[22:49] <drashy> kk_jonti: a new battery? no, I doubt it
[22:49] <drashy> kk_jonti: its probably just some new bug
[22:49] <c7p> thx xD :)
[22:49] <pw-toxic> agruman: how can i get into a console to do some fixes?
[22:49] <kk_jonti> drashy:  i did the cat command
[22:50] <student> is there any good guilds to following what ubuntu is doing in the way of programming standards
[22:50] <joshjtl> hey folks, I have a major bug that causes fatal lockups, and apparently there is a fix for it... add a line to /etc/default/halt file, I did, is there anywhere i can check to see if adding the line does anything at all?
[22:50] <kk_jonti> drashy:  what do you exactly wanted me to look at?
[22:50] <student> guides
[22:50] <agruman> pw-toxid, the easiest ways is live cd and then some mounts and then chroot, very well explained in the fakeraidhowto
[22:50] <drashy> kk_jonti: paste it to the site in the topic and tell me url, I'll have a look
[22:50] <Adyeths> Am I the only one who has experienced both 8.10 and 9.04 locking up?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> joshjtl: if you add the line and reboot and then the system doesnt lockup, its fixed it
[22:51] <LethalArmy> thanks. the virus i got is a variant of the virut virus,a nasty polymorphic one that infects any win exe it can. its killing windows and i have files i cant lose to a format so my hope is ubuntu can give me safe passage for transfer from infected drive to clean one
[22:51] <kk_jonti> drashy: which web site?
[22:51] <Dreamglider> what's a good converter to convert avi's to ipod playable mpg's?
[22:51] <drashy> kk_jonti: the paste one :D
[22:51] <kk_jonti> drashy:  I must tel you I am a totally blind user and my screen reader does not read every thing
[22:51] <coleys> LethalArmy: Let windows diee. :(
[22:51] <dr_willis> Dreamglider:  ffmpeg, winff (gui) can do that
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> LethalArmy: linux can read ntfs natively
[22:51] <dr_willis> Dreamglider:  and proberly others.
[22:51] <drashy> kk_jonti: paste.ubuntu.com
[22:52] <dr_willis> Dreamglider:  winff has settings for ipods I belive.
[22:52] <kk_jonti> drashy: ok
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> LethalArmy: it needs extra stuff to write. you should have a backup if the data is important
[22:52] <kk_jonti> drashy: i will just do it hold on
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: ffmpeg and mencoder
[22:52] <joshjtl> ActionParsnip: yeah, but is there anything in the meantime i can check to see if the line did anything?
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> joshjtl: not sure
[22:53] <dr_willis> Dreamglider:  if you use winff, i noticed in the 'settings' i had to set it to use 'xterm' instead of 'default-terminal' or whatever that setting was called.. for it to work right.
[22:53] <elli222> Hello, is it possible to get the battery charge applet (for laptops) to display the charge status of a UPS? (via apcupsd or somthing similar)
[22:54] <lab-goat> ubuntu sucks
[22:54] <sdcard>  is there an application that can be executed on a running gnu/linux  system ( installed on the hard disk) that can remove or reset a laptop's  bios password??
[22:54] <dr_willis> sdcard:  never seen such an app.
[22:55] <kk_jonti> drashy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/160971/
[22:55] <histo> sdcard: have you tried just reseting the bios?  does it still hold the password?
[22:55] <dennda> OMG. Did they really blacklist all X3100 (intel gma 965) blacklist from usage with compiz?
[22:55] <kk_jonti> drashy:  that has the output for my battry
[22:55] <kk_jonti> drashy:  I have a lenovo thinkpad R60
[22:55] <dennda> the second "blacklist" should be "cards"
[22:56] <histo> sdcard: nvm didn't relize you where talking of a laptop.  Might not have a way to reset the bios externally.
[22:56] <drashy> kk_jonti: k, well its not the same problem I have with Eee PC
[22:56] <drashy> kk_jonti: try posting on the ubuntu forum about it
[22:56] <histo> sdcard: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Security/Cmos-password-recovery-tools-10852.shtml
[22:56] <kk_jonti> drashy:  yes i am thinking of the same thing
[22:57] <Adyeths> Am I the only one who has experienced both 8.10 and 9.04 locking up requiring a reboot to make the computer usable again?
[22:57] <kk_jonti> drashy: what could you make out from the output?  I am not a kernel hacker but i feel that the battery is actually not getting charged to its fullest extent?
[22:57] <histo> sdcard: there is a program called cmospwd
[22:58] <aLeSD> hi all
[22:58] <drashy> kk_jonti: well it's definitely not getting charged fully according to that
[22:58] <aLeSD> I istalled ubunturemix on the asus 900 ... it works very slowly .. is it normal ?
[22:58] <drashy> kk_jonti: is it old battery?
[22:58] <bo0ts__> Hi, I have installed another Distro on the same harddrive and now tried to configure grub but get stuck with error 15 file not found. Even though everything should be correct.
[22:58] <kk_jonti> drashy:  that's why I am confused.  Seems like a battery problem but it is really not so.
[22:58] <aLeSD> I mean the ubuntu remix graphic interface is very slowly
[22:59] <dr_willis> !sudo
[22:59] <kk_jonti> drashy:  but at the same time my laptop is saying it is charged 100%
[22:59] <joelle> how do you get samba shares to auto-mount on startup?
[22:59] <GNU\colossus> joelle: man 5 fstab
[23:00] <bo0ts__> http://pastebin.com/m339afb3b
[23:00] <drashy> kk_jonti: theres always some variation but 35590 is far from 56160
[23:00] <bo0ts__> That would be my part of the grub config. I even tried making the config with kde grub manager but no success.
[23:00] <kk_jonti> drashy:  that's my point
[23:00] <pw-toxic> agruman: the ubuntu wiki says that i need the install cd... is there no possibility to fix this problem without reinstalling ubuntu?
[23:00] <drashy> kk_jonti: not sure why its doing that, unless ubuntu is reading the data from the battery wrong, or the battery is reporting it wrong
[23:00] <cousteau> where can I get the 2.6.28-3 version of linux-source?
[23:01] <mhilinski> hi everyone
[23:01] <mhilinski> is this a solution to my display issue
[23:01] <drashy> kk_jonti: it was in intrepid?
[23:01] <kk_jonti> drashy:  and I could except this if my laptop tels me that it is 60% charged and that it can't be charged any more.  but although it is not totally charged, my laptop says it is charged 100%
[23:01] <joelle> i wanted to know how to automount them on logon actually, not during boot, cause if the network isnt up at the time it locks up and takes forever to boot
[23:01] <drashy> kk_jonti: it was OK in intrepid even?
