[00:47] <vibhav> Any op available?
[00:47] <IdleOne> yes
[00:47] <IdleOne> what's up vibhav ?
[00:48] <vibhav> NOthing much
[00:48] <vibhav> I was asking wether my ban from #ubuntu could be removed
[00:48] <vibhav> whether*
[00:49] <IdleOne> I'll have to talk to the other ops about it. Can I get back to you a little later about it?
[00:49] <vibhav> sure
[00:49] <IdleOne> cool :)
[00:49] <vibhav> But could you try to do it before 2nd July?
[00:49] <IdleOne> What is the 2nd of July?
[00:50] <vibhav> DMB meeting
[00:50] <vibhav> Ive applied for contributing developers
[00:50] <IdleOne> What happens at this DMB meeting?
[00:51] <bkerensa> IdleOne: they determine whether he gets upload rights
[00:51] <bkerensa> IdleOne: although its held in #ubuntu-meeting
[00:51] <bkerensa> not #ubuntu
[00:51] <IdleOne> yes, but being banned from the main support channel looks bad
[00:51] <bkerensa> True
[00:52] <vibhav> yup
[00:52] <IdleOne> vibhav: I'll get back to you soon'ish
[00:52] <IdleOne> before July 2
[00:53] <vibhav> thanks dude
[00:53] <IdleOne> bkerensa: Getting upload rights also makes you an Ubuntu member right?
[00:53] <bkerensa> no
[00:53] <IdleOne> intersting
[00:53] <IdleOne> interesting*
[00:54] <bkerensa> Ikr... not sure why it has M in the title it is a bit confusing
[00:54] <bkerensa> DMB's role is to determine whether someone gets MOTU/PPU/Core/Etc
[00:55] <bkerensa> vibhav has in reality done a lot of work in development so I would very surprised if the DMB declined him depending on what he is applying for specifically
[00:55] <IdleOne> @mark #ubuntu vibhav has requested that his ban be removed before July 2 2012. He is applying to the DMB for upload rights.
[00:57] <IdleOne> bkerensa: thanks for the info :)
[00:57] <bkerensa> no doubt
[00:58] <IdleOne> good band
[01:18] <JoseeAntonioR> problem apparently solved
[01:19] <chu> :)
[01:21] <genii-around> Heh. then right after: <mernilio> i need op status here. Is it possible?
[01:21] <JoseeAntonioR> mernilio still in #ubuntu, asking for ops to ban people from the channel, keeping the rude attitude
[01:21] <JoseeAntonioR> genii-around: yep! I thought he/she had calmed down
[01:29] <chu> Ahh zewb in #ubuntu
[01:29] <JoseeAntonioR> yep
[01:31] <JoseeAntonioR> He's not listening to any advice
[01:32] <usr13> anywone awake?
[01:32] <chu> Ahh, that's not really contributing anything.
[01:32] <JoseeAntonioR> #u ops, need a quiet in zewb
[01:32] <usr13> there are some rather disruptive things going on....
[01:33] <chu> Cheers bazhang
[01:33] <JoseeAntonioR> usr13: an op has already taken the necessary actions in zewb, don't worry
[01:33] <JoseeAntonioR> bazhang: thanks again
[03:04] <bazhang> the bot can access redhat bugs db?
[03:09] <JoseeAntonioR> bazhang: nope, it returns an error
[03:11] <bazhang> JoseeAntonioR, for that particular bug, yes.
[03:11] <JoseeAntonioR> let me try with another bug, then
[03:11] <bazhang> ok
[03:12] <JoseeAntonioR> nope, same error, it changes the link
[03:13] <JoseeAntonioR> I give the show_bug.cgi page, and looks for xml.cgi
[03:14] <bazhang> cool
[03:14] <bazhang> it works for debian bugs
[03:15] <JoseeAntonioR> yep, it does
[06:29] <bkerensa> It can track some upstream
[06:29] <bkerensa> but Red Hat is clearly not Upstream :)
[06:31] <bkerensa> hmm not moz
 vampirnata: There's MATE-Desktop which is an exact GNOME 2 replica, you may enjoy using it if you're fan of the "classic" Ubuntu look (circa 10.04)
[09:53] <bazhang> augh
[09:53] <bazhang> dont dazzle me bro!
