[11:38] <wilee-nilee> gisli, I use synaptic to see whats in the repos in general.
[11:38] <paul_beginner> deerp I found the program on the SoftwareCenter ;D thank ya'll for the help
[11:39] <wilee-nilee> mike2135, So what is the main desktop you have and the secondary one, and whts the goal here?
[11:40] <mike2135> xmonad is the main, it's gnome by default
[11:40] <wilee-nilee> there are 3 gnome based dsktops at the least
[11:40] <mike2135> uh... 13..04
[11:40] <mike2135> how else do you mean
[11:41] <mike2135> i think it's actually unity by default
[11:41] <wilee-nilee> mike2135, Are you calling unity, the fallbacl or the gnome shell gnome?
[11:41] <mike2135> calling gnome gnome
[11:41] <mike2135> forget i said that
[11:41] <wilee-nilee> mike2135, the gnome shell in login is called gnome.
[11:42] <mike2135> oh, excuse me - no, i boot into 'text'
[11:42] <mike2135> and startx into xmonad
[11:43] <aneesh_> Is it possible to recover the files which are merged using tar command
[11:43] <aneesh_> ?
[11:43] <mike2135> aneesh_: what?
[11:43] <mike2135> perhaps tar -xvvf?
[11:44] <aneesh_> while untrarring the one folder it got merged with old folder . That time all my file got merged
[11:44] <mike2135> perhaps the "find" utility will help you ?
[11:45] <mike2135> find by date, find by name...
[11:45] <mike2135> you can also add an exec command onto the end of find, aka, "move to folder xx "
[11:45] <aneesh_> but I am not able to find my old files
[11:46] <mike2135> http://www.howtogeek.com/168164/move-files-into-one-directory-in-linux-with-find/
[11:46] <mike2135> were they overwritten?
[11:46] <aneesh_> yes :(
[11:46] <mike2135> nothing important i hope then ..
[11:47] <aneesh_> It very important files
[11:47] <mike2135> aneesh_: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11381683/how-to-recover-a-file-overwritten-with-another-in-linux
[11:47] <mike2135> you're in danger zone already
[11:47] <mike2135> fyi
[11:48] <mike2135> if it's that important, shut off and follow those instructions from a recovery disk
[11:49] <mike2135> like the guy says, if it's really really important you should be backing up
[11:53] <davi> ola pessoal sou iniciante no linux queria tira uma duvida do firewall ufw pois eu queria saber se e nessesario por regras ou pode usar so colocando ele on ?
[11:53] <OerHeks> Carraway check your connection please
[11:53] <cfhowlett> !es|davi,
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> it's portuguese
[11:53] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, d'oh!
[11:53] <wilee-nilee> !br
[11:54] <paul_beginner> i have antoher question. how can i save changes in a .conf file? the "save" button is greyd out
[11:55] <Eagleman> Is the script run by the user DoT, i am not sure since there is also a root user in the list:  http://pastebin.com/WNWpqTsL
[11:55] <wilee-nilee> paul_beginner, You have not opened the file correctly.
[11:55] <OerHeks> paul_beginner, any .conf outside your home folder, needs sudo >> sudo gedit <name.conf>
[11:55] <BluesKaj> !permissions | paul_beginner
[11:55] <paul_beginner> oh
[11:55] <paul_beginner> i see
[11:55] <paul_beginner> thanks
[11:56] <lwjack> BluesKaj: hey! it's you!: http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii191/EnvironJoe/kiss_me_TOAD.jpg
[11:56] <paul_beginner> do i just type that in the run dialog?
[11:56] <paul_beginner> or terminal
[11:57] <BluesKaj> either one
[11:57] <paul_beginner> ^^ okay
[11:57] <wilee-nilee> !ot | lwjack
[11:57] <paul_beginner> and sudo is like run as admin?
[11:58] <vmachine> can anyone recommend a good free vpn service i can use to mask my traffic...
[11:59] <Eagleman> vmachine, there are so many
[11:59] <vmachine> like?
[12:00] <vmachine> or any you recommend
[12:00] <davi> hello people am new to linux wanted to take a doubt the firewall ufw because I wanted to know if and nessesario by rules or you can use so putting it on?
[12:00] <Eagleman> i dont use them, they are all the same
[12:00] <vmachine> oh ok
[12:00] <cfhowlett> !firewalldavi,
[12:00] <cfhowlett> !firewall|davi,
[12:00] <Eagleman> Is the script run by the user DoT, i am not sure since there is also a root user in the list:  http://pastebin.com/WNWpqTsL
[12:01] <wilee-nilee> !sudo | paul_beginner
[12:02] <paul_beginner> thaaanks again
[12:02] <Awaken> sudo = superuser do or select user do? :P
[12:02] <Slart> Awaken: switch user do
[12:03] <Awaken> aha! :D
[12:03] <Slart> Awaken: it just happens to switch to the superuser by default
[12:03] <Awaken> yeah
[12:03] <Awaken> i know u can sudo into any acct
[12:03] <wilee-nilee> paul_beginner, What is it your doing in .conf?
[12:04] <Slart> Awaken: I suppose it could mean "substitute user do" as well (suggested by wikipeda)
[12:07] <Eagleman> Is the script run by the user DoT, i am not sure since there is also a root user in the list:  http://pastebin.com/WNWpqTsL
[12:07] <wilee-nilee> Eagleman, How is this related to ubuntu support?
[12:08] <Eagleman> becuase i am using ubuntu?
[12:08] <wilee-nilee> Eagleman, there is not enough context or details.
[12:09] <Eagleman> well i want to run that command as a different user, but i am not sure if it runs as a different user
[12:09] <theadmin> Eagleman: /gameservers is not a directory provided by any Ubuntu package (also a terrible idea to place your files somewhere where the FHS doesn't define)
[12:09] <wilee-nilee> Eagleman, what does this command show   lsb_release -a
[12:09] <theadmin> Eagleman: "sudo" runs stuff as root.
[12:10] <paul_beginner> in order the get the prog running i needed to define my username and save it
[12:10] <theadmin> Eagleman: Your command is... weird. Use this: sudo -u dot /gameservers/sa-mp/samp03svr
[12:10] <wilee-nilee> paul_beginner, what program?
[12:11] <paul_beginner> wilee-nilee: but its working fine now thanks again
[12:11] <Eagleman> theadmin, it needs to run in a screen as a different user, and i should be able to access it as root when using screen -ls
[12:11] <ikonia> Eagleman: access it as root using screen -ls ???
[12:11] <paul_beginner> kismet is the name
[12:11] <ikonia> Eagleman: screen has nothing to do with the user
[12:11] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: its as another user as far as I can see, not just root, if you specify a username, the command you run will be launched as that user and not root
[12:12] <theadmin> ActionPa1snip: Yes, that is correct, -u can give sudo a username to run commands as
[12:12] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: the default is root, that's all
[12:12] <Eagleman> ikonia, i cant run the screen command on the user dot, becuase i cant access ps/aux or something
[12:12] <theadmin> Eagleman: Hm. Well, anyway, according to the output you have there, the command you have does work
[12:12] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: its like su in many ways, but you use your own password as authentication, not the user you want to run as
[12:13] <theadmin> ActionPa1snip: Hey, I know how sudo works :P
[12:13] <ikonia> Eagleman: how did you become the user dot
[12:13] <Eagleman> su dot
[12:13] <ikonia> Eagleman: and that's why
[12:13] <ikonia> Eagleman: your controlling terminal will be owned by the user you did "su" as
[12:13] <Eagleman> but the user dot only has sftp access
[12:13] <theadmin> ActionPa1snip: Overcomplicating hardly ever helps the issue, that's all
[12:13] <ikonia> Eagleman: how do they only have sftp access ?
[12:13] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: you said sudo runs stuff as root, which isnt strictly true ;)
[12:14] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: bit of useful info, might help to achieve future goals
[12:14] <theadmin> ActionPa1snip: Yes, I know all that, sudo simply switches to another UID/GID to execute a command, that's all
[12:15] <Eagleman> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/gbGf0uji
[12:15] <tokern3> how can i change control file in autotest? is it possible at all?
[12:16] <ikonia> Eagleman: what am I looking at ?? what is that file ?
[12:17] <Eagleman> ./etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:17] <ikonia> Eagleman: is that a pam file ?
[12:17] <ikonia> Eagleman: how do you expect them to run screen then if they are not allowed a controlling terminal ?
[12:17] <Eagleman> well, with the command i just showed
[12:18] <ikonia> Eagleman: they stil won't have a controlling terminal, and su (without the -) will leave the enviornment, and controlling terminal - as you, the user running it
[12:18] <ikonia> Eagleman: this sounds like a real mess
[12:19] <Eagleman> ikonia, i have no clue how to do it then
[12:20] <Eagleman> Create a different user and run it as that?
[12:21] <ikonia> Eagleman: to be honest, I don't know what your trying to do / end goal
[12:21] <Eagleman> ikonia, run a script in a screen as a different user than root, so if something goes wrong in the script, the attackers dont have root rights trough the script being run as root
[12:22] <ikonia> Eagleman: ok, so launch screen as a user, and run the script
[12:22] <ikonia> Eagleman: that user must have access to the controlling tty it's using
[12:22] <ikonia> and obviously the ability to run the command "screen"
[12:23] <Eagleman> ikonia, looks like non of the non root users have access to the command screen: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/3' - please check.
[12:23] <ikonia> Eagleman: that is the controlling terminal !
[12:23] <ikonia> Eagleman: what user are you logged in as when you do "su"
[12:24] <Eagleman> so how can i switch user from root, su isnt working. a new ssh session does work, and i am able to use screen
[12:25] <paul_beginner> thanks for all the help. i'll try later on. bye
[12:25] <ikonia> Eagleman: why are you root ?
[12:25] <ikonia> Eagleman: the ubuntu setup locks root - why are you root
[12:25] <Eagleman> ikonia, i never understood this shell enviroment stuff, i always do sudo su, so i dont have to use sudo infront of every command
[12:26] <ikonia> despite you being in tihs channel a lot of the time and you see people saying "don't do that"
[12:26] <daftykins> >_<
[12:26] <chillpill_> dont do that!!
[12:26] <daftykins> Eagleman: you ought to use best practices
[12:26] <ikonia> Eagleman: simple solutions 1.) launch screen as your current user, then IN THE SCREEN SESSION su - user (note the -)
[12:26] <ikonia> Eagleman: 2.) change the ownership/permissions on the tty you are using
[12:27] <ikonia> Eagleman: 3.) login via a session and run screen as that user, so you have access to the controlling terminal
[12:27] <ikonia> Eagleman: and then stop doing sudo su
[12:27] <ikonia> any of that work for you
[12:28] <ActionPa1snip> Eagleman: you can use:  sudo -i    but sudo has a grace period meaning you will not be asked for password for a while after entering it
[12:28] <chillpill_> sudo su is not for me, say that loudly three times.
[12:28] <wilee-nilee> lol
[12:28] <Eagleman> sudo su is not for me xD
[12:29] <ikonia> Eagleman: do any of those solutions meet your needs ?
[12:29] <Eagleman> any guides around on how this enviroments work, in normal english?
[12:29] <Eagleman> ikonia, hold on trying it
[12:29] <ikonia> Eagleman: this enviorment work ?? what enviornment work
[12:30] <Eagleman> all those su and sudo command, what they do and how they work
[12:30] <ikonia> Eagleman: man su, man sudo
[12:30] <ikonia> Eagleman: can't get any clearer and easier than that
[12:30] <ActionPa1snip> Eagleman: su is to switch user, sudo allows you to run commands as other users (root by default)
[12:30] <chillpill_> or break things really fast and end up reinstalling over and over again.
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> if you don't know what you are doing
[12:31] <geekbri> you shoudl be able to use sudo to change users as well actually.  sudo -i -u <some user>  Should give you a login shell as the desired user
[12:31] <chillpill_> after about the third of forth time, all the fun has gone out if it.
[12:33] <Kartagis> Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) <--- how can I find out this card's maximum supported resolution under ubuntu?
[12:33] <chillpill_> time for my yoga class have a good one, all.
[12:34] <ikonia> Kartagis: go to intel.com and read it's spec
[12:34] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: xrandr    should show it (assuming it has a driver)
[12:34] <ikonia> Kartagis: that will tell you it's supported resolution, it may need more/less ram allocating in the bios to get diferent settings
[12:34] <ikonia> Kartagis: intel.com is your friend
[12:35] <mathnode> Does anyone know about the talk Anders Karlsson from SkySQL gave on REST API with MariaDB?
[12:35] <mathnode> sorry wrong channel!
[12:36] <pbt> !emacs
[12:36] <theadmin> Can someone either a) help me to get nVidia drivers working on Dell XPS 15Z with a resolution higher than 640x480 (:/) or B) prevent overheating when using the Intel card the same laptop also has?
[12:36] <pbt> !topic
[12:36] <adamk> ActionPa1snip: xrandr will show the maximum resolution supported by that combination of monitor and video card.  It won't show the maximum resolution supported by just the video card.
[12:36] <ikonia> theadmin: please don't say an optimus card ?
[12:36] <theadmin> ikonia: I honestly have no idea how to tell if it is one
[12:37] <ikonia> theadmin: is it one of the intel+nvidia ones, or two seperate cards, nvidia / intel
[12:37] <theadmin> ikonia: Uhm. I haven't looked inside. lspci | grep -i vga says this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6010121/
[12:38] <adamk> theadmin: Is there any option in the BIOS to disable either of the GPUs?
[12:38] <ikonia> theadmin: I don't recognise that model, I don't know if that's an optimus or not, interesting
[12:39] <theadmin> adamk: No, the BIOS setup on this machine is terrible, I hardly managed to configure the boot order :/
[12:40] <Kartagis> I can't seem to find out what the chipset is :S
[12:40] <ActionPa1snip> adamk: depends if you set your res less than max
[12:40] <xrc> looks to me like an optimus machine ( I get the same output on mine)
[12:40] <adamk> theadmin: Then it's Optimus.
[12:41] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops/Dell/XPS/15z   seen that one?
[12:41] <Kartagis> ActionPa1snip: xrandr doesn't work remotely :S
[12:41] <theadmin> adamk: Ah... Sad. I don't want to mess with Bumblebee
[12:41] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: sure it does
[12:41] <theadmin> ActionPa1snip: Ah thanks
[12:41] <adamk> ActionPa1snip: My point is that if the maximum resoluiton supported by the video card is 2048x2048, but the maximum resolution of the monitor is 1680x1050, xrandr will only list up to 1680x1050, so you are not actually seeing the maximum resolution of the video card, which is what Kartagis was asking for.
[12:41] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: export DISPLAY=0:0 xrandr
[12:42] <Kartagis> sudo xrandr
[12:42] <Kartagis> Can't open display
[12:42] <ActionPa1snip> adamk: ahh i see
[12:42] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: ^   xrandr also does not need sudo
[12:42] <Ultimate4> Hello there. Lately i was upgrading from ubuntu 11.10 to ubuntu 12.04 LTS through package manager. There are five main phases of updating:- 1. Looking for updates, 2. Downloading updates, 3. Installing updates, 4. Deleting uncompressed and downloaded packages, and 5. Restarting computer.    My computer shuts down just at the end of 3rd phase when just two or three minutes were remaining.
[12:43] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis:  export DISPLAY=0:0; xrandr     sorry
[12:43] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: works, right?
[12:43] <wilee-nilee> !eol | Ultimate4
[12:43] <MaximB> hello, does the live install cd use the hard disks in ANY way when it loads the system?
[12:43] <Kartagis> Can't open display 0:0
[12:43] <ActionPa1snip> MaximB: I believe it will use swap if some is set
[12:43] <wilee-nilee> Ultimate4, A eol upgrade does not run from that.
