[05:10] <snowblink> EvolutionR: If you're not connected, whatever needs to do lookups, has no DNS servers to run against
[05:10] <EvolutionR> the problem is how to add back the line, they wont let me....
[05:10] <Falstius> snowblink: gnome requires a valid IP address for hostname
[05:10] <Sav> dud, <>| =)
[05:10] <Sav> dud, thnx
[05:11] <snowblink> Falstius: ah. Okay. New to GNOME...
[05:11] <EvolutionR> Falstius: that's why I think is the hostname is the culprit
[05:11] <dud> Sav, :)
[05:11] <EvolutionR> need to solve it
[05:11] <dud> brb, reboot
[05:11] <snowblink> EvolutionR: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[05:11] <EvolutionR> wait
[05:12] <snowblink> EvolutionR: also check your nsswitch.conf
[05:12] <Falstius> EvolutionR: you need to add your hostname to /etc/hosts as an alias to localhost.
[05:12] <dud> if /etc/hosts sets localhost correctly, and localhost is set as the hostname
[05:12] <EvolutionR> I din't put anything to it I only enable it DHCP the rest dint do anything
[05:12] <dud> then you shouldnt have to connect to any dns servers
[05:12] <Falstius> dud: but localhost insn't the hostname.
[05:13] <dud>  /etc/hosts is the *static* lookup table
[05:13] <snowblink> EvolutionR: type hostname
[05:13] <EvolutionR> I remember the last time after the problem shows up is 127.0.0.localhost....ubuntu
[05:14] <dud> anyway, reboot brb
[05:14] <EvolutionR> snowblink: sorry I'm not at the linux box....Im using windows
[05:14] <snowblink> EvolutionR: on the linux box in a terminal, type hostname and see the return
[05:14] <EvolutionR> okie then I need to reboot
[05:14] <EvolutionR> wait for my news dude
[05:15] <Falstius> EvolutionR: hit ctrl-alt-f1 to get a terminal
[05:15] <Falstius> once you reboot.
[05:15] <EvolutionR> okie
[05:15] <EvolutionR> thanks guys
[05:15] <Falstius> and alt-f7 will take you back to the gui.
[05:23] <pybe-lappy> Falstius: isnt that error because the hostname isnt on the <IP_ADDRESS> line in /etc/hosts
[05:23] <Falstius> pybe-lappy: yes ...
[05:24] <pybe-lappy> Falstius: I told him to add that about an hour ago
[05:24] <Falstius> pybe-lappy: probably forgot.  or typed it wrong.
[05:24] <pybe-lappy> heh
[05:25] <Falstius> *shrug* he's definitely new.
[05:25] <iapx> hi all, does anybody know where does network-admin save its profiles
[05:25] <iapx> I also tried to strace it with no avail, it seems to write profles in /dev/ptmx
[05:26] <iapx> in hoary
[05:26] <tom_> Can any Emacs experts help me out, i have 2 problems. 1) in c++ mode, tab doesnt insert a tab, it just screws up my indenting (there is also no auto indenting) and 2) can i make the colours for the editor white on black?
[05:26] <Falstius> save profiles
[05:26] <Falstius> find /etc -mmin -1
[05:26] <Falstius> thats for lapx ... silly way to do it.
[05:27] <iapx> yea!
[05:28] <fc_> Hi, I installed php with apt-get install php4
[05:28] <fc_> but where is it installed?
[05:28] <fc_> i cant find it
[05:29] <pybe-lappy> fc_: dpkg -L php4
[05:29] <NanoTek> KiKoo !!
[05:30] <iapx> FOUND
[05:30] <iapx> thanks faltstius!
[05:31] <fc_> pybe-lappy, /usr/bin is in the list
[05:31] <fc_> but it isnt there
[05:32] <fc_> bash: /usr/bin/php4: No such file or directory
[05:32] <fc_> bash: /usr/bin/php: No such file or directory
[05:32] <bretzel> Hi there :-)
[05:32] <BockBilbo> wowww
[05:33] <BockBilbo> its snowing here!
[05:33] <dud> yey, got nvidia drivers working under xorg
[05:34] <pybe-lappy> fc_: try 'which php'
[05:34] <iapx> nye
[05:34] <iapx> nye
[05:34] <iapx> bye
[05:34] <iapx> and thanks
[05:34] <jazzka> why is gnome in Ubuntu so ugly by default?
[05:34] <fc_> pybe-lappy, that doesnt do anything
[05:34] <fc_> root@fc:/usr/bin # which php
[05:34] <fc_> root@fc:/usr/bin #
[05:35] <EvolutionR> Hi!!!!!!!!
[05:35] <snowblink> EvolutionR: any luck?
[05:35] <eyequeue> jazzka:  ugly is opinion, and of course, you're entitled to yours
[05:35] <bretzel> I am sure someone here knows how to install and enable icons themes manually - I need to do it because this gnome installation is crappy about themes management ( GUI tools )
[05:35] <EvolutionR> snowblink what's the command is it hosts in terminal?
[05:35] <snowblink> EvolutionR: hostname
[05:35] <pybe-lappy> bretzel: download the theme and click install in the themes gui browse to the archive and click ok
[05:36] <jazzka> eyequeue, well it has sad colors ;)
[05:36] <diesel> How do I hold multiple packages?  I don't want to type echo <package1> hold | dpkg --set-selections, echo <package2> hold | dpkg --set-selections for each package I want held.
[05:36] <eyequeue> jazzka:  the chocolate brown?
[05:36] <EvolutionR> snowblink: $ sudo hostname
[05:36] <EvolutionR> sudo: unable to lookup  via gethostbyname()
[05:36] <bretzel> pybe0lappy: Tha 's the crappy part of gnome for bad wrapped icons themes: It does not install at all! that is why I ask for manual installation!
[05:36] <jazzka> eyequeue, yes
[05:37] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  cat /etc/hostname
[05:37] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: /etc/hostname
[05:37] <EvolutionR> You have new mail in /var/mail/user1
[05:37] <eyequeue> jazzka:  i think that was a ubuntu decision, consistency with some of their other stuff
[05:38] <snowblink> EvolutionR: sounds like you don't have a hostname set
[05:38] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  ls -l /etc/hostname
[05:38] <pybe-lappy> bretzel: no idea then, try getting the theme from art.gnome.org they always work for me
[05:38] <EvolutionR> To<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:38] <EvolutionR> From<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:38] <EvolutionR> Subject: *** SECURITY information for  ***
[05:38] <EvolutionR> Message-Id<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:38] <EvolutionR> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:37:04 +0800 (MYT)
[05:38] <EvolutionR>  : Jan 27 00:37:04 : user1 : unable to lookup  via gethostbyname()
[05:38] <EvolutionR> okie!
[05:39] <mpk> does anyone know if there any news ticker programs available for Gnome?
[05:39] <EvolutionR> ls -l /etc/hostname
[05:39] <EvolutionR> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root            1 2005-01-26 20:00 /etc/hostname
[05:39] <djtansey> I'm sure this has been asked 100 times already, but is there a way to make evolution work again? mine won't even start. (i am assuming it is a dist-upgrade thing in hoary, since i haven't changed any other settings)
[05:39] <cutterjohn> mpk: several, but I dont know their names offhand
[05:39] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  if it is empty, then run 'sudo hostname some-short-word-you-want-to-name-your-box-here'
[05:39] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: can u give me an example, I am newbie about that
[05:39] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  'sudo hostname mybox' for example
[05:40] <pybe-lappy> EvolutionR: whats in /etc/hosts
[05:40] <bretzel> pybe-lappy: hehehe :-) thanks for that hint - I will go to the arts.gnome  site and figure out ( if still not working ) why my gnome installation  is that a mess -- I have other scrap to deal with - such DVD/CD write in ctx menu etc ....
[05:40] <EvolutionR> okie
[05:40] <cutterjohn> mpk: if you use synaptic, do a find on news over name & description, or a find on ticker over name & description
[05:40] <EvolutionR> sudo hostname mybox
[05:40] <EvolutionR> sudo: unable to lookup  via gethostbyname()
[05:41] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  then you will want to add " mybox" to the line that says "<IP_ADDRESS> localhost" in /etc/hosts
[05:41] <EvolutionR> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[05:41] <EvolutionR> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[05:41] <EvolutionR> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[05:41] <EvolutionR> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[05:41] <EvolutionR> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[05:41] <EvolutionR> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[05:41] <EvolutionR> only this after I remove the 127.0.0. ...
[05:41] <pybe-lappy> EvolutionR: why remove it
[05:41] <djtansey> is no one else having evolution problems today?
[05:42] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  um ..... *NEVER* remove the <IP_ADDRESS> line
[05:42] <EvolutionR> sorry I mistake
[05:42] <EvolutionR> but
[05:42] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  i think we ust discovered the problem :)
[05:42] <EvolutionR> the problem happen b4 I remove it
[05:42] <EvolutionR> !
[05:42] <EvolutionR> the problem happen b4 I remove it
[05:42] <diesel> How do I hold multiple packages?  I don't want to type echo <package1> hold | dpkg --set-selections for each package I want held.
[05:42] <EvolutionR> I tot that was the problem
[05:43] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  a problem existed, but this is a newer bigger one i think
[05:43] <EvolutionR> yeah
[05:43] <EvolutionR> okie I add that line
[05:43] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  okay, i'll dictate a line for you to add to /etc/hosts, can you do that?
[05:43] <EvolutionR> okie
[05:43] <EvolutionR> go on
[05:43] <EvolutionR> I try
[05:44] <pybe-lappy> 15:30 < pybe-lappy> EvolutionR: should be like: <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost <yourhostname>
[05:44] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost mybox
[05:44] <pybe-lappy> dejavu
[05:44] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  change "mybox" to whatever word you like of course
[05:44] <pybe-lappy> EvolutionR: i told you that over an hour ago
[05:45] <EvolutionR> okie thanks buddy
[05:45] <EvolutionR> I add the line to /etc/hosts
[05:45] <EvolutionR> sorry If I miss something u guys said
[05:45] <EvolutionR> done
[05:45] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  'sudo hostname mybox' <-- should work now
[05:45] <EvolutionR> should I restart the linux?
[05:45] <EvolutionR> okie let me try
[05:46] <EvolutionR> wait
[05:46] <EvolutionR> sudo hostname mybox
[05:46] <EvolutionR> You have new mail in /var/mail/user1
[05:46] <EvolutionR>   :/
[05:46] <EvolutionR> still cannot
[05:47] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  'sudo hostname mybox' <-- does not return a response if it worked ... now, try 'ls -l /etc/hostname'
[05:47] <EvolutionR> okie
[05:47] <EvolutionR> ls -l /etc/hostname
[05:47] <EvolutionR> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root            1 2005-01-26 20:00 /etc/hostname
[05:48] <EvolutionR> any thing?
[05:48] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  is the name you gave it only one letter long?
[05:48] <EvolutionR> wat u mean 1 letter long?
[05:48] <EvolutionR> I put mybox
[05:48] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  'sudo hostname mybox' <-- mybox is 5 letters long
[05:49] <EvolutionR> I put mybox as stated just now
[05:49] <EvolutionR> I copy and paste
[05:49] <eyequeue> EvolutionR: okay
[05:49] <EvolutionR> so what's next?
[05:49] <han`> ubuntu + dell inspiron 1150 laptop works great! nice =)
[05:49] <froust> What was that command that checks for/removes dangling symlinks?
[05:50] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  I'm not sure if you still have errors, do you?
[05:50] <EvolutionR> wait
[05:50] <EvolutionR> I try
[05:50] <EvolutionR> reboot the linux
[05:50] <EvolutionR> bye
[05:50] <Joe2> Hiya people, I added a fat32 partition to fstab (obviously I sudo'd to create the directory to mount to) but I need to be able to access the partition via something like konquerer
[05:50] <Joe2> Hiya people, I added a fat32 partition to fstab (obviously I sudo'd to create the directory to mount to) but I need to be able to access the partition via something like konquerer
[05:51] <Joe2> but
[05:51] <Joe2> I get access denied
[05:51] <Joe2> and I tried chmod'ing by using sudo
[05:51] <snowblink> Joe2: check your umask
[05:51] <Joe2> 0222
[05:52] <Joe2> er
[05:52] <Joe2> 0022 even
[05:52] <snowblink> try 000
[05:53] <Joe2> howd ya do that :P?
[05:53] <froust> Joe2: umask 0000
[05:53] <alexrait>  hello, I am trying to add a new account to evolution, but it won't allow me to click on the "forward" button in the wizard..
[05:53] <snowblink> Joe2: edit your fstab
[05:53] <awstott> wow this is a big channel
[05:54] <thenuke> awstott: yup :) ubuntu is popular distro
[05:54] <Joe2> /dev/hdb3       /mnt/windows10   vfat    defaults        0       0 <--- Thats what I got
[05:54] <han`> alexrait, on the first page?
[05:54] <alexrait> yes
[05:54] <Joe2> Ubuntu is one kisk ass distro :D
[05:54] <Peter> is Ubuntu easy to dual boot w/ windows?
[05:54] <snowblink> Joe2: instead of defaults
[05:54] <froust> Peter: I found it really easy.
[05:55] <snowblink> Joe2: put umask=000
[05:55] <thenuke> Peter: yes it is
[05:55] <Peter> whats the Ubuntu installer like?
[05:55] <Joe2> 000 or 0000
[05:55] <Peter> CLI?
[05:55] <froust> easy.
[05:55] <thenuke> Peter: Ubuntu will automagically detect windows and any other operating systems and then willingly dualboot them
[05:55] <snowblink> Joe2: either should work
[05:55] <alexrait> han`, In "Evulution Settings" I click on Add, it shows a welcome message, then on the second page I can't move forward..
[05:55] <awstott> anyone compile an eggdrop on ubuntu? I had a problem with tcl.... I couldn't get it to work... even with tcl8.3
[05:55] <froust> mine didn't detect windows
[05:55] <Peter> hmm
[05:55] <thenuke> Peter: what is CLI?
