[01:02] <ompaul> {cYanide}, the reson people may not be answering is your use of braces, swap is always a good thing - has saved many a box in trouble - how much ram have you got
[01:02] <[Wiebel] > dskloet: yes
[01:02] <dskloet> wiebel: should it currently work?
[01:02] <[Wiebel] > it does for me :)
[01:02] <brenner> nalioth: haha </nelson>
[01:02] <dskloet> my X broke :(
[01:02] <[Wiebel] > i konw
[01:03] <[Wiebel] > read the error message
[01:03] <{cYanide}> i have 512 megs of ram, its just i tried running sacrifice via wine and it told me a warning about virtual memory and swap,
[01:03] <[LethAL] > My gnome broke
[01:03] <onkarshinde> One more question. How do i know if my video card supports any type of video acceleration?
[01:03] <vrln> dskloet: I am
[01:03] <{cYanide}> seeing as its an old game and runs fine on windows, i think it must be todo with swap space and not my actual ram
[01:03] <onkarshinde> And how do i enable it?
[01:03] <lsuactiafner> ompaul : i agree, even with 1G ram i never use swap but it kept my system stable under extreme loads to have a swap, used 600mb of it once
[01:03] <[LethAL] > onkarshinde: try running glxgears
[01:03] <brenner> lastnode: i've pm'ed the output
[01:03] <brenner> to you
[01:03] <dskloet> Wiebel:I got X working by changing the font paths in xorg.conf but now it hangs while loading gnome...
[01:03] <[Wiebel] > dskloet: use         Driver      "kbd"
[01:04] <[Wiebel] > for your keyboard
[01:04] <onkarshinde> [LethAL] : It runs
[01:04] <[Wiebel] > ow
[01:04] <nalioth> brenner: you cant send PMs either, you aren't identified
[01:04] <[LethAL] > onkarshinde: Is it very fast though?
[01:04] <[Wiebel] > that's odd
[01:04] <nalioth> no unidentified user may PM anyone else on freenode at this time
[01:04] <[Wiebel] > only thing i had to change was the keyboard driver
[01:04] <brenner> nalioth: yeah...just found out....
[01:04] <onkarshinde> [LethAL] : Quite. But I ahven't run it before. There fore fast is relative term
[01:04] <ompaul> {cYanide}, I asked a specific qustion for a reason, you saw no reason to answer the question, I did not do that for fun, call me strange for asking questions that may lead to me being able to help you but thats just me, ask anyone who has seen me do this before :)
[01:04] <sly> wanting lil help :) ( as useual ) , say ive got a file in ~/Stuff/File      how would i make it so in terminal when ever i type file it runs ~/Stuff/File
[01:04] <sly> ?
[01:04] <dskloet> wiebel: is the keyboard causing the problem?
[01:04] <[LethAL] > onkarshinde: I mean... way too fast... run in in the terminal and read the fps, should be able 200 FPS
[01:05] <brenner> nalioth: so you didn't get my reply to your pm? :)
[01:05] <{cYanide}> sorry?
[01:05] <[Wiebel] > dskloet: i don't know on you're X
[01:05] <{cYanide}> i answered
[01:05] <{cYanide}> 512
[01:05] <[Wiebel] > dskloet: but it was on mine
[01:05] <nalioth> brenner: not while you were unknown, no
[01:05] <ompaul> {cYanide}, you did not preface it with my nick so I did not see it :)
[01:05] <onkarshinde> [LethAL] : It is normally 3000 FPS
[01:05] <{cYanide}> ahh
[01:05] <ompaul> {cYanide}, 1G of swap to you
[01:05] <dskloet> wiebel: did you have problems with gnome or only with X?
[01:05] <[Wiebel] > dskloet: no issues with gnome
[01:06] <[LethAL] > onkarshinde: Something insane, yeah
[01:06] <[Wiebel] > dskloet: try a clean user
[01:06] <onkarshinde> [LethAL] : What does that mean?
[01:06] <{cYanide}> ompaul, 1g, ok will i be able to make it via a root terminal or will i have todo it some other way?
[01:06] <dskloet> wiebel: like adduser test?
[01:06] <[Wiebel] > yeah
[01:06] <ompaul> {cYanide}, have you any spare disk space?
[01:06] <[LethAL] > onkarshinde: Most likely yes
[01:07] <{cYanide}> ompaul, aye like 20 gig on this partition
[01:07] <onkarshinde> [LethAL] : Ok thanks.
[01:07] <brenner> nalioth: probably for the better, my joke wasn't funny. :)
[01:07] <ompaul> {cYanide} not in use
[01:07] <dskloet> wiebel: I could also try another wm but I don't know which. I'd like icewm but it's not in the repository yet.
[01:07] <{cYanide}> ompaul, im not "using" it as such, but it is part of this linux partition
[01:07] <[LethAL] > !tell me about upgrade2breezy
[01:08] <[Wiebel] > dskloet: first try another user
[01:08] <[Wiebel] > if that doesnt work , try another wm
[01:08] <dskloet> wiebel: I'll do, brb
[01:09] <ompaul> {cYanide}, it needs to be empty
[01:09] <ompaul> {cYanide}, not part of any system
[01:09] <ompaul> {cYanide}, for optimal performance
[01:12] <dskloet> wiebel: tried the clean user, all the same. Gnome seems to hang on the third icon of the splash screen (Nautilus). But I can use the right mouseb button to create a folder and some other useless stuff.
[01:13] <dskloet> Is there a simpel wm I could use instead of gnome? (in the breezy repository)
[01:13] <[Wiebel] > kde :)
[01:13] <alessio> sorry
[01:13] <[Wiebel] > windowmaker
[01:13] <nalioth> dskloet: enlightenment, xfce4, fluxbox, and many more
[01:14] <dskloet> I tried apt-get install windowmaker but the package was unknown...
[01:14] <alessio> i have risize 20gb of windows with hoary partition tool
[01:14] <[Wiebel] > but gnome should work
[01:14] <[Wiebel] > works fine here
[01:14] <alessio> to 10 gb for win + 10gb for ubuntu
[01:14] <alessio> grub does'nt load windows
[01:14] <alessio> ntldr missing
[01:14] <ompaul> {cYanide},  resizing is supposed to be possible, however you may loose all your data - if you have only installed I would suggest a reinstall with 1G for swap 10G for home and 9G for / tell the partition manager about theim in the order / swap /home
[01:15] <ompaul> {cYanide}, sorry I have no better ideas on that one
[01:15] <dskloet> Gnome doesn't work here :(. But anything that works is good for now...
[01:15] <{cYanide}> ompaul, ya oh well. i think i will leave it, seeing as it only seems to effect wine and i dont use that much
[01:15] <ompaul> {cYanide}, how long is the machine installed?
[01:16] <ompaul> {cYanide}, you can add ram without reconfiguring that is one thing :)
[01:16] <nanotech> i'm trying to upgrade to Breezy, i have a problem with xorg complaining about 'fixed' fonts. Do you have an idea on what i must have forgotten to install/update ?
[01:16] <alessio> any idea
[01:16] <xukun> is there some kind of guide for installing multimedia on Breezy
[01:16] <[Wiebel] > nanotech: try pasting the error
[01:16] <ompaul> !tell xukun about restricted
[01:16] <ompaul> !tell xukun about repos
[01:16] <nalioth> nanotech: in a pastebin
[01:16] <alessio> ntldr missing ... what can i do?
[01:16] <Kuolio> xukun: use the hoary guide and ubuntu wiki
[01:17] <nalioth> alessio: go get one from a friend
[01:17] <{cYanide}> ompaul, its actually the gfs machine some dell 2400 , its not the uber beast im usedtoo, but i moved so it has todo till i get a new
[01:17] <dskloet> nalioth: apt can't find any of the wm's you named :(
[01:17] <ompaul> xukun, read the messages from ubotu they will help
[01:17] <nanotech> nalioth: i can't because X is running without fonts (only firefox seems to work)
[01:17] <alessio> nalioth, i'm inside sheet :(
[01:18] <xukun> thanks ompaul , Kuolio
[01:18] <dskloet> nonatech: I could solve that problem by changing the fontpaths in xorg.conf
[01:18] <alessio> why does'nt grub load windows?
[01:18] <dskloet> nanotech: from /usr/lib/* to /usr/share/*
[01:18] <dskloet> nanotech: but now I'm stuck with a not working gnome...
[01:18] <nalioth> nanotech: are you familiar with the terminal?
[01:19] <nanotech> nalioth: yes
[01:19] <nanotech> dskloet: trying to cp them
[01:19] <wingman920> help me plz. just installed ubuntu and it stopped at 6% Retrieving Bsdutils....ive burned the dowmloaded iso image twice at 8x speed.
[01:19] <brenner> alessio: more info needed
[01:19] <brenner> alessio: ie any errors?
[01:19] <nalioth> nanotech: do a apt-cache seach fonts and install the xfonts-blah
[01:20] <wingman920> help me plz. just installed ubuntu and it stopped at 6% Retrieving Bsdutils....ive burned the dowmloaded iso image twice at 8x speed.
[01:20] <alessio> any error..
[01:20] <alessio> only ntldr
[01:20] <lsuactiafner> wingman920 : iso might be currupted
[01:20] <dskloet> nanotech: cp what? you can edit the file
[01:20] <nanotech> nalioth: i did, only xfonts-*-transcoded couldn't be installed
[01:20] <ompaul> wingman920, breezy / hoary and don't repeat your telling over 400 people the same thing in seconds not good
[01:20] <alessio> after risize with hoarty tool
[01:20] <lsuactiafner> and wingman920 : wait 20 minutes before repeating your questions
[01:20] <nanotech> dskloet: it's already updated
[01:20] <alessio> an installation on secon partition
[01:20] <nalioth> nanotech: oh my. did you say 'breezy'?
[01:20] <wingman920> whats the best site for the good iso download
[01:20] <nanotech> nalioth: i did
[01:20] <dskloet> nanotech: and still the font is missing?
[01:20] <nalioth> nanotech: wait for the next update
[01:21] <nanotech> dskloet: yes
[01:21] <nalioth> nanotech: the xorg has been undergoing major bug fixes lately
[01:21] <lsuactiafner> wingman920 : any site on the ubuntu mirror list, your transfer might have been currupted for various reasons
[01:21] <nanotech> nalioth: alright, i hope it will be soon :)
[01:21] <dskloet> So is there any working wm in the breezy repository?
[01:21] <[Wiebel] > dskloet: kde
[01:21] <sauli> where i can find ubuntu boot floppies?
[01:22] <ompaul> dskloet, lots which one do you want to try - and have you got the repos installed?
[01:22] <[Wiebel] > windowmaker
[01:22] <[Wiebel] > etc
[01:22] <ompaul> dskloet, come to think of it which video card have you got?
[01:22] <nalioth> sauli: there are none
[01:22] <dskloet> wiebel: it says package unknown on those...
[01:22] <mdke> any ideas how I can turn my bluetooth radio off?
[01:22] <[Wiebel] > dskloet: not for me
[01:22] <dskloet> ompaul: asus riva tnt
[01:22] <[Wiebel] > i have them all
[01:22] <[Wiebel] > use multiverse
[01:22] <sauli> nalioth: oh really? i have weird problem in my new computer, it can boot live cd but not ubuntu install cd
[01:22] <nanotech> well thx all for your help, i need to go now and i'll try to fix it myself waiting for the update
[01:23] <ompaul> dskloet, can you put the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list into http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:23] <nalioth> sauli: check the md5 of your burnt disk and your iso image you used to burn it
[01:23] <dskloet> ompaul: I don't understand. (but I think I forget to add multiverse indeed)
[01:23] <sauli> i tried many cds and they are official cds
[01:23] <brownie17> why doesn't totem play dvd's?
[01:24] <dskloet> what is paste.ubuntulinux.nl?
[01:24] <brenner> !dvd
[01:24] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[01:24] <brownie17> dskloet, you paste stuff in there and give hte people in here the link
[01:24] <mdke> dskloet, it is a website which allows you to paste long outputs and show them to others
[01:24] <nalioth> dskloet: where you can paste things and not disrupt the channel
[01:24] <ompaul> dskloet, a place where you can paste lots of data so others can view it
[01:24] <nalioth> sauli: some of the official cds werent burnt properly
[01:24] <ugo> dskloet: paste.ubuntu.com
[01:24] <nalioth> sauli: or pressed properly
[01:25] <dskloet> I see, but you need a mouse working to paste right?
[01:25] <brenner> geeze...four replies, all saying the same thing. :D
[01:25] <mdke> ugo, ?
[01:25] <sauli> ok, then i just have to try with olla my cds :/
[01:25] <ugo> dskloet: ctrl-x cut ctrl-v paste
[01:25] <sauli> but thank you nalioth
[01:25] <mdke> ugo, there is no such url
[01:25] <dskloet> ugo: and selecting without a mouse?
[01:25] <nalioth> sauli: np
[01:26] <ugo> dskloet: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[01:26] <nalioth> sauli: there is a self test in the 'advanced options' of the installer
[01:26] <dskloet> ugo: I think I can manage in vim... thanks anyway
[01:26] <ugo> dskloet: sorri!
[01:26] <reiki> crimsun awake?
[01:26] <ompaul> dskloet, tell you what dcc it to me
[01:26] <xukun> isn't there also breezy-extra repository, or should I Just use the hoary-extra repostitory?
[01:26] <nalioth> reiki: havent seen crimsun in a while
[01:26] <reiki> okies... thanks
[01:26] <mdke> he is here
[01:26] <reiki> I just got up
[01:26] <nalioth> xukun: breezy wont have an extra repos until after its release
[01:27] <Cryptid> What is metacity, GTK 2.x, And GMD Themes
[01:27] <ompaul> nalioth, he was here yesterday
[01:27] <ugo> yeah....crismun ditched me in the middle of our openafs debugging jam session
[01:27] <xukun> I see
[01:27] <dskloet> ompaul: dcc? You know, I'm going to add multiverse and then return here...
[01:27] <nalioth> ompaul: reiki seeks him now
[01:27] <brenner> he was in here earlier
[01:27] <ugo> why u....?!!!?
[01:27] <ompaul> dskloet, and after that apt-get udpate
[01:27] <dskloet> ompaul: of course ;)
[01:27] <reiki> I just wanted to thank him for helping me get my mic working on my turtle beach santa cruz card. That was like.... one last hurdle thing
[01:27] <dskloet> ompaul: but thanks for reminding :)
[01:28] <nalioth> reiki: /msg him, he'll getit
[01:28] <charish17> hello ... im new here ... can ask some help?
[01:28] <nalioth> charish17: ask away
[01:28] <ompaul> !tell charish17 about as
[01:28] <ompaul> !tell charish17 about ask
[01:28] <ubuntulnx> brenner, im looking for cpu temperature in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone, but there is nothing there..
[01:28] <ompaul> nalioth, pm?
[01:28] <ugo> !tell ugo about ask
[01:29] <ugo> ok...smart question
[01:29] <brenner> ubuntulnx: yeah, i have no clue about temperature monitoring, sorry.....searched the forum?
[01:29] <ubuntulnx> yep
[01:30] <ugo> i had this problem compiling the openafs kernel module yesterday
[01:30] <brownie17> can somebody help me, i cannot find libdvdcss in synaptic, how do i open the hoary extra repos, i thought i had allready. will someone tell me if i have?
[01:30] <ubuntulnx> yep brenner, found lots of stuff re. laptop users, but nothing that i see serves sofar
[01:30] <ugo> on hoary...apparently its been bug listed already....
[01:30] <nalioth> !tell brownie17 about repos
[01:30] <ugo> the bug lister mentioned that he's running a release candidate that functions properly on his system....
[01:31] <reiki> cool... now to find a fchromatic instrument tuner for linux and I should be all set :)
[01:31] <reiki> "chromatic"
[01:31] <charish17> just installed ubuntu ...
[01:31] <ubuntulnx> brenner, do you know how the dsdt file is generated?
[01:31] <nalioth> reiki: ask in #kubuntu about the tuner
[01:31] <charish17> is it gui? or command line
[01:31] <nalioth> charish17: you should see a nice gui
[01:31] <reiki> nalioth: there's a tuner well known?  okies... thanks
[01:31] <charish17> im also new to linux
[01:31] <[Wiebel] > anyone seen firefox 1.0.7 packages for ubuntu?
[01:31] <dskloet> ompaul: I did something wrong, adding multiverse is just copying the two lines and changing main to multiverse, right?
[01:32] <ugo> apparently its debian and not ubuntu....my question now is can i run a debian package on ubuntu like afs which is somewhat kernel tied and not run into problems....
