[06:37] <mlankhorst> RAOF: yeah needs testing though
[06:41] <mlankhorst> plymouth was really annoying, had to rebuild that one first without shlib depends before I could install renamed libdrm
[06:43] <RAOF> Yeah, essential: yes packages make the baby Jesus cry.
[06:45] <mlankhorst> RAOF: I had to disable the binary driver packages because I wasn't sure it would be needed to rename those. Newer versions will probably work with new abi too.
[06:45] <tjaalton> right
[06:45] <tjaalton> although, probably the 'stable' version needs to be renamed
[06:45] <RAOF> That's a fair point; we'd need to ship {nvidia-current,fglrx}-updates, though.
[06:46] <mlankhorst> indeed
[06:47] <mlankhorst> but since this was meant to  be a proof of concept for testing mechanics I felt just using open source drivers was enough for now :)
[06:47] <tjaalton> sure
[06:48] <mlankhorst> the part that scares me is the versioned replaces, I could install xfonts-base on top of the renamed package because it was newer
[06:49] <tjaalton> why would you need a renamed xfonts-base?
[06:49] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: this is just testing mechanics
[06:49] <mlankhorst> so why not
[06:49] <tjaalton> guess there are plenty of packages to test with already :)
[06:50] <mlankhorst> xfonts-base was special because of its dependency on xfonts-utils
[06:50] <tjaalton> ok
[06:51] <mlankhorst> I learned from that renaming xfonts-utils is non-trivial and an update would probably be better in that case
[06:52] <tjaalton> likely no need for either
[06:52] <mlankhorst> true, but good to test regardless
[06:53] <mlankhorst> and maybe not for quantal, but there are some other stacks to test too :)
[06:53] <tjaalton> core fonts, who uses them anymore anyway :)
[06:54] <tjaalton> no great new features to be seen there
[06:54] <RAOF> Are you sure we shouldn't backport xfs? :P
[06:54] <tjaalton> i'm sure we should drop it :)
[06:54] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: yeah but if xshiny-new-bright-fonts comse along that requires a new xfonts-utils
[06:55] <tjaalton> well maybe not drop it, low maintenance
[06:56] <RAOF> You mean: drop it as soon as someone files a bug against it. ?
[06:56] <tjaalton> hehe
[06:56] <mlankhorst> well duh D:
[06:56] <mlankhorst> dont drop it, just replace by empty package, see who complains, bahah
[06:57] <mlankhorst> lets see if the renamed stack installs on the cd
[06:58] <mlankhorst> im not going to let it anywhere near my dummy pc's hard drive
[07:15] <mlankhorst> hm console-setup gets annoyed too
[07:26] <mlankhorst> I guess now the goal is to get it installed without causing ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-minimal to be removed :)
[07:31] <RAOF> :)
[07:33] <tjaalton> that would mean the provides are broken
[07:34] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: yeah can't do versioned provides
[07:35] <tjaalton> do they actually need those?
[07:35] <mlankhorst> that's the reason they're broken..
[07:35] <tjaalton> huh
[07:38] <RAOF> What's depending on explicit versions of the stack?
[07:47] <mlankhorst> usually because of a Depends ${shlib:Depends}
[07:48] <mlankhorst> which means basically anything that links to any library in our stack
[08:14] <RAOF> Oh, right.
[08:14] <RAOF> I thought we weren't updating libraries, though.
[08:14] <tjaalton> libdrm..
[08:14] <tjaalton> at least
[08:15] <tjaalton> probably not due to that though
[08:15] <RAOF> Right. But there's nothing outside the stack that depends on libdrm (?).
[08:15] <tjaalton> yeah
[08:17] <mlankhorst> RAOF: yeah but plymouth/intel-gpu-tools have versioned depends
[08:17] <mlankhorst> and console-setup had a versioned depends on xkb or something
[08:17] <RAOF> Yeah, but I was counting those as a part of the stack.
[08:17] <RAOF> Ah, console-setup?  Hmm.
[08:18] <mlankhorst> atm im just trying to get to 0 removes, so by pushing new packages im keeping track of which packages break
[08:18] <tjaalton> console-setup could drop the versioned depend
[08:18] <tjaalton> >= 0.9..
[08:18] <mlankhorst> thats what my rebuild does
[08:19] <tjaalton> we're at 2.5 now
[08:19] <mlankhorst> get it in for quantal, then :D
[08:19] <mlankhorst> i dont have the rights to push anything
[08:20] <tjaalton> it should go as an SRU for precise as well
[08:20] <tjaalton> preferably before 12.04.1..
[08:26] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: we're not sure yet what packages we would need, this is just a test of the mechanics
[08:27] <tjaalton> so it's not blocking anything?
[08:27] <tjaalton> i'm confused
[08:27] <mlankhorst> erm, it depends if we decide we need a new xkeyboard-config and x11-xkb-utils or not
[08:27] <tjaalton> it's a nice-to-have, not something hw enablement needs
[08:29] <mlankhorst> if you want it drop version in console-setup and sru it, if not just dont ship those 2 renamed :-)
[08:30] <tjaalton> dropping the version is easier
[08:31] <mlankhorst> oh right, need to rebuild the xorg package too
[08:32] <mlankhorst> RAOF: any objections if the xorg source package will be treated specially? makes things a lot easier
[08:36] <RAOF> None at all.
[08:36] <mlankhorst> perfect :-)
[08:36] <tjaalton> yeah, big thumbs up from me
[08:37] <tjaalton> most of the metapackages it builds make no sense
[08:37] <tjaalton> for the backports
[08:37] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: those metapackages need to be tweaked to depend on the oldname | newname
[08:37] <tjaalton> right
[08:59] <mlankhorst> hm, how can I see why apt-get install .*lts-backport-quantal decides to remove some packages?
[09:01] <RAOF> mlankhorst: I find that aptitude's resolver is sometimes more usefully verbose.
[09:02] <mlankhorst> yeah but it doesn't allow regexp install
[09:02] <RAOF> ~nlts-backport-quantal
[09:02] <mlankhorst> ty :)
[09:03] <RAOF> You can also play around with the debug options (pass -o to apt-get, check out "man apt.conf" for the things you can actually *pass* to apt-get)
[09:05] <mlankhorst> oh libxklavier16 was going to be removed it seems
[09:05] <mlankhorst> xkb-data >= 0.8, sigh
[09:07] <tjaalton> uh
[09:09] <mlankhorst> klavier is flemish for keyboard :)
[09:19] <mlankhorst> oh fun, it keeps adding the versioned depend on xkb-data back
[09:19] <tjaalton> check if there's a control.in
[09:20] <tjaalton> since it's a gnome package..
[09:20] <mlankhorst> yeah it has ;s
[09:20] <mlankhorst> just independently noticed it
[09:20] <tjaalton> so modify that instead
[09:21] <mlankhorst> yeah i did, i keep running into weird new ways of packaging :-)
[09:23] <mlankhorst> almost all packages seem to have their own silly way to break
[09:25] <mlankhorst> success! It only replaces the X stack itself now
[09:27] <tjaalton> nice
[09:29] <mlankhorst> still some package failure it seems
[09:29] <mlankhorst> oh right.. cant install libgl1-mesa-swx11 at the same time as the normal version
[09:33]  * RAOF wonders why we even build that package
[09:36] <mlankhorst> no idea :-)
[09:37] <mlankhorst> probably carried over from debian and removing was more work
[09:38] <tjaalton> just that it's become somewhat obsolete on the hw we support
[09:38] <tjaalton> due to llvmpipe
[09:39] <tjaalton> i'd like to drop the 8 & 16bit osmesa packages..
[09:39] <mlankhorst> oh woops, probably broken due to rename
[09:41] <mlankhorst> looks like mesa packaging needs more love
[09:56] <mlankhorst> hm, how do the bug scripts work?
[09:57] <mlankhorst> seems they're path dependent on package name, but with renamed package it looks like it would break
[10:21] <tjaalton> do we want bugs for them?-)
[10:21] <tjaalton> besides, you can just use the original names/links
[10:21] <tjaalton> we don't really want bugreports against the renamed source packages..
[10:22] <mlankhorst> i have no idea how the mechanism is supposed to work for that
[10:24] <mlankhorst> but ok I'll trust you on that one. :s
[10:25] <tjaalton> well, it's just pointing to the xorg bug script
[10:26] <tjaalton> but not sure if apport will use the package source name anyway
[10:28] <mlankhorst> ill just keep it broken for now
[10:29] <mlankhorst> I don't think it's a source package, but the binary package being used
[12:58] <tjaalton> hm, apport isn't that useful.. my gpu hung and apport offered to report a bug, but after clicking 'continue' the window just closed and didn't open lp for finishing the submission
[12:58] <mlankhorst> oh seems we DO need all open source drivers including the ugly ones for testing, else xserver-xorg-video-all fails
[12:59] <tjaalton> or you create xserver-xorg-{input,video}-some
[12:59] <tjaalton> probably not a good idea..
[13:02] <mlankhorst> well i can replace the X stack now at least
[13:03] <mlankhorst> I think the upgrade is breaking because of the last missing ones to satisfy the xserver-xorg-video-all install
[13:08] <mlankhorst> my goal for today is simply being able to install the renamed stack without removing any packages that haven't been renamed.
[13:35] <tjaalton> hmm, does kernel 3.4 require something special for intel? it's not using intel kms here..
[13:35] <tjaalton> but vesa, which probably makes the kernel hang hard after maybe 10s
[13:37] <mlankhorst> anything in xorg log?
[13:38] <tjaalton> just that it falls back using vesa
[13:38] <tjaalton> in fact it doesn't initialize drm at all
[13:38] <tjaalton> ..
[13:38] <mlankhorst> o.o
[13:38] <tjaalton> revealed by dmesg
[13:39] <mlankhorst> well there you go, then
[13:40] <mlankhorst> the pae kernel should work on non-pae hardware right?
[13:42] <tjaalton> not sure
[13:43] <tjaalton> actually no, it doesn't work
[13:47] <tjaalton> 3.4 works on an old i965 based machine
[14:04] <bjsnider> is there still a non-pae i386 kernel?
[14:06] <tjaalton> it's getting removed from quantal
[14:06] <tjaalton> or not built anymore, dunno
[14:12] <tjaalton> the problem I had was missing dri modules from the drm-next build
[14:12] <tjaalton> ..
[14:15] <mlankhorst> hm during upgrading it removes ubuntu-desktop, but i can install it again afterwards, sigh
[14:21] <mlankhorst> I guess I'll need to specify ALL the packages to apt-get in 1 go :)
[14:21] <tjaalton> check with aptitude why it removes u-d
[14:22] <mlankhorst> i know why, i missed some packages causing xorg to be removed
[14:23] <mlankhorst> so I'm just going to create a dummy package in xorg that has a dependency on the whole renamed stack
[14:24] <tjaalton> ok
[14:30] <mlankhorst> hm, how do I sed variables in a makefile?
[14:31] <mlankhorst> nm I think ill split it off to its own package
[16:46] <mlankhorst> bryceh/raof: I can install the updated stack from q-lts-backport now, see the mail I sent on the ubuntu-x mailing list :-)
[23:36] <bryceh> mlankhorst, sweet


[02:54] <Burgundavia> beuno: I did some editing on the UWN
[02:54] <Burgundavia> figured I would let you know that I am editing again, but don't want to usurp you
[02:56] <beuno> Burgundavia: I saw, and you're the editor, I'm just helping out, so feel more then free to do and undo  :D
[02:56] <beuno> all input is welcome, btw
[02:56] <Burgundavia> well, given I have been away for so long, I don't want to step on anybodies toes by doing things that have been changed
[02:57] <beuno> I'll make sure I tell you if something is been done differently, but it's good you're back!
[05:33] <adamant1988> jenda: Can you help me with a spec? Mrevell helped me get the thing organized but I can't get him to help edit it
[05:33] <jenda> hmm
[05:33] <jenda> ok, link?
[05:33] <jenda> I can't promise anything
[05:33] <adamant1988> sure.
[05:33] <adamant1988> Just a sec
[05:33] <jenda> I've got tons of work, and _should_ really be working on DIY...
[05:34] <adamant1988> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/JobBoard
[05:34] <adamant1988> He helped me get the ideas on how it should be done together.
[05:38] <jenda> interesting...
[05:38] <adamant1988> He suggested launchpad, but I'm sure if that falls through alternative software is out there.
[05:38] <adamant1988> I think it could help us in particular get a lot done faster.
[05:40] <jenda> what's the difference between these points and ... karma?