[05:56] <Peter> command line interface, no?
[05:56] <eyequeue> Command Line Interface, meaning no pretty pictures
[05:56] <Peter> yeah
[05:56] <dud> argh, mplayer just out right refuses to give me any video output
[05:56] <Joe2> right, brb gonna reboot and hopefully it'll work :D
[05:56] <Peter> what about 64bit radeon drivers?
[05:56] <snowblink> Joe2: hang on
[05:56] <snowblink> Joe2: you can remount
[05:56] <eyequeue> you type your inputs, rather than "point and drool"
[05:56] <alexrait> I have already one account...and I just want to add another one..
[05:56] <Joe2> will if I try umount to get it off then it just says /dev/hdb3 is busy
[05:57] <dud> "cannot grab port X"
[05:57] <dud> X is usually 145-147
[05:57] <han`> alexrait, you need to fill out more information then
[05:57] <eyequeue> alexrait:  sudo adduser otherusernamehere
[05:57] <snowblink> Joe2: fair enough
[05:57] <Joe2> joe@xhome:/mnt $ sudo umount windows10
[05:57] <Joe2> umount: /mnt/windows10: device is busy
[05:57] <Joe2> umount: /mnt/windows10: device is busy
[05:57] <bretzel> pybe-lappy: No luck, The icon theme files are actually uncompressed into my home's .themes dir, but nothing else is done... and all the stuff I install through the GUI are in the .themes dir and no hints about what is what...
[05:57] <eyequeue> alexrait:  oops, evolution, didn't see that at first, ignore that
[05:58] <alexrait> han`, what information? I filled all the fields.. even the optional
[05:58] <Peter> how is NTFS support?
[05:58] <pybe-lappy> bretzel: click on custom and pick them then save it
[05:58] <han`> alexrait, is the forward tab greyed out?
[05:58] <alexrait> it's still grey..
[05:59] <han`> alexrait, did you put in a proper email address?
[05:59] <alexrait> yes..
[05:59] <han`> do you already have an account in there?
[05:59] <alexrait> yes..
[05:59] <pybe-lappy> bretzel: also try sudo apt-get install gkt-engine* gnome-themes-extras
[05:59] <bretzel> pybe_lappy: custom ?? where you have it ??
[06:00] <alexrait> I have evolution 2.1.4 if it helps..
[06:00] <han`> is that a stable version? i have 2.0.x
[06:00] <Joe2> Yay it worked :D - thanks peeps
[06:01] <pybe-lappy> bretzel: desktop | prefs | themes | theme details - then choose your controls, window boarders, icons then click close then save
[06:01] <alexrait> han`, my sources are from hoary..
[06:02] <vpalle> i cant get evolution to read usenet news.. pan is working just fine.. any known problems?
[06:02] <alexrait> I guess I should just fill a bug report
[06:02] <han`> 2.0.3 is the latest stable release
[06:03] <han`> 2.1.3 is the latest unstable release, i would say use a stable release
[06:03] <han`> or else go to an evolution support channel/forum
[06:03] <alexrait> do they have one?
[06:04] <han`> #evolution on irc.gnome.org
[06:05] <bretzel> pybe-lappy: ok the details: I have downloaded Tuxntush icon set from art.gnome.org, I want to install it : prefs:themes|theme details|icons| install new theme| choosen the icons archive - doesn't appears in the list ... that is what I am dying to resolve!
[06:05] <pybe-lappy> bretzel: no idea im afraid, i will have a go
[06:06] <snowblink> bretzel: http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#4
[06:06] <bretzel> I don't intend to annoy you dude with that anyway - thanks for your time pybe-lappy :-)
[06:06] <pybe-lappy> bretzel: np
[06:07] <bretzel> snowblink: Thanks :-) reading it now, I will see if i am wrong or if this is my gnome installation messed!
[06:10] <bretzel> (hum- sorry for those understanding french bad words - expecially from quebec ) Maudit criss!
[06:10] <Po0ky> does anyone know how to make your own gfxmenu in grub?
[06:11] <Po0ky> for grub
[06:11] <Po0ky> :)
[06:11] <bretzel> snowblink: working :-) -- The worse is that I was about to try moving the folder into the .icons dir ...
[06:11] <snowblink> bretzel: good stuff
[06:14] <pybe-lappy> bretzel: there is a bug =)
[06:15] <pybe-lappy> bretzel: mv ~/.themes/TuxnTosh ~/.icons
[06:16] <pybe-lappy> bretzel: apparently the install button installs it wrong =)
[06:17] <bretzel> pybe-lappy: yes this is what I've done :-) -- sorry for the late repond - I was AFK
[06:18] <stacey> I need some help w/ rsync, anybody know about that?
[06:19] <pybe-lappy> stacey: used it a bit before
[06:19] <stacey> specifically how to make a rsync.conf or rsyncd.conf
[06:19] <stacey> I get: rsync: failed to connect to mombassa: Connection refused
[06:19] <stacey> rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(93)
[06:19] <stacey> mombassa is my own machine
[06:20] <stacey> the man page talks about rsyncd.conf, I
[06:20] <pybe-lappy> stacey: whats the command line your using?
[06:20] <stacey> 've made both at this point
[06:20] <stacey> rsync mombassa: or rsync mombassa::
[06:20] <stacey> trying to get a list of modules
[06:21] <pybe-lappy> what are you trying to achive? sync a location between to machines?
[06:22] <stacey> just trying to test rsync at this point by getting a list of available modules
[06:22] <bretzel> ok ciao all thanks again :-)
[06:23] <stacey> actually, I get 2 different errors, "rsync mombassa:" gives- stacey@mombassa:~ $ rsync mombassa:
[06:23] <stacey> ssh: connect to host mombassa port 22: Connection refused
[06:23] <stacey> rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes read so far)
[06:23] <stacey> rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(343)
[06:23] <stacey> "rsync mombassa::" gives- stacey@mombassa:~ $ rsync mombassa::
[06:23] <stacey> rsync: failed to connect to mombassa: Connection refused
[06:23] <stacey> rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(93)
[06:24] <pybe-lappy> dont know about modules i just usually:  rsync -azv -e ssh --progress --stats /source/path/ targetip:/target/path
[06:25] <pybe-lappy> does mombassa have 22 open?
[06:25] <MeMa|Sorcerer> hallo
[06:26] <stacey> pybe-lappy: how would I tell if 22 is open? /etc/services doesn't have 22 commented out
[06:27] <pybe-lappy> stacey: can you telnet to it maybe
[06:28] <stacey> telnet? it's an ssh port. but no, I can't ssh to it either, hmmm...
[06:28] <awstott> port scan it with nmap?
[06:29] <pybe-lappy> you can connect to any open port with telnet
[06:29] <pybe-lappy> telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 22
[06:29] <pybe-lappy> Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...
[06:29] <pybe-lappy> Connected to <IP_ADDRESS>.
[06:29] <pybe-lappy> Escape character is '^] '.
[06:29] <pybe-lappy> SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.9p1 Debian-1ubuntu1
[06:30] <will> my whole sound system is playing at 2x speed after running cedega and then stoping/re.starting GDM
[06:30] <will> anyone any ideas?
[06:30] <BockBilbo> hello again
[06:31] <pybe-lappy> stacey: does it have a firewall?
[06:31] <stacey> pybe-lappy: no, I can't telnet to it either. I guess that's the real problem
[06:31] <pybe-lappy> stacey: looks like it
[06:31] <stacey> how do I fix it?
[06:31] <pybe-lappy> stacey: whats the dist?
[06:31] <stacey> check /etc/services
[06:31] <awstott> is it on?
[06:31] <stacey> Warty
[06:31] <pybe-lappy> stacey: installed ssh?
[06:32] <awstott> you want ot turn off ssh or turn it on?
[06:32] <stiggy> hi guys
[06:32] <stacey> I can ssh out, I guess I need an ssh-server?
[06:32] <pybe-lappy> stacey: here you go http://ubuntuguide.org/#installssh
[06:33] <stacey> thx
[06:33] <pybe-lappy> np
[06:36] <lupus_> how can I get an account for rosetta?
[06:37] <lupus_> nm
[06:38] <pybe-lappy> lupus_: whats rosetta
[06:40] <lupus_> https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/rosetta
[06:45] <LaurenceRowe> which package does /usr/bin/pdb (python debugger) live in?
[06:45] <Po0ky> does ubuntu uses a patched version of grub?
[06:47] <HappyFool> LaurenceRowe: there's a pydb package
[06:48] <Gwildor> hello :)
[06:48] <HappyFool> a few months back i tried to get that (i think?) working with ddd without success. that was on fedora, though
[06:48] <Gwildor> i need some help zipping a dir
[06:48] <Gwildor> i tried gzip <dirname>, but it yelled at me
[06:49] <LaurenceRowe> hmm but emacs wants standard pdb. The debian python packages have it
[06:49] <HappyFool> try 'tar czf foo.tar.gz foo/'
[06:50] <Gwildor> HappyFool: can a tar.gz be "unTarred" in M$?
[06:50] <LaurenceRowe> Gwildor: winzip does tgz. otherwise install zip
[06:50] <HappyFool> LaurenceRowe: pdb is a standard python package. /usr/lib/python2.3/pdb.py ?
[06:50] <erik> hey, I at some point typed in the actual DPI of my monitor into some config dialog.  I forget where.    Anyone know where this would go?
[06:51] <LaurenceRowe> HappyFool: yes, but debian python packages also have a /usr/bin/pdb wrapper so from emacs youcan M-x pdb
[06:52] <tungsten> trying to load mysql-server
[06:53] <tungsten> error depend libdbi-perl not installable?
[06:53] <HappyFool> LaurenceRowe: hrm. when M-x pdb asks "how to execute", try /usr/lib/python2.3/pdb.py <python-file>
[06:53] <HappyFool> LaurenceRowe: i guess you could just make a symbolic link from /usr/bin/pdb or $HOME/bin/pdb to the python file
[06:54] <HappyFool> or figure out which emacs variable to set
[06:57] <BockBilbo> is there any good gnome app in the ubuntu repositories to decrypt .pgp files???
[06:58] <erGoline> hi! any guru of X configuration (sis630/730 + LCD panel) here?
[06:59] <Gwildor> HappyFool: thnx alot, 'tar czf foo.tar.gz foo/' worked great
[06:59] <kagou> hi
[06:59] <tungsten> error depend libdbi-perl not installable?
[06:59] <lonewolff> hi there i wonder if anyone can help, i just installed ubuntu all went well but not the gui wont start
[06:59] <kagou> where can i found old version of a package ?
[06:59] <tungsten> I have around 8 sources in synaptic
[06:59] <lonewolff> after the test part of the startup my screen goes blank
[07:01] <tungsten> the package is in ftp.ale.org/pub/mirrors/ubuntu/pool/main/libd/ - 3k
[07:01] <tungsten> how do I add this to synaptic?
[07:02] <stiggy> he everyone.... can i ask a n00b question? lol
[07:03] <kagou> stiggy, go !
[07:03] <stiggy> what should i treat as my "program files" directory in linux?
[07:03] <stiggy> i'm just installing newest firefox
[07:03] <tungsten> never mind interestingly a reload in synaptic picked it up
[07:04] <zenrox> /usr/local/ /usr /opt
[07:04] <tungsten> it's interesting because I did a reload of synaptic around two weeks ago
[07:04] <bretzel> Hi again !!
[07:04] <stiggy> zenrox: was that to me?
[07:04] <zenrox> yes
[07:04] <stiggy> thanks
[07:04] <zenrox> any one of thoes
[07:05] <bretzel> I want everybody laugh at me please!!!!!! - here why:
[07:05] <zenrox> pref /usr/local cause it wont casue as many conficts
[07:05] <ssam> ergoline hello
[07:05] <erGoline> hi ssam :) I try every day the same question ;)
[07:05] <ssam> yes i have
[07:06] <ssam> shall i email it?
[07:06] <bretzel> Yesterday I was complining about nautilus inability to provide ctx menu for burning ISO images files ...
[07:06] <Chang> Is there a tracker up for Array-3?
[07:06] <tungsten> this is nice ubuntu using perl 5.8
[07:06] <stiggy> it says "Can't make destination diretory" - how do i run the graphical firefox install as root?
[07:07] <k31th> does this distro support rpm's at all ?
[07:07] <k31th> only i cant get cinerella to compile
[07:07] <bretzel> The ISO filename was all uppercase thus.ISO - but I've just tried with the ext. iso as lowercase in the filename -- and duh! it works!
[07:07] <Bigglez> Anyone know what Totem can do? It don't seem to play d*ck out of the box...
[07:09] <erGoline> ssam, are you talking to me? Do you get the xf86config?
[07:09] <bretzel> Bigglez: pluggins; libs etc ... In previous ubuntu installation I can't remeber what I have installed - but it played almost ALL video stuff: wvm, divs; mpeg etc .... But right now I can't redo it :-(
[07:09] <ssam> ergoline /msg me you email and i'll send you the x config
[07:09] <bretzel> divx I mean
[07:10] <Bigglez> bretzel - do you mean I must 'upgrade' it first? I'm asking what it does direct from the cd - 1st run.
[07:10] <erGoline> ssam, thanks! you're great!
[07:11] <HappyFool> Bigglez: have you looked at ubuntuguide.org ? there's a section on codecs / dvd playback / etc
[07:11] <bretzel> Bigglez: bah, you may upgrade, but what I know is that we need the pluggins;codecs for it to be able to play the corresponding video-codec files
[07:12] <Bigglez> I get all that (and I am upgrading), but I just wonder about the app's use in the first place. No biggie!
