[06:01] <Seveas> monzie, otherwise $HOME is not reset, which has been the cause of numerous lockouts already (ie: people cannot login after sudo k3b and so on)
[06:02] <TengkSA> and where do i get netbeans from Vernon_
[06:02] <Jowi> [Neo_xx] : $ gksudo gedit filename ?
[06:02] <monzie> ohh, thanks Seveas
[06:02] <ForceAbuser> monzie: will try, brb
[06:02] <Vernon_> TengkSA: from the sun official site
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> Seveas,  and the idea of running nautilus  as root - is a little scary as well eh?
[06:02] <TengkSA> and how do i install it
[06:02] <monzie> use gksudo instead of sudo as Seveas said, ForceAbuser
[06:03] <bugz_> PuMpErNiCkLe: ACE or something like that (i forgot... its a crt monitor)
[06:03] <[Neo_xx] > Jowi, was gedit i was typing gedito thanks
[06:03] <Seveas> Dr_Willis, very
[06:03] <Vernon_> TengkSA: is released as a linux binary. execute it (after chmod +x thatbininstaller)
[06:03] <monzie> running anything in X as root ought to be scary Dr_Willis
[06:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: I've had problems with older CRT monitors, but not during install.
[06:04] <] BreliC[> hey everyone... what do i need to install to make the Gnome apps look less ugly in KDE?
[06:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: Most likely, you'll have to set the horizontal/vertical sync by kernel paramaters when you boot...
[06:04] <] BreliC[> i switch back and forth, and they look *UGLY* in KDE
[06:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: Hang on a sec, I'll find a howto for you.
[06:04] <Seveas> ] BreliC[, gtk2-engine-qt or something
[06:04] <TengkSA> Vernon_, im gonna need ur help once ive downloaded it please :P
[06:04] <bugz_> PuMpErNiCkLe: like how?
[06:04] <] BreliC[> Seveas, thanks, i'll look for that
[06:04] <monzie> hey PuMpErNiCkLe , how about sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:05] <monzie> fixed my monitors problem for me
[06:05] <Vernon_> TengkSA: download the bundle, the netbeans ide + jree
[06:05] <[Neo_xx] > im trying install amsn but it says that i dont have the packages tcl-dev and tk-dev
[06:06] <xhaker> [Neo_xx] , install them
[06:06] <TengkSA> [Neo_xx] , amsn is useless use gaim
[06:06] <Vernon_> amsn sux. wish sux
[06:06] <Seveas> [Neo_xx] , apt-get install amsn
[06:06] <Seveas> don't compile manually
[06:07] <Seveas> (and yeah, wish/tcl is [...censored...] )
[06:07] <xhaker> TengkSA, don't be silly.. i like gaim.. but these days i've been needing to send files at full speed only amsn does that
[06:07] <[Neo_xx] > emmmmmmmm where i cant find info about installa amsn with apt-get i dont know how
[06:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: http://i810fb.sourceforge.net/howto/x83.html
[06:07] <] BreliC[> Seveas, hmm, seems I already have gtk2-engine-gtk-qt installed
[06:07] <TengkSA> xhaker, i think gaim kicks ass
[06:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: search for 'parameters' in that page
[06:07] <mwe> [Neo_xx] : sudo apt-get install amsn
[06:07] <Seveas> [Neo_xx] , enable universe and simply apt-get install amsn
[06:07] <] BreliC[> wonder why the apps still look blocky
[06:07] <Jowi> [Neo_xx] : sudo apt-get install packagename
[06:07] <TengkSA> not like real msn but its certainly better than amsn xhaker
[06:07] <xhaker> TengkSA, me too.. so you send files using gaim?
[06:07] <Seveas> !tell [Neo_xx]  about universe
[06:08] <TengkSA> xhaker, yeah but people in south africa mostly have 56k anyway so it doesnt make any diff!!
[06:08] <Nomikos> how can i install from network without floppy drive?
[06:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: then write down the syntax and your monitor's properties on a piece of paper
[06:08] <[Neo_xx] > and where enable universe?
[06:08] <xhaker> even gaim2.0 can't do direct transfers
[06:08] <Seveas> nomasteryoda, bootable cd...
[06:08] <monzie> TengkSA, and in india too!
[06:08] <mwe> [Neo_xx] : however I second the advice of using another client like gaim.
[06:08] <djstillman> Hey all
[06:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: When you go to install, you should be prompted for any special modifications you want to make to the way it boots
[06:09] <djstillman> Any HP Laserjet people here?
[06:09] <TengkSA> monzie, we live in the 2 countries with the highest aids rates in the world
[06:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: And you can write them in there.
[06:09] <[Neo_xx] > and where enable universe?
[06:09] <Seveas> [Neo_xx] , ubotu told you
[06:09] <monzie> India has high aids rates? i am too young to enquire about that anyways TengkSA
[06:09] <TengkSA> monzie, whats the number there? ours is 10million, one in 4 people
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> djstillman,  i got a HP laserjet 6L  - its like 10 yrs old.
[06:10] <TengkSA> monzie, ridiculously high
[06:10] <Seveas> old, but very good
[06:10] <bugz_> PuMpErNiCkLe: thanks a lot
[06:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: Generally, most monitors have the horizontal/vertical refresh rates written on teh back, or you can display them by pressing one of 'adjustment' buttons on the front of the monitor (if there are any)
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> Seveas,  they just keep ticking dont they. :P
[06:10] <Seveas> yeah
[06:10] <Seveas> they rock :)
[06:10] <djstillman> Dr_Willis - I have been having a really hard time getting good printouts from my new HP LJ 5si...
[06:10] <TengkSA> is it just me or do downloads go faster with linux than they do with windows
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> i had to replace the ruber rollers once.. with parts from 'fixyourwnprinter.com'
[06:10] <Jowi> bugz_, PuMpErNiCkLe "sudo ddcprobe" should also work
[06:11] <Seveas> TengkSA, :)
[06:11] <djstillman> Dr_Willis - I have tried all of the included drivers, and the HP ones, per their setup, and still only get base printing functionality...
[06:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Jowi: Only if he can see what he's doing ;)
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> djstillman,  when in doubt - its time to check the CUPS homepage and see what they say about that exact printer
[06:12] <Jowi> PuMpErNiCkLe: ah, that MIGHT be true ;)
[06:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> peace out - g2g back to class
[06:13] <mcphail_> Can anyone recommend a digial TV card which is simple to set up under Ubuntu?
[06:13] <Jowi> c u PuMpErNiCkLe
[06:13] <AtomicB_> can anyone help my with the nvidia-glx drivers?
[06:13] <AtomicB_> *help me with
[06:13] <djstillman> What's up AtomicB_ ?
[06:13] <AtomicB_> djstillman, if I edit xorg to use them, I get a blank screen
[06:14] <Nomikos> Seveas: I have the bootable installer CD, will that work? where do I specify "Network" ?
[06:14] <AtomicB_> not quite what I was after :)
[06:14] <djstillman> What all are you editing?  Can you post your file somewhere?
[06:14] <poningru> AtomicB_: have you read the page on the wiki?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> mcphail_,  check the MythTV forums/website for the ones they suggest.. budget is an issue as well.
[06:14] <TengkSA> is there a way of changing or saving to your windows hard drives
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> mcphail_,  i was thinking the Haupage PVR2500 was a popular one
[06:14] <AtomicB_> which particular page? sorry read so many last day or two is kind of become a blur
[06:14] <mcphail_> Dr_Willis: thank you
[06:15] <djstillman> Dr_Willis - not seeing much at all for my 5si...  Anywhere else to check?
[06:16] <AtomicB_> poningru, which wiki page specifically?
[06:16] <djstillman> AtomicB_ - what all have you changed?
[06:16] <synic> anyone use juk?
[06:16] <AtomicB_> djstillman, I've got the required nvidia-glx stuff from synaptic
[06:16] <AtomicB_> then edited xorg.conf to use them
[06:16] <ForceAbuser> monzie: back, --nodeskop is not recognised
[06:16] <lotusleaf> synic, amaroK > juk
[06:17] <synic> lotusleaf: it would be if it didn't crash constantly.
[06:17] <AtomicB_> literally just changing nv to nvidia, nothing else
[06:17] <djstillman> Can you post your xorg.conf somewhere to be seen?
[06:17] <lotusleaf> synic, are you using bleeding edge new AmaroK?
[06:17] <AtomicB_> djstillman, sure, one sec
[06:17] <synic> lotusleaf: whatever is in kubuntu
[06:17] <lotusleaf> synic, I haven't experienced any crashes in recent builds
[06:17] <lotusleaf> synic, oh, I compile it myself :)
[06:17] <AtomicB_> djstillman, using this > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6595
[06:17] <AtomicB_> literally with nvidia where nv is
[06:18] <djstillman> Comment out the dri module with a #
[06:18] <AtomicB_> djstillman, thanks, I got the same answer from someone else at exactly the same time
[06:18] <AtomicB_> could you possibly tell me what that does? *curious*
[06:19] <djstillman> It is for ATI cards
[06:19] <Xenguy> Hi - I have successfully installed and configured PPPoE so my DSL connection works, but currently I must invoke a DSL connection manually (with 'pon').  I would like to configure the DSL connection to 1) connect when PC is booted; and 2) attempt to reconnect if DSL connection goes down for some reason.  I used to do this with a script in /etc/init.d/, but now I see a comment that a new method is preferred, one that uses /etc/network/interfaces.  So,
[06:19] <AtomicB_> djstillman, ok, thanks
[06:20] <djstillman> Welcome.  Later all
[06:20] <Tomcat_> Xenguy: When you do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure pppoe" you can choose to connect on boot.
[06:20] <Xenguy> Tomcat_: OK.  Will that also reconnect if the connection goes down?
[06:21] <Tomcat_> Xenguy: Not sure. I'm working on that problem myself.
[06:21] <[Neo_xx] > Seveas when i enable universe i algo have to enable multiverse?
[06:22] <Xenguy> Tomcat_: Thanks for the tip; I'll try that.  If you find out the best way to configure 'reconnect DSL', please feel free to ping me :-)
[06:23] <Tomcat_> Xenguy: Well I do have it configured already, but sometimes my provider goes down for an hour and after a couple of retries, pppoe stops as well.
[06:23] <polpak> [Neo_xx] , you don't have to, but multiverse does have quite a few packages that people find useful
[06:23] <Tomcat_> Xenguy: But I'm just leaving, so can't tell what config option that reconnect is. Try Google or other people here. :)
[06:23] <monzie> sorry ForceAbuser  it --no-desktop
[06:23] <Xenguy> Tomcat_: thanks again
[06:23] <Jowi> Xenguy, Tomcat_ I haven't used pppoe for a couple of years, but when I did I had an applet in gnome-panel that did that for me.
[06:24] <FiNANCiER> i wonder if u can overdose on green tea
[06:24] <Jowi> a dirt old gnome version though
[06:24] <[Neo_xx] > thanks polpak
[06:25] <Xenguy> Jowi: thanks (tho I would prefer to configure this at some 'non-X' level ideally)
[06:25] <Jowi> Xenguy: of course :)
[06:25] <jm_> bye
[06:25] <rockinchado> does anyone in here know something about tv tuner cards
[06:26] <nukeskyjmpr> rockinchado: yes, they are overpriced :)
[06:26] <pi9inE> since I have still problem with burning that DVD .iso as bootable DVD, I've extracted it and burned it like normal DVD bootable, what you think, will this work?
[06:26] <erUSUL> Xenguy, pppoeconf does not work for you?
[06:26] <poningru> pi9inE: what are you talking about?
[06:26] <rockinchado> nukeskyjmpr, just so happens that got mine for free from someone who thought it would only work on windows 98 cause those were the only drivers he had
[06:26] <pi9inE> poningru: some guys know :)
[06:27] <yahalom> how do i reinstall an app? sudo apt-get ??
[06:27] <nukeskyjmpr> rockinchado: very lucky
[06:27] <pi9inE> since yesterday I'm trying to burn DVD .iso I've downloaded from web
[06:27] <pi9inE> but not working
[06:27] <poningru> yahalom: sudo apt-get remove foobar
[06:27] <pi9inE> i've burned more as 8 DVDs and noone of em want to boot
[06:27] <Suprano> where can i configure my second netcard ?
[06:27] <synic> so does anyone use juk?
[06:27] <rockinchado> nukeskyjmpr, you know anything about workin them in linux though?
[06:27] <nukeskyjmpr> rockinchado: nothing at all, sorry
[06:27] <polpak> pi9inE, how are you burning them?
[06:27] <polpak> pi9inE, you using nero?
[06:27] <pi9inE> polpak: what you mean? yes
[06:27] <nukeskyjmpr> trying to find one myself for linux
[06:27] <yahalom> poningru, i dont want to remove, i want to reinstall
[06:27] <polpak> pi9inE, what option are you using?
[06:28] <polpak> pi9inE, for the type
[06:28] <pi9inE> polpak: uhm? normal DVD bootable and then boot from .iso
[06:28] <Manifold> Gah.
[06:28] <poningru> yahalom: yes thats what it does
[06:28] <Morg> Is there anything to see how much bandwidth each running process is using?
[06:28] <Manifold> My system's struggling with GNOME.
[06:28] <poningru> thats the command
[06:28] <pi9inE> polpak: i mean write from that .iso
[06:28] <Manifold> Getting lots of slowdown.
[06:28] <polpak> pi9inE, ah.. No. You need to use DVD image
[06:28] <yahalom> poningru, no that removes it
[06:28] <poningru> yahalom: man apt-get
[06:28] <yahalom> poningru, thanx
[06:28] <polpak> pi9inE, or something like it
[06:28] <Manifold> What else can I use apart from GNOME and KDE?
[06:28] <Jowi> yahalom: remove +  install = reinstall
[06:28] <polpak> pi9inE, not the bootable option
[06:29] <polpak> Manifold, enlightenment, fluxbox
[06:29] <poningru> yahalom: just install it after removal
[06:29] <[Neo_xx] > polpak i enabled universe but i also have to mark the security updates that says community maintained (universe)?
[06:29] <pi9inE> polpak: aha, cause this is killing me, can't figure out this... getting frustrated
[06:29] <Manifold> Which one's easier to configure.
[06:29] <Manifold> ?
[06:29] <polpak> Manifold, they are both pretty easy
[06:29] <Manifold> Right..
[06:29] <polpak> Manifold, But I find fluxbox to be more stable
[06:29] <Manifold> Hrm.
[06:29] <Manifold> Oki.
[06:29] <Vernon_> Manifold: remember: gnome is not a window manager, is a desktop environment
[06:30] <monzie> and GNOME oversimplifies things, Vernon_
[06:30] <polpak> [Neo_xx] , that'd be wise if you want to get security updates =)
[06:30] <Xenguy> erUSUL: I actually haven't tried pppoeconf
[06:30] <Manifold> Yeah.
[06:30] <poningru> yahalom: I think you should look into synaptic
[06:30] <[Neo_xx] > ok polpak  thanks
[06:30] <erUSUL> Xenguy, why?
[06:30] <Vernon_> Manifold: you can still use metacity if you like it, but without gnome
[06:30] <Manifold> Vernon_, I'm having trouble multitasking on GNOME.
[06:30] <polpak> Manifold, but if you don't want a desktop environment you don't have to use one
[06:30] <yahalom> poningru, apt-get install --reinstall
[06:30] <Manifold> What is metacity?
[06:31] <erUSUL> Xenguy, are you using an usb modem (like myself)?
[06:31] <polpak> Manifold, metacity is the WM for gnome
[06:31] <Vernon_> Manifold: a part of what you call "gnome"
[06:31] <Manifold> !metacity
[06:31] <ubotu> Manifold: What?
[06:31] <polpak> Manifold, it's the window manager
[06:31] <Manifold> I thought Nautilus was.
[06:31] <Vernon_> Manifold: try icewm. or xfce4
[06:31] <polpak> Manifold, no, nautilus is the file manager
[06:31] <Xenguy> erUSUL: I just configured the basic connection by hand; will pppoeconf configure a DSL connection to attempt to re-connect?
[06:32] <Xenguy> erUSUL: no USB modem
[06:32] <gookie> hi, i need help pls. my serial mouse is not recognized by ubuntu. i tried the configure option of xserver xorg (???) and it doesnt ask me what port im using for my mouse. pls?
[06:32] <Vernon_> gnome:the messiest software in the world :D
[06:32] <gookie> im running a laptop btw.
[06:32] <erUSUL> Xenguy, i do not quite understand. do you want to automatically reconnect when the link disconnect?
[06:33] <Xenguy> erUSUL: yes
[06:33] <poningru> yahalom: did not know that
[06:33] <Kirsch_> hey guys, i'm trying to get dual monitors to work... i can load the fglrx driver correctly, but i'm having issues getting it to stop mirroring the same screen
[06:33] <kemik> Kirsch_:  firegl control ?
