[00:41] <mup> PR snapcraft#1379 closed: blank version should not be allowed in snapcraft.yaml <Created by roxyd> <Merged by elopio> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1379>
[01:23] <mup> PR snapcraft#1386 opened: tests: workaround issue that causes failures to download core <Created by elopio> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1386>
[01:29] <mup> PR snapcraft#1387 opened: tests: reenable the cleanbuild integration test <Created by elopio> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1387>
[04:38] <mup> PR snapcraft#1388 opened: beta <Created by snappy-m-o> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1388>
[18:40] <bdx> what is the preferred method of getting the host arch from within a plugin context?
[18:41] <bdx> I'm thinking there has to be a `uname -p` equivalent hanging around here
[21:31] <popey> ogra_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24999295/ is the syslog from my nano pi air running your image. I haven't got a serial cable so can't actually use it yet.


[09:58] <tiger2wander> Hi all
[09:59] <tiger2wander> Anyway to list all bundled images on S3 using EC2 command line?
[10:00] <tiger2wander> I have registered an image on EC2 and can launch instance using it, today I back and launch another instance and it get failed
[10:00] <erichammond> tiger2wander: check out the s3cmd command line tools, or Tim Kay's "aws" command line tool.  Use these to list the contents of the buckets and look for keys ending in ".manifest.xml"
[10:01] <tiger2wander> I'm trying with many ec2-* command but not success
[10:01] <erichammond> You can't access s3 keys with ec2-* commands.
[10:02] <erichammond> If you're looking for AMIs which have been registered, try: ec2-describe-images -a
[10:03] <tiger2wander> I known it, but I need to list all AMI: registered and not yet registered
[10:03] <erichammond> tiger2wander: Then do what I said before.
[10:04] <tiger2wander> erichammond:: OK, I'm going to look around Tim Kay's "aws" command line tool, thanks
[10:10] <tiger2wander> erichammond:: I've just got Tim Kay's aws, perfect tool to working with amazon EC2 & S3, thanks you very much erichammond :)


[03:16] <shakes809> cmaloney: came across this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhffS08IbZg&feature=youtu.be and is open for people to use however they would like: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2797468?hl=en
[03:16] <shakes809> You said that finding music was difficult, maybe another avenue you have / haven't looked into?
[03:17] <cmaloney> Not following the line of thinking
[03:17] <shakes809> You still do the metal cast, correct?
[03:17] <cmaloney> Oh yeah
[03:17] <cmaloney> Actually I have a lot of music now
[03:18] <shakes809> you said a while back that you were looking for new music and that it was hard to find some with the creative commons licensing
[03:18] <shakes809> Ah, cool
[03:18] <cmaloney> Yeah, that was a while ago
[03:18] <cmaloney> it's become a little easier nowadays
[03:21] <shakes809> haha, alright, cool :)
[04:07] <cmaloney> Thanks for thinking  of me though. Appreciate it.
[04:08] <shakes809> Yeah, no problem.  have a good night
[04:08] <cmaloney> You too


[00:00] <Sabotender> or just droid
[00:00] <RaimondRaj> sarnold : im fix it
[00:00] <Sabotender> its probably a fork or whatever they call it, of ubuntu
[00:01] <sarnold> Sabotender: yeah, I went looking for a package manifest but couldn't find one.. I grabbed an image, but don't have an easy wasy to mount something I don't trust, and searching through it with 'safe' tools is just kinda hard, hehe
[00:03] <Sabotender> imnot asking for much, I just want this wireless adapter to workk
[00:03] <Sabotender> its frusturatingg
[00:04] <Sabotender> is there a way to compile sans dkms? thats the one that seems to be having issues with headers
[00:05] <Sabotender> I was able to compile a driver which turned out to be the incorrect driver
[00:05] <sarnold> Sabotender: this is very helpful for building out-of-tree modules https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kbuild/modules.txt
[00:06] <sarnold> Sabotender: of course it assumes the authors knew what they were doing; that's not always a given with out-of-tree modules :(
[00:07] <Sabotender> this appears to be exactly the driver I need but the instructions use dkms and I dont know the way around it
[00:11] <Jeremy31> Sabotender: do the git clone, then cd into the source directory and do a make and sudo make install
[00:13] <xatrix> Hi, i was asking about what can i do to fix broken functionality of google-chrome a day ago. It simply doesn't spawn Open/Save dialog. Currenly i found some debug info when i try to hit CTRL+O or S. This what i have in syslog while i press it. https://pastebin.com/up94btmg .. Any idea how to fix it ?
[00:19] <Sabotender> oooh hmm, let me try that
[00:22] <sarnold> xatrix: maybe there's more details in journalctl?
[00:25] <Sabotender> I need to set up this new image again
[00:25] <xatrix> Sabotender: xdg-desktop-por[3132]: Failed to create file chooser proxy: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.impl.portal.desktop.gtk: Timeo>
[00:25] <Sabotender> because I thought I shouldnt have upgraded
[00:27] <xatrix> Sabotender: https://pastebin.com/n98hq9dk
[00:29] <sarnold> xatrix: dang :( there's no more details there, either :(
[00:29] <sarnold> oh, that's sytemctl; try just 'journalctl' and run it again, see if you get better errors there
[00:30] <Sabotender> I dont know what you are showing me
[00:34] <sarnold> Sabotender: xatrix just made a tab-completion mistake, he meant to show it to me
[00:37] <Sabotender> installing build-essential again 🙁
[00:39] <hrob> o/ long time since I have had such troubles,  I need to boot with a read only on my root partition, maybe with some init 1 command as I think used to be possible
[00:40] <hrob> any suggestions,  I suspect there is some quicky way of doing this,  but Im no longer familiar... also... mount -o remount,ro    is not an option as so many services on ubuntu with files open
[00:41] <rob0> I know how to do that with SysVinit, but not with systemd
[00:41] <Bashing-om> hrob: Will a root shell from the recovery console do you ?
[00:42] <hrob> Bashing-om tried it... it still has read write and shit-loads of open files
[00:43] <hrob> Im reading edit /etc/fstab   to set it to read only then reboot... I'll do that I guess but seems kinda low level to me
[00:44] <hrob> I was just wondering about this... that ubuntu/debian has some safe/trusted helper to do this, maybe through systemd
[00:44] <rob0> the boot process is going to remount,rw
[00:44] <rob0> yes, the answer is somewhere in systemd documentation
[00:47] <hrob> btw... as far as I read ubuntu 20+ is ok with that fstab approach in recovery mode
[00:47] <hrob> so I'll just try that
[00:48] <hrob> however another issue... my eyes are horribly poor... and I have this stupid retina display laptop...  the shell prompt in recovery mode is aaaalmost not humanly readble, so small
[00:49] <hrob> anyone know a solution to that issue... maybe some bash shell command to increase the text size?
[00:52] <pavlos> hrob: look at /etc/default/console-setup ...
[00:52] <hrob> maybe I rubber ducked it..  /etc/default/console-setup
[00:52] <hrob> ah yeah lol
[00:53] <hrob> well its fstab + that and reboot... thanks!
[00:54] <pavlos> hrob: see fonts in /usr/share/consolefonts/
[00:55] <hrob> hm i dont have a /usr/share folder
[00:55] <hrob> sorry.. wrong... I do...
[00:55] <hrob> OK so I can use some of those too
[00:56] <hrob> but logging off, rebooting in ro... may not be back if everything goes cr***
[00:57] <hrob> wish me luck
[00:59] <kushba> Hello
[00:59] <kushba> alguien de Perù?
[01:02] <Sabotender> i want tobuild this driver but I dont know how to do it without dkms. I can only follow instructions and can't just makke things up : https://pastebin.com/2hhwHYxq
[01:04] <Sabotender> should I just follow the git clone line then cd to the directory and make then make install?
[01:06] <Sabotender> oh I am asking in wrong channel
[02:33] <Sabotender> I have internet! ❤ now I can control this odroid via secure ssh
[02:33] <sarnold> \o/
[02:35] <Sabotender> I was able to compile the correct driver and get it installed
[02:50] <archpc> Who the hell asked if I wanted to play Battlefield 4, I quit playing that years ago
[03:19] <jwd2488> How do I rename the host (server name) on a ubuntu machine?
[03:21] <sarnold> try hostnamectl
[03:21] <sarnold> I'm not sure what it might miss, probably the name is embedded in a bunch of other config files for various programs
[04:04] <tripp4h> i have two questions, ubuntu 22.10 is doing automatic updates, how do i prevent this?