[07:12] <bretzel> BTW: even if libdvdcss2 is installed, I can;t play DVD films - I was able to do it in my previous installation of Ubuntu - I don;t know what I am missing this time
[07:13] <Bigglez> I am going to try for Mplayer - that always worked for me under Fedora
[07:13] <HappyFool> Bigglez: patent, trade secret and other intellectual property issues
[07:13] <bretzel> Happyfool: Ah! thanks for your link, I go to that site now :-)
[07:13] <snowblink> hi, can anyoen recommend some good podcasting s/w (to get rather than record)?
[07:14] <Bigglez> HappyFool - yeah, sure, but why include a media-player if it can;t play any media?
[07:14] <stiggy> is firefox 0.9.3 the latest one on this distro? my synptic seems to think it is
[07:15] <ssam> stiggy yes
[07:15] <HappyFool> Bigglez: well, the audio players can play "free" formats. not sure about the video players. it's a good question though ;)
[07:15] <Bigglez> Stiggy - go Help->About in FF and check
[07:15] <ssam> stiggy if you want 1.0 its in backports
[07:15] <froust> stiggy: in warty, yes.. in hoary, no
[07:15] <Bigglez> Must say, am new to Debain/Ubu and so far I am waaaay impressed. I even like Gnome. Who woulda thunk?
[07:16] <HappyFool> well, the greatest thing imo is apt
[07:16] <HappyFool> yum is not quite as good ;)
[07:16] <erik> does anyone know how to set the DPI of my display?
[07:16] <erik> my fonts are all way too big
[07:17] <ssam> erik, cant you set smaller fonts
[07:17] <gusto> anyone had any problems using oidentd. I only get ERROR : NO USER ?
[07:17] <stiggy> oh, ao i am up-to-date then, lol.... that saves me a job
[07:17] <mojo__> well, take the physical size and divide by the resolution.  Your dpi will probably be different in each direction (horiz/vert), where print output is usually 1:1
[07:17] <HappyFool> erik: how about this: Computer-Desktop Preferences->Font, then choose "Details"
[07:17] <erik> ssam: not using GNOME though
[07:17] <HappyFool> I see a little "DPI" setting there
[07:18] <bretzel> stiggy: About firefox: I can't tell you exactly which source but I did an upgrade through  synaptic and got Firefox 1.0 :-)
[07:18] <erik> what if I'm gnome-less?
[07:18] <Bigglez> erik - what are you using then
[07:18] <erik> uh
[07:18] <erik> programs talking to an X server? it's irrelevant really
[07:18] <Bigglez> If not gnome?
[07:18] <Bigglez> oookay
[07:19] <erik> fvwm
[07:19] <ficusplanet> Hey everyone.  Are the entries to the Web site redesign context posted anywhere online?
[07:19] <Po0ky> Where does ubuntu load his default user configuration from? or is it all hard coded into the mainmod
[07:19] <gusto> so anyone using oidentd here and would help me out a bit?
[07:19] <cg0def> I have world added to my pkg db and still the only versions of most packages that I see I pretty outdated
[07:19] <cg0def> how can I fix that
[07:19] <erik> Po0ky: probably /etc/skel
[07:20] <erik> hm, that's just bash stuff
[07:20] <erik> it must be hard coded into gnome
[07:20] <Po0ky> crp ;)
[07:20] <entius> hi
[07:20] <entius> hi, i am having troubles when compiling modperl2 after having compiled apache2 rightly.
[07:20] <entius> The message error is: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl
[07:20] <entius> Google search says that or:
[07:20] <entius> "What it is saying is that it cannot find Perl on your system.  Make sure Perl is installed and that ld ( the linker ) can find it."
[07:20] <entius> (Perl is installed, so i don't understand) or:
[07:20] <entius> "apt-get install libperl5.6 libperl-dev"
[07:20] <entius> I've tried to install both libperl5.6 or libperl-dev, but i haven't found them in repositories.
[07:20] <entius> What can i do?
[07:20] <Osis> anyone know how to install NdisLoader or DriverLoader onto ubuntu?
[07:21] <Po0ky> k, and what about grub :) how do you create a grub/messages file
[07:21] <eyequeue> entius:  libperl5.8 ?  you have old google info
[07:21] <ficusplanet> Osis, ndiswrapper is already in the kernel.  Just search for it on the wiki.
[07:21] <Osis> i need one of them to get my Wireless cardbus driver for my laptop
[07:21] <Osis> oh i see
[07:21] <entius> probably, have i to install libperl-dev?
[07:22] <entius> i will try ...
[07:23] <Osis> i can't seem to find ndisloader
[07:23] <Osis> :(
[07:23] <Osis> i'm a linux nub sry
[07:24] <HappyFool> erik: have you tried 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' ?
[07:24] <stiggy> does anyone know how to fix this?
[07:24] <stiggy> Errors were encountered while processing: locales, lsb, ubuntu-desktop
[07:24] <entius> it seems to work, this chat is amazing, just hours and hours and just 15 seconds after having entered i've solve my problem!
[07:24] <HappyFool> erik: that's a bit of a guess, though
[07:27] <stiggy> i'm getting it when runnin anything in synaptic
[07:27] <TTilus> stiggy: are those packages marked "broken"?
[07:27] <MeMa|Sorcerer> hallo
[07:28] <stiggy> i don't think so.. i'm following the "unofficial ubuntu guide" and using apt-get
[07:28] <TTilus> stiggy: have you ckecked?
[07:28] <Osis> can someone tell me how to use and/or find ndisloader
[07:28] <HappyFool> if you're using apt-get, close synaptic.
[07:29] <tritium> stiggy, in a terminal, "dpkg --configure --pending", and then "apt-get -f install"
[07:29] <snowblink> Osis: apt-cache search ndis
[07:29] <Osis> rgr
[07:29] <Osis> it only finds the source that i installed
[07:30] <Osis> and the version driverloader i tried to install
[07:30] <sprwal> hi all, I just upgraded to hoary but no sound from totem...
[07:30] <Gusto_> no one uses oidentd?
[07:30] <snowblink> Osis: ndiswrapper-utils
[07:30] <njan> sprwal, does sound work with anything else?
[07:30] <sprwal> the rest of the sistem is playing well
[07:30] <sprwal> yea
[07:30] <stiggy> tritium: i get the same error when running that 1st command u gave me
[07:30] <sprwal> njan, the system sounds are ok.
[07:30] <njan> sprwal, killall esd, close and reopen totem, and see if that makes a difference
[07:31] <sprwal> let'sse
[07:31] <Osis> k
[07:31] <njan> sprwal, it's probably because gnome 2.9 with hoary runs the enlightenment sound daemon by default and afaik totem won't output to esd. It'll be trying alsa, and since alsa is locked (by esd), it doesn't give you sound
[07:31] <njan> sprwal, if you start it (or xmms, if you have xmms set to alsa output) from a terminal you'll see all of the alsa breakage messages.
[07:31] <sprwal> xmms seems broken to me
[07:31] <sprwal> a library problem I guess
[07:32] <Osis> wut do i do in the utils foldeR?
[07:32] <sprwal> njan, yea it's working now
[07:32] <njan> sprwal, esd is your problem
[07:32] <sprwal> it's the esd stuff
[07:32] <njan> sprwal, you can either configure xmms to output via esd (in preferences) or tell gnome not to start esd
[07:33] <sprwal> mh so I got to make totem work with esd, or yea that
[07:33] <njan> the one disadvantage of removing esd is that you only have one sound source at a time.
[07:33] <njan> yeah.
[07:33] <sprwal> mh nono
[07:33] <sprwal> better work with esd
[07:33] <njan> THere's an option in gnome's sounds configuration screen for 'sound daemon' - I can't remember the exact wording of it.
[07:33] <sprwal> anyhow, hoary it's impressive
[07:33] <Aurel_> is unrar working for you ?
[07:33] <TTilus> stiggy: can you start synapti?  is it workin?
[07:33] <sprwal> I would just like to say THanks to the laptop team
[07:33] <njan> sprwal, :).. I like it. Glad your sound now works ;)
[07:33] <sprwal> I can suspend now, on a toshiba m30-103
[07:34] <TTilus> stiggy: if it is, search those packages that gave errors and check their state
[07:34] <stiggy> ttilus: it starts fine but comes up with errors after downloading and trying to install
[07:34] <sprwal> the worst laptop on the earth on this
[07:34] <sprwal> so
[07:34] <TTilus> stiggy: what are you trying to download and install?
[07:35] <TTilus> stiggy: those packages u get complaints about or something else?
[07:35] <johanh> hey, anyone know how to install mono on an ibook (hoary)?
[07:36] <stiggy> ttilis: i get those errors when trying to install anything
[07:36] <TTilus> stiggy: so you get synaptic up and running, search for locales and check state of that package
[07:53] <tritium> stiggy, did you use sudo to run those commands I gave you?
[07:55] <hawk16> hey, what is the exact command to adjust the screen resolution manually?
[07:56] <LinuxJones> hawk16, you will need to edit a file then re-start the xserver
[07:57] <hawk16> ok
[07:57] <hawk16> what is the command to edit the file
[07:58] <LinuxJones> sudo gedit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[07:58] <LinuxJones> hawk16, add your user's password when prompted
[07:59] <lonewolff> hi there, should ubuntu be able to work on with a pci graphics card?
[07:59] <zAo^> yes lonewolff
[07:59] <lonewolff> because when i use one i only get the test part of the boot sequence but it doesent work in gdm but when i use onboard graphics it work fine
[08:00] <lonewolff> s/test/text
[08:00] <tritium> hawk16, did you try the "Screen Resolution" capplet?
[08:01] <lonewolff> other linux distro's have had no problems with the cards, so i know they work
[08:01] <LinuxJones> tritium, I dfon't know anybody who that has worked for :D
[08:01] <tritium> works for me
[08:02] <tritium> LinuxJones, now you do ;)
[08:03] <LinuxJones> tritium, thanks :)
[08:03] <tritium> :)
[08:03] <klaym> I lost my gnome panels after I had upgraded to Hoary, and I've tried almost everything: apt-get install -f upgrade, dist-upgrade, I've reinstalled gnome-panel and evolution
[08:04] <klaym> anything to do?
[08:04] <defile> klaym, probably something in your .gconf or .gnome* files it doesn't like
[08:04] <LinuxJones> klaym, they might appear if you wait long enough. Did you add any new applets to the panel ?
[08:05] <Gusto_> same thing happened to me
[08:05] <Gusto_> no panels after upgrading
[08:05] <LinuxJones> klaym, I jhad same problem it was the Update Notifiew that caused it for me
[08:05] <LinuxJones> god my typing :(
[08:06] <notdenizen> hi all, I've got a pretty general question. Is there a way to restrict a single applications access to the internet in linux? Similiar to what ZoneAlarm does in windows, an application level firewall as opposed to a network level. I've considered running it in a chroot with a broken resolv.conf, but that wont help if it uses an IP instead of a name. Anyone got a better idea ?
[08:08] <defile> notdenizen, L7 support for iptables isn't generally available by default
[08:10] <notdenizen> but "l7 iptables" in google has brought up a howto. Thanks! :)
[08:11] <defile> you're welcome ;-)
[08:11] <resiak> I really hate myself for asking this question, but ... I'm attempting to fix0r ALSA on a buddy's Ubuntu box. The symptoms are remeniscent of my problems which I fixed (on Debian, FWIW) by blacklisting snd_intel8x0m, but his laptop is another breed of chip which apparently likes snd_atiixp. I'm suspicious that the problems could be, once again, modem-related. Any clues?
[08:12] <klaym> LinuxJones: so how did you get it fixed?
[08:12] <LinuxJones> klaym, I logged in and waited for about 3 or 4 mins and it came up eventually
[08:12] <LinuxJones> klaym, then I removed the applet and it worked fine afterwards
[08:15] <klaym> ok. I wish I remembered which was the last applet I installed
[08:16] <LinuxJones> klaym, it was the (Apt) Update Notifier that went wonky for me.
[08:19] <aalion> any solutions on the Grub loading please wait .... Error 18 ?
[08:21] <bur[n] er> aalion: google/
[08:22] <aalion> lol google doesnt likes me :(
[08:22] <klaym> LinuxJones: so you uninstalled it?
[08:28] <Parallax_> hi
[08:28] <Po0ky> Is there a place (cvs or sth) where all source files are located used with grub?
[08:28] <LinuxJones> klaym, no I just removed it from the panel
[08:30] <Kinema> what is the state of KDE in Ubuntu?
[08:31] <Riddell> Kinema: KDE 3.3.2 is in hoary
[08:31] <Freedomzen> Hi all I just bought an AMD64 proc and I want to install ubuntu64 on it but I read in the forums that there were problems with grub on the install as far as it going into an infanite loop I was wondering if that bug has been fixed in the current iso?
[08:31] <Kinema> what is Ubuntu's version of sid/unstable?
[08:31] <Freedomzen> Kinema: hoary
[08:35] <zeR> Hello
[08:35] <zeR> I have a problem with my internet connection (i have ISDN)
[08:36] <HaRDaWaY> hello people
[08:36] <zeR> if i connect (gpppon blinks in yellow) and i can't acces any site or ping it. But i am able to ping IP's..Any ideas?
[08:36] <HaRDaWaY> i have one problem, when i try to make: apt-get install linux-686 apt tell me this:
[08:36] <HaRDaWaY> Imposible obtener http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  La suma MD5 difiere
[08:36] <HaRDaWaY> why? :(
[08:37] <regeya> try running apt-get update again (or reload list if you're using synaptic)
[08:38] <HaRDaWaY> regeya,  i do it,but....nothing
[08:38] <HaRDaWaY> :\
[08:39] <nir> Do I have links or some other browser on plain new ubuntu?
[08:39] <nir> X?
[08:40] <Kinema> where can i get a hoary "sounder" iso?  the wiki points to http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/sounder-test/current/ but I only see warty images there
[08:40] <Po0ky> Where can I find the gfxboot stuff that ubuntu used?
[08:41] <tritium> sladen, ping
[08:42] <nico|m> hi!
