[12:31] <LuNaTiK^GuY> how do i update kde 3.4 to 3.4.1?
[12:32] <bobbyd> LuNaTiK^GuY: it's i nthe topic
[12:33] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ...which i;m not understanding ;)
[12:33] <konrad> LuNaTiK^GuY: just add new repository and do system update
[12:34] <seth_k> sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list :) and add that at the bottom
[12:35] <LuNaTiK^GuY> add wot at the bottom?
[12:36] <seth_k> look in /topic
[12:36] <seth_k> deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main
[12:36] <seth_k> save, reload, update
[12:36] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'm new to all this plz be patient :)
[12:38] <LuNaTiK^GuY> 10q ;)
[12:38] <LuNaTiK^GuY> its workin ;)
[12:43] <liz4rd> hey monchy
[12:43] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i got in a little problem when playing with visual settings in kopete.....usually the nicks have an alternating background color....thats ok..but one of the colours is black...from where can i change it?
[12:43] <kangpeh> greets
[12:44] <kangpeh> I am in search of a genius who can teacheth me the benefits of using KDE rather than Gnometh.
[12:44] <kangpeh> What I meaneth by benefits are these following statements:  Looks, Multimedia, Cool, MacOS X ish, easy to use, speed, and so forth.
[12:45] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i think kde is snappier than gnome
[12:45] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and its got quite good eyecandy
[12:45] <LuNaTiK^GuY> u can also add widgets that will make it look more MacOS X-ish..like a Docker....u can do that with gnome too
[12:46] <LuNaTiK^GuY> its really all about personal taste
[12:46] <kangpeh> o_o
[12:46] <kangpeh> one problem i had
[12:46] <kangpeh> was when i use kde
[12:46] <kangpeh> i mean when i use gnome
[12:46] <kangpeh> the kde proggies dont have backgrounds in gnome
[12:46] <kangpeh> do the gnome proggies show up in the kde menus
[12:46] <kangpeh> backgrounds i meant icons lolol
[12:46] <kangpeh> do the gnome proggies work in K.D.E.?
[12:46] <kangpeh> will it be as fast as gnome
[12:46] <LuNaTiK^GuY> wot programs?
[12:46] <LuNaTiK^GuY> eg?
[12:46] <kangpeh> will people be awestruck by the pimpism of kde?
[12:47] <LuNaTiK^GuY> one question at a time plz ;)
[12:47] <kangpeh> i.e., GAIM, FIREFOX, THUNDERBIRD, SHELL (TERMINAL), XCHAT, GAMES(ALLGAMES), CEDEGA, Point2Play, sound software, porn viewing software, anime watching software, etc.
[12:47] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i am using gaim rite now
[12:47] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i am using firefox too
[12:47] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and i do get icons ;)
[12:47] <LuNaTiK^GuY> thunderbird too
[12:47] <LuNaTiK^GuY> kde has its own shell
[12:48] <LuNaTiK^GuY> xchat is available on kde too
[12:48] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i never used cedega so i cant tell
[12:48] <liz4rd> ok everyone its upload your screenshits hour!!!!
[12:48] <liz4rd> http://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload/ username: public password: user
[12:49] <LuNaTiK^GuY> u may ask some ppl around...i'm still a newbie...but i've tried some stuff with kde and gnome
[12:49] <monchy> lol again with the screenshots
[12:49] <liz4rd> LuNaTiK^GuY: do you know how to take a screenshot with ksnapshot mr KDE?
[12:50] <liz4rd> monchy: well, i never got to them befor
[12:50] <liz4rd> :P
[12:50] <liz4rd> http://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload/ username: public password: user
[12:50] <liz4rd> upload your screenshots
[12:50] <LuNaTiK^GuY> yes i do know how to take a screenie
[12:50] <liz4rd> (current ones)(like take them right now)
[12:50] <liz4rd> then take one ^_^
[12:50] <liz4rd> and upload it
[12:50] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but my desktop is empty!!
[12:50] <liz4rd> OMG
[12:51] <liz4rd> ARE YOU NEW???
[12:51] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ye
[12:51] <liz4rd> *tackels*
[12:51] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i just installed kubuntu today :)
[12:51] <liz4rd> welcome!
[12:51] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and its the most wonderful linux i've tried ;)
[12:51] <liz4rd> it is
[12:51] <LuNaTiK^GuY> it takes user friendlines...VERY seriously
[12:51] <kangpeh> help
[12:51] <kangpeh> how do i install kubuntu
[12:51] <kangpeh> im using ubuntu right now
[12:51] <kangpeh> is there an apt-get cmd
[12:52] <kangpeh> i can type
[12:52] <kangpeh> that will fully install KuBuNtU
[12:52] <liz4rd> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:52] <LuNaTiK^GuY> then just get the kde packages
[12:52] <kangpeh> or better yet something i can click in sinaptec
[12:52] <liz4rd> i think
[12:52] <liz4rd> somone correct me
[12:52] <kangpeh> huhu kubuntu-desktop no doubt :D
[12:52] <kangpeh> also
[12:52] <kangpeh> what other additional kde proggi3s should i get
[12:52] <kangpeh> to make my kde experience sexy
[12:52] <liz4rd> oooo ok let me see
[12:52] <kangpeh> i got a question, isnt most software written using GTK?
[12:52] <kangpeh> o_O
[12:52] <LuNaTiK^GuY> hmmm.....wots the name of the kde docker?
[12:52] <kangpeh> rather than kdesdk or wahtever its called o-o
[12:52] <kangpeh> yeah whats the name of the kde docker T_T
[12:53] <liz4rd> everyone should use XFCE4!!!!1
[12:53] <kangpeh> xfce4 sounds veyr difficult
[12:53] <kangpeh> heh
[12:53] <liz4rd> oh no
[12:53] <monchy> it's not
[12:53] <LuNaTiK^GuY> xfce is okay....but kde rocks :)
[12:53] <liz4rd> its really sexy once you figure it out
[12:53] <kangpeh> i wanna make my stuff beautiful and bloated though
[12:53] <monchy> oh liz4rd, i'm on 4.2.2 now lol
[12:53] <kangpeh> cuz like... bloated is the best way to go
[12:53] <kangpeh> when impressing girls
[12:53] <bobbyd> kangpeh: lots of software is writtern using QT...
[12:53] <kangpeh> :o
[12:53] <liz4rd> and lightwait and fast
[12:53] <liz4rd> monchy: you basterd!!!!
[12:53] <liz4rd> tell me how......
[12:53] <monchy> just use the .bin installer
[12:53] <kangpeh> ok i decided i'll try KDE
[12:53] <monchy> and presto
[12:53] <liz4rd> what did we do wrong?
[12:54] <kangpeh> but first i need to take a npap
[12:54] <kangpeh> nap*
[12:54] <kangpeh> brb
[12:54] <liz4rd> from the site?
[12:54] <liz4rd> it will over right the other one?
[12:54] <LuNaTiK^GuY> xfce is lightweight yes...but doesnt come close to offer the eyecandy kde does ;)
[12:54] <monchy> yeah liz
[12:54] <liz4rd> LuNaTiK^GuY: loonix g33ks like l337ness not eyecansdy ^_^
[12:54] <monchy> execute it from console and the graphical installer will start, thats it :)
[12:55] <liz4rd> while in kde right
[12:55] <monchy> right
[12:55] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i got a fairly powerful pc.....so i choose eyecandy ;)
[12:55] <monchy> i choose kde not eating 400mb of my memory ;p
[12:55] <liz4rd> lol
[12:55] <liz4rd> monchy
[12:55] <liz4rd> the graphical one?
[12:56] <liz4rd> http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.2/installers/xfce4-4.2.2-installer.bin ?
[12:56] <monchy> yeah that's it
[12:56] <liz4rd> alright going into kde
[12:56] <liz4rd> OMG 1.5 MB/S!!!!
[12:57] <liz4rd> k brb
[12:59] <LuNaTiK^GuY> is there a way to tweak konqueror for faster browsing?
[01:02] <liz4rd> k i must be a fucking tool how do i run this .bin?
[01:02] <liz4rd> monchy!!!
[01:02] <liz4rd> did he leave?
[01:03] <LuNaTiK^GuY> eg: in firefox..if at the address bar u write: about:config   u can tweak it....is there something similar in konq?
[01:03] <LuNaTiK^GuY> how should i know lol
[01:03] <monchy> i'm here
[01:03] <liz4rd> $ ./xfce4-4.2.2-installer.bin
[01:03] <liz4rd> bash: ./xfce4-4.2.2-installer.bin: Permission denied
[01:03] <monchy> throw sudo in front of it
[01:04] <liz4rd> $ sudo ./xfce4-4.2.2-installer.bin
[01:04] <liz4rd> sudo: ./xfce4-4.2.2-installer.bin: command not found
[01:04] <LuNaTiK^GuY> dont put a ":" in front of sudo
[01:05] <liz4rd> wtf are you talking about?
[01:05] <LuNaTiK^GuY> woops
[01:05] <LuNaTiK^GuY> sorry
[01:05] <LuNaTiK^GuY> my mistake
[01:05] <liz4rd> lol!
[01:05] <liz4rd> its all right
[01:05] <liz4rd> monchy... any ideas?
[01:05] <monchy> your in the directory where you saved it right? just have to check ;p
[01:05] <liz4rd> yeah
[01:05] <monchy> ok
[01:06] <monchy> chmod 777 the file then
[01:06] <monchy> need to be in root though
[01:06] <liz4rd> there we go
[01:06] <LuNaTiK^GuY> snybody ever used xpde?
[01:06] <kangpeh> ok one more question sirs or madams
[01:06] <kangpeh> how do i migrate to kubuntu
[01:06] <kangpeh> can u gimme the C.M.D.?
[01:07] <LuNaTiK^GuY> migrate from wot?
[01:07] <liz4rd> yeah
[01:07] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ubuntu?
[01:07] <kangpeh> UbUnT
[01:07] <kangpeh> yeah
[01:07] <tuerten> hi guys,
[01:07] <liz4rd> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:07] <liz4rd> tuerten!!!!!!!!!!!1
[01:07] <monchy> working now liz?
[01:07] <tuerten> any suggestions on how to unmount an uncooperative cd
[01:07] <liz4rd> whast up man
[01:07] <LuNaTiK^GuY> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:07] <tuerten> just trying to get to grips with this thing :)
[01:07] <liz4rd> LuNaTiK^GuY: already said that
[01:07] <Tm_T> tuerten: "lazy" umount and then "force" eject
[01:08] <LuNaTiK^GuY> did it work?
[01:08] <liz4rd> monchy
[01:08] <liz4rd> Verifying file integrity... OK.
[01:08] <liz4rd> Extracting the installer... OK.
[01:08] <liz4rd> Checking for usable C compiler... gcc
[01:08] <liz4rd> Checking for usable C++ compiler... g++
[01:08] <liz4rd> Checking for GNU make... make
[01:08] <liz4rd> Checking for package config tool... not found, see /home/liz4rd/.xfce4.installer-log for details
[01:09] <Tm_T> hah
[01:09] <LuNaTiK^GuY> kangpeh: did it work?
[01:09] <tuerten> thanks
[01:09] <kangpeh> its going now
[01:09] <microhaxo> Guys how the heck do i install wine, i have updated the apt get and it still says that wine is not found for installing?
[01:10] <kangpeh> im installing kubuntu-desktop
[01:10] <kangpeh> and the kubuntu-defaultsettings
[01:10] <kangpeh> 85 megs to be downloaded
[01:10] <kangpeh> it says
[01:10] <kangpeh> hehe
[01:10] <kangpeh> lets hope this works cuz i dont have a great computer
[01:10] <monchy> check the .log liz4rd
[01:10] <kangpeh> Radeon 9200, AthlonXP 2000, 512 mb ram :(
[01:10] <LuNaTiK^GuY> good.....u wont be disappointed.....i've started using kubuntu today and its the prettiest kde i've ever seen
[01:10] <microhaxo> Yea
[01:10] <microhaxo> i love the login screen :D
[01:10] <liz4rd> heh
[01:11] <liz4rd> hey mircro
[01:11] <microhaxo> liz4rd
[01:11] <LuNaTiK^GuY> kangpeh...its not a bad pc either.....
[01:11] <liz4rd> didnt know you were here
[01:11] <microhaxo> im always here :P
[01:11] <microhaxo> i need help installing wine
[01:11] <liz4rd> lol
[01:11] <LuNaTiK^GuY> download the i686 kernel headers too
[01:11] <liz4rd> sudo apt-get install wine
[01:11] <microhaxo> says its not there
[01:11] <LuNaTiK^GuY> after u get kde ;)
[01:11] <microhaxo> and i apt-update
[01:12] <microhaxo> i dunno wth is goin on
[01:12] <liz4rd> mmmm
[01:12] <LuNaTiK^GuY> also.....i got rid of most of the kde applets that i dont need
[01:12] <tuerten> um, sorry Tm_T i don't know how to lazy umount
[01:12] <airox> mount -l :)
[01:13] <tuerten> cool, ta :)
[01:14] <Tm_T> :)
[01:15] <andrea> LuNaTiK^GuY
[01:15] <microhaxo> liz4rd
[01:15] <LuNaTiK^GuY> :)
[01:15] <tuerten> is force eject, eject -f?
[01:15] <microhaxo> Eh
[01:15] <microhaxo> im just gonna get the RPM
[01:16] <liz4rd> yeah?
[01:16] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i think Konversation was a great app to include with kde  :)
[01:16] <airox> There should be kmobiletools and kde bluetooth framework into kubuntu :)
[01:16] <Tm_T> :/
[01:17] <microhaxo> whats the command to change rpm to DEB?
[01:17] <airox> alien
[01:17] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i think u can get those via kynaptic
[01:17] <LuNaTiK^GuY> mobiletools
[01:17] <LuNaTiK^GuY> not sure though
[01:17] <airox> Well I installed them.
[01:17] <airox> From a few other repositories.
[01:18] <Tm_T> LuNaTiK^GuY: I think it's bad idea :/
[01:18] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Konversation is a bad idea?
[01:18] <LuNaTiK^GuY> why?
[01:18] <microhaxo> arg
[01:18] <Tm_T> well, it's ok app but some of its features... just big NO
[01:18] <LuNaTiK^GuY> example?
[01:19] <airox> away script ? :)
[01:19] <Tm_T>  /colorizer
[01:19] <Tm_T> no, don't try it here
[01:19] <airox> hahaha
[01:19] <LuNaTiK^GuY> yes its not a fully blown irc prog
[01:19] <microhaxo> guys can you help me install wine?
[01:19] <Tm_T> and /sysinfo
[01:19] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but for an average person like me who doesnt really use scripts...its gr8
[01:19] <Tm_T> and others
[01:19] <airox> irssi has /rsay ;)
[01:19] <Tm_T> IRCSPAM!!1
[01:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> System Information for    [ tux ]
[01:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> OS/Kernel                 Linux 2.6.10-5-686-smp
[01:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> CPU Info                  Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz 3007.831 Mhz  Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz 3007.831 Mhz   5963.77 Bogomips
[01:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> 5996.54 Bogomips
[01:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> HD Info                   0GB total storage capacity
[01:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Memory                    180.469/1011.67MB
[01:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Processes                 92
[01:20] <airox> argh!
[01:20] <Tm_T> oh fuck
[01:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Uptime                    2:20
[01:20] <airox> hahaha
[01:20] <Tm_T> 02:19 < Tm_T> IRCSPAM!!1 ;--P
[01:20] <liz4rd> 0GB total storage capacity !!! XD
[01:20] <airox> heheheh
[01:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ur actually seeing this?
[01:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> lol
[01:20] <airox> in color and to many lines, yes
[01:21] <Tm_T> liz4rd: yeah, if there's sshfs or other "foreign" fs
[01:21] <airox> microhaxo: Why can't it be installed with apt-get ?
[01:21] <LuNaTiK^GuY> sorry for the lines
[01:21] <Tm_T> LuNaTiK^GuY: np ;)
[01:21] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i didnt know wot the command would do
[01:21] <liz4rd> oh
[01:21] <Tm_T> LuNaTiK^GuY: do it in #konversation
[01:21] <airox> :P
[01:21] <LuNaTiK^GuY> lolllll
[01:21] <Tm_T> I spent few minutes one day in there "testing"
[01:22] <airox> knotes is also handy :)
[01:22] <tuerten> um, sorry guys but i just can't eject this cd :(
[01:22] <tuerten> will rebooting do anything? lol
[01:23] <Tm_T> nah
[01:23] <microhaxo> Airox says its not there
[01:23] <LuNaTiK^GuY> do u have that tiny emergency eject thing on d drive?
[01:23] <LuNaTiK^GuY> try sticking a pen in it
[01:23] <Tm_T> tuerten: just use "eject"
[01:23] <airox> microhaxo: Did you enabled the multiverse and universe repositories ?
[01:23] <Tm_T> tuerten: I have one cd which jams cd drive
[01:23] <microhaxo> universe
[01:23] <microhaxo> not multiverse
[01:24] <airox> It's in universe.
