[07:01] <starz> hm rpc interesting... let me traceroute them
[07:01] <steven07> yes im using kubuntu
[07:01] <po0f> steven07: Yes.
[07:01] <kakashi> starz thats cool man i just got ubuntu ( my first linux os ) XD
[07:02] <starz> awesome kakashi ! its great for that!
[07:02] <illriginal> Does anyone know the command to make all users root? In other words, let them all have access to my files read/write?
[07:02] <kakashi> starz oh hey well when I typed the command  ndiswrapper -i /home/kakashi/drivers/NETw39x5.inf
[07:02] <starz> if you wanna play around a bit check otu the enlightenment stuff.. it adds some really fun and kewl looking stuff to it...
[07:02] <po0f> starz: Not uhh, Gentoo is.  ;)
[07:02] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, ?? do you want to make all folders read/write for everyone or make everyone root?
[07:02] <starz> po0f, lol
[07:03] <po0f> starz: Hey, it was my first distro.  :)
[07:03] <starz> po0f, my next system i go to that.. i dont wanna deal with compile times on this thing
[07:03] <starz> mine was debian XD
[07:03] <rhainur> it says "mount: Not a directory"
[07:03] <rhainur> :(
[07:03] <rhainur> and I'm sure the directory exists
[07:03] <illriginal> yes pppoe_dude
[07:03] <po0f> rhainur: sudo mkdir /media/iso && sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso /media/iso
[07:03] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, making all users root is not a good idea, neither is making all folders read/write
[07:03] <illriginal> i want to make everyone able to read/write
[07:03] <starz> kakashi, ok good you did that bit and it did it? do :: ndiswrapper -l
[07:04] <starz> o and po0f <3 &&
[07:04] <illriginal> i would just like to have more control over my pc...
[07:04] <rhainur> nope
[07:04] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, however, a better idea would be to set /home to '775' -R hence making all folders within home r/w
[07:04] <rhainur> it says the folder already exists
[07:04] <starz> illriginal, your in the right place
[07:04] <rhainur> cannot create
[07:04] <jdrake> Any ideas on how to get the open dialog in gnome to not display hidden (.*) files?
[07:04] <rhainur> so the folder is there
[07:04] <kakashi> starz do I need the 2 colin marks
[07:04] <starz> kakashi, no only from ndiswrapper
[07:04] <jdrake> oops, nvm
[07:04] <Roberto55> how can i make it host for ssh
[07:04] <po0f> rhainur: What's the path to the iso?
[07:04] <starz> Roberto55, sudo apt-get install ssh
[07:04] <rhainur> it's in the same folder I'm running the command from
[07:05] <Roberto55> i do it
[07:05] <Roberto55> thanks
[07:05] <rhainur> I tried ./
[07:05] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, or 755
[07:05] <rhainur> and it made no difference
[07:05] <kakashi> starz lol its telling me no ver found of ndis
[07:05] <starz> Roberto55, for security they dont include the ssh server by default
[07:05] <illriginal> 775 yes
[07:05] <steven07> po0f...it says packages couldnt be found
[07:05] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, or probably easier to just issue chmod a+r+w -R /home
[07:05] <Roberto55> interesting
[07:05] <po0f> steven07: Do you have universe/multiverse activated?
[07:05] <starz> kakashi, ndiswrapper -l
[07:05] <starz> do that exactly
[07:05] <kakashi> kk
[07:05] <illriginal> pppoe_dude will i also be able to use the hard drive that im goin to mount? or will i have to add a command to that too?
[07:05] <steven07> .no what is that?
[07:06] <ott0> what language are the scripts run by init written in?
[07:06] <starz> Roberto55, if they did include it you would be more open to dictionary attacks: ie cracking
[07:06] <ott0> during startup
[07:06] <kakashi> starz Error: no versions of ndiswrapper found!
[07:06] <starz> sigh.
[07:06] <rhainur> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /home/ellipsis/war3.iso /mnt/war3
[07:06] <po0f> ott0: sh/bash
[07:06] <rhainur> that is what I'm doing
[07:06] <kazuka> well that sure crashed my ubuntu
[07:06] <rhainur> I've got warcraft on my windows partition
[07:06] <Marcos-PR> help
[07:06] <Marcos-PR> I am in live compact disc, and want to place an archive in pendrive but it says that nao I have permio as I make to place the archive
[07:06] <rhainur> trying to see if it'll run under WINE
[07:06] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, should be fine with just chmod
[07:06] <kakashi> starz what they world? why would it say that I installed the program
[07:07] <ott0> oh... I thought that was before the shell is started
[07:07] <rhainur> and it asks for the Cd
[07:07] <rhainur> actually
[07:07] <steven07> po0f how do i enable that?
[07:07] <rhainur> that might be a more complicated problem than I think
[07:07] <rhainur> :/
[07:07] <starz> kakashi, sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper*
[07:07] <po0f> rhainur: So it mounts correctly?
[07:07] <rhainur> no it doesn't
[07:07] <illriginal> ok :)
[07:07] <rhainur> keeps on saying "mount: Not a directory"
[07:07] <Marcos-PR> nao consigo colocar aquivo em /media/usbdisk
[07:07] <Marcos-PR> I am using LiveCD
[07:07] <po0f> !universe
[07:07] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:07] <rhainur> and I don't have my original warcraft CD with me :(
[07:08] <kakashi> starz error couldn't find package
[07:08] <rhainur> maybe the iso file is corrupted?
[07:08] <rhainur> D:
[07:08] <po0f> rhainur: file /mnt/war3
[07:08] <kakashi> starz do i have to point it to the package?
[07:08] <steven07> po0f??
[07:08] <ott0> this description of linux startup http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/KanjiFlash/BPTour.htm has step 8. Init Program (Process 1) Startup where it runs some scripts and then step 9. The Bash Shell is Started
[07:08] <rhainur> it says
[07:08] <kazuka> pppoe_dude: it crashed now im reconfiguring back to vesa
[07:08] <starz> kakashi, um put sources list in pastebin
[07:09] <rhainur> : /mnt/war3: directory
[07:09] <starz> or wait i'll give you mine... your in usa?
[07:09] <Roberto55> is the best way for ssh to install bsd os?
[07:09] <kakashi> starz Reading package lists... Done
[07:09] <Marcos-PR> I not I obtain to copy archives that I lowered for liveCD UBUNTU in pendrive
[07:09] <kakashi> Building dependency tree
[07:09] <kakashi> Reading state information... Done
[07:09] <kakashi> E: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper
[07:09] <ott0> but if the scripts are written in shell script that wouldn't that be inaccurate?
[07:09] <steven07> po0f???
[07:09] <Marcos-PR> help
[07:09] <po0f> rhainur: Possibly, I used `dd` to create mine.
[07:09] <starz> !paste
[07:09] <po0f> rhainur: (I think)
[07:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:09] <steven07> #
[07:09] <rhainur> well
[07:09] <po0f> !universe | steven07
[07:09] <rhainur> what I have
[07:09] <ubotu> steven07: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:09] <illriginal> pppoe_dude, i get this error: tamacracker@tamacracker:~$ sudo chmod a+r+w -R /home
[07:09] <illriginal> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0666, should be 0440
[07:10] <steven07> so i just type !universe?
[07:10] <steven07> in the konsole?
[07:10] <rhainur> is actually this "cracked" ISO. it's basically only about 1 mb in size, and contains just the files that warcraft checks for.
[07:10] <rhainur> so this means that I don't have to insert the warcraft CD every time I wanna play
[07:10] <po0f> steven07: Read the links in ubotu's reponse.
[07:10] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, did you change anything wrt permission on /etc/sudoers?
[07:10] <steven07> it says !universe: event not found
[07:10] <rhainur> since I have a valid key, it allows me to play online and everything
[07:10] <illriginal> <,< i only typed what you told me to type.
[07:10] <Marcos-PR> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3553/plain/
[07:10] <Marcos-PR> HELP
[07:11] <starz> kakashi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3554
[07:11] <po0f> rhainur: I never had luck getting Wine and War3 working.
[07:11] <starz> Marcos-PR, looking
[07:11] <Marcos-PR> ok
[07:11] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, the sudo command might be acting up
[07:11] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, try sudo -s
[07:11] <illriginal> ok
[07:11] <steven07> po0f??
[07:12] <illriginal> sudo -s
[07:12] <illriginal> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0666, should be 0440
[07:12] <steven07> po0f: sorry i can see you're busy..
[07:12] <starz> Marcos-PR, ah i see the problem: hda1 is not the usb drive// thats the hard drive or so or cdrom depending on how you got it setup
[07:12] <po0f> steven07: Pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list please.
[07:12] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, you must have done something to the sudoers file
[07:12] <illriginal> pppoe_dude i see what happened!!
[07:12] <starz> do df -h and put that in pastebin Marcos-PR
[07:12] <kakashi> starz http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3555/
[07:12] <illriginal> pppoe_dude, i get this error: tamacracker@tamacracker:~$ sudo chmod a+r+w -R /  <- i didn't type home
[07:12] <Marcos-PR> ok
[07:13] <rhainur> hm
[07:13] <starz> Marcos-PR, your looking for /dev/sda1 probably
[07:13] <starz> but we shall see
[07:13] <Marcos-PR> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3556/plain/
[07:13] <starz> kakashi, yeah i see that are you in usa?
[07:13] <starz> Marcos-PR, looking
[07:14] <kakashi> yes
[07:14] <kakashi> starz yes
[07:14] <starz> Marcos-PR, cp K8N_Win2KXP_503.zip /media/usbdisk
[07:14] <starz> that will do it for u
[07:15] <starz> kakashi, ok just do: gksudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:15] <po0f> gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:15] <starz> when that opens ctrl+a and delete em all.. unless you have something special
[07:15] <starz> po0f, er gksu? no gksudo?
[07:15] <starz> sigh
[07:15] <ott0> when init reads shellscript, does it invoke a bash process to do so?
[07:15] <Marcos-PR> starz, ;) tks ,
[07:15] <Marcos-PR> I compel for the aid consigui to decide my problem
[07:15] <starz> i dont even do all that personally... i get the same errors no matter what.
[07:16] <starz> Marcos-PR, sorry what? did it work now?
[07:16] <po0f> starz: You forgot the command.
[07:16] <illriginal> pppoe_dude im gonna restart, brb
[07:16] <Marcos-PR> starz,
[07:16] <Marcos-PR> Thanks a lot it gave certain
[07:16] <starz> lets try it your way po0f from term and see what happens lol
[07:16] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, k
[07:17] <steven07> po0f what am i supposed to do?? could you make it fool proof as im VERY much a noob=P
[07:17] <starz> Marcos-PR, no problem!
[07:17] <kakashi> starz looks like its empty
[07:17] <marshall> how do you install winamp 2 .wsz themes in xmms?
[07:17] <starz> (gedit:30286): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: /// Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[07:17] <starz> same thing po0f lol
[07:17] <starz> kakashi, mine isnt empty: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3554/
[07:18] <mikejanssen> anyway to get grub to load windows automatically after the 10 seconds instead of ubuntu?
[07:18] <x__> I have a simple question.  I want to use KDevelop to create a simple, EMPTY, terminal application.
[07:18] <marshall> how do you install winamp 2 .wsz themes in xmms?
[07:18] <x__> how do I do it?
[07:18] <starz> marshall, i think instead you use xmms themes that are like winamp? good one.. never tried it... but their website should show you #xmms here on freenode or xmms.org for webby
[07:18] <starz> mikejanssen, just change where windows is in /boot/grub/menu.1st
[07:19] <marshall> thanks for your help starz
[07:19] <starz> put it above the linux kernels and your good :>            gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.1st
[07:19] <kazuka> im back
[07:19] <illriginal> pppoe_dude >< i an error at log on
[07:19] <steven07> po0f?
[07:19] <starz> marshall, no problem... let me know if you get it to work lol
[07:19] <kazuka> pppoe_dude: i can move mouse when ubuntu crashes
[07:19] <po0f> steven07: grep universe /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -v "^#"
[07:19] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, what kind of error?
[07:19] <illriginal> dammit is there anyway I can revert the last command?
[07:20] <po0f> steven07: Is anything output?
[07:20] <illriginal> something about $HOME
[07:20] <po0f> steven07: Run that from Konsole...
[07:20] <illriginal> and ownership
[07:20] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, i think your sudoers file is messed
[07:20] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, ya you can revert
[07:20] <steven07> alright ill type that code in the konsole
[07:20] <illriginal> how may i?
[07:20] <kakashi> starz lol yarr am I supposed to read all thos links?
[07:20] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, is it a gnome-error or command line?
[07:20] <starz> kakashi,
[07:20] <illriginal> what the error?
[07:20] <starz> no thats my sources.list
[07:20] <illriginal> it wasn't so much of an error, it was a "warning
[07:20] <starz> put that in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:20] <kakashi> ohh
[07:20] <starz> XD
[07:21] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, k you gotta issue a chmod 700 ~
[07:21] <illriginal> after i typed my login name and password, it told me somethin about ownership
[07:21] <illriginal> ok
[07:21] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, gnome doesn't like it when you mess with home folder permissions
[07:21] <starz> im gonna have to go afk in a bit b/c my roomate is gonna @#$@#$ his gf... men
[07:21] <starz> meh lol
[07:21] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, i still don't understand your motive
[07:21] <starz> lets get you going asap kakashi
[07:21] <illriginal> ok i typed: chmod 700 ~
[07:21] <kakashi> starz XD then save right?
[07:21] <pppoe_dude> kazuka, still crashes with vesa?
[07:22] <starz> kakashi, yeah
[07:22] <starz> sudo apt-get update
[07:22] <kazuka> pppoe_dude: i have not tried vesa yet
[07:22] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, should not get that error now
[07:22] <starz> what my list does is use original list from ubuntu and enable all repos
[07:22] <illriginal> i do pppoe_dude
[07:22] <kazuka> ill try vesa tomorrow
[07:22] <starz> i dont use backports 99.999 percent of the time
[07:22] <starz> so i didnt enable those ftw
[07:22] <steven07> po0f: it says grep: /etc/apt/sources.list no such file or directory
[07:22] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, same error?
[07:22] <illriginal> sudo
[07:22] <illriginal> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0666, should be 0440
[07:22] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, oh that error is different
[07:22] <illriginal> oh
[07:22] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, i meant the gnome warning
[07:22] <kakashi> starz no dice it says file not found
[07:22] <po0f> steven07: What?
[07:22] <starz> illriginal, wth
[07:22] <starz> kakashi,
[07:22] <illriginal> should i restart X? and relog back in?
[07:22] <steven07> po0f: it says grep: /etc/apt/sources.list no such file or directory
[07:22] <kakashi> when I tried to save
[07:22] <starz> something is not right
[07:23] <starz> did you update?
[07:23] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, no need
[07:23] <kakashi> lol
[07:23] <starz> sigh.
[07:23] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, you need to fix your sudoers file
[07:23] <starz> ok follow me in this kakashi lets do it another way
[07:23] <starz> close that up
[07:23] <kakashi> kk
[07:23] <starz> open gedit normally as a user
[07:23] <po0f> steven07: That's weird.
[07:23] <illriginal> starz i did something stupid, forgot to add home at the end of the chmod
[07:23] <kakashi> kk
[07:23] <illriginal> pppoe_dude heh... i don't really know how to do such a thing.
[07:23] <starz> paste those sources into it and save as sources.list
[07:24] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, do chmod 666 /etc/sudoers
[07:24] <steven07> could i have mistyped a letter or put extra spaces or forgotten some character
[07:24] <starz> it should save to home folder by default
[07:24] <steven07> ?
[07:24] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, what do you get?
[07:24] <starz> steven07, eh?
[07:24] <SoulinEther> hey I have a question about apt-get, can anybody help me?
[07:24] <kakashi> kk
[07:24] <po0f> SoulinEther: aptitude is better.  :)
[07:24] <illriginal> chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/sudoers': Operation not permitted
[07:24] <illriginal> lol
[07:24] <starz> pppoe_dude, is the content of the file bad or the permissions of it
[07:24] <pppoe_dude> just permissions
[07:24] <SoulinEther> po0F er, actually yes I used aptitude lol
[07:24] <starz> -r--r----- 1 root root 403 2007-01-29 17:22 /etc/sudoers
[07:25] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, try (will close everything) init 1, then chmod 666 /etc/sudoers then init 2
[07:25] <Ralith> illriginal, run this command
[07:25] <kakashi> starz ok I did that
[07:25] <SoulinEther> Problem: a configure screen came up for postfix while I was installing xubuntu-desktop ... and I didn't want to set it up
[07:25] <Ralith> illriginal, su -c "chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers"
[07:25] <starz> kakashi, open terminal which puts you in home by default and do: ls sour*
[07:25] <starz> should show that sources.list file right?