[05:41] <adamant1988> nothing, I just wanted to avoid using the word Karma in case the launchpad thing falls though
[05:41] <jenda> ok
[05:41] <jenda> I'd go with launchpad myself...
[05:41] <adamant1988> As a side thing, I thought perhaps the points could be redeemable with Canonical for swag and such, if Mark likes the idea.
[05:42] <jenda> hmm
[05:42] <jenda> interesting
[05:42] <adamant1988> like so many hundreds of points = free t-shirt
[05:42] <jenda> sweet
[05:42] <adamant1988> It's a direct incentive to help out
[05:42] <adamant1988> should I take this spec to mark?
[05:42] <jenda> I could send out stickers to high-ranking pointers ;)
[05:42] <jenda> Nah - not until it's necessary.
[05:43] <adamant1988> Yeah, just little prizes and such would be a nice incentive to get involved and take some specs
[05:43] <jenda> You could ask around canonical, though... matt revell, chris kenyon.... christina armstrong...
[05:43] <adamant1988> Matt revell likes the idea, don't know about Kenyon or Armstrong
[05:45] <jenda> I need to get a snack, brb
[05:45] <jenda> It's a good idea. I'll give it some thought, adamant1988.
[05:46] <adamant1988> jenda: sure, thanks ^_^
[09:13] <AlphaRomeo> hi guys
[09:33] <PWill> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/89035
[09:37] <jenda> huh


[00:00] <sarnold> zzz_: no; what are you trying to solve?
[00:00] <sarnold> geigerCounter: sorry, I had to run last night; how'd things work out?
[00:05] <Henster> https://www.youtube.com/live_dashboard
[00:05] <zzz_> sarnold i have a croned .sh that logs in to a service with secret credentials. if i run the file directly from the command line i get a warning that i shouldnt use passwords on the command line
[00:05] <Henster> hey whats up im messing around
[00:05] <zzz_> i am making sure it's safe to do so
[00:06] <Henster> mine ?
[00:06] <Henster> lol ok
[00:06] <Henster> damm trying to make the bacround screen look cool
[00:10] <Henster> lol this is hard wrok lol
[00:10] <sarnold> zzz_: aha. :) note that processes and their arguments are visible via top or ps auxw or /proc/*/cmdline
[00:11] <sarnold> zzz_: so it's not very safe to call it that way if you have untrusted users or untrusted services on your computer
[00:12] <patdk-lap> what service?
[00:20] <Henster> hey man can you guys see video on my stream
[01:59] <geigerCounter> sarnold: Tactical retreat for sanity's sake. Never got anybody to try connecting to my server to see, but a port tester was able to connect fine. So I think it is the ISP of my current location blocking the connection. :/
[01:59] <sarnold> geigerCounter: aha. do you still need testing?
[01:59] <geigerCounter> This is rather obnoxious, of course, because I can't try testing with a mail client.
[01:59] <geigerCounter> sarnold: Yep.
[01:59] <sarnold> geigerCounter: what address?
[02:00] <geigerCounter> sarnold: somethinghub.com
[02:01] <sarnold> geigerCounter: it sure feels like a firewall set to DROP rather than REJECT
[02:02] <geigerCounter> sarnold: Yes, yes it does. But I'm also having trouble with authenticating locally over s_client, so I've got two issues for the price of one.
[02:02] <sarnold> what a deal!
[02:03]  * geigerCounter laughs
[02:03] <geigerCounter> Fortunately I have something to stave away the frustration.
[02:04] <geigerCounter> sarnold: http://youtu.be/T-hZhr2k2hk
[02:08] <sarnold> geigerCounter: nice :)
[02:09] <sarnold> I've got ghostbusters 2 going at the moment
[02:45] <geigerCounter> sarnold: Did the test succeed?
[02:46] <sarnold> geigerCounter: no, I never got any response to the HELO command, it just hung like a firewall was dropping packets
[02:46] <geigerCounter> :/
[02:46] <geigerCounter> Try EHLO ?
[02:47]  * sarnold facepalm.gif
[02:48] <sarnold> geigerCounter: sigh. _my_ ISP blocks outgoing port 25.
[02:48] <sarnold> geigerCounter: testing from another machine shows your machine works just fine.
[02:48] <sarnold> 220 somethinghub.com ESMTP Exim 4.82 Ubuntu Sat, 18 Feb 2017 21:47:41 -0500
[03:01] <geigerCounter> sarnold: Awesome
[03:02] <geigerCounter> Why do so many ISPs block it, I wonder?
[03:05] <sarnold> they're trying to cut down spam from their users when they get compromised
[03:06] <sarnold> and they do, users install the stupidest things in their browsers, or click on the stupidest things in their email..
[03:09] <patdk-lap> there is NO ligit usecase for users to send email using port 25
[03:10] <patdk-lap> expecially this day in age when your email has reputation, dkim, and spf rules it MUST pass
[03:11] <patdk-lap> also, residentual isp don't normally have static ip, and let you set the reverse dns entry, that are required for email also
[09:38] <zioproto> hello all
[09:38] <zioproto> I was looking at this charms bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/mediawiki/+bug/1655069
[09:39] <zioproto> I am not yet very familiar with Charms, looks like the code on Launchpad is only for Precise branches
[09:39] <zioproto> I cant figure out where is the Xenial code for this charm, can anybody help me out ?
[13:43] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[14:16] <blizzow> I think one of the recent kernel releases broke 16.04's OOM killer. In particular the OOM killer has become really aggressive with KVM virtualization.
[14:16] <blizzow> https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/proxmox-4-4-5-kernel-out-of-memory-kill-process-8543-kvm-score-or-sacrifice-child.31569/#post-157162
[14:17] <blizzow> The OOM killer is killing VMs even with less than 60% of my hypervisor RAM being used.
[15:08] <lordievader> Really? That is quite agressive indeed. Is more memory committed that allowed?
[18:16] <geigerCounter> Hi all. What terminal text editor do y'all use?
[18:17] <caliculk> I am currently having some apt packaging issues. Not sure how it happened, as I don't recall updating the server in several days. I have tried using 'dpkg --configure -a' and removing the lock file and trying to upgrade again, but unfortunately, it still won't work.
[18:18] <OerHeks> geigerCounter, nano vim
[18:18] <caliculk> Full log is here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24028525/
[18:20] <OerHeks> caliculk, proper solution: run 'sudo fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat ' to see what process, and kill it. >> http://askubuntu.com/a/380701
[18:20] <caliculk> Yeah, just found that.
[18:20] <caliculk> I thought I would come here first.
[18:21] <OerHeks> Good thinking, go ahead.
[18:21] <thrasos_> hello
[18:22] <geigerCounter> OerHeks: Neat. I've been trying out this fairly recent one called micro that I've been enjoying so far.
[18:23] <thrasos_> I am trying to enable CORS (Cross Origin Resource Sharing )
[18:23] <thrasos_> any tips?
[18:23] <caliculk> Well, I guess this was part of the problem - https://paste.ubuntu.com/24028554/ grub won't upgrade :/
[20:34] <Doow> I'm trying to install mariadb-server and using the command mysql_secure_installation, it complains about not being able to write some files to disk, even if I run it with sudo -u mysql, am I supposed to run it as root? I don't want to screw up the permissions for later.
[20:35] <Doow> log: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24029495/
[20:37] <Doow> Looking at the files on disk it seems to be a bit of a mix between root and mysql that owns things
[20:37] <compdoc> I think you do run with the mysql root account
[20:40] <compdoc> shouldnt matter if you are root or not. shouldnt need to sudo
[20:42] <Doow> ok, it definitely does on this machine
[20:43] <Doow> maybe I've screwed up permissions allready, I've installed/purged/reinstalled


[00:00] <Sonnentae> help!
[00:01] <kaddi> !ask
[00:01] <kaddi> sry, wrong channel
[00:21] <kyle__> has anybody tried linux gamers
[00:22] <MushroomKingdom> Linux gamers?
[00:22] <kyle__> yup
[00:22] <kyle__> its a os
[00:22] <MushroomKingdom> Oh. Nope
[00:24] <kyle__> its 3gb.. im going ot try it in virtual box in a hour
[00:25] <nashk>  hi, where do the devices fro sound reside? For example, in settings when I set my sound to go to hdmi, where is that in /dev dir?
[00:29] <mahi> Can someone help my stop my machine from locking up. I can't seem to do anything on it now??
[00:29] <kyle__> is it freezing?
[00:30] <kyle__> or shuting off?
[00:30] <mahi> it's freezing
[00:30] <kyle__> whats running at start up?
[00:31] <kyle__> or how big is you partition for kubuntu?
[00:31] <mahi> it gets to my login but then once logged in it had forgotten where it was in location and my top menu ar was unclickable
[00:31] <mahi> 65 gb
[00:31] <kyle__> huh
[00:32] <mahi> it maxed out on friday and now I have 10gb free space I think. I can't run system monitor to check things out
[00:32] <kyle__> ive never heard of a experience like that on kubuntu
[00:33] <ign0ramus> mahi, have you fsck'd the drive lately? also, if it was maxed, did you try making space from recovery kernel options?
[00:33] <kyle__> maybe you downloaded something that created a bunch errors
[00:34] <fossil> dose any one know how to bypass a st.bernard web filter
[00:35] <fossil> like an open port or something
[00:37] <mahi> kyle__ I did an fsck on friday to fix some errors I noticed during boot, I use a live gparted
[00:38] <mahi> it appears to only be issues with my personal login, I am on another one now and all seems well I think..
[00:38] <kyle__> thats strange then
[00:40] <mahi> very.. I guess so I can get working asap I should just make a new account and delete my old one?
[00:40] <kyle__> maybe something to do with KDE wallet when it loads
[00:41] <kyle__> may save you some time doing that.. but im sure its fixeable
[00:41] <kyle__> have you tried googling it?
[00:42] <mahi> I am useing gnome on the affected machine though, should that use kde wallet?
[00:42] <kyle__> nope
[00:43] <mahi> I did try google, but to be honest I was having trouble wording my query
[00:44] <kyle__> what did you search?
[00:45] <fossil> dose any one know how to bypass a st.bernard web filter
[00:45] <fossil> other than proxies
[00:48] <kyle__> mahi: try login crashes maybe? ... also try the Ubuntu forum for similar errors
[00:54] <fossil> how do i read a usb floppy on kubuntu
[00:54] <fossil> lol
[00:54] <fossil> smart disk
[00:59] <TurtlePie> I am switching to Kubuntu
[00:59] <TurtlePie> I have messed my GUI up installing KDE over Gnome and its a big mess of apps
[00:59] <TurtlePie> I need a fresh start anyways
[01:00] <manCoulter> xchm sucks becuase it doesent let you cut/paste text from it.
[01:00] <manCoulter> is there a decent chm reader out there?
[01:00] <TurtlePie> chm is what?
[01:00] <manCoulter> xchmview sucks because paragraphs overlap.  wtf is that ?!?!?!?1
[01:01] <kyle__> virtual box isnt loading os properly
[01:03] <TurtlePie> virtual box is usually pretty good to me
[01:03] <Dragnslcr> !purekde | TurtlePie
[01:04] <TurtlePie> I have default gnome Ubuntu 9.04 install
[01:04] <TurtlePie> any ideas?
[01:04] <um4ooo> hi all
[01:04] <um4ooo> ::)
[01:07] <claudio_> ioigente
[01:07] <claudio_> como uso isto aki hoje é a primeira vez
[01:07] <claudio_> alguem ai pode me ajudar
[01:08] <kyle__> has anybody tried linux gamers?
[01:08] <hagabaka> linux gamesr?
[01:08] <hagabaka> *gamers?
[01:10] <kyle__> yes
[01:18] <kyle__> is there a way to reformat my computer from kubuntu to ubuntu without a live boot disk?
[01:19] <Dragnslcr> kyle__- you can just install the ubuntu-desktop package
[01:22] <ederico> hello, I would like to know how to disable the disk check at startup after an irregular shutdown
[01:43] <kyle__> is there a iso reader for kubuntu
[01:48] <tomsdale> does anyone know whether dolphin can preview audio files (.waw)
[01:50] <kyle__> i dont think so
[01:50] <kyle__> not with kubuntu
[01:50] <kyle__> try right clicking for options
[01:50] <tomsdale> I did - I was hoping there was an extension or something.
[01:50] <tomsdale> konqueror con't do it either
[02:03] <mkasson> kind of a minor-ish gripe, but I notice that when I resize a window, I move the handle and there's a very (un)appreciable delay for the window to resize
[02:03] <mkasson> is this kde or do I maybe need to tweak some stuff
[02:04] <xjjk> was KDE 4.2.3 going to hit kubuntu-backports?
