[01:03] <TheLighty> hello folks
[01:04] <TheLighty> is anyone around
[01:05] <TheLighty> can anyone recommand a cpanel like interface for Ubuntu on the serve
[01:25] <TheLighty> can anyone recommand a cpanel like interface for Ubuntu on the serve
[02:01] <TheLighty> anyone around yet
[03:30] <CrummyGummy> Hi all, I was running tomcat5 behind apache2 fine. How do I get tomcat5.5 to work now? I've edited the workers.properties file. Anything else I've got to do?
[04:03] <TheLighty> is anyone around yet in here
[04:04] <lionel> CrummyGummy: what is your problem ?
[04:05] <TheLighty> can anyone recommand a cpanel like interface for Ubuntu on the serve
[04:05] <TheLighty> I am gettin a dedicated server today with peinstalled Ubuntu
[04:05] <TheLighty> not sure how much of the install they will do
[04:06] <TheLighty> But I know I will need a cpanel like interface and whm like interface
[04:07] <CrummyGummy> lionel, It seems that theres no response from tomcat to mod_jks requests.
[04:08] <lionel> CrummyGummy: what does apache logs say ?
[04:09] <lionel> TheLighty: sorry, my cpanel is vim :-(. That will not help you :-(
[04:40] <jhutchins_lt> So which mail servers have the ability to define a "fallback" method of sending a message if the primary (direct) method fails?
[05:09] <GNu_Joe> jhutchins, good question, but not my experteese
[07:22] <TheLighty> hello folks
[07:22] <TheLighty> I could use some help configuring Ubuntu
[08:48] <CrypTom> Hi, I've got a problem with the ubuntu kernel "-server": The keyboard of my server (a normal pc) stops working after grub hands over control to the kernel. This does not happen with the -generic kernel.
[08:49] <CrypTom> I'm using edgy with the most recent kernel 2.6.17-11
[08:49] <CrypTom> Is this behavior known? Is there a solution (other than using the -generic) kernel?
[09:07] <GNu_Joe> CrypTom, the server kernel is compiled diffrently, there are know issues, have to checked the bug list?
[09:10] <CrypTom> GNu_Joe: where do I find this list?
[09:12] <GNu_Joe> CrypTom, Think it's https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[09:15] <TheLighty> is anyone around yet
[09:15] <TheLighty> sure could use some help
[09:18] <TheLighty> man I keep missin people
[09:23] <TheLighty> CarlFK CrummyGummy DJ_Mirage GNu_Joe RemoteViewer TheLighty[BNC]  \sh ajmitch asw cemil_ chesty fabbione infinity2 ivoks jhutchins lbm lionel maswan minttea mralphabet r00tintheb0x ra1nb0w tmarble ubuntulog zenrox
[09:23] <r00tintheb0x> yes?
[09:23] <TheLighty> thanx
[09:23] <r00tintheb0x> lol
[09:23] <r00tintheb0x> whtas up
[09:23] <TheLighty> I am a noob
[09:23] <r00tintheb0x> great!
[09:23] <r00tintheb0x> d52 1 1 c0t1d0s4
[09:23] <r00tintheb0x> oops
[09:23] <TheLighty> I just got a dedicated server with ubuntu 6.10
[09:23] <r00tintheb0x> may bad, whats the problem TheLighty
[09:24] <lionel> TheLighty: no need to hl all the people there !
[09:24] <r00tintheb0x> okay.
[09:24] <TheLighty> sorry guys
[09:24] <r00tintheb0x> good choice TheLighty
[09:24] <TheLighty> btu I been asking for help since last night
[09:24] <TheLighty> any hows
[09:24] <TheLighty> all I have is ssh access
[09:24] <TheLighty> nithing else
[09:24] <TheLighty> they did not install LAMP
[09:25] <TheLighty> I have 5 ip's too
[09:25] <TheLighty> and I have no idea where to start
[09:25] <TheLighty> this is a unmanaged server
[09:25] <\sh> sudo apt-get install mysql-server apache2 libapache2-mod-php5
[09:25] <lionel> a good starting point could be to explain what you want :)
[09:26] <TheLighty> well
[09:26] <\sh> that's lamp
[09:26] <lionel> but \sh has a better suggestion :)
[09:26] <\sh> linux apache mysql and php54
[09:26] <\sh> linux apache mysql and php5
[09:26] <\sh> cd /etc/apache2
[09:26] <TheLighty> linux apache mysql and php4
[09:26] <TheLighty> going
[09:26] <\sh> php4 is obsolete for ubuntu and will go in a few days
[09:26] <\sh> php5 is state of art
[09:26] <TheLighty> root@ubuntu:~# cd /etc/apache2
[09:26] <TheLighty> -bash: cd: /etc/apache2: No such file or directory
[09:27] <TheLighty> well I am into vbb
[09:27] <\sh> vbb?
[09:27] <TheLighty> and I here there are some issues
[09:27] <TheLighty> but I think I may be able to work those out
[09:27] <TheLighty> yes
[09:27] <TheLighty> vbulletin board
[09:27] <\sh> oh this I'm installing in 5 minutes using ubuntu...I did that here in my company
[09:28] <TheLighty> oh cool
[09:28] <TheLighty> then sure
[09:28] <\sh> vbb is just a tar.gz ...you have to follow the readme and install docs in the tar
[09:28] <TheLighty> also want ot put some counter strike game serverson here for my son & his froends
[09:28] <TheLighty> I know how to install vbb
[09:28] <\sh> the rest is apt-get install apache2 mysql-server  libapache2-mod-php5 and configuring apache2
[09:29] <TheLighty> been writing hacks for it gor many years
[09:29] <\sh> TheLighty: what I can hear is, that you need someone who has a clue about administrating linux server...and their i-net services, right? ,-)
[09:29] <TheLighty> yes
[09:30] <TheLighty> I am use to managed server
[09:30] <TheLighty> I have 2 of those
[09:30] <TheLighty> now I am trying un maged
[09:30] <TheLighty> I know enough to be dangerous
[09:32] <TheLighty> so can you help
[09:37] <\sh> sorry no, I have enough to do with my 300 blades right now
[09:38] <TheLighty> man
[09:38] <TheLighty> I thought this was support
[09:39] <\sh> I told you already how to install LAMP....the other things are unsupported...and I can't give you a lesson in "how to become a sysadmin in less then 5 mins"
[09:41] <mralphabet> TheLighty: this is the server development discussion channel, not a general support channel
[09:41] <\sh> Topic:Ubuntu Server *development* discussion | general support -> #ubuntu
[09:41] <mralphabet> most in here idle or talk about the wacky bugs that come up
[09:42] <mralphabet> further, there are *many* pages about  how to set up an ubuntu lamp server and even more on how to work with one if you search for "ubuntu lamp" in google
[09:43] <TheLighty> thanx found a bunch
[09:44] <mralphabet> the type of support you are asking for is usually a paid service from an experienced admin
[09:44] <mralphabet> so those are pretty much your options . . . google it and learn for yourself, use #ubuntu for general support, or pony up some $$ to work with an experienced admin
[09:44] <\sh> between 60 and 120  per hour , depending on the knowledge of the freelancer ,-)
[09:58] <sacater> anyone here know of a kind soul who is willing to let me have a space on their server :|
[09:58] <sacater> for free i may add
[10:02] <mralphabet> if you admin his server, TheLighty may . . .
[10:02] <mralphabet> I don't know of any sane person that would be willing
[10:02] <TheLighty> lol
[10:03] <TheLighty> you guys gave me a few tips
[10:03] <TheLighty> server is up and running thanx
[10:03] <mralphabet> good to hear
[10:03] <TheLighty> wasn't as hard as I thought
[10:03] <TheLighty> only thingg I need to figure out is how to add more IP's
[10:04] <sacater> TheLighty: dunno whats going on..... but...... space on your server?
[10:04] <TheLighty> what do you need it for
[10:04] <sacater> storage
[10:04] <TheLighty> no warez
[10:04] <mralphabet> or porn
[10:04] <sacater> no
[10:04] <sacater> i know
[10:04] <mralphabet> well, no kiddie porn
[10:04] <sacater> mralphabet: :P
[10:04] <mralphabet> regular porn isn't so bad
[10:04] <TheLighty> right
[10:04] <sacater> mralphabet: ill have you know i am responisble about porn :P
[10:05] <sacater> TheLighty: ?
[10:05] <mralphabet> sacater: more then I needed to know, but thanks for sharing
[10:05] <mralphabet> ;)
[10:05] <sacater> mralphabet: oh you got me wrong :p
[10:06] <mralphabet> TheLighty: I don't know about you, and no offense to sacater, I wouldn't let anybody have access in any way to any server that I admin that I don't know
[10:06] <mralphabet> particularly if said person is outside of driving distance of me / my car / my baseball bat
[10:07] <sacater> mralphabet: 80 miles from london okay?
[10:07] <mralphabet> nope, sorry ;(
[10:08] <sacater> oh well
[10:08] <sacater> i excape the baseball bat
[10:13] <\sh> sf.net has enough space for OSS projects
[10:13] <\sh> and  I think lycos europe has still it's tripod service up and running


[00:11] <brousch__> Wow, yeah, that didn't make any sense.
[00:11] <brousch__> It made less cents than a broken change machine.
[00:12] <brousch__> It made less scents than a skunk with no anal glands.
[00:13] <greg-g> and on that note, it's quitting time
[00:25] <cmaloney> heh'
[00:25] <cmaloney> heh
[00:40] <Zimdale> So who is going to the meetup next tuesday!?
[00:44] <cmaloney> Which meetup? :)
[00:44] <Zimdale> mug?
