[05:54] <quintin> sic: no problem
[05:54] <daurn> !sound
[05:54] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:55] <quintin> daurn: what certain sound card?  is it supported by the kernel?
[05:55] <daurn> yeah
[05:55] <eurytus> I dislike mouse accel, but the max speed/no acceleration setting is far too slow. Is there something I can manually edit to boost my sensitivity?
[05:55] <daurn> i've had sound out of it before
[05:56] <daurn> i did something Jack_Sparrow told me to do a while ago, and i've had trouble with sound since
[05:56] <sic> daurn: you mean Captain jack sparrow ;)
[05:57] <sic> daurn: sry - watch the movie yesterday *g*
[05:57] <Lam_> for the broadcom users, is anyone using bcm43xx-fwcutter for 4318 or 4319?
[05:57] <Lam_> !broadcom
[05:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:57] <briank> hello everyone, I can't seem to get quicktime files to play in firefox with mplayer
[05:58] <mattik> Hello. How can I get flash games running in Firefox with DApper?
[05:58] <led_floyd> hi all
[05:58] <briank> I have the additional codecs installed, but it just says stopped
[05:58] <daurn> uh
[05:58] <mattik> Keyboard aren't running with flash games
[05:58] <daurn> any1?
[05:58] <led_floyd> i've some problems to configure samba+ldap
[05:59] <briank> anyone have any similar experiences?
[05:59] <led_floyd> when i run # net getlocalsid i receiv this error:
[05:59] <led_floyd> [2006/09/28 17:55:34, 0]  lib/smbldap.c:smb_ldap_start_tls(546)
[05:59] <led_floyd>   Failed to issue the StartTLS instruction: Connect error
[05:59] <led_floyd> someone can help me?
[06:00] <Firestar> JosefK, sorry, it doesn't work :(
[06:00] <mattik> Has flash buggies in dapper?
[06:00] <Firestar> how can I confirm that it picked up my change?
[06:01] <WRFC_Rabbit> hi ppl
[06:01] <WRFC_Rabbit> i need my printer to work and i need help with it!
[06:02] <Hoxzer> how do I change my defautl sound card?
[06:02] <m_0_r_0_n> How do I get the size of a file in a bash script ... if [ ? $file -lt 20000]  ... ?
[06:03] <none> if you dont find anything else use "du"
[06:04] <ladydoor> is it possible to set up syntax highlighting in less?
[06:04] <hantu> haven't heard of that, ladydoor
[06:04] <Dr_willis> ladydoor,  not that i have ever seen
[06:05] <daurn> ok
[06:05] <ladydoor> hantu: yeah, i thought that i'd heard of it somewhere, but maybe not :-)
[06:05] <daurn> i need help
[06:05] <daurn> sound
[06:05] <ladydoor> !ask
[06:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:05] <hantu> less -r?
[06:05] <daurn> how can i TOTALLY reset sound config
[06:05] <FlaX> After compiling a a kernel, how do i install it?
[06:05] <eurytus> I dislike mouse accel, but the max speed/no acceleration setting is far too slow. Is there something I can manually edit to boost my sensitivity?
[06:05] <daurn> i just want to dump it and start again
[06:06] <LjL> m_0_r_0_n: perhaps this is a bit stupid, but i can think of      if [ "`ls -s $File | cut -d " " -f1`" -lt SIZE ] ; then .......
[06:06] <Dr_willis> eurytus,  tried that Mouse-settings contorl panel thing yet?
[06:06] <hantu> ladydoor: i found http://www-zeuthen.desy.de/~friebel/unix/less/README
[06:06] <hantu> ladydoor: should be what you want.
[06:06] <eurytus> Dr_willis, yes, that is the "max speed/no accel" setting I was referring to
[06:06] <ladydoor> LjL: yeah, never mind. it wasn't a big deal, just a random point of curiosity
[06:06] <meal3837> !pastebin
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[06:06] <ladydoor> hantu: cool
[06:06] <josh__> Hi everyone :)
[06:07] <eurytus> I tried using that to change my mouse speed, the maximum speed is too slow to have no acceleration
[06:07] <daurn> any1?
[06:07] <nei1> hello
[06:07] <josh__> How do i change the shortcut key from CTRL+ALT+Delete to something else?
[06:07] <josh__> For restarting X
[06:07] <Dr_willis> josh__,  why would you want to?
[06:08] <meal3837> anyone using edgy?
[06:08] <nei1> trying to install ndiswrapper
[06:08] <LjL> !edgy
[06:08] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:08] <josh__> Whenever im typing something in forums etc, I keep hitting ctrl+alt+del
[06:08] <soheil> hi room
[06:08] <hantu> xbindkeys should help, josh.
[06:08] <josh__> especially after typing quite alot, its quite annoying
[06:08] <ladydoor> meal3837: ask in #ubuntu+1.
[06:08] <Dr_willis> josh__,  You must really have fat fingers.
[06:09] <hantu> (i dont see how typing in forums makes you press c/a/del) :P
[06:09] <soheil> Why cannot I compile my C++ codes in ubuntu?
[06:09] <hantu> soheil: errors?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> josh__,  you can disable the sequence totally in the xorg.conf
[06:09] <soheil> yes
[06:09] <ladydoor> soheil: have you installed build-essential?
[06:09] <LjL> josh__: perhaps http://www.faqs.org/faqs/aix-faq/part2/section-34.html
[06:09] <josh__> im clumsy lol
[06:09] <quintin> Any tips on how to make my desktop more responsive?
[06:09] <soheil> I g++ them
[06:09] <ladydoor> quintin: to?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> alt-ctrl BACKSPACE kills X - alt-ctrl-Delete reboots
[06:09] <quintin> soheil: ehm... install copmiler etc?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> or at least will at the console.
[06:09] <soheil> no, just g++
[06:09] <josh__> ill try, thanks everyone :)
[06:09] <josh__> i mean backspace lol
[06:09] <none> quintin: buy more ram
[06:09] <hantu> ladydoor: did that help?
[06:09] <quintin> none: it has 512
[06:09] <eurytus> is this a laptop keyboard or something?
[06:10] <Dr_willis> a-s-bs -> xorg setting 'nozap'  i belive its called.
[06:10] <ladydoor> hantu: haha, yeah...i was just curious, basically :-)
[06:10] <josh__> i press ctrl+backspace to take off that word when I make a typo, then hit alt with my thumb
[06:10] <soheil> I installed g++-4.0
[06:10] <nei1> anyone help with wireless ndiswrapper
[06:10] <quintin> I mean as far as menus opening, etc.  I don't want delays or effects, I just want things to happen NOOOOWW
[06:10] <daurn> someone, HELP ME PLEASE
[06:10] <soheil> Why cannot I compile my C++ codes in ubuntu?
[06:10] <ladydoor> quintin: use fluxbox or some other lightweight wm?
[06:10] <hantu> nei1: plenty of howto's in the forum, have you tried?
[06:10] <eurytus> your thumb shouldn't be near alt
[06:10] <ladydoor> !repeat
[06:10] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:10] <soheil> I installed g++-4.0
[06:10] <LjL> !tell soheil about build-essential
[06:10] <Dr_willis> !ask
[06:10] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:10] <eurytus> keep it over the space bar
[06:10] <quintin> ladydoor: windows xp is blazing fast on this machine..
[06:11] <nei1> yes can't run make install got it working  on my desktop ok
[06:11] <eurytus> !patience
[06:11] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:11] <ladydoor> daurn: be patient. if nobody knows, nobody will say anything. also, SHOUTING is unnecessary
[06:11] <Dr_willis> ive yet to see XP blazinly fast on any machine. :P
[06:11] <quintin> ANy recomendations for a BT client?    Looking for some sort of "i don't have to think about it" best practices document :)
[06:11] <ladydoor> quintin: bittornado
[06:11] <eurytus> bittornado is awesome
[06:11] <soheil> I thought build-essential is neccessary to install debian paxkages
[06:11] <hantu> heh
[06:11] <Dr_willis> give xp a week to collect the malware/spyware/crudware - it will show dosn.
[06:11] <LjL> soheil: wrong
[06:11] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:11] <hantu> i only use bittorrent for the simplicity.
[06:11] <quintin> hantu: ehm no.  friend tells me his azureus uses like 400mbytes of ram.  and it's java ffs :P
[06:11] <soheil> *was
[06:11] <LjL> soheil: you need build-essential for most compiles
[06:11] <hantu> Dr_willis: a week? give it 2 days max, connected to internet.
[06:11] <daurn> how can i totally reset sound config?
[06:12] <josh__> dr_wiilis: a week of downloading cracked/illegal software? :P
[06:12] <hantu> quintin: i don't run azureus on linux, that just came all of a sudden.
[06:12] <soheil> so why is it necessary?
[06:12] <soheil> compilers u mean?
[06:12] <quintin> ladydoor: is it super duper fast?  I see that in the peers list quite often
[06:12] <Dr_willis> josh__,  i download.. err... never mind.. :P this is a faimly channel
[06:12] <quintin> Oh please, XP is fine with a competent admin
[06:12] <LjL> soheil: because gcc or g++ alone don't contain everything that's needed. doesn't come with libc6-dev, for instance
[06:13] <eurytus> yeah, the xp bashing is a little over-the-top
[06:13] <azzgor> hello
[06:13] <daurn> quintin: azureus is a total ram hog
[06:13] <ladydoor> quintin: what do you mean? i use the curses version, and so i'm not familiar with the ui--i have no idea how fast its menus open and such.
[06:13] <LjL> soheil: no, i meant "most compiles" as in "most stuff that you will compile". but anyway
[06:13] <azzgor> is there any way of making the gnome pannel look like KDE?
[06:13] <daurn> quintin: with azurues + firefox, i end up using 2gb of ram
[06:13] <quintin> ladydoor: no I mean fast as far as download speed.  it's not a GUI client?
[06:13] <Dr_willis> azzgor,  what a weird thing to ask. :P
[06:13] <quintin> daurn: that is *sick*
[06:13] <Firestar> quintin, I added the mem=4096 to my kopt line in menu.lst, but it's still not picking up 4GB of RAM. Exactly the same amount of RAM is picked up (~2.7 GB). Any ideas?
[06:13] <soheil> wwhy I can't do programs in Anjjuta?
[06:13] <ladydoor> quintin: it has a gui version and a normal version
[06:14] <azzgor> Dr_willis: hehe
[06:14] <quintin> ladydoor: I see!  I will check it out, thanks.  I like utorrent best, but it is win only
[06:14] <soheil> because of build-essential?
[06:14] <daurn> i haven't found any good *nix BT clients
[06:14] <hantu> what does the software has anything to do with how fast you download?
[06:14] <LjL> soheil: i don't know, don't use anjuta. but trust me anyway, you *want* to install build-essential if you want to do any compiling at all.
[06:14] <ladydoor> quintin: but its download speed is pretty fast, i guess
[06:14] <daurn> i liked utorrent in windows
[06:14] <CokeNCode> daurn qtorrent is good
[06:14] <Firestar> quintin is there any way to check if the change happened?
[06:14] <daurn> i've been using KTorrent lately
[06:14] <josh__> daurn: azureus or gTorrent
[06:14] <nei1> help please with ndiswrapper on a compaq laptop
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Firestar,  you may want to google that option. I though it was mem=4096mb or similer..
[06:14] <azzgor> still, i dont like that "Applications, Places,System" i just want a menu with everything in it
[06:14] <LjL> soheil: just try installing it, and see if anjuta then works. i suppose anjuta might need make, which doesn't come with g++ either, only with build-essential
[06:14] <quintin> Firestar: look at output from top or look at /proc/meminfo
[06:14] <penny_penguin> Any tips on resolving gcc and kernel compiled gcc mismatch (5.10)?
[06:14] <hantu> nei1: i told you, have you tried the forums
[06:14] <azzgor> just like the K Menu
[06:14] <nei1> yes
[06:14] <daurn> josh__: i want ram for using my computer thankyou very much
[06:15] <FlaX> What's the ubuntu equivalence for 'dpkg -i kernel-image-kernelname.deb' ?
[06:15] <Dr_willis> azzgor,  you can add to panel, similer things..
[06:15] <[BTF] Chm0d> sheez nobody in #unbuntu-xgl wants to even help you out
[06:15] <josh__> daurn: how much do you have?
[06:15] <Dr_willis> azzgor,  or just run the kde panel. :P
[06:15] <nei1> yes hantu
[06:15] <quintin> Ok, now I have 3 downloads going with bittorrent ... 20kB 15kB and 10kB ... my line is capable of 1000kB though
[06:15] <daurn> josh__: this computer, 768
[06:15] <ladydoor> FlaX: sudo dpkg -i image-kernelname.deb
[06:15] <Firestar> quintin, Dr_willis, top doesn't show more than ~2.7 GB, even after the change. I'll check the syntax, though
[06:15] <josh__> daurn: i run everything with under 250 meg
[06:15] <hantu> nei1: never used a compaq, but i thought ndiswrapper is probably all the same setup exceept you ahve to use the drivers for your card.
[06:15] <ladydoor> quintin: well, i mean, it all depends on your share ratio doesn't it?
[06:15] <daurn> josh__: i can't get azureus to run under 512mb
[06:15] <Dr_willis> Firestar,  yea.. i may be wrong.. i last used that ages ago.
[06:15] <azzgor> Dr_willis: okay, and how do i remove the texts near the icon?
[06:15] <hantu> quintin: it could be the seeders
[06:16] <josh__> daurn: what the... it runs at way way less then that for me
[06:16] <FlaX> ladydoor: doesn work for me, returns "cannot access archive: No such file or directory | Errors were encountered while processing: /usr/src/kernel-image-kernelname.deb
[06:16] <Firestar> Dr_willis, any other ideas as to why my server doesn't want to pick up 4GB of RAM?
[06:16] <Dr_willis> azzgor,  no clue. i use KDE.  ya could always use some gdesklet launcher if you perfer
[06:16] <Dr_willis> Firestar,  some bios/kernel bugglets perhaps..
[06:16] <quintin> ladydoor: not sure.  utorrent gets things fast even if I'm not sharing lots... depending on the seeds.
[06:16] <josh__> daurn: Are you using the official?
[06:16] <kothz> Does your BIOS see 4GB of ram?
[06:16] <soheil> Any good chess software fo ubuntu?
[06:16] <quintin> hantu: yea.  one file has 1k seends though
[06:16] <quintin> Dr_willis: Install FreeBSD =)
[06:16] <soheil> I'm a chess player, u know'
[06:16] <quintin> soheil: gnuchess with xboard.  search web for details.  both in synaptic
[06:16] <ladydoor> FlaX: so wait a second. are you trying to install a non-standard kernel? did you get it from some debian site (or was it listed as a debian package)
[06:17] <LjL> azzgor, i use KDE too, but i i think among the Gnome panel applets there are separate Apps, Places and System applets that only give you an icon... try browsing around the applet list
[06:17] <daurn> josh__: yes
[06:17] <Firestar> Dr_willis, bios picks up the RAM correctly. I'm on latest AMD64 kernel. Any more info?
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> on via arena driver selection what is the closest to ubuntu?? Linux XFree86 (Not distribution-specific)
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> Mandriva 2006 Linux
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> Mandrake / Mandriva pre-2006 Linux
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> Fedora Core 5.0 Linux
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> Fedora Core 4.0 Linux
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> Fedora Core 3.0 Linux
[06:17] <ladydoor> FlaX: if so, the problem may have to do with debian & ubuntu not having 100% compatibility--you should probably install from source
[06:17] <FlaX> ladydoor: got it from www.kernel.org - the latest stabl version
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> Fedora Core 1.0 & 2.0 Linux
[06:17] <LjL> !pastebin
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[06:17] <ladydoor> !paste
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> SuSE Linux
[06:17] <soheil> what about a chess database?