[23:01] <agruman> pw-toxic: you dont need to reinstall, you just need to get the machine booted so you can chroot into it. thats what the livecd is for
[23:01] <joelle> so using the fstab doesnt really work for me
[23:01] <kk_jonti> drashy: no it was hardy before
[23:02] <mhilinski> gstreamer--properties
[23:02] <dr_willis> joelle:  you could mount them via command line from the /etc/rc.local script
[23:02] <drashy> kk_jonti: did it read fine in hardy?
[23:02] <dr_willis> joelle:  (but  i just got in on the tail end of this conversation, so not sure what you are doing)
[23:02] <pw-toxic> agruman: ok thx  - but its unimportant which version of ubuntu i have on live cd? because i think i have an old one...
[23:02] <kk_jonti> drashy:  I used to get a little but of deviation in hardy as well.
[23:02] <drashy> I think the OS just uses the "last full capacity" reading to scale the current charge
[23:02] <joelle> dr_willis: i want to automount 3 network shares at logon
[23:02] <mib_hfph6mfb> can anyone guide me on how to upgrade the kernel on a 64 bit kubuntu machine?
[23:02] <thevdi> neskat. still here?
[23:03] <dr_willis> joelle:  thats doable from rc.local  - done that befor. :)
[23:03] <kk_jonti> drashy:  but i used to drain out the laptop and re charge it and things would get right
[23:03] <agruman> pw-toxic: that should not matter, just make sure to install dmraid once in the livecd as you will need that to see the raid
[23:03] <thevdi> dr_willis - do you have an ATI card ?
[23:03] <pw-toxic> agruman: thanks - i will look up my ubuntu live cd
[23:03] <mhilinski> no
[23:03] <dr_willis> thevdi:  goood hevens.. NO.. never again.. :P
[23:03] <MTecknology> mib_hfph6mfb: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:03] <joelle> dr_willis: do i just put the normal mount commands in there and rc.local will run them automatically?
[23:03] <drashy> kk_jonti: I think the OS just uses the "last full capacity" reading to scale the current charge rather than the "design capacity" as the actual capacity reduces with age/use
[23:03] <thevdi> Me neither. Know anyone who is good with them ?
[23:03] <dr_willis> joelle:  yes.. they will get ran as root. no sudo needed.
[23:04] <joelle> dr_willis: awesome
[23:04] <dr_willis> joelle:  i put in some to mount these shares i got with 'spaces' in the names.. couldent figure out how to mount them via fstab. :P
[23:04] <kk_jonti> drashy:  i think so but I can't find the solution to this.
[23:05] <drashy> kk_jonti: yeah, sorry I can't really help :)
[23:05] <kk_jonti> i managed to fix this but in hardy by totally draining the battery and then re charging
[23:05] <tgr_> hi i have a 250gb hard drive i am going to do  afresh install because my 8.04 is getting a bit buggy after xfce desktop install i was wondering what partition setup you recommend and if i should use ext3 or ext4 i want to have a seperate partition in case ubuntu crashes i can load another because my business runs on my computer
[23:05] <dr_willis> joelle:  theres also the fusesmb (or was it smbfuse) tool that sort of mounts the windows network on the fly.. bit i havent tried it under 9.04 yet. It was flakey under the last release
[23:05] <kk_jonti> drashy:  is there a way to refresh the memory used by acpi?
[23:05] <mib_hfph6mfb> MTecknology couldnt find package upgrade
[23:05] <Adyeths> so I've been having this problem with ubuntu locking up on me without giving me any error messages. first started with 8.10 but seems to have continued with 9.04. Is there anywhere here who knows anything about fixing these sorts of issues?
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[23:05] <FloodBot3> pleiJR^: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:05] <drashy> kk_jonti: I have no idea
[23:06] <kk_jonti> drashy:  any ways thanks
[23:06] <joelle> dr_willis: i'll give rc.local a try first, gotta reboot to try it out, i'll let you know how it goes :)
[23:06] <kk_jonti> drashy:  i will report this on the forum
[23:06] <MTecknology> mib_hfph6mfb: You tried to install the package upgrade... just run an upgrade
[23:06] <hbekel> tgr_: if you need the computer, don't use ext4 yet
[23:06] <drashy> kk_jonti: yw, hope you find a solution
[23:06] <MTecknology> mib_hfph6mfb: the default package manager handles new kernels
[23:07] <mib_hfph6mfb> im using linuxmce so its a little different
[23:07] <akorn> hey, what room should i go to for support on visual effects in 9.04? they're just lagging and they worked great in 8.04 for me...
[23:07] <david0> anybody know what compilers ubuntu have?
[23:07] <MTecknology> akorn: #ubuntu-effects
[23:07] <dr_willis> david0:  proberly any you need. :)
[23:08] <dr_willis> !gcc
[23:08] <david0> ok
[23:08] <Adyeths> ok, does anyone know where I can get help with a problem I've been having with ubuntu?
[23:08] <tgr_> hbekel: is reiserfs better than ext3?
[23:08] <MTecknology> Adyeths: ask
[23:09]  * Adyeths repeats his question...
[23:09] <Adyeths> so I've been having this problem with ubuntu locking up on me without giving me any error messages. first started with 8.10 but seems to have continued with 9.04. Is there anywhere here who knows anything about fixing these sorts of issues?
[23:09] <hbekel> tgr_: there's no better, filesystems can suit different needs
[23:09] <blake_> Can someone please help me with my Wacom tablet?  http://pastebin.com/m23a90bbc
[23:09] <akorn> MTecknology: how do i connect to that again? i never use IRC haha :S
[23:09] <MTecknology> tgr_: depends on your usage. On a laptop I prefer rfs, otherwise ext3. but I personaly use ext4 now
[23:09] <quaal> Adyeths, dmesg nothing?
[23:09] <MTecknology> akorn: /join
[23:10] <akorn> MTecknology: thanks haha
[23:10] <Adyeths> nope. nothing from dmesg.
[23:10] <MTecknology> yup
[23:10] <dennda> omg. they actually did.
[23:10] <ischliky> can anyone point me to where i can find how to set up a dual monitor on 9.04 since its no longer by using the xorg.conf, am using a Nvidia card
[23:10] <david0> Adyeths, you can reinstall it
[23:10] <hubar> Can I use vpn in a ubuntu 9.04 VM?
[23:10] <quaal> do other OS's lock up?
[23:10] <joelle> dr_willis: just tried putting the commands in rc.local and none of my shares connected automatically...
[23:10] <quaal> you sure it isnt hardware?
[23:10] <Adyeths> tried that already. reinstall didn't fix it.
[23:10] <jz> Mtechnology don't you mean murderFS
[23:10] <dennda> I do wonder what the devs had in mind when distributing an ubuntu version that's just broken with compiz on intel and has severe issues on ATI cards as well
[23:10] <david0> do you have two operating systems?