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> men who love man! on the next Jenny Jones!
[06:33] <kemik> hehe nice1 Dr_Willis
[06:33] <Xenguy> Dr_Willis: haha
[06:33] <poningru> rofl
[06:33] <gookie> is there some way to activate my serial mouse?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> serial mouse.. egads..  ya steal it from a Museum?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:34] <mwe> gookie: you need to set the device in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:34] <mwe> gookie: back it up before you mess with it though
[06:34] <Kirsch_> 1sec, had to reboot, X died on me, had to restore xorg.conf
[06:34] <gookie> so w/c line do i have to modify?
[06:34] <poningru> gookie: just restart your comp with it connected it should work
[06:35] <kemik> Kirsch_:  firegl control ?
[06:35] <erUSUL> Xenguy, i do not know if it is possible...
[06:35] <C-O-L-T> Hey people, I want to help in translating ubuntu to hungarian. Is it possible. I am quite good at english
[06:35] <gookie> @ponigru, nope it doesnt :(
[06:35] <poningru> hmm thats weird
[06:35] <yahalom> my firefox doesnt work, i just updated to breezy any ideas?
[06:35] <Manifold> !wm
[06:35] <ubotu> Manifold: No idea
[06:35] <C-O-L-T> Hey people, I want to help in translating ubuntu to hungarian. Is it possible. I am quite good at english
[06:35] <Manifold> !icewm
[06:35] <ubotu> Manifold: What?
[06:35] <Seveas> C-O-L-T, contact the hungarian ubuntu team, for a contact address: wiki.ubuntu.com/LocoTeamList
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> gookie,   -->   Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"
[06:35] <Dr_Willis>
[06:35] <Xenguy> erUSUL: it is definitely possible; I'm just not sure what the current preferred method is in Ubuntu
[06:35] <mwe> gookie: the one that contains the device Option "Device" under mouse
[06:35] <gookie> ill try to look into xorg.conf and see what line i should mess with :)
[06:35] <gookie> @dr_willis k, ill try that too thx
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> gookie,  i got no id3ea what to change it TO however. :P
[06:36] <kemik> Kirsch_:  its "fireglcontrol" even
[06:36] <Manifold> So icewm and xfce can just be installed from apt?
[06:36] <erUSUL> C-O-L-T, search for rosseta in the web
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> Manifold,  yes.
[06:36] <kemik> Manifold:  yes
[06:36] <Manifold> Thanks.
[06:36] <mwe> gookie: it probably has to be /dev/ttyS0 IIRC
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> Manifold,  'xubuntu-desktop' for the whole XFCE DE.
[06:36] <monzie> XFCE is good Dr_Willis , thanks
[06:37] <gookie> im actually using 3 mice right now 1 via USB, 1 via serial and 1 from laptop.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  it has its good and bad points :P
[06:37] <erUSUL> C-O-L-T, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/rosettarelease
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> gookie,  you sicko! lol
[06:37] <gookie> LOL
[06:37] <gookie> wait tho
[06:37] <Jowi> gookie: add "mousedev" to /etc/modules if it isn't there + "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and chose the serial mouse there. that's the simple way
[06:37] <monzie> yeah, the file manager's terrible Dr_Willis
[06:37] <gookie> prolly the serial is not loaded coz there's already the one from laptop?
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> gookie,  you may needt o create a seperate entry for the serial mouse and alter a few other things however.
[06:37] <monzie> both rox filer and xffm
[06:37] <Jowi> gookie: oh, and maybe modprobe mousedev as well
[06:37] <gookie> @Jowi, ill try that now too thx.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> gookie,  the laptop pad - may be a 'ps2'  device
[06:38] <mwe> gookie: the serial one will only work if you put in ial is not loaded coz there's already the one from  laptop?
[06:38] <Kirsch_> it keeps mirroring when i set that....
[06:38] <gookie> mwe, no idea lol
[06:38] <Kirsch_> i saw the option, doesn't seem like it does anything
[06:38] <[Neo_xx] > who told that amsn is useless??
[06:38] <mwe> gookie: the serial will only work if you put in /dev/ttyS0 somewhere I meant to say :)
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> I consider IM clients worse then useless. :P dangerous.. :P
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> heh heh
[06:38] <gookie> oh. i see. that's in xorg.conf right?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> well in the hands of my wife they are..
[06:39] <mwe> gookie: right
[06:39] <gookie> k, thx
[06:39] <[Neo_xx] > jajaja Dr_Willis
[06:39] <gookie> umm, how do I backup xorg.conf? just make a copy?
[06:39] <gookie> lol
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> i still want to know when IM clients quit beuing for messages.. now a days it seems tehy are for XXX chat rooms.  :)
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> gookie,  thats a good habbit to get into.
[06:40] <gookie> k, thx hehe.
[06:40] <mwe> gookie: right. sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[06:40] <pi9inE> i've inserted my DVD and I got this screen: Cannot load DOS! Any key to retry - what's wrong?
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> gookie,  cp it to xorg.conf.worked.for.me.at.the.start
[06:40] <gookie> LOL
[06:40] <mwe> Dr_Willis: rofl
[06:40] <Jowi> pi9inE: lol
[06:40] <pi9inE> yeah LOL :D
[06:40] <Vernon_> pi9inE: dvd is not bootable
[06:40] <}MatriX{> people
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> i got so many xorg.conf's for different things ive tested out - its scary
[06:41] <}MatriX{> i got ubuntu 5.10 i386
[06:41] <}MatriX{> how do i install it ???
[06:41] <}MatriX{> i ??
[06:41] <pi9inE> Matrix same problem here since yesterday :)
[06:41] <pi9inE> DVD .iso here
[06:41] <pi9inE> :)))
[06:41] <[Neo_xx] > where can i see how install a webcam??? (creative labs)
[06:41] <}MatriX{> :((
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> pi9inE,  check the dvd - what files are on it?
[06:41] <pi9inE> Dr_Willis: just a sec. my man
[06:41] <Vernon_> }MatriX{: put it on cdrom and reboot
[06:41] <}MatriX{> how
[06:41] <}MatriX{> to put on cdrom :d
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> [Neo_xx] ,  my creative webcam just locked up the system. :( sadly.
[06:41] <}MatriX{> i must to burn it
[06:42] <}MatriX{> hMm
[06:42] <pi9inE> Matrix: burn it :)
[06:42] <}MatriX{> damn
[06:42] <mwe> [Neo_xx] : I think it's like plug in; (enjoy|cry)
[06:42] <Dr_Willis>  For burning .iso cd images under windows - i like to use "Burn At once"  google for it.
[06:42] <site> there is some bittorrent client installed in ubuntu i see.....
[06:42] <ubuntu_> hhh
[06:42] <site> but how can i change those options?
[06:42] <pi9inE> dr_Willis: what with DVD .iso then?
[06:42] <site> in the client
[06:42] <}MatriX{> ppl
[06:42] <}MatriX{> i got windows too
[06:42] <}MatriX{> how do i make
[06:42] <}MatriX{> to dont delete my widnows ?
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> pi9inE,  sadly B.A.O does not do dvd images.. i had to use NERO for that.
[06:43] <joseph> Hi.
[06:43] <joseph> Does anyone know how to upgrade to Ubuntu 5.10?
[06:43] <mwe> }MatriX{: the installer asks you
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> }MatriX{,  it may be worth wile to go to the ubuntu web site and read the install docs a little.
[06:43] <joseph> I forgot how to. =(
[06:43] <site> anyone knows how to change options in the BitTorrent client from Ubuntu?
[06:44] <[Neo_xx] > so i better discard the idea of my webcam?
[06:44] <Jowi> site: gnome-btdownload does not have many options at all. you get some tabs when you start a download, that's it. there are other clients though but i haven't tried them (azeruous or something)
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Thats the Gnome way! :p
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> [Neo_xx] ,  ive had such bad luck with webcams under Linux - its scary
[06:45] <mwe> [Neo_xx] : I haven't used one myself on ubuntu. but I hear it's in general very esay to get to work or it wont work at all
[06:45] <gookie> k, back. So i have 3 "input devices" on xorg.conf. 1 keyboard & 2 mice.
[06:45] <polpak> }MatriX{, do you have a CD, or just an ISO?
[06:45] <gookie> 1 mouse is ImPS/2 the other is "auto-dev" synaptic touchpad
[06:45] <site> Jowi, , but you can change the port?
[06:45] <}MatriX{> i got the iso
[06:45] <}MatriX{> now
[06:45] <}MatriX{> trying
[06:45] <}MatriX{> to find an blank
[06:45] <}MatriX{> :)
[06:45] <gookie> Is the ImPS/2 should be the USB mouse connected now?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> !space
[06:46] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Dr_Willis
[06:46] <polpak> }MatriX{, What program are you using to burn it?
[06:46] <J4|\|> is ubuntu really the easyest distro to use ?
[06:46] <Jowi> site: that should be doable.
[06:46] <}MatriX{> nero
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> J4|\|,  I put it in the top 5 :P
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> J4|\|,  the term 'easy'  can be vague  heh.
[06:46] <polpak> J4|\|, It's certainly the easiest to set up and administrate for new users
[06:47] <site> im downlaoding bittorrent now, thats not yet installed in ubuntu, from synaptic
[06:47] <pi9inE> Dr_Willis: can I send you via DCC a .jpg what's on DVD cause imageshack.us looks broken
[06:47] <polpak> site, I'm pretty sure ubuntu has a bittorrent client installed by default
[06:47] <site> yes true
[06:47] <site> but its gnome bittorrent right?
[06:47] <site> and not bittorrent?
[06:47] <}MatriX{> tell me
[06:47] <polpak> site, I think so
[06:47] <}MatriX{> if i will reboot
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> pi9inE,  not really :P it is just 1 huge iso file? or a lot of little files? is the question
[06:48] <}MatriX{> i got already 2 partitions
[06:48] <pi9inE> Dr_Willis: now it's extracted .iso file
[06:48] <}MatriX{> how do i do to keep windows an run ubuntu ??
[06:48] <polpak> ubotu tell }MatriX{ about dualboot
[06:48] <gookie> okay, just want to ask if I can manually add a new Input Device section in xorg.conf for my serial mouse
[06:48] <gookie> like copy the one pointing to /dev/input/mice
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> pi9inE,  hmm.. ive seen cases where people mess up and burn the 'whatever.iso' as a file to a disk.. and get a disk with just 'whatever.iso' on it. :P
[06:49] <gookie> and change it to the serial one
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> pi9inE,  it dosent sound like you did it that way however.
[06:49] <mwe> gookie: I believe you can
[06:49] <Jowi> site: man gnome-btdownload will give you some port options
[06:49] <SirKillalot> which terminal emulator do you use? --
[06:49] <pi9inE> Dr_Willis: no, don't worry :)
[06:49] <everett_> Quick question, how do I find out if a kernel module has been loaded into the kernel?
[06:49] <polpak> everett_, lsmod
[06:49] <SirKillalot> everett_, lsmod
[06:49] <polpak> SirKillalot, beat you ;p
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> pi9inE,  heh - odd that the dvd isent booting..
[06:49] <SirKillalot> polpak, ;P
[06:49] <gookie> mwe, thx! so if i messed up. how can I restore the backup?
[06:49] <mwe> gookie: by now, can you use the usb mouse as well as the touch pad?
[06:49] <pi9inE> Dr_Willis: what can I do? :-/
[06:49] <everett_> thanks
[06:49] <gookie> mwe, yes.
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> pi9inE,  you dont have a older dvd drive that needs dvd+r or -r and got the wrong kind of disk  do ya?
[06:50] <SirKillalot> Question to _ALL_ : Which Terminal Emulator Do You Use?
[06:50] <gookie> mwe, just want to add the serial one as the 3rd.
[06:50] <polpak> pi9inE, can you just burn a CD ROM?
[06:50] <pi9inE> Dr_Willis: not, all working perfectly fine
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> pi9inE,  i fouight a laptop for 5 hrs with THAT issue once.   :P
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> mwe,  nto sure why.
[06:53] <pi9inE> I'm getting frustrated
[06:53] <pi9inE> really
[06:53] <mwe> Dr_Willis: really?
[06:53] <polpak> pi9inE, If you get the CD image I can make it work. I can't guarentee the DVD one, as I haven't used it at all
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> mwe,  yea.. not sure if its an issue with this xchat  for windows client or not.
[06:54] <pi9inE> polpak: I had one yesterday , f0k need to re-download I'm gonna kill myself
[06:54] <}MatriX{> who likes emech
[06:54] <polpak> pi9inE, one sec
[06:55] <mwe> Dr_Willis: sounds weird.
[06:55] <pi9inE> polpak: OK
[06:55] <polpak> pi9inE, ok, try http://www.download.com/Burn4Free-CD-DVD/3000-2646_4-10481244.html?tag=lst-0-10
[06:55] <Jowi> pi9inE: all iso's got a md5 file as well that you download to the same directory as the iso itself. md5sum --check filename.iso to see if the iso is ok. if it is, you don't have to redownload it again
[06:55] <Stork> what sort of games can ubuntu run?
[06:55] <Stork> i presume i need to install windows to be able to game
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> mwe,  yea - it even showed himn in the ignore list.. but he was still spamming away.. untill the op killed him.
[06:55] <polpak> pi9inE, or actually
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  depends on the game
[06:55] <djm62> Stork: depends on the game...
[06:55] <polpak> pi9inE, try this one instead (seems to have better ratings)
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:55] <polpak> http://www.download.com/Instant-CD-DVD-Burner/3000-2646_4-10475332.html?tag=lst-0-7
[06:56] <Stork> right, so what sort of games like ubuntu?
[06:56] <mwe> Dr_Willis: it sounds broken
[06:56] <Jowi> Stork: some good ones are Quake2, egoboo, neverputt
[06:56] <Storkme> how about quake 4?
[06:56] <polpak> Stork, Quake 4 works
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> http://www.burnatonce.com/index.htm?downloads   - is nice
[06:56] <Kindred> pi9inE:  you definitely made sure of the boot order right?.. seems odd neither a cd or dvd would work thats all :P
[06:56] <Storkme> awesome, how do i get it working?
[06:56] <pi9inE> Kindred: I'm sure for 101%
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> egoboo :P
[06:56] <polpak> Storkme,  http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/
[06:56] <djm62> Stork: there are a handful (sadly) of commercial games that run natively on linux, loads of free games (some of which are high-quality), and an option to use emulation for other commercial games
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Emulators are fun.
[06:57] <Storkme> o rly?
[06:57] <Kindred> 101% is good
[06:57] <poningru> orly?
[06:57] <djm62> Dr_Willis: is there any reasonable way to play egoboo on a laptop...that games rocks
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> djm62,  im installing it now.. i forget what its like lol
[06:58] <Jowi> djm62: only if you have a mouse :-/
[06:58] <Storkme> could anyone walk me through installing it? i have quake4, which i "used" to use for windows before i realised it was total shit
[06:58] <Storkme> windows i mean, not quake :p
[06:58] <polpak> Storkme, you should read the FAQ
[06:58] <polpak> Storkme, It has installation instructions
[06:58] <Storkme> ok, it's just, i'm a noob, at everything
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> Jowi,  lol. I picked up about 6 copies of Q3 in the metal box's for linux - from a bargin bin once..
[06:58] <Storkme> orly?
[06:58] <djm62> Jowi: I get messed up on not having a numeric keypad (I think) for flight/space sims and other 3d stuff
[06:59] <Jowi> Dr_Willis: bargin bins ROCK. first thing i check at any store!
[06:59] <Stork> lol
[06:59] <Kindred> I like cube, no 64 bit though :\
[06:59] <djm62> although quake works nicely
[06:59] <polpak> Storkme, this url is a walkthrough of some guy installing it on Ubuntu Breezy
[06:59] <gookie> what's the protocol for a serial mouse? "serial' too??
[06:59] <polpak> Storkme, http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/11/07/1547208&tid=8
[06:59] <yaaar> does evolution just really suck or something? it seems stupidly slow and unresponsive...hangs a lot, that sort of thing
[06:59] <Storkme> so what's the difference between 64-bit ubuntu and 32-bit ubuntu?
[06:59] <djm62> Kindred: is cube a proper game these days?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> RTCW:ET works nicely under ubnut also
[06:59] <polpak> Storkme, 32 bit has fewer issues
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> CUBE is getting better...
[06:59] <yaaar> i've always used thunderbird and been happy with it....but saw this was the ubuntu default and figured what the hell....i'd give it a shot
[06:59] <Vernon_> Storkme: cedega
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> but nto a lot of people play it.
[06:59] <yaaar> but that shot may be about over...
[07:00] <djm62> RTCW is so damn good...