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> Source
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> Red Flag Linux
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> Red Hat Linux
[06:17] <ladydoor> !ops
[06:17] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> MAC OS
[06:17] <LjL> !ops
[06:17] <ladydoor> LjL: i totally win
[06:17] <LjL> ladydoor: :-P
[06:18] <ladydoor> FlaX: oh, cool. let me see...just a sec
[06:18] <ladydoor> !kernel > FlaX
[06:18] <ladydoor> FlaX: read the bot's pm...and good luck
[06:18] <FlaX> thx
[06:18] <hantu> it hurts my eyes just to follow things here.
[06:18] <hantu> ;p
[06:19] <Firestar> that makes 2 of us :(
[06:19] <josh__> its shift+delete to restart x, thats why it keeps restarting X
[06:19] <Dr_willis> josh__,  let me guess.. you are using XGL
[06:19] <daurn> how can i totally reset sound config?
[06:19] <josh__> dr_willis: yes, i just installed it
[06:19] <LjL> josh__: only if you're using XGL
[06:20] <Dr_willis> josh__,  and thats the reason why then.
[06:20] <soheil> I don't find gnuchess in synaptic
[06:20] <TrashHalo> quick question. how do input a logical "or" into a find comand. Like if I want to do find . -name "*.jpg" -name "*.png"
[06:20] <josh__> argh!!
[06:20] <Dr_willis> josh__,  thats a XGL faq.. time to google it.
[06:20] <Dr_willis> !xgl
[06:20] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:20] <josh__> Ok, thanks
[06:21] <mbuf> is there any software/tool for doing console (80x25) based documentation with indentation ?
[06:22] <nei1> hello back new to this irc
[06:22] <hantu> nroff?
[06:22] <hantu> or whatever it is. i forgot.
[06:22] <mbuf> hantu, like the man-pages documentation ?
[06:22] <hantu> myeah.
[06:22] <quintin> TrashHalo: use regexp
[06:23] <josh__> compiz/xgl is the same?
[06:23] <hantu> the 'markup' language.
[06:23] <keleus> I keep getting warnings about unsigned packages when installing from the ubuntu repos - how do I fix that? ( i think i lost the keys somehow? )
[06:24] <nei1> hantu I have ndiswrapper working on mandriva but just installed ubuntu on my laptop ndiswrapper will not make install
[06:24] <sergo> is there any local area connection chat from ubuntu?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> josh__,  they are closely related/intertwined
[06:24] <TrashHalo> quintin: I tried but I may be doing it wrong. I tried,, find . -name "(*.jpg)|(*.png)"
[06:24] <josh__> http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000095 found the answer :)
[06:24] <mbuf> hantu, thanks
[06:24] <LjL> !tell keleus about gpgerr
[06:24] <hantu> nei1: maybe the error messages will tell something.
[06:24] <hantu> its pretty vague for any of us to answer that.
[06:24] <sergo> is there any lan chat from ubuntu?
[06:24] <keleus> how do i switch to other "windows" in irssi?
[06:24] <nei1> hantu   error 1 then error 2
[06:25] <jrib> TrashHalo: use -o for or or if you want to use regex, you need to do -regex instead of -name
[06:25] <keleus> i cant read that message from ubotu
[06:25] <mbuf> sergo, run ircd-hybrid and use gaim or irssi ?
[06:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> sergo, what do you mean?
[06:25] <hantu> nei1: pastebin it.
[06:25] <hantu> !pastebin
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[06:25] <TrashHalo> jrib: ahhh thanks
[06:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> keleus, 'alt+number'
[06:25] <morrye> How do you open ports for the bittorrent client that comes with ubuntu?
[06:25] <POVaddct> TrashHalo: or use this: find . -name "*.jpg" -o -name "*.png"
[06:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> moreon, when you install a client, it will open automagically i suspect
[06:26] <keleus> thanks Kamping_Kaiser thats usefull to know :)
[06:26] <POVaddct> TrashHalo: -o is for "or"
[06:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[06:26] <keleus> thanks LjL
[06:26] <nei1> hantu it says can't find kernel build
[06:26] <TrashHalo> POVaddct: thanks!
[06:26] <JoshRZ> ARGH
[06:26] <sergo> the answer is no? ..
[06:26] <sergo> ok, maybe is time to install windows then
[06:26] <sergo> there a lot of lan chat
[06:26] <hantu> lan chat? :o
[06:26] <sergo> like vypress ..
[06:26] <quintin> morrye: ehm, that depends on your router.  if your router and BT client both support universal plug and play you may not have to do anything
[06:26] <sergo> or other
[06:26] <TrashHalo> despite using linux for 8 years now I have always struggled with find commands >_>
[06:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> er, sergo
[06:26] <quintin> yea
[06:27] <hantu> ive no idea whats vypress, heh.
[06:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> not seraphim
[06:27] <lupine_85> find / -name <whatever>
[06:27] <quintin> I use ls -R | grep
[06:27] <morrye> quintin: How do I find out the port range of the torrent or will I need to install a better client?
[06:27] <hantu> TrashHalo: all i do is find / -name foo
[06:27] <hantu> heh
[06:27] <quintin> grin
[06:27] <hantu> or locate.
[06:27] <quintin> morrye: ehm... which client are you using?  The regular one?  search the web and find out what port it uses!!
[06:27] <TrashHalo> quintin: haha thats what I do too
[06:27] <TrashHalo> quintin: makes more sense that way
[06:28] <keleus> When a repository in this list has a GPG key, you may need to add that to the APT trusted keys. You can do this with the following commands (replace KEY with the key ID)
[06:28] <POVaddct> TrashHalo: find syntax is funny when you use -exec
[06:28] <quintin> TrashHalo: *g*
[06:28] <keleus> where do i find the key I need to import?
[06:28] <keleus> this is for the US repo and security
[06:28] <sergo> heh
[06:28] <soheil> I installed build-essential in synaptic.Do I 'apt-get install build-essential' now?
[06:29] <sergo> anyone use lan?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> soheil,  those commands do the same thing.
[06:29] <JoshRZ> Woot, fixed the shift+backspace
[06:29] <sergo> how do you chat with others from lan that use Vypresschat?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> soheil,  so its installed.
[06:29] <nei1> how do i install kernel build files
[06:29] <hantu> nei1: i don't know, sounds like you didnt do kernel header? not sure, really.
[06:29] <JoshRZ> Whoever had that great idea doesnt know how annoying it is :D
[06:29] <soheil> so no need for it?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> soheil,  do it and see what it says
[06:29] <keleus> LjL: whats the KeyIDs for the repos?
[06:29] <keleus> that info seems to be absent... yet somewhat important
[06:29] <LjL> keleus: dunno, which repos?
[06:30] <sergo> :(
[06:30] <TrashHalo> find ~ \( -iname '*.jpg' -o -iname '*.png' \) -a \! -wholename "*\/\.*" \! -wholename "*\/Misc\/*"      <---- final working find command. >_< Find is the devil
[06:31] <soheil> # ap-get install build-essential
[06:31] <soheil> bash: ap-get: command not found
[06:31] <LjL> it's apt-get
[06:31] <hantu> apt-get
[06:31] <sergo> LjL: hi, do you know how can i chat with frinds that are on windows vypresschat?
[06:31] <[BTF] Chm0d> what does everyone in here use as an audio player?
[06:31] <LjL> sergo: never even heard about that program, to be honest
[06:31] <Dr_willis> spelling is imporntant.. as is 'looking at what you are doing and thinking.' :P
[06:31] <hantu> i run cplay
[06:31] <keleus> LjL: us.archive.ubuntu.com security.ubuntu.com wine.budgetdedicated.com
[06:32] <hantu> [BTF] Chm0d: xmms is pretty decent, mplayer?
[06:32] <hantu> :o
[06:32] <POVaddct> [BTF] Chm0d: xmms
[06:32] <sergo> LjL: what programs do you know then for chatting with frineds from lan...
[06:32] <[BTF] Chm0d> my xmms just stopped loading?  dunno what is wrong with it
[06:32] <[BTF] Chm0d> wont load
[06:32] <[BTF] Chm0d> :(
[06:32] <sergo> client
[06:32] <[BTF] Chm0d> no errors or nothing
[06:32] <LjL> sergo: none really. i don't have a LAN, so...
[06:33] <segfault_> [BTF] Chm0d, amarok
[06:33] <hantu> sergo: http://linux.bydg.org/~yogin/
[06:33] <hantu> have fun? :)
[06:33] <hantu> sergo: i don't "chat" with friends from LAN. i just yell and they'll respond.
[06:34] <[BTF] Chm0d> crap i found the error but pastebin is crappin out
[06:34] <LjL> keleus: you know what, i can't find them
[06:34] <sergo> hantu, i'll try to install vygchat..
[06:34] <sergo> hantu, where by default program will be installed
[06:34] <sergo> ?
[06:34] <herbal> Hey, im having trouble getting parallels to work when i run the config for it, this is the error i get http://pastebin.ca/185077
[06:34] <zaggynl> Does anyone know a tool to edit ISO files? I already tried isomaster, and that didn't work, unfortunatetly.
[06:35] <LjL> keleus: hm, this posting lists some keys... http://www.daniweb.com/blogs/entry769.html ... entirely unofficial though
[06:35] <JB[away] > Hi, give it Apache2.2 for ubuntu ?
[06:35] <keleus> LjL: you think they might be on the keyservers? maybe i should search for ubuntu and see what shows up
[06:36] <LjL> keleus: not sure, the ubuntu help says "There is not yet a standard location where you can find the key for a given apt repository. You will most likely find the key on the repository's web page or as a file in the repository itself."
[06:36] <quintin> zaggynl: WinRAR! =)
[06:36] <hantu> JB[away] : what?
[06:36] <LjL> keleus: i must say i never needed to put keys for the standard archive.ubuntu.com reps
[06:36] <zaggynl> quintin, :D
[06:36] <JB[away] > hantu: i need another Apache version as 2.0.55
[06:36] <zaggynl> I just found kiso in synaptic, seems to work :D
[06:37] <JB[away] > the Apache 2.0.55 is buggy.   I have a frikkin 10mbit line
[06:42] <segfault_> keleus, for std ubuntu repos have u tried sudo apt-key update?
[06:42] <sergo> quintin: i don't have a problem, the linux and his software have a lot of problems
[06:42] <kothz> quintin: it depends on how well seeded the torrents are, the available bandwidth to those/from those peers, how busy they are, how busy you are...
[06:42] <herbal> nobody has any imput on my parallels issue?
[06:42] <keleus> segfault_: nope, didn't know where or what to look for
[06:42] <quintin> kothz: Right.  This is a well seeded torrent
[06:42] <POVaddct> sergo: why do you want to use such a braindead chat system? use irc!
[06:42] <x_O> Hooray! I fixed my linux box... lol
[06:42] <quintin> kothz: and I have more bandwidth than the whole downtown area of this city combined.   yet still it is slow
[06:43] <sergo> who use Vygchat?
[06:43] <segfault_> keleus, try running that command
[06:43] <sergo> POVaddct i need it to chat with peoples from my lan
[06:43] <quintin> Anyone know some kind of script to download and compile cedega automatically?
[06:43] <segfault_> quintin, search for cvscedega on google its out there
[06:43] <POVaddct> sergo: just because people are too dumb to use irc clients?
[06:44] <quintin> segfault_: *steeples fingers*  Excellent.
[06:44] <keleus> gpg: Total number processed: 2
[06:44] <keleus> gpg:              unchanged: 2
[06:44] <Firestar> Can anybody help me? I'm trying to add the mem=4096m command to my kopt line in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file, but every time I reboot (after doing a update-grub command), it resets back to the same value (i.e. no mem=4096m line). Anybody know why?
[06:44] <sergo> POVaddct: the problem is not in that, i need only to have an client to chat in lan and this is all
[06:44] <Antioch> Hi guys, Im trying to edit my .cshrc to set prompt = username@servername but I don't know how to do it, can anyone help? Thanks
[06:45] <sergo> if this is not possible,, then what to say about multimedia or other
[06:45] <sergo> :))
[06:45] <segfault_> Firestar, did u run update-grub
[06:45] <Firestar> segfault_, yes I did :(
[06:45] <quintin> Firestar: screwy!  are you sure you are writing the file?  did you update grub?
[06:45] <sergo> who use vygchat
[06:45] <cherubiel> Antioch: export PS1="\u@\h"
[06:45] <Firestar> quintin, yes I am sure. I did an offline change and then uploaded the file again...
[06:45] <Firestar> trying agian one last time.
[06:46] <Firestar> ok, I now did the change again, and verified by closing and opening the file again. Going to update grub now and then reboot, to see if it works
[06:46] <siXy> which package do i need to compile kernel modules?
[06:46] <sergo> ok, if it's impossible this than windows is a solution
[06:47] <TheGateKeeper> siXy: build-essential
[06:47] <sergo> say hello to linux developer
[06:47] <segfault_> Firestar, before rebooting chk the file to make sure it added that to ur kernel line in grub
[06:47] <Rizla420> hey guys anyone here familiar with bittorrent?  I have a simple question.
[06:47] <Rizla420> its not about firewall settings either
[06:47] <LjL> TheGateKeeper: don't think that's enough for kernel modules, though...
[06:47] <keleus> segfault_: oooh, it had stopped not too long ago... but now if it starts again i should be all set
[06:47] <j-b> hello.
[06:47] <Antioch> cherubiel there is no export command
[06:47] <siXy> thegatekeeper - thanks
[06:47] <keleus> now i just need to whine at wine to sign their repo :)
[06:47] <Firestar> segfault_ I just did. I checked the file, and it was added. I then updated grub and am now rebooting.
[06:48] <hantu> !ask
[06:48] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:48] <Subhuman> Rizla420, jus ask
[06:48] <segfault_> keleus, yeah that would be nice
[06:48] <BrianG> ax
[06:48] <cherubiel> Antioch: try PS1="\u@\h" on the commandline
[06:48] <Rizla420> anyone know what's cuasing azerus to start downloading some files and then all of a sudden my download speed drops to 0 and has to start back up
[06:48] <Rizla420> its constantly happening now
[06:48] <Rizla420> my nat is ok
[06:48] <Subhuman> Rizla420, you tried using other clients?
[06:48] <segfault_> Firestar, i dont mean chk the kopt line, i mena chk the kernel line for the mem= option
[06:48] <TheGateKeeper> siXy: sounds like you might need some extra bits & pieces, but can't tell you what as I have only compiled a kernel in gentoo
[06:48] <Subhuman> like bit tornado or ktorrent?
[06:49] <we2by> hi
[06:49] <TheGateKeeper> LjL: ^^
[06:49] <Rizla420> no i havent
[06:49] <j-b> is edgy already frozen ?
[06:49] <we2by> what tool can I use to convert pdf (with math symbols and images in it) to html with images??
[06:49] <Rizla420> azerus has been working out great lately
[06:49] <segfault_> siXy, buld-essentials, and kernel headers if they arent part of build essentials
[06:49] <Rizla420> good speed easy to use
[06:49] <jimmy_neutron> i need a little consoluting. what is the best possibe way to do this? - i want to be able to download from newsgroups from my linux box and share the files downloaded to my windows pcs. however, the drive i want to store the d/l files are on a usb externel hd. feel free to pm me. thx
[06:49] <Rizla420> granted, its a resource hog, but my sys can handle it
[06:50] <sholden> Is there any news on a new flash player for linux?   The server is at the hosting company. I only have ssh access to it.
[06:50] <Antioch> I am in TCSH
[06:50] <Rizla420> I wonder if it could be my isp or something
[06:50] <sholden> Whenever I need flash, I just fire up a VM of windows xp
[06:50] <we2by> what tool can I use to convert pdf (with math symbols and images in it) to html with images??
