[02:49] <Guest4870> Does anyone know if the dhcp client in netplan is allowing dhcp option requests???
[02:55] <Guest4870> With dhclient and ifupdown, I could specify which options I wanted requested from the DHCP server.  These options would show up in /var/lib/dhcp/dhclent.leases, and I could parse them for specific purposes.  I have yet to find a way to get yaml configurations to allow me to request DHCP options, they certainly do not show up in
[02:55] <Guest4870> /run/systemd/netif/leases (or ../links).  If this functionality is not available in netplan or using network dispatcher, I see little choice but to revery to pre-netplan networking.  Am I missing something here?
[02:56] <Guest4870> Either no one is on, or no one knows, or no one cares.  I am at the end of my research abilities.
[09:39] <JanC> sounds more like you are not very patient...   :)
[09:44] <kjetilho> :-D


[13:20] <xnox> jibel, could i poke you about lp:qa-jenkins-jobs ?
[13:20] <jibel> xnox, sure
[13:20] <xnox> e.g. i'm browsing jenkins configs, and I don't see e.g. a job that pulls lp:qa-jenkins-jobs and actually deploys/updates them in jenkins. How is that done?
[13:21] <jibel> xnox, ah this is done manually because it needs secret keys that are not on the nodes
[13:21] <xnox> cause e.g. in jenkins-dsl, there is usually a "dsl" job that pulls git/bzr repo and generates the jobs. And all the generated jobs, have a link to "parent" generator job =) but i don't see it.
[13:21] <jibel> xnox, nuclearbob can help with this
[13:21] <jibel> he is not online yet though
[13:22] <xnox> jibel, horum. I thought the bzr branch is public. And e.g. secrets could be stored in jenkins secrets. Thus e.g. i'm not sure why jenkins couldn't be polling and redploying it's own jobs =)
[13:22]  * xnox does see a jenkin ssh key as a secret
[13:25] <jibel> xnox, to deploy the jobs you need the key of the jenkins api. But you're right, it could be done in a job
[13:25] <jibel> xnox, I'll ask Max when he's online
[13:25] <xnox> yeap, reading the docs it looks like they don't use jenkins to deploy jenkins-yaml/job-builder by default.
[13:26] <xnox> which is probably good, cause e.g. with jenkins-dsl one ends up having a "manually" entered job, to pull dsl configs, which then deploy everything, which is kind of ugly =)
[13:26] <xnox> ah =) i can have my own api token and deploy my own things.
[13:27] <xnox> i think i should bring up a local jenkins and test things there, instead of the production instance.
[13:39] <jibel> xnox, you can deploy test jobs with jjb on the production instance. We asked for a staging instance but it takes a while
[13:40] <jibel> xnox, as long as it's new jobs it's fine
[13:55] <xnox> jibel, well. if that jenkins is deployed with mojo+juju, we can redploy test instances in canonistack.
[13:55] <xnox> not sure if that would be useful at all, as it will not have access to any production slaves....
[14:52] <xnox> jibel, gave up on docker. trivially deployed jenkins, and trivially got api tocken to upload my jenkins jobs on to it. Now i just need to iterate, and create my jobs, then i'll deploy them to production jenkins or some such.
[14:54] <jibel> nuclearbob, ^ when xnox is ready can you help him with jjb to deploy his jobs in production?
[14:54] <nuclearbob> jibel: yeppers
[14:55] <nuclearbob> xnox: we have configs in lp:qa-jenkins-jobs that work with jenkins-job-builder if you want any help or examples with that
[14:55] <nuclearbob> xnox: I'm very happy with it as a tool for managing multiple jobs with common elements and linking them together
[14:56] <nuclearbob> xnox: also makes deploying the same jobs to dev/staging and then later production a trivial process
[14:56] <nuclearbob> but I suppose that's true of any good jenkins tool
[14:58] <xnox> yeap.
[14:58] <xnox> nuclearbob, i just might end up needing extra plugins, and/or extra tooling installed on the slaves =/
[14:58] <xnox> and i think that would fall outside of jjb and instead will need mojo/juju tweaks.
[14:58] <nuclearbob> xnox: for installing tooling on the slaves, I recommend creating a setup job, for when the slaves inevitably need to be rebuilt
[14:59] <nuclearbob> ah, yeah
[14:59] <nuclearbob> for plugins in jaas I go through rt
[14:59] <nuclearbob> but if you need mojo/juju stuff I'm only marginally helpful
[14:59] <nuclearbob> I haven't touched mojo in over a year
[14:59] <nuclearbob> better than nothing, but probably not as good as many other people around :)
[15:01] <xnox> nuclearbob, #is pointed me to the branch which has our jenkins configs et.al. So actually i could have deployed exact copy of our jenkins in e.g. canonistack =)
[15:01] <nuclearbob> xnox: oh, that's lovely. mojo and juju are pretty fantastic for replicating cloud deployments :)
[15:03] <xnox> anyway lunch for me =)


[09:07] <HiddenWolf> Keybuk, does that bootchart tell me y'all have managed to halve dapper boot times?
[09:07] <Keybuk> ish
[09:07] <Keybuk> certainly below 1m
[09:07] <infinity> Well, except for the part where there's no GDm there.
[09:08] <infinity> In fact, no runlevel 2 at all, if I'm not mistaken.
[09:09] <Keybuk> yeah, it's just rcS
[09:10] <HiddenWolf> ah
[09:10] <Keybuk> which has dropped from 55s to 39s
[09:12] <HiddenWolf> Hm, still amazing.
[09:13] <Keybuk> yeah, it's a start
[09:13] <Keybuk> there's probably another 10s or so in there
[09:13] <Keybuk> not loading framebuffer drivers should help a bit
[09:13] <Keybuk> and removing networking and pcmcia should too
[09:14] <HiddenWolf> It'd be sweet if things would only start if needed.
[09:14] <HiddenWolf> think hplib.
[09:14] <Keybuk> that starts after gdm
[09:14] <Keybuk> anything that starts after gdm isn't relevant
[09:14] <Keybuk> the game isn't time-until-end-of-rc2 ... but time-until-user-can-login
[09:15] <Keybuk> who cares if hplib and apache don't start until half way through their login?  they probably won't
[09:15] <Mithrandir> it should probably be "time until user logged in or system-fully-booted, whichever is longer"
[09:16] <Keybuk> no it shouldn't
[09:17] <Keybuk> I only care up to the point gdm's greeter comes up
[09:17] <Keybuk> after that iz gtk bug :)
[09:17] <Keybuk> Windows plays the same trick, it brings the greeter up as soon as it can while still booting -- it gives the perception of a fast boot

[09:19] <infinity> We need to see a useable GDM as soon as possible.
[09:19] <infinity> Anything beyond that is nice (we don't want to grind for 2 more minutes) but much less critical.
[09:20] <Keybuk> right
[09:20] <Keybuk> once gdm is up, it's all low-hanging
[09:21] <Mithrandir> Keybuk: I care about "machine usable and stuff working", not "shows me pretty junk"
[09:22] <Keybuk> define usable :)
[09:22] <Keybuk> your machine might not be usable until you plug in your pcmcia network card
[09:23] <Keybuk> and if we bootcharted the 5 minutes for you hunting through the crap on your desk, it'd be a loooong time
[09:23] <Keybuk> the best definition I can think of is that the user can do _something_
[09:23] <Keybuk> ie. get them a greeter or getty as soon as you can
[09:52] <HiddenWolf> Keybuk, how much do you think is realisticly what you can still shave off it?
 that much
[09:52] <HiddenWolf> hah, ok.
[09:53] <HiddenWolf> get me <---------> this much, and I'll extend an open invitation to free beer. ;)
[09:55] <Keybuk> beer is over-rated
[09:56] <Mithrandir> beer is good
[10:07] <HiddenWolf> Keybuk, apple-juice for you then. :)
[10:07] <HiddenWolf> Keybuk, with a straw. :)
[10:07] <Keybuk> vodka!
[10:11] <HiddenWolf> Keybuk, Would I have to carry you out in that case?
[10:39] <Keybuk> I'm feeling daring
[10:39] <Keybuk> let's see if I can get to X
[10:41] <Keybuk> cor
[10:41] <Keybuk> I can
[10:45] <Keybuk> I still want to know what that strange sh/run-parts thing is in rcS
[10:49] <Keybuk> ahhhh
[10:49] <Keybuk> it's in a modprobe-post-install rule
[11:10] <HiddenWolf> Keybuk, you're working without X?
[11:11] <Keybuk> I was
[11:11] <Keybuk> I have X now
[11:20] <Keybuk> Kamion: any alarm bells ringing if I suggest making /tmp and /var/run tmpfs?
[11:31] <Kamion> the main problem is partman doesn't know how to do that :P
[11:31] <Keybuk> why does partman need to know?
[11:31] <Kamion> because it sets up fstab ...
[11:31] <Keybuk> virtual filesystems are mounted long before fstab is around :)
[11:32] <Kamion> er
[11:32] <Keybuk> cf. our discussion about the futility of having /proc in there
[11:32] <Kamion> you mean admins don't get to choose? I don't think that's so good
[11:32] <Kamion> my server has problems with /tmp being tmpfs, because (a) various applications I can't be bothered to fix write lots of stuff in there, (b) it's too low on memory for all the stuff they want to write
[11:33] <Keybuk> hmm, I can see the argument for being able to choose /tmp
[11:33] <Kamion> /var/run's probably ok
[11:33] <Keybuk> /var/run is never large, it's just pid files and sockets
[11:33] <Keybuk> (and having it as a tmpfs would solve a major ordering issue I'm currently having <g>)
[11:33] <Kamion> but by the same token I don't see why we need to force it in initramfs either ... oh?
[11:33] <Keybuk> there's a bunch of rcS stuff to clean up /var/run before things are started
[11:34] <Keybuk> but I'd have to move that all into the initramfs in case udev starts the things now
[11:34] <Keybuk> rcS should increasingly become "things udev doesn't do"
[11:35] <Keybuk> I'll have a think and a play with some different ideas, see which works best and doesn't break anything
[11:35] <Kamion> ah, hm
[11:36] <Keybuk> also having it as a tmpfs actually means we can start networking before the real filesystem, which is a current snag
[11:36] <Kamion> we'd have to make sure everything works with /var/run as a tmpfs; IIRC there were a few broken packages that installed files there in .debs or in the postinst
[11:36] <Keybuk> /etc/network/run would become /var/run/network, and all would be happy
[11:36] <Keybuk> Kamion: yeah, I checked main for them, and couldn't immediately see any -- have to check postinst yet though
[11:38] <Keybuk> at the moment I have the problem:
[11:38] <Keybuk> udevplug finds network card
[11:38] <Keybuk> udevd calls ifup
[11:38] <Keybuk> ifup can't write to /etc/network/run/ifstate
[11:38] <Keybuk>  (time passes)
[11:38] <Keybuk> root filesystem gets checked and mounted rw
[11:41] <Keybuk> and, of course, if you swap the two... you get
[11:42] <Keybuk> root filesystem can't be chcked because /dev/hda1 doesn't exist
[11:42] <Keybuk> root filesystem remounted rw, and evil error gets shown
[11:42] <Keybuk> udevplug finds block device
[11:42] <Keybuk> udevd creates /dev/hda1
[11:42] <Keybuk> :)
[12:00] <Keybuk> heh
[12:00] <Kamion> I should probably start running around debian-installer preparing stuff for .15
[12:00] <Keybuk> I haven't even started the udev udeb stuff yet :-/
[12:01] <Keybuk> it's just a udeb with a bunch of binaries in
[12:01] <Kamion> <cjwatson@cairhien ~/src/ubuntu/debian-installer/debian-installer-20051026ubuntu3/build>$ wcgrep pcmcia-cs-udeb pkg-lists | wc -l
[12:01] <Kamion> 21
[12:01] <Kamion> joy
[12:01] <Kamion> just try not to emulate Marco's trick of continually leaving stuff out of the udeb
[12:01] <Keybuk> lol
[12:01] <Keybuk> I guess I'll have to modify hw-detect too
[12:01] <Kamion> hm? what for?
[12:01] <Kamion> oh, udevplug
[12:01] <Keybuk> to make it call the right bits of udev
[12:02] <Kamion> I was planning to move that into rootskel, I'm fed up with running around modifying a billion different pieces
[12:02] <Kamion> tell me what's needed and I'll get it incorporated in the right place
[12:02] <Kamion> just run udevplug?
[12:02] <Keybuk> let me upload our new very-simple udev.init for you, so you can see
[12:03] <Kamion> for udev.init, the plan is for udev-udeb to ship /lib/debian-installer-startup.d/S02udev with whatever it needs to do
[12:03] <Keybuk> http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/udev.init
[12:03] <Keybuk> basically it's
[12:03] <Keybuk> mount /dev
[12:03] <Keybuk> udevd
[12:04] <Keybuk> cp /lib/udev/devices into /dev
[12:04] <Mithrandir> Keybuk: do you want the udeb bits for bootchart submitted, or should I just upload them?
