[04:37] <Billiard> leaf-sheep: you could put startx in rc.local
[04:37] <puff> Hokay.
[04:38] <eremite> draconis, the same intel chips work flawlessly on the same machine, windows boot.  On ubuntu boot all games lag, and its an intel driver issue that ubuntu is working on.
[04:38] <Blue1> puff: i've problems with firefox and flash....
[04:38] <Space-Wolf> okay so when I use devede what do I need to do?
[04:38] <Space-Wolf> turn it into an ISO?  DVd format?  DivX?
[04:38] <Space-Wolf> I tried some of those but it looked as if the file conversion was going to take at least an hour for one movie, is that right?
[04:38] <D_K_2> Space-Wolf convert it into dvd format and it should burn
[04:38] <Billiard> Space-Wolf: devede can make it an iso for you to burn to play in a dvd player
[04:38] <puff> Space-Wolf That sounds not unlikely.
[04:38] <junkyard> Kindly help!!!
[04:38] <D_K_2> Space-Wolf yeah converting takes a long time
[04:38] <leaf-sheep> Billiard: That could work. I will try it. Surely, that can't be the usual routine?
[04:39] <Space-Wolf> there's no way around it?
[04:39] <MrAntMan> it's not ubuntus fault that intel builds their chips to work with windows?
[04:39] <mezquitale> puff, can you run the utility and post the results here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/486207
[04:39] <Madpilot> eremite, this is wandering offtopic, but Win is hardly devoid of driver issues either, remember.
[04:39] <rance94> Billiard i found the problem i need java6 doc   how do i install that??
[04:39] <puff> Blue1: Hm, firefox is taking a while to close that last window.
[04:39] <D_K_2> Space-Wolf nah just convert it
[04:39] <puff> mezquitale: I will when I've tried a few more things.
[04:39] <Blue1> puff: what a minute if that doesn't try it, we'll try realkill (tm)!
[04:39] <Space-Wolf> okay, guess I'll have to be patient :P thanks a lot for the help guys
[04:39] <Billiard> leaf-sheep: you could put something in /etc/rc*.d but if its just one command you want to run on start i would use rc.local
[04:39] <D_K_2> Space-Wolf or buy/rent the movie and copy it
[04:39] <Space-Wolf> yeah
[04:39] <puff> Blue1: aka kill -9.
[04:39] <Space-Wolf> okay, thanks guys
[04:40] <rance94> Billiard i found the problem i need java6 doc   how do i install that??
[04:40] <mezquitale> puff, thanks, look at dmesg, you might find some clues there
[04:40] <Billiard> rance94: install it from the package manager?
[04:40] <D_K_2> Space-Wolf good luck
[04:40] <Blue1> puff: sudo pkill firefox
[04:40] <gorgonzola> hello. anyone here can help with latex? i can't figure out where to put bst files...
[04:40] <rance94> Billiard no because i need java to run the package manager how do i get it from the terminial
[04:40] <puff> Blue1:  pkill?
[04:40] <Guest79711> good morning
[04:40] <puff> mesquitale:  Yeah, nothing obvious in dmes.
[04:40] <Blue1> puff: process kill by name
[04:40] <Billiard> rance94: no you dont
[04:41] <leaf-sheep> Billiard: startx does not work. :o I'll try su to pass it off.
[04:41] <puff> Blue1:  Ah, one of them newfangled commands :-).
[04:41] <rance94> Billiard well where do i get it at
[04:41] <Billiard> leaf-sheep: rc.local is run by root
[04:41] <Blue1> puff: indeedy!
[04:41] <junkyard> I recently ran a update to my karmic koala ....    That does work. I was skeptic about /etc/rc.local but I think there are init-related file that you can pop it in ~/ and will read from it. ;)
[04:44] <Billiard> rance94: what is telling you need java for what
[04:44] <Blue1> puff: the biggest problems Ihave with flash and firefox are with facebook - the scrabble game uses flash - doesn't work all the time...
[04:45] <rance94> Billiard idk im confused I have the package manager up but now it wont download crap because it has to configure java6-doc thing and yeah idk
[04:45]  * Blue1 can't wait till html 5 -- bye bye flash
[04:46] <rance94> Billiard it is telling me i need to download the java JDK
[04:46] <rance94> Billiard so can i use terminial to get it
[04:46] <Billiard> rance94: what is telling you
[04:46] <rance94> the package manager when i try to download something
[04:47] <Billiard> rance94: what is the exact message
[04:47] <Blue1> puff: what's the verdict?
[04:48] <puff> Blue1:  Still get the amarok xine error, waiting to see if the flash plays properly.
[04:48] <puff> Blue1: Nope.
[04:48] <Blue1> puff: :-(
[04:48] <puff> Blue1: It plays the video fine, no audio.
[04:48] <puff> Time for a reboot I guess.
[04:49] <Blue1> puff: yup I get that sometimes -- sometimes doing a gdm restart will fix ru on 9.10?
[04:49] <trevor> im trying download getlibs packages and it keeps saying command not found
[04:49] <Blue1> puff: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:49] <Billiard> trevor what is the command you are trying
[04:51] <trevor> Billiard, sudo getlibs -l libnss3.so.1d
[04:51] <cpg> hi, i wonder if there is anyone around with PAM expertise. i am writing a script that needs to use PAM ... have some question ....
[04:51] <cpg> it will not let me change user
[04:51] <Billiard> trevor did you install getlibs?
[04:52] <trevor> i did
[04:52] <trevor> i think i did
[04:52] <rance94> billiard i cant copy and paste but it says: setting up sun-java6-doc (6-15-1)... This package is an installer package, It does not actually contain the JDK documentation. you will need to go download one of the archives: jdk-6u10-docs.zip jdk-6u10-docs-ja.zip (choose the non-update version if this is the first installation) please visit http://java.sun.com?javase/downloads/ now and download. The file should be owned by root.root and be
[04:52] <rance94> copied to /tmp [press RETURN to try again, 'no' + RETURN to abort] ------------ that is what it says
[04:52] <N-ether> Hello. I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my Toshiba laptop. My audio wasn't working because the realtek chip wasn't set, or something. (From what I hear online this is a common problem) I fixed the problem, but only temporarily it appears because my audio is no longer working. Can anyone walk me through a permanent fix for this???
[04:52] <Billiard> rance94: try         sudo apt-get clean
[04:52] <Billiard> trevor check
[04:52] <trevor> Billiard, you know, i might not have installed them for 64bit, do you know the command perchance?
[04:53] <Billiard> trevor sudo apt-get install getlibs
[04:53] <rance94> Billiard here is what happened ::  Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:53] <trevor> couldnt find package getlibs
[04:53] <rance94> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[04:53] <Billiard> rance94: close your package manager
[04:54] <Billiard> trevor you are running 64 bit?
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> Billiard, trevor getlibs isn't in Ubuntu repo!
[04:54] <rance94> billiard ok i closed it now do u wont me to try again
[04:54] <Billiard> ZykoticK9: what srsly, sorry trevor
[04:54] <Billiard> rance94: yeah try again
[04:54] <wolf23> Helpers! how can i play sega genesis in karmic?
[04:55] <ZykoticK9> trevor, get getlibs from http://frozenfox.freehostia.com/cappy/
[04:55] <rance94> Billiard k i think something happend but nothing happened in the terminial
[04:55] <Billiard> rance94: why do you think something happened then?
[04:56] <robbiet480> Hello I am running Ubuntu 9.04 on a Asus P5GC-MX/1333 with a eVGA 9800GT video card with HDMI (no audio) out to my Vizio VM60P TV. I just started using HDMI today after being on VGA (D-Sub) for the longest time. The only issue I have is that there is a purple discoloration on the screen. As far as I can tell from the forums, I need to specify a more specific modeline in xorg.conf that provides a refresh rate. Is this all correct?
[04:56] <rance94> idk lol i was being opptimistic
[04:56] <rance94> billiard i was thinkin positive
[04:56] <robbiet480> Also, how can I figure out what NVidia driver version I am using
[04:56] <wolf23> Helpers! how can i play sega genesis in karmic? can anyone tell me which emulator works fine?
[04:57] <trevor> ZykoticK9, ok lets see if this helped
[04:57] <puff> Blue1: I'm on jaunty.... I ended up having to reboot.
[04:57] <Billiard> wolf23: gens ?
[04:58] <wolf23> Billiard:  it is not on synaptic?
[04:58] <trevor> ok that didnt help, does anyone know how to install tweetdeck on ubuntu 64 but?
[04:58] <puff> Blue1: Amarok works now... I'm guessing flash will too.  still, it's dang annoying.
[04:58] <trevor> bit**
[04:58] <Billiard> wolf23: not sure
[04:58] <puff> Blue1: The fundamentla problem behind most sound issues is that at the kernel level ther's a single, irrevocable handle to the sound card resource.
[04:58] <puff> Blue1:  So alsa, etc, basically run a daemon that grabs the One True Resource Handle and hands out proxy handles.
[04:58] <lhx_> I'm on 9.10 and I'm having trouble playing a DVD... any suggestions? VLC won't play it...
[04:58] <Billiard> trevor getlibs didnt work?
[04:59] <Billiard> lhx_: install the restricted extras package?
[04:59] <puff> Blue1: If something happens to the One True Resource Handle for sound, it has to be rebooted to free it.  I've read list discussions saying they're working on fixing that at the kernel levle, no idea where it is.
[04:59] <trevor> they installed via the deb package, then i tried to isntall tweetdeck again and it didnt work
[04:59] <trevor> Billiard, maybe i should restart
[04:59] <lhx_> Billiard: already did... not sure why it's not working
[04:59] <Billiard> trevor didnt work? how
[04:59] <rance94> Billiard i think it is working now because im downloading wine and crap......... i need sun-java-doc because i dont have it and it says i need it.
[04:59] <gorgonzola> lhx_ you installed libcss2?
[05:00] <Billiard> trevor error or what?
[05:00] <lhx_> gorgonzola: not sure... let me fire up synaptic
[05:00] <gorgonzola> lhx_ wait, that's not the exact name...
[05:00] <trevor> Billiard, well from what i understand, to install on ubuntu 64bit you have to install the getlibs packages, i did install all so they should be there, but it just exits before install still
[05:00] <ChogyDan> !medibuntu | lhx_
[05:00] <memocell> selam
[05:01] <Billiard> trevor what exits before what installs when you do what?
[05:01] <gorgonzola> lhx_ libdvdcss2, is not in the regular repos, you can get it from medibuntu
[05:01] <songer> hello
[05:01] <memocell> hello
[05:01] <gorgonzola> lhx_ check for that, 'cause you need it for encrypted dvd playback
[05:01] <trevor> Billiard, the tweetdeck install exits before it finishes, i have adobe air installed, tweedeck is an adobe air application
[05:01] <lhx_> gorgonzola: ty... i guess decss isn't in the repos any longer?
[05:02] <jabbajabba> what is the best IRC client for Linux nowadays? I'm using Xchat for Gnome and don't care much for it
[05:02] <Billiard> trevor does it have an error message when you try to install it from command line?
[05:02] <ChogyDan> jabbajabba: try pidgin
[05:02] <lhx_> jabbajabba: irssi
[05:02] <ZykoticK9> lhx_, libdvdread4 IS in the repo and just downloads libdvdcss2 from medibuntu without having to add the repo
[05:02] <songer>  How has experience converting avi to dvd? what program es good for this
[05:02] <bastid_raZor> songer: devede
[05:02] <Billiard> songer: devede works, easy to use
[05:02] <Madpilot> jabbajabba, real xchat - not xchat-gnome - is far better than the -gnome version
[05:03] <lhx_> ZykoticK9: i think i've already got that installed which is why I'm confused
[05:03] <songer> what about  mandvd?
[05:03] <ZykoticK9> lhx_, did you run the sh command after install?
[05:03] <lhx_> ZykoticK9: no...
[05:03] <lhx_> but i do have libdvdread4 installed
[05:03] <memocell> xcxzc,
[05:03] <memocell> zxcx
[05:03] <gerrh^^> how many warnings are to be expected while compiling the current kernel?
[05:03] <Church> can anyone advise to which packages i should downgrade or to any patches so that i can start X on my u9.10 install with monitor switched off? IgnoreEDID option seems not working just like DPMS off, Enable option, specifying modes in monitor section :/
[05:04] <ZykoticK9> lhx_, install is useless without script -- which actually does the download / install -- searching internet, one moment
[05:04] <ZykoticK9> lhx_, run "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh"
[05:04] <lhx_> i'm reinstalling the .deb and wathcing console output
[05:04] <Church> from what i've googled out, proprietary nvidia drivers might have another three EDID related options, but i don't have such card here and i don't want to buy just/because
[05:04] <lhx_> ZykoticK9: thanks... i'll try it out in a second
[05:05] <dome> Anyone here running ubuntustudio?
[05:05] <lhx_> I don't get why it's such a PITA... licensing issues?
[05:06] <ZykoticK9> lhx_, of course...
[05:06] <Church> Madpilot: i prefer using xchat myself aswell for many years .. but i hate having to switch off systray icon now on ubuntu .. because it has tendency to dissapear after few days .. and then i don't know any means to restore minimised xchat app :/
[05:06] <sysadmin> anyone knows if there is any free plagiarism document checker application in ubuntu?
[05:06] <gorgonzola> lhx_ yup. libdvdcss2 is covered by the DMCA or something like that. its distribution is not always legal etc etc.
[05:07] <gorgonzola> lhx_ so... you have libdvdcss2, even if you didn't installed it by hand?
[05:07] <Madpilot> Church, I hate the systray thing for xchat, always disable it... an IRC client does not belong in my notification area.
[05:07] <lhx_> brb... going to log out log in for path updates
[05:08] <Church> Madpilot: i use only one gnome panel with everything, so i prefer to lessen ammount of stuff on it. including using xchat tray icon
[05:08] <trevor> ok im just giving up on tweetdeck for now
[05:08] <trevor> does anyone know why my system notification bubbles are appearing like a quarter of the way down the screen as apposed to the top where they should be?
[05:08] <lhx_> back
[05:09] <chea> hello. my question is as follows: if you have more gnome panels, would this make your pc perform less?
[05:09] <Church> even if it's 1600x1200 here and 1920x1200@home, i have uncorrectable habbits to maximise screen estate usuable by apps :)
[05:09] <chea> like i want to save as much as possible..
[05:10]  * Arnple says Hi
[05:10] <gorgonzola> anyone here understands how texlive is installed in ubuntu?
[05:11] <Arnple> Where is the Terminal profile settings stored?
[05:11] <lhx_> crap... not working... thanks for your help zyco... i have no idea what the issue is...
[05:12] <Billiard> Arnple: ~/.profile  ?
[05:12] <particlemann> I'm having a problem with fs-driver.org's thing, trying to read an ext3 hard drive on Windows XP
[05:12] <Madpilot> Arnple, you mean gnome-terminal?
[05:12] <particlemann> the config detects the Ubuntu partition as an ext3 drive
[05:12] <particlemann> and assigns it a drive letter
[05:12] <particlemann> but windows still sees it as unformatted
[05:12] <particlemann> whereas under Linux I can read it fine
[05:13] <particlemann> any ideas?
[05:13] <FloodBot4> particlemann: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:13] <gorgonzola> particleman: there's no solution to that. your ext is formatted with 128 bits while windows takes 64 or something like that. been there don't that :(
[05:13] <bastid_raZor> particlemann: try asking in ##windows
[05:13] <Madpilot> particlemann, pretty sure Windows can't grok ext3 without help...
[05:13] <Arnple> Madipilot: Yep
[05:13] <particlemann> well yeah...I installed the driver...oh
[05:14] <particlemann> so even though the solution worked at one point, it no longer does?  Is there a way to fix it in the formatting?
[05:14] <gorgonzola> particleman: there's some fundamental incompatibility which details i don;t remember, that make it impossible to acces newer ext partitions under windows, disregarding the driver. i tried with ext2fs extensively.
[05:14] <Billiard> particlemann: there is another ext3 fs for windows that i had better luck with
[05:14] <particlemann> which one?
[05:14] <Billiard> particlemann: sorry not sure, ill try googling
[05:14] <particlemann> thanks, and much appreciated
[05:14] <Arnple> Madpilot: Yep, gnome-terminal
[05:14] <gorgonzola> particleman: i understand that you have to specify a formatting parameter when creating the ext vollume in order to use some legacy mode that will work in windows.