[06:50] <Rizla420> i have comcast
[06:50] <Subhuman> sholden, google "penguin swf" thats the offical adobe flash for linux blog
[06:50] <sholden> ok
[06:50] <Rizla420> actually no i have verizon dsl
[06:50] <siXy> trying to install the ati driver form the .run pacakge provided by ati - it complains: no kernel build environment
[06:50] <Subhuman> sholden, i think they said early 2007 release, but they have a working beta now, but its closed.
[06:50] <Rizla420> there it goes again, dropped all files to 0 download speed
[06:50] <Rizla420> then they all jump back to their previous speeds
[06:51] <segfault_> Firestar, yes u can, vim /etc/grub/menu.lst and find the line that starts with kernel for ur kernel and make sure it contains ur mem= option
[06:51] <quintin> I do not have a Cray to run azureus
[06:51] <LjL> siXy: (do the ati drivers provided in the repositories not work?)   anyway, give installing linux-headers-`uname -r` a try first, and then if that fails get the source
[06:51] <Firestar> oh, ok
[06:51] <Firestar> will check that quickly
[06:51] <segfault_> we2by, pdftohtml
[06:51] <TheGateKeeper> LjL: hmmm looks like I was assuming he/she would know they need the kernel source code :-)
[06:52] <siXy> LjL - thanks will try that. unfortuately i need the latest version of the fglrx driver, and the ones in the repo are not up to date yet
[06:52] <we2by> segfault_, it doesn't generate pictures and math symbols
[06:52] <jimmy_neutron> i need a little consoluting. what is the best possibe way to do this? - i want to be able to download from newsgroups from my linux box and share the files downloaded to my windows pcs. however, the drive i want to store the d/l files are on a usb externel hd. feel free to pm me. since the # is crowded
[06:52] <Firestar> segfault_, Ok, I checked the file, and all the kernel lines (4 of them) has the mem=4096m option added. But my server still only picks up ~2.7GB of RAM. Any ideas?
[06:53] <sholden> Subhuman: *sigh* heh...  i guess i can wait =/
[06:53] <sholden> VM will get me by til then
[06:54] <jimmy_neutron> anyone?
[06:54] <Rizla420> anyone have experieince ripping/burning dvds?  I just got a lightscribe burner and was wondering whether i should do my ripping/burning in win or if linux/ubuntu has some good alternatives
[06:54] <quintin> Rizla420: DVDShrink++
[06:54] <Antioch> how can I save the output of uname to a variable?
[06:54] <Rizla420> qunitin thats it?
[06:54] <quintin> Rizla420: MythTV has some copying things.  Find out what they use maybe.
[06:54] <Dr_willis> export foo = `uname`
[06:54] <Rizla420> does it rip the newer dvd's as well
[06:54] <LjL> Antioch: WHATEVERVARIABLE=`uname`
[06:54] <quintin> Rizla420: that's all I use for duping DVDs
[06:55] <Dr_willis> Antioch,  bash 101 stuff here. :P
[06:55] <Dr_willis> ok that may be bash 102
[06:55] <quintin> Rizla420: define "newer".  It's been much the same for years now
[06:55] <we2by> what tool can I use to convert pdf (with math symbols and images in it) to html with images??
[06:55] <kothz> export = bash 102 :) var = value => bash 101 :)
[06:55] <Dr_willis> Antioch,  note  the use of the backtick `   top left of the keyboard.
[06:55] <Antioch> Dr_willis yea, but I have no export commant on my system supposedly
[06:55] <Rizla420> well i've read in cdfreaks froums that the newer copy protection schemes were screwing up the older rippers
[06:55] <LjL> we2by: have you tried pdftohtml?
[06:55] <Antioch> ah
[06:55] <Antioch> Ill try that
[06:55] <Rizla420> something along those lines
[06:55] <Dr_willis> export is built into bash  as far as i know.
[06:56] <Antioch> its actually a solaris unix system
[06:56] <quintin> Rizla420: I don't know of any newer copy protection schemes.    And forums are lame! :)
[06:56] <Dr_willis> it pays big dividends to find/.read a few bash guides
[06:56] <we2by> LjL, it doesn't work with math symbols :(
[06:56] <segfault_> Firestar, cat /proc/meminfo shows only 2.7gb ?
[06:56] <Antioch> but yea, using set and the backtick it worked - I was using a single quote for the longest time
[06:56] <Antioch> Thanks!!
[06:56] <Rizla420> not the ubuntu forums, they're lifesavers in there
[06:56] <Rizla420> but then again that was before i knew about this oasis in the backwaters of the internet
[06:56] <JosefK> Antioch: you're best double-quoting the variable, or if the output has spaces in it you won't get the whole string in the variable
[06:56] <quintin> Ok, I am getting about 80kB down with bittornado downloading fedora core 6.  but I still can't max my line, which utorrent easily does!!
[06:56] <JosefK> Antioch: ie, export MYVAR="`command`"
[06:57] <ali_123> how to install proprietary codecs
[06:57] <we2by> darn, OO takes minutes to load
[06:57] <ali_123> how to install proprietary codecs?
[06:57] <quintin> ali_123: search google for win32 codec ubuntu
[06:57] <jimmy_neutron> i want to be able to download from newsgroups from my linux box and share the files d/l to my windows pcs. the drive i want to store the d/l files are on a usb externel hd. what us the most efficient way to do this?
[06:57] <Firestar> segfault_:
[06:57] <Firestar> MemTotal:      2832748 kB
[06:57] <Firestar> MemFree:       1880024 kB
[06:57] <LjL> JosefK, it works fine without the quotes here though
[06:57] <JosefK> !mp3 > ali_123
[06:57] <quintin> jimmy_neutron: samba
[06:57] <segfault_> Firestar, what kernel?
[06:57] <TheGateKeeper> Rizla420: if you are trying to kill copy protection use windows & AnyDVD, otherwise linux will be fine
[06:57] <quintin> jimmy_neutron: for a small fee, I will even configure it :">
[06:58] <Firestar> segfault_ : Linux prophecy 2.6.15-27-amd64-server #1 SMP Sat Sep 16 02:04:37 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:58] <Antioch> Dr_willis is there a way to use regular expressions or something to filter out part of the output from uname?
[06:58] <jimmy_neutron> thx quintin thats all i needed to know :)
[06:58] <LjL> Antioch: sure... what is it that you want?
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Antioch,  theres always a way
[06:58] <quintin> TheGateKeeper: Heresy!!!
[06:58] <Antioch> heh
[06:58] <Rizla420> hmm.. i'll look into it.  there arent any linux burning apps that support lightscribe yet right?
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Bash 101 stuff again. :P ok.. 102.
[06:58] <Antioch> well my server names are always NAME.domain, and I just want to keep the NAME component
[06:58] <Antioch> then plug that into export
[06:59] <Dr_willis> why not use the hostname command?
[06:59] <siXy> antioch - yes. | grep will do simple stuff
[06:59] <soheil> what do u call '< > | 'symbols in ubuntu?
[06:59] <Antioch> is there such a command?
[06:59] <siXy> for more advanced stuff google awk
[06:59] <Dr_willis> No idea.. on YOUR system...
[06:59] <TheGateKeeper> quintin: I know :-), tell me a linux equivalent of AnyDVD?
[06:59] <eurytus> DNS resolution seems to take about 3 seconds longer in Ubuntu (than debian or winxp), is there some optimization I've overlooked?
[06:59] <Dr_willis> look and see
[06:59] <Antioch> yes, there is
[06:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:59] <LjL> Antioch: uh, does uname print the nameservers?
[06:59] <LjL> Antioch: i mean the server names
[06:59] <soheil> what do u call '< > | 'symbols in ubuntu?
[06:59] <Antioch> uname print a.b.c.d and I just want a
[06:59] <segfault_> Firestar, hmm, im nnot sure, i would ask someone well versed in amd64
[07:00] <soheil> that redirect output
[07:00] <LjL> Antioch: is that the second field in "uname -a" that you mean?
[07:00] <siXy> soheil dont keep asking the same question
[07:00] <eurytus> | is the pipe, < > are input/output redirections
[07:00] <quintin> TheGateKeeper: AnyDVD is linux?  shrug.  I am just all about the DVDShrink, myself
[07:00] <Firestar> segfault_: do you know anyone that can help? I'm really struggling and I'm VERY despirate now :(
[07:00] <Antioch> no its uname -n that Im working with
[07:00] <soheil> r u gonna answer me?
[07:00] <LjL> Antioch: ok then try    uname -n | cut -d "." -f1
[07:00] <segfault_> Firestar, sry no, but i think there is an amd64 channel for ubuntu i would try there next
[07:01] <CokeNCode> jeeze why does this stupid computer keep rebooting
[07:01] <CokeNCode> bbl
[07:01] <CokeNCode> what causes a computer to reboot guys ?
[07:01] <kothz> Do you keep typing 'reboot'? :)
[07:01] <siXy> soheil - 1). someone already has 2). if you want help for free learn to be more polite
[07:01] <quintin> CokeNCode: DFU?
[07:01] <LjL> soheil: i call < an input redirect, > an output redirect and | a pipe
[07:01] <frank95com> hello
[07:01] <psynaps3> hi, i have a problem with a usb drive. I had some contents in this drive (FAT). Now after i mounted it in ubuntu and copied the contents over, it has stopped working in XP. Says, the usb stick is not formatted?
[07:01] <POVaddct> CokeNCode: bad ram?
[07:01] <Firestar> segfault_: thanks for your help! I really appreciate the time taken to look at my problem :)
[07:01] <CokeNCode> kothz lol, no ... it's a pc that someone here is using at work ... i'm the it guy
[07:01] <segfault_> Firestar, np
[07:01] <CokeNCode> ah well ... bbl
[07:01] <quintin> jimmy_neutron: Got samba setup yet?
[07:02] <Garsty> I have compiled "simple wx widgets application" in KDevelop, but when trying to run it, it says "segementation fault", exited with status 139
[07:02] <Antioch> LjL that worked, thanks! =)
[07:02] <soheil> and how to know wwhat the redirect symbols are in ubuntu?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> soheil,  you meanin the shell>
[07:02] <Garsty> does anyone have any idea what is that supposed to mean?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> soheil,  you mean in the shell?  the  > < and | symbols?
[07:02] <segfault_> soheil, plz read some bash documetation
[07:03] <probl> can someone help me with: laptop overheat in dapper ?!
[07:03] <Dr_willis> !bash
[07:03] <patrick_king> lamp
[07:03] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:03] <TheGateKeeper> quintin: off for food so back latter but tell where it says that it works on linux? http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvd.html
[07:03] <LjL> soheil, redirect symbols are "<", "<<", ">", ">>" and "|". unless you mean something else, but then please explain.
[07:03] <quintin> TheGateKeeper: I never said it did!
[07:03] <patrick_king> !lamp
[07:03] <soheil> how to read it?
[07:03] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[07:03] <JosefK> Garsty: it means you're using pointers improperly somewhere, time to learn to debug ;)
[07:03] <LjL> soheil: read it?
[07:03] <kothz> soheil: man bash
[07:03] <Antioch> Is there a command to tell you what shell you're running?
[07:03] <we2by> omg, Open office crashed!!
[07:04] <Garsty> JosefK, the program code was generated by KDevelop
[07:04] <kothz> antioch: echo $SHELL
[07:04] <POVaddct> Antioch: echo $SHELL
[07:04] <Garsty> I haven't changed it in any way
[07:04] <LjL> Antioch: try "help"
[07:04] <Antioch> thanks
[07:04] <quintin> we2by: omgz!1111
[07:04] <segfault_> Antioch, unless u changed it its prolly bash
[07:04] <Antioch> segfault_ yea
[07:05] <Antioch> do I change the defulat 7t5r5mmn
[07:05] <LjL> Antioch: well if it's bash, it's strange that you can't do "export"
[07:05] <Antioch> do I change the default by putting in a new .whatever-rc file?
[07:05] <Dr_willis> default what?
[07:05] <LjL> Antioch: hm no, i think to change your (user) default you should edit /etc/passwd...
[07:05] <Garsty> what are good IDEs, except KDevelop, for C++? I'm interested in OpenGL, SDL and wxWidgets development. It would be nice if the IDE would have a similar feature as IntelliSense in Visual Studio.
[07:05] <shylock> Hi do anyone know if there is some easy way to show movies on my tv from tv-out on my ati card without having to mess around with Xorg.conf?
[07:05] <Antioch> Im sorry, the default shell used on log-in
[07:06] <segfault_> Antioch, no use useradd
[07:06] <daurn> how can i totally reset sound config?
[07:06] <patrick_king> !python
[07:06] <Dr_willis> shylock,  not that i know of.
[07:06] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 532 kB
[07:06] <POVaddct> LjL: no, chsh is the command to change to shell
[07:06] <segfault_> shylock, i doubt such a way exists
[07:06] <lara_> ola
[07:07] <Antioch> my holy handgrenade that is
[07:07] <LjL> POVaddct, Antioch: ok. or just link /bin/sh to something else i suppose, if you want to change for all users (who have /bin/sh as their shell)...?
[07:07] <jvai> hey what ver of openvpn is in the dapper repos? i dont know cause i'm on hoary
[07:07] <crimsun> daurn: unload the driver(s), rm -f ~/.asoundrc* /etc/asound.conf /var/lib/alsa/asound.state, sync, and forcibly reboot (don't shutdown)
[07:07] <LjL> !info openvpn dapper
[07:07] <ubotu> openvpn: Virtual Private Network daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.6-1 (dapper), package size 310 kB, installed size 940 kB
[07:08] <Antioch> no, my default seems to be set as tcsh which is what I want, I was just wondering if I could change the default without making a new useraccount
[07:08] <POVaddct> LjL: linking /bin/sh to a different shell is a bad idea. many scripts rely on /bin/sh behaving like a bourne shell
[07:08] <Antioch> I agree
[07:08] <ladydoor> Antioch: yes
[07:08] <shylock> i have tried using aticonfig --force-monitor=tv and it shows a picture on the tv but i dont know how to make it the right resolution
[07:08] <daurn> crimsun: then, when i reboot, i'll have defulat config?
[07:08] <jvai> oo ok ty ubotu.. lol
[07:08] <crimsun> daurn: yes
[07:08] <shylock> also i would like to have the same pic on monitor and tv
[07:08] <daurn> how do i unload the drivers?
[07:08] <ladydoor> Antioch: sudo usermod -s tcsh (or whatever)
[07:08] <Dr_willis> shylock,  you mean 'clone' the displays
[07:08] <Antioch> I have my .tcshrc set to change my prompt variable, but my prompt isn't changing when I log-in.. Is there a way to check that the rc is actually being run when I log in?
[07:09] <ladydoor> Antioch: sudo usermod -s tcsh (or whatever) username, i mean
[07:09] <josh__> how do i install themes on kde?
[07:09] <shylock> Dr_willis:  yeahh!
[07:09] <ladydoor> josh__: #kubuntu, or kubuntu's help function...
[07:09] <totall_6_7> well i did it!!! i formated ntfs to ext3, and mounted it!!!!
[07:09] <Dr_willis> josh__,  depends on the specific theme file. thers not a single 'theme' file - they are made of 3 parts (normally)
[07:09] <josh__> thanks lady and willis
[07:09] <Dr_willis> josh__,  download the theme files. open theme manager, drag/drop onto it. is 1 way
[07:09] <JosefK> Antioch: sticking a line somewhere like 'echo hit > ~/ran.txt' usually works
[07:10] <JosefK> Antioch: if a file called 'ran.txt' appears, the config ran.
[07:10] <Antioch> Thanks
[07:11] <Maxim> Hi, i need help in fstab everything is mounted but as user i can't delete stuff on hdb1 what i have to do ??
[07:11] <siXy> does apt-get have a search function?
[07:11] <frank95com> yes
[07:11] <LjL> siXy: no, but apt-cache does
[07:11] <LjL> siXy: "apt-cache search blah"
[07:11] <Dr_willis> Maxim,  and hdb1 is what kind of drive/partition?
