[00:24] <tsimonq2> jbicha: I had a backport of spectre-meltdown-checker started but not finished in bug 1743334. If you would like to finish it up (since you synced to Bionic today), you're welcome to, just assign the bug to yourself. Otherwise I'll assign the bug to myself tomorrow.
[02:12] <LargePrime> how can i get this package updated https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xflr5
[02:12] <LargePrime> please ping if you reply, i sleep now
[02:12] <LargePrime> a link to a how to help ubuntu keep packages up to date would be great
[02:20] <tsimonq2> LargePrime: Ask Debian.
[02:23] <tsimonq2> LargePrime: https://bugs.debian.org/864588
[05:20] <slangasek> nacc: non-standard xz flag> hmph, who do we blame for that?
[06:40] <lathiat> FYI seems there is a bug in bind9-host on bionic that causes it to hang forever sometimes, which causes avahi-daemon-check-dns.sh to hang forever and cause network connections to hang indefinitely.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/1752411
[07:04] <zyga> re
[07:05] <mvo> sil2100: hey! I was told by zyga that there might be an issue with the ubuntu-image snap (zyga knows the details). are you aware of this?
[07:05] <zyga> mvo, sil2100: the ubuntu-image snap is published to edge and beta and doesn't function (GLIBC things explode)
[07:05] <zyga> if the snap should be used it should be fixed and published to stable
[07:05] <zyga> otherwise I think the channels should be closed
[07:05] <zyga> it's a high-profile item in device maker circles
[07:13] <sil2100> zyga: I think we didn't use stable before, but maybe it's finally time - anyway, I wasn't aware that the current snap is exploding, thanks for letting me know
[07:13] <sil2100> I'll take a look at it
[07:13] <slangasek> sil2100: hum, it's long overdue for it to be on stable IMHO
[07:13] <sil2100> slangasek: yeah
[07:13] <slangasek> sil2100: OTOH we should only push it there if it's actually stable ;)
[07:14] <sil2100> slangasek: well, I think the idea was to publish it to stable once we have 1.0 - and we did, but I guess we forgot ;p
[07:14]  * zyga feels this issue is now in very good and capable hands :)
[07:15] <slangasek> is the glibc issue one that's currently fixable with current snapcraft and classic snaps?
[07:16] <slangasek> I'm not sure if we've gotten the all-clear on that
[08:43] <snikker> hello, i'm compiling kernel usung "make deb-pkg", there is a way to use custom "changelog" and "control" files instead of auto generated?
[10:08] <doko> oSoMoN: re LP: #1034558 why remove, they are synced from Debian. why did you remove the external deps?
[10:10] <oSoMoN> doko, I didn't remove anything, I'm merely suggesting that they could be if we wanted to, there's nothing actually using those
[10:47] <sil2100> mvo, zyga: are the issues with the ubuntu-image snap reported anywhere?
[10:48] <zyga> sil2100: not that I know of
[10:48] <ginggs> tseliot: you have a new PR
[10:49] <sil2100> zyga: I see some issues indeed, e.g. it's busted on artful - but it's been like that since a while, I guess might be good to see if it can get fixed now
[10:49] <sil2100> For xenial it works as expected
[10:49] <sil2100> I was wondering if this was some other issue, or is this it
[10:49]  * sil2100 needs to check on bionic
[10:49] <zyga> sil2100: what was the issue on artful?
[10:49] <zyga> I think you _maybe_ just need a rebuild with new snapcraft
[10:52] <sil2100> zyga: yeah, I guess that's it, it's the glibc issue caused by the old snapcraft IIRC
[10:52] <zyga> sil2100: it looks like the snap was built on bionic
[10:52] <zyga> but I don't understand why it would work on xenial then
[10:54] <sil2100> I'll investigate some more
[11:08] <tseliot> ginggs: yes, I'll have a look at it later, thanks
[11:09] <ginggs> tseliot: thanks - i checked and it wasn't in the 384 packaging, so must have crept in during the switch to the new packaging in 390
[11:21] <doko> please pickup your ftbfs here ... http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/rebuilds/test-rebuild-20180408-bionic.html
[12:57] <LargePrime> tsimonq2, how hard is it to maintain a package?
[12:57] <LtWorf_> LargePrime: maintaining chromium is slightly harder than maintaining nyancat
[12:58] <LtWorf_> (i mean that it all depends on how hards is the content of the package itself)
[12:58] <LargePrime> LtWorf_, it would be this https://bugs.debian.org/864588
[12:59] <LargePrime> not hard i think.  but no experience in the domain
[12:59] <LargePrime> have you any advice for me?
[13:01] <LtWorf_> LargePrime: i think #debian-mentors on oftc is a better channel to ask this stuff
[15:00] <sil2100> !dmb-ping
[15:21] <tsimonq2> LargePrime: Not *terribly* hard if you RTFM. :P
[15:29] <nacc_> slangasek: not sure, i need to verify it's true, and then see .. i've filed a few bugs in debian re: non-reproducible tarballs before
[15:30] <nacc_> slangasek: none of them have received any response, which makes me feel like pristine-tar is not maintained (i mentioned this to you before, i think)
[15:36] <nacc_> slangasek: and it's also something i struggled to debug effectively, but I believe I should be able to without git-ubuntu ... i'll do that today
[16:25] <seb128> cyphermox, hey, was bug 1754422 good to go after security +1?
[17:25] <nacc> slangasek: i'm still wading into this, but it does appear to be reproducible with just pristine-tar in a Git repo. Also this article https://www.nongnu.org/lzip/xz_inadequate.html
[17:26] <slangasek> heh
[17:26] <nacc> slangasek: i believe (and this might be true for other formats, just no flags are used there), it's not always possible to know what xz was used to compress something
[17:26] <nacc> slangasek: and what flags, maybe, more particularly
[17:26] <slangasek> nacc: sure; it just seems so unlikely that an Ubuntu dev would be using arbitrary xz flags when building this orig.tar.xz?
[17:27] <slangasek> it appears juliank did the cryptsetup upload in question
[17:28] <slangasek> juliank: ^^ how did you acquire the orig.tar.xz for that upload? did it come from upstream or did you create it?
[17:28] <nacc> slangasek: oh no i meant the upstream did
[17:28] <nacc> slangasek: it's what is published upstream (i've verified that now )
[17:28] <slangasek> ah
[17:28] <nacc> slangasek: but i believe pristine-tar has to be able to call xz in the same way upstream does in order to verify it did the right thing
[17:28] <nacc> slangasek: and it's not always going to be able to (again, this is still just my rough understanding)
[17:29]  * slangasek nods
[17:30] <nacc> we obviously could decompress and recompress xz as something else in order to reproduce it, but it's really not a big deal (imo) yet
[17:30] <nacc> pristine-tar support in git-ubuntu is best effort on import
[17:30] <nacc> we can always fallback to Launchpad (and I think I have an algorithm for your merge case now)
[18:01] <nacc> slangasek: i've asked upstream how they generate the tarball, as even the manual try-all-known options path in pristine-xz fails: https://gitlab.com/cryptsetup/cryptsetup/issues/374
[18:04] <coreycb> RAOF: hi, if you have a chance during your Tues SRU rotation, would you be able to take a look at promoting neutron to artful-proposed and possibly reviewing the neutron versions in the xenial and artful queues?
[18:15] <slangasek> coreycb: none of the Monday rotaters available?  (infinity)
[18:18] <coreycb> slangasek: possibly. i like to add a little buffer time to my asks to account for timezones, shock, etc. :)
[18:48] <andyrock> slangasek: hey hey
[18:48] <andyrock> slangasek: I didn't see your ping earlier this morning
[18:50] <andyrock> slangasek: I guess the only problem would be if you've software-properties-dbus installed and not snapd-glib
[18:50] <andyrock> slangasek: maybe we can move that dependency there
[18:50] <andyrock> for the others I'm pretty sure there will be no problem
[19:13] <slangasek> andyrock: ok great, thanks - I'll sponsor the upload now
[19:14] <andyrock> slangasek: I moved snapd back to common
[19:14] <andyrock> how can I check if it is going to create problems in the server image?
[19:15] <slangasek> andyrock: launch a default lxd instance; install updated versions of software-properties-common + python3-software-properties; confirm that add-apt-repository doesn't bail
[19:17] <slangasek> andyrock: so if we have to still depend on gir1.2-snapd-1, that's very specifically the one that is causing the image bloat
[19:17] <slangasek> andyrock: because glib1.2-snapd-1 -> libsnapd-glib1 > libsoup2.4-1 > glib-networking
[19:17] <slangasek> since we don't use it in the "common" case, it would be good to figure out how to avoid that dependency
[19:17] <andyrock> mmm one thing that we can do is to not make it a depedency
[19:18] <andyrock> than we can move the "from gi.repository import snapd" inside a try
[19:18] <andyrock> the rest of the code is not going to be called
[19:18] <slangasek> yes, that would also be fine from my POV
[19:18] <andyrock> so it should not create any problems
[19:19] <nacc> slangasek: ah, pristine-tar 1.42 has added a -r flag
[19:20] <slangasek> nacc: short for --really-pristine?
