[06:33] <Auzy> jabber might be blocked on the firewall
[06:33] <ruslan_osmanov> Auzy, yes. the rest of people in the LAN use gtalk
[06:33] <Auzy> ok.. You can try using jabber instead
[06:33] <administrator> ho
[06:34] <Gunnar> nit-wit: trying now
[06:34] <eloystebam> hi, speak spanish?
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> !es
[06:34] <Gunnar> nit-wit: well something worked i have a terminal login now, but not visual enviroment i expected
[06:34] <nit-wit> Gunnar, type startx
[06:35] <Auzy> ruslan_osmanov: Use these settings with Jabber: http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24076
[06:35] <nit-wit> Gunnar, after logging in
[06:35] <mick_laptop> hi everyone, can someone tell me what logs to look at when a box randomly hangs? I d/l an iso (from a bridged connection) and everytime @35 seconds left - my box hangs
[06:35] <Gunnar> nit-wit: fatal server error: no screens found
[06:35] <Gunnar> lol
[06:35] <mick_laptop> x is unresponsive and I hear my cpu fan go nuts
[06:35] <mick_laptop> i can't even move my mouse
[06:35] <nit-wit> Gunnar, after you logged in
[06:36] <ruslan_osmanov> Auzy, thx. I'll try it
[06:36] <Gunnar> nit-wit: above that i can see failed to load module nvidia module does not exist
[06:37] <Wamphyri> i keep getting a strange error kernel_thread_helper+0x6/0x10
[06:37] <Wamphyri> any suggestions how to get past this to install??
[06:37] <Gunnar> nit-wit: should i install nvidia-current?
[06:37] <phonex01> what does this error mean ???
[06:37] <phonex01>    11.468293] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: request for firmware file 'iwlwifi-5000-2.ucode' failed.
[06:38] <phonex01> [   11.470186] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: request for firmware file 'iwlwifi-5000-1.ucode' failed.
[06:38] <phonex01> [   11.470202] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: no suitable firmware found!
[06:38] <phonex01> [   11.470400] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A disabled
[06:38] <FloodBot2> phonex01: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:38] <nit-wit> Gunnar, I'm not real familiar with loading graphic drivers hopefully others are on here.
[06:38] <Gunnar> i'll try it
[06:38] <nit-wit> Gunnar, its a frsh install you can hardly break it.:)
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> phonex01: are you sure you aren't running debian?
[06:39] <phonex01> im using ubuntu !
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> phonex01: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware
[06:40] <Gunnar> nit-wit: it worked, got login screen now !
[06:41] <nit-wit> Gunnar, cool
[06:41] <phonex01> linux-firmware is already the newest version.
[06:41] <phonex01>  !
[06:41] <litropy> still stumped.
[06:41] <Gunnar> installed nvidia-current, rebooted, works, yay :D
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> phonex01: sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-firmware
[06:41] <litropy> Ubuntu 10.10. Samba installed on both computers. in Network, I can see ThisComputer on OtherBox, but I can't see OtherBox on ThisComputer. Help?
[06:41] <litropy> I have folders set to share
[06:42] <phonex01> Reinstallation of linux-firmware is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[06:42] <litropy> they have entries in samba control panel for rw
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> litropy: can you ping the systems between each other?
[06:42] <mick_laptop> ActionParsnip: why not just dpkg-reconfigure linux-firmware?
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> mick_laptop: either is fine
[06:43] <Wamphyri> i keep getting a strange error kernel_thread_helper+0x6/0x10 , any suggestions how to get past this to install??
[06:44] <litropy> ActionParsnip, yes.
[06:45] <ruslan_osmanov> Auzy, still the same problem. But now it says: No reason given
[06:45] <litropy> ActionParsnip, #samba is silent.
[06:45] <mick_laptop> litropy: might sound a bit stupid, but are both running samba? (not just installed, but verify w/ ps)
[06:45] <mick_laptop> litropy: also check iptables
[06:45] <litropy> mick_laptop, how do I verify?
[06:46] <Gunnar> nit-wit: thanks for the help :)
[06:46] <mick_laptop> run "ps -ax" on both boxes and make sure the appropriate apps are running (I forget, there are 3)
[06:47] <mick_laptop> one for cifs, another for wins and another for something else
[06:47] <mick_laptop> oh yeah, smb
[06:47] <mick_laptop> :)
[06:48] <hans1> i just played a game that went fullscreen, and when it quit my resolution is all messed up, i can't use my desktop
[06:48] <nit-wit> Gunnar, no problem  think that was team work.
[06:48] <nit-wit> *I
[06:48] <mick_laptop> hmm, really interesting whatever i do (download w/ ff or wget) - when I hit 32 seconds left - my box crashes
[06:48] <hans1> how can i fix this without rebooting?
[06:48] <mick_laptop> I wonder if it is a bug in the tcp/ip stack... hmmm
[06:48] <JamezQ> hans1: Try alt-f4
[06:49] <Wamphyri> hans1 ctrl, alt, backspace all same time
[06:49] <Wamphyri> or
[06:49] <Wamphyri> ctrl alt +
[06:49] <JamezQ> hans1: Then type top, and find the program and kill it
[06:49] <mick_laptop> Wamphyri: ctrl alt backspace hasn't worked in quite a few revisions -- they remapped the keys
[06:49] <mick_laptop> no f---ing idea why
[06:49] <JamezQ> was going to say that
[06:49] <hans1> JamesQ i already exited the program, but my screen resolution is wrong
[06:49] <JamezQ> you can turn it on pretty easily
[06:49] <mick_laptop> that always annoyed the hell out of me
[06:49] <Wamphyri> been a while lol
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> mick_laptop: you can re-enable it in keyboard settings...
[06:49] <Wamphyri> ctrl alt + still works?
[06:50] <hans1> Wamphyri: what's that?
[06:50] <Te3-BloodyIron> i'm trying to setup a NFS share and I keep getting "permission denied" when i try to mount it, and after reading multiple howto's i can't figure out why.
[06:50] <mick_laptop> ActionParsnip: yeah, but I always forget on a new install
[06:50] <Te3-BloodyIron> is anyone available that is familiar with this?
[06:50] <Wamphyri> hans1 adjusts your desktop resolutions
[06:50] <JamezQ> hans1: There should be a program to change monitor resolution.
[06:50] <JamezQ> hans1: Look for Xrandr on google if you want to do it from the cli
[06:50] <hans1> Wamphyri: no, doesn't do anything
[06:51] <JamezQ> hans1: Try xrandr
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> mick_laptop: apparently people were pressing it and losing work or something, no idea why (it's worked for the past forever though)
[06:51] <JamezQ> I used to do that for the same reason you do
[06:51] <hans1> JamezQ: yeah, the problem is the resolution is so screwed up i can't use a gui program
[06:51] <Wamphyri> hans1 using + on the key pad?
[06:51] <hans1> i am in virtual terminal
[06:51] <hans1> Wamphyri: laptop, no keypad
[06:51] <litropy> mick_laptop, smbd -F running on both.
[06:51] <Wamphyri> ah ok lol
[06:52] <mick_laptop> litropy: can you connect to the port?
[06:52] <Te3-BloodyIron> is anyone here able to help me with a nfs problem?
[06:52] <mick_laptop> litropy: check /etc/services as I don't remember the three ports for samba
[06:53] <Wamphyri> i keep getting a strange error kernel_thread_helper+0x6/0x10 , any suggestions how to get past this to install??
[06:53] <mick_laptop> litropy: another thing, tail your logs
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> Wamphyri: what are you installing?
[06:53] <JamezQ> hans1: again, try xrandr, it should work
[06:54] <Wamphyri> ActionParsnip ubuntu 10.10 x64
[06:55] <tzq> ..........................
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> Wamphyri: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[06:55] <shimabuku> I've just installed the latest ubuntu on my laptop and got LAMP successfully running on it. How can I hide the extensions when going to a URL for example: http://localhost/sample/
[06:55] <Wamphyri> hmmm no didn't think i would need to since it was leeched from ubuntu.org
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> Wamphyri: that is irrelevant, the data can still be garbaged in transit
[06:56] <iAmerikan> Wamphyri -- unless you torrent it.
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> Wamphyri: did you use torrents?
[06:56] <Wamphyri> i think so not 100% sure i grabbed it a while ago
[06:56] <mick_laptop> shimabuku: are you asking about clean urls? (like for seo type stuff) or are you asking about showing drectories or are you saying that you don't want (presumably) .php to show up as your extension
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Wamphyri: then you have no sure way of knowing the data is healthy
[06:57] <iAmerikan> Wamphyri -- md5sum it, it takes 20 seconds (guess)
[06:57] <cheshire_fox> How would I figure out how to get the gnome-power-manager applet to actually tell me how much battery life I have in hours?  If I click the applet in the notification area, all I get is "Laptop Battery (estimating)".  It's been like this since 10.04.  Before that I didn't have the laptop.
[06:57] <Wamphyri> how you md5 it?
[06:57] <iAmerikan> shimabuku -- what do you mean? And this may not be appropriate for this channel
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[06:57] <LAcan> cheshire_fox, nothing can tell you exactly how much time you have left.
[06:57] <Wamphyri> i just downloaded the alt cd
[06:58] <thebuntutweaker> cheshire_fox: maybe, gnome-power-manager cant detect your battery properly
[06:58] <shimabuku> iAmerikan: first time in IRC, what channel should I join?
[06:58] <Wamphyri> if done by torrent you don't need to md5 it?
[06:58] <cheshire_fox> LAcan: I never said exactly.  And I know this, as the amount of draw on the battery changes depending on what I'm doing
[06:58] <ninjafish> Wamphyri: md5sum <file>
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> Wamphyri: torrents have a LOT of error checking so MD5 isn't needed
[06:58] <iAmerikan> shimabuku -- depends, what do you mean 'hide the extensions'
[06:58] <thebuntutweaker> shimabuku: you already joined this channel
[06:58] <LAcan> cheshire_fox, so do the math in your head, youl have a better prediction
[06:58] <thebuntutweaker> shimabuku: come here for finding answers to all your problems regarding ubuntu
[06:59] <Wamphyri> ActionParsnip ty
[06:59] <iAmerikan> thebuntutweaker -- I believe he wants to do something w/ apache.
[06:59] <cheshire_fox> thebuntutweaker: got a way of seeing if its actually g-p-m (abbreviated) and not apci?
[06:59] <shimabuku> not really looking to achieve seo looking urls, just wanted to know if it is possible to achieve something like http://localhost/sample/ rather than http://localhost/sample/index.html
[06:59] <JamezQ> shimabuku: To "hide" extensions, use folders, not files. use a new folder for every page and then a index file
[06:59] <ecinxi> im having trouble booting
[07:00] <mah454> I have problem with gnome ...
[07:00] <ecinxi> I hit M for manual mounting
[07:00] <LAcan> ecinxi, what kinda trobule?
[07:00] <cheshire_fox> LAcan: That isn't just simple math.  I know the current charge of the battery, but what I don't know is the current draw.  And like I said earlier, that changes on what I'm doing
[07:00] <iAmerikan> shimabuku -- you can do that
[07:00] <JamezQ> shimabuku: Then you will automatically see sample/ and not sample/index.html
[07:00] <ecinxi> what do I type to boot
[07:00] <iAmerikan> shimabuku -- already
[07:00] <mah454> my gnome session automatic exit ... !
[07:00] <mah454> I need gnome session log ...
[07:00] <ecinxi> LAcan, it seems my gnome is broken. I've tried to reinstall it to no avail
[07:00] <ecinxi> i can't boot to nix nor windows
[07:00] <LAcan> cheshire_fox, oh but it is. Use your computer for tn minutes, see how much is used in %, extrapolate for remaining %
[07:01] <iAmerikan> shimabuku -- http://localhost/sample/ is the same as http://localhost/sample/index.html
[07:01] <ruslan_osmanov> folks, empathy fails to log in gmail account!
[07:01] <LAcan> ecinxi, so your boot loader is messed up?
[07:01] <Mack> Nobody was in the beginner's channel so I came here...
[07:01] <ecinxi> LAcan, I think so
[07:01] <iAmerikan> Hello Mack
[07:01] <LAcan> ecinxi, when you boot, do your normal OS options come up?
[07:01] <mick_laptop> shimabuku: actually what you want is to use mod_rewrite for url rewriting
[07:01] <ecinxi> yes
[07:01] <LAcan> ecinxi, ok and u pick windows and then...?
[07:01] <Mack> My question is this: I installed version 9.1 using Sun's Virtual Box. Do I need to uninstall it in order to upgrade to the new version in a few days?
[07:02] <hans1> JamezQ: i have nvidia drivers, don't think xrandr works with them
[07:02] <ecinxi> I don't remember what happens. I haven't tried that option in a week
[07:02] <mick_laptop> shimabuku: it is kind of an advanced topic, you can do what iAmerikan suggested, but in a real project - you'd use mod_rewrite
[07:02] <ecinxi> but it doesnt go to windows
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> Mack: you can upgrade to lucid, then to maverick then to natty
[07:02] <shimabuku> mick_laptop: i actually implemented mod_rewrite via mick_laptop
[07:02] <LAcan> ecinxi, ok what happens when you pick ubuntu?
[07:02] <shimabuku> sudo a2enmod rewrite
[07:02] <Mack> Isn't Lucid the version I already have?
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> Mack: as the install is young I suggest you clean install natty
[07:03] <ecinxi> LAcan, the disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present continue to wait or press s to skip mounting or m for manual recovery
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> Mack: 9.10 == karmic which is EOL real soon. 10.04 == Lucid
[07:03] <cheshire_fox> LAcan: thats great for just that ONE thing.  But I use my laptop for more then one thing.  Even then battery life will vary depending on whats happening below the gui.
[07:03] <JamezQ> hans1: Sorry, then I'm stumped
[07:03] <Mack> Action: I installe d it last spring for a college class, and now I have another class that will be using it. It's not really a "new" install
[07:03] <LAcan> ecinxi, try the windows option and tells me what happens, specifically please
[07:03] <ecinxi> np
[07:03] <iAmerikan> Dear #ubuntu, why'd Canonical ditch aptitude? --love amerikant
[07:04] <Rehan> If I right click on any of my panels it no longer gives me the option to move or add or remove anything from the panel. Could anyone help?
[07:04] <Mack> Action-. Gotcha.
[07:04] <LAcan> cheshire_fox, ya, and no software is gonn accurately compensate for that
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> Mack: ok then if you want natty you will need to upgrade to each successive release. The way you explained it sounded like a new install
[07:04] <LAcan> cheshire_fox, ergo, percentae is your most accurate measure
[07:04] <cheshire_fox> LAcan: I know and I don't even get that. ^_%
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> iAmerikan: it's not ditched at all, its available in the repos
[07:04] <ecinxi> Lacan it seems to be working now, windows that is
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> !info aptitude iAmerikan
[07:04] <mick_laptop> shimabuku: you need more than to just enable it
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> !info aptitude | iAmerikan
[07:05] <LAcan> ecinxi, hrmmm... are these OS' instaled on physically seperate drives or the same drive with partitions?
[07:05] <mick_laptop> shimabuku: you need to figure out what you want to do first, and then edit your apache config to add the rewrite rules
[07:05] <cheshire_fox> LAcan: I just want to know why g-p-m isn't even giving anything remotely useful and then see if I can fix it
[07:05] <LAcan> !info supertuxkart
[07:05] <Mack> ActionParsnip: so do the upgrades in order and I won't lose anything?
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> Mack: should be fine.
[07:06] <iAmerikan> ActionParsnip -- I know it's in the repos, but isn't apt-get depreciated comparitivly
[07:06] <iAmerikan> (sp)
[07:06] <shimabuku> mick_laptop: ok thanks, i will look into that
[07:06] <LAcan> cheshire_fox, is it not giving u a percenage? there are battery mopneitor available
[07:06] <ecinxi> NM, it failed. I hit continue system resume, seen the windows logo resuming windos  now i have a blinking cursor.  That's the blinking cursor I had on my screen for a week.
[07:06] <Mack> OK. Thank you. Am ollking forward to the new release. Have a nice evening
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> iAmerikan: not really
[07:06] <ecinxi> same drive with different partitions
[07:06] <Mack> looking...
[07:06] <mick_laptop> shimabuku: google clean urls with mod_rewrite -- again, this is a bit of an advanced topic for someone new to the whole LAMP tack
[07:06] <mick_laptop> stack*
[07:06] <LAcan> ecinxi, so windows is NOT booting either?
[07:06] <thebuntutweaker> %K      %0
[07:06] <ecinxi> let's see, as much as it pains me, i'll delete windows resume point
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> iAmerikan: but you said "ditched" and it's not at all, it's readily available
[07:07] <mick_laptop> is 385,584,448 some type of a special number in ubuntu?