[01:32] <charish17> hmmm
[01:32] <brenner> ubuntulnx: seeing as how i don't know what that file is...probably not
[01:32] <charish17> i ended up in a command line
[01:32] <nalioth> ugo: it is not advised to use debian pkgs on ubuntu
[01:32] <ompaul> dskloet, I just add the word to the end of the line, but thats me :)
[01:32] <nalioth> charish17: at the console, type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" if you want the gui
[01:32] <dskloet> ompaul: after restricted?
[01:32] <ubuntulnx> brenner, ok.. its the file that seems to describe the systems hardware to acpi
[01:32] <ompaul> dskloet, you got it
[01:33] <charish17> ok i'll try it
[01:33] <ompaul> ugo, better to build from source if it is not available natively on Ubuntu
[01:33] <dskloet> ompaul: on the existing lines or a copies of them?
[01:33] <ompaul> dskloet, both the same - I do it all on the one line
[01:33] <mirak> is there a way to not have kde applicatios showing in the gnome menu ?
[01:34] <ugo> ompaul: riiiighhtt...now what didn't i think of that
[01:34] <ompaul> dskloet, I am going to get the bot to send you info
[01:34] <ompaul> ugo, no idea
[01:34] <ompaul> !tell dskloet about repos
[01:34] <ompaul> dskloet, /msg ubotu restricted also given you are there
[01:35] <dreameen> hey folks
[01:35] <dreameen> tell me
[01:35] <dreameen> why ubuntu doesnt recognize my ipod?
[01:35] <dskloet> ompaul, there's now a magenta 3 on my screen... (i'm new to irc)
[01:35] <hnj> hi there
[01:36] <cafuego_> dreameen: Is it mac formatted? is it set to automount in the prefs, did you initialised it with gtkpod?
[01:36] <dskloet> ompaul: I'd like to paste my source.list but I don't think I have a copy/paste buffer without X...
[01:36] <nalioth> dskloet: hit ctrl-3
[01:36] <dreameen> cafuego, mac formatted? set to automount?
[01:36] <ugo> ompaul: its prolly because im brain fuzzed from this operating systems assignment
[01:36] <nalioth> dskloet: ctrl-2 to return here
[01:37] <ugo> ompaul: thanks though....ill work on it right away
[01:37] <dreameen> cafuego, the problem is, i cant see appropriate mountpoint for it in /dev
[01:37] <reiki> nalioth: thanks for that lead on the tuners... appreciated
[01:37] <dskloet> ompaul: ok, I found the info you sent me through the bot, thank, I'll have a look.
[01:37] <nalioth> reiki: i'm here to help (even if i have no clue what you're talking about)
[01:38] <reiki> heheh
[01:38] <dskloet> nalioth, thanks
[01:38] <nalioth> dskloet: np
[01:38] <dskloet> nalioth, it was alt instead of ctrl by the way
[01:38] <brownie17> can anybody help me, when i watch dvd's they always go out of sync. how can i set my system to use the ALSA sound system instead of ESD? or is that not the problem?
[01:38] <nalioth> dskloet: i run a mac, i just guessed
[01:38] <dskloet> nalioth, :)
[01:38] <nalioth> brownie17: you set your dma?
[01:39] <ompaul> ugo, what is the operating systems assignment?
[01:39] <brownie17> nalioth: yes, DMA is activated on all drives
[01:40] <nalioth> brownie17: then we're out of my field
[01:40] <brownie17> nalioth: what do you know about ESD and ALSA?
[01:40] <brownie17> nalioth, and what is GTK+?
[01:41] <cafuego_> brownie17: The widget set for Gnome. (Buttons, windows, sliders, everything)
[01:41] <dskloet> universe if also nice...
[01:41] <dskloet> is
[01:41] <nalioth> brownie17: gtk+ is a widget set (a programming package that tells the programs how to appear)
[01:41] <Krneki> hay i have problem
[01:41] <Krneki> i install apache
[01:41] <nalioth> brownie17: i know nothing about sound
[01:41] <Krneki> and now i can't remove itt
[01:41] <Krneki> it wrotes that something is currupted
[01:41] <brownie17> cafuego_, what do you know about the ESD and ALSA?
[01:42] <Krneki> i can' install or reinstall or remove anything
[01:42] <Krneki> can't
[01:42] <dskloet> now installing icewm, finally :)
[01:42] <cafuego_> brownie17: I know esd is a sound server and alsa a driver set.
[01:42] <ompaul> brownie17, if you use firefox and put this in the little box on the top right of the browser beside the magnifing glass >> define gtk+<< you will get lots of good info
[01:42] <Krneki> i think it is somekind of a bug
[01:42] <Krneki> please help
[01:42] <brownie17> cafuego_, i beleive there is a way you can set esd to noly run when it is needed?
[01:42] <lastnode> is switching between gnome and kde easy?
[01:43] <brownie17> ompaul, THANX
[01:43] <lastnode>  !backorders
[01:43] <ubotu> lastnode: Not a clue
[01:43] <ugo> ompaul: game that executes in kernel mode
[01:43] <lastnode> !backorders
[01:43] <ugo> ompaul: minesweeper
[01:43] <alienacion> er irc.tin.it
[01:43] <dreameen> that simply sux, ubuntu doesnt recognize my ipod!!
[01:43] <nalioth> lastnode: yes it is
[01:43] <keikoz> dreameen life's hard
[01:43] <dskloet> question: I gnome hang and the only way out I saw was ctrl-alt-backspace, but that also killed X. Was there another way which would just bring me back to gdm?
[01:43] <nalioth> dreameen: it will, but nobody in here knows how to help you now
[01:43] <brownie17> !ESD
[01:43] <ubotu> methinks esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.
[01:43] <lastnode> nalioth: think i might download it. how do you switch though? with synaptic?
[01:43] <brownie17> !ALSA
[01:43] <ubotu> I heard alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[01:43] <lyndon> could some one help me on how to access my computer into another computer ?
[01:44] <ugo> ompaul: id like the afs because i could mount my filespace directly on my laptop
[01:44] <nalioth> lastnode: at your login screen. click 'sessions'
[01:44] <ompaul> ugo, that I did not follow at all
[01:44] <nalioth> lyndon: install "openssh-server"
[01:44] <brenner> dskloet: wait a while and gdm should reload iirc
[01:44] <dskloet> brenner, but it was still trying to load gnome, but it hang...
[01:45] <lyndon> where  can i find openssh-server ?
[01:45] <ompaul> brownie17, you could also do /msg ubotu alsa and it would message you back thus meaning that people whould not have had so much happening which can be real hard for new users who are trying to follow a conversation
[01:45] <Sith_Tux> afternoon people
[01:45] <[Wiebel] > anyone any idea in what file firefox stores passwords?
[01:45] <ompaul> lyndon, dropbear is the one i use
[01:45] <brenner> dskloet: it hangs everytime gnome loads?
[01:45] <ugo> ompaul: the operating systems assignment is a game that executes in kernel mode
[01:45] <dskloet> brenner, yes
[01:45] <lyndon> how to install ?
[01:45] <Krneki> hay how to fix currupted packegaes
[01:46] <nalioth> !tell lyndon about synaptic
[01:46] <brenner> dskloet: usually a driver issue...
[01:46] <ugo> ompaul: were supposed to use it to test two interrupt handlers we wrote as well as a console driver
[01:46] <dskloet> brenner, not really, I can use my right mouse button...
[01:46] <ompaul> ugo, okay, however games in kernel space is just a bad idea :)
[01:46] <david_> i have a problem with updating firefox
[01:46] <david_> can anybody help me
[01:46] <dskloet> brenner, but the splash screen stays and I can't really do anything
[01:46] <Sith_Tux> i keep getting a on screen display: display changed: lcd off ....... what is the problem?
[01:46] <ORiON2012> [Wiebel] : I think it stores them hashed in ~/.mozilla/firefox/[profile] /signons.txt
[01:46] <ompaul> ugo, but for an assignment wellllll maybe
[01:46] <nalioth> david_: ask a logical question, please
[01:47] <ugo> ompaul: come on we all know that...the objective of the assignment is to test the drivers thoroughly....were going to depend on them on a more realistic assignment...
[01:47] <dskloet> But I just wondered whether there's something like ctrl-alt-backspace which brings me back to gdm istead of killing X.
[01:47] <david_> ubuntu wont let me replace the files in the firefox folder
[01:48] <nalioth> david_: you should update firefox using apt-get
[01:48] <dskloet> brenner, And is startx the way to go back to X and gdm?
[01:48] <david_> ok
[01:48] <david_> thanks
[01:48] <ugo> ompaul: but still id totally dig kernel-quake...! :-)
[01:48] <nalioth> dskloet: if it's hung, killin it is the only way
[01:48] <dskloet> nalioth, but how do I kill it? I can't get a terminal at that moment.
[01:48] <lastnode> how can i see the freespace i have on my linux partition?
[01:49] <fredforfaen> df -h
[01:49] <dskloet> lastnode, xdiskusage
[01:49] <Sith_Tux> anyone had this problem?
[01:49] <nalioth> dskloet: ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:49] <ORiON2012> dskloet: CTRL + ALT + F1, or try CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE to kill X
[01:49] <lastnode> dskloet: bash commenad not found
[01:50] <dskloet> nalioth, I thought you ment killing the gnome-session...
[01:50] <brownie17> a guide on the ubuntu forums has told me to restart my comp, wtf!?!?! everytime i say restart in here i get my head blown off
[01:50] <dskloet> lastnode, install it...
[01:50] <lastnode> !backorders
[01:50] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, lastnode
[01:50] <nalioth> brownie17: so restart. on *nix boxen, restarts are not as necessary as on windows boxen
[01:50] <lastnode> i forget that command
[01:50] <brownie17> ugo, :) hahaha
[01:50] <lastnode> i need to add to sources.list to get smeg
[01:51] <jsubl2> i want to  put breezy on my mac..  will the installer make room or do i need to run hdutils first or do i have to reload panther
[01:51] <ORiON2012> jsubl2: installer can format for you
[01:51] <brenner> !backports
[01:51] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[01:51] <jsubl2> thank ORiON2012
[01:52] <brenner> lastnode: i was wondering why you kept trying backorders. lol
[01:52] <ugo> brownie17: just making sure we get the job done right :-)
[01:52] <ompaul> !tell lastnode about backports
[01:52] <lastnode> sigh, thanks guys
[01:53] <nalioth> jsubl2: you have a ubuntu livecd?
[01:53] <jsubl2> no just the install cd
[01:53] <nalioth> jsubl2: the installer should give you the option to make some room
[01:53] <jsubl2> nalioth, ok.. will give it a shot
[01:53] <eSPete> when i want to use mplayer i have to deactivate sound in gnome, how do i make mplayer not wanting the ethinre soundcoar for itself?
[01:53] <nalioth> jsubl2: is it on another puter then the one you're on now?
[01:53] <brenner> jsubl2: it's a little hidden though
[01:54] <brenner> this was written for windows systems iirc, but still might be useful:
[01:54] <ORiON2012> eSPete: use a sound daemon like ESD
[01:54] <brenner> !resize
[01:54] <ubotu> resize is, like, totally, The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to make space to install Ubuntu.  Even so you should backup important files first.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning
[01:54] <lyndon> nalioth ther is no "openssh-server" in synaptic
[01:54] <[Wiebel] > hmz
[01:54] <rob^> pfft no it cant
[01:54] <[Wiebel] > the latest mplayerplugin seems broken
[01:54] <dreameen> k, got it working, i had to unload and then load these 3 modules manually: ieee1394, ohci1394, sbp2
[01:54] <nalioth> lyndon: really?
[01:55] <nalioth> !tell lyndon about sources
[01:55] <{cYanide}> erm if i right click on a windows exe, i get the option to open with cedega, but ive removed that since, is there a way i can remove that option
[01:55] <dreameen> nasty hack..i know, but hey it works;)
[01:55] <ORiON2012> lyndon: yes there is
[01:55] <{cYanide}> i removed it via the package manager, so im not sure why its still there
[01:55] <ORiON2012> lyndon: in main
[01:55] <florg> wow. ubuntu is stunning!!!
[01:56] <lastnode> florg: heh :)
[01:56] <brenner> {cYanide}: right-click > preoperties > open with
[01:56] <ugo> florg: and so is jessica alba
[01:56] <nalioth> jsubl2: parted (the thing doin the resizing) will work fine on your hfs+ partition
[01:56] <brenner> rob^: no it can't resize?
[01:56] <eSPete> ORiON2012, do i have to setup mplayer.conf or change the default soundriver for my system?
[01:56] <florg> approximately :-)
[01:56] <dean> hay
[01:57] <ORiON2012> eSPete: yup
[01:57] <jsubl2> nalioth, ok  booting the cd now.  2 systems 1 monitor
[01:57] <eSPete> ORiON2012, both?
[01:57] <nalioth> jsubl2: cool
[01:57] <ORiON2012> eSPete: try mplayer -ao help
[01:57] <lyndon> mmmm
[01:57] <{cYanide}> thing is, i want to remove the option from the right click menu
[01:57] <lyndon> its hard to understand
[01:57] <lyndon> :(
[01:57] <brenner> {cYanide}: is there a cedega option there?
[01:58] <gerarcone> how can i do to uninstall realplayer
[01:58] <gerarcone> ?
[01:58] <{cYanide}> ya
[01:58] <ORiON2012> eSPete: oh, sorry, no just in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[01:58] <brenner> {cYanide}: remove it. :)
[01:58] <brenner> {cYanide}: that's where the menu looks for applicable apps
[01:58] <ORiON2012> eSPete: if you have a ~/.mplayer.conf that will override the system settings
[01:58] <lastnode> you have 111 software updates
[01:58] <lastnode> should I update?
[01:59] <p0windah> yes
[01:59] <r3nz0rk> guys is there's a easy way to install wine on ubuntu
[01:59] <r3nz0rk> guys is there's a easy way to install wine on ubuntu
[01:59] <rob^> ubotu no resize is the Ubuntu installer cannot resize NTFS partitions, for more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[01:59] <ubotu> rob^: okay
[01:59] <lastnode> r3nz0rk: asking once is generally a good practice
[01:59] <r3nz0rk> ok
[01:59] <eSPete> ORiON2012, i do but changeing ao=esd does not help, on term it still says something about alsa and the video does not start before i deactivate sound in gnome
[01:59] <gerarcone> nobody can help me?
[01:59] <r3nz0rk> so please answer my question?
[01:59] <rob^> brenner, no it cant
[02:00] <nalioths_dog> r3nz0rk: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[02:00] <p0windah> r3nz0rk: wine is not easy to install on most distributions
[02:00] <brenner> rob^: yes it can
[02:00] <p0windah> r3nz0rk: you can try the paid support from transgaming and others though
[02:00] <ORiON2012> eSPete: can you msg me the exact error?
[02:00] <r3nz0rk> so what can i do to do so...
[02:00] <rob^> brenner, no, actually it cant
[02:00] <dean> am i NEED help, when i want to install or remove any package i get error that some of packes are corrupted and that i have to them first, ok i go and click repair packeages and then i get error pkgProblemResolver: that some packeges are not able to repair, that some files are need by some else and that can't be fixed. PLEASE HELP
[02:00] <rob^> brenner, trust me I've tried
[02:01] <r3nz0rk> is there's a free of charge?
[02:01] <brenner> rob^: that's news to me....i've installed ubuntu on 3 windows machines, all using the resize feature in the partitioning stage
[02:01] <nalioth> dean: read what ubotu sent you, and paste your errors
[02:01] <dean> ok
[02:01] <lastnode> how cen i get a gui app to load on startup and then minimize to teh tray?
[02:01] <p0windah> r3nz0rk: this is one of the free of charge places, where you rely on people "wanting" to help you
[02:01] <eSPete> ORiON2012, i dont ge an error, the last output from term is AF_pre: af format: 2 bps, 1 ch, 44100 hz, little endian signed int
[02:01] <eSPete> AF_pre: 44100Hz 1ch Signed 16-bit (Little-Endian)
[02:01] <eSPete> alsa-init: got device=0, subdevice=0
[02:01] <eSPete> alsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default
[02:01] <eSPete>  and the noting happen until i deativate sound under system/sound
[02:01] <r3nz0rk> is ubuntu also support all kinds of printer
[02:01] <rob^> well ditto, I have tried it with horay and you cannot
[02:02] <p0windah> r3nz0rk: if you annoy the hell out of the channel, no-one will "want" to help you
[02:02] <dean> hm how to i change language in ubuntu
[02:02] <rob^> it tries to, but nothing happens
[02:02] <nalioth> eSPete: dont paste in here
[02:02] <nalioth> eSPete: use a pastebin (read the /topic)
[02:02] <brenner> rob^: how did you do it?
[02:02] <nalioth> lastnode: system > prefs > session
[02:03] <dean> how to change language?
[02:03] <brownie17> is anybody here familiar with webmin?
