[18:01] <crc32> ThinkT510: I just think its a really bad idea to have the disclaimer "the Job file format is not stable yet, so if you upgrade upstart later you may need to fix existing files" yet upstart is already configured during the install. :(
[18:02] <ThinkT510> crc32: like i said, i prefer the way arch does it (much like the bsds); i don't know much about upstart but it isn't my decision which init system ubuntu decides to support and implement
[18:03] <orated> Will ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso work both for 32 and 64 bit systems?
[18:03] <oCean> aleperalta: it seems there's a PPA called ubuntugis-unstable, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntugis-unstable, with hardy packages. I'm not familiar with it though. You could also try #ubuntu-server, since there's specific server support
[18:04] <crc32> ThinkT510: Its cool. I'll see what I can get out of it. :|
[18:04] <ThinkT510> orated: yes 64bit cpus will run both 32 and 64
[18:04] <aleperalta> oCean: thanks for your reply, I did try it but it didn't supply the right packages, I'll ask in #ubuntu-server
[18:04] <altin> hello can anyone tell me how can I install nvidia recomended drivers for ubuntu via terminal cuz i uninstalled them and now the ubuntu wont boot
[18:05] <altin> it stays loading
[18:05] <orated> ThinkT510: Yeah, 64 bit can handle both. But is i386 iso designed for both 32 and 64 bit?
[18:05] <bullgard4> Why do exist 2 different directories /var/log/unattended-upgrades/ and /var/log/dist-upgrades in Natty? (Both are empty with me.)
[18:06] <ThinkT510> orated: it will work whether you have a 64bit or 32bit cpu
[18:06] <orated> ThinkT510: Alright. Thanks again :-)
[18:06] <ThinkT510> orated: np
[18:06] <altin> can anyone tell me how can I install nvidia recomended drivers for ubuntu via terminal cuz i uninstalled them and now the ubuntu wont boot
[18:08] <jifli> can someone point me to a document that decribes the ubuntu boot process, step by step, chronologically?
[18:09] <sushant> @altin : you can do a sudo apt-get install nvidia- and press tab to select drivers for your model
[18:10] <crc32> In upstart how can I see a list of events that I can choose to configure my upstart job to start on. For example I see some jobs start on the "filesystem" event. Is there a list somewhere?
[18:10] <trism> bullgard4: /var/log/unattended-upgrades/ is part of the unattended-upgrades packages, which allows you to automatically install security upgrades, /var/log/dist-upgrade/ is part of update-manager-core and I believe it will contain logs of upgrading between releases (10.10 -> 11.04 for example)
[18:11] <jifli> crc32: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28281/what-events-are-available-for-upstart
[18:13] <crc32> Danm I'm on 10.04 this doc doesn't seem to apply to me at all. :|
[18:15] <electrall> anyone successfully installed VMPK? I've just installed it, but no sounds out
[18:16] <crc32> Since upstart doesn't look ready for 10.04 is there a way to revert back to the systemV startup for ubuntu 10.04? Seems I keep falling further down the rabbit hole when I try to configure upstart.
[18:16] <joeoshawa> updated java and libreoffice still not working
[18:17] <joeoshawa> general error occured while trying to access your central configuration
[18:17] <nsd_> I'm having trouble with a server connecting to the network here. I have a server and client machine both connected to a switch. I had asked two hours ago about this problem and was advised to look into manual routing, but I got nowhere with it. I can ping the server from the desktop, and I've stopped the firewall on it, but yet I can't ssh into it. I was able to ssh into it just a few hours ago, however.
[18:18] <nsd_> The situation is just deteriorating the more I work on it... The switch connects to a wireless bridge that connects those two machines to the rest of the network, but while the desktop can use it just fine, the server can't
[18:19] <nsd_> The server is running apache, and I can see that it's serving pages fine from the aforementioned desktop....
[18:19] <NERDLINE> hi guys, how to open .iso from 2 seperate .rar files? ( tried to use unrar-all and archive manager, failed on both)
[18:19] <crc32> Anyone know what happened to /etc/inittab? Its not on my systems which seems really alien.
[18:19] <ThinkT510> !rar | NERDLINE
[18:19] <maco> crc32: ubuntu doesn't use sysv init
[18:20] <NERDLINE> !info unrar-free
[18:20] <maco> !upstart | crc32
[18:20] <nsd_> crc32: Look in /etc/init.d
[18:20] <crc32> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/faq.html#example-jobs-what <-- While trying to read I noticed it references iniittab :( so even this example doc doesn't apply to me.
[18:20] <maco> bah, someone let the docs get out of date
[18:22] <NERDLINE> thanks...found the multivolume paragraph, however my 2 files dont contain 001, 002 endings.. :|
[18:22] <bullgard4> trism: I found your statement very useful and could confirm using another Lucid computer of mine.  --  Thank you very much for your help.
[18:23] <crc32> I am not running 11.04 so I can't "man upstart-events" to see a list of events to choose from. I'm trying to use upstart and I'm just trying to find a list of events I can schedule this job to run at. :|
[18:24] <nsd_> Nobody?
[18:24] <TheRedOctober> Hi all.  What is the best free pdf editor for basic users?
[18:24] <joao> xpdf
[18:24] <joao> ;)
[18:24] <Malware> adobe
[18:24] <nsd_> Anyone know why ssh would inextricably stop working?
[18:24] <Malware> reader
[18:24] <TheRedOctober> Malware: nice:)
[18:24] <joao> apt-cache search xpdf*
[18:24] <Malware> nsd_ deleting something you need
[18:24] <Malware> I did that on a VPS once
[18:24] <Malware> :|
[18:25] <Malware> make sure you are using " " if you are rm -rf'ing :p
[18:25] <nsd_> Malware: Hmmph.... it's not that, it's my network
[18:25] <nsd_> Malware: My network is a total mess right now
[18:25] <Malware> i learned my lesson  for not using " " when rm -rf'ing. :p
[18:25] <nsd_> Malware: I hear ya
[18:27] <yo123> how to map network drive on ubuntu
[18:27] <Malware> ugh......i don't know.
[18:27] <dvdr> any suggestions for the best way to encrypt a folder under ubuntu? I'm trying to help a buddy who has no command line or linux knowledge so something simple would be nice. Ive seen a few ideas out there on google but please let me know what you think is best
[18:27] <Malware> dvdr *_* hide it in a billion sub folders
[18:27] <Malware> thats what I do
[18:28] <dvdr> Malware: Nice, but not quite secure enough!
[18:28] <BHSPitMonkey> !truecrypt
[18:28] <th0r> dvdr: once it is set up gpa does a decent (and easy) job
[18:28] <Malware> make a billion sub folders in folders and put shit in there thats top secret
[18:29] <oCean> Malware: that's not really helpful
[18:29] <Malware> yes it is.
[18:29] <Malware> :| Some people may find it helpful
[18:29] <Malware> I do
[18:29] <Malware> :|
[18:29] <Malware> just don't do it, yo. if you has problem take it up with me in pm, kthxbai?
[18:29] <Alexis15> excuse me pls
[18:30] <dvdr> BHSPitMonkey: ok thanks. Ill look into that
[18:30]  * wols_ excuses Alexis15
[18:30] <BHSPitMonkey> Alexis15: you're excused.
[18:30] <Alexis15> i have kinda a long question pls lol
[18:30] <Malware> trolol
[18:30] <oCean> Malware: your answer has nothing to do with encryption. Hiding anything in milions of folders is very easy to find
[18:30] <dvdr> th0r: thanks ill look it up
[18:30] <Malware> oCean, I can encrypt it
[18:30] <Malware> *_*
[18:31] <Malware> its called 7zip password protection
[18:31] <Alexis15> ok, so i 15 but my summer job is i help old people fix their computer for them and the laptop i have.. it was super slow right
[18:31] <yo123> does anybody know how to map network drive on ubuntu?
[18:31] <Alexis15> so i was trying to change things from PIO to DMA.. and the HDD just like died
[18:31] <Alexis15> and i cant boot up W7 on it at all.. so i used puppy linux to get to the computer
[18:31] <wols_> Alexis15: this is ubuntu related how?
[18:31] <Alexis15> ya..
[18:31] <Alexis15> the question is this
 and i cant boot up W7 on it at all.. so i used puppy linux to get to the computer
[18:31] <Alexis15> how can i use puppy linux to recover her files, and system restore so that w7 will be bran new on it
[18:31] <Malware> she said she used puppy linux
[18:32] <wols_> Alexis15: we don't know, don't care and you are OT. please go away
[18:32] <Alexis15> if she finds out i like crashed her hdd she will tell all her friends im a bad computer fixer and then they wont let me help n e more :(
[18:32] <Alexis15> whats OT?
[18:32] <wols_> !ot
[18:32] <Alexis15> ok well i asked in puppy linux
[18:32] <Alexis15> and the jerks said i should ask here
[18:32] <Alexis15> so this is a bit unfair
[18:32] <Malware> alexis15, lolol'd.