[07:07] <LAcan> ecinxi, that wasnt the question
[07:07] <cheshire_fox> LAcan: yeah, no percent.  Honestly, a percent would be better as there is less math involved then trying to say 'hey you have x amount of time before your laptop is out of power' every 3 minutes.
[07:07] <keinyoung> hello every one how can i get a pubkey
[07:07] <ecinxi> windows has two options 'continue with system resume' (didn't work)
[07:07] <LAcan> cheshire_fox, did u search synaptics for different battery monitors? there must be one to your liking?
[07:07] <Macer> well. just decided to drop zfs and wait on it to get better
[07:07] <Macer> :)
[07:07] <ecinxi> and delete resotration data and proceed to system boot menu
[07:07] <Evildaemon> keinyoung,  For?
[07:07] <JamezQ> mick_laptop: Why do you ask that?
[07:07] <Macer> maybe in a year or so it will be in distro installs
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> keinyoung: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update   please dude, use a pastebin
[07:08] <Macer> back to hardware raid5 for me
[07:08] <keinyoung> for ubuntu
[07:08] <Macer> with ext4 heh
[07:08] <keinyoung> apt-get
[07:08] <LAcan> ecinxi, ok do you have some recovery CD's around? sounds like youve got data corruption
[07:08] <Evildaemon> wait, like a crypto key??
[07:08] <ecinxi> no i don't
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> keinyoung: i don't follow..
[07:08] <iAmerikan> ActionParsnip -- I understand, but IIRC canonical ditched it to up it's new-user-friendlyness
[07:08] <cheshire_fox> LAcan: I'm more of the kind of girl who likes to fix whats already installed.  I'm use to gpm Although I might look for something that much more lightweight.
[07:08] <LAcan> ecinxi, ok google "ultimate boot cd" download it and burn it
[07:08] <keinyoung> o
[07:09] <LAcan> cheshire_fox, im not in ubuntu right now or id take a look
[07:09] <LAcan> cheshire_fox, will u stil be here n 20 minutes or so?
[07:09] <cheshire_fox> LAcan: understandable.  I'll look myself
[07:09] <cheshire_fox> probably
[07:09] <mick_laptop> JamezQ: seems to be the magic number that crashes my box: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/34652 <-- I have a problem similar to this
[07:09] <iAmerikan> ActionParsnip -- aptitude even has ncurses while apt-get does not
[07:09] <keinyoung> some body can tell me how to get apt-get pubkey thanks!
[07:09]  * LAcan is going for coffee and cigarettes. anyone need anything? ecinxi ill be back in 20 minuts, start downloading that iso
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> iAmerikan: its not part of a default install, that's it.
[07:09] <mick_laptop> ulimit -a shows that pretty much everything is unlimited
[07:10] <ecinxi> LAcan, I deleted the restoration point and windows is working
[07:10] <LAcan> back in 20
[07:10] <ecinxi> k thanks
[07:10] <iAmerikan> ActionParsnip -- okay :) But it's also better w/ depends oob, so I still will never be happy w/ that decision
[07:11] <keinyoung> please tell me
[07:11] <iAmerikan> keinyoung -- what?
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> iAmerikan: both satisfy deps equally well. I've never used aptitude and never had an issue
[07:11] <keinyoung> apt -get pubkey
[07:11] <iAmerikan> ActionParsnip -- Oh I see. :)
[07:12] <keinyoung> iAmerikan please ?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> keinyoung: it depends on the repo you need the key for, if you can give a pastebin of the output of the command I gave, I can advise but simply trying to guess by typing nonesense in the channel does nothing
[07:12] <mick_laptop> whoever asked about adding the key: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys KEY_ID<---this is the number when it says "public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY"
[07:13] <keinyoung> o thanks
[07:13] <mick_laptop> if only someone could help me w/ my issue :(
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> keinyoung: if you run: sudo apt-get update       copy all the text and paste on http://pastebin.com    and I can advise
[07:14] <mick_laptop> ActionParsnip: he left
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> me too, home time :)
[07:15] <mick_laptop> ActionParsnip: he was just missing the key, I bet what I said helped him
[07:15] <mick_laptop> now i'm talking to myelf
[07:15] <syrinx_> lol
[07:15] <mick_laptop> *sigh*
[07:15] <syrinx_> don't talk to yourself mate
[07:16] <mick_laptop> I think I'll just use split on this file
[07:16] <mick_laptop> it is an ubuntu iso :(
[07:16] <syrinx_> why ya doin that?
[07:17] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: What problem are you having?
[07:18] <mick_laptop> syrinx_: seems to be a bug where I can't d/l "large" files (in this case a 700mb iso over ethernet)
[07:18] <mick_laptop> always dies at 385,584,448
[07:18] <syrinx_> ouch
[07:18] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: wget -c
[07:18] <mick_laptop> Jordan_U: right, I've done that
[07:18] <mick_laptop> and it dies
[07:18] <mick_laptop> I've used wget -c and ff
[07:19] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: "dies" how?
[07:19] <mick_laptop> x becomes unresponsive and my cpu fan goes nuts
[07:19] <mick_laptop> my mouse also becomes unresponsive
[07:19] <mick_laptop> ctrl+alt+f# also doesn't work and I need to reboot
[07:19] <Macer> hm
[07:20] <Macer> where do i find the uuid of a partition?
[07:20] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | mick_laptop
[07:20] <Macer> i wanted to use a uuid for my raid
[07:20] <Jordan_U> Macer: sudo blkid
[07:20] <Macer> thanks
[07:20] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: Have you filed a bug report?
[07:20] <mick_laptop> Jordan_U: easier to remember to pull the plug
[07:20] <mick_laptop> Jordan_U: no, but I found a similar bug from a few years ago
[07:21] <Macer> Jordan_U: in fstab do i just put the uuid?
[07:21] <Macer> no UUID= or something like that?
[07:21] <mick_laptop> I'm bridging my connection over ethernet which might have something to do w/ it
[07:21] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: Yes, but pulling the plug doesn't shut down cleanly.
[07:21] <Jordan_U> !fstab | Macer
[07:21] <mick_laptop> it isn't as much fun
[07:21] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: Unless you have very good reason to believe it is the same bug then please file a new one.
[07:22] <Macer> thanks
[07:22] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: ubuntu-bug linux
[07:22] <mick_laptop> yaya
[07:22] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: Also please try the latest vanilla upstream kernel and see if you can reproduce the bug.
[07:22] <iAmerikan> mick_laptop -- do you know reisub
[07:23] <mick_laptop> Jordan_U: it is a fresh 10.10 install on a vanilla kernel
[07:23] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: Vanilla upstream kernel means no Ubuntu specific patches.
[07:23] <mick_laptop> Jordan_U: oh, no I haven't
[07:23] <mick_laptop> I'll triage once I get something done here
[07:24] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[07:24] <mick_laptop> I want to remix this damned iso before I rip all my hair out of my head
[07:24] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: Be sure to install the headers as well if you are using proprietary drivers (like nvidia).
[07:24]  * LAcan omg crush cream soda -- so good
[07:24] <mick_laptop> Jordan_U: can I ping you later (another time) if I have issues w/ that?
[07:25] <mick_laptop> right now, I'm focused more on my issue than on getting a proper fix in place
[07:25] <LAcan> cheshire_fox, so ya, ur gonna have to install a different battery manager. the one that comes with lxde is good-ish
[07:25] <mick_laptop> and submitting a lengthy bug report to the bts
[07:26] <mick_laptop> interesting, I have done wget -c a few times (and then rebooted)
[07:26] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: Yes, though I'm going to sleep soon.
[07:26] <mick_laptop> Jordan_U: I meant another day
[07:27] <cheshire_fox> LAcan: one that has support for the gnome-panel would be nice
[07:27] <mick_laptop> it seems like -c 5 or 6 times helped
[07:27] <Spaz_Dynamic> gah, I want 11.04 to release already
[07:27] <LAcan> cheshire_fox, did u look thru the software centre?
[07:27] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: Again fine, again you're more likely than not to catch me when I'm not here :)
[07:27] <cheshire_fox> not yet, got stuck playing minecraft
[07:27] <LAcan> cheshire_fox, lol, im partial to gBrainy or Cuby
[07:27] <Macer> dev/sda1             6.3T  181M  6.3T   1% /mnt/Storage
[07:28] <Macer> ouch ... that's quite a bit of overhead
[07:28] <Macer> 700GB lost
[07:28] <mick_laptop> shit, md5s don't match
[07:28] <Macer> ah well.. i suppose 6.3T will have to do
[07:28] <mick_laptop> and wget -c gives a 416 Requested Range Not Satisfiable
[07:28] <LAcan> man is there a good antivrus chat somewhere on IRC?
[07:29] <mick_laptop> LAcan: #clamav ?
[07:29] <mick_laptop> LAcan: define av chat :)
[07:29] <LAcan> mick_laptop, I said "good" lol
[07:29] <mick_laptop> LAcan: well there used to be (but now is defunct) #clamwin
[07:29] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: There is still hope in magic that is zsync :)
[07:29] <cheshire_fox> LAcan: I'm going to try the powermanager from xfce
[07:29] <LAcan> cheshire_fox, ya thats the one
[07:30] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: It will allow you to redownload only the bits that are wrong.
[07:30] <mick_laptop> LAcan: there are a few that are more security related - what are you after?
[07:30] <ubuntu> hi
[07:30] <LAcan> mick_laptop, someone who can solve persistent Alureon infections
[07:30] <LAcan> mick_laptop, on windows of course
[07:30] <sIRC> mick_laptop, on windows of course
[07:31] <LAcan> wth
[07:31] <mick_laptop> LAcan: well, if you have an infected box, best bet is to wipe and reinstall
[07:31] <LAcan> mick_laptop, ya see, i did that already
[07:31] <mick_laptop> another box on your network is attacking this box and reinfecting it?
[07:32] <LAcan> mick_laptop, i suspect its coming thru browser files... infected ads or something
[07:32] <ubuntu> is natty a stable release?
[07:32] <mick_laptop> well flash had a pretty bad security hole that was patched on the 15th or so
[07:33] <mick_laptop> LAcan: I'd recommend FF w/ adblock plus + noscript
[07:33] <sIRC> LAcan: I'd recommend FF w/ adblock plus + noscript
[07:33] <LAcan> mick_laptop, but now that u mention it, i am using my neighbours open wifi.. and if his wifi is open...
[07:33] <top_ramen> grrrr that program is broken..... or my computer is lol
[07:33] <LAcan> mick_laptop, im on ff4 is that plugin available?
[07:33] <mick_laptop> LAcan: yeah, if you don't control the boxes on your network and your box isn't hardened
[07:33] <mick_laptop> ...
[07:33] <mick_laptop> :)
[07:33] <Afteraffekt> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Multimedia/Flash#For_i386
[07:33] <mick_laptop> LAcan: yes, both are
[07:34] <LAcan> mick_laptop, i assume no script breaks gresemonkey/icefilms ?
[07:34] <mick_laptop> LAcan: another thing, are you installing from CD?
[07:34] <ohzie> lol su -c
[07:34] <mick_laptop> LAcan: no
[07:34] <ohzie> "we're too good for sudo"
[07:34]  * top_ramen is ready to take a hammer to his computer
[07:34] <LAcan> mick_laptop, ya a real vista cd.. well from alienware
[07:34] <mick_laptop> LAcan: you whitelist each domain
[07:35] <mick_laptop> LAcan: ok, from a non-infected linux box - d/l the security updates for vista. take the windows box offline and do a reinstall (don't go online) - then patch it and get it up to date first
[07:36] <mick_laptop> get the latest version of flash from adobe before browsing the web
[07:36] <freaky[t]> hi all, i got a question. I did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and now the boot splash and grub background is blue and it says booting kubuntu but i want it back to ubuntu how do i do that?
[07:36] <LAcan> mick_laptop, ya i dont think that will solve it... im running multiple AV systmes here that are detecting and cleaning it but for example, my last infection came overnight while pc was just sitting at logon screen
[07:37] <Jordan_U> !windows | LAcan
[07:37] <mick_laptop> LAcan: vista comes w/ a lot of security holes by default if you don't patch your system
[07:37] <tase> hey guys my laptop is running quite hot, ubuntu 10.10, temperature is fine on windows 7
[07:37] <LAcan> mick_laptop, ya ima look into adblock and no script... man theres a lot of these adblock plugins... which one do I want?
[07:37] <mick_laptop> LAcan: and if you have botnet infected machines on *cough* your *cough* network - then you are bound to get your box rooted
[07:38] <LAcan> tase, what kind of GPU u got?
[07:38] <mick_laptop> adblock plus
[07:38] <mick_laptop> tase: is this a netbook?
[07:38] <tase> mick_laptop, no, full size Gateway laptop
[07:38] <top_ramen> can someone help me with my laptop before i trash it
[07:38] <Spaz_Dynamic> tase: what is your preformance setting? It might have your CPU clocked all the way up.
[07:38] <LAcan> mick_laptop, is adblock gonna break facebook or gmail or anything?
[07:38] <mick_laptop> tase: I had an eeepc get insainly hot when doing anything, shitty hw design IMO
[07:39] <tase> LAcan, just an intel imbedded gpu
[07:39] <mick_laptop> LAcan: no, just whitelist things as you go
[07:39] <tase> mick_laptop, runs fine on windows tho
[07:39] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: LAcan: Please move Windows conversation to another channel (like ##windows or #ubuntu-offtopic).
[07:39] <mick_laptop> LAcan: they will "look broken" at first
[07:39] <Spaz_Dynamic> top_ramen: you have yet to say what is wrong, and until you do, nobody can help you
[07:39] <akma> Does my ubuntu remain if i reinstall windows? my linux is wubi installed.
[07:39] <mick_laptop> LAcan: i'll /msg you
[07:39] <cheshire_fox> LAcan: the xfce power manager worked for me :D
[07:39] <LAcan> cheshire_fox, bingo!
[07:39] <Jordan_U> akma: No (even with wubi).
[07:40] <tase> Spaz_Dynamic, performance settings ? my CPU downclocks
[07:40] <top_ramen> My laptop doesnt not have a cd drive and i am trying to install ubuntu 10.10. and its not working so well
[07:40] <Spaz_Dynamic> tase: It is downclocking?
[07:40] <top_ramen> i tried putting it on a usb and boot from it but it wont work
[07:41] <tase> Spaz_Dynamic, yea, the little applet reports its at 60%, set "Ondemand"
[07:41] <top_ramen> i tried running the iso vai daemon tools... failed again
[07:41] <Jordan_U> akma: It's actually more difficult to keep Ubuntu when re-installing Windows with Wubi than with a normal dual boot install on a separate partition.
[07:41] <akma> Jordan_U: so what are my options if i want to install ubuntu? wubi takes much time
[07:41] <Spaz_Dynamic> top_ramen: how did you try and put it on the usb stick?
[07:41] <ubuntu> top_ramen, check bios
[07:41] <Jordan_U> top_ramen: How are you trying to create the USB? What happens when you try to boot from it?
[07:41] <mah454> How i can redirect help commandss to file . For example "cdrecord --help > help"
[07:41] <akma> Jordan_U: i have it on a separate partition
[07:41] <Afteraffekt> what file type should a script for Xchat be?
[07:42] <Jordan_U> akma: Follow the instructions @ http://ubuntu.com/download/
[07:42] <top_ramen> my laptop ignores it as if nothing is plugged in
[07:42] <Jordan_U> mah454: cdrecord --help 2> help
[07:42] <charles245dfg4> Does anyone know how to fix the blank screen issue?  I think it's due to the monitor resolution and I've tried all the standard methods of fixing it: adding xforcevesa, nomodeset, vga=771, etc to the boot parameters
[07:43] <charles245dfg4> I also tried the alternate install CD, same issue, once ubuntu loads the monitor gets no input
[07:44] <Jordan_U> charles245dfg4: After install, or is there a problem loading the installer itself?
[07:44] <Spaz_Dynamic> tase: hmm, on demand pops your CPU clock from minimum clock speed to maximum if I remember right. Try setting it to... ah bugger, can't remember it. There is Performance, Power save (or similar), ondemand, and something else. Do the last one. It should clock your processor up by smaller steps (if possible) which will reduce both power consumption and heat output
[07:44] <lwizardl> what video card ?
[07:44] <charles245dfg4> Loading the installer unfortunately :(
[07:44] <tase> Spaz_Dynamic, "Conservative" ?
[07:44] <charles245dfg4> it's an XFX ATI radeon hd 5770
[07:44] <Spaz_Dynamic> tase: Yes, thats the one.
[07:44] <Jordan_U> Akuma: Having your Wubi root.disk on a different partition than "C:" is not currently supported, and can break fairly catastrophically.
[07:45] <Spaz_Dynamic> tase: that one, for example, clocks my cpu from 1ghz to 1.3, 1.6 and 2.0 ghz as needed by cpu utilization.
