[00:00] <sfj> daftykins: this is true hah
[00:00] <usr13> sfj: More-than-likely, you won't need it much.
[00:00] <timo_> how come?
[00:00] <sfj> I'm just scared of ungodly bad battery life that I had back in Ubuntu 7
[00:01] <usr13> sfj: ... if you're like 90% of us ...
[00:01] <sfj> Granted the laptop was awful, but I had ~3 hours in Windows, and ~1.5 in Ubuntu
[00:01] <galaaaa> have anyone idea how could i print out this kind of information about an ac3 file? http://104.imagebam.com/download/bDXi8DyRILlIoRrHNGrY8g/29078/290777806/proof.png
[00:02] <daftykins> galaaaa: can you link to a viewing rather than downloading image?
[00:02] <|1li> hi
[00:03] <galaaaa> yes sorry http://www.imagebam.com/image/2ed568290777806
[00:03] <sfj> I guess I can just install it and try
[00:03] <usr13> sfj: I do not know much about your particular laptop or battery, so can not speak to you about battery life.  My laptop will stay up for 4 to 6 hours, depending on what I do with it, (depends a lot on what you are doing with a laptop how long a battery charge will last).
[00:04] <sfj> I'm talking a Lenovo W530 that gets ~9 hours on light use in Windows
[00:04] <galaaaa> i have seen that image on a site, and i couldn't come to the software of which they were using for that kind of information, because mediainfo doesn't print out that deep informations
[00:04] <daftykins> sfj: you're unlikely to get battery life matching Windows on laptops, what are you *really* wanting to do?
[00:05] <galaaaa> daftykins you maybe have any idea about that?
[00:06] <usr13> sfj: If you don't turn it on, the battery will last indefinitely.
[00:06] <daftykins> galaaaa: it definitely looks like mediainfo, you just need to configure it right and set it to output to the correct type
[00:06] <galaaaa> yeah? you think so, hmmm
[00:07] <sfj> I really will only use the battery when surfing the web, email, etc.  I'll be using the machine for Python programming, virtualizing servers (Windows and Linux), C programming, etc.
[00:07] <sfj> usr13: i'll try that sometime
[00:07] <sfj> hah
[00:07] <sfj> and I work in an environment where we support Windows, Mac, and Linux
[00:07] <sfj> I'd like to get better with the latter
[00:07] <galaaaa> daftykins :D thanks for that :D it took me two seconds and now with the -f option in mediainfo cli i can print out detailed info
[00:08] <daftykins> ^_^
[00:08] <daftykins> galaaaa: glad i could help
[00:08] <galaaaa> yeah, i was googling for like hours
[00:08] <galaaaa> for other programs or something, but never thought about that mediainfo could do things like that
[00:11] <vespakoen> Hey guys, I am looking for a way to hide the appmenu in xubuntu 13.10 (+ xmonad)  I have tried many things but they all failed, people are telling me it is not possible, since it is handled at the application level, however, I am wondering if anyone here knows how ubuntu / gnome achieve it?
[00:12] <Anuska> question, if i have dinamic ip how i configure /etc/hosts ?
[00:13] <daftykins> Anuska: hosts has nothing to do with DHCP
[00:16] <Sc0rp10n> hey guys
[00:17] <Sc0rp10n> I'm having a problem with my ubuntu server which is hosting a website
[00:17] <Sc0rp10n> when I do df -k
[00:17] <Sc0rp10n> it says /dev/xvda1 is 100% full
[00:18] <daftykins> Sc0rp10n: can you use paste.ubuntu.com to show "df -h" ?
[00:18] <Sc0rp10n> is there a way to figure out what is taking so much space?
[00:18] <Sc0rp10n> sure
[00:19] <Sc0rp10n> there you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/6527390/
[00:20] <Sc0rp10n> can I find out what is taking all that space?
[00:20] <Sc0rp10n> or is there a way to extend xvda1?
[00:20] <daftykins> wow yeah you're full alright
[00:20] <Sc0rp10n> yea and it's not allowing us to write to the disk
[00:21] <Sc0rp10n> and the server is live
[00:21] <Goldman60> Is it a virtual server?
[00:21] <Sc0rp10n> so it's a big problem right no
[00:21] <Sc0rp10n> yes
[00:21] <Sc0rp10n> amazon ec2
[00:21] <daftykins> Sc0rp10n: do "cd /var/log" then "du -h"
[00:21] <daftykins> and paste the output of that second command to paste.ubuntu.com again
[00:22] <Goldman60> to straight up expand the drive I would assume you need to give Amazon more money
[00:22] <kosmo_> daftykins: I see. Thank you for your time :)
[00:22] <Sc0rp10n> there you go daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/6527405/
[00:22] <Sc0rp10n> money is not an issue
[00:22] <Goldman60> that looks normal to me
[00:23] <Sc0rp10n> yea
[00:23] <Sc0rp10n> it takes like 33m
[00:23] <Goldman60> Are you expecting there to be 50GB of used space?
[00:23] <Goldman60> or is that out of what you would expect?
[00:23] <Sc0rp10n> well we have an assets directory inside /opt
[00:24] <Sc0rp10n> which is full of swfs
[00:24] <daftykins> Sc0rp10n: cd / then du -h again plz
[00:24] <Sc0rp10n> that's going through each file daftykins
[00:24] <Sc0rp10n> you mean df -k?
[00:26] <Goldman60> this may help if you just want to expand the drive through Amazon, I would reccomend figuring out *why* its full too http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/RootDeviceStorage.html#RootDeviceUsageScenarios
[00:28] <daftykins> Sc0rp10n: whilst you're in /, "du -h --max-depth=1 > ~/file" then paste.ubuntu.com ~/file
[00:29] <Sc0rp10n> alright
[00:29] <michaelwang32> how can i get drivers for nvidia vanta 16mb
[00:29] <daftykins> michaelwang32: it's way too old. give up
[00:30] <michaelwang32> i am helping a friend and i need the drivers for nvidia vanta 16mb
[00:31] <bekks> michaelwang32: that cartd is way too old.
[00:33] <michaelwang32> how can i get drivers for nvidia vanta 16mb
[00:33] <michaelwang32> how can i get drivers for nvidia vanta 16mb
[00:33] <michaelwang32> how can i get drivers for nvidia vanta 16mb
[00:33] <michaelwang32> how can i get drivers for nvidia vanta 16mb
[00:33] <FloodBot1> michaelwang32: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:33] <daftykins> michaelwang32: like i told you, too old.
[00:33] <bekks> michaelwang32: That card isnt supported anymore, by nvidia.
[00:35] <Guest96814> i just ran sudo grub-mkconfig and i get the error "error: failed to find canonical path /cow" any ideas what this means?
[00:35] <Beldar> Guest96814, where was this run?
[00:36] <Anuska> what happend in phpmyadmin: when i want to import (Max: 8,192KiB)  ... but i change in php.ini
[00:36] <Guest96814> Beldar: from the ubuntu 13.10 live dvd, i ran "cd /" then "sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[00:37] <Guest96814> i dont get it, what the hell is /cow?
[00:37] <Beldar> Guest96814, you have to chroot to make any changes, what is the end goal here?
[00:38] <Anuska> PHP Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 262144 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 523800 bytes) in Unknown on line 0
[00:38] <Guest96814> Beldar: to generate a bare grub.cfg and install grub to my mbr
[00:38] <Beldar> Guest96814, this a dualboot, is there any uefi involved?
[00:38] <Goldman60> Anuska your code is overflowing the memory allocated to PHP
[00:39] <Goldman60> you either need to find what is using the memory or allocate more in php.ini
[00:39] <Guest96814> Beldar: yes its an efi version 1, but i am booting grub in cms mode
[00:39] <Anuska> Goldman60 i resolve the problem
[00:39] <bekks> Anuska: Or use mysql for importing, instead of a web gui. :)
[00:39] <Anuska> but i want to import database more then (Max: 8,192KiB)  using phpmyadmin
[00:39] <Anuska> and i change but...
[00:39] <Beldar> Guest96814, cms mode?
[00:40] <Guest96814> Beldar: by cms mode i mean the efi firmware creates a fake bois for me to boot in non efi mode
[00:40] <Anuska> using mysql -u username -p -h localhost DATA-BASE-NAME < data.sql
[00:40] <Beldar> Guest96814, have you tried the bootrepair? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[00:40] <Guest96814> Beldar: from the eyes from grub or the os, it can see a real bios, and has access to int10 for graphics and all the jazz
[00:41] <Guest96814> Beldar: i dont have a gui to browse the web from
[00:41] <Goldman60> Guest96814: What are you booting that needs BIOS on an EFI only system?  If you don't mind me asking
[00:41] <ryan__> how can i get vitrualdj?
[00:41] <Guest96814> Beldar: do you know what /cow is, and why grub would say it can not find it
[00:41] <Sc0rp10n> hey daftykins, that process is taking way too long dude
[00:41] <Beldar> Guest96814, I know grub pretty well, but not in a uefi environment, and don't really recognize what your trying to do.
[00:42] <Sc0rp10n> I just checked our amazon instance and yes the volume size is 50GB
[00:42] <Guest96814> Goldman60: ubuntu and windows xp
[00:42] <Goldman60> ah Windows XP
[00:42] <Goldman60> Ubuntu can boot with Native EFI as long as its a new enough version
[00:42] <Guest96814> Goldman60: this hardware is efi version 1, and i cant seem to get ubuntu to start a gui in efi mode
[00:43] <daftykins> you could go folder by folder in / until you find where the big stuff is - i'm not sure on a better way :S
[00:43] <Guest96814> Goldman60: even from the 13.10 live dvd, when i boot in efi mode i just get a stuck on the boot screen, i can access tty1 though
[00:44] <Goldman60> Have you checked your bios to see if you can switch it to legacy/BIOS instead of EFI?
[00:46] <Guest96814> Goldman60: the legacy bios mode only kicks in if you boot from the MBR, there is no option in the firmware to do it. i was very supprised to but i guess its cus its a very early implamention i had to do a firmware update just to get the cms support
[00:46] <daftykins> Sc0rp10n: oops forgot to highlight you in the above ^
[00:46] <Phoenixz> If I install the frglx driver for an ATI 7790 card, and I would change the graphic card for another ATI 7950 after that, do I have to reinstall this driver again, or should it just conitinue working?
[00:47] <Guest96814> Goldman60: last time to get this to work, i booted ubuntu up, install grub using "grub-install --target-i386 /dev/sda" and then i just booted the ubuntu live cd from inside grub shell and boom i was in CMS/bios mode from then on
[00:48] <Goldman60> Guest96814 I am not very experienced with GRUB, but that is a silly EFI implementation
[00:48] <Sc0rp10n> hey no worries daftykins
[00:48] <Guest96814> Beldar: i would like to install grub to my mbr, in fact i can it work with grub-install. my issue is i cant generate a grub.cfg file as the grub-mkconfig returns the strange "cant find /cow error"
[00:49] <Sc0rp10n> I'm taking the snapshot of the volume online and gonna try something else
[00:49] <Sc0rp10n> like cleaning files
[00:49] <Guest96814> Goldman60: i see, would you happen to know what "/cow"? and why it can not be found
[00:49] <Beldar> Guest96814, I have never put grub in the mbr that way, what is the issue with getting the desktop on the dvd?
[00:49] <Goldman60> I found a (possible) solution but I can't type it out since I gotta go http://askubuntu.com/questions/207663/cannot-update-grub-with-paramters-on-live-usb
[00:50] <Guest96814> Goldman60: "grub-probe error: can not find canonical path of /cow" is the full error message, so this is something to do with grub-proble i think
[00:50] <Guest96814> Beldar: how would you normal install grub?
[00:50] <Beldar> Guest96814, I would just chroot in  and and put grub in the mbr that way
[00:50] <Goldman60> that error is in the link I posted
[00:51] <Goldman60> if you can open it with W3M or equivalent
[00:51] <Guest96814> Beldar: when i boot in efi mode on the ubuntu dvd, my screen stays on the init screen with a bunch of starting.... OK message, if i run sudo startx i get the following error
[00:51] <Beldar> Guest96814, I just use suprgrub and do it from the desktop, but I never have this problem, I keep my ducks in a row.
[00:52] <Guest96814> Beldar: Fatal error: no screen found
[00:52] <Beldar> I don;t have any efi though
[00:52] <CountryfiedLinux> Can anyone make sense of this? http://pastebin.com/STfFVE38
[00:53] <varange> hi you stoned slackers
[00:53] <Guest96814> Beldar: i will boot the arch linux dvd, there is no gui on there and i bet that will startup just fine. then i can install grub using that hopefully
[00:54] <Guest96814> Beldar: thanks for the time
[00:54] <Beldar> varange, Heh I was for 30 years, rarely now. ;)
[00:54] <Beldar> still slack though
[00:54] <Anuska> question about apache+mysql+php with smtp
[00:55] <Anuska> i have smtp to other server ! ssl
[00:55] <Anuska> but i want to send email using my linux via stmp (smtp to the ssl webmail )
[00:55] <Anuska> is oki?
[00:55] <Anuska> not affected the email no?
[00:59] <varange> Beldar, you sad sad person :)
[01:03] <Beldar> varange, nice projection.
[01:04] <varange> Beldar, it is
[01:05] <varange> What is "relative humidity"? DEf: The perspiration on the scrotum when making love to one's cousin
[01:05] <gpb> any suggestions on a way to update 7.04 to 13.04 without a cdrom?
[01:06] <Beldar> !ops | varange
[01:06] <varange> gpb, where on earth did you find 7.04? the Ark?
[01:06] <varange> Aww beldar
[01:06] <varange> be nice
[01:06] <IdleOne> varange: keep it family friendly in here please
[01:07] <gpb> on a machine that typically used by someone else that doesn't use Linux much/at all
[01:08] <Beldar> gpb, Not really an up-dateable situation.
[01:09] <Beldar> gpb, Will the computer boot a usb?
[01:09] <gpb> beldar, yeah I tried setting the sources and doing an update, it goes into some kind of infinite loop when processing the package lists
[01:10] <Beldar> gpb, It would take days and I suspect braek along the way.
[01:11] <Beldar> !eol | gpb here is the info though
[01:12] <gpb> I was thinking d/ling the ISO, then making an entry in grub that boots an loop mount of it
[01:12] <Beldar> gpb, easy with grub 2 never done it with grub legacy.
[01:13] <Beldar> a grub boot of 13.04 as a fresh install would be ideal.
[01:14] <gpb> Yes, I understand the eol and what not.... need a way to upgrade so I can mount an udb device that is not recognized by 7.0.4 to help recover another computer that has breathed it's last
[01:16] <gpb> yeah, I'm OK with overwriting everything on the Linux partitions, but need a way to boot with burning a CD or booting a CD and don't have a USB device that is usable
[01:27] <dondopa> Help please
[01:27] <dondopa> How do I add a path to my bash envionrment?
[01:28] <dondopa> I want to put a script in a folder called "Bin" in my home folder and run it from the command-line by typing it's name
[01:30] <dominic_> where is my spam folder in thunderbird mail
[01:31] <k1l> dondopa: the folder "bin" gets put into the $PATH when you login. just but your stuff there
[01:36] <gpb> dondopa, export PATH=$PATH:./Bin
[01:37] <gpb> dondopa, to keep between sessions, add it to ~/.bash_profile
[01:40] <davidrsmorris> Hi, I'm using a VC404 and Ubuntu thinks that's a black and white terminal, even with $TERM set to vc404.  Does anyone know how to change terminal modes?
[01:41] <dondopa> ok
[01:41] <dondopa> hold on
[01:42] <collisionsystm> export TERM=vt100
[01:42] <dondopa> gpdwhere do you put export PATH=$PATH:./Bin?
[01:42] <collisionsystm> or whatever other
[01:42] <dondopa> do you execute this at the command-line
[01:42] <dondopa> ?
[01:42] <collisionsystm> yeah
[01:44] <dondopa> gdp there is no ~/.bash_profile file in my home folder
[01:44] <dondopa> when I show hidden files
[01:44] <dondopa> I only see .profile
[01:44] <dondopa> and .bashrc
[01:45] <gpb> dondopa, .profile will work
[01:46] <iIlL10Oo> how to install emerge IN ubuntu
[01:47] <iIlL10Oo> how to one key make and install a git cpp repo from github ?