[18:33] <Alexis15> cant u just pls tell me at least what i cna google
[18:33] <wols_> I don't believe they did. in any way: we don't know about puppy linux or care about it. and this is not the right place to ask about fixing windows7. so please don't
[18:33] <Alexis15> so i can have like a clue
[18:33] <crc32> I'm just going to ask straight up. Does anyone know how to list the available list of events some one can start an upstart job at. I'm looking through the upstart docs but they are clearly in flux.
[18:33] <Malware> nobody here uses windows >_>
[18:33] <wols_> crc32: politely put
[18:33] <Alexis15> let me ask you this
[18:33] <oCean> Alexis15: this is ubuntu support. Support for puppy is in#puppylinux
[18:33] <oCean> Malware: sure, many are using windows
[18:33] <Alexis15> if you know nothing about windows, ur about useless to 80% of society who uses windows wouldnt you agree
[18:34] <Malware> ew, oCean. nasty.  I'm giving support to these niggers
[18:38] <wols_> MozoO: there are tons of proxies, but why do they need web interfaces?
[18:39] <rww> MozoO: I've used privoxy occasionally in the past, I know it has a web UI
[18:39] <joeoshawa> for people having a problem opening Libreoffice the fix is this  sudo chown -R joe.joe /home/joe/.libreoffice
[18:39] <MozoO> wols_:  to give the url to some admins to check the log files?
[18:40] <MozoO> wols_: just read about a good one named squid but does it have any WEB UI?
[18:40] <wols_> I'm pretty sure someone somewhere made a tool to read logs via web...
[18:41] <wols_> tho why it's needed is not entirely clear when there is less, grep and the like
[18:41] <crc32> ok. on my system I can see the file "/etc/rcN.d/S15bind9" and bind9 is running on this system, but there is no bind9 config in /etc/init. This implies both sysv scripts are starting as well as jobs managed by upstart. How is this possible?
[18:42] <crc32> I was told it was either one or the other.
[18:45] <Xodiac13> can someone please point me in the right direction of which wireless hardware to by for a pci xpress 16 slot that is compatible and out of the box for ubuntu 11.04 64bit version
[18:45] <wols_> Xodiac13: usually atheros based cards. no firmware, direct linux kernel support
[18:46] <sleepr> so.. i cant get any connection when i use Wubi, not wireless and not even via cable :x any ideas?
[18:46] <Xodiac13> wols_ : are there any new current ones i can buy like if i were to go by bestbuy
[18:46] <Xodiac13> wols_ : cause the problem i ran into my usb wireless device is not supported yet and plus i want one that i can put into the desktop using the pci x16
[18:47] <oxseyn> I'm install Ubuntu 11.04 server x64 from CDROM to a 2GB flash/ide drive.  It fails every time on "Select and install software" about 50% through.  The only "option" selected is SSH Server.  Any ideas?
[18:47] <wols_> Xodiac13: there are no cards for a pci-e x16 slot. you can put a normal pci-e 1y one in (tho they are a bit rare for pci-e) tho that's a waste
[18:48] <martin_tsc> !VPN
[18:48] <wols_> and naming specific brand or card names is a waste of time since they change monthly
[18:48] <wols_> oxseyn: fails how?
[18:48] <Xodiac13> wols_ : so what do you recommened to get most out of my wireless and im able to put it into a slot and have it work out of the box or at least config it a little
[18:49] <oxseyn> wols_: The only feedback i get is: "Installation step failed ... the failing step is "Select and install software."
[18:49] <wols_> Xodiac13: I already told you
[18:49] <oxseyn> wols_: That's the third time I've tried.  The base install goes just fine.
[18:49] <wols_> oxseyn: then don't install software at all
[18:49] <mrwinkydinky> anybody here have a general understanding of how magnets work
[18:49] <oxseyn> wols_: i'll give that a try, see what happens.
[18:49] <Xodiac13> wols_: yeah but you said its rare for pci-e and did you say that even if its not it will still work in the slot anyways
[18:49] <mrwinkydinky> i think i came up with an idea to perpetuate magnetic energy
[18:49] <mrwinkydinky> anyone?
[18:49] <wols_> mrwinkydinky: is ubuntu a magnet?
[18:50] <mrwinkydinky> no
[18:50] <mrwinkydinky> ubuntu is not a magnet
[18:50] <mrwinkydinky> but the components in the hardware are magnetic, some of them anyways
[18:50] <wols_> mrwinkydinky: then go away until you have proof that ubuntu is a magnet. goodbye
[18:50] <mrwinkydinky> don't goodbye me missy
[18:51] <mrwinkydinky> oh, ha
[18:51] <mrwinkydinky> i'm in the wrong chat room
[18:51] <guest123456> hi everyone
[18:51] <mrwinkydinky> 1000 pardons
[18:51] <mrwinkydinky> good bye
[18:51] <mrwinkydinky> connect
[18:51] <guest123456> does anyone here have demonoid invite codes?
[18:52] <rww> guest123456: that's offtopic for this network, please don't ask here.
[18:52] <guest123456> whats the topic?
[18:52] <guest123456> oh
[18:52] <rww> guest123456: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support.
[18:53] <guest123456> does anyone know how to get flash not to lose focus in full scree (w/ multiple screens) and working on another window?
[18:53] <Stef__> Hi, i want to set up a mail-server. Is there someone who has a good tutorial for this? Thanks
[18:54] <NERDLINE> !info unrar-free
[18:54] <pi_> hi
[18:54] <pi_> how do I get to the kernel boot line on startup in 10.04?
[18:54] <chenthu> !info
[18:55] <chenthu> !ubottu
[18:55] <pi_> please can someone tell me how to edit the grub line on startup? do I hold down shift?
[18:55] <pi_> please can someone tell me how to edit the grub line on startup? do I hold down shift?
[18:56] <pi_> please can someone tell me how to edit the grub line on startup? do I hold down shift?
[18:56] <ldr> press e
[18:56] <pi_> e?
[18:56] <szal> !repeat | pi_
[18:56] <ldr> yes
[18:56] <ldr> for edit
[18:56] <pi_> ok, I'll try thanks
[18:56] <ldr> gl
[18:56] <pi_> ta
[18:57] <chenthu> pi: if u dont get the grub boot options hold shift while booting
[18:57] <chenthu> pi: then press 'e' to edit
[18:58]  * szal sees that chenthu likes talking to ppl who aren't there ;)
[18:58] <pi_> hi, "e" didnt work
[18:58] <ldr> pi: if your question is how to do change it persitend and not just for one boot look in /etc/grub.d and do update-grub
[18:58] <chenthu> szal: lol...
[18:58] <pi_> ldr, I'd like to edit the line on startup - I cant seem to access the kernel line
[18:58] <pi_> i'm 10.04
[18:59] <wols_> pi_: press right shift, yes
[18:59] <pi_> ok I'll try right shift, thanks
[18:59] <Xodiac13> does anyone know any good wireless desktop cards that are compatible with ubuntu 11.04 64bit
[18:59] <ldr> pi: just select the grub menupoint you want to change, press e, scroll to the line you want to change press enter edit the line and press b for boot
[18:59] <Xodiac13> off the bat
[19:00] <Pici> loki_: again, they're not here anymore.
[19:00] <nos09> does anyone knows why facebook-chat plugin is not working in pidgin-2.7.11
[19:00] <crc32> Why am I getting "unknown" when I execute "runleve" how can my system be in an unknown runlevel?
[19:00] <loki_> ?
[19:01] <aztek[tum]> if i ps -ef and in the CMD field it shows a - instead of the full command, what does that mean?
[19:01] <crc32> Is ubuntu getting rid of runlevels too? WTF?
[19:01] <dli> Xodiac13, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[19:02] <Pici> !runlevels | crc32
[19:02] <Xodiac13> dli: thanks
[19:02] <Pici> crc32: And we're not the only ones using upstart
[19:02] <loki_> m
[19:02] <szal> Pici: no, but some distros are switching to systemd
[19:03] <crc32> Pici? I've heard the upstart spill before but I'm asking is ubuntu getting rid of the notion of runlevels too?
[19:03] <nos09> does anyone knows why facebook-chat plugin is not working in pidgin-2.7.11
[19:03] <Pici> crc32: They should still exist despite us using upstart.
[19:03] <crc32> Pici: is runlevel "UNKNOWN" appropriate.
[19:04] <crc32> Pici: Yes I see it on another ubuntu system but on another machine runlevel is "unknown" and I believe this is why my SNN startup scripts aren't running.
[19:04] <Pici> crc32: Not on my machines, weird.
[19:05] <crc32> yea I'm researching it now but I'm getting references to /etc/inittab which doesn't apply to me. :|
[19:05] <ldr> maybe some fancy security stuff prevents you from reading the runlevel as normal user?
[19:05] <crc32> Pici: When you run "runlevel" your getting N 2 right?
[19:05] <oCean> crc32: do you use encrypted partition?