[04:06] <tripp4h> does it have to do with this line: "APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "2";" on the file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades? probably not
[04:13] <rnat> The GUI way of disabling auto-updates is by going to softwares&updates app, select the updates tab then look at "automatically check for updates" field, set it to "Never"
[04:17] <tripp4h> rnat: i'd like to automatically check for updates, but not update automatically.
[04:19] <tripp4h> maybe disabling this would also help for the automatic updates. it didn't update automatically before, i don't know what's with it.
[04:19] <rnat> once you have done what i had suggested, use this command to manually check for updates sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[04:33] <rnat> Well in your case you need this config https://pastebin.com/v4L4hE45
[04:35] <tripp4h> rnat: for what file that is for?
[04:35] <rnat>  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades
[04:36] <tripp4h> ahh, the same file, yes
[04:39] <tripp4h> another issue: when i update software with software updater, i always get this error: "Package operation failed - The installation or removal of a software package failed.". how to fix this?
[04:40] <tripp4h> i've tried to update wine many times, but it doesn't get updated.
[04:42] <EagleOwl> (groan) My /etc/apache/apache2.conf is gone. How best to get another copy of the default one? Ubuntu Jammy. Apache was 2.4.52 Nov 8.
[04:46] <NickH> apt download apache2
[04:47] <NickH> dpkg -x apache2*.deb
[04:47] <EagleOwl> thx lots
[04:47] <NickH> sudo cp etc/apache2/apache2.conf /etc/apache2/
[04:47] <NickH> Only the last step requires sudo/root
[05:06] <tripp4h> rnat: do you have an answer for that question?
[05:11] <tripp4h> hmm, did some googling...
[05:11] <tripp4h> used the commandline, did this: sudo apt --fix-broken install
[05:12] <tripp4h> seems it solved the problem!
[05:12] <tripp4h> had to install libgssdp-1.2-0
[05:14] <Bashing-om> tripp4h: ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' runs and shows now all zeros ?
[05:22] <tripp4h> Bashing-om: hmm... it says "1 not upgraded"
[05:22] <tripp4h> but this is not a problem i think
[05:23] <Bashing-om> tripp4h: Held back ?
[05:23] <tripp4h> The following packages have been kept back: libc++1
[05:27] <Bashing-om> tripp4h: Humm --- ' apt policy libc++1 ' : does it reflect it is in phased updates ?
[05:40] <tripp4h> Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/9ETRCpHA
[05:42] <Diagon> How do I get my Thinkpad, where 22.04 was installed using optimus and then nvidia drivers added, to boot with only discreet graphics?  When I try, it freezes.
[05:57] <matsaman> Diagon: freezes?
[06:06] <Diagon> matsaman / Freezes on boot: "ACPI: vidao: Video Device [VID1] (multi-head: yes rom: yes post: no)` then `sdhci` and it freezes with fan cranking.
[06:08] <Diagon> So nvidia was working fine (prime-select query would return nvidia), but now with only the dGPU rather than Optimus, the machine won't boot.
[06:22] <matsaman> huh
[06:23] <matsaman> well you could try disabling the windowing system on boot
[06:23] <matsaman> https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-disable-enable-gui-in-ubuntu-22-04-jammy-jellyfish-linux-desktop or the like
[06:24] <matsaman> you could uninstall the nvidia/optimus/any graphics drivers
[06:24] <matsaman> you could try nomodeset
[08:41] <gneeriiloeepdeer> cryptsetup question: my computer has this security feature as well as a ubuntu password. Something new happened today: I entered my passphrase, but my machine didn't recognize it. I checked the passphrase several times. I tried for seven timesand then, somehow, the passphrase was accepted. This was yesterday.
[08:41] <gneeriiloeepdeer> today something similar happened, except that I powered the machine off and I entered recovery mode. I chose the second recovery mode option and the passphrase reacted as planned
[08:41] <gneeriiloeepdeer> what is going on and why?
[10:45] <R4v3n> does somebody already upgrade a CEPH 15 installed from ubuntu 20.04 repos to a ceph 16 and/or 17 after upgrading to 22.04 ?
[10:46] <murmel> R4v3n: pretty sure, you would find more people who maybe did it in #ubuntu-server
[10:46] <R4v3n> thx
[11:10] <Diagon> matsaman / thanks. I do want to use the nvidia driver, so removing it is not my objective. Rather, it is to get it to boot.
[11:12] <Diagon> matsaman / I am able to boot nomodeset up to a blank screen.  C-A-F2 gets me a termina.  What would be the point of disabling the windowing system?
[11:25] <gneeriiloeepdeer> cryptsetup question: my computer has this security feature as well as a ubuntu password. Something new happened today: I entered my passphrase, but my machine didn't recognize it. I checked the passphrase several times. I tried for seven timesand then, somehow, the passphrase was accepted. This was yesterday.
[11:26] <gneeriiloeepdeer> today something similar happened, except that I powered the machine off and I entered recovery mode. I chose the second recovery mode option and the passphrase reacted as planned
[11:26] <gneeriiloeepdeer> what is going on and why?
[11:29] <EriC^^_> gneeriiloeepdeer: maybe the keyboard isnt working all the time?
[11:29] <gneeriiloeepdeer> EriC^^_, strange
[11:29] <gneeriiloeepdeer> why would it be?
[11:30] <gneeriiloeepdeer> EriC^^_, can overheating cause this?
[11:30] <EriC^^_> gneeriiloeepdeer: dont think so
[11:30] <gneeriiloeepdeer> partially broken fan
[11:31] <gneeriiloeepdeer> EriC^^_, ok, any other reason you could think of would be appreciated
[11:31] <gneeriiloeepdeer> EriC^^_, can the passphrase change after a kernel upgrade?
[11:31] <EriC^^_> gneeriiloeepdeer: no, dont think so
[11:32] <EriC^^_> it sounds like some input problem, if you tried several times, then it worked
[11:32] <gneeriiloeepdeer> I also thought space could be a reason: my memory is full, only have .95 GiB free space
[11:32] <gneeriiloeepdeer> EriC^^_, the thing is, I dont believe i have dementia
[11:33] <gneeriiloeepdeer> EriC^^_, is there any way for my computer to print in characters the passphrase?
[11:33] <EriC^^_> gneeriiloeepdeer: we've already talked about this 6 times already
[11:33] <EriC^^_> (dementia joke)
[11:33] <gneeriiloeepdeer> you troll :D
[11:34] <EriC^^_> gneeriiloeepdeer: try typing many times the passphrase in gedit or so, and see if sometimes some keys or caps arent working
[11:36] <gneeriiloeepdeer> EriC^^_, if I change the passphrase I should make a sec copy before, correct? new passphrases nukes the computer, right?
[11:40] <EriC^^_> gneeriiloeepdeer: no, that doesnt sound right
[11:40] <EriC^^_> gneeriiloeepdeer: https://www.cyberciti.biz/security/how-to-change-luks-disk-encryption-passphrase-in-linux/
[11:41] <EriC^^_> gneeriiloeepdeer: if you want, type 'read -s passphrase'  and try typing the passphrase consecutively (dont hit enter til you want to finish testing)
[11:41] <EriC^^_> then do 'echo $passphrase' and see the results
[11:42] <gneeriiloeepdeer> EriC^^_, what if I do sudo cryptsetup --verbose open --test-passphrase /dev/sda3?
[11:45] <EriC^^_> sure why not
[11:45] <EriC^^_> i think you mean --verify-passphrase though?
[11:50] <gneeriiloeepdeer> sudo cryptsetup --verbose open --verify-passphrase /dev/nvme0n2 returns Command failed with code -1 (wrong or missing parameters).
[12:10] <netameta> What does curl -sL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_16.x | sudo -E bash - commend do ?
[12:17] <loose> it fetches a script from the internet and runs it with root priviliges (aka the worst possible way of distributing software)
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:20] <netameta> loose, thanks
[13:26] <gneeriiloeepdeer> im just asking for confirmation that changing my luks encrypted main ssd with gnome-disks is not going to nuke my computer
[13:27] <gneeriiloeepdeer> am I going to nuke my computer?
[13:48] <Sabotender> Ijust wanted to let everyone know that I was able to compile the correct driver for my wireless adapters. now I can move on to the next steps for configuration for my project
[13:48] <rob0> congrats
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> Sabotender: you got a bug ID in that wifi chipset?
[13:49] <rob0> and the compiled driver is working well?
[13:52] <Sabotender> yes, it sure was reporting the incorrect chipset because I foolishly got the chipset version in the CD that was included, and until I used libbusb like I should have done in the beginning, this would have been more straightforward. a few google searches revealed the github page with detailed support and download and compilation instructions which worked a peach.