[19:20] <nacc> slangasek: --recompress
[19:21] <slangasek> ok
[19:21] <nacc> slangasek: which allows for recompressing a reproducible tarball
[19:21] <slangasek> --right-this-time-we-mean-it
[19:21] <nacc> yeah :)
[19:21] <nacc> i think it will guarnatee the .tar is the same, even if hte .tar.xz is not ... which is still not ideal
[19:21] <nacc> i'm not sure we want git-ubuntu to do that, as it will lead to weird issues
[19:28] <andyrock> slangasek: https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/software-properties/fix-1762082/+merge/342854
[19:30] <jbicha> slangasek: can you let my DMB email through the u-devel-announce moderation queue? LP: #1762516
[19:47] <slangasek> jbicha: done
[19:50] <slangasek> andyrock: thanks, uploading
[22:01] <joelkraehemann> hi all
[22:01] <joelkraehemann> how is the freeze?
[22:02] <joelkraehemann> Since I just discovered a flaw in GSequencer
[22:02] <joelkraehemann> http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/commit/?h=1.4.x&id=07f18a82b7df829a6969e88f86848e676d888fd4
[22:02] <joelkraehemann> I just build the new tarball
[22:03] <nacc> joelkraehemann: bugfixes are allowed
[22:03] <joelkraehemann> it is a bugfix
[22:03] <nacc> joelkraehemann: ok, file a bug?
[22:03] <joelkraehemann> I am upstream
[22:03] <joelkraehemann> should I do it anyway?
[22:03] <nacc> joelkraehemann: an ubuntu bug, i mean
[22:03] <joelkraehemann> great
[22:04] <nacc> joelkraehemann: file a bug, provide a debdiff, ifyou can
[22:04] <nacc> joelkraehemann: it'll go into the sponsorship queue -- i can probably take a look if you ping me :)
[22:05] <joelkraehemann> thank you
[22:09] <joelkraehemann> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsequencer/+bug/1762564
[22:10] <joelkraehemann> nacc: the debdiff takes some time because I just run the test-suite
[22:10] <nacc> joelkraehemann: sure
[23:22] <joelkraehemann> nacc: ping
[23:23] <joelkraehemann> FYI, there is a new upstream tarball available
[23:23] <joelkraehemann> it contains 2 other fixes but are less important
[23:24] <sarnold> nacc will probably want all the changes in a new tarball documented in the bug
[23:25] <joelkraehemann> sarnold: Ok, I do so
[23:25] <sarnold> joelkraehemann: thanks :)
[23:25] <joelkraehemann> sarnold, well there was 1 symbol not exported
[23:29] <joelkraehemann> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsequencer/+bug/1762576
[23:31] <joelkraehemann> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsequencer/+bug/1762578
[23:43] <joelkraehemann> nacc: all patches provided


[00:01] <ubotu> New bug: #189435 in mpd (universe) "Please merge mpd 0.13.1-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189435
[00:29] <bdmurray> pochu: do you know where bug 134749 might lie?
[00:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134749 in notification-daemon "Notification baloon tooltip appears in wrong place" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134749
[00:30] <ubotu> New bug: #189444 in virtualbox-ose (universe) "virtualbox-ose-client-utils service fails to start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189444
[00:31] <pochu> bdmurray: I don't have a clue, sorry.
[00:32] <ubotu> New bug: #189439 in transmission (main) "Transmission should use a temp-dir to exclude from indexing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189439
[00:32] <ubotu> New bug: #189440 in gconf-editor (main) "Please merge gconf-editor 2.20.0-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189440
[00:32] <ubotu> New bug: #189442 in ubuntu "update-manager -d cannot finish upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189442
[00:32] <bdmurray> pochu: okay, I'm not certain if it is application specific or something about the notification-daemon
[00:36] <ubotu> New bug: #189445 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gnome-power-manager fails to show logout dialog" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189445
[00:36] <ubotu> New bug: #189446 in konversation (main) "nickserv login occurs after channel join. this can cause problems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189446
[00:55] <ubotu> New bug: #189448 in gnome-games (main) "Nibbles is buggy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189448
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #189449 in thunderbird (main) "I just can't send emails with attached files." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189449
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #189452 in libgnomecups (main) "Please merge libgnomecups 0.2.3-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189452
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #189453 in libdb4.6-ruby (universe) "Threaded transactions broken with libdb4.6" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189453
[01:36] <ubotu> New bug: #189454 in update-manager (main) "distribution upgrade tool reports "kb/s" but is measuring "kB/s"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189454
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #189455 in gparted (main) "gparted volume-size overflows and cripples UI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189455
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #189456 in ubuntu "Umbutu 7.10 manual flash player 9 install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189456
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #189457 in maildrop (universe) "maildrop error loading shared libraries" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189457
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #189458 in hotkey-setup (main) "multimedia / Fn Keys don't work on Toshiba Satellite M115-S3094 laptop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189458
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #189459 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "Please merge meta-gnome <IP_ADDRESS> (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189459
[02:21] <XiXaQ> What does the state "Triaged" mean on launchpad?
[02:21] <ubotu> New bug: #189461 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 183685)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189461
[02:22] <RAOF> XiXaQ: "In a state where it's worth a developer's time to look at it".  That is: it's definitely a bug, and it's got all the information a dev is likely to need to fix it.
[02:22] <XiXaQ> ok.. Heh, then what does "Confirmed" mean?
[02:23] <RAOF> "It's a bug"
[02:23] <XiXaQ> oh, so Triaged is better than Confirmed then?
[02:23] <RAOF> Yes.
[02:24] <alex_mayorga> RAOF, hi, my first hug day, what to do?
[02:24] <RAOF> alex_mayorga: Uuum... :)
[02:24] <alex_mayorga> noob here, sorry :(
[02:25] <pochu> alex_mayorga: hug him!
[02:25]  * pochu hugs everyone and goes to bed :)
[02:25] <RAOF> alex_mayorga: Oh, that's no problem.  I'm just unsure as to what the correct answer is.
[02:25] <alex_mayorga> pochu, nittes
[02:25] <RAOF> alex_mayorga: But I'd suggest the first URL in the /topic as a start :)
[02:28] <alex_mayorga> Is there any way to filter the list for Hardy? It's what I have at my disposal
[02:31] <alex_mayorga> RAOF, OK, looks like I've found a dupe here bug 187686 seems a duplicate of bug 187969
[02:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 187686 in ubuntu "Keyboard Indicator at the Panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187686
[02:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 187969 in gnome-control-center "Cannot select default keyboard layout in gnome-keyboard-properties" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187969
[02:34] <alex_mayorga> do I mark it duplicate right away or do I ask the user?
[02:36] <RAOF> alex_mayorga: Depends on how sure you are.  There's no need to ask the user if it's obvious.
[02:36] <alex_mayorga> I'll mark it and ask the user for more user in any case
[02:36] <ubotu> New bug: #189462 in slocate (main) "slocate cron job fails if /etc/updatedb.conf not found" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189462
[02:42] <alex_mayorga> RAOF, OK I've added comment and marked as duplicate, what else should I do?
[02:44] <RAOF> alex_mayorga: That seems about it, really.
[02:44] <alex_mayorga> let me make the row lightgreen too, BTW I'm getting bitten by that same bugger
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #189463 in ferret (universe) "ferret description" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189463
[03:06] <alex_mayorga> what to do to bugs not tracked in launchpad? is there a canned response?
[03:07] <RAOF> alex_mayorga: What do you mean by "bugs not tracked in launchpad"?  Do you mean bugs reported in launchpad for packages that aren't the Ubuntu version?
[03:08] <ubotu> New bug: #189464 in ubuntu "Please sync gnome-keyring-sharp 1.0.0~svn.r87622-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189464
[03:08] <alex_mayorga> Bug #187331
[03:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 187331 in ubuntu "Can't rip CDs with gstreamer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187331
[03:09] <alex_mayorga> the user claims the bug is in gstreamer, but when I try to assign it to that project launchpad tells me "GStreamer doesn't use Launchpad as its bug tracker. Without a bug URL to watch, the GStreamer status will not update automatically."
[03:10] <RAOF> alex_mayorga: Right.  That's because "gstreamer" isn't a package.
[03:10] <RAOF> alex_mayorga: Also, he's wrong.  The problem isn't with gstreamer, it's with rhythmbox/sound juicer.
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #189465 in ubuntu-dev-tools (universe) "requestsync crashed with AssertionError in parse()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189465
[03:10] <RAOF> And there go my two bugs :)
[03:10] <alex_mayorga> ??