[05:15] <Church> i wonder if there is some ext* driver for dokan lib (fuse for windows)
[05:15] <particlemann> I actually remember when the switchover happened, and I've been really confused for the past year or two :P
[05:15] <chea> hello. my question is as follows: if you add more than two gnome panels, does this decrease the overall performance (increase the memory allocated by the process)?
[05:15] <Mony> chea, yes, but you can't feel it :)
[05:15] <Billiard> particlemann: maybe its ext2fsd
[05:15] <leaf-sheep> chea: Decrease, yes.  In a big way, no.
[05:15] <Madpilot> Arnple, I don't actually think there is. No /.gnome-terminal, nothing under /.gnome/*
[05:15] <particlemann> chea-I don't think so, but turning on all the desktop effects definitely does
[05:15] <chea> Well I'm running with 256 sticks here.
[05:15] <dezine> I'm having a weird issue maybe some1 can help. Anytime I boot into Ubuntu my video card crashes and all I see is random colors on the screen. Doesn't do it with Windows, also was able to get into Fedora. Any clue what would cause this?
[05:15] <Church> chea: shared memory pages lessen that ammount for several instances of same executables/libs
[05:16] <particlemann> I'll try that, thanks
[05:16] <chea> Church: oooh interesting
[05:16] <chea> thanks
[05:16] <Church> dezine: check /var/log/Xorg.*.log
[05:16] <N-ether> Hi. I just installed 9.10 on my Toshiba and my sound isnt working. I looked online and found some terminal code that fixed it for a little whileand now it's not working. IDT it is detecting my sound card. PLEASE HELP. I need someone to walk me through a permanent audio fix!
[05:16] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> I want to install Xubuntu as a secondary os (for backup/recovery or emergency use) on an old pentium 3 system with 1 gig of ram, how much space do you think I should set aside for the os and for the swap partition? Im trying to use as little space as possible for it while still keeping it running decenly, I won't be using it much.
[05:16] <gorgonzola> particleman: maybe this is a good start? http://www.fs-driver.org/troubleshoot.html
[05:16] <Church> particlemann: rtfm first, as i don't know if there is .. i myself use dokan+sshfs
[05:17] <particlemann> dokan?
[05:17] <particlemann> gorgonzola-I checked the troubleshoot page, and it was pretty useless for what I'm going through
[05:17] <Church> oh. mistaken conversation thread :)
[05:17] <greezmunkey> N-ether, what was the terminal fix that worked?
[05:18] <N-ether> I cant remember... I think it was an ALSA update. and maybe some code that made alsa detect my realtek
[05:18] <Billiard> particlemann: yeah you could give ext2fsd.com a try i guess, not sure if it will work any better, and i dont know if i would trust it for writing
[05:18] <dezine> Thanks Church, will try that
[05:18] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> Anyone?
[05:19] <Kentoro> hello
[05:19] <Kentoro> can someone help me out for a minute in private
[05:19] <leaf-sheep> !ask | Kentoro
[05:19] <Kentoro> !ask
[05:19] <gorgonzola> particleman: sorry, i can't find the ref for what i was saying before. but i remeber that problem clearly, as the same thing happened to me: it was working in some distro, and then all win drivers started bailing...
[05:19] <Kentoro> !ask | Kentoro
[05:19] <Kentoro> lol
[05:19] <particlemann> oh hey
[05:20] <particlemann> Ext2fsd works!
[05:20] <particlemann> yay!
[05:20] <Billiard> particlemann: cool
[05:20] <particlemann> thank you!
[05:20] <Billiard> particlemann: np
[05:20] <gorgonzola> woa, that's good news :)
[05:20] <particlemann> yeah
[05:20] <particlemann> now I can restore my crap
[05:20] <Kentoro> im trying to install a game on my machine. Im brand new to linux and Im trying not to go back to windows. I am getting frustrated because  the game came with bin files and i have no clue
[05:20] <particlemann> and store my music (the main data I need to access from both partitions) wherever I want
[05:21] <gorgonzola> hope no one here knows how to get bibtex styles to work?
[05:22] <lhx_> ZykoticK9: dvd working! thank you... i just needed to remount the dvd for it to work
[05:22] <lhx_> gorgonzola: still no luck with your LaTeX issues?
[05:24] <Kentoro> I have scoured forums and tried a few things
[05:24] <Kentoro> not working
[05:24] <particlemann> hmm...if it's a Windows game, install wine first
[05:24] <gorgonzola> s/hope/guess/
[05:24] <Kentoro> I have wine and winetricks
[05:24] <leaf-sheep> Billiard: Any clue on why "su xbmc -c "synergyc --daemon --restart mps.local" wouldn't work in rc.local yet when I ran the command manually after sshing in... does?
[05:24] <particlemann> ok...did you install wine from synaptic, or from source?
[05:24] <ZykoticK9> Kentoro, what game?
[05:24] <Kentoro> source
[05:24] <particlemann> ohh...
[05:24] <Kentoro> runes of magic 2
[05:24] <Kentoro> it says specifically it works
[05:24] <Kentoro> but problem is, it says runes of magic 1 works and how to do it
[05:24] <particlemann> ok...someone may have to help me out here...if you install wine from Synaptic, it creates all the right associations automatically in Gnome-file-manager and whatnot
[05:24] <Kentoro> i couldnt find it in synaptic
[05:24] <Kentoro> wait
[05:24] <Kentoro> yes i did
[05:24] <Kentoro> I might have gotten it from synaptic
[05:24] <N-ether> greezmunkey: I cant remember... I think it was an ALSA update. and maybe some code that made alsa detect my realtek
[05:24] <Billiard> Kentoro: i would add the wine repo and install from the package manager
[05:24] <particlemann> ok...well the graphical way to do it is to open up the install cd in the file manager
[05:24] <Kentoro> but in the folder it came in, I try to run the bin files using wine and it says file not found or somthing
[05:24] <particlemann> oh
[05:24] <particlemann> hmm
[05:24] <flexible> hey i've opened two mediatomb servers, how do i close one?
[05:24] <Billiard> leaf-sheep: specify the whole path
[05:24] <Kentoro> how do I add the wine repo billiard
[05:24] <Kentoro> and package manager...thats heiroglyphics
[05:24] <Billiard> Kentoro: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[05:24] <leaf-sheep> Billiard: Oooh. You're right.
[05:24] <Billiard> leaf-sheep: that might be why xstart didnt work also, if it wasnt working before i think you said
[05:25] <leaf-sheep> Billiard: This is a different thing.
[05:25] <Kentoro> ok yeah Ive done that billiard
[05:25] <ZykoticK9> lhx_, nice :)
[05:25] <leaf-sheep> Billiard: Also, I'm thinking... if I already have included su <user>, I'm assuming that it already use the <user>'s path.
[05:25] <Kentoro> any other ideas on how to install the game
[05:26] <Billiard> leaf-sheep: i dont think it does
[05:26] <gorgonzola> lhx_ nope. the documentation is not particularly friendly. i'm just asking once in a while in the hopes someone who has got it working notices it.
[05:26] <Kentoro> I have a folder on my desktop and in the folder are like 5 .bin files
[05:26] <Kentoro> I dont know how to open them
[05:26] <Billiard> Kentoro: how would you do it in windows?
[05:27] <Kentoro> not sure, neever work with .bins
[05:27] <Billiard> Kentoro: they are just data files for the game probably, you dont use them yourself
[05:27] <Kentoro> alright, so that is what came with the game, there are no other files
[05:28] <Billiard> Kentoro: then the game isnt complete, if all there is is .bin's
[05:28] <Kentoro> ok
[05:28] <Kentoro> ill try redownload i guess
[05:28] <Kentoro> anyone know any good free to play mmo's that play well with linux
[05:30] <ZykoticK9> Kentoro, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_gaming#Massively_multiplayer_online_role-playing_games
[05:31] <freetown> where is skywalker...
[05:31] <dome> should I use vmware or sun virtualbox ?
[05:31] <freetown> kvm
[05:31] <freetown> :D
[05:31] <Dessan> lol
[05:31] <gorgonzola> in my experience, vmware is ubercool.
[05:31] <greezmunkey> Since we're temporarily on games, has anyone here been able to get python-poker-network to run properly?
[05:31] <gorgonzola> and i mean, OMFG THIS PROGRAM ROCKS cool.
[05:32] <gorgonzola> virtualbox is cool too :)
[05:32] <dome> lol ok
[05:32] <freetown> You should be ashamed of yourselves. You must use something NATIVE. kvm it is
[05:32] <dome> ill be runnign it on my win7 machine
[05:32] <dome> so KVM I cant use
[05:33] <gorgonzola> ne'er tried kvm
[05:33]  * freetown mumbles about Windows hypervisor support
[05:33] <gorgonzola> will do, next time i need to virtualize something.
[05:34] <dome> once I get used to ubuntu I will swap over to it. Only reason I stay on windows is because I play COD:MW2 and Counter-strike
[05:34]  * freetown wonders how wine fares with those...
[05:35] <leaf-sheep> Billiard: I can't figure out why this isn't working for me. Lack of X? Password prompt?
[05:35] <dome> ive looked into it. seems it isnt too bad. I am no sure about the newest games though
[05:35] <Billiard> leaf-sheep: what isnt working?
[05:35] <freetown> dome, what are they using now? DirectX20?
[05:35] <dome> lol 11 is the newest
[05:35] <dome> my card only supports 10.1
[05:36] <leaf-sheep> Billiard: su xbmc -c "/usr/bin/synergyc --daemon --restart mps.local"
[05:36] <devtrey> Sup cool kids
[05:36]  * freetown sticks of Phantasy Star Online
[05:36] <leaf-sheep> Billiard: There are also... su xbmc -c "startx" and that one works fine.
[05:36] <freetown>  s/of/to/
[05:36] <Billiard> leaf-sheep: try using the full paths
[05:36] <Billiard> leaf-sheep: for su
[05:37] <leaf-sheep> Billiard: I'm using the full paths. I only can execute it manually. When I do, it ask for password.
[05:37] <Billiard> leaf-sheep: /bin/su
[05:37] <leaf-sheep> Billiard: Yeah, but su xbmc -c "startx' worked (with no full path).
[05:37] <tck4> anyone here worked with formatting large  volumes? need some idea of how long it would take to format a 10TB volume with ext3
[05:37] <Billiard> leaf-sheep: id try it, idk
[05:38] <devtrey> tck4, that could take a while, I'd propose doing it overnight.
[05:38] <leaf-sheep> tck4: 3-4 hours. I'm guessing in my head based on 2TB.
[05:39] <devtrey> That's not that bad
[05:39] <devtrey> I haven't had a chance to try Karmic
[05:39] <devtrey> how is it?
[05:39] <leaf-sheep> devtrey: Functioning.
[05:39]  * freetown rotfl
[05:40] <gorgonzola> devtry, in my experience, the smoothest transition ever.
[05:40] <freetown> IF you are not using Kubuntu
[05:40] <devtrey> That's nice.
[05:40] <trevor> should i just install 32 bit, since 64 bit seems to have a few too many issues
[05:40] <tck4> with hardware raid controllers like dell's PERC, they have their own raid bios configuration that you enter during bootup with CTRL+R. if you configure say a raid5 volume with this, when you enter linux, it'll just show up as a single /dev/sda device?
[05:40] <tck4> haven't worked with hardware raid controllers before.. only software raid with mdadm.
[05:41] <devtrey> I haven't installed ubuntu in a while, been stuck in windows, and my last install is borked
[05:41] <freetown> tck4, some hardware raid controllers need drivers
[05:41] <leaf-sheep> trevor: What particular issues?
[05:41] <devtrey> So I hope that works.
[05:41] <devtrey> Also, trevor left
[05:41] <freetown> tck4, like 3ware, Areca, ...
[05:41] <leaf-sheep> devtrey: Oh. ;<
[05:41] <tck4> the dell perc is just a rebranded LSI controller.
[05:42] <freetown> there is a LSI megaraid driver in the kernel so I guess you should be okay
[05:43] <sharpen047> would anyone know why wine only has sound while playing intros but not after?
[05:44] <tck4> yeah lsi is pretty well supported
[05:44] <tck4> but linux will just see the raid5 volume as a single device (/dev/sda) right?
[05:44] <devtrey> That is how raid works
[05:45] <devtrey> so I assume yes
[05:45] <stephenahpohliss> hello
[05:45] <devtrey> hey
[05:45] <devtrey> sup
[05:45] <Mony> no /dev/sda, but /dev/mdX
[05:45] <Mony> but.. yes single partition :)
[05:45] <stephenahpohliss> does anyone have the palm pre?
[05:46] <tck4> isn't mdX only for softwre raid when using mdadm?
[05:46] <freetown> tck4, that is correct. nevermind Mony
[05:46] <stephenahpohliss> i heard that it is linux based..
[05:46] <Mony> ops did'n read that is for hardware raid
[05:46] <Mony> mdx is only for software raid
[05:46] <freetown> tck4, some drivers do create devices in some subdir in /dev though
[05:47] <Space-Wolf> if I'm using wubi, how do I check how much space I have left on my (30 gig) ubuntu virtual drive?
[05:47] <unkmar> df
[05:47] <devtrey> open up ubuntu
[05:47] <devtrey> and check
[05:48] <Space-Wolf> open ubuntu?
[05:48] <Space-Wolf> what, terminal?
[05:48] <Billiard> Space-Wolf: yeah
[05:49] <Space-Wolf> okay I did...it doesn't make sense to me
[05:49] <DoctorDan> hi all..
[05:49] <HilBilly> Space-Wolf ... use "df"
[05:49] <HilBilly> "df -h" even
[05:50] <devtrey> Why is it that #ubuntu is such a dick about proxies?
[05:50] <unkmar> HilBilly: you want it human readable.  Sheesh.  I thought frogs lived here. :P
[05:50] <freetown> devtrey, you mean freenode.net?
[05:51] <teamcoltra> devtrey, freenode.net will not let you join from mibbit
[05:51] <Madpilot> devtrey, Freenode has troll issues. Hence, proxies being blocked.
[05:51] <freetown> Madpilot, you need to pay before you can cross this bridge
[05:52]  * unkmar hides his club so as not to be id'd as a troll. :P
[05:52] <Madpilot> freetown, heh
[05:52] <DoctorDan> i want to download Ubuntu new release but my internet connection is d/c again and again .. i want to download it by Download Acceltr. but the problem is i need a downloading path for that and on the website there is no downloading path ... like *.exe
[05:52] <devtrey> no, #ubuntu-proxy-users
[05:52] <somename> bittorrent might be best
[05:53] <HilBilly> DoctorDan ... you can use bittorrent
[05:53] <devtrey> which seem srather silly
[05:53] <DoctorDan> HilBilly can u give me the downloading link
[05:53] <HilBilly> look on isohunt.com
[05:53] <gabez> quick question--what is the ubuntu equivalent of kickstart for standardizing installs?
[05:53] <DoctorDan> okies
[05:54] <devtrey> what is kickstart?
[05:54] <HilBilly> imagine .. using bittorrent for legal downloads!
[05:54] <devtrey> gasp
[05:54] <unkmar> gabez: do you mean aptitude or apt-get?
[05:54] <Dessan> say its not so
[05:55] <gabez> no, i mean - briefly. have 6 machines, i want the same software installed (after the CD puts everything in), same partition scheme, same user ids etc
[05:55] <gabez> at boot time
[05:55] <freetown> devtrey, kickstart is a Redhat thing. You want to learn d-i
[05:55] <Madpilot> DoctorDan, http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ has your raw download paths
[05:55] <unkmar> last time I used a kickstart was a off-rode motorbike.
[05:55] <gabez> is there a way to automate these installs?
[05:55] <gabez> d-i ?
[05:55] <FireCrotch> !preseed | gabez
[05:55] <gabez> ah, m23
[05:55] <Mony> gabez, do they have eq hdd?
[05:55] <freetown> hahaha
[05:55] <gabez> !m23
[05:55] <unkmar> gabez: oh, I hand roll those thigns.  but, whatever.
[05:55] <gabez> no...
[05:55] <Mony> i mean really the same
[05:55] <freetown> somebody please teach the bot about preseed
[05:55] <gabez> so imaging is not an option
[05:55] <FireCrotch> Oh ubottu, you have failed me once again
[05:55] <gabez> looks like m23 might work
[05:56] <gabez> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M23_software_distribution_system
[05:56] <N-ether> Hi. I just installed 9.10 on my Toshiba and my sound isnt working. I looked online and found some terminal code that fixed it for a little whileand now it's not working. IDT it is detecting my sound card. PLEASE HELP. I need someone to walk me through a permanent audio fix!
[05:56] <gabez> gotta run!