[13:53] <Sabotender> I am not a linux guru. I follow walk-throughs to get where I need to
[13:56] <rob0> this is more or less how you become a guru :)
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> Sabotender: if a device is not recognized by default on ubuntu, usualy that would deserve a bug, so the developers can fix it
[13:57] <rob0> IIRC that rtl8xxx (?) driver is not yet in the mainstream kernel?
[13:58] <rob0> I looked it up a couple weeks ago for someone here.
[13:58] <Sabotender> oooh that's what you meant, my mistake. yes absolutely, it could easily be plug and play quality. bbut I could test it more if needed, but I've been downloading libbs and utilities all morning, hehe
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> Sabotender: what gives on; sudo lshw -C network plz?
[14:00] <Sabotender> ive connected to the Odroid via ssh  and it absolutely reports that I am using Ubuntu even though uname a is not giving the information. perhaps I am using the incorrect switch
[14:01] <Sabotender> just a moment please
[14:04] <Sabotender> erm let me pastebin this
[14:04] <Sabotender> its a lot of data
[14:10] <Sabotender> https://pastebin.com/hg1gXafj
[14:13] <Sabotender> I really need to perform a speed test with these wireless nics, if only there were a cli method to do this 😜
[14:16] <Sabotender> lotuspsychje:  I keep forgetting to highlight people
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> Sabotender: tnx, im looking at your chipset for relevant bugs, but didnt find right away
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> Sabotender: your lshw output doesnt give a productname either
[14:19] <Sabotender> for the Odroid XU Lite?
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> Sabotender: no, your realtek chipset, driver=rtl88x2bu
[14:21] <Sabotender> oh the realtek, yeah, but its nice that it is reporting the correct chipset
[14:23] <phil42> why is there a directory named nicky in my /home ?
[14:24] <pavlos> phil42: you created a user nicky at some point
[14:24] <bG9s> phil42: either it was created by a service or I'm thinking someone would have created that
[14:24] <bG9s> right
[14:25] <bG9s> some services will create home directories but ... not familiar with one for "nicky"
[14:26] <pavlos> phil42: 'last' will tell you if that user ever logged on
[14:27] <phil42> i didn't find a user nicky, just /home/nicky
[14:28] <phil42> and files in /home/nicky/source/p64_3p-fontconfig/stage/var/cache/fontconfig
[14:29] <phil42> all owned by root
[14:32] <phil42> should i reinstall ?
[14:33] <pavlos> phil42: you could rm -rf /home/nicky as root
[14:35] <zetheroo> So I ended up doing a fresh install of Ubuntu 22.04 and the performance is so much better than after having done an upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04. However, it seems that my system is not using the Nvidia graphics at all.
[14:35] <rob0> My guess would be that some poorly-packaged font included files in /home/nicky
[14:35] <rob0> phil42: ^^
[14:36] <phil42> Nicky font is a retro-styled, bold italic Serif font, that will make your design outstanding and casual vibe! Designed by Sarid Ezra,
[14:36] <zetheroo> In Software & Updates > Additional Drivers > 'Continue using a manually installed driver' is selected ... even though I never manually installed any driver.
[14:37] <zetheroo> screenshot: https://ibb.co/n8zdG5V
[14:38] <phil42> is it a poorly packaged font or a trojan ?
[14:38] <zetheroo> Some graphics info: https://pastebin.com/6L7L0FTb
[14:39] <pavlos> phil42: sudo updatedb ; locate nicky should give you files in your system
[14:42] <rob0> phil42, for now just try renaming /home/nicky, so if the files there are needed somenow, you still have them.
[14:43] <rob0> There is a slight chance that it could have been malicious, but it's always safest to assume ignorance rather than malice. :)
[14:43] <phil42> more likely to be correct, not safest  :)
[14:45] <rob0> I'd argue it's safer to refrain from overreaction.
[14:45] <rob0> It's not like they put a binary there and slipped it into root's $PATH
[14:45] <phil42> my unused disk just spun up twice
[14:46] <phil42> maybe because of updatedb
[14:46] <rob0> Was this nicky font part of Ubuntu, or something else?
[14:46] <phil42> don't know.    i didn'
[14:46] <phil42> i didn't install it on purpose
[14:46] <rob0> Something might have pulled it in.
[14:47] <phil42> locate nicky shows only the files and directories in /home/nicky
[14:49] <rob0> We need someone with greater understanding of apt to find out what pulled this font in, from where.
[14:49] <rob0> (That is, I don't have that understanding.)
[14:50] <rob0> But it really does not look like a trojan.
[14:51] <pavlos> phil42: you can look in /var/log/apt/history.log
[14:51] <bG9s> oh I know how to search
[14:51] <bG9s> special
[14:51] <bG9s> spacial
[14:52] <bG9s> apt-file search /home/nicky
[14:52] <bG9s> doubtful it'll show tho
[14:52] <bG9s> this doesn't look like anything that would be "installed" exactly
[14:52] <rob0> we also want to know what package pulled it in.
[14:53] <rob0> There could be a bug to report.
[14:54] <rob0> Generally no .deb package hs any business creating directories in /home
[14:54] <Sabotender> I installed a cli ased speed test utility and I am impressed that the adapter is reporting abbbout 200mbps  down, which was expected
[14:55] <Sabotender> if you know of any other things I can use to test the compatibility of this driver, I'll e happy to try it
[14:56] <rob0> Sabotender, note that for 802.11 often the local wireless segment will be the slowest part. For example I get ~400Mbps to my router, but gigabit between it and the ISP.
[14:56] <rob0> You're probably going to want to focus on testing that local speed only.
[14:56] <pavlos> phil42: 'stat /home/nicky' will give you info when this nicky was created, accessed, modified
[14:58] <jhutchins> sney: Naming conventions did not collide at first because Debian frankly didn't offer the equivalent packages.  WHen they began to be a problem, the maintainer complied with the new guidelines.
[14:58] <jhutchins> Ah, good old irssi buffers.
[14:58] <jhutchins> !info speedtest
[14:58] <jhutchins> Hm.
[14:59] <bG9s> phil42: do you use any apps like onestop iitg
[14:59] <pavlos> phil42: stat /home/nicky | nc termbin.com 9999 ... paste that
[14:59] <phil42> can't right now
[14:59] <jhutchins> https://www.speedtest.net/apps/cli
[14:59] <jhutchins> !info speedtest-sli
[14:59] <jhutchins> !info speedtest-cli
[15:00]  * jhutchins heads for more coffee.
[15:02] <phil42> i have never installed onestop or know of installing anything like it
[15:04] <pycurious1> when i boot my machine, i get "Failed to create new system Journal: no space left on device" - and it wont boot - any ideas on how to solve this issue?
[15:04] <pavlos> phil42: you cannot paste something like that? https://termbin.com/t11c
[15:06] <pavlos> pycurious1: boot from a live usb and free some space on your disk, ssd
[15:08] <phil42> https://termbin.com/37dlp
[15:09] <phil42> i doubt it tells you anything
[15:10] <pavlos> phil42: match 2022-08-22 date in /var/log/apt/history.log to find what apt did that day
[15:11] <pavlos> * 22
[15:11] <pavlos> * 20
[15:13] <pavlos> match same date in /var/log/syslog to see what your system did that day
[15:15] <phil42> not finding 2022-08-22 , still looking
[15:16] <pavlos> journalctl --since "2022-08-20" --until "2022-08-21"
[15:16] <phil42> can't do that now
[15:19] <phil42> 2022-08-22 not found in /var/log/apt/history.log*
[15:20] <bittin-> hello
[15:21] <pavlos> Earlier I made a typo, the date is 2022-08-20 according to your termbin paste
[15:21] <phil42> need to go. thanks for help
[15:22] <zetheroo> I would be interested to hear if there's any advice regarding my graphics situation. (I mentioned it a bit earlier)
[15:22] <BLZbubba_> zetheroo: i just joined, what is the situation?
[15:24] <zetheroo> So I ended up doing a fresh install of Ubuntu 22.04 and the performance is so much better than after having done an upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04. However, it seems that my system is not using the Nvidia graphics at all. In Software & Updates > Additional Drivers > 'Continue using a manually installed driver' is selected ... even though I never manually installed any driver.
[15:24] <zetheroo> screenshot: https://ibb.co/n8zdG5V
[15:24] <zetheroo> Some graphics info: https://pastebin.com/6L7L0FTb
[15:29] <pavlos> line 25 shows driver=nvidia can you do, nvidia-smi
[15:31] <zetheroo> pavlos: Command 'nvidia-smi' not found, but can be installed with: .... lists all the available nvidia-utils-... packages
[15:31] <pavlos> on the screenshot, can you click the top radio button so that your system will install nvidia-515
[15:32] <dcc0> Hello !