[07:00] <polpak> Storkme, and 64 bit is only for 64 bit AMD arch
[07:00] <Storkme> right, so is 64-bit faster or something?
[07:00] <Kindred> djm62, yeah the next version is is development now (sauerbraten).. so cube is no longer being worked on though
[07:00] <djstillman> Hey all, any HP Laserjet owners here?
[07:00] <poningru> Storkme: ofcourse
[07:00] <yaaar> Storkme: it has twice as many bits ;-)
[07:00] <polpak> Storkme, Do you have an AMD 64 bit processor?
[07:00] <Storkme> oh good
[07:00] <Storkme> but of course
[07:00] <polpak> Storkme, ah
[07:00] <Storkme> *showing off* AMD X2 4200+
[07:00] <] BreliC[> Storkme, UT2004 also runs natively on Linux
[07:00] <Storkme> oh sweet!
[07:00] <djm62> and ut2k3
[07:01] <paco> hola
[07:01] <Storkme> fuck microsoft
[07:01] <polpak> Storkme, what video card do you have?
[07:01] <poningru> Storkme: unfortunately 64bit procs arent there yet for everyday computing
[07:01] <Storkme> nvidia 6600GT
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> xpilot - the ultimate game
[07:01] <cello_rasp> hi is there any way of accessing a shared samba place (as in 'places') via other programs? in clearer languages, are these mounted/linked to the filesystem? It seems I cant access smb shares with many programs
[07:01] <foxgamer> Hi all. I was in last night and was being helped with an error 13 problem with grub. I have got a bit further. Wondering if anyone from last night is here that can help again?
[07:01] <djm62> and doom3?
[07:01] <Storkme> sweet
[07:01] <Storkme> linux rox
[07:01] <poningru> Storkme: things like 64bit drivers, plugins etc. are not availble
[07:01] <polpak> cello_rasp, sudo apt-get install smbfs smb4k
[07:01] <paco> alguien que hable en espaol? o igual no se puede, necesito informacion
[07:01] <] BreliC[> Dr_Willis, yeah, that is a great game... it's not free, is it?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> cello_rasp,  i tend to use smb4k to mount them where i want.
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> ] BreliC[,  as far as i know its GPL.
[07:02] <djm62> Storkme: the quid pro quo is letting companies know that you would buy games on linux. invisibility is death ;)
[07:02] <cello_rasp> thanks chaps!!
[07:02] <pi9inE> is that true, that games are runing faster on linux?
[07:02] <] BreliC[> Dr_Willis, nice... it's been years since I"ve played that game
[07:02] <Storkme> hehe
[07:02] <cello_rasp> pi9ine apparently so
[07:02] <polpak> pi9inE, depends on the game, but in general yes
[07:02] <pi9inE> cool
[07:02] <polpak> pi9inE, particularly if your drivers have good support
[07:02] <pi9inE> polpak: i've check that .iso in MagicISO and it says it's bootable
[07:02] <cello_rasp> i just want to be able to rund fruityloops on ubuntu ;___;
[07:02] <yaaar> pi9inE: it depends a lot on a lot of things. but way back in the day i did note that i got better framerates on quake3 (running native) and counterstrike (running in wine) than i did in windows on the same box
[07:03] <poningru> pi9inE: it would be slower if you ati
[07:03] <] BreliC[> paco - join #ubuntu-es for spanish help
[07:03] <poningru> !es
[07:03] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:03] <pi9inE> i got GeForce 6600GT
[07:03] <Storkme> me too
[07:03] <yaaar> wow, ubotu's multilingual
[07:03] <[Neo_xx] > its usefull install prelink?
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> [Neo_xx] ,  i hear it can be.. but it does not seem as big a buzz as it was a few mo ago.
[07:03] <paco> join #ubuntu-es
[07:04] <yaaar> [Neo_xx] : prelinking speeds up load times pretty dramatically for a lot of things
[07:04] <] BreliC[> yaaar, is OpenGL superior to DirectX?
[07:04] <] BreliC[> yaaar, because i remember way back that windows games were OpenGL, then they switched
[07:04] <ulisse> anybody knows what to do to enable 3D on an ati radeon 7000 (with xorg driver)?
[07:04] <paco> gracias meri,
[07:04] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: don't go dragging me into a religious war ;-)
[07:04] <] BreliC[> paco, you have to do /j #ubuntu-es
[07:04] <i3dmaster> If you use firefox to connect to address like this https://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:22, you will get "This address uses a network port which is normally used for purposes other than Web browsing. Firefox has canceled the request for your protection. My question is how to config firefox not the cancel the request?
[07:04] <Jowi> [Neo_xx] : so and so. most boot speed boost you will get from compiling your own kernel and leave out as much crap as you can. my boot time went from 65 to 30 seconds
[07:04] <[Neo_xx] > a ok cause im intalling it
[07:04] <polpak> ulisse, I think you have to get other drivers, but I could be wrong
[07:04] <tcpip> i tried forums but i cant seem to overcome 'data cannot be read from cdrom' error during installation or even through live cd
[07:05] <] BreliC[> yaaar, hehe, sorry :)
[07:05] <ulisse> polpak, the fglrx drivers doesn't work for that board
[07:05] <Storkme> what's the format of saving a game? just out of interest?
[07:05] <polpak> ulisse, I know
[07:05] <Storkme> would ~/q4/ work?
[07:05] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: a lot of developer types prefer DirectX nowadays, mostly because it has a lot bigger API and game-devel framework attached to it. it's not really better in any technical graphics rendering way, just easier to develop for
[07:05] <Jowi> tcpip: try to burn at lower speed (like 4x)
[07:05] <] BreliC[> yaaar, ahh, gotcha
[07:05] <ulisse> polpak, I'm using "radeon" drivers, but I have mesa acceleration...
[07:05] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: the GL guys point to SDL and some other things that patch something similar together....
[07:05] <polpak> Storkme, that would put the game in a subdirectory from your home directory
[07:05] <Storkme> polpak, yeh, is that not a good idea?
[07:06] <amias> lo all
[07:06] <everett_> how do I make it so this custom kernel module I compiled is loaded during bootup?
[07:06] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: i'm not really knowledgable enough about the deeper technical distinctions to be able to say much more than tha
[07:06] <tcpip> Jowi: yup i burned at 4x
[07:06] <] BreliC[> does USB2 function with Ubuntu??  It seems when I transfer tunes to my iRiver, it's pretty slow
[07:06] <Kirsch_> hey guys, i have a dual head card (ATI xx300 PCI-E) trying to get dual monitors to work... i have it mirrored but i can't get it to split off
[07:06] <poningru> ] BreliC[: ofcourse
[07:06] <yaaar> everett_: lsmod | grep 'modulename'
[07:06] <amias> is there a bugzilla just for dapper bugs ?
[07:06] <] BreliC[> poningru, i thought so, just can't figure out why it won't work with me...
[07:06] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: yes, usb2 hispeed should work
[07:06] <trappist> Kirsch_: if you're using the fglrx drivers run fglrxconfig.  it's got a great wizard for that.
[07:06] <everett_> thanks.
[07:07] <polpak> Storkme, it's fine
[07:07] <] BreliC[> yaaar, so an 80MB CD shouldn't take about 4-5 minutes to transfer, right?
[07:07] <amias> Kirsch_, do you have two device sections in your xorg.conf ?
[07:07] <pi9inE> polpak: I'm burning with that Instant
[07:07] <pi9inE> lemme see
[07:07] <polpak> Storkme, just means that only you can play the game on your computer, but that's probably what you want anyway
[07:07] <pi9inE> what will happen
[07:07] <polpak> pi9inE, ok
[07:07] <Jowi> tcpip: have you tried on another type of disk?
[07:07] <polpak> pi9inE, did you check the md5sum yet?
[07:07] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: are you sure you're plugged into a 2.0 port? some boxes have some of each
[07:07] <Fangz> Hey, does breezy have the kernel compiled with REG_PARM?
[07:08] <pi9inE> polpak: nope, I don't know how to do it (I feel so retarded)
[07:08] <tcpip> Jowi: no, i ll give it a try
[07:08] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: also, what speed is the cdrom?
[07:08] <] BreliC[> yaaar, pretty sure i am.  i wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that my mobo is nForce4.  do i need drivers for it?
[07:08] <Fangz> Or is there a way to check?
[07:08] <amias> Fangz,  have a loot at the corresponding config.2.6.xxx file in /boot
[07:08] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: come to think of it, i don't think cd-roms are fast enough to saturate even a usb 1.1 bus, are they?
[07:08] <Storkme> anyone know what specs are required for running the Q4 server?
[07:08] <Rapp> does anyone know how many packages [k] ubuntu contains? assuming latest release?
[07:08] <flogiston> Im trying to unzip a zip file. im using gunzip. Shouldn't gunzip -d file.zip work?
[07:08] <] BreliC[> yaaar, DVD burner... 16x write, and accesses CD at 52x I think
[07:08] <polpak> pi9inE, if you are already burning it's not a big deal
[07:09] <amias> flogiston, i use unzip for that , dunno if gunzip would work .
[07:09] <polpak> flogiston, depends on how it's zipped. You might have to just use unzip not gunzip
[07:09] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: what's the data transfer rate at 52x?
[07:09] <pi9inE> polpak: I feel always optimist when reading your and others answers at my stupid questions, god bless you all for patience :)))
[07:09] <flogiston> ill try unzip then
[07:09] <polpak> pi9inE, =)
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> flogiston,  use 'unzip' :P
[07:09] <djstillman> yaaar - 7800KB/sec
[07:09] <] BreliC[> yaaar, good question.  i'm at university/work right now.  i'll have to check when i'm home
[07:10] <] BreliC[> yaaar, gotta love FreeNX :)  working on my box at home from work
[07:10] <yaaar> ok, well, 7.8MB/s is certainly fast enough for a 12mbps bus to be a bottleneck
[07:10] <amias> yaaar, don't forget the extra protocol overhead. it eats up more bandwidth that you think
[07:11] <yaaar> yeah
[07:11] <ahz> Is there an easy way to clone a Ubuntu installation where the other computer may have a different size HDD?
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> ahz,  'mondo/mindi' can do that.. backups to dvd/nfs/samba - and can restore to different sized hds
[07:11] <pi9inE> am I have to do some "additional tweaks" on ubuntu to play mp3 on it?
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> ahz,  may be some other tools that can do it also.
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> !mp3
[07:12] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:12] <Rapp> is breezy already compiled with gcc 4.0?
[07:12] <everett_> It didn't work, the kernel didn't load. :/
[07:12] <everett_> the kernel module.
[07:12] <everett_> I wanted to load at boot. :/
[07:12] <EricCartman> hey
[07:12] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: can you pastebin the output of 'lspci' and 'lsmod' ?
[07:12] <EricCartman> does installer (for ppc) support resizing a HFS parititon ?
[07:12] <amias> everett_,  is it listed in /etc/modules
[07:12] <tcpip> Jowi: which burning s/w would you suggest for the cd?
[07:12] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: also, have you installed the linux-restricted-modules yet?
[07:12] <everett_> located at /usr/src/SRanger/modules-2.6.x/usb-sranger.ko
[07:13] <everett_> No amias.
[07:13] <Fangz> Rapp: Oh, I was going to ask that too. I'm trying to get OSS to work
[07:13] <yaaar> tcpip: gnome-baker seems to be an all-around good choice. but then, what kind of cd are you wanting to make?
[07:13] <djstillman> Rapp - When I tried to install the NVidia drivers from their site, their app said breezy was compiled with an earlier gcc version...
[07:13] <amias> everett_, the module itself will probably need to be in /lib/modules somewhere as well
[07:14] <everett_> Should I add usb-sranger.ko to the file? Do I need to copy and move the kernel module to where /etc/modules can find it once its listed.
[07:14] <everett_> thanks.
[07:14] <yaaar> djstillman: why didn't you just install the linux-restricted-modules package from synaptic? it's got the nvidia drivers
[07:14] <tcpip> yaaar: for win.. havent installed ubuntu yet.. got stuck with a seemingly bad install/live ubuntu cd
[07:14] <Rapp> DjKritical, hmm... sure? gcc-4.0 is at least available as a package in breezy...
[07:14] <yaaar> tcpip: oh
[07:14] <Rapp> argh
[07:14] <Rapp> i meant djstillman
[07:14] <amias> everett_, there should be a dir for each kernel version but i don't know where it should be beyond that
[07:14] <djstillman> yaaar - I did install those drivers, but I wanted newer...
[07:14] <Storkme> what does it mean in nautilous when a file has a yellow lock over it?
[07:15] <yaaar> tcpip: it's been a long, long time since i've burned anything w/ winders
[07:15] <yaaar> djstillman: ah, i see.
[07:15] <polpak> Storkme, means it's read only
[07:15] <] BreliC[> yaaar, http://pastebin.com/490515 for the lspci
[07:15] <yaaar> thx
[07:15] <amias> everett_, the build scripts for your module should have and a make install option
[07:15] <polpak> Storkme, did you install the program as root? or as your user?
[07:15] <HymnToLife> anyone has any idea about why the video is always too fast when I rip a dvd ?
[07:15] <ahz> Do the 5.10 repositories have OpenOffice.org 2.0.0/2.0.1, or am I doing it wrong?  I see only 1.9.x.
[07:15] <djstillman> Rapp - I know 4.0 is available as a module, but the nvidia installer said it was installed with an earlier version (I think 3.6...)
[07:15] <Rapp> hmm
[07:15] <foxgamer> Anyone able to help with an error 13 in grub?
[07:15] <Rapp> 3.4, if at all
[07:16] <] BreliC[> yaaar, http://pastebin.com/490519 for lsmod
[07:16] <Storkme> polpak, i'm still copying them from cd to ~/q4/
[07:16] <Storkme> polpak, how can i log in as root user?
[07:16] <Rapp> djstillman, maybe the nvidia driver was compiled with 3.3 or something?
[07:16] <Storkme> is that possible?
[07:16] <polpak> Storkme, the best you can do is sudo -i
[07:16] <Storkme> ok
[07:16] <amias> woo dapper updates are coming thick and fast now
[07:16] <polpak> Storkme, but it's not advised to run programs as root
[07:16] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: well, even before i look at that lsmod, i can say with some certainty that you're running without usb-2.0 capability
[07:17] <everett_> Hrm, where in /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/ should I move this custom module to? :/
[07:17] <] BreliC[> yaaar, i did install the restricted modules
[07:17] <] BreliC[> yaaar, hmm, could it be the lack of nForce4 drivers?
[07:17] <djstillman> Nah, the driver installer said it wanted to compile itself with the same version of gcc as it saw breezy compiled with, and in spite of having both 3.4 and 4.0 installed, it said it would not install...
[07:17] <] BreliC[> yaaar, i know there are some available at the nVidia site but wasn't sure what kind of problems I'd run itno
[07:17] <] BreliC[> itno=into
[07:17] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: you see how the usb controller lines say "unknown device" ....the autodetect doesn't recognize what usb chipset it is, so presumably it's loading only the most generic/lowest common denominator drivers
[07:17] <yaaar> k
[07:17] <amias> everett_, where did you get this module from ?
[07:17] <] BreliC[> yaaar, ahh
[07:17] <yaaar> you say it's an nforce4 board
[07:18] <everett_> Custom software to interface with an electron microscope. :)
[07:18] <amias> everett_, you wrote it ?
[07:18] <Storkme> ORLY?
[07:18] <] BreliC[> yaaar, yes
[07:19] <] BreliC[> yaaar, MSI amd64 nforce4
[07:19] <everett_> whoa, it's already in /lib/modules/2.6.12/extra/usb-sranger.ko, maybe manually insmod'ing it did that. ;)
[07:20] <everett_> brb lets see if it works. ;)
[07:20] <site>  i need SP2 FASST
[07:20] <site> but its slow from M$ site :(
[07:20] <Rapp> djstillman, and that sounds like the nvidia driver was compiled with 3.3... 3.4 is already incompatible to 3.3
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> site,  try download.com or somewhere.
[07:20] <cello_rasp> is there any way to remove entire dependency families when no other packages but the one at the top depends upon them?
[07:21] <cello_rasp> shouldnt have told me to install smb4k guys :|
[07:21] <polpak> djstillman, I must have missed it, is there a reason your not using the repo packages for your nvidia drivers?
[07:21] [blue-frog(n=james@<IP_ADDRESS>)]  !
[07:21] [blue-frog(n=james@<IP_ADDRESS>)]  !help
[07:21] <polpak> cello_rasp, trying to avoid KDE libs?
[07:21] <djstillman> Rapp - no idea.  have moved on for now, and will play with that later.  Right now I am trying to get my HP Laserjet 5si set up...
[07:21] [blue-frog(n=james@<IP_ADDRESS>)]  log
[07:21] <djstillman> polpak - yes, wanted newest drivers...
