[00:01] <Zorix> what do you guys suggest i use for a low power mini-itx box that would work for browsing and chatting?
[00:11] <AzizLight> hi everybody
[00:11] <AzizLight> is it normal that I can't make konsole/yakuake transparent in gnome (ubuntu 8.04)?
[00:12] <Daisuke_Ido> since you're using gnome, probably
[00:12] <Daisuke_Ido> i believe its transparency depends on kwin
[00:12] <AzizLight> what's kwin? :S
[00:14] <Jucato> if you are using Yakuake 2.8.x (KDE 3 version) then yes, that's a limitation
[00:14] <Jucato> KWin is the KDE Window Manager
[00:15] <AzizLight> Jucato: I saw a yakuake-kde4.0 (or something like that) package, if I use that instead I will be able to use transparency?
[00:16] <Jucato> let me double check
[00:17] <Jucato> AzizLight: what exact version of Yakuake are you using? (I can't say much for Konsole)
[00:18] <AzizLight> Jucato: yakuake 2.8.1-1ubuntu2
[00:19] <Jucato> hm... I thought that was fixed.. but you could try installing yakuake-kde4 (make sure it's version 2.9.x)
[00:20]  * Jucato fails as a yakuake rep :(
[00:21] <AzizLight> Jucato: I wont install yakuake-kde4 it has too much dependencies, it's not worth it just to activate tranparency
[00:21] <AzizLight> 7
[00:21] <AzizLight> over 78MB of dependencie
[00:22] <Jucato> hm.. ok...
[00:23] <AzizLight> anyway thanks for the help
[00:24] <aktrapper> how do I get kbuntu to remmber  desktop setups from one boot to another
[00:25] <HNSZ> kitche:Heh
[00:25] <HNSZ> I try to install kubuntu on my laptop bat after i've selected the language the display just showes horizantal bars.
[00:30] <kitche> HNSZ: I m not sure since I don't know kubuntu or any linux like I used to that much but to me it sounds a bit of a bad cd
[00:33] <favro> HNSZ: did you do the md5 check on the cd?
[00:34] <peace> HNSZ just check if that cd has errors.instead of choosing to install kubuntu
[00:34] <peace> it will take a while..5-10min but its certain
[00:35] <user__> user
[00:38] <HNSZ> Actually the md5 sum does not match
[00:38] <HNSZ> Hope nothing malicious
[00:38] <favro> that'll make it hard to boot...
[00:39] <jose__> hi
[00:39] <favro> burn the dsk slowly
[00:39] <favro> s/dsk/disk/
[00:40] <HNSZ> favro: No the .iso is allready damaged/
[00:40] <favro> ohh
[00:40] <kitche> HNSZ: somtimes that means it didn't do a full download
[00:41] <HNSZ> I think it's googel chrome. On other download got stuck
[00:42] <HNSZ> I'm getting it with good ole firefox now.
[00:43] <kitche> HNSZ: for exapmple ever seen a download go negative :)
[00:43] <HNSZ> For a minute I was worried my brand new laptop couldnt run linux(Imagine hwo I felt.)
[00:44] <HNSZ> kitche: I never have bad downloads but I guess one time is the first
[00:45] <HNSZ> Actually with the md5 check my first tendency was that the checker just was broken :p
[01:07]  * SkEmO goes to (non of your business), and bbl :P
[01:09] <casa> hola
[01:16] <sourcemaker> can I cancel and restart the distribution upgrade dialog? there are 2 hours remaining for downloading all the packages...
[01:16] <mkrahmeh> i think you can..not sure actually
[01:17] <mkrahmeh> at least it wont do you any harm
[01:17] <mkrahmeh> packages are downloaded b4 the installation takes place
[01:18] <Jared> hello
[01:19] <Jared> what is some software, tools and other cool stuff you guys use on gnome/kde?
[01:21] <mkrahmeh> i just got me the kchmviewer
[01:21] <mkrahmeh> for viewing chm files
[01:22] <mkrahmeh> its awesome
[01:22] <Jared> chm? what is that file extension?
[01:23] <kitche> Jared: it's a Windows Help file pretty much some ebooks use that format
[01:23] <Jucato> Jared: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Compiled_HTML_Help
[01:23] <Jared> oh
[01:23] <Jared> I see
[01:24] <Jared> ever used gimpshop?
[01:24] <Jared> I dont notice much of a difference from gimp and gimpshop
[01:24] <Jared> they are almost the same
[01:24] <Jared> unless there is something I am missing
[01:25] <Jucato> "GIMPshop is a modification of the free/open source GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP), intended to replicate the feel of Adobe Photoshop. Its primary purpose is to make users of Photoshop feel comfortable using GIMP."
[01:25] <Jared> yeah, I read that
[01:26] <Jared> but I still see no difference
[01:26] <kitche> Jared: it's just makes users of photoshop able to use gimp easier
[01:26] <Jared> ok
[01:26] <Jared> what is different about it though?
[01:26] <kitche> the "feel"
[01:27] <Jared> oh
[01:27] <Jucato> "intended to replicate the feel of Adobe Photoshop"
[01:27] <Jared> I see
[01:27] <mkrahmeh> can gimpshop fully replace the photoshop ?
[01:27] <mkrahmeh> you know
[01:27] <mkrahmeh> functionality and so...
[01:27] <mkrahmeh> ??
[01:28] <kitche> well gimp would be better for my college work I used gimp all the time
[01:28] <Jared> I have been messing with it but I dont notice any difference from gimp and gimpshop, I dont noice a difference in the GUI but I know, I like photoshop alot better
[01:28] <Jucato> http://gimp.org/screenshots/alternative-2-6-ui-layout-example-one.jpg vs http://www.softpedia.com/screenshots/Gimpshop_1.png
[01:29] <Jucato> (the GIMP has multiple windows for each "panel". GIMPshop, like Photoshop, has multiple panel windows inside a single window)
[01:32] <mkrahmeh> doesnt gimp have the feature to switch to single windows multiple panels..like gimpshop ??
[01:32] <mkrahmeh> its not an intrinsic difference though..
[01:32] <mkrahmeh> there must be something else
[01:32] <mkrahmeh> right ?
[01:40] <jose> hi
[01:40] <jose> wich is the command for get out of the virtualbox
[01:41] <kitche> ou mean unlock the mouse it's the right ctrl key
[01:41] <jose> do you speal spanish?
[01:42] <joy> i'm looking form someone i can chat to
[01:42] <jose> ok
[01:42] <jose> what is key?
[01:42] <kitche> jose: the right ctrl key
[01:42] <jose> ok
[01:42] <jose> thanks
[01:50] <ubuntu> hi anyone = )   has anyone found that KDE4 reads the size of your HD wrong?, says I have 27.7 GiB free when my HD is 80 gig? wierd huh!, I also have a 40 gig installed as a primary slave, could that be confuseing my system, it is older & not meant for 2 drives = )  any thoughts appreciated!
[02:01] <dope> how do i get my harddrive to mount everytime i boot up without having to type in a password
[02:07] <VStyDS> Hola
[02:08] <VStyDS> hey tengo una pregunta
[02:08] <VStyDS> como configuro para tener un cubo en el compiz fusion?
[02:33]  * SkEmO has returned
[02:49] <illmortal> Hey guys, is there any reason why K3b cannot burn MP3s? It's askin me to convert them to wav format...
[02:50] <illmortal> Anyone?
[02:51] <NickPresta> illmortal, we're here. I'm doing some Google'ing :)
[02:51] <illmortal> same here lol. Looks like I might need to use a different cd burning program though, not sure yet.
[02:52] <illmortal> i think i need to download/install k3b-mp3
[02:52] <NickPresta> illmortal, yeah, that appears to be the package you want
[02:53] <illmortal> checkin adept manager.
[02:53] <NickPresta> make sure you also have: libk3b2-extracodecs
[02:53] <bazhang> !info lame
[02:57] <illmortal> ok
[02:57] <illmortal> checkin now.
[02:59] <illmortal> libk3b2-extracodecs was the actual fix :D
[02:59] <illmortal> thanks, bro
[02:59] <illmortal> brb.
[03:07] <jose> hi
[03:07] <Kage_Jittai> hi
[03:13] <yousef> can someone tell me how i can remove/disable startup processes (ie hp-systray)
[03:15] <yousef> hello?
[03:15] <pgib> hi
[03:16] <yousef> hey
[03:16] <yousef> do u know how to remove startup processes?
[03:17] <pgib> yes
[03:17] <yousef> cause i have the hp-toolbox running in my tray on boot
[03:17] <yousef> i dont want it to
[03:17] <pgib> well
[03:18] <pgib> startup scripts work by adding/removing symbolic links in the /etc/rd.d/ directory
[03:18] <pgib> there is a tool called update-rc.d to help you manage it though
[03:18] <yousef> i have to install it
[03:18] <pgib> update-rc.d -f your_service remove
[03:18] <pgib> you have to install what?
[03:18] <yousef> update-rc.d?
[03:18] <pgib> I mean /etc/rc.d/
[03:19] <pgib> is a directory with a bunch of symbolic links to programs that are executed on startup
[03:19] <pgib> there is a program, on your computer, called update-rc.d
[03:19] <pgib> you can do: update-rc.d -f postgresql remove
[03:19] <pgib> for example, that will remove postgresql from startup
[03:20] <yousef> i see
[03:20] <yousef> 1 problem is that i dont even know the name of the process
[03:20] <pgib> ??
[03:20] <yousef> its not obvious like hp-systray
[03:20] <pgib> oh...
[03:20] <Guest27196> no1peacedragon
[03:20] <pgib> you are talking about an X application
[03:21] <yousef> its the hp-toolbox for printers
[03:21] <pgib> I thought you meant startup processes, like for the actual operating system
[03:21] <yousef> it runs the hp device manager
[03:21] <yousef> no
[03:21] <yousef> x app
[03:22] <pgib> you said it is a system-tray utility
[03:22] <pgib> I thought
[03:22] <yousef> well it is in my system tray
[03:22] <yousef> little hp icon
[03:22] <pgib> yes
[03:22] <pgib> so it is an X application
[03:22] <yousef> ya
[03:23] <pgib> therefore, it probably is autostarted by kde
[03:23] <yousef> you know how i can diasble
[03:23] <pgib> check in ~/.kde/Autostart/
[03:23] <pgib> if you see it in there then remove it
[03:23] <pgib> and you might have a ~/.kde4/Autostart if you are using KDE4
[03:24] <yousef> theres only 1 file in there
[03:24] <yousef> .directory
[03:24] <pgib> ok
[03:24] <pgib> well that is odd
[03:25] <yousef> lol
[03:25] <yousef> let me try root account maybe
[03:25] <pgib> no
[03:25] <pgib> it will be in your users if anywhere
[03:26] <Agent_bob> so is ktorrretn broken ?
[03:26] <yousef> ok, well its not there
[03:26] <yousef> thx anyway
[03:26] <pgib> well I don't know what to tell you then
[03:27] <yousef> lol
[03:27] <yousef> what disto u use?
[03:27] <pgib> well I searched google
[03:27] <pgib> and guess what it tells you
[03:27] <No1PeaceDragon> does anyone know how to get a public key that seems to be missing?
[03:27] <yousef> what?
[03:28] <pgib> it should be in /etc/xdg/autostart/
[03:28] <pgib> those are run when your display manager starts
[03:28] <pgib> (the place where you login before kde starts)
[03:28] <yousef> lol ya its there
[03:28] <Agent_bob> so is ktorrretn broken ?   all versions ?
[03:29] <pgib> dunno.. ask #kde maybe?
[03:29] <yousef> i have to delete it?
[03:29] <nonewmsgs> Agent_bob: ktorrent is what i always use?
[03:29] <pgib> what is "broken" with it
[03:29] <yousef> ktorrent works
[03:29] <pgib> yousef: yes - it is just a symbolic-link (a shortcup in windows)
[03:29] <pgib> *shortcut
[03:29] <yousef> thx
[03:30] <cvcxv> ,,, tido ingles
[03:31] <nonewmsgs> sometimes kmail gives me my new mail and sometimes it says i have no new messages despite me having them
[03:31] <Agent_bob> nonewmsgs i was just told that all versions of ktorrent are broken,  "<dudeman> its broken on many private trackers that use ratio systems<Agent_bob> dudeman maybe i should have said  what version<dudeman> Agent_bob, all including the latest"
[03:32] <Agent_bob> i figured the guy was probably a nut, being on #debian.
[03:32] <nonewmsgs> so i should use azaurus
[03:33] <No1PeaceDragon> does anyone know why synaptic package manager seems to be missing public keys when updating?
[03:34]  * mr---t- waves to Agent_bob
[03:34] <Agent_bob> mister tee
[03:34] <mr---t-> only when I'm on the play box
[03:35] <Generic6552> O~kay, I installed kubuntu-desktop the other day via SPM (Synaptic) to try out Kubuntu... turns out, it's just not for me.  How do I remove Kubuntu from Ubuntu?
[03:35] <nonewmsgs> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[03:35] <Agent_bob> no
[03:35] <favro> !puregnome > Generic6552
[03:36] <Agent_bob> !puregnome
[03:36] <Agent_bob> yeah that.
[03:36] <Generic6552> Ah, thanks, investigating...
[03:36] <Agent_bob> favro didn't mean to doubble you.
[03:36] <nonewmsgs> why doesnt mine work?
[03:36] <favro> ii wwaassnn''tt ooffffeennddeedd
[03:36] <Generic6552> Bah, that's fine, I'm just appreciative of the help.
[03:37] <Agent_bob> nonewmsgs because it only removes the meta package
[03:37] <nonewmsgs> !meta-package
[03:37] <Agent_bob> favro :)))
[03:37] <nonewmsgs> thanks
[03:37] <Agent_bob> welcome.