[12:43] <theadmin> MaximB: If you have a swap partition, it will auto-swap-on it.
[12:44] <Ultimate4> Now i can login without any problem in my new ubuntu 12.04 LTS and use any application without any problem. But i still think that there may be something that may be missing and one think i am noticing is that some 3 to 4 gb space is used by something.
[12:44] <theadmin> MaximB: Other than that, the LiveCD does not use the hard drives.
[12:44] <MaximB> ActionPa1snip: and if I have RAID but not sure what was installed before on it?
[12:45] <adamk_> Kartagis, Are you trying to find out the maximum supported resolution of the video card, or the maximum supported resolution of that particular setup (ie. that monitor and video card together)?
[12:45] <theadmin> MaximB: Eh... You'd want the alternate installer for RAID. I don't think the graphical one works with that.
[12:45] <MaximB> what could be the reason it got stuck at boot screen? (the live cd)
[12:45] <wilee-nilee> Ultimate4, can you run sudo apt-get update and pastebin all the text
[12:45] <wilee-nilee> MaximB, stuck meaning?
[12:46] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: gimme a sec, i'll make you a pic
[12:46] <Kartagis> lspci --v told me the kernel driver is i1915
[12:46] <Kartagis> -vv sorry
[12:46] <MaximB> it boots till "ubuntu boot scree" and after 3-4 min it stuck
[12:46] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/fine.png   works ok here
[12:46] <MaximB> i can move the mice and thats it
[12:46] <adamk_> Kartagis, Is Xorg running on that machine?
[12:46] <thepeopleschamp_> hi can someone help with this issue?
[12:47] <theadmin> ikonia: Okay so according to the info ActionPa1snip gave me this *is* an Optimus card. Figures it doesn't work, I'll try with Bumblebee.
[12:47] <thepeopleschamp_> im tryin to listen to www.hot97.com but the radio does not play overseas from usa, is there anyway i can do this with an app or somethin in ubuntu?
[12:47] <amal> what issue
[12:47] <wilee-nilee> MaximB, Stuck means nothing, in what way?
[12:47] <Kartagis> adamk: GNOME does, but now sure about xorg
[12:47] <ikonia> theadmin: welcome to dissapointment, I'm sorry
[12:47] <theadmin> thepeopleschamp_: Tor may help if yo use a US exit node
[12:47] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: are you running similar?
[12:47] <theadmin> ikonia: Yeah sad. Should have made sure before I bought this :/
[12:47] <thepeopleschamp_> how?
[12:47] <MaximB> wilee-nilee: it doesn't boot to the OS
[12:47] <ikonia> theadmin: sorry,
[12:47] <Kartagis> similar?
[12:47] <MaximB> no erros
[12:47] <theadmin> thepeopleschamp_: Uh... I have written up a guide on askubuntu.com, let me find it.
[12:48] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: similar commands to mine
[12:48] <thepeopleschamp_> i so want that station beein played in a media player stored in my system, is that possible?
[12:48] <thepeopleschamp_> cool
[12:48] <wilee-nilee> MaximB, like a black screen?
[12:48] <theadmin> thepeopleschamp_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/312692/howto-run-tor-and-vidalia-on-ubuntu-easily-browse-and-im-anonymously/312693
[12:48] <MaximB> no, the ubuntu loading screen\]
[12:48] <theadmin> thepeopleschamp_: That's about it. If it doesn't work automatically, add ExitNodes us to torrc.
[12:48] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: as those clearly work via ssh
[12:49] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: meaning it can be ran remotely
[12:49] <wilee-nilee> MaximB, Have you checked the sum or tried running the check disc there?
[12:49] <Kartagis> ActionPa1snip: I get "Can't open display 0:0
[12:49] <Kartagis> "
[12:49] <theadmin> Anyway, rebooting time. Hope this works.
[12:49] <MaximB> the disk is fine as i've used it to install on other machine
[12:49] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue    on the server?
[12:50] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: and does it have a running x server?
[12:50] <wilee-nilee> MaximB, Heh, famous last words
[12:50] <Kartagis> ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[12:50] <Kartagis> GNOME is running, but not sure about x
[12:50] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: not sure then, but it can be ran remotely via ssh
[12:50] <MaximB> wilee-nilee: yes but that was yesterday
[12:50] <adamk_> Kartagis, And, if the X server is running, is someone logged into it, or is it sitting at the login screen.
[12:50] <MaximB> it can't break up in 1 day
[12:50] <ActionPa1snip> Kartagis: gnome will need X to run
[12:51] <wilee-nilee> MaximB, The problem here is no actual details.
[12:51] <MaximB> but i have none
[12:51] <Kartagis> adamk: it's logged in, I left it that way
[12:51] <MaximB> no error msg,no output
[12:52] <free_mind> Hello everyone. I have a question regarding shutting down of a computer. I could be wrong, but is the bios of the computer responsible for the definitive execution of the shutdown to the hardware? So the operating system gives in the last the instructions to the bios 'you may shutdown'. Is this correct?
[12:52] <adamk_> Kartagis, OK, well I have no idea why xrandr won't work then..  But if you want to know the maximum resolution you can get working on your machine, you can also check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.  Bear in mind that you actually asked for the maximum supported resolution of your video card, which is not necessarily the same thing as the maximum supported resolution on that particular machine.
[12:53] <theadmin> Okay, yay, bumblebee works. The only sad part about this is that I'm using an out-of-the-repos driver which is kinda worrying.
[12:53] <theadmin> Thanks ikonia and ActionPa1snip
[12:53] <Kartagis> adamk: sorry, I didn't see your question earlier. I'm trying to get it up to 1366x768 so that it shows full screen when I hook it up to a TV
[12:54] <adamk_> Kartagis, If the TV isn't currently hooked up, then all this work is pointless.
[12:54] <Kartagis> adamk: if I can get it to that resolution, I can hook it up
[12:55] <free_mind> Or is this the wrong channel for my question ;)
[12:55] <Kartagis> adamk: what am I looking for in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[12:55] <adamk_> Kartagis, That's not how X works :-)  Each video output port is controlled separately by X.  Getting 1366x768 on a port that doesn't have the TV hooked up has no bearing on whether or not 1366x768 will work on the port with the TV.
[12:56] <daftykins> free_mind: we support Ubuntu, not do your computer homework :)
[12:56] <free_mind> daftykins: well the computer runs Ubuntu...
[12:56] <daftykins> free_mind: doesn't count :)
[12:56] <Kartagis> adamk: so I should work with the TV hooked up?
[12:57] <free_mind> daftykins: well thanks for the pointer to start doing my homework then.
[12:57] <adamk_> Kartagis, That's what I'm saying, yes.
[12:58] <adamk_> Kartagis, Then, if Xorg doesn't detect the proper resolution for the TV, we can use xrandr to create a modeline and force that port to use that modeline.
[12:58] <Kartagis> adamk: I've hooked it up before, and confirmed that it doesn't go beyond 1260 something
[12:58] <Kartagis> adamk: also checked resolution settings
[13:00] <adamk_> Kartagis, OK, so hook up the TV again and force X to use the resolution you want: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[13:02] <Kartagis> adamk: is it even possible that X doesn't detect my maximum supported resolution even if I have the line Modes     "1366x768" "1280x800" "1024x768" "800x600" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[13:03] <Kartagis> adamk: and I don't have 1366 anywhere in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:07] <spartan2276> Hello, I know this is a Ubuntu Channel, but does anyone know the name of a public IRC PHP channel that does not requires an Invite?
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> spartan2276  type    /msg alis list *php*    <-- with the asterisks
[13:08] <spartan2276> where do I type this?
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> spartan2276  here in the channel, a new window will open
[13:08] <Kartagis> spartan2276: ##php
[13:08] <k1l> !alis > spartan2276
[13:09] <babilen> spartan2276: You have to be registered with nickserv if you want to join ##php -- See "/msg nickserv help register" for details
[13:09] <BluesKaj> usually the server text is best
[13:09] <babilen> spartan2276: Ask in #freenode if you require further IRC related help - This isn't really on-topic in this channel.
[13:10] <yalan_dunya> <<<<mrb_hoşgeldin_tatlı_melek<<<<<<
[13:10] <Kartagis> spartan2276: +r and +i are not even close
[13:10] <spartan2276> Ok thanks guys, sorry for being off-topic but need some serious PHP help.
[13:11] <babilen> spartan2276: Yes, register an account on IRC (ask in #freenode if you have problems doing that), identify to it and join ##php
[13:11] <theadmin> spartan2276: <?php echo phpinfo(); ?>. That's pretty much all this channel could help with ;) Go to ##php -- register first.
[13:11] <Kartagis> spartan2276: it would take you 10 secs to register
[13:11] <spartan2276> ok thanks
[13:12] <xeon123> My network interfaces start at eth2. It should start at eth0. Why this happens?
[13:12] <Kartagis> remember that most channels on freenode require that you be identified with nickserv
[13:12] <babilen> xeon123: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[13:12] <Kartagis> xeon123: edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and reboot
[13:13] <Kartagis> spartan2276: remember that most channels on freenode require that you be identified with nickserv
[13:13] <babilen> No need to reboot, running "udevadm trigger" and/or reloading the modules should be enough.
[13:14] <adamk_> Kartagis, Listing modes in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't do much of anything these days.
[13:14] <tata> what I need to install for play MP4 sound? I have video but audio is missing
[13:15] <BluesKaj> tata, try VLC
[13:16] <tata> I prefer gnome player!
[13:16] <Kartagis> tata: or make sure the file is not actually missing audio
[13:16] <k1l> tata: you got the codecs?
[13:16] <free_mind> BluesKaj: no, try mplayer ;)
[13:16] <tata> what codec is for mp4?
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> tata  try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:18] <k1l> tata: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[13:18] <BluesKaj> free_mind, mplayer is ok , but I have 2 soundcards , so i need more control , mplayer isn't as flexible as VLC
[13:19] <BluesKaj> mp4 is apple/mac codec
[13:19] <tata> ok I try with restricted....
[13:19] <tata> thanks
[13:20] <burg> i have just installed ubuntu server 12.04 lts, but i do not have an internet connection. and there is no light on the network port when i insert the utp cable. ifconfig only shows lo entry
[13:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyo, don't suppose anyone here knows how to extract icons from a MSVC .res
[13:20] <daftykins> burg: have you identified what your LAN chipset is?
[13:20] <compdoc> burg, its not seeing your nic. does the command lspci show it?
[13:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> file? I'm looking to convert a windows icon theme to a theme for ubuntu
[13:21] <burg> compdoc, lspci shows: Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Device e091 (rev 13)
[13:22] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: There's an app called "Resource Hacker" that may help. It's for windows, but might run under Wine.
[13:24] <BluesKaj> burg, that's probly the wifi card , try this for ethernet , lspci | grep -i net
[13:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: heh, I've used that before, but iirc it only functions on windows PE exe/dll files
[13:24] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Hm says it works with .res
[13:24] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Give it a try? Who knows.
[13:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: just found something, giving that a shot. Never hurts to try, eh?
[13:26] <burg> BluesKaj, i do not have a wifi card
[13:26] <daftykins> BluesKaj: atheros do wired too ;)
[13:27] <BluesKaj> burg, ip a | grep eth0
[13:27] <varunendra> burg, to exactly identify your card and possibly the driver in use (if there is any) - "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"
[13:27] <burg> BluesKaj, just rebooted the computer and now it won't start anymore (black screen). it is a new server install
[13:29] <ActionPa1snip> burg: add the boot option: nomodeset
[13:29] <burg> ActionPa1snip, already tried that, but i still get the black screen
[13:30] <penelope> Hello all
[13:30] <BluesKaj> burg, did you install a desktop with the server ?
[13:31] <penelope> I have totally screwed up my desktop (think I deleted it)
[13:31] <burg> BluesKaj, no. just ubuntu 12.04 server edition
[13:31] <free_mind> BluesKaj: never tested two sound cards at the same time... so you might be right.
[13:31] <wilee-nilee> penelope, We need some details is all.
[13:32] <penelope> welee-nilee -bless you, okay give me a minute and I will type it all (I'm slow)
[13:33] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Guess so :)
[13:33] <wilee-nilee> penelope, Direct it to the channel is all not specifically me, is all.
[13:33] <BluesKaj> free_mind, i use an m-audio pci as card0/default , and the hdmi output from the mobo audio chip as card1
[13:34] <jephb> hi
[13:34] <daftykins> hi
[13:34] <free_mind> BluesKaj: what's the benefit from that?
[13:35] <penelope> I'm new but was getting Mint up, running and looking good  I think in my exuberance I decided i had a lot of programs I don't need and I believe I took off the gnome-cinnomon desktop.  I now get an error booting up that says "gnome session-cinnamon2d not found
[13:35] <burg> varunendra, i will install ubuntu server again (actually i got an error when installing, maybe that is the cause) and i will come back with the network issue. i believe it is not possible to install the network driver, if missing, while installing the server, right?
[13:35] <burg> varunendra, to also have internet connection while installing
[13:35] <wilee-nilee> penelope, mint is not supported here is all.
[13:35] <penelope> Like I said, I'm new at this.  On the upside (maybe) I also have zorin installed.  Is there a way I can put necessary files back in Mint from Zorin?
[13:36] <ActionPa1snip> penelope: zorin is also not ubuntu
[13:36] <wilee-nilee> penelope, This is ubuntu support only, you need to go to their channels for help. ;)
[13:36] <ActionPa1snip> penelope: neither mint nor zorin are supported here
[13:36] <free_mind> penelope: maybe do a ddg.gg search for: installing desktop environment mint
[13:37] <^rcaskey> hey all, is the "Advanced VPN" on the Galaxy 4S stock android? Is there a way to tell it to not use the remote getway by default?
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> penelope  you're not in the right channel
[13:37] <penelope> I just downloaded this chat in ZOrin, it didn't have a chat.  Ok, I guess I can't get to Mint from here?
[13:37] <^rcaskey> bah wrong channel
[13:37] <^rcaskey> :P
[13:37] <k1l> ^rcaskey: i think you want the android channel
[13:37] <k1l> !mint | penelope
[13:38] <penelope> freemind -thank you.  Sorry people :-(
[13:38] <wilee-nilee> penelope, You might consider installing ubuntu it has much better support, the ubuntu forums supports all OS though.
[13:38] <BluesKaj> free_mind, my wireless headphones don't work with multi channel (above 2) digital signals , and the hdmi audio loops back from my tv as pcm , which works
[13:38] <varunendra> burg, I'm not familiar with server installation process, but if you have internet connection while installing, then you maybe able to install the driver during the installation by choosing to 'install third party applications & proprietary drivers' if such an option is available.
[13:40] <penelope> wilee nileee - my computer is to old..I had Ubuntu 10 and Pi8nguy..they couldn't take my Nvidia card
[13:40] <penelope> Pinguy
[13:40] <thebishop> has anyone worked around the problem with gnome-terminal resizing itself when another window takes focus?
[13:40] <jephb> i have something i don't understand in  samba file server. when i am configuring samba file server and assume i have 10 computer running windows 7 and they have to have  access with diferent level of permission on a given folder how do i need to create those 10 users on the server so that whoever want a file on the  server will connect from the client running windows using the username i have create on the server or the users are those create on windows machine
[13:40] <jephb> and already exist
[13:40] <burg> varunendra, i don`t have an internet connection because i don`t have the driver
[13:40] <free_mind> BluesKaj: ah okay. Although wireless headphones wouldn't be my choose... I prefer wired. :)
[13:40] <wilee-nilee> penelope, All the drivers in those other OS will run in ubuntu.
[13:41] <wilee-nilee> penelope, You just have to know how to load them, they are ubuntu derivatives, and linux.