[07:46] <tase> Spaz_Dynamic, I see, ill set it to that, also is there a way to control the computer fans, or is it only managed by the BIOS ?
[07:46] <top_ramen> ???
[07:46] <charles245dfg4> I also think I tried the failsafex option
[07:47] <Spaz_Dynamic> tase: that is normally controlled by bios, I believe. I know my fans normally adjust to clock speed/power draw and actual heat of the processor
[07:47] <Spaz_Dynamic> tase: Though I could be wrong.
[07:48] <LAcan> anyone ever use opensync with their Blackberry? or any contact sync solution for ubuntu?
[07:48] <Spaz_Dynamic> tase: my laptop kicks the fan up as soon as the cpu clocks up, and if it maintains that, it speeds the fan up more (as I assume the cpu is getting warmer)
[07:50] <Spaz_Dynamic> tase: and sometimes it takes a while for the fans to slow down, I know my tower will take it's sweet time before lowering the fan to it's lowest setting (which is nigh silent).
[07:50] <rom4ik> this is my first time using IRC
[07:50] <mick_laptop> rom4ik: welcome
[07:51] <rom4ik> how to reply back to a particular person?
[07:51] <BlackDalek> how do I chat or send messages over the LAN without the need to go via internet?
[07:52] <mick_laptop> LAcan: http://www.netdirect.ca/software/packages/barry
[07:52] <rom4ik> mick_laptop thank you
[07:53] <Spaz_Dynamic> rom4ik: what client are you using?
[07:54] <rom4ik> XChat
[07:54] <drei> Hey I'm running a 64 bit ubuntu 10.10, would it be alright if I installed a deb file which is a 32 bit application and run?
[07:54] <rom4ik> Spaz_Dynamic: XChat
[07:54] <Ringwaul> Soooo I have no idea how to download Natty
[07:54] <Ringwaul> Maverick won't install :(
[07:54] <mick_laptop> Jordan_U: ok, how do i use zsync? I've read the manpage and i'm still a bit lost
[07:54] <pkkm> Yesterday Ubuntu was OK. Today I booted it and got "Kernel panic - not syncing VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)". How to fix it?
[07:55] <mick_laptop> drei: yes - should be ok
[07:55] <rom4ik> how to reply back to a person without typing the name manually in Xchat
[07:55] <drei> okay thank you mick_laptop, I will try it
[07:55] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: First you need to find the .zsync file on one of the Ubuntu download mirrors.
[07:55] <Spaz_Dynamic> rom4ik: not familiar with that one, but normally, you can use tab to complete a username. I think some clients use control-r or something to "reply" to the last person you said your name or similar. I just use tab completion.
[07:55] <rom4ik> pkkm: check /etc/fstab
[07:55] <shcherbak> rom4ik: shch<TAB> ?
[07:55] <mick_laptop> Ringwaul: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[07:55] <Ringwaul> woo
[07:56] <Jordan_U> Ringwaul: #ubuntu+1 for natty.
[07:56] <rom4ik> Spaz_Dynamic, wow!!! TAB works!!! thank you
[07:56] <rom4ik> shcherbak, thank you!!!
[07:56] <sekkis> xdcc
[07:57] <pkkm> rom4ik, OK, I will mount the Ubuntu partition and check /etc/fstab when fsck finishes.
[07:57] <Ringwaul> mmk
[07:57] <shcherbak> :)
[07:57] <Spaz_Dynamic> rom4ik: you're most welcome.  glad I could help
[07:57] <BlackDalek> Is there any client for ubuntu that allows LAN chat with no internet connection?
[07:57] <shcherbak> BlackDalek: ntalk
[07:57] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: Then zsync -i /path/to/what_you_have_already.iso http://url.com/file.zsync
[07:57] <Spaz_Dynamic> rom4ik: anything else you wanna know? We should probably move out of #ubuntu or at least start messaging if we're going to continue non-ubuntu related things.
[07:57] <mick_laptop> thanks - so it is like jigdo (which I've used w/ debian before)
[07:58] <top_ramen> how can i install ubuntu 10.10 without a cd drive?
[07:58] <Ringwaul> USB stick?
[07:58] <rom4ik> top_ramen, USB
[07:58] <mick_laptop> top_ramen: using a usb stick or sd reader+card
[07:58] <mick_laptop> damned, beat me to it :)
[07:58] <Ringwaul> lol
[07:58] <red2kic> BlackDalek: Bonjour (Pidgin use it).
[07:58] <Spaz_Dynamic> top_ramen: did you ever say how you tried putting the image on the stick?
[07:58] <rom4ik> top_ramen, go to ubuntu.com and click download then click usb install
[07:58] <top_ramen> i cant get those to work... i dont know what i am doing wrong
[07:59] <Spaz_Dynamic> top_ramen: also, does your bios support booting usb?
[07:59] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: In a way. But they use very different methods (jigdo can also be used to grab Ubuntu alternate isos).
[07:59] <top_ramen> i dont think so Spaz
[07:59] <mick_laptop> Jordan_U: why can't we just all stick to rsync :)
[07:59] <Jordan_U> top_ramen: How did you create the USB?
[08:00] <Spaz_Dynamic> top_ramen: well if your bios doesn't support booting USB sticks, then that is why it won't boot off of them, regardless of if it was created correctly or not. Can you confirm whether it does or not?
[08:00] <mah454> How i can use burg for making iso file ?
[08:00] <mah454> How i can use burg-mkrescue command for making iso file ?
[08:00] <red2kic> mick_laptop: there are no .rsync file :(
[08:01] <rom4ik> Spaz_Dynamic, I'm trying to find a way to find IRC chanell for Hackintosh install. I found this link (http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=163252) this is for my M50VM but I don't know if i can install it right now(I have windows and ubuntu 10.10 installed) using grub as a bootloader..i found easyBSD software but i'm not sure if the macosx will not delete it...basically i need macosx to use djay(it is only for macs)
[08:01] <herman> hi all, short question: unity just crashed, resulting in loss of everything i had open. I know this is the risk of running beta software, but where do i find unity-logs? I'd better report it because it'll almost be released
[08:01] <top_ramen> Spaz: when i go into my bios it list what i can boot off of
[08:01] <mick_laptop> damned box froze again :(
[08:01] <mick_laptop> reboot time
[08:02] <BlackDalek> does pidgin allow chat over a LAN? - I thought pidgin was for over the internet protocols only?
[08:02] <top_ramen> i used the universal usb installer on the ubuntu site
[08:03] <red2kic> BlackDalek: You forget that Pidgin is a multi-protocol client.
[08:03] <herman> does unity have a specific logfile at all?
[08:03] <rzx237> BlackDalek: yes it does
[08:03] <mick_laptop> BlackDalek: yes it does bonjour - i haven't tried it though
[08:04] <BlackDalek> ok
[08:04] <Spaz_Dynamic> top_ramen: does it list USB devices or something similar? or have it in a list for adding to the bootable devices?
[08:04] <top_ramen> nope
[08:04] <rom4ik> Spaz_Dynamic, if u could help me with my query that would be great....if not its ok ill try google
[08:04] <anuragr> Supybot
[08:05] <top_ramen> Spaz, when i use the universal usb program i get a lot of errors
[08:06] <Spaz_Dynamic> top_ramen: then as far as I can tell, I don't believe your computer can boot off of USB sticks. if you can do a PXE aka network install, then that might be possible, but I haven't any idea how to do that so someone else would need to assist you.
[08:06] <mick_laptop> rom4ik: the #1 rule of irc is search the web first, if nothing shows up - then ask
[08:06] <mick_laptop> :)
[08:06] <mick_laptop> friendly reminder
[08:06] <rom4ik> mick_laptop, thank you!!! i didn't know the rules
[08:06] <mick_laptop> Spaz_Dynamic: for that you need a tftp server
[08:07] <Macer> sigh. kind of disappointed i couldn't get this old server to use zfs
[08:07] <Macer> :)
[08:07] <Macer> i need to find a gbit box around here and test the hw raid speeds
[08:07] <mick_laptop> Macer: freebsd? or opensolaris?
[08:07] <Macer> hm. pci-x is backwards compatible with pci right?
[08:07] <Macer> ubuntu heh
[08:07] <mick_laptop> opensolaris is a PITA :)
[08:07] <Macer> i was trying out the spl build
[08:07] <Macer> not really
[08:07] <mick_laptop> Macer: ubuntu? you mean via FUSE?
[08:07] <freaky[t]> hi all, i got a question. I did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and now the boot splash and grub background is blue and it says booting kubuntu but i want it back to ubuntu how do i do that?
[08:08] <top_ramen> Spaz, real quick i am using a tablet pc should i use the netbook verson or the desktop?
[08:08] <Macer> it just does certain things that were driving me nuts
[08:08] <Macer> opensolaris that is
[08:08] <Macer> mick_laptop: no. spl "native" zfs for linux
[08:08] <rom4ik> freaky[t], I would go to text mode stop kde remove kubuntu environment and install gdm
[08:08] <Macer> but zfs really wasn't the main issue (which it was an issue)
[08:08] <mick_laptop> freaky[t]: apt-get remove  kubuntu-desktop :)
[08:08] <Macer> the problem was my raid and onboard sata
[08:08] <orangey> hello all
[08:08] <Spaz_Dynamic> top_ramen: I would probably just use desktop, but that's me. It's probably more of a personal preference
[08:08] <ubuntu> nick FatherOfGod
[08:08] <orangey> anybody have some success with the gnome3-team ppa?
[08:09] <Macer> the luns wouldn't detect properly when jboding the raid card :)
[08:09] <orangey> I'm not able to login
[08:09] <spirals> freaky[t], you can do it more easily than that:
[08:09] <freaky[t]> mick_laptop: i tried apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[08:09] <orangey> I keep getting the "oh no!" message
[08:09] <Macer> i had conflicting luns.. it was the weirdest thing.
[08:09] <spirals> freaky[t], just do sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:09] <mick_laptop> Macer: url? i thought that wasn't possible because of the CDL + GPL licensing incompatibility
[08:09] <Macer> i didn't think there was a limit on that sort of stuff
[08:09] <Macer> er... one sec..
[08:09] <spirals> freaky[t], that will give you a question "Make GDM default?" Say Yes
[08:09] <freaky[t]> spirals: gdm is allready the manager i have at login screen
[08:09] <rom4ik> freaky[t], first stop KDE ...then remove as mick_laptop said them install ubuntu-desktop
[08:09] <_sd325> how do i get the kernel selection menu when the pc starts?
[08:09] <hp_> #demonoid
[08:09] <spirals> Oh you're talking about the bootsplash then
[08:09] <shcherbak> freaky[t]: reinstall gdm after you will try to change session in login screen.
[08:09] <spirals> Gotcha.
[08:10] <Macer> http://zfsonlinux.org/
[08:10] <mick_laptop> freaky[t]: just uninstall the other one, and make sure you have gdm installed
[08:10] <freaky[t]> spirals: i mean the bootup screen
[08:10] <freaky[t]> guys i mean the bootup screen and the grub splash
[08:10] <mick_laptop> Macer: they are incompatible
[08:10] <Macer> ?
[08:10] <Macer> the onboard scsi and the card?
[08:10] <Jordan_U> top_ramen: What errors? (And can you use my nick in your answer so I notice it?)
[08:10] <mick_laptop> something tells me they didn't care when putting that together :)
[08:10] <spirals> freaky[t], the package for that is plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo (on natty), there should be an equivalent package in older ubuntus, removing it will return you to the default bootsplash
[08:10] <rom4ik> mick_laptop, I spent hours finding djay software for ubuntu(it is for macs only) i found only mixxx soft for linux which is not quite what i want, any help?
[08:11] <Macer> mick_laptop: haha
[08:11] <mick_laptop> Macer: no the licenses
[08:11] <litropy> I installed ubuntu-desktop. Now, I want to "upgrade" to ubuntu-server. How do I do so?
[08:11] <Macer> yeah. that's what i understood too but who knows
[08:11] <spirals> freaky[t], do 'apt-cache search kubuntu|grep boot' to find it
[08:11] <Macer> maybe they are just waiting to get sued or something :)
[08:11] <mick_laptop> no distro would pick that up
[08:11] <mick_laptop> yeah
[08:11] <mick_laptop> :)
[08:11] <Macer> mick_laptop: an underground distro could :)
[08:11] <mick_laptop> litropy: *sigh* server is the same as desktop minus the UI
[08:11]  * Macer pictures UndLinux
[08:11] <Jordan_U> litropy: Install whatever server packages you want. Ubuntu flavors differ only in their default installed packages.
[08:12] <mick_laptop> litropy: you don't "upgrade" to it
[08:12] <Macer> mick_laptop: ubuntu server?
[08:12] <freaky[t]> spirals: thank you
[08:12] <freaky[t]> and thanks all others for the help :)
[08:12] <Macer> weren't they always the same? :) i don't see what you can add to server that would make it much different
[08:12] <mick_laptop> Macer: yeah, I was talking to litropy
[08:12] <Macer> oh
[08:12] <Macer> sorry
[08:12] <litropy> mick_laptop, I know. Which is why I put "upgrade" in quotes.
[08:12] <mick_laptop> yeah it is the same, minus X windows
[08:12] <spirals> freaky[t], you're welcome, did you identify a package for the kubuntu boot splash on your system?
[08:13] <mick_laptop> litropy: then just remove the UI stuff
[08:13] <Macer> heh... well... xorg is a waste on a server :)
[08:13] <mick_laptop> right
[08:13] <spirals> Macer, xvfb <3
[08:13] <Macer> i don't even keep a monitor attached to my server 99% of the time
[08:13] <Macer> unless there is a serious problem
[08:14] <freaky[t]> spirals:  i did
[08:14] <Macer> i was surprised the nvraid was so easily supported
[08:14] <litropy> mick_laptop, K. I was just making sure server doesn't include anything extra.
[08:14] <JamezQ> You should always use headless servers
[08:14] <freaky[t]> spirals:  i didsudo apt-get install --reinstall plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text
[08:14] <Macer> i remember that being just horrible a few years ago
[08:14] <JamezQ> I love ubuntu server :), the sound of running fans put's be to sleep like a lullaby.
[08:14] <Macer> nice to see i have a mirror which probably won't really save anything haha
[08:14] <JamezQ> me*
[08:14] <spirals> freaky[t], that should do it too.
[08:15] <mick_laptop> Macer: very interesting: http://zfsonlinux.org/zfs-disclaimer.html
[08:15] <_sd325> how do i get the kernel selection menu when the pc starts?
[08:15] <spirals> freaky[t], you're on natty?
[08:15] <freaky[t]> spirals: ok thank you very much :D
[08:15] <freaky[t]> spirals: yes
[08:15] <spirals> freaky[t], k feel free to pm me if it doesnt work, i'm on natty/kubuntu as well
[08:15] <Macer> mnt/Storage   6.3T   11G  6.2T   1% /mnt/Storage
[08:15]  * Macer sheds a tear
[08:15] <mick_laptop> "This work was prepared as an account of work sponsored by an agency of the United States Government."
[08:15] <freaky[t]> spirals: i gotta reboot now th en
[08:15] <mick_laptop> Macer: ^^^
[08:15] <Ringwaul> Macer: A single indian tear?
[08:16] <Macer> i lost a lot of stuff on that with this little project.. looks like i will be using hw raid and ext4 for a long time :)
[08:16] <mick_laptop> Macer: doing a contract for the DOE will make you unsueable :)
[08:17] <Macer> mick_laptop: :) yup
[08:17] <Macer> last i checked you can't sue the federal government
[08:18] <mick_laptop> Macer: I really have no idea how they plan on pulling it off. I mean you can't just say "oh just license this little bit of code under the CDDL here and the rest is GPL"
[08:18] <mick_laptop> Macer: you *can* (that is in the constitution)
[08:18] <Macer> i thought the constitution says "you can't"
[08:19] <Macer> or that the fed government does not have to honor civil law suits against it
[08:19] <Macer> it has been a while tho.. :) but either way. i don't see why you can't use both licenses
[08:19] <Macer> doesn't ubuntu have closed source drivers?
[08:19] <Ringwaul> :X
[08:19] <Macer> :)
[08:20] <Macer> there is quite a bit that is probably included in ubuntu which falls under licenses that are not compatible with the gpl.. but the only thing that you probably WON'T see is zfs making its way into the offical linux kernel branches any time soon
[08:20] <Spaz_Dynamic> good grief, when did it become 3:20 AM?
[08:21] <Macer> which makes me wonder.. if an installer had scripts to keep gpl and cddl stuff apart.. then why can't you make a distro using both?