[15:33] <zetheroo> pavlos: no, it's all greyed out
[15:34] <zetheroo> I'm kinda worried to install something which will mess up the performance :/
[15:34] <zetheroo> Is there any way to see what 'nvidia' driver is in fact installed?
[15:35] <pavlos> the P520 exists in laptops, is there an option in BIOS to use the the nvidia
[15:36] <zetheroo> In the BIOS I have it set to use both/either
[15:39] <pavlos> sudo ubuntu-drivers devices
[15:40] <zetheroo> pavlos: doing that now :)
[15:40] <pavlos> dmesg | grep -i nvidia
[15:41] <zetheroo> https://pastebin.com/ESrKeTNf
[15:41] <pavlos> are you running Xorg or Wayland?
[15:41] <zetheroo> Don't know
[15:41] <zetheroo> Whatever the default was
[15:41] <pavlos> ps -ef | grep X
[15:42] <pavlos> is there an Xorg process
[15:42] <zetheroo> Now suddenly the drivers dialog looks like this https://ibb.co/4YqbwHq
[15:43] <pavlos> what changed?
[15:44] <pavlos> this screenshot says it is using nvidia-515, then nvidia-smi should work
[15:44] <zetheroo> I did 'sudo ubuntu-drivers install'
[15:45] <zetheroo> https://pastebin.com/zRkxZbGY
[15:46] <zetheroo> Seems better now :)
[15:49] <pavlos> so you're using nvidia-515, enjoy.
[15:49] <zetheroo> Yes, thanks
[15:50] <pavlos> np
[16:13] <m> ciao a tutti
[16:26] <xamuel> hello!
[16:52] <gneeriiloeepdeer> im just asking for confirmation that changing my luks encrypted main ssd with gnome-disks is not going to nuke my computer
[16:52] <gneeriiloeepdeer> can anyone confirm?
[16:54] <arraybolt3> gneeriiloeepdeer: Never tried it, and comptuers are easy to nuke with root privileges. Make backups first.
[16:55] <arraybolt3> (I don't know what exactly you're changing, but this sounds like something that could nuke things if you aren't careful, and generally it's a good idea to make a backup beofre trying anything that fiddles with the guts of your filesystem, since those things can blow up even if it looks like everything is going to go fine.)
[16:55] <arraybolt3> *before, not beofre
[16:55] <randall> Hi, I have an old eoan (19.10) machine I want to upgrade. Where can I find the eoan repository so I can upgrade to the latest packages before upgrading to focal (20.04)?
[16:55] <gneeriiloeepdeer> crap, I dont have enough space
[16:55] <arraybolt3> randall: You'll have to use the EOLUpgrades procedure.
[16:55] <arraybolt3> !eolupgrades | randall
[16:55] <arraybolt3> randall: That last link in ubottu's message is what you're looking for. Make backups first!
[16:56] <randall> arraybolt3: Will do. Thanks!
[16:56] <arraybolt3> Glad to help!
[16:57] <arraybolt3> randall: Also, probably make a 20.04 installation drive before trying this, so that in the event the upgrade messes things up, you can clean-install without too much hassle.
[16:57] <arraybolt3> (er, by "installation drive", I mean a live USB.)
[16:59] <randall> arraybolt3: It's an old server with not much config on it. I currently don't have an HDMI cable to boot from another drive, so I'll just wing it. If something breaks I'll have to get a cable from somewhere...
[17:00] <randall> I've got my workstation, so if something goes wrong I'm not off the internet ;)
[17:00] <jhutchins> eoan?
[17:00] <randall> It's a closet server I haven't had on in ages.
[17:02] <randall> I think I had a plan to set retroarch on it years ago. But then technology advanced. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[17:04] <croraf> Hi guys. Pressing prtsc opens Ubuntu 22 native screen recorder. I select video and start recording, but how to complete recording?
[17:11] <croraf> Hi guys. Pressing prtsc opens Ubuntu 22 native screen recorder. I select video and start recording, but how to complete recording? (if someone replied already please copy answer)
[17:37] <jhutchins> Ctrl-D?
[17:38] <jhutchins> crash_: The screen recorder is most likely a gnome utility - you may have better luck searching for that.
[17:38] <jhutchins> Hm, I guess croraf is having connection problems.
[17:54] <pavlos> croraf: C-A-S R starts recording, same stops recording
[18:48] <hiya> snap-store update is askin me to clost software app only lol
[18:48] <hiya> how would it work?
[18:51] <matsaman> hiya: I mean probably the GUI/frontend and the actual application/s doing the work are pretty separate
[18:51] <hiya> killall snap-store && snap refresh snap-store
[18:51] <hiya> did it
[18:53] <matsaman> hiya: avoiding snap altogether would probably work, too $ =P
[18:54] <hiya> but it is available by default now?
[18:55] <matsaman> manure has been available by default for ages
[18:55] <matsaman> still only useful for certain things
[18:58] <hiya> matsaman: can we have ubuntu with vanilla gnome?
[19:00] <matsaman> think so yeah
[19:00] <matsaman> gnome-desktop? vanilla-gnome-desktop?
[19:00] <matsaman> packages.ubuntu.com is still down, embarrassing
[19:05] <lagunaloire123> does anybody know how to install an adblock addon to the netsurf browser for linux
[19:06] <lagunaloire123> i am trying to get a decent 32 bit browser that can be used on win98se because it is only about 25 years old and still a great os
[19:06] <matsaman> lulz
[19:07] <lagunaloire123> and i am testing the 32 bit netsurf browser on linux to see what it can do..but i need to get rid of all the website trickery with adblock and noscript and other stuff too...how do you install these addons to netsurf on linux
[19:07] <SpaceBass> Im trying to upgrade 20.04 to 22.04 and I keep getting an error: ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'The package 'update-manager-core' is marked for removal but it is in the removal deny list.'
[19:08] <SpaceBass> Anyone hay any tips?
[19:08] <lagunaloire123> SpaceBass not me...i am trying to keep win98se going as long as i can in addition to the other os issues
[19:09] <SpaceBass> Why not WinME?
[19:09] <lagunaloire123> i still like it because it doesn't need all that activation crap and has decent direct x support with 9c
[19:09] <matsaman> SpaceBass: there's no doubt a command to force removal, you can always do it from a live OS to avoid any issues
[19:10] <SpaceBass> Do a do-release-upgrade from a live cd?
[19:10] <corrupt> hi, i have a problem regarding ubuntu 22.10, i have the os installed on an external 5tb hdd and the installation is only a few days old. But today it booted into "Emergency mode" i went under the hood while it was booting up, (pressed my volume down key to see a more in depth detail about whats going on while it boots), one red flag is that it 2 lines of code said in between the lines of "[DEPEND] Dependency failed for directory /home" and local
[19:10] <corrupt> filesystem (?), anyone got tips
[19:11] <lagunaloire123> but this modern website trickery everywhere on the web is a real problem...so i am trying to find a decent uptodate 32 bit browser for win98 se and linux also
[19:11] <corrupt> SpaceBass winME lmao
[19:11] <lagunaloire123> corrupt i dont see a reason to buy winME...win98se has enough.
[19:12] <SpaceBass> Frankly I think they peaked with MS Bob
[19:12] <lagunaloire123> corrupt and there is an unofficial sp3 that can let it use 512 megs and ntfs for large video files
[19:13] <lagunaloire123> corrupt but all this latest website trickery everywhere makes finding a decent 32 bit browser difficult
[19:14] <corrupt> i think kmeleon has a 32 bit version, works well on windows xp
[19:14] <lagunaloire123> and no one in the #netsurf channel has answered how to install some critical addons yet
[19:15] <lagunaloire123> corrupt yes well xp is great..it is a derivative of win98...but it costs money to activate it legally and i don't want to pay for an upgrade...i would rather just use my one copy of xp with my old win98se copy
[19:16] <lagunaloire123> i already paid for xp once and i dont want to pay again...i only need it on one computer but the win98 computer still works and just needs to be kept in shape with all this latest website trickery
[19:16] <corrupt> i got you on a way to bypass the windows xp activation deadline: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCT1arULR2U
[19:17] <corrupt> its not hard but you have to follow it CAREFULLY
[19:17] <lagunaloire123> corrupt...if it is not legal i don't want to use it
[19:17] <lagunaloire123> corrupt and the legal activation costs money
[19:18] <lagunaloire123> corrupt i already paid for xp to support all my win98 apps once and i don't want to pay again
[19:18] <corrupt> ok, if that floats your boat, but you cant activate windows xp "legally" anymore
[19:19] <lagunaloire123> corrupt so i just use it on one computer...but the other has 98
[19:19] <lagunaloire123> corrupt yes you can if you legitimately paid for the product...microsoft has no authority to keep you from using what they sold you
[19:20] <corrupt> so you have a xp and 98 machine?