[01:24] <LuNaTiK^GuY> why is knotes useful?
[01:24] <airox> Did you do apt-get update ?
[01:24] <microhaxo> yea
[01:24] <Tm_T> what's knotes =)
[01:24] <airox> sigh...
[01:24] <tuerten> command line eject /dev/hdc gives back :invalid argument :(
[01:24] <microhaxo> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:24] <kangpeh> yo
[01:24] <airox> Yellow sticky notes on your desktop ?
[01:24] <kangpeh> i need new sources
[01:24] <kangpeh> plz
[01:24] <kangpeh> my itanix.rutgers mirror
[01:24] <kangpeh> failed it
[01:24] <airox> Saves a heck of a lot money on those paper ones ;)
[01:24] <Tm_T> tuerten: yes, it tests all possible ways
[01:24] <LuNaTiK^GuY> wai tthen
[01:24] <Tm_T> tuerten: don't care about it
[01:25] <microhaxo> airox : Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:25] <airox> microhaxo: strange ...
[01:25] <microhaxo> yea tell me about it
[01:25] <LuNaTiK^GuY> kangpeh
[01:25] <airox> microhaxo: Can you enable multiverse ?
[01:25] <microhaxo> it took over 8 hours to install my ati drivers
[01:25] <microhaxo> heh
[01:25] <LuNaTiK^GuY> do the following in console
[01:25] <LuNaTiK^GuY> sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:25] <microhaxo> airox how?
[01:25] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and add to the end
[01:26] <kangpeh> lunatik?
[01:26] <airox> microhaxo: Using synaptic or editing /etc/apt/sources.list manually.
[01:26] <microhaxo> k
[01:26] <microhaxo> add it after
[01:26] <microhaxo> universe
[01:26] <microhaxo> ?
[01:26] <airox> multiverse you have to enable.
[01:26] <LuNaTiK^GuY> wooops
[01:26] <LuNaTiK^GuY> sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:26] <LuNaTiK^GuY> go there
[01:26] <airox> Just enable everything ;)
[01:26] <kangpeh> im in that file
[01:26] <kangpeh> lol
[01:26] <LuNaTiK^GuY> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
[01:26] <LuNaTiK^GuY>

[01:26] <kangpeh>  http://itanix.rutgers.edu/ubuntu <-- htis mirror fails it
[01:27] <kangpeh> i need a new one
[01:27] <LuNaTiK^GuY> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
[01:27] <kangpeh> ;o
[01:27] <airox> LuNaTiK^GuY: ....
[01:27] <LuNaTiK^GuY> <meta name="Generator" content="Kate, the KDE Advanced Text Editor" />

[01:27] <airox> uhm..

[01:27] <LuNaTiK^GuY> deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main

[01:27] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and add: shit!
[01:27] <LuNaTiK^GuY> sorry sorrry!!! its not my fault!
[01:27] <airox> :D
[01:27] <kangpeh> huh
[01:27] <kangpeh> add what
[01:27] <kangpeh> o-o
[01:29] <airox> LuNaTiK^GuY: another IRC client called irssi would tell you if you really wanted to paste that many lines ;)
[01:29] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'm helping him privately now ;)
[01:30] <microhaxo> BAH
[01:30] <microhaxo> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:30] <microhaxo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:30] <microhaxo> is only available from another source
[01:30] <microhaxo> HOW THE HELL DO I INSTALL WINE
[01:31] <airox> Why are you installing Wine btw microhaxo ?
[01:31] <microhaxo> games
[01:31] <microhaxo> lol
[01:31] <microhaxo> directx wine
[01:31] <airox> ahhhh
[01:32] <airox> Why can't you install cedega then ?
[01:32] <LuNaTiK^GuY> if u got a windows partition...keep using that for games me says :/
[01:32] <microhaxo> i have the RPM
[01:32] <microhaxo> airox if you can walk me through
[01:32] <microhaxo> ?
[01:32] <airox> of cedega ?
[01:32] <microhaxo> its the FREE
[01:32] <microhaxo> cvs
[01:32] <microhaxo> cedega
[01:32] <LuNaTiK^GuY> its not reallly free
[01:32] <airox> ah
[01:32] <microhaxo> yes it is
[01:32] <LuNaTiK^GuY> its got a lot of missing code
[01:32] <microhaxo> source is free
[01:32] <microhaxo> well
[01:32] <microhaxo> then i want WINE
[01:32] <LuNaTiK^GuY> yes it is free....but the source isnt complete
[01:32] <microhaxo> lol
[01:33] <LuNaTiK^GuY> require a lot of programming knowledge to complete urself ;)
[01:33] <microhaxo> bah
[01:33] <microhaxo> screw that
[01:33] <microhaxo> lol
[01:33] <microhaxo> gimmeh wine then
[01:33] <LuNaTiK^GuY> hmmmm........windows would be soooo much better for directx
[01:33] <LuNaTiK^GuY> if u have access to a win os
[01:34] <LuNaTiK^GuY> of course u can configure wine to use the win libraries installed on ur system
[01:34] <LuNaTiK^GuY> that would improve wine's performance significantly
[01:35] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but i dont use wine as yet..so i cant help much
[01:36] <Veinor> Can anyone help me to get my laptop to connect to the network?
[01:37] <airox> Yes.
[01:38] <airox> VMware 5 also has experimental directx support :)
[01:38] <Veinor> All right, here's the thing: whenever I try to access an external web page (Google, say), it says, 'Unknown Host'. I can access the router fine.
[01:38] <LuNaTiK^GuY> hey i updated my sources list....any refrshed my kynaptic.....and updated all pacakges....but i still have kde 3.4.0.....where is 3.4.1?? :(
[01:39] <LuNaTiK^GuY> control center still reads 3.4.0
[01:39] <monchy> did you reboot
[01:39] <LuNaTiK^GuY> erm no
[01:39] <LuNaTiK^GuY> do i have to?
[01:39] <monchy> yes
[01:39] <LuNaTiK^GuY> can i just restart kdm?
[01:39] <monchy> that might work too, i never tried to be honest
[01:40] <LuNaTiK^GuY> lemm try :)
[01:40] <LuNaTiK^GuY> give me the command plz ;)
[01:40] <LuNaTiK^GuY> or better...give me the unofficial ubuntu documentation ;)
[01:41] <microhaxo> Someone upload their sources.list to that paste site, i need it
[01:41] <microhaxo> :| mine is fubar
[01:42] <Veinor> could someone please help me with my internet connection!
[01:42] <microhaxo> seems fine to me?
[01:42] <Veinor> On my laptop
[01:43] <MoreFX_> hi. is anyone using Patrick Boettcher's dvb-t kernel module dvb_dibusb?
[01:43] <MoreFX_> I try to get my dvb-t usb-box running to no avail
[01:45] <MoreFX_> syslog tells me: kernel: drivers/media/dvb/dibusb/dvb-dibusb.c: did not find a valid firmware file.
[01:45] <Veinor> I could really use some help with my laptop's internet connection
[01:45] <MoreFX_> however the firmware is present (in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware)
[01:46] <MoreFX_> any ideas?
[01:46] <LuNaTiK^GuY> kde 3.4.1 ready :)
[01:47] <microhaxo> yo, who has a good sources.list file with everything working, i need it..
[01:47] <kangpeh> kde 3.4.1 ?
[01:47] <kangpeh> microhaxo
[01:47] <kangpeh> i have one
[01:47] <kangpeh> but its very standard
[01:47] <kangpeh> not really any extras :(
[01:47] <microhaxo> lol
[01:47] <microhaxo> i need extras
[01:47] <microhaxo> like wine
[01:47] <kangpeh> ah
[01:47] <microhaxo> and stuff
[01:47] <kangpeh> i use Cedega
[01:47] <kangpeh> and Point2Play huhu
[01:48] <kangpeh> i installed wine using ubuntuforums.org or something like that's sources
[01:48] <microhaxo> Well i cant even install a damn app
[01:48] <kangpeh> T_T
[01:48] <microhaxo> my linxu is fubar
[01:48] <kangpeh> ah
[01:48] <microhaxo> apt-get install wine doesnt work
[01:48] <kangpeh> whast ur error
[01:48] <kangpeh>  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:48] <kangpeh> paste it there
[01:48] <kangpeh> and then give a link
[01:48] <Veinor> hey, so is mine.
[01:48] <kangpeh> or is it just pkg not found type of thing
[01:49] <airox> .nl++ :)
[01:49] <Veinor> I can't get my internet connection to work (I'm typing this on a different computer)
[01:49] <kangpeh> veinor
[01:49] <kangpeh> wut interface
[01:49] <kangpeh> do u use for ur int3rn3t
[01:49] <kangpeh> ethernet?
[01:50] <monchy> lunatik guy, your not a cross dresser are you? i just noticed you were named andrea :p
[01:50] <kangpeh> andrea is a guy name
[01:50] <LuNaTiK^GuY> it depends
[01:50] <kangpeh> it is like a catholic type name
[01:50] <LuNaTiK^GuY> my real name is Andrea yes
[01:50] <LuNaTiK^GuY> its Italian
[01:50] <kangpeh> thats a very masculine name
[01:50] <Veinor> um, ethernet I believe
[01:50] <kangpeh> lunatik: exactly
[01:50] <kangpeh> veinor : is ur eth card detected
[01:50] <Veinor> Yep.
[01:50] <kangpeh> type /sbin/ifconfig
[01:51] <kangpeh> u got some kind of rout3r?
[01:51] <LuNaTiK^GuY> how can i permanently set my nick to LuNaTiK^GuY?
[01:51] <LuNaTiK^GuY> lol
[01:51] <Veinor> yep
[01:51] <kangpeh> veinor
[01:51] <Tm_T> kangpeh: please use "e"
[01:51] <Tm_T> and proper words
[01:51] <kangpeh> Tm_T: its hard for me mang
[01:52] <kangpeh> Tm_T:  being a lawyer i gotsta use 31337 words u dig?
[01:52] <monchy> mang?
[01:52] <kangpeh> lol :P
[01:52] <kangpeh> mang is like a ghetto word that lil flip uses
[01:52] <microhaxo> Guys
[01:53] <microhaxo> help me INSTALL java plz
[01:53] <Tm_T> ok, I'll be back when you use english again ->
[01:53] <kangpeh> Sorry, I will stop my use of unprofessional grammar.
[01:53] <microhaxo> someone please can you tell me how i can install java so i can install azureus?
[01:53] <kangpeh> At this time, I will begin to use proper English as such is suitable for your presence, Tm_T.
[01:55] <kangpeh> microhaxo:  You may want to open up a terminal and enter the following command:  sudo apt-get install java-common
[01:55] <Veinor> my ethernet card IS detected
[01:55] <microhaxo> it dont work
[01:55] <microhaxo> :|
[01:55] <kangpeh> Veinor:  Your next step is to see whether or not your router actually detects your eth0 interface.
[01:55] <Veinor> I can access the router...
[01:56] <microhaxo> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org unstable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7esmimram_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:56] <kangpeh> Veinor:  Somewhere within your router's configuration, which can probably be accessed using a web browser such as Mozilla Firefox, there probably exists a utility in which a listing of all interfaces connected to your router.
[01:56] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'mm off to sleep peeps ;)
[01:56] <microhaxo> when installing java
[01:56] <LuNaTiK^GuY> great getting in the kubuntu world ;)
[01:56] <kangpeh> microhaxo:  Your sources.list is damaged.
[01:56] <microhaxo> send me yours
[01:57] <microhaxo> lol
[01:57] <microhaxo> paste it plz
[01:57] <microhaxo> in that paste site
[01:57] <kangpeh> microhaxo:  You might want to revert to the following sources.list, as I will paste in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl.
[01:57] <kangpeh> Please hold.
[01:57] <microhaxo> k
[01:57] <microhaxo> thanks
[01:58] <kangpeh> Viewable at the following URL (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/84) is a copy of my sources.list.
[01:58] <microhaxo> k
[01:58] <kangpeh> You may notice a few lines which are commented (#) out.
[01:58] <kangpeh> Those lines were giving me errors, such as the itanix.rutgers mirror as well as the backport sources.
[01:58] <kangpeh> Therefore, those were commented out.
[01:58] <kangpeh> Uncomment those lines at your own risk.
[01:58] <microhaxo> holy shit
[01:58] <microhaxo> now i get like 300 errors
[01:58] <microhaxo> :|
[01:59] <kangpeh> Did you remove the 001 002 003 lines?
[01:59] <kangpeh> Not lines, rather, the 'words.'
[01:59] <microhaxo> didnt touch it
[01:59] <kangpeh> Oh, well BRB, I shall return.
[01:59] <microhaxo> k
[01:59] <kangpeh> I am going to switch to KDE as of right now; as I currently use Gnome 2.10
[01:59] <microhaxo> k
[01:59] <microhaxo> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_hoary-kde341_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:00] <kangpeh> Are you using a 64bit architecture?
[02:00] <microhaxo> yes
[02:01] <kangpeh> I can no longer assist you, as I do not use a 64 bit architecture and therefore lack the expertise which would be suitable for your guidance.
[02:01] <microhaxo> eh
[02:01] <microhaxo> you sound like a robot :|
[02:01] <seth_k> he's making a point
[02:01] <kangpeh> I apologize.
[02:01] <seth_k> after Tm_T bonked him for using 1337
[02:01] <microhaxo> lol
[02:01] <microhaxo> seth_k, someone help my ass
[02:01] <microhaxo> lol
[02:02] <microhaxo> i cant get anything to work :|
[02:02] <seth_k> 64-bit = scary, I'm not going there
[02:02] <microhaxo> lol
[02:02] <microhaxo> i just want to install an APP
[02:02] <microhaxo> lol
[02:02] <seth_k> super sweet if you can get it to work, but meh. best to find somebody else who uses 64bit
[02:02] <microhaxo> i keep getting this error
[02:02] <Tm_T> err
[02:02] <microhaxo> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_hoary-kde341_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:03] <seth_k> sudo aptitude update
[02:03] <Tm_T> :p
[02:03] <microhaxo> did
[02:03] <microhaxo> that
[02:03] <microhaxo> same error
[02:03] <microhaxo> heh
[02:04] <microhaxo> Building dependency tree...  :P
[02:39] <transgress> xchat is always ugly
[02:39] <kangpeh> Heh
[02:39] <kangpeh> Atleast, I want it to take on the themes :P
[02:39] <transgress> but there is some qt-gtk thing... search qt-gtk and i think it'll pop up... it'll convert all gtk themes to qt ones
[02:39] <transgress> and it is almost good
[02:40] <transgress> by search i mean in kynaptic
[02:41] <kangpeh> gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[02:41] <kangpeh> thanks
[02:41] <kangpeh> :D
[02:41] <liz4rd> brb everyone
[02:42] <kangpeh> brb
[02:43] <kangpeh> It works VERY well ;)
[02:43] <kangpeh> now to keep messing with this until it looks how I want it to
[02:43] <kangpeh> ;p
[02:43] <kangpeh> I thought someone said there was a Docker like app or something
[02:43] <penguinboy> VGA Compatible Controller:  ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW (Radeon Mobility 7500)
[02:43] <kangpeh> resembling MacOSX
[02:43] <liz4rd> penguinboy: lol ati not nvidia
[02:44] <liz4rd> so
[02:44] <penguinboy> lol
[02:44] <liz4rd> you have an ATI card
[02:44] <penguinboy> k
[02:44] <liz4rd> very unlucky in linux
[02:44] <liz4rd> :P
[02:44] <penguinboy> do xorgconfig again?
[02:44] <kangpeh> ATI card runs fine in linux
[02:44] <liz4rd> nvidia loves linux ATI thinks it ownes
[02:44] <transgress> ha
[02:44] <kangpeh> just get the newest fglrx from the website
[02:44] <kangpeh> ;)
[02:45] <transgress> you need the fglrx driver to set that up... and it works halfass in slackware... but it's possible
[02:45] <kangpeh> Ok, transgress...
[02:45] <kangpeh> my 'gaim' icon
[02:45] <kangpeh> on the uhh, kicker i guess its called? the panel...
[02:45] <penguinboy> so should I just install Kubuntu and you help me get my wireless working???
[02:45] <kangpeh> like there is a klipboard icon, a calendar/system bell icon, and then the gaim icon
[02:45] <kangpeh> but the gaim icon doesn't match the color scheme
[02:45] <kangpeh> so there is a 'box' around it
[02:45] <kangpeh> what do i do to fix that
[02:45] <transgress> penguinboy: i can help you with that sure
[02:45] <penguinboy> great
[02:45] <transgress> penguinboy: especially if you install kubuntu...
[02:45] <penguinboy> let me install Kubuntu
[02:46] <transgress> penguinboy: what kind of processor?
[02:46] <penguinboy> mmm
[02:46] <liz4rd> penguinboy: yes install kubuntu not ubuntu
[02:46] <liz4rd> :)
[02:46] <transgress> umm how about this... what model laptop is it?