[08:43] <zeR> hello nico|m
[08:43] <nico|m> i'm using ubuntu (hoary) and many translations in gnome programs are gone for some days now. is that normal (moving to gnome 2.10) or did i break something?
[08:44] <Gusto_> can anyone help me get ident working?
[08:44] <Soulstorm> alo alo!
[08:45] <Soulstorm> has anybody here had the problem where the mouse cursor jumps randomly all over the screen?
[08:46] <Rotundo> I have
[08:46] <Rotundo> I assumed it was my crappy mouse
[08:46] <Soulstorm> is there any way to fix it?
[08:46] <nico|m> Soulstorm: totally randomly, all the time? or just a little bit sometimes?
[08:46] <Soulstorm> just sometimes
[08:47] <Soulstorm> according to google it seems to be an issue related to optical mice
[08:47] <nico|m> Soulstorm:  i was suspecting your ps2 <-> bus mouse settings in xorg.conf, but that would make the mouse jump around like mad...
[08:47] <santiago> Hi, I need to install ubuntu via network in my dell inspiront 700m, is there a way to do without boot floopies?
[08:47] <mirak> hi
[08:47] <Rotundo> santiago: a boot cd ?
[08:47] <mirak> anyone ever heard of a usable mixer for  sblive 5.1 with alsa drivers ?
[08:48] <Soulstorm> nico|m: tell me what these settins should look like
[08:48] <santiago> Rotundo, I can use my cd drive
[08:48] <mirak> santiago: it's ok then
[08:48] <mirak> santiago: in fact the ubuntu cd install a functional desktop
[08:48] <Rotundo> santiago: I didn't even know they had floppy disks for ubuntu :)
[08:49] <Rotundo> santiago: the ubuntu install was the most painless process I've ever had installing anything
[08:49] <nico|m> Soulstorm: my "InputDevice" section in xorg.conf has "/dev/input/mice" as "Device", "ImPS/2" as "Protocol", i think these are the most important settings. although the first one may look different when not using devfs
[08:49] <santiago> Rotundo, mirak, my cd drive is "damaged", and meanwhile Dell sends me another, I want to install ubuntu via net
[08:50] <santiago> Rotundo, mirak, I don't have a floopy drive, but I could use the USB
[08:50] <Rotundo> santiago: oh you meant "I can't use my cd"
[08:50] <santiago> Rotundo, yes
[08:50] <Dishwasher> How do you configure the kernel?
[08:50] <Rotundo> santiago: do you have a Gnu/linux on the box now ?
[08:50] <nico|m> i'm using ubuntu (hoary) and many translations in gnome programs are gone for some days now. is that normal (moving to gnome 2.10) or did i break something?
[08:51] <Soulstorm> I also have that - I changed "Imps/2" to "PS/2" but that does the same thing
[08:51] <Dishwasher> I don't have a floppy drive, and everytime i boot up, it gives me a fatal error trying to find floppy
[08:51] <santiago> Rotundo, on that box (It comes with windows :S), no, but in another
[08:51] <resiak> Huh... If I am not very much mistaken, echo atiixp >> /etc/hotplug/blacklist should stop it from loading, correct?
[08:51] <nico|m> Soulstorm: imps/2 is pretty much the same i think. do you have a second mouse to test with?
[08:51] <eyequeue> resiak:  sudo it, but yes
[08:51] <mirak> santiago: you can maybe use a usb cd rom
[08:52] <eyequeue> resiak:  presuming that's the right spelling
[08:52] <mirak> would be the simplest thing
[08:52] <Dishwasher> hey eyequeue, how do i configure the kernel in which the floppy is not searched for?
[08:52] <mirak> santiago: the other methos are booting from network, I already did it, but that's not easy
[08:52] <mirak> santiago: I did it on debian
[08:52] <resiak> eyequeue: It is the right spelling.
[08:52] <eyequeue> Dishwasher:  you may be trying to load some module?  see if there's something in /etc/modules that shouldn't be
[08:53] <Dishwasher> ty
[08:53] <eyequeue> resiak:  np then
[08:53] <Rotundo> santiago: I remember long ago when I used windows there was a way to boot into linux directly from windows using a kernel image, but that required an already installed system
[08:53] <eyequeue> Rotundo:  loadlin ?
[08:53] <santiago> mirak, i could try to boot from network
[08:53] <Soulstorm> nico|m: don't have a second mouse...
[08:54] <Rotundo> yes it was loadlin
[08:54] <santiago> mirak, but I can find a document that don't use a floopy disk
[08:54] <eyequeue> Rotundo:  you're stretching my memory cells :)
[08:54] <Dishwasher> ok eyequeue, i found it, but im not sure which one to comment
[08:54] <Rotundo> hehe
[08:54] <Soulstorm> but I think you are right - it's the cheap optical mouse that is freaking out
[08:54] <Dishwasher> i've got disk, but i think that might be my hard drive right?
[08:54] <eyequeue> Dishwasher:  i would first try one, reboot and watch, then try the other :)
[08:54] <resiak> Hmm. Why on earth does ide_core use atiixp?
[08:54] <Dishwasher> lol
[08:54] <Dishwasher> im still a newbie to this linux stuff
[08:54] <eyequeue> Dishwasher:  disk is very likely your hard drive, which you do want :)
[08:54] <Dishwasher> lol
[08:55] <santiago> Rotundo, i don't how to do that
[08:55] <Dishwasher> hmm, i bet you it might be ide generic
[08:55] <Dishwasher> i'll try that
[08:55] <santiago> Rotundo, don't know
[08:55] <Dishwasher> ty eyequeue
[08:55] <Rotundo> eyequeue: is there a way to install a system using loadlin ?
[08:55] <eyequeue> a generic ide driver is probably quite necessary to read an ide drive such as your hard drive
[08:55] <Necrosan> problem, im trying to compile a camera driver for my friends comp, and i keep getting this.
[08:56] <Necrosan> make: *** /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-4-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[08:56] <Rotundo> santiago: you may be out of luck
[08:56] <Necrosan> What do I need to apt-get to make it compile?
[08:56] <eyequeue> Rotundo:  years ago i might have recalled more ab out it.  i never used it, just saw others talk about it though
[08:56] <resiak> Oh smegging hell...
[08:57] <Necrosan> Anyone?
[08:58] <mirak> santiago: google pxe etherboot
[08:58] <stazich> hey
[08:58] <santiago> mirak, thanks
[08:58] <mirak> santiago: you can boot from network without drive if you are lucky
[08:58] <stazich> can anyone tell me something about installing ubuntu onto an iMac?
[08:59] <Necrosan> stazich, simple, stick the cd in, hold c down and boot
[08:59] <Levia> anyone installed ubuntu on an AOpen 1557? the installation just hangs when booting. (i've tried with nodma, noapic, nofb ... )
[08:59] <leduc> nobody have tested the hoary array 3 ?
[08:59] <stazich> i am now downloading the ISO from the mirror, i am going to then burn in onto cd.. problem is i have this 9.2 imac with which i am totally unfamiliar... just wanted to ask how do i boot the disk then...
[09:00] <stazich> is there any boot order on mac like on pc??
[09:00] <bobalien> i want to say there's a key you can hold down to boot from the cd
[09:00] <Necrosan> stazich, read what i just said.
[09:00] <bobalien> but that could be older Mac
[09:00] <bobalien> or i could be making it up
[09:01] <Necrosan> So is there any way I can get the /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-4-386/build directory without rebuilding the whole kernel?
[09:01] <Necrosan> or is the kernel-build for that not released for some reason?
[09:02] <santiago> mirak, I'll try, if it doesn't work, I'll use the USB
[09:02] <stazich> ok
[09:02] <will> All sound on my system (basic unchanged ubuntu install defaults) have sped up to at least 2x, this occured after running cedega 4 to play SOF2, it almost crashed so i:
[09:02] <will> CTRL ALT F1, login, and
[09:02] <will> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:02] <will> (waited).... then
[09:02] <will> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:02] <will> (CTRL ALT BACKSPACE did not work)
[09:02] <will> and scince then all has been madness :( cant listen to mp3s (seriously) or watch films etc. Gnome SFX sounds like its on steroids!
[09:02] <will> any ideas are much appreciated.
[09:02] <will> Will
[09:02] <will> oops sorry
[09:03] <santiago> thanks #ubuntu
[09:04] <will> did not mean to paste all that in
[09:04] <Dishwasher> eyequeue no dice man,
[09:05] <Dishwasher> exit
[09:06] <jcoxon77> stazich: hi, i have an apple iBook g4 and to make it boot a cd you hold down C when you boot it up
[09:07] <theine> hi, i recently upgraded to hoary (which is very, very nice) and now there are hundreds of device files in /dev. what is that? doesn't look very udev-like...
[09:09] <stazich> thatnx guys
[09:09] <stazich> i tried, it works
[09:10] <stazich> anyone know what to write to create a partition ? i write c 6 (G).. the install tells me Bad name
[09:10] <Nonphasis> anyone w/ via8235 sound card?
[09:11] <Nonphasis> spdif stopped working warty->hoary
[09:12] <Nonphasis> perhaps I'll just copy the driver source file over from warty and recompile the hoary kernel...
[09:12] <Nonphasis> or just the .ko file
[09:18] <tigerfirestorm> After help for enabling root GDM login - i had it working before but but forgotten how and the site that told me.  I know about the Gnom Config tweak to enable root login - the problem is not this but PAM configuartion in /etc/pam.d.  Any helpers - I make a promise to add a HowTo Dual Boot with VMware if anyone can help.  I have Ubuntu working on a physical partition and dual booting it including XF86Config under VMware unde
[09:19] <LinuxJones> tigerfirestorm, sudo gdmsetup I think
[09:19] <tigerfirestorm> nope thats the bit i emntioned that i already know about - there is more to it than this
[09:20] <tigerfirestorm> PAM /etc/pam.d/... config change is required!
[09:20] <LinuxJones> tigerfirestorm, sorry there is no root account to login unless you've enabled the root account
[09:21] <tigerfirestorm> ditto - there is always a root acount under debian/ubuntu - but GDM login is disabled by default
[09:21] <tigerfirestorm> real helpers please
[09:21] <Rotundo> ubuntu has no root account
[09:21] <Rotundo> debian does
[09:21] <tigerfirestorm> ubuntu does
[09:21] <Soulstorm> ubuntu does
[09:22] <Rotundo> thats not what the install says
[09:22] <tigerfirestorm> try recovery mode and login as single user root from the console greeter rather than grahical CGD
[09:22] <Soulstorm> it's disabled by default
[09:22] <tigerfirestorm> GDM
[09:22] <Rotundo> exactly
[09:22] <Soulstorm> open root terminal and set the password
[09:23] <Rotundo> otherwise it never asked me for a password, and that whould make me very unhappy :)
[09:23] <tigerfirestorm> i see -- you guys and gals are all linux virgins!
[09:23] <Soulstorm> anyway - I have a weird problem...
[09:23] <Neo_654> anyone know a good torrent site for finding distro torrents?
[09:24] <Soulstorm> still the mouse thing, but I think I know what is wrong
[09:24] <Rotundo> tigerfirestorm: I've been a debian user since '96
[09:24] <Soulstorm> can anybody tell me how to set the sync speed with my mouse
[09:24] <tigerfirestorm> everybody gets a root under linux excpet the virgins! :-)
[09:25] <Soulstorm> is there no config file where I can set the speed a bit slower
[09:25] <Soulstorm> ??
[09:25] <tigerfirestorm> see whta i mean !
[09:25] <r3v3rb> crazy people. what am i doing wrong. i have a completely fresh install from a warty cd. yet still the OOo autopilot refuses to work
[09:26] <estebandido> i'm getting an error that nautilus can't be used. if i delete my gnome prefs, will that fix it?
[09:26] <tigerfirestorm> uninstall and reinstall the ooo from synaptic
[09:26] <r3v3rb> ok
[09:26] <r3v3rb> will try
[09:26] <tigerfirestorm> check your cd md5 also
[09:26] <r3v3rb> is it a known problem ?
[09:27] <r3v3rb> cd is fine. ;) from a cover disk here in da uk
[09:27] <tigerfirestorm> i just reinstall and had a bad ooo...list deb pkg list file
[09:27] <r3v3rb> also can i run xfce on warty ?
[09:27] <tigerfirestorm> had to hack the file to make synaptic work then removed and re-installed tha packed to fix it!
[09:27] <Rotundo> r3v3rb: apt-get install abiword-gnome :)
[09:28] <Freedomzen> any amd64 users here or is there another channel
[09:28] <Freedomzen> ?
[09:28] <klaym_> if I want to reinstall two programs, do I do it like this: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-panel gnome-core' ?
[09:28] <Soulstorm> how do i set my mouse to 1200 ???
[09:28] <tigerfirestorm> package sorry
[09:28] <tigerfirestorm> run synaptic!
[09:28] <r3v3rb> rotundo :P
[09:29] <Freedomzen> Soulstorm: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/276386
[09:29] <estebandido> hey, i need to know if i should delete my gnome prefs
[09:29] <Rotundo> estebandito: what is your error message?
[09:29] <randabis> r3v3rb, you can fun xfce on warty just fine
[09:30] <bobalien> out of curiousity - is rebooting gnome (Ctrl + Alt + Bkspce) any different than logging in / logging out?
[09:30] <estebandido> nautilus can't be used now
[09:30] <bobalien> er, logging out / logging in
[09:30] <tigerfirestorm> for the user in the home dir is ok - you can create another new user and copy accross
[09:30] <Wad> hi all
[09:30] <Soulstorm> Freedomzen - that was EggZackly what I was looking for
[09:30] <tigerfirestorm> cp  -a /home/newuser/* /home/olduser/
[09:30] <Soulstorm> I've been battling for ages and not even google wanted to talk to me :(
[09:31] <randabis> bobalien yes, I believe ctrl alt backspace completely kills the x server and restarts it while logging in and out just takes you back to the login screen
[09:31] <bobalien> thnks
[09:31] <bobalien> just curious
[09:31] <Rotundo> estebandido: does it give a reason?
