[08:07] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:14] <bkerensa> czajkowski: Hello
[12:49] <alourie_laptop> hello
[14:17] <JanC> does anybody know who's responsible for reviewing (commercial and/or open source) apps at Canonical now?
[14:17] <JanC> people are complaining about 1 month delays to get even their first review...
[14:17] <nigelb> JanC: jml is on that team.
[14:17] <JanC> > 1 month actually...
[14:18] <nigelb> There are a few more people, but I don't remember their names.
[14:18] <JanC> nigelb: ah, good to know
[14:18] <nigelb> JanC: I'm now sure who handles the reviews though.
[14:18] <czajkowski> JanC: http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/commercial-software-faqs/
[14:18] <czajkowski> has a lot of info but no name
[14:18] <nigelb> JanC: this is through apps.ubuntu.com right?
[14:19] <nigelb> Because if its REVU, its a different story.
[14:19] <JanC> I suppose so, it's about commercial apps
[14:19] <JanC> was somebody on #ubuntu-app-devel
[14:19] <JanC> and I heard other complaints earlier
[14:20] <nigelb> JanC: Oh. I just realized, dpm is a good person to talk to about that.
[14:20] <JanC> so I think this is something Canonical needs to improve  ;)
[14:21] <JanC> """<Magnesus> ok, I'll probably just remove the game from Software Center then, it's to risky to publish sth (especially sth people have to pay for) that can't be easily updated if I detect an error""" --> not good
[14:22] <JanC> unless Canonical doesn't care about software center anymore...
[14:37] <jussi> Janc: canonical  doesnt care about any of the products anymore, they just exist to annoy their userbase and see how long people stick around... its just a huge social experiment, havent you heard? :P : P :P
[20:09] <JanC> """<PWF> It's sad, so sad  It's a sad, sad situation  And it's getting more and more absurd... My app in pending review status 6 days, 20 hours ago""" --> more of this  ;)
[20:15] <AlanBell> that is really not good
[20:19] <JanC> AlanBell: it's a problem at Canonical that hurts the reputation of all of the Ubuntu community...
[20:21] <AlanBell> they can't have an overwhelming number of apps in the queue
[20:21] <bkerensa> Debian/Ubuntu jam is going well
[20:21] <JanC> AlanBell: they have a > 1 month queue of commercial apps right now
[20:22] <JanC> which either means nobody is working on it, or there are a large number of apps  ;)
[20:22]  * AlanBell suspects the former
[20:22] <popey> I am in the office in London tomorrow and I know who is responsibe for this, I'll have a word with them
[20:23] <popey> in fact..
[20:23]  * popey mails now
[20:23] <JanC> popey: thanks
[20:25] <popey> btw AlanBell http://popey.com/~alan/Workspace%201_011.png
[20:25] <popey> thats what my google chat thing looks like ☹
[20:26] <AlanBell> hmm, my office looks a lot tidier from my end
[20:26] <AlanBell> oh, and you seem to have some screen corruption
[20:58] <pleia2> AlanBell: have a moment to explain this planet spreadsheet?
[21:00] <czajkowski> popey: you should so grow a moustache!
[21:01] <AlanBell> pleia2: yes
[21:01] <pleia2> AlanBell: so how are we identifying which ones are valid ubuntu members?
[21:02] <pleia2> or we're not on this spreadsheet?
[21:02] <AlanBell> column A is a list of all valid members
[21:02] <AlanBell> column B and C are all the nicks in the planet config file
[21:02] <AlanBell> column B are the ones I can tie to member names
[21:02] <AlanBell> Column C I can't
[21:03] <pleia2> oh, so the rows don't match up along the spreadshet
[21:03] <AlanBell> not for column C
[21:03] <AlanBell> but they are in rough alphabetical position
[21:04] <pleia2> ah, that's the logic
[21:04] <pleia2> ok, so we need to go through column c and see if we can figure out who they are
[21:04] <pleia2> (I see dholbach started)
[21:04] <AlanBell> yeah
[21:04] <AlanBell> might be an idea to put it on google docs or something
[21:05] <pleia2> can't we just search bzr history?
[21:05] <AlanBell> ooh, interesting
[21:06] <pleia2> I actually know a fair number of these off the top of my head (not quite sure what that says about me, or if it's a good thing :))
[21:06] <czajkowski> heh
[21:13] <greg-g> czajkowski: can you invite me to the lococouncil channel, I can't get back in
[21:13] <akgraner> popey I was watching something on the Country music channel and the lead singer for Rascal Flatts was on - and I have changed my mind  - you remind me of him not Elvis :-P
[21:14] <popey> "thanks"
[21:15] <czajkowski> greg-g: done
[21:16] <pangolin> popey: I don't think that was a compliment
[21:16] <popey> pangolin: I don't think that was gratitude
[21:16] <pangolin> oh I see the quotes
[21:16] <czajkowski> heh
[21:16] <pangolin> :)
[21:16] <czajkowski> yeah we'll stick to UK elvis suits popey better
[21:47] <akgraner> nah - I like Rascal Flatts - I wasn't making fun of popey...
[21:51] <AlanBell> not sure I see popey here http://lh5.ggpht.com/_LOMwk5a9V-I/SlCip5zRJkI/AAAAAAAACWQ/jDMi1M4IeHY/Rascal%20Flatts%5B2%5D.jpg
[22:00] <pangolin> 20 years ago, I see it
[22:19] <akgraner> he doesn't look like that now - I'll have to get you a recent pic


[04:03] <alex_mayorga> how can I install netbook remix as a desktop option on my laptop?
[11:48] <nebula> beta one ...download ?
[11:49] <bazhang> nebula, not even alpha yet
[11:52] <nebula> ops okey...