[02:04] <xjjk> jaunty backports, rather
[02:09] <Unksi> xjjk: there is a ppa repo for it, no idea when they will land to backports, would expect to take a good while so they can be tested thoroughly
[02:10] <Unksi> the ppa has worked without any problems for me on both 32 and 64bit
[02:10] <Unksi> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu  jaunty main
[02:10] <xjjk> Unksi: in the past, packages hit backports quickly I think
[02:11] <faileas> hmm, any idea where the keyring for that is?
[02:11] <Unksi> hmm, it is mentioned on the launchpad page if i recall correctly
[02:12] <frustrateduser> i can not see my wireless network, even though my driver is configured correctly. any ideas? wcid doesn't show it, i can assume the driver is correct becasue i see my usb adapter wiht a green light and when i do a iwconfig and ifconfig, I can see my adapater.
[02:12] <Wazmyn> i've got the partner repo enabled - but i'm not seeing any packages from it. Anybody know hat could be causing this?
[02:13] <Wazmyn> frustrateduser: is your SSID hidden?
[02:13] <Unksi> Wazmyn: have you run apt-get update?
[02:13] <Wazmyn> Unksi: yes
[02:13] <Wazmyn> Unksi: several times
[02:13] <frustrateduser> when i do a /etc/init.d/networking restart, i see a DHCPDISCOVER with no response from my router's dhcp server. any help would be appreicated in thsi matter, i am tailing /var/log/syslog (i've been doing this for 8+ hours)
[02:13] <frustrateduser> my ssid is not hidden Wazmyn, I can see it fine from my windows box
[02:14] <Wazmyn> frustrateduser: ok, the new app won't show mine if it's hidden, was why i asked
[02:14] <mase_work> hey guys, when i resume from hibernate or suspend, it seems to log me out into KDM. Is this likely a KDE issue or somewhere else in the system ? I am just not really sure how / where to begin tracking this down.
[02:14] <frustrateduser> honeslty at this point, i'd take any suggestion. i went out and bought a wusb54gc because my dnex wouldn't work, so i already spent 50+$ and almost 9 hours on this issue
[02:17] <frustrateduser> i am seeing a DHCPDISCOVER but no ack back from the DHCP server
[02:17] <frustrateduser> shouldn't this lookup be automatic (like on windows?)
[02:17] <frustrateduser> do I have to statistically create the dhcp server location?
[02:17] <frustrateduser> s/create/give
[02:18] <tobi> !autostart
[02:19] <tobi> need to get the command "sudo pon dsl-provider" as kind of autostart... any idea?
[02:21] <rgarcia> Hi all...could anybody help me?
[02:21] <Wazmyn> rgarcia: just ask your question
[02:21] <tobi> maybe?!
[02:23] <rgarcia> so here it go...i'm using kubuntu 9.04...and amarok its a little bit different of the older one...in this new version has an advanced options as the other?
[02:24] <xjjk> rgarcia: it depends
[02:24] <xjjk> rgarcia: AFAIK Amarok 2.0 is not feature complete compared to 1.4, it doesn't do everything 1.4 did
[02:24] <rgarcia> mm...and can I install amarok 1.4?
[02:25] <xjjk> I'm not sure
[02:25] <tobi> degrage should be possible
[02:25] <tobi> googled it yet?
[02:26] <rgarcia> not yet..let me try
[02:26] <xjjk> rgarcia: http://nomad.ca/blog/2009/apr/3/amarok-14-jaunty-ubuntu-904/ looks interesting
[02:26] <tobi> there it is :D
[02:28] <tobi> How can I write a script that starts automaticaly while booting my laptop?
[02:28] <xjjk> tobi: you want to start your PPP connection on boot?
[02:28] <rgarcia> wow guys..thanks a lot
[02:28] <tobi> yes
[02:28] <xjjk> rgarcia: beware that's a 3rd party repository... the quality of the packages/etc may not be as good as what Ubuntu provides
[02:29] <xjjk> tobi: there's probably a "proper" way to do that, but I don't know what it is
[02:29] <xjjk> but to answer your question, put the startup script in /etc/rc.local
[02:29] <xjjk> to run on startup
[02:29] <mot_> having a bit of a situation...i was using usb audio and have removed it and want to use my onboard audio
[02:29] <mot_> i removed the blacklist of the onboard card and it is recognized, however when i open any app to play sound, it acts as if playing but no sound comes out.
[02:29] <mot_> the device is recognized and configured in kde/other programs, just no sound. any ideas?
[02:30] <tobi> mot_ I thinks it's PulseAudio, ...
[02:30] <xjjk> mot_: if you had multiple devices, it may be using the old device as default...
[02:30] <xjjk> not sure the best way to handle this, though
[02:30] <xjjk> tobi: I didn't think Kubuntu came with Pulseaudio
[02:30] <mot_> nah i changed those settings
[02:30] <tobi> xjjk I got Pulse with Jaunty ...
[02:31] <mot_> mm i set the card index to -2, then i commented that out, let me set its index to 0 and restart kde
[02:31] <tobi> Got kind of same prob ...
[02:31] <mot_> or i guess i need to restart my box
[02:32] <kaddi_> if i wanted to use the registry-tools package from samba would i have to install something else, or only that package?
[02:32] <kaddi_> how do i launch their registry editor?
[02:33] <tobi> xjjk normaly my ppp should start, so said the pppoeconf, that one changes the rc.local (right?!) but before I can go online after booting, I have to execute >sudo poff dsl-provider< following >sudo pon dsl-provider< first ...
[02:33] <tobi> You get the startup sound after logging in ?
[02:36] <mot_> hey
[02:36] <mot_> can i restart my sound system without rebooting the machine each time?
[02:37] <tobi> mot_ you got any startupsound after logging in ?
[02:38] <mot_> no
[02:38] <mot_> i set my card index to 0 and it's recognized, but no sound
[02:38] <tobi> bad! tryed to run a multimedia hardware sound test already?
[02:38] <mrunagi> my lord, what did the kubuntu overlords do to a beautiful operating system =(
[02:38] <mot_> nope, how do i do that?
[02:40] <tobi> system-settings/multimedia, ... there you should find a TestButton!
[02:40] <mrunagi> !loop
[02:52] <rgarcia> Guys i've tried to change my amarok versino as the website is saying, but occured an error, see it
[02:53] <rgarcia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/169214/
[02:54] <rgarcia> any ideas?
[02:58] <rgarcia> ??
[03:00] <davidjheinrich> hi all
[03:01] <davidjheinrich> quick question: is there any reason I sohuld use Kubuntu 9.04's new default IRC client, Quassel, rather than Konersation?
[03:02] <Dragnslcr> Quassel uses KDE4, so it'll integrate better with the rest of the desktop
[03:04] <davidjheinrich> yea, that's what I read...I'm just confused on what the benefit of that is
[03:05] <davidjheinrich> I mean, to me, that's like a buzz word...I'm not sure how Konersation was deficient in 8.10, so I don't know why I'm switching to a less user-friendly client, imo (for starters, no tabs for IRC rooms)
[03:08] <Dragnslcr> Quassel has "tabs" in its own way
[03:08] <Dragnslcr> They're just called buffers, and you can only have them as a sidebar list
[03:08] <workspace1> well ok....
[03:08] <workspace1> hello
[03:08] <davidjheinrich> what i see of Quassel is a list on the side; which for me is inefficient...I'm not in so many rooms at once that it would be more efficient to have a side-bar vs. horizontal tabs
[03:08] <workspace1> :^)
[03:10] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I'd rather have a tab bar at the top, too
[03:10] <Dragnslcr> Quassel definitely has its share of problems that will hopefully be addressed as it matures
[03:14] <workspace1> bye
[03:14] <davidjheinrich> guess I'll stick with Konversation for now, as I like it better, and am not sure why desktop integration benefits me with IRC
[03:14] <Dragnslcr> Mostly look and feel
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> Like the background color will follow whatever you set as your KDE theme
[03:16] <davidjheinrich> I think maybe the push to complete Qt4 was a little premature...I mean, eye-candy doesn't make Quassel easier to use than Konversation (although I know Quas developers are hard at work to make it easier to use)
[03:18] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I'm not sure why they switched to Quassel as the default IRC client
[03:18] <Dragnslcr> I've gotten used to it, though. I learn to live with the minor annoyances
[03:21] <tdapple> I installed kde4 version of konversation from svn, it works very well
[03:24] <ign0ramus> tdapple, does you version allow for right-clicking on nicks in the chat window?
[03:24] <ralmar> Hey guys. I installed kubuntu-deskpto package on top of my Ubuntu 9.04 installattion. about a couple weeks ago. However the last time i booted up I noticed I was presented with the kubuntu loading screen. Not my usual Ubuntu boot up screen, even though my default desktop environment is gnome. Why could this be and how can I change it ? Thanks
[03:25] <ign0ramus> ralmar, are you using gdm to login?
[03:25] <ralmar> ign0ramus. Im sorry, what is gmd? gnome desktop manager?
[03:26] <ChrisTwitty> Can I get some help installing kubuntu on my netvista
[03:26] <ralmar> When I login I see the usual login screen I have always seen with Ubuntu (gnome)
[03:26] <ign0ramus> ralmar, well, firstly, what do you mean, 'loading screen'?
[03:26] <ign0ramus> ralmar, where it says (K)Ubuntu, and there's the progress bar?
[03:27] <ralmar> ign0ramus, exactly
[03:28] <tdapple> how does one get to the akonadi console?
[03:28] <ign0ramus> ralmar, not that i don't want to answer your question directly, but does this cause any issues for you at all?
[03:29] <ralmar> well.. no.. but I find it extremely weird that this happened all of a sudden. And I am worried something malicious might be the cause
[03:29] <ign0ramus> ralmar, i highly doubt that is the case.  do you have the package "kubuntu-artwork-usplash" installed?
[03:30] <ralmar> ign0ramus, yes. I do
[03:31] <ralmar> is there any way to see when I installed that?
[03:31] <ign0ramus> ralmar, this used to work, but what does "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so" do for you?
[03:32] <ralmar> There are 2 alternatives which provide `usplash-artwork.so'.
[03:32] <ralmar>   Selection    Alternative
[03:32] <ralmar> -----------------------------------------------
[03:32] <ralmar>           1    /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-ubuntu.so
[03:32] <ralmar> *+        2    /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so
[03:32] <ralmar> Press enter to keep the default[*], or type selection number
[03:32] <ign0ramus> ralmar, well there you go... you obviously have the Kubuntu splash screen selected.  Change it if you wish.
[03:32] <ralmar> I see the kubuntu one is set as default.. But I had never seen that splash screen until a few minutes ago
[03:33] <ign0ramus> ralmar, i don't know if it was an update that changed this or you (by accident), but that is how you change it back.
[03:33] <ralmar> ign0ramus,  well thanks a bunch for your help. Is there any way to know when a specific package was installed?
[03:34] <ign0ramus> ralmar, yes there is.. but i cannot remember it off the top of my head... it's either an apt or dpkg command.
[03:34] <ign0ramus> ralmar, i can look around for you, but i'm sure someone here knows the answer
[03:34] <ralmar> ign0ramus, I´ll just look it up. You´ve already helped me enough :)
[03:35] <ign0ramus> ralmar, np... i know it wasn't a huge issue, but little stuff like that bugs the hell out of me, too :)
[03:38] <ign0ramus> ralmar, synaptic has a 'history' feature that shows when packages were installed, but i would like to know the command this is calling...
[03:39] <fornix> probably the command is apt-cache
[03:40] <ign0ramus> ralmar, "sudo less /var/log/apt/term.log" seems to be somewhat helpful, but i'm sure this is another command.  fornix is on the right track...
[03:42] <ralmar> ign0ramus,  and fornix, thanks a lot, really. The history thing was really useful. I just opened the synaptic package manager and wen to "File" then "History" and I was able to see all the packages I have installed, sorted by date. Anyway, I was able to find the following command a couple mins before you told me that ;). ls -tl /var/lib/dpkg/info/ | less shows the installed packages sorted by date. Hope that helps others too.
[03:42] <yao_ziyuan> pressing alt+f2 no longer invokes the Run dialog
[03:42] <yao_ziyuan> which app didn't i run in the first place?
[03:42] <edoceo> After upgrading to Jaunty my /dev/cdrom is no longer working
[03:42] <ign0ramus> ralmar, good to hear :)
[03:43] <edoceo> I can eject and `eject -t` to manipulate dirve but if I try to mount I get mount /dev/sr0 unknown device
[03:43] <yao_ziyuan> also, ctrl+esc doesn't work now
[03:43] <ign0ramus> yao_ziyuan, do you have desktop effects enabled?