[08:22] <Macer> i like it when the linux community sues hardware manufacturers for releasing closed drivers because they have 1 line of obscure code . that's the spirit.. force openness to alienate potential fully working hardware :)
[08:23] <mick_laptop> Macer: it workss like this... you can and you can't
[08:23] <Macer> in exchange for a kernel module which works half way and never gets finished before the hardware in question is obsolete heh
[08:23] <Veidit> Good morning, I have a problem with NIS, I am using these instructions and it's working great for me: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNISHowTo But one user that logs in via his mac dosn't get in the right groups, but if he log in via the yp server first and then ssh to the any other server it works.
[08:23] <mick_laptop> Macer: you can't sure a department (like the IRS) it is considered a Federal sovereign immunity
[08:23] <mick_laptop> Macer: but you can sue the federal govt
[08:23] <_sd325> how do i get the kernel selection menu when the pc starts? I want to start 10.04 with an older kernel
[08:24] <mick_laptop> Macer: i meant "can't sue"
[08:24] <llutz_> _sd325: hold left shift while booting
[08:24] <Fleck> _sd325 usually ESC after POST screens
[08:24] <ray_> How do I see what's under a dir?
[08:25] <evelyette> hi, is it possible to enter password for mysql-server (root) in advance ... so the package configuration doesn't not pop up asking for root password ?
[08:25] <ray_> Like lost and found
[08:25] <rach0> ray_, ls- al
[08:25] <Macer> heh. well. i can't say i'm too keen on civil laws against the us govt .. either way though. i know that dod had a 20 years license with a software company.. they reverse engineered their code and cancelled the part that would force the software to expire then the company tried to sue them for doing it and it was thrown out .. forgot how long ago that was
[08:25] <ray_> TY
[08:25] <_sd325> thanks
[08:26] <llutz_> !ot
[08:26] <Macer> but i don't see why ubuntu can't use both the gpl and cddl in unison :)
[08:26] <mick_laptop> Macer: they are incompatible licenses
[08:26] <Macer> in order to provide zfs in the installer.. but i suppose that depends more on what limitations are in the cddl
[08:26] <Dan_> hi all
[08:27] <Macer> incompatible with what though?
[08:27] <ray_> ls: cannot access al: No such file or directory
[08:27] <Fleck> ls -al
[08:27] <Macer> they are incompatible as far as using zfs code in a linux kernel.. but that can be worked around
[08:27] <iAmerikan> Macer -- Ubuntu targets ease of use and etc. Why am I reading about zfs and whatnot?!?1
[08:27] <mick_laptop> Macer: if you link code to a GPL app - your app must be GPL (or a license that is compatible) -- which CDDL is not
[08:27] <mick_laptop> Macer: it was worked around via FUSE before
[08:28] <rach0> ray_, ls -al, i mistyped it
[08:28] <Dan_> hey does anyone know what the default ubuntu USB webcam /dev would be? I have a CCTV setup that I'm trying to get working on ubuntu
[08:28] <ray_> I see
[08:28] <ray_> TY
[08:28] <mick_laptop> iAmerikan: OSX was going to use ZFS - it doesn't have to be hard
[08:28] <Macer> mick_laptop: that it was. in order to prevent code from mingling :)
[08:28] <red2kic> Dan_: /dev/video* ?
[08:28] <mick_laptop> iAmerikan: it is actually a great file system that makes your life easier
[08:28] <Macer> but ubuntu can just as easily find a way to keep all the code apart and have it come together during the install
[08:29] <mick_laptop> Macer: yeah, this however doesn't do that :)
[08:29] <Ringwaul> Soooo
[08:29] <mick_laptop> Macer: either way - it should be interesting to see what happens
[08:29] <Dan_> red2kic: thanks I tried /dev/video0 should it be just /dev/video
[08:29] <iAmerikan> mick_laptop -- I know. But I'm thinking in term of what ubuntu's been using, what people were familiar with, and whatnor
[08:29] <Ringwaul> Natty isn't listed in the USB installer program
[08:29] <Ringwaul> :<
[08:29] <mick_laptop> Macer: doen't quite work like taht
[08:29] <ray_> OK, so I got this:
[08:29] <iAmerikan> mick_laptop -- but you're completely right. different fs != different difficulty.
[08:29] <ray_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/599142/
[08:29] <ray_> There are 20 itmes
[08:29] <ray_> I guess
[08:29] <Macer> that it should. i really do believe oracle will keep that cddl until it goes bankrupt too :)
[08:30] <red2kic> Dan_: /dev/video might be pointed at /dev/video0 (or video1) -- Dpeends on how many cameras are hooked.
[08:30] <mick_laptop> iAmerikan: do you know what kind of features it has?
[08:30] <ray_> so how do I find out what they are?
[08:30] <Macer> there were rumors of it turning gpl when sun had it but i suppose oracle changed their minds
[08:30] <Macer> if zfs was allowed to run amok... what is left of solaris would die out very quickly
[08:30] <Dan_> red2kic: thanks mate, I have in dmesg the following :  Acer Crystal Eye webcam as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-5/1-5:1.0/input/input6
[08:30] <ray_> Or rather 20 of what ever
[08:31] <iAmerikan> mick_laptop -- not atm
[08:31] <Macer> anyways. i need to see if this kubuntu box can use this pci-x card in a pci slot :)
[08:31] <Macer> i remember pci-x being backwards compatible but don't remember
[08:31] <Macer> kind of in between
[08:32] <mick_laptop> iAmerikan: it has deduplication for one... so if you have the same 10 gig file 4 times... it takes up 10 gigs and not 40, another thing is that it has better data reliability (files don't get corrupted) and it is easy to add/remove storage
[08:32] <Macer> i got the card just because osol didn't support the onboard nv nics :(
[08:32] <Macer> which ubuntu does :)
[08:32] <iAmerikan> That's awesome mick_laptop I'll check it out in my next distro install.\
[08:32] <Ringwaul> Back in high-school we used this Linux distro that had KDE; I remember it being awesome and such. Now when I get Kubuntu I am wondering what the hell happened...
[08:32] <mick_laptop> iAmerikan: so if you add an external storage device then your hdd can just be seen as being 1tb larger - instead of having 2 disks
[08:33] <Dan_> does anyone know of an application which will enable me to stream USB webcam /dev/video or whatever over ssh to another machine? maybe VLC player for CCTV application
[08:33] <ray_> I don't understand how to see what is in lost and found
[08:33] <mick_laptop> Ringwaul: kde has changed over the years, i'm sure you'll think the same thing comparing windows versions
[08:33] <Jordan_U> ray_: sudo ls /lost+found/
[08:33] <Ringwaul> Heh. It's certainly changed more than windows
[08:34] <mick_laptop> Dan_: there are a few apps for home automation and security
[08:34] <Macer> Ringwaul: i think that kde4 is great... kubuntu is awesome
[08:34] <Ringwaul> the KDE I used was somewhat similar to win 7 gui actually
[08:34] <Ringwaul> But that was years ago
[08:34] <ray_> Nothing
[08:34] <mick_laptop> Dan_: check out sf.net and freshmeat.net
[08:34] <iAmerikan> mick_laptop -- I'm liking it more and more
[08:34] <Macer> Ringwaul: although you are correct.. it does seem rather similar to win7
[08:34] <ray_> but I pasted a pastebin
[08:34] <Macer> or the other way around ;)
[08:34] <JamezQ> It's the other way around
[08:34] <Dan_> mick_laptop: thanks its someting simple I'm after command line
[08:34] <Macer> but personally i love kubuntu and kde4.. they have done an outstanding job
[08:34] <mick_laptop> Ringwaul: really? not for me. you can't even open an office doc w/o going "wtf"
[08:35] <JamezQ> KDE people helped microsoft make aero
[08:35] <ray_> which says total 20
[08:35] <mick_laptop> Dan_: sure you can just tunnel vlc over ssh though
[08:35] <Macer> JamezQ: heh. i could see that
[08:35] <ray_> "drwx------  2 root root 16384 2011-04-08 05:09 ."
[08:35] <Macer> i remember ms saying they were going to have a FULL 3D desktop
[08:35] <ray_> "drwxr-xr-x 22 root root  4096 2011-04-08 06:09 .."
[08:35] <rach0> ray_, if you want to browse with a GUI type 'gksudo nautilius' and navigate to lost+found
[08:35] <Macer> then they released vista and it was like.. huh?
[08:35] <mick_laptop> Dan_: do you know how to do that?
[08:36] <Dan_> mick_laptop: I found an article on a blog how to do it but VLC on the remote machine wouldn't recognise /dev/video
[08:36] <Ringwaul> I'm not referring to the modern KDE; when I was comparing it to win7 I meant the version I used years ago in highschool
[08:36] <Macer> ooooh
[08:36] <Dan_> mick_laptop: what I'm trying to work out is what the device name is if its not /dev/video0
[08:36] <Macer> kde3 ;) yeah .. that too was similar to windows at the time
[08:36] <Macer> i thought kde3 was pretty good too
[08:36] <mick_laptop> Dan_: ssh -Y<EMAIL_ADDRESS>cvlc://theip:you_need_to_lookup_the_listening_port
[08:36] <_sd325> I have problems with my ati card: http://pastebin.com/syi6TGsp what can i do? installling this driver: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.42&lang=English
[08:36] <Wamphyri> i'm trying to install a package requiring python-xml
[08:36] <Macer> but kde4.. actually.. kubuntu.. is absolutely awesome :)
[08:36] <Wamphyri> i can't figure out what the dummy package is for it
[08:36] <mick_laptop> or just start vlc and then choose the device from the menu
[08:37] <Dan_> mick_laptop: thanks I'll try that
[08:37] <mick_laptop> instead of cvlc
[08:37] <Macer> it just installed and worked... which going back to the early 90s when i was installing slackware .0000004 or something.. :)
[08:37] <ray_> I did, but there was nothing even when using the hidden option but the thing is I recently used the command line to retrieve bookmarks from the ./mozilla folder which wasn't listed when using the gui
[08:37] <mick_laptop> Dan_: might want to change the cipher to blowfish (it was faster last time i tried)
[08:37] <Macer> installing linux has come a long long way from booting 2 disks then figuring out wth you are suppoesd to do next
[08:37] <mick_laptop> Dan_: -c blowfish
[08:37] <ray_> But that was when I was dealing with bad sectors on these hard drive
[08:37] <Macer> all while using a 9600bps modem
[08:37]  * Macer gets nostalgic
[08:38] <mick_laptop> Macer: yeah, we gained some and we lost some w/ installing
[08:38] <Dan_> mick_laptop: actually one more pain in the arse, is the client machine that the person is using in winxp
[08:38] <Macer> mick_laptop: there have been far more gains than losses
[08:38] <Dan_> mick_laptop: they just wanna be able to connect to http: stream using VLC
[08:38] <Macer> and kubuntu is an amazing distro
[08:38] <mick_laptop> Dan_: you need an x server on windows and an ssh client
[08:39] <Macer> it is one of the few distros where you can take a complete institutionalized windows idiot and throw them on it and they wouldn't notice the difference :)
[08:39] <ray_> So I guess that is it then, so even though it says total 20 then there really isn't anything in there?
[08:39] <iAmerikan> Macer -- I've heard bad things about kubuntu
[08:39] <mick_laptop> Dan_: ok, then just make an rtsp stream
[08:39] <Jordan_U> ray_: What do you mean "says total 20"?
[08:39] <Macer> iAmerikan: well. i've been using it for quite a while and i have had nothing but good things come of it
[08:39] <mick_laptop> Macer: yeah, but installs used to be 5 minutes and i could use the same cd on PPC and x86
[08:39] <ray_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/599142/
[08:39] <Ringwaul> I basically have no idea what I'm doing in KDE 4 so if I could get 3.5 that'd be fantastic
[08:39] <Macer> i made all my boxes kubuntu ;)
[08:39] <iAmerikan> Macer -- what other distros you tried w/ kde?
[08:40] <Macer> gentoo... i used kde4 on debian as well
[08:40] <mick_laptop> iAmerikan: makes no difference really, the version of kde and what you feel comfortable w/ matter most
[08:40] <Macer> kubuntu was the easiest/best .. probably because kde is integrated into it
[08:40] <iAmerikan> mick_laptop -- Oh I know. But I've heard different distros start w/ different packages
[08:41] <mick_laptop> Macer: i found an old gentoo 1.1 alpha cd today while cleaning up - i got very nostalgic :)
[08:41] <iAmerikan> mick_laptop -- and I know open suse is really recommended for starting kde
[08:41] <Macer> the concentration is on kde and not getting whichever WMs going
[08:41] <mick_laptop> iAmerikan: you can configure all of them to act the same way
[08:41] <Dan_> mick_laptop: VLC can create that stream right? I guess the only problem is finding out what the /dev/video device should be
[08:41] <Macer> mick_laptop: omg. i will never forget that first gentoo install.. i think it took 10 hours to figure out what the handbook was talking about
[08:41] <Macer> :)
[08:41] <Macer> after install #500 it got easy tho
[08:41] <mick_laptop> iAmerikan: their package management is a pain and they don't have half the things packaged that debian has
[08:42] <razz1> is there a way to highlight text in  a text file, preferably with color or even change the text to italics?
[08:42] <iAmerikan> mick_laptop -- and I asumed since he went kubuntu instead of any-distro+kde, I assumed it was w/ the assumptionas that distros are --extremely-- different.
[08:42] <Jordan_U> !pm | ray_
[08:42] <mick_laptop> iAmerikan: so it makes it a bit of a PITA (I used to be a network admin that managed 70 people on suse)
[08:42] <Macer> iAmerikan: i would say they are
[08:42] <ray_> I did
[08:42] <Macer> iAmerikan: kubuntu was made with kde in mind
[08:42] <Macer> most other distros you need to add it somehow
[08:42] <iAmerikan> mick_laptop -- I bet. I'd go fedora if it was rpm based. but that's just me. And I haven't tried centos
[08:43] <iAmerikan> Macer -- I know :)
[08:43] <ray_> bye
[08:43] <iAmerikan> Macer -- I'm not denying that whatsoever.
[08:43] <Macer> iAmerikan: ah well.. i tried a few other distros with kde and kubuntu took the cake ;)
[08:43] <rach0> ray_, http://bit.ly/aAOY0B
[08:43] <mick_laptop> iAmerikan: they fit into a few categories: debian based + rpm based + no package management
[08:43] <ray_> I will read it TY
[08:44] <Jordan_U> ray_: I believe that number is some type of measure of "size".
[08:44] <ray_> OK
[08:44] <Macer> i have tried almost every os out there and kubuntu is the one i am sticking with until i die .. as far as a workstation or desktop goes... i will actually buy hardware built around it :)
[08:44] <iAmerikan> Macer -- Good to know :)
[08:44] <ray_> bookmarked
[08:44] <iAmerikan> mick_laptop -- sometimes, .tar.gz is better anyway :)
[08:44] <mick_laptop> iAmerikan: then you have the free vs commercial distros (redhat vs fedora) (debian vs ubuntu) (open suse vs suse enterprise)
[08:45] <iAmerikan> mick_laptop -- I was just asking about the rumor that the kubuntu packages weren't as good as suse.
[08:45] <TuffPoo>  hey guys im trying to get quck synergy to work on my comp its all installed but when i type in ip addresses it dosent move mouses
[08:45] <mick_laptop> iAmerikan: and then you have the ones that were just "left behind" like slackware and gentoo
[08:45] <Macer> i would have said rhel vs centos ;)
[08:45] <mick_laptop> yaya
[08:45] <Macer> heh
[08:45] <mick_laptop> there are too many distros
[08:45] <iAmerikan> mick_laptop -- is debian to ubuntu what redhat is to fedora?
[08:45] <iAmerikan> mick_laptop -- tbh I use arch :)
[08:45] <Macer> yeah.. what was up with that one
[08:45] <Macer> :)
[08:45] <Macer> debian vs ubuntu?
[08:45] <mick_laptop> ubuntu is a derivitive of debian
[08:45] <llutz_> !ot | Macer mick_laptop iAmerikan can you guys please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[08:45] <iAmerikan> I know
[08:45] <TuffPoo> any help? im banging my head over this
[08:46] <ray_> That helps, TY you Jordan_U
[08:46] <mick_laptop> debian is more about being true to the beliefs of the free software foundation while ubuntu has more of a commercial interest (they are ok w/ adding proprietary drivers for intance)
[08:47] <Jordan_U> ray_: You're welcome.
[08:47] <ray_> take care
[08:47] <iAmerikan> sorry llutz_ mick_laptop isn't in there :x
[08:47] <iAmerikan> I agree mick_laptop
[08:47] <mick_laptop> i regress so that I don't get any more crap from the ops :P
[08:48] <iAmerikan> oh
[08:48] <mah454> How i can get permission of output locate command in on command ? for example "locate sample_file | ls -l"
[08:48] <iAmerikan> TuffPoo -- are there any errors visable?