[07:21] <HappyFool> cello_rasp: check out deborphan
[07:21] <cello_rasp> polpak: running gnome and no kde, see it as wasteful
[07:21] <tcpip> i just read somewhere that DMA might not be enabled during installation.. anyone help me with that?
[07:22] <polpak> cello_rasp, So do I, but since I haven't finished writing a gtk version of smb4k yet
[07:22] <polpak> cello_rasp, ;p
[07:22] <HappyFool> tcpip: do you know how to start a gnome-terminal?
[07:22] <cello_rasp> polpak: i like the way nautilus does it, it has room for growth there
[07:23] <tcpip> thats before or after one has installed ubuntu?
[07:23] <polpak> cello_rasp, I don't. Nautellus doesn't actually mount it to the FS
[07:23] <HappyFool> tcpip: after
[07:23] <polpak> cello_rasp, so no command line tools can access the files
[07:23] <tcpip> well i am stuck with the installation itself
[07:23] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: that's odd
[07:23] <polpak> cello_rasp, and many other programs cannot see the files either
[07:24] <cello_rasp> polpak: that is just what is needed. godspeed brother
[07:24] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: you have the correct modules loaded....ehci is the usb 2.0 module
[07:24] <HappyFool> tcpip: ah. where are you stuck? what have you done so far?
[07:24] <stark-johan> maybe a silly question but how do I search for files? niether "whereis" nor "find -depth" gives hits for files I know exist.
[07:24] <CardinalFang> Hi.  Does BSD process accounting work for anyone else in Breezy?
[07:24] <amias> HappyFool,  Applications -> System -> Terminal
[07:24] <yaaar> stark-johan: locate 'filename'
[07:24] <CardinalFang> stark-johan: What do you use "-depth" for?
[07:24] <yaaar> stark-johan: 'find
[07:24] <yaaar> arg
[07:25] <polpak> cello_rasp, there's a way you can do it command line
[07:25] <cello_rasp> polpak: with smbfs?
[07:25] <polpak> cello_rasp, w/o smb4k
[07:25] <tcpip> HappyFool: i get an error 'data canot be read from CDRom'
[07:25] <polpak> cello_rasp, yeah
[07:25] <stark-johan> cardinal fang > isn't that the option to search subdirectories aswell?
[07:25] <CardinalFang> stark-johan: No.
[07:25] <yaaar> stark-johan: find is far more complex than that......it's a whole architecture for recursively matching files/directories against a large number of variables
[07:25] <cello_rasp> polpak: i assume those remain mounted from session to session?
[07:25] <polpak> cello_rasp, you just need to chmod ug+s /usr/bin/smbmnt /usr/bin/smbumount
[07:25] <amias> stark-johan,  find / -iname 'what you want to find'
[07:25] <polpak> cello_rasp, yes they do
[07:26] <stark-johan> ok. locate did the trick
[07:26] <polpak> cello_rasp, whereas smb4k will automatically umount them when you log out
[07:26] <HappyFool> tcpip: did you burn this CD yourself?
[07:26] <yaaar> stark-johan: if you just want to find a file named something, you want "locate" instead. note, however that locate depends on a database created by "updatedb" ...so if the file was added after the last updatedb run it won't show up
[07:26] <CardinalFang> stark-johan: 'locate' is a cached 'find' (plus a little permission magick), fwiw.
[07:26] <TCTCH> hey, I search a nice and easy mp3 tag and nameing programm (who is easy to install or in the reposity) any one got an idee?
[07:26] <yaaar> stark-johan: luckily, ubuntu automatically runs that periodically for you
[07:26] <aroben> Anyone having trouble with Dapper after an update today?
[07:26] <cello_rasp> polpak: i should clarify: does the smbfs daemon startup and mount on boot?
[07:26] <polpak> cello_rasp, did you use deborphan to get rid of the kde libs?
[07:26] <cello_rasp> almost
[07:26] <polpak> cello_rasp, oh. No.
[07:27] <polpak> cello_rasp, there is no smbfs daemon
[07:27] <polpak> cello_rasp, just a kernel module
[07:27] <yaaar> CardinalFang: that is absolutely false
[07:27] <tcpip> HappyFool: yup now iam trying to burn with deepburner
[07:27] <gorski> help for installing a printer, please!
[07:27] <cello_rasp> well there should be >:)!
[07:27] <polpak> cello_rasp, if you want your shares to mount on boot
[07:27] <polpak> cello_rasp, you can put them in fstab
[07:27] <murr-> locate is even better with -i
[07:27] <CardinalFang> yaaar: Oh?  Absolutely?  Wow.
[07:27] <Kindred> TCTCH: easytag?
[07:27] <stark-johan> yaaar > but I can run locate -update (or something) manually if I need to find a "fresh" file?
[07:27] <amias> aroben, fixed stuff for me , gdm was randomly failing and gnome-sessions where failing too
[07:27] <TCTCH> kindred: thx, I check that out
[07:27] <yaaar> CardinalFang: go read the find man page and tell me locate bears even a half resemblance
[07:28] <HappyFool> tcpip: it's probably worth checking the CD contents, using whatever OS you are running at the moment. I doubt enabling DMA will allow data to be read
[07:28] <aroben> amias, I seem to no longer have /dev/input/*
[07:28] <yaaar> CardinalFang: find is *not* just a search-for-files interface. it is a hierarchical file walker that can do truly amazing things
[07:28] <pi9inE> polpak: burned, let me see...
[07:28] <everett_> Woohooo. Okay, module loaded, my next problem: My mic recording level is EXTREMELY low. Any ideas?
[07:29] <polpak> everett_, turn up the volumn?
[07:29] <yaaar> stark-johan: just run "updatedb"
[07:29] <gorski> does anybody know how to install an Canon PIXMA iP1000 printer?
[07:29] <amias> aroben, there is a new udev waiting , you could force it to install with apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:29] <polpak> everett_, use alsamixer
[07:29] <yaaar> stark-johan: that will create the database....once that gets done do "locate <file>"
[07:29] <polpak> everett_, or the gnome volumn manager
[07:29] <pi9inE> polpak: WORKING !!!!!
[07:29] <pi9inE> polpak: I LOVE YOU !!!!!!!!
[07:29] <polpak> pi9inE, Congratulations
[07:29] <tcpip> HappyFool: the inbuilt integrity checker faced the same problem.. though the md5 for the iso itself is correct.. am currently under winxp pro sp2
[07:29] <CardinalFang> yaaar: I didn't say find is locate, I said locate is a cached find -name $expr .
[07:29] <aroben> amias: That may have caused the problem in the first place
[07:29] <pi9inE> ok, lemme check, 1st time installing Linux :) woohoo
[07:29] <pi9inE> :D
[07:29] <everett_> in alsamixer it says Item: Mic [off]  even though I record sound, barely, should I turn this on?
[07:29] <[Neo_xx] > hey after i write this "sudo /etc/cron.daily/prelink" something has to happen?
[07:30] <cello_rasp> polpak: re: deborphan: this is weird. apt-get install smb4k also installed certain kdelibs. smbfs does not require them. implying the only dependency was with smb4k. i uninstalled smb4k, yet deborphan doesnt pick them up. 0_o
[07:30] <yaaar> CardinalFang: 1)that's not what you said. 2)it's not
[07:30] <CardinalFang> yaaar: Long ago, it was that literally, iirc.
[07:30] <amias> aroben, provided you can still run updates it should go away shortly
[07:30] <HappyFool> tcpip: when you say md5 for the iso, you mean the .iso file before you burned it?
[07:30] <concept10> !info ruby
[07:30] <aroben> amias: That's my hope. Just wanted to see if anyone had had a similar problem and found a quick fix
[07:30] <amias> aroben, which nodes are missing ? you can create them easily
[07:30] <everett_> err, how do I go from [Playback]  to Capture in alsamixer?
[07:30] <tcpip> HappyFool: yes before
[07:31] <HappyFool> tcpip: for what it's worth, there's an md5sum.txt file in the root directory of the CD that contains md5sums for the cd contents -- i'd use that (on the burnt CD) to check
[07:31] <amias> aroben, i haven't rebooted since i upgraded yet , i may have that to come :(
[07:31] <[Neo_xx] > hey after i write this "sudo /etc/cron.daily/prelink" something has to happen?
[07:31] <aroben> amias: /dev/input/*, /dev/agpgart, and /dev/null seems to have wrong permissions (root:root 660)
[07:31] <polpak> cello_rasp, well I can give you the dependancies for smb4k and you can just remove them
[07:31] <tcpip> HappyFool: one can dl those individual files if they are wrong?
[07:31] <MaxEmtSti> need some help, i just configured Masqurading on my Ubuntu that has two network cards,one for internet and one for lan.Now the other computer[XP]  can see the ubuntu, but it cannot get to internet
[07:31] <amias> aroben, mine are like that and its not a problem
[07:32] <HappyFool> tcpip: well, they shouldn't be wrong -- if they are, the CD was incorrectly burnt
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> MaxEmtSti,  set the gateway ip for the xp box to be the isp's gateway ip - perhaps.
[07:32] <CardinalFang> Does BSD process accounting work for anyone else in Breezy?   $ sudo apt-get install acct; echo one; lastcomm |tail
[07:32] <aroben> amias: With /dev/null having those permissions I can't redirect to it (i.e   echo foo > /dev/null)
[07:32] <cello_rasp> polpak can you? thanks
[07:32] <MaxEmtSti> when i ping google from the xp it resolves the addres of google but no return
[07:32] <HappyFool> tcpip: the idea is to decide if the CD is bad, or if ubuntu can't use your cd-rom for some reason
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> MaxEmtSti,  OR set the dns server ips..  try pinging a site by ip, and by name..
[07:33] <rance> would someone be willing to give me a had with a scanner permissions problem, Ive got a new 5.10 install updated with the latest fixes last nite, my user is member of the scanners group but can not do a "scanimage -L" and get a scanner, but "sudo scanimage -L" can get a scanner
[07:33] <amias> aroben, my /dev/null is everything but executable
[07:33] <aroben> amias: But who owns it?
[07:33] <amias> aroben, root
[07:33] <polpak> cello_rasp, the KDE ones are libart and libqt3-mt and kdelibs4c2
[07:33] <[Neo_xx] > helo i was installing prelink and im stock in this part i write sudo /etc/cron.daily/prelink in the terminal but after that nothign happen
[07:34] <amias> rance, have you logged out and in again since adding your user to the scanners group ?
[07:34] <tcpip> HappyFool: ok i ll check the md5 for now and let you knw
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> [Neo_xx] ,  im guessing it should  start scanning/working ont he ssytem prelinking everything
[07:34] <MaxEmtSti> Dr_Willis, can u explain a litlle more
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> MaxEmtSti,  try 'ping <IP_ADDRESS>' and 'ping www.google.com' on the box thats not working
[07:35] <rance> probably not, just got home from the office for lunch, so not sure
[07:35] <rance> ill try it real quick
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> MaxEmtSti,  if you can ping by # but not name. = dns issue. if neither work = gateway issue.
[07:35] <yaaar> anybody around here want to help with a truly crazy cd/dvd autoload problem?
[07:35] <amias> yaaar, just ask
[07:35] <MaxEmtSti> Dr_Willis, gateway issue, how to fix it
[07:35] <[Neo_xx] > so i left that way until appears the $ again Dr_Willis ?
[07:36] <yaaar> video dvds either autoload correctly or not dependant on what the last disc in the drive was
[07:36] <syl> hello does hibernate have work with kubuntu 5.10 out of box ?
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> MaxEmtSti,  the GW for the xp box  perhaps should be eithe the ip of the Linux box.. OR the ip of the isp's gw..  not suire in your case which ya need
[07:36] <amias> syl, depends on the hardware
[07:36] <yaaar> if a (full) data cd was just in the drive, they come up fine....totem loads and plays the movie
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> [Neo_xx] ,  it may take some time for it to finish
[07:37] <syl> amias, asus p4p800
[07:37] <MaxEmtSti> Dr_Willis,  tell me what information to send u so u can see
[07:37] <str> hi guys, I couldn't find a way to display all contacts from my LDAP server without the need to enter some search parameters... is there a way to do so?
[07:37] <amias> syl, dunno , i haven't got one . the options are in /etc/default/acpi-support
[07:37] <str> ooops I meant in evolution
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> MaxEmtSti,  I just use dhcp for my system,  you may want to set up a dhcp server on the linux box. it should then tell the xp box the right info
[07:37] <yaaar> if a blank cd was in the drive last, they get autoloaded like they were blank....the icon is labelled "dvd-rom" instead of the volume label, instead of totem i get the cd burning dialogue, the drive isn't mounted, and starting totem manually gives me an error:
[07:38] <yaaar> "could not find mountpoint for /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab"
[07:38] <yaaar> but that fstab line is fine
[07:38] <syl> amias, hibernate says "kernel does not have any recent Software Suspend 2 support compiled in"
[07:38] <pi9inE> ok I'm installing it, what I need first ext2 or ext3? (sorry if I'm asking stupid)
[07:38] <yaaar> also, mounting it manually from the command line immediately launches totem and produces that same error
[07:38] <Manifold> Is E16 considered stable?
[07:38] <amias> syl, did you apt-get install hibernate ?
[07:38] <polpak> pi9inE, how are you wanting to set up the system ?
[07:38] <syl> amias, should i recompile kernel?
[07:38] <yaaar> opening the mountpoint in nautilus just shows it as an empty dir
[07:39] <polpak> pi9inE, are you dual booting with windows?
[07:39] <pi9inE> polpak: I wanna have dual boot
[07:39] <site> does anybody know  a good p2pprogram like limewire for ubuntu?
[07:39] <syl> amias, it's marked as installed in adept
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> site,  theres Limewire :P
[07:39] <demona> Anyone else having problems with smbiod going nuts and sucking up outrageous amounts of CPU?
[07:39] <polpak> pi9inE, have you looked at the dual boot howto?
[07:39] <amias> syl, are you using an ubuntu kernel ?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> site,  its covered in the p2p ubuntu wiki page.
[07:39] <yaaar> i get the same screwy behavior when i boot with a dvd in the drive, or if a dvd is the first thing i'm putting in the drive after it boots
[07:39] <pi9inE> polpak: nope
[07:39] <site> Dr_Willis,  can i just install it from their site?
[07:39] <LiGhTeNiN> is the kubuntu 6.04 stable enough? or should I get breezy
[07:39] <TCTCH> Kindred: that's a really nice mp3 tag tool...
[07:39] <pi9inE> polpak: that's why I'm asking
[07:39] <polpak> ubotu tell pi9inE about dualboot
[07:39] <site> can u give me the link Dr_Willis ?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> site,  go read the wiki.  - check the topic
[07:39] <yaaar> but it it's misbehaving, i can just pop the dvd out, put in a data cd (which loads fine) and then put the dvd back in and it works fine.
[07:40] <yaaar> (until i put another blank disc in and then try the dvd again)
[07:40] <syl> #amias, donno, 2.6.12-9-686 kernel
[07:40] <Kindred> TCTCH, cool - I haven't got around to playing with it yet :)
[07:41] <amias> syl, if you haven't changed the kernel it should work
[07:41] <site> Dr_Willis,  i cant find it
[07:41] <Manifold> Is E16 considered stable?
[07:41] <site> im on ubuntu wiki site and i cant find any limewire topics with search
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> wiki.ubuntu.com - enter limewire in the search  field :P
[07:41] <TCTCH> Kindred: its really fast and easy...very nice
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> or 'p2p'
[07:41] <cowboy__> salut
[07:41] <syl> #amias, i haven't...
[07:42] <pi9inE> polpak: should I set all of 29.5 Gb?
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> you may want to check the  search by keyword, not topic
[07:42] <cowboy__> hello
[07:42] <amias> syl, try apt-cache search kernel and choose the one for your architcture
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> !limewire
[07:42] <ubotu> limewire is probably first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[07:42] <polpak> pi9inE, you already have windows installed yet?
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Or just ask the bot :P
[07:42] <pi9inE> polpak: ya
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Manifold,  i dont consider it very stable :P
[07:42] <polpak> pi9inE, on the same driver you're installing linux?
[07:42] <syl> #amias, i'll try
[07:42] <pi9inE> polpak: i'm installing ubuntu at 2nd partition
[07:42] <Manifold> Hum.
[07:42] <site> DAmn limewire NOT on the list :(
[07:42] <[Neo_xx] > someone have installed the prelink?
[07:42] <yaaar> site: click the little lifesaver thing at the top of your screen
[07:42] <syl> #amias thnx
[07:42] <Manifold> What about Fluxbox, Dr_Willis?
[07:42] <yaaar> site: or type 'yelp' at the command line
[07:43] <polpak> pi9inE, ok, and the second partition is 29.5 Gb?