[12:04] <Keybuk> uidevplug
[12:04] <Keybuk> Mithrandir: just upload them, if they don't touch the ordinary boot stuff
[12:04] <Mithrandir> ok
[12:04] <Mithrandir> they don't.  Or shouldn't, at least.
[12:04] <Kamion> Keybuk: take the start bit of that and make it /lib/debian-installer-startup.d/S02udev
[12:05] <Keybuk> ok, that's easy enough then -- without the initramfs stuff, I guess?
[12:05] <Keybuk> can I guarantee that the installer would have 2.6.15 so skip the "abort!abort!abort!" bit?
[12:05] <Kamion> you won't be in initramfs
[12:05] <Keybuk> ok
[12:06] <Kamion> hm, no, best have the error check, stuff is confusing enough at that stage
[12:06] <Keybuk> that's not "in initramfs", there's a check there to make sure that initramfs didn't run on a non-2.6.15 kernel
[12:06] <Keybuk> right
[12:06] <Kamion> well, let me rephrase that. you won't be in initramfs FOR NOW
[12:06] <Keybuk> lol
[12:06] <Kamion> that might change later, but if it does, it'll be initramfs for the whole installer
[12:06] <Keybuk> *blink*
[12:07] <Keybuk> is that "install a system, then exec run-init when done" ? :p
[12:07] <Kamion> nah, just initramfs as an initrd replacement
[12:07] <Keybuk> oh right
[12:07] <Kamion> although I suppose you could :)
[12:07] <Keybuk> thought you had the entire installer in an initramfs there
[12:07] <Keybuk> which would be kinda cute
[12:08] <Keybuk> it's /technically/ "only mounting the root filesystem" ... with the added bonus of making one first
[12:08] <Keybuk> great for kiosk mode ... they reinstall themselves when they reboot
[12:08] <Kamion> network configuration would be amusing
[12:08] <Kamion> it'd be a bit like tccboot, only more so, especially if you did a gentoo version
[12:08] <Keybuk> you know it'd rock
[12:09] <Keybuk> gentubuntu
[12:10] <Keybuk> I bet jbailey would like it
[12:10] <Keybuk> I swear he wants X in the initramfs
[12:11] <Mithrandir> that'd make X start early enough in the boot, at least.
[12:11] <Mithrandir> can tcc be used to bootstrap gcc?
[12:13] <Keybuk> Google says yeah ... *cough*
[12:15] <Keybuk> OMG THIS NEW-FANGLED-SHINY-INIT VIOLATES POLICY! SEVERITY SHALLOW-GRAVE!
[12:15] <Keybuk> "oh, wait, it's sysv-rc ... uh, maybe it's policy's fault"
[12:19] <Kamion> jbailey: please remove that zoneinfo-udeb patch I did from glibc at your next convenience; the installer no longer needs it
[12:20] <Kamion> or tell me and I'll do it
[12:28] <Keybuk> Kamion: do you know what kind of /dev rules we want for d-i?
[12:29] <Keybuk> I guess we want the default naming rules, but do we also want things like /dev/disk/by-* ?
[12:29] <Kamion> default + devfs-compat
[12:29] <Kamion> not sure about /dev/disk/by-*
[12:29] <Kamion> probably not for now
[12:29] <Kamion> we can add them when we come up with a good reason
[12:32] <Keybuk> ugh, I'll have to rewrite devfs-compat *cry*
[12:33] <Keybuk> the old rules flat-out don't work anymore
[12:35] <Kamion> I believe Debian's d-i works when built with udev, so probably ...
[12:35] <Kamion> well, networking is apparently broken, haven't investigated for myself yet
[12:36] <Mithrandir> we could just rip out all the devfs names and use the old ones again.
[12:38] <Kamion> I'm not going for that degree of forkage from Debian
[12:38] <Kamion> there should be an abstraction layer
[12:38] <Kamion> that can go into Debian
[12:38] <Mithrandir> isn't debian going to go with udev soonish?
[12:38] <Kamion> yes but 2.4 will still be supported for a while
[12:39] <Mithrandir> hm, ok
[12:39] <Mithrandir> as in "for etch"?
[12:39] <Kamion> dunno
[12:39] <Keybuk> the problem is that the devfs names are about as reliable as daniels
[12:39] <Kamion> there are parts of d-i that still rely on walking /dev/discs to get at the list of disks on the system
[12:39] <Kamion> those need to be fixed to use parted/libparted
[12:40] <Kamion> but for now it's not just a trivial sed job to change them]
[12:40] <Kamion> and Linux paths have changed around so much in the last three years that I have zero belief that they won't change again, so having an abstraction layer in between d-i code and device paths is good for us anyway
[12:45] <Keybuk> yeah
[12:45] <Keybuk> Linux paths are now totally non-fixed
[12:45] <Keybuk> it's up to the distro/app to pick them
[12:45] <Keybuk> the trouble with the devfs paths is that they're a bit racey
[12:45] <Keybuk> when devfs was around, it was easy, because the kernel could keep track of the enum with a BKL around it
[12:46] <Keybuk> but in userspace, we've no idea how to make a number that truly counts the number of (e.g.) cdroms
[12:46] <Keybuk> so with udev, you end up with /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /dev/cdroms/cdrom4 /dev/cdroms/cdrom9
[12:46] <Keybuk> which makes most things (including hw-detect) sulk
[12:46] <Keybuk> or, worse, you end up with two things trying to be /dev/cdroms/cdrom2
[12:47] <Kamion> right, I'm happy to move for special cases where it really bites us, but I don't want to commit to doing so for everything
[12:47] <Mithrandir> as long as you can find all the cd-roms in the system, that's not a problem, really.
[12:47] <Kamion> and for those, I'd rather make the code fall back to devfs paths so that I can keep in sync with Debian
[12:48] <Keybuk> heh
[12:48] <Keybuk> annoyingly there isn't a way to do that anyway
[12:48] <Keybuk> none of the buses expose the media type in /sys
[12:49] <Keybuk> and then you have SATA, which is fucked
[12:49] <Keybuk> IDE devices appear as SCSI generic devices
[12:49] <Keybuk> so they don't show up in /proc/ide .. and you can't use the device name to decide what it is
[12:49] <Keybuk> which is why d-i doesn't work on Acer laptops
[12:49] <Keybuk> (amongst other things)
[12:51] <Mithrandir> vendor for my SATA stuff seems to be set to ATA..
[12:51] <Mithrandir> no idea if that can be used for something
[12:51] <Keybuk> dunno, I'll play with that more when quest arrives I guess
[12:52] <Mithrandir> which quest is that named after?
[12:52] <Keybuk> all of them
[12:52] <Keybuk> I've not thought of a better name yet
[01:07] <jbailey> Keybuk: Wha?
[01:07] <jbailey> Keybuk: What would I do with X in the initramfs?
[01:07] <jbailey> Kamion: Thanks!
[01:08] <Keybuk> jbailey: like the idea


[21:26] <guntbert> cosmodad: now, if I only remembered the units used by fsck ;)
[21:26] <fontpeg> I am having a problem with my Atheros wireless card in my acer 5720z laptop; it shows the driver in the list but the network icon does not have any kind of wireless option at all, can anyone help? screanshot: http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6277/imageg.jpg
[21:26] <Quontrex_Ashimi> presshere_: lspci shows my intel corporation 82557/8/9/0/1 ethernet pro (rev 09) but it doesnt initialize? ideas? I can get to the usb now to install a driver if you have ideas how to do that
[21:26] <vigo> marquinos: Type some stuff, then use Babelfish -AltaVista to test it.
[21:26] <cosmodad> guntbert: I guess it's 512 byte blocks. Still, I think the figure reported by fsck is only the 5.5%.
[21:26] <marquinos> vigo, ????
[21:27] <marquinos> vigo, The translations is finished, but we like review
[21:27] <marquinos> ;)
[21:27] <presshere_> Milkeh: please explain me, in steps, how had you installed vmware
[21:27] <cosmodad> guntbert: I better double-check that in the man-page...
[21:27] <guntbert> cosmodad: no, the 5.5% is fragmentation
[21:27] <pureRadiance> wheres the grub loader located?
[21:27] <vigo> marquinos: Do you know what Babel Fish is?
[21:27] <marquinos> I did search in Google
[21:27] <McAbsent> T235o Core Duo -notebook, i cannot make ubuntu run, it freezes after a few seconds, says something like "cpu0 throttling is 8", windows xp sp3 works fine, but i dont want windows, i want linux!!!
[21:27] <marquinos> but I didn't find any help
[21:27] <sebsebseb> pureRadiance:  /boot/grub
[21:27] <mamaro> any ideas? I am trying to get my tv tuner working, ubuntu wants it located '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' but there is nothing there, I am able to see my tuner using lsusb -v
[21:27] <marquinos> vigo, Babel Fish is an online translator, isn't?
[21:27] <pureRadiance> sebsebseb: is it grub.conf?
[21:28] <vigo> marquinos: Yes it is, it is on alta vista
[21:28] <sebsebseb> pureRadiance: what do you want to do?
[21:28] <Seveas> Ape, do you happen to have a ~/.local/share/applications/compiz-switch.desktop?
[21:28] <marquinos> vigo: the translation is do it!
[21:28] <marquinos> ;)
[21:28] <McAbsent> i have also, problems with the DVD Ram, is called the "Matshita 800 series issue", is there a way to install linux over the net?
[21:28] <marquinos> I don't need the translator
[21:28] <guntbert> cosmodad: you can always use -v for verbosity
[21:28] <Ape> Seveas: "No such file or directory"
[21:28] <pureRadiance> sebsebseb: edit default and grub image
[21:28] <marquinos> I need check the translations from Launchpad
[21:28] <CyberSurfer> Can anyone tell me a good torrent client excluding transmission?
[21:28] <sebsebseb> pureRadiance: yeah have a look in that folder
[21:28] <Seveas> Ape, or anything with a similar filename in that directory?
[21:29] <sebsebseb> CyberSurfer: Ktorrent
[21:29] <pureRadiance> sebsebseb: danke
[21:29] <vigo> marquinos: I thought you were asking for a translation checker, that is about the best I know
[21:29] <Ape> Seveas: I can't find anything for compiz-switch
[21:29] <Daniel_G> i have an application located in /usr/local/bin, but when i run the command for the app it comes back with "No such file or directory", since it seems to be looking in /usr/bin for the app, how do i change where it looks?
[21:29] <CyberSurfer> Thanks
[21:29] <Kultom> CyberSurfer, Deluge
[21:29] <Seveas> Ape, it is possible to edit the menus (rightclick on applications, select edit menus), I think compiz-switch was once moved. Terminator is right where it should be
[21:29] <Ape> Seveas: But I can spot some other applications
[21:29] <marquinos> vigo: My language isn't in Altavista ;)
[21:29] <marquinos> or Google :(
[21:29] <McAbsent> this is frustrating
[21:29] <CyberSurfer> Thanks
[21:30] <Seveas> Ape, I just don't know where that menu editor stores it changes, I thought it was in the .desktop files in .local/share :)
[21:30] <haz_> Hey guys, how do you think what's the best firewall for ubuntu?
[21:30] <Ape> Seveas: I can edit and I have moved some applications. For sure I haven't move compiz-switch
[21:30] <vigo> marquinos: Launch two browsers, copy and ,,oh wait, what language?
[21:30] <guntbert> cosmodad: did you use -f ?
[21:30] <marquinos> asturian language
[21:30] <marquinos> vigo
[21:30] <duelboot> haz_, I like firestarter, but there are plenty of others
[21:30] <marquinos> vigo: asturian language
[21:30] <cosmodad> guntbert: yeah the file-check was done.
[21:30] <sebsebseb> haz_: a hardware firewall
[21:30] <cosmodad> guntbert: -v doesn't output any more.
[21:30] <haz_> yeah the first one that googled was firestarter
[21:30] <haz_> :)
[21:31] <Seveas> Ape, ah! ~/.config/menus
[21:31] <cosmodad> guntbert: Google indicates that fsck uses the file-system's blocksize. How'd I figure that out again?
[21:31] <sebsebseb> haz_: hardware firewall the best for any OS
[21:31] <sebsebseb> haz_: if you have a router you probably have as part of your router
[21:31] <duelboot> haz_, there's another...something like gufw that I read about that seems useful as well
[21:31] <Seveas> Ape, I think that if you move that folder out of the way and reload the panel, it'll be fixed
[21:31] <anabolix> hey guys anyone know a good terminal based mail client i can use? something i can access gmail and hotmail with if that is possible?
