[05:51] <robb> same problem will happen on any OS
[05:51] <d4n1> don't switch salval
[05:51] <Salva1> The .gtk-bookmarks file contents this time.
[05:52] <Salva1> I lost Firefox sessions, compiz configurations (I had lost of them).
[05:52] <Salva1> In the past.
[05:52] <MrUnix> Hmmmm
[05:52] <ardchoille> Salva1: are you running a script thatcleans the systemor something?
[05:52] <Salva1> But If I fill one, It should not do that, Robb.
[05:52] <dreki> when i installed ubuntu i checked the encrypt myhome directory thing, how secure is that encryption?
[05:53] <robb> dreki: as secure as your passphrase and encryption level
[05:53] <Salva1> I do not know, Archoille.
[05:54] <Salva1> I did not make one, for sure.
[05:54] <d4n1> well guys, what do i need to have man pages on fork, ppid, execl, wait
[05:55] <bikcmp> Hello all, I'm trying to install ubuntu to my netbook
[05:55] <MrUnix> What's the command to execute a file.run?
[05:55] <bikcmp> I tried it a few times
[05:55] <bikcmp> MrUnix: ./FILE
[05:55] <bikcmp> but I can't get it to launch
[05:55] <MrUnix> bikcmp, thanks
[05:55] <bikcmp> MrUnix: make sure it's chmodded
[05:56] <zenlunatic> bikcmp: assuming its marked executable
[05:56] <MrUnix> bikcmp, I did and I used ./file as well. Hmmmm
[05:56] <bikcmp> maybe zipped
[05:56] <MrUnix> I'ma working on it
[05:56] <bikcmp> or tared
[05:56] <MrUnix> Nah, it's a raw file. No wrappings or compression.
[05:56] <bikcmp> I'm trying to install ubuntu to my netbook
[05:56] <mediaprodigy> Does anyone have the issue where if your computer goes into sleep mode it does not want to wake up.. and it forces you to reboot?
[05:56] <MrUnix> bikcmp, what's the issue exactly?
[05:56] <bikcmp> So I install it with wubi
[05:56] <bikcmp> and when I reboot it just goes to a busybox screen
[05:56] <MrUnix> *facepalm* Wubi. Not my area of expertise. Sorry
[05:56] <bikcmp> or a shell
[05:56] <bikcmp> :/
[05:57] <bikcmp> HP mini 110
[05:57] <dreki> robb, how can i check/change the encryption type?
[05:57] <ZykoticK9> So the articles about Firefox 3.6 being difficult to install on Linux (specifically Ubuntu) inspired me to try installing it (but failed with the PPA version, from tarball I can get it working) anyone get Firefox 3.6 from the Mozilla PPA working TODAY?  See http://paste.ubuntu.com/361066/ for much more details
[05:57] <zenlunatic> media`: yeah that can be a case on some laptops for instance
[05:57] <mediaprodigy> happens on my desktop machine.. sucks
[05:57] <zenlunatic> mediaprodigy: ^
[05:57] <Blue1> mediaprodigy: yup - that's why I never use sleep mode.....doesn't work in windoze either
[05:58] <zenlunatic> my ibook used to do that
[05:58] <mediaprodigy> zenlunatic: i read this is easily fixable by making it never go to sleep
[05:58] <bikcmp> know why mine just goes to busybox?
[05:58] <d4n1>  fork, system, execl, getpid, getppid, wait, waitpid,  perror and exit. <-- i need their man entries, how can i get them?
[05:59] <Blue1> d4n1: those are system processes
[05:59] <Blue1> d4n1: except for excel
[05:59] <robb> MrUnix: sh blah.run
[06:00] <d4n1> yes they are Blue1, but they have man entries
[06:00] <robb> at least for the nvidia binaries....
[06:00] <d4n1> and i need to lean to use those functions
[06:00] <d4n1> but i am clueless
[06:00] <MrUnix> robb, for some reason it had to be run as sudo.
[06:00] <Salva1> Is there some program in Ubuntu that deletes things when is running aout of space?
[06:00] <Blue1> d4n1: maybe you're using a different version of ubuntu - but mine does NOT have those
[06:00] <Salva1> *Out.
[06:01] <Salva1> By default.
[06:01] <d4n1> Blue1: exaclty, mine doesnt either
[06:01] <d4n1> but my school did
[06:01] <d4n1> and i think i need to include manpages-dev
[06:01] <d4n1> wait...
[06:01] <Blue1> d4n1: and I wouldn't expect they would those are kernel specific
[06:02] <d4n1> Blue1: apparently, try it, sudo apt-get install manpages-dev, they are there
[06:02] <d4n1> now to learn to use them
[06:02] <Blue1> d4n1: that make sense....
[06:02] <Salva1> Can anyone tell me what the Gnome virtual filesystem does?
[06:02] <d4n1> just finished getting their man entries
[06:03] <Salva1> *Do.
[06:04] <d4n1> salval: actualy it was does
[06:04] <d4n1> yes Blue1
[06:04] <d4n1> now i need to learn to use them :(
[06:05] <Salva1> OK:
[06:05] <Salva1> .
[06:05] <Blue1> d4n1: I don't do kernel development - sorry I can't help -- now mvs - that's a different story - that and RSX I do know the internals
[06:06] <Blue1> d4n1: fork was born in RSX land
[06:06] <mediaprodigy> ubuntu musicians channel link anyone..
[06:07] <d4n1> Blue1, what does that mean?
[06:07] <Blue1> d4n1: to fork a process is to send it from kernel process status, to a non-priveleged state to continue processing
[06:08] <Marupa> Hey there, everyone.  I'm looking to install ubuntu on a 64b box that already has windows7 installed on it.  I've got a raid 0+1 setup (software) which linux sees as the four individual drives it is.  If I were to install using the wubi method, would linux be raided on all four drives?
[06:08] <Blue1> d4n1: i.e. nmi vs mi (non-maskable interrupts vs maskable interrupts)
[06:09] <d4n1> Blue1: im lost, im kind of a beginer :(, but you know your stuff
[06:10] <Blue1> d4n1: yes, but you don't need to know how a car engine works, to drive a car - neither do you need to know the internals of linux to use it.
[06:10] <Blue1> hell I used windows for years -
[06:11] <Random832> Blue1; um, that's not what fork means in unix at all
[06:11] <ziroday> Marupa: unfortunately, no
[06:11] <Random832> fork in unix is derived from the idea of a 'fork in the road' - there was one process and now there are two identical processes
[06:12] <Blue1> Random832: what does it mean in unix?  that's what it did in rsx anyway
[06:12] <d4n1> Blue1: you are absolutely right. But you need to learn to drive it before you hop in the drives seat
[06:12] <theadmin> Hello. Is it possible to make Ubuntu download a specified file every n hours?
[06:12] <ziroday> theadmin: cron and wget
[06:12] <d4n1> Blue1: im still at learning
[06:12] <robb> theadmin: cron
[06:12] <Blue1> theadmin: cron
[06:12] <QPrime> d4n1: the skill sets in this channel are wide, but most of us are beginners or power users... the same general skill sets as with any OS.
[06:12] <theadmin> bleh, cron. Gotta learn this stuff
[06:12] <Marupa> Dang.  Is there any way to resize partitions of a raided drive in linux, then?
[06:12] <Random832> Blue1; you call the function from your process and now there are two of the process
[06:12] <ardchoille> theadmin: I wrote a cron tutorial, hold on..
[06:12] <Blue1> theadmin: man cron - -I think I've an example somewhere
[06:13] <QPrime> d4n1: the nice thing with FLOSS is that you get the tools to move from beginner to developer... right out of the box
[06:13] <ardchoille> theadmin: my cron tutorial: http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/04/crontab-tutorial.html
[06:13] <Blue1> Random832: true but the distinction was when the process was forked, it became a maskable interrupt
[06:13] <d4n1> QPrime: what is FLOSS
[06:13] <theadmin> ardchoille: Thanks a lot, reading now
[06:14] <brishu> hi folks, i have a question about an app, the alarm-clock to be more precise, whenever i open that guy up, i see a message saying that "my old alarm list is not empty",  now i dont see any menu entries (on the Global menu applet), not do i see any options in there to clear it, is there something i am missing?
[06:14] <Blue1> thanks ardchoille I will add a link on pkill-9
[06:14] <QPrime> d4n1: Free (Libre) Open Source Software  Free (as in beer), Libre (as in freedom)
[06:15] <d4n1> QPrime, i wish there was free beer ^_^
[06:15] <Random832> how is a process an interrupt?
[06:15] <Blue1> d4
[06:15] <Blue1> d4n1: or free donuts!
[06:15] <Karhu> hi..would someone be able to tell me the difference between "full upgrade" and "version upgrade" in adept manager please
[06:15] <QPrime> d4n1: *grin* well bits 'n bytes are the next best thing...
[06:15] <d4n1> Blue1: u just made me hungry
[06:15] <d4n1> QPrime: ^_^
[06:16] <Marupa> Anyone know if it's possible to assemble a raid in linux and resize the partition?
[06:16] <Blue1> Random832: i/o -- parts of it MUST be completed before continuing - starting a device - but once the device is started, then it can be forked to a maskable interrupt to wait for completion
[06:16] <aarcane> how do I prevent update-grub from generating an entry for a specific operating system or partition ?
[06:16] <Random832> yeah, that's not what the term 'fork' refers to at all in unix - it doesn't refer to devices at all, it's for programs
[06:17] <Blue1> Random832: okay I stand corrected.
[06:17] <Random832> you're thinking of the return from the kernel to user code - that's not called fork
[06:17] <Random832> in unix
[06:17] <theadmin> ardchoille: Does this look right?
[06:17] <theadmin> 0 * * * * wget whatismyip.org ~/Sharedfolder/Home-IP.txt
[06:17] <theadmin> Oops
[06:17] <theadmin> Damn enter message breaking :/
[06:18] <theadmin> ardchoille: Does this look right? 0 * * * * wget whatismyip.org ~/Sharedfolder/Home-IP.txt
[06:18] <ardchoille> 00 * * * * wget whatismyip.org ~/Sharedfolder/Home-IP.txt
[06:19] <ardchoille> theadmin: ^^
[06:19] <theadmin> ardchoille: Oops. Thanks
[06:19] <ardchoille> theadmin: that will execute the command at the top of every hour
[06:19] <theadmin> ardchoille: Yeah, just what I want :D
[06:20] <ardchoille> theadmin: ok
[06:20] <Billiard> theadmin: im not positive but i thought wget needs the -O option to specify filename
[06:20] <theadmin> Billiard: Uh... Huh? *checks man pages*
[06:21] <theadmin> Billiard: Ah, that's right
[06:21] <ardchoille> theadmin: wait, you need a cd in there
[06:21] <UK-DO> Hello guys I need a little brush up bout Ububtu/Kubuntu Which filesystem is best for K/Ubuntu 9,10
[06:22] <theadmin> UK-DO: Depends on your system and what you like
[06:22] <Blue1> UK-DO: depends on what you are doing - but ext4 is the default
[06:22] <Billiard> UK-DO: you probably want ext3/4
[06:22] <ardchoille> theadmin: that page will get saved as index.html:  00 * * * * cd ~/Sharedfolder/ && wget whatismyip.org
[06:22] <UK-DO> I'm avg user and absolute newbie to linux
[06:23] <Blue1> UK-DO: take the default - ext4 then
[06:23] <baddog> The default will probably suffice
[06:23] <UK-DO> ok
[06:24] <theadmin> ardchoille: Okay, here is the full command I have: 00 * * * * cd ~/Sharedfolder/ && wget whatismyip.org && mv index.html home-ip.txt
[06:24] <Billiard> theadmin: why not just use -O
[06:24]  * Blue1 wishes there was a reiserfs to ext4 converter - but there isn't
[06:24] <UK-DO> And I forgot all that swapspace home dir etc too I don't wish to creat any seperate partition for that I will be using single 19 GB partition for all that stuff  is that gonna be ok ?
[06:24] <ardchoille> theadmin: I was just about to show you how to add a mv command :)
[06:24] <owen1> what's the name of this game - multiplayer creatures, that shoots on each other, and have catch the flag option as well. they also have ropes they can use to jump.
[06:24] <theadmin> Billiard: %) this will also do I guess... Whatever
[06:24] <Blue1> UK-DO: I run linux on an 8 g flash drive- you'd be fine
[06:25] <Billiard> theadmin: idk if it can be done in one command idk why you would want to do it in 3
[06:25] <Blue1> but I use a different filesystem
[06:25] <ardchoille> theadmin: changing the file extension isn't going to remove the html code from the downloaded page though
[06:25] <Billiard> ardchoille: i dont think that page has any html
[06:25] <theadmin> ardchoille: I know, but whatismyip.org is just plain-texted current computer IP
[06:26] <Marupa> theadmin: not only the IP though.
[06:26] <ardchoille> Billiard: Ah, you're right, it doesn't. I just assumed due to the file extension .html
[06:26] <ezrafree> any ideas what might be happening here: i had slackware installed and then i installed ubuntu to another partition and everything is working great except each time i boot up into one or the other my time is reset somehow. some kind of an mbr issue or something? any ideas
[06:26] <Blue1> theadmin: why are you trying to get your ip addy every hour?
[06:26] <theadmin> Marupa: Huh?
[06:27] <Blue1> ezrafree: ru by chance using the same gui in each os?
[06:27] <Marupa> theadmin: Nevermind, was thinking .com, which gives you lots of other crap.
[06:27] <ezrafree> yes i am, gnome
[06:27] <ezrafree> you mean my wm, right?
[06:27] <UK-DO> I tried Kubuntu 9.10 with live CD but could not make network adpters work I have 2 ethernet adpaters 1 is being used other one is unpluged I tried to configure but no luck and I have some PPP network which is needed to start my broadband so am I going to have probs ?
[06:27] <theadmin> ardchoille: Well, there is something wrong there. 00 * * * * cd ~/Dropbox/ && rm -rf home-ip.txt && wget whatismyip.org && mv index.html home-ip.txt looks better.
[06:27] <Blue1> ezrafree: ahh the could be an issue - if they both point to the same home directory then the conf files over write each other - I use gnome in one and kde or something else in the other
[06:27] <ezrafree> Blue1: except they are each installed on completely different partitions, so / for slackware is on say /dev/sda1 while ubuntu's / is on /dev/sda3
[06:28] <Marupa> theadmin, wouldn't it be better to put all that as it's own script and then point cron to the script?
[06:28] <ezrafree> they do share a swap on /dev/sda2 though, could that be the issue?
[06:28] <Blue1> ezrafree: I ran into that problem because /home was on a seperate drive - so I used it for both os
[06:28] <ardchoille> theadmin: yeah, if you don't rm it wget will keep adding files with (1), (2), etc
[06:28] <theadmin> ardchoille: Also, what the heck is with this weird filename? /tmp/crontab.H39H3K/crontab? And what is one line doing there? some python script.
[06:28] <DexterLB> hi
[06:29] <DexterLB> I'm on a fresh install (karmic) on a new PC
[06:29] <owen1> what's the name of this multiplayer game - ball-shaped creatures that shoots on each other, and have catch the flag option as well. they also have ropes they can use to jump.
[06:29] <ezrafree> Blue1: ahh gotcha yeah that shouldn't be an issue for me then. this seems more a mbr issue or something... slackware was (is?) using lilo.. while ubuntu uses grub. could that be causing it somehow?
[06:29] <DexterLB> I installed compiz and it works (starting it with compiz --replace). Now how do I make it run as gnome default?
[06:29] <ezrafree> isn't the time saved between boots in the cpu somehow?
[06:29] <ardchoille> theadmin: hmm.. no idea
[06:29] <ardchoille> doesn't happen here
[06:29] <Blue1> ezrafree: I don't know - I use grub in both ubuntu and suse
[06:29] <ezrafree> DexterLB: have you also installed "fusion-icon"
[06:30] <Marupa> can anyone tell me if it's possible to resize a bios-created raid partition?
[06:30] <Billiard> theadmin: i beleive it has you modify a temporary file, and applies the proper locks when it saves the real crontab
[06:30] <theadmin> Billiard: Ah, I see
[06:30] <ezrafree> DexterLB: if not, install fusion-icon and then set that as a start-up item in gnome
[06:30] <Blue1> Billiard: sounds right
[06:30] <UK-DO> ethernet adpter just wont get configured by DHCP and finding modem from that list is also kinda tricky which one should I choose for PPPoE and dial and update my installtion
[06:30] <ezrafree> Blue1: np, i'll check with the slackware folks
[06:31] <soreau> DexterLB: To make it the default, open gnome-appearance-properties (System > Preferences > Appearance) and set the radio button to anything other than None in the Visual Effects tab.