[03:11] <alex_mayorga> the last 2 are yours?
[03:11] <RAOF> Yup.
[03:12] <alex_mayorga> same story for rhythmbox :S not tracked by launchpad? do I add it anyway?
[03:16] <alex_mayorga> RAOF, why don't you teach me by example :) Bug #187331
[03:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 187331 in ubuntu "Can't rip CDs with gstreamer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187331
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #189469 in ccontrol (universe) "[sync request] ccontrol 0.9.1+20071204-2 [Debian Main - Testing]" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189469
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #189470 in iceowl (universe) "Restore Mozilla branding and blacklist iceowl from autosync" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189470
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #189471 in audacious-plugins (universe) "Audacious does not play .wma files when extended unicode characters exist in the filename or the path" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189471
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #189473 in rhythmbox (main) "Paused audio plays during exit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189473
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #189474 in ubuntu "cdebootstrap does not install upstart, udev, system-services..." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189474
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #189475 in xaos (main) "xaos doesn't work as screensaver as it doesn't take "window-id" option" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189475
[04:39] <greg-g> how do you link a blueprint to a bug?  ie: bug 186557
[04:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 186557 in friendly-recovery "ubuntu repair nightmare." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186557
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #189476 in ubuntu "Broadcom 4311 wireless not working in Compaq F572" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189476
[04:41] <bdmurray> greg-g: What do you mean by link?
[04:44] <greg-g> bdmurray: I thought some bugs had a link to the bluepint as a part of them, not just a comment.  I could be wrong.
[04:45] <greg-g> "associated with" maybe is one way to put it
[04:45] <greg-g> I'm thinking for that bug, I am just going to mark it confirmed/wishlist and leave it be.
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #189477 in xaos (main) "Take xaos files out of app-default files " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189477
[04:47] <greg-g> bdmurray: mainly I am just making sure there is nothing else needing to be done with respect to bugs like that (relating to a blueprint).
[04:48] <bdmurray> greg-g: okay, there isn't a way to associate bugs with blueprints
[04:49] <greg-g> bdmurray: ok, thanks.  Sorry I wans't clear at first with what I was trying to accomplish ;)
[04:49] <bdmurray> I wonder what they did though to restore grub.
[04:50] <ubotu> New bug: #189478 in bzr (main) "man page has errors when typing "man bzr"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189478
[04:51] <greg-g> bdmurray: it is a two part bug report pretty much.  1) need a way to more friendly restore/rescue a system and 2) help get my grub back.
[04:52] <bdmurray> yeah regardless of what they did it - it is too hard to restore it
[04:52] <greg-g> should I ask if they have resolved their issue, and if not tell them to open an issue in the support tracker?
[04:55] <bdmurray> That sounds best as there is unlikely to be a bug with grub-install.
[04:56] <greg-g> right
[04:56] <bdmurray> hmm
[04:57] <bdmurray> I think the alternate CD has a rescue mode from which you can reinstall grub but they do seem to mention the Live CD.
[04:58] <bdmurray> They probably would have been better off using the alternate.
[05:00] <greg-g> So, should I mark that bug Confirmed/Wishlist as if it was just asking for the friendly-recovery bit, or should I mark it invalid and tell him to ask a question in the support tracker if it is not fixed yet?
[05:03] <bdmurray> I'd Incomplete and wishlist it and ask if they have worked around the lack of a friendly recovery utility
[05:04] <greg-g> sounds good
[05:05] <bdmurray> thanks!
[05:07] <greg-g> thank you for answering my questions
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #189479 in wordpress (universe) "wordpress: security flaw in xml-rpc implementation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189479
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #189481 in wordpress (universe) "Please merge wordpress 2.3.3-1 (universe) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189481
[05:41] <ubotu> New bug: #189484 in ubuntu "installer/uninstaller/updater problem  ubuntu 804" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189484
[05:54] <greg-g> 19 bugs later, and its time for bed
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #189485 in nautilus (main) "[hardy] nautilus crashes/restarts when refreshing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189485
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #189467 in update-manager (main) "Update uninstaller installer problem ubuntu 804" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189467
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #189486 in update-manager-core (main) "one of the adept upgrades failed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189486
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #189487 in ubuntu "thumbnails are not generated for all flv files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189487
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #189488 in ubuntu "Desktop never loads without ethernet cable pluged in." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189488
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #189490 in gnome-app-install (main) "gnome-app-install crashed with AttributeError in modifyUserInterface()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189490
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #189491 in nautilus (main) "[hardy] nautilus crashes with undefined symbol:nautilus_file_info_get_drive " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189491
[07:01] <ubotu> New bug: #189493 in update-manager (main) "update-manager crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_keymap_get_direction()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189493
[07:13] <ubotu> New bug: #189494 in gedit (main) "gedit crashed when I saved" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189494
[07:37] <ubotu> New bug: #189496 in ubuntu "Brightness control doesnt work (Vaio)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189496
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #189498 in webkit (universe) "Please sync webkit 0~svn29752-1 from Debian experimental (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189498
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #189500 in kdebase-workspace (universe) "erorr in /etc/init.d/kdm-kde4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189500
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #189501 in kdebase-workspace (universe) "KWin compositing not working in 4.0.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189501
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #189502 in ubuntu "Packaging request for Columbia Esterel Compiler" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189502
[08:34] <ubotu> New bug: #189504 in net-snmp (main) "snmpd eats memory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189504
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #189505 in ubuntu "Mathematica 5.0 Linux version can not be installed in Ubuntu 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189505
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #189506 in gphoto2 (universe) "Normal user can't access USB camera Error (-53: 'Could not claim the USB device')" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189506
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #189507 in glibc (main) "libc6-i386 looks in a wrong place for locales" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189507
[09:19] <Iulian> Good morning.
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #189508 in gnome-print (universe) "create printers with different settings for same printer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189508
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #189509 in gnome-control-center (main) "Desktop Appearances Properties crashes repeatedly - gnome-appearance-properties crashed with SIGSEGV in XSetCloseDownMode()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189509
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #189510 in cupsys (main) "cups dying when idle" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189510
[09:49] <ubotu> New bug: #189514 in nautilus (main) "[Hardy Alpha3] Auto mount points of disk partitions changing with each boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189514
[09:53] <ubotu> New bug: #189515 in gcalcli (universe) "No international times" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189515
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #189517 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "Open/save file dialog places wrong" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189517
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #189518 in valknut (universe) "Valknut should use system Qt theme and font by default" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189518
[10:22] <ubotu> New bug: #189519 in firefox (main) "Using Ubuntu 7.04 on ppc (powerbook G4) firefox(<IP_ADDRESS>) crashes as if playing "pixel minesweeper"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189519
[10:22] <ubotu> New bug: #189520 in tracker (main) "tracker makes system un usable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189520
[10:38] <ubotu> New bug: #189521 in ubuntu "Update to linux-image  2.6.22-14.51 broke sound drivers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189521
[10:38] <ubotu> New bug: #189523 in ltsp (main) "unable to update kernel inside ltsp image" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189523
[10:58] <ubotu> New bug: #189525 in kdebase (main) "Problem with Konqueror and "Load plugins on demand" feature" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189525
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #189526 in tk8.5 (universe) "Please sync tk8.5 8.5.0-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189526
[11:12] <ubotu> New bug: #189528 in epiphany-browser (main) "epiphany does not save passwords anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189528
[11:12] <ubotu> New bug: #189529 in console-setup (main) "dot keypad for french keyboard not working in gutsy console" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189529
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #189524 in apt-setup "Repositories are not added when installing offline" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189524
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #189530 in hugin (universe) "hugin reduces panorama size each time preferences are saved" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189530