[02:46] <liz4rd> brb supper
[02:47] <penguinboy> Intel Corp. 82855PM Processor......It is an IBm Thinkpad R40 Type 2723-3XU
[02:48] <penguinboy> install Kubuntu now?
[02:48] <transgress> yar
[02:50] <penguinboy> the wireles is...Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter
[02:50] <transgress> that'll require ndiswrapper... but it's easy enough
[02:50] <microhaxo> TRANSGRESS i need majro help, PM chat help plz..
[02:50] <microhaxo> Tm_t says strange lol
[02:51] <transgress> yeah sure pm me
[02:51] <Tm_T> I give up, foood ->
[02:53] <liz4rd> back
[02:54] <penguinboy> that was fast
[02:54] <penguinboy> what did you eat?
[02:54] <penguinboy> you ate in seven minutes
[02:57] <penguinboy> two trangresses?
[02:57] <transgress_> laptop
[02:57] <transgress> desktop
[02:57] <penguinboy> hey
[02:57] <penguinboy> oh
[02:57] <penguinboy> kewl
[02:58] <liz4rd> penguinboy: yeah :P
[02:58] <penguinboy> what could you possibly eat in seven minutes?
[02:59] <penguinboy> 8/
[02:59] <penguinboy> hey Gombeni
[02:59] <Gombeni> hey
[03:00] <penguinboy> Welcoem to the rumba room
[03:00] <penguinboy> Welcoem Joel!
[03:00] <Gombeni> are you a bot? :D
[03:00] <penguinboy> i don;t think so
[03:00] <Gombeni> oops! sorry :D
[03:00] <penguinboy> lol
[03:01] <_joel> hey guys i have problem with firefox, text disappears until a mouse over
[03:01] <_joel> on a link
[03:01] <transgress_> on every site?
[03:01] <Gombeni> I am going to try kubuntu.
[03:01] <transgress_> good for you
[03:01] <Gombeni> I just need to know about it
[03:01] <penguinboy> Kubuntu is WONDERFUL!
[03:01] <transgress_> well it's a debian based distro and YOU CAN FIND THE INFO ON THE SITE ;)
[03:01] <Gombeni> and I am here just to see what are the problems with it ;)
[03:02] <penguinboy> there he goes again with that RTFM again! LOL
[03:02] <Gombeni> yep. I am asking nothing, just hearing :)
[03:02] <penguinboy> Hey Seth!!!
[03:02] <transgress_> umm only problem i had with it was i had some goofy sound problems involving it loading modules for my onboard sound and my soundcard... but other than that i haven't really had problems with it
[03:03] <Gombeni> I tried fedora and hated their gnome-based distro
[03:03] <penguinboy> and trangress is one of the ore learned amongst us
[03:03] <transgress_> umm it's not gnome-based
[03:03] <transgress_> kde is offered right in the install
[03:03] <transgress_> in big bold letters
[03:03] <liz4rd> :P
[03:03] <penguinboy> Ubuntu is Gnome...Kubuntu is Winderful KDE!
[03:03] <liz4rd> yup
[03:03] <transgress_> ha more learned... eh i just do what i can
[03:03] <penguinboy> he is modest
[03:04] <penguinboy> but watch him when he fires up the chainsaw
[03:04] <transgress_> ha modest... i just do what i can
[03:04] <penguinboy> trangress....lizard...and I are involved in a menage a trois!
[03:05] <penguinboy> I am the cutest of the bunch!
[03:05] <transgress_> until i pistol whip you that is
[03:05] <penguinboy> lol
[03:05] <Gombeni> I have heard enough of kubuntu so it brought me here. the only thing that I am in doubt is the relation with ubuntu/gnome. In fedora which I have always used, most of the system settings are in gnome, so kde is very shallow there
[03:05] <penguinboy> yes...now I have these hideous facial welts
[03:06] <liz4rd> lol
[03:06] <liz4rd> now now boys
[03:06] <liz4rd> :P
[03:06] <transgress_> Gombeni: well everything is fine with kubuntu and kde here... all kinds of packages... just like in fedora if you look hard enough
[03:06] <penguinboy> the neat thing about Ubuntu/Kubuntu is that it is updated every 6 months
[03:06] <liz4rd> ehst
[03:07] <liz4rd> what
[03:07] <liz4rd> is it
[03:07] <liz4rd> do you have to install it all over again ?
[03:07] <penguinboy> apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:07] <liz4rd> oh yeah
[03:07] <liz4rd> :P
[03:07] <penguinboy> LOL
[03:07] <transgress_> nah... just change the repo's in your sources and dist-upgrade
[03:07] <transgress_> aptitude is apparently better... i'm still having to get used to it
[03:08] <transgress_> this concrete jungle...
[03:08] <penguinboy> transgress you are not leaving any time soon are you???
[03:08] <liz4rd> he always leaves :(
[03:08] <Gombeni> let me confess: I just need to have a pure kde machine. I know many things can be done but the way fedora sets up gnome reminds me of Microsoft using msn messenger hard etched down there.
[03:08] <transgress_> i work at my computer until 1am
[03:08] <transgress_> so i'll be around
[03:08] <liz4rd> its why i have you now
[03:09] <penguinboy> LOL
[03:09] <liz4rd> ^_^
[03:09] <penguinboy> my little buttercuo
[03:09] <liz4rd> yes my lil muffen eater
[03:09] <penguinboy> Gombeni Kubuntu is a pre KDE Machine!
[03:09] <Gombeni> gnome free? ;)
[03:09] <penguinboy> would that be a cranberry muffin, perchance?
[03:09] <liz4rd> Gombeni: yup
[03:10] <transgress_> Gombeni: as long as you tell it to be
[03:10] <penguinboy> i think you can install gnome....
[03:10] <penguinboy> but who would want to?
[03:10] <transgress_> Gombeni: if you are hardcore concerned about it... check out suse
[03:10] <liz4rd> penguinboy: yes it can be whatever you want it to be :P
[03:10] <penguinboy> i like SuSE
[03:10] <penguinboy> YAST is kewl
[03:10] <liz4rd> i did to
[03:10] <liz4rd> yeah really easy
[03:10] <penguinboy> APT is better though
[03:10] <penguinboy> imho
[03:11] <transgress_> apt has far more items
[03:11] <Gombeni> is suse alive anymore? is it consumed by novell or improved?
[03:11] <liz4rd> its improved
[03:11] <penguinboy> SuSE is alive....9.2a i believe
[03:11] <transgress_> it's still a very good distro
[03:11] <liz4rd> sude 9.3 just came out
[03:11] <transgress_> 9.3 is out... but not free yet
[03:11] <liz4rd> never stoped me ;)
[03:11] <penguinboy> that is the pay version....WE DO NOT PAY FOR SOFTWARE!!!
[03:11] <penguinboy> we are living FOSS
[03:12] <transgress_> well it'll be up on the ftp site soon enough... but they always offer the CD/DVD version for pay first
[03:12] <_joel> anyone notice any CSS problems with the ubuntu release of firefox?
[03:12] <penguinboy> SuSE is very user friendly
[03:12] <Gombeni> I am not going to pay for it, neither M$ nor Novell
[03:12] <penguinboy> AMEN
[03:12] <transgress_> because they are competing with redhat... but they aren't as big and do require end users as well as servers
[03:13] <transgress_> and you can get suse for free
[03:13] <transgress_> just not 9.3
[03:13] <penguinboy> FOSS!!!
[03:13] <transgress_> 9.2 though
[03:13] <penguinboy> 9.2a
[03:13] <transgress_> penguinboy: you have flash?  w32codecs?  ... you will be using ndiswrapper to get your wifi to work... all those are non-free
[03:13] <penguinboy> flash...no
[03:14] <penguinboy> w32codes...I jave no idea what that is
[03:14] <Gombeni> if I am going to choose between non-free suse, free old suse, new kubuntu, I'd choose kubuntu
[03:14] <penguinboy> YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[03:14] <penguinboy> The Hoary Hedgehog!!!
[03:15] <transgress_> okay enough fanboy shit
[03:15] <Gombeni> ok is it being one cd means that lacks a lot of packages?
[03:15] <penguinboy> Gombeni....HERE IS A REAL BIG PLUS....this is the most helful room on freenode.net....the otehr rooms just tell you to RTFM!
[03:15] <transgress_> Gombeni: no... didn't i just say apt has far more packages than any other repo system
[03:16] <Gombeni> so let's start.
[03:16] <penguinboy> kewl
[03:16] <transgress_> penguinboy: you should always RTFM
[03:16] <transgress_> teach a man to fish...
[03:16] <penguinboy> i know i kow
[03:16] <dwmurphy> are there amd64 debs of 3.4.1 yet? besides the regular debian ones?
[03:17] <transgress_> it's funny that i use that quote so much... since i hate fishing and i'm a raw food vegan.
[03:17] <penguinboy> kewl
[03:17] <transgress_> dwmurphy: doesn't look like it
[03:17] <penguinboy> boys....i am now lookign at a Kubuntu desktop on my laptop!!!
[03:17] <dwmurphy> transgress: k. thanks
[03:18] <penguinboy> i could be a raw food vegan...
[03:18] <penguinboy> i think
[03:18] <penguinboy> i already drink soy milk
[03:18] <penguinboy> mmm mmm good
[03:20] <Gombeni> has anyone have DRM/DRI (Direct Rendering) on kubuntu?
[03:20] <transgress> heh raw food vegans don't drink soy milk
[03:20] <transgress> we eat raw fruits, vegetables, seeds, nuts, sprouted grains...
[03:20] <penguinboy> why not?
[03:20] <Gombeni> me?
[03:20] <penguinboy> what do you drink?
[03:20] <transgress> i drink water and fruit juice
[03:20] <penguinboy> kewl
[03:20] <transgress> because soy milk isn't raw food
[03:20] <_joel> where do i configure mouse gestures for konqueror?
[03:20] <transgress> i used to drink it a lot when i was just vegan
[03:20] <penguinboy> oh yeah...DUH
[03:21] <penguinboy> can you eat processed cereal?
[03:22] <Gombeni> does anyone have DRM/DRI (Direct Rendering) on kubuntu?
[03:22] <penguinboy> liz...where are you my little muffin???
[03:23] <penguinboy> Gombeni...that would be a trangress question
[03:23] <penguinboy> hey dewey
[03:24] <penguinboy> transgress:  Do I sudo apt-get install diswrapper???
[03:24] <Octane> hey penguinboy
[03:24] <Gombeni> penguinboy: why transgress?
[03:24] <Octane> how you doin
[03:24] <penguinboy> Hey Octane!!!!
[03:24] <Octane> why are 3.4.1 pkgs not out yet
[03:25] <penguinboy> transgress knows all
[03:25] <Tm_T> Octane: topic
[03:25] <penguinboy> Octane might be able to answer your question Gom
[03:25] <Octane> oh shit thanks Tm_T
[03:25] <penguinboy> Octane:  does anyone have DRM/DRI (Direct Rendering) on kubuntu?
[03:26] <Tm_T> Octane: and there one more line to add: deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main
[03:26] <Octane> oh okay
[03:26] <penguinboy> has transgress left the building?
[03:26] <Octane> thansk Tm_T
[03:27] <Tm_T> Octane: do you need pyKDE package(s)?
[03:27] <Gombeni> Tm_T: do you know if anyone has success in having DRM/DRI in kubuntu?
[03:27] <Tm_T> Gombeni: hmm, yeah
[03:29] <Tm_T> Gombeni: like me
[03:29] <Gombeni> so I MUST try kubuntu NOW!
[03:29] <Octane> Tm_T, Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341/dists/hoary-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[03:29] <Gombeni> thanks guys
[03:30] <Tm_T> Octane: yeah, there's no amd64 packages
[03:30] <Tm_T> Octane: so compile it from sources
[03:30] <Octane> ugh no
[03:30] <Octane> i dont wanna start compiling stuff :(
[03:30] <penguinboy> lol
[03:31] <Tm_T> eh
[03:31] <Octane> ill destroy my computer
[03:31] <Tm_T> I have compiled amaroK, Koffice etc etc
[03:31] <transgress_> then umm ... do w/o it then?
[03:31] <pinny> hey has anyone here gotten kwifimanager to work with a intel 2200bg card using WEP?
[03:31] <Tm_T> because I can't get new enough binaries =)
[03:31] <transgress_> heh i used to be a ricer... i had compiled everything
[03:31] <pinny> i have to edit my interfaces file manually
[03:32] <pinny> which isnt a big deal but it would be nice if the gui option worked
[03:32] <penguinboy> trangress:  would you be able to help me with my wireless now
[03:32] <microhaxo> miahahaha
[03:32] <microhaxo>  I HAVE JAVA BITCHES!
[03:32] <Tm_T> microhaxo: so do I
[03:32] <penguinboy> lol
[03:32] <Tm_T> ;)
[03:32] <microhaxo> amd 64 JAVA
[03:32] <microhaxo> bam
[03:32] <penguinboy> where does one get java bitches?
[03:33] <Tm_T> microhaxo: you're my bitch, you bitch
[03:33] <transgress_> from a java pimp
[03:33] <transgress_> like me
[03:33] <penguinboy> lol
[03:33] <liz4rd> lmao
[03:33] <penguinboy> lol
[03:33] <microhaxo> lol
[03:33] <transgress_> now pay me!
[03:33] <microhaxo> lol
[03:33] <microhaxo> now to install
[03:33] <microhaxo> Azures or whatnot
[03:33] <microhaxo> :D
[03:33] <liz4rd> um
[03:33] <liz4rd> download
[03:33] <liz4rd> it
[03:33] <microhaxo> i did
[03:33] <microhaxo> :D
[03:33] <liz4rd> google.com <-- use the force
[03:34] <Tm_T> :o
[03:34] <microhaxo> i already have it
[03:34] <penguinboy> should I sudo apt-get install diswrapper?
[03:34] <liz4rd> ^_^
[03:34] <microhaxo> i needed java
[03:34] <liz4rd> google.com <-- use the force
[03:34] <liz4rd> google.com <-- use the force
[03:34] <liz4rd> ^_^
[03:34] <penguinboy> google.com/linux
[03:34] <pinny> sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[03:34] <liz4rd> :O EVEN BETTER
[03:34] <transgress_> sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper
[03:35] <transgress_> and then you need to get the windows drivers for you card
[03:35] <liz4rd> wtf is aptitude?
[03:35] <transgress_> aptitude is like apt-get but it keeps track of more stuff
[03:35] <liz4rd> oh
[03:35] <microhaxo> guys
[03:35] <microhaxo> does this command make sense?
[03:35] <microhaxo> shj2re-1.4.2-fcs-linux-amd64.bin
[03:35] <microhaxo> ???
[03:36] <transgress_> well you need a space in there
[03:36] <microhaxo> $ cd browse_to_your_download_folder
[03:36] <microhaxo> $ shj2re-1.4.2-fcs-linux-amd64.bin
[03:36] <microhaxo> $ sudo mv j2re1.4.2/ /usr/java/
[03:36] <penguinboy> okay....I have ndiswrapper instaleld....what next?
[03:36] <microhaxo> error
[03:36] <microhaxo> sh: jr2re-1.4.2-fcs-linux-amd64.bin: No such file or directory
[03:36] <transgress_> when i get done looking at suicidegirls i'll find you the link
[03:36] <transgress_> penguinboy:
[03:36] <penguinboy> what is suicidegirls?
[03:37] <liz4rd> a porn site
[03:37] <liz4rd> he has a fetish
[03:37] <penguinboy> i could not does anyone have DRM/DRI (Direct Rendering) on kubuntu?...couldn;t find package
[03:37] <monchy> lol
[03:37] <liz4rd> made me dress up one time
[03:38] <monchy> your next penguin
[03:38] <penguinboy> is transgress a porno addict?
[03:38] <transgress_> penguinboy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HowtoUseNdiswrapperOnAmd64Ubuntu
[03:38] <liz4rd> yes
[03:38] <monchy> he'll make you dress up like tux
[03:38] <liz4rd> :O
[03:38] <penguinboy> i do not have an AMD 64
[03:38] <liz4rd> and bend you over :'(
[03:38] <penguinboy> lol
[03:38] <monchy> ok ok lol
[03:38] <penguinboy> lol
[03:38] <liz4rd> lmao
[03:38] <transgress_> penguinboy: eh not really... i like suicidegirls though... but it's also a community... w/ naked tattoo'd chicks to bot
[03:38] <Tm_T> bhah
[03:38] <transgress_> err to boot
[03:39] <transgress_> penguinboy: oh yeah... sorry i sent you the wrong link
[03:39] <liz4rd> lol...community
[03:39] <transgress_> penguinboy: http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/drivers.php
[03:39] <microhaxo> ALRIGHTY THEN
[03:39] <microhaxo> time for AZUREUS
[03:40] <Tm_T> :/
[03:40] <Tm_T> have you tried newest bittorrent?
[03:40] <microhaxo> mk
[03:41] <microhaxo> ran command
[03:41] <microhaxo> ./azureus
[03:41] <penguinboy> this shure is a lot of readin' Mr. Transgress....are you teaching me to RTFM?????