[09:32] <Sav> Can anyone recomend a good texteditor with ftp and color code. Im used to HomeSidae in windows and need a simular to ubuntu =)
[09:32] <randabis> also ctrl alt backspace won't save your settings while logging out and back in will
[09:32] <r3v3rb> randabis just found it in synaptic ! :)
[09:32] <Soulstorm> Sav - try bluefish
[09:32] <randabis> r3v3rb, cool, but that's an older version I recommend getting the new version from www.xfce.org
[09:32] <Sav> ok ill check it out, any other suggestions?
[09:32] <estebandido> Rotundo: unexpected error
[09:32] <Soulstorm> Screem
[09:33] <estebandido> it says to kill the bonobo server
[09:33] <r3v3rb> ok
[09:33] <estebandido> i've restarted several times
[09:33] <r3v3rb> will do randabis
[09:33] <BockBilbo> hello
[09:33] <BockBilbo> can anyoen tell me how hard is to configue the bootsplah package?
[09:34] <r3v3rb> whats the xfree config command again chaps
[09:34] <Rotundo> estebandido: have you tried bonobo-slay
[09:34] <r3v3rb> what to change my video driver !
[09:34] <Wad> I want to know if someone  tried to install E17 on hoary ?
[09:35] <estebandido> no... do i just put that on the command line?
[09:35] <yukonjack> I wrote a How to change boot splash posted on Ubuntu forum
[09:36] <Rotundo> estebandido: yes
[09:36] <estebandido> i'l try it
[09:36] <yukonjack> BockBilbo is that what you mean
[09:37] <estebandido> still not working
[09:37] <Rotundo> hmm
[09:37] <estebandido> it says the settings daemon restarted too many times
[09:37] <Wad> estebandido : how did you instal it, because, when i try apt-get install enlightenment, it install E16.6 and i can't use it because i haven't got left-click menu ?
[09:38] <estebandido> from the cd i got in the mail
[09:38] <Wad> the cd ?
[09:38] <estebandido> yes
[09:38] <Rotundo> wad: the ubuntu cd of course
[09:38] <estebandido> yes
[09:39] <Rotundo> estebandido: and you can run everything but nautilus?
[09:39] <estebandido> i created a new user and logged in in xnest... same thing
[09:39] <estebandido> yes
[09:40] <r3v3rb> Rotundo, do you know how i can change the video driver under ubuntu
[09:40] <Rotundo> r3v3rb: you can manually edit your XF86Config (or whatever the x.org name is)
[09:40] <Orbo> looking for help, google couldnt find anything
[09:41] <estebandido> i can kill the bonobo activation server, but nautilus won't restart
[09:41] <Orbo> mplayer installs fine through synaptic, but there don't seem to be any sort of gui libraries or anything
[09:41] <Orbo> doesn't* seem
[09:41] <Rotundo> r3v3rb: or "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" would be how I would do it on debian
[09:43] <Rotundo> orbo: do you have a gmplayer  executable
[09:43] <estebandido> Rotundo: it says the authentication was rejected
[09:44] <Rotundo> orbo: /usr/bin/gmplayer is a link to /usr/bin/mplayer but starts it with a gui for me (I am running debian unstable here)
[09:44] <Rotundo> estebandido: are you trying to run it as a different user?
[09:45] <estebandido> not any more
[09:45] <estebandido> will deleting the prefs take care of this?
[09:45] <Rotundo> estebandido: have you tried killing everything that was remotely related to bonobo and then logging in ?
[09:45] <estebandido> no... i'll try that
[09:45] <Rotundo> estebandido: you could try that... maybe create a new user and log in
[09:46] <BockBilbo> .. yukojackkk
[09:46] <BockBilbo> :S
[09:46] <bodhi> i upgraded my kernel from 386 to 686, then gdm and xfree crashed and i had to change to nv driver, any idea?
[09:47] <BockBilbo> anyone knows where does yukojank have that howto???
[09:47] <Rotundo> bodhi: go back to 386 :)
[09:47] <tritium> hmm, I have to press power button twice after suspend to RAM
[09:47] <sri|work> how is hoary treating all of you?
[09:47] <bodhi> sure :)
[09:47] <sri|work> safe to upgrade to hoary from warty?
[09:47] <estebandido> still not working
[09:47] <estebandido> couldn
[09:48] <estebandido> 't register the panel with bonobo-activation-server
[09:48] <estebandido> so, now there's nothing at all on the screen except the pointer
[09:48] <J-jayz-Z> hey guys
[09:48] <Rotundo> estebandido: have you considered a different desktop? hehe - try a fresh user or delete all your prefs.
[09:48] <estebandido> ... that's what i was asking about
[09:48] <tritium> I think hdparm runs too early in boot sequence.  /dev/hdb (my cdrom) does not exist when /etc/init.d/hdparm is executed
[09:49] <J-jayz-Z> anybody of you has got a good/actual /etc/apt/sources.list of ubuntu for me ?
[09:49] <estebandido> should i delete .gconf and/or .gconfd?
[09:49] <godsmoke> what does that mean?
[09:50] <J-jayz-Z> a have got this one, ubuntu brought with ...
[09:50] <tritium> bodhi, you were using nvidia?
[09:50] <godsmoke> J-jayz-Z: I'm sorry, you're not making sense
[09:50] <bodhi> yrs, tritium
[09:50] <J-jayz-Z> godsmoke: why ?
[09:50] <tritium> bodhi, did you also install linux-restricted-modules -686 ?
[09:50] <gro> sri|work: define "safe"? ;)
[09:50] <godsmoke> J-jayz-Z: the words you're typing aren't making sentences I can understand
[09:50] <defile> J-jayz-Z, have you looked at ubuntuguide.org?
[09:51] <tritium> bodhi, you'll need that for nvidia driver
[09:51] <bodhi> no ... tritium
[09:51] <tritium> not just the kernel
[09:51] <bodhi> ok
[09:51] <tritium> that's your problem
[09:51] <sladen> tritium: pong
[09:51] <tritium> get the linux-restricted-modules that exactly matches the version of your kernel
[09:51] <J-jayz-Z> defile: is there a actual one?
[09:51] <tritium> sladen, hey there.  I hope you received my ubuntu grub splash image via email
[09:52] <J-jayz-Z> i dont know this page...
[09:52] <sri|work> gro, basically, nothing crashes, things work as advertised etc etc.  mono isn't broken :)
[09:52] <sladen> tritium: ah yes
[09:52] <duncanm> hello
[09:52] <duncanm> i updated my machine running hoary
[09:52] <defile> J-jayz-Z, it has some handy sources listed there
[09:52] <duncanm> i have the 2.6.10-2 kernel running
[09:52] <tritium> sladen, okay, glad to know.
[09:52] <duncanm> but if i try to use 2.6.10-2.smp, it doesn't work
[09:53] <J-jayz-Z> defile: i mean the server for new/actual software...
[09:53] <Rotundo> estebandido: I can not tell you what to delete - sorry
[09:53] <estebandido> well, i went ahead a tried .gconf
[09:53] <defile> J-jayz-Z, okay, now I'm on the same boat as tritium
[09:53] <estebandido> now restarting
[09:53] <bodhi> tritium: i am downloading linux-restricted .... i will tell you later, ty
[09:53] <estebandido> what the hell, i only installed it last night
[09:53] <tritium> defile, meaning?
[09:54] <tritium> bodhi, okay.  good luck ;)
[09:54] <defile> apt-get install J-jayz-Z2_en
[09:54] <J-jayz-Z> i mean the ftp server in the /etc/apt/sources.list for the software
[09:54] <Rotundo> estebandido: my install last night (first time for ubuntu) went quite well.
[09:54] <tritium> sladen, any thoughts on my idea?
[09:55] <estebandido> my install was fine, but i have ancient hardware
[09:55] <J-jayz-Z> defile: im 17 and not master in english ;p
[09:55] <estebandido> my laptop cuts out if you close the top past 90 degrees
[09:55] <tritium> defile, what boat are we in together?
[09:55] <gro> sri|work: main should be stable enough, universe has some problems (streamtuner, spambayes), some mono packages seems to work/install (f-spot) others don't (muine, monodevelop);)
[09:56] <defile> J-jayz-Z, it's cool, but if you go to the ubuntuguide.org site, it has a listing of some sources that you can put in your sources.list
[09:56] <Rotundo> estebandido: are you running warty or hoary
[09:56] <defile> tritium, not being able to make much sense out of J-jayz-Z
[09:56] <J-jayz-Z> maybe someone has a ready one for me?everytime i do this, my ubuntu sucks because of not installt packages...
[09:57] <estebandido> warty (on ppc)
[09:57] <Orbo> Rotundo: I checked my /usr/bin file and found gmplayer
[09:57] <Orbo> but its highlighted in a light blue color
[09:57] <estebandido> i think i'll just reinstall
[09:57] <tritium> defile, oh...hadn't noticed
[09:57] <defile> J-jayz-Z, are you using sudo?
[09:57] <estebandido> or can i force apt-get nautilus
[09:57] <estebandido> ?
[09:57] <J-jayz-Z> defile: i did sudo passwd root
[09:59] <defile> J-jayz-Z, are you running 'apt-get update' after you edit your sources?
[09:59] <Rotundo> estebandido: apt-get --reinstall install nautilus
[09:59] <J-jayz-Z> defile: yes, everytime
[09:59] <estebandido> ok, i'll do that
[09:59] <estebandido> do i need to do bonobo as well?
[10:00] <Orbo> when I run gmplayer in the terminal several messages pop up
[10:00] <Orbo> Reading config file /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[10:00] <Orbo> Warning unknown option skin at line 50
[10:00] <Orbo> Reading config file /home/cam/.mplayer/config
[10:00] <Orbo> MPlayer was compiled WITHOUT GUI support.
[10:00] <Orbo> Reading /home/cam/.mplayer/codecs.conf: Can't open '/home/cam/.mplayer/codecs.conf': No such file or directory
[10:00] <Orbo> Reading /etc/mplayer/codecs.conf: 73 audio & 180 video codecs
[10:00] <Orbo> Usage:   mplayer [options]  [url|path/] filename
[10:00] <defile> J-jayz-Z, anything in particular you're trying to install?
[10:00] <Orbo> I see that I didnt compile with gui support
[10:00] <Rotundo> orbo: do you see the line that says it was compiled without gui support
[10:00] <Rotundo> orbo: thats your problem
[10:00] <Orbo> can i do this through synaptic?
[10:00] <Orbo> I know that now rotundo
[10:01] <Orbo> or am I going to have to do a source install
[10:01] <Rotundo> orbo: do what? how did you install mplayer? with the marillat archive?
[10:01] <defile> J-jayz-Z, and don't feel bad, your English is still much better than my German
[10:01] <Orbo> the marillat archive?
[10:01] <Orbo> is that another url i have to add to source.list
[10:02] <J-jayz-Z> Orbo: search at www.apt-get.org for mplyer-gui, put this server in your /etc/apt/sources.list , run apt-get update and install it with apt-get install mplayer-gui
[10:02] <Rotundo> orbo: yes
[10:02] <Rotundo> orbo: did you compile yourself?
[10:02] <SirFred> Hi.
[10:02] <Orbo> no, rotundo, did a synaptic install
[10:02] <SirFred> Is there any way to change the gui font on Openoffice (hoary)
[10:03] <tritium> mjg59, any ideas come to mind on resume requiring power button to be pressed twice?
[10:03] <SirFred> It looks really fuzzy on my laptop, and also the latin1 characters are not showed (only squares instead of)
[10:03] <gro> haggai, ogra : what is the current procedure to report universe bugs?
[10:03] <Orbo> J-jayz-Z, two servers came up with the packages, one for sarge, the other for woody
[10:03] <Orbo> does it matter which distro I use for ubuntu
[10:03] <J-jayz-Z> Orbo: use the woody one
[10:03] <Orbo> theyre both .deb
[10:04] <Orbo> k
[10:04] <J-jayz-Z> Orbo: here you are on stable side ;p
[10:04] <ogra> gro: mail one of us or report them to the mailing list....(we are working on a better solution)
[10:04] <Orbo> J-jayz-Z, why woody?
[10:04] <Orbo> just curious
[10:04] <J-jayz-Z> Orbo: woody is "stable" in linux
[10:05] <Rotundo> orbo: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats/view?searchterm=mplayer
[10:05] <haggai> SirFred: what desktop are you using
[10:05] <Nonphasis> how can I file bugs in Hoary?
[10:06] <Orbo> Rotundo, thanks
[10:06] <Nonphasis> bugzilla only lists packages for warty
[10:06] <J-jayz-Z> cu guys and thx
[10:06] <haggai> gro: we're currently in the process of deciding whether we can use Malone, or we must use bugzilla
[10:06] <NanoTek> Bye !
[10:07] <haggai> oh sorry I missed ogra's reply
[10:07] <haggai> r3v3rb: the OOo autopilots need a java-enabled OOo to work, I'm afraid
[10:07] <ogra> haggai: i was told malone could be ready in about a week...
[10:07] <SirFred> haggai: Gnome.
[10:08] <r3v3rb> and ubuntu isn't java enabled ?
[10:08] <r3v3rb> haggai ?
[10:08] <haggai> r3v3rb: not sun's java, license is too restrictive
[10:08] <gro> ok, thx ogra and haggai: you'll hear from me ;)
[10:08] <r3v3rb> bugga
[10:08] <r3v3rb> is there no way round it haggai?
[10:08] <haggai> SirFred: it should pick up Gnome's defaults, providing you have the openoffice.org-[gtk-] -gnome installed
[10:09] <haggai> r3v3rb: install openoffice.org-java.  Unfortunately it seems to have gone missing and needs rebuilding
[10:09] <_martin> SirFred, have you looked at ubuntuguide.org and adding more fonts to your system?