[07:11] <siXy> ah cheers. thats why man apt-get failed me then :)
[07:11] <Maxim> Dr_willis:  and old vfat
[07:11] <Dr_willis> !apt
[07:11] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:12] <frank95com> it's the primary slave partion 1
[07:12] <Dr_willis> Maxim,  you have to use the correct umask options.
[07:12] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[07:12] <Dr_willis> Maxim,  that url gives examples.
[07:12] <siXy> cheers - i havent used apt since rh switched to yum :/
[07:12] <frank95com> install fuse for ntfs mounting
[07:12] <Maxim> gonna see
[07:12] <Maxim> apt-get install fuse ?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> frank95com,  thats a little over kill. :P for vfat
[07:13] <LjL> siXy: don't think rh used apt even in the past, though...
[07:13] <Dr_willis> fuse is handy at times
[07:13] <Dr_willis> but not needed in this case
[07:13] <quintin> jimmy_neutron: got it yet? :)
[07:13] <stefzechef> When I unmount a CD, eject it and later reinsert it, the CD does not get mounted automatically. Nothing appears in /var/log/messages, what could be the problem?
[07:13] <shwag> does EasyUbuntu break apt-get ?
[07:14] <M_A_K> I need help with making a backup of my home directory.  I have plenty of space on an external HD so i dont need compression.  Tar doesnt work because external is fat32 and tarball will be larger than 4Gb.  I tried to use tar + split, but I got other errors.  I am trying to do a GUI drag and drop but I get errors and I have to hit skip.  Is there a command I can use at command line that will duplicate my user dir on my external HD the while preserving pe
[07:14] <quintin> stefzechef: weird.  Why unmount it?  Just eject
[07:14] <Bardamu> hello someone have skype pleas ?
[07:14] <stefzechef> eject or unmount yield the same result
[07:14] <quintin> M_A_K: man cp ; man rsync
[07:14] <frank95com> yes, i have skype
[07:14] <Dr_willis> mount the thing manyally stefzechef ?
[07:15] <stefzechef> ok will try now
[07:15] <Bardamu> frank95com,  i want to try skype
[07:15] <quintin> Bardamu: ehm... I have skype.  what's the issue.
[07:15] <ladydoor> M_A_K: what if you tar'd it a dir at a time?
[07:15] <Bardamu> and i have not contact lol
[07:15] <M_A_K> quintin : isnt cp same as gui drag n drop?
[07:15] <ibeaspecialboy> i have a problem with ubuntu install, can anyone help me?
[07:15] <lampshade> Hey Ubuntu what's shaken
[07:15] <ladydoor> M_A_K: only better
[07:15] <M_A_K> ladydoor : dont want to sit and figure out which dirs will fit into a file
[07:15] <quintin> M_A_K: I look like some kind of frikkin' guru or something?  I don't know.   Just try it!
[07:16] <Bardamu> pleas anyone can pass me his adress
[07:16] <quintin> M_A_K: There's no reason it should not work
[07:16] <Bardamu> i want to try my skype
[07:16] <totall_6_7> ibeaspecialboy: your best bet would be to ask the problem and then wait for an answer
[07:16] <lampshade> Bardamu: there is a skype test number
[07:16] <ladydoor> M_A_K: well, why are you trying to tar it?
[07:16] <Dr_willis> Bardamu,  call your home phone.. :P
[07:16] <quintin> Bardamu: My skype ID is qmriis.  You can also call echo123
[07:16] <Bardamu> thanks
[07:16] <M_A_K> I jsut want to copy everything.  I am not currently trying to tar it.
[07:17] <lampshade> yeah, echo123 was what I was thinking of
[07:17] <anemone> !
[07:17] <LjL> M_A_K: well, i think you probably *should* tar it (or something similar), to preserve permissions and all -- and filenames, possibly, since you're using FAT...
[07:17] <ladydoor> M_A_K: ok, yeah, then just copy it. cp ~ /path/to/mountpoint/of/external/hd
[07:17] <Bardamu> quintin,  can you listen me ?
[07:17] <ladydoor> M_A_K: wait
[07:17] <quintin> Bardamu: I don't hear anything.  can you hear me?
[07:17] <Bardamu> yes
[07:17] <ladydoor> M_A_K: actually, make that cp -a to preserve permissions, links, etc.
[07:17] <stefzechef> When i run 'sudo mount /dev/cdrom' the CD gets mounted correctly. So my problem is just that the CD does not get mounted automatically
[07:17] <Bardamu> i think i have a problem
[07:17] <quintin> Bardamu: are you talking?  speak up kid!
[07:18] <lampshade> you could try this easily by using echo123  it plays what you say back lol
[07:18] <frank95com> is your soud card configured correctly?
[07:18] <quintin> Bardamu: Check your sound input settings.
[07:18] <Bardamu> quintin,  headset ?
[07:18] <LjL> M_A_K: what about "apt-cache show gfslicer"
[07:18] <Bardamu> quintin,  how can i check that lol
[07:18] <quintin> Bardamu: No, you have to listen to the thunderous roar that is the laptop keyboard being pounded above the laptop microphone.
[07:18] <LjL> ladydoor: well except that with FAT32, it won't necessarily preserve much
[07:18] <quintin> Bardamu: Look at your skype input settings...
[07:18] <kothz> heck, fat32 will barely preserve the file :)
[07:18] <jvai> any1 using Glabels.. is it bettr than MS publisher in any respects?
[07:19] <quintin> kothz: *g*
[07:19] <ladydoor> LjL: aha. well, this person doesn't want to tar individual dirs and can't tar the whole thing because of the whole FAT issue...
[07:19] <LjL> ladydoor: yep, but splitting the tar somehow should work. "gfslicer" sounds like it'd be nice for that, it compresses too
[07:19] <Bardamu> quiet,  where ?
[07:19] <Bardamu> quintin,  sorry
[07:19] <we2by> omg, I need to install kde libs :(
[07:20] <Bardamu> i am new in use to skype
[07:20] <natalia> hola
[07:20] <ladydoor> LjL: cool. good luck! with that...i've gtg again
[07:20] <siXy> is there a repo i need to enable in order to install module-assistant? if so which one?
[07:20] <quintin> Bardamu: Tools > Options
[07:20] <ladydoor> !module-assistant
[07:20] <Bardamu> yes but where ?
[07:20] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2 (dapper), package size 72 kB, installed size 368 kB
[07:20] <Bardamu> i am in tools options
[07:20] <ladydoor> siXy: universe
[07:20] <Bardamu> what i change  ?
[07:20] <jvai> any1 using Glabels, for printing bussiness cards?.. is it bettr than MS publisher in any respects?
[07:20] <ladydoor> !repeate
[07:20] <Bardamu> yesterday my contacts heard me
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <Bardamu> but today i have a probleme
[07:20] <siXy> thanks
[07:20] <ladydoor> jvai: also, please use whole words.
[07:20] <Bardamu> i don't understand
[07:20] <Dr_willis> jvai,  its free? :)
[07:21] <frank95com> everything it's better than M$
[07:21] <stefzechef> Why won't ubuntu mount inserted CDs automatically, this used to work in 5.04, now it doesn't anymore in 6.06. Any idea?
[07:21] <jvai> lol.. but what else, like functionility etc...
[07:21] <quintin> frank95com: learn to spell assface
[07:21] <LjL> !ops
[07:21] <piratepenguin> is there a beta of edgy coming soon?
[07:21] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[07:21] <LjL> !language
[07:21] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:21] <quintin> jvai: I made my business cards with gimp
[07:21] <Dr_willis> !edgy
[07:21] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:21] <jvai> oo
[07:21] <frank95com> i'm not english
[07:22] <ibeaspecialboy> ok.. well i shrunk my hard drive and left 20 gigs of unformated space, then started the ubuntu live/install cd, and had it install on the unformated space. however when it was making the ext3 partition it froze at 13%, so i figured it was just a bug so i tried again and got the same result. so then i figured it was the cd so i did a check and it said it was fine.... any ideas? (i also tried to install fedora core 5 but that also f
[07:22] <ibeaspecialboy> roze on format)
[07:22] <oskude> what would be the "best/easiest" way to make kde apps look like "gnome/human theme" ?
[07:22] <piratepenguin> thanks Dr_willis
[07:22] <Seveas> oskude, using the gtk-qt-engine
[07:22] <Dr_willis> ibeaspecialboy,  that sounds like a messed up hard drive
[07:22] <oskude> Seveas, just apt-get that ?
[07:22] <ibeaspecialboy> :\
[07:22] <Seveas> oskude, first find the correct name, but yeah
[07:22] <ibeaspecialboy> the computer is only a month old
[07:22] <heXLer> Hi, my root certificates in Firefox are missing and now ff asks at every site if I want to accept a certificate because it can't check it. I already tried to reinstall ff but the missing certificates weren't fixed .. any solutions? :|
[07:23] <oskude> Seveas, roger, thanks!
[07:23] <Seveas> heXLer, try with a clean profile
[07:23] <patrick_king> !ftp
[07:23] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[07:23] <heXLer> Seveas: they are missing in a new profile too
[07:23] <patrick_king> !ftpserver
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftpserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <Seveas> heXLer, now that is odd
[07:23] <Dr_willis> ibeaspecialboy,  and that fact proves that the hd may not be bad>?
[07:23] <patrick_king> !proftpd
[07:23] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.10-27ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 351 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[07:24] <Seveas> are you sure you have an ubuntu firefox build?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> ibeaspecialboy,  try formating that  partition under windows.
[07:24] <edmundo_v> does anyone know how do I change the locale in the console? only by hand?
[07:24] <ibeaspecialboy> ok
[07:24] <edmundo_v> dpkg-reconfigure locales doesnt work anymor3e
[07:24] <Dr_willis> export locale='C'
[07:24] <heXLer> Seveas: I've get it with apt-get  the problems started with the last update
[07:24] <Dr_willis> aintit..
[07:24] <keleus> quit
[07:24] <keleus> whoops
[07:24] <keleus> sticky slash key
[07:25] <heXLer> Seveas: and in windows the certificates are working with the same profile  (profile is on a fat32 partition and used by both OS)
[07:25] <Seveas> heXLer, try pruning firefox: dpkg -P --force-depends firefox
[07:26] <Seveas> then apt-get install firefox
[07:26] <heXLer> Seveas: will try it ...
[07:27] <kothz> anyone know if someone has put together a best practices document that deals with ubuntu + fetchmail + some mta (exim?) + some imapd (cyrus?).  i mean i could hit it with the sysadmin bat, but is there an ubuntu 'standard' that I'm completely ignoring :)
[07:27] <farchord> wow compiling rocks with this new CPU of mine :D
[07:27] <patrick_king> does any one know how to install python curses and urwid
[07:28] <farchord> patrick: My guess, sudo apt-get install python or something?
[07:28] <josh__> farchord: nice ;)
[07:28] <ibeaspecialboy> ok, I created the swap and ext3 partition in partition magic and it formated perfectly fine
[07:28] <farchord> josh__: AMD Athlon 64 3800 X2 :D
[07:28] <josh__> farchord: woah :D
[07:28] <farchord> 1gb of ram
[07:28] <josh__> though i stay away from AMD's
[07:28] <farchord> almost laughable tho, considering how much ram ubuntu uses <.<
[07:29] <farchord> Your choice / loss ^
[07:29] <heXLer> Seveas: the certificates weren't installed :|   is it normal that firefox is connected with gnome-app-install Oo
[07:29] <Seveas> yes
[07:29] <josh__> When i upgrade im getting a intel conroe
[07:29] <frank95com> fantastic
[07:30] <M_A_K> LjL : I tried a similar option using split with tar
[07:30] <frank95com> conroe's power :D
[07:30] <M_A_K> Should I try doing the cp using sudo just in case or will that really mess things up?
[07:30] <josh__> conroe beats amd  :P
[07:30] <LjL> M_A_K: you said that -- i'm not sure i've understood why that didn't work. but anyway, gfslicer should be somewhat more flexible...
[07:30] <farchord> frank: yeah but I didn't have 150$ more to put on the mobo/CPU <.<
[07:31] <josh__> yeah, because AMD's are going down, down down in price
[07:31] <heXLer> Seveas: I've tried it with a new profile  but the root certificates are empty there too
[07:31] <frank95com> this is true
[07:31] <M_A_K> The process failed due to errors (in tar or reading files i think).
[07:31] <LjL> M_A_K: i don't know, it shouldn't really "mess up" too much, but i wouldn't trust backing up a unix filesystem on fat32 raw. i'd expect nasty surprises when i try to restore it....
[07:32] <eurytus> I can't set my refresh rate to above 60Hz (with the Screen Resolution configurator) and my monitor definitely supports 75Hz. How do I force 75Hz refresh?
[07:32] <josh__> eurytus: Installed drivers?
[07:32] <eurytus> why would I need to do that?
[07:32] <eurytus> I didn't for debian
[07:32] <frank95com> eurytus: i have the same problem
[07:33] <eurytus> I'm sure I could fix it by mucking around with xorg if I knew what I was doing there
[07:33] <josh__> This is ubuntu, not debian last time i checked, even though debian is ubuntu based.
[07:33] <eurytus> They should have similar capabilities at least though, right?
[07:33] <josh__> i mean ubuntu debian based lol
[07:33] <kothz> (ubuntu is debian based, rather)
[07:33] <kothz> :)
[07:33] <M_A_K> LjL : what if I tried to sudo tar cfz - /home/me | split -d 4000m file.to.tar.gz-
[07:33] <oskude> Seveas, hmm, i can only find "gtk2-engines-gtk-qt - theme engine using Qt for GTK+ 2.x" but i actually wanted "gtk look for qt", but cant find anything with apt-cache search...
[07:33] <josh__> its 1:33am, im sure to make a typo lol
[07:33] <farchord> hmmm im trying to now find on how to access my NTFS drive from ubuntu <.<
[07:34] <josh__> farchord: www.ubuntuguide.com has it ;)
[07:34] <Seveas> oskude, ah ok, then I misunderstood you -- unfortunately there is no such thing yet
[07:34] <oskude> Seveas, roger
[07:34] <farchord> josh__: Cool thanks
[07:34] <LjL> M_A_K: hm, perhaps it's just that split doesn't like pipes
[07:34] <eurytus> ubuntuguide.com is a redirect
[07:34] <josh__> yeah, but its faster then typing in the whole thing isnt it :P
[07:34] <LjL> M_A_K: it might want to know the filesize in advance, or something
[07:34] <eurytus> No, I mean, it's an ad portal
[07:34] <farchord> josh__: Gah, got one of those crappy pub search engines m8
[07:34] <farchord> wrong URL
[07:34] <M_A_K> LjL: it was working fine for a while then an error caused it to fail in the 3rd split file.
[07:34] <frank95com> On ubuntu 6.06 i've find a native support for NTFS drives and I difn't need to install nothing :confused:
[07:35] <eurytus> yeah what farchord said
[07:35] <stefg> !fuse
[07:35] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:35] <kamui> eurytus: yo gotta recnofigure X, you haven't set your monitor capabilities correctly.  Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[07:35] <WInter-Soulstice> Man, I just installed the edgy knot 3...I got problems
[07:35] <M_A_K> I just want to backup my home dir (reliably) to my external HD (FAT32 - I use it at home on windows also).
[07:35] <farchord> oh oh I dont wanna write on NTFS
[07:35] <farchord> I only wanna read
[07:35] <luckyone_> hello everyone
[07:35] <eurytus> thanks kamui
[07:35] <josh__> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[07:35] <stefg> !edgy
[07:35] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:35] <kamui> eurytus: err, xserver-xorg
[07:35] <eurytus> that's what I was forgetting
[07:35] <LjL> M_A_K: isn't it tar perhaps that's failing, and not split? maybe you have files that are only accessible to root, and tar doesn't like that?
[07:36] <M_A_K> That could be.