[21:31] <sebsebseb> !firewall
[21:31] <duelboot> haz_, or you could just read the 1000 page book on iptables
[21:31] <haz_> :D
[21:31] <fontpeg> I am having a problem with my Atheros wireless card in my acer 5720z laptop; it shows the driver in the list but the network icon does not have any kind of wireless option at all, can anyone help? screanshot: http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6277/imageg.jpg
[21:31] <Ape> Seveas: I try to rename the folder
[21:31] <haz_> yeah i have a router
[21:32] <sebsebseb> haz_: well then turn your hardware firewall on if it's not already
[21:32] <Milkeh> presshere_, sorry was brushing my teeth, I downloaded the official .rpm file, I converted it to a .deb file with alien and installed it.
[21:32] <pureRadiance> sebsebseb: Do you know what image editor can handle TGA image files so I can make an image for the grub?
[21:32] <sebsebseb> pureRadiance: no, but you can get Kubuntu Grub images
[21:32] <Milkeh> presshere_, with Geedebi package intstaller
[21:32] <duelboot> sebsebseb, haz_, I use both...yes redundant, but I care about internal traffic as well
[21:32] <pureRadiance> sebsebseb: hate to be a pain...but whats the best place that you know of?
[21:33] <vigo> marquinos: Will Dutch work?
[21:33] <sebsebseb> pureRadiance: best place I know of?
[21:33] <marquinos> vigo: how?
[21:33] <Ape> Seveas: That worked, but it also removed my custom settings. I don't want to show up some entries on the list.
[21:33] <mamaro> I am trying to get my tv tuner working, ubuntu wants it located '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' but there is nothing there, I am able to see my tuner using lsusb -v. what step am i missing?
[21:33] <marquinos> vigo: I like download the Launchpad translations and check it all is fine ;)
[21:33] <vigo> marquinos: Dutch to English
[21:33] <guntbert> cosmodad: I remember something, try to get my thoughts together
[21:33] <haz_> Well i need one with a simple logger, so i can monitor connections
[21:33] <Ape> Seveas: Some application I never use, but that I want to keep installed
[21:33] <cosmodad> guntbert: same here...
[21:33] <shadeslayer> hi,how do i change the image of the loading bar which comes in the beginning to ubuntu from Kubuntu??
[21:33] <marquinos> vigo: I don't undertand why I need Duch to English
[21:34] <kristian1> how do i get flash via apt-get?
[21:34] <vigo> marquinos: Just trying to assist...
[21:34] <BlueEagle> !flash | kristian1
[21:34] <Seveas> Ape, you can either put the folder back and move compiz-switch to its place or simply hide that app again :)
[21:34] <keeees> hey guys!
[21:34] <marquinos> vigo: ;)
[21:34] <Flyover> hey is the peson ere i was talking to last time lol fogot the name
[21:34] <Ape> Seveas: If I edit something, will this bug appear again?
[21:35] <presshere_> Milkeh: maybe is best to choice virtualbox, thats what i use and it works fine ;)
[21:35] <keeees> i'm using 8.10 server :)
[21:35] <xaviur> i'm running 64-bit ubuntu but need to install a 32-bit app, whats the command to get the required libraries?
[21:35] <Royall> There was an error in my Jaunty update! I rebooted, now there's about a million unseen windows on the panel
[21:35] <TheNumber> Hi Minna San :)
[21:35] <shadeslayer> hi,how do i change the image of the loading bar which comes in the beginning to ubuntu from Kubuntu??
[21:35] <Seveas> Ape, I hope not
[21:35] <Seveas> if it does, please file it
[21:35] <cosmodad> guntbert: dumpe2fs ...
[21:35] <sebsebseb> !app
[21:35] <sebsebseb> !32bit
[21:35] <keeees> anyone use IRCii, it's so sexy!
[21:35] <BlueEagle> !bot | sebsebseb
[21:36] <kristian1> BlueEagle : thanks.
[21:36] <BlueEagle> kristian1: You're welcome.
[21:36] <sebsebseb> !botabuse |  BlueEagle
[21:36] <xaviur> i'm running 64-bit ubuntu but need to install a 32-bit app, whats the command to get the required libraries?
[21:36] <keeees> hi blueeagle :D
[21:36] <BlueEagle> sebsebseb: Yeah, that was the one I was looking for.
[21:36] <shadeslayer> hi,how do i change the image of the loading bar which comes in the beginning to ubuntu from Kubuntu??
[21:36] <vigo> DOS?
[21:36] <duelboot> shadeslayer, wish I knew...happened to me once...didn't spend enough time to figure it out...it went away next time I did a fresh install though :)
[21:37] <ajeqwer> omg omg help I have lost ext3 partition after trying to install win 98!!
[21:37] <rvn> there's a  bug in the HAL of ubuntu that hasn't been addressed and has been lurking around since 2006, and now it is affecting me in 2009...
[21:37] <guntbert> cosmodad: *that* delivers a lot...
[21:37] <rvn> ubuntu does not detect printers that are attached to a usb parallel port
[21:37] <rvn> i.e., centronix->usb cable
[21:37] <xaviur> anyone know if there's a 64-bit version of sheepshaver in .deb flavor?!!
[21:37] <rvn> it just detects the cable
[21:37] <BlueEagle> shadeslayer: If you install kubuntu-desktop before ubuntu-desktop you may be stuck with the kubuntu splash. Not sure how to fix that, sorry.
[21:37] <google33> hi keeees
[21:38] <cwillu> shadeslayer, I know there's an easier/more direct way to do it, but removing kubuntu-splash and reinstalling ubuntu-splash  (trying to remember the actual package names, but that's the gist of it)
[21:38] <cosmodad> guntbert: grep -i 'block size' yields 4K
[21:38] <ajeqwer> anyone does know how to restore data from lost ext3 partition ???
[21:39] <cwillu> !info uplash-theme-ubuntu | shadeslayer
[21:39] <xaviur> is there anyone here good at compiling ?
[21:39] <BlueEagle> ajeqwer: fsck and look in lost+found
[21:39] <duelboot> ajeqwer, try a rescue or live disk...mount it, then move the info
[21:39] <cwillu> ajeqwer, if you installed windows after, you probably just need to recover grub
[21:39] <shadeslayer> nm
[21:39] <skx> I am editing gnome menu with alacarte and it's a pain -- changes can take seconds to effect, I can't move more than one object and everytime I do focus is shifted to the folder where is was moved. Is there any better editor? Or is there a way to make alacarte behave more reasonable?
[21:39] <cwillu> !grub | ajeqwer
[21:39] <shadeslayer> i found how to change ir
[21:39] <Zak28> somoen know how to remove network panel icon ?
[21:39] <xaviur> is there an app that can convert rpg to .deb?
[21:40] <xaviur> err rpm
[21:40] <cosmodad> guntbert: ok so blocksize * 4096 / 1024^3 results in ~10 GB, the number given by df -h.
[21:40] <cwillu> !info usplash-theme-ubuntu | shadeslayer
[21:40] <dotsign> hello every one]
[21:40] <whabo> http://pastebin.com/m1b04f568 help me anyone????
[21:40] <cwillu> xaviur, yes, although you don't really want to do that unless you have no choice at all
[21:40] <dotsign> hello i need messenger for ubuntu
[21:40] <haz_> Hey guys, having a bit a problem, ubuntu can't recognize my root password in the terminal, but whenever a window pops up he accepts the password... WTF?
[21:41] <duelboot> dotsign, pidgin and others will get you there
[21:41] <xaviur> cwillu: i need a 64-bit version of sheepshaver
[21:41] <Zak28> u have to create it first
[21:41] <sebsebseb> dotsign: Windows Live Messenger does not run  in Wine, well it might, but run really bad, however good alternatives to it
[21:41] <guntbert> cosmodad: anyway: what I'm getting at is: it looks as if your file system is smaller than your partition, then you could try to resize the FS with sudo resize2fs /dev/sda6, to use the whole partition
[21:41] <Zak28> create root password in users and groups
[21:41] <duelboot> haz_, are you sure it's "root" password or yours...by default there is no root password, but it can be enabled later
[21:41] <cosmodad> guntbert: how dangerous is that resize operation?
[21:42] <duelboot> haz_, sudo -s in terminal and you can get root
[21:42] <cwillu> cosmodad, no more dangerous than defragging
[21:42] <Milkeh> presshere_, Package 'vmware-workstation_6.5.1-126131_i386.deb' was installed
[21:43] <cwillu> xaviur, I'm only seeing macosx when I search for that
[21:43] <haz_> oh... s2pid me :)
[21:43] <presshere_> Milkeh: and it works?
[21:43] <cosmodad> cwillu: so invoking it without parameters (to enlarge to partition file size according to the man-page) should *not* yield havoc?
[21:43] <xaviur> cwillu: there's a 32-bit version in .deb format
[21:43] <presshere_> Milkeh: can you find vmware in Applications?
[21:43] <haz_> just got out of Windows...
[21:43] <cwillu> cosmodad, you're on a livecd?
[21:43] <haz_> :)
[21:43] <cwillu> xaviur, link?
[21:43] <ajeqwer> BlueEagle, duelboot, duelboot. I lost /dev/sda1 main ext3 partition with ubuntu and much data.... other partition intact. I tried to install win98, but win98 failed to install... after reboot I found that I lost OS partition... Now in live mode I run gparted and /dev/sda1 has been converted to fat16 but in gparted I can see percent of used space and free space on partition but when I mount there is nothing. I tried to fix partition from gparted using check
[21:44] <guntbert> cosmodad: it asks you to fsck first, you would fsck afterwards - I did it recently for I switched to LVM and so had to move things around a bit, this is not windows, I regard it as not dangerous
[21:44] <cwillu> cosmodad, from a livecd, might be easier just to use gparted
[21:44] <cosmodad> cwillu: right now, I'm in single-user mode (or however it's called) with the / partition umounted.
[21:44] <xaviur> cwillu: i pm'd you the link
[21:45] <duelboot> ajeqwer, no help here...sorry
[21:45] <xaviur> cwillu: probably if i just had the 32-bit libraries i could just install it that way, but i don't remember the command for that
[21:45] <Milkeh> presshere_, nothing, http://paste.ubuntu.com/122585/
[21:45] <guntbert> cwillu: the problem of cosmodad seems to be that his FS is only half of the partition
[21:45] <Royall_> Aug
[21:45] <ajeqwer> duelboot, no problem thanx for trying to help
[21:46] <Royall_> Whenever I boot Ubuntu Jaunty after intall
[21:46] <Royall_> install
[21:46] <Royall_> I get windows opening
[21:46] <Royall_> constantly
[21:46] <Royall_> like, 4per second
[21:46] <Royall_> all in my panel, not visib;e
[21:46] <cwillu> cosmodad, if you have a livecd around, you can just boot off that, and resize the partition graphically -> system | administration | gnome partition editor
[21:46] <Myrtti> !jaunty | Royall_
[21:46] <sebsebseb> Royall_: Jaunty is a bug release not been released yet
[21:46] <dotsign> i need to run any messenger anyone have idea for that ??????
[21:47] <sebsebseb> dotsign: AMSN and Kmess are good for MSN
[21:47] <presshere_> Milkeh: there is a problem in installatio, there is no full data for vmware...no /bin files
[21:47] <duelboot> dotsign, pidgin as well
[21:47] <cosmodad> cwillu: unfortunately, I don't, and my CD burner just broke last week. I guess I can't do this from an unmounted / FS...
[21:47] <mikewu> dotsign: try pidgin
[21:47] <fearful> dotsign, Pidgin also
[21:47] <cosmodad> cwillu: (in recovery mode)
[21:47] <sebsebseb> dotsign: Pidgin is good for MSN as well, if you don't mind not having  certain features such as web cam and winks  and customied emotions
[21:47] <cwillu> cosmodad, you probably can, I just hate to see people mucking with terminals when they clearly don't want to be :)
[21:47] <xaviur> cwillu: you get the link?
[21:47] <Quontrex_Ashimi> presshere_: I found the problem, for some reason udev was changing eth0 to eth1 add the auto eth1 to /etc/network/interfaces fixed it
[21:47] <cwillu> xaviur, https://launchpad.net/~mdeslaur/+archive/ppa might Just Work
[21:47] <guntbert> cosmodad: may I leave you with cwillu ? I'm a bit past bedtime already :)
[21:47] <dotsign> what is pidgin
[21:47] <fearful> sebsebseb, customized emotions do work.
[21:48] <cosmodad> guntbert: no prob, thanks a lot for helping.
[21:48] <sebsebseb> fearful: reciving them, but not sending
[21:48] <dotsign> im new user for ubuntu
[21:48] <anabolix> anyone... a good terminal based email client?
[21:48] <Milkeh> presshere_, oh, could is possibly be when I converted?