[19:06] <crc32> no.
[19:06] <pi_> hi - right shift worked thanks - couldnt fix my problem though, I have a black border around my screen - ati card, installed the proprietry catalyst driver - anyone know a fix?
[19:06] <th0r> crc32: have you tried it with sudo? In debian it is a root command
[19:06] <crc32> this machine has been rebooted several times and theirs no prompt for a crypto key
[19:06] <trism> crc32: there was a bug in earlier versions of 10.04 that caused it to go into runlevel unknown, but it should be fixed in an up-to-date system
[19:06] <crc32> yes I'm root
[19:07] <oCean> trism: oh right
[19:07] <root> hai all
[19:07] <oCean> crc32: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/543506
[19:07] <Guest42117> :p
[19:08] <Pici> crc32: I see "N 2" on my Ubuntu servers, but these are either running 10.04 or were upgraded from that.
[19:08] <Guest42117> hey anyes
[19:08] <Guest42117> hew ru??
[19:10] <crc32> I run sudo apt-get upgrade but all I get is "The following packages have been kept back linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server" 3 not upgraded.
[19:11] <Pici> crc32: you should be able to use dist-upgrade to get those
[19:11] <ldr> crc32: what about dist-upgrade?
[19:11] <ThinkT510> !backports | orated
[19:11] <crc32> Yea I want to run that but will it try to bump me to 11.04 or will it upgrade 10.04Lts
[19:11] <runicfox> crc32, you should also be able to use sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[19:12] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | crc32
[19:13] <crc32> I just hope this machine still boots afterwords. I don't have access to the DRAC interface.
[19:13] <crc32> DRAC = KVM over ip. If networking and ssh don't come up this is a lost node.
[19:16] <pi_> hi, i have a huge black border around my desktop can anyone help?
[19:16] <crc32> the dist-upgrade didn't fix it. My uptime is less then 1 minute and I still show runlevel "unknown"
[19:18] <pi_> c'mon there's 1552 people in here surely someone knows how to get rid of this black border
[19:19] <wols_> pi_: interaction between your videocard(driver) and your monitor
[19:19] <pi_> my graphics card is ati hd 5xxx
[19:19] <wols_> set it to the proper resolution for your monitor and it goes away
[19:19] <pi_> i installed the proprietry driver when prompted
[19:19] <pi_> it won't let me set it wols_
[19:20] <jiffe> I don't think connection sharing is what I want
[19:20] <jiffe> NAT won't allow both subnets to be publically accessible
[19:20] <pi_> the resolution is set at 1920 x 1080 which is correct
[19:21] <pi_> it seems ubuntu thinks my monitor is smaller
[19:22] <TheRedOctober> Hi all.  How do you keep the screen from going black when using tty?
[19:22] <Polah> TheRedOctober: You mean when using it or just when it switches?
[19:23] <joao> what o.o'' ?
[19:23] <TheRedOctober> Polah: when using it...in my server room I want to be able to keep nmon on and not have to walk over and hit a key (or find a keyboard to hit a key on) everytime I want to see what the load is
[19:24] <mgj> TheRedOctober, ssh to the server? :P
[19:24] <oCean> !google | oCean
[19:24] <g0t> Results for | oCean on Google:
[19:24] <g0t> --
[19:25] <crc32> My runlevel is "unknown" and this is disturbinmg. :|
[19:25] <Polah> TheRedOctober: Sounds like you'd need to edit power options to stop Ubuntu turning off the display after an amount of time.
[19:25] <Polah> What does pulseaudio have a default nice value of -11? It doesn't seem to make much sense to have a sound server as such a high priority.
[19:25] <DeviceZer0> hello all. Is there anyway i can make the scrollbar stand out more? its hard to find the little slider as its pretty much the same color as the whole slider
[19:25] <wols_> Polah: it does
[19:26] <Polah> wols_: I meant to say why does it set it to -11.
[19:26] <TheRedOctober> Polah: no X running here, and this isn't strictly an Ubuntu question...I would rather not have this feature and turn off the monitor when I want it off...
[19:27] <TheRedOctober> Polah: found it, "setterm -powersave off -blank 0"
[19:27] <Polah> TheRedOctober: This seems to be what you want, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-disable-screen-blanking-screen-going-blank.html specifically setterm -powersave off -blank 0
[19:27] <TheRedOctober> rock on
[19:28] <aryan> Hi, I'm having a problem with a USB webcam. It was working fine on another PC running 10.10, but now I've connected it to a new PC running natty and it only shows a blank screen
[19:29] <aryan> The output of cheese is: libv4l2: error turning on stream: No space left on device
[19:29] <aryan> Does anyone have an idea?
[19:29] <G00053> is there a hotkey to open nautilus ?
[19:30] <goodtime> yeah you dont seem to have the space to install cheese aryan
[19:30] <G00053> 10.04
[19:30] <aryan> no, cheese is installed
[19:30] <goodtime> then you dont have enoughf to take a shot
[19:30] <mangolian> what was the command along the lines of "sudo apt-get build-essential" ?
[19:30] <Polah> aryan: What other USB devices do you have plugged in/running. Also, try plugging the webcam into a different USB hub (i.e. on the front of the computer rather than the back)
[19:31] <Polah> mangolian: To do what, exactly?
[19:31] <mangolian> to get the C stuff
[19:31] <oCean> mangolian: to install: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[19:31] <mangolian> ahh,thanks
[19:31] <mangolian> that's what I was looking for
[19:31] <aryan> Thanks Polah,  I've tried various USb ports (front and back) with same effects. I've got a headset, a mouse and keyboard connected, all USB. they all work fine
[19:32] <Polah> aryan: not just different ports, a different hub. Your USB ports on the front should be on a separate hub from the USB ports on the back.
[19:34] <raluxgaza> Hey guys what good terminal based gui will you recommend for me
[19:34] <Polah> aryan: Ah, I missed the bit where you said front and back. My mistake. It could be a driver incompatibility issue since you've upgraded your Ubuntu distribution. I just though it could've been a USB bandwidth issue
[19:35] <Polah> raluxgaza: What do you mean? Most desktop environments will have a terminal-type application that comes with them. Ubuntu has a command line by default that's accessible without a desktop environment. On a regular install, Ctrl+Alt+F1 through F6 will give you six command line interfaces you can use.
[19:35] <adac> which logging mechanism is the standard one in ubuntu? rsyslog?
[19:35] <aryan> Thanks Polah, I think you were right about the USB bandwidth issue
[19:35] <Polah> aryan: Ah, it works now?
[19:36] <aryan> I just tried it to a different port at the back (different to the one I had tried before) and it works
[19:36] <raluxgaza> Polah, sorry I want clear enough, I mean I want to get ride of gnome and install a window manager without any UI just terminal
[19:36] <Polah> aryan: Ah, there you go them (:
[19:37] <sandprickle> haloo
[19:37] <oCean> adac: yes, rsyslog
[19:37] <Polah> raluxgaza: You don't need any window manager or desktop environment then. Like I said, using the other six TTYs will give you a plain cli
[19:37] <sandprickle> anybody care to give advice on a grub issue?
[19:38] <sandprickle> or not really a grub issue
[19:38] <Polah> sandprickle: If it's to do with Ubuntu, yes. Although you still might have better luck in #grub
[19:38] <sandprickle> you tell me:
[19:38] <sandprickle> i had Ubuntu installed,
[19:38] <sandprickle> but i had several other partitions set up
[19:38] <oCean> sandprickle: try to describe your issue in single line
[19:38] <freysmarisjtg> buenasss
[19:38] <sandprickle> sorry
[19:39] <sandprickle> I installed Windows XP in the NTFS partition and I think it overwrote grub in the mbr
[19:39] <adac> oCean, is there a difference between syslog and rsynclog?
[19:40] <Pici> sandprickle: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[19:40] <Polah> sandprickle: Boot up from a LiveCD, open up a terminal and do : grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sdX
[19:40] <Polah> sandprickle: Replace the X after sd with the correct device letter
[19:40] <adac> oCean, sorry: syslog and rsyslog
[19:40] <sandprickle> ok. thanks
[19:40] <adac> :)
[19:41] <mangolian> I'm dual booting ubuntu and windows
[19:41] <mangolian> how do I access the data on the partions for windows?
[19:41] <mangolian> while on ubuntu
[19:41] <mangolian> I can get to C
[19:41] <mangolian> but not to E
[19:41] <FloodBot1> mangolian: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:41] <mangolian> (ubuntu is located in E)
[19:41] <mangolian> ok
[19:42] <Pici> mangolian: Did you install using Wubi?
[19:42] <mangolian> yes
[19:42] <oCean> adac: I don't think ubuntu repositories offer package syslog. I'm not sure but I think the old syslog did not have the extended capabilities that rsyslog has.
[19:43] <Pici> mangolian: Then you should be able to see your data in /host/
[19:43] <edwardthefma> hey all
[19:43] <chenthu> is it posible to just install the plasma desktop of kde instead of whole?