[07:43] <yaaar> site: then go to 'getting started guide'
[07:43] <pi9inE> polpak: ya
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> Manifold,  comparing E to Fluxbox is like caparing a Knife to a  NUKE. :P
[07:43] <site> ok
[07:43] <polpak> pi9inE, I'd suggest making 3 new partitions out of that 1 big partition
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> Manifold,  flux is very useable and stable.
[07:43] <yaaar> site: limewire instructions are in there....as well as great instructions for a whole bunch of things that most of us want
[07:43] <pi9inE> polpak: yes sir
[07:43] <polpak> pi9inE, how much RAM do you have?
[07:43] <pi9inE> polpak: 512
[07:43] <Manifold> Well, they are WMs, correct?
[07:43] <Manifold> :P
[07:43] <polpak> pi9inE, Ok, so you need to make one 5Gb partition
[07:43] <pi9inE> polpak: so you suggest 10, 10 and 9,5 ?
[07:43] <cello_rasp> thanks all! things work great now
[07:44] <pi9inE> polpak: ok one 5
[07:44] <yaaar> site: like getting all the codecs, and nvidia drivers, etc
[07:44] <polpak> pi9inE, format it ext3 and mount it to /
[07:44] <pi9inE> polpak: ok
[07:44] <site> thanx yaaar  i see :)
[07:44] <yaaar> have fun
[07:44] <polpak> pi9inE, make one 1 Gb Partition and format it as linux swap
[07:44] <site> will do :)
[07:44] <pi9inE> polpak: I set it tu 5Gb and it said small quantity
[07:45] <pi9inE> *to
[07:45] <polpak> pi9inE, I'm not sure you did it right then
[07:46] <yaaar> man, this really sucks. i added my second email account to evolution, and it won't finish refreshing the folders....and meanwhile, it won't switch to any other folders, including those on different accounts
[07:46] <pi9inE> polpak: I haven't created any now
[07:46] <Manifold> I'm gonna try Fluxbox.
[07:46] <polpak> pi9inE, did you delete the 29.5 gig partition?
[07:46] <yaaar> so i don't have any access to any of my email accounts
[07:46] <pi9inE> polpak: nope
[07:46] <yaaar> i've closed/reopened it and it just sits there forever
[07:46] <polpak> pi9inE, Ok, delete the 1 big partition you were going to install linux on
[07:46] <pi9inE> polpak: okj
[07:47] <pi9inE> polpak: done
[07:47] <polpak> pi9inE, the other partition (the one with windows on it) that was a primary partition?
[07:47] <pi9inE> polpak: yes
[07:47] <Manifold> Question. What's the difference between what GNOME is, and what Metacity is?
[07:47] <polpak> pi9inE, so now there is just your windows partition and a bunch of free space
[07:47] <pi9inE> polpak: exactly
[07:47] <polpak> Manifold, GNOME is a desktop enviornment, Metacity is a windows manager
[07:48] <polpak> pi9inE, Ok, create 1 primary partition
[07:48] <polpak> pi9inE, that's 5 gigs
[07:48] <pi9inE> polpak: ok
[07:48] <polpak> pi9inE, make it ext3 and set the mount point to /
[07:48] <ahz> I get apt-get update errors with Ubuntu 5.10.   I have to write sizes like 10000 for 10 Gb for example
[07:51] <djstillman> Speaking of evolution, any ideas of how to import emails from a .pst windows file??
[07:51] <pi9inE> polpak: i'm stupid :)
[07:52] <polpak> pi9inE, ah, no worries
[07:52] <cdsmith> cany anyone help me?
[07:52] <amias> night all
[07:52] <site> how do i install some python file?
[07:52] <site> .py
[07:52] <site> i downlaode d  bittornado
[07:52] <site> and i dont kno w how to install it
[07:52] <psusi> djstillman: get exhell to export them as proper mbox email
[07:52] <Manifold> How do I switch window managers?
[07:52] <djstillman> site - Use the one in the universe
[07:52] <site> how
[07:52] <LabThug> Anyone in here use Opera as their web browser?
[07:52] <yaaar> djstillman: if it was me doing it, i'd start by installing thunderbird on the winders box, using its import tool, then manually move the resultant mbox files over to linux, then push them into evolution
[07:53] <site> djstillman, how do u mean ?
[07:53] <HappyFool> site: using synaptic
[07:53] <psusi> djstillman: I think you can do that by selecting all the messages and save as?  but am not sure... never really used outlook
[07:53] <site> bittornado isnt therey Fool
[07:53] <site> HappyFool,  *
[07:53] <site> ;p
[07:53] <yaaar> does anybody know how i can make evolution respond to something? it seems frozen up trying to refresh folders on a new account i created, and now it won't do anything at all
[07:53] <HappyFool> site: then you need to enable the 'universe' repository
[07:53] <psusi> site: it is in the universe
[07:53] <yaaar> i've killed it and started it again, but it comes back to the same place immediately
[07:54] <site> Ok
[07:54] <site> how do i do that again?
[07:54] <pi9inE> polpak: so again: 1. part  5GB ext3 / - 2. part 1GB swap - 3. part ext3 /home all left space ?
[07:54] <HappyFool> !tell site about repos
[07:54] <mwe> yaaar: it probably is frozen then. kill it
[07:54] <yaaar> site: it's in that getting started guide
[07:54] <yaaar> mwe; uh....did you read where i said i'd killed it?
[07:54] <Fangz> Grr.. I'm having really weird problems with Jagged Alliance 2's sound. Whenever I do something that makes sound happen, no sound happens for about 5 minutes. Then it happens and loops indefinitely
[07:54] <demona> Nobody else having problems with Samba?
[07:55] <johns^> no :)
[07:55] <LiGhTeNiN> how do I remount a hdd with writing rights?
[07:55] <Fangz> Anyone seen/heard anything like that?
[07:55] <johns^> mount -o remount,rw /dev/hdX
[07:55] <yaaar> demona: my current problems with samba are probably actually kerberos problems...
[07:55] <psusi> LiGhTeNiN: don't specify ro as a mount option in /etc/fstab
[07:55] <polpak> pi9inE, yep sounds right
[07:55] <yaaar> LiGhTeNiN: what type of drive is it?
[07:55] <pi9inE> polpak: ok, going to confirm it
[07:55] <mwe> yaaar: I don't use evolution. does it have a settings dir like ~/.evolution maybe?
[07:56] <LiGhTeNiN> yaaar: ntfs filesys partition actually
[07:56] <marcos> ola
[07:56] <Fangz> Not neccessary the same program... just the same sort of glirch
[07:56] <yaaar> LiGhTeNiN: you're sol
[07:56] <Fangz> *glitch
[07:56] <polpak> LiGhTeNiN, can't write to ntfs
[07:56] <mwe> yaaar: if it does move it out of the way and see if it will start
[07:56] <yaaar> LiGhTeNiN: there is no write support for ntfs
[07:56] <i3dmaster> exit
[07:56] <LiGhTeNiN> oh no :I
[07:56] <site> i dont see universe in the synaptic
[07:56] <yaaar> mwe; i can already tell that my short experience with evolution is nearly over
[07:56] <MaxEmtSti> can somebody tell me what was the address on internet where i can paste some large text
[07:57] <polpak> ubotu, tell MaxEmtSti about pastebin
[07:57] <mwe> yaaar: yeah
[07:57] <pi9inE> polpak: it says: Installing main system (when I translate it) so looks fine? :))
[07:57] <psusi> site: click the box to "show disabled repositories" or whatever it was
[07:57] <yaaar> mwe; this was the first time i've tried using it.......i'm pretty much convinced now that it's a steaming pile of shit
[07:57] <polpak> pi9inE, seems good
[07:57] <mwe> yaaar: I use thunderbird
[07:57] <pi9inE> polpak: thanks a lot :)
[07:57] <yaaar> me too usually
[07:57] <Storkme> wierd, how do i run quake4 on ubuntu? i just installed it
[07:57] <site> yea i did did that [susi
[07:57] <site> psusi
[07:57] <psusi> site: then it should show in the list of repositores, just without a check... check it
[07:57] <mwe> yaaar: I think tbird is awesome
[07:57] <yaaar> yeah
[07:58] <site> Yes but i dont see universe in there psusu
[07:58] <site> psusi,
[07:58] <oupsla> salut
[07:58] <Kanye> can somebody please guide me or show a tutorial on how to open up universe
[07:58] <marcos> alguem fala portugues...
[07:58] <yaaar> really the only reasons i tried evolution out this time were 1)it was the default, and i hadn't ever used it....trying new things, and 2)on my other ubuntu box, where i use thunderbird, anytime i click on a mailto: link it pops up the evolution setup, which is tremendously annoying
[07:59] <site> i need universe too
[07:59] <blue-frog> Kanye, synpatic>repo>show disabled source...
[07:59] <Victor3D> MARCOS falo
[07:59] <site> w8 i got it i tjhink
[08:00] <mwe> yaaar: I don't use gnome but I'm sure you can configure it to open tbird for mailto links
[08:00] <HappyFool> !pt
[08:00] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[08:00] <OrngeTide> where do firefox and mozilla load their initial preferences from? I nuke the .mozilla and firefox directories from my home dir. and even uninstall and reinstall firefox and I have the same broken preferences (all the menus are empty). I know it's the preferences because it also uses my same homepage.
[08:00] <blue-frog> ohoh brazilian ubotu is female..
[08:00] <Kanye> repo?
[08:00] <Kanye> ki dont see that
[08:00] <marcos> valeu amigo
[08:00] <yaaar> OrngeTide: that actually sounds a lot like a broken plugin
[08:00] <site> no Damnit, i clicked on It i clicked on universe...... and a sec later its GONE :S
[08:00] <yaaar> OrngeTide: or extension rather
[08:01] <site> i dont know why or what i do wrong
[08:01] <OrngeTide> well I nuked /usr/lib/mozilla and mozilla-firefox
[08:01] <yaaar> OrngeTide: try moving the contents of your plugins and extensions directories to somewhere else and see if the problem goes away
[08:01] <OrngeTide> where does it get my home directory from?
[08:01] <Kanye> im on synaptic right now where do i find repo?
[08:01] <demona> grr, all i wanna do is play music from my other linux box, and konqueror randomly crashes browsing samba shares, and every so often while trying to play the music, smbiod goes into a death spiral sucking up tons of CPU. last night i actually had to do a hard reset :(
[08:01] <OrngeTide> i deleted them all. they don't exist.
[08:01] <fissy> site: open synaptic; click on settings menu; click on repositories option; click on add; check all the click boxes; click ok; close software preferences window; click on synaptic toolbar reload button.
[08:01] <demona> and google finds nothing helpful with smbiod load/cpu
[08:01] <oupsla> do you know the repositery for libavcodec2 (xdtv)?
[08:01] <Kanye> got it
[08:02] <yaaar> OrngeTide: i had that same problem one time because of the useragent switcher extension....i had upgraded firefox, and the extension was broke on the new version. had to remove that extension before anything would work right
[08:02] <polpak> demona, have you tried smbfs and smb4k?
[08:02] <psusi> demona: try switching to gnome? :)
[08:02] <OrngeTide> yaaar, yea. I don't have any extensions. /usr/lib/mozilla and /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox don't even exist.
[08:02] <yaaar> hmmm
[08:02] <demona> polpak, i'm using whatever the standard method is for mounting, df -T reports smbfs
[08:02] <MaxEmtSti> can some one look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6603
[08:03] <OrngeTide> also I'm curious as to where it's getting my home directory info from
[08:03] <site> i still dont see universe, but i foiund bittornado already so i think its installed :p
[08:03] <OrngeTide> s/home directory/home page
[08:03] <yaaar> demona: if it's linux/linux communication, why not use nfs?
[08:03] <polpak> demona, oh you set up the entry in fstab?
[08:03] <yaaar> demona: also, you could try mounting it with cifs instead
[08:03] <demona> cause i already had a samba server running on the other machine and i want it accessible to windows machines also
[08:03] <cdsmith> can anyone help me figure out how to get this new scsi card and drive to work in a already running system?  I dont want to have to reinstall
[08:03] <cdsmith> im sure its something simple
[08:04] <demona> one of the entries is set up in fstab, i hadn't put the others in there until i was sure they would work.
[08:04] <site> now i need to know how to open bittornado and where its located :9
[08:04] <Kanye> ok i tried to log in under root-but it says admin cannot login from this window how can i fix this? im trying to drop some themes i downloaded
[08:04] <psusi> smbfs and cifs are one and the same are they not?
[08:04] <polpak> demona, well I haven't had any such problems using smbfs under gnome & nautilus
[08:04] <stark-johan> I read a guide to run purftpd and pureadmin and I'm supposed to "debianize" the pureadmin sources, How can I do that? (or should I maybe just compile the normal way)
[08:04] <fissy> people new to irc, if your message is aimed at someone, put their name at the front of it and you're more likely to get an answer
[08:04] <polpak> Kanye, just use sudo
[08:05] <psusi> tell Kanye about root
[08:05] <demona> so far i havent had problems using mplayer at the command line playing mp3's from the samba mount. no cpu load, etc.
[08:05] <polpak> ubotu tell Kanye about root
[08:05] <polpak> ubotu tell Kanye about sudo
[08:05] <polpak> oh, their the same
[08:05] <OrngeTide> fissy, what if I want to talk to myself?
[08:05] <polpak> they're rather
[08:05] <OrngeTide> OrngeTide, hello.
[08:05] <cdsmith> ANYONE: any clue how to add a scsi card and drive to a alreayd running system without a full reinstall..  kernel picked up the scsi card at boot..but i cant fdisk the drive
[08:05] <fissy> OrngeTide, just like that :P
[08:06] <polpak> cdsmith, dmesg shows the drive?
[08:06] <psusi> cdsmith: what do you mean you can't fdisk it?
[08:06] <TecnoVM64> Anybody compiled the kernel 2.6.15 around here?, i lost the usplash after that :(
[08:06] <OrngeTide> OrngeTide, do you have any idea why firefox is broken?
[08:06] <MaxEmtSti> any 1 that lookd at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6603
[08:06] <OrngeTide> OrngeTide, nope. no idea
[08:06] <polpak> cdsmith, if it comes up in dmesg then you should have no trouble fdisking it
[08:06] <cdsmith> polpak: dmesg doesnt show the drive just the scsi card itself
[08:06] <TUKS> cdsmith: you want to move your installation to that scsi disk?
[08:06] <psusi> cdsmith: are you sure it doesnt mention the drive?
[08:06] <cdsmith> TUKS: no i wont just the extra space since i had a few 40 gig scsi drives and a ultra160 card layin around
[08:07] <yaaar> did you guys know that an nfs volume that's supposed to mount on boot will only work if you're using static ip addressing?
[08:07] <cdsmith> psusi: yes im sure
[08:07] <MaxEmtSti> I have 2 pc's one of them is running on Ubuntu and has two network cards,eth0 wich i use for internet and eth1 wich i use for lan.The other is XP has one network card and is connected to the Ubuntu. I came to the level where the XP can ping the eth0 address but no further, and when i try to ping google with the XP it resolves his address but gets no replay. Can somebody tell me what info do u want me to post so you can see where the problem is.
[08:07] <site> now i need to know how to open bittornado and where its located
[08:07] <yaaar> i just found that out last night.....doesn't seem like that should be
[08:07] <OrngeTide> .. so far my only idea is to reinstall ubuntu from scratch. I can't imagine where it's pulling these preferences from. it's driving me nuts
[08:07] <site> i cant find bittornado
[08:07] <site> i installed it but i dont know where it is now
[08:07] <site> with search option  i cant find it
[08:07] <yaaar> OrngeTide: you've completely removed firefox and reinstalled it?
[08:07] <OrngeTide> yaaar, several times
[08:08] <yaaar> hmf
[08:08] <OrngeTide> and when i reinstall it still has my old homepage. (and I deleted my .mozilla directory)
[08:08] <yaaar> OrngeTide: wow....that's creepy
[08:08] <yaaar> OrngeTide: all i can say is you must be missing it somehow.....
[08:08] <site> psusi,  u still here?
[08:08] <site> or someone else?
[08:08] <psusi> site: yes
[08:08] <dwhsi1> how would I tell Synaptic to look in online repositories for /everything/ (e.g. not look to the CD)?  I don't have the CD with me right now...
[08:08] <OrngeTide> yaaar, there is a step in the installer where it says something about the chrome registry. so that has to be where it's coming from
[08:09] <site> i cant find bittornado
[08:09] <site> i installed it but i dont know where it is now
[08:09] <yaaar> maybe remove it and do an 'updatedb && locate prefs.js'
[08:09] <site> with search option  i cant find it
[08:09] <psusi> cdsmith: then I'd say the drive isn't connected correctly or is broken
[08:09] <OrngeTide> dwhsi1, go into the repository option from the menu bar and delete the CD rom source
[08:09] <demona> possibly it's because samba 2 is on the server and samba 3 here on the workstation? L)
[08:09] <mufaddal> #rubyonrails
[08:09] <TUKS> cdsmith: does you system boot normaly?