[21:48] <guntbert> cosmodad: good luck
[21:48] <cwillu> guntbert, ugh, I'm like 30 seconds away from my walk :(
[21:48] <presshere_> Quontrex_Ashimi: well done ;)
[21:48] <fearful> sebsebseb, sure they do, right click save them and it works fine I use them all the time.
[21:48] <^MadDog^> ubuntu < debian || 6.10 > 3.1
[21:48] <duelboot> dotsign, I like kopete
[21:48] <cosmodad> cwillu: I'll be fine with the terminal. Just wondering where Ubuntu is going to read the resize2fs binary from without a mounted FS.
[21:48] <mikewu> anabolix:  try mutt or pine
[21:48] <presshere_> Milkeh: maybe
[21:48] <shadeslayer> how do i install a .so file??
[21:48] <xaviur> cwillu: do i have to compile that?
[21:48] <Milkeh> presshere_, I'll try converting again
[21:48] <fearful> dotsign, Pidgin is a messenger which you can connect different client such as MSN, AIM, icq and many others.
[21:49] <Milkeh> could it possibly be some kind of scripts?
[21:49] <guntbert> cosmodad: thats why we suggested a live CD
[21:49] <duelboot> shadeslayer, .so is a softlink or symbolic link...depending on who you ask...you don't install it
[21:49] <Milkeh> presshere_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/122585/
[21:49] <presshere_> !iso | shadeslayer
[21:49] <shadeslayer> its a splash image im trying to install as a replacement
[21:49] <cosmodad> guntbert: I'd have a better feeling with that.
[21:49] <cwillu> cosmodad, although this is possible, there is potential for screwups that would lose data
[21:49] <shadeslayer> presshere_: lol,SO not ISO
[21:49] <cwillu> cosmodad, namely, you have to resize the partition table first, and then resize the actual contents into the resulting space
[21:49] <shadeslayer> duelboot: its a splash image,like ubuntu loading bar
[21:50] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm having trouble figuring out remote desktop viewing. I'm reading comments on pages about it, but they never explain whether the port forwarding is supposed to be on the client or server machine.
[21:50] <cwillu> cosmodad, doing things in the wrong order, or with numbers that don't match up on each phase, can leave you in a bad state
[21:50] <presshere_> shadeslayer: sry ;)
[21:50] <cwillu> cosmodad, you're running intrepid?
[21:50] <cosmodad> cwillu: the affected machine is still running Gutsy.
[21:50] <presshere_> Milkeh: it`s the same paste?
[21:50] <duelboot> shadeslayer, haven't messed with that, but presume you need to put the .so in a specific location that it's looking for the file (the .so will reference the "real"/hard file used)
[21:50] <cwillu> cosmodad, do you have an intrepid machine handy?
[21:51] <Milkeh> presshere_, huh?
[21:51] <hotbabvy1> hey
[21:51] <hotbabvy1> http://www.freeos.com/articles/2677/
[21:51] <shadeslayer> duelboot: actually i have put it in a specific place
[21:51] <hotbabvy1> i wrote the above code
[21:51] <FloodBot3> hotbabvy1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:51] <cwillu> xaviur, it's a ppa
[21:51] <cosmodad> cwillu: just hardy.
[21:51] <cwillu> !ppa | xaviur
[21:51] <hotbabvy1> i followed step 1 to 5 in the following link
[21:51] <hotbabvy1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[21:51] <shadeslayer> duelboot: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/02/20/restoring-the-ubuntu-usplash-after-a-kubuntu-install/
[21:51] <cosmodad> cwillu: what do you recommend Intrepid for?
[21:51] <hotbabvy1> somehow that code doesnt' compile
[21:51] <hotbabvy1> help
[21:51] <xaviur> cwillu: i have no idea how to compile this heeh
[21:52] <duelboot> shadeslayer, give me time to read it...hold one
[21:52] <xaviur> cwillu: was hoping for a .deb file
[21:52] <cwillu> cosmodad, was just wondering, as intrepid has a really easy way to make a bootable usb live-thumbdrive, which you could then use to resize it with gparted in a sane way :)
[21:52] <foreiner> ammmm
[21:52] <cwillu> !ppa | xaviur
[21:52] <foreiner> i am new at ubunto
[21:52] <cwillu> xaviur, read that link
[21:52] <hotbabvy1> http://www.freeos.com/articles/2677/  << i want this to compile
[21:52] <foreiner> actually in linux system
[21:52] <foreiner> what advise
[21:52] <foreiner> for me
[21:52] <foreiner> :)
[21:52] <badfish69> does ubuntu have any tools to turn a jpg image into a video lasting x seconds?
[21:52] <cwillu> xaviur:  https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart
[21:52] <shadeslayer> duelboot: sure np
[21:53] <duelboot> shadeslayer, did you copy the command in total?  It should have prompted a question...if you did, then I'm out of suggestions
[21:53] <BattleStarJesus> I am having trouble using the program Synfig Studio.  When I try to start it I fails.  I ran it in a termainal.  I posted the out put here http://paste.ubuntu.com/122563/ Do any of you have suggestions how I can resolve this problem?
[21:53] <hotbabvy1> http://www.freeos.com/articles/2677/  << i want this to compile
[21:53] <hotbabvy1> help
[21:53] <cosmodad> cwillu: Too bad I haven't updated either of my two machines to Intrepid. I guess I'll just wait for the next CD recording opportunity to burn a live CD.
[21:53] <shadeslayer> duelboot: yes
[21:53] <dino__> hola
[21:53] <dino__> alguien habla español
[21:53] <Pici> !es | dino__
[21:54] <shadeslayer> duelboot: but the specific so im trying to install was not shown
[21:54] <foreiner> does ubuntu has rm convert to mp3
[21:54] <BattleStarJesus> Hello to you all.
[21:54] <foreiner> hello
[21:54] <cwillu> cosmodad, if I were desperate myself, one in theory do alot of this from an initrd image (basically, the filesystem that gets mounted before the actual drive gets mounted;  it operates from memory once read, so you can mess around with the drive;  the problem being that if you screw up, the initrd image probably won't be readable the next boot :p)
[21:54] <duelboot> shadeslayer, type "sudo update-alternatives –config usplash-artwork" and see what happens
[21:54] <cwillu> cosmodad, you can do it from the older versions, I just don't have the instructions handy
[21:55] <cosmodad> cwillu: do the USB thingie you mean?
[21:55] <cosmodad> cwillu: (from the older versions)
[21:55] <cwillu> cosmodad, yes
[21:55] <duelboot> shadeslayer, actually do this:   apt-get install - -reinstall usplash
[21:55] <cosmodad> cwillu: I'll try to look that up.
[21:55] <cosmodad> cwillu: let me ask you this: Why would I need to relarge the partition table, and how'd I do that? Is that operation automatically included with the resize2fs command, or is it external?
[21:55] <cwillu> cosmodad, I'd be really cautious about mucking around with the root partition without having some way of booting into it if things go bad
[21:56] <BattleStarJesus> Hello I have a gtk error it goes like this Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated
[21:56] <cwillu> cosmodad, resize2fs is an example of a typical unix approach:  it's a simple tool to do exactly one thing, and do it well
[21:56] <BattleStarJesus> How do I fix it?
[21:56] <shadeslayer> moment
[21:56] <cwillu> cosmodad, that way, it can be used on all sorts of usecases, without having any assumptions that it's working on an actual physical device
[21:57] <ukd1> hi guys, I'm using ubuntu hardy with the nvidia drivers (both the stock and lastest from nvidia.com) and I get strange "pink / purple" artifacts on the screen...any ideas?
[21:57] <cwillu> cosmodad, i.e., running a filesystem on a bare unpartitioned drive, or vm's, or so forth
[21:57] <hotbabvy1> http://www.freeos.com/articles/2677/  << i want this to compile
[21:57] <cwillu> cosmodad, fdisk et al is the other half, of actually editing just the partition tables without affecting anything else about what's on the partitions
[21:57] <hotbabvy1> can't compile it
[21:57] <hotbabvy1> help
[21:58] <shadeslayer> duelboot: done,found this too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=574314
[21:58] <cwillu> cosmodad, gnome-partition-editor is the user friendly happy face that makes the whole thing just work :p
[21:58] <shadeslayer> duelboot: what next XD
[21:58] <cosmodad> cwillu: one more reason to go for the Live CD I suppose.
[21:58] <cwillu> cosmodad, or the usb, but ya
[21:58] <hotbabvy1> http://www.freeos.com/articles/2677/  << i want this to compile
[21:58] <hotbabvy1> can't compile it
[21:58] <duelboot> shadeslayer, I give up :(
[21:58] <hotbabvy1> help
[21:58] <ukd1> has anyone had any experience of strange pink artifacts on screen when using the nvidia drivers?
[21:59] <cwillu> cosmodad, if you're comfortable with hardware, you could just pop the drive out of the one machine and stick it into the other one, resize it with gparted (gnome-partition-editor), and then put it back
[21:59] <shadeslayer> :(
[21:59] <cwillu> cosmodad, hardy, gutsy, etc are compatible as far as that process would be concerned
[21:59] <andre> hello guys
[21:59] <cosmodad> cwillu: urks, this laptop doesn't give its hardware out easily.
[21:59] <Jufis> any facebook applications for ubuntu?
[21:59] <deamoon> hi
[21:59] <cwillu> cosmodad, ah, laptop, eh?
[22:00] <cosmodad> cwillu: yeah.
[22:00] <cwillu> hotbabvy1, this isn't really a good channel for driver development
[22:00] <shadeslayer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=574314 this guy explains my problem,any help??
[22:01] <cwillu> cosmodad, I haven't looked at these links very closely yet, but they may be useful:
[22:01] <cwillu> cosmodad, http://www.ryancloke.com/ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-live-usb-how-to/   or   http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[22:02] <ukd1> is anyone using the nvidia drivers?
[22:02] <cwillu> cosmodad, the first one actually, it should work on hardy or on gutsy
[22:02] <presshere_> ukd1: yes
[22:02] <ukd1> presshere_: any ideas how to fix issues with them?
[22:02] <presshere_> ukd1: whats the problem?
[22:02] <M1DLG> How do I look at my hardware and instal drivers for un-installed devices? I haven't had any prompts to install certain devices, yet they remain un-installed.
[22:03] <ukd1> presshere_: pink artifacts on the screen when using the driver
[22:03] <psyk> Hy guis, i have a problem with sound in TS2.. I already tried aoss, where i didnt have any sound. Now i tried the windows bins with wine, i can listen...but instead of my mic i send out just noise.. someone have a solution or any idea whats wrong?
[22:03] <koen_> not really
[22:03] <koen_> what sound card? :)
[22:03] <cwillu> cosmodad, I'm gone now though, good luck :)
[22:03] <presshere_> ukd1: hm...sorry, i cant help
[22:03] <ukd1> presshere_: heh ty :)
[22:03] <psyk> its on-board
[22:03] <cosmodad> cwillu: thanks a lot for helping and the links
[22:04] <koen_> hmm
[22:04] <koen_> and it doesnt work out of the box?
[22:04] <ukd1> anyone else got any ideas about the nvidia stuff?
[22:04] <koen_> you checked hardware?
[22:04] <mikewu> ukd1: do you know the card name?
[22:04] <ukd1> mikewu: 6800gt
[22:05] <deamoon> guys help me to get latest ati drivers installed im nob on linux
[22:05] <psyk> everything works well, i can hear mp3's etc... also the mic is working fine
[22:05] <ukd1> mikewu: I've tried both the stock ubuntu (8.04), the legacy from hardy and the latest from nvidia.com - all give pink artifacts, most annoying.
[22:05] <BattleStarJesus> I am having trouble with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/122563/ any suggestions?
[22:05] <psyk> but i gues its a problem of alsa/wine?
[22:05] <SneekyPockets> tu] {{{  (((  ((KLERPOW!))  )))  }}}{{{  (((  ((KLERPOW!))  )))  }}}
[22:05] <M1DLG> How do I look at my hardware and instal drivers for un-installed devices? I haven't had any prompts to install certain devices, yet they remain un-installed.
[22:06] <Jufis> How to remap mouse buttons? I have this logitech VX Nano that doesn't have the wheel button and I'd like to remap one of the other buttons to work as 3rd mouse button.
[22:06] <shadeslayer> anybody here know how to use uspalsh??
[22:09] <hotbabvy1> http://www.freeos.com/articles/2677/  << i want this to compile
[22:09] <hotbabvy1> can't compile it
[22:09] <hotbabvy1> help
[22:09] <nEtZaRiM> Anyhere run 64Studio?
[22:10] <nEtZaRiM> ArtistX vs 64Studio any info
[22:10] <nEtZaRiM> ?
[22:10] <ZulKarnejn> how to install delux camera ?
[22:10] <mikewu> ukd1: hotbabvy1: does it give you an error?
