[05:59] <Kilos> morning all and sundry
[06:10] <Kilos> eish Symmetria is all that mail about not wanting to go ipv6 or what?
[06:36] <Kilos> morning Spaceghost
[06:36] <Kilos> booo
[06:36] <Spaceghost> Hello Kilos.
[06:37] <Spaceghost> I am not going to say good morning because it is not here yet :P.
[06:37] <Kilos> hahaha where are you?
[06:37] <Spaceghost> Uruguay.
[06:38] <Kilos> whew
[06:39] <Symmetria> morning
[06:39] <Symmetria> lol kilos you been reading the mails on that mailnig list?
[06:39] <Symmetria> some of them are entertaining ;p
[06:39] <Kilos> ya but takes forever man
[06:40] <Kilos> is it all about not wanting to go ipv6 or is there more involved
[06:40] <Kilos> like costs
[06:43] <Symmetria> kilos heh, there is a lot more to it than that
[06:43] <Symmetria> firstly, afrinic hasnt run their financial models and doesnt know how to so they are being idiots
[06:44] <Symmetria> secondly, there are the geo-political and racial issues
[06:44] <Symmetria> thirdly, there is the issue that the proposal originated out of south africa and we already have space, and there are idiots who believe that south africa will end up with even more ipv4 space while the rest of the continent gets screwed, which is completely inaccurate since its the rest of the continent not south africa that will get the space under this
[06:45] <Symmetria> and forth, there are certain forces in AfriNIC who are hell bent on opposing anything I specifically do or stand for, because they arent happy with the fact that I called them out on their shocking non-existant corporate governance issues
[06:45] <Symmetria> so you're dealing with a very political issue :)
[06:45] <Kilos> whew
[06:45] <Kilos> good luck
[06:46] <Symmetria> lol, afrinic is always deeply political, there are 2 many factions, and its very? african? in that sense, the west africans and the east africans and the southern africans and the northern africans do not exactly see eye to eye
[06:46] <Symmetria> they all want total control
[06:47] <Symmetria> then add to the fact that the anglosaxan countries and the frankaphone countries never agree on anything just like the french and the english in the UK dont agree on anything
[06:47] <Kilos> typical
[06:47] <Symmetria> heh the language and culture divide between english and french in africa is vast and almost unbridgeable
[06:48] <Kilos> power gone wbb
[06:59] <HawkiesZA> Morning!
[07:02]  * HawkiesZA basks in the sound of crickets
[07:05] <magespawn> good morning all
[07:06] <Symmetria> morning
[07:07] <magespawn> afrinic almost sounds more trouble than its worth
[07:08] <Symmetria> magespawn sadly, without a functional afrinic, the internet in africa stops growing period
[07:08] <Symmetria> as completely broken as they are, they are still a critical part of the internet infrastructure in africa
[07:08] <Symmetria> and if they get any more broken, every single person using the internet will feel the effects
[07:08] <Symmetria> so *someone* has to try and stop the rot
[07:09] <magespawn> from the discussion above, it is amazing any6hing has been done at all
[07:11] <Kilos> hi superfly
[07:11] <Kilos> HawkiesZA, too
[07:11] <magespawn> morning Kilos
[07:11] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[07:11] <HawkiesZA> Morning Kilos
[07:14] <Kilos> hi Vince-0
[07:16] <magespawn> hi Vince-0 HawkiesZA
[07:16] <HawkiesZA> Howdy magespawn
[07:19] <Vince-0> haai
[07:20] <Vince-0> another kak day in paradise
[07:21] <Kilos> haha new word for me undecillion
[07:21] <Kilos> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/51895-ipv6-is-sa-ready.html
[07:21] <Kilos> 36 zeroes
[07:25] <Kilos> hey magespawn http://test-ipv6.co.za/
[07:25] <magespawn> ty Kilos
[07:25] <Kilos> seems like my setup can do it
[07:33] <Kilos> so does one leave things as they are atm or follow the links to enable ipv6?
[07:34] <Kilos> http://codeghar.wordpress.com/2012/08/03/ipv6-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[07:35] <magespawn> i think is largely a top down thing Kilos, it won't help you to do it if your isp is not
[07:35] <Kilos> i see that oke uses vim. why not gedit or nano?
[07:35] <Kilos> oh ya 8ta is ipv4 if im not misteken
[07:36] <magespawn> each to his own Kilos some say vim is more powerful
[07:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> none of our ISPs are providing ipv6 yet
[07:36] <magespawn> good day ThatGraemeGuy
[07:37] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[07:37] <magespawn> apprently IS has the capacity
[07:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning :)
[07:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm sure they all have equipment thats capable
[07:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> most people at home don't
[07:38] <superfly> morning ThatGraemeGuy
[07:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'ello
[07:38] <superfly> yes, Telkom's current system (IPC or whatever it's called) doesn't support IPv6
[07:38] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, what equipment
[07:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: nano is the beetle to vim's Ferrari ;-)
[07:38] <Kilos> oh my
[07:38] <superfly> that's one of the reasons that ISP's are pushing to move to BitConnect (or whatever it's called)
[07:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: adsl routers for one
[07:38] <Kilos> i like nano
[07:40] <Kilos> i dont have a router, i wonder if my 3g modem can do it
[07:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> doesn't really matter, if the isp isn't doing it, then it makes no difference
[07:41] <Kilos> oh so there is no way of checking even
[07:41] <Kilos> hmm...
[07:43] <Vince-0> So I'm legally spoofing international number presentation to ZA callee's today -
[07:43] <Vince-0> wtf
[07:59] <Kilos> Vince-0, whats spoofing?
[08:01] <Kilos> Maaz, define spoofing
[08:01] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't know about spoofing. Maybe you meant Spooling?
[08:01] <Kilos> QA, define spoofing
[08:01] <QA> Kilos: 45 Moby Thesaurus words for "spoofing": bamboozlement, befooling, bluffing, calculated deception, circumvention, conning, deceiving, deception, deceptiveness, defrauding, delusion, delusiveness, dupery, enmeshment, ensnarement, entanglement, entrapment, fallaciousness, fallacy, falseness, flimflam, flimflammery, fond illusion, fooling, hallucination, hoodwinking, illusion, kidding, mirage, outwitting, overreaching, phantasm, putting on, …
[08:08] <Kilos> hi psyatw
[08:22] <Vince-0> bamboozlement indeed
[08:22] <Kilos> hehe
[08:22] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:22] <Vince-0> calculated deception even
[08:22] <psyatw> hi Vince-0
[08:22] <Vince-0> ha
[08:22] <Vince-0> hay
[08:29] <magespawn> Kilos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoof
[08:29] <Kilos> ty magespawn
[08:30] <Kilos> oh my naughty Vince-0
[08:32] <Vince-0> I'm told its legitimate - just doing my job
[08:32] <Kilos> hehe
[08:47] <magespawn> i have always thought there is a difference between legit and legal
[08:56] <Vince-0> there is!
[09:02] <magespawn> Maaz tell trender http://mashable.com/2013/06/26/better-wifi-signal/
[09:02] <Maaz> magespawn: Okay, I'll tell trender on freenode
[09:13] <Kilos> yo smile4ever you early
[09:13] <smile4ever> Yes I am Kilos :D
[09:13] <smile4ever> Working on Wikipedia :D
[09:14] <Kilos> good man
[09:14] <smile4ever> I'm updating version numbers
[09:14] <smile4ever> and fixing some small and big problems
[09:15] <Kilos> keep up the good work
[09:15] <smile4ever> :)
[09:15] <smile4ever> What are you doing?
[09:16] <Kilos> very little
[09:17] <Kilos> hi charl
[09:17] <charl> hi
[09:17] <charl> hi Kilos
[09:17] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[09:17]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[09:18] <Kilos> hi henkj you been quiet
[09:19] <smile4ever> Kilos: you don't have a router, have you?
[09:20] <Kilos> nope 3g modem
[09:20] <charl> hi smile4ever
[09:20] <charl> how's it going
[09:21] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[09:23] <smile4ever> Kilos: I see :) I have some trouble with my router
[09:23] <smile4ever> Wifi gets disabled randomly
[09:23] <Kilos> eish
[09:23] <henkj> hi Kilos
[09:23] <Kilos> only wifi i have is the free 10g data they gave me
[09:23] <Kilos> hehe
[09:24] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[09:24] <Maaz> charl: Sure
[09:26] <charl> wow it turned into a busy thread on the afrinic list
[09:26] <Kilos> yeah too many mails
[09:27] <Kilos> i wish they would hurry and dewcide on something so i can unsubscribe
[09:30] <Kilos> decide
[09:35] <charl> lol
[09:44] <charl> smile4ever: how are they doing with ipv6 rollout in belgium? in the netherlands it's going very slowly
[09:45] <smile4ever> charl: I can't see any progress
[09:45] <smile4ever> Still using IPv4
[09:46] <charl> at work i have native ipv6 but at home nothing
[09:46] <charl> unless i tunnel of course but i'm on ziggo
[09:48] <charl> i am growing increasingly dissatistfied with ziggo's high prices, they need to increase the bandwidth limit on their standard package
[09:50] <charl> ah i see Symmetria just posted a nice summary
[09:54] <Symmetria> charl lol, you got a response from Nii but I would suggest you dont respond
[09:55] <charl> lemme see...