[02:03] <WildZeck> hi all
[02:03] <sertmann> im sort of state of panic, because im apparently ment to return my labtop to my work today, and i really need to transfer files my files to my PC, samba is up and running apparently, but it asks for a password, where neither my primary accounts, or guest accounts seems to work, where do i set those passwords?
[02:03] <lastnode> thanks nalioth
[02:04] <lastnode> what was that free space viewer called again?
[02:04] <lastnode> bah i gotta write these things down :)
[02:04] <eSPete> lastnode, df -h
[02:04] <nalioth> lastnode: install discus or xdiskusage
[02:04] <WildZeck> sertmann,  use the share mode in a path with a 777 right if you are hurry
[02:04] <brownie17> i need help desperately, i need to use webmin to disable eneterprise volume management system just so my damn computer will start up, because it keeps hanging on that, and i want to know, can webmin be run from the live cd? and how do i set a root password in live cd?
[02:05] <nalioth> brownie17: i have another half answer: there is no root pass on the livecd
[02:05] <brownie17> nalioth: hm... ok
[02:05] <rob^> brenner, well apparently it can.. but it must not 100% of the time
[02:05] <ugo> brownie17: id hazard to guess yess you can run webmin from the live cd....but since it executes solely in memory ud have to install it every time
[02:05] <eSPete> ORiON2012, should i post it in the pastebin too?
[02:05] <brownie17> !webmin
[02:05] <ubotu> To use webmin with ubuntu you have to add a webmin-root account with : /usr/share/webmin/changepass.pl /etc/webmin root "password", or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount
[02:05] <ORiON2012> eSPete: that would imply that it's still using alsa
[02:05] <nalioth> eSPete: yes
[02:05] <brenner> rob^: b/c i have 3 dualboot computers here, all have had their original NTFS partition resized, and i haven't used partition magic, qtparted or anything else other than the installer's partitioner
[02:05] <ORiON2012> eSPete: alsa-init is the first clue
[02:06] <lastnode> i missed that again
[02:06] <lastnode> bah, irssi cant scroll
[02:06] <ORiON2012> eSPete: try mplayer -ao esd somemovie.mpg
[02:06] <brenner> rob^: did you select the size value?
[02:06] <rob^> brenner, I dunno, its been a while
[02:06] <sertmann> WildZeck, still asks for a username and password when i open the computer in Windows, any ideas
[02:06] <Sly> is it just me, or when using esd in xine/mplayer after 5/10mins the audio becomes outa syn
[02:06] <Sly> but when not using esd it plays fine all way through ?
[02:07] <ompaul> lastnode, press scroll lock button and shift page up
[02:07] <WildZeck> sertmann, are you sure youre using share mode in samba?
[02:07] <p0windah> Sly: that could be a buffering problem
[02:07] <WildZeck> sertmann, can i paste you my samaba file in private ?
[02:07] <rob^> brenner, word is that it does, but it doesn't always work.
[02:07] <p0windah> sertmann: if you are in a rush, it might be quicker using ftp
[02:07] <lesy> hello
[02:07] <Sly> never thought of that =x
[02:07] <brenner> rob^: yeah, just saw this: "If, when you are trying to shrink your partition, you are not given the option to enter a smaller size, it is because the installer does not feel it is able to resize the partition. Possibly because it thinks it is full, is currupt, or has some other problems that it cannot solve."
[02:08] <lyndon> nalioth i already install it what next ?
[02:08] <brenner> rob^: maybe i've been lucky
[02:08] <lastnode> thanks ompaul
[02:08] <nalioth> rob^: i've seen ntfs not resize due to corrupt sectors, but scandisk corrected the problem
[02:08] <ompaul> lastnode, np
[02:08] <cute_rolly2005> hi
[02:08] <brownie17> anybody, should webmin be in synaptic?
[02:08] <rob^> brenner, no it still gave me the option, but it didn't actually work when I went with it
[02:08] <nalioth> lyndon: do you know the IP of your computer?
[02:08] <cute_rolly2005> asl pls
[02:09] <nalioth> brownie17: ubotu told you
[02:09] <lyndon> yup
[02:09] <lastnode> im pondering installing kde
[02:09] <brenner> rob^: you got to the point where you enter a new size?
[02:09] <lastnode> how big is it?
[02:09] <lastnode> i mean the base
[02:09] <lastnode> i like the liteness of gnome though
[02:09] <nalioth> lyndon: what OS is on the other puter?
[02:09] <lyndon> OS ?
[02:09] <rob^> brenner, like I said, I'm not sure but its not 100% affective
[02:10] <nalioth> lyndon: you are wanting to get up from your current box and log into it from another one, right?
[02:10] <lyndon> yes
[02:10] <koin> does anybody use realplayer?
[02:10] <nalioth> lyndon: so what OS is on the other box?
[02:10] <brenner> rob^: well, i'm changing the trigger back....if only for the sake that it *is* possible....i can add a disclaimer about it not always being possible though
[02:10] <lyndon> i want to access to another computer but i cant find where is the computer
[02:10] <WildZeck> sertmann, he is my smb.conf
[02:10] <nalioth> damned bots
[02:11] <lastnode> is there a package that has AMP in it?
[02:11] <dskloet> icewm works great, thanks everybody
[02:11] <lastnode> or do i have to install everything seperately?
[02:11] <sertmann> WildZeck, cheers
[02:11] <rob^> ubotu no resize is the Ubuntu installer can resize NTFS partitions, for more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[02:11] <ubotu> rob^: okay
[02:11] <lyndon> i want to see the desktop of station15
[02:11] <sertmann> WildZeck, ill give it a look
[02:11] <lyndon> the file
[02:12] <robzon> damn it's so cool that amarok 1.3.1 got it to breezy :) big thx to developers
[02:12] <eSPete> ORiON2012, mplayer -ao esd somemovie.mpg work:D how do i make it default?
[02:12] <nalioth> lyndon: the other computer needs to have an account with your name on it, and be running openssh-server also, if you want to acces it from where you are sitting
[02:12] <brownie17> i am absalutly desperate, why does enterprise volume management keep jamming on startup. i cannot figure out why. i even reinstalled linux, and now it is doing it again. i just installed the libdvdccs and ALSA sound, then it said i had to restart, so i did and now enterpirse volume management won't work. last time i tried disabling it, it just gave me a "HAL error" everytime gnome loaded, and that was just as bad. i do not know w
[02:12] <brownie17> hat to do and am very disenlightened with ubuntu
[02:12] <ORiON2012> eSPete: modify /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf  or ~/.mplayer/config
[02:12] <ccfiel> hello ppl..
[02:13] <lyndon> ow
[02:13] <lyndon> kk
[02:13] <lyndon> i try
[02:13] <ORiON2012> eSPete: the one in your ~/ has a higher priority
[02:13] <nalioth> brownie17: easy.
[02:13] <eSPete> ORiON2012, cool now it work, yhx
[02:13] <nalioth> brownie17: i have no idea what LVM is, or i'd help you
[02:13] <lyndon> and then if i click ing network, i can see the station15 ?
[02:13] <ccfiel> can somebody help me install my webcam? i have no idea how to install it. i have tried lsusb and i found my webcam " Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. Sansun SN-510 WebCam [hv713d] " what's next?
[02:13] <lastnode> ok im upgrading discuss is lovely
[02:14] <nalioth> brownie17: if you ask politely in here later, someone will know
[02:14] <brenner> rob^: cheers
[02:14] <brownie17> nalioth, sorry, was that not polite?
[02:14] <nalioth> lyndon: the methods i'm describing are usually done using the console
[02:15] <lyndon> oh
[02:15] <nalioth> brownie17: your last text was kinda sounding threatening
[02:15] <brownie17> nalioth, sorry i twasn't mean to be
[02:15] <p0windah> whats your problem brownie17 ?
[02:15] <rob^> brenner, np happy to be corrected, also that wiki page is better then the original one
[02:15] <brownie17> nalioth, do you know how to compile webmin? i downloaded the tar.gz form website
[02:15] <p0windah> let me re-phrase that, what problems are you having with ubuntu ?
[02:16] <nalioth> brownie17: yes i can help you
[02:16] <brownie17> p0windah, enterprise volume managemtn jams on startup and i do not know how to restart it
[02:16] <brownie17> p0windah, disabling it gives me a "HAL" error, i have tried resinatlled ubuntu, the error just came back after a whiel
[02:16] <p0windah> brownie17: ok first thing you need to do is go check dmesg and syslog/messages
[02:16] <brownie17> nalioth, please do
[02:16] <nalioth> brownie17: whats the matter with the one from the repos?
[02:16] <[Wiebel] > anyone here using breezy and mozilla mplayer plugin?
[02:16] <lyndon> its hard to understand oh
[02:16] <brownie17> nalioth, i am using livecd, it did not appear
[02:16] <LinuxJones> brownie17, you talking about LVM ?
[02:17] <lyndon> nalioth thanks a lot
[02:17] <nalioth> brownie17: i suspect you need to take another action then building webmin on a livecd
[02:17] <lyndon> may be i ask question when i have a time
[02:17] <brownie17> LinuxJones, i dont think so, i think it is a different thing in startup called "enterprise volume management" it starts up just after LVM... i think
[02:17] <lyndon> for now its hard to understand ^^
[02:17] <Kuolio> ccfiel, try using google to find something more about using your webcam on linux.. I just searched "webcam linux" and found this: http://www.linux.com/howtos/Webcam-HOWTO/index.shtml   hope it helps :)
[02:17] <lyndon> thanks nalioth
[02:18] <brownie17> nalioth: well when i tried disabling evm with update-rc.d it gave me a "HAL" error everytime i logged on, weas that co-incidence
[02:18] <ccfiel> Kuilio: ok thanks! :D
[02:18] <nalioth> brownie17: it's my bedtime.
[02:19] <nalioth> bots are really swarming now
[02:19] <ORiON2012> ccfiel: seems to be supported by the spca5xx kernel mod
[02:19] <brownie17> nalioth_zZz, ok
[02:19] <brownie17> LinuxJones, can you help me with rc.d to disable EVM?
[02:19] <lastnode> is firestarter a good firewall?
[02:20] <rob^> lastnode, for home use yes
[02:20] <lastnode> rob^: any other apps you'd reccommend?
[02:20] <brownie17> seveas, can you help me disable EVM? it is crashing on startup. i cannot boot. last time i disabled it i kept getting a "HAL" error on logon
[02:20] <rob^> apart from firestarter, no
[02:20] <lastnode> rob^: thanks mate
[02:21] <lastnode> rob^: if i want to run php mysql etc, i have to get apache, php4 and mysql seperately?
[02:21] <dskloet> After ctrl-alt-bs, how do I get back to X+gdm? startx just starts an xsession without gdm...
[02:22] <LinuxJones> brownie17, yes but ar you running Hoary ?
[02:22] <ORiON2012> dskloet: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:22] <brownie17> LinuxJones, yes i am
[02:22] <brownie17> LinuxJones, pm?
[02:22] <zone17> Hi, has the ubuntu security team integrated the fix for firefox?
[02:22] <LinuxJones> brownie17, nope here is fine, do you have any windows partitions like fat32 on your system ?
[02:22] <dskloet> ORiON2012, thanks, that won't tell me gdm is already running? (as plain sudo gdm does)
[02:22] <brownie17> LinuxJones, i have an NTFS
[02:23] <ORiON2012> dskloet: you can always ps -A | grep
[02:23] <Tomcat_> zone17: What fix?
[02:23] <ORiON2012> dskloet: or /etc/init.d/gdm status
[02:23] <Tomcat_> zone17: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-181-1 <--- This is the last one
[02:24] <zone17> Tomcat_, the latest security issue
[02:24] <Tomcat_> zone17: If it's CAN-2005-2871, then yes.
[02:24] <dskloet> ORiON2012, thanks I'll try that.
[02:24] <LinuxJones> brownie17, first have a quick look at this, it mentions it doesn't provide support for windows filesystems but I doubt that would cause the service from failing. >> http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=10288    , If you want to stop the service you do >> sudo update-rc.d -f <service script name> remove
[02:24] <brownie17> LinuxJones, will that affect it? if there is no other way i can definatly format that
[02:25] <lastnode> how do you uninstall a package?
[02:25] <p0windah> apt-get remove package_name
[02:25] <dabar> lastnode: do you use synaptic?
[02:25] <ORiON2012> lastnode: you really need a starter guide of some sort, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewToUbuntu
[02:26] <LinuxJones> brownie17, so it would be sudo update-rc.d -f evms remove
[02:26] <brownie17> LinuxJones, thankyou.
[02:26] <Snoblower> anybody want to tell me exactly how to download ubunutu? i don't really know what i'm doing :(
[02:27] <ORiON2012> Snoblower: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ is a good bet
[02:27] <nalioth_zZz> brownie17: see? patience is a virtue
[02:29] <Will^Draven> blah
[02:29] <brownie17> nalioth_zZz, we are yet to see if it works, my friends
[02:29] <Will^Draven> is there an easy way to downgrade my kernel?
[02:29] <brownie17> nalioth_zZz, restart coming
[02:30] <dabar> Snoblower: go to http://www.ubuntu.com and click on download on the right. Frm there, scroll down, till you get the list of download sites for the 5.04 AHoary release. Select the best country for yourself. Then, look at the list of files, and find the one that matches your computer, i386 is pentiums, and other 32 bit processors, like some amds, ppc is apples, and amd64 is 64 bit amds...Finally, choose the .torrent, for faster download s
[02:30] <Cryptid> Please Help!!!!How to get the Panel that Looks OS-X launcher
[02:30] <mirak> in wich domain can ubuntu 64 bits bring some more performances ?
[02:30] <mirak> does gcc handle SSE3 instructions ?
[02:31] <cusco> Cryptid: look here! http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=down&page=0&PHPSESSID=705cc774dda483ef9d7acc00e97a5d07
[02:31] <andelgado> hello
[02:31] <cusco> hello
[02:32] <Cryptid> cusco, ya i've seen it on that page itself but how do i get the Panel (is it part of the theme or i got to download it seperatly)
[02:32] <andelgado> needs help, need to have package libssl0.9.6, to install YM
[02:33] <andelgado> where can I download libssl0.9.6.deb?
[02:33] <ompaul> mirak, look and that and ctrl+f for sse3 lots of info for you  http://floppsie.comp.glam.ac.uk/Glamorgan/gaius/web/gcc.html
[02:33] <cusco> Cryptid: I would say that the easy way would be installing the whole theme, and then ont the Theme options from gnome choose onthe the pannel
[02:34] <AGRAV8D> Hey , after installing ubuntu updates my other OS's disappeared. I had suse on 1 drive , XP on another. How do i get access to them back
[02:34] <ORiON2012> andelgado: in universe repos
[02:34] <mirak> ompaul: ok
[02:34] <dean> can you help me that i will add one program to startup in terminal if this is possible
[02:34] <andelgado> ubuntu CD only has 0.9.7
[02:34] <ompaul> dean what program do you want to start?
[02:34] <cusco> andelgado: apt-cache search libssl0.9.6
[02:34] <mirak> I am trying to get rid of lilo messages errors. I used lilo before using grub, and got questons concerning lilo when upgrading the kernel
[02:35] <cusco> its on the universe repositories
[02:35] <andelgado> where is universe repository?
[02:35] <lastnode_> i cant seem to find mysql in synaptic
[02:35] <cusco> andelgado: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:35] <andelgado> pls tell steps
[02:35] <cusco> uncomment those lines from the universe
[02:35] <andelgado> i'll try. ty
[02:35] <cusco> save the file; apt-get update; apt-get install libssl0.9.6
[02:36] <test34> in synaptic there is not an option to see only installed packages ?
[02:36] <Diffindo> I tried the sound configuration instructions on ubuntu guide and the forums, and I still have no noise...
[02:36] <ORiON2012> test34: yes, yes there is
[02:36] <test34> ORiON2012, where ?
[02:36] <Diffindo> help?
[02:37] <ORiON2012> test34: click status in lower right
[02:37] <dean> am i want to start one program which put on my web server sql ftp php and all together
[02:37] <ORiON2012> test34: then click installed in upper right
[02:37] <dean> please don't say install apache from ubuntu - it didn't work at me good
[02:37] <ORiON2012> test34: left, sorry
[02:37] <dabar> cusco: did you ever use aptitude? its great, for example,. I install apache with aptitude, it has 4 other packages as dependencies. Then in five minutes, I decide, I dont like apache, and want to remove it. I remove it with aptitude, and aptitude removes the 4 packages as well.
[02:37] <test34> ORiON2012, ok thanks
[02:38] <AGRAV8D> can someone tell me how to regain access to my other operating systems, ubuntu "updates" erased their entries.
[02:38] <[Wiebel] > Can i find old breezy packages somewhere?
[02:38] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all... good morning
[02:38] <[Wiebel] > i need the mplayerplug-in package from a week ago
[02:38] <Diffindo> I tried the sound configuration instructions on ubuntu guide and the forums, and I still have no noise...can anyone help?