[06:31] <ardchoille> theadmin: Got a better command, hold on
[06:31] <ezrafree> maybe they have some ideas, appreciate the help though
[06:31] <Blue1> ezrafree: sorry
[06:31] <DexterLB> soreau: yeah I had that in mind
[06:31] <DexterLB> soreau: but it will erase my compiz settings
[06:31] <ardchoille> theadmin:  00 * * * * cd ~/Dropbox/ && rm -rf home-ip.txt && wget whatismyip.org -O /path/home-ip.txt
[06:31] <DexterLB> soreau: I'll first export them to a file
[06:32] <Billiard> ardchoille: you dont need to rm, wget will overwrite
[06:32] <ardchoille> theadmin: of course, change the /path bit
[06:32] <ardchoille> Billiard: Ah, nice to know
[06:32] <Billiard> ardchoille: you dont need to cd either, just specify the whole path
[06:32] <tolpico> Trying to install Hardy Heron 8.04 Server on Virtual box. Assigned 512 MB RAM, 5GB fixed space. Trying to install gives "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!" error. Any ideas what is the problem?
[06:32] <theadmin> ardchoille: %) what's wrong with previous one? Already quit nano :D
[06:32] <ardchoille> theadmin: Nothing really, just trying to get the line as small as possibl, yours will work fine
[06:32] <DexterLB> brb
[06:33] <ardchoille> Billiard: Thanks for the tips :)
[06:33] <Billiard> ardchoille: np
[06:35] <ardchoille> I love this channel, learn something new everday
[06:37] <UK-DO> I have 64 Bit CPU but I'm to install x86 do you think I should download 64 bit K/Ubuntu and is 64 bit OS gonna decrease the # of available apps ?
[06:37] <bazhang> UK-DO, no
[06:38] <theadmin> UK-DO: Normal apps are compiled for both x86 and x64, altough it was a pain to get flash working on x64 someday
[06:38] <Marupa> Wow, would have thought my question was an easy one.
[06:38] <theadmin> ardchoille: ...Okay... now how do I check whether this crontab really works? Is there some "run now"?
[06:39] <theadmin> ardchoille: Also, I don't get it, is crontab one file, or can there be many?
[06:39] <UK-DO> hmm I m still worried bout compatiblity of 64 bit 1st I ll try to make my damn PPP broadband
[06:39] <UK-DO> -work*
[06:39] <ardchoille> theadmin: there is one crontab file for each user, but no limit on how many lines/commands you can have
[06:40] <Blue1> UK-DO: I've no issues with 64 bit (yet)
[06:40] <ardchoille> theadmin: you can always set the time to a minute from now and see if it works
[06:40] <theadmin> ardchoille: Okay, I'll just paste that command and see what it does for me
[06:41] <ardchoille> theadmin: sometimes the terminal handles things differently than cron, you should really set the time amminute ahead and check it that way
[06:41] <theadmin> ardchoille: A minute ahead? %)
[06:41] <theadmin> ardchoille: But it's 9:39 now, it runs every hour
[06:41] <ardchoille> yes, if your time is 22:40, set it to 22:41 and see if it runs
[06:42] <ardchoille> theadmin: 41 21 * * * command
[06:42] <theadmin> Okay... let me try that stuff... oh wait, no can do.
[06:42] <theadmin> My time is kinda synced from servers
[06:42] <Blue1> okay good night folks --
[06:43] <Plimmer> I have a samba share where I want to download files to from my server (share and server is the same thing). I want everyone on the network to be able to save/delete/move/write files to this share. However I cant get my default user to have acces to write to this share.
[06:43] <ardchoille> no, set the time in crontab
[06:43] <Billiard> theadmin: he wants you to change the crontab line
[06:43] <Plimmer> I did a chmod -R 777 /media/share
[06:43] <theadmin> Well, I'll just wait and see what happens after 20 minutes. I have time.
[06:43] <Plimmer> And still nothing.
[06:43] <ardchoille> Plimmer: you need sudo for that
[06:43] <UK-DO> Can someone be kind enough to tell me what the heck is /modem in PPP config app(Kubuntu) forums says use gnome app but how do use gnome app if there is no network
[06:43] <Plimmer> Oh yeah, it was with sudo
[06:43] <ardchoille> Plimmer: ah, ok
[06:44] <Plimmer> But my torrent client isint able to write to that dir.
[06:44] <Plimmer> And I have no idear why.
[06:44] <Marupa> can anyone answer my question about a software raid partition resize?
[06:44] <theadmin> 777, 610... those number-based permissions are confusing.
[06:44] <tolpico> What is the cause of kernel panic error on a brand new installation, virtual box. :--> http://i46.tinypic.com/be5udh.png
[06:44] <ardchoille> Plimmer: sudo chmod -R a+rw
[06:45] <Marupa> theadmin, not so much:  4 = read, 2 = write, 1 = execute.  4+2 = read/write, 4+2+1 = read/write/execute.
[06:45] <ardchoille> That will make it read/write for all users
[06:45] <theadmin> Marupa: 4+2 as in 6?
[06:45] <Marupa> theadmin, yep!
[06:45] <Plimmer> ardchoille: Still not able to.
[06:45] <Billiard> ardchoille: 777 should have already made it all rwx
[06:45] <drmrhorse> how do i keep usb sticks from automounting?
[06:45] <ardchoille> Billiard: yeah
[06:46] <ardchoille> Plimmer: weird
[06:46] <Plimmer> drwxrwxrwx 4 esben esben 4096 2010-01-23 03:40 disk1
[06:46] <Billiard> Plimmer: ls -ld /media/share  shows it as 777?
[06:46] <xnixan> Hi, is there any good SWF player for linux?
[06:46] <theadmin> Can I remove this white Ubuntu logo on boot?
[06:46] <Billiard> xnixan: flashplayer?
[06:46] <Plimmer> drwxrwxrwx 4 esben esben 4096 2010-01-23 03:40 /media/disk1
[06:46] <Marupa> theadmin, and the xxx format is 'self' 'group' 'world'.  so 700 would give you full access but nobody else has access, 770 would be you full access, anyone in your usergroup full access, and nobody else has any access.
[06:46] <Plimmer> disk1 = share
[06:47] <ardchoille> Billiard: I dislike recursive octal settings because some people think it's ok to chmod -R 700 and then wonder why they can't acccess the dir (removed x bit for folders)
[06:47] <Billiard> ardchoille: i woudnt do it either, but he already did it, and it should be writable
[06:47] <ardchoille> yeah, good point
[06:47] <xnixan> Billiard, thanks, but i think i was not clear, i need a player with controllers for pausing, rewind, and forward!
[06:48] <robb> mplayer!
[06:48] <Billiard> xnixan: rewinding swf?
[06:48] <theadmin> xnixan: Hm, I think VLC plays this stuff... there is nothing so far it did not play for me :D
[06:48] <ardchoille> xnixan: xine plays .swf files
[06:48] <robb> oh, swf
[06:48] <UK-DO> Plz xplain bit bout this so I can get my damn broadband work for Kubuntu "Boot the installer with modules=ppp-udeb as boot parameter......"
[06:48] <xnixan> Billiard, yes!
[06:48] <ardchoille> xnixan: isn't that a bit like rewinding a dvd?
[06:48]  * ardchoille hides
[06:48] <robb> i think it supports flv
[06:48] <robb> is not quite the same tho?
[06:49] <xnixan> ardchoille, yup!
[06:49] <Billiard> Plimmer: your torrent client is on the same machine or trying to write through samba share?
[06:50] <Plimmer> Yes
[06:50] <theadmin> Anyway, any good download manager with support for HTTP AND torrents? I don't like running both gwget and transmission.
[06:50] <Billiard> Plimmer: wasnt a yes/no question
[06:50] <Plimmer> The share and torrent client is on the same machine
[06:51] <Billiard> Plimmer: ok, which torrent client? and it tells you doesnt have write permission? you sure you are saving to the correct directory?
[06:51] <Plimmer> rtorrent
[06:51] <Plimmer> God..
[06:51] <Plimmer> 2 secs
[06:52] <ardchoille> Billiard: "do you want a red one or a blue one".. "yes!" hehe
[06:52] <UK-DO> How do I do this Plz Plz clarify a bit >>>>"Boot the installer with modules=ppp-udeb as boot parameter."
[06:53] <UK-DO> How do I boot with any parameters
[06:53] <Plimmer> It wasent saving the right place.. Thats a couple of hours I'll never see again.
[06:54] <drmrhorse> how do i keep usb sticks from automounting?
[06:54] <theadmin> UK-DO: It seems like you need to press some key in installer... uhm... I don't know, which lets you modify the boot parameters, and just add modules=ppp-udeb at the end of line
[06:55] <Billiard> drmrhorse: gnome-volume-manager handles that i believe, so you could try disabling it maybe
[06:55] <UK-DO> theadmin: If I don't do that I wont be able to install and use my broadband it goes through PPP
[06:56] <UK-DO> Thats why I'm looking up on google too
[06:56] <drmrhorse> hmm ty
[06:57] <theadmin> UK-DO: I've no idea, there is this little gnome-ppp (or kppp) package for that... I configured my PPTP-VPN single-handely when installing the OS. Resolving dependencies manually was a mess, cause installing the packages with no internet is a pain in... well, basically everywhere
[06:57] <drmrhorse> Billiard: i dont see gnome-volume-manager anywhere
[06:58] <UK-DO> I decided to go with Kubuntu I tried live CD too but KPPP fails to start network
[06:58] <Billiard> drmrhorse: anywhere? where did you look
[06:58] <drmrhorse> gconf
[06:58] <Plazma> /awa
[06:58] <Billiard> drmrhorse: could try uninstalling it
[06:58] <drmrhorse> that doesnt seem wise
[06:59] <Billiard> drmrhorse: if there are problems just reinstall it
[06:59] <drmrhorse> right
[07:00] <Karhu> hi everyone...i have an nvidia tnt2 card installed running kubuntu 8.10...i have insalled the restricted nvidia driver for my card but for some reason everything still seems very sluggish eg. webpages seem laggy when i scroll through them and i was wondering if anyone here had any ideas as to why its like that
[07:00] <kaushal> hi
[07:00] <omologos> hi
[07:01] <kaushal> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/099 --> what does file(*) means ?
[07:01] <omologos> does anybody know why java isn't included in ubuntu?
[07:01] <darthanubis> omologos, because it is java
[07:01] <darthanubis> !java
[07:02] <Marupa> I've got a software(fake) raid set up that already has windows installed, how would I set it up so that linux can read this partition?
[07:02] <omologos> i've already installed java
[07:02] <darthanubis> !dmraid
[07:02] <omologos> i'm just curious why isn't it preinstalled if it's GPL
[07:02] <darthanubis> omologos, I did not ask you that
[07:03] <darthanubis> there are alot of GPL stuff not preisntalled
[07:03] <omologos> darthanubis: no, it was I who asked...
[07:03] <Marupa> darthanubis: apparently that didn't do anything?
[07:03] <omologos> yeah, but java is a very commonly needed thing
[07:03] <darthanubis> maybe you thought ubuntu was mint?
[07:03] <theadmin> ardchoille: My thank you, it worked very smooth, I didn't even notice anything.
[07:04] <theadmin> omologos: Yeah, and mp3 codecs too, yet you don't complain about them ;) not everybody needs it.
[07:04] <Billiard> omologos: probably because it is not needed by everyone and it is somewhat large, i dont use any java software
[07:04] <omologos> ah, ok
[07:05] <UK-DO> Ok thanks for the help I ll install the Kubuntu 1st worry bout broadband later :\
[07:07] <Karhu> noone can help with my graphics issues?
[07:07] <theadmin> Karhu: If nobody anwers, nobody knows... but what are the issues?
[07:08] <Karhu> im running an nvidia tnt2 card with kububuntu 8.10 with restricted drivers installed but everything still seems very sluggish graphically
[07:08] <Karhu> was just wondering if anyone had any ideas
[07:08] <Billiard> Karhu: are the drivers enabled?
[07:08] <theadmin> Karhu: sluggish? Like, is the image blurry or something?
[07:08] <Karhu> yeah they are enabled
[07:09] <Billiard> Karhu: how did you install the drivers?
[07:09] <Karhu> no sluggish like webpages etc seem to be laggy when they scroll
[07:09] <Karhu> through the hardware thingo
[07:09] <theadmin> Karhu: Maybe it's a memory issue?
[07:09] <Karhu> hardware drivers manager
[07:10] <thinkertinker> Hi there,The option for connecting Internet via blue-tooth doesn't seem to work in my Ubuntu9.10. NM ,Network-Manager Applet 0.7.996,Is this a known issue or am i wrong somewhere?
[07:10] <Karhu> hmm well i only have 512Mb RAM but it ran perfectly fine with windows xp
[07:10] <theadmin> Karhu: Ah... 512? Kubuntu was incredibly slow with that for me... you should try using GNOME over KDE, it works smoother
[07:10] <Karhu> i tried gnome and it was just the same :-(
[07:11] <theadmin> Karhu: Hm, then it's not the problem
[07:11] <daeo> got a question about installing 9.10 , it seems the installer is stuck on detecting my harddrives and setting up the partitioner how may I find out if there are any errors? im currently in the live cd run right now
[07:12] <Karhu> i have seen pc's run like this on windows when there were no drivers installed
[07:12] <theadmin> daeo: Have you checked whether the CD is burned and downloaded correctly?
[07:12] <Billiard> daeo: did you verify the cd burned correctly?
[07:12] <bazhang> daeo, did you md5 the iso before burning at a very low speed? do the disk integrity check as well?
[07:12] <daeo> it was ordered from the website i got it yesterday
[07:12] <daeo> so im sure the cd is good
[07:12] <cjae> !pictures
[07:12] <k0sh> will ubuntu autodetect properietary drivers and install them? i try to deploy system on many desktops via network-booting and want to know if such procedure autoexist in ubuntu
[07:12] <daeo> ok now i just got an error..
[07:12] <k0sh> ?
[07:13] <daeo> ubiquity.components.partman failed with exit code 141
[07:13] <daeo> checking /var/log/syslog
[07:13] <bazhang> daeo, getting the cd in the mail is not a guarantee the disk is good
[07:14] <daeo> well everything but this one part seems to be fine.. odd
[07:14] <daeo> checking the log file now..
[07:14] <Billiard> k0sh: some will show up under the hardware drivers section from the menu, such as nvidia video drivers
[07:15] <cjae> daeo: the disc has a check option upon booting it - not that thats the problem
[07:15] <theadmin> Well, k0sh, here we have this kinda thing: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2012912/Screenshot.png didn't see anything like his on KDE.
[07:16] <daeo> right, ok so assuming is not the cd.. i was able to open the disk manager in the menus and saw all of my drives
[07:16] <daeo> so what might I check to find my issue? im not getting much from syslog
[07:16] <daeo> well rather i can't understand it
[07:16] <k0sh> theadmin: what im looking for is some automatic way to setup proper drivers, probably before x starts, since i want to have one nfsroot from which all desktops will use it
[07:17] <theadmin> k0sh: o_O I don't know how to set them up with no X, except for installing the packages manually
[07:17] <cjae> daeo: are trying to dual boot or do you have ms windows drives in the machine (ntfs)
[07:17] <Karhu> ok everybody thanks very much for your time maybe this load of updates im installing will help the issue :-)
[07:17] <MHz128> hi all
[07:17] <daeo> yes, when i was on 8.10 i would dual boot and am trying to install over it so yes very much so am i doing that
[07:17] <theadmin> Hi, MHz128
[07:18] <daeo> primay disc is win xp
[07:18] <daeo> 2nd is going to be my reinstall of ubuntu
[07:18] <MHz128> I am unable to browse the web while connecting to a WPA2 router, however, another WEP router works just fine. I keep getting 'unable to resolve host' ... any ideas?