[03:43] <yao_ziyuan> ign0ramus: yes
[03:44] <ign0ramus> yao_ziyuan, if you disable them, does alt+f2 work? (known issue)
[03:44] <yao_ziyuan> no
[03:44] <ign0ramus> yao_ziyuan, hmmm.. lemme see
[03:45] <ign0ramus> yao_ziyuan, what if you run "krunner" from terminal?
[03:45] <yao_ziyuan> ign0ramus: error messages
[03:45] <yao_ziyuan> ign0ramus: and exit.
[03:46] <yao_ziyuan> ign0ramus: 5 lines of error messages. should i paste here?
[03:46] <ign0ramus> yao_ziyuan, that's an issue then.  you can pastebin the error, or try to purge and re-install the package.
[03:46] <yao_ziyuan> ign0ramus: http://pastebin.com/m3365dce0
[03:47] <ralmar> ign0ramus, It turns out I installed the splash screen on april 29th, along with the rest of the kubuntu-desktop package. I guess it changed my default splashcreen and in almost 2 weeks I guess its possible that every time i booted up I walked away and never saw the splash screen..
[03:48] <ign0ramus> ralmar, LOL
[03:48] <yao_ziyuan> i'll first restart kde
[03:48] <ign0ramus> edoceo, is /dev/sr0 your drive?
[03:49] <edoceo> ign0ramus: yep - can see it assigned in dmesg - cleaning some udev rules now - hope that will help
[03:49] <ign0ramus> edoceo, ok, try that first.  post back if that doesn't fix it.
[03:51] <edoceo> have to wait 120m for my drive array in that machine to rebuild too....
[03:52] <ign0ramus> edoceo, ouch.  i will definitely be snoring by then :)
[03:53] <ign0ramus> edoceo, stupid question, but have you created a mount point if you are manually mounting?
[03:54] <edoceo> ign0ramus: yes - mount point created - research points to udev or crappy drive (hope not, it's new!)
[03:55] <ign0ramus> edoceo, sorry for asking, but you never know.  see if udev issues are to blame - you're doing everything rihgt
[03:55] <ign0ramus> *right
[03:55] <edoceo> I've never see anything like this since bugs in 2.1 (a thoussand years ago)
[03:57] <ign0ramus> edoceo, 2.1 of what?
[03:58] <edoceo> of linux
[04:00] <ign0ramus> edoceo, the actual kernel?  that *was* a while ago!
[04:01]  * edoceo goes to watch simpsons while md rebuilds...
[04:02] <rich_> ?how do i find where my wifi driver is locate? in ubuntu hardy
[04:03] <rich_> i used ndisgtk on install so i dont know the name
[04:08] <rich_> dev/dri/card0 is that my wi card driver???
[04:17] <jonnn> how do i list all the rooms?
[04:35] <ner0x> How do i set up apache2 to run cgi scripts?
[04:35] <ner0x> Commands are a bit different on kubuntu.
[04:37] <oblique> awesome
[04:37] <oblique> whats up
[04:38] <oblique> anyone have a nvidia 6150 le that will give me higher resolutions
[04:39] <oblique> er drivers*
[04:45] <zayx> hey can anyone answer a question regarding kwrite?
[04:48] <zayx> quiet room tonight
[04:50] <keyser_soze> zayx: just ask, don't ask to ask
[04:51] <leinadplus> word
[04:51] <leinadplus> still seeing if anyone can guide me to some nvidia drivers
[04:51] <zayx> ok why does kwrite print the first line of text at a smapper size than the rest of the document?
[04:51] <leinadplus> specifically for a ge forvce 6150le
[04:51] <zayx> ouch
[04:51] <leinadplus> eh?
[04:51] <zayx> i think you are stuck digging through archives for that one
[04:52] <nikeboy> anyone know how the edit the panels that are displays in UNR mode in jaunty???
[04:52] <leinadplus> hrm
[04:52] <leinadplus> google?
[04:52] <leinadplus> shit sux
[04:52] <nikeboy> i've managed to remove the notification area (wireless, bluetooth, battery etc) in unr mode... but works fine in classic/desktop mode...
[04:52] <zayx> sorry  smapper=smaller
[04:53] <keyser_soze> zayx: I'm going to guess that that's actually a printing error, not a kwrite error
[04:53] <oblique> ah whack
[04:54] <zayx> sorry by printing im refering to printing on screen
[04:55] <keyser_soze> zayx: that is a messed up problem - which version of kubuntu?
[04:55] <zayx> 4.2.2 and 4.2.3
[04:55] <zayx> but it is kwrite rc1
[04:56] <zayx> the actual font size box is blank until the second line of text is input
[04:56] <keyser_soze> zayx: sorry, I'm still on kde 3.5
[04:56] <keyser_soze> zayx: very strange error
[04:56] <zayx> then it automatically switches to 12
[04:56] <licjuancarlos> spanish?
[04:56] <keyser_soze> zayx: anything in the forums?
[04:56] <licjuancarlos> alguien habla español?
[04:56] <keyser_soze> ubottu: !sp | licjuancarlos
[04:56] <zayx> couldnt find anything through google etc.
[04:56] <keyser_soze> ubottu: sp | licjuancarlos
[04:57] <licjuancarlos> ok
[04:57] <keyser_soze> ubottu: spanish | licjuancarlos
[04:57] <licjuancarlos> gracias
[04:58] <licjuancarlos> muy amable
[04:58] <zayx> im assuming its a bug in kwirt but i havent been able to find anything confirming it.
[04:59] <keyser_soze> zayx: the question is how many other folks are having this problem (if any)
[04:59] <zayx> thats what im trying to find out
[04:59] <zayx> i have the same problem on both my desktop and laptop
[05:01] <adna> weird cant resize window bug. assistance?
[05:01] <oblique> hrm
[05:01] <zayx> quassel really ought to add a right click on name > response option :/
[05:02] <adna> 9.04
[05:02] <zayx> video drivers/compositing?
[05:17] <murtletheturtle> hello
[05:18] <murtletheturtle> Do you think P2P will eventually overpower the tradiational server?
[05:45] <RootRay> hello
[05:45] <RootRay> anyone know how to prevent akonadi from starting up in kde?
[05:45] <murtletheturtle> shell script itRootRay
[05:46] <murtletheturtle> there is a price for free software
[05:46] <murtletheturtle> what is that akon program?
[05:46] <murtletheturtle> what does it do, it might have options in the preferences area
[05:55] <RootRay> hell, i dont know what it is, it's just there and it's annoying
[05:55] <RootRay> takes a lot of memory too
[06:00] <mandingoceo> how do i remove the nvidia restricted drivers from the terminal
[06:00] <murtletheturtle> type, jobs in console
[06:00] <murtletheturtle> see if its there
[06:00] <mandingoceo> nothing happend
[06:01] <mandingoceo> im trying to go back to 180.51 but i can only do it from the term
[06:03] <mandingoceo> i get the client has the version 180.51 but this kernel module has the version 180.11.
[06:04] <mandingoceo> so how do i remove the 180.11 ?
[06:15] <podecoet> Is there a trick to changing a mounted device's icon? I'm able to change the icon for local devices, but not mounted samba shares
[06:21] <RootRay_> hello, anyone using andlinux?
[06:24] <dwidmann> Hmm, someone probably should have informed him of the yes command ...
[06:24] <dwidmann> Wow, I was scrolled up to 3:00 ...  You have work in the morning.
[06:42] <Guest89277> ign0ramus: Hello?
[06:44] <Guest89277> OxDeadC0de: anything new with your system monitor widgets?
[06:45] <Guest55099> :P
[06:52] <Guest89277> Good evening everyone.
[06:57] <Guest89277> Calling it a night.
[07:14] <JohanSJA> how to configure the gtk setting in kubuntu? the font in firefox is too big? i don't mean the webpages but the menu
[07:29] <Project-Emerald> Uh, my deskto widget was accidently closed... the widget that shows files on the desktop
[07:29] <Project-Emerald> and having to go into a folder to get my DESKTOP items is dumb.,, how do I restore it?
[08:00] <Guest17277> hello my laptop monitor has hardly any brightness, and it looks like when u look at an old GBA in poor light
[08:02] <mase_work> Guest17277: is the brightness turned down ?
[08:02] <Guest17277> can anyone help me
[08:02] <Guest17277> nopde
[08:02] <mase_work> so powerdevil has it at full brightness ?
[08:02] <mase_work> what happens if you dim it and then make it lighter again ?
[08:03] <Guest17277> nothing i think the backlight might be broken
[08:04] <robin0800> Guest17277: Does your laptop have brightness buttons?
[08:04] <Guest17277> would my keyboard brightness button work on linux
[08:05] <Guest17277> i  tried it nothing happeneed
[08:05] <faileas> it should
[08:05] <faileas> in theory
[08:05] <Guest17277> u can't see anything when it is booting up either
[08:05] <Guest17277> like the intel logo
[08:07] <Guest17277> this all happened cause the comp shut down unexcpectedly
[08:10] <Guest17277> u know how the old gba screens react to light, thats whats happening with my laptop
[08:10] <Guest17277> i know cause i just shoved it into the sunlight and ic an see things
[08:11] <Guest17277> gota go brekfast
[08:26] <tdn> Kopete keeps crashing on me. How do I install debugsym packages so that I can produce a meaningful trace?
[08:26] <tdn> Kubuntu 9.04.
[08:28] <AustLaw_> is there a remote desktop app installed with kubuntu by default?
[08:39] <tsimpson> tdn: kdenetwork-dbg
[08:47] <Guest46202> hello my laptop monitor is broken,  i have to put the screen in bright light to see anything
[08:47] <Guest46202> can anyone help
[08:50] <Guest46202> it happened when my laptop turned off suddenly
[08:56] <udoeverything> Hello, Kubuntu is freezing in KDE4 when I enable desktop effects on my ATI card. Is there a fix? I tried installing 4.2.3, but it didn't help.
[08:57] <udoeverything> Jaunty
[08:57] <Guest46202> can anyone help?
[08:59] <Guest38558> grr
[09:00] <Guest38558> hello my laptop monitor is broken,  i have to put the screen in bright sunlight to see anything
[09:35] <metellius> suddenly my xorg.conf started working, was there some xorg fix or similar thing released yesterday/today that is known to break stuff? when I get the lowgraphics mode and ask it to show me the errors, it just gives me an empty box, and the Xorg.0.log has NO error (EE) lines! why does it just break like that?
[09:35] <metellius> s/started working/stopped working/
[09:37] <metellius> asking it to start in low-graphics in the dialog just quits and does nothing.
[10:09] <AustLaw> whats with the package manager not loading descriptions and shit?
[10:10] <AustLaw> annoying as fuck
[10:17] <ToreadorVampire> Hey all - trying to configure a network scanner on Kubuntu Jaunty - I had this scanner working just fine on Hardy, but I think I might have forgotten one or more steps to get it working ...
[10:18] <ToreadorVampire> I remember that I need SANE, and I have xsane installed - but now xsane is telling me there are no scanners available ... I seem to be missing some configuration step that tells it to find a network scanner ... any ideas what I'm missing?
[10:26] <ToreadorVampire> Hmm, that wasn't good ... that's only the second time I have ever seen kubuntu kpanic :s
[10:27] <ToreadorVampire> Anyway ... still looking for "what am I missing" to install/configure a network scanner on Jaunty
[10:46] <MarcoPau> hello, since I upgraded to jaunty, mysqld has been failing loading on boot. I can't find any log for mysql. can you guys help me?
[10:59] <AustLaw_> how do I show the pid in krunner?
[11:15] <IronEagle> Hi. Does anyone use networkmanager for mobile broadband connections (kubuntu 9.04)?
[11:16] <robin0800_> IronEag1e: Tried it but it dosn't work for me
[11:18] <robin0800_> IronEag1e: It sees the dongle allows you to configure it but it never connects
[11:19] <IronEag1e> sounds like my problem. i can add a mobile broadband connection but the network manager applet just says "mobile broadband - serial port disconnected"
[11:19] <IronEag1e> the nm debuginfo just states "deactivating device (reason:2)"
[11:21] <AustLaw_> is there a fast way to run a command using the current directory of a dolphin window?
[11:22] <robin0800_> IronEag1e: gnome--ppp works  vwdial works or you can downgrade to the old network manager
[11:23] <IronEag1e> just found http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6893375&postcount=12  - i've a thinkpad t400 too, so it should work. very strange
[11:23] <IronEag1e> going to write him an email
[11:25] <utente> bho
[11:33] <OxDeadC0de> can anyone tell me why I see a bunch of "-- MARK --" in dmesg?