[07:25] <SoulinEther> i tabbed to cancel, and .... will it finish installing ever or is it like halted or something?
[07:25] <kakashi> lsnope
[07:25] <steven07> could i have mistyped a letter or put extra spaces or forgotten some character
[07:25] <pppoe_dude> oh sorry
[07:25] <kakashi> e no file or directory
[07:25] <ctiu> can somebody tell me how can i connect the ubunto to the windows?
[07:26] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, should be 0440 instead of 666
[07:26] <starz> steven07, what were you trying to do at the time ?
[07:26] <illriginal> su -c "chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers"
[07:26] <illriginal> Password:
[07:26] <illriginal> su: Authentication failure
[07:26] <illriginal> Sorry.
[07:26] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, init 1, then chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers, then init 2
[07:26] <starz> ctiu, what do yuo need to do> how do you need to connect it or to what? to a folder ?
[07:26] <kakashi> starz wait got it
[07:26] <illriginal> ok
[07:26] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, that will close gnome too
[07:26] <starz> illriginal, pppoe_dude consider this:
[07:26] <kakashi> starz and I see sources.list
[07:26] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, it will put you in a single user mode
[07:26] <starz> ctrl+alt+f2
[07:26] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, as root
[07:27] <starz> login as root and give pw
[07:27] <ctiu> starz, i want to get some files from window OS to the Ubunto
[07:27] <illriginal> wait wait
[07:27] <starz> but that only works if root pw was set at some point
[07:27] <illriginal> i dont want to get confused
[07:27] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, do you have root enabled?
[07:27] <kakashi> me cntrl ?
[07:27] <illriginal> yes
[07:27] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, oh... lol
[07:27] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, then, try su -
[07:27] <illriginal> ok
[07:27] <starz> kakashi, no
[07:27] <kakashi> lol
[07:27] <kakashi> kk
[07:27] <starz> for you did you see that file?
[07:27] <steven07> po0f???
[07:27] <kakashi> yes
[07:27] <starz> good
[07:27] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, put your root pass
[07:27] <starz> sudo mv ~/source.list /etc/apt
[07:28] <illriginal> su -
[07:28] <illriginal> Password:
[07:28] <illriginal> su: Authentication failure
[07:28] <illriginal> Sorry.
[07:28] <starz> lol
[07:28] <illriginal> why the hell wont it accept my password?!
[07:28] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, did it accept it before?
[07:28] <starz> illriginal, did you set a root password seperate to your user password ?
[07:28] <illriginal> look
[07:28] <illriginal> when i typed sudo
[07:28] <po0f> steven07: I'll have to play the ignorance card; I don't use Kubuntu and really can't tell if it's a Kubuntu or apt issue you are having.
[07:28] <illriginal> before hand
[07:28] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, just listen: do init 1, chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers, init 2
[07:28] <illriginal> it would ask for password
[07:28] <illriginal> and i would enter it
[07:28] <illriginal> and that's that
[07:28] <illriginal> ok
[07:28] <illriginal> init 1
[07:28] <po0f> steven07: Try `ls /etc/apt`.
[07:28] <illriginal> then chmod 0440
[07:28] <illriginal> then init 2
[07:29] <pppoe_dude> chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers
[07:29] <illriginal> ok
[07:29] <y0hm> can any1 confirm/deny whether it is safe to install chatzilla from this URL: http://www.hacksrus.com/~ginda/chatzilla/
[07:29] <illriginal> need to write it down
[07:29] <kakashi> starz e ect/apt is not a dir
[07:29] <spasticteapot> Can anyone reccomend a good wireless configuration program for someone who has to connect to open APs a lot?
[07:29] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, or chmod 440 /etc/sudoers
[07:29] <kober> Hey, I just installed beryl and when I started X back up the window manager dialog is staying open (the metacity/gnome dialog that shows the icons of what is starting up)
[07:29] <kober> anyone know what could cause that?
[07:29] <starz> kakashi, my bad
[07:29] <starz> sudo mv ~/source.list /etc/apt
[07:29] <steven07> it says no such file or directory
[07:30] <starz> /etc/apt
[07:30] <starz> not etc/apt
[07:30] <y0hm> kober check the beryl or ubuntu_glx forums
[07:30] <SoulinEther> how would I restart tty1 ?
[07:30] <y0hm> tirc channels i mean
[07:30] <po0f> spasticteapot: I use network-manager-gnome to connect to my, and previously, my neighbors' AP.  :)
[07:30] <illriginal> ok brb
[07:30] <spasticteapot> I'm using XFCE.
[07:30] <y0hm> Soulin try #reset
[07:30] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, wait
[07:30] <spasticteapot> Waay faster.
[07:30] <steven07> ohhhh i was putting ect apt
[07:30] <starz> oh yeah
[07:30] <illriginal> ok
[07:30] <steven07> i put etc apt
[07:30] <starz> for getting files from windows to linux
[07:30] <starz> use winscp from windows
[07:31] <steven07> and now it says apt.conf.d sources.list trustdb.gpg trusted.pgp
[07:31] <SoulinEther> anybody know how to restart one of your 6 terminal thingies on Server? :S
[07:31] <starz> you can move anything.. just put in the address of the ubuntu box for destination and your user etc works pretty darn good
[07:31] <qbubble> I'm currently only using one of my 2 cores, i tried to install a smp kernel ( sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp ), but it doesn't work :(. Any suggestions?
[07:31] <starz> kakashi, that worked right?
[07:31] <po0f> steven07: Now run that command I have you before, cut and paste it, don't try to type it out.
[07:31] <starz> no errors this time correct?
[07:31] <kakashi> starz
[07:31] <kazuka> lol vesa sucks
[07:31] <kakashi> yes
[07:31] <starz> mikejanssen, replyed kinda
[07:31] <Da1> Hello
[07:31] <y0hm> soulin #reset didn't work ?
[07:31] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, 1 minute
[07:31] <starz> kakashi, awesome now do sudo apt-get update
[07:32] <steven07> i cant really cut/paste i have linux on my other laptop:S
[07:32] <illriginal> np
[07:32] <SoulinEther> Nevermind, I found it
[07:32] <starz> then you can install ndiswrapper finally!
[07:32] <kazuka> pppoe_dude: im in vesa mode right now
[07:32] <mikejanssen> heh
[07:32] <mikejanssen> i think i got it
[07:32] <y0hm> what is it Soulin ?
[07:32] <mikejanssen> searched ubuntu help
[07:32] <kakashi> starz kk connecting
[07:32] <kazuka> pppoe_dude: ubuntu crashes now everytime i am browsing the web
[07:32] <starz> heh sorry about that mike got caught up :/
[07:32] <mikejanssen> lemme test it out
[07:32] <mikejanssen> brb
[07:32] <STARTGAME412> I think the command to set up pppoe is sudo pppoe conf
[07:32] <kakashi> starz done
[07:32] <po0f> qbubble: sudo aptitude install linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic
[07:33] <steven07> po0f...nothing happened it just went to another line
[07:33] <illriginal> no one EVER use sudo chmod a+r+w -R /
[07:33] <illriginal> -.-
[07:33] <Da1> Anyone here familiar with gDesklets?  I had it working for a short time, but now it just hangs when I run the gDesklet shell
[07:33] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, ok
[07:33] <illriginal> ?
[07:33] <starz> LOL illriginal
[07:33] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, chmod 440 /etc/sudoers should do it
[07:33] <qbubble> po0f: tnx :D
[07:33] <illriginal> ok
[07:33] <starz> also dont do rm -rf /
[07:33] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, should let you access sudo
[07:33] <po0f> steven07: Ok, `kdesu kedit /etc/apt/sources.list`.
[07:33] <kakashi> starz ok it worked
[07:33] <starz> kakashi, awesome
[07:33] <pppoe_dude> starz, plz don't post that here
[07:33] <starz> install ndiswrapper*
[07:33] <zcat[1] > don't do "yes > /dev/hda" either ...
[07:33] <po0f> starz: I did that one time, it was fun.  :)
[07:34] <illriginal> init 1 , chmod 440 /etc/sudoers , init 2
[07:34] <starz> er pppoe_dude sorry.. i e DO NOT EVER EVER DO THAT
[07:34] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, exactly, that will get you back to gnome after init
[07:34] <pppoe_dude> *init 2, illriginal
[07:34] <starz> po0f, i do that after formatting my servers 3 times before i give them back on end of contract
[07:34] <kakashi> starz get-apt install ndiswrapper?
[07:34] <illriginal> ok brb
[07:34] <steven07> po0f alright...it gave me this HUGE list of things and then it said something about the command not working
[07:34] <po0f> zcat[1] : `cat /dev/input/mice > /dev/hda`, interactively destroy your data!
[07:34] <starz> kakashi, sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper*
[07:34] <starz> with the *
[07:34] <y0hm> could someone pls stop me as I am a raving madman :)
[07:34] <SoulinEther> po0f : lol!
[07:34] <pppoe_dude> starz, some people will get curious and try it
[07:34] <starz> darn po0f thats a good one too
[07:35] <kakashi> starz ~dies E couldn't find package
[07:35] <starz> then let me explain to ppl: that means DELETE EVERYTHING THIS IS NOT A JOKE DO NOT DO THAT FOR A3W42093U40293U4 SAKE
[07:35] <illriginal> ok so... im not even root lol
[07:35] <illriginal> i typed init 1
[07:35] <starz> kakakoka_,
[07:35] <SoulinEther> Guys i don't want to find out but does that formatting function .... give you a question
[07:35] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, oh lol
[07:35] <starz> er kakashi
[07:35] <illriginal> and it says i need to be root :\
[07:35] <Dan1> Hello
[07:35] <starz> i dont know what your doing
[07:35] <starz> but your doing something very very wrong
[07:35] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, you're stuck in a twilight zone
[07:35] <illriginal> LMAO
[07:35] <starz> open synaptic and push the refresh button
[07:35] <illriginal> im in the paradox
[07:35] <starz> it will refresh from repos
[07:35] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, there is a way
[07:36] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, but im thinking of the easiest
[07:36] <Ralith> boot into single user mode :P
[07:36] <kakashi> starz I pormise i did not break the store front window
[07:36] <starz> then go to ndisgtk and install that
[07:36] <illriginal> just to let you know... i fear the dark black screen with white letters >.>
[07:36] <kazuka> brb
[07:36] <starz> that will be easiest bet to get the thing installed
[07:36] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, ya you can pass some kernel params to boot as single user
[07:36] <steven07> po0f alright...it gave me this HUGE list of things and then it said something about the command not working
[07:36] <Ralith> reboot, hit esc to bring up the grub menu when prompted, select the recovery mode
[07:36] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, or if you feel more comfortable
[07:36] <jcol07> lol .... the patience is commendable
[07:36] <Ralith> you don't even need to pass params, ubuntu has it autoconfig'd
[07:36] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, boot with LiveCD, do sudo mount /dev/hda /mnt
[07:37] <illriginal> <,<
[07:37] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, then do sudo chmod 440 /mnt/etc/sudoers
[07:37] <Ralith> pppoe_dude, jesus, just let him do it the easy way :P
[07:37] <starz> then: sudo ndiswrapper -da
[07:37] <starz> then: sudo ndiswrapper -di
[07:37] <steven07> po0f??
[07:37] <illriginal> what's the next best thing?
[07:37] <Ralith> illriginal,
[07:37] <Ralith> reboot, hit esc to bring up the grub menu when prompted, select the recovery mode
[07:37] <illriginal> right?
[07:37] <Ralith> then run chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers
[07:37] <Ralith> then run reboot
[07:37] <illriginal> without sudo, yes?
[07:38] <kazuka> oh well i cant run it im gonna install fedora
[07:38] <Ralith> yeah
[07:38] <po0f> steven07: Ok, open up a Konsole and type `sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list`.
[07:38] <Wobin> 'ullo folks
[07:38] <pppoe_dude> illriginal,
[07:38] <kazuka> pppoe_dude: thanks man
[07:38] <illriginal> ok so type chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers
[07:38] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, at boot screen, edit the kernel like and add "single"
[07:38] <illriginal> then type reboot
[07:38] <po0f> `sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak` even.
[07:38] <Ralith> illriginal, yeah
[07:38] <pppoe_dude> kazuka, np but i dont think i helped much sorry
[07:38] <foco> hi
[07:38] <starz> illriginal, when you boot from live cd in recovery mode you are root when you chmod in
[07:38] <Ralith> pppoe_dude, are you even listening? Ubuntu already has a single user mode entry
[07:38] <Ralith> starz, he doesn't need a livecd...
[07:38] <starz> er that other word chroot in
[07:38] <Ralith> grub works fine
[07:38] <pppoe_dude> oh nm
[07:38] <Ralith> and his kernel's happy too
[07:38] <starz> o:
[07:39] <starz> O YEAH
[07:39] <illriginal> ok gonna use grub
[07:39] <starz> lol
[07:39] <illriginal> lol brb :)
[07:39] <Ralith> somehow he messed up his permissions, that's all
[07:39] <illriginal> yeah by typing this: sudo chmod a+r+w -R /
[07:39] <starz> Ralith vs godzilla: Ralith 1 // godzilla 0
[07:39] <illriginal> ^ the devil
[07:39] <Ralith> illriginal, jesus christ
[07:39] <illriginal> brb
[07:39] <Ralith> you need to fix a lot more than sudoers
[07:39] <po0f> lol
[07:39] <steven07> po0f it didnt do anything...it just went to the next line again
[07:39] <starz> actually
[07:39] <Ralith> dunno how, there must be a script to restore permissions somewhere
[07:39] <Ralith> sudoers is a good start though
[07:40] <illriginal> wait
[07:40] <po0f> steven07: That's good, it backed it up.  Now, `nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list`.
[07:40] <illriginal> so what you just told me wont work then?
[07:40] <Ralith> no, it'll work
[07:40] <starz> illriginal, did you make seperate folder for your /home directory?
[07:40] <Ralith> but your system has serious security issues now :P
[07:40] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, single user mode is 'root'
[07:40] <Ralith> and will until you fix it
[07:40] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, the current problem is that you can't use sudo
[07:40] <Ralith> what I told you will fix sudo
[07:40] <Ralith> so you can use that to fix everything else
[07:40] <illriginal> yeah pppoe_dude
[07:40] <illriginal> i must resolve that
[07:40] <mikejanssen> heh
[07:40] <steven07> po0f its giving me this huge list of stuff again
[07:40] <mikejanssen> starz,
[07:40] <Ralith> so for now just do that
[07:40] <starz> mikejanssen,
[07:40] <illriginal> ok
[07:40] <mikejanssen> it was so much easier than you said to do
[07:40] <illriginal> brb
[07:40] <Dan1> How do I track down why an application hangs?
[07:40] <Ralith> then ask someone how to reset your permissions to system default
[07:40] <mikejanssen> all i had to do was change a 0 to a 4
[07:41] <po0f> steven07: Now, look for lines like this: #deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[07:41] <starz> mikejanssen, i forgot what you were trying to do~
[07:41] <starz> :/
[07:41] <mikejanssen> lol
[07:41] <co_15thn> lalu
[07:41] <po0f> steven07: And delete the '#' at the beginning: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[07:41] <starz> i get caught up at times... what was the deal again anyway>?
[07:41] <mikejanssen> my fiancee got mad at me today
[07:41] <mikejanssen> cuz ubuntu started up default
[07:41] <mikejanssen> when she rebooted
[07:41] <mikejanssen> = X
[07:41] <starz> oooo
[07:41] <kakashi> starz ok I did all that
[07:41] <mikejanssen> so i had to change it so windows will
[07:41] <starz> the boot to windows thing.
