[00:00] <Kuwanger> xb3rt: Then you can alias "sudo your_script" and it won't require a password.
[00:00] <Kuwanger> xb3rt: That's the safest approach.
[00:00] <zylstra555> nickrud: Thakns, rebooting right now.
[00:00] <zylstra555> *Thanks
[00:00] <Teoz> anyone know the name of the SSH connection that lets you see the actual screen of the server machine as well as have mouse control
[00:01] <Odd-rationale> !ssh | Teoz
[00:01] <ubotu> Teoz: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[00:01] <ares-mars> hello, can anyone point me to a guide to getting my verizon wireless broadband working in ubuntu?
[00:01] <justin1990> hey guys, does anybody have eyperience with gOS ?
[00:01] <Odd-rationale> Teoz: The first link given by ubotu has what you are looking for
[00:01] <justin1990> http://www.thinkgos.com/
[00:01] <Teoz> thanks guys :) !
[00:01] <Odd-rationale> justin1990: I tried the first version. I havent downloaded the "rocket" vversion
[00:02] <bazhang> justin1990: sure; but not supported here; better to get the real deal @ www.ubuntu.com
[00:02] <Stepa1> I am having a huge problem with my keyboard.  It locks up, blicks lights, and does not work from time to time.    Can anyone help?  I would think its a virus, but linux doesnt have those. ;-)
[00:02] <justin1990> i have ubuntu 7.10
[00:02] <justin1990> but i thought this gOS is something like a desktop theme
[00:02] <Kuwanger> Stepa1: Not to be overly pessimistic, but it might be dying.
[00:02] <Odd-rationale> justin1990: No it is a dsitor based on ubutnu.
[00:02] <wers> how do I use hardy's human theme for my gutsy?
[00:03] <Kuwanger> Stepa1: My keyboard did something similar before it ended up dying.
[00:03] <justin1990> so...can i install gOS ?
[00:03] <__mikem> its a distro, not a dsitor
[00:03] <thesurvivorman> with enlightenment installed too i think.
[00:03] <Odd-rationale> justin1990: You can add the gOS repo and install green-desktop to get gos on top of ubuntu
[00:03] <justin1990> ah ok
[00:03] <bazhang> justin1990: sure; but then support here goes bye-bye ;]
[00:03] <justin1990> lol
[00:03] <Stepa1> Kuwanger: i would think so too, but it works good most of the time, but just when i need it most, its gone.
[00:03] <Kuwanger> Stepa1: Yep, something similar with me.  How old is the keyboard?
[00:04] <Exfil> Im having a virtual host problem and looking for some help... im on ubuntu 7.1 running apache2.. i have the default sites-available file setup for 3 virtual hosts 2 of them work but one of them just brings me to the first domain
[00:04] <Stepa1> Kuwanger: it just happened again, but i got it.  a couple of years, but never one problem
[00:04] <px> what package is dig in?
[00:05] <Stepa1> Kuwanger: after a reboot it doesnt give me any prob either
[00:05] <Kuwanger> Stepa1: Hmm..well, I don't know of anything else that could be causing it.  Of course, if the keyboard is dying, it'll eventually be dead for good and you'll know that that was the problem. Other than that, I don't know what to recommend.
[00:05] <georgy_28> px :dnsutils
[00:05] <px> georgy_28: thax!
[00:05] <pharoh> bazhang:how long is it supposed to take?coz my shell is jus idle en there's a blue and gray page saying configuring java6-bin with some notes following
[00:05] <Stepa1> Kuwanger: okay, i guess its time for a new one
[00:06] <Stepa1> Kuwanger: thanks, good day to you
[00:06] <Teoz> apparently,  pita@pita:~$ firefox              (firefox-bin:23673): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[00:06] <thesurvivorman> click ok
[00:06] <bazhang> pharoh: you need to tab the agreement
[00:06] <Kuwanger> Stepa1: Or, just wait until it dies for good..which might never happen. :)
[00:06] <thesurvivorman> and then you'll need to hit yes on another screen i think
[00:06] <pharoh> bazhang:i jus press tab?
[00:07] <Teoz> what doe sit mean when the putty client returns Gtk-WARNING**. cannot open display ?
[00:07] <thesurvivorman> make sure the ok is red highlighted and hit enter
[00:07] <bazhang> pharoh: tab to the agree/ok and then hit enter
[00:07] <pharoh> bazhang:oh...lol
[00:08] <Kuwanger> Teoz: Looked into krdc?
[00:08] <Kuwanger> Grr..meant krfb
[00:09] <nyarly_> neone know of an easy way to convert an mp4 video to divx-avi?
[00:09] <Kuwanger> nyarly_: mencoder
[00:10] <nyarly_> thanks
[00:10] <Kuwanger> nyarly_: Wait..by mp4 do you mean avm/mtv?
[00:10] <Grinder> hey
[00:10] <Grinder> got it to work
[00:10] <Grinder> woot
[00:10] <nyarly_> Kuwanger, i mean a .mp4 file
[00:10] <Grinder> 7.10 is installed. now how do i install flash player?
[00:10] <Kuwanger> nyarly_: Uh huh..
[00:11] <Kuwanger> nyarly_: That doesn't really answer the question. :)
[00:11] <Grinder> and wow 7.10 is sexy
[00:11] <nyarly_> lol
[00:11] <rumplesmigskin> grinder: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:12] <Grinder> thank you
[00:12] <Kuwanger> nyarly_: Try running "file video.mp4" on the video.
[00:12] <rumplesmigskin> grinder: If you generally want to look for something, use aptitude search <string> and it'll spit back a list of packages that match your criteria
[00:12] <Grinder> ahh ok
[00:12] <Grinder> so how do i install
[00:13] <Grinder> ooo
[00:13] <Grinder> i got music
[00:13] <Grinder> nmuahahah
[00:13] <Grinder> im a bit drunk sorry
[00:13] <techqbert> nickrud: ah
[00:13] <rumplesmigskin> audacious ftw tbh
[00:14] <Grinder> how do i install flash player?
[00:14] <xb3rt> Grinder: try sudo apt-get install flash
[00:14] <Grinder> kk
[00:14] <Grinder> so
[00:14] <Grinder> sudo is like a master command?
[00:14] <nyarly_> Kuwanger, it's a ISO MEDIA, MPEG v4 system, version 2
[00:14] <xb3rt> Grinder: It should list the available packages
[00:14] <Positronic> Hey, I have a Firefox 3b4 flash question: I had flash working in FF2, and flashplugin-nonfree is installed, but for some reason flash is not working?
[00:15] <Grinder>  sudo apt-get install flash
[00:15] <xb3rt> Grinder: sudo is used to run a command with root priveledges
[00:15] <Kuwanger> nyarly_: Okay, that's a proper mpeg4 file and mencoder will work with it.  Install mencoder.
[00:15] <Grinder> ahh ok
[00:15] <Grinder> i got a error
[00:15] <nyarly_> Kuwanger, got it thanks
[00:15] <Kuwanger> xb3rt: So, how's your script going?
[00:15] <rumplesmigskin> Yes, flash isn't a package name. Try flashplugin-nonfree instead.
[00:16] <Grinder> Reading package lists... Done
[00:16] <Grinder> Building dependency tree
[00:16] <Grinder> Reading state information... Done
[00:16] <Grinder> E: Couldn't find package flash
[00:16] <sarixe> hi, when i try to play videos, in any player, gstreamer, xine, anything, the colors are messed up.  i believe it may be missing a color channel, but i'm not sure.  any help?
[00:16] <Exfil> dont post like that
[00:16] <xb3rt> Kuwanger: it works, but now i want to append the command 'sudo apt-get install -f' to the same alias
[00:16] <Grinder> I KNOW.
[00:16] <snowolf> sarixe: tried to restart X11?
[00:16] <Exfil> ok
[00:16] <sarixe> h/o
[00:16] <Kuwanger> sarixe: Messed up in what way?
[00:16] <sarixe> eh, colors are completely off
[00:16] <xb3rt> Kuwanger: What would the delimeters be to use multiple commands.
[00:16] <Kuwanger> xb3rt: Hmm?
[00:16] <nael> sarixe, have you tried using VLC?
[00:16] <sarixe> like, what should be skin-colored, is blue
[00:16] <sarixe> yes, vlc does the same
[00:17] <xb3rt> Kuwanger: Space, or pipe?
[00:17] <Kuwanger> sarixe: The hue setting is proper off.
[00:17] <Kuwanger> sarixe: err, probably off
[00:17] <mendel> hi -- i was about to install mod_security for apache in hardy, but it seems to have disappeared from the repositories as of edgy. Strangely I can't find anyone talking about this. Any idea what's up with that?
[00:17] <sarixe> tried messing with the hue setting in totem, no effect
[00:17] <snowolf> sarixe: try with a x11 restart, I do experience the same problem from time to time (well my output is green with noises, audio fine) but usually a x11 restart solves it
[00:18] <sarixe> ok, i'll try that
[00:18] <nael> sarixe, is it all videos or just the one that is causing the problem?
[00:18] <sarixe> all vids
[00:18] <Kuwanger> xb3rt: You can use && to append commands together.
[00:18] <sarixe> brb
[00:18] <rumplesmigskin> sarixe: By any chance, are you using fglrx? I've had that problem before and didn't know how to fix it.
[00:18] <iKap> my pidgin wont connect :(
[00:18] <snowolf> I recall of having found a workaround, but I forgot it and now switched back to the old ctrl alt backspace
[00:18] <sarixe> eh, no.  nvidia
[00:18] <sarixe> brb
[00:18] <Grinder> mine wotnt start iKap
[00:18] <Grinder> lol
[00:18] <Kuwanger> xb3rt: What exactly are you going for?
[00:18] <xb3rt> Kuwanger: So it'd be something like alias up='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f'
[00:18] <iKap> Grinder, is pidgin experiencing probs? or is it just me?
[00:19] <Grinder> i was just on it well i swore.... lol... but im drunk. what does a drunk know
[00:19] <Grinder> iKap, I have no idea. hemm i drunk
[00:19] <iKap> lol
[00:19] <Grinder> iKap, it wont start for me.
[00:19] <Kuwanger> xb3rt: Are you planning on passing an arg to the second command?
[00:19] <xb3rt> Kuwanger: no
[00:19] <Grinder> all, how do i install flash?
[00:20] <Kuwanger> xb3rt: Okay..  Then, why not have both commands in a script?
[00:20] <nickrud> Grinder  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:20] <xb3rt> Grinder: did you try what I said, 'sudo apt-get install flash
[00:20] <Grinder> yes
[00:20] <Grinder> didnt work
[00:20] <nickrud> xb3rt that
[00:20] <nickrud> is not the packagename, flashplugin-nonfree is
[00:20] <Grinder> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:20] <Grinder> Reading package lists... Done
[00:20] <Grinder> Building dependency tree
[00:20] <Grinder> Reading state information... Done
[00:20] <Grinder> Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[00:20] <Grinder> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[00:20] <FloodBot2> Grinder: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:20] <xb3rt> Kuwanger: so, basically i should just make a script, and use it like an alias
[00:20] <Grinder> is only available from another source
[00:21] <Kuwanger> xb3rt: If both commands are in a script, then running the script with sudo will mean both will be run as root intrinsically.
[00:21] <nickrud> Grinder don't do that anymore.  The command you want is  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:22] <xb3rt> Kuwanger: I know that, but don't i have to be in the directory containing the sciprt
[00:22] <nickrud> Grinder if that doesn't work, let me know. You may need to enable some software sources
[00:22] <Kuwanger> xb3rt: Ie, you'd only have to answer the password once, or with a proper visudo setup, not at all.
[00:22] <Grinder> kk
[00:22] <Grinder> well
[00:22] <Grinder> let me know
[00:22] <nickrud> !enter | Grinder
[00:22] <ubotu> Grinder: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:22] <Grinder>  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree is what i used
[00:22] <Kuwanger> xb3rt: alias up="${HOME}/local_bin/script.sh"
[00:22] <Y1MMMY> wat up alllllllllllllll
[00:22] <sarixe> yeah, it turned out to be the hue... tried it one more time, and it worked
[00:22] <nickrud> !gutsysources | Grinder then do this, and try again:
[00:22] <ubotu> Grinder then do this, and try again:: gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).
[00:22] <xb3rt> Kuwanger: Gotchya
[00:23] <sarixe> thanks whoever said it was the hue
[00:23] <Kuwanger> xb3rt: Hmm..actually.. "alias up=sudo ${HOME}/local/bin/script.sh"
[00:23] <jaffarkelshac> xb3rt, how do you clear aliases
[00:23] <Kuwanger> sarixe: I had the same problem when I switched video cards. :)
[00:23] <xb3rt> jaffarkelshac: unalais
[00:23] <sarixe> mm
[00:23] <sarixe> well gtg now... watching a vid, obv
[00:23] <sarixe> thanks again
[00:23] <xb3rt> jaffarkelshac: unalias
[00:24] <jaffarkelshac> xb3rt, thats such a nice shortcut
[00:24] <Smegzor> I seem to have lost all references to sharing folders in my gnome menu.  I did rename .gnome2 to try to fix some issues.  Could that have caused the share menu items to disappear?  How do I get them back?
[00:24] <xb3rt> jaffarkelshac: it sure is
[00:24] <jaffarkelshac> xb3rt, any other useful tips
[00:25] <xb3rt> jaffarkelshac: Dont do drugs, stay in school, and respect your grandma.
[00:25] <Kuwanger> xb3rt: Don't forget, "if in doubt, quote".
[00:25] <jaffarkelshac> xb3rt, haha i am anti-drugs finished school, dead grandma but thanks
[00:26] <bazhang> and the trusty 'offtopic'
[00:26] <gverig> Can anybody recommend GUI directory comparison tool? I have Meld but it doesn't have too many options.
[00:27] <Mezriss> greetings. is anyone here using Zend Studio 5.5.1 ? I've experienced some problems with it
[00:27] <themoebius> hey guys, I'm having a problem with an app I'm developing and it has a bug where it starts taking 100% of my CPU. The problem is I can't debug it because my system slows down to the point where I can't even close the app
[00:28] <zcat[1]> themoebius: ulimit
[00:29] <zcat[1]> !ulimit
[00:29] <zcat[1]> !botsnack
[00:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ulimit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:29] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[00:29] <snowolf> lol
[00:29] <zcat[1]> slow..
[00:29] <pharoh> bazhang: hey is this the right way to install emerald:sudo apt-get install emerald? en how do i get it up en running?
[00:30] <Odd-rationale> pharoh: to run: alt+f2 "emerald --replace"
[00:30] <jhoniji1> drugs are good
[00:31] <nico_> hola/hello/bonjour
[00:32] <rama_su> In Ubuntu when I click the keyboard button Prt Scn  (print screen) what program can I copy that too so I can make images?
[00:33] <BalaamsMiracle> rama_su: Did you press the print screen button yet?
[00:33] <rama_su> yep I did
[00:33] <rama_su> BalaamsMiracle: yep I did
[00:34] <BalaamsMiracle> Then you should now see a dialog asking you where you'd like to store the screenshot.
[00:34] <themoebius> how can i launch a process and ensure that it doesn't use more than a certain percent of my CPU or make it have a low priority?
[00:34] <pharoh> bazhang:ok i did that and now all the toolbars on the windows have vanished...how do i get the emerald "thingy" so i can select a theme?
[00:35] <BalaamsMiracle> themoebius: Try reading man nice
[00:35] <rama_su> BalaamsMiracle: I must of done somthing wrong I don't get one...
[00:35] <rama_su> This is probaly the easiest function in Ubuntu too isn't it lol
[00:35] <WelshDragon> Hey, i need some help. Ubuntu server 6.06. Load average is just going up and up and up...It's at 40 at the moment. CPU usage is 0. Any ideas? Besides reboot?
[00:35] <BalaamsMiracle> rama_su: Are you using Ubuntu, Kubuntu or Xubuntu?
[00:35] <rumplesmigskin> rama_su: You could try using scrot
[00:36] <rama_su> Yea I'm using Ubuntu 7.10
[00:36] <pharoh> Odd-rationale:hey i did that,now all my toolbars have vanished,how can i get the emerald theme selector?
[00:36] <rama_su> I've just made the switch so it probably works I'm just missing something.
[00:36] <ricanelite> restartx
[00:37] <Odd-rationale> pharoh: you mean your window borders?
[00:37] <ricanelite> restartx and see what happens pharoh
[00:37] <BalaamsMiracle> rama_su: Then it is supposed to work just fine. I have no idea why it doesn't work for you.