[03:38] <Agent_bob> you can install *buntu-desktop then remove *buntu-desktop   and have gnome,kde,xfce4,others???   desktops still installed.
[03:39] <favro> removing kubuntu-desktop is like throwing out the box the toys come - afterwards the toys are still there
[03:39] <Agent_bob> actually for adding a DE i prefer the DE meta package rather than the *buntu-desktop
[03:40] <Agent_bob> favro yep.
[03:40] <Agent_bob> and well said.
[03:40] <Agent_bob> DE meta packages like  "gnome"  "kde"  and so forth.
[03:40] <No1PeaceDragon> I like the box the toys come in makes it worth more
[03:41] <Agent_bob> !info gnome
[03:41] <c_minus_minus> I am really getting frustrated here with VLC.  Can anyone help me? I have this asx file from a site that I need to grab.  I go to File > Wizard and go through the steps.  I skip the "Transcode Audo/Video" step and use the ASF wrapper.  However, when I click okay, no transcoding takes place.  The timer stays at 0:00:00.  Why is this? Please help!
[03:42] <nonewmsgs> what is the best way to reinstall windows without hurting *buntu? just a standard install for win and then reinstall grub?
[03:42] <c_minus_minus> nonewmsgs: What version of Windows?  XP, it's possible.  Vista, I've tried and failed.
[03:42] <nonewmsgs> xp
[03:42] <nonewmsgs> or 2k
[03:43] <Agent_bob> nonewmsgs can't be done.    if you install windows it will install it's mbr.   so you'll have to reinstall grub.
[03:43] <Agent_bob> if that ^ is considered hurting linux
[03:43] <nonewmsgs> so use the alt cd and just go to install grub and magic happens?
[03:43] <Agent_bob> yep.
[03:43] <nonewmsgs> good deal.  thanks Agent_bob
[03:44] <Agent_bob> nonewmsgs assuming you don't hose the linux partition
[03:44] <Agent_bob> and also assuming you use partitions.
[03:44] <nonewmsgs> actually i have 4 sepearte hard drives
[03:44] <Daisuke_Ido> Agent_bob: you're the only psycho that doesn't :)
[03:44] <Agent_bob> installing windows on hda will be a snap
[03:44] <nonewmsgs> but i do have a /swap so i guess i do have partitions
[03:45] <Agent_bob> err hda1   sorry. :)
[03:45] <Agent_bob> Daisuke_Ido probably not.   seeing i learned it from another "idiot" :)
[03:45] <No1PeaceDragon> can anyone help me get rid of this error message? "'W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783"
[03:46] <Daisuke_Ido> Agent_bob: i never said idiot :)
[03:46] <Agent_bob> nonewmsgs most people have at least a primary partition on each hdd   not i.
[03:46] <Daisuke_Ido> just psycho.  it's a compliment
[03:46] <c_minus_minus> Anyone know how to grab an asx stream in VLC?  It doesn't work for me!
[03:46] <Agent_bob> Daisuke_Ido no that's was my word.  you said psyco.
[03:46] <Agent_bob> h
[03:47] <Agent_bob> Daisuke_Ido idiot is not actually an insult either.  it depends on what is meant by it
[03:49] <Agent_bob> !gpg-error
[03:50] <nonewmsgs> i have desktop sharing enabled in k and gnome, and in gnome it works fine, but k it won't work.  i even tried vncviewer <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:52] <No1PeaceDragon> If I get rid of synaptic package manager and then re-install it, will that help, and if yes will I lose the programs I installed with synaptic?
[03:53] <c_minus_minus> Anyone know how to grab an asx stream in VLC?  It doesn't work for me!
[03:53] <Agent_bob> not likely No1PeaceDragon that's not how things work.
[03:53] <No1PeaceDragon> i kinda figured that but I at a total loss
[03:54] <Agent_bob> No1PeaceDragon i'm not sure why you aren't able to get the gpg key automaticly,  but try getting it manually and putting it in /var/lib/apt/lists   then update.
[03:55] <Agent_bob> oh and it's name will have to reflect the repo address
[03:56] <Agent_bob> example:   http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_Release.gpg
[03:56] <Agent_bob> and yes that's debian not ubuntu...
[03:56] <No1PeaceDragon> ok thx was about to ask about repo address
[03:57] <Agent_bob> No1PeaceDragon ls the dir for other examples.
[03:57] <Agent_bob> that's lowercase L S
[03:58] <No1PeaceDragon> Agent bob I gonna give this a try and thank you for the help
[03:58] <Agent_bob> luck with it.
[04:00] <c_minus_minus> Anyone with VLC?
[04:06] <Generic6552> Well guys, thanks again for the help, especially the link --- There's plenty more for me to check out with it.  Until later, though I'm sure you'll understand if I say 'hopefully not!' ; ) , ciao!
[04:08] <Agent_bob> c_minus_minus sure i use vlc.  is this a poll?     and no i don't know anything about your asx issue.
[04:12] <benbloom> I need help adding a SMB printer. I've installed the appropriate driver but the KDE "add printer wizard" still doesn't show it PLEASE HELP!
[04:15] <NickPresta> When viewing a `traceroute` what do the * * * lines mean
[04:16] <john__> I'm looking for help with Intrepid beta livecd
[04:16] <NickPresta> !intrepid | john__
[04:17] <john__> I can't get it to even boot.
[04:17] <NickPresta> john__, get help in #ubuntu+1
[04:17] <john__> thanks.
[04:17] <benbloom> I need help adding a SMB printer. I've installed the appropriate driver but the KDE "add printer wizard" still doesn't show it PLEASE HELP!
[04:18] <NickPresta> benbloom, what type of printer?
[04:19] <benbloom> it's an epson photo rx
[04:19] <benbloom> running kubuntu 8.04
[04:19] <benbloom> sorry rx595
[04:19]  * benbloom slaps the monkey who keeps turning off his numlock
[04:24] <NickPresta> benbloom, so you tried to add a printer from system-settings/kcontrol and you don't see the "Add Printer" button or you press the button but nothing comes up?
[04:25] <bilicki> I just did a clean install of 8.10... why do most applications still use KDE 3.5 ?
[04:25] <NickPresta> bilicki, support for 8.10 in #ubuntu+1
[04:28] <ubuntu> i have just finished installing windows on partition sda1, but now i need to reinstall the grub boot loader...
[04:29] <NickPresta> !restoregrub
[04:29] <NickPresta> !grub > ubuntu
[04:29] <benbloom> NickPresta, I can run through the entire installation process but when It shows me the list of printers to chose from the RX595 isn;t there
[04:29] <NickPresta> benbloom, which drivers did you install?
[04:30] <benbloom> Gutenprint 5.2
[04:30] <NickPresta> benbloom, you should be able to select RX950
[04:30] <benbloom> NickPresta: It show's listings for RX510 and RX600 but neither work
[04:31] <ubuntu> when i get into grub.. find /boot/grub/stage1 says error 15: File not found
[04:31] <benbloom> NickPresta: 950? as opposed to 595? or is that a typeo
[04:31] <dr_willis> try just 'find stage1'  ?
[04:32] <NickPresta> benbloom, 590, my mistake :)
[04:33] <benbloom> not showing 590 that's what I used on my Ubuntu laptop
[04:33] <NickPresta> benbloom, hmm. Strange. Have you tried the official drivers from here (http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/spc/DL1.do)?
[04:34] <NickPresta> benbloom, Check out this topic, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=583000
[04:34] <zurn>  prefered ubuntu for p2.8m dell laptop (kubuntu / xubuntu / ubuntu) ?
[04:34] <NickPresta> zurn, Pentium 2, 800 Mhz?
[04:34] <zurn> pentium 4 mobile 2.8ghz
[04:35] <NickPresta> zurn, oh heh. Any is fine. The requirements for KDE/XFCE and Gnome are well below a P4, 2.8. How much RAM?
[04:35] <benbloom> for the first link I get "description The requested resource (/lx-bin2/linux_e/spc/DL1.do)) is not available."
[04:35] <NickPresta> benbloom, really? The site works fine for me: http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/spc/DL1.do
[04:36] <benbloom> so on that forum (as is my experience) "found that the Epson Stylus Photo RX590 driver is part of Gutenprint 5.0.1. I manually downloaded, compiled and installed it. There may be an easier way, but for reference, this is how I did it."...
[04:36] <zurn> 1.25gb
[04:36] <NickPresta> zurn, you're more than fine for any
[04:36] <benbloom> I'm running a more uptodate version of Gutenprint which is now lacking the RX590 Driver
[04:36] <NickPresta> benbloom, I really don
[04:36] <zurn> i know, ive got ubuntu on it, broke the audio, was going to reinstall and was going to get recommendations
[04:37] <NickPresta> benbloom, I really don't know of another alternative as I dont have that printer. =\ perhaps try making a topic on the forums and someone with KDE can help
[04:37] <NickPresta> benbloom, you could always compile the older version if you know it works
[04:38] <zurn> nickpresta - i had tried xubuntu on an old p3 dell laptop, had a hell of a time getting the fan hardware working; tried kubuntu w/ kde 4.0.1 beta (or was it 4.1 beta, i forget) and it just felt broken, i couldnt make heads of tales of kde after using gnome and xfce
[04:38] <benbloom> is there a better way to get KDE to recognize the printer? besides using the wizard frontend?
[04:39] <benbloom> the stupid package reader wont let me install an older version so I'd have to do it manually (not knowledgable enough)
[04:39] <dr_willis> its the cups printing system thats not recoginizing the printer  - most likely
[04:39] <dr_willis> its possible a newer cups release will have the proper drivers.
[04:39] <benbloom> hmmm dr_willis. that's an interesting thought
[04:39] <dr_willis> Or theres a alternative.
[04:40] <dr_willis> I noticed some getting renamed  for my printers.
[04:40] <dr_willis> check cups.org  There may be some info on why/what has changed.  or if theres an alternativ4e.
[04:41] <dr_willis> I just discovered last wek that my Canon Printer is finally supported. :)
[04:41] <benbloom> should I do a system reboot after installing the new gutenprint? I logged out and back in
[04:42] <dr_willis> I wouldent think a reboot, or logout would be needed
[04:42] <NickPresta> benbloom, restart cups
[04:42] <dr_willis> restarting cups - might help. but i dont even see why that would be needed
[04:42] <benbloom> are the CUPS updates not automatically included in Kubuntu?
[04:43] <benbloom> what's the command to restart cups?
[04:44] <dr_willis> kubuntu like ubuntu does updates every 6 months with a new release.
[04:44] <NickPresta> benbloom, /etc/init.d/cups restart
[04:44] <dr_willis> unless theres security issues, then they have updates for those packages
[04:45] <benbloom>  /etc/init.d/cupsys?
[04:45] <NickPresta> benbloom, To be honest, I'm not on *buntu right now but yeah, cupsys should be fine
[04:46] <XUBUNTU> Salam Alekoum
[04:46] <NickPresta> English only, XUBUNTU
[04:46] <XUBUNTU> french connection
[04:46] <XUBUNTU> je parle que français
[04:47] <NickPresta> !fr | XUBUNTU
[04:47] <XUBUNTU> merci et bonne continuation sur linux . bonne soirée
[04:48] <benbloom> no luck! darn! I'm going to try to update cups0
[04:49] <Sixzero> Hey guys.  I'm having trouble getting samba to see my shared printer with a vista box.  I can see all my vista shared folders, but the printer ain't showing up.  Anyone got a clue whats up?
[04:50] <dr_willis> I think vista has some options to allow 'guest'  access to printers.. You may want to enable that.
[04:50] <NickPresta> yeah. Enable a guest account, share the printer, try shortening the printer name to less than 8 characters
[04:50] <dr_willis> My linux machines can see/print to my vista shared printers.. (i think, been a while since i tried it)
[04:51] <dr_willis> I always have the same user/passwords on my windows & liniux machines :) that seems to help a lot at times
[04:51] <Sixzero> guest access you say?  i'll try it real quick, brb
[04:55] <frybye>  Hi - when I try to run skype I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/53643/ any tips? (I am a relative- newbie)
[04:57] <dr_willis> !skype
[04:57] <mr---t-> good nite all
[04:57] <dr_willis> Perhaps its a common issue mentioned at the wiki guide.
[04:58] <Sixzero> dr_willis: I dunno what I did because I couldn't find guest accounts in the permissions section, but somehow its working now.  thanks.
[04:58] <dr_willis> Sixzero,  thats the 'normal' way windows works.. :) you do things.. and hope it eventually works
[04:59] <dr_willis> Bummer. My Spore Gamejust crashed.. and i dont rember the last time i saved...
[04:59] <dr_willis> ya would think that EVERY game would have an autosave function in this day and age
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> dr_willis: nah, if the game crashes and you don't save, you lose your install.  you only get three shots.  it's just EA's way of saying "remember to save!  OR ELSE."
[05:02] <dr_willis> Yep.
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> all deserved kidding aside, i would like to check the game out
[05:03] <dr_willis> But ive not hit the '3' install issue.. and i imagine ea will remove that limit in a few months.
[05:03] <dr_willis> Its a neat game. it does run on 'lower end' systems
[05:03] <dr_willis> but its not got a lot of depth.
[05:04] <dr_willis> Maxis is really stuck in its 'the sims - casual time waster-gaming' mentality. :)   I rember when Simcity was actually 'challenging'
[05:04] <Daisuke_Ido> casual games are the big thing for pc right now
[05:05] <Daisuke_Ido> a friend of mine just got offered a job with a company that does games for facebook, of all places
[05:07] <Daisuke_Ido> went in for the group interview, everyone there was formerly employed by lucasarts, except for one other guy
[05:07] <Daisuke_Ido> lead designer on black & white 2 >_<
[05:15] <dr_willis> that was a rather 'over hyped' game. :) but most of them are these days
[05:15] <dr_willis> 'brag about a feature, thats not used muchin the game' Yea.