[08:09] <OrngeTide> yaaar, Updating mozilla-firefox chrome registry...done.
[08:09] <psusi> site: you need to enable the universe repository and reload
[08:09] <site> i did that right?
[08:10] <site> cos i found bittornado in syn now
[08:10] <site> and installed it too
[08:10] <site> but now i dont know where it it is
[08:10] <site> i installed it but i dont know where it is now
[08:10] <psusi> it is installed on your hard drive silly ;)
[08:10] <fissy> site, try pressing alt-f2 and typing in bittornado
[08:10] <djstillman> site - Reboot and look in your apps menu...
[08:11] <fissy> site, that applet should auto-complete and help you spell it right
[08:11] <psusi> it doesn't get on the menu... just download a torrent and it opens
[08:11] <site> where on my harddrive
[08:11] <site> i dont see it
[08:11] <Storkme> wierd, how do i run quake4 on ubuntu? i just installed it
[08:11] <psusi> site: have you never used a torrent before?
[08:11] <site> yes i did
[08:11] <psusi> site: you don't run the program... you download a .torrent file in your web browser
[08:11] <psusi> and it opens
[08:11] <site> yep
[08:12] <site> but u can open it too
[08:12] <psusi> nope
[08:12] <site> cos i want to change port
[08:12] <fissy> wierd, when you installed it, did you remember where it said it was putting it?
[08:12] <psusi> download a torrent and when it opens you can change teh port
[08:12] <site> yes u can open a torrentclient :\
[08:12] <fissy> psusi, *
[08:12] <fissy> arse
[08:12] <fissy> sorry
[08:12] <fissy> Storkme, * did you note where the installer installed?
[08:13] <Chris_Tucker> anyone here experienced with ATi Cards/ tv-out?
[08:13] <site> hm, but i see btdownloadgui only psusi
[08:13] <dwhsi1> OrngeTide: that did it, thanks
[08:13] <fissy> Storkme, you probably need to run something like /usr/local/games/quake4 but i thought those installers were good enough to install a launcher into the gnome menu for you
[08:13] <psusi> site: that's it...
[08:13] <site> not bittornado in there in the menu
[08:13] <psusi> err...
[08:13] <site> no thats bittorrent
[08:13] <Storkme> i thought so, this one didn't
[08:13] <psusi> right... I told you, bit tornado isn't on the menu, it opens automatically
[08:13] <djstillman> site - that is bittornato...
[08:14] <site> so bittornado is standard in ubuntu?
[08:14] <psusi> djstillman: no, I believe that is the gnome downloader
[08:14] <djstillman> Mine says btdownloadgui and it is bittornado...
[08:14] <psusi> site: just go download a .torrent file ok ;)
[08:14] <tcpip> HappyFool: md5 on the burnt cd seems to be OK 'Files not changed.'
[08:14] <djstillman> That is even the name from the bittornado website...
[08:14] <site> ok, but how do i change the port ?
[08:15] <HappyFool> tcpip: hmm
[08:15] <psusi> site: under the options
[08:15] <site> im getting a error right now, and i cant click it away
[08:15] <site> it freezes
[08:15] <site> cant delete user configuration blabla
[08:15] <site> how do i close it?
[08:15] <Do[k] Ho`> re-bonsoir
[08:15] <Do[k] Ho`> qqu'un utilise gaim ?
[08:16] <djstillman> !fr
[08:16] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:16] <HappyFool> !fr
[08:16] <Do[k] Ho`> ooppss sorry
[08:16] <site> psusi,  i didnt see options in the bittornado gui neither
[08:16] <C-O-L-T> I AM BACK
[08:16] <site> k
[08:16] <ZooG> Hello
[08:16] <Do[k] Ho`> thx good bye
[08:17] <HappyFool> tcpip: so the CD is probably good.  I stuck a blank cd in my ubuntu box and it saw it and asked me if I wanted to burn anything. right after I finished reading the manpage for cdrecord to figure out how to use it. ahah:)
[08:20] <psusi> clicking the close button should pop up and say the app is frozen, force quit?
[08:20] <site> no nothing happens
[08:20] <site> i click on it nothing happens
[08:20] <Kyral> lol OrngeTide its suppposed to do that no?
[08:20] <psusi> then fire up gnome-system-monitor and kill the process
[08:20] <site> its freezed and i cant do anything
[08:20] <HappyFool> tcpip: i'm running out of ideas. if you have enough spare CD-R's, you can try burning at slow speed, but i doubt that will help. Perhaps you have unsupported hardware.
[08:20] <OrngeTide> pi9inE, about the same. linux doesn't have SpeedStep drivers. but it can do some power management. also linux is much more effecient with cpu than windows typically is.
[08:20] <site> i want to kill it
[08:20] <site> but how?
[08:20] <OrngeTide> Kyral, well I didn't realize it did it. i'm impressed:)
[08:20] <polpak> pi9inE, I'm not sure what you mean
[08:20] <site> psusi,
[08:21] <jahshua--> can someone tell me what i need to play .wmv files please ? totem isnt working nor VLC ?  :/
[08:21] <site> u know how to ?
[08:21] <foxgamer> site, use ps aux to find the PID number of the frozen app and then kill PIDNUMBER to kill it
[08:21] <psusi> site: I just said, fire up gnome-system-monitor and kill the process
[08:21] <djstillman> site - kill it from the gnome system monitor...
[08:21] <Kyral> OrngeTide: now you know my response the first time I plugged in my Digicam and GThumb came up and asked me if I wanted to import :D
[08:21] <site> ok
[08:21] <pi9inE> polpak: I mean if you using it somehow "normal" .. time for windows is like 2 hours.. can be extended a lil bit at linux, cause it's not using that much CPU and RAM
[08:21] <Kyral> jahshua--: I don't mean to be rude, but do you think getting Windows Media Video to work on Linux would to easy ;P
[08:22] <tcpip> HappyFool: u knw where during installation do i insert this 'hdparam -d' .. read it somewhere
[08:22] <blue-frog> tcpip, install from hdd so u will be fixed on what goes wrong..
[08:22] <OrngeTide> Kyral, people keep telling me "linux isn't ready for the desktop" .. well getting my usb scanner and network printer to work on linux was a heck of a lot easier than it waws on my gf's Windows XP machine.
[08:22] <jahshua--> Kryal no thats why im asking for help :)
[08:22] <Jowi> site: xkill is a nice command to know! type it in, point and click to kill it
[08:22] <Kyral> jahshua--: lol
[08:22] <HappyFool> tcpip: it's in the expert install
[08:22] <Kyral> anyway I'm off to lunch
[08:22] <MarcN> OrngeTide: which scanner do you have?
[08:22] <HappyFool> tcpip: at some point you're prompted for 'parameters for the CD-ROM drive' (or something like that)
[08:22] <OrngeTide> MarcN, an old CanoScan
[08:22] <HappyFool> tcpip: you can enter     -d 1      in the text entry area
[08:23] <site> i did Jowi
[08:23] <OneFix_Work> Umh, it seems that there's a problem on my LiveCDs (I got a package of the pressed CDs)...there seems to be an error durring the boot operation
[08:23] <jahshua--> Kryal wanna help ?
[08:23] <site> where is gnome system monitor  ?
[08:23] <OrngeTide> I ahve one on my network printer, but i haven't figure out how to do TWAIN over the network (but it's supposed to be possible)
[08:23] <tcpip> Happyfool: thanks will try that cya l8r
[08:23] <djstillman> site - applications > system tools
[08:23] <visit0r> hi, my computer does not boot after the latest kernel upgrade. I also suspect hard disk corruption due to this. anyone can help me?
[08:23] <HappyFool> tcpip: i'd be amazed if it helps, but it's worth trying. the expert install is a little tricky to use (not unexpectedly ;)
[08:23] <HappyFool> good luck
[08:24] <visit0r> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=627305#post627305
[08:24] <OneFix_Work> It happens specifically during the loading of "casper-udev"
[08:24] <visit0r> I posted more descriptions there
[08:24] <OrngeTide> well of fto lunch.
[08:24] <ZooG> Do any of you guys have few min. to spare on a noob?
[08:24] <djstillman> ZooG - What's up?
[08:24] <mwe> visit0r: boot from a live cd and run fsck. also sanity check /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:24] <ZooG> ADSL problems
[08:25] <fissy> ZooG, we can try our best
[08:25] <ZooG> I installed ubunto amd64
[08:25] <poningru> doesnt totem play mpeg out of the box?
[08:25] <ZooG> and so far it is working great
[08:25] <OneFix_Work> Ok, this is even stranger...I rebooted the machine and it loaded fine...
[08:25] <ZooG> apart from my PCI ADSL adapter
[08:25] <mwe> !mp3
[08:25] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:25] <visit0r> mwe: yes, that's the first thing I'll try tomorrow when I get back to work...
[08:25] <demona> Further data: I copied a 400Mb file over samba at the command line, with no problem, no smbiod going nuts and sucking up CPU.
[08:25] <polpak> pi9inE, I don't know. It'll probably be comperable. But perhaps not
[08:26] <ZooG> It is a Telewell TW-EA300C
[08:26] <djstillman> Zoog - is it shown in lspci?
[08:26] <Storkme> god installing quake4 on linux is proving to be difficult
[08:26] <TTilus> ZooG: pastebin you lspci
[08:26] <site> damnit, i cant find it in gnome system monitro
[08:26] <ZooG> tgood question?
[08:26] <site> how is taht command again
[08:26] <site> ps aux
[08:26] <djstillman> site - REBOOT!!
[08:27] <site> not yhet DJSlakoR
[08:27] <TTilus> djstillman: lame :)
[08:27] <mwe> visit0r: mm. is it an old bios?
[08:27] <site> djstillman,
[08:27] <raphink> djstillman: what's that option?
[08:27] <pi9inE> i made it! :)
[08:27] <imperfectus> Is there a GUI GTK Theme editor
[08:27] <pi9inE> it's done
[08:27] <pi9inE> installed
[08:27] <raphink> djstillman: you don't need to reboot a linux box :p
[08:27] <site> im downloading SP2 and its getting verrrrrrrrrrrrrry slow
[08:27] <ZooG> I am using windows at the moment..
[08:27] <everett_> ARGH.    But I forgot about build-essential. :/
[08:28] <djstillman> site - what window is stuck open with the error?
[08:28] <ZooG> but then agane I am new to Linux so I put that on me
[08:28] <ZooG> not the system ;o)
[08:28] <ompaul> djstillman, after a kernel upgrade which on a server unless due to security reasons should be less than once every year
[08:29] <visit0r> mwe: no.
[08:29] <visit0r> mew: quite new machine actually, has even a P3 3.4G CPU
[08:29] <site> djstillman, , this error : cant delete user configuration file blablablabullshit
[08:29] <ZooG> TTilus there is a network adapter and I think it reconices a ADSL adapter
[08:29] <rhythminmind> would anyone know how to deal with this apt-get error
[08:29] <TTilus> ZooG: first thing to check, does the card show up on lspci and second, what interfaces you have (run ifconfig)
[08:30] <rhythminmind> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/cpio_2.5-1.2ubuntu1.1_i386.deb: unable to open files list file for package `libxfixes-dev'
[08:30] <visit0r> mwe: worked quite fine until today's upgrade
[08:30] <zenlunatic> how do i backup my firefox bookmarks?
[08:30] <site> raphink, XP needs SP2 otherwise it doesnt see my harddisk
[08:30] <site> without sp2, xp sucks
[08:30] <TTilus> ZooG: where is "there" where there is a network adapter?
[08:30] <mgorbach> can someone help me out? i cant get my network connection dns configured
[08:30] <raphink> site: SP2 is one of the worse licenses ever
[08:30] <raphink> and XP might need SP2
[08:30] <raphink> but I don't know who on earth needs XP ;)
[08:30] <ZooG> TTilus: I will check this out
[08:31] <site> xp does need SP2
[08:31] <mwe> visit0r: it's just the error you get
[08:31] <ZooG> TTilus I wil be back in a sec with some usable info
[08:31] <Jowi> zenlunatic: they are located in your home dir under .mozilla/firefox/ and then a wierd directory name
[08:31] <site> but djstillman  i get that error , and now what?
[08:31] <mwe> visit0r: Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS
[08:31] <site> how can i kill it?
[08:31] <site> ps aux
[08:31] <site> ok, i see a bunch of files
[08:31] <mgorbach> can someone help me out? i cant get my network connection dns configured?
[08:31] <Belboz99> Hey, I've got a gstreamer error, how do I restart Gtreamer without rebooting?
[08:31] <TTilus> mgorbach: /etc/resolv.conf ?
[08:31] <rhythminmind> any apt-get gurus?
[08:31] <mgorbach> yeah i set that up it has the name of my nameserver
[08:31] <mwe> visit0r: that indicates the problem of some bioses booting beyon cylinder 1023
[08:32] <TTilus> mgorbach: what is your problem
[08:32] <site> how do i know where that btgui thing is located
[08:32] <visit0r> mwe: that's not my error, I replied to that message because I thought this is the same problem, but I didn't get that error. check the last reply.
[08:32] <tuhl> what has to be done to auto-probe an later installed X-sever?
[08:32] <mgorbach> DNS wont resolve
[08:32] <fissy>  $ whereis btgui
[08:32] <TTilus> mgorbach: what you do, what you expect to happen and what happens instead?
[08:32] <mwe> visit0r: ah ok.
[08:32] <fissy> or even better :D $ locate btgui
[08:32] <site> cd usr/bin
[08:32] <Jowi> zenlunatic: if you have several directories there look in .mozilla/firefox/profiles.ini which path is the one in use
[08:32] <site> wont help
[08:32] <mgorbach> well if i tell irssi to connect to irc.freenode.org, it doesnt work
[08:32] <site> wrong dir etc :(
[08:32] <mgorbach> if i give it freenode's IP ... it does
[08:33] <mgorbach> so clearly the connection is configured but DNS isnt working
[08:33] <lourdesisaac> hi
[08:33] <shining_> it's annoying, my laptop doesnt want to shut its mouth for a week now. it's making a lot of noise
[08:33] <TTilus> mgorbach: do you know what your dns server ip's should be?
[08:33] <lourdesisaac> anyone have a fix for a ps/2 mouse?
[08:33] <site> finally i got the error away
[08:33] <TTilus> mgorbach: can you ping them?
[08:33] <TTilus> mgorbach: whats the result?
[08:33] <shining_> When idle, it used to calm down, but it doesn't anymore. it's really weird
[08:33] <everett_> mwe, after two weeks of work, trying to get this stupid electron microscope software working (not even tested the hardware yet) I finally passed the last hurdle. Words cannot express how thankful I am. Now that I'm almost done with this software, hopefully I can get the electron microscope working, and then I can get back to working on the funding request proposal for a research center. thanks.
[08:34] <TTilus> mgorbach228: what says $ cat /etc/resolv.conf
[08:34] <concept10> has anyone safely resized a ext3 partition on a dual boot system with ntfs?
[08:34] <Belboz99> hey, how do I restart Gstreamer?
[08:34] <rhythminmind> nope only resized NTFS
[08:34] <keldo> hi everyone, I run linux for the first time every, it is beatiful
[08:34] <fissy> welcome keldo
[08:35] <keldo> thanks
[08:35] <keldo> it feel very good
[08:35] <concept10> I need to make ntfs smaller, larger ext3, not sure if if would be safe to do so, or not.
[08:35] <fissy> keldo, be sure to check out http://www.gnome-look.org too
[08:35] <poningru> concept10: it is save
[08:35] <Belboz99> concetp10, you might want to try reading about gparted
[08:35] <mwe> visit0r: ok. sounds like you could be in real trouble if fsck can't fix it
[08:35] <keldo> i shall
[08:36] <visit0r> mwe: yeah, that's what I'm afraid of :(
[08:36] <Jowi> Belboz99: you can re-register the plugins, but that's it.
[08:36] <Belboz99> okay, how do I do that Jowi?
[08:36] <visit0r> mwe: luckily I don't have too important stuff stored there, but still.. sucks..
[08:36] <rhythminmind> well i'm about to redo my ubuntu system. i'm not sure how to fix my apt-get error so it seems like the thing for me to do.. i've rynced my home dir but man this is still going to be a pain
[08:36] <mwe> visit0r: yeah
[08:37] <jared_> I'm trying to install a OpenLDAP server at home. what sort of stuff will be to configure after the apt-get?
[08:37] <site> why does my torrent not start?