[13:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: hehe, I coulda sworn this only opened pe exe/dlls, lol. Reshacker did it for me, but I was hoping for some command line utility, makes batch conversion far simpler ;)
[13:42] <BluesKaj> free_mind, wireless 'phones have come a long way , my sennheisers have excellent sound
[13:42] <wilee-nilee> penelope, Those OS are basically for a little easier plug and play environment.
[13:42] <mike2135> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/mark-shuttleworth-its-ok-to-customize.html
[13:43] <mike2135> WTF
[13:43] <penelope> It seemed to be a problem with the Nvidia drivers but I'm getting another computer Christmas so maybe then...
[13:43] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: That is true. The only one close I know is cabextract but as you can guess...
[13:43] <k1l> !ot | mike2135
[13:43] <wilee-nilee> !language|mike2135 acronyms are not allowed
[13:43] <mike2135> excuse me
[13:43] <varunendra> burg, then just finish the installation first. Make sure the installation source itself is intact (check md5sum etc.), and hopefully the rest of the fix shouldn
[13:44] <varunendra> shouldn't be difficult.. burg
[13:44] <burg> varunendra, thanks. i`ll be back when i finish the installation
[13:44] <varunendra> best of luck ! :)
[13:44] <penelope> okay, I'm off to find people who have walked in my shoes..Adios, thanks wilee
[13:45] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[13:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> really wish broadcom would get off their collective duffs and provide a driver for my fingerprint scanner XD
[13:48] <theadmin> I really like how the Unity launcher adapts its' color to my desktop background. Is there, perchance, a way to do the same with window borders and such?
[13:48] <theadmin> I guess not, since Unity doesn't deal with Compiz that deeply...
[13:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone given unity a go in 13.04? I'm considering switching to it in order to take advantage of multitouch (4 points ftw!) on this device, but I wasn't a fan of unity in precise.
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> ntzrmtthihu777  unity is the default
[13:50] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, unity is a plugin in compiz
[13:50] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: It's pretty much exactly the same as in Precise except a few polishments.
[13:50] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: Yeah I know, this is why I figured :D
[13:50] <wilee-nilee> I figured you did. ;)
[13:51] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, There is the unity-tweak tool
[13:51] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: I don't think it deals with the window manager?
[13:52] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, It will alter the de but its just a limited gui
[13:53] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: Yeah I suppose, lol anyway, doesn't really matter. Does Unity have any third-party themes somewhere, except the default Ambiance/Radiance?
[13:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> MonkeyDust: I know, lol. which is wy I use xfce
[13:54] <convoi> welcome to xubuntu ^^
[13:55] <daftykins> you do everything at xubuntu
[13:55] <daftykins> *anything - anything at all
[13:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> convoi: yep, that's my current flavour of choice, but if unity is a bit better for this multitouch I'll maybe swap.
[13:55] <chxane> How do I uninstall everything associated with ubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu server? I want to make it console only like originally and I have done apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop but it is still booting to desktop and login.
[13:56] <Ari-Yang> if you have problems with Unity, just try out a different DE *shrugs*
[13:56] <theadmin> chxane: This is going to be a LONG command, so I'll pastebin it.
[13:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> chxane: ubuntu-desktop is only a metapackage, it just requires everything else for you.
[13:56] <wilee-nilee> chxane, Thats a backwards method.
[13:56] <Ari-Yang> I tried gnome, cinnamon, and E17
[13:56] <ActionPa1snip> chxane: uninstall xorg and the rest will be marked for removal
[13:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> chxane: yeah, its huge XD
[13:56] <ActionPa1snip> Ari-Yang: unity isnt a de
[13:56] <chxane> theadmin, ok
[13:56] <theadmin> chxane: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6010373/
[13:56] <Ari-Yang> ActionPa1snip, I  know, neither is E but I included it in the list XD
[13:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> chxane: yeah, psycocats has the command :P
[13:56] <convoi> tôi buồn
[13:57] <ActionPa1snip> Ari-Yang: unity is a shell for gnome. when you use ubuntu, you are using the gnome de
[13:57] <ActionPa1snip> Ari-Yang: ;)
[13:57] <Ari-Yang> mmmmhmmm
[13:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> yep, its just a compiz plugin
[13:57] <chxane> wilee-nilee, yeah I installed the desktop initially but this computer is too slow to handle some applications I am running on the desktop anyway so going to make it go back to terminal only
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> chxane  try sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:57] <Ari-Yang> !autoremove
[13:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> MonkeyDust: won't do it. You gotta use that huge command above :P
[13:57] <Ari-Yang> derp
[13:57] <chxane> it's a POS dell pentium 4 I use to do web dev
[13:57] <convoi> my laptop is so hot when using linux
[13:58] <chxane> ty theadmin
[13:58] <Ari-Yang> convoi, what graphics card do you have?
[13:58] <Ari-Yang> erm
[13:58] <Ari-Yang> convoi,
[13:58] <Ari-Yang> what graphics card do you have, convoi ?
[13:58] <convoi> ATI Radeon HD 3470
[13:59] <ActionPa1snip> convoi: grab the driver from the fglrx legacy ppa
[13:59] <ActionPa1snip> convoi: known issue
[13:59] <Ari-Yang> convoi, using open source driver or AMD's proprietary fglrx?
[13:59] <Ari-Yang> chxane, just so you know what autoreomve does http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZMvRGF8Y
[13:59] <Ari-Yang> convoi, also, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:59] <convoi> I'm using AMD driver within xubuntu
[14:00] <ActionPa1snip> convoi: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[14:01] <Ari-Yang> convoi, most likely you are using the open source driver, which doesn't have proper DPM (dynamic power management), so your laptop will run hot like how mine used to. I installed a mainline kernel and added the boot parameter radeon.dpm=1 to enable proper dynamic power management and my laptop doesn't run hot anymore with open source drivers
[14:01] <chxane> theadmin Ari-Yang  I am getting this back and it doesn't remove anything http://paste.ubuntu.com/6010388/
[14:01] <convoi> here it is, Action
[14:01] <convoi>   *-display UNCLAIMED
[14:01] <convoi>        description: VGA compatible controller
[14:01] <convoi>        product: RV620 [Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series]
[14:01] <convoi>        vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI
[14:01] <convoi>        physical id: 0
[14:01] <FloodBot1> convoi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:01] <convoi>        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
[14:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> pastebin fail
[14:01] <DougsTech> hello
[14:01] <theadmin> chxane: Then that's for the wrong Ubuntu version, which do you have?
[14:02] <Ari-Yang> so you can do what I do convoi and install a mainline kernel, or you could try out fglrx (which has horrible 2d acceleration and glitches but it may work out for you)
[14:02] <chxane> theadmin, 13.01
[14:02] <burg> varunendra, Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. Device [1969:e091] (rev 13) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device [1462:7758] PCI bridge [0604]: AsMedia Technology Inc. ASM1083/1085 PCIe to PCI Bridge [1b21:1080] (rev 03)
[14:02] <bean> thats not a version chxane
[14:02] <burg> this is the output for lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net
[14:02] <bean> do you mean 13.04
[14:02] <theadmin> chxane: Wat
[14:02] <chxane> bean, yes sorry
[14:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> question: is ubuntu 13.04 using mir already?
[14:02] <chxane> 13.04
[14:03] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: No, it's under heavy development in the Saucy branch atm
[14:03] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Will be the default in 13.10
[14:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: =_= oh the pain
[14:04] <burg> varunendra, also sudo lshw -C network outputs: network UNCLAIMED
[14:04] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Why? Nothing wrong with Mir, in my opinion. Xorg is awkward in modern environments.
[14:04] <convoi> I used xubuntu 12.04 with Jupiter, it still not overheat until when i upgrade to 12.10. desktop resolution was wrong and laptop overheating
[14:04] <varunendra> burg, taking a look, please stand by...
[14:06] <stuartsierra> A mystery: yesterday, for a few hours, apt-get couldn't find "build-essential" failed on Ubuntu "Precise" on EC2. Today it works fine.
[14:07] <Ari-Yang> convoi, AMD HD3000 series should run cool with the open source driver and fglrx, you said so yourself you were fine on 12.04 until upgrading to 12.10, so it's a 12.10 kernel bug
[14:08] <convoi> ok i see, thank Ari
[14:08] <Ari-Yang> convoi, you can download and install http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-next/
[14:08] <convoi> oh
[14:08] <Ari-Yang> and add the grub boot parameter radeon.dpm=1
[14:09] <netlar> Is there a built in equalizer for Ubuntu?
[14:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: but I like xorg =3=
[14:09] <theadmin> netlar: None that I know of, no
[14:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> holy crap installing ubuntu-desktop takes forever and a day XD
[14:10] <Ari-Yang> convoi, are you running on a 64bit or 32?
[14:10] <convoi> my grub: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash pcie_aspm=force"
[14:10] <convoi> 32bit, Ari
[14:10] <netlar> theadmin: What is a good one to get, any recommendations?
[14:11] <varunendra> burg, the device is not natively supported in Linux yet. One possible solution maybe using the windows driver with "ndiswrapper", but I'm not sure yet. Please take a look at this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2003542
[14:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> netlar: pavucontroll may be of use to you.
[14:11] <chiques> Has anyone installed the latest version of Ubuntu on an Asus high end laptop running Windows 8 Pro?
[14:11] <Ari-Yang> convoi, just a moment....
[14:11] <netlar> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks
[14:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone here us remina? how does it compare to, say, teamviewer on windows?
[14:13] <somsip> ntzrmtthihu777: it did the job for me when I need to admin a Win* VM in a cloud. I didn't feel overly attached to it though.
[14:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> somsip: can you use it to connect to windows pcs?
[14:14] <lesser_panda> Ah, good morning all.
[14:15] <convoi> 21:15 here
[14:15] <segads> vhello there
[14:15] <convoi> good evening lesser
[14:15] <segads> i need a little help for ubunto server
[14:15] <segads> ubuntu
[14:16] <stuartsierra> And now it happens again. One successful, then on a second EC2 instance, running an Ubuntu Precise AMI, "Package build-essential is not available." Any suggestions?
[14:17] <varunendra> burg, looks like I was wrong.. the device does seem to be supported by the linux driver "alx" (reading the same thread, and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2008332)
[14:18] <convoi> stuartsierra, you should select best server in software sources and try to update again
[14:18] <lesser_panda> So I am a recent convert (huzzah!) and I'm all excited to dive into the meat-and-potatoes of using Linux, specifically Ubuntu. I was curious if there were any recommended resources out there.
[14:18] <segads> hello
[14:19] <segads> can someone help me with ubuntu server
[14:19] <segads> the static ip configuration
[14:19] <stuartsierra> convoi: OK, thanks. This is an automated remote build using Packer. Do I need to modify sources.list or some other config?
[14:19] <somsip> stuartsierra: it might be that the designated repo server for that AWS region/however-it-works is problematic
[14:19] <burg> varunendra, and how do i enable it?
[14:20] <stuartsierra> somsip: I was starting to wonder about that. `apt-get update` reports it's hitting archive.ubuntu.com
[14:20] <somsip> stuartsierra: I'm surprised. I'm sure my precise AWS servers hit an AWS URL
[14:20] <stuartsierra> I didn't save the logs from the successful run, so I don't know if it was using a different server that time.
[14:21] <somsip> stuartsierra: like:  http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[14:21] <stuartsierra> Maybe it has something to do with which AWS Availability Zone the instance starts in?
[14:21] <stuartsierra> somsip: Yes, I've seen that before too.
[14:21] <varunendra> burg, which version of Ubuntu are you using? I think the 13.04 kernel already contains the required driver.
[14:21] <somsip> stuartsierra: looking at the URL, it seems so. I usually find AWS repos are fast and up to date
[14:21] <burg> varunendra, 12.04 lts
[14:21] <Ari-Yang> convoi, sorry for going afk, my internet is acting up :/
[14:22] <convoi> segads, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/
[14:22] <Ari-Yang> convoi, so get the kernel image that is suited for your OS from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-next/ (get the one that was released today, 2-21)
[14:22] <varunendra> burg, then you will have to build the driver. See if you can follow this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2008332
[14:23] <stuartsierra> somsip: So maybe I need to force apt to use a particular package server.
[14:23] <Ari-Yang> convoi, you can grab the headers too in case you will be building kernel modules etc.
[14:23] <convoi> get both of linux-image and linux-header? Ari-Yang
[14:23] <convoi> ok
[14:23] <Ari-Yang> convoi, you don't need the header really, but you ofc need the image to boot into the new kernel
[14:23] <somsip> stuartsierra: I have no experience using that. If you are doing a lot of data transfer and you use a repo out of your region you will pay more data transfer costs IIRC, but for simple updates it's not going to amount to much
[14:23] <somsip> s/using/doing
[14:24] <Ari-Yang> like you can just download the image (that's 32bit, not the 64bit one), install, then reboot
[14:24] <stuartsierra> Hm. All 4 instances started in the same AWS Zone. 1 worked, 3 didn't.
[14:24] <somsip> stuartsierra: all the same repo URL?
[14:24] <convoi> ok Ari-Yang, i'm trying
[14:24] <varunendra> burg, for detailed step-by-step help, if you need it, a thread in Ubuntu Forums would be the best idea. If you create a thread there, don't forget to post your hardware details and a link to the above thread for reference.
[14:24] <stuartsierra> somsip: That's what I don't know. I didn't keep that log.
[14:24] <Ari-Yang> convoi, after downloading it, install it, then add radeon.dpm=1 to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT of the grub file (/etc/default/grub)
[14:25] <Ari-Yang> you can place it right after your other parameter, just make sure you leave a space between the two. after that run sudo update-grub then reboot
[14:25] <somsip> stuartsierra: compare /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:25] <stuartsierra> The actual file contents should to be the same, since all the instances started from the same image.
[14:26] <adam5637> ..
[14:27] <Ari-Yang> convoi, after you update, come back here on IRC #ubuntu channel and tell me how it goes
[14:27] <convoi> ok Ari-Yang, thank you. you really thoughtful
[14:27] <somsip> stuartsierra: I agree.
[14:27] <oliphant>  I installed ubuntu with win 7
[14:28] <oliphant> and am unable to boot into windows
[14:28] <stuartsierra> I'm going to try launching an instance from the base Ubuntu image and see what is there.
[14:28] <oliphant> the grub loader lists win 7 but it does not boot
[14:28] <oliphant> i tried boot-repair but still the same
[14:28] <Ari-Yang> convoi, happy to help, and this is what your line should look like GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash pcie_aspm=force radeon.dpm=1"
[14:28] <convoi> ^^
[14:29] <Ari-Yang> you installing it now?
[14:29] <convoi> i'm downloading
[14:29] <Ari-Yang> ah
[14:29] <Ari-Yang> the one for 32bit, yes?
[14:29] <convoi> yes
[14:29] <oliphant> any suggestions i havent deleted the windows partitons
[14:29] <Ari-Yang> convoi, nice, (which wouldn't be the one marked as amd64)
[14:30] <oliphant> here is the boot-repair log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6010379/
[14:31] <BluesKaj> oliphant, I have to ask , have you run sudo update-grub since booting into ubuntu?
[14:31] <convoi> anyone from vietnam? ^^
[14:32] <oliphant> no i installed the boot-repair app the moment i figured that I wasn't able to boot in win7
[14:32] <BluesKaj> oliphant, are you on the live-media or are you booted into ubuntu ?
[14:32] <Ari-Yang> convoi, (I missed any msgs you sent after my latest one because I d/ced)
[14:33] <wilee-nilee> oliphant, YOU have installed grub in the windows boot, follow this link. http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[14:33] <oliphant> right now i am booted into ubuntu but i can boot through the usb
[14:33] <wilee-nilee> oliphant, sda2 shows grub there.