[10:09] <haggai> r3v3rb: it was living on one of the developers' websites
[10:09] <r3v3rb> also is it a bug in hoary that the wireless conf doesn't work properly ?
[10:09] <SirFred> haggai: Thanks.
[10:09] <SirFred> haggai: I didn't have that package installed.
[10:10] <r3v3rb> when i set up the wireless is always forgets the settings on reboot
[10:10] <r3v3rb> plus the old setting dialog was much better in warty guys
[10:10] <SirFred> haggai: wow, what a difference.
[10:11] <toby1knby> hello all, anyone got an idea on why I can`t  get mencoder to install?
[10:11] <haggai> SirFred: heh :)
[10:12] <SirFred> haggai: But the "save as" dialog seems to crash it
[10:13] <SirFred> Humm, not at twice
[10:13] <SirFred> It's using the modern gtk file chooser widget.
[10:14] <SirFred> Great
[10:17] <Orbo> J-jayz-Z: when I add that server, do I have to put anything after it, i.e. universe multiverse?
[10:19] <swim> ehrm
[10:19] <swim> anyone know how to use gtk-gnutella? I installed it from repos, and now I cant seem to find an executable for it
[10:20] <snowblink> swim: ALT+F2
[10:20] <snowblink> swim: then type gtk-gnutella
[10:20] <jmhodges> ok, this is  a silly question.. but ican't seem to open up a deb with gunzip.. i renamed it to a .tar.gz, and file claims its compressed with gzip, but no luck
[10:20] <jmhodges> archive manager handles it fine however..
[10:20] <swim> snowblink, thats what I mean I cant find the gtk-gnutella executable... I know how to use the cli
[10:20] <snowblink> jmhodges: man dpkg
[10:21] <jmhodges> ah,
[10:21] <jmhodges> silly me
[10:21] <swim> ...
[10:22] <azeem> heya
[10:22] <azeem> anybody using multisync on hoary in here?
[10:23] <ogra> swim: dpkg --listfiles gtk-gnutella|grep bin
[10:24] <jmhodges> hmm.. its not leaping out at me in the man file.. is there a qucik and easy way of just deleting a single file from a deb?
[10:24] <calamari_> hi
[10:24] <erik> i'd imagine so
[10:24] <swim> ogra, hrmm odd it returned /usr/bin ... but there isnt anything in /usr/bin named gtk-gnutella or gnutella
[10:24] <snowblink> swim: what version of gtk-gnutella are you installing?
[10:25] <calamari_> what command do I use to get a list of my current ip addresses (console)
[10:25] <swim> snowblink, lemme check
[10:25] <daeghnao> I have a ThinkPad R40E and a warty CD, and the installer seems to stop when it's starting syslogd/klogd
[10:25] <snowblink> calamari_: ifconfig -a
[10:25] <ogra> swim: it should have returned the full name of a binary....
[10:25] <swim> snowblink, Ive installed 0.95-2
[10:26] <swim> ogra, hrmm very odd, that it did not
[10:26] <calamari_> snowblink: thanks
[10:26] <daeghnao> Wondering if there's a boot option that will try to do something different, or if we should try something other than warty?
[10:26] <snowblink> swim: I got my deb straight off their site
[10:27] <snowblink> swim: 0.95 stable
[10:27] <swim> snowblink, mine was in one of the repos...
[10:27] <aalion> bah tried everything still that gay error 18
[10:28] <swim> snowblink, off whose site, ubuntu?
[10:28] <snowblink> swim: the sf site
[10:28] <swim> ah
[10:29] <jmhodges> gah, getting lost in debhelper etc
[10:30] <daeghnao> Any ideas guys? I thought we were getting somewhere when we solved the framebuffer issue, but all the googling since has come up with nothing for this particular problem...
[10:30] <Kinema> are there any docs on how to install modify a ubuntu iso to include a custom kernel and install on a nonsupported filesystem?
[10:30] <Osis> Has anyone Setup a DWL-G630 Cardbus on Unbuntu???
[10:31] <nir> what could be the cause of slow very network access, some site are not reachable
[10:31] <azeem> Kinema: I think so, check the the wiki
[10:31] <azeem> anybody using multisync on hoary in here who wants to try out new .debs?
[10:31] <nir> I see "resolving host www.google.com"
[10:31] <nir> ?
[10:31] <nir> and it ends with timout
[10:32] <azeem> nir: check /etc/resolv.conf
[10:32] <moquist_> anybody here conversant with Radeon video card conf issues?
[10:32] <ks> oh
[10:32] <ks> nice!
[10:32] <ks> finally found a place about ubuntu :)
[10:32] <ks> hello everyone
[10:32] <moquist_> hi ks
[10:32] <tritium> hi ks
[10:32] <melazyboy2> moquist: don't ask to ask
[10:32] <ogra> moquist_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDirverHowto
[10:33] <moquist> ogra: been there, tried that.
[10:33] <ks> so.. got a tricky question for you guys :)
[10:33] <melazyboy2> ks: congrats
[10:33] <sri|work> the upstream is frozen..so..
[10:33] <ks> I own a Shuttle SN45G, running winXP on a 200Gb HD. I want to install ubuntu on a separate HD, which will be plugged in using USB...
[10:34] <ks> everything goes well... except I can't boot
[10:34] <moquist> Maybe my problem is a generic apt question - when I attempt to install "fglrx-driver", I get "The following packages have unmet deps... fglrx-driver deps on xorg-driver-fglrx but it is not going to be installed, blah blah blah.  if I apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx it has no problem.  If I then go back to apt-get install fglrx-driver, I get the same error.
[10:34] <ks> got a kernel panick while booting :(
[10:34] <azeem> moquist: warty?
[10:34] <daeghnao> ks: I didn't even get a kernel panic, I just get the computer stopping during booting from the install CD
[10:34] <moquist> azeem: Hoary.
[10:34] <swim> snowblink, know if there is an amd64 version of the binaries for gtk-gnutella about? read in forums that the problem is not just mine, the hoary repos version of gtk-gnutella is missing the bin file... so someone posted a wrokaround just get the debian package and move that executable to /usr/bin and everything works, but Im using ubuntu hoary amd64 ...
[10:34] <azeem> moquist: might be broken then
[10:35] <moquist> azeem: the error mentions xfree86-driver-fglrx too, but since I've got xorg I ignored that part.  (the error says "xorg.* OR xfree86.*"
[10:35] <moquist> )
[10:35] <snowblink> swim: dunno sorry. I'm using 32bit
[10:35] <ks> daeghnao are you installing your ubuntu on an USB HD too ?
[10:35] <azeem> moquist: no idea, I don't run hoary
[10:35] <farruinn> moquist: check the versions of the packages required and what is available
[10:35] <daeghnao> ks: No, on am IBM ThinkPad. Well, trying to.
[10:35] <ks> oh ok
[10:35] <farruinn> moquist: make sure you've run an apt-get update
[10:35] <moquist> farruinn: they match.  xorg-driver-fglrx = 6.8.0-8.8.25
[10:36] <duncanm> do i need to do anything to configure a kernel?
[10:36] <melazyboy2> moquist: If you have xorg, then why are you trying to install the NONXORG DRIVER?!?!!?! =/
[10:36] <daeghnao> It's really very stopped. No spinning noises or flashing lights.
[10:36] <ks> well the installation went damn fine with me, but something's weird with USB support
[10:36] <duncanm> i have both 2.6.10-2 and 2.6.10-2-smp, the smp one doesn't work
[10:36] <moquist> farruinn: k, haven't done *upgrade* today, though I've done update.
[10:36] <ks> I've heard it's not ubuntu itself that is the problem, but it's just Linux in general
[10:36] <moquist> melazyboy2: er, I'm not.
[10:36] <farruinn> moquist: I think melazyboy2 is saying fglrx-driver is for xfree86?
[10:37] <melazyboy2> moquist: fglrx-driver, is Xfree86. you just said your using xorg, and complaining about that not installing, that doesn't install for xorg -- its not supposed to its for a different xwindow system
[10:37] <moquist> farruinn, melazyboy2: oh - well that's anything but obvious then.  :)
[10:37] <moquist> melazyboy2: k, gotcha.
[10:37] <kent> is there some good program that can test the bandwidth of my adsl-line?
[10:37] <moquist> melazyboy2: when I get this working, I'll have to update the Wiki.  :)
[10:38] <melazyboy2> you won't get it working its impossible...
[10:38] <moquist> kent: there are quite a few website-based BW tests out there.
[10:38] <melazyboy2> ati cards that work are an urban legend
[10:38] <moquist> melazyboy2: oh?  the xorg-driver-fglrx package will not do the required tricks?
[10:38] <ks> guys, check out these photos I've taken: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9796
[10:39] <ks> seems nasty
[10:39] <moquist> melazyboy2: heh - not very positive there on ATI, are you?  :)
[10:39] <ks> I'm no linux pro, but ubuntu is so nice I def want it on my computer ;)
[10:39] <moquist> melazyboy2: I've got a friend with a Radeon in the same class as mine, and his works with Xorg in Gentoo, and Radeon provides Xorg drivers on their site.
[10:39] <daeghnao> I think we may have to abandon this ubuntu idea and go try something else, it's really not liking it.
[10:39] <jdub> ks: so, this means that the initrd doesn't include everything it needs to boot properly
[10:40] <jdub> ks: and i can assure you that our default initrd doesn't have usb drivers and usb-storage :)
[10:40] <ks> jdub ah that's a start
[10:40] <melazyboy2> moquist: It might for you, there are problems with the ATI sources, 2 months late on a driver delivery and they deliver a bugged product, the ubuntu team is supposed to have a patch that fixes the failed calls to a depreciated function however when i applied the patch they did not work for me; not to say they won't work for you -- in the event your using a ubuntu bin kernel, which im not but that should not effect anything because
[10:40] <calamari_> do I want to use sendmail to send an e-mail from the console, or is there something better?
[10:40] <timo_> hi
[10:40] <ks> so I just need to write a new initrd right ? Thing is... how can I do that ?
[10:40] <timo_> anyone here?
[10:40] <jdub> ks: so what you'd need to do is change the mkinitrd configuration and build a new initrd;
[10:40] <moquist> melazyboy2: you got truncated at "effect anything because"
[10:40] <swim> hay peeps how do I extract a package?
[10:40] <snowblink> calamari_: mutt, mailx
[10:40] <melazyboy2> I will never buy another radeon again.
[10:40] <jdub> ks: unfortunately, the easiest way to do that is to boot the system ;)
[10:41] <timo_> Can i ask some1 a question?
[10:41] <ks> heheheh
[10:41] <ks> well
[10:41] <mandrake_> Salux
[10:41] <jdub> ks: so, do you have a live cd?
[10:41] <melazyboy2> moquist: thats your client then
[10:41] <ks> I have 30s of it
[10:41] <jdub> ks: oh, wait, you have an install cd
[10:41] <jdub> ks: boot your install cd
[10:41] <mandrake_> I have a problem in Ubuntu
[10:41] <jdub> ks: can you talk to me at the same time?
[10:41] <timo_> Who can help me?
[10:41] <ks> I'm working in a computer shop, I'm spreading them :)
[10:41] <farruinn> swim: .deb? sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[10:41] <jdub> ks: excellent :-)
[10:41] <melazyboy2> moquist: ///* my kernel also has all the ubuntu patches
[10:41] <ks> jdub nope can't do :(
[10:41] <jdub> ks: so boot with your install cd
[10:41] <jdub> ks: oh
[10:41] <moquist> k, I've got another question, then: what video cards do you recommend for dual-LCD display?  no gaming requirements.
[10:41] <timo_> jdub
[10:41] <mandrake_> i havent got sound
[10:41] <swim> farruinn, that installs...
[10:41] <azeem> farruinn: that's for install, not extract
[10:41] <daeghnao> Ah well, thanks for listening guys. A pity our problem isn't solvable just now.
[10:42] <jdub> ks: any way you can do stuff and still talk to me?
[10:42] <mandrake_> someone can help me ?
[10:42] <swim> dpkg --extract
[10:42] <azeem> (which might be what swim had in mind, granted)
[10:42] <moquist> mandrake_: maybe.  :)
[10:42] <jdub> ks: this'll be hard to do if i have to give you all the instructions first
[10:42] <ks> jdub nope I only have 1PC here
[10:42] <daeghnao> Night-night
[10:42] <farruinn> swim, azeem, didn't know what he meant, just made a guess
[10:42] <melazyboy2> moquist: Anything made by NVidea
[10:42] <ks> unless you're in France and I can call you :D
[10:42] <azeem> swim: dpkg-deb -x $DEB.deb .
[10:42] <jdub> ks: okay, in that case, get the livecd
[10:42] <azeem> swim: extracts to ., i.e. the current dir
[10:42] <moquist> er, bye mandrake_.
[10:42] <jdub> ks: then you can run xchat and play with the usb disk at the same time :-)\
[10:42] <ks> jdub just give me some hints I'll note them
[10:42] <calamari_> snowblink: sorry, I misrepresented my question, since you said mutt.  I'm looking for something automated (basically when I get online it will send me an e-mail so I know what my ip is and I can connect remotely) :)  the ifconfig part is good.  Just need to send the mail now :)
[10:42] <ks> LOL
[10:42] <ks> :)
[10:42] <timo_> Does anyone know why my internet browser is so slow?
[10:43] <swim> kool thx azeem
[10:43] <timo_> Does anyone know why my internet browser is so slow?
[10:43] <jdub> ks: well, you need to boot another way (install, live), then mount and chroot into your usb installation
[10:43] <calamari_> snowblink: do I want sendmail for that?
[10:43] <duncanm> hey jdub!
[10:43] <jdub> ks: then you need to modify the mkinitrd config to add the usb drivers and ensure they're loaded
[10:43] <melazyboy2> uh calamari_ how about a line in ifup that runs ifconfig and captures output to a file in /var/log/messages ?
