[14:33] <minimec> [Lemmy]: Never happed to me. When I do this in gdm, gdm asks me to reload the gdm-manager in the choosen language. There i normally say no. My changes only count for the user I am logging in with.
[14:33] <mobi-sheep> !java | Roland mobi-sheep
[14:33] <false> part
[14:33] <qe2eqe> babamelone, well, ndiswrapper is for using windows inf to drive the wifi. Often, there's a native linux module for you wifi card.
[14:34] <[Lemmy]> minimec, that works that way on easypeasy as well... but what i want is a way to set the locale once per user, then never having to bother again
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> fredl:   a quick google says --> it can be obtained installing libgimp2.0-dev, via apt-get or Synaptic.
[14:34] <bazhang> AceKing, that was iplist.list or iplist.list.save
[14:34] <babamelone> qe2eqe: no, there is no native driver.
[14:34] <OttifantSir> icebaer: Header? You mean title-bar on the windows?
[14:34] <fredl> Dr_Willis, Hmmm, googling more and more becomes an art in itself I guess :) thanks
[14:34] <AceKing> bazhang: iplist.list.save
[14:35] <jrib> [Lemmy]: what does your ~/.dmrc look like for the user you changed the language for?
[14:35] <kLown> I'm having an issue trying to mount a WD netcenter harddrive on ubuntu jaunty.  I keep getting the error mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> fredl:  3rd hit on 'gimptool ubuntu' :)
[14:35] <bazhang> AceKing, what about iplist.list
[14:35] <mobi-sheep> Roland: /usr/lib/jvm/java-Something.
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> fredl:  and that !find gimptool said the same package name :0
[14:35] <mobi-sheep> Roland: Check it and see if you find something.
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> !find gimptool
[14:35] <qe2eqe> babamelone, I'd say test it non encrypted, if that's gravy, do a workaround with that. If not, try searching apt for wifi tools that might be appropriate for testing real connectivity and doing something about it, or maybe a script to restart it when a ping that goes out every 15 seconds fails
[14:35] <icebaer> OttifantSir: yeah
[14:35] <SingAlong> bazhang: I just connected an IC via a port and while coding the program for it I need to specify the port for it. I did lsusb and I found this "Bus 006 Device 002: ID 0403:6001 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT232 USB-Serial (UART) IC"
[14:35] <minimec> [Lemmy]: ok. When I am doing that for a user the first time, it asks me if I want to make the change permanent. Try to switch language for your wife once to german, and then to the other language again. It should ask you that 'permanent' question.
[14:36] <SingAlong> Now how do I specicy the port path while connecting?
[14:36] <[Lemmy]> jrib, i dont have any idea right now, i'm about one hour drive from the netbook in question... and it is switched off... and i didnt get around to enabling sshd on it yet ;)
[14:36] <SingAlong> *specify
[14:36] <[Lemmy]> minimec, i'll try that
[14:36] <AceKing> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/216938/
[14:36] <qe2eqe> babamelone, are you sure? Lots of cards share chips, and are rebrands of other cards...
[14:36] <babamelone> there actually is a driver, but only for older kernel versions
[14:36] <babamelone> its really strange, everything seems to work fine, despite this connection losses
[14:36] <babamelone> if its really connection losses, actually i just cannot ping anything anymore, the device is connected and theres an ip
[14:37] <babamelone> i am 100 % sure
[14:37] <babamelone> really
[14:37] <qe2eqe> babamelone, My router needs a 2.4 kernel to work =) and it works.
[14:37] <SingAlong> do I specify /dev/tty6 ?
[14:37] <bazhang> AceKing, anything else in /etc/apt/ ? its weird that feisty would show up as its not in any of those
[14:37] <babamelone> theres an ubuntu wiki page for this specific if, and it says i have to use ndiswrapper
[14:38] <qe2eqe> babamelone, well, I give up. Make sure you have the right version of the inf is my last idea.
[14:38] <AceKing> bazhang: there is one that says "sources.list.backup"
[14:38] <bazhang> AceKing, pastebin it please
[14:38] <SingAlong> babamelone: I had a hard time getting wifi working on my Acer 5020 laptop (I think i still remember the model number)
[14:38] <minimec> qe2eqe: Mine too ;) Mine is an ASUS ;) It would even run on a 2.6 if Broadcom would release the driver source... :(
[14:39] <SingAlong> babamelone: that was only because the acer guys had used an obselete wifi chip on that laptop. otherwise I've had no problems with wifi on other laptops.
[14:39] <AceKing> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/216939/
[14:40] <xxx1> hello
[14:43] <arand> Is there anywhere to find the Intrepid liveCDs currently? (DVDs are on ubuntu's servers but not CDs)
[14:43] <bazhang> AceKing, how did you get those #added by software properties? I am stumped where the feisty repos are being referenced
[14:43] <jrib> arand: cdimages.ubuntu.com should have them
[14:43] <dreamy> what recording app will have the bigger chances of recording a dvd(Rw) of satux .. with performance?
[14:44] <dreamy> with reliability
[14:44] <dreamy> do dvd(Rw) stay ok.. and work ?:S
[14:44] <jrib> arand: or releases.ubuntu.com
[14:44] <arand> jrib: like I said, I only saw the DVDs there.
[14:44] <AceKing> bazhang: I don't know
[14:44] <jrib> arand: no, you didn't say where is "there" :)
[14:44] <wbc> Is anyone here good with network in Ubuntu?
[14:44] <kLown> I'm having an issue trying to mount a WD netcenter harddrive on ubuntu jaunty.  I keep getting the error mount.nfs: access denied by server while trying to mount.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[14:45] <_ruben> wbc & kLown : ask the ubuntu people :)
[14:45] <Pici> _ruben: This *is* the Ubuntu support channel
[14:46]  * _ruben kicks his irc client and hides in a corner
[14:46] <kLown> I had to reread the channel after that comment ;x
[14:46] <wbc> How may I setup a wireless device in infrastructure mode, and not ad-hoc
[14:46] <wbc> So it shows up as a normal infrastructure connection on other devices
[14:46] <arand> jrib: ah, I took "ubuntu's servers" as implying that, as opposed to "ubuntu's homepage"... but anyways, so they're gone then?
[14:47] <DJones> arand: Try using http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#mirrors and selecting one of the download mirrors near to you
[14:47] <minimec> arand: ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/ubuntu-cdimage/intrepid/
[14:47] <jrib> arand: did you check the second link I gave you (they are there)?
[14:47] <arand> jrib: um yes, stupid me nevermind...
[14:48] <wbc> Any good with wireless networking?
[14:48] <wbc> Anyone*
[14:48] <arand> jrib: Why is cdimage and releases different and unlinked? hmm...
[14:48] <Xubuntnoob> jrib, have you had a chance to peek at that script?
[14:48] <[Lemmy]> is there a good place to read about packaging for debian based linux anywhere?
[14:48] <bazhang> wbc, ask the channel, all on one line
[14:48] <ackbahr> Hi!
[14:48] <AceKing> bazhang: Should I just backup my stuff and do a re-install?
[14:48] <[Lemmy]> like "making .deb packages for rpm folks" or such
[14:48] <bazhang> AceKing, that is too drastic
[14:49] <Pici> [Lemmy]: Take a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
[14:49] <Roland> mobi-sheep, ok thnx located the correct folder... it wasn't marked as jdk/sdk or anything
[14:49] <[Lemmy]> *click*
[14:50] <mobi-sheep> Roland: Was it under /usr/lib/jvm/java-- * ?
[14:50] <bazhang> AceKing, try commenting everything out (or deleting) the stuff in sources.list.d and .backup saving and running update again. if that does not work, then try removing the #added -etc from the sources.list and updating
[14:50] <ackbahr> I just reinstalled ubuntu (decided to change partitions layout) and I have a list of the packages installed before and after. How can I get a CLEAN (uncommented) difference between the two files, so I see clearly what I had added, edit this and give it back to dpkg for installation? Thanks!
[14:50] <Roland> mobi-sheep, the folder was called... /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun
[14:51] <bazhang> AceKing, ie just the words #added by etc (not the whole line)
[14:51] <mobi-sheep> Roland: Ahh. Good. :o
[14:51] <AceKing> bazhang: Ok, I will try that
[14:51] <wbc> I want to setup a wireless device in ad-hoc mode, but want other devices to see the wireless point an infrastructure device, and at the same time, bridge between the wired and wireless device
[14:51] <Pici> ackbahr: diff file1 file2
[14:52] <bazhang> AceKing, if none of that works then a plain vanilla sources.list (minus the PPA) and we'll try again; something this minor should never require a re-install
[14:52] <bazhang> wbc, share the internet connection? load balance? something other?
[14:53] <AceKing> bazhang: Ok, I appreciate your helping me
[14:53] <landon_> Hey all, I have a quick question. After I connected an external monitor to my MSI Wind for the first time, when I go back to normal, my display is still messed up. As in I know it's powerful, but I can't load any special effects, compiz manager doesn't change anything, and I can't add or remove desktops. Anyone know why that might be?
[14:53] <CAZ_au> how long does it take for a cd to get to Australia?
[14:53] <Sl4ck> Hello WOrld
[14:53] <ackbahr> :Pici: This is what I meant by CLEAN : with diff I get a list with lots of comments, plus I'd like to see only the additions in the previous install, not what is there now and wasn't before I reinstalled everything....
[14:53] <bazhang> CAZ_au, differs for different folks
[14:54] <ackbahr> Sl4ck: Hello lonely one
[14:54] <bazhang> best to contact #ubuntu-au
[14:54]  * icebaer back
[14:54] <wbc> yes bazhang, that is what I want to do, but I do not want the wireless to show as ad-hoc to other devices, but as a normal infrastructural device, f.ex. the same way a router shows up to other wireless devices
[14:54] <CAZ_au> ok, ive already tried kubuntu-au :P
[14:55] <Sl4ck> exit
[14:55] <sivel_> Does jaunty have some sort of firewall enabled by default?
[14:55] <Sl4ck> GoodBye to all
[14:55] <ackbahr>     Pici    :    This is what I meant by CLEAN : with diff I get a list with lots of comments, plus I'd like to see only the additions in the previous install, not what is there now and wasn't before I reinstalled everything....
[14:55] <icebaer> okay, for the record: I mananged to get the fglrx-driver working again by uninstalling all xserver-xorg-video-*, installing fglrx again and running 'aticonfig --initial -f --adapter=all --tls=1'.
[14:55] <icebaer> The configfile's a mess, but at least everythings working again now.
[14:56] <landon_> Hey all, I have a quick question. After I connected an external monitor to my MSI Wind for the first time, when I go back to normal, my display is still messed up. As in I know it's powerful, but I can't load any special effects, compiz manager doesn't change anything, and I can't add or remove desktops. Anyone know why that might be?
[14:56] <icebaer> more information on http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu
[14:56] <Pici> ackbahr: Do none of the diff arguments do what you want to do?
[14:56] <landon_> I feel like Ubuntu broke down my settings to accomodate the external screen and doesn't know how to switch back
[14:57] <Pici> ackbahr: Also, if you specify extra packages to apt/dpkg that are already installed, its not going to complain
[14:57] <minimec> icebaer: I would at least install the opensource vesa ant ati driver again, because if you fglrx once fail to load, you cannot switch to anything else ;)
[14:57] <wbc> bazhang: Is what I am asking for even possible?
[14:57] <icebaer> Back to problem Nr.2: I activated the "remember my open programs"-option in the sessions-menu and now everytime I login, my configuration from back then is activated again. I can't get rid of this configuration. Any idea, where to delete it?
[14:57] <dts> Is there a panel alternative that actually looks good if you put all panels vertically? I want to save space on my widescreen but i can't find any good sollutions toget rid of the vertical bars without looking ugly
[14:58] <em056> why is that my pidgin is very hard to connect
[14:58] <icebaer> minimec: I'll try that next. ;)
[14:59] <em056> my pidgin dont connect
[14:59] <em056> what will i do
[14:59] <sivel> appologies if someone already answered this.  my router just flaked out.  Does jaunty have a firewall enabled by default?
[14:59] <wbc> sivel: iptables
[14:59] <wbc> !iptables
[15:00] <linduxed1> if ive got 240Gb of space and want to do a clean install on it. i intended going for two partitions, /home and /. The questions are:
[15:00] <linduxed1> Should i go for more partitions? how big does / need to be?
[15:00] <Billy> anyone ever tried wattos?
[15:00] <sivel> wbc: appreciated.  I don't remember previous version of ubuntu shiping with iptables on
[15:00] <ackbahr>   Pici  :  Haven't found anything satisfying in the diff options.... The idea of filtering the not-yet-installed packaged is to be able to read through them and forget some stuff that I fianlly don't need (I do try a lot of stuff here a there....)
[15:01] <skellington> hi i deleted my linux partition from inside winxp and now when i try to boot my computer i get grub error 22. my computer wont boot anything from usb, does anyboyd have any ideas whatsoever on what i should do? im dying here.
[15:01] <AceKing> bazhang: that didn't work. What do you mean by a plain vanilla sources list?
[15:01] <kLown> I'm having an issue trying to mount a WD netcenter harddrive on ubuntu jaunty.  I keep getting the error mount.nfs: access denied by server while trying to mount.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[15:01] <ackbahr> linduxed1: You can leave 20Go for / (nowadays, a full full full install of Ubuntu only uses up around 10Go).
[15:02] <linduxed1> ackbahr: oh
[15:02] <wbc> kLown: http://www.google.com/search?q=mount.nfs+access+denied+by+server+while+mounting&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[15:02] <ackbahr> linduxed1: What I just did was 25 Go for /, SWAP 4 Go and the rest split between /home and a FAT for easy sharing between users.
[15:02] <linduxed1> ackbahr: isnt then the 20Gb a bit excessive?
[15:02] <minimec> icebaer: what was that 2nd problem?
[15:02] <Xubuntnoob> http://pastebin.com/dad9efbd                  i made a script to run the steam client in wine,  and it's not doing what i want it to.  it executes the command 'pasuspender wine /home/admin/.wine/drive_c/steam.exe' just fine, but i'd like to redirect the error messages into a log file ie  '&> /home/admin/game.logs/steam.log', but the messages come up in terminal still, what'd i miss?
[15:03] <ackbahr> linduxed1: You don't know what's going to happen in the future, and anyway you can still us the space if you really need it....
[15:03] <kLown> wbc: I appreciate the help..but I wouldn't be sitting here reposting if it was that easy :)
[15:03] <grawity> Xubuntnoob: It's >&
[15:03] <grawity> Xubuntnoob: Not &>
[15:04] <linduxed1> ackbahr: well, 20 it is then
[15:04] <wbc> kLown: have you tried the solutions on the search I linked to?
[15:04] <grawity> Xubuntnoob: > and 1> redirect stdin. 2> redirects stderr. >& redirects both.
[15:04] <kLown> wbc: Yes, I have.
[15:04] <linduxed1> ackbahr: btw, if ive got 4 gigs of RAM, how much swap should i have?
[15:04] <icebaer> minimec: Some while ago I activated the "remember currently running applications"-option under preferences->startup programs->options. Since then, on logging in, it always starts openoffce (what I don't want). I'm unable to find the place where to delete these startup programs. Any hint?
[15:05] <jrib> Xubuntnoob: what's the link?
[15:05] <kLown> wbc: Most, if not all of those are directed at mapping pc/pc/, using /etc/exports
[15:05] <kLown> wbc:  and from reading, that will not help me.
[15:05] <minimec> icebaer: ok. Never did that. Let me see.
[15:06] <SmoKeyCastle> Hi
[15:06] <icebaer> minimec: could please check, which files change upon activating that option?
[15:06] <jrib> Xubuntnoob: use bash, not sh, it probably doesn't like your &>
[15:06] <shaiguitar> How do I change the name of a usb mount for good ? (eg, so each mount, it will come up with the right name ?)
[15:06] <Xubuntnoob> http://pastebin.com/dad9efbd
[15:06] <SmoKeyCastle> Is there a way to access and retrieve files from a windows backup using linux?
[15:07] <Xubuntnoob> grawity - it's backwards in scripts?