[19:43] <Galvatron> mangolian Wubi is not the best idea, ince the requirements of Windows and Linux sum up, as well as it may cause some unusual issues.
[19:43] <adac> oCean,
[19:43] <adac> ps aux | grep syslog
[19:43] <adac> syslog     219  0.0  0.0  12452   804 ?        Ss   Jun22   0:01 /sbin/syslogd -u syslog
[19:44] <adac> I'm on lucid
[19:44] <mangolian> what do you mean the requirements sum up?
[19:44] <mangolian> And thanks Pici  that worked
[19:44] <oCean> adac: right. What's your actual question?
[19:45] <edwardthefma> hello all
[19:45] <SinnerNyx> i need to set up nfs on ubuntu-server. I've never done this before and could use some pointers. I need to set it up so that only 1 computer can access the shared folders.
[19:47] <highline> hello
[19:47] <edbian> highline: hi
[19:47] <edbian> SinnerNyx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[19:49] <adac> oCean, I was just wondering: syslog == rsyslog ?
[19:50] <SinnerNyx> edbian: so I have to set up NIS to restrict the clients?
[19:50] <edbian> SinnerNyx: You can restrict clients by ip address in /etc/exports (or whatever the config file is).
[19:51] <edbian> SinnerNyx: NIS is used to restrict by user
[19:51] <SinnerNyx> edbian: oic. I misread it. Thanks.
[19:51] <edbian> SinnerNyx: sure :)
[19:52] <jiffe> I'm trying to migrate between IPs on 2 different subnets, I have 2 interfaces on the machine, is there anyway I can get both running simultaneously and publicly accessible?
[19:52] <chenthu> guys is Unity worth installing....can you share your experience?
[19:52] <MozoO> i have two directories named "gadmin-s (1)" & "gadmin-s (2)" and I want to 'cd' into the 2nd one. I type "cd gadmin-s " and then when I press TAB i can not go to the 2nd folder? how can I go into it? i think the problem is the space between 's' and '('??????
[19:53]  * edwardthefma is looking for a power pc live disc
[19:53] <edbian> chenthu: I like it.  It's installed in 11.04 by default.
[19:54] <trism> MozoO: either start the tab complete before the space, or escape the space: gadmin-s\ <tab>
[19:54] <townes> having trouble mounting a nikon coolpix camera. it seems to be a fairly common prob but so far I haven't found a solution
[19:54] <ovb> MozoO, try like this: cd gadmin-s\ \(2\)/
[19:54] <ThinkT510> !ppc | edwardthefma
[19:54] <townes> anyone have suggestions?
[19:54] <chenthu> edbian; i know its installed by default in natty...i am jiust in the process o installing i am just wondering whether to install the desktop or not... :)
[19:55] <DanaG> Say, what does it take to get a working libva and xvba-video on Natty?
[19:55] <chenthu> edbian : what are the '+' and  '-' you would recomend?
[19:55] <DanaG> I've installed the upstream libva1 and xvba-video, but vainfo reports xfree-dri missing.
[19:55] <DanaG> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[19:55] <Jezebel> o.o
[19:56] <townes> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 04b0:0181 Nikon Corp.
[19:56] <MozoO> ovb:  :D thanks.. It works :P ;)
[19:56] <townes> lsusb knows the cam is connected
[19:56] <ovb> MozoO, cheers!
[19:56] <townes> however nothing is mounted
[19:56] <edbian> chenthu: Well the + is that it looks nice and actually considered that my screen is not 768 pixels high.  The - is that there is no window list applet (so you can't see what programs are running).
[19:57] <chenthu> edbian : thank you for sharing your opinion, is it worth a replacement for kde or gnome?
[19:57] <edbian> chenthu: Depends on the form factor IMO
[19:57] <edbian> chenthu: For a netbook YES
[19:58] <ThinkT510> chenthu: only you can decide whether it is suitable for you
[19:58] <chenthu> edbian: for a laptop
[19:58] <edbian> chenthu: eh, then I'd probably go classic ubuntu
[19:58] <townes> so yeah.....digital camera.....lsusb sees its......but....it's not mounted
[19:58] <chenthu> ThinkT510: yeah but never used it so i asked... :)
[19:58] <edbian> ThinkT510: Only you can prevent unity.
[19:58] <townes> or rather I can't get to it
[19:58] <TameableExpert_> lols
[19:59] <edbian> townes: Does it show up in the output of sudo fdisk -l ?
[19:59] <edbian> TameableExpert_: lulz
[19:59] <TameableExpert_> nice one edbian
[19:59] <TameableExpert_> New favorite quote
[19:59] <townes> im not sure edbian.....it really doesn't look like it to me
[19:59] <townes> I have sda 1 through 6
[19:59] <townes> none of them look like a cam
[19:59] <chenthu> edbian:thank u...i'll try if i dont like it i could always switch... :)
[19:59] <Galvatron> chenthu: Unity is very much like Mac OS X, with the most visible difference being the placement of the dock.
[20:00] <townes> one says HPFS/NTFS, other is extended, then Linux, then Linux swap
[20:00] <chenthu> Galvatron: Oh My I hate macbook
[20:00] <townes> to be honest I'm not sure if its showing up w/ fdisk but nothing sticks out to me there
[20:00] <Galvatron> chenthu: Why? OSX is just like Ubuntu with Compiz.
[20:01] <TameableExpert_> OSX is like ubuntu...
[20:01] <edbian> townes: mess with the settings on the camera until you get it into MSC mode (instead of MTP) then it will show up in fdisk.
[20:01] <TameableExpert_> but I would choose the GNOME Desktop anyday
[20:01] <townes> edbian, k
[20:01] <edbian> townes: fdisk lists attached storage devices.  hdd's usb drives, comeras...
[20:02] <townes> right, just none of those stuck out to me as being the cam
[20:02] <chenthu> Galvatron: Yeah But i dont know...i hate it...
[20:02] <edbian> townes: pasetbin it paste.ubuntu.com  for me to see
[20:03] <chenthu> TameableExpert: Reason?
[20:03] <Galvatron> chenthu: Getting back to Unity - in my personal opinion Gnome + Cairo Dock is a better choice, since Cairo itself is way better than the thing in Unity.
[20:03] <jiffe> if I have 2 interfaces on different subnets, IFa and IFb, and the default gateway is on IFa, if a packet comes in on IFb from a non-local subnet, should the response to the packet be sent out IFa?
[20:04] <TameableExpert_> chenthu: I feel alot more comfortable with it. And with Unity... I disliked not being able to see my windows open at the bottom...
[20:04] <chenthu> Galvatron: hmmm.....
[20:04] <oslinux23> hello
[20:04] <TameableExpert_> I did like the Unitys search feature though
[20:04] <jiffe> I have this situation right now where I am pinging the IP on IFb from an outside source and I don't see a response on any interface
[20:04] <chenthu> Taemableexpert: yeah that would be a problem for me as well
[20:04] <townes> edbian, I will once I figure out how to change the modes
[20:04] <Galvatron> chenthu: GNOME can be easily customized into Unity/OSX
[20:04] <townes> I don't see it in options
[20:04] <TameableExpert_> it drove me insane.
[20:05] <edbian> townes: sure
[20:05] <TameableExpert_> chenthu: plus they messed with the format of the workspaces...
[20:05] <oslinux23> I found the driver's source of  a TV tuner, what I should do next ?
[20:05] <edbian> townes: Not every camera has the option, just most.  If it does not then I don't know how to fix it.
[20:05] <chenthu> Galvatron: but something in me says i would go for KDE
[20:06] <townes> edbian, I'm thinking ti doesn't. nothing comes up on google for my model and those options
[20:06] <edbian> townes: aww :(
[20:06] <townes> hehe
[20:06] <Galvatron> chenthu: I'm yet to test KDE 4.7, but the 4.6.x line was a complete bloatware, with initial memory usage easily exceeding 500MB
[20:06] <chenthu> TameableExpert: I already am installing it now...will check and then decide...messing work spaces...now i am getting a lot of negatives that i wouold care
[20:06] <townes> edbian, at least lsusb shows it, that's a start
[20:07] <TameableExpert_> chenthu: They place the workspaces in a 2 x 2 zone... and I didn't see an option to add more or swap how they were areanged.
[20:07] <chenthu> Galvatron: Wow thats toomuch
[20:08] <akash_> I was upgrading 10.04 to 11.04 on my laptop..  at the final step of installation (1 min left) I am getting a blank screen with just the pointer visible and continous HDD activity
[20:08] <akash_> I am unable to move the pointer
[20:08] <Galvatron> chenthu: Also GNOME can look as good, with things like Murrine RGBA engine
[20:08] <akash_> any idea on what I should do now?
[20:08] <TameableExpert_> chenthu: murrine?
[20:08] <abuchbinder> I have a bug I filed on Pidgin, but I think the core dump has my IM password and such in it. How can I make the core dump private, but the bug report public?
[20:08] <abuchbinder> It's bug 817119.