[14:34] <convoi> nothing important Ari-Yang, i just blah blah blah ^^
[14:34] <Ari-Yang> ah okay :b
[14:35] <convoi> anyone from vietnam giơ tay lên!!! ^^
[14:36] <meenal> Hi, my ubuntu login screen is freezed , the rescue terminal still works , I tried "sudo apt-get update && sudo dist-upgrade" , as suggested in one of the online forums, but it does not work for me . Can someone please suggest a fix.
[14:36] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: can you type at all?
[14:37] <meenal> ActionPa1snip : in the homescreen I can type in the password, but then the mouse pointer and the screen freeze
[14:37] <meenal> I can enter into the rescue terminal and type stuff there
[14:37] <convoi> OMG, my laptop temperature is 96 C now, it'll shutdown at 100 C
[14:37] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: can you log in as guest>
[14:37] <BluesKaj> oliphant, did you run sudo update-grub ?
[14:38] <oliphant> wilee-nilee: i have a partition with windows recovery on it and the other with windows which one should i choose when running testdisc
[14:38] <meenal> ActionPa1snip, let me try doing that
[14:38] <convoi> 99 C... goodbye!
[14:38] <wilee-nilee> oliphant, sda2 is where the problem is
[14:39] <wilee-nilee> sda2 is C
[14:39] <meenal> ActionPa1snip, i can enter into guest but that too freezes on entering
[14:40] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: try a different session type
[14:40] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: preferably one without compositing
[14:40] <meenal> ActionPa1snip:  Looks like the keyboard works fne , its the cursor thats freezing out
[14:41] <meenal> should I try a different session type for that too ?
[14:41] <Ari-Yang> convoi, you going to reboot?
[14:41] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: try unplugging and replugging in the mouse one you log in (I assue you use a usb mouse)
[14:41] <stuartsierra> Interesting. On the AMI I'm using, /etc/apt/sources.list is written by cloud-init on startup.
[14:41] <meenal> ActionPa1snip: I work on a laptop, not sure if thats an option here :\
[14:41] <stuartsierra> Maybe my Packer script is running before cloud-init finishes.
[14:42] <meenal> nope , no usb mouse
[14:42] <newp> Hey folks, I'm back with yet another problem I've never countered or know how to fix.
[14:42] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: do you have a usb mouse?
[14:42] <stuartsierra> That might explain the inconsistent failures.
[14:42] <meenal> ActionPa1snip: No
[14:44] <Sna4x8> After a recent update, my sound hiccups like crazy.  Any input on how to fix the problem?
[14:44] <calwig> Hi, how can a print job be sent via CLI
[14:44] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: install xfce4 and log in to that session, is it better?
[14:44] <newp> when booting up, after selecting the kernel/operating system I want to boot into, when I select Ubuntu it just flickers w/ a purple screen then hangs on a blank black screen.
[14:44] <meenal> ActionPa1snip: trying ..
[14:44] <ActionPa1snip> calwig: what sort of file?
[14:44] <calwig> its a PDF
[14:45] <ActionPa1snip> calwig: those are super easy
[14:45] <calwig> push it straight to port 9100 RAW
[14:45] <ActionPa1snip> calwig: I believe its:   lp filename.pdf
[14:46] <calwig> ah
[14:46] <newp> I'll wait on queue
[14:46] <ActionPa1snip> calwig: sorry,   lpr filename.pdf
[14:47] <stuartsierra> Yes, adding a delay to my Packer provisioning script made it work.
[14:47] <calwig> thx!
[14:47] <stuartsierra> Thanks for your help, somsip.
[14:47] <wilee-nilee> newp, Have you installed a graphic driver from the manufacturer of them say...nvidia?
[14:48] <newp> hey wilee lol, yes unfortunately.
[14:48] <somsip> stuartsierra: so the instance wasn;t fully loaded, including the AWS fixes, before the update script kicked in?
[14:49] <newp> this is the same machine you helped me w/ yesterday.  it was booting fine & now all of a sudden it hangs after selecting the kernel at boot
[14:49] <stuartsierra> somsip: That appears to be the case. cloud-init modifies /etc/apt/sources.list in the background on boot.
[14:49] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: its fun to convert everything to pdf or ps then use the sme command, easy printing in CLI
[14:49] <wilee-nilee> newp, They do not follow kernel ujpgrades we just had one, you can get in with the kernel before this most likely, and fix it, I'm not up on the fix. use the repos drivers.
[14:49] <somsip> stuartsierra: I thought it did something like that, with them being different for different regions so can't be hard-coded in the AMI. Glad you got it sorted though :)
[14:49] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu repos*
[14:50] <newp> I'm a bit of a Ubuntu newp.. how do I go about that?
[14:50] <meenal> ActionPa1snip: i am using rescue terminal..looks like my "sudo apt-get install" is not working
[14:51] <nyuszika7h> anyone got an idea why the alert sound isn't working on beep? it works in the sound settings, but not in terminals or anywhere else
[14:51] <wilee-nilee> newp, At the boot menu there is access to other kernels I forget its exact name, if you get to the desk top I believe this command should work. sudo apt-get purge nvidia*  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[14:54] <newp> wilee:  you mean the recovery console & drop to root shell prompt?  I booted into there & updated packages + updated the grup bootloader.  it then sent me to a black prompt screen & asked me to login
[14:55] <newp> however, even though I put in the correct login/pw it said they were incorrect.
[14:55] <wilee-nilee> newp, No it is another I just forget the name of it hold on.
[14:56] <wilee-nilee> newp, previous linux versions or something like that. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Submenus
[14:56] <newp> okay, thank you wilee.  you are a lifesaver for newbs like me.
[14:56] <wilee-nilee> newp, Lets wait and see if this fixes it, before we declare that. ;)
[14:57] <newp> lol
[14:57] <wilee-nilee> newp, I'm in it to serve myself, glad you could be a part of it, lol.
[14:58] <newp> rebooting now, though I don't remember having the previous versions selection seeing this is a fresh install from last night
[14:59] <newp> yeah I don't get the previous versions option
[14:59] <wilee-nilee> newp, Ah you most likely had a kernel upgrade, and this adds that nottation.
[14:59] <meenal> ActionPa1snip: running "sudo apt-get install xfce4" asks to run apt-get -f install which shows http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8EbEajqS
[14:59] <wilee-nilee> newp, So did you reboot to a working desktop originally then installed the nvidia from them?
[15:00] <meenal> this is the problem with any "apt-gt install" command i try
[15:00] <yepyep_> Question.  I'm trying to convert to GPT and I accidentally overwrote an extended partition which contained an LVM logical partition
[15:00] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:01] <yepyep_> the extended partition is gone, but the logical partition appears to be still intact according to gparted
[15:01] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: its a single line, so you can paste in here direct
[15:01] <yepyep_> how can I recreate the extended partititon with the logical partition inside?
[15:01] <meenal> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[15:02] <k1l> meenal: which ubuntu is that exactly? what PPAs do you have (ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d), what does apt-get install -f bring?
[15:02] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: then I suggest you contact the ppa maintainer
[15:02] <newp> I have: "Ubuntu with Linux 3.5.0-23-generic, Ubuntu with Linux 3.5.0-23-generic (recovery mode), Memory test (memtest85+), Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200), Windows Recovery Enviorment (loader) (on /dev/sda2), Windows 8 (loader) (on /dev/sda2) & System setup
[15:03] <wilee-nilee> yepyep_, lvm is encrypted I doubt that any of that is recoverable at this point, from your description, but thats a guess.
[15:03] <newp> I booted into a working desktop after you helped me get it installed last night
[15:03] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: the packages you have, have overlapping files. This is frequent in PPAs as they are unofiicial package sources
[15:04] <wilee-nilee> newp, so when you boot now how far do you get
[15:04] <k1l> meenal: if you search for that package libwayland-client0_1.2.0-0ubuntu1~13.04~ricotz0_i386.deb  you will find lots of users with problems.
[15:04] <newp> updated the system & shut down for the night.  I woke up & now it's doing this
[15:04] <k1l> meenal: use ppa-purge to get rid of that PPA
[15:04] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: we cannot support PPAs here. Contact the maintainer direct and tell him/her all the things you told me and they will tweak the packages
[15:04] <newp> now I just get to the GNU GRUB screen where you select out of those options I mentioned above
[15:04] <wilee-nilee> newp, what happens if you choose the ubuntu boot?
[15:05] <meenal> k1l:
[15:05] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: if you start adding 3rd party sources for packages, don't be surprised if you get issues
[15:05] <newp> it flickers w/ a purple screen & the Ubuntu loading bar (just for a quick second) then flickers to a black screen and hangs until I reboot
[15:05] <yepyep_> wilee-nilee: lvm's encrypted by default?
[15:05] <wilee-nilee> yepyep_, I believe so not sure really.
[15:06] <meenal> i wont be able to give the output for (ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d)...cursor freeze
[15:06] <meenal> ActionPa1snip: so do i need to remove the ppas
[15:06] <k1l> meenal: without the ( )
[15:07] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: yes
[15:07] <yepyep_> what if i just delete the logical partition, put a new extended partitition, recreate the logical partition and reread the lvm metadata?
[15:07] <wilee-nilee> newp, YOu can run that earlier command from what is known as a tty a command setup, by hitting ctrl-alt f1 logging in run the command then reboot.
[15:07] <newp> I can't even boot into Windows 8 either.  it says "error: unknown command 'drivemap' "error: invalid EFI path."
[15:07] <newp> I'm less concerned with that though, lol...
[15:07] <meenal> k11...i have tried the command without ()
[15:07] <wilee-nilee> newp, You do ythis after hitting the ubuntu boot and wait about a minute.
[15:07] <yepyep_> *put a new extended partition in its place.  the logical partition filled the extended part
[15:07] <k1l> meenal: just worked here. there is alot wrong with your system then
[15:08] <Peanut> I have a brand-new machine, running 3.8.0-27, and it's just started crashing on 'BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request'. I did a reboot, it happened again a bit later (while doing an apt-get dist-upgrade to get the latest kernel installed). Any known issues with the kernel I have? (Raring).
[15:08] <newp> huh?
[15:08] <newp> you're losing me lol
[15:08] <oooooooooooooooo> hi
[15:08] <wilee-nilee> newp, Hmm, I'm wondering if there is more wrong here than just drivers from nvidia if windows does not boot, did it before?
[15:09] <meenal> k1l: no the command is working fine but my system has freezed so i won't beable to tell you the output...i am working in rescur terminal
[15:09] <norjor> How can I map tab key to another key ? (my tab button is annihilated)
[15:09] <oooooooooooooooo> kk
[15:09] <ActionPa1snip> Peanut: i'd check ram from memtest86+
[15:09] <squig> hey I was wondering if there was a way to tell the system to build all its required kernel module again with dkms
[15:09] <meenal> ActionPa1snip: but removing the ppas might cause some error with previous installation
[15:09] <newp> yes but I think it may have to do with the fact that I've still got Secureboot & Fastboot disabled in the bios seeing I had to do that to install Ubuntu last night
[15:09] <squig> Ive never had to do it, but some thing is broken on one of my machines
[15:09] <ActionPa1snip> meenal: this is why you shouldnt add PPAs
[15:10] <yepyep_> norjor: xmodmap will do the trick if you only need it for X11
[15:10] <newp> I'll put them back on & check quickly right now
[15:10] <Peanut> ActionPa1snip: "Kernel Panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt" - looks like I'll have to boot again anyway. I'll try memtest.
[15:10] <wilee-nilee> newp, Ah a uefi setup, that is really key info, I know nothing about that, so disregard my instructions in general.
[15:10] <norjor> yepyep Im using awesome wm
[15:11] <norjor> will it work then?
[15:11] <newp> lol
[15:11] <newp> you helped me disable it & get Ubuntu installed last night so don't sell yourself short
[15:11] <wilee-nilee> newp, details are the key, but you can most likely get this fixed you just need the right help. I would make a thread at the ubuntu forums and have uefi in the thread header the best help is there.
[15:12] <meenal> ActionPa1snip: i require the ppas..is there any workaround?
[15:12] <yepyep_> Should work on any X11 window manager.  If you need to work with virtual terminals, however, it won't use the key swap
[15:12] <wilee-nilee> newp, It was not me I wont touch uefi with a ten foot pole if I know thats whats up. ;)
[15:12] <newp> okay, will do.
[15:12] <newp> lol maybe I am mistaken
[15:13] <yepyep_> I have capslock swapped with escape, and control swapped with alt on X11 using xmodmap and it works across all WMs I've tried (gnome, xfce, xmonad)
[15:13] <newp> and yeah, I put back the original UEFI setting (turned on Secure & Fastboot) and not it allows me to boot into crappy Windows again as I suspected
[15:13] <Vlyn> Hello there! I'm searching for an Ubuntu theme. When I watched the movie Elysium I fell in love with this interface: http://i.imgur.com/BGtTmzv.jpg (Of course it was better in the cinema). So I'm searching something similar as a Theme. Good tags would be glass (or glass like) but I haven't found anything suitable :-/ anyone got an idea?
[15:14] <wilee-nilee> newp, There is an admin at the UF who specializes in the uefi problems look for there help, they will stop by your thread most likely.
[15:14] <newp> will do
[15:14] <norjor> Uhm anyone know the name of the button with ½ in xmodmap
[15:14] <newp> thanks for trying to help either way bud
[15:14] <wilee-nilee> newp, cool there is help here at times but it is a complex situation at times is all.
[15:14] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[15:22] <michagogo> Is it a bad thing to run sudo apt-get upgrade if qemu-kvm is one of the upgrades to be installed and there's a VM running?
[15:22] <michagogo> Or will it fail gracefully?
[15:23] <michagogo> (or something else?)
[15:23] <atrius`> michagogo: are you worried about the vm restarting or something?
[15:23] <michagogo> atrius`: Just wondering what will happen
[15:23] <wilee-nilee> newp, The author of this thread is that mod, and this is good info as well to look at, since you mentioned the change of the uefi boots windows. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[15:23] <atrius`> michagogo: i'd expect not much.. which is to say the VM shouldn't get restarted nor should it be impacted. that said, i'd test it somewhere if this is a production concern
[15:24] <newp> wilee:  thank you once again :)
[15:24] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[15:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm. after installind ubuntu-desktop and rebooting it does not give me the option to use the unity desktop :/
[15:25] <newp> I should probably eat something before I continue.  been up a while at this, lol..
[15:26] <wilee-nilee> keep up the carb intake sugar makes the brain run
[15:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: truth, lol. I live on carbs and am thin as a rail XD
[15:26] <ezra-s> drink a lot too
[15:26] <ezra-s> water
[15:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> also on another note my system time is quite ahead, any easy fix to that?
[15:30] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[15:31] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: How far ahead?  (Do you have time zone settings correct?)
[15:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: that did it, thankyou. I had the proper timezone, but it was saying 3pm at 8am XD
[15:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> so, now to get me into unity >:D
[15:33] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: It is not booting to unity?  (What exactly *does* it do?)
[15:34] <j0llyr0tten> hey, does anyone when you make a startup disk on first install does it wipe the USB stick or just use some of the free space?
[15:34] <j0llyr0tten> it seems like it uses the free space (as there is a separate erase disk button)
[15:34] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: At any rate, at the login screen, you should see the option to start a session with any of the various Desktop Environments that are installed.
[15:35] <j0llyr0tten> i've been away from ubuntu for a while (over in Macbook land) so i'm not up to date on the ins and outs
[15:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: it doesn't show ubuntu/unity/whatever at the xububuntu-gtk-greeter dropdown
[15:36] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: What do you have installed?
[15:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> j0llyr0tten: I've had both happen, lol.