[02:38] <dean> so there is possible to add program to startup or not
[02:39] <p0windah> dean: rcconf
[02:39] <p0windah> dean: but its not recommended
[02:39] <[Wiebel] > anyone?
[02:39] <dean> am where can i found it
[02:39] <p0windah> apt-cache search rcconf
[02:39] <Aragorn_Guardian> I need help with pam. i am trying make a ubuntu station log into domain (PDC), but I am not sure about process...
[02:39] <dean> why not
[02:39] <mandy> hello
[02:39] <mandy> jskhjhnhdjgdkmmtdeim,jiyinxl nm,n jkgo
[02:39] <ColonelKernel> how do I install w32codecs for mplayer?
[02:39] <mandy> gklgjdkhumggytihgn
[02:39] <mandy> gsg;l;gk
[02:39] <p0windah> dean: if its an application, stick it in gnome.
[02:40] <mandy> hgjgsdtu
[02:40] <mandy> fhjkd
[02:40] <mandy> dnhdhr
[02:40] <mandy> r
[02:40] <mandy> xdfg h ws4yzykzx, mlkkounmthjbjkfoz
[02:40] <mandy> fh
[02:40] <p0windah> dean: if its some server/daemon, there should already be init scripts
[02:40] <andelgado> cusco, what should i do first, type...  apt -cache search libssl0.9.6 in the command prompt?
[02:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> !pam
[02:40] <ubotu> Aragorn_Guardian: Syntax error in line 1
[02:40] <andelgado>  cusco, what should i do first, type...  apt -cache search libssl0.9.6 in the command prompt?
[02:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> !active directory
[02:40] <ubotu> Aragorn_Guardian: I haven't a clue
[02:41] <cusco> andelgado: sudo apt-get update
[02:41] <andelgado> ty, will try now
[02:41] <cusco> then sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.6
[02:41] <fdr> Hello... I'm trying to mount a fat32 fs, but I can't get the filenames with accented letters to display properly... what is the correct mount option? I tried both utf8 and uni_xlate but it doesn't seem to work... Thank you!
[02:41] <maginoo> i want my printer to share in all of the computer here can some one help me ?
[02:41] <ColonelKernel> anyone? Please? w32codecs?
[02:41] <Aragorn_Guardian> Diffindo:  i have this problem too, but the tutorial is ok...in my case i remove all others sound systems, and start tutorial again
[02:41] <andelgado> gives me error mess:   sudo: apt: command not found
[02:41] <ColonelKernel> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:41] <ColonelKernel> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:41] <ColonelKernel> is only available from another source
[02:41] <AGRAV8D> WOW ,  452 people in this channel and not one can answer my question.
[02:42] <dabar> maginoo: are they all ubuntu?
[02:42] <andelgado> i wrote it in the command prompt
[02:42] <maginoo> yes
[02:42] <maginoo> its all ubuntu
[02:42] <apsync> My sound is not working, anyone know what I can do?
[02:42] <maginoo> when same username
[02:42] <maginoo> with same username
[02:42] <Diffindo> Aragorn_Gaurdian: Humor me, how would I do that?
[02:42] <dabar> maginoo: tried the printing through System>Admin? there should be an option for a network printer,.
[02:43] <andelgado> anyone has encountered problem installing yahoo messenger?
[02:43] <andelgado> wanna share how to fix prob
[02:43] <dean> yeah it should have but it doesn't have or i don't know where to find it
[02:43] <Aragorn_Guardian> Diffindo:  in synaptic, you can deselect everything that is not alsa...update alsa, and follow tutorial...anyone correct me...
[02:43] <p0windah> better question, has anyone ever installed such named package ?
[02:43] <Aragorn_Guardian> Diffindo:  but it works...i have problems like you...but worked..
[02:44] <dabar> ColonelKernel: the w32 codecs package is just a collection of files, it does not install anything. THis is why it is ok to get it from debian. You can download it if you google for "w32codecs marillat" find the file, download it, and install it with sudo dpkg -i w32codecsblah.deb
[02:44] <andelgado> is there a site in the net where to download missing packages? i need libssl0.9.6 package. yahoo messenger needs it.
[02:44] <p0windah> andelgado: I use psi without any problems and I believe it supports yahoo
[02:44] <andelgado> psi, is it part of ubuntu?
[02:44] <Aragorn_Guardian> dabar:  one question about print sharing is that in samba, like in a windows share, one useful thing will be that will be possible install a shared printer remotely. is possible do that?
[02:44] <p0windah> andelgado: yeah
[02:45] <klepas> andelgado: type !info application
[02:45] <dean> yes it did it is named XAMPP and lot of people use it, because it is easy and works
[02:45] <ColonelKernel> dabar, thank you
[02:45] <andelgado> how do i launch it, the psi (what's it)
[02:45] <FallenOne> can anyone help me/
[02:45] <Aragorn_Guardian> !info pam
[02:45] <p0windah> type "psi"
[02:45] <FallenOne> i need a guilde
[02:45] <test34> Aragorn_Guardian, use ssh to do it remotely ?
[02:45] <FallenOne> guide
[02:45] <FallenOne> how i can make my ubuntu dual booth
[02:45] <FallenOne> with windows
[02:45] <andelgado> where shall i type psi? in the command prompt?
[02:46] <Diffindo> !audio
[02:46] <ubotu> Diffindo: I haven't a clue
[02:46] <Diffindo> !sound
[02:46] <ubotu> well, sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[02:46] <Aragorn_Guardian> test34:  no...i said...you dont have the drivers for a xyz printer, you click on the sj] hare, and the drivers will be there, in the share. windows do that.
[02:46] <p0windah> andelgado: well you need to install it first, so in a terminal type "sudo apt-get install psi qca-tls"
[02:46] <p0windah> andelgado: that should install psi and the ssl stuff it makes use of
[02:46] <Aragorn_Guardian> FallenOne:  is a grub question, i think you must see in grub docs
[02:47] <andelgado> it showed couldnt find package psi
[02:47] <andelgado> anymore help pls
[02:47] <No1Viking> I got problems with swedish characters. Any idea what to do when my swedish special characters show up as a ??
[02:47] <p0windah> andelgado: add universe into your repositories
[02:48] <andelgado> pls tell how i do that... universe into repositories
[02:48] <Aragorn_Guardian> !info active directory
[02:48] <p0windah> andelgado: actually I tell a lie, you will need to have a jabber account to use the yahoo stuff
[02:48] <Aragorn_Guardian> !info krb5
[02:48] <nir_> hi
[02:48] <p0windah> andelgado: so if you want to use a jabber account and attacjh your yahoo to it, grab psi. otherwise give it a miss
[02:48] <Aragorn_Guardian> !info mped
[02:48] <ubotu> mped: (a small editor with syntax highlighting), section universe/editors, is optional. Version: 3.1.11-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[02:48] <No1Viking> I got problems with swedish characters. Any idea what to do when my swedish special characters show up as a "?" ?
[02:49] <andelgado> i think my prob is that universe thing. i don't know here it is located
[02:49] <FallenOne> aragon guardian
[02:49] <p0windah> No1Viking: are you sure you have the right unicode fonts installed ?
[02:49] <FallenOne> where is gurg
[02:49] <FallenOne> or something
[02:49] <nir_> how i can disable GDM and run automaticlly fluxbox ?
[02:49] <p0windah> andelgado: its in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:49] <No1Viking> p0windah: Nope, am not sure
[02:49] <andelgado> is universe a directory included in the CD installer?
[02:49] <p0windah> andelgado: no, internet
[02:49] <test34> FallenOne, man grub
[02:49] <nir_> ?
[02:49] <FallenOne> test
[02:50] <FallenOne> obuntu
[02:50] <FallenOne> just arrived
[02:50] <nox_ghost> when i place a new startup script in "sessions" - in which file it saves it?
[02:50] <FallenOne> at my house
[02:50] <FallenOne> i dont know anything
[02:50] <FallenOne> so whats grub/
[02:50] <reiki> FAllenOne... try to use one line to post :)
[02:50] <test34> FallenOne, was windows installed when you installed ubuntu ?
[02:50] <FallenOne> i didnt yet install it
[02:50] <FallenOne> i want to know how to make it dual booth
[02:51] <andelgado> so how do i add the universe, should i launch the synaptic package manager?
[02:51] <test34> FallenOne, why do you need windows anyways
[02:51] <andelgado> p0windah, more help pls,
[02:51] <FallenOne> good question ,
[02:51] <FallenOne> for games
[02:52] <FallenOne> im gunna use windows ONLY for games and linux for the res
[02:52] <andelgado> how do i add universe to repositories? help pls
[02:53] <reiki> for some reason I've never"trusted"... "liked"... dual booting. I prefer swappable drives. :)
[02:53] <Aragorn_Guardian> FallenOne:  grub is the boot manager. is better than older lilo. see the man, docs
[02:53] <FallenOne> Thanks
[02:53] <FallenOne> and one last question
[02:53] <Aragorn_Guardian> test34:  no... I am not in that fase...ehehehe... i started in a clean HD for a while....8)
[02:53] <test34> andelgado, in synaptic go in Settings - Repositories - Add
[02:54] <Aragorn_Guardian> test34:  grub is a surprise for me....hehehehehehehehe
[02:54] <dean> am anyone know gow to use gconf
[02:55] <test34> andelgado, and then select Community Maintained (Universe)
[02:55] <koin> please, someone can tell me how to delete an icon from the gnome-menu?
[02:55] <andelgado> ya thanks, already done.. still waiting to finish download
[02:55] <deFrysk> !tell koin about smeg
[02:56] <test34> koin, Applications - System Tools - Application Menu Editor
[02:56] <klepas> !info repositories
[02:56] <klepas> or something like that *ggg*
[02:56] <FallenOne> as what must i make a new partition????
[02:56] <FallenOne> primary or logical?
[02:56] <deFrysk> !tell koin about backport
[02:56] <klepas> anyone know how I would go about adding extra repositories under breezy?
[02:57] <p0windah> check /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:57] <test34> klepas, in synaptic go in Settings - Repositories - Add and then select Community Maintained (Universe)
[02:57] <deFrysk> !repositories
[02:57] <ubotu> repositories is, like, probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:57] <FallenOne> test, primary or logical for new partition?
[02:57] <klepas> thanks heaps :-)
[02:58] <dean> how to write in gconf-editor that will start one program at startup
[02:58] <test34> FallenOne, I don't think it matters.. but primary if you can
[02:59] <p0windah> dean: http://ubuntuguide.org/#runprogramsstartupgnome
[02:59] <Diffindo> How do I run a .GZ file...
[02:59] <Diffindo> ?
[02:59] <cusco> dean: that I really don0t know, I know before you log off you can memorise your screen tho
[02:59] <fdr> Sorry, I'm asking this a second time... I'm trying to mount a fat32 fs, but I can't get the filenames with accented letters to display properly... Anybody please knows the correct mount option? I tried both utf8 and uni_xlate but it doesn't seem to work... Thank you!
[03:00] <p0windah> Diffindo: double click on it in nautilus,; remember also that a .GZ file is the equiv. of a .ZIP file
[03:00] <koin> test34: i don't have this Application Menu Editor
[03:00] <koin> deFrysk: smeg is the only choice?
[03:00] <dean> p0windah this doesn't work
[03:00] <dean> i make that
[03:00] <Diffindo> The file in the GZ is an unknown type that I can't figure out
[03:00] <p0windah> in what way doesnt it work dean
[03:01] <dean> but didn't work or i write not right orders
[03:01] <dean> it write that has to run program
[03:01] <dean> but it didn't run
[03:01] <p0windah> double check how owns the script you are trying to run and its +x
[03:01] <test34> koin, I use breezy, maybe that
[03:01] <test34> koin, I use breezy, maybe that's why
[03:01] <koin> test34: yes, i use hoary
[03:02] <koin> test34: so, how can i do? it's impossible that i'm losing hours to delet a simple icon!
[03:02] <koin> deFrysk: what are these backports?
[03:02] <p0windah> koin: what are you tryng to do exactly ?
[03:03] <emanuelez> hello
[03:03] <hyphenated> fdr: are you sure the problem is with the mounting, and not with whatever tool you're using to view the files with?
[03:03] <emanuelez> how do i install a newer version of kismet... the one in the official repositories seems one year old!
[03:03] <koin> p0windah: i've uninstalled real player and i have still the icon in the audio & video menu
[03:04] <koin> p0windah: i want to delete this icon only
[03:04] <maginoo> i want my printer will share in all network
[03:04] <p0windah> koin: and you want those entries removed ? http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#menu-editor
[03:04] <test34> koin, yeah there should be an option in the right-click menu to delete them.. but sorry I don't know
[03:04] <p0windah> koin: in hoary the menu editor wasnt included by default, in breezy it is
[03:05] <koin> p0windah: i tried with sudo apt-get smeg but it doesn't work
[03:05] <test34> its kinda strange that when you right click something in the menu it only give you the option to add it somewhere else, but not to delete it
[03:05] <p0windah> what do you mean, "doesnt work"
[03:06] <fdr> hyphenated : i'm using both nautilus and the terminal, and none of those works
[03:06] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get install <package>
[03:06] <fdr> hyphenated: please note that the accented chars that arise problems are in the file *name*, not in the contents
[03:07] <emanuelez> where can i find unofficial repositories?
[03:08] <p0windah> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[03:08] <deFrysk> emanuelez, be wise, dont use them
[03:08] <emanuelez> p0windah: none of those have a recent version of kismet
[03:08] <VincentMX> hi
[03:08] <hyphenated> fdr: indeed. and that same tool shows other filenames with accented characters fine, right? ones that aren't on that vfat filesystem
[03:08] <apsync> hi, just installing gstreamer0.8-mad and now is mp3's working, what package do I need to be able to play avi's ?
[03:08] <emanuelez> defri
[03:08] <andelgado> test34, cusco, p0windah, and the rest who helped me, THANKS HUMANS! My Yahoo messenger works now!
[03:09] <emanuelez> deFrysk: i only need a newer version of kismet.. that's it
[03:09] <p0windah> good stuff :)
[03:09] <andelgado> gonna test if my webcam and audio will work
[03:09] <deFrysk> emanuelez, ok
[03:09] <cusco> andelgado: you could use yahoo messenger trhu gaim
[03:10] <andelgado> oh, and what is gaim? been hearing that but got no idea
[03:10] <deFrysk> !tell andelgado about gaim
[03:10] <fdr> hyphenated : yes, both tools work just fine with accented filenames on my ext3 home
[03:11] <cusco> andelgado: menu Applications - Internet - Gaim
[03:11] <andelgado> yes, pls explain gaim, others wanna know too
[03:11] <Logtime> When using the FTPS or HTTPS protocol, gFTP cannot connect if the remote server uses a self signed certificate.
[03:11] <Logtime> You must add the public key of your self signed CA to your OpenSSL certs directory. On my Debian box, the OpenSSL certs are installed in /usr/lib/ssl/certs.
[03:11] <Logtime> anyone idea?
[03:11] <cusco> andelgado: gaim is a IM messenger client which supports several protocols
[03:11] <cusco> like yahoo messenger, msn messenger, jabber, icq, irc
[03:12] <kemik> Logtime:  no, but if you get one, pls tell me :)
[03:12] <deFrysk> and also google messenger not to forget
[03:12] <Logtime> o_O
[03:12] <ccfiel> how do i know what version of kernel i used?
[03:12] <p0windah> ccfiel: uname -a
[03:12] <kemik> uname -r
[03:12] <deFrysk> uname -r yes
[03:12] <p0windah> I prefer verbosity :)
[03:12] <nox_ghost> when i place a new startup script in "sessions" - in which file it saves it?
[03:12] <kemik> obviously ;)
[03:12] <andelgado> got it, will try
[03:13] <test34> andelgado, with gaim, you can use MSN, yahoo, aim, jabber, irc and more
[03:13] <p0windah> nox_ghost: /home/user/.baby_jesus_loves_you/session_stuff.omgzor
[03:13] <hyphenated> fdr: you could try playing with iocharset then, if it's not latin-1
[03:14] <ccfiel> i have a kernel Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 and when i synaptic i can only find a Linux kernel source for version 2.6.10 and Linux kernel source for version 2.6.11 and  i need to get one? what shall i get?
[03:14] <andelgado> will it be compatible with yahoo's voice call and webcam sharing?
[03:14] <ColonelKernel> andelgado, NO
[03:15] <ColonelKernel> andelgado, theres nothing to do yahoo cam on linux yet
[03:15] <ColonelKernel> im anxiously awaiting
[03:15] <andelgado> i c. that's why i can't find option to open webcam in yahoo
[03:15] <ccfiel> hello can somebody help me...