[22:10] <BobSapp> how do i find out the version of ubuntu my webserver is running?
[22:10] <_VIM_> nEtZaRiM: polling is a no no here
[22:10] <BobSapp> its xen based virtual hosting
[22:10] <psyk> i even dont have sliders for mic in the recording tab of my mixer, only in the playback...is it normal? o.O
[22:10] <im> i have cdrw and dvdrom combo and cant read dvd... anyone help??
[22:10] <ukd1> mikewu: no error
[22:10] <mikewu> ukd1: did you update to the latest drivers?
[22:11] <ukd1> mikewu: yes
[22:11] <nEtZaRiM> Okay appreciate that VIM diddn't see any rules
[22:11] <nEtZaRiM> ?
[22:11] <ukd1> mikewu: 180.something
[22:11] <mikewu> ukd1: and when do you start getting the artifacts? bios? or later?
[22:11] <ukd1> mikewu: gdm start up
[22:11] <erUSUL> BobSapp: nmap it
[22:11] <nEtZaRiM> Plust to be real it wasn't a poll just a question advantages of one vs the other
[22:11] <im> i have cdrw and dvdrom combo and cant read dvd... anyone help??
[22:12] <BobSapp> cheerz erUSUL
[22:12] <ukd1> mikewu: basicly when x starts
[22:12] <BobSapp> i just had a look at the sources.list file
[22:12] <_VIM_> !best | nEtZaRiM
[22:12] <BobSapp> seems to be pointing at intrepid
[22:13] <hatter243> nEtZaRiM, you might find more help in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[22:13] <mikewu> ukd1: some sites are saying that pink artifacts appear when the card gets to hot
[22:13] <im> i have cdrw and dvdrom combo and cant read dvd... anyone help??
[22:13] <mikewu> ukd1: you could try downclocking your card i guess
[22:13] <nEtZaRiM> Appreciate that hatter
[22:14] <ukd1> mikewu: oh - is that easy?
[22:14] <SneekyPockets> NO
[22:14] <ZulKarnejn> how to install delux camera
[22:14] <mikewu> ukd1: sorry i have never tried idk
[22:14] <ukd1> mikewu: :D thanks for the info though
[22:14] <spaceBARbarian> has anyone tried hooking up samba through hamachi before ?
[22:15] <im> i have cdrw and dvdrom combo and cant read dvd... anyone help??
[22:15] <juljul> bonjour !
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> !dvd
[22:15] <_VIM_> !fr
[22:16] <david_> Hi
[22:16] <sebsebseb> hi
[22:16] <fearful> hello
[22:17] <ZulKarnejn> how to install delux camera
[22:17] <david_> I'm curious how I might enable emerald window manager in ubumtu.  I type --replace emerald into the terminal, but when I close the terminal it goes away and there aren't any more window decorations
[22:17] <jonaskoelker> is maint-guide as packaged by ubuntu relevant to ubuntu maintainers?
[22:17] <ax> is it a really bad idea to sleep my computer while i'm upgrading from 8.04 -> 8.10?
[22:17] <ax> i want to change locations
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> im:  sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[22:17] <fearful> ax, yes
[22:18] <fearful> ax, well it will pause itself
[22:18] <^MadDog^> its bad idea to upgrade to 8.10
[22:18] <dewmon689> any ltsp experts here?  or AD intergration with ubuntu 8.10?
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> ^MadDog^: works awesome here
[22:18] <ax> bummer.. .. if it weren't doing so much disc writing/reading i'd just put my computer in my bag and bike home..
[22:18] <fearful> ^MadDog^, no complains here either
[22:18] <^MadDog^> ActionParsnip: here it works slower
[22:18] <Jufis> How to remap mouse buttons? I have this logitech VX Nano that doesn't have the wheel button and I'd like to remap one of the other buttons to work as 3rd mouse button.
[22:19] <ZulKarnejn> anybody to help me howto install delux camera on ubuntu ??
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> ^MadDog^: i guess it varys, you can only call it as you see it i guess
[22:19] <erUSUL> !webcam | ZulKarnejn
[22:19] <dmulholland> hey, I want to link a directory within /var/www to somewhere else, what's the easiest way to do it/
[22:19] <david_> how do I get the emerald window decorator to stay on when the terminal isn't open?
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> ZulKarnejn: is it a webcam?
[22:19] <im> ActionParsnip, i cant install libdvdcss2 :S it needs other installion
[22:19] <dmulholland> I tried ln but that didnt work as I would have hoped
[22:19] <ZulKarnejn> yes a webcam is
[22:19] <rhsanborn> Can anyone recommend a good, gui partition manager? I need to change the filesystem type of an external disk
[22:19] <sebsebseb> rhsanborn: Gparted
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> david_: make a script to run the command you run, the add it to your !startup
[22:19] <sebsebseb> rhsanborn: or QTparted
[22:20] <rhsanborn> sebsebseb: ty
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> !webcam | ZulKarnejn
[22:20] <david_> ActionParship: A script?
[22:20] <david_> you mean a txt file with the command in it?
[22:21] <dmulholland> !bash | david_
[22:21] <burkmat> Has anyone here successfully installed Ubuntu on an HP 2133?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> david_: yeah pretty much, make sure it has #!/bin/bash as the first line, and chmod +x it as well
[22:21] <dmulholland> david_: have a google at bash scripting, very useful to get hold of the basics
[22:21] <david_> okay thanks guys
[22:21] <strange> hey guys im having sound problems in flash videos, the sound is fubar when i play it
[22:22] <strange> it works normal in other apllications just not in flash
[22:22] <M1DLG> How do I change a newly formated drives permitions??
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> burkmat: theres a release for it: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HP2133
[22:23] <burkmat> ActionParsnip, Yeah, been there for the past 4 hours... :P Can't install without fixing graphics - And I can't seem to get them alive.
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> burkmat: minbuntu is what you should grab
[22:23] <burkmat> ActionParsnip, Will check into that - Tyvm.
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> burkmat: yep it has issues
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> burkmat: looks like it uses the i810 driver
[22:24] <nutzer> hi
[22:24] <psyk> have nobody an idea how to get mic working is TS2 with wine?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> burkmat: in that guide it says sudo gedit, this is wrong, use gksudo gedit instead
[22:25] <burkmat> ActionParsnip, That's not my problem - I'm experienced enough to do all that editing through bash... It's just the xorg.conf not working, and apparently my model isn't even listed on that site.
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> burkmat: try lower settings and slowly increase
[22:26] <PigeonHD`> Hi, anyone know how to print more than one slide per page with openoffice impress (powerpoint)?
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> burkmat: http://www.morethan.org/mini-note/xorg-mini.html
[22:27] <im> ActionParsnip, i cant install libdvdcss2, it is not in source...
[22:27] <burkmat> ActionParsnip, Just gonna try Minbuntu - Or go for another distro that hopefully has more luck. Or just grab a fork and scrape the Vista off the HDD. :P
[22:27] <DIFH-iceroot> !libdvdcss2 | im
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> im: enable restricted and 3rd party repos
[22:28] <im> k
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> vista on it, yikes
[22:29] <PotterT|VF> whats the name of the default vnc viewer in intrepid?
[22:29] <dewmon689> anyone here use ubuntu for a high school soloution?
[22:29] <sebsebseb> PotterT|VF: remote desktop viewer, and that's not secure
[22:29] <PotterT|VF> sebsebseb: no
[22:30] <PotterT|VF> sebsebseb: the vnc viewer
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> PotterT|VF: there isnt a default
[22:30] <MDW-Skool>  irc.gigalogik.com 6667
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> PotterT|VF: apt-cache search vnc
[22:30] <PotterT|VF> ActionParsnip: there is one installed, vin something
[22:30] <PotterT|VF> not vino anymore
[22:30] <mxrush76> hi to all
[22:30] <PotterT|VF> vinager?
[22:30] <CyberSurfer> hmm
[22:30] <im> hello
[22:31] <dewmon689> anyone know how to get pam mount to work in 8.10?
[22:31] <CyberSurfer> I'm having a problem with apt-get and synaptic package manager
[22:31] <PotterT|VF> !file vinagre
[22:31] <PotterT|VF> !info vinagre
[22:31] <mxrush76> i hope that someone can help me with a problem that i have with the wireless and ubuntu 8.10
[22:31] <PotterT|VF> thanks ubottu
[22:31] <PotterT|VF> :-P
[22:31] <CyberSurfer> when I use sudo apt-get install something I get this
[22:31] <CyberSurfer> Reading package lists... Done
[22:31] <CyberSurfer> Segmentation faulty tree... 0%
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> PotterT|VF: vinagre - VNC client for the GNOME Desktop
[22:32] <CyberSurfer> and it just stops
[22:32] <FloodBot3> CyberSurfer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> PotterT|VF: its not default though
[22:32] <PotterT|VF> yes ActionParsnip, thats what i asked for
[22:32] <PotterT|VF> ActionParsnip: its installed from the livecd, thats default enough for me
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> PotterT|VF: any vnc client is optionally installed
[22:32] <PotterT|VF> you sure?
[22:32] <CyberSurfer> and when I try to synaptic package manager it just flashes and stop
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> PotterT|VF: why not try one that suits your needs rather being "the default"
[22:32] <PotterT|VF> eh, doesn't matter, my question is answered
[22:33] <PotterT|VF> ActionParsnip: i'm not trying one, i wanted to remember the name of the program that i know works, i'm at work which runs fedora, and wanted to install it
[22:33] <PotterT|VF> thanks
[22:33] <yannick_> Hi everybody
[22:33] <yannick_> I'm a new user of Ubuntu
[22:33] <im> welcome
[22:33] <sebsebseb> yannick_: hi
[22:33] <sebsebseb> yannick_: what you want help with?
[22:33] <mxrush76> someone had problem with thinkpad wireless?
[22:34] <yannick_> And I think It's awesome
[22:34] <CyberSurfer> can somebody help me?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> yannick_: sweet
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> !ask | CyberSurfer
[22:34] <CyberSurfer> kay
[22:34] <yannick_> I search ethereal but i haven't been found
[22:34] <IcemanV9> mxrush76: no i don't ;-)
[22:35] <beautifulsnow> Hi all..... I'm following this guide: http://daemon.prozone.org/~david/projects/lmpcm_usb/  and got everything until it says the hexdump thing. (halfway down the page). Nothing happens when I push the buttons.  :/ But if I unplug then plug in my mouse, dmeg says the driver recognized the mouse. :/ Why isn't the mouse workiiiinggg !   :P
[22:35] <CyberSurfer> I'm having a problem with apt-get and synaptic package manager, when I use sudo apt-get install something I get this "Reading package lists... Done - Segmentation faulty tree... 0%" and it just stops and when I try to synaptic package manager it just flashes and stop
[22:36] <yannick_> By the way, Anybody speak french ?
[22:36] <mxrush76> i had an old r51 thinkpad celeron M, with intel  wireless card everthing is working but it can't conect to any wireless network even not protected
[22:36] <beautifulsnow> Yes but for ubuntu support,  you should go to #ubuntu-fr
[22:36] <yannick_> ok thanks
[22:36] <bejcek69> cauky
[22:36] <beautifulsnow> :-)
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> CyberSurfer: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install
[22:36] <dewmon689> anyone having issues using pam mount in 8.10?
[22:37] <CyberSurfer> ActionParsnip, same problem
[22:37] <Javier88> hello, i'm having a really slow internet, my torrents are really slow and youtube wo'nt play inmediately, i know it's not a network issue since my laptop with xo works just fine.. i'm using intrepid ibex.. any ideas?
[22:37] <CyberSurfer> sudo apt-get update works, but sudo apt-get -f install doesn't
[22:37] <IcemanV9> mxrush76: weak signal? what version of ubuntu?
[22:37] <beautifulsnow> CyberSurfer, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19563
[22:37] <bejcek69> potrebuji radu!!!
[22:37] <mxrush76> 8.10 no i have very strong signal
[22:38] <lu6cifer> is there anyway to open your home folder from terminal?
[22:38] <yannick_> i search ethereal or an equivalent ... anybody have an idea ?
[22:38] <beautifulsnow> lu6cifer,  yes. On the file browser?    just type nautilus
[22:38] <lu6cifer> thanks
[22:38] <Shaun> roadrock: hello agai
[22:38] <erUSUL> !info wireshark | yannick_
[22:38] <CyberSurfer> oh
[22:38] <tashammer> Advice needed please. i installed Ubuntu 8.04 i386 Desktop and now i have just installed Ubuntu 8.10. My problem was that when i first installed Ubuntu it read Ubuntu-IT which i read as Information Technology. Blush. Is it possible to remove the Italian part as i am neither Italian nor do i read Italian?
[22:38] <bejcek69> CZ?
[22:39] <CyberSurfer> it worked, beautifulsnow, thanks
[22:39] <yannick_> it's an equivalent of ethereal ?