[00:37] <pharoh> Odd-rationale:yeap.
[00:37] <ricanelite> cause when i lost my tool bars and restartedx it came back
[00:37] <pharoh> ricanelite: ok.
[00:38] <Odd-rationale> pharoh: see if metacity --replace gets them back
[00:38] <rama_su> ahh I see what the problem is Balaams
[00:38] <rama_su> it doesn't work if I'm hoovering my mouse over the menu
[00:38] <WelshDragon> Hey, i need some help please. Ubuntu server 6.06. Load average is just going up and up and up...It's at 40 at the moment. CPU usage is 0. Any ideas? Besides reboot?
[00:38] <ricanelite> is there a tv turner card on usb that will work with linux>
[00:39] <LjL> !tv | ricanelite
[00:39] <ubotu> ricanelite: http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[00:39] <BalaamsMiracle> rama_su: LOL! I never thought of that possibility. Ah well, i glad there's no real problem anyway :-)
[00:39] <rama_su> haha yea thanks for the help I'll have to find a different way
[00:42] <ricanelite> LjL: is there a usb device you could suggest? Cause I will love to use Mythtv
[00:42] <HITMark> is there anyone that can help me with Ubuntu 7.10 install problems? im about to lose my flippin mind
[00:43] <pharoh> how do i get the emerald theme selector?my boarders are back after restarting X.
[00:43] <rumplesmigskin> What kind of problems?
[00:43] <SeaPhor> more specific, halucenations?
[00:43] <rama_su> It's tough at first HITmark I just started yesterday but once you get through it its so worth it.
[00:43] <LjL> ricanelite, no, mine was about the worst thing i could buy. asking in #linuxtv should be useful (although anyway, the site itself does state compatibility in detail)
[00:43] <SeaPhor> *hallucinations?
[00:43] <Odd-rationale> pharoh: system --> pref --> emerald theme manager ?
[00:44] <fismoll8> hey guys...I am importing my desktop settings from a primary linux box to a secondary one. I transferred /home/bobo from the primary to the secondary, set up all the permissions and proper owners (secondary box only has one user, user bobo) then tried restarting gdm. It crashed. I have tried to start gdm a number of times; after I enter in my password, it seems like it's going to start....get an hourglass and everything...but then, no desktop. Anyo
[00:44] <ricanelite> ok thanks
[00:44] <HITMark> i cant install it at all. after "Starting Gnome Desktop environment" the screen goes black, like the process just stopped
[00:44] <Chris|> anyone bought a dell laptop with ubuntu?
[00:44] <pharoh> Odd-rationale:ha ha ha..thanks.dint see that
[00:44] <Odd-rationale> pharoh: np
[00:45] <SeaPhor> HITMark, do you hear drums at ny point in the darkness?
[00:45] <rhineheart_m> how to change homedirectory?
[00:46] <runnermb> Hi im having a problem with my sound device every time i play music the sound is staggered i think some thing might be wrong with my sound mixer can some one give me a hand with this problem thanks
[00:46] <Mezriss> does anyone have an idea why Zend Studio 5.5.1 appears to be an empty form devoid pf elements?
[00:47] <vinoo> can anybody help me? i've just got a new computer and installed ubuntu 7.10 but there are two keys in my keyboard that doesn't work
[00:47] <pete89> who send titanic finnish subtitles,,,titanic1 xvid-chf.avi
[00:48] <vinoo> backslash  and the period of alpha-numeric
[00:48] <Kuwanger> vinoo: What keys?
[00:48] <kindofabuzz> with vnc am i only supposed to see X and not GDM?
[00:48] <pete89> windows is best!!!!!!!!!! yeah
[00:49] <vinoo> backslash, by the side of the left shift, and the period of alpha-numeric keyboard
[00:49] <kindofabuzz> someone lied to you
[00:49] <Odd-rationale> vinoo: these? ./
[00:49] <Flannel> !offtopic | pete89
[00:49] <ubotu> pete89: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:49] <pete89> linux is very shit
[00:49] <vinoo> exact
[00:49] <runnermb> i am having a problem with my sound could someone give me a hand please
[00:49] <Kuwanger> kindofabuzz: Vnc works on multiple platforms in multiple ways, so that's a bit of a vague question.
[00:49] <LjL> !language | pete89
[00:49] <ubotu> pete89: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:49] <LjL> !ot | pete89
[00:49] <pharoh> hey my widows dodge too fast!how do i slow them down?
[00:49] <Dimitree> Hello :) i have Intel DG31PR motherboard with Intel E2200 Dual Core CPU and integrated Graphics Card GMA 3100 and Realtek ALC888 audio (integrated) will i be able to run ubuntu with this system, i want to be able to use 3D modeling apps and have my Surround sound working :)
[00:49] <kindofabuzz> Kuwanger: well i'm just getting the X server, i thought i should actually see the xfce desktop
[00:50] <Odd-rationale> pharoh: have compizconfig-settings-manager?
[00:50] <pete89> hhhaa:D i have ubuntu 7,1 ..very good..better than windows..
[00:50] <Kuwanger> vinoo: Go to a term, press the backslash, then run "dmesg | tail" and see if you see a message about an unknown key.
[00:50] <pharoh> Odd-rationale:yeap
[00:50] <Dimitree> btw should i use 64bit or 32bit ubuntu ? o-o
[00:50] <runnermb> i am having a problem with my sound could someone give me a hand please
[00:50] <Kuwanger> kindofabuzz: What are you running?
[00:50] <kindofabuzz> Dimitree: do you have a 64 bit computer?
[00:51] <kindofabuzz> Kuwanger: as in?
[00:51] <pete89> ubuntu is good
[00:51] <Odd-rationale> pharoh: Is this the animation when you switch focus?
[00:51] <Kuwanger> kindofabuzz: As in, what command are you running?
[00:51] <curtisshawk9000> anyone know how to get cryptsetup to run on swap at boot?
[00:51] <Dimitree> kindofabuzz yes i'm running Windows server 2003 x64 now
[00:51] <pete89> fucking linux
[00:51] <Kuwanger> curtisshawk9000: Do you mean, how do you swap to be encrypted and mounted on boot?
[00:51] <kindofabuzz> Kuwanger: oh i just do the vncviewer <IP_ADDRESS>:1
[00:51] <pharoh> Odd-rationale:yes.they dodge toooooo fast.
[00:52] <Kuwanger> +get
[00:52] <curtisshawk9000> Kuwanger: yes
[00:52] <Odd-rationale> pharoh: There is an option to make them longer. no?
[00:52] <Kuwanger> kindofabuzz: I meant the vnc server.
[00:52] <runnermb> my ryhthm box is not working right, ever time i play mp3's the music is very choppy and not consistent i think there is a problem with my sound mixer could someone help me trouble shoot this problem pleasee
[00:52] <vinoo> Kuwanger, actually the backslash key works, but appears less,great symbols, when i hold alt the pipe works.
[00:52] <Odd-rationale> pharoh: Change the value to something like 500
[00:52] <curtisshawk9000> Kuwanger: just when a /dev/random key.. for ech boot
[00:52] <kindofabuzz> Kuwanger: oh, umm vncserver
[00:52] <FreeNod1> hi
[00:52] <Odd-rationale> hi
[00:53] <Kuwanger> curtisshawk9000: Install cryptmount and edit /etc/cryptmount/cmtab appropriately.
[00:53] <FreeNod1> :D
[00:53] <Dimitree> I'm conserned because i don't see ANY Linux drivers for my Intel MB on Intels website o-o
[00:53] <curtisshawk9000> Kuwanger: cmtab is applied before fstab?
[00:53] <FreeNod1> anybody know how I get to resume a process?
[00:53] <kindofabuzz> actually now i only get a grey screen with some check boxes,i did have a tem on it earlier
[00:53] <vinoo> Kuwanger, when i "xev" this key it gives me keycode 94 (keysym 0x3c, less)
[00:53] <kindofabuzz> term
[00:53] <pharoh> Odd-rationale:yosh!its ok!
[00:54] <Kuwanger> curtisshawk9000: Um..not likely, no.
[00:54] <Odd-rationale> pharoh: found it?
[00:54] <runnermb> yoo could someone give me some fucking help
[00:54] <Flannel> !language | runnermb
[00:54] <ubotu> runnermb: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:54] <nepbabu> FreeNod1: use the command 'fg'
[00:54] <runnermb> yoo i just need some help please
[00:54] <vinoo> and in  /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.pt the keycode 94 is relationed with "less greater", i've already changed to backslach but it didn't work
[00:54] <pharoh> Odd-rationale :yes.en i changed it.its cool now!:)
[00:54] <Kuwanger> vinoo: Does the key work under a virtual terminal?
[00:54] <Odd-rationale> pharoh: you'll soon get tired of it...
[00:54] <jackjohnson> Hi can someoneo help me with sound issues please
[00:55] <jackjohnson> my name is jack johnson i need some help
[00:55] <vinoo> Kuwanger, no
[00:55] <Kuwanger> vinoo: Hmm...odd.
[00:55] <Flannel> jackjohnson: Be patient, you've been here for less than 10 minutes, lots of people idle for longer periods before checking questions.
[00:55] <Administrador> hi guys! can anyone recommend me a good book for begins witrh linux
[00:55] <Kuwanger> vinoo: By virtual terminal, I mean the console at Ctrl+Alt+F1, btw.
[00:55] <Administrador> i'm newbie, but i really want to learn about this
[00:55] <pharoh> Odd-rationale:yah..maybe.i had SUSE 10.3 en i did quite get tired of it.but it's still fun to see al my friends go ohhh!!...ahhhh!
[00:55] <Odd-rationale> Administrador: Just go to http://ubuntuforums.org
[00:56] <nepbabu> !google | Administrador
[00:56] <ubotu> Administrador: google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[00:56] <Dimitree> ok can i run Ubuntu with intel integrated GMA 3100 ?
[00:56] <nael> Administrador, , http://www.linuxhaxor.net/2007/09/05/68-linux-related-free-e-books/
[00:56] <Kuwanger> kindofabuzz: vncserver, by default, runs Xvnc.  Ie, it starts up a clean X server.
[00:56] <WelshDragon> Hey, i've found out sshd and bash is being executed every second. I now have 300+ running processes and a load average of 100. How can i fix it?
[00:56] <Flannel> WelshDragon: stop whatever is doing it.
[00:56] <WelshDragon> I don't know what's doing it
[00:57] <Kuwanger> kindofabuzz: If you want to do something different than that, you'll have to either read vncviewer's (and Xvnc's) man page..or choose another vnc program.
[00:57] <Flannel> WelshDragon: Check cron jobs?
[00:57] <vinoo> Kuwanger, got it, really don't work, <> appears instead backslash and  |
[00:57] <WelshDragon> kk will do
[00:57] <FreeNod1> nepbabu: yay! it works, but not for my thing :( ... says no such job but in top the process pops up lol
[00:57] <kindofabuzz> Kuwanger: k, thanks buddie
[00:57] <nickrud> !training | Administrador
[00:57] <ubotu> Administrador: A desktop course manual for Ubuntu 7.10 can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[00:57] <Kuwanger> vinoo: Then it *does* work.
[00:57] <CopyWriter> hi guy, just hanging out learning stuff
[00:57] <nepbabu> FreeNod1: ok
[00:57] <Kuwanger> vinoo: It's just incorrectly mapped.
[00:57] <ricky_> has anyone heard if the 8.04 release will have the functionality of the 7.10 for the imfamous broadcome chipset?
[00:57] <Kuwanger> vinoo: Do you have the right locale for your keyboard?
[00:58] <LjL> WelshDragon: is your ssh port open to the world?
[00:58] <Flannel> ricky_: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy questions, thanks.
[00:58] <nepbabu> heya LjL
[00:58] <kindofabuzz> Kuwanger: actually now, term says i'm connected but i see nothing on screen
[00:58] <ricky_> i can hook up mine on 7.10, but on the newer beta a6, none of that works.
[00:58] <WelshDragon> Yes LjL, it's a dedicated server
[00:58] <Positronic> ricky_: Join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy Heron beta questions
[00:58] <nickrud> ricky_ #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release
[00:58] <vinoo> Kuwanger, yes, abnt2
[00:58] <farkewie> hi how can i test if my bluetooth card is being detected?
[00:59] <WelshDragon> There are no cron jobs running either Flannel
[00:59] <LjL> WelshDragon: you might be the victim of an ssh attack attempt, check /var/log/auth.log | grep ssh
[00:59] <TaRDy> what is a good php/html editor/viewer?
[00:59] <ricanelite> when ubuntu hardy comes out i might do a install where i will use the hole harddrive on my notebook instead of just doing a partition. is there a way i could take a screenshot of my desktop with my settings and all. So if I do a install of hardy i could just load it up as it is now. Then instead of configuring everything?
[00:59] <WelshDragon> Ah yes
[00:59] <WelshDragon> I am LjL
[00:59] <Administrador> thanks for the help :)
[00:59] <WelshDragon> Umm...What do i do now?
[00:59] <ricky_> i thought that was what i was asking about? no,
[01:00] <Kuwanger> kindofabuzz: Odd.
[01:00] <ricky_> hardy heron, is that not the relase coming up?
[01:00] <LjL> WelshDragon, look at the IPs that are attempting to connect, do you see any pattern?
[01:00] <nickrud> !clone | ricanelite (plus all of your home, including dot files)
[01:00] <Kuwanger> kindofabuzz: Did you run something like "DISPLAY=:1 xterm"?
[01:00] <ubotu> ricanelite (plus all of your home, including dot files): To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[01:00] <kindofabuzz> Kuwanger: yeah
[01:00] <Flannel> WelshDragon: Check out DenyHosts
[01:00] <vinoo> Kuwanger, i'll try another keyboard, thank u
[01:00] <kindofabuzz> Kuwanger: no
[01:00] <Flannel> WelshDragon: First, probably a good idea to cut it off for the time being, btu DenyHosts will block IPs after a number of attacks, etc.
[01:00] <WelshDragon> All Ip's are the same, I'll check out DenyHosts to block them
[01:00] <ricky_> i was not asking a question about gustry gibbons: but about hardy heron?????
[01:01] <WelshDragon> If i cut it off i'll have no access to it?
[01:01] <kindofabuzz> CConn:       connected to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 5901  but nothing on screen
[01:01] <nickrud> ricky_ so ask in the right place, #ubuntu+1
[01:01]  * Dipingo loves IRC
[01:01] <Dimitree> Should i use Ubuntu x64 or x32 if i have a 64bit system ?
[01:01] <Scunizi> 32
[01:01] <nickrud> Dimitree 32
[01:01] <Dipingo> hi all
[01:01] <hansderagon> Greetings.  Anybody know where the plugins coming with FF 3.0 in Hardy reside on the disk?
[01:01] <Dimitree> ok thanks :)
[01:01] <hansderagon> There are many impressive plugins, but I would like to know how FF finds them.
[01:01] <Kuwanger> kindofabuzz: Um..is your vncviewer being ran on your Xvnc display?
[01:01] <WelshDragon> If i do killall sshd, it will just kill me but i can reconnect yes?
[01:01] <LjL> !hardy > hansderagon    (hansderagon, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:01] <ricky_> i am lost! is this not the ubuntu room? what are you talking about....?
[01:01] <Flannel> WelshDragon: Ah, that's true.  Well, check out deny hosts.
[01:02] <nickrud> hansderagon #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release
[01:02] <kindofabuzz> Kuwanger: i used this guide
[01:02] <Dimitree> what was that way of installing ubuntu that will load a single program format my HDD with it and then download the ubuntu image and install it ?
[01:02] <ricky_> oh, is that a room by itself?
[01:02] <Chris|> anyone know why when i try to boot my dell inspiron 1420N noteboot with a ubuntu derivative such as gOS it goes to a ubuntu login screen and it doesnt allow me into it...?
[01:02] <Flannel> ricky_: it is. /join #ubuntu+1
[01:02] <Dipingo> I just installed VMware and Ubuntu, I need to config Ubuntu to use my PC network setting to access the internet
[01:02] <Flannel> Dimitree: Check out the minimal ISO
[01:02] <DoggyDaddy59> I have question about 32bit vs 64bit processors.... I was told that 32bit hardware can only access a maximum of 3GB of ram.  I'm thinking of purchasing a new laptop and would like to know if Ubuntu 7.10 would be able to access the full 4GB if I installed it.