[13:25] <sebsebseb> q
[13:25] <sebsebseb> Hi
[13:28] <mainerror> hello
[13:36] <hifi> whats up with bug 635362
[13:37] <hifi> how come a bug is private?
[13:37] <jpds> Because it's an apport-generated bug.
[13:37] <hifi> oh
[13:38] <hifi> is there a solution in the bug?
[13:38] <hifi> I'd really like to get my laptops DRI working again
[13:39] <jpds> hifi: Try asking in #ubuntu-x ?
[13:39] <hifi> sure, thanks
[14:43] <BUGabundo> G'afternoon
[14:51] <Tm_T> K'day
[15:15] <sebsebseb> Any videos from UDS?
[15:17] <Pici> sebsebseb: There are a number of them on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/ubuntudevelopers
[15:17] <IdleOne> http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&sqi=2&ved=0CBkQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DYUAzicy_01o&ei=4NnOTPq2DYycsQODtrD0Dg&usg=AFQjCNEsKmCxUH0golVhaIDcWHW7xOr6mg&sig2=yHCaliLoQqY7sWrmRsYtgQ
[15:17] <IdleOne> wow, long link is long
[15:17] <sebsebseb> ok thanks, coudn't find any for the latest one on videos.ubuntu.com
[15:18] <IdleOne> doesn't look like they have been uploaded
[15:20] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: ok nice you linked directly to the keynote :) and Pici to a few
[15:21] <sebsebseb> i'll watch those later on or  whatever
[15:21] <sebsebseb> Any other multimedia stuff like sound recordings or something, I guess not really?
[15:23] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: Pici Did you go to UDS?
[15:23] <Pici> sebsebseb: I was there, yes.
[15:24] <IdleOne> I was not
[15:24] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: nah me either, but I was some where else, that was hot :)
[18:45] <charlie-tca> micahg: after much digging and questioning, I finally understand!
[18:46] <micahg> charlie-tca: ok, what is this regarding?
[18:46] <charlie-tca> I am sorry that I did not get to see that ARM system
[18:46] <charlie-tca> How much work was installing xubuntu on there?
[18:47] <micahg> charlie-tca: didn't try it yet
[18:47] <micahg> charlie-tca: probably next week I'll get to it
[18:47] <charlie-tca> Okay. Let me know how it works, huh?
[18:47] <micahg> charlie-tca: ok
[19:12] <BUGabundo> EPIC rebooting my Android Desire HD kernel panic my Natty laptop :O
[19:14] <Ian_Corne> I've had simply connecting my milestone to my brother's laptop in the car kernel panic it :p
[20:52] <BUGabundo> yofel: enjoy http://brainbird.net/attachment/1196494
[20:52] <BUGabundo> http://brainbird.net/attachment/1196497
[20:53] <yofel> share some with me :S
[20:54] <BUGabundo> I just did
[20:54] <BUGabundo> :P
[20:55] <yofel> heh, thanks :P
[20:55] <BUGabundo> still have a bunch down stairs
[20:55] <BUGabundo> you are free to ring the door bell anytime
[20:57] <kklimonda_> heh, smartass :P
[21:05] <BUGabundo> hey I'm offering
[21:05] <BUGabundo> it aint all that bad
[21:34] <BUGabundo>     16   0.08s   0.54s  13.5G   1.7G      0   472    0    0  31% chromium-brows
[21:40] <histo> okay
[22:23] <bjsnider> BUGabundo, not using nearly enough ram. it should gobble up another 1.5 gb
[22:26] <BUGabundo> bjsnider: yeah, 13G is nothing
[22:26] <BUGabundo> specially not having SWAP
[22:50] <Ian_Corne> bug 657634
[22:50] <Ian_Corne> gj ubottu :)
[22:54] <bjsnider> that's a kernel bug, not an nvidia bug
[23:01] <Ian_Corne> How do you know?
[23:06] <bjsnider> we established it
[23:06] <bjsnider> and there is an open kernel bug for it
[23:06] <bjsnider> i don't know the number
[23:08] <bjsnider> the problem is that the pci id is 0000, and so the nvidia driver doesn't think there's an nvidia chip in the first place
[23:10] <Ian_Corne> ah
[23:10] <Ian_Corne> with my other nvidia box i get a proper device name with lspci
[23:10] <Ian_Corne> here i get 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0df0 (rev a1)
[23:12] <bjsnider> what about lspci -vvnn
[23:13] <Ian_Corne> VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation Device [10de:0df0] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Device [104d:907a]
[23:14] <bjsnider> there aren't any 0000 in there
[23:14] <Ian_Corne> http://pastebin.com/RuKvFNUh the entire thing
[23:15] <Ian_Corne> any 0000?
[23:17] <bjsnider> i wouldn't be using the xorg.conf that the guy in your bug report is
[23:17] <bjsnider> it's got too much that can go wrong
[23:18] <Ian_Corne> I'm not using any xorg
[23:18] <bjsnider> you need a xorg.conf to load the nvidia driver
[23:19] <Ian_Corne> Yes but that one is broken :)
[23:19] <Ian_Corne> I use nouveau now
[23:21] <bjsnider> that what is broken?
[23:21] <Ian_Corne> ?


[20:40] <damonlynch_> Hi Eickmeyer how is your availability at the moment? Is it better later this afternoon, for you?
[20:47] <Eickmeyer> damonlynch_: Hi! Had to restart right as you came in (error), but I'm in another meeting at the moment. Probably about 1/2 hour or so?
[20:47] <damonlynch_> Eickmeyer, sounds good!
[20:57] <Eickmeyer> damonlynch_: Other call ended. Go ahead and email me a zoom meeting.