[05:56] <gabez> ciaoz
[05:56] <freetown> gabez, how about fai?
[05:56] <freetown> ...
[05:56] <devtrey> gabez, how about leaving before we help you
[05:56] <Mony> hahaha
[05:56] <Mony> :D
[05:56]  * HilBilly sits here sipping on his dehydrated water.
[05:57] <randomuser> instant water
[05:57] <randomuser> ...just add water
[05:57] <HilBilly> N-ether ... what was the terminal fix?
[05:58] <HilBilly> Well .. I started my teapot .. and then got on irc ... needless to say, it evaporated.
[05:58] <shentino> I've actually had dehydrated water myself
[05:58] <N-ether> i dont remember. it was an alsa update and i think it made alsa detect my realtek sound card
[05:58] <Mony> N-ether, alsamixer, then check if something is muted
[05:59] <Mony> if it doesn't show more then one lvl then type
[05:59] <Mony> alsamixer -c 0
[05:59] <HilBilly> hmmm ... ubuntu should have installed the drivers for realtek
[05:59] <HilBilly> I had some issues with alsa not saving my sound state ...
[06:00] <HilBilly> I resolved that by removing the speakers.
[06:01] <greezmunkey> hmm take the H20 out of H20, and you get...less H20?
[06:01] <N-ether> mony: i already un muted everything
[06:02] <ubuntu> hi
[06:02] <freetown> :O
[06:02] <freetown> ubuntu is alive!
[06:02] <freetown> hi ubuntu
[06:02] <ubuntu> How do I backup GNOME Terminal profile settings?
[06:02] <Mony> hah
[06:02] <ubuntu> freetown: Hi!
[06:02] <edoceo> ubuntu: cp ?
[06:02] <somename> which package has the netbeans c++ addon
[06:03] <musty> has anyone noticed that the ubuntu x86 and the ubuntu amd64 iso's do not fit on a CD ? but require a DVD ?
[06:03] <ubuntu> edoceo: Location of the files?
[06:04] <musty> has anyone noticed that the ubuntu x86 and the ubuntu amd64 iso's do not fit on a CD ? but require a DVD ?
[06:04] <musty> has anyone noticed that the ubuntu x86 and the ubuntu amd64 iso's do not fit on a CD ? but require a DVD ?
[06:04] <Madpilot> musty, no need to repeat.
[06:04] <songer> I need your help, whre que I download pytube? because I already installed it with ubuntu instaler But it dosn't work
[06:04] <musty> Madpilot, ok.
[06:04] <Madpilot> the ISOs I downloaded were 690-something MB, that fits fine on a 700MB CD...
[06:04] <somename> mine "fat" on a normal cd
[06:04] <DoctorDan_> Madpilot.. i need path for *.iso
[06:05] <spridel> correct
[06:05] <greezmunkey> yup
[06:05] <Madpilot> DoctorDan, scroll down on that page I gave you
[06:05] <musty> Madpilot: well, it looks like "mine" are 707mb.
[06:05] <ubuntu> arghh: The nick I'm using is always mentioned!
[06:05] <musty> Madpilot, x86 or x86-64?
[06:05] <Madpilot> musty, x86 here
[06:05] <N-ether> Hey! my audio doesnt work! can anyone help?? its not muted!
[06:05] <ubuntu> How do I backup GNOME Terminal profile settings?
[06:05] <ubuntu> How do I backup GNOME Terminal profile settings?
[06:06] <Bizkit> any of you use ubuntu 9.10 remix?
[06:06] <ubuntu> I use Super Ubuntu (Super OS)
[06:06] <Madpilot> DoctorDan_, http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso should be what you want - it's right at the top of that page...
[06:06] <Slart> musty: where did you download them from? and have you checked the md5sums? is it regular plain old ubuntu? or kubuntu/xubuntu?
[06:06] <edoceo> ubuntu: it's very rude to bogart the channel by repeating yourself
[06:07] <ubuntu> bogart the channel?
[06:07] <ubuntu> Humpherey Bogart?
[06:07] <edoceo> You can use `lsof` to see which files GNOME terminal has open - an thereby which you should copy
[06:07] <musty> Slart, multiple servers. I haven't checked against md5sums, plain ubuntu.
[06:07] <ubuntu> edoceo: I'll try that
[06:07] <musty> 689 MB (723,488,768 bytes) for x86.
[06:07] <Madpilot> musty, sounds right.
[06:08] <N-ether> i have no audio! any help???
[06:08] <devtrey> Isn't it a bit ironic that Floodbot is flooding the channel
[06:08] <musty> Hmm
[06:08] <Slart> musty: sounds correct to me? that one doesn't fit a cd for you?
[06:08] <somename> Does the kde version get the same security updates as normal ubuntu from the same source?
[06:08] <somename> how official is it
[06:08] <Slart> somename: afaik, yes
[06:08] <musty> Slart: Apparently not.
[06:09] <Madpilot> somename, yes, Kubuntu gets the same updates and uses exactly the same repositories
[06:09] <edoceo> somename: I've noticed a few hour lag between package updates on Kubuntu
[06:09] <devtrey> Yes
[06:09] <Slart> somename: ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu uses the same kernel and so on.. only difference is KDE/Gnome/XFCE
[06:09] <devtrey> No, I use the KDE kernel
[06:09] <somename> ok i might try it
[06:09] <musty> I think the next best thing for me to do is make my own cd burning client for windows
[06:10] <musty> All of the ones made available are made by stupid people in stupid languages
[06:10] <musty> For financial retribution
[06:10] <musty> Let's see how this goes.
[06:10] <unkmar> musty: CDXP Burner Pro
[06:10] <Slart> !burniso | musty
[06:10] <musty> unkmar, That's what I used, moron.
[06:10] <s_p_or_t_o> musty: imgburn?
[06:10] <IdleOne> !attitude | musty
[06:10] <Madpilot> musty, be polite.
[06:10] <Slart> musty: no need for name calling
[06:10] <musty> Slart: I'm not learning how to burn image files, smarty pants.
[06:10] <Dessan> moron?
[06:10] <devtrey> That;s not very nice, musty
[06:10] <musty> Jesus Christ, how many people want to talk to me at once.
[06:11] <unkmar> musty: oh, that is what I used until I stopped using windows.
[06:11] <musty> devtrey, I apologise most sincerely
[06:11] <musty> unkmar, Well, it's a no go.
[06:11] <musty> I hate Windows, everything about it pisses me off, I can't even code functionally on it
[06:11] <musty> I want to destroy it
[06:11] <musty> Make it unusable for every living soul
[06:11] <IdleOne> !ot
[06:11] <musty> I cannot comprehend why on earth anyone would use such a thing.
[06:12] <Dessan> Well musty please let us know when you find a solution acceptable to you.
[06:12] <IdleOne> musty: this is not a bash Windows channel
[06:12] <devtrey> !ubuntu
[06:12]  * leaf-sheep want to write a "identify-&-rename" script so he can see "WinLol" whenever people say Windows in IRC. :3
[06:12] <Gallop2> !nfs
[06:12] <bash4windows> bash windows
[06:12] <Slart> musty: if you check the link you'll find that they list a couple of cd burning apps for different systems on that page.. perhaps one of them works better than the one you're using now
[06:12] <bash4windows> or bash 4 windows :P
[06:12] <devtrey> !ubuntu | Kill the jews
[06:12] <devtrey> Dohoho
[06:12] <musty> E 07:12:20 Failed to Write Sectors 94080 - 94111 - Reason: Write Error
[06:13] <Madpilot> devtrey, nowhere near funny.
[06:13] <musty> W 07:12:00 Failed to Write Sectors 94080 - 94111 - Reason: Write Error
[06:13] <IdleOne> nope
[06:13] <devtrey> Yeah
[06:13] <devtrey> I noticed
[06:13] <musty> ...
[06:13] <greezmunkey> devtrey = fail
[06:13] <IdleOne> as a matter of fact he should be banned
[06:13] <unkmar> musty: not all CD or DVD burners are teh same.  apparently some software won't work on some of them.
[06:13] <devtrey> That's nice to know
[06:13] <unkmar> musty: what are you trying to accomplish.
[06:14] <Dessan> Also musty quite often the CD media it self it at fault.
[06:14] <musty> unkmar, Murder.
[06:14] <devtrey> the floodbots need to stop flooding
[06:14] <musty> Dessan, Yes.
[06:14] <musty> I'll brb.
[06:14] <oxigen> hi all, where can i get .img file instead of .iso for my netbook? is it available at all?
[06:15] <Dessan> oxigen, what are you trying to do?
[06:15] <tsimpson> oxigen: why do you want a ".img"?
[06:15] <_ged> hi, in the command "export" how will i know the list of my variable in a common shell?
[06:15] <oxigen> install it from usb
[06:15] <devtrey> last time i used img files, I was burning to a floppy
[06:15] <tsimpson> !install | oxigen
[06:15] <Jordan_U> !unr | oxigen
[06:15] <leaf-sheep> !usb | oxigen
[06:15] <devtrey> !windows
[06:15] <devtrey> I guess not
[06:16] <Slart> oxigen: I'm not quite sure about this but can't you just rename a img-file to .iso ? isn't one of them a special case of the other one?
[06:16] <oxigen> Slart: hm, is it really so?
[06:16] <devtrey> iso's are more for cd's
[06:16] <devtrey> so they might have some differences
[06:16] <devtrey> dunno
[06:17] <Jordan_U> Slart: oxigen: An iso is a disk image, but most bootable isos cannot be simply dd'd to a usb drive and still boot
[06:17] <ekkehart> what does "Read error at 25114/123/34 (lba=403464192)" mean in testdisk?
[06:17] <unkmar> iso9660 standard for CD's.
[06:17] <unkmar> if I remember properly.
[06:18] <fred321> hi room. do i just toss in my question or what?
[06:18] <unkmar> determines all kinds of layout structure about CD's and such.
[06:18] <osirisx11> i'm trying to boot UNR from USB cd drive, I get nice initial boot menu but refuses to boot from any option, acts like it is trying to, fails silently
[06:18] <edoceo> ekkehart: bad sector
[06:18] <Jordan_U> fred321: Yu, just ask away
[06:18] <edoceo> fred321: yes
[06:18] <unkmar> fred321: yep.  ask away.
[06:18] <fred321> cthnx
[06:18] <Slart> oxigen: have a look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMG_%28file_format%29
[06:18] <ekkehart> edoceo : thanks
[06:18] <fred321> im about to try 1st install, ubuntu 9.10
[06:18] <osirisx11> this is on an asus eee 8g
[06:18] <fred321> im curious if it will see my sata on my intel p45 mobo
[06:19] <tkmsr> how do u install sqlite on ubuntu
[06:19] <microlith> fred321: should
[06:19] <unkmar> fred321: without problems.
[06:19] <edoceo> tkmsr: aptitude install sqlite || aptitude install sqlite3
[06:19] <fred321> asus did not have any drivres for the northbridge for linux, just audio and lan
[06:19] <oxigen> Jordan_U: the problem is that i can not use imagewriter on my 8.04, so i need .img file :/
[06:19] <tkmsr> do I need to install both
[06:20] <tkmsr> sqlite and sqlite3
[06:20] <microlith> fred321: anything intel tends to have good linux support
[06:20] <hateball> I'm trying to get panu working with my netbook/phone, but it doesnt. I'm not sure where I should start looking?
[06:20] <microlith> save a few graphics drivers
[06:20] <tkmsr> have look on this page http://theplana.wordpress.com/2007/05/11/install-sqlite3-on-ubuntu/
[06:20] <fred321> ok thats encouraging
[06:20] <edoceo> tkmsr: depends on what you want to do
[06:20] <Jordan_U> oxigen: I think that the unr image can simply be dd'd to a usb drive
[06:20] <tkmsr> gem install sqlite3-ruby
[06:20] <theblue> Hi all.
[06:20] <tkmsr> is giving me errors
[06:20] <theblue> Is it possible to mount a fatx partition in ubuntu?
[06:20] <edoceo> tkmsr: you should pastebin the errors so the room can see && help
[06:21] <fred321> is 24gb enough room for a full featured app set?
[06:21] <tkmsr> ok just a second
[06:21] <oxigen> Jordan_U: ok, i'll try that
[06:21] <microlith> fred321: plenty by a large margin
[06:21] <fred321> very good
[06:21] <unkmar> fred321: I run with less.  depends on what you want.
[06:21] <s_p_or_t_o> quick silly question, i have 9.10 desktop installed with steam linux server's on it (left4dead, tf2) would i just need to change to run level 3 to work in a non-graphical mode (trying to sqeeze a little more from the desktop)
[06:21] <fred321> i left 24gb free on my xp install
[06:21] <fred321> was thinking of linux at thetime
[06:22] <fred321> ubuntu can see ntfs correct?
[06:22] <tkmsr> http://pastebin.com/d63016fa1
[06:22] <microlith> read-only, yes
[06:22] <manug> fred321 -- that is plenty
[06:22] <fred321> ahhh
[06:22] <tkmsr> above are the errors I pastbinned them
[06:22] <Madpilot> fred321, 24GB is plenty. Use 5-10GB for /root, the rest for Linux /home
[06:22] <microlith> there -is- a read-write driver using "FUSE" but it's easier to just maintain a fat32 partition somewhere
[06:22] <Madpilot> fred321, and you can mount your Windows partitions for file access to them
[06:22] <manug> fred321 and yes, ubuntu can read ntfs, although you could just format to something elsee
[06:22] <hateball> s_p_or_t_o: are you looking to make a permanent change, or just for now? you can just hop to tty1 and issue "service gdm stop" if so
[06:23] <fred321> i have 650gb on my xp install, lots of media on there
[06:23] <tarski> it can read & write ntfs
[06:23] <dada216> Hi chan, got a quick question
[06:23] <s_p_or_t_o> hateball: not perm, just for a nite
[06:23] <freetown> with the ntfs-3g fuse driver
[06:23] <theblue> i found a kernel patch to support fatx, but i don't know how to install it.
[06:23] <Madpilot> dada216, just ask, don't ask to ask!
[06:23] <dada216> fred321 yes it reads and write OK windows partition, I dual boot since years
[06:23] <theblue> what steps should i take to build/compile/install?
[06:24] <fred321> ok thnx
[06:24] <ThatGuyOverThere> Does anybody have experience with Ubuntu on the PS3? That would be amazing.
[06:24] <s_p_or_t_o> hateball: thx
[06:24] <Jordan_U> !boot | s_p_or_t_o
[06:24] <manug> theblue -- what are you trying to install?
[06:24] <leaf-sheep> fred321: I use 20GB SATA HDD for system. Any other gigantic HDDS for media. ;)
[06:24] <ThatGuyOverThere> I've tried getting the wifi to work with just general Ubuntu knowledge, but no luck. :(
[06:24] <theblue> manug: http://pennsyvlania.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=919423
[06:24] <dada216> theblue: you should check the git utility for downloading the source, than compiling depends on flavour and version
[06:24] <fred321> i've been looking at linux for 10 years, will probably actually try to install thistime
[06:25] <osirisx11> i'm trying to boot netbook remix from USB cd drive, I get nice initial boot menu but refuses to boot from any option, acts like it is trying to, fails silently
[06:25] <tkmsr> edoceo: any guesses what should I do
[06:25] <manug> fred321 -- you should, it's fun! =)
[06:25] <eremite> Ubuntu One question -- How do I sync from my Ubuntu One folder to the web? I figured out Tomboy sync, but not normal.
[06:25] <Madpilot> fred321, the Desktop CD lets you play with it before you install - it's a LiveCD, which is very cool.
[06:26] <fred321> mad i almost tried that out, may do it yet
[06:26] <musty> hmm the 32 bit boots on one computer and not on the other.
[06:26] <musty> Let's see.
[06:26] <manug> theblue -- sorry, i can't help with this one (can't find instructions) -- hopefully someone will be able to answer
[06:26] <greezmunkey> If I want to create a user for my girlfriend, can I eliminate access to sudo, but still have the installed applications, FSpot, and such still work for her?
[06:26] <edoceo> tkmsr: I don't use the gem tool - try using the standard ubuntu tools
[06:27] <theblue> manug: hmm.
[06:27] <freetown> musty, NO! You cannot be the proud owner of an Itanium can you?
[06:27] <musty> freetown, nope.
[06:27] <hateball> ThatGuyOverThere: For me, wifi worked ootbh since 8.10 on the PS3...  Then suddenly it stopped working. Now it doesn't work even on a clean install no matter which distro I'm using.