[15:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: what do you mean by what? I installed ubuntu-desktop via apt-get on top of xubuntu 13.04, if that's what you mean.
[15:37] <Kartagis> what's with the 'Ambigious output redirect' when I try ssh-copy-id?
[15:37] <j0llyr0tten> ntzrmtthihu777: urk! i got a Dell XPS with Ubuntu pre-installed. it is asking to make a startup disk ...
[15:37] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: Yea, that is the information I wanted. Did you reboot after installing ubuntu-desktop?
[15:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: yep.
[15:37] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:38] <pragmasoft> quit
[15:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: did that.
[15:40] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: Did it do anything?
[15:40] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: If so, and it completed the task without errors, try rebooting again.
[15:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: you want me to install ubuntu-desktop again?
[15:40] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: Or, you may only need to log out and back in again.  (Not sure.)
[15:41] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: Yes.
[15:41] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:41] <GunArm> is it bad to run fsck on a mounted partition?
[15:41] <ikonia> very
[15:42] <Kartagis> what's with the 'Ambigious output redirect' when I try ssh-copy-id?
[15:42] <GunArm> ok then thx
[15:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: I'll do it again, but I don't see how performing the same command will change the result :P
[15:42] <ikonia> Kartagis: what do you mean, "what's with it"
[15:42] <Kartagis> ikonia: I mean 'why am I getting it?'
[15:42] <ikonia> Kartagis: what's the command you are running
[15:42] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: It will not change the result, but it will tell you if you have already installed it or not.  If it was not really installed, or the install process wasn't completed, it will finish it.
[15:43] <Kartagis> ikonia: ssh-copy-id -i .ssh/id_rsa.pub<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:44] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: If it is already installed, it will say so, (something to the effect, "ubuntu-desktop" is already installed and is latest version").  If it did not complet the install process before, it will pick up where it left off and finish or repair as needed.
[15:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: it completed with no errors, which is why I'm puzzled. I personally prefer xfce, but this is a multitouch device so I'd like to give the new unity a go on it :P
[15:44] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: Ok then, log out and back in again, (see if you get option for unity).
[15:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: yes, I understand that, but I'm not such a new user to ubuntu to not know whether something installed proper XD. but, I'll humour you on this.
[15:45] <ikonia> Kartagis: is the target valid in terms of existing directories ?
[15:45] <ikonia> Kartagis: is the key actually updated on the remote machine
[15:46] <Kartagis> ikonia: I think so and no
[15:46] <exidos> This Ubuntu-IRC-Channel is awesome folks! ;) yeah
[15:46] <ikonia> Kartagis: what do you mean - I think so, please check
[15:46] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: Ok, here is the problem;  I do not know what you have done what is not done. I do not know your level of knowledge either.  The quickest/easiest thing to do (first off) is to try the command to install it.
[15:46] <Kartagis> ikonia: but the target doesn't have /home, it has /home3
[15:46] <Kartagis> 2
[15:46] <Peanut> ActionPa1snip: Too bad, the machine won't even boot, it's completely dead now, never made it to memtest. At least it's under warranty.
[15:46] <Ntemis> hello
[15:46] <ikonia> Kartagis: that shouldn't matter
[15:46] <exidos> hi Ntemis
[15:47] <Ntemis> need help fix my monitor resolution and refresh on ati radeon
[15:47] <Ntemis> hi
[15:47] <Kartagis> ikonia: should I check for an existing .ssh or so?
[15:47] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: So, let us know if it does anything or not and we can go from there.  (Basically, just tell us what the last line says.)
[15:47] <Kartagis> ikonia: .ssh exists though
[15:47] <Ntemis> refresh is 0hz
[15:47] <Ntemis> and resolution is wrong
[15:47] <exidos> What radeon driver have you installed?
[15:47] <Ntemis> way wrong
[15:48] <Ntemis> the latest legacy ones
[15:48] <Ntemis> 13.1
[15:48] <Ntemis> i have a 4870
[15:48] <ikonia> Kartagis: does that key file actually exist
[15:48] <exidos> Free or propritary?
[15:48] <Ntemis> pro
[15:48] <adamk_> Ntemis, You really need to use the open source drivers with that GPU.
[15:48] <ikonia> Kartagis: if you read the script it does the following f expr "$1" : ".*\.pub" > /dev/null ; then
[15:48] <Kartagis> ikonia: yes
[15:48] <Ntemis> np
[15:48] <ikonia> Kartagis: I suspect that is the ambigious output
[15:48] <Ntemis> guide me through it and i will
[15:48] <adamk_> Ntemis, Otherwise you need to downgrade all of Xorg, which is not something I think many people would recommend.
[15:49] <Ntemis> nope
[15:49] <Ntemis> i want the open source ones then
[15:49] <Ntemis> please
[15:49] <adamk_> Ntemis, There's not much to guide.  The open source drivers were installed and  used by default till you installed the legacy proprietary driver, so uninstall the legacy proprietary driver.
[15:49] <Ntemis> and thanks for your time helping me
[15:49] <exidos> Ntemis, I think in the ubuntu wiki you will find all you have to know how to install the free driver
[15:49] <ikonia> Kartagis: use -i with just the name of the key file - not the full path
[15:49] <Kartagis> ikonia: it works perfectly on another server though
[15:49] <Ntemis> how i unistall propriertary?
[15:49] <arazhil> hi
[15:49] <ikonia> Kartagis: that suggests there is something wrong with the target server
[15:50] <adamk_> Ntemis, That depends on how you installed it in the first place.
[15:50] <Ntemis> 3 files from amd
[15:50] <arazhil> someone know how can i get text beside my icon desktop
[15:50] <Ntemis> fglrx-dev_8.970-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb fglrx_8.970-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb fglrx-amdcccle_8.970-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[15:51] <newp> quick question:  how to I disable/toggled nomodeset in 12.04?  I'm unable to boot into Ubuntu.
[15:51] <Ntemis> after i run their driver
[15:51] <adamk_> Ntemis, Use 'sudo apt-get remove fglrx*'
[15:51] <Ntemis> created those packages
[15:51] <Kartagis> ikonia: oh, I got the problem, perms is 700 on the remote server
[15:51] <usr13> !nomodeset | newp
[15:51] <Ntemis> then i use dpkg -i to install all
[15:51] <Kartagis> .ssh perms that is
[15:51] <arazhil> someone know how can i get text beside my icon desktop
[15:51] <exidos> adamk, i thin dpkg is a better way, isnt it? Ntemis
[15:51] <ikonia> Kartagis: it's also possible the terminal/login setup is scewed with odd chars on the target server, that is also worth checking
[15:51] <newp> ty usr13
[15:51] <adamk_> exidos, Why do you think it's better?
[15:52] <exidos> adamk, in the last weeks, i had some problems with the uninstall via apt, with dpkg it ran allways.
[15:52] <Ntemis> sudo apt-get remove fglrx* no go
[15:52] <Ntemis> :(
[15:52] <Ntemis> log coming
[15:52] <arazhil> someone know how can i get text beside my icon desktop
[15:52] <usr13> arazhil: Not sure we know what you want to do.  (It is not clear to me and I'm thinking others are at a loss as well.  Restate your issue with more detail.)
[15:53] <usr13> arazhil: (Don't just keep saying the same thing.)
[15:53] <exidos> Ntemis, You have to use the hole package name
[15:53] <Ntemis> http://pastebin.com/sGU2nVS5
[15:53] <Ntemis> logfile
[15:53] <moondog> my motd seems to be messed up today... http://pastebin.com/bAYQWxCL
[15:53] <Ntemis> please help me thanks
[15:53] <exidos> Ntemis, a second
[15:53] <Ntemis> exidos: like?
[15:53] <moondog> I have two machines running identical versions of Ubuntu
[15:53] <moondog> one has the problem, the other doesn't
[15:54] <adamk_> Ntemis, Don't run that command in a directory that has the fglrx deb packages.  Change to another directory first.
[15:54] <Ntemis> oh
[15:54] <Ntemis> :)
[15:54] <Ntemis> didnt know that
[15:55] <adamk_> Ntemis, Alternatively, you can run the command and use the full package names as exidos suggested, without the *:   'sudo apt-get remove fglrx-installer fglrx-dev fglrx'
[15:55] <Ntemis> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[15:55] <Ntemis>   fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-dev
[15:55] <Ntemis> go ahead?
[15:56] <exidos> and Ntemis, use -purge to uninstall it. It uninstall all dependencies of this package.
[15:56] <adamk_> Ntemis, Yes, go ahead.
[15:56] <Ntemis> sudo apt-get --purge fglrx*
[15:56] <Ntemis> do i need remove word also?
[15:56] <Ntemis> sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
[15:56] <Ntemis> ?
[15:57] <exidos> yes Ntemis
[15:57] <exidos> Ntemis, go ahead
[15:57] <adamk_> Ntemis, You need remove, but I don't personally think you need --purge in this case, though it can't hurt.
[15:58] <Franz_____> Can I ask a question regarding my problem of installing Ubuntu 12.04 or 13.04
[15:58] <usr13> Franz_____: Yes
[15:58] <Ntemis> its reconfiguring kernel
[15:58] <servvs> I am having trouble removing a program, I am typing sudo dpkg -r appname but I keep receiving an error saying that  Options marked [*] produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[15:58] <Ntemis> ok done
[15:58] <Ntemis> now how i get the opensource ones?
[15:59] <usr13> servvs: Try apt-get remove appname
[15:59] <adamk_> Ntemis, They should still be installed... Theoretically you just need to reboot now.
[15:59] <Ntemis> am afraid
[15:59] <exidos> okay
[15:59] <Ntemis> do i need to aticonfig initial?
[15:59] <adamk_> Ntemis, No.
[15:59] <Ntemis> so reboot only?
[16:00] <exidos> Ntemis, you have to reboot only
[16:00] <shashankg> I installed ubuntu 13.04 today. I cannot change my screen birghtness using the brightness keys or brightness and lock from settings. It is fixed to maximum value.
[16:00] <Ntemis> ok be back (i hope)
[16:00] <adamk_> Ntemis, Does /etc/X11/xorg.conf exist?
[16:00] <ActionPa1snip> Peanut: if you can get to BIOS, set it to defaults.
[16:00] <Ntemis> let me check
[16:00] <newp> omg this new laptop is driving me insane
[16:00] <Nach0z> newp: sup
[16:00] <ActionPa1snip> Peanut: depending on warranty, you may simply need to unplug the PC and remove the CMOS battery overnight, then back together and boot
[16:00] <exidos> adamk, the new x-servers has autoconfig, hasnt it?
[16:01] <Ntemis> yes
[16:01] <ActionPa1snip> Peanut: dont void warranty though
[16:01] <Ntemis> i have 3
[16:01] <exidos> 3?
[16:01] <adamk_> exidos, Yes, but the AMD driver probably created an xorg.conf file that can cause problems when using the open source drivers.
[16:01] <Ntemis> yes
[16:01] <exidos> ahh the logs bevor
[16:01] <exidos> ahh ok aam
[16:01] <Ntemis> xorg conf original0
[16:01] <servvs> usr13 that isn't working either
[16:01] <exidos> ahh ok adamk
[16:01] <Ntemis> xorg conf original1
[16:01] <Ntemis> xorg conf.BAK
[16:01] <newp> Nach0z:  everything is going wrong.  wilee was trying to help me but UEFI was a bit much
[16:01] <Franz_____> My problem: I am trying to install Ubuntu on a new machine. I tried BIOS and UEFI, same error for both. When I try to create a partition using GParted on Ubuntu Live, GParted shows the whole disk as unpartitioned, saying "/dev/sda: unrecognized label". If I create the gpt table in a Gparted Live DVD, everything works fine, if I then try to install Ubuntu once again, it says: "The creation of swap space in partition #3 of SCSI5 (0,1
[16:01] <adamk_> Ntemis, Just /etc/X11/xorg.conf ...  Nothing after it.
[16:01] <pepper_chico> Is there a way to set a shortcut to unhide the Ubuntu Launcher, but not opening the Dash search?
[16:01] <Ntemis> and the xorg.conf
[16:02] <Ntemis> 4
[16:02] <Ntemis> accually
[16:02] <exidos> this is the right one Ntemis
[16:02] <usr13> servvs: What error did you get?
[16:02] <adamk_> Ntemis, Just run 'sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[16:02] <Ntemis> so reboot?
[16:02] <adamk_> Ntemis, *Then* reboot.
[16:02] <Ntemis> okey
[16:02] <newp> Nach0z:  do you know UEFI?
[16:02] <Franz_____> ... in an error message, leaving the disk in the state as described before.
[16:02] <Ntemis> so remove the xorg.conf?
[16:02] <exidos> yes N
[16:02] <Ntemis> will this be ok?
[16:02] <exidos> yes Ntemis
[16:02] <Ntemis> kk
[16:03] <ActionPa1snip> Franz_____: if you make all the partitions in gparted then boot install cd, is it ok?
[16:03] <Ntemis> done
[16:03] <Ntemis> is deleted
[16:03] <exidos> fine Ntemis
[16:03] <Ntemis> i hope i can boot
[16:03] <servvs> usr13 I got it fixed now, when doing dpkg -r I was referring to the program with an incorrect name
[16:03] <Ntemis> thanks a lot
[16:04] <phyzix5761> hey guys I messed something up. :(
[16:04] <Franz_____> ActionPa1snip: you mean directly boot into setup, rather than going into the Live DVD Mode of Ubuntu first?
[16:04] <phyzix5761> I installed a different version of a driver to see if a program would work and now my laptop trackpad doesnt work
[16:04] <pepper_chico> I'm using ubuntu on Parallels for OS X, the sad thing is that Parallels has some mouse related issues and as it's currently it can't unhide the launcher by mouse pointer proximity, so I need a shortcut, but pressing the command/"windows" key shows the launcher but opens the dash search
[16:04] <phyzix5761> I think it was the driver because I didn't change anything else
[16:04] <ActionPa1snip> Franz_____: make the partitions in the gparted cd, boot to Ubuntu install CD and install to the newly made partitions
[16:05] <phyzix5761> How do I know which driver to install again to see if that is the issue?
[16:05] <pepper_chico> I'd like to have the launcher opening without the dash search, just an unhide
[16:05] <usr13> servvs: Ok, thanks for letting us know what the error was.  Glad you figured it out.
[16:05] <Ntemis> THANK YOU guys
[16:05] <Ntemis> am back
[16:05] <Ntemis> You rock
[16:05] <Franz_____> ActionPa1snip: didn't work for BIOS, but I'll try it for UEFI now. Can I send a log or so afterwards? (Which one is important?)
[16:05] <Ntemis> cant thank you enough for this!
[16:05] <usr13> phyzix5761: Uninstall the last one you installed first.
[16:06] <phyzix5761> usr13 ok I will try to remember which one it was.
[16:06] <Ntemis> is there a way sm player not to play fast forward the videos with open source driver?
[16:06] <Ntemis> shall i test xorg edges
[16:06] <rickyl> Hey, I'm new here and I'm curious about how my operating system works. For example, how do programs access the filesystem and make changes to it?
[16:07] <usr13> phyzix5761: ls -tr /var/lib/dpkg/info/   #Will show last ones last on the list.
[16:07] <daftykins> rickyl: sorry this channel is for support questions, not homework help
[16:07] <phyzix5761> ah ok thank you usr13
[16:08] <pepper_chico> rickyl, through an application programming interface, which are just just functions that programs can call
[16:08] <usr13> phyzix5761: If you need to see dates;  ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[16:08] <rickyl> daftykins: I'm not working on homework. I'm self-studying because I'm curious. What other IRC channel would you recommend?
[16:08] <newp> why is it saying my login/pw is incorrect when I try to login through a basic commad line
[16:08] <servvs> I have some KDE dependencies and libraries installed now that I don't think I need anymore. Is there any quick way to remove them?