[09:55] <charl> sorry haven't followed properly
[09:56] <charl> oh that one, yeah, i didn't understand the response
[09:56] <charl> what did population have to do with it
[10:00] <Symmetria> heh, he's arguing about the multipler that is applied to staff and students
[10:00] <Symmetria> and doesnt believe its a good justification for assigning space
[10:00] <Symmetria> he's wrong ;p ignore him
[10:00] <charl> ok :)
[10:24] <Kilos> eish another 6 months of all these mails
[10:42] <charl> the idea of making money from selling IP addresses concerns me
[10:42] <charl> IP addresses are supposed to be a public resource, not to be sold and used as a source of money
[10:42] <charl> they should be handed out on basis of merit
[10:43] <charl> not on the basis of who can afford them
[10:43] <charl> but ok, that's an entirely separate discussion
[10:46] <charl> hi trender
[10:46]  * trender slaps Kilos around a bit with a large trout
[10:46] <charl> seriously, a trout slap?
[10:46] <trender> yo charl howdee
[10:46] <trender> it was a slip of the hand man
[10:46] <charl> you get banned instantly on some channels for that
[10:46] <charl> lol
[10:46] <trender> hehe
[10:46] <charl> disable that mirc alias :P
[10:47] <Kilos> hmm...
[10:47] <trender> clicked miss
[10:48] <trender> so whats hapnin man
[10:48] <Kilos> no changes
[10:48] <trender> i see telkoms booting me
[10:49] <Kilos> hehe
[10:49] <charl> everyone is having trouble with hellkom at the moment
[10:49] <charl> i have family in s.africa that has the same problem
[10:49] <trender> its rain this end so i hope thats not getting in the wiring
[10:49] <trender> at the moment as in this very instant ??
[10:50] <trender> last 20 mins was down
[10:50] <charl> dunno they have been messing around for months now
[10:50] <charl> since that seacom crash everything has been a mess
[10:50] <charl> bah
[10:51]  * trender lights cigar...blerg!! out of smokes
[10:51] <Kilos> since before it actually
[10:52] <Kilos> but 8ta bearable at least
[10:52] <Kilos> was bad but theyve jacked it up a bit
[10:52] <trender> charl know anything about wifi yagi's ?
[10:53] <charl> nope
[10:53] <charl> never did much with wifi
[10:53] <charl> more interested in waifu :P
[10:54] <trender> i was wondering if i need to worry about impedance matching or just slap a yagi on the end of my wifi card and play
[10:57] <trender> is that some kind of sushi ?
[10:57] <trender> *coff*
[10:57] <charl> lol
[11:12] <tonberryE352> a yagi for wifi?
[11:32] <Kerbero> trender, the yagi's for wifi normally has less gain than grids
[11:32] <Kerbero> if you bought an antenna the matching should have already been taken care of by the manufacturer
[11:33] <magespawn> okay well that was fun
[11:33] <magespawn> Maaz coffee please
[11:33] <Maaz> magespawn: There isn't a pot on
[11:34] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[11:34]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[11:34] <charl> Maaz: you're not a good maid
[11:34] <Maaz> charl: Huh?
[11:34] <charl> wb magespawn
[11:35] <charl> there is a pot on now
[11:36] <magespawn> ty charl
[11:36] <magespawn> Maaz coffee please
[11:36] <magespawn> or not
[11:36] <magespawn>  lol
[11:36] <Maaz> magespawn: Done
[11:37] <charl> Maaz: where did you get your name from
[11:37] <Maaz> charl: Sorry...
[11:37] <charl> sounds a bit like the river
[11:38] <charl> except that ends with an s
[11:38] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and magespawn!
[11:38] <trender> sounds a bit like an african drink that puts hair on yer chest
[11:38] <Kilos> hehe
[11:38] <charl> the maas river has extremely dirty water in it
[11:38] <charl> this filthy muddy water
[11:39] <trender> maas makes perfect cottage cheese at an exceptional price
[11:40] <trender> kerbero
[11:40] <magespawn> Maaz coffee
[11:40] <Maaz> magespawn: coffee is liquid code
[11:41] <trender> brb
[11:51] <N8Wulf> good afternoon
[11:51] <superfly> hi N8Wulf
[11:51] <N8Wulf> Any of you Gents have ideas as to how I can start the DE manually on a Server if and when I need it?
[11:53] <superfly> startx
[11:53] <superfly> but I don't see why you'd want a GUI on a server
[12:01] <N8Wulf> long story...
[12:01] <N8Wulf> I installed LXDE... but obviously it automatically starts on BootUp
[12:02] <magespawn> is freenode underattack again?
[12:02] <magespawn> Maaz hello
[12:02] <Maaz> Sup magespawn
[12:03] <charl> magespawn: why?
[12:03] <magespawn> well at least that got through
[12:03] <Kilos> hehe wassup magespawn
[12:04] <magespawn> adsl just went haywire
[12:04] <Kilos> eish
[12:06] <magespawn> Maaz coffee please
[12:06] <Maaz> magespawn: There isn't a pot on
[12:07] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[12:07]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[12:07] <Kilos> im watching the falling skies
[12:07] <Kilos> so miss lots here
[12:09] <Kilos> oh my
[12:09] <Kilos> mage seems to have probs
[12:10] <Kilos> wb magespawn
[12:11] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[12:11] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[12:11] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[12:13] <magespawn> bbl
[12:15] <Squirm> woop
[12:15] <Squirm> just bought an autopilot for the quadcopter
[12:16] <tonberryE352> now mount a wifi webcam on it
[12:16] <tonberryE352> security bot
[12:16] <Squirm> indeed
[12:16] <Squirm> probably mount my Pi
[12:17] <Squirm> it's not actually my quadcopter. the guy who owns it has bought a GoPro Hero3 Black - built in WiFi
[12:18] <Squirm> but the autopilot I can use for my plane
[12:18] <tonberryE352> nice
[12:18] <Squirm> and it's OpenSource :P
[12:49] <trender> kerbero dude you around ??
[12:51] <Kerbero> sort of
[12:51] <trender> whats the news man ?
[12:51] <trender> kilos said you had something ?
[12:52] <trender> where you gonna shed some light on wifi ?
 trender, the yagi's for wifi normally has less gain than grids
 if you bought an antenna the matching should have already been taken care of by the manufacturer
[12:53] <Kilos> thats what he said
[12:53] <Kilos> making me work man
[12:53] <trender> ok cool thats good news as i expected
[12:54] <Kilos> you 2 eyed peeps scroll back easier
[12:54] <trender> nah i got people on my case all day man
[12:54] <Kilos> but you all lazy
[12:54] <Kilos> lol
[12:54] <Kilos> just ragging
[12:55] <trender>  im gonna dissapear for half an hour
[12:55] <trender> need to run while the wheather permits
[13:02] <magedroid> afternoon aga8n
[13:02] <magedroid> again even
[13:03] <Kilos> eish you struggling magedroid ?
[13:03] <magedroid> looks like something happening on the adsl
[13:14] <magedroid> yup mweb international browsing is down dut to 'multiple link failures'
[13:38] <Kilos> oh my
[13:41] <magedroid> and if it is multiple link failures then other isp's are also going to be affected
[13:43] <Kilos> ai!
[13:49] <magedroid> ai is right, some ship were it shouldn't be or something
[13:57] <Kilos> yeah them undersea fibres
[13:59] <Squirm> I'm excited now
[13:59] <Vince-0> I switched to OpenWeb from MWeb and never looked back - MWeb even called me to try change my mind
[13:59] <Vince-0> got Axxess DSL at work with no problems
[13:59] <Squirm> except I have to keep my excitement subdued for another ~3weeks
[13:59] <Squirm> :/
[14:12] <magedroid> Vince-0 this is the only problem i have had with mweb, all the other services run great
[14:12] <magedroid> how does OpenWeb compare on price?
[14:13] <Vince-0> I got their silver uncapped 4mbit on special at the time (with two conncurrent logins) at about R80 cheaper than MWeb
[14:14] <Vince-0> check their site for current "silver" grade pricing
[14:15] <Vince-0> their 4mb is now R599 - bit more than MWeb but it's semi-unshaped
[14:15] <Vince-0> so depends on your requirements
[14:17] <magedroid> not even sure if my exchange will do 4mb, will check it out, ty
[14:17] <Vince-0> openwebs got an "ivory" special on 4mbit now for R382
[14:17] <Vince-0> that's unshaped after hours
[14:19] <magedroid> is that line and usage inclusive?
[14:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> i don't think openweb do lines
[14:22] <magedroid> i will check it out
[14:23] <Kilos> magedroid, fonr them so long and complain man
[14:23] <Kilos> fone
[14:24] <Vince-0> magedroid, that's ISP account only - didn't check their bundles
[14:32] <magedroid> Kilos it is home time, later all
[14:32] <Kilos> later magedroid
[14:32] <trender> yo kilos
[14:33] <Kilos> yo trender
[14:33] <trender> can you see me ahoy!