[07:36] <Lehti> i have a little problem: MPC doesn't detect my music collection. anybody know what to do? :(
[07:36] <josh__> read only: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[07:36] <kamui> eurytus: worst case scenario, you may have to hand edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:36] <Tonren> OK guys, hit me with a program for ripping CDs into MP3s instead of OGG, and a program for converting between OGG and MP3
[07:36] <luckyone_> I am trying to setup a media server and I want to create user acocunts so people can access it with read only access
[07:36] <frank95com> eurytus: remember to do a backup of xorg.conf before changing
[07:36] <M_A_K> so maybe I should retry the tar + split as sudo?
[07:36] <Tonren> Lehti: You are running MPD first, right?
[07:36] <luckyone_> can anyone help?
[07:36] <LjL> M_A_K: well i'd give the tar / split thing another try with sudo
[07:36] <stefg> !info grip
[07:36] <ubotu> grip: GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.1-4 (dapper), package size 440 kB, installed size 1268 kB
[07:36] <kothz> MAK: Try making a smaller file size -- 2GB ... fat32 has a 4G - 2B max
[07:36] <Tonren> stefg: Thanks!
[07:37] <scheuri> hi all
[07:37] <kamui> josh__: while you're correct that ubuntu is not debian, other than the repositories and a few simple symantics, the two systems are almost exactly the same.
[07:37] <eurytus> I set the horizontal refresh to 24-75, as that's the viable range for my monitor. The listbox in the resolution configuration dealie still only has 60hz :(
[07:37] <M_A_K> If I run tar as sudo, how do I preserve the ownership etc of the current ...
[07:38] <eurytus> err vertical refresh
[07:38] <stefg> !fixres
[07:38] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:38] <eurytus> thanks
[07:38] <scheuri> M_A_K: tar has a parameter/option...I guess its p for preserve...but check the man
[07:38] <eurytus> the ? is usually a "g" right?
[07:38] <Bardamu> quintin_,  do you hear me ?
[07:39] <M_A_K> Thanks, it looks like p will do the trick
[07:39] <kamui> eurytus: you did remember to restart X, right?  and make sure you correctly set both the verticle and horizontal refresh rates.  You could also always try the Xorg autoconfigure sudo X -configure;
[07:39] <scheuri> M_A_K: it should...:)
[07:39] <M_A_K> scheuri : yea...*should*
[07:39] <scheuri> M_A_K: I used it like 2 month ago...its a long time...;)
[07:39] <farchord> Aiite guys, Roll the drums! There's only one thing to make work in here, and ill be ready for some major fun with ubuntu!
[07:40] <farchord> But unfortunately, it's a major PITA (Pain in the ass)
[07:40] <totall_6_7> wow Seveas you must really not want people from that domain to join
[07:40] <farchord> Here comes: ATi TV Wonder Elite (PCI TV tuner)
[07:40] <farchord> I heard that card is a bitch in Linux
[07:41] <stefg> farchord: check the output of dmesg first if the hardware is already setup
[07:41] <M_A_K> So, as I understand linux (as best as I can) "Removing leading /" means that when I extract the archive, it will extract relative to current location rather than from / of the filesystem?
[07:41] <tomveens> hey
[07:41] <stefg> M_A_K: right
[07:41] <scheuri> M_A_K: that is affirmativ
[07:41] <tomveens> my gnome-panel is gone
[07:42] <M_A_K> Great, I understand "something". :)
[07:42] <eurytus> X -configure conf fails due to failure to open device "Mouse0" :(
[07:42] <M_A_K> Here goes...
[07:42] <scheuri> M_A_K: think of leaving away the c: or d: when in a directory (which will make it using the directory you are currently in
[07:42] <sque> Hi! I cannot change screen resolution. What maybe wrong?
[07:42] <Tonren> stefg: Whoa, GRIP kind of sucks!  Is there a chatroom where the devs hang out?  Do they mind people submitting patches?
[07:42] <stefg> scheuri: what's c: or d. ? :-D
[07:43] <arcade> what do I need to install to rebuild the kernel? (kubuntu 6.06)
[07:43] <eurytus> that is, the configuration generated by it does not work: sudo X -config /tmp/xorg.conf.new fails to load with error "Fatal server error: failed to initialize core devices"
[07:43] <arcade> I've installed build-essentials
[07:43] <stefg> !kernel
[07:43] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:43] <oskude> is someone allready doing this theme ? https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/human-theme-for-qt-and-kde... i would want to start/help :)
[07:43] <scheuri> stefg: dont actually know...just heard rumors it is used for paths...;)
[07:44] <arcade> stefg: Not sure whether I can check that out yet. :)  Trying, but I\m in a very limited environment
[07:44] <Tonren> stefg: Jesus christ!!!  Dude.  You should NOT be suggesting this program to people!
[07:44] <arcade> stefg: One of my problems is finding the proper slash, as I don't even have my native keyboard setting :D
[07:44] <patrick_king> !mp3
[07:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:44] <Laney> np: Marion Raven - For You I'll Die
[07:45] <stefg> arcade: are you sure you're talking to me?
[07:45] <arcade> stefg: you were the one typing !kernel to my question.
[07:45] <stefg> Ah, i see
[07:45] <Seveas> totall_6_7, indeed.  In component main, is optional. Version 3a9.8-11 (dapper), package size 19 kB, installed size 72 kB
[07:46] <brkamikaze> hey
[07:46] <Tonren> stefg: Don't you have to manually convert from WAV to MP3 with cdparanoia?
[07:46] <brkamikaze> apt is just updating my system to dapper...
[07:46] <arcade> My problem is quite simply that I need to recompile the kernel to detect the SATA controller where my boot-disk is attached :D
[07:46] <aschimedes> do you know a programm to write guitar tabs
[07:46] <brkamikaze> I'd like to know how to change the system's default encoding
[07:46] <brkamikaze> from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1
[07:46] <aschimedes> but it should be able to show me guitar tabs AND standart notation...
[07:46] <arcade> For some reason, Ubuntu decided to load the disk-driver as a MODULE, instead of in the main kernel ..
[07:46] <brkamikaze> I'm getting real ugly charachters when reading NTFS ;/
[07:47] <stefg> Tonren: grip uses cdparanoia, i assume that's what make your CD spin in circles
[07:47] <arcade> .. and that doesn't work out very well .. when the controller is .. heh .. a module .:D
[07:47] <Tonren> stefg: Turns out SoundJuicer can do MP3s.
[07:47] <arcade> ubuntu manages to install, but not boot. :)
[07:48] <brkamikaze> arcade, :P
[07:48] <brkamikaze> what controller are you using?
[07:48] <stefg> Tonren: that's true, you have to teach it to soundjuicer, and install the approprate gstreamer-plugins... But I've used grip for ages, so i don't bother about soundjuicer
[07:48] <arcade> brkamikaze: moment
[07:48] <erUSUL> !kernel > arcade
[07:49] <Tonren> stefg: Fair enough.  Grip made an overwhelmingly negative first impression on me, in only 5 minutes of use
[07:49] <arcade> 0000:00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80)
[07:49] <arcade> brkamikaze: that one.
[07:49] <brkamikaze> hmm
[07:49] <luke-jr_work> Why does Ubuntu only have a very old version of Armagetron? :\
[07:50] <brkamikaze> Luke, it's all Debian's fault :)
[07:50] <brkamikaze> try armagetron-ng
[07:50] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: aww
[07:50] <luke-jr_work> wtf is that?
[07:50] <brkamikaze> ops
[07:50] <brkamikaze> -ad
[07:50] <brkamikaze> armaggetronad
[07:50] <luke-jr_work> yes, that's what's old
[07:50] <arcade> brkamikaze: Any ideas?  Except to recompile?
[07:50] <brkamikaze> arcade, check the bot's pvt erUSUL asked to be sent to you
[07:51] <luke-jr_work> it wants to install 0.2.7
[07:51] <luke-jr_work> ancient
[07:51] <stefg> arcade: you'd need the linux-source and several dev-packages. kernel-compile out of a limited environmanet isn't a very good idea
[07:51] <ThomPhoenix> Hey, any ETA on the Edgy Beta?
[07:51] <luke-jr_work> should have 0.3.0 or at least 0.2.8
[07:51] <erUSUL> !schedule
[07:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:51] <arcade> stefg: I think I can manage. :)
[07:51] <ThomPhoenix> ubotu is a bot?
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, ;/
[07:51] <ThomPhoenix> he is :P
[07:51] <scheuri> ThomPhoenix: when its finished? ;)...somewhen october
[07:52] <arcade> stefg: I'm a very experienced unix admin as profession, but not always certain about the specific distributions and 'the right way' to do stuff :)
[07:52] <ThomPhoenix> yay :D
[07:52] <patrick_king> how do i update from 5.10 to 6.06
[07:52] <erUSUL> !upgrade
[07:52] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:52] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, apt is busy right now, when it's done I can verify that for you
[07:52] <stefg> arcade: Ah, ok... let me see if i can figure out the right apt-gets
[07:52] <Tomcat__> ThomPhoenix: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule?highlight=%28schedule%29%7C%28release%29
[07:52] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: shouldn't universe at least have the official Arma Ubuntu package?
[07:52] <arcade> stefg: I'm mostly through the KernelCustomBuild webpage now.
[07:52] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, that's community maintained
[07:53] <JamesG> Hi. I ran the software update tool this morning and it's hung while updateing the linux-image - Any suggestions? Should I just kill it and restart the process?
[07:53] <brkamikaze> and we need someone to maintain it :)
[07:53] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: isn't an official game package designed for Ubuntu considered part of the community?
[07:53] <scheuri> JamesG: aye, try that...
[07:53] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, actually, it probably was designed for Debian
[07:53] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: nope
[07:53] <patrick_king> !ssh
[07:53] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:53] <brkamikaze> and remember Ubuntu doesn't update the package versions between releases
[07:54] <erUSUL> JamesG: yes just kill the program and do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[07:54] <brkamikaze> whatever version was released with 6.06 will not change unless REALLY necessary
[07:54] <brkamikaze> new versions only on edgy
[07:54] <luke-jr_work> hmm
[07:54] <luke-jr_work> yet another reason to stick to Gentoo for desktops I guess
[07:54] <luke-jr_work> =p
[07:54] <ThomPhoenix> !edgy
[07:54] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:55] <ThomPhoenix> !schedule
[07:55] <Seveas> !commonsense > luke-jr_work
[07:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:55] <arcade> stefg: I've got a problem after the "Modifying the sources to your needs" part.  How do I build the kernel just for "my" ARCH :)  I don't understand much of the fakeroot stuff, but am on a VIA C3
[07:55] <trianglemanwins> anyone ever attempted to install radeon drivers?
[07:55] <luke-jr_work> Seveas: latest version is always better with games anyhow
[07:55] <erUSUL> luke-jr_work: gentoo has the same police new packages only in the inestable version
[07:55] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, too bad gentoo is VERY slow to install and maintain
[07:56] <brkamikaze> erUSUL, but at least you can move to unstable and get updates all the time
[07:56] <stefg> arcade: sudo apt-get install linux-source kernel-package is the minimum, then you'd the ncurses-dev for being able to configure the kernel with the ncurses-interface
[07:56] <luke-jr_work> erUSUL: you can also mix stable and unstable
[07:56] <erUSUL> brkamikaze: you can upgrade toedgy nobody will stop you
[07:56] <Seveas> luke-jr_work, but with gentoo you only get unstable ;)
[07:57] <trianglemanwins> anyone ever attempted to install radeon drivers?
[07:57] <brkamikaze> Seveas, not really
[07:57] <brkamikaze> that's fedora :P
[07:57] <luke-jr_work> Seveas: the only thing "unstable" about my desktop is the radeon driver
[07:57] <arcade> stefg: For some reason the linux-source just dropped a tarball into /usr/src .. should I just tar xvjf it
[07:57] <scheuri> by the way...does anyone know of a repo with samba 3.0.23c?
[07:57] <arcade> ? :)
[07:57] <zaggynl> anyone knows a linux IM client which has supports audio conversations?
[07:57] <luke-jr_work> and I doubt Ubuntu would be any different in that area =p
[07:57] <brkamikaze> with gentoo, you only have to remove the "~" from "~x86" and you're on stable
[07:57] <erUSUL> trianglemanwins: radeon drivers comes with ubuntu
[07:57] <stefg> arcade: VIA C3 counts as 686, but i think there's a special config option for that as well
[07:57] <brkamikaze> arcade, I suppose
[07:57] <luke-jr_work> zaggynl: there's a developmental Psi with Jingle support
[07:58] <arcade> untaring. :)
[07:58] <scheuri> arcade: if you need kernel sources for an install...have you installed kernel headers?
[07:58] <zaggynl> luke-jr_work, cool thanks for the info
[07:58] <brkamikaze> I think something nice for ubuntu would be unstable repositories, where packages could be tested all the time
[07:58] <erUSUL> trianglemanwins: no need to install them just choose ati in the 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[07:58] <arcade> scheuri: Uhmm... the headers arent included in the source?!
[07:58] <brkamikaze> even after a stable release
[07:58] <stefg> arcade: http://ubuntustudio.com/wiki/index.php/Dapper:Vanilla_Kernel_With_Realtime_Preemption might help, you'll know where to follow, and where not
[07:58] <brkamikaze> it would be even easier to release a new version since the packages are being tested for a while
[07:58] <arcade> scheuri: I need the kernel sources, to rebuild a kernel .. i would hope the kernel headers are included in the kernel source...
[07:58] <scheuri> arcade: well, I am just asking since...if you need sources for an installation of another software the headers are mostly sufficent
[07:59] <scheuri> arcade: ah sorry....my bad...
[07:59] <erUSUL> brkamikaze: there are unstable repos )edgy repos)
[07:59] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: I'm working on an OS similar to Gentoo but with a p2p system to do distributed compiling to achieve binary-OS speed
[07:59] <brkamikaze> erUSUL, I mean ever-unstable repos
[07:59] <brkamikaze> and edgy package versions are already frozen ;/
[07:59] <luke-jr_work> erUSUL: you can't use packages from them in a stable OS
[07:59] <M_A_K> scheuri : so far so good.  I have 2 files so far 3.9G and a 2.8G and growing.
[07:59] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, :O
[07:59] <brkamikaze> nice
[07:59] <scheuri> M_A_K: wow...backuping?
[07:59] <arcade> scheuri: My boot-disk SATA controller is recognized by the installer, but not after reboot :)  It's compiled as a module(!)
[07:59] <arcade> :)
[07:59] <M_A_K> Yes.
[08:00] <scheuri> arcade: ouch...
[08:00] <stefg> arcade: then the module needs to go to the initramfs to be included in the initrd
[08:00] <arcade> scheuri: So, I've booted with a CD, mounted the boot-disk, chrooted into it, and currently I'm apt-getting into the chrooted environment. :)  AAAAAND, for the first time in my life, I've got a GUI when doing such hacks :)
[08:00] <brkamikaze> arcade, at least you will have something to do; that "just works" stuff ends up getting boring :P
[08:00] <erUSUL> arcade: the fact that is amodule has nothin to do with it failing that's why there is an initrd.img
[08:00] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: distributed package repository too are in the plans, such that you could add JoeBob's repository and it provides a "JoeBobPatch" USE-flag-equivalent for base packages ;)
[08:00] <narma> hello, which is the best burning program into ubuntu ?
[08:00] <scheuri> :)
[08:00] <luke-jr_work> narma: dd?
[08:01] <arcade> erUSUL: Okay?  Tell me more. :)
[08:01] <brkamikaze> narma, don't ask for "the best" since nobody agrees on "the best" :P
[08:01] <brkamikaze> and dd is indeed very good
[08:01] <brkamikaze> but I prefer k3b
[08:01] <stefg> !best
[08:01] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:01] <arcade> brkamikaze: Not while installing for my aunt, which I'm curerntly doing. :)
[08:01] <M_A_K> I second k3b
[08:01] <dehvokahn> i third k3b
[08:01] <Seveas> i hate k3b
[08:01] <brkamikaze> arcade, hmm
[08:01] <scheuri> lol
[08:01] <luke-jr_work> I fourth k3b
[08:01] <yemu> k3b or gnomebaker
[08:02] <erUSUL> arcade: just pointing out that if it fails to recognize your controler it is not becouse is a module.