[03:16] <ccfiel> i have a kernel Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 and when i synaptic i can only find a Linux kernel source for version 2.6.10 and Linux kernel source for version 2.6.11 and  i need to get one? what shall i get?
[03:16] <ColonelKernel> that is correct, sir
[03:16] <fdr> hyphenated: hmm please, do you know what the correct value for iocharset would be?
[03:16] <Logtime> someone know a client ftp gui with SSL???
[03:16] <LinuxJones> nox_ghost, it should be in >> /home/username/.gnome2/session/usr/sbin
[03:16] <ColonelKernel> not even the yahoo linux client can allow linux to do yahoo webcam, and i am disgusted.
[03:16] <Logtime> plsss
[03:16] <test34> is there a .deb for firefox 1.5 ?
[03:16] <LinuxJones> nox_ghost, err  >> /home/username/.gnome2/session/
[03:16] <hyphenated> fdr: it depends what was being used while it was a windows drive. eg: iso8859-3 or somesuch
[03:16] <Logtime> someone know a client ftp gui with SSL???
[03:16] <andelgado> does it mean, i can't use my webcam for chatting in linux?
[03:17] <nox_ghost> Logtime, gftp ?
[03:17] <nox_ghost> thanx LinuxJones
[03:17] <Logtime> nox_ghost,
[03:17] <Logtime> You must add the public key of your self signed CA to your OpenSSL certs directory. On my Debian box, the OpenSSL certs are installed in /usr/lib/ssl/certs.
[03:17] <andelgado> no webcams in linux?
[03:17] <Logtime> i've that problem
[03:17] <andelgado> no voice chatting as well?
[03:17] <p0windah> andelgado: try skype
[03:18] <hyphenated> andelgado: skype works fine on linux
[03:18] <test34> andelgado, you can do voice chatting with skype
[03:18] <andelgado> how about webcams? skype is part of this ubuntu?
[03:18] <p0windah> andelgado: a quick way to find linux apps is on sourceforge.net
[03:18] <test34> andelgado, for webcams I dont know I dont own one
[03:18] <test34> andelgado, http://skype.com
[03:18] <andelgado> gonna check out sourceforge.net, will do that
[03:19] <fdr> hyphenated : so I should specify both utf8 and iocharset, right? Given that the partition was created and used with an Italian version of windows 98, where can I look for the right charset? thank you..........
[03:19] <andelgado> thanks guys. gonna ask new topic....
[03:20] <moparfan90> hello does anyone know how to make windows transparent ? (im using e17)
[03:20] <p0windah> you mean translucent ?
[03:20] <gabberman> heh
[03:20] <moparfan90> what ever
[03:20] <p0windah> transparent might be hard to work with
[03:20] <gabberman> anyone can help with soundcard problem?
[03:20] <nox_ghost> gabberman,
[03:21] <nox_ghost> !google site:ubuntuforums.org happy alsa esd
[03:21] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, nox_ghost
[03:21] <Logtime> someone know a client ftp gui with SSL???
[03:21] <gabberman> huh?
[03:21] <nox_ghost> search this in google
[03:21] <nox_ghost> site:ubuntuforums.org happy alsa esd
[03:21] <hyphenated> fdr: possibly. apparently iso8859-1 is correct for italian, and is the default. the plot thickens
[03:21] <gabberman> ma sound cards ISA
[03:21] <jonphilpott> hi, i recently moved from suse 9.3 to ubuntu 5.10, and now gnome/linux doesnt recognise blank DVDs when i insert them/try to burn them
[03:22] <gabberman> someone on here yesterday said all i need was some code
[03:22] <andelgado> any help, i need WINES, where to find?
[03:22] <gabberman> to enable the sound card
[03:22] <jonphilpott> any ideas what would cause this.. theres a lot of messages in dmesg
[03:22] <gabberman> indtall the drivers etc
[03:22] <fdr> hyphenated: glad to hear that the plot thickens.... :-P :-)
[03:26] <DjKritical> anyone know if there is a package for watching asf movies in firefox?
[03:26] <gabberman> nox_ghost   ... read site... doesnmt mean too much to mean, im noob
[03:27] <gabberman> apparently theres a command which installs all the isa sound card drivers...
[03:27] <CarlFK> asf - is that flash?
[03:27] <gabberman> i just cant rmember what it was..
[03:27] <DjKritical> asf = micros**t
[03:27] <p0windah> some streaming windows thing
[03:28] <apsync> hmm my sound/videoplayer is laggy
[03:28] <apsync> just downloaded my nvidia drivers
[03:28] <DjKritical> It's a windows media player plugin thing which displays streaming media on webpages
[03:29] <DjKritical> for instance, the videos on big-boys.com (best non-porn website ever)
[03:30] <gabberman> sound card help anyone?????
[03:32] <DjKritical> gabberman, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[03:33] <^DodGeR^> could someone point me at a java/firefox howto ? i have installed java , but java dont work in firefox
[03:33] <neels> ANYone know about wlan cards on ubuntu?
[03:33] <^DodGeR^> !java
[03:33] <ubotu> I guess java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[03:34] <p0windah> heh
[03:34] <reiki> how do I see what video drivers are installed? AND... if I have an older geforce2 card and everything seems to be working fine, is there any reason I should be trying to install nvidia drivers? Or leave it alone? (if it ain't broke, don't fix it)
[03:34] <^DodGeR^> !firefox
[03:34] <ubotu> ^DodGeR^: I give up, what is it?
[03:34] <neels> WLAN help please
[03:34] <p0windah> ^DodGeR^: check out www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:34] <p0windah> its reasonably comrehensive
[03:34] <ccfiel> DoGer: ubu
[03:34] <p0windah> comprehensive, too
[03:34] <ccfiel> DoGer: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[03:34] <^DodGeR^> did that p0windah , said to install the j2re ..
[03:35] <^DodGeR^> ta
[03:35] <DjKritical> ^DodGeR^: I followed that site and java works fine for me
[03:35] <^DodGeR^> yeah java works fine , but java games in firefox dont
[03:35] <Frag52954> hey, whats ubuntu breezy colony 4 like then?
[03:35] <Hikaru79> Would you guys say that the current Breezy preview is good enough for regular use?
[03:36] <LasseL> ^DodGeR^, you need to create a link to install the plugin into firefox
[03:36] <p0windah> Hikaru79: no
[03:36] <_anti-net_> Hikaru79: i know some people who are using it, bit buggy
[03:36] <Hikaru79> Drat =( What sort of problems does it have?
[03:36] <_anti-net_> Oct 13th it comes out right?
[03:36] <p0windah> Hikaru79: based on the presumption that a regular user has little internet opening a terminal and messing around with config files
[03:37] <Frag52954> try it on your machine Hikaru79
[03:37] <p0windah> little interest
[03:37] <p0windah> whyt am I typing like such a retard tonite
[03:37] <p0windah> again... when will this madness stop
[03:37] <jonphilpott> ive been using it for about a week.. only problem ive had is not being able to burn dvds
[03:37] <Frag52954> if it works fine and you want to use it freeze the repos, because it probably is changing quite a lot atm
[03:37] <Hikaru79> p0windah, I have no problem messing with the system. As long as the problems aren't with the packages themselves, I can handle most fixable problems.
[03:37] <neels> WLAN !
[03:37] <VincentMX> hi beyond
[03:38] <p0windah> Hikaru79: go for it then
[03:38] <spine55> does anyone know how to change the refresh rate of the transparency for konsole?
[03:38] <VincentMX> hi littlepaul
[03:38] <neels> narge barge knarge
[03:38] <littlepaul> hi VincentMX ;-)
[03:38] <_anti-net_> I'm going to wait, tho ubuntu is going to replace XP as soon as i finsh school :P
[03:38] <p0windah> spine55: translucency
[03:38] <^DodGeR^> LasseL, pelase elaborate ?
[03:38] <spine55> p0windah: oh sorry :)
[03:39] <spine55> p0windah: so how do you change it?
[03:39] <p0windah> no idea :)
[03:39] <infared> Hi guys. Yesterday, i decided to try out linux for the first time. I downloaded the ubuntu live CD "ubuntu-5.10-preview-live-i386.rar" ..i burned it and then booted it. Then it told me that it was about to install something, so i clicked no and went back to windows. My question: isnt a Live-CD to test things out with no installations and stuff?
[03:39] <VincentMX> _anti-net_ hope you finish school very early
[03:39] <beyond> VincentMX, hi
[03:39] <spine55> it's choppy and the gnome terminal does it really smooth
[03:40] <harrytuttle> infared: would help to know what it wanted to install
[03:40] <Will^Draven> gahhh
[03:41] <Will^Draven> my kernel compile bombed out :(
[03:41] <infared> well, first some files names ran down the screen fast like it does when u boot up in windows safe mode, and then about the installation thing, i kinda forgot as this happend yesterday. want me to do it again and check out what happend?
[03:41] <Hikaru79> infared, if you burned the right ISO, it should *definitely* not be installing anything on your hard drive.
[03:41] <^DodGeR^> !proxy
[03:41] <ubotu> ^DodGeR^: Are you smoking crack?
[03:41] <^DodGeR^> how does one set a proxy for apt-get ?
[03:42] <Hikaru79> infared, lately the livecd booter has used the installer for some basic configuration options, but it is *still* most definitely a livecd.
[03:42] <harrytuttle> infared: i'm quite confidend it wont' install anything, you could try again, read it better and if still in doubt write it down
[03:43] <harrytuttle> ^DodGeR^: i would recommend approxd, but it's only in breezy.
[03:43] <pc5> kmusta s mga linux users
[03:44] <^DodGeR^> cant use breezy yet .. so what ure saying is i cant proxy apt-egt ?? ie i cant install anything if i am forced to use a proxy ?
[03:44] <erUSUL> ^DodGeR^: man apt.conf
[03:44] <^DodGeR^> sweet ta
[03:44] <p0windah> ^DodGeR^: its possible, but you'll need to read
[03:44] <^DodGeR^> if you could point me .. quite good at treading .o)
[03:45] <reiki> how do I see what video sriver is being used in Hoary?
[03:45] <n00blar> Hi all, anyone that can point me to an application that I use to play my DvDs on Ubuntu? I used to use xine, but don't know if I can use it with Ubuntu
[03:45] <harrytuttle> ^DodGeR^: there are other proxies for apt, but the best one is approxd. you could try to install it from breezy or from debian, or you could backport it, or you could live with another one
[03:45] <p0windah> check erUSUL's comment above
[03:45] <reiki> sriver=driver
[03:45] <p0windah> you dont need to install anything special for it to use a proxy, just read the man file
[03:45] <erUSUL> reiki: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep driver
[03:46] <reiki> erUSUL, thanks...
[03:46] <erUSUL> reiki: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep *Driver*
[03:46] <harrytuttle> ^DodGeR^: ops. do you need to setup apt to use a pre-existing proxy or do you need to set up a proxy server for use with apt?
[03:47] <draug_n> n00blar: VLC plays dvds. sudo apt-get install xine should work too
[03:47] <reiki> interesting... cat: /etc/X11/xorg.cong: No such file or directory
[03:47] <Will^Draven> im trying to build a kernel image using kernel-package and kernel-source-2.4.27 and i get this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2255
[03:47] <reiki> doh!
[03:47] <n00blar> draug_n, awesome..thanks
[03:47] <jpfarias> hey guys!
[03:47] <draug_n> np :)
[03:48] <jpfarias> does anyone knows if the current breezy kernel has inotify enabled?
[03:48] <erUSUL> ^DodGeR^: maybe it's easier through synaptic. Configuration->preferences->net
[03:48] <Fred|Fr3d> hey, anyone know if mIRC can run using WINE?
[03:49] <harrytuttle> jpfarias: yes
[03:49] <jpfarias> harrytuttle, ok, thanks!
[03:49] <erUSUL> Will^Draven: why do you want a 2.4 kernel?
[03:49] <jpfarias> harrytuttle, I think I'll try beagle, that desktop search tool
 hey, anyone know if mIRC can run using WINE? << I've tried it.. it seems to work but last time I used it the script editor was not.. editable. just try it. maybe wine's fixed that
[03:49] <Will^Draven> because my sound driver dosent support 2.6
[03:49] <jpfarias> haffe, it's really cool ;-)
[03:50] <jpfarias> ops
[03:50] <Fred|Fr3d> segosa: thanks, i will try :)
[03:50] <jpfarias> harrytuttle, it's really cool
[03:50] <harrytuttle> Will^Draven: which sound card, out of curiosity?
[03:51] <zanzara> lo
[03:51] <Cryptid> How do i get the Panel that Looks like OS-X launcher for Gnome
[03:51] <erUSUL> Will^Draven: aha...
[03:51] <^DodGeR^> that works erUSUL , thanks (will still need to figure out how to do the command line apt-get proxied at some point)
[03:51] <FireCat> Is anyone else getting kernel panics on shutdown with Breezy
[03:51] <Will^Draven> its a riptide, under slackware i had to install these drivers to get it to work: http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/ the HCF and the Riptide
[03:52] <harrytuttle> Will^Draven: nasty...
[03:52] <FireCat> I think it is in LVM at the end when it syncs
[03:52] <erUSUL> ^DodGeR^: maybe synaptic have set the proxy setting to all programs using apt (is a front end) try out cli and see what happens
[03:52] <Will^Draven> yeah well its the only hardware ive got right now
[03:52] <^DodGeR^> yeah will check soon as the lists are updated , tnx much
[03:53] <elvirolo> hi all
[03:54] <Will^Draven> there isnt some magic ubuntu apt command i could perform to switch to a 2.4 kernel by any chance is there? heheh
[03:54] <elvirolo> will it be possible, when breezy gets released, to upgrade from hoary without a hitch ? (ie: not having to run apt-get -f install, or fiddling with xorg.conf ...)
[03:55] <steven_Laptop> hello How do I check the running level im on?
[03:55] <djm62> steven_Laptop: telinit
[03:55] <FireCat> elvirol: Not sure, but I think dist-upgrade does that
[03:55] <p0windah> elvirolo: I did it a week back without problems
[03:55] <harrytuttle> Will^Draven: maybe installing a debian sarge 2.4 kernel, could work.
[03:56] <lonewolff> elvirolo: it should work well using apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:56] <djm62> steven_Laptop: and bear in mind that ubuntu is based on debian, which doesn't use runlevels like the RH-style distros
[03:56] <elvirolo> really ? i did it two weeks ago, and I had to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:56] <lonewolff> elvirolo: i did it 2 days ago and didnt have to change anything
[03:56] <p0windah> had you previously hand tweaked your config files ?
[03:57] <lonewolff> (on both ppc and x86)
[03:57] <elvirolo> well ... it's a good thing if it works :)
[03:58] <steven_Laptop> djm62, thats what im fighting with here lol im trying so damn hard to setup my boot option here meaning im trying to get running level 4 to be the same as the default but with no network grrrr
[03:58] <elvirolo> something else ... is amarok 1.3 _definately_ not making it to breezy ?
[03:59] <Will^Draven> harrytuttle: any idea how i might go about obtaining said kernel?
[03:59] <p0windah> elvirolo: I see Version: 2:1.3.1-0ubuntu2 right now
[03:59] <steven_Laptop> I add to grub (Ubuntu No network) and that should be running level 4
[03:59] <steven_Laptop> grrrrr
[03:59] <elvirolo> p0windah: really ?!
[04:00] <p0windah> thats what "apt-cache show amarok" tells me
[04:00] <mirak> is apt-build known to have problemes with ubuntu ?
[04:00] <steven_Laptop> but its not working the way I want
[04:01] <elvirolo> p0windah: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=amarok&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[04:01] <n00blar> Ok, anyone that can give me a package source for me to dl xine? I can't seem to apt-get xine with my current source list
[04:01] <harrytuttle> Will^Draven: search for it on packages.debian.org (kernel-image-2.4-something), download the deb, install it widh dpkg. but it is calling for trouble. with 2.4 kernel no more udev, and expected problems with hotplug and the like.
[04:01] <Cryptid> WHAT IS GNOME PANEL
[04:01] <Will^Draven> bloody hell
[04:02] <FireCat> stephen_laptop: Why don't you just disable your network, and turn it on when you want it?
[04:02] <p0windah> elvirolo: I just pasted what my cache says, I'm using universe and multiverse
[04:02] <elvirolo> p0windah: weird, thanks anyway :)
[04:03] <harrytuttle> steven_Laptop: what about using a little init script that parses the kernel command line and if it founds "nonetwork" it disables the auto eth0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces?
[04:03] <steven_Laptop> FireCat, were and how do I disable the network and The Sync
[04:03] <Cryptid> How do i get the OS-X Launch panel imitation for Gnome????????????????????????????????????
[04:03] <p0windah> Cryptid: you ask politely
[04:03] <Cryptid> p0windah, sorry
[04:04] <Logtime> someone know a client ftp gui with SSL???