[20:08] <TameableExpert_> chenthu: I shall google it
[20:08] <Galvatron> chenthu:And in the terms of funcionality, a difference is like 10%
[20:09] <SinnerNyx> for nfs: The SettingUpNFSHowTo page states: "With NFS, a user's access to files is determined by his/her membership of groups on the client, not on the server." The intended client in this case is a windows machine. How does this translate? I really want the files to be accessible to anyone on the machine with a specific network IP.
[20:09] <chenthu> TeamableExpert: Glavatron: ahhh...now i am getting the reps for Gnome..should have chosen it better...but i just have to trry
[20:09] <Galvatron> chenthu: GNOME and KDE are pretty much on par in every single aspect.
[20:09] <chenthu> TeamableExpert: i never heared of murrine it too...
[20:09] <edbian> SinnerNyx: NFS does not support windows.  You must use smaba
[20:09] <edbian> samba*
[20:10] <edbian> SinnerNyx: Which also confuses me in the same question :P
[20:10] <TameableExpert_> chenthu: i am looking it up... it may be as cood as Compiz
[20:10] <chenthu> Galvatron: i was rading on abt gnome and kde but still couldnt make up my mind
[20:10] <psichas> do you like dancee sambo? :D
[20:10] <chenthu> TeameableExpert: ok
[20:10] <akash_> I was upgrading 10.04 to 11.04 on my laptop..  at the final step of installation (1 min left) I am getting a blank screen with just the pointer visible and continous HDD activity
[20:10] <chenthu> Galvatron: What would you prefer?...and why?
[20:10] <akash_> any idea on what I should do now?
[20:11] <chenthu> akash: could be display graphics iussue
[20:11] <akash_> chenthu, SHould I try a hard restart? or leave it as it is?
[20:11] <TameableExpert_> chenthu: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42755
[20:11] <Galvatron> chenthu: To me, KDE uses too much resources, compared to what it offers (just like Windows it tries to be like). Also, Compiz is still much better than Kwin.
[20:11] <chenthu> akash: press ctrl+alt+f2 and go in command prompt then search in ubuntuforums
[20:12] <akash_> its a lenovo R61 with intel integrated graphics
[20:12] <chenthu> TameableExpert; tq looking at it
[20:12] <Galvatron> chenthu: GNOME can do as fine, but on a much lower resource cost (pure GNOME takes like 200-250MB of RAM)
[20:13] <chenthu> Galvatron : Thats a wonderful point...will consider...
[20:13] <akash_> chenthu, ctrl+alt+f2 doesnt do anything .. I have a mouse pointer and a non blinking input prompt
[20:13] <plasmoidia> Anyone have any experience with PLX PCI bridge chips?
[20:13] <abuchbinder> Hi, all. I have a bug I filed on Pidgin, but I think the core dump has my IM password and such in it. How can I make the core dump private, but the bug report public?
[20:13] <chenthu> akash: ctrl +alt+f1
[20:14] <Galvatron> chenthu: With customization, GNOME can look perfectly like Windows 7 (Win2-7 pack) or OSX (Macbuntu pack from gnome-look.org)
[20:14] <akash_> chenthu, that doesnt work either (even caps lock isnt responding)
[20:14] <chenthu> akash: reboot
[20:14] <TameableExpert_> galvatron: lol... I tried to get away from windows... :P
[20:14] <chenthu> galvatron: hmmm...
[20:15] <edbian> Galvatron: I like it to look like Linux :)
[20:15] <chenthu> TeamableExpert: jiust looked at it...nice and wonderful
[20:15] <chenthu> TameableExpert: wht abt performance for murrine
[20:16] <TameableExpert_> chenthu: It is too much like windows vista and 7 for me... I like the default look of GNOME...
[20:16] <chenthu> galvatron: windows makes me lazy
[20:16] <chenthu> TameableExpert: I like the default look of KDE
[20:16] <townes> well this is down right frustrating
[20:17] <TameableExpert_> chenthu: I am not too sure about the performance of Murrine...
[20:17] <phnom> I am on Natty, fresh install, and I can't get vga_switcheroo to work. I tried modeset=1 as it says in the community docs but no dice. Any tips?
[20:17] <jen__> I have a moronic question
[20:17] <jen__> why is the power button on the top right hand corner for ubuntu red instead of white?
[20:18] <TameableExpert_> you need to reboot
[20:18] <Galvatron> chenthu: This thing looks as good as KDE: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Win2-7+Pack?content=113264 Just a bit of customizing to make it mor Linux-like.
[20:18] <TameableExpert_> you just installed updates... right?
[20:18] <Pici> !who
[20:18] <jen__> oh yes am installing
[20:18] <TameableExpert_> ok... wait for updates to finish then restart
[20:18] <jen__> oh ok
[20:18] <jen__> and if I dont?
[20:18] <TameableExpert_> (mine is red too...)
[20:18] <jen__> TameableExpert_,
[20:19] <TameableExpert_> then the update will not take effect till you do a reboot
[20:19] <jen__> ok thanks :D got that dumb question solved
[20:19] <TameableExpert_> np
[20:19] <jen__> oh I dont think its important
[20:19] <Galvatron> chenthu: Also, I recommend checking out and trying GNOME3 - this thing is pretty good, especially the virtual desktop management.
[20:19]  * TameableExpert_ AFK
[20:20] <townes> "Bus 001 Device 010: ID 04b0:0181 Nikon Corp."
[20:20] <chenthu> Galvatron: thats nice...the default purple on ubuntu sucks lol...i know i can change it but still....purple default?
[20:20] <townes> lsusb knows its connected. fdisk doesn't.
[20:20] <plasmoidia> I'm having trouble with a PLX-based PCI card on the 10.04 LTS (Lucid) release
[20:20] <Galvatron> chenthu: You can change everything
[20:20] <chilversc> in chromium, anyone know how to make clicking the middle mouse button scroll?
[20:21] <chenthu> TeamableEXpert: its gnome so must have a good performance....thats what i would expect :-P
[20:21] <TameableExpert_> ok
[20:21] <chenthu> Galvatron: Yeah..thats the spirit of linux
[20:21] <v0lt> hi i can't login to ubuntu after changing the video adapter from nvidia to ATI is there a way to fix this ? i load command line tool
[20:21] <abuchbinder> Is there another channel I should look in for help with launchpad?
[20:21] <chenthu> Galvatron: is there wa way to just make our own distro?
[20:22] <v0lt> it load the video adapter
[20:22] <rww> abuchbinder: #launchpad
[20:22] <abuchbinder> Right; already there. Thanks.
[20:22] <v0lt> it load the command line interface
[20:22] <astraljava> v0lt: Check if you have a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf, it might have configurations for the old card. If you remove it, ubuntu should autodetect your current setup, and configure it on-the-fly.
[20:23] <SinnerNyx> ok so i uninstalled nfs and am now installing samba
[20:23] <SinnerNyx> can I limit the samba service to only allow a particular network IP address to connect to it?
[20:23] <chenthu> Galvatron: not easy?
[20:23] <v0lt> astraljava: how do i remove it
[20:24] <v0lt> sorry 4 bad english
[20:24] <astraljava> v0lt: For instance `sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_nvidia`
[20:24] <astraljava> v0lt: Quite alright. :)
[20:25] <townes> anyone have probs getting their cam to work in ubuntu? (digital camera, nikon)
[20:25] <v0lt> astraljava: then it will load correctly ? after doning this ?
[20:25] <astraljava> v0lt: You might need to reboot, or simply issue `sudo service gdm restart`, but reboot is simple and safe.
[20:26] <amalgameate> exit
[20:26] <v0lt>  astraljava ok i'll  try it now
[20:26] <delta16> hey guy's
[20:26] <v0lt> thank you
[20:26] <astraljava> v0lt: No prob, hope it helps.
[20:26] <delta16> got a problem with my audio on my Aspire one D260
[20:27] <delta16> it has a intel hda
[20:27] <TameableExpert_> delta: whats the issue
[20:27] <delta16> i had audio but i broke it !! :S
[20:27] <townes> lol where are my camera fiends
[20:28] <delta16> wel i think the alsa is not loading the corect driver : snd-hda-intel
[20:28] <akash_> chenthu, I rebooted, GRUB looks different now (its 1.99~rc1-13ubuntu3)  when I try to boot into ubuntu, I get the desktop, but the touchpad doesnt boot. ctrl+alt+f1 and ctrl+alt+f2 lead to a blank screen
[20:28] <edbian> townes: yo
[20:28] <townes> edbian, still no luck
[20:28] <edbian> townes: This is news?
[20:28] <townes> oh absolutely
[20:28] <townes> lol
[20:28] <delta16> whe i do an alsa force reload , it sais that alsa has nothing to realod
[20:28] <chenthu> boot in recovery mode
[20:29] <townes> edbian, sorry mate it's just bugging me
[20:29] <astraljava> delta16: If there's no-one here who knows what's going on, you can always check the documentation:
[20:29] <astraljava> !intelhda > delta16
[20:29] <townes> and I am googling and googling
[20:30] <edbian> townes: ha, sorry to hear that. pastebin sudo fdisk -l for me?