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #189532 in vmware-player "[Hardy] vmware-player fails to start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189532
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #189533 in boinc-app-seti (universe) "setiathome_enhanced crashed with SIGSEGV in vfprintf()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189533
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #189536 in nautilus (main) "No preview for images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189536
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #189537 in nautilus (main) "Change file icon action opens file chooser far from icons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189537
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #189538 in db2exc-amd64 (partner) "db2 update to version 9.5 crashes existing installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189538
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #189443 in gnome-vfs (main) "gnome-vfs-daemon crashed with signal 5 in gnome_vfs_volume_unset_drive_private()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189443
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #189540 in nautilus (main) "Drive rename and change icon operations always fail in Nautilus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189540
[12:02] <ubotu> New bug: #189441 in gst-plugins-base0.10 "totem-gstreamer-video-thumbnailer crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_notify()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189441
[12:02] <ubotu> New bug: #189541 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus will not open directories" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189541
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #189544 in vlc (universe) "streaming h264 is broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189544
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #189546 in system-config-printer-kde (main) "[hardy] system-config-printer-kde just doesn`t work." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189546
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #189547 in bacula (universe) "update package bacula" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189547
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #189548 in siege (main) "[hardy] Add automake1.9 to Build-Depends (fixes FTBFS)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189548
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #189549 in soundconverter (universe) "SoundConverter missing dependency" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189549
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #189550 in pidgin (main) "Loging in notification in IRC" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189550
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #189551 in openldap2.2 (main) "slapd cannot start with syncrepl" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189551
[12:51] <ubotu> New bug: #189553 in jabref (multiverse) "crash on startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189553
[12:51] <ubotu> New bug: #189554 in courier (universe) "update from gutsy to hurdy fails on courier-mta" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189554
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #189557 in update-manager (main) "package update-manager 1:0.87.4 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189557
[12:57] <ubotu> New bug: #189556 in ubuntu "Screen brightness is lowered although set to not in gnome preferences (HP Compaq 6710b)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189556
[13:00] <ubotu> New bug: #189558 in libtelepathy (universe) "Please sync libtelepathy 0.3.2-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189558
[13:00] <ubotu> New bug: #189559 in telepathy-glib (universe) "Please sync telepathy-glib 0.7.1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189559
[13:01] <ubotu> New bug: #189412 in gnome-vfs (main) "gnome-vfs-daemon crashed with signal 5 in gnome_vfs_volume_unset_drive_private()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189412
[13:05] <ubotu> New bug: #189560 in linux (main) "please enable IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER and IP_MULTIPLE_TABLES in sparc, hppa" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189560
[13:10] <ubotu> New bug: #189360 in xchat-gnome "xchat-gnome crashed with SIGSEGV in IA__g_object_ref()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189360
[13:15] <ubotu> New bug: #189561 in nautilus (main) "[Hardy] Nautilus crash during Google-Earth installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189561
[13:15] <ubotu> New bug: #189562 in update-manager (main) "running partial upgrade could not calculate the update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189562
[13:26] <ubotu> New bug: #189563 in kde-systemsettings (main) "help is missing and you cannot save settings in hardy herron" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189563
[13:26] <ubotu> New bug: #189565 in ufw (universe) "ufw enables syncookies by default, which is not considered a great idea" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189565
[13:31] <ubotu> New bug: #189566 in dpkg (main) "Please merge dpkg (<IP_ADDRESS>) from debian unstable" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189566
[13:31] <ubotu> New bug: #189568 in gnome-terminal (main) "Please sponsor gnome-terminal 2.21.90-0ubuntu2 (main) into Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189568
[13:32] <persia> jwendell: You see, people here actually look at all the bugs, and tend to compile those that everyone reports into metabugs with workarounds in teh comments :)
[13:35] <ubotu> New bug: #189569 in claws-mail (universe) "Left pane unscrollable in Claws Mail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189569
[13:41] <ubotu> New bug: #189570 in nspluginwrapper (multiverse) "npviewer.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_newv() (dup-of: 178038)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189570
[14:06] <ubotu> New bug: #189571 in ubuntu "needs packaging: RippedWire" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189571
[14:11] <ubotu> New bug: #189573 in evolution-exchange (main) "Evolution lost connection with Exchange backend process" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189573
[14:11] <ubotu> New bug: #189574 in totem (main) "totem-gstreamer crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_set_valist()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189574
[14:16] <ubotu> New bug: #179468 in system-config-printer (main) "applet.py crashed with TypeError in on_job_hold_activate()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179468
[14:16] <ubotu> New bug: #189575 in vlc (universe) "vlc crashed with SIGSEGV in __stats_Update()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189575
[14:21] <ubotu> New bug: #188017 in brasero (main) "brasero crashed with signal 5" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188017
[14:25] <ubotu> New bug: #189576 in gnome-panel (main) "Some errors reported about gnome to me, but I had not rekognize anything." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189576
[14:26] <bddebian> Boo
[14:35] <ubotu> New bug: #189577 in file-roller (main) ".deb are opened instead of installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189577
[14:51] <ubotu> New bug: #189581 in alsa-driver (main) "Please update Alsa to v1.0.16 final." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189581
[14:51] <ubotu> New bug: #189582 in ltsp (main) "ldminfo should be tunneled in ssh" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189582
[14:51] <ubotu> New bug: #189583 in linux-source-2.6.22 "update linux-headers-2.6.22-14, grub error 22" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189583
[15:05] <ubotu> New bug: #189589 in xen-3.2 (main) "Please remove from main." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189589
[15:16] <ubotu> New bug: #189593 in casper (main) "booting live system from nfs fails at nfsmount" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189593
[15:17] <ubotu> New bug: #187435 in openoffice.org (main) "open office 2.3, spell checker in spanish" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187435
[15:21] <ubotu> New bug: #189594 in kdebase (main) "KDM login screen freezes when incorrect password is entered" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189594
[15:27] <joerlend_> "Nominated for Hardy", it sais for a bug. What does that mean?
[15:28] <andrea-bs> joerlend_: that the bug will be fixed in Ubuntu Hardy, but *perhaps* not in other versions
[15:36] <ubotu> New bug: #189598 in mixxx "Mixxx is missing icon (Hardy)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189598
[15:37] <persia> Rather that someone thinks it should be fixed in hardy, but perhaps not other versions.  When it says "Nominated", that means the task is not yet approved for fixing in hardy.
[15:37] <persia> (the barrier for approval is usually someone being willing to fix it, or someone believing that hardy should not be released until it is fixed)
[15:41] <ubotu> New bug: #189599 in xorg (main) "[Hardy] Ubuntu does not remember the screen resolution" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189599
[15:41] <ubotu> New bug: #189600 in kdebase-kde4 (universe) "Cannot enter web address to associate w/ specific browser from Konqueror's "Browser Identification" tab" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189600
[15:50] <ubotu> New bug: #189601 in elmo (universe) "Please sync elmo 1.3.0-1.2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189601
[15:50] <ubotu> New bug: #189602 in lucene2 (multiverse) "Use local DTD to fix build failure on buildd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189602
[15:50] <ubotu> New bug: #189603 in crystalcursors (universe) "Please sync crystalcursors 1.1.1-9 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189603
[15:55] <ubotu> New bug: #189606 in kdebase-workspace (universe) "Removed KDE 4.0 desktop icons return after reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189606
[16:12] <ubotu> New bug: #189607 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crashes after some time playing, backtrace available (dup-of: 182097)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189607
[16:12] <ubotu> New bug: #189608 in flickrfs (universe) "Please sync flickrfs <IP_ADDRESS>-7 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189608
[16:13] <ubotu> New bug: #188884 in tinyerp-client (universe) "tinyerp-client.py crashed with TypeError in <module>()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188884
[16:16] <ubotu> New bug: #146466 in tinyerp-client (universe) "tinyerp-client.py crashed with KeyError in __init__()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146466
[16:16] <ubotu> New bug: #189609 in transmission (main) "transmission crashed with SIGSEGV (pressing close on preferences)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189609