[03:41] <microhaxo> and it spit out lots of stuff
[03:41] <microhaxo> and it says
[03:41] <microhaxo> Azureus TERMINATED.
[03:41] <microhaxo> so
[03:41] <microhaxo> is it installed?
[03:41] <microhaxo> lol
[03:41] <Tm_T> http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/bittorrent_001.png
[03:41] <transgress_> penguinboy: i sent you a link to a page that has a shitload of drivers for wireless cards that are needed by ndiswrapper
[03:42] <microhaxo> Tm_t
[03:42] <microhaxo> how do i install this
[03:42] <microhaxo> its Extracted to a folder
[03:42] <microhaxo> ?
[03:42] <Tm_T> what? where?
[03:42] <microhaxo> azures is in my DESKTOP
[03:42] <microhaxo> in folder azures
[03:42] <microhaxo> all stuff in it
[03:42] <transgress_> azureus doesn't really install
[03:42] <microhaxo> png, etc
[03:42] <microhaxo> Well
[03:42] <microhaxo> how the hell to i run it?
[03:43] <transgress_> by typing ./azureus in the folder
[03:43] <microhaxo> it runs through shit and says terminated
[03:43] <microhaxo> ?
[03:43] <transgress_> and if it is erroring you have problems
[03:43] <transgress_> well it would seem you need to read that "shit" and find the problem.
[03:43] <transgress_> i'd start at the bottom and work my way up
[03:44] <penguinboy> how can I open a zip file?
[03:44] <transgress_> with unzip
[03:45] <transgress_> sudo aptitude install unzip
[03:45] <penguinboy> danke
[03:45] <pinny> omfg
[03:45] <pinny> i dont believe it
[03:45] <transgress_> yes you do
[03:45] <pinny> kwifimanager works
[03:45] <transgress_> liar
[03:45] <pinny> omfg
[03:46] <transgress_> i'm not sure of the surprise here...
[03:46] <penguinboy> what folder would unzip install into?
[03:46] <Tm_T>
[03:46] <transgress_> umm
[03:46] <transgress_> /usr/bin i think
[03:46] <transgress_> and you should be able to just run unzip
[03:47] <transgress_> oh wait... that might be in universe/multiverse
[03:47] <transgress_> did you apt it?
[03:47] <penguinboy> it was in /usr/bin
[03:48] <penguinboy> like i said...transgress kniows all
[03:48] <Tm_T> :/
[03:48] <liz4rd> you mean like i said!
[03:48] <liz4rd> :P
[03:48] <liz4rd> jk
[03:48] <Tm_T> all?  I was thinking of trying sarge. is Kubuntu - Preconfigured X = sarge?
[05:41] <Tm_T> nno
[05:42] <Tm_T> different packagepolicy etc
[05:42] <_penguinboy> guys....I am going to bed
[05:42] <Tm_T> Debian = stability, Kubuntu = usability
[05:42] <randymon> Think of Kubuntu as a more polished version of Sarge.
[05:42] <Tm_T> randymon: sort of
[05:42] <liz4rd> _penguinboy: night muffin
[05:42] <_penguinboy> lizard tell transgress he has to heko me tomorrow night get my wireless going please
[05:43] <_sbcl3> hmm
[05:43] <liz4rd> ok will do
[05:43] <_penguinboy> adios mi amigos y amigas!
[05:51] <microhaxo> What is this bullshit that i cant play MUSIC!
[05:52] <monchy> lol
[06:03] <kakalto> what are some other kde linux distros
[06:03] <kakalto> ?
[06:03] <monchy> mepis
[06:03] <transgress_> suse
[06:03] <monchy> yoper
[06:03] <kakalto> mepis, that was what I was thinking of :)
[06:04] <monchy> won't get the same community support there though
[06:04] <kakalto> I was just gonna check it out
[06:05] <kakalto> you see, I just set up Qemu, and I want to test it >:D
[06:08] <microhaxo> guys i got cedega
[06:08] <microhaxo> how do i install?
[06:08] <kakalto> there's a guide somewhere...
[06:09] <microhaxo> its a .tgz?
[06:10] <monchy> you bought it?
[06:11] <microhaxo> no its a CVS
[06:11] <microhaxo> compiled
[06:11] <microhaxo> version
[06:11] <microhaxo> free
[06:11] <microhaxo> anywho
[06:14] <kakalto> extract the .tgz to a folder
[06:14] <Tm_T> hullo
[06:17] <_sbcl3> Tm_T: different package policy?
[06:20] <Tm_T> _sbcl3: I mean, Debian is meant to run in many different surfaces and stability is one of the most important, Kubuntu is just meant to Desktop use
[06:21] <Tm_T> and so different packages/versions in repositories etc
[06:21] <_sbcl3> oh..hmm
[06:21] <_sbcl3> i compile as much as possible anyway, though
[06:22] <_sbcl3> apt-get is only for libraries and core development packages
[06:22] <_sbcl3> (i like having the latest unstables of everything)
[06:22] <Tm_T> heh
[06:22] <Tm_T> hmm, then go with Debian SID
[06:23] <Tm_T> OR play with Breezy
[06:23] <Tm_T> check topic from #ubuntu first
[06:23] <transgress_> debian SID IS UNSTABLE again
[06:23] <transgress_> kind of like breezy
[06:24] <Tm_T> :p
[06:25] <microhaxo> Guys
[06:25] <microhaxo> i got CEDEGA, extracted it, its in a USR folder on my desktop
[06:26] <microhaxo> how do i install it..
[06:27] <microhaxo> ?
[06:28] <transgress_> CEDEGA is supposed to have very good support for their subscribers
[06:28] <transgress_> you are best asking them for help
[06:29] <Tm_T> yeah, I bet he paid for it
[06:29] <transgress_> hehe i know
[06:46] <gethoht> exit
[06:46] <gethoht> haha
[06:46] <gethoht> hello
[06:48] <gethoht> is the us ubuntu source servers up yet (apt-get)?
[06:57] <_calvin_> I am unable to rip a cd to mp3 with lame and KAudioCreator
[06:57] <_calvin_> Do I need to install a new version of Lame to get this to work.
[06:58] <_calvin_> I would use ogg but I have an ipod
[07:11] <liz4rd> OMG!...Cheese
[07:14] <microhaxo> omg
[07:14] <liz4rd> OMG!
[07:14] <microhaxo> how the hell do i INSTALL WINE
[07:14] <microhaxo> screw CEDEGA
[07:14] <liz4rd> sudo apt-get install wine
[07:14] <liz4rd> you tool
[07:14] <liz4rd> :P jk
[07:14] <microhaxo> dont work?
[07:14] <liz4rd> eh
[07:14] <liz4rd> ?
[07:15] <liz4rd> it did for me
[07:15] <kakalto> this might sound silly...
[07:15] <kakalto> but...
[07:15] <microhaxo> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:15] <microhaxo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:15] <microhaxo> is only available from another source
[07:15] <microhaxo> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[07:15] <kakalto> there's no trial/evaluation version for windows xp, downloadable from the internet
[07:15] <kakalto> >_>
[07:15] <microhaxo> HAHAHAHA
[07:15] <kakalto> <_<
[07:15] <microhaxo> no
[07:15] <microhaxo> wwait yes there is
[07:15] <microhaxo> its called
[07:15] <microhaxo> WAREZ
[07:15] <kakalto> their main software... and they don't let anyone try before you buy?
[07:16] <kakalto> lol
[07:16] <microhaxo> yea
[07:16] <microhaxo> get a BETA
[07:16] <microhaxo> timebomb
[07:16] <kakalto> ya think I'd just put this strange software onto my computer, with no indication if it'll work, and no idea what it's like?
[07:16] <liz4rd> the wine thing i said works
[07:16] <microhaxo> no
[07:16] <microhaxo> look
[07:16] <microhaxo> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:16] <microhaxo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:16] <microhaxo> is only available from another source
[07:16] <microhaxo> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[07:17] <liz4rd> wine is already the newest version :D
[07:17] <liz4rd> thast what it gives me
[07:17] <liz4rd> cuz i apt-geted it befor
[07:17] <microhaxo> Well wtf
[07:17] <microhaxo> why am i having a shit ass time here
[07:18] <liz4rd> cuz you dont try others things...you just expect us to give you command....as a n00b my self to another n00b..yourself READ...DOCUMENTATION
[07:18] <liz4rd> or google works
[07:18] <microhaxo> no
[07:18] <microhaxo> i know
[07:19] <microhaxo> its this damn AMD64 RElease
[07:19] <microhaxo> eh
[07:19] <microhaxo> should had the 32bit release
[07:19] <liz4rd> THEN WHY DIDNT YOU SAY THAT
[07:19] <liz4rd> you have to specify things in your questions
[07:19] <microhaxo> Because
[07:19] <microhaxo> lo
[07:19] <microhaxo> OK
[07:19] <microhaxo> i have a DAMN
[07:19] <microhaxo> AMD 64
[07:19] <microhaxo> I WANT WINE
[07:19] <microhaxo> how
[07:19] <liz4rd> #ubuntu
[07:19] <liz4rd> ^_^
[07:20] <microhaxo> omg
[07:21] <liz4rd> well jee man
[07:38] <microhaxo> wahts wrong with this?
[07:38] <microhaxo> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/85
[07:38] <microhaxo> it wont let me add those wine dloads
[07:40] <liz4rd> nothign s wrong with it
[07:42] <microhaxo> yea
[07:42] <microhaxo> ther was
[07:42] <microhaxo> anyway
[07:42] <microhaxo> i can now see
[07:42] <microhaxo> winetools in kynaptic
[07:43] <microhaxo> but
[07:43] <microhaxo> i cant select for install
[07:43] <microhaxo> ?
[07:43] <microhaxo> it is there but it wont check it?
[07:52] <microhaxo> Ok guys
[07:52] <microhaxo> i dloaded wine.rpm
[07:52] <microhaxo> how do i install
[07:52] <kakalto> alien it
[07:53] <kakalto> sudo apt-get install alien
[07:54] <kakalto> then alien /path/to/rpm
[07:54] <microhaxo> can i pm you?\
[07:54] <kakalto> sure
[08:04] <Caprine> quakenet or quake.net ?
[08:04] <Tm_T> err
[08:04] <Tm_T> irc.quakenet.org ;)
[08:04] <Caprine> ok thx
[08:04] <Caprine> :)
[08:04] <Tm_T> don't go there
[08:04] <Tm_T> it's irchell
[08:04] <Tm_T> no, I really mean it
[08:07] <pinny> hi everyone
[08:07] <Caprine> I delete  kubunto     and setup ubuntu
[08:07] <liz4rd> hey
[08:07] <liz4rd> !!!
[08:07] <Caprine> hi
[08:08] <pinny> i just turned 21 yrs old 3 hr's ago
[08:08] <pinny> yay!
[08:08] <liz4rd> yay!
[08:08] <pinny> how sad is it that the most enjoyable way I could find to spend my birthday is hanging out in the kubuntu chat
[08:09] <pinny> :)
[08:09] <monchy> happy bday, liz4rd will dance for you
[08:09] <Caprine> :)
[08:09] <Caprine> bey
[08:09] <Caprine> bye
[08:10] <liz4rd> lol transgress is trying to hide
[08:10] <liz4rd> ircbot_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:10] <liz4rd> XD
[08:10] <ircbot_> heh yeah i did
[08:11] <pinny> my stomache kills though
[08:11] <liz4rd> :P luck penguinboy wasnt here
[08:11] <liz4rd> he would be like " OMG TRANSGRESS FIX MY WIFI" or some shit like that
[08:11] <pinny> my friends just came by with a boatload of chochlate and beer
[08:11] <liz4rd> LOL!
[08:11] <monchy> beer good
[08:11] <ircbot_> eww
[08:11] <monchy> chocolate good
[08:12] <pinny> speaking of broken wifi
[08:12] <pinny> kwifimanager doesnt work
[08:12] <pinny> it was genesee
[08:12] <pinny> $12 for a 30 pack
[08:12] <pinny> of cans
[08:13] <ircbot_> wifimanager is working for me
[08:13] <ircbot_> you can always use iwlist
[08:13] <pinny> i dont mean to monitor
[08:13] <pinny> i mean to set up
[08:13] <pinny> it wont obtain a dhcp address
[08:13] <pinny> and it wont set up an enc key
[08:14] <pinny> youre right though - it does monitoro your connection
[08:14] <pinny> if you already set it up with iwconfig
[08:14] <pinny> im only running kde 3.4
[08:14] <pinny> im hoping 3.41
[08:14] <pinny> fixed it
[08:15] <pinny> im 50mb into the 3.41 d/l
[08:16] <ircbot_> liz4rd: #irclikelife
[08:50] <kakalto> >_>
[08:50] <kakalto> <_<
[08:53] <microhaxo> Guys
[08:53] <microhaxo> someone
[08:54] <airox> :D
[09:00] <_pinny> micro
[09:00] <_pinny> u here?
[09:00] <_pinny> hows your azureus coming along?
[09:09] <microhaxo> it sucks
[09:09] <microhaxo> didnt install
[09:09] <airox> :(
[09:09] <microhaxo> got bittornado instead
[09:09] <microhaxo> airox
[09:09] <microhaxo> yay
[09:10] <microhaxo> you know how to compile?
[09:10] <microhaxo> im compilin wine
[09:10] <airox> yes
[09:10] <microhaxo> and it stopped
[09:10] <microhaxo> with this
[09:10] <microhaxo> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:10] <microhaxo> See `config.log' for more details.
[09:10] <airox> Why are you compiling wine !?
[09:10] <airox> And why not getting cedega ? :)
[09:11] <airox> cedega is the commercial version of wine where all the games run on
[09:13] <microhaxo> cuz
[09:13] <microhaxo> i have amd64
[09:13] <microhaxo> so
[09:13] <microhaxo> airox
[09:13] <microhaxo> can you plz help me
[09:13] <microhaxo> heh
[09:18] <Ghetek> oy, anybody home?
[09:19] <Tm_T> nope, they're gone
[09:19] <Ghetek> 5.04.2... did i miss something?
[09:19] <Tm_T> nope
[09:21] <Ghetek> huh
[09:21] <Ghetek> do i have to do extra work to get creatures3 to work on kde versus gnome?
[09:23] <Ghetek> mornin steph
[09:23] <steph> hey
[09:23] <Ghetek> mornin mestaphles
[09:23] <Ghetek> damn... misspelled
[09:24] <steph> i just downloaded the Kubuntu CD
[09:24] <steph> ive always used ubuntu and then got the kubuntu-desktop package
[09:24] <Ghetek> congrats on finding an awesome window manager... i mean distro
[09:24] <steph> Much better now, really cut out the crap =)
[09:25] <Ghetek> yeah but it still installs OoO
[09:25] <Ghetek> well the newer live cd has koffice
[09:25] <Ghetek> thats a serious upgrafe
[09:25] <Ghetek> *upgrade
[09:25] <steph> yeah, thats one reason why i tried the kubuntu cd
[09:26] <steph> because when i remove openoffice.org, it tries to remove kubuntu-desktop also
[09:26] <steph> and i still seem to have the same problem
[09:26] <Ghetek> kubuntu needs it
[09:27] <steph> yeah, i wanted to use openoffice.org2
[09:27] <Ghetek> if you wanna get rid of oo you need to do a server install and install x yourself... good luck
[09:27] <Ghetek> just dl ooo2
[09:27] <Ghetek> and then delete the entries in your menu
[09:27] <steph> but then i have ooo and ooo2   waste of space =(
[09:28] <Ghetek> i spent hours on that one before realizing that ooo1 is under 100 megs (to ratio of cost thats less than a dime) and thats just not worth my time
[09:28] <steph> yeah
[09:29] <steph> im soon to loose my internet
[09:29] <Ghetek> ?
[09:29] <steph> so i need to download everything i might need
[09:30] <Ghetek> get all the debs onto a dvd
[09:30] <Ghetek> thats my suggestion
[09:30] <steph> yeah
[09:30] <steph> so i have no more gedit
[09:30] <steph> kate doesnt work
[09:31] <Ghetek> use gedit
[09:31] <Ghetek> kate always fuddles up
[09:32] <Ghetek> messes up with root commands right?
[09:32] <steph> yeah it tried to
[09:32] <liz4rd> hey steph and Ghetek
[09:32] <steph> damn =( to get gedit i have to install all the gnome stuff
[09:32] <liz4rd> its not that bad
[09:32] <microhaxo64bit> ello?
[09:33] <liz4rd> pretty fast download nad install
[09:33] <liz4rd> microhaxo64bit: your a penis ^_^
[09:33] <Ghetek> pretty fast download nad install...
[09:33] <Ghetek> is that "sudo pretty fast download nad install" ?
[09:33] <Ghetek> hehe
[09:33] <liz4rd> and*
[09:33] <liz4rd> lol
[09:33] <liz4rd> sudo apt-get install gedit
[09:33] <liz4rd> :)
[09:34] <Heart|> what's the admin password for cups http://localhost:631/admin ?