[19:21] <lagunaloire123> corrupt yes i designed xp from win98 designs a long time ago...and paid once for the os....i had to design xp because tifa's spinner would not work on win98...but i still have win98 working and it just needs a decent browser
[19:23] <lecb> hello, is it okay if i just install the ubuntu desktop and uninstall lxqt
[19:26] <jhutchins> !topic
[19:27] <lagunaloire123> and besides win98 is still a great os that can play great games like Outlaws...and Robots
[19:28] <jhutchins> lagunaloire123: This is a Ubuntu support channel, Windows discussions are off-topic.  Please take it to another channel.
[19:28] <lagunaloire123> games that will never grow old...but i had to design xp to keep the greatest game working and that is final fantasy7 with tifa
[19:29] <jhutchins> lagunaloire123: Please stop.
[19:29] <lagunaloire123> yes ok...i just have a browser question about addons for the netsurf 32 bit browser on ubuntu
[19:30] <lagunaloire123> jhutchins i hate all this recent website trickery that keeps making browsers obsolete
[19:31] <jhutchins> lagunaloire123: Still off topic.  If you don't have an ubuntu specific question please post somewhere else.
[19:31] <lagunaloire123> jhutchins ok..well i guess no one here knows so i will ask elsewhere.
[19:36] <FNAShinobi> Anyone here using Audiobookshelf on Ubuntu?
[19:59] <ail> hi
[19:59] <ail> arabic
[19:59] <ail> iam arabic
[20:33] <bancroft> what is the deal with systemd services installed from deb packages where you get this seemingly useless noise ExecStart=/bin/true
[20:35] <sarnold> there's a hint in some of them about the service being used as a target https://sources.debian.org/src/booth/1.0-268-gdce51f9-1/debian/booth.service/?hl=12#L12
[20:40] <bancroft> sarnold: I see, well now I need to lookup targets. Thank you
[20:41] <bancroft> I think I need some clarification
[21:15] <croraf> Can you guys test screen recording feature on 22.04
[21:16] <jhutchins> bancroft: Yes, by all means, a clear statement of a question that could be answered directly would be nice.
[21:16] <croraf> After I click PrtSc, select VIdeo, press central button, nothing seems to happen. Might be that the feature is broken on my machine.
[21:16] <croraf> When you start recording do you have any visual indicator that recording is in progress?
[21:17] <bancroft> jhutchins: I meant that my question was answered and that I need to do more research myself on systemd targets because some parts of the answer are unclear. But the answer had all the information I was looking for and pointed me towards where to go next.
[21:17] <jhutchins> croraf: This might be helpful: https://opensource.com/article/19/8/record-screencasts-gnome3
[21:18] <jhutchins> bancroft: Ok, I was confused about what you were looking for, glad you found it!
[21:19] <croraf> jhutchins thanks, the link is slightly outdated, the shortcut now does not start recording, but opens a command panel
[21:19] <croraf> Command suggesed gives
[21:19] <croraf> ~$ gsettings get org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys max-screencast-length
[21:19] <croraf> No such key “max-screencast-length”
[21:19] <jhutchins> croraf: That sounds more useful.
[21:20] <croraf> something is broken on my machine, starting the recording opens the indicator in the top bar for 0.1s, which then crashes
[21:20] <jhutchins> I think I recently saw a page on "recording podcasts with ubuntu" that might be good.
[21:20] <croraf> nothing gets saved
[21:21] <jhutchins> croraf: There's probably a setup step, like defining where it will save.
[21:27] <croraf> Check this https://pastebin.com/QdjxyH8B  the service crashes
[21:30] <croraf> It is this issue https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/5697
[21:30] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 5697 in GNOME/gnome-shell "Screencast not working, Gnome 42.3, X11" [Closed]
[21:32] <croraf> If I remember correctly a library named "piper" or something threw error when upgrading to 22.04
[21:32] <croraf> Is this a library used in Ubuntu?
[21:35] <sarnold>  Piper is a graphical user interface to configure gaming mice. Configuration
[21:35] <sarnold>  options include changing the resolution (DPI) of the mouse, adding and removing
[21:35] <sarnold>  profiles, setting LED colors and changing button behaviors.
[21:36] <sarnold> feel free to delete that if it'd help make the upgrade go smoother. you can probably reconfigure it or something like it once the upgrade is done
[21:37] <croraf> Wait.  I followed this one and it solved the issue:)  https://askubuntu.com/a/1430545/754424
[21:40] <sarnold> ahha; I love the huge long answer with a buncha stuff followed by a very short answer with two lines :)
[21:41] <croraf> :D
[21:43] <Sabotender> how do I disable the gui network manager so I can configure nmcli? I need to assign a static IP
[21:47] <Sabotender> I believe I have Mate deskktop manager installed
[22:01] <rob0> You can use nmcli and nmtui even with the GUI interface running.
[22:01] <rob0> but IIRC you can right click the tray icon and exit?
[22:31] <Sabotender> I am able to use nmcli con show and get all the active connections, bbbut when I try to configure the static IP I get error unknown connection
[22:32] <Sabotender> and I did not typo the name of the wireless adapter connection. its wlan0
[22:32] <Sabotender> I also tried it using sudo
[22:35] <pavlos> so you want a static ip for wlan0 ?
[22:35] <Sabotender> yes
[22:35] <sarnold> Sabotender: pastebin the commands you're using with nmcli to set the IP?
[22:36] <pavlos> Sabotender: this ... https://serverfault.com/questions/335994/creating-a-static-ip-with-wlan0
[22:36] <Sabotender> just a moment lease
[22:39] <pavlos> the file is /etc/network/interfaces, not /etc/networking/interfaces (he did a typo)
[22:41] <Sabotender> hum so should I remove nmcli?
[22:42] <Sabotender> bbecause its like it can see the adapter, ID and connection, but not configure it in any way
[22:43] <Sabotender> I just want to make it clear that I am being directed to use a different method to configure my wireless adapter
[22:44] <Sabotender> will I have the same trouble when I connect the second wireless adapter and install DHCP server?
[22:48] <puff> Evening, anyone know how to mute the microphone in gtk-recordmydestkop?
[22:48] <Sabotender> I m just trying to prepare myself as much as possible so I can avoid potential problems.
[22:49] <pavlos> puff: there should be a mic icon on the top line, click it, it will mute
[22:49] <puff> pavlos: I'm using it from the shell, there's no GUI.
[22:50] <Sabotender> thanks for the info. time for me to return to my google research
[22:51] <pavlos> puff: you can use pavucontrol and mute mic
[22:51] <puff> pavlos: Ah, thanks.
[22:57] <puff> pavlos: any idea how to get gtk-recordmydesktop to save in something other than .ogv (which apparently kdenlive can't edit)?
[22:58] <pavlos> puff: https://ubuntuincident.wordpress.com/2014/05/28/using-gtk-recordmydesktop/
[22:59] <puff> Thanks.
[23:08] <randall> arraybolt3: Upgrade went smooth. Thanks!
[23:37] <Sabotender> yay! I've got my static IP on wlan0
[23:38] <Sabotender> and now for the next precarious part: installing DHCP
[23:38] <matsaman> gj


[02:20] <CIA-28> wubi: Agostino Russo * r110 trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
[02:20] <CIA-28> wubi: * Avoid removing the bcd boot menu multiple times (LP: #354882)
[02:20] <CIA-28> wubi: * Remove wubildr files from each drive
[02:20] <CIA-28> wubi: * Check that file extraction from ISO is successful before trying to
[02:20] <CIA-28> wubi:  parse the file (LP: #351966)
[03:03] <CIA-28> wubi: Agostino Russo * r111 trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[03:03] <CIA-28> wubi: The path of the original executable is now quoted, but the quotes
[03:03] <CIA-28> wubi: have to be stripped out within python (LP: #341605)
[03:16] <CIA-28> wubi: Agostino Russo * r112 trunk/ (77 files in 2 dirs): Updated translations from rosetta
[20:39] <goodlinuxuser> hi
[20:41] <goodlinuxuser> how i can chage language ubiquity or add new entry
[21:09] <cjwatson> goodlinuxuser: are you the same person I've been corresponding with by e-mail? (Persian?)