[08:48] <TuffPoo> nope
[08:48] <Macer> :)
[08:48]  * iAmerikan is in #ubuntu-offtopic for Macer and mick_laptop
[08:48] <alkisg> I'm trying to pass 'us,gr' as the keyboard layouts in Xephyr, but the comma is seen as a parameter separator so it doesn't work:
[08:48] <alkisg> $ Xephyr :1 -keybd ephyr,,xkbmodel=evdev,xkbrules=evdev,xkblayout=us,gr,xkboptions=grp:alt_shift_togge -ac -reset -screen 1024x600 -query <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:48] <alkisg> [it gives me this warning]: Kbd option key (gr) of value ((null)) not assigned!
[08:48] <alkisg> Does anyone know the correct syntax?
[08:49] <mick_laptop> mah454: define permission - like rwx, or owner or do you want to check the suid bit...
[08:49] <TuffPoo> im trying to use my current pc... this fedora laptop to control my ubuntu laptop with xfce with quick synergy iAmerikan
[08:49] <llutz_> mah454: ls -l $(locate file)
[08:50] <mick_laptop> Jordan_U: zsync aborts at 88.7% :(
[08:51] <mick_laptop> bad status code 404
[08:51] <iAmerikan> TuffPoo -- is that the default vnc client in ubuntu?
[08:51] <sainadh> fvdfvf
[08:51] <top_ramen> Tuffpoo?
[08:52] <TuffPoo> yea top_ramen ?
[08:52] <top_ramen> from #unrevokedtest?
[08:52] <TuffPoo> yea
[08:52] <top_ramen> lol hiya
[08:52] <TuffPoo> whats up
[08:52] <top_ramen> nothing much just about to throw away my laptop
[08:52] <TuffPoo> iAmerikan: i dont quck synergy is a vnc it just lest 1kb/mouse control many cpus
[08:52]  * mick_laptop watches zsync reread the seed file and crossing fingers
[08:53] <mick_laptop> TuffPoo: what?
[08:53] <TuffPoo> top_ramen: wht?
[08:53] <TuffPoo> top_ramen: why?
[08:53] <mick_laptop> top_ramen: send it to me :)
[08:53] <top_ramen> Im trying to install ubuntu and every time it fails
[08:54] <mick_laptop> yup reason to send it to me
[08:54] <mick_laptop> :D
[08:54] <top_ramen> no mick
[08:55] <mick_laptop> aww, don't throw it away though
[08:55] <iAmerikan> top_ramen -- how?
[08:55] <TuffPoo> mick_laptop: trying to get this ubuntu laptop to work with my fedora one on quick synergy
[08:55] <mick_laptop> top_ramen: actually there are a lot of charities that setup boxes for kids
[08:56] <mick_laptop> what is "quick synergy"? i used synergy - never heard of quick synergy though
[08:56] <top_ramen> ok im using wubi
[08:56] <iAmerikan> ok top_ramen
[08:56] <top_ramen> i think the last error my have been my wifis fault
[08:57] <top_ramen> what installation size should i use?
[08:57] <TuffPoo> mick_laptop: its a gui interface of it my friends had it working on his linux desktops at work just cant get it to work on mine haha
[08:57] <top_ramen> hey Tuff, i wonder if we can get ubuntu on the evo lol
[08:57] <mick_laptop> TuffPoo: easy to setup from the commandline
[08:57] <mick_laptop> trivial really
[08:57] <nikolai_> hey all ~ loving 11.04 - one thing though: upgraded my netbook from 10.10 UNR to 11.04 > everything works fine but i have no shadow on unity panel (installed ccsm and made sure png is enabled) Any other ideas?
[08:58] <TuffPoo> top_ramen: no need to since it basicly runs linux already
[08:58] <top_ramen> iAmerikan, what installation size should i use?
[08:58] <iceroot> nikolai_: #ubuntu+1
[08:58] <TuffPoo> mick_laptop: wana help a brother out with that? haha
[08:58] <nikolai_> thanks
[08:58] <top_ramen> Tuff, oh and what is with the problematic nightlies since #39
[08:59] <iAmerikan> top_ramen -- say again?
[08:59] <tsm_ice9> hey guys, so I threw together a computer with a new mobo (Sandy Bridge...), the onboard graphics work very nicely with Natty but I can't get full resolution with Lucid... however, I have a lot of stuff that I really need Lucid for... any ideas on fixing the resolution on lucid?
[08:59] <mick_laptop> split seemed to have done the trick
[08:59] <top_ramen> iAmerikan, i am using wubi to install ubuntu.... its asking for an installation size what should i choose
[08:59] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: Every time?
[08:59] <mick_laptop> Jordan_U: i'll checkout my issue later and file a bug - is the email shown to users in the ubuntu bts?
[08:59] <charlie_> hello, If I upgrade my Ubuntu from version 10.10 to 11.04, will all the softwares/applications that I install be remove?
[09:00] <TuffPoo> top_ramen: dont know im using rc4 on my phone ive been lazy
[09:00] <mick_laptop> Jordan_U: well, I can transfer the smaller files w/o a problem
[09:00] <Squall5668> no charlie
[09:00] <charlie_> oh, thank you
[09:00] <mick_laptop> so far no fails
[09:00] <top_ramen> Tuff, im still on 37.... lol i havent updated in a while
[09:00] <mick_laptop> awww, crap
[09:01] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: I'm pretty sure but not certain that email is not shown launchpad (by default).
[09:01] <iAmerikan> top_ramen -- do you want to have windows and ubuntu both? or only 1
[09:01] <mick_laptop> box froze
[09:01] <top_ramen> only ubuntu
[09:01] <mick_laptop> at 80% again
[09:01] <mick_laptop> grrr
[09:01] <mick_laptop> seems it isn't a filesize thing
[09:02] <Jordan_U> mick_laptop: What is hosting the file?
[09:02] <mick_laptop> osx
[09:02] <mick_laptop> apache
[09:02] <mick_laptop> 2
[09:03] <Sterist> hello! i just performed a grub2 update via Update Manager and the entire process is stalled without recognizing the final partition (windows 7 loader) can anyone please help?
[09:03] <Sterist> update manager seems kind of unstable (-_-)
[09:03] <ns5> How to modify the thunderbird menu item so that thunderbird always runs in LANG=en_US.UTF8 environment?
[09:04] <top_ramen> iAmerikan
[09:04] <silvery> iMolodec
[09:05]  * mick_laptop tries usb
[09:05] <rzx237> ns5: set the command to: "env LANG=en_US.UTF8 thunderbird"  I guess..
[09:05] <Sterist> hello! i just performed a grub2 update via Update Manager and the entire process is stalled without recognizing the final partition (windows 7 loader) can anyone please help?
[09:05] <iAmerikan> top_ramen --
[09:07] <mick_laptop> ns5: set your locale properly
[09:07] <ns5> my locale should be zh_CN.UTF8, but I prefer thunderbird to run in a pure english env
[09:08] <cmy1st> 안녕하세요
[09:08] <almoxarife> Sterist: tried updating via terminal?
[09:08] <mick_laptop> ns5: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Change_Default_Mozilla_Language
[09:08] <cmy1st> 안녕하세요
[09:09] <mick_laptop> i18n/l10n can be a pain
[09:09] <Sterist> almoxarife: isn't it too late for that? the grub files are already in-use by the stalled Update Manager
[09:10] <almoxarife> Sterist: no, run the update-grub , see if you get the results you are expecting
[09:10] <Sterist> sudo necessary for that?
[09:10] <almoxarife> Sterist: yeap
[09:12] <Sterist> almoxarife: worked but update manager is still stalled. should i be concerned? (x_x)
[09:12] <mick_laptop> Sterist: for how long?
[09:12] <eraggo> how i connect from win7 (without admin priviledges) to ubuntu as remote desktop?
[09:12] <mick_laptop> how big was the update??
[09:13] <Sterist> mick_laptop: ever since the grub2 update's turn came around
[09:13] <mick_laptop> eraggo: you have admin privs on the ubuntu box?
[09:13] <eraggo> yer
[09:13] <mick_laptop> Sterist: took a while on my box
[09:13] <silvery> Hi, please help me to find information on "language packs". I want to write my own and don't not sure where from I should start...
[09:13] <mick_laptop> eraggo: ok, define "remote desktop" - do you want rdp or just anything to manage it remotely?
[09:13] <Squall5668> eraggo: you need to download VNC, then from System in gnome, open your connections
[09:14] <Squall5668> download vnc, in windows i mean
[09:14] <Sterist> mick_laptop: i have a CPU monitor and i watched it go idle once it hit the windows 7 loader (in the +details drop-down)
[09:14] <almoxarife> Sterist: by update you are not talking 'upgrade'?
[09:14] <mick_laptop> eraggo: you have a number of choices, vnc, nx, x11 forwarding over ssh
[09:14] <mokang> HI
[09:14] <Sterist> almoxarife: i'm pretty sure it's just an update
[09:14] <eraggo> mick_laptop: nx?
[09:15] <mokang> ?
[09:15] <silvery> wrong door, sorry
[09:15] <mick_laptop> eraggo: https://code.google.com/p/neatx/
[09:15] <eraggo> and how i forward x11 over ssh... it is just for 1 program..
[09:15] <Sterist> almoxarife: it wasn't considered a "proposed update" so that pretty much elimitates upgrades
[09:15] <almoxarife> Sterist: here is what I think you will have in  the worse case scenario, broken pckgs, I assume the update did not include kernel images?
[09:15] <Ringwaul> So am I weird for thinking Ubuntu looks "too clean"? Like mac
[09:15] <mick_laptop> eraggo: ssh -Y<EMAIL_ADDRESS>xeyes
[09:15] <Ringwaul> Everything is so hideously clean
[09:16] <JamezQ> Ringwaul: Your one of the masses
[09:16] <mick_laptop> Ringwaul: looks like a designer's desktop, right?
[09:16] <Ringwaul> yeah :/
[09:16] <eraggo> mick_laptop: and i can make that with putty?
[09:16] <mick_laptop> install fluxbox and then you'll feel right at home
[09:17] <mick_laptop> eraggo: no, you need an x server for windows for taht to work
[09:17] <eraggo> oh... and ofcourse i need to install it.....
[09:17] <mick_laptop> you can go w/ cygwin (install ssh-client and x windows) or d/l another open source x windows server for wndows
[09:17] <Sterist> almoxarife: i did a New Install of the latest Kernel Image and when i was just about to click Restart i saw the grub2 updates available and hit install. (all of this via Update Manager)
[09:18] <Sterist> almoxarife: either way that shouldn
[09:18] <Sterist> almoxarife: cause this kind of problem
[09:18] <mick_laptop> why has this turned into ##windows ಠ_ಠ
[09:19] <almoxarife> Sterist: when you manually updated-grub, did you see win7 shown as you expected to see?
[09:19] <Sterist> almoxarife: yesser (n_n)
[09:20] <eraggo> mick_laptop: so there is no way to make these without admin privs. cygwin needs to be installed :/ no standalones exist?
[09:20] <Sterist> almoxarife: just reboot and hope for best?
[09:20] <almoxarife> Sterist: I would be brave then, reboot, then cleanup what ever might have been broken in the process, synaptic will show broken packages
[09:20] <mick_laptop> there might be a portable version or something
[09:20] <eraggo> looking for it
[09:20] <mick_laptop> why not just boot into a live cd at this point? or just get admin privs
[09:21] <Sterist> almoxarife: i'll report back if my PC lives
[09:21] <mick_laptop> i get annoyed if i don't have admin privs
[09:22] <rudak> ^^
[09:22] <almoxarife> Sterist: I have faith :)
[09:22] <mick_laptop> as a network admin, i think i'm entitled
[09:22] <ubuntunoob> hello
[09:23] <ubuntunoob> anyone know how i can hide username in the terminal?
[09:23] <YankDownUnder> You can change the way the bash prompt displays...
[09:23] <Sterist> almoxarife: i have not rebooted but it appears Update Manager's install window has finished / closed on it's own.
[09:23] <Sterist> now for the reboot.
[09:23] <qin> ubuntunoob: PS1, that what you want to change in your .bashrc
[09:24] <ubuntunoob> I just want to hide the username, i did it before, but i forgot how
[09:24] <stimpie> ubuntunoob: see http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-unix-bash-shell-setup-prompt.html
[09:24] <josephseraos> hi everybody, I'm trying to connect my network using command line, with iwconfig, but it's not working. I have a network called "J-dlink", using a password 7fmm3w4...7hg48. So, when I do this command: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid J-dlink key s:7fmm....48   iwconfig returns fallowing: Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
[09:24] <josephseraos>     SET failed on device eth1 ; Invalid argument. Do you know what does it mean? Thanks
[09:26] <mick_laptop> josephseraos: special characters that need to be escaped perhaps? (in your pw) -- i'm guessing
[09:27] <ii> hello
[09:27] <Sterist> almoxarife: all is well.
[09:27] <almoxarife> Sterist: cool
[09:27] <netkillers> so cold
[09:28] <Sterist> almoxarife: is there a command to check for broken packages?
[09:28] <o2oo> hello
[09:29] <quiescens> josephseraos: wpa encryption uses wpa_supplicant and is not configured using iwconfig
[09:29] <o2oo> I have bought acer 522 netbook and install ubuntu
[09:29] <almoxarife> Sterist: check in synaptic
[09:29] <o2oo> hello, I have bought acer 522 netbook and install ubuntu
[09:29] <netkillers> it is easy to install ubuntu maybe
[09:29] <o2oo> but the video driver give a water mark tells "hardware not supported
[09:30] <josephseraos> mick_laptop, I put ... only to explain that exists many others chars. If I put any password, iwconfig returns that message
[09:30] <o2oo> but the video driver give a water mark tells "hardware not supported" at the right-bottom
[09:30] <Sterist> almoxarife: once again all is well. thanks for your help :)
[09:30] <netkillers> change one video driver may solve the problem.
[09:32] <mick_laptop> josephseraos: i'm saying... what if you don't have a pw
[09:33] <razz1> I am copying ubuntu partitions to another disk using clonezilla, do i need to edit /etc/fstab or will it automatically add the new partitions?
[09:33] <osbeix> hi folks is there any native English speaking person here I need some help
[09:34] <YankDownUnder> Depends on yer perspective of "native" eh?
[09:34] <Squall5668> some of us are not that bad osbeix, you are being mean :)
[09:34] <osbeix> lets say he is from English speaking country
[09:34] <qin> window new hidden;window name web;exec -name elinks -nosh -interactive -window elinks $-
[09:34] <qin> hm, sorry
[09:34] <YankDownUnder> Does Australia qualify as an English speaking country?
[09:34] <osbeix> YankDownUnder: Yes Sir
[09:35] <rumpe1> lol... how about liverpool? ;)
[09:35] <osbeix> rumpe1: too :D
[09:35] <almoxarife> YankDownUnder: I am not sure it qualifies as native
[09:35] <YankDownUnder> Liverpool - regardless of geographic location, is excluded from this.
[09:36] <osbeix> it may sound stupid but I need to know...is "joint undertaking" useful in English and when you hear this phrase can you say it equals the phrase " joint venture"
[09:36] <mick_laptop> hmmm, this seems to be really "fragile"
[09:36] <YankDownUnder> "Joint Undertaking" and "Joint Venture" would be legalistic terms that can mean different things.
[09:37] <mick_laptop> i was able to get around the ethernet issue (crashing my box) -- now i'm doing some work on an iso and it is crashing again
[09:37] <almoxarife> osbeix: joint venture= business , join undertaking= social contract, ubuntu linguistics dept told me that
[09:37] <mick_laptop> anytime when i deal w/ any larger sets of data it seems to hang
[09:38] <botcity> josephseraos: if your using ubuntu10.10 you can use nmcli if your trying to configure manually without nmcli you have to stop network manager as it takes over!
[09:38] <YankDownUnder> Hmmm...right...well, when ya start talkin "Legalese" I usually leave the room.
[09:38] <osbeix> almoxarife: thank you
[09:38] <osbeix> YankDownUnder: thank you too no more questions
[09:39] <almoxarife> osbeix: please don't take that as knowledge, I don't know the answer to your question
[09:42] <razz1> I am copying ubuntu partitions to another disk using clonezilla, do i need to edit /etc/fstab or will it automatically add the new partitions? any suggestions
[09:42] <epzil0n> <3 Ubuntu 11.04 the beta 2 workes great, unity and the launcher workes sp much better then before.. good job! =)
[09:42] <iceroot> epzil0n: #ubuntu+1
[09:42] <Squall5668> razz1: im quite sure a grub-update will sufice
[09:43] <epzil0n> with what Squall5668?
[09:44] <Squall5668> chroot to it, and run a grub-update, still im not too sure on that one
[09:45] <razz1> Squall5668: grup-update is after booting in to ubuntu, I want to know if it will boot in the first place
[09:45] <Squall5668> that's why i said chroot to it, use a liveCD
[09:46] <mick_laptop> so my box is frozen (unresponsive to even the mouse) -- but my fan is really busy, do i wait?
[09:46] <jnlsnl_> 2 days!!!