[05:16] <dr_willis> With spore - its all about the 'designer aspect' that has very little influence on the game.. its just electronic play-doh. :)
[05:25] <trigg3r> hey everyone, does anyone know where i can get sound card drivers for my hp pavillion dv5218nr? all i can find is that it has altec lansing speakers!
[05:26] <dr_willis> trigg3r,  you need to determine what chipset the  sound card is using.
[05:27] <trigg3r> dr_willis: i have been looking on google forever!!  Would it say it somewhere on my computer... Sorry kind of a noob with kubuntu
[05:27] <dr_willis> lspci command.
[05:28] <dr_willis> or check the specs/website/company site
[05:29] <trigg3r> dr_willis: this is the only specs i can find on it -  http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&docname=c00699743
[05:30] <trigg3r> the ispci command, do i have to put sudo before that?  Sorry Man!!  :)
[05:31] <dr_willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=852535
[05:31] <dr_willis> and its LSPCI
[05:31] <dr_willis> and No you dont need a sudo
[05:32] <dr_willis> you sure its not just a 'volume set to low/muted' issue?  Im not finding anyone else withsoundissues on that laptop
[05:34] <trigg3r> dr_willis: i'm almost positive... when i hover the speaker on the kicker it says volume at 100%
[05:35] <dr_willis> Intel Chipset Installation Utility for ICH7  http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareList?os=228&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=3192866&lang=en#
[05:35] <trigg3r> dr_willis: when i ran that command, it said that the audio device is Intel Corporation 82801G
[05:35] <dr_willis> trigg3r,  that dos4ent prove it. :)
[05:36] <dr_willis> i would run the alsamixer command from a terminal, and twiddle with the sliders while its playing somthing also.
[05:36] <trigg3r> okay, how do i check it lol
[05:36] <dr_willis> run the media player from a terminal also to look for error messages
[05:36] <dr_willis> also - do you rember sound when using the live cd?
[05:37] <trigg3r> dr_willis: no sound when using the live cd
[05:39] <dr_willis> its possible it has some slightly newer/different chipset  - thats alsa not liking.  - If you are feeling lucky - you may want to try some other disrtos livd cd's and perhaps the beta releases of the next ubuntu rerelease
[05:39] <fgarceseduardo> hello, i'm about to install kubuntu 8,04 ao my aspire one
[05:40] <trigg3r> dr_willis: alright, i think that i have a few things to try, thank you!
[05:40] <dr_willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=535001  has some info trigg3r  but its a little old.
[05:40] <fgarceseduardo> but, do you recomend me to use wubi?
[05:40] <dr_willis> googling for  Intel Corporation 82801G+ubuntu came up with a lot of hits
[05:40] <dr_willis> i do NOT recomend wubi at all
[05:40] <dr_willis> :)
[05:40] <fgarceseduardo> so, how should i install it?
[05:40] <dr_willis> id much rather run ubuntu inside irtualbox, or do a normal full install
[05:41] <fgarceseduardo> because i have winshit here
[05:41] <dr_willis> install it  normally. :) it can resize the windows install .
[05:41] <fgarceseduardo> the problem is the cd reader
[05:41] <dr_willis> Or if you are  paranoid. use virtualbox.
[05:41] <fgarceseduardo> and i don't know how to create a live usb from win
[05:42] <fgarceseduardo> i know how to do it for fedora, but not for uxUBUNTU
[05:42] <dr_willis> fgarceseduardo,  use that 'unetbootin' tool - it can make a bootable thumbdrive for you
[05:42] <fgarceseduardo> and, I'm not so paranoid
[05:42] <fgarceseduardo> and, what's that?
[05:43] <dr_willis> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[05:43] <fgarceseduardo> ok
[05:43] <dr_willis> It makes bootable usb thumbdrives
[05:43] <dr_willis> :)
[05:43] <fgarceseduardo> mmm
[05:43] <fgarceseduardo> ok, i'm canceling wubi right now
[05:43] <dr_willis> saves me burning ubuntu cds
[05:44] <fgarceseduardo> jijijijiji
[05:44] <fgarceseduardo> this irc channels are so good
[05:52] <trigg3r> dr_willis: i can't believe it, it WAS a mute issue!!! LOL
[05:52] <dr_willis> trigg3r,  - wowsers :)
[06:14] <frybye> anybody got vlc vers. 9.3 to work with iptv??
[06:47] <gsalazar> can someone help to restore/fix a flash memory USB?
[07:23] <jbbarnes> I'm running 7.10, which has Firefox <IP_ADDRESS>. How can I get 3.0? apt-get and synaptic only offer <IP_ADDRESS> and a beta 3.0.
[07:23] <jbbarnes> I don't see an option for stable 3.0
[07:24] <Agent_bob> !ff3
[07:24] <jbbarnes> So do I have to modify my sources.list file?
[07:25] <dr_willis> depending on the releae of ubuntu you got.. FF3 may or may not be in any repos for it.
[07:25] <dr_willis> its  possible theres some extra repo with newer for 7.10 -
[07:26] <Agent_bob> have to ?   no.    can, yes.    should....  pfft    not by my openion.
[07:26] <jbbarnes> I've been told that if you have Debian, you can always get upgraded to the latest of everything. True? Is that the dist-upgrade option?
[07:26] <jbbarnes> Does it work with kubuntu?
[07:26] <moj0rising> yes
[07:26] <moj0rising> you can upgrade that way.
[07:27] <moj0rising> just be careful
[07:27] <dr_willis> every 6 mo theres a new ubuntu release.. and dist-upgrade should upgrade you to the latest release
[07:27] <moj0rising> as sometimes things can break after the upgrade
[07:27] <Agent_bob> ubuntu != debian
[07:27] <jbbarnes> so can I issue a command that will basically bring everything up to 8.04 level?
[07:27] <dr_willis> jbbarnes,  yep.
[07:27] <dr_willis> i would backup anything imporntant first, however.
[07:27] <moj0rising> sudo apt-get update
[07:27] <jbbarnes> apt-get dist-upgrad will do it, huh? Great.
[07:27] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[07:27] <moj0rising> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:28] <jbbarnes> I think I'll save off my partion first! ;-) But that sounds like fun to try.
[07:28] <Agent_bob> dr_willis no sources.list change for fiesty ?     i thought they built a script for that...
[07:28] <dr_willis> I never upgrade that way. I always do clean isntalls..
[07:28] <moj0rising> good idea. you can even make an image with something like clonezilla (clonezilla.org).
[07:28] <dr_willis> so no idea Agent_bob
[07:29] <jbbarnes> I'll look up clonezilla, moj0rising.
[07:30] <moj0rising> it's a good tool if you like the idea of having a "bare metal" backup.
[07:33] <Agent_bob> jbbarnes the page say. System -> Administration -> Update Manager
[07:34] <Agent_bob> yeah they built a script to "automate" the process.
[07:35] <Agent_bob> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[07:35] <stdin> one doesn't need to edit their sources.list any more, we don't even have a script for it any more
[07:36] <stdin> we use some funky thing which will work out the new default settings/applications and remove obsolete packages (if you agree to do so)
[07:36] <Agent_bob> stdin so how is the sources.list changed now ?
[07:37] <stdin> basically it looks in a specific place on the archive site for a set of instructions and runs those, which will then regenerate the sources.list when it's safe to do so
[07:37] <crazy_bus> is there anyway to record the video been received by skype, ekigia, kopote or does one of those support the feature?
[07:37] <stdin> (so you'll be on release+1 before it changes your sources to release+1)
[07:38] <Agent_bob> and that is either a script or possably a compiled application,  but my money is on a "python" or possably "perl" script.
[07:38] <stdin> python, yeah :p
[07:39] <Agent_bob> so that would fail on my system that has no python then.
[07:40] <stdin> it wouldn't even download the instructons if you didn't have python. python is a base component now, so it's assumed you have it
[07:40] <stdin> and if you don't, you're smart enough to upgrade the "old fashioned way" ;)
[07:41] <Agent_bob> prolly
[07:41] <Agent_bob> !info update-manager-core
[07:41] <Agent_bob> there is what is it ^
[07:41] <stdin> that's the guts of it, yeah
[07:43] <Agent_bob> pfft     sudo do-release-upgrade     heh.  who thinks up these command names...  ?
[07:44] <stdin> well, it does exactly what it says :p
[07:45] <dr_willis> sudo do-release-upgrade  --and-dont-break-anything --please-please-oh-please
[07:45] <Agent_bob> :)))
[07:45] <Agent_bob>     2. Install the new "update-manager-core" package - dependencies include
[07:45] <Agent_bob>        python-apt, python-gnupginterface and python2.4-apt.
[07:46] <Agent_bob> which in turn depend on several other "python" packages
[07:46] <stdin> yeah, it's written in python
[07:49] <Agent_bob> errr what part of "terminal window"  doesn't sound like it should be on a server system ???   http://debian.pastebin.us/4454   <<< exert from the dapper server to hardy upgrade instructions.
[07:50] <stdin> Agent_bob: iirc, some part of the desktop upgrade instructions says something like "if you want to upgrade from command line, follow the server upgrade instructions" (paraphrase), so it helps to be explicit in instructions
[07:50] <Agent_bob> also is the "alternate installation CD" a GUI "live CD" ?
[07:51] <stdin> the alternate CD is a text install (same as the debian installer)
[07:51] <Agent_bob> i'm wondering why alt+f2 would bring up a run dialog on a text mode installer ???
[07:51] <stdin> but it installs a GUI system
[07:52] <stdin> Agent_bob: that's not from booting the installer, that's just with the CD inserted in a running system
[07:52] <Agent_bob> http://debian.pastebin.us/4455
[07:52] <stdin> the alternate CD has an apt repository on it
[07:52] <stdin> yeah, it doesn't say "boot from the cd then..."
[07:52] <Agent_bob> ok i can see that.
[07:53] <stdin> though, I think it does need to be more explicit still
[07:53] <stdin> as some people have though that
[07:53] <Agent_bob> still why would a server have a gui ?
[07:53] <dr_willis> so the sysadmin can watch videos :)
[07:53] <Agent_bob> those instructions are for "dapper server upgrade"
[07:53] <dr_willis> and play games
[07:53] <stdin> it doesn't say from a server, that's the Kubuntu upgrade instructions ;)
[07:55] <Agent_bob> it's not "kubuntu" specific
[07:56] <stdin> Agent_bob: you mean the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades page?
[07:56] <Agent_bob> i'll accept that they inteneded to instruct desktop users  errrr let me check.
[07:56] <n3m0> anyone know how to change the backend dragonplayer uses i want to change from xine to gstreamer?
[07:57] <Agent_bob> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades stdin
[07:57] <stdin> yeah the "Upgrading Using the Alternate CD/DVD" part doesn't seem separate the server and GUI instructions
[07:57] <surgy> hello
[07:57] <Agent_bob> right.  that's what i was intimating
[07:57] <surgy> im looking for a good pinwheel screen saver for kubuntu, anyone know of one?
[07:58] <surgy> yes i like to distort my perception of depth
[07:58] <stdin> n3m0: system settings -> audio -> backend, it's a global settings it seems
[07:58] <n3m0> stdin: ill check it ty
[07:59] <stdin> Agent_bob: I'm not sure the alternate cd has a server upgrade tool, only a GUI one (I don't have one on hand to check)
[08:00] <stdin> but it does have a normal apt repository, so it should be possible I guess
[08:00] <Agent_bob> why are all "newer" crt's  so over backlit ?
[08:00] <Agent_bob> stdin well that would explain it.
[08:01] <stdin> I'll have a look into it sometime, there's probably a way, but I'm not sure
[08:02] <Agent_bob> there seems to be no way to make the black background any darker than dark gray.    they don't even have bright/contrast adjustments anymore.
[08:03] <Agent_bob> i'd like for a blank screen to be totally dark.   blank screen at night time lights the entire house up.
[08:05] <surgy> Agent_bob: lol, you could rig a toggle switch up...... lol and flip the power off and on to the crt.... lol, they respond quick right? so it should pop right back every time!
[08:06] <Agent_bob> surgy set bios to kill the monitor after 1 second of inactivity
[08:06] <Agent_bob> ;/
[08:07] <surgy> lol
[08:07] <Agent_bob> i found some more menus on this monitor,  maybe i am going to be able to tone it down some...
[08:07] <surgy> night
[08:09] <Agent_bob> well i'll stop complaining about newer crt's and go back to complaining about one of them...  i did manage to get black background out of that one.
[08:10]  * Agent_bob never has learned to like the new fangled push button crap anyway.     these whipper snappers now days don't know how to build anything with knobs on it.
[08:12] <Agent_bob> you know, some of the people in #debian called me everything but a white boy, when i removed python from this system  ;/     then some of the people in #ubuntu did almost the same when i changed root's name...  ;/
[08:13]  * Agent_bob hides.
[08:37] <pxc> howdy
[08:37] <pxc> quick question: using Nvidia binary drivers + TwinView, how do I keep the external monitor active with the laptop lid closed?
[08:38] <Freku> hotkey on laptop
[08:38] <Freku> most of the times
[08:38] <Freku> not os-relatedd
[08:39] <Freku> in bios maybe ?
[08:45] <dr_willis> Hmm.. I thought it was a powersaving feture.. :) but im not sure
[08:46] <dr_willis> My laptop worked that way.. and i dont rember what i did to it
[08:46] <Agent_bob> dr_willis my tosheba has a bios setting.
[08:47] <Agent_bob> i have actually had an external plugged into it one time.