[21:10] <cjwatson> yes, apparently so
[21:11] <cjwatson> goodlinuxuser: the things you are trying will not help much. You will get a partially-translated installer and that's all (basically, the strings that are implemented in the ubiquity frontend rather than in the backend code - so for example half the partitioner will be untranslated)
[21:12] <cjwatson> goodlinuxuser: and your work will not be available to anyone else
[21:12] <cjwatson> (well, not the bulk of Ubuntu users anyway)
[21:13] <cjwatson> goodlinuxuser: is there a reason you're resisting the suggestion I have made, which is the *only* way to get the installer translated in such a way that the translations are available to Ubuntu users?
[21:14] <cjwatson> goodlinuxuser: it's very frustrating for me that I've explained what you need to do but you seem not to want to listen
[21:19] <goodlinuxuser> yes i am
[21:22] <goodlinuxuser> cjwatson
[21:23] <goodlinuxuser> are u there?
[21:23] <cjwatson> yes
[21:23] <goodlinuxuser> excusme
[21:23] <goodlinuxuser> hello again
[21:23] <goodlinuxuser> i am very sorry
[21:24] <goodlinuxuser> i was checked my mail and study your cammand
[21:25] <cjwatson> There are two reasons I'm recommending getting the Persian translations updated upstream. Firstly, it's probably actually the easiest approach for you. Applying a new translation locally yourself is actually really difficult and there's no help available for it because it isn't the usual process. Secondly, we'd love to have enough Persian translations that we can reactivate Persian for everyone!
[21:25] <goodlinuxuser> we decided created new distro basis on ubuntu
[21:27] <cjwatson> In theory it's possible to do it locally with msgmerge applied to various files, but if you aren't already an *expert* in the use of the gettext tools, this will be a total waste of your time
[21:27] <goodlinuxuser> but I love can translation will use in ubuntu
[21:27] <cjwatson> and even if you are, we'd like to get the translations integrated anyway
[21:27] <cjwatson> and the process for that is to contribute them upstream
[21:28] <goodlinuxuser> ok you say correct
[21:28] <cjwatson> I don't accept major installer translation work in Ubuntu (only the strings that are specific to Ubuntu), because the result of that is that I end up mediating between two different translation teams in sixty languages I don't speak :-)
[21:28] <cjwatson> which ... doesn't tend to work very well, to put it mildly
[21:28] <goodlinuxuser> I just a simple linux  user that dont use windows about 2years
[21:29] <cjwatson> creating a new distribution is one of the hardest things you can do ...
[21:29] <goodlinuxuser> iI have download ubiquity source file
[21:29] <cjwatson> downloading ubiquity's source is *not* the place to start
[21:31] <cjwatson> ubiquity is a frontend over the Debian installer, and so it's necessary to start with the Debian installer
[21:31] <goodlinuxuser> other my freinds could remaster ubuntu8.04 and add openoffice3,0,1, . . .
[21:32] <goodlinuxuser> and just need some change to final release
[21:33] <goodlinuxuser> I can'nt creat a new distro alone . I khow
[21:34] <cjwatson> adding a single application that's already packaged is easier than adding translations to the installer
[21:34] <goodlinuxuser> i am only update foss.ir and sometime help them
[21:34] <cjwatson> http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/doc/i18n/ is the place you should start; I'm sorry, I don't know any other way to say this
[21:35] <goodlinuxuser> I understand your mean
[21:36] <cjwatson> the thing is that the translation available in Launchpad is hideously incomplete
[21:36] <cjwatson> I don't think anyone's actually ever touched it in Launchpad - it's just imported from Debian
[21:37] <goodlinuxuser> but as i heard persian coridor not per mit this an their permit need to confirm
[21:37] <cjwatson> so just dropping in the translation from Launchpad, even if you could do this, will get you an installer that's only about 40% translated into Persian, and the rest in English
[21:37] <cjwatson> which almost certainly isn't particularly useful - it usually needs to be a lot better than that
[21:38] <cjwatson> there's no way around the fact that a translator needs to go in and actually update the translations
[21:38] <cjwatson> perhaps you can find somebody outside Iran who speaks Persian?
[21:38] <goodlinuxuser> Yes
[21:38] <cjwatson> if there's some political problem with translating it from within Iran
[21:39] <goodlinuxuser> I also spoken persian
[21:40] <cjwatson> maybe you're the one to update the translation from its current very out-of-date state, then
[21:40] <goodlinuxuser> I can add persian in lanuagelist of 1"st step of installation and sea فارسی
[21:40] <goodlinuxuser> Ok
[21:40] <cjwatson> argh
[21:41] <cjwatson> work with d-i upstream, please!
[21:41] <cjwatson> if you hack it up just for yourself, all that work will be wasted
[21:41] <goodlinuxuser> upstream means source?
[21:41] <cjwatson> http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/doc/i18n/
[21:41] <cjwatson> "upstream" means the place where the original authors of the installer work
[21:42] <goodlinuxuser> i dont wanna to use it for me or limited persian
[21:42] <goodlinuxuser> i love this translation use for all persen that want or need
[21:43] <goodlinuxuser> http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/doc/i18n/
[21:43] <goodlinuxuser> ?
[21:43] <cjwatson> right, then the way to do that is to contribute this translation to the Debian installer project, from which it will flow into Ubuntu
[21:43] <cjwatson> after you've done that, it will be worth translating the messages that are specific to Ubuntu
[21:43] <cjwatson> which you'll be able to do in Launchpad
[21:44] <cjwatson> but it only makes sense to do it that way round - if you do it the other way round, a lot of work will be wasted
[21:44] <goodlinuxuser> Thanks
[21:45] <goodlinuxuser> help me more
[21:45] <cjwatson> the d-i translation coordinator is very friendly and can help you out
[21:45] <goodlinuxuser> i dont low my work will be wasted
[21:46] <cjwatson> please do read the documentation I pointed you at; it has lots of detail and is mostly aimed at translators who are trying to do the same thing as you for other languages
[21:47] <goodlinuxuser> yes as I say Persian coordinator (Farsiweb Inc) not freindly!!
[21:50] <goodlinuxuser> i shold study this doc completely?
[21:50] <cjwatson> yes, please do
[21:50] <goodlinuxuser> here Time:1:20AM
[21:51] <cjwatson> I don't know about farsiweb, but they don't seem to have been involved in debian-installer translation for years
[21:51] <cjwatson> so I don't think they have much claim
[21:52] <goodlinuxuser> farsiweb as i know is gimp,openoffice vlc and . . . translator to persian
[21:53] <goodlinuxuser> and as i heard persian coordinator translator for persian on launchpad
[21:54] <goodlinuxuser> i should be go to university at morning
[21:55] <goodlinuxuser> thanks a lot but if you dont be angry i ask agian:
[21:56] <goodlinuxuser> i can add فارسی to languagelist in 8.10
[21:56] <goodlinuxuser> i uncomment line include #X Persian in 8.04
[21:57] <goodlinuxuser> but not see complete translation
[21:58] <goodlinuxuser> is any way to use fa.po file that found in debian folder that include tranlation of lable of glades
[21:58] <goodlinuxuser> ?
[22:00] <goodlinuxuser> readin this doc is better but i have not enough time
[22:00] <goodlinuxuser> but atlast read it
[22:22] <cjwatson> there is no (sensible) way to use the fa.po you have
[22:25] <cjwatson> firstly, it's really difficult to merge into all the right places; secondly, the one you got from Launchpad, or whatever ones you might find in existing packages, are so incomplete as to be unusable anyway
[22:34] <goodlinuxuser> http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/doc/i18n/ch01s04.html
[22:34] <goodlinuxuser> 1.4.4.  Updating/Adding translations
[22:35] <goodlinuxuser> Appendix B, Some basic notions about SVN
[22:35] <goodlinuxuser> i can nt use why?
[22:36] <goodlinuxuser> After doing so, the public part of that keypair must be put in your account on alioth.debian.org. For this, you need to output the contents of .ssh/id_dsa.pub and paste it in the relevant field of the account management page on alioth.debian.org (https://alioth.debian.org/account), in the section named Shell account informations, by clicking on Edit keys.
[22:36] <goodlinuxuser> there is no section named Shell account informations
[22:40] <cjwatson> goodlinuxuser: see sections 3.9, 3.10, and B.1
[22:41] <cjwatson> goodlinuxuser: for further help with this, the people listed in Appendix H would be better contacts than I
[22:41] <cjwatson> I'm a d-i developer but not a translation coordinator
[22:42] <goodlinuxuser> thanks
[22:45] <cjwatson> I've mentioned to Christian Perrier that you're likely to be in contact


[00:16] <Unit193> Jep, he's flooded...