[00:44] <cmaloney> Yah, I'm planning on being there
[00:44] <Zimdale> Cool
[00:45] <Zimdale> I'm thinking about going as long as I can get out to vote in the morning
[00:45] <cmaloney> cool. :)
[00:46] <gamerchick02> i'd love to go to mug but it conflicts with my Nile Session. *sigh* oh well.
[00:46] <Zimdale> Nile session?
[00:51] <gamerchick02> a fraternal group i belong to
[00:51] <gamerchick02> we're related to Shriners and Masons.
[00:51] <gamerchick02> we support the Shrine Hospitals for Children.
[00:52] <gamerchick02> daughtersofthenile.com
[12:41] <cmaloney> morning
[12:41] <Zimdale> Morning!
[13:50] <jrwren> I just looked for a minimize button in the upper right... on a mac... something tells me today is going to be great.
[13:51] <cmaloney> jrwren: At least it's interesting. :)
[13:51] <cmaloney> What did you find there? :)
[13:51] <jrwren> cmaloney: i found my insanity. Then pressed cmd-h
[14:46] <cmaloney> Heh
[16:52] <jrwren> UOS is in two weeks. Register and put on calendar: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/
[17:47] <cmaloney> greg-g: I can't see why you stopped hanging out on the CC channel
[17:47] <greg-g> sarcasm or no?
[17:48] <cmaloney> All this talk of how things aren't attributed correctly (via a slack bot) is fascinating
[17:48] <cmaloney> ;)
[17:49] <cmaloney> (Sarcasm)
[17:49] <greg-g> :) :)
[17:49] <cmaloney> Even better: finding out that one of the requirements of the 4.0 licesnes is linking to the text of the deed when you haven't done it for 140+ episodes


[07:17] <Saviq> mzanetti, hey, it shouldn't be difficult to apply a different OOM score to the dash should it? see bug #1379296
[08:33] <tsdgeos> vesar: did JMulholland have a chance to try the bottom list thing? any input?
[08:33] <tsdgeos> i think the wizard just crashed on me
[08:34] <tsdgeos> when trying to select the language
[08:36] <tsdgeos> _usr_sbin_unity-system-compositor.0.crash
[08:42] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: do you know anything about a volume notification that appears one passing the first screen of the wizard?
[08:42] <tsdgeos> feels pretty weird
[08:43] <mzanetti> Saviq: ack, can look into that today
[08:43] <Saviq> mzanetti, too lat
[08:43] <Saviq> e
[08:44] <Saviq> mzanetti, https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/qtmir/dash-killed-less-likely/+merge/237915
[08:44] <Saviq> with a test and all!
[08:44]  * Saviq happy to know that he can still write some code (or at least copy-paste it :P)
[08:45] <mzanetti> hehe
[08:45] <mzanetti> congrats
[08:48] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, the welcome-wizard?!
[08:48] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: yep
[08:49] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, did you press the any of the volume-keys?
[08:49] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: i'm pretty sure i did not
[08:49] <Saviq> MacSlow, tsdgeos, there's a bug
[08:49] <tsdgeos> i've had that twice or three times already
[08:49] <tsdgeos> Saviq: ah ok
[08:49] <greyback> ensureProcessABitMoreLikelyToBeKilledThanShellButNotMuch
[08:49] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, Saviq: oh... that's news to me
[08:49] <tsdgeos> Saviq: bug # ?
[08:49] <Saviq> bug #1379287
[08:50] <Saviq> update your sound indicator and it should be gone
[08:50] <MacSlow> Saviq, tsdgeos: ah... I'm pretty sure I know what's causing this
[08:51] <Saviq> MacSlow, ted reverted the bubbles in i-sound trunk already, and has a new branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-sound/synchronous-notification/+merge/237666
[08:51] <MacSlow> Saviq, tsdgeos: my initial indicator-sound branch was reverted... yeah that
[08:52] <MacSlow> Saviq, tsdgeos: among the sync. notification/max-volume-warning work I'm also working on a new indicator-sound branch, which will avoid that from happening again
[08:52] <Saviq> MacSlow, make sure you sync with ted's branch then
[08:52] <MacSlow> Saviq, yup
[08:52] <Saviq> tsdgeos, you not working on the qmltest fail are you?
[08:53] <tsdgeos> Saviq: the ShellWithPin::test_factoryReset  ? no i'm testing touchOwnership for the last time
[08:54] <Saviq> tsdgeos, kk, I'll look to fix the test then
[08:58] <Saviq> tsdgeos, btw, I had a look at dash mem usage between pre and post more-in-mem... couldn't see a real difference... if anything it's using less memory now :P
[08:58] <tsdgeos> :D
[08:59] <tsdgeos> Saviq: ok, so i approved touchOwnership, do you want me to top approve or want someone to have another look?
[08:59] <Saviq> tsdgeos, I think functional testing in silo will be enouh
[08:59] <Saviq> enough
[09:00] <tsdgeos> ok
[09:00] <tsdgeos> there we go
[09:21] <Saviq> mzanetti, I blame you https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/fix-shellwithpin-test/+merge/237922 :P
[09:21] <mzanetti> Saviq: why would you do that?
[09:22] <Saviq> mzanetti, blame you? because you reviewed mterry's branch which broke this
[09:22] <Saviq> tablet-security
[09:22] <Saviq> although somehow it passed in ci
[09:26] <Saviq> Wellark, wasn't the "I see white before I see the SIM PIN dialog" supposed to be fixed already?
[09:35] <Wellark> Saviq: ask MacSlow
[09:35] <Wellark> Saviq: my take on that is that let's leave it unfixed, as it will be a PITA
[09:35] <Wellark> it's just a brief clitch
[09:35] <Saviq> Wellark, well, *you* told me that it doesn't matter, because it will be fixed with your stuff ;P
[09:36] <Saviq> Wellark, still, it's going to be the first thing you see on your phone when you turn it on...
[09:36] <Wellark> Saviq: with my stuff we fixed the flickering while using the dialog
[09:36] <Saviq> kk, we need to fix the flickering when opening, too
[09:36] <Wellark> it used to flicker and sometimes break completely if you entered your pin wrong
[09:36] <MacSlow> Wellark, Saviq: such tiny glitches don't fit in the current notification-feature demand :)
[09:36] <Saviq> yeah ok
[09:36] <Saviq> MacSlow, not a feature ;P
[09:36] <Wellark> Saviq: it's PITA to fix
[09:37] <MacSlow> and that too
[09:37] <Saviq> MacSlow, can't we delay showing the notification until the model is loaded or something?
[09:37] <Wellark> as the pin unlock is the only fullscreen snap decision
[09:37] <Wellark> and yes, the clitch comes from the fact that the "fullscreen" property is not ready until the Loader finishes to load the pin-unlock snap decision
[09:37] <MacSlow> Saviq, I learned that one can't poke into models
[09:38] <MacSlow> Saviq, without really digging into it I can't tell if one could fix that or not
[09:38] <vesar> tsdgeos, I just saw him checking your implementation and expect him to get back to you with his comments soon. JMulholland^
[09:38] <Wellark> Saviq: there are just too many loaders involved
[09:39] <Saviq> MacSlow, k, let's look into it once we got the more pressing things in
[09:39] <JMulholland> tsdgeos: We’ve taken a look, need to put together some feedback but impressive progress so far!
[09:39] <Wellark> Saviq: +1
[09:39] <Saviq> Wellark, let's uninvolve them then ;P
[09:39] <MacSlow> Saviq, Wellark: yup
[09:39] <Wellark> Saviq: well, why did you allow the unity8 tree to have Loaders everywhere? ;)
[09:39] <Wellark> I hate the things
[09:40] <Saviq> Wellark, because we like to be able to run apps
[09:40] <Wellark> Saviq: just grep unity8 for "Loader" and see the results ;)
[09:40] <Wellark> Saviq: I'm not saying they should be removed completely
[09:40] <Saviq> Wellark, yes, again, because we like to be able to run apps
[09:40] <Wellark> but I'm sensing a slight overuse ;)
[09:41] <Wellark> anywayw
[09:41] <Wellark> we are not even close to a point of starting to think such optimizations
[09:41] <Wellark> so let's just have the loaders and acknowledge that we might have slight clitches
[09:42] <Wellark> Saviq: btw, do we have any sane QML profiling tools already?
[09:42] <Wellark> something that draws pretty pictures?
[09:42] <Saviq> Wellark, you mean like QtCreator's profiler that's there from when we started?
[09:43] <Wellark> Saviq: If I remember correctly the qtcreator profiler could not dig into the c++ side of the calls or anything?
[09:43] <Saviq> Wellark, if you want C++ calls, there's any number of profiler tools out there
[09:44] <Wellark> Saviq: both combined: the QML side and C++ side
[09:45] <larsu> Saviq: no dednick today? Do you know who I could assign bug #1369737 to?
[09:45] <Wellark> not separately
[09:45] <Saviq> Wellark, combined, no, not that I know of
[09:45] <Saviq> larsu, he's around, just went out to bring a friend to the emergency room....
[09:46] <larsu> Saviq: oh, hope he's ok. I'll assign to him
[09:46] <Wellark> larsu: are you close on the Final Solution of the toggle switches getting out of sync?
[09:46] <larsu> Saviq: thanks
[09:46] <larsu> Wellark: that's a question for dednick. We decided that he'll add a timeout on the switch and reset it if the service didn't change state
[09:52] <Saviq> larsu, Wellark, there's a branch https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/unity8/lp1336715.server-value-reassert/+merge/237822
[09:52] <Wellark> larsu: so this solution is not changing the semantics of the switches as seen from GAction API point of view?