[06:28] <musty> Has anyone done USB installation/boots or whatever
[06:28] <tarski> musty, yes it works great
[06:29] <ThatGuyOverThere> I've tried Jaunty, Fedora 11, YDL 6.2, Karmic, back to Jaunty, tried Karmic again...
[06:29] <[BIOS]dnivra> seems the discussion is based on networks; was wondering if anyone faced problems connecting to dsl?
[06:29] <microlith> I loaded 9.04 on my aspire one via usb
[06:29] <ThatGuyOverThere> It's a nightmare.
[06:29] <musty> tarski, Do you have a paper leading to one
[06:29] <freetown> i have seen usb boots get in the way...(no bootable stuff on the usb key)
[06:29] <theblue> musty: i recommend Unetbootin.
[06:29] <eremite> Ubuntu One question -- How do I sync from my Ubuntu One folder to the web? I figured out Tomboy sync, but not normal.
[06:29] <Valkyrie``> Hullo.  Got a question for folks.
[06:29] <manug> eremite -- just use dropbox (kidding, sort of)
[06:29] <tarski> musty, a paper?
[06:29] <bazhang> musty, unetbootin
[06:29] <dada216> Kernel compiling question -- I recompiled the kernel and installed it, works fine but forgot an option in menuconfig so i did it again but the second .deb has the same name as the installed one, does this mess things up if I dpkg -i  ?
[06:29] <musty> nevermind.
[06:30] <manug> musty, what do you mean a paper
[06:30] <maco> dada216: no thats fine
[06:30] <talsemgeest> eremite: Start up Ubuntu one, and log in. It should do it for you
[06:30] <leaf-sheep> eremite: You looked at https://one.ubuntu.com/ ?
[06:30] <tarski> unetbootin ++
[06:30] <musty> manug, forget it
[06:30] <fred321> does ubuntu have decent support for games [quake III arena]
[06:30] <tarski> fred321, download Wine
[06:30] <freetown> enemy territory?
[06:30] <freetown> :-D
[06:31] <songer> I Need a tutorial to share files between ubuntu and windows en dual boot is it posible?
[06:31] <manug> fred321, i think there is a native version of quake iii arena for linux
[06:31] <Valkyrie``> I'm not booting from the new Ubuntu install.  Getting an error 15.  Edited a number of files but still can't get it to boot.
[06:31] <eremite> I've got Ubuntu One open, Im logged in and my tomboy notes are syncronized fine.  However, the .txt files in the Ubuntu One folder are not uploaded to my Ubuntu one account.
[06:31] <dada216> enemy territory should have native client right?
[06:31] <manug> fred321 -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/QuakeIIIArena
[06:31] <musty> Buying new CDs each time something goes wrong is becoming expensive
[06:31] <Valkyrie``> Anyone able to talk about grub2?
[06:31] <musty> Not that I've bought that many
[06:31] <talsemgeest> eremite: Have you started the ubuntu one client?
[06:31] <eremite> dada216: Wold ET does
[06:31] <bazhang> Valkyrie``, have you read the wiki
[06:31] <Slart> songer: ubuntu can read ntfs-partitions so you can read your windows files from ubuntu
[06:31] <manug> musty -- that's why usb install is great =)
[06:31] <eremite> talsemgeest: yes, it's open and connected.
[06:31] <musty> manug, You're a clever one.
[06:32] <bazhang> !grub2 | Valkyrie``
[06:32] <dada216> eremite: what?
[06:32] <fred321> is wine under linux going to be as fast as xp pro?
[06:32] <Valkyrie``> Right.
[06:32] <tarski> songer, ubuntu recognizes windows partitions
[06:32] <manug> fred321 -- it depends on the game
[06:32] <talsemgeest> eremite: Try add another file. It should pop up with a notification saying "Syncronising files now"
[06:32] <eremite> dada: I meant Wolf ET.
[06:32] <manug> fred321 generally it will probably be a bit slower, but some games run VERY well on wine
[06:32] <Valkyrie``> I've read a lot and done a lot of editing of various files, but I still can't get it to boot.
[06:32] <Slart> fred321: most of the time.. no .. but that's not a limitation in wine itself
[06:32] <Valkyrie``> I'm running on the live CD now.
[06:33] <dada216> Unreal Tournament does too, if I remember correctly
[06:33] <manug> fred321 -- look at this page for some well supported software http://appdb.winehq.org/
[06:33] <tarski> warcraft run on Wine, that's all I care about :)
[06:33] <Slart> fred321: check the application database to get an idea of how well a certain app runs  http://appdb.winehq.org
[06:33] <bazhang> Valkyrie``, explain what you are trying to do, what you have done and what errors you have gotten
[06:33] <lazure> ok, i have an intuos3 tablet, i can't get pressure sensitivity to work. does anyone know what i gotta do to make my tablet work?
[06:33] <manug> slart -- i said it first =))
[06:33] <eremite> talsemgeest: I just added a .xml file and nothing happened.
[06:33] <lazure> i tried getting something called wacomcpl, but it doesn't detect the tablet
[06:33] <Slart> manug: =)
[06:33] <fred321> got it
[06:34] <tarski> my fps underwine is lower though than in XP when im running WoW
[06:34] <eremite> talsemgeest: Ubuntu One says "your files are up to date" but they are not online.  Only the Tomboy notes are.
[06:34] <[BIOS]dnivra> does any oen have any problems connecting to DSL from karmic?
[06:34] <dada216> winxp games under win I am doing better than ever (wine and cedega) with virtual box non-free with 3d acceleration and guest addition, Age Of Mythology is running just fine at near native speed
[06:34] <fred321> should i prep the available partition in windows or let ubuntus installer do it?
[06:34] <talsemgeest> eremite: One sec, lemme fire up my laptop, do some testing
[06:35] <Oddbio> Is this some kind of sick joke by microsoft?!  trying to install silverlight  http://img25.yfrog.com/img25/4585/silverlight.jpg
[06:35] <rohdef> in Software Center, how are you supposed to mark all updates and install them?
[06:35] <[BIOS]dnivra> i create the connection, it asks for user name and password(is this a new karmic feature?) and then goes connecting.... and disconnects
[06:35] <eremite> talsemgeest: awaiting paitentially.  Thanks.
[06:35] <tarski> dada216, whats the point of paying for cedega, isn't it the same core code as Wine?
[06:35] <manug> fred321 -- i think ubuntu's installer can take care of this
[06:35] <songer> tarski, thanks and sorry for my ignorance
[06:35] <hateball> ThatGuyOverThere: sorry not much help, havent bothered installing again since I changed PS3 :/
[06:36] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> this is odd, xubuntu is showing that I have 21 gigs of unpartitioned space
[06:36] <tarski> songer, np we are all n00bs
[06:36] <leaf-sheep> Does anybody know what package are used to display emblems on icons in Nautilus Bookmark?
[06:36] <talsemgeest> eremite: Ok, so the ubuntu one tray icon says "Connected"?
[06:36] <eremite> talsemgeest: yes
[06:36] <Valkyrie``> I am trying to boot my new Ubuntu install on the drive that shows up as /dev/sdc1.  I have consistently gotten error 15 on grub loading.  I went in and edited etc/grub.d/40_custom to include where the drive actually is.  It didn't update boot/grub/grub.cfg, so I went and manually added that...
[06:36] <sobol66> DOMATOR
[06:37] <eremite> talsemgeest: actually, now it says "connecting" but the red warning is gone.
[06:37] <bazhang> moonlight-plugin-mozilla for the browser Oddbio
[06:37] <dada216> I did it to gave money to the developer, performance was the same but the UI is better
[06:37] <dada216> tarski: I did it to gave money to the developer, performance was the same but the UI is better
[06:37] <bazhang> !pl | sobol66
[06:37] <talsemgeest> eremite: To be honest this seems like a bug
[06:38] <fred321> logitech has no drivers for linux. how is mouse suport?
[06:38] <songer> I want to download video from youtube in mp4 I already try it  with tytube but Y dosn't work
[06:38] <talsemgeest> fred321: Very good
[06:38] <eremite> talsemgeest: let me disconnect, close up and restart everything.
[06:38] <talsemgeest> eremite: Ok :)
[06:38] <songer> also with avidemux
[06:38] <Slart> fred321: it's fine unless you want to record macros and stuff with one of them fancy gaming mice.. but all the basics work nicely
[06:39] <Valkyrie``> So any guesses as to what I'm missing?
[06:39] <tarski> dada216, so altruistic of you!
[06:39] <Oddbio> bazhang: it doesn't work. I'm trying to view a page actually made by microsoft, so I'm sure they try to make sure your running the real silverlight.
[06:39] <fred321> heh i have a gaming mouse with 10 buttons
[06:39] <beig> my china
[06:39] <dada216> fred321: I have never seen a mice not playing with the penguin ;)
[06:39] <Oddbio> bazhang: but did u look at the image?
[06:39] <bazhang> !cn | beig
[06:39] <bazhang> Oddbio, moonlight is for Ubuntu
[06:39] <dada216> tarski: I had the spare money at the time, good for karma too
[06:39] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> My motherboard sees a 160 gig hdd as 136, no surprise, it dosen't support lba48. Hoever, when I started windows xp setup (an odl disk that also dosen't support lba48) it partitioned of 131 gigs, my entire hdd as far as it was conserned...... then I tried a xubuntu livecd and it says that I have 21 gigs unpartitioned..... whats going on? Shouldent xubuntu only see like 4 or so gigs left?
[06:40] <sshc> Valkyrie``: see warning in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 ; you need to use supergrub (not a live session) to boot into your normal installation and purge grub-pc with "apt-get purge grub-pc" (or purge grub2 if that's what you installed), and then "apt-get install grub2", even if you previously installed grub-pc.  Don't run any upgrade-grub commands after the reinstallation.
[06:40] <osirisx11> USB drive removal process: "eject", "unmount", or "safely remove"? what's the difference?
[06:40] <bazhang> Valkyrie``, did you try sudo update-grub
[06:41] <eremite> talsemgeest: it says "connecting" when i hover the tray icon, but there is the option to disconnect when I left click it.  It also says "all your files are up to date".  Only my notes work.  This seems like a bug indeed.
[06:41] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: no linux doesent rely on the bios to see the hdd so it  can see all the space
[06:41] <chikmonk> help
[06:41] <talsemgeest> eremite: Yeah, it does. I would suggest you report it :)
[06:41] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> I see
[06:41] <osirisx11> chikmonk: just ask
[06:41] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> sowould it be safe to use all of that space for linux?
[06:42] <Slart> osirisx11: unmount is to .. well.. unmount the file system on the usb stick.. it will flush out anything in the buffer and so on.. eject might be for cd's and such that physically has to be ejected.. safely remove I'm guessing is the same as unmount
[06:42] <leaf-sheep> To be more specific, I'm sure those running Karmic have emblems on common folders, I have this --> http://tinyurl.com/yg2fznh -- I'm trying to find out which package is required for that.
[06:42] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: yea i did it way back in the day on a 40gb when my bios only saw 32
[06:42] <maco> Slart: um there is no unmount command
[06:42] <osirisx11> Slart: so it is a bug then? there should not be duplicate functions. it is confusing.
[06:42] <maco> leaf-sheep: it's umount
[06:42] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> ok
[06:42] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> In that case
[06:42] <maco> Slart: ooooooo hehe you dont mean command line
[06:42] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> I was using uxunbu because it had lower sys resuirements
[06:42] <dada216> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: no 160GB hdd is too old to not suport lba48, my best guess when you installed win somehow it left the space unpartitioned, 131 GB + 21 GB = roughly 160 GB which seems correct.
[06:42] <Slart> osirisx11: where do you see this?
[06:42] <Slart> maco: hehe.. nope =)
[06:43] <osirisx11> Slart: context menu of removable drive
[06:43] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> im wondering if I should just switch to ubuntu
[06:43] <chikmonk> please help me
[06:43] <maco> osirisx11: yes it is duplication. unmount and safely remove are the same. eject should only show on optical drives and means it opens the tray as well
[06:43] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> dada: my motherboard dosen't support lba48
[06:43] <osirisx11> Slart: nautilis
[06:43] <bazhang> chikmonk, ask a question
[06:43] <leaf-sheep> maco: umount? You're talking about something else?
[06:43] <gogeta> dada216: it was seeing extra space question
[06:43] <maco> leaf-sheep: umount is the command line name
[06:43] <maco> leaf-sheep: sorry i was trying to talk to Slart before whoops
[06:43] <gogeta> windows uses what the bios see
[06:43] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> Its a Pentium 3 system with 1 gig of pc133 sdram, would you recommend I stick with xubuntu or do with ubuntu?
[06:43] <osirisx11> maco: this drive is a sd card
[06:43] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> go with*
[06:44] <Slart> osirisx11: hmm.. indeed.. I get both unmount and "safely remove" as well.. perhaps there is some small difference
[06:44] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: normal ubuntu works on my dell laptop with the same specks
[06:44] <maco> osirisx11: yeah so it should only have one option. i know this is a known weirdness cuz well...my roommate and i are both devs and scratching our heads at it
[06:44] <bastid_raZor> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: i had the exact scenario 3 years ago. 320GB drive seen as 137 by windows but ubuntu saw it all. was the reason i switched to ubuntu.
[06:44] <ericsean> hi, i am on ubuntu 8.04 and have version 0.12 of a library. is there a nice way to get version 0.13 of a library from a new ubuntu distribution without having to upgrade (on a VPS so I can't)
[06:44] <varadero> are there any utility we can see wich devices working properly or wich device has problem via gui ?
[06:44] <osirisx11> maco, Slart: which should i use?
[06:44] <untitled> hello, one question, why init compains about terminating gdm on startup? I don't even have gdm installed
[06:44] <maco> osirisx11: any will work
[06:44] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> Well, I have an sata/ide card in here to bypass that for my other storage drives
[06:44] <untitled> ubuntu 9.10
[06:45] <maco> osirisx11: its just a stupid broken interface that's had the 2 of us laughing for a couple weeks
[06:45] <Slart> osirisx11: I'm guessing any will work.. if anything I think "safely remove" might be a little more safe in some hidden, secret way =)
[06:45] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> Would ubuntu run as well as xubuntu on that system? what about when using cpu or gpu intensive tasks?
[06:45] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: the easy to see all space on unsupported bios is make multi partations
[06:45] <musty> Trying for a usb bootup sequence
[06:45] <dada216> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: I see, than it should be safe to use the space only linux sees but booting that partition could be a problem if MB does not see it.
[06:45] <Valkyrie``> Thanks guys, I'll try some of this stuff.
[06:45] <syrius> ubuntu keeps on getting better I really like the new version 9.10 I like the new icons but I prefer the Darkroom theme better
[06:45] <osirisx11> maco, Slart: ok thanks.. i am concerned because i think i hit the wrong one before and it disassociated my reader, so it did not work again until i rebooted
[06:45] <Dallas> Hey guys, I'm in 9.04 and I'm trying to listen to my music in rythmbox. It tries to search for smil decoder but can't find one. Is there a repository I need to add or something to get this to work?
[06:46] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> dada216: would grub be able to take care of that?
[06:46] <syrius> only few problems happen in upgrade such as the ubuntu software center icon not showing up but I fixed that problem
[06:46] <syrius> :)
[06:46] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: some hdds come with tools or boot loader to bypass bios limits to
[06:46] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> planning to install it since its going to be a multiboot system
[06:46] <gogeta> for windows
[06:46] <ProLoser> hello
[06:47] <ProLoser> i just installed ubuntu 9.10 and it's not detecting my wireless networks
[06:47] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> I dont need to bypass the limit for windows
[06:47] <chikmonk> exit
[06:47] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> the old hdd was 120
[06:47] <chikmonk> shutdown
[06:47] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> I just got this one to replace it because they dont make 120 anymore
[06:47] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: linux does it at the kernel level so it does not have that issue
[06:47] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> and figured I would dualboot linux with the xtra space
[06:47] <Slart> osirisx11: then I would go with unmount .. that should only affect the file system.. not the usb device itself
[06:47] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: that will be fine
[06:47] <dada216> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: possibly, if you install it in the windows partition I guess but this already sounds like system unbootable, be very careful backup backup backup
[06:47] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> If I could get xp installed that is >.<
[06:47] <tarski> Dallas, what type of file are you trying to play? mp3, etc
[06:47] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> I JUST backede up everything
[06:48] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> atm it has a blank hdd im about to install xp on
[06:48] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> If the installer would work that is >.< but thats another issue
[06:48] <gogeta> dada216: his system is fine its just extra unseen space by windows he whants to use
[06:48] <ProLoser> where can i figure out the reason that my wireless network isn't being picked up automatically?