[16:09] <newp> says Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS username tty1 at top
[16:09] <rickyl> pepper_chico: How would I access the API of my OS in code that I would write myself?
[16:09] <newp> then asks for my login, I enter that & asks for my pw.  but no matter what I enter it says incorrect.
[16:09] <usr13> newp: More-than-likely because the login ID or  password you are using is incorrect.
[16:09] <pepper_chico> rickyl, some programming channel would be better, for things like filesystem, maybe some knowledge of POSIX would be interesting
[16:09] <pepper_chico> and there're posix channels of freenode I think
[16:09] <newp> I dont see how that's possible..
[16:09] <rickyl> Okay, thanks
[16:10] <phyzix5761> usr13, it's xserver-xorg-video-vmware-lts-quantal but I can't seem to remove it. it says it's not installed
[16:10] <usr13> newp: Both login ID and password are case sensitive.
[16:10] <Ntemis> SMPlayer is playing videos too fast with open source Ati driver (legacy HD4870) any way around?
[16:10] <newp> it's a fresh install of Ubuntu, I only set one username/pw & it doesn't work.  neither does the default
[16:11] <newp> I know.  I even tried other passwords I use just in case I sleepwalked & changed it or something (lol)
[16:11] <wilee-nilee> newp, Are you going from the recovery to a tty?
[16:11] <newp> yes
[16:11] <babinlonston> I have more than 100 files and now i want to remove the Number in it, and i want to add some words and Numeric in order How can i rename multiple file in one Shot command
[16:11] <wilee-nilee> newp, I think you need to have it read and write I believe at the recivery it is just read, just a guess.
[16:11] <usr13> phyzix5761: apt-get purge package-name-here
[16:12] <phyzix5761> ok
[16:12] <pepper_chico> rickyl, I'm talking almost about the lowest level you have provided for an user mode application, which is posix access, but other languages and libraries may build another API on top of the lowest API's
[16:12] <pepper_chico> oh
[16:12] <newp> I'm about to return this stupid laptop.  I've never had grief like this when installing & running Ubuntu.
[16:12] <pepper_chico> gone..
[16:12] <pepper_chico> well anyway, no one have an idea about ^
[16:12] <pepper_chico> Is there a way to set a shortcut to unhide the Ubuntu Launcher, but not opening the Dash search?
[16:12] <pepper_chico> ^
[16:12] <wilee-nilee> newp, Is there a mount notation at the recovery gui
[16:12] <phyzix5761> ok usr13 thats done
[16:13] <pepper_chico> I'm using ubuntu on Parallels for OS X, the sad thing is that Parallels has some mouse related issues and as it's currently it can't unhide the launcher by mouse pointer proximity, so I need a shortcut, but pressing the command/"windows" key shows the launcher but opens the dash search
[16:13] <usr13> newp: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[16:13] <wilee-nilee> or recovery cli basically
[16:13] <newp> what do you mean by mount notation?
[16:13] <wilee-nilee> newp, I thought that there was a line for mounting the OS something like that anyway.
[16:13] <wilee-nilee> for read and write
[16:14] <usr13> phyzix5761: So, what exactly were you trying to install?
[16:14] <phyzix5761> I was trying to get the voice chat to work on the second life Firestorm viewer
[16:14] <newp> maybe.. I don't know, my brain isn't working well right now.  lemme reboot into the recovery menu.
[16:15] <usr13> phyzix5761: (Did you install two pieces of driver software that are incorrect?  Or just the one?)
[16:15] <wilee-nilee> newp, I'm not sure you have a tty access from that recovery area in the first list of options.
[16:15] <phyzix5761> usr13, just the one but I remember seeing that it had removed a bunch of packages in the process
[16:15] <newp> why would is say tty1 at the top then?
[16:16] <wilee-nilee> newp, YOu may get to it but it is not functioning normally, this is a guess though.
[16:16] <newp> ah
[16:16] <matthias_> Slart: Hey, are you online?
[16:16] <newp> these are the options I get at the Recovery Menu
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> can dconf-editor show/hide icons in dash?
[16:17] <newp> resume normal boot, try to make free space, rapair brocken packages, run in failsafe graphics mode, heck all file systems, update grub bootloader, enable networking, drop to root shell prompt, system summary
[16:17] <phyzix5761> usr13, How do I find out what driver I used to have so I can install that again?
[16:18] <usr13> phyzix5761: There are a number of dependencies so it is normal to remove a bunch of other packages along with it, (especially when you use "purge").
[16:18] <Shashankg> I installed ubuntu 13.04.  I can't change my screen brightness using brghtness keys or brightness and lock in settings. It is set to max value. I have a Dell xps.
[16:18] <newp> I'm just completely lost at this point...
[16:18] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: i believe you can set that in the files in /usr/share/applications  not sure about dconf
[16:18] <usr13> phyzix5761: What makes you think there is a "driver" needed?
[16:19] <wilee-nilee> newp, I rarely have used recovery so I'm not your best help, this is attached to the ubuntu boot right?
[16:19] <usr13> phyzix5761: driver for _______________?
[16:19] <newp> yes
[16:19] <phyzix5761> I dont know. I thought when I installed this new one it removed the last one. My mouse stopped working.
[16:19] <phyzix5761> laptop trackpad usr13
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: lemme check :p
[16:19] <usr13> phyzix5761: Is your mouse not working?
[16:19] <wilee-nilee> newp, Were you able to make a thread at the uf?
[16:19] <phyzix5761> usr13, the laptop trackpad
[16:19] <Slart> matthias_: yup
[16:20] <newp> I'm about to, I was just trying a few things first
[16:20] <usr13> phyzix5761: .... *still* not working ....?
[16:20] <ActionPa1snip> phyzix5761: what make and model laptop please?
[16:20] <phyzix5761> still not working. usr13
[16:20] <wilee-nilee> newp, cool, be careful, if you pick at it you can cause more problems.
[16:20] <usr13> phyzix5761: Give us the make and model of your laptop.
[16:20] <newp> $700 wasted on this piece of crap laptop.
[16:20] <phyzix5761> Actionnaire0213, I have a Dell Inspiron n5050
[16:20] <newp> so much for ASUS being the company I remember
[16:21] <usr13> newp: Oh come on, I'm sure it is fixable.
[16:21] <wilee-nilee> newp, Nah it is just that uefi thang is all.
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: can i safely remove an icon from there?
[16:21] <ActionPa1snip> phyzix5761: tried Fn + F3 ?
[16:21] <newp> I'm sure it is fixable but I shouldn't have this much trouble getting an OS to work.
[16:21] <phyzix5761> Actionnaire0213, I pressed it now but it doesn't do anything
[16:21] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: you set it to 'hidden' or 'not visible' i forget the wording, read the file
[16:21] <newp> I've installed ubuntu on at least a dozen other machines & never run into problems
[16:22] <wilee-nilee> newp, You can thank MS for that. ;)
[16:22] <newp> ya I know.
[16:22] <ActionPa1snip> phyzix5761: try:  sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sleep 3; sudo modprobe psmouse
[16:22] <newp> notice I'm not blaming Ubuntu, lol.
[16:22] <Franz_____> ActionPa1snip: I tried setting up the partitions in the GParted Live disk and install ubuntu on them.. gives "THe attempt to mount a file system with type ext4 in SCSI5 (0,1,0), partition #1(sda) at / failed"
[16:22] <wilee-nilee> yeah
[16:22] <usr13> phyzix5761: ActionPa1snip   http://askubuntu.com/questions/291143/touchpad-does-not-exist  ? (Maybe?)
[16:23] <phyzix5761> Actionnaire0213, not working
[16:23] <newp> I need to take a break & eat something before I make this thread
[16:23] <newp> be back later if you're around wilee (and company)
[16:23] <phyzix5761> usr13, Actionnaire0213 should I try that link?
[16:23] <wilee-nilee> newp, cool
[16:24] <michael__> Hallo, welche Sprache wird in diesen Channel gesprochen /Hello which language will be spoken at this channel?
[16:24] <Franz_____> english
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> !de | michael__
[16:24] <michael__> thanks
[16:24] <michael__> i'm desperate
[16:24] <Peanut> Ok, this is puzzling. My presumed dead machine works fine in the rescue environment (net booted) and I have full access to my root partition. But I can't get it to boot from the SSD anymore, even after re-installing grub. Grub is not putting up the menu, kernel is not outputting anything (which it used to do). As I get no output from grub, I can't make it to the memtest.
[16:25] <usr13> phyzix5761: I don't know... still looking
[16:25] <ActionPa1snip> phyzix5761: try running: synclient TouchpadOff=0
[16:25] <ActionPa1snip> usr13: possibly
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> michael__: try to ask your issue mate
[16:25] <phyzix5761> Actionnaire0213, usr13 ok but I also saw a link that said a fix for dell laptops
[16:25] <michael__> i installed ubuntu yesterday. And i try to install my wireless lan but i wan't work
[16:25] <pepper_chico> does holding Super still shows Unity shortcuts on Ubuntu 13.04?
[16:25] <michael__> it*
[16:25] <ActionPa1snip> michael__: what wifi chip?
[16:25] <phyzix5761> Actionnaire0213, I have to install synclient
[16:25] <ActionPa1snip> phyzix5761: then install it....
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> michael__: wifi chipset and ubuntu version?
[16:26] <michael__> intel advanced-n 6300
[16:26] <pepper_chico> Super here just open the Launcher+Dash
[16:26] <wilee-nilee> phyzix5761, Your using the wrong nick, lol
[16:26] <michael__> ubuntu 13.04 64bit
[16:26] <phyzix5761> oh whoops lmao!
[16:26] <ActionPa1snip> michael__: is the OS fully updated?
[16:26] <pepper_chico> Not sure whether it's an Parallels issue or not
[16:26] <michael__> i downloaded the iso file yesterday from ubuntu.com
[16:26] <pepper_chico> any help please?
[16:26] <ActionPa1snip> pepper_chico: hold it down, a long time
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> Peanut: dualboot or single ubuntu on ssd?
[16:27] <ActionPa1snip> michael__: doesnt matter, the ISO is from April, so is 4 months out of date
[16:27] <pepper_chico> ActionPa1snip, I've tried, but nothing happened, on release, Launcher+Dash shows up
[16:27] <leeping> Hi there - I'm in the process of moving my home directory.  Previously I had the root filesystem (including /home) as the mount point for my old HD, /dev/sda1.  Now I copied /home over to /media/home, which is the mount point for my new HD, /dev/sdb1.  I know how to do the transition (i.e. set the mount point of /dev/sdb1 to /home) - but how can I access the files in the old /home directory (i.e. on /dev/sda1) once I change the mount point?
[16:27] <usr13> michael__: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:27] <ActionPa1snip> michael__: lots of updates since then
[16:27] <ActionPa1snip> pepper_chico: weird
[16:27] <ActionPa1snip> michael__: use a wired connection and get updates
[16:27] <Peanut> Only Ubuntu on it, so I never got the menu before, I just removed the - from hidden_timeout, made no difference.
[16:27] <phyzix5761> ok ActionPa1snip it says Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded
[16:28] <pepper_chico> ActionPa1snip, are you with 13.04?
[16:28] <Franz_____> My problem: I am trying to install Ubuntu on a new machine. I tried BIOS and UEFI, same error for both. When I try to create a partition using GParted on Ubuntu Live, GParted shows the whole disk as unpartitioned, saying "/dev/sda: unrecognized label". If I create the gpt table in a Gparted Live DVD, everything works fine, if I then try to install Ubuntu once again, it says: "The creation of swap space in partition #3 of SCSI5 (0,1
[16:28] <michael__> start update process
[16:28] <leeping> My motivation is that I only want to delete the files in the old /home directory once I verify that the new /home directory is working.
[16:28] <ActionPa1snip> pepper_chico: no, i stay on LTSs
[16:28] <pepper_chico> ah ok
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> Peanut: when did it started to go wrong?
[16:28] <michael__> i really like ubuntu. When my wifi is working, i show microsoft my back :)
[16:29] <ActionPa1snip> pepper_chico: all the new junk in the newer versions doesnt really help when all I do is chat and browse
[16:29] <Slart> matthias_: did the program work as intended?
[16:29] <usr13> phyzix5761: You got that error after what command?
[16:29] <michael__> update and upgrade finished
[16:29] <ActionPa1snip> michael__: get fully updated as a start, you may need to disable N speed to make it fly
[16:29] <ActionPa1snip> michael__: from a clean install....really?
[16:29] <phyzix5761> usr13, synclient TouchpadOff=0
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> michael__: maybe your logs to check, what error wifi got?
[16:30] <michael__> yeah i do a format of the install drive
[16:30] <usr13> phyzix5761:   http://askubuntu.com/questions/291143/touchpad-does-not-exist
[16:30] <pepper_chico> ActionPa1snip, these newer releases help me since I'm a dev and having newer library packages available is good
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> Peanut: did you try a recovery from grub?
[16:30] <ActionPa1snip> pepper_chico: absolutely :). I work in IT too and want an easy life when I get home. Its why I started using Linux all those moons ago
[16:30] <michael__> I'm a newbie with Linux how can i find the logs?
[16:30] <phyzix5761> ok usr13 at the bottom of the screen it says they have a dell fix. I just have to sign up for the website to download it
[16:30] <Peanut> lotuspsychje: what is 'recovery from grub' ?
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> michael__: /var/log/syslog.1
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> Peanut: try hold shift at boot, entering grub and failsafeX from recovery
[16:31] <michael__> syslog is loading
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> Peanut: or try a previous kernel to test..
[16:32] <pepper_chico> anyone with 13.04 that could please hold down Super a bit just to check whether the shortcut list shows up?
[16:32] <Peanut> lotuspsychje: ah ok, I never manged to get into the grub menu - I'm using IPMI, so holding down shift doesn't work, and the other tricks to get the grub menu to appear also didn't.
[16:32] <usr13> phyzix5761: Bottom of what screen?  Browser?  Firefox?  Desktop?
[16:32] <phyzix5761> usr13, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2102346
[16:33] <michael__> lotuspsychje, what should i search at the syslog?
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> Peanut: never used ipmi, what does that do
[16:34] <michael__> syslog is freezing
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> michael__: anything related to wifi or network that might be an error
[16:34] <Peanut> lotuspsychje: remote console over serial lan, and power on/off etc.
[16:35] <cinvoke> Is there a way to migrated installed packages and apps from ubuntu to another or lubuntu?
[16:35] <usr13> phyzix5761: cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> cinvoke: maybe aptoncd can do stuff for you
[16:35] <michael__> lotuspsychje, the syslog is so large, its freezing and closing with an error message
[16:36] <michael__> now its open
[16:36] <phyzix5761> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l usr13
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> michael__: try opening it with vim from terminal maybe
[16:36] <cinvoke> lotuspsychje: nice!  will give it a try
[16:36] <cinvoke> lotuspsychje: thx
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | cinvoke
[16:36] <Prometheian> I loaded up my 13.04 Ubuntu install this morning and my GUI components aren't showing up. I get my desktop w/ files, and I can open the terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T and switch between the internal consoles, but my nice Ubuntu dock and such isn't there. Any suggestions or ideas? Google seems to have failed me.
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> Peanut: so you trying to install ubuntu on ssd from remote?
[16:37] <usr13> phyzix5761: Did you download  DellAplsDriver.tar.gz  ?
[16:37] <Loic320> Hi there
[16:37] <tmmunq> CTRL+ALT+Fx switches consoles
[16:37] <michael__> lotuspsychje, wifi enabled by radio killswitch
[16:37] <phyzix5761> yes usr13 and I ran the install file
[16:37] <Peanut> lotuspsychje: no, that I've done many times before. I'm trying to see why the machine gives kernel panics all of a sudden after 3 weeks uptime, so I want to run memtest.