[01:02] <ricky_> ok, i am in tune with the lingo, but thanks, i will go there.....
[01:02] <kindofabuzz> Kuwanger: if you're asking am i running viewer from the desktop then yeah
[01:02] <Dimitree> thank you Flannel :)
[01:02] <Dipingo> this the correct place to ask?
[01:03] <Flannel> !minimal | Dimitree
[01:03] <ubotu> Dimitree: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[01:03] <nepbabu> Dipingo: #vmware
[01:03] <Dipingo> I think it is Ubuntu thought
[01:03] <Dipingo> though
[01:03] <nickrud> DoggyDaddy59 no, 32bit gets 3gb, you need 64bit for the rest.
[01:03] <talntidwrk> DoggyDaddy59, Are you talking Ubuntu 7.10 32bit or 64bit?
[01:04] <nepbabu> Dipingo: run vmware-config.pl and set it accordingly
[01:04] <Kuwanger> kindofabuzz: I'm curious about the "CConn:       connected to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 5901" message.  That looks like a vncviewer message.
[01:04] <Dimitree> windows SUX !!! Wohoo freedom again ^_^
[01:04] <talntidwrk> UBUNTU 7.10 32 bit will see 3gb, Ubuntu 7.10 64bit will see more.
[01:04] <kindofabuzz> Kuwanger: yeah it is
[01:04] <Dipingo> nepbabu, ok ty
[01:04] <pharoh> how do i get my windows to open in say the centre of the display?mine open in the corner with the boarders hidden.so annoying!
[01:05] <frenchy_> anyone here able to get warcraft 3 to work on wine and actually install the update/patch?
[01:05] <DoggyDaddy59> I would change to Ubuntu 64 bit.... I understand that Vista can not currently access beyond 3GB without a patch that has not yet been released.
[01:05] <talntidwrk> 32 bit vista will not see past 3gb even with the patch
[01:05] <nepbabu> paradon: install devilspie
[01:05] <talntidwrk> it is a hardware limitation.
[01:06] <DoggyDaddy59> Ahh,,, I see.
[01:06] <talntidwrk> Vista will LOOK like it is using more, but thats a marketing ploy.
[01:06] <nepbabu> pharoh: install devilspie
[01:06] <talntidwrk> If you switch to Ubuntu 64, it will see past 3gb.
[01:06] <Kuwanger> kindofabuzz: Hmm..  Not sure what to say without getting more info on what's happening.
[01:06] <Dimitree> Flannel em ... i need app that i can run under windows and then restart and then the app will load and install ubuntu ? is there such a way ?
[01:06] <talntidwrk> I am using 7.10 64bit on my brand new laptop. 4gb ram :)
[01:06] <Kuwanger> kindofabuzz: Want to open up a private message?
[01:06] <kindofabuzz> Kuwanger: sure
[01:06] <frenchy_> What do you need 3gigs of ram for
[01:06] <talntidwrk> who caresd?
[01:06] <DoggyDaddy59> Great!.... what brand did you purchase?
[01:07] <JohnRobert_> is there a way to insert the recipients name automatically in an email in evolution?
[01:07] <talntidwrk> I purchased a Dell Lattitude D830
[01:07] <talntidwrk> I will admit though, thats only because I have a business account with them.
[01:07] <talntidwrk> I would prefer a Thinkpad
[01:07] <talntidwrk> but I got this dell for a killer deal.
[01:07] <talntidwrk> PM if you would like to know more, this is off-topic.
[01:07] <DoggyDaddy59> Great!... Another question about front side bus speed?..... I'm confused,
[01:07] <Flannel> Dimitree: Why does it have to run under windows?
[01:07] <rhineheart_m> Hello.. I want a user to have full privilege in a certain directory....like if logged in home directory.. I want to change it to /var/www/certain dir so that I could simply transfer files to maintain  the site. Is there anybody here who could assist me? Thanks
[01:08] <xb3rt> how come when I make an alias, if i close the terminal it goes away
[01:08] <Flannel> xb3rt: because it's only around for that bash session.  Try adding it to .bashrc
[01:08] <Dimitree> Flannel i have no CD/DVD rom, i am running windows right now so i need something to format my HDD and install ubuntu downloading it from the net :)
[01:08] <larson9999> is it just me or does everyone hit the stop button when a podcast has robert heron?
[01:08] <xb3rt> Flannel: Where would i find .bashrc
[01:08] <nyarly_> xb3rt, add the alias to your .bashrc
[01:08] <SeaPhor> is there something wrong with 7.10 /64? i've had no probs other than not being able to get wireless rtl8185 working (desktop)
[01:08] <Flannel> xb3rt: ~/.bashrc
[01:08] <nepbabu> xb3rt: ~/.bashrc
[01:09] <xb3rt> ok
[01:09] <nyarly_> home dirt
[01:09] <nyarly_> lol
[01:09] <nickrud> xb3rt all config files/dirs start with  a period, and are found in your home.
[01:09] <nepbabu> !lol | nyarly_
[01:09] <ubotu> nyarly_: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[01:09] <Flannel> Dimitree: Ah!  You should've said so.  http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  has a number of methods for installation sans CD, including one from windows.
[01:09] <nyarly_> gotta love the bot
[01:09] <Dimitree> Flannel thank you very much !! :)
[01:09] <Flannel> Dimitree: although, I'd personally try some of the others before the windows one, but its there.
[01:09] <nepbabu> !bot | nyarly_
[01:09] <ubotu> nyarly_: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:10] <Dimitree> Flannel i hope there is one that will work with 64bt windows hehe
[01:10] <xb3rt> nickrud: didn't find it,
[01:10] <DoggyDaddy59> I have seen several HP Laptop models advertised with 1600MHZ Front Side Bus Speed, others are running 800MHZ 533MHZ.... What's the best choice?... faster sometimes means better, but I'm not sure.
[01:10] <larson9999> omg! lol is not annoying
[01:10] <Flannel> !offtopic
[01:10] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:10] <nickrud> xb3rt in the file manager, hit ctl-h to show hidden files.  Strange things happen: X starts, and then hides showing "running local boot scripts" and then shows again, and then hides...
[01:11] <gd1> in an infinite loop
[01:11] <nickrud> xb3rt assuming you're in your home, that is
[01:11] <xb3rt> nickrud: i meant to show hidden files
[01:11] <schweeb> FreeNod1: kill -9 <pid>
[01:11] <schweeb> xb3rt: ls -a
[01:11] <FreeNod1> schweeb: cheers :D
[01:11] <cicero> hi
[01:12] <nyarly_> gd1, log into the term and read the X log and see what is breaking
[01:12] <gd1> any ideas?
[01:12] <nickrud> xb3rt  ls -ld .*
[01:12] <schweeb> FreeNod1: -9 not necessarily needed, but helpful for hard to kill stuff
[01:12] <schweeb> nickrud: no.  ls -a
[01:12] <gd1> nyarly_: I can do nothing, it's all damn fast
[01:12] <schweeb> -a = all
[01:12] <schweeb> .* ONLY shows hdden
[01:12] <nickrud> schallstrom_ the other works as well,
[01:12] <nyarly_> CTRL+ALT+F2
[01:12] <gd1> I get memtest errors at test 5 and 8
[01:12] <Stwange> if I login as root on ctrl+alt+F4, then do su james, then DISPLAY :0 someProgram  - the header doesn't load, how can I fix this?
[01:12] <nickrud> schweeb wanted to show him only the dot files
[01:13] <nyarly_> gd1, login then 'view /var/log/Xorg.o.log'
[01:13] <FreeNod1> schweeb: hehe! lol... the hard to kill stuff that I find very often :D
[01:13] <schweeb> nickrud: oh, last thing I saw just said how does he see hidden
[01:13] <nabcore> Hi, I'm currently testing 8.04 beta and it seems to take a long while to boot. Looking at the relevant part of the dmesg, suggests that this is the issue: http://pastebin.ca/961632
[01:13] <FreeNod1> schweeb: btw it worked a charm cheers
[01:13] <gd1> nyarly_: I will
[01:13] <nickrud> schweeb yup ;)
[01:13] <gd1> thanks
[01:14]  * leo_rockw loves ubuntu so much he stays home on a friday night like the geek he is, pleased to help any noob in distress ---> sarcasm ¬¬
[01:14] <leo_rockw> so, who needs help?
[01:14] <nyarly_> gd1, np look for the lines with EE on it those are the errors
[01:14] <xb3rt> nickrud: what folder is that file in
[01:14] <FreeNod1> schweeb: do you think there is a way to resume a process gui? like "aptitude"
[01:14] <nickrud> xb3rt all of your configuration files are in /usr/<yourusername>
[01:14] <schweeb> FreeNod1: what do you mean
[01:14] <SeaPhor> I do!
[01:14] <nickrud> xb3rt arhg, typo or brain fart:  /home/<yourusername>
[01:14] <schweeb> FreeNod1: a graphical task manager?
[01:14] <leo_rockw> SeaPhor: state rank and question
[01:14] <Dimitree> what is Linux Qt4 Version ? Should i install that one or Ubuntu 7.10
[01:15] <leo_rockw> Dimitree: qt libraries are the ones used by kde. qt4 is used by kde4
[01:15] <schweeb> FreeNod1: there MAY be one.  I haven't used Linux in a couple years, so I'm not 100%
[01:15] <nickrud> Dimitree stick with the qt stuff that comes with 7.10
[01:15] <Dimitree> ok thank you :)
[01:15] <schweeb> FreeNod1: I use Solaris and AIX mostly these days, so kill's all I use.
[01:15] <nepbabu> schweeb: !_!
[01:15] <FreeNod1> schweeb:  I'm using rtorrent, the pain is that when putty is getting rid of, the process is running but I can't access the terminal ui anymore :(
[01:16] <pharoh> how do i stopmy windows sticking to the display?they stick to the right ide en the bottom.
[01:16] <schweeb> nepbabu: if you got paid what I do, you'd use either all day long
[01:16] <nepbabu> pharoh: use devilspie
[01:16] <nickrud> pharoh can you move them at all?
[01:16] <SeaPhor> rtl8185 wireless will not see wpa2 network, driver shows in lshw -C network, ndiswrapper looks ok,,,,
[01:16] <FreeNod1> schweeb: Holy momma... Solaris and AIX :|
[01:16] <nepbabu> schweeb: hehe
[01:16] <Dimitree> freeeedooom las vegass wohoo ^__^
[01:16] <nyarly_> FreeNod1, so you wanna kill it or restart it?
[01:16] <schweeb> I like AIX *shrug*
[01:16] <pharoh> nickrud:yah.but they jus sticky
[01:17] <xb3rt> nickrud: im in the .bashrc file now, where do i add my alias?
[01:17] <nickrud> pharoh sticky? what do you mean, they kinda snap to edges?
[01:17] <SeaPhor> and yes,, i am a n00b to all, linux, ubuntu, and this irc
[01:17] <nyarly_> xbr3t, at the bottom is fine
[01:17] <FreeNod1> nyarly_: I would like to go back into the terminal ui without terminating and restarting the thing :(
[01:17] <nickrud> xb3rt simply add the alias you want at the end of the file, and next time you log in it will be loaded automatically
[01:17] <pharoh> nickrud:not exactly,they snap lightly en then if i push they let move past.
[01:17] <nickrud> pharoh ok, you're using compiz
[01:18] <nepbabu> xb3rt: or do "source ~/.bashrc" and reload the shell
[01:18] <leo_rockw> pharoh: you're not using metacity, are you?
[01:18] <talntidwrk> Anyone have any experience getting wireless working on a Intel Wireless 1935 wireless card?
[01:18] <nickrud> pharoh are you using the wobbly windows?
[01:18] <nyarly_> FreeNod1, oooh, I run rtorrent froma screen session to prevent just such an issue
[01:18] <leo_rockw> screen ftw
[01:18] <pharoh> nickrud: yeap.wobbly windows
[01:18] <leo_rockw> !pm | SeaPhor
[01:18] <ubotu> SeaPhor: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[01:19] <nickrud> pharoh do you have   compizconfig-settings-manager installed? if not, do that first
[01:19] <pharoh> nickrud:i already do.:)
[01:19] <FreeNod1> nyarly_: ohhh... well I just started linux a week ago so I know little unfortunately, so if I read about the screen it should solve my issue?
[01:19] <nickrud> pharoh ok, a sec while i find the right switch
[01:19] <SeaPhor> and yes,, i am a n00b to all, linux, ubuntu, and this irc, just proved that, lol
[01:20] <leo_rockw> SeaPhor: this channel logs are indexed by google and other search engines. pm are not.
[01:20] <pygmymath> ctrl z is the best!
[01:20] <nyarly_> FreeNod1, well you are going to have to kill your rtorent unfortunately, but yeah 'sudo apt-get install screen' and use that for apps in term that will run continuously
[01:20] <Cann0n> SeaPhor, Ubuntu is a linux distributio*
[01:20] <nickrud> pharoh in the wobbly windows section, set (or reset) the Snap inverted item
[01:20] <nepbabu> !screen > FreeNod1
[01:20] <nyarly_> !screen |FreeNod1
[01:20] <ubotu> FreeNod1: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[01:21] <SeaPhor> ok, Cann0n, not THAT new
[01:21] <arvind_khadri> make[2]: Entering directory `/home/arvind/Desktop/anjuta-2.4.0/po'
[01:21] <arvind_khadri> file=`echo ar | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \
[01:21] <arvind_khadri>           && rm -f $file &&  -o $file ar.po
[01:21] <arvind_khadri> /bin/sh: -o: not found
[01:21] <arvind_khadri> make[2]: *** [ar.gmo] Error 127
[01:21] <FloodBot2> arvind_khadri: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:21] <arvind_khadri> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/arvind/Desktop/anjuta-2.4.0/po'
[01:21] <arvind_khadri> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
[01:21] <LZ1> hey, I'm tryng to create partitions in my raid device, but gparted says it is read-only
[01:21] <SeaPhor> actually a Debian distro of Linux,,, if i'm saying it right ;-)
[01:21] <leo_rockw> LZ1: do not mount partitions to use them with gparted
[01:22] <leo_rockw> SeaPhor: debian based
[01:22] <pharoh> nickrud:thanks
[01:22] <nickrud> !debian | SeaPhor
[01:22] <ubotu> SeaPhor: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[01:22] <SeaPhor> tru
[01:22] <Cann0n> SeaPhor, yeah i know.
[01:22] <SeaPhor> true
[01:22] <FreeNod1> DAMN... cheers guys :|
[01:22] <MilitantPotato> Can the live CD be used if it's burned to a DVD?
[01:22] <nyarly_> yw
[01:22] <Y1MMMY> what is the number one web browser other than firefox for ubuntu gnome
[01:22] <jimiridge> i dont see why not MilitantPotato
[01:22] <peter77> I've set ubuntu to shurdown when the percentage of power reaches 15% however nothing seems to be happening and my laptop is left to discharge below 15%
[01:22] <soldats> MilitantPotato: yes
[01:22] <pharoh> nepbabu:how do i use devilspie?where is it located?
[01:22] <arvind_khadri> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61433/
[01:23] <Cann0n> milardovich, yes, but it fits on a regular cd-r
[01:23] <MilitantPotato> thanks guys
[01:23] <nickrud> Y1MMMY opera or epiphany are good alternatives (ecch, opera ;)
[01:23] <FreeNod1> nyarly_: hey, btw you can't automatically stop torrent after completion can you? lol
[01:23] <Cann0n> woops... sorry
[01:23] <MilitantPotato> Cann0n: he's out of CDRs
[01:23] <fismoll8> hey guys...I am importing my desktop settings from a primary linux box to a secondary one. I transferred /home/bobo from the primary to the secondary, set up all the permissions and proper owners (secondary box only has one user, user bobo) then tried restarting gdm. It crashed. I have tried to start gdm a number of times; after I enter in my password, it seems like it's going to start....get an hourglass and everything...but then, no desktop. Anyo
[01:23] <nepbabu> !devilspie | pharoh
[01:23] <leo_rockw> Y1MMMY: i heard good things of kazehakase
[01:23] <ubotu> pharoh: devilspie is a tool that performs actions on windows in GNOME's metacity such as resizing, positioning, and pinning.  Usage information can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
[01:23] <LZ1> leo_rockw: it's not mounted
[01:23] <SeaPhor> ok, all this is well and good, but, what about the problem at hand?
[01:23] <Y1MMMY> @leo_rockw  thanks bud ill hit that up
[01:23] <leo_rockw> Y1MMMY: never tried it myself, tho (i'm all about konqueror)
[01:24] <Cann0n> MilitantPotato, i'd go to the store.