[06:48] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> heres hoping the installer dosen't freeze again....
[06:48] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: thought it was one with windows on it
[06:49] <Dallas> tarski: they're mp3's
[06:49] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> it dosne't have anything on it atm
[06:49] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> im trying to get xp installed
[06:49] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> its a new hdd
[06:49] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> I took out the old os drive
[06:49] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> which had win2k on it
[06:49] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: if you wanna use the extra unseen space install windows first
[06:49] <FloodBot3> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:49] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> yeah I know, thats what im trying to do
[06:49] <Dallas> If I hover over them in browser they play?
[06:49] <Dallas> lol. wth
[06:49] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> Windows is giving me a hard time though XD
[06:49] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: check the hdd is set to master
[06:50] <musty> Elite, it works.
[06:50] <musty> Fucking CD's I tell you
[06:50] <dada216> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: than if I were you I'll bet on ubuntu installer taking care of it after windows install, and if it is left unbootable play with the location where you install GRUB.
[06:50] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> Its set to cable select, I set all 4 of them to cable select
[06:50] <musty> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt, Windows is giving you a hard time?
[06:50] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> but  only have one of them connected atm
[06:50] <osirisx11> does anyone know of any boot-time encryption supporting plausible deniability?
[06:50] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: yea but it needs the master setting
[06:50] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> musty: the installer actually, yeah XD
[06:50] <ProLoser> i used to have wireless networks getting detected just fine when i ran ubuntu 6.10
[06:50] <dada216> gogeta: I agree Cyber system is fine
[06:51] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: or the xp disk will feez
[06:51] <Juvo> guys, i know this isnt an ubuntu question, but i was hoping somebody could help me out with this
[06:51] <Juvo> http://articles.slicehost.com/2008/4/29/ubuntu-hardy-apache-virtual-hosts-1
[06:51] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> Nah, it WAS freeing, but I fixed that
[06:51] <gogeta> k
[06:51] <Juvo> any nice sysadmins? =)
[06:51] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> was either a bios issur or the disk was dirty, optimized my bios and cleaned the disk :)
[06:51] <HilBilly> Cyber_Akuma-Lapt does bios see the new hard drive?
[06:51] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> Now its freezing AFTER install at the "Detecting hardware" stage XD
[06:51] <Oddbio> does wine come with a small internet explorer program anymore? I can't find it... also would it be possible to install silverlight on it??
[06:51] <tarski> dallas, but rythmbox wont play them?
[06:51] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> yeah it does, as 136gb
[06:52] <osirisx11> Juvo: i've set up vhosts on slicehost on jaunty
[06:52] <Dallas> tarski: nope, and amarok crashes when I try it
[06:52] <fred321> if i install a 32 bit version now, can i change to 64 bit version later?
[06:52] <HilBilly> can you boot up in ubuntu with that drive installed?
[06:52] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> Course, I have a LOT of expansion cards installed atm, thats probably whats causing the crash
[06:52] <freetown> fred321, yes
[06:52] <bazhang> fred321, yes with a full reinstall
[06:52] <Dallas> I'll try it again and see if I can get a code out of it.
[06:52] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> Such a hassle to remove them all though
[06:53] <fred321> will the 64bit linux still be able to use winxp ntfs files?
[06:53] <fred321> 32bit winxp
[06:53] <talsemgeest> fred321: Yes
[06:53] <tarski> Dallas, you need to download the codecs, amarok wont offer to download them for you
[06:53] <fred321> oh goody
[06:54] <fred321> thnx to all who replied, bbl if i think of more Qs
[06:54] <Alvin> hi everyone
[06:54] <freetown> hi alvarezp
[06:54] <talsemgeest> Hey Alvin :)
[06:54] <freetown> i mean Alvin
[06:54] <Alvin> lol
[06:54] <DoctorDan> Madpilot.. i need a downloading path for *ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[06:54] <Dallas> Tarski: I thought I had the ones I needed. Where would I get this smil codec?
[06:54]  * freetown blames the tab key
[06:55] <brianherman> anybody know how to use squid the cache daemon
[06:55] <indus> hello
[06:55] <Madpilot> DoctorDan, dude, I gave you one. And a link to the page it was found on...
[06:55] <freetown> i know how to use squid the proxy daemon
[06:55] <Alvin> anyone know why when i choose the 2.6.31-15-generic on grub, then load kernel firs message show up?
[06:55] <brianherman> oh
[06:55] <tarski> dallas, sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[06:55] <Madpilot> DoctorDan, http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso once again
[06:56] <DoctorDan> Madpilot // i was d/c at that time.... i lost the link please,
[06:56] <DoctorDan> thanks Madpilot
[06:56] <Madpilot> DoctorDan, http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ is the page I sent
[06:56] <Alvin> at the first time, the update broke my grub
[06:56] <Alvin> so i have to boot manually using grub sh
[06:56] <brianherman> freetown: can you help me with this  config http://paste.lisp.org/display/90995
[06:56] <r00tintheb0x> Alvin, stop using unsupported repos.
[06:56] <hackoo> I want to make the entry of fedora in the grub of ubuntu 9.10 but I could not see menu.lst in /boot/grub.
[06:56] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[06:56] <MaWaLe> morning falks
[06:57] <Alvin> 2.6.31-15 is unsuported?
[06:57] <indus> hackoo: in 9.10 there is no menu.lst
[06:57] <indus> !grub2 | hackoo
[06:57] <MaWaLe> how can i setup the login screen so it will not show the logins?
[06:57] <hackoo> ok
[06:57] <indus> MaWaLe: you mean auto login?
[06:58] <indus> hackoo: so you need to add it to /etc/default/grub i think
[06:58] <Alvin> lol i choose the repo from server list on the software source
[06:58] <MaWaLe> no indus : i want to let the user type manually the login and not having the list shown
[06:58] <DoctorDan> Madpilot can we compile a *.c in Ubuntu ..
[06:58] <indus> hackoo: read that link i gave
[06:58] <Dallas> Tarski: You have saved my life!
[06:58] <Alvin> i'm not adding the repo manually
[06:58] <indus> MaWaLe: hmm not sure what that means
[06:58] <Madpilot> DoctorDan, I'm the wrong person to ask about compiling - I never bother!
[06:58] <hackoo> indus: ok thanks
[06:58] <Dallas> Tarski: Maybe exageratting, but thank you
[06:58] <Alvin> so i thought it's official repo
[06:59] <tarski> Dallas, yw
[06:59] <MaWaLe> indus:  with the new gdm, on the logging screen you have the list off all available logins no ?
[06:59] <Dallas> Now, does anyone know how I can get my win7 box to share the damn printer with my ubuntu 9.04 laptop.
[06:59] <hackoo> I have fedora and ubuntu both whose grub should be better grub2 or grub ?
[06:59] <Dallas> It's already shared, but it can't find it
[07:00] <MaWaLe> indus: so i want to deactivate this and let it be like the old GDM : the user have to type manually his login and next the password to launch his session
[07:00] <Merlin_> What is the Xchat home channel again?
[07:01] <Alvin> btw, anyone have tried the chromium os?
[07:01] <dada216> maco: I just reinstalled the second kernel (same name as previous one) and dkms says the modules already exist, is that supposed to be so?
[07:01] <erin> i'm getting "unable to mount motorola pcs rokr z6 (mtp mode)" when i plug in my razr.  any suggestions of how to connect to my phone?
[07:01] <yoshx> hello
[07:01] <dada216> Alvin: is it out already? I didn't even knew
[07:02] <maco> dada216: oh boo. yeah dkms wont rebuild extra drivers if the kernel version isnt bumped. if there was no ABI change in your rebuild, its not a problem though
[07:02] <Alvin> dada216: i guess, it's chromiumos-<IP_ADDRESS>
[07:02] <tophu> I have ubuntu 9.10 on an HP laptop with a built in wireless card that is not supported in aircrack-ng so I purchased a usb wireless card that is ... is there any way to install separate drivers for the new wireless card without messing up the built in card?
[07:02] <maco> dada216: no i dont know how to tell if the ABI changed
[07:03]  * Sememmon is starting to get very annoyed with audio in karmic
[07:03] <osirisx11> does anyone know of any boot-time encryption supporting plausible deniability?
[07:03] <andres_>  /join #ubuntu-es
[07:04] <dada216> maco: I know, It didn't, I copied it from another release. no problem thou as they're practically identical.
[07:05] <freetown> brianherman, wait, let me just check what the settings should be for a transparent proxy
[07:05] <brianherman> freetown: thats like a mirror right?
[07:06] <Sememmon> evil, evil pulseaudio..
[07:06] <dada216> Alvin: yes it's a pre pre release, just for developers bla bla bla, as always, some marketing....I'm on it :)
[07:06]  * Sememmon stabs it.
[07:06] <freetown> brianherman, er...not quite
[07:06] <brianherman> freetown:what should i use then
[07:06] <freetown> squidly, caches content locally but it is not necessarily a mirror
[07:06] <freetown> oops
[07:07] <brianherman> oh thats perfect
[07:07] <freetown> brianherman, what do you want to achieve?
[07:07] <freetown> okay
[07:07] <brianherman> just a cache of the content updated daily
[07:07] <freetown> brianherman, and without having to setup proxy settings on browsers?
[07:07] <Alvin> dada216: is it good? i already finished building it last night, how much space that it use for usb?
[07:07] <brianherman> freetown:yes
[07:07] <tophu> I have ubuntu 9.10 on an HP laptop with a built in wireless card that is not supported in aircrack-ng so I purchased a usb wireless card that is ... is there any way to install separate drivers for the new wireless card without messing up the built in card?
[07:08] <DoctorDan_> gcc is in ubuntu
[07:08] <dada216> I like to have my karmic boot screen let me see all what is doing, like in the old day whit the list of boot operation, anyone knows how to do that or any boot splash theme that shows this?
[07:08] <freetown> brianherman, what version of squid do you have there?
[07:09] <maco> dada216: remove "quiet splash" from your grub config and itll show the text
[07:09] <dada216> Alvin: you just made me aware of it existence, I am looking for the source download link and instructions
[07:09] <MaWaLe> dada216: just edit the menu.lst of your grub and delete all "quite" words
[07:09] <brianherman> freetown 2.7 stable
[07:09] <Alvin> lol
[07:09] <brianherman> freetown: 2.7 stable 6
[07:10] <tophu> is there a way to customize the boot screen like different background for login screen and such?
[07:10] <tophu> cause that would be cool
[07:10] <Alvin> dada216: beware, it's around 3-4gigs, i have to resize my partition >.<
[07:11] <tophu> pre load my background as the background for the login screen would look tight
[07:11] <Billiard> tophu: you can, its not that cool though lol
[07:11] <dada216> maco: dear god I love you guys! I never figured it out in years
[07:11] <dada216> MaWaLe: dear god I love you guys! I never figured it out in years
[07:11] <kcj1993> can anyone help me with geany, the compile build and execute buttons are greyed out.
[07:12] <dada216> Alvin: I ask you :) does it looks good? so big?!? it's not just the source than...
[07:12] <maco> kcj1993: ive never used geany but my first guess would be that you need to save the file before you can click those
[07:12] <kcj1993> ok
[07:12] <Alvin> dada216: idk, havent tried it yet. Now im confused which one of my usb stick that i should format o_0
[07:12] <kcj1993> Thanks
[07:13] <musty_> Did anyone have any issues intially with ubuntu 9.10 wireless?
[07:13] <tophu> ok I already love this xchat irc client
[07:13] <Alvin> dada216: the source itself is around 231mb tar.gzed
[07:13] <taofd> musty_, wireless has worked great for me
[07:13] <musty_> hmm.
[07:13] <musty_> taofd, brodacom?
[07:13] <taofd> musty_, i have to say, connectivity is extremely easy in karmic
[07:14] <taofd> musty_, intel, broadcom wired
[07:14] <dada216> Alvin: just curios: the rest is all software or what?
[07:14] <musty_> taofd, ok
[07:14] <maco> musty_: itll probably vary by hardware. my intel is dandy, but my roommate's atheros was really slow til he installed linux-backports-modules
[07:14] <taofd> musty_, yeah broadcom is not really linux friendly
[07:14] <dada216> Alvin: yeah just approx the size of linux kernel
[07:14] <tophu> when someone says "tophu: blah blah" it auto highlights it in red ... and it marks with a line where I left off int he convo when I alt+tab to FF or rhythmbox ^_^ thank you ubuntu comunity for making such an awesome OS
[07:14] <kcj1993> tophu: me to i only found out about irc 2 days ago
[07:14] <musty_> I just don't get the "Wireless Network" on my nm-applet
[07:15] <Alvin> dada216: the rest is when you create local repo and adding the package for chromium os. I thought it's debian based hmm..
[07:15] <tophu> kcj1993: does it auto highlight for you too??
[07:15] <maco> musty_: check system -> administration -> hardware drivers
[07:15] <maco> musty_: sounds like you dont have the driver installed
[07:15] <musty_> maco: It says there are none.
[07:15] <maco> tophu: really i think you want to thank xchat developers for that
[07:15] <kcj1993> tophu: yep nice and red
[07:15] <Juvo> guys so when apache does this
[07:15] <Juvo>  Reloading web server config apache2
[07:15] <Juvo> without an [ok]
[07:15] <Juvo> what does that mean
[07:15] <FloodBot3> Juvo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:16] <musty_> well, this was a test install, I'll reinstall anyway.
[07:16] <maco> musty_: can you put the output of "dpkg -l bcmwl*" on paste.ubuntu.com?
[07:16] <osirisx11> for anyone else interested in plausible denaibility encryption, this looks pretty awesome http://code.google.com/p/beerbottle/
[07:16] <maco> musty_: you said broadcom right?
[07:16] <musty_> maco: blah blah blah: bcmwl-modalias <IP_ADDRESS>+bdco Modaliases for the Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA
[07:17] <tophu> yea but it's not just xchat ... it's everything about ubuntu ... been messing with it since 7.1 and since 8.04 things have really been comming together so nicely... 9.10 is now the only OS installed on my laptop so I can learn it full time when I'm not at home ... plus the old box in the corner running it as a little server
[07:17] <maco> musty_: ok so it says its insalled
[07:17] <kcj1993> tophu: did you know you can look at all the channels by going to server>list of channels and hitting the download button
[07:17] <musty_> maco: Yeah, I just don't see it in my nm-applet.
[07:17] <maco> musty_: just try "sudo aptitude reinstall bcmwl-modaliases bcmwl-kernel-source"
[07:17] <tophu> kcj1993: yup but this is the only channel I really go to on this server
[07:17] <kcj1993> tophu: agreed
[07:18] <mobi-sheep> Having issues with cryptsetup... I tried to open a partition and now I'm getting "Command failed: Can't open device: /dev/sdb1" -- "fdisk -l" displays the partition fine.  Anyone want to take a crack at this one?
[07:18] <maco> musty_: the driver apparently doesnt get rebuilt if you install updates and the driver without rebooting in between
[07:18] <tophu> even just to sit back and watch and learn ^_^
[07:18] <kom9> cew_maco
[07:18] <freetown> brianherman, you cannot just make squid listen on port 80
[07:18] <musty_> maco: Ah, I need an ethernet connect on that laptop, only have wireless inet.
[07:18] <musty_> When I get ethernet setup, I'll come back
[07:18] <maco> musty_: ok actually
[07:18] <maco> musty_: no need
[07:19] <maco> musty_: use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure bcmwl-modaliases bcmwl-kernel-source" and im told that should work too
[07:19] <brianherman> freetown: i get a problem with the acl also
[07:19] <tophu> ooo that reminds me of another question I had ... it's not raelly an issue cause of how fast ubuntu shuts down but there is some error on shutdown about compiz (only shows up for less than a sec before shutdown) how can I check this error?
[07:19] <musty_> I can't do it now, until I go to work.
[07:19] <maco> musty_: i *know* reinstall works. one of the other devs said dpkg-reconfigure should work too though when i was talking to him about it
[07:19] <musty_> bcmwl-kernel-source isn't installed
[07:20] <freetown> brianherman, you need to make squid listen on another port and redirect http traffic to squid
[07:20] <greezmunkey> osirisx11, beerbottle...It's almost as if the filesystem is virtualized or something.
[07:20] <maco> musty_: oh. alright well when you get online, get that installed too
[07:20] <t0rc> how do I get from gnome to a TTY and then get back to gnome?
[07:20] <freetown> brianherman, the acl is another can of worms...what do the logs say?
[07:20] <musty_> maco: will do; I'll come back later and find you -- thanks.