[09:53] <ikonia> the point that mate is based on the gnome2 branch, which is dead seems to be being lost on people
[09:54] <bazhang> shahgurliev seems to think #ubuntu is the UNIX knowledge channel
[09:59] <topyli> i haven't paid enough attention, but it seems the mate folks are actually trying to come up with a sustainable plan, including porting the stuff to gtk3 and gnome3 libs, and only maintaining things like the panel and metacity
[10:00] <topyli> no gurantee of course that such a plan really will work out
[10:00] <ikonia> topyli: I will wager considerable money it's not possible without a re-write
[10:01] <k1l_> i dont think thats gonna work. they had to rename code because of the depencies. the forked the gnome basic apps like nautilus and eog etc. to work with their "new" code
[10:01] <ikonia> agreed
[10:02] <topyli> we'll see. it certainly looks more sane than the old 'goneme' nonsense back in 2.0 days
[10:03] <ikonia> be interesting to see what they plan, but I just can't see it as a sustainable project/design
[10:03] <k1l_> honestly i hope they find a way because then the "gnome2-fanboys" will stop to start a unity/gnome3 flamewar every now and then
[10:04] <ikonia> it won't change that
[10:04] <topyli> i'd rather advertise the 'nostalgic' shell extensions than mate for gnome2 fans
[10:04] <ikonia> the work mint is doing with extensions seems to be the most sensible approach
[10:04] <ikonia> they are using gnome 3 as it was designed
[10:05] <topyli> yes
[10:06] <topyli> anyway, once gnome 4 is out, gnome 3 will be declared 'perfect'. that's how it's always been :)
[10:06] <astraljava> You make it sound like nostalgia is a bad thing.
[10:07] <topyli> well we don't have people pining for gnome 1 these days, do we
[10:07] <Myrtti> "#ubuntu-offtopic"
[10:07] <bazhang> kde3.5 more like
[10:07] <topyli> right :)
[10:12] <bazhang> terminhell giving odd advice
[10:12] <bazhang> ah right, he does not even use Ubuntu
[10:16] <jpds> Nothing like misinformation.
[10:17] <bazhang> neither he nor theadmin use Ubuntu. recommending MATE and the like as well.
[10:17] <ikonia> I like how "they do exist, just not in ubuntu" so where to they exist ? in the air ? I use the "bubble" group on my machine does that make it "bubble exists, just not in ubuntu"
[15:48] <bazhang> oCean, apologies at not being available for PM earlier
[15:49] <bazhang> have had to set +g due to noxious spammers via PM
[15:49] <oCean> bazhang: not a problem at all
[15:49] <oCean> really
[15:50] <oCean> that can be a pain :(
 can i be operator in this xchat like ubottu
[15:54] <oCean> ehm..
 hey vibhav, what did the rapist say to his victim ?
[17:07] <bazhang> some intervention in -ot needed
[17:08] <IdleOne> you intervened :)
[17:09] <bazhang> that deserves a +b
[17:16] <IdleOne> @btlogin
[17:33] <bazhang> martinphone has a history of doing this
[18:36] <oCean> Guest68204: hi
[20:16] <IdleOne> Guest68204: is there anything I can help you with?
[20:17] <Unit193> His connection, and autoidentify, it's M0hi.
[20:17] <IdleOne> oh.
[20:17] <IdleOne> k then :)
[20:17] <Unit193> Seems like he may have left it open.
[22:24] <bkerensa> IdleOne: to clarify apparently DMB can potentially provide membership but it does not seem like that is a frequent function?


[01:25] <Paddy_NI> How do I package an "npm package" for snappy?