[01:24] <jimiridge> fismoll8, you should've just transfered the filders you really needed like .mozilla .thunderbird
[01:24] <jimiridge> might be .gconf that broke it
[01:24] <MilitantPotato> Cann0n: I guess he's to lazy :P
[01:24] <leo_rockw> LZ1: ok, that's about the only idea i had, sorry.
[01:24] <jimiridge> or .Xaythority
[01:24] <milardovich> Cann0n: tab error? xD no problem
[01:24] <arvind_khadri> hi, needed help...
[01:24] <Cann0n> milardovich, correct. i apologize.
[01:25] <nickrud> fismoll8 try deleting .Xauthority and .dmrc from your home, and .xsession-errors and /var/log/gdm/\:0.log might have some clues as well
[01:25] <LZ1> Unable to open /dev/scd0 read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/scd0 has been opened read-only.
[01:25] <LZ1> how to open it with write permission?
[01:25] <milardovich> Cann0n: no problem ;)
[01:25] <nepbabu> LZ1: that's your CD/DVD drive dude
[01:25] <Stwange> sorry to repeat, but if I login as root on ctrl+alt+F4, then do su james then DISPLAY :0 firefox  - the header doesn't load, how can I fix this?
[01:25] <SeaPhor> no?, ok, i'll try again tomorrow, maybe the 3rd night is a charm
[01:26] <nickrud> LZ1 you can't mount a cd read/write ;)
[01:26] <LZ1> isn't it my raid device?
[01:26] <Cann0n> SeanTater, what are you trying?
[01:26] <leo_rockw> arvind_khadri: usual process is 0) you ask your question 1) we help you.
[01:26] <pygmymath> Stwange: What do you mean by header?
[01:26] <Cann0n> tab errors like crazy tonight... sorry folks... just got in from spring break.
[01:26] <Stwange> pygmymath, like the name, menu, and the minimize/maximize/close buttons
[01:27] <Cann0n> SeaPhor, what is your problem?
[01:27] <Y1MMMY> @leo_rockw  k ill give it a shot
[01:27] <pygmymath> Stwange: thats pretty weird.. lemme try that. Any particular reason to run it like that?
[01:27] <SeaPhor> rtl8185 wireless will not see wpa2 network, driver shows in lshw -C network, ndiswrapper looks ok,,,,
[01:27] <arvind_khadri> i needed help on this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61433/
[01:28] <Stwange> pygmymath, so I can run programs on the loaded X over SSH, ie. say I want to open a website for later from another PC I can open it on firefox and when I get in it will be there
[01:28] <pygmymath> got you.
[01:28] <LZ1> nickrud: I think it's the raid, cuz it says lzz on the name on gparted, and the cd is the ubuntu cd
[01:28] <pharoh> does anyone know where i can get a theme that makes my windows look like this guys:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ImW0-MgR8I
[01:28] <leo_rockw> arvind_khadri: why are you compiling?
[01:28] <arvind_khadri> as i wanted the latest version
[01:28] <Cann0n> SeaPhor, the logical name is wpa2?
[01:29] <leo_rockw> pharoh: i didn't watch the video, but usually gnome-look.org and kde-look.org are great places to look for themes
[01:29] <nickrud> LZ1 try   ls -l  /dev/scd0 , what does it say about it?
[01:29] <arvind_khadri> leo_rockw, as i wanted to compile
[01:29] <SeaPhor> no, the encryption type
[01:29] <Stwange> pharoh, if you find out let me know
[01:29] <pygmymath> Stwange: display :0 says not installed for me?
[01:29] <leo_rockw> arvind_khadri: did you try the version from the repos?
[01:29] <SeaPhor> from the wireless router
[01:29] <pygmymath> Stwange: have you tried running metacity --replace on the Xbox?
[01:30] <pygmymath> Stwange: or compiz --replace if you're compizing it
[01:30] <arvind_khadri> leo_rockw, those versions are older and have some bugs
[01:30] <Stwange> ill try it one second
[01:30] <leo_rockw> pygmymath: i like that verb... to compize
[01:30] <LZ1> nickrud: yeah, it says cdrom, you rigth
[01:30] <pygmymath> leo_rockw: heh thanks
[01:30] <techqbert> what's the command to see what shell you are using?
[01:30] <leo_rockw> arvind_khadri: did ./configure give you any error? any warning?
[01:31] <Cann0n> pharoh, what do you want? the effects? the 3d cube?
[01:31] <pygmymath> leo_rockw: "Compize that box. It'd be so much better..."
[01:31] <arvind_khadri> leo_rockw, no it ran smoothly
[01:31] <pharoh> CannOn:no,the colour of his windows.
[01:31] <SeaPhor> and i have installed wpasupplicant
[01:32] <leo_rockw> techqbert: i want to hear the answer to your question too... i used to know the answer and i forgot, and it's driving me crazy not being able to remember :-P
[01:32] <Cann0n> yeah, thats a go-find-it-yourself answer. try gnome-look.org or kde-look.org like that guy said
[01:32] <leo_rockw> Cann0n: name's leo, pal ¬¬ :-P
[01:32] <techqbert> leo_rockw: I know the feeling ;D
[01:32] <georgy_28>
[01:32] <pygmymath> Here's a question, has anyone else ever have the appearance settings dialog go all 100% cpu on you and not display the customize dialog?
[01:33] <Cann0n> wasn't sure. it scrolled up and i was too lazy to scroll down
[01:33] <leo_rockw> arvind_khadri: those errors might be too specific to anjuta. did you check if there's an #anjuta channel?
[01:33] <leo_rockw> Cann0n: haha, ok
[01:33] <arvind_khadri> leo_rockw, sorry i didnt...will check out now
[01:33] <LZ1> nickrud: but, in gparted, it says: /dev/mapper/isw_cegiigfbdi_lzz
[01:34] <nickrud> LZ1 I haven't played with raid for years, I'm really rusty. Not the right person to ask about setup
[01:34] <Ubuntu_latin> Need help. I have installed Apache 2 on Ubuntu 7.10 via apt-get but can't configure DocumentRoot, ServerAdmin and ServerName options. httpd.conf file is empty
[01:35] <nickrud> Ububegin apache2.conf has much of that. Other things are in sites-available and mods-available. To add those to the dynamically created http.conf, a2ensite and a2enmod
[01:36] <poseidon> Whats a good text editor for linux with good syntax highlighting?
[01:36] <leo_rockw> arvind_khadri: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/downloads
[01:36] <Y1MMMY> oooooooo
[01:36] <nickrud> Ububegin for example, document root is set in sites-available/000-default, and since it's had a2ensite applied to it, it appears in sites-enabled
[01:36] <Y1MMMY> i like konquror
[01:36] <leo_rockw> arvind_khadri: use the unofficial repos, it would be easier than compiling
[01:37] <leo_rockw> Y1MMMY: you haven't seen anything yet...
[01:37] <skrimpy> bluefish is a bit more than a simple text editor but has great syntax highlighting
[01:37] <nickrud> Ubuntu_latin erm, the last two things were for you.  Sorry Ububegin
[01:37] <light50> poseidon: im trying bluefish
[01:37] <leo_rockw> Y1MMMY: you can go apt:/ fish:/ ftp:/ smb:/ locate:/ man:/ (konqueror is awesome)
[01:37] <arvind_khadri> leo_rockw, hmm will see to it...thanks anyways
[01:37] <Y1MMMY> True
[01:37] <leo_rockw> arvind_khadri: just add the unofficial repos to your sources.list
[01:38] <Y1MMMY> this is a very nice web broswer
[01:38] <Y1MMMY> the interface is one of the best as ive seen so far
[01:38] <asymptote> Has anyone here used Jabbin or another gtalk compaible client ?
[01:38] <leo_rockw> asymptote: i'm using kopete for jabber
[01:38] <poseidon> Thanks, I'm installing blue fish now :)
[01:38] <pygmymath> asymptote: Pidgin does it - xmmp or something
[01:38] <bigmack83> i have win xp as a primary partition, Ubuntu Gutst as a secondary. Win xp just had a fatal crash and have to reinstall. anyway of doing this without having to reinstall ubuntu?
[01:38] <skrimpy> I've been really pleased with bluefish :D
[01:38] <arvind_khadri> leo_rockw, which are those
[01:39] <asymptote> pygmymath, pidgin does not support voice chat
[01:39] <pygmymath> bigmack83: you can reinstall to the xp partition normally without touching ubuntu, but you'll have to reinstall grub afterwards
[01:39] <pygmymath> asymptote: aah
[01:39] <asymptote> leo_rockw, did you install kopete from source or is there a package
[01:39] <leo_rockw> arvind_khadri: in that link i gave you there are repos for feisty and gutsy
[01:39] <leo_rockw> asymptote: package. it's for kde
[01:39] <leo_rockw> arvind_khadri: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and add those
[01:40] <leo_rockw> arvind_khadri: then install from synaptic
[01:40] <arvind_khadri> oh ok got it
[01:40] <arvind_khadri> leo_rockw, wont apt-get work??
[01:40] <asymptote> leo_rockw, can you use gtalk voice with it ?
[01:40] <leo_rockw> arvind_khadri: yup, that works too
[01:40] <bigmack83> pygmymath: to reinstall grub do i just insert the live CD? is there an option for grub? sorry im new to ubuntu.
[01:40] <brabbelj> Is there a good tool for programmers under linux with syntax highlighting
[01:40] <leo_rockw> asymptote: idk, i use this thing called phone for voice, usually :-P
[01:40] <leo_rockw> asymptote: sorry, i never tried it
[01:40] <asymptote> leo_rockw, I don't appreciate the wise remark
[01:41] <leo_rockw> asymptote: too bad
[01:41] <brabbelj> I need a tool with a good Syntax highlighting for php
[01:42] <brabbelj> gedit is cool but it doesn't know all function
[01:42] <acefalo> http://lexadrez.codigolivre.org.br/
[01:42] <skrimpy> try bluefish
[01:42] <brabbelj> oh no I don't like bluefish
[01:42] <pygmymath> bigmack83: google/someone else will help but i dont have a clue myself heh.. never done it
[01:42] <pygmymath> bigmack83: you can do it with the livecd though afaik
[01:43] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> how do I find the locale I'm running in?
[01:43] <bigmack83> pygmymath: ok cool thank for the lead, just found the answer to reinstall grub in forum, Thx
[01:43] <pygmymath> bigmack83: awesome,good luck
[01:45] <YourNameHere> I have a dual screen setup, is there any way to extend the gnome panel into the second monitor?
[01:46] <FFVV> Can anyone help me? been editing the oidentd config to get it working as I want but now I need to restart it, how do I do it? sorry but im clueless with that
[01:48] <leo_rockw> FFVV: i'm not sure what oidentd is but try sudo /etc/init.d/oidentd restart
[01:49] <FFVV> thx
[01:49] <leo_rockw> FFVV: did that work? kool
[01:49] <FFVV> yep
[01:49] <leo_rockw> FFVV: i just figured oidentd was a daemon (most daemons end with a d)
[01:51] <Acomaco> Is it normal for a computer to not show the other hdd's when installing ubuntu server?
[01:51] <Acomaco> It shows IDE2 Master, and i got one at IDE1 master, or if its IDE3 master..
[01:52] <pygmymath> Acomaco: what in? the graphical partition editor?
[01:53] <mattgyver83> How difficult is it to write a script to email (w/gmail) myself my network IP address every hour or so?
[01:54] <lubosz> hi
[01:54] <leo_rockw> lubosz: greetings
[01:54] <brabbelj> in which language?
[01:54] <lubosz> i installed bootchart, but no bootchart.tgz is generated
[01:54] <pygmymath> mattgyver83: i saw a tutorial on getting gmail to work from a terminal... from there you can use crontabor the at command i guess
[01:54] <lubosz> what to do
[01:54] <SonicEpsilon> how do you update firefox? Can you do that?
[01:54] <pygmymath> SonicEpsilon: its updates are dealt with through synaptic - the same as all the other ubuntu updates
[01:54] <brabbelj> how can I upgrade to the new OpenOffice version?
[01:55] <brabbelj> apt-get upgrade doesn't show me anything
[01:55] <cameo357> I tried synatic didn't work
[01:55] <lubosz> brabbelj: you wait till its in the repositories or you install it manually
[01:55] <pygmymath> SonicEpsilon: if you have doubts that its not latest do sudo apt-get update (gets updates) sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:55] <leo_rockw> mattgyver83: mutt and crontab sound like a reasonable idea
[01:55] <brabbelj> ah k thx
[01:55] <mattgyver83> pygmymath, do you still have the link?
[01:55] <pygmymath> mattgyver83: fraid not, was a random browser session. google though
[01:55] <mattgyver83> leo_rockw, what is mutt?
[01:55] <SonicEpsilon> It's at <IP_ADDRESS>, latest is <IP_ADDRESS> I think
[01:55] <qcjn> hi,
[01:56] <leo_rockw> mattgyver83: apt-cache show mutt
[01:56] <lubosz> SonicEpsilon: latest is 3.0 beta 4 is think
[01:56] <lubosz> ;)
[01:56] <qcjn> how to install a sata hd via a pci controller
[01:56] <SonicEpsilon> not talking about betas
[01:56] <SonicEpsilon> talking about firefox2
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> Sonicadvance: download the source code and compile it.
[01:56] <SonicEpsilon> sudo's upgrading firefox it seems anyway now
[01:56] <`Tanner> Do most routers work with ubuntu?(using ubuntu on a laptop w/ wireless connection)
[01:56] <pygmymath> SonicEpsilon: aye. Probably that only <IP_ADDRESS> is the latest packages
[01:57] <lubosz> SonicEpsilon: if its not in the repo, you have to search for a deb
[01:57] <mattgyver83> Is there a command (other then ifconfig) that will just give you your IP address?
[01:57] <pygmymath> lubosz: or get a source that has more recent versions
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> Sonicadvance: for what its wroth though, it appears my version of firefox, is the same as the "up to date" version on mozilla.com..
[01:57] <mattgyver83> actually, i need my external IP, not my internal, how do i get that?
[01:57] <pygmymath> mattgyver83: not that i know of. but if you want to prune it you could pipe to grep?
[01:57] <brabbelj> @mattgyver use a regex with grep
[01:58] <leo_rockw> mattgyver83: something like ddclient?
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> brabbelj: why do you type @username, it destroys the point because it doesn't alert them
[01:58] <lubosz> SonicEpsilon: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>&os=linux&lang=en-US
[01:59] <SeaPhor> well, i'll post it here, if Cann0n or leo wants to try,,, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61434/
[01:59] <SonicEpsilon> so should I stop sudo
[01:59] <pygmymath> IndyGunFreak: irssi user? :P
[01:59] <Acomaco> pygmymath sorry for late reply, But yes
[01:59] <Acomaco> in the graphical part..
[01:59] <SonicEpsilon> what do I do now, uninstall firefox?
[01:59] <brabbelj> IndyGunFreak: I forgot it ^^
[01:59] <jhonijim> mattgyver83 whatsmyip.net
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> pygmymath: ot really sure what irssi has to do w/ it.
[01:59] <pygmymath> Acomaco: get a terminal and do sudo fdisk -l to list all volumes...
[02:00] <Acomaco> its reformating atm ..
[02:00] <pygmymath> IndyGunFreak: irssi does alerts if you have the name at the start, didnt know if that was a cross program thing
[02:00] <pygmymath> Acomaco: heh whens its done then
[02:00] <leo_rockw> IndyGunFreak: it does alert konversation users :-P
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> pygmymath: to my knowledge, thats how all the IRC programs alert..
[02:00] <pygmymath> Acomaco: but it should have like HDA HDB et..
[02:00] <lubosz> SonicEpsilon: why dont you wait till its in the repos?
[02:00] <arvind_khadri> leo_rockw, the version from the repo is full buggy
[02:01] <Acomaco> pygmymath, would you recomend me to do apt-get install apache2, or get the source and compile it myself?
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> leo_rockw: well, anyone dumb enought o use konversation, should be banned..lol
[02:01] <kindofabuzz> go tigers!
[02:01] <arvind_khadri> leo_rockw, tats the reason i wanted to compile
[02:01] <leo_rockw> IndyGunFreak: :-O you insult me, good sir!
[02:01] <mattgyver83> Theres no way to get that IP from the terminal?