[01:48] <gpb> iIlL100o, why emerge?
[01:48] <gpb> Ubuntu has apt
[01:49] <Guest46708> hello,everyone!
[01:49] <iIlL10Oo> gpb: from git is the newest version
[01:51] <gpb> iIlL100o, use apt to ensure you have the compile tools you need, kernel and libc headers and any other dependencies you need
[01:51] <gpb> including git
[01:52] <gpb> then run git to d/l the repository
[01:52] <gpb> and from the directory you d/l to..,, run make install
[01:52] <dondopa> What should I put in .profile?
[01:53] <iIlL10Oo> gpb: I know how to make and install by my hand , but not one-key , just like emerge's one-key , so I need some tools like emerge
[02:03] <adamu> Hello Everyone
[02:03] <n00bee5> Hi
[02:03] <MarGul> Whats a good editor to edit you php files directly on your ubuntu server? Dont want to use vi because of the insert mode and so on. Would like one with php color highlight
[02:04] <n00bee5> I reinstalled ubuntu 12.10  but kept my encrypted users backedup, how do I add it to my fresh install?
[02:04] <iIlL10Oo> MarGul: try emacs ?
[02:07] <adamu> MarGul, Vim is good once you get used to it
[02:07] <n00bee5> anyone know how to reinstall an encrypted home directory to a fresh install of ubuntu?
[02:08] <n00bee5> I backed it up now need to just restore
[02:09] <zapduino> why do I hear my computer processing on my sound card?
[02:09] <MarGul> adamu: is vim using the same sort of command mode and insert mode as vi?
[02:10] <MarGul> find it slowing me down to much
[02:10] <adamu> MarGul, Yeah
[02:10] <somsip> MarGul: vi/vim is very much a standard and it's worth getting used to. If you want an alternative simple editor, try nano.
[02:11] <adamu> MarGul, Its much faster once you get used to it
[02:13] <lecoeus> vim is good but emacs is better
[02:14] <adamu> lecoeus, Well..I suppose everyone is entitled to their own opinion :/
[02:14] <MarGul> going to see how emacs looks like. Find that vi/vim is messing up the code indenting I have done. But could easaly be fixed when I code php in vi/vim I guess
[02:15] <MarGul> There is ofcourse better ones that I can use on my laptop but then I have to transfer the files all the time to see if its working ;/
[02:19] <somsip> MarGul: just dont edit on the live server. Get a proper deployment system working, even if its to work locally on files and scp/ftp them onto the server
[02:23] <n00bee5> anyone know how to restore a previously encrypted home directory?
[02:23] <MarGul> somsip: Yeah I have actually been thinking about doint that instead.  Little bit new to linux still haha
[02:30] <dvanstone> hang ober
[02:31] <dvanstone> ober baf
[02:33] <twstedwire> hi
[02:34] <dvanstone> halo
[02:34] <adamu> Hi :)
[02:34] <twstedwire> im new
[02:35] <dvanstone> im old
[02:35] <twstedwire> hahaha
[02:35] <profligacy> Can anyone here help me write a paper on thi importance of education?
[02:35] <dvanstone> but new ere
[02:35] <somsip> !ot | profligacy
[02:36] <adamu> twstedwire, Well, Welcome to Ubuntu
[02:36] <dvanstone> path or whereis ?
[02:36] <twstedwire> yeahh
[02:40] <dvanstone> is there an apt- [?] equivalent for
[02:43] <dvanstone> whereis %
[02:45] <Phoenixz> I am trying to install kubutu FROM a USB stick TO another USB stick, but the installer crashes halfway.. Is this a known problem, or something I could avoid somehow?
[02:53] <MarGul> I know this might not be the channel for it but dont get any answers elsewhere. I have netbeans installed on my laptop for my java dev. I want to include the PHP plugin. But when I search for available plugins I cant find PHP. Anyone have somewhere that I can download the plugin manually and install it?
[02:55] <somsip> MarGul: how did you install netbeans?
[02:55] <MarGul> with only the Java tools from netbeans.org
[02:56] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone use bcache? whats the fstab entry look like for the bcache device node?
[02:57] <somsip> MarGul: so install the correct version...
[02:58] <MarGul> well I should be able to just install the PHP plugin to the version I have right now. So I dont have to delete the netbeans I have atm
[02:58] <somsip> MarGul: or look harder http://superuser.com/questions/204498/how-to-add-php-in-netbeans-on-ubuntu
[03:00] <genial> Hello. Trying to install a Ethernet driver in Ubuntu Server 12.04. Added the cdrom as a apt-repo, followed by a aptitude update. However when doing "aptitude install build-essential", it complains about "File not found" from the cdrom. Anyone have any tips?
[03:00] <MarGul> like I said, tried that but in my Available plugins PHP does not show
[03:01] <MarGul> found out how to manually dl and install it
[03:01] <sthruskov> Greetings. I've got a problem with Clementine music player. I installed kde and the media buttons doesn't works, with 'juk' thythmbox rather..
[03:01] <sthruskov> *rhythmbox..
[03:02] <zzxc> Hey does anyone have any experience with setting up AFP?
[03:02] <ubuntuaddicted> so no once has tried bcache yet? i have a small SSD, only 32GB and I want to just use it for caching versus installing it right onto it.
[03:03] <compdoc> ubuntuaddicted, I dont use bcache, but using a small ssd as cache is awesome
[03:04] <ubuntuaddicted> compdoc, if not bcache then what? dmcache, flashcache or what?
[03:04] <sthruskov> can anybody give me a tip?
[03:04] <compdoc> its Intel's cache. you need one of their motherboards that supports it
[03:07] <john____> Hi
[03:08] <wad> Hi guys. I'm trying to figure out how to get my shiny new laptop to boot to Ubuntu where the display isn't just blank.
[03:08] <wad> I documented stuff here: http://pastebin.com/5W9GUVMh
[03:08] <wad> Anyone who can help, please take a look, and give me some ideas!
[03:09] <wad> It says, "Try unloading the conflicting kernel module (and/or reconfigure your kernel without the conflicting driver(s)), then try loading the NVIDIA kernel module again."
[03:09] <wad> But that's a little bit out of my depth. I need some hand-holding, I think.
[03:10] <john____> Hmm
[03:10] <wad> Here's the full dmesg output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6527861/
[03:12] <wad> I think nouveau is colliding with the nvidia driver I installed.
[03:12] <wad> Maybe I should uninstall that, whatever it is?
[03:13] <za> can anyone tell me how to add cpu frequency scaling indocator please
[03:13] <za> indicator
[03:14] <WiGust> Hello. Can anybody help me? /etc/environment doesn't work for users when system startup with Slim. But if it startup with startx it's work. Why?
[03:15] <za> need help on cpu frequency scaling indicator please
[03:16] <ubuntuaddicted> doesnt appear bcache is available for precise. i only see it for raring and saucy
[03:24] <ubuntuaddicted> can someone point me towards a newb compiling instructions? first step of building flashcache is that i need the entire source tree. i don't know where i get that or how. lol
[03:30] <somsip> ubuntuaddicted: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware https://github.com/facebook/flashcache/ http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Basics-Getting-a-Git-Repository
[03:30] <ubuntuaddicted> somsip, i just found it, thanks
[03:32] <wad> Hey folks. Anyone here have good luck troubleshooting nvidia video driver issues? My fresh new Ubuntu install results in a blank screen. -_-
[03:45] <wad> Any of you guys had success configuring nvidia drivers? My new ubuntu install just goes to a blank screen. I've made some progress, but now I'm stuck.
[03:46] <wad> I see an error in the lightdm logs, too.
[03:46] <wad> I can see the NVidia card, and the intel card, in the lspci output.
[03:46] <wad> I installed the NVidia drivers.
[04:02] <wad> Do nvidia graphics cards even work under Ubuntu? I'm starting to have my doubts!
[04:05] <v0latil3> test
[04:06] <v0latil3> does anyone have experience with dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu? i have them both installed on a uefi system. i have installed them many times before, but never on uefi. to boot into ubuntu i have to press f11 and select ubuntu from the bios boot menu, then it goes to grub.
[04:06] <v0latil3> is it normal for it to work that way
[04:06] <v0latil3> i thought i had a bios-boot partition but now i do not see it
[04:07] <MissValeska_> Hiya all! I have a question! I am going to buy two graphics cards soon, I am wondering if Ubuntu will be able to support them, And how I will configure them, And install the drivers for them? I know how to do it with one graphics card, I am just wondering if it is any different, Or if I will need multiple drivers.
[04:07] <v0latil3> oh nevermind about the bios boot partition that is for bios systems, and i never had one
[04:07] <DrManhattan> As soon as you create an empty directory, how many links will exist to that directory in the file system?
[04:08] <v0latil3> MissValeska_, what cards?
[04:08] <MissValeska_> Radeon cards, A Radeon HD 7770, And, Probably, A Radeon HD 7850
[04:08] <v0latil3> if you are doing an SLI/CrossFire type setup, there should jsut be one driver
[04:08] <v0latil3> are they going into the same pc
[04:08] <MissValeska_> I don't know if I will be doing that, Or if I even can. I will just put them into my second PCIe slot
[04:09] <MissValeska_> yes?
[04:09] <v0latil3> you should check if you can do CrossFire with your motherboard, otherwise there is no point
[04:09] <v0latil3> unless you have 2 monitors, then it may be able to work that way, im not sure
[04:10] <v0latil3> DrManhattan, what do you mean?
[04:11] <DrManhattan> v0latil3, it's all good. The answer is two. The parent and "."
[04:12] <v0latil3> oh
[04:13] <v0latil3> MissValeska_, what do you plan to do with that setup?
[04:13] <Mississauga> MissValeska_: just bought a motherboard, its manual shows how to install 2 cards though I only use one, see usermanual for Asrock 970 extreme3
[04:13] <remu> I have 2 3TB drives in my system as sdc and sdd. Each has two paritions which are in RAID1 together. sdc1 and sdd1 are combined together as md0, and sdc2 and sdd2 are combined together as md1.
[04:14] <remu> I would like to retain md0, but I would like to get rid of md1 so that I can use sdc2 and sdd2 as two separate partitions.
[04:14] <remu> What is the best way to acheive this without losing the data currently on md1?
[04:15] <v0latil3> how big is md1?
[04:15] <remu> Obviously this is a software RAID.
[04:15] <v0latil3> yes
[04:15] <remu> md1 is 2.5 TB.
[04:16] <v0latil3> so you couldnt copy the files off of it onto md0. i dont have any experience with software RAID
[04:17] <remu> I was thinking of removing sdc2 from md1, so that md1 would be degraded, then copy the files from md1 to sdc2 after it is formatted, then mount sdc2 to where md1 was located, then get rid of md1 alltogether.
[04:17] <v0latil3> maybe if you just delete md1, would sdc2 and sdd2 not just have the same contents?
[04:17] <remu> I'm just not sure what would be the best tools to use, and what arguments need to be passed to them.
[04:17] <v0latil3> yeah what you said makes sense
[04:18] <v0latil3> i cant guarantee it will work though :D
[04:18] <remu> I'm thinking that if I just delete md1 it would get rid of the data, since md1 contains the filesystem, while sdc2 and sdd2 are currently RAID partitions.
[04:19] <v0latil3> no i dont mean delete it. i just meant delete the raid
[04:19] <v0latil3> if thats possible
[04:20] <v0latil3> but i dont know how it works. your idea of removing sdc2 makes the most sense to me
[04:21] <shanahan> how long should jockey-gtk "Additional Drivers" take to install something like a wireless driver?
[04:22] <sfj> Got my laptop running, 9-11 hours estimated for light usage
[04:22] <sfj> not bad at all
[04:23] <v0latil3> lol i get like 3
[04:23] <sfj> I started off at 3
[04:23] <sfj> haha
[04:23] <sfj> I also use a pretty dark screen
[04:23] <v0latil3> what did you do?
[04:23] <sfj> that most people can't read
[04:23] <v0latil3> To increase it so much?
[04:23] <sfj> Bumblebee was huge
[04:24] <v0latil3> Oh. yeah my 3 hours is with bumblebee... :(
[04:24] <shanahan> does it take a while for anyone else?
[04:24] <sfj> shit haha
[04:24] <v0latil3> shanahan, how long has it taken you so far?
[04:25] <sfj> using tlp?
[04:25] <spam> hello
[04:25] <spam> i am having a trouble since i just installed lubuntu
[04:25] <shanahan> V01Px3, about an hour, sometimes too long i have to force quit b/c i have to turn my laptop off, tonight i'm just going to let it run
[04:25] <v0latil3> thats probably not right
[04:25] <MissValeska_> ummm
[04:26] <v0latil3> spam what is your problem
[04:26] <MissValeska_> I have a gigabyte-GA-970A-D3
[04:26] <Guest61838> i did sudo apt-get install lubuntu, restarted computer, then lubuntu opened, but i lost access to the dock and the system search button ... help please
[04:26] <shanahan> v0latil3, damn, there are soo many problems with my broadcom driver version, there're TOO many pages on google to say what to do, idk which one will work..
[04:27] <Guest61838> i did that because ubuntu was running slowly
[04:27] <v0latil3> are you using unity?
[04:27] <Guest61838> i guess so, or at least i think i was on ubuntu
[04:27] <Guest61838> it's standard right? i had 13.04 and never changed it
[04:27] <v0latil3> yeah
[04:27] <sfj> I wanted to destroy unity for the first 30 minutes
[04:27] <Guest61838> yeah so i did sudo apt-get install lubuntu and it pretty much messed everything up
[04:28] <Guest61838> maybe thats the point of lubuntu?? that's its super minimalist, but not being able to open apps from the search bar makes it way too difficult
[04:28] <articsun> Guest61838:  :P
[04:28] <shanahan> Guest61838, log out, click the circle above your username?   did you just install the Desktop Environment?
[04:28] <articsun> Guest61838:  no no you install it via the Dvd or GUi
[04:29] <v0latil3> Guest61838, are you using lxde now?
[04:29] <Guest61838> shanahan, ok ...... and i have no idea what i insatlled
[04:29] <morenoh159> hello all
[04:29] <sfj> hello
[04:29] <morenoh159> I'm setting up a two gpu box
[04:29] <sfj> what do you guys like for an ubuntu equivalent of mirc?
[04:29] <Guest61838> v0latil3 no it was just ubuntu => lubuntu
[04:29] <articsun> ncie MonsieurApple
[04:29] <morenoh159> I managed to install everything fine with one installed
[04:29] <shanahan> Guest61838, does your boot screen say "ubuntu"  or "lubutu" ?  you may just be using gnome and lxde...
[04:29] <articsun> sfj:  Xchat
[04:29] <sfj> I'm on Pidgin now, but not sure if I like it
[04:29] <v0latil3> lubuntu uses lxde does it not?
[04:29] <sfj> k I'll check it out
[04:29] <Guest61838> shanahan: I dont kjnow how to log out
[04:29] <morenoh159> then I plugged the second one in and I'm not getting video out of any ports
[04:29] <Guest61838> v0latil3, no idea
[04:30] <shanahan> Guest61838, ctrl shift backspace?
[04:30] <Guest61838> shanahan - no
[04:30] <SchrodingersScat> !info finch | sfj
[04:30] <Phoenixz> I am trying to install kubutu FROM a USB stick TO another USB stick, but the installer crashes halfway.. Is this a known problem, or something I could avoid somehow?
[04:30] <Guest61838> v0latil3 i would be very happy just go to back to the ubuntu i had earlier today
[04:30] <SchrodingersScat> sfj: nvm, you said mirc, try weechat-ncurses
[04:31] <morenoh159> should I remove the second one, install the ati drivers then try again?
[04:31] <v0latil3> Phoenixz, what is the partition setup on the usb stick you are installing to?
[04:31] <Guest61838> all i did was sudo apt-get install lubuntu + restart, can't be that hard to undo that can it??
[04:31] <Abhijit> hi. is there any way to check if ftp upload if finished to the server while i am accessing server from another client? ubuntu 12.04
[04:31] <SchrodingersScat> !info weechat-ncurses | sfj
[04:31] <sfj> ah okay
[04:32] <v0latil3> morenoh159, do you have the normal login screen?