[22:39] <Javier88> hello, i'm having a really slow internet, my torrents are really slow and youtube wo'nt play inmediately, i know it's not a network issue since my laptop with xp works just fine.. i'm using intrepid ibex.. any ideas?
[22:39] <Shaun> roadrock: there was a bug in the new udev (i use jaunty, prob should have mentioned that) causing it to repeatedly update lvm as if it had changed
[22:39] <erUSUL> tashammer: remove the italian language packs and install the ones for your caountry
[22:39] <erUSUL> !repeat | Javier88
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> CyberSurfer: are u using raid?
[22:39] <beautifulsnow> Javier88, is it a fresh install of intrepid?
[22:40] <tashammer> thanks erUSUL
[22:40] <IcemanV9> mxrush76: are you using the network manager? if so then right-click on the icon, select connection information. make sure it's using the right wireless card (eth1)
[22:40] <CyberSurfer> ActionParnisp, my problem was solved already, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19563
[22:40] <CyberSurfer> thanks anyway
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> CyberSurfer: np man
[22:40] <gianluca> hello world
[22:40] <freesaif> Hi ^^
[22:40] <gianluca> is there anyone of you that has an iPhone?
[22:40] <mxrush76> Iceman V9, yes i has use the network manager...
[22:40] <roadrock> Shaun: good detective work
[22:40] <Shaun> hehe
[22:41] <yannick_> erUSUL ->> thanks  for Wireshark
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> !iod | gianluca
[22:41] <Javier88> beautifulsnow, it's a fresh install, i'm using wlan that seems slower than the wired lan even thouh the signal is in 95%
[22:41] <erUSUL> yannick_: no problem
[22:41] <Shaun> should have checked the processor load, udev was stealing 90%~
[22:41] <gianluca> is it possible to transfer files with USB in ubuntu
[22:41] <yannick_> Bye
[22:41] <beautifulsnow> Javier88, have you done all the updates? (Ive had the same problem youre having right now)
[22:41] <erUSUL> Javier88: maybe it is connected at 1Mbit
[22:41] <Shaun> and there was constant disk access as it repeatedly added my lvm array over and over and over
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> !ipod  ganluca
[22:41] <mxrush76> i had tested all the network that have avaiable... and none works
[22:41] <erUSUL> Javier88: try this « sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M »
[22:42] <beautifulsnow> Javier88,  do you know what wifi card you've got? There's a few bugs about very slow internet with intrepid
[22:43] <Javier88> beautifulsnow, erUSUL: it's completely updated.. i tried this lastnight http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=872346&highlight=mtu+internet.. but thie files i had to modify didn't had the content the forum says even though i canged the MTu through GUI to 1492 bites
[22:43] <Javier88> bytes
[22:44] <gianluca> one question. I have ubuntu since december 2007. Recently my brother bought a laptop with Vista and it is quite fast
[22:44] <gianluca> According to you is Ubuntu faster than Vista?
[22:44] <beautifulsnow> Does it have 8 MB of RAM ?
[22:44] <roadrock> Shaun: wow, good job.
[22:44] <HeXiLeD> linux is
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: that because windows has killer driver support
[22:44] <HeXiLeD> faster than windows
[22:44] <mxrush76> ubuntu is faster than vista!!!!
[22:44] <Javier88> gianluca, what spects do you have in both computers?
[22:44] <Mike__> Ubuntu on my laptop runs slower than Windows XP
[22:44] <sebsebseb> gianluca: Ubuntu works much better than Vista,  when it comes to the technical aspects of an OS
[22:44] <Mike__> but I still use Ubuntu
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> HeXiLeD: depends on config asnd version of windows
[22:44] <Shaun> roadrock: i didnt really have to do anything, the bug was fixed sometime today and an update cured it :)
[22:45] <dewmon689> looking for people who use ubuntu for school soloutions
[22:45] <Shaun> any linux is faster than vista...
[22:45] <sebsebseb> gianluca: also there are other distros that work better than Ubuntu
[22:45] <roadrock> Shaun: linux rules, way to go
[22:45] <HeXiLeD> i forget that this is ubuntu. it's all binaries ...
[22:45] <beautifulsnow> dewmon689, might want to try #edubuntu
[22:45] <gianluca> I installed in the past gentoo but didn't find it faster than other distros
[22:45] <Shaun> heh, ive been using linux fulltime for over 3 years, but theres always something new to learn...
[22:46] <HeXiLeD> compilie from source mike with specific settings
[22:46] <M1DLG> i've installed ubuntu on my main pc and it's much much faster than any other OS I've tried - straight out of the box, and now I only have 1gb spare on hdd it's still running fast and all my ususal apps are installed.
[22:46] <Shaun> to be honest i should have checked the running processes ages ago, but i didnt give it much thought, ah well
[22:46] <gianluca> But I agree that Vista is awful.
[22:46] <____Mike____> what's the target architecture of ubuntu anyway? pentium 3?
[22:46] <HeXiLeD> ActionParsnip depends only how linux is compiled :)
[22:46] <beautifulsnow> lol
[22:47] <gianluca> I guess that if my brother would install ubuntu, it would run as a rocket
[22:47] <superkiwi> When I use openbox on Ubuntu I don't understand how I alter the content of the right-click menu. How does Ubuntu create the content of the menu?
[22:47] <mxrush76> Vista is not that bad but for everyday job ubuntu make it faster and beauty
[22:47] <gianluca> I have intel core 2 duo T7700
[22:47] <gianluca> on hp Pavilion dv2690el
[22:47] <gianluca> I have to say that this laptop is shit
[22:47]  * burkmat surrenders for today... Vista may have won the battle, but Linux shall win the war!
[22:47] <gianluca> very short battery life
[22:48] <gianluca> heating too much
[22:48] <beautifulsnow> !language
[22:48] <HeXiLeD> gianluca install powertop and see what  you can change
[22:48] <gianluca> and I tried to optimize the power consumption with powertop
[22:48] <gianluca> Vista is awful because it destroys competition:
[22:49] <mikewu> superkiwi: see this site http://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/#Menus
[22:49] <sebsebseb> gianluca: yep it sucks that Windows has most market share
[22:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[22:49] <sebsebseb> gianluca: and as a result certain aspects of computing can't progress properly
[22:49] <sebsebseb> Jack_Sparrow: indeed all of that is off topic
[22:50] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[22:50] <gianluca> sebsebseb: yes but Microsoft will lose slowly the market
[22:50] <beautifulsnow> sebsebseb,  who cares? Good for microsoft.  But if I use umask=117 I can't access folders on the device...  can you tell me please the correct options for fstab?
[22:55] <Jack_Sparrow> hexler I always mess that up.. so that would be permissions of 660?  Can you set permissions on the mount point?
[22:55] <yme> Hi, how can I see the OS swap area on Ubuntu?
[22:56] <Cool_Nick> I'm getting an error about missing a make file during a kernel compile.  I used the instructions from: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild
[22:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !kernel > Cool_Nick
[22:57] <slew> hi. i recently upgraded to intrepid and i need to know which package to install to get the nvidia to work again.
[22:57] <beautifulsnow> I dont think the  bots working ^^
[22:57] <Cool_Nick> ubottu..thats the same webpage I listed...Step number 3
[22:58] <woody86> what's the command to see what wireless adapter is installed?
[22:58] <finsprings> How can I get Intrepid to set environment variables for GUI apps when I sign in? I have tried .xinitrc, .xprofile etc to no avail
[22:58] <gogutech> my sistem go craizy , first one was the window border ( it was missing ) , y kan'not play any files ( audio video,sistem crash) and many more
[22:58] <gogutech> any ideea ?
[22:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Cool_Nick The operative part is.. /join #Kernel..  This is ubuntu support thanks
[22:58] <Plugh> Cool_Nick: IIRC, it is xserver-xorg-drivers-nvidia and there is also a kernel module
[22:58] <unop> woody86, iwconfig
[22:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Cool_Nick Please tell us what exactly you are trying to do
[22:59] <Plugh> Cool_Nick: nvidia-kernel-common is the other package
[22:59] <hexler> Jack_Sparrow: Yes 660 for files and 770 for folders so I thought. (in my book I can read that umask substract umask from 666 for files and from 777 for folders)... but permissions for folders and files are the same
[23:00] <woody86> unop, what about the comand that actually shows the type of adapter? Like the name of it?
[23:00] <hexler> Jack_Sparrow:  chmod the mountpoint doesn't effect the files / folder in it...
[23:01] <Jack_Sparrow> hexler try setting permissions on the mount.
[23:01] <unop> woody86, lspci, lshw -C network, lshal, etc
[23:01] <woody86> unop, tyvm!
[23:01] <Jack_Sparrow> hexler Permissions on a windows drive?
[23:01] <Jack_Sparrow> hexler Sorry, I am a bit out of it atm
[23:01] <hexler> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[23:02] <im> i cant play movie dvd anybody help ?? dvdrom cant read...
[23:02] <fr500> hey
[23:02] <Guest12300> how do I connect to a server with ssl on IRSSI?
[23:03] <thony> how do I connect to a server with ssl on IRSSI?
[23:03] <thony> plz help me
[23:03] <Plugh> which package provides something called nash-hotplug?
[23:03] <thony> how do I connect to a server with ssl on IRSSI?
[23:03] <w3wsrmn> thony: with the -ssl switch
[23:03] <thony> plz help me
[23:03] <thony> i will try
[23:03] <thony> thankz
[23:03] <thony> and another thing
[23:04] <thony> does IRSSI supports multples servers on?
[23:04] <baz> Ubuntu is primary desktop on all 5 of my pc's. As awesome as sudo is, it seems to be a little flawed, let me tell you why. One reason is that it led me to change my password to a simpler, less secure one that is easier to type because i have to type it so many times a day. Another consequence of having to type it many times a day is that it gives a lot of opportunity for your neighbours to see what you are typing - think of a cubical office
[23:04] <baz> . Am I off?
[23:04] <unop> Plugh, there is no package in the ubuntu repositories that provides that -- http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=intrepid&mode=exactfilename&searchon=contents&keywords=nash-hotplug
[23:04] <w3wsrmn> thony: up, all on window 1. use CTRL+X to switch between them
[23:04] <millertime_018> hey, i'm having trouble getting my bluetooth dongle to work in ubuntu
[23:04] <hexler> Jack_Sparrow: my problem is that all files on my mountet windows partition are marked as runable... but if I change the umask it effects folder and files in the same way (and folders cannot be accessed anymore)
[23:05] <thony> ok thankz
[23:05] <thony> bye.
[23:05] <finsprings> anyone know how the login profile stuff works?
[23:05] <thesaint4444> hi guys, is there any way I can find out my evolution mail account passwords. I need to migrate a machine and can't find or change the account data. thanks.
[23:06] <Plugh> unop, thanks. Its odd. The top program shows it as running on my machine but I am having trouble figuring out where it originates.
[23:06] <brandonp> hey guys, quick question. is there a way to resize the default window size for applications, because a lot of windows that I open are too big, meaning they go below the lower taskbar
[23:06] <slew> hi. i recently upgraded to intrepid and i need to know which package to install to get the nvidia to work again.
[23:06] <millertime_018> does anyone know how to get bluetooth working in ubuntu?
[23:06] <unop> Plugh,  try locating the file.   locate "*nash-hotplug"
[23:07] <Plugh> unop, Already tried locate and a find command.
[23:07] <Plugh> ah... just had another idea...
[23:07] <unop> Plugh, you can set a ps option to list the full path, iirc
[23:08] <brandonp> hey guys, quick question. is there a way to resize the default window size for applications, because a lot of windows that I open are too big, meaning they go below the lower taskbar
[23:08] <Jack_Sparrow> brandonp Are you working at a very low res
[23:09] <brandonp> max res that my netbook alows
[23:09] <brandonp> allows
[23:09] <Jack_Sparrow> brandonp Is this the netbook remix
[23:09] <Plugh> unop, that lists /bin/nash
[23:09] <brandonp> no jack_sparrow, its intrepid
[23:09] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[23:10] <Jack_Sparrow> brandonp I assume at least 1024 x 768
[23:10] <redrebel> i have java source files in multiple folders, how can I use 'wc' to count the total number of lines?
[23:10] <SlimeyPete> wc -l */*
[23:10] <brandonp> no, its 1024x600 actually
[23:10] <Jack_Sparrow> redrebel /join #Java for more info
[23:10] <unop> Plugh, hmm.   even that doesn't appear to be in any standard package.  maybe it's from something you installed manually..  what does this give you?   dpkg -S /bin/nash
[23:10] <SlimeyPete> or.. is it "cat */* | wc -l"
[23:10] <lbo_ken> hi all  i would like to know if there is any  opensource   for facturations   that work on linux
[23:10] <SlimeyPete> I forget
[23:11] <unop> redrebel,   find . -type f -iname "*.java" -exec wc -l {} +
[23:11] <Jufis> how do I restart x? I made .xmodmap file to remap my mouse buttons and I want it to load. Shouldn't I restart x then?