[23:10] <dr_willis> ischliky:  it does use the xorg.conf..  or at least parts of it.. I used the nvidia-settings tool to tweak/enable twinview.. (ran it as root) saved to the xorg.conf. restarted X - it worked fine
[23:10] <MTecknology> jz: no - ReiserFS
[23:11] <jz> dennda ATI has always sucked
[23:11]  * Adyeths only has one operating system.
[23:11] <quaal> lockups are usually not OS
[23:11] <dr_willis> joelle:  perhaps ya did it wrong? or are they are a wireless network?
[23:11] <jz> its not ubuntu's fault, ATI doesn't make linux drivers because they are dicks
[23:11] <MTecknology> jz: leave a persons history out of your decision about a filesystem...
[23:11] <david0> you need to reinstall your whole computer to factor setting
[23:11] <dennda> jz: The term "suckage" needs to be redefined in order to describe the current situation
[23:11] <hbekel> joelle: do you want the shares to mount when you login or after bootup? rc.local gets run only at boot
[23:11] <ischliky> dr_willis, i will give that a try, ty
[23:12] <dennda> jz: I personally don't have ATI. But I always read "buy intel, they have open source drivers". And now what? It's just the pure pain with intel drivers
[23:12] <dr_willis> gdm loads  sort of about the same time rc.local is running. (since gdm is a service) so its possible the rc.local is  getting ran a little after you log in.
[23:12] <joelle> dr_willis: i want the shares to mount at login
[23:12] <dr_willis> joelle:  LOGIN is different then 'boot up' :)
[23:12] <dr_willis> joelle:  rc.local will mount tehm at boot up with the proper commands..
[23:12] <joelle> dr_willis: i know, thats why i said login
[23:13] <dr_willis> joelle:  make them mount to the users home/whatever/dir..   why wait for the user to login>
[23:13] <hbekel> joelle: put them in ~/profile
[23:13] <mun_> hi
[23:13] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi all
[23:13] <tgr_> MTecknology: but ext4 is too volatile at the moment?
[23:13] <dr_willis> im not sure a 'user' can run the proper mount commands to mount a 'share' without using the fuse stuff.
[23:13] <Conic> I just want you guys behind Ubuntu to know that 9.04 has been a living dream for me.
[23:13] <Le-Chuck_ITA> do you have an idea on why grub won't boot, but rather show a blinking cursor?
[23:13] <Conic> A good dream.
[23:13] <mun_> does anyone know how i can use a different font colour for the left hand side of $ in bash (my current path and user)?
[23:13] <tgr_> Conic: why is that?
[23:13] <joelle> i added to rc.local smbmount //<IP_ADDRESS>/Storage /home/joelle/Storage -o username=xxx,password=xxx  and it did nothing, but if i run the same command in a terminal it mounts the share...
[23:14] <dr_willis> mun_:  read the 'bash prompt howto' :) it gives 100000's of prompt examples like that.
[23:14] <geodome> hihi.. for some reason.. ubuntu 9.04 freezes on my compter
[23:14] <Conic> Everything WORKED. Out of the box. Even on my weird hardware.
[23:14] <joelle> so i dont understand why it works 1 way but not the other
[23:14] <blake_> Can someone please help me with my Wacom tablet?  http://pastebin.com/m23a90bbc
[23:14] <geodome> does it gotta do with my graphics card / driver?
[23:14] <mun_> dr_willis, ok thanks
[23:14] <dr_willis> mun_:  and dont spend weeks tweaking the prompt.. like i did. :P
[23:14] <hbekel> dr_willis: that's what fstab is for
[23:15] <Le-Chuck_ITA> is it possible to have sda8 on ubuntu i386? I thought I could only have 3 primary +4 in the extended one=7
[23:15] <jz> dennda: I'm working with an intel integrated graphics card on my laptop and it's pretty solid, I've had good experiences with the default experience on all the nvidia cards i've used as well
[23:15] <Le-Chuck_ITA> perhaps this is the cause. Gparted created sda8 some way
[23:15] <jz> MTecknology: just saying, i'm not sure you can expect regular updates on your FS...
[23:15] <dr_willis> mun_:  try this prompt -->    sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome,  XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE)
[23:16] <dr_willis> mun_:  doh wrong paste... :) just a sec.
[23:16] <dr_willis> mun_:   export PS1='[\[\e[0;32m\]\u\[\e[m\] \[\e[1;34m\]\w\[\e[m\] \[\e[m\] \[\e[1;32m\]]\$ \[\e[m\]\[\e[1;37m\] '
[23:16] <dennda> jz: You're obviously not using the jaunty + 965 + compiz combination
[23:16] <Guest53796> hello. i need help w/ my X. when i start a program in wine, X begins spazzing, open s a 1GB swap file and everything starts flickering. it uses both of my ccores at 100%
[23:16] <jz> dennda: wahts 965?
[23:16] <mun_> dr_willis, nice thanks!
[23:17] <Clyde> who can help me to install lampp ?
[23:17] <Guest53796> can't stop it w/o restarting the server
[23:17] <dennda> jz: the chipset of the intel card i'm using. e.g. Intel X3100 cards have that
[23:17] <yohyoh> hi
[23:17] <Clyde> Someone who can help me to install LAMP ?
[23:17] <jz> Clyde: sudo apt-get install apache2; sudo apt-get install php5; echo 'I WIN'
[23:17] <Clyde> ok ..thanks a lot!
[23:17] <Clyde> but..mysql ?
[23:17] <dr_willis> mun_:  that primpt howto has one that uses a command to show the 'size of all files in the cirrent dirrectory in the prompt' that i also like.
[23:18] <Polterge|st> where can I get the latest adobe reader and plugins for Jaunty ?
[23:18] <john_> hello! I'm having some trouble installing the 'atlantis' plugin to ubuntu jaunty with compiz working fine. I have downloaded atlantis but when I try to install it in the terminal it cannot find compiz installed :S
[23:18] <jz> oh right
[23:18] <Clyde> damn..i'm so stupid
[23:18] <john_> can anyone help?
[23:18] <jz> sudo apt-get install mysql;
[23:18] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Clyde: sudo apt-get install mysql5
[23:18] <yohyoh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades#AlternateUpgrade   <-- i followed this in upgrading my box using iso file but i cant find cdromupgrade file, any help?
[23:18] <jz> there! done
[23:18] <Le-Chuck_ITA> :)
[23:18] <Clyde> F1 solves all the...shiT
[23:18] <Clyde> thanks a lot guys
[23:18] <fez> heh
[23:18] <fez> I <3 8.04LTS
[23:18] <yohyoh> can someone help me how to upgrade ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 using iso?
[23:18] <agruman> just did a fresh jaunty install and "aplay -l" gives me "no soundcards found" however "sudo aplay -l" list them as fine, anyone has some info on this?