[10:43] <ks> hum
[10:43] <jdub> yo duncanm
[10:43] <ks> sounds pretty easy
[10:43] <duncanm> jdub: so, i have <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>.smp
[10:43] <jdub> ks: then build the new initrd, and reboot
[10:43] <ks> argh*
[10:43] <ks> build ? :)
[10:43] <duncanm> jdub: is there some magic to make the smp kernel work?
[10:44] <calamari_> melazyboy2: how is that going to get into my inbox? :)
[10:44] <jdub> ks: using mkinitrd, there's no compiling involved
[10:44] <duncanm> jdub: i'm running ubuntu at home so i can check out the new GNOME stuff ;-)
[10:44] <calamari_> I'm not in front of my computer
[10:44] <snowblink> calamari_: ah. In a script, then you go right ahead
[10:44] <ks> jdub oooh allright
[10:44] <melazyboy2> calamari_: Are you wanting it in a pop3 inbox or your local linux inbox?
[10:44] <jdub> duncanm: if you installed smp after, it should be the primary selected kernel
[10:44] <ks> jdub I'll try to find some documentation on this
[10:44] <ks> thanks for your time
[10:44] <calamari_> melazy: pop3
[10:44] <duncanm> jdub: it is
[10:44] <azeem> anybody using multisync on hoary in here who wants to try out new .debs?
[10:44] <jdub> duncanm: so what's not working? :)
[10:44] <duncanm> jdub: but somehow, it kernel panics when it couldn't find my root partition
[10:45] <duncanm> jdub: i have an XFS partition on root
[10:45] <jdub> duncanm: sounds like the initrd wasn't built correctly
[10:45] <melazyboy2> calamari_: Thats slightly more difficult; and a pretty crummy solution why not just get no-ip or dyndns ? free solutions
[10:45] <snowblink> snowblink: perhaps dynamic dns might be better
[10:45] <jdub> duncanm: the other kernel works fine?
[10:45] <duncanm> jdub: yeah
[10:45] <snowblink> calamari_: heh
[10:45] <duncanm> 2.6.8 smp works too
[10:45] <jdub> duncanm: oh, interesting
[10:46] <melazyboy2> calamari_: google for no-ip.com, and dyndns.org, both have service packages avail for linux
[10:46] <melazyboy2> calamari_: free too might i add
[10:46] <jdub> duncanm: mkinitrd -o <initrd-file-in-/boot> 2.6.10-2-686-smp
[10:46] <jdub> duncanm: if you're using the 686 kernel
[10:47] <jdub> duncanm: that'll rebuild the initrd, see if that works
[10:47] <timo_> WHO CAN HELP ME?
[10:47] <duncanm> aha
[10:47] <melazyboy2> timo_: see topic
[10:47] <duncanm> jdrowell: i see
[10:47] <duncanm> eek
[10:47] <duncanm> jdub: i see
[10:48] <duncanm> jdub: i only have initrd.img-2.6.10-2-386, but not the one for the SMP
[10:48] <calamari_> melazy: will do.. thanks :)
[10:48] <timo_> lazyboy
[10:48] <timo_> what topic?
[10:48] <jdub> duncanm: hmm
[10:48] <timo_> im new to linux
[10:48] <jdub> duncanm: have a look in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:48] <calamari_> melazy: I knew about dyndns.. but long ago I remembered they took a while to update and weren't too happy about dial-up users.. maybe it's changed
[10:48] <azeem> timo_: just ask
[10:48] <snowblink> timo_: what problem are you having?
[10:48] <jdub> duncanm: in the 2.6.10-2-686-smp section, does it mention an initrd?
[10:48] <timo_> well
[10:49] <azeem> timo_: don't ask whether you can ask
[10:49] <duncanm> jdub: nope
[10:49] <melazyboy2> the one that says this is the ubuntu support channel, and said last month 'don't ask to ask'
[10:49] <jdub> duncanm: seriously?
[10:49] <chrismurf> So - I'm trying to get M4A / AAC / MP4 (not encrypted - standard ones) support working with gstreamer / rhythmbox.  I have all the gst plugins installed, but it still doesn't work.
[10:49] <duncanm> yeah
[10:49] <duncanm> jdub: i ran apt-get upgrade on a day when i was seriously low on disk
[10:49] <timo_> my internet is really messed up, im new to linux, and if i try to go to www.google.com it takes up to 15 minutes to load
[10:49] <jdub> duncanm: paste that stanza to /query
[10:49] <timo_> while download speed is 300 kb/s
[10:49] <duncanm> jdub: so i think something bad might have happened then
[10:49] <melazyboy2> calamari_: You can use no-ip i use them personally works wonders
[10:49] <timo_> also, i cannot connect to MSN of whatever
[10:49] <jdub> duncanm: something 'different' certainly happened ;)
[10:49] <Rotundo> timo_: sounds like DNS issues
[10:50] <calamari_> melazy: thanks a lot
[10:50] <timo_> how do i fix that?
[10:50] <melazyboy2> timo_: is it the resolution that is taking them time i would first susspect
[10:50] <timo_> -_- resolution of my screen?
[10:50] <snowblink> timo_: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[10:50] <melazyboy2> timo_: Try this open up a console/terminal and ping an ip you have never pinged before, like excite.com or the like, see how long it takes to get the first responce
[10:50] <Rotundo> timo_: are you using DHCP?
[10:50] <timo_> ok
[10:51] <melazyboy2> timo_: You might have to remove your SEARCH options from your resolv.conf if you have them in tehre
[10:51] <timo_> wow
[10:51] <timo_> im totally new to this
[10:51] <timo_> so I dont know what anything is:P
[10:51] <timo_> but ill first ping something
[10:51] <azeem> ok, so nobody running multisync then
[10:51] <chrismurf> anybody know how to do AAC / MP4's under ubuntu?  I can't figure out what gstreamer plugin / whatever I am missing.
[10:52] <timo_> pinging excite.com
[10:52] <timo_> takes 114 ms
[10:52] <timo_> and waiiting
[10:52] <timo_> second
[10:52] <timo_> 115
[10:52] <melazyboy2> how long did it take to resolv excite.com
[10:52] <melazyboy2> 114ms/115ms isn't slow
[10:52] <timo_> just go in browser?
[10:52] <timo_> w8
[10:52] <timo_> ill enter excite.com in browser
[10:53] <snowblink> timo_: what browser are you using?
[10:53] <timo_> starting now
[10:53] <timo_> uuhhm
[10:53] <leduc> what is the real different between hoary array 3 or array 2 and the warty installer ?
[10:53] <timo_> firefox
[10:53] <kent> chrismurf, i dont know how gstreamer does it, but if you install totem-xine and the w32codecs, you will get it working, i think atleast it did for me.
[10:53] <ogra> timo_: i dont even get _any_ reply from excite.com
[10:53] <ogra> 32 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 31001ms
[10:53] <timo_> well
[10:53] <ogra> might be the net
[10:53] <timo_> lol
[10:53] <chrismurf> kent, thanks - I was trying to do it with the gstreamer support, but I may not be able to
[10:53] <timo_> well
[10:53] <timo_> remember when i said STARTING NOW
[10:53] <melazyboy2> timo_: Just try this in that same console that you used to ping excite.com type 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' and look for a SEARCH option
[10:54] <timo_> its still loading
[10:54] <leduc> because i have some problems with my cdrom detection in the installtion
[10:54] <timo_> not showing anything
[10:54] <leduc> nobody to help me ?
[10:55] <timo_> melazyboy
[10:55] <timo_> its says:
[10:55] <timo_> /lib/iptables
[10:55] <melazyboy2> timo_: you mean when you type "cat /etc/resolv.conf" you get nothing?
[10:55] <timo_> doh
[10:55] <timo_> yes
[10:55] <timo_> i do
[10:55] <timo_> it gives <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:55] <timo_> twice
[10:55] <melazyboy2> hrm are you using a linksys?
[10:55] <timo_> linksys?
[10:55] <Rotundo> router
[10:55] <timo_> yes
[10:56] <timo_> i have a router
[10:56] <kent> openoffice2 is not the most stable program ever, i just loaded the openoffice calc and it crashed in a few minutes :)
[10:56] <melazyboy2> timo_: go to <IP_ADDRESS>, use password admin go to settings copy down those ip addresses, then type this "sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf" and where you see <IP_ADDRESS> replace them with those numbers
[10:57] <timo_> ohw by the way... my excite had "already found out that the titlebar contains 'My excite'
[10:57] <timo_> ok 1 moment
[10:58] <ogra> kent: its not even there for a week.....give it time to stabilize (and file bugs indeed)
[10:58] <timo_> lazy
[10:58] <HaRDaWaY> hello
[10:58] <timo_> do i need to put MY IP there?
[10:58] <melazyboy2> no those ips you found under DNS in your routers config
[10:59] <haggai> kent: yes, please log problems you find, together with details of how to make it crash
[10:59] <snowblink> melazyboy2: is this a common linksys problem?
[10:59] <timo_> if i go to Dynamic DNS Setup there is nothing there
[10:59] <melazyboy2> snowblink: I had it =/
[11:00] <kent> haggai, will do it later then. Right now, i dont know excacly what went wrong. It just crashed, and that wont help much to know :)
[11:00] <calamari_> I'm assuming it's a security feature that I can't run sudo remotely, is that right?
[11:00] <timo_> lazy, nothing there, but my IP adress is <IP_ADDRESS> i think
[11:00] <usual> has there been issues with mono in hoary lately?
[11:00] <melazyboy2> snowblink: For some reason linux recieves the linksys bersf series as a dns server, rather than the dns ip addresses associated with the dhcp lease, some people claim the linksys can work as a dns server, however i find it EXTREMLY buggy when it does so i generally bypass it
[11:00] <haggai> kent: starting help makes it crash I know, but I haven't found other problems yet
[11:01] <snowblink> melazyboy2: I think I had similar issues with netgear router a while ago. Firmware upgrade seemed to sort it out.
[11:01] <melazyboy2> timo_: in your linksys menu, you see the option that says 'status'
[11:01] <melazyboy2> hit it
[11:02] <melazyboy2> you should see under WAN: 3 DNS addresses
[11:02] <timo_> melazy, resolve.conf contains: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:02] <timo_> yes
[11:02] <timo_> i c
[11:02] <timo_> ok
[11:02] <timo_> w8 ill look
[11:02] <melazyboy2> snowblink: my router hasn't had a firmware upgrade in 3years, linksys doesn't seem to maintain it
[11:03] <timo_> melazy
[11:03] <melazyboy2> whats up
[11:03] <timo_> there are 2 IP adresses there
[11:04] <timo_> LAN STATUS: IP ADRESS: <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:04] <timo_> WAN STATUS IP ADRESS: <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:04] <Bigglez> hi, anyone know how I can get a log of my bandwidth? I am new to ubu and ADSL
[11:04] <timo_> nothing on DNS
[11:04] <melazyboy2> timo_: click around then you should see it somewhere in there
[11:05] <snowblink> timo_: possible your upstream provider is having problems
[11:05] <timo_> nah, on windows PC internet is very fast
[11:05] <timo_> but i dont see DNS
[11:06] <timo_> maybe i dont have DNS?
[11:06] <Bigglez> No fancy Python stuff to log bandwidth maybe?
[11:06] <Rotundo> timo_: you need dns :)
[11:06] <timo_> ohw
[11:06] <timo_> :P
[11:06] <melazyboy2> timo_: if you didn't have dns you would have never been able to resolv google to an ip
[11:06] <timo_> lol
[11:06] <timo_> ok
[11:06] <snowblink> timo_: you have a working windows?
[11:06] <timo_> yes
[11:06] <timo_> other computer
[11:06] <snowblink> timo_: get DNS settings from there
[11:06] <timo_> how?
[11:06] <timo_> I can get into my router from here
[11:07] <Rotundo> timo_: you machine needs an ip to find another machine, dns is the way your machine finds what ip www.google.com (or anybody else) is
[11:07] <timo_> I have a draytec Vigor 2200E
[11:07] <timo_> ok
[11:07] <timo_> How do i make screenshots? ill send a screenie 2 some1
[11:07] <Rotundo> timo_: which windows is it
[11:07] <timo_> XP
[11:08] <Rotundo> timo_: I dont know how to get your DNS servers in XP... can you run "ipconfig" in a cmd prompt ?
[11:08] <timo_> sure one moment
[11:08] <timo_> be right back
[11:09] <melazyboy2> ipconfig/all
[11:09] <melazyboy2> does anyone have MS Windows Media Audio 2 (ffmpeg) working?
[11:10] <melazyboy2> Im having servere problems getting it up -- and i can't find one person w/ google that has it working
[11:10] <HauntedUnix> Ello all
[11:10] <timo_> back
[11:10] <LinuxJones> melazyboy2, that last line is hilarious
[11:10] <timo_> on that pc the IP is <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:10] <timo_> so i think here it is <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:11] <melazyboy2> LinuxJones: head in the gutter?
[11:11] <LinuxJones> :D
[11:11] <melazyboy2> LinuxJones: fix my damn ms wma 2 codec
[11:11] <Rotundo> timo_: if you type ipconfig/all on the windows box the output should list your DNS servers.
[11:11] <timo_> lol ok be right back again
[11:11] <Rotundo> timo_: those ips should go into your resolv.conf
[11:13] <timo_> back
[11:13] <timo_> i made screenshot
[11:13] <usual> does anyone happen to have the libdbus-cil package for hoary?
[11:13] <usual> maybe cached
[11:13] <usual> does anyone happen to have the libdbus-cil package for hoary?
[11:13] <usual> maybe cached
[11:14] <Rotundo> timo_: well what does it say ? did you find the DNS ?