[04:32] <Phoenixz> v0latil3: I just do "sdb use entire disk", the simplest option
[04:32] <v0latil3> hmm
[04:33] <morenoh159> no, but I do see the request for my hdd encryption key
[04:33] <v0latil3> i just did that with ubuntu yesterday
[04:33] <v0latil3> worked fine for me
[04:33] <morenoh159> then I get a black screen
[04:33] <v0latil3> i set up the partitions manually though
[04:33] <Phoenixz> v0latil3: Ah, maybe I can try that.. Anything specific on partition setup?
[04:34] <morenoh159> yeah just uplugged the second one, I'll try to install the drivers, hopefully the 2nd card isn't broken
[04:34] <Abhijit> Is there any way to check if sftp upload to the ubuntu 12.04 server is finished, while i am accessing server from another client?
[04:34] <v0latil3> ah darn msg doesnt open new window in this client
[04:34] <morenoh159> I get normal behaviour when I remove the second card
[04:34] <v0latil3> Phoenixz, what size usb stick?
[04:35] <Phoenixz> v0latil3: 8GB
[04:35] <v0latil3> ok
[04:35] <v0latil3> do you care if it is GPT or MBR?
[04:35] <v0latil3> it probably wouldnt matter to you
[04:36] <v0latil3> because mbr would only help with windows, which cant read linux fs anyway
[04:36] <v0latil3> Phoenixz, do you want the whole drive to kubuntu? you could even have a 1GB partition to use in windows if you  want. there is a lot you can do
[04:38] <Phoenixz> v0latil3: Nah, this USB is basically a normal platter HD replacement for a very small light server that wont do anything with disk, and I need to make like 20 of em, so I dont want to spend money on more expensive HD drives.. Basically, about 2 GB would suffice
[04:38] <Phoenixz> I'd need to make a /boot of about 200MB then, and just the / partition 2GB and that would do, not?
[04:38] <v0latil3> Okay
[04:38] <v0latil3> that would work. i did a separate home partition for mine
[04:39] <v0latil3> i used btrfs, and enabled compression on mine for any extra stuff to squeeze in too
[04:39] <Guest61838> can anyone take a look? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20416050/undo-lubuntu-install
[04:40] <v0latil3> sudo apt-get remove lubuntu?
[04:40] <GusBricker> hello, anyone here good with backups?
[04:40] <v0latil3> Guest61838, maybe try that
[04:40] <GusBricker> i have a hopefully quick question
[04:40] <v0latil3> Please ask.
[04:40] <Abhijit> Guest61838, that belongs to askubuntu
[04:41] <GusBricker> im trying to mirror a folder on an ubuntu server which has live files on it (ie they change regularly)
[04:42] <Phoenixz> v0latil3: btrfs? kinky! :) Is that something that realistically can be used on something production?
[04:42] <v0latil3> I think it is stable now.
[04:42] <v0latil3> ext4 should work okay if you are not confident about using btrfs though.
[04:43] <v0latil3> i was going to move my desktop from ext4 to it too.
[04:43] <v0latil3> this says no: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/FAQ#Is_btrfs_stable.3F
[04:44] <v0latil3> Short answer: No, it's still considered experimental
[04:44] <v0latil3> Pragmatic answer: (2012-12-19) Many of the developers and testers run btrfs as their primary filesystem for day-to-day usage, or with various forms of "real" data. With reliable hardware and up-to-date kernels, we see very few unrecoverable problems showing up. As always, keep backups, test them, and be prepared to use them.
[04:45] <Abhijit> GusBricker, why not do the simple tar to backup updates files every X minutes?
[04:45] <stevildead> need help installing skryim thru wine, have already downloaded the game, folders contains; setup.exe, setup-1.bin (as well as 2 and 3). also using ubuntu 8.04
[04:45] <v0latil3> Phoenixz, I think it depends what you are using it for.
[04:45] <GusBricker> Abhijit: do you mean just take a tar of the directory periodically?
[04:47] <Abhijit> GusBricker, thats the simplest one. if you want more features than have a look at rsync or others.
[04:47] <GusBricker> Abhijit: the problem with an approach like that is when the files change, the tar/rsync process usually fails
[04:47] <Phoenixz> pl
[04:47] <Phoenixz> ok
[04:49] <Abhijit> GusBricker, by change, do you mean the content of the files change or do you mean the whole files and their names and their location gets changed?
[04:49] <stevildead> need help with wine, anyone?
[04:49] <Abhijit> stevildead, @winehq
[04:49] <Abhijit> stevildead, #winehq
[04:49] <Abhijit> Is there any way to check if sftp upload to the ubuntu 12.04 server is finished, while i am accessing server from another client?
[04:49] <GusBricker> Abhijit: both, the contents may change, the file may get deleted or new files may get added
[04:50] <stevildead> Abhijit: i tried, rooms empty
[04:50] <Guest61053> What is the difference between android and Linux or how they are related ?
[04:50] <Abhijit> GusBricker, do you want to preserve the old files?
[04:51] <GusBricker> Abhijit: nope, just want a stable backup of the directory at a given point in time
[04:51] <stevildead> Abhijit: any other suggestions? or would u know how to install a game with wine. ive done it before but im not sure whats wrong this time
[04:51] <Abhijit> Guest61053, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_system%29
[04:52] <Abhijit> stevildead, wine file.exe in terminal
[04:52] <Abhijit> GusBricker, better try tar.
[04:53] <Abhijit> GusBricker, may be this will be helpful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[04:53] <grache28> anyone had problems with the keyboard not being detected in ubuntu 13.10 server install?? It works on the first screen which asks for my language and whether i want to install, boot from hd, repair, check disk. But once I get in the install menu my kb no longer responds. the computer doesn't have any ps2, and I've tried every single usb port, it won't recognize the keyboard
[04:53] <Ben64> !appdb | stevildead
[04:54] <Ben64> stevildead: wait, ubuntu 8.04? you need to upgrade.
[04:54] <GusBricker> Abhijit: thanks for help, but tar wont do it
[04:54] <grache28> in lieu of making that work, is there any ubuntu images that are under 700megs that have the gui installer? can't boot from usb and only have cds to burn
[04:54] <Abhijit> stevildead, also http://www.playdeb.net/welcome/
[04:54] <GusBricker> Abhijit: will keep hunting around
[04:55] <Abhijit> GusBricker, tar just read the file and store it in destination. why would it fail if file change. it has nothing to do with file content etc?
[04:55] <Ben64> grache28: there are a few under 700MB, like the 12.04 disc
[04:56] <stevildead> Abhijit: yes i kno this trust me, just got the laptop (no cd drive) so im having an issue updating
[04:56] <Beldar> grache28, There are the net installs too.
[04:56] <stevildead> Abhijit: just really wanted to play skyrim
[04:57] <grache28> cool, where can i get those, having trouble because the ubuntu page is hyper user friendly, won't let me see a list of images and their sizes
[04:57] <Abhijit> stevildead, you are having issue updating what? wine or ubuntu?
[04:58] <stevildead> Abhijit: i put that in the terminal and got runtime error -1.0.
[04:58] <grache28> lts is 708, aren't cd-rs 700mb?
[04:58] <Abhijit> stevildead, put what?
[04:58] <grache28> is that a cruel joke?
[04:58] <GusBricker> Abhijit: if you start tarring, tar adds file X to the archive, then adds say another 100 files, file X is then deleted off the disk for some reason, tar then adds more files, and finished.
[04:58] <grache28> Beldar: where are the net installs?
[04:58] <stevildead> Abhijit: wine file.exe
[04:59] <grache28> Beldar: found it thanks
[04:59] <GusBricker> Abhijit: that backup is technically not a correct snapshot of that folder, as it has file X sitting there doing nothing
[04:59] <Beldar> grache28, cool
[04:59] <stevildead> Abhijit: and issues updating ubuntu, well and wine too really
[04:59] <Abhijit> GusBricker, better ask on serverfault.
[05:00] <GusBricker> Abhijit: proper backups usually hook into the OS some how and stage file changes so that a stable consistent snap shot can be created
[05:00] <stevildead> Abhijit: i was going to try and install version 12 from usb install
[05:00] <CryptoKing> anyone every had many issues with installing onto USB
[05:00]  * grache28 worries that if the installer for server didn't detect kb, that the netinstall is probably running the same installer and won't either :(
[05:01] <CryptoKing> i can get it running, but sometimes dosent see usb
[05:01] <Beldar> CryptoKing, State the issues for help, and no.
[05:01] <CryptoKing> and just boots straight into bios
[05:03] <CryptoKing> i just went and bought a hd anyway i was loosing my shit to much
[05:03] <Beldar> !language | CryptoKing
[05:03] <Abhijit> stevildead, can you intsall any other package?
[05:03] <shanahan> when i use jockey-gtk to install a wireless driver, it disconnects the wifi and shows the 'installing drivers' bar.  So i plugged in an ethernet cable that's how i'm on now
[05:04] <shanahan> when using jockey-gtk to install wireless drivers do you always need a hard connection?
[05:04] <v0latil3> if wifi was connected in the first place, why are you trying to install a different driver?
[05:04] <Abhijit> GusBricker, did you looked here http://serverfault.com/questions/373452/simple-linux-live-system-backup-to-files i think its not the backup method, but the os configuration which is causing the issue.
[05:05] <shanahan> v0latil3, boot screen sometimes shows error messages involving "b43 wl..."  it has to do with my broadcom wireless card, sometimes it freezes.
[05:05] <shanahan> v0latil3, so i thought this might fix it
[05:06] <v0latil3> shanahan, what is the error message?
[05:07] <shanahan> v0latil3, " [    9.625943] Support for cores revisions 0x17 and 0x18 disabled by module param allhwsupport=0. Try b43.allhwsupport=1"
[05:07] <Abhijit> Is there any way to check if sftp upload to the ubuntu 12.04 server is finished, while i am accessing server from another client?
[05:07] <stevildead> Abhijit: yes
[05:07] <fishcooker> im on ubuntu server installation.. there is an option about the kernel thing, which one should i choose?
[05:08] <v0latil3> the kernel thing?
[05:08] <v0latil3> thats a little ambiguous. maybe someone else knows what you mean i guess
[05:09] <Abhijit> stevildead, did you tried uninstall wine, update repo and install wine again?
[05:09] <fishcooker> im on ubuntu server installation.. there is options about to choose the kernel, which one should i choose v0latil3?
[05:09] <v0latil3> what are the options?
[05:09] <fishcooker> linux image generic
[05:09] <fishcooker> linux image generic pae
[05:09] <v0latil3> how much ram do you have?
[05:10] <fishcooker> linux image extra
[05:10] <shanahan> v0latil3, googled it and there are so many different, "solutions" ... :(
[05:10] <fishcooker> 2Gigs
[05:10] <v0latil3> PAE is for 4 GB plus i think
[05:10] <v0latil3> im not sure what extra means.
[05:10] <v0latil3> the 1st option should work.
[05:10] <wheatthin> it means petabytes I think :P
[05:11] <v0latil3> extra? lol
[05:11] <wheatthin> 4gb plus :)
[05:11] <SonikkuAmerica> !PAE
[05:11] <josuer08> hello
[05:12] <v0latil3> fishcooker, go with linux image generic
[05:12] <v0latil3> if you are missing drivers/modules after you install, just install the extras too
[05:12] <SonikkuAmerica> PAE == Physical Address Extension. Your computer must support PAE to operate on more recent versions of the Linux kernel. You can check using [ car /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags ]
[05:12] <SonikkuAmerica> PAE == Physical Address Extension. Your computer must support PAE to operate on more recent versions of the Linux kernel. You can check using *[ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags ]
[05:13] <SonikkuAmerica> (cat, not "car")
[05:14] <v0latil3> The program 'car' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[05:14] <v0latil3> sudo apt-get install ucommon-utils
[05:14] <v0latil3> hlep plzz
[05:14] <Beldar> meow
[05:14] <GusBricker> Abhijit: rsnapshot looks promising, reading up on it now. thanks!
[05:14] <v0latil3> purr
[05:14] <tzu_chi> How did mark twain and ralph waldo emerson write such good stories without the computer?
[05:15] <v0latil3> idk probably cheat codes
[05:15] <Abhijit> ok
[05:15] <stevildead> Abhijit: i will
[05:16] <Abhijit> Is there any way to check if sftp upload to the ubuntu 12.04 server is finished, while i am accessing server from another client?
[05:16] <tzu_chi> I think Ubuntu is a great project. There are good intentions.
[05:16] <v0latil3> tzu_chi, if you want to try i think the combo is jump duck, do a 180, look up then down, and go punch the nearest NPC by you
[05:18] <stevildead> Abhijit: wait how do u update the repo?
[05:19] <Ben64> stevildead: 8.04 is no longer supported here, you need to upgrade or install a supported release
[05:22] <stevildead> Ben64: i have no cd drive, is there a way (other than usb) i can install the newer version
[05:22] <v0latil3> apt-get dist upgrade i think
[05:22] <v0latil3> unless thats so old it doesnt work
[05:24] <xangua> !eol | stevildead
[05:29] <tsnyph> hello, i need some help please. I went to an adult website and now i am locked on a page and cant close firefox. everytime i re load it, it goes back to the adult webpage
[05:29] <Beldar> tsnyph, open a terminal and run killall firefox
[05:29] <eg0x> or "xkill" and click on the window you want to close
[05:29] <Beldar> tsnyph, Ah clear the cookies and history
[05:29] <tsnyph> firefox: no process found
[05:29] <eg0x> without " of course
[05:30] <tsnyph> how to clear it manually? it wont let me do it in firefox
[05:31] <tsnyph> Beldar,  which ones do i delete in the firefox folder?
[05:31] <xangua> tsnyph: you can just delete your .mozilla directory if you don't have any sensitive information
[05:31] <tsnyph> just delete the whole folder?
[05:32] <Beldar> yeah the config should save the bookmarks
[05:33] <fishcooker> thanks v0latil3 i follow your direction
[05:35] <Beldar> tsnyph, I have FF remove all history and cookies...etc with click&clean an addon there are other cleaners in genewral though.
[05:35] <tsnyph> what would make firefox lock up like that in the first place? a popup was coming up saying leave page and it wouldnt leave the page and i couldnt close any tabs ect
[05:37] <Beldar> tsnyph, WOT is a pretty good website checker you will see a green icon on safe sites.
[05:38] <Abhijit> !update | stevildead
[05:38] <Abhijit> stevildead, you are using 8.04?
[05:43] <MajSlayer7777> hello, got a small problem, install the LAMP on unbuntu 13.10, but it keeps displaying warning messages for this one PHP program I use. about using .date
[05:43] <MajSlayer7777> I adjusted the php.ini, restarted apache2, but the error still displays
[05:44] <bambanx> guys how i can copy all the content of a folder A , in anohter folder B is inside of folder A ?
[05:44] <MajSlayer7777> I'd try and rewrite the code, but am new to PHP and would just like the warnings turned off. sadly #PHP is +i
[05:45] <bambanx> ant help?
[05:47] <stevildead> Abhijit: yes
[05:48] <stevildead> Abhijit: i put in the terminal, sudo do-release upgrade and it said no new release found
[05:49] <b2w> how to install ubuntu in raspberrypi?
[05:53] <ctcb> I have my USB Stick formatted, with fat32 and the "boot" flag. How do I write an ISO to it in terminal without it removing the filesystem and bootflag?
[05:53] <Abhijit> !eol | stevildead
[05:53] <Ben64> ctcb: you don't
[05:54] <Abhijit> stevildead, get on some supported ubuntu version.
[05:54] <ctcb> Ben64, what do I do then? :P
[05:54] <stevildead> Abhijit: im on the ubuntu site
[05:55] <Abhijit> Is there any way to check if sftp upload to the ubuntu 12.04 server is finished, while i am accessing server from another client?
[05:55] <Ben64> ctcb: you can either use dd to directly write an iso to the drive, which kills all information on it, use something like unetbootin which probably wants an ext3 filesystem for it, or some other usb iso manager thingy
[05:55] <ctcb> Ben64, UNetbootin doesn't work with Windows ISO's as far as I can tell.
[05:55] <Ben64> ctcb: then why are you in #ubuntu? go to ##windows
[05:55] <Beldar> ctcb, what windows release?
[05:56] <ctcb> Windows 8.1
[05:56] <Beldar> ctcb, I'm on ##windows go there.