[23:18] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ok I am in serious trouble here; my jaunty must boot again before tomorrow
[23:18] <thiebaude> blake_: it looks like duplicates
[23:19] <Guest53796> again, so rry  to bother, but my X is almost unusable. i don't know where to start
[23:19] <mun_> dr_willis, thanks for that
[23:19] <Guest53796> quitting the wine program doesn't help
[23:19] <hbekel> mun_: PS1=">\[\033[s\]\[\033[1;\$((COLUMNS-4))f\]\$(date +%H:%M)\[\033[u\]"
[23:19] <dr_willis> mun_:  yea. thers a lot neat ones in the guides/docs/sites out.
[23:19] <thursley> Hi, I am using jaunty on a thinkpad. I am trying to get my fingerprint to log me in automatically (with GDM) without having to type a username or select a user. Anyone know if this is possible?
[23:19] <hbekel> mun_: time in the right corner
[23:20] <dr_willis> hbekel:  that one dideent seem right... just  >
[23:20] <mun_> hbash, strange, that doesn't work for me either
[23:20] <ytterbium> please help w/ X. desperate to fix this
[23:20] <hbekel> dr_willis: yes, but it should print the time in the upper left corner
[23:20] <mun_> hbekel, ^^
[23:20] <dr_willis> does it? heh..
[23:20] <john_> can someone help me install atlantis plugin to my compiz? I'm having trouble :S
[23:20] <mun_> oh yes in deed
[23:21] <mun_> upper right corner indeed
[23:21] <hbekel> dr_willis: if your terminal supports the right excape sequences it will
[23:21] <travist120> Quick question, how to I switch windows in Irssi?
[23:21] <hbekel> *escape
[23:21] <jz> thursley: you obviously didn't read the Batman comic where they cut off peoples hands to exploit that security method
[23:21] <fabman> hello again. I've finally ditched nm-applet in favour of wicd, and my wifi connection is automatically set now, I'd like to thank the person that suggested me wicd: Thanks.
[23:21] <dr_willis> like we need MORE clocks :)
[23:21] <cousteau> john_: what trouble?
[23:21] <iceroot> travist120: alt + window-number
[23:21] <iceroot> travist120: or /windows number
[23:21] <iceroot> travist120: or /window number
[23:21] <sharma> how can i log in to diffrent users without asking for a password?
[23:21] <travist120> iceroot: thanks, and how do I close one?
[23:21] <ytterbium> anyone? my X is freaking out.
[23:21] <Patser> Does anybody have  a clue about how to change the glx usage of X?  Sinds I migrated to the latest ubuntu my graphics are slower than the previous version.
[23:21] <fabman> drmrhorse_, thanks (just scrolled back and found it was you the one suggesting me to use wicd)
[23:22] <iceroot> travist120: /wc
[23:22] <travist120> iceroot: okay thanks!
[23:22] <Polterge|st> ah ok  "sudo apt-get install acroread"
[23:22] <iceroot> travist120: and alt + a will switch to the window someone highlighted you
[23:22] <thursley> jz: I am using full disk encryption, so they'd have to get my brain first to ;)
[23:22] <Polterge|st> like 63.4 mb or something like that for the download though
[23:22] <john_> cousteau : i'm trying to install atlantis (following <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=875597>) and when i run sudo make clean it says it can't find compiz installed!
[23:22] <jz> lol
[23:22] <fabman> bye ppl, have a nice one!
[23:23] <ytterbium> begging for help w/ X. anyone can help me? know who i can talk to?
[23:23] <Polterge|st> thursley, hmm did you use uuencone from the sharutils  ?
[23:23] <demon_> join #elive
[23:23] <Polterge|st> and thursley do you notice any performance degradation
[23:23] <cousteau> john_: you need: sudo aptitude install compiz-dev compiz-fusion-bcop libxslt1-dev libcairo2-dev libglu1-mesa-dev
[23:23] <dr_bro> amarok player is running very slow, is it a heavy program or is it something that can be fixed
[23:24] <coleys> kde is heavy, therefore amarok is :p
[23:24] <john_> cousteau : many thanks - i'll give it a go
[23:24] <yohyoh> sh Can't open /cdrom/cdromupgrade   <--this is what i get when trying to upgrade my ubuntu using iso, any help one this please?
[23:24] <y0315219> i want to know if there is a good download software for ubuntu
[23:24] <yohyoh> btw i have already mounted it
[23:24] <coleys> dr_bro: Are you using Kubuntu? Or... ubuntu...
[23:24] <yohyoh> but that file wasnt there
[23:24] <esion> who is better ubuntu or Debian?
[23:24] <cousteau> john_: I stored that command on a file for future installs :)
[23:24] <coleys> If ubuntu I suggest exaile or Rhythmbox
[23:24] <dr_bro> cleys: ubuntu
[23:24] <darweth12> How do I change hardware associations?  I set my Sony audio player to boot Banshee when plugged in via usb.  Want to disable that on Jaunty.  Cannot find a device manager.
[23:25] <dr_bro> coleys*
[23:25] <thiebaude> esion: in my case, i say ubuntu 9.04
[23:25] <ytterbium> please help me fix my X server. weird odd bugs
[23:25] <thursley> Polterge|st: not sure and don't know. Friend helped me set things up on my new laptop, so haven't tried it without encryption
[23:25] <esion> whats the different??
[23:25] <thiebaude> esion: i dont know i dont use debian
[23:25] <john_> cousteau : :P
[23:26] <esion> ok
[23:26] <esion> i have ubuntu 8.10 its ok?
[23:26] <losher> !best | esion
[23:26] <Polterge|st> thursley, I seen a nice article awhile back that tells how to use uuencode to generate a key at startup and one at shutdown
[23:26] <supersasho> is there a way how to change pwm manualy and not letting fancontrol using lm-sensors readings?
[23:26] <Polterge|st> that way they key is always changed
[23:26] <esion> ok sorry
[23:26] <Polterge|st> any time the state of the pc changes
[23:26] <Polterge|st> would take longer to boot up and shutdown though
[23:27] <losher> esion: I'd cut you more slack if you'd said better for what?
[23:27] <Ghlore> is anyone able to answer a tech question about ubuntu 904
[23:27] <esion> this is the problem i dont know the difference
[23:28] <thursley> Polterge|st: sounds like something fun to try
[23:28] <fez> esion, no es bueno
[23:28]  * thursley googles
[23:28] <thiebaude> losher: and i shouldn't have said better because i never tried debian,:)
[23:28] <supersasho> Ghlore: whats the question? without it no one can help you :)
[23:28] <losher> esion: then see my faq at http://home.comcast.net/~losher/fbaq.ubuntu.904.html and let me know if it helps
[23:29] <pw-toxic> agruman: i've successfully loaded 8.04 from cd, but i dont know how i can change or install anything in my 9.04 ubuntu installation
[23:29] <Ghlore> I just instaled 904 on my Acer Extensa 4630Z laptop and i notice the hard drive light is constantly accessing like every second, i have tryed everything i have read about it so far and nothing helped
[23:29] <Ghlore> any ideas?