[08:47] <dr_willis> Yea. I bring my laptop home from work. plug in external. but i still have to lift the lid to power it on. :)
[08:48] <dr_willis> and the exteranl does not work untill X gets loaded up
[08:48] <Linux_Galore> yeah there is a nvidia flag that you can set in the xorg.conf file to tell it not to turn the external monitor off when the lid closes
[08:48] <Linux_Galore> I activated with my laptop to fix the same bug
[08:49] <Agent_bob> hmm i didn't have that problem with the ati chip and the default bios setting,  it automaticly switched to the external when it was power'd on with it plugged in.
[08:49] <dr_willis> Yea.. a lot depends on the exact chipset/video cards ive noticed over the years.
[08:50]  * Agent_bob despises ati anyway.
[08:50] <dr_willis> On my old nvidia box.. I could plug in the tv to the tv out. and with JUST the tv out plugged in.. the whole machine would default to the tv out. No drivers/tweaks needed
[08:50] <Linux_Galore> the only headache with the hack is when I swap back to using the laptop in standalone X org does a dummy spit until I remove the line
[08:51] <dr_willis> I got twinview setup where i dont even have to edit things..  sort of handy..
[08:51] <dr_willis> except for the fact. i cant use the console on the external monitor. :(
[08:51] <Agent_bob> that would blow
[08:52] <dr_willis> One box i had - ages ago.. defaulted to the tv out.. even if i dident have it enabled in the xorg.conf :) i was booting to a black screen.. but i heard the startup sounds...
[08:52] <dr_willis> tuned on the TV and the X display was there...
[08:53] <Agent_bob> heh        ;/
[08:53] <dr_willis> friends laptiop - with ubuntu.. some how would enable the extarnal monitor conection every so often at boot up.
[08:53] <Linux_Galore> one cant but help wonder if Xorg produces most of the questions on here
[08:53] <Linux_Galore> in*
[08:53] <dr_willis> so he had a black screen.. then we happened to hit the monitor -combo key on the laptop and it showed up
[08:53] <dr_willis> Linux_Galore,  i would say its in the top 10. :)
[08:53] <Agent_bob> well i'm out.  you fellows can surely handle this without me.
[08:54] <dr_willis> tthe new auto-confgiring X stuff - has caused lots of  issues.
[08:54] <Linux_Galore> hopefully xorg 1.5 works better
[08:54] <Agent_bob> Linux_Galore i thought kde produced the most here...
[08:54] <Linux_Galore> so far for me its working
[08:54] <Agent_bob> anyway.   i'm out.
[08:54] <Linux_Galore> Agent_bob: most of those questions though are lazy people who dont read manuals
[08:55] <Agent_bob> Linux_Galore i'll have you know. i resemble that remark.
[08:55] <Agent_bob> (:
[08:56] <Linux_Galore> Im thinking more along the lines of "my [place hardware here] doesnt work" type of questions
[08:57] <dr_willis> I find that normally it works.. or its totally unsupported. :)
[09:14] <etfb> Trouble with Firefox's Download Manager: every file acts like it has the mime type "file", and must therefore be opened with Konqueror.  How do I make it open PDFs, archives, sound files etc each as their correct type with the correct application?
[09:22] <dvoid_> tried to install the latest 8.10 beta yesterday, could not even get the installation to work :(
[09:23] <dvoid_> if i start the desktop from cd everything is broken when kde4 starts, all fonts a really big etc
[09:23] <dvoid_> and if i start the installation (from the boot meny)  it loads for a while then stops and all i get is a black screen with a mouse cursor
[09:23] <dvoid_> tried the failsafe graphics mode but no difference
[09:36] <CoderCR> Hello.
[09:37] <CoderCR> I am trying to get hardware acceleration working with Kubuntu (latest). I have an ATI 9100IGP.
[09:45] <kdavey> Hello all
[09:46] <kdavey> Anyone else having a problem with getting 8.10beta to display over 800x600 in virtualbox?
[10:15]  * ^Lolcat_Lieber^ goes to bed
[10:40] <martinjh99> Morning - How do you set up a printer in KDE4..?
[10:41] <bazhang> #kubuntu-kde4 for that martinjh99
[10:41] <martinjh99> oops sorry!  :)
[10:42] <bazhang> :)
[10:50] <[JokerSolutions]> hmm for some reason the Plasma Workspace Add-On Installer (from kde 4.1.2) doesn't seem to have any sources in its config, anyone knows how to workaround?
[10:50] <Dragonath> hey, is there an easy way I could route internet coming in from one network adapter to go through the other network adapter?
[10:51] <stdin> [JokerSolutions]: it's an issue with kde-look.org
[10:51] <lars__> serverlist
[10:51] <[JokerSolutions]> stdin: ok thx :)
[10:53] <stdin> Dragnslcr: you mean turn your PC into a router?
[10:53] <Dragonath> kind of
[10:54] <Dragonath> I imagine I could do that with a few ifconfig commands but I have no idea where to start
[10:54] <geek> Dragonath: i *think* either guarddog or firestarted can do that
[10:55] <Dragonath> you mean firestarter?
[10:55] <[JokerSolutions]> Dragonath: i think webmin should be able to make those configs in iptables quite easy
[10:55] <Dragonath> hm ok
[10:56] <stdin> Dragnslcr: this is the script I used to use (before getting an actual router) http://pastebin.com/f775c82be
[10:56] <geek> Dragonath: yes
[10:56] <Dragonath> stdin: you're tabbing the wrong guy
[10:56] <Dragonath> :)
[10:56] <stdin> Dragonath: you and your silly nick :p
[10:57]  * geek sadly enough used to use a windows box as a router. still use one on a VM as a secondary wifi router since its wireless adaptor has master mode ;p
[10:58] <[JokerSolutions]> geek: *lol* i know how that feels, my firewall/router is an xp machine running in ics-mode :O, cuz i can't get drivers for my usb-umts-modem for linux :P
[10:59] <geek> [JokerSolutions]: i ended up getting a WRT 54 GL ;p
[11:01] <[JokerSolutions]> that at least works ;)
[11:01] <MadRabbit> How do I set up (and create) my swap BEFORE my install (Acer laptop w/Vista preinstalled)? Kubuntu to gog on a seperate partiton.
[11:02] <stdin> MadRabbit: why do you need to? the default install makes a swap partition for you
[11:02] <MadRabbit> ..."gog"? famn dingers...
[11:02] <geek> [JokerSolutions]: and is simpler, and in theory use less power if my win/game box wasn't on ALL THE TIME ;p
[11:03] <Dragonath> I'll try out this webmin thing, thanks joker
[11:03] <[JokerSolutions]> geek: och i know ;)
[11:03] <MadRabbit> ok, so putting swap before won't help anything?
[11:03] <[JokerSolutions]> Dragonath: yw :)
[11:04] <geek> MadRabbit: not unless you have a box with VERY little ram, no
[11:04] <bazhang> !webmin
[11:04] <stdin> MadRabbit: nothing stopping you from selecting "manual partitioning" from the installer and setting up all the partitions yourself, but you don't need to do anything special if you just want a default install
[11:04] <bazhang> better to use ebox
[11:04] <ub1_> ciao to all!
[11:04] <MadRabbit> stdin: thanks!
[11:05] <[JokerSolutions]> hmm, ok didn't know that with webmin, i just used it last week to get nfs running in ubuntu
[11:07] <MadRabbit> I have mandriva (along w/Vista) on one laptop since I couldn't get the wifi working in 8.04.
[11:08] <salvatore_> ragazzi, ho problemi con il router... non riesco ad aprire le porte!
[11:09] <thor> hi guys
[11:10] <thor> i have a problem with my soundcard after i reinstalled kubuntu
[11:10] <MadRabbit> stdin: thanks for your time!
[11:10] <thor> i have a realtek alc882 soundcard
[11:10] <stdin> no problem :)
[11:11] <thor> it worked very well until i reinstalled kubuntu
[11:12] <thor> how can i reinstall/fix the soundcard problem ?
[11:12] <JackWinter> stdin: thanks for your advice yesterday.  got all my filesystems straightened out.  unfortunately my kde problems continue :)
[11:14] <stdin> JackWinter: do they know anything about it in #kde ?
[11:16] <thor> so, can anyone help me ?
[11:16] <JackWinter> stdin: don't think i've tried that one.  my kded racing problem met with no success in kubuntu-developer, only the suggestion to upgrade to 3.5.10 and hope it goes away.  just looked and when booting from the 8.04 live cd kded is behaving.  i suppose that means it's something i've installed or reconfigured that causes it.  am considering installing another 8.04 and try mounting my /home and see if it occurs again.
[11:18] <stdin> JackWinter: you may consider moving ~/.kde/share/config/kdedrc somewhere and letting KDE regenerate it
[11:19] <JackWinter> stdin: thanks that sounds like an idea.  the other problem i have is with konqueror and klauncher.  (new sine a few days), any idea what i'd need to delete to reinitialize konqueror ?
[11:20] <stdin> all KDEs settings are in ~/.kde/share/config/, so probably ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc
[11:21] <JackWinter> stdin: cool, that is a good start.
[11:23] <JackWinter> i am considering moving /boot to it's own partition.  that means creating a new partition and the free disk space is before my unix partitions.  fstab mounts all partitons by uuid now.  and i have the supergrub disk to fix grub.  any pitfalls i should be aware of ?
[11:25] <stdin> JackWinter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#If%20/boot%20is%20on%20another%20partition has some info on that
[11:30] <thor> can anyone help me to solve my problem with my soundcard (realtek alc882)?
[11:35] <frybye> thor: what does aslamixer say???
[11:35] <[JokerSolutions]> thor: sorry but i have very similar problems here, only that this kubuntu runs in a vbox, but still, sound worked b4, upgraded to 4.1.2 and now the sounds doesn't work anymore, and i haven't the foggiest of what's going wrong :)
[11:35] <frybye> nothing muted...
[11:35] <frybye> ??
[11:35] <thor> nothing muted
[11:36] <frybye> in the normal kmixer - everything checked no mutes...?
[11:36] <frybye> in system-settings|sound - the right device selected??
[11:38] <thor> in system-settings|sound: autodetect
[11:38] <frybye> and if you try selecting some of the shown stuff manually??
[11:38] <thor> in kmixer: nothing is mute
[11:39] <frybye> sorry for this question - but - phsyically - the lead to your speakers is really plugged into the right socket - power on etc etc...?
[11:39] <thor> yeap
[11:40] <frybye> you have rebooted and no change??
[11:41] <frybye> and there are no sounds.. or only system sounds - or only music or ???
[11:41] <thor> hold on to reboot.
[11:41] <frybye> I am only a relative newbie to linix myself.. is there a real guru out there who can help out here a bit...?
[11:42] <thor> there is no sound at all not even when i enter in kde
[11:42] <frybye> in linux regularly the re-boot not nearly as important as in wind.
[11:42] <frybye> you have a separate sound card or on the motherboard??
[11:44] <frybye> if it is a separat sound card in a pci slot - try taking it out - boot the pc with no sound card.. then shut down - remove the lead for 90 secs and then insert the sound card in a -different- pci slot.. then try all again...#
[11:51] <moza> hello here, does somebody know how to unmount a device that was uncorrectly mounted?
[11:52] <moza> i can't unmount under Konqueror and my error message is :
[11:52] <moza> Method "Unmount" with signature "as" on interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" doesn't exist
[11:56] <blackflag> !nfs
[11:59] <kiba_> hi
[11:59] <thor> i've booted using the live cd and the sound is workig perfect
[11:59] <kiba_> How do I resume my 8.10 installation wizard?
[11:59] <thor> i think i will reinstall the k084
[12:00] <thor> *k804
[12:00] <kiba_> Can anybody help me?
[12:01] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for intrepid kiba_
[12:01] <kiba_> k
[12:15] <geek> anyone can recommend a good programme to rip a VCD to avi?
[12:34] <manutira> ciao a tutti
[12:38] <sona_> zdar lidi
[12:42] <jussi01> !it
[12:44] <ubuntu> ipconfig
[12:44] <ubuntu> zdar lidi
[12:44] <ubuntu> cmd
[12:44] <ubuntu> close servse
[12:44] <ubuntu> -p
[12:44] <ubuntu> -rm
[12:45] <sorush20> can some one help me the upgrade didn't work well now I can't do apt -get update or anything with apt
[12:45] <jussi01> geek: vlc should be able to do that just fine
[12:45] <geek> jussi01: o0 vlc can rip?
[12:46] <sorush20> geek: yes vlc can do alot of things but you just have to go to wizard
[12:46] <jussi01> geek: yeah, the wizard in file is quite cool
[12:46] <sorush20> there is the transcode
[12:47] <jussi01> sorush20: can you paste the error messages?
[12:47] <sorush20> there is not error message maybe is should run adept -v
[12:47] <chfwiggum> sorush20:  tried sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[12:48] <jussi01> sorush20: try this in terminal: sudo apt-get install -f
[12:49] <sorush20> chfwiggum: yes I done both of those nothing happned really
[12:49] <chfwiggum> :) well something should happen
[12:50] <sorush20> when I press update in adept manager a progress bar fills really quickly and I can't tell what it is..
[12:50] <sorush20> thne nothing updates..
[12:51] <chfwiggum> close adept, use the console
[12:51] <sorush20> in terminal apt-get update i keep getting connection refused..
[12:51] <adi> hi all
[12:51] <sorush20> I'm on campus and and behind a firewall and proxy
[12:51] <sorush20> I@m not sure how to setthings up
[12:52] <adi> how to use konqueror as root?