[11:34] <OxDeadC0de> every 20 minutes just about on the dot?
[11:34] <OxDeadC0de> er, /var/logs/messages sorry
[11:38] <Guest91424> Hey guys sorry for being so noobie, but I tried to install a theme on kubuntu and all that has happened is my taskbar has gone black. I have googled it but can't find any answers!
[11:39] <Guest91424> (to change the theme i right clicked on the desktop and used appearance settings, i have kubuntu 9.04)
[11:39] <Guest91424> it's a clean install
[11:39] <Guest91424> the theme was glassified that i was tryin gto install
[11:41] <Guest91424> neone?
[11:47] <robin0800_> Guest91424: You must have settings/ appearence/ desk top effects turned on
[11:48] <Guest91424> robin0800_ how do i do that? through the kickoff application launcher?
[11:49] <Guest91424> found it...
[11:50] <victor___> hi
[11:51] <robin0800_> Guest91424: Sorry not appearence its desktop you want
[11:55] <Wazmyn> I upgraded to 9.04 over the weekend, and i have been plagued with filessytem errors had been having to fsck everytime I reboot - is this common?
[11:55] <Guest91424> robin0800_ ok i enabled desktop effects... right clicking over the desktop and changing the theme still doesn't work - just makes the taskbar black
[11:55] <vistakiller> no
[11:56] <vistakiller> normaly you must have one check and not every time
[11:57] <robin0800_> Guest91424: What colour is your backdrop
[11:57] <Guest91424> robing0800_ urm i have a picture for my backdrop - that didn't change
[11:59] <Steve^> Using 9.04, does khotkeys work for anyone?
[11:59] <Steve^> None of the shortcuts in that section of global shortcuts works for me
[11:59] <Steve^> Including open terminal
[12:00] <Guest91424> it just seems a bit broken if the plazma workspace doesn't work our of the box.... you think i have hardware problems?
[12:00] <Guest91424> ever since trying to install the theme 10 mins ago things have started to go a bit wierd
[12:01] <robin0800_> Guest91424: Well it works for me out of the box  even default theme  check xorg log pate bin if you like
[12:02] <Guest91424> robin0800_ hmmm i wonder why it's all gone skitzo then? you think it's something to do with my hardware? all i've done other than try to change the theme is install synaptic and firefox
[12:02] <Guest91424> or something wrong with my installation?
[12:02] <stephan_> gh
[12:02] <Guest91424> oh i have let amarok install updates as well
[12:02] <Guest91424> and installed the updates to kubuntu
[12:04] <Guest91424> robin0800_ (thanks for helping btw)
[12:04] <robin0800_> Guest91424: Check the Xorg log
[12:04] <Guest91424> how might i do that?
[12:05] <IronEag1e> wtf? i cant use kde anymore.
[12:06] <robin0800_> Guest91424: systems/ksystems log viewer
[12:07] <Guest91424> robin0800_ ok i'm there... what am i looking for?
[12:09] <Guest91424> robin0800_ could it be a problem with my ATI radeon 9200?
[12:09] <robin0800_> Guest91424: Pastebin Your xorg
[12:11] <Wazmyn> I upgraded to 9.04 over the weekend, and i have been plagued with filessytem errors had been having to fsck everytime I reboot - is this common?
[12:11] <Guest91424> robin0800_ http://pastebin.com/d1b942e97
[12:11] <Guest91424> (if i've done it correctly)
[12:12] <Wazmyn> This is driving me friggin' crazy. I cna't use my computer for more than a few minutes before file system errors start making everything screw up
[12:13] <robin0800_> Guest91424: Close thats the sys log I think please pastebin the Xorg log
[12:13] <Guest91424> ooooo
[12:13] <Guest91424> sorry
[12:14] <Guest91424> robin0800_ you're right http://pastebin.com/d70d19008
[12:20] <robin0800_> Guest91424: Pageflip, Debhmoves and backing stor are all disabled
[12:21] <Guest91424> robin0800_ thanks for taking the time to help me... i have no idea what you just said. It might as well have been ($*(£<PHONE_NUMBER>7487*&*&*&*& are all disabled :)
[12:22] <Guest91424> robin0800_ looking online it seems lots of people had problems with the ati radeon graphics cards.... you think i need the flgts driver from ati?
[12:22] <robin0800_> Guest91424: These are lines in your xorg log that state they are disabled
[12:22] <Guest91424> robin0800_ oh ok
[12:22] <Guest91424> robin0800_ do i need to enable them?
[12:23] <robin0800_> Guest91424: Try it it may not work
[12:23] <Guest91424> robin0800_ i'll give it a go .. .thanks
[12:23] <Guest91424> robin0800_ you think installing the ati drivers might help?
[12:23] <AustLaw> how do I make dolphin display hidden files?
[12:24] <AustLaw> .blah
[12:24] <ilkin_> what about office 2007?
[12:24] <ilkin_> i lost internet connection sorry
[12:24] <IronEag1e> hm. what do i have to move/delete to resett all kde settings for a given user? .kde, .kderc... and what else?
[12:24] <robin0800_> Gu est91424: They don.t start the X server on my laptop
[12:25] <tsimpson> AustLaw: View -> Show hidden files
[12:25] <AustLaw> ah :P
[12:26] <AustLaw> also, is there a fast/easy way to open a terminal in current dolphin directory?
[12:27] <tsimpson> seems not
[12:27] <tsimpson> only on right-click of a directory, but not the current directory
[12:28] <AustLaw> that should be like a big red button :X
[12:37] <AustLaw> anyway to get the terminal panel in dolphin to display side by side, rather than on bottom?
[12:38] <ilkin_> it seem no any way to open docx in kubuntu? ha
[12:43] <khear> will KDE 4.2.3 eventually be in updates or backports for jaunty, or will it just be available in the separate PPA?
[12:45] <AustLaw> it would be like 100000000x better if I could put the terminal on the right of the dolphin window D:
[12:46] <tty17> how many zeros was that, AustLaw?
[12:46] <AustLaw> 0
[12:46] <tty17> O.o
[12:47] <AustLaw> I want a terminal file browser attached :X
[12:48] <AustLaw> and when I single click on something, it pastes it in the terminal, that would be sexy
[12:48] <tty17> that would be nice
[12:48] <tty17> you should write it
[12:48] <tty17> oh also
[12:49] <tty17> is the file open dialog box in kde 4.2 pretty much unchanged from 3.5 or have I broken sommething?
[12:50] <AustLaw> yeah, I have no idea, I downloaded linux 2 days ago :o
[12:50] <tty17> hehe ok
[12:52] <AustLaw> there a way to edit the colors of plasma themes?
[12:52] <AustLaw> a trivial way that is
[13:00] <salah> salut
[13:14] <Guest14825> Hey guys! I'm having some real trouble with my attempt to migrate to linux... I have tried all three *buntu's and have been trying to make my ati radeon 9200 work as well as in windows but to no avail. Anyone got any thoughts?
[13:15] <Guest14825> youtube is slow, i can't use desktop themes succesfully, and 3d games are painfully slow :(
[13:15] <jussi01> Guest14825: try the LTS - 8.04
[13:15] <jussi01> LTS means long term support, so you should be fine
[13:15] <Guest14825> jussi01 LTS - 8.04? does that mean a different version of buntu?
[13:16] <jussi01> yeah, it means the 8.04 version, which is supported longer term
[13:16] <Guest14825> oh ok so i reinstall 8.04 buntu?
[13:17] <Guest14825> and it should magically work? please let this be true jussi01 :)
[13:18] <jussi01> Guest14825: nothings magical - I have a 9250 and 8.04 worked very well with it... thats all
[13:18] <Guest14825> jussi01 but my linux world may suddenly start working? beautiful!
[13:18] <Guest14825> i'll give it a go
[13:18] <Guest14825> thanks
[13:19] <Guest14825> now is the best way to create a new live-usb or can i do it from inside 9.04?
[13:20] <Guest14825> jussi01 when i'm in 8.04 is it better to use the default drivers or install the propriatary to get it working properly?
[13:21] <ionut_> salz
[13:22] <jussi01> Guest14825: the 9200 doesnt use the proprietry driver
[13:22] <ionut_> care ma ajuta shi pe mine plz :((
[13:22] <Guest14825> jussi01 thanks so much for helping! i've been trying to work that out for 3 days
[13:23] <jussi01> Guest14825: you could have just read it on the niary driver page ;)
[13:23] <jussi01> binary*
[13:23] <Guest14825> jussy01 i've been reading it and rereading it over and over. i think i've lost the capacity to understand english :)
[13:24] <jussi01> !tab | Guest14825
[13:25] <Guest14825> jussi01: thanks
[13:25] <jussi01> Guest14825: from the binary driver page:
[13:25] <jussi01> If you have an ATI Radeon 9500 or newer (including thx X-series, such as x300, x1600, etc, an Xpress 200, or a Radeon HD card), then you can use the restricted fglrx drivers: BinaryDriverHowto/ATI.
[13:25] <Guest14825> jussi01: look at me l33t hacker skillz
[13:26] <Guest14825> jussi01:  and so 9.04 doesn't gel too well with the old radeon 9200 cards?
[13:26] <Guest14825> jussi01: it's all new and stuff?
[13:26] <jussi01> Guest14825: Im not sure, but I know there was a large change to xorg, and I have it working well on 8.04.
[13:27] <Guest14825> jussi01:  yeah that's probably it
[13:27] <Guest14825> jussi01:  that fits in with all the reading i've been doing
[13:27] <Guest14825> jussi01:  thanks for helping - cos i love linux i just want it to work!
[13:27] <Guest14825> jussi01: and i was at my witts end :P
[13:29] <NetersLandreau> i too am having problems with kubuntu 9.04 and xorg and the intel 945GM card.. i cannot get the screen to display properly
[13:29] <jussi01> NetersLandreau: have you read the release notes?
[13:29] <NetersLandreau> i had no problems with kubuntu 8.10
[13:30] <jussi01> !releasenotes | NetersLandreau
[13:36] <NetersLandreau> thx jussi01, that is giving me some options
[13:37] <jussi01> NetersLandreau: yw
[13:39] <tdn> Why can't I use ½ as a short cut for yakuake?
[13:43] <pushrax> hi all.  Has anyone else got 4 linux kernel related updated blocked in kpackage updater?
[13:46] <vbgunz> I swear I dont ever remember saving a file in vim sometimes taking so long... what happened? I notice this happens a lot :(
[13:54] <tdn> Why does Konqueror not understand SSL certificates, when I go to http://sikkerhed.org/files/certificates/ca.sikkerhed.org.crt, it asks me what to do with the file. Why not just ask me if I trust the certificate? Or open it in a crypto manager of some sort?
[13:55] <tdn> I installed SMPlayer and first time I started it, I got this error: The version of MPlayer (1.0rc2) installed on your system is obsolete. SMPlayer can't work well with it: some options won't work, subtitle selection may fail... Please, update your MPlayer.
[13:55] <tdn> If SMPlayer needs specific version of mplayer, why was this not installed also?
[13:58] <sony> hey  guys anyone know how i increase my display resolution in xforcevesa mode
[14:00] <santiago> no idea! see xorg.cong in /etc/X11/
[14:06] <alonea> what are some good messenger programs besides pidgin? I can't get pidgin to work anymore.
[14:06] <tdn> alonea, Kopete.
[14:07] <tdn> alonea, sudo apt-get install kopete
[14:07] <alonea> I think I tried that one once and could not figure it out. but I will look again.
[14:10] <alonea> ok, I am lost, I think it might be a problem with my system. I can't connect to any messenger service still.
[14:10] <alonea> tried msn, gchat, yahoo, aim...all of them I get connection refused.
[14:11] <tdn> alonea, must be a network problem.
[14:12] <alonea> tdn: well, they work fine in windows,  but the last month on linux I can't usually get into any of them on any internet connection. home, school, etc.
[14:16] <alonea> tdn: I think I just figured it out...I tried an ip blocker and I think its still running even though I told it to never turn on. I even looked under processes and it wasn't listed anymore, but yet it seemed to still be there???? bah...
[14:29] <marco_> hi guys
[14:29] <marco_> I need some help
[14:29] <i3ooi3oo> ok..
[14:30] <marco_> I have just upgraded to Jauty and I cannot connect to msn with Kopete
[14:30] <marco_> anyone can help?
[14:30] <i3ooi3oo> what error are you getting ?