[07:18] <k0sh> theadmin: thx i guess :)
[07:18] <theadmin> k0sh: No problem, altough I did not help >_<
[07:18] <MHz128> both connections are strong, and my native rtl8187 driver works great
[07:19] <cjae> daeo: I dont think the linux ntfs driver needs to have the ntfs drives in *good shape* as much as it did before but it is good habbit to make sure that they are
[07:19] <k0sh> theadmin: nah, you helped, at least i know more or less how it looks like :)
[07:19] <MHz128> Under Windows, I am able to connect to the WPA encrypted router... linux, not so much :p
[07:22] <daeo> ok might there be a way for me to skip the ntfs drive scanning? i'd like for it to see windows but not waste its time i suppose... and i'd rather not spend 3 hours waiting for windows to defrag
[07:23] <cjae> daeo: you could also try downloading and installing from an alternate install disc (these have tend to have more options) and make sure your bios settings are good
[07:24] <theadmin> Sigh, another disconnect :/
[07:24] <firestrider> hey does ubuntu do ram prefetching
[07:24] <cjae> daeo: I had a dual boot system the same for many release installs, and have run into problems with the live installer especially naming the drives incorrectly
[07:25] <abumaia> I'm a relatively new linux user, been mucking about with ubuntu for about 2 weeks now.  Do I need to be looking at any antivirus and firewall programs?
[07:25] <theadmin> cjae: Naming? /dev/sda1 is /dev/sda1, and that's all %)
[07:25] <daeo> hrm
[07:25] <theadmin> abumaia: No, Ubuntu is safe from viruses
[07:25] <theadmin> abumaia: Quite as any Linux system
[07:26] <abumaia> ok.. how about firewalls?
[07:26] <theadmin> abumaia: Depending on whether you want them or not :D
[07:26] <daeo> cjae: so im in a pickle here i'd rather _not_ have to download it thats why i ordered the cd... is there no other way?
[07:26] <cjae> daeo: eg. for 6.06 to 8,04 reinstalls windows = /dev/sda all of a sudden 8.10 windows =/dev/sdb and boot laoder was added to wrong mbr
[07:27] <cjae> daeo: just letting you know of my troubles with live installers
[07:27] <daeo> i see
[07:27] <firestrider> you know of any businesses that use linux clients
[07:27] <daeo> well i didn't actually pick the live install
[07:27] <daeo> when i started the install i did the regular install option not, let me see and try
[07:27] <daeo> so after it hung the first time i canceled the installer and it took me to the live run
[07:28] <theadmin> This "Install Ubuntu" on 9.04 CD did not work for me, black screen
[07:28] <theadmin> But all went fine from Live session ^_^
[07:29] <iceroot> firestrider: sure but that is offtopic
[07:29] <abumaia> my 9.10 install(s) went fine both Live and straight from the cd boot menu
[07:30] <firestrider> sigh I'm always off topic
[07:30] <daeo> ok so assuming its not the installer ... how else can i proceed?
[07:30] <Blue1> i have a cyberpower cp550sl ups - where can I find software for it?  coming up dry on google
[07:30] <Blue1> !hcl | blue1
[07:30] <abumaia> Blue1: their website doesn't have anything for you?
[07:31] <Blue1> abumaia: i haven't seen any I'll keep looking -- it shipped with only windoze software
[07:32] <Blue1> abumaia: it just says this in the hcl:  genericups upstype=7
[07:32] <cyrus_mc> I am trying to do something like find /etc/conf.d | tar cfv to create an archive frmo the files in conf.d but the tar command isn't workign. Anyone know how to do that
[07:33] <abumaia> Blue1: oh yeah, the website has Linux software for that UPS
[07:33] <daeo> ok thanks for the help given.. i suppose i won't be getting anywhere with this then.
[07:33] <abumaia> 32 (and 64) bit Shutdown software for HID USB and serial UPS
[07:33] <cjae> daeo: fix ntfs first, then check cd then come back and ask
[07:34] <Blue1> abumaia: ahh let me try it thanks
[07:34] <cjae> daeo: http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/pub/releases/karmic/  the alternate disc is one the page
[07:37] <MHz128> hi
[07:37] <MHz128> how do I clearn the dns cache?
[07:37] <MHz128> clear
[07:38] <Billiard> MHz128: i beleive ubuntu doesnt have any sort of dns cache by default
[07:39] <MHz128> oh
[07:39] <Blue1> abumaia: okay it's installed but how do I run it?
[07:40] <abumaia> Blue1:  sorry, but I have no idea.  I just went to the website to confirm if they had linux software available, I don't have any of their products.
[07:40] <dragon> How do I check whether my OS is 32-bit or 64-bit? It's Friday night, so someone needs to remind me.
[07:41] <mneptok> dragon: uname -a
[07:41] <hiexpo> good evening all
[07:41] <dragon> mneptok: Linux hostname 2.6.31-17-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 10 16:20:31 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:41] <mneptok> dragon: right
[07:41] <dragon> mneptok: does that mean i386?
[07:41] <mneptok> dragon: yes
[07:42] <iceroot> dragon: dpkg --print-architecture
[07:42] <dragon> iceroot: that's a better one, thanks.
[07:42] <iceroot> dragon: but more to write :(
[07:42] <dragon> though `uname -a` would work on all UNIX systems I think.
[07:43] <dragon> iceroot: autocomplete FTW
[07:43] <dragon> :)
[07:43] <iceroot> dragon: correct, mine is only working on debian based distris
[07:43] <abumaia> iceroot: does that show if you have a 64-capable processor, or just whether you have the 32 or 64 version of ubuntu installed?
[07:43] <iceroot> abumaia: its showing what you have installed
[07:43] <dragon> abumaia: the version of OS, that is, ubuntu
[07:44] <abumaia> how do you find out if your processor is 64-capable?
[07:44] <dragon> abumaia: grep lm /proc/cpuinfo
[07:44] <iceroot> abumaia: lm in /proc/cpuinfo
[07:44] <dragon> abumaia: if there's lm under flags, your processor supports 64-bit OSes.
[07:44] <iceroot> abumaia: imo lm stands for large memory i think
[07:45] <abumaia> yeah, it shows up twice
[07:45] <abumaia> sweet, next time I do a reinstall, I'll try the 64 version
[07:45] <dragon> abumaia: most of the newer machines (intel core etc.) are 64-bit.
[07:46] <iceroot> abumaia: you only need 64bit if you have 4gb and more
[07:46] <dragon> iceroot: 3GiB
[07:46] <abumaia> hmm, nope, only got 3gb ram
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> 64bit can help math intensive tasks also. like video reencoding and so forth
[07:46] <abumaia> I do run a lot of BOINC though
[07:46] <iceroot> dragon: 3gb ram + adrress bus should be fine with 32bit
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> i  also found it easier to go all 64bit on my 4 pc  Lan. that way i can cach the same packages on one server. :)
[07:47] <dragon> My P4 box had the lm flag present for some reason. I'm running 64-bit karmic on it now.
[07:49] <Gnea> hrm, isn't there a way to get java to work in firefox 3.5 for 9.04?
[07:49] <Gnea> I've tried installing the !java way, but no go
[07:49] <iceroot> Gnea: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[07:50] <dragon> Gnea: did you install the plugin the iceroot way?
[07:50] <Gnea> it's still downloading
[07:50] <iceroot> Gnea: i had the same problem some days ago, i was download jre and not the plugin
[07:51] <Gnea> well it's almost done :)
[07:51] <abumaia> I had that same problem when I first installed ubuntu.  It's a little confusing for a newbie ^_^
[07:51] <keepsake> Any way to change audio codecs in karmic? My sound quality is trash.
[07:51] <hiexpo> i have boticed a lot of the times it can be a 64 bit processor but only be a 32 bit system
[07:52] <iceroot> hiexpo: sure
[07:52] <iceroot> hiexpo: amd64 cpus can run 32bit nativ
[07:52] <hiexpo> yep
[07:52] <hiexpo> thats what mine is
[07:53] <hiexpo> i have ro throtle mine down cause it gets to hot sometimes
[07:53] <UK-DO> Hello guys I need some criticle help for setting up ppp broadband I tried hard but I cant seem to make it work
[07:54] <Gnea> iceroot: thank you :)
[07:54] <iceroot> Gnea: np
[07:54] <dragon> UK-DO: how far did you get?
[07:55] <atomfox> Need help trying to edit /etc/xdg/menus/application.menu but the changes I made don't apply
[07:56] <UK-DO> I installed kubuntu and configured my Username password and phone no
[07:56] <UK-DO> but it needs to configure modem I cant do that
[07:56] <UK-DO> Phone no is not really phone no its server name "abc/abc"
[07:57] <atomfox> anyone?
[07:57] <kermiac> hey ppl anyone use quassel & know how to ignore CTCP or Version requests from the spam bots? I can't seem to get it right
[07:58] <kermiac> I asked in #quassel, but maybe they're all asleep?
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> UK-DO:  how are you connecting exactly?
[07:58] <iceroot> kermiac: /ignore * CTCP  or something like that. look at /help ignore
[07:58] <kermiac> ty iceroot. I'll give that a try :)
[07:58] <iceroot> kermiac: /IGNORE * CTCPS
[07:59] <abumaia> atomfox:  sudo gedit /etc/xdg/menus/application.menu ?
[07:59] <iceroot> !gksudo | abumaia
[07:59] <UK-DO> 1st it needs to connect LAN then dial a server to start broadband thorugh PPP
[07:59] <UK-DO> everything goes throuh ethernet twisted pair
[08:00] <atomfox> abumaia, I edited it already the problem is it dont apply to my menu bar, the things I added does not appear on my menu bar :(
[08:00] <iceroot> atomfox: you have to restart the menu-bar/panel
[08:00] <abumaia> iceroot:  I'm still trying to figure out when something is graphical or not.  ^_^
[08:01] <iceroot> abumaia: everything starting with g is grapchical norally
[08:01] <abumaia> atomfox: did a logout-login not help?
[08:01] <owen1> what's the name of this multiplayer game - ball-shaped creatures that shoots on each other, and have catch the flag option as well. they also have ropes they can use to jump.
[08:01] <atomfox> nope
[08:01] <iceroot> abumaia: but of course you want sudo vim instead of gksudo gedit :)
[08:02] <atomfox> abumaia, nope
[08:02] <abumaia> hehe.  I'm still new to this, not sure if I'm ready yet to move up from gedit ^_^
[08:02] <owen1> abumaia: no worries. vim is a life-changing tool
[08:02] <robb> aren't they all
[08:03] <iceroot> abumaia: yes the first time you see vim you will be afraid but ofter some time you will see how mich powerfull vim is
[08:03] <UK-DO> I cant really understand this bcoz I'm still a newbie otherwise I could have tried this to install PPP during Kubuntu install  >>>>>> Installing over PPPoE is mostly the same as any other installation. The following steps explain the differences.Boot the installer with modules=ppp-udeb as boot parameter. This means that at the boot prompt you should enter:
[08:05] <NotTooSmart> why does my swap some times work on boot, and others not load, and when I try to do sudo swapon -a it says, swapon: /dev/mapper/cryptoswap: open failed: No such device or address
[08:06] <abumaia> it's almost like learning a different language.  you have to use different forms of some words depending on what you're talking about, just like you have to use different forms of sudo depending on what you're running ^_^
[08:08] <CoJaBo-Aztec> I have a source file that includes #include <openssl/bn.h>. What needs to be installed to make this work?
[08:08] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Is there a dev package or something? The obvious, apt-get install openssl, reports its already installed.
[08:08] <Slart> NotTooSmart: how is your swap defined in fstab?
[08:09] <NotTooSmart> Slart:
[08:09] <NotTooSmart> /dev/mapper/cryptoswap none swap sw 0 0
[08:09] <iceroot> CoJaBo-Aztec: try apt-file search bn.h  (before install apt-file and run sudo apt-file update)
[08:09] <Slart> CoJaBo-Aztec: libssl-dev is the one you're looking for..
[08:10] <UK-DO> I think it was easier in Ubuntu 8.10 I could configure SLIP connection and network would start as it should be. So is there no way I can make it work for Kubuntu 9.10
[08:10] <Slart> CoJaBo-Aztec: and I agree with iceroot.. apt-file is a wonderful little tool for these kinds of problems
[08:10] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Thanks, that should turn out to be very helpful o_O
[08:10] <CoJaBo-Aztec>  sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
[08:11] <CoJaBo-Aztec> oops
[08:11] <Slart> !find openssl/bn.h
[08:11] <Slart> ubottu is also a nice tool =)
[08:11] <CoJaBo-Aztec> lol
[08:11] <iceroot> Slart: but not intelligent :)
[08:11] <Slart> iceroot: hehe
[08:11] <CoJaBo-Aztec> I guess thats why they call it a "tool"...
[08:11] <CoJaBo-Aztec> LOL
[08:12] <Slart> NotTooSmart: could it be a race condition? that /dev/mapper isn't created when it tries to mount the swap?
[08:12] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Yay, it compiles now! xD
[08:12] <NotTooSmart> Slart: my encrypted drive always works ... and /dev/mapper/cryptoswap is always created
[08:13] <FIlalet> Hi everyone
[08:13] <Slart> NotTooSmart: no error messages in syslog or kern.log?
[08:13] <NotTooSmart> Slart: how do I check?
[08:13] <UK-DO> I ll try this "install modules=ppp-udeb" lessee what happens :\
[08:14] <Slart> NotTooSmart: gedit /var/log/syslog    and   gedit /var/log/kern.log    try searching from the end
[08:15] <iflema> Slart tail
[08:15] <NotTooSmart> Slart: Jan 22 06:27:15 media kernel: [56884.010887] FAT: Directory bread(block 275) failed but its not FAT ?
[08:16] <infid> how come karmic doesn't have an ~/.Xauthority file?
[08:16] <Slart> iflema: we're looking for an error message that has happened sometimes during the last couple of boots.. might as well look at the entire file
[08:17] <UK-DO> The PPPoE connection set up during the installation will also be available after the reboot into the installed system (see Chapter 7,Booting Into Your New Ubuntu System). <<<<<<<<<< ANY help bout this
[08:17] <Slart> NotTooSmart: never seen that message before.. not really sure what it means..
[08:17] <abumaia> On a previous installation, I told ubuntu to install with an encrypted home directory.  But whenever I logged in, I was unable to use synaptic, update manager, pretty much any program that asks for a password before starting.  It only did that when the home directory was encrypted.  When I reinstalled with an unencrypted home, everything worked as it should.  Is there something special that needs to be done when using an encrypted home, to make those prog
[08:17] <iflema> Slart more
[08:17] <kaushal> checking in again for my query ?
[08:18] <Slart> iflema: got something against gedit? why not "cat" when we're at it?
[08:18] <NotTooSmart> Slart: it is actually a server install ;-P
[08:18] <iflema> Slart yeah good one.... ill put a screen lock on asap ;)
[08:19]  * iflema busted
[08:19] <Slart> iflema: =)
[08:19] <Slart> NotTooSmart: ahem.. well.. =)
[08:19] <NotTooSmart> so if the device is created, and referenced correctly in /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab
[08:19] <NotTooSmart> what can the problem be
[08:19] <isolat3dsh33p> I'm watching a movie from a shared folder in my friends computer and it's always get stuck, is there anyway to make it faster besides downloading the file from the network?
[08:21] <Slart> NotTooSmart: I can't really think of any other reason for it to work *some* of the time...
[08:21] <NotTooSmart> Slart: me either
[08:24] <NotTooSmart> Slart: well I think I just fixed it by re-creating the swap partition
[08:25] <abumaia> that sounds almost face-palm worthy
[08:25] <Slart> NotTooSmart: huh? I'm happy for you.. but I still don't understand why that would work
[08:25] <NotTooSmart> Slart: alright, neither do I
[08:27] <NotTooSmart> Slart: Probably because your right and on reboot it goes back to not working.
[08:27]  * iflema little shit
[08:27] <NotTooSmart> lol
[08:28] <Slart> NotTooSmart: you could of course try not mounting the swap in the fstab and create a script that runs on boot with a sleep 10; create swap
[08:29] <Slart> NotTooSmart: but that's kind of like giving up =)
[08:29] <NotTooSmart> Slart: yea, but its kind of easy ;-p
[08:30] <NotTooSmart> do you have ideas on how to fix the problem then :-)
[08:31] <zetheroo> I wish F-spot would not create a copy of all my photos ... isn't there some app that uses a database or something to sort the pics instead of physically creating duplicates of everything?