[05:56] <ctcb> Ben64, I'm using Ubuntu to write the ISO to the USB.
[05:56] <ctcb> As far as I can tell, this is a problem on Ubuntu's end.
[05:57] <Beldar> ctcb, Make it a ntfs, with bootflag then right click iso and use the archive manager to exstract it to the usb.
[05:58] <Ben64> alternatively, use ##windows for windows support
[05:58] <ctcb> Beldar, If I am correct, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 only support FAT32.
[05:58] <Beldar> ctcb, that is my once and only answer, and it works.
[05:59] <Beldar> on this channel anyway.
[06:00] <Abhijit> Is there any way to check if sftp upload to the ubuntu 12.04 server is finished, while i am accessing server from another client?
[06:00] <ctcb> Beldar, I'm on the other channel. ;)
[06:00] <b2w>  how to install ubuntu in raspberrypi?
[06:01] <yash069> Abhijit: yes, if u know the file size .
[06:01] <Ben64> b2w: you should ask in #raspberrypi , but i'm fairly sure it is impossible
[06:03] <Abhijit> yash069, by using some program. maybe visually.
[06:04] <yash069> Abhijit: grep sshd:session /var/log/auth.log | tail -1 | awk '{print $8}'
[06:04] <yash069> + will return "opened" or "closed" or nothing if no sessions ever used.
[06:05] <Abhijit> yash069, closed
[06:06] <yash069> closed means no transfer ...
[06:06] <yash069> open mean ongoing trasfer
[06:06] <Abhijit> yash069, does that mean uploading finished?
[06:07] <c_smith_> Abhijit, it could ALSO mean the transfer failed due to some error, i.e, network timeout
[06:07] <Abhijit> ok. that is what i was looking for.
[06:07] <Abhijit> so there in so sure way of doing this? we need to all this manually.
[06:08] <c_smith_> a good way to check if the file uploaded correctly is to md5sum it on both machines and compare the server's md5sum to the local file.
[06:08] <Abhijit> yeah.
[06:09] <c_smith_> if they match, then that's a good indicator it finished successfully
[06:09] <Abhijit> right.
[06:10] <dhaval2712> popey:
[06:10] <dhaval2712> popey: You here man?
[06:11] <kevin__> "Sir...this place is dead, whatever happened here I think we missed it..."
[06:11] <meltingwax> is there *any* way (even through virtualbox, wine, etc) to put songs on my iphone 4s / 7.0.3?
[06:12] <Abhijit> meltingwax, #mac
[06:13] <Konata> I am trying to download Ubuntu Server 12 LTS, and have two problems
[06:13] <Konata> (64 bit)
[06:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: Fire away.
[06:13] <Konata> First problem... Every time I pass http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=server&bits=64&release=lts to wget, it keeps trying to download 32-bit
[06:13] <Konata> secondly
[06:13] <Konata> It keeps downloading 13.10
[06:13] <SonikkuAmerica> kevin__: I doubt we're dead.
[06:13] <Konata> I want 12.04.3
[06:14] <kevin__> lol
[06:14] <Konata> Actually you know what
[06:14] <Konata> it's wget being a douche
[06:14] <Konata> I pass that URL to it and it only fetches "http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=server"
[06:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: Oh! You might have found the wrong place on the Web site. Go here, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server , and click "Get Ubuntu 12.04 LTS"
[06:14] <Konata> No I'm purposely trying to download server edition
[06:15] <Konata> It works fine when I click through on a browser
[06:15] <Konata> but wget doesn't work
[06:15] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: Oh! Here: [ wget http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04.3-server-amd64.iso ]
[06:16] <Konata> hue
[06:16] <Konata> one moment
[06:16] <vs73nx> meltingwax: to  my knowledge no way to use itunes with ubuntu through wine... you could try virtualbox...
[06:16] <yash069> meltingwax: no, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347
[06:16] <Konata> SonikkuAmerica, worked like a charm
[06:17] <Konata> thank you kindly
[06:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: :)
[06:17] <Konata> Now that I've wasted like
[06:17] <meltingwax> i'm trying virtualbox, but it's not picking up my usb device
[06:17] <Konata> 500MB of my precious 80GB monthly cap
[06:17] <Konata> (Because screw canadian ISPs, that's why)
[06:17] <meltingwax> virtualbox itself, not the guest os
[06:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: For future reference: All the Ubuntu proper (Unity) and Ubuntu Server images are on http://releases.ubuntu.com , and the other flavors are on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com
[06:17] <Konata> SonikkuAmerica, ah
[06:17] <Konata> I was just navigating the website ubuntu.co
[06:18] <Konata> *.com
[06:18] <Konata> So thanks for the tip
[06:18] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: The links there are pointers to that server tree.
[06:19] <SonikkuAmerica> meltingwax: [ sudo usermod -aG vboxusers meltingwax ] (replace "meltingwax" with your user name), reboot, and then install the Guest Additions if you haven't already.
[06:19] <SonikkuAmerica> meltingwax: (reboot == reboot the host maching)
[06:19] <SonikkuAmerica> (*machine)
[06:19] <grahamsavage> is there anyway of telling what software is connected to a particular socket?
[06:19] <grahamsavage> e.g unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     51496645 /var/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5432
[06:20] <Konata> idk about sockets... but netstat -pantu tells me what programs are using a specific port, I thought
[06:21] <grahamsavage> Konata: awesom i just trial and errored it to netstat - pan
[06:21] <grahamsavage> t or u must be restrict to tcp /udp
[06:22] <Konata> How do I summon a channel op
[06:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: Um, you don't wanna do that unless there's an emergency in the channel. (#ubuntu channel rules)
[06:23] <Beldar> Konata, You can go to #freenode or #ubuntu-ops
[06:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: I could tell you who's online though
[06:23] <Konata> Well, all I'm trying to do is basically report the unsolicited message
[06:23] <Konata> Involving, what seem to be uh
[06:23] <Konata> spanish naked ladies
[06:23] <Konata> idk
[06:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: If unsolicited PM, then #freenode
[06:24] <Konata> right-o then
[06:25] <meltingwax> SonikkuAmerica: does not work. also, when i plug in my phone it says "Trust this computer?" and when I click "Trust", it vibrates and then shows the prompt again
[06:27] <Konata> Oh gosh darnit
[06:27] <Konata> wget corrupted my file
[06:27] <Konata> thanks, wget
[06:27] <Beldar> Konata, I have pm's off just for that reason, if your registered at the least the pm'er has to be registered.
[06:27] <Konata> Just wasted a GB of bandwidth downloading ubuntu
[06:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: You can try using a BitTorrent client or zsync as well.
[06:28] <Konata> my ISP throttles bittorrent
[06:28] <Konata> It'd take me like
[06:28] <Konata> hours
[06:28] <v0latil3> wow that sucks
[06:28] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: Ouch. zsync might work, but that'll take time too
[06:28] <v0latil3> hmm i just got a pm from a guy too
[06:28] <v0latil3> to some spanish site
[06:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: Also, zsync is good for changing in between Ubuntu flavors without downloading the whole image file over again, or updating daily builds of images.
[06:29] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3: Tell #freenode ?
[06:29] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3: A few people here did already; enough complaints and he might get a k-line
[06:30] <Konata> By chance
[06:30] <Konata> does anyone have the md5 for the image I just downloaded
[06:30] <Konata> the ubuntu server iso 64-bit 12.04.2
[06:30] <v0latil3> Konata, the md5 is in the iso
[06:30] <v0latil3> just open it
[06:30] <Konata> o
[06:30] <Guest43014> I'm having some instablility issues with Ubuntu 13.10
[06:31] <v0latil3> SonikkuAmerica, what should i tell #freenode?
[06:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: Just open it and check it against http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS/
[06:31] <Konata> v0latil3, (Konata) "(pimpoint) show gratis (solo hooy) --> (url redacted)"
[06:31] <Beldar> Guest43014, tell the channel your problems for help. ;)
[06:31] <v0latil3> ok
[06:31] <Konata> SonikkuAmerica, nice 404
[06:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: errr.. what?
[06:33] <Guest43014> Just begun to happen...I'm watching a movie using VLC and thats about it really other than some Nautilus usage
[06:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest43014: Can we have some !details ?
[06:33] <Konata> Not Found
[06:33] <Konata> The requested URL /precise/MD5SUMS/ was not found on this server.
[06:33] <Konata> p. much that
[06:33] <Guest43014> about 20 mins into the session...complete freeze
[06:33] <yash069> Konata: late reply though
[06:33] <Guest43014> What details do u need from me?
[06:33] <yash069> you need to quote the url
[06:33] <yash069> wget "http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=server&bits=64&release=lts"
[06:33] <Konata> Oh
[06:34] <SonikkuAmerica> yash069: Does that URL work with wget? (i.e. does it DL the ISO correctly?)
[06:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest43014: Particularly what happens with your Ubuntu install that makes it "unstable"?
[06:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest43014: Also, 32-bit (i386) or 64-bit (amd64)?
[06:35] <yash069> SonikkuAmerica: http://pbrd.co/1khISgs
[06:35] <yash069> yes
[06:35] <Guest43014> It has happened twice now today.  But yesterday everything was fine, no instability.  64-bit install
[06:36] <SonikkuAmerica> yash069: Ah, that link points at the closest server to DL
[06:36] <yash069> hmm
[06:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest43014: But *what* exactly? (Error message(s)? Crash dialog(s)? &c.?)
[06:37] <Guest43014> No error messages or anything just complete freeze.  Have to resort to cold booted (or hard booting i.e holding down the power button)
[06:38] <Beldar> !reisub | Guest43014
[06:39] <Guest43014> I will check that out thanks
[06:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Beldar: Sometimes SysRq commands are disabled by default because of their powerful ramifications. Just a pro forma.
[06:40] <Guest43014> Is there an application I can use to check Filesystem health?
[06:40] <Guest43014> like a Defragger etc...
[06:40] <v0latil3> SonikkuAmerica, i want to try that. what if i dont have a sysrq key?
[06:41] <v0latil3> oh printscreen
[06:41] <zeroneg> anyone having issues getting teamviewer to start once installed?
[06:41] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3: Usually it's PrtScrn, mine is Fn+Home
[06:41] <v0latil3> aaaaandd i took a screenshot, no fancy linux thing
[06:41] <v0latil3> SonikkuAmerica, same with mine
[06:41] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3: Toshiba
[06:41] <v0latil3> it just make a screenshot
[06:41] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[06:41] <v0latil3> no logitech
[06:41] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3: You have to hit Alt+Fn+Home
[06:42] <v0latil3> i did.
[06:42] <v0latil3> do i release those then type the other keys?
[06:42] <SonikkuAmerica> No, hold them down
[06:42] <v0latil3> oh
[06:42] <ObrienDave> no hold them down, then type the reisub sequence about 3 to 5 seconds apart
[06:43] <v0latil3> thats awesome
[06:43] <cfhowlett> !anyone|zeroneg,
[06:44] <SonikkuAmerica> If you get "This sysrq command is disabled," first run [ echo kernel.sysrq=1 | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf ]
[06:45] <v0latil3> hmm doesnt do it
[06:45] <asda> can anybody help uninstall lubuntu
[06:45] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3: If you get "This sysrq command is disabled," first run [ echo kernel.sysrq=1 | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf ]
[06:46] <v0latil3> where would it say that message?
[06:46] <SonikkuAmerica> asda: Absolutely, type "/join #lubuntu" (without the quotes)
[06:47] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3: Probably in a tty (Ctrl+Alt+F1 also displays real-time dmesg output)
[06:47] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3: (in sysrq and other vital cases)
[06:48] <zeroneg> hey, cfhowlet, doesn't help. but thanks.
[06:49] <SonikkuAmerica> zeroneg: What he means is actually state what you need help with, not just "AAAHHHH! HELP ME! HELP ME!"
[06:49] <zeroneg> i need help finding out what others have done to get it working...i thought that was implied by the question.
[06:51] <cfhowlett> zeroneg, no details = no help.  just like at the doctor.
[06:51] <ObrienDave> nothing is implied or assumed. most humans fail mindreading class
[06:51] <v0latil3_> well im not sure what i did
[06:51] <Guest43014> "We set down there on company orders to get this thing,which destroyed my crew...and your expensive ship"
[06:52] <v0latil3_> said i pressed ctrl alt delete, then halted lol
[06:52] <ipython__3> hi. I'm using python3.   print("1\r2\r")  gets 2. What I expected is 1 2. What seems is the problem?
[06:52] <zeroneg> any issue with my question is semantics at this point. So, how bout it, guys? We gonna be nazis regarding my direct and indirect objects too, or be the help that is recommended by such a great distribution. I go to the doctor and say my leg hurts, he asks questions to get the clarification he needs to fix it. the issue is that the application is not launching...per the original question. screw this...i did help desk for years...this is not helping.
[06:57] <Gotango> #RIPNelsonMandela
[06:58] <Gotango> Ubuntu would never have been possible without you
[06:59] <v0latil3_> lol
[06:59] <v0latil3_> dammit pimpoint msging me again
[07:00] <cfhowlett> !ops|pimpoint spam on PM
[07:00] <apb1963_> So I was running update-manager, and it was in the middle of downloading a buttload of updates when my system crashed.  Now, it says "The installation or removal of a software package failed."  Not sure what to do with at this point.
[07:01] <cfhowlett> apb1963, assume that the previous operation is fragged and attempt it again.
[07:01] <apb1963_> sure..... but how?
[07:01] <apb1963_> I just get the same thing over and over.
[07:02] <SonikkuAmerica> cfhowlett: Isn't that a thing for #freenode ?
[07:02] <cfhowlett> apb1963, in terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade      is what I usually run.
[07:02] <MarGul> I have now set up ssh-key authorization, checked my .ssh/authorized_keys on my server and my key is in there. But when im loggin in from my client I still need to use my password. I though this ssh key was the authensication and that I dont need to use a password to log into my server
[07:02] <cfhowlett> SonikkuAmerica, I THINK the channel ops monitor within channel.  !ops wanna comment?
[07:04] <v0latil3_> MarGul, did your key have a passphrase?
[07:04] <apb1963_> That doesn't sound like a definitive "this will fix the problem" type of answer, but more of a "try this and see what happens" kind of answer that is fine for experiments but not so fine for someone dependent on one and only one machine.
[07:04] <v0latil3_> did you edit your sshd_config?
[07:06] <stevildead> i am downloading ubuntu 12.04 to a hard drive. can i install it from there?
[07:06] <v0latil3_> stevildead, what os do you have on the computer
[07:07] <MarGul> v0latil3_: yes my key had a passphrase and no I haven't done anything in sshd_config. followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[07:07] <v0latil3_> okay
[07:07] <ObrienDave> stevildead, best to burn the ISO to DVD or USB stick, reboot, and install from the ISO
[07:07] <v0latil3_> MarGul, if the key had a passphrase, then you will need to type that when you connect still
[07:08] <stevildead> the computer i want to put it on (currently using) has no cd drive and ubuntu 8.04 which is eol
[07:08] <v0latil3_> stevildead, do you have grub bootloader on the pc you are trying to install it on?
[07:08] <v0latil3_> oh yes you do
[07:08] <v0latil3_> you can boot an iso from grub
[07:08] <v0latil3_> what grub version do you have?
[07:09] <stevildead> v0latil3_: im not certain
[07:09] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3_: Not with GRUB Legacy you can't!!
[07:09] <v0latil3_> thats why i asked what version :D
[07:09] <stevildead> ObrienDave: i dont have a cd drive, or a usb stick large enough
[07:09] <v0latil3_> how do you tell what grub version you have?
[07:10] <stevildead> v0latil3_: i dont kno
[07:10] <v0latil3_> oh
[07:10] <MarGul> v0latil3_: So what does the whole key authensication do then? Just make my connection encrypted or something? (first time setting up a webserver and Im a bit curious :))
[07:10] <v0latil3_> stevildead, do grub-install -v
[07:10] <stevildead> v0latil3_: again its hardy heron :( outdated
[07:11] <v0latil3_> MarGul, yes.