[09:53] <larsu> Wellark: yes, the semantics are quite fine, the UI didn't react right
[09:54] <Wellark> larsu: <3
[10:16] <tsdgeos> Saviq: can you try to reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1251597 with http://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-builder-utopic-armhf/7001/artifact/work/output/*zip*/output.zip ?
[10:16] <tsdgeos> i can't
[10:17] <Saviq> tsdgeos, didn't try, but it makes sense, just link the bug'n'branch
[10:17] <tsdgeos> ok
[10:25] <tsdgeos> Cimi: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/flickables-speed-workaround/+merge/234298 ?
[10:25] <tsdgeos> larsu: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/unity8/stop-using-statusicon/+merge/234502 ?
[10:26] <Cimi> tsdgeos, ouch
[10:26] <tsdgeos> Saviq: i don't have a x-compile setup, but now that CI passes i guess we can just approve https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/unity8/fix-cross/+merge/234818 ?
[10:27] <Saviq> tsdgeos, well, not according to Colin...
[10:27] <Saviq> tsdgeos, I'll have a chat with him it's good enough for now
[10:27] <tsdgeos> ok
[10:27] <Saviq> if
[10:28] <larsu> tsdgeos: should be fixed once https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/icons/+merge/236497 lands
[10:29] <tsdgeos> larsu: ok
[10:35] <larsu> how do you handle showing times in the correct locale? messaging menu does it the wrong way according to bug #1372061
[10:35] <larsu> it uses QDateTime::fromString()
[10:35] <larsu> the reporter suggest making the format string translatable, but that sounds wrong to me...
[10:37] <larsu> QLocale::toString() ?
[10:41] <tsdgeos> larsu: QDateTime::toString ?
[10:42] <larsu> tsdgeos: sorry that's what I meant.
[10:42] <tsdgeos> larsu: that one should work
[10:43] <larsu> tsdgeos: it doesn't respect locale according to the bug (which makes sense, we pass a fixed format into it)
[10:43] <tsdgeos> larsu: well, don't :D
[10:43] <tsdgeos> larsu: there's a version that does it right
[10:44] <larsu> tsdgeos: I think we did that because design...
[10:44] <tsdgeos> larsu: if the available Qt::DateFormat don't suit you, then yes you'll have to make the string translatable
[10:44] <tsdgeos> but someone from design should be told not to invent time formats
[10:45] <tsdgeos> or at least if we're going to invent them
[10:45] <tsdgeos> centralize them on the SDK
[10:45] <larsu> right, that makes a lot of sense
[10:45] <larsu> thanks for the info
[10:47] <Saviq> oh look, I wonder who created a blueprint for that a year ago https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+spec/time-formatter
[10:49] <tsdgeos> wohohoho
[10:49] <tsdgeos> :D
[10:58] <larsu> Saviq: right, this is timeformatter.cpp in unity8
[10:58] <larsu> Saviq: which already does the automatically-update-when-timezone-changes part
[10:58] <Saviq> larsu, yeah, but shouldn't exist in unity8 at all
[10:59] <larsu> Saviq: unity8 is the only consumer of this right now. If we like the API and there's something else that wants to use it, let's move it to the toolkit
[10:59] <larsu> apparently we shouldn't yet, because it does the wrong thing with the format
[10:59] <larsu> ;)
[11:00] <Saviq> larsu, sure, it does some wrong things, and some others - not at all
[11:00] <Saviq> larsu, which is why it's not in the toolkit yet
[11:05] <larsu> Saviq: that's what I just said?!
[11:05] <Saviq> larsu, possibly
[11:06] <mzanetti> do we have a color definition for the popver color in here? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/185198724/launcher_standard-menu.jpg
[11:12] <Saviq> mzanetti, UbuntuColors.lightGrey I think?
[11:12] <Saviq> mzanetti, actually probably not
[11:12] <Saviq> mzanetti, since dash has f5f5f5 hardcoded
[11:13] <Cimi> tsdgeos, fixed
[11:14] <mzanetti> Saviq: no f5f5f5 in UbuntuColors
[11:14] <mzanetti> lightGrey is 929292
[11:24] <dandrader> tsdgeos, do you know/recall what I have to pass to qmake in qtdeclarative-opensource-src-5.3.0 to have the tests built?
[11:25] <tsdgeos> so it's developer-build on qtbase
[11:25] <tsdgeos> not sure what in qtdeclarative
[11:25] <tsdgeos> dandrader: you can also just go to the folder you want and run qmake
[11:27] <dandrader> tsdgeos, I mean I did "apt-get souece qtdeclarative-opensource-src;mkdir qtdeclarative-build;cd qtdeclarative-build;qmake CONFIG+=debug ../qtdeclarative-opensource-src-5.3.0"
[11:27] <tsdgeos> sure now go to tests and just run qmake there
[11:27] <tsdgeos> or qmake CONFIG+=debug if you want
[11:28] <dandrader> tsdgeos, no tests dir in there http://paste.ubuntu.com/8532319/
[11:28] <tsdgeos> dandrader: you're on the build dir
[11:28] <tsdgeos> you need to run qmake over the source dir
[11:28] <tsdgeos> or do
[11:28] <dandrader> tsdgeos, I remember there was some magic variable I would pass to the qmake command to have the tests built as well
[11:28] <tsdgeos> mkdir test_build
[11:29] <tsdgeos> and run qmake there with ../omething/tests
[11:29] <tsdgeos> dandrader: there probably is
[11:29] <dandrader> tsdgeos, it took me quite a bit of research. but it was a while ago and I didn't write it down. so now I forgot it :/
[11:29] <tsdgeos> dandrader: anything against just running qmake?
[11:30] <tsdgeos> Cimi: your merge is quite weird
[11:30] <tsdgeos> Cimi: shows me changes in .po files
[11:32] <dandrader> tsdgeos, I don't understand how the separate tests build dir would relate to the lib build dir
[11:32] <facundobatista> Holas
[11:32] <dandrader> tsdgeos, but I will try it :)
[11:34] <dandrader> tsdgeos, hmm, kinda works. but it only builds a very small percentage of the tests. it's missing the bulk of it, the so called "private tests"
[11:35] <dandrader> tsdgeos, which are probably the tests that make use of the private apis
[11:35] <dandrader> the search continues....
[11:36] <tsdgeos> dandrader: ah right, add private_tests to CONFIG and you should get them
[11:41] <Cimi> tsdgeos, I redid... maybe was because was based on more things on memory
[11:42] <Cimi> tsdgeos, nope :\
[11:42] <tsdgeos> Cimi: have you really merged unity8 and not some other branch?
[11:42] <Cimi> tsdgeos, how I do now? I download the po for unity8 trunk and overwrite?
[11:42] <tsdgeos> Cimi: just merge unity8 again :d
[11:42] <tsdgeos> or that
[11:43] <Cimi> tsdgeos, nothing to do :D
[11:43] <Cimi> tsdgeos, I try to overwrite
[11:44] <mzanetti> err... why is there an activityIndactor above all tests now?
[11:44] <mzanetti> is that intentional?
[11:47] <tsdgeos> yeah....
[11:47] <tsdgeos> makes them faster
[11:47] <tsdgeos> ....
[11:47] <tsdgeos> :D
[11:47] <dandrader> mzanetti, it's to make waitForRendering(window) pass "immediately"
[11:47] <Cimi> tsdgeos, is fine now!
[11:48] <mzanetti> mhm...
[11:48] <tsdgeos> Cimi: good!
[11:49] <tsdgeos> food
[13:15]  * tsdgeos had an infection of tags
[13:15]  * tsdgeos nukes everything
[13:15] <tsdgeos> careful in case you had been in contact with me branches
[13:24] <Zephyr1139> Has anyone else ever encountered an empty desktop with just a mouse cursor after an install of ubuntu 14.04?
[13:30] <tsdgeos> Saviq: Cimi: so is https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/flickables-speed-workaround/+merge/237944 something we want for rtm or just unity9?
[13:30] <tsdgeos> -1
[13:32] <Cimi> tsdgeos, rtm
[13:32] <tsdgeos> Cimi: it has no critical bug linked
[13:33] <Cimi> tsdgeos, well the toolkit has bug
[13:33] <tsdgeos> well no bug at all
[13:33] <Cimi> tsdgeos, not unity8...
[13:33] <Cimi> tsdgeos, but it won't happen for rtm the toolkit
[13:33] <Cimi> I highly doubt it...
[13:36] <tsdgeos> Cimi: i'd still want a bug attached to it or something for everything we're going to land for rtm tbh
[13:37] <greyback> Zephyr1139: that often means that the unity plugin for compiz failed to start. You'd get more help from the folks in #ubuntu-desktop
[13:37] <Cimi> tsdgeos,  * Are there any related MPs required for this MP to build/function as expected? Please list.
[13:37] <Cimi>  * Did you perform an exploratory manual test run of your code change and any related functionality?
[13:37] <Cimi>  * Did you make sure that your branch does not contain spurious tags?
[13:37] <Cimi>  * If you changed the packaging (debian), did you subscribe the ubuntu-unity team to this MP?
[13:37] <Cimi>  * If you changed the UI, has there been a design review?
[13:37] <Cimi> ops
[13:37] <Cimi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1348557
[13:37] <Cimi> ahaha
[13:39] <Cimi> tsdgeos, if is not rtm, I have to patch few of them...
[13:39] <tsdgeos> Cimi: why added "import Ubuntu.Components 1.1" ?
[13:39] <Cimi> tsdgeos, grid unit
[13:40] <tsdgeos> Cimi: in qml/Dash/ScopesOverviewFavorites.qml ?