[14:30] <alonea> speaking of kopete, how I get the annoying pop up box from "Notification from Kopete Messenger" to stop
[14:31] <marco_> well
[14:31] <marco_> i3ooi3oo : it just keeps on sayng "connetcting"
[14:31] <marco_> wait
[14:31] <marco_> Is tart it from console
[14:31] <alonea> its hard when I am trying to program and it takes over my screen
[14:33] <marco_> i3ooi3oo it says "MSN: Error: basic_string::_S_construct NULL not valid
[14:33] <marco_> "
[14:34] <marco_> what should I do guys
[14:36] <nado_> hi
[14:37] <marco_> anyone can help?
[14:37] <nado_> is there a way to get amarok 1.4? i can't stand the new version that comes out of the box nowadays
[14:37] <vbgunz> has kubuntu changed vims default "^w =" command? it used to evenly spread my windows across the screen. now it no longer affects any of the windows widths :/
[14:37] <Dragnslcr> alonea- Kopete uses the same notification system as every other KDE4 program. You can change them in Settings -> Configure Notifications
[14:38] <alonea> Dragnslcr: I see where I got confused, I thought the check boxes were for all notifications, not just one...had to got through every one and turn it off. Never used kopete before. so I was a little bit lost
[14:39] <robin____> nado_: I think you have to uninstall amarok, download the .deb for 1.4 and install the deb file
[14:39] <alonea> Dragnslcr: and the notifications settings were only in the main box and I kept looking under configure and the other settings places from the chat boxes
[14:39] <GRiD> hi, is it possible to setup a static ip for my wifi link? having trouble.
[14:39] <marco_> help anybody_
[14:39] <Dragnslcr> The notification system tray was supposed to be improved for KDE 4.2, but obviously it isn't done yet
[14:40] <Dragnslcr> The stacked notifications definitely get annoying when they fill the entire side of the screen. It was supposed to be fixed to be a single small window with a Next button
[14:40] <nado_> robin____: I would, but i can't find a source for that...
[14:41] <nado_> ah, found something, I'm gonna try that out now...
[14:42] <desafinado> jumpy touchpad :(
[14:45] <marco_> thx for help guys.-....
[14:47] <tdn> I get annoying pop up notifications from Kopete each time a contact goes online/away/etc. How do I disable these useless notifications from Kopete?
[14:52] <robin____> tdn: Settings->configure notifications and uncheck "contact goes online"
[14:53] <tdn> robin____, under Configure?
[14:55] <robin____> tdn: settings->"configure notification"
[14:55] <tdn> robin____, thanks.
[15:05] <contrast> !aptfix
[15:17] <chris__> hey all so i got a question i was reading some stuff that has said dual monitor support setup stuff got left out of kubuntu?
[15:17] <chris__> i am looking to disable mirroring
[15:24] <mariuz> kde 4.2.3 for kubuntu ? anyone
[15:28] <robin____> mariuz: there is a ppa for 9.04 with kde4.2.3
[15:29] <mariuz> ok thanks
[15:30] <robin____> mariuz: see http://www.kubuntu.org/ for more information
[15:31] <mariuz> got it , it wasn't there when the kde release was out http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.3
[15:39] <crichardso> robin____ where is the pgp key for adding that to pkg manager
[15:39] <afeijo> my kubuntu 9 dont play dvd disks :( I try with mplayer, kaffeine and dragon
[15:40] <afeijo> which other prog can I test?
[15:40] <robin____> afeijo: make sure you have both kubuntu restrited extras and the meditbuntu packages installed
[15:41] <afeijo> I dint have the restricted, I'm installing now
[15:42] <afeijo> robin____: medibuntu.org?
[15:42] <afeijo> kubuntu 9.04 = dapper?
[15:42] <Pici> !9.04
[15:42] <Pici> !6.06
[15:43] <afeijo> ok
[15:43] <afeijo> jaunty ;)
[15:48] <robin____> crichardso:you mean the kde4.2.3 ppa?
[15:52] <tdn> In Settings -> Appearance -> Windows. How do I edit the available themes? For example Ozone?
[15:53] <afeijo> when I start my machine, numlock is on but the numeric keys isnt, I have to press numlock key, the light remains on, than the numeric keys works :p
[15:53] <afeijo> O looked at System Settings to see if there any option, I didnt find
[15:54] <robin____> tdn:system settings->advanced->desktop the details
[15:54] <robin____> tdn:desktop theme*
[15:56] <tdn> robin____, ok.
[15:56] <robin____> afeijo:system settings->keyboard & mouse->numlock on kde startup
[15:57] <tdn> robin____, I cannot see that I can edit anything there.
[15:58] <robin____> tdn: if everything is correct you can chose a theme for diferent item
[15:58] <somekool> anyone saw his systray icon disapearing since the upgrade to 9.04 jaunty ?
[15:58] <robin____> tdn:but I think if you really wan't to edit the theme's you will have to create a new theme
[15:59] <tdn> robin____, hmm... Ok. Really? Even Windows from back to 98 or so lets me edit themes myself. :(
[15:59] <robin____> somekool: did you upgraded to kde 4.2 before, with the upgrade to 4.2 some plasma widget got changes, try if you can readd the systray.
[16:00] <robin____> but I've got to go now
[16:00] <robin____> bye
[16:00] <tdn> robin____, is there no tool for editing these files?
[16:00] <somekool> i was already using 4.2.2 under 8.10
[16:01] <chris__> is there a bug in kubuntu with dual monitors? i cant seem to get it to stop mirroring
[16:01] <somekool> i tried to remove and readd the systray
[16:09] <ChrisTwitty> can I install kubuntu onto this computer     http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/quickPath.do?quickPathEntry=2179XX7
[16:11] <kennethaar> Hi. Is Copy to RAM possible when Kubuntu is installed on the hardisk?
[16:13] <kennethaar> Anyone else gotten TimeVault to work?
[16:14] <nameiner> ChrisTwitty: your link doesn't show an actual computer. Just post what you got/will get
[16:18] <ChrisTwitty> Original description: Intel Pentium III 800MHz (256KB), 128MB, 20GB IDE HDD, Desktop (2x2), SiS 630 2X AGP, CD-RW, 56K modem, SiS 10/100 integrated Ethernet, Windows Me
[16:18] <ChrisTwitty> NetVista all-in-one
[16:18] <ChrisTwitty> IBM
[16:20] <kennethaar> !copy2ram
[16:21] <kennethaar> ram
[16:21] <kennethaar> !ram
[16:25] <sony> guys whats new in kubuntu 9.04
[16:30] <nameiner> ChrisTwitty: I'm not sure about the graphics adapter but else I see no problem with that configuration
[16:30] <nameiner> ChrisTwitty:  you can always try with the Desktop CD if everything works
[16:31] <ChrisTwitty> thats what I'm going to try now
[16:31] <ChrisTwitty> thanks for your help
[16:31] <nameiner> if the CPU is to slow for the KDE desktop you can try Xubuntu
[16:33] <eurythmia> I added to entries to my $PATH in ~/.bashrc, specifically: "export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.progs/bin:$HOME/.bin"  ... when I go to run the programs located in those directories from bash, all is good, but when I use the kde run dialog (accessed via alt+F2) those directories are not part of the searched path. How might I remedy this? I'm using Jaunty with kde 4
[16:33] <eurythmia> nameiner, lxde is also nice, and quite snappy.
[16:37] <nameiner> eurythmia: just checking out screen shots, it looks very good, gotta try it out
[16:38] <crichardso> bummer i was hoping with the kde updates my dual monitors would be fixed :<
[16:38] <afeijo> can I use apt-get to install mediabuntu?
[16:42] <edoceo> I've tried to create adevice at /dev/md0 to be my raid1 device - when I reboot my machine it comes back as /dev/md_d0 with only one physical device attached
[16:42] <edoceo> What happended to md?
[16:45] <afeijo> my apt-get dont install w32codecs, it say that I need to install it thru other package??
[16:46] <afeijo> hey, dvd working!! libdvdcss2 solved ;)
[16:50] <sharkk> hi, i have installed kubuntu 9.04 and the flash plugin didn't work well, it doesn't play the audio... someone know how to solve it?
[16:51] <sony> guys what are the chances of a graphic card frying itself in a laptop
[16:53] <Dragnslcr> sony- definitely greater than zero
[16:54] <sony> thats some reply man well mine did that today
[16:57] <Amarok__> synaptic or adept the better package manager ?
[16:57] <chaadaev> synaptic in my opinion
[16:59] <Dragnslcr> KDE4 version of Adept isn't all that good. KPackageKit is the default in 9.04, and it works well enough
[17:00] <Amarok__> and hows kpackage kit compared to synaptic coz i havent tried 9.04
[17:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[17:00] <Amarok__> hi blueskaj
[17:01] <chaadaev> hi
[17:01] <BluesKaj> hi Amarok__
[17:02] <Dragnslcr> I haven't used Synaptic. I try to be a good little KDE user and stick with KDE programs as much as possible
[17:03] <Dragnslcr> KPackageKit can install packages, and the search isn't broken like it is in Adept, so it works well enough for me
[17:03] <BluesKaj> synaptic is very helpful with dependencies and fixing broken apps , if adept culd do the same it would be more helpful
[17:04] <Amarok__> and what about the new irc client in 9.04
[17:05] <Dragnslcr> Quassel? It works
[17:05] <Dragnslcr> Has its fair share of relatively minor annoyances, but it does its job
[17:05] <crichardso> ya i am using it
[17:05] <Amarok__> well to be honest i really liked konversation
[17:05] <crichardso> it is alright i still like my xchat better though
[17:06] <crichardso> only major annoyance i have found in the 9.04 kde is dual monitor gui is missing things from what i can tell
[17:07] <crichardso> so i cant use the gui to create extended desktop ect
[17:07] <Amarok__> hmm..
[17:07] <eurythmia> crichardso, you could try arandr or grandr
[17:08] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: kpackage kit is broken on my setup , but adept works great :)
[17:08] <Dragnslcr> Broken how?
[17:09] <eurythmia> crichardso, in System Settings->Display there's an entry there for each DVI out I have ... you *should* be able to extended desktop using that (I don't have another monitor to test with though.
[17:09] <eurythmia> )
[17:09] <BluesKaj> 9.04 is not working out for me ...toom any things wrong , bash scipts don't see apps in /usr/bin
[17:10] <BluesKaj> google earth crashes
[17:10] <Amarok__> i was just cheking 9.04 screenshots anyone elese thinks the new panel looks a lot like vista taskbar
[17:10] <Dragnslcr> Bash not seeing stuff in /usr/bin is probably a PATH issue
[17:11] <crichardso> eurythmia: u mean krandrtray?
[17:11] <tty17> anybody know why okular is displaying pdfs properly apart from a ~100x100px square in the top right
[17:11] <tty17> which it moves up by about 50px
[17:11] <erick> hello
[17:12] <Amarok__> hello erick
[17:12] <erick> how are you
[17:12] <Amarok__> well guys i gotta go got a big day coming up tommorow
[17:12] <Amarok__> i am good erick
[17:13] <eurythmia> crichardso, no, I don't. I mean using the "replacement for kcontrol"
[17:13] <Amarok__> but i have to leave
[17:13] <erick> nice and where are you coming from
[17:14] <crichardso> eurythmia: that just opens up the krandrtray thing
[17:15] <erick> hey guys, does anybody come from Costa rica
[17:15] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: yes it's a path issue but why did it happen ...makes no sense to me
[17:16] <eurythmia> crichardso, does it look like this: http://imagebin.ca/view/NNY3EaH.html ?
[17:16] <crichardso> eurythmia: http://yfrog.com/7asnapshot1np
[17:17] <eurythmia> ah, yes.
[17:17] <Dragnslcr> Bleh, Flash plugin is incredibly broken
[17:17] <crichardso> eurythmia: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?action=printpage;topic=3102967.0
[17:18] <eurythmia> crichardso, k. Sorry then, I can't help anymore at the moment (not while I'm at work, anyway)
[17:18] <crichardso> no worries mate i can live with it for a while
[17:19] <erick> hola maco
[17:33] <patrick__> f
[17:33] <patrick__> what is this?
[17:34] <genii> patrick__: This is the Kubuntu linux support channel
[17:34] <patrick__> oh
[17:34] <patrick__> i see
[17:35] <patrick__>  got to run!
[17:38] <skovierovci> Hi all, I have some trobles with adding a new disc to fstab: I have added a new line where is written: /dev/sdb1 /home/somebody defaults 1 1, and everybody can read this disc but only root can change/add files. Does anybody know why?