[07:11] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3_: [ sudo apt-cache policy (grub-pc || grub-efi)]
[07:11] <v0latil3_> you should edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config to disable plain text pass login also
[07:11] <v0latil3_> so it is more secure
[07:11] <stevildead> v0latil3_: ? when i have the hard drive with the os on it plugged in orrrr
[07:12] <v0latil3_> MarGul, instead of typing a password to tell the server its you, it uses that key that you made, so it is more secure. you are never transmitting the key over the connection
[07:12] <v0latil3_> stevildead, yes
[07:12] <v0latil3_> stevildead, when you are logged into the 8.04 installation
[07:12] <stevildead> v0latil3_: ok
[07:13] <MarGul> v0latil3_: Ok and if I wouldnt have chosen a passphrase the person logging in would still have to have the corresponding RSA key on his client machine? so the password is just "extra"
[07:14] <v0latil3_> yes
[07:14] <stevildead> v0latil3_: im literally on it now
[07:14] <v0latil3_> so even if someone steals your key they have to find the pass, AND connect with the key
[07:15] <stevildead> v0latil3_: the download just finished on my other comp, and is now on the hard drive
[07:15] <MarGul> Okey perfect. Thanks a lot :)
[07:15] <v0latil3_> stevildead, open terminal, type grub-install -v
[07:15] <apb1963_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:15] <apb1963_>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdesdk-scripts_4%3a4.11.97-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04~ppa2_all.deb
[07:15] <stevildead> v0latil3_: its doesnt matter about the other items on said hard drive right, like wont hurt anything. it isnt mine personally
[07:16] <v0latil3_> MarGul, here is a good guide for secureing the server's sshd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=831372
[07:16] <v0latil3_> that command? it wont hurt anything
[07:16] <v0latil3_> it just checks the version
[07:16] <nandhu> can any one tell me the link where i can check more details about how the instllation on ubuntu really works
[07:16] <nandhu> not the instllation steps
[07:17] <nandhu> i want to know how the ubuntu detect the hardware and creates initramfs  and kernel for that
[07:17] <nandhu> because i see that the live os kernel and initramfs diffres from the installed one
[07:17] <v0latil3_> its probably open source
[07:18] <v0latil3_> the kernel and initramfs probably dont contain anything pertaining to the install program that it runs
[07:19] <stevildead> v0latil3_: grub-install (GNU GRUB 0.97)
[07:19] <v0latil3_> ohh
[07:19] <v0latil3_> SonikkuAmerica, he has to have grub2 to boot iso right?
[07:19] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3_: Correct
[07:20] <stevildead> v0latil3_: can i get grub2 on here?
[07:20] <v0latil3_> so cant he just install grub-pc?
[07:20] <v0latil3_> SonikkuAmerica
[07:20] <SonikkuAmerica> Hm?
[07:20] <v0latil3_> what i said above calling u
[07:21] <v0latil3_> install grub-pc so he can boot an iso?
[07:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Well this is 8.04 LTS we're talking, right? You'll need at least 12.04 LTS for a supported version of GRUB 2
[07:21] <v0latil3_> oh
[07:22] <v0latil3_> could we see what happens if he tries to install?
[07:22] <stevildead> SonikkuAmerica: yes
[07:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Install what where?
[07:22] <v0latil3_> SonikkuAmerica, do you have any usb drive at all? even a small one?
[07:22] <v0latil3_> SonikkuAmerica, grub2 to his 8.04 box
[07:22] <ObrienDave> or a CD for the mini ISO?
[07:23] <stevildead> SonikkuAmerica: i also cant update anything on here
[07:23] <v0latil3_> SonikkuAmerica, not your for the usb drive sorry
[07:23] <nandhu> volatil3 so you mean that during the instllation process it only creates the user accounts sets the language locale and then just extract the squashfs ?
[07:23] <v0latil3_> stevildead, do you have even a rreally small usb drive?
[07:23] <stevildead> SonikkuAmerica: ie update manager
[07:23] <SonikkuAmerica> stevildead: Right. I'd suggest a manual upgrade to at least 12.04 LTS using a Live image...
[07:23] <ObrienDave> no cd/dvd drive
[07:24] <v0latil3_> nandhu, no. i mean you should look at the source for the program that runs when you boot into the live usb desktop
[07:24] <stevildead> v0latil3_: yes like a 1g
[07:24] <v0latil3_> ok
[07:24] <v0latil3_> thats fine
[07:24] <v0latil3_> what format is it?
[07:24] <v0latil3_> fat32 probably right?
[07:24] <stevildead> v0latil3_: the usb?
[07:24] <v0latil3_> yes
[07:25] <nandhu> volatile3 you have any link whic explains more about it ? like what are the source programs that are beeing exectued
[07:25] <v0latil3_> do you have another pc with a later linux os on it?
[07:25] <stevildead> v0latil3_: ill have to look
[07:25] <SonikkuAmerica> stevildead: Get a 12.04 LTS ISO image and use the Startup Disk Creator if you can...
[07:25] <v0latil3_> nandhu, honestly i have no idea. i dont know much about that
[07:25] <nandhu> ok thanks volatile let me check
[07:25] <nandhu> if any others know pleas help me
[07:26] <ObrienDave> stevildead, 32 or 64 bit?
[07:26] <stevildead> v0latil3_: FAT16
[07:26] <v0latil3_> stevildead, okay. do you have any other computers?
[07:26] <stevildead> v0latil3_: dont matter to me i just want to play skyrim lol
[07:27] <stevildead> v0latil3_: yeah a mac book at my side
[07:28] <stevildead> SonikkuAmerica: startup disk creator? i have ubuntu 12 iso on a hard drive
[07:29] <v0latil3_> stevildead, go onto your macbook
[07:29] <stevildead> SonikkuAmerica: i have no cd drive on the laptop thats being updated
[07:29] <v0latil3_> open a terminal and try the command grub-install
[07:29] <v0latil3_> is that a program thats installed?
[07:30] <stevildead> v0latil3_: ok did that in the terminal
[07:30] <ObrienDave> stevildead, you can't install from ISO to the same HD
[07:30] <v0latil3_> what does it say
[07:30] <v0latil3_> ObrienDave, yes you can
[07:30] <v0latil3_> if we can get him grub2
[07:31] <v0latil3_> it can boot an iso file
[07:31] <stevildead> v0latil3_: install grub on ur drive then help options
[07:31] <ObrienDave> that's good to know
[07:31] <v0latil3_> he has a usb drive i am trying to think of a way to get grub on it
[07:31] <aeaglez> Cam someone help me with my partitions?
[07:31] <v0latil3_> stevildead, does that command work on the macbook?
[07:32] <stevildead> v0latil3_e: i also have a terabyte hard drive with the ubuntu 12 iso on it
[07:32] <ObrienDave> aeaglez, what do you need to know?
[07:32] <stevildead> v0latil3_: ill c
[07:32] <v0latil3_> wait the ubuntu image is only 700MB
[07:32] <v0latil3_> whats the problem?
[07:32] <aeaglez> I am running out of space on my ubuntu partition, i kind of messed up when i first made my partitions
[07:33] <v0latil3_> aegis, what is the current setup
[07:33] <v0latil3_> (partiotions and size)
[07:33] <stevildead> v0latil3_: no does not wrk on mac
[07:34] <aeaglez> just my linux-swap is 10gb, and my dedicated harddrive for linux is 27gb
[07:34] <v0latil3_> is the 27GB first? also what filesystem?
[07:35] <aeaglez> the 27gb is not first, the ntfs is the very first
[07:35] <v0latil3_> do you want to make swap smaller and the linux partition bigger?
[07:35] <aeaglez> i need a bigger partition for linux
[07:35] <aeaglez> the filesystem is ext4
[07:36] <v0latil3_> what partition do you plan to make smaller
[07:36] <ObrienDave> how many ntfs partitions?
[07:36] <aeaglez> the windows partition i plan to make smaller
[07:36] <v0latil3_> i would go in windows computer management > disk management, then resize it how you want
[07:36] <aeaglez> 2 ntfs partitions, one is the windows one(634gb) and the other im not sure of but its 400mb
[07:36] <v0latil3_> it will create an unallocated blank of space on your hard drive
[07:37] <v0latil3_> dont touch the 400MB one that would mess stuff up
[07:37] <v0latil3_> go in windows and shrink the 634 GB one
[07:37] <ObrienDave> the 400mb is the windows boot or recovery partition. leave that one alone
[07:37] <aeaglez> i can do that, but the problem is that the linux one is locked
[07:38] <v0latil3_> What do you mean it is locked?
[07:38] <aeaglez> the /dev/sda7 is locked and it keeps giving an error message when i try to unmount it
[07:38] <hikenboot> sorry any of you guys know what "couldn't find needed C header for back end" means?
[07:38] <aeaglez> it has a key next to it
[07:38] <v0latil3_> oh
[07:38] <aeaglez> it says it cant unmount because its holding another mount on it or something like that
[07:38] <v0latil3_> aeaglez, you have to do this from a live usb or something. you cant change the partition of the os you are using to change
[07:38] <v0latil3_> do you have an ubuntu live usb?
[07:39] <aeaglez> no i have it on a live cd though
[07:39] <v0latil3_> ok thats fine
[07:39] <kryto> delete windoes throw it away, start over
[07:39] <v0latil3_> boot into that, and then you can change the partition that is locked
[07:39] <aeaglez> will it delete all the work i have on ubuntu?
[07:39] <v0latil3_> it shouldnt
[07:40] <v0latil3_> gparted would warn you if it would
[07:40] <stevildead> v0latil3_: it says the usb disk is 1g, but only 20mg available, and nothings on it??
[07:40] <aeaglez> and should i make the windows partition smaller right now?
[07:40] <v0latil3_> stevildead, reformat the usb disk
[07:40] <v0latil3_> aeaglez, yes
[07:40] <stevildead> v0latil3_: not sure how
[07:40] <ChronicLlama> stevildead, check if theres any partitions you dont know about
[07:40] <v0latil3_> do it from windows though, as to not confuse it
[07:40] <v0latil3_> stevildead, put it in the computer
[07:40] <v0latil3_> and open the program gparted
[07:41] <stevildead> v0latil3_: its in
[07:41] <stevildead> v0latil3_: on the mac book
[07:41] <v0latil3_> ok
[07:41] <aeaglez> ok perfect and one more thing,do i put in the CD i first installed ubuntu with to edit the partition?
[07:41] <stevildead> v0latil3_: im in the get info section
[07:41] <bacho> ukraine
[07:41] <stevildead> v0latil3_: and the folder is open
[07:41] <v0latil3_> aeaglez, yes
[07:42] <v0latil3_> stevildead, does your macbook have a program for changing partitions?
[07:42] <v0latil3_> some type of disk manager?
[07:42] <aeaglez> alright and how big should the linux-swap partition be? i have it at 10gb so i know i did that wrong
[07:42] <stevildead> v0latil3_: ummm not sure, it isnt mine
[07:42] <v0latil3_> aeaglez, how much ram do you have?
[07:42] <aeaglez> 8gb
[07:43] <v0latil3_> you want at least 8 if you want to be able to hibernate
[07:43] <v0latil3_> i think 10 is fine if you use hibernation
[07:43] <aeaglez> alright so ill jsut leave it as that
[07:43] <v0latil3_> okay
[07:43] <aeaglez> alright man, thanks ill let you know if it worked
[07:44] <v0latil3_> stevildead, open disk utility program
[07:44] <themexbob> hello need help find script / command running during system startup.  When I run "top", I see command executed by root and process id but cannot find path for script.
[07:45] <stevildead> v0latil3_: ok
[07:46] <v0latil3_> is there a place to use the usb disk?
[07:46] <stevildead> v0latil3_: im erasing it
[07:46] <v0latil3_> okay. just make sure dont erase the hard drive :)
[07:46] <stevildead> v0latil3_: lol
[07:47]  * cfhowlett thinks it's always funny - until someone actually DOES wipe the HDD ...
[07:48] <v0latil3_> "disk destroyer"
[07:48] <v0latil3_> aka dd
[07:50] <v0latil3_> stevildead, is it done now?
[07:51] <stevildead> v0latil3_: yes, i am transferring the iso to it now
[07:52] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3_: lol disk destroyer
[07:52] <stevildead> v0latil3_: its done
[07:53] <v0latil3_> oh
[07:53] <v0latil3_> did you just copy the iso to it or did you actually write the image onto the disk?
[07:53] <stevildead> v0latil3_: written
[07:53] <v0latil3_> ok
[07:53] <stevildead> v0latil3_: it took a mim
[07:53] <stevildead> min
[07:53] <v0latil3_> now put it into the other computer and boot it
[07:54] <helmut_> hi
[07:55] <v0latil3_> stevildead, its probabl a key like ESC, f2, f7, or something like that
[07:55] <stevildead> v0latil3_: so restart then f12 n boot from disk
[07:55] <stevildead> v0latil3_: or whatever
[07:56] <stevildead> v0latil3_: i really appreciate the help
[07:56] <v0latil3_> yes
[07:56] <v0latil3_> are you on the pc you are updating right now for irc?
[07:56] <stevildead> v0latil3_: yes
[07:56] <guyuehuanyu> ?
[07:56] <v0latil3_> okay.
[07:56] <v0latil3_> so when you boot it
[07:57] <v0latil3_> it should ask some options
[07:57] <stevildead> v0latil3_: like run live or install
[07:57] <guyuehuanyu> ?
[07:57] <v0latil3_> 1. replace current install 2. upgrade current install 3. dual boot both 4. something else
[07:57] <v0latil3_> or at least something similar to that
[07:57] <v0latil3_> if it is possible do the upgrade one i think
[07:58] <stevildead> v0latil3_: ok i was gunna ask which one to pick
[07:58] <v0latil3_> you can do install or live. if you do live it brings you to the desktop, where you can pick the install option from there too. just to install when it boots
[07:58] <stevildead> v0latil3_: ok ill be back on afterwords so hopefully all goes well
[07:59] <v0latil3_> ok
[07:59] <stevildead> v0latil3_: thanks again
[07:59] <v0latil3_> yep
[08:01] <ainx> hello need help please
[08:01] <v0latil3_> HI
[08:01] <v0latil3_> ask question
[08:02] <ainx> i'm using raring 13.04 nd use xfce4 desktop and i don't know why my xfce panel can't show but i already running
[08:02] <ainx> its*
[08:03] <v0latil3_> hmm i have never used xfce and dont know much about it i cant help you on that one.
[08:03] <themexbob> hello need help find script / command running during system startup.  When I run "top", I see command executed by root and process id but cannot find path for script.  Does anyone know a command I can use to find script location or file launching script?
[08:03] <cfhowlett> ainx, check the settings to see if it's auto-hiding
[08:03] <ainx> <v0latil3_> : what is your desktop ?
[08:03] <v0latil3_> unity or whatever the default is
[08:03] <ainx> no, it's not auto hidding
[08:03] <Beldar> !tab | ainx
 what's that mean ?
[08:05] <ainx> !tab
[08:05] <v0latil3_> ainx, try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/224006/resetting-xfce-panels-to-default-settings
[08:05] <Beldar> ainx, """You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC,""" ainx is you nick
[08:06] <ainx> v0latil3_: ok i'll try
[08:06] <v0latil3_> ainx, what they mean is like this: type "v0" then if you press tab key, it will complete my name so you dont have to type the whole thing
[08:06] <ainx> thanks everybody
[08:07] <wheatthin> I love an appreciative community :)
[08:07] <tvin> Does all of Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250  features work on Ubuntu?
[08:08] <wheatthin> tvin, wintv, I dunno
[08:08] <v0latil3_> lol
[08:10] <wheatthin> if it's supported at all, I'm sure it's not "All" supported
[08:10] <ainx> v0
[08:10] <ainx> ?
[08:10] <wheatthin> v0 and then hit tab key on the left
[08:10] <v0latil3_> press tab after youtype that
[08:10] <ainx>  i dont care about that, but thanks to help :D
[08:10] <hikenboot> what version of ubuntu was stable in 2003
[08:11] <wheatthin> ainx, well it helps, especially when typing in directory paths in the terminal
[08:11] <tvin> On this page, does IR mean remote?
[08:11] <tvin> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Digital_Tuner_Cards
[08:11] <wheatthin> tvin, it means infrared, and yes
[08:11] <hikenboot> I have a program from 2003 I am trying to run and its missing an obsolete library
[08:12] <tvin> wheatthin so is it saying that the remote of that tuner card won't work on ubuntu?