[13:40] <tsdgeos> but you're right
[13:40] <tsdgeos> why did it work?
[13:41] <Cimi> tsdgeos, did I forget to add it here?
[13:41] <tsdgeos> no no
[13:41] <tsdgeos> i'm just asking why you added it
[13:41] <tsdgeos> when it wasn't there before
[13:41] <tsdgeos> but it's right that it's weird it did work before
[13:42] <Cimi> tsdgeos, because it gets from the parent probably...
[13:48] <Zephyr1139> greyback, thanks.  I'll ask there too.
[13:55] <tsdgeos> Cimi: so your branch changes some of the defined values, i understand the benefit of having teh same everywhere, but those values maybe were there because they were better? what's your opinion
[13:55] <tsdgeos> ?
[13:55] <Cimi> tsdgeos, because who of us wrote then didn't know they could have done them resolution independent
[13:56] <Cimi> them
[13:56] <Cimi> me included (see carousel)
[14:00] <Cimi> tsdgeos, linked to the bug report
[14:11] <tsdgeos> dednick: can you merge the expanded-panel-design branch?
[14:12] <dednick> tsdgeos: moved back to WIP. there are some problems with it still
[14:13] <tsdgeos> dednick: ok
[14:17] <Saviq> mterry, you know why I had to do more changes to fix the shell PIN test?
[14:17] <mterry> Saviq, I understand that the visuals were messed up, yeah.  I'd like my tap() improvements to eventually make it in, but I'm fine with your branch instead.  As long as the test gets fixed
[14:18] <Saviq> mterry, already in my MP
[14:18] <Saviq> mterry, it's not about the visuals even, it's the fact that it was unreliable still
[14:18] <mterry> Saviq, oh then I didn't understand that.  I ran it a bunch and didn't see a failure
[14:18] <Saviq> mterry, the popup got messed up, so the button inside it was messed up
[14:18] <Saviq> mterry, yeah, well, it worked by chance :)
[14:19] <Saviq> mterry, because the Popup tried to anchor.fill the root element
[14:19] <mterry> Saviq, sure, and it's a row so it can't
[14:19] <Saviq> mterry, but the root element was a Row, that doesn't like anchoring horizontally
[14:19] <mterry> Saviq, but why was it clickable at all?
[14:19] <mterry> Saviq, I ran in xvfbtest mode, so I didn't see what it looked like
[14:20] <Saviq> mterry, well, because it existed, and by chance had some size
[14:20] <Saviq> mterry, in try, if you worked through the test, you could see stuff getting broken
[14:20] <Saviq> mterry, and in test (no xvfb) the window just disappeared when Popup happened
[14:23] <Saviq> jeez what happened with AP? :/
[14:24] <mzanetti> don't act like you'd be surprised :P
[14:24] <Cimi> ahah
[14:32] <Saviq> @unity: I'm prepping a silo for unity8, qtmir, papi (?), let me know if there's anything that's not top-acked that should go in
[14:32] <mzanetti> Saviq: have my launcher-dconf branches?
[14:33] <dandrader> Saviq, are you putting touchOwnership there?
[14:33] <Saviq> dandrader, it's ACK'ed, so yeah
[14:34] <mzanetti> uuhh.. the kraken is about to be relased!
[14:34] <dandrader> you never know, it's a huge one. might have scared you away :)
[14:34] <mzanetti> it should!
[14:34] <mzanetti> :)
[14:34] <dandrader> :)
[14:35] <dandrader> Saviq, release the Kraken!
[14:35] <Saviq> ;)
[14:39] <Saviq> lp:~mterry/unity8/greeter-profiles: 0.1.16
[14:40] <mterry> Saviq, guh
[14:40] <mterry> Saviq, fixed
[14:40] <Saviq> larsu, can you please run http://people.canonical.com/~msawicz/unity8/strip-u8-tags.py on your status-icon branch (and any local checkouts of unity8 you might have)
[14:41] <Saviq> lp:~mterry/unity8/dbus-race-fix: 0.1.16
[14:41] <Saviq> and that's that
[14:41] <mterry> Saviq, did that tag sneak into trunk?  I probably missed it on a merge from trunk
[14:41] <mterry> Saviq, dbus-race-fix tag deleted
[14:42] <larsu> Saviq: can I also just delete the local branches and check them back out?
[14:42] <Saviq> mterry, yeah it did
[14:42] <Saviq> larsu, sure you can :)
[14:42] <Saviq> larsu, but the remote one you need to clear
[14:42] <larsu> Saviq: cool
[14:43] <larsu> Saviq: ah, right
[14:43] <mterry> Saviq, bzr has local hook support, right?  Couldn't we whip up a hook to strip tags on push?
[14:43] <mterry> (for dev local machines)
[14:43] <Saviq> mterry, it doesn't have a push hook
[14:43] <mterry> I realize having jenkins do it is harder
[14:43] <Saviq> mterry, just a commit hook
[14:43] <mterry> Saviq, bummer
[14:44] <Saviq> mterry, but yeah, we have a plan for a pre_push script or so
[14:44] <mterry> Saviq, even so...  the latest version of strip tags is very fast.  I probably wouldn't particular notice if it was in the commit hook
[14:44] <larsu> Saviq: pushing the branch after stripping the tags doesn't seem to work: No new revisions or tags to push.
[14:45] <Saviq> larsu, you need to point the script at the remote branch
[14:45] <Saviq> larsu, bzr doesn't keep history of tags
[14:45] <Saviq> larsu, they're viral
[14:45] <Saviq> which is why we're in this state in the first place :|
[14:46] <larsu> how do I do that?
[14:46] <Saviq> larsu, on the command line
[14:46] <larsu> ah, the script accepts a branch param
[14:46] <Saviq> larsu, yeah, a list
[14:47] <Saviq> larsu, yeah, I know, it should complain if you don't, and it should have a --help, but you know, it was only supposed to live for a week :P
[14:47] <larsu> right
[14:50] <larsu> okay, done.
[14:50] <Saviq> larsu, thanks
[14:51] <Saviq> tsdgeos, we should bump qtmir in https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/qtmir/UbuntuKeyboardInfoQMLSingleton/+merge/236151 should we not? and depend on it in u8?
[14:51] <Saviq> dandrader|afk, when you're back ↑
[14:54] <tsdgeos> Saviq: hmmm
[14:55] <tsdgeos> probably
[14:57] <dandrader> Saviq, ok, will do that now
[14:59] <Saviq> @unity: here's my list, if something's missing please let me know http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8533419/
[15:01] <mzanetti> Saviq: the launcher-dconf one has related in the description... they are not *really* necessary, but would be nice to land together
[15:02] <mterry> Saviq, no greeter-profiles?
[15:02] <Saviq> mterry, just discussing with ted
[15:05] <Saviq> dandrader, sorry, touchOwnership will have to wait for another round, mterry's ↑ branch is ready to go with some indicator changes, and for yours we need to wait for Mir to unblock qtmir
[15:05] <dandrader> Saviq bumped qtmir version as requested
[15:05] <dandrader> Saviq :-(
[15:17] <Saviq> dednick, https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/unity8/lp1336715.server-value-reassert/+merge/237822/comments/583596 please
[15:17] <Saviq> dandrader|afk, and this is fixed by your request, too https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/fix-shellwithpin-test/+merge/237922
[15:17] <dednick> Saviq: you mean in the proposal, or in the code?
[15:17] <Saviq> dednick, code better
[15:18] <Saviq> I knew it
[15:20] <Saviq> dandrader|afk, ah you did abstain
[15:20] <Saviq> as you were, then
[15:22] <dednick> Saviq: done.
[15:23] <Saviq> dednick, thanks
[15:23] <dednick> although my spelling suck. one miunute
[15:23] <dednick> meh
[15:23] <Saviq> dednick, it does ;)
[15:24] <Saviq> dednick, and why 1500, that a magic value that Just Works™? and can't we get a "fuck off" signal from indicators instead and reset the value then?
[15:25] <dednick> Saviq: 1500=magic. and no, it would seem that we can't
[15:25] <dednick> since it's just dbus activations
[15:26] <Saviq> :/
[15:28] <dednick> larsu: is there a hardcoded timeout for unifying the action state change updates into a single signal?
[15:29] <dednick> larsu: re the state change problem we are seeing with activations.
[15:30] <dednick> larsu: as in -> state change true ->false -> true -> false -> true -> false" sends only one signal after x seconds?
[15:53] <Cimi> hey tedg, can you please help us how to change role for audio? comment #4 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1378920
[15:53] <tedg> Cimi, I think rsalveti is the guy you want.
[15:54] <tedg> You tag the stream in GStreamer, but there may be a Qt API for it as well.
[15:54] <rsalveti> yeah, we can do that on Qt or QML
[15:55] <Cimi> rsalveti, how? :)
[15:55] <Cimi> rsalveti, so far, from what I can see in the code, we have just an Audio qml component
[15:55] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: something broke in the launcher quicklist with utf chars
[15:56] <rsalveti> audioRole: MediaPlayer.alert
[15:56] <rsalveti> on the Audio component
[15:56] <rsalveti> we have that on system-settings
[15:56] <tsdgeos> i get CA!mara
[15:56] <tsdgeos> instead of Cámara
[15:56] <mzanetti> hmm
[15:56] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: and idea when it happened?
[15:56] <mzanetti> s/and/any/
[15:56] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: nope :/
[15:56] <mzanetti> ok. will find out
[15:56] <mzanetti> thanks
[15:57] <tedg> tsdgeos, We made camera more exciting by adding !
[15:59] <tedg> mpt, On your high volume mock up have a "headphones" label in the sound indicator, which we don't do today.