[17:42] <genii> skovierovci: the /home directory is where everyone's home directories are housed, and is a system directory, owned by root.  /home/somename is a specific user's dir and should be owned by them. Likely you would want to mount sdb1 to /home   and not /home/somename
[17:42] <tobi_> Hey Folks ... I configured my eth0 with pppoeconf. Normally it should connect automaticaly while booting, but it doesn't. To get online access I have to run "sudo poff dsl-provider" and after that "sudo pon dsl-provider" ... what's wrong?
[17:44] <toster> тест
[17:56] <yaa_> could anybody help me
[17:57] <yaa_> sound disappeared
[17:57] <yaa_> http://pastebin.com/f7ce91c42
[17:57] <yaa_> cat user.log  | grep -i audio | pastebinit
[17:57] <FFForever> Hello people
[17:58] <usuario_> hhh
[17:58] <FFForever> i installed kubuntu-desktop but i don't have knetwork manager (don't know why....), and i have no way to configure my wifi..., i installed knetworkmanager but it refuses to connect me to my network =\
[17:59] <jussi01> FFForever: on 9.04?
[18:00] <FFForever> yeah
[18:00] <chaadaev> FFForever:
[18:00] <chaadaev> try wicd
[18:01] <jussi01> FFForever: and you still have ubuntu as a base?
[18:01] <xjjk> FFForever: try plasma-widget-network-manager (I think that's what it'scalled
[18:01] <xjjk> knetworkmanager is there, but deprecated... I'm not sure whether it works
[18:01] <xjjk> the plasma applet is the new way that's getting all the development and support
[18:02] <jussi01> FFForever: you can also use gnomes one if its still installed - press alt+f2 and type: nm-applet
[18:03] <SpamInaCan> a warning it would kill my gnome networkmanager would have been nice!!!
[18:04] <dkkong> Every since I've installed Intrepid, I've got a 0hz refresh rate that can't be changed. What gives?
[18:08] <dcx> Hi
[18:08] <toster_> dkkong, set modeline in xorg.conf
[18:09] <dcx> Anyone, I can't hear anysound from my internet browsers
[18:10] <FFForever> how do i make it use gtk to display gnome apps and not qt?
[18:13] <dcx_> Hi
[18:13] <FFForever> Hi
[18:14] <dcx_> I have a question
[18:15] <dcx> I don't know why I can hear everysound, but those that come out of my internet browser.
[18:15] <dcx> I have two sound cards on my computer, One is integrated on my motherboard, and I don't use it.
[18:16] <dcx> How can I unistall it? Or at least, set my other card as the default?
[18:17] <FFForever> very carefully?
[18:17] <FFForever> you can unsolder the integrated one but i don't think that will help you to much :D
[18:18] <toster_> dcx, u can disable it in BIOS
[18:18] <dcx> :) I couldn't find the option.
[18:19] <toster_> tell me motherboard model name
[18:20] <toster_> i'll try 2 find, or u can ask google :)
[18:21] <dcx> Ok
[18:21] <dcx> I got it
[18:21] <dcx> ;)
[18:22] <dcx> Thank you so much!!!
[18:22] <dcx> cat /proc/asound/modules
[18:24] <toster_> :D
[18:39] <shaihu> hello, i'm stuck with nvidia drivers
[18:40] <shaihu> can somebody give me some advice
[18:45] <grog> how am i supposed to know which device under /dev is the cdrom ?
[18:46] <grog> if media players make the end user find the device, how am i suppose to know which device is it ?
[18:48] <grog> dmesg | grep dvd
[18:52] <grog> im letting an upgrade to jaunty
[18:52] <grog> i hope the upgrade doesent screw everything up.
[19:03] <mmo|> Anyone else having problems with bluetooth in 9.04? I have tried connecting two phones (to use as remote) but none of them can be seen by kubuntu...
[19:11] <RizR> can't fullscreen youtube videos. full screen just shows slightly larger than original vid with rest of screen blank. (nvidia+dual-head+nonfree_flash)
[19:14] <powerlink> salut tout le monde!!
[19:15] <giorgio> hi
[19:15] <powerlink> h
[19:16] <powerlink> hi
[19:16] <hbbk> hi
[19:17] <hbbk> a question about jaunty and kaffeine : how to disable screensaver when playing videos with kaffeine ?
[19:22] <kramersmachine> opened
[19:29] <tjingboem> i have a home partition formatted in ext3 and i want to keep the data
[19:29] <tjingboem> can i assign ext4 to that partition when i want to install Kubuntu?
[19:30] <tjingboem> with the option "no formatting"?
[19:32] <grog> why is the laptop battery going down even when plugged in ?
[19:32] <ubuntu_> ?
[19:32] <grog> why is the laptop battery going down even when plugged in !!!!!!!! im running out of battery.
[19:36] <Dragnslcr> tjingboem- I believe you can use the ext4 driver for an ext3 partition and get some of the benefits of ext4, but I don't know of a way to convert an ext3 partition to ext4 without reformatting it
[19:38] <grog> why does the battery icon at the tray say "battery not present"  WHEN IT IS !!!!
[19:44] <tjingboem> Dragnslcr, i better use ext2 too then? I do see another way to perserve my home...
[19:49] <tjingboem> what option should i choose for my home partition (ext3) yo remain untouched but to be the home for kubuntu 9.04?
[19:53] <khear> will KDE 4.2.3 eventually be in updates or backports for jaunty, or will it just be available in the separate PPA?
[19:59] <afeijo> anyone have a itouch?
[20:00] <jussi01> afeijo: ipod touch?
[20:00] <afeijo> yes
[20:02] <afeijo> jussi01: what kubuntu app can I use to manage the musics and stuff?
[20:02] <jussi01> !ipod-touch
[20:04] <afeijo> thanks :)
[20:04] <jussi01> :)
[20:10] <afeijo> my ipod touch just arrived, I have to plug it in usb and leave charging until I can use it? ahhh :(
[20:26] <tis_me> does anyone know if /var/log/btmp should have permissions 664 or 660?
[20:27] <FFForever> anyone know if 7.04 used alsa or pulse audio?
[20:28] <tobi> I cannot change etc/network/interfaces. What rights do I need for that? sudo, operator?
[20:29] <kamil> hey, i have a question
[20:30] <kamil> how i must configure SAMBA to work with windows xp?
[20:30] <kamil> i mean ptinter and discs from linux running in workgroup in windows xp
[20:33] <carpii> man smbclient
[20:33] <carpii> also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[20:34] <merlin37> i am seeing that 9.04 is still a little buggy has anyone else seen this
[20:34] <carpii> yes
[20:36] <tis_me> tobi: simply, yes. To be sure you can edit the file, do so as root (sudo su -)
[20:37] <tobi> tis_me: I will try, merci!
[20:37] <jason_froebe> on kde 4.2 (kubuntu 9.04), looking for a way to lock the screen but don't blank the screen or start a screensaver. anyone know how?
[20:37] <tis_me> I tried 9.04, there were still too many broken issues, I reinstalled 8.04, it will be supported longer anyways
[20:38] <yamishi> has anyone used the webmin?
[20:38] <hbbk> again question about jaunty and kaffeine : how to disable screensaver when playing videos with kaffeine ?
[20:38] <merlin37> ok i am having problems with my 8.14 linux image 2.6.27-7 generic 22mb it wont update says cant make backup
[20:39] <tis_me> jason_froebe: you want nobody to be able to change things but still see what you're working on?
[20:40] <froggles> hiya
[20:40] <valued_customer> I've just got a new machine and dropped my Kubuntu drive into it. How do I set the proper resolution?
[20:40] <valued_customer> The current resolution is so low I can't even log into a session - the <OK> button is off the screen, so it can't be selected.
[20:41] <jason_froebe> tis_me - yup, it is just to be a display - monitoring of servers and such
[20:41] <froggles> im just upgraded to 9.04  i installed plamoids Network Manager.  how is it that Backtrack 3 can work with my atheros wifi card and connet to my router, but kubuntu cant.
[20:41] <tis_me> hbbk: DSMP suspend has got to be somewhere in kaffine's config, sorry I can't help more use mplayer which is AWESOME.
[20:42] <froggles> 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[20:42] <merlin37> ok i am having problems with my 8.14 linux image 2.6.27-7 generic 22mb it wont update says cant make backup
[20:42] <froggles> thast lspci
[20:42] <froggles> merlin37: what's it
[20:43] <merlin37> its a kernel update
[20:43] <froggles> mabey you dont have permissions.   are you updating as root ?
[20:43] <eurythmia> in osx you can have widgets show up when you move your mouse to some corner of the screen, is there a way to do this with plasmoids? (sorry, pretty new to kde4)
[20:43] <merlin37> it does not need root it says
[20:44] <merlin37> let me run it again and i will copy to you
[20:44] <tis_me> valued: in /etc/X11/, mv xorg.conf xorg.conf~  # system will make new xorg.conf from hardware explore or just figure it out on the fly (8 times out of 10) :)
[20:45] <froggles> why is it that backtrack 3 can see wlan0 but kubuntu cant ?
[20:45] <froggles> not under ifconfig
[20:45] <valued_customer> I tried running the recovery tool, but it didn't set it right. I'm currently running the Ubuntu live CD - can I save the xorg.conf from there?
[20:46] <valued_customer> The problem is it's only setting a virtual resolution - it needs to set the screen frequency as well, but I don't know where that's set.
[20:46] <tis_me> jason: some KISS solutions come to mind, unplug the mouse & KB and take them with you:)
[20:46] <tis_me> but there has got to be another way
[20:47] <valued_customer> That is, by default Kubunut seems to set the frequency to 60, but it needs to be 70 or 75.
[20:47] <froggles> what package is the ath5k driver ?
[20:47] <merlin37> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb: unable to make backup link of `./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic' before installing new version
[20:47] <tis_me> It depends if you're running console or X windows
[20:47] <merlin37> how do i fix this
[20:49] <powerlink> hi all
[20:49] <tis_me> console: stop gpm, and have a daemon capture all keycodes until a pasword is entered
[20:49] <merlin37> how do i fix this: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb: unable to make backup link of `./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic' before installing new version
[20:50] <mfrank> !lista
[20:50] <tis_me> X: some input blocking program, check google and freshmeat
[20:51] <tis_me> merlin: check /boot partition size - have you run out of space?
[20:51] <merlin37> no i have not
[20:52] <tis_me> then check boot permissions
[20:52] <merlin37> ok i will check
[20:52] <merlin37> brb
[20:52] <powerlink> can somebody explane me (in french) how to uninstal the default graphics driver and instal my nvidia 9600gs driver?
[20:53] <tis_me> froggles: ath5k is in the kernel from 2.6.27(I think), otherwise you need to get then tar from madwifi and make the modules yourself
[20:53] <tis_me> I do for my 2.4.24 kernel
[20:54] <froggles> i am using 2.6.27
[20:54] <froggles> tis_me: look what i found http://nuclear-imaging.info/site_content/2009/01/30/atheros-5007eg-now-works-in-jaunty-jackalope/
[20:55] <froggles> that plus plasmoids Network Manager
[20:55] <powerlink> can somebody explane me (in french) how to uninstal the default graphics driver and instal my nvidia 9600gs driver?
[20:59] <tis_me> froggles: You may have the same hardware as me (AR2425)
[21:00] <tis_me> did installing the mentioned package, linux-backports-modules-jaunty update the driver for you?
[21:00] <patrick__> ntyutuitu6ti8yr5e5768
[21:00] <zmitya> hi all
[21:00] <patrick__> burrrrb
[21:00] <zmitya> I just installed a fresh jaunty
[21:00] <patrick__> jiiiki
[21:00] <patrick__> jj
[21:00] <zmitya> I can't create a panel in my right side of my screen :(
[21:01] <patrick__> parkhtt
[21:01] <patrick__> ppphht
[21:01] <zmitya> just can't drag&drop here :(
[21:01] <patrick__> ddhrt
[21:01] <patrick__> ijjh
[21:01] <patrick__> sibbbuf
[21:02] <patrick__> what is this?
[21:03] <patrick__> g76ri7ydsewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwyu7tr5yulk
[21:04] <patrick__> rftyu7iolkmjhgtfretyuilo,kmhbbbgvfdfrgtyuikljhbvgdsdgjkl
[21:04] <patrick__> hyutr
[21:04] <patrick__> 'rgthykilo;p
[21:04] <david_hh> LOAD"*",8,1
[21:04] <david_hh> RUN
[21:04] <patrick__> what are your problems??
[21:05] <patrick__> hello?