[09:47] <epzil0n> what is your issue razz1?
[09:47] <razz1> epzil0n: I am copying ubuntu partitions to another disk using clonezilla, do i need to edit /etc/fstab or will it automatically add the new partitions?
[09:49] <epzil0n> Probably it will contain entrys from your previous hdd/boot order so you will have to update it and in the worst case even do a grub recovery through a live-cd
[09:51] <botcity> !home
[09:57] <dpy> hi guys
[09:58] <dpy> does anyone know if there is a debian/ubuntu package somewhere that provides iptables as a service?
[09:58] <dpy> I'd like to be able to do service iptables stop/start
[09:59] <GeissT> dpy, give this a go: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1161445
[10:01] <josephseraos> botcity, I'm using 10.04
[10:02] <josephseraos> mick_laptop, I have a pw
[10:02] <josephseraos> mick_laptop, And it doesn't work if a put the pw int key param
[10:02] <traxnul> Can Install grub2 on windows partition (NTFS) ? I guess not. I want to have a boot system with Windows7 as main OS and many linuxes that I would intall / uninstall over time. Therefore I don't want grub on linux partition... Third option how bad is it to make separate grub2 part. ?
[10:03] <Squall5668> you can
[10:03] <newubuntu> hey guys
[10:03] <newubuntu> !
[10:03] <maedox> Anyone here running an IRC server? I want to set up a private one at work and I'm wondering what's the ircd of choice? There seems to be a bunch to choose from in the repos.
[10:03] <newubuntu> i am new to ubuntu and really need some advice
[10:03] <newubuntu> can anyone help me?
[10:03] <newubuntu> pl private chat me if someone can help me
[10:04] <Squall5668> newubuntu: you can ask here, so more ppl can help you
[10:04] <newubuntu> k, i juz installed ubuntu on my hdd partion E
[10:04] <newubuntu> i have windows XP installed on C
[10:05] <newubuntu> i wanna know if its dangerous for the data(movies, etc) in E
[10:05] <newubuntu> will they get corrupted...coz ubuntu is installed in that drive
[10:05] <keinyoung> how to change apt-get sources
[10:05] <GeissT> If you install ubuntu on that drive AFTER the movies they will be removed.
[10:05] <keinyoung> for ubuntu
[10:05] <Squall5668> newubuntu: well, if the ubuntu partition is not NTFS (and it shouldn't be) XP won't even be able to see it, much less harm it
[10:06] <mick_laptop> josephseraos: tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo ?
[10:06] <newubuntu> but ubuntu didnt require formatting that drive prior to installation
[10:06] <Squall5668> the E partition was empty right?
[10:06] <newubuntu> nope
[10:07] <rumpe1> newubuntu, system changes are always with some risk ... always do backups if you need your data
[10:07] <atlef> newubuntu, did you use wubi
[10:07] <newubuntu> filled with a lot of movies
[10:07] <atlef> 1wubi
[10:07] <newubuntu> i didnt use wibi
[10:07] <newubuntu> i downloaded the desktop version 10.10 iso file
[10:07] <newubuntu> used daemon tools on windows to virtually mount that iso and installed from there
[10:07] <Squall5668> so you did use wubi
[10:07] <newubuntu> i guess so...
[10:08] <lwizardl> wubi = windows based installer for Ubuntu
[10:08] <dpy> lol!
[10:08] <dpy> I do ufw enable, and I get like 100 iptable rules by default..
[10:08] <Squall5668> sorry, i can't really help, never used it myself
[10:08] <newubuntu> okay okay i used wubi
[10:08] <newubuntu> i juz wanna know if there's a risk in keeping two OSs on a single HDD
[10:09] <atlef> newubuntu, then all your files should be ok as ubuntu is installed as a program
[10:09] <newubuntu> i dont want windows to get ruined
[10:09] <dpy> dpy> lol!
 I do ufw enable, and I get like 100 iptable rules by default..
[10:09] <dpy> and it totally disables all incoming traffic
[10:09] <newubuntu> yes ubuntu IS installed as a program but...
[10:09] <dpy> first impression of UFW: not so uncomplicated, not convinced to use it...
[10:10] <newubuntu> one of my frns told me something like ubuntu creates 2 additional partitions for different purposes
[10:10] <newubuntu> so in total 3 partitions
[10:10] <newubuntu> i juz dont wanna ruin my data in the drive in which i installed ubuntu
[10:10] <atlef> newubuntu, not when you use wubi
[10:11] <Squall5668> he meant the linux swap, its installed as a file too in wubi
[10:11] <Squall5668> its in c:\ubuntu\disks\swap.disk (or E in your case)
[10:12] <newubuntu> okay so NOTHING is there regarding ubuntu in the C drive(in which ubuntu is NOT installed_) right?
[10:12] <abhinav> hi .. would this be a good place to ask questions regarding the firefox-4 PPA for ubuntu ?
[10:13] <maniakss> hello
[10:13] <newubuntu> @abhinav: dunno...
[10:13] <Ja23> Helllo!!! I JUST installed Ubuntu 11.04 but I still have the GNOME shell, not Unity... why might this be?
[10:13] <abhinav> I installed firefox-4 PPA (the official one as far as I can see) and the only binary I get is firefox-trunk. A few days back it was firefox4
[10:13] <abhinav> wondering if something is broken ?
[10:14] <Squall5668> abhinav: i think that's only in 11.04 sto try #ubuntu-devel
[10:14] <maniakss> Is there any drivers to connect my Nokia with Ubuntu? I mean copying files to phone
[10:14] <Ja23> squall5668: Is that channel for 11.04 questions?
[10:14] <abhinav> Squall5668: ok.. thanks !
[10:15] <Squall5668> its for development releases
[10:15] <abhinav> Squall5668: should I be using #ubuntu+1 instead ? or #ubuntu-devel
[10:15] <Squall5668> oh crap :P
[10:15] <maniakss> Okay, i connect it with Mass Storage
[10:15] <gigasoft> ssh="/etc/mercurial/hgrc.d/" - ssh -i "/home/emir/Private/EmirRepositorijum/emir_private_key_putty.ppk"
[10:17] <maniakss>  /j #ubuntu-pl
[10:17] <Ja23> I just installed 11.04, but my shell is still GNOME not Unity... how can I change this?
[10:17] <atlef> !natty | Ja23
[10:18] <Ja23> Ohh, K
[10:18] <ArchangelSe7en> Ja23, log out .. change the DE from the dropdown menu and login
[10:18] <Ja23> ArchangelSe7en I did try that..
[10:19] <ArchangelSe7en> and ..
[10:19] <ArchangelSe7en> actually
[10:19] <user82> Ja23, no 3d hardware/driver?
[10:19] <ArchangelSe7en> atlef, 's suggestion is a good one
[10:19] <user82> unity2d is not yet done
[10:19] <Ja23> user82: yes exactly! I had an issue with that, but then I reinstalled the proprietary drivers, and I thought it would be fine
[10:19] <josephseraos> mick_laptop, Thanks, I didn't find it. But I'll try now
[10:20] <user82> well best to follow atlefs hint...but might be a reason
[10:21] <Ja23> user82: yeah, I'll try out that other channel
[10:21] <josephseraos> mick_laptop, I can connect using network-manager gui in GNOME, but I'm just studying a way to connect using only command line, because I entered in a Linux Group in my University course
[10:21] <anyingisye> hey watsup
[10:22] <ArchangelSe7en> nothin ..
[10:22] <ArchangelSe7en> you need help ?
[10:22] <anyingisye> hey amine watsup??
[10:23] <anyingisye> hey ksinkar
[10:25] <anyingisye> logout
[10:25] <ArchangelSe7en> /quit
[10:26] <snoeman> I am having trouble with samba. Where do I associate ip addresses with netbios names
[10:27] <chegibari> Hello
[10:27] <dpy> grrrr UFW #$##$!#$!#$
[10:27] <ArchangelSe7en> hey
[10:27] <user82> ArchangelSe7en, howd you write /quit withotu executing it?
[10:27] <chegibari> I managed to download all packages I need to install with the wget script. Now I'm having troubles actually installing them
[10:27] <ArchangelSe7en> user82, magic
[10:27] <ArchangelSe7en> :P
[10:27] <ArchangelSe7en> user82, //quit
[10:28] <ArchangelSe7en> we use that trick to show the n00bs how to do /exec and such
[10:28] <chegibari> Seems that there is no way to tell apt to "install these packages"
[10:28] <user82> ah ok..reminds me the c printf stuff :P
[10:28] <iceroot> ArchangelSe7en: we dont need the word "n00bs" here
[10:28] <user82> didnt know that
[10:28] <dpy> 'ufw disable' should do iptables -X  (as in: clean up the mess you create)
[10:28] <llutz_> chegibari: sudo dpkg file.deb
[10:28] <numberto> I just installed unity and not sure how to use it. In the dash when I type no programs appear to be showing
[10:29] <llutz_> chegibari: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[10:29] <root__> hello anyone
[10:29] <numberto> Is there anything like launcher in gnome?
[10:29] <ArchangelSe7en> iceroot, no insult intended
[10:29] <root__> can someone help me here
[10:29] <KM0201> !rootirc | root__
[10:29] <chegibari> llutz:  dpkg... thanks! I didn't find it with man
[10:29] <ArchangelSe7en> chegibari, Deb packages ?
[10:29] <chegibari> llutz. I didn't use linux in a while
[10:30] <chegibari> ArchangelSe7en: yes
[10:30] <KM0201> root__, just ask your question, if someone can help, they will.
[10:30] <ArchangelSe7en> k well like llutz said .. and you can also use gedebi
[10:30] <root__> anyone can help me use linux
[10:31] <ArchangelSe7en> root__, define "use"
[10:31] <chegibari> ArchangelSe7en: Ok. I'll check gedebi too. Hoping it's installed
[10:31] <KM0201> !anyone | root__ now quit being annoying
[10:31] <chegibari> llutz and ArchangelSe7en: thanks to both of you
[10:31] <ArchangelSe7en> sure ^^
[10:32] <thanassssss> hello
[10:32] <ArchangelSe7en> root__, Google is your bud .. you ask it anything and I'm sure he would have an answer
[10:33] <ArchangelSe7en> thanassssss, hey
[10:33] <thanassssss> i want some help plz
[10:33] <ArchangelSe7en> sure
[10:33] <ArchangelSe7en> ask away
[10:33] <root__> ok.. thnx 4 the tips
[10:33] <marekw2143> lsusb shows among other lines the following line: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 045e:00f7 Microsoft Corp. LifeCam VX-1000.
[10:33] <ArchangelSe7en> you're welcome root__
[10:33] <root__> but its better if get an assistnt
[10:33] <headnotfound> hey there
[10:33] <llutz_> !manual | root__
[10:34] <marekw2143> but I can't use webcam - cheese shows "no camera found" info
[10:34] <dpy> GeissT: if somebody happens to ask about iptables on start up, could you please give 'm this link: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2009/02/28/standard-process-for-restoring-iptables-at-boot/    (It's the minimalist approach, while UFW is the maximalist/complicated approach (unlike its name))
[10:34] <ArchangelSe7en> marekw2143, try V4lv2
[10:34] <root__> im using backtrack
[10:34] <llutz_> !backtrack | root
[10:34] <KM0201> marekw2143, just looking at google hits on that device, you're not the only one.;
[10:34] <marekw2143> and lsmod|grep gspca shows: http://pastebin.com/hbcZCES4
[10:35] <ArchangelSe7en> thanassssss, I do not help in private .. please ask here
[10:35] <greentea> why don't you help in private
[10:35] <snoeman> How do I link netbios names with ip addresses in order to samba?
[10:35] <atlef> !backtrack | root__
[10:36] <KM0201> snoeman, better late than never.
[10:36] <thanassssss> i want to recover data in my /home
[10:36] <marekw2143> KM0201: but some time ago I nstalled that
[10:36] <marekw2143> ArchangelSe7en: what's V4lv2?
[10:36] <ArchangelSe7en> greentea, because that doesnt help ppl to learn stuff
[10:36] <GeissT> dpy: sure mate, ill copy and paste that.
[10:36] <dpy> tnx :)
[10:36] <KM0201> marekw2143, what do you mean "sometime ago you installed that".. i'm not sure how thats relevant to it working in linux or not.
[10:36] <GeissT> Are you expecting someone to come in?
[10:37] <ArchangelSe7en> marekw2143, Alt F2 "gstreamer-properties" enter / video tab / v4lv2 as your plug in
[10:37] <greentea> :D
[10:37] <snoeman> KM8201 I don't understand
[10:37] <KM0201> snoeman, smoeone had already triggered that for root__ ... i get the feeling he thinks he's a hacker because he figured out how to put an ISO on a cd.
[10:37] <dpy> GeissT: nah, it was just more of a statement
[10:37] <KM0201> !tab | snoeman and this might help you.. :)
[10:38] <dpy> GeissT: iptables is much cleaner than UFW imho
[10:38] <marekw2143> KM0201: I installed it once and i worked, now I'm working on another ubuntu installation, but don't remember how to install LIfeCam webcam
[10:38] <llutz_> KM0201: it wasn't snoeman triggering it
[10:38] <dpy> UFW is like the Windows approach  (I don't know how it works, but I expect it to work)
[10:38] <ross_> how do you surf the web "anonymously"? there's a program called identitycloaker - is that a linux equivalent of it?
[10:38] <KM0201> marekw2143, should've made better notes.. like i said, firing up google, shows a lot of people complaining about that device.
[10:38] <KM0201> llutz, sure it was.
[10:38] <dpy> iptables is like: I understand how it works, why it works and I want to use it
[10:38] <landingonwater> cant access or copy my encrypted home folder from live cd. i have the passphrase though. tried online guide. doesnt work. what can i do
[10:38] <ArchangelSe7en> ross_, use a proxy
[10:38] <thanassssss> how can i recover my lost data?
[10:38] <GeissT> dpy: Ive never had to delve into them yet, but im sure I might.
[10:38] <abountu1> i installed video chat for google on my ubuntu, and when I try to chat he other person can't hear me
[10:38] <marekw2143> KM0201: yeah, I bought it because it was cheap and offering good parameters
[10:38] <ross_> archangelse7ven how?
[10:39] <KM0201> oh woops, no it wasn't.. :)
[10:39] <abountu1> how can I test my microphone
[10:39] <ArchangelSe7en> thanassssss, google that
[10:39] <dpy> GeissT: but thanks anyway
[10:39] <GeissT> Thats fine. :)
[10:39] <ArchangelSe7en> ross_, google it .. you'll see
[10:39] <thanassssss> in btrfs
[10:39] <landingonwater> I cant boot my ubuntu because win7 mbr took over
[10:39] <KM0201> marekw2143, ok.. i don't know why that has any relevance to it working w/ Ubuntu..
[10:39] <maxylopes> Hello guys, I have Joystick, but I dont have drivers for ubuntu, when i try to install jscalibrator it writes Dependency is not satisfiable: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) what to do?
[10:39] <marekw2143> ArchangelSe7en: after choosing V4lv2 and klicking "Test" following message box is shown: "Video for Linux 2 (v4l2): Could not open device '/dev/video0' for reading and writing."
[10:39] <ross_> any other suggestions?
[10:39] <ArchangelSe7en> landingonwater, boot a live CD and repair GRUB2
[10:40] <KM0201> !grub2 | landingonwater see the part about restoring grub from the live cd.
[10:40] <snoeman> I ask again. How do I link netbios names with ip addresses.
[10:41] <ross_> archangelse7en what do you think of tor?
[10:41] <marekw2143> ArchangelSe7en: and when runnign gstreamer-properties as root, and then clicking "test" for tesiting V4lv2 driver, message box with following text is shown: "Video for Linux 2 (v4l2): Error getting capabilities for device '/dev/video0': It isn't a v4l2 driver. Check if it is a v4l1 driver."
[10:41] <maxylopes> Hello guys, I have Joystick, but I dont have drivers for ubuntu, when i try to install jscalibrator it writes Dependency is not satisfiable: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) what to do?
[10:41] <Squall5668> install dependency
[10:41] <ArchangelSe7en> why would you run it as root .. thats just pointless
[10:41] <ArchangelSe7en> and bad practice ..
[10:42] <marekw2143> ArchangelSe7en: I know
[10:42] <ArchangelSe7en> really ? :)
[10:42] <atlef> maxylopes, did you install the program joystick
[10:42] <KM0201> marekw2143, if you hit up google, the first or 2nd link has that device marked "solved".. i'm not reading all 7 pages though
[10:42] <maxylopes> and what next?
[10:42] <ArchangelSe7en> marekw2143, what KM0201 said
[10:43] <ArchangelSe7en> Google is your best friend
[10:43] <atlef> maxylopes, open a terminal and type jscal -c /dev/input/js0
[10:44] <maxylopes> what they mean to move axis0 to min position?