[14:33] <Kilos> yes
[14:33] <Kilos> you also having probs
[14:33] <trender> check the other box man
[14:33] <trender> no im done
[14:34] <trender> i have to fix vista now over the phone
[14:34] <Kilos> lol
[14:34] <trender> i rather just sell a new machine outright
[14:34] <trender> sorry sir you need a new machine vista is broken
[14:35] <trender> ou check the chat window
[14:36] <Kilos> best cure for vista is to format and install ubuntu
[14:36] <trender> well win7 actually
[14:36] <trender> nobody wants ths the learning curve
[14:36] <trender> nobody wants the the learning curve
[14:36] <Kilos> ill teach you
[14:36] <Kilos> hehe
[14:38] <trender> people need to work man
[14:41] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:03] <trender> maaz: ping
[15:03] <Maaz> trender: pong
[16:08] <Langjan> Hi Kilos
[16:08] <Kilos> hi there Langjan howsit
[16:08] <Kilos> oom langjan
[16:09] <Langjan> Goed dankie seuntjie
[16:09] <Langjan> en met jou
[16:09] <Kilos> hehe
[16:09] <Kilos> wek gaan maar nog aan dankie
[16:09] <Kilos> ek
[16:09] <smile4ever> :D
[16:09] <smile4ever> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciaal:Bijdragen/SmileBot
[16:10] <smile4ever> Fully automatic :)
[16:10] <Kilos> kry net koud hier bo
[16:10] <smile4ever> Kilos: hug! :)
[16:10] <Kilos> hi smai
[16:10] <Kilos> smile4ever,
[16:10] <Langjan> mooi so, hier ook voor die wind, lekker warm vandag op Warmbad
[16:11] <smile4ever> Langjan: hoe gaan dit met jou? :p
[16:11] <Kilos> het jy al jou ubuntu probleme uitgesorteer oom Langjan
[16:12] <Langjan> Min of meer dankie kilos, ek loop nou lekker op 12.04 maar my kameratjie werk nog steeds nie
[16:12] <Kilos> camera vit skype?
[16:12] <Kilos> ek is ook op 12.04
[16:12] <Kilos> baie stabiel
[16:12] <Kilos> vir
[16:12] <Langjan> Hi smile4ever, dit gaan goed dankie en met jou?
[16:13] <Langjan> Ja die kamera werk op cheese maar nie op skype nie
[16:13] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn
[16:14] <Kilos> i wonder what the webcam can be with skype
[16:14] <Langjan> Laas toe ek op 12.04 was het die stelsel hom outomaties opgetel...
[16:14] <Kilos> i dont even know who ask
[16:14] <Kilos> waar plug jy die ding in?
[16:14] <Kilos> usb?
[16:15] <Langjan> dis nie die ergste nie, ek oorleef
[16:15] <Langjan> hy het 'n ronde proppie
[16:15] <Kilos> daar moet n oplossing wees
[16:15] <Kilos> waar prop die ronde proppie in?
[16:15] <nlsthzn> alo uncle Kilos and all...
[16:16] <Kilos> ek weet niks van die goed nie
[16:16] <Langjan> nee ek lieg, dis 'n usb
[16:16] <Kilos> en as jy dit in n ander gat sit
[16:16] <Langjan> jammer, het gou weer gekyk, het al vergeet jy weet mos die oumens siekte
[16:16] <Kilos> lol
[16:17] <Langjan> wel as hy op cheese werk sal die gat seker reg wes?
[16:17] <Langjan> wees
[16:17] <Kilos> het jy al skype afgehaal en terug gest
[16:18] <Kilos> nlsthzn, what in the skype install makes it see the webcam
[16:18] <Langjan> ek glo nie, nie op die huidige os nie
[16:18] <nlsthzn> dunno, never used Skype... but if the webcam works in Cheese it means it *should* work with any app (the drivers are available and working)
[16:18] <Kilos> i dunno who skypes here with ubuntu
[16:19] <Kilos> maybe try sudo aptitude reinstall skype oom Langjan
[16:19] <Langjan> as i said, the previous 12.04 install picked it up automatically
[16:19]  * nlsthzn only installed Ubuntu yet again this morning so will have to go and play around with Skype and webcams to know (and that only going to happen in two days when I stop working night shift)
[16:19] <Kilos> you have aptitude installed hey
[16:20] <Langjan> ok lets do it
[16:21] <Langjan> it says aptitude command not found
[16:21] <Kilos> have you installed aptitude
[16:22] <Kilos> sudo apt-get install aptitude
[16:22] <Langjan> OK will do thks
[16:23] <Kilos> have the webcam in i think
[16:23] <Langjan> installing aptitude
[16:23] <Kilos> then sudo apt-get update
[16:24] <Langjan> done
[16:24] <Kilos> sudo aptitude reinstall skype skype-bin
[16:25] <superfly> skype works fine on my netbook
[16:25] <Langjan> ok
[16:25] <superfly> using the built-in webcam
[16:25] <Kilos> this is weird superfly he says it worked before
[16:25] <superfly> Kilos: aptitude is currently broken on 64-bit systems, I recommend sticking to apt-get for the moment
[16:26] <Kilos> he went 13.04 i think then installed 12.04 again
[16:26]  * superfly goes for supper
[16:26] <Kilos> ty superfly
[16:26] <Kilos> Langjan, you on 64bit?
[16:26] <Langjan> no 32
[16:26] <Kilos> good
[16:27] <Kilos> you have done your upgrades Langjan ?
[16:27] <Langjan> Went to 13.10 and then back to 12.04
[16:27] <Langjan> yes kilos
[16:27] <Kilos> well check that anyway
[16:28] <Kilos> aptitude works much better for me
[16:28] <Langjan> do you mean run sudo apt-get upgrade?
[16:28] <Kilos> with aptitude not apt-get
[16:28] <Symmetria> :) I just got myself a gopro hero 3 black for when I go snorkelling in kenya week after next
[16:29] <Langjan> so do I now always have to run aptitude instead of sudo apt-get?
[16:29] <Kilos> Symmetria, sort them out so i can stop getting all those mails
[16:30] <Kilos> no its by choice Langjan
[16:30] <Kilos> but i find aptitude does more
[16:30] <Kilos> and explains things better for me
[16:31] <Kilos> like it gives choices on fixing things
[16:31] <Kilos> and removes what isnt necessary
[16:31] <nlsthzn> Symmetria:gopro's are awesome
[16:31] <nlsthzn> got my wife the gopro2 then a week after the 3 announced >.<
[16:31] <nlsthzn> she uses it when diving :)_
[16:32] <Symmetria> kilos lol, give it a week and a half and in the mean time you can write a rule that just bins it :)
[16:32] <Langjan> ok its installed and reinstalled skype but nothing yet, gotta go for now, will chat again later kilos, many thanks
[16:32] <Symmetria> yeah I got the hero 3 black
[16:32] <Kilos> ok Langjan
[16:33] <Kilos> na Symmetria i read some then delete anyway
[16:33] <Symmetria> heh finding the discussions interesting?
[16:33] <Symmetria> lol I havent been pulling my punches on that list
[16:34] <Symmetria> Badru is an idiot, sadly he's also the chairman of the board
[16:34] <Kilos> maddening
[16:34] <Symmetria> and I have bitchslapped him 6 ways from sunday for being a moron
[16:34] <Symmetria> lol they dont know how to handle me in afrinic, because culturally, in africa, people dont tend to stand up and say things bluntly
[16:35] <Symmetria> its always with loads of subtely and implications and innuendo
[16:35] <Symmetria> where as me, I say it like i see it, and if you're being a moron, well, I aint gonna leave doubts that I think that
[16:35] <Kilos> hehe
[16:36] <nlsthzn> which is OK and all but sometimes you can get more done with a little it of tact ;)
[16:36] <Symmetria> kilos lol, look at what I said to badru earlier on skype when he accused me of personally attacking him and his integrity
[16:36] <Symmetria> [2013/06/27 5:42:08 PM] Badru Ntege: i think we do not seem to understand each other
[16:36] <Symmetria> [2013/06/27 5:42:41 PM] Andrew Alston: you're damn right if you think I attacked you personally on that list or questioned your integrity, believe me badru, if I wished to do either, it would be *crystal* clear
[16:36] <Symmetria> [2013/06/27 5:43:05 PM] Andrew Alston: one thing you should know about me, I don't mince my words, and I stand by what I say, and if anything looks subtle, you're probably reading it wrong
[16:36] <Symmetria> [2013/06/27 5:43:43 PM] Andrew Alston: in the same way I stand by every word and every question I raised with Maye Diop
[16:37] <Symmetria> nlshzn trust me, that afrinic debate is long past the point where tact is going to help
[16:38] <nlsthzn> k :)
[16:39] <Symmetria> lol I think the time for tact ended when I openly questioned someone if the reason they were being obstructive was because of racial or geo-political bias ;p
[16:39] <Kilos> is that all about going to ipv6
[16:39] <Symmetria> I think at that point, it was like a grenade going off, the one hard and fast rule in africa is, you dont even GO there, no matter how true it is, its just 2 sensitive
[16:39] <Symmetria> ;p
[16:39] <Symmetria> kilos lol, its about the remaining ipv4 space and going to ipv6
[16:40] <Kilos> is ipv4 gonna drop away completely
[16:41] <Kilos> or will the space made spare by peeps going ipv6 then be made spare
[16:41] <Symmetria> heh nah v4 is gonna disappear in the next coupla years, its just a question of timing
[16:41] <Kilos> ah
[16:42] <Kilos> so its a matter og moving ahead or losing out completely
[16:42] <Kilos> of
[16:43] <Kilos> then crying about it again
[16:43] <Symmetria> basically yes
[16:44] <Kilos> i wonder what za is planning
[16:51] <Kilos> wb nlsthzn  with you hand crafted client
[16:52] <Kilos> you should add nlsthznAW when at work so we know
[16:52] <nlsthzn_slave> like that?