[08:31] <Slart> NotTooSmart: nope.. I've been googling about swap and encryption.. haven't found anything useful yet
[08:32] <NotTooSmart> Slart: /etc/crypttab is also involved
[08:32] <infid> why doesn't ubuntu 9.10 come with an ~/.Xauthority file?
[08:32] <NotTooSmart> Slart: cryptoswap /dev/sda5 /dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 is the line im using
[08:33] <ghostknife> With the new ubuntu's there is no xorg.conf by default. I need to add some settings to xorg.conf, how can I generate one with my current settings so I can change it. I don't want to create one and have to struggle to get settings into it that matches my current working configuration.
[08:33] <EmLeX> nvidia-xconfigure?
[08:34] <EmLeX> nvidia-xconfig*
[08:34] <EmLeX> ghostknife:
[08:35] <Slart> infid: here's some info on that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RemoteXHowTo
[08:35] <ghostknife> EmLeX: thanks. "aticonfig --initial" seemed to generate something. Now just to try it out
[08:36] <trollboy> is the weather app not updating for anyone else?
[08:36] <EmLeX> ah u have ati sorry
[08:36] <robertneville777> Whatsup guys!
[08:36] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[08:36] <abumaia> trollboy: which weather app?
[08:36] <infid> slart heh i'm actually already reading that, but that tells me it creates a file in /tmp, but i've looked in there and it didnt
[08:36] <Duder> hi, i need to make a bootable usb install disk of ubuntu that will run on computers which do not support booting from usb
[08:37] <bazhang> Duder, that does not make sense
[08:37] <Duder> Can unetbootin format the usb disk to cdfs
[08:37] <dnm_> i am using a dual boot .. while ubuntu tells me i am out of space .. windows tell me i have 1gb on the drive
[08:37] <Slart> infid: hmm.. same thing here... odd
[08:37] <Duder> i did it before with windows 7
[08:37] <dnm_> help plz
[08:38] <infid> slart i'm reading the xauth man page and i think i need to do the xauth extract stuff to get the cookie on the client machine
[08:38] <EmLeX> have any1 tested if it is any delay whit full hdd encryption on things in ubuntu?
[08:38] <Duder> then my bios recognized my usb as a cd
[08:38] <dcntrct> Hi.  I would like to upgrade my Jaunty Jackalope to a Karmic Koala but when I attempt to do so it says it plans to REMOVE mysql5-server.  That scares the crap out of me... does that mean my database data will disappear ?!
[08:38] <rumpsy> dcntrct: i think it will not
[08:39] <dnm_> i am using a dual boot .. while ubuntu tells me i am out of space .. windows tell me i have 1gb on the drive ... any help
[08:39] <dcntrct> hrmmm... "I think" is not reassuring enough... I suppose I will have to figure out how to backup my data ;)
[08:39] <rumpsy> take a backup of your db and tables if you afraid of
[08:39] <joyce_> Hello can someone please tell me how to match all files that are not jpg|gif|png|ico in FilesMatch directive of apache
[08:39] <Slart> infid: well.. I suppose the man pages should be trusted.. I don't have a better alternative solution
[08:39] <dcntrct> yeah
[08:39] <dcntrct> thanks
[08:39] <Kvist> l
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  if your linux filesystems are full.. they are full or getting full.  you did a normal install? not a Wubi Install?
[08:40] <spersaud> what will be the next release of ubuntu ?
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  or are you refering to the windows fileysstems?
[08:40] <bazhang> spersaud, April
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> !release | spersaud
[08:40] <abumaia> spersaud, 10.04 Lucid Lynx, in april
[08:40] <dnm_> dr_willis: i am not sure on that .. i get htis pop up on my ubuntu interface telling i have 170mb free space
[08:41] <actionparsnip> Dnm_: does df -h say the same?
[08:41] <glassresistor> so i just "upgraded" to an ssd on my dell inspion 1545 thinkin it would give me another hour or so of battery life but its actually cut it down an hour
[08:41] <dnm_> actionparsnip: wats df -h
[08:41] <actionparsnip> Dnm_: a terminal command
[08:42] <abumaia> glassresistor:  downgrade to the original drive then?
[08:42] <dnm_> actionparsnip: k can you feed me in more on that
[08:42] <glassresistor> im running karmic on ext2 with most of my IO set to tmpfs
[08:42] <Slart> glassresistor: hmm.. I was thinking of doing the same on my laptop.. wonder why that is
[08:42] <actionparsnip> Dnm_ open a terminal and type "df -h" without the "s
[08:42] <NotTooSmart> Slart: maybe i should go about writing that script ;-p
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  empty the 'trash' and perhaps clean out stuff you dont need.   check your filesystems to see what all is taking up space. How big is your / filesystem and your  /home ?
[08:42] <glassresistor> abumaia: well yeah maybe go back but it boots much faster and programs are snappier but im still confused as to why
[08:43] <spersaud> what are the benefits of Ubuntu vs Debian ?
[08:43] <actionparsnip> Dnm_: same free space?
[08:43] <actionparsnip> !ot | spersaud
[08:43] <dnm_> actionparsnip: did tat
[08:43] <glassresistor> spersaud: ubuntu is easier debian is more open
[08:43] <iceroot> spersaud: debian = stable without usability, ubuntu = not stable like debian with usability
[08:43] <actionparsnip> Dnm: does it give the same result for free space?
[08:43] <EmLeX> have any1 gotn a 1400x900 tty1 shell before cant pick that res in grub2
[08:44] <glassresistor> is there a tool for listing the different devices power usage in real time?
[08:44] <iceroot> glassresistor: maybe powertop
[08:44] <Slart> NotTooSmart: try asking the channel again.. perhaps someone else has run into the same problem
[08:44] <actionparsnip> Emlex: its a setting in. /etc/default/grub read this:
[08:45] <actionparsnip> !grub2 | emlex
[08:45] <dnm_> actionparsnip: sent u teh feedback to a sepertae window
[08:45] <glassresistor> iceroot: powertop tells me what an apps power consumption is
[08:45] <glassresistor> iceroot: and it just keeps saying i should auto suspend my usb
[08:45] <dnm_> dr_willis: the trash u mean is the one on the mainpage rite ???
[08:46] <iceroot> glassresistor: ah ok, the sorry
[08:46] <zetheroo> in ##linux a guy is saying that in Ubuntu you don't use sudo to enter your root password ?!
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  err.. yes.. the trashcan. :)
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  sudo is for the USERS password
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  theres no default root user password
[08:46] <dnm_> dr_willis: tats empty
[08:47] <trollboy> Weather Report 2.28.0 is failing to update, is this happening for anyone else?
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  time to learn some linux basics and how your filesystems are laid out and figure out where your space went. How much space did  You allocate to linux anyway>
[08:47] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: so is that a security issue?
[08:47] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: cause that is whats being said
[08:47] <spersaud> Dr_Willis: are you really a PHD or of the like ?
[08:47] <sebsebseb> !noroot |  zetheroo
[08:48] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: can you install Ubuntu without setting a sudo password?
[08:48] <trollboy> spacey, Dr_Willis did his post-doctorate work at evil university
[08:48] <dnm_> dr_willis:  u r rite ... i think when i was installing it .. it asked me the same question .. i dont remember what i entered .. i think 4 or 8 gb
[08:48] <sebsebseb> zetheroo: by the default  you just use sudo when you want root for anything
[08:48] <iceroot> zetheroo: without sudo you cant manage your system
[08:48] <Slart> zetheroo: not really a security issue.. you use the same password to access sudo as you do to login..
[08:48] <zetheroo> right ...
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  whats a security issue?    the phrase 'sudo password' is incorrect. You set up sudo to allow USERS to do specicif things.. its the users password they enter to gain sudo privialges
[08:48] <trollboy> Hi OhioEric what part of ohio?
[08:49] <zetheroo> but can you leave the password area blank when installing Ubuntu?
[08:49] <sebsebseb> zetheroo: maybe, but that woudn't be a good idea
[08:49] <iceroot> zetheroo: dont do something like that
[08:49] <sebsebseb> zetheroo: you should have a password with letters and numbers at least
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  sounds like you shoudl of allocated more space.. 4gb is very tiny.. 8gb is useable.. if you are carefull time to clean out stuff.. or get more space.
[08:49] <Slart> zetheroo: sudo offers you a bit mre granularity.. ie you can allow one user to only run the backup software as root.. but he/she can't run other commands.. with a root password it's all or nothing
[08:49] <sebsebseb> zetheroo: and at least 8 characters I would say, but I guess the longer the better really
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  i doubt if the installer will let you enter a blank user password.
[08:50] <zetheroo> hmmm ok
[08:50] <dnm_> dr_willis:  i would like the second option .. how do i get more space
[08:50] <iceroot> !tab | dnm_
[08:50] <zetheroo> basically they are saying to not use a debian distro is security matters to me ...
[08:50] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: well 123 has been possible, if I remember correctly
[08:50] <Slart> Dr_Willis: I think it will complain at least.. it does that when I use 4 letter passwords for my account.. but it creates them
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  live cd and gparted and resize.. or reinstall. and give it more space.
[08:50] <neil_d> I am having trouble with a raid1 setup.. I am trying to test if all the setups are done right, by turning the computer off, removing a HDD and seeing if it will boot...  grub is installed on both HDD and I do get a menu :) but it doesn't boot.  :( I can manage to get it to start the (initramfs) :)  but the raid1 isn't configured properly... can someone help?
[08:50] <Slart> Dr_Willis: that's in a vm, btw... not on my real system
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> Slart:  yea. I always use the same password normally :) so o dont try others.
[08:51]  * Dr_Willis recalls a bug a few releases back where you could make a initial user with the name 'root' :)
[08:51] <Slart> zetheroo: buy a good book on linux security and systems management.. it will do more to secure your system than selecting some special distro
[08:51] <dnm_> dr_willis:  i dont want to unistall n reinstall
[08:51] <leofenghuang> 难道没有中国人？
[08:52] <OhioEric> Cleveland
[08:52] <zetheroo> Slart: right
[08:52] <theadmin> !ch | leofenghuang
[08:52] <bazhang> leofenghuang, /join #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[08:52] <dnm_> dr_willis:  is there an easier option
[08:52] <iceroot> dnm_: type dr and then press the tab-key (two arrows on it)
[08:52] <glassresistor> iceroot: is not problem thanks for the help but any idea on how switchin an hd can increase power usae
[08:52] <OhioEric> for whomever asked
[08:52] <maco> !cn | leofenghuang
[08:52] <zetheroo> in Ubuntu the user password is what is used to gain root level privileges - no?
[08:52] <bazhang> theadmin, its cn or zh or tw
[08:52] <Slart> zetheroo: yes
[08:52] <dnm_> iceroot: thanks .. that was helpful :-)
[08:52] <hyperstream> Why would urlsnarf or wireshark stop internet traffic on an airbase-ng  soft AP(when a client is connect and its using the wlan0 to provide net to wlan2(SoftAP) its also very slow(with good signal)
[08:52] <theadmin> bazhang: Sorry, messed a bit
[08:52] <Slart> zetheroo: if your user is an admin user, that is
[08:52] <zetheroo> Slart: ok
[08:53] <iceroot> zetheroo: maybe have a look at  man sudo
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:   gparted to resize or reinstall.. pick one..  or make a new partition to put /home on and leave the 8gb just for / , If you just got 4gb for / - then I suggest  making it at least 10gb
[08:53] <theadmin> my first shell script, yay :D... okay, sorry, this was offtopic
[08:53] <zetheroo> this is utter bs ... "(19:22:54) valan: zetheroo perhaps in the last year they changed the default, but a year ago you didn't need a password at all to access root via sudo" ...
[08:53] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: gparted to resize
[08:53] <Slart> zetheroo: bs..
[08:53] <gerard> p2000
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> You can set it where you dont need a password to sudo... but thats not reccomended. :)
[08:54] <Slart> zetheroo: it's been the same way for at least 3 years or so
[08:54] <theadmin> zetheroo: No... I did use Ubuntu around a year, you always needed a password to gain root
[08:54] <zetheroo> exactly
[08:54] <iceroot> zetheroo: in every ubuntu and debian relase you need a password for sudo by default
[08:54] <Slart> zetheroo: but we can only speak for the ubuntu distros.. there are lots of derivatives out there
[08:55] <zetheroo> I have used it since 2005 and always needed my admin password
[08:55] <hyperstream> zetheroo, sudo su -
[08:55] <hyperstream> zetheroo, careful with it.
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> sudo su - is redundant. :)
[08:55] <zetheroo> Slart: well he is talking about Ubuntu
[08:55] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, i use it daily :)
[08:55] <theadmin> What's that, sudo su? sudo -i is the recommended way
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> hyperstream:  learn better habbits
[08:55] <hyperstream> theadmin, whats the difference?
[08:56] <iceroot> hyperstream: environment
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> hyperstream:  envirimental settings
[08:56] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, no thank you, im fine with root terminals :)
[08:56] <maco> theadmin: "sudo su" is like "sudo -s"
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> hyperstream:  learn the proper way to get a root terminal
[08:56] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, why?
[08:56] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, its working fine for me with the method i use?
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> Ive seen several cases where your sudo su - or other things can get things goofy
[08:56] <maco> hyperstream: "sudo su" = "sudo -s" and "sudo -i" = "sudo su -"
[08:56] <iceroot> hyperstream: as we told you, the environment is the reason
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> its also 'redundant' :)
[08:56] <maco> hyperstream: if youre going to use "sudo su" at least include the - at the end
[08:56] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, please show me examples. Hope its stuff i use sudo su - for ..
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> hyperstream:  i pasted a url.
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> go read it :)
[08:57] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, ive read that several times.
[08:57] <iceroot> hyperstream: please reread then
[08:57] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, still doesnt justify why im being told that i need to do it another way ?
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> Then you are lucky you havent stumbled upon some of the quirks.
[08:57] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, yeah for the paste year ....
[08:57] <hyperstream> past*
[08:57] <maco> Dr_Willis: what hyperstream is fine
[08:57] <theadmin> Okay... now this is annoying. How can I make Ubuntu stop displaying dumb messages like these? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2012912/Screenshot.png I want it to always run shell scripts in terminal
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> ive seen people spend some time trying to track down  some issues doing it other ways.
[08:58] <maco> Dr_Willis: hyperstream didnt say "sudo su" but rather "sudo su -" which IS the same as "sudo -i"
[08:58] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, what maco said :)
[08:58] <maco> Dr_Willis: if hyperstream just said "sudo su" then yes, the env would be an issue as that's only "sudo -s"
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> 'he command sudo -i is the equivalent to the 'su -' command'  or so i hear.
[08:58] <ardchoille> hyperstream: YOU don't need to do it another way, you can do whatever you want on your system. However, while in this channelit's best to recommend the proper way to do things
 zetheroo, sudo su -
[08:58] <dinosaurvskitten> Does anyone here use full disk encryption? I'm wondering how well it plays with laptops. For instance, what happens if you hibernate? Do you get prompted for a password or does it stay mounted?
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> sudo su - is like sudo sudo sudo sudo su  logic isent it..
[08:59]  * Dr_Willis ssh's to localhost for fun.
[08:59] <zetheroo> hyperstream: whichis for what?
[08:59] <hyperstream> ardchoille, perhaps, but not to me... to the person i may have miss informed. sudo su - is fine.
[08:59] <maco> Dr_Willis: well yes, its less efficient and requires spawning more shells, but in terms of teh env settings, its the same effect
[08:59] <cegorach> dinosaurvskitten: yes, you are asked for your encryption password again (at least with TC)
[08:59] <bullgard> I downloaded the DEB program package »jargon-text«. What is the preferred Ubuntu way to read and search /usr/share/vh/jargon.txt? '~$ most /usr/share/vh/jargon.txt' is uncomfortable.
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> I recall having my own custome root .profile and other things in the past (dont do it as much now a days) and had to be carefull how i 'su'd' to root
[09:00] <dinosaurvskitten> cegorach, thanks
[09:00] <theadmin> bullgard: You can try a text editor, or maybe less or more
[09:00] <dinosaurvskitten> cegorach, any particular reason why you went for TC instead of dmcrypt?
[09:01] <theadmin> TC? Is this for TrueCrypt?
[09:01] <pat|nG> is it possible to activate 3D with a built-in intel gfxcard?