[01:25] <Paddy_NI> Specifically "peerflix"
[04:15] <bneo99> hi, im trying to port ubuntu touch to an android device (samsung galaxy s2 i9100g) and im following the touch porting guide but im stuck
[04:16] <bneo99> theres this part that told me to add my device repo to the phablet/devices
[04:17] <bneo99> im still new to git and all these repo stuff so im not sure how should i add my device repo
[04:41] <OerHeks> bneo99, did you see this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/i9100 or is the i9100g different?
[04:41] <bneo99> the processor's different
[04:41] <bneo99> the i9100g uses the samsung exynos processor while the i9100g uses the ti omap processor
[04:41] <bneo99> shoot
[04:41] <bneo99> the i9100*
[04:42] <OerHeks> errwrong url http://www.android-hilfe.de/thema/galaxy-s2-i9100g-rom-ubuntu-touch.415553/
[04:42] <OerHeks> it is in german
[04:42] <bneo99> i doubt  i can read german
[04:43] <OerHeks> google translate can help a lot :-)
[04:45] <bneo99> it seems that it has an english thread at xdadevelopers
[04:45] <bneo99> i read that thread before but it has been very inactive (abandoned since late 2013 )
[04:46] <bneo99> im looking for the latest method to do it, using the lxc container method
[04:46] <bneo99> those are the old methods where Ubuntu is in a chroot enviroment
[04:46] <OerHeks> oke, i guess you might want to wait until a dev show up.
[04:47] <bneo99> okay, thanks anyways
[04:47] <OerHeks> yw
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> morning guys
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> i had an ubuntu one account loop on bq 4.5 recently, it said account error on 2 working logins resetting device to defaults didnt fix, after few times retry it went away ayone got a clue?
[06:20] <fj_> i want install ubuntu on huawei G610
[06:20] <fj_> i wanna know if anyone try it before
[06:20] <nhaines> !devices
[06:20] <ubot5`> You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[06:20] <nhaines> That's all the info we have.
[06:23] <fj_> this is list of all supported or i can make a try ???
[06:24] <fj_> ???
[08:48] <bneo99> any devs online? need some help on porting Touch to my device
[08:49] <nhaines> bneo99: you may have better luck Tuesday (Monday is a release day).  But if you stick around, some people might be on in the next day or so.  :)
[08:50] <bneo99> okay, thanks
[08:50] <nhaines> Right time zone, but it's the weekend.  :)
[08:50] <bneo99> what time zone are they on?
[08:50] <nhaines> Mostly London Time.  You can also try the mailing list.
[08:51] <bneo99> okay, thankss
[09:44] <popey> bneo99: what device?
[09:44] <bneo99> Samsung Galaxy S2 i9100g
[11:19] <tathhu> ayy
[11:33] <yellabs> hi there
[11:34] <yellabs> is there a pdf reader for the phone ?
[11:35] <OerHeks> hi yellabs
[11:35] <OerHeks> i just looked @ unofficial https://uappexplorer.com/apps
[11:36] <OerHeks> https://uappexplorer.com/apps?view=list&q=pdf&sort=-points
[11:36] <yellabs> goede website thanks
[11:36] <OerHeks> :-)
[11:36] <OerHeks> ik weet niet zeker of die up2date is, maar wel een start
[11:40] <yellabs> heb je ook een ubuntu phone ?
[11:41] <yellabs> heb er hier even tijdelijk een in mijn handen .. digilab bibliotheek tilburg ( centrum ) opensource hoekje
[11:41] <OerHeks> Nee, nog niet..maar dat gaat wel snel komen. ik volg het graag
[11:41] <yellabs> zou toch in ieder bibliotheek moeten zijn , vindt je ook niet ? :)
[11:44] <popey> Yes, docviewer is in the store and can open pdf
[11:45] <OerHeks> thanks popey :-)
[11:46] <OerHeks> yellabs, nice, so you can 'rent' / borrow one on your librarycard?