[16:52] <Kilos> hahaha
[16:52] <Kilos> you at work now??
[16:53] <nlsthzn_slave> yup
[16:54] <nlsthzn_slave> two more nights :'(|
[16:54] <Kilos> ok slave we gotcha
[16:58] <nlsthzn_slave> :p
[16:58] <Kilos> hahaha
[16:59] <Kilos> dont chnage it too much man then ill end up welcoming you everytime
[16:59] <Kilos> change
[16:59] <Kilos> like a noob
[17:00] <wage_slave_bob> :)
[17:06] <Symmetria> hrm does anyone know of any very good perl programmers who contract out
[17:06] <Symmetria> and are looking for a coupla weeks work
[17:07] <Kilos> hi psychicist
[17:10] <psychicist> hi Kilos
[17:10] <psychicist> hi Symmetria
[17:11] <Symmetria> lo psychicist
[17:21] <trender> yo
[17:21] <trender> anybody home ?
[17:21] <Kilos> yo
[17:24] <trender> wating...
[17:24] <trender> waiting..
[17:34] <Vince-0> haai
[17:34] <Kilos> hi Vince-0
[17:35] <Vince-0> notes for tonight : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1phcVdIqPBvN1xIhBGATNs8UXJBJORYhTsQeRQWlN0_E/edit#
[17:35] <Vince-0> brb
[18:03] <Kilos> inetpro, is jy darem tuis?
[18:24] <Kilos> hehe
[18:38] <smile4ever> bye
[18:38] <psychicist> bye smile4ever
[18:38] <smile4ever> slaapwel :)
[18:39] <Kilos> night smile4ever
[18:39] <Kilos> sleep tight
[18:39] <Kilos> grrr
[18:44] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight
[19:03] <not_found> http://shop-download.linupfront.de/cc/lxes-en-manual-cc.pdf
[19:43] <nlsthzn> I take it this http://linux-studies.za.net/wiki/Main_Page has died out a bit
[20:27] <Squirm> what the hell
[20:27] <Squirm> "Richard Van Rooyen grabbed a mega win on Slotomania Slot Machines."
[20:28] <Squirm> see that on my Facebook
[20:28] <Squirm> about an Hour ago
[20:29] <Squirm> ...he committed suicide 2 years ago
[20:42] <nlsthzn> :/


[04:23] <jimmyd> wiped out the the Whole kernal and lost all my stuff trying to make room oin boot holstein
[04:23] <jimmyd> so i reinstalled
[04:51] <holstein> jimmyd: ?
[04:52] <holstein> jimmyd: i, and the guides i linked suggested *not* getting rid of all the kernels
[04:52] <jimmyd> yes man what a nightmare
[04:52] <holstein> jimmyd: also, you can "Fix" it with chroot
[04:52] <holstein> jimmyd: i say, *dont* do seperate partitions..
[04:53] <jimmyd> well i thin its all gone now isnt it
[04:54] <holstein> jimmyd: i dont know what you have, but, when installing, you should see that the installer wants to put everything in one partition.. just do that
[04:56] <jimmyd> ok i installed Zubuntu the latest one through ubootin from my mac and updated it i think it erased the previous one unfortunatly
[04:57] <jimmyd> because it was there but wouldnt boot for some reason and so i booted from the usb and just reinstalled and im getting this crazy error message then it boots up anyway
[04:58] <holstein> jimmyd: cool. just let a volunteer know if you have a question
[04:58] <holstein> otherwise, i say, just go with the defaults..
[04:59] <holstein> "xubuntu" for searching, etc..
[05:00] <jimmyd> ok well thats all fine and good but im starting over again lost my spred sheet full of records luckily i do it on my other machine and on paper
[05:00] <holstein> jimmyd: you need to have backups, regardless of operating system, since *all* hard drives will fail.. and it wont the "fault" of any OS
[05:02] <holstein> jimmyd: in the future, linux *is* the kernel. you can remove it and have a booting system..
[05:02] <jimmyd> yes yes i have it on the paper tablet for that reason ive done this before and am working on improving my backup habits thank you
[05:03] <jimmyd> what do you mean by that Holstein
[05:04] <holstein> jimmyd: just what i said.. if you dont have a kernel, "linux" wont work.. you shouldnt remove "linux" from your system
[05:04] <jimmyd> thing is i like to try things and don't completly know what im doing
[05:04] <holstein> jimmyd: you really dont need to have a seperate /boot
[05:04] <jimmyd> ok
[05:06] <jimmyd> so would you be able to tell where i made my mistake and lost my "linux Kernel if i could post somthing i have here
[05:06]  * ObrienDave tip toes through the room and silently exits
[05:07] <holstein> jimmyd: you removed it
[05:08] <holstein> jimmyd: and, if you are reinstalling, or already did, then, its not big deal.. you cant "Fix" it now
[05:08] <jimmyd> pretty much accept what i have now is booting strangely
[05:08] <holstein> jimmyd: again, if you have a question, im sure a volunteer can assist
[05:08] <holstein> "my computer is booting strangely" is a statement
[05:09] <jimmyd> ok  my question can i get any of the files back
[05:10] <holstein> jimmyd: what files? the ones that were on your hard drive? that you just formatted and reinstalled over?
[05:10] <jimmyd> sure so i will try to get the propper info for the exact error message if i can reproduce it
[05:10] <holstein> *if* you ran recovery on it, then, you *might* get back what is in the empty space.. but, you could have lifted them easily off there from a live CD
[05:11] <jimmyd> ok
[05:11] <holstein> you are just thinking out of order a bit
[05:11] <holstein> you should recover the data *first*, *if* you dont have backups.. then, move to making the machine boot..
[05:11] <jimmyd> sure illtryto get straightened out
[05:12] <jimmyd> i got it to boot
[05:12] <jimmyd> im just trying to figure out how i got rid of the wrong kernels
[05:13] <holstein> jimmyd: you stated you got rid of *all* of them.. thats how. there is no "wrong" kernels.. they wont be labeled as such, or able to be found that way.. there are just newer and older ones, and the ones you dont have room for
[05:14] <jimmyd> Is there a comand line prompt i can use to find out
[05:14] <holstein> jimmyd: there *would* have been. let me get you the link i gave you before..
[05:14] <jimmyd> actualy i didnt get rid of all of them
[05:14] <holstein> jimmyd: http://askubuntu.com/questions/89710/how-do-i-free-up-more-space-in-boot
[05:15] <holstein> 00:23 < jimmyd> wiped out the the Whole kernal and lost all my stuff trying to make room oin boot holstein
[05:15] <holstein> ^ thats all im working from.. what you stated.. im not sure what you removed, or why/how
[05:15] <jimmyd> i follow the comand on the term emulator and removed all but thelast two i thought
[05:16] <holstein> you cant just copy paste them in
[05:16] <holstein> you have to look and see what you have. thats why i just gave the information, and stated that i prefered using synaptic
[05:16] <holstein> when i did this for a friend in the LUG, i ran "sudo update-grub" to see if all was well with his system, and get a list of the kernels..
[05:16] <jimmyd> so since my memory isnt that good or my typing either what do i do
[05:17] <holstein> i then just used synaptic to simply search for the ones i *specifically* wanted to remove.. one at a time
[05:17] <holstein> jimmyd: you said you have reinstalled. so, you use the new system you wrote overtop the old one you broken
[05:17] <holstein> broke*
[05:18] <jimmyd> i see i tried to take all but the last two off with the comand line then it was working until i tried to reboot and it didnt so i freaked out and reinstalled
[05:19] <jimmyd> yes that what i think i did
[05:19] <jimmyd> thats
[05:20] <holstein> jimmyd: the most *recent* 2.. or whatever, like i said, you decide. its not important how many, just that, *if* you want to free up more space in /boot, thats one way
[05:20] <jimmyd> ok isee
[05:20] <jimmyd> im old but still learning
[05:21] <holstein> jimmyd: could have been a simple grub issue.. i'll run "uname -a" and "sudo update-grub" and see that everything looks "good"
[05:25] <jimmyd> 3.16.0-31-generic #41~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 11 19:30:43 UTC 2015 i686 i686
[05:26] <jimmyd> that was the result of uname -a
[05:27] <jimmyd> do you want the result of update grub
[05:27] <holstein> jimmyd: for what, friend?
[05:28] <holstein> jimmyd: if you have wiped and reinstalled, then, just enjoy your new installation
[05:28] <holstein> jimmyd: you need not troubleshoot this anymore, and cant
[05:28] <jimmyd> ok
[05:29] <jimmyd> the thing is its still using the old name
[05:30] <holstein> jimmyd: "its" a machine.. so, it'll just be called what you call it
[05:30] <jimmyd> but i get you
[05:41] <jimmyd1> now when i boot in it says error write not supported press any key to continue can you tell me how to get it to quit telling me that everytime it boots
[05:42] <jimmyd1> holstein this is jimmyd
[05:42] <ObrienDave> external drive? ntfs?