[02:01] <Acomaco> there is mattgyver83, try ifconfig
[02:01] <Daisuke_Ido> IndyGunFreak, people should be able to use whatever client they like, isn't linux about freedom to choose?
[02:02] <mattgyver83> Acomaco, it just gives my internal IP address, not my external
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> Daisuke_Ido: look up "facetious" int he dictionary
[02:02] <pygmymath> Acomaco: apt-get, im not amazing at linux heh but i kno that if you apt-get it'll do updates automatically
[02:02] <Flannel> mattgyver83: That's correct.  There's no way (other than connecting to the internet, or checking with the machine that is internet facing) to get it
[02:02] <leo_rockw> IndyGunFreak: lol
[02:02] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry, sarcasm detector isn't working well tonight :P
[02:02] <mattgyver83> Flannel, Thanks.
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> leo_rockw: well, i thought people could tell i was kidding
[02:02] <Acomaco> mattgyver83, this is pretty newbish.. but do wget whatismyip.com then do nano the file ^^
[02:02] <leo_rockw> IndyGunFreak: i could
[02:03] <mattgyver83> Acomaco, thats a good idea.
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> lol, well it wasn't lost on everyone then
[02:03] <leo_rockw> IndyGunFreak: you bitch...X
[02:03] <Flannel> mattgyver83: Why do you want to get your ip every hour or so?
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:03] <mattgyver83> yes, and email through the google api to myself.
[02:03] <Flannel> mattgyver83: why?
[02:03] <Daisuke_Ido> mattgyver83, is this for knowing the ip for, say, sshing in from elsewhere?
[02:04] <leo_rockw> mattgyver83: if you're trying to ssh like Daisuke_Ido suggested, just use dyndns
[02:04] <mattgyver83> Basically to connect with VNC.  I dont have a static IP.
[02:04] <qcjn> how to install a sata hd via a pci controller
[02:04] <leo_rockw> mattgyver83: then use dyndns and ddclient
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> mattgyver83, dyndns
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, leo beat me to it
[02:04] <Acomaco> mattgyver83, i was about to suggest you no-ip ^^
[02:04] <rhineheart_m> Is there a way to change the homedirectory of a user?
[02:05] <zekaito> the ubuntu os keeps saying I can't do certain things cuz I am not root. I've tried every thing I could find on the web to log in as root but nothign works. this I my computer damn it, I should be the fuckin root
[02:05] <chuy> change a home dir?
[02:05] <leo_rockw> !ohmy | zekaito
[02:05] <ubotu> zekaito: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:05] <chuy> have you tried 'sudo passwd'
[02:05] <zekaito> yes
[02:05] <leo_rockw> zekaito: yeah, like in XP right? ;-)
[02:05] <chuy> what did 'sudo passwd' do?
[02:06] <Acomaco> LoL! i love my broadband so badly! The installation went faster with ftp install than with cdrom XD
[02:06] <Flannel> zekaito, chuy, don't set the root password, and don't login as root.  zekaito, ubuntu uses sudo instead of the root account.
[02:06] <TeacherTomL> Hi all.  Ubuntu (and Linux) nubie here.  Trying to get Ubuntu to boot from a separate partition on my Windows XP.  Grub installed on the other partition, but the machine keeps booting to Windows XP.  Where should I go for HELP?
[02:06] <fuffalo> how do i play RM files with totem?
[02:06] <zekaito> it said it changed the root password, but I still can't login
[02:06] <mattgyver83> These are all good ideas, id rather learn how to write a script to do that, just to learn.
[02:06] <leo_rockw> zekaito: don't login as root
[02:06] <chuy> try "su"
[02:06] <leo_rockw> mattgyver83: learn bash or python
[02:06] <chuy> then enter your sudo passwd
[02:06] <pygmymath> sudo -i is how i roll heh
[02:07] <leo_rockw> mattgyver83: they are easy to start learning how to program
[02:07] <Flannel> chuy: Please don't recommend people set their root passwords in this channel, thanks.
[02:07] <Acomaco> uhm...guys...
[02:07] <leo_rockw> zekaito: this is not windows, do not login as root, it's not smart
[02:07] <mattgyver83> Yeah, bash i can figure out really easy, its more some of the terminal and editing commands id have to learn.
[02:07] <Acomaco> I installed ubuntu server to my computer...but i never got to choose a username and password....
[02:07] <leo_rockw> mattgyver83: try living without X for a week and you'll be forced to learn
[02:07] <Acomaco> and the installation is complete now and i'm at bootscreen...
[02:07] <zekaito> my machine, my rules
[02:07] <Zoris> anyone know how I can change the ubuntu logo to something else on the menu bar?
[02:07] <leo_rockw> zekaito: ok, your machine, you figure it out
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> quick, root the admin-obsessed newbie
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> there's a REASON the root account is disabled
[02:08] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: lol
[02:08] <zekaito> a lot of times I try to do something and It says I can't cuz I am not logined in as root
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> if you want to do something, you use sudo
[02:08] <Flannel> zekaito: Yes, you use sudo to do it.
[02:08] <rhineheart_m> chuy, Yeah I want to change the home dir with write access
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> that's what sudo is FOR
[02:08] <Acomaco> zekaito, you should use sudo
[02:08] <zekaito> ubuntu has too much security
[02:08] <pygmymath> zekaito: it does that so that if someone else breaks into your computer then they cant just flatten it. your computer your rules
[02:08] <Acomaco> zekaito your wrong, it has to weak security
[02:09] <Daisuke_Ido> O <- head.  wall.-> ||  join the two repeatedly
[02:09] <leo_rockw> zekaito: XP has no security
[02:09] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: rofl
[02:09] <zekaito> so I am limited to doing things as root using the terminal?
[02:09] <Scunizi> zekaito, that I've never heard before
[02:09] <leo_rockw> zekaito: that's a negative
[02:09] <Acomaco> IMO, put 4 passwords in a row to prevent bruteforce!
[02:09] <chuy> no sudo in front of every command will give you root access for that command
[02:09] <Y1MMMY> if any one could help me out with flash in konquror that would be great
[02:10] <zekaito> but can I have root access using the GUI
[02:10] <Flannel> zekaito: yes.
[02:10] <Daisuke_Ido> zekaito, that's not only dumb, it's really dumb
[02:10] <Daisuke_Ido> but if you want to, feel free
[02:10] <rhineheart_m> Is anybody here have a knowledge on how to change the home dir of a user?
[02:10] <pygmymath> zekaito: if you wanna copy files and stuff, do gksudo nautilus - that'll open the file browser as root.
[02:10] <zekaito> why is having root access dumb?
[02:10] <leo_rockw> zekaito: gksudo nautilus, have fun
[02:10] <Acomaco> rhineheart_m change /etc/passwd
[02:10] <chuy> sudo vi /etc/passwd and find the user you wanna change
[02:10] <Flannel> zekaito: `gksu nautilus` will give you a root nautilus window, be EXTREMELY careful with it, close it as soon as you're done.  And don't say we didn't warn you.
[02:11] <pygmymath> zekaito: its not dumb, you have it in the form of sudo and gksudo.
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> zekaito: just bre careful what you're doing while in root nautilus
[02:11] <rhineheart_m> would that change the dir?
[02:11] <Flannel> chuy, Acomaco, rhineheart_m,  usermod.  No need to edit things by hand.
[02:11] <chuy> you will have to find the user and change it accordingly
[02:11] <leo_rockw> zekaito: being root all the time is pointless and not safe
[02:11] <pygmymath> zekaito: but for example - running firefox as a user means firefox can change less files and is less likely to give you a virus
[02:11] <rhineheart_m> I want to specify a homedir to give full access to my user.. so that I could simply transfer files using winscp
[02:12] <leo_rockw> zekaito: that's why there are no widespread virus in linux
[02:12] <rhineheart_m> well, here you go Flannel...may I hear your words...
[02:12] <mohamed_> hello all, i want to buy a new vga card, any recommendation which i can buy that work well with ubuntu ?
[02:12] <zekaito> thanks, but are you saying having root access while using the gui is dumb cuz I could easily screw things up?
[02:12] <rhineheart_m> mohamed_, are you building a desktop or a server?
[02:12] <chuy> yes
[02:12] <leo_rockw> zekaito: yes
[02:13] <pygmymath> zekaito: not just that, someone else could for you.
[02:13] <Dimitree> How to obtain Intel Graphics drivers for ubuntu ? Help :)
[02:13] <mohamed_> rhineheart_m, desktop
[02:13] <pygmymath> zekaito: i say that from experience aswell.. i had to reinstall a couple of times from annihilating various things.
[02:13] <rhineheart_m> mohamed_, I thought server...
[02:13] <leo_rockw> zekaito: if you're admin all the time anybody else could get admin privileges and delete every single file
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> Dimitree: depends on the intel graphics shipset
[02:13] <zekaito> by the way, I can't get my nvidia ck804 ac'97 audio card working
[02:13] <Flannel> zekaito: because a stray click while moving can copy, delete, move, whatever, stuff that shouldn't be copied/moved/etc.  Command line is much harder (although still possible) to do things by complete accident
[02:13] <rhineheart_m> so.. where's Flannel...where ya boy?
[02:13] <Dimitree> IndyGunFreak, DG31PR with GMA 3100 :)
[02:14] <mohamed_> rhineheart_mi have ATI x600 but i failed to make it run well
[02:14] <pygmymath> zekaito: drivers on the site i believe
[02:14] <Flannel> rhineheart_m: what?
[02:14] <zekaito> what site?
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> Dimitree: that makes no sense at all.. .open a terminal and type "lspci" and see how it identifies your intel graphics device
[02:14] <Ashfire908> Ok, i logged in today and i went the use the menu and the "Applications" tab was empty. i went to edit the menu and the program never started. i found the prgram's name and when i run it i get a error and a python traceback. http://pastebin.com/d336f5465
[02:14] <rhineheart_m> Flannel, I thought you have a bright idea on how to change the home dir of a user? so that I could easily manipulate files in my /var/www
[02:14] <pygmymath> zekaito: nvidia
[02:15] <CJS3141> I found an interesting "wmdockapp" at dockapps.org that I was hoping to try out--in general, are there any issues using wmdockapps with ubuntu?
[02:15] <zekaito> I found linux drivers, but none of them are .deb
[02:15] <leo_rockw> mohamed_: yeah, until the good free drivers come out ATI is not very advisable
[02:16] <pygmymath> mohamed_: if you're looking for desktop effects you'll have to roll with xgl
[02:16] <leo_rockw> pygmymath: latest fglrx has aiglx
[02:16] <SeaPhor> zekaito, Envy works well with Nvidia and ATI cards
[02:16] <leo_rockw> SeaPhor: it's for a sound card
[02:16] <Daisuke_Ido> !envy | SeanTater
[02:16] <ubotu> SeanTater: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[02:16] <Daisuke_Ido> err
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> SeanTater: do not recommend tha ttrash
[02:16] <mohamed_> leo_rockw, pygmymath i don't need effecti'm more interest in video, and images
[02:16] <Flannel> rhineheart_m: usermod will do it.  But, you'd probably be better off adding that user to the www-data group, and letting it ride the group permission coattails.
[02:16] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm not the only one who highlighted the wrong person -_-
[02:17] <zekaito> do I find that using the add/remove interface or synaptic pakage manager
[02:17] <Dimitree> IndyGunFreak,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61438/ help please i can see gpu in there ?
[02:17] <leo_rockw> lol
[02:17] <Positronic> most nvidia cards will work out of the box if the proprietary driver is enabled, zekaito
[02:17] <pygmymath> leo_rockw: thats how i rolled heh. thankfully my ati card popped and the new nvidia is in the case ready for some drivers heh
[02:17] <CJS3141> Anybody else used any wmdockapps?
[02:17] <Dimitree> cant
[02:17] <zcat[1]> what does video playback plugin in compiz actually do?
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> SeaPhor: envy is horrid advice
[02:17] <rhineheart_m> Flannel, so how to add a user with sudo power to www-data group?
[02:17] <zekaito> the graphics part works but the sound doesn't
[02:18] <leo_rockw> pygmymath: but i heard aiglx on the amd drivers are worse than using xgl (i don't use compiz, so idk)
[02:18] <SeaPhor> indy, sorry you disagree with me
[02:18] <diego27> hola
[02:18] <Johnny_5> when i use the live cd to try to recover files from a comp i'm workin' on i can't seem to get the hdd to mount. would the fact that its a NTFS file system be why?
[02:18] <leo_rockw> diego27: hey diego. only english in this channel.
[02:18] <pygmymath> leo_rockw: i couldn't run anything 3d. hopefully with nvidia ill have wine running steam heh
[02:18] <mohamed_> leo_rockw, pygmymath   unfortunately i have also new motherboard with builtin ATI x1200
[02:18] <diego27> hello
[02:18] <pygmymath> leo_rockw: compiz is nice :)
[02:18] <leo_rockw> pygmymath: yeah, to show off. i don't find it useful.
[02:19] <leo_rockw> mohamed_: i have x1400. i use fglrx (the only driver that works for me)
[02:19] <pygmymath> leo_rockw: group windows is good on a 7" screen :P extra wm actions and trailfocus heh
[02:19] <leo_rockw> diego27: ;-) lol
[02:19] <mohamed_> leo_rockw, this can work also with x1200 ?
[02:19] <leo_rockw> pygmymath: i can't hear you, i can't hear you
[02:19]  * leo_rockw buries his head in the AMD site
[02:20] <Ashfire908> the menu's "Applications" tab was empty and when i run alacarte i get a error and a python traceback. http://pastebin.com/d336f5465
[02:20] <leo_rockw> mohamed_: i'm not sure, check out in amd.com
[02:20] <mohamed_> thx, i will do
[02:20] <leo_rockw> pygmymath: i got used to not using it because it didn't run with the old fglrx drivers.
[02:20] <Flannel> rhineheart_m: sudo usermod -G www-data -a username
[02:20] <pygmymath> leo_rockw: don't worry, i mostly run console apps on this laptop :P
[02:20] <leo_rockw> pygmymath: yeah, i'm all about yakuake :-P
[02:20] <SimplySeth> is there a how to on forcing one sound card to be primary over the other ?
[02:21] <leo_rockw> mohamed_: there are fglrx drivers in the repos, but idk how updated they are
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> SeaPhor: its not just me that disagrees with you, trust me
[02:21] <FFVV> is there a apt-get openssl or anything? apt-cache search openssl didnt show the actual openssl
[02:21] <jengelh> SimplySeth: index= parameter to the module
[02:21] <pygmymath> leo_rockw: never used.. *google* mocp, finch & irssi heh.. but i got pidgin for when im browsing the webternets
[02:21] <leo_rockw> SeaPhor: easyubuntu, automatix and envy are not advisable
[02:21] <SimplySeth> jengelh: hmmm
[02:21] <Acomaco> pygmymath i did fdisk -l, it only found hdc, i did /dev/hd then pressed tab two times, and there was hdd
[02:21] <Acomaco> how can i check if that hdd is my other disk?
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> leo_rockw: i don't think easyubuntu even exists anymore
[02:21] <SeaPhor> spend 28 minutes arguing with 1 n00b, discussing stuff that should be learned as part of whether you want to do linux or not, while another n00b (ME) has had the same problem for months, and has been on here the last 3 nights and still no answer, much less a solution
[02:21] <mohamed_> leo_rockw,  everything was working fine till ubuntu gutsy installed, then no good vga from this time :)
[02:22] <leo_rockw> IndyGunFreak: neither does automatix, per se
[02:22] <SimplySeth> jengelh: index=1 .. would be primary and -2 means what ?
[02:22] <Dimitree> IndyGunFreak,  can you help please ? :)
[02:22] <jengelh> index goes from 0 anywhere upwards.
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> Dimitree: that graphics device is not supported in gutsy, it works great in hoary.
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> *hardy
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> not hoary
[02:22] <SimplySeth> jengelh: and what does -2 mean ?
[02:22] <Ashnal> So im trying to install ubutu 7.04 on a desktop and after the kernel loads the screen is blank with the blinking cursor for a few seconds then it spits out a whole screen of lines of the error "Unknown interrupt or fault in the EIP (numbers and such)"
[02:22] <jengelh> SimplySeth: A kernel panic, basically.
[02:22] <pygmymath> Acomaco: thats pretty crazy.. from here i dont have a clue to be honest
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> SeaPhor: what are you ranting about
[02:22] <SimplySeth> jengelh: weird
[02:22] <leo_rockw> mohamed_: fesity didn't even boot for me without fglrx
[02:22] <Ashfire908> the menu's "Applications" tab was empty and when i run alacarte i get a error and a python traceback. http://pastebin.com/d336f5465 kinda hard to use the menu when it's blank.