[23:29] <pw-toxic> if i type apt-get install then everything is "installed" on my live ubuntu 8.04
[23:29] <yohyoh> am i having a connection problem? it seems like nobody is seeing my messages or help
[23:29] <darweth12> How do I change hardware associations?  I set my Sony audio player to boot Banshee when plugged in via usb.  Want to disable that on Jaunty.  Cannot find a device manager.
[23:29] <jz> yohyoh, we can see your messages
[23:30] <losher> yohyoh: we see you loud & clear
[23:30] <yohyoh> oh ok thanks
[23:30] <yohyoh> hehehe
[23:30] <agruman> pw-toxic: if you scroll down in the fakeraidhowto you will see information regarding chroot, and "mount --bind  ... aso" after you have chrooted you are in your new install and can fix any grub problems you have, just make sure to apt-get install dmraid first, then mount your raid somewhere
[23:31] <supersasho> Ghlore: have you tried to turn off the tracker deamon?
[23:31] <agruman> pw-toxic: sorry i cant help you more gotta go
[23:31] <pw-toxic> agruman: thanks anyway
[23:32] <yohyoh> jz or losher can you help me?
[23:32] <twofisher> i have a fully encrypted system and now want to create a software raid1 - can i just proceed normally or do i have to do something special?
[23:32] <Le-Chuck_ITA> none of you ever heard about grub just blinking a cursor? We managed to boot the local system from a liveusb but still can't get grub back on our HD
[23:32] <Ghlore> no i have not tryed that, how do i disable the tracker deamon, im a complete n00b with Linux
[23:32] <john_> cousteau : you still there?
[23:32] <christi> can I install Ubuntu on a LVM?
[23:32] <Rafael_> how can i check my raid partition size
[23:32] <Ghlore> i love it so far though other than the HDD issue
[23:32] <losher> yohyoh: that's a trick question. We won't know until you ask a question....
[23:33] <yohyoh> jz or losher: sh Can't open /cdrom/cdromupgrade   <--this is what i get when trying to upgrade my ubuntu using iso, any help one this please?
[23:33] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Ghlore: go to your session (system->startup programs or system->session) and uncheck tracker
[23:33] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Ghlore: then reboot
[23:33] <yohyoh> there no more tricks :D
[23:33] <losher> yohyoh: sorry, never seen that before. Tried googling it?
[23:33] <john_> can anyone help me? i'm trying to install a plugin to compiz and am finding difficulty!
[23:33] <Ghlore> ok thankyou i will try that and log back in and let you know how it works, btw this is an amazing community i was shoucked to see the amount of people in the chan
[23:33] <Rafael_> also anybody knows how to resize software raid
[23:33] <john_> can anyone help me? i'm trying to install a plugin to compiz (on latest ubuntu installed today!)and am finding difficulty!
[23:34] <yohyoh> k
[23:34] <losher> christi: yes, no special restrictions as far as I know. I haven't done it myself tho'
[23:34] <coleys> john which plugin
[23:34] <`brandon`> Hello, How do i find what job to quit?
[23:34] <`brandon`> kill*
[23:35] <roadranger> `brandon`: type 'jobs' in a terminal.
[23:35] <Ghlore> i actually do not see a tracker in the startup
[23:35] <mastertop> hi
[23:36] <`brandon`> this is actully what it says
[23:36] <`brandon`> brandon@ubuntu:~/Desktop/bircd$ jobs
[23:36] <`brandon`> brandon@ubuntu:~/Desktop/bircd$
[23:36] <mastertop> i installed ubuntu on a laptop and only ethernet internet works, not wireless internet... what's wrong?
[23:36] <christi> losher: I see; thanks
[23:36] <Rafael_> anybody knows how to check rais size and how to resize it
[23:36] <Wicked> !java
[23:37] <`brandon`> !killl | brandon
[23:37] <`brandon`> !kill | brandon
[23:37] <roadranger> `brandon`: try ps aux ad kill the PID of whatever job.
[23:37] <Wicked> how can i tell firefox to use sun java and not icedtea java?
[23:37] <john_> can anyone help me? i'm trying to install a plugin to compiz (on latest ubuntu installed today!)and am finding great difficulty!
[23:37] <blake_> thiebaude, its one for cursor, one for eraser, and one for the pad ... i think that's how it's worked in past versions in xorg..  I tried with just the cursor secition it didnt work
[23:37] <Rafael_> any help on resizen software raid in ubuntu?
[23:38] <mastertop> please... if I don't get that fixed soon enough I'll just install MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP back :p
[23:38] <`brandon`> well i dont know the Jobs PID or Prossess
[23:38] <thiebaude> blake_: ok
[23:38] <roadranger> `brandon`: then i doubt it is running, can you be more specific?
[23:39] <`brandon`> well i started a IRCd but i don't know how to get the job # so i can kill it
[23:39] <`brandon`> or "PID"
[23:39] <roadranger> `brandon`: try ps aux |grep ircd
[23:40] <`brandon`> ah ty
[23:40] <`brandon`> thats it
[23:40] <DanPatey> Hey guys I'm having a problem with video playback, it happens with all videos and totem, mplayer, and VLC; Basically my videos go out of sync after 5 seconds and then constantly speed up and slow down making them unwatchable, any idea what would cause this?
[23:40] <walldo> ive been using fluxbox for about a year now, all of a sudden my shit locked up and now my fluxbox menu wont launch anything out of the menu any suggestions?
[23:41] <walldo> i lost my two month uptime too :(
[23:41] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 8.10] My $HOME directory is missing! '/home$ ls -l; total 0'. I cannot log in at X server either. mount does not show '/home'. How to fix this?
[23:41] <walldo> and i wasnt editing anything when this happened, it just happened...
[23:41] <Ghlore> does anyone know why i do not have tracker in my system startup menu?
[23:42] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Ghlore: and how do you know it is running?
[23:42] <losher> DanPatey: did this ever work correctly?
[23:43] <DanPatey> losher: yup, worked great in intrepid, I think it might be a problem after upgrading to Jaunty
[23:43] <losher> DanPatey: no kidding. Short answer, downgrade...
[23:44] <Ghlore> i do not i was just following direction from someone here to help with stopping my HDD light from flashing every second and went to disable but its not there
[23:44] <Rafael_> i need some help on resizeing a sofware Raid, anybody can assist?
[23:44] <DanPatey> losher: what's the easiest way to do that?
[23:44] <losher> DanPatey: restore from the backup you were supposed to have made before you upgraded?