[15:07] <wbc> kLown: Sorry, I haven't played around with remote filesystems yet, but it seems weird that no one is able to answer your question though
[15:07] <wbc> Try the forums
[15:07] <shaiguitar> Meaning, I have a HD drive, it always comes up as "My Book" but I want it to be "mybook" ... how do I change that permanently ?
[15:07] <grawity> Xubuntnoob: No.
[15:07] <Xubuntnoob> if i do wine steam.exe &> steam.log it works
[15:08] <grawity> Xubuntnoob: &> actually is an invalid redirection, so the shell takes it as separate & and >
[15:08] <minimec> icebaer: You have the option to activate this in that settings-manager. Why don't you try to close down all these applications after login (leaving the optioin activated) After next login, the Desktop should be clean. Then you try to inactivate that option. Maybe you tried that...
[15:08] <bazhang> AceKing, you are using gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list et al to edit these? and then saving them and updating first? the vanilla one would be to remove any references to #added by software properties,a nd commenting out the PPA
[15:08] <EXCLUSIVE> ïèäàðàñû
[15:08] <EXCLUSIVE> hi Hitler
[15:08] <EXCLUSIVE> ))
[15:08] <bazhang> EXCLUSIVE, stop that
[15:09] <EXCLUSIVE> bazhang >> blb yf [eq
[15:09] <EXCLUSIVE> bazhang >> blb yf [eq
[15:09] <icebaer> minimec: yeah, already tried that
[15:09] <icebaer> bazhang: thanks
[15:09] <Cryptorchild> minimec, after changing resolution the X crashing and now im using low resolution, when i want to change into higher res there is no more higher option in the Display manager?
[15:10] <Xubuntnoob> so in a terminal  should it be posted as  ' >& .log ' ?
[15:10] <shaiguitar>  How do I change the name of a usb mount for good ? (eg, so each mount, it will come up with the right name ? ). Meaning, I have a Western Digital HD drive, it always comes up as "My Book" but I want it to be "mybook" ... how do I change that permanently ?
[15:11] <AceKing> bazhang: I found the lines with that referenced fiesty and removed them.. They were way down at the bottom! about 75 lines of blank space between them
[15:11] <minimec> Cryptorchild: Low resolution mode is a basic 'vesa' mode. Try to reboot that machine, or switch to a console and do 'sudo killall gdm', then 'sudo gdm && exit'
[15:11] <bazhang> AceKing, nice eye
[15:12] <AceKing> bazhang: I updated and got this message. http://paste.ubuntu.com/216958/
[15:13] <Xubuntnoob> grawity what does the & part of that standfor?  assuming (because i'm a noob) that > = redirect
[15:13] <bazhang> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%27s%20keys%20to%20your%20system AceKing (if you want to keep the ppa)
[15:13] <frostburn> Xubuntnoob, background the process, so you'll get your shell back
[15:13] <icebaer> minimec: any luck yet?
[15:13] <bazhang> AceKing, otherwise just # comment it out and update
[15:13] <blackpearl1> Installed Ubuntu 9.04 on Vbox. Created Primary Slave (dynamically extended) in Vbox for Ubuntu...Permanently mounted the pri.slave HDD my making entry in /etc/fstab...NOW how can i give Permanent access to Read/Write..? i have to run sudo nautilus from  terminal everytime for this..
[15:14] <icebaer> minimec: I'll logout to check something, brb
[15:14] <frostburn> Xubuntnoob, check out $man bash
[15:14] <AceKing> bazhang: Ok
[15:14] <minimec> icebaer: o.
[15:14] <grawity> Xubuntnoob: Hmm, maybe it doesn't ... &> seems to be correct
[15:14] <Cryptorchild> minimec, any line to add to xorg.conf?
[15:14] <icebaer> !quietirssi
[15:14] <Cryptorchild> to use xserver-xorg-video-ati
[15:15] <Xubuntnoob> maybe because it's a script, i dont' need the & , because it's already in the background?
[15:15] <frostburn> blackpearl1, there's a few ways, you can add yourself to sudoers, change the group permissions or change the file permissions
[15:15] <Cryptorchild> minimec, how to knowing the current wrapper im using?
[15:15] <minimec> Cryptorchild: wait... pastebin me your /etc/xorg.conf first and tell me what kind of card you are using.
[15:15] <frostburn> Xubuntnoob, what's the issue?
[15:15] <linduxed1> how much swap do i need if ive got 4 gigs of ram?
[15:15] <minimec> Cryptorchild: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:16] <blackpearl1> frostburn: i have no idea how to do it...thats why i am here
[15:16] <frostburn> linduxed1, if you want to hibernate, 8gb
[15:16] <icebaer> minimec: for some reason, it worked this time. Perhaps the service that updated the sessions crashed the last time or something.. thx for the help anyways! :)
[15:16] <Xubuntnoob> frostburn, when i run a script http://pastebin.com/dad9efbd , my output doesn't go into a log, it stays in terminal
[15:16] <bazhang> linduxed1, you want to hiibernate?
[15:16] <grawity> Xubuntnoob: nope, &> seems to be exactly the same as >&
[15:16] <grawity> Xubuntnoob: sorryu.
[15:16] <minimec> icebaer: So are we lucky... ? ;)
[15:16] <Xubuntnoob> grawity: thanks
[15:17] <bazhang> ToXBoT_, hi
[15:17] <icebaer> minimec: back on track! =)
[15:17] <frostburn> Xubuntnoob, redirect to your log, then background it      command > to_file &
[15:17] <whileimhere> Hi I just bought a new wireless PCI card. I was wondering if I install it will I have to re-install the system or will it be able to find it on its own?
[15:18] <frostburn> blackpearl1, what's the original issue, usually you shouldn't need to mess with /etc/fstab  if you want any other users to modify the file, you'll want to do a chmod 646 /etc/fstab          but this isn't recommended
[15:18] <bazhang> !give me a test
[15:18] <blackpearl1> Installed Ubuntu 9.04 on Vbox. Created Primary Slave (dynamically extended) in Vbox for Ubuntu...Permanently mounted the pri.slave HDD my making entry in /etc/fstab...NOW how can i give Permanent access to Read/Write..? i have to run sudo nautilus from  terminal everytime for this..
[15:18] <bazhang> whileimhere, what chipset
[15:18] <janisozaur> what should i use to visualise diff?
[15:19] <linduxed1> frostburn: bazhang: nope i wont hiber
[15:19] <whileimhere> I am not sure its a card from walmart
[15:19] <whileimhere> I have not bought it yet
[15:19] <Cryptorchild> minimec, http://pastebin.org/1344, Im using ATI Xpress 200M
[15:19] <whileimhere> worried I would be wasting time
[15:19] <sarahmac> join ##alientrap
[15:19] <bazhang> whileimhere, check the outside of th package?
[15:19] <fwaokda_> anyone know if it is possible to get the mouse scrolling function you see in windows -- Where when you press the middle mouse button on a website you can then scroll up and down by moving the mouse up and down?
[15:19] <bazhang> sarahmac, /join #channel
[15:20] <whileimhere> bazhang right if its compatible will it just pnp?
[15:20] <linduxed1> fwaokda_: in firefox you go into preferences and turn on auto-scroll
[15:20] <fwaokda_> linduxed1, thanks
[15:20] <OttifantSir> icebaer: Sorry I didn't follow up. I got a call from the neighbour asking which laptop to keep and which to sell. I've had the same problem with no title-bar on windows myself. I remember I had to do something in System -> Preferences -> Appearance, but don't remember now what. It was 1.5 years ago, and haven't had the problem since. You still searching for the answer?
[15:20] <minimec> Cryptorchild: You never tried to install the fglrx ati driver, did you?
[15:20] <frostburn> blackpearl1, oh i see, you need to be able to write to the drive as your user, you'll need to change the file permissions of the mounted drive, right now it's most likely root:root          I don't know where it's mounted but if you want to be able to write to it without using sudo, do a chown -R yourusername:yourusername /mount/yourdiskhere
[15:20] <Xubuntnoob> frostburn, http://pastebin.com/d146002f9 gets me the same results?
[15:21] <icebaer> OttifantSir: No problem, I fixed it now by getting the fglrx-driver to work. Thanks for the help anyways! :)
[15:21] <bazhang> whileimhere, well finding out the chipset before buying is a must
[15:21] <frostburn> Xubuntnoob, what's the output you're seeing? are you sure that it's stdout and not stderr?
[15:21] <callum_> hey all ubuntu'ers
[15:21] <frostburn> Xubuntnoob, check out this guide here: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html
[15:21] <whileimhere> bazhang oh well they will take it back if it does not work they said
[15:21] <Cryptorchild> minimec, i did and you told me yesterday to install the wrapper from website you've pointed me
[15:21] <icebaer> OttifantSir: the fglrx is better for the laptop anyways, because it supports the energy-saving features, which the FOSS radeon driver doesn't.
[15:21] <OttifantSir> icebaer: Glad it worked out for you.
[15:21] <bazhang> whileimhere, is this an internal? a pcmcia? a usb?
[15:22] <linduxed1> if i have no intention to hibernate and have 4 gigs of ram, is swap necessary?
[15:22] <bazhang> linduxed1, a bit sure
[15:22] <whileimhere> bazhang its a internal pci card not usb
[15:22] <Cryptorchild> minimec, it's working great but after i change resolution i have X crashing and have to restart the system
[15:22] <minimec> Cryptorchild: We talked yestarday, but I guess it was about other thigs.
[15:22] <poing> who can recommend a webcam that works well with ubuntu?
[15:22] <Xubuntnoob> frostburn, http://pastebin.com/d46ede235 is the output i get in terminal with the script
[15:22] <bazhang> poing, check the list
[15:22] <Kurosaki_Ichigo> eu sou baby precisa me amar
[15:22] <bazhang> !webcam > poing
[15:22] <blackpearl1> How to Give PERMANENT Read/Write permission to my Primary Slave HDD in Ubuntu????
[15:22] <poing> thanks
[15:22] <linduxed1> bazhang: 1 GB?
[15:22] <Xubuntnoob> frostburn, to be clear ** the program actually runs just fine
[15:23] <Xubuntnoob> i just don't want to see the output
[15:23] <frostburn> Xubuntnoob, that looks like stderr, if you want to redirect that as well, use the guide i pasted and redirect stderr
[15:23] <Cryptorchild> minimec, oh..well i'm sure it is
[15:23] <frostburn> blackpearl1, i provided you the answer above, you need to use chown
[15:23] <minimec> Cryptorchild: I see in the xorg.conf that you use standard default settings set by ubuntu. The xserver is handling everything. Now...
[15:23] <AceKing> bazhang: I added the key from that link but it didn't work
[15:23] <bazhang> linduxed1, should do, that or 2GB depending on how you are for space
[15:24] <Cryptorchild> minimec, ok now what to do to have ati wrapper working?
[15:24] <Xubuntnoob> frostburn, thanks i'll have a look
[15:24] <bazhang> AceKing, then try commenting it out, unless that is a crucial ppa for you
[15:24] <linduxed1> bazhang: well ive got 220GB to spare...
[15:24] <minimec> Cryptorchild: I remember now. We were talking about the ppa ubuntu repo of the opensource ati driver, right?
[15:24] <Cryptorchild> minimec, correct
[15:25] <minimec> Cryptorchild: OK. Which distro are you running? jaunty?
[15:25] <mazda01> i have a 80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10) audio card and the volume is SO LOW using Pulseaudio in Jaunty. Does anyone have any suggestions on getting the sound louder?
[15:25] <AceKing> bazhang: will do. Thank you for you help and being so patient!
[15:27] <reginaldo> what program to use for burn DVD of pictures and video for DVD player?
[15:27] <reginaldo> data disc for pictures?
[15:27] <bazhang> reginaldo, devede should do that
[15:28] <bazhang> Mystic, hi
[15:28] <wbc> What the heck?
[15:28] <shorterror> reginaldo, or K3B
[15:28] <Eledran> what happend here?
[15:28] <reginaldo> bazhang, I used devede and I burned only the video,
[15:28] <Eledran> netsplit?
[15:28] <bazhang> yep
[15:28] <wbc> What is netsplit?
[15:28] <reginaldo> bazhang, i want to burn the video and pictures together. do you know?
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> !netsplit | wbc
[15:29] <Eledran> wtf? I was on hubbard and I did not get affected by the netsplit :S
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> reginaldo:  you can use devede to generate a iso image, or dvd iso 'files' then burn them all to dvd.. and then also burn whatever image/data files you also want to the same dvd.
[15:29] <wbc> "just relax and enjoy the show", lol
[15:29] <StrangeCharm__> i've been informed that i need a zlib before i can make something. what package should i be looking at?
[15:29] <minimec> I wasn't aware of that, as I ignore joins and parts. I lost my chatpartner ;)
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> !info zlib
[15:29] <bazhang> reginaldo, perhaps join the pictures together into a video, or just listen to Dr_Willis :)
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> StrangeCharm__:  try apt-cache search zlib
[15:30] <Cryptorchild1> minimec, sorry disconnect from server???
[15:30] <mazda01> reginaldo, i chekced out kdenlive the other day and it seems very promising. it can do a whole mess of things. check it out. it's mainly like a windows movie maker program for working with captured video from a video camera but can work with everything I am pretty sure.
[15:30] <Cryptorchild1> is it netsplit?
[15:30] <Eledran> btw, how do you guys do to hide your real IP adress?
[15:30] <minimec> Cryptorchild1: Yeah. You were victim of a netsplit, it seems.
[15:30] <bazhang> !cloak > Eledran
[15:30] <mazda01> reginaldo, otherwise I use tovid_gui or devede.
[15:30] <jbk`> Eledran: look at freenode sites
[15:30] <ackbahr> linduxed1: Sorry : you should have as much swap as RAM, but I found that for some things in Blender, for example, more could be nice....
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> I made a dvd 'slideshow' movie.. for the faimly and also put the images in jpg format on a dir - on the dvd.
[15:30] <minimec> Cryptorchild1: Are you using jaunty?
[15:30] <StrangeCharm__> Dr_Willis-  sadly, that returns a fair few results
[15:30] <bazhang> Eledran, inquire in #freenode
[15:30] <Xubuntnoob> frostburn, thanks. this works fantastic.  i'm trying to troubleshoot another problem i have with similar issues, can i create filters to separate the different error messages?
[15:31] <reginaldo> ok i will try . thanks
[15:31] <whileimhere> how can I tell what processor I have in my machine?
[15:31] <Cryptorchild> minimec, yes im using Jaunty
[15:31] <Eledran> uouch, forgot to read the freenode manual :(
[15:31] <Eledran> :D
[15:31] <Xubuntnoob> * by similar issues, i mean similar output
[15:31] <mickster04> anyone not being seen to?
[15:31] <mazda01> reginaldo, i chekced out kdenlive the other day and it seems very promising. it can do a whole mess of things. check it out. it's mainly like a windows movie maker program for working with captured video from a video camera but can work with everything I am pretty sure.
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> StrangeCharm__:  thats when you read the decriptions and fiture out what you need..     'somthing needs zlib'  is a little vague :0
[15:31] <mazda01> i have a 80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10) audio card and the volume is SO LOW using Pulseaudio in Jaunty. Does anyone have any suggestions on getting the sound louder?
[15:31] <minimec> Cryptorchild: Let's check you got the right driver. https://launchpad.net/~tormodvolden/+archive/ppa
[15:31] <frostburn> Xubuntnoob, sure, you can use grep,   some command |grep -i "text your're searching for
[15:31] <frostburn> "
[15:31] <StrangeCharm__> Dr_Willis-  apparently
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> zlibc - An on-fly auto-uncompressing C library
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> zlibc - An on-fly auto-uncompressing C library
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> looks like a winner
[15:32] <FloodBot1> Dr_Willis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:32] <minimec> Cryptorchild: There are two solutions.
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> http://drop.io/dr_willis/media/moviezlib1g - compression library - runtime
[15:32] <reginaldo> mazda01 , ok I will install it
[15:32] <Cryptorchild> minimec, I've download and install the driver xserver-xorg-video-ati_6.12.99+git20090629.bb04b450-0ubuntu0tormod_i386.deb
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> or... zlib1g - compression library - runtime
[15:32] <Cryptorchild> minimec, i just don't know how to reconfigure the X to use this driver
[15:32] <minimec> Cryptorchild: THat's what I would say ;)
[15:32] <Xubuntnoob> frostburn, sorry, what's -i?