[16:37] <phyzix5761> usr13, still not working but maybe I have to restart
[16:38] <michael__> i can't find a error.
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> !wifi | michael__
[16:38] <michael__> i tried to install combat drivers but with no sucess
[16:38] <usr13> phyzix5761: Yea, restart and see.
[16:39] <phyzix5761> usr13 ok brb
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> michael__: did you check your additional drivers section?
[16:40] <phyzix5761> usr13 yay it works now! Thank you for all your help
[16:40] <elisa87>  I am trying to cross compile a code with CodeSourcery Arm compiler CodeSourcery/Sourcery_CodeBench_Lite_for_ARM_GNU_Linux/bin/../arm-none-linux-gnueabi/libc/usr/include/time.h:123:5: error: unknown type name '__syscall_slong_t'  Do you know how to fix this error?
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> Peanut: not sure mate, try to re-ask your issue as specific possible here once in a while
[16:41] <usr13> phyzix5761: Okey dokey.  Gald you got it.
[16:41] <phyzix5761> take care
[16:42] <elisa87> is it a bug in glibc that is talking about time.h?
[16:43] <michael__> lotuspsychje, how can i do that?
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> michael__: check software&updates icon last tab 'additional drivers'
[16:44] <OerHeks> elisa87, you better ask in #ubuntu-arm
[16:44] <michael__> just a comment about my nvidia graphics
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> elisa87: maybe this is usefull? https://answers.launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded/+question/226844
[16:45] <michael__> lotuspsychje, just a comment about my nvidia graphics
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> michael__: so your syslog says wifi enabled, but you see no wifi icon?
[16:47] <zorael> !es | kameloso
[16:48] <michael__> lotuspsychje, Aug 20 22:34:18 DELLXPS NetworkManager[888]: <info> rfkill0: found WiFi radio killswitch (at /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.1/0000:03:00.0/ieee80211/phy0/rfkill0) (driver iwlwifi)
[16:48] <michael__> Aug 20 22:34:18 DELLXPS NetworkManager[888]: <info> WiFi hardware radio set enabled
[16:48] <michael__> Aug 20 22:34:18 DELLXPS NetworkManager[888]: <info> WiFi enabled by radio killswitch; enabled by state file
[16:48] <michael__> Aug 20 22:34:18 DELLXPS NetworkManager[888]: <info> WWAN enabled by radio killswitch; enabled by state file
[16:48] <michael__> Aug 20 22:34:18 DELLXPS NetworkManager[888]: <info> WiMAX enabled by radio killswitch; enabled by state file
[16:48] <FloodBot1> michael__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:48] <michael__> Aug 20 22:34:18 DELLXPS NetworkManager[888]: <info> Networking is enabled by state file
[16:49] <michael__> sorry don't want flood
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> michael__: use paste ubuntu
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> michael__: you see your wifi icon right above?
[16:50] <usr13> !info pastebinit | michael__
[16:50] <michael__> its a arrow up arrow down symbol
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> michael__: did you try remove the ethernet cable to see what happens?
[16:52] <michael__> when i remove the ethernet cable its just a empty wifi symbol
[16:52] <elisa87> lotuspsychje: could you please take a look at this ? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18363288/error-in-cross-compiling-a-c-code-unknown-type-name-syscall-slong-t
[16:52] <GunArm> i can't unmount /dev/md0 even though I stopped portmap and nfs-kernel-server which was sharing the file system. http://pastebin.com/wWUfcB6i any ideas?
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> michael__: if you have wifi symbol, should work..are you sure you have wifi connection in your surounding?
[16:53] <michael__> i sit right next to my wifi router. wifi is working fine
[16:53] <michael__> router
[16:53] <daftykins> hah, i'd use a cable :D
[16:53] <usr13> !paste | michael__
[16:54] <usr13> michael__: What does iwconfig say?
[16:54] <michael__> the wireless symbol is empty
[16:54] <usr13> michael__: iwconfig | pastebinit  #Send us the resulting URL
[16:54] <ellipsis_> Hello, I noticed in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ there are lots of files starting with different numbers. For example 10periodic. What are these for and do the numbers imply the order they are automatically run in or something? If I add a new file into there will it be run automatically? Just curious. Thanks.
[16:55] <usr13> ellipsis_: Yes
[16:55] <michael__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6010965/
[16:56] <usr13> michael__: Check your network-manager's settings and see if it is set to only use Wired.
[16:57] <michael__> wifi is on and wired is on
[16:57] <james_> hi
[16:57] <ellipsis_> usr13, Thanks.
[16:57] <michael__> wifi window is grey
[16:57] <usr13> michael__: sudo iwconfig scan |pastebinit
[16:57] <michael__> no such device
[16:58] <usr13> michael__: sudo iwconfig wlan0 scan |pastebinit
[16:58] <michael__> unknown command scan
[16:58] <root____> hello all
[17:00] <usr13> michael__: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan |pastebinit   #Sorry, wrong command
[17:00] <michael__>  Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
[17:00] <michael__> strange
[17:00] <cinvoke> whats the point of encrypting the home folder if the hd is encrypted and requires a pw before it will even mount?
[17:01] <usr13> michael__: Ok, there is something wrong with network-manager  Not sure what but, try this:
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt | cinvoke
[17:01] <usr13> michael__: dpkg-reconfigre network-manager
[17:01] <zefry> test
[17:01] <usr13> michael__: sudo dpkg-reconfigre network-manager
[17:02] <cinvoke> lotuspsychje: do you use it?
[17:02] <Guest77169> hi , how do i add backtrack repository to xubuntu 13.04
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> cinvoke: no not myself
[17:02] <michael__> Trigger für libc-bin werden verarbeitet ...ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[17:03] <ikonia> Guest77169: you don't
[17:03] <ikonia> Guest77169: plus backtrack is dead
[17:03] <cinvoke> lotuspsychje: this link explains how to set it up, but im having trouble understanding why i would need both....seems redundant, right?
[17:03] <michael__> network is still down
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> cinvoke: you installed ubuntu on a hd that has encryption?
[17:03] <usr13> michael__: Try the Network Manager
[17:04] <Guest77169> ikonia:how is backtrack dead
[17:04] <ikonia> Guest77169: in that it's dead
[17:04] <ikonia> Guest77169: read their webpage
[17:04] <michael__> usr13, nothing new
[17:04] <tmmunq> oh, because they changed the name to kali? :/
[17:05] <michael__> wireless window still grey
[17:05] <usr13> michael__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure nm-applet
[17:05] <cinvoke> lotuspsychje: no.  it asks if you want to encrypt the filesystem.  i chose yes.  now it requires a pw to mount during boot.  plus its asking if i want to encrypt the home folder.  what im wondering is how that would be useful if ive already encrypted the filesystem
[17:05] <Jahm> Can I install xfce alongside with my 12.04 Ubuntu?
[17:05] <michael__> nm-applet not installed
[17:06] <usr13> Jahm: yes
[17:06] <Jahm> usr13: is this the right way? http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-xfce-4-10-on-ubuntu-13-04-12-10-12-04-and-linux-mint-15-14-13/
[17:06] <usr13> michael__: Are you using Wicd?  Or Network Manager?
[17:06] <michael__> network manager
[17:06] <cinvoke> Jahm: i used both gdm and xfce4 on xubuntu, so i imagine you can
[17:06] <usr13> Jahm: Are you running Linux Mint?
[17:06] <Jahm> No
[17:06] <Jahm> Ubuntu 12.04
[17:07] <usr13> Jahm: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[17:07] <michael__> whats wicd?
[17:07] <Jahm> My laptop is an old Intel Atom, and it feels like Unity is heavy for my laptop
[17:07] <usr13> michael__: sudo apt-get install nm-applet
[17:07] <Jahm> So as I was doing a research, xfce is more lightweight compared to it
[17:07] <HackerII> Jahm  it will be for that atom
[17:08] <michael__> can't find package
[17:08] <Jahm> usr13: Thanks
[17:08] <Jahm> Gonna try it
[17:08] <HackerII> xfce will be excekkent for it tho
[17:08] <HackerII> excellent
[17:08] <Jahm> Ahh
[17:08] <HackerII> also
[17:08] <usr13> Jahm: Yea, you'll prolly like it if you are strictly into functionallity.  (I use xfce too.)
[17:08] <HackerII> have 2g of ram, itl be nice
[17:09] <Jahm> Yeah was planning to upgrade it to 2GB of  RAM
[17:09] <Jahm> I currently have 1GB though
[17:09] <HackerII> dont wait
[17:09] <Jahm> DDR2 is hard to find these days
[17:09] <HackerII> ya
[17:09] <Jahm> Thanks to both of you
[17:09] <HackerII> Jahm  is it intel graphics too ?
[17:09] <usr13> Jahm: 1G RAM is a little on the fringe for Unity.
[17:09] <Jahm> Yes
[17:09] <HackerII> good
[17:09] <Jahm> usr13: true
[17:10] <michael__> usr13, can't find the package
[17:10] <HackerII> Jahm  try amazon
[17:10] <usr13> michael__: sudo apt-get install wicd
[17:10] <Jahm> HackerII: No Amazon for third world countries :\
[17:10] <HackerII> D`oh!
[17:10] <HackerII> try pc 5300
[17:10] <michael__>  Starting Network connection manager wicd                              [fail]
[17:11] <michael__> installed
[17:11] <usr13> michael__: Reboot
[17:11] <michael__> ok
[17:11] <Jahm> By the way
[17:11] <Jahm> Why am I having problems with add-apt-repository ?
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> cinvoke: not sure whats the difference but i think encrypting home leaves the user the choice
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> someone know if a user can choose not to encrypt his /home on an encrypted system?
[17:13] <Guest77169> ikonia:so what do i do
[17:13] <ikonia> Guest77169: in what respect, what do you do ?
[17:13] <Guest77169> ikonia:i just checked site is still alive
[17:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyo, question. I'd like to configure a keyboard shortcut that 1. Opens a gnome-terminal with a certain profile if it is not open, 2. Minimizes said term if open and 3. maximizes said term if minimized, with one key.
[17:14] <Guest77169> ikonia:hw do i install de backtrack apps in xubuntu
[17:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest77169: compile from source.
[17:14] <ikonia> Guest77169: backtack is dead
[17:14] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: no not at all
[17:15] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: you shouldn't mix repos - especially from a dead project
[17:15] <cinvoke> lotuspsychje: thx. ill try both.  hopefully this doesnt end in flames
[17:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: its dead? and I did not say mix repos, I said compile from source.
[17:15] <Guest77169> ikonia:i am not sure backtrack is dead
[17:15] <ikonia> Guest77169: my tip - look at kali-linux
[17:15] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: yes, and that is a bad idea
[17:15] <ikonia> Guest77169: I'm %101 postitive
[17:16] <HackerII> backtrack was cool
[17:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> don't see how, considering alot of good apps are done so. Higan from the repos is so junkie that compiling from source is the only option.
[17:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> I still have a bt5r3 iso somewehre...
[17:16] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: I'm sorry, no, the whole point of the repos is to stop that sort of behaviour, epecially for inexperienced used
[17:18] <Guest77169> ikonia:ok i see kali-linux will download and try
[17:18] <DeadManINDIA> Hello friends
[17:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: if he's looking to fiddle with bt he better dang well be experienced. And just saying no to compiling from  source is very autocratic behavior.
[17:19] <arun> hi guys how to make my computer a ftp server throughout the internet?
[17:19] <ikonia> arun: install an ftp server
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> !ftp | arun
[17:19] <ABDULLAH> hey @
[17:19] <ABDULLAH> I need help
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> !ask | ABDULLAH
[17:20] <DeadManINDIA> i face problm to connect with the net wit dual booting in backtack
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> DeadManINDIA: BT is not supported here
[17:20] <ikonia> DeadManINDIA: back track is dead, we do not support backtrack here
[17:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> DeadManINDIA: not a backtrack support thread.
[17:20] <Jahm> as
[17:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: on another note, when did it die? and what do you mean exactly dead? as in no more releases?
[17:21] <arun> ikonia: will it automatically broadcast my Hard disk to the internet?
[17:21] <DeadManINDIA> kk thanks
[17:21] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: dead, as in over, ended, check the dcs on kali-linux
[17:21] <ikonia> arun: no, you need to configure it
[17:22] <arun> ikonia: how to please help me man, I will get sick if you ask me to google it fot
[17:22] <ABDULLAH> I was using windows 8 but I installed Ubuntu 13.04 and the entire hard disk get formatted.
[17:22] <Vlyn> Hello there! I'm searching for an Ubuntu theme. When I watched the movie Elysium I fell in love with this interface: http://i.imgur.com/BGtTmzv.jpg (Of course it was better in the cinema). So I'm searching something similar as a Theme. Good tags would be glass (or glass like) but I haven't found anything suitable :-/ anyone got an idea?
[17:22] <ikonia> arun: https://help.ubuntu.com https://wiki.ubuntu.com - lots of docs on here including how to setup an ftp server
[17:22] <ABDULLAH> Can i recover my hard disk?
[17:22] <ikonia> arun: nope
[17:23] <HackerII> lol
[17:23] <ABDULLAH> Pls?
[17:23] <ikonia> oops
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | ABDULLAH
[17:23] <ikonia> ABDULLAH: no, you can't
[17:23] <arun> ikonia: man do i need to buy some thing?>
[17:23] <DeadManINDIA> any one tell me where is the network configrations files in ubuntu
[17:23] <ikonia> arun: no, I need to learn how to type, as I hit the wrong nickname
[17:24] <ikonia> DeadManINDIA: are you using ubuntu desktop ?
[17:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: wow, interesting to know.
[17:24] <haxxpop> when i try to browse http://haxxpop.in.th it redirect to http://localhost, i don't know why, help me please
[17:24] <DeadManINDIA> ya Backtrack is made by modifiy the ubuntu i think if i am not erong
[17:25] <ikonia> DeadManINDIA: are you using backtrack or ubuntu
[17:25] <DeadManINDIA> backtrack
[17:25] <ikonia> DeadManINDIA: right - so stop telling people it's ubuntu,
[17:25] <ikonia> DeadManINDIA: back track is dead - it's not supported, so PLEASE stop asking
[17:25] <DeadManINDIA> kk thanks for inform me
[17:26] <ikonia> no problem.
[17:26] <Jahm> Why did they kill it?
[17:26] <ikonia> ask them
[17:26] <DeadManINDIA> so plz tell me where i put our question relate it
[17:26] <ikonia> DeadManINDIA: not here, backtrack is dead, it's not supported so I don't know
[17:26] <Jahm> #backtrack ?
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> !alis | DeadManINDIA
[17:27] <somewad> http://gyazo.com/716a0a8103acf255dc0d194cec94f30f
[17:27] <somewad> is that normal ?
[17:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> DeadManINDIA: but its still not supported here, even if it is based on ubuntu.
[17:27] <michael__> usr13,  reboot done. ethernet cable eject nothing happens no wifi
[17:27] <ABDULLAH> @ubutto can I recover my lost files?
[17:28] <somewad> http://gyazo.com/716a0a8103acf255dc0d194cec94f30f <---- is that normal ?
[17:28] <Slart> !undelete | ABDULLAH
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> ABDULLAH: i just triggered you a package for recovery lost data
[17:28] <ikonia> ABDULLAH: no
[17:31] <Jahm> Which irc client are you using?
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> !poll | Jahm
[17:31] <arun> ikonia: man can't find
[17:32] <arun> ikonia: need some help
[17:32] <ikonia> arun: with what
[17:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> arun: testdisc and photorec are good for recovery
[17:33] <michael__> lotuspsychje,  have you another idea about my wifi i installed wicd and restart, but nothing happens
[17:33] <arun> ikonia: with setting up my laptop's HD to the internet ftp
[17:33] <ferr> could anyone help me with hdd management
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> michael__: maybe google some driver issues for your wifi chipset or firmware updates
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> ferr: what are you trying to do exactly?