[05:42] <holstein> or, something in the bios.. i need more informaiton.. the *exact* message
[05:42] <jimmyd1> ok ill go get it be right back i have to reboot
[05:51] <jimmyd1> Ok the exact message is error: diskfilter writes are not supported. press any key to continue..._
[08:03] <allstarsnorks2> Hi there. Why is lightdm.conf missing from Xubuntu 14.04?
[08:04] <allstarsnorks2> Is there any way I can get it back? Apparently, remastersys needs the file.
[08:14] <allstarsnorks2> anyone?
[08:19] <elfy> allstarsnorks2: lightdm changed a bit - check in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d at least
[08:20] <allstarsnorks2> does making an empty lightdm.conf file work?
[08:20] <elfy> no idea never used remastersys
[08:26] <allstarsnorks2> Alright
[08:27] <allstarsnorks2> Now, after install GTK 3.12, my icons aren't used in some parts of the Greybird theme. Why's that?
[10:18] <Interprog56> Hello
[10:18] <Interprog56> Do anyone here online?
[10:44] <rat> whelp. I expect that you guys will be hearing plenty come morning when people start reporting in about the systemd switchover...
[10:44] <rat> But it completely broke my ability to use a mouse and keyboard with 15.04 on my chromebook.
[10:45] <bazhang> !vivid | rat
[10:45] <bazhang>  /join #ubuntu+1 rat
[10:46] <rat> Done. Will see what they have to say. Meanwhile grub menu enabled so I can switch back to upstart for booting.
[10:47] <bazhang> why do you say 'tomorrow'
[10:47] <bazhang> april is the release of vivid
[10:48] <rat> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/03/06/1448247/ubuntu-to-officially-switch-to-systemd-next-monday
[10:48] <rat> The switch to systemd is what broke my xUbuntu install.
[10:49] <brainvvash> please file a bug report and let the ubuntu devs know about this issue
[10:50] <rat> Yeah. Already on it. I just wanted to let you guys have a heads up that it's already making a mess of some previously reliable installs.
[12:24] <kashel> Halli
[12:24] <kashel> Hallo
[12:27] <knome> hello
[12:27] <kashel> Do you speak russian?
[12:27] <knome> !ru | kashel
[12:28] <kashel> Ok
[12:28] <kashel> I know then chanel
[13:10] <knob> Good morning!
[13:16] <knob> Hey guys... just moved from Unity to xfce.    How do I "upgrade" XScreensaver?
[13:16] <knob> It's telling me it is out of date... what do you usually do?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> knob, xscreensaver can conflict with dmlogin manager.  therefore, recommendation from xfce is to disable it.
[13:17] <knome> knob, there is no way to easily do that; however, xubuntu doesn't use xscreensaver by default, so you don't even need it for the "xubuntu experience"
[13:19] <knob> ahh...
[13:19] <knob> Ok... so, what do you suggest?   I just found a askubuntu link, stating to remove    xscreensaver
[13:19] <knob> and tehn intall   gnome-screensaver   (this is a suggestion)
[13:19] <knob> What do you think?
[13:19] <knob> It's just that I think I have a mini-mess running right now with these screens and lock screens
[13:20] <knome> knob, if you explicitly need a screensaver...
[13:27] <cfhowlett> knob, turn of xscreensaver.
[13:28] <cfhowlett> knob, and the suggestion to use the gnome screensaver?  stupid ...
[13:31] <knob> I trully don't need a screensaver... just the "blank screen" and "lock when awake" is good.
[13:31] <knome> knob, then you can simply remove xscreensaver, it is not needed
[13:31] <knob> What do you think?  Sorry guys... I am just lost on this.         Should I uninstall xscreensaver, and install something else?   Or can I configure that blankscreen and lock somehow else?
[13:31] <knob> knome, ok... removing that guy then.
[13:32] <knome> knob, make sure you have light-locker installed
[13:32] <knome> it should pull light-locker-settings with it so you can edit the locker configuration
[13:35] <knob> Ok... running this through you guys for input:   I removed  xscreensaver.
[13:36] <knob> I then opened Light Locker Settings... it told me that my screensaver settings are managed by Xfce Power Manager
[13:36] <knob> Should I leave it that way, and then have Light Locker lock the screen ?  Or... somehow else?
[13:36] <knome> that is correct
[13:37] <knob> Ok... I *think*  we have it.
[13:37] <knome> :)
[13:38] <knob> So I have Light Locker:     Automatically lock the session:  When the screensaver is activated
[13:38] <knob> And over in Xfce Power Manager, I have "blank screen" after 5 minutes
[13:38] <knob> I think I am missing somethign
[13:38] <knome> what would it be?
[13:39] <knob> screensaver I reckon...   I don't think she sees the "blank screen" the same as screensaver active??
[13:39] <knome> it is
[13:39] <knob> Ahhh... ok!  Then.... testing it is now.
[13:39] <knob> Thank you!
[13:40] <knob> I installed Ubuntu about 7-8 months ago... all super good.  Installed in my workstation, and on my laptop.   Then, last week, I installed Xubuntu in a spare laptop I had.   Liked it so much, that in 3-4 days installed Xubuntu in main laptop, and the workstation
[13:40] <knob> I like it a LOT more than Unity
[13:40] <knob> In Unity I had installed CairoDock, and... tint2 (for the "taskbar")
[13:41] <knome> thanks for the nice feedback and glad to hear you like it :)
[13:41] <knob> And something that worked out of the box, is that in my workstation's dual monitors, then "edge" between monitors, was always Sticky.    I tried to set its width to 0... yet the cursor always got a little bit "stuck" between screens
[13:42] <kashel> I need your help with plymouth
[13:42] <knob> knome, if you are one of the people that work with Xubuntu, thank YOU guys!!     I love computers... yet, don't know how to program.   So, thanks for all the work you guys do!
[13:42] <knome> knob, i am, and others who do are in this channel too :)
[13:43] <knob> Super super!  Well, thanks everyone.    Xubuntu rocks!   Solid!
[13:43] <knob> =)
[13:43] <knome> enjoy!
[13:51] <obscurehero> hey, I've got a question about the mainline kernels
[13:52] <obscurehero> they're designated with vivid or utopic... is that because they've been tested with that release?
[13:52] <knome> yes
[13:52] <obscurehero> could I use a 3.19-vivid kernel with utopic?
[13:54] <knome> you could, but that would not be supported
[13:54] <obscurehero> are mainline kernels supported anyway?
[13:54] <obscurehero> arent' they just supposed to be for testing and whatnot?
[13:54] <knome> if mainline is something else than "default", then you'll need to ask from the people who maintain those kernels
[13:55] <obscurehero> gotcha, alright. Well thank you for your work on xubuntu and the help. :)
[13:55] <knome> you're welcome
[13:56] <kashel> I need your help with plymouth
[13:58] <knome> kashel, why don't you ask the real question to find out if somebody can help with it?
 after install driver video card plymouth doesn`t work with start system
 only text
[14:00] <knome> kashel, plymouth and proprietary nvidia drivers do not work well together
 splash not starting
[14:00] <knome> there are some workaround that i've heard works (please google them)
[14:00] <knome> there's nothing wrong with you not seeing the plymouth splash though, it's just a visual issue
 then why there is a version x64 fix working
[14:01] <knome> what "version x64 fix" ?
[14:02] <kashel> knome> i386 fix not working &
[14:02] <kashel> fix plymouth
[14:02] <knome> i have no idea why it's not working, we are not building the proprietary nvidia drivers
[14:03] <kashel> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jIegOR6A0M
[14:04] <knome> kashel, ask the video author why the i386 fix doesn't work
[14:04] <kashel> on xubuntu 14.04.1 x 64 this fix work
[14:04] <Ananaskirsche> Hello, I have a problem, is this the place to ask?
[14:04] <kashel> author notknows
[14:04] <knome> Ananaskirsche, yes
[14:05] <knome> kashel, then i guess you need to find another tutorial for it that works
[14:05] <Ananaskirsche> I need ndiswrapper to install on my xubuntu installation, but i dont know how to install
[14:05] <knome> !ndis | Ananaskirsche
[14:05] <Ananaskirsche> I already downloaded the .deb files from the ubuntu repo, but they didnt worked
[14:06] <Ananaskirsche> just type !ndis?
[14:06] <knome> Ananaskirsche, no, please follow the link that ubottu output
[14:06] <Ananaskirsche> can u give me the link? dont know what it means
[14:06] <knome> Ananaskirsche, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:07] <Ananaskirsche> I already looked my wifi chipset up there, but its not supported
[14:07] <knome> Ananaskirsche, then it's possible that your wifi card will not work with ubuntu
[14:08] <Ananaskirsche> i already installed it offline under ubuntu and manjaro and it worked
[14:08] <knome> ok, then you can follow the same tutorial you used for ubuntu for xubuntu
[14:08] <Ananaskirsche> there has to be a way because ubuntu + xfce = xubuntu
[14:08] <Ananaskirsche> but that doesnt work
[14:09] <knome> why doesn't it work? what's the error message you are getting on xubuntu you didn't get on ubuntu?
[14:09] <Ananaskirsche> my chipset is the Broadcom BCM43526
[14:10] <Ananaskirsche> when i install it with the deb files it works as long as i type "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" -> no version could be found of ndiswrapper
[14:10] <knome> so how did you install ndiswrapper on ubuntu, and how did you install it on xubuntu?