[11:47] <yellabs> i have just tested the pdf reader
[11:47] <yellabs> works great
[11:47] <yellabs> now the ubuntu phone is on display for public
[11:47] <OerHeks> Oh nice, would you make a picture and write a little story about it?
[11:48] <yellabs> and no , you cant rent it.. just see it .. :)
[11:48] <OerHeks> popey, and others, would love to know about it!
[11:48] <OerHeks> or just link to the website :-)
[11:49] <yellabs> the story is on the facebook page
[11:49] <yellabs> https://www.facebook.com/LinuxFlavourz
[11:49] <yellabs> with picture
[11:49] <yellabs> afcause we do more then just the ubuntu phone
[11:50] <OerHeks> Thanks ☺
[11:50] <yellabs> raspberry py, open source operating system , 3d print etc etc
[11:51] <OerHeks> that is also good to know, that ubuntu-phone is getting attention in this digilab, i will visit you soon.
[11:51] <OerHeks> meet&greet
[11:54] <yellabs> you are welcome
[11:54] <OerHeks> Thanks.
[11:54] <yellabs> saturday - from 13.00 to 17.00
[11:58] <yellabs> OerHeks , van welke stad ben je ?
[11:58] <yellabs> je hebt het wel eens verteld, maar ik ben het vergeten
[11:59] <yellabs> was het arnhem ?
[11:59] <OerHeks> Haarlem
[12:00] <yellabs> oh okee, het is wel een eindje weg,
[12:00] <yellabs> any way , have a nice day !
[12:01] <OerHeks> Daytrip card normally € 39,00, for €13.50 is doable
[12:01] <OerHeks> have fun yellabs !
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> i had an ubuntu one account loop on bq 4.5 recently, it said account error on 2 working logins resetting device to defaults didnt fix, after few times retry it went away ayone got a clue?
[12:59] <tur_lance_54> Does anyone here use an ubuntu touch phone as their primary phone?
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> yes
[12:59] <tathhu> yes
[13:00] <tathhu> (and only :P)
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> bq 4.5 and nexus7 tablet on touch here
[13:00] <tur_lance_54> Great. I've just got an MX4
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> i thought they sold out tur_lance_54 ?
[13:00] <tur_lance_54> Haha. My bro, who loves his iPhone too much gave me his two days ago ;)
[13:00] <tathhu> :o
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> wth...
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> he gave you his mx4?
[13:01] <tur_lance_54> Reset it to factory settings and gave it to me.
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> nice mate
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> tur_lance_54: howd you like it so far?
[13:02] <tur_lance_54> Errr.... I'm finding it hard to get used to and it hasn't replaced my Samsung Note II with CyanogenMod yet.
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> well weve played with unity for some time now, so were used to it :p
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> tur_lance_54: you use ubuntu desktop too?
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> or only phone experience
[13:03] <tur_lance_54> Tried installing the Yahoo! Mail app as an experiment from the Ubuntu Software Centre and it's asking me to set up an Ubuntu One Account.
[13:03] <tur_lance_54> Thought Ubuntu One was 'GAME OVER' a while back
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> tur_lance_54: its still hooked for the phones
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> database of users remain
[13:04] <tur_lance_54> lotuspsychje I am using Ubuntu GNOME
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> they just dont do the cloud storage anymore
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> ah ok
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> tur_lance_54: so create your ubuntu one accoutn safely
[13:05] <tur_lance_54> Do I have to set up an Ubuntu One Account to download apps to my phone?
[13:05] <tathhu> Yes
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> yes
[13:05] <tathhu> :(
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> thats really no big deal
[13:05] <tur_lance_54> lotuspsychje OK, no problem
[13:06] <argon181> little qustion about ubuntu one: they stopped the service for desktop (cloud, backup and stuff) and i read, that you can get the software free, but where?
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> argon181: software as in ubuntu phone apps?
[13:08] <argon181> nono, the "server" software the cloudservice used
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> ah
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> maybe thats a question for #ubuntu argon181
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> someone might know howto
[13:09] <argon181> ok, i just asked it here, you guys talked about it, thanks
[13:09] <argon181> so i am known as argon181?