[17:36] <michael__> lotuspsychje, i already googled. There are intel driver for the the chipset, but i don't get it installed. And there was a solution with a iwlagn command, but command didn't work there is no iwlagn at my pc
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> arun: setup an ftp server for ubuntu
[17:36] <lotus> Hey, Using Lubuntu and just ran a normal update.  Gimp won't start.  Says something about unable to load the fglrx and that I should load it manually as root?  Any idea how to load fglrx manually or fix gimp?
[17:36] <arun> lotuspsychje: how to man?
[17:36] <ironhalik> Hmm, I've got a peculiar problem. On 13.04, all peripherals stopped working after reboot. Only one display lights up, no mouse, keyboard, network. Any ideas what could cause it?
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> arun: first find an ftp package of your choice in software centre
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> arun: then you need the ftp server configged, folder, ip, logins and passwords
[17:37] <arun> lotuspsychje: yes I have got filezilla server and client
[17:38] <arun> lotuspsychje: do i need to buy a public ip ?
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> arun: no you need your own ip, if you run the ftp server on your own box
[17:39] <arun> lotuspsychje:then which ip address should I connet to?
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> arun after you set up your ftp server, test yourself with gftp own ip login/pass
[17:40] <arun> man
[17:40] <usr13> michael__: lspci |grep ireless |pastebinit
[17:40] <arun> lotuspsychje: then which ip address should I connet to?
[17:40] <usr13> michael__: Send URL
[17:40] <lotus> Hey, if anyone comes in here asking about gimp not starting after a normal Lubuntu update, let them know to apt-get purge fglrx-updates and then apt-get install fglrx-updates fglrx-amdcccle-updates
[17:40] <lotus> that worked nicely
[17:41] <digitalirony> sup
[17:41] <daftykins> outdated AMD causes GIMP to fail? 0o
[17:41] <digitalirony> I am having some NFS/nsswitch/idmapd issues
[17:41] <digitalirony> would this be a good place for help on this
[17:41] <digitalirony> or another place
[17:41] <daftykins> #networking probably
[17:41] <daftykins> might be ##
[17:41] <HackerII> daftykins  which one is it
[17:41] <dfarmer> Hi all, rebooted my computer last night and now can't login with my user account. Created a new user and I am able to login. I tried moving the ~/.config/ of the broken user and login but that didn't work. Any other ideas how I can fix my original user account (Ubuntu 12.04)
[17:41] <daftykins> HackerII: which one is what?
[17:42] <usr13> michael__: Still there?
[17:42] <HackerII> amd
[17:42] <michael__> usr13,  nothing happens with this command
[17:42] <daftykins> HackerII: i was talking in relation to lotus' statements
[17:42] <ABDULLAH> what's the command to install .tar.gz package?
[17:42] <usr13> michael__: lspci |pastebinit
[17:42] <HackerII> o ok
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> !tar | ABDULLAH
[17:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> ABDULLAH: untar it, configure it, and then make + make install. there should usually be a README or INSTALL text with details.
[17:44] <michael__> usr13,  i post it in private, my ff wont start
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> michael__: did you clean install ubuntu or upgrade?
[17:47] <enen92> hey folks, can any1 point me at a way of changing this awfull terminal color schemes? http://s23.postimg.org/cmvqg80ff/Captura_de_ecra_de_2013_08_21_18_26_27.png
[17:48] <enen92> is it possible to import configurations from other ubuntu based distros?
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> enen92: change your color scheme in profile
[17:48] <Jahm> usr13: are you still there?
[17:48] <Jahm> Which one should I select, Xfce Session or Xubuntu Session?
[17:49] <enen92> lotuspsychje: what is the path to the configuration file of the terminal?
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> !terminal | enen92
[17:51] <enen92> thanks lotus sorry for the noob question
[17:51] <enen92> haven't realised it was so easy
[17:52] <enen92> take care
[17:53] <ABDULLAH> is .deb a installer package?
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> !deb | ABDULLAH
[17:54] <xentity1x> Hi I setup an http server on my laptop thats behind a netgear wireless router. Can someone tell me how to access it remotely?
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> xentity1x: maybe ## networking channel might help you out
[17:54] <xentity1x> thanks
[17:54] <daftykins> xentity1x: that's more a good question for ##networking - although look up port forwarding port 80
[17:55] <ABDULLAH> how can I update my ubuntu 13.04 it's different from ubuntu 12.04.
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | daftykins
[17:55] <daftykins> aww thanks lotus
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> :p
[17:55] <daftykins> you did get there before me, alas
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> !upgrade | ABDULLAH
[17:55] <daftykins> but you know how it is, you have something typed out and you'd feel sad if you just backspaced it :(
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: were al here for same support reason :p
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> no sweat
[17:56] <ABDULLAH> no man just updates provided daily.
[17:56] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: yeah just making convo ;)
[17:57] <ABDULLAH> what's the best pdf viewer for Ubuntu?
[17:57] <usr13> ABDULLAH: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:57] <simen> How can I enable VNC from the commandline(ssh) on a ubuntu box?
[17:57] <eph3meral> so I've been having lots of borderline random difficult to reproduce but consistent (several times per day) crashes under XFCE on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit, I have googled for a while now but haven't found anything to solve this, has anyone else been experiencing this?
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> !info mupdf | ABDULLAH
[17:58] <sudobash> Just wanted to let yall know, been an Ubuntu user since 2006, and I think yall have fucked it beyond recognition, I hope yall are happy about that and if you don't listen to your users, instead of being the favorite distro of everyone it is going to instead be the most hated distro and most dissappointed when it had the most potential... Yalls screwed the pooch hard on this one and I don't see yall come out of it ever, Unity is c
[17:58] <sudobash> ompelte crap and all the changes making it hard to get to software sources and install 3rd part utilites is insane in itself.  I hope to see Canonical be flushed down the toilet soon for what it's done to an amazing operating system, shame on you Mark Shuttleworth for destr
[17:58] <FloodBot1> sudobash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:58] <usr13> !vnc  | simen
[17:58] <ABDULLAH> keyboard shortcut to open terminal??
[18:00] <usr13> sudobash: What version are you using?
[18:00] <eph3meral> I get a crash report, but when I go to view the details it just says xfce4-session was the culprit, but instead of bringing up details, the little pinwheel spinner just sits there forever
[18:01] <ABDULLAH> what's the keyboard shortcut to open ubuntu terminal??Plsl
[18:02] <sudobash> I dont even want to talk about it, it's sad really, I'm a NIX admin and I hate Ubuntu Now, good job ppl...
[18:02] <genii> ABDULLAH: Usually ctrl-alt-t
[18:02] <ABDULLAH> thanks genii.
[18:03] <usr13> sudobash: If you have a support question, you're welcome to ask it, but opinions are wasted on us as this is a support channel, we are interested in support, not opinions or discussions about how much someone dislikesany particular distro.
[18:03] <k1l> sudobash: this channel is for technical ubuntu support and not for ranting. please stick to the guidelines
[18:03] <usr13> sudobash: You can also join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:03] <ironhalik> regarding support... :>
[18:04] <sudobash> yeah that's what I thought, nazi attitude, never gonna change and it's always been like this
[18:04] <ironhalik> Hmm, I've got a peculiar problem. On 13.04, all peripherals stopped working after reboot. Only one display lights up, no mouse, keyboard, network. Any ideas what could cause it?
[18:04] <thepeopleschamp> can someone link me to a page where i can see all off Apple Inc shareholders?
[18:04] <bean> thepeopleschamp: ... this is an ubuntu support channel.
[18:04] <daftykins> thepeopleschamp: that's nothing to do with Ubuntu
[18:05] <thepeopleschamp> i know, but google is just not givin me the correct answers
[18:05] <k1l> !ot | thepeopleschamp
[18:06] <daum> hey guys - i just isntalled php5 on my ubuntu and installed the php5-mysql however when i enabled the extension i get the following:  /usr/lib/php5/20100525/pdo_mysql.so: undefined symbol: pdo_parse_params it doesn't appear maybe pdo is enabled? but php --info shows that it is?
[18:06] <ellipsis_> I'm trying to use "apt-get --force-yes install apache2..." but I still get asked "Do you want to continue...". I can't work out how I'm using the command wrong. Could someone please help me?
[18:06] <sudobash> alright well just so you know, I went to Linux when I was 12 and just went back to Windows as my main OS because of how much yall have fucked Ubuntu/Debian over
[18:06] <ironhalik> ellipsis_: you want apt to assume yes?
[18:07] <usr13> ellipsis_: sudo apt-get install apache2
[18:07] <ironhalik> ellipsis_: the command is apt-get install -y apache2
[18:07] <mmazing_work> i'm trying to figure out a way to cause icons on the unity launcher to "jiggle" repeatedly until clicked
[18:07] <ironhalik> ellipsis_: or --yes or --assume-yes
[18:08] <ellipsis_> ironhalik, Yes. I thought that's what force-yes did. Should I use --yes with it?
[18:08] <bean> daum: php has pdo built in as of 5.3 i think
[18:08] <bean> so you dont need the extenstion
[18:08] <ironhalik> ellipsis_: apt-get install apache2 --assume-yes
[18:08] <mmazing_work> or ... to display a message in the top right of the screen like battery notifications that won't go away until clicked
[18:08] <ironhalik> it won't ask for confirmation
[18:08] <ironhalik> ellipsis_: short form is '-y' flag
[18:09] <cantinstallgrub> Hello. I don't know how much if this has to do with the "K" part and how much of it has to do with the "ubuntu" part, but I'm trying to install Kubuntu on a laptop with UEFI (Asus UX31A, aka Zenbook Prime) and the installer is unable to install grub-efi at the end of the installation for some reason I can't explain. Is this a known problem? What should I do?
[18:10] <ellipsis_> ironhalik, Thank you.
[18:10] <ironhalik> ellipsis_: np
[18:11] <mmazing_work> what's the apt command to download the source for a package?
[18:12] <jpds> mmazing_work: apt-get source <package>
[18:12] <mmazing_work> jpds: thanks
[18:12] <Tom_> Hello.
[18:13] <Tom_> Any one on I need some help?
[18:13] <k1l> !details | Tom_
[18:14] <Tom_> Okay well I am running a Asus notebook on windows 8 and I tried to instal raring ringtail/13.04 and it wasnt working on wubi so I used internet tutorials to launch the disk and hit install along side after turning off secure boot and now my hardrive is cut in half and is in two sectors and every time I install ubuntu it wont recongnize it.
[18:15] <Tom_> I also no longer have a UEFI boot option in my bios.
[18:15] <Tom_> and it only launches windows, the grub wont start either.
[18:16] <Tom_> Is there specifics I am supposed to do when I do somthing else with install?
[18:17] <Tom_> Oh and I am reseting my computer for the second time now using the windows 8 option to try and get rid of the seperate patrition to try and get it back to normal.
[18:17] <Tom_> And thats about it.
[18:17] <pepper_chico> http://askubuntu.com/questions/335489/is-there-a-way-to-define-a-hotkey-to-unhide-the-launcher
[18:19] <Tom_> So any one have ideas on how to either return it to factory settings without the new patrition or how to get ubuntu's grub to start up on load?
[18:22] <aranya> Tom : Not sure how to answer your question, but maybe give you two hints ...
[18:22] <aranya> Tom : 1 - use gparted and restore partitions and use windows repair disk if needed for your boot
[18:23] <jahm_> How do I connect a network drive in Ubuntu?
[18:24] <aranya> Tom : 2 - I installed xubuntu along side windows on an acer aspire 1 and best is to let default install for partitionning else if you do yourself it messes up with grub boot, it's best to let it do all by itself
[18:24] <Tom_> I tried the windows recovery disks and they just replaced the files can you give me a link to making or getting a repair disk and I should've told you that it said that the operation could not be undone when I hit the button
[18:24] <mmazing_work> I'm trying to find where in the unity source it "jiggles" the icons for the "demands-attention" version of icons on the unity launcher. Anyone have any experience with the unity source?
[18:25] <Tom_> Okay, my problem though is I let it do it itself and it didnt work so I ended up with a 500gb unaccessable raw Virtual harddrive that I couldnt access and my UEFI boot option dissapeared from bios.
[18:25] <Tom_> I guess I can try repair maybe it will work.
[18:25] <aranya> Tom : Can you boot in windows or not ?
[18:26] <Tom_> I can.
[18:26] <Tom_> Its all i can boot its my only boot option.
[18:26] <aranya> ok so you just need to reset partiions then
[18:26] <Tom_> Okay.
[18:26] <aranya> and restart with install ubuntu if you want to have it
[18:26] <mmazing_work> Tom_: does grub come up at all or just windows?
[18:26] <aranya> the best way is :
[18:26] <Tom_> Just Windows mmazingwork
[18:27] <mmazing_work> Tom_: have you tried this ? - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:27] <Tom_> So how do I reset my partritions in windows 8 do you know because if I can then I will try to install ubuntu.
[18:28] <aranya> 1- make empty space along side windows, 2- boot install ubuntu disk, then let him say "install ubuntu alongside windows, then choose default install (nothing fancy), then let him install files
[18:28] <aranya> when you reboot, you should have a list with ubuntu, ... then last windows
[18:28] <Tom_> Okay just like my Acer Inspiron then.
[18:28] <mmazing_work> Tom_: it sounds to my like grub is just screwed up, i would try the boot-repair option before messing with partitions, less likely to lose data
[18:28] <aranya> gparted is best to reset your partitions on disk
[18:29] <aranya> but be carefull not to mess up the windows one else, nothing left
[18:29] <Tom_> Well I dont have any data on my laptop any more I just want to get it back to default.
[18:29] <mmazing_work> ah
[18:29] <Tom_> Its just the OS
[18:29] <mmazing_work> well, boot-repair will probably be the fastest method as well :)
[18:30] <aranya> yes agree ;)
[18:30] <Tom_> Okay well once it is done reseting I will install ubuntu into the 500gb of unallocated space and try boot repair before restarting the computer.
[18:31] <Tom_> Thanks for the help :)
[18:31] <mmazing_work> oh, i was under the impression that you still had a copy of linux somewhere out there on your drive
[18:31] <mmazing_work> so it's just windows
[18:32] <nachoLog> I have 13.04 desktop on a thinkpad x220 and when i plug in my external acer hard drive it doesnt show up in the launcher. is there a way i can manually locate it because i see the blue light going on the exhdd?
[18:32] <Tom_> Yes its just windows and a bunch of unallocated memory.
[18:32] <mmazing_work> ah, ok, well if you reinstall ubuntu and you don't get grub, try the boot-repair thingy
[18:32] <Tom_> okay.
[18:33] <Tom_> Is there any specific place I should put the boot loaders when doing the somthing else install and anyspecific partritions I should make?
[18:34] <aranya> nope, let him do by itself, default, easier for no problem install ...
[18:35] <Tom_> But if I do default it will require taking more space from windows or is there a option to make a VHD and then do default install on there?
[18:35] <Tom_> because I recap it has 500 gigs of unallocated that is the real problem.
[18:35] <Jahm> What vnc client do you use?
[18:35] <Tom_> vnc?
[18:36] <aranya> if you do default, it will use the 500, else have to resize your partitions ...
[18:36] <Tom_> Oh cool.
[18:36] <Tom_> Okay well once its done I will try to install.
[18:36] <BluesKaj> tom , if you have a windows install grub will install itself on the mbr by default
[18:36] <Tom_> I need ubuntu to work on the student ran servers at school.