[09:01] <hyperstream> bullgard, gedit file.txt  or nano file.txt or vim file.txt (from console, otherwise applications>accessories>gedit
[09:01] <dinosaurvskitten> theadmin, yes, at least that's what I assumed :)
[09:01] <cegorach> dinosaurvskitten: i have had a lot of experience with truecrypt, and it is very user friendly and easy to use
[09:01] <bullgard> theadmin: Following your advice is uncomfortable. As I pointed out, even most is inconvenient.
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> pat|nG:  it works for my Netbook. well compiz and low end 3d games work. :) its not got much Powar!
[09:02] <Miracle> Hi all. I am trying to set up a little-osm server. I am running the following command and getting an error: sudo mysql -u root<planet.sql
[09:02] <Miracle> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) how can I run this if I can't log in as root?
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> bullgard:  search and read for what exactly?
[09:02] <theadmin> dinosaurvskitten: Cool thing imho... and I've no idea what the heck dmcrypt is, but truecrypt totally rocks... it's quite uncomfortable to do NTFS formatting though
[09:02] <pat|nG> compiz?
[09:02] <cegorach> dinosaurvskitten: plus, it allows you to encrypt a disk/partition that is in use (which was handy for my win7 netbook)
[09:02] <dinosaurvskitten> cegorach, it is user friendly in some sense, but in others the UI is a bit glitchy from what I could tell when using it with an external drive (prompting for the volume password and root password before checking whether the mount point is already in use or whether the device exists at all)
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> !compiz | pat|nG
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> pat|nG:  it gives ubuntu the fancy eye candy
[09:02] <infid> has anyone in here got X11 ssh forwarding working on ubuntu 9.10? it's supposed to work out of the box but definitely isn't for me, nor with lots of tweaking
[09:02] <bullgard> Dr_Willis: I designeted the object of my question exactly. What do you want to know exactly?
[09:02] <pat|nG> does it work to kubuntu?
[09:03] <pat|nG> i'm in kubuntu kde
[09:03] <theadmin> pat|nG: Yes, but you'll have to mess around a bit
[09:03] <soreau> pat|nG: Most intel chips will already have 3D working by default
[09:03] <maco> Dr_Willis: pat|nG is trying to do it with kwin's 3D but its refusing to enable
[09:03] <pat|nG> #kubuntu no support channel
[09:03] <dinosaurvskitten> theadmin, dmcrypt seems to be pretty much like truecrypt but at the kernel level
[09:03] <bazhang> pat|nG, sure, but kde4 has its own compositing
[09:03] <bullgard> s/designeted/designated/
[09:03] <pat|nG> i got kde4 i check all options but nothing happnd
[09:03] <pat|nG> :(
[09:03] <cegorach> dinosaurvskitten: i never use the ui unless i am creating a new drive. i have a boot password, and then after it logs in, it automounts my 3-4 internal volumes
[09:03] <hyperstream> Miracle, mysql --help, i think off the top of my head you need to use -p
[09:03] <dinosaurvskitten> theadmin, I may be mistaken though - I only just started reading up about it
[09:03] <Slart> infid: you mean things like ssh -X <IP_ADDRESS> gedit  ?
[09:03] <infid> slart yeah
[09:04] <maco> hyperstream: yep that sounds riht
[09:04] <Miracle> hyperstream - thx    I'll look into it
[09:04] <dinosaurvskitten> cegorach, ah ok
[09:04] <infid> i can ssh -X <host> but if i type 'gedit' it will say authenication failed
[09:04] <cegorach> dinosaurvskitten: is dmcrypt cross platform?
[09:04] <Slart> infid: let me check
[09:04] <hyperstream> Miracle, nps, mate
[09:04] <dinosaurvskitten> theadmin, what do you mean by uncomfortable?
[09:04] <bullgard> hyperstream: nano is bad. It is even worse than most.
[09:04] <dinosaurvskitten> cegorach, probably not
[09:04] <hyperstream> bullgard, how can i tell from looking at your name, how advanced you are with linux ? :), yes i agree nano is bad.
[09:05] <blakkheim> use vi
[09:05] <theadmin> dinosaurvskitten: Well, on Linux I kinda have to first do "truecrypt --mount somefile --filesystem=none", then "mkfs -t ntfs /dev/mapper/truecrypt1"
[09:05] <dinosaurvskitten> cegorach, then again, the drives I'll be encrypting are linux filesystems, which aren't mountable on the other OS I use (for now anyways...)
[09:05] <maco> or if you want to look all advanced: type "view" as it is vi in read only mode :P
[09:05] <infid> slart it tells me 'X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. (gedit:2345) Gtk-Warning **: cannot open display: localhost:10.0
[09:05] <cegorach> dinosaurvskitten: that would be another reason why i wouldnt use it. i switch between windows and linux every now and then, and it is really nice to not have to worry about reencrypting the disks
[09:05] <Slart> infid: hang on.. let me get my vm's up and running =)
[09:05] <hyperstream> maco, :P
[09:05] <infid> k
[09:06] <dinosaurvskitten> cegorach, yeah I think I'll go for truecrypt after all
[09:06] <glassresistor> anyone know of an app to view harddrive power usage
[09:07] <bullgard> hyperstream: So what Ubuntu program is best suited to read ans search /usr/share/vh/jargon.txt?
[09:07] <dinosaurvskitten> glassresistor, you might be able to get some info from powertop, but I'm not completely sure
[09:07] <bullgard> s/ans/and/
[09:07] <cegorach> dinosaurvskitten: one thing you may try, is to mount the volumes at a lower mount point (i mount mine at X/Y/Z in windows)
[09:07] <hyperstream> bullgard, most text editors have a search function built in.
[09:07] <maco> bullgard: i dont really know what you're looking for exactly. i mean, i just use "less"...
[09:07] <hyperstream> bullgard, cat file.txt | grep what-im-looking-for
[09:08] <bullgard> hyper
[09:08] <maco> hyperstream: O_o
[09:08] <blakkheim> hyperstream: why would you do that
[09:08] <maco> hyperstream: grep what-im-lloking-for file.txt
[09:08] <blakkheim> ^
[09:08] <dinosaurvskitten> hyperstream, grep what-im-looking-for file.txt
[09:08] <hyperstream> cause im a noob ?
[09:08] <dinosaurvskitten> darn, beat me to it
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> redundancy again! :)
[09:08] <hyperstream> :)
[09:08]  * cachivachi gets disgusted
[09:08] <theadmin> hyperstream: Don't worry, I do that too :D
[09:08] <hyperstream> it works none the less
[09:08]  * cachivachi leaves
[09:08]  * Dr_Willis wayves bye to cachivachi
[09:08] <hyperstream> theadmin, one of the first things i learnt, just a habbit :)
[09:09] <hyperstream> cachivachi <-- weak as :)
[09:09] <theadmin> same here, hyperstream
[09:09] <bullgard> hyperstream, maco: "less" is no convinient tool for /usr/share/vh/jargon.txt
[09:09]  * maco wants to know what was disgusting
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> bullgard:  and why is it not convient? ive dont think youve clarified that point.
[09:09] <theadmin> maco: Probably the "cat file.txt | grep what-im-looking-for" part
[09:09] <bullgard> s/convinient/convenient/
[09:09] <hyperstream> maco, think it was my: "cat file.txt | grep "search stuff"
[09:09] <maco> bullgard: is there something odd about it? it's a text file. its what i use for every textfile
[09:09] <yahya> hi
[09:09] <hyperstream> bullgard, what is your actual issue ?
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> firefox whatever.txt   :)
[09:10] <infid> theadmin: you dont have to cat a file to grep it. just do 'grep foo file.txt'
[09:10] <yahya> i  need help
[09:10] <bullgard> maco: It is a specially formatted text file.
[09:10] <hyperstream> yahya, tell us about your issue ?
[09:10] <maco> infid: hyperstream said it and then 3 of us said what you just said
[09:10] <yahya> ممكن مساعدة
[09:10] <theadmin> infid: Yeah I know, just an old habbit from back when I didn't know much about bash
[09:10] <maco> infid: and then someone  /part'd in disgust
[09:10] <theadmin> yahya: Wha?
[09:10] <hyperstream> what language is that lol
[09:10] <maco> !sa | yahya
[09:10] <theadmin> hyperstream: hebrew, imho
[09:10] <infid> heh sorry
[09:10] <Xfact> utorrent now officially accepted that it can run nicely on WINE, http://www.utorrent.com/downloads (system requirements) !
[09:11] <infid> i like transmission, what's utorrent got on it?
[09:11] <zetheroo> has anyone here had success running Plasma in Ubuntu?
[09:11] <hyperstream> Xfact, whats wrong with qbittorrent ?
[09:11] <dinosaurvskitten> infid, the UI's less clunky to put it bluntly/vaguely
[09:11] <hyperstream> infid, i dont think transmission support DHT
[09:11] <maco> zetheroo: inside gnome, instead of in kde?
[09:12] <zetheroo> maco: yep
[09:12] <hyperstream> infid, but qbittorent does :)
[09:12] <stanman246> hey in here, just received my net xw4400 pc, can't wait to get ubu on it. But am in doubt... What's better 32 or 64 bits. Am kinda new on ubuntu
[09:12] <yahya> يا احبابي انا مش عارف اهمل ثلاثي الابعاد لسطح المكتب ممكن مساعدة
[09:12] <theadmin> Plasma in GNOME? o_O Now I am disgusted.
[09:12] <maco> zetheroo: plasmoidviewer or something....
[09:12] <theadmin> yahya: English please
[09:12] <hyperstream> yahya, /join #ubuntu-arabic
[09:12] <infid> i've never needed fancy bt features. dont even know what they are. i just know i get my files super fast over fios
[09:12] <maco> zetheroo: you need to run the plasmoids inside a viewer thingy
[09:12] <Xfact> hyperstream:  I use transmission, I am just saying now the original is supported, then why look for alternatives...!
[09:12] <ardchoille> !arabic
[09:12] <shamrezsadat> 063306cc062f 063406450639063106cc0632 06330627062f0627062a
[09:13] <bazhang> shamrezsadat, please stop that
[09:13] <theadmin> shamrezsadat: UTF-8 please!
[09:13] <maco> shamrezsadat: unicode, please
[09:13] <zetheroo> maco: have you done it?
[09:13] <maco> zetheroo: nope, i use kde
[09:13] <shamrezsadat> sssssd
[09:13] <dinosaurvskitten> is there a reason why I should *not* use noatime with all my mounted partitions?
[09:13] <zetheroo> maco: I heard of people doing it in Ubuntu ..
[09:13] <stanman246> it's a C2D cpu, so it's 64bits, but is ubuntu 64bit the same as 32bit?
[09:13] <neil_d> I have a raid1 setup... when I remove a HDD initramfs doesn't start the raid up :( it says the only HDD is a spare.. when I stop it and rescan it finds it and starts it properly... what do I do about this?
[09:13] <bullgard> Dr_Willis, hyperstream, maco : Synaptic: "This version is in the original text format and is best viewed with Volks-hypertext browser (vh), but can be viewed without it."
[09:14] <maco> zetheroo: i know its possible. i just havent tried it as i dont have gnome
[09:14] <theadmin> plasma on Gnome is likely a bad idea, though, zetheroo
[09:15] <theadmin> worse idea is plasma on XFCE though :D
[09:15] <zetheroo> theadmin: why?
[09:15] <shamrezsadat> buggy?hahahahahahhahahahahahahahah
[09:15] <hyperstream> bullgard, im not sure if im correct on this, but the answer is within what you paste yes?
[09:15] <Slart> infid: ok.. it works without any problems here..
[09:15] <ChrisMorgan> My Ubuntu 9.10 system just froze completely (no response to any input method, including e.g. Caps Lock not changing its light status) while I was running Rhythmbox (just after the habitual restart
[09:15] <shamrezsadat> buggy
[09:15] <theadmin> zetheroo: Well, GNOME is not intended to use Plasma... it will just look weird, trust me %)
[09:15] <Slart> infid: tried it  9.04 desktop -> 9.10 desktop.. clean install.. just installed openssh server and it works
[09:15] <bazhang> shamrezsadat, did you have a support question?
[09:15] <infid> slart weird. i dont know what i'm doing wrong. i even tried disabling my firewall. the only thing i can gather is that i'm using public keys and have disabled password logins, which might be conflicting with it
[09:15] <zetheroo> theadmin: have you done it?
[09:16] <theadmin> ChrisMorgan: Did you try reisub?
[09:16] <infid> slart i'm doing a 9.10 dt to a 9.10 dt
[09:16] <ChrisMorgan> due to sleep causing it to fail reading the CD), and so I did a hard restart.  Now I've got gdu-notification-daemon and Palimpsest Disk Utility telling me of SMART problems...
[09:16] <mimis> i try to open .deb files but i can't, do tou know what may be the problem?
[09:16] <zetheroo> shamrezsadat: yeah  ... wondering the same ... did you have a Q?
[09:16] <shamrezsadat> noooooooooooooooooooo
[09:16] <ChrisMorgan> (Sorry, I didn't mean to press Enter first time)
[09:16] <zetheroo> shamrezsadat: so your here to help out/
[09:16] <zetheroo> ?
[09:16] <theadmin> mimis: Do you have the admin rights? Is gdebi working normally?
[09:16] <shamrezsadat> no he is not tell me
[09:16] <bullgard> hyperstream: It is not. --  Thank you.
[09:16] <stanman246> anyone?
[09:16] <bazhang> shamrezsadat, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[09:16] <Slart> infid: what was the error message you got?
[09:17] <hyperstream> bullgard, volks-hypertext browser?
[09:17] <mimis> theadmin: how can i check it?
[09:17] <infid> slart it tells me 'X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. (gedit:2345) Gtk-Warning **: cannot open display: localhost:10.0
[09:17] <shamrezsadat> bazhang i fuck ur sister mthere fucker
[09:17] <stanman246> does 64bit have all the same software as ubu 32 bits?
[09:17] <hyperstream> ot oh
[09:17] <hyperstream> we have a kick comming :LP
[09:17] <theadmin> mimis: Well, try running the console based installer and see if you succeed. "sudo dpkg -i debpackage.deb"
[09:17] <Slart> stanman246: yes
[09:17] <dnivra> hyperstream, bazhang beat you to it:)
[09:17] <hyperstream> i stand corrected :)
[09:18] <stanman246> thanks Slart
[09:18] <laeg> a facebook flash app i open with firefox connects to me on 9339, i need to check whether the port is tcp or udp and where exactly it's connecting from. how can i?]
[09:18] <hyperstream> dnivra, i dont have oper priv's :)
[09:18] <dnivra> hyperstream, i meant he did it before you could even say it:)
[09:18] <hyperstream> dnivra, oo my bad lol, yes very quick
[09:18] <ChrisMorgan> It's an incidental thing I've observed as absolutely consistent behaviour: play a CD with Rhythmbox, put the machine in standby, when it wakes up, Rhythmbox won't be able to play the CD until it's restarted, claiming a read buffer failure of some sort (can't remember precisely what it was).  Replacing the CD doesn't help.
[09:18] <dnivra> hyperstream, no problem:). i know that was damn fast
[09:18] <yahya__><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:18] <Slart> stanman246: I can honestly say that I wouldn't be able to tell if it was 32bit or 64bit if you just put me in front of a computer with ubuntu.. well.. unless I run uname or something like that, of course
[09:19] <theadmin> yahya__: Don't spam!
[09:19] <dnivra> another one soon coming I guess.
[09:19] <theadmin> ...i guess I shouldn't show up in this channel around that time... never did before, never saw any spam... sigh %)
[09:19] <stanman246> Slart: I want to use it for video editing, so i hope that will increase the box' speed
[09:20] <Slart> stanman246: don't get your hopes up.. it's not that much faster
[09:20] <stanman246> hmmm
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> stanman246:   You may see some gains. but it depends on what you do.  of course if its a 2% gain..  over the course of a 3 days of video reencoding,,.,,
[09:20] <ChrisMorgan> So now Ubuntu is telling me that the S.M.A.R.T. chip in my disk is reporting "Disk has many bad sectors" (Reallocated Sector Count is 65541 sectors... suspiciously close to 65536 which I thusly presume is a magic number with hard disks).  Would this be due to the system's freeze and hard restart, or the other way round, or something else altogether, or no way of telling really?
[09:20] <theadmin> Why do I hear a loud pop-like sound when I hibernate?
[09:21] <theadmin> ChrisMorgan: NEVER HARD RESTART!!! Use REISUB!