[12:52] <adi> is it any extension or command to do that
[12:52] <sorush20> I can set the proxy up in firefox with this file url http://portal.uwe.ac.uk/proxy.pac
[12:52] <adi> I need to navigate through fiile sys as root
[12:52] <sorush20> but I'mnot sure how to setup kde with this proxy
[12:52] <sorush20> http://portal.uwe.ac.uk/proxy.pac
[12:53] <jussi01> adi: kdesudo konqueror
[12:53] <jussi01> adi: but be VERY careful!
[12:53] <arild_> testing out here
[12:53] <adi> ok thanks
[12:54] <arild_>  first time on this
[12:55] <sorush20> I@m back
[12:55] <sorush20> stil nothing habbening
[12:56] <arild_> testing this for first time
[12:57] <chfwiggum> congrats arild_
[12:58] <arild_> yes i have  no xp anymore :)
[12:58] <chfwiggum> yay, kubuntu the first time?
[12:58] <arild_> ubuntu
[12:59] <arild_> but it works great
[12:59] <chfwiggum> sure it works :)
[12:59] <arild_> i get it in my language .norwegian
[13:01] <arild_> this is a great system
[13:01] <chfwiggum> already everything installed u need arild_?
[13:01] <arild_> to mutch
[13:02] <arild_> he,he
[13:02] <chfwiggum> :)
[13:03] <arild_> trying it out...and have som language training
[13:03] <arild_> kubuntu is debian too
[13:04] <chfwiggum> well, all *ubuntus are debian based
[13:04] <chfwiggum> but kubuntu is with kde instead of gnome
[13:04] <arild_> windows in the garbage
[13:04] <chfwiggum> ^^
[13:04] <arild_> ok
[13:05] <jussi01> !ot
[13:06] <arild_> what the difference
[13:06] <cga> arild_: support in here, chat in there
[13:06] <JackWinter> hmm, what is the best way to install several linux systems on a hdd.  sda1 is xp. sda2 is a vfat, sda3 is osx, sda4 is an extended partition. sda5 is my kubuntu root containing /boot, sda6 and sda7 are unused partitions, and sda8 is my /home partition.  i also have some free diskspace (200mb), that i was gonna use for a separate /boot, but after googling i understand it might be better to have a separate /boot/grub instead ?
[13:06] <cga> arild_: it's a matter of keeping the channel clean for people who need help
[13:06] <arild_> ok
[13:07] <cga> =)
[13:07] <arild_> understand
[13:07] <cga> cool
[13:07] <arild_> first time here
[13:08] <arild_> lot of cool people here
[13:08] <arild_> see you
[13:08] <arild_> bye
[13:09] <cga> JackWinter: i never understood how to use a single GRUB for # distros. but i've read that you can install one grub and use chains in menu.lst/grub.conf to boot other oses. the latters nned to have grub installed in their /boot separate partitions
[13:09] <JackWinter> chiefly i'd like to install a paralell kubuntu to trouble shoot, and possibly a ubuntustudio to test.  i'd also like to test 8.10 when it comes out on a separate partition.
[13:10] <cga> mmmm GRUB/distros should really get together to implement this behaviour better
[13:10] <JackWinter> cga: i don't understand enough of how it works to decide what to do.  with one linux boot, it's a no brainer booting xp and osx, but i have no idea how to add more linuxes :)
[13:10] <cga> i just told you
[13:10] <cga> chains
[13:10] <cga> read man grub
[13:11] <JackWinter> cga: ok, going googling again :)
[13:11] <cga> i don't know much neither about it
[13:11] <JackWinter> cga: i already chain to boot osx
[13:11] <cga> and windows i suppose
[13:12] <jussi01> JackWinter: its quite easy to do, you just install them to separate partitions, at grub install time it finds them and list them
[13:12] <JackWinter> cga: suppose so, but not sure.  so then it would boot into one grub, and then load another ?
[13:12] <cga> JackWinter: grub works with 3 phases
[13:13] <cga> 1 in mbr and 1.5 and 2 in /boot/grub
[13:13] <cga> so...
[13:13] <JackWinter> jussi01: i suppose i should just try it and see what happens.  in the worst case i have the supergrub disk
[13:13] <cga> you'll have the same 1 phase for all sistem in mbr and each system will have its own 1.5 and 2 phases in its own /boot/grub
[13:14] <cga> that's where chains come in
[13:14] <JackWinter> so no need for a separate /boot or /boot/grub ?
[13:14] <jussi01> JackWinter: just install as per normal
[13:14] <cga> JackWinter: please read what i say.
[13:14] <cga> jussi01: that's not what he wants/needs
[13:15] <cga> if he does as you say, he will end with the latest distro's grub caring for everything
[13:15] <cga> which is not bad at all
[13:15] <jussi01> cga: as I understand it, he wants 3 separate partitions with 2 different kubuntu's and an ubuntustudio
[13:15] <JackWinter> cga: i am reading but not understanding :)  What i want is for grub to listen my different os's and kernels and to boot into whichever i want
[13:15] <cga> but not really convenient if you uninstgall it
[13:15] <jussi01> cga: so whats the problem with that?
[13:16] <jussi01> JackWinter: just make the last one you install the stable on that you will keep.
[13:16] <jussi01> no use making it more complicated than he needs
[13:16] <cga> oh my dear lord
[13:17] <cga> JackWinter: you choose. i told you how it works and gave you a hint on what to do.
[13:20] <jussi01> JackWinter: what cgais saying is correct, you can do it that way, though it takes a bit more knowhow. My way will work, but is not as "failsafe" if you decide to remove the last installed distro
[13:20] <JackWinter> to clarify.  i already have a triple boot.  xp/osx/kubuntu.  i suppose the boot.lst might get very complex with several different distros and different kernels to boot.  if i understand chaining correctly it would give me first a menu chosing between my different (already installed) kernel in the existing kubuntu, xp, osx, and other linuxes.  once i choose another linux install i would again be prompted for kernel to load etc.  or would that have to
[13:20] <JackWinter> be already in the first boot.lst
[13:21] <JackWinter> jussi01: i have the supergrub and some knowledge.  mostly lacking in experience :)  think i could repair my grub if things went wrong...
[13:23] <JackWinter> it's difficult to google for this, because most instructions are for what i already have set up :)
[13:25] <cga> JackWinter: follow this: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Grub
[13:25] <sorush20> adapt crashes everytime I try to update
[13:26] <sorush20> Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[13:27] <JackWinter> cga: thanks.  i'm gonna read that and study some more.  seems like a separate /boot/grub is probably the best idea, just a bit afraid to implement it:)  google here i come :)
[13:29] <chfwiggum> sorush20:  can u open a console?
[13:31] <JackWinter> another thing that scares me a little is that my bios and kubuntu seem to agree as to what is disk 1 and 2.  osx and xp show them reversed in order...
[13:31] <sorush20> Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>) why is apt-get trying to connect to this?
[13:31] <sorush20> Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[13:34] <sorush20> Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[13:34] <sorush20> Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[13:34] <sorush20> Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[13:34] <sorush20> Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[13:34] <sorush20> Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[13:35] <sorush20> Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[13:35] <sorush20> sorry I though I was in terminal
[13:35] <sorush20> sorry
[13:36] <JackWinter> hmm, which grub is being used in ubuntu 8.04 ?  seems to be several around ?
[13:38] <JackWinter> and cga, i think that the chaining might be the way to go, if i understand how it works.  then each new linux would have it's own /boot with kernels and menu.lst allowing me to choose kernel ?
[13:39] <JackWinter> ah, it's gnu grub 0.97 (at the last page of man grub ;)
[13:39] <frybye> how can I view /dev/sndstat - even with kdesudo kate it wont let me access it...????
[13:42] <chfwiggum> frybye:  try cat /dev/sndstat
[13:43] <frybye> chfwiggum:
[13:43] <frybye> chfwiggum: thanks.. sorry...
[13:43] <chfwiggum> :)
[13:43] <frybye> eh now I did an lspci and the card does not show up any place - new soundcard - any ideas???
[13:44] <frybye> cat /dev/sndstat says - no such file or directory.. one can find it with dolphin - just no access...
[13:45] <ilkin> sorry , where is firefox's cach?
[13:45] <ilkin> I mean directory of cash
[13:45] <ilkin> *cach
[13:48] <eagles0513875> how do i check what kernel version im on right now
[13:49] <Jucato> uname -r
[13:52] <amine> do u know someone s.thing about c language ?
[13:52] <amine> i want help ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:53] <chfwiggum> ilkin: check http://grownupgeek.com/blog-firefoxs-abouts-weird
[13:56] <amine> hi! do u know s.thing about c language ? i want the help please
[13:56] <amine> Arabe ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:56] <Freku> i dont think this a c-language channel
[13:57] <chfwiggum> amine:  dude,maybe the wrong channel ?
[13:57] <jean> bonjour
[13:58] <jean> je n'arrive pas à utiliser ma connection wifi
[13:58] <chfwiggum> lol encore une fois en anglais svp
[13:59] <eagles0513875> how do i check what kernel version im on right now
[13:59] <Freku> type uname -r
[13:59] <jussi01> !fr | jean
[13:59] <amine> quelle matiriel avais vous ?
[14:00] <eagles0513875> !fr | amine
[14:00] <amine> thx
[14:01] <kthakore> I keep getting this error when  I am trying to run symantik (upgrade of kdissert) from /usr/lib/kde4/bin/semantik  symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleEv
[14:02] <eagles0513875> !uname
[14:03] <Freku> otherwise google on " check kernel version "
[14:05] <kthakore> anyone ?
[14:13] <Freku> !version
[14:16] <DexterF> hi
[14:16] <DexterF> !lts
[14:17] <DexterF> ...
[14:17] <DexterF> is Kubuntu 8.04 an LTS release? Rumor had it it was not
[14:18] <SSJ_GZ> DexterF: No, it's not.  Ubuntu 8.04 is, though.
[14:19] <DexterF> SSJ_GZ: now I'm confused. The german site kubuntu.de says 8.04 is an LTS as well supported till 2011
[14:19] <stdin> DexterF: the base is LTS, KDE packages are not
[14:20] <DexterF> what would happen if the base was changed to break a compatibility with kde?
[14:20] <stdin> how could it?
[14:22] <DexterF> HAL perhaps? kernel?
[14:24] <stdin> DexterF: impossible
[14:24] <DexterF> I've been running Linux for 9 years now and come to think: nothing is impossible.
[14:24] <stdin> it's impossible because it'd never pass a SRU
[14:25] <DexterF> I am not concerned with the Scottish Rugby Union
[14:25] <stdin> Stable Release Update
[14:26] <DexterF> I see
[14:26] <stdin> and KDE doesn't interact with the kernel, so that doesn't matter (it doesn't interact with HAL in any way that an SRU for HAL would effect it)
[14:26] <DexterF> nevertheless this means after the 8.10 release the kde 3.5.9 in 8.04 will not be supported any longer?
[14:27] <stdin> no, it still has the normal 18 month support
[14:28] <DexterF> (duh)
[14:28] <thor> is there any piece of software on linux for browsing anonymous ?
[14:30] <Freku> TOR amybe
[14:30] <Freku> but thats not only for linux
[14:31] <DexterF> thor: TOR. wiki should tell you how to get it running
[14:31] <matt__> heys
[14:32] <DexterF> thor: read the info on dos and donts, too, just because you're IP cant be traced doesn't mean someone can sniff your plain text email login if you get my drift
[14:32] <Freku> yeah  should be carefull with it
[14:33] <matt__> I have just upgraded to 8.10 beta, and I'm trying to enable the compiz desktop effects in system->Desktop Effects.  The options are greyed, and the menu states that I need to install the compiz engine. THe install button states that the requested packages are already installed
[14:33] <matt__> is there a manual way to do this or should I try a reinstall of the package it is referring to?
[14:34] <DexterF> stdin: just watching the adept video of yours on google/video. I migrated a bunch of people recently who'd possibly find something like this useful, but is there a hi res version as well where you can actually read the desktop?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:34] <DexterF> hey
[14:35] <BluesKaj> DexterF, perhaps your res is set somewhat low
[14:36] <DexterF> 16x12. that vid is scaled up like heck.
[14:36] <BluesKaj> got a url ?
[14:36] <DexterF> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5676029952918957384
[14:37] <stdin> DexterF: maybe the mpg4 version, but there's a mpeg2 version "Available on request"
[14:37] <BluesKaj> ok, I see your point :(
[14:37] <stdin> http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/Installing_updates_on_Kubuntu_with_adept
[14:37]  * stdin should update that and do some more
[14:38] <stdin> but there are only 24 hours in a day :(
[14:39] <BluesKaj> yeah stdin, and i just installed a new 22" samsung monitor with 1680x1050 res :)
[14:40] <BluesKaj> wife liked it so much i had get her one too , for her vista pc
[14:41] <sourcemaker> Intrepid is crashing... the kde home is not usable... what's wrong?
[14:41] <DexterF> stdin: I say we expand the earth orbit. thus we counteract global warming and the planet loses momentum, resulting in longer night/day cycles
[14:42] <BluesKaj> can't find any linux drivers for it altho the plugnplay does the job quite nicely
[14:42] <BluesKaj> methinks there will be an offtopic cop along soon :)
[14:56] <JackWinter> hmm, having studied grub for a while now, it nearly seems like the best way would be to create a special grub partition to contain menu.lst, and then let whatever os do what it was on install.  add the right statements to menu.lst and rewrite the mbr to look in the right place.  don't know it might be alot to keep track of.  don't install that many os's and not that often though.  gonna go research chainloading now to see if that has any advantages...
[14:56] <JackWinter> was=wants
[14:58] <JackWinter> think this would be the most transparent solution for the various os' but on the other hand more work for me :)
[15:09] <jussi01> Hrm, how does one change permissions for a whole drive? I have a USB hdd that currently requires me to be root to write to it... :/
[15:10] <stdin> jussi01: when it's mounted "sudo chmod ... /place/where/you/mounted/it"
[15:10] <jussi01> stdin: hrm, ok...