[02:22] <Dimitree> IndyGunFreak,  what is Hardy ?
[02:23] <zcat[1]> !hardy
[02:23] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:23] <jengelh> SimplySeth: maybe it's a linked list, maybe it's an array; dunno.
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> Dimitree: next version of ubuntu, out next month
[02:23] <Dimitree> cool :) can i install it now lol ?
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> Dimitree: that would be really dumb
[02:23] <leo_rockw> hardy is lts only for gnome
[02:23] <Ashfire908> sorry for repeating by hard to use the system when i havn't memorized the program's execatuable name
[02:23] <SimplySeth> jengelh: great thanks .. now I have to find out what device my sound card is using
[02:23] <SeaPhor> and if you just want to argue about Envy forget it , I agree with you in all but the cases i cant figure out on my own, Because I'm A N00b
[02:24] <Dimitree> IndyGunFreak, why dumb ? if its out next month it means that its ready no ?
[02:24] <leo_rockw> Dimitree: you could, but you'd have to be fighting bugs
[02:24]  * zcat[1] is running hardy .. seems pretty stable so far
[02:24] <IndyGunFreak> SeaPhor: all the more reason not to recommend it.. i know shit about flying a plane, so i just choose not to give advice about it.
[02:24] <Acomaco> pygmymath, what do you need to know?
[02:24] <IndyGunFreak> Dimitree: no, not at all...
[02:24] <leo_rockw> Dimitree: nope, it's all buggy
[02:24] <jengelh> SimplySeth: quoting the source: "                        /* idx == -1 == 0xffff means: take any free slot */
[02:24] <leo_rockw> Dimitree: it's there so people can install it and report bugs and help with its development
[02:24] <Dimitree> how can be out next month then ?
[02:24] <Ashnal> anyone here who can help me?
[02:24] <pygmymath> Acomaco: if fdisk -l  cant find it isnt being picked up by ubuntu, from there i dont know what the problem could be at all
[02:24] <IndyGunFreak> Dimitree: use the next month to learn how to use ubuntu, the package manager, etc, then when its time to upgrad,e upgrade and you'll have compiz
[02:24] <nickrud> IndyGunFreak clean that up, and submit it as a factoid, something like badadvice ;)
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: lol.. i've had some ringers for !badadvice..lol
[02:25] <Dimitree> IndyGunFreak, ok then thank yuo very much for the information and help :)
[02:25] <SimplySeth> jengelh: very well then .. thanks for your time .. I set to 0 .. hopefullly it will be primary
[02:25] <leo_rockw> Dimitree: if, at the very least, you don't know how to do stuff with X then hardy is not for you yet.
[02:25] <Acomaco> pygmymath, okey thank you :)
[02:26] <leo_rockw> Dimitree: you *do* know how to...
[02:26] <jengelh> SimplySeth: make sure no others go on 0
[02:26] <SeaPhor> indy, if you want me to rant, i wont, but if you think me saying to someone that doesn't know how to get their card working and have 1 thing that worked for me when nothing else would is a rant,,,get your kick/ban button ready
[02:26] <leo_rockw> Dimitree: lemme rephrase that lol. "hardy can break X" if you don't know how to live w/o X then hardy is not for you.
[02:26] <Dimitree> leo_rockw, i just want to use 1024x768 and 85h refresh rate so i can keep my eyes haha :) right now i can only do 60h refresh and its killing me
[02:26] <rhineheart_m> I can't still create directory in /var/www using winscp.. m using the username with sudo power.. any idea?
[02:26] <SimplySeth> jengelh: no ..  I can't disable my internal sound device on my lappy :-/
[02:27] <zcat[1]> hardy can break anything at all right now... if you don't know how to fix the system when it won't even boot, hardy might not be for you..
[02:27] <Twan> I'm trying to install Ubuntu remotely onto my laptop. My laptop has a PXE 2.1 client (Intel Boot Agent) installed. Is anyone familiar with installing from a desktop to a laptop with Intel boot agent?
[02:27] <leo_rockw> Dimitree: i had to fight with 2 experimental drivers to get X back.
[02:27] <jengelh> SimplySeth: uh, don't load its module.
[02:27] <SimplySeth> jengelh: ?
[02:28] <genefitz> maynards-girl: yes, I believe it does. I am running the beta now, with no issues..
[02:28] <IndyGunFreak> SeaPhor: and if you're going to go to the trouble of typing my name to alert me,t ype my whole name.. typing part oof it is uselss.
[02:28] <IndyGunFreak> !tab | SeaPhor
[02:28] <ubotu> SeaPhor: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[02:28] <Dimitree> leo_rockw,  defenatly not for me then :) too bad i have to watch this 60h refresh screen :/
[02:28] <leo_rockw> maynards-girl: the 24th
[02:28] <genefitz> correction noted
[02:28] <maynards-girl> leo_rockw, thanks
[02:28] <SeaPhor> ok, thats fine and i can accept that, but do you have any good avice on the problem at hand?
[02:28] <Ashfire908> the menu's "Applications" tab was empty and when i run alacarte i got a error about xml. python traceback: http://pastebin.com/d336f5465
[02:28] <rhineheart_m> IndyGunFreak, that can only be true to most of the IRC clients.. but not xchat
[02:29] <leo_rockw> genefitz: i'm running the beta too, i have problems with ati (like that's surprising at all...)
[02:29] <Twan> Does anyone know how to remotely install Ubuntu?
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> rhineheart_m: well i don't get alerted when soemone says "indy" or "IGF" or "Indygun".. or some other lazy way that people refer to me.
[02:29] <Flannel> Twan: What do you mean by remotely?
[02:29] <genefitz> leo_rockw: for all the great things supported in Linux, ATI has never been one of them.
[02:29] <leo_rockw> genefitz: it was ati or 400 dollars more for nvidia. i didn't have that money when i bought this lappy...
[02:30] <rhineheart_m> Flannel, got an idea about my issue?
[02:30] <leo_rockw> IndyGunFreak: i'm more lazy, i hit tab :-P
[02:30] <pygmymath> Twan: theres a guide in the community docs on the ubuntu site, google might be your best friend here
[02:30] <pygmymath> its a pretty rare thing
[02:30] <genefitz> leo_rockw: I can understand that. I am running it on a desktop. much cheaper cards.
[02:30] <IndyGunFreak> leo_rockw: thats not lazy, thats the way its supposed to be done...lol
[02:30] <leo_rockw> IndyGunFreak: i hate autocompletion... i hit tab expecting it wil autocomplete my thoughts...
[02:30] <Twan> Flannel: I have something on my laptop called 'Intel Boot Agent'. It basically uses the network card to read an image from a server to install on that system.
[02:31] <Ashfire908> could someone just tell me where the menu config file is or something?
[02:31] <Twan> Anyways, I have my PC talking to my laptop, but I don't have a server on my PC.
[02:31] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:31] <Twan> I need to find an application that can speak with my laptop using the boot agent (PXE 2.1).
[02:31] <zamnedix> Ashfire908 are you talking about for grub?
[02:31] <genefitz> leo_rockw: I haven't tried ubuntu on my notebook yet, it has the double whammy, ATI video and Sigmatel audio, nistorically, neither has been supported in Linux
[02:31] <leo_rockw> zamnedix: no, Ashfire908 is talking about gnome
[02:31] <zamnedix> oh.
[02:31] <Ashfire908> zamnedix, i know where the gurb menu is. i'm talking about the gnome menu
[02:32] <leo_rockw> genefitz: sigmatel, ati, broadcom... i win
[02:32] <Kevin_b_er> hmm
[02:32] <rhineheart_m> Is anybody here who uses winscp? I can't  create directory in /var/www using winscp.. m using the username with sudo power.. any idea?
[02:32] <Flannel> Twan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#head-b751f1c9b3b4e0c27d6bc8828a831de92eb57a70
[02:32] <genefitz> leo_rockw: I can feel your pain then.
[02:32] <Scunizi> Ashfire908, you want to edit it?
[02:32] <nickrud> genefitz my ati 200m and sigmatel 3stack (disguised as ati sb4x0) works great (and broadcom)
[02:32] <leo_rockw> genefitz: i got everything working :-D
[02:32] <pygmymath> leo_rockw: eeepc D
[02:32] <SimplySeth> whoever it was who gave me advice .. thanks again .. all seems well :)
[02:33] <nickrud> genefitz let me rephrase that, Works for Me™  ;)
[02:33] <genefitz> leo_rockw: that's great..
[02:33] <Ashfire908> sorry first i run out of space, then after i got some space i have no menu
[02:33] <Flannel> Twan: that would be netboot
[02:33] <Ashfire908> Scunizi, yes but alacale or whatever it's called crashes
[02:33] <Twan> I think I found something.
[02:33] <Twan> http://hugi.to/blog/archive/2006/12/23/ubuntu-pxe-install-via-windows
[02:33] <QDogg> I think alacarte has wrecked my applications menu. I was removing programs from my main menu (just programs that I don't use) and all of a sudden I cannot I cannot open the applications menu. I am using Gutsy
[02:33] <genefitz> leo_rockw: did you have to run that special script to get the sigmatel sound to work?
[02:33] <leo_rockw> genefitz: i compiled alsa from source
[02:34] <Scunizi> Ashfire908, you can right mouse click on Applications and choose "Edit Menus"
[02:34] <SeaPhor> i said from the start and in most that I am a n00b, i just figured out how to get to IRC 3 days ago, BUT, i am not an idiot, and i get offended when someone who is not even trying to help me in a place that i'm asking for help, tells me i'm ranting,,, fine, i get it, i've wasted 3 nights hoping here, i must admit this is the only night that i have witnessed these responses, good night and good-bye
[02:34] <SimplySeth> anybody have any issues with having to enter your password in twice using GNOME ?
[02:34] <nickrud> QDogg  try  alt-f2 killall gnome-panel , it will restart the panel and reset the menus
[02:34] <genefitz> leo_rockw: hmmm, I don't know which is worse. lol
[02:34] <pygmymath> leo_rockw: hardcore.
[02:34] <leo_rockw> bye SeaPhor, have fun
[02:34] <Twan> But yes that is talking about 'netboot'
[02:34] <leo_rockw> genefitz: it works like a charm now :-P
[02:34] <bnex10> hey i would love to disable ipv6 in general
[02:34] <bnex10> most daemons tend to use ipv6
[02:34] <Ashfire908> Scunizi, i told you, the program crashes
[02:35] <leo_rockw> pygmymath: i used to run slackware, compiling was part of my daily life :-P
[02:35] <genefitz> I always run into some kind of issue while trying to compile using Ubuntu, Strangely enough I never had many problems in Fedora.. I think because I could log in root..
[02:35] <Scunizi> SeaPhor, SeaPhor what are you trying to do that you're not getting any help on?
[02:35] <leo_rockw> Scunizi: he's just arguing that envy is good
[02:35] <pygmymath> leo_rockw: heh fair play. i've been considering slackware but.. ubuntu i love
[02:35] <pygmymath> leo_rockw: whats envy?
[02:35] <bnex10> i want to use ipv4 for network stuff (vnc and ircd)
[02:35] <bnex10> vnc and ircd will work fine without ipv6 interfering
[02:35] <leo_rockw> pygmymath: yeah, i grew tired of compiling. so i'm staying with kubuntu for a while
[02:35] <leo_rockw> !envy | pygmymath
[02:35] <ubotu> pygmymath: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[02:36] <genefitz> pygmymath: Ubuntu is more user friendly, I believe, but I do think it is limited somewhat on the power-user end.
[02:36] <Scunizi> leo_rockw, oh.. yea.. for those that don't know any better and don't know how it will break their system in the future.. too bad he had an attitude
[02:36] <pygmymath> leo_rockw: gnome > you :P
[02:36] <leo_rockw> pygmymath: i just don't like gnome
[02:36] <bnex10> kde > gnome
[02:36] <leo_rockw> bnex10: flame on! lol
[02:36] <pygmymath> genefitz: im at a hard comprimise between a boring old desktop user and a really minimal system
[02:37] <bnex10> i'm in #kubuntu too
[02:37] <Housefly7k> Hi guys, my brother is trying to install ubuntu, he has 2 Gb of RAM, what size should he make his swap?
[02:37] <Kevin_b_er> there's still plenty of ways to destroy your installation power-user style
[02:37] <Scunizi> genefitz, since the underlying system is linux and the command line is still readily available.. how is it any less power user friendly?
[02:37] <pygmymath> leo_rockw: well ill take the g, youcan have the k, alright? :P
[02:37] <Scunizi> Housefly7k, 1gig is more than enough
[02:37] <Kevin_b_er> how much hard drive space does he have to spare?
[02:37] <pygmymath> genefitz: 4gb harddisk makes you conscious.
[02:37] <leo_rockw> pygmymath: oKay :-P
[02:37] <bnex10> and no one is helping me
[02:37] <Housefly7k> Scunizi: thanks
[02:37] <bnex10> with ipv6
[02:37] <Scunizi> Housefly7k, np
[02:37] <Scunizi> Housefly7k, have him make a seperate /home as well..  he'll be happier later
[02:38] <rhineheart_m> Is anybody here who uses winscp? I can't  create directory in /var/www using winscp.. m using the username with sudo power.. any idea?
[02:38] <genefitz> Scunizi: on other systems, I am usually on root to do installations and such. Sudo is great, but it is much easier not having to add it into nearly every cli action. personal opinion mind you
[02:38] <Acomaco> rhineheart_m, try learning chmod, i found it easier :)
[02:38] <Ashfire908> i suspect that the file is gone/blank and i want to fix it, cause, a blank menu isn't useful.
[02:38] <schweeb> rhineheart_m: just because you have sudo power doesn't mean you can do whatever you'd like
[02:38] <Ashfire908> brb
[02:38] <nickrud> bnex10 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-326645/#post1660265
[02:38] <ronandi> is there a command to upload an entire directory with ftp
[02:39] <genefitz> pygmymath: I agree..
[02:39] <schweeb> rhineheart_m: to be able to make that modification remotely, you'd either need to be logged in directly as root, or somehow wrap your create command w/ sudo
[02:39] <nickrud> genefitz then do sudo -i to get a root terminal when you need one
[02:39] <Scunizi> genefitz, for those comfortable with the command line and are not afraid of borking their system by accident there are ways of acheiving root without having to use sudo every time.
[02:39] <DBAonCall> cardinal sin to use root
[02:39] <rhineheart_m> Acomaco, schweeb can't I change the homedir of the user to /var/www?
[02:39] <Scunizi> genefitz, looks like nickrud beat me to it.
[02:39] <genefitz> nickrud: I will have to remember that..
[02:39] <blankthemuffin> I'm having problems with my Intel Pro/Wireless 4965AGN running Ubuntu 7.10: blankthelappy kernel: [ 5447.780000] wlan0: No ProbeResp from current AP 00:08:a1:a1:00:56 - assume out of range
[02:40] <nickrud> Scunizi I don't beat around the bushes with people that know linux, but don't look for answers ;)
[02:40] <awmcclain> Hi all. Is there some way for apt-get  or dpkg to automatically install all dependencies?
[02:40] <genefitz> Scunizi: I have a couple different computers here, one for common use, and one just for screwing up. I have no problem totaling an OS and reloading it..
[02:40] <keith-> i was wondering why, after upgrading, I do not have the new Human-Murrine theme
[02:41] <blankthemuffin> Following which it disconnects and restarts the connection
[02:41] <Dr_willis> awmcclain,  it should install all dependencies allready. when using apt-get, but dpkg is not going to do that.
[02:41] <leo_rockw> awmcclain: that's what apt does
[02:41] <awmcclain> Hrm... not for me.
[02:41] <Scunizi> genefitz, more power to ya.. that's a great way to figure things out
[02:41] <genefitz> Isn't that how you are supposed to learn cumputers? by screwing them up, re-loading and starting over?
[02:41] <leo_rockw> genefitz: +1
[02:41] <Scunizi> genefitz, most of us have :)
[02:41] <bnex10> lol
[02:41] <leo_rockw> genefitz: as long as it is your computer
[02:41] <Housefly7k> Scunizi: he screwed up the installation somehow, and now he cant get into ubunut, recovery or windows
[02:41]  * nickrud thinks he redid the lfs install like 10 times
[02:42] <pygmymath> genefitz: yeap, its called windows me *shudder*
[02:42] <awmcclain> libmemcache-dev: Depends: libmemcache0 (= 1.4.0.rc2-1) but it is not going to be installed
[02:42] <nickrud> back when it was buggy
[02:42] <cameo351> how do i get permission to /etc/apt/sources/list ?