[09:34] <Ghetek> yeah gedit is nice
[09:34] <Ghetek> nice and simple
[09:34] <Tm_T> Kedit is better
[09:34] <Tm_T> nano <3
[09:34] <liz4rd> i like xfce's mousepad
[09:34] <Ghetek> yeah im a nano guy
[09:34] <liz4rd> and nano aswell
[09:35] <liz4rd> pico or w/e
[09:35] <steph> yeah im using nana now =)
[09:35] <liz4rd> but gedit for sysntax highlighting
[09:35] <steph> nano*
[09:35] <Ghetek> geeze. i got a class tomorrow for web page building in windows
[09:36] <liz4rd> lol when i run nano its pico
[09:36] <liz4rd> and pico is nano
[09:36] <liz4rd> OMG
[09:36] <Ghetek> anybody know a free windows editor that i can send people hoem with?
[09:36] <steph> yeah frontpage
[09:36] <liz4rd> yup
[09:36] <steph> haha
[09:36] <liz4rd> no no no
[09:36] <Ghetek> frontpage... $$$
[09:36] <liz4rd> this ones light and has syntax highlighting
[09:36] <steph> if it costs $$$ its free somewhere
[09:36] <Ghetek> hahah
[09:36] <Ghetek> this is a class! its gotta be legit
[09:36] <steph> no it doesnt
[09:37] <Ghetek> youve got to be kidding me
[09:37] <liz4rd> http://www.flos-freeware.ch/zip/notepad2.zip
[09:37] <steph> i take great pride in pirating microsoft products
[09:37] <liz4rd> it is
[09:37] <Ghetek> its gotta be gui
[09:37] <liz4rd> it is
[09:37] <liz4rd> look at it
[09:37] <liz4rd> its amazing
[09:37] <steph> i actually own a legit copy of windows xp that i got for 10$
[09:37] <liz4rd> lol!
[09:37] <Ghetek> wow
[09:38] <Ghetek> legit windows xp... you payed $10 too much
[09:38] <steph> i know
[09:38] <steph> i only have the windows partition for lan parties
[09:39] <liz4rd> Ghetek: is it alright
[09:39] <Ghetek> cool
[09:39] <Ghetek> i will check this out tomorrow morning
[09:39] <liz4rd> ok
[09:40] <Ghetek> yeah we have dreamweaver but of course we cant send em home with it
[09:40] <liz4rd> you can send notepad 2 home :)
[09:40] <Ghetek> cool
[09:40] <liz4rd> btw
[09:40] <Ghetek> alright guys
[09:40] <liz4rd>
[09:40] <liz4rd> http://www.flos-freeware.ch/notepad2.html
[09:40] <steph> is there a way to fix kate? so it will start
[09:41] <Ghetek> past my bed time
[09:41] <airox> steph: running 3.4.1 ?
[09:41] <liz4rd> lol night
[09:41] <Ghetek> night
[09:41] <Ghetek> take it easy guys
[09:41] <airox> steph: I also couldn't start kate, but with kate -n it does work.
[09:41] <microhaxo64bit> im gonna pull out my hair
[09:41] <Ghetek> talk to you all tomorrow
[09:41] <steph> airox: im not sure, fresh off the kubuntu 5.04 cd
[09:41] <liz4rd> airox: hey man
[09:41] <liz4rd> later
[09:41] <airox> nn liz4rd :D
[09:41] <microhaxo64bit> airox, i got it to start compilin
[09:42] <airox> weird timezones over here liz4rd ;P
[09:42] <liz4rd> :P yeah
[09:42] <liz4rd> what you got for time?
[09:42] <airox> I just awake :/
[09:42] <airox> 09:42
[09:42] <microhaxo64bit> airox can you help me real quick with compiling wine
[09:42] <liz4rd> whoa
[09:42] <microhaxo64bit> im stuck at one point
[09:42] <liz4rd> its 1:41 am
[09:42] <airox> hehehe
[09:43] <steph> kate -n still says communication problem with kate
[09:43] <liz4rd> sudo apt-get install kate
[09:43] <liz4rd> lol
[09:44] <liz4rd> did any of you kubuntu people do a apt-get dist-upgrade after instalation?
[09:44] <airox> ;P
[09:44] <Tm_T> whoaaaaahhhh!
[09:44] <microhaxo64bit> Airox can you help me?
[09:44] <airox> microhaxo64bit: No, I can't.
[09:44] <Tm_T> =)
[09:44] <steph> i uninstalled kate, and it took kubuntu-desktop and kdebase with it
[09:45] <microhaxo64bit> :(
[09:45] <liz4rd> LMAO
[09:45] <Tm_T> steph: yup
[09:45] <microhaxo64bit> tm_t do you have any experience with compiling wine?
[09:45] <liz4rd> lol
[09:45] <liz4rd> micro
[09:45] <steph> still wont start after reinstalling all of that =(
[09:45] <liz4rd> dude
[09:45] <airox> microhaxo64bit: You have to get CEDEGA.
[09:45] <Tm_T> nope, but I do compile stuff several times / day
[09:46] <microhaxo64bit> ?
[09:46] <microhaxo64bit> cedega = gay
[09:46] <microhaxo64bit> wine= free
[09:46] <airox> You want to play games ?
[09:46] <liz4rd> lol
[09:47] <liz4rd> if games the nget winex
[09:47] <airox> cedega = winex ? :)
[09:47] <Tm_T> almost
[09:47] <airox> almost yes
[09:50] <airox> Does the VNC server of KDE work well with windows clients ?
[09:51] <steph> i never got cedega, or wine to work properly for me
[09:51] <airox> cedega and wine work perfectly over here
[09:51] <steph> i only used cvscedega though
[09:54] <steph> whats a good kde movie player?
[09:55] <steph> i always used totem-xine but thats gnome apparently
[09:56] <liz4rd> xine
[09:56] <liz4rd> kaffine
[09:56] <liz4rd> or how ever you spell it
[09:58] <steph> hmm, i have no sound...
[09:58] <steph> kaffine works though
[10:04] <Tm_T> kaffeine
[10:04] <Tm_T> but Kplayer is my favorite
[10:04] <Tm_T> or Mplayer itself
[10:11] <microhaxo64bit> #cedega
[10:11] <microhaxo64bit> ok
[10:29] <MoreFX_> hi
[10:29] <MoreFX_> is anyone using Patrick Boettcher's dvb-t kernel module dvb_dibusb?
[10:29] <MoreFX_> I try to get my dvb-t usb-box running to no avail
[10:29] <MoreFX_> syslog tells me: kernel: drivers/media/dvb/dibusb/dvb-dibusb.c: did not find a valid firmware file.
[10:30] <MoreFX_> however the firmware is present (in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware)
[10:30] <MoreFX_> has anyone dvb-t up and running and can help me out?
[11:00] <liz4rd> ...whats everyone doing?
[11:01] <Tm_T> killing myself slowly
[11:01] <liz4rd> by staring at the screen?
[11:01] <Tm_T> well, basically I breath, that's enough
[11:02] <liz4rd> meh cant cant get anything more out of you ;)
[11:02] <liz4rd> just one cant *
[11:07] <Tm_T> :p
[11:07] <Tm_T> well, I spent morning with gimp
[11:08] <liz4rd> doing?
[11:08] <liz4rd> can you show?
[11:08] <liz4rd> :D
[11:09] <liz4rd> http://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload/index.php username:public password: user
[11:09] <Tm_T> nah
[11:09] <liz4rd> dam you
[11:09] <Tm_T> I have my own server
[11:09] <liz4rd> tehn upload a screeny
[11:09] <Tm_T> and I use sshfs <3
[11:09] <Tm_T> http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/agent_tayl0r.png
[11:10] <Tm_T> there's something missing but can't figure out what
[11:10] <buz> booobs
[11:10] <Tm_T> where?
[11:10] <liz4rd> xfce4 ^_^
[11:10] <buz> on the pic :)
[11:10] <liz4rd> nice touch buz
[11:11] <Tm_T> buz: no shit
[11:11] <buz> SCNR
[11:11] <buz> i mean they are missing :)
[11:11] <Tm_T> buz: so?
[11:11] <liz4rd> now now children
[11:11] <buz> you were asking what's missing, i replied
[11:12] <Tm_T> haha
[11:12] <liz4rd> buz
[11:12] <buz> what
[11:12] <liz4rd> upload a screenshot :)
[11:12] <Tm_T> no, that's not what I mean
[11:12] <buz> i dont use background images
[11:12] <liz4rd> you teh sux0rs
[11:13] <Tm_T> I use only selfmade background images
[11:13] <liz4rd> are you special ^_^
[11:13] <buz> why bother with background images, i dont really ever see my desktop anway
[11:14] <liz4rd> poo you then
[11:15] <Tm_T> maybe I should do more icons
[11:15] <liz4rd> that be cool
[11:22] <liz4rd> whats everyone doing?
[11:22] <kakalto> do ya really want to know?
[11:22] <liz4rd> yes
[11:23] <liz4rd> i'm that bored
[11:23] <kakalto> well...
[11:23] <liz4rd> wait
[11:23] <liz4rd> forget it
[11:23] <kakalto> hehe
[11:23] <liz4rd> anyone els?
[11:25] <kakalto> you sure you don't want to know? :P
[11:25] <liz4rd> you know what...
[11:25] <liz4rd> sure
[11:25] <liz4rd> i do
[11:25] <liz4rd> what are you doing?
[11:26] <kakalto> trying to create a software RAID setup
[11:26] <liz4rd> cool
[11:26] <kakalto> and failing miserably
[11:26] <liz4rd> that sucks
[11:26] <kakalto> and I think it's to do with my motherboard
[11:26] <kakalto> the secondary IDE channel seems to be faulty
[11:26] <kakalto> >_>
[11:26] <liz4rd> that sucks
[11:26] <kakalto> yup
[11:27] <kakalto> I just got 2 80Gb hdd's for free..
[11:27] <liz4rd> :O
[11:27] <liz4rd> from where?
[11:27] <kakalto> a place which ran each of them for about 2.5 years straight, recording video
[11:27] <kakalto> constantly
[11:28] <liz4rd> do tehy work?
[11:28] <liz4rd> tehy
[11:28] <kakalto> yeah
[11:28] <kakalto> they work...
[11:28] <liz4rd> cool
[11:28] <kakalto> but I can't hook them up at the same time
[11:28] <kakalto> otherwise I'd have to remove my cd/dvd drive
[11:28] <liz4rd> what are you gonna do with them?
[11:28] <kakalto> dunno
[11:29] <kakalto> I might hook them up in my older system
[11:29] <liz4rd> server?
[11:29] <liz4rd> :)
[11:29] <kakalto> nah, my 'net is too slow :P
[11:29] <kakalto> I thought of it
[11:29] <kakalto> but with 128kbit u/l, it's probably not worth it
[11:29] <liz4rd> i bet i own everyone in there bandwidth wise ^_^
[11:29] <kakalto> probably
[11:30] <paxon> no you dont.
[11:30] <buz> i doubt it
[11:30] <liz4rd> what you guys got?
[11:30] <buz> i'm playing on a 1gbit uplink box at the moment
[11:30] <liz4rd> is it in your home? or where are you?
[11:30] <buz> no its in the data center
[11:30] <liz4rd> LOL i mean for personal use
[11:31] <liz4rd> at your house
[11:31] <buz> it IS for personal use ;)
[11:31] <liz4rd> what about you buz?
[11:31] <buz> at home, 2mbit
[11:31] <liz4rd> heh
[11:31] <buz> much more than i really need
[11:31] <liz4rd> i'm running an uncapped T3 :)
[11:32] <liz4rd> 100mb up and down
[11:32] <buz> have you got too much cash?
[11:32] <liz4rd> lol
[11:32] <buz> WTF? a T3 does 45mbit
[11:32] <liz4rd> (uncapped)
[11:32] <liz4rd> i dont know what its called after that :P
[11:32] <liz4rd>  OC or something
[11:32] <buz> no telecom standard does 100mbit
[11:32] <buz> oc3 does 155mbit
[11:33] <liz4rd> lol
[11:33] <liz4rd> when your fathers your ISP CEO its possible
[11:34] <liz4rd> are you all this boring?
[11:34] <liz4rd> TALK!!!
[11:34] <buz> unlike you, some people here got work todo
[11:34] <liz4rd> did anyone of you learn something new today
[11:34] <liz4rd> :P its sharing time
[11:34] <liz4rd> its 3:34 am i'm fucking bored
[11:35] <buz> yeah i'm trying to figure out market equilibriums in markets with asymmetric  informations
[11:35] <buz> specific enough
[11:35] <liz4rd> *blink*
[11:36] <liz4rd> w..t..f did you just say?
[11:36] <kakalto> >_>
[11:36] <kakalto> If I do it right...
[11:36] <kakalto> I might end up with a replacement motherboard
[11:37] <liz4rd> lol
[11:37] <kakalto> and if they're replacing the motherboard, they'll likely have to replace the processor, too
[11:37] <kakalto> I'm not sure if this is a good thing, or not
[11:37] <kakalto> for that matter, the graphics card is agp, which has just gone out....
[11:38] <kakalto> the compy is less than a year old, you see
[11:38] <kakalto> but I got it just when everything on it went obsolete
[11:38] <liz4rd> :P
[11:38] <kakalto> processor - they don't sell athlonxp's anymore
[11:39] <kakalto> replaced by sempron
[11:39] <kakalto> agp - replaced by pci express
[11:39] <liz4rd> OMG!! will i get replaced!!!??!?!!??!
[11:39] <kakalto> hehe
[11:39] <kakalto> my poor obsolete compy... :'(
[11:39] <liz4rd> this just in...liz4rd030000000000000000000345
[11:40] <liz4rd> my poor obsolete brain :'(
[11:40] <kakalto> hehe
[11:43] <kakalto> hrm
[12:21] <kakalto> guess what, liz4rd?
[12:21] <kakalto> I found an obscure setting in a submenu of a submenu in my bios, which enables secondary ide channel
[01:26] <firasR> hi all
[01:31] <dreumah> hellp
[01:32] <dreumah> i have a question, i am in gnome at the moment and i cant see my fat32 partitions
[01:32] <firasR> dreumah:  u have to be a little more specific than that :)
[01:32] <dreumah> that ment to be hello
[01:32] <firasR> dreumah:  hehe :)
[01:33] <dreumah> so yeah, i edited the fstab a long time ago in kde and it always mounted them
[01:33] <firasR> u'd probably be better off posting GNOME related questions to #ubuntu
[01:33] <firasR> what does df -kh show you ?
[01:34] <dreumah> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[01:34] <dreumah> /dev/hda1              36G   15G   20G  42% /
[01:34] <dreumah> tmpfs                 221M     0  221M   0% /dev/shm
[01:34] <dreumah> /dev/hda5              25G   25G  104M 100% /media/lucifer
[01:34] <dreumah> /dev/hda6             9.0G  9.0G     0 100% /media/gabriel
[01:34] <dreumah> none                  5.0M  2.8M  2.3M  56% /dev
[01:34] <dreumah> /dev/sda5              30G   28G  2.3G  93% /media/sda5
[01:34] <dreumah> /dev/sda6              26G   26G  275M  99% /media/sda6
[01:34] <dreumah> /dev/sda1              20G   18G  2.5G  88% /media/sda1
[01:34] <dreumah> /dev/hdc              572M  572M     0 100% /media/cdrom0
[01:35] <dreumah> nevermind i found it
[01:35] <firasR> bad entry in ur fstab ?
[01:36] <dreumah> they are in the media dir
[01:36] <firasR> lookin' in the wrong place then
[01:37] <dreumah> yeah
[01:38] <firasR> oh well, that's fixed then :)
[01:39] <airox> Anybody knows a nice firewall module for KDE ?
[01:40] <firasR> airox:  guarddog
[01:40] <airox> oke
[01:40] <airox> tnx
[01:40] <firasR> airox:  not exactly a KDE module, it's a KDE application, pretty good though
[01:40] <firasR> airox:  ur welcome
[01:40] <airox> brb
[02:03] <dreumah> why does unrar not work, it always fails
[02:27] <airox> Anybody knows why Amarok can't play streams that are mentioned by "Cool streams" ?
[02:27] <airox> If I click on one of them amarok get's unresponsive.
[02:40] <andrea> hey....i downloaded the aMSN binary installer
[02:40] <andrea> how do i run it?
[02:41] <thoreauputic> peter@prospero:~$ apt-cache show amsn
[02:41] <thoreauputic> Package: amsn
[02:41] <thoreauputic> Priority: optional
[02:41] <thoreauputic> Section: universe/x11
[02:41] <thoreauputic> why bother when it's in the repos?
[02:41] <andrea> its in the repos?
[02:41] <andrea> i didnt seei t
[02:41] <thoreauputic> see above
[02:42] <thoreauputic>  Section: universe/x11
[02:42] <thoreauputic> enable universe and you are good to go
[02:42] <andrea> ho do i enable universe?