[15:59] <tedg> mpt, I mean the label over the slider.
[16:00] <tedg> mpt, I don't see that elsewhere in the spec though
[16:01] <mpt> tedg, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sound#notification
[16:01] <mpt> The visual design and wireframe+text aren’t in sync yet, sorry
[16:02] <tedg> mpt, Yes, I was meaning on the menu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sound?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=sound-settings-volume-high.phone.png
[16:02] <tedg> mpt, Not the notification
[16:02] <mpt> oh, sorry
[16:03] <Cimi> rsalveti, do we patch qt?
[16:03] <mpt> tedg, I’ll need to discuss that with Patti, but tbh that’s a bit down my priority list
[16:04] <tedg> mpt, Oh, wait, is that supposed to be a system settings screenshot?
[16:04] <Cimi> rsalveti, I see this audioRole in system settings, but cannot find the property on qt doc
[16:04] <mpt> tedg, yes, System Settings
[16:05] <mpt> tedg, that’s why it continues onto “Phone calls:…” :-)
[16:05] <tedg> mpt, So then in the indicator we just need the caption, not the lable.
[16:05] <tedg> label
[16:05] <mpt> yep
[16:05] <tedg> mpt, Yeah, just noticed that. :-)
[16:05] <tedg> K, cool.
[17:07] <dednick> larsu: hey. know much about g_dbus_action_group_get ? :)
[17:20] <rsalveti> Cimi: part of qt multimedia
[17:21] <rsalveti> Cimi: if you want to do in qt itself, you can check how that was done in telephony-service
[17:21] <rsalveti> yeah, the api is something we added, not upstream yet


[16:02] <savid> Hi, I'm looking into possibly using upstart to manage my website processes (using nginx + gunicorn), but I don't want to have a separate script for each website.  Is it possible to have a single script manage multiple processes based on a given name?
[16:02] <savid> For example, if my upstart script is called "website",  I would want:  "service website www.example.com start",   and I would want upstart to be able to monitor and respawn that individual process for that website separately.


[02:20] <israel>  Is there any Ubuntu specific documentation for gestures?  Do any of the Ubuntu elements already include gesture support?  Or Do I need a specific GestureArea{} & import?  Is there any sort of documentation about this issue yet?
[02:50] <israel> Does anyone here know if Gestures are included in some of the base Ubuntu Components?  Do we need to include GestureArea for things, or is it built in?  If it is built in which components can take the gestures (i.e. onPinch, etc..)
[02:50] <israel> Also, is there any sort of documentation underway for multitouch gesture integration (or other things like the long Tap)
[06:51] <dholbach> good morning
[06:51] <mihir> renato, ping !
[06:51] <mihir> renato, in EDS , deleting event , do we have an option to delete only single occurrence or whole events ?
[06:52] <mihir> calendar bug #1292076
[06:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1292076 in Ubuntu Calendar App "Delete confirmation while deleting event." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1292076
[08:07] <mihir> balloons, ping
[08:07] <mihir> anyidea , what is reason behind faling this MR ?https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/1292076/+merge/214174
[08:07] <mihir> it says some po files
[08:15] <AskUbuntu> a tool to graphical presentation of codes | http://askubuntu.com/q/443217
[08:37] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday and happy Walk to Work Day! :-D
[08:52] <nik90> t1mp: is zsombi away for the day? I don't see him online
[08:52] <nik90> Good morning everyone
[08:52] <mihir> Good Morning nik90 :)
[08:52] <nik90> mihir: Good morning. I read on g+ that you got your ubuntu membership.
[08:52] <nik90> mihir: congratulations!
[08:53] <mihir> nik90, thanks a lot :)
[08:56] <nik90> charles, renato: Any thoughts on bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1283859 ?
[08:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1283859 in Ubuntu Clock App "Updated recurring alarm values are not reflected in the indicator until phone reboot" [High,Confirmed]
[08:57] <nik90> charles, renato: I talked to zsombi, who tried fixing it on the SDK side, however the fix did not work. He mentioned it might have to do with EDS. Can you confirm and perhaps let me know if we can get a fix before 14.04 release?
[09:00] <t1mp> nik90: I don't know
[09:01] <nik90> t1mp: ok..np. I will wait and see.
[09:09] <mihir> dpm, ping !!
[09:11] <dpm> hi mihir
[09:12] <mihir> dpm, i am confused , but a question  :- If i create recurrent event daily for 30 mins , it should be visible in week view that i have event daily
[09:12] <mihir> am i right
[09:12] <mihir> ?
[09:13] <mihir> but currently if you see, it is visible on the same date only !! i don't this is bug or not
[09:14] <dpm> mihir, in Week view you should see the event repeated each day. That is, you should see a row of events from left to right of the screen, covering each day of the week
[09:14] <dpm> if it's not like that, it's probably a bug
[09:14]  * dpm fires calendar
[09:14] <mihir> could you just test on device and confirm i'll file bug
[09:14] <mihir> i don't know this may be EDS as well  need to confirm with kunal.
[09:18] <dpm> mihir, please file the bug first and then I'll confirm (i.e. don't block on me)
[09:19] <dpm> or someone else can confirm
[09:22] <mihir> dpm, Bug #1302439
[09:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1302439 in Ubuntu Calendar App "Recurrence of event , event bubble is not showing up in week view." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1302439
[09:32] <mihir> how can we pass variable and values to the dialog box ??
[09:32] <mihir> i am trying this but didn't work , PopupUtils.open(deleteDialog,{"isParentId" : true})
[09:39] <dpm> thanks mihir
[10:17] <AskUbuntu> Type in Gujarati using English Keyboard QT | http://askubuntu.com/q/443260
[11:04] <mzanetti> popey: hey, I was just wondering why GetMeWheels is not in the store any more
[11:04] <mzanetti> then I installed the click package manually and turns out that the device doesn't have QtPositioning installed :/
[11:05] <mzanetti> is that intentional?
[11:43] <nik90> dpm: victor replied to your comment in the MR https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/ubuntu-clock-app/fix-1290492-clock/+merge/210321
[11:44] <nik90> dpm: Do we merge what we have got and push the cmake setup to another MP?
[11:48] <dpm> nik90, ok, that sounds good to me
[11:55] <nik90> dpm: thnx
[12:58] <dholbach> In 2m (13 UTC) we're going to have a feedback session about our HTML5 App Dev story on http://ubuntuonair.com/  - just a quick reminder.
[13:03] <dholbach> we're hanging out on #ubuntu-on-air - so feel free to ask your questions there and give your feedback there
[13:04] <dholbach> daker, ^ :)
[13:06] <dholbach> do we have anyone here with feedback or questions about html5 app development?
[13:30] <nik90> fginther: we are having a jenkins issue while merging a branch. output at http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-trusty/1968/console
[13:30] <nik90> fginther: part of MP https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/ubuntu-clock-app/fix-1290492-clock/+merge/210321
[13:47] <fginther> nik90, There was a broken package as a result of apt-get upgrade on the mediumtest server (happens once in a while when on the development release). I've fixed the broken package and have retriggered the build.
[13:48] <nik90> fginther: thnx
[13:49] <daker> dholbach: ouch sorry :( i was distracted by other things
[13:51] <dholbach> daker, don't worry - it's all good - I guess you're in touch with Alex and David all the time anyway ;-)
[14:19] <PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
[14:19] <PaoloRotolo> nik90: ping :)
[14:19] <nik90> PaoloRotolo: hi
[14:19] <PaoloRotolo> nik90: I've just seen your comment on mp :)
[14:19] <PaoloRotolo> nik90: So, if I add that, where will the button go?
[14:19] <nik90> PaoloRotolo: which button?
[14:20] <PaoloRotolo> nik90: first: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/167533223/2014-02-25%2009.45.52.jpg
[14:20] <PaoloRotolo> before*
[14:20] <PaoloRotolo> nik90: after: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/167533223/2014-02-25%2009.45.52.jpg
[14:20] <PaoloRotolo> nik90: there's a switch on the right
[14:21] <nik90> PaoloRotolo: oh yeah remove that switch
[14:21] <nik90> PaoloRotolo: we cannot enable/disable alarms atm due to a bug. So for this cycle, we are removing that switch
[14:22] <elopio> DanChapman, dpm: I'm sorry, I started really late yesterday.
[14:22] <elopio> but now I have a bunch of reviews, can you take a look?
[14:23] <elopio> https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/reminders-app/+branches?field.lifecycle=CURRENT&field.lifecycle-empty-marker=1&field.sort_by=oldest+first&field.sort_by-empty-marker=1
[14:24] <dpm> elopio, thanks! On it
[14:25] <elopio> dpm: I also need somebody to fix this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/reminders-app/+bug/1302287
[14:25] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1302287 in Ubuntu Reminders app "Can't launch reminders app from trunk on the phone" [Undecided,New]
[14:25] <PaoloRotolo> nik90: well right now all timer will be green, right?
[14:25] <nik90> PaoloRotolo: yes
[14:26] <PaoloRotolo> nik90: ok, no problem :)
[14:28] <dpm> elopio, looking...
[14:30] <dpm> mzanetti, hum, bug 1302287 looks a bit strange, there haven't been any recent cmake changes that could have caused this, right?
[14:30] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1302287 in Ubuntu Reminders app "Can't launch reminders app from trunk on the phone" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1302287
[14:31] <dpm> elopio, on this branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/reminders-app/autopilot-start_app/+merge/214154 can you explain to me what the decorators do?
[14:32] <elopio> dpm: sure. They log the name of the method and the parameters that it was called with.
[14:32] <dpm> ok, gotcha, thanks
[14:32] <elopio> we have it precisely to avoid the debug statements inside the methods.