[04:04] <Cryptid> p0windah, ne ways how do i get it?
[04:04] <FireCat> stephen_laptop: System>Administration>Networking [Properties]   []  This device is configured
[04:04] <steven_Laptop> im up to trying anything here if im not around any networks this sucks I end up with a 3 min boot time
[04:04] <elvirolo> hum, something else (again) ... my wifi card is finally detected by breezy (which is great) but it (ie ra0) won't activate at startup
[04:04] <steven_Laptop> ok ic
[04:04] <Logtime> someone know a client ftp gui with SSL???
[04:05] <FireCat> Logtime: I think gftp does it
[04:05] <magnon> !gftp
[04:05] <ubotu> I don't know, magnon
[04:05] <apsync> how come, pc starts lagging when I move the slidebar while watching / listening movie or mp3?
[04:05] <steven_Laptop> gft
[04:05] <steven_Laptop> gftp
[04:05] <p0windah> Cryptid: maybe you can have a look at http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[04:05] <apsync> I have the right nvidia drivers now too
[04:05] <Logtime> gftpdoes problem
[04:05] <ablyss> Logtime, putty
[04:05] <erUSUL> elvirolo: edit /etc/network/interfaces a add somthin like auto ra0
[04:05] <Logtime> i've compiled but now
[04:06] <Logtime> with gui
[04:06] <Logtime> ?
[04:06] <Logtime> You must add the public key of your self signed CA to your OpenSSL certs directory. On my Debian box, the OpenSSL certs are installed in /usr/lib/ssl/certs.
[04:06] <elvirolo> erUSUL: ok thanks ... but why doesn't it do it by itself ?
[04:06] <ablyss> u will need to build putty so gcc is needed
[04:06] <Logtime> i need help to do that
[04:06] <ablyss> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
[04:06] <DjKritical> If anyone here is interested in making linux do things when you say commands into your microphone, go look up perlbox-voice
[04:06] <FireCat> Is anyone else getting kernel panics on shutdown with Breezy, I think in LVM I get a kernel sync panic and it locks up the box solid
[04:07] <ablyss> gftp doesn't do ssh ?
[04:07] <p0windah> Cryptid: this thread seems to have a few ppl doing similar stuff too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57418&highlight=osx
[04:07] <erUSUL> elvirolo: not everybody want his interfaces up at boot time. System-->Administration->Net to make the change with gui
[04:07] <djm62> nautilus does sftp and sftp...Places->Connect to Server
[04:08] <nickrud> Logtime, /usr/share/doc/openssl/doc/HOWTO/certificates.txt.gz
[04:08] <elvirolo> erUSUL: yeah, i tried that ... but if i want it to activate, i have to change from dhcp to static ip (and vice versa) every time
[04:08] <BiSK-8> hello
[04:09] <BiSK-8> u ppl know any good text editor i can get through apt-get?
[04:09] <ablyss> BiSK-8, try sudo apt-get install mousepad
[04:10] <BiSK-8> can i drag- drop .class files with it?
[04:10] <ablyss> dunno, never tried.. .but I doubt it
[04:10] <BiSK-8> dammit
[04:10] <BiSK-8> i have a hex editor
[04:10] <ablyss> i like mousepad because it's so dern fast
[04:10] <BiSK-8> but i cant copy/paste
[04:10] <BiSK-8> that's the only 1?
[04:11] <ablyss> the only one i use besides vi.. :-D
[04:11] <BiSK-8> nope
[04:11] <BiSK-8> wont work
[04:11] <BiSK-8> thanks though
[04:11] <BiSK-8> bye
[04:11] <elvirolo> erUSUL: in fact; etc/network/interfaces DOES contain auto ra0
[04:11] <moparfan90> hello. how do i install the drivers for my pny vetry geforce FX card??
[04:12] <anonym> test
[04:12] <erUSUL> elvirolo: well, the problem is not there then
[04:13] <elvirolo> maybe the file is overwritten every time i boot up
[04:15] <n00blar> anyone knows a source to get libdvdcss2?
[04:19] <erUSUL> n00blar: hoary-extras?
[04:19] <jXpX> anyone use the amule?
[04:19] <clarkn0va> hey, i just got a wireless card for my laptop.  can someone tell me what the kernel modules are called now?   because the ubuntu documentation is wrong.
[04:20] <jXpX> tou losee
[04:20] <jXpX> format
[04:20] <CarlFK> clarkn0va - still called modules
[04:20] <CarlFK> clarkn0va - what are you talking about? ;)
[04:20] <liable> clarkn0va: depends what card it is..
[04:21] <clarkn0va> it's a linksys WPC11v4
[04:21] <n00blar> where can I get libdvdcss2? I'd like to play my commercial dvds with ubuntu
[04:21] <Hoxzer> How should I mount my floppy driver?
[04:22] <CarlFK> Hoxzer - I think it automounts when you use /media/floppy
[04:22] <Hoxzer> CarlFK: that seems not to work
[04:22] <erUSUL> n00blar: hoary-extras? i told you
[04:22] <CarlFK> Hoxzer - just a sec
[04:23] <clarkn0va> the documentation says it's supported, but then it names an apt module package that doesn't exist
[04:23] <[Wiebel] > does anyone have a good apt site where i can find w32codecs ?
[04:23] <erUSUL> Hoxzer: Places->System-> floppy
[04:23] <erUSUL> !tell n00blar [Wiebel]  about repos
[04:24] <test34> where should I put Totem movie player codecs ?
[04:24] <erUSUL> !tell n00blar about repos
[04:24] <Cryptid> p0windah, Thanx for alll the Help
[04:24] <erUSUL> !tell [Wiebel]  about repos
[04:24] <n00blar> er4z0r, ok...that sounds ok, but I don't know what hoary-extras is
[04:24] <Hoxzer> eRUSUL: thx
[04:24] <erUSUL> test34: it depends if you are using totem-xine or totem-gstreamer
[04:24] <test34> erUSUL, gstreamer
[04:25] <dskloet> I edited xorg.conf to have 1024x768 instead of 1280x1024 but now I have a virtual screen larger than my actual screen. What did I do wrong?
[04:25] <n00blar> erUSUL, ok..thanks
[04:25] <CarlFK> Hoxzer - nm - i thought the install setup automount.
[04:26] <hablandocontigo> My guess is this is the nfs port for Mac 548		afpovertcp  but my Ubuntu distro 2049 port is open for NFS. I've had problems connecting this Tiger to the nfs share.
[04:26] <FireCat> dskloet: Take out the 1280x1024
[04:26] <DjKritical> Does anyone know how to configure ubuntu to use 2 sound outputs/inputs?... I've got my normal soundcard+speakers and usb headphones&mic
[04:26] <dskloet> firecat, ok I'll try
[04:26] <DjKritical> my usb headset comes up in mixer... but I can't see how to switch
[04:27] <[Wiebel] > erUSUL: none of those include w32codecs
[04:28] <trip_naga> #naga
[04:28] <liable> !w32codecs
[04:28] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repository. AMD64? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 Legal issues: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:28] <erUSUL> [Wiebel] : i have them instaled from hoary-extras
[04:29] <test34> erUSUL, in /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/ right ?
[04:29] <mahounoai> hey guys, i'm having weird troubles with the JRE and Firefox, can anybody help?
[04:29] <erUSUL> read the page that ubotu told you. is not that hard ;)
[04:30] <erUSUL> test34: i do not know. Maybe you shoul use prepackaged codecs. where do you get the codec you are trying to install?
[04:30] <[Wiebel] > erUSUL:
[04:30] <[Wiebel] > Reinstallation of w32codecs is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[04:31] <test34> erUSUL, on mplayer's website.. codecs for wmv and others
[04:31] <rob^> umm if you say so heh
[04:31] <mahounoai> anybody know how to include the sun-j2re-1.5 into firefox?
[04:31] <erUSUL> test34: this are the w32codecs install from hoary-extras
[04:32] <erUSUL> mahounoai: how have you installed java?
[04:32] <[Wiebel] > it doesnt seem to exist anymore
[04:32] <rob^> !java
[04:32] <ubotu> somebody said java was to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:32] <rob^> man I love bots
[04:32] <test34> erUSUL, ok
[04:32] <mahounoai> yeah, i went through synaptic and installed sun-j2re1.5, and it ran fine in jedit
[04:32] <dskloet> FireCat, thanks it helped :)
[04:32] <mahounoai> when i opened firefox, though, it said it was missing
[04:32] <erUSUL> [Wiebel] : i have updated them last night don't know what coul have happened
[04:33] <dskloet> FireCat, by any chance, do you know how to make a meta key out of my windows key?
[04:33] <april> hi
[04:33] <mahounoai> hi
[04:33] <apsync> how come, pc starts lagging when I move the slidebar while watching / listening movie or mp3?
[04:33] <apsync> I have the right nvidia drivers now too
[04:33] <[Wiebel] > erUSUL: wel can you mail me the .deb? :)
[04:33] <dskloet> or anyone else? (winkey -> metakey?)
[04:34] <rob^> I wonder if its worth creating an intelligent bot that automatically answers questions instead of us having to use commands
[04:34] <steven_Laptop> ok im now booting to level 4 sweet we are almost there now in the start up how do I kill networking
[04:34] <erUSUL> [Wiebel] : i have a 56k dial-up :( the deb is too heavy....
[04:34] <FireCat> dskloet: No, I don't sorry
[04:34] <ompaul> !tell [Wiebel]  about restricted
[04:34] <dskloet> FireCat, ok thanks anyway
[04:35] <pedri2> anyone here?
[04:35] <rob^> ahha
[04:35] <steven_Laptop> no
[04:35] <FireCat> rofl
[04:35] <tigermb> how can i change the usplash image?
[04:35] <rob^> I wonder..
[04:35] <rob^> !usplash
[04:35] <ubotu> from memory, usplash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss
[04:35] <test34> how about breezy-extras ?
[04:35] <ompaul> pedri2, only about 456
[04:35] <pedri2> i have a usb webcam but i dont know which application to use to view it
[04:36] <steven_Laptop> FireCat, do you no the command to kill network starting at boot up?
[04:36] <[Wiebel] > erUSUL: ok
[04:36] <LinuxJones> tigermb, In the gconf-editor (don't know exactly where though :( )
[04:36] <[Wiebel] > i'll look for it
[04:36] <CarlFK> pedri2 - start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:36] <rob^> ubotu no usplash is in Breezy: sudo apt-get install usplash, for more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss
[04:36] <ubotu> okay, rob^
[04:36] <straw> hey peopls
[04:36] <mahounoai> erUSUL: when i installed the j2re1.5, it didn't register with firefox
[04:36] <FireCat> stephen_laptop: No, why do you ask?
[04:37] <straw> would you want to chat?
[04:37] <mahounoai> erUSUL: is the a config file for firefox, maybe?
[04:38] <harrytuttle> somebody could tell me what was the reason to split languages in packs in main? just to cut down the size of the install cd?
[04:38] <pedri2> CarlFK: thanks, do i have to install gnome meeting package coz i use kubuntu
[04:38] <DjKritical> Anyone know how to stop using onboard sound and start using usb sound?
[04:38] <n00blar> er4z0r, am I supposed to add those sources to my source-list?
[04:38] <ompaul> pedri2, http://tinyurl.com/7hujd may be of use two ubuntu resources on webcameras
[04:38] <FireCat> steven_laptop: I've seen slow boots because of lack of network, but from memory it is because of ntp
[04:39] <marc^> finally got it installed
[04:39] <hablandocontigo> My guess is this is the nfs port for Mac 548		afpovertcp  but my Ubuntu distro 2049 port is open for NFS. I've had problems connecting this Tiger to the nfs share. Can someone help troubleshoot my problem?
[04:39] <CarlFK> pedri2  - don;t know - just know ofthat page ;)
[04:40] <abeth> hi
[04:41] <straw> hi jazz
[04:41] <straw> wanna chat?
[04:41] <denbeiren> hello
[04:41] <marc^> anyone know about setting up dual moniters?
[04:41] <rob^> wheres the asl first? hehe
[04:41] <NoctisDei> hi. i am trying to compile xchat 2.4.5 but it gives an error: Could not run GTK+ test program ... can someone help?
[04:41] <heartEye> ok I want to install RealPlayer.  Where is the directory where program files are kept?
[04:41] <rob^> NoctisDei, one question: why?
[04:42] <mahounoai> hearteye: did you check the mplayer site?
[04:42] <NoctisDei> rob^: because it's the new version?
[04:42] <marc^> second moniter is currently blurred and stretched, probably needs to be set 800x600 like my computer on windows
[04:42] <rob^> Breezy has 2.4.4
[04:42] <vanberge> im going to ask this in here just bc you guys are always helpful... is it possible to tell httpd to use physical ram instead of swap?  then have other processes use the swap?  :-/   tks in advance, wont ask again.
[04:42] <heartEye> its a mozilla plugin, mahounoai
[04:42] <rob^> what feature is in 2.4.5 that you need it so badly?
[04:42] <pacer> hello.  Anyone know why section 2 from man pages is empty?
[04:42] <NoctisDei> rob^: security bugs
[04:42] <dr_willis> vanberge,  its not worth messing with. Linux is so good at when to use swap file ior not.
[04:42] <NoctisDei> rob^: check xchat website
[04:43] <NoctisDei> anyway... can someone help?
[04:43] <steven_Laptop> marc^, you running nvidia?
[04:43] <rob^> NoctisDei, they are patched into the package
[04:43] <vanberge> dr_willis, well, in my case it would be kind of worth it...  httpd uses swap alot
[04:43] <steven_Laptop> marc^, m running daul
[04:44] <NoctisDei> rob^: don't understand... xchat 2.4.4 is already patched?
[04:44] <marc^> ati
[04:44] <marc^> radeon 9550
[04:44] <dr_willis> vanberge,  ive seen a large # of debates/articals on trying to outsmart linux and how it uses swap or real ram.. and they almost alwyas agreed - its not gaining you anything.. there may be some other apache twe4aks that may help you however.
[04:44] <marc^> ive got it set up properly in windows, main 1024x768 and second 800x600
[04:44] <steven_Laptop> ouch good luck Im running nvidia there not even close
[04:44] <pacer> Anyone know why section 2 from man pages is empty?
[04:44] <p0windah> vanberge: yould ofcourse try out lighttpd
[04:45] <thespiritoftal> I just turn on my computer and realized that package manager is working... why is that? does it do updates automatically? or what else may be the reason?
[04:45] <p0windah> you could...
[04:45] <pacer> Anyone know why section 2 from man pages is empty?
[04:45] <NoctisDei> rob^: is xchat 2.4.4 (ubuntu package) already patched?
[04:45] <rob^> NoctisDei, hang on just checking
[04:45] <p0windah> pacer: sometimes the developers just havent got anything to stick in them
[04:45] <NoctisDei> rob^: ok
[04:45] <steven_Laptop> marc^, ATI is a bitch in linux
[04:45] <marc^> oh goody
[04:46] <p0windah> pacer: if you want to double check, try: apt-get install --reinstall package
[04:46] <erUSUL> thespiritoftal: yes it does or maybe you sved the sesion with synaptic open
[04:46] <marc^> well, im considering a 6600gt
[04:46] <marc^> :)
[04:46] <vanberge> mainly i'd just like to give httpd higher priority...
[04:46] <heartEye> wtf is the Prefix for Symbolic Links?
[04:46] <pedri2> do i have to install gnome meeting to get my usb webcam working?
[04:46] <erUSUL> steven_Laptop: i'm quite happy with my ati and radeon drivers. man radeon
[04:46] <p0windah> vanberge: have you tried lighttpd ?
[04:46] <steven_Laptop> marc^, NVdia rocks in linux
[04:46] <marc^> erUSUL,  you know anything about dual moniters?
[04:47] <steven_Laptop> erUSUL, you running daul monitors?
[04:47] <vanberge> p0windah, no...
[04:47] <p0windah> vanberge: I switched from apache and recommend it
[04:47] <rob^> NoctisDei, I cant tell you for sure, but if not they will be shortly
[04:48] <erUSUL> steven_Laptop: marc^ no :(
[04:48] <p0windah> vanberge: its memory footprint is lighter, its faster and supports native fast-cgi load balancing
[04:48] <pacer> p0windah: How can i get the Linux Programmer's manual ?
[04:48] <vanberge> p0windah, what about mysql, ssl, etc.
[04:48] <NoctisDei> rob^: ok... but, i want to compile xchat now. and gives that error. can you help me?
[04:48] <marc^> well, way to fix it is to set res 800x600 and 60hz
[04:48] <p0windah> vanberge: yup, yup and yup
[04:48] <marc^> but i want the main window as 1024 and at least 75 hz
[04:48] <rob^> NoctisDei, what is the security problem?