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> argon181: join #ubuntu please, there's a trigger about one
[13:09] <argon181> should be something else
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> argon181: it is...
[13:10] <argon181> hm, ok
[13:43] <tur_lance_54> Right then fellas, I've got my Ubuntu One Account set up and installed my first program through it onto my phone. So this 'app' that you swipe with "Today", "NearBy", "Apps", "News" etc with a grey background is always running? Or can you close it?
[13:45] <tathhu> Yes it's always running, you can remove ones you don't want/need with that star on topright
[13:47] <tur_lance_54> Thanks tathhu, can I change the background from the default grey?
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> tur_lance_54: you can set backgroud slide to another wallpaper
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> tur_lance_54: not the scopes or default ubuntu color theme
[14:11] <tathhu> Anyone else running ota 7 got that magic grey.. thingy when scrolling down today-scope? http://i.imgur.com/f4ZvB4s.png
[14:15] <tathhu> o.o i "rebooted" it and its gone
[14:16] <popey> thats an arrow, madly sized
[14:17] <popey> and you're probably alone as not many have ota-7
[15:25] <ahoneybun> mhall119: how did you get the N4 to work with slimport right?
[15:25] <ahoneybun> mine just shows half the screen filled with the phone UI
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> i had an ubuntu one account loop on bq 4.5 recently, it said account error on 2 working logins resetting device to defaults didnt fix, after few times retry it worked again ayone got a clue?
[15:51] <dhbiker> so any word on arale ?
[15:51] <dhbiker> will it be availible or is it the end :D
[18:54] <Rhymnoceros> wazzup!
[19:55] <dhbiker> don't know if i asked but
[19:55] <dhbiker> is there any way to set a custom ringtone ?
[19:56] <dhbiker> i can't find the setting o.O
[19:56] <dhbiker> or i'm blind
[20:27] <jgdx> dhbiker, think there's a bug for it
[20:27] <jgdx> dhbiker, yup: bug 1268097
[20:27] <ubot5`> bug 1268097 in content-hub (Ubuntu) "[System settings] Can't set user-supplied ring tone" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1268097
[20:28] <dhbiker> ah.
[20:28] <jgdx> there probably are ways if you really want it
[20:28] <dhbiker> we'll get there eventually
[20:28] <dhbiker> nah no hurry
[20:28] <dhbiker> was just surprised
[20:29] <tathhu> is there setting ui for saving eg screenshots in to sd card?
[20:29] <jgdx> yeah, it's one of those things that have been pushed I guess
[20:29]  * tathhu lazyman
[20:30] <dhbiker> what was in the last arale rc update
[20:30] <dhbiker> 140 something MB
[20:30] <dhbiker> o.O
[20:31] <tur_lance_54> Is ubuntu touch still kinda in beta?
[20:34] <jgdx> tur_lance_54, using OMG Ubuntu as a source, the phase we're currently in is for enthusiasts, developers, etc.
[20:35] <jgdx> early adopters, ubuntu fans, et al
[20:36] <tathhu> And everything you read on internet is true.
[20:36] <jgdx> everything I say is a lie
[20:39] <tathhu> :D
[20:39] <tathhu> Damn
[20:40] <jgdx> it's the old nut!
[20:40] <jgdx> :p
[20:53] <tur_lance_54> Though the MX4 is a beautiful phone and has a lovely screen, I don't think it will replace my Note II just yet.
[20:53] <tur_lance_54> But I will certainly give it a go
[20:53] <tur_lance_54> I've just tried to install QQ on it. I have a lot of Chinese friends and a simply 'need' QQ.
[20:54] <tur_lance_54> QQ ain't workin
[22:07] <ahoneybun> QQ?
[22:34] <jgdx> ahoneybun, input methods, I assume
[22:34] <ahoneybun> m
[22:34] <ahoneybun> mm
[22:34] <jgdx> specifically ibus things is lacking
[22:34] <jgdx> *are