[07:41] <mikejanssen> ya
[07:41] <mikejanssen> changed 0 to 4
[07:41] <mikejanssen> heh
[07:42] <starz> let me look at the grub file
[07:42] <mikejanssen> i searched ubuntu help
[07:42] <mikejanssen> found answer
[07:42] <mikejanssen> there is a line that says 'default 0' had to change it to windows like (which was 4) for me. and it worked like a charm
[07:42] <steven07> alright...it didnt do anything
[07:42] <illusia> mikejanssen just in /boot/grub/menu.lst write windows sector first
[07:43] <starz> mm
[07:43] <starz> right on
[07:43] <mikejanssen> no no illusia
[07:43] <mikejanssen> too much work
[07:43] <po0f> steven07: Now, hit Ctrl-O, hit enter, then Ctrl-X.
[07:43] <mikejanssen> heh
[07:43] <illusia> lol
[07:43] <kakashi> starz kk I did all that stuffs
[07:43] <starz> but keep an eye on that as when you install newer kernels the list number might change mikejanssen
[07:43] <starz> kakashi,
[07:43] <starz> it installed this time right?>??????
[07:43] <mikejanssen> yea
[07:43] <starz> ???? *prays*
[07:43] <mikejanssen> thats what i read
[07:43] <TheSkorm>
[07:43] <kakashi> starz I think
[07:43] <kakashi> kakashi@kakashi-laptop:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -di
[07:43] <kakashi> Usage: ndiswrapper OPTION
[07:43] <kakashi> Manage ndis drivers for ndiswrapper.
[07:43] <kakashi> -i inffile        Install driver described by 'inffile'
[07:43] <kakashi> -d devid driver   Use installed 'driver' for 'devid'
[07:43] <kakashi> -e driver         Remove 'driver'
[07:43] <kakashi> -l                List installed drivers
[07:44] <kakashi> -m                Write configuration for modprobe
[07:44] <kakashi> -hotplug          (Re)Generate hotplug information
[07:44] <starz> kakashi, stop
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> !paste | kakashi
[07:44] <ubotu> kakashi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:44] <illusia> mikejanssen sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst ctrl+x ctrl+v is it too much work?
[07:44] <steven07> ok?
[07:44] <starz> !flood
[07:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:44] <steven07> still didnt do anything
[07:44] <mikejanssen> ya
[07:44] <mikejanssen> = )
[07:44] <steven07> it asked about saving something though
[07:44] <steven07> and i just pushed "y" for yes
[07:44] <starz> kakashi, first INSTALL driver
[07:44] <kakashi> kk
[07:44] <starz> then do the di and da bit
[07:44] <kakashi> k
[07:44] <starz> that takes installed driver and makes sure its used is all ^^
[07:44] <po0f> steven07: `sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install bcm43xx-fwcutter`
[07:44] <kakashi> whats the code again sorry :P
[07:45] <KDan> how do you tell an ubuntu server to go and grab its date from a network server?
[07:45] <kakashi> starz nvm I remmeber
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> KDan: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[07:45] <KDan> tonyyarusso: thanks
[07:45] <starz> lol kakashi
[07:45] <starz> if you installed ndisgtk then you can use that to do the install bit
[07:45] <seravitae> hey is there a way to extend gnome-panel onto multiple monitors?
[07:45] <rpc> oh btw where can i find a good list of ntp servers? EU preferably
[07:46] <starz> seravitae, if you find one post a howto in the forums
[07:46] <seravitae> ok
[07:46] <starz> one can, however create new panels and populate them with what you want on them.
[07:46] <starz> just right click on empty area of panel and select create new panel or the like and boom...
[07:46] <Onburiiku> Wow.
[07:46] <starz> and you can move them at will by dragging them
[07:46] <Onburiiku> I forget I'm even using Ubuntu
[07:46] <starz> Onburiiku, get that working yet?
[07:46] <starz> lol
[07:47] <Onburiiku> Whoa
[07:47] <Onburiiku> Kinda jumped out of nowhere there xD
[07:47] <po0f> Onburiiku: Did that guide work?
[07:47] <Onburiiku> Oh, for the mouse buttons?
[07:47] <steven07> po0f before when i pressed ctrl+o it said soemthing about error writing /etc/apt/sources.list:permission denied
[07:47] <starz> no for the icon
[07:47] <illriginal> ok
[07:47] <illriginal> this is the error i get
[07:47] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, ?
[07:47] <Onburiiku> No, I can live with it though. =P
[07:47] <po0f> steven07: Did you `sudo nano` or just `nano`?
[07:48] <starz> lol Onburiiku
[07:48] <kakashi> starz sweet its installed
[07:48] <starz> kakashi, now do the di and da bits
[07:48] <starz> then reboot
[07:48] <po0f> Onburiiku: I just followed that guide not 2 hours ago, any part you were having trouble with?
[07:48] <steven07> po0f now its stuck in this other screen about GNU nano 1.3.12
[07:48] <illriginal> User's $HOME / dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents default session and language from being saved
[07:48] <Onburiiku> It doesn't change the icon
[07:48] <po0f> steven07: Just Crtl-X.
[07:48] <starz> this is one of the VERY few things that its usefull to reboot for...
[07:48] <kris_> why can't i get any identd to work in 6.06?
[07:48] <huda_hudi> I am trying to edit and save motd file but it says I have to be root to change it. I cant login to ubuntu as root even though I have the password. I can only use the shell as root. what do I do?
[07:48] <kris_> i've been trying all night
[07:48] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, is that a gnome warning?
[07:49] <steven07> po0f destroy all changes?
[07:49] <po0f> steven07: `sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list`, make sure you use _sudo_.
[07:49] <Onburiiku> po0f: It doesn't actually change the icon. :/
[07:49] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, how fresh is your ubuntu installation?
[07:49] <illriginal> that's a warning with the "!" right after i put my password in before it loads up Nautilis
[07:49] <steven07> po0f destroy all changes?
[07:49] <kakashi> starz thanks for all the help man I really appreciate it
[07:49] <illriginal> brand spankin new.
[07:49] <illriginal> lol
[07:49] <po0f> steven07: Sure.  :)
[07:49] <starz> -rw------- 1 christian christian 26 2007-01-30 01:24 .dmrc
[07:49] <illriginal> this is gonna be my 4 time reinstalling.
[07:49] <po0f> Onburiiku: Change the icon for what?  I thought you were trying to get your VX Revolution working...
[07:50] <illriginal> in two days -.-
[07:50] <starz> illriginal, what got you into this predicament?
[07:50] <pppoe_dude> illriginal,
[07:50] <starz> and dont feel bad ive done way more installs than that XD
[07:50] <illriginal> wantin to access my files without limitations :(
[07:50] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, #1) you need to learn more about linux and it takes time
[07:50] <Onburiiku> Oh, that. SOrry, I've had so many different questions here it gets confusing
[07:50] <starz> illriginal, limitations are there for a reason and to circumvent them one must think what the implications of each action are.
[07:50] <po0f> Onburiiku: Lol, it's ok.
[07:50] <huda_hudi> I am trying to edit and save motd file but it says I have to be root to change it. I cant login to ubuntu as root even though I have the password. I can only use the shell as root. what do I do?
[07:50] <Onburiiku> No, I couldn't find the program it said to instal in synaptic
[07:50] <steven07> po0f alright.now i type the sudo aptitude code?
[07:50] <starz> and sometimes one must just learn by messing up.
[07:50] <illriginal> pppoe_dude i am tryin to learn it... before 2 days ago... i had a great KDE workin without problems
[07:51] <starz> i'm of that sort so your in good company
[07:51] <illriginal> till some idiots screwed me over with bad information.
[07:51] <pppoe_dude> #2) eventually you will find no need to change system-wide permissions
[07:51] <starz> may i recommend you backup your data asap illriginal ?
[07:51] <po0f> steven07: Did you uncomment the universe lines in sources.list?
[07:51] <kazuka> pppoe_dude: something is wrong with my video card
[07:51] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, the home folder issue is easily fixed
[07:51] <steven07> po0f what do you mean?
[07:51] <illriginal> by reinstalling? right?
[07:51] <illriginal> lol
[07:51] <TheSkorm> pppoe_dude - point to point protcol over ethernet dude aminoteright?
[07:51] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, just create a new user and migrate to it
[07:51] <steven07> taking off the # line?
[07:51] <starz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3554/ <<--- po0f my sources... i like multiverse also and its for usa
[07:52] <kazuka> pppoe_dude: in vesa it runs properly my video card i think is not x ccompatible
[07:52] <steven07> or taking off the # in that ONE line?
[07:52] <kazuka> so sad
[07:52] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, the system file issue (the whole '/' thing) is more tricky
[07:52] <illriginal> ok
[07:52] <po0f> steven07: Just delete the $ from that line.
[07:52] <pppoe_dude> kazuka, so no more crashing on vesa?
[07:52] <illriginal> ill make a new user
[07:52] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, but for now i suggest you make a new user
[07:52] <starz> illriginal, great idea
[07:52] <steven07> po0f i dont see any $
[07:52] <po0f> steven07: Err, # rather.
[07:52] <starz> then delete old user from system
[07:52] <starz> but before you make the new one
[07:52] <illriginal> i dont care bout this account lol ill make a new user and delete this one
[07:52] <starz> or before you delete the old one rather
[07:52] <illriginal> yes starz
[07:52] <starz> add the new one to /etc/sudoers
[07:53] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, make sure the new user is in sudoers list
[07:53] <starz> visudo -f /etc/sudoers
[07:53] <illriginal> ok
[07:53] <illriginal> lol how may i make a new user?
[07:53] <illriginal> is it under system tab?
[07:53] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, easiest way to do this is 'gksudo users-admin'
[07:53] <HymnToLife> illriginal, sudo useradd name
[07:53] <steven07> po0f: so i delete it and then press ctrl+o and then enter and then ctrl+x?
[07:53] <po0f> steven07: Yes.
[07:53] <huda_hudi> how can I give an existing user all the rights as a root from shell if I am logged in as root?
[07:53] <HymnToLife> add -m if you want to create a home folder for the user
[07:53] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, and add a user, then select the "system privileges" checkbox
[07:54] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, in the last tab
[07:54] <steven07> po0f alright the screen is blank now
[07:54] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, also, system>users and groups
[07:54] <Doc_Bio> anyone available to give me a little help with wireless?
[07:54] <starz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3559/ <<--- thats how i do my sudoers file
[07:54] <pppoe_dude> !ask > Doc_Bio
[07:54] <po0f> steven07: aptitude update && aptitude install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[07:54] <Flannel> huda_hudi: you want to add them to the admin group, that'll let them use sudo.
[07:54] <ctiu> can someone help me on activating samba?
[07:54] <starz> though adding the user to admin group is probably easier
[07:54] <steven07> po0f so wait..w.hat do i type??
[07:55] <po0f> steven07: aptitude update && aptitude install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[07:55] <starz> !samba
[07:55] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:55] <huda_hudi> flannel how do I do it?
[07:55] <starz> ctiu, are you trying to share to a windows system or from it?
[07:55] <po0f> steven07: `sudo aptitude update` rather.
[07:55] <Doc_Bio> so I'm having trouble getting wireless to work.....anyone expert at that?
[07:55] <ctiu> starz, yes but i dont know what to do
[07:55] <pppoe_dude> Doc_Bio, what kind of card do you have
[07:55] <starz> ctiu, which direction? or both?
[07:55] <pppoe_dude> Doc_Bio, what kind of problem
[07:56] <Doc_Bio> intel 2100
[07:56] <ctiu> starz, if possible, both?
[07:56] <Doc_Bio> it appears to be installed correctly....keyring and everything is there.
[07:56] <steven07> po0f it ran and now its at a new line
[07:56] <starz> as i recall one must have a samba user with the same name and password as the windows username and pass or so
[07:56] <illriginal> pppoe_dude ok i created new user illriginal set it up as administrator, and checked all for permissions
[07:56] <ctiu> starz, what would i need to do?
[07:56] <Doc_Bio> I just can't get it to connect at all.
[07:56] <po0f> steven07: sudo aptitude install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[07:56] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, try su - illriginal
[07:56] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, then try sudo -s
[07:56] <starz> let me google that for a second to see for sure again ok? there is a great howto on the forums ive used before which i'll find for you
[07:57] <ctiu> ok
[07:57] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, did that give you root?
[07:57] <illriginal> yes
[07:57] <illriginal> im on root righ tnow
[07:57] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, k then you're goot to go
[07:57] <pppoe_dude> *goo
[07:57] <pppoe_dude> d
[07:57] <denyeverything> hello, any one know where can I get 2.6.18 kernel from edgy?
[07:57] <Doc_Bio> how do you connect to your wireless connection?
[07:57] <kupesoft> If I have two or more network cards and a wireless card and I want to set up a router (with a cable modem WAN attached to one of the ethernet cards) - do I primarily use iptables or bridging?  Where can I find out my about ubuntu/debian routers?
[07:57] <starz> actually ctiu if you wanna try what is already in ubuntu go to system > administration > shared folders
[07:57] <illriginal> ok so now restart x
[07:57] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, the second problem will be trickier
[07:57] <illriginal> log onto illriginal
[07:57] <po0f> denyeverything: kernel.org
[07:57] <steven07> po0f it says couldnt find any package whose name or description matched bcm43xx-fwcutter
[07:57] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, ya
[07:57] <illriginal> and delete this account
[07:58] <denyeverything> po0f I need to rebuild it myself?
[07:58] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, dont have to even worry about it too much
[07:58] <HymnToLife> denyeverything, yes
[07:58] <ctiu> starz, then what would i do? check it if it was shared?
[07:58] <pppoe_dude> won't cause any problems if you don't use it
[07:58] <denyeverything> HymnToLife thanks.
[07:58] <po0f> denyeverything: Unless someone has built it and is willing to share it with you.
[07:58] <starz> ctiu, first it has you install smb [samba]  stuff
[07:58] <illriginal> ok
[07:58] <illriginal> what's the 2nd part?
[07:58] <kupesoft> If I have two or more network cards and a wireless card and I want to set up a router (with a cable modem WAN attached to one of the ethernet cards) - do I primarily use iptables or bridging?  Where can I find out my about ubuntu routers??
[07:58] <starz> you dont need the nfs unless your sharing with another linux system
[07:58] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, the system files permissions
[07:58] <illriginal> ok
[07:58] <illriginal> so right now
[07:58] <denyeverything> is there a work around for nviadia 430 somewhere?
[07:58] <ctiu> starz, i havent install the samba yet
[07:58] <illriginal> shall i go onto illriginal?
[07:59] <huda_hudi> from shel how do I go to /etc?
[07:59] <pppoe_dude> sure
[07:59] <illriginal> k brb
[07:59] <denyeverything> I can't get eth but i guess it is known.
[07:59] <ctiu> starz, how can i do it?
[07:59] <steven07> po0f it says couldnt find any package whose name or description matched bcm43xx-fwcutter
[07:59] <starz> ctiu, yes it will give you a popup asking if you wanna install the stuff when you go where i said there
[07:59] <SoulinEther> Question: how do i install a desktop onto my ubuntu server?
[07:59] <starz> ctiu go to system > administration > shared folders
[07:59] <starz> SoulinEther, please dont for the both of us
[07:59] <starz> XD
[07:59] <ctiu> ok
[07:59] <SoulinEther> starz: make me :P
[07:59] <starz> why do you _need_ gui in it
[07:59] <steven07> po0f it says couldnt find any package whose name or description matched bcm43xx-fwcutter
[07:59] <SoulinEther> because
[07:59] <po0f> steven07: I have to step outside for a bit.
[08:00] <SoulinEther> Lynx is confusing lol
[08:00] <Doc_Bio> so intell 2100 appears to be installed and configured properly....but I can't get the thing to connect to my wireless network...how I do that?
[08:00] <starz> .......
[08:00] <steven07> alright
[08:00] <starz> SoulinEther, what are you trying to do?
[08:00] <SoulinEther> starz I don't, really
[08:00] <ctiu> starz, ty the samba was installing now
[08:00] <starz> ctiu, np see if that does it
[08:00] <SoulinEther> starz well, I'm a highly visual person, anything more than black and white helps lol
[08:00] <starz> if not i'll find the howto in a bit.
[08:00] <ctiu> starz, ok ty again
[08:00] <starz> SoulinEther, see if you can figure how to get the pictures to work in links2 over ssh
[08:01] <starz> but meh
[08:01] <SoulinEther> starz: that sounds like too much work, lol.
[08:01] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, so logged in no problem
[08:01] <pppoe_dude> ?