[23:44] <Xiong> help! i'm attempting to repartition prior to install jaunty; i wish to shink the partition containing my home folder, so as to save it; i'm not allowed to shrink it at all, even when booted from live cd; i've created a new, small partition instead, hoping to copy my home folder to it but now i cannot mount the new partition
[23:45] <DanPatey> losher: gotcha, thanks!
[23:45] <bitf> Hi, can't get sound on Internet video, tried uninstalling pulse audio and switching browsers, any ideas?
[23:45] <dsdeiz> how to open deb files using the terminal?
[23:45] <Xiong> i don't see a way, from within gparted, to set a mount point for the new partition, which may be the issue?
[23:46] <losher> dsdeiz: man dpkg has most of the details...
[23:46] <nixuser_> ubuntu netbook remix works well on a msi wind
[23:46] <dsdeiz> tnx
[23:46] <Calabero> how do i continue with loading into live environment from USB on an Acer Aspire 1  that crashes while loading, dumping me to an (initramfs)_ prompt, claiming that no root location could be found?
[23:47] <palomer> what's the best ubuntu channel?
[23:48] <lstarnes> palomer: probably this one
[23:48] <losher> Xiong: after making the partition, you need to create a fileystem on it before it can be mounted. You should also fsck it too before mounting
[23:49] <Xiong> losher: how do i create a filesystem on the new partition
[23:50] <djs> Where do I find the official repositories for Xubuntu?
[23:50] <sleeper88> hello everyone
[23:50] <losher> Xiong: click on the line displaying the partition, select 'format to' and choose ext3
[23:51] <sleeper88> i'm a potential ubuntu user and have some questions can you guys help me out?
[23:51] <losher> Xiong: click on the line displaying the partition, select 'format to' and choose ext3, double check you got the right partition, then 'apply'
[23:51] <losher> sleeper88: ask away
[23:51] <Xiong> losher, done and applied
[23:51] <sleeper88> alright so i've been using windows for quite some time
[23:51] <losher> Xiong: what is the partition name?
[23:52] <sleeper88> and basically the only reason was I used to game
[23:52] <Xiong> losher, it has no name now
[23:52] <sleeper88> now i don't play games
[23:52] <sleeper88> so i wanted to try out ubuntu since its free and i don't feel like buying a copy of vista
[23:52] <losher> Xiong: what disk is it on?
[23:52] <sleeper88> basically my question is
[23:52] <sleeper88> is ubuntu good for everything but gaming?
[23:52] <Xiong> /dev/sda7
[23:53] <coleys> sleeper88: linux has good games too :p
[23:53] <coleys> + wine.
[23:53] <coleys> So... ubuntu is good for everything.
[23:53] <losher> Xiong: that *is* the partition name, now do 'fsck /dev/sda7'
[23:53] <Xiong> losher, /dev/sda7
[23:53] <ton1> i know this channel is not speaking about porcina influenza, i would like to know is this real ? or someone is getting advantage
[23:53] <Xiong> losher, will do
[23:53] <bitf> sleeper88:what do you use your computer for
[23:53] <genii> sleeper88: Try the livecd and if you like what you see, install and use it.
[23:54] <losher> ton1: ask on #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:54] <Xiong> Error: Cannot open device /dev/sda7
[23:54] <losher> Xiong: something not right there. Pastebin the output of 'fdisk -l /dev/sda' please
[23:55] <y0315219> i can't see the "_" in my gvim
[23:56] <y0315219> _
[23:56] <losher> sleeper88: some things aren't as good in linux: mutlimedia for example. My advice is to use vmware on windows and run linux inside it to get a feel for whether you want to commit to leanring a new OS
[23:56] <Xiong> losher, cannot open /dev/sda
[23:57] <Guest57576> i'm not able to run avi files....
[23:57] <Guest57576> how can i do?
[23:57] <MK-BB> did you try to install
[23:57] <Guest57576> i have also vlc but it doesn't work
[23:57] <deugeniet> is this the place for ubuntu help?
[23:57] <losher> Xiong: then you can't possibly have a /dev/sda7 partition. Now do 'sfdisk -l' and paste the output
[23:57] <MK-BB> install restricted-updates?
[23:57] <Guest57576> i have installed ffmpeg but also this doesn't work
[23:58] <lstarnes> deugeniet: ye
[23:58] <lstarnes> *yes
[23:58] <dennda> How do you automatically bypass the blacklist checks when compiz tries to start again? I added SKIP_CHECKS=yes to my ~/.config/compiz/compizconfig/config, but that didn't help
[23:58] <deugeniet> need some help on vm
[23:58] <Guest57576> MK-BB: what i have to apt-get install??
[23:58] <tgr_>  i have 250 gb hd and 2gb ram what should be my partition setup
[23:58] <Xiong> losher, no output at all, just another terminal prompt
[23:58] <MK-BB> sudo apt-get install restricted-update (?) I think so. hold on for a moment
[23:59] <RIco> Guest57576: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:59] <losher> Xiong: ok, last try: dmesg | egrep sd
[23:59] <MK-BB> !ubottu restricted-extras
[23:59] <MK-BB> !ubottu ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:59] <MK-BB> RIco, thanks.


[08:11] <sil2100> I see CI Train spreadsheet error reports in my inbox
[08:11] <sil2100> We might have a problem...
[08:17] <Mirv> :(
[08:22] <sil2100> Anyway, time to open the gates officially
[08:23] <sil2100> Yeah, just got a fatal error on the spreadsheet, damn it
[08:23] <sil2100> The funny part the problems started in the middle of the weekend!
[08:24] <sil2100> So actually when no one was really using the spreadsheet, so all the theories about too many users accessing at once has been made invalid
[08:24] <Mirv> yeah, I already thought it's probably not that
[08:45] <imgbot> [10:20] <imgbot> [10:20] <imgbot> [10:46] <Mirv> ogra_: ^ can we get a proper changes file?
[10:59] <sil2100> ugh
[10:59] <sil2100> Indeed, something is b0rken
[10:59] <sil2100> ogra_: ^
[11:04] <ogra_> imgbot, status 271
[11:04] <imgbot> Status: succeeded, Started: 2015-05-04 08:41:26 UTC, Finished: 2015-05-04 09:32:37 UTC
[11:04] <imgbot> Build URL: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu-rtm/14.09/ubuntu-touch/+build/26101
[11:04] <imgbot> Changelog: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/271.changes
[11:07] <ogra_> Mirv, that will take a bit ... i need to fiddle with the scripts to use the LP build url of the manifest (cdimage flushed all old images/manifests because they got to old to keep)
[11:07] <sil2100> ogra_: your scripts are bash-based, right?
[11:07] <ogra_> well, shell based ... not bash :)
[11:08] <sil2100> Yeah, sorry, old habits of using those terms interexchanably ;)
[11:09] <ogra_> the scripts are in the respective dir with the .changes files ...