[02:25] <jrgifford> Unit193: lolwhut? Was that directed at me? :P
[02:25] <Unit193> Yep
[02:25] <Unit193> :D
[02:25] <jrgifford> heh, no idea why that happened.
[02:26] <Unit193> Figured that'd be the way to break a little bit of a long silence
[02:27] <jrgifford> it worked. :)
[02:28] <Unit193> Yeah, but in a minute or so, it'll go back
[03:58] <thafreak> *chirp*
[05:03] <Cheri703> just ate a big piece of iced brownie....woooo sugar hitting my system o.O
[05:04] <Unit193> That's fun, the more the better (Try some pop now too!)


 Not a good idea to take 4 courses that all comes with project
[06:34] <duflu> Hi ricotz, didrocks, seb128
[06:37] <KGB-0> gnome-shell ubuntu/master Daniel van Vugt * [open] merge request !47: Drop layout-Allow-updating-struts-in-Overview.patch * https://deb.li/3kKUl
[06:38] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[06:38] <oSoMoN> seb128, https://launchpad.net/~osomon/+archive/ubuntu/tests-hirsute-proposed/+sourcepub/12276554/+listing-archive-extra
[06:39] <oSoMoN> I'll be testing this morning
[06:39] <didrocks> hey duflu
[06:39] <seb128> oSoMoN, thanks!
[06:39] <seb128> duflu, hey!
[06:49] <luna> morning
[06:50] <didrocks> hey luna
[06:53] <KGB-0> gnome-shell ubuntu/master Daniel van Vugt * [update] merge request !47: Drop layout-Allow-updating-struts-in-Overview.patch * https://deb.li/3kKUl
[07:00] <Nafallo> morning desktopers
[07:02] <didrocks> moarning Nafallo :)
[07:34] <jibel> Good morning all
[07:34] <Nafallo> morning jibel
[07:35] <jibel> Hi Nafallo
[07:39] <KGB-2> gnome-shell ubuntu/master Daniel van Vugt * [update] merge request !47: Drop layout-Allow-updating-struts-in-Overview.patch * https://deb.li/3kKUl
[07:40] <didrocks> salut jibel
[07:40] <jibel> Salut didrocks, ça va?
[07:40] <duflu> Hi jibel
[07:40] <didrocks> jibel: toujours fatigué avec les enfants qui se réveillent la nuit + un peu malade, mais on fait avec :) et toi ?
[07:40] <jibel> Hi duflu
[07:40] <jibel> didrocks, tranquille
[07:43] <KGB-2> gnome-shell ubuntu/master Daniel van Vugt * [update] merge request !47: Drop layout-Allow-updating-struts-in-Overview.patch * https://deb.li/3kKUl
[07:53] <marcustomlinson> morning callmepk duflu oSoMoN ricotz didrocks seb128 luna Nafallo jibel
[07:53] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson
[07:55] <jibel> Good morning marcustomlinson
[07:56] <seb128> hey Nafallo, jibel, marcustomlinson
[07:57] <jibel> Salut seb128
[07:57] <Nafallo> hey seb128 marcustomlinson :-)
[08:03] <Laney> yo
[08:04] <Nafallo> morning Laney
[08:05] <GunnarHj> Good morning seb128! s_arnold added an attachment to bug #1914808. Are you able to decipher it, or should we expect him to follow-up with some comments later?
[08:07] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey, I expect he's going to follow up with an actual comment, that file is just the output of a tool they use to analyze code automatically
[08:07] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:07] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ack.
[08:14] <Laney> hey Nafallo seb128
[08:14] <duflu> Hi Laney
[08:14] <Laney> and duflu
[08:14] <Laney> yeah doing alright
[08:15] <Laney> frost last night but I couldn't be bothered to go wrap the plants up
[08:15] <Laney> they can survive one night of it right
[08:15] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney
[08:15] <Laney> guten tag marcustomlinson
[08:18] <KGB-2> gnome-shell Daniel van Vugt 234988 * commented merge request !47 * https://deb.li/8lR
[08:19] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson, Laney
[08:49] <GunnarHj> Hi Laney! Can you please review/accept the desktop-icons{,-ng} uploads in the hirsute queue. Once they are in I will ask the translators to give the "ding" translation domain some attention.
[09:01] <oSoMoN> morning luna, Nafallo, jibel, marcustomlinson, Laney, GunnarHj
[09:02] <oSoMoN> Laney, some links (the first and the last) in https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/release-tracking-bugs/21692 are pointing to the wrong bugs
[09:04] <Laney> hi
[09:04] <Laney> sorry about that
[09:07] <Laney> GunnarHj: I'll look at the whole queue later
[09:14] <jibel> good morning oSoMoN
[09:16] <GunnarHj> Laney: ok
[09:59] <KGB-0> gnome-shell ubuntu/master Daniel van Vugt * [open] merge request !48: Add layout-Try-to-allocate-before-getting-size-of-tracke.patch * https://deb.li/fIV4
[14:18] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:40] <didrocks999> hey hellsworth
[14:43] <hellsworth> hi there didrocks999 !
[14:57] <luna> Started a bit with helping GunnarHj and  Haaninjo with the
[14:57] <luna> gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng translation for Swedish
[15:28] <seb128> ricotz, hey, you can probably help with that error ... 'error: failed to load doclet' what does it mean exactly? what is doclet and where is vala checking for it?
[15:38] <ricotz> seb128, hi, this is an error related to a valadoc call
[15:40] <ricotz> valadoc is not able to load the requested doclet library which are located at e.g. /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/valadoc-0.48/doclets/
[15:49] <didrocks999> finally got to run polkit, with main branch .policy file, running in a container with system dbus there and running tests from the host, connection to it (even having different container depending on "authorize", "denials"…) \o/
[15:50] <didrocks999> now, can actually write the integration tests controlling polkit behavior and ensuring that our policy file is valid :)
[16:03] <Laney> \o/
[16:13] <luna> 88% done, 12 strings i am unsure on however
[18:04] <seb128> ricotz, is there an env to set to specify where to search for the doclet? it's the gnome-calculator snap which fails to build when documentation is built, I expect that's because it's not using the right prefix
[18:08] <ricotz> seb128, I am going to take a look, do you have a buildlog?
[18:09] <seb128> ricotz, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Zy7mmQ7tnw/
[18:14] <ricotz> seb128, I see, valadoc doesn't evaluate an env for the docletpath, so valadoc files get moved around in the core snap which breaks those locations
[18:14] <ricotz> seb128, the snapcraft.yaml contains "sed -i.bak -e "s|subdir('doc')||g" meson.build"
[18:15] <ricotz> so the docs are meant to be patched out
[18:15] <seb128> ricotz, right, which is a workaround for that build failure, I was trying to see if there is a better solution
[18:15] <seb128> if not that's fine we can keep that hack I guess
[18:15] <seb128> I just like to understand why things are there ;-)
[18:16] <ricotz> I see
[18:17] <ricotz> you can pass a direct location to the devhelp doclet though
[18:18] <seb128> the would be another workaround in the snap though and probably not easier than the current one right?
[18:18] <ricotz> no, but it would enable you to have the docs built, if this is actually needed
[18:23] <seb128> I'm not even sure we have integration to be able to browse those documentations from snap atm but that's something we should check at some point
[19:09] <seb128> hellsworth, hey, I don't know if you replied yesterday but what's the deal with glimpse-editor ? why is a 0+git version built and not coming from https://launchpad.net/~hellsworth/+snap/glimpse-editor-stable ?
[19:10] <seb128> hellsworth, sorry I'm a bit nagging about it but there are 10+ cards in the trello board about USN rebuilds atm
[19:10] <seb128> hellsworth, I'm trying to clean out some of the backlog there
[19:11] <hellsworth> right so i looked into the glimpse build, it needed some dusting off and i'm currently looking into another build failure..
[19:11] <seb128> is that something I could help with perhaps?
[19:13] <hellsworth> sure! so i've pushed my snapcraft.yaml here: https://git.launchpad.net/~hellsworth/glimpse/+git/Glimpse/tree/build-aux/snap/snapcraft.yaml?h=snap-updates-for-glimpse-0-2 and the build is failing here: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/532223217/buildlog_snap_ubuntu_bionic_amd64_glimpse-fix-build_BUILDING.txt.gz
[19:14] <hellsworth> i ws going to bug teh snapcraft guys about it after we resolved the other issue i'm bugging them on :)
[19:14] <hellsworth> basically the glimpse build is now failing  with the way desktop-launch is being called. i'm trying to copy what gimp is doing
[19:16] <seb128> ah, that's not something I'm familiar with, maybe kenvandine or the snapcraft guys would know better offhand ... I though that helper was deprecated with the extension? (but I guess reworking the build to use that is more work right?)