[08:01] <illriginal> yep
[08:01] <illriginal> no sweat
[08:01] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, k, the system files issue is more of a security thing/long term issue
[08:01] <SoulinEther> starz: oh well, I'll just manage with lynx, it's better than nothing
[08:01] <pppoe_dude> as of yet i don't know how you would go about it
[08:01] <illriginal> pppoe_dude quick question for you, how can i grab the files from my other account?
[08:02] <starz> sudo apt-get install icewm icewm-themes icepref icemc iceme x-window-system-core synaptic xterm mousepad
[08:02] <starz> synaptic optional
[08:02] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, do a cp -R /home/<oldacct>/* ~/.
[08:02] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:02] <mikejanssen> that WAS rather easy
[08:02] <illriginal> ok
[08:02] <starz> then mess with putty or the like on how to forward X over ssh.... ebil...
[08:02] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, that will also copy hidden files and subfolders
[08:02] <A-L-P-H-A> Is there a way to remote to another linux box, via windows.  I know of VNC, any other alternatives?
[08:02] <mikejanssen> thx starz...
[08:02] <starz> SoulinEther, i really do like links2 better than lynx btw
[08:02] <starz> mikejanssen, eh?
[08:02] <TheSkorm> A-L-P-H-A there is ssh
[08:03] <starz> what was easy this time lol
[08:03] <mikejanssen> heh, wrote windows line above linux lines
[08:03] <Flannel> huda_hudi: usermod, with ag as flags
[08:03] <starz> oh
[08:03] <starz> yeah
[08:03] <mikejanssen> DOES seem more secure
[08:03] <mikejanssen> just incase anything else installs
[08:03] <starz> i think it stays there on install
[08:03] <Doc_Bio> so how do I enable wireless in ubuntu with Intel 2100 centrino wireless card
[08:03] <starz> but do this to test mikejanssen : sudo update-grub
[08:03] <A-L-P-H-A> TheSkorm, ssh would just allow me to tunnel to the VNC port... but i'm wondering other methods... I remember something called remoteX, if that is around... and cygwin allows for it.
[08:03] <starz> then peek at menu.1st after and tell me if its still there lol
[08:04] <A-L-P-H-A> TheSkorm, ssh or did you mean use ssh, like telnet?
[08:04] <illriginal> says no such directory...
[08:04] <y0hm> starz , could you perhaps point me towards a good X forwarding how-to ?
[08:04] <illriginal> there's just a folder in my other account... that has background pictures
[08:04] <TheSkorm> well, you can run ssh and x port forward using cgywin
[08:04] <starz> btw for nice terminals: add vga=792 to grub boot lines... personally i took out the quiet splash bit
[08:04] <kazuka> pppoe_dude: i think the problem is in my hardware
[08:04] <starz> y0hm, yeah i had one a bit ago
[08:04] <mikejanssen> yup
[08:04] <starz> one sec
[08:04] <mikejanssen> windows line is still where i put it
[08:05] <illriginal> a cp -R /home/<oldacct>/* ~/.   ?     or no "a"?
[08:05] <pppoe_dude> kazuka, what makes you think that?
[08:05] <steven07> po0f you there yet?
[08:05] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, no a
[08:05] <kazuka> pppoe_dude: fedora install just crashed on me
[08:05] <loos> Hi, has anyone heard about Ubuntu live cd display problems on a Macbook Pro?
[08:06] <loos> 6.10
[08:06] <pppoe_dude> kazuka, did vesa stop crashing?
[08:06] <illriginal> cp: cannot stat
[08:06] <pppoe_dude> stop *the crashing
[08:06] <kazuka> pppoe_dude: and in windows my computer loads slowly
[08:06] <po0f> steven07: Are you using Edgy?
[08:06] <kazuka> pppoe_dude: no in vesa mode it didn't crashed
[08:06] <starz> http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/XoverSSH/X-over-SSH2.html see if that will work y0hm
[08:06] <pppoe_dude> kazuka, then its a driver problem
[08:06] <steven07> po0f how do i know if i using edgy?
[08:06] <y0hm> thx starz :)
[08:06] <ardchoille42> steven07, lsb_release -a
[08:06] <starz> np
[08:06] <kazuka> pppoe_dude: i remember i have to use ubuntu dapper for this machine
[08:07] <kazuka> system even
[08:07] <starz> o boi my roomates are going to mate im gonna have to bbl
[08:07] <starz> ~_~
[08:07] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, cp -R /home/oldacct/ ~/
[08:07] <illriginal> ok
[08:07] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, try that ^
[08:07] <po0f> steven07: What ardchoille42 said.
[08:07] <kazuka> im gonna try suse
[08:07] <geoffthefish> does anybody know what has replace mimedb in edgy?  i used to run mimedb - l to launch files with default app
[08:07] <pppoe_dude> kazuka, if you don't use hardware acceleration, vesa might do you fine
[08:07] <po0f> geoffthefish: You could try `gnome-open`.
[08:08] <kazuka> pppoe_dude: yes
[08:08] <steven07> yes
[08:08] <steven07> codename: edgy
[08:08] <illriginal> woohoo
[08:08] <illriginal> thanks a lot pppoe_dude
[08:08] <illriginal> ok
[08:08] <illriginal> now...
[08:08] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, np
[08:08] <illriginal> to set permissions
[08:08] <illriginal> i remember i did 775 command before
[08:08] <kazuka> pppoe_dude: i will try to use suse first then if it still crashed im stuck with windows lol
[08:08] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, the permissions you added shouldn't pose too many problems
[08:08] <starz> illriginal, make sure you add that other user as admin/sudoer
[08:08] <illriginal> a few months ago.
[08:08] <geoffthefish> po0f, thanks a million, has been annoying me since upgrade!
[08:08] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, except for security issues...
[08:08] <starz> then move data
[08:08] <starz> then remove illriginal user
[08:09] <starz> then rm -R /home/illriginal
[08:09] <illriginal> starz i dont want the other user anyways now :P
[08:09] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, i would suggest you chmod a-w -R /etc
[08:09] <y0hm> Starz ,i'm gonna use X-forwarding only on my home LAN , is it a great security risk NOT to tunnel it over SSH  ? (for performance reasons)
[08:09] <starz> then recreate illriginal
[08:09] <starz> lol
[08:09] <starz> y0hm, um
[08:09] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, that would remove write permissions to the /etc folder and files
[08:09] <ardchoille42> Hmm.. ALT+F2, typing in: gnome-open http://www.google.com  worked. I wonder what else I can do with gnome-open
[08:09] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, write permissions to "all users"
[08:09] <starz> if its over a lan i wouldnt think it would be so bad...
[08:09] <illriginal> wait
[08:09] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, but the problem is more compicated
[08:09] <y0hm> thats what I thought :)
[08:10] <illriginal> this:  chmod a-w -R /etc  will take away permissions?
[08:10] <starz> but i dont honestly know.. as it might leave it mroe open to outside attack
[08:10] <marcusgrazette> hi, i'm having some issues with PHP4 GD2 & Apache. I've installed both of them, as well as libapache2-mod-php4 but when i try to use my web app, it generates an error saying that i need to compile my PHP with GD2...i also have PHP5 installed. any ideas?
[08:10] <illriginal> what problem?
[08:10] <steven07> po0f it is edgy
[08:10] <illriginal> is my security problem still there?
[08:10] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, when you did that command, you gave extra permissions to system files
[08:10] <po0f> steven07: Try this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285809
[08:10] <illriginal> the one i did before i made illriginal?
[08:10] <y0hm> ill netmask the cpu in question ... ok thx again ....
[08:10] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, the chmod a+w+r /
[08:10] <starz> y0hm, we are all but users in this great universe..
[08:11] <illriginal> right
[08:11] <illriginal> i didn't fix it?
[08:11] <hagabaka> do apt-get and aptitude use different databases to keep track of whether a package is automatically installed?
[08:11] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, no
[08:11] <illriginal> by adding a new user?
[08:11] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, you only fixed your home directory
[08:11] <y0hm> yommBuntu agrees
[08:11] <illriginal> even if i delete my old account?
[08:11] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, the system will probably work fine but there is a security issue
[08:11] <starz> tho if i had one wish it would be to have the buntu pplz and the ebian pplz work a little closer together.. as divergence bothers me a little..
[08:11] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, (as in all system files are writable by any user)
[08:11] <illriginal> hm...
[08:11] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, i suggest a clean install when you get a chance
[08:11] <starz> but meh its a great way to go and learn and have fun and i put all my new friends in it and usually run some of it myself XD
[08:11] <y0hm> is there rivalry between debian & ubuntu ?
[08:12] <steven07> po0f where is system?
[08:12] <illriginal> pppoe_dude, what if im the only person who uses this PC?
[08:12] <starz> y0hm, at first a lot
[08:12] <po0f> starz: Survival of the fittest; those Debain dudes seem mean, but I think we could take em.  :)
[08:12] <starz> not so much now... but it just depends on how you look at it
[08:12] <illriginal> i shouldn't worry, yes?
[08:12] <starz> debian is not meant to be quite as user friendly and the like
[08:12] <y0hm> cos i love ubuntu and I lov Debian as well :)
[08:12] <po0f> steven07: Huh?
[08:12] <illriginal> i live by myself lol
[08:12] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, then its not too bad, but you still have risks (low risk) if someone hacks in or theres a security hole in a program
[08:12] <Flannel> illriginal: You still have web browsers, etc.  Basically, you've reduced the securityof the system to that of Windows.
[08:12] <starz> and each has its own nitch.. but if you wanna get all hardcore just go to gentoo anyway
[08:12] <starz> XD
[08:12] <y0hm> ubuntu is just more .. edgy then debian for some purposes :)
[08:12] <steven07> it says to go System>administration>synaptic package manager
[08:13] <starz> lol y0hm
[08:13] <illriginal> hm..
[08:13] <starz> i only use like 3 bleeding edge packages
[08:13] <illriginal> wish there was a way to take away permissions
[08:13] <starz> mplayer k3b gaim
[08:13] <po0f> steven07: Use `adept` IIRC.
[08:13] <illriginal> or reverting at least
[08:13] <starz> the rest can go fry for all i care XD
[08:13] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, is your /home on a separate partition?
[08:13] <y0hm> i tried doing the minimal gentoo compile/install for 8 times now .. hehe still no luck
[08:13] <Flannel> illriginal: no, not reverting.  You'd just set them some other way.
[08:13] <steven07> po0f what do you mean?
[08:13] <illriginal> no
[08:13] <starz> y0hm, similar here
[08:13] <po0f> steven07: Isn't adept the GUI frontend for apt on KDE?
[08:13] <starz> but i got real close the last time:
[08:14] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, how big is your harddisk?
[08:14] <starz> i did a binary install and recompiled from world
[08:14] <illriginal> Flannel that's the problem, we can't figure out how to set them back to normal.
[08:14] <illriginal> this one's only 20gb
[08:14] <starz> i think it was my cflag file that was the problem
[08:14] <illriginal> i have an 80gb that i need to mount.
[08:14] <Flannel> illriginal: you can't.  Without just going through and setting them (and knowing what they were originally)
[08:14] <po0f> starz: stage3-on-1 ftw.  ;P
[08:14] <loos> Is there a way from a text install to get another terminal?
[08:14] <starz> po0f, eh?
[08:14] <steven07> po0f im sorry i dont know what you mean by adept
[08:14] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, i suggest you backup your home directory and reinstall
[08:14] <y0hm> startz I consider myself certainnly NOT a guru but i know my way around linux a bit , ppfff but that gentoo thing :)
[08:14] <illriginal> lol pppoe_dude
[08:15] <Onburiiku> I have one last question for now
[08:15] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, also i suggest creating a separate partition for yout /home
[08:15] <starz> lol y0hm yeah
[08:15] <illriginal> all i have saved was background images
[08:15] <Onburiiku> How do I get my speakers to work with Ubuntu?
[08:15] <starz> my problem was hardware last time...
[08:15] <po0f> starz: Aren't you talking about Gentoo?
[08:15] <starz> lots of segfaults while compiling..
[08:15] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, in case this happens again, then you can just reinstall and keep your home directory
[08:15] <starz> po0f, yes
[08:15] <y0hm> still Gentoo keeps drawing my attention :)
[08:15] <starz> but whats a stage3-on-1 ?
[08:15] <illriginal> when i reinstall
[08:15] <starz> perse
[08:15] <illriginal> how do i make a partition just for my home?
[08:15] <starz> illriginal,
[08:15] <illriginal> do i set the size to lik e10gb?
[08:16] <starz> instead of going to do default install lets make you some stuff up now
[08:16] <illriginal> the partition size
[08:16] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, is there anything of value on harddisk?
[08:16] <starz> how much ram do you have illriginal
[08:16] <illriginal> no pppoe
[08:16] <illriginal> 1gb
[08:16] <starz> ok
[08:16] <illriginal> 1gb of ram
[08:16] <starz> for swap do 2 gig
[08:16] <illriginal> only takes 10 minutes to install
[08:16] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, then, make sure you are working with the right harddisk
[08:16] <starz> for root do 10 gig
[08:16] <starz> for home do rest
[08:16] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, make a "root" (/) partition that is 4GB or so
[08:16] <po0f> starz: Basically, start a stage 3, then `emerge glibc binutils gcc && emerge glibc binutils gcc && emerge -e system && emerge -e system`.  :)
[08:16] <illriginal> ok
[08:17] <illriginal> when i reinstall
[08:17] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, and the rest for /home
[08:17] <starz> pppoe_dude, i really recommend 6 gigs or better as if one starts doing larger things a lot of programs use /tmp by default to work in and tho one could say move that to /home/tmp it can be a pain
[08:17] <illriginal> 4gb will be for root?
[08:17] <illriginal> and the other 16gb will be for home?
[08:17] <starz> po0f, yes exactly
[08:17] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, how much RAM do you have?
[08:17] <starz> but i believe there is a bit of configuring in between XD
[08:17] <y0hm> any1 know if there is a dedicated MDADM irc-channel ?
[08:17] <starz> pppoe_dude, 1gig he said
[08:17] <illriginal> 1gb of ram
[08:17] <steven07> po0f?
[08:17] <starz> y0hm, no clue... check their webby?
[08:18] <y0hm> ...
[08:18] <y0hm> um
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, do 5GB /, 0.5GB swap and rest for home
[08:18] <starz> i dont even know what mdadm is XD
[08:18] <po0f> steven07: I don't know anything about Kubuntu, unless you want to do it all from the command line, I really can't help you.
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, thats what i usually do and i get no problems
[08:18] <y0hm> is getting lazy :)
[08:18] <illriginal> ok
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, if you want to be on safe side, giver 6GB for root
[08:18] <crackhead[1] > Can anyone help a newbie install 6.10? I booted it on one computer, which worked fine. I know the media is a good burn. I tried on another, and I got a "cannot boot from cd" error. Though, when using that cd for other operations, it seems to work all right. It could boot up Suse most of the way. It can read from CDs in Windows fine. Help? Any special parameters to try? Ideas?
[08:18] <steven07> po0f do you know where i could go?
[08:18] <illriginal> so off the top of your head what partition will the home go into?
[08:18] <steven07> po0f should i try the #kubuntu channel?
[08:18] <illriginal> not hda1
[08:18] <starz> crackhead[1] , get the alternate install cd
[08:18] <huda_hudi> whats thelatest version fiesty?
[08:18] <geoffthefish> anyone else get annoying message about 'session saved' on logout after installing skype?
[08:18] <starz> then install in text mode crackhead[1]
[08:18] <starz> :>
[08:19] <nofxx> man. .. this is really not right..... edubuntu 64 , ubuntu 64... both stops the installation after "Booting the kernel"
[08:19] <nofxx> it stops but not freezes... I can write to the screen.... but not change between consoles....
[08:19] <Madpilot> huda_hudi, latest stable is Edgy, Feisty is still in early testing
[08:19] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, depends on the order you make them in
[08:19] <starz> geoffthefish, thats something to do with gnome not skype
[08:19] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, first one is /hda1
[08:19] <crackhead[1] > What about the alternate install CD?
[08:19] <illriginal> yeah i know
[08:19] <pppoe_dude> second is /dev/hda2
[08:19] <illriginal> alright
[08:19] <pppoe_dude> etc
[08:19] <starz> geoffthefish, system > preferences > session
[08:19] <steven07> po0f should i try the #kubuntu channel?