[09:21] <stanman246> even if i pop in 8gb's?
[09:21] <ChrisMorgan> theadmin: I had no choice, it was all completely locked up.
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> stanman246:  more is always better. :)
[09:21] <Slart> ChrisMorgan: I would say it's your hard drive that is crashing.. backup backup backup
[09:21] <foul_owl> anyone here use directfb?
[09:21] <bupsss> hello
[09:21] <theadmin> ChrisMorgan: Did you even try REISUB?... Altough... I'd run fsck from a Live session and see if it fixes those errors
[09:21] <Slart> stanman246: memory size is the only really noticable difference between 32bit and 64bit..
[09:22] <ChrisMorgan> First all except the mouse froze, then the screen went black (except for the mouse cursor for some reason) and all input stopped working.
[09:22] <Slart> stanman246: if you've got more than 3.5GB go with 64bit
[09:22] <ChrisMorgan> Caps Lock was stuck on (don't recall having it on... wondered why it was on)
[09:22] <hyperstream> ChrisMorgan, CTRL + ALT + F1 didnt do anything either?
[09:22] <ChrisMorgan> So I really had no choice (and anyway, I've never heard of reisub :D)
[09:22] <mimis> theadmin: i still can't install it. Before this problem i installed build-essential, i don't know if it matters
[09:22] <foul_owl> is it possible to run opengl apps without x11
[09:23] <dinosaurvskitten> cegorach, looks like there's some support for dmcrypt on windows through freeotfe
[09:23] <stanman246> ah... I'll just give it a try then... Now the only thing I need to know is: Got me a dual xp install on the box (C: and E:)... And a large free partition for Ubu, will grub pick up both xp installs? Need that for my wife and kids...
[09:23] <ChrisMorgan> hyperstream: I tried Ctrl+Alt+(Backspace|Delete), but not Ctrl+Alt+F1 'cos I couldn't remember it
[09:23] <hyperstream> stanman246, yes it should
[09:23] <fourshore> when i try to join a counterstrike server my screen goes blank and i get the message "Out Of Range"
[09:23] <hyperstream> ChrisMorgan, ok, kept it in mind for next time, should give you a console to work with
[09:23] <ChrisMorgan> Anyway, input from the keyboard and mouse didn't seem to be getting processed at all, at the hardware elvel, I think
[09:23] <fourshore> how do i fix this?
[09:23] <hyperstream> fourshore, installed with what? wine?
[09:24] <hyperstream> fourshore, #winehq
[09:24] <infid> slart do you have the file ~/.Xauthority or did it work for you without it?
[09:24] <Slart> infid: I think it said something about creating that when I connected
[09:24] <fourshore> yes wine
[09:25] <stanman246> ok, I'm going for it! can't wait... thanks for the advice guys!
[09:25] <fourshore> but they don't know the answer
[09:25]  * iflema thinks... the real me thinks winblows apps with wine as a system requirement..... what!/why!/NO! (floodgates) or maybe the beginning of the end, amen to that.
[09:25] <infid> slart what all did you do, just ran the command 'ssh -X host command'? or did you run any 'xauth' stuff?
[09:26] <hyperstream> fourshore, this is a ubuntu channel, not a wine channel, hence why there is #winehq
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> The wine app database is also good..
[09:26] <Slart> infid: I installed openssh-server and some regular updates.. then I opened a terminal and ran  "ssh -X <IP_ADDRESS> gedit"  that opened a gedit window remotely.. I closed that and tried just "ssh -X <IP_ADDRESS>" and then ran gedit from that prompt which also worked.. nothing else
[09:26] <abu123> Hi
[09:26] <Xfact> anybody can refer me some useful lite-weight web browsers?
[09:27] <abu123> how to copy to /usr/share/sounds
[09:27] <laeg> Xfact: firefox, firefox portable
[09:27] <hyperstream> Xfact, chrome is pretty lightweight :)
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> Xfact:  google chome, opera, midori
[09:27] <cegorach> dinosaurvskitten: interesting... doubt i'll switch from tc, since it has served me so well
[09:27] <Slart> infid: no configuration.. no xauth stuff
[09:27] <hyperstream> Xfact, or lynx (terminal)
[09:27] <Guard1an> Xfact, gnome/kde?
[09:27] <fourshore> hyperstream, why are you whining then
[09:27] <Xfact> Midori type...Fireox and chrome and opera not lite weight
[09:27] <cegorach> hyperstream: how does chrome run in linux?
[09:27] <hyperstream> cegorach, sure does mate
[09:27] <Xfact> Guard1an:  gnome
[09:27] <laeg> Xfact: what seems to be the problem?
[09:27] <hyperstream> cegorach, get it from google :)
[09:28] <abu123> I want you install win7 transformation pack for ubuntu
[09:28] <hyperstream> cegorach, i definatly use it, have for a while now
[09:28] <hyperstream> fourshore, 'whining' about what?
[09:28] <abu123> I want to install win7 transformation pack for ubuntu
[09:28] <cegorach> hyperstream: not does it run, _how_ does it run, like how well?
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> abu123:  so... whats stopping you...
[09:28] <hyperstream> cegorach, flawless for me and ive put it through everything i can think of
[09:28] <Xfact> laeg: firefox aqnd chrome taking too much ram while loading (flash based etc.) heavy weight pages.....
[09:28] <Xfact> *an d
[09:28] <hyperstream> cegorach, flash etc, all fine,(sorry miss read your question)
[09:28] <Guard1an> Xfact, midori
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> Xfact:  if you want low ram ussage.. disable flash.. perhaps..
[09:29] <abu123> I want to make ubuntu as win7 look
[09:29] <cegorach> hyperstream: nice. i will def have to get that instead of recustomizing ff here on my server
[09:29] <Xfact> How is epiphany?
[09:29] <hyperstream> cegorach, yeah im in love with chrome.
[09:29] <Guest90567> hi suche verzweifelt diesen patch für macbook 4,1 soundkarte
[09:30] <Guest90567> patch_realtek.c.mb31.gz
[09:30] <Guest90567> kann mir wer helfen?
[09:30] <Slart> infid: if I check the host computer now, I do have a .Xauthority file.. and when I try to rerun the ssh command it doesn't say anything about it any more
[09:30] <jasmin76> danke
[09:30] <Slart> infid: I can try deleting it and trying again
[09:30] <Guard1an> Xfact, mmm not sure if it's stabalised, they moved to webkit from gecko
[09:30] <Xfact> Dr_Willis: turning off flash wasn't a decent idea :(
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> Xfact:  i think disabling flash is a VERY decent idea. :)
[09:31]  * Dr_Willis waits for teh day when flash goes the way of  Realplayer
[09:31] <Xfact> anybody heard about a audio player 'aTunes', it's having lots of problem!
[09:32] <jasmin76> HI guys searching for my macbook 4,1 this sound patch    patch_realtek.c.mb31.gz
[09:32] <jasmin76> can somebody help me?
[09:32] <cegorach> dr_wilis - did you see that youtube can now be used without flash?
[09:32] <Guard1an> Youtube switched to html5
[09:32] <neil_d> I have a raid1.. if I disconnect a HDD initramfs wont start the raid device up :(   why?  Have I configured it wrong or something?
[09:32] <Xfact> Dr_Willis: in peasant days, 80% good looking and useful sites are flash based!O:-)
[09:32] <BlouBlou> jasmin76: yes, and what do you want do with it?
[09:32] <hyperstream> !germen
[09:33] <hyperstream> wow cant even spell that one aye ><
[09:33] <neil_d> Xfact: and none need to be.
[09:33] <cegorach> dr_willis - did you see that youtube can now be used without flash?
[09:33] <theadmin> !de | hyperstream
[09:33] <pat|nG> does compizfusion supports KDE?
[09:33] <jasmin76> to activate also the third speaker ...
[09:33] <ziroday> pat|nG: yes, for more details ask in #kubuntu
[09:33] <cegorach> anyone know how to set up a teamspeak server?
[09:34] <infid> Slart:  it's ok thanks. i just have a messed up system for some reason. i'll figure it out eventually. thanks for all the help.
[09:34] <pat|nG> ziroday: #kubuntu is a ghost channel
[09:34] <Slart> infid: you're welcome
[09:34] <ziroday> pat|nG: it most certainly is not :)
[09:34] <laeg> under ubuntu 9.01 a facebook flash app i open with firefox connects to me on 9339, i need to check whether the port is tcp or udp and where exactly it's connecting from. how can i?
[09:35] <neil_d> laeg: netstat might do that..
[09:35] <theadmin> laeg: 9.01?! What kinda thing is that? o_O
[09:35] <laeg> theadmin: funny
[09:35] <laeg> neil_d: ty, i'll have a look
[09:35] <iflema> laeg netstat -tuna
[09:36] <whynot> buongiorno a tutti
[09:37] <laeg> iflema: ty, if i'm on a website but it has already loaded and there are no ads etc, will it still show up?
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> !info gnomeartng
[09:37] <laeg> i imagine the facebook app will keep 'loading' so will be establish, my last question is offtopic
[09:38] <iflema> laeg for a little while add  c netstat -tunac
[09:38] <pat|nG> laeg: check ur apps
[09:39] <pat|nG> install the new flash player
[09:39] <chilipepper> I have fliles in flac and I want to convert them into mp3. What media converter do you suggest?
[09:40] <iflema> laeg and maybe pipe through grep
[09:41] <laeg> iflema: thanks, i got the port and ip
[09:41] <laeg> pat|nG: what will checking my apps and installing the latest flash do?
[09:41] <rossini> ciao
[09:42] <thejoni> ubottu
[09:42] <thejoni> what is ubottu
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> !bot
[09:43] <owner> how to register nick name?
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> !register | owner
[09:45] <Topy44> i am still trying to find out how the look of the buttons in the gnome panel window selector applet gets defined
[09:45] <thejoni> what is ubuntu
[09:45] <Topy44> somewhere in the gtk theme i guess...
[09:45] <Topy44> but i cant find it
[09:45] <thejoni> !ubuntu
[09:45] <suigeneris> !ubuntu | th0ger
[09:45] <bazhang> thejoni, an OS.  chat in #ubuntu-offtopic if you dont have any support questions
[09:45] <suigeneris> !ubuntu | thejoni
[09:47]  * citbun is away (disconnecting...)
[09:47] <canotto> exit
[09:48] <bacilon> adios
[09:48] <bacilon> me piro
[09:48] <ranjan> hello every body i am having an problem with samba sare i am not able to brouse the network place from my ubuntu 9.10  any help will be great
[09:49] <bacilon> engaleee
[09:49] <MauritianGuy> guys how do i check drivers for my whole system
[09:49] <bacilon> olaaaaaaa
[09:49] <bacilon> k aceis
[09:49] <bazhang> !es | bacilon
[09:49] <MauritianGuy> i just updated nvidia driver i am not sure if it got installed or not
[09:50] <hyperstream> MauritianGuy, use the display manager
[09:50] <hyperstream> MauritianGuy, System>Pref>Display (choose to use manufactor software)
[09:50] <iflema> MauritianGuy lsmod | grep nvidia
[09:51] <MauritianGuy> thanks i am on it
[09:51] <canotto> ciao
[09:51] <iflema> canotto ciao
[09:51] <bazhang> !it | canotto
[09:51] <Diverdude> I need to understand this correct. If I have bought a new device, e.g. a USB wireless network adapter and i need to install the driver for it, i need to recompile the kernel?
[09:52] <soreau> Diverdude: You dont need to recompile the kernel
[09:52] <thejoni> !register thejoni
[09:52] <canotto> scusa sono nuovo e sto cercando di capire come muovermi
[09:52] <Diverdude> soreau, when do you then need to recompile the kernel?
[09:52] <bazhang> canotto, english here ; #ubuntu-it for Italian
[09:52] <thejoni> !register
[09:53] <Xfact> Osdisk.com taking $5 for Ubuntu CDs http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/linux/ubuntu?ad=google&gclid=CM_ii5ueup8CFY0vpAodImPFbA why?111
[09:53] <Xfact> !
[09:53] <bazhang> thejoni, help in #freenode for registration
[09:53] <Slart> Xfact: to cover the cost of the physical disc?
[09:53] <soreau> Diverdude: That is a subjective question. Short answer is you never need to compile your own kernel
[09:53] <canotto> #ubuntu-it
[09:53] <bazhang> Xfact, that is offtopic here
[09:53] <Slart> Xfact: it's not illegal to charge money for opensource software
[09:53] <bazhang> canotto, /join #ubuntu-it
[09:53] <theadmin> XFact: You can resell Ubuntu, it's normal
[09:54] <theadmin> XFact: Altough it's also dumb
[09:54] <soreau> Diverdude: Which device do you have as reported by lsusb?
[09:54] <Topy44> seems like a fair price for burning and shipping a disc, especially if its labeled
[09:54] <bazhang> lets take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:54] <Xfact> yea, why people will buy a free thing!
[09:54] <theadmin> Yep, that would go there...
[09:54] <Topy44> because some people dont have a highspeed internet connection
[09:54] <bazhang> Xfact, #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:54] <Topy44> or access to one
[09:55] <Diverdude> soreau, moment...I will be right back.
[09:55] <iflema> support
[09:55] <Topy44> and it might just be easier to order it on dvd then getting it downloaded somewhere else, where they still need to buy media to put it on
[09:56] <Slart> Topy44: you had better start listening to ops.. take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:56] <Topy44> sorry
[09:56] <Topy44> must have missed that
[09:57] <ecto> if I try to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 using the Update Manager, do you think it will install GRUB2?  I've got LILO installed because for whatever reason this Dell doesn't like GRUB (1)
[09:57] <soreau> ecto: An upgrade wont install grub2
[09:57] <Slart> ecto: I don't know for sure but from what I've heard it keeps your current grub version
[09:57] <soreau> only clean install of karmic or later
[09:58] <ecto> OK
[09:58] <bazhang> you can choose grub2 in an upgrade
[09:58] <greek-33> DNS Question: I have 2 DNS servers. When my primary is down, my ubuntu client is too slow
[09:58] <greek-33> any ideas?
[09:59] <MoL0ToV> hi to all
[09:59] <soreau> greek-33: Use GEs dns <IP_ADDRESS> or googles <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:59] <fourshore> where is the default download directory in ubuntu?
[09:59] <papul> better use opendns
[10:00] <papul> much much better than the others
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> I perfer googles DNS servers to opendns
[10:00] <rww> How do I change the CPU frequency governor from the command-line?
[10:00] <oCean__> rww: cpufreq-selector
[10:01] <titan_ark> hey. am having some trouble getting my audio to work
[10:01] <rww> oCean_: thanks
[10:01] <MoL0ToV> i just installed ubuntu un a ext4 usb stick: exist a way to speed up the system when ther are a disk write operation? firefox is so slow... i think that writes something to usb stick...
[10:01] <titan_ark> cant seem to get the alsa and pulse audio plugins to install
[10:02] <Slart> fourshore: I think that depends on what application you use to download stuff with
[10:02] <fourshore> the terminal?
[10:02] <fourshore> or firefox?
[10:02] <Slart> fourshore: chromium has one.. firefox has another.. it might be in ~/Downloads .. I have mine set to ~/Desktop
[10:02] <Slart> fourshore: bash doesn't download files afaik
[10:03] <Slart> fourshore: firefox has a setting for it.. check the preferences
[10:03] <greek-33> thanks you
[10:03] <greek-33> bye
[10:03] <fourshore> where does firefox save files?
[10:03] <MoL0ToV> i just installed ubuntu un a ext4 usb stick: exist a way to speed up the system when ther are a disk write operation? firefox is so slow... i think that writes something to usb stick..
[10:04] <Slart> fourshore: start firefox, click the Edit menu, click preferences..  choose the Main tab.. see the lower part of that window? it's right there
[10:04] <incidence> Hm, do I have some kinda rootkit or such? I'm getting lots of "xmvs: no such nick/channel, vtf: no such nick/channel, ydhgrfsgknvi: no such nick/channel" to my status window?
[10:05] <ZykoticK9> MoL0ToV, ext2 is actually the best for USB/SSD - lack of journaling cuts down on writes to disk, thus faster & preserves the hardware longer
[10:05] <Topy44> incidence: no, its a problem on freenode currently, its spambots
[10:05] <incidence> Topy44: Ah, thats what the javascript spam thing was about
[10:05] <Topy44> exactly
[10:06] <MoL0ToV> ZykoticK9, exist a way to entirely cache the root fs, systemlog dir, tmp dir so if i write something there is more fast?