[10:44] <maxylopes> max position
[10:45] <Squall5668> left is usually min, and right is max
[10:49] <atlef> maxylopes, it lets you calibrate your joystick
[10:49] <maxylopes> da ladno?
[10:50] <maxylopes> no i am asking HOW To
[10:50] <maxylopes> idk where is max position
[10:50] <maxylopes> min pos
[10:50] <xeviox> hi guys, I tried to setup kerberos authentication (against a windows ad) now my sudo doesn't ask for the password anymore, any idea what's wrong with it?
[10:50] <maxylopes> axis0 axis1
[10:51] <atlef> maxagaz, i have no idea, just know about the program
[10:51] <atlef> maxylopes, , i have no idea, just know about the program
[10:51] <maxylopes> ok thanks
[10:52] <Squall5668> xeviox, just saying but did you try sudo -k?
[10:53] <xeviox> Squall5668: I didn't try
[10:53] <Squall5668> try that, then sudo again to see if it asks for a pass
[10:54] <xeviox> Squall5668: yes it does ?!?
[10:54] <xeviox> Squall5668: the weird thing is that it didn't ask after a complete restart
[10:54] <sveinse> does it exist a visual tool for upstart?
[10:55] <Squall5668> sveinse, i think its called BUM (boot up manager)
[10:55] <xeviox> Squall5668: there is another problem using "sudo" now asks me two times for "Password:" but not for "[sudo] password for user:"
[10:56] <xeviox> Squall5668: maybe that has something to do with kerberos and PAM authentication?
[10:56] <WindowNumOne> Hey everyone
[10:56] <newubuntu> anyone know of a good ball and paddle game for ubuntu
[10:56] <ArchangelSe7en> hey
[10:56] <Squall5668> maybe it does, i wouldn't know cause i haven't tried it ever :)
[10:56] <newubuntu> kinda like DX Ball?
[10:56] <xeviox> Squall5668: damn, it asks me twice on logon, too :(
[10:56] <erUSUL> sveinse: no that i know of
[10:57] <xeviox> Squall5668: seems like something went wrong -_-
[10:57] <WindowNumOne> I had a toothache and it kept me up all day today
[10:58] <WindowNumOne> I swear I used a whole tube of oragel and it didn't do jack
[10:58] <atlef> newubuntu, Briquolo is one
[10:58] <sipior> WindowNumOne: try #dentistry
[10:58] <newubuntu> okay downloading briquolo now
[10:59] <WindowNumOne> sipor here you are funny
[10:59] <WindowNumOne> i know like anyone supposed to care at all :(
[11:00] <atlef> newubuntu, sdl-ball is another
[11:00] <Jackneill> hi
[11:00] <Jackneill> how can i change my IP address, if i have dynamic one, and i use router?
[11:00] <newubuntu> @atlef: dont u mention sdl-ball
[11:01] <newubuntu> i installed and ran it about 15 mins ago
[11:01] <newubuntu> it caused my ubuntu to FREEZE!
[11:01] <elky> Jackneill, why?
[11:01] <YankDownUnder> Jackneill, You can edit the /etc/network/interfaces file and set it up as you so desire.
[11:01] <atlef> newubuntu, ok, sorry it showed up in synaptic
[11:01] <Jackneill> cause this is my problem
[11:01] <newubuntu> hey what exactly is synaptic?
[11:01] <newubuntu> :p im new, like my username says
[11:02] <Squall5668> synaptic package manager, its in System
[11:02] <elky> newubuntu, it's like add/remove programs
[11:02] <newubuntu> yeah i know
[11:02] <newubuntu> okay okay
[11:02] <newubuntu> i cant open it now coz some games are installing
[11:02] <Jackneill> auto lo
[11:02] <Jackneill> iface lo inet loopback
[11:02] <Jackneill> this is my interfaces file
[11:02] <Jackneill> what can i edit in that file?
[11:04] <YankDownUnder> Jackneill, You can see how I've done one here: http://pastebin.ca/2050812
[11:04] <Houssem> Hello
[11:05] <atlef> Jackneill, you can also right-click the network icon in your taskbar and edit from there
[11:05] <jkb11> hi people!
[11:05] <jkb11> :-)
[11:05] <andy12345> hi, can I know in which files (I mean all the files in which) proxy settings are stored? ubuntu 10.10 64 bit
[11:05] <Houssem> Hi jkbl1
[11:06] <Jackneill> atlef, IPv4 settings?
[11:06] <jkb11> hey Houssem
[11:06] <Jackneill> manual?
[11:06] <jkb11> wow ubuntu huh? :) man it's been ages since last time i've been here
[11:06] <atlef> Jackneill, yes, if you need to change ip address
[11:08] <Jackneill> and can i add random one? is it ok?
[11:08] <jkb11> anyone used unity?
[11:08] <andy12345> hi, can I know in which files (I mean all the files in which) proxy settings are stored? ubuntu 10.10 64 bit
[11:09] <jkb11> andy12345, have you tried gconf-editor?
[11:10] <jmvelasco> hello, I have these packages installed: libapache2-mod-php5, php5, php5-common, php5-mcrypt and php5-mysql, the current verion is 5.2.6 and I need to hold php <5.3 due to compabitily issues with other system. I'd like to upgrade my current system, so i am wondering if I have to hold all these packages or just one or some, in that case which ones ? thanks for your comments
[11:10] <andy12345> jkbill, nope?? whats that? (looks in man...)
[11:10] <jmvelasco> PHP Version 5.2.6-3ubuntu4.6 <-- current phpinfo() information
[11:11] <jmvelasco> please anybody could give me the point ?
[11:11] <jmvelasco> i have ubuntu-jaunty but i'd like to upgrade it, holding php vresion < 5.3
[11:11] <jmvelasco> please, which packages i'll need to hold ?¿
[11:12] <jmvelasco> does php5 hold maintain dependencies ?¿
[11:12] <GeissT> Yes
[11:12] <jmvelasco> GeissT, this is for me ?
[11:12] <jmvelasco> so i just need to hold php5 package ?
[11:13] <andy12345> jkbill, I have removed the proxy from everywhere, noproxy found in gconf editor also, I can use mozilla but when in terminal i type sudo apt-get update, its tries to connect to my old proxy, so I think somewhere the thing is not yet removed
[11:14] <jkb11> andy12345, open up a new gnome terminal and try the update again.
[11:14] <llutz_> andy12345: checked configs in /etc/apt?
[11:15] <andy12345> jkbill, still trying ot connect to old proxy
[11:15] <andy12345> lultz_, you mean apt.conf? yeah its blank
[11:15] <GeissT> jmvelasco, are you installing php or modifying ?
[11:16] <jmvelasco> i have installed yet, i want to upgrade ubuntu version from jaunty to the lat one, but need to hold php vresion under 5.3
[11:16] <Jackneill> hm
[11:16] <GeissT> Ah right, I dont have much of an idea with that mate.
[11:16] <GeissT> Sorry.
[11:16] <jmvelasco> libapache2-mod-php5, php5, php5-common, php5-mcrypt and php5-mysql <-- GeissT these are the packages i have installed
[11:17] <jmvelasco> no problem GeissT, i wonder if some buddy around could help me with this
[11:17] <jmvelasco> anyone ?
[11:17] <GeissT> If nobody here can help jump on the forums mate.
[11:17] <jmvelasco> this is an idea but i'd like to do it now :)
[11:18] <jmvelasco> that's why I came here :)
[11:18] <botcity> !pinning | jmvelasco
[11:18] <GeissT> Haha, thats cool. There are only a few people here, most are idling :D
[11:19] <andy12345> lultz_, you mean apt.conf? yeah its blank
[11:19] <andy12345> hi all , can I know in which files (I mean all the files in which) proxy settings are stored? ubuntu 10.10 64 bit
[11:19] <jmvelasco> thanks so much to this bot :)
[11:20] <botcity> jmvelasco:  also if you have synaptic manager you can lock a package through there.
[11:20] <andy12345> hi all , I have removed the proxy from everywhere, noproxy found in gconf editor also, I can use mozilla but when in terminal i type sudo apt-get update, its tries to connect to my old proxy, so I think somewhere the thing is not yet removed
[11:20] <thanassssss> how can i recover my lost data in btrfs?
[11:20] <lionzw> good day
[11:20] <jmvelasco> botcity, but i just need to hold php5 or all the installed packages ? this is my main question
[11:20] <keinyoung> hello all
[11:21] <JetBoyJetGirl> hi
[11:21] <sipior> thanassssss: depends on how you lost it, i would imagine.
[11:21] <jmvelasco> botcity, I mean, holding php5 will maintain dependencies ?
[11:21] <GeissT> Hey, just a quick question, using the upgrade method from the update manager will keep my files?
[11:21] <keinyoung> i have a xchat
[11:21] <lionzw> yes
[11:22] <llutz_> andy12345: "echo $http_proxy"  is empty?
[11:22] <Squall5668> jmvelasco: most likely, just confirm it before typing "Y" in apt-get or "Ok" in synaptic
[11:22] <GeissT> lionzw, that was aimed at me?
[11:22] <lionzw> GeissT , yes, but you should always keep a backup script running anyway
[11:22] <keinyoung> but i don't know how to use it ?
[11:22] <andy12345> llutz_, yep
[11:23] <GeissT> Thanks lionzw.
[11:23] <jarhed> eveving all
[11:23] <jmvelasco> Squall5668, I can't follow you, could you clarify it ?
[11:23] <jmvelasco> maybe is 'cos English is not my tongue
[11:23] <jkb11> hi jarhed
[11:24] <llutz_> andy12345: grep -ri "ip-or-name-of-your-old-proxy" /etc/* ~/*
[11:24] <jarhed> I was wondering if anyone knows if it's possible to use ffmpeg to convert an AVI to FLV on the fly. I.E. pipe the conversion straight to a flash player as it's happening?
[11:24] <Squall5668> if you hold a package, packages that depend on it won't be automatically removed, since it will still be there. But before confirming changes you can see them, to be safe, also: its not mine either :)
[11:24] <andy12345> llutz_, I had to play around the proxy setting to somwhow partially work on college wifi, now I am home and I don't need the proxy (used to update nicely here without proxy) so I am kinda stuck
[11:25] <botcity> jmvelasco:  holding packages means you will loose updates.
[11:25] <andy12345> llutz_, found the file, apt.conf.d
[11:25] <andy12345> llutz_, BRB 1 sec doorbell =)
[11:27] <andy12345> llutz_, can I comment it out with /*  here*/ so I can use it back when I get to college?
[11:28] <andy12345> llutz_,working thanks :D
[11:28] <llutz_> andy12345: not sure, but i'd use "#" to comment
[11:28] <andy12345> llutz_, i read somewhere linux is mostly written in c so i used /* */ it worked :D
[11:28] <llutz_> andy12345: thats why i asked to check apt-confs before
[11:29] <andy12345> llutz_ , love you *kiss* =D
[11:29] <llutz_> :D
[11:29] <jmvelasco> which php version comes with karmic koala version ?
[11:29] <andy12345> llutz_, if you have somemore time can I ask for mroe help regarding proxies? its not that urgent
[11:29] <jmvelasco> Squall5668, what is your tongue btw ?
[11:30] <llutz_> andy12345: just ask, but i'm not very good with proxies
[11:30] <jmvelasco> botcity, maybe you know this ?
[11:30] <JEEB> jmvelasco, http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/php5
[11:30] <JEEB> herp
[11:31] <jmvelasco> thanks JEEB
[11:32] <andy12345> llutz_, okay here it is, I usually connect to the internet on my college wifi where according to me the speed is blazing fast, I get around 2MBps download on windows, in ubuntu, I havent seen it cross 150KBps MAX for normal downloads and 15KBps for updates, I have changed my mirror to the nearest and played around with the proxy (my college wifi has a prxoy and ID pass for each student, the proxy is same for all), but the problem
[11:33] <thanassssss> i lost my data when i do new install of 11.04 ubuntu i had a partiont /home in btrfs and i do new install with the same user nameup to the old. i didnt format the partion just put the same name. how can i recover my lost data?
[11:33] <andy12345> llutz_, it stops in between and goes back to 0% even the software manager downloads the pacakges partially and then BAM goes back to 0%
[11:33] <tgalal> I'm doing an installation with kickstart, everything is working perfect except that during installation some packages are fetched from the internet which take a lot of time. Any idea how can I prevent that ???
[11:33] <tgalal> doing a network installation
[11:33] <llutz_> andy12345: poor linux wifi-drivers maybe?
[11:34] <andy12345> llutz_ , well with the same drivers I am getting the max juice out of my home wifi 32KBps
[11:35] <llutz_> andy12345: sry no idea then.
[11:35] <jkb11> tgalal, when the installer don't find packages, they'll be fetched from the interweb
[11:35] <jkb11> :p
[11:35] <andy12345> llutz_, I will look into that, any heads up or directions? (how will I know the exact model of my card and where to get its linux drivers?)
[11:35] <thanassssss> i lost my data when i do new install of 11.04 ubuntu i had a partiont /home in btrfs and i do new install with the same user nameup to the old. i didnt format the partion just put the same name. how can i recover my lost data?
[11:35] <jkb11> andy12345, where was ur proxy variables hiding? hehe
[11:36] <andy12345> jkbll, apt.conf.deb
[11:36] <Soothsayer> I'm using an XFX 9600 GT graphics card and planning to switch from Windows 7 to Ubuntu, would there be a problems with a multi-monitor setup?
[11:36] <andy12345> jkbll, apt.conf.d i mean
[11:36] <jkb11> andy12345, ahh
[11:36] <jkb11> good for u then
[11:36] <llutz_> andy12345: sudo lshw -c network       or lscpi   should show you the wifi-chipset
[11:37] <andy12345> I really had to play around with them but sadly still doesn't work satisfactorily for updates and software manager
[11:37] <atlef> Soothsayer, you should be fine
[11:37] <atlef> Soothsayer, i have 9800gtx+ and two monitors working just fine
[11:37] <stReaKEr> Is there a GUI for watching over voltage and temps of the system?
[11:37] <tgalal> jkb11, the installer finds all necessary packages, however it prompts for more (optional ones) since if I disable internet connections, they are failed to be retrieved, however the system works after installation. How can tell the installer to not fetch those optional packages?
[11:37] <Soothsayer> atlef: I should just use the drivers from the nvidia website ?
[11:38] <thanassssss> nobody knows?
[11:38] <atlef> Soothsayer, use the built in "hardware drivers" program to install drivers
[11:39] <atlef> thanassssss, try in #ubuntu+1
[11:39] <Soothsayer> I see
[11:39] <atlef> !natty | thanassssss
[11:39] <Soothsayer> atlef: and how does it work, the taskbar extends itself on the second monitor ?
[11:40] <jkb11> tgalal, sorry i don't remember the settings.
[11:40] <jkb11> tgalal, i remember having to muck around with sources.list
[11:41] <jkb11> but that's as far i can remember
[11:41] <atlef> Soothsayer, not sure, i only have it on one monitor
[11:41] <tgalal> jkb11, it looks like it's performing an update actually, since it's trying to fetch linux image, firmware ..etc
[11:41] <jkb11> tgalal, just let it run if it isn't a PITA ;)
[11:41] <Soothsayer> atlef: but can it be extended onto two ?
[11:41] <jkb11> after all you're upgrading no?
[11:42] <atlef> Soothsayer, it might be possible, never tried that
[11:43] <tgalal> jkb11, yes, but I'm installing on about 25 machines, so fetching the updates from the internet isn't so efficient. I need to somehow redirect the requests to a local repo
[11:43] <thanassssss> thanks
[11:45] <jkb11> tgalal, reading sources.list manpage might be of help.
[11:45] <jkb11> tgalal, sorry.
[11:46] <poptran> Hi has anyone got his ubuntu too slow recently?
[11:47] <poptran> I've installed the new kernel and the update nvidia driver and still too slow
[11:47] <jkb11> wait till i get one of those i7's :D
[11:47] <jkb11> will be blazingly fast
[11:48] <jkb11> poptran, they've made bunch of changes in .38 i think but i think that'll only be in natty or so
[11:49] <jkb11> availbale .i.e..
[11:49] <poptran> jkbll, the thing is sometimes goes well but after some hours ... it gets really slow
[11:50] <jkb11> poptran, you can use various tools to investigate that: htop, iotop, top
[11:50] <lionzw> freezimbabwe.com
[11:50] <poptran> i'm using htop
[11:50] <DogEars> How do I list all my USB equipment
[11:50] <ikonia> lsusb
[11:51] <poptran> and cpu process are really high when it comes to chromium or X
[11:51] <DogEars> thanks
[11:51] <jkb11> poptran, there u go
[11:51] <velory> Hello I'm trying to setup ubuntu server 10.10 .. Can you give me example for hostname and domain name ?
[11:51] <poptran> but I've already updated the right driver for my nvidia video card
[11:52] <poptran> ?