[08:19] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, filesystem type is ext3 for all except swap
[08:19] <illriginal> so make 2 ext3
[08:19] <crackhead[1] > I don't know which parameters or commands to use in text status. Where can I find the instructions?
[08:19] <illriginal> and one swap
[08:19] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, ya
[08:19] <po0f> steven07: You could probably get better help there.
[08:19] <starz> pppoe_dude, should we have him leave say 8 gigs for a dual boot windows install?
[08:20] <illriginal> ok
[08:20] <illriginal> ill reinstall
[08:20] <illriginal> brb :P
[08:20] <starz> XD
[08:20] <pppoe_dude> lol
[08:20] <illriginal> lol
[08:20] <steven07> po0f thank you so much for the help=)
[08:20] <geoffthefish> starz,  are you sure?  it only happens when skype is running, i messed with those prefs already
[08:20] <illriginal> only takes 10 minutes
[08:20] <illriginal> 15 most
[08:20] <pppoe_dude> ill be in bed by thgen :)
[08:20] <starz> geoffthefish, nope not sure i dont use skype
[08:20] <huda_hudi> kool I just installed ubuntu for the first time today. Still getting used it. very simple. I also installed beryl very very cool stuff btu needed a lot of patience to figure it out.
[08:20] <illriginal> aha
[08:20] <illriginal> alright man
[08:20] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, good luck
[08:20] <starz> but in my experience thats it
[08:20] <illriginal> thanks for the info :P
[08:20] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, no need to change default permissions
[08:20] <starz> try running skype and closing it and then rerunning
[08:20] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, only thing i sugest is chmod 700 ~
[08:20] <starz> see if it does that when quitting skype
[08:20] <mikejanssen> i made a beryl desktop environment
[08:20] <mikejanssen> = X
[08:20] <starz> crackhead[1] , ubuntu.com
[08:21] <mikejanssen> my most rarely used
[08:21] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, that will make your home directory more secure
[08:21] <illriginal> chmod 700 ~ ok
[08:21] <starz> go to get ubuntu
[08:21] <starz> click on download
[08:21] <illriginal> brb
[08:21] <pppoe_dude> illriginal, but if youre the only one using you dont even need that
[08:21] <pppoe_dude> lol
[08:21] <starz> and look for the alternate cd instead of regular and go there and select correct one for your architecture
[08:21] <crackhead[1] > I know how to dl and burn the alternate. Are there instructions to use the text install mode of the alternate, though?
[08:21] <old-monk> !beryl
[08:21] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:21] <crackhead[1] > I use i386, of course.
[08:21] <pppoe_dude> kazuka, u there?
[08:22] <pppoe_dude> kazuka, try disabling some modules from /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:22] <pppoe_dude> and put it back to the old driver see if it works
[08:22] <starz> crackhead[1] , there you go
[08:22] <pppoe_dude> look for things like dri, glx, etc
[08:22] <starz> what country are you in?
[08:22] <crackhead[1] > What parameters must I use in text install mode, though, in order to make sure the CD can read?
[08:22] <starz> crackhead[1] , its a thing
[08:22] <Zilliot> ubuntu+gnome+mobile phone nokia 6260(symbian)+cable dku-2+gprs....i need information for go to the internet from my ubuntu desctop!
[08:22] <starz> a wierd error.... just using the alternate cd seems to fix that
[08:22] <geoffthefish> starz, when you close skype it is still running in bground
[08:22] <crackhead[1] > Why might I be getting such an error even though I know the CD drive can function and the media is a good burn?
[08:22] <starz> geoffthefish, right click on icon and exit it
[08:23] <huda_hudi> beryl really slows down my system. I did a bench before and after installing beryl. and saw a huge differance. It could also be that my video card is only a mere ATI 200m series. Its a laptop...
[08:23] <n2diy> My screen saver changed, and I didn't do it! Is this part of a recent seculity update for Dapper?
[08:23] <kupesoft> Where can I find out more about setting up an ubuntu box with a few ethernet cards and a wireless card in to a gateway/router (like the famous Linksys ones)...?
[08:23] <starz> n2diy, are you sure your not on random screensaver?
[08:23] <miyako> hello
[08:24] <geoffthefish> starz, hmm no icon at moment, is there another place to stop it?
[08:24] <Zilliot> ubuntu+gnome+mobile phone nokia 6260(symbian)+cable dku-2+gprs....i need information for go to the internet from my ubuntu desctop!
[08:24] <miyako> anyone want to take a look at an ubuntu wallpaper I made?
[08:24] <y0hm> hudi i think ATI + Beryl uses indirect rendering which is a bit slower , though you should be able to get decent performance on that card
[08:24] <y0hm> try diabling the beryl "blur" settings and tweaking your xorg.conf
[08:24] <y0hm> *disabling
[08:25] <bob_fl> greetings ubuntu memtest hangs on test#2 Help
[08:25] <y0hm> bob basically youre scr*w*d !
[08:25] <y0hm> sounds like broken RAM
[08:25] <bob_fl> any idea the root cause, bad mem?
[08:25] <bob_fl> ok, this is a "new" recycled box
[08:26] <y0hm> bob try carefully reseating your RAM ( if you are experienced ) and then run MEMTEST again 1 module at a time
[08:26] <bob_fl> great-- thanks!!
[08:26] <Zilliot>  ........
[08:26] <sciboy> Anyone familiar with the badram patch?
[08:26] <y0hm> you should be able to pick out the bad module
[08:27] <sciboy> y0hm, Of course but why remove it when i can still use it?
[08:27] <Zilliot>        !!!
[08:27] <ardchoille42> Zilliot, Please stop
[08:28] <huda_hudi> Y0hm blur was disabled in default. I am just happy that it worked the first time I tried. i know many many people. even some who have used linux for a long time and couldnt figure it out
[08:28] <Madpilot> !ru
[08:28] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:28] <Zilliot> ubuntu+gnome+mobile phone nokia 6260(symbian)+cable dku-2+gprs....i need information for go to the internet from my ubuntu desctop!
[08:28] <y0hm> sciboy i was talking to bob :)
[08:28] <sciboy> Oh.
[08:28] <sciboy> Nice timing. =P
[08:28] <y0hm> :)
[08:28] <shinobi2> does ubuntu have the header files and lib for sshfs?
[08:29] <ctiu> somebody teach me on how to run the .sh file?
[08:29] <shinobi2> i am trying to write a C or C++ program with sshfs
[08:29] <shinobi2> ctiu: chmod 700 file.sh; ./file.sh
[08:29] <ctiu> ty
[08:29] <shinobi2> vim file.sh then type echo hello world and save it
[08:30] <high-bass> guys i need to install GLUT opengl and i want to run it through the terminal however... i am having major problems when installing through synaptic... adn getting dependency errors with edgy... anyone experiencing same thing?
[08:30] <ctiu> shinobi2, ill do in on the terminal?
[08:30] <ardchoille42> ctiu, Is this your first bash script?
[08:30] <ctiu> ardchoille42, yup
[08:30] <ardchoille42> ctiu, The first line of a bash script should always be: #!/bin/bash
[08:30] <Wobin> Alas. I tried using that install.exe for Ubuntu, but it seems that it can't read my ntfs drive, and subsequently falls over on reboot as it looks for the images...
[08:30] <shinobi2> ctiu: yes
[08:31] <ctiu> ahhhhh
[08:31] <y0hm> huda are you using the latest beryl version ?
[08:31] <shinobi2> ctiu: use pico, vim, or gedit or whatever you like and type "echo hello world" then save and do that chmod stuff
[08:31] <y0hm> and what ATI driver ?
[08:31] <huda_hudi> Yes Y0hm
[08:32] <huda_hudi> let me check
[08:32] <SoulinEther> quick question
[08:32] <SoulinEther> where's the hosts file?
[08:32] <ardchoille42> SoulinEther, /etc/hosts  ?
[08:32] <SoulinEther> yes, thanks
[08:32] <ardchoille42> yw
[08:33] <y0hm> huda check out > there is a dedicated #beryl  & #ubuntu-xlg channel on freenode , perhaps people can help you better there !
[08:33] <y0hm> * ubuntu-xgl*
[08:33] <huda_hudi> tnx
[08:33] <y0hm> tnp
[08:33] <Xif> Is there a shortcut to uninstall all the games that are installed by default on Dapper?
[08:33] <y0hm> lol xif
[08:34] <Xif> y0hm: I'm serious :)
[08:34] <y0hm> i know :)
[08:34] <y0hm> I don't think so ...
[08:34] <ardchoille42> Xif, I doubt that
[08:34] <y0hm> but correct me if i'm wrong :)
[08:34] <huda_hudi> isnt synaptic the best way to uninstall packages?
[08:34] <po0f> Xif: Maybe `sudo aptitude purge gnome-games*` would work.
[08:34] <Xif> po0f: thanks
[08:35] <ardchoille42> po0f, That would likely take some of gnome out with it
[08:35] <po0f> Xif: Add -s to the end of it for a dry run.
[08:35] <po0f> ardchoille42: I was getting to that part.  :)
[08:35] <ardchoille42> po0f, :)
[08:35] <huda_hudi> Anyone used KDE with ubuntu?
[08:35] <Xif> po0f: Couldn't find package "gnome-games*". However, the following
[08:35] <Xif> packages contain "gnome-games*" in their name:
[08:35] <ardchoille42> huda_hudi, I have in the past
[08:36] <y0hm> aah xif you mean the default games , i thought you ment all games you installed ... sorry my bad !
[08:36] <Xif> huda_hudi: yeah, kubuntu
[08:36] <huda_hudi> I think KDE is too cluttered. Last time I used linux what suse came out with it s first commercial CD. I believe 6.1
[08:36] <ardchoille42> huda_hudi, You can safely use KDE apps in gnome, if that's your question
[08:36] <y0hm> thats why i found your question funny :)
[08:37] <huda_hudi> I know I can use KDE apps on Gnome.
[08:37] <SoulinEther> just throwing this out there
[08:37] <Xif> po0f: is there a way to aptitude purge all the packages with gnome-games in their name (in my case, gnome-games-extra-data gnome-games and gnome-games-data)?
[08:37] <crackhead[1] > Where is a good complete set of free instructions for installing ubuntu 6.10 with the alternate install/text-based installer?
[08:38] <po0f> Xif: sudo aptitude purge gnome-games gnome-games-data gnome-games-extra-data
[08:38] <SoulinEther> if you use kde and gnome, and you set up kde to be like the MacOS style with the menu bar at top... and you run KDE apps in GNOME, you may want to move the top GNOME app bar someplace else lol
[08:38] <ardchoille42> crackhead[1] , Have you tried that installer?
[08:38] <po0f> ;)
[08:38] <Xif> po0f: ok :)
[08:38] <m3xinugt> um what was that command to upgrade again... gksu -d -s ???? sumtin like that
[08:38] <huda_hudi> any site with top 10 ubuntu package?
[08:39] <pppoe_dude> m3xinugt, sudo update-manager
[08:39] <crackhead[1] > I've never used linux nor that text-based installer before. I was trying to install or even boot the livecd. It worked fine on one computer, but not mine, even though I know the media/burn is good and the CD device reads fine under Windows.
[08:39] <m3xinugt> oh that one is quicker i think...there was another command line one too....i'll try that one
[08:39] <pppoe_dude> m3xinugt, make sure you apt-get update/upgrade first
[08:39] <y0hm> crackhead what exactly didn't work ?
[08:39] <m3xinugt> k
[08:39] <mtholdenss> screensaver not working
[08:39] <ardchoille42> crackhead[1] , The alternatecd text installer is pretty self-explanatory.. I never had a problem using it. It's quite easy.
[08:40] <crackhead[1] > The CD goes to the first menu. I hit "installation". It reads and spins for a while, and then I get "can't boot from cd" (or equiv.) error.
[08:40] <y0hm> yeah the alt-cd is the only 1 to go 4
[08:40] <ardchoille42> I wonder what this is all about
[08:40] <pppoe_dude> me too
[08:40] <po0f> JEEZ
[08:40] <y0hm> hmm strange is your cdrom external ?
[08:40] <crackhead[1] > Seriously..
[08:40] <crackhead[1] > No, internal.
[08:40] <pppoe_dude> i can feel it comin my way
[08:41] <YoussefAssad> hello folks. Quick question.
[08:41] <m3xinugt> :)
[08:41] <YoussefAssad> Okay, if I'm running app A, which uses lib X. I have one version of lib X in /usr/lib/ and another in /usr/local/lib/. How do I know which one gets used?
[08:41] <y0hm> just plain ata ?
[08:41] <crackhead[1] > Plain CD burner. Liteon 12101B.
[08:41] <Xif> po0f: hah. appearantly, ubuntu-desktop depends on the various gnome-game packages.
[08:41] <po0f> YoussefAssad: `strace app`, look for what libraries it loads.
[08:41] <YoussefAssad> po0f: Alright, lemme look at that
[08:41] <po0f> Xif: ubuntu-desktop is a meta-opcakage anyway.
[08:41] <y0hm> I had issues booting / installing with USB external cdrom but also never with internal ata cdrom
[08:42] <po0f> package*
[08:42] <crackhead[1] > So, where can I find a good set of instructions to follow in using the alternate install Ubuntu 6.10 cd?
[08:42] <Xif> po0f: I still can't seem to uninstall the games with aptitude.
[08:42] <po0f> YoussefAssad: strace's output is _very_ verbose, you are warned.  ;)
[08:42] <crackhead[1] > Does the cd itself have instructions to follow, once the boot starts loading? Is there a first command I have to type to get it all starting?
[08:42] <YoussefAssad> po0f: Grep is my friend. I'm looking for a specific lib
[08:43] <y0hm> normally its just insert cd , boot press enter and off you go
[08:43] <po0f> Xif: Error?
[08:43] <ardchoille42> crackhead[1] , It's really really easy, the installer walks you through it. I wouldn't think anyone would need instructions.
[08:43] <Xif> po0f: `sudo aptitude purge gnome-games gnome-games-data gnome-games-extra-data` doesn't remove them, in any case. just downgrades them.
[08:43] <mtholdenss> screensaver not working
[08:43] <Xif> po0f: I'll pasetebin the entire output.
[08:43] <Madpilot> crackhead[1] , just drop it in, there are instructions
[08:43] <po0f> Xif: Ok.
[08:43] <crackhead[1] > The alternate does? I heard it was text-based, just a terminal..
[08:43] <y0hm> you can choose which instaall you want !
[08:43] <ardchoille42> crackhead[1] , Yes, but it's easyier than you think.
[08:44] <sciboy> mm/page_alloc.c:2533: error: mem_map undeclared (first use in this function)
[08:44] <sciboy> Crap
[08:44] <huda_hudi> can I install kubuntu alongside ubuntu without making another partition? just download it from synaptic?
[08:44] <crackhead[1] > I don't know the first command to hit, though. If you say the alternate install is that easy, I'll just put it in and see, I guess.. Thanks.
[08:44] <ardchoille42> huda_hudi, yes, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:44] <huda_hudi> thanks
[08:45] <y0hm> huda , yes you can install kde on Ubuntu or gnome on Kubuntu , whatever u like :)
[08:45] <po0f> huda_hudi: Use aptitude, it will remove all of kubuntu's dependencies as well if you choose to remove it.
[08:45] <ardchoille42> crackhead[1] , Pop the cd in, when it gets to the install menu, use the arrow keys to choose the type of install you want, press ENTER, and away you go.
[08:45] <nox-Hand> Eep. After making a beta-desing for my new website I realise it looks like Ubuntu :o http://nox-hand.com/docs/images/beta_design3.jpg
[08:45] <Xif> po0f: http://rafb.net/p/aPfIr868.html
[08:45] <ardchoille42> po0f, apt-get on Edgy will do that too
[08:46] <huda_hudi> po0f thanks
[08:46] <n2diy> Whoa, what happened, I got knocked off, and couldn't get back on for five + minutes?
[08:46] <YoussefAssad> right, /usr/local/lib/ before /usr/lib/
[08:46] <ardchoille42> n2diy, You and about 60 other people
[08:46] <YoussefAssad> Which is bad news. Mental note: go back in time and don't buy a 80 Gb video ipod
[08:46] <po0f> Xif: Just add 'ubuntu-desktop' along with the other packages to remove.
[08:47] <n2diy> ardchoille42: any idea why?