[02:42] <rhineheart_m> Acomaco, schweeb can't I change the homedir of the user to /var/www?
[02:42] <genefitz> I have this computer and another I playing with another system with mythbuntu.
[02:42] <awmcclain> etc etc
[02:42] <soldats> cameo351: use sudo to edit it
[02:42] <leo_rockw> cameo351: are you trying to edit that with gedit?
[02:42] <Dr_willis> cameo351,  its /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:42] <genefitz> I am trying to break free from my win-media center setup in the living room..
[02:42] <nickrud> cameo351 you would use gksu gedit  in a terminal to edit it
[02:42] <keith-> anyone know what package the new human-murrine theme is in?
[02:42] <genefitz> bad thing though, I am struggling with getting my hvr working..
[02:42] <gorlak> hey, i was curious how do i go about reconfiguring my sound server. i tried installing pulse audio, but it didnt work when i went back to just esd it seems that my 7.10 install can only play from 1 source at a time kind of like the sound server isnt working as it should anymore.
[02:43] <pygmymath> human-murrine?
[02:43] <Scunizi> Housefly7k, are you trying to help him remotely? sounds like grub is messed up.  check out htp://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[02:43] <WorkingOnWise> is there a dump search for linux? all the ones I can find are too smart for what I want. I want to search for *.* in any directory, and directory under it, and then sort the results by extension. Thing windows 95 style search
[02:43] <pygmymath> genefitz: mythbuntu?
[02:43] <leo_rockw> WorkingOnWise: man ls
[02:43] <pygmymath> WorkingOnWise: hit f3, theres a search tool in there
[02:43] <awmcclain> Dr_willis: Is there something special with -dev packages that prevents apt from downloading dependecies?
[02:43] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise   ls -R | sort
[02:43] <genefitz> pybmymath, kubuntu with mythtv. Kinda like Linux based media center
[02:44] <genefitz> pygmymath even
[02:44] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise sort, you'll have to figure out the exact syntax you want yourself
[02:44] <Dr_willis> awmcclain,  never noticed that apt-get installing a dev package, not gettting dependencies.. could be the package maker did not  enable any dependencies. but may have 'reccomendations' instead.,
[02:44] <awmcclain> Dr_willis: Here's my log: libmemcache-dev: Depends: libmemcache0 (= 1.4.0.rc2-1) but it is not going to be installed
[02:44] <pygmymath> genefitz: mythbuntu is like ubuntu studio heh. but sounds good
[02:45] <awmcclain> Dr_willis: And a bunch more like it
[02:45] <pygmymath> WorkingOnWise: alt+f3 i mean
[02:45] <Dr_willis> awmcclain,   that sounds more like a apt data base issue, or package bug., update, upgrade, try installing again.
[02:45] <genefitz> pygmymath: a lot like.. http://www.mythbuntu.org/
[02:46] <Dr_willis> awmcclain,  or there may be some reason that the -dev package does not consider the lib of the package a dep. Ive never noticed it befor. I tend to always install both on the sme command line
[02:46] <leo_rockw> awmcclain: do you have anything not official in your sources.list?
[02:46] <pygmymath> pygmymath: yeah .. i said that! :P
[02:46] <genefitz> My livingroom has a Win-vista based media center set-up (used only for multimedia) I have tried several media center (myth) based linux systems.. So far, to no avail..
[02:46] <leo_rockw> pygmymath: you're talking to yourself now?
[02:46] <awmcclain> leo_rockw: Only the bzr launchpad sources
[02:46] <yuji_> what is a simple / good way to archive an entire site? can somebody reccomend something?
[02:46] <pygmymath> genefitz: yeah .. i said that! :P
[02:46] <pygmymath> *shame*
[02:46] <leo_rockw> pygmymath: lol
[02:47] <cj_burchfield> hello all
[02:47] <pygmymath> leo_rockw: 3am here :P
[02:47] <leo_rockw> cj_burchfield: hello
[02:47] <cj_burchfield> i've a quick question.
[02:47] <Scunizi> !ask | cj_burchfield
[02:47] <ubotu> cj_burchfield: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:47] <genefitz> pygmymath: lol, I guess ya did
[02:47] <cj_burchfield> lol.
[02:47] <Dr_willis> awmcclain,  as a test i did a   sudo apt-get install  libsdl-console-dev, and it did install the  libsdl-console also here.
[02:48] <awmcclain> Dr_willis: Ok, let me update.
[02:48] <awmcclain> Dr_willis: Err... upgrade
[02:48] <cj_burchfield> i want to use my blackberry pearl as a modem in ubuntu.  In windows, the BB desktop manager has to be running to do this.  question is:  can it be done, and if so, how?
[02:48] <genefitz> But back on Ubuntu, I have to say, after using hardy for a bit, I have to say I am quite impressed, very few issues, runs like a charm, and is even more user friendly than previous distros.
[02:48] <Housefly7k> Scunizi: yeah I am helping him over the phone, sorry for the delayed response i keep flipping between webpages and IRC
[02:49] <genefitz> I am quite surprised, I have had to do minimal terminal work, and even the Ubuntu supplied nVidia drivers haven't errored out on me..
[02:49] <leo_rockw> genefitz: i like kubuntu hardy so far, after i tweaked it for 3 days :-P
[02:49] <pygmymath> genefitz: i tried to roll with th xandros poo that came installed on this comp when i got it.. and wanted to dragon punch it in about twenty minutes
[02:49] <tacers> hey io soi de slp
[02:49] <Dr_willis> genefitz,  i had some issues with the nvidia stuff.. but i got them going.
[02:49] <tacers> alguien abla español?
[02:49] <gorlak> anyone know where i can find instructions on the ESD sound system, my system only plays from 1 sound source at a time now (after i tried to change sound mixing servers)
[02:49] <Scunizi> Housefly7k, you got your work cut out for you.. maybe you can ssh into his box running the live cd and get it done for him.. or better yet use vnc (terminal services client)
[02:49] <Dimitree> leo_rockw,  well i just did a xorg reconfig and now i have 1024x768 85hz refresh rate wohoo :) the only thing remaining is my keyboard ... it seams i can_t type the thing that goes in (can_t) the underline ...
[02:49] <leo_rockw> tacers: solo ingles aca, #ubuntu-es
[02:49] <georgy_28> ! es
[02:49] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:50] <Nasra> question: how do I set up MSN / Yahoo chat in Ubuntu?
[02:50] <genefitz> pygmymath: Xandros is great for very new users, I believe, I never was impressed, even less to spend money on it.
[02:50] <cj_burchfield> Nasra: do you have gaim installed?
[02:50] <soldats> Nasra: with pidgin you can
[02:50] <leo_rockw> Dimitree: what kind of keyboard do you have?
[02:50] <genefitz> leo_rockw: really?
[02:50] <leo_rockw> Dimitree: unless you use kde i won't be able to help you
[02:50] <cj_burchfield> excuse me, pidgin.
[02:50] <Nasra> gaim or pidgin ????
[02:50] <genefitz> Dr_willis: what card are you using?
[02:50] <cj_burchfield> it's pidgin now.
[02:50] <Housefly7k> Scunizi: yeah, he wasnt able to launch live cd so he went with the alternate cd... I think it may be because he used the 64 bit
[02:50] <Dimitree> leo_rockw, no using gnome :)
[02:50] <cj_burchfield> it was gaim years ago.
[02:50] <soldats> Nasra: install pidgin
[02:51] <Dr_willis> genefitz,  8800gtsxxx
[02:51] <Dimitree> how can i reconfigure my standart english keyboard ?
[02:51] <leo_rockw> genefitz: si...
[02:51] <Scunizi> Housefly7k, did you tell him to get the 32bit?
[02:51] <dimas_> if i am streaming music with my original ip number with with a port number is that danger?
[02:51] <pygmymath> genefitz: never bought, came on the eee heh. but it isnice for a basic user.. but i've come from ubuntu and ubuntu is where im staying heh
[02:51] <cj_burchfield> beg pardon, dimas?
[02:51] <Dr_willis> genefitz,  the restricted manager tool dident enable/download the package correctly. Once i manually apt-get'ed the glx-new package it took off.
[02:51] <Housefly7k> Scunizi: he just said he went into recovery mode when it did work and reinstalled grub on the windows partition...could this be causing the problems?
[02:51] <cj_burchfield> streaming music to where?
[02:51] <blankthemuffin> How does one install the kernel headers for ubuntu?
[02:51] <Nasra> cj_burchfield / soldats....no I don't have the gaim
[02:51] <genefitz> Dr_willis: I read something about the 8800 series having issues. The 8500 in this one, using the Ubuntu provided (restricted) drivers loaded up like a charm
[02:52] <cj_burchfield> blank, probably thru synaptic.
[02:52] <Dr_willis> genefitz,  it was ent the card or the driver thats the issue.. it was the restricted-manager-whatever-its-called-now tool.
[02:52] <Cpudan80> blankthemuffin: IIRC the package is kernel-source (you also need build-essential)
[02:52] <cj_burchfield> should be a package in there somehwere.
[02:52] <cj_burchfield> aha.
[02:52] <cj_burchfield> indeed.
[02:52] <Housefly7k> Scunizi: yeah he is currently in the process of reinstalling, so i told him to continue and if it didnt work to get the 32 bit
[02:52] <Scunizi> Housefly7k, if he has more than one hd then grub needs to be put on the boot drive (main) like the partition that windows is on
[02:52] <soldats> Nasra: look for pidgin in your menu and open it if you have it and select eh msn or yahoo prptocol
[02:52] <blankthemuffin> Thanks Cpudan80
[02:52] <Cpudan80> !kernel-source | blankthemuffin
[02:52] <ubotu> blankthemuffin: To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[02:52] <Scunizi> Housefly7k, he'll want the 32 later.. 64 for a noob can be daunting
[02:52] <genefitz> Dr_willis, yeah, I suppose we all get a bad bit from time to time..
[02:52] <Dr_willis> I still think we need a first-time-wizard to set up a lot of this common stuff. But then ya end up with a 20 min question/answer session on the first boot.
[02:52] <pygmymath> Nasra: or do alt+f2 and type pidgin, hit enter
[02:52] <Twan> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu remotely using PXE. I am not sure if my DHCP Server values on Tftpd32 were correctly set. How can I know?
[02:52] <dimas_> cj_burchfield if i publish my ip number with port number to the public to them liseten the music throw any music player is that danger?
[02:53] <Nasra> soldats ...  I have pidgin
[02:53] <Housefly7k> Scunizi: no, one hard drive
[02:53] <cj_burchfield> if you're not behind a firewall, probably.
[02:53] <awmcclain> Dr_willis: Actually, maybe this will help. I have a custom debian package I  built for ubuntu for lighttpd 1.5.0... can I somehow convert that into an apt package??
[02:53] <cj_burchfield> my personal suggestion is not to do that.
[02:53] <Scunizi> Housefly7k, then he shouldn't have an issue getting grub to the right place.. if you have more than one drive it can get weird
[02:53] <dimas_> what that could cause?
[02:53] <soldats> Nasra: open it and select  the MSN or YAHOO protocol and use your user name to connect, it can support multiple protocols
[02:53] <cj_burchfield> you ask for more trouble than it's worth.
[02:54] <Nasra> soldats...I am doing right now...
[02:54] <Dr_willis> awmcclain,  devbian uses deb packages - same as ubuntu.
[02:54] <genefitz> pygmymath: like I said, I tried Xandros, but was sorely unimpressed. Some people swear by it, but I guess to each their own..
[02:54] <cj_burchfield> many things, one of which is the corruption of your OS.
[02:54] <cj_burchfield> you're in ubuntu doing this?
[02:54] <Dr_willis> awmcclain,  thers no 'apt'pacakges. its the apt-get system that uses .deb packages. :)
[02:54] <georgy_28> awmcclain, : sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[02:54] <Housefly7k> Scunizi: yeah, well hopefully this install will work, if not we'll try the 32 bit livecd, then the 32bit alternate :) But thanks for the help, and if I need more I'll be sure to come back
[02:55] <Dr_willis> genefitz,  many alternative disrtos are one-hit wonders. they shine in one limited area/tool they hage that makes it handy.. but other then that tool.. they fall down.
[02:55] <dimas_> cj_burchfield how you suggest me to stream to the public music as me as the server? is there any ways to script my ip?
[02:55] <awmcclain> georgy_28: It doesn't install dependencies, which is my problem.
[02:55] <cj_burchfield> use a service, such as shoutcast.
[02:55] <Scunizi> Housefly7k, all 1200+ of us are here just waiting to help :)
[02:55] <Dr_willis> awmcclain,  dpkg will NOT install depenncies.. thats what 'apt-get' and the repos and their database is for.
[02:55] <cj_burchfield> google 'broadcast internet radio'
[02:55] <cj_burchfield> minus the quotes.
[02:55] <Dr_willis> awmcclain,  if you start using dpkg whatever.deb then YOU are responsable for the dependenciues
[02:55] <dimas_> free?
[02:56] <soldats> dimas_: yes
[02:56] <awmcclain> Dr_willis: Exactly. I don't want to. Can I use apt-get with a local deb file?
[02:56] <cj_burchfield> yes.
[02:56] <Nasra> soldats: it shuts itself up unexpectedly...don't now what happens ....it does not wanna run by itself
[02:56] <genefitz> Dr_willis, I agree. I tend to stick to the greats, Ubuntu quickly becoming one of them. Previously, I was always a Redhat/Fedora user.
[02:56] <cj_burchfield> as was I, genefitz.
[02:56] <soldats> Nasra: does it give an eoor
[02:56] <georgy_28> awmcclain, : sudo gdbi-gtk package.deb
[02:56] <cj_burchfield> ah, the error of my ways.
[02:56] <genefitz> One thing I had to give them credit for was the RPM. I do like the system
[02:56] <Dr_willis> awmcclain,  no you can not.. thats how the system works.  You can track down all the .debs needed and isntall them all at one time with dpkg ifyou want.
[02:56] <Nasra> no
[02:56] <soldats> Nasra: any errors?
[02:56] <Nasra> soldats....no errors
[02:56] <andresj> I just sent a bug to Launchpad (well, actually it was a couple of hours ago). https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/208556 The solution is there, all that is missing is to create a patch (very straightforward) and create an update to the distribution. Anybody willing to help here?
[02:56] <Dr_willis> genefitz,  i tested out mandriva, and sidux this month. both are gone now. :)
[02:56] <Nasra> just starting and then just stop and shuts up
[02:57] <dimas_> cj_burchfield do you know VLC?
[02:57] <awmcclain> Dr_willis: Such a hassle. Couldn't I host my own repository?
[02:57] <cj_burchfield> the media player?
[02:57] <Nasra> is there any other way to start or run it?
[02:57] <dimas_> yeah
[02:57] <andresj> sorry. use https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/208556 instead.
[02:57] <Dr_willis> awmcclain,  tracking down a few deps is a hassle ? minimal hassle compared to making your own repo...
[02:57] <awmcclain> georgy_28: Does that require a display other than TTY?
[02:57] <cj_burchfield> i use it.
[02:57] <cj_burchfield> on windows.
[02:57] <genefitz> Dr_willis, Mandriva One is a great system, out of the box, but it runs slow, seemingly on everything it touches.
[02:58] <georgy_28> awmcclain, : yes, X
[02:58] <dimas_> there is something i dont understand but i have to come back to you in a minute
[02:58] <cj_burchfield> indeed.
[02:58] <awmcclain> Dr_willis: I'm automating all of this, so that's why I ask.
[02:58] <Dr_willis> genefitz,  yep. It had some neat features. I wonder where that stand alone flash player came from they got.
[02:58] <cj_burchfield> Mandriva has been crap for a while.
[02:58] <cj_burchfield> ok.
[02:58] <soldats> Nasra: thas weird i dont know what to say other than doing a ctrl+alt+F1 and seeing if errors are there. to switch back do ctrl+alt+F7
[02:59] <Dr_willis> awmcclain, if the deps are in the repos you can apt-get them first, then dpkg the homemade package I guess..  I rarely mess with individual debs.
[02:59] <Dr_willis> awmcclain,  what may be a bigger issue are the version/package changes on down the line. if your deb wants foobar1.2 and 1.3 comes out.. it may not like it.