[15:33] <frostburn> Xubuntnoob, ignore case
[15:33] <minimec> Cryptorchild: You don't have to, as the Xserver handles everything.
[15:33] <disco_stu> ping lfaraone
[15:33] <jbk`> nvidia drivers problem: Guys, I think that my gfx card might be cursed or something. I've downloaded the newest nvidia drivers and after restarting the X server, the only thing that happens is black screen. I am not even able to ctrl-alt-f1-6 or anything. All I see is just black screen and I have to reboot.
[15:33] <Cryptorchild> minimec, how to do that?
[15:33] <jbk`> And damn, I would love to use nvidia drivers
[15:34] <minimec> Cryptorchild: So you downloaded that package?
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> jbk`: so the drivers in the repos did or did NOT work?
[15:34] <Cryptorchild> minimec, yep
[15:34] <jbk`> Dr_Willis: did not
[15:34] <minimec> Cryptorchild: ok. open a terminal
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> jbk`:  and your card is a ?
[15:34] <jbk`> after installing them I've got a black screen
[15:34] <jbk`> nvidia geforce 6600
[15:34] <Cryptorchild> minimec, proceed..
[15:34] <minimec> Cryptorchild: /cd Desktop
[15:34] <StakOver> hi all
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> seems that people always have issues with 6600 and 8600 (or was it 6800) cards....
[15:34] <minimec> sudo dpkg -i xserv<tab>
[15:34] <lostson> 6600 that card should work fine with the drivers in the repo's
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> lostson:  thats what i was thinking also
[15:35] <StakOver> I configure apt-get as like this tutorial: http://hamacker.wordpress.com/2006/12/13/configure-seu-ubuntu-para-usar-proxy-quando-estiver-usando-terminal-apt-get-e-wget/
[15:35] <jbk`> lostson: well, my 6600 seems to be cursed or something
[15:35] <jbk`> :/
[15:35] <lostson> yeah its the 8600's and up that are a problem
[15:35] <StakOver> but now it won't work
[15:35] <Cryptorchild> minimec, can't get any completion..
[15:35] <Xubuntnoob> what are the paste rules for this channel? if it's 1 line of code can i paste it?
[15:35] <Cryptorchild> minimec, any clue?
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> my 8800gtsxxx works good :)
[15:35] <bazhang> Xubuntnoob, one is fine
[15:36] <jbk`> well, did anyone solve this problem ?
[15:36] <Xubuntnoob> thanks :D
[15:36] <minimec> Cryptorchild: Maybe you stored it in your /home directory... ;) type cd ..
[15:36] <jbk`> I tried googling, but didn't find anything out
[15:36] <StakOver> synaptic it works... but apt-get don't...
[15:36] <minimec> Cryptorchild: sudo dpkg -i xserv<tab>
[15:36] <Cryptorchild> it's on home dir yes ;)
[15:36] <Xubuntnoob> frostburn, would this work?  wine eve.exe | grep -i "fixme" > /home/logs/eve.log   if i want to ignore the fixme errors and have everything else goto the log?
[15:37] <wng--> I'm having trouble installing ubuntu 9.04 on a RAID1 setup, it doesn't seem to install grub on my disks, after a reboot I get a blinking cursor for a while and then a no bootable devices found, no grub error or anything
[15:37] <Cryptorchild> minimec, ok proceed...
[15:37] <frostburn> Xubuntnoob, if you want to ignore "fix me"  use grep -v "fixme"
[15:37] <minimec> Cryptorchild: Logout/login. That was it ;)
[15:37] <Cryptorchild> eeee, that simple
[15:38] <minimec> Cryptorchild: We will see now, how good that goeas ?
[15:38] <Cryptorchild> minimec, ok logout now...
[15:39] <whileimhere> Bazhang: I found this about that wireless card     Linksys - 802.11g Wireless Desktop Card  Model: WMP54G | SKU: 5333445
[15:40] <whileimhere> I would love to find a cheaper wireless PCI card but this is about $45.00 USD and that is the best so far I can find
[15:40] <wWales> how can i change my updatemanager to look for development releases instead of stable releases (in particular the wine package)
[15:40] <bazhang> wWales, add the wine repos
[15:41] <bazhang> wWales, help in #winehq
[15:41] <Cryptorchild> minimec, ok still got the 1024x768 res and still slow in windows
[15:41] <UnderSampled> Hi
[15:41] <wWales> bazhang: thanks and sorry for wrong channel
[15:41] <juiCeppe> what's the name of the german ubuntu channel?
[15:41] <bazhang> juiCeppe, #ubuntu-de
[15:41] <whileimhere> Any have a suggestion for a wireless PCI card that is Ubuntu safe and under $45.00USD?
[15:41] <juiCeppe> thx bazhang
[15:41] <UnderSampled> I'm trying to install via the network following the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot
[15:42] <^rumput_kering^> assalamualaikum
[15:42] <juiCeppe> whileimhere ... linksys has good ones
[15:42] <bazhang> whileimhere, I can't recall the chipset of that card; a quick check on ubuntuforums should tell you chipset (ie not model name) such as ralink, atheros etc
[15:42] <minimec> Cryptorchild: So Karmik Koala will probably be your friend, as there are lot of changes going on... Are you using HDMI? Try VGA if you can once
[15:42] <skellington> hi i deleted my linux partition from inside winxp and now when i try to boot my computer i get grub error 22. my computer wont boot anything from usb, does anyboyd have any ideas whatsoever on what i should do? im dying here. seriously, anything.
[15:43] <juiCeppe> whileimhere ... rt73 chipset should work fine with ubuntu
[15:43] <UnderSampled> at the step where I am to paste the folder called "pxelinux.cfg", I am not able to because there is already an (empty) file (not folder) with that name
[15:43] <Cryptorchild> im on laptop
[15:43] <juiCeppe> i bought one right yesterday
[15:43] <minimec> Cryptorchild: OK. I see. Do you get 3D acceleration and are you using compiz?
[15:43] <th0r> skellington: boot the xp install disk, choose recovery mode, and at the prompt type 'fixmbr'
[15:44] <Cryptorchild> minimec, nope
[15:44] <wng--> I'm having trouble installing ubuntu 9.04 on a RAID1 setup, it doesn't seem to install grub on my disks, after a reboot I get a blinking cursor for a while and then a no bootable devices found, no grub error or anything
[15:44] <jbk`> so -> Is there anyone who solved the black screen problem or is it unsolve-able ?
[15:44] <UnderSampled> Can I just delete the empty file? If thats so, why is it even there?
[15:44] <minimec> Cryptorchild: And before you installed the ppa version the last days after your talk. How performance?
[15:45] <bazhang> jbk`, with ati fglrx?
[15:45] <Cryptorchild> similar to this one
[15:46] <twig11> What's the best way to back up the user data on an Ubuntu 9.04 system I'm going to reinstall from the desktop CD? I have a wireless problem which I'm spent hours on this board trying to solve and I'm going to reinstall Ubuntu since I did have wireless working at one time on this system. Do I just back up the users' home folders to another drive?
[15:46] <Cryptorchild> minimec, do i have to remove the driver and then install it again?
[15:46] <th0r> twig11: yup....just back up the home directory
[15:46] <jbk`> bazhang: with nvidia gforce 6600
[15:46] <frostburn> twig11, i've done several migrations that way, back up /home and copy it back after the new install
[15:46] <minimec> Cryptorchild: I am somehow a victim too of amd/ati support policy, but I can tell you, that karmic koala will probably help both of us.
[15:46] <uqs> do I need libdvdcss2 to play DVD's in Ubuntu (in for example VLC)?
[15:47] <minimec> Cryptorchild: No need. If the driver works, check for updates from time to time ;)
[15:47] <bazhang> uqs, should do yes, go to medibuntu.org and follow the instructions there
[15:47] <bazhang> jbk`, not sure, how did you install the drivers
[15:47] <Cryptorchild> minimec, but current performance is too low, even i cannot play movies with normal fps
[15:48] <th0r> twig11: if you had put /home in a separate partition you wouldn't even have to do that. Since you are doing a new install consider doing that as well
[15:48] <Cryptorchild> and the resolution is only maxed at 1024x768
[15:48] <jbk`> bazhang: using ubuntu's "hardware update" or something like that
[15:48] <twig11> frostburn: th0r: I'm not completely comfortable with the way permissions work; are permissions going to need lots of fiddling with when I reimport the data?
[15:48] <jbk`> it offered me a few versions of drivers, so I downloaded the 180 one
[15:48] <Cryptorchild> minimec, is there a way to override the X to use the driver?
[15:48] <klown> I'm getting a mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting <IP_ADDRESS>:/shares/Main/ trying to mount a NAS, anyone have any ideas how ti fix this issue?
[15:49] <bazhang> jbk`, which one was recommended for that card
[15:49] <skellington> th0r: can i put the recovery disk on a usb drive>
[15:49] <jbk`> 180
[15:49] <th0r> twig11: if you are going to back it up to an ntfs or fat drive probably. If you back it up to an ext3 or ext4 drive then the permissions shoujld be ok
[15:49] <th0r> skellington: not that I am aware of...xp requires the cd
[15:49] <bazhang> jbk`, and you have run nvidia-settings after a reboot?
[15:49] <minimec> Cryptorchild: You have to search the net then for your specific card. I don't knos your card. I have a x1250, which starts to be better (even good on media play). www.phoronix.com is a good start.
[15:49] <jbk`> yes
[15:49] <frostburn> twig11, they may, you may want to copy out your /etc/passwd  and take note of the user ids so they'll line up in the new install
[15:49] <jbk`> after running nvidia-settings, it overwrites the xorg.conf
[15:50] <twig11> th0r: I actually backed up the two users' home folders individually. And I think it's probably a fat drive.
[15:50] <jbk`> and after the overwriting of xorg.conf, I restart the X server, but when I start it again, all I see is a black screen
[15:50] <jbk`> and I can't go to any terminal anymore
[15:50] <frostburn> jbk`, when that happens, i usually ssh in and restart the service
[15:50] <moncky> twig11: I have had to do  a chown -R before even thought the username ect were the same, but that in iteself is not a big hassle
[15:50] <AJC_Z0> Standard 9.04 install, recently booted was playing sounds just fine for an hour or so and after a couple of volume changes (master via panel app) has now stopped. All volume settings are on full, but still no sound, Suggestions for (re)starting it?
[15:51] <jbk`> frostburn: well, I am able to restart the service, but I have to use the old xorg.conf
[15:51] <twig11> frostburn: you're saying copy all the contents of /etc/passwd and replace the user ids in it after the system's reinstalled?
[15:51] <jbk`> with disabled driver "nvidia"
[15:51] <jbk`> and enabled driver "nv"
[15:51] <frostburn> AJC_Z0, try a sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[15:51] <aaronvarghese> im gona kill yafray
[15:51] <aaronvarghese> whos with me
[15:51] <Cryptorchild> minimec, ok thanks for the help
[15:51] <Oceanic> AJC_Z0 try typing alsamixer into terminal and see if there is anything on mute
[15:51] <moncky> AJC_Z0: have you tried reloading ALSA
[15:52] <frostburn> jbk`, how old is the video card?  Older cards arent supported by the newer nvidia binaries
[15:52] <jbk`> frostburn: it's nvidia geforce 6600
[15:52] <aaronvarghese> ok then
[15:52] <aaronvarghese> lets !killll!|||
[15:52] <UnderSampled> Hello?
[15:52] <jbk`> it's not that old and it's even written in the description that 6600 is supported
[15:52] <Ti-dev> Hi, I'm trying to build mesa in Jaunty to rectify a prob, but when I try "make linux-dri-x86" it returns "make: Nothing to be done for `linux-dri-x86' ". Any help?
[15:52] <frostburn> twig11, yes, if worse comes to worse, you can recursively set the owner/group by doing a chown -R username:username /home/username
[15:52] <aaronvarghese> join/#yafray
[15:53] <aaronvarghese> join/#yafaray
[15:53] <frostburn> jbk`, the default restricted driver didn't work?
[15:53] <jbk`> exactly
[15:53] <klown> I'm getting a mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting <IP_ADDRESS>:/shares/Main/ trying to mount a NAS, anyone have any ideas how ti fix this issue?
[15:53] <minimec> Cryptorchild: No Problem. Remember. You are using the 'bleeding edge' developper snapshot of the opensource ati driver now. No need to step bakc. Maybe you can configure it a little better.
[15:54] <frostburn> jbk`, hmm, that's pretty odd, i'd check out the ubuntu forums to see if anyone else is having the same issues that you are with that videocard/chipset
[15:54] <bazhang> aaronvarghese, stop that
[15:54] <Cryptorchild> minimec, sure, i'll keep searching for further dev
[15:55] <Ti-dev> anyone?
[15:55] <twig11> frostburn: I'm pretty new to this. Do you mind giving me the command for printing the contents of /etc/psswd to a file if that's what I should do?
[15:55] <UnderSampled> Can anyone help me?
[15:55] <AJC_Z0> frostburn: No effect with "sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart" while playing the sound test in System > Sound
[15:55] <frostburn> Ti-dev, is there a config file?  ./configure
[15:55] <moncky> twig11: less /etc/passwd
[15:55] <uqs> bazhang, thank you for the tip about medibuntu :]
[15:55] <th0r> twig11: that won't do any good...the passwords are hashed
[15:55] <AJC_Z0> Oceanic: Nothing muted or down in alsamixer
[15:56] <AJC_Z0> moncky: How do I reload ALSA?
[15:56] <sonism> !ask |UnderSampled
[15:56] <moncky> twig11: that will just print to screen
[15:56] <UnderSampled> sonism: I did
[15:56] <twig11> th0r: frostburn said I needed the user ids. They aren't hashed are they?
[15:56] <Ti-dev> frostburn, I'm following a howto and in that I did use "./configure" I'm like half way through and it says to make "linux-dri-x86" after configuring it. I did so but i get that error :(
[15:56] <frostburn> twig11, cat /etc/passwd     you'll want to check out the man page as well for this man passwd
[15:57] <th0r> twig11: true....those are clear
[15:57] <grawity> frostburn: you probably mean man 5 passwd
[15:57] <UnderSampled> I'm trying to install via the network following the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot at the step where I am to paste the folder called "pxelinux.cfg", I am not able to because there is already an (empty) file (not folder) with that name. Can I just delete the empty file? If thats so, why is it even there?
[15:57] <frostburn> th0r, twig11, they are hashed
[15:57] <grawity> Only passwords are hashed.
[15:57] <piken> hey all
[15:57] <frostburn> grawity, yes, twig11 man 5 passwd
[15:58] <grawity> (And hidden in /etc/shadow.)
[15:58] <moncky> twig11: no they are not, its username:x:UID:GID::path
[15:58] <klown> I'm getting a mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting <IP_ADDRESS>:/shares/Main/ trying to mount a NAS, anyone have any ideas how ti fix this issue? (i hate to keep asking, but im out of ideas)
[15:58] <th0r> frostburn: the userid isn't hashed it is clear text, but the group id isn't in there.
[15:58] <bullgard4> What keyboard command will change the value of 'Card:' in the ncurses display of alsamixer?
[15:58] <piken> I am runing Juanty, but need for a software package an older version of libssl. Juanty has 0.9.8, but for the app I need 0.9.7. Is there a way to install 0.9.7 with out killing the 0.9.8 install?
[15:58] <grawity> th0r: it _always_ is there.
[15:59] <grawity> th0r: can you paste one line from /etc/passwd?
[15:59] <th0r> steve:x:1000:1000:Steve Nye,,,,:/home/steve:/bin/bash
[15:59] <frostburn> Ti-dev, which howto are you following? can you paste the error message that you're seeing?
[15:59] <Construct> anyone know about a error installing war3 on ubuntu 9.04 error "0x00000015: Not ready" (it cant read cd after starting install proccess)
[15:59] <grawity> th0r: so username is "steve", password is in another file, UID is 1000, GID is 1000, real name is "Steve Nye", homedir is /home/steve.