[20:30] <townes> alright one moment
[20:30] <delta16> i checked the whole documtentation and goolged for houres
[20:30] <akash_> chenthu, recovery mode is displaying "loading Linux 2.6.38-10-generic-pae ..." with no HDD activity
[20:30] <delta16> i even had to recompile and install alsa driver
[20:30] <gabriel_> hola
[20:30] <astraljava> delta16: Okay, sorry I can't help you further. :( Keep asking every once in a while, and you can also try askubuntu.com
[20:31] <chenthu> akash:wait for some time and tell me...whats the result
[20:31] <townes> edbian, http://pastebin.com/aT463RUw for your viewing pleasure
[20:31] <edbian> reading...
[20:32] <edbian> townes: It ain't there.  This is an old machine!  20Gb!!! :(
[20:32] <townes> I know, I know
[20:32] <townes> but lsusb shows it
[20:32] <townes> edbian, but feel free to laugh at my ancient machine hehe I don't mind
[20:32] <edbian> townes: That just means it connected.  Not that it's mountable storage device
[20:32] <townes> oh
[20:32] <townes> I can't give up on this!
[20:32] <AlanKey> ho does anyone know how i can use iso images in ubuntu 11.04?
[20:33] <edbian> AlanKey: You wanna use them?
[20:33] <Pici> townes: This is a big if, but you might look to see if gphoto2 and its gui tool can see the camera.
[20:33] <townes> Pici, okay
[20:33] <townes> Pici, I'm skeptical though from googling....but I will try
[20:34] <akash> chenthu, even the cursor isnt blinking , no HDD activity, no significant processor activity (it isnt getting warmer)  expected?
[20:34] <ThinkT510> !iso | AlanKey
[20:34] <craigbass1976> I'm having a bad time of it trying to get moonlight up and running with chromium in lucid.  Any ideas on which trees to bark up?
[20:35] <technicos> hi all
[20:35] <edbian> technicos: hello
[20:35] <technicos> to remove unity, shall i simply remove the package in the soft manager?
[20:35] <chenthu> akash: nope...this is bad...i am not sure whats happening....casue u should be able to atleast go into a comand line
[20:36] <ssfdre38> when will kernel 3.0 be set up for update on 11.04
[20:36] <edbian> technicos: I'm not sure how to remove it.  I know you can log into ubuntu classic.  Log out, click your name, change the session, log in.
[20:36] <edbian> ssfdre38: It will be used in 11.10
[20:36] <Pici> ssfdre38: Never. You'll see it in 11.10 though.
[20:36] <edbian> Pici: I win :P
[20:37] <ssfdre38> so if i want to use it on 11.04 i should update it myself
[20:37] <akash> chenthu, when I booted into windows. it displayed a "windows crashed" message and took an unusually long time to boot. is that related in any way?  (its a dual boot setup with win 7)
[20:37] <edbian> ssfdre38: yes
[20:37] <oops> when you download some software, extract it, where's the .exe file? I cant launch software. pls excuse my appalling rubbish noobyness\
[20:37] <chenthu> Akash: could be...u mighht have messed up the mbr..
[20:38] <edbian> akash: It's probably freaked because the partition size changed.  Additionally you may have hard reset in the early stages of windows
[20:38] <edbian> oops: We do not have .exe's in linux! :)
[20:38] <technicos> Technicus lol
[20:38] <chenthu> oops: no exe file here as in windows
[20:38] <oops> what the equivalent? thx
[20:38] <odn> hello
[20:38] <maco> oops: no file extension is needed
[20:38] <Technicus> technicos: HEY!
[20:38] <edbian> oops: Depends on where you downloaded it from / what format the software was packaged.  Why aren't you using the package manager?
[20:38] <edbian> odn: hello
[20:38] <odn> :)
[20:38] <oops> so how do you launch the software? I couldnt work out which file to use
[20:38] <townes> Pici, is f-spot a frontend for gphoto??
[20:39] <chenthu> oops: depends in the distro, build and type
[20:39] <edbian> oops: ./path/to/file/
[20:39] <townes> the readme seems to imply that but I didn't think it was
[20:39] <edbian> oops: Or double click the correct file
[20:39] <oops> package manager...
[20:39] <akash> chenthu, I was able to boot into the recovery mode of the oldest version of ubuntu on the system.. what should I do now? (I have a pink screen with a menu listing resume,clean,dpkg,failsafeX,etc..)
[20:39] <edbian> oops: the package manager, ubuntu software center, synaptic, apt-get...
[20:39] <maco> oops: have you come across the Ubuntu Software Center yet?
[20:39] <odn> does someone knows the name of the ubuntu coman-line installer and the package it's in ? (he alternate installer)
[20:39] <odn> the*
[20:39] <Pici> townes: I was thinking of using gtkam
[20:39] <oops> nope, not software centre or package manager
[20:39] <townes> okay
[20:39] <Technicus> Hello . . . how can Ubuntu be setup for internet connection sharing via broadcasting a wifi and by connecting through ethernet?
[20:39] <Pici> townes: I'm not sure if f-spot uses gphoto or not.
[20:40] <TBotNik> All:  Still trying to fix my remote network.  Forum write up at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1804424&page=3  Hope we can whip this today.  Thanks!
[20:40] <oops> or I can uise the command line?
[20:40] <chenthu> akash: try failsafe
[20:40] <ThinkT510> !manual | oops
[20:40] <oops> :)) thx
[20:40] <edbian> oops: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/add-applications/C/add-applications-introduction.html
[20:40] <townes> Pici, for some reason i don't think it does, the readme file for gphoto seemed to imply it
[20:40] <edbian> oops: My link is specifically about package managers
[20:40] <technicos> edbian : should be ok, i sat off unity and installed gnome, ill see whats happening
[20:40] <edbian> technicos: sat off?
[20:40] <townes> dling gtkam now
[20:40] <townes> pray for me br
[20:40] <townes> bro*
[20:40] <townes> =/
[20:40] <step2> edbian, he's using 8.04?
[20:41] <edbian> step2: No but that's the newest guide
[20:41] <akash> chenthu, IT seems to be working fine now.. (in the recovery mode)
[20:41] <step2> oh ...
[20:41] <edbian> step2: It talks about package managers, not really specific to 10.04
[20:41] <jiffe> is there anyway to create separate routing tables in /etc/network/interfaces for each interface?  I'm trying to use the `up` indicator but I'm getting a syntax error, although it works fine from command line
[20:42] <chenthu> akash: i think u better find the right display driver
[20:42] <oops> thankyou edbian
[20:42] <Technicus> MUGGS!
[20:42] <chenthu> akash: or other driver
[20:42] <edbian> oops: sure
[20:43] <TBotNik> All: Got back to having IPs on LAN via dhcp3-server, but can not ping hard address or names.  Had hard addresses working before, but on new install now.
[20:43] <v0lt> astraljava, it works thanks man :D
[20:44] <Technicus> How can Ubuntu be setup for multiple pointers . . . say separate onscreenn pointers for two separate mice and keyboard combinations?
[20:45] <Monotoko> Technicus, interesting and unique question...do you have two monitors as well?
[20:45] <DARKGuy_> hey, I'm trying to share a folder using samba (server edition) but the client can't create folders or edit files, it says Access Denied. Folder has read only = no and browseable = yes, so, wtf?
[20:46] <Technicus> Monotoko: Well was not thinking about that . . . but it seems to add a dimension.
[20:46] <blackswan> hi. natty evolution, exchange 2003 server, suddenly i can't see any of my contacts any more. outlook web access can still see them. ideas?
[20:46] <townes> Pici, I love you
[20:46] <Monotoko> DARKGuy_, have you actually given the folder write permissions in SAMBA? Not sure how you would do it in the server edition but I'm sure someone else does :)
[20:47] <townes> edbian, thank you as ewll
[20:47] <townes> well*
[20:47] <townes> Pici, but it worked!!!
[20:47] <Monotoko> Technicus, I see a lot of questions repeat themselves...never seen or thought about that, let me have a look...
[20:47] <edbian> DARKGuy_: just as a test: sudo chmod -R 777 /path/to/folder/
[20:47] <DARKGuy_> Monotoko, I think so :/
[20:47] <edbian> townes: yay :)
[20:47] <Pici> townes: Wow! Great!
[20:47] <edbian> Pici: good guess
[20:47] <DARKGuy_> edbian, yeah but 777 makes *everything* executable and I need to preserve the non-x bit sometimes
[20:47] <townes> :) thanks guys
[20:48] <edbian> DARKGuy_: Yes, it is just a quick test to see if permissions are the issue
[20:48] <DARKGuy_> oh, okay
[20:48] <Monotoko> DARKGuy_, try: guest ok = yes
[20:48] <edbian> DARKGuy_: You need execution to view a folder
[20:48] <Technicus> Monotoko:  Ok . . . thanks.