[11:09] <ogra_> (compare-manifests and compare-manifests-rtm)
[11:50] <sil2100> Damn, some workers are drilling next to my flat, hard to concentrate
[11:50] <sil2100> brb, lunch
[12:20] <ogra_> Mirv, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10984182/ ... should be it
[12:21] <Mirv> ogra_: thanks! ooh, updated translations for my Bq upcoming!
[12:21] <ogra_> yeah :)
[12:21] <Mirv> the store categories have been a bit annoying but I read they were translated recently
[12:24] <Mirv> talking about Bq, I just turned the display on and u8 lockscreen is there but touch is not working
[12:24] <Mirv> oh, it was probably running apport and it crashed
[12:25] <rvr> CI Train dashboard broken again?
[12:25] <rvr> "A server error occurred. The page will reload."
[12:25] <Mirv> rvr: the spreadsheet, yes, causing some troubles
[12:27] <rvr> It doesn't let me sign off a silo
[12:32] <rvr> Ah, good, finally
[13:24] <rvr> kenvandine: ping
[13:25] <kenvandine> rvr, pong
[13:25] <rvr> kenvandine: Good morning
[13:25] <kenvandine> good morning
[13:25] <rvr> kenvandine: I'm with the lists updates hotfix
[13:26] <rvr> kenvandine: I was wondering whether the bug still applies
[13:26] <kenvandine> which bug?
[13:26] <rvr> kenvandine: I mean, the test case (umetronome) ... http://launchpad.net/bugs/1449582
[13:26] <kenvandine> yes it does
[13:26] <kenvandine> well it did friday :)
[13:27] <rvr> kenvandine: Ok, checking
[13:27] <kenvandine> rvr, it's an important fix to land, it's going to affect lots of rtm users
[13:27] <kenvandine> as packages get updated in the store
[13:28] <kenvandine> so far we only found one that caused the problem
[13:28] <kenvandine> but the bottom line is the update plugin was using the wrong url for the store and not filtering arch or framework
[13:28] <kenvandine> it was using the old dev api, before any of that existed
[13:31] <sil2100> tvoss: could you add landing description to the request?
[13:31] <tvoss> sil2100, sure
[13:31] <sil2100> tvoss: thanks :)
[13:31] <sil2100> tvoss: sadly, the landing will have to wait a bit since we currently have no vivid silos
[13:32] <sil2100> We'll increase the number of silos shortly though
[13:32] <tvoss> sil2100, fixed
[13:54] <cwayne> sil2100, heya
[13:55] <sil2100> cwayne: hi!
[13:56] <cwayne> sil2100, hey so, since we agreed that updating any scope that's in the store should go through QA, I was wondering how to best accomplish that? do we just add it to the spreadsheet with a link to the click?
[13:57] <sil2100> cwayne: which scope would you want to update? Generally that's what we would love to start happening, yes
[13:57] <sil2100> Usually an e-mail or an entry in the spreadsheet as with clicks would be sufficient
[13:58] <cwayne> sil2100, twitter-trending, believe it fixes a crasher in today-scope.  very very low-risk as well :D
[13:58] <sil2100> Famous last words ;) !
[13:58] <cwayne> lol
[13:58] <sil2100> Yeah, let's give it to QA I suppose, they might decide it doesn't need much QA anyway
[13:59] <cwayne> right,t hat's fine, I just want to start doing updates more properly :)
[13:59] <cwayne> well, I mean they did go through qa during the custom update, but still, more proper I suppose :)
[14:25] <cwayne> is there something weird going on with the spreadsheet?
[14:25] <cwayne> i keep getting some popup saying there's a fatal error
[14:28] <sil2100> cwayne: yeah, as per topic, spreadsheet is brokenish again
[14:29] <cwayne> derp, sorry
[14:35] <sil2100> jibel, robru: I need to jump out now to the vet with my two lizards, I'm pretty sure I'll be back before the meeting but it all depends on traffic/queue
[14:44] <rvr> kenvandine: Approving ubuntu-rtm silo 5
[14:45] <kenvandine> rvr, thx!
[14:59] <kenvandine> rvr, don't forget to mark silo 5 as qa verified on the spreadsheet
[15:03] <rvr> kenvandine: I did, but the spreadsheet is broken :P
[15:03] <kenvandine> sigh
[15:03] <kenvandine> rvr, ok, thanks!
[15:03]  * kenvandine grumbles about the spreadsheet
[15:03] <rvr> It presented "Granted" to me... just re-granted
[15:04] <kenvandine> cool, thx
[15:11] <rsalveti> sil2100: yeah, spreadsheet is kind of broken
[15:11] <ogra_> kind of ...
[15:29] <om26er_> rsalveti, Hi! powerd package install is failing with: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10985054/
[15:29] <om26er_> re: silo 16
[15:32] <ogra_> om26er_, sudo umount /usr/share/powerd/device_configs/config-default.xml ... then try installing it again
[15:33] <ogra_> (make sure to reboot afterards to have it properly mounted again)
[15:33] <rsalveti> yeah
[15:33] <rsalveti> we have the instructions in the wiki page
[15:33] <jibel> om26er_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlans/Powerd
[15:34] <rsalveti> yeah, that one
[15:34] <rsalveti> thanks
[15:34] <jibel> om26er_, you must install the packge from recovery
[15:34] <om26er_> jibel, ogra_ aah, didn't see the TestPlan, was expecting installing instruction in the spreadsheet :)
[15:34] <om26er_> ogra_, that seemed to have worked.
[15:34] <ogra_> :)
[15:35] <rsalveti> spreadsheet giving tons of erros
[15:35] <rsalveti> errors
[15:35] <ogra_> yeap ...
[15:36] <ogra_> see topic
[15:42] <sil2100> Yeah...
[15:43] <sil2100> As always, not much we can do
[15:43] <sil2100> But the replacement is closer every day!
[15:43] <ogra_> send google a bill for the work on the replacement is what we should do :P
[15:43] <sil2100> Google doesn't care ;)
[15:43] <ogra_> indeed
[15:44] <sil2100> We filled in formal complaints and bug-reports and they just send those back without doing anything
[15:44] <sil2100> I'll know more about the ETA after todays integration meeting possibly
[15:48] <jibel> rvr, you passed rtm/silo 5 right?
[15:48] <jibel> its status reverted to needs sign off
[15:50] <rvr> jibel: Yes, 4 and 5
[15:51] <jibel> rvr, ack, I delete the card
[15:51] <sil2100> Argh, ok, publishing then
[16:41] <om26er> rsalveti, I am not able to find the unlock script do you know where it exists ?