[08:47] <huda_hudi> thanks yohm
[08:47] <y0hm> np
[08:47] <ardchoille42> n2diy, Not other than maybe a freenode glitch
[08:47] <po0f> ardchoille42: Sorry, old habits.
[08:48] <ardchoille42> po0f, Yeah, I filed a bug about apt-get not removing unused deps on Dapper, so the version on Edgy has a new option "--auto-remove", it uninstalls unused deps.
[08:48] <n2diy> ardchoille42: ok, this is the only node I'm on, so I was at a loss has to how test if it was me, or the net.
[08:48] <huda_hudi> in my language my nick means "for no obvious reasons". :) Just thought I would share this information with you guys
[08:48] <ardchoille42> n2diy, It wasn't you
[08:48] <Xif> po0f: I got `I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/var/lib/scrollkeeper/(null)/scrollkeeper_cl.xml"`, but other than that, it seemed to do the trick. Thanks.
[08:48] <ardchoille42> huda_hudi, I was going to ask about that :)
[08:48] <po0f> Xif: Any reason you don't want the games?
[08:49] <Xif> po0f: I don't intend to use them, they clutter my Applications menu.
[08:49] <n2diy> ardchoille42: Roger that, and it is good news, I was starting to curse updates. :)
[08:49] <huda_hudi> :)
[08:49] <kurt> AHA
[08:49] <po0f> Xif: You could have just alacarte'd them away.
[08:49] <ardchoille42> n2diy, hahaha
[08:49] <kurt> cursing updates ??? just like i am doing
[08:49] <kurt> i updated gtkpod and now it doesnt work no more
[08:49] <Xif> po0f: would that be preferable to what we did eventually?
[08:49] <kurt> anyone know whast up with that
[08:50] <kurt> is there any way to rollback?
[08:50] <po0f> Xif: The end result is the same for you: you don't have games in your menu.  :)
[08:50] <kurt> anyone?
[08:50] <Xif> po0f: yeah (and I learned about meta packages :)
[08:50] <allad> hi guys. Is there a pdf virtual printer software for ubuntu?
[08:50] <huda_hudi> why are there still a lot of people using drapper and not updating to edgy?  Is it so hard? or they are afraid to break something by updating it.
[08:51] <y0hm> any1 know how to get sound on Quake III Arena on edgy ? using alsa ... if possible
[08:51] <n2diy> kurt: sorry I don't play with that.
[08:51] <kurt> i am trying out feisty
[08:51] <kurt> was working great till i updated tonigth
[08:51] <po0f> huda_hudi: 3 years of guaranteed support for desktop, 5 for server.  :)
[08:51] <kurt> everything was kicking,,,,
[08:52] <huda_hudi> poof. its free...
[08:52] <rofl> Are there any programs that will allow me to reverse an avi video clip?
[08:52] <kurt> how do you mean reverse?
[08:52] <ohnonoagain> hi
[08:52] <n2diy> kurt: and, I stick with 6.06 stable, I don't like living on the "edgy" or "feisty".
[08:52] <rofl> kurt: play it backwards
[08:52] <Xif> n2diy: also, 6.06 is LTS
[08:52] <rofl> and hopefully save it
[08:53] <allad> please, help. I found a good article on the net and I'd like to print it to pdf from firefox. Does someone know of any app that does that?
[08:53] <posingaspopular> room: I jave a d-link D1-514 wireless router and I need a wireless card to support i. Couldn't find any info on
[08:53] <posingaspopular>
[08:53] <posingaspopular> HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDlink
[08:53] <terapicodave> i have a laptop with an intel 950 GMA video card and want to fix the screen resolution...found a fix that mentions dapper but i'm on a fresh edgy...any suggestions?
[08:53] <kurt> beats me
[08:53] <posingaspopular> ideas? help?
[08:53] <n2diy> Xif: yes, I forgot to mention that.
[08:53] <ardchoille42> huda_hudi, I have my Dapper system working perfectly, I don't have time to upgrade to Edgy and I porbably won't due to the long support life. I may just wait until the version after Feisty Fawn to upgrade.
[08:53] <ardchoille42> Grumpy Gator?
[08:53] <ardchoille42> lol
[08:54] <SoulinEther> so... what command can i use to view permissions / access ?
[08:54] <rofl> anyone else know how to play an avi backwards?
[08:54] <po0f> SoulinEther: ls -l <file_or_dir>
[08:54] <SoulinEther> rofl: yes, manually change the frame order :)  no sorry I don't know how one would do that
[08:54] <SoulinEther> po0f: thanks
[08:54] <n2diy> SoulinEther: ls -al
[08:55] <ohnonoagain> put in in reverse
[08:55] <ohnonoagain> broom vroom
[08:55] <huda_hudi> I c <ardchoille42> I personally prefer to use the most updated version, even if it s alittle unstable. Not that I have a lot of experience with linux. But software in general.
[08:55] <y0hm> turn your monitor upside down :)
[08:55] <kurt> take lots of screenshots then run them backward
[08:55] <ardchoille42> y0hm, HA!
[08:55] <korgano> hi everybody - does anybody know how I can list all screen resolutions supported by my graphics driver?
[08:55] <ohnonoagain> throw your monitor over your head
[08:55] <kurt> feisty was great till I updated
[08:55] <mtholdenss> screensaver not wokring
[08:55] <SoulinEther> how do I change the owner of a file?
[08:55] <SoulinEther> chmod?
[08:56] <y0hm> chown
[08:56] <huda_hudi> still fiesty is not a stable release. but edgy is AFAIK
[08:56] <korgano> SoulinEther: chown
[08:56] <ardchoille42> chown
[08:56] <SoulinEther> thanks thanks :P
[08:56] <n2diy> SoulinEther: chown
[08:56] <ohnonoagain> hey im having trouble mapping to a drive on a windows box keeps asking for a password
[08:56] <ardchoille42> huda_hudi, Wold you be interested in helping test the devel version of Ubuntu?
[08:56] <nothlit> !ubuntu+1
[08:56] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[08:57] <huda_hudi> I do have a spare computer, so I wouldnt mind
[08:57] <huda_hudi> :)
[08:57] <nothlit> huda_hudi: canonical still recommends dapper though
[08:57] <ardchoille42> huda_hudi, You might want to /join ubuntu+1
[08:57] <po0f> Oh crap, F7 testing 1 is out.
[08:57] <kurt> hey ardchoille42  why did the update of gtkpod
[08:57] <Onburiiku> How do I get my speakers to work with Ubuntu?
[08:57] <kurt> make it stop working?
[08:57] <nothlit> ohnonoagain: if you're using sshfs, use -o guest
[08:57] <nothlit> ohnonoagain: err smbfs*
[08:57] <nothlit> !alsa | Onburiiku
[08:57] <ubotu> Onburiiku: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:57] <ardchoille42> kurt, I haven't ever used that app, I don't know.
[08:58] <po0f> ARGH.
[08:58] <ardchoille42> hi riotkittie
[08:58] <kurt> darn it, it was great till tonight
[08:58] <riotkittie> hi ardchoille42
[08:58] <kurt> riotkittie
[08:58] <kurt> i saw you on freenode didnt I?
[08:58] <huda_hudi> ubuntu+1 That channel doesn't exist
[08:58] <huda_hudi> -
[08:58] <huda_hudi> :)
[08:58] <posingaspopular> riotkittie: babies!
[08:58] <riotkittie> kurt: this is freenode :P
[08:58] <ohnonoagain> actaully now its telling me i don't have permission to view
[08:59] <variant> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/binary-driver-education <-- that really sucks
[08:59] <ardchoille42> huda_hudi, #ubuntu+1
[08:59] <nothlit> huda_hudi: yes it does
[08:59] <huda_hudi> got it :)
[08:59] <riotkittie> posingaspopular: not now dear, i have a headache.
[08:59] <ardchoille42> nothlit, My bad, I forgot the "#"
[08:59] <ohnonoagain> i can see the drive and others on the box all others i can get to
[08:59] <ardchoille42> riotkittie, hehe
[09:00] <huda_hudi> I just copy and pasted. :)
[09:00] <huda_hudi> Welcome to the Ubuntu Feisty Fawn support channel | Feisty is NOT stable, and not even close to usable | Feisty Herd 2 released http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd2 | Please don't use Feisty if you need a working system or you can't afford to have a broken system |
[09:00] <huda_hudi> makes sense ...
[09:00] <posingaspopular> aw sorry
[09:00] <ohnonoagain> would it be because its a partitioned drive
[09:00] <n2diy> uh oh, a crazy cat with  a head ache!? Danger.
[09:01] <kurt> oh
[09:01] <kurt> i saw it say ubuntu servers so i just clicked the first one i saw
[09:01] <ohnonoagain> now i think about it its the only drive that is a the second partition on that harddrive
[09:01] <kurt> riotkittie: gtkpod is broken :(
[09:01] <steelb> is there any way to put portage into my ubuntus?
[09:02] <n2diy> ! portage
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about portage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <ohnonoagain> maybe its something to do with that
[09:02] <ohnonoagain> whats portage?
[09:02] <nothlit> steelb: ubuntu has its own source system, using apt-get
[09:02] <kurt> ok one more question...
[09:02] <alienseer23> quich q: can anyone suggest a program for handling RatDVD files??
[09:02] <steelb> i know, i want portage too
[09:02] <nothlit> ohnonoagain: its gentoo's application management system
[09:02] <kurt> where does wine put drive_c in ubuntu?
[09:02] <ohnonoagain> i see
[09:03] <steelb> it compiles the thing instead of just installing
[09:03] <variant> kurt: .wine/drive_c
[09:03] <ardchoille42> kurt, I believe in ~/.wine
[09:03] <nothlit> kurt: ~/.wine/drive_c
[09:03] <SoulinEther> wow, setting up wordpress through ubuntu is a lot more difficult than through ftp...
[09:03] <kurt> ty... (duh)
[09:03] <nothlit> SoulinEther: setup ftp then =p
[09:03] <variant> SoulinEther: because wordpress sucks mostly :) just try upgrading it!
[09:03] <ohnonoagain> anyone ever had a problem mapping to a partition drive on a windoze box?
[09:03] <nothlit> SoulinEther: but i wouldnt see why, you can copy and paste and chmod
[09:04] <kurt> cool
[09:04] <nothlit> ohnonoagain: i said use -o guest
[09:04] <gholen> anyone who can name a good textbased FTP-client?
[09:04] <SoulinEther> nothlit: because, me and command lines don't work well together =]
[09:04] <huda_hudi> trying out kubuntu.
[09:04] <ohnonoagain> it wont even give me the option for a password now
[09:04] <nothlit> ohnonoagain: you said you don't want the password
[09:04] <n2diy> ! dvorak
[09:04] <SoulinEther> nothlit: But I got it set up and I guess that's all that matters! lol
[09:04] <ubotu> dvorak is a keyboard layout that aims to be more comfortable and efficient alternative to the standard "QWERTY" pattern. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard
[09:04] <kurt> wine setup.exe
[09:05] <SoulinEther> dvorak actually is quite nice
[09:05] <nothlit> ohnonoagain: also, you can only map to //computer/sharename... not //computer/sharename/folder
[09:05] <SoulinEther> and you can learn how to type dvorak using KTouch so that's cool
[09:05] <nothlit> ohnonoagain: if you have writing problems, use -o guest,uid=1000
[09:05] <ohnonoagain> i dont but it is not requesting one just saying i don't have permission
[09:05] <n2diy> ! dvorak | SoulinEther
[09:05] <ubotu> SoulinEther: dvorak is a keyboard layout that aims to be more comfortable and efficient alternative to the standard "QWERTY" pattern. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard
[09:05] <SoulinEther> I know what DVORAK is, lol, I have it set up on this box atm :)
[09:06] <n2diy> SoulinEther: cool, I've been using it for years. Sometimes you have to bite the bullet, and use the command line.
[09:07] <riotkittie> KTouch annoyed me a great deal; i couldnt use it :P
[09:07] <kurt> i just got an error in something or other hope my cd aint damaged...
[09:07] <nothlit> SoulinEther: if you have trouble, use alt+f2 gksudo nautilus and pretend its your ftp client
[09:08] <y0hm> notlith in what exactly does gksudo differ from sudo ?
[09:08] <starz> well.
[09:08] <starz> isnt this just nice.
[09:08] <gharz> guys, i've just updated my kernel manually (not from the update manager) to ver <IP_ADDRESS> and unluckily it doesn't detect my wireless card. when i enter lspci command it shows my intel pro wireless 2100.
[09:08] <starz> i reboot the ubuntu and now the mouse is ullllllllllllllltra laggy
[09:08] <starz> i just cant have this system doing that.
[09:08] <starz> sigh.
[09:08] <ardchoille42> y0hm, It's explained here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[09:08] <riotkittie> gksudo sets up the environment properly for GUI apps
[09:09] <y0hm> thx ardchoille
[09:09] <ardchoille42> y0hm, yw
[09:09] <riotkittie> and tastes like chicken
[09:09] <n2diy> gksudo | y0hm
[09:09] <nothlit> y0hm: sudo can mess up permissions with gui apps, and make it impossible to do things without root
[09:09] <n2diy> ! es
[09:09] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:10] <n2diy> ! gksudo | y0hm
[09:10] <ubotu> y0hm: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>
[09:10] <kurt> anyone here knows wine?
[09:10] <Tru7h> ! fr
[09:10] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:10] <po0f> kurt: I prefer beer.
[09:11] <ardchoille42> lol
[09:11] <n2diy> Beer!?
[09:11] <y0hm> funny they say you can't run kate with sudo but i'm 100% sure you can !
[09:11] <kurt> i tried to use wineto install baldurs gate
[09:11] <n2diy> Where's the beer!?
[09:11] <po0f> kurt: And?
[09:11] <kurt> but it gives me the same problem as suse did ejecting cds
[09:12] <y0hm> thx every1 :)
[09:12] <kurt> if i unmount it then stick in the 2nd cd and then mount it again
[09:12] <kurt> will that work?
[09:12] <po0f> kurt: If it happens between distros, it's probably a problem with Wine.
[09:12] <kurt> or will it screw wine
[09:12] <po0f> kurt: It couldn't hurt to try.  :)
[09:12] <kurt> ithink wine has an issue with letting the drive go so you can switch cds
[09:13] <y0hm> ubotu , why ? Is it dangerous to sudo gui apps ?
[09:13] <Tru7h> Anybody know a good program to play mp4s?
[09:13] <kurt> but when i did that in suse the mounted cd looked screwy
[09:13] <ardchoille42> y0hm, ubotu is a bot
[09:13] <ardchoille42> y0hm, And yes, it's dangerous to use sudo with GUI apps
[09:13] <po0f> ardchoille42: No he's not, he's my friend...
[09:13] <n2diy> ! gksudo | y0hm
[09:13] <ubotu> y0hm: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>
[09:13] <y0hm> lol he got me there :)
[09:14] <kurt> i copied the files to home/kurt/cd1 /home/kurt/cd2 etc
[09:14] <kurt> tehn installed from there and that worked
[09:14] <kurt> was hoping things had changed
[09:14] <po0f> kurt: Why can't you do that now?
[09:14] <kurt> anyway time for that tomorrow
[09:14] <Xif> GVim7 is represented in the task-switch-bar by a generic icon. Anyone knows how to change it to the GVim icon?
[09:14] <kurt> cause i need a little sleeep tonight
[09:14] <kurt> even if just a little
[09:14] <kurt> night folks
[09:14] <arn_> how can i install pgadmin in ubuntu?
[09:15] <po0f> Xif: The Alt-Tab menu?
[09:15] <Quarupt> Hey whats an easy way to enable the 1280x1024 Resolution, do I have to manually edit the file or is there an easier way?
[09:15] <ardchoille42> Xif, Maybe changing the Icon="blah" line in /usr/share/applications Gvim7 ?
[09:15] <n2diy> ! pgadmin
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pgadmin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <Xif> po0f: yeah
[09:15] <po0f> Xif: It looks fine for me.
[09:16] <bart_> I did it manually Quarupt
[09:16] <po0f> Xif: I know that doesn't help you though.  ;)
[09:16] <Kikeh> Hello, I ran a PPC install of ubuntu on my G3 imac with success, but I get to the login screen and I log in, I hear the login sound for gnome, but it is taking an unbearably long time to load
[09:16] <Kikeh> even OS 9.2 was faster
[09:16] <Quarupt> bart_, I just dont wanna bork my X like last time i tried
[09:16] <ardchoille42> Quarupt, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" is how I did it.