[16:21] <ubotu> New bug: #189610 in gretl (universe) "Please sync gretl 1.7.1-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189610
[16:31] <ubotu> New bug: #189613 in ubuntu "Please sync netcat-openbsd 1.89-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189613
[16:42] <ubotu> New bug: #189614 in kdenlive (universe) "0.5.svn20071228-0.0ubuntu1 fails to build on most architectures" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189614
[16:42] <ubotu> New bug: #189615 in libflashsupport (universe) "no sound in flash-nonfree plugin via pulseaudio - Cannot open shared library /usr/lib32/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189615
[16:51] <ubotu> New bug: #176289 in gutsy-backports "backport netbeans 6.0 (dup-of: 187708)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176289
[16:51] <ubotu> New bug: #189618 in nautilus (main) "trash with files shown empty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189618
[16:51] <ubotu> New bug: #189619 in compiz (main) "Window tooltips in compiz are not translated to polish" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189619
[16:51] <ubotu> New bug: #189620 in update-manager (main) "policykit integration missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189620
[16:51] <ubotu> New bug: #189621 in linux-meta (main) "v86d missing, needed for uvesafb" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189621
[16:51] <ubotu> New bug: #189622 in ubuntu "User switcher tooltip is not translated to polish" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189622
[16:51] <ubotu> New bug: #189623 in tenshi (universe) "tenshi fails to start on boot - needs /var/run/tenshi" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189623
[16:52] <ubotu> New bug: #189616 in dovecot (main) "connection problems under load with hardy dovecot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189616
[16:52] <ubotu> New bug: #189617 in gdebi (main) "policykit integration missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189617
[16:56] <ubotu> New bug: #189624 in kdegraphics-kde4 (universe) "okular print dialog improvements" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189624
[16:56] <ubotu> New bug: #189625 in ubuntu "[hardy] Keyboard automically set to QWERTY after each login" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189625
[17:01] <ubotu> New bug: #189626 in apt (main) "apt-get crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189626
[17:01] <ubotu> New bug: #189629 in update-manager (main) "apt update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189629
[17:01] <ubotu> New bug: #189633 in gnome-mount (main) "Coming out of hibernation mode on 8.04a4 and inserting a SD card more or less simultaneously (dup-of: 122673)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189633
[17:05] <ubotu> New bug: #189634 in language-support-de (main) "Language de_DE does not exist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189634
[17:05] <ubotu> New bug: #189635 in evolution (main) "Attachment Saving Trouble" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189635
[17:10] <ubotu> New bug: #189637 in update-manager (main) "upgrading gutsy to Hardy fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189637
[17:28] <ubotu> New bug: #189639 in ubuntu-meta (main) "Xorg broken in 6.06 on PowerEdge 2950" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189639
[17:41] <ubotu> New bug: #189645 in system-config-printer (main) "the driver selected for the printer canon mp160 do not work." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189645
[17:42] <ubotu> New bug: #189643 in openoffice.org (main) "Backspace and Delete keys have the wrong functionality in OO calc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189643
[17:42] <ubotu> New bug: #189644 in compiz (main) "Compiz freezes on window resize" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189644
[17:42] <ubotu> New bug: #189647 in ubuntu "8.04: Support for TrueCrypt *at install time* for all flavors of *buntu (dup-of: 109701)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189647
[17:43] <ubotu> New bug: #189641 in debian-installer (main) "Installer doesn´t detect virtual ethernet device on ppc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189641
[17:43] <ubotu> New bug: #189648 in imlib (universe) "Please sync imlib 1.9.15-6 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189648
[18:12] <ubotu> New bug: #189655 in evolution-data-server (main) "evolution-data-server-2.22 crashed with signal 5 (dup-of: 183421)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189655
[18:12] <ubotu> New bug: #189660 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crashes in libsoup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189660
[18:13] <ubotu> New bug: #189652 in hal (main) "Low sound on Hp Pavillion dv5000" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189652
[18:13] <ubotu> New bug: #189653 in network-manager (main) "[Hardy] Network Settings silently crashes when saving location" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189653
[18:16] <ubotu> New bug: #189650 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus does not show previews or images" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189650
[18:16] <ubotu> New bug: #189657 in evolution-data-server (main) "evolution-data-server-2.22 crashed with signal 5 (dup-of: 183421)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189657
[18:16] <ubotu> New bug: #189663 in pyalsaaudio (universe) "setperiodsize does not work in python-alsaaudio" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189663
[18:26] <ubotu> New bug: #189649 in evince (main) "Evince: highligted accented characters wrongly displayed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189649
[18:27] <ubotu> New bug: #189665 in links2 (universe) "No icon in gnome-menu of links2  2.1pre32-1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189665
[18:31] <ubotu> New bug: #189666 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Intel iwl4965 microcode not included in rt restricted modules" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189666
[18:32] <ubotu> New bug: #189667 in mnemosyne (universe) "Mnemosyne has unmet dependency" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189667
[18:32] <ubotu> New bug: #189668 in ubuntu "Audio files must be opened by totem by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189668
[18:32] <ubotu> New bug: #189669 in ubuntu "Gutsy 7.10 locks up when playing sound" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189669
[18:36] <ubotu> New bug: #189671 in ubuntu "install failed after boot.  Tried 6.06, 7.04, and 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189671
[18:52] <ubotu> New bug: #189674 in ubuntu "The screen is in a circle form." [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189674
[18:52] <ubotu> New bug: #189675 in marble (universe) "new upstream release for marble 0.5.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189675
[19:02] <ubotu> New bug: #189651 in gnome-system-tools (main) "network-admin applet does not allow setting "wireless-keymode" variable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189651
[19:02] <ubotu> New bug: #189656 in gnome-terminal "gnome-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189656
[19:02] <ubotu> New bug: #189662 in evolution (main) "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189662
[19:02] <ubotu> New bug: #189676 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 183685)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189676
[19:16] <ubotu> New bug: #189672 in ubuntu "Test Bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189672
[19:32] <korgman> hello
[19:32] <korgman> I have one query about a "bug" report
[19:34] <Pici> Which bug?
[19:34] <korgman> I installed teamspeak client
[19:35] <korgman> and I can listen to any other sound program.
[19:35] <korgman> The solution is simple
[19:35] <korgman> to install alsa-oss and start teamspeak as "aoss teamspeak".
[19:35] <korgman> I was wondering if is good to report it as "bug"
[19:39] <korgman> ...
[19:43] <ubotu> New bug: #189681 in compiz (main) ""The window X is not responding" is not translated into polish" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189681
[19:43] <ubotu> New bug: #189687 in ubuntu "Ubuntu should get a real mount / fstab / mtab GUI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189687
[19:43] <ubotu> New bug: #189688 in 4digits (universe) "Please sync 4digits 0.8-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189688
[19:45] <ubotu> New bug: #189686 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox crashed at the opening (dup-of: 164062)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189686
[19:46] <ubotu> New bug: #189689 in ubuntu "jockey-gtk vs. "Driver Setup" vs. "Hardware drivers" naming" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189689
[19:47] <ubotu> New bug: #187815 in gimp (main) "gimp-2.4 crashed with SIGSEGV in strchr() (dup-of: 189494)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187815
[19:47] <ubotu> New bug: #189072 in gthumb (main) "gthumb crashed with SIGSEGV in strchr() (dup-of: 189494)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189072
[19:51] <ubotu> New bug: #189690 in mesa (main) "libGLw.so is not provided by a package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189690
[20:00] <Iulian> pedro_: ping
[20:01] <pedro_> Iulian: yes?
[20:01] <Iulian> pedro_: Hi there. I couldn't reproduce bug 189577 with the same version too. Do you have any clue about this? And I don't think that it's a theme problem, that's a different bug.
[20:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 189577 in file-roller ".deb are opened instead of installed" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189577
[20:02] <Iulian> Also tried with that deb package downloaded from truecrypt.org
[20:02] <Iulian> It's working fine here.
[20:03] <pedro_> yes, that's probably something broken on his account
[20:04] <pedro_> Iulian: what's the output of gvfs-info file.deb  |grep content
[20:04] <pedro_> on your machine?
[20:05] <Iulian> pedro_: Wait a sec
[20:06] <Iulian> pedro_: I don't have that package installed.
[20:07] <pedro_> which package?
[20:07] <pedro_> file.deb? i was referring to which ever .deb package
[20:07] <Iulian> gvfs-info
[20:08] <pedro_> it's available on gvfs-bin
[20:08] <Iulian> Oh yes, let me install gvfs-bin
[20:08] <pedro_> install that package and you'll have that utility
[20:08] <pedro_> cool
[20:10] <Iulian>   standard::content-type: application/x-deb
[20:10] <Iulian>   standard::fast-content-type: application/x-deb
[20:10] <Iulian> That's what I get.
[20:10] <pedro_> Iulian: cool, thanks so it's detecting fine the mime type there also, I've already asked to the reporter about that let's see what we can get
[20:10] <pedro_> thanks again ;-)
[20:11] <Iulian> pedro_: Awesome
[20:11] <ubotu> New bug: #189698 in gnome-terminal (main) "gnome-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_alloc()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189698
[20:11] <ubotu> New bug: #189699 in openbox (universe) "New version: <IP_ADDRESS>" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189699
[20:11] <pedro_> gotta run now , see you later!