[14:10] <Ananaskirsche> I installed it on ubuntu with the make command
[14:10] <bazhang> !info ndiswrapper
[14:11] <Ananaskirsche> I used Trusty Tahir
[14:11] <knome> and in xubuntu?
[14:11] <Ananaskirsche> The version 14.04.02
[14:11] <bazhang> !info ndiswrapper trusty
[14:11] <Ananaskirsche> I installed it with make and so on on ubuntu
[14:11] <Ananaskirsche> it worked
[14:11] <knome> Ananaskirsche, ...and how did you install it on xubuntu?
[14:12] <bazhang> you wouldn't modprobe ndiswrapper
[14:12] <Ananaskirsche> tried it with the .deb files and the make command
[14:12] <knome> Ananaskirsche, without knowing the exact steps you did on ubuntu, i suspect this is where you're going off rails and why it isn't working
[14:13] <Ananaskirsche> if you wait a minute i will give you the tutorial that worked for me under ubuntu
[14:13] <Ananaskirsche> http://askubuntu.com/questions/460277/how-to-get-netgear-a6200-to-work-on-14-04
[14:14] <knome> Ananaskirsche, i don't need it; you will need to follow the same tutorial on xubuntu
[14:14] <Ananaskirsche> i did, but it doesn't work
[14:14] <Ananaskirsche> normally you just do "apt-get install ndiswrapper"
[14:15] <Ananaskirsche> but because Im not online I downloaded the tar.gz file
[14:15] <Ananaskirsche> unzipped it and did following commands
[14:15] <Ananaskirsche> "make"
[14:15] <Ananaskirsche> "make instaöö"
[14:15] <Ananaskirsche> *"make install"
[14:15] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, there is not an ndiswrapper to apt-get
[14:15] <Ananaskirsche> ?
[14:16] <Ananaskirsche> i know what u mean
 normally you just do "apt-get install ndiswrapper"
[14:16] <bazhang> no such package
[14:16] <Ananaskirsche> sry it was ndisgtk
[14:16] <Ananaskirsche> or ndiswrapper-common
[14:17] <bazhang> what is the make and etc for
[14:17] <Ananaskirsche> dont know, in the installation instruction was written do "make"
[14:18] <bazhang> you need to know that
[14:18] <knome> Ananaskirsche, do you know what you are doig or blindly following a tutorial?
[14:18] <knome> *doing
[14:18] <Ananaskirsche> no, but i oftenly heared that you install tar.gz files with make
[14:18] <knome> Ananaskirsche, you are sailing on dangerous waters.
[14:18] <Ananaskirsche> I know
[14:19] <bazhang> thats not answering any of our questions either
[14:19] <Ananaskirsche> I'm new to linux and i thought xubuntu is the same as ubuntu so i could use it too
[14:20] <bazhang> it is
[14:20] <bazhang> what you are saying wont work there either
[14:20] <Ananaskirsche> but why it doesnt work?
[14:20] <Ananaskirsche> the installation doesnt work
[14:20] <bazhang> of what exactly
[14:20] <cfhowlett> Ananaskirsche, did you (1) verify your .iso and (2) verify your boot USB/DVD?
[14:20] <Ananaskirsche> I've 2 ways to install it offline: with the deb-files or with the tar.gz package
[14:21] <cfhowlett> Ananaskirsche, did you (1) verify your .iso and (2) verify your boot USB/DVD?
[14:21] <Ananaskirsche> yes I did. I used sha1 for downloading and for burning i used the oprion to test the disk
[14:22] <Ananaskirsche> @bazhang both doesnt work
[14:22] <knome> cfhowlett, i'm fairly certain that's unrelated
[14:22] <knome> cfhowlett, ndiswrapper brings enough problems on its own...
[14:23] <knome> Ananaskirsche, i thought you just said it worked on ubuntu
[14:23] <Ananaskirsche> yes
[14:23] <cfhowlett> knome, true ...
[14:23] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, what exact tar are you talking about, give us a link
[14:23] <Ananaskirsche> wait a sec
[14:23] <knome> Ananaskirsche, you must have done something differently then, because there is no reason why it wouldn't work on xubuntu too.
[14:24] <Ananaskirsche> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper/files/latest/download
[14:24] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, and where are the windows drivers to use with that
[14:24] <Ananaskirsche> www.mediafire.com/?od9wpw6ccrnyhaa
[14:25] <cfhowlett> Ananaskirsche, absolutely NOT an approved source for official ubuntu downloads!
[14:25] <Ananaskirsche> it are just the windows drivers extracted out of the install file for windows. I used them already twice and they worked for me
[14:25] <knome> cfhowlett, well again, ubuntu doesn't provide official windows driver downloads ;)
[14:26] <Ananaskirsche> if i wanted to extract the drivers by my own i could, but the drivers are not the problem
[14:26] <Ananaskirsche> *want
[14:32] <Ananaskirsche> aren't there any ideas?
[14:32] <bazhang> for what
[14:33] <Ananaskirsche> for my problem
[14:33] <cfhowlett> Ananaskirsche, see, this is where DETAILS matter.  restate the issue
[14:33] <bazhang> you have not made clear at all what exact commands you have used, the exact errors you received
[14:33] <bazhang> you just say DONT WORK
[14:34] <bazhang> pastebin the exact commands used
[14:34] <bazhang> !paste | Ananaskirsche
[14:34] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, also paste the exact error messages you have received
[14:36] <Ananaskirsche> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10568602/
[14:37] <koegs> why do you want to install ndiswrapper manually?
[14:37] <Ananaskirsche> how should I install it?
[14:38] <koegs> either via apt-get, synaptic, software-center or manually via .deb file if no network is available
[14:38] <koegs> but NOT via "make install" :(
[14:39] <Lyze> good evening guys ;)
[14:39] <Ananaskirsche> I would install with apt-get but it requires a network connection, wouldnt it?
[14:39] <koegs> Ananaskirsche: that is why i mentioned .deb files
[14:39] <bazhang> you have one now
[14:39] <Ananaskirsche> which one?
[14:40] <Ananaskirsche> ndisgtk, utils or common
[14:40] <bazhang> a net connection
[14:40] <Ananaskirsche> or all?
[14:40] <bazhang> !find ndis-gtk
[14:40] <Ananaskirsche> Im using my windows machine
[14:40] <koegs> ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 ndiswrapper-common ndisgtk dkms ndiswrapper-dkms
[14:40] <Ananaskirsche> try version 12.10
[14:41] <koegs> Ananaskirsche: you are on 12.10?
[14:42] <cfhowlett> koegs, for the sake of clarity, please run this command:  cat /etc/issue | pastebinit
[14:42] <bazhang> he said he was on trusty
[14:43] <Ananaskirsche> sry for let u wait... Im on version 14.04.02 but you can find the packages in the 12.10 repo
[14:43] <cfhowlett> bazhang, confused about the 12.10 then ..
[14:43] <cfhowlett> I should say I'M confused ... :)
[14:43] <bazhang> heh
[14:43] <Ananaskirsche> :)
[14:43] <knome> Ananaskirsche, using packages for a two year old release isn't the best thing you can do and i wouldn't be surprised if that didn't work
[14:44] <Ananaskirsche> sry just found http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/utopic/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[14:44] <bazhang> !info ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[14:44] <koegs> if you are on trusty, you should use packages for trusty...
[14:45] <Ananaskirsche> do i have to install all it dependencies manuelly?
[14:47] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, you have a net connection currently; why not use that wire to connect to the ubuntu machine, then do it that way
[14:49] <koegs> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#Installing_Packages_without_internet_access
[14:49] <Ananaskirsche> wired connection is no option, i would need a 30m cable
[14:49] <Ananaskirsche> im using my windows machine at the moment
[14:50] <Ananaskirsche> @koegs is this for xubuntu ok too?
[14:50] <koegs> Ananaskirsche: yes
[14:50] <Ananaskirsche> and is synaptics preinstalles?
[14:50] <Ananaskirsche> *preinstalled
[14:51] <bazhang> no
[14:51] <Ananaskirsche> and how i install it offline?
[14:51] <koegs> you can use the software center
[14:52] <bazhang> did you read the actual link above
[14:52] <Ananaskirsche> If found a possible way: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1901446
[14:53] <Ananaskirsche> @koegs the software-center is the biggest crap ive ever seen for me. I've used it a few times and it never worked for me
[14:53] <Ananaskirsche> also when it was preinstalled
[14:53] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#Installing_Packages_without_internet_access
[14:54] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, ^^^
[14:54] <drc> Ananaskirsche: Without reading that link closely and for detail, I'd be wary of using a 4 year old post, it <may> work and it may not.
[14:54] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, did you read that or NOT
[14:54] <koegs> it basically says: use the files from CD/iso
[14:55] <Ananaskirsche> i read that but didnt understood it
[14:55] <Ananaskirsche> but it says: "click System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager" and someone said that synaptics isnt preinstalled, which means i have to install it
[14:56] <koegs> you can also use "sudo apt-cdrom add" if you dont like software center
[14:57] <koegs> it is just one of the many tool to add the cdrom to the package sources -.-
[14:57] <Ananaskirsche> and then=
[14:57] <Ananaskirsche> ?
[14:57] <koegs> then just use at-get
[14:57] <koegs> *apt-get
[14:57] <Ananaskirsche> apt-get install ndiswrapper-common?