[08:37] <Belboz99> rhythminmind, were you using dpkg?
[08:37] <Jowi> Belboz99: "gst-register-0.8"
[08:37] <visit0r> mwe: worse even is that I don't know should I install ubuntu anymore if it breaks again..
[08:37] <RedRose> is there any way i can limit or cap the amount of processor my users take up?
[08:37] <concept10> rhythminmind, what is your error?
[08:38] <rhythminmind> no i wanst messing with dpkg
[08:38] <rhythminmind> i've done that to
[08:38] <rhythminmind> =)
[08:38] <site> why does my torrent not start?
[08:38] <rhythminmind> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/cpio_2.5-1.2ubuntu1.1_i386.deb: unable to open files list file for package `libxfixes-dev'
[08:38] <mwe> RedRose: I don't know how to do it per user basis, but you can "renice" processes
[08:38] <rhythminmind> my error
[08:38] <site> i configured ports..
[08:38] <SirKillalot> Hi, I switched from gnome to kde with the meta package but I experience a problem playing videos in KDE.on Gnome and Enlightenment everything was flewently, but now I get lags in videos every 20 seconds or so if I scale it too big or even fullscreen
[08:38] <Belboz99> Jowi, the code executed fine, but it didn't solve my problem :(
[08:38] <SirKillalot> anyone got an idea what the problem could be?
[08:38] <djstillman> site, did you get my pm?
[08:38] <Jowi> Belboz99: what is the prob then?
[08:39] <RedRose> mwe: Well Just In General, So they can run a script to just clog up my processor...
[08:39] <mwe> visit0r: ubnutu doesn't break more than windows. less if anything. it's just bad luck
[08:39] <_oP> hello all
[08:39] <Jowi> hi _oP
[08:39] <mwe> visit0r: however, always backup important stuff no matter the OS
[08:39] <Belboz99> Jowi, I don't know.  I was playing some flac's and when I loaded some new tracks I got a gstreamer error and now I can't play anything
[08:39] <site> no DJSlakoR
[08:39] <site> djstillman,
[08:39] <site> no
[08:40] <Belboz99> Jowi, oh, in AmaroK
[08:40] <Jowi> Belboz99: do you happen to know which error?
[08:40] <Jowi> oh
[08:40] <keldo> fissy, i like that site, do you know one about php and apache too?
[08:40] <visit0r> mwe: sure...
[08:41] <RedRose> mwe:Any suggestions?
[08:41] <djstillman> site - check again?
[08:41] <Belboz99> Jowi, AmaroK is being rather vauge
[08:41] <site> ah the torrent starts finally
[08:41] <djstillman> lmao
[08:41] <site> dont know why it took so long
[08:41] <Jowi> Belboz99: try in totem or rhythmbox. they use gstreamer as well
[08:41] <Belboz99> Jowi: "some media cannot be played" "gstreamer error"
[08:41] <fissy> keldo, for installing them on a server?
[08:41] <site> i can get pissed when things dont work :p
[08:42] <djstillman> site - I saw...
[08:42] <Jowi> Belboz99: sounds more like you're missing a plugin. what are you trying to play?
[08:42] <site> hehe
[08:42] <Mindtzar> and the people in the ubuntu support channel
[08:42] <Jowi> Belboz99: could also be a corrupted file, but missing plugin is more common
[08:42] <visit0r> mwe: can't recall any other distro/OS corrupted my HD though, such a disappointment as Ubuntu is my fav distro
[08:42] <polpak> <3 ubuntu <3
[08:42] <everett_> Anybody ever use vnc2swf?
[08:42] <mwe> visit0r: I have never personally had a file system break down in almost ten in linux though I've seen one now and then
[08:43] <pi9inE> this linux looks lovely :)
[08:43] <Belboz99> Jowi, they were all playing fine ten minutes ago.  I loaded some flac's into Amarok and now ever media file I play says "There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins"
[08:43] <polpak> visit0r, you can't really blame ubuntu. The kernel is what controls the FS ;p
[08:43] <mwe> visit0r: I'm sure it's not related to ubuntu. I could have happened with any distro/os
[08:43] <rhythminmind> Belboz99: have you reinstalled the gstreamer plugins.. or tried del the .gstreamer-0.8 dir
[08:43] <visit0r> mwe: I had something like that with RH 6.0 years ago
[08:43] <pozdiy_> after upgrading to Dapper some GUI applications cannot open local display, what to do?
[08:43] <polpak> pi9inE, glad you like it =)
[08:43] <visit0r> polpak, mwe: true
[08:44] <keldo> fissy, someting about easy dhtml on a local test server
[08:44] <Jowi> Belboz99: ah. try to quit amarok. ps -A to see if gstreamer is still active and kill it (if a prog need it it will be restarted)
[08:45] <fissy> keldo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?action=show&redirect=ApachePHPMySQL <-- hopefully that is some help
[08:45] <bur[n] er> question of the day:  Pocket PC or Palm
[08:45] <everett_> What is a good way to back up? I'm even willing to buy a tape system if nessacary, if anyone has any recommendations.
[08:45] <everett_> Losing data on this machine is NOT an option. :/
[08:46] <visit0r> mwe: how heavily patched (compared to vanilla) is ubuntu kernel, btw?
[08:46] <bur[n] er> everett_: i use USB hard drives
[08:46] <everett_> hrm
[08:46] <everett_> with what program?
[08:46] <MastherOnix> aloooooooop
[08:46] <rhythminmind> everett: rsync to the firewire or usb drive
[08:46] <MastherOnix> llegueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:46] <bur[n] er> everett_: rsync
[08:46] <mwe> visit0r: I'm not sure. I use a custom vanilla kernel.
[08:46] <MastherOnix> mojojojo
[08:46] <MastherOnix> donde tay
[08:46] <Seicherl> hi there: noobish question: whats a good size for the swap partition?
[08:46] <MastherOnix> alop
[08:46] <mwe> visit0r: I think you were just unlucky.
[08:47] <Jowi> everett_: the simplest (read "cheapest") way is to save the files to a cd or rsync to a second HDD that you store somewhere else.
[08:47] <polpak> Seicherl, well, the kernel people still recommend 2x your RAM
[08:47] <mwe> visit0r: I don't think it's because of a bad kernel
[08:47] <everett_> So if my system died, how easy would it be to reload the entire OS without doing an installation on an identical system? Using Rsync?
[08:47] <ompaul> Seicherl, 2x ram up to about a gig or two
[08:47] <visit0r> mwe: well, the upgrade was not an upstream upgrade but a package upgrade, therefore I suspect it's not the vanilla kernel that caused this.
[08:47] <Seicherl> ok, so it's still the "twotimesrule"... been some years since i set up a linux last time
[08:47] <djstillman> bur[n] er - go for a linux asus pda or an older zaurus...
[08:47] <Seicherl> thank you!
[08:47] <polpak> everett_, well you'd essentially have to boot up from the usb/firewire drive and rsync back to your internal drive, then reinstall grub
[08:47] <Jowi> everett_: the "one-touch" external disks are quite handy.
[08:48] <keldo> fissy, thank a lot
[08:48] <visit0r> mwe: hopefully... well I'll investigate more tomorrow with the livecd
[08:48] <MastherOnix> rr
[08:48] <mwe> visit0r: still, an upgrade hosing your fs? sounds like bad luck or an unstable disk to me
[08:48] <Belboz99> Jowi, I got flac's playing again
[08:49] <bur[n] er> djstillman: know where to get an asus pda?
[08:49] <Belboz99> Jowi: MP3's are still a no-go
[08:49] <visit0r> mwe: exactly... but the whole machine is  brand new so I don't suspect broken HW, especially as it worked fine before the upgrade
[08:49] <Belboz99> I think I'm going to have to reboot, even though that's one of the reasons I switched to Linux
[08:49] <Jowi> Belboz99: reinstall gstreamer0.8-mad and run the gst-register command
[08:49] <Belboz99> k
[08:50] <everett_> Jowi, that would be best, because this electron microscope was built for my high school by me in my senior year, if the software dies while I'm in the navy, I doubt anyone in the city would have the expertise to install ubuntu, GXSM, and then the SRanger software. if the hardware dies they can always take it to M.S.U., any recommendations for a one touch drive?
[08:50] <Seicherl> how would you mount a fat partition you use for datainterchange with win? I mean the mount point (like /home or /msishell ...)
[08:50] <Belboz99> Jowi, lol, Gstreamer Mad wasn't even installed :P
[08:50] <BearHunter> I am thinking of installing ubuntu as a file/print server for a few windows xp boxes, I am still in linux newbie land and I have a few questions
[08:50] <Jowi> Belboz99: the mad package is the mp3 support :)
[08:50] <djstillman> bur[n] er - check your pm
[08:51] <rhythminmind> speaking of this.. does anyone know of a recovery system like mondo or norton ghost?  mondo isnt the best
[08:51] <BearHunter> i have used clarkconnect and SME server before and both were ok, how does ubuntu compare?
[08:51] <bur[n] er> djstillman: i have no pm
[08:51] <bur[n] er> djstillman: u registered with nickserv?
[08:52] <ZooG> ok back
[08:52] <djstillman> bur[n] er - I thought so...
[08:52] <keir> I have a asus z33A laptop. I got hibernate working with breezy (as in, 'sudo hibernate' does the right thing, a keypress brings it back), but when i close the lid breezy just calls xscreensaver rather than hibernate. how do i change the settings so the laptop hibernates when i close the lid?
[08:52] <Jowi> everett_: well, not really. Maxtor produces some that i know are pretty reliable. but as always, some people preffer one brand over the other.
[08:53] <bur[n] er> djstillman: on the asus website, all the PDAs are windows based
[08:53] <ZooG> TTilus in my Device manager I can se a Unknown (0x00ed)
[08:53] <Belboz99> Jowi, that's crazy.  I had libmad0 and libmad0-dev installed, and I thought that's all I needed from mad.  MP3's WERE playing for the past few days, but they just stopped
[08:53] <everett_> Hrm, yeah, maxtor is pretty cheap too.
[08:53] <djstillman> bur[n] er - At one point they had offered a pda that did linux...
[08:53] <ZooG> TTilus ADSL AccsessRunner PCI Abiration device
[08:53] <Jowi> Belboz99: gstreamer uses its own plugins. that's truly "mad" ;-)
[08:53] <Belboz99> Jowi, do you think that when I installed Mplayer it uninstalled gstreamer mad?
[08:53] <everett_> Yeah, I think the one touch drive will be perfect.
[08:54] <site> what is a good mp3 player for ubuntu?
[08:54] <site> winamp?
[08:54] <Belboz99> site: AmaroK
[08:54] <bur[n] er> djstillman: any recommendations between palm and pocket pc?
[08:54] <visit0r> I prefer amaroK
[08:54] <rhythminmind> rhythmbox
[08:54] <Seicherl> ups... i just did the partitioning at the installation and formated / as ext3. can i change that to etx2 afterwards (i had bad experiences with ext3)?
[08:54] <bur[n] er> site: amarok!  quodlibet!  rhythmbox!
[08:54] <djstillman> site - rythmbox like itunes, or xmms like winamp...
[08:54] <MeeKs_> is it practucal to use ubuntu as a file server
[08:54] <bur[n] er> site: beep-media-player
[08:54] <Kanye> how do i install power management or is there a laptop package for ubuntu that i can use?
[08:54] <bur[n] er> MeeKs_: definately
[08:54] <site> ok thanx a lot
[08:54] <leemoreau> Hey guys, is KDE or Gnome typically faster?  I have a old P2 400mhz with 32mb video and 400mb ram running Ubuntu.  I find it runs fast but its just switching windows and such that's slow.  Curious if KDE is any faster or if there's a better WM to use....
[08:54] <BearHunter> how about print server too?
[08:54] <Jowi> everett_: yeah the maxtor onetouch II are pretty price worthy i think
[08:55] <djstillman> bur[n] er - I have had many palms, and have always been unimpressed...
[08:55] <MeeKs_> bur[n] er: can i pm you
[08:55] <everett_> I'm wishing I didn't use such low-end hardware for this computer, but at least we are getting a expensive case/power supply and one touch drive for it. Even though it's a Pentium III with a 40GB hard drive. We were trying to cut costs, my high school almost went broke building the electron microscope. ;)
[08:55] <bur[n] er> leemoreau: Xfce... aka xubuntu-desktop
[08:55] <Belboz99> site: amaroK has built in Wikipedia and Lyrics, as well as awesome playlist creation and lossless audio compatabitlity
[08:55] <bur[n] er> MeeKs_: u can, i might leave soon
[08:55] <rhythminmind> nah kde is heavier in general
[08:55] <bur[n] er> djstillman: the Palm TX has my eye... as does the HP rx19xx
[08:55] <bur[n] er> KDE 3.5 is faster than Gnome I'd say
[08:55] <djstillman> HP has always been crappy for battery life...
[08:56] <leemoreau> burner if I'm already running 5.10 is it worth redownloading xubuntu and installing from scratch, or should I just install package xfce?
[08:56] <Seicherl> i just did the partitioning at the installation and formated / as ext3. can i change that to etx2 afterwards (i had bad experiences with ext3)?
[08:56] <rhythminmind> i prefer enlightenment myself..
[08:56] <bur[n] er> leemoreau: get the xubuntu-desktop package instead of just xfce
[08:56] <djstillman> bur[n] er - you have to have new?
[08:56] <bur[n] er> djstillman: i have to have wifi :)
[08:57] <BearHunter> does ubuntu support CUPS printing? I have canon bubblejet i want to connect to my ububtu server
[08:57] <djstillman> bur[n] er - http://tuxmobil.org/pda_linux.html
[08:57] <site> Belboz99, im downloadin it, amaroK
[08:57] <Jowi> leemoreau: maybe xfce or even ice-wm or qvwm is to consider
[08:57] <Kanye> i downloaded laptop wi-fi how do i access its interface?
[08:58] <leemoreau> Oh I didn't realize it was a package as well, so xubuntu-desktop same thing if I install, as downloading and burning the actual one without gnome?
[08:58] <bur[n] er> leemoreau: yeah
[08:58] <leemoreau> Oh great doing that now
[08:58] <leemoreau> Thanks a lot
[08:58] <housetier> can I tell make-kpkg to NOT make clean when (re-)compiling a kernel?
[08:59] <[Neo_xx] > i installed amsn but i didn't know that ubuntu already comes with gaim
[08:59] <[Neo_xx] > what other programs comes with ubuntu?
[08:59] <polpak> [Neo_xx] , many
[08:59] <bur[n] er> djstillman: know where I can buy one with linux and wifi?
[08:59] <bur[n] er> ;)
[08:59] <Storkme> god installing quake4 on linux is proving to be difficult
[08:59] <djstillman> bur[n] er - look for what you can convert to linux in that list...
[08:59] <polpak> Storkme, really?
[08:59] <Jowi> leemoreau: installed ubuntu on a VERY lowend p166 with 128mb ram the other day. go with the server install and then add what you need to minimise disk waste. go with a light wm. icewm is fast and use very low amount of ram
[08:59] <Seicherl> anybody plz gimme an answer
[09:00] <leemoreau> K
[09:00] <[Neo_xx] > how can i see all polpak ?
[09:00] <Seicherl> i just did the partitioning at the installation and formated / as ext3. can i change that to etx2 afterwards (i had bad experiences with ext3)?
[09:00] <Storkme> polpak, yeh, i just can't figure it out. what do i do with an .rpm file?
[09:00] <polpak> Storkme, apart from the downloading of files I'd have imagined it'd be fairly easy
[09:00] <leemoreau> Yeah it doesn't run too bad its really just a server but I'd like to use it once and awhile for other things so would be nice to be faster
[09:00] <BearHunter> I would like to install ubuntu as server on a 10GB drive and then add another drive for file storage later, is this easy to do for a newbie?
[09:00] <polpak> [Neo_xx] , go to system->administration->synaptic package manager
[09:00] <gnomefreak> Seicherl, ext2 and 3 are the same except ext has journeling
[09:00] <ompaul> Seicherl, not as far as I know
[09:00] <Kanye> is there a program for ubuntu that will allow me to set contrast,gamma etc on my hp laptop?
[09:00] <polpak> Storkme,  use alien to turn it into a deb file
[09:00] <Storkme> what? lol
[09:01] <polpak> Storkme, did you read that website I showed you?
[09:01] <djstillman> bur[n] er - http://www.handhelds.org/geeklog/index.php
[09:01] <Storkme> yes
[09:01] <[Neo_xx] > and then polpak ?
[09:01] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: the thing is i had problems cause ext3 has no filerecovery.