[20:12] <ubotu> New bug: #189659 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189659
[20:12] <ubotu> New bug: #189691 in ktorrent-kde4 (universe) "[FIX] ulimit "open-files" too low for KTorrent" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189691
[20:12] <ubotu> New bug: #189692 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "problem with intel card and resolution (dup-of: 189694)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189692
[20:12] <ubotu> New bug: #189693 in gnome-mount (main) "gnome-mount crashed with SIGSEGV in g_datalist_id_set_data_full() (dup-of: 122673)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189693
[20:15] <ubotu> New bug: #189701 in nspluginwrapper (multiverse) "npviewer.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_alloc()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189701
[20:21] <ubotu> New bug: #189702 in rhythmbox (main) "Files transferred to K850i have truncated metadata" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189702
[20:21] <ubotu> New bug: #189703 in xautomation (universe) "Newer version available in Upstream, Debian" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189703
[20:23] <ubotu> New bug: #189682 in powernowd "powernowd fails because of missing 'ignore_nice_load'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189682
[20:33] <ubotu> New bug: #189704 in network-manager (main) "Same named ESSID on different wifi routers has a problem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189704
[20:33] <ubotu> New bug: #189705 in network-manager (main) "network-manager and eap protocol" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189705
[20:42] <ubotu> New bug: #189121 in wxmaxima (universe) "wxmaxima crashed with SIGSEGV in IA__g_object_ref()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189121
[20:42] <ubotu> New bug: #189707 in kdebase-kde4 (universe) "Anchor links do not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189707
[20:52] <ubotu> New bug: #189710 in nozomi (universe) "Please sync nozomi 2.1-5 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189710
[20:55] <ubotu> New bug: #189711 in rt2x00 (universe) "rt2x00pci failed to allocate registers with my f5d7010" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189711
[20:55] <ubotu> New bug: #189713 in gnome-rdp (universe) "gnome-rdp doesn't work with ssh certificat key on Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189713
[21:00] <ubotu> New bug: #189715 in ubuntu "wrong screen resolution on aluminum 20 inch imac" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189715
[21:01] <ubotu> New bug: #189712 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in eventLoop() (dup-of: 131679)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189712
[21:05] <ubotu> New bug: #189716 in evolution (main) "Evolution addressbook 'Millennium-bug'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189716
[21:11] <ubotu> New bug: #189717 in ubiquity (main) "Startup sound during installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189717
[21:11] <ubotu> New bug: #189718 in nspluginwrapper (multiverse) "NSPluginWrapper crashes sometimes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189718
[21:26] <ubotu> New bug: #189721 in firefox-3.0 (main) "ff-3.0-gnome should store pw in the gnome keyring" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189721
[21:26] <ubotu> New bug: #189726 in gimp (main) "scaling image from 2048x1536 to 1x1 crashes gimp" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189726
[21:26] <gleaken> I updated to the latest kernel in Feisty-updates and now, I get random UI freezes.  applications will stop responding for a few seconds and then continue working.  I can give full system information   Kernel version as of right now <IP_ADDRESS>.28.1
[21:27] <ubotu> New bug: #189720 in firefox-3.0 (main) "Font's blury" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189720
[21:27] <gleaken> my menus will also freeze.  my menu bar with the system monitor is now frozen.
[21:31] <ubotu> New bug: #189695 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189695
[21:42] <jjgalvez> not sure if this is the right channel, but does anyone know why cupsys won't install?
[21:44] <verb3k> jjgalvez, Didn't you get support at #ubuntu? this channel is not usually a place where you can get support with ubuntu
[21:45] <jjgalvez> verb3k, I asked serveral times in the ubuntu channel with no help today, it was a long shot to ask here
[21:45] <ubotu> New bug: #189733 in gphpedit (universe) "gphpedit unable to open files from FTP server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189733
[21:45] <ubotu> New bug: #189737 in gnome-mount (main) "No "Connect to server" button" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189737
[21:46] <verb3k> jjgalvez, keep asking until you get help, I did that many times :) no everytime you can get your question answered though
[21:47] <jjgalvez> verb3k, thanks I'll keep it up
[21:50] <ubotu> New bug: #189734 in gnome-games (main) "Mahjongg's timer stops working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189734
[21:50] <ubotu> New bug: #189736 in system-config-printer (main) "Openprinting module missing" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189736
[21:50] <ubotu> New bug: #189738 in gnome-main-menu (universe) "No "Connect to server" button" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189738
[21:55] <ubotu> New bug: #189741 in nautilus (main) "nautilus fails to thumbnail unless explicitly opening images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189741
[21:58] <bdmurray> jjgalvez: won't install where?
[22:00] <jjgalvez> bdmurray, when I try to install cupsys with apt-get I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54961/
[22:01] <bdmurray> What release is that?
[22:01] <jjgalvez> bdmurry, of cupsys? or of ubuntu?
[22:01] <bdmurray> of ubuntu
[22:02] <jjgalvez> bdmurry 7.10
[22:03] <bdmurray> Your /var/log/apt/term.log file might be more informative
[22:03] <jjgalvez> bdmurry, ok thanks I'll loog in there
[22:06] <ubotu> New bug: #189743 in ubuntu "system can not boot with "quiet" kernel option" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189743
[22:06] <ubotu> New bug: #189744 in ufw (universe) "main inclusion report for ufw" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189744
[22:06] <ubotu> New bug: #189745 in quodlibet (universe) "Please sync quodlibet 1.0-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189745
[22:07] <jjgalvez> bdmurry, the log does not show anything different from the  std output
[22:08] <bdmurray> what does 'dpkg -l cupsys' return?
[22:10] <jjgalvez> bdmurry, here is the output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4270/
[22:15] <ubotu> New bug: #189746 in ubuntu "Tibia behaves strange with "Window Decoration" plugin in Compiz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189746
[22:15] <ubotu> New bug: #189748 in openafs (universe) "openafs-modules fail to build on hardy powerpc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189748
[22:15] <ubotu> New bug: #189749 in scanerrlog (universe) "Please sync scanerrlog 2.01-4.1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189749
[22:20] <ubotu> New bug: #189750 in k3b (main) "K3b start error message,but working." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189750
[22:21] <bdmurray> jjgalvez: you might try dpkg --configure cupsys
[22:21] <jjgalvez> bdmurray, tried that same error does not work
[22:24] <bdmurray> Have you tried installing it with aptitude?
[22:26] <ubotu> New bug: #189752 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice terminates without crashing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189752
[22:26] <jjgalvez> bdmurray, just tried it and the same error
[22:29] <bdmurray> jjgalvez: set the environmental variable "DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer" and then try installing it again
[22:29] <jjgalvez> dbmurray, ok I'll give that a try, should I juse aptitide or apt-get?
[22:30] <bdmurray> apt-get is fine
[22:31] <ubotu> New bug: #189754 in ubuntu "Ubuntu is in English, but should to be in Spanish" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189754
[22:33] <jjgalvez> bdmurray, still no dice  here is the output, http://paste.ubuntu.com/4271/
[22:35] <bdmurray> hmm, its more informative but still not helpful
[22:36] <ubotu> New bug: #189755 in trustedqsl (universe) "Please sync trustedqsl 1.11-5 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189755
[22:37] <jjgalvez> bdmurray, well at least its more info, but your right not much help
[22:39] <bdmurray> Something in the post installation script for cupsys is causing the issue.  You could look at that directly.
[22:41] <jjgalvez> dbmurray, not sure how to even begin where do you find the post install script and how can I run it by hand?
[22:45] <albert23> jjgalvez: It looks like you have an old version of update-rc.d, which doesn't know the multiuser option
[22:45] <jjgalvez> albert23, ok how do I update that? can I do just from apt-get?
[22:46] <crimsun> mm, sounds like a missing versioned dependency
[22:46] <albert23> jjgalvez: can you check what dpkg -s sysv-rc | grep Version says?
[22:46] <ubotu> New bug: #189758 in gimp (main) "[hardy] Menu entry should be named "GIMP Image Editor" Instead of only the "GNU Image Manipulation Program"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189758
[22:46] <ubotu> New bug: #189759 in wmdonkeymon (universe) "Please sync wmdonkeymon 0.91-5 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189759
[22:47] <crimsun> namely, Depends: ..., sysv-rc (>= 2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu2)
[22:47] <jjgalvez> albert23, Version 2.86.ds1-38
[22:48] <albert23> jjgalvez: I have 2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu31
[22:49] <albert23> jjgalvez: Your version does not seem to be in the Ubuntu archive for Gutsy
[22:51] <albert23> jjgalvez: Do you have any idea where you got that sysv-rc package?
[22:52] <bdmurray> That's a debian package version
[22:52] <jjgalvez> albert23, no, I thought it was from the normal repoitory, or rather I don't think I've done anything to change it
[22:52] <bdmurray> Your /etc/apt/sources.list file might be helpful
[22:53] <albert23> jjgalvez: You can try to force the version to 2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu31 in synaptic
[22:55] <ubotu> New bug: #189761 in gnome-control-center (main) "Wrong localised keyboard layout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189761
[22:55] <jjgalvez> bdmurray what command can I just to copy the contents to a clipboard (I'mm sshed into the machine right now so no gui)
[22:56] <bdmurray> jjgalvez: cat would work
[22:58] <jjgalvez> bdmurray, here is my sourses.list file http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4272/
[22:59] <bdmurray> I've no idea what affect having those non ubuntu repositories would have on your system.
[23:00] <albert23> jjgalvez: at least there is a debian line. It's commented out now, but that may have caused the "upgrade"
[23:00] <bdmurray> You could try to figure which one the sysv-rc came from via 'apt-cache cache madison sysv-rc'
[23:00] <ubotu> New bug: #189763 in ubuntu "First login doesn't work, second does" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189763
[23:00] <ubotu> New bug: #189764 in adept (main) "running adept update manager fails. error msg available" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189764
[23:02] <jjgalvez> alvert32, bdmurray, the cache says that the sysv-rc comes from us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/maon
[23:03] <jjgalvez> sorry main not maon
[23:04] <albert23> jjgalvez: apt-cache madison only says what version Ubuntu has in the archive, not where you installed from
[23:05] <ubotu> New bug: #189765 in meta-kde4 (universe) "KDE 4.0 occasionall freezes while using Firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189765
[23:05] <ubotu> New bug: #189766 in epiphany-browser (main) "Epiphany: "I'll be careful, I Promise!" button does not work in about:config" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189766
[23:06] <bdmurray> right, I missed the commented out debian line
[23:06] <jjgalvez> albert23, Oh, ok but the version that the madison command gies me is the same version as the one I have
[23:06] <jjgalvez> should I un comment out the line and do an update?