[09:16] <Kikeh> anyone can help?
[09:16] <po0f> Xif: What's the icon that's displayed in the upper-left corner?
[09:16] <Xif> po0f: are you using the same version as me? 7.0-035+1ubuntu4
[09:16] <Xif> (vim-full)
[09:16] <y0hm> lol I miss os 9.2 :)
[09:17] <Kikeh> y0hm, believe me, you dont XD
[09:17] <y0hm> lol
[09:17] <Xif> po0f: the same generic white icon.
[09:17] <n2diy> Kikeh: let her cook. How long has she been cooking?
[09:17] <po0f> Xif: *ubuntu5
[09:17] <Quarupt> ardchoille42, what does that do exactly?
[09:17] <y0hm> a true old friend Os 9.2 :)
[09:17] <Kikeh> n2diy, for about 3 mins or so and gnome still isn't fully loaded
[09:17] <Xif> po0f: hm?
[09:17] <n2diy> Kikeh: let her cook.
[09:18] <Kikeh> n2diy, it's so bad, I might as well be using an Intel i386  >_<
[09:18] <ardchoille42> Quarupt, That reconfigures xorg.conf to allow you to edit it
[09:18] <po0f> Xif: 7.0-035+1ubuntu5 is what I'm using.
[09:18] <huda_hudi> bye guys thanks for all the help :)
[09:18] <YoussefAssad> has anyone had any issues with getting podcasts properly onto their ipod?
[09:18] <Xif> po0f: how would I upgrade then?  this is the latest per apt-cache
[09:18] <Kikeh> n2diy, is this normal though?
[09:18] <Xif> po0f: maybe you're not using vim-full?
[09:18] <Quarupt> ardchoille42, ya but I dont know like what driver to change or the monitor settings and all that
[09:18] <dinamizador> la leche q es en ingles
[09:18] <Kikeh> n2diy, cause even the mouse lags
[09:18] <bart_> ah, I see, I had no trouble by configuring xorg.conf
[09:18] <po0f> Xif: I am, it's one of the first things I install.  ;)
[09:19] <ardchoille42> Quarupt, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak  to make a backup if you're afraid of hurting it.
[09:19] <po0f> Xif: Also, this is a day old install, with all repos enabled.
[09:19] <Xif> po0f: yeah, I don't understand it. possibly it's on a repo I don't have?
[09:19] <Quarupt> ardchoille42, how can I tell if my 3d accel is working?
[09:19] <ardchoille42> Quarupt, I don't know
[09:19] <po0f> Quarupt: glxinfo | grep direct
[09:19] <Xif> po0f: could you check which repo you got yours from?
[09:20] <Xif> is it Dapper btw?
[09:20] <variant> do the deb-src apt sources install the source code for every application you have installed or is this something else?
[09:20] <ardchoille42> po0f, That won't tell if 3d accel is working
[09:20] <Quarupt> po0f, what do I look for in the verbose?
[09:20] <po0f> Xif: Edgy.
[09:20] <n2diy> Kikeh:  Give it time, be patient.
[09:20] <variant> ardchoille42: yes it will..
[09:20] <Kikeh> n2diy, okay ;_;
[09:20] <Xif> po0f: hm, so anything I can do?
[09:20] <ardchoille42> po0f, That returns "Direct Rendering: Yes" on my onboard graphics with the default Ubuntu driver.
[09:20] <Xif> (I'm on dapper)
[09:20] <ardchoille42> variant, That returns "Direct Rendering: Yes" on my onboard graphics with the default Ubuntu driver.
[09:20] <variant> ardchoille42: that means you have 3d rendering accelleration
[09:21] <variant> ardchoille42: what graphics card is it?
[09:21] <n2diy> Kikeh:  Is the box showing activity, HD, Led etc...?
[09:21] <po0f> Xif: Compile from source!  :D
[09:21] <ardchoille42> variant, But 3d apps and screensavers cause the system to lag badly
[09:21] <variant> ardchoille42: what graphics card is it?
[09:21] <ardchoille42> variant, onboard graphics
[09:21] <po0f> Xif: It's probably an issue with Dapper.
[09:21] <variant> ardchoille42: make/model?
[09:21] <ardchoille42> variant, on an AMD Sempron 2800+
[09:21] <Kikeh> n2diy, it's a mac, I dunno where those lights even are
[09:21] <variant> ardchoille42: what is the graphics chip in use?
[09:22] <po0f> Xif: If you desperately need that icon, file a bug.  :)
[09:22] <Quarupt> ardchoille42, I think easy ubuntu installed the right driver but I dunno, I need to check somehow
[09:22] <Kikeh> n2diy, but I know it's loading stuff cause things keep loading
[09:22] <ardchoille42> variant, I don't know, I just know that direct rendering means the hardware does the work, it doesn't mean you can get 3d accel
[09:22] <econobeing> i have my FAT partition of my HD set to automatically mount at startup, but only root can read/write/execute. how can i fix that? i tried chown and chmod, but that didn't work
[09:22] <n2diy> Kikeh: let her cook.
[09:22] <variant> ardchoille42: your mistaken, direct rendering = 3d accelleration
[09:22] <econobeing> here's my fstab entry for it: /dev/hda2    /media/hda2    vfat     auto,user,exec,rw,sync     0     0
[09:23] <Xif> po0f: I'm using GVim a lot, and having more than one generic icon in the ALT-TAB menu means I'll constantly be confused.
[09:23] <variant> ardchoille42: please run update-pciids && lspci and pastebin teh output
[09:23] <ardchoille42> variant, ok, won't argue, I just know Direct Rendering: Yes but I can't get 3d accel here.
[09:23] <y0hm> econo use ( check first :) )the -R flag on chmod !
[09:23] <n2diy> is there a channel for ppc users?
[09:23] <n2diy> ! ppc
[09:23] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[09:23] <econobeing> awww, this is like the 100th time i've forgotten -R
[09:23] <variant> ardchoille42: i assure you that if you ahve direct rendering it means that any 3d instructions are being executed on the graphics hardwareinstead of in software via the main cpu. this = 3d accelleratio
[09:23] <y0hm> lol
[09:24] <ardchoille42> variant, I was told that hardware rendering takes the work off the CPU, it doesn't mean you get 3d accel.
[09:24] <n2diy> ! ppc | Kikeh
[09:24] <ubotu> Kikeh: ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[09:24] <Xif> ardchoille42: btw, I checked what you asked, and it's ok. (the Icon in gvim.desktop is set correctly)
[09:24] <Kikeh> n2diy, well gnome fully loaded and my mouse stopped lagging, but as soon as I told the update manager to remind me later, it started the laggyness all over again
[09:24] <variant> ardchoille42: you were told wrong, ardchoille42 check the wikipedia article on DRI it is quite informative
[09:25] <variant> ardchoille42: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Rendering_Infrastructure
[09:25] <n2diy> Kikeh: let her cook, she is now doing basic housekeeping, at a new home. :)
[09:25] <kazuka> night guys
[09:25] <variant> ardchoille42: be carefull what people in here tell you, they are normally not as experienced or knowledgable as they seem (i include myself in that description)
[09:25] <econobeing> do i have to re-start for it to take effect? because it didn't appear to do anything
[09:26] <Kikeh> n2diy, but the problem is that even when I just click the gnome panel's applications menu, it lags like a slug and I know this can't be normal o.o
[09:26] <po0f> econobeing: Change the mount options to include "umask=000".
[09:27] <n2diy> Kikeh: this is a fresh install, right?
[09:27] <variant> ardchoille42: please will you tell me what graphics chip it is?
[09:27] <Kikeh> n2diy, yeah, but fresh installs on other comps in the past were never like this...o.o
[09:28] <n2diy> Kikeh: good, linux is trying to make sure it gets things right, the first time, let her cook. Thing s will get better.
[09:29] <po0f> n2diy: "let her cook", how do you get her to do that?
[09:29] <Kikeh> you're sure?  cause this is a mission critical computer, it needs to be capable of recording music without this kind of lag...XD
[09:29] <econobeing> /dev/hda2    /media/hda2    vfat     auto,user,exec,rw,sync,umask=000     0     0
[09:29] <econobeing> good?
[09:30] <keeganX> You guys know where I can gslist for ubuntu?
[09:30] <n2diy> Kikeh: stay out of the kitchen! :)  Linux is figuring out what you have in your 'kitchen" and is trying to work with what you have.
[09:30] <blaa> hi all
[09:31] <po0f> econobeing: Now, `mount -o remount /media/hda2`.
[09:31] <jussi01> hei all, can anyone tell me how to change the color a minimised gaim window flashes when you get a message?
[09:31] <econobeing> hmm, it still doesn't let me create files
[09:32] <kiwinz_sucks> jussi01, you can't, it's decided by your Gnome skin
[09:32] <po0f> econobeing: mount | grep hda2, what does it say the options are?
[09:32] <jussi01> oh...doh!!
[09:32] <y0hm> econo it seems u didn't do the proper chown & chmod commands
[09:33] <y0hm> for your permissions
[09:33] <jussi01> thanks anyway... btw is there a way to customise your own gnome skin? can someone point me to a tutorial?
[09:33] <po0f> y0hm: It's a vfat filesystem.
[09:33] <maverick> hey guys how would i install win xp on a seperate drive on my system with ubuntu already installed on a drive in it?
[09:33] <kiwinz_sucks> jussi01, go to System>Preferences?Theme
[09:33] <econobeing> sudo chmod -R a+x hda2
[09:33] <kiwinz_sucks> gnome-look.org has themes you can download
[09:34] <y0hm> does it differ from normal mounts/disks ?
[09:34] <blaa>  how to migrate from windows to ubntu?
[09:34] <econobeing> replace "x" with "w" and "r"
[09:34] <econobeing> ?
[09:34] <ardchoille42> jussi01,  http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes
[09:34] <variant> maverick: when booting the windows cd just selectt he partition/drive to install to. you will have to reboot to the ubuntu cd and reinstall grub
[09:34] <y0hm> poOf ,how does it differ from normal mounts/disks ?
[09:34] <variant> maverick: as windows will overwrite grub
[09:34] <Kikeh> I run sudo apt-get install audacity but it says it cant find it, where is audacity?
[09:34] <ardchoille42> !info audacity
[09:35] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB
[09:35] <variant> maverick: the simplest option is to take out the ubuntu disk and install xp, then reinsert the ubuntu disk and set grub to be able to boot win
[09:35] <po0f> y0hm: It doesn't support the permissions that Linux-native filesystems use.
[09:35] <y0hm> i know under NT fat has no permission like structure
[09:35] <ardchoille42> Kikeh, It's in universe
[09:35] <variant> ardchoille42: just type !audacity
[09:35] <maverick> variant: i duno i installed vista on the second drive last week and although the pc defaulted to vista boot loader if i unplug the drive grub is still intact on the first drive
[09:35] <Kikeh> !audacity
[09:35] <n2diy> ! audacity | po0f
[09:35] <jussi01> thanks all!!!
[09:35] <econobeing> i'm going to re-boot and see what happens, brb
[09:35] <y0hm> aah so it doesnt inherit linux permissions ..; ok
[09:35] <variant> maverick: you need to set the ubuntu drive as the primary boot device then it will pick up grub
[09:36] <newbie> grub
[09:36] <variant> maverick: add vista to the grub config file in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:36] <n2diy> ! audacity
[09:36] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB
[09:36] <maverick> variant: hmm im pritty sure i did that (that was my original idea of how to do it) but it didnt work
[09:36] <maverick> variant: i'll give it another try. will brb
[09:38] <econobeing> hmm, it works after rebooting :D
[09:38] <po0f> econobeing: :)
[09:39] <y0hm> would MSDOS have the same effect as VFAT as fylesystem ?
[09:40] <jussi01> ardchoille42: damn after reading that i feel stupid...
[09:40] <po0f> y0hm: I would assume as far as Linux is concerned, yes.
[09:40] <ardchoille42> jussi01, I did too, lol
[09:40] <Kikeh> n2diy, how long should I expect this kind of lag?  It still hasn't improved at all
[09:40] <y0hm> i c !
[09:41] <jussi01> anyone of you who is a lot smarter than me feel like editing 2 things in a theme?
[09:41] <qbubble> I just installed my first edgy. Everything works fine, until i install the nvidia drivers (sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common). Somehow, ubuntu installs  the following modules as well:"""""""binutils-static linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386 linux restricted-modules-common""""""". Everything goes fine, no errors etc etc. But when i reboot my system, it boots into another kernel!!!! This "386" kernel
[09:41] <qbubble>  doesn't support SMP, so i can't use my X2 3800's second core :(. I already reinstalled and tried again : same issue. Any suggestions?
[09:41] <n2diy> Kikeh: it hasn't done anything yet? Can you turn your keyboard and caps LEDs on and off?
[09:42] <n2diy> keyboard should have been numlocks.
[09:42] <po0f> qbubble: After installing *-generic kernels, you can uninstall *-386 ones.
[09:42] <y0hm> qbubble i think you installed from a repo that has added the old kernel-sources
[09:42] <starz> hey po0f
[09:42] <Kikeh> n2diy, yes, but I just mean that programs like Terminal take over 3 mins to load and the Applications menu takes at least 1 minute to show up and most apps dont even load properly
[09:42] <starz> when i did the update
[09:43] <starz> it installed the generic kernel amongst other things
[09:43] <starz> and now the mouse on the system is ullllllllllllllllllllllllllltra laggy
[09:43] <starz> any clue why that would be on edgy?
[09:43] <Jordan_U> Kikeh: What hardware?
[09:43] <po0f> starz: What kind of mouse is it?
[09:43] <starz> i mean this system has no business running edgy really but that was the only one i could get the wireless card working with
[09:43] <qbubble> y0hm: the catch is: if i boot into my edgy installation with the RIGHT (smp capable) kernel, X won't boot (complains that nvidia kernel module can't be loaded)
[09:43] <starz> standard ps2
[09:43] <Kikeh> Jordan_U imac G3 500MHz, 20GB HDD, 256 MB RAM
[09:43] <starz> was working fine before reboot
[09:44] <n2diy> Kikeh: ok, try reloading them, the first time around a lot of setup goes on, it should be quicker on the second pass.
[09:44] <starz> tried reconfigging xserver-xorg but that didnt help
[09:44] <starz> using onboard savage
[09:44] <y0hm> qbubble i'm using latest nvidia driver with edgy with smp
[09:44] <po0f> starz: What are the specs?    No mouse lag.  :)
[09:46] <starz> 14"x14"x3"
[09:46] <Kikeh> Jordan_U, I can deal with a bit of slowness, but I mean, it's so bad that I might as well be using a Pentium 1 with MMX  :P  OS 9.2 wasn't nearly this bad which is why I am convinced that something is wrong
[09:46] <y0hm> qbubble yes and downloading the right kernel-sources
[09:46] <starz> well po0f that sux for me
[09:46] <y0hm> its easy
[09:46] <starz> i really wanted dapper but that was crap
[09:46] <qbubble> y0hm: plz clarify : right kernel-sources (u mean the generic ones?)
[09:46] <y0hm> yes
[09:47] <po0f> starz: Pastebin the InputDevice section for the mouse?
[09:47] <y0hm> linux-headers-generic if i'm correct
[09:47] <Jordan_U> Kikeh: Gnome is bloated, try Xubuntu, I think the main bottleneck is memory.
[09:47] <starz> po0f im not in nix atm im in winblows and no ext3 drivers installed.. sigh.
[09:47] <qbubble> y0hm: ok will try, don't like to choose between smp and nvidia (over nv)
[09:47] <keeganX> Anyone know where I can find gslist?
[09:47] <keeganX> I need it for XQF
[09:47] <y0hm> qbubble i got a great performance improvement as well after the fresh install
[09:47] <Kikeh> Jordan_U, does it help to know that KDE was just the same?  XD  And this happens even when I am merely trying to log in.  The login screen even lags like nuts when I am logging in
[09:47] <Jordan_U> qbubble: The nvidia kernel has SMP support also AFIK
[09:48] <y0hm> with the SMP kernel & new driver :)
[09:48] <po0f> starz: I know what you're talking about with the wireless.  It took me 3 days getting mine to work, and only after a last resort reinstall.