[15:11] <stdin> so if it's "/media/Disk" "sudo chmod 777 /media/Disk"
[15:11] <stdin> or just chown it to you
[15:12] <jussi01> oh, that was easy... hrm, why didnt that work graphically, well, nevermind, fixed now :)
[15:16] <JackWinter> hehe, think i'm gonna install ubuntustudio now reset the mbr to point to kubuntu and try the chainloader.  pretty sure i'm gonna create a separate partition for /boot/grub eventually though.
[15:17] <JackWinter> to share /boot between all my ubuntus seem like it would be a big pain..
[15:19] <JackWinter> i'll mount the grub partition into /mnt/boot on all linuxes, like that i can modify the menu.lst from any distro, and if i need, i'll just have to update the mbr again.
[15:19] <JackWinter> i hope that they will work out a more comprehensive multiboot system one day
[15:21] <JackWinter> regarding the above.  i have a win/mac cdrom that i can't get at because its owner is 501:501.  can i just sudo chown it, and the access it from other processes ?
[15:30] <JackWinter> hmm, seems like chmod and chown don't work on a readonly media.  will probably have to copy it onto my fs before trying that.
[15:31] <JackWinter> ok, off to installing ubuntustudio and seeing if chainloader does what i hope
[15:58] <Ash-Fox> Despite having done what this error message keeps saying when I try to play this DVD the same thing over and over, "This DVD Video is encrypted. To be able to watch it you will need to install libdvdcss by running from a console: sudo /usr/share/doc/kaffeine/install-css.sh. In some countries it is illegal to install the decryption software without permission from the video copyright holder."
[16:04] <DexterF> Ash-Fox: just came in.. what did you do so far?
[16:05] <Ash-Fox> DexterF, pretty much that. But I suspect the DVD is damaged.
[16:05] <DexterF> check for the following package: libxine1-ffmpeg. is that installed? if not, do so
[16:05] <byteme_> hello all
[16:05] <kevin_> Hello all, I am trying to burn an image of I.I. 8.10. I have the download in the home folder. I put the dvd into the drive and k3b asks what to do. I set the  the application to burn, but k3b does not recognize the dvd in the drive...can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?
[16:05] <DexterF> Ash-Fox: ah... that script... never seemed to me like good advice. I rather you add the medibuntu repository and install libdvdcss2 from that
[16:06] <DexterF> kevin_: the dvd is blank for sure?
[16:07] <kevin_> dexter...fresh out fo the box...but I will try another.
[16:08] <byteme_> I have a problem hard drive with 2 partions that wont boot to windows so I am using it as an external drive
[16:09] <byteme_> however it looks like I can aonly see 1 partition and its the data recovery side.
[16:09] <DexterF> kevin_: describe in more detail how you attempt to write the iso and with what program, version. did writing from that installation work once?
[16:09] <byteme_> How can I view the partion with my data on it?
[16:10] <bilicki> what is the channel for 8.10?
[16:10] <kevin_> when I put a dvd into the drive k3b asks create data dvd....I say yes...(I am using HH 8.04.
[16:11] <byteme_> I'm sure you can get help for 8.10 (just versions that are still beta you would need another room)
[16:12] <kevin_> I say o.k.       the file I want to burn is in the top pane......what ought I do now?
[16:13] <kevin_> lower pane...current projects is blank
[16:14] <kevin_> k3b recognizes a disk is available, sinceit is  telling me how much free space I have on it
[16:17] <kevin_> dexter...I am burning the image...the trick was to add the image to a 'project' lower  pane..and tell it to burn the single image. thanks anyway
[16:23] <bilicki> well 8.10 is still beta. Anyway, I cannon add extra widgets from the internet. Are they just not available? I want a weather widget like in Vista
[16:25] <bilicki> join #KDE4
[16:25] <SSJ_GZ> bilicki: There's not really any downloadable ones available.  Once Plasma + scripting languages take off, we should see some more.
[16:26] <jussi01> bilicki: SSJ_GZ there are some good extras in this ppa, but use at your own risk ;) https://edge.launchpad.net/~samrog131/+archive
[16:28] <bilicki> there is this thing called kweather
[16:28] <bilicki> I'll check it out
[16:41] <Foxxx> How can i change the audio output settings? I have a usb headset, if i boot with it connected it sets ALL audio output to it, how can i swap back to my speakers without a reboot?
[16:44] <jussi01> Foxxx: asoundconf list
[16:44] <eric>
[16:44] <jussi01> then asoundconf set-default-card <cardname>
[16:46] <Eld> is there a special chan for the beta ?
[16:46] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 Eld
[16:46] <Foxxx> i did, the audio is still just running in my headset
[16:46] <Eld> thx
[16:47] <wesley_> is there a way to hide my ip in firefox or konqueror
[16:50] <Foxxx> wesley: AFAIK you'd need to use a proxy or TOR
[16:50] <wesley_> Where can i get TOR ?
[16:51] <Foxxx> i think its in the repos, but i'm not 100% sure, i havent used it in a while - Tor for KDE is called TorK
[16:56] <jussi01> Foxxx: sorry, had to run for a bit. did you restart the app in question?
[16:57] <Foxxx> its ALL my audio, like EVERYTHING, its all coming out of the hedset, short of rebooting i dunno what to do (im trying to get it so i can swap as needed)
[17:06] <zsolt> hi
[17:06] <Babble> hi - total newbie question: I accidentally closed my Adept window, while an update was running. Is there a way I can get a window for the already-running instance of Adept-updater?
[17:06] <Babble> if I click the updater icon in the system tray, it tries to launch a new instance of adept
[17:08] <martijn> how do i know which binary video driver i have to install?
[17:10] <martijn> anyone?
[17:12] <zsolt> what card do you have?
[17:13] <martijn> yeah, i do not know that
[17:13] <eagles0513875> martijn: lspci
[17:14] <eagles0513875> martijn: then search for ur video card its either nvidia or ati sometimes there might be another 3rd party video card
[17:14] <martijn> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 6700 XL (rev a2)
[17:14] <dvoideee> how does super karamba stuff in kde4
[17:14] <dvoideee> i installed the superkaramba kde4 package, but i down know how to use it
[17:15] <martijn> ok, but there are numerous version for nvidia
[17:16] <zsolt> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[17:16] <martijn> so how do i know which one i need>
[17:16] <eagles0513875> zsolt: easier way then that
[17:16] <eagles0513875> martijn: under system
[17:16] <martijn> no i want one from the repository
[17:16] <zsolt> let's check this
[17:16] <eagles0513875> martijn: click on hardware drivers monitor
[17:16] <zsolt> why?
[17:16] <eagles0513875> martijn: what im telling u will pull the one from the repo
[17:16] <martijn> eagles0513875: where can i find this?
[17:17] <eagles0513875> martijn: look under system then hardware drivers monitor
[17:17] <eagles0513875> it will pull up any drivers for any restricted hardware from video cards to wifi cards in laptops
[17:17] <martijn> in kde4?
[17:17] <eagles0513875> hold up let me check on vm
[17:17] <eagles0513875> should be same location under system then hardware drivers monitor
[17:18] <jussi01> martijn: kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[17:18] <eagles0513875> martijn: go to apps system the hardware drivers monitor
[17:18] <yao_ziyuan> does ctrl+alt+bksp restart x?
[17:18] <jussi01> yao_ziyuan: slightly uncleanly, but yes
[17:18] <eagles0513875> martijn: u get my whisper
[17:18] <yao_ziyuan> jussi01: why unclearly?
[17:19]  * genii slides jussi01 a coffee
[17:19] <stdin> yao_ziyuan: it doesn't restart X, it drastically kills it. KDM will then notice X has died and start a new X session
[17:19]  * Foxxx gives up and reboots his pc
[17:20]  * jussi01 hugs stdin
[17:20]  * stdin notes there is a "Restart X server" in KDM
[17:20] <yao_ziyuan> stdin: ok
[17:20] <jussi01> yeah, alt+e
[17:22] <kiba> hi
[17:22] <kiba> I want to attach to an existing terminal session
[17:22] <kiba> like this one
[17:22] <kiba> using dtach
[17:22] <kiba> except I don't know the socket
[17:23] <martijn> thanks eagles0513875
[17:23] <martijn> bye!
[17:45] <ziggy> will there be panel hiding enabled in the next kubuntu?
[17:45] <kevin_> hi guys...I just downloaded gparted live iso...I have a pop up that says saving it will result in a corrupt file. does anyone know  how to get an iso of gparted ?
[17:45] <kevin_> that is not corrupt?
[17:46] <jussi01> kevin_: try right clicking the link, then sav
[17:46] <jussi01> save*
[17:47] <kevin_> jussie01...I will try that
[17:47] <jussi01> !tab | kevin_
[17:48] <kevin_> save link as...(I am using konqueror" has sent it to my   home folder, thanks
[17:48] <jussi01> :)
[17:48] <Tallken> hi guys, I need help with a 2.6.27 kernel but noone answers in #ubuntu-testing nor #ubuntu+1 , so I need just one info: what is this: http://pastebin.com/m3b42cb29 ? a module crash?
[17:49] <kevin_> will k3b be able to handle the burning of this iso?
[17:50] <ubuntu_> Hello! I got a partitioning problem: I want to create a 5th partition on 1 HDD but I can't.
[17:51] <Tallken> ubuntu_: primary partition?
[17:51] <ubuntu_> There are 3 primary partitions and one swap partition (logical).
[17:51] <chfwiggum> no, ur swap is also primary
[17:51] <jussi01> Tallken: please be patient in there, as it is a weekend
[17:51] <jussi01> !weekend | Tallken
[17:52] <eagles0513875> !find ispconfig
[17:52] <Tallken> jussi01: thanks... can you look for 3 seconds at http://pastebin.com/m3b42cb29 and tell me if that's a module crash and how come it didn't bring the entire system down? :P
[17:53] <jussi01> Tallken: to be honest, I wouldnt know. sorry :(
[17:53] <Tallken> ok, thanks anyway jussi01:)
[17:53] <ubuntu_> Tallken, chfwiggum: Is it possible that the partition with the root-mountpoint is a secondary partition?
[17:53] <chfwiggum> Tallken: i also looked at it, maybe u try at #linux or sth, they compile frequently
[17:53] <Tallken> jussi01: you can't have on normal x86 systems more than 4 primary partitions
[17:54] <Tallken> jussi01: sorry not for you
[17:54] <jussi01> :)
[17:54] <Tallken> ubuntu_: you can't have on normal x86 systems more than 4 primary partitions
[17:54] <Tallken> ubuntu_: as a workaround someone invented extended partitions
[17:55] <Tallken> ubuntu_: you set up a special primary partition which can contain on itself more partitions, called logical partitions
[17:55] <ubuntu_> Tallken: I know. But what I didn't know was that a swap-partition is automatically primary.
[17:55] <Tallken> ubuntu_: only then can you get more partitions
[17:55] <Tallken> ubuntu_: neither do I, and they don't
[17:55] <Tallken> ubuntu_: my swap partition is a logical one
[17:56] <Tallken> ubuntu_: $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[17:56] <kevin_> jussio1: thanks, I am burning the disk now!
[17:56] <sourcemaker> how can I see my desktop in kde 4... which plasma is requiredß
[17:56] <sourcemaker> ?
[17:56] <LordCrc> hi
[17:57] <Tallken> sourcemaker: add a plasma which allows you to see a folder
[17:57] <Tallken> sourcemaker: and point it to the Desktop folder
[17:57] <ubuntu_> Tallken: Thanks. OK. Got it. And got it to work.
[17:57] <sourcemaker> Tallken: I have no plasma with this functionality in my list! which package do I need to install?
[17:57] <Tallken> ubuntu_: :)
[17:58] <ubuntu_> Tallken: Thanks again.  The included Dragon player wouldnt work at all, while after some tinkering kmplayer would play locally but not over network
[17:58] <LordCrc> so what can i use for networked files? (ie samba shares)
[17:58] <Tallken> sourcemaker: and add the widget: Folder view
[17:59] <sourcemaker> Tallken:  I have installed kubuntu-desktop but I do not have this widget
[17:59] <Tallken> sourcemaker: how many widgets do you have?
[18:02] <sourcemaker> too many... but no folder view
[18:04] <d43m0n> hi
[18:05] <d43m0n> hi
[18:06] <Tallken> bye
[18:07] <eagles0513875> is kde 4.1 in hardy repos
[18:08] <ign0ramus> eagles0513875: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2
[18:11] <Dillizar> /home/home/Desktop/novi filmovi/ANCHORMAN The legend of Ron Burgundy[2004]-Addiction10
[18:11] <Dillizar> /home/home/Desktop/novi filmovi/Futurama.The.Beast.With.A.Billion.Backs
[18:11] <Dillizar> /home/home/Desktop/novi filmovi/Indiana.Jones.And.The.Kingdom.Of.The.Crystal.Skull.PROPER.SCREENER A Devils Den Kvcd By Flames
[18:11] <Dillizar> /home/home/Desktop/novi filmovi/The Brothers Solomon[2007]DvDrip[Eng]-FXG
[18:11] <Dillizar> /home/home/Desktop/novi filmovi/The.Comebacks.2007.R1.Unrated.DvDRip.Eng-leetay.avi
[18:11] <Dillizar> sorry
[18:12] <Dillizar> can anybody tell me how can i connect my nokia via data cable with ObexFtP
[18:18] <kjellberg> hello
[18:23] <kjellberg> blaaa
[18:24] <Dillizar> can anybody tell me how can i connect my nokia via data cable with ObexFtP
[18:33] <surgy> i need help getting my ipod to connect with ammarok, kubuntu automaticly mounted the ipod in /dev/sdb2 and amarok sees it but when i click connect it opens a window asking for pre and psot conenct commands
[18:34] <pgib> hm, don't have a handheld player - sorry
[18:37] <surgy>  i need help getting my ipod to connect with ammarok, kubuntu automaticly mounted the ipod in /dev/sdb2 and amarok sees it but when i click connect it opens a window asking for pre and psot conenct commands
[18:39] <surgy> seams like my ipod doesnt have a mount point
[18:39] <surgy> i would usually use disk and filesystems to manage this. but it is broken saying that the module failed to start, can someone give me a hand please?