[23:06] <albert23> jjgalvez, no, you don't want to upgrade from debian
[23:08] <jjgalvez> albert23, ok so does it still look like my sysv-rc is the wrong version ? should I reinstall it?
[23:08] <albert23> jjgalvez: If you can get physical access to the machine, I suggest you use synaptic to change the version of sysv-rc
[23:11] <jjgalvez> albert23, ok I'll be on it later tonight when I get home from work, what version do you recommend? and BTW how much damage can I do to my system messing with sysv-rc?
[23:13] <albert23> jjgalvez: It may cause problems in starting services when you boot your system
[23:14] <albert23> jjgalvez: version 2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu31 is listed as the official version for Gutsy
[23:17] <jjgalvez> albert32, thats the version that My machine is reporting so should I just do a reinstall?
[23:18] <jjgalvez> albert32, thats the version that My machine is reporting so should I just do a reinstall?
[23:19] <albert23> jjgalvez: You mentioned you have version 2.86.ds1-38 installed.
[23:20] <ubotu> New bug: #189767 in xjdic (universe) "Please sync xjdic 24-7 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189767
[23:22] <jjgalvez> albert23, sorry you are absolutly right I do have a different version, ok I'll change mine back to the main supported one tonight and see what that does
[23:23] <albert23> jjgalvez: That should be the best. Then I think cupsys will also be fine again
[23:24] <jjgalvez> albert23, Thanks again, I'll defiantly  give it s try and keep my fingers corssed
[23:24] <albert23> jjgalvez: OK, Good Luck!
[23:31] <ubotu> New bug: #189768 in elib (universe) "elib post-install returns a exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189768
[23:31] <ubotu> New bug: #189769 in gnomad2 (universe) "Please check Gnomad for badware" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189769
[23:31] <ubotu> New bug: #189770 in texlive-base (main) "texlive-common doesn't recommend texlive-pictures" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189770
[23:31] <ubotu> New bug: #189772 in ubuntu "[hardy] glxinfo uses 100% CPU" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189772
[23:51] <ubotu> New bug: #189775 in ubuntu "Hardy: No input after resuming from suspend on Lenovo 3000 N100 with nVidia restricted driver enabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189775
[23:52] <ubotu> New bug: #189724 in inkscape "Variable stroke along path (dup-of: 172518)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189724
[23:52] <ubotu> New bug: #189774 in seahorse (main) "seahorse shows passwords without verification" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189774
[23:55] <ubotu> New bug: #189777 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel freezes during keyring password entry" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189777


[00:32] <minimal> meena: nope, you'd have to boot off some other media and chroot into the OS to run grub-install
[04:25] <irshadh> Hi. I made a mistake on the Canonical CLA form here (https://ubuntu.com/legal/contributors/agreement). Is there a way to correct it? Thank you.
[13:32] <meena> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports&m=170488957300891&w=2 this is a lot of feedback
[14:07] <holmanb> irshadh: just sign it again with the correct information
[14:11] <holmanb> meena: that is a lot
[14:11] <holmanb> meena: this one looks like it is based on false assumptions:
[14:12] <holmanb> > that way the user gets the templates somewhere in the system and they can choose when to use them.
[14:13] <holmanb> since these template files don't get selected by users but by code, right?
[15:06] <holmanb> minimal: does alpine use isc-dhclient?
[15:06] <holmanb> I don't see it in the depends https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/tree/community/cloud-init/APKBUILD
[15:08] <holmanb> I've never looked at an APKBUILD before, but they look pretty intuitive
[15:11] <holmanb> minimal: also, I'm guessing that py3-tox isn't needed in checkdepends, since the check function only contains `python3 -m pytest` and doesn't invoke pytest via tox
[15:12] <holmanb> happy to toss a PR for that if you want it, but not really sure where/how to do that
[16:17] <minimal> holmanb: Alpine *can* use dhclient, udhcpc is the default DHCP client as it comes wityh Busybox, for more info regarding DHCP client see the "Additional Alpine packages required by specific DataSources" section of https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/tree/community/cloud-init/README.Alpine
[16:18] <holmanb> minimal: ahhh, that has the missing information I was looking for
[16:18] <minimal> I specifically did not add dhclient as a dependancy and Alpine packaging does not have "Suggests" or "Recommends" unlike Debian/Ubuntu
[16:18] <holmanb> that makes sense, thanks!
[16:19] <minimal> basically once c-i creates a ENI file it then runs "ifup" which handles finding an installed DHCP client to use (udhcpc, dhclient, dhcpcd)
[16:20] <holmanb> gotcha
[16:20] <minimal> the only "issue" is where c-i wants to run a DHCP client directly itself for ephemeral DHCP, which is why I added that note
[16:21] <holmanb> I would expect udhcpc to work in ephemeral on several clouds
[16:21] <holmanb> I think udhcpc needs to add classless static routes and support for unknown options to work on OpenStack and Azure, maybe some others too
[16:21] <minimal> holmanb: APKBUILD files AFAIK are "conceptually based on" Gentoo's PKGBUILD files
[16:22] <holmanb> PKGBUILD are arch no?
[16:22] <minimal> ok? perhaps you're right, I forget :-)
[16:22] <holmanb> but yeah looks similar to a PKGBUILD, and also not that different than Gentoo's ebuild either
[16:23] <minimal> re: udhcpc, well that README does refer to using dhclient with those DSes as a requirement/"safe" choice
[16:23] <holmanb> agreed - the readme is how I'd write it
[16:24] <holmanb> the contributor who added udhcpc support said they'd come back to finish it, but never did
[16:24] <meena> holmanb: yeah, but i think a lot of unix grey beards are still rubbed the wrong way by a thing called templates being in etc
[16:25] <minimal> as for py3-tox, ok I'll try a package rebuild without it to verify. I *think* someone else might have added that dep as originally the package didn't run any tests at all and someone else (2 years ago?) then enabled the tests
[16:25] <holmanb> I'll add an issue on GH for finishing udhcpc and ping them in case they feel like finishing it
[16:25] <minimal> meena: if you look at my Alpine packaging I actually remove all the non-Alpine and non-general templates
[16:26] <minimal> likewise I remove non-Alpine modules (i.e. Debian APT ones etc)
[16:27] <meena> why not allow people to transform alpine onto Debian using cloud-init
[16:27] <minimal> I once tried removing all the non-ENI network ones but then had runtime errors and so left those in
[16:27] <holmanb> minimal: sounds good. Tox is just used during development and in Github Actions to manually install the python dependencies using pip and requirements.txt (and the other requirements files). On distros you probably want to test with the distro-provided dependencies, tox doesn't really make sense (and in your case isn't even used).
[16:27] <minimal> I'm not sure what "transform alpine onto Debian using cloud-init" means
[16:28] <minimal> you mean replace an installed and running Alpine system with a Debian one?
[16:28] <meena> cc_debianize.py
[16:29] <minimal> what is cc_debianize.py? That's not in the c-i source
[16:30] <meena> because I just made it up
[16:30] <minimal> so I'm still not sure what you're referring to
[16:31] <meena> but, like, have you never bootstrapped Debian from some other OS? or perhaps in your case bootstrapped Alpine from something else
[16:31] <meena> anyway, I'm just rambling nonsense, sorry
[16:32] <minimal> I did ask whether you meant "you mean replace an installed and running Alpine system with a Debian one?"
[16:32] <minimal> in which case the Debian package of clout-init would be installed complete with its Debian templates
[16:33] <meena> I had to, on occasion, bootstrap FreeBSD (zfs) from FreeBSD (ufs)
[16:34] <minimal> I'm familiar with the general concept of "installing in place" as people sometimes/often do that for Alpine on VPSes where the provider does not have an option to create an Alpine VPS
[16:35] <minimal> but as I point out the cloud-init package for the "destination" distro/OS will have suitable c-i templates for it to use
[16:41] <meena> minimal: truth is: the reason for my rambling is: I'm deflecting, cuz I'm shying away from that kind of work for any of the BSDs
[16:45] <minimal> meena: https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/tree/community/cloud-init/APKBUILD#n133 onwards is where I remove non-Alpine-relevant files during packaging
[17:32] <meena> minimal: that's kinda simple enough
[18:01] <minimal> meena: now you've put the idea in my head of writing c-i user-data use with VPS/Cloud Providers who only have Debian/Ubuntu/whatever cloud-init images but no Alpine image to, on 1st boot, use a script ot replace the host OS with Alpine and then reboot, with the user-data then being used again (for the 1st time by Alpine) to do config :-)
[18:03] <minimal> I'll codename it either "Russian Doll" or "Trojan Horse" lol
[18:06] <meena> you're welcome
[20:01] <holmanb> cjp256: ping
[20:05] <holmanb> cjp256: I see that unknown-245 contains the same address as dhcp-server-identifier on azure. Is it ever the case that these two will contain different values?