[14:32] <dpm> makes sense
[14:33] <dpm> elopio, and on that same MP:
[14:33] <dpm> 49	+ self.useFixture(fixtures.EnvironmentVariable(
[14:33] <dpm> 50	+ 'QML2_IMPORT_PATH', newvalue='../../src/plugin'))
[14:34] <dpm> this means the cmake build will always need to be done in the source tree to find the built plugin, if I understand it correctly?
[14:34] <elopio> dpm: no, that one doesn't require a build. We just need to add the path where Evernote.qml to the import path.
[14:35] <elopio> otherwise the application fails to load and the window is empty.
[14:36] <dpm> ok
[14:36] <charles> nik90, renato, zsombi, I can confirm I'm seeing bug #1283859 as well. Investigating to see where the bug is...
[14:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1283859 in Ubuntu Clock App "Updated recurring alarm values are not reflected in the indicator until phone reboot" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1283859
[14:37] <charles> s/seeing/still seeing/
[14:37] <elopio> dpm: however, I could not run cmake from a different directory.
[14:37] <elopio> that's why on the README I put cmake .
[14:37] <elopio> is there a better way to build it?
[14:38] <nik90> charles: thnx. Please let us know where the issues lies in so that we can fix it before release.
[14:38] <nik90> charles: when you find it
[14:38] <dpm> elopio, I usually use Qt Creator to do the build, and that builds it in a separate directory for me
[14:39] <nik90> PaoloRotolo: just a note. When you finish the implementation, we will need to modify the AP tests. But rest assured I will do that one for you :)
[14:40] <PaoloRotolo> nik90: thank you :D
[14:40] <dpm> elopio, how do I run AP on that branch? Do I need to pass any arguments? I've just done a local build with cmake . && make
[14:41] <elopio> dpm: the instructions I put on the README should work. Actually, it would be nice if you give them a try
[14:41] <elopio> after make
[14:41] <elopio> cd tests/autopilot
[14:41] <elopio> autopilot run reminders
[14:41] <dpm> elopio, ah, sorry, I did read the README when I did the first review, but I should have paid more attention :)
[14:42] <dpm> trying them now
[14:43] <dpm> elopio, I'm missing a dependency, which package do I need to install? "ImportError: No module named ubuntuuitoolkit"
[14:43] <mzanetti> dpm: re that bug. no, I'm not aware of anything that changed in this regard
[14:44] <elopio> dpm: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-ui-toolkit-autopilot
[14:44] <dpm> ok
[14:57] <nik90> zsombi: quick ping
[14:58] <nik90> zsombi: we have an issue with the clock app where in the tablet form, the switch button is not rendered properly. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1283280
[14:58] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1283280 in Ubuntu Clock App "Switch for “Repeats” in “Edit Alarm” is badly rendered when in tablet mode" [Low,Confirmed]
[15:00] <nik90> zsombi: sorry ignore above bug ^^...I can no longer reproduce it.
[15:01] <dpm> elopio, https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/reminders-app/test_go_to_accounts/+merge/214161/comments/507728
[15:05] <elopio> dpm: where are you running that?
[15:07] <elopio> dpm: that's not the right question. Are you seeing the dialog in the window opened by the test?
[15:07] <elopio> and what version of autopilot do you have installed?
[15:41] <elopio> nik90: this was the last piece of work needed to make the clock tests rock https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/fix1275060-list_view_out_of_view/+merge/210267
[15:41] <elopio> I'll propose a branch to remove a couple of the TODOs I left there.
[15:53] <dpm> elopio, sorry, just got off the phone
[15:54] <dpm> elopio, how do I find out the version of AP I've got? Do you want just the package version?
[15:54] <davmor2> Who works on the weather-app please
[15:55] <dpm> davmor2, that's m-b-o, but he's not online right now. What's up?
[15:55] <dpm> elopio, and to answer the first question, I do see a window popping up before the test fails
[15:56] <elopio> dpm: apt-cache policy python-autopilot
[15:56] <davmor2> dpm: scroll on manta is really slow when you choose a day for weather
[15:56] <elopio> I'm using there a feature that was released last week.
[15:56] <dpm> davmor2, would you mind filing a bug? I don't know off the top of my head what could be causing this
[15:57] <davmor2> dpm: will do I'll get a video of it but I'll be in a meeting in a second so it'll be after that
[15:57] <dpm> elopio, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7203817/
[15:57] <dpm> that'd be perfect, thanks davmor2!
[15:58] <elopio> dpm: that should be a good version. I need some minutes and then I'll be back to you to think what could be going wrong.
[15:59] <elopio> dpm: one more thing, did you cmake . && make on this branch?
[16:03] <dpm> elopio, I had done cmake . && make on the prerequisite branch. I then merged this into that one and ran autopilot. Shall I just check out a clean branch and re-run cmake and build?
[16:03] <elopio> dpm: you should do it again because I added a couple of objectName properties.
[16:03] <dpm> elopio, ok, on it
[16:07] <nik90> elopio: awesome thnx
[16:09] <charles> renato, zsombi, nik90: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1283859/comments/5
[16:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1283859 in Ubuntu Clock App "Updated recurring alarm values are not reflected in the indicator until phone reboot" [High,Confirmed]
[16:10] <dpm> elopio, clean checkout, ran cmake . && make && cd tests/autopilot && autopilot run reminders, got the same failure as above
[16:11] <mhall119> Kaleo: how do I use http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.04/Ubuntu.PerformanceMetrics.PerformanceOverlay/ ?
[16:11] <mhall119> just put it in a MainView or something?
[16:11] <Kaleo> mhall119, actually MainView has it by default
[16:11] <nik90> charles: ah ..so killing and restarting evolution-calendar-factory shows updated values..hmm
[16:11] <renato> charles, no idea what is happening, I can check my code later
[16:12] <nik90> renato: ^^
[16:12] <renato> charles, to see if I am missing something
[16:12] <elopio> dpm: do  you know how to use the autopilot vis?
[16:12] <renato> charles, maybe I need to call some flush function
[16:12] <Kaleo> mhall119, set PERFORMANCE_OVERLAY=1 when running
[16:13] <renato> charles, but I have unit tests for that and is working fine
[16:14] <mhall119> Kaleo: doesn't appear to do anything for me (still on Saucy)
[16:14] <nik90> Kaleo: where do you set PERFORMANCE_OVERLAY=1 ? In the MainView?
[16:14] <Kaleo> nik90, environment variable
[16:15] <dpm> elopio, I've only used it once quite a while ago, but I can give it another go if you tell me what I need to look for
[16:15] <nik90> Kaleo: ah ok
[16:15] <mhall119> Kaleo: just tried PERFORMANCE_OVERLAY=1 qmlscene calendar.qml
[16:15] <elopio> dpm, yes please. Run the application by going to src/app
[16:15] <elopio> ./reminders
[16:15] <dpm> ok
[16:15] <elopio> oh, no, wait, that won't start it with testability.
[16:15] <Kaleo> hang on
[16:16] <elopio> dpm: ./reminerds -testability
[16:16] <dpm> elopio, oh, wait, does it make a difference if I've got an account set up?
[16:16] <elopio> then, on another window autopilot vis
[16:16] <Kaleo> I'm stupid
[16:16] <elopio> dpm: oh, yeah, if you have an account setup you won't get the dialog.
[16:17] <elopio> I haven't finished the code to remove existing accounts.
[16:17] <dpm> ok, will remove the account
[16:17] <Kaleo> mhall119, nik90, once the var is set and you are running, tap 4 times quickly anywhere in the app
[16:17] <mhall119> ah ha!  brilliant!
[16:17] <nik90> Kaleo: awesome that worked
[16:17] <mhall119> Kaleo: when running on a device from qtc, is this parameter set?
[16:18] <Kaleo> mhall119, nope
[16:18] <Kaleo> mhall119, well, maybe :)
[16:18] <Kaleo> mhall119, check with zbenjamin to be sure
[16:18] <dpm> elopio, after disabling the account test passes now :)
[16:18] <elopio> dpm: yes, for now I'm assuming a clean slate.
[16:18] <nik90> Kaleo: is 17ms good while scrolling up/down
[16:18] <nik90> ?
[16:18] <Kaleo> nik90, no :)
[16:18] <elopio> things started getting complicated when trying to add accounts.
[16:19] <mhall119> zbenjamin: is PERFORMANCE_OVERLAY=1 set when running an app on a device from qtc? and if not, can we make that happen (either by default or as another "Run on device with metrics" option?
[16:19] <Kaleo> nik90, everything has to be under 16
[16:19] <charles> renato: I don't know what to think, then. The issue is literally happening outside of the indicator-datetime-service process, so it's not a bug there. And if qtorganizer5-eds is able to confirm that evolution-calendar-factory returns the new values, it's not a bug there
[16:19] <Kaleo> nik90, under 10 is best
[16:19] <nik90> Kaleo: I will report some bug reports to add some labels to the performance overlay like 10ms is Optimum and so on.
[16:19] <nik90> Kaleo: btw I am just using a normal flickable to scroll up/down. and yet it goes to 17ms.
[16:20] <nik90> Kaleo: is it due to the contents in the flickable
[16:20] <Kaleo> nik90, it's already colored for that :)
[16:20] <Kaleo> nik90, is that on the device?
[16:20] <Kaleo> (red is bad)
[16:20] <nik90> Kaleo: no on desktop
[16:20] <Kaleo> nik90, right so that's a quirk of the driver
[16:20] <charles> renato: my first guess is that something's different between production and your tests s.t. the cache in your tests doesn't fall out of sync
[16:20] <Kaleo> nik90, what's your GPU?