[09:01] <ompaul> Seicherl, 3 is better than 2 if your machine goes "wheeeee"
[09:01] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: thats why i'd like to have ext2
[09:01] <leemoreau> K here's another question then, is there any way in Ubuntu to find out info on my motherboard so I can look online to see what processor I can upgrade it to? :P
[09:01] <gnomefreak> Seicherl,  ext is ext3 same filesystem except ext has journeling
[09:01] <Belboz99> Jowi: I figured it out.  Somewhere along the line AmaroK changed it's engine to gstreamer.  I was using Xine.  Changed it back to Xine and it's all good agian :)
[09:01] <spoonaman2> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:01] <spoonaman2> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:01] <Jowi> Kanye: depends on the video-card. some video-card drivers also have those controls in a seperate app, gamma can be adjusted manually in the xorg.conf file otherwise.
[09:01] <gnomefreak> as far as i know they are identical
[09:01] <spoonaman2> whats wrong?
[09:02] <gnomefreak> spoonaman2, first thing is wrong is please use pastebin to paste
[09:02] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: ever tried to recover files?
[09:02] <Jowi> Belboz99: ah, haha. thought that you manually changed it to gstreamer cause you wanted it :)
[09:02] <blue-frog> could someone with chkrootkit make a check and tell if he/she has a warning with lkm pls?
[09:02] <spoonaman2> gnomefreak, it was just two lines thats why i pasted here.
[09:02] <gnomefreak> spoonaman2, next after you paste it to pastebin ask us again with the link to it
[09:02] <bur[n] er> thanks for the help djstillman, time to get shoppin ;)
[09:02] <Kanye> i have a p laptop when i was on windows i was able to twek how it looked using intels properties and photshops gamma program
[09:02] <gnomefreak> spoonaman2,  read /topic
[09:02] <blue-frog> on breezy preferably..
[09:03] <gnomefreak> Seicherl, no i havent had to
[09:03] <Kanye> it looks kinda dull on ubuntu thats why i asked
[09:03] <Belboz99> Jowi: lol, I vauguely remember Amarok doing that late last night because of some random error or something
[09:03] <djstillman> bur[n] er - Good luck.  You have me wanting to convert one of my pdas...
[09:03] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: lucky you. should i just "kill" the installation and start again?
[09:03] <Storkme> polpak, so what do i do with an .rpm file? (keep it simple please :p)
[09:03] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: its not finished yet anyway
[09:03] <gnomefreak> qhy Seicherl  cause its ext3?
[09:03] <spoonaman2> gnomefreak, it says nothing about my problem.
[09:03] <gnomefreak> why*
[09:03] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: yes and i HATE ext3
[09:03] <psusi> Seicherl: why?
[09:04] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: cause it killed all my holiday-photographs
[09:04] <polpak> Storkme, why do you have an rpm file.. I don't see it in the walkthrough
[09:04] <gnomefreak> psusi, he says ext 3 has no recovery
[09:04] <gnomefreak> file recovery
[09:04] <Seicherl> psusi: with no chance of recovering
[09:04] <plotino> ciao a tutti tranne a Windows .. :)
[09:04] <Storkme> polpak, something called libsdl ?
[09:04] <psusi> of course it does... it's journaled and has a fsck
[09:04] <polpak> Storkme, oh
[09:04] <site> hm, i dont hear anything, when i play a mp3
[09:04] <polpak> Storkme, you don't need that
[09:04] <ogra> Seicherl, they are 00% identical on the filesystem level, ext3 only has a journal file
[09:04] <ogra> 100%*
[09:04] <Kanye> Jowi, do you know a good wireless network manager program for ubuntu? one that will let me scan for networks etc
[09:04] <site> how do i know if my sound i setup correctly?
[09:04] <Storkme> polpak, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-82837.html
[09:04] <Jowi> i really like ext3, but it did have some random probs 4-5 years ago. now it is solid
[09:04] <psusi> gnomefreak: it is.... you can add/remove the journal with tune2fs to convert between ext2 and 3
[09:05] <Jowi> Kanye: nope, no wifi here
[09:05] <Seicherl> ok, could that anybody tell me how to recover files?
[09:05] <Belboz99> hey, anyone know how to add applications to the panel?  I have some applications that I have to load at the terminal.  They have to executed with either the "sh" or "./" and I can't figure out how to get that to work with the panel
[09:05] <ompaul> Seicherl, if you had come to me you would have had your files recoverd -
[09:05] <Seicherl> then, not that
[09:05] <site> how do i know if my sound i setup correctly?
[09:05] <gnomefreak> psusi, thats what i thought
[09:05] <somerville32> Just to let you all know... }Matrix{ tried to comprimise a box of my friends today using some weak kiddie-script tools. I recommend not giving out shell access as he might try the same on your box.
[09:05] <ogra> Seicherl, so you can recover files the same way on both
[09:05] <twilight> plotino, il canale italiano e' #ubuntu-it, qui si parla inglese
[09:05] <Jowi> !wireless
[09:05] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[09:05] <Jowi> !wifi
[09:05] <gnomefreak> psusi,  ive been saying that to him last 5 mins :((
[09:05] <ubotu> wifi is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[09:05] <plotino> ok this is the global ubunutu irc chan?
[09:05] <Seicherl> ogra: i tried. didn't work
[09:05] <ogra> Seicherl, how did you try ?
[09:05] <plotino> not italian ... :D
[09:05] <aTypical> Kanye, I believe networkmanager will show all wireless networks it knows.
[09:05] <site> how do i know if my sound i setup correctly?
[09:05] <ompaul> Seicherl, more than likely the superblock was bad and that is a * to recover from but it can be done
[09:05] <pi9inE> why it's on desktop only one icon - hda1 ?
[09:05] <Seicherl> ompaul: tell me, it's still mounted read only
[09:05] <site> busy here
[09:06] <ogra> Seicherl, if you dump the inodes and put the pieces together it works exactly the same
[09:06] <djstillman> site - what sound card?
[09:06] <psusi> I've been using reiserfs lately though... seems a bit better than ext... I can't wait for reiser4 to get into the kernel
[09:06] <Kanye> aTypical, do you know where i can download it?
[09:06] <Seicherl> ompaul: it was no crash, i deleted then incidently
[09:06] <site> uhm,
[09:06] <polpak> Storkme,
[09:06] <Storkme> hi
[09:06] <site> dont know djstillman
[09:06] <aTypical> Kanye, it comes with gnome, I believe.
[09:06] <gnomefreak> psusi, i heard it was worse but ive never used it :)
[09:06] <Jowi> site: play /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[09:06] <spoonaman2> why cant i use universe in breezy?
[09:06] <Belboz99> psusi, is it easy to convert to Rieser FS?
[09:06] <polpak> Storkme, err. Did you try w/o that nonsense?
[09:06] <djstillman> site - pm me
[09:06] <gnomefreak> spoonaman2, enable it first
[09:06] <ogra> Seicherl, but anyway, delete the journal and fix your fstab accordingly and you have ext2
[09:06] <polpak> Storkme, that was just that guy trying to fix a problem
[09:06] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell spoonaman2 about sources
[09:06] <polpak> Storkme, not the "standard" way to do things
[09:06] <ompaul> Seicherl, go get the coroners toolkit
[09:06] <psusi> Belboz99: yea... backup your data, format, and restore ;)
[09:06] <Storkme> polpak, i get that error when i do ./quake4
[09:06] <ogra> Seicherl, so its no prob to chage it post install
[09:06] <Seicherl> ogra: how would i do that
[09:06] <Kanye> how do we access it? i downloaded laptop wi-fi using automatix but i dont know here it installed
[09:07] <cAsTeL> hi all
[09:07] <site> does play Jowi
[09:07] <polpak> Storkme, ok, one sec
[09:07] <ompaul> Seicherl, I thought it was a crash
[09:07] <ogra> Seicherl, have a look at the tune2fs manpage
[09:07] <Storkme> ./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:07] <polpak> Storkme, what error?
[09:07] <gnomefreak> Kanye, dont use automatrix :((
[09:07] <spoonaman2> gnomefreak, it *is* enabled. it was working till yesterday
[09:07] <ompaul> !automatix
[09:07] <ubotu> automatix is, like, messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[09:07] <Seicherl> ompaul: just started google thx for that hint
[09:07] <Kanye> why is not good?
[09:07] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Kanye  about automatrix
[09:07] <Kanye> i already did should i delete it?
[09:07] <gnomefreak> damnit
[09:07] <pi9inE> polpak: why it's only icon named "hda1" at my desktop? how can I remove it? or why I can't explore it? I guess it's a Windows one
[09:07] <site> can u speak here djstillman
[09:07] <Seicherl> ogra: ok. thxs so far. so i can go on installing and do that afterwards?
[09:07] <psusi> Belboz99: or if you are crazy like me, you can shrink the ext partition down, format the free space for resier, copy files over, then blow away the ext partition and expand the reiserfs one into the space
[09:08] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Kanye about automatrx
[09:08] <ogra> Seicherl, yup
[09:08] <site> Jowi, , the song does play.
[09:08] <HappyFool> maybe automatix ?
[09:08] <gnomefreak> ompaul, ty but your not my type lol :)
[09:08] <Kindred> spoonaman2, have you tried sudo apt-get update
[09:08] <Seicherl> ogra: ok. thxs!
[09:08] <spoonaman2> Kindred, yes
[09:08] <gnomefreak> HappyFool, ty
[09:08] <Jowi> Stork: install sdl (apt-cache search --names-only sdl. that will give you some to choose from )
[09:08] <djstillman> site - too much to read too fast.
[09:08] <polpak> pi9inE, It's the windows drive. If you don't want it there you can instruct linux not to mount it on startup
[09:08] <Jowi> site: good. so it is set up ok
[09:08] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Kanye about automatix
[09:08] <spoonaman2> Kindred, it yeilds this ->Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[09:08] <pi9inE> polpak: ok I see
[09:08] <site> put in one line then djstillman
[09:08] <site> i can follow it
[09:08] <blue-frog> who has chkrootkit installed on breezy pls?
[09:08] <gnomefreak> spoonaman2,  use pastebin to paste
[09:08] <ompaul> gnomefreak, it was in the channel already I beat you to it :)
[09:09] <site> no
[09:09] <gnomefreak> ompaul,  lol ty
[09:09] <site> just join #site
[09:09] <polpak> pi9inE, to control what gets mounted you have to edit the fstab file. (/etc/fstab)
[09:09] <Storkme> Jowi, i've done that
[09:09] <pi9inE> polpak: but when I'm trying to open it, it says: You don't have authorization to check this folder.
[09:09] <ompaul> !tell blue-frog about chroot
[09:09] <ompaul> blue-frog, not something I need but there you go
[09:09] <polpak> pi9inE, that's probably because it's doesn't have the appropriate mount options to give all users access to the drive
[09:09] <psusi> chkrootkit?  the entire point of a root kit is that it can't be detected... unless you boot from removable media
[09:09] <polpak> pi9inE, to change the options you must also edit /etc/fstab
[09:10] <pi9inE> polpak: i see, lemme check
[09:10] <ompaul> psusi, is it not chroot?
[09:10] <blue-frog> ompaul, not asking about that
[09:10] <ompaul> ahh
[09:10] <polpak> pi9inE, is there a reason you want to access your windows drive?
[09:10] <ompaul> it is not
[09:10] <spoonaman2> gnomefreak, are you a bot? one line is ot paste.
[09:10] <psusi> ompaul: a chroot and a rootkit have nothing to do with each other
[09:10] <gnomefreak> spoonaman2, no but im warning you before they ban you
[09:10] <pi9inE> polpak: to drag some mp3 and movies if it's possible
[09:11] <polpak> pi9inE, ah. Ok, sure
[09:11] <ompaul> psusi, I read the start who has chkrootkit and leaft out the k
[09:11] <spoonaman2> gnomefreak, being an op does not give you the right to be an arsehole
[09:11] <jcole> what's a good gtk2 app for managing startup services in debian/ubuntu? the one in gnome doesn't support/have all of my startup services...
[09:11] <pi9inE> polpak: i don't have /etc/fstab
[09:11] <pi9inE> uhm
[09:11] <Kanye> can somebody please show me the proper terminal command to download network manager for my wireless management
[09:11] <gnomefreak> ompaul, do we allow pasting?
[09:11] <mitrovarr> can you run programs off a mounted fat partition normally?
[09:11] <ompaul> gnomefreak, no
[09:11] <polpak> pi9inE, I find that hard to believe
[09:11] <blue-frog> i'd like to know if others have false positive (well i think) about lkm with chkrootkit on breezy...
[09:11] <hippo> hi again. simple question now.... im running windows xp on a ntfs primary master c drive.... i have a secondary slave d: on fat32.... were i to try and install ubuntu to that drive will i tank anything? :-s
[09:11] <Storkme> polpak, Jowi, anything?
[09:11] <gnomefreak> ompaul, tell spoonaman2 that
[09:11] <polpak> Storkme, what is the error you get?
[09:11] <gnomefreak> hes telling me im being a bad word lol
[09:11] <moodog> Evening all.
[09:11] <spoonaman2> ompaul, define pastig?
[09:11] <ompaul> spoonaman2, you will leave the channel rather rapidly if you do not use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:12] <Storkme> ./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:12] <Jowi> Storkme: searching
[09:12] <polpak> !paste
[09:12] <ubotu> methinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[09:12] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[09:12] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:12] <mwe> Storkme: install libsdl1.2debian-all
[09:12] <pi9inE> polpak: only fonts and foomatic
[09:12] <spoonaman2> ompaul, iv been on IRC and #debian since the last 8 years.
[09:12] <Storkme> i did
[09:12] <ompaul> spoonaman2, any more than a line or two of output
[09:12] <Storkme> do that one
[09:12] <Sturgeon> "probably"?
[09:12] <polpak> Storkme, have you installed the SDL libs?
[09:12] <Storkme> yes
[09:12] <spoonaman2> ompaul, scroll up and see what I pasted two lines and then one.
[09:12] <Storkme> debian-all
[09:13] <gnomefreak> spoonaman2,  it shows as 4
[09:13] <psusi> one line paste != flood
[09:13] <Jowi> Storkme: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-101962.html
[09:14] <selinium> ping ajmitch....
[09:14] <spoonaman2> gnomefreak, get a larger monitor.
[09:14] <ompaul> spoonaman2, I am not looking for an arguement - friendly advice don't paste but you know that if you were in that other place and I did look at your pastebin
[09:14] <gnomefreak> spoonaman2, you cant read the topic and im the bad guy? fine keep pasting
[09:14] <ompaul> spoonaman2, I can't for the life of me think why that happens and I should know
[09:15] <ompaul> gnomefreak, leave it please you are labouring a point
[09:15] <spoonaman2> ompaul, I dont need to read the topic to know i shouldnt paste.
[09:15] <mwe> Storkme: did you read http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/?
[09:15] <spoonaman2> ompaul, but gnomefreak was just being a  jerk
[09:16] <ompaul> spoonaman2, can we get back "on topic" more to the point
[09:16] <mwe> Storkme: it suggests not installing the -all sdl package
[09:16] <spoonaman2> Kindred, gnomefreak I updated source.list with the link you gave ... I still get the same error.
[09:16] <ompaul> spoonaman2, lets all live on the same planet, now I am going to look at that pastebin again and then do some sniffing about I do have the answer
[09:16] <ompaul> just not to hand
[09:16] <mwe> Storkme: install libsdl1.2debian-alsa or libsdl1.2debian-oss instead it says
[09:16] <ompaul> as in the interweb has it
[09:16] <ompaul> :)
[09:17] <Seicherl> ompaul: If this tkt works on my recover problem, come to austia and the beer goes on me
[09:17] <Storkme> Jowi, i dont understand what that site is talking about :\
[09:17] <mwe> Storkme: did you read what I just said?
[09:17] <jjs> Ubuntu rulez! :-D
[09:17] <Storkme> orly?
[09:17] <mwe> Storkme: it suggests not installing the -all sdl package
[09:17] <mwe> Storkme: install libsdl1.2debian-alsa or libsdl1.2debian-oss instead it says
[09:18] <Storkme> i tried that mwe
[09:18] <cr4ck5h07> Hi I'm new I just installed ubuntu 5.10 and I just wondering how I can enter this command on gnome terminal sudo mkdir /media/windows ok it prompt me for a password but I cant type anything because it wont let me. I just want to have access to my microsoft windows xp  files (I'm dual booting)
[09:18] <polpak> Storkme, I like alsa better than oss myself
[09:18] <Jowi> Storkme: me neither, but that was all i could find
[09:18] <bimberi> cr4ck5h07: type your password - it won't echo in the terminal
[09:18] <mwe> oss is just emulated anyway when alsa is used on the system
[09:18] <polpak> cr4ck5h07, just type your password. It doesn't show anything because the password is masked (to keep ppl from reading over your shoulder)
[09:18] <blastmanu> hi
[09:18] <blastmanu> !op