[07:20] <osirisx11> why is there a "skip" button on the Installing System dialog?? i think the things it is doing are rather critical
[07:20] <maco> t0rc: ctrl+alt+f1 to TTY then ctrl+alt+f7 to gnome
[07:20] <maco> musty_: ill likely be asleep later...its about 230am here
[07:20] <teamcoltra> Umm... every time I reboot my machine... it gives me an fstab error but it goes away too quickly for me to see what it says... I would assume thats not good and I would want to fix that?
[07:20] <musty_> maco: Eh, its 8:20am here.
[07:20] <brianherman> freetown: FATAL: Bungled squid.conf line 11: cache_peer_access myAccel deny all
[07:21] <musty_> maco: well, whatever the case is, I'll find you.
[07:21] <teamcoltra> Something like fstab .... failed to mount.....
[07:21] <osirisx11> greezmunkey: yes, i really like how truecrypt works for windows boots, i wish they would support linux
[07:21] <greezmunkey> osirisx11, pretty bizzare - wouldn't think that would be possible.
[07:21] <t0rc> maco, thanks
[07:21] <Reactor> teamcoltra: sdo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:22] <Reactor> teamcoltra: sudo*
[07:22] <tophu> is there something like the eventviewer in windows for linux that would allow me to see errors that occur for less than a second before shutdown?
[07:22] <teamcoltra> Reactor, yes... but that doesn't help since I don't know what I am looking for
[07:22] <musty_> Sigh, no coding today then.
[07:22] <Reactor> teamcoltra: maybr sudo mount?
[07:22] <Billiard> tophu: could check the syslog maybe
[07:22] <Reactor> teamcoltra: maybe*nd then
[07:23] <Reactor> teamcoltra: and then paste an error msg from console
[07:23] <Gratz474> can anyone tell me what editor this is ?
[07:23] <Gratz474> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vhxo2oL70E&feature=related
[07:23] <tophu> Billiard: thanks ^_^
[07:24] <r0n1n0x47> hello all
[07:24] <maco> Gratz474: kate, maybe
[07:24] <Reactor> !hello | r0n1n0x47
[07:24] <Gratz474> wow i should have read the comments i am an idiot
[07:24] <Gratz474> maco: yes it is kate
[07:25] <teamcoltra> Reactor, http://paste2.org/p/529708
[07:26] <freetown> brianherman, does the all acl exist?
[07:26] <Reactor> teamcoltra: hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[07:26] <brianherman> freetown: thats all i have
[07:26] <Reactor> teamcoltra: give me yr fstab
[07:26] <teamcoltra> and i have / on /dev/sda1 /homo on /dev/sda5 and swap on /dev/sda6
[07:27] <teamcoltra> ... err... home"
[07:27] <teamcoltra> ::P I don't have any homos on my device ;)
[07:27] <tophu> ok guys wife says time for bed lol have a great night all!!
[07:27] <teamcoltra> http://paste2.org/p/529709 Reactor
[07:27] <mditto> After an update, my wifi doesn't work with WPA any more.  How can I diagnose WPA or figure out what the update did and undo it?
[07:28] <freetown> brianherman, there should be a line starting with 'acl all ...'
[07:28] <freetown> brianherman, those six lines are it?
[07:28] <teamcoltra> mditto, I had this issue: Try sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-karmic-generic
[07:28] <brianherman> freetown:yes
[07:28] <freetown> oh
[07:28] <mditto> teamcoltra: I'll try, thanks
[07:29] <Alvin> btw anyone here using U3 usb stick?
[07:30] <freetown> brianherman, add 'acl all src <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>'
[07:30] <maco> Alvin: ugh, what about them?
[07:30] <osirisx11> i am strongly considering moving tmp to tmpfs (ram drive), does anyone have any suggestions or reasons against doing this?
[07:30] <mditto> teamcoltra: "Couldn't find package..."
[07:30] <osirisx11> (for SSD, eee netbook)
[07:30] <maco> osirisx11: sometimes when you need to put a LOT in /tmp, you could run out of memory
[07:30] <mditto> oh, I guess I have to connect to a network... heh
[07:30] <Alvin> maco: if i accidentally format the u3 system partition, can i recover that partition?
[07:31] <teamcoltra> mditto, you are using karmic right?
[07:31] <maco> osirisx11: like if you're ripping a DVD
[07:31] <Alvin> maco: the chromium os i want to move to usb need me to format the entire sdb, not sdb1
[07:31] <welcome> hi ! i m new to ubuntu. i m using ubuntu 9.10 kk . everything worked fine. i have a lg 19" display. the display is to extreme right and the left side is blank.
[07:31] <mditto> I don't know, it's a brand new Dell A90n, Ubuntu 8.04
[07:31] <osirisx11> maco: its a tiny computer with no onboard optical drives, thank you for your concern though
[07:31] <maco> Alvin: you managed to get rid of the U3 crap? without downloading the u3 remover tool? i didnt think it COULD be removed outside of Wndows
[07:31] <brianherman> freetown:cool
[07:31] <Alvin> lol
[07:32] <cviorel> hi!
[07:32] <greezmunkey> I've noticed that some keyboard shortcuts require a Meta key, what is that?
[07:32] <Alvin> maco: ic
[07:32] <teamcoltra> mditto, so you are not updated to karmic yet
[07:32] <Alvin> maco: no worry then
[07:32] <teamcoltra> Try updating to karmic first
[07:32] <maco> Alvin: seriously, i stopped using one flash drive just because i got tired of it doing stupid things on Windows and mounting as both a flash drive & a CD on linux & mac
[07:33] <cviorel> does anyone know how to get rid of the 'One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted:' message during bootup?
[07:33] <Andy1978> Alvin: U3 can often be restored using the MPT of the cip vendor
[07:33] <mditto> teamcoltra:  I guess Dell stays with LTS release, which would be fine with me if it works :)
[07:33] <Alvin> Andy1978: hmm
[07:33] <Andy1978> Alvin: For example Transcend or OCZ ATV Sticks uses Alcor chipsets
[07:33] <Alvin> Andy1978: ty
[07:33] <teamcoltra> Yeah... upgrade to the latest client
[07:33] <brianherman> freetown: how do i tell if its downloading
[07:33] <teamcoltra> and it will probz fix any problem you are having
[07:34] <Andy1978> Alvin: try searching on flashboot.ru
[07:34] <teamcoltra> ooor go search the forum there may have been a patch
[07:34] <psypher246> hi all, got a small question about java on karmic, if java is supposed to be installed with ubuntu-restricted-extras why does my java not work?
[07:34] <Slart> !java | psypher246
[07:34] <cfedde> welcome: under system and preference is a display tool.  That might be of some help to ou.
[07:34] <mditto> teamcoltra: OK, thanks
[07:34] <Slart> psypher246: I don't remember if the ubuntu-restricted-extras is supposed to have java or not
[07:34] <Alvin> Andy1978: thx a lot andy
[07:34] <psypher246> everywhere i read, including the ubuntu software center says it is
[07:35] <welcome> i m new to ubuntu & just installed UBUNTU 9.10 KK. everything worked fine. but there is a issue with display. i have LG 19" FLATRON display & m unable to c extreme right of the screen. pl help.thnx in advance
[07:35] <Andy1978> welcome: did you try pressing "AUTOSET" on your LCD?
[07:35] <teamcoltra> mditto, you should be able to do it via the update manager
[07:35] <welcome> there r no such buttons
[07:35] <psypher246> Slart: i mean i don;t mind sinatlling it separately but there is a bug then
[07:35] <landry> welcome:  have you tried auto adjusting your monitor
[07:35] <Alvin> maco: yea and i never use it though
[07:35] <teamcoltra> just change your settings from long term release to nromal
[07:35] <psypher246> Slart: installing*
[07:35] <osirisx11> this netbook remix is REALLY slick.. i like.. :D
[07:35] <teamcoltra> System -> Admin -> Software Sources
[07:35] <greezmunkey> Well, that was a stupid question, meta = alt ...
[07:35] <cfedde> welcome: under system and preferences there is a display tool.
[07:36] <Alvin> maco: miss good ol usb stick that have hardware write lock
[07:36] <wenko> welcome: its the AUTO/SET button to the left of the power button
[07:36] <welcome> thnx Andy it worked
[07:36] <landry> welcome: is there a menu button?
[07:36] <welcome> thnx a lot
[07:36] <Slart> psypher246: hmm.. it does mention java.. odd
[07:36] <welcome> landry : it worked
[07:36] <wenko> welocome, you're welcome <drum kick>
[07:36] <Andy1978> welcome: glad to help
[07:36] <landry> sorry, i'm slow...
[07:37] <wenko> anyone able to tell me how to change the drag-and-drop behavior in 9.10 from copy to move?
[07:37] <psypher246> Slart: also states it should be there: acrore
[07:37] <Slart> psypher246: but it only depends on sun-java6-plugin .. isn't that just some web browser stuff? perhaps the JRE is a different beast.. I'm not too familiar with java and its different parts
[07:37] <mditto> teamcoltra: Software sources doesn't seem to list that option.  Tabs are Updates, Third-Party Software, and Authentication
[07:37] <psypher246> no
[07:37] <psypher246> http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:37] <psypher246> Slart: hmm, maybe
[07:38] <landry> wenko:  have you tried left dragging?
[07:38] <welcome> I installed Wine to run a window based accounting system " TALLY" .Everything worked fine. But when i open the application ..i get the error DEBUGGER DETECTED [304].pl guide.thnx
[07:38] <psypher246> Slart: could be jre is diff to plugin, but yeah same alos not sure the diff parts, i would think it's all one thing
[07:38] <indus> welcome: running tally?
[07:38] <wenko> landry: I can, yes, but I would like to change the default behaviour
[07:38] <Alvin> omg
[07:38] <welcome> indus :  yyeah
[07:39] <indus> welcome: iam not sure if it works in wine
[07:39] <indus> welcome: write to the devs for a linux version :)
[07:39] <Alvin> the chrome bash script formatted my usb stick into 2 part of 1gig partition, where's my 7gig space?
[07:39] <welcome> indus : i was able to install tally. but cud nt run tat application
[07:39] <teamcoltra> mditto, you have a query from me
[07:39] <landry> wenko:  how about ctrl drag?
[07:39] <Slart> Alvin: chrome bash script?
[07:39] <Andy1978> welcome: this is a protection agains reverse engeneering/cracking
[07:39] <psypher246> slart: not sure whet the plugin gives you then, cos just having that installed and going to jave site still fails java test
[07:40] <indus> welcome: try gnucash
[07:40] <welcome> indus : there r few people using linux in india
[07:40] <Alvin> Slart: yeah
[07:40] <forkcap> welcome: Do you have "winetricks" installed? it gives you a menu to install many supporting DLL/libraries which can improve WINE compatibility with windows apps.
[07:40] <indus> welcome: i know ,
[07:40] <wenko> landry: yes, that too, but again, I want to change the default behaviour of drag and drop
[07:40] <Alvin> Slart: the move_to_usb.sh
[07:40] <welcome> forkcap.: i dont have
[07:40] <Slart> psypher246: you can always report a bug on launchpad..
[07:40] <psypher246> yeah will do, thanks
[07:40] <landry> wenko:  sorry...  I've never wanted to change the default :(
[07:40] <welcome> indus : how is gnucash..hav u tried tat
[07:41] <Alvin> Slart: i mean image_to_usb.sh
[07:41] <sharpen047> could someone help me with wine sound? i can get sound for an intro, but not after that, only been this way since the removal of pulseaudio
[07:41] <Slart> Alvin: never heard of it.. is it for building chrome? or something else?
[07:41] <wenko> landry: I do appreciate the suggestions
[07:41] <indus> welcome: iam trying ,but iam not an acoountant
[07:41] <welcome> indus: wil it match indian accounting standards
[07:41] <forkcap> welcome: it's in the repositories, I believe. might be worth installing the .NET runtime, VB stuff, etc through winetricks. have you googled for "wine tally linux" yet for solutions?
[07:41] <Alvin> Slart: it is for moving the chrome os image to usb stick
[07:41] <Slart> Alvin: ubuntu has this in it's repos?
[07:41] <welcome> forkcap : tried google..but seems not much help about it
[07:41] <Alvin> Slart: nope
[07:42] <miles95> does any1 know how to remove a hdd password
[07:42] <miles95> with out knowing it
[07:42] <psypher246> btw to all, how awesome is this, you can use virt-manager to install karmic to a usb stick as a block device and configure the whole thing in a vm then reboot and run full OS from USB stick as test system without reinstalling or running as a live usb stick (which has some issues), then one installed and setup fully you can clone that usb install to your hard drive. cool huh :)
[07:42] <Nonpython> is there a guide to setting up tv out with the open source ATI drivers?
[07:42] <forkcap> welcome: i'd definitely try the winetricks addons then, good luck.
[07:43] <[[thufir]]> can't seem to get downloadhelper + flashgot to get some flv vid's -- they do get youtube, just not all flv's.  why?
[07:43] <Slart> Alvin: perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic might be a better choice of channel then? or something a bit more chrome oriented
[07:43] <Alvin> Slart: oops, sorry my bad
[07:43] <Alvin> Slart: ty
[07:43] <Alvin> Slart: =)
[07:43] <welcome> forkcap : pl tell me on how to install winetricks.wil give a try
[07:43] <Slart> Alvin: no worries =)
[07:43] <welcome> indus : r u from india
[07:43] <indus> welcome: si
[07:43] <indus> welcome: yes
[07:44] <forkcap> welcome: try "sudo apt-get install winetricks"
[07:44] <welcome> forkcap : k ..trying
[07:44] <roboboy> is it possible to have dual head support for an ati card WITHOUT using FGLRX?
[07:45] <Andy1978> roboboy: yes, the FREE radeon driver supports that
[07:45] <roboboy> I'm a little confused, is that not the same thing as the mesa driver?
[07:46] <welcome> forkcap : says " command not found"
[07:46] <Andy1978> roboboy: you mean OpenGL ?
[07:46] <osirisx11> i added a tmpfs line i copied and pasted from a tutorial to my fstab, anyone know how i can test that it is working?
[07:46] <welcome> forkcap : another issue - problm with key board..specially characters
[07:46] <forkcap> welcome: search in the Add/REmove Programs then, I'm not in front of a Ubuntu machine to say what might be wrong... ;)
[07:46] <welcome> forkcap: thnx anyways
[07:47] <forkcap> I also don't know anything about character/keyboard issues really, I'm on en_us layout on an AMerican keyboard so no issues.
[07:47] <roboboy> Andy1978: see this is my confusion, I'm speaking of video drivers for ubuntu, the fglrx just won't effin install, and you mention this free radeon driver, but I don't know if that is what is being installed automatically by ubuntu or not...
[07:47] <sharpen047> could someone help me with wine sound? i can get sound for an intro, but not after that, only been this way since the removal of pulseaudio
[07:47] <welcome> indus : u r from ?
[07:47] <welcome> indus : which place
[07:47] <Alvin> anyone know vm that can boot from usb stick?
[07:47] <indus> welcome: india
[07:49] <osirisx11> anyone know how i can test tmpfs to make sure it is going into ram and not physical storage? its for my SSD so it is kind of important i think
[07:49] <Slart> Alvin: not directly.. but you can make virtualbox boot from an image of the boot drive or similar http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?p=14648&sid=4843b05853d30ed930fbfac38088f06e
[07:49] <DannyButterman> Hi there
[07:50] <Andy1978> roboboy: does "dmesg |grep radeon" produce a output?
[07:50] <indus> welcome: india mumbai
[07:50] <DannyButterman> How can I know which is the right dev for my serial connector on my pc ?
[07:50] <welcome> keyboard issue : hi.. installed ubuntu 9.10...getting keyboard error ..if i type "@" it is typed as ' " ' & vice-versa .pl help
[07:50]  * wenko gives indus a steak
[07:51] <welcome> indus : how long hav u been using ubuntu
[07:51] <indus> wenko: thank you, but i dont get it
[07:51] <joljam> I did an sudo rm -rf* accidentally.. now everything on my comp is gone.. how do i recover the data. in need of dire help
[07:51] <indus> :)
[07:51] <zaoul> What would be the proper way to export all the packages I've apt-get and to run that on another computer?