[08:02] <kothz> bah k3b sucks. :)
[08:02] <narma> brkamikaze and luke-jr_work , ok thanks I'll take a look to dd
[08:02] <luke-jr_work> eww, gnome
[08:02] <Seveas> luke-jr_work, that would be k4b :
[08:02] <brkamikaze> Seveas, what do you use?
[08:02] <luke-jr_work> narma: man dd
[08:02] <brkamikaze> narma, it is not recommended to try it before k3b
[08:02] <brkamikaze> since it requires a bit of study
[08:02] <brkamikaze> and doesn't have a gui :P
[08:02] <Seveas> brkamikaze, rightclick on an iso, select "burn to cd"
[08:02] <luke-jr_work> it doesn't do filesystems either
[08:02] <arcade> erUSUL: Well, when booting from the CD it recognizes it.  When trying to boot with a rescue root=/dev/sda1, it doesn't manage to load the kernel module before spitting out that /dev/sda1 isn't valid.
[08:03] <arcade> erUSUL: GRUB loads up to stage 1.5, before halting, after the install
[08:03] <brkamikaze> Seveas, what do you do if you did not prepare an ISO before the burning?
[08:03] <Seveas> good question
[08:03] <erUSUL> arcade: then it is a grub problem, isn't it?
[08:03] <narma> brkamikaze, ok... very funny ;) so I know gnomebaker but is there another one ? (K3B is for KDE isn't it ?)
[08:03] <Seveas> wouldn't know, only things I burned recently were Ubuntu .iso files
[08:03] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm.. I just got myself a AMD64 processor... the question now is that, if I install it, is there a way to do a "dist-upgrade" to get only packages compiled for the 64-bit?
[08:04] <farchord> k so anyone knows a driver for the TV wonder elite TV tuner? lol
[08:04] <brkamikaze> narma, K3B is for kde; you can try gcombust I think
[08:04] <farchord> ubuntu doesn't seem to have found it
[08:04] <arcade> erUSUL: Not when thinking about it _combined_ with the 'rescue root' error.
[08:04] <luke-jr_work> narma: KDE owns
[08:04] <erUSUL> brkamikaze: i us nautilus and it works quite well
[08:04] <brkamikaze> at least I've heard of some "gcombust" but never tried
[08:04] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, I do agree
[08:04] <arcade> erUSUL: But you're better at Ubuntu than me, so please correct me if I've assumed wrong.
[08:04] <brkamikaze> but I'm not KDE or GNOME zealot
[08:04] <brkamikaze> sometimes I use KDE, sometimes GNOME
[08:05] <brkamikaze> tough KDE's vfs infrastructure completely beats GNOME's
[08:05] <Captain_Redbeard> anyone?
[08:05] <Seveas> gnome vd kde discussions elsewhere please
[08:05] <Seveas> this channel is for support
[08:05] <brkamikaze> too bad nobody does themes like Clearlooks or Ubuntulooks for KDE ;/
[08:05] <Seveas> and busy enough without desktop wars
[08:05] <dehvokahn> is there a way to check if i'm running the most current NVIDIA drivers?
[08:05] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, open media:/cdrom on KDE]
[08:05] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: Plastik is nice, but what does Kubuntu come with
[08:05] <luke-jr_work> ?
[08:05] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, lipstik
[08:05] <Seveas> dehvokahn, check on the website what the latest is and see if you're running that
[08:06] <erUSUL> arcade: i diidn't quite understood this " When trying to boot with a rescue root=/dev/sda1," how did you boot into rescue mode root=/dev/sda1
[08:06] <erUSUL> ??
[08:06] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, media:/cdrom presents you with the .wav files and folders with all encodings configured plus some other extras :)
[08:06] <JamesG> Hm
[08:06] <brkamikaze> and they're already renamed according to CDDB's info
[08:06] <JamesG> My update is still hanging.. while running update-initramfs
[08:06] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: indeed, but that should be done at a lower level
[08:06] <M_A_K> What is the advantage (if any) to installing kubuntu then synaptic'ing gnome vs other way around?
[08:06] <hardisk2002> Hi, where is the french canal please
[08:07] <josh_> french canal?
[08:07] <zaggynl> !french
[08:07] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:07] <dehvokahn> Seveas, but how do i check on my system what driver i am using?
[08:07] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, that's the lowest level "donable" for now ;/
[08:07] <hardisk2002> In god french :D thanks
[08:07] <zaggynl> np :)
[08:07] <brkamikaze> erUSUL, I love kioslaves
[08:07] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: not quite, FUSE has a nice KIO wrapper
[08:07] <Seveas> dehvokahn, did you manually install it or are you using ubuntu packages?
[08:07] <erUSUL> dehvokahn: how did you installed the driver?
[08:07] <luke-jr_work> it's a decent workaround
[08:08] <arcade> erUSUL: Well .. uhm .. by giving grub the command?
[08:08] <arcade> erUSUL: Or doesn't that work by default in ubuntu?
[08:08] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm.. I just got myself a AMD64 processor... the question now is that, if I install it, is there a way to do a "dist-upgrade" to get only packages compiled for the 64-bit?
[08:08] <erUSUL> arcade: so you get to the grub console... why did you said that it hangs at 1.5 stage?
[08:08] <dehvokahn> Seveas, i've been following the guide on the unofficial ubuntu starter guide
[08:09] <we2by> what is the gnome pdf viewer called?
[08:09] <Seveas> Captain_Redbeard, to move from 32 to 64 bit, you have to reinstall
[08:09] <bretzel> !twin
[08:09] <ubotu> twin: a Text mode WINdow environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-1 (dapper), package size 424 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[08:09] <arcade> erUSUL: I get the grub console while booting from the CD, not when booting from the HDD.
[08:09] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, that's beyond my current knowledge :P
[08:09] <arcade> erUSUL: Which by the way is a very good point on your half
[08:09] <dehvokahn> i used sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[08:09] <farchord> haha.... copying file 667 of 36144 :D
[08:09] <arcade> erUSUL: Which means I don't even get the grub console ...
[08:09] <arcade> erUSUL: And thus it's a grub error, not a kernel error.
[08:09] <arcade> dang.
[08:09] <arcade> i'm barking up the wrong tree.
[08:10] <kothz> we2by: gpdf
[08:10] <brkamikaze> farchord, =p
[08:10] <Seveas> dehvokahn, ok, then look in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/ for the version
[08:10] <stefg> Captain_Redbeard: the 64-bit ubuntu is a PITA, just because a lot of softawre isn't available for 64-bit up to now... codecs and flash, for instance. So run 32bit and be happy
[08:10] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: basically, it lets you mount kioslaves
[08:10] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, too bad it requires mounting ;/
[08:10] <luke-jr_work> stefg: you mean Ubuntu doesn't have the software compiled for 64-bit.
[08:10] <brkamikaze> kioslaves let you do it without being root :)
[08:10] <luke-jr_work> stefg: virtually all software is available/functional in 64-bit
[08:10] <arcade> farchord: as I've already been called a cynic today, I walk towards it, lifts my hind leg, and pees.
[08:10] <dehvokahn> Seveas, excellent, thank you!
[08:11] <erUSUL> arcade: when you use the grub from the cd to boot your hd you have to pass the initrd parameter so thekernel can use the module to setup the disks i supose
[08:11] <Seveas> luke-jr_work, no, he means that adobe and microsoft suck and don't do 64bit properly yet
[08:11] <Seveas> and thus ubuntu suffers when it needs bits from them
[08:11] <LjL> !language
[08:11] <farchord> arcade: hahahaha
[08:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:11] <arcade> farchord: You got the joke?  I'm impressed.
[08:11] <farchord> I have to admit, ubuntu is cool.... now if only I could make my TV tuner under it
[08:11] <luke-jr_work> Seveas: Nobody needs anything from Adobe or MS
[08:11] <Llewxam> um can anyone tell me how to install missing screensavers?
[08:11] <farchord> *work under it
[08:11] <Seveas> luke-jr_work, people want flash and windows media codecs
[08:12] <arcade> erUSUL: That's a very good point
[08:12] <Seveas> LjL, chicken!
[08:12] <luke-jr_work> want != need
[08:12] <Seveas> luke-jr_work, ack
[08:12] <luke-jr_work> Flash and WM codecs must die
[08:12] <brkamikaze> :O
[08:12] <Seveas> luke-jr_work, ack again
[08:12] <LjL> Seveas, :-P
[08:12] <stefg> luke-jr_work: the problem is that we're still dependant on some closed-source stuff for getting our daily work done, but that's not available for the 64bit arch in some cases. It's not ubuntus fault, it's the win-compatibility
[08:12] <Onbir> I don't get this, really.
[08:12] <arcade> erUSUL: But .. what can be the reason for grub failing to load the menu.lst in the first place?
[08:12] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, too bad at least 50% of the web publishers don't agree with you
[08:12] <luke-jr_work> stefg: who is?
[08:13] <stefg> w32codecs and flash are the most painful
[08:13] <Onbir> Seveas, can I talk to you in PM?
[08:13] <babyboy_> Hey
[08:13] <Seveas> Onbir, if you think it'll be useful, sure
[08:13] <babyboy_> How do i uninstall a debian package please?
[08:13] <Onbir> Okay.
[08:13] <soon> hi folks! Looking at youtube.com ... I have picture but no sound, although system sounds and CD-playback work fine .... any suggestions?
[08:13] <Seveas> babyboy_, apt-get remove packagename_here
[08:13] <farchord> soon: Blame Adobe for that
[08:13] <Seveas> soon, yes, slap adobe
[08:13] <babyboy_> Thanks you seveas Ill try now :)
[08:13] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, great for you :>
[08:14] <farchord> soon: We're stuck with Flash 7 on linux, when Windows/MacOSX are on 9
[08:14] <erUSUL> arcade: i do not know, sorry... if the one in the live cd can i can't see why the one in the hd don't (assuming they are the same grub version)
[08:14] <Ketsuban> For some reason Rhythmbox refuses to play music. I doubleclick on the file in Rhythmbox and it just sits there at 0:00.
[08:14] <soon> I tried slapping adobe - they flinch, but theres no sound !
[08:14] <arcade> erUSUL: it's kubuntu 6.06
[08:14] <brkamikaze> Ketsuban, apt-get remove rhythmbox
[08:14] <TheGateKeeper> soon: yep it's probable using flash 9 & linux only uses 7 at the moment
[08:14] <brkamikaze> I hat that app ;/
[08:14] <scheuri> soon: well, for me it works...but...uhmm...win32codecs installed?
[08:14] <scheuri> youtube works for me...
[08:14] <erUSUL> Ketsuban: did you installed the gstreamer plugins ??
[08:14] <farchord> imo I wonder if installing Mozilla firefox on Wine (win32 version) and installing flash on it would work
[08:14] <Ketsuban> I installed the gstreamer plugins.
[08:14] <soon> Is that the problem? Version 7 vs. 9 ? ... win32codecs ... I'll check
[08:14] <luke-jr_work> websites should be seen, not heard
[08:15] <brkamikaze> Seveas, :P
[08:15] <soon> my other machine (amd64) is not going ANYWHERE flash wise !
[08:15] <stefg> farchord: that's the usual resort
[08:15] <brkamikaze> what gtk2 alternatives do I have to Rhythmbox?
[08:15] <luke-jr_work> farchord: why don't you just install IE?
[08:15] <Seveas> brkamikaze, seriously. Lots of new users would do anything people say in here so we don't tolerate destructive advic
[08:15] <Seveas> e
[08:15] <brkamikaze> Seveas, ok
[08:15] <TheGateKeeper> soon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[08:15] <erUSUL> brkamikaze: banshee ??
[08:15] <LjL> brkamikaze, dunno, beep media player?
[08:15] <farchord> luke-jr_work: cuz firefox is less of a pain?
[08:16] <brkamikaze> I'll try bmp then
[08:16] <TheGateKeeper> soon: http://en.jakilinux.org/linux/ubuntu/kubuntu-606-on-athlon-64/
[08:16] <brkamikaze> banshee according to the site is more suited to audio organizing than to playback
[08:16] <luke-jr_work> farchord: Flash isn't
[08:16] <brkamikaze> currently I'm stuck with xmms :P
[08:16] <soon> TheGateKeeper ... thats all dumbed down 32bit flash stuff on 64 bit :-(
[08:16] <Samuli^> is the 64bit version even that much faster?
[08:17] <LjL> brkamikaze: well that's similar to amarok then i suppose... but all in all, all those non-winamp-like players end up being more suited to organizing than playing, imho
[08:17] <farchord> luke-jr_work: I'll see a bit later about that, flash is fun, but.... dunno if it's worth all this hassle
[08:17] <erUSUL> brkamikaze: listen ?? Ex Falso??
[08:17] <TheGateKeeper> soon: it's what you have to live with until they sort it all out
[08:17] <brkamikaze> I love amaroK
[08:17] <farchord> Samuli^: I'm on it atm. Not really.
[08:17] <farchord> I mean, it is faster, but not worth reformatting imo
[08:17] <Samuli^> farchord, ok.
[08:17] <brkamikaze> farchord, it's faster if the memory is aligned
[08:18] <brkamikaze> since not always it happens... ;/
[08:18] <optimusprime> how do you restart the xserver?
[08:18] <luke-jr_work> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[08:18] <erUSUL> optimusprime: Crtl + Alt + backspace
[08:18] <luke-jr_work> bye
[08:18] <stefg> optimusprime: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:18] <brkamikaze> :O
[08:18] <mypapit> ?????????~?????
[08:18] <brkamikaze> stefg, that restarts gdm not X
[08:19] <stefg> brkamikaze: what actually most people want, if the ask to restart
[08:19] <erUSUL> brkamikaze: well, it does both afaics
[08:19] <luke-jr_work> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is faster
[08:19] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, agreed
[08:19] <luke-jr_work> unless you disable it like I do
[08:19] <soon> I'm not having any luck with the win32codecs finding it in synaptic .... a repository thing I suspect.
[08:20] <stefg> !repos
[08:20] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:20] <luke-jr_work> I pressed C-A-B too often accidentally
[08:20] <brkamikaze> soon, you need multiverse
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> soon: hang on...
[08:20] <ompaul> luke-jr_work, faster is not always good, in fact usually it is not good
[08:20] <gnomefreak> soon: thats because they are not in repos
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !win32codecs
[08:20] <scheuri> soon: ah...the win32codecs are hard to get...;)....check !restricted
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <Volvo> Bill Clinton told the Labour conference to get into Ubuntu.. Eh   Source:   http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5388182.stm
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[08:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:20] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs > soon
[08:20] <erUSUL> !seveas > soon
[08:20] <stefg> !libdvdcss
[08:20] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> soon:
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> that is what you want ^^^^
[08:21] <Ketsuban> Banshee wouldn't play either.
[08:21] <kothz> check out Automatix for w32codecs
[08:21] <stefg> ugly habbit to use debain packages...
[08:21] <brkamikaze> Ketsuban, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[08:21] <Jack_Sparrow> kothz: Bad bad bad
[08:21] <M_A_K> Is there an easier command than rm -R when the tree has many many many folders and files?
[08:21] <scheuri> stefg: uhmm....why? dapper is all debian packages...
[08:21] <M_A_K> Faster I mean
[08:21] <Ketsuban> brkamikaze: Did that already.
[08:21] <Jack_Sparrow> kothz: Worst thing you can do to your PC
[08:21] <brkamikaze> M_A_K, faster than rm? you're kidding, right? :P
[08:22] <sureshot> hey does ubuntu use a registry like windows does
[08:22] <M_A_K> Like a deltree or something?