[14:58] <koegs> sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[14:58] <Ananaskirsche> ok, will try this and come again
[14:58] <Ananaskirsche> thanks
[14:59] <cfhowlett> !cookie | koegs good work
[15:03] <bazhang> !helpersnack
[15:03] <bazhang> heh
[15:29] <Ananaskirsche> Hello, Im back
[15:29] <Ananaskirsche> It doesnt worked
[15:30] <Ananaskirsche> @bazhang can you give me the commands again please?
[15:30] <bazhang> details of the exact errors
[15:30] <bazhang> pastebin them
[15:30] <Ananaskirsche> couldnt found package
[15:30] <bazhang> also the exact commands used
[15:31] <Ananaskirsche> it could found the package
[15:31] <bazhang> "dont work" is not a detail
[15:31] <Ananaskirsche> could not found package
[15:31] <Ananaskirsche> apt-cdrom was successful
[15:32] <Ananaskirsche> it added the cd
[15:32] <bazhang> so apt-get update
[15:34] <Ananaskirsche> when i do this it says ing cdrom://Xubuntu 14-04-02 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20150218) trusty/main
[15:34] <Ananaskirsche> which means it ignores the cd?
[15:34] <bazhang> its says "ing" <------
[15:34] <bazhang> what is "ing"
[15:34] <Ananaskirsche> sry ign
[15:34] <Ananaskirsche> not ing
[15:35] <bazhang> apt-cache search ndiswrapper
[15:35] <Ananaskirsche> gives nothing to output
[15:37] <Ananaskirsche> no idea?
[15:37] <bazhang> you said adding the cd was successful
[15:39] <Ananaskirsche> the command i used was "sudo apt-cdrom -m --no-auto-detect -d /media/ananaskirsche/Xubuntu\ 14.04.02\ LTS\ amd64/ add"
[15:41] <Ananaskirsche> anyone no idea?
[15:42] <knome> Ananaskirsche, i'm sure people won't suddenly have new ideas even if you asked every 2 minutes
[15:42] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, is the net connection not yours?
[15:43] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, whats stopping you from moving your ubuntu computer MUCH closer to the router
[15:43] <Ananaskirsche> it is but my router is upstairs i would need a 30m cable
[15:43] <Ananaskirsche> and its in the room my dad is working
[15:44] <bazhang> so go in there when he's not
[15:44] <Ananaskirsche> thats once a month
[15:44] <Ananaskirsche> cant wait so long
[15:44] <bazhang> cat5e cables are quite common, and 30m is nothing
[15:45] <Ananaskirsche> Thats not possible
[15:45] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, you are very very light on details, and just keep repeating "dont work"
[15:45] <Ananaskirsche> i dont want to buy something
[15:45] <Ananaskirsche> say what u need bazhang
[15:45] <bazhang> so it is possible
[15:46] <bazhang> you just want to do it the very hardest way
[15:46] <Ananaskirsche> say how i should do it bauhang
[15:46] <Ananaskirsche> *bazhang
[15:46] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche> Thats not possible <Ananaskirsche> i dont want to buy something
[15:47] <Ananaskirsche> i really saying that the only solution is to buy a cable?
[15:47] <bazhang> connecting by wire, and this would done in an instant
[15:47] <Ananaskirsche> ITS NOT POSSIBLE
[15:47] <bazhang> very well
[15:48] <Ananaskirsche> It worked under Ubuntu and it worked under Manjaro, why its not possible when xubuntu is the same?!
[15:48] <bazhang> you said it did NOT work with ubuntu
[15:48] <bazhang> now it does?
[15:48] <Ananaskirsche> I said it worked
[15:48] <Ananaskirsche> under ubuntu it worked the hole time
[15:48] <bazhang> when was this
[15:49] <Ananaskirsche> the last time i used it
[15:49] <bazhang> which was when
[15:49] <Ananaskirsche> now i wanted to install xubuntu instead
[15:49] <Ananaskirsche> i think a week ago
[15:49] <bazhang> when did it last work
[15:49] <bazhang> so log into the ubuntu session
[15:49] <Ananaskirsche> cant, ubuntu is deleted
[15:50] <bazhang> how was xubuntu installed
[15:50] <Ananaskirsche> by cd
[15:50] <Ananaskirsche> downloaded from my windows machine
[15:50] <bazhang> so get a usb stick
[15:50] <Ananaskirsche> go
[15:50] <Ananaskirsche> t
[15:51] <bazhang> ?
[15:51] <Ananaskirsche> I have one
[15:51] <Ananaskirsche> its just now in my hands
[15:51] <Ananaskirsche> Im holding it
[15:51] <bazhang> packages ubuntu com
[15:51] <Ananaskirsche> calling packages.ubuntu.com
[15:51] <Ananaskirsche> I have
[15:52] <bazhang> dl the deb and dependencies for those packages
[15:52] <Ananaskirsche> all?
[15:52] <bazhang> put on the usb stick
[15:52] <Ananaskirsche> all?
[15:52] <bazhang> take the usb stick to your immovable ubuntu computer
[15:52] <Ananaskirsche> all packages + dependencies?
[15:53] <bazhang> copy them over to the ubuntu machine
[15:53] <bazhang> get the windows drivers, start up ndisgtk, point it to the drivers
[15:54] <Ananaskirsche> all packages + dependencies?
[15:54] <bazhang> dl the deb and dependencies for those packages <--- Ananaskirsche
[15:54] <Ananaskirsche> sry
[15:55] <bazhang> keeping in mind this is the very hardest way to do it
[15:55] <Ananaskirsche> ok
[15:55] <bazhang> good luck
[15:55] <Ananaskirsche> thx
[15:55] <Ananaskirsche> tz
[15:55] <bazhang> np
[15:58] <koegs> i am not sure if this works on an offline PC: sudo apt-get install ndisgtk --allow-unauthenticated -y --print-uris | grep -o '\'http.*\' | tr "\'" " "
[15:58] <koegs> this will generate a list of needed packages, Ananaskirsche
[15:58] <Ananaskirsche> ok will try
[15:59] <koegs> i think the apt-cdrom does not work because nowerdays they put everything into squashfs
[15:59] <Ananaskirsche> ok
[15:59] <Ananaskirsche> what does that mean for me?
[16:00] <bazhang> setting up a vm with ubuntu in it and then creating an aptoncd would be tons easier as well
[16:00] <koegs> nothing, just that my "apt-cdrom" command does not help here :D
[16:00] <koegs> <- afk
[16:03] <Ananaskirsche> I will install ubuntu again
[16:03] <Ananaskirsche> it doesnt work
[16:03] <Ananaskirsche> I hate xubuntu
[16:04] <Ananaskirsche> why it doesnt work when its the same?
[16:04] <Ananaskirsche> why?
[16:22] <Lachezar> Hey all. For some time now I've been unable to open URLs in Xubuntu from various places. Can't open URLs from Thunderbird or the Console. However "xdg-open http://ubuntu.com/" works.
[16:23] <Nivex> known issue. Firefox changed their URL open command line in the latest update
[16:23] <knome> bug 1425972
[16:25] <Nivex> I hope a backport fix makes it soon. I'm getting tired of right click, copy url, open url, paste
[16:25] <knome> if you look at the bug comments, you'll find a workaround right now
[16:26] <knome> and, if you want to help updates land faster, all contributions are welcome
[16:33] <Nivex> that bug report is so long I wasn't able to find much of value in there, so i figured it out myself. and <voice="mccoy">Dammit Jim, I'm a sysadmin, not a developer.</voice>
[16:40] <Lachezar> Maaaannnn! This .desktop editor is full-of-it!
[16:42] <knome> Lachezar, please calm down
[16:42] <Lachezar> knome: Oh, I'm calm, that was a disappointment line, not an angry one.
[16:43] <Lachezar> knome: the current .desktop editor is like a game 'Find-Where-The-Focus-Is-If-You-Can' :)
[16:44] <knome> Lachezar, then stop acting like you need to calm down...
[16:45] <Lachezar> knome: That's a hard thing to do: writing is not the same as talking, and everyone has his/her own idea of what an angry write is.
[16:46] <knome> Lachezar, then don't leave room for interpretation.
[16:46] <Lachezar> knome: That's pretty unachievable. Ask any lawyer ;)
[16:46] <knome> Lachezar, ok, enough of this, but please keep the disappointment down in the future.
[16:46] <bazhang> !ot | Lachezar
[16:47] <Lachezar> Is there a way to 'override' a .../xfce4-helpers/something.desktop using the $HOME?
[16:47] <knome> Lachezar, and if you don't give us any examples of what's actually wrong with the editor (and tell us which you are using), it's hard to "fix" anything
[16:51] <Lachezar> Nivex: This work-around actually helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emacs24/+bug/1425972/comments/85
[16:52] <slickymasterWork> Nivex: FAIW bug 1425972 is already Fix Released status~
[17:32] <Lachezar> quit Going home.
[17:32] <Lachezar> Whops. Forgot the slash :(
[17:32] <srsr> good morning, is anyone here?