[20:29] <holmanb> that code was ported from walinuxagent based on the commit history
[20:29] <holmanb> and in walinux agent i see a hint for why unknown-245 might be used
[20:30] <holmanb> a comment in a test introduced in commit c484d3012c0512c2 states "validate that the wireserver address is coming from option 245 (on default configurations the address is also available in the domain-name-servers option, but users may set up a custom dns server on their vnet)"
[21:11] <cjp256> holmanb: in theory they could be different.  I understand option 245 was meant to allow for changing the wireserver address, if needed.
[21:12] <cjp256> can you link to that commit? I don't see it in my repo
[21:22] <holmanb> cjp256: that commit was in walinux agent
[21:22] <holmanb> https://github.com/Azure/WALinuxAgent/commit/c484d3012c0512c2f6d9406d5c3a1b89d33eb323
[21:22] -ubottu:#cloud-init- Commit c484d30 in Azure/WALinuxAgent "Take wireserver address from option 245 in DHCP lease (#1303)"
[21:25] <holmanb> cjp256: gotcha, no worries I was just asking to be sure it is still needed
[22:19] <holmanb> meena:
[22:19] <meena> holmanb:
[22:19] <holmanb> I think the temp_utils.py also needs some help with ephemeral directory
[22:19] <falcojr> XD
[22:19] <meena> my
[22:20] <meena> I did think, that was too easy
[22:20] <holmanb> meena: probably not a real bug, but probably filling up directory with tempfiles over time
[22:20] <holmanb> could probably just replace _ROOT_TMPDIR with a call to helpers.Paths.run_dir
[22:23] <meena> who's idea was a module global constant anyway?
[22:23] <holmanb> I take that back, now that the bsd path is relocated this will cause bugs
[22:24] <holmanb> cmd/main.py and cmd/devel/logs.py each define their own /run/cloud-init variable
[22:24] <meena> https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/commit/409918f9ba83e45e9bc5cc0b6c589e2fc8ae9b60
[22:24] -ubottu:#cloud-init- Commit 409918f in canonical/cloud-init "Use /run/cloud-init for tempfile operations."
[22:24] <meena> We should fix that before the next release
[22:25] <holmanb> meena: the problem isn't the module global constant, the problem is that it only gets used *sometimes*
[22:25] <meena> Also, the fact that it went unnoticed in tests tells me I've done a bad job testing that change
[22:26] <holmanb> also helpers/azure.py does it
[22:28] <meena> fun times
[22:29] <holmanb> there is also a user facing string in devel/render.py that is technically untrue since it _does_ use the right path but has hardcoded /run/cloud-init
[22:29] <holmanb> meena: I can file a bug if you want, lmk
[22:30] <holmanb> agreed, should fix it before next release
[22:31] <meena> please do, I'm in bed rn, and the only thing i need to get up for is to do some things I  forgot in the kitchen
[22:42] <holmanb> meena: sounds good, will do
[22:45] <holmanb> also just noticed a couple of calls to Paths({}), which is no-bueno


[08:09] <jussi> ScottL: yes. I can (RE: your PM) =)
[12:51] <ckontros> jussi: The naming of the channel and ML is a a visual one. And IMO, I'd leave it as-is. I hated naming the ML that way. When I set it up w/elmo he said as much but I didn't care to push the issue.
[12:51] <ckontros> If there's no *technical* need to change, I'd give it a -1.
[15:47] <ckontros> crimsun: Is there a way to EQ *everything* that runs through ALSA?
[19:58] <ScottL> thanks jussi :) i appreciate it


 I think my router needs a proper, and respectful funeral.
 Adam, what are you using as a router?
 oh no! Gadi's here! *hides behind a rock*
 it came in?!?!?!
 I hide behind boulders .... I am way to fat for rocks
 Yah. Built it over the weekend
 sweet!!!
 That's a WRT54G
 For a tinkering device, get a Mikrotik....
 @ghbd0wn, Flawless
 For a medium range with nice failover / bonding.... peplink balance one
 For an enterprise device, fortinet 60E
 i agree, i'm compelled to say that looks better than a lot of Keith's prints
 Anything else , call your mother
 Benchie looks good.  Maybe the belts are a bit lose.  It appears there is some ringing on the x or y axism
 @Ivoriesablaze, That printer can be much more detailed
 @ghbd0wn show that video to jared?
 Tighten x axis.
 I actually thought it was pretty darn tight
 I will look and see
 The issue I am having is the first layer adhesion on multi printing
 Looks like you need to adjust your slicer for 20% more overlap on borders.
 You see how the layer fill on the top of that part comes right to the edge of the border?  It should overlap so there is no gap there.
 Yah I noticed that
 I am a nubee on that
 I’ll try that later tonight
 I'm looking at the ripple in the center about the X axis.
 The X axis is actually really tight
 Y?
 Also pretty tight
 anybody up for an ubuntu release get together in a couple weeks? and yes, i knoe it releases today
 @Ivoriesablaze, I would not be opposed to next weekend
 not upcoming, right?
 The 5th
 works for me
 i assume sushi will be involved
[13:08] <maxolase1squad> Poseidon willing, I may make it down too.
 Which slicer are you using that makes the raft with a ridge?
 Or is that a brim with ridge?
 Anyone up to seeing the Avengers Movie this weekend?
 I think I have been Rick Rolled at Mojo Donuts
 Already seeing it with someone
 @SivaMachina, HAHA
 I can't drink my coffee in peice dang it
 peace*
 @SivaMachina, That would turn me into a monster of some sort
 Need coffee
 luckily I'm on my third cup.
 Lol
 I seem to be falling asleep around 9pm lately so if there's a get together I'll have to leave before then x_x
 I can't afford to slip off my schedule atm
 @RazPi on a schedule???  I detect sorcery or witchcraft
 Impossìblê
 I know right? It's like the outer limits over here
 Are we doing mojo or something this weekend?  I still want that goog router
 Even if we dont, I can still try to get the router to you. It is on my desk
 On a side note, I am thinking of starting a new "Coffee and Code" meetup. Once a month, the group meets to spend a few hours working on personal projects over coffee
 I'd like that
 I still have my CL project I haven't been able to burn time on
 CL?
 Common Lisp
 Ah
 does anybody know about the international airport center electronic stores?
 What about those?
 Gadi just told me about it
 I have browsed a few when I am traveling
 and you've never told me about this???
 probably for my wallet's sake
 I have never stepped foot in an airport with you
 Overpriced Bluetooth headphones
 No
 Or am I talking about a different one
 This is the area by Mia with 100 computer stores next to each other
 corner of 31st and milam dairy
 Oh, then I am not talking about the same
 You guys are all in for a treat
 You should make a day excursion
 Leave wallets at home
 What about Samsung Pay and Android Pay? These are important questions
 I am not your mother
 I am up for a day trip
 probably the first weekend of may?
 not this weekend, but after
 Just let me know. I do have something on the 19th
 ok
 coffee and code sounds good.
 I work weekends but I can get off at 1.
 I just finished writing a bunch of Perl code to control my cameras from ZoneMinder running on Ubuntu.
 I'm also working on an Android Auto build.
 crankshaft?
 currently, yes. but it's going to be more like AO-Crankshaft when I'm done.
 I'd like to write some apps to communicate with OBD-II as well.
 I wrote java classes several years ago to handle the communications from the car. All the standard OBD2 modes are implemented.  This project just needs some fancy UI work and a bluetooth serial port to those cheap chinese dongles. https://github.com/adamoutler/obd-twoner/tree/master/src
 interesting
 So in theory, how many of you would be interested in a Monthly Coffee and Code event?
[22:16] <floridagram-bot> * Ivoriesablaze raises hand high... minus the coffee
 bc caffiene hates me
 I am asking so I can try to find a space
 memmememmemememememe meme
 saturday noonish
 not this saturday for me, i'm actually busy
 afternoon can get too late for drinking coffee and morning on saturday probably isn't the best.  We would need to plan around HackMiami though.
 No, I dont have time to look for a place this Saturday, even if I wanted to
 ok
 Where is Hack Miami being held at these days?
 broward library in the maker center.
 first floor where the printers are.
 they have several rows of 3d printers.
 @Ivoriesablaze, Ok, I guess we need to plan a visit. Just make sure you save for SELF


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[11:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4630 Proposed pocket (focal/evdi). UNAPPROVED queue (focal/lttng-modules)
[11:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4630 Proposed pocket
[21:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- slyon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4602 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (impish/linux-raspi-unstable, impish/suricata, impish/systemd). Proposed pocket (impish/linux-unstable)