[16:20] <renato> charles, could you give me a small binary that prints the recurrence , then I can test it, writing with qorganizer and reading with this binary
[16:20] <charles> renato: The problem with that theory is that I don't see how it would happen :D
[16:21] <nik90> Kaleo: Nvidia 755M
[16:21] <Kaleo> nik90, ok
[16:21] <charles> renato: but I don't see many good alternatives :/
[16:21] <nik90> Kaleo: I will try testing it on device and see what the value there is...pretty nice tool
[16:21] <Kaleo> nik90, try with setting __GL_SYNC_TO_VBLANK=0 as well
[16:21] <charles> renato: would a diff to indicator-datetime that you can run from a terminal be sufficient?
[16:22] <charles> renato: that would be much faster to get to you than a standalone small binary... :)
[16:23] <nik90> Kaleo: still same output, but I think I know why..I have optimus with Nvidia+Intel. So it could be that intel is running atm which makes the outputs the same before and after
[16:23] <Kaleo> nik90, right so
[16:23] <Kaleo> nik90, I thought nVidia did not have the issue, for Intel do:
[16:25] <Kaleo> nik90, vblank_mode=0
[16:28] <nik90> Kaleo: whenever the clock hand moves it goes to 17ms and back to 2ms in idle :)
[16:28] <nik90> Kaleo: same 17ms when swiping to delete, scrolling up/down etc.
[16:28] <Kaleo> nik90, that means bad :)
[16:28] <Kaleo> nik90, still your laptop?
[16:28] <nik90> Kaleo: I should test with a blank app with a simple animation to see how it goes
[16:28] <Kaleo> nik90, yes
[16:28] <nik90> Kaleo: not sure. I have both vblank_mode and _gl_sync_to_vblank set to 0
[16:29] <dpm> elopio, ok, approved your last branch. I've started looking at the issue you had with launching the app, but I seem to now have issues with click-buddy myself: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7203936/
[16:29] <elopio> dpm: I haven't tried click-buddy without the --provision.
[16:30] <dpm> I just wanted to examine the local click package
[16:32] <Elleo> is there anything special needed for snap decisions on UT? We have a notification that shows up fine if it doesn't have a "x-canonical-snap-decisions" hint, but if it does then it never gets displayed (and notify_notification_show() doesn't report an error)
[16:32] <Elleo> however it works fine on the desktop
[16:33] <nik90> Kaleo: yup its my computer or the toolkit :P ... https://imgur.com/FOy50cd .. a simple app with just one listitem. I swipe right to delete it goes to red 17ms :)
[16:33] <dpm> nik90, that sounds like the issue we're having with reminders...
[16:33] <nik90> dpm: the performance issue?
[16:34] <dpm> yep
[16:34] <Kaleo> nik90, hmmm, hard to say
[16:34] <dpm> let me dig out the upstream bug
[16:34] <Kaleo> nik90, best is to check what's going on with the profiler in QtCreator
[16:34] <nik90> Kaleo: I will check on device when I get home hopefully with the performance overlay on by default.
[16:34] <Kaleo> nik90, k
[16:35] <nik90> Kaleo: I will add one manually if run on device script doesnt do it
[16:37] <dpm> nik90, it's a bit of a shot in the dark, as I'm not an expert on this, so I'll just throw this in in case it helps, as it sounds very similar to the issue we're having with reminders: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-37983
[16:40] <nik90> dpm: well in my test example, I had only 1 listitem to test the performance overlay. Also I did not have a listview so I don't think that was the issue. But for the clock app, the bug could be quite detrimental. Hopefully the upstream fix can be backported to 14.04 asap.
[16:50] <charles> renato, nik90, zsombi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1283859/comments/6
[16:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1283859 in Ubuntu Clock App "Updated recurring alarm values are not reflected in the indicator until phone reboot" [High,Confirmed]
[16:52] <zbenjamin> mhall119: that is not set, but we can easily
[16:52] <zbenjamin> mhall119: i can set it per default
[16:52] <nik90> zbenjamin: that would be handy although not by default though
[16:52] <zbenjamin> mhall119: would you file a bug and assign me so i don't forget?
[16:52] <zbenjamin> nik90: hm you will also be able to set it yourself in the runconfiguration
[16:53] <mhall119> Kaleo: any reason not to set PERFORMANCE_OVERLAY=1 by default when running an app on the device via QtCreator?
[16:53] <nik90> zbenjamin: is it possible to add a menu item + shortcut like Ctrl+F13 to do this
[16:53] <mhall119> nik90: you have an F13 key?
[16:53] <zbenjamin> nik90: we are currently in landing phase with the new features, for cmake projects Ctrl+F12 dies, only the green arrow
[16:53] <nik90> mhall119: lol I am an idiot sry :P
[16:53] <nik90> zbenjamin: scratch my last statement
[16:53] <mhall119> zbenjamin: what do you mean ctrl+F12 dies?
[16:54] <zbenjamin> mhall119: that means that you will be able to run and debug apps on the device just by pressing the green arrows
[16:54] <mhall119> zbenjamin: how do yourun and debug apps locally then?
[16:54] <nik90> zbenjamin: so how does it know if to run it on device or locally?
[16:55] <zbenjamin> mhall119: nik90: well in QtC there are Kits, a Kit combines a QtVersion with a Device and a Toolchain, you will be able to select the Kit
[16:55] <mhall119> zbenjamin: and will "run locally with system installed library" be a Kit then?
[16:55] <zbenjamin> mhall119: right over the arrows there is a small computer symbol that says desktop, there you can change it
[16:56] <Kaleo> mhall119, nope, it's a good idea
[16:56] <nik90> zbenjamin: cool
[16:56] <zbenjamin> mhall119: that will be the Desktop kit
[16:56] <zbenjamin> mhall119: nik90 http://qt-project.org/doc/qtcreator-3.0/creator-configuring-projects.html
[16:56] <zbenjamin> http://qt-project.org/doc/qtcreator-3.0/creator-glossary.html#glossary-buildandrun-kit
[16:57] <mhall119> zbenjamin: ah, ok
[16:57] <mhall119> makes sense
[16:57] <mhall119> so we can toggle from there between running on the local desktop, running on a device over usb, or running in an emulator?
[16:57] <zbenjamin> mhall119: you soon will be able to have a configuration for device, emulator and desktop and just switch between them #
[16:57] <zbenjamin> exactly
[16:57] <mhall119> ok, +1 then on doing away with ctrl+F12
[16:57] <zbenjamin> one click only :)
[16:58] <zbenjamin> mhall119: thats why it took me some time to implement it, lots of code almost 9000 lines patch
[17:00] <zbenjamin> mhall119: nik90: and you also get C++ debug on the device, QML debug on the device and QML profiling on the device ;)
[17:01] <mhall119> why can I never assign bugs to people in lp:qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu?
[17:01] <mhall119> zbenjamin: https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/+bug/1302713
[17:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1302713 in qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu "Set PERFORMANCE_OVERLAY=1 when running an app on a device to help debugging" [Undecided,New]
[17:02] <mhall119> actually, probably s/on a device//
[17:02] <zbenjamin> mhall119: i'll look at that once the new plugin has landed, however you will be able to set it yourself as well in your runconfiguration. At least for cmake based projects
[17:03] <zbenjamin> but i'm sure we can add a checkbox or something like that :)
[17:33] <mihir> renato, ping
[17:33] <davmor2> mhall119: dpm seems to of disappeared can you have a quick look at this please https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bug/1302728
[17:33] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1302728 in Ubuntu Weather App "extremely slow scrolling between days on manta" [Undecided,New]
[17:33] <renato> mihir, hi
[17:34] <mihir> hey renato
[17:35] <mhall119> davmor2: I have no manta
[17:35] <mihir> renato, need your inputs https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/1292076/+merge/214174
[17:35] <mhall119> also, you get a big :( for .mov files
[17:35] <mihir> deleting event , with single occurrence or multiple occurrence
[17:36] <davmor2> mhall119: it's what my camera records :P
[17:36] <mhall119> davmor2: your camera hates freedom
[17:36] <mihir> tried to get parent id event.parentId but it didn't work
[17:36] <renato> mihir, tha main event does not have parent id because it is already the parent
[17:36] <davmor2> mhall119: It's a panasonic Lumix of course it hates freedom on a plus side it takes very nice photos :)
[17:37] <renato> try get the parent id of a event after that
[17:37] <mihir> but when i try to delete an event with , event.itemId it gives me error
[17:37] <renato> which error?
[17:37] <davmor2> mhall119: right click on the link copy link location and then open it in vlc streaming media
[17:37] <renato> if this is the parent event this will delete all events
[17:38] <mhall119> davmor2: got it, and yeah that is slow
[17:38] <mhall119> davmor2: is it like that everywhere,or just manta?
[17:38] <mihir> renato, https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/1292076/+merge/214174/comments/507524
[17:38] <davmor2> mhall119: I only see that display on manta should it work on n7?
[17:39] <mihir> considering  just an event , deleting an event with itemId is giving me this error in console.
[17:39] <mhall119> davmor2: probably not
[17:39] <mhall119> davmor2: on my laptop it's super-fast scrolling though
[17:39] <mhall119> so I suspect something may be off with the animations timer on manta
[17:40] <davmor2> mhall119: no I get phone view on n7
[17:40] <davmor2> mhall119: so it might be either a mir issue or and issue in rendering on the tablet then right?