[10:06] <fourshore> it says user/Downloads
[10:06]  * incidence stops downloading GRsecurity
[10:06] <ZykoticK9> MoL0ToV, no idea man - best of luck
[10:06] <fourshore> but where is that directory... it doesn't seem to be within the File System drive?
[10:06] <MoL0ToV> i can mount /tmp and /var/log as tmpfs? this can improve performance?
[10:07] <ZykoticK9> fourshore, try "cd ~/Dwonloads" in a terminal
[10:07] <Slart> fourshore: it's probably ~/Downloads .. as in /home/<yourusername>/Downloads
[10:07] <MoL0ToV> i can mount a ext4 fs but use as ext2?
[10:07] <ZykoticK9> MoL0ToV, i doubt it, but maybe
[10:08] <fourshore> yeah i know, but shouldn't it reside within the drive which i installed ubuntu? ie. "Filesystem"
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> MoL0ToV:  I dont think thats fully possible.  thers some backwardsd compat features with ext4->3->2 but  thats proberly pushing it
[10:08] <MoL0ToV> in facts only firefox is so slow... how i can know what and where firefox writes ti disk?
[10:08] <MoL0ToV> to
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> fourshore:  check your firefox browser settings.  It saves them to Downloads here in my Homedir
[10:09] <Karollo> Hello!
[10:10] <Slart> fourshore: why would you download things into your system drive? downloads go to a folder in your home hierarchy..
[10:10] <Karollo> Is there sth like MS paint for Linux? I don't mind gimp
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> !info mtpaint
[10:10] <paranoid_ndroid> Karollo, tuxpaint
[10:10] <stanman246> during the install, should i choose for guided or manual option? I want to triple boot after the install
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> Karollo:  tehres proberly other painting programs out.. depends on your needs
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> Gimp is really not made for 'painting' :)
[10:11] <Karollo> thanks :)
[10:11] <fourshore> Slart, because I come from a Windows background
[10:11] <blue_pearl> stanman246: manual
[10:11] <fourshore> so this home heirarchy, is that like on a separate partition to the system drive?
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> fourshore:  it can be.. or not
[10:11] <Dr_Willis>  /home/usernames/stuffgoeshere
[10:12] <stanman246> blue_pearl: will grub pick up both the other os'?
[10:12] <jasmin25> searching for my macbook 4,1 a soundfix for ubuntu interpid
[10:12] <blue_pearl> stanman246: what r the three OS which U want 2 install?
[10:12] <Slart> fourshore: do you save stuff in c:\windows  when you're running windows?   your home folder can be on a different partition if you've set it up that way it can also be on the root drive.. in /home/<yourusername>
[10:13] <ubuntuser> does anyone have experience with virtualbox on a linux distro, windows and visual studio_ Does it seem to work well?
[10:13] <stanman246> got 2 xp's (on sda1 and sda5) the rest is free space
[10:13] <ubuntuser> &j #linux
[10:13] <stanman246> ubuntuser: I'm running it fine
[10:13] <blue_pearl> stanman246:: grub will pick it up automatically
[10:13] <stanman246> ok, thanks
[10:13] <ubuntuser> stanman246, okay...what kind of Visual Studio projects do you make_
[10:13] <Slart> fourshore: all user settings go to that same place... your home folder.. system wide settings is in /etc usually.. but if it's a per-user setting it usually ends up in that users home folder
[10:13] <dnm_> can some help me sort out some space problems on my ubuntu
[10:14] <blue_pearl> ubuntuser: what do u want 2 know about virtual box????
[10:14] <blue_pearl> stanman246: u r welcome.
[10:14] <stanman246> ubuntuser: actually none, did some trying out and did an install just to see if it worked
[10:14] <fourshore> Slart, but is that home folder on the same drive as the system files?
[10:14] <oCean_> dnm_: just ask. Use pastebin for pastes
[10:14] <ubuntuser> blue_pearl, well if i can create asp.net applications in visual studio on virtual box without any problems
[10:14] <soreau> ! ask | dnm_
[10:15] <stanman246> ubuntuser: i use virtualbox OSE for all M$ needed apps
[10:15] <ubuntuser> stanman246, do you have it running now?
[10:15] <Slart> fourshore: it can be.. or it can be on a different partition
[10:15] <ubuntuser> stanman246, Basically I am interrested in if I am able to create asp.net apps on virtual box
[10:15] <dnm_> running a dual boot .. ubuntu is showing low space .. help needed
[10:15] <stanman246> it's on my laptop, am doing an ubu install right now
[10:15] <stanman246> ubuntuser: can't see why not
[10:16] <blue_pearl> ubuntuser: well generally every software for windows runs fine on virtaul box....VS will also run perfect...i think
[10:16] <ubuntuser> stanman246, i was just thinking that there might be a problem with the webserver and all
[10:16] <stanman246> why
[10:16] <Slart> fourshore: but you'll find it at /home/    that still doesn't mean it has to be on the same partition as /   (root)
[10:17] <Karollo> I'm writing (Shutdown 0) in my terminal and PC i shutting down but it's only ubuntu logo and i thinks then my pc is freezd, why? It doesn't close
[10:17] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: u there
[10:17] <stanman246> i recall doing a VE with xampp, which worked just fine
[10:17] <oCean_> dnm_: some details would be nice. Are you running ubuntu currently? Then (in terminal) do "df -k" and "sudo fdisk -l" and paste output on paste.ubuntu.com
[10:17] <stanman246> could even reach it from the outsite ;_
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  yes.. what have you actually done to figure out how much space you are using and where its at?
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  dont expect us to play 20 questions all day long to get to the actual problem.
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> actual question.. that is.. :)
[10:18] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: sorry i m new to this n m not sure how to get things done
[10:18] <dnm_> oCean_: i m using ubuntu now .. will do the terminal thing
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  #1 starters install the 'pastebinit' command via 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit'
[10:19] <ubuntuser> stanman246, its because I have dual boot system now...and was thinking about devoting everything to ubuntu instead and running virtualbox for visual studio...but its a big step to take because i need to be able to develop .net web apps...so that has to workperfectly
[10:19] <jasmin25> help
[10:19] <oCean_> dnm_: ok. After you've pasted the output of the commands at paste.ubuntu.com, you can give the resulting URL in this channel, so we can have a look
[10:19] <blue_pearl> ubuntuser:why dont u give a try....i dont thinku will face any prob...
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  then use the command to give us some info tell us eht URLs for the pastebin  pastes for the following command 'sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit' and 'df -h | pastebinit'
[10:20] <laeg> how do i resolve an ipaddress to domain name?
[10:20] <LuciusMare> ohai
[10:20] <jasmin25> help
[10:20] <raven> (how) is possible to open a partition which has been saved by PARTIMAGE?
[10:21] <LuciusMare> what is the name of the widget that displays a small menu where i can browse my home folder? (out of the box, it is right next to the K menu) - and can i get it on debian?
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> raven:  you can mount 'filesystem' images with the loop option of mount  theres an example for iso files.
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> !iso
[10:21] <bazhang> LuciusMare, on debian?
[10:21] <Guest60196> weee
[10:21] <LuciusMare> bazhang: yes
[10:21] <bazhang> LuciusMare, ask in #debian
[10:21] <LuciusMare> er
[10:21] <raven> Dr_Willis, partimage gives no iso files
[10:22] <blue_pearl> LuciusMare: Folder View Screenlet????
[10:22] <LuciusMare> but how should they know what do i mean?
[10:22] <LuciusMare> i ask here because i found it on kubuntu only
[10:22] <raven> Dr_Willis, and it's not a single file but about 20 á 4 gb
[10:22] <LuciusMare> blue_pearl: i meant the KDE thingy
[10:23] <dude> hello everyone
[10:23] <maxunack> Q: i'm installing ubuntu and am wondering which mount points to use (and what size for each)? i've done swap, but what about /, /home and whatever else? i have 450gb to spare
[10:23] <nikhil_> how does one troublehoot a kernel panic under ubuntu?
[10:23] <joschi__> hi
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> raven:  iso is just an example..   you could check the partimage docs/guides to see how they reccomend doing it
[10:23] <blue_pearl> LuciusMare:if u install Screenlet and start the "FolderView" screenlet u can get to view folder,files from a widget..it available on all Linux
[10:23] <LuciusMare> maxunack: i usually leave about 50 gigs or so for /, and rest for /home
[10:23] <LuciusMare> blue_pearl: i dont mean screenlets, i mean the KDE widget
[10:23] <dnm_> oCean_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/361168/
[10:24] <maxunack> LuciusMare: thanks.. any other partitions i should think about? maybe /var ?
[10:24] <blue_pearl> LuciusMare: ok i c....well i dont use KDE..but i understand what u r asking about.
[10:24] <maxunack> maybe some hefty log files might come along... but maybe not important since its for personal use
[10:24] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/361168/
[10:25] <LuciusMare> maxunack: well, i think that for desktop, separate home is just about enough
[10:25] <blue_pearl> maxunack:if u do swap and / its enough to install Ubuntu
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> raven:  a quick google - shoes many people wanting to do it.. and not being possible
[10:25] <maxunack> cool cool, thanks, guys
[10:25] <blue_pearl> maxunack: u r welcome.
[10:25] <raven> Dr_Willis, yes that's the problem...
[10:25] <argued> I am in need of buying a new hard drive, my question is if I install the new HD and put my old HD in an external case, will I be able to mount the external hd with all files on it and copy it over to my new one witch I will install Karmic on?
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  Hmm.. thers not any linux partitons shown  - How exactly DID you install ubuntu?
[10:26] <LuciusMare> maxunack: though, if you are going to install a server, and you have a specific reason to use separate /var (for keeping logs?) or /usr (for installing applications), go ahead. I recommend separate home, eventual migrating to another distro is MUCH easier
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> argued:  i do that all the time.
[10:26] <hyperstream> argued, yes, provided the hard disk is in working order.
[10:26] <oCean_> dnm_: there's no linux install on that disk. I also asked to paste the output of "df -k", that'll show us the linux disk partitioning
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> argued:  actually with grub2 - it can even detect/boot the external one. :)
[10:26] <dude> i want to install raid disk. what can i do
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> !raid | dude
[10:27] <CAiRO> hi
[10:27] <argued> thank you guys, I wanted to ask before just so grub wont cause any trubles
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> dude:  read up on the topic  a good deal befor starting. :)
[10:27] <fourshore> i just installed the latest version of Wine but need to downgrade to 1.1.34, how do i do this?
[10:27] <dude> raid 5
[10:27] <LuciusMare> fourshore: apt-get install wine=1.1.34
[10:27] <CAiRO> i'm having problems accessing an usb stick from the desktop, when i plug in the stick, it appears in the "place" menu, but selecting the stick from there does nothing
[10:27] <CAiRO> no mount, no window opening, nothing
[10:27] <dude> thank you
[10:28] <LuciusMare> fourshore: useful tip, just add = and version, and poof! instant specific version
[10:28] <CAiRO> and the same thing works on my ubuntu notebook without problems
[10:28] <CAiRO> what could be the cause?
[10:28] <fourshore> LuciusMare, thanks. Do I need to apt-get remove wine first?
[10:28] <jasmin25> searching for my macbook 4,1 a soundfix for ubuntu interpid
[10:28] <CAiRO> my user is part of the group "disk"
[10:28] <LuciusMare> well
[10:28] <stanman246> got 3 partitions: 40gb for / 200mb for /boot and 100gb for /home.... am i doing the right thing or should i assign a different partition for /tmp?
[10:28] <argued> does anyone here have anything to say about Western  Digital Caviar Black Dualcore 640GB
[10:28] <LuciusMare> fourshore: not sure, if it does not work, remove it first
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> argued:  its a 640gb hard drive....
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> :)
[10:28] <fourshore> LuciusMare, do I need to remove the current (latest) version first
[10:28] <stanman246> WD..
[10:28] <fourshore> ok
[10:28] <stanman246> :)
[10:29] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: well i installed wubu first then i downloaded it via net and installed it
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  wubi is a special way to install Ubuntu 'inside' windows  - I dont use wubi. so cant help.
[10:29] <Para> h
[10:29] <argued> DR Willis: that much I get.. I ment - I wont use any more hitachi drives cause they wont work all that good for me, how about WD for you guys
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  ive no idea if its even possible to resize a wubi install
[10:29] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: oh k
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> argued:  HD's are the weakest part of any system I find. - I tend to  balance price vs size  and warrenty.
[10:30] <stanman246> should i make an assigned /tmp partition?
[10:30] <dnm_> oCean_: have any suggestions
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  i suggest doing a 'normal' ubuntu install to real partitions. and forgetting wuibi even exists
[10:30] <oCean_> !wubi | dnm_ here's some more inof on installing/running wubi (i don't have that either)
[10:31] <konrads_> Hi, I have an ancient 7.04 ubuntu
[10:31] <argued> the price is right atm and warrenty is 5 years so all that is good as far as I need to know
[10:31] <LuciusMare> konrads_: congratulations
[10:31] <konrads_> i want to upgrade to latst, but 7.04->9.10 is not supported
[10:31] <konrads_> nor I can find a 7.10 mirror
[10:31] <konrads_> what should I do?
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> argued:  who has 5 yr warrenty? I turned 2 segates the other day and got them replaced. :) they wer both 4 yrs old..
[10:31] <om26er> can I decrease the width of window list applet?
[10:31] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: k i m not getting it .. so basically you are tellin me that i havent installed it the right way
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> konrads_:  the old repos get moved to some  archive server.
[10:31] <argued> my local dealer who sells WD
[10:32] <chilipepper> Wow Dr_Willis , that was cool
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  you installed it in the 'wubi' way - a 'install under windows' way. thats not  what Most linux users use
[10:32] <iflema> CAiRO have you been messing with user access rights? whats the kernel version on troubled os?.... did you compile it yourself? whats the file system on the flash disk?
[10:32] <oCean_> konrads_: here is some info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:32] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: ok .. so how do i do it the other way
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  boot the cd.. follow the installer directions
[10:33] <raven> is possible to restore a partimage backup into a folder instead of a partition?
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  i would backup any data ya got on the wubi install and remove it.. then do a nomral install
[10:33] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: ok so for that i have to get a cd
[10:33] <CAiRO> iflema: no, i haven't except for adding my user to groups like audio, i'm using 8.04 with a 2.6.24-26 kernel
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  you can make a bootable flash drive  No cd needed
[10:33] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: my data is on another drive
[10:33] <argued> is there anything else I need to think of before doing this? my harddrive is practically full atm, losing transfer speed for every backup and I believe I need to change it before I lose anything important
[10:33] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: how do i do that .. can you give me a link
[10:34] <CAiRO> iflema: the stick has a fat filesystem and yes, i've rebuild the ubuntu kernel image but only the PAE option changed
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:   use the usb-creator tool thats in the menus
[10:34] <CAiRO> iflema: everything else is the same
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  or the 'unetbootin' tool
[10:34] <CAiRO> iflema: i can mount the sticks as root using mount on the command line
[10:34] <CAiRO> but i want it to happen automatically as on my notebook
[10:34] <iflema> CAiRO ok\
[10:35] <CAiRO> iflema: i wonder how to debug this? where can i see message of something failing if i click on my stick from the places menu and nothing happens?
[10:35] <oCean_> konrads_: upgrading would be a huge deal, with uncertain result. Backup your data, and do fresh install might be best option!?
[10:35]  * ultraparadigm is excited! Just beat Portal My first real game in linux. Whoot! <-----such a n00b
[10:36] <raven> is possible to restore a partimage backup into a folder instead of a partition?
[10:36] <konrads_> oCean_: thanks
[10:36] <argued> Dr_Willis: ?
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> argued:  ??
[10:36] <argued> Dr_Willis: anything else I need to keep in mind before doing this?
[10:37] <iflema> CAiRO this kernel recompile you did a complete copy bar the added PAE support?
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> argued:  doing what? I got distractd by some cookies that needed nom noming...