[09:48] <starz> yeah
[09:48] <qbubble> Jordan_U: how do i get that "nvidia kernel" ?
[09:48] <starz> i think i could probably get it going in dapper this time around
[09:48] <starz> but damnit i dont wanna reinstall
[09:48] <starz> ~_~
[09:48] <po0f> starz: Of course, I forget to backup ~/projects.  :(
[09:49] <Jordan_U> Kikeh: KDE is just as bloated as Gnome :) also, I assume you have an ATI card, which explains a lot of the slowness also :)
[09:49] <Jordan_U> !nvidia | qbubble
[09:49] <ubotu> qbubble: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:49] <acts_as_idiot> Can anyone answer a newbie question? What's the maximum number of extended partitions I can have on a disk?
[09:49] <po0f> starz: Reinstalls are fun!
[09:49] <Kikeh> Jordan_U, but why would this be worse than OS 9 or even OS X?
[09:49] <po0f> acts_as_idiot: That is a weird question, how many do you _need_?
[09:50] <starz> ha
[09:50] <acts_as_idiot> I want 2
[09:50] <starz> installed ext3 driver
[09:50] <starz> !paste
[09:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:50] <starz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3565/
[09:50] <starz> there u go po0f
[09:50] <po0f> acts_as_idiot: I don't see how that could be a problem, but I haven't personally tried it myself.
[09:51] <starz> had changed it to vesa as last resort... but po0f does the edgy install cd install generic kernel or what
[09:51] <Jordan_U> Kikeh: In OS 9 and X you have proper drivers ( ATI hates Linux, their linux drivers are a joke ) also, OSX uses a GPU accelerated window manager, like Beryl / compiz in Linux.
[09:51] <acts_as_idiot> poof: I'm trying to use gparted, I have 1 exisiting primary, 1 extended, 1 limux-swap. gParted won't let me create another extended.
[09:51] <starz> acts_as_idiot do you have open space?
[09:52] <y0hm> !yes
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <acts_as_idiot> startz: yup 100G
[09:52] <y0hm> !mdadm
[09:52] <starz> what order are your current partitions in
[09:52] <ubotu> mdadm: tool to administer Linux MD device arrays (software RAID). In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.1-6ubuntu5.2 (edgy), package size 149 kB, installed size 456 kB
[09:52] <po0f> acts_as_idiot: That's what I figured.
[09:52] <y0hm> mdadm .. very cool stuff :)
[09:52] <starz> !maid
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <y0hm> !starz
[09:53] <y0hm> lol
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about starz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <starz> po0f http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3565/ is xorg.conf
[09:53] <Kikeh> Jordan_U, so it makes perfect sense that Linux is unbearably slow compared to OSX?
[09:53] <mneptok> please do not abuse the bot.
[09:53] <starz> lol
[09:53] <y0hm> hehe
[09:53] <starz> Kikeh what cpu are you using?
[09:53] <Jordan_U> Kikeh: On that hardware, yes.
[09:53] <Kikeh> starz, G3 500MHz
[09:53] <starz> to me edgy is like vista./. really needs better hardware
[09:53] <acts_as_idiot> startz: first two ext3 primary partitions, then 100G unallocated, then the extended (which has the swap as a logical).
[09:54] <mneptok> Kikeh: RAM?
[09:54] <starz> right for that i would be running dapper or the one before that
[09:54] <Kikeh> mneptok, 256MB
[09:54] <Jordan_U> Kikeh: BUT, nothing will beat the speed of Fluxbox, and XFCE isn't bad either.
[09:54] <starz> acts_as_idiot ah
[09:54] <mneptok> Kikeh: i'd use Xubuntu. which will be faster than 10.4 on that hardware.
[09:54] <Kikeh> mneptok, alrighty
[09:55] <Kikeh> ty then ppl
[09:55] <Kikeh> I will install Xubuntu instead
[09:55] <starz> mneptok how about server install + enlightenment <3
[09:55] <y0hm> yes Xfce runs really light
[09:55] <oxygen> hi
[09:55] <oxygen> how can i convert ext2 to ext3
[09:55] <acts_as_idiot> poof: that's what you figured?
[09:55] <po0f> starz: The only thing I can think of is maybe changing ExplorerPS/2 to ImPS/2?
[09:55] <mneptok> Kikeh: don't get mad at Linux because ATI provides closed, crappy drivers. get mad at ATI, vote with your wallet, and tell them.
[09:55] <mneptok> gah
[09:56] <po0f> acts_as_idiot: I don't really see a need for more than one extended partition.
[09:56] <starz> po0f kay i'll try that.
[09:56] <starz> mneptok agreed nvidia > all
[09:56] <ardchoille42> mneptok, Good advice
[09:56] <qbubble> Jordan_U: tnx m8, got a bit further :D
[09:56] <Jordan_U> mneptok: And on the PPC side nvidia is actually worse believe it or not :)
[09:56] <po0f> mneptok: You're weird.
[09:56] <Eons> hi; why beagled (and beaglehelper) are always in --debug mode?
[09:57] <y0hm> never had problems with nvidia on my g4 & G5
[09:57] <ctiu> ned help on runing a .SH files.... how can i locate and run the installer?
[09:57] <acts_as_idiot> poof: Yes, I guess you have a point. I could put everything under the one extended.  But I'm planning to use LVM later, with XEN, I just don't know if it matters
[09:57] <mneptok> po0f: maybe so, but my Ubuntu install is working great. ;)
[09:57] <po0f> ctiu: What are you trying to install?
[09:57] <Jordan_U> y0hm: Never tried to run any OpenGL apps then I assume :)
[09:58] <ctiu> po0f, im trying to install an Oracle Database ^^,
[09:58] <y0hm> Jordan on Xfce u mean ?
[09:58] <tafryn> Has anyone managed to set up ruby and ruby-debug in edgy?
[09:58] <po0f> mneptok: Might as well just make one big partition then, no swap partition even, use a swap FILE!
[09:58] <y0hm> like VLC with GL overlay ?
[09:58] <mneptok> po0f: huh?
[09:58] <po0f> mneptok: Being sarcastic.  :)
[09:59] <y0hm> or kxmame
[09:59] <soundray> ctiu: you should get the .deb package from Oracle
[09:59] <y0hm> or #beryl
[09:59] <acts_as_idiot> poof: did you mean your reply for me?
[09:59] <mneptok> po0f: why use extended partitions from the FAT16 DOS days when every OS not coded by baboons is perfectly happy with multiple primary partitions?
[09:59] <po0f> acts_as_idiot: Which one?
[09:59] <mrtim> hi, is the an /etc/sudoers file equivelent for gksu? I've incredibly ugly fading on gnome with beryl + gksu.
[09:59] <acts_as_idiot> poof: about no swap
[09:59] <jussi01> hei all again, when editing a theme (gtkrc in gedit), does anyone know what to change to change the color that the windows flash in the status bar?
[10:00] <po0f> mneptok: Because, at one point, I had 9 partitions on one hard drive.  You can only have 4 primary.
[10:00] <metropolis> salve
[10:00] <po0f> acts_as_idiot: No.
[10:00] <soundray> mrtim: gksu reads /etc/sudoers as well
[10:00] <mneptok> po0f: well, i did say "not coded by baboons" ;)
[10:00] <mrtim> soundray: thanks, must have got some config wrong somwhere!
[10:01] <frafra> hi all
[10:01] <soundray> !hi
[10:01] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:01] <illriginal> I have a question, I have a FX5200 NVIDIA Card, can I safely install NVIDIA GLX?
[10:01] <po0f> illriginal: Yes.
[10:01] <mneptok> yes
[10:01] <illriginal> thank you
[10:02] <qbubble> TNX ALL FOR REPLY, GOT PROBLEM SOLVED. #Ubuntu FTW
[10:02] <po0f> qbubble: Lol, glad to help.
[10:02] <acts_as_idiot> mneptok: so you don't use extended partitions? How do you have more than 4 on one drive?
[10:02] <mneptok> acts_as_idiot: LVM
[10:02] <frafra> I've plugged my usb webcam, and the modules are loaded. It seems to be on /dev/video0, but all the programs say that it can't use this device...
[10:02] <illriginal> brb
[10:03] <po0f> mneptok: You have to do a server install to get LVM, correct?
[10:03] <jussi01> hei all again, when editing a theme (gtkrc in gedit), does anyone know what to change to change the color that the windows flash in the status bar? anyone?
[10:03] <soundray> frafra: you need to add yourself to the group that can read the device
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> po0f: no.
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> po0f: Regular alternate CD has it
[10:04] <acts_as_idiot> mneptok: actuallly I want to use LVM, but I also want to separate /boot , /, /var, /usr ...do you put these under LVM too?
[10:04] <po0f> Yay, I just spent 20 min downloading desktop herd2.
[10:04] <jussi01> :(
[10:05] <mneptok> acts_as_idiot: /boot should never exist inside an LVM. but the others are safe.
[10:05] <frafra> soundray, I've added the users to the video audio, but the problem is the same
[10:05] <kvossen> My gnome session won't start, it tells me to look in xsession-errors, but there are no errors, last line is /etc/gdm/Xsession: beginning session setup. I tried this with a brand new user as well, and this gives exactly the same problem. Any ideas?
[10:05] <soundray> frafra: you need to log out an in again to activate group participation
[10:05] <acts_as_idiot> mneptok: ok, so /boot in ome primary, one more primary for LVM, and that's it?
[10:06] <mneptok> acts_as_idiot: /boot on a primary. swap space on primary. Windows on primary. everything else on LVM.
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: why swap too?
[10:07] <acts_as_idiot> mneptok: windows haha
[10:07] <po0f> mneptok: FC puts swap in the LVM.
[10:07] <mneptok> po0f: and?
[10:07] <mneptok> :)
[10:07] <acts_as_idiot> poof: FC?
[10:07] <y0hm> soundray , is it enough to add "myself" to the video group for dev/video permissions to be set up right
[10:08] <po0f> mneptok: Hey, you're the one that's all, "uhh, LVM", I'm just saying.  :)
[10:08] <po0f> acts_as_idiot: Fedora Core.
[10:08] <soundray> y0hm: it may or may not be. The permissions on thd device have to be correct, too. (They usually are if the device is created by edgy udev.)
[10:08] <valehru_> Hey guys, I'm trying apt-get upgrade however I am getting the error that the following packages have been kept back: libwnck18 linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386 nvidia-glx
[10:09] <valehru_> help please...
[10:09] <mneptok> sudo aptitude update
[10:09] <y0hm> k i'll check it ,thx !
[10:09] <ardchoille42> valehru, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:09] <po0f> valehru_: Don't use XGL/Beryl.
[10:09] <valehru_> po0f, why not?
[10:10] <acts_as_idiot> mneptok: Thanks. And so later when I'm using Xen, can I stil use the same LVM primary for it...I suppose why not
[10:10] <po0f> valehru_: Because of what's happening to you right now.
[10:10] <valehru_> ardchoille42, I don't want to upgrade to edgy...I'm still on dapper.
[10:10] <y0hm> lol
[10:10] <mneptok> acts_as_idiot: sure
[10:10] <adammck> hello. i don't have qmail or clam installed, but they're both listed in 'ps -aux' - how is that possible? (my ps -aux output: http://rafb.net/p/krA8Te21.html)
[10:10] <valehru_> po0f, well I don't have beryl installed
[10:10] <ardchoille42> valehru, That won't upgrade you to Edgy, but it will update your kernel
[10:10] <acts_as_idiot> Thanks everyone
[10:11] <adammck> courier is in there too. i don't have that installed either :S
[10:11] <frafra> same problem
[10:11] <mneptok> adammck: who are those numeric users?
[10:11] <mneptok> (107, etc)
[10:12] <y0hm> po0f , could you perhaps clarify the confusion with the SMP-kernel( thread-spy ) security issue , is it safe nowadays to use the SMP kernel ?
[10:12] <mneptok> adammck: and you have a server services running, how did you install those?
[10:12] <adammck> mneptok: i have no idea. they're not in my /etc/passwd
[10:12] <y0hm> *my confusion that is ;)
[10:12] <soundray> adammck: you must be looking at the ps aux of another machine
[10:12] <cokeslut> sup?
[10:13] <frafra> my webcam still not working
[10:13] <po0f> y0hm: I have no clue what you are talking about.
[10:13] <valehru_> po0f, I'm pretty sure that xgl and beryl are not installed on this system...the repositories are included in apt...but are not being used.....
[10:13] <YoussefAssad> hi
[10:13] <YoussefAssad> I've got a hand-compiled lib in /usr/local/lib/ but the app is using the one in /usr/lib/. Any ideas on how Ican force the app to use the version in /usr/local/lib/?
[10:13] <soundray> !webcam | frafra
[10:13] <ubotu> frafra: webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:13] <adammck> mneptok: this is on a dedicated server that i just rented from 123reg.co.uk - i was expecting a bare ubuntu server install, but i found this monstrosity
[10:13] <persen> I've installed the msttcorefonts but dont think they are used in X (the fonts doesnt appear to have changed).
[10:13] <persen> How do i specify what fonts to be loaded in X?
[10:13] <po0f> valehru_: They are included when calculating dependencies for other packages though, try commenting them out and run `sudo aptitude update`.
[10:13] <mneptok> adammck: i'd contact them
[10:13] <Tremitos> don't know
[10:13] <valehru_> po0f, ok...will do.
[10:13] <persen> !fonts
[10:13] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[10:14] <mneptok> adammck: aptitude show qmail
[10:14] <kraut> moin
[10:14] <soundray> !de
[10:14] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:14] <soundray> :)
[10:14] <mneptok> YoussefAssad: mv the old lib aside, and then symlink the new lib to the old?
[10:14] <adammck> mneptok: it says "no candidate version found for qmail"
[10:15] <adammck> mneptok: i've tried contacting them, they just say i have no support, because i asked for root access...
[10:15] <YoussefAssad> mneptok: alright, I'll try that
[10:15] <Cappy> In case anyone was wondering, I just tried to install a distro called "Ubuntu Ultimate" and while setting up the installer crashed out on me. Bah humug to it.
[10:15] <soundray> kraut: there doesn't seem to be 'pd' for Plattdeutsch
[10:15] <Asturia> any squid guru in here? Need some help with acl for squid
[10:15] <kraut> soundray: 'moin' isn't plattdeutsch ;)
[10:16] <y0hm> po0f a sec i'm looking 4 the URL
[10:16] <po0f> YoussefAssad: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib my_binary
[10:17] <soundray> kraut: I beg to differ. Shall we discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[10:17] <graniti> hi. is there a command (or a program to download) which launchs a popup with a given msg?
[10:17] <po0f> graniti: zenity
[10:17] <Tajmox> Hey in vmware, how do I access my Linux files?   or send a file I have onto the virtual disk?
[10:17] <ardchoille42> graniti, I use Zenity for that, it's nice.  man zenity
[10:17] <y0hm> poOf , Actually i was reffering to Hyperthreading rather then to the SMP -kernel , ring a bell ?
[10:17] <kvossen> Anyone else having problems with gnome-session segfaulting?
[10:18] <Jowi> graniti, you also have gmessage
[10:18] <kraut> soundray: no time, sorry
[10:18] <y0hm> my bad !
[10:18] <graniti> po0f: ardchoille42 Jowi: thnkas
[10:18] <soundray> kvossen: are you on feisty?
[10:18] <Asturia> anyone?
[10:18] <kvossen> soundray: edgy
[10:18] <frafra> ubuntu recognize my webcam, and loads the modules, but every program say that it can't use /dev/video0...
[10:19] <po0f> y0hm: No...  besides, it doesn't concern me; I don't own a HT P4 or a dual core system.
[10:19] <kvossen> soundray: tried reinstalling gnome, gnome-session, but it doesn't help
[10:19] <mitcheloc> hello fello ubuntuites :), i'm using pyramid linux (a supposed ubuntu variant) and i'm having trouble with the usb driver, "cat /proc/bus/usb/devices > devices" is giving me a "No such file or directory" error
[10:20] <y0hm> http://www.daemonology.net/hyperthreading-considered-harmful/
[10:20] <incorrect> how can i remove kde?  yesterday i did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop,  no i regret it
[10:20] <y0hm> apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop ?
[10:20] <ardchoille42> incorrect, You on Edgy?
[10:20] <hagabaka> "foo considered bar" titles are so popular