[08:22] <arcade> erUSUL: Apparantly this motherboard works perfeclty with 5.11 .. I'll try that tomorrow :)
[08:22] <brkamikaze> I've never seen something faster than rm
[08:22] <TheGateKeeper> kothz: see my reply above which is much easier & safer
[08:22] <erUSUL> Ketsuban: i think the problem is that you do not have the apropiate gstreamer plgins installed. do you have mutiverse enabled have you instaled plugins -ugly -bad and -good
[08:22] <luke-jr_work> sureshot: /etc
[08:22] <arcade> erUSUL: .. according to google :)
[08:22] <Ketsuban> erUSUL: as I've said thrice now, yes.
[08:22] <brkamikaze> sureshot, GNOME does explicitly
[08:22] <brkamikaze> sureshot, to edit it install gconf2-editor
[08:22] <soon> Im getting there TheGateKeeper
[08:22] <sureshot> so like windows if you install to much junk does ubuntu slow down like windows 95 98 xp 2000 ect
[08:23] <TheGateKeeper> soon: :-)
[08:23] <ompaul> sureshot, no
[08:23] <brkamikaze> sureshot, no way
[08:23] <ompaul> sureshot, try it and find out
[08:23] <raul> wenas
[08:23] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: Windows slows down from the minute you install it
[08:23] <raul> alguien sabe hackear webs?
[08:23] <eracc> M_A_K, deletion speed is more determined by the file system used than by rm.
[08:23] <optimusprime> enabling transparency......does that minimize the CPU workload and the Memory?
[08:23] <sureshot> i know i liked this os for some reason hehehe my windows box needs reinstalled again
[08:23] <shinx> hello, does so. runs the engage dock on ubuntu (gnome) ?
[08:23] <ompaul> !es
[08:23] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:23] <erUSUL> !es
[08:23] <M_A_K> eracc : can you elaborate?
[08:23] <erUSUL> auch!!
[08:24] <luke-jr_work> optimusprime: transparency uses CPU, obviously
[08:24] <sureshot> jack_sparrow off topic i am down in the back this week and to top it off i have pnewmonia
[08:24] <eracc> M_A_K, some file systems handle delete operations faster than others. (file system meaning ext3, reiser, etc.)
[08:24] <brkamikaze> Ketsuban, dpkg -l gstreamer0.10-plugins-{good,bad,ugly}
[08:24] <sureshot> i hate installing windows to many driver disks
[08:24] <shinx> nobody?:(
[08:24] <M_A_K> OK.
[08:25] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: Get well my friend
[08:25] <brkamikaze> see if all of them show a version installed
[08:25] <eracc> M_A_K, I don't know the benchmarks I just know that is true.
[08:25] <sureshot> i hope do have appt with a seorgon nov 7
[08:26] <brkamikaze> HeavyThinker, pray to god too
[08:26] <brkamikaze> he might help you :P
[08:26] <Symbolizer> hi
[08:26] <brkamikaze> hi
[08:26] <luke-jr_work> we're not merciful on IRC
[08:26] <soon> hmmm Installed w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb and restarted Firefox ... still no sound
[08:26] <sureshot> jack_sparrow is there anyway to turn off the lines that say who logs in and who logs out of the channel
[08:26] <M_A_K> I tried a sudo cp -dpR source target and got... cp: cannot create symbolic link `/media/MIKE\'S HD/LaptopBackup/knichel/Desktop/06-07': Operation not permitted  What is this telling me?
[08:26] <HeavyThinker> brkamikaze: awww, but irc is practically a religion!
[08:27] <Symbolizer> whenm i install ubuntu 6.06 + Lilo i wont get dual boot. I have to fixmbr with windows xp recovery-disc + at the ubuntu installation it wont ask me to create a user :\
[08:27] <luke-jr_work> HeavyThinker: IRC is a protocol
[08:27] <Ketsuban> brkamikaze: all three are installed.
[08:27] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: Yes.. what irc client are you using
[08:27] <Symbolizer> It did work with the older version
[08:27] <brkamikaze> Ketsuban, weird then
[08:27] <brkamikaze> try xmms
[08:27] <brkamikaze> that surely works
[08:27] <TheGateKeeper> soon: what is the url?
[08:27] <sureshot> jack_sparrow konversation
[08:27] <lupine_85> xmms++
[08:27] <Symbolizer> So I basicly gets a ubuntu-version which i cant login too and my windows p partition is useless
[08:27] <brkamikaze> I like xine best than gstreamer
[08:27] <luke-jr_work> mpd++
[08:27] <soon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgHfq0epSJg
 brkamikaze: awww, but irc is practically a religion! <-- then pray to ChanServ
[08:28] <HeavyThinker> luke-jr_work: correct. but there are some who worship irc...
[08:28] <brkamikaze> Seveas, agreed
[08:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Let me find it.. one sec
[08:28] <luke-jr_work> HeavyThinker: so? doesn't change reality
[08:28] <HeavyThinker> Seveas: haha good idea - my original point was there are too many acronyms around (dri,git,irc,rfc)
[08:28] <luke-jr_work> soon: http://videodownloader.net/get/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyoutube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DXgHfq0epSJg
[08:29] <Onbir> Guys, what else operators are here on Ubuntu? Seveas is a bit... unfriendly. I am trying to get me unbanned here, in a friendly conversation, but he simply doesn't believe me. He thinks I'm lying!
[08:29] <HeavyThinker> luke-jr_work: correct. now back to the topic.. ubuntu.
[08:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Settings, configure, chat window check the box... hide join.part
[08:29] <Seveas> Onbir, /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list
[08:29] <luke-jr_work> Onbir: you're quite obviously not banned if you're talkign here
[08:29] <sureshot> ko
[08:29] <Seveas> luke-jr_work, he's not far away from being banned though
[08:29] <Onbir> luke-jr_work: In the offtopic channel :P
[08:29] <Onbir> ....
[08:30] <Onbir> God.. whatever I do, i ruin it for myself. I can only say to you, Seveas, you gotta believe me.
[08:30] <habeeb> Hello, Im having a serious problem. I cant use the u of my keyboard. Before the previous reboot, I would get this problem, but if I installed a new keyboard layout it would get fixed. Now it doesnt. (I now paste the letter u to write :/ )
[08:30] <luke-jr_work> habeeb: maybe hardware?
[08:30] <habeeb> I thoght it was a shortcut problem, but nothing is binded to u
[08:30] <soon> luke-jnr_work what the heck is a flv player?
[08:30] <habeeb> luke-jr_work: no way, like I said, I co  you, Seveas, you gotta believe me.
[08:30] <habeeb> 21:30 < habeeb> Hello, Im having a serious problem. I cant use the u of my
[08:30] <habeeb>                 keyboard. Before the previous reboot, I would get this problem,
[08:30] <luke-jr_work> soon: mplayer?
[08:30] <habeeb>                 but if I installed a new keyboard layout it would get fixed.
[08:30] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: Did you get that?
[08:30] <habeeb>                 Now it doesnt. (I now paste the letter u to write :/ )
[08:30] <habeeb> damn!
[08:31] <barry> is this the ubuntu channel
[08:31] <Onbir> *sigh*
[08:31] <sureshot> jack_sparrow thanks alot man now i can read better my eyes are not that great thanks
[08:31] <Ketsuban> No, this is the Microsoft lovers channel.
[08:31] <barry> my god i actually got ubutu working
[08:31] <Symbolizer> What's wrong when the ubuntu-installlation wont ask me to create a user?
[08:31] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: Yes and Welcome
[08:31] <Seveas> barry, congratulations!
[08:31] <soon> luke-jnr_work : yes movie player
[08:31] <barry> even my Wireless ra0 works
[08:31] <Jack_Sparrow> cool
[08:31] <HedgeMage> yay, barry :D
[08:31] <Seveas> Symbolizer, did you do 'oem install'?
[08:31] <luke-jr_work> soon: mplayer
[08:31] <soon> mplayer will play the flv file?
[08:31] <Symbolizer> Seveas, Yeah
[08:31] <erUSUL> Symbolizer: maybe you installed in oem mode??
[08:31] <sureshot> brb
[08:31] <barry> its great, ive been enlightened to a totaly new environment
[08:31] <luke-jr_work> soon: yes
[08:31] <HeavyThinker> barry: mmm, first distro i've tried to support my rt2500 wireless out-of-the-box
[08:31] <Symbolizer> oh
[08:31] <Ketsuban> ESD seems to be my problem.
[08:31] <soon> great I'll try it
[08:32] <Seveas> Symbolizer, don't do that if you don't know what you are doing
[08:32] <barry> i just set dhcp servers
[08:32] <barry> and connect
[08:32] <Symbolizer> Seveas, ok :) thanks
[08:32] <barry> activate
[08:32] <luke-jr_work> ...set dhcp servers? wtf?
[08:32] <brkamikaze> Ketsuban, if everything else fails, try mpg321
[08:32] <brkamikaze> or mpg123
[08:32] <barry> its great how irc is preinstalled by GNOME on ubuntu
[08:32] <Seveas> luke-jr_work, i assume "set the card to use dhcp" ;)
[08:32] <barry> DHCP settings
[08:33] <sureshot> back
[08:33] <M_A_K> Has anybody ever gotten a Linksys WUSB54GSC usb wireless nic working under 6.06?
[08:33] <soon> luke-jnr_work well actually I have totem player
[08:33] <edmundo_v> does anyone here uses utf8 on the console with a language that has accents?
[08:33] <eracc> Hmmm, clamav and dspam on 6.06.1 are both older versions than I have been running already. Is there some place where essential utilities like these are kept current for the *buntus?
[08:33] <barry> i just keeep looking up the WIKI for every operation
[08:33] <brkamikaze> edmundo_v, I do
[08:33] <sureshot> if you dont know what the outcome or how to do something please ask here someone here will find out save you a lot of greeff
[08:33] <brkamikaze> and I dislike it ;/
[08:34] <barry> im using a net gear router
[08:34] <barry> complete compatibility
[08:34] <brkamikaze> how can I use ISO-8859-1 as the default encoding here instead of UTF-8?
[08:34] <sureshot> barry is that a wireless router
[08:34] <barry> ya
[08:34] <brkamikaze> I can't interoperate with windoze with UTF-8 ;/
[08:34] <sureshot> i have one it works fine
[08:34] <barry> 108mbps wireless g
[08:34] <edmundo_v> brkamikaze, and it works on the shell?
[08:35] <marshall> how do you know if you have a multicore processor if you arent on a multicore kernel?
[08:35] <eracc> IIRC I had built dspam from source but found a package for clamav (for Mandriva). I need to make sure I can get the latest before I replace my server's Mandriva with Ubuntu server.
[08:35] <erUSUL> edmundo_v: gnome-terminal or the linux consoles at crtl + alt Fn ??
[08:35] <brkamikaze> edmundo_v, I want to switch to ISO-8859-1
[08:35] <barry> can you join any channel through this
[08:35] <sureshot> i dont know if mine will do 108 i will have to look that up my card is a 54mps
[08:35] <barry> ah its 54
[08:35] <edmundo_v> erUSUL, the linux consoles
[08:35] <barry> no harm
[08:36] <barry> ubuntu software is goign to be th efun one
[08:36] <edmundo_v> erUSUL, for brazilian portuguese it only works properly with ISO-8859-1
[08:36] <eracc> Hrm, I see a ton of *buntu channels. Is there one more dedicated to server questions like mine?
[08:37] <barry> i live in Ireland and nobody even knows ubuntu
[08:37] <erUSUL> edmundo_v: i do. i'm spanish and i can use accents and dieresis
[08:37] <barry> are people living in holes
[08:37] <erUSUL> edmundo_v: but do not ask me why ;)
[08:37] <barry> i wouldnt give up until i got it working
[08:38] <barry> whats a good place to start off with ubuntu
[08:38] <barry> commands, etc, software
[08:38] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[08:39] <brkamikaze> Who knows how to banish UTF-8 from that "Default Charset" list?
[08:39] <barry> thanks Jack
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[08:39] <Seveas> brkamikaze, take a timemachine to the last century
[08:39] <brkamikaze> I wanna use ISO-8859-1 so I can read accented texts without ugly diamonds in the middle ;/
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: What are you interests so we can nudge you in the right direction?
[08:39] <brkamikaze> phpBB2 with the pt-br translation gets REALLY ugly
[08:39] <marshall> how do you know if you have a multicore processor if you arent on a multicore kernel?
[08:39] <brkamikaze> and I need to transfer my site's database to windows when my father is going to use Windows
[08:40] <edmundo_v> brkamikaze, http://ffmeyer.schtuff.com/f%C3%B3rum_ubuntu_linux_exibir_t%C3%B3pico_iso_8859_1_no_dapper_final
[08:40] <brkamikaze> the accented words on the site become 2 unrelated charactersw
[08:40] <barry> oh good question......is thre anyway to have msn messenger on UBUNTU
[08:40] <Seveas> brkamikaze, then that's a bug in phpBB2 --- it should send along the correct headers to indicate charset
[08:40] <brkamikaze> barry, wine
[08:40] <M_A_K> Well ppl, I gotta go get my kids off the bus.  Thanks for being so supportive.  L8R...
[08:40] <kothz> barry: use gaim :)
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> gaim
[08:40] <Seveas> barry, applications  internet  gaim
[08:40] <eracc> barry, kopete or Gaim
[08:40] <Seveas> (or kopete, or amsn, or bitlbee)
[08:40] <barry> cool thansk really helpful support chat
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Sure eracc be different  :)
[08:40] <brkamikaze> Seveas, When I tell firefox to use ISO-8859-1, it seems to ignore me, because it reloads the page and it works just until I reload it again or go to another page
[08:40] <kothz> heck, I use gaim on windows :)
[08:41] <eracc> :-)
[08:41] <brkamikaze> ISO-8859-1 is marked as the default charset in the options
[08:41] <brkamikaze> and it still wants to use UTF-8!
[08:41] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: It helps that we are not swamped at the moment
[08:41] <Seveas> brkamikaze, then the page sends along a charset header
[08:41] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: Our answers get alot shorter
[08:41] <soon> luke-jnr_work ... thanks mate - it works now !
[08:41] <eracc> No one knows the answer to my server questions ...
[08:41] <kothz> What's your server question?
[08:42] <eracc> Hmmm, clamav and dspam on 6.06.1 are both older versions than I have been running already.  I need to make sure I can get the latest before I replace my server's Mandriva with Ubuntu server.
[08:42] <Seveas> eracc, try backporting it from edgy
[08:42] <barry> way more efficient than windows
[08:42] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: That will draw the rath of the ops
[08:42] <barry> totally reliable and simplistic
[08:42] <barry> its cool
[08:42] <Seveas> barry, please keep the language family-friendly here
[08:42] <eracc> Seveas, do you mean add the "backports" repository? Or doing the backport on me own self?
[08:42] <barry> soory
[08:43] <kothz> I tend to not rely on ubuntu builds (or packages in general on any distro) for time-sensitive updates.
[08:43] <marshall> how do you know if you have a multicore processor if you arent on a multicore kernel?
[08:43] <Seveas> eracc, the latter of course ;)
[08:43] <ompaul> !language
[08:43] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:43] <eracc> Seveas, I figured. Just wanted clarity. :-)
[08:43] <Seveas> eracc, it's not that hard to do on Ubuntu
[08:43] <barry> the window disappears once it logs in
[08:43] <Seveas> eracc, add this to /etc/apt/sources.list:
[08:44] <barry> in gaim
[08:44] <Seveas> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe restricted multiverse
[08:44] <Seveas> eracc, then take the following steps:
[08:44] <gnomefreak> Seveas: isnt it just grabing the source and uploading it to a server?