[20:49] <akash> chenthu, Ok, after some more trial and error, Ubuntu seems to be stuck in a partial upgraded state for me. The oldest kernel boots to GNOME, 2.6.35-30 boots to UNity , while the latest one ( 2.6.38-10 ) doesnt work(boots to GNOME desktop, but with non functional mouse, ctrl+alt+f2 gives a blank screen and hangs it)  1st 2 show the correct version of 11.04
[20:49] <akash> IS it still likely to be a video driver issue?
[20:50] <DARKGuy_> Monotoko, edbian: guest ok = yes does nothing, restarting the samba service says it's ignoring such parameter because it's unrecognized, and with a test folder, changing it to 777 worked, but then again that's not the case for me
[20:50] <edbian> DARKGuy_: not the case for you?
[20:50] <chenthu> Akash: Natty is highly messed up...the most probs i faced was display issues
[20:50] <Monotoko> Technicus, as far as I can work out theres a program called TeamPlayer...you might want to look here for more info: http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=two+mice+one+computer+linux&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk (I know..two mice one computer...lol!)
[20:50] <DARKGuy_> edbian, nope because I need to preserve the permissions, not give everything 777
[20:50] <Monotoko> the articles seem a bit outdated though
[20:51] <edbian> DARKGuy_: try 770
[20:51] <chenthu> akash: back up and go for a clean 10.04 install
[20:51] <akash> chenthu, ok, I'll do that
[20:51] <edbian> DARKGuy_: or 771  and then try settings samba's user as the group and give group 7
[20:52] <chenthu> akash :)
[20:52] <akash> chenthu, should I backup windows data as well? (same physical drive)
[20:52] <DARKGuy_> edbian, 770-771 doesn't allow to browse it
[20:52] <edbian> DARKGuy_: make samba's group the group owner
[20:52] <chenthu> akash: i dont think so...but the problem is...i havent seen the actual scenario so i could be wrong....if u really have something that is invaluable then better back up...even in windows...
[20:52] <DARKGuy_> edbian, okay, how do I do that?
[20:52] <edbian> DARKGuy_: (we almost def want 771 or 775
[20:53] <DARKGuy_> I don't know how to manage groups very well
[20:53] <edbian> DARKGuy_: sudo chown _R root:<samba'suser> /path/to/folder
[20:53] <Technicus> Monotoko: I shall continue the investigation.
[20:53] <chenthu> akash: what is your sys config?
[20:53] <edbian> DARKGuy_: IDK samba's group or if the current owner is root
[20:53] <edbian> DARKGuy_: but I'm guessing it is root
[20:53] <Monotoko> Technicus, sorry I couldn't help you more...but if you get something working, let me know :)
[20:53] <akash> chenthu, Lenovo R61 with C2D 1.8GHz , 4GB RAM, Intel integrated graphics
[20:54] <chenthu> akash: intel graphics should work...hmmm....
[20:54] <Technicus> Monotoko: Indeed.
[20:54] <chenthu> akash: but u back up imporatant data then can experiment
[20:54] <DARKGuy_> edbian, hmn, but I don't have any samba user created, I have it (and want) anonymous
[20:54] <akash> chenthu, would it cause issues if I keep using 2.6.35 with unity?  can I make it the default in GRUB?
[20:55] <DARKGuy_> edbian, there's a "sambashare" group with me on it
[20:55] <chenthu> akash: as long as this one works...just make it default.....as soon as can get in back up everything
[20:55] <edbian> DARKGuy_: samba has a user that it users to do stuff on the system.  (because it doesn't run as you).  all the windows / linux users that access this folder will appear to be 'samba user'
[20:55] <chenthu> akash; did u try nomodeset in the boot o[ptions?
[20:55] <edbian> DARKGuy_: pastebin /etc/passwd and /etc/group and I will be able to tell what samba group you need to set that file too.
[20:55] <edbian> Get it?
[20:56] <bynw> Hi, the folders in the ~ dirctory have special icons from other folders. how to i use those same icons for folders elsewhere?
[20:56] <akash> chenthu, ok..   can you tell me how to make it default?  (I dont know what nomodeset is )
[20:56] <edbian> DARKGuy_: paste.ubuntu.com
[20:56] <TBotNik> Who knows about dns-nameservers?
[20:57] <DARKGuy_> edbian, http://paste.ubuntu.com/653360/
[20:57] <AaronDCampbell> Is there a log that shows what packages were recently updated?
[20:58] <AaronDCampbell> I use Update Manager in Gnome for all my updates if that makes a difference
[20:58] <rww> AaronDCampbell: look into /var/log/dpkg.log and /var/log/apt/*
[20:59] <edbian> DARKGuy_: sudo chown -R root:sambashare /path/to/folder
[20:59] <edbian> DARKGuy_: then make it 775 or somethin'
[20:59] <chenthu> akash: u can do that by either going into windows or through ubuntu...or using a software easybcd....available for both... nomodet disables the default driver ...
[20:59] <oops> am I having problems cos I'm in ubuntu 7.1? nothing seems to work...
[20:59] <edbian> oops: 7.10 ???  That's from 2007
[20:59] <DARKGuy_> edbian, nah, it doesn't work with <777
[21:00] <prathamb> .
[21:00] <rww> !eol | oops
[21:00] <edbian> DARKGuy_: I thought it did work with 777?
[21:00] <edbian> DARKGuy_: What are you talking about?
[21:00] <AaronDCampbell> rww: Thanks.  I rebooted (after having not done that for a little while) and everything looks graphically different (all icons in panel, etc) so I was wondering what upgrade did that
[21:00] <Polah> AaronDCampbell, /var/log/apt/history.log should show recent changes from apt.
[21:00] <oops> I just had the cd kicking around whn windoze died
[21:00] <DARKGuy_> edbian, yeah it works with 777, but not with less
[21:00] <DARKGuy_> edbian, the chown did no effect
[21:00] <edbian> DARKGuy_: It should with with 775 if you change the group
[21:00] <oops> to update it without installing i need to download the latest version and make a new cd.. right?
[21:00] <edbian> DARKGuy_: Did it change the owner and group?
[21:00] <chenthu> akash: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_do_I_make_Ubuntu_the_default_boot_option.3F
[21:00] <DARKGuy_> edbian, now it says root   sambashare
[21:01] <DARKGuy_> edbian, yes I typed your command :P
[21:01] <edbian> DARKGuy_: But you still can't access it?
[21:01] <akash> chenthu, I'm not using Wubi .. its a native dusl boot install
[21:01] <akash> *dual
[21:01] <DARKGuy_> edbian, that's correct
[21:01] <oops> Ive got the partitions ready, i wanted a dula boot, but couldnt manage it on my own. i dont want to install ubuntu fully now as I really need to repai wondoze first and get my info off from there
[21:01] <edbian> DARKGuy_: Well there are no other samba user's or groups so I have no idea.
[21:02] <edbian> DARKGuy_: I reboot may help.
[21:02] <DARKGuy_> edbian, oh well, it's okay u.u
[21:02] <DARKGuy_> hmn
[21:02] <DARKGuy_> I haven't rebooted yet...
[21:02] <DARKGuy_> :P
[21:02] <edbian> http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/filepermissions.html
[21:02] <chenthu> akash: i dint mention wubi too
[21:02] <AaronDCampbell> Polah and rww: Thanks.  Looks like I got libqtcore4 since my last reboot...so that explains it.
[21:02] <CLF1> need help fixing samba4...broken and cannot repair broken package....what should I do
[21:02] <chenthu> u better download Easybcd and install in windows then u can use to select default
[21:03] <djskidd> GUYS, STORY TIME
[21:03] <djskidd> So my friend was at summer school today
[21:03] <chenthu> akash: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=517513
[21:04] <oCean> djskidd: wrong channel
[21:04] <djskidd> Yi.
[21:05] <bynw> Hi, the folders in the ~ directory have special icons from other folders. how to i use those same icons for folders elsewhere?
[21:05] <kubanc> anyone ever tried to connect hdd 2.5 inch disk via USB to SATA & PATA Combo Bridge
[21:06] <chenthu> akash: i think your desktop is corrupted...
[21:06] <prathamb> .
[21:06] <Guest42318> anyone here know why a Drive would be telling me that my dvd is blank when I know there is data on it?
[21:06] <chenthu> akash:better backup and reinstall
[21:06] <akash> chenthu, I think I'll do that only.. this is getting too complex
[21:06] <chenthu> Guest42318: Ur dvd drive is not working or dvd is corrupted
[21:07] <chenthu> akash: complex but u can learn
[21:07] <duckx0r> I updated to the latest kernel using kernelcheck and I get an error when trying to reinstall my ATI drivers. http://pastebin.com/R5m46iH1 Does anyone know how I can fix this? Do I need to recompile the kernel with some sort of missing support?