[08:12] <wheatthin> hikenboot, ehh, depending on what it is, we usually don't support not ubuntu software
[08:12] <hikenboot> my question is a ubuntu question how do i find out what was ubuntu stable in 2003
[08:13] <ikonia> hikenboot: it will be ubuntu x.03
[08:13] <cfhowlett> hikenboot, 2003?  nada ...
[08:13] <ikonia> hikenboot: but of course the release will be long long dead
[08:13] <ikonia> wasn't 04 the first release ?
[08:13] <Beldar> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[08:13] <wheatthin> yeah that would be the clue I got, but it depends when this was published
[08:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Mhm. 4.10
[08:13] <ObrienDave> hikenboot, Ubuntu was not released until October 2004, so the answer is NONE
[08:13] <cfhowlett> 4.10 and hardly "stable"
[08:14] <tvin> Would someone please help me figure this out
[08:14] <wheatthin> You'd probably want to go to ##hardware
[08:14] <ikonia> tvin: figure what out ?
[08:14] <hikenboot>  thanks then i have to find a debian release from 2003
[08:15] <ikonia> hikenboot: I'd advise against that, it's better to try to resolve the problem, instead of installing a dead OS
[08:15] <wheatthin> yeah, dead os's == even less support
[08:16] <tvin> ikonia: If all of Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250's features will work on ubuntu
[08:16] <ikonia> tvin it will depend on if that card is supported and the software you use with it
[08:16] <hikenboot> its a small program that needs a library it has to run once for me and only once
[08:17] <wheatthin> ikonia, that site is showing that the IR isn't supported.. otherwise it's working
[08:17] <ikonia> hikenboot: you're not going to get help being as cryptic as that, so do what you want
[08:17] <ikonia> wheatthin: what site ?
[08:17] <wheatthin> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Digital_Tuner_Cards
[08:17] <gogomall> uuuu
[08:17] <ikonia> tvin: there you go, see the url wheatthin posted
[08:17] <gogomall> iiii
[08:18] <tvin> wheatthin: Why didn't you say that earlier when i asked you that?
[08:18] <wheatthin> gogomall, please ask something instead of just typing stuff..
[08:18] <wheatthin> I did, you just didn't listen.
[08:18] <tvin> You didn't say my name when you did it for sure anyway
[08:20] <tvin> ikonia: Well other stuff suggests it might work, this information might be dated, but the pages on this subject are messy and technical. I take it you don't know much about this yourself?
[08:20] <tvin> and it wasn't wheatthins link, it was mine
[08:20]  * cfhowlett doesn't have cable cuz IRC is WAY more entertaining.  :)
[08:20] <ikonia> tvin: actually I used multiple hapuage cards for years with mythtv without any problems
[08:20] <wheatthin> tvin, it's easier to try the installation process and getting feedback, than speculation..
[08:20] <tvin> ikonia: Remote works too?
[08:21] <tvin> wheatthin: Not if you haven't bought the card. i want to know if it will work before buying it
[08:21] <ikonia> tvin: it did with liirc, but I never set it up as I wrong a phone app for it
[08:21] <tvin> ikonia: What is liirc and I don't understand "I wrong app for it"
[08:22] <ikonia> oops, "wrote"
[08:22] <tvin> ikonia: What is liirc?
[08:23] <ikonia> tvin: program for managing irda / remote controls
[08:23] <Weibolon> ,.-
[08:23] <Weibolon> hai
[08:24] <tvin> ikonia: So it worked with mythtv, but does that mean it will work with ubuntu as well?
[08:25] <wheatthin> tvin, not all features, but the main device would definitely.. features depend on the software written for it.
[08:26] <Weibolon> g
[08:26] <Weibolon> halle N2
[08:27] <tvin> wheatthin: Obviously the necessary software is included in the question. So what features would not work with ubuntu ?
[08:27] <Weibolon> arch
[08:28] <wheatthin> omg dude.. go to hardware.
[08:28] <tvin> who are you talking to?
[08:28] <Weibolon> jesus
[08:29] <wheatthin> they'll know more your specific hardware, and what's supported under Any linux.
[08:29] <new-user> hi all
[08:29] <new-user> any nude here... lol
[08:29] <cfhowlett> new-user, ha ... no.  wrong channel.
[08:29] <wheatthin> new-user, don't be a troll this is support channel
[08:29] <new-user> hahaha.... just kidding... lol
[08:30] <cfhowlett> new-user, strangely unfunny.  do you have an actual ubuntu support question?
[08:31] <tvin> ikonia: So would it work with ubuntu, if you got it working with myth TV?
[08:31] <new-user> cfhowlett , sorry... no question, i'm just try with chat... thank's before :)
[08:34] <ikonia> tvin: it depends, as I've not used them for about 2 years, so the kernel (which gives it support) will have been updated, mythtv is an application suite, not an OS
[08:35] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[08:35] <new-user> wow so many people here
[08:35] <eg0x> :D
[08:36] <tvin> ikonia: So it sits on top of ubuntu? Like a media player?
[08:37] <SonikkuAmerica> tvin: Yeah... kind of like that.
[08:38] <new-user> saucy salamander :)
[08:39] <eagles0513875> hey Beldar :( got some bad news
[08:39] <tvin> ikonia: You think kernal updates might break compatibility?
[08:40] <new-user> hi bot
[08:41] <tvin> How often does kernal updates break compatibility
[08:41] <tvin> ?
[08:42] <Ben64> almost never?
[08:42] <new-user> yup
[08:43] <aeaglez> its not letting me partition
[08:44] <new-user> what you install
[08:44] <Ben64> aeaglez: gonna need all the details in order to help
[08:44] <aeaglez> i booted a live cd
[08:44] <aeaglez> ok im trying to partition my drive
[08:44] <aeaglez> and i booted from a live cd like you guys told me
[08:45] <Ben64> try typing the story out all on one line, it makes it much easier to read
[08:45] <tvin> So what features of Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 are known to work from experience on ubuntu?
[08:46] <aeaglez> and now i have 500gb of free space that isnt letting me partition when im at the installation page, i try to add more gb on the linux boot, but it jsut gives me a option to take of gb, not to add. What could be the problem here?
[08:46] <Ben64> tvin: you'd probably get a better result from google and/or askubuntu than here.... the chances someone else here has that exact card is fairly low
[08:46] <Jordan_U> aeaglez: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[08:46] <ObrienDave> aeaglez, reboot into live mode, we'll install later
[08:47] <aeaglez> you want me to reboot into live mode?
[08:47] <aeaglez> and Jordan_U its giving me a error
[08:47] <tvin> Ben64: On freenode /join #askubuntu?
[08:48] <Jordan_U> aeaglez: Please pastebin the complete output of the command.
[08:48] <Ben64> tvin: http://askubuntu.com/
[08:48] <Ben64> tvin: or describe your problem here in a way that doesn't require us to have your tv card
[08:48] <aeaglez> parted: invalid option -- '1'
[08:48] <aeaglez> Usage: parted [-hlmsv] [-a<align>] [DEVICE [COMMAND [PARAMETERS]]...]
[08:48] <new-user> http://askubuntu.com/ not http://askme.com/
[08:48] <new-user> lol
[08:49] <Ben64> new-user: what?
[08:49] <new-user> just kidding bro :)
[08:49] <Ben64> aeaglez: its a lower case L, not a 1
[08:49] <Ben64> new-user: please don't
[08:49] <new-user> sorry....
[08:49] <aeaglez> Model: ATA Hitachi HTS54757 (scsi)
[08:49] <aeaglez> Disk /dev/sda: 750GB
[08:49] <aeaglez> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
[08:49] <aeaglez> Partition Table: gpt
[08:49] <aeaglez> Number  Start   End    Size    File system     Name                          Flags
[08:49] <aeaglez>  1      1049kB  420MB  419MB   ntfs            Basic data partition          hidden, diag
[08:49] <FloodBot1> aeaglez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:49] <ObrienDave> aeaglez, copy and paste into terminal: sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[08:50] <ObrienDave> give us the URL
[08:50] <aeaglez> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6528801/
[08:50] <tvin> Ben64:  I don't understand this much at all "describe your problem here in a way that doesn't require us to have your tv card"
[08:50] <sdfsdfsdfsg432s> hi, i am trying to partition my second hard drive for data storage (for system i use ssd), and in disk tool included with ubuntu i get "partition is misaligned by 512 bytes", so what im doing wrong, or what could i do
[08:51] <sdfsdfsdfsg432s> i already googled, and found only that it is maybe caused by western digital advanced thing, but im using a seagate here.
[08:51] <Ben64> tvin: what problem are you having
[08:51] <tvin> Ben64: And actually the chance that someone has this exact card is extremely high, since the pickings of the tuner card market are very slim
[08:52] <aeaglez> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6528801/
[08:52] <Beldar> eagles0513875, what is it?
[08:52] <eagles0513875> Beldar: drive is failing :(
[08:52] <eagles0513875> the testdisk log is showing IO errors :(
[08:52] <Beldar> eagles0513875, ah, bummer.
[08:52] <eagles0513875> Beldar: if i reformat the drive is there a way i can recover the data on it first
[08:52] <eagles0513875> or is all the data lost
[08:52] <tvin> Ben64: What features will work with the Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 card on ubuntu. Please keep in mind I do not own the card, I am asking to decide if I should buy it
[08:52] <Jordan_U> sdfsdfsdfsg432s: http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/advice.html is a good explanation of what alignment means, and why being misaligned by 512 bytes will give you terrible performance on newer drives.
[08:53] <sdfsdfsdfsg432s> thanks, will check it out if i could find help to solve it
[08:53] <eagles0513875> Beldar: what sucks is this is the second disk in less then 2 weeks to head south
[08:53] <aeaglez> jordan did you see the paste?
[08:53] <sdfsdfsdfsg432s> and i have formatted it to MBR partitioning btw
[08:53] <Beldar> eagles0513875, I don't exactly remember your situation, I'm not really an expert in that area.
[08:53] <jordan> aeaglez: no
[08:54] <eagles0513875> im the guy that was having issues with dolphin picking up my external hard disk and all utilities showing that it was notn partitioned no file system etc
[08:54] <eagles0513875> you told me and suggested i run testdisk
[08:54] <Jordan_U> aeaglez: If you don't use my full nick in your messages then I will likely miss them.
[08:54] <Ben64> tvin: yeah, that is really a better question for google and/or askubuntu. despite what you think, the chances are still very low anyone here has personal experience with that card
[08:55] <aeaglez> ok im sorry, its just that i dont know how to make your name red like you make mine
[08:55] <Beldar> eagles0513875, WD drive?
[08:55] <sdfsdfsdfsg432s> i checked it quite fast but could not find how to solve this problem, i know that it does give a bad performance, but how to solve it? i probably should read it more carefully, but still..
[08:55] <junktext> Or that person may be asleep at the moment. @ tvin
[08:55] <eagles0513875> Beldar: ya WD my passport ultra
[08:55] <aeaglez> But Jordan_U, do you want me to write the paste again?
[08:55] <eagles0513875> its still under the guarantee
[08:56] <Jordan_U> sdfsdfsdfsg432s: You can use gparted properly align the partition, though it will take a long time.
[08:56] <ObrienDave> aeaglez, type a few characters of the nickname then hit TAB to auto-complete
[08:56] <Jordan_U> aeaglez: Just include my nick in your message.
[08:56] <sdfsdfsdfsg432s> does it take a long time if i just delete partition and make a new one, or does this cause again "misaligned"
[08:56] <ObrienDave> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6528801/
[08:56] <aeaglez> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6528801/
[08:56] <sdfsdfsdfsg432s> this drive does not have data at this time
[08:56] <ObrienDave> lol
[08:57] <aeaglez> lol my bad
[08:57] <Jordan_U> sdfsdfsdfsg432s: If you don't have anything important on the partition then just deleting and re-creating in GParted is fast and ideal. GParted automatically uses proper allignment.
[08:57] <sdfsdfsdfsg432s> ah okay, i download gparted then from the software center, thanks. and i do not have anything important on that since it's empty and im trying to get it to use the correct way
[08:58] <Jordan_U> aeaglez: Please post a screenshot of the point in the Ubuntu installer where you're not able to resize any further.
[08:58] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | aeaglez
[08:59] <sdfsdfsdfsg432s> Jordan_U: thanks a lot! gparted did it and disk tool now doesnt complain about it anymore
[09:00] <Jordan_U> sdfsdfsdfsg432s: You're welcome.
[09:00] <aeaglez> Jordan_U, how is that going to work?When im in the installer i doesnt let me save photos i take with prt screen
[09:00] <wheatthin> aeaglez, yes, it's copied in clipboard
[09:00] <cfhowlett> aeaglez, boot "try ubuntu"  then launch the installer.  you can screenshot away
[09:01] <aeaglez> ok ill try it
[09:01] <Semor> Does ftime() generate one interrupt ?
[09:03] <tvin> Does myth TV work for recording input from a HDMI port of a video card?
[09:12] <Lope> I had spice-vdagent running as root. I've stopped the service. now I want to start it as user. how can I do that?
[09:13] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> Jordan_U i faced a little problem with the partition i made with gparted, it seems i only have read access to it, i cannot make new folders to it etc..
[09:13] <Ben64> ssdfssdfgdfg4354: what filesystem?
[09:13] <hays> upgraded to 13.10 and am having errors.  getting a message that says there is an internal error
[09:13] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> Ben64: ext4
[09:13] <hays> Xorg crashed with SIGABRT in OsAbort()
[09:13] <Ben64> ssdfssdfgdfg4354: because you don't have permission. you need to use root or give your user permission
[09:14] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> how i can do that, run file manager as root and change permissions of that or?
[09:14] <Ben64> easier to use command line, imo
[09:14] <hays> any ideas what this is or how to fix?
[09:15] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> what's the right command since i only know "apt-get" commands, if any information needed just ask
[09:15] <hays> I had some problems upgrading.. the process didn't complete and I had to run dpkg-configure -a manually from a console
[09:15] <Lope> thanks sorted!!
[09:15] <Ben64> ssdfssdfgdfg4354: sudo chown your_username /path/to/mounted/partition
[09:16] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> so, should it for me be "sudo chown a123 /media/1TB"
[09:16] <Ben64> looks good
[09:16] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> alright i do it then
[09:16] <Ben64> then you should be able to create files/folders/whatever
[09:17] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> still i cannot after doing that, should i then replace /media/1TB with /dev/sdb or?
[09:18] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> oops no problem anymore, i just remounted it and it now works
[09:18] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> so another problem solved today, thanks!
[09:19] <Venko> Hey all, yesterday I asked about pointing my @ DNS entry for my domain to my droplet's IP address. I did that and it works but someone mentioned something about reverse DNS yesterday. What do I have to do re that?
[09:19] <Ben64> Venko: sounds like a question for ##networking
[09:19] <Venko> Ben64: Alright I'll ask there. Thanks :)
[09:20] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> thanks again finally i get my hdd to use, thanks!
[09:24] <hays> I can't seem to find xorg.conf.. does it not exist anymore?
[09:24] <hays> trying to figure out what video driver im using
[09:25] <gordonjcp> hays: no, it doesn't
[09:25] <gordonjcp> hays: you can add one if you feel you need it
[09:26] <gordonjcp> hays: typically you'd do this if you have deeply weirdass hardware that needs incredibly specific settings
[09:26] <hays> well im getting an error that seems to have been around for 2 years with no path to resolution, so im trying to troubleshoot
[09:26] <gordonjcp> hays: what may be more helpful is either /var/log/Xorg.0.log or the output of lspci
[09:26] <gordonjcp> hays: an error, y'say?
[09:28] <hays> yep ubuntu internal error SIGABORT from xorg
[09:29] <hays> hmm i think im using the intel driver, which makes sense
[09:34] <ola2> im not able to copy file from pendrive to ubuntu
[09:34] <ola2> error while splicing file
[09:36] <Lunar_Lamp> \/win 30
[09:38] <ucenik> hi. i have file 11111.pdf.sng file. how can i open it in ubuntu?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> ucenik: what sort of file is it?
[09:39] <ucenik><PHONE_NUMBER>-20130731_HR_MER.pdf.sgn
[09:39] <aeaglez> ok im back
[09:39] <ucenik> closest i found is some sierra print artist
[09:39] <ucenik> type of file
[09:39] <aeaglez> Jordan_U, i have the picture, where do i post it?