[02:59] <genefitz> Dr_willis, I dunno. What I liked about it was the addition of the restricted drivers and codecs out of the box. And the L-additions, which is kind of a turn-on for Linspire (another Ubuntu derivitive)
[02:59] <Daisuke_Ido> g'morning Dr_willis
[02:59] <Dr_willis> genefitz,  i wonder how they legally did that. :)
[03:00] <awmcclain> Dr_willis: What about hosting on launchpad?
[03:00] <cj_burchfield> what is this launchpad crap?
[03:00] <dimas_> cj_burchfield what is RTP multicast?
[03:00] <Dr_willis> awmcclain,   you could try it i guess. Ive never done it.
[03:00] <Twan> jesus christ this is insane
[03:00] <cj_burchfield> all i want to do is order a ubuntu CD.
[03:00] <Twan> the remote installation i finally got working
[03:00] <Twan> technology is unbelievable
[03:00] <Daisuke_Ido> since when is linspire an ubuntu derivative?
[03:00] <cj_burchfield> to the best of my knowledge, it's what you want to do.
[03:00] <Scunizi> !launchpad | cj_burchfield
[03:00] <genefitz> Dr_willis, because One is a paid distro, they pay for the license use for the restricted drivers and codecs
[03:00] <ubotu> cj_burchfield: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[03:00] <Dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  i was wondering that also.
[03:01] <Dr_willis> genefitz,  the copy i had was a free download.. :) but it may been some special variant.
[03:01] <leo_rockw> genefitz: i don't like they put the restricted drivers and so on. i'm always for a free distro.
[03:01] <cj_burchfield> i see.
[03:01] <cj_burchfield> all i want is a ubuntu CD mailed to me.
[03:01] <Daisuke_Ido> cj_burchfield, while sourceforge is like the open source graveyard, most things in launchpad are actively being worked on :)
[03:01] <dimas_> in VLC when you streaming...what is RTP multicast?
[03:01] <Dr_willis> there comes a time when you want your system to just work. :)
[03:01] <cj_burchfield> i see.
[03:01] <cj_burchfield> interesting.
[03:01] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: what about google?
[03:02] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: they have a lot of projects too, and most are active
[03:02] <genefitz> leo_rockw, I would agree with you, I mean, I don't mind doing the extra terminal work, but one is looking to set it up on someone's computer that may be a little terminal-phobic, it is a great option, if some is willing to pay for it.
[03:02] <Daisuke_Ido> leo_rockw, definitely, i wasn't comparing them (or freshmeat, for that matter)
[03:02] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: oh, ok
[03:03] <leo_rockw> genefitz: definately, but i like how ubuntu lets you choose a more freedomish environment
[03:03] <cj_burchfield> there we go.
[03:03] <Nith> dimas_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-time_Transport_Protocol
[03:03] <cj_burchfield> ah, i feel better already.
[03:03] <bnex10> ?
[03:03] <genefitz> I love linux, and there have been some great strides in the system. Historically the biggest draw back has been user-friendliness. But it is getting better.
[03:04] <genefitz> leo_rockw, again, I agree.
[03:04] <smallhappy> hi
[03:04] <cj_burchfield> so, anybody, can i use my pearl as a modem in ubuntu?
[03:04] <leo_rockw> hello smallhappy
[03:04] <Nith> hi smallhappy
[03:04] <smallhappy> hello, leo and nith
[03:04] <Nasra> soldats....gotta working thanks....
[03:04] <Nasra> MSN
[03:05] <Y1MMMY> could some one help with flash in konquror
[03:05] <cj_burchfield> indeed.
[03:05] <Dr_willis> genefitz,  i find the term 'user-friendly' to be its own ball and chain. Its a meanignless term in so many ways. :)
[03:05] <mortal1> does anyone here know how to start a graphical application over ssh and have it show on the remote system?
[03:05] <Scunizi> Y1MMMY, you might try in #kubuntu
[03:05] <cj_burchfield> and i like the fact that more and more businesses are integrating linux into their IT systems.
[03:05] <soldats> Nasra: awesome
[03:05] <bnex10> mortal1: that's vnc
[03:06] <Dr_willis> mortal1,  show on the remote? Hmm.. ssh in, use xhost + command,  export the display, run the app. be sure to not ssh -X in. ?
[03:06] <ethan961> !flash | Y1MMMY
[03:06] <ubotu> Y1MMMY: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:06] <cj_burchfield> mortal1, probably some fancy command starting with 'startx'
[03:06] <genefitz> Dr_willis, I do agree with you on that. But I do understand that there are some people who are not willing to learn anything about cli commands and such to use a computer.
[03:06] <bnex10> nvm
[03:06] <Dr_willis> mortal1,  thats about what i did ages ago with telnet.
[03:06] <leo_rockw> mortal1: i know how to start a graphical application over ssh in your local system.
[03:06] <Nasra> soldats: since I am new to Ubuntu today I managed to get 2 things working my printer...chat ...and Xchat working (3 things) great isn't it?
[03:06] <cj_burchfield> lol.
[03:06] <bnex10> what about viewing an existing display?
[03:07] <genefitz> I loaded Ubuntu on my fathers computer when I visited him, but it scared him that I spent 2 hours after installing, in the terminal getting it ready for him with drivers, codecs and such..
[03:07] <Dr_willis> genefitz,   recall all these 'web-pc's' ages ago that never got popular? that was the ultimate in user-friendly ness..  - make them idiot-friendly through total removal of flexibilty. Is wwhere the 'UF' road often leads.
[03:07] <Daisuke_Ido> genefitz, i ran into the same issue with my inlaws
[03:07] <rooibos> I installed Sun JRE 5.0 and it has java 1.5.  But when I tried to install and run Aptana, it says I have java 1.4, blackdown Java.  Help? Thanks.
[03:07] <soldats> Nasra: good job! good luck. hope everything works out for you
[03:07] <Y1MMMY> ne1
[03:07] <cj_burchfield> lol
[03:07] <Elv1313> mortal1: use "DISPLAY=0" before the command
[03:07] <bnex10> display :0 over ssh?
[03:07] <Daisuke_Ido> but now they can't imagine being without it, since i've shown them how to do what they need
[03:07] <Elv1313> yes
[03:07] <cj_burchfield> yeah, often user-friendly means plan for the stupid idiot.
[03:08] <genefitz> Dr_willis, I do remember, and yes, there is a sacrifice
[03:08] <Dr_willis> if people had the same expectations of 'user friendlyness' in cars, as they do pc's  - My car would auto-start as i walked towards it. and tune in my radio, and have me a cup of coffe hot, and in the cupholder, befor i sat down. :)
[03:08] <Elv1313> it is a local variable, ssh use local variable from host
[03:08] <cj_burchfield> o0o, that'd be nice.
[03:08] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis: you should sell cars, i would buy one of those :-P
[03:08] <Nasra> > soldats....now my next thing is the dowloading and find the files ... and make work....like I used to do it in windows.....especially those with exe...
[03:08] <cj_burchfield> as would i.
[03:08] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis, i pray for that day to arrive.
[03:08] <genefitz> Daisuke_Ido, but after it was installed, and the terminal work was done, he says he rarely uses his windows system anymore
[03:08] <Dr_willis> People seem to have these weird expections that a very complex tool - should be both 'idiot-proof' and  'able to do whatever quirky thing they want ' at a givem moment. :)
[03:08] <cj_burchfield> lol.
[03:09] <cj_burchfield> spoken like a true programmer.
[03:09] <leo_rockw> Nasra: no need for that
[03:09] <bnex10> i would like to be able to view an existing display (:0) over ssh
[03:09] <leo_rockw> Nasra: you have a huge list of apps in synaptic
[03:09] <Nasra> soldats...running Ubuntu like a week ago
[03:09] <leo_rockw> Nasra: no more hunting for apps
[03:09] <Dr_willis> That 'asus EEE desktop' pc - will be womthing to keep an eye on for the near future!
[03:09] <Nasra> yes sir that is correct
[03:09] <cj_burchfield> you want to see a remote computer's display on your display?
[03:09] <john_doe> how do I make my system suspend from comand line (bash)?
[03:09] <pygmymath> Dr_willis: I may have had to build the car myself, but this baby has coffee in the holder when i boot it :)
[03:09] <soldats> john_doe: xset dpms suspend
[03:10] <pygmymath> Dr_willis: I'm typing to you from one running ubuntu now :)
[03:10] <Dr_willis> pygmymath,  there ya go..
[03:10] <genefitz> Dr_willis, yes, and no, it really has a lot to do with the person. I mean, if someone is wanting to do extraordinary things, yes, that is a little out of reach, but remember the "common" user is kind of an idiot..
[03:10] <soldats> john_doe: its a monitor setting
[03:10] <cj_burchfield> true.
[03:10] <bnex10> [23:09] <cj_burchfield> you want to see a remote computer's display on your display? <--- yes
[03:10] <cj_burchfield> VNC, my friend.
[03:10] <Nasra> leo_rockw: Synaptic package manager?
[03:10] <cj_burchfield> or as windows calls it, remote desktop.
[03:10] <kindofabuzz> memphis whoopin' some @$%!!
[03:10] <genefitz> Dr_willis, what I mean is that many just want to load it and have it ready to run out of the box, and I can respect that.
[03:10] <leo_rockw> Nasra: yes
[03:10] <bnex10> i know vnc
[03:10] <jars> anyone interested in creating a custum Ubuntu LiveCD for 50USD?
[03:11] <nickrud> genefitz clueless <> idiot
[03:11] <Dr_willis> genefitz,  its amazing how these 'total computer novices' i often teach decide that they NEED their pc to do things in very odd ways.. because they cant learn how  to manage the machine. the '10000 icons on the desktop' of many windows users is a case in point. :)
[03:11] <leo_rockw> Nasra: i'm not using ubuntu with gnome, but i believe that's the name
[03:11] <Nasra> leo_rockw: everything is in there all applecations
[03:11] <pygmymath> The common user doesnt exsist. I've seen someone who's clueless with xp and lived in ubuntu for a month
[03:11] <john_doe> soldats: thanks!
[03:11] <cj_burchfield> LOL!
[03:11] <Nasra> yes sir it's
[03:11] <cj_burchfield> that cracks me up.
[03:11] <leo_rockw> Nasra: any app you feel like getting is in that list
[03:11] <bnex10> but since THE STUPID IPv6 SCREWING MY THING it dont work
[03:11] <soldats> john_doe: np
[03:11] <Dr_willis> genefitz,  that eee desktop - will be such a solution. :) when you limit the hardware.. you gain in manyw ays.
[03:11] <leo_rockw> Nasra: so searching for apps online is pointless
[03:11] <cj_burchfield> eh?
[03:11] <Daisuke_Ido> bnex10, what'
[03:11] <cj_burchfield> IPv6?
[03:11] <Nasra> leo_rockw: and is safe and supported?
[03:11] <Daisuke_Ido> err...  what's up with the what now?
[03:11] <cj_burchfield> screwing your thing?
[03:11] <Dr_willis> genefitz,  given the varity in PC hardware. im suprised any OS works. :)
[03:11] <cj_burchfield> computer sex...bad.
[03:11] <leo_rockw> Nasra: yup
[03:12] <Nasra> leo_rockw: then let me explore it then
[03:12] <Nasra> thanks
[03:12] <bnex10> yes
[03:12] <leo_rockw> Nasra: no problem
[03:12] <bnex10> well
[03:12] <jars> hello all.  I'm new to the chat room, looking for some help with a liveCD
[03:12] <genefitz> Dr_willis, I do agree with you. Me I have 3 icons, and all three are there because the system put them there. My storage drive, and my networked media sources. Other than that, I am all about the menu.
[03:12] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis: given the variaty of hardware... i'm surprised debian exists
[03:12] <bnex10> windows dont support ::ffff:<IP_ADDRESS>:6667
[03:12] <cesurasean> I can help you with a live cd jars.
[03:12] <cj_burchfield> sure it does.
[03:13] <bnex10> and nothing works!
[03:13] <leo_rockw> genefitz: i'm all about katapult :-P
[03:13] <genefitz> Dr_willis, again, I agree. It amazes me
[03:13] <Dr_willis> leo_rockw,  given the debian devs attitudes... oh wait.. i WONT go there..... :)
[03:13] <cj_burchfield> <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:13] <cesurasean> jars, send me a message.
[03:13] <bnex10> i did that
[03:13] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis: lol
[03:13] <genefitz> leo_rockw, lol
[03:13] <rhineheart_m> Is debian complicated than ubuntu?
[03:13] <jars> ces-- I need to create a custom liveCD with some security options, for use on library computers
[03:13] <Dr_willis> leo_rockw,  :) i dont wish to sterotype based on a few bad eggs.. :)
[03:13] <bnex10> but connection failed
[03:13] <cj_burchfield> you don't have IPv4 installed with IPv6?
[03:13] <rooibos> can someone help me with JVM versions?
[03:13] <jars> ces-- i've tried to create one before, but had many issues with getting it how i need.
[03:13] <leo_rockw> rhineheart_m: debian developers are stereotyped as being... not too friendly
[03:13] <bnex10> both are installed
[03:13] <Dr_willis> rhineheart_m,  its not as polished in ways.. but  if youlearn the linux fundamentals. debian wont  be too hard.
[03:13] <genefitz> rhineheart_m, yes and no.
[03:13] <Daisuke_Ido> rhineheart_m, same concept as far as package management, but it's not nearly as polished
[03:14] <Flannel> jars: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[03:14] <cj_burchfield> i believe you can use IPv4 on that adapter,
[03:14] <Daisuke_Ido> ugh doc, you beat me again
[03:14] <bnex10> but it's interfering
[03:14] <bnex10> how
[03:14] <cj_burchfield> !IPv4
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipv4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <bnex10> ?
[03:14] <FloodBot1> bnex10: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:14] <john_doe> soldats: it doesn't work. it just shows help of xset...
[03:14] <Nasra> leo_rockw: how do I make program to work like with the .exe extension?.....don't know howto...
[03:14] <Scunizi> !enter | bnex
[03:14] <ubotu> bnex: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:14] <cj_burchfield> check all your network settings.
[03:14] <leo_rockw> Nasra: what do you mean?
[03:14] <pygmymath> genefitz: due to 7" screen i dont have a window list - i use alt+tab. I use the kboard more than the touchpad fail thing so i tend to run stuff with alt+f2 or in a terminal (which is shortcutted)
[03:14] <antbee> rooibos: type this in a terminal update-alternatives --config java
[03:14] <bnex10> ok?
[03:14] <john_doe> how do I see or execute what xfce does?
[03:14] <cj_burchfield> i can't remember at this moment.
[03:15] <cj_burchfield> any help people?
[03:15] <cj_burchfield> where can he find the setting to use IPv4?
[03:15] <Nith> Nasra: you're interested in wine. I dont have any experience w/ it though
[03:15] <rhineheart_m> well, quick question.. which is better in terms of performance.. like speed.. debian or ubuntu?
[03:15] <soldats> john_doe: try 'xset dpme force standby' it will only standby the monitor, is the normal standby not working
[03:15] <orran> Hey is three any good audio programs
[03:15] <Dr_willis> !ipv6
[03:15] <bnex10> probably in root stuff.
[03:15] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[03:15] <Nasra> leo_rockw: let's say I get program download to my box....and then I want something to be executed using the .exe.....how do I do that?
[03:15] <genefitz> pygmymath: 7" screen? are you using a pocket PC or tablet?
[03:15] <soldats> john_doe: try 'xset dpms force standby' it will only standby the monitor, is the normal standby not working sorry whoops
[03:15] <cj_burchfield> check that link.
[03:15] <jars> cesurasean -- i sent youa  message did you receive?
[03:15] <bnex10> pocket PC
[03:16] <bnex10> :D
[03:16] <Nith> !wine | Nasra
[03:16] <ubotu> Nasra: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[03:16] <cj_burchfield> read the link ubotu sent.
[03:16] <leo_rockw> Nasra: you don't download programs anymore, you just install them from synaptic and they will automagically appear in your menu
[03:16] <jars> ces- try to send me one if you did not...
[03:16] <Kevin_b_er> You could try running the gnome script which executes the suspend off of the GUI
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Nasra, exe is a windows extension..
[03:16] <Dr_willis> Nasra,  wine basic ussage, wine path/to/whatever.exe   - often a .exe is set to auto launch wine when clicked on. but that is not reliable.
[03:16]  * Nith smiles as its the first time he's ever used that