[11:52] <poptran> and set not effects for my desktop environment
[11:52] <jkb11> poptran, so you think its your graphics driver
[11:53] <poptran> well as soon as I reinstall my video driver
[11:53] <poptran> everything is much better
[11:53] <DogEars> Has anyone made one of these work? -- Bus 003 Device 002: ID 05e0:0300 Symbol Technologies
[11:53] <poptran> but couple of hour after ... it gets slow again
[11:53] <poptran> cpu process high
[11:53] <poptran> etc
[11:55] <DogEars> It is a barcode scanner with a Synapse serial/USB connection
[11:57] <Akashaa> hi! any hebrew users around?
[11:59] <lionzw> freezimbabwe.com
[12:02] <NeoInu> How would I flush my DNS in Maverick?
[12:03] <Akashaa> hi! any hebrew users around?
[12:03] <Akashaa> !il | akasha
[12:03] <None2> NeoInu: what does your /etc/resolv.conf say?
[12:03] <Abhijit> hi
[12:04] <lionzw> hi
[12:04] <NeoInu> Not much
[12:04] <NeoInu> o-o
[12:04] <lionzw> freezimbabwe.com
[12:04] <Abhijit> i dont have bluetooth in my laptop. i have bth in my mobile phone. i have usb cable to connect this phone to laptop. can i use bth of that mobile phone from my laptop?
[12:04] <Abhijit> help?
[12:04] <SixtyFold> whats il stand for? israel?
[12:04] <NeoInu> There we go
[12:04] <NeoInu> Just switched to Google DNS and it works again
[12:04] <NeoInu> :P
[12:04] <lionzw> how is everyone?
[12:05] <lionzw> hope you're okay
[12:05] <None2> NeoInu: basically, if your nameserver isn't <IP_ADDRESS>, you can't flush "your" dns
[12:06] <mbn_18> Hey guys, how can I reload the unity quick louncher after I install  a new app ( without logout )
[12:07] <lionzw> apparently nerds aren't very fond of sentiment haha
[12:07] <jatt> nerds?
[12:08] <jatt> how old are you, 8?
[12:09] <loxs> folks, I see all previous versions of ubuntu have git-p4. Why is this not in 10.10?
[12:09] <loxs> si it included in some other package or what? how can I find out?
[12:09] <Abhijit> !info git
[12:10] <lionzw> jatt you're a NERD
[12:10] <s0u][ight> hello, i just managed to get multitouch working on my nf-210, now i want to switch the functions of double tab and triple tap, where can i do that?
[12:10] <loxs> Abhijit, it's not in git. I have git installed and it doesn't recognise the p4 commands
[12:10] <Abhijit> hmm. nvm.
[12:11] <loxs> (or if it's in git, then it's broken)
[12:11] <lionzw> jatt do people stop using the word nerd at 9 yrs of age?
[12:11] <lionzw> hmm
[12:11] <garic> hey whenever i press backspace to many times i get an extremely loud and annoying beep. This is not coming from the pc speaker but from my sound system. How do i disable that? I managed to disable it fro the gnome-terminal, but not for the rest.
[12:12] <lionzw> too many times
[12:13] <lionzw> freezimbabwe.com
[12:14] <JuJuBee> I have a server currently connected to my lan and isp.  It is my gateway, dhcp server, firewall, etc...  I need to connect to another network.  Added card and when I set the card to dhcp, it gets same IP as my internal NIC.
[12:14] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me configure it?
[12:15] <lionzw> JuJuBee, jatt will help you
[12:15] <JuJuBee> How do you know that?
[12:15] <jatt> JuJuBee: lionzw is a troll, please ignore him
[12:16] <JuJuBee> I see
[12:16] <lionzw> jatt, don't jump to conclusions
[12:16] <lionzw> man
[12:16] <lionzw> callin' me a troll
[12:16] <jatt>  /ignore lionzw
[12:17] <KevinNorfolk> hi all :)
[12:17] <JuJuBee> Either way, need help with configuring my 3rd nic
[12:17] <KevinNorfolk> is there a specific room for Natty help at the moment?
[12:17] <bazhang> KevinNorfolk, `#ubuntu+1
[12:17] <KevinNorfolk> cool... ty :D
[12:17] <teoman99> can anyone tell me how to install skype on ubuntu-10.10
[12:18] <KevinNorfolk> cya all *waves*
[12:18] <iceroot> !sykpe | teoman99
[12:18] <lionzw> freezimbabwe.com
[12:18] <lionzw> 13:14 -!- withoutnick<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit [Client Quit]
[12:18] <iceroot> !skype | teoman99
[12:18] <sipior> lionzw: enough with the adverts. decidedly off-topic here.
[12:19] <bazhang> lionzw, please stop that
[12:19] <teoman99> thanks
[12:19] <lionzw> i've been drinking all apologies for any misunderstandings
[12:24] <robbie2685> hi there
[12:24] <robbie2685> need help
[12:24] <freeZIMBABWEdotC> hi
[12:24] <atlef> !ask | robbie2685
[12:24] <robbie2685> i did a clean install of ubuntu 10.10
[12:24] <freeZIMBABWEdotC> om
[12:24] <robbie2685> i cannot customize my desktop
[12:25] <bazhang> freeZIMBABWEdotC, stop that
[12:25] <robbie2685> i have Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[12:25] <freeZIMBABWEdotC> what does freedom mean to you
[12:25] <bazhang> freeZIMBABWEdotC, this is the wrong channel for it.
[12:26] <freeZIMBABWEdotC> for what, freedom
[12:26] <sipior> freeZIMBABWEdotC: find another place to play, lionzw.
[12:26] <bazhang> freeZIMBABWEdotC, you'll be removed if you continue
[12:28] <freeZIMBABWEdotC> i will continue to stand for freedom and human rights, at the risk of my own life, if that's a bad thing then do something about it
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> take it so the proper forum then.
[12:31] <ullas> hello
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> Howdy
[12:31] <ullas> how are you
[12:31] <sec_goat> mornin!
[12:31] <ullas> you too
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> digging in for the tech support storm that will hit here when the next release comes out...
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> wow - getting 50MB/Sec to this new USB 3 Hard drive..  :)
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> time to get more of them
[12:32] <ullas> anyone lisitening
[12:32] <bazhang> ullas, ubuntu support question?
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> ullas:  got a ubuntu support issue?
[12:33] <POOPHAMMER> howdy all
[12:33] <ullas> howdy
[12:33] <bazhang> ullas, hi
[12:34] <ullas> how are you
[12:34] <neirad> good
[12:34] <neirad> hbu?
[12:34] <bazhang> ullas, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic not here
[12:34] <neirad> I have some questions about reformatting my hdd, can anyone help me with that?
[12:34] <bazhang> neirad, using gparted ?
[12:35] <jatt> !ask
[12:35] <POOPHAMMER> explain away
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> claify the question and see.
[12:35] <ullas> sure
[12:36] <ullas> nirad what is it that you want
[12:36] <neirad> I'm running dual os right now, I had a severe virus that damaged my xp's registry, making it un-repairable. I recently switched over to ubuntu, I configured my jumpdrive for boot with ubuntu on it, and now I want to delete xp off of my partition, but I keep getting an error when I try to boot from the jumpdrive
[12:37] <POOPHAMMER> is your bios set to boot off that drive?
[12:37] <neirad> Yes
[12:37] <neirad> one thing about that though
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> clarify what you did to the jumpdrive.. You insrtalled linux to it? how?
[12:37] <POOPHAMMER> do you have a proper boot image on the drive?
[12:37] <neirad> is when I set it to boot of the drive, it thinks that the jump drive is a hard drive and not a removeable disk
[12:37] <neirad> I used the Ubuntu application to make it bootable
[12:38] <neirad> the jumpdrive
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> necrodearia: neirad why does it not being removeable matter?> You boot from it.. and dont remove it while its in use..
[12:38] <POOPHAMMER> shoudlnt it some up on the mBR or GRUB?
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> that tool; uses syslinux - not grub i recall.
[12:38] <neirad> Well I just thought that it was odd that my motherboard was considering it an actual hdd
[12:38] <POOPHAMMER> well i never really messes with that tool
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> My MB shows my flash drives in the 'hard drive' listing.
[12:38] <neirad> Would that be part of my issue? is that it doesn't use Grub?
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> in the bios/boot menu.
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> live usb dosent need to use grub. syslinux works fine for the job. You CAN make a bootable flash that uses grub2 to boot ISO files.
[12:39] <POOPHAMMER> are you able to get a live CD?
[12:39] <neirad> I'm not sure, where would I get one?
[12:39] <POOPHAMMER> burn it
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> neirad:  clairy what the actual problem is? the usb dosent boot? or what exactly? whats the error?
[12:40] <neirad> I tried burning the ubuntu iso onto a disc, but it kept freezing up whenever I did
[12:40] <neirad> it's an error the ubuntu displays when I click install
[12:40] <POOPHAMMER> are you trying to install ubuntu or use it live?
[12:40] <neirad> I don't remember exactly what the error is, I think something like there was a problem with the /root
[12:41] <neirad> I want to just clear the partition on my drive and install fresh
[12:41] <POOPHAMMER> install windows or ubuntu fresh?
[12:41] <POOPHAMMER> there are plenty of tools you can use to format a drive
[12:41] <neirad> ubuntu, I really could care less for windows at this moment
[12:41] <neirad> and I don't have a valid key for windows anymore
[12:42] <POOPHAMMER> well do you have a disc?
[12:42] <POOPHAMMER> for windows
[12:42] <ullas> thats right no worries install anyone fresh
[12:42] <neirad> Yes but I'm not sure if my cd drive is burning correctly
[12:42] <neirad> since that's what I've been trying to do for the past few hours is burn a disc of ubuntu
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> yow did you make the usb?  from what sort of disk/install/system?
[12:42] <POOPHAMMER> well if you can get into the repair console of windows you can refprmat the drive from there
[12:43] <neirad> I tried to do the cmd > format C: /q
[12:43] <neirad> but it said I couldn't reformat the system or something like that
[12:43] <jatt> what?
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> without telling us the error the USB is giving you . we cant really suggest much to fix that.
[12:43] <POOPHAMMER> did you do thise form within windows?
[12:43] <neirad> yeah I did it from cmd
[12:43] <jatt> ask in #windows
[12:43] <POOPHAMMER> use a recovery cy
[12:43] <POOPHAMMER> cd
[12:43] <POOPHAMMER> and do it from that in command mode
[12:44] <ImperialXT> Hey, I'm having problems with my headphones, when I plug them in my speakers dont get muted and sound just plays through both of them. So yeah, help would be appreciated
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> if hes not going to reinstall windows.. whats the point in formating C: :)
[12:44] <ullas> burn it  with a good medium and burn in lower speed
[12:44] <POOPHAMMER> that way ensures that your windows OS is not in use and the recovery cd is running the command prompt
[12:44] <SixtyFold> do you have a windows cd disc?
[12:44] <neirad> hmmm, well I don't have a recovery cd, I can try to do a fresh install, and if I get the error again, I can write it down and comeback.
[12:44] <Gnea> neirad: is the cd drive the only method you have of booting? what about a usb flashdrive?
[12:44] <SixtyFold> you straight up boot into an xp or win 7 disc
[12:44] <SixtyFold> you dont need a code
[12:44] <POOPHAMMER> thats what im tryingto tell him SixtyFold :P
[12:44] <SixtyFold> yah
[12:44] <SixtyFold> you just get to the format part
[12:44] <SixtyFold> kill it, load ubuntu, boom
[12:44] <SixtyFold> haha
[12:44] <POOPHAMMER> its really easy
[12:45] <neirad> that's what I've been trying to do haha
[12:45] <neirad> but it hasn't been easy
[12:45] <neirad> lol
[12:45] <POOPHAMMER> in fact you could format from within ubuntu as well
[12:45] <SixtyFold> its ghetto as what but it works everytime
[12:45] <atlef> neirad, try unetbootin
[12:45] <neirad> well it won't let me format
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> neirad:  what exactly is not metting you format?
[12:45] <Gnea> neirad: what are you using to make the cd with?
[12:45] <neirad> from within ubuntu since I'm using the hdd im trying to format
[12:45] <SixtyFold> if you use a windows xp/7 disc, there's no way it wont reformat it from in the installation process
[12:46] <neirad>  Dr_willis: I don't understand what you mean by metting
[12:46] <SixtyFold> no commands nothing, the GUI installer will do it for you
[12:46] <neirad> Gnea : I was using a Lite-DVD RW
[12:46] <Gnea> neirad: pretty sure he meant 'letting'
[12:46] <Gnea> neirad: okay, but what program?
[12:46] <neirad> oh
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> neirad:  what are you trying to format? If you want to install ubuntu. You boot the  cd. and run the installer.. then it lets you REPARTITION the hard drive. and format the filesystems as needed.
[12:46] <Rounin> Hello! Anyone know off the top of their head whether cryptsetup/dm-crypt with aes-cbc-essiv is available on the normal Ubuntu installation CD?
[12:46] <Rounin> I have an old alternative CD as well, but I'd like to throw it away
[12:46] <neirad>  Gnea: I was using the Ubuntu app
[12:47] <aurilliance> I restarted my Ububtu laptop this evening and it doesn't start up. I can press ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a shell, can someone walk me through how to get it running again?
[12:47] <Gnea> neirad: Ubuntu has many apps - how have you loaded ubuntu up? via cd? via hdd?
[12:47] <POOPHAMMER> whee this ATI driver install is taking ages!
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  you mean to be saying 'X' is Not starting up. :) if youy can get to the normal console. then it did 'startup'
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  try the 'startx' command and look for error messaghes for starters.
[12:47] <Feldegast> Rounin it will do home only, need the alternate for other mount points iirc
[12:48] <Rounin> Ah... But the software is at least there, Feldegast... Probably anyway
[12:48] <neirad>  Gnea: do you mean how I orignally installed it? because I'm currently using ubuntuu, but I have a limited amount of space (10gb) when my hdd is 80gb, Installed it with my flash drive but now I want to just delete xp
[12:48] <Rounin> I usually do it manually anyway; cryptsetup luksOpen blah blah
[12:48] <Rounin> More fun that way
[12:48] <Feldegast> Rounin i would use alternate cd
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> neirad:  so You  have a working Ubuntu Install? and want to delete the XP partition?
[12:48] <neirad>  Gnea: I tried using Brasero for the burning
[12:49] <neirad>  Dr_Willis: Yes that's what I want to do
[12:49] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis: yeah sorry. Startx crashes and says failed to activate core devices.
[12:49] <Gnea> neirad: ah okay, do you have enough space to install k3b?
[12:49] <Rounin> Thanks Feldegast; I'll keep it around just to be sure
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> neirad:  use gparted, and be sure you are not accessing the XP partiton. make sure its UNMOUNTED.
[12:49] <neirad>  Gnea: I have 10gb available atm
[12:49] <pygreen> neirad: use gparted, delete the xp partition and resize the ubuntu partition by using gparted from a live USB/CD
[12:49] <Gnea> neirad: awesome, install k3b then and use that to make the cd instead of brasero
[12:49] <neirad>  I have g-parted downloaded, can I put the iso on my flashdrive?
[12:50] <pygreen> yes, with unetbootin
[12:50] <Gnea> sure
[12:50] <Gnea> !usb | neirad
[12:50] <Feldegast> Rounin when i was playing with that i used the alternate cd to set up luks, was easy, not sure what encryption it used now though
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> neirad:  you can use unetbootin, or the usb-creator tool or other tools from Pendrivelinux to make the bootable flash drive.
[12:51] <neirad>  is there a way to test if it's bootable already? because I made it bootable when I put ubuntu on it (my flash drive) and I guess I'll go make some room and throw gpart on there and run it, will it still boot if I do it that way?
[12:51] <Feldegast> does ubuntu have something to defrag files on usb devices? iso's do not boot if fragmented
[12:52] <Gnea> neirad: yeah, plug it in and reboot, make sure the system is set to boot from a usb device
[12:52] <pygreen> neirad: you should see the bootable flag in gparted if it is bootable
[12:52] <Feldegast> neirad you can add files to a usb drive without breaking it's boot status
[12:52] <sevi> Hello, i have a question about starting a program from console: i use blender 2.57, but if i write "blender" in the console, blender 2.56 gets started. So i need to adjust the path correctly, can someone help me dooing this?
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> Feldegast:  ive never seen that need or heard of that issue.
[12:52] <Guest3210> hello
[12:53] <neirad>  Awesome, I'm going to go try and run gparted then, if I run into any Issues I'll come back and let you guys know..Thanks for all the help!!! :D
[12:53] <jatt> type
[12:53] <jatt> which blender
[12:53] <Gnea> neirad: cheers
[12:53] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis: I can sudo startx, but trying to start it as myself it crashes. Any suggestions?