[23:11] <redrebel> SlimeyPete: thanx, that shold work
[23:11] <lbo_ken> other than open office
[23:11] <redrebel> unop: thanx
[23:11] <mikewu> Jufis: just run xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
[23:11] <brandonp> jack_sparrow, this happened when I activated special effects for windows. such as making them shake when I drag them etc
[23:11] <Jufis> mikewu, thank you
[23:11] <M1DLG> I have partition a drive and it refuses give me permition to mount or umount it
[23:12] <M1DLG> anyone know whAT I can do to fix it
[23:12] <Jack_Sparrow> brandonp what is your current screen rews
[23:12] <Jack_Sparrow> res
[23:12] <spass> M1DLG: sudo ?
[23:12] <brandonban6> brandonp, the "effects" you speak of, is that generic or did you install compiz?
[23:12] <M1DLG> yes but I want tochange the owner tome
[23:12] <brandonp> brandonban6 they are generic
[23:12] <M1DLG> I can't write to it
[23:12] <im> i cant play movie dvd anybody help ?? dvdrom cant read...
[23:13] <brandonp> jack_sparrow its 1024x600 16:9
[23:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !dvd
[23:13] <im> it doesnt work
[23:13] <im> dvd cant read
[23:13] <Jack_Sparrow> brandonp you can try askin in #compiz since that is when the problem started
[23:13] <beautifulsnow> im,  sudo apt-get install libdvdccs2
[23:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > im
[23:14] <brandonp> jack_sparrow Its not compiz , the effects are stock on intrepid under appearance tabs
[23:14] <crdlb> brandonp: which is compiz
[23:14] <thesaint4444> if anyone needs to see their own passwords just start seahorse! - very easy.
[23:14] <Jack_Sparrow> brandonp You just said it started after you enabled them
[23:14] <brandonp> ohhhh sorry, didn't know it was compiz
[23:14] <hmw> brandonp - you can move windows by holding ALT and clicking somwhere in the window
[23:15] <im> beautifulsnow, cant find package
[23:15] <brandonp> hmw , compiz disables window resizing i think
[23:15] <brandonp> at least on mine it did
[23:15] <Jack_Sparrow> im Please read the link from ubottu earlier
[23:15] <whatishal> hello, gdm ist not starting at ubuntu-studio 8.10
[23:15] <whatishal> X istsef is working
[23:15] <hmw> brandonp - do you still see the title and border (close buttons, etc)=
[23:16] <brandonp> hmw yea the top is perfect, the windows are oversized at the bottom they run below the bottom taskbar
[23:16] <rvn> how do i install the 32bit freetype libraries on 64bit ubuntu
[23:16] <Jack_Sparrow> whatishal since they use a diff kernel perhaps you can start by asking in              /join #ubuntu-studio
[23:17] <whatishal> the last process I see with ps aux  is /usr/lib/gdm/gdmgreeter , but nothing on the screen exept the mouse
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !chroot
[23:17] <lbo_ken> hi all  i would like to know if there is any  opensource  programs for facturations    that work on linux  other than open office  spreadsheet
[23:17] <hmw> brandonban6 with only 600 pixels y-size this isnt very unexpected. some windows are too big for such a resolution. nautilus (the file browser) should be sizeable below that, though. can you resize nautilus?
[23:18] <Jack_Sparrow> lbo_ken There are other spreadsheet programs,  check them out
[23:18] <brandonp> yes hmw i can resize nautilus
[23:18] <radsy> lbo_ken, gnumeric is quite good
[23:18] <Jack_Sparrow> radsy agreed
[23:18] <brandonp> hmw for example i cant resize the window that comes out here on x=chat.. when i click on edit, preferences
[23:18] <hmw> brandonp - then i think, your only chance is the ALT+DRAG trick, to see the buttons on th bottom
[23:18] <rvn> how do i install the 32bit freetype libraries on 64bit ubuntu
[23:19] <whatishal> Im was getting an error whe starting in safe-mode that hal isnt working. without safe-mode I get only the mouse, no login
[23:19] <Jack_Sparrow> whatishal since they use a diff kernel perhaps you can start by asking in              /join #ubuntu-studio
[23:19] <brandonp> thanks hmw , i might just disable then
[23:20] <AndyTimAtWork> Good day to all.  Quite popular in here, I see.  What's a nice programmer's text editor to use in Ubuntu?  Something like Kate for KDE.
[23:20] <Jack_Sparrow> AndyTimAtWork Just use Kate
[23:20] <whatishal> thake Jack_Sparrow
[23:20] <Jack_Sparrow> whatishal np
[23:20] <srx2002> ianstill can't get this to work
[23:20] <lbo_ken> ok thanks but i was thinking like a   logiciel  like fortune 1000 for windows but free
[23:20] <AndyTimAtWork> Sorry, I should have asked, "from the installed/live CD"
[23:20] <srx2002> anyone here playing .m2s files on ubuntu
[23:20] <georgy_28> AndyTimAtWork, : you can use gedit
[23:20] <hmw> brandonp - i didnt follow your earlier conversation here. if disabling compiz would help, i would be very surprised. or did you want to disable something else?
[23:20] <srx2002> .m2ts
[23:20] <AndyTimAtWork> installer
[23:21] <AndyTimAtWork> Lemme try gedit...
[23:21] <brandonp> hmw yea well i guess its compiz, im talking about when you click on system preferences appearance effects, then you check the special effects
[23:21] <blip-> any recommendations for a tool that lets me take a video screen shot of my desktop for use in a tutorial ?  and then adding captions to it
[23:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !editors
[23:21] <blip-> !screengrab
[23:21] <blip-> !screenshot
[23:21] <badfish69> is there a program for ubuntu that will let me edit the audio and video aspects of a video file separately, removing and inserting different audio over the video and such?
[23:21] <brandonp> hmw if i click on standard effects, then the windows are fine, if i click on enhanced effects, then the windows are oversized
[23:21] <taz_> hello to all guys... anyone know how to virtualbox ???  help me please thanks
[23:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !info recordmydesktop
[23:22] <hmw> brandonp - well that sounds like compiz :) if it is really compiz, you could try to install compiz-settings-manager and tweak the thing, until it behaves. good luck!
[23:22] <blip-> thanks Jack_Sparrows
[23:22] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[23:22] <brandonp> thanks hmw
[23:23] <steve678> what is the soft/w to burn audio cd from mp3 files?
[23:23] <Jack_Sparrow> K3B with mp3 plugin
[23:24] <Haegin> hi, how do I switch what sound device programs output through on the command line?
[23:24] <steve678> ack_Sparrow: thanks!!
[23:24] <georgy_28> !ogg
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[23:24] <AndyTimAtWork> That's funny: ubottu.  Great work.  Ok, thanks to all (georgy_28, Jack_Sparrow, etc.)
[23:24] <Haegin> steve678: or brasero in Gnome
[23:24] <yun-haow> can help me to be op in narmada chanel?
[23:24] <steve678> Jack_Sparrow: thannks
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !botsnack
[23:24] <erUSUL> !info brasero | steve678
[23:24] <steve678> thanks
[23:24] <AndyTimAtWork> Heheheheh.
[23:24] <yun-haow> hallo,,,,
[23:25] <steve678> i found it in 8.10 ...cool.. thanks all
[23:25] <Haegin> is alsa or pulse the sound server I should be changing stuff in?
[23:25] <hmw> brandonp - its strange, because my compiz doesnt change window sizes. there should be a chance, to "repair" this. ask in #compiz, as it seems to be an uncommon issue. Only thing, I could think of, would be compiz changing screen resolution.
[23:25] <hotbabvy1> hello
[23:26] <yun-haow> hwois here?
[23:26] <hotbabvy1> mike wu
[23:26] <hotbabvy1> you there?
[23:26] <erUSUL> Haegin: pulse is a sound server alsa is not
[23:26] <linxeh> jack ftw
[23:26] <beautifulsnow> Anyone know why mouse woudlnt work? mouse is recognized, driver is loaded, what else?
[23:26] <hmw> Jack_Sparrow - ahoy! how about the grub factoid?
[23:26] <Burad> Hello, i have a problem. Right after install has finished with Ubuntu 8.10 and i reboot the system as instructed i can no longer access my CDrom in Ubuntu.
[23:26] <ploom> oh dear
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> hmw One sec
[23:26] <ploom> why alsa at all, when there is oss4
[23:26] <ploom> ?
[23:27] <linxeh> ploom: because we have JACK
[23:27] <hotbabvy1> hello
[23:27] <hotbabvy1> mikewu
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> hmw Run this  http://paste.ubuntu.com/122541/
[23:27] <Haegin> erUSUL: ok, so which changes where the noise comes from? I have USB headphones and a 5.1 speaker setup. I use speakers normally but at night want to switch to headphones to let my flatmates sleep.
[23:27] <hotbabvy1> ??
[23:27] <bachus> ave
[23:28] <hmw> Jack_Sparrow i just thought, you wanted to add a link to the factoid
[23:28] <Burad> The node usualy used /dev/scd0 no loger exists and sd_mod and crsom are no longer loaded. i tryed manualy loding them but with no help
[23:28] <Jack_Sparrow> hmw TO the script right..
[23:28] <steve678> i add one mp3 for audio, brasero is shows busy and then looks like it hangs.
[23:28] <Jack_Sparrow> hmw The script is all new
[23:28] <erUSUL> Haegin: dunno were the problem may be; sorry. launch the PA manager "paman" and tweak things there
[23:29] <hmw> Jack_Sparrow thanks, i will update my copy then.
[23:29] <DutchBarracuda> can anyone help me with a ubuntu+eeepc network problem?
[23:29] <ploom> linxeh, all that jack vs alsa vs oss really indicates that linux audio is forked. Hopefully this will settle in near future.
[23:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !eee
[23:29] <Haegin> steve678: give it a minute. It might be converting before it updates the space on the CD you havn't burnt yet.
[23:29] <Haegin> erUSUL: thanks
[23:30] <ianm_> recommendations for a music player that eats minimal CPU ?
[23:30] <Jack_Sparrow> erUSUL Do you have a sec to try this for me..?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/122541/
[23:30] <Haegin> ianm_: mpd
[23:30] <DutchBarracuda> ubottu: not installing ubuntu on eee pc. Ubuntu on my pc and xandros on eepc, trying to get network between them to work
[23:30] <beautifulsnow> ianm_, whats wrong with totem?
[23:30] <DutchBarracuda> damn
[23:30] <linxeh> ploom: maybe, but really it is JACK vs OSS I guess - ALSA is too restrictive (nobody wants to tie themselves to one platform after all)
[23:30] <Wunderbar> problems connecting with my wireless
[23:30] <linxeh> and OSS died years ago, its got a lot of ground to gain
[23:31] <dost> ianm_: vlc, mplayer
[23:31] <ianm_> beautifulsnow: it's for live visuals performance so the lighter the audio player better
[23:31] <ianm_> *the better
[23:31] <badfish69> where is my repository list?
[23:31] <badfish69> !repository
[23:31] <Jack_Sparrow> badfish69 /etc/apt/sources.lst
[23:31] <Lepjepr> /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:32] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: checking...
[23:32] <DutchBarracuda> no takers for my network prob?
[23:32] <Jack_Sparrow> erUSUL ty
[23:32] <Haegin> ianm_: for playing a playlist try mpd. For playing the occasional CD and specific tracks xmms is pretty good (xmms not xmms2 which is more like mpd just with sucky clients)
[23:32] <Jack_Sparrow> DutchBarracuda Ask a better question
[23:32] <KujiUn> Excuse me, but what command do I use to restart a program from the terminal?
[23:32] <Haegin> erUSUL: you never mentioned this paman thing was GUI! gah!
[23:33] <maxb> KujiUn: the name of the program itself, in the general case.
[23:33] <Lepjepr> i dont know how to restart
[23:33] <blodski> how do i maximize a window-based program?
[23:33] <DutchBarracuda> Jack_Sparrow: k, connectin my EEEpc to my Ubuntu pc isn't working. Am plugged, set up connection, but they're not finding each other
[23:33] <Lepjepr> but you can try killall programname and then just to start the program agian
[23:33] <KujiUn> maxb: I mean to quit and restart.
[23:33] <Jack_Sparrow> DutchBarracuda Direct or through a router
[23:33] <Wunderbar> what do I need to do if my wired connection works but my wireless connection doesn't:?
[23:33] <Wunderbar> this is a recent development...