[11:14] <timo_> well it gave 2 ip adresses at DNS
[11:14] <timo_> <IP_ADDRESS> (2 times
[11:14] <Rotundo> timo_: ok good
[11:14] <Rotundo> timo_: you need to "sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf"
[11:14] <timo_> did that
[11:14] <HauntedUnix> Got a friend who wants to try Ubuntu. The machine is a ThinkPad R40E, and we've been using a warty CD.  The first problem was that it wasn't switching at all to the framebuffer, but wequickly found out how to get it not to try.  Then it got as far as starting syslogd/klogd, at which point nothing further happens. The cursor sits there on the next line, tauntingly, and the drives stop whirring and the lights stop flashing.  It look
[11:15] <Rotundo> timo_: and put both the ip addresses in it, alone each on a line
[11:15] <duncanm> wow
[11:15] <timo_> nothing in front of it?
[11:15] <Rotundo> timo_: no
[11:15] <duncanm> with the 2.6.10 kernel, startup speed is now pretty snappy
[11:15] <timo_> save?
[11:15] <Rotundo> timo_: yes sor
[11:15] <Rotundo> oops
[11:15] <Rotundo> yes sir
[11:15] <Rotundo> hehe
[11:15] <timo_> did that
[11:15] <duncanm> what do i do when there are packages 'kept back'?
[11:16] <Rotundo> timo_: there you go
[11:16] <azeem> duncanm: apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:16] <timo_> w8 ill try
[11:16] <azeem> duncanm: or better, apt-get install them individually
[11:16] <duncanm> why are they kept back?
[11:16] <azeem> duncanm: it means that either they need other new packages installed along, or packages removed
[11:16] <azeem> duncanm: apt-get upgrade only upgrades it does not install/remove new packages
[11:17] <stvn> anyone else having problems with the newest evolution in hoary and not opening imap mail?
[11:17] <timo_> hmmmm
[11:17] <timo_> Rotundo
[11:17] <azeem> stvn: I heard about that, yes
[11:17] <timo_> If I Say ping excite.com
[11:17] <Rotundo> duncanm: for each kept-back one you can "apt-get install" and it will tell you why, either the new version conflicts with something you have installed (ansd thus will be removed) or it has new dependancies, and thus will be installed
[11:17] <timo_> unknown host
[11:18] <stvn> azeem: got any more info?
[11:18] <azeem> stvn: no
[11:18] <stvn> oh pity
[11:19] <snowblink> timo_: can you reach www.google.com on your windows box right now?
[11:20] <swim> snowblink, how did you compile gtk-gnutella, Im having problems, seems to compile fine but no bin file seems to appear anywhere
[11:21] <snowblink> swim: I didn't I got the deb package
[11:21] <resiak> I really hate myself for asking this question, but ... I'm attempting to fix0r ALSA on a buddy's Ubuntu box. The symptoms are remeniscent of my problems which I fixed (on Debian, FWIW) by blacklisting snd_intel8x0m, but his laptop is another breed of chip which apparently likes snd_atiixp. I'm suspicious that the problems could be, once again, modem-related. Any clues?
[11:21] <swim> ah
[11:22] <timo_> snowblink
[11:22] <timo_> ill try
[11:22] <timo_> STARTING
[11:24] <timo_> still seeking site
[11:24] <HaRDaWaY> mm i have problems when i try to enter in a windows directory, as My videos, because it appears as: My v?deos, i use nls=iso8859-15 in /etc/fstab, any idea?
[11:24] <timo_> no results
[11:24] <kent> haggai, (not sure it was you i spoke to recently though..) if i was to add a bug against oowriter2, what package should i specify in bugzilla? its not in the list of packages, and it should not get mixed with ordinary oowriter (i guess). Should i just write oowriter2?
[11:24] <timo_> snow dude
[11:25] <snowblink> timo_: this is on your windows box?
[11:25] <timo_> aah
[11:25] <timo_> no
[11:25] <timo_> on windows
[11:25] <timo_> its like instant
[11:25] <haggai> kent: um, that was going to be sorted out.  Can you file against openffice.org and put [openoffice2]  in the bug title
[11:26] <kent> haggai, ok. will do that.
[11:26] <Stiopa> hello
[11:26] <haggai> kent: thanks
[11:28] <swim> snowblink, what version of gtk-gnutella are you running?
[11:28] <snowblink> swim: 0.95 stable
[11:29] <swim> snowblink, and you got the package from ubuntu universe?
[11:29] <Stiopa> I switched from slack to ubuntu. I chown /home/user and almost everything works fine. The exception is KMail which doesn't want to connect to my @ and keeps saying: couldn't start pop3 proccess
[11:29] <melazyboy2> shit
[11:29] <melazyboy2> i can't find my phone
[11:29] <melazyboy2> wtf
[11:29] <snowblink> swim: from the sourceforge site
[11:29] <melazyboy2> need to get an rfid tag on that pos
[11:31] <Agamotto> Anyone willing to help try configure a USB 802.11 interface?
[11:32] <HrdwrBoB> Agamotto: you'll need ndiswrapper
[11:33] <melazyboy2> HrdwrBoB: not always.
[11:33] <chrismurf> Anybody know anything about gstreamer-faad?  There's no package for it that I can find.  Anybody know about setting it up?
[11:33] <HrdwrBoB> apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[11:33] <melazyboy2> HrdwrBoB: thats only if you have a wifi card not nativly supported by linux
[11:33] <Agamotto> There is a utils package?  Coolies
[11:33] <HrdwrBoB> melazyboy2: I haven't yet seen a usb wifi card that didn't need ndiswrapper
[11:34] <HrdwrBoB> Agamotto: you'll also need linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[11:34] <snowblink> Agamotto: what card do you have?
[11:34] <Agamotto> Oh, I know mine isn't.  I have ndiswrapper installed, but need help.  Hold on a sec whilst I fetch the utils
[11:34] <HrdwrBoB> ok
[11:34] <kent> haggai, is there some way to include a picture in a bugreport in ubuntus bugzilla? i can put it on my server and mention it on the url, but i cant say for sure that my computer will be online all the time :(
[11:34] <melazyboy2> god damit i hate loosing phones on viberate
[11:35] <HrdwrBoB> kent: you can attach it
[11:35] <melazyboy2> this is going to drive me nuts
[11:35] <Agamotto> Ok, ndiswrapper-utils already installed
[11:35] <HrdwrBoB> cool
[11:35] <Nafallo> hmm
[11:35] <HrdwrBoB> Agamotto: got the windows drivers?
[11:35] <Agamotto> The card is a Siemens Speedstream USB box/card
[11:35] <Nafallo> is ssmtp or nullmailer preferred for a virtual server? :-P
[11:36] <jdub> Nafallo: nullmailer, not that i have any idea why you're sticking your tongue out about the quesiton.
[11:36] <Agamotto> HrdwrBoB:  Yep, ndiswrapper -l reports the driver
[11:36] <Agamotto> I am just not sure where to go from here
[11:36] <HrdwrBoB> oooh interesting sorry my bad, the siemens speedstram is a prism chipset
[11:36] <Nafallo> jdub: both seems to do the same and I can't decide :-P.
[11:36] <Nafallo> jdub: thanks btw :-)
[11:37] <HrdwrBoB> Agamotto: prism is a supported chipset
[11:37] <Agamotto> hrm
[11:38] <Agamotto> If I open device manager, it shows up, but I can't get the comptuter to see it as wlan0, if I am following things correctly
[11:39] <Agamotto> I can usually puzzle out most things myself, but I am at a loss when it comes to wireless
[11:39] <snowblink> Agamotto: iwconfig
[11:40] <Agamotto> Reports no wireless extensions for the following:  lo wlan0 eth0 sit0
[11:42] <snowblink> melazyboy2: it was timo_'s DNS - made him get them from his ISP and put them in
[11:42] <Agamotto> I don't know if it helps, but ifconfig shows that both lo and eth0 are working on my system
[11:42] <swim> hay is there anyway to add an icon to a listing in gnome menu that doesnt have an icon?
[11:43] <snowblink> swim: right-click->properties
[11:43] <Agamotto> swim:  If memory servers, open nautilus and for location type:  ///system or whatever menu you want it to be in
[11:44] <swim> snowblink, i think your thinking about kde
[11:44] <swim> trying it Agamotto
[11:44] <swim> Agamotto, hrmm thats not it
[11:44] <timo_> snow
[11:44] <snowblink> swim: I'm on warty on GNOME
[11:45] <timo_> accidentally exited MIRC
[11:45] <rellik> is there some way to do 'hosts'-like associations for domain-name/alias instead of IP/alias?  my school uses DHCP and typing "ssh r01ptsmf8.desktop.umr.edu" every time I wanna ssh is a pain
[11:45] <swim> ah Im on hoary
[11:45] <azeem> swim: I think it depends on whether you run warty or hoary, they (GNOME) changed the menu in between
[11:45] <HrdwrBoB> rellik: yes you could use 'hosts' :)
[11:45] <HrdwrBoB> rellik: it's in /etc/hosts
[11:45] <HrdwrBoB> sudo vi /etc/hosts
[11:45] <rellik> HrdwrBoB, /etc/hosts only works for IP/alias
[11:46] <HrdwrBoB> rellik: if you set the 'search' domain in /etc/resolv.cofn
[11:46] <HrdwrBoB> you can ssh to 'name'
[11:46] <HrdwrBoB> where name is name.searchdomain.com
[11:46] <HrdwrBoB> .conf btw in case you didn't guess
[11:49] <rellik> HrdwrBoB, heh cool thanks..  he resolv.conf trick is nice :)
[11:49] <HillTop> I was just looking at http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~mako/ubuntu-traffic/u20041217_17.html#6 and wonder what BOF means?? Thanks
[11:49] <jdub> HillTop: birds of a feather
[11:49] <jdub> HillTop: basically a meeting of people with similar interests
[11:49] <HrdwrBoB> people interested in the same topics
[11:50] <mako> HillTop: like a workshop except often less structured
[11:50] <HrdwrBoB> jdub: Kim spent hours last night on ebay buying random wedding 'stuff' like bottle stoppers and candles and stuff
[11:50] <azeem> reminds me of the SPI workshop in Oslo :)
[11:51] <HrdwrBoB> and stressing that she didn't have everything organised
[11:51] <nightgoat> say, has anyone gotten Quake 3 to work with sound in Ubuntu Warty x86?
[11:51] <tritium> HrdwrBoB, getting married?
[11:51] <haggai> kent: attach it as a file attachment
[11:51] <HillTop> Thank you all, and in the security area, what is the issue with Chrooting?  I've been reading about remastering KNOPPIX and see that used there.
[11:51] <LinuxJones> nightgoat, I jsut got finished playing ;D
[11:52] <nightgoat> I get an error saying Could not mmap /dev/dsp
[11:52] <Agamotto> HillTop:  I don't even get the question :)
[11:52] <HrdwrBoB> tritium: yeah
[11:52] <nightgoat> as well as some other things.
[11:52] <tritium> HrdwrBoB, congratulations!
[11:52] <HrdwrBoB> tritium: thanks :)
[11:52] <tritium> :)
[11:52] <kent> haggai, i did. Its just that it confused me a bit, i attached it later on after filing the bug. On the page where i filed the bug, I found no way to attach the picture.
[11:52] <HrdwrBoB> nightgoat: hang on a second I got it working yesterday
[11:52] <Agamotto> How did the old expression used to go ????  Felicitations and salutations
[11:53] <HillTop> chroot, change root to another kernel version. Can you do that if there is no root user?
[11:53] <BockBilbo> how do i restart the x server???
[11:53] <Osis> Has anyone Setup a DWL-G630 Cardbus on Unbuntu??? Stupid Ndis Won't work!!!
[11:53] <nightgoat> ok guys, thanks for checking, any help would be appreciated :)
[11:53] <rellik> BockBilbo, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[11:53] <Agamotto> So can I, I used to be  wedding planner
[11:53] <nightgoat> BockBilbo: try hitting Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[11:53] <BockBilbo> ive tried that...
[11:53] <BockBilbo> but then when loging in gdm
[11:53] <BockBilbo> it gives me errors
[11:53] <nightgoat> hmm.
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> nightgoat: echo "quake3.x86 0 0 direct" | sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[11:54] <LinuxJones> BockBilbo, /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> echo "quake3.x86 0 0 disable" | sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> run that
[11:54] <BockBilbo> thankss
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> then run quake3
[11:54] <nightgoat> let me give it a shot...
[11:55] <tritium> HrdwrBoB, that "sudo tee" reminds me that /etc/X11/xorg.conf still needs to be fixed
[11:55] <nightgoat> BockBilbo: have you tried killall -HUP gdm? That might work.
[11:55] <haggai> kent: thanks, I see it now.  You need to tell me what you changed from a standard ubuntu system.  I don't see such a problem and I need to be able to reproduce it
[11:55] <HrdwrBoB> tritium: what's wrong with it?
[11:56] <tritium> HrdwrBoB, can't use sudo to "md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xorg//etc/X11/xorg.conf.md5sum"
[11:56] <HrdwrBoB> ah yes
[11:56] <tritium> and the double slash
[11:56] <HrdwrBoB> double slash is not really a big deal but may as well fix at the same time
[11:56] <tritium> true
[11:57] <tritium> hello haggai
[11:58] <nightgoat> HrdwrBoB, LinuxJones: I ran the command there, and now I get the error "GETOSPACE: Invalid argument Umm.. Can't do GETOSPACE?"
[11:58] <haggai> tritium: ah, hi
[11:58] <tritium> :)
[11:58] <nightgoat> My guess is some kind of OSS/ALSA conversion thing
[11:58] <Agamotto> nightgoat:  Tried Ghettospace?
[11:58] <HrdwrBoB> nightgoat: correct :)
[11:58] <nightgoat> Agamotto: What is Ghettospace?
[11:59] <kent> haggai, will do. (perhaps its my theme, i will get the name, and aswell try with the default theme)
[11:59] <Agamotto> nightgoat:  A bad joke
[11:59] <HrdwrBoB> nightgoat: what soundcard?
[11:59] <LinuxJones> nightgoat, Q3 is working just fine under ALSA, is your card supported ?