[17:33] <slickymasterWork> !ask | srsr
[17:34] <srsr> I am running ubuntu 14 and wondering what the best way would be to hook up to a homegroup or workgroup just to use the printer
[17:34] <srsr> the homegroup is made up of win 7 puters
[17:35] <srsr> Im onthe same wifi
[17:41] <GridCube> just share the printer from windows and add the printer on the settings manager > printers
[17:55] <srsr> none of the three windows seven machines are set up wired into the network, they are wireless and a homegroup is set up.we have one printer being shared by three machines all windows 7 and working that way but im thinking i may not be able to do this because they are not hard wired
[17:56] <srsr> just looking up samba
[17:58] <krytarik> !samba | srsr: Just in case
[17:59] <srsr> thanks
[18:16] <pinkeee> hola a todos - q pasa?
[18:17] <krytarik> !es | pinkeee
[18:17] <elfy> !es | pinkeee
[18:17] <elfy> hah :)
[18:17] <krytarik> lol
[18:17] <pinkeee> trato la dvd del web ahora. q por exacto me hace?
[18:17] <srsr> ok.. using samba and was wondering? when you open up a terminal and get into samba to change the workgroup = WORKGROUP for instance can i change that to homegroup = myhomegroupname instead ? to make it see the printer on homegroup
[18:18] <pinkeee> oops i sorry
[18:19] <pinkeee> i speak english
[18:19] <pinkeee> what is it that i do after install dvd?
[18:20] <knome> srsr, workgroup is a technical term, you should not change that.
[18:22] <krytarik> pinkeee: What exactly do you mean?
[18:26] <srsr> ya... but in windows there is a option to make a workgroup or a homegroup.. so i made a homegroup for that little network because homegroups are trusted and less locked down.. it is workig for the three computers on that little wireless group with one printer attached by usb... now i want to join the group with my ubuntu laptop just to print so i was wondering if i should change it to homegroup because that is what it is called
[18:47]  * srsr slaps himself with a huge rainbow trout
[19:54] <xubuntu60w> how do create a usb os disk for use of the live xubuntu
[19:55] <ObrienDave> unetbootin
[19:55] <ObrienDave> or burn ISO to DVD disc
[20:03] <bynarie> xubuntu60w, what OS are you tryin to make the liveusb in?
[22:57] <qkzoo1978> Hi.  Everytime I close my laptop lid, while the power is still on, the unit goes into standby mode.  When I open it back up, I sometimes get the unlock screen, I type in my password, and then the screen goes black again.  This happens consistently.  If I switch to another terminal (i.e., CTL + ALT + F1) the screen turns on for that terminal, but if I switch back to the main one (CTL + ALT + F7) I still get the blank black scr
[22:57] <qkzoo1978> een.  Any fix suggestions?
[23:40] <qkzoo1978> Links in Thunderbird don't work when you click on them.
[23:41] <qkzoo1978> Any fix, starting to get annoying?
[23:43] <ObrienDave> there's a setting for that in thunderbird. don't remember where it is
[23:46] <qkzoo1978> It opens a new Firefox window, it just doesn't open the link I clicked.
[23:49] <drc1> could it be related to Launchpad bug 1425972 in exo (Ubuntu Utopic) "Firefox no longer supports -remote parameter" [Undecided,In progress] ?
[23:50] <qkzoo1978> Cool, thanks :)


[02:05] <yano> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caps_lock#International_Caps_Lock_Day
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[13:43] <yano> http://wcbe.org/post/bmv-start-accepting-credit-cards-week
[13:43] <jenni> [ BMV To Start Accepting Credit Cards This Week | WCBE 90.5 FM ] - https://bit.ly/28XPQs1


[05:04] <guiverc> possibly worth note for next uwn: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/chromium-updates-on-trusty/5905   (no more updates for chromium on trusty)
[05:05] <guiverc> is it worth putting on fridge??  (I can't recall seeing any like it before..)  - just a thought...
[09:43] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Sina Mashek: Setting up Samba onÂ Solus @ https://sinacutie.stream/blog/samba-on-solus
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[16:55] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: Canonical Says There's No Rules Against Mining Cryptocurrencies through Snaps @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-says-there-s-no-rules-against-mining-cryptocurrencies-through-snaps-521132.shtml (by Marius Nestor)
[19:01] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Studio: Ubuntu Studio Development News â May 14, 2018 @ http://ubuntustudio.org/2018/05/ubuntu-studio-development-news-may-14-2018/
[19:27] <krytarik> The sections seem to be totally out of control this time around...
[19:28] <krytarik> Going ahead and reshuffling almost everything.
[19:28] <Bashing-om> krytarik: seen that .,,, and removed 2 duplicates .
[19:48] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Wine 3.0.1 Uncorks 60 Bug Fixes @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=131292 (by Joey Sneddon)
[19:50] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: Endless OS Picks Up Companion App for Android, Smarter Updates in Major Release @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/endless-os-picks-up-companion-app-for-android-smarter-updates-in-major-release-521136.shtml (by Marius Nestor)
[20:42] <tsimonq2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-community-team/2018-May/001574.html
[20:42] <krytarik> Ding!
[20:44] <Wild_Man> thanks tsimonq2 we will add it
[21:16] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to Launch Apps from the Nautilus File Manager @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-launch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml (by Marius Nestor)
[21:55] <krytarik> Bashing-om: Please try and pay a little more attention to what is and isn't the right section for things - I'm getting a little tired of moving stuff around right now..
[21:55] <Bashing-om> krytarik: ack
[22:38] <Wild_Man> The title can be copied and pasted from the article correct?
[22:49] <krytarik> Yep, but be aware that it may copy the formatting along with it - which is why I always do "copy as plain text" then, using an addon.


[05:33] <thumper> mwhudson: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thumper/launchpad/code-review-comment-tweak/+merge/23522
[05:33] <thumper> mwhudson: trivial
[05:36] <mwhudson> thumper: done
[05:36] <thumper> mwhudson: ta
[07:44] <danilos> adiroiban, I am resubmitting your branch for landing, hopefully it goes through this time
[07:44] <adiroiban> danilos: hi. ok :)
[10:14] <StevenK> adeuring: Hi! Could you look at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~stevenk/launchpad/fixes-bug-451396/+merge/21706 ?
[10:14] <adeuring> StevenK: sure
[10:53] <adeuring> streview sent
[10:53] <adeuring> StevenK: review sent
[11:16] <StevenK> adeuring: Thank you!
[14:13] <gmb> adeuring, Can I get a code review for https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gmb/launchpad/make-bugwatch-errors-less-obscure-bug-530113/+merge/23541 please?
[14:14] <gmb> rockstar, Are you available to give me a trivial UI review for https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gmb/launchpad/make-bugwatch-errors-less-obscure-bug-530113/+merge/23541?
[14:19] <adeuring> gmb: sure
[14:19] <gmb> adeuring, Thanks
[14:24] <adeuring> gmb: rapproved
[14:25] <gmb> adeuring, Danke.
[14:25] <adeuring> gmb: welcome :)
[14:56] <sinzui> gmb: the tooltip looks good
[14:57] <gmb> sinzui, Thanks.
[15:01] <sinzui> gmb: I think I stepped on intellectronica or rockstar by just approving it.
[15:01] <intellectronica> and it hurts...
[15:01] <gmb> sinzui, Yeah, intellectronica said he'd review it, sorry.
[15:01] <intellectronica> but i would have given the exact same reply as you anyway, looks excellent :)
[15:02] <gmb> intellectronica, Thanks.
[15:02] <sinzui> intellectronica, this is your chance to prove I am incompetent. maybe the tooltip target is too small on your machine so you can never make it appear
[15:02] <gmb> Gah! I submitted it against db-devel, not devel. Oh well, old-fashioned ec2 test it is then.
[15:02] <gmb> intellectronica, sinzui: NO, IT'S FINE.
[15:03] <intellectronica> ha ha
[15:03] <sinzui> gmb: but lp does think you have a merge conflict
[15:03] <gmb> sinzui, That's because it's submitted against the wrong branch.
[15:04] <gmb> sinzui, The mp is for merging into db-devel, but I want it to land on devel.
[15:04] <sinzui> I suspected that
[15:04] <gmb> I'll check that it's not actually a problem, though.
[15:21] <bigjools> adeuring: really trivial branch winging its way to you as soon as the email gets to LP :)
[15:21] <adeuring> bigjools: ok, I#ll take a trivial look ;)
[15:22] <bigjools> adeuring: danke :)
[15:28] <adeuring> bigjools: r=me
[15:29] <bigjools> adeuring: cheers
[15:43] <EdwinGrubbs> adeuring: hi, can you review https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~edwin-grubbs/launchpad/bug-554153-claim-profile-bug/+merge/23550
[15:43] <adeuring> EdwinGrubbs: sure
[15:59] <noodles775> Hi adeuring, will you have time for another one? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~michael.nelson/launchpad/delegate-to-buildfarmjob/+merge/23553
[15:59] <adeuring> noodles775: I am a bit tired, but I'll try my best ;)
[16:00] <noodles775> adeuring: no problem if you don't get to it... it'll get picked up on Monday. Thanks either way.
[16:26] <adeuring> EdwinGrubbs: w=me
[16:35] <EdwinGrubbs> thanks


[08:41] <dholbach> good morning
[09:59] <elacheche> good morning dholbach :)
[09:59] <dholbach> hi elacheche
[10:00] <elacheche> Somebody need to change the dates on the MemberShip wiki page → https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards
[10:11] <belkinsa> elacheche, that goes to the Membership Board people.  There is an e-mail on the bottom of that page.