[16:00] <sonism> ^rumput_kering^ : wa 'alaikumsalam warrahmatullahiwabarakatuh
[16:00] <grawity> th0r: Both UID and GID are 1000.
[16:00] <echosystm> anyone able to help me install ubuntu from USB?
[16:00] <twig11> frostburn: so the line I need looks like "anthony:x:1000:1000:Anthony,,,:/home/anthony:/bin/bash?
[16:00] <echosystm> need alt cd
[16:00] <bazhang> sonism, ^rumput_kering^ english here
[16:00] <uqs> bazhang: it didn't. eventhough I have VLC and libdvdcss2 the image is scrambled and the movie won't play correctly
[16:00] <echosystm> but the wiki only provides directions for the normal cd ;(
[16:00] <grawity> twig11: what do you need, anyway?
[16:00]  * grawity scrolls up.
[16:01] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats uqs please read this
[16:01] <Ahmad> amsn he dont have plus like live messenger pilus ?
[16:01] <Ahmad> plus*?
[16:01] <sonism> bazhang: sorry man just answaring this guys hello :)
[16:01] <th0r> grawity: yeah, forgot there is a <username> group
[16:01] <grawity> Ahmad: no.
[16:01] <Ahmad> ok 10x
[16:01] <UbuntuUser> hi
[16:01] <twig11> grawity: I'm backing up my home folder to a fat drive and frostburn says I might want the userids in order to get permissions working when I import from the backup.
[16:01] <Ti-dev> frostburn: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building | Error = "make: Nothing to be done for `linux-dri-x86' "
[16:02] <UbuntuUser> anyone know how to add gnome-panel. after update it was dissapeared
[16:02] <mcphail> twig11: why are you backing up to fat????
[16:02] <grawity> twig11: when you copy something to a FAT drive, it loses all permissions and owner and group.
[16:02] <grawity> twig11: unless you use 'tar' or something like that, of course.
[16:02] <twig11> mcphail: newbies don't know any better.
[16:02] <Paddy_NI> UbuntuUser: do you currently have a panel?
[16:02] <uqs> bazhang, I alreadu have the ubuntu-restricted-extras package installed
[16:02] <mcphail> twig11: honestly, do use something else to save a wrold of pain
[16:02] <UbuntuUser> no i have not.
[16:03] <Paddy_NI> UbuntuUser: can you open a terminal window?
[16:03] <klown> I'm getting a mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting <IP_ADDRESS>:/shares/Main/ trying to mount a NAS, anyone have any ideas how ti fix this issue?
[16:03] <Ti-dev> frostburn, in the mesa dir, I executed a file called "autogen.sh" and it seems to have compiled
[16:03] <shiznebit> in ktorrent RSS how do I exclude a "String Matching"
[16:03] <minimec> UbuntuUser: Check if you can start it with <alt>F2 gnome-panel
[16:03] <bazhang> uqs, and libdvdread3 is installed?
[16:03] <grawity> twig11: anyway, when you restore the files, you can just do "ls -l" on a user's directory, note the UID shown, then just add a new user with the same UID.
[16:03] <Paddy_NI> minimec: I dont think alt+f2 works unless there is a panel to begin with
[16:03] <UbuntuUser> yes i can
[16:04] <Paddy_NI> ah then type gnome-panel
[16:04] <frostburn> Ti-dev, ah ok... are you in the correct directory for compiling?
[16:04] <bazhang> Paddy_NI, sure it does
[16:04] <grawity> Paddy_NI: Compiz has Alt+F2 too.
[16:04] <minimec> UbuntuUser: If not... <alt>F2 gnome-terminal, then sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[16:04] <Paddy_NI> grawity: ah cool
[16:04] <bjorkintosh> why does ubuntu have seizures?
[16:04] <minimec> UbuntuUser: So you can do <alt>F2?
[16:04] <sonism> UbuntuUser: type gnome-panel
[16:04] <grawity> Paddy_NI: It's in CCSM's "Gnome Compatibility" section.
[16:04] <bazhang> bjorkintosh, elaborate
[16:04] <twig11> mcphail: I don't have much choice at the moment. The drive I'm backing up to has other things on it and I can't empty it and reformat.
[16:04] <bjorkintosh> it seems to be doing something with my harddrive and won't let me do anything else.
[16:04] <Ti-dev> well the mesa dir happens to be in my home folder...
[16:04] <bazhang> bjorkintosh, open a terminal and type : top
[16:05] <mcphail> twig11: how much data are you backing up?
[16:05] <Paddy_NI> grawity: excellent.. glad to hear it does not depend on having a panel any more
[16:05] <frostburn> Ti-dev, you'll also want to check in with xorg on compiling these modules.
[16:05] <bjorkintosh> bazhang, it will not let me do ANYTHING!
[16:05] <bjorkintosh> including opening a terminal to type 'top'
[16:05] <UbuntuUser> sonism: is absent in system
[16:05] <grawity> Paddy_NI: It does - if Compiz crashes :)
[16:05] <Ti-dev> frostburn, oh ok..thanks :D
[16:05] <frostburn> twig11, backup /home using tar and file permissions will be saved
[16:05] <minimec> UbuntuUser: If not... <alt>F2 gnome-terminal, then sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[16:05] <Paddy_NI> grawity: of course :)
[16:05] <twig11> mcphail: only about 30 Gig
[16:06] <bazhang> bjorkintosh, when did this start
[16:06]  * grawity once had to write "compiz --replace" by copypasting with the mouse ._.
[16:06] <mcphail> twig11: too big for a single file/tar archive then :(
[16:06] <bjorkintosh> approximately 10 minutes ago.
[16:06] <sonism> UbuntuUser: try to install it back
[16:06] <aaronvarghese> PLEASE
[16:06] <bjorkintosh> the last time it happened i rebooted.
[16:06] <aaronvarghese> i need help
[16:06] <aaronvarghese> my ubuntu has shut down
[16:06] <aaronvarghese> please
[16:06] <aaronvarghese> help me
[16:06] <FloodBot1> aaronvarghese: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:06] <aaronvarghese> oh please help me please
[16:06] <bazhang> aaronvarghese, dont flood
[16:06] <UbuntuUser> Cannot register the panel shell: there is already one running.
[16:07] <bazhang> bjorkintosh, what preceded the problems in question
[16:07] <write2copy> aaronvarghese, all good things come in patience :)
[16:07] <bjorkintosh> bazhang, nothing.
[16:07] <Pici> !helpme | aaronvarghese
[16:07] <grawity> UbuntuUser: gnome-panel --replace
[16:07] <bjorkintosh> it just seems to do that whenever i'm not looking.
[16:07] <Impy> Hi could someone help me please? I'm trying to record stuff with my microphone but everytime i tick capture and go back into volume controls it's unselected again. :(
[16:07] <bazhang> bjorkintosh, sounds like an overheating issue then
[16:07] <bjorkintosh> perhaps it doesn't like the 640M ram i've given it.
[16:07] <aaronvarghese> my system has only 5 secs to stay at ubuntu im using wubi please help
[16:07] <aaronvarghese> my system has only 5 secs to stay at ubuntu im using wubi please help
[16:08] <bjorkintosh> bazhang, i've had the machine for 5 years and i have NEVER encountered an overheating issue
[16:08] <write2copy> Impy: what software are you using to capture, and what audio card?
[16:08] <Impy> i'm using audacity
[16:08] <minimec> UbuntuUser: ok. <alt><ctrl>F1, login normally, then sudo apt-get install gnome-panel, then exit, then <alt>F7, logout graphic session.
[16:08] <bazhang> bjorkintosh, well without more info, no real way to help; 'having seziures' is not descriptive
[16:08] <uqs> bazhang, libdvdread4 is installed
[16:08] <bjorkintosh> i can't get into it to find out what's going on or i'd have more info.
[16:08] <kelli> how do i change lots of file names fast?
[16:08] <twig11> grawity: What I've done so far is to individually back up the two user directories from /home. Will I be able to bring them back and drop them in /home after I reinstall? or do I have to back up /home as a whole?
[16:09] <bjorkintosh> it takes 5 minutes to move the mouse 1 inch
[16:09] <bazhang> uqs, all dvd's or just a select few
[16:09] <bazhang> bjorkintosh, what about running a livecd
[16:09] <Impy> write2copy i'm using audacity (http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=43cc11c74bf474b04b68f28b9c41cfaedb41bbff)
[16:09] <klown> I'm getting a mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting <IP_ADDRESS>:/shares/Main/ trying to mount a NAS, anyone have any ideas how ti fix this issue?
[16:09] <bjorkintosh> livecd works fine, but it won't tell me what triggers these seizures.
[16:09] <write2copy> Impy: known problem in audacity, also the volume controls of line-in are in conflict with those of the original OS audio controls
[16:09] <write2copy> atleast it's like that on XP
[16:10] <uqs> bazhang, I have only tried with one. so others may work? I'll try some others
[16:10] <bjorkintosh> i was wondering if there were some disk i/o services i might look to kill
[16:10] <frostburn> klown, it looks like it's not authenticating
[16:10] <Impy> write2copy the thing is it was working the other day :(
[16:10] <Ti-dev> frostbite, I compiled the "autogen.sh" file and it generated a "configure" file within the mesa folder as you asked. I compiled that and then tried make and then make linux-dri-x86 and it's working! :D Thanks...coz you mentioned the "configure" I thought of trying autogen :D Now I just have to pray it comes the way it's supposed to :)
[16:10] <klown> frostburn: theres no password, or username required.
[16:10] <bazhang> uqs, that is odd; very few dvd's have a new copy/protection scheme that will not allow play
[16:10] <write2copy> Impy: are you trying to record through line-in?
[16:10] <mcphail> bjorkintosh: are you running tracker or beagle?
[16:10] <Ti-dev> *frostburn
[16:10] <bjorkintosh> i don't know. i'll find out shortly after the reboot.
[16:10] <bjorkintosh> what are those?
[16:11] <bazhang> bjorkintosh, try restarting in safe mode
[16:11] <frostburn> Ti-dev, most excellent, lets hope the module works
[16:11] <Impy> write2copy nope through the microphone, the microphone plays back sound if i blow into it or tap it
[16:11] <mcphail> bjorkintosh: indexing services.
[16:11] <Ti-dev> yup :D
[16:11] <bjorkintosh> if it's part of the default install, then i most likely am.
[16:11] <kelli> anyone know i can change lots of files names fast
[16:11] <nanotube> hi, question about webcams: so, if i want a simple webcam that "just works (tm)" with ubuntu, what would I get? any personal recommendations? (i know there's a compatibility list for webcams out there, but i was hoping for some individual recommendations)
[16:12] <ILman> hello
[16:12] <ILman> i need help..
[16:12] <nanotube> kelli: rename
[16:12] <write2copy> Impy: is the mic built-in ?
[16:12] <Impy> write2copy nope it's a plug in one
[16:13] <write2copy> Impy: ok, go to audio controls and see if the line-in / microphone is set to max (if not, set it to max)
[16:13] <nanotube> kelli: "man rename" for details
[16:13] <uqs> bazhang, very weird. The Matrix worked just fine, but another pretty old DVD (The Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Fury) didn't work at all
[16:13] <Pici> !ask | Impy
[16:13] <laeg> i reinstalled my root partition including ssh and openssh-server and now when i try to ssh to localhost i'm told: RSA host key for m.y.i.p has changed and you have requested strict checking. - how can i remedy this?
[16:13] <Pici> Impy: sorry, mistab
[16:13] <klien001> test
[16:13] <nanotube> ILman: shoot...
[16:13]  * UnderSampled asks again
[16:13] <Pici> ILman: Just ask your question (on one line!) to the channel and someone will answer.
[16:13] <UnderSampled> I'm trying to install via the network following the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot at the step where I am to paste the folder called "pxelinux.cfg", I am not able to because there is already an (empty) file (not folder) with that name. Can I just delete the empty file? If thats so, why is it even there?
[16:13] <Impy> write2copy they're turned up max
[16:13] <kelli> nanotube, i have 4 folders and wont to merge into on but have same names
[16:13] <ILman> i would like
[16:13] <grawity> laeg: this time, run ssh-keygen -R m.y.i.p
[16:13] <ILman> private talk
[16:13] <ILman> its okay ?
[16:14] <bazhang> uqs, could be a scratch or dust (if very old)
[16:14] <ikonia> ILman: best to ask in the channel
[16:14] <ILman> well
[16:14] <bazhang> ILman, ask here on one line
[16:14] <grawity> laeg: next time, backup /etc/ssh/ssh_host_*
[16:14] <write2copy> Impy: are you sure the 'Record on sound' option is turned off in Audacity?
[16:14] <ILman> i have just installed
[16:14] <ILman> the Ubuntu
[16:14] <klown> frostburn: without a username and password being required..is there any reason i would be getting that nfs error?
[16:14] <bazhang> !enter | ILman
[16:14] <ILman> and i am using it
[16:14] <Impy> write2copy yeah it's off
[16:14] <bazhang> ILman, ONE line
[16:14] <ILman> okay
[16:15] <frostburn> klown, not sure, i haven't used nfs in a long while, what's the exact error you're seeing?
[16:15] <ILman> guide me, what should i do now ?
[16:15] <sonism> bazhang: ILman :D
[16:15] <nanotube> kelli: are the files with the same names the /same file/, and you want to remove duplicates, or are they different, and you want to rename them? if they are dupes, you can use "fdupes" to find duplicate files. if they are not the same and you want to rename... i'm afraid you have to resort to some basic shell scripting.
[16:15] <ILman> how can i check my free space ?
[16:15] <klown> frostburn:  mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting <IP_ADDRESS>:/shares/Main/
[16:15] <grawity> ILman: df -h
[16:15] <ILman> how i get the shell ?
[16:16] <nanotube> ILman: ah, so you are looking for some ubuntu tutorials, then :)
[16:16] <laeg> grawity: i have the public and private key saved, can i import them or is that what your command will do?
[16:16] <ILman> no
[16:16] <uqs> bazhang, no. I've used the DVD maybe once or twice before. Oh well, won't watch many dvds when in ubuntu anyway. Thanks for the help bazhang
[16:16] <Lantizia> I've purged networkmanager from my system and put it back, YET the settings are still there - does anyone know where nm keeps it's settings so I can blast them to pieces!?
[16:16] <frostburn> klown, is the nfs server set up correctly?  does it have an allow from all or that ip?
[16:16] <ILman> i would like to talk with someone on private
[16:16] <nanotube> ILman: to start a shell, go applications -> accessories -> terminal
[16:16] <grawity> laeg: the _server_ has its own set of keys, located in /etc/ssh
[16:16] <nanotube> ILman: command to check disk space is "df"
[16:16] <frostburn> df -h
[16:16] <write2copy> Impy: hmm, I can't really see where the problem lies, can you try to do the same under winXP?
[16:16] <bazhang> uqs, you may consider ripping then
[16:16] <AJC_Z0> frostburn, Oceanic, moncky: Thanks for your suggestions. Any other things worth trying? FWIW, in the past logging out and back in has caused sound to start working
[16:17] <ILman> i am getting alot of numbers
[16:17] <ILman> which one is my total free space ?
[16:17] <AJC_Z0> I would prefer not to have to do that
[16:17] <uqs> bazhang, sure. if I feel the urge to watch that particual movie and can't get it from the net :9
[16:17] <klown> frostburn: in my /etc/hosts.allow I have 'ALL:LOCAL"
[16:17] <nanotube> ILman: free space is listed in the "available" column
[16:17] <klown> frostburn: I'm not sure if this is correct, I am still trying to learn.
[16:17] <frostburn> AJC_Z0, i've experienced the same thing with sound
[16:17] <ILman> can someone talks with me on private ?
[16:17] <frostburn> klown, what about /etc/exports ?
[16:18] <ILman> i got it but where is the sum ?
[16:18] <ILman> total free space ?