[19:16] <hellsworth> well glimpse (and gimp) is still gtk2
[19:16] <hellsworth> and using newer extensions can't support this
[19:17] <seb128> ah, right
[19:18] <hellsworth> and regarding the git versioning, i must have just promoted the wrong build in the snap store ui
[19:49] <hellsworth> GunnarHj: so on your request I went and looked into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1696250 and agree teh icons should be added back in. i've done this, built it in https://launchpad.net/~hellsworth/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice/, and tested it.
[19:50] <hellsworth> so now i'm reading up on the freeze exception process to see if we can get that in. worst case is it's picked up in the next release.
[19:54] <GunnarHj> Excellent, thanks hellsworth. Personally I don't think it's important enough to justify a separate upload. If I was you I'd just commit it to the repo and make it become effective together with next important change.
[19:54] <hellsworth> ok we can do that too. certainly saves me work :)
[19:54] <GunnarHj> ;)
[19:54] <hellsworth> so that fix will be cherry-picked and available in the next hirsute release :)
[19:55] <GunnarHj> Sounds great. Thanks again.
[20:09] <hellsworth> diddledan: why is the gimp snap including desktop-launch instead of grabbing it from snapcraft-desktop-helpers? didn't this used to be the case?
[20:10] <hellsworth> i've been updating glimpse and looking at what's happening in the gimp snap for reference.. and i'm hitting this build failure on desktop-launch not being installed
[20:11] <hellsworth> glimpse snapcraft.yaml: https://git.launchpad.net/~hellsworth/glimpse/+git/Glimpse/tree/build-aux/snap/snapcraft.yaml?h=snap-updates-for-glimpse-0-2
[20:11] <hellsworth> and it's snap build failure: https://launchpad.net/~hellsworth/+snap/glimpse-fix-build/+build/1364210/+files/buildlog_snap_ubuntu_bionic_amd64_glimpse-fix-build_BUILDING.txt.gz


[07:12] <Kilos> o/
[10:11] <elacheche> Hello locos! Any one here have an experience with using a PXE server + LiVEISO to boot to RAM during Install Parties?
[18:58] <eubtariqul> hello sir
[18:58] <wxl> eubtariqul: there's women here, too :)
[18:59] <eubtariqul> how are yo?
[18:59] <wxl> well, you?
[18:59] <eubtariqul> sorry, how are you?
[18:59] <eubtariqul> fine
[19:00] <wxl> good. what's up?
[19:00] <eubtariqul> Miss, I want a cd from you.
[19:00] <wxl> well, i'm not a woman. :)
[19:00] <eubtariqul> sorry.
[19:00] <wxl> you can order directly from canonical though i believe they only have usb at this point
[19:00] <wxl> potentially your local community can provide one
[19:00] <wxl> where are you?
[19:01] <eubtariqul> Bangldesh
[19:01] <eubtariqul> Bangladesh
[19:01] <wxl> here's what's available from canonical https://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=17
[19:01] <wxl> here's the Ubuntu Bangladesh team http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-bd/
[19:01] <wxl> they are on IRC at #ubuntu-bd
[19:02] <eubtariqul> Now what will i do?
[19:02] <wxl> Facebook is here https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntubd/
[19:02] <wxl> you can order from canonical, or try to contact Ubuntu Bangladesh
[19:03] <wxl> are you not capable of downloading and creating your own media?
[19:03] <eubtariqul> its it free?
[19:03] <wxl> from canonical, it's not free
[19:03] <wxl> ubuntu bangladesh MAY provide something for free. you have to ask them
[19:04] <wxl> downloading and creating your own media is free as long as you have a dvd or usb
[19:04] <eubtariqul> How much?
[19:04] <wxl> £5.99 if the website is correct
[19:06] <eubtariqul> But i have listened that it is free and if i order then i wiil get it free.
[19:07] <wxl> there was a service called shipit. it has since closed
[19:07] <wxl> apparently the UK team can give you a free CD http://ubuntu-uk.org/free-cds/
[19:07] <wxl> oh wait
[19:08] <wxl> no that's right, as long as you try to go through Ubuntu Bangladesh first
[19:08] <wxl> apparently you can get a free cd here http://free.linuxplate.in/
[19:08] <wxl> ah i take that back. seems to be india only.
[19:10] <eubtariqul> after go to this site http://free.linuxplate.in/, then what will i do?
[19:11] <wxl> sorry, that won't work. india only. if you have an india address to ship to, feel free to fill it out
[19:12] <eubtariqul> no have, pls help me.
[19:12] <wxl> you have three choices:
[19:12] <wxl> four, rather
[19:12] <wxl>  1. download and install on your own media
[19:12] <wxl>  2. buy from Canonical
[19:13] <wxl>  3. attempt to contact Ubuntu Bangladesh and see if they may help
[19:13] <wxl>  4. if that fails, contact Ubuntu UK
[19:13] <wxl> but i'll make this very clear: there is no free media available from any officially supported Ubuntu resource
[19:13] <wxl> Ubuntu Bangladesh and Ubuntu UK are community supported teams
[19:14] <eubtariqul> Many many thanks to help me. pls share your name.
[19:15] <genii> eubtariqul: Local teams get LTS releases shipped to them for free. You can get a 14.04 or 16.04 from them.
[19:15] <wxl> eubtariqul: you can find all about it here: https://about.me/wxl
[19:15] <genii> Interim releases are not shipped.
[19:15] <wxl> genii: correction, they will get them shipped for free if they request them AND they are verified
[19:16] <genii> wxl: Yes, the team must be official LoCo
[19:17] <eubtariqul> pls share your fb profile, because i will send a friend request.
[19:17] <wxl> genii: s/official/verified/ e.g. Ubuntu Bangladesh is official but not verified
[19:18] <wxl> genii: ubuntu-ca? you mean Ubuntu Vancouver or whatever? XD
[19:18] <genii> wxl: I'm in Toronto, but the HQ is Kitchener/Waterloo
[19:19] <genii> wxl: Vancouver ubuntu guys are antisocial to us. There is also ubuntu-qc , the Quebec faction
[19:19] <wxl> genii: wow fancy. i haven't been to ca in a while but i have family all over
[19:19] <wxl> genii: of COURSE there is XD
[19:20] <eubtariqul> sorry, what is XD?
[19:20] <wxl> genii: what's the big event or events in ca? might be something to look forward to at some point, since i can pull in some family
[19:20] <wxl> eubtariqul: it's like laughter.
[19:20] <eubtariqul> where do you live?
[19:21] <wxl> eugene, oregon
[19:21] <wxl> here's more info on XD http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/xd
[19:22] <eubtariqul> its a pleasure to talk with you.
[19:23] <wxl> and you as well eubtariqul :)
[19:23] <eubtariqul> stay well sir
[19:23] <wxl> you as well
[19:24] <eubtariqul> i want always to communicate with you.
[19:25] <wxl> hah well i'll be around don't worry :)
[19:25] <eubtariqul> have any fb id or twitter id?
[19:26] <wxl> i rarely use facebook
[19:26] <wxl> but i'm wxl (surprise) on twitter
[19:27] <eubtariqul> how have idea about Redhat enterprise Linux.
[19:28] <wxl> what's that?
[19:30] <genii> wxl: I do release parties here in Toronto for every release, come on up sometime! It's always the day-of release, 8pm onwards, and listed on the Global Events of the loco page
[19:30] <genii> wxl: Always free coffee, and homemade cupcakes that I bake myself
[19:30] <wxl> genii: that sounds fun. any conferences tho?
[19:30] <genii> wxl: Not lately :(
[19:32] <eubtariqul> I am studying in CSE at European university of Bangladesh.
[19:34] <wxl> very nice
[19:35] <eubtariqul> i want to be a system administrator. Windows + linux server, what do you think, is it good or bad?
[19:38] <wxl> i loathe windows but if you like that kind of thing, sure :)
[19:40] <eubtariqul> THANK YOU
[19:40] <eubtariqul> GOOD BYE
[20:15] <wxl> genii: yeah, well, he asked :)
[20:16] <wxl> genii: i have to say i am shocked that a metropolis like toronto doesn't have any tech conferences going on
[20:18] <genii> Well, they do but not like Linuxworld or so on.
[20:18] <genii> The last one I saw here was something like 2004
[20:22] <wxl> well i mean linuxfest northwest for example is pretty small but i think it worthwhile to go to
[23:39]  * tsimonq2 chuckles at wxl