[04:48] <erUSUL> marc^ but the man page for radeon says it support dual head and Xinerama
[04:48] <p0windah> vanberge: sites like isohunt that are both database and hit heavy are using it right now
[04:49] <NoctisDei> rob^: i don't know. but i just want to compile it...
[04:49] <steven_Laptop> erUSUL, hehehe thats were it falls  been there tryed that mashed that...
[04:49] <erUSUL> Marc^ try googling a bit
[04:49] <waltz> Question: Has the autogreeter crash been fixed in 5.10?
[04:49] <NoctisDei> everything is ok except that strange error (Could not run GTK+ test program)
[04:49] <ompaul> !ops
[04:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[04:49] <rob^> NoctisDei, check out http://xchat.org/changelog.txt
[04:49] <waltz> When I loaded Ubuntu last time, for some reason it couldn't enter the desktop environment
[04:50] <NoctisDei> it detects glib, openssl, ipv6... but no gtk+ *sigh*
[04:50] <marc^> maybe ill try sleeping a bit
[04:50] <NoctisDei> ok.............
[04:50] <rob^> its probably not worth compiling for that
[04:50] <marc^> almost 1am
[04:50] <dr_willis> waltz,  what crash?
[04:50] <marc^> can i access other hard drives with ubuntu
[04:50] <p0windah> marc^: sure can
[04:50] <marc^> cause i have no music here
[04:50] <dr_willis> marc^,  you can mount them and access them all ya want.
[04:51] <[Wiebel] > erUSUL: is it for you inpossible to reinstall w32codecs as well?
[04:51] <erUSUL> !tell marc^ about windowsdrives
[04:51] <waltz> dr_willis: I loaded Ubuntu onto a 400 gig HDD, and then for some reason, after it had finished loading, it couldn't start the "autogreeter" program.
[04:51] <dr_willis> waltz,  im not even sure what you mean by the auto-gteeter program. :P i just installed it twide here last night on 2 diff machines.. no probopems so far.
[04:51] <rob^>
[04:52] <waltz> hmm
[04:52] <vertigo> Is universe and multiverse access not available for breezy?
[04:52] <rob^> vertigo, it is
[04:52] <ompaul> RichiH, long time no see :)
[04:52] <dr_willis> Hmm.. given a group of several ubuntu box's on the same lan.. there an easy way to get ONE machien to download the updates and  so forth. and then have the otehr machines use THAT machines copies? not redownload the updates
[04:52] <rob^> !repos
[04:52] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:52] <vertigo> I am getting errors in synaptic once I remove the ## for them
[04:52] <Sundar> hi all
[04:52] <dr_willis> vertigo,  use 'sudo apt-get update' first
[04:52] <p0windah> dr_willis: there is
[04:53] <RichiH> ompaul: and not under a good star, either
[04:53] <Sundar> I want xmms for unbuntu
[04:53] <Sundar> can anyone help me ? pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ?
[04:53] <rob^> vertigo, you don't remove all of the ##, only the ones that are commenting out the deb lines
[04:53] <dr_willis> Sundar,  then apt-get install it. :P
[04:53] <ompaul> RichiH, no I jave called for ops
[04:53] <dr_willis> Sundar,  i just isntalled it and a dozen+ plugins for xmms.
[04:53] <Sundar> dr_willis:  apt-get install xmms ?
[04:53] <Angel-SL> how do i get chinese?
[04:53] <_Soldier_> buenas
[04:53] <rob^> whats with all the people joining/parting?
[04:53] <ompaul> Sundar, with the word sudo in front of that
[04:53] <dr_willis> Sundar,  time to read up on the fundamentals of installing things and using apt-get and synaptic :P
[04:53] <pacer> How can i get the Linux Programmer's manual in my man pages?
[04:53] <p0windah> dr_willis: check out approx and apt-proxy
[04:54] <n00blar> dr_willis, actually it works as apt-get install xmms-ui
[04:54] <vertigo> I know that, and that's exactly what I did
[04:54] <ompaul> rob^ bot attack
[04:54] <vanberge> p0windah, there must be a way to run httpd with a higher priority though?
[04:54] <rob^> super..
[04:54] <vertigo> It worked on hoary
[04:54] <p0windah> what is that going to achieve ?
[04:54] <vertigo> and it bitches at me in breezy
[04:54] <erUSUL> [Wiebel] : not a problem for me
[04:54] <firsttimer> hi, can anyone help me set up my wireless card? I followed the wiki on both ndiswrapper and ubuntu but it still dosent work
[04:54] <erUSUL> vanberge: man nice
[04:54] <Angel-SL> how do i get chinese fonts?
[04:55] <waltz> What could be the possibilities of the auto-greeter program crash? Bad CD? Bad HDD? ...the fact that the HDD is connected to a motherboard which previously ran Win32? ...
[04:55] <p0windah> Angel-SL: apt-get install ttf-arphic*
[04:55] <[Wiebel] > erUSUL: hmm
[04:55] <[Wiebel] > that's strange
[04:55] <_Soldier_> i am newbie, i am thinking in to install ubuntu. what do you think that i must be use, lilo or grub?
[04:55] <Sundar> dr_willis:
[04:55] <Sundar> sudo apt-get install xmms
[04:55] <Sundar> Reading package lists... Done
[04:55] <Sundar> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:55] <Sundar> Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:55] <Sundar> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:55] <Sundar> is only available from another source
[04:55] <Sundar> E: Package xmms has no installation candidate
[04:55] <p0windah> heh
[04:55] <rob^> NoctisDei, I really wouldn't bother
[04:55] <p0windah> you bad
[04:55] <[Wiebel] > erUSUL: i'm running breezy, with hoary-extras in m'n apt sources
[04:55] <[Wiebel] > should work right?
[04:55] <firsttimer> _soldier_ lilo is suppose to be more advanced
[04:55] <erUSUL> Sundar: do *not* flood the channel use pastebin as stated on the topic
[04:56] <dr_willis> Sundar,  try 'sudo apt-cache xmms' and see if  its in some other package name
[04:56] <rob^> bob2, you around?
[04:56] <n00blar> Sundar, try apt-get install xmms-ui instead
[04:56] <Sundar> dr_willis: thanks
[04:56] <anyw> Is there a way to get kde 3.5 with breezy ?
[04:56] <dr_willis> i tend to just use synaptic and  click on everything that said xmms at the front. :P
[04:56] <erUSUL> [Wiebel] : well i'm on haory you will have to live with the shotcomings of an unstable release ;)
[04:56] <bayram> halo
[04:56] <p0windah> vanberge: I dont use apache anymore, and although I am sure you can increase its priority. how do you expect things to play out with reiser, mysql, and whatever cgi you are running ?
[04:56] <firsttimer> hi, can anyone help me set up my wireless card? I followed the wiki on both ndiswrapper and ubuntu but it still dosent work
[04:57] <ompaul> rob^, used the bot to call for ups they all have been informed if they are online - now the question is are they looking, obviously not so we go again in a few minutes
[04:57] <p0windah> vanberge: increasing its priority, to the detriment of other processes
[04:57] <pacer> p0windah: How can i get the Linux Programmer's manual in my man pages?
[04:57] <Sundar> dr_willis: n00blar: nothing works :'(
[04:57] <p0windah> pacer: apt-cache search linux manual
[04:57] <rob^> ompaul, yeah I'll see if I can track them down
[04:57] <vanberge> p0windah, im not too worried about them... the httpd processes are the ones that take the most resources, so i want them to be processed with higher priority
[04:57] <ompaul> Sundar, please use paste.ubuntulinux.nl when you have a lot of data or #flood
[04:58] <p0windah> vanberge: switch to lighttpd then
[04:58] <Sundar> ok
[04:58] <_Soldier_> can i talk in pm with any people to ask a questions?
[04:58] <p0windah> _Soldier_: you can try :)
[04:58] <gncuster> hi there, does anyone know how to control the color depth for an external crt using i855crt?
[04:58] <bayram> wie kann ich xine ber ubuntu instaliere
[04:58] <firsttimer> _Soldier_, what qauestion?
[04:58] <erUSUL> _Soldier_: ask here
[04:58] <lonewolff> _Soldier_: best to ask in channel, where there are more people to answer your question
[04:58] <_Soldier_> I have a lot questions
[04:58] <ompaul> RichiH, can you make this place +r, if so  please be our guest
[04:58] <n00blar> Sundar, u may need to add sources to your source-list file
[04:59] <p0windah> _Soldier_: have you read www.ubuntuguide.org ?
[04:59] <Sundar> n00blar: how to add ?
[04:59] <rob^> !ubuntuguide
[04:59] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[04:59] <dolmen> _Soldier_: are you a bot?
[04:59] <ompaul> _Soldier_, dont use that
[04:59] <firsttimer> !faq
[04:59] <ubotu> faq is, like, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[04:59] <p0windah> the guide isnt that bad
[04:59] <rob^> p0windah, yes it is
[04:59] <rob^> see above
[04:59] <ompaul> p0windah, it may work for you, but _please_ do not suggest it to anyone
[05:00] <ompaul> RichiH, thanks
[05:00] <_Soldier_> yeah, i read a ubuntu guide
[05:00] <_Soldier_> but i want to ask opinion to install ubuntu on my laptop
[05:00] <p0windah> so whats the sanctioned link ?
[05:00] <ompaul> p0windah, nope, smell broken machines, and people crying about stuff not working
[05:00] <ompaul> p0windah, wiki and faq
[05:00] <p0windah> gotcha
[05:01] <p0windah> _Soldier_: read the topic and dont ask to ask
[05:01] <p0windah> better ?
[05:01] <firsttimer> can anyone help me trouble shoot my wireless card problem, driver is installed, power light for card is on, but iwlint wlan0 scan yields nothing
[05:01] <ompaul> p0windah, say it with love :)
[05:01] <anyw> No way to have kde 3.5 with uuntu ?
[05:01] <stelki> Hello, is there a program to see how good your wireless connection is?
[05:01] <firsttimer> er iwlist...
[05:01] <_Soldier_> ok
[05:01] <firsttimer> stelki, try reading iwlist and iwconfig man pages
[05:01] <apsync> is it possible to change the port in GNOME BitTorrent?
[05:01] <stelki> firsttimer, ok :)) thanks
[05:01] <n00blar> Ok, I have xmms and libdvdcss2 and can't watch any dvds still. Xine complaints that it can't read the source. Any ideas?
[05:01] <vanberge> nice --10 /etc/init.d/httpd start    :-)
[05:02] <vanberge> p0windah, i can already tell that makes a difference
[05:02] <firsttimer> maybe there is a wireless channel I should be asking on?
[05:02] <ompaul> n00blar, did you do it the way it is described on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?
[05:02] <erUSUL> n00blar: have you set the correct device in preferences for xine
[05:02] <p0windah> vanberge: I'm sure you can :)
[05:02] <stelki> firsttimer, mine is named ath0.. is it not listed in ifconfig?
[05:02] <Sundar> is there any command to list the packages that are available in net via apt-get ?
[05:03] <stelki> firsttimer, sorry if its a stupid suggestion, I dont know anything about it
[05:03] <waltz> What could be the possibilities of the auto-greeter program crash? Bad CD? Bad HDD? ...the fact that the HDD is connected to a motherboard which previously ran Win32? ...
[05:03] <firsttimer> stelki, usually your wirelss card will be wlan0 or wlan1 or the like
[05:03] <reiki> Sundar: you can open Synaptic, highlight "all" ... and browse or search
[05:03] <Angel-SL> still
[05:03] <firsttimer> stelki, when you plug your card in do you get its power light to come on? or are you using some internal wireless card?
[05:04] <p0windah> Angel-SL: fonts working ?
[05:04] <Talky> can anyone tell me whats the proper iocharset for fat32 partitions
[05:04] <Talky> i have set it to utf8
[05:04] <Angel-SL> p0windah: not even after i restarted X
[05:04] <stelki> firsttimer, yea, the led is blinking
[05:04] <p0windah> Angel-SL: let me check, I have chinese fonts installed
[05:04] <firsttimer> stelki, the power or signal led?
[05:04] <stelki> firsttimer, both
[05:04] <Talky> but it gives me warinnig that its not proper iocharset
[05:04] <waltz> Could someone please respond to my question?
[05:04] <ompaul> RichiH, see this: http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/64014 ?
[05:04] <erUSUL> Talky: it depends on where you can from...
[05:05] <pacer> p0windah: Thank you very much ;)
[05:05] <firsttimer> stelki well thats good...
[05:05] <n00blar> erUSUL, it actually reads the title of the dvd, but it won't play it. And going through the setup screen half of those tabs say..there's no config option to display
[05:05] <stelki> firsttimer, I didnt even install a driver, its some netgear thing, but tahts no help for you
[05:05] <erUSUL> Talky: it depends on where you come from...
[05:05] <erUSUL> n00blar: :(
[05:05] <Talky> uhuh erUSUL
[05:05] <Talky> didn't get you
[05:05] <ompaul> Talky, a lot of people use iocharset=iso8859-1
[05:05] <reiki> waltz: define "auto-greeter"
[05:05] <p0windah> Angel-SL: apt-get install xfonts-intl-chinese*
[05:06] <p0windah> Angel-SL: that should install traditional and simplifed
[05:06] <firsttimer> stelki, can you register with your wireless connection?
[05:06] <Talky> ic ompaul thnx
[05:06] <Talky> :)
[05:06] <waltz> reiki: After all the libraries are loaded, Ubuntu supposedly starts the auto-greeter program, which starts X-Windows....
[05:06] <erUSUL> n00blar: well i do not know how to help you further... so :(
[05:06] <ompaul> Talky, what erUSUL was saying was it depends on your location which set you tend to use
[05:06] <stelki> firsttimer, what do you mean register? it works, yea.. im not using secure wifi though, wouldnt let me connect using it, still investigating
[05:07] <firsttimer> stelki, what are you trying to troubleshoot then if its working?
[05:07] <waltz> Do you know what I'm talking about?
[05:07] <MrFaber> hi all
[05:07] <stelki> firsttimer, im not troubleshooting anything, was trying to help you heh, but im not much of a help
[05:07] <MrFaber> Is this the right channel to post bugs or ask for solutions?
[05:07] <firsttimer> stelki, oh ic lol
[05:07] <p0windah> Angel-SL: apt-get install ttf-microsoft-sim*  <- simli and simyou from microsoft
[05:08] <MrFaber> RichiH, :)
[05:08] <ompaul> MrFaber, ask for solutions, and we will if it a bug point you to reporting it :) buzilla.ubuntu.com so don't ask to ask let's play who has a bug today :)
[05:08] <CarlFK> other than vi, is there a command line way to add a repo to /etc/apt/sources?
[05:08] <p0windah> CarlFK: no
[05:08] <CarlFK> I want to script it
[05:08] <firsttimer> stelki, well my problem when i type iwlist wlan0 scan it does nothing
[05:09] <MrFaber> ok, I have a problem that always when my frequency changes my mouse stops for one or two seconds
[05:09] <erUSUL> CarlFK: a dozen or so XD
[05:09] <CarlFK> XD?
[05:09] <firsttimer> mrfaber, you cpu freq?
[05:09] <p0windah> there are many
[05:09] <MrFaber> yes
[05:09] <MrFaber> Filbert, yes
[05:09] <MrFaber> :)
[05:09] <MrFaber> firsttimer, yes
[05:09] <stelki> firsttimer, sounds weird, try opening network-admin and see if its there? thats all I did
[05:09] <MrFaber> to much users :)
[05:09] <Sundar> I want X-devel ( .h & lib ) files ? I couldn't find in synaptic
[05:09] <erUSUL> echo "source line" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:10] <Angel-SL> right
[05:10] <firsttimer> stelki, ill try that right after breakfast ;-)
[05:10] <p0windah> Angel-SL: fixed ?
[05:10] <Sundar> how can I install it >
[05:10] <stelki> firsttimer, ok =)
[05:10] <Angel-SL> p0windah: uh-uh..restarted X...
[05:10] <Talky> :(
[05:10] <Sundar> anybosy pleaseeeeeeeee
[05:10] <p0windah> Angel-SL: that's great
[05:10] <RichiH> ompaul: ah, now i can place you completely. selfhtml?
[05:10] <dooglus> hi all.  what file contains the "Xlib" library please?
[05:10] <Angel-SL> p0windah: i'm trying to view with gedit..no results..:(
[05:10] <RichiH> ompaul: and yes, i read that :)
[05:11] <firsttimer> j
[05:11] <RichiH> ompaul: cu, til the next time :)
[05:11] <Angel-SL> p0windah: hello? it isnt fixed yet
[05:11] <CarlFK> man aptget is confusing me.  where do I put --assume-yes? (before or after "install")
[05:11] <MrFaber> Which cpu frequency utility is used by ubuntu?
[05:12] <p0windah> Angel-SL: so whats working and what isnt working ?
[05:12] <Angel-SL> CarlFK: after.