[16:41] <ogra_> om26er, plars should be able to tell you
[16:41] <om26er> I need that to verify "See if the lab-specific screen unlock logic still works:"
[16:41]  * ogra_ isnt sure ... i think it used to be shipped in the unit8 tree
[16:42] <plars> om26er: it lives in unity8-autopilot
[16:43] <om26er> plars, hmm, how do I call it ?
[16:45] <plars> om26er: iirc, it's meant to be called from the host side, so you'll want to start with adb pull /usr/share/unity8/unlock-device
[16:45] <plars> chmod +x on it
[16:45] <plars> then run it, I think it can take args for the serial and a wait command
[16:59] <om26er> plars, if I have passcode set, does it still unlock ?
[17:02] <plars> om26er: if you look at it, it's just a dbus call that's happening. Should work fine.
[17:02] <plars> adb shell "gdbus call --session --dest com.canonical.UnityGreeter --object-path / --method com.canonical.UnityGreeter.HideGreeter && echo Greeter unlocked" 2>&1
[17:03] <plars> om26er: the reason we use the script from unity8, is because that is their "official" way of doing it. If at any point in the future it changes, it just requires them to update that script and keep the calling mechanism the same, rather than coordinating to fix everyone using it
[17:16] <om26er> plars, after a few attempts it fails.
[17:17] <om26er> "I: Unlock attempt 5 failed, script output: 'error: closed'
[17:22] <plars> om26er: that seems odd, do you see anything happening on the screen? How about if you try to run the gdbus command manually?
[17:23] <om26er> plars, error: closed
[17:26] <om26er> plars, isn't that expected ? If the screen is locked with passcode adb is not supposed to work.
[17:26] <plars> om26er: ah, you aren't running with developer mode enabled?
[17:26] <om26er> plars, no
[17:26] <plars> om26er: certainly you will want that, if you want this to work in any sensible way
[17:26] <om26er> plars, ok, lemme reflash :)
[17:29] <rsalveti> om26er: hm, yeah, that might have changed, plars would know the details
[17:50] <om26er> rsalveti, while running the last test here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlans/Powerd
[17:50] <om26er> rsalveti, "active" stays in the last till the screen is on. It goes away after screen turns off. Is that expected ?
[17:52]  * rsalveti checking
[17:52] <rsalveti> om26er: guess that active one you have with screen on/off is from unity
[17:53] <om26er> rsalveti, right, so it needs a bit more clarity on how the fix can be verified
[17:53] <rsalveti> let me check here
[17:55] <rsalveti> om26er: yeah, it's unity, you need to test this without any app opened
[17:56] <rsalveti> let me change the wiki page
[18:03] <rsalveti> om26er: did it work now?
[18:03] <om26er> rsalveti, no, I am not fully sure about the steps. Did you update the wiki ?
[18:03] <om26er> aah, ok. I see your point now.
[18:03] <rsalveti> om26er: yeah, just run the same test but make sure you close all the opened apps before testing it
[18:04] <om26er> rsalveti, thanks. I was able to verify the fix now.
[18:04] <rsalveti> om26er: great
[18:07] <om26er> rsalveti, you need to update the test plan to point at how to unlock the screen. The current TestCase is wrong :)
[18:08] <om26er> trainguards: can you please land silo 16 ?
[18:08] <om26er> given the spreadsheet is broken.
[18:08] <rsalveti> I can land it
[18:10] <rsalveti> done
[18:26] <sil2100> om26er: ACK
[18:26] <sil2100> rsalveti: oh, thanks ;)
[18:26] <sil2100> We're in a meeting now o/
[18:41] <infinity> robru: ubuntu{,-rtm}/landing{31-40} adjusted to match the older ones.
[18:41] <robru> infinity: thanks!
[18:52] <om26er> bfiller, Hi!
[19:13] <robru> excellent, everybody who touched silo rtm 3 is gone.
[19:24] <robru> alright! 10 new ubuntu silos online, plus one free from before. who wants one?
[19:26] <robru> bzoltan: zbenjamin: silo 16
[19:28] <robru> bfiller: brand new silo 33 is yours
[19:30] <robru> ricmm: rsalveti: silo 34 for you
[19:31] <rsalveti> robru: that might be the one we just landed
[19:31] <robru> rsalveti: awesome
[19:31] <rsalveti> can't see it in the spreadsheet
[19:35] <robru> rsalveti: lol, awesome. well I assigned it from somewhere, now it vanished
[19:36] <robru> wut
[19:37] <robru> rsalveti: indeed that merge is merged
[19:37] <rsalveti> :-)
[20:07] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, silo 4 rtm seems to have the wrong status
[20:09] <rsalveti> pmcgowan: hm, also another one that probably landed already
[20:10] <rsalveti> part of this ci spreadsheet mess  that was caused when it was reverted to a previous revision
[20:10] <rsalveti> robru: mind cleaning up rtm 4?
[20:11] <robru> rsalveti: oh, that one too? ok
[20:12] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, can we fix silo 3 as well? sees stuck
[20:14] <rsalveti> let me see what is going on there
[20:14] <robru> pmcgowan: rtm 3? yeah it's in an inconsistent state, I need info on that before I can publish it
[20:15] <robru> rsalveti: pmcgowan: it seems the PPA has unity-scopes-api but the silo is not configured to have that or not, not sure if that package should be published or not.
[20:15] <rsalveti> robru: another issue with the spreadsheet?
[20:15] <rsalveti> since both were built via the ci train
[20:15] <robru> rsalveti: not as far as I can tell. if the spreadsheet loses data that's one thing, but in this case the silo config itself is inconsistent. could only happen if somebody reconfigured the silo
[20:16] <rsalveti> they were not copied, so built via ci train, which probably means it was configured like that before
[20:16] <rsalveti> right
[20:16] <robru> rsalveti: yeah, so at one point somebody configured the silo to have both, and then later reconfigured to remove unity-scopes-api. but it's not clear to me if that was on purpose or by mistake. so there's this unity-scopes-api package that I'm not sure if it should be published or not.
[20:16] <robru> rsalveti: I sent an email to pstolowski about that since he isn't on IRC
[20:17] <rsalveti> got it
[20:17] <rsalveti> pmcgowan: ^, so we'd need his input/feedback here
[20:17] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, ok lets wait then thanks
[20:17] <pmcgowan> thanks robru
[20:18] <robru> pmcgowan: you're welcome
[23:45] <infinity> Is someone on top of mangling CI bits to know what wily is?
[23:54] <robru> infinity: the train is mostly fine. the necessary cowbuilder chroot will spring into existence the first time a wily build is run. just some spreadsheet bits need to be updated to offer wily as an option. is it ready to go?
[23:55] <infinity> robru: Not quite, but getting there.
[23:55] <robru> infinity: no worries, I put a bunch of effort into eliminating cases of distro-name hard-coding in ci train. so when it's ready the train should just spring to life.