[07:51] <indus> welcome: 3 years
[07:51] <Flannel> !undelete | joljam
[07:51] <wenko> joljam: you dont
[07:51] <roboboy> Andy1978: I'm on the laptop reinstalling ubuntu for the fortieth time cuz I keep FUBAR'ing it beyond all recognition when trying to add the fglrx driver, so when it comes back up I'll try that and this radeon driver, I found the website, thanks for pointing it out
[07:51] <Flannel> joljam: But, I wouldn't expect much
[07:51] <welcome> indus : gr8...wats ur view bout it.. r u using ubuntu 9.10 KK
[07:52] <indus> welcome: yes
[07:52] <Andy1978> DannyButterman: how many serial ports do you have?
[07:52] <indus> welcome: i only use ubuntu, except play call of duty on windows
[07:52] <forkcap> zaoul: you can do something like "dpkg -L | grep ii" to get a list of installed packages... then take that list to the other machine as a checklist
[07:52] <Alvin> Slart: wow cool, thx a lot =)
[07:52] <welcome> indus: i tried ubuntu 9.10  on my laptop. everything worked well..but had some issues with wireless
[07:52] <osirisx11> indus: stop using windows! PlayOnLinux works really really good! http://www.playonlinux.com
[07:53] <forkcap> or dpkg -l (lowercase)  perhaps ;)
[07:53] <zaoul> forkcap: I need automation
[07:53] <DannyButterman> Andy1978: I have only one, as it's usually the case
[07:53] <Alvin> Slart: i guess no vm bios that support usb boot today >.<
[07:53] <zaoul> forkcap: I have MANY applications
[07:53] <indus> osirisx11: i love windows so never
[07:53] <Slart> Alvin: I have no idea.. I've only efver used virtualbox
[07:53] <forkcap> zaoul: you need something like Ghost then, for cloning of system images... anyone have a ubottu for that :)
[07:53] <Andy1978> DannyButterman: also... whats the problem if you only have one?
[07:53] <zaoul> love windows? wow
[07:54] <osirisx11> indus: blasphemy!
[07:54] <DannyButterman> several devs : ttyS0 S1 n so on
[07:54]  * indus admits to being a windows troll
[07:54] <Andy1978> DannyButterman: btw. I have here 8 serial ports, 2 on motherboard, 4 on PCI card, 2 via USB
[07:54] <zaoul> forkcap: naa I don't want that.. it takes up too much space.. im fine with installing default OS and then running install apps script
[07:55] <welcome> KEYBOARD ISSUE : Hi ! Using UBUNTU 9.10 ...problem with typing ..when i type @ it is typed as   "     and vice-versa..pl hlep..thnx
[07:55] <osubuck_> im sure playonlinux has a lot of bugs heh
[07:55] <Billiard> zaoul: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366  something like this?
[07:55] <osubuck_> performance issues... etc... doens't compare to running games natively on windows
[07:55] <Slart> osirisx11: for playing games there just isn't a good alternative.. wine is a very nice effort and major kudos to them for all the work they've done.. but they still have a lot of ground to cover before you can even say that 50% of all the windows apps works the same way in wine as in windows
[07:55] <Timmymayes> what command will print a file to the terminal other than cat?
[07:55] <Billiard> Timmymayes: whats wrong with cat
[07:55] <Andy1978> DannyButterman: "dmesg |grep tty" gives you something like "serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A"
[07:55] <zaoul> Billiard: looks good.. ill try it, thanks
[07:55] <Slart> Timmymayes: less, most, more etc
[07:55] <Timmymayes> i want to show one screen full at a time
[07:55] <forkcap> zaoul, well if it's just one machine, a one-line script like "for i in `cat my_package_list`; do sudo aptitude install $i; done" would work, given that my_package_list is a list of packages from the other machine, one package name per line
[07:55] <indus> welcome: are you using the right keyboard?
[07:55] <Timmymayes> how do i do that with cat?
[07:56] <osirisx11> Slart: have you used PlayOnLinux? I ran sims 3 flawlessly, it is awesome
[07:56] <Slart> Timmymayes: personally I prefer most
[07:56] <DannyButterman> Andy1978: you're righ, thank you !
[07:56] <zaoul> forkcap: seems like something that should be built into apt or synaptics :-/
[07:56] <Timmymayes> Slart, could you give me a brief desc of what sets them apart?
[07:56] <Andy1978> Timmymayes: try "less" or "more"
[07:57] <welcome> indus : yes....
[07:57] <Slart> osirisx11: I've used wine, which playonlinux is based on.. unless they've done some serious rewriting they won't be that much different
[07:57] <welcome> indus : it was working fine with windows
[07:57] <forkcap> zaoul, and actually you can just pass it one big list, never mind the for loop.  Yes, a sort of templating system would be nice. More of an enterprise feature than a desktop one though...
[07:57] <indus> welcome: use usa keyboard
[07:57] <Slart> Timmymayes: mostly output format.. less and more is pretty much the same.. most has some extra gui stuff added.. just install them and see which one you like.. they are small downloads if they aren't installed by default
[07:58] <osubuck_> i've only had wine work for 1 application correctly... and i don't even like that app very much
[07:58] <welcome> indus : how do i change tat
[07:58] <indus> wine is a dirty way of playing a game
[07:58] <osirisx11> Slart: yes, they have done a heck of a lot of work, you should give it a serious try before you bash it. they have a database of games and very specific wine config options per-game. it is very spiffy
[07:58] <indus> welcome: go to preferences>keyboard
[07:59] <zaoul> forkcap: Im thinking of a cheap backup strategy
[07:59] <Slart> osirisx11: it's still wine.. no matter how much makeup you put on it
[07:59] <welcome> indus : it is UK
[07:59] <indus> osirisx11: wine is an experiment and willl always be one
[07:59] <zaoul> forkcap: as long as I keep home, and the list of my install apps, I should be able to save media space
[07:59] <archet45> is anyone with nvidia restricted drivers able to use remote desktop?
[07:59] <archet45> i can't seem to find a work around for the bug or fix :(
[08:00] <osirisx11> Slart, indus: both of you are talking without experience of the product i am referencing. it does use wine, but i am here to tell you my 3d game for windows ran flawlessly with full 3d and surround sound on ubuntu jaunty
[08:00] <indus> osirisx11: which product?
[08:00] <osirisx11> http://www.playonlinux.com
[08:00] <osubuck_> sims 3, woohoo
[08:00] <welcome> indus : keboard layout is UK
[08:00] <indus> osirisx11: advertising is not allowed on this channel :P
[08:00] <archet45> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/353126
[08:00] <indus> welcome: make it usa
[08:01] <archet45> thats my issue, and need help using the -noxdamage argument with vnc
[08:01] <welcome> INDUS :  VARIANT ?
[08:01] <indus> welcome: generic
[08:01] <sharpen047> could someone help me with wine sound? i can get sound for an intro, but not after that, only been this way since the removal of pulseaudio
[08:01] <osirisx11> indus: not advertising, it is an open source and free product. i was countering you and Slart.
[08:01] <Alvin> Slart: is virtualbox-ose on package manager the same thing on www.virtualbox.org?
[08:01] <Kuna> h!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
[08:01] <kbp> Does anyone know how to determine which group a users belong to? (in terminal) thank you
[08:01] <forkcap> zaoul: if you just want to back up your home, and the list of installed packages, the traditional way would be to add a scheduled task (or cron job) that uses rsync+ssh (with keys) to copy /home and the list over to a remote host. Other people may be able to recommend more user friendly solutions.
[08:01] <Billiard> sharpen047: is this a known issue for that game on the appdb
[08:01] <Andy1978> kbp: id
[08:02] <dome> I installed ubuntustudio on a VM. It said it would boot to a GUI but never did. How do I enable this?
[08:02] <Slart> Alvin: nope.. OSE is the open source version.. the one on virtualbox.org is a closed source version.. but it comes with USB support, amongst other things
[08:02] <osirisx11> Alvin: ose = open source edition, a bit crippled, no usb support
[08:02] <kbp> thank you Andy1978
[08:02] <Andy1978> kbp: or "groups"
[08:02] <Alvin> osirisx11: ic thx
[08:02] <Alvin> Slart: thx
[08:02] <zaoul> forkcap: imma give bacula a shot, I use BackupPC on a few machines already.. going to try something new
[08:02] <welcome> indus - still the problem exists
[08:02] <indus> osirisx11: i like to run software on the platform its designed for, so i never use wine,except for older games like half life
[08:02] <forkcap> zaoul: there is a definite lack of an easy solution like Time Machine, etc.
[08:03] <zaoul> and BackupPC is nice
[08:03] <Andy1978> kbp: no problem
[08:03] <indus> welcome: log out and login again
[08:03] <zaoul> time machine eh
[08:03] <welcome> indus ok
[08:03] <zaoul> that is mac?
[08:03] <forkcap> zaoul: Bacula, yes, might be overkill for 1 machine but right track.
[08:03] <zaoul> oh yea
[08:03] <osirisx11> indus: you can do as you wish, but you should know you have the option to run it perfectly without windows :D
[08:03] <forkcap> zaoul: yeah it is almost 1-click backup...
[08:03] <zaoul> forkcap: no I have 10 machines
[08:03] <indus> osirisx11: but iam not bashing this , its fun to experiment,
[08:03] <osubuck_> perfectly... pleasseeee
[08:04] <forkcap> zaoul: ooh, definitely give Bacula a try... also Puppet for configuration management.
[08:04] <indus> osirisx11: well, wont run perfectly as far as games are concerned
[08:04] <indus> osirisx11: never can use the graphics drivers since it hasnt any
[08:04] <indus> osirisx11: always runs slower
[08:04] <zaoul> forkcap: I like seeing it has a real front end directory, instead of just a web based gui... I miss real applications
[08:05] <indus> osirisx11: nvm off topic :D
[08:05] <Slart> for backups I like "Back in time".. simple to setup.. lacks some configurability.. but as a turn key backup solutions it's nice
[08:05] <milkncat> using gnome..my mouse settings are in the lowest right now..but still fast to me..is there a way to make it slower?
[08:05] <indus> osirisx11: also wine gui is ugly and old looking which i dont like
[08:05] <indus> osirisx11: maybe playon linux looks better
[08:05] <osirisx11> you are very misinformed my friend indus, i had full 3d support, running very fast
[08:05] <napster> Hi all.. How to synchronize my clock with Internet time zones...?
[08:06] <indus> osirisx11: ya i wonder how its possible, how does wine do that
[08:06] <Meowpup> karmic seems to work fine on my computer but then after some time it plays up. is this fault happening to others i wonder
[08:06] <forkcap> napster: package "ntp"
[08:06] <indus> osirisx11: anyways, i prefer windows for my games
[08:06] <indus> osirisx11: i play quake 4 on linux though :)
[08:06] <Slart> osirisx11: look.. this discussion isn't really going anywhere.. perhaps #winehq or #ubuntu-offtopic might be a better place
[08:07] <mditto> Thanks again for your help, teamcoltra.
[08:07] <osirisx11> Slart: but...but he said..he wants to use windows.. :(
[08:07] <Flannel> napster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Time%20Synchronization%20using%20NTP
[08:07] <napster> forkcap: Already installed. on mint...? Or i need to download...?
[08:07] <napster> forkcap: Flannel Thank you...
[08:07] <napster> :)
[08:07] <Slart> osirisx11: this isn't a linux advocacy channel.. it's ubuntu support..
[08:07] <osirisx11> i am supporting ubuntu by eradicating windows
[08:08] <Slart> osirisx11: you can try to convert him in the offtopic channel
[08:08] <osirisx11> lol
[08:10] <sharpen047> Billiard, no it isnt
[08:10] <dome> everyone here using xchat?
[08:10] <sharpen047> i am
[08:10] <osubuck_> heh everyone?
[08:10] <osubuck_> i seriously doubt it
[08:10] <Billiard> sharpen047: you try changing the wine audio settings from alsa to oss or something else?
[08:11] <dome> should ubuntu boot directly to a gui or do I need to install one?
[08:11] <Billiard> sharpen047: or mess with other wine audio settings
[08:11] <dome> I am used to debian
[08:11] <welcome> INDUS - keyboard working fine now :) thnx
[08:11] <Billiard> dome: ubuntu-desktop will boot to a gui
[08:11] <sharpen047> Billiard, yes oss doesnt work at all only alsa does (the others dont work at all either)
[08:11] <Slart> dome: ubuntu comes with Gnome
[08:11] <sharpen047> Billiard, there are more?
[08:11] <liubo> 000
[08:11] <Slart> dome: the desktop version does at least.. the server version doesn't
[08:11] <dome> ive installed the full 4gb ubuntu and ubuntustudio and neither boot to gui
[08:12] <welcome> INDUS - i installed Playonlinux...guide me ahead...
[08:12] <Billiard> sharpen047: did the add the wine beta repo?
[08:12] <osubuck_> welcome: read the documentation on the website
[08:12] <sharpen047> Billiard, nope, was trying to stay away from beta
[08:13] <Billiard> sharpen047: i would, ive found it has better support
[08:13] <sharpen047> Billiard, where would i find the repo?
[08:13] <ardchoille> dome: in a console, run the following comand: apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop | grep -i installed
[08:13] <Billiard> sharpen047: google wine repo first result
[08:14] <sharpen047> Billiard, buy or sell wine auction? :D
[08:14] <welcome> osubuck_ : pl give me the link
[08:14] <dome> ardchoille: nothign is installed
[08:14] <snowrichard> hello
[08:14] <dome> guess i downloaded the wron gversion
[08:14] <osubuck_> welcome: figure out how to use a search engine
[08:14] <Billiard> sharpen047: srsly? its the first result for me
[08:14] <ardchoille> dome: you can install the gnome desktop with: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:14] <sharpen047> Billiard,  i am kidding haha its an ad
[08:15] <welcome> osubuck_ : new to ubuntu..so not aware
[08:15] <Spixx> welcome: www.google.com
[08:15] <dome> ardchoille: thx for the help
[08:15] <liubo> exit
[08:15] <ardchoille> dome: yw
[08:16] <Meowpup> karmic seems to work fine on my computer but then after some time it plays up. is this fault happening to others i wonder
[08:16] <Spixx> you should allways try and search for the problem you are having first
[08:16] <Spixx> Meowpup: loggs?
[08:16] <psypher246> hi all, does ayone know which packages has to be installed so that the java test on java.com does not fail. i have already installed ubuntu-restricted-extras (which should have already covered it) and sun-java6-jre and still it fails??
[08:16] <osubuck_> Meowpup: what does "it plays up" even mean?
[08:17] <Spixx> psypher246: installed the plugin for firefox?
[08:17] <Spixx> osubuck_: sometimes it fails? :D
[08:17] <Meowpup> i dont know exactly freezes hangups slow to respond etc
[08:17] <psypher246> Spixx: sun-java6-plugin or the plugin pop-up that appears when going to the site?
[08:17] <dome> is there somethign better on ubuntu than xchat?
[08:17] <Spixx> No check "tools > addons"
[08:18] <Spixx> unde the plugin "tabb"
[08:18] <osubuck_> better is subjective
[08:18] <Slart> !irc | dome
[08:18] <ardchoille> dome: yes, irssi is one that comes to mind but it's text-mode only
[08:18] <sharpen047> Billiard, what is a blocked update? haha
[08:18] <dome> Slart: ty
[08:18] <Billiard> sharpen047: where you get that?
[08:19] <sharpen047> Billiard, kpackagekit
[08:19] <psypher246> Spixx: the install missing plugin request to install the plugin, which was already installed with restricted extras?
[08:19] <Rinz> hello, and I have some problems with my laptop sound
[08:19] <sharpen047> Rinz, what kind of problems?
[08:19] <Rinz> anyone could help me? :)
[08:19] <osubuck_> psypher246: have you cleared your cache?
[08:19] <Rinz> the sound plays only when I connect my headphone..
[08:20] <Billiard> sharpen047: try sudo apt-get install wine
[08:20] <Billiard> sharpen047: sudo apt-get update   first
[08:20] <psypher246> osubuck_: no i haven't
[08:20] <osubuck_> installing restricted extras gave me all of the goodies, so not sure why you're having a problem
[08:20] <sharpen047> Rinz, open up a terminal type in alsamixer and make sure everything is unmuted(hit tab twice after running alsamixer to show all channels)
[08:21] <Rinz> sharpen047, I will try.
[08:21] <fcuk112_win7> dome, have you tried irssi?
[08:21] <psypher246> now looks like FF is has crashed trying to install plugin
[08:21] <kbp> I need help. Could anyone who using mysql tell me what are the owner:group of the files in /var/lib/mysql ? thank you
[08:22] <dome> fcuk112_7: no I have not. I have only used xchat. I am a newbie to linux
[08:23] <welcome> osubuck_ :  i m tring to install opera 10.10 .which os shud i select linux   x86 64 / poerpc / i 386
[08:23] <psypher246> ok it didn't crash, there was just a synaptic window in the bacground needeing attention, but couldn;'t see it until i killed FF, still it qwas installing a plugin which was already installed eith ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:23] <fcuk112_win7> dome, irssi in terminal is worth a try then.  i think it's the best irc program in linux terminal.