[18:44] <surgy> ?
[18:45] <eagles0513875> ?
[18:45] <Dragonath> surgy, does your ipod appear when you go to storage media?
[18:49] <dr_willis> This is why i always train the 'beginners'  at work. In how to manually mount filesystems/devices :)
[18:51]  * genii hands Dragonath a coffee
[18:51] <trigg3r> hey everyone, i am using the instructions here -  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=896713  - to get my internal wireless card to work. it actually worked, however after a power cycle, it no longer worked. i think it has to due with ndiswrapper being disabled, so if i skip that step the light that indicates that my wireless card is on actually stays lit, but no wireless networks can be found
[18:51]  * Dragonath chugs the coffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!
[18:52] <Dragonath> trigg3r: did you try "sudo iwlist scan"?
[18:52] <ramiro> anyone knows about regular expresions??
[18:52] <trigg3r> Dragonath: no let me try that
[18:52] <dr_willis> ramiro,  you may want to ask the actual question about them. :)
[18:53] <dr_willis> Regular Expressions is a LARGE topic with lots of interesting bits.
[18:53] <ramiro> yes, what I want is to find in a file, lines that begin with vowels
[18:53] <trigg3r> Dragonath: what was that supposed to do?
[18:53] <ramiro> any suggestions??
[18:54] <dr_willis>  that should be doable ramiro
[18:54] <ramiro> yes i know but i cant find the way
[18:54] <Dragonath> trigg3r: list all wireless networks in range
[18:54] <dr_willis> depending on the exact regular epression language/tool     somthing like    [aeiou]
[18:55] <ramiro> yes but that finds every line in the file that contains vowels
[18:55] <dr_willis> begginging of a line would be ^ (i think)
[18:55] <dr_willis> ^[aeiou]
[18:55] <trigg3r> Dragonath: under wlan0 it says "no results"
[18:55] <ramiro> i only need the ones that first letter is a vowel
[18:56] <Dragonath> trigg3r: and you are sure there is a wireless network in range?
[18:56] <ramiro> dr_willis: the problem with that is that ^ only search in the first space
[18:56] <ramiro> and if the line is "     a  sda asd "
[18:56] <ramiro> doestn match
[18:56] <ramiro> because the first character is an space
[18:57] <dr_willis> You have just changed your  'problem' then. :)
[18:57] <dr_willis> ^ , then 0 or more spaces, then a vowle.
[18:58] <dr_willis> That should be doable..  i just dont rember the details.
[18:58] <dr_willis> i forget how ya defind a space.
[18:58] <trigg3r> Dragonath: yeah i should pick up at least 5
[18:58] <dr_willis> Dont forget tabs also. :)
[18:58] <trigg3r> Dragonath: i had it working like 30 minutes ago that is what is so aggravating
[18:58] <Dragonath> trigg3r: what does iwconfig say?
[18:58] <Dragonath> I know exactly what you mean :)
[18:58] <Dragonath> I've been in the same situation
[18:59] <ramiro> yes, Im trying, but i cant reach
[18:59] <dr_willis> [ \t]+  I think finds one or more spaces/tabs
[18:59] <trigg3r> Dragonath:
[18:59] <trigg3r> wlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:""
[18:59] <trigg3r>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
[18:59] <trigg3r>           Tx-Power=27 dBm
[18:59] <trigg3r>           Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr=2346 B
[18:59] <trigg3r>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[18:59] <trigg3r>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[18:59] <trigg3r>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[19:00] <jussi01> !paste
 dont remember how??
[19:01] <dr_willis> ramiro,  google is our friend.. and i found the infio.
[19:02] <dr_willis> ^[:space:]*[AEIOU]
[19:02] <dr_willis> http://www.zytrax.com/tech/web/regex.htm
[19:02] <dr_willis> Depending on what regular expression/language you are using.. thats close..
[19:03] <ramiro> ok
[19:03] <dr_willis> * is '0 or more' of the prev pattern. Thats the trick to the # of spaces
[19:03] <dr_willis> + is ONE or more...  thats often a stumboing point
[19:03] <ramiro> yes i know that
[19:03] <trigg3r> Dragonath: also, i don't know if this has anything to do with it, but when i try and just start over ans i get to the step where i have to sudo insmod wl.ko it says "insmod: error inserting 'wl.ko': -1 File exists"
[19:03] <ramiro> now im searchin g how to represent sapce
[19:04] <dr_willis> ramiro,  its  [:space:]
[19:04] <dr_willis> :)
[19:04] <dr_willis> according to the posix stuff i am reading.
[19:04] <ramiro> so doesnt work
[19:05] <Dragonath> trigg3r: this sounds familiar - I remember having to manually change the interface name in some configuration file
[19:05] <dr_willis> depends on what/where/language you are using.. Not all of them use the same exact format.
[19:05] <dr_willis> i gotta run. bye
[19:05] <ramiro> im tryin it in the console but no
[19:08] <ramiro> anyone have knowledge in regular expressions???
[19:08] <mit> i am
[19:08] <mit> a bit
[19:13] <eagles051387> :)
[19:15] <Chris_Foster> Hi, I am running kubuntu 8.04 with compiz fusion and a intel chipset. I have the compiz taskbar program installed. When I log on, the fusion icon is gone and I dont have compiz running (its back to the kde manager). Any idea how to fix this?
[19:16] <ramiro_> hi ramiro
[19:16] <ramiro_> where are you from??
[19:21] <tomahto> hey everyone, a kubuntu traitor here :o)  - I was using Kubuntu hardy, and installed gnome with a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. I've been very happy with gnome for awhile now and would like to uninstall kde (I have kde 3 AND 4 installed...) - how can i uninstall kde the RIGHT way??
[19:21] <MrKennie> Chris_Foster: compiz is not officially supported in 8.04
[19:21] <Chris_Foster> I know, but I though someone might still have an idea
[19:21] <MrKennie> Chris_Foster: I think there's a #compiz-fusion channel or something
[19:21] <MrKennie> !compiz
[19:21] <Chris_Foster> okay, Ill look into that
[19:21] <Chris_Foster> thanks
[19:22] <MrKennie> ah there we go :)
[19:26] <HorD> where i cant config auto-mount for my fat32 partitions?
[19:26] <MrKennie> !removekde | tomahto
[19:28] <tomahto> hmmm, debfoster sounds complicated! lol
[19:29] <MrKennie> tomahto: there are some varying methods in the ubuntu forums too.
[19:29] <peace> anyone has ati radeon ant kubuntu 64bit? :)
[19:30] <tomahto> MrKennie: I've seen a lot of places just say sudo apt-get uninstall kubuntu-desktop - but is that enough?
[19:30] <MrKennie> tomahto: I'm afraid not
[19:30] <tomahto> didn't think so :-/
[19:30] <tomahto> *sigh*
[19:31] <MrKennie> tomahto: I'm sure debfoster isn't that hard
[19:33] <tomahto> MrKennie: no, but from what I can see it needs me to remember the names of all my favorite proggies - I'm sure to forget something lol
[19:33] <tomahto> <-- paranoid
[19:34] <MrKennie> tomahto: I guess you could find a core kde package and remove it.
[19:34] <MrKennie> that should remove everything else that depends on it
[19:34] <tomahto> that would be kubuntu-desktop
[19:34] <tomahto> no?
[19:34] <Dragnslcr> !puregnome | tomahto
[19:34] <MrKennie> no, that's a meta package
[19:35] <MrKennie> and there you go :)
[19:35] <f|uke> is running KDE and Gnome at the same time too much of a mess?
[19:35] <tomahto> it is in my menus :-/
[19:36] <tomahto> and the mixing of things... it's kinda preventing me from learning gnome - I don't always know what's what
[19:36] <f|uke> ahh. that sucks.
[19:36] <peace> anyone has ati radeon ant kubuntu 64bit? :) my drivers works kind of but i still cant use compiz - windows freezes..slow stuff
[19:36] <f|uke> Maybe I should have two seperate installs on my pc if I want to check out kubuntu
[19:36] <c_minus_minus> So, I installed KUbuntu, but for some reason, I get no system sounds.  I can play audio just fine, and everything's all set in the KDE control center to play a sound if something happens, but I still get no system sounds.
[19:37] <tomahto> f|uke: if it's just to check it out i'd go with a livecd
[19:37] <f|uke> looking at a live cd isnt enough,.. I want to see how I can tweak it
[19:38] <f|uke> Sparing 15 gigs for another OS is no problem
[19:38] <f|uke> besides, having a backup OS is probably good in case one goes fubar
[19:38] <tomahto> up to you - i THINK there's a way to install kuuntu and still keep the menus clean - but i'm not sure - check out psychocats maybe
[19:41] <tomahto> oh poop
[19:41] <tomahto> crapola
[19:41] <tomahto> *sigh*
[19:42] <tomahto> MrKennie: it worked fine - but it also uninstalled virtualbox :(
[19:43] <f|uke> oh, nice, found a tutorial on running them side by side without the mess http://tinyurl.com/5xzaym  ..its a year old tho. hope its still valid
[19:44] <steve__> test
[19:47] <benbloom> are there any cups/smb print masters around?
[19:47] <MrKennie> I'm no master but just ask.
[19:49] <benbloom> k MrKennie here's my problem http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3097961.0
[19:51] <benbloom> oops, didn't mean to do that. MrKennie u read my post?
[19:51] <MrKennie> benbloom: how did you install gutenprint?
[19:51] <benbloom> dled the deb
[19:51] <MrKennie> ok
[19:51] <benbloom> for i86 64
[19:52] <MrKennie> have you checked to make sure the ppd's have installed correctly?
[19:52] <benbloom> not sure what's ppds?
[19:54] <MrKennie> they are in /usr/share/ppd
[19:54] <benbloom> k let me check
[19:54] <MrKennie> PPD  ==  Postscript Printer Description
[19:55] <benbloom> right. thx. figured it was _______Printer Driver or something ;)
[19:55] <benbloom> output for ls /usr/share/ppd/:
[19:56] <benbloom> 1-local-admin  cups-included  custom   ghostscript  hpijs         pxljr
[19:56] <benbloom> 2-third-party  cups-pdf       foo2zjs  gutenprint   openprinting  splix
[19:56] <MrKennie> don't paste here :)
[19:56] <benbloom> k sorry
[19:57] <benbloom> not really security breach but probably a pain for everyone else
[19:57] <benbloom> I'mk getting this directory tree now
[19:57] <MrKennie> ok, head to gutenprint
[19:58] <benbloom> found the 595 entry
[19:58] <MrKennie> have you restarted cupsd since installing btw?
[19:58] <MrKennie> not sure if it is required, I said I was no master :)
[19:58] <benbloom> do I want en.ppd.gz or sim-en.ppd.gz?
[19:59] <benbloom> yeah I did cupsys restart which restarted cupsd
[20:01] <MrKennie> benbloom: sorry, were you doing this via system settings?
[20:02] <benbloom> i was. that was the prob
[20:03] <benbloom> it's still not showing up there. but I found out how to add it now
[20:03] <benbloom> just need to know
[20:03] <MrKennie> have you tried seeing if cups will list it?
[20:03] <benbloom> do I want en.ppd.gz or sim-en.ppd.gz?
[20:03] <MrKennie> using http://localhost:631/
[20:04] <benbloom> I've been away from *nix for several years (former OSX power user stuck on Winblowz machines)
[20:04] <MrKennie> dont worry too much about those. I just wanted to see if they got installed in the right place.
[20:04] <P3X-018> Everytime I want to remove KPDF it says that Kubuntu Desktop will also be removed, why is it that? Can't I only remove KPDF?
[20:04] <MrKennie> kubuntu-desktop is just a meta package
[20:05] <MrKennie> benbloom: head to http://localhost:631/ in a browser and try to add a printer that way.
[20:05] <P3X-018> MrKennie: So it doesn't remove the KDE Desktop?
[20:05] <jussi01> P3X-018: no
[20:06] <benbloom> yeah. I remember doing that a long time ago... thanks
[20:07] <jussi01> P3X-018: think of it like this, kubuntu-desktop is just a dummy package that depends on everything in it, if you remove something it depends on, usually it goes.
[20:07] <P3X-018> ok
[20:18] <benbloom> MrKennie: what would be my URI with samba if Workgroup is MSHOME and Server is SERVER and Printer is Emily
[20:20] <MrKennie> benbloom: iirc, smb://servername/printer should work.
[20:26] <Ayabara> anyone know if there's a place I can get Dell's Ubuntu-ISOs?
[20:28] <trenton_> Hello all. I'm trying to compile amarok2 from svn but i need libmysqld.a. Anyone know what package to install please?
[20:29] <benbloom> MrKennie: still unsure if I want the simplified version or not
[20:30] <MrKennie> benbloom: I guess you could experiment and see which works best for you.
[20:32] <benbloom> thanks MrKennie. I'm now up and running. I knew there was a better way. Still not sure why the system prefs wasn't showing it.
[20:33] <MrKennie> trenton_: libmysqlclient15-dev
[20:33] <MrKennie> benbloom: np. I'm not sure either but I did stumble on a bug with kde printer manager but that was for gutsy and not sure if it's related to your problem.