[02:42] <andrea> (newbie here)
[02:43] <firasR> andrea:  http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[02:44] <andrea> 10q ;)
[02:44] <firasR> ur welcome :)
[02:54] <andrea> where is aMSN in kynaptic now? the universe repository is there....but i cant find amsn
[02:55] <mikl> andrea: Well, it is there :)
[02:56] <mikl> andrea: it's under Miscellaneous - Graphical (universe)
[02:57] <andrea> ohhh ic ;)
[02:57] <andrea> 10q
[02:57] <andrea>  :)
[02:57] <andrea> done
[02:57] <airox> :)
[02:57] <airox> Why amsn ? :(
[02:59] <andrea> it looks cool
[02:59] <mcubic> hey together
[02:59] <andrea> very close to MSN
[03:00] <airox> I hate it. :)
[03:01] <andrea> wot do u use?
[03:01] <andrea> kopete/gaim?
[03:02] <airox> kopete :)
[03:03] <airox> I used it a lot, but it messed up my sounds.
[03:03] <airox> And it doesn't have a nice QT interface :)
[03:12] <andrea> i installed aMSN from kynaptic ok....
[03:12] <andrea> but whrre is it?
[03:12] <andrea> lol
[03:13] <airox> :)
[03:13] <airox> hehe
[03:13] <airox> Isn't in the Internet menu ?
[03:16] <andrea> no..,.maybe it wil be when i restart
[03:16] <andrea> it happens sometimes
[03:51] <andrea> hey
[03:51] <andrea> i need some little help
[03:51] <andrea> with a stupid thing
[03:52] <andrea> u know kopete has a sort of alternating backrground colour for all the contacts......
[03:52] <andrea> thing is....one of the background colours is BLACK...so i cant see the contact name
[04:00] <jdong> hey, quick question....
[04:01] <jdong> is it OK for backports to recommend using the KDE 3.4.1 hoary-updates repo, and to compile against it?
[04:06] <andrea> how can i make a shortcut to a program....
[04:06] <andrea> ie where do i find the program?
[04:09] <Heart|> whereis <program> <-- in console
[04:10] <thoreauputic> andrea: most programs will be in your path anyway - so just something like "firefox" in the command field should work
[04:11] <andrea> amsn: /usr/bin/amsn /usr/lib/amsn /usr/share/amsn /usr/share/man/man1/amsn.1.gz
[04:11] <andrea> i get all this
[04:11] <Heart|> use the first one :)
[04:11] <thoreauputic> andrea: /usr/bin/amsn
[04:11] <thoreauputic> but just amsn would work as well
[04:11] <andrea> 10q ;)
[04:11] <andrea> yes but i want the shortcut ;)
[04:12] <thoreauputic> andrea: amsn was shorter than /usr/bin/amsn last I looked
[04:12] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:13] <thoreauputic> andrea: type ` echo $PATH `  in a terminal to see where the shell looks for apps
[04:13] <thoreauputic> anywhere in that path, a single command should work
[04:13] <andrea> but a shortcut is done once :)
[04:13] <Heart|> thoreauputic: with export PATH=foobar i can add sth. to the $PATH.... but only for this session
[04:13] <Heart|> is there a chance to permanently add sth. to the $PATH?
[04:13] <thoreauputic> Heart|: I know, but thanks ;)
[04:14] <thoreauputic> yes
[04:14] <thoreauputic> add it in /etc/bash,bashrc
[04:14] <thoreauputic> that's ayatem wide
[04:14] <andrea> how do i add a shorcut to the kde menu?
[04:14] <Heart|> k thx
[04:14] <thoreauputic> system*
[04:14] <thoreauputic> andrea: use kmenuedit
[04:15] <thoreauputic> Heart|: per-user you would use ~/.bashrc
[04:16] <Heart|> yes...
[04:18] <andrea> DONE :)
[04:19] <andrea> wow
[04:19] <andrea> now where is xchat in the repos?
[04:20] <thoreauputic> andrea: xchat is in main
[04:20] <thoreauputic> andrea: sudo apt-get install xchat
[04:21] <andrea> console is actually easier to use if u know the program name ;)
[04:21] <thoreauputic> andrea: true;)
[04:21] <andrea> xchat is installed ;)
[04:22] <thoreauputic> andrea: to find a program's executable commands, you can do `dpkg -L <package> | grep bin `
[04:22] <thoreauputic> eg ` dpkg -L xchat | grep bin `
[04:23] <andrea> wot r executabel commands?
[04:23] <thoreauputic> andrea: the command that starts the program :)
[04:24] <thoreauputic> eg "xchat"
[04:24] <andrea> yes that i know ;)
[04:24] <andrea> and its funky
[04:24] <andrea> lol
[04:24] <thoreauputic> andrea: if that command is in your $PATH, it will be found automatically
[04:24] <andrea> how do i uninstall from console?
[04:25] <thoreauputic> so you don't need the full pathe to the app
[04:25] <thoreauputic> andrea:  ` sudo apt-get remove foo ` where "foo" is a package name
[04:25] <andrea> ohhhh
[04:26] <andrea> i was using uninstall instead of remove ;)
[04:26] <thoreauputic> andrea: to find packages, use ` apt-cache search <keyword> `
[04:27] <thoreauputic> andrea: sudoa apt-get install apt-howto ;)
[04:27] <thoreauputic> sudo*
[04:34] <douglas> I had a powersurge and I wantred to boot into windows to play a game but when I tried, it says unknown partition type when it tries to boot with grub, but I can mount it in linux, is this a common problem I can fix with grub. I would play counter strike in linux using cedega but it's currently borked :(
[04:36] <nxv_> is ubuntu crazy? i just installed it and allowed it to use a disc for its own and it wasted 2.5 gb for swap
[04:36] <nxv_> is ther any reason for such a big swap?
[04:37] <thoreauputic> nxv_: no -how much RAM do you have, and how big is the hard drive? Sounds nuts...
[04:38] <nxv_> 1gb ram 60gb disc
[04:38] <nxv_> i setup 512mb swap when i did it by hand in the past
[04:38] <andrea> i got a serious prob with my keyb,  its taking along time  to display the char, pc speaker  emmits a clicking sound before each click
[04:38] <thoreauputic> nxv_: I just installed on an old machine with 64MB RAM, and it gave me 125MB swap, which seems reasonable..
[04:39] <douglas> I had a powersurge and I wantred to boot into windows to play a game but when I tried, it says unknown partition type when it tries to boot with grub, but I can mount it in linux, is this a common problem I can fix with grub. I would play counter strike in linux using cedega but it's currently borked :(
[04:39] <jeramy> Could it be that it's following the "general rule" about putting double the size of your RAM as swap?
[04:39] <nxv_> twice times ram is an old rule, but doesn't make sense with more than 512 mb ram
[04:39] <thoreauputic> nxv_: maybe it's using the old "twice your RAM" rule of thumb - but that only explains 2GB
[04:39] <jeramy> I know.
[04:39] <thoreauputic> nxv_: right
[04:40] <jeramy> Well, you could always boot a liveCD and use parted to shrink it.
[04:40] <nxv_> okay, i learned for the future to do harddisk setup manualy again
[04:40] <nxv_> can i post a improvment advice for the installation routine?
[04:40] <jeramy> and file a bug?
[04:41] <thoreauputic> nxv_: yeah, file a bug
[04:41] <nxv_> thoreauputic: where do i have to go to do so?
[04:41] <thoreauputic> nxv_: there should be a check for > 512MB
[04:42] <jeramy> bugzilla.ubuntu.com I believe
[04:42] <andrea> i got a serious prob with my keyb,  its taking along time  to display the char, pc speaker  emmits a clicking sound before each click
[04:42] <nxv_> thx i will post a note there
[04:42] <jeramy> np
[04:43] <andrea> PLZ!!  i got a serious prob with my keyb,  its taking along time  to display the char, pc speaker  emmits a clicking sound before each click
[04:44] <thoreauputic> andrea: did this just start happening? What was the last thing you did/installed etc ?
[04:46] <andrea> ii  have to keep on pressing the key for it to happen...i was in kmenuedit and kept a key pressed for a long time,,,then i get this noise...not evenn restart can fix it
[04:47] <thoreauputic> andrea: I think the system thinks you want asistive technology because you held a key down for a long time
[04:47] <thoreauputic> andrea: you may find something about that in kontrol
[04:47] <andrea> how can i fix it??
[04:48] <thoreauputic> andrea: I'm not in KDE at the moment so I can't look
[04:48] <andrea> ok fixed ;)
[04:48] <thoreauputic> andrea: but it sounds like an "accessibility" thing
[04:48] <andrea> yes it was an accessability thingy
[04:48] <thoreauputic> right
[04:48] <andrea> god i tot i screwed up :)
[04:49] <thoreauputic> andrea: well, you won't try *that* again, I guess ;)
[04:49] <andrea> no i wont ;)
[04:49] <andrea> lol
[04:52] <andrea> another serious prob
[04:52] <andrea> in konqueror....while browsing files
[04:52] <andrea> i dont get the filename unless the cursor is on the file!!
[04:52] <andrea> i just get a set of icons...
[04:52] <spiral> hi
[04:55] <jeramy> andrea: if you click on tree view, what happens?
[04:56] <jeramy> oops, gone.
[04:56] <Heart|> ;)
[04:56] <andrea> back
[04:56] <andrea> plz helllp
[04:56] <jeramy> andrea: if you click on tree view, what happens?
[04:56] <andrea> i get smaller icons....and there seems to be that dotted botder around the filename....but no name
[04:57] <Heart|> krusader is best file- ftp- and so on manager for me :)
[04:57] <jeramy> That's weird.  Anything else you touched recently?  ;)
[04:57] <andrea> i mounted my win partitions
[04:57] <andrea> they seem mounted fine
[04:57] <andrea> i can access them
[04:57] <jeramy> Well, that wouldn't do it.
[04:58] <andrea> lol
[04:59] <jeramy> If you go to Settings->Configure Konqueror and then Previews & Meta-Data on the left, what do you see on the right?
[05:00] <andrea> erm.....what am i looking for on the right?
[05:01] <jeramy> ah, no, nevermind, that just shows the preview itself, not the file name.
[05:01] <andrea> i have "select protocols" on the left
[05:02] <jeramy> I was wondering what was checked in there, but that's only dealing with previews.
[05:03] <andrea> ok
[05:03] <andrea> found
[05:03] <andrea> the text colour was white ;)
[05:03] <andrea> LOLLLLL
[05:03] <jeramy> ouch!
[05:03] <andrea> geez
[05:03] <andrea> i'm a nooob
[05:03] <jeramy> Was that another accessibility option?  lol
[05:03] <andrea> now i remember why!
[05:04] <andrea> wait
[05:04] <andrea> i actually have a problem
[05:04] <andrea> lets say i;m in Kate
[05:04] <andrea> the line i am on rite now is all highlighted in blue
[05:04] <andrea> so i cant see what i'm typing
[05:04] <andrea> thats y i was fiddling with colours ;(
[05:05] <jeramy> hm.  Mine shows up as black.
[05:05] <jeramy> the text, I mean.
[05:05] <andrea> so u cant c wot u type ;)
[05:05] <andrea> well....in my case...text and background is black
[05:06] <andrea> ok fixed
[05:06] <andrea> :)
[05:06] <andrea> wots the best proggy to view dvd's?
[05:06] <andrea> :)
[05:06] <andrea> mp3's work fine xmms is soo cute ;)
[05:07] <jeramy> I use kaffeine, but you need the libdvdcss stuff installed
[05:07] <andrea> can an audio cd be played in xmms?
[05:08] <jeramy> I believe so, but I can't get audio CDs to play on my laptop.  :(
[05:08] <jeramy> I think it's more of a hardware issue rather than software
[05:09] <andrea> miao ;)
[05:10] <jeramy> andrea: if you go to ubuntuguide.org, there's instructions on how to install the dvd viewer backend.
[05:12] <andrea> that guide kicks ass ;)
[05:12] <jeramy> yep
[05:13] <SanAndreas> hello
[05:13] <SanAndreas> is there a way to kill X, and avoid it respawning until the next time I boot?
[05:13] <andrea> hi
[05:13] <andrea> in grub
[05:13] <andrea> go to the kernel line
[05:13] <andrea> press 'e'
[05:14] <bretzel> Hi there -- I am downloading from kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 repo, but I see no KDE3.4.1 (kde3.4.0 only, but there is an update at least ...) All this for getting kdevelop-3.2.1 eventually ...
[05:14] <andrea> then go to the end of the line and type "init=2" without the quotes
[05:14] <andrea> before doing this press 'e' again though
[05:14] <SanAndreas> but I'm already booted. is there a way to do it here now?
[05:14] <andrea> after doing the init thing
[05:14] <andrea> press 'b'
[05:14] <andrea> oh
[05:14] <andrea> ermmmm
[05:14] <SanAndreas> (oh, and how do I change "windows" in IRSSI?
[05:14] <andrea> in that case i wouldnt know
[05:15] <andrea> i gtg for now peeps thanks for ur help :)
[05:15] <andrea> SanAndreas.....ask some1 here....there are many who are far better than me ;)
[05:15] <SanAndreas> how do I change window in irssi? someone said something in another channel
[05:15] <SanAndreas> ok, I will :)
[05:15] <bretzel> oops! back to read what is downloaded: it is 3.4.1 in fact :-) sorry :-)
[05:16] <Tm_T> SanAndreas: alt+arrows
[05:16] <Tm_T> left-right
[05:16] <Tm_T> SanAndreas: and alt+number
[05:16] <SanAndreas> ok
[05:16] <Tm_T> AND
[05:16] <jeramy> bretzel: what version do you have now?
[05:16] <mrmanic> SanAndreas: pretty sure you can just type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:16] <Tm_T> was it enough?
[05:16] <SanAndreas> ok I'll try that
[05:16] <mrmanic> er, in answer to your earlier question
[05:16] <bretzel> jeramy: 3.4.0
[05:16] <amu>  /window 429
[05:17] <jeramy> oh, of kdevelop, sorry.
[05:17] <Riddell> amu has even more irc windows than me
[05:17] <bretzel> jeramy: :-) hehehe 3.2.0, I read 3.2.1 have foxes for SVN support :-)
[05:18] <Tm_T> Riddell: hmm, how many do you have?
[05:18] <jeramy> foxes?
[05:18] <bretzel> fixes: sorry for the typo
[05:18] <Riddell> Tm_T: 69
[05:18] <jeramy> ah.  :)
[05:18] <Tm_T> Riddell: heh, ~40 in 2 different clients
[05:18] <amu> Riddell: hrhrh, nope you're nr. 1, i never seen someone which has more window than you
[05:18] <SanAndreas> ah, it worked
[05:18] <SanAndreas> thanks
[05:19] <Tm_T> it's easier to move between Konsole sessions than two networks in same irssi
[05:19] <Tm_T> amu: heh, one of my friend used to have more than 150 windows :/
[05:19] <bretzel> Riddel: I have switched to kde ? I see you only on this channel since several weeks :-)
[05:20] <Tm_T> amu: that's just too much I think
[05:20] <bretzel> Riddell: oops! sorry mixed two sentences ...
[05:20] <mrmanic> Tm_T: how do you keep track of that many?
[05:20] <stibby> how do i upgrade to KDE 3.4.1?
[05:20] <bretzel> Riddell: -> Have switched to KDE ? ( kubuntu )
[05:20] <amu> Tm_T: 150, that's nothing, you didnt saw Riddell :)
[05:21] <bretzel> amu: didn't saw ??? hehehe I am not english naturally speaking but this grammar error is funny
[05:22] <amu> bretzel: right, we're all here cause of fun
[05:23] <bretzel> amu: yeah! indeed
[05:23] <stibby> how do i upgrade to KDE 3.4.1?
[05:24] <bretzel> amu: Me is Canadian french and have lots of funny english lacks
[05:25] <amu> bretzel: CONGRATS, /ME me is swabian german
[05:26] <bretzel> amu: And I have my nickname since 1994, knowing that this word is a kind of german cake :-)
[05:26] <jeramy> bretzel: Avec un nom comme a?  Non!
[05:26] <bretzel> jeramy: :-)
[05:27] <stibby> how do i upgrade to KDE 3.4.1?
[05:27] <bretzel> jearmy: Yes I am Canadien francais
[05:27] <closure> stibby, sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:27] <jeramy> I'm, um, half-Canadien franais.
[05:27] <stibby> is 3.4.1 in the repositories already?
[05:27] <jeramy> stibby: check the topic.  :)
[05:27] <amu> stibby: http://kudos.berlios.de/
[05:27] <closure> stibby,  fairly sure atleast in the backports
[05:28] <amu> bretzel: wow, cool, i've also my nickname since 1994 *g*
[05:28] <bretzel> stibby: I've just finished to upgrade to 3.4.1 : Scrollup your chat windowtext to the top and read KDE 3.4.1: topic, there is the URL of the repository :-)
[05:28] <stibby> k
[05:29] <bretzel> stibby: "deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main"
[05:29] <stibby> k
[05:29] <stibby> thanks
[05:30] <Heart|> what do i have to add to the sources.list for kubuntu backports?
[05:30] <Heart|> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[05:30] <Heart|> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[05:30] <Heart|> ?