[17:41] <mhall119> davmor2: right
[17:41] <mhall119> davmor2: you can try enabling the performance overlay and see if it's slamming the GPU or not
[17:41] <renato> mihir, ok, I do not have removeById implemented yet could you create a bug for that
[17:42] <renato> mihir, meanwhile you can use  eventModel.removeItem(event);
[17:42] <renato> this should works
[17:42] <mhall119> davmor2: that might at least tell you if it's a mir or driver issue, as opposed to an animation timer config issue
[17:42] <mihir> renato, yeah was using the same, but in this case, if the event has multiple occurrence  then it will delete whole event correct?
[17:43] <davmor2> mhall119: right are there some steps for doing that somewhere
[17:43] <mihir> renato, yup that works , but it delete whole event
[17:43] <renato> if this event is the parent event yes
[17:43] <nik90> kalikiana: I noticed that your https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/windowTitle/+merge/212881 got merged. However when I open the clock app, it shows com.ubuntu.clock instead of "Clock"
[17:44] <mihir> but if this is next occurrence it won't delete whole event?
[17:44] <nik90> kalikiana: Am I supposed to add a variable or something somewhere in the mainView?
[17:44] <mhall119> davmor2: https://plus.google.com/u/0/109919666334513536939/posts/WTCa45Xg4nG
[17:44] <davmor2> mhall119: ta I'll have a look in a minute got a couple of other things to hit first
[17:48] <mihir> renato, bug 1302738
[17:48] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1302738 in qtorganizer5-eds (Ubuntu) "Unable to remove event using event ItemID OR parentId" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1302738
[17:48] <mihir> popey, ping
[17:48] <renato> mihir, ok thanks
[17:49] <mihir> renato, possibility to land it before this release?
[17:49] <mihir> any*
[17:50] <renato> mihir, I will work on that next week
[17:50] <renato> I am very busy right now
[17:50] <mihir> renato, okay thank you.
[17:50] <renato> sorry
[17:50] <mihir> no issues.
[17:51] <kalikiana> nik90: it picks up the title from the active page - there's one case that won't work yet because it depends on another branch, which is if you use Tabs
[17:52] <nik90> kalikiana: ah okay..yeah I was testing with tabs
[18:01] <davmor2> mhall119: so should the top one just be constantly Orange?
[18:01] <mhall119> davmor2: no
[18:01] <mhall119> orange == suboptimal
[18:01] <mhall119> red = very bad
[18:01] <davmor2> mhall119: the bottom one hit about 50%
[18:02] <davmor2> mhall119: the top one with 10/16ms is just orange let me grab a screenshot
[18:05] <mhall119> davmor2: sounds like it might be a mir/driver issue then
[18:05] <mhall119> it's not great on the desktop, but it's still mostly green
[18:07] <davmor2> mhall119: okay so I might not take a screenshot
[18:08] <mhall119> davmor2: you can record another freedom-hating video
[18:09] <mhall119> and attach it also to the bug report
[18:09] <davmor2> mhall119: no I don't want to :P
[18:10] <davmor2> mhall119: so apparently neither of the screenshot tools I have work on manta
[18:11] <t1mp> nik90: you can give your Page a title and that will be used as the window title
[18:11] <t1mp> nik90: this MR is still in the landing queue, if you don't set the Page title it will automatically take it from the Tab https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/optIn-tabsDrawer/+merge/212496 line 98
[18:12] <nik90> t1mp: ah...yeah I noticed I gave the tabs the title but not the page.
[18:12] <nik90> t1mp: Should an app developer be naming both the tabs and the page?
[18:12] <nik90> t1mp: I am referring to page that are inside a tab and not the ones that get pushed into a pagestack.
[18:13] <t1mp> nik90: no, they don't need. if the page has no title, the tab title will be used.
[18:13] <t1mp> nik90: but if you want the window title to differ from the Tab title then you should give the Page a title
[18:14] <nik90> t1mp: ok..btw is your tabs drawer making it to the 14.04 release?
[18:14] <t1mp> nik90: just for now, until my optIn-tabsDrawer MR lands, the Page doesn't automatically get the title from the Tab yet
[18:14] <t1mp> nik90: nope
[18:14] <nik90> t1mp: ah okay..got excited for a second there
[18:14] <t1mp> nik90: well we may land it this month.. I surely hope so
[18:14] <nik90> t1mp: ok, in that case, I will patch clock app with the page title so that the window title is correct
[18:15] <t1mp> nik90: but as the branch name says, it will be opt-in, so apps will by default use the "old" tabs
[18:15] <t1mp> nik90: and for now with the new tabs you will not have toolbar anymore. so until the actions are in the new header you'll probably lack some functionality
[18:16] <nik90> t1mp: pretty exciting times..April-May will be christmas :D
[18:17] <t1mp> heheh
[18:17] <t1mp> in that case I should not be telling you what you will get, it should be a surprise :)
[18:17] <nik90> lol...you are right :)
[18:29] <davmor2> mhall119: freedom loving video added to bug
[18:36] <mhall119> downloading
[18:36] <mhall119> ouch, yeah,that's bad
[18:36] <mhall119> m-b-o confirms it on the N4 too
[18:37] <mhall119> so must be mir or qt
[18:37] <mhall119> maybe not
[18:40] <mhall119> my graph stays almost completely green doing what m-b-o said to trigger it on the N4
[18:54] <qtros> nik90 ping
[18:58] <mhall119> hey qtros, I'm getting a lot of 429 error codes from TwimGo
[18:58] <mhall119> is that the issue you were having before?
[18:58] <qtros> mhall119 hello! I never seen it before while test it, let me see...
[18:59] <qtros> mhall119 ahh... maybe I know - please, open settings
[18:59] <qtros> mhall119 in the bottom you will see "remaining api hits <count>"
[19:00] <qtros> mhall119 if count == 0 then you shall wait a little =\
[19:00] <mhall119> qtros: ah, yes
[19:00] <qtros> mhall119 limitation of Twitter API
[19:00] <mhall119> the log confirms it too: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7204537/
[19:00] <mhall119> qtros: is that limit per-person, or per-app?
[19:00] <qtros> mhall119 I only ported it as you may know, maybe later I can rewrite it to use stream API (or something like that, don't remember exact name)
[19:01] <mhall119> ok
[19:01] <mhall119> it's a fantastic twitter app otherwise
[19:01] <qtros> mhall119 per person (token) of course, will be reset after15 mins
[19:01] <qtros> mhall119 my impressions were exactly like yours! And that code was forgotten :)
[19:02] <qtros> mhall119 We can develop new design with the community :)
[19:02] <qtros> mhall119 but after the end of competition of course :)
[19:03] <qtros> mhall119 I hope you understand me :)
[19:03] <mhall119> of course
[19:04] <qtros> mhall119 pure (QML+JS)-written Twitter client
[19:05] <qtros> mhall119 I was really happy when found it
[19:08] <qtros> mhall119 "Share Location" will work later, I think
[19:10] <qtros> mhall119 was disabled by because of beta version :)
[19:12] <qtros> mhall119 But some features are to go - followers, for example. You can see button, but it does nothing for now :( And so on...
[19:13] <mhall119> hooking it into Ubuntu.OnlineAccounts would be nice too, but we need to wait for the trusted helpers to land for that
[19:34] <nik90> qtros: pong
[20:00] <qtros> nik90 hello! I want to ask you about sync in U1DB
[20:00] <qtros> nik90 is it possible at the current moment? :)
[20:00] <nik90> qtros: you mean online sync across devices?
[20:01] <qtros> nik90 yep
[20:01] <nik90> qtros: Online sync is being planned for 14.10. At the moment we are focussing on more basic features like sorting, filtering and so on.
[20:02] <nik90> qtros: however it should hopefully be simple enough to use when that feature lands.
[20:02] <qtros> nik90 okay... But w8, Ubuntu One is closed, how will U1DB perform sync?
[20:02] <nik90> qtros: I believe basic sync capability is already there. However it sync to a specific IP address. We still need to integrate ubuntu one accounts for that.
[20:03] <nik90> qtros: I am not sure. I need to check that with the developers.
[20:03] <nik90> qtros: I was planning to ask that but it slipped my mind
[20:04] <qtros> nik90 ok :) I am core am developer (Shorts), and we have sync in our blueprints... so will be idle for now :)
[20:04] <nik90> qtros: yeah that's true. But have you guys transitioned to using U1db for local storage?
[20:05] <nik90> I guess that's the first step
[20:05] <nik90> qtros: I am the core app developer for clock app and I now use u1db for local storage. It is pretty sweet and simple over LocalStorage.
[20:06] <qtros> nik90 currently we already using u1db for settings. We can't use it for articles because of complexity of our database
[20:07] <qtros> nik90 but we can put simple information (such as feed's urls) to u1db too and sync it
[20:07] <nik90> qtros: recently (a month ago) U1db got a ton of fixes for complex databases. But I think they haven't been pushed to the phone yet. I think 14.10 will be a very nice cycle for u1db
[20:07] <qtros> nik90 and continue using of LocalStorage for big amounts of data (separate articles, tags and their relations)
[20:08] <nik90> qtros: yeah storing feed url is a perfect usecase for u1db. Watch out for u1db in the next cycle.
[20:09] <qtros> nik90 ok, thanks! :) So I can focus on my Twitter client for now \o/
[20:09] <nik90> qtros: yup indeed
[20:18] <t1mp> as far as I know, U1db will keep working as it did before
[21:47] <nik90> Anybody know how to implement a circular progress bar in QML? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22873550/how-to-create-a-circular-progress-bar-in-pure-qmljs


[19:26] <benji> Shelbyville, TN checking in
[20:48] <Unit193> \o/
[20:48] <Unit193> Howdy.
[20:58] <cyberanger> Hey benji
[20:59] <cyberanger> I'm on the other side of the state in the Metro Knoxville area.
[21:02] <benji> o/