[09:39] <ucenik> tinypic aeaglez
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> ucenik: naming files doesnt tell us what it is
[09:40] <DJones> !imagebin | aeaglez
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> ucenik: you can use the 'file' command in terminal and it will tell you what it is
[09:40] <ucenik> it was sent to me by friend who didnt know how to open it, ActionParsnip
[09:40] <aeaglez> imagebin or tinypic which one?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> ucenik: file extensions don't mean much in Linux
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> ucenik: use the 'file' command in terminal, it will tell you
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> ucenik: eg:     file<PHONE_NUMBER>-20130731_HR_MER.pdf.sgn
[09:41] <ucenik> will try
[09:41] <schultza> I cant seem to update from 13.04 to 13.10. Keeps giving the following message: Could not calculate the upgrade. An unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade. This can be caused by: * Upgradeing to a pre-release version of Ubuntu (no). * Running the current pre-prelease version of Ubuntu (no). * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu. I thought I cleared thesews out. D
[09:41] <schultza> Do I need to rename some of my ppa files?
[09:42] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: Probably not; let's examine your configuration.
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> schultza: yes, disabling PPAs if you are getting the next release is agood move
[09:43] <aeaglez> how am i supposed to post the picture up now, its on my clipboard
[09:43] <schultza> I thought it auto-disabled all ppas.
[09:43] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: Well yeah, ActionParsnip is right, but you don't have to *rename* them.
[09:43] <aeaglez> i doubt its still on it but according  to the people of ubuntu its still on it
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> aeaglez: imageshack, tinypic etc......
[09:44] <ucenik> ActionParsnip, its xml file but i tried to open it before with firefox, it gave me just random letters and
[09:44] <ucenik>         This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below.
[09:44] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: Go ahead and disable the PPAs, then try the release upgrade again.
[09:44] <schultza> Is there a fast and easy way to disable the PPAs?
[09:45] <aeaglez> ActionParsnip, I am on them but how am i supposed to paste it? Its not letting me paste it just like that, its telling me to upload it
[09:45] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: Sure! Look up "Software and Updates" in the dash! Click on the second tab and uncheck all the boxes!
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> aeaglez: make a file of the paste, then upload
[09:47] <schultza> Retrying. Thanks if this works.
[09:47] <schultza> Is there a so-called semi-rolling release out yet?
[09:48] <aeaglez> ActionParsnip,  Do you know what they were telling me to do? They said go to the install screen where you repartition your drive and prt scrn, im just failing to see how the image is still going to be on the clipboard after the screen goes black for about 20 seconds
[09:48] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: That idea was abandoned in favor of 9-month support schedules for non-LTS releases.
[09:48] <schultza> Wow. I'd much prefer the rolling release style.
[09:48] <schultza> Same issue. Problem with the upgrade.
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> schultza: then use a rolling release distro, like ebian
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> schultza: or, stick to LTS for 5 years support
[09:49] <ucenik> so, anyone has idea how to open xml file that is not meant for firefox
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> ucenik: use gedit.....
[09:50] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: Well then, let's check. Update the APT system, then run [ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f ] to make sure all the 13.04 packages are in their most recent versions.
[09:50] <ucenik> ActionParsnip, same as firefox. i think its encrypted. but i would expect file would give that info
[09:50] <schultza> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f
[09:51] <aeaglez> ActionParsnip,  could you have an idea why its not letting me partition my drive? Because im really tired at this point ive been trying for the past 2 hours and everyone keeps toying with me
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> ucenik: could be corrupt
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> aeaglez: is the drive healthy?
[09:51] <aeaglez> ActionParsnip,  what do you mean ?
[09:51] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: ... in a terminal :)
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> aeaglez: as in mechanically ok? Are there partitions on it presently?
[09:53] <schultza> It says: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:53] <aeaglez> ActionParsnip,  the driver is perfect all the partitions are there, but i have about 400gb free space and when i want to add it  onto  my ubuntu parition it doesnt give me a option to add space, only to remove
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> aeaglez: are any of the partitions mounted right now?
[09:54] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: How are you performing release upgrades, via the terminal or using the Update Manager?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> schultza: try:  sudo do-release-upgrade
[09:54] <schultza> terminal's do-release-upgrade
[09:54] <schultza> yes with ... oh jeez
[09:54] <aeaglez> ActionParsnip,  only the ubuntu drive, but thats why i am trying to do this through live CD because Gparted doesnt let me unmount it
[09:55] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: Yeah, when all else fails, sudo.
[09:55] <schultza> smacks self
[09:55] <schultza> how did i forget sudo
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> aeaglez: have you fsck'd the partition so you know it is healthy?
[09:55] <aeaglez> ActionParsnip, i dont know what that is
[09:56] <asad2005> My PC have Radeon HD 5670/5690/5730 PCI-E as well as the MB built in Intel® HD Graphics How can i activate similtanously use the bulit in to a second monitor
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> aeaglez: its like scandisk in Windows
[09:56] <schultza> even with sudo, it errors with the same error.
[09:57] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: SCANDISK :\ That hasn't been used in a new release of Windows since 1997
[09:57] <aeaglez> ActionParsnip,  the partition is healthy i know that for sure, i would know if the drive is bad
[09:58] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: Run [ lsb_release -a ]
[09:59] <schultza> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6528983/
[10:00] <aeaglez> ActionParsnip, so im guessing you cant help me either on this?
[10:01] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: Hmmm... no problem there. Try this: [ grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log ]
[10:02] <aeaglez>  /quit
[10:02] <schultza> hmm... <http://paste.ubuntu.com/6528989/>
[10:04] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: Can you have a look at schultza 's pastebin? I think I found what's causing the release upgrade mess... all 83 of it...
[10:06] <schultza> Be back. Please pm any responses so I can keep up with the conversation when I get back.
[10:08]  * Rory uses the fantastic weechat script "highmon.pl" to put all his highlights in their own buffer, thus avoiding the above problem
[10:09] <schultza> Rory: I dont have weechat installed.
[10:09] <schultza> Btw, I'm back.
[10:09] <_root_> hello
[10:10] <_root_> Why my nginx socket folder in /var/run is being deleted every time restart my server?
[10:10] <Jordan_U> schultza: In almost any client, "/lastlog schultza" will show all messages to or from you in the channel.
[10:11] <schultza> That didnt do much for me in KVirc 4.1.3
[10:11] <Guest58909> hello i need help with my usb wireless adapter named alfa AWUs036h my adpter its slow and sometimes connection is dropping
[10:13] <schultza> um.. is weechat based on quassel or vice-versa?
[10:16] <dave23> hello
[10:16] <dave23> i need help with my alfa awus036h adapter pliissss help me!!!!!!!!
[10:16] <thief_and_a_liar> lol
[10:17] <thief_and_a_liar> pls help
[10:17] <schultza> sudo apt-get install -f doesnt fix the issue either
[10:17] <Beldar> schultza, try sudo apt-get -f install
[10:18] <schultza> that didnt work either...
[10:18] <schultza> both of them
[10:19] <mephr> #R
[10:19] <ucenik> digitally signed pdf document  from the bank, how to open in ubuntu
[10:19] <Rory> !details | dave23
[10:19] <ucenik> ActionParsnip?
[10:20] <Rory> schultza: Neither, weechat and quassel are completely different clients
[10:20] <dave23> theres any bodythere how to fix slow connection and dropping connection of ALFA AWUS036H wireless adapter im using xubuntu  12.04 Lts
[10:20] <schultza> is that /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log completely remade or just updated like a log file?
[10:20] <schultza> Rory: Thanks. I did some research. It looks like I may like quassel better.
[10:20] <Rory> schultza: They server different needs
[10:21] <Rory> serve*
[10:21] <schultza> Rory: I jsut need an IRC (preferably gui based) client that allows me to chat into any window from the same input.
[10:21] <Rory> dave23: Can you please paste the output from the command "sudo lspci -v && sudo lsusb -v" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:22] <Rory> dave23: You can do this easily by "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" and then "sudo lspci -v && sudo lsusb -v | pastebinit"
[10:22] <schultza> be back
[10:24] <schultza> I'm back. Any fix for my broken packages possibly preventing me from upgrading my distro from 13.04 to 13.10?
[10:25] <Beldar> schultza, Any these broken attached to PPA's?
[10:25] <dave23> http://pastebin.com/Fn2x1Lxh
[10:25] <schultza> Beldar: I dont know. The video stuff, no.
[10:25] <schultza> teamviewer, yes.
[10:25] <dave23> thats the url
[10:25] <schultza> The rest, unsure.
[10:27] <Beldar> schultza, If ou have ppa's then that would be my suspicion, I have not seen all your posts though.
[10:27] <Beldar> you*
[10:27] <schultza> Beldar: Here is the list of my PPAs. <http://paste.ubuntu.com/6529087/>
[10:27] <cfhowlett> schultza, perhaps better to torrent 13.10 and clean install.
[10:27] <schultza> cfhowlett: Ouch. I really don't want to redo my install completely. I worked hard to get where I am now.
[10:28] <Beldar> schultza, Have you checked if any if thise have 13,10 packages>
[10:29] <Rory> dave23: Could you tell me the output of the command: uname -r
[10:29] <schultza> Beldar: According to another's instructions, I have disabled the PPAs in the Software&Updates section and attempted another "do-release-upgrade".
[10:30] <ola2> where does add-apt repository add in source
[10:30] <schultza> Beldar: I have not checked for 13.10 packages.
[10:30] <Rory> ola2: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/some_repository.list
[10:30] <Beldar> schultza, Do you have the update and upgrade in the OS with the errors?
[10:30] <ola2> ty
[10:30] <Rory> dave23: Could you also ensure you include my name in any messages intended for me, or I might miss them
[10:30] <dave23> rory,3.2.0-52-generic
[10:31] <schultza> Beldar: What do you mean? Do I have "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" errors? No. Completely clean exit on those.
[10:31] <ucenik> how to add certificate for documents  in viewing program so  that i can open digitally signed documents?
[10:32] <Beldar> schultza, So you get an error on the do-release?
[10:32] <dave23> Rory:3.2.0-52-generic
[10:32] <schultza> Beldar: Yes. Unresolved calculation errors.
[10:32] <Ven-2> Hello
[10:32] <Rory> dave23: Can you go to realtek's driver download page here [ http://goo.gl/EgjGKL ] and download the driver for RTL8187L marked: Linux driver for Kernel 3.0.0/3.1.0/3.2.0
[10:32] <Ven-2> what I can put my font into ubuntu repository?
[10:32] <Rory> dave23: Basically follow this answer from Askubuntu http://askubuntu.com/a/178017/62969
[10:32] <ucenik> i need to add crt file to pdf viewer so i could verify and open it. there is procedure for acrobat reader, but how can i do it in linux
[10:33] <evon> One of the reasons I move from windows to linux fulltime is to avoid viruses and spyware.  Recently however i've been getting banner ads popping up out of nowhere on websites I've been visiting.  These ads just get in the way so I know they are not from the sites I've been visiting.  My linkedin account has a banner ad just blocking my links right now and it's pissin me off.  Any idea what I can do to remedy the situati
[10:33] <evon> on?
[10:33] <ucenik> evon install adblockplus addon for firefox
[10:33] <schultza> Be back.
[10:34] <Rory> evon: What browser are you using? Does it occur in other browsers on the same system?
[10:34] <Rory> ucenik: That won't actually solve the root problem
[10:34] <Beldar> schultza, My guess is if you want the distro upgrade and the HD is not just to full you will have to ppa-purge some or all of them.
[10:34] <damir__> get adblock plus + ghostery and get ready for a drastically different web experience
[10:34] <evon> ucenik, Rory.  Using firefox and it doesn't happen in chrome
[10:35] <Rory> evon: Can you check your list of browser addons in Firefox?
[10:35] <Rory> evon: One of those is probably doing it
[10:35] <Rory> evon: If it isn't obvious which one it is, just disable them all, and re-enable them one by one, restarting Firefox in between each time, until the ads appear again
[10:36] <schultza> Beldar: Is there a fast way to do that?
[10:36] <evon> Rory Ok i'm going to do that now
[10:36] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | schultza there is only one way
[10:36] <ucenik> my first pick would be adblockplus :p but if you randomly install stuff in browser what Rory said is also good to do
[10:37] <ucenik> how can i add digital signature file to document viewer so i can open digitally signed documents?
[10:38] <Rory> ucenik: You need to import the .crt file to your Passwords and Encryption Keys
[10:38] <Rory> ucenik: Not in a specific PDF viewier.
[10:38] <ucenik> !
[10:39] <hisham> Hi how are you please how to install dev C++ in linux ?? :/
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> hisham: install build-essential
[10:39] <Ven-2> Anybody can help me publicate my font on Ubuntu repositories?
[10:39] <cfhowlett> ?publicate?
[10:40] <Rory> Ven-2: You can make a PPA
[10:40] <hisham> build-essential ??
[10:40] <cfhowlett> Ven-2, yep.  ppa is the way
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> hisham: yes
[10:40] <Rory> Ven-2: Look here https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[10:40] <Ven-2> cfhowlett, hete is my font
[10:40] <Ven-2> https://github.com/texrg/Labiryntowy
[10:40] <hisham> Ok thanks i see
[10:40] <Ven-2> Rory, ok, can You help me?
[10:40] <schultza> Beldar: Thank you.
[10:40] <Rory> Ven-2: I've never done it before, but the instructions are clear and detailed
[10:41] <_root_> Why my nginx socket folder in /var/run is being deleted every time restart my server?
[10:41] <Ven-2> PPA is not good idea, I would like to put it in normal repo
[10:41] <evon> Rory thanks you were right.  It was an ad on. VideoStream Helper
[10:41] <Rory> Ven-2: You can't just do that, or anybody could...
[10:42] <ucenik> its always lupus. i mean, its always human error
[10:42] <Rory> Ven-2: There's a process to get your package accepted into the repositores, I think you should join the channel #ubuntu-packaging
[10:42] <cfhowlett> !contribute|Ven-2, make the font, ppa, and ask for views.
[10:43] <Ven-2> ubottu, here is trouble. Where I can put my description, where font etc.
[10:44] <bimbi> test
[10:44] <ucenik> passwords and keys doesnt see certificate i want to add
[10:44] <ucenik> http://com.pbz.hr/download/PBZeUred.crt
[10:44] <ucenik> its bank certificate for pdf files
[10:45] <Rory> Ven-2: Did you read the packaging link I sent you earlier?
[10:45] <Rory> !packaging | Ven-2
[10:46] <dave23> Rory:what if i have internet connetion i will install it on kernel?
[10:46] <Ven-2> my english is not good
[10:47] <Ven-2> this is to complicate form e
[10:48] <Rory> Ven-2: It is a complicated process
[10:48] <Rory> Ven-2: Take a look here for some translations of "Introduction to Debian Packaging" http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals#packaging-tutorial
[10:48] <Ven-2> Rory, I'm form Poland
[10:49] <cfhowlett> !pl|Ven-2
[10:50] <ucenik> qrwa mac!
[10:50] <Ven-2> ucenik, międzynarodowe ;-)
[10:50] <Rory> dave23: Not sure what you're asking; did you follow the instructions in that answer I linked you?
[10:51] <Ven-2> Rory, I open all links and read it. But this is too compilcated to me. My english is very poor
[10:52] <Ven-2> Rory, many instructions is about programs not font
[10:52] <Ven-2> (programs with sources)
[10:52] <dave23> yes but it uses internet connection to download that i don't know
[10:52] <cfhowlett> Ven-2, find your local ubuntu group.
[10:53] <hisham> how to install software centre in linux please !?
[10:53] <Ven-2> cfhowlett, I ask my question on local group about one week
[10:53] <ikonia> hisham: its installed by default in ubuntu
[10:53] <DJones> hisham: Its installed by default in Ubuntu
[10:53] <ucenik> hisham try with synaptic package manager
[10:53] <Ven-2> cfhowlett, and noting can help me, do You know any e-mails?
[10:54] <cfhowlett> Ven-2, wait 1
[10:55] <dave23>  Rory: yes but it uses internet connection to dowload that i dont know/
[10:55] <usr13> hisham: cat /etc/issue   #Tell us what that says.
[10:56] <dave23> Rory: after i type the first command it download on the terminal
[10:58] <tester> hi! What is bash command to display how many memory (RAM) each process takes?