[05:30] <bretzel> amu: hahaha! There were not yet internet(tcpip etc...) @home as we know theese days... Then I was chatting to our local BBS server -- I recall at that time I had the latest modem speed: 2400 bps!!! :-)
[05:31] <stibby> bretzel: now do sudo apt-get upgrade?
[05:31] <jeramy> stibby: do sudo apt-get update
[05:31] <jeramy> and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:32] <bretzel> stibby: did you add that repo to the sources.list ?
[05:32] <stibby> yes
[05:32] <stibby> thats it?
[05:32] <jeramy> that's it.
[05:32] <bretzel> :-)
[05:32] <stibby> how can i tell?
[05:32] <bretzel> I have did it using synaptic ...
[05:33] <bretzel> stibby: how can you tell what ?
[05:33] <stibby> that i upgraded successfully
[05:34] <bretzel> stibby: Did you run sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[05:34] <stibby> no
[05:34] <jeramy> Did you see a whole bunch of stuff spew by?  (or a few minutes of progress bar scrolling?)
[05:34] <bretzel> ah! then previously "apt-get update ?" to sync the repos ?
[05:34] <stibby> ah; now i can see some work being done :)
[05:34] <stibby> if i wanted to compile everything myself; how would i go about doing it?
[05:35] <stibby> or is that a plain no-no with debian?
[05:35] <jeramy> stibby: KDE 3.4.1?
[05:35] <stibby> yes
[05:35] <amu> bretzel: right, i run this time also a bbs with but with a (mail+news) great times, no stress and lot of fun, and a distro was 10 floopy disc's
[05:35] <bretzel> stibby: first, you have to suicide yourself... :-) Compiling kde - if you go out for the weekend and go back and see compilers/packages errors! :-) :-)
[05:35] <jeramy> Do you want it and the one from SVN at the same time?
[05:36] <jeramy> That's my current setup
[05:36] <stibby> i'm not sure
[05:36] <stibby> i don't even know what svn is. is it the same as a package (with a ./configure and then a make)?
[05:36] <jeramy> Believe it or not, KDE was a breeze to compile.  It took a while, but I got no errors (except for one) ;)
[05:37] <bretzel> amu: distro ? linux ? hehehe I didn;t know linux at that time...unfortunately
[05:37] <jeramy> No, SVN = Subversion = The absolute latest latest
[05:37] <bretzel> jeramy: Absolute latest isn't KDE 3.5 ? I dunno
[05:37] <jeramy> Well... you could compile the 3.4.1 branch from Subversion
[05:38] <jeramy> bretzel: Not yet.
[05:38] <stibby> how do you get it from SVN?
[05:38] <Heart|> so my question again.... which lines i have to add in the sources.list for kubuntu that i have the backports?
[05:39] <bretzel> jeramy: not yet... I started to really love linux in the year of 1998 ( redhat6.?; slackware(3.4) )
[05:39] <jeramy> Let me find it.  There's docs on kde.org.  It's a step-by-step process.
[05:40] <stibby> oh okay
[05:40] <stibby> if you give me a link i'll read it
[05:40] <bretzel> Regarding kde3.4.0 to kde-3.4.1: I am in KDE env right now... I am scared to launch any other kde apps :-) I am going to restart kde-session to be fully in kde-3.4.1
[05:41] <jeramy> bretzel: I used it in university.  I even installed Red Hat 5.1 on my machine, but I never used it (I couldn't get my modem to work) :(
[05:41] <jeramy> but it's not until 2 years ago or so that I really picked it up
[05:41] <stibby> red hat is pretty much dying
[05:42] <bretzel> jeramy: I remeber configuring my modem only successfull with slackware 3.4 with its nice config UI
[05:43] <jeramy> stibby: http://quality.kde.org/develop/cvsguide/
[05:43] <amu> hehe, redhat was the reason to switch to debian, all time those depends problems :D
[05:43] <jeramy> I had a POS Zoltrix modem.  :P
[05:43] <bretzel> sproingie: I remember also seeing some guys at university running linux console with ls-colors!
[05:45] <bretzel> sproingie: it was also in 1992, I was working as security agent ( officer) I made some good friends students who were resident on the campus
[05:45] <sproingie> bretzel: color ls actually drives me nuts.  they STILL think dark blue on black is readable
[05:46] <stibby> jeramy: thanks
[05:46] <stibby> i'm wondering if debian would be easier to maintain if i'm always compiling the latest version
[05:47] <bretzel> sproingie: color-ls: I know
[05:47] <sproingie> egad, i gotta get going
[05:47] <sproingie> later all
[05:47] <jeramy> stibby: What's wrong with apt?
[05:48] <stibby> you can't always get the latest versions
[05:48] <stibby> and i've had issues with it
[05:48] <stibby> for example, i installed Koffice, but I can't uninstall it and uninstall all of those packages all at once
[05:48] <bretzel> see you later :-0 thanks
[05:48] <jeramy> Well... ok.  So have I.  :)
[05:49] <jeramy> stibby: maybe you should use LFS.  :)
[05:50] <stibby> linux from scratch?
[05:50] <jeramy> For kicks, I'm installing rpath linux, which uses a packaging system called Conary.  Looks neat.
[05:50] <stibby> jeramy: i want debian sarge
[05:50] <jeramy> Yeah, I'm just joking.
[05:50] <stibby> i can't get it...all of the iso's i've tried to download say their corrupted
[05:51] <jeramy> strange... did you try different mirrors?
[05:52] <stibby> yeh
[05:52] <stibby> i'll try agian with firefox...konqueror was doing weird things
[05:52] <vicks> when is breezy due?
[05:52] <buz> october
[05:53] <stibby> jeramy: do i need to restart my computer to see kde 3.4.1? or just kill kdm?
[05:53] <vicks> ok
[05:53] <jeramy> Just kill kdm.
[05:53] <vicks> anyone knows if there are som goodies in it that i can long for over the summer?
[05:54] <closure> http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/16/1212215&from=rss
[05:56] <bretzel> yeah, running kde-4.3.1, and kdevelop-3.2.1 -- but Since I use ubun/kubuntu, the Kdevelop docs about QT and KDE are not there...
[05:58] <yourghetek> when i edit my menu it has icons by default ready to use, those include icons to apps i've installed how do i add icons to that directory?
[05:58] <yourghetek> where is that directory?>
[06:01] <jeramy> yourghetek: I would check somewhere around here: /usr/share/icons/default.kde
[06:16] <andrea> I've installed Xine.....but when i try to play a dvd it gives me this error: The Source Can't be Read: Maybe you dont have enough rights for this, or source doesnt contain data. (Error reading NAV packet
[06:17] <yourghetek> does totem do the same?
[06:17] <andrea> i dont have totem rite now
[06:18] <andrea> in the messages i have a lot of audiodecoder errors
[06:20] <andrea> let me install totem
[06:23] <andrea> totem is installed....i did "Play Disc"....the dvd-rom light is going off and on
[06:23] <andrea> but totem seems to have hanged
[06:24] <andrea> are there some specific codec i need?
[06:24] <jeramy> andrea: Try installing libdvdnav4
[06:25] <andrea> its already the newset version
[06:26] <jeramy> ok
[06:27] <andrea> wot else can i do?
[06:28] <jeramy> Which version of totem is it?  There's two.  totem-gstreamer and totem-xine
[06:29] <jeramy> If you just installed the totem package, it's probably totem-gstreamer
[06:29] <andrea> Totem 1.0.1
[06:29] <andrea> Movie Player using GStreamer version 0.8.9
[06:30] <jeramy> Try totem-xine, although I can't be any more help than that.  :(  (It's in synaptic/kynaptic)
[06:30] <andrea> ok lemme try
[06:31] <andrea> The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?
[06:32] <jeramy> You did install libdvdcss, right?
[06:32] <andrea> i just did sudo apt-get install libdvdcss
[06:32] <andrea> and i got this
[06:33] <andrea> Package libdvdcss is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:33] <andrea> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:33] <andrea> is only available from another source
[06:33] <andrea> E: Package libdvdcss has no installation candidate
[06:33] <jeramy> Did you add the marillat repository?
[06:33] <andrea> let me check..dont tihnk so
[06:34] <andrea> where is the sources list?
[06:34] <jeramy> That would be why. :)
[06:34] <hornsby> the new marillat : deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat sarge main  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat sid main  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat etch main
[06:34] <jeramy> in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:35] <jeramy> hornsby: when running hoary, which one do you use?
[06:35] <hornsby> all of them
[06:35] <hornsby> :)
[06:36] <hornsby> but carefuly
[06:36] <hornsby> jeramy,  why do you need it ?
[06:37] <jeramy> I have "unstable" in mine atm, but I can't play DVDs either.  Probably more because I can't get my DVD-ROM to recognise them.
[06:38] <hornsby> did you download the libdvdcss2 ?
[06:38] <jeramy> Yeah.  I think it's a hardware problem.
[06:38] <hornsby> and did you check your dvd Rom has udma ?
[06:38] <jeramy> I have to push it in sometimes before I can finish booting.  :)
[06:39] <jeramy> using hdparm?
[06:39] <hornsby> jeramy, correct
[06:39] <jeramy> I believe I did at one time or another.
[06:39] <hornsby> something like : /dev/hdc {write_cache = on dma = on transfer_mode = 68 interrupt_unmask = on io32_support = 3 }
[06:39] <andrea> dvd's are workinggg ;)
[06:40] <jeramy> yay!
[06:40] <hornsby> jeramy,  it is in the /etc/hdparm.conf
[06:40] <hornsby> just have a short look, I had similar problem
[06:41] <yourghetek> anybody know why i get a "dirname" error when trying to install creatures3?
[06:41] <jeramy> Everything is commented.  I re-installed after my Breezy install went south... :)
[06:42] <hornsby> jeramy, Breezy is still on hard dev. not recommended to use if you are not a dev ... ;)
[06:42] <jeramy> I know.
[06:42] <andrea> my 5.1 aint working
[06:43] <andrea> in xine its set to 5.1
[06:43] <andrea> but i only get sound form my fronts
[06:43] <jeramy> It was really bad.  I could only run the most basic of programs.  Like ls.
[06:43] <hornsby> :)
[06:43] <jeramy> When dhclient failed, I had to switch to a static IP so I could transfer my files off. :)
[06:44] <jeramy> I suppose it would help if /dev/hdc even showed up in the list.
[06:44] <hornsby> correct
[06:44] <hornsby> :)
[06:44] <andrea> y isnt sound coming out in 5.1?
[06:44] <andrea> :(
[06:44] <hornsby> unless you have another one for your dvd :)
[06:46] <jeramy> cd /dev && ls hd* returns "hda hda1 hda2 hda5" and considering it used to be called hdc, I doubt it.  :)
[06:46] <hornsby> jeramy, at least you know the problem now :)
[06:47] <jeramy> Oh, I already knew that Linux doesn't detect it sometimes.
[06:47] <hornsby> what is the brand ?
[06:47] <jeramy> The orange light comes on, and I can hear it spin up.
[06:47] <andrea> wot brand?
[06:47] <jeramy> HP Omnibook 6000.  :)
[06:48] <hornsby> the dvd ?
[06:48] <jeramy> Whatever came with an omnibook 6000.  :)
[06:48] <hornsby> must be a LG :)
[06:48] <jeramy> Could be.  :)  It's not labeled.
[06:48] <hornsby> ok
[06:49] <hornsby> well, did you get it work before you Breezed it ? :)
[06:50] <jeramy> It works I think if you push it in hard enough when it's booting, but to test that theory I have to power down..
[06:50] <hornsby> weird theory ! byebye :)
[06:51] <jeramy> Before I re-installed, if I didn't push it in I'd get this kernel error when it tried to start LVM.
[06:51] <jeramy> ciao!
[06:52] <markc> my amarok won't play mp3s, plays oggs fine, any ideas ?
[06:52] <hornsby> markc, is xmms playing the same mp3s amarok doesn't play ?
[06:53] <markc> hornsby> no, it's not playing them either.. I think alsaplayer does though
[06:54] <hornsby> try to use another engine in amarok to try
[06:54] <hornsby> or actually, which one are you using now ?
[06:54] <hornsby> try with any of Xine, gstreamer or artsd
[06:55] <markc> hornsby> arts... hangon, xmms is playing mp3s from the command line, just not remotely via m3u/pls
[06:56] <markc> hornsby> which engine do you think it best for amarok ?
[06:56] <hornsby>  check your : sudo vi /etc/esound/esd.conf
[06:57] <hornsby> and check in #flood what you should have
[06:57] <yourghetek> kontact uses kmail?
[06:58] <jeramy> yep
[06:58] <yourghetek> mmm does kmail work with gmail?
[06:58] <hornsby> markc,
[06:58] <markc> hornsby> yep, got that except my -as = 5
[06:58] <hornsby> markc, i use arts
[06:59] <jeramy> Y'know... that's a good idea.  :)
[06:59] <jeramy> gmail supports POP3, I think.
[06:59] <markc> hornsby> and your playing mp3s fine, I presume... perhaps it's because I'm using breezy
[07:00] <jeramy> My only problem right now is that over the past month, I've got 150 Chinese spam in my inbox.
[07:00] <hornsby> markc, well, breezy is very unstable and not recommended to work on
[07:00] <jeramy> from gmail
[07:00] <jeramy> hornsby: /dev/hdc is back
[07:00] <hornsby> markc, there are not support for breezy right now
[07:00] <hornsby> jeramy, great news :)
[07:01] <jeramy> It was either the "push" theory, or the "I don't recognise this screwy DVD, so I won't load the drive" theory.
[07:01] <hornsby> markc, you can hardly do anything at the moment with Breezy, so I recommended if you are not a dev, to go back to Hoary
[07:01] <hornsby> jeramy, is udma on now ?
[07:01] <markc> hornsby> there are a few little things that don't work, it's 99.9% okay (for me on amd64)
[07:02] <hornsby> markc, you are one lucky guy :)
[07:02] <Heart> are the backport debs for kubuntu and ubuntu the same?
[07:02] <Heart> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[07:02] <jeramy> o boy.  I put in a CD and now there's a "Mounting /dev/hdc" windows that staying open.
[07:02] <Heart> and the "...extra" one ?
[07:03] <hornsby> Heart, yes
[07:03] <markc> hornsby> right, maybe I don't know how lucky I am then
[07:03] <jeramy> hornsby: the only thing uncommented in hdparm.conf is "quiet"
[07:04] <hornsby> jeramy, do you have dma = on ?
[07:04] <jeramy> Not as a result of that.  Let me just run hdparm /dev/hdc -i
[07:05] <jeramy> ok... not good.  It's just hanging there.
[07:05] <amu> Heart: nope, ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net is done by a unknown person, while kubuntu's backports are offical
[07:05] <hornsby> amu, what is the address then ?
[07:06] <markc> hornsby> ah, amarok-xine is now playing an mp3... thanks for your help :)
[07:06] <amu> see the topic
[07:06] <hornsby> markc,  no prob
[07:06] <jeramy> should I just kill -9 the hdparm?
[07:08] <hornsby> amu, they are not backport in the topic, right ?
[07:08] <jeramy> if it's even possible.  Its status is "uninterruptible"
[07:09] <Heart> amu: you mean the kde3.4.1 deb !? but i cant see backports!?
[07:09] <hornsby> Heart, I use the same as ubuntu, it worked so far
[07:10] <Heart> k
[07:10] <hornsby> jeramy, it's a funny dvd you have there
[07:11] <Heart> i updated the list and aptitude wants upgrade eg mozilla-firefox.... but it updates mozilla-firefox to 1.0.4 and automatically installs "firefox" 1.0.4!? <-- why that?
[07:11] <KaiL> the package name changed
[07:12] <jeramy> yep.  Not much I can do about it at this point.
[07:12] <Heart> so its now firefox?
[07:12] <KaiL> yes
[07:12] <Heart> but there are mozilla-firefox and firefox then installed... thats ok?
[07:12] <KaiL> afaik "firefox" removes "mozilla-firefox" then
[07:13] <amu> Heart: i'm not sure what you mean, but i'll never install software from untrusted internet source, there could be backdoors in it, root exploits and so on
[07:16] <Heart> "ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net is done by a unknown person" ... <-- he isn't "unknown"... he has an own place on http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[07:16] <Heart> or better... the mirormax... is the mirror from his backport
[07:18] <amu> ubuntuforums.org sint in any relation of ubuntu/kubuntu it's a just a cool portal, nobody takes care about quality of the backpackes, no security maintance
[07:18] <hornsby> Heart is right : http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[07:18] <amu> sint/isnt
[07:19] <hornsby> actually, amu is :) Ubuntu Backports is an unofficial, community project, and is NOT supported or endorsed by Canonical, Ltd., who makes Ubuntu. Please report all bugs to me via Ubuntu Forums, and NOT to Canonical!
[07:20] <Heart> sure... though the name backports :)
[07:20] <amu> hornsby: sure i'm right, such backports can break your hole sys ... and than people complain kubuntu isnt working
[07:21] <hornsby> amu, true
[07:22] <amu> this socalled "community project" isnt one .. if there something cool or missing everyone can join the Motu team
[07:22] <Heart> he "only" makes backports for web, graphic... things... no libs and system critical things....