[20:39] <bluesceada> hey anyone can help howto connect to a cisco vpn with network-manager?
[20:39] <bluesceada> so far i have to use a special script and config
[20:39] <bluesceada> IPSec gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:39] <bluesceada> eh?
[20:39] <bluesceada> wrong paste...
[20:39] <bluesceada> it's a commandline like this: /usr/sbin/vpnc --script /etc/vpnc/cisco-vpnc-script.vpn /etc/vpnc/hs.conf
[20:40] <bluesceada> how can i use such with network-manager?
[20:40] <bluesceada> :/
[20:43] <benbloom> MrKennie: u are the man! Is that a bug in the system settings Printers section that should be submitted?
[20:44] <trenton_> MrKennie: I tried that. Still getting the same error.
[20:45] <MrKennie> benbloom: I think there a several duplicates of that bug.
[20:46] <MrKennie> benbloom: I read in one that kde printer manager is old or something.
[20:47] <MrKennie> trenton_: that's the only package that contains that file.
[20:48] <trenton_> MrKennie: OK Thanks. If in doubt....restart =)
[20:48] <MrKennie> trenton_: is this during configure or when compiling?
[20:48] <bluesceada> hey cool already found out myself about the dispatcher scripts
[20:48] <bluesceada> not as 100% good but nearly
[20:49] <trenton_> MrKennie: Config
[20:50] <MrKennie> trenton_: I would try configure --help and go through all the mysql options.
[20:50] <benbloom> MrKennie: U think it's fixed in kde4?
[20:50] <trenton_> MrKennie: It was compiling with mysql 5.? but I was told to update to 5.1
[20:50] <MrKennie> trenton_: for what reason?
[20:50] <trenton_> MrKennie: Amarok2 was not capatible
[20:51] <trenton_> MrKennie: Amarok2 was not compatible
[20:51] <MrKennie> benbloom: that I don't know because it has taken a "plug n play" approach and I've not yet seen a printer manager in it.
[20:51] <MrKennie> trenton_: ah ok
[20:52] <benbloom> plug n play is cool except I'm not sure how you would work it out with samba
[20:52] <MrKennie> benbloom: I say that, I think I actually mean kubuntu intrepid :)
[20:53] <MrKennie> benbloom: network printing configuration remains to be seen as far as I'm concerned.
[21:09] <ign0ramus> hey all.  what's the name of the panel in KDE4?
[21:10] <ign0ramus> i killed it to run kicker, but now i'd like to go back, but i don't know what it's called to run it again
[21:11] <_2> #kubuntu-kde4
[21:14] <_2> i think i need to insert a module to get sound working...   but i don't know which one.
[21:14] <eriksen> what soundcart do u have ?
[21:14] <eriksen> which
[21:15] <eriksen> Realtek ?
[21:15] <_2> eriksen i don't really know.   i think that box has ac97   maybe...
[21:15] <eriksen> oka.. then 2sek
[21:16] <_2> eriksen it's not a "default" *buntu btw
[21:16] <eriksen> \-
[21:17] <eriksen> _2 did u see my priv-msg ?
[21:18] <_2> yes i was just looking at the page.  but this is not "HDA"
[21:20] <eriksen> oka..
[21:20] <eriksen> then i cant hlp u ;)
[21:20] <eriksen> Gl m8
[21:22] <peace> am...anyone can help me install ati drivers? :)
[21:23] <favro> !ati
[21:24] <peace> i tried this before but i havent succeeded.. :) so now im looking for a guidance.. :( i got freshly installed kubuntu again..dont want to ruin it in any way..
[21:30] <carib909> Help with SAMBA and connecting to Vista please
[21:31] <peace> can anyone at least tell me how to install kubuntu restricted extras?
[21:31] <carib909> When I open my network application I get  an error message
[21:31] <kiba> anybody know how to attach a session?
[21:32] <carib909> I can ping both ways but cannot see from either computer
[21:32] <ooglebutte> peace: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:32] <peace> thanks ooglebutte because im tired of adept crashing because of java agreement.. :) i cant select ok in adept
[21:34] <peace> do i need to logout - login after this?? P.s. i was needed to log out login after installing this konversation client so i can see it and use it via kmenu
[21:35] <kiba> anybody plllllllllllllease tell how to attach a session?
[21:35] <kiba> I want to attach a session of tty1 to my emulator
[21:35] <ooglebutte> peace: not unless you need to restart X afaik
[21:35] <peace> what do you mean attach? :)
[21:35] <kiba> terminal emulator*
[21:35] <carib909> Please help me connect to Vista box
[21:35] <kiba> peace: I don't know..there is this program called dtach
[21:36] <kiba> and my irssi client is in this tty1 thingie
[21:36] <kiba> I thought I might be able to use dtach to see tty1 from the comfort of my terminal emulator
[21:36] <peace> i have no idea how to help..maybe you dont need that program that much :)
[21:47] <fritz_> hi all. do you know any channel about apache or/and myphpadmin configuration?
[21:49] <Under_Wraps> hi fritz_
[21:49] <Under_Wraps> idk :(
[22:06] <Denise> I'll crush you
[22:12] <ooglebutte> feeling a little pre-menstral there Denise ?
[22:13] <Denise> would surprised me
[22:13] <Denise> surprise
[22:14] <Denise> I m in pain
[22:14] <Denise> thats all
[22:17] <peace> im trying this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide but im stuck at one step..anyone want to help? :)
[22:19] <mats> how do I change my hostmask?
[22:21] <Alan_Lockwood> Hi.
[22:21] <Alan_Lockwood> Do you know if Kubuntu 8.10 BETA is dangerous for hardware?
[22:21] <Dragnslcr> I'd hope not
[22:22] <Denise> yes
[22:22] <radovich> peace: what is the problem?
[22:22] <peace> i dont know..
[22:22] <Denise> it can broke ur keyboard
[22:22] <Dragnslcr> It would take some pretty impressive coding to damage hardware
[22:22] <radovich> peace: what step is that?
[22:22] <Dragnslcr> !ops | Denise
[22:23] <nixternal> umm, did I miss something here?
[22:23] <LjL> Denise: this is a support channel, would you mind trying to stick to support questions/answers rather than "being funny"?
[22:23] <Dragnslcr> Just Denise spouting random garbage. Been happening for a couple weeks now
[22:23] <nixternal> I thought it was funny...support or not, that was funny!
[22:24] <nixternal> then again, I am drunk, so what do I know
[22:24] <Dragnslcr> Hehe
[22:24] <LjL> nixternal, back into your corner then
[22:24]  * nixternal goes back into his corner
[22:24] <roots_> hey there
[22:26] <compilerwriter> !version > compilerwriter
[22:27] <LjL> Denise: i see, as a matter of fact, you've already had a couple of warnings about your behavior in both #kubuntu and #ubuntu. well, this is the last one you'll get.
[22:37] <ubuntu> Hello! "modprobe sha256" leads to "Error inserting padlock_sha (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock-sha.ko): No such device". Can anybody help me?
[22:42] <peace> em..thanks to..i forgot whoome
[22:45] <tanner__> really dumb question...can anyone tell me where i can go to find out what thingsa like ubuntu "gutsy Gibbon" and stuff means?
[22:48] <kiba_> hello
[22:49] <roots_> hey
[22:49] <ooglebutte> tanner__: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ - lists all the releases by name - that is what gutsy gibbon is
[22:51] <Zakihashi> Got a question about, gfx drivers, and resolutions
[22:52] <ooglebutte> Zakihashi: you can just ask away in here :)
[22:52] <Zakihashi> Is there anyway to get 1920x1200 resolution in Kubuntu?
[22:53] <roots_> mmm same problem
[22:53] <ooglebutte> only if your monitor supports it
[22:53] <Zakihashi> And I got no ide if my drivers are installed, as it says  vesa
[22:53] <Zakihashi> It support it
[22:53] <ooglebutte> vesa is the failsafe driver that is used
[22:53] <zerothi1> why does  kill -kill `pgrep firefox` work from the command line but not as a command in a launcher?
[22:54] <Tamagotono> Zakihashi: try 'xrandr -s 1920x1200'
[22:54] <ooglebutte> I kill frefox-bin
[22:54] <ooglebutte> *firefox-bin
[22:54] <zerothi1> ooglebutte: from a launcher?
[22:55] <ooglebutte> zerothi1: no as a command - killing firefox doesn't work here
[22:55] <ooglebutte> I have to kill firefox-bin
[22:55] <Zakihashi> I found the place where I can change the resolution, but highest I can get is 1600x1200, but that looks wierd on my screen
[22:58] <Zakihashi> I get 1920x1200 in Vista, and Ubuntu, anyway I can make it show up on the list in Kubuntu? Also looking for my card in the place where I can change card, but it only got up to Geforce 8 series, and I got 9
[22:59] <aecioghost> hola
[23:00] <ooglebutte> Zakihashi: what did you do in ubuntu to get the right resolution?
[23:00] <Zakihashi> It was there after I installed
[23:01] <Zakihashi> so, nothing
[23:01] <aecioghost> alguien habla español
[23:01] <aecioghost> speak spanish
[23:01] <ooglebutte> are they the same versions ubuntu and kubuntu?
[23:01] <ooglebutte> !es | aecioghost
[23:02] <Zakihashi> yeah, ubuntu and kubuntu versions are the same
[23:04] <Pici> !flavors
[23:04] <aecioghost> hpña
[23:04] <aecioghost> hola
[23:05] <ooglebutte> Zakihashi: I would edit xorg.conf so it used the nv driver and then logout/in
[23:09] <Zakihashi> Ok, ill try that
[23:10] <Zakihashi> All I got to do is change kbd to nv?
[23:11] <ooglebutte> Zakihashi: did you try   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[23:11] <ooglebutte> it does bugger all now - that's why I edit the file
[23:12] <Zakihashi> No
[23:12] <ooglebutte> where it says vesa in the file change vesa to nv
[23:13] <ooglebutte> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:14] <Zakihashi> Nothing called vesa there
[23:15] <ooglebutte> what file are you editing? - and the command to open it please
[23:16] <Zakihashi> I just browsed to the area, and open it in kate
[23:16] <Zakihashi> xorg.conf
[23:19] <joshuajtl> arrgh can anyone help me out with virtualbox, (non ose) I'm trying to boot an iso image to install the machine.. but i get fatal no bootable mediem found. system halted
[23:21] <ooglebutte> Zakihashi: you need admin rights - try alt++F2 and type   kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:21] <joshuajtl> maybe i need to logout before i'm added to the vxboxusers group
[23:21] <ooglebutte> type   group   to check
[23:22] <Zakihashi> Yeah, thats the file I was looking at
[23:22] <Zakihashi> no vesa or nvidia or anything like it
[23:22] <ooglebutte> Zakihashi: can you paste it?
[23:22] <ooglebutte> !paste
[23:23] <Zakihashi> I guess the closest is
[23:23] <Zakihashi> Section "Device"
[23:23] <Zakihashi> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[23:23] <Zakihashi> 	Option		"UseFBDev"		"true"
[23:23] <Zakihashi> EndSection
[23:23] <Zakihashi> All of the file?
[23:24] <Zakihashi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/54028/
[23:25] <ooglebutte> Zakihashi: under the line Identifier "Configured Video Device" add a new line   Driver    "nv"
[23:25] <ooglebutte> Zakihashi: you need admin rights - try alt++F2 and type   kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:27] <Zakihashi> Ok
[23:27] <Zakihashi> So now I try to log in and out agian?
[23:27] <ooglebutte> yep
[23:29] <yad> hi
[23:29] <yad> i need help
[23:29] <yad> i cant change  my screen size?
[23:29] <ooglebutte> !fixres
[23:30] <zakihashi> Ehm... now my options is downed to 640x480 and 800x600 but it still runs at 1600x1200
[23:31] <ooglebutte> what does   xrandr   in konsole return?
[23:31] <ooglebutte> zakihashi: ^
[23:32] <zakihashi> ooglebutte: http://paste.ubuntu.com/54031/
[23:33] <yad> sorry but im really new at this
[23:33] <yad> i dont understand
[23:34] <yad> i have kubuntu but i dont find the menus u want me to find
[23:34] <ooglebutte> zakihashi:  To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - do this we might not have restarted the xserver
[23:35] <zakihashi> ok, ill try
[23:39] <biocom> buenas noches
[23:39] <yad> hello
[23:39] <biocom> hola yad
[23:39] <yad> I am totally new at this and i need to get some help with changing my screen size
[23:42] <yad> ? no one
[23:50] <Under_Wraps> yad__: have a look in your System Settings
[23:51] <yad__> hi how do i get youtube to wwwwork
[23:52] <Tamagotono> yad__: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:53] <Astral_Projectio> guys, which package contains font configuration tool (that is started with kcmshell fonts)?
[23:53] <yad__> tamagotono where do i type it
 then type konsole.  This will open up a console where you can type the previous command.
[23:55] <yad__> Yeah! thanks
[23:55] <Astral_Projectio> anyone?
[23:55] <yad__> and one more question. the adept manager dont download the uppdates automaticly? why?
[23:56] <Tamagotono> just the way it is designed.  no need to do download updates if you have already done so recently.
[23:57] <yad__> and an embarrasing question  how do i press ok in the console  at the  info text from sun
[23:58] <Tamagotono> use the <tab> key to highlight it then press <enter>
[23:58] <yad__> hehe thanks
[23:58] <Tamagotono> np
[23:59] <yad__> i see that this is learning how to use cpu all over again
[23:59] <yad__> but i like it so far
[23:59] <Tamagotono> it is well worth the effort.
[23:59] <zakihashi> ooglebutte: Still only got 640x480 and 800x600 as an option. But still running in 1600x1200