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> :P
[10:37] <CAiRO> iflema: i've created my own "pae flavour" as some of the howtos in the net recommend
[10:37] <argued> Dr_Willis: cookies are good :) ... about the hd I need to change
[10:38] <iflema> CAiRO debug question a good one.... off top of head not sure
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> argued:  i swap them out to USB enclosuires all the time
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> argued:  slowly moving things over to  enclosures with SATA connectors
[10:38] <CAiRO> iflema: if i knew how to see the command that nautilus or the gnome panels tries to run
[10:38] <CAiRO> iflema: i could probably spot the error
[10:39] <argued> Dr_Willis: alright then, I am of to the dealer so you guys have a nice day
[10:39] <CAiRO> iflema: but my first problem is that nautlis always detaches itself from the terminal and seems to have no debug option
[10:40] <iflema> CAiRO start it with a terminal gksu nautilus and watch the terminal for output...
[10:40] <n8lag> what is the .dmrc file for?
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> n8lag:  your GDM default sessuion setting
[10:41] <CAiRO> iflema: as root, it works strangely
[10:41] <iflema> CAiRO maybe
[10:42] <n8lag> sorry but what is gdm?
[10:42] <zetheroo> is there any way to hide the desktop icons without disabling the desktop itself?
[10:42] <n8lag> gnome something?
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  the ubuntu-tweak tool has a setting to do that
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  so its proberly some gnome/gconf setting
[10:42] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: I mean hide all the icons .. not just the system icons
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  I seem to recall that beign a feature.. of course anything in Desktop might still show up
[10:44] <HoodedRat> server irc.goto10.org
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  has a check box to 'Show Desktop Icons'
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  it hides them all here.. even things in Desktop
[10:45] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: oh ok ... will try that out ...
[10:46] <CAiRO> iflema: when i do it as root i can see entries like "Jan 23 11:40:56 belana hald: mounted /dev/sdd1 on behalf of uid 0" in my syslog
[10:46] <CAiRO> but not if i do it as user
[10:47] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: hmm ... maybe I have to log out and back in for the changes to take effect
[10:47] <n8lag> i am trying to record with the mic like so:  rec foo.wav. i can hear the mic on earphones, but the .wav iss totally silent.  any ideas?
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  they got turned off here.. then nautilus crashed.. :)
[10:48] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: hehe ... see when I untick "show_desktop" in gconf-editor I loose all the icons but I also loose the possibility to right-click on the desktop
[10:50] <krixie> hi
[10:50] <fourshore> sudo apt-get install wine=1.1.34
[10:50] <fourshore> version 1.1.34 for wine was not found
[10:50] <fourshore> help
[10:50] <papul> !hi | krixie
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:   could make hide the Volume and other special icons and just keep your Desktop directory empty
[10:51] <n8lag> u can try :  apt-cache search wine
[10:51] <n8lag> that will tell u all the wines they have
[10:51] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: nah ... see I am using the Folder Screenlet ... :)
[10:51] <CAiRO> iflema: just for your information, gnome-mount -vbd seems to have the debug output
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  never heard of it.. :) i find most widgits -- a pain
[10:53] <iflema> CAiRO not there outda box...... but thank u.
[10:57] <iflema> CAiRO hope ya find what ya need..... im worried because of the custom kernel and the adding of users to groups.... you have this trouble.... voids ya support warranty ;) its hard to know exactly what you have been up 2. sorry im not of more useful
[10:58] <CAiRO> iflema: no problem, i've found a workaround meanwhile
[10:58] <CAiRO> iflema: its somehow connected to the policy kit
[10:59] <CAiRO> which thinks my user is not on a local console
[10:59] <CAiRO> i wonder why it does that
[11:00] <papul> how to use git with ubuntu?
[11:00] <fourshore> after decompressing the contents of a tar.bz2 file, how do i run the application/installer?
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> fourshore:  totally depends on what it is/wqas in the arvhive
[11:03] <syockit> fourshore: try binary downloads instead
[11:03] <mikebeecham> does anyone know how to get spotify working under wine?  I installed it, it opens up...I can search, but no tracks play past 1 second???
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> !appdb
[11:03] <eremite> test
[11:03] <kostkon> mikebeecham, check your sound prefs
[11:04] <syockit> fourshore: do you specifically need that version, or do you just want the latest version?
[11:04] <kostkon> mikebeecham, wine's sound prefs i mean. and install the latest version of wine. here's the ppa https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa/
[11:04] <TeamColtra> is there any simple "String Video Clips Together" type program? (I hate to use this example... but like windows movie maker ugh)
[11:05] <kostkon> mikebeecham, you may also find this page useful http://www.spotify.com/en/help/faq/wine/
[11:05] <fourshore> syockit, the latest version doesn't work with the program i'm trying to run, so i need that version
[11:07] <Naam> Hi every one , i really need your help :'( i've installed Crunchbang On a USB (8Go) and i can't boot on other system because i have error 21 on boot :( Can someone help me ?
[11:07] <TeamColtra> Naam, #CrunchBang
[11:07] <Naam> thanks i will try in this chanel
[11:07] <eremite> Naam, join the channel #crunchbang
[11:08] <syockit> fourshore: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/index.html
[11:09] <papul> hi. i want to know what git is and how to use it?
[11:09] <papul> ubuntu documentation SUCKS
[11:09] <blue_pearl> Naam: u there????
[11:09] <Dr_Willis_> !git
[11:10]  * Dr_Willis_ wonders how git Docs lead to the logic of ubuntu docs lacking...
[11:10] <iflema> papul http://git-scm.com/
[11:10] <TeamColtra> papul, why didn't you just try git --help
[11:10] <papul> man i have seen all that
[11:10] <blue_pearl> Naam:try reinstalling the grub.
[11:10] <papul> TeamColtra: i dont thinks i have git installed
[11:10] <Dr_Willis_> papul:  so ask a more specific question perhaps.
[11:10] <TeamColtra> ... then sudo apt-get install git
[11:10] <Dr_Willis_> !info git
[11:11] <papul> !info git-core
[11:11] <TeamColtra> ... then sudo apt-get install git-core
[11:11] <TeamColtra> :P sorry
[11:11] <Dr_Willis_> actually if ya type 'git' i think it tells you to install git-core. :)
[11:11] <TeamColtra> Dr_Willis, I wouldn't know, when I type git it brings up options since I alreayd have it :P
[11:11] <d3xter> hey guys
[11:12] <fourshore> syockit, what's the difference between i386, amd64 and lpia?
[11:12] <Dr_Willis_> TeamColtra:  same here..
[11:12] <d3xter> i've got an msi wind with a bison webcam. when i try to disable/enable my webcam with the fn-key, dmesg says "unkown keycode", which keycode should i set?
[11:12] <papul> but what is git?
[11:13] <TeamColtra> papul, its a revision control program
[11:13] <Dr_Willis_> fast, scalable, distributed revision control system
[11:13] <TeamColtra> papul, if you are asking questions like that... then thats not Ubuntus fault, thats your non ability to do a google search
[11:13] <papul> so i get the latest versions of all programs?
[11:13] <TeamColtra> papul, programs that use git revision system
[11:13] <syockit> fourshore: it's the architecture of the processor you're using. Actually what you need to download depends on which kernel you installed. Try this in terminal: uname -a
[11:14] <d3xter> any hints?
[11:14] <CooPs89> when I run TOP, how come the total memory used is a lot more than the sum of the RES column?
[11:14] <papul> so when i run git what happens? eg. if i run apt then it downloads a deb file and installs it. but what does git do?
[11:15] <syockit> fourshore: if it has x86_64, then you need amd64. if just x86, then i386
[11:15] <coz_> CooPs89,  try installing htop...I dont think you will get better info but maybe better to read and far
[11:15] <coz_> more options
[11:15] <Dr_Willis_> papul:  git lets people work together on source code in a organized maner.
[11:15] <fourshore> syockit, Linux Mick-desktop 2.6.31-17-generic-pae #54-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 10 17:23:29 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:16] <Dr_Willis_> I imagine git could work on other things also.. :) but code is the main ussage
[11:16] <papul> then it of no use to me.
[11:16] <Eagle_> hi guys
[11:16] <Dr_Willis_> papul:  we never said it was.
[11:16] <syockit> fourshore: i686 huh? I suppose you can use the i386 one
[11:16] <papul> btw this is the page that SUCKS https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Git
[11:16] <Dr_Willis_> make it better. then.
[11:16] <coz_> papul,  only if you decide to compile an application from source that is on git
[11:16] <coz_> papul,  then you would need to have git-core installed
[11:17] <lightbricko> My secondary HDD doesn't get mounted anymore. It happened today, and I've not done anything. It's in fstab. It doesn't get mounted at boot and when trying to mount it manually I get "mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /mnt/SamsungPartition busy". Can someone help?
[11:17]  * Dr_Willis_ wonders why papul  says the page sucks.. if he dident even know what the page was about.
[11:17] <Dr_Willis_> but  thats proberly OT. :)
[11:17] <papul> Dr_Willis_: have u seen arch documentation? they are much better
[11:18] <papul> ubuntu is the most widely use linux distro
[11:18] <Dr_Willis_> papul:  i gave up on arch - if you like arch - go use it i guess
[11:18]  * TeamColtra is trying to figure out how such a detailed help page, can "suck"
[11:18] <papul> its documentation should be good
[11:18] <coz_> papul,  how new to linux are you?
[11:18] <Dr_Willis_> You can edit teh documeion if you wanted to. Ive helped tweak seeral of the docs
[11:18] <papul> 1.5 yrs experience
[11:18] <papul> maybe more
[11:19] <coz_> papul, oh well... then any of the distributions should suit you ...ubuntu can be as complex or ready to go easy as you make it
[11:19] <fourshore> syockit, Error: Breaks exisiting package 'wine1.2' conflict: wine (< 1.2)
[11:19] <Parsi> networkmanager does not work:(
[11:19] <oCean_> papul: if you find it insufficient, then contribute. That's what a community is about. But this is more a discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:19]  * TeamColtra has 5 years experience and still uses Linux Mint (mainly for the community)
[11:20] <coz_> o0
[11:20]  * TeamColtra is not trying to troll just saying.
[11:20] <oCean_> !doesnotwork | Parsi
[11:20] <syockit> yup, wine1.2 doesn't allow older wine to exist. you may need to uninstall it first
[11:20] <Parsi> I added DSL connection, but shows nothing to select
[11:20] <rww> oCean_: I'm guessing you want !work
[11:20] <fourshore> syockit, but i can't even do that
[11:21] <oCean_> rww: ghe, yep, that's the one
[11:21] <oCean_> !work | Parsi
[11:21] <syockit> fourshore: why? sudo apt-get remove wine1.2 , or anything like it?
[11:21] <fourshore> syockit, sudo apt-get remove wine, sudo apt-get remove wine
[11:21] <Parsi> oCean_: ah, I said, I added a DSL connection but there is nothing to select
[11:22] <fourshore> syockit, sudo apt-get remove wine, Package wine is not installed, so not removed
[11:22] <syockit> fourshore: sudo apt-get remove wine1.2
[11:22] <richards> hey, i've got a new ubuntu 9.10 server install that i would like to have multiple IPs on different VLAN's on.  However, only the vlan I specify the gateway on works. if i specify gateway in multiple interfaces, then the last one i specify works.
[11:22]  * iflema flash-less youtube... amen.....
[11:22] <fourshore> hmm that worked
[11:22] <fourshore> but why is it 1.2 when it's actually 1.1.36?
[11:23] <sebsebseb> !server | richards
[11:23] <richards> looking in tcpdump shows that pings to ip's that aren't working are being received in the expected place but doesn't show any responses to them.
[11:23] <oCean_> Parsi: in what way you "added a DSL connection" ?
[11:23] <richards> thanks, will ask there
[11:23] <sebsebseb> richards: np
[11:24] <Parsi> oCean_: right click on networknamager and select "Edit conenctions"
[11:24] <Parsi> *connections
[11:24] <isolat3dsh33p> anyone knows the shortcut to focus the entry box in nautilus file browser?
[11:25] <Parsi> there is  'ifupdown(eth0)' connection in the wired conenctions
[11:25] <rww> isolat3dsh33p: if you mean the one where you input a folder to go to, Ctrl-L
[11:26] <isolat3dsh33p> rww, that's it. Thanks :)
[11:26] <rww> isolat3dsh33p: same shortcut as the address bar in various web browsers, incidentally
[11:26] <syockit> fourshore: maybe you accidentally installed wine1.2 previously
[11:26] <isolat3dsh33p> rww, thank's again :D
[11:27] <Parsi> whet I click on NetworkManager opened menu has a disabled Item 'Device is not managed'
[11:27] <Parsi> *when
[11:28] <MauritianGuy> hola
[11:28] <toni_> hola a tod@s
[11:28] <ubuntu51> hello
[11:29] <MauritianGuy> lol
[11:29] <ubuntu51> please help me to change my login themes in new  version of ubuntu
[11:29] <MauritianGuy> i am getting grey hair
[11:29] <toni_> today it's ubuntu user day and at 16:00 let's start , it's true??
[11:29] <ubuntu51> i can't change my login themes
[11:29] <MauritianGuy> i was able to finally install my sound drivers
[11:29] <Dr_Willis_> ubuntu51:  install the old gdm if you want to use all the old gdm themes.. the new gdm is not as theable, theres a few tweaks you can do, and the 'epidermis' tool can install/enable a few themes for it
[11:29] <ubuntu51> any available program to change login themes in new ubuntu
[11:30] <MauritianGuy> thank god ausus made a package that does all the updates and installation all at once for the onboard sound drivers it even removed the default one
[11:30] <MauritianGuy> but i am still struggling with Nvidia
[11:30] <ubuntu51> what the version of old gdm
[11:30] <coz_> UbuntU,  well its actually going to use the installed gtk2 themes you have already let me get the command
[11:30] <teflon> .
[11:31] <Dr_Willis_> ubuntu51:  the 9.04 release has the older gdm. 9.10 uses the new gdm.  the old is still in the repios
[11:31] <ubuntu51> i already install gdm
[11:31] <MauritianGuy> does anyone know where i can get someting called a foo-dev or foo-devel
[11:31] <ubuntu51> but i can't change
[11:31] <MauritianGuy> i googled it i cant find it
[11:31] <Dr_Willis_> ubuntu51:  gdm is installed by default allready... what exactly did you install?
[11:31] <coz_> ubuntu51,  sorry that was for you hold on
[11:31] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: as far as I know it's not as simple as just installing the old GDM, you would have to enable it.   there is some program apparnatly that can maybe change theme for new GDM, can't remember what it's called now, plus not in the repo.   So probably better to just install KDM for example which is in the repo
[11:31] <sebsebseb> !info kdm
[11:31] <MauritianGuy> i think its a compler for cc or c++
[11:32] <coz_> ubuntu51,  run this command   change the gtk2 theme  which will change the gdm theme only  then reboot      gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties
[11:33] <rapcore> poznan.irc.pl
[11:33] <coz_> ubuntu51,   at this point I am using the balanzan theme under user account and also the balanzan gtk2 theme under root which will change the login screen to match my user theme
[11:33]  * Dr_Willis_ dosent worry about themes for somthing he only sees for like 10 sec when he first logins
[11:34] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: KDM looks nice by default,  how Ubuntu does GDM 2 is way to dark for me
[11:34] <coz_> Dr_Willis_,  no but that dark gdm theme is difficult to read at least for me :)
[11:34] <Dr_Willis_> actually I think this box may be using KDM becauise i never changed it back. :)
[11:34] <ubuntu51> i already install gdm 2.0
[11:34] <Dr_Willis_> some bright ugly checkbord wallpaper its using
[11:35] <Dr_Willis_> !info gdm
[11:35] <coz_> Dr_Willis_,  eeww
[11:35] <ubuntu51> u suggest to use old gdm
[11:35] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis_: yeah KDM has a blue theme by default for KDM
[11:35] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: no I suggest to try KDM
[11:35] <Dr_Willis_> ubuntu51:  depemnds on what you want/need...  I suggest not worrying too much about themes.
[11:36] <triple-15> #yogyakarta
[11:36] <papul> any one using a mac theme here?
[11:36] <coz_> ubuntu51,  changing the gdm ...as i mentioned..isnt difficult just a pain in the butt :)
[11:36] <Dr_Willis_> papul:  seen them in the repos.. and basically hated them all. :)
[11:36] <MauritianGuy> what was the ubuntu off topic channel called again
[11:36] <Dr_Willis_> !ot
[11:36] <papul> mee too
[11:36] <MauritianGuy> i mean i cant join it