[07:23] <amu> .. which has quality standarts and security maintance
[07:24] <amu> Heart: do want test a "web.deb" from my archive, which send me your password and format your harddisk ?
[07:24] <hornsby> anyway, if you use kubuntu, you shouldn't need backporting :)
[07:25] <amu> hornsby: in some cases you need them
[07:26] <hornsby> ok, but it has to be very specific, not the everyday web/office guy, so if someone use them, probably he/her knows what they do
[07:26] <Heart> i have some problems with firefox.... it causes 100% cpu usage when i start firefox
[07:26] <amu> hornsby: ack, a good example is clamav
[07:28] <hornsby> amu, can't you install it without the backport ?
[07:29] <amu> Heart: i've also firefox from hoary, it runs fine
[07:29] <Heart> runs fine here too till yesterday :( (didn't updated it)
[07:29] <steph> how do i restart x? with kubuntu /etc/init.d/kdm restart doesnt do the job
[07:29] <amu> Heart: that's another problem if you install 3rd level software nobody will hel you
[07:29] <Heart> steph: ctrl+alt+backspace !?
[07:29] <amu> steph: press crtl-alt-back
[07:30] <steph> hehe, cool
[07:30] <steph> thank you!
[07:30] <Heart> amu: i didnt have installed anything from backports till now :)
[07:31] <amu> Heart: *g* not offical BACKPORTS are evil
[07:31] <amu> Heart: you run hoary?
[07:31] <Heart> yes
[07:32] <amu> which case it produce 100% cpu load
[07:32] <Heart> ?
[07:33] <amu> Heart: you start firefox and your cpu-useage is at 100%
[07:33] <Heart> yes
[07:34] <amu> what happen if you move .mozilla .mozilla-old and restart it
[07:34] <Heart> so make a new profile?
[07:35] <Heart> ohhh, one site i visit which was on a tab caused this!!! how can this be :(
[07:36] <andrea> hey ppl.....i cant set up my 5.1 sound well
[07:36] <andrea> i dont hear most channels when playing a dvd
[07:36] <amu> Heart: :)
[07:37] <bigcyris> quit
[07:38] <andrea> wot can i do?
[07:43] <jeramy> andrea: what kind of sound card?
[07:43] <jeramy> (I give no guarantees of solving your problem)
[07:44] <jeramy> I've never had a 5.1 sound card
[07:44] <andrea> i'm using an onboard soundcard
[07:44] <andrea> with an Asus P4P800 mobo
[07:44] <andrea> AC97 i think
[07:47] <jeramy> I assume that there's no control for them in KMix?
[07:48] <andrea> for the diverse channels?
[07:48] <andrea> no
[07:58] <jeramy> For anybody out there, is KMix tied to arts?
[07:58] <jeramy> andrea: I'm wondering if you tried to run alsaconfig or something if it would show up there.
[07:59] <jeramy> Try alsamixer, sorry, in a Konsole
[08:00] <andrea> yeah they all seem off
[08:00] <andrea> how can i turn them on in the alsamixer?
[08:04] <jeramy> oh, you should just be able to use the arrow keys
[08:04] <andrea> yes but i;m not getting something
[08:05] <andrea> Centre/LFE jack as input.......wots that mean?
[08:05] <jeramy> I have no idea what most of them are.  You probably don't want inputs though.  :)
[08:07] <amu> andrea: i've a audigy with Tritech tr28602, i can finetune only 3 channels
[08:08] <andrea> seems to be working now ;)
[08:08] <andrea> but i'mnot getting good vocals
[08:08] <andrea> only the music sounds okay
[08:08] <andrea> :(
[08:09] <amu> same here, for computer-sound that's with me
[08:09] <andrea> wots LFE?
[08:11] <jeramy> I take it it's a music DVD?
[08:11] <andrea> what does LFE mean?
[08:11] <andrea> no its a movie
[08:11] <andrea> the soundtrack sounds ok
[08:11] <andrea> but vocals and film sound seeem very FAAAR
[08:13] <jeramy> Well.. we passed my realm of expertise a long time ago.  I take it you've played around more with the alsamixer settings?
[08:14] <andrea> yes i'm trying
[08:14] <andrea> :(
[08:14] <jeramy> Sorry I can't be of any more help.  :(
[08:14] <andrea> anyone knows wot LFE stands for ?
[08:14] <andrea> np jeramy
[08:14] <andrea> 10ks!
[08:14] <jeramy> Low Frequency Effects
[08:16] <jeramy> It's the "boom" track, apparently.  I just googled for it.
[08:16] <andrea> i tihnk i fixed ;)
[08:18] <jeramy> cool!
[08:23] <andrea> well i still cant get the rears working
[08:26] <andrea> is there a better mixer ican use?
[08:30] <jeramy> Just for kicks, can you open up KMix and go to the "Switches" tab?
[08:31] <andrea> yes and?
[08:31] <jeramy> turn them all on?
[08:31] <jeramy> Oh, I missed that "can't get the rears working" :(
[08:31] <andrea> but wait
[08:31] <andrea> i dont know wot certain stuff means
[08:31] <andrea> its confusing
[08:32] <andrea> Kmix is a MUST fix
[08:32] <jeramy> It can't hurt to turn them all on and try them.  ;)
[08:33] <andrea> nothing
[08:33] <andrea> this should be as simple as "Front" "Rear" "Centre/Sub"
[08:33] <andrea> come on!
[08:33] <jeramy> no kidding.
[08:34] <andrea> Spread front to surround and centre/LFE
[08:34] <andrea> wot the hell is that supposed to mean?
[08:49] <andrea> this is ridiculous
[08:53] <jeramy> It may be that the people who wrote the Linux driver for the sound on that chip didn't have the specifications available.
[08:54] <andrea> its the most widely used onboard sound system!!!!!!
[08:55] <andrea> is there a detailed Kmix guide somewhere?
[08:55] <jeramy> and if ASUS doesn't let anybody know how to talk to it, then we don't get a good driver.
[08:56] <liz4rd> andrea: whats so complicated about kmix?
[08:56] <jeramy> until someone reverse-engineers it (or most of it), which is likely the case here.
[08:57] <jeramy> liz4rd: just some of the names are obtuse
[08:58] <andrea> the names in kmix are horrible
[08:58] <liz4rd> oh ok
[08:58] <andrea> it should all be "Front" "Rear" "Centre/Sub"
[08:58] <liz4rd> anyone trying out opera8? its pretty fast
[08:58] <buz> its evil payware
[08:58] <jeramy> andrea isn't getting sound with rear speakers in a 5.1 setup.
[08:59] <andrea> is there a detailed kmix guide for 5.1 setup?
[08:59] <liz4rd> buz:meh the text ads i dont care about
[08:59] <buz> and it doesnt s upport extensions
[08:59] <liz4rd> :P
[08:59] <liz4rd> w/e i guess i dont use it for movie viewing and what not
[09:00] <andrea> so wot ur tellin me is....use windows for movies??
[09:00] <andrea> come on :)
[09:00] <buz> use a dvd player
[09:00] <liz4rd> :P nah i user linux for movies
[09:00] <andrea> i dont have a dvd player in my room :)
[09:01] <andrea> if windows can make it work...then so should linux ;)
[09:01] <liz4rd> my computer hasnt sniffed windoze for 9 months...i'm really proud :P
[09:01] <buz> tehy have one big advantage: girlfriend understand them, too
[09:03] <andrea> godddd
[09:03] <andrea> i cant play a darn dvd ;(
[09:03] <andrea> or better
[09:03] <andrea> i cant hear anything
[09:03] <liz4rd> OMG
[09:05] <andrea> now i got front and rear and sub working well
[09:05] <andrea> but no vocals :(
[09:05] <andrea> name a pdf viewer plz?
[09:05] <buz> kpdf
[09:06] <liz4rd> lol
[09:06] <liz4rd> you beat me
[09:07] <firasR> hi all
[09:07] <liz4rd> hi
[09:08] <andrea> i'm getting very angrry
[09:08] <firasR> andrea:  why's that ?
[09:13] <andrea> because i cant get a good 5.1 sound system set up
[09:15] <andrea> and Kmix aint helpin
[09:22] <firasR> andrea:  ur sound card's not working at all ?
[09:23] <andrea> no it is
[09:23] <andrea> but i cant get a good 5.1 setup
[09:23] <andrea> its eiether a good 2.1 setup...or else front and rears with no audible vocals
[09:23] <andrea> etc etc
[09:24] <firasR> works ok with me at least with movies on my Creative Labs SB Live! with 5.1 speakers
[09:24] <andrea> does anybody here use a 5.1 setup ??
[09:25] <andrea> ok ermmm
[09:25] <andrea> can u guide me ;) ?
[09:25] <firasR> haven't tried anything else though
[09:25] <andrea> so in the outputs....
[09:25] <andrea> wot are the levels...one by one?
[09:25] <firasR> didn't do much really, just worked out of the box
[09:26] <firasR> however not all movies support this, and i had to fiddle with kaffeine/gxine/totem settings to get it working
[09:26] <andrea> can i replicate ur levels?
[09:26] <firasR> alright, here goes
[09:28] <andrea> 10ks
[09:30] <firasR> how about u tell me what u need and i'll tell u what it's set to in kmix
[09:30] <firasR> they might differ if we have different sound cards
[09:30] <andrea> ok....
[09:30] <andrea> Master Mono
[09:31] <andrea> is it mute?
[09:31] <firasR> dont' have one, only got Master
[09:31] <andrea> Master Surround?
[09:32] <firasR> dont' have one
[09:32] <firasR> let's see if i can paste a screen print somewhere for u
[09:32] <andrea> sure lol
[09:33] <firasR> by the way, do u have a built-in sound card as well ?
[09:33] <andrea> yes
[09:33] <firasR> i remember that caused problems for me until i disabled it in the bios
[09:33] <firasR> and what's ur PCI sound card ?
[09:33] <andrea> i dont have a pci sound card
[09:33] <andrea> i use the onboard one!
[09:34] <firasR> andrea:  oh ok :) hehe
[09:34] <firasR> u sure it can handle 5.1 ? does it have enough output jacks and all ?
[09:34] <andrea> yes i'm sure
[09:35] <andrea> and its perfect in windows :)
[09:35] <andrea> it uses the mic jack as centre/sub etc etc
[09:43] <andrea> 10ksss
[09:43] <andrea> its so different lol
[09:43] <andrea> :(
[09:45] <firasR> andrea:  yeah that's the problem
[09:46] <andrea> now i got front and rear and sub working ok
[09:46] <philipacamaniac> Riddell, I found some improvements to the kwifimanager icons; interested?
[09:48] <Riddell> philipacamaniac: sure
[09:48] <philipacamaniac> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=25474 (svg source included)
[09:50] <andrea> damn damn damn damn damnnnn
[09:50] <andrea> is there any other mixer i can try besides kmix?
[09:50] <andrea> plzzzzz
[10:01] <liz4rd> everyone upload your screenshots to http://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload username: public password: user
[10:01] <yourghetek> ?
[10:01] <liz4rd> :)
[10:01] <yourghetek> ooooooh
[10:02] <yourghetek> liking the interface
[10:03] <liz4rd> thx
[10:03] <yourghetek> how do i get to the "xml-rpc" to connect kontacts korganize to egroupware?
[10:03] <liz4rd> upload a screenshot i just deleted the old ones
[10:04] <yourghetek> uploaded a ubuntu logo hehe
[10:04] <liz4rd> kubuntu
[10:05] <liz4rd> :)
[10:12] <tabasko> help, i changed resolution and under panel gots now black space :(
[10:14] <petro> is the new Kopete not in the repos yet?
[10:15] <philipacamaniac> kopete 3.4.1 is available at kubuntu.org
[10:18] <petro> philipacamaniac: I take it you mean 0.10
[10:18] <petro> philipacamaniac: but the one in the repositories seems to still have the MSN login bug
[10:18] <philipacamaniac> I gave the package versino, specifically kopete 4:3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary2
[10:19] <petro> philipacamaniac: ok, sure. It's still old as in it has a bug; MSN, on it, is unusable
[10:20] <philipacamaniac> you've tested it using KDE 3.4.1?
[10:20] <iahim> any one know a link for quake2 for ubuntu?
[10:21] <petro> philipacamaniac: hm, nope. Not exactly sure how to update KDE; I apparently have latest kdebase/kdelibs, but I'm still running 3.4 here
[10:21] <tabasko> hey, someone help with this black space please :,(
[10:21] <tabasko> there snapshot: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/tabasko/valokuva1.png
[10:21] <philipacamaniac> petro: see topic, you must add "deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main" to your sources.list
[10:21] <tabasko> cosmetic problem, but still :(
[10:22] <petro> philipacamaniac: yup, I have it there
[10:22] <petro> oh no wait
[10:22] <petro> heh. Didn't realise the extra folder there. Sorry. Will do now
[10:28] <petro> Gonna try it out now; thanks for the help.
[10:35] <bpfick> Has anyone here done a dual boot on Mac?
[11:01] <morten> .... When will the next Kubuntu be released ?
[11:01] <KaiL> October
[11:02] <ToyMan> anyone here using win4lin?
[11:04] <ToyMan> actually, it's win4linPro i'm looking at.  they have a .deb install, just wondered if there were performance/reliability issues...
[11:05] <microhaxo> Yo guys
[11:05] <microhaxo> i get this error when tryin to play AMERICAS ARMY
[11:05] <microhaxo> Xlib:  extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:05] <microhaxo> is there a simple fix for this?
[11:06] <jeramy> ToyMan: I checked out their forums about 20 mins ago.  Looks like there's major speed issues.
[11:08] <ToyMan> jeramy, yeah, i saw that too
[11:09] <ToyMan> not sure if it's just the complainers posting, though
[11:09] <jeramy> Me either.  But from the looks of things, it's just a prettied up version of QEMU
[11:10] <jeramy> and I ran QEMU with the accelerator module on my PC, and then tried to install Windows XP.  Boy, was that a mistake.
[11:10] <liz4rd> everyone upload your screenshots here :) http://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload/  username: public password: user
[11:11] <jeramy> oops.  Gotta go!
[11:11] <microhaxo> LIZ4rd
[11:12] <microhaxo> how do you make your screen apear so big?
[11:12] <microhaxo> mine looks fkin 800/600 res
[11:12] <liz4rd> lol
[11:12] <microhaxo> ?
[11:12] <liz4rd> cuz i made it that size?
[11:12] <liz4rd> upload a screenshot
[11:12] <microhaxo> no
[11:12] <microhaxo> i mean
[11:13] <microhaxo> how can i make my desktop appear larger??
[11:13] <microhaxo> you get me?
[11:13] <microhaxo> lol
[11:13] <microhaxo> all windows and shit are HUUUGE
[11:13] <microhaxo> i cant fit more than one console on my screen
[11:14] <liz4rd> are you using KDE?
[11:14] <microhaxo> yes
[11:15] <liz4rd> control center
[11:15] <liz4rd> look around
[11:18] <microhaxo> lol
[11:18] <microhaxo> that helps
[11:25] <microhaxo> Well
[11:25] <efiloN> microhaxo: control center -> appearance & themes -> fonts
[11:25] <microhaxo> found out somthin
[11:25] <microhaxo> fontS?
[11:25] <efiloN> then change the size of the fonts one or two steps down
[11:25] <microhaxo> k
[11:25] <efiloN> that's how I did it
[11:25] <efiloN> dunno if that's the easiest way :P
[11:26] <microhaxo> made things a lil better
[11:26] <microhaxo> lol
[11:26] <microhaxo> the graphics driver
[11:27] <microhaxo> wont RECOGNISE r420
[11:27] <microhaxo> :|
[11:27] <microhaxo> so i had to put it r350
[11:27] <microhaxo> eh
[11:27] <microhaxo> changed my resolution
[11:27] <microhaxo> 1280/1024
[11:27] <microhaxo> lot better :D
[11:27] <efiloN> ;P
[11:27] <microhaxo> lol
[11:27] <microhaxo> Back
[11:27] <microhaxo> to
[11:27] <microhaxo> this damn AMERICAS ARMY error
[11:28] <microhaxo> somthin with 0:0
[11:29] <microhaxo> Xlib:  extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:29] <microhaxo> anyone fix that?
[11:30] <KaiL> bad driver?
[11:30] <microhaxo> nah
[11:30] <microhaxo> its fine
[11:30] <microhaxo> get 7302 in glxgears
[11:30] <KaiL> "NONSTANDARD" shoulds nice ;)
[11:31] <microhaxo> eh
[11:31] <microhaxo> its an error common to the unreal engine
[11:45] <microhaxo> guys
[11:45] <microhaxo> how can i change this?
[11:45] <microhaxo> microhaxo@c-24-118-7-234:~$ fglrxinfo
[11:45] <microhaxo> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[11:56] <_matej> why kde 3.4.1 mirror dont works _