[21:07] <chenthu> akash:if u had this system infront of me i would help u really bro...i am sorry. that i cannot help u much on this ....
[21:07] <akash> thats fine.. thanks for the help
[21:08] <CLF1> can you help me fix my samba4 that seems to be corrupt...it won't repair
[21:09] <LinuxMan> gu
[21:09] <LinuxMan> hi
[21:09] <carandraug> hi! very simple question with irssi? How do I exit? I can't find it on the documentation. A search for exit, close or quit returns nothing. And there's also nothing on the man page
[21:09] <TBotNik> I would if a simple Q, but not that.  As I stated, in my writeup, got IPs on LAN via eth0 (local remote network) coming from dhcp3-server, but can not ping hard addresses or names.  I ping fine on this box that bridges them via wlan0 (the internet connect) so either a bridging issue or dns-nameserver issue.  Trying to debug.  Can you help?
[21:09] <acovrig> is it possible to boot an encrypted lvm-ext4 partition without a password-using a keyfile on a fat32 partition?
[21:09] <prathamb> some c++ codes wont work in linux
[21:10] <Guest42318> I've googled "Dvd drive doesn't work", "Won't read DVDs" , etc... and I haven't ran across anything relevant to this situation. It likes to bring up stuff about burning dvds, or how I should use Windows to record a DVD
[21:10] <prathamb> is ther a good c++ compiler for linux??
[21:10] <Guest42318> g++
[21:10] <Guest42318> comes installed
[21:10] <prathamb> i get lot of errors
[21:10] <Guest42318> or NetBeans, or CodeLite
[21:10] <kubanc> is this a good command to mount disk.... sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/ps3
[21:10] <Guest42318> I use both of those
[21:11] <wildbat> TBotNik:  you done with DCHP-servevr? ~ so you mean LAN side can't ping WAN ~ or can't ping your router box?
[21:11] <Guest42318> NetBeans reminds me a lot of the Microsoft Visual Studio IDE
[21:11] <ThinkT510> kubanc: as long as the divice and the directories exist then yes
[21:12] <TBotNik> wildbat U-box is the router.
[21:12] <wildbat> TBotNik: you know there are packages that can setup your box just a professional router ,  check e-box
[21:13] <wildbat> TBotNik: that what i mean. can you LAN side PC ping the router box LAN ip/ WAN ip?
[21:13] <Guest42318> to PM someone you do use "/msg" without quotes correct? Been a while since I have used this IRC client
[21:13] <Polah> kubanc: Yes, looks fine to me.
[21:13] <Reikoku> Guest42318: Yes
[21:13] <jeremym> we are using a very old version of ubuntu...version 8.04.  I need to upgrade GCC to at least 4.2.4.  According to http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/gcc-4.2/download it is there.
[21:14] <jeremym> however when i do apt-get update gcc it says im using the newest version.  I know im not
[21:14] <jeremym> gcc version 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7)
[21:14] <jeremym> thats the version thats installed...any ideas why i cant update htat package with apt-get
[21:14] <Reikoku> jeremym: Need a dist-upgrade probably
[21:14] <Reikoku> Old servers arent all maintained
[21:14] <jeremym> thats what i was afraid someone would say haha
[21:14] <chenthu> is there a way i can download gnome 3 seperately and then install on ubuntu?
[21:15] <kubanc> Polah, it's the PS3 hdd disk, so i don't know which filesystem type to use, and it looks like ubuntu also doesn't know, because it's asking me for mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[21:15] <step2> jeremym, do apt-get upgrade gcc-4.2 ?
[21:15] <TBotNik> All: Wait a minute, I just did new install and may have forgot install of bridgin utils, BRB checking!
[21:15] <ThinkT510> !gnome3 | chenthu
[21:15] <Reikoku> chenthu: Is apt-get not working?
[21:15] <jeremym> step2, if i do that it wants to upgrade the OS
[21:16] <Reikoku> jeremym: Grab gcc sources and compile?
[21:16] <jeremym> well thats always an option...but according to ubuntus site there is a debian package for it in the security repo
[21:16] <jeremym> however i dont see it
[21:16] <step2> mmmh. do you only have oldish sources in package sources? or new ones too?
[21:16] <trism> jeremym: apt-get install gcc-4.2; will just update that individual package if necessary, and any other packages needed by it
[21:17] <martin_tsc> how can I run a script as su?
[21:17] <naptastic> Alright, I've purged all traces of my custom kernel and the modifications I tried to make to fglrx, I purged the entire OpenGL / Mesa stack, cleared my apt cache, then reinstalled everything, apt-get installed fglrx, which reported no errors, and 3D apps **STILL** segfault on start. WTF?!
[21:17] <chenthu> ThibnkT510: thanks
[21:17] <jeremym> that worked trism.  Thank you very much
[21:17] <naptastic> martin_tsc, sudo ./script-name?
[21:17] <step2> jeremym, maybe the new gcc really depends on lots of other packages that have to be updated, doesn't mean os is update even if it seems a lot
[21:17] <chenthu> Reikoku: i am not connected to net .... :)
[21:18] <Reikoku> chenthu: Apparently it's going to break everything, but you could grab sources from gnome3 site if you dont mind
[21:18] <TBotNik> K bridging utils missing, so installing, will take a while.
[21:18] <martin_tsc> naptastic, doesnt work, needs to be done as root via sudo su, but how can I put this in the script to run with cron?
[21:18] <ThinkT510> chenthu: 11.10 should have proper support for gnome3
[21:18] <Polah> kubanc: I believe the PS3 uses FAT32. Try sudo mount -t fat32 /dev/sdb /media/ps3
[21:19] <chenthu> reikoku..yeah but i would better stick with the previous version lol
[21:19] <kubanc> Polah, if it was using fat32 then the windows XP OS would recognized it, but it didn't
[21:19] <chenthu> ThinkT510: when is 11.10 releasing?
[21:20] <ThinkT510> chenthu: the clue is in the name
[21:20] <Polah> kubanc: I just recall something about FAT32 and PS3. Perhaps look up mounting PS3 drives on ubuntu
[21:20] <edwardthefma> hey who knows any thing about ubuntu and mac
[21:20] <rww> chenthu: October
[21:20] <chenthu> lol'
[21:20] <chenthu> ok
[21:20] <rww> chenthu: (Ubuntu version numbers are year.month)
[21:20] <edwardthefma> i need a person not the wiki
[21:20] <chenthu> rww: oh ok thanks for the info
[21:20] <Reikoku> chenthu: You can grab a beta version
[21:20] <ra21vi> hi, I am not able to install Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit on Dell XPS 15z. Any help would be appreciated.
[21:21] <Polah> ra21vi: Specifics on why you can't install it or what happens when you try would be good.
[21:21] <chenthu> reikoku: yeah but natty is in itself buggy....how abt a beeta?
[21:21] <martin_tsc> is there some line/code I can add to a script equivalent to "sudo su"?
[21:22] <acovrig> is it possible to boot an encrypted lvm-ext4 partition without a password-using a keyfile on a fat32 partition?
[21:23] <ra21vi> Polah: I boot from CD, gets the initial screen, i put acpi=off and then screen hangs foor quite some nits, then black scree comes for another 5-6 mins... does nothing
[21:24] <bynw> anyone know how to change the icons of folders to match some of those within the home directory? like how the music folder has a musical note on it ... i want to use that same icon for another folder elsewhere on the system. thanks
[21:24] <martin_tsc> bynw, right click, permission
[21:24] <martin_tsc> bynw, right click, permission, then the icon tab
[21:24] <Polah> martin_tsc, bynw: Emblems tab
[21:25] <danDirOfIT> register password<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:25] <chenthu> is there a way to male a customized distro...
[21:25] <ThinkT510> danDirOfIT: you may need a new password
[21:26] <danDirOfIT> why registration hasn't worked for three days now
[21:26] <chenthu> danDirOfIT: send that to nickserv
[21:26] <oCean> !register | danDirOfIT
[21:26]  * edwardthefma need help with mac and ubuntu
[21:26] <bynw> martin_tsc: there is a right click and properties and no icon tab
[21:26] <edwardthefma> lol needs
[21:27] <danDirOfIT> join #freenode
[21:27] <acovrig> edwardthefma: be more specific
[21:27] <oCean> /join #freenode danDirOfIT
[21:27] <ThinkT510> edwardthefma: for someone to help you you need to tell us the problem
[21:27] <prathamb> lol
[21:27] <chenthu> Some who is free can help me join a discussion on making our own build of linux.........
[21:27] <Polah> danDirOfIT: Because you need to send it to nickserv. Do /msg nickserv register and it'll tell you want to send to register. Then do it again with the values for password and suchlike you want
[21:27] <Polah> chenthu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[21:28] <edwardthefma> i got a mac g3 im trying to install ubunu on it
[21:28] <Reikoku> chenthu: Why would you want to make your own build (I assume you mean distro) of Linux?
[21:28] <acovrig> edwardthefma: and what is ur problem with it?
[21:28] <chenthu