[05:12] <CarlFK> thanks
[05:12] <MrFaber> Kernel ondemand module works very fine for me on other distro
[05:12] <Angel-SL> p0windah: nothing is worlking for chinese/
[05:12] <erUSUL> CarlFK: try both and see what happens
[05:12] <p0windah> Angel-SL: ok, what kind of settings do you have in your /etc/locale.gen file ?
[05:12] <MrFaber> Has anyone the same problem?
[05:13] <erUSUL> Angel-SL: have you generated the locales?
[05:13] <p0windah> Angel-SL: and if you load up gedit, can you see the chinese fonts you installed in the font list dialog ?
[05:13] <Angel-SL> p0windah: i can erUSUL: i havent done anything with locales p0windah: locales file only has en_SG ISO-8859-1
[05:13] <CarlFK> erUSUL - like this: apt-get --assume-yes install --assume-yes curl ;)
[05:14] <p0windah> ah ok
[05:14] <p0windah> Angel-SL: you probably want to change the 8859-1 to utf-8
[05:14] <p0windah> UTF-8, rather
[05:14] <Angel-SL> wil english still work then?
[05:14] <p0windah> yes it will
[05:14] <p0windah> but SG wont work in 8859-1
[05:15] <Kejk_PL> hi, utf-8 is still not good idea for Polish users. I'm using iso8859-2 :)
[05:15] <vertigo> When I remove the ## from my sources.list, I get this error, using breezy
[05:15] <vertigo> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:15] <vertigo> What the hell is that about?
[05:15] <erUSUL> Angel-SL: and maybe you need to restar x or xft to reload system fonts
[05:16] <erUSUL> vertigo: you are using an unstable release live with it ;)
[05:16] <CarlFK> vertigo - paste your sources.list to the paste page that is around here...
[05:16] <MrFaber> I have an old Dell Inspiron 8200 with 1200/1600 MHZ. It only hangs for some seconds when cpu freq is changed back to 1.2 GHZ
[05:16] <Talky> can anyone let me know how to change the default setting GRUB
[05:16] <vertigo> Carl, it's the default for the Breezy preview
[05:16] <Talky> i want to boot window xp as default
[05:16] <Talky> os
[05:16] <vertigo> Should I just replace them with a mirror?
[05:16] <CarlFK> vertigo - you tweeked it
[05:17] <CarlFK> Talky - vi /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:17] <vertigo> Carl, all I did was remove the ## for the universe repository, that's all
[05:17] <marc`> the -real- #ubuntu
[05:17] <vertigo> works for Hoary
[05:17] <apsync> how come some things don't get saved when I close pc?
[05:17] <MrFaber> Talky, edit /boo/grub/menu.lst
[05:17] <Talky> what next CarlFK
[05:17] <MrFaber> :)
[05:18] <Talky> then MrFaber
[05:18] <Talky> .......
[05:18] <Talky> what should i edit there
[05:18] <Talky> ?
[05:18] <MrFaber> Is XP already listed?
[05:18] <apsync> how come some things don't get saved when I close pc?
[05:18] <CarlFK> look for default
[05:18] <ompaul> marc`, hu?
[05:18] <vertigo> WTF!
[05:18] <vertigo> I restarted synaptic and it worked
[05:18] <Talky> yes MrFaber
[05:18] <MrFaber> Talky, and change the value to the position of xp
[05:18] <vertigo> there are strange things afoot in breezytown
[05:18] <MrFaber> just count :)
[05:18] <marc`> just trying to get registered to get here
[05:19] <MrFaber> Talky, and count the information lines with it
[05:19] <CarlFK> Talky - change "default         0" to "default         1" or "default  saved"
[05:19] <marc`> thanks to whoever told me how to load windows hard drives
[05:19] <CarlFK> I like "saved":
[05:20] <Talky> thnx MrFaber
[05:20] <Talky> thnx CarlFK
[05:20] <Talky> CarlFK
[05:20] <Talky> one more query
[05:20] <CarlFK> yer welcome
[05:20] <CarlFK> no need to stop at on ;)
[05:20] <CarlFK> one
[05:21] <ompaul> Talky, could you please keep all your text on the one line, it would take up a lot less screen space and let someone who is slower have a chance to read the screen :)
[05:22] <p0windah> sounded like a, "I've got this friend who is a slow.... but its not me" explanation ompaul
[05:22] <Sundar> where can I get xorg-devel packages ?
[05:22] <CarlFK> lol
[05:22] <marc`> so i've got my other hard drives, need an MP3 plugin
[05:22] <ompaul> p0windah, now calling me slow might be something you can get away with now and again  :)
[05:22] <Sundar> anybody here to help me..................................
[05:23] <CarlFK> all your packages belog to http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:23] <p0windah> I can see the line and will be careful not to cross it
[05:23] <FireCat> Sundar: Did anyone pm you to try to help you?  :)
[05:23] <Talky> how can i configure the winmodem (conexant HSF modem ) in ubuntu?
[05:23] <ompaul> Sundar, if you  stopped asking a second time I might actually take the time to answer your first question
[05:23] <uklondon> if i get files not found on mirror when using ''apt-get update' can i change the mirror and how would i do it ?
[05:24] <marc`> workspaces just caught me out
[05:24] <marc`> where did all my windows go!?
[05:24] <CarlFK> Sundar guessing you want xorg source?  or just headers?  (im kinda clueless about packaged source)
[05:25] <Talky> ok ompaul :), i will try :)
[05:25] <uklondon> can anyone help me
[05:25] <setite-SFD> this is not a help channel... are you nuts?
[05:25] <setite-SFD> haha
[05:25] <uklondon> if i get files not found on mirror when using ''apt-get update' can i change the mirror and how would i do it ? <-
[05:26] <p0windah> uklondon: in a terminal type "sudo apt-get update"
[05:26] <p0windah> uklondon: then re-try
[05:26] <uklondon> i did
[05:26] <uklondon> i did
[05:26] <uklondon> more than 4 times
[05:26] <setite-SFD> what mirror is failing
[05:26] <CarlFK> uklondon - do you like command line or GUI?
[05:26] <p0windah> uklondon: do you know how to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file ?
[05:26] <Paradosso> what mail client do you people use?
[05:26] <setite-SFD> CarlFK - im assuming apt-get update woudl have been in CLI... just a guess
[05:26] <marc`> how do i get an mp3 plugin
[05:26] <CarlFK> good point
[05:27] <setite-SFD> !tell marc` about mp3
[05:27] <uklondon> i can do both CarlFK
[05:27] <p0windah> setite-SFD is certainly wise
[05:27] <uklondon> but not at the moment im on putty from work
[05:27] <wsmith> .ubuntufaq
[05:27] <setite-SFD> uklondon join #flood and paste the failures from the console in there
[05:27] <CarlFK> uklondon - setite-SFD got you covered
[05:27] <uklondon> ok
[05:27] <p0windah> uklondon: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change uk.archive(I'm guessing) to us.archive
[05:27] <wsmith> marc`, ubuntuguide.org
[05:27] <Sundar> how can I install a package from .deb file ?
[05:27] <ompaul> setite-SFD, if you use pastbin.ubuntulinux.nl then it lasts longer :)
[05:28] <CarlFK> setite-SFD - how come whenI ask for a paste I get flack? ;)
[05:28] <wsmith> Sundar, dpkg --instal <fn>
[05:28] <wsmith> --install
[05:28] <setite-SFD> yea changing to us... or no us at all perhaps...
[05:28] <Belutz> Sundar: dpkg -i package.deb
[05:28] <ompaul> Sundar, is it not available already for Ubuntu?
[05:28] <setite-SFD> oh your using marillat
[05:28] <setite-SFD> hmmm yucj
[05:28] <drapelyk> what is my groupname on a standard server install?
[05:28] <uklondon> p0windah, ok ill try that
[05:28] <p0windah> drapelyk: pinky
[05:28] <setite-SFD> uklondon - i must ask what are you using marillat for
[05:28] <Sundar> thanks
[05:29] <uklondon> dunno
[05:29] <drapelyk> p0windah really?
[05:29] <uklondon> im new to linux
[05:29] <p0windah> drapelyk: j/k
[05:29] <setite-SFD> hes using marilla... there is no uk in them
[05:29] <drapelyk> p0windah lol... I was gonna say...
[05:29] <ompaul> marillet is not the way
[05:29] <p0windah> uklondon: I use hk.archive(in hong kong) and most countries has local repositories
[05:29] <setite-SFD> uklondon what are you trying to get
[05:29] <ompaul> restricted is the way to do that kind of thing
[05:29] <uklondon> well alot of thing
[05:29] <uklondon> s
[05:29] <setite-SFD> marillat is no longer a necessary evil with backports and hoary-extras
[05:29] <uklondon> originaly linx
[05:29] <uklondon> or link2
[05:29] <uklondon> or links
[05:30] <drapelyk> Anyone: what is my groupname on a standard server install?
[05:30] <uklondon> what do i nedd to change exsacltly
[05:30] <ompaul> !tell uklondon about restricted
[05:30] <setite-SFD> im in windoze atm... is links not on the backports or hoary-extras?
[05:30] <p0windah> drapelyk: groupname for what program ?
[05:30] <CarlFK> duh... what happened to libdvdcss2 ?
[05:30] <setite-SFD> !hoary-extras
[05:30] <ubotu> I heard hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[05:30] <ompaul> uklondon, that link from the channel bot will help with codecs
[05:30] <drapelyk> p0windah, i'm installing Apache2 and configuring the User and Group entries
[05:30] <uklondon> ok paul
[05:30] <CarlFK> as in: E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[05:30] <setite-SFD> !tell uklondon about hoary-extras
[05:31] <p0windah> drapelyk: i see, I think apache uses www-data ?
[05:31] <p0windah> someone correct me if I'm wrong ?
[05:31] <CarlFK> p0windah - yer correct
[05:31] <drapelyk> p0windah, right, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?highlight=%28MySQL%29
[05:31] <pedri2> im currently installing breezy preview release on a separate computer, what does LVM mean?
[05:32] <Sundar> thanks guy... for helping me.
[05:32] <Sundar> thanks to all
[05:32] <TheRepublic> i got a question
[05:32] <p0windah> drapelyk: whats special about that page ?
[05:32] <mjr> setite-SFD, Hurd ;)
[05:32] <p0windah> setite-SFD: BeOS calls to you
[05:32] <dr_willis> why bother. :P
[05:32] <TheRepublic> how can i install the VLC player using the 5.10 PR  Live CD
[05:32] <dr_willis> CPM!
[05:33] <drapelyk> You may want your current user to be the PHP pages administrator. Search both the strings starting by "User" and "Group", and change the names by the current username and groupname you are using.
[05:33] <setite-SFD> sundar - what is suse like... i think i tried it for like a day... but that was a livecd i think...
[05:33] <ompaul> setite-SFD, ubuntu - kubuntu - edubuntu ?
[05:33] <setite-SFD> ompaul - nah one untu is enough :)
[05:33] <setite-SFD> ompaul - im looking for a faster OS... particularly a 64bit os...
[05:34] <TheRepublic> anyone ?
[05:34] <ompaul> setite-SFD, #gentoo out of the channel turn left third door on the right :)
[05:34] <p0windah> drapelyk: I see
[05:34] <kevor> setite-SFD: if you want a faster OS, install ubuntu SERVER and apt-get install xfce4
[05:34] <kevor> period
[05:34] <drapelyk> p0windah, I just don't know what to do
[05:34] <setite-SFD> ompaul - thanks... im looking into them, and slamd64
[05:34] <p0windah> drapelyk: what that means, is if you dont like the default username/password that apache is using; you can change it so something else
[05:34] <mjr> setite-SFD, hmm, faster, 64-bit, hey, I know, Ubuntu/AMD64
[05:35] <drapelyk> what does www-data mean?
[05:35] <p0windah> drapelyk: but since I think you are new to this, leave it as is, since most howto's/guides will assume you have a default installation
[05:35] <uklondon> ok i still have error
[05:35] <p0windah> drapelyk: the user used for apache is "www-data" and the group is also called "www-data"
[05:35] <ompaul> TheRepublic, you can't keep it on that CD but you can burn the deb onto another disk if you have it, do this >>>> /msg ubotu tell me about synaptic
[05:35] <lsuactiafner> setite-SFD : fastest is gentoo, most effort also. ubuntu is decent and least effort
[05:35] <p0windah> drapelyk: unless you've got a very good reason to change it to another user and group, its fine to leave it be
[05:35] <uklondon> can someone make me a  /etc/apt/sources.list file and paste it on pastebin.com
[05:35] <setite-SFD> mjr - thats what i have... but it has no speed over 32bit... firefox, OOo, and such still open same speed... in slamd64 i hear OOo opens in under 3 seconds on a 64bit cpu much slower than mine
[05:35] <drapelyk> p0windah is that not a security issue?
[05:36] <lsuactiafner> setite-SFD : gentoo is fastest non-commerical linux
[05:36] <p0windah> drapelyk: its more of an issue if you use one of your desktop accounts actually
[05:36] <drapelyk> ok
[05:36] <drapelyk> Thanks
[05:36] <p0windah> uklondon: post your sources.list onto the site
[05:36] <uklondon> setite-SFD, can you please check my lastest errors
[05:36] <ompaul> Sundar I know those sources are out there, I can't find them, I have been looking, will continue to :)
[05:36] <uklondon> ok
[05:36] <uklondon> i can since im on putty
[05:36] <lsuactiafner> setite-SFD : firefox is faster in 64bit, use it heavily, open around 200 tabs then switch tabs quickly
[05:36] <uklondon> cant8
[05:37] <lsuactiafner> you will see the difference
[05:37] <uklondon> oh wait
[05:37] <uklondon> i can
[05:37] <uklondon> meh
[05:37] <setite-SFD> uklondon i seriously would avoid marillat if possible... its just not quality
[05:37] <setite-SFD> try libdvdcss2 there... see how badly it decodes
[05:37] <uklondon> how can i take it off ?
[05:37] <uklondon> can someone make me a  /etc/apt/sources.list file and paste it on pastebin.com
[05:37] <setite-SFD> put a # in front of all the lines on your sources.list
[05:37] <uklondon> ok
[05:37] <setite-SFD> in console sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:37] <lsuactiafner> i agree, those mplayer packages really suck, but unless you compile it yourself its best to use those packages
[05:38] <trilliji> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:38] <Talky> how can i modify or alter the chat script in modem
[05:39] <Talky> i want to change the timeout setting
[05:39] <uklondon> setite-SFD, http://pastebin.com/366380
[05:39] <uklondon> is thast right
[05:39] <ompaul> uklondon, that looks good
[05:40] <uklondon> wow no errors
[05:40] <uklondon> ty for help
[05:40] <ompaul> uklondon, before you go
[05:40] <uklondon> yes
[05:40] <uklondon> im notleaving
[05:40] <ompaul> uklondon, have a look at that page about restricted that uboto messaged you with eariler
[05:41] <uklondon> yes briefly
[05:41] <uklondon> i think everything is working ok now
[05:41] <ompaul> uklondon,  the foot of that has a script in it that if you remove the first bit up to the actual package names it will look after all of that
[05:41] <uklondon> ty all for you pleasant help
[05:42] <p0windah> I barely helped, but I'll take pleasant
[05:42] <ompaul> Talky, have a look at pppconfig
[05:42] <uklondon> ompaul, im doing it right now ty
[05:42] <mike23> greetings
[05:43] <ompaul> mike23, hello
[05:43] <mike23> is there multiverse package fot brezy-badger?
[05:43] <selinium> any hdparm gurus about?
[05:43] <ompaul> mike23, yes
[05:43] <ompaul> mike23, yes, if I understand you,
[05:44] <mike23> well snaptic show a button for it but when i try to add it via gui notheing happens
[05:45] <uklondon> theres alot of downloading on that script
[05:45] <XKpe> hi
[05:45] <uklondon> :/
[05:46] <XKpe> on ddclient how can i get external ip from a usrobotics router?
[05:46] <ompaul> mike23, it works for me, I just added some repos
[05:46] <CarlFK> XKpe - try traceroute
[05:46] <mike23> I need the APt line?
[05:46] <CarlFK> XKpe - but Im guessing
[05:47] <mike23> Add repository address
[05:47] <ompaul> nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:47] <ompaul> mike23,  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:47] <setite-SFD> nano eh
[05:48] <ompaul> mike23, to get out of that program you need Ctrl+O (letter o to write stuff) and Ctrl+X to exit
[05:48] <ompaul> setite-SFD, you can only say that if your name is burns :)
[05:49] <uklondon> just a random question is .deb debian install pakages ?
[05:49] <dr_willis> hmm. On one ubuntu install (5.10) the screen blanks and locks.. on the other machine. it dosent lock.  wonder if thats because one is a laptop - and some powersaver is kicking in