[21:05] <patrick__> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnhnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnjnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnjnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[21:05] <patrick__> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnjnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnjnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnjnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[21:10] <david_hh>          (__)
[21:10] <david_hh>          (oo)
[21:10] <david_hh>   /-------\/
[21:14] <deekay_> hi guys... well i got a problem
[21:14] <deekay_> i know that in 8.10 there was an option to edit the grub with a gui
[21:14] <deekay_> and now on 9.04 this options does not exist
[21:14] <deekay_> is there a packet i can install ?
[21:14] <ChrisTwitty> how long does it take for the install to configure the openssh=client
[21:17] <Brian__> hey all
[21:17] <gradecke> hello everybody :) just a quick question to be sure - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 mentions the alternate cd as a possibility to upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 directly - does the dvd work as well? or are there any differences?
[21:17] <Brian__> my partition table has changed, and now im not booting.  i chrooted into my kubuntu install. and did an mdadm --examine --scan > /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf, but i still cant boot.
[21:17] <Brian__> i think i need a new initrd, right?
[21:19] <tis_me> gradecke: I tried that alternate, it installs ubuntu (Gnome), and is good if you want RAID, LVM, or encrypted LVM
[21:19] <jussi01> Brian__: so your grub is pointing at the wrong place, or?
[21:20] <gradecke> tis_me: will it only install gnome or also upgrade to kde4? (i don't need any extras like raid, but good to know :))
[21:20] <Brian__> jussi01:  i need to use lilo, and im not positive whats wrong.  when i boot i get kicked out to a console "(initramfs)
[21:20] <Brian__> seems like it cant find my real root
[21:20] <deekay_> how do i configure my grub? got kubuntu 9.04
[21:20] <jussi01> Brian__: hrm, Im not familiar with lilo at all - sorry,
[21:21] <deekay_> is there any gui there?
[21:21] <tis_me> well, after you've got a package manager in, you can install kde
[21:21] <deekay_> do u mean me?
[21:22] <tis_me> gradecke: doesn't adept-manager offer to upgrade to jaunty periodically -- no disk required
[21:22] <deekay_> well in 8.10 kubuntu there was an option to edit the grub... how do i edit the grub in 9.04 ?
[21:22] <tis_me> no deekay
[21:23] <gradecke> tis_me: I want to upgrade my dad's box, and his connection is just slightly over a 56k modem
[21:23] <gradecke> that's why I need to take some sort of disc to his place
[21:23] <deekay_> are u german gradecke?
[21:24] <gradecke> deekay_: does that change anything :)?
[21:24] <deekay_> well at www.ubuntuusers.de theres a guide on howto upgrade a distro with cd/dvd
[21:24] <deekay_> but thats german
[21:26] <tis_me> deekay: $grub  >root (hd0,4)  >setup (hd0)  >quit # reinstalls grub in MBR with pointer to /boot/grub/menu.lst in hda5  -- alter as necessary
[21:26] <deekay_> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Upgrade_auf_Jaunty
[21:26] <gradecke> deekay_: in this case - yes I am german :) (I just searched in english though, normally that's enough :) - thank you
[21:26] <deekay_> nana dont get me wrong... i dont wanna reinstall grub
[21:26] <deekay_> gradecke: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Upgrade_auf_Jaunty
[21:27] <deekay_> well i just wanted to change the way grub acts like
[21:27] <deekay_> standard boot = vista
[21:27] <deekay_> after 3 seconds
[21:27] <jussi01> !info kgrubeditor | deekay_
[21:28] <tty17> what did kcontrol get renamed to in kde 4?
[21:28] <deekay_> okay i installed that kgrub thingi
[21:28] <deekay_> where do i find it now ?
[21:28] <jussi01> tty17: system settings...
[21:28] <tty17> jussi01: yeah but what command?
[21:28] <jussi01> tty17: systemsettings
[21:28] <deekay_> lol? this time it worked
[21:28] <deekay_> thanks guys
[21:29] <deekay_> 10 min ago i installed that and there was no option in system settings
[21:29] <deekay_> wierd
[21:29] <tty17> jussi01: thanks man
[21:29] <deekay_> or is it weird ?
[21:29] <deekay_> thanks guys :D
[21:30] <tis_me> gradecke: If you have a 9.04 disk, you can specify it as a repository, and just use the internet for missing files. Otherwise, I don't think a disk will allow an upgrade, just installs
[21:31] <tis_me> Does anyone know if /var/log/btmp should have permissions 664 or 660?
[21:31] <deekay_> looks like gradecke is off
[21:31] <tis_me> yup
[21:32] <deekay_> well thanks for that kgrubeditor tip... gn8 guys
[21:36] <MixMasterMike> hi all im trying to install kubuntu 9.04 but after the cd boot and the kubuntu loading message the screen remains black
[21:36] <MixMasterMike> and no mouse pointer
[21:37] <MixMasterMike> if i switch to first console with ctrl_alt_f1 i see the normal shell ubuntu@ubuntu$
[21:37] <MixMasterMike> any hint?
[21:39] <MixMasterMike> i have a integrated nvidia
[21:39] <MixMasterMike> no help for me?
[21:40] <tis_me> if going back to ctrl_alt_f7 doesn't show anything good, check ' sudo tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' those log files are actually quite good for fiding out what's going on
[21:40] <ricardo__> hi
[21:40] <Wunderkind> hallo, i've got a slight problem
[21:41] <Wunderkind> is there anyone here to help me?
[21:41] <ricardo__> it depends
[21:41] <ricardo__> whats your issue?
[21:41] <Wunderkind> just realised, this is kubuntu, not xubuntu...
[21:41] <Wunderkind> oops
[21:41] <Wunderkind> do you know anything about xubuntu?
[21:42] <ricardo__> not much
[21:42] <ricardo__> im used to ubuntu and kubuntu
[21:42] <ricardo__> you can try asking anyway
[21:42] <jussi01> Wunderkind: #xubuntu ;)
[21:42] <tis_me> if you say what the problem is, and someone can help, they will answer
[21:43] <Wunderkind> basically when i log in it takes a bit longer than usual to completely finish loading my desktop because it appears to load my gnome desktop as well- my gnome desktop flashes for a couple of seconds, then reverts to my xubuntu set-up
[21:43] <ricardo__> check out your session managment configuration
[21:44] <ricardo__> maybe there is a conflict betwen nautilus and xubuntu desktop
[21:44] <MixMasterMike> anyone with kde4.2.3 can check if konsole can save opened tabs in the profile?
[21:45] <Wunderkind> i think it may have been nautilus
[21:45] <Wunderkind> so i've stopped that starting on start up
[21:45] <Wunderkind> thanks
[21:45] <ricardo__> you're welcome wunderk
[21:45] <ricardo__> mixmast
[21:45] <ricardo__> i have kde 4.2.3
[21:47] <MixMasterMike> tis_me, the log seems ok
[21:47] <MixMasterMike> i cant see errors
[21:47] <MixMasterMike> but the screen remain (light)black
[21:48] <MixMasterMike> and no pointer on the scree
[21:48] <nacer> hi
[21:48] <ricardo__> hi _nacer
[21:50] <tis_me> MixMasterMike: try a different install disk, live cd, or dvd - whichever
[21:50] <MixMasterMike> its a live cd
[21:50] <tis_me> try the dvd
[21:51] <tis_me> the disk is probably trashed, you may want to reburn another,
[21:52] <tis_me> you're not even getting to the point where you can do the "check the media"
[21:53] <afeijo> what? I need to install a VM with windows to use my ipod touch? damn
[21:53] <carlos> hola
[21:53] <_naok_> #ubuntu-es
[21:53] <fred___> problems with sound server pulse
[21:56] <hbbk> tis_me don't found any dsmp suspend anywhere in kaffeine
[21:57] <hbbk> I repeat my question for newcomers : again question about jaunty and kaffeine : how to disable screensaver when playing videos with kaffeine ?
[22:00] <emanuel> Hi all. Does anybody know under what condition the "reply" button would be disabled in kmail message view?
[22:01] <eschoettler> how can i install a canon printer in kubuntu 9.04?
[22:05] <tobi__> !usb
[22:05] <marie_nickname> hi I'm using xubuntu and I'm missing the bottom applications in the bar at the top left-. if i go on add icon there is no option for add application
[22:06] <tobi__> what is the cmd for checking my usb device?
[22:12] <mkargar> helloo
[22:13] <mkargar> Dragon player not show flv,Mp4 ....formats!it play only mpeg!
[22:13] <mkargar> whats this problem!
[22:17] <realmatt> is there a program that can take multiple images from a scanner (or other source)  and take a guess at how to best put them together?
[22:19] <mkargar> please help me!phonon not show mp4 and flv frormat!it play only Audio of file!
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[22:21] <TefZe1> can someone kick him?
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[22:21] <realmatt> that term is outdated
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[22:21] <levidos> wow
[22:21] <levidos> nice :)
[22:21] <jussi01> guys, the !ops call is there for a reason...
[22:22] <hbbk> nobody could answer my screensave/kaffeine question ?
[22:23] <hbbk> nobody watch movies with kaffeine here ?
[22:23] <jussi01> hbbk: I use vlc - sorry.
[22:23] <venik> does anyone know how to view pdf files in Epiphany?  I see nothing when I click on a pdf file there
[22:23] <realmatt> I use mplayer
[22:23] <levidos> hello. i;ve been messing with bind9 starting my own dns server, and my computer can't resolve now it's own name... can you help me please?
[22:24] <hbbk> jussi01 & realmatt you don't have any wild screensaver activation while watching movies with vlc and mplayer ?
[22:25] <jussi01> hbbk: no.
[22:25] <realmatt> kbbk: I do not
[22:25] <hbbk> jaunty ?
[22:25] <hbbk> that's not fair :)
[22:25] <realmatt> hbbk: I am using intrepid still
[22:26] <hbbk> oh I had no proble with intrepid the problem started with upgrading to jaunty
[22:43] <elliottm> is there a specific place to ask questions about the jaunty kde3 version of kubuntu?
[22:44] <elliottm> i have no idea how to connect a wireless netork
[22:47] <katie> does anyone know of a wireless setup tutorial for jaunty?
[22:48] <Allydede> hi why can i doesnt play mp3 at my amarok player?
[22:48] <Allydede> i use the german wiki http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Soundkarten_installieren/HDA but its the same problem
[22:53] <katie> where can I find out how fresh installs of jaunty on an inspiron e1505 work?
[23:02] <Allydede> anyone here who can help in the part for soundcard?
[23:21] <beagleburt> G'day evry1 from New Zealand - 10:10am Tuesday 12th May  - Problem: Whilest trying to Upgrade from K-6.06 LTS > K-8.04 LTS, I got "Not enough Free Disk space. The upgrade aborts now.The upgrade needs a total of 1425M free space on disk '/var'.Please free at least an additional 1184M of disk space on '/var'....BUT according to 'Gparted' I only have a total of 996.2M. Also: I only have a total of 47.1M "unallocated" space.HELP!
[23:46] <firsm> Hi, what are you guys using to make GTK+ apps look like qt4/oxygen apps? gtk-engine-qt just causes all gtk2 apps to segfault.
[23:49] <ign0ramus> firsm, you mean "gtk-qt-engine"?
[23:50] <firsm> ign0ramus: yes.
[23:50] <ign0ramus> firsm, do you also have "gtk-qt-engine-kde4" installed?
[23:51] <firsm> ign0ramus: Yeah I do
[23:51] <ign0ramus> firsm, hmmm... what style are you applying to your gtk apps?
[23:52] <firsm> ign0ramus: qt4 using the switch2 command
[23:52] <ign0ramus> firsm, have you tried just setting it in System Settings?
[23:52] <firsm> ign0ramus: Mmh no, didn't know you can do that.
[23:53] <ign0ramus> firsm, yeah, it's in System Settings > Appearance
[23:53] <ign0ramus> firsm, also, using qtcurve style actually makes gtk apps look clean
[23:54] <ign0ramus> "gtk2-engines-qtcurve" and "kde-style-qtcurve" are the packages for that
[23:54] <ign0ramus> firsm, finally, you know that you must restart kde for the styles to take effect, yes?
[23:55] <ign0ramus> firsm, if you're still getting segfaults after trying the above options, run gtk apps in terminal for error messages or check the logs
[23:59] <firsm> ign0ramus: alright thanks, using the system settings seems to work, except that highlighted menu items in gtk+ apps are now black on dark blue and therefore impossible to read, hmm.
[23:59] <ign0ramus> firsm, but that's not how your qt apps behave?
[23:59] <firsm> ign0ramus: Indeed
[23:59] <firsm> ign0ramus: I'll just use qtcuve which seems to always work
[23:59] <ign0ramus> firsm, strange indeed.  qtcurve is your best bet, imho