[08:44] <miloszp> hello
[08:44] <Jack_Sparrow> marshall: You might watch as the system boots through cmos/bios for the processor type
[08:44] <miloszp> I have a problem with my 5.1 soundsystem. I'd like to pass low frequencies to the subwoofer.
[08:44] <kothz> barry: look up in your notification space / task bar, you'll see the little gaim icon, you can pull up the buddy list
[08:44] <barry> where does gaim minimize to when it signs on
[08:45] <Seveas> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install build-essential fakeroot devscripts dpkg-dev; apt-get source clamav; cd clamav-XXXX; dpkg-buikdpackage -rfakeroot
[08:45] <barry> i cant find the icon
[08:45] <brkamikaze> I'm going to reboot here
[08:45] <brkamikaze> to finish the dapper update
[08:45] <Seveas> eracc, err, I forgot this: sudo apt-get build-dep clamav
[08:45] <brkamikaze> what's the beep media player package name?
[08:45] <POVaddct> barry: maybe it's in the taskbar, i don't know gaim
[08:45] <stefg> !info bmp
[08:45] <ubotu> Package bmp does not exist in any distro I know
[08:45] <Seveas> brkamikaze, beep-media-player
[08:45] <marshall> Jack_Sparrow, ok
[08:45] <barry> i checked nowhere to be found
[08:45] <barry> lol
[08:45] <kothz> Barry: have you added the notification area to your task bar?
[08:46] <barry> no
[08:46] <barry> lol
[08:46] <barry> whats that
[08:46] <Jack_Sparrow> marshall: Sorry, it was my only thought.. and you were ot getting many answers
[08:46] <brkamikaze> Seveas, damn dashes :P
[08:46] <brkamikaze> I'll be back later
[08:46] <eracc> Seveas, thanks. I'm saving that to a file so I can digest it. :-)
[08:46] <whurley> I know I've already ask this yesterday, but there weren't any suggestions and I'm getting somewhat desperate ;) Here is the issue I'm having trouble with. When installing onto boxes supplied to us by Penguin Computing (dual opteron 248s 4GB ram 300GB hd) the amd 64 bit Ubuntu cd boots up fine but freezes right after the "io scheduler cfg registered" and right before where the kernel should be loaded into the ram disk. We're tried sev
[08:46] <marshall> Jack_Sparrow, lol its ok
[08:46] <barry> how do i add the notification area to the task bar
[08:46] <Seveas> eracc, the manpages for the commands I mentioned help too if you want to understand what you are doing ;)
[08:46] <azzgor> hey
[08:47] <Seveas> barry, rightclick on the bar, select 'add to panel'
[08:47] <eracc> Seveas, yeah, that is what I mean by "digest". :-)
[08:47] <kothz> barry: right click on the task bar, add to panel -> utilities -> notification area
[08:47] <azzgor> i got some problems, WoW seems to crash for no reason, gaim too
[08:47] <Seveas> eracc, ;)
[08:47] <appelza> Hi
[08:47] <appelza> What is the 64bit channel name?
[08:47] <eracc> 'man' is your friend (mostly)
[08:47] <Seveas> appelza, #ubuntu
[08:47] <miloszp> I have a problem with my 5.1 soundsystem. I'd like to pass low frequencies to the subwoofer.
[08:47] <appelza> Ok
[08:48] <barry> theres no utilities or notification icon
[08:48] <azzgor> when i start wow, CPU goes to 100%, it usualy works for about 10mins then crashes of freezez for absolutely no reason
[08:48] <appelza> My ubuntu 64bit server install only detects 2gb of my 4gb ram
[08:48] <appelza> How do I get that sorted out?
[08:48] <whurley> appelza: what's your server hw?
[08:48] <appelza> amd opteron
[08:48] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: Just one warning...   Avoid scripts like Automatix for installing items.  It is best just to ask us here than to risk messing you your system.  Oh, and NOW would be a good time for a backup,, dont you think?
[08:49] <nidontknow> Hello all. I have webcam that is up and running, but I'm looking for an App that will allow me to capture video. Something similar to Windows MovieMaker would be nice.
[08:49] <barry> im just learning
[08:49] <barry> im tryign to find a notification area
[08:49] <barry> or add one
[08:49] <Seveas> barry, then make sure you make backups. Learning comes with errors ;)
[08:49] <barry> how do i make back ups
[08:50] <appelza> Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 265, 4GB Ram, Tyan K8WE Thunder Motherboard
[08:50] <whurley> appelza: dual opterons?
[08:50] <Seveas> barry, simply copy files you don't want to lose to a CD or usb stick
[08:50] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: Notification area first...  right click the upper task bar and then click on add
[08:50] <whurley> appelza: so just dual core then.
[08:50] <appelza> yup
[08:50] <whurley> appelza: did you have any issues during the install
[08:50] <appelza> No, went smooth
[08:50] <barry> got it
[08:50] <appelza> Tried reinstalling aswel
[08:50] <nidontknow> Does anyone know of a good program to capture video from a webcam???
[08:51] <barry> its just blank ill try opening GAIM again
[08:51] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: under utilities you will find notification area
[08:51] <barry> found it
[08:51] <jotavo>  problem with an old soundblaster ISA sound card
[08:51] <jotavo> help
[08:51] <appelza> And tried the mem=4096 in grub.conf ...is there a way to check the kernel configuration if it has the prober highmem stuff?
[08:51] <whurley> appelza: I have a dual opteron set up (248s) and I can't get the install to even come close to working. No boot options work, etc.
[08:51] <Jack_Sparrow> jotavo: I thought isa support was dropped
[08:52] <barry> the icon for gaim stays up by the ask bar f ra few secs then it totally dissappears
[08:52] <appelza> whurley: ubuntu server?
[08:52] <appelza> or just normal ubuntu 64?
[08:52] <whurley> appelza: yeah
[08:52] <whurley> appelza: just tried the latest and greatest
[08:52] <farchord> hmmm..... is it normal that only one app can access the sound card at a time?
[08:52] <farchord> <.<
[08:52] <appelza> meh
[08:52] <lewix> what's the command to have his ip adress
[08:52] <whurley> appelza: the issue: when installing onto boxes supplied to us by Penguin Computing (dual opteron 248s 4GB ram 300GB hd) the amd 64 bit Ubuntu cd boots up fine but freezes right after the "io scheduler cfg registered" and right before where the kernel should be loaded into the ram disk. We're tried several boot options and other tricks and tips but nothing works. Any suggestions?
[08:52] <lewix> on a terminal
[08:53] <Rasta> hi all
[08:53] <Firestar> whurley, have you tried the AMD64 version of the 6.06 server?
[08:53] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: There isnt a little icon next to the arrow used to exit Ubuntu
[08:53] <farchord> And YAY installing Final Fantasy XI on linux atm :D I cross my fingers so it works! :D
[08:53] <whurley> Firestar: yep, this is the AMD64 version in question
[08:53] <appelza> whurley: not really no, sorry
[08:53] <lewix> ipconfig?
[08:53] <Rasta> i just got ubuntu hoary but i was told that is a very old release, wich one i should download?
[08:53] <barry> does anybody know why GAIM disappears after 3 secs
[08:53] <nidontknow> I'm trying to record video from webcam. Help please.
[08:53] <stefg> !downlaod
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about downlaod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <stefg> !download
[08:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[08:54] <Firestar> anybody knows what the Ubuntu 64 bit channel name is?
[08:54] <whurley> appelza: no worries I'm just digging for anything I can. It's sadly turned to grasping at straws at this point with no one being able to even give me a clue as to how we can get this working
[08:54] <eracc> whurley, yell at Penguin Computing tech support until they help you solve your problem? :-)
[08:54] <stefg> There is neither a 64bit channle nor a ppc one...
[08:54] <Rasta> ok, so Dapper Drake its the good one
[08:54] <stefg> Rasta: yup!
[08:54] <barry> once i click gaim it just totally vanishes
[08:55] <Firestar> stefg, are you sure? someone earlier today referred me to it
[08:55] <barry> and thers no icon anywhere or minimisation
[08:55] <whurley> reacc: they're actually great at support, there was no need to yell and they're trying to help but I'm caught in the middle and it's only Ubuntu Dapper that seems to have the issue
[08:55] <Rasta> ok, thanks ill install it and maybe i came back later, i have like 2 years away from linux :(
[08:55] <Firestar> whurley, what motherboard have you got in there?
[08:55] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: I wonder if it wont open because it cant open a port.. anyone know?
[08:55] <eracc> whurley, I was joking, actually. I know PC has good support. :-)
[08:55] <miloszp> I have a problem with my 5.1 soundsystem. I'd like to pass low frequencies to the subwoofer.
[08:56] <stefg> Firestar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#head-729211ea4fb3c5b535d3d8a533dbc007c8dbce14
[08:56] <barry> no, it connects to msn server but then once i click the window to look at my contcta sit just totally vanishes
[08:56] <whurley> eracc: sorry this is the first time I've used them and they gave us the boxes lol, so I have little experience with them
[08:56] <Firestar> thanks stefg
[08:56] <whurley> Firestar: checking motherboard
[08:56] <sda> hi! how do I access a NTFS-drive on my computer that windows has written to FROM ubuntu?
[08:56] <sda> do I need to mount it, and where do I find it?
[08:57] <barry> Jack_Sparrow: it connects alright but once i try to look at my contacts it closes or soething
[08:57] <Seveas> !ntfs
[08:57] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:57] <sda> thanks!
[08:57] <farchord> I don't wanna know how, but do you guys know if it's safe to write to ntfs partitions from linux yet?
[08:57] <farchord> I heard things about it
[08:57] <erUSUL> !fuse
[08:57] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:57] <w30> anyone know how to solve "my printer won't finish a print job, but it actually does" problem with a print server on <IP_ADDRESS>? I had s end end of file option in Fedora gnome-print but I don't get it in Ubuntu
[08:57] <farchord> ahhh ok
[08:58] <Sp4rKy> hi
[08:58] <barry> does anyone know how GAIM is disappearing after it connects and signs in
[08:58] <Sp4rKy> i'm trying install postfix
[08:58] <Rasta> man that ! hints are very helpful
[08:58] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: HAve you made accounts and all of that in gaim already?
[08:58] <Sp4rKy> but after installation / configuration , i try to reload mysql, but it doesn't :/
[08:58] <barry> ya
[08:58] <barry> it  connects and everything
[08:58] <Sp4rKy> http://pastebin.wikistuce.info/?245 <== the error of /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[08:58] <barry> just disappears after 3 secs
[08:58] <erUSUL> barry: launch it from terminal it may spit out some error msg
[08:58] <Sp4rKy> http://pastebin.wikistuce.info/?246 <== postconf -n
[08:58] <Sp4rKy>  http://pastebin.wikistuce.info/?247 <== syslog
[08:59] <Sp4rKy> help me pleasssee
[08:59] <barry> how do i do that
[08:59] <farchord> Anyone knows if it's normal that I am unable to play more than one song at a time? I mean, if I play music, and go in Teamspeak, Teamspeak will refuse to capture....
[08:59] <w30> barry, run it in an xterm and see if it leaves any output on the terminal
[08:59] <sureshot> is your card full duplex
[08:59] <stefg> farchord: dmix is what you want
[08:59] <stefg> !alsa
[08:59] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:59] <w30> barry, it might say segfault or something
[09:00] <farchord> Thanks
[09:00] <reptyle> barry, applications > accessories > terminal, in the window that pops up, run gaim -d
[09:00] <pedrocr> ever since I upgraded to edgy sound-juicer stopped having any sound profiles to use. Anyone know why this happens?
[09:00] <w30> barry, open an sterm and type gaim
[09:00] <barry> its logging
[09:01] <w30> sterm/xterm
[09:01] <Firestar> !amd64
[09:01] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[09:01] <barry> it still disappeared
[09:01] <FlaX> Following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild gives me a problem since it don't have debian/rules how do i fix it?
[09:01] <barry> no error signed in and closed or something
[09:01] <reptyle> barry, did the prompt return in the terminal?
[09:02] <pussfeller> anyone know how to start bitlbee?
[09:02] <barry> connected
[09:02] <appelza> whats the difference between these two : (I mean, which one should I use on a SMP ubuntu 64 server machine)
[09:02] <appelza> Inst linux-amd64-k8-smp (<IP_ADDRESS> Ubuntu:6.06/dapper-security)
[09:02] <appelza> Inst linux-amd64-server [<IP_ADDRESS>]  (<IP_ADDRESS> Ubuntu:6.06/dapper-security)
[09:02] <barry> then off
[09:02] <Seveas> appelza, k8-smp
[09:02] <appelza> thanks!
[09:03] <appelza> would i need to remove the existing kernel, or will it upgrade automaticly?
[09:03] <barry> it says theres a bug in the software
[09:03] <brkamikaze> weird stuff happens with BMP when I'm using synaptic
[09:03] <brkamikaze> every time I mark a package for installation
[09:03] <brkamikaze> BMP goes mute
[09:03] <barry> somethign about aa core file
[09:03] <brkamikaze> :P
[09:03] <brkamikaze> barry, what software?
[09:03] <Crescendo> Default GUI install of Ubuntu, is there any firewall?
[09:04] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[09:04] <brkamikaze> appelza, neither
[09:04] <barry> GAIIM
[09:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[09:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[09:04] <brkamikaze> it will be a completely new kernel and the default boot option
[09:04] <barry> theres a bug in the software GAIM
[09:04] <stefg> Crescendo: no open ports, no firewall required :-)
[09:04] <trianglemanwins> anyone offer guildence install in radeon drivers?
[09:04] <barry> its just closes after signing in
[09:04] <brkamikaze> barry, ;/
[09:04] <brkamikaze> I don't use GAIM
[09:04] <barry> oh
[09:04] <barry> its really fustrating
[09:04] <reptyle> barry, run gaim -n which will stop it from logging in. then you can disable individual accounts from logging in automatically until you can find what account / protocol is causing the issue.
[09:04] <cpk2> barry: how so? I havent had any problems using the gaim i got from apt-get
[09:04] <Seveas> barry, no, it minimizes to the tray
[09:05] <Crescendo> stefg, I was having problems connecting to a certain server I installed, outside of NAT.  So, hrm.  Must be a problem with the server.
[09:05] <reptyle> welp, barry go bye bye :P
[09:05] <f_favila> no problems with Gaim here
[09:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Crescendo: Install firestarter or guarddog and look at your ports
[09:06] <appelza> brkamikaze: thats good
[09:06] <appelza> so I can just apt-get install it and reboot remotely and hope for the best?
[09:06] <cpk2> you dont *have* to use firestarter
[09:06] <brkamikaze> appelza, yes
[09:06] <cpk2> iptables can do it all =P
[09:06] <barry_> it opens up with everythign perfect btu just disappears
[09:06] <appelza> excellent.
[09:06] <barry_> uless its hidden minised
[09:06] <mobal> hey guys
[09:06] <mobal> everybody here?
[09:06] <mobal> i need help :(
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Crescendo: They are iptable managers not firewalls and they do not need to be run to provide protection
[09:06] <mobal> ubuntu 6.06
[09:06] <brkamikaze> mobal, nope, I'm away
[09:06] <brkamikaze> :)
[09:07] <LjL> !helpme
[09:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:07] <brkamikaze> what's the problem?
[09:07] <lightstep> is libdvdcss available for unubtu? it isn't in the standard servers.
[09:07] <Sigfried> HI
[09:07] <mobal> i can't start compiz xgl
[09:07] <Crescendo> Jack_Sparrow, I don't WANT protection, but I'm installing firestarter just to look.
[09:07] <appelza> downloading it now, do you think not using the smp kernel would cause my ram issue (4gb only shows up as 2gb..)
[09:07] <LjL> !xgl
[09:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:07] <brkamikaze> lightstep, it's in universe/multiverse
[09:07] <appelza> im hoping that is whats causing it, anyway
[09:07] <Sigfried> WHAT IS THIS ?
[09:07] <brkamikaze> !restricted