[08:23] <Billiard> kbp: most are mysql:mysql   debian-5.1.flag is root:root
[08:24] <Rinz> sharpen047 // I check all volume setting is full(!00).. but in my laptop speaker it doesn't work
[08:24] <Reactor> teamcoltra /!\
[08:25] <sharpen047> Rinz, are they all unmuted? you can tell by the MM(muted) or OO(open) at the bottom of the bars
[08:26] <sharpen047> Rinz, what kind of laptop is it?
[08:26] <psypher246> going to have to install a new fresh karmic, but jave plaugin is not being installed proeprly with ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:26] <ekontsevoy> where can I find URLs for internet radio stations to add to Rythmbox? I googled for half an hour - there are tons of "internet radio listings" but they list crap - links to other listings which in turn send you to other, etc. I haven't been able to find a single valid internet radio URL. WTF?
[08:26] <Meowpup> Spixx: osubuck_ i dont know exactly, freezes, hang-ups, slow to respond etc
[08:26] <Rinz> It is LG, P2-tp2007. If you want, I will give you hardware information about this.
[08:26] <llutz> ekontsevoy: shoutcast?
[08:27] <osubuck_> Meowpup: yes i saw that, sorry i am unable to help
[08:27] <llutz> ekontsevoy: live365....
[08:27] <downgrade> ekontsevoy: having fast bandwidth?
[08:27] <sharpen047> Rinz, im thinking it has its own volume, some toshibas have a dial you turn along with the fn Fx keys
[08:27] <sharpen047> Billiard, do i need to restart?
[08:28] <welcome> hi ! m installing Opera 10.10 on ubuntu 9.10 ...lem me know which os shud i select LINUX - X86 64 / POWERPC / I386
[08:28] <Meowpup> osubuck_: when i know more i will come and ask again
[08:28] <sharpen047> welcome, depends on your computer
[08:29] <ekontsevoy> thanks guys! yeah, my bandwidth is fine
[08:29] <Rinz> sharpen047 // it isn't muted and.. my function keys works great. can I control my speaker only? not line-out.
[08:30] <ekontsevoy> llutz: so I am here, now what? Where is the URL? http://www.live365.com/stations/efmradio
[08:30] <sharpen047> Rinz, does the sound work? and if you want you can control any channel,i changed mine to master channel
[08:31] <sharpen047> Rinz, and would it happen to be an intel chipset/audio card?
[08:31] <welcome> in windows we use TASK MANAGER to shut down non-responsive windows...wat do we use in ubuntu
[08:31] <Rinz> sharpen047 // it is REALTEK's sound chipset.
[08:32] <Rinz> sharpen047 // only my headphone works - line-out
[08:32] <Spixx> welcome: ps aux | grep NAMEOFPROGRAM
[08:32] <Spixx> then kill XXXXX :P
[08:32] <ardchoille> welcome: or xkill
[08:32] <ekontsevoy> llutz?
[08:32] <sharpen047> Rinz, hmm thats what i have, i had that same problem i fixed it by editing channels in kmix and unmuting channels
[08:32] <sharpen047> Rinz, PCM and speaker for mine
[08:33] <Rinz> sharpen047 // what is kmix?
[08:33] <ardchoille> Rinz: mixer in KDE
[08:33] <llutz> ekontsevoy: search station, tune in, play, enjoy
[08:33] <sharpen047> Rinz, im in kubuntu im using KDE my fault :D
[08:34] <welcome> how can i change my user name...
[08:34] <ardchoille> sharpen047: You might have better support in #kubuntu
[08:34] <ekontsevoy> llutz: what do you mean "tune in"? Rythmbox asks me for a station URL. Where do I get it?
[08:34] <neil_d> does anyone know why mplayer will not play some dvds with the chapters in the correct order?  and is there anything I can do about it?
[08:34] <knoppies> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vQ7i1WCjys
[08:34] <knoppies> wrong channel
[08:34] <knoppies> my bad
[08:34] <FloodBot3> knoppies: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:34] <sharpen047> ardchoille, i tried, ive about given up anyway :D but thanks ( i am in there also)
[08:35] <Rinz> sharpen047 // kubuntu is variant version of ubuntu, right? '--'
[08:35] <ardchoille> Rinz: ues, but it uses the KDE desktop instead of the gnome desktop
[08:35] <ekontsevoy> llutz: uuugh! I am slow... thanks! :)))
[08:35] <sharpen047> Rinz, yes same base code **i think**
[08:36] <sharpen047> ardchoille, my issues are no kde specific so i thought this would be a better channel because there are a lot mroe people here
[08:36] <sharpen047> non*
[08:36] <Rinz> what is KDE desktop? i'm sorry;; it's my first time to use ubuntu.
[08:36] <ardchoille> sharpen047: No problem
[08:37] <sharpen047> Rinz, google KDE desktop
[08:37] <Spixx> Rinz: KDE is yet another desktop system, with apps, and a special look
[08:37] <ardchoille> Rinz: http://kde.org/
[08:37] <sharpen047> closer to windows
[08:37] <Spixx> Rinz: check www.kubuntu.com and www.xubuntu.com
[08:37] <sharpen047> Rinz, we were all noobs at some point :D
[08:37] <davidd> hi i have a problem with firewalls on a ubuntu 9.04 server install
[08:37] <Rinz> sharpen047, yes:)
[08:38] <davidd> hi i have a problem with firewalls on a ubuntu 9.04 server install, which .deb file has iptables in it?
[08:38] <Spixx> Davidd: none? It is in the kernel
[08:38] <Rinz> Spixx, thanks:)
[08:38] <davidd> the executable
[08:38] <ardchoille> davidd: you should already have iptables
[08:38] <davidd> the kernel module is loaded
[08:38] <Rinz> ardchollle, thanks:)
[08:38] <Rinz> sharpen047, thanks:)
[08:39] <sharpen047> np :D
[08:39] <davidd> it doesnt exist in /sbin
[08:39] <davidd> neither does telnet or traceroute or fto
[08:39] <davidd> ftp
[08:39] <Spixx> davidd: ahh, I've had that problem too
[08:39] <sharpen047> ardchoille, you know anything bout pulse audio?
[08:39] <Spixx> are you root davidd?
[08:39] <davidd> yes
[08:39] <ardchoille> sharpen047: I don't know anything about audio at all, mine may not even work for all I know.. I'm hearing impaired
[08:39] <scott__> HELLO!
[08:39] <davidd> i cant do apt-get because the firewall blocks it
[08:39] <Spixx> okay it should be just iptabtables in terminal
[08:39] <Rinz> is kernel different in kubuntu?
[08:39] <davidd> i can copy stuff with scp
[08:40] <sharpen047> ardchoille, awkward....
[08:40]  * sharpen047 slaps himself
[08:40] <Spixx> davidd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[08:40] <Spixx> Rinz:  No just the interface
[08:40] <davidd> root@mym-web-01:/etc/init.d# iptables -L
[08:40] <davidd> bash: iptables: command not found
[08:40] <Rinz> spixx: only difference in theme?
[08:40] <Spixx> Rinz: you can acctually use KDE on a "ubuntu" install they are the same except for looks, and some major programs
[08:41] <davidd> locate only shows the kernel modules
[08:41] <Spixx> Rinz: kind of
[08:41] <zj3t3mju> my grub2 can detect windows xp
[08:41] <psypher246> hi all, does the preload package still make a diffrence in karmic? or is there an equivalent tool already there?
[08:41] <zj3t3mju> i use update-grub
[08:41] <zj3t3mju> what should I do?
[08:41] <Spixx> davidd: dpkg -s iptables
[08:42] <Spixx> and if not installed: apt-get install iptables
[08:42] <davidd> root@mym-web-01:/etc/init.d# dpkg -s iptables
[08:42] <davidd> Package `iptables' is not installed and no info is available.
[08:42] <davidd> apt-get doesnt work
[08:42] <davidd> blocked
[08:42] <Spixx> :S?!
[08:42] <Spixx> blocked?
[08:42] <davidd> i need iptables to fix it
[08:42] <davidd> i need to know in which .deb iptables is
[08:42] <davidd> url
[08:42] <scott__> sudo apt-get install <Program name> you mean?
[08:42] <davidd> and i can scp it
[08:43] <Spixx> davidd: you know that there is a site called Google? And that there is a box in which you can write things like "iptables .deb" and similar?
[08:43] <forkcap> davidd: programs like firestarter merely control iptables
[08:43] <greezmunkey> davidd, would downing your interface(s) and then bringing them back up disable them temporarily?
[08:43] <greezmunkey> iptables that is...
[08:43] <forkcap> davidd: you should be able to use firestarter in ubuntu to manage iptables
[08:43] <davidd> gg:ubuntu 9.04 iptables deb apt
[08:43] <Spixx> forkcap: He does not have iptables
[08:43] <davidd> i search for this
[08:43] <miles95> ubuntu keep freezing when i boot it
[08:43] <davidd> and found stuff about moblock
[08:44] <davidd> that is why i came here
[08:44] <Spixx> only modules?
[08:44] <davidd> i must have the 9.04 .deb
[08:44] <davidd> Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y
[08:44] <davidd> 0% [Connecting to nl.archive.ubuntu.com]
[08:44] <MOUD> Hello
[08:44] <knoppies> !hi
[08:45] <davidd> ha
[08:45] <davidd> ok apt-getting gave me the url
[08:45] <davidd> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/iptables/iptables_<IP_ADDRESS>debian1-1ubuntu2_i386.deb
[08:46] <Spixx> http://packages.debian.org/lenny/i386/iptables/download
[08:46] <ardchoille> Spixx: never install .deb packages on ubuntu that were made for debian
[08:47] <davidd> ok, now dpkg -i to install right
[08:47] <Spixx> ardchoille: :P I use debian and thus a fast package search for me gives that url :P
[08:47] <indus> Spixx: yeah never install debian packages on ubuntu
[08:47] <Spixx> davidd: yes
[08:47] <cridenour> So after a install of ubuntu next to a windows install, some data partitions have folders with VDM files in them.  Is it required to keep those?
[08:47] <davidd> this wont reset no firewall, just install it right
[08:47] <ardchoille> Spixx: that's fine for a debian system, but don't advise ubuntu users to d that
[08:47] <davidd> not that i block myself out by installing this
[08:48] <Spixx> davidd: but how on earth have you managed to block everything with iptables? are the module even loaded?
[08:48] <ardchoille> Spixx: you're using debian and you're in this channel giving ubuntu users advise??
[08:49] <sybariten> i have an old ubuntu system, trying to install a chat client from .deb files. Get dependency problems. Do you think i can solve this? WIthout rebooting....    http://etherpad.com/2g7ObQV7af
[08:49] <davidd>   /lib/modules/2.6.24-24-virtual/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/iptable_nat.ko
[08:49] <sybariten> theres a list of the dependencies there
[08:49] <davidd> this is shown amongst others in modprobe -l
[08:49] <Spixx> ardchoille: no, I'm using ubuntu 9.10 and giving support in the support channel if you want to talk about that please do so by priv or in another channel
[08:49] <particlemann> I'm having the issue where dvd playback works fine in totem, but is really jerky in xine
[08:49] <Alvin> err sorry for being a noob, how to run virtualbox?
[08:49] <particlemann> any ideas?
[08:49] <Spixx> Alvin: have you installed it from apt?
[08:49] <MOUD> My laptop's touchpad mouse and USB mouse don't work on Ubuntu 9.10 64-Bit. How can I fix this?
[08:49] <Billiard> Alvin: open it from the programs menu?
[08:50] <Alvin> yeah i have installed it from apt after adding the repo
[08:50] <Billiard> MOUD: do they work on the live cd?
[08:50] <Alvin> Billiard: there's no menu for vb
[08:50] <Spixx> Alvin: Have you rebooted after the install?
[08:51] <MOUD> Billiard: I don't know, didn't try it
[08:51] <Alvin> Spixx: nope, i need to reboot?
[08:51] <Billiard> Alvin: try running virtualbox from a terminal
[08:51] <Spixx> Alvin: because there is modules that need to be loaded I don't know if you can just modprobe them
[08:51] <Alvin> ic
[08:51] <Dallas> anyone used photoshop, fireworks and dreamweaver through vm or wine before? I just want to know how well it functions.
[08:51] <davidd> well after ip change, it stoped working
[08:52] <davidd> can ssh in
[08:52] <Billiard> Dallas: check the wine appdb
[08:52] <Alvin> Billiard: is the command vboxwebsrv?
[08:52] <Billiard> Dallas: it will work perfectly in vm
[08:52] <Dallas> billiard: all of them?
[08:53] <Billiard> Alvin: i dont think so
[08:53] <Dallas> billiard, that would make me pleased. I think I might be dumping my win 7 rc soon
[08:53] <Billiard> Dallas: vm is like a normal pc, you dont get hardware video acceleration though
[08:53] <Alvin> Billiard: because i thought it would start with v, i press v and tab and i dont see any virtualbox there
[08:53] <Billiard> Alvin: try capital v
[08:54] <Alvin> Billiard: ah ic
[08:54] <Alvin> Billiard: ty =)
[08:54] <Billiard> Alvin: yup
[08:54] <Dallas> billiard: ah, so wine would be much better then.
[08:54] <MOUD> so, any workaround?
[08:54] <Billiard> Dallas: i dont know if wine will run them well, check the wine appdb
[08:55] <Billiard> MOUD: do any usb devices work?
[08:56] <Dallas> billiard: Yeah, they're all on there, thanks for the info billiard.
[08:56] <Billiard> Dallas: np
[08:57] <MOUD> Billiard: tried an USB mouse and a USB modem, both of them didn't work
[08:57] <Billiard> MOUD: does a flash drive work?
[08:57] <MOUD> Billiard: I don't have one here with me to test
[08:57] <Billiard> MOUD: does something other than a mouse work taht should work
[08:58] <Billiard> MOUD: keyboard?
[08:58] <MOUD> Billiard: sadly no
[08:58] <Billiard> MOUD: so its all usb?
[08:58] <MOUD> Billiard: keyboard works, it's a laptop
[08:58] <AnAnt> Hello, when I attempt to install gnome-shell, I found that it wants to pull several -dev packages, why is that ?
[08:58] <Billiard> MOUD: well i wanna know if its a usb prob or mous prob
[08:59] <Billiard> AnAnt: i guess because it needs them
[08:59] <MOUD> Billiard: it's not a mouse prob for sure because it works on win XP
[08:59] <Billiard> MOUD: i mean ubuntu mouse prob
[08:59] <Billiard> MOUD: or ubuntu complete usb prob
[08:59] <AnAnt> Billiard: doesn't sound right
[08:59] <Rinz> msg <spixx> <Spixx, can you give me some advice how to learn linux>
[08:59] <MOUD> Billiard: possibly, it used to work on 9.04
[09:00] <Spixx> Rinz: try /msg spixx :?
[09:00] <Billiard> MOUD: do you have an xorg.conf
[09:00] <Rinz> Spixx, yes; sorry
[09:00] <Spixx> :D
[09:01] <MOUD> Billiard: I don't know, I'm running XP now because I can't work well without a mouse
[09:01] <[USO]stefan_necu> hi people
[09:01] <Billiard> MOUD: ok
[09:01] <Billiard> MOUD: i guess i would try the live cd, if its all good on there backup/fresh install
[09:01] <MOUD> Billiard: I found a workaround but when I try running it on terminal it gives me a "Permission Denied", even with sudo. Here's the command:    echo options psmouse proto=exps > /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.modprobe
[09:02] <Billiard> but it works?
[09:02] <MOUD> Billiard: my live cd is at home, I'm at work now
[09:02] <lolmaus> I want to access my whole Ubuntu server with Samba. On Arch, i had a share for a root user. How do i do that in Ubuntu?
[09:03] <MOUD> Billiard: no, it gives me Permission Denied, even if I add "sudo" before the "echo"
[09:03] <Billiard> MOUD: the redirection is done as your user
[09:03] <forkcap> lolmaus: I hope you are doing it on a LAN or over a VPN.
[09:03] <Billiard> MOUD: you will have to do sudo -i   then the command
[09:04] <rdrjacob> My notebook is ASUS AF8m; can't configure my built in webcam. Can somebody help me?