[10:59] <usr13> tester: htop
[11:02] <usr13> tester: ... or just top, but you'll more-than-likely like htop better.
[11:02] <tester> usr13: thanks a lot!
[11:03] <tester> I do like htop much more
[11:03] <dave23> me too
[11:07] <tester> in htop, in Memory bar it says 475/1001MB, but top says that there is only 73MB of free memory... Whom to believe?..
[11:10] <tester> trying to configure a really old machine )
[11:13] <berty> .
[11:13] <tester> nevermind ) Just learned to read ;)
[11:15] <tester> thx again! Bye
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> !atemyram > tester
[11:16] <berty> whats the cleanest ubuntu so far? i basically just need a console and a very simple desktop
[11:16] <cfhowlett> berty, server or mini
[11:17] <cfhowlett> !mini
[11:17] <berty> i am not keen to install x11 on my own :(
[11:17] <Rory> !lubuntu | berty
[11:18] <Rory> berty: That's what I use at work for development
[11:18] <berty> lubuntu... nice. thanks Rory
[11:19] <berty> have you triedn crunchbang? heard good things about that.
[11:19] <berty> look nice too
[11:19] <Rory> berty: I have, but it's not supported. I do personally endorse it though :)
[11:19] <Rory> berty: I mean, it's not supported *here*
[11:19] <berty> hehe got it.
[11:19] <berty> i think its ubuntu based though, is it?
[11:19] <berty> or just debian. not sure..
[11:20] <berty> well. anyways. lets try lubuntu.
[11:20] <Beldar> archbang is nice
[11:21] <berty> i am not an arch guy...not yet ;)
[11:21] <gordonjcp> berty: I tried Arch
[11:21] <gordonjcp> it's okay, but I switched back to Ubuntu
[11:21] <gordonjcp> it has its place
[11:21] <berty> sure it has
[11:21] <berty> just heard good things about it...
[11:22] <gordonjcp> berty: I wouldn't recommend it unless you have very very specific requirements
[11:24] <berty> ok. thx guys.
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> berty: if you want a real challenge, try gentoo :)
[11:28] <Wiz_KeeD> Hey guys, how can one find out if a nvidia optimus layout can have the dedicated video card stopped from bios?
[11:28] <usr13> Wiz_KeeD: I suppose you'd look at the bios settings and see.
[11:29] <Wiz_KeeD> haha, I havn't received the notebook yet and if I couldn't i would like to refuse it before it comes XD
[11:29] <usr13> O
[11:29] <ainx> maybe my comp too old for raring, i have many problem here
[11:30] <Rory> ainx: What problems, could you provide more detail?
[11:30] <cfhowlett> ainx, try lubuntu
[11:30] <ainx> and now, i can't play music
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> ainx: install Lubuntu and you'll be ok
[11:30] <ainx> nope
[11:30] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: they all have different implementations so you're out of luck about finding out ahead of time unless someone online has detailed it very specifically.
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> ainx: Raring is going to be EOL in January next year anyway....
[11:30] <ainx> i was install all driver soundcard
[11:30] <ainx> but doesn't work
[11:31] <ainx> EOL ?
[11:31] <daftykins> end of line, unsupported
[11:31] <Rory> !eol
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> ainx: dead, not supported
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> ainx: just like WIndows XP will be on 1st April next year
[11:31] <cfhowlett> kaput, 86'd, dirtnap'd
[11:31] <ainx> wow
[11:31] <ainx> seriously ?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> ainx: yes, all OSes eventually die
[11:32] <Rory> !lts | ainx
[11:32] <cfhowlett> ainx, LTS versions (12.04) have at LEAST 3 years support so install 12.04 now and get 14.04 in April
[11:32] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: and not a moment too soon \o/ (XP)
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> ainx: can't seriosly expect companies and users to support an old relase or OS
[11:32] <cfhowlett> except for MS ...
[11:32] <Touhou11> ainx: Be aware that if you install a new Ubuntu version, it now comes with adverts and tracking: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.html You may wish to use Xubuntu or Kubuntu which don't
[11:32] <Rory> Especially Ubuntu where there's a new release every 6 months
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: i have no beef with XP, does what it says on the tin
[11:33] <Ben64> !fud | Touhou11
[11:33] <Rory> !fud | Touhou11
[11:33] <cfhowlett> Touhou11, ^^^
[11:33] <ObrienDave> what? Windows for Workgroups is EOL??? oh, the horror ;P
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: its not spyware
[11:33] <Touhou11> Ben64: So Ubuntu _doesn't_ come with adverts/tracking of users? :/
[11:33] <ainx> ok guys, i  have motherboard P5GC-MX dualcore 1GB RAM 2,8 Ghz Proccesor, what distro i can use?
[11:33] <Touhou11> Pretty sure it does
[11:33] <Rory> Touhou11: [citation needed]
[11:33] <Ben64> not on topic here, and you're wrong
[11:33] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: i'm tired of installing it and supporting it for people :)
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: users are not uniquely identified, making it not spyware
[11:34] <Rory> ainx: I personally recommend Lubuntu
[11:34] <ainx> i mean i want all componen will working good with ubuntu
[11:34] <cfhowlett> Rory, Lubuntu for the win
[11:34] <ainx> lubuntu what version?
[11:34] <daftykins> ainx: that's an old thing. Lubuntu if you want to stay Ubuntu
[11:34] <Ben64> ainx: i'd say 12.04
[11:34] <cfhowlett> ainx, then you need either verify against the hardware list or buy an OEM installed computer.
[11:34] <ainx> 12.04 LTS will be good ?
[11:34] <cfhowlett> no guarantees either way
[11:35] <Rory> ainx: System76 sell PCs/laptops with Ubuntu preinstalled and stuff
[11:35] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: Sad we have to quibble about the definition of spyware in a Linux distribution
[11:35] <cfhowlett> ainx, 12.04 IS good and it's supported to 2017
[11:35] <ainx> 12 IS, hem, i'll find out
[11:35] <Ben64> Touhou11: its very well documented and very easy to remove, and still not on topic here, and still not spyware, drop it
[11:36] <Touhou11> Ben64: Suppressing those raising valid concerns known isn't in the spirit of Open Source
[11:37] <Rory> Touhou11: Great, start a blog. This is the ubuntu support IRC channel
[11:38] <Touhou11> The EFF also has concerns about Ubuntu privacy: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks Unfortunately their suggestions have been ignored so far
[11:39] <Rory> Touhou11: Are you trying to be disruptive and get kicked so you can claim on the Internet that the #ubuntu mods are "censoring you" ?
[11:39] <usr13> Rory: Touhou11 Great!  All we need is yet another conspiracy theory blog  ;)
[11:40] <Touhou11> Rory: I'm not trying to get kicked, just helping people making an informed choice
[11:40] <Ben64> Touhou11: this channel is not #spiritofopensource this is the ubuntu support channel. discussion on that topic is NOT ON TOPIC here. simple as that
[11:40] <DJones> Touhou11: Please move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is only for specific support issues, however I'm sure you'll find people willing to discuss it in the offtopic channel
[11:41] <usr13> Touhou11: ... or, keep your opinions to yourself.
[11:41] <Touhou11> usr13: Telling someone that Ubuntu is adware isn't an opinion, it's a fact
[11:42] <usr13> Touhou11: .... in *your* opinion.
[11:42] <usr13> Touhou11: So, thank you for that, we got it.
[11:47] <layke_> I just run this on installing Ubuntu. I think that's all you need to do to disable the sharing of what you mentioned in the data leaks.. https://fixubuntu.com/
[11:48] <layke_> @ Touhou11
[11:49] <Touhou11> layke_: Thanks for that, a useful site. Shame Canonical tried to suppress the information and issued legal notices to the website owner
[11:49] <layke_> *shrugs*
[11:49] <Ben64> !adlens | Touhou11
[11:49] <Ben64> from ubottu on the official ubuntu channel.... stop fud'ing
[11:49] <Ben64> take it to #ubuntu-offtopic , it really really is not on topic here
[11:50] <layke_> O that is a legitamate channel :)
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: if you dont run Unity shell, you don't get that stuff you know
[11:51] <nzb> how do I find out the name of my mainboard? If it's printed on it, I can't see it because the cpu cooler is in the way. I don't have the box and the manual here either.
[11:51] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: I'm aware of that, I find Unity very slow anyway. I was just assisting others
[11:51] <makara> what was to blame for the Ubuntu Forums being hacked?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: how is ranting 'helping' anyone?
[11:51] <DJones> @bansearch shark
[11:51] <Touhou11> !ot | ActionParsnip
[11:53] <Rory> nzb: sudo dmidecode -t 2
[11:54] <nzb> Rory: thank you
[11:54] <Rory> No problem, glad I could help :)
[11:54] <layke_> What screenshot/printscreen app do you guys use. Looking for something that assists in quickly capturing then uploading to a service. At the moment my workflow on this is slow.. and can take time to manually do it all :)
[11:55] <Rory> layke_: Shutter
[11:55] <layke_> I looked at Shutter Rory, it doesn't seem to save any of my preferences. ie. If I want to use FTP I have to enter my FTP details every single time?
[11:55] <Rory> layke_: You can screenshot windows, sections of the screen, then crop and upload to imgur or whatever
[11:56] <layke_> Or if I want to always upload to imgur, I have to reselect it every time? (I tried googling for Shutter profiles but came up blank.. so started looking for another package..).
[11:57] <Rory> layke_: edit->preferences, then save your settings as a "profile" at the top
[11:57] <h0k3n_th3_bok3n> hi, can anyone tell me how can I determine version of libraries which my binary depends on?
[11:57] <layke_> Rory, Ahh thanks. Can't believe I missed that.
[11:57] <layke_> Rory, Genuinely looked everywhere.
[11:58] <Rory> h0k3n_th3_bok3n: readelf -d a.out | grep NEEDED
[11:58] <Anuska> help, how i see if someone try to connect at my linux remote?
[11:58] <Rory> Anuska: Do you mean through ssh?
[11:58] <Anuska> becouse i get a message: Host x ... try to connect remotly: ALLOW or REFUZED
[11:58] <Rory> Anuska: Where are you seeing that lessage?
[11:59] <h0k3n_th3_bok3n> Rory,  thanks but soname does not contain a version information.
[11:59] <Anuska> in my linux
[11:59] <Rory> Anuska: ...
[11:59] <Rory> Anuska: what file?
[11:59] <Anuska> but i press refuzed...
[11:59] <Anuska> in the screen
[11:59] <Rory> Anuska: Are you running some sort of remote access software?
[12:00] <Anuska> the desktop sharing was actived
[12:00] <Anuska> yes teamviewer
[12:00] <Rory> Anuska: Is it open to the Internet do you know?
[12:00] <h0k3n_th3_bok3n> Rory: "[libconfig.so.8]" this is definitely not a version of the library.
[12:00] <Anuska> ...
[12:00] <Anuska> uf
[12:01] <Rory> Anuska: I'm not sure what your issue is... you get a popup, that is how you see if someone is trying to connect
[12:12] <donc3> Hi all I'm using the last version of ubuntu with gnome 3
[12:12] <jakob____> hi looking to buy some old ibm laptops for some experiments - any ideas for a refurbishment agency?
[12:12] <donc3> and sometines the desktop reboots
[12:12] <b0x> jakob____: ex government
[12:12] <b0x> always a winner
[12:13] <donc3> could somebody help me?? I paste my Xorg.0.log and syslog files
[12:13] <jakob____> a webpage?
[12:13] <b0x> would be in your specific area
[12:13] <jakob____> i am in EE so its not exactly easy
[12:14] <donc3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6529456/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6529459/
[12:15] <jakob____> is there a webpage that can offer that?
[12:15] <jakob____> is there a webpage that can offer that? «b0x»
[12:16] <donc3> could somebody help me with mny problem???
[12:16] <DJones> jakob____: That not really an Ubuntu support issue, you could maybe ask in #ubuntu-offtopic and see if anybody can point you in the right direction
[12:18] <daftykins> donc3: you're trying to load the fglrx driver but it doesn't exist, so it's not been installed properly / generated for the running kernel
[12:18] <donc3> ahh!
[12:18] <donc3> daftykins so what must I do??
[12:19] <daftykins> donc3: well, if you installed the AMD driver, do it right :D
[12:19] <daftykins> !ati
[12:19] <donc3> daftykins no, I haven't installed any fglrx driver
[12:20] <donc3> cause my card is AGP and I'm using an old kernel
[12:20] <daftykins> what's the card?
[12:20] <donc3> ATI 3850 HD AGP
[12:20] <daftykins> it says you're running 3.10.18
[12:20] <daftykins> 0o
[12:21] <usr13> donc3: pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   #Send us resulting URL
[12:22] <donc3> usr13 xorg.conf.failsafe?????
[12:22] <daftykins> looks like the radeon driver is loading and working fine
[12:22] <daftykins> oh you said gnome reboots, no idea what's going on there then
[12:22] <usr13> donc3: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf     #Does it say that the file does not exist?
[12:22] <donc3> yes
[12:23] <usr13> donc3: Ok, just checking.
[12:23] <donc3> I only have xorg.conf.failsafe and xorg.conf.failsafe.backup
[12:23] <sabs> i want to know how i can install server on ubuntu ?
[12:23] <daftykins> sabs: what do you mean by "install server" ?
[12:24] <daftykins> do you mean how do install "ubuntu server" ?
[12:24] <sabs> yup
[12:24] <daftykins> download it :)
[12:24] <donc3> daftykins: yes only gnome, and sometimes the system gets blocked with the screen pixelated and I have to reboot but this only sometimes
[12:25] <daftykins> i have no experience with gnome3
[12:25] <sabs> daftykins i d'ont see the lijnk ?
[12:25] <sabs> link
[12:25] <daftykins> sabs: on ubuntu.com ?
[12:26] <usr13> donc3: Sounds a bit like a hardware issue.
[12:26] <daftykins> sabs: visit ubuntu.com - highlight "Download" on the orange bar at the top, then click on 'Server'
[12:26] <sabs> ok thanx dafykins
[12:26] <donc3> I don't know
[12:26] <donc3> usr13
[12:27] <usr13> donc3: Desktop or Laptop?
[12:27] <donc3> desktop
[12:27] <sabs> so someone can help mee  to get a command of base for administration serveur ?
[12:27] <usr13> donc3: When was the last cleaning / re-greasing
[12:28] <donc3> I don't know! usr13
[12:28] <usr13> donc3: Maybe it is time.
[12:28] <daftykins> sabs: to learn how to use it? no, look up some guides online
[12:29] <sabs> yes i want to learn it .. can you help mee daftykins ?
[12:31] <daftykins> sabs: no, but as i say, find a beginners guide online maybe
[12:32] <sabs> someone can help mee ?
[12:32] <sabs> pleas
[12:33] <daftykins> sabs: if you are unwilling to google for a guide then you will never attain your goals in life
[12:33] <impradeepy> sabs:can you be more specific, like what is your aim etc of using server not edition
[12:34] <impradeepy> server edition
[12:34] <impradeepy> not desktop
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> sabs: how do you mean 'administration server'?
[12:42] <urielvigilant> where i can get a short cut key map to operate  Lubuntu 13.10 almost full on Keyboard ?
[12:44] <zbrkxbr>  hi guys
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> urielvigilant: less ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu.xml     or whatever file is in there, shows keyboard shortcust :)
[12:45] <urielvigilant> another question : Lubuntu 13.10 don  t run on acer wlmy 3003 with 1 Gb Ram, the screen start to switching on and off many time and it never reach to part we choose a full install or a try . . , i tryed booth,  cd and ubunutu usb pen persistent , i also tryed ubuntu 13.10 , it odnt run too on it
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> urielvigilant: if you run:   sudo lshw -C display   what video chip is used and is it 'unclaimed'?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> urielvigilant: according to the web it's a SiS Mirage
[12:47] <urielvigilant> ActionParsnip : i should write that on terminal ? or navigate to that menu and open the file there with calc software  about question keyboard key map )
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> urielvigilant: its a terminal command but you can read the file in Leafpad if you like
[12:48] <urielvigilant> ActionParsnip : about second questions ; i never was wable to reach to a terminal on acer wlmi firend of mine laptop . .  .
[12:49] <impradeepy> just upgraded to 13.04 from 10.04, its very laggy