[16:18] <nanotube> ILman: if you have multiple partitions, each partition gets its own number
[16:18] <grawity> ILman: df -h /
[16:18] <ILman> i did it
[16:18] <nanotube> ILman: ehrm... add them up yourself. :)
[16:18] <klown> frostburn: if it isnt another pc, is a line in /etc/exports required?  if so, how exactly would I put it in there.
[16:18] <grawity> ILman: do it again with a slash after it
[16:18] <grawity> nanotube: bad idea, as there are a few tmpfs and similar filesystems that share space.
[16:19] <ILman> and now what ?
[16:19] <ILman> df -h\
[16:19] <nanotube> grawity: true... would the "df /" show sum for all filesystems, even if there are other mount points?
[16:19] <klown> frostburn: the reason I ask, is because im not "exporting" to another device, im trying to "import" i guess.
[16:19] <grawity> ILman: df -h /
[16:19] <nanotube> ILman: forward slash
[16:19] <grawity> ILman: NOT df -h\
[16:19] <ILman> okay
[16:19] <ILman> its written
[16:19] <ILman> 203mb
[16:19] <ILman> but its impossible
[16:20]  * grawity leaves before his IQ drops more.
[16:20] <frostburn> klown, afaik, yes it's required, check out man exports   and I hate doing this, but check out the google http://www.google.com/search?q=nfs+exports&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a     like i said, it's been a long while since i've used nfs, i've used samba for security
[16:20] <sonism> ILman: why would that it be impossible?
[16:20] <twig11> grawity: just want to know if I'm going to be really really sorry if I copied my two user directories separately out of /home to a fat drive or should I start over? The filesystem on the drive isn't really able to be changed right now unless I partition it, which I don't know how to do. Can I just go ahead as I am and come back here for help with permissions afterward or is that asking for trouble?
[16:20] <klown> frostburn: afaik?  I will attempt to re-read what I can, see if the /etc/exports will help me out
[16:21] <ILman> cause i should have somehting like 70G free
[16:21] <th0r> twig11: no problem...you can copy the directories back into /home when you are ready.  I've had problems with sound not working in feisty which turned out to be one the umpteen volume controls being too low, but not seen (heard?) sound just stop working like this
[16:22] <ILman> i use 2 pc's
[16:22] <ILman> then i cant much past it
[16:22] <twig11> th0r: are the problems I have likely to be fixable by a newbie with a little coaching from the friendly board?
[16:22] <klown> frostburn: thanks for the help :)
[16:22] <ILman> but it works faster
[16:22] <ILman> well how can i here music ?
[16:22] <ILman> listen to *
[16:22] <th0r> twig11: yeah...they shouldn't be too hard. But consider making /home a separate partition when you reinstall so you avoid this in the future
[16:23] <hubert__> hello
[16:23] <th0r> twig11: are you sure /home is NOT separate now?
[16:23] <twig11> th0r: Pretty sure. But how do I find out?
[16:23] <UnderSampled> Can anyone help me?
[16:24] <twig11> !anyone
[16:24] <frostburn> twig11, mount
[16:24] <marek__> helow
[16:24] <th0r> twig11: in a terminal type 'df -h'. There should be an entry for '/', and if /home is a separate partition there will be a separate line for /home
[16:24] <frostburn> if it's separate it'll display there
[16:24] <marek__> elo
[16:25] <hwilde> why would ndiswrapper break my soundcard?
[16:25] <marek__> jest tu kto?
[16:25] <marek__> i don't now :))
[16:25] <bazhang> marek__, #ubuntu-pl
[16:25] <arf_stoned> arf_stoned
[16:25] <marek__> what?
[16:25] <nickolaus> I am trying to format and external hard drive to NTFS in ubuntu and i seem to be running into a wall. The hard drive is currently formatted to ext3. I tried gparted but i'm not seeing an option to format. There is a "Format to" option but it's greyed out.
[16:25] <bazhang> marek__, /join #ubuntu-pl
[16:25] <sonism> ILman: i think that's not relevant with your previous question. one question at one time pls....
[16:26] <minimec> nickolaus: You have to unmount the partition first.
[16:26] <twig11> th0r: frostburn: doesn't look like /home is a separate partition. I did the default install to start with.
[16:26] <th0r> nickolaus: try deleting the ext3 partition and then defining a new ntfs partition
[16:26] <Rabbitssoftworks> Help
[16:26] <frostburn> !ask | Rabbitssoftworks
[16:26] <bazhang> Rabbitssoftworks, need a question
[16:26] <th0r> twig11: then the copies you have will be ok...just require a little tweaking once you  get them back in place
[16:27] <twig11> th0r: so I'll pop in my shiny 9.04 disc from Canonical...
[16:27] <dlord> Is there a way I can boot to a command prompt from a Live CD?
[16:28] <marek__> o czym wy tu gadacie?
[16:28] <th0r> twig11: you can reinstall, define yourself as a user just like you did before, and make sure to install xchat so you can get back here
[16:28] <bazhang> marek__, english here; #ubuntu-pl for Polish
[16:28] <nickolaus> th0r i got it to allow me to use "Format to" but NTFS is also greyed out.
[16:28] <bazhang> marek__, /join #ubuntu-pl
[16:28] <th0r> nickolaus: you might not have ntfs-3g installed.
[16:29] <twig11> th0r: actually, I can stay here the whole time. I'm online with my laptop, not the ubuntu system.
[16:29] <th0r> nickolaus: do you have a windows partition on the computer as well....would actually be better to format ntfs in windows if you can
[16:30] <sonism> dlord: what command promt? of the installed system?
[16:30] <nickolaus> th0r i do
[16:30] <th0r> nickolaus: you might also prefer to settle for vfat instead of ntfs
[16:30] <dlord> sonism: Instead of booting into the gui I would like to go to the command line.
[16:31] <twig11> th0r: That's the reason I'm reinstalling, actually. I hit an impasse where iwconfig wouldn't save my ESSID for a wireless network no matter what I did. I had kevdog and gogeta at the end of their ropes. gogeta said reinstall the #*/@%& thing and I really don't know what else to do. I spent hours and hours on it and it seems like something's corrupted.
[16:31] <nickolaus> th0r i have to do alot of windows backups so i thought i would just go with ntfs to avoid problems.
[16:32] <th0r> nickolaus: probably a good idea....but I would do the format in windows if that option is available
[16:33] <minimec> twig11: You could configure it the old debian way in /etc/network/interfaces with the iwconfig commands. Your choice...
[16:33] <sonism> dlord: just press CTRL+ALT+F1 at the gui logon
[16:33] <UnderSampled> Hello?
[16:34] <charnel> does anyone knows how to edit $PATH ?
[16:34] <charnel> I want to remove some addresses from the $PATH variable
[16:34] <dlord> sonism: My problem is I can't get that far.  The video driver is not loading, and for some reason the Live CD is trying to use my Hard Drive which I need to re-partition because it got hosed.
[16:34] <Mandrake6> \join #ubuntu-br
[16:34] <twig11> minimec: Don't worry, I DID do it with iwconfig commands. and more iwconfig. and dhclient. over and over. doesn't work. And I did have it working earlier. I've given up.
[16:34] <charnel> does anyone knows how to edit the $PATH ?
[16:35] <th0r> charnel: you don't edit it, you redefine it. If you want to remove some portion, you just set PATH=<whatever is left>
[16:35] <minimec> so... reinstall the #*/@%& thing ;)
[16:35] <frostburn> charnel, PATH is defined in your .bashrc or .bash_profile
[16:35] <charnel> i dont have a .bash.profile
[16:35] <twig11> th0r: I'll need some help on configuring /home as a separate partition, I think. I'm booting from the desktop cd now...
[16:36] <th0r> twig11: how much disk space do you have for ubuntu, and how much memory
[16:36] <th0r> twig11: when it gets to the partitioning choose to do a custom partition
[16:37] <twig11> th0r: about 70 Gig, nothing on it but ubuntu, I think 512 M RAM
[16:37] <TSlackM> where can i find the .lircrc file i need to edit to get rhythmbox to work with lirc?
[16:37] <th0r> twig11: ok....I would suggest 15G for /, 1.5G for swap (a little large but what the heck) and the remainder for /home
[16:38] <slogum> yo
[16:38] <dgandhi1> I'm trying to back up a website which is encoded in utf-16, The obvious choice, wget, does not seem to be able to deal with non-ascii encoded html, any leads would be appreciated.
[16:38] <th0r> twig11: actually, make that 1G for swap
[16:38] <twig11> th0r: okay
[16:38] <twig11> it's still loading
[16:39] <sonism> dlord: so, you get stucked when using LiveCD?
[16:39] <th0r> twig11: np
[16:39] <twig11> This board is awesome, by the way.
[16:39] <frostburn> dgandhi1, try curl
[16:39] <slogum> test
[16:39] <dlord> sonism: Right. I select the "Try Ubuntu" Selection then it starts throwing errors that it can't access the /dev/sda4
[16:40] <slogum> .
[16:40] <sonism> dgandhi1: try it using rsync
[16:41] <twig11> th0r: okay, the option I want is "Specify partitions manually (advanced) ?
[16:41] <th0r> twig11: right
[16:41] <th0r> twig11: first set up a 15GB partition with a mount point of '/'
[16:41] <dgandhi1> frostburn: I didn't see options for recursion in the curl man page
[16:41] <th0r> twig11: you can use either ext3 or ext4...your choice. I used ext4 with no problems, but some people are still a little gunshy about it and prefer ext3
[16:42] <dgandhi1> sonism: can I rsync over http?
[16:42] <charnel> one more question . editing .profile is just for editing the $PATH right ? Does it do anything more . Iwant to make the cakephp console running in Ubuntu. I installed the package but it is out of date .
[16:42] <charnel> So I am trying to install it manually
[16:42] <twig11> th0r: New partition table?
[16:43] <th0r> twig11: the whole drive is for ubuntu, right?
[16:43] <sonism> dgandhi: you can rsync using the combination of rsync server and ssh server
[16:43] <twig11> th0r: yep
[16:43] <th0r> twig11: then yes, new partition table
[16:43] <frostburn> dgandhi1, i'm not sure if there is one
[16:44] <dgandhi1> sonism: the site in on a server without shell access, I'm trying to back it up to my local ubuntu machine.
[16:44] <frostburn> CharelB, .bash_profile is invoked whenever a new bash shell is opened, it can control any aspect of the shell such as environmental variables, like path, or run scripts
[16:44] <th0r> twig11: you realize that as we speak there are three or four others trying frantically to keep up, and half a dozen more taking notes furiously for when they install ubuntu <smile>
[16:44] <Hilikus> hey guys, whats the difference between alsa and pulseaudio
[16:44] <twig11> th0r: fun
[16:45] <frostburn> th0r, twig11, log #ubuntu, grep later =]
[16:45] <th0r> twig11: second partition will be 1GB for swap, so no mount point is defined
[16:45] <twig11> th0r: okay location beginning, ext3, type Primary, mount point /
[16:46] <minerva> hey all - i need some help with my computer... my sound is not working - i am new to this.... but i cannot get any sound at all to work
[16:46] <marcel_> hello, i want to enable anonymous user access to my cvs server, how can i do this?
[16:46] <th0r> twig11: sounds good
[16:46] <th0r> twig11: 15gb, right?
[16:46] <charnel> I am editign the $PATH but it stil does not work
[16:46] <th0r> twig11: just got dropped...hope you are still there
[16:47] <twig11> th0r: 15000 M?
[16:47] <sonism> dgandhi1: well, that's to bad... rsync is the tool you want for good reliability in backup operation... try other mirror that serve rsync....
[16:47] <th0r> twig11: right
[16:47] <minimec> minerva: That doesn't sound good... Is that a clean install you did? And what Distro? Jaunty?
[16:47] <th0r> twig11: close enough <smile>
[16:47] <UnderSampled> is there a way to convert a normal 9.04 install over to the lpia architecture?
[16:47] <fccf> marcel_: read this howto http://bobbyallen.wordpress.com/2006/12/29/how-to-setup-anonymous-cvs-access-on-ubuntu-server-606/
[16:48] <twig11> th0r: new partition. size in M
[16:48] <th0r> twig11: second partition is swap...rules say 1.5 times ram size, but make it an even 1G
[16:48] <marcel_> fccf, i tried that but that doesnt work
[16:48] <twig11> th0r: That isn't exactly 1000 Mb is it?
[16:49] <da-playaz> hi
[16:49] <th0r> twig11: and all you need to do is define it as swap...everything else will be taken care of
[16:49] <da-playaz> :)
[16:49] <th0r> twig11: right...1024M is 1G
[16:49] <da-playaz> hi
[16:49] <balloooza> da-playaz: hi
[16:49] <da-playaz> balloooza: nice to meet you
[16:49] <twig11> th0r: Use as: swap area
[16:49] <th0r> twig11: right
[16:50] <twig11> th0r: beginning
[16:50] <da-playaz> its my first time here
[16:50] <reginaldo> I am not able to burn a picture dvd for dvd player, I got all the burners programs already
[16:50] <th0r> twig11: yeah should be oik
[16:50] <twig11> th0r: okay done
[16:50] <da-playaz> who can help me to configure my ubuntu on my laptop
[16:50] <th0r> twig11: third partition is whatever is left for /home...again, either ext3 or ext4, your choice
[16:50] <minerva> yes a clean install but i dont know what distro or jaunty are... sorry im a noob with this on all levels
[16:50] <da-playaz> I need help
[16:51] <balloooza> da-playaz: I can help
[16:51] <shivek> Hi everyone !
[16:51] <bucky> marcel_: you can't log in as anonymous user from a remote host?
[16:51] <twig11> th0r: Mount point: /home
[16:51] <th0r> twig11: right. and on the next screen make sure everything is ok...there won't be another chance to get this right
[16:51] <marcel_> bucky, i have my own cvs server, i want to enable anonymous access
[16:51] <da-playaz> balloooza: it would be very friendly if you could help me
[16:52] <bucky> marcel_: so you don't have anonymous access from localhost?
[16:52] <reginaldo> anyone can help me to burn a picture dvd?
[16:52] <balloooza> da-playaz: do you mean configure as in install, or get the drivers, software et ceter
[16:52] <Hilikus> whats the difference between alsa and pulseaudio
[16:52] <twig11> th0r:
[16:52] <marcel_> bucky, no
[16:52] <twig11> oops
[16:52] <Hilikus> and which one is better
[16:52] <shivek> I'm planning to convert my home pc into a web server. How much would it affect my computer's performance. Any idea ! ?
[16:52] <da-playaz> I let install ubuntu on my computer 3 days ago but I need programms
[16:52] <Hilikus> shivek: depends on traffic probably
[16:52] <da-playaz> software etc. and everything what I need
[16:52] <mcphail> shivek: depends how popular your website is
[16:52] <minimec> minerva: Can you open a terminal <alt>F2 gnome-terminal and type lspci | grep audio in it?
[16:52] <bucky> marcel_: is the cvs server running?
[16:53] <newuser007> hi can anybody help me to install nmap
[16:53] <balloooza> da-playaz: so you are talking about windows alternitives
[16:53] <frostburn> shivek, not hard at all, performance loss would be dependent on what you're hosting and to how many people access it at the same time
[16:53] <da-playaz> I dont know to use ubuntu
[16:53] <marcel_> bucky, yes, i can login with a user and password, but not with anonymous
[16:53] <Hilikus> shivek: and what kind of website
[16:53] <Hilikus> shivek: and what kind of hardware
[16:53] <da-playaz> no I am now ubuntu irc
[16:53] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/ da-playaz read this then
[16:53] <AJC_Z0> frostburn, Oceanic, moncky: What part of this fixed it I can't say, but I added "options snd-hda-intel model=laptop enable=1 index=0" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and ran "sudo alsa force-reload", then sound came back
[16:53] <da-playaz> and I use ubuntu now
[16:53] <sonism> newuser007: sudo apt-get install nmap
[16:54] <Tetracomm> Does anyone here know how to deal with Ebooks? I have one without a clickable table of contents (index) and I really can't deal with that.
[16:54] <bazhang> da-playaz, ask a question then, all on ONE line
[16:54] <balloooza> da-playaz: so, what is your question,
[16:54] <newuser007> sonism: its not work
[16:54] <twig11> th0r: /dev/sda1  ext3 mount point / size 15002 MB; /dev/sda5 type swap, size 1019 MB; /dev/sda6, type ext3, mount point /home, 64000 MB.
[16:54] <da-playaz> bazhang: ok I am just reading
[16:54] <frostburn> AJC_Z0, excellent, you may want to document that in the forums or wiki
[16:54] <Ti-dev> frostburn, I compiled linux-dri-x86 but got some error messages. So I tried linux-dri. No go :(
[16:54] <mcphail> Tetracomm: the program lablelled "ebook reader" on the UNR handles .epub files with TOC fine
[16:55] <shivek> Hi likus: I've a custom Pc .2gigs ram 160 gigs hard disk core2duo2.53  And i plan to host a personal website.
[16:55] <sonism> newuser007: what did it say?
[16:55] <Tetracomm> mcphail: This is a PDF. :(
[16:55] <mcphail> Tetracomm: not at that computer just now so I don't know the name of the package
[16:55] <minerva> ok - nothing happened...
[16:55] <diddy> my netstat is showing tons of ports established/listening to python. How can I find out what program that is?
[16:55] <da-playaz> my desktop is so simple and I want have an exciting desktop
[16:55] <th0r> twig11: looks good, but let's talk about it a minute. I set aside 35GB for my / but now am really sorry. With all my -devs and everything I am only using about 6.5GB. So 15GB should be fine...but if you want to make any changes now is the itme to do it
[16:55] <da-playaz> and I want have fun with my ubuntu
[16:55] <mcphail> Tetracomm: most PDF readers should be able to click on links from a PDF if it has been constructed correctly
[16:55] <bazhang> !themes | da-playaz check here
[16:55] <purefusion> the usb-creator confuses me
[16:56] <da-playaz> so tell me please how can I get my fun on ubuntu
[16:56] <Tetracomm> mcphail: Well Evince and Adobe don't.
[16:56] <shivek> da-playaz: Try compiz fusion
[16:56] <Paddy_NI_> !details | purefusion
[16:56] <mcphail> Tetracomm: the PDF prob hasn't been created with hyperlinks
[16:56] <UnderSampled> could someone please help me with installing over the network?
[16:56] <Tetracomm> What is wrong with the person that created it.
[16:56] <Hilikus> shivek: you'll be fine then
[16:56] <reginaldo> how to make picture dvd?
[16:56] <Hilikus> shivek: what kind of website
[16:56] <CaptainMorgan> 5
[16:56] <purefusion> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/usb-creator - it doesn't say how to tell it which usb drive I want to use
[16:56] <da-playaz> shivek: ok I will try it but I dont know how to install this themes or software on ubuntu
[16:57] <Hilikus> shivek: specifically, mysql access? php?
[16:57] <minimec> minerva: use my nick at the beginning of your post... So type lspci in the terminal and use paste.ubuntu.com to copy paste the results.
[16:57] <balloooza> shivek: I think that is overkill, I use a 800 MHz 368MB memory, it is fine for web server, and I run ubuntu server 8.04, with this web administration called ebox, if you would like, we can take this to server (#ubuntu-server)
[16:57] <twig11> th0r: What sort of things would I be doing that could fill up the space on / ?
[16:57] <bazhang> da-playaz, then you need to do some reading first.
[16:57] <mcphail> Tetracomm: the PDF file would have to be created with links/anchors like a web page for that sort of thing to work. Sounds like your file hasn't been
[16:57] <balloooza> Hilikus: do you think that is best for ubuntu-server?
[16:57] <twig11> th0r: remembering that I'm not what you'd probably consider a power user.
[16:57] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community http://wiki.ubuntu.com da-playaz
[16:58] <Ti-dev> frostburn, make[3]: *** [dri2.o] Error 1 | make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/hat3t0b3idl3/mesa/src/glx/x11' | make[2]: *** [subdirs] Error 1 | make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/hat3t0b3idl3/mesa/src' | make[1]: *** [default] Error 1 | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/hat3t0b3idl3/mesa' | make: *** [linux-dri] Error 2
[16:58] <th0r> twig11: not much....all the software you install via synaptic goes there, but all your personal stuff goes in /home...so like I said...with everything I installed I still only used 6.5GB so for you 15GB should be plenty
[16:58] <shivek> balloooza: Yes take it to that server
[16:58] <frostburn> diddy, what's the exact line?
[16:58] <Anirban1987> when I am pinging an ip address I am getting result but I am unable to ping site such as google.com
[16:58] <Hilikus> balloooza: what is?
[16:58] <Ti-dev> (I use the pipe "|" as line break)
[16:58] <diddy> frostburn: Too many to list.
[16:58] <frostburn> Ti-dev, that means it didn't compile, the line above that should tell you what file it failed on
[16:58] <frostburn> diddy, can you paste bin one or two?
[16:58] <firecrotch> Anirban1987: Sounds like your DNS server is not set up properly
[16:59] <da-playaz> ok I want to get as theme azanis gnome and I pressed on bottom but it opens only the pic there is no download link
[16:59] <Ti-dev> frostburn, you mean the line above the whole thing I printed now?
[16:59] <firecrotch> Anirban1987: or not responding, or something like that
[16:59] <diddy> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:40052      <IP_ADDRESS>:16757     ESTABLISHED 1000       1917589     20210/python
[16:59] <twig11> th0r: but you're saying it's unlikely I'd even use up 10 GB. And my HD is cramped. can I make it smaller?
[16:59] <da-playaz> how can I get this theme
[16:59] <diddy> frostburn, tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:40052      <IP_ADDRESS>:16757     ESTABLISHED 1000       1917589     20210/python
[16:59] <Ti-dev> frostburn: well, above that there's a LOT
[16:59] <Anirban1987> ping: unknown host techdarpan.com
[16:59] <th0r> twig11: if you want to make it smaller now is the time...you can't go back later and change it. That is why I brought it up now <smile>
[16:59] <Ti-dev> 1/4 terminal I'd suppose :D
[16:59] <frostburn> Ti-dev, yeah, for compile errors you'll want to refer to the the provider of the code, xorg, dri
[17:00] <Ti-dev> oh...ok
[17:00] <firecrotch> Anirban1987: What about a more... wellknown hostname? ping google.com ?
[17:00] <th0r> twig11: 10GB would be fine for now....I always plan two or three releases down the pike
[17:00] <Anirban1987> ping: unknown host google.com
[17:00] <twig11> th0r: Maybe I'll stick with 15. so here goes.
[17:00] <firecrotch> Anirban1987:  What do you get when you do "dig google.com" ?
[17:01] <th0r> twig11: I am really comfortable with those numbers
[17:01] <AJC_Z0> frostburn: If I knew the right thing to write and the right place to write it, I would. In this case it was a stab in the dark based on advice found via Google and I don't even know what actually fixed it
[17:01] <th0r> twig11: if you need more space for music, photos, etc you can always use a usb drive
[17:01] <Anirban1987> -bash: dig: command not found
[17:01] <frostburn> diddy, anything pop up on ps -ef|grep python       ?
[17:02] <twig11> th0r: yep, and I have a 500 GB one: that's what I backed up to.
[17:02] <andre_pl> Does anyone know where the extension->program associations are stored for bash's completion?
[17:02] <minerva> minimec: correct? alright I brought up the screen... typed in lspci - hit run and the screen just goes away - nothing happens or comes up.
[17:02] <th0r> 500,000,000,000 wrong places to put something!
[17:02] <bazhang> da-playaz, download, drag tar.gz to appearances (theme tab) then choose
[17:03] <firecrotch> Anirban1987, install the package "dig"  (sudo apt-get install dig), as it will help greatly in resolving your DNS problem
[17:03] <twig11> th0r: :-/ Now is there anything important about the details I enter for my user information, that might make it easier or harder to import my backups?
[17:04] <klown> I am all out of ideas, anyone want to provide any insight to updating my /etc/exports file
[17:04] <vise> anyone setup rosegarden with qsynth and jack? i don't have a midi hardware support. So im using qsynth. But i don't get any sound..
[17:04] <th0r> twig11: just define yourself for now, and make sure you define yourself just as you did last time...same username
[17:04] <fccf> twig11: did you backup the entiriety of your old home folder?
[17:04] <diddy> frostburn: Yes, I got it. Thx! Great trick!
[17:04] <twig11> fccf: no
[17:05] <mcphail> vise: are you controlling jack with qjackctl?
[17:05] <Anirban1987> E: Couldn't find package dig ... Seems unable to reach any http servers
[17:05] <twig11> hope that's nota disaster
[17:05] <th0r> fccf: he backed up both users...jsut didn't get /home itself
[17:05] <vise> mcphail, Yes.. i pressed the "start" button on the jack control...
[17:05] <twig11> th0r: same password?
[17:05] <minimec> minerva: I don't understand what you mean by 'brought up the screen'...
[17:05] <Nameless_au> ok i have a fresh dualboot install of kubuntu and vista. grub is in the mbr, vista loads, all is good. for this kubuntu install i have a primary partition 500MB for /boot, then a big LVM partition. in the LVM i have a swap part. and one for this filesystem. How do i install another distro, and let it use the same swap and /boot partition without fail? also, what do i do regarding grub? thanks
[17:05] <th0r> twig11: if you like...not important one way or the toher
[17:05] <mcphail> vise: is jack running properly?
[17:05] <twig11> th0r: same machine name?
[17:06] <th0r> twig11: again...up to you
[17:06] <vise> mcphail, I think so.. since i directed audacity output to it, and it played nicely on jack instead of alsa...
[17:06] <dgandhi1> in case anybody wanted to know how to suck down a website in utf-16, I used httrack, which is in the repositories under webhttrack.
[17:06] <minerva> minimec: you said hit alt + f2 correct? that brings up a run application pop up
[17:06] <mcphail> vise: have you connected the outputs from qsynth to your souncard in qjackctl?
[17:06] <twig11> th0r: okay, installing.
[17:07] <th0r> twig11: ok....now comes the hard part....waiting
[17:07] <frostburn> dgandhi1, cool, thanks for sharing, i'll keep it in mind
[17:07] <firecrotch> Anirban1987:  cat /etc/resolv.conf
[17:07] <twig11> th0r: yep.
[17:07] <da-playaz> :(
[17:07] <da-playaz> it doesnt work
[17:07] <minimec> minerva: yes. that's ok. Then you have to type gnome-terminal in it. That starts the gnome-terminal. Then lspci | grep audio
[17:07] <da-playaz> I cant configure my desktop
[17:07] <da-playaz> looooool
[17:07] <th0r> twig11: what username did you use?
[17:07] <minimec> minerva: That normally gives you one line containing all info aobut your soundcard.
[17:07] <twig11> th0r: anthony
[17:08] <fccf> !enter | da-playaz
[17:08] <fccf> !guidelines | da-playaz
[17:08] <OttifantSir> reginaldo: What do you mean by a picture DVD? A DVD that plays a picture slideshow when you pop it in a DVD-player?
[17:08] <Anirban1987> there isn't any such file :(
[17:08] <Socah> Hello #Ubuntu
[17:09] <th0r> twig11: then once the install completes, reboot into ubuntu, mount the usb drive and copy the home folders in place. Then you need to open a terminal and type 'sudo chown -R anthony:anthony /home/anthony'
[17:09] <ubuntu> Hi, i have an Sony VIO VGN-FZ31M. Problem is that when i plug in headphones the sound still comes out from speakers and there is no sound in headphone jack.
[17:09] <th0r> twig11: you said there was a second user...so you will need to do the same for the second user
[17:09] <vise> mcphail, I did not configure anything, but by default, in the Audio section, in qsynth(readable clients), the "l_00" and "r_00" are connected to playback_1 and playback_2 on the right pane (writable clients)
[17:09] <mcphail> vise: have you loaded a soundfont into qsynth?
[17:09] <icqn> if a web page in firefox for example contains an applet, witch plays sound, sound does not work anywhere else, how to turn sound in java applets off? or how to solve this issue?
[17:10] <bazhang> da-playaz, sure it works; just drag and drop it
[17:10] <_CommandeR_> Hi, i have an Sony VIO VGN-FZ31M. Problem is that when i plug in headphones the sound still comes out from speakers and there is no sound in headphone jack.
[17:10] <vise> mcphail, Yes, "HS magic techno drums.SF2" for testing, which i downloaded from hammersound.com .. Not a full fledged one, but yes, it's loaded...
[17:11] <twig11> th0r: I accidentally dropped out of the chat. Can you give me those last couple instructions again so I can copy them down? I haven't figured out how to make a satisfactory transcript of a complete discussion in Colloquy.
[17:11] <da-playaz> everybody of my friends told me ubuntu is a very performed system
[17:11] <da-playaz> but it is very difficult
[17:11] <da-playaz> this sux
[17:11] <da-playaz> I need a proffesional friend who is very on ubuntu
[17:11] <da-playaz> and who is willing to help me to configure my ubuntu on my laptop
[17:11] <FloodBot1> da-playaz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:11] <da-playaz> bazhang : can you login yourself in my laptop and do all the configuration life so that I can watch you and learn to use ubuntu
[17:11] <fccf> Anirban1987: sudo apt-get install net-tools
[17:11] <da-playaz> bazhan: please
[17:11] <th0r> twig11: then once the install completes, reboot into ubuntu, mount the usb drive and copy the home folders in place. Then you need to open a terminal and type 'sudo chown -R anthony:anthony /home/anthony'
[17:12] <OttifantSir> icqn: Apparently, what you need is earcandy. There's info on it here: https://launchpad.net/earcandy It's not in the repositories, and as far as I've found, there's no official PPA for it. So you'll need to research it a bit.
[17:12] <reginaldo> how to burn a jpg dvd ?
[17:12] <th0r> twig11: you said there was a second user...so you will need to do the same for the second user
[17:12] <mcphail> vise: should be working ok then. have you tried controlling qsynth from the virtual keyboard program?
[17:12] <da-playaz> sorry
[17:12] <bazhang> da-playaz, stop flooding. it is drag and drop very very easy
[17:12] <Anirban1987> net-tools is already the newest version.
[17:12] <dAnon> why can't I write in NTFS
[17:12] <twig11> th0r: thanks
[17:12] <vise> mcphail, It's in rosegarden? Ill try that..
[17:12] <icqn> OttifantSir, me, why would i want earncandy?
[17:12] <dAnon> on one partition I can, on the other one I can't write in NTSF
[17:12] <adhil> da-playaz what are the things u need to configure?
[17:13] <bazhang> da-playaz, right click on desktop, choose change background appearance, then go to the theme tab and drag the tar.gz file there and choose it
[17:13] <mcphail> vise: no - not the one in rosegarden. There is a standalone vkeybd package which is quite good for testing
[17:13] <rogst> When I plug in my external monitor into my laptop and run xrandr -q the highest resolutions listed for VGA is 1280x1024, but the monitor is a 23" widescreen that can do 1680x1050. Why cant I get any higher resolutions, my laptop got an Intel x4500 graphics card ?
[17:13] <fccf> Anirban1987: and you can't dig? strange
[17:14] <tyby> here i can duel?
[17:14] <fccf> rogst: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[17:14] <fenix_> hawuuuu
[17:14] <rogst> fccf: Ubuntu 9.04
[17:14] <Anirban1987> fccf : Nope
[17:14] <th0r> twig11: now in the future if you want to reinstall just reformat /, do not format /home. you can reinstall the whole of ubuntu and still have all your data in /home intact
[17:14] <OttifantSir> icqn: earcandy gives you configuration options for PulseAudio, and apparently solves your problem. Sorry if I didn't understand you correctly.
[17:14] <Baba_B00ie> to mod bash aliases, do i go under ~home/username/.bashrc and edit that file ?
[17:14] <th0r> twig11: I always do a reinstall instead of an upgrade....saves a lot of headaches
[17:14] <fccf> rogst: there is a regression in the intel video drivers see !intel
[17:14] <fccf> !intel
[17:14] <twig11> th0r: That's comforting. Wish I had done that in the first place.
[17:15] <icqn> !info earcandy
[17:15] <th0r> twig11: yeah...would have saved a lot of problems
[17:15] <rogst> fccf: okay will read them, thanks
[17:15] <Cryptorchild> my battery state could not be recognize, any clue?
[17:15] <th0r> twig11: well...not a lot...but would have been easier
[17:15] <icqn> OttifantSir, well, it is too risky, it can break my system... do you use it?
[17:15] <ubuntunewbie> what is the different between visualization (vmware) and (virtual box) ?
[17:15] <vise> mcphail, I got vkeybd and ran it.. But keys don't play anything.. Configuration required for it?
[17:16] <twig11> th0r: If I do a renstall in the future, will I have to also reinstall any software I've installed afterward?
[17:16] <Cryptorchild> !info acpi
[17:16] <fccf> rogst: you may consider using an earlier version... I have intel running 8.04 and Hi-Res is no problem
[17:16] <bazhang> ubuntunewbie, virtualization not visualization
[17:16] <mcphail> vise: just connect it to qsynth in the qjackctl connection manager
[17:16] <bazhang> ubuntunewbie, vmware and vbox are examples of virtualization
[17:16] <ubuntunewbie> bazhang: oh...
[17:16] <tuntis> I have an Asus Eee 1000HE - when I leave it alone for extended periods of time, the screen just goes blank and nothing restores it and forces me to restart.
[17:16] <rogst> fccf: It it possible to only downgrade the video driver part to get 9.04 and higher res ?
[17:16] <th0r> twig11: yes...you will. Gives you a chance to get rid of all the stuff you really didn't need
[17:16] <Baba_B00ie> anyone have issues with ubuntu 9.04 and hibernation, suspend, wakeup modes ?
[17:17] <ubuntunewbie> bazhang: so what's the different between them ? not same company ?
[17:17] <fccf> rogst: nope - the only way to do what I am saying is to reinstall
[17:17] <rogst> fccf: okay
[17:17] <OttifantSir> icqn: No, I don't have the need to. I have just read some info on it, and heard people saying it solved their problems.
[17:17] <twig11> th0r: But the prefs for that software would still be stored in /home, right?
[17:17] <vise> mcphail, Alright! Thanx! So this is what i was missing.. Do i do the same for rosegarden? (connect rosegarden to fluidsynth)?
[17:17] <bazhang> ubuntunewbie, one is in repos virtualbox-ose and the other choice is to get virtualbox from the makers website, similarly for vmware
[17:18] <mcphail> vise: yes!
[17:18] <twig11> th0r: bookmarks, for instance
[17:18] <vise> phew!
[17:18] <th0r> twig11: right, and all the data files too if you keep them in your /home directory
[17:18] <mcphail> vise: consider installing the realtime kernel or the full ubuntu-studio package
[17:18] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox ubuntunewbie
[17:18] <twig11> th0r: okay that should be no problem for me then.
[17:19] <vise> mcphail, Yes for the realtime kernel.. But why ubuntu-studio?
[17:19] <reginaldo> anyone know to burn pictures dvd/cd for dvd players?
[17:19] <Travis-42> how do I change a user's home directory's location?
[17:19] <twig11> th0r: installation complete. restarting...
[17:20] <mcphail> vise: it's more or less an "all you need" solution
[17:20] <rameshwor> i had downloaded some software from repositories..  in ubuntu 8.10 but i'm thinking to move to Xubuntu 9.04 will that packags work for the Xubuntu 9.04 also  ? or some will work and some may not ??
[17:20] <jrib> Travis-42: usermod
[17:20] <th0r> twig11: that is why we put most of the drive in /home. When you are working in linux, actually doing work, your world should be /home...there should be no place else <smile>
[17:20] <icqn> if a web page in firefox for example contains an applet, witch plays sound, sound does not work anywhere else, how to turn sound in java applets off? or how to solve this issue?
[17:20] <bazhang> rameshwor, there are version for 9.04
[17:20] <mcphail> vise: not essential
[17:20] <Travis-42> thanks jrib
[17:20] <rameshwor> bazhang: yes.. but if i don't want to download it again ? will it work ?
[17:21] <stratocaster> Im' looking for the deb package 2fc for ubuntu 64bits, anyone can tell me the link of the repository where i can download the deb?
[17:21] <th0r> twig11: after you have changed the ownership of your files, you will have to go through them changing permissions...we will have to see how bad that part is messed up
[17:21] <vise> mcphail, Okay.. Now the sound fonts i loaded consist of drums.. But they show up as unlabeled piano keys in the matrix editor.. Is it possible to indicate the names in rosegarden? (im used to FL.. :))
[17:21] <bazhang> rameshwor, which packages
[17:21] <twig11> th0r: That's one of the few concepts I've already mastered. :-)
[17:21] <twig11> th0r: storing stuff in home only, I mean
[17:21] <rameshwor> bazhang: which ??  some softwares..  that i downloaded ...
[17:21] <ubuntunewbie> bazhang: oh .... now I know more , so if I had a window install on other partition , can I use the existing window or I need to install a new window to use it ?
[17:21] <mcphail> vise: not very familiar with rosegarden tbh. I use hydrogen for drums and apart from that stay away from sequencers
[17:21] <bazhang> rameshwor, from 3rd party sites? PPA's? or just the repos
[17:22] <FlyingSquirrel31> I was just reading shuttleworths post about the need to replace the old files and folders way of finding a file. http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/223
[17:22] <stratocaster> Im' looking for the deb package 2fc for ubuntu 64bits, anyone can tell me the link of the repository where i can download the deb?
[17:22] <th0r> twig11: yeah...sometimes folks have a hard time getting their head around that
[17:22] <FlyingSquirrel31> Is there some project that has a sort of daemon that monitors a folder, say /home/user/find and when a user browses to for example /home/user/find/dogs, it does a search, perhaps using an index and creates a folder full of links?
[17:22] <rameshwor> bazhang : repos.
[17:22] <bazhang> FlyingSquirrel31, plesae discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[17:22] <th0r> twig11: are you familiar with the permissions for files and directories?
[17:23] <bazhang> rameshwor, then yes there will be suitable versions for 9.04
[17:23] <mazda01> i have a 80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10) audio card and the volume is SO LOW using Pulseaudio in Jaunty. Does anyone have any suggestions on getting the sound louder?
[17:23] <brian_> my screen keeps flickering and its getting pretty  annoying
[17:23] <fccf> stratocaster what is 2fc?
[17:23] <vise> mcphail, Yeah.. got hydrogen too..
[17:23] <stratocaster> fccf: a library
[17:23] <twig11> th0r: Not really. I mean I think I understand how they work but I don't automatically know what permissions should be applied to what files, and I haven't memorized the commands involved.
[17:23] <frankenst91> hello i need help with wake on lan and a Bootloader
[17:24] <rameshwor> bazhang: what if i downloaded .deb packages for 3rd party ones.. i hope they are not  version specific..
[17:24] <th0r> twig11: ok...when you have /home/anthony copied let me know
[17:24] <FlyingSquirrel31> bazhang: sry
[17:24] <arkts1> Hello! trying to dual boot Ubuntu here with Vista. I made a seperate partition, K, for ubuntu, but i am having difficulty i nstalling ubuntu in that partition, can someone tell me how i can do this
[17:24] <bazhang> rameshwor, they are not supported so no idea (use at your own risk)
[17:24] <rameshwor> bazhang: ok..
[17:24] <frankenst91> i need a Bootloader that can send a magicpaket
[17:25] <mcphail> vise: i think there is some reasonably easy way to tweak rosegarden, but i'm not at my desktop at present
[17:25] <twig11> th0r: Since I've already got /home/anthony, will it just let me overwrite it?
[17:25] <icqn> if a web page in firefox for example contains an applet, witch plays sound, sound does not work anywhere else, how to turn sound in java applets off? or how to solve this issue?
[17:25] <th0r> twig11: yup
[17:25] <frankenst91> pleas help me its very importend
[17:26] <arkts1> do I have to re-partition K in order to install ubuntu?
[17:26] <twig11> th0r: merge or skip?
[17:26] <vise> mcphail, tbh, rosegarden has the most intuitive GUI i have ever seen.
[17:26] <th0r> twig11: if in the next day or two you run into problems running a program or doing something, make sure you mention the permissions issues.
[17:26] <th0r> twig11: merge
[17:26] <vise> mcphail, (among music sequencers)
[17:26] <twig11> merge all
[17:26] <neodragon> I am trying to disable desktop icons on Juanty 9.04 and I know the command is something like this:  gconftool -t bool -s /apps/nautilus/desktop/"something" , but I can't figure out the actual value that handle all desktop icons not just mounted external drive, etc.. any help would be great?
[17:26] <mcphail> vise: i found it quite unstable, but that was a couple of years ago. haven't used it seriously for some time
[17:27] <fccf> stratocaster: I am quite certain that you will not find any debs for that package... you will probably have to compile from source... unfortunatly
[17:27] <twig11> replace all
[17:28] <jrib> arkts1: note that in linux, your partitions won't be refereed to as C:, K:, etc.  When you ran the installer, were you not able to select the partition you wanted to install ubuntu onto?
[17:28] <frankenst91> can u say me wher i can get help with my problem?
[17:28] <vise> mcphail, I was sick of FL anyway.. This seems to be better..
[17:28] <jrib> frankenst91: here if it is ubuntu-related  (after asking a question)
[17:28] <arkts1> jrib, i was confused as to how to do that
[17:28] <fccf> !ask | frankenst91
[17:28] <mcphail> vise: enjoy!
[17:28] <jrib> arkts1: do you see a list of partitions to choose from?
[17:29] <arkts1> jrib: i went into the advanced section of installing, and i can see the partitions
[17:29] <adhil> hi there, does any one know a linux equivalent for apple iTunes in which i can connect to my iphone and also convert videos into .mov file?
[17:29] <jrib> arkts1: what's the issue?  You don't know which one is K?
[17:29] <frankenst91> i have ask but i think no one knows a [english for "Lösung"]
[17:29] <jrib> frankenst91: how is that "ubuntu-related"?
[17:29] <arkts1> jrib: i do, but do I have to repartition it in order for ubuntu to let me install it in it?
[17:29] <icqn> if a web page in firefox for example contains an applet, witch plays sound, sound does not work anywhere else, how to turn sound in java applets off? or how to solve this issue?
[17:30] <frankenst91> ka
[17:30] <twig11> th0r: okay I have anthony copied into /home
[17:30] <legend2440> neodragon: in terminal   gconf-editor  browse to   /apps/nautilus/desktop/   and check or uncheck boxes depending on what you want visible or not
[17:30] <frankenst91> it is a Ubuntu server?
[17:30] <mazda01> i have a 80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10) audio card and the volume is SO LOW using Pulseaudio in Jaunty. Does anyone have any suggestions on getting the sound louder?
[17:30] <jrib> arkts1: you need at least 2 partitions.  One for / and one for swap.  In the installer, I would just delete the partition K and tell the installer to use the freespace wisely
[17:30] <arkts1> jrib: if i click on the partition, all i can do is edit partition or delete it
[17:31] <mobi-sheep> mazda01: Try "sudo alsactl init"
[17:31] <th0r> twig11: ok...first thing is the chmod command 'chmod -R anthony:anthony /home/anthony'
[17:31] <mazda01> mobi-sheep, what does that do?
[17:31] <twig11> th0r: not chown?
[17:32] <th0r> twig11: yup...sorry...chown....good thing one of us is awake
[17:32] <palomer> is there an application that will print whatever I type on the keyboard?
[17:32] <ascheel> If I have a service starting up (vsftpd in this case) and NOT going through a superserver ((x)inetd), how do I stop it from starting anymore?
[17:32] <mobi-sheep> mazda01: init  tries  to initialize all devices to a default state. If device is
[17:32] <mobi-sheep>        not known, error code 99 is returned.
[17:32] <mazda01> mobi-sheep, i got this back:L E: core-util.c: Home directory /home/daniel not ours.
[17:32] <palomer> that works in the background
[17:32] <|Kael|> hi all. I  am trying to install linux on a usb stick to use it as a recovery system later. I'm stuck at installing grub on the stick, with the message here: http://paste.debian.net/41763/    Can someone help ?
[17:32] <ascheel> palomer, you want to create a keylogger?  Wrong channel, bud.
[17:32] <palomer> ascheel, nono
[17:32] <rogst> fccf: I followed the links about the Intel card and tried to upgrade to the preview of the 2.8 driver :D now I got full res on my external monitor, but glxgears didnt show any graphics.. well life aint perfect ;) thanks for the links
[17:32] <frankenst91> but thx for help
[17:33] <frankenst91> bye
[17:33] <palomer> ascheel, I'm making a demo video of my application, and I want the users to know what I'm typing
[17:33] <ascheel> palomer, command line app or GUI?
[17:33] <twig11> th0r: "cannot access /home/anthony/ .gvfs' : Permission denied"
[17:33] <arkts1> jrib:
[17:33] <arkts1> http://i26.tinypic.com/2luszdt.png
[17:33] <mobi-sheep> mazda01: You can "alsamixer" and set everything high.  Also, if you see 'm' -- It's muted.  Press m to unmute.
[17:33] <arkts1> i feel so stupid.. ive installed ubuntu before..
[17:33] <neodragon> legend2440: hey that was alot easier. Sorry I am so used to doing certain thing on the command line that I did not even think to look for a graphical tool for this in ubuntu, thanks
[17:33] <reginaldo> anyone know to burn pictures dvd for dvd player?
[17:33] <palomer> ascheel, whichever, but if its command line I'll stick it in an xterm
[17:33] <jrib> arkts1: oh, so you already have a swap setup?
[17:33] <mazda01> mobi-sheep, here's all of it. http://pastebin.com/f2e5bf93d
[17:33] <bucky> palomer: apt-cache show lkl
[17:33] <twig11> ;-(
[17:33] <arkts1> i think it is from a previous installation, yes
[17:34] <mazda01> mobi-sheep, I have set everything really high. I just get an annoying hissing noise.
[17:34] <jrib> arkts1: ok, then in "Use as", what are your options?
[17:34] <legend2440> neodragon: your welcome
[17:34] <mobi-sheep> mazda01: Err, that's hard to figure out why.
[17:34] <twig11> th0r: ?
[17:34] <palomer> bucky, but I changed my keymap to dvorak
[17:34] <th0r> twig11: no problem....get the big stuff out of the way and then address minor things one at a time
[17:34] <arkts1> jrib: let me list them
[17:34] <th0r> twig11: that shouldn't change anyway I think
[17:34] <icqn> if a web page in firefox for example contains an applet, witch plays sound, sound does not work anywhere else, how to turn sound in java applets off? or how to solve this issue?
[17:35] <twig11> th0r: so what's next?
[17:35] <palomer> and I want it to print the character in real time
[17:35] <fiver22> I just gave my freind the 9.04 desktop CD -the Live part works a treat -but when installing she get's flummoxed: it recognizes the windows partition but then asks her to det up a Linux partition (again, no prob.) -but then wants her to set up a linux swap -she get;s confused here -and I'm not there to help her -is there any advise I can give her over the phone to make that part easier?   -pm me if it's innapropriate
[17:35] <fiver22>  to discuss in here -thanks.
[17:35] <th0r> twig11: if you now do 'ls -l /home/anthony' you should see everything that is in your home directory...all owned now by you
[17:36] <twig11> th0r: looks right.
[17:36] <Klowny> hi guys
[17:36] <[T3]Chak> Anyone have any experience with webcam mics?  I've got a selection for Alsa & Pusleaudio for the camera, pusleaudio won't mute the mic, Alsa won't unmute it. the mic wont capute in sound recorder.  It shows sensitivity in ventirlo (wine) but i haven't found anyone on a server to confirm recieving voice from me yet
[17:36] <ascheel> Anybody able to tell me how to stop a service (vsftpd in this case) from starting on boot anyhow?
[17:36] <th0r> twig11: also note there are ten letters on the left side of the screen....like 'drwxrwxrwx'
[17:36] <mazda01> mobi-sheep, i know. I have been goggling for the last 14 hours. I can't believe that no one has the same audio card as me and it running pulseaudio
[17:36] <twig11> th0r: I don't see any
[17:37] <th0r> twig11: do you see ten little dashes?
[17:37] <microtech> Is it in /etc/init.d ascheel  ?
[17:37] <Pirate_Hunter> anyone here with knowledge of ISPConfig if so, could i get help, trying to figure out why I the browser interface doesnt work even knowing it installed correctly?
[17:37] <arkts1> sorry for he holdup jrib
[17:37] <arkts1> http://i26.tinypic.com/10gcv0w.png
[17:37] <microtech> Should be able to take it out of there
[17:37] <twig11> th0r: you mean in Terminal?
[17:37] <mobi-sheep> mazda01: You looked in Ubuntu community according to your hardware?
[17:37] <th0r> twig11: it might be a combination of the two...like -rw-r--r--
[17:37] <th0r> twig11: yeah...in terminal
[17:37] <th0r> twig11:  the ls -l printout
[17:37] <jrib> arkts1: ext3, format, mount point: /
[17:37] <twig11> th0r: yeah I get it now.
[17:38] <twig11> and yes I know what permissions settings look like
[17:38] <th0r> twig11: ok...those are the permissions...they will probably have to be adjusted.
[17:38] <Beems> when I type sudo dkms status it otputs this  http://pastebin.com/m5193589d does this mean there are two drivers installed?
[17:38] <th0r> twig11: all directories have to be 'execute'....or you won't be able to get into them. All 'normal
[17:38] <arkts1> jrib: ok
[17:38] <fccf> palomer: have you seen this... tells you how to use lkl with a keymap file
[17:39] <fccf> palomer http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120782
[17:39] <th0r> twig11: oops....all normal files should probably be '-rw-r--r--'
[17:39] <bucky> palomer: the FBI has a real good one for windows
[17:39] <twig11> th0r: and do I have to do that manually on every level?
[17:39] <odla> is there a pdf viewer for ubuntu that can annotate and highlight?
[17:39] <mobi-sheep> !pdf | odla
[17:39] <th0r> twig11: unfortunately...yup.
[17:39] <ascheel> pwd
[17:40] <twig11> :-(
[17:40] <ascheel> wrong window, sorry
[17:40] <sportman1280> Hello.  I am having trouble installing Subversion.  it says there is no installable candidate.  :(
[17:40] <odla> mobi-sheep: yes i know about pdf apps ... evince doesn't allow what i want ... so i am asking about other viewers
[17:40] <|Kael|> hi all. I  am trying to install linux on a usb stick to use it as a recovery system later. I'm stuck at installing grub on the stick, with the message here: http://paste.debian.net/41763/    Can someone help ?
[17:40] <odla> so i don't have to install them all and find it out they don't work
[17:40] <th0r> twig11: could probably write a script to do it,but then you would have to correct all the exceptions
[17:40] <ubuntunewbie> bazhang: oh .... now I know more , so if I had a window install on other partition , can I use the existing window or I need to install a new window to use it ?
[17:40] <twig11> th0r: okay, anthony is drwxr-xr-x is that right?
[17:40] <bazhang> odla, what about pdfedit
[17:40] <th0r> twig11: yes, most all directories should be that
[17:40] <mazda01> mobi-sheep, no, where is that. also, i just noticed that mplayer can't access pulseaudio. it returns this error: http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshoty.png
[17:41] <bazhang> ubuntunewbie, not sure there, perhaps #vbox can help
[17:41] <platius> mazda01; http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sound-solutions-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html  have you looked here?
[17:41] <pedro> hey all
[17:41] <bucky> sportman1280: Subversion with an upper case S ?
[17:41] <sportman1280> bucky: lower
[17:41] <palomer> how do I get lkl to display on screen?
[17:41] <ubuntunewbie> bazhang: I neverthough there's a channel for it thanks :)
[17:41] <dragonbyte> how do I tell ubuntu to stop trying to install a failed package?  I can't add/remove anything else without it trying to finish the install
[17:41] <dragonbyte> How do i tell it to stop trying to install that package?
[17:41] <minimec> minerva: --> see private message
[17:42] <th0r> dragonbyte: find the package in synaptic, right click on it and 'lock' it
[17:42] <sportman1280> bucky: apt-get policy shows that its on a ubuntu server. however its not showing any version you can install
[17:42] <arkts1> jrib: thanks a million! everything seems to be going on track now
[17:42] <twig11> th0r: gotta run for lunch. Thanks for your help. I'll work on the rest of this later.
[17:42] <pedro> im trying to setup a print sharing system, so i can with my linux pc share a printer for a couple other windows pc. i'm following a tutorial but it's outdaded and a lot of stuff don't match. can anyone help?
[17:42] <dragonbyte> th0r, is there a way to do this on the command line?
[17:42] <archeolog> hi my 9.04 yestaerday totally collapsed, no desktop envroment is able to start
[17:42] <bucky> sportman1280: it shows up when i apt-cache show subversion
[17:42] <twig11> th0r: can I import the other home folder before I create a user?
[17:42] <dragonbyte> th0r, everything I do is trying to make me run apt-get -f install to finish the borked install and I want apt to ignore that until I am done with other things
[17:42] <sportman1280> bucky: like i said. its a package. but i dont have any version installable :(
[17:43] <th0r> dragonbyte: sorry...it isn't right click...it is in the package menu
[17:43] <bucky> sportman1280: in jaunty?
[17:43] <th0r> twig11: not sure but you can try...worst case it erases the dir when you define the user and yhou haave to copy it again
[17:43] <sportman1280> bucky: yes
[17:43] <dragonbyte> th0r, no gui
[17:43] <Beems> does this mean that there are two different drivers installed  http://pastebin.com/m5193589d
[17:43] <twig11> th0r: okay
[17:43] <Nameless_au> is it wise to share /boot with another distro? is there a way to set this uo so there are no conflicts?
[17:43] <bucky> sportman1280: your repos aren't complete
[17:43] <dragonbyte> th0r, the package is not installed yet, it is trying to install and failing
[17:44] <th0r> dragonbyte: don't know how to do it from command line
[17:44] <Nameless_au> uo=up
[17:44] <[T3]Chak> Why the heck does ALSA perpetually mute my capture?
[17:44] <fiver22> request -easy to use podcast aggregator to capture mostly CBC/NBR -typt podcasts: I often miss my favourite radio shows -any suggestions?
[17:44] <sportman1280> buky: yet they update fine
[17:44] <Pirate_Hunter> anyone here with knowledge of ISPConfig if so, could i get help, trying to figure out why I the browser interface doesnt work even knowing it installed correctly?
[17:44] <sportman1280> bucky: http://paste.ubuntu.com/217101/
[17:44] <fiver22> (nbr=npr)
[17:44] <sportman1280> bucky: three different locations. all fail
[17:44] <stratocaster> i need of f2c.h file included in deb package of f2c library at 64bits in the repo of jauntry...anyone can help me?
[17:45] <lstarnes> stratocaster: it's likely in a -dev package for that library
[17:45] <Samus_Aran> how do I permanently stop logrotate on an Ubuntu system ?  I have tried everything I can think of, and log files are still rotated.  even symlinking /usr/sbin/logrotate to /bin/true somehow hasn't stopped it
[17:45] <sportman1280> bucky: http://paste.ubuntu.com/217102/
[17:46] <bucky> sportman1280: looks like you got a mirror down
[17:46] <mazda01> mobi-sheep, i am getting: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "lib32asound2-plugins". is that going to be a problem?
[17:46] <|Kael|> is there anyone familiar enough with grub? Installing it on an usb stick is driving me nuts as it insists on this:    grub-probe: error: Cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdf1.  Check your device.map.
[17:46] <sportman1280> bucky: all 3 mirrors ??
[17:46] <th0r> twig11: let me know when you are in business...need to take the dog for a walk and get lunch
[17:46] <sportman1280> bucky: i dont see how that would happen?
[17:47] <lstarnes> stratocaster: libf2c2-dev looks like it might have what you're looking for
[17:47] <dduck> is ext4 safe against electrical cuts?
[17:47] <stratocaster> lstarnes:thanks
[17:48] <vise> dduck, No fs is totally safe against power cuts..
[17:48] <lstarnes> stratocaster: for future reference, you can search for which package contains a given file using apt-file search filename
[17:48] <vise> dduck, Though ext4 might be betta
[17:48] <dduck> better than ext3?
[17:48] <lstarnes> stratocaster: but you do need to install apt-file and run apt-file update regularly for that to work
[17:48] <vise> dduck, yep
[17:49] <progre55> hi people! I have this little problem.. on my laptop, I was using an external display, and my laptop display was off. and suddenly the system crashed, and now on startup it says that "ubuntu is running on low graphics mode" and when I choose "run on low graphics this time" it start okay, the resolution is okay, but it doesnt detect the monitor, and after a restart again says it's running on low graphics. How can I
[17:49] <progre55> detect the laptop monitor? any help truely appreciated!
[17:49] <sbook> vise, have folks been using ext4 on production boxes?
[17:49] <th0r> dduck: don't know of anything that is safe against power interruptions...if it is a problem in your area a ups would be a wise investment
[17:49] <stratocaster> lstarnes: i don't find it in dev
[17:49] <vise> yes.. it's stable.. many ppl here probably use it
[17:49] <vise> sbook
[17:50] <sbook> thanks vise, was curious myself, thinking of converting my ext3 drives to ext4
[17:50] <vise> sbook, ppl here advised me that that is not advisable.. you should do a clean install...
[17:50] <dduck> yes true no filesystem would resist with thousends of cuts.....they usually don't happen here but yesterdsay i had 2, and i just wondered wihich filesystem would be more resistent
[17:50] <sportman1280> bucky: this is very annoying. i would like to get his resolved!
[17:50] <th0r> dduck: it isn
[17:51] <mazda01> i am getting an error when trying to play a dvd in mplayer. it can't access pulseaudio. i am in all the pulseaudio groups so I am not sure what's going on. : http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshoty.png
[17:51] <stratocaster> lstarnes: i don't find it in dev
[17:51] <sbook> vise: i should be able to rsync from ext3 to ext4, right?
[17:51] <dduck> th0r: what?
[17:51] <vise> dduck, To be safe, you might want to tweak the caching parameters of linux in general.. I don't know about linux, but sometimes i used to disable the write caching completely on my windows box.. making it fool proof...
[17:51] <th0r> dduck: it isn't the number of power interruptions...if you get one at the wrong moment as the drive is writing it could be catastrophic
[17:51] <lstarnes> stratocaster: I saw
[17:51] <lstarnes> stratocaster: what is the full path of the file you're looking for?
[17:52] <ssmithisme> i need help configuring alsa to use my soundblaster audigy 2
[17:52] <vise> sbook, No idea
[17:52] <dduck> th0r: also for the hardware itseld or only for the data/filesystem ?
[17:52] <stratocaster> lstarnes: ok...thanks. I'm looking for f2c.h into the package
[17:52] <th0r> twig11: we good?
[17:52] <\\`oot> Hi - has anyone ever seen an error after install where you get "Gave up waiting for root device."  [...] ALERT! /dev/mapper/wiley-root does not exist.  Dropping to shell!"   BUT when I type "exit" at the initramfs prompt the server boots fine???
[17:52] <palomer> are there any alternatives to lkl?
[17:52] <bucky> stratocaster: libf2c2-dev
[17:53] <stratocaster> buchy: i have open it...but i don't have find the file
[17:53] <bucky> stratocaster: f2c.h is in  libf2c2-dev
[17:54] <stratocaster> buchy: i don't see it
[17:54] <bucky> stratocaster: install libf2c2-dev with aptitude or what ever
[17:54] <stratocaster> buchy: how you have do to see it?
[17:54] <bucky> stratocaster: install libf2c2-dev with aptitude or what ever
[17:54] <progre55> hi people! I have this little problem.. on my laptop, I was using an external display, and my laptop display was off. and suddenly the system crashed, and now on startup it says that "ubuntu is running on low graphics mode" and when I choose "run on low graphics this time" it starts okay, the resolution is okay, but it doesnt detect the monitor, and after a restart again says it's running on low graphics. How can I
[17:54] <progre55> detect the laptop monitor? any help truely appreciated!
[17:54] <sportman1280> Hello.  I am having trouble installing Subversion.  it says there is no installable candidate.  :(
[17:55] <stratocaster> buchy: i need of the file for open it whit gedit
[17:55] <stratocaster> bucky: *with
[17:56] <legend2440> palomer: http://distrojockey.com/2005/ultimate-linux-keylogger-uberkey.190.linux
[17:56] <stratocaster> bucky: I'm not interesting to install it
[17:56] <bucky> sportman1280: i can't even ping http://mirror.lcsee.wvu.edu
[17:57] <arkts1> The following partitions are going to be formatted:
[17:57] <arkts1>  partition #5 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext3
[17:57] <arkts1>  partition #6 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as swap      thats the installation summary at the end, should it not say sda5 since that is the partition it is supposed to be, instead of sda alone
[17:57] <FloodBot1> arkts1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:57] <reginaldo> I got problem with pendrive , it do not mount more and I can't format , I don't have permision for it.
[17:57] <sivel27> hello all
[17:57] <stratocaster> buchy: news?
[17:57] <sportman1280> bucky: i just went there in firefox
[17:57] <jfernandez> is there a command to ouput to the terminal a specific line from a file?
[17:57] <jfernandez> like print line 1030 from this text file
[17:57] <jrib> arkts1: I can't remember.  It definitely should say that since it's confusing.  Do you have backups just in case?
[17:58] <jrib> jfernandez: you can use sed...
[17:58] <bucky> sportman1280: so you can't sudo apt-get install subversion ?
[17:58] <arkts1> >< no i don't. i think im just going to use wubi instead...
[17:59] <jrib> jfernandez: for example: sed -n '2p' FILE   will print line 2 of FILE
[17:59] <sivel27> i have no sound at all, latest kernel, and booted with livecd, sound worked there, but not in regular sydtem
[17:59] <jrib> arkts1: k, but you should have backups anyway even if you don't install ubuntu to a partition :)
[17:59] <sportman1280> bucky: nope.
[17:59] <sivel27> dont know where else to go/do., any help would be greatly appreciated, and i cant find anything on google about the issure
[17:59] <sivel27> issue
[17:59] <arkts1> i do, but the backups aren't recent >:]
[18:00] <firecrotch> progre55: Sounds like your xorg.conf is messed up, try moving it something like xorg.conf.old and restart X so that it does its autoconfiguration
[18:00] <bucky> sportman1280: there's something on google about enabling a repo.. you don't seem to have an official repo so you might have to do that
[18:00] <sportman1280> bucky: where on google. dont see it
[18:01] <bucky> sportman1280: i just saw it about an hour ago when i was searching for something else
[18:01] <ewt3522> !repositories
[18:01] <Klowny> stupid frostwire lol
[18:01] <sportman1280> bucky: the official repo has the same problems
[18:02] <irocksu> hi
[18:02] <Klowny> 'can not use the specified folder for saving files'
[18:02] <Klowny> oh joy
[18:02] <Klowny> hi irocksu
[18:02] <bucky> sportman1280: this is a user error
[18:02] <sportman1280> bucky: wheres the error then
[18:02] <bucky> sportman1280: between you and your keyboard
[18:02] <irocksu> does someone know where to get ati drivers for a thinkpad w500? on the ati page there is no firegl V5700
[18:02] <sportman1280> bucky: ?
[18:03] <bucky> !repositories | sportman1280
[18:03] <linduxed> what is a reasonable size of /boot?
[18:03] <Fallenou> size of sevral kernel + initrd
[18:03] <sportman1280> bucky: please stop telling me about the repos im perfectly aware.  I have tried them. same result.
[18:03] <linduxed> Fallenou: which is....
[18:03] <_Apple_> any one know of any good IRC Clients for BlackBerry?
[18:03] <arkts1> jrib: http://i28.tinypic.com/2ujo39k.png
[18:03] <Fallenou> i usually put 1 Go to be sure to be ok
[18:04] <thiebaude> sportman1280: System>Administration>Software Sources
[18:04] <Fallenou> i guess 512 Mo would suffice
[18:04] <linduxed> Fallenou: !!!
[18:04] <jrib> arkts1: even if it said sda5 and sda6 I would advise you not to proceed without backups
[18:04] <linduxed> Fallenou: all ive read goes along the lines of 50-200