[23:33] <ukd1> mikewu: fyi I put in a spare nvidia card, recompiled the nvidia driver and all is fine now :)
[23:33] <maxb> KujiUn: Be more specific about what you're trying to do
[23:33] <DutchBarracuda> Jack_Sparrow: direct, nothing in between
[23:34] <Jack_Sparrow> DutchBarracuda Is it a crossover cable?
[23:34] <badfish69> Jack_Sparrow: that file is empty
[23:34] <beautifulsnow> Wunderbar, how does the wifi doesnt work? (do you see the networks? do you get any error messages? What happens?)
[23:34] <Jack_Sparrow> badfish69 /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:34] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: fails because i do not have a Desktop directory ;P my ubuntu is in spanish so i have Escritorio
[23:34] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry
[23:34] <KujiUn> I'm trying to restart Nautilus without restarting the session.
[23:34] <hotbabvy1> http://www.freeos.com/articles/2677/
[23:34] <hotbabvy1> can't get it compile
[23:34] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: better to output in $HOME
[23:34] <hotbabvy1>  help
[23:34] <hotbabvy1> http://www.freeos.com/articles/2677/
[23:34] <Jack_Sparrow> erUSUL Great.. NOted..
[23:34] <FloodBot3> hotbabvy1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:34] <beautifulsnow> KujiUn,   killall nautilus  & nautilus
[23:34] <hotbabvy1> can't get it compile
[23:34] <DutchBarracuda> Jack_Sparrow: just ya standard network cable (not modem or anything else)
[23:34] <badfish69> ah ty
[23:35] <Abueleitor> hi all
[23:35] <Jack_Sparrow> DutchBarracuda to go direct you need a special cable
[23:35] <hotbabvy1> http://www.freeos.com/articles/2677/
[23:35] <hotbabvy1> can't get it compile
[23:35] <hotbabvy1> help :(
[23:35] <maxb> KujiUn: Can you not simply close the window?
[23:35] <FloodBot3> hotbabvy1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:35] <Wunderbar> I can see the networks and it allows me to enter the key but it won't connect...
[23:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpme
[23:35] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: you want the output for my system?
[23:36] <Jack_Sparrow> erUSUL Not needed
[23:36] <KujiUn> maxb: No, I installed nautilus-open-terminal.
[23:36] <DutchBarracuda> Jack_Sparrow: ok will route round for another cable, might be just dodgy thank you
[23:36] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: seems to work as spected...
[23:36] <Jack_Sparrow> erUSUL Was just trying to make a better tool
[23:36] <blodski> how do i maximize a window-based program?
[23:36] <beautifulsnow> Wunderbar,  using Network Manager? Does it just keep trying to connect? Or does it stop? If so, does it say why it wont connect?
[23:36] <Abueleitor> i have ubuntu ibex, someone can help me? i have a problem with a webcam
[23:36] <hotbabvy1> it says can't find header file
[23:36] <hotbabvy1> http://www.freeos.com/articles/2677/
[23:36] <maxb> KujiUn: otherwise, the command "kill" kills specific process ids, "pkill" allows killing by name.
[23:36] <KujiUn> beautifulsnow: Thank you. Problem solved.
[23:36] <Wunderbar> no reason given for not connecting
[23:36] <hotbabvy1> i couldn't even compile because kernel headers r missing
[23:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !compile > hotbabvy1
[23:36] <beautifulsnow> ^^
[23:37] <hotbabvy1> ?
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !info build_essentials
[23:37] <beautifulsnow> Wunderbar, so does it keep trying to connect, until you tell it to stop?
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !info build_essential
[23:37] <Wunderbar> hold on, let me test it again
[23:37] <hotbabvy1> build-essential <<
[23:37] <maxb> !info build-essential
[23:37] <maxb> (Package names can _never_ contain underscores)
[23:37] <hotbabvy1> hey maxb
[23:38] <hotbabvy1> wanna help me to compile
[23:38] <hotbabvy1> http://www.freeos.com/articles/2677/  << this code
[23:38] <Wunderbar> ok, it asks for authorisation- even though the key has already been entered correctly...
[23:41] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: also fails if pastebinit is not installed in do_pastebin there is no sudo for the apt-get command
[23:41] <vgambitFO> I already have Hardy Heron on my laptop. Can I just upgrade to the new Ubuntu release, or will I have to reinstall?
[23:42] <Jack_Sparrow> vgambitFO Make a backup and upgrade
[23:42] <erUSUL> !upgrade | vgambitFO
[23:42] <vgambitFO> thanks
[23:42] <vgambitFO> making a backup really isn't an option at the moment
[23:42] <mike_hurley> anybody have any luck with "unicast" (ethtool -s eth0 wol u) wake on lan?
[23:43] <mike_hurley> even with static ip, the machine autowakes after a minute or two
[23:43] <millertime_018> Does anyone know what a SVN repository is?
[23:44] <Abueleitor> a sourde code repositori
[23:44] <Athenon> when reinstalling klogd and syslogd, i got a bunch of these: fopen: Permission denied.....even though im root.  any ideas?
[23:44] <georgy_28> ! svn
[23:44] <Abueleitor> where the code is placed to rest
[23:44] <millertime_018> ! CVS
[23:44] <Wunderbar> can't connect to wireless- asks for authorisation even though key is correct...
[23:45] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: another glitch... in do_pastebin again you hardcoded outfile instead of using $OUTFILE in the sed call
[23:45] <millertime_018> georgy_28: do you know how to install blueman
[23:45] <pHreaksYcle> does anyone here use Google's Blogger?
[23:45] <millertime_018> does anyone know how to install blueman?
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> ty..  truley appreciated
[23:46] <pHreaksYcle> millertime: you have to add their repo to your sources
[23:46] <pHreaksYcle> millertime: then its as simple as sudo apt-get install blueman
[23:46] <pHreaksYcle> etc
[23:46] <RachedTN> hello
[23:46] <RachedTN> I have just installed NetBeans 6.5 on Ubuntu
[23:46] <Wunderbar> ?????
[23:46] <RachedTN> than : sudo aptitude install apache2 php5 mysql-server php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 phpmyadmin
[23:46] <RachedTN> now : i have created a demo database with phpmyadmin
[23:47] <RachedTN> Is there anyone who work with nebeans on Ubuntu ?
[23:47] <LogicFan> is there a default keyboard shortcut for cycling/opening/closing/ through applications in the tray of gnome panel?
[23:47] <georgy_28> millertime_018, : https://edge.launchpad.net/~blueman/+archive/ppa
[23:48] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: more input to your script... export LC_ALL=C so the messages of the various utils do not are in native language... some of mine are in spanish
[23:48] <millertime_018> thanx
[23:48] <pHreaksYcle> LogicFan: if im reading you correctly this is waht you want. . .
[23:48] <pHreaksYcle> to open the menu Alt+F1 then use the arrows
[23:48] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: hope that helps
[23:48] <beautifulsnow> LogicFan,  you mean like alt-tab?
[23:48] <LogicFan> pHreaksYcle, i'm familiar with that one, but i mean items specifically in the tray
[23:49] <LogicFan> e.g. volume, battery/power, wifi/network status
[23:49] <pHreaksYcle> LogicFan: you mean the notification area :P confuzzled me
[23:49] <hotbabvy1> help with compiling code below
[23:49] <hotbabvy1> http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~baker/devices/lxr/http/source/ldd-examples/misc-modules/hello.c
[23:49] <hotbabvy1> help
[23:49] <beautifulsnow> oh sorry^^
[23:49] <FloodBot3> hotbabvy1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:49] <beautifulsnow> yeah confused ^^
[23:49] <LogicFan> pHreaksYcle, ahh, sorry about that :)
[23:49] <pHreaksYcle> LogicFan: yeah, im not sure, i think it's limited to mouse clicks
[23:49] <M1DLG> whats happening here when I boot up? http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/mmTR9Ga5IAjekyOdBUxCKQ?feat=directlink
[23:49] <pHreaksYcle> LogicFan: i haven't been impressed with the notification area for a while now, especially the volume app
[23:49] <LogicFan> there are so many apps that minimize or can remain active in the notification area, it would be nice to access them with keyboard shortcuts
[23:50] <millertime_018> georgy_28: do you have blueman installed?
[23:50] <LogicFan> also, some apps i use i dont need active, i just need to check them once in a while while they're running in the notification area
[23:50] <LogicFan> e.g. transmission bittorrent client or pidgin
[23:50] <georgy_28> millertime_018, ; no
[23:51] <LogicFan> beautifulsnow, an alt-tab for the notification area would be great
[23:51] <pHreaksYcle> LogicFan: yup, dunno what to tell you. keep them in your open windows list to alt-tab from.
[23:51] <[ifrog]> !find freesans
[23:51] <beautifulsnow> LogicFan, yeah it would! We could use all those programs that just sit there, and not let them take taskbar space :D
[23:51] <[ifrog]> !find freesans.tff
[23:51] <pHreaksYcle> fail
[23:51] <LogicFan> beautifulsnow, exactly!
[23:52] <LogicFan> pHreaksYcle, yeah, that's what i'm doing as a temp solution
[23:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !find msttcore
[23:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !info msttcorefonts
[23:52] <steve678> HI, whats this mean? steve@steve-laptop:~$ k3b
[23:52] <steve678> kdeinit: Aborting. bind() failed: : Not a directory
[23:52] <steve678> Could not bind to socket '/home/steve/.kde/socket-steve-laptop/kdeinit__0'
[23:52] <LogicFan> but it doesn't work for apps that run from within the notification area, like volume control, time/weather, battery status, wifi indicator
[23:52] <deagle> hello all
[23:52] <pHreaksYcle> anyone use blogger here?
[23:52] <pHreaksYcle> im trying to find the easiest way to put in that "read more" when clicked link and shorten up my articles
[23:53] <[ifrog]> !find freesans.ttf
[23:53] <deagle> could someone be kind enough to send me /usr/lib/xscreensaver/flurry please?
[23:53] <deagle> for some reason, i don't have it even though the package is installed and the screensaver picker shows the entry
[23:54] <blodski> how do i restart inetd?
[23:54] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: a patch http://pastebin.com/m8179bb6
[23:54] <pHreaksYcle> deagle: i dont have that filename
[23:54] <deagle> inetd restart
[23:54] <pHreaksYcle> deagle: whats the real filename??
[23:54] <LogicFan> looks like i'm not alone: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/18242/
[23:54] <beautifulsnow> deagle,  /usr/lib/xscreensaver/flurry
[23:54] <beautifulsnow> oops
[23:54] <deagle> lol
[23:54] <Howly> are you here Stephen?
[23:54] <blodski> then that wasnt the problem, oh well... last question, how do i maximize a window program?
[23:55] <beautifulsnow> deagle, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=941675
[23:55] <Howly> say something
[23:55] <thesaint4444> hi guys, anyone know of a good way to encrypt a txt file so it can be opened and closed easily?
[23:55] <pHreaksYcle> wut
[23:55] <ENERGIZE> hello everyone i got two problems with my ubuntu 8.04 gusty
[23:55] <McShane> 8.04 is hardy
[23:55] <pHreaksYcle> lmao
[23:55] <pHreaksYcle> i was going to say
[23:55] <ENERGIZE> sorry
[23:55] <ENERGIZE> new to this
[23:55] <erUSUL> !encfs
[23:56] <deagle> beautifulsnow: thanks!
[23:56] <McShane> no worries, ENERGIZE :)
[23:56] <ENERGIZE> but now that i got your attention
[23:56] <deagle> i should ask google better next time :P
[23:56] <pHreaksYcle> lol
[23:56] <steve678> fixed in 084
[23:56] <ENERGIZE> everytime i boot up ubuntu i cant get a wireless connection
[23:56] <snowlapp> anyone know where I can find a gutenprint ppd file for a samsung ml-2510 printer?
[23:57] <blodski> pretty please, how do i do something simple as maximize a program running in a window?
[23:57] <Plugh> snowlapp: Have you gone to openprinting.org?
[23:57] <ENERGIZE> what i have to do is go to restricted drivers and disable and then enable the wireless STA
[23:58] <roadrock> blodski: running gnome? alt+f10
[23:58] <blodski> running default
[23:58] <blodski> whatever that is
[23:58] <pHreaksYcle> ENERGIZE: what wireless card/laptop
[23:58] <ENERGIZE> its a dell inspiron 6400
[23:58] <blodski> yep, thx
[23:58] <Jack_Sparrow> erUSUL thanks, I would not found sudo apt- myself since it is installed already
[23:58] <ENERGIZE> with a mini wlan
[23:58] <snowlapp> I was at a page on that site Plugh but the download link sent me to samsung's website which appeared not to have the ppd, but I'll search a bit on that site from the main page thanks :)
[23:59] <ENERGIZE> the 1390
[23:59] <pHreaksYcle> ENERGIZE: upgrade. inrepid works like a dream
[23:59] <pHreaksYcle> intrepid**
[23:59] <ENERGIZE> not sure what that is sorry