[21:13] <LjL> !automatix | stray77
[21:13] <ubotu> stray77: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[21:13] <meeper> when you first share a folder (samba) through the Shared Folders admin panel what is the login/pass it expects?
[21:13] <aclar1> ok ill check that out
[21:13] <Pulshion> Does anybody know how to get Desktop Effects/Compiz to work on Feisty with ATI????
[21:13] <Jimdb> i can't seem to agree that anything is better than amarok for playing mp3s
[21:13] <LjL> !automatix | aclar1
[21:13] <ubotu> aclar1: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[21:13] <aclar1> let me check the packages for that....
[21:13] <halfprice5> could someone help me with a problem with gusty?
[21:13] <Bax> anybody know how I can get to the gaming chat room for ubuntu?
[21:13] <ColonelPanic45> beli: are you looking for power savings or just cpu speed?
[21:14] <ColonelPanic45> beli: because you could look at powertop
[21:14] <frijolie> what's the best filesystem to share between windows and linux? nTFS or ext3?
[21:14] <Dr_willis> Bax,  whats it called? /join #channelname  :) if ya know its name
[21:14] <beli> ColonelPanic45: i will try that, thanks
[21:14] <tck> will they be making a proper gobuntu.org site instead of pointing to ubuntu.org ?
[21:14] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: FAT32 is, AFAIK, the only 'universal' filesystem right now
[21:14] <Dr_willis> frijolie,  linux  can read/wite ntfs wth the ntfs-3g stuff/ windows can read/write ext3 with some ifs-drivers.org stuff. :)
[21:14] <spot_> Hi! Can someone help me? Im searching for at program for people that have problems reading for Ubunutu, is that available?
[21:14] <kjp> is there a way to clone an ubuntu installation to a newer, larger hard drive?
[21:14] <neofax> Can anyone help me with SPDIF out on a ICE1724 card?
[21:14] <Bax> I don't know Dr_willis, i just need a room that's talking about ubuntu and gaming
[21:14] <Dr_willis> frijolie,  it depends on your needs.
[21:14] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: most modern linux distros can read/write ntfs..
[21:14] <hasan> interneten istediklerimi basamiyorum ama nedenini cözemiyorum
[21:14] <beli> ColonelPanic45: is there a software for that in the repository?
[21:14] <Savas_THY> will gutsy be released tonight?
[21:15] <frijolie> so it really doesn't matter
[21:15] <Dr_willis> Bax,  i know of no such room.  check the !games factoids?
[21:15] <Dr_willis> !games
[21:15] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[21:15] <frijolie> I plan on using it on an external USB HDD to move between computers
[21:15] <frijolie> mostly used to back up music, pictures, and documents...
[21:15] <frijolie> some contents from the /home directory
[21:15] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: I format all of my external drives as FAT32 so I can access them under win, mac, linux
[21:15] <Bax> but no chatrooms regarding games?
[21:15] <Dr_willis> frijolie,  use vfat then
[21:15] <Odd-rationale> frijlie: If you use fat32, you have a file limit of 4 GB. Beware.
[21:15] <Kworth22> erUSUL, no it does not work
[21:16] <SirBob1701> can i remove compiz fusion will gutsy still work?
[21:16] <frijolie> ColonelPanic45: FAT32, didn't think about that
[21:16] <erUSUL> Kworth22: :( i'm out of ideas...
[21:16] <Dr_willis> SirBob1701,  i had issues doingm that
[21:16] <frijolie> Dr_willis: never heard of vfat
[21:16] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: however long filepaths will crap on you, and windows doesn't like creating large partions (over 32GB), but linux will.
[21:16] <SirBob1701> hmm
[21:16] <Dr_willis> vfat = the linux name for the windows fat filessytems
[21:16] <SirBob1701> what program do you guys use for ttys?
[21:16] <SirBob1701> gutsy made me remove fbgetty
[21:17] <aclar1> trying audacious now
[21:17] <PurpZeY> I am trying to set a global key command for a terminal event...I saw a wiki that said to set it in gconf under metacity, but I am using compiz-fusion, should I still set it under metacity?
[21:17] <frijolie> Some of my pictures have long filenames
[21:17] <frijolie> 8+ characters
[21:17] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: oh, 8+ is fine, I think that the limit might be like 128chars in the path (or something)
[21:17] <Lockal> lockal@lockal:~> date
[21:17] <Lockal> Чтв Окт 18 00:17:36 MSD 2007
[21:17] <srmerlins> Having a problem with mounting a recognizeable virtual iso in vmware. mount loop -o in /media/iso/ doesn seem to work, any solution?
[21:18] <aclar1> works like a charm, thanks riotkittie
[21:18] <foka> hi all
[21:18] <frijolie> ColonelPanic45: ah..so go with FAT32? does it matter which OS does the formatting?
[21:18] <queyas> hello
[21:18] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat32#Long_file_names
[21:18] <[g2]> anyone know when I can dist-upgrade to Gutsy ?
[21:18] <pfdutot> hello everyone. Just updated to gutsy, and had to manually apt-get install linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-386 to get ipw3945 working. Not a big deal for me, but might be unsettling to normal users
[21:18] <Zups> I need help with removing some custom packages from update manager... how do I stop ubuntu update manager from asking me to update with distro .debs?
[21:18] <Dr_willis> frijolie,  set it up with Linux. windows wont let you make a large fat32 filessytem
[21:18] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: looks like 255 chars max in the filename
[21:18] <kraut> when i export my ~ via nfs-kernel-server, why don't i see the data of a partiton mounted in the exported ~ under ~/mnt from a remote-client?
[21:18] <archie1> i ran swith user and now my mouse doesnt work, why did that happen and how can i fix it?
[21:18] <kraut> for example: /dev/mapper/mobiledisk on /home/kraut/mnt/mobiledisk type ext3 (rw)
[21:18] <archie1> *switch
[21:19] <Intangir> is there an ubuntu developer channel? or a launchpad channel? someone put me on the ubuntu development bug tracking mailing list
[21:19] <frijolie> Dr_willis: you just use fdisk right? Sorry, never formatted anything with Linux before
[21:19] <Intangir> and im getting like 100 mails a day
[21:19] <Odd-rationale> frijolie: No it does not matter which OS. But just be aware that fat32 has a file size limit of 4gb
[21:19] <Zups> I tried /etc/apt/preferences, but that one seams to have become obsulete... who knows why...
[21:19] <queyas> i'm looking for someone who was customizing livecd
[21:19] <skiff> anyone has a good link how to make RESTRICTED DRIVERS work for ATI ?
[21:19] <Dr_willis> frijolie,  use gparted
[21:19] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: fdisk will work;  try GParted if you're running a modern distro
[21:19] <Dr_willis> frijolie,  or fdisk. :)
[21:19] <Dr_willis> !ati
[21:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:19] <frijolie> Yeah I'm running Gutsy right now
[21:19] <Whitor> Odd-rationale: fat32 doesn't have a size limit of 4gb
[21:20] <Zina> #ubuntu-fr
[21:20] <Dr_willis> skiff,  i normally install the restricted-manager package and let it do the work
[21:20] <skiff> Dr_willis, I have installed it
[21:20] <Weaver> So is Ubuntu 7.10 supposed to be released at midnight tonight or what?
[21:20] <dromer> erUSUL: ok, I'm booted now (put the disk on the other IDE-cable), and I can find the disk it dmesg, but no idea how and where I can mount is .. it's not recognized in df or when mounting /dev/hdb1
[21:20] <skiff> Dr_willis, it didnt do the proper work though
[21:20] <srmerlins> For Ati and nvidia driver, get Envy.
[21:20] <Zina> je veut allez sur fr
[21:20] <frijolie> Dr_willis: is GParted a distro or an application?
[21:20] <PurpZeY> !fr
[21:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[21:20] <Odd-rationale> Whitor: OK sorry, my bad. I thought I read that somewhere...
[21:21] <Dr_willis> frijolie,  its on the cd/install/livecd :)
[21:21] <archie1> how can i reset my mouse??
[21:21] <queyas> frijolie, gparted is application
[21:21] <archie1> its not responding
[21:21] <Whitor> Odd-rationale: it has a limitation... but its a lot larger than 4gb ... .fat16 has the 4gb limit
[21:21] <Dr_willis> frijolie,  theres also a gparted-livecd
[21:21] <Kworth22> l
[21:21] <Kworth22> erUSUL, no it does not work... :(
[21:21] <bobgill> Hello, I have one Feisty and one XP box on my home network using Linksys WRT54GS... my aim is to be able to access my Feisty box from anywhere outside... ie., go to bobgill.mysite.com and be able to transfer/move/downlaod/delete/copy files etc. to my box from anywhere... but my network has <IP_ADDRESS> IP, how can I do this? (I've set up the no-ip.com linux client but geting a domain to redirect to my home network
[21:21] <bobgill> , I'm lost on)
[21:21] <Weaver> So will the Final Release of Ubuntu 7.10 be at midnight tonight or just some undetermined time tomorrow???
[21:22] <tritium> Weaver: not at midnight
[21:22] <Kworth22> erUSUL, ping always returns: ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[21:22] <ColonelPanic45> Whitor: are you sure about that limit?  The Wikipedia page lists the limit as 4GiB http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat32
[21:22] <frijolie> Dr_willis: so boot to the liveCD and format it that way? I'd be afraid that I'd repartition my data or something
[21:22] <Weaver> tritium: k thx
[21:22] <frijolie> Dr_willis: is it pretty straightforward?
[21:22] <erUSUL> dromer: if it appeared in dmesg you should be able to read there the /dev/ node it was attached to
[21:22] <iami> Hi yall
[21:22] <leg1> ompaul?
[21:22] <Kworth22> erUSUL, markus@markus-laptop:~$ sudo ifdown ppp0
[21:22] <Kworth22> /usr/bin/poff: I could not find a pppd process for provider 'ppp0'. None stopped.
[21:22] <skiff> Dr_willis, in restricted drivers manager you cant do much, you just select ENABLED for the driver, and it supposedly should find the proper one and work, wasnt the case with me however...
[21:22] <srmerlins> Anyone know how to make vmware recognize an iso mounted with the command mount loop -o?
[21:22] <erUSUL> Kworth22: i have seen those msgs due t a missconfigured firewall
[21:22] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: if you're formatting an external usb drive (say), just plug it in, fire up GParted, and partition just that one drive.  Double-check to make sure you're formatting the _external_ drive :-)
[21:23] <iami> What are some realistic ways of accessing data on a 2nd HD (running a crashed linux system) from a Windows drive that I
[21:23] <iami> am currently using
[21:23] <Kworth22> erUSUL okay how to shut down the freaking iptables ?
[21:23] <dromer> erUSUL: hmm, can't see it sorry ..
[21:23] <Zups> anyone able to help please? why is /etc/apt/preferences obolete?!?
[21:23] <Bax> \dromer whisper test
[21:23] <Bax> nope, can't do it
[21:23] <erUSUL> dromer: can you post the dmesg in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[21:23] <tritium> Kworth22: first, you must identify which ones are freaking and which ones are not
[21:23] <frijolie> ColonelPanic45: how do you know which is the external drive? hda, hdb, sda, sdb. Isn't that what Linux calls them?
[21:23] <Dr_willis> skiff,  a lot depends on your exact video card.
[21:24] <iami> Can someone help me with acccesssing data on a crashed Hard drive>
[21:24] <Kworth22> tritium, just shut down then i figure out if it is the problem at alll :)
[21:24] <Whitor> ColonelPanic45: Yes, I'm certain. Per the link you posted : 127.53 gigabytes is the fat32 limit
[21:24] <tritium> :)
[21:24] <skiff> Dr_willis, I have ATI 1950pro
[21:24] <tulu> is there a way I can video chat with my girlfriend if she uses ichat and I'm on an ubuntu box?
[21:25] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: I usually look at the size of the drives as well as the existing partitions to determine which one is the external and which is external
[21:25] <tritium> tulu: yes, with gaim
[21:25] <_Roman> Hello, I have a Dell 8400 which has 2 sound cards (an integrated one and an SB Audoligy).  Sound was working fine in fiesty, but now that I have upgraded to Gutsy, I have no sound.  Can anyone help
[21:25] <srmerlins> works with amsn too
[21:25] <tulu> sweet! Thanks, so I just install gaim?
[21:25] <Kworth22> erUSUL: how do I disable all the iptables stuff?
[21:25] <tritium> tulu: it's already installed
[21:25] <tulu> oh.... haha so it is
[21:25] <frijolie> ColonelPanic45: yeah, that may work. My external drive is 320GB. Should I do it as all one large partition?
[21:25] <srmerlins> update gaim
[21:26] <iami> HEY DAWGS!
[21:26] <dromer> erUSUL: what is an easy way to copy the entire dmesg to the pastebin? because it's rather large to copy/paste from the shell ..
[21:26] <ColonelPanic45> Whitor:  Where are you seeing that number?  In the table at the top of the page it says "Max file size" and the entry for FAT32 is "4 GiB - 1 byte"
[21:26] <iami> How can I access data from Ubuntu
[21:26] <Whitor> ColonelPanic45: under the fat32 section
[21:26] <ColonelPanic45> Whitor: I think you're looking at the number for maximum _partition_ size
[21:26] <ColonelPanic45> which is different
[21:26] <iami> On a Windows install
[21:26] <srmerlins> question. whats the difference between crossover/wine? any graphical improvement in crossover?
[21:26] <gnr> anyone got a good music player for linux? all the recommended ones are pure shite tbh... :(
[21:27] <iami> gnr: songbird
[21:27] <tulu> is there a way i can test the camera in gaim?
[21:27] <_Roman> gnr: amarok
[21:27] <awalton__> gnr: what kind of music player do you use on other platforms
[21:27] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: the max partition size is 8TiB (much bigger than 320GB)
[21:27] <aclar1> quick question, is the a keyboard shortcut (like alt tab) to switch between workspaces?
[21:27] <awalton__> and srmerlins: crossover and cegeda are commercial forks of wine
[21:27] <_Roman> aclar1:  ctl + shift +  left and right
[21:27] <awalton__> aclar1 ctrl+alt+left/right
[21:28] <awalton__> depending on if you use compiz or metacity.
[21:28] <_Roman> sorry, awalton__: is correct
[21:28] <aclar1> ahh beautiful
[21:28] <aclar1> thanks
[21:28] <erUSUL> dromer: i use xclip 'dmesg | xclip' then middle button to paste
[21:28] <srmerlins> thnx awalton, trying to sort em out, since wine is poor on graphical display.
[21:28] <dromer> oh thnx :)
[21:28] <aclar1> finally feel like im getting the hang of this
[21:28] <erUSUL> dromer: you may have to install it first
[21:28] <Bax> how do I gain root access?
[21:28] <aclar1> not a guru, but moving up from newb to beginner
[21:28] <aclar1> lol
[21:28] <erUSUL> !root > Bax
[21:28] <orbstra> hey I am trying to run ushare on Ubuntu Server (Latest), and every time I try to download it through a repository I added for apt-get, I am told that the libc6 is a dependency and it does not work.. I have libc6 installed completly, and update to the latest version, does anyone know what is wrong
[21:28] <DaMi3n> are there any non-dell brands that ship laptops with ubuntu?
[21:28] <ColonelPanic45> fijolie: You could consider partitioning it with, say everything but 80GB -- that way you could partition that space as ext3 if you needed to transfer a huge file or something
[21:29] <Bax> in the command terminal?
[21:29] <Odd-rationale> Thank you ColonelPanic45. I have been vindicated.
[21:29] <erUSUL> DaMi3n: system76
[21:29] <awalton__> DaMi3n: system76
[21:29] <srmerlins> Bax type sudo -i
[21:29] <dromer> erUSUL: uhuh, thanx alot, sounds like a handy prog :)
[21:29] <awalton__> erUSUL jynx
[21:29] <erUSUL> Bax: use sudo
[21:29] <awalton__> ;)
[21:29] <erUSUL> awalton__: XD
[21:29] <aclar1> thanks everyone...gotta take off, but i will be sure to come back if i need some more help
[21:29] <Bax> YEAH! thanks!
[21:29] <aguitel> anyone use chipset REALTEK rlt8180 ?
[21:29] <DaMi3n> awalton__, erUSUL: do they ship worldwide?
[21:29] <aguitel> !gutsy
[21:29] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[21:29] <srmerlins> yw bax
[21:29] <erUSUL> Kworth22: 'sudo iptables --flush'
[21:29] <Kworth22>  how do I disable all the iptables stuff?
[21:29] <erUSUL> DaMi3n: dunno
[21:29] <queyas> i'm using uck for customizing my livecd. I've changed some things with synaptic, but is there a way to change default apperance - theme, fonts etc?
[21:30] <dromer> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40966/  << the new disk is the SAMSUNG one
[21:30] <Bax> hopefully I won't break my comp
[21:30] <Kworth22> l
[21:30] <watchme> WTF?
[21:30] <Bax> now that I'm in the root, how do I allow open access to another drive on my partitioned disk?
[21:31] <ColonelPanic45> question about dual-booting: is there any way to get GRUB to be the bootloader instead of Windows?  All of the instructions I've seen put GRUB as a slave to Windows' bootloader
[21:31] <Vlet> Kworth22: All it takes is a simple google search for "disable iptables", and the first result is your answer
[21:31] <watchme> ich kann den Buchstaben nicht mehr Tippen der zwischen p und r kommt
[21:31] <orbstra> does anyone have any help for me? I just need to find out why I cannot install uShare, I have found that I am having a problem with a libc6 dependency.. libc6 is already installed, and at its latest version... please?
[21:31] <watchme> *rofl*
[21:31] <ColonelPanic45> and it sounds like Windows just doesn't want to come to the party and play nicely with GRUB
[21:31] <Scorp``on> spricht hier irgendwer deutsch und kann mir bei nem raid problem helfen ?
[21:31] <erUSUL> dromer: it seems /dev/sdb...
[21:32] <bobgill> Can someone help me set up my box so I can access it from anywhere.. I'm on a network, what do I do? I want to go to bobgill.mysite.com and be able to access my box... how do I do this?
[21:32] <Cyber_Stalker> ColonelPanic45, are you sure windows got the invite? last time i check we took them off the buddy list
[21:32] <dromer> hmmmw weird .. that's only for usb-devices isn't it ?
[21:32] <DaMi3n> awalton__, erUSUL: they are costlier than dell T_T
[21:32] <gnr> awaiton__ i use winamp, but new skins, songbird didn;t work for me, but for some reason it started working now, odd....
[21:32] <Vlet> bobgill: here's one way: http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/16/howto-remote-desktop-with-vnc-in-ubuntu-edgy-gnu-linux/
[21:33] <gnr> whats the best torrent software for linux?
[21:33] <awalton__> gnr: try audacious, it's winamp for linux.
[21:33] <MrAustin1337> Hey all.  I have a DQ35JO Motherboard with the 82Q35 Express Video Chipset and I can't get 3d acceleration to the point that when I run glxinfo X crashes.  Any ideas?
[21:33] <stray77> bobgill, forward port 5900 to your ubuntu boxes ip and use vnc
[21:33] <Dr_willis> !best
[21:33] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[21:33] <erUSUL> dromer: not anymore (they are for scsi disks and now even pata is seen by linux as a scsi disk)
[21:33] <Dr_willis> gnr,  depends on your needs. I use Ktorrent mainly.
[21:33] <erUSUL> !uuid > dromer
[21:33] <dromer> erUSUL: hmm, when I mount /dev/sdb1 the disk seems empty ..
[21:33] <srmerlins> Colonel in which order did u install each OS?
[21:33] <orbstra> anyone?
[21:33] <frijolie> gnr: I use Deluge
[21:33] <orbstra> I think it's a simple problem
[21:33] <orbstra> very simple
[21:33] <gnr> ktorrent is like utorrent?
[21:34] <awalton__> and gnr: ktorrent, rtorrent, deluge and transmission
[21:34] <Dr_willis> gnr,  similer.
[21:34] <gnr> i used utorrent on windows
[21:34] <RDMutt> YAY! NEW RELEASE! question; when can i download a .torrent I want to do as much as I can and seed.
[21:34] <Dr_willis> then again most torrent clients are similer. :)
[21:34] <tushyd> my fingerprint reader (Upek TCS4BA) is not showing up in lsusb, can anyone help?
[21:34] <Scorp``on> spricht hier irgendwer deutsch und kann mir bei nem raid problem helfen ?
[21:34] <gnr> now, my final question....
[21:34] <gnr> what should i have on my pancakes?
[21:34] <bobgill> stray77: how do I do that ?
[21:34] <awalton__> light maple and brown sugar.
[21:34] <awalton__> no butter.
[21:34] <gnr> no maple :(
[21:35] <dromer> erUSUL: /dev/sdb1             9.0G  2.2G  6.5G  25% /media/movies  << that's not right, it's supposed to be 250gb ..
[21:35] <gnr> i was thinking lemon and honey
[21:35] <Raff7> oh shit XD 1325 people
[21:35] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | Raff7
[21:35] <ubotu> Raff7: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[21:35] <orbstra> i know someone here can help me in abot 30 seconds, anyone?
[21:35] <ColonelPanic45> srmerlins: well I blew away WindowsXP, partitioned the drive up, and am reinstalling XP first
[21:35] <awalton__> !ask
[21:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:35] <Ward1983> orbstra, if you don't ask the question how cna we answer???
[21:36] <Kworth22> erUSUL: I think the firewall really was the problem -> do you know a good manual for iptables to reconfigure it right?
[21:36] <tushyd> my fingerprint reader (Upek TCS4BA) is not showing up in lsusb, can anyone help?
[21:36] <Dr_willis> gnr,  cooked apples are the best. :)
[21:36] <Jakobsen> I've got a problem. Network Manager crashes, when I try to connect to a VPN with vpnc-network-manager..
[21:36] <gnr> oooer
[21:36] <Zups> why oh why, has /etc/apt/preferences been disabled in ubuntu 7.10?!?, can someone please inform me on how to disable update manager...
[21:36] <Kworth22> dpml: still there?
[21:36] <ColonelPanic45> srmerlins: it sounds like Windows _has_ to occupy space on the MBR (but I'm not certain about that)
[21:36] <orbstra> I am trying to install uShare, I added the repository, and when I try to install it through apt-get, I am told that I am having problems with my libc6 dependency.. Libc6 is up to date as far as I can tell.. I can paste bin the exact error if anyone is willing to look
[21:36] <djm62> Jakobsen: when does it crash?
[21:36] <arno-t> s
[21:36] <erUSUL> Kworth22: i do not use (and not recommend) iptables directly i use frontends such as shorewall (config files)
[21:37] <Vlet> Zups: you mean how to disable auto-updating?
[21:37] <Jakobsen> djm62: right after I type the password
[21:37] <tushyd> any help with my fingerprint reader???
[21:37] <Zups> Vlet: how to remove packages from auto-update, I have my own packages, and really pissed off about update managers popups about update...
[21:37] <administrator> anyone if gutsy will have an automatic feature to install hardware it detects?
[21:38] <djm62> Jakobsen: System->Administration->System Log, and look at "messages"
[21:38] <BarryToeman> erUSUL: why don't you recommend iptables?
[21:38] <bobgill> How do I forward port 5900 to my ubuntu box IP ??
[21:38] <djm62> Jakobsen: any lines about pppd?
[21:38] <RDMutt> bobgill; you'd use your router
[21:38] <erUSUL> BarryToeman: to complex to get it 100% right imho
[21:38] <srmerlins> Colonel try add up linux 1st OS in installation. make sure u format a second drive or partition for xp as 2nd install.
[21:38] <Vlet> administrator: doesn't ubuntu do that already?
[21:38] <Kworth22> erUSUL: okay - i will look for shorewall in the package manager
[21:38] <Kworth22> erUSUL: thanks a lot for your help
[21:38] <frijolie> ColonelPanic45: Just erased and reformatted HDD to FAT32. However, It partitioned it as 298GB instead of 320GB
[21:38] <markvandenborre> deskbar-applet is constantly crashing on me
[21:39] <erUSUL> Kworth22: no problem
[21:39] <Jakobsen> djm62: nothing..
[21:39] <markvandenborre> any ideas on how to diagnose the problem?
[21:39] <dromer> erUSUL: sorry to bother you more, I see you are busy .. but uhm, the pc seeing the disk as only 6gb .. that's not right huh ..
[21:39] <Kworth22> m.
[21:39] <BarryToeman> erUSUL: it sure is.  i'm working on it right now.
[21:39] <orbstra> any ideas anyone?
[21:39] <markvandenborre> how can fetch the output of this thing,
[21:39] <dromer> 9gb*
[21:39] <administrator> vlet: no
[21:39] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: that's probably a Gibibyte/ Gigabyte difference
[21:39] <stray77> bobgill, go to http://portforward.com/ and pick your router
[21:39] <administrator> vlet: not that i know of
[21:39] <djm62> Jakobsen: did it use to work?
[21:39] <preaction> frijolie, that's accurate: formatted volume is always less than total capacity. some space is reserved and some space is used by the file system
[21:39] <erUSUL> dromer: use gparted or a tool like that to take a look at the disks
[21:39] <markvandenborre> or rather, how can I fetch the stderr from this applet?
[21:40] <frijolie> ColonelPanic45: but a 20GB difference?
[21:40] <srmerlins> And yeah colonel Ive been working on these installs for last 3 weeks, got my heads up on the 10.4.6 yet. stuck on alternate APCI error..*sigh*
[21:40] <Jakobsen> djm62: No, it's a fresh install. It have never worked
[21:40] <Vlet> administrator: You mean you had to manually install drivers for each piece of hardware on your system, and tell the system what each of those pieces of hardware was?
[21:40] <tushyd> finger print reader not showing up in lsusb, help please
[21:40] <djm62> Jakobsen: have you done the same thing on another ubuntu machine?
[21:41] <administrator> vlet: yes
[21:41] <zengen> I just read about apps for windows and mac that shade out everything on your screen except your current window.  Is there anything like that for linux?
[21:41] <erUSUL> dromer: partitions, free space, etc
[21:41] <administrator> vlet: well im having issues with the wifi card
[21:41] <Jakobsen> djm62: yes, and I did it the exact same way..
[21:41] <Vlet> administrator: are you running on hardware you designed yourself?
[21:41] <Vlet> administrator: oh, so you're having trouble with _A_ piece of hardware
[21:41] <bobgill> stray77: ok I found my router, now it asks me for what application... would I choose SSH? I want to move/download/upload/delete/copy files to and from my box from anywhere, so...
[21:41] <Vlet> administrator: what card?
[21:41] <administrator> vlet: yes
[21:42] <administrator> vlet: netgear WG311
[21:42] <ColonelPanic45> fijolie: the numbers actually work out about right
[21:42] <djm62> Jakobsen: you know you can save VPN settings to a file? you might want to do that on your working machine and load them on the non working one to double check you have exactly the right settings
[21:42] <Jakobsen> djm62: it's *.pcf files from a Cisco VPN Client I am using..
[21:42] <djm62> Jakobsen: although your problem seems a little odd to me - after you type in the password, nm-applet just disappears?
[21:43] <Vibys> should ctrl + alt + left/right show the cube and go to the next desktop?
[21:43] <Vlet> administrator: have you tried this?... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3
[21:43] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: 298 * 1024 *1024*1024 = 319,975,063,552
[21:43] <Jakobsen> djm62: Yes, I type the password, press OK, and then it just crashes and disappears
[21:43] <dromer> erUSUL: weird, gparted sees the disk just fine, it's df that thinks it's only 9 gb .. but when I browse to the mountpoint it's just empty ..
[21:43] <djm62> Jakobsen: no waiting around with the weird hovering gold coin?
[21:43] <administrator> vlet: yes i have and i still have issues
[21:43] <quick_nick> is anyone having problems with extremly large fonts on the startup page and all windows?
[21:44] <Jakobsen> djm62: I do not see any hovering gold coin :(
[21:44] <Bax> I'm a root user now, any body know how I can grant access to a partitioned drive for anyone, instead of just the root user
[21:44] <djm62> Jakobsen: can you try NOT using the .pcf file but entering the data manually into a profile?
[21:45] <Vlet> administrator: Well, you'll have to present us with a more specific question about what's not working for you
[21:45] <Jakobsen> djm62: yes, if you can tell me how to get my Network Manager applet back without restarting Gnome..
[21:45] <administrator> vlet: one second
[21:45] <administrator> vlet: http://pastebin.com/m4b8a7a45
[21:45] <erUSUL> dromer: maybe something has gon stray with the disk...?
[21:46] <thade> hello, im just trying to get a md5sum for the ubuntu-7.10-rc-alternate iso, but it seems like the files have vanished from the download servers. Is it just me?
[21:46] <administrator> vlet: this is what im getting when i check
[21:46] <djm62> Jakobsen: nm-applet in terminal might be a good idea
[21:46] <dromer> erUSUL: hmm, I used it a few days ago in a different pc ..
[21:46] <ElReNGo73> hi
[21:46] <ElReNGo73> Anyone knows if tomorrow comes Kubuntu too
[21:46] <djm62> Jakobsen: especially if it spits out any useful information to the terminal next time it dies
[21:46] <dromer> erUSUL: 'comes kubuntu' what?
[21:46] <erUSUL> dromer: what type of filesystem the partition holds?
[21:46] <dromer> ElReNGo73: *
[21:47] <dromer> erUSUL: ext3
[21:47]  * neohaker looks around :O
[21:47] <Vlet> administrator: Well, it would appear that you may not be using the right windows driver... make sure you have the right version, and that you've extracted the contents of whatever archive it is in, and locate the inf for it
[21:47] <kena123> thade: it's still on some of the mirrors. lemmie go find it for you
[21:47] <thade> cool thanks kenal
[21:47] <akorn> Hey, anybody know how to make a panel auto-hide completely, and not leave that 1 or 2 mm space popping out?
[21:47] <erUSUL> dromer: you can use fsck (e2fsck) to check the filesystem...
[21:48] <kena123> 25207b70c3757d0a797205fae7efc31f *ubuntu-7.10-rc-alternate-amd64.iso
[21:48] <kena123> ebce1a0977e461c6c6ee83a65010cd03 *ubuntu-7.10-rc-alternate-i386.iso
[21:48] <kena123> thus saith http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/7.10/
[21:48] <dellph> join #ubuntu-release-party
[21:48] <Kworth22> erUSUL: is shorewall a gui?
[21:48] <thade> thanks a lot!
[21:48] <Jakobsen> djm62: well, nothing happens when I type nm-applet, it looks like the terminal is waiting for something, but no network manager.... :/
[21:48] <lwizardl> hi
[21:48] <kena123> hi!
[21:48] <lwizardl> how do i get a hfs+ partition to mount on 7.04?
[21:49] <erUSUL> Kworth22: nope is config file driven if you want gui use firestarter
[21:49] <erUSUL> ubotu tell Kworth22 about firestarter | Kworth22 see priv msg from ubotu
[21:50] <dromer> erUSUL: ok, got some errors .. let fsck fix it ?
[21:50] <djm62> Jakobsen: this sounds weird and not healthy.  what does nm-tool say?
[21:50] <Jakobsen> djm62: "get_nm_state(): didn't get a reply from NetworkManager."
[21:51] <Jakobsen> djm62: and then "get_nm_state(): didn't get a reply from NetworkManager."
[21:51] <erUSUL> dromer: surelly fsck knows more than me on how to repair ext3 filesystems ...
[21:51] <dromer> haha
[21:51] <Jakobsen> djm62: and then "NetworkManager appears not to be running (could not get its state)."
[21:51] <akorn> anybody here know how to make a panel fully auto-hide?
[21:51] <djm62> OK, so sudo NetworkManager
[21:51] <djm62> and then nm-applet
[21:51] <eistee> de
[21:51] <NinjaSouljah> I am trying to run VMware with ubuntu, is there any way to get my windows share folder working within the VMware software
[21:52] <dromer> erUSUL: ok, I just lost all my data ..
[21:52] <noam_> hi, i have a question. i'm using the binary ATI driver here. what will updating to 7.10 do? start using the driver packaged with ubuntu?
[21:52] <mnml> hi, anyone know a good software to draw class diagrams? (soft enginering)
[21:52] <Q_Continuum> attempting to use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror to set up a gutsy mirror, but it keeps erroring out.  Have been using this script to mirror Feisty with no issue for months.  Anyone able to help real quick?
[21:52] <erUSUL> dromer: :( sorry
[21:52] <erUSUL> !info testdisk | dromer
[21:52] <dromer> only a lost+found left :(
[21:52] <ubotu> dromer: testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[21:53] <erUSUL> dromer: that's where fsck leaves the files (or chunks of) that it could recover
[21:53] <dromer> hmm
[21:54] <srmerlins> NinjaSouljah, can reform that question since Iam in vmware atm too.
[21:54] <mnml> hi, anyone know a good software to draw class diagrams? (soft enginering)
[21:54] <erUSUL> dromer: important stuff?
[21:54] <NinjaSouljah> anyway to get a windows share folder working on a VMware station? I am afraid sharing the Wireless Card Connection from linux might be interfering with access permissions. The computer Isn't listed in the Network places area of the VMware Windows XP
[21:54] <erUSUL> mnml: dia?
[21:54] <kompensator_> dr_gonzo_, shouldn't you be learning?
[21:54] <dromer> erUSUL: not 'really' .. 200gb of movies, series, docus etc.
[21:54] <mnml> erUSUL, thanks a lot
[21:55] <farchord> Hey guys, for the first time yesterday, I was in ubuntu all day (yay!), but I got a wierd glitch when I went to sleep. My computer shut down, but my USB keyboard stayed lit.... first time I noticed that!!
[21:55] <farchord> Anyone ever got that^
[21:55] <bobgill> Is there a terminal command I can use to test port forwarding?
[21:55] <olmaler> bye
[21:55] <olmaler> exit
[21:55] <djm62> farchord: now that you mention it, yes, with my bluetooth dongle
[21:55] <olmaler> quit
[21:56] <farchord> djm62, strange bug...
[21:56] <srmerlins> NinjaSouljah, looks like network issue is set to host or private in vmware. try adjust in vmware OS tab.
[21:56] <NinjaSouljah> test the port forwarding with the application you are forwarding
[21:56] <NinjaSouljah> that is the solution
[21:56] <Hatl> hi! why isn't it possible to start kwrite from a root-konsole?
[21:56] <Hatl> i get the following error: kwrite: cannot connect to X server
[21:56] <Jake_001> does anyone know where pidgin keeps its chat logs?
[21:57] <srmerlins> NinjaSouljah, could be sometimes when you set up a virtual OS, u get a chance to specify network host or private.
[21:57] <NinjaSouljah> has anyone been successful at sharing a network folder from one windows computer to a VMware virtual machine?
[21:57] <ZeroA4> Jake_001, /home/user/.gaim/logs
[21:57] <Hatl> Jake_001: strace pidgin :)
[21:57] <eighty4> Jake_001, /home/chris/.gaim/logs
[21:57] <eighty4> ack, beaten to it
[21:57] <djm62> Jake_001: ~/.gaim/logs/protocol/username
[21:57] <Pirate_Hunter> how can i install itunes with wine, it keeps telling me it needs M$ OS?
[21:57] <ZeroA4> eighty4, :)
[21:58] <farchord> Pirate_Hunter, dont think you can
[21:58] <Jake_001> eighty4, Cheers mate
[21:58] <Jake_001> :
[21:58] <Jake_001> )
[21:58] <NinjaSouljah> hello?
[21:58] <Jake_001> :)
[21:58] <NinjaSouljah> has anyone been successful at sharing a network folder from one windows computer to a VMware virtual machine?
[21:58] <magnetron> Pirate_Hunter: did you check the Wine appdb homepage?
[21:58] <djm62> Jake_001: you know you can search them from beagle?
[21:58] <Hatl> if i execute "kwrite" as root i get the following error: "kwrite: cannot connect to X server"
[21:58] <Pirate_Hunter> farchord: actually you can winehq says you can but doesnt give instructions
[21:58] <Jake_001> beagle/
[21:59] <srmerlins> Pirate_Hunter: http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/10/itunes-73-on-linux-with-wine.html
[21:59] <farchord> Pirate_Hunter, yup
[21:59] <Nitecat> !gutsy
[21:59] <Jake_001> there isnt a gaim folder
[21:59] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[21:59] <NinjaSouljah> I am just wondering if there is some kind of conflic when you use Network Address Translation from the Linux Machine
[21:59] <Jake_001> there isnt a pidgin one either
[21:59] <magnetron> Jake_001: it's hidden
[21:59] <apo`_> Hi
[21:59] <djm62> Jake_001: no ~/.gaim ?
[21:59] <Nitecat> so tomorrow this channel will support gutsy?
[21:59] <dr_gonzo_> kompensator_: it is enough with learning today ;)
[21:59] <NinjaSouljah> ubuntu is so cool
[21:59] <magnetron> Jake_001: hit ctrl+h to show the hidden files in nautilus
[21:59] <Hatl> if i execute "kwrite" as root i get the following error: "kwrite: cannot connect to X server" what's the problem?
[21:59] <Jake_001> no its pidgin i am using
[21:59] <Nitecat> NinjaSouljah: Yep
[21:59] <dr_gonzo_> NinjaSouljah: yes
[21:59] <NinjaSouljah> is there a good newsreader
[21:59] <Jake_001> i upgraded to gutsy
[21:59] <Nitecat> pidgin = gaim
[21:59] <magnetron> NinjaSouljah: liferea
[21:59] <eighty4> Jake_001, "nautilus ~/.gaim/logs"
[21:59] <NinjaSouljah> yep wha?
[22:00] <apo`_> How do I change the keymap of the flash plugin in firefox? I've set it to qwerty (default is dvorak for me), but the keymap of flash is still dvorak
[22:00] <NinjaSouljah> does it have a superseach feature?
[22:00] <Nitecat> NinjaSouljah: "Yep" ubuntu is so cool
[22:00] <magnetron> NinjaSouljah: install "liferea" with add/remove applications, try it out!
[22:00] <NinjaSouljah> right on
[22:00] <megabytes> tuxsp.pt 61234
[22:00] <NinjaSouljah> does it match up to any of the features newsleecher offers?
[22:00] <Jake_001> says it cant find the folder
[22:01] <eighty4> blimey
[22:01] <NinjaSouljah> newsleecher is the bomb that is why I would never buy a mac
[22:01] <hoarycripple> NinjaSouljah, for leeching, try pan
[22:01] <Pirate_Hunter> srmerlins: thANx will read that
[22:01] <djm62> Jake_001: can you open a terminal?
[22:01] <Jake_001> yeh
[22:01] <hoarycripple> NinjaSouljah, pan.rebelbase.com
[22:01] <Jake_001> thats where i typed it
[22:01] <NinjaSouljah> check out newsleecher.com if you have a windows machine
[22:01] <NinjaSouljah> tell me what you think
[22:01] <eighty4> Jake_001, starting with the stupid questions but you have turned logging on, right? ;-)
[22:01] <Pici> NinjaSouljah: pan is in the ubuntu repositories
[22:01] <srmerlins> Pirate_Hunter, yw. itunes works fine here in wine.
[22:01] <Jake_001> lol
[22:01] <NinjaSouljah> I have tried pan
[22:01] <Jake_001> yeh
[22:01] <NinjaSouljah> pretty basic
[22:01] <djm62> Jake_001: type "cd ~/.gaim" then ls
[22:01] <lwizardl> ok can someone help me out with this I have a USB 2.0 HDD formated as HFS+ using macdrive 7 on windows xp and windows reads this drive perfectly fine and so does my xbox360 but ubuntu when having the hfsplus & hfsutils installed says its unpartitioned
[22:01] <cyber_brain_mfkg> hi all!i've just bought asus notebook with IntelCore2Duo proccessor but i have some problems installing ubuntu(both 6.06 7.04)!can i run ubuntu for 64bit on my processor(Core2Duo T5250)???it seams it has some graphic problems(it has NVidia GeForce 8400M G)!!!any sugestions???
[22:01] <lwizardl> how can i get it to read the drive
[22:01] <Pirate_Hunter> srmerlins: nice to know ;)
[22:02] <NinjaSouljah> I like a program you can search through all the binaries
[22:02] <NinjaSouljah> fast
[22:02] <djm62> Jake_001: just as a total sanity check...
[22:02] <neohaker> !who
[22:02] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[22:02] <Jake_001> no such directory
[22:02] <Jake_001> lol
[22:02] <SilentAssassin> i have some problems with an ATI graphics card
[22:02] <Pici> NinjaSouljah: From what I hear, the best newsreaders in Linux are all console based.
[22:02] <neohaker> !tab
[22:02] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[22:02] <Kworth22> ...
[22:03] <eighty4> Jake_001, open up a nautilus window in your home dir and click on View - Show Hidden Files
[22:03] <NinjaSouljah> I will have to look into it
[22:03] <eighty4> any luck?
[22:03] <djm62> Jake_001: out of interest, can you do "cd ~/.pidgin"?
[22:03] <Nitecat> !tee
[22:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tee - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:03] <Jake_001> no i cant
[22:03] <Jake_001> i have looked at the hidden files
[22:03] <Kworth22> erUSUL: somehow the routing still does not work right: connect: Network is unreachable
[22:03] <Kworth22>  <--- thats what i get
[22:03] <Nitecat> !gnorba
[22:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnorba - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:03] <Jake_001> no .pidgin or .gaim
[22:04] <eighty4> hmmmmmm how odd. Jake_001, i'm all out of ideas sorry.
[22:04] <theAtom> !pastebin
[22:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[22:04] <Kworth22> how do i add a route to route -n <-- over an ppp0 connection ?
[22:04] <NinjaSouljah> bunk the jank
[22:04] <Flare183> Can anyone tell me how to make windows xp on vmware player connect to the internet through a bridged connection
[22:04] <Jake_001> it just seems silly it gives you the option to log and doesnt tell you where the friggin log files are
[22:04] <Nitecat> Jake_001: I think it's .purple
[22:05] <Nitecat> got that one?
[22:05] <theAtom> when I run rootkithunter, I get the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40981/     ANY IDEAS PLEASE?
[22:05] <ferr> helo
[22:05] <ferr> y i cant install xmms?
[22:05] <Jake_001> aaahhh found it
[22:05] <Jake_001> :P
[22:05] <squizzle> what time is the torrent for Gutsy final going up? i want to put a 100mbit server on it to help out
[22:05] <Vlet> ferr: be more specific
[22:05] <eighty4> where was it Jake_001?
[22:06] <riotkittie> ferr: i dont know. why cant you install xmms?
[22:06] <farchord> Anyone know any programs that support the playback of VP61 and VP62 streams in linux? VLC only does VP61, and even there, barely does...
[22:06] <Pici> squizzle: when its done, see topic
[22:06] <Jake_001> what gave them the idea to call it purple and not pidgin
[22:06] <squizzle> topic eh
[22:06] <Jake_001> was in my home dir under .purple
[22:06]  * squizzle looks
[22:06] <eighty4> libpurple is the name of the back-end library that pigdin uses
[22:06] <djm62> Jake_001: separating presentation from logic... purple can be the backend for other software
[22:06] <Flare183> Can anyone tell me how to make windows xp on vmware player connect to the internet through a bridged connection?
[22:06] <cyber_brain_mfkg> I have problems to start gui installer on my new laptop(it has core2duo T5250,GeForce8400G M)!anyone 2 help or should i leave this shi*y Vista on it????
[22:06] <Jake_001> oh i see
[22:07] <Hatl> if i execute "kwrite" as root i get the following error: "kwrite: cannot connect to X server" what's the problem?
[22:07] <Nitecat> Jake_001: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidgin_%28software%29
[22:07] <Klanticus> hi ppl... I'm having problems with audio. May someone help me please?
[22:07] <Klanticus> I'm using feisty (amd64)
[22:07] <farchord> cyber_brain_mfkg, If the gui wont work, you might have to go get the Alternate CD to run in console
[22:07] <farchord> Klanticus, what kind of problems^
[22:07] <cyber_brain_mfkg> farchord, alternate CD???
[22:07] <farchord> ?
[22:07] <YeTr2> so, any idea when will pidgin make it's way into ubuntu?
[22:07] <awalton__> it's already there.
[22:07] <eighty4> it's in Gutsy, YeTr2
[22:07] <farchord> cyber_brain_mfkg, There's 2 CD versions, Live, and Alternate
[22:07] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: Hey, did you try it in safe graphics mode?
[22:08] <YeTr2> eighty4: thanks
[22:08] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Nitecat, yes!same thing!
[22:08] <YeTr2> eighty4: and hopefully gutsy will go stable before the end of the month?
[22:08] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: The try alt
[22:08] <ferr> can anyone help me with this...how to enable yahoo mail beta from firefox?it say,not support..
[22:08] <Nitecat> s/The/Then
[22:08] <farchord> YeTr2, Tomorrow actually.
[22:08] <eighty4> YeTr2, it's out very soon. #ubuntu-release-party
[22:08] <eighty4> ;-)
[22:09] <Klanticus> farchord, when the system boots up the sound works, but if I touch any kind of sound config (like volume) it goes away
[22:09] <Vlet> ferr: Yahoo mail beta doesn't support firefox?
[22:09] <Jake_001> oh dear god they dont have a release party ...thats tragic
[22:09] <Jake_001> lol
[22:09] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Nitecat, it seams it can't start Xserver!can i run 64bit version on my proccessor at all?
[22:09] <YeTr2> farchord: 'tomorrow' is a relative term. I've done as much as '3 weeks later' tomorrow
[22:09] <mariocesar_bo> Dear Friends, The LoCo team from Bolivia are shipping a Ubuntu Distribution base on Ubuntu: Ubuntu Bolivia. You can see a note on http://digg.com/linux_unix/Bolivia_gets_is_own_Linux_Distribution_base_on_Ubuntu_Ubuntu_Bolivia
[22:09] <farchord> Klanticus, I fixed my sound problem with the lil asoundconf utility
[22:09] <bobgill> how do I set a static IP in Feisty... I am in Network Settings > Settings for interface eth0
[22:10] <ferr> Vlet: from here,yes..i have to switch to classic view
[22:10] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: I don't know.  I personally would just use the 32-bit version, for many reasons I've run into in the past
[22:10] <farchord> YeTr2, meh just going by the meter on the ubuntu site lol
[22:10] <Ward1983> mariocesar_bo, what's the difference between the regular ubuntu?
[22:10] <srbaker> so i can't install the gutsy Rc
[22:10] <Klanticus> farchord, how do I use it?
[22:10] <srbaker> on my dell.  it has ATI X1400
[22:10] <YeTr2> farchord: technically, the release is dated as 7.10... that would mean any time in october :P
[22:10] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: Then the 32-bit flash, realplayer, and nvidia drivers will work too
[22:10] <avarner_> is there a way to make a default wireless connection with NetworkManager?
[22:10] <srbaker> anyone know if there are related problems that have been fixed that will be in the final?
[22:10] <Vlet> ferr: Well, that sounds like yahoo's fault, no?
[22:11] <srbaker> perhaps there are nightly builds of gutsy?
[22:11] <cyber_brain_mfkg> farchord, is it posible to run 64bit ubuntu on Core2Duo proccessors at all???
[22:11] <farchord> Klanticus, go in console, type asoundconf list
[22:11] <farchord> cyber_brain_mfkg, Yep, Core2's a x86-64 cpu
[22:11] <ferr> any idea how to enable it?install missing plugins..maybe?
[22:11] <Klanticus> farchord, got 2 devices
[22:11] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: I have dual Turions, and I installed 64-bit, got it working, and then switched to 32 bit after much trouble
[22:11] <farchord> But 64-bit linux has alot of deficiencies, driver-wise.
[22:11] <SP8> gutsy final already anywhere?
[22:11] <YeTr2> avarner_: I would look to debian configuration for /etc/network/interfaces for that. but that's me and my dislike of a few of the utilities that ubuntu choose to include.
[22:11] <Klanticus> farchord, the sound card and TV card
[22:11] <farchord> klanticus: Which?
[22:11] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Nitecat, what kinda truble?
[22:12] <mariocesar_bo> Ward1983: First it's shippid in a box with stickers and promotional material of Ubuntu, and most important the second CD the AddOns has extra aplication that can be installed using the gnome-app-install, being really easy an fast get every app install it
[22:12] <Hatl> if i execute "kwrite" as root (su -)i get the following error: "kwrite: cannot connect to X server" what's the problem?
[22:12] <Klanticus> farchord, NVidia and SAA7134
[22:12] <avarner_> YeTr2: Okay thanks
[22:12] <farchord> Klanticus, then, type asoundconf set-default-device nameofcardthatyouwant
[22:12] <farchord> errr
[22:12] <mariocesar_bo> Ward1983: and of course, has Compiz Fusion working on the Live :D
[22:12] <farchord> actually hold on
[22:12] <Vlet> #ubuntu-release-party
[22:12] <theAtom> when I run rootkithunter, I get the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40981/     ANY IDEAS PLEASE?
[22:12] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: what farchord and I were talking about.  Driver issues.  Proprietary 3rd party binaries issues, etc.
[22:12] <Seveas> lamont, you make #ubuntu 1337 :p
[22:12] <Ward1983> mariocesar_bo, is it also in english?
[22:12] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Nitecat, but u r not using 100% of your hardware arn't u?
[22:12] <lwizardl> anyone here use hfs+
[22:12] <farchord> My bad it<s asoundconf set-default-card
[22:12] <ferr> Vlet: any idea how to enable it?install missing plugins..maybe?
[22:13] <mariocesar_bo> Ward1983: No, it's fully on Spanish
[22:13] <Hyperkilla> hey, im using the livecd right now, i just installed fiesty, but when i boot without the cd i get an error
[22:13] <jussi01> 1337!!
[22:13] <farchord> nitecat: If you are really adamant on running it, you could try to download the nvidia driver... not sure how thatd work tho
[22:13] <Ward1983> mariocesar_bo, no language packs for english?
[22:13] <Vlet> ferr: Does yahoo say it doesn't support firefox? What is the error you get?
[22:13] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: Well my word size is 32 bits..... but that seems to be a good thing.  32-bit Ubuntu runs very fast on dual core 64s
[22:13] <Klanticus> farchord, didn't work yet :/
[22:13] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: I'm using more of my hardware than you are ;)
[22:14] <ferr> Vlet: i'll check 1st...cant remmber
[22:14] <mariocesar_bo> Ward1983: No, it has all and just the spanish translations
[22:14] <farchord> klanticus: mmmm not sure tho, might want to check your sound config in gnome then.... sorry im still n00bish to this lol
[22:14] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: I actually installed 32-bit so I could use ALL my peripherals
[22:14] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Nitecat, u r right haveing the fact that i have Win Vista on it now :D
[22:14] <dominator> exit
[22:14] <Seveas> !u | cyber_brain_mfkg
[22:14] <ubotu> cyber_brain_mfkg: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[22:14] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: lol..
[22:14] <Ward1983> mariocesar_bo, ok thanx for the info
[22:14] <farchord> Nitecat, Only device I cant use either way is my ATi TV Wonder Elite PCI card, and thats cuz it has 0 drivers :(
[22:15] <Klanticus> farchord, there should be no problems with gnome, because I can always reset to get sound back
[22:15] <Nitecat> farchord: :(
[22:15] <Klanticus> farchord, looks like some kind of driver problem
[22:15] <farchord> Klanticus, Maybe... I dont have enough experience yet to give you a straight answer, sorry
[22:15] <Ward1983> mariocesar_bo, would have been cooler if the improvements were for the whole communitty imo though
[22:16] <Klanticus> farchord, ok.. thank you anyway
[22:16] <farchord> np
[22:16] <psyferre> hey folks, anyone have experience with ndiswrapper?  My wireless USB device is not supported, and despite following instructions in forums i'm still having some trouble
[22:17] <Klanticus> psyferre, what kind of problems?
[22:17] <psyferre> ndiswrapper -l shows that both drivers i need are installed, but it's also supposed to say that the device is present, which it does not
[22:17] <mark____-> both drivers-why does it need two?
[22:17]  * Nitecat is about to delve into some ndiswrapper in a sec. :(
[22:18] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Nitecat, the problem is that it won't start install at all when i use ubuntu 7.04 64bit!i can run 6.06 32bit in safe graphic mode but not in full,kubuntu 64 won't boot at all,and ubuntu 7.04 32 has also Xserver problem!!!it might be a graphic card issue???
[22:18] <psyferre> y'know, i really have no idea mark :)
[22:18] <Hatl> if i execute "kwrite" as root (su -) i get the following error: "kwrite: cannot connect to X server" what's the problem?
[22:18] <Nitecat> mark____-: some devices need the .inf and the .sys
[22:18] <santander> hi, how do i find which module is linked to eth0?
[22:18] <psyferre> this is what i'm going by: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414023
[22:18] <Pici> santander: lsmod
[22:18] <Pici> santander: er, lsmod | grep eth0
[22:18] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: I'm pretty sure if you use 32-bit you can get the nvidia drivers working
[22:19] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: and then it will be alright
[22:19] <santander> this return nothing
[22:19] <Ward1983> cyber_brain_mfkg, Nitecat is right in my experience
[22:19] <Klanticus> Nitecat, do you have an Nvidia card?
[22:19] <santander> i looked in the output of lsmod already, and can't find it
[22:19] <Nitecat> Klanticus: Yes
[22:19] <psyferre> the latest version of ndiswrapper did away with step 4 and changed it to just -i instead of load_fw_ar5523
[22:19] <mark____-> thanks Nitecat didnt know
[22:19] <boubbin> is there a command like stopx, when there is startx ? :)
[22:19] <Klanticus> Nitecat, I'm using ubuntu 7.04 64 bits here
[22:19] <Nitecat> Klanticus: in a dual core turion notebook.  It works really well
[22:20] <mark____-> give me moment psyferre will check-just eating dinner:)
[22:20] <Klanticus> Nitecat, gfx card works good here too...
[22:20] <Nitecat> Klanticus: I had to give it up.... just got tired of it flaking out :)
[22:20] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Nitecat, ok!but why they are make 64bit versions at all if they can't get them work!:S
[22:20] <Hyperkilla> how do i format a hard drive  please?
[22:20] <psyferre> thanks for your help mark, enjoy your dinner :)
[22:20] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: If you wanted an apache server, I'd say excellent choice :P
[22:20] <squizzle> use a big fat magnet
[22:20] <theAtom> !pastebin
[22:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[22:20] <Isadora> Boa tarde, vim aqui pra trollar
[22:20] <Isadora> =)
[22:20] <LjL> !br
[22:20] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[22:21] <farchord> cyber_brain_mfkg, cuz were still pretty much in the 64-bit transition. Even Windows is not fully 64-bit just yet.
[22:21] <Ward1983> Isadora, are you affiliated somehow with the isadora VJ software by any chance?
[22:21] <bottiger> how do I find out how much harddrive space I have on my server?
[22:21] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: Klanticus likes his 64-bit machine.  Maybe they make it for people like him that can make everything they need work
[22:21] <Nitecat> :)
[22:21] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Nitecat, thanx man!i'll try something other...Fedora or something else
[22:22] <rjack> bottiger: df -h
[22:22] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: You're gonna have the same probs.  I'd still recommend 32-bit ubuntu
[22:22] <santander> Pici : lsmod | grep eth0 gives nothing, i lloked before in the output of lsmod, but i don't find it
[22:22] <Nitecat> and unfortunately I must go
[22:22] <Nitecat> bye all
[22:22]  * Nitecat waves
[22:22] <farchord> cyber_brain_mfkg, heres food for thoughts.... when you get kicked in the console, on your boot cd, do apt-get install nvidia-glx
[22:22] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Nitecat, i think i'll take your advice...but ubuntu 32 7.04 won't work also
[22:22] <novacheck> anyone familar with emerald theme manager
[22:22] <farchord> and see if it works
[22:22] <Klanticus> cyber_brain_mfkg, the only problem I got with 64bits is flash and java applets not working
[22:22] <Hyperkilla> can someone please show me how to format a hard drive please?
[22:22] <Zapt> hihi
[22:22] <Cryoniq> What time is Gutsy released the 18th?
[22:23] <PriceChild> Cryoniq, /topic
[22:23] <bottiger> rjack: okey - and what can you make out from this: http://pastebin.ca/740329
[22:23] <Klanticus> cyber_brain_mfkg, it takes some work to install the 32 bit firefox
[22:23] <novacheck> how do i get themes to work in emerald
[22:23] <cyber_brain_mfkg> farchord, i'll try that!
[22:23] <novacheck> i see there are two installed but how to i apply them
[22:24] <Pici> santander: go through lshw | less, the section for your eth card should show what driver its using.
[22:24] <Ward1983> topic
[22:24] <Klanticus> does someone got problems with nvidia sound chipset?
[22:24] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Klanticus, my problem is that i can't even get to console with 64bit version of 7.04
[22:24] <novacheck> do you have ati card
[22:24] <dagi3d> hi. where can I can change the compiz options in gutsy gibon? I dont see any option...
[22:24] <Ward1983> oops accidental paste
[22:25] <farchord> cyber_brain_mfkg, After you done that, and installation succeeded, do nvidia-xconfig. Then, do /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[22:25] <psyferre> anyone know why the gui for ndiswrapper would just start and then disappear?
[22:25] <r3dn3ss> does running two window managers effect performance?
[22:25] <santander> Pici : i found it, it's tulip, thank you very much :)
[22:25] <FRiDG3> crap, I messed up 1337 users ;)
[22:25] <eighty4> dagi3d, sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager i think
[22:26] <r3dn3ss> If I have two users logged in to a machine would it be faster to have both of them running the same window manager, or would 1 KDE 1 Gnome be the same?
[22:26] <Ricket> So what about ubuntu 7.10 will change tomorrow? I just decided to go get it, but then I find out that right now only a release candidate is available and the real one will be out tomorrow... should I wait until tomorrow or go ahead and start the download?
[22:26] <leexgx> the torrent should work well
[22:26] <leexgx> be intresting to see how meny users wanting it
[22:27] <leexgx> i could see it hitting 10k heh
[22:27] <matt1> Ricket: it's *nice* to have the 'final' version burned
[22:27] <Ward1983> If i ever improve ubuntu, i'm just gonna release it for the people that speak the local dialect (somehow like ubuntu bolivia is doing)
[22:27] <nj786> hey can anybody tell me how to update to the new ubuntu?
[22:27] <Ward1983> really good for the community
[22:27] <Ricket> matt1: well, i don't even plan on burning this, I'll be using it through a virtual machine, at least for the next few weeks. so anything that changes by tomorrow should just come through synaptic, right?
[22:28] <net_mask> nj786, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:28] <farchord> nj786: it<s not 100% complete yet, you are SURE you wanna do it^
[22:28] <dagi3d> eighty4: thanks, thats was the package to install :)
[22:28] <farchord> ?
[22:28] <farchord> net_mask, not yet.... that wont work
[22:28] <eighty4> dagi3d, no sweat :)
[22:28] <nj786> farchord: why do you ask that should i not? what are the issues?
[22:28] <H264> nj786: join the channel #ubuntu-release-party and wait another day ;)
[22:28] <matt1> Ricket: that makes sense... just new synaptic updates
[22:28] <farchord> It<s Beta.
[22:28] <farchord> Unreleased.
[22:28] <serenityUK> i think it's frozen now, out tomorrow man
[22:28] <r3dn3ss> If I have two users logged in to a machine would it be faster to have both of them running the same window manager, or would 1 KDE 1 Gnome be the same?
[22:29] <nj786> H264: so your sayin is the final version will come out tomorrow?
[22:29] <farchord> serenityUK, Not sure if the latest version is on the reps yet tho
[22:29] <H264> nj786: yeah
[22:29] <fujin_> r3dn3ss: being that KDE is bloatware, I'd say it wouldn't be the same
[22:29] <eighty4> r3dn3ss, i would guess that running two window managers would mean having both sets of libs in use, so yeah
[22:29] <H264> nj786: that is what everybody in #ubuntu-release-party is waiting for... :)
[22:29] <BOZG> can anyone explain to me why I'm so excited?
[22:30] <farchord> BOZG, is your gf on your lap
[22:30] <farchord> ?
[22:30] <serenityUK> i've been running since tribe3 lol
[22:30] <YeTr2> r3dn3ss: each would get a sperate instance of the WM, so it doesn't matter.
[22:30] <LjL> !ot
[22:30] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:30] <Ryuho> what's a shortcut for bringing up terminal within Xfce
[22:30] <dondanielo> do you have that issue, too : http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/16338/
[22:30] <bruenig> Ryuho, bind a key combination to the command "Terminal"
[22:30] <Ryuho> okay
[22:30] <bruenig> needs to be capitalized
[22:30] <BOZG> farchord: ha ha, I wish
[22:31] <farchord> BOZG,  ;)
[22:31] <mazzen> hi! is it possible to install a non-gui ubuntu (without X)  with the live-cd?
[22:31] <bruenig> mazzen, no
[22:31] <mazzen> bruenig: thanks!
[22:31] <BOZG> it's great that the full version is being released but I've no reason to feel this excited about it
[22:31] <serenityUK> server edition is cli only but not livecd
[22:31] <matt1> can anyone tell me the difference between blackbox, openbox and fluxbox?  which one should I use on a legacy system?
[22:31] <jim> can someone help me with compiling synergy from source?
[22:32] <H264> mazzen: you could get the server edition and install that...
[22:32] <[X]treme> #ubuntu (1337 users) <--- nice
[22:32] <mazzen> bruenig: simple question, simple answer :-)
[22:32] <theAtom> !pastebin
[22:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[22:32] <farchord> 1337 :D
[22:32] <bruenig> I guess that is one thing discrete release distros have. Even though releases are inconsequential and more illusions than anything else, they create an anticipation as unjustified as that anticipation is.
[22:32] <jim> please anyone?
[22:32] <cyber_brain_mfkg> farchord, i get this message: "BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-3ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash)...sh:can't access tty;job control turned off"!!!
[22:33] <princess^> does anyone know what hda1?
[22:33] <psyferre> hey, odd request here... i set an alert to let me know if someone is talking to me.  would someone please say psyferre so I can see if it dings?  I'd be much obliged :)
[22:33] <aardfox> hah, when I entered the chat there were 1337 users in the room :)
[22:33] <farchord> cyber: Whoa, no idea mate...
[22:33] <nikin> is there any way to set my 15" 4:3 TFT to 840x480? it is no problem if there are black borders around it. I tried Virtual in xorg.conf but it sets resolution to 640x480 and scrols horizontaly
[22:33] <mazzen> H264: thanks. my bandwith isnt so good and so  i hoped, i wont have to dowload another image
[22:33] <stray77> psyferre
[22:33] <matt1> cyber_brain_mfkg: that problem has many reasons, i often get it after an update... theres some solution on the forum
[22:33] <jim> can someone help me with compiling?
[22:33] <psyferre> thanks stray, i'll never miss a message again!
[22:33] <[X]treme> Anyone interested in buying web hosting ?
[22:34] <eighty4> no thanks [X]treme
[22:34] <Stev> is a good idea to install 64bit version? should i expect problems with applications (maybe when mixing 32/64 code)? how much this improves performance?
[22:34] <cyber_brain_mfkg> matt1, update?i can't even start install of os! :S
[22:34] <matt1> cyber_brain_mfkg: i find i usually need to change my grub settings for the location of the the kernel and check my /etc/fstab
[22:34] <[X]treme> www.nano-host.com <---- RELIABLE WEB HOSTING
[22:34] <H264> mazzen: you could just uninstall X and whatever else you don't want...
[22:34] <farchord> matt1, hes on the livecd
[22:34] <Jammer> Stev, it's a hassle with little performance difference :p
[22:35] <matt1> farchord: ooh interesting... my mistake.. sry to dive in
[22:35] <Klanticus> Stev, you may find problems with browser. There are no official 64bit flash players
[22:35] <farchord> matt1, np m8, ur trying to help :)
[22:35] <nikin> is there any way to set my 15" 4:3 TFT to 840x480? it is no problem if there are black borders around it. I tried Virtual in xorg.conf but it sets resolution to 640x480 and scrols horizontaly
[22:35] <Sitherae> I know this isn't really the place to ask but the guys over at #winehq aren't resonding. What do you type in the launcher to execute a file in DX8?
[22:36] <crafteh> how can I edit the compiz fusion settings in 7.10 in addition to the options in the appearance dialog box?
[22:36] <Klanticus> Stev, I can't tell you about performance. Never benchmarked it
[22:36] <matt1> any blackbox, fluxbox, or openbox users?
[22:36] <Stev> Jammer, Klanticus: tnx
[22:36] <mark____-> psyferre, there?
[22:36] <jim> can someone help me with compiling?
[22:36] <mark____-> i pmd u
[22:36] <psyferre> yup
[22:36] <Aramil> i used to be an openbox one :)
[22:36] <mark____-> jim, what is up
[22:36] <mark____-> have u installed build-essential?
[22:36] <Klanticus> jim, what did you wanna compile?
[22:36] <eighty4> crafteh, "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager"
[22:37] <psyferre> mark____-: huh, i didn't get it... using trillian for IRC, so maybe that's it
[22:37] <jim> yah i installed build esspential
[22:37] <mark____-> aha ok
[22:37] <jim> then i dunno where to go from there
[22:37] <matt1> Aramil: is openbox preferable to blackbox or flux?
[22:37] <crafteh> eighty4, thanks
[22:37] <ebirtaid> openbox is the best imho
[22:37] <psyferre> mark____-: i have not
[22:37] <jim> im trying to compile synergy
[22:37] <Aramil> well i think it was the best
[22:37] <Aramil> very easy
[22:37] <Aramil> and very fast
[22:37] <mark____-> psyferre, ok whats status so far, whats the problem,
[22:38] <mark____-> and got the url again, il give it a qukck read
[22:38] <psyferre> mark____-: I was just looking up how to do that.  Do i need build-essential to use ndiswrapper?
[22:38] <mark____-> nono
[22:38] <mark____-> :)
[22:38] <matt1> ebirtaid: I'm working on setting up openbox now, but I wanted to check if open is the better way to go than black or flux.. to avoid redoing setup
[22:38] <Klanticus> jim, well I never compiled it. Do you know how to use the console?
[22:38] <BOZG> where are system sounds kept by default on Gutsy does anyone know?
[22:38] <psyferre> mark____-:this is what i'm using: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414023
[22:38] <disinterested> one day till gutsy
[22:38] <ebirtaid> it all boils down to preference, they are pretty much the same
[22:38] <jim> Klanticus, not too clear
[22:39] <ebirtaid> openbox is more configurable
[22:39] <subdancer> hi there
[22:39] <idrop> Hi, On feisty w/ an intel next-gen wireless n card:  4965AGN. Using NDISWrapper to fire up windows drivers. Believe gutsy will support this wireless card 'out of the box' now. If so, would I need to uninstall  NDISWrapper before moving to gutsy?
[22:39] <ebirtaid> and faster in my experience
[22:39] <ebirtaid> flux has a panel though
[22:39] <jim> Klanticus, but ive used it and compiled things under ubuntu before, i just forgot how now
[22:39] <subdancer> does anyone knowing if the release goes live in 20 mins?
[22:39] <Lifeisfunny> 'sup sundancer
[22:39] <colbert> how do I disable ipv6 on Feisty ??
[22:39] <aardfox> wierd
[22:39] <Klanticus> jim, can you go to the directory where you have the sources?
[22:39] <mark____-> subdancer, i wondered also
[22:39] <matt1> ebirtaid: i read some user's opinions that black was basically dead/neglected
[22:39] <eighty4> subdancer, probably not. feisty was mid-afternoon UTC, apparently.
[22:39] <mark____-> eu time, day almost done
[22:39] <jim> Klanticus, in the console?
[22:39] <aardfox> i can join any channel but the #python channel, anyone else get this problem?
[22:39] <Klanticus> jim, yep
[22:40] <subdancer> ahh crap i already cleaned my hd :)
[22:40] <ebirtaid> it's starting to be developed again from what I have read but it is not nearly as active as flux or open
[22:40] <jim> Klanticus, im there
[22:40] <matt1> subdancer: when fesity came out it didn't get released till like 3 or 4 in the morning new york time
[22:40] <mark____-> psyferre, ok u said u didnt have to do step 4, why..and yea install build-essential
[22:40] <Klanticus> jim, are there any file named configure or Makefile?
[22:41] <jim> Klanticus, there is one named synergy.conf
[22:41] <ebirtaid> hehe
[22:41] <jim> Klanticus, but no configure or makefile
[22:41] <psyferre> mark____-: step 4 was done away with under the latest version of ndiswrapper... doesn't work anymore
[22:41] <firefly2442> is Ubuntu being released tonight or tomorrow?
[22:41] <stray77> aardfoxm, i think you need to register your nick to get in there, i have no problem
[22:41] <Klanticus> jim, any sub directories?
[22:41] <subdancer> well gutsy will free me from windows completly
[22:41] <psyferre> mark____-: isntead you replace load_fw_ar5523 with -i and load it like a driver
[22:42] <jim> Klanticus, yes but that is just docs
[22:42] <Lifeisfunny> is gutsy this release?
[22:42] <mcscruff> lo anyone use wine + java?
[22:42] <psyferre> mark____-: can i use apt-get to install build-essentials?
[22:42] <subdancer> yap
[22:42] <Lifeisfunny> cool
 gutsy gibbons
[22:42] <Lifeisfunny> hanks
[22:42] <Lifeisfunny> thanks
[22:42] <firefly2442> is ubuntu being released tonight or tomorrow?
 8.04 is calles hardy heron
[22:43] <Klanticus> jim, aren't there any readme or install doc?
[22:43] <matt1> isn't there a command I can type which will turn my feisty into gutsy via apt-get?
[22:43] <mark____-> psyferre, so ndiswrapper -i ar5523.bin ?
[22:43] <Lifeisfunny> no kidding
[22:43] <mark____-> psyferre, yep sudo apt-get install build-essential
[22:43] <ebirtaid> matt1: you have to edit your sources.list
[22:43] <Bothered> matt1: sure is
[22:43] <disinterested> firefly2442: we really aren't sure
[22:43] <Lifeisfunny> I would have thought hippo's hiney
[22:43] <jim> Klanticus, yeah
[22:43] <firefly2442> ok thanks, just curious, trying to figure out ircII here... ;)
[22:43] <Lifeisfunny> "the big rig"
[22:43] <psyferre> mark____-: yes, that the command.  I had tried using apt-get but, i hadn't updated my list
[22:44] <Lifeisfunny> bwahhahahha
[22:44] <Klanticus> jim, take a look at them. they should contain all the instructions
[22:44] <jim> Klanticus. the doc directory is a copy of this page, http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/
[22:44] <claws_bugs> hi folks
[22:44] <claws_bugs> hows life
[22:44] <Sitherae> Does anyone know how to execute .patch files?
[22:44] <Lifeisfunny> howdy claws
[22:44] <jim> Klanticus, i dont understand what ./configure is
[22:44] <ebirtaid> jim: it is a command
[22:45] <ebirtaid> run it in a terminal
[22:45] <claws_bugs> jimster are you compiling for the first time?
[22:45] <claws_bugs> what are ye compiling?
[22:45] <nikin> is there any way to set my 15" 4:3 TFT to 840x480? it is no problem if there are black borders around it. I tried Virtual in xorg.conf but it sets resolution to 640x480 and scrols horizontaly
[22:45] <jim> ebirtaid, just type in ./configure?
[22:45] <ebirtaid> yes
[22:45] <ebirtaid> 17:39:18 < fn'jim> Klanticus, but ive used it and compiled things under ubuntu before, i just forgot how now
[22:45] <ebirtaid> hmmmm
[22:45] <jim> claws_bugs, synergy
[22:45] <claws_bugs> read the README
[22:45] <claws_bugs> then INSTALL
[22:45] <ebirtaid> indeed
[22:46] <claws_bugs> then usually its ./configure;make;make install
[22:46] <ebirtaid> sudo make install
[22:46] <ebirtaid> for global
[22:46] <Bothered> matt1: I can't find the link right now, but you can upgrade via the command line
[22:46] <claws_bugs> if you want to put it somewhere special
[22:46] <thedonvaughn> i'd recommend using && instead of ';' when combining commands
[22:46] <eighty4> claws_bugs, would it be preferable to use ; or && ?
[22:46] <eighty4> lol beaten to it
[22:46] <ebirtaid> ; works
[22:46] <claws_bugs> ./configure --prefix=/some/dir;make;make install
[22:46] <thedonvaughn> eighty4: &&
[22:46] <mark____-> aha, so has u got build-essential now?
[22:46] <thedonvaughn> ; does not check if the previous command succeeded
[22:46] <thedonvaughn> which is important
[22:46] <claws_bugs> eighty4 hm never thought about it
[22:46] <ebirtaid> true
[22:46] <thedonvaughn> bad habit to break
[22:46] <jim> i'll try that
[22:46] <Bothered> matt1: I can't find the link, but you can definitely upgrade via the command line
[22:47] <disinterested> i must admit linux is more complicated than windows but its nice not having all those spftwaare install cd's
[22:47] <claws_bugs> oow
[22:47] <claws_bugs> ok
[22:47] <claws_bugs> see
[22:47] <hyper_b0le>  /sigh hurry up ubuntu -.-
[22:47] <claws_bugs> learn every day with linux
[22:47] <ebirtaid> matt1: change all instances of feisty to gutsy in your /etc/apt/sources.list , then run apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:47] <hyper_b0le> Why so?
[22:47] <hurricaneharry> Sitherae: "patch" ( man patch )
[22:47] <nikin> !xserver
[22:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:48] <mark____-> psyferre, u got build-essential now?
[22:48] <BOZG> something in compiz keeps merging the top of my windows with the taskbar and so the choices to minimise, maximise and close disappear?
[22:48] <BOZG> anyone know what setting it is?
[22:48] <Sitherae> hurricaneharry: https://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=371929&group_id=134206
[22:48] <psyferre> mark____-: workin' on it... my wired internet connection has suddenly flaked out
[22:48] <psyferre> bah
[22:48] <aardfox> I've just got to say, with Gutsy Gibbons Ubuntu is by far the sexiest operating system ever.
[22:49] <ebirtaid> gibbon
[22:49] <ebirtaid> there is no s
[22:49] <claws_bugs> I prefer archlinux
[22:49] <eighty4> BOZG, you can get the borders back by pressing alt-F2 and typing "metacity --replace"
[22:49] <aardfox> and I'd just like to say thanks to anyone who had something to do with it
[22:49] <ebirtaid> pclos got my wireless working
[22:49] <ebirtaid> shrug
[22:49] <claws_bugs> havent tried opensolaris or gotten into plan9 yet
[22:50] <aardfox> also, could someone try joining #python and tell me if they're successful?
[22:50] <nikin> is there any way to set my 15" 4:3 TFT to 840x480? it is no problem if there are black borders around it. I tried Virtual in xorg.conf but it sets resolution to 640x480 and scrols horizontaly
[22:50] <eighty4> aardfox, works for me
[22:50] <hyper_b0le> Doesnt work for me
[22:50] <ebirtaid> aardfox: yep
[22:50] <Lifeisfunny> aardfox, no dice
[22:50] <BOZG> eighty4: that worked but it seems to have disable compiz altogether
[22:50] <aardfox> wierd, it won't let me join
[22:50] <Bothered> aardfox: doesn't work for me
[22:50] <crdlb> aardfox, you need to register
[22:50] <aardfox> thanks guys :)
[22:51] <tux97> hi does  7.10 beavailbe at midnight?
[22:51] <Lifeisfunny> post that appears in the server window of the irc chat client:     #python :You need to be identified to join that channel
[22:51] <eighty4> tux97, at some point before 23:59 on the 18th :P
[22:51] <ebirtaid> h4r
[22:51] <ebirtaid> just download the nightly if its that big a deal
[22:52] <hurricaneharry> Sitherae: This patch is against Wine CVS as of 2005-11-18. wich in essention means you need the source code of that date and then you can aplly the patch.
[22:52] <aardfox> crdlb, how do i register?
[22:52] <Gin> hi, how do you use update-manager to see if there is an dist upgrade available?
[22:52] <volk> I have a stupid quesion - how can I make an ntfs drive world readable on server version of ubuntu? It works fine on normal ubuntu, but when I mount it as root on my server no other user can read from it and permissions cannot be changed to allow that :S
[22:52] <ebirtaid> aardfox:  /msg nickserv identify password
[22:52] <crdlb> !register | aardfox
[22:52] <ubotu> aardfox: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[22:52] <mark____-> psyferre, pm
[22:52] <Neosophist> Lifeisfunny: you need to register your nickname to join python
[22:52] <crdlb> aardfox, if you need help, ask in #freenode
[22:52] <Neosophist> Lifeisfunny: /nickserv help
[22:52] <Lifeisfunny> neofax, thanks but I was relaying that info to aardfox
[22:52] <lunahood> if i try to run a backup with simple-backup i got this message: "E: Another Simple Backup daemon already running: exiting" ... how i can finish this current/running process ?
[22:52] <Gin> hi, how do you use update-manager to see if there is an dist upgrade available?
[22:53] <aardfox> thanks a bunch guys :)
[22:53] <ebirtaid> lunahood:  kill -9 pid
[22:53] <tux97> eighty4 so hopefully before the 18 right
[22:53] <aardfox> time to delve into python
[22:53] <l_r> hello
[22:53] <Gin> !upgrade
[22:53] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - Please join #ubuntu+1 for questions about upgrading to Gutsy, and use #ubuntu for "normal" support only
[22:53] <ebirtaid> tux97: ON the 18th
[22:53] <Lifeisfunny> with all due respect; I don't have the interest in joining #python
[22:53] <s33k3rgr> can i ask questions here?
[22:53] <l_r> any news from ubuntu.com about the new isos?
[22:53] <eighty4> tux, at some point ON the 18th.
[22:53] <tux97> oh ok ty
[22:54] <runemaste644> My gnome-panel will not start after i tried to remove some stupid theme it will not get off of
[22:54] <tux97> should i wait or go ahead and get it?
[22:54] <eighty4> tux97, Fiesty was apparently mid-afternoon UTC, so...
[22:54] <lunahood> ebirtaid, thanks ... try to find out the pid :)
[22:54] <ebirtaid> lunahood:  ps -x will do it
[22:54] <mark____-> psyferre, : after u installed build-essential do modprobe -l  - and look for ar5523 or netwpn111 | then try modprobe modulename (whichever module u find) if its already loaded unload it sudo rmmod module_name and reload sudo modprobe module_name
[22:54] <psyferre> mark____-: for some reason i cannot receive PMs.  Looking for a setting on trillian that will allow it
[22:54] <warsocket> oh the gutsy release, I prefer just the download the release candidate cause on the day itself it'll take hours to download the iso
[22:54] <psyferre> mark____-: ahh, okay.. that's simple enough
[22:54] <s33k3rgr> a question....
[22:54] <eighty4> warsocket, the torrent should cope ok
[22:54] <ebirtaid> you would think
[22:55] <mark____-> psyferre, hopefully that will work mate, i have to run in a bit, got work
[22:55] <psyferre> mark__: gotcha, thanks for your help man
[22:55] <s33k3rgr> i just installed ubuntu on an external usb stick....
[22:55]  * psyferre gives mark____- a beer
[22:55] <s33k3rgr> and i want my internal hard disk to be mounted at boot time
[22:55] <Jerome_> Hi, I just installed conky, now I can't seem to click on desktop icons, I'm running AMD64 version of ubuntu... anyone have any tips?
[22:55] <runemaste644> My gnome-panel will not start after i tried to remove some stupid theme it will not get off of
[22:55] <nikin> is there any way to set the desktop to a lower level than the resolution?
[22:55] <mark____-> psyferre,  one thing u regged on ubuntuforums?
[22:55] <eighty4> s33k3rgr, have you checked your bios?
[22:55] <s33k3rgr> so i can use it as storage
[22:56] <psyferre> yup
[22:56] <ebirtaid> jerome:  are you using the proper own_window settings for your wm?
[22:56] <s33k3rgr> yep
[22:56] <mark____-> if you have any problems go to that post -http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414023 and post on there
[22:56] <Jerome_> ebird: I'm not 100% sure....
[22:56] <mark____-> il check there at work if any probs mate
[22:56] <mark____-> oke?
[22:56] <mark____-> :)
[22:56] <mark____-> laters mate
[22:56] <psyferre> mark____-: thanks!  have a good one :)
[22:56] <psyferre> cheers!
[22:56] <runemaste644> My gnome-panel will not start after i tried to remove some stupid theme it will not get off of
[22:56] <eighty4> oh sorry i only got half your question. s33k3rgr, you need to put the hard drive in /etc/fstab
[22:56] <ebirtaid> jerome_:  search the forums for beatiful conky, or read the docs; for nautilus there are certain settings necessary along with kde also
[22:56] <NemesisD> is there a way to access the run application  dialog without the alt+f2 key combination? (im using freenx)
[22:56] <mark____-> no prob, but do post if it doesnt work id like to know why and try to help=]
[22:56] <mark____-> off now
[22:56] <mark____-> *poof*
[22:56] <Jerome_> I'm just running gnome
[22:57] <ebirtaid> nemesis: open a terminal ;p
[22:57] <Jeriath> any way to share a scanner on ubuntu?
[22:57] <ebirtaid> jerome_: then you use natilus
[22:57] <s33k3rgr> and then i would be able to write to it?
[22:57] <s33k3rgr> files and stuff?
[22:57] <claws_bugs> what is the command to export the x server so i can connect from a windows box again?
[22:57] <Jeriath> like for a 3in1 thing
[22:57] <Jerome_> ebird: thank you very much though, gives me a place to start looking :P
[22:57] <NemesisD> ebirtaid, i don't want a terminal just lingering around doing nothing :P
[22:57] <runemaste644> My gnome-panel will not start after i tried to remove some stupid theme it will not get off of
[22:57] <ebirtaid> ;)
[22:57] <claws_bugs> export DISPLAY=(ip)0:0 ?
[22:57] <eighty4> s33k3rgr, if it's mounted properly in fstab
[22:57] <runemaste644> i was able to get to xchat via /usr/share/applications
[22:57] <ebirtaid> jerome_:  I think you need to set own_window to yes
[22:57] <claws_bugs> iceWM is nice window mgr
[22:57] <NemesisD> CRAP
[22:57] <NemesisD> anyone use freenx?
[22:58] <s33k3rgr> and then i would be able to write to it?yes
[22:58] <nikin> Nemesis: you can use bbrun (i use it under fluxbox)
[22:58] <srbaker> folks
[22:58] <s33k3rgr> yes
[22:58] <srmerlins> Lo, how do ya get vmware to recognize a mounted /media/iso/? only seeing removable devices.
[22:58] <srbaker> the fglrx driver isn't installed in gutsy RC by default
[22:58] <srbaker> is this supposed to be that way?
[22:58] <ebirtaid> jerome_:  http://conky.sourceforge.net/faq.html
[22:58] <eighty4> s33k3rgr, something like "/dev/hda1 /home ext3 defaults,noatime 0 0"
[22:58] <runemaste644> My gnome-panel will not start after i tried to remove some stupid theme it will not get off of
[22:58] <NemesisD> something about compiz fusion/emerald isn't playing nice with freenx, i am unable to move windows and they have no bar with minimize, maximize, close
[22:58] <ebirtaid> runemaster644:  you are not really providing a lot of information
[22:59] <ebirtaid> have you run gnome-panel from a terminal?
[22:59] <runemaste644> what other info do u need?
[22:59] <runemaste644> yes
[22:59] <runemaste644> i have
[22:59] <ebirtaid> what is the error
[22:59] <eighty4> s33k3rgr, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[22:59] <runemaste644> it does nothing
[22:59] <s33k3rgr> thanks
[22:59] <ebirtaid> are you sure the panel is not running and you just removed all the applets?
[22:59] <runemaste644> it segfaulted once cuz it couldnt find the theme
[22:59] <Reng> any of you guys know watch issue i have. the thing is that something i get random green gitch screen when opening up a video to watch. it only happen when i use 64bit but never happen in 32bit. what can be fixs about this?
[22:59] <runemaste644> im sure it is running
[22:59] <s33k3rgr> then i will be able to write to it?
[23:00] <eighty4> yes
[23:00] <runemaste644> *not running
[23:00] <zcode> runemaste644: See if you could edit one of the config files in your ~/.gconf dir
[23:00] <moDumass> hey all, trying to enable restricted drivers i get this error msg "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-new_100.14.19+<IP_ADDRESS>-14.9_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[23:00] <moDumass> "
[23:00] <ebirtaid> have you tried restoring a default theme
[23:00] <hurricaneharry> Reng: this has to do with your video codecs.
[23:00] <DJBLaCK> i have loaded ubuntu7.10 on my laptop but it takes ages when i click on install...any reason for that?
[23:00] <Reng> what codec i need to remedy this?
[23:00] <Smegzor> I can't remote to my file server atm.  I get an error from XDMCP saying maximum sessions reached.  How do I raise the limit?  Its either 1 or 0 atm.
[23:01] <warsocket> does anyone know something about adding a blueprint to launcpad?, do i have to program it myself or will someone else if he likes the idea. an if I can program parts of it will someone else help or should i first assemble my own team?
[23:01] <colbert> How do I set my sshd host keys ????
[23:02] <hurricaneharry> Reng: This happens with several of the windows codecs, no known resolution here.
[23:02] <thedonvaughn> !ssh | colbert
[23:02] <ubotu> colbert: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[23:03] <lunahood> ebirtaid, i can´t find a process that looks like a simple backup process described in the message "E: Another Simple Backup daemon already running: exiting" :/
[23:03] <Reng> i guess i have to what for gutsy to release
[23:03] <pasa> Hi all
[23:03] <Reng> hope that have the fix to it
[23:04] <ebirtaid> lunahood:  what command do you issue to run it?
[23:04] <runemaste644> ill try adding a terminal icon to my desktop and logging back in
[23:04] <pasa> Can someone help me with ubuntu please?
[23:04] <thedonvaughn> !ask | pasa
[23:04] <ubotu> pasa: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[23:04] <crafteh> what is the Super button in compiz?
[23:04] <thedonvaughn> crafteh: windows button on your keyboard
[23:04] <niekie> Your *cough*Windows*cough* key :)
[23:05] <crafteh> thanks
[23:05] <r3m0t> release party
[23:05] <r3m0t> * release party is where?
[23:05] <pasa> I installed ubunto yesterday for the first time and I can't make the printer and the dual view happen
[23:05] <r3m0t> sorry, topic was offscreen
[23:05] <AlexJTanner>  /smack
[23:05] <AlexJTanner> it's ubuntu
[23:05] <AlexJTanner> not ubunto
[23:05] <erlingre> I have problems with tvtime and a NTSC tape. I connect the VHS player with a s-video cable. The VHS is capable of both NTSC and PAL. When I select the correct input in tvtime and select NTSC as the television standard I get black and white. PAL-60 gives colors, but also flicker. Any suggestions?
[23:05] <docjay> hey all- I have an asus p5gc-vm mobo (new intel chipset) and I can't get the sounds drivers install, or the onboard NIC (running a NIC card right now that is recognized)  I'm fairly new to ubuntu and I installed the command line interface... can anyone lend me a hand with this one?
[23:05] <pasa> I read a lot but I have too much of windows and get hard time learning the new language
[23:06] <thedonvaughn> pasa: please be more specific, how are you trying to print?  what are you using?  what errors?
[23:06] <thedonvaughn> !print | pasa
[23:06] <ubotu> pasa: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[23:06] <gordonjcp> erlingre: when you're using NTSC, are you using the S-Video input?
[23:06] <hurricaneharry> Reng: You could better find a source for newer codecs...
[23:07] <lunahood> ebirtaid, i think it works now, no idea why ... i have not killed any process or something else ... just waiting and retried it since 2 hours ... but now the backup run as desired and as usual, thank you for your help and time
[23:07] <ebirtaid> k :)
[23:07] <pasa> I have samsung scx 4216f I would like so see it print something :)
[23:07] <dcordes> hi
[23:08] <kompensator_> hey, has gutsy been released already? ;)
[23:08] <ebirtaid> no
[23:08] <erlingre> gordonjcp: yes
[23:08] <dcordes> Does gnome-volume-manager inside of the livecds mount volumes automatically with "noexec"?
[23:08] <gordonjcp> erlingre: hm, weird
[23:08] <gordonjcp> erlingre: does it still do that when you use composite?
[23:08] <erlingre> gordonjcp: I don't have a composite cable
[23:08] <stan> hi to all
[23:09]  * gordonjcp eyes the spare phono cables on the bench
[23:09] <docjay> hey all- I have an asus p5gc-vm mobo (new intel chipset) and I can't get the sounds drivers install, or the onboard NIC (running a NIC card right now that is recognized)  I'm fairly new to ubuntu and I installed the command line interface... can anyone lend me a hand with this one?
[23:09] <gordonjcp> erlingre: pity you can't DCC cables, really
[23:09] <erlingre> gordonjcp: do I have to do anything special when loading the bttv module? I have tried to use -card=0 and tuner=2 (NTSC) when loading the module, but that did not hep either
[23:09] <stan> can anyone tell me when will gutsy be ready to download because the countdown is to 0 days but its not available
[23:10] <ebirtaid> the 18th people
[23:10] <dryrot> go outside, get some fresh air
[23:10] <gordonjcp> it's still 01 days here ;-)
[23:10] <stan> :(
[23:10] <PriceChild> stan, /topic
 go outside, get some fresh air <--- rofl, win :D
[23:10] <gordonjcp> is there going to be an option to turn compiz off from the command line?
[23:10] <erlingre> maybe I just have to give up, PAL tapes works great. I just have one special NTSC tape I want to capture
[23:10] <gordonjcp> erlingre: and the VCR plays back NTSC?
[23:10] <lunahood> ebirtaid, is it suggestive to upgrade to gusty during running the sbackup process ?
[23:10] <riotkittie-> i'm not getting TTYs on Dapper when i am wireless. i can bring them up with getty but then they are really wonky.
[23:10] <ebirtaid> no it shouldnt
[23:11] <ebirtaid> as far as I know
[23:11] <PriceChild> gordonjcp, it won't be enabled for cards that can't do it. If you want to turn it off, you can do system > preferences > appearance
[23:11] <PriceChild> lunahood, no
[23:11] <gordonjcp> erlingre: bear in mind that some PAL/NTSC video players don't really play back terribly good "wrong standard" video
[23:11] <gordonjcp> PriceChild: not much good that, though
[23:11] <gordonjcp> PriceChild: is there a way to do it from the command line?
[23:11] <erlingre> gordonjcp: yes, connected to a TV the VCR works well with the NTSC tape
[23:11] <lunahood> ok, then it will be a "very long night" :)
[23:11] <PriceChild> gordonjcp, why do you need that? yeah, kill compiz, start metacity I guess.
[23:11] <gordonjcp> PriceChild: because compiz is broken
[23:11] <SmoothOp> and evil
[23:11] <PriceChild> gordonjcp, Sorry I can't help you anymore.
[23:12] <gordonjcp> PriceChild: every single machine I've tried it on suffers from the "totally black window" problem
[23:12] <gordonjcp> PriceChild: sometimes right away, sometimes only after maybe 15-20 minutes
[23:12] <jamey-uk> PriceChild: pm me, it's jamey (ags) :)
[23:12] <gordonjcp> it just seems like an extremely stupid thing to do
[23:12] <gordonjcp> who on earth though it was a good idea to have some pre-alpha stuff like that enabled by default?
[23:13] <neopsyche> I dont understand thes einstallation instructions.. can someone help with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86306
[23:13] <ebirtaid> heh
[23:13] <colbert> Anyone here knowledgeable with SSH? I need to create host keys
[23:13] <colbert> the ubuntu guide doesn't have this information
[23:13] <stan> gordonjcp do you have any idea who will be the last country to wait for 0 days :D
[23:13] <squizzle> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=305
[23:13] <ebirtaid> gordonjcp:  its called gutsy because of that
[23:13] <squizzle> zomg
[23:13] <squizzle> hardy :o
[23:13] <Lord_Vader> hi
[23:13] <stan> gordonjcp where do you live :P
[23:14] <gordonjcp> stan: uk
[23:14] <hurricaneharry> reng: maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75278 will help..
[23:14] <PriceChild> gordonjcp, nvidia? Well that won't be enabled on them by default ;)
[23:14] <docjay> its gutsy out yet
[23:14] <Lord_Vader> the count down is over
[23:14] <pasa> Thanks ubotu - I'm on it... Do you know how to make dual view with ati X300 - DVI+VGA?
[23:14] <gordonjcp> PriceChild: both NVidia at home and ATI at work
[23:14] <PriceChild> docjay, /topic
[23:14] <PriceChild> jamey-uk, /msg PriceChild foo
[23:14] <eighty4> docjay, Lord_Vader - soon.
[23:14] <Lord_Vader> its gustsy ready?
[23:14] <PriceChild> Lord_Vader, /topic
[23:14] <ebirtaid> chuckle
[23:15] <loompek> morning
[23:15] <Lord_Vader> ok
[23:15] <eighty4> 'ning loompek
[23:15] <neopsyche> can someone help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86306
[23:15] <loompek> jeez.. i can't wait for 7.10...
[23:15] <loompek> i'm more excited than i was for y2k
[23:15] <loompek> :D
[23:15] <eighty4> it's only a distro :P
[23:15] <nj786> does anybody know how to install desklets?
[23:16] <neopsyche> can someone help me install a program http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86306 I dont know ho wto "compile":"
[23:16] <neopsyche> What are desklets?
[23:17] <neopsyche> nj786: what are desklets?
[23:17] <quittt> I've seen a Gnome mixed with Fluxbox
[23:17] <quittt> how do I make it?
[23:17] <niekie> neopsyche: kind of what Apple calls Widgets and Microsoft calls Gadgets.
[23:17] <neopsyche> ok
[23:17] <fabiim> hi there , can some tell what the equivalent to /etc/conf.d/net in ubuntu?
[23:17] <zcode> desklets = applets for deskbar?
[23:17] <loompek> eighty4 ya... but... i dunno.. i can't wait the new features that are promised
[23:17] <mrp3sky> hello
[23:17] <neopsyche> niekie: can you help me compile / install a prgram?
[23:17] <neopsyche> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86306
[23:17] <mrp3sky> i need some help
[23:17] <ebirtaid> desklets are widgets for your desktop
[23:17] <nj786> anyone know how to install desklets?
[23:17] <erUSUL> fabiim: /etc/network/interfaces ??
[23:17] <ebirtaid> that display information
[23:18] <neopsyche> mrp3sky: what do you need help with?
[23:18] <Kaepora> 7.10 soon!
[23:18] <ebirtaid> and gdesklets is in the repos
[23:18] <ebirtaid> along with adesklets
[23:18] <mrp3sky> when i installed java root created an icon on desktop i cant delete
[23:18] <docjay> can anyone help me install sound drivers for an asus p5gc-vm mobo?
[23:18] <loompek> neopsyche what seems to be the problem?
[23:18] <neopsyche> can anyone help me install xnview?
[23:18] <mrp3sky> any advice
[23:18] <nj786> ebirtaid: can you explain more because i am new to this desklets stuff
[23:18] <loompek> neopsyche just wget the file, extract it. chmod it and run it
[23:18] <niekie> neopsyche: Maybe I can.. but loads of text is scrolling on my screen right now.
[23:18] <neopsyche> loompek: This is the thing I want to install .. but the instructions are quite vague.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86306
[23:18] <ebirtaid> nj:  open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[23:18] <fabiim> erUSUL, tks :)
[23:18] <hurricaneharry> colbert: ssh-keygen
[23:18] <neopsyche> niekie: no problem
[23:19] <cjae_> what with this?   :-? the LUN appears to be stuck writing LBA=10h, keep retrying in 5ms........ gnomebaker
[23:19] <cjae_> 0%
[23:19] <mrp3sky> seeing i can't login as root how do i delete a file it owns on my desktop
[23:19] <claws_bugs> how hard is craigslist to copy
[23:19] <loompek> neopsyche okay.. that part of the first post... with the 'code' .. you shoul run that.. and that's it
[23:19] <eighty4> mrp3sky, press Alt-F2 and type "gksu nautilus"
[23:19] <pimp^air> hi
[23:19] <Lifeisfunny> with all due respect; I don't have the interest in joining #python
[23:20] <ebirtaid> mrp3sky: use sudo rm
[23:20] <loompek> neopsyche umm. run it in a terminal.. hopefully with full permissions
[23:20] <docjay> how can I tell what drivers are missing in a terminal window?
[23:20] <cjae_> mrp3sky, you can log in as root but ubuntuers don't recommend it
[23:20] <neopsyche> loompek: extracting gives me a tgz file
[23:20] <hurricaneharry> colbert: put the output in a file /etc/sshd/ssh_host_dsa_key or ssh_host_rsa_key accordingly
[23:20] <loompek> neopsyche run a terminal then run "sudo su -" in the window that opens... enter your password and then run wget.. etc...
[23:21] <neopsyche> how do i run it in terminal?
[23:21] <bruenig> logging in as root is pretty pointless, but enabling the root account has its purposes
[23:21] <mrp3sky> ebitraid it says files is a directory and wont delete
[23:21] <PaulEU> hello all!
[23:21] <colbert> hurricaneharry: how do I know if it's dsa or rsa ?
[23:21] <ebirtaid> logging in as root can be helpful also
[23:21] <PaulEU> I have question:
[23:21] <loompek> neopsyche applications > accessories > terminal
[23:21] <PaulEU> who anybody know, how many users downloaded ubuntu-7.04?
[23:21] <PaulEU> after release
[23:21] <ebirtaid> mrp3sky:  sudo rm -rf /path/to/file
[23:21] <neopsyche> loompek:  i already downloaded the file.. do i have to download it again using wget?
[23:21] <loompek> no you don't
[23:22] <bruenig> I have never logged in as root except in tty which I could have just sued as soon as I logged in anyways
[23:22] <neopsyche> loompek: how do i install the already downloaded file / or "run " it
[23:22] <docjay> can anyone help me install sound drivers for an asus p5gc-vm mobo?
[23:22] <colbert> hurricaneharry: ok it's id_rsa.pub that was generated... do I rename that to ssh_host_rsa_key and move it to /etc/sshd/ ??
[23:22] <loompek> but .. it's advisable you have root privileges
[23:22] <PaulEU> its possible to check?
[23:22] <neopsyche> loompek:  i have root
[23:22] <neopsyche> loompek: just not sure how i install
[23:22] <hurricaneharry> mrp3sky: start a console, # sudo rm /home/username/Desktop/file
[23:22] <kolby> can anyone help me troubleshoot why my back two speakers aren't working on my Dolby 7.1 sound system?
[23:22] <loompek> neopsyche okay.. you downloaded the file.. now extract it.. tar zxf Xn....
[23:22] <eighty4> PaulEU, it might be worth emailing someone at Canonical but i doubt they could give you an exact answer.
[23:22] <no0tic> leeet
[23:23] <neopsyche> loompek: i already extracted it by rigth clicking and extract
[23:23] <neopsyche> loompek: using gnome
[23:23] <colbert> kolby: go to #alsa they can certainly help, they did for me with that exact issue
[23:23] <quittt> !fluxbox
[23:23] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[23:23] <quittt> !fluxbox and gnome
[23:23] <srmerlins> Wierd things happen, got gISOmount but cannot find it mounted in vmware, what to do?
[23:23] <neopsyche> loompek: I now have tgz file
[23:23] <bruenig> quittt, seriously
[23:23] <neopsyche> loompek: now what?
[23:23] <kolby> colbert: aight.  thank you
[23:23] <quittt> bruenig, what?
[23:23] <eighty4> PaulEU, if it's for an article or something press-related<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:23] <bruenig> !be reasonable when you fish at the very least
[23:24] <mrp3sky> thanks hurricaneharry
[23:24] <quittt> bruenig, I've seen some screenshot with Gnome and Fluxbox at the same time
[23:24] <claws_bugs> iceWM is nicer than fluxbox or icebox
[23:24] <vvd> o days left? what does that mean
[23:24] <claws_bugs> minimalist and ncie
[23:24] <claws_bugs> nice
[23:24] <PaulEU> eighty4: no, its not for press, it was question private :)
[23:24] <bruenig> quittt, you think there is a factoid called fluxboxspaceandspacegnome
[23:24] <neopsyche> loompek: I have extracted it so what do i do now?
[23:24] <LjL> vvd: ask in #ubuntu-release-party
[23:24] <ebirtaid> quittt: use google there are numerous howtos
[23:24] <eighty4> vvd, it'll be out when it's ready. sometime in the next 24 hours :)
[23:24] <claws_bugs> why is the release so BIG?
[23:24] <neopsyche> loompek: how do i zxf Xn in gnome?
[23:24] <docjay> can anyone tell me the command I can use in SSH to tell what devices don't have drivers?
[23:24] <eighty4> claws_bugs, cause Ubuntu is awesome. fin.
[23:25] <bruenig> claws_bugs, the illusive hype that is inconsequential discrete releases
[23:25] <bruenig> good marketing tool, not nearly as exciting as being constantly up to date
[23:25] <stan> !gutsy exact release hour :P
[23:25] <hurricaneharry> colbert: you probably want a dsa key, ssh-keygen -t dsa
[23:25] <cjae_> anyone catch that
[23:25] <meeper> alright, I'm a bit desperate. I've tried dell, nvidia, envy, googling ... can't get the nvidia drivers installed. Any ideas?
[23:26] <bruenig> meeper, nvidia.com
[23:26] <meeper> bruenig: I tried that, won't let me compile the driver
[23:26] <markvandenborre> docjay, could you be more specific?
[23:26] <bruenig> meeper, you need to pay attention to what it says
[23:26] <eighty4> meeper, you might want to try the Envy project: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[23:26] <colbert> hurricaneharry: says it already exists, asking to overwrite (I have a key already in .ssh that I use to ssh into my website)
[23:26] <ebirtaid> said he tried it
[23:26] <bruenig> meeper, you probably need c headers and some other stuff
[23:26] <ebirtaid> already ;p
[23:26] <kditty> i just hooked a windows hard drive into a case to make an external hard drive and now i need to format it. the disk says read only when i try to delete files, even when i logged in as root. any help? i also need to keep this disk in windows format so i can load divx movies onto it to play through my dvd player
[23:26] <[X]treme> www.nano-host.com <---- RELIABLE WEB HOSTING
[23:26] <bruenig> !envy | eighty4 meeper
[23:27] <ubotu> eighty4 meeper: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[23:27] <meeper> eighty4: I tried to run envy, I get a 'ImportError: No module named instun' ... not sure what that means?
[23:27] <hurricaneharry> colbert: do !not! overwrite....
[23:27] <ebirtaid> what if we needed reliabe web hosting :(
[23:27] <meeper> bruenig: installed all the c headers from build-essential
[23:27] <colbert> hurricaneharry: ok I said no and it's just back to prompt
[23:28] <bruenig> meeper, not sure exactly all that you need, ubuntu strips things that every other distribution has by default like you know compilers and headers and stuff so I am not familiar with fetching these basics, but there is bound to be something out there explaining what gaps need to be filled
[23:28] <neopsyche> loompek: it says gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[23:28] <neopsyche> tar: Child returned status 1
[23:28] <neopsyche> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[23:28] <markvandenborre> docjay, you might want to look at lsmod, lspci, dmesg and related commands
[23:28] <claws_bugs> reliable web hosting
[23:28] <claws_bugs> lol
[23:28] <hurricaneharry> colbert: just save it somewhere else and after that copy it to /etc/ssh/
[23:28] <hurricaneharry> colbert: make a backup of your current host-keys !!
[23:29] <neopsyche> can anyone help me install a program?
[23:29] <colbert> hurricaneharry: ok so backup my current host-keys, then run cmd again and overwrite, then move these new keys to /etc/ssh ?
[23:29] <LjL> neopsyche: what program?
[23:29] <markvandenborre> neofax, which one?
[23:29] <neopsyche> LjL: xnview
[23:29] <markvandenborre> sorry, meant neopsyche
[23:29] <scooby2> gutsy is not even close to being ready for release
[23:29] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: im having some problems trying to install xnview
[23:30] <markvandenborre> let me google it, because I can't seem to find it in the repos
[23:30] <ebirtaid> xnview is in the repos isnt it?
[23:30] <LjL> neopsyche: what are you typing?
[23:30] <LjL> ebirtaid: no
[23:30] <lamego> scooby2, do you have a question ?
[23:30] <ebirtaid> whirred
[23:30] <hurricaneharry> colbert: just generate the keys in another place will be easyer... and then copy them to /etc/ssh, you need to backup the keys in /etc/ssh/...
[23:30] <neopsyche> LjL: What i am typing .. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86306
[23:30] <scooby2> yeah, why did bacula blow away my config files when i upgraded from feisty to gutsy?
[23:31] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, what functionality do you want?
[23:31] <markvandenborre> would a functional alternative do for you?
[23:31] <neopsyche> I want to be able to install the program .. but it is not in .deb format .. it is in tar.gz then when i unpack that extract.. it is tgz
[23:32] <lamego> scooby2, because upgrades are complex processes, you can easly reset your config files, do you know how to do it, also this is about support questions, not about bug reports, use launchpad for that
[23:32] <colbert> hurricaneharry: ok I copied my /etc/ssh/ keys to desktop for now... but when I run ssh-keygen it doesn't give an option where to generate them, it defaults to ~/.ssh
[23:32] <ebirtaid> tgz is another archive file
[23:32] <LjL> neopsyche: the link you're trying to download from doesn't exist anymore.
[23:32] <ebirtaid> extract that one also
[23:32] <ebirtaid> HAHA
[23:32] <meeper> alright here we go again
[23:32] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, so another program that will do the same thing is not ok for your use?
[23:32] <luca> hi everyone
[23:32] <scooby2> lamego: i'd give loads of dollars to get my old config files and my old /var/spool/bacula directory back
[23:32] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: no i have looked into alternatives .. there is not alternative except for this one.. compaired to irfanview.. which is not available for ubuntu
[23:32] <LjL> neopsyche: uh, actually, it does, but for some reason the site refuses to let wget access it. use a browser.
[23:33] <luca> may I ask how to disable the new brilliant featuree of having your home as your desktop also?
[23:33] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, is it any use for me to point you at possible alternatives?
[23:33] <neopsyche> LjL: I have already downloaded the program
[23:33] <meeper> alright, well something bad just happened. it's telling me to reinstall X haha
[23:33] <LjL> neopsyche: how big is the file you downloaded? (ls -l filename)
[23:33] <lamego> scooby2, people which gives loads of dollars for some data, performs backups
[23:34] <lamego> specially, before an upgrade
[23:34] <scooby2> i do perform backups
[23:34] <scooby2> asshats overwrite config files
[23:34] <lamego> scooby2, so just restore the data from your backups, if you are unable to use it, create a bug report at launchpad.net
[23:34] <eighty4>  i suppose there's a certain irony in not having a backup of your backup software...
[23:35] <neopsyche> I need a program with these features that is as easy to use as irfan view .. Rotation / RGB colour formatting/ save gifs / use 160 file formats / photoshop effects / resize / resample (multiple options for engine) and a few more features which you can look at on the IRfanview homepage
[23:35] <scooby2> i have a backup of my backup software
[23:35] <scooby2> its just going to take me hours to rewrite the configs to get them back
[23:35] <moDumass> hey all, i cant select nvidia restricted drivers from the restricted drivers manager, it errors out saying
[23:35] <moDumass> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-new_100.14.19+<IP_ADDRESS>-14.9_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[23:35] <scooby2> cause some asshat packagerr doesnt have a brain
[23:35] <moDumass> any ideas what that means?
[23:35] <lamego> scooby2, and what help do you expect get from us on such task ?
[23:35] <LM1> so... is pidgin 2.2.1 gonna make it into gutsy?
[23:35] <neopsyche> LjL: 1254351 bytes
[23:35] <lamego> besides your complains which have no use for this channel ?
[23:35] <scooby2> lamego: so how do i downgrade and get my configs back like you said
[23:35] <LM1> is there a list of the packages in gutsy currently?
[23:35] <Dr_willis> !info pidgin gutsy
[23:35] <ubotu> pidgin: graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 589 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[23:36] <pasa> I need a stupid proof guide for printer install :)
[23:36] <neopsyche> LjL: So how do i install it?
[23:36] <Dr_willis> LM1,  looks lik eit.
[23:36] <naer_dinsul> I've set up an apt-cacher server for my local intranet, but Ubuntu doesn't seem to want to upgrade to the gutsy rc through it.  Am I missing something?
[23:36] <LjL> neopsyche: troppo piccolo, il download non è completo. sono 2638621 byte.
[23:36] <lamego> scooby2, install feisty, and restore your config files from the backups that you have told us, you have
[23:36] <ebirtaid> neopsyche:  you have to unpackge the tgz file
[23:36] <neopsyche> ebirtaid: download not complete?
[23:36] <neopsyche> ebirtaid: i have unpacked it
[23:36] <ebirtaid> you said you had the file?
[23:36] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, then look at the installation instructions
[23:36] <neopsyche> ebirtaid: yes
[23:36] <neopsyche> where?
[23:37] <ebirtaid> you said a .tgz came out of the .tar.gz right?
[23:37] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: what installation instructions?
[23:37] <hurricaneharry> colbert: I need to recheck my own info, maybe somebody else can help you further.
[23:37] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: yes
[23:37] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, inside the tar archive
[23:37] <neopsyche> yes ebirtaid
[23:37] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: yes
[23:37] <ebirtaid> you have to unpackage the .tgz file
[23:37] <neopsyche> EBIRTAID: HOW?
[23:37] <lamego> scooby2, if your problem is with bacula, it maybe a problem specific to the bacula app upgrade, you could have tested it during development, it would be a bit more helpful
[23:37] <markvandenborre> click it in nautilus
[23:37] <ebirtaid> damn ok?
[23:37] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: OK
[23:37] <markvandenborre> or tar zxvf filename.tgz
[23:37] <pasa> I dont get the instruction change hear and there I dont understand what I'm doing and I'm doing something wrong
[23:37] <ebirtaid> I mean you unpackages the first one
[23:38] <ebirtaid> s=d
[23:38] <markvandenborre> but I'm telling you
[23:38] <scooby2> lamego: the package was the exact same version just minor revision difference as feisty
[23:38] <scooby2> bacula moved past this version over a year ago
[23:38] <markvandenborre> if you don't know how to unpack a tgz, you _should not_ be installing unpackaged software!
[23:38] <ebirtaid> lol agreed mark
[23:38] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: ok now i see files
[23:38] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: now what do i do with those?
[23:38] <kditty> i need to format a windows external hard drive and keep ntfs file structure, gparted has it locked and i can not reformat with that, any help?
[23:39] <ebirtaid> run ./configure
[23:39] <ebirtaid> then make
[23:39] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, you should really really try to find ubuntu packaged software first that fits your needs, but hey
[23:39] <ebirtaid> then sudo make install
[23:39] <neopsyche> kditty: you can format it using a windows XP disk.
[23:39] <ebirtaid> probably
[23:39] <markvandenborre> ...which is probably what some kind of readme.txt file will be saying
[23:39] <ebirtaid> indeed
[23:39] <ebirtaid> this is all futile
[23:39] <kditty> neo. i dont have windows xp disks
[23:39] <loompek> bah
[23:39] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: what ubuntu software would be a clone of IRfanview?
[23:39] <loompek> vista powered :D
[23:40] <kbrooks> ok, i need to talk to you all.
[23:40] <kditty> neopsyche:  i dont have windows xp disks
[23:40] <neopsyche> TONS OF PEOPLE ON THE WEB SEEM TO BE LOOKING FOR THIS FILE IN .deb
[23:40] <ebirtaid> I mean I think gimp can do all the things you want neopsycho
[23:40] <kbrooks> and right now.
[23:40] <kbrooks> THIS is very, very important.
[23:40] <ebirtaid> kbrooks no need for prefacing
[23:40] <carlhako> Hey can anyone tell me when i upgrade to gutsy will it alto upgrade /opt/ltsp environment to gutsy also? or will i need to rebuild it?
[23:40]  * eighty4 braces himself for kbrooks
[23:40] <neopsyche> ebirtaid: its neopsych-e
[23:40] <ebirtaid> I mistyped
[23:40] <carlhako> alto/also
[23:41] <neopsyche> kditty: I want a program for quick image manipulation for creating simple graphics quickly.
[23:41] <neopsyche> kditty: Gimp is higher grade.
[23:41] <awalton__> neopsyche: imagemagick?
[23:42] <ebirtaid> search the repos for image manipulation
[23:42] <awalton__> depends on whether or not you have love for the console.
[23:42] <neopsyche> awalton__: havent seen it .. but does it have a similar features / interface to irfanview?
[23:42] <awalton__> not at all.
[23:42] <alien18> hey, im new to linux, im using ubuntu feisty and i want to install beryl, but the wiki guide isnt working, where else can i get a guide please?
[23:42] <ebirtaid> lol
[23:42] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, maybe something like fspot could help you?
[23:42] <joshritger> has anyone used virtualbox lately?
[23:42] <ebirtaid> fspot might not have enough of the features
[23:42] <ebirtaid> it may work though
[23:42] <cvance> Is there a way to disable the wallpaper when using x11vnc for reverse vnc?
[23:42] <hurricaneharry> colbert: md ~/temp; ssh-keygen -t dsa ; use ~/temp/id_dsa as your output...
[23:42] <markvandenborre> it's more to the photo management side, but it may work for you
[23:42] <neopsyche> I installed 2 programs which were both terrible compaired to irfanview.. one was gview (if i remember correctly) and another Xpaint
[23:42] <kitche> alien18: sudo apt-get install beryl then in a terminal type beryl-manager
[23:42] <cvance> like a command line switch or something?
[23:42] <picard_pwns_kirk> joshritger: I used it last week
[23:42] <kbrooks> ready ... set ... go. ok, so the place which you download your packages from - there's technically only "one". even if it was spread around multiple computers, um, this is it:
[23:43] <markvandenborre> is it mostly photos?
[23:43] <markvandenborre> or more like images?
[23:43] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: I did however install KolourPaint which is quite good.. but no ability to save gif files
[23:43] <joshritger> picard_pwns_kirk: did you have any trouble installing it?
[23:43] <kbrooks> the ubuntu repoistories are not secure.
[23:43] <picard_pwns_kirk> joshritger: no
[23:43] <florin21> hy guys
[23:43] <florin21> :)
[23:43] <hurricaneharry> colbert: then you will find the 2 keys in ~/temp, those should be copied to /etc/ssh under the right names.
[23:43] <kbrooks> there,. done. i've said it.
[23:43] <markvandenborre> for photo's you might like fspot, neopsyche
[23:43] <eighty4> kbrooks, so?
[23:43] <awalton__> neopsyche: you shouldn't use gifs anymore, it's way outdated, switch to PNG
[23:43] <florin21> any one have a normal Irc
[23:43] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: I dont need it for photos. Thanks.
[23:43] <awalton__> if you want animated though.. yeah gifs still your best bet, saldy.
[23:43] <gordonjcp> florin21: a normal IRC what?
[23:43] <neopsyche> Could someone please help me install xnview?
[23:44] <loompek> neopsyche, still no luck?
[23:44] <Dr_willis> !info xnview
[23:44] <neopsyche> loompek: I need to know what to do with the files
[23:44] <ubotu> Package xnview does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[23:44] <joshritger> picard_pwns_kirk: what source did u use to install, I am following the instructions on their website and it wont let me add their key for their repositories
[23:44] <kbrooks> eighty4, so... trojan horses can happen by way of some basic intelligence and something called dns poisoning.
[23:44] <loompek> neopsyche, how far did you come?
[23:44] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, it's not because I don't want to help you, it's because I want to help you that I'm looking for alternatives
[23:44] <alien18> ok, installed, when i type beryl-manager it says: Make sure you have the 'universe' component enabled
[23:44] <eighty4> ...right. and the alternative is?
[23:44] <markvandenborre> I'm not rendering you any service by helping you install this from source
[23:44] <picard_pwns_kirk> joshritger: just download the .deb
[23:45] <neopsyche> Im surprised that this does not exist in a .deb file .. its such a cool program.
[23:45] <neopsyche> http://www.xnview.com/
[23:45] <joshritger> picard_pwns_kirk: ok I will try that
[23:45] <joshritger> thanks
[23:45] <picard_pwns_kirk> np
[23:45] <neopsyche> I have tried to download the .deb.. they are all outdated or dont work. scarce.
[23:45] <neopsyche> Tried google .. not much .. out of date and / or not downloading properly
[23:45] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, it's not free software
[23:45] <neopsyche> how so?
[23:45] <markvandenborre> that might be the reason
[23:46] <markvandenborre> free as in beer =/= free as in speech
[23:46] <Dr_willis> I perfer Free as in Love. :)
[23:46] <neopsyche> Statement from the xnview website: XnView is a free software to view, organise, convert graphics files.
[23:46] <alien18> i get this error, Make sure you have the 'universe' component enabled, how do i fix please?
[23:46] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  it depends on their exact licensing. They may not be following the GPL.
[23:46] <kitche> alien18: enable the universe repo
[23:46] <alien18> how?
[23:46] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  grab the source and compile it perhaps.
[23:46] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, you might want to try krita
[23:47] <kitche> alien18: in synaptic go to the repo option and enable it
[23:47] <kbrooks> DNS poisoning: say i provide software that actually does something, but which has a hidden DNS server and configurator. this hidden DNS server,
[23:47] <kbrooks> er
[23:47] <Gin> any one here has utorrent running on Ubuntu?
[23:47] <kbrooks> not done
[23:47] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  thers also Picassa for Linux. :) (yes it uses wine so its a bit of a cheat but it works)
[23:47] <markvandenborre> I'm fairly sure that is something that should appeal to you
[23:47] <Dr_willis> Gin,  ive ran it with wine befor.
[23:47] <Gin> Dr_willis, how was it?
[23:48] <neopsyche> Im not interested really in whether it is free beer or not.. im more interested if it will run.  Im sorry to say it .. because I really like ubuntu .. but my friends are right when they say .. although windows crashes a lot more.. it is easier to use due to amount of easily accessible programs for the platform.
[23:48] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, http://www.koffice.org/krita/screenshots.php
[23:48] <agarwood> Good evening, I just bought a USB key "usb 2.0 mobile disk" from "twinmos" ubuntu but does not recognize the connection ... The manual tells me that I must raise the key ... And finally, a user guide tells me that I need minimum "Linux kernel 2.4" ... Can you explain how to mount my key, thank you.
[23:48] <Dr_willis> Gin,  it was utorrent. :) what more do ya want.. it worked.. but i normally use Ktorrent.
[23:48] <Dr_willis> agarwood,  you are using the 2.6 kernel now. :)
[23:48] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, you are making your first steps into new territory, you should really give it some time
[23:48] <Gin> Dr_willis, did it run as good as on windows?
[23:48] <Dr_willis> agarwood,  as for 'raise' not sure what ya mean there.
[23:48] <markvandenborre> it's quite a different paradigm
[23:49] <neopsyche> can someone please help me compile/install xnview?
[23:49] <Dr_willis> Gin,  I dont use torrents under windows.
[23:49] <Dr_willis> Gin,  it ran. :)
[23:49] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, did you have a look at krita?
[23:49] <Dr_willis> Gin,  try it and see.
[23:49] <bobafet> Is gusy out yet?
[23:49] <neopsyche> can krita save gif files?
[23:49] <agarwood> dr_willis, i use ubuntu 7.04
[23:49] <markvandenborre> you can always try to find out the installation instructions
[23:49] <eighty4> bobafet, /topic (and it's out when it's ready, there's no set time)
[23:49] <joefis> all the Rc isos are gone
[23:49] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, I don't use it, but my guess is that it can
[23:50] <MoNsTeR> how do i veiw my winblows harddrive
[23:50] <joefis> checking the ftp mirrors frantically
[23:50] <AdenKarter_23343> pls i need help www.superhelp-erkan.de.ms
[23:50] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, as can the gimp, but that one clearly was too powerful/complex for your needs, if I understood you well?
[23:50] <Dr_willis> agarwood,  7.10 is due out tomorrow. :)  as for mounting it . you 'should' be able to just plug it in and it will automount/ask/show an icon on the desktop. If not - read up on manually mounting things. Check 'dmesg' output to see where its being detected as.
[23:50] <Dr_willis> !windows
[23:50] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[23:51] <davidstrauss> How can I force new directories in a certain directory to have group write permissions?
[23:51] <Dr_willis> :) doh wrong factoid.
[23:52] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: gimp is very good for my needs if i am using it for advanced editing of photos for magazine cover etc.. however .. that takes time to learn advanced techniques.. whereas a simple paint program will be fine for my needs right now.. even paintshop pro on windows .. although not quite as powerful as gimp perhaps .. I find to be more intuitive than the gimp .. with similar results.
[23:52] <hhp2k> Hey guys, what's the terminal command to install ssh?
[23:52] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, I'm trying to help you where I can
[23:52] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: Thanks I appreciate it.
[23:52] <riotkittie> hhp2k: ssh server?
[23:53] <hhp2k> riotkittie: sudo apt-get install ssh-server?
[23:53] <riotkittie> hhp2k: sudo apt-get install openssh-server i believe
[23:53] <nblracer> Hello, just had afew questions about the new Ununtu 7.1
[23:53] <hhp2k> Nice. Thanks
[23:53] <lonran> when is going to be able to download gutsy?  the counter at ubuntu.com says 00 days already
[23:53] <riotkittie> yw
[23:53] <neopsyche> I need to learn how to make an installation from a tar.gz
[23:53] <eighty4> lonran, soon.
[23:53] <hurricaneharry> davidstrauss: look at a comination of SGID bit (set group id) and probably the UMASK for the specific user.
[23:53] <nblracer> since the 3D desktop, what are the min requirments, and recommend
[23:53] <neopsyche> is it very difficult?
[23:53] <riotkittie> nobody is ever going to be able to download gutsy. ever. and if i never see that question asked again, it will be too soon
[23:53] <mdolan> is Tracker search based on Beagle?
[23:54] <Avariel> i have a couple .avi .mp3 data stored on an external harddrive under ntfs...is there any way i can get ubuntu to read the volume ?
[23:54] <davidstrauss> hurricaneharry: How do you set the UMASK?
[23:54] <agarwood> thank you dr_willis
[23:54] <nblracer> and is this update going to be pushed out?
[23:54] <gumby600m> Is there a way of downloading stable gusty (release version) today?  I dont want to fight slogs of other users downloading it tomorrow...
[23:54] <lonran> eighty4, soon in hours? today?
[23:54] <riotkittie> lonran: it will be available when it is available.  its still the 17th in some parts of the world.
[23:54] <eighty4> lonran, when it's ready.
[23:54] <mdolan> gumby600m, I got it off of a LiveDVD mirror
[23:54] <riotkittie> gumby600m: no.
[23:54] <lonran> riotkittie, thats true, its 18 here already :)
[23:54] <eighty4> gumby600m, it'll be out when it's out. there's not a set release time
[23:54] <gumby600m> mdolan: it's not a beta or release candidate, it's the actul 7.10?
[23:55] <bobafet> wget http://openssh.linux-mirror.org/portable/openssh-4.5p1.tar.gz; gzip openssh-4.5p1.tar.gz | tar -xvf -; cd openssh; ./configure; make; make install
[23:55] <mdolan> gumby600m, action 7.109
[23:55] <riotkittie> gumby600m: it's not the actual 7.10.
[23:55] <mdolan> minus the nine
[23:55] <mdolan> :)
[23:55] <riotkittie> mdolan: there's no way you have a stable, final release of 7.10.
[23:55] <mdolan> gumby600m, it's the final 7.10
[23:55] <Xion> how would i update my java on ubuntu????
[23:55] <mdolan> riotkittie, want to bet?
[23:55] <gumby600m> I just wish there was a way of "pre-downloading" it like you can pre-download games in Steam...
[23:55] <gumby600m> cause their servers are going to get nailed tomorrow
[23:55] <Xion> any one please
[23:55] <PriceChild> mdolan, please stop.
[23:55] <mdolan> guys, I'm seriously not kidding
[23:55] <minus> Err http://se.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1
[23:55] <minus>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[23:55] <riotkittie> i dont need to bet. i know.
[23:56] <minus> Why do I get that?
[23:56] <riotkittie> <drops it>
[23:56] <kitche> gumby600m: not really that's what torrents are for :)
[23:56] <hurricaneharry> davidstrauss: umask -p xxxx ( 7 complement of the right you want )
[23:56] <minus> or /why is the servers down
[23:56] <PriceChild> mdolan, Please do not give us random links which are most likely not the real erlease. It confuses users and could break mirrors.
[23:56] <Dr_willis> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.  - seems i am allready updated. :)
[23:56] <gumby600m> kitche: my internet comes through the university and torrents are painfully slow, no matter what I try (i.e. 1 kbyte/sec :(
[23:56] <psyferre_> hey, I should be able to run apt-get install build-essentials , right?
[23:56] <bottiger> what protects /etc/sudoers from being edited by anything else than visudo ?
[23:56] <mdolan> PriceChild, sorry... it is available though - I just installed it an hour ago...
[23:56] <psyferre_> that's the right command?
[23:56] <riotkittie> build-essential. drop the s, psyferre_
[23:56] <davidstrauss> hurricaneharry: thank you
[23:56] <Dr_willis> bottiger,  nothing that i know of.  - i never use  visudo
[23:56] <kitche> gumby600m: yeah throttling is starting to become a common place even for ISPs
[23:56] <Avariel> anybody know how i can read data from an ntfs external hard drive ?
[23:56] <PriceChild> !offtopic | mdolan
[23:56] <ubotu> mdolan: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:57] <eighty4> psyferre, it's "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[23:57]  * psyferre_ slaps his forehead
[23:57] <bottiger> Dr_willis: then why does it say so :S
[23:57] <psyferre_> got it :)
[23:57] <psyferre_> thanks!!
[23:57] <PriceChild> bottiger, nothing really...
[23:57] <Dr_willis> bottiger,  because its a good idea.
[23:57] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: Thank you for your help (and to all the other helpers :-) ) I have decided that Krita could very well suit my needs.. also I will need to remove all .gif images (not an open  source format) from my web template and use .png instead.  It doesnt look like krita supports .gif at least not in 1.6
[23:57] <Dr_willis> bottiger,  i am on a 1 user system. :) so it dosent matter much here.
[23:57] <SteamMachine> Hi all.
[23:57] <SteamMachine> I'm attempting to upload images from a digital camera - Kodak EasyShare C530
[23:57] <Xion> is there any good sites that can guide me through certain tasks for ubuntu
[23:57] <mdolan> PriceChild, on topic - what is the Tracker Search based on? Beagle?
[23:57] <PriceChild> Xion, help.ubuntu.com
[23:57] <cre8torx> hello
[23:58] <SirBob1701> ok so i just upgraded two computers to gutsy and the upgrade fraged the tty's on both of them.  how can i get them back?
[23:58] <PriceChild> mdolan, tracker
[23:58] <eighty4> neopsyche, be careful - some browsers don't have full PNG support
[23:58] <Xion> thnx orince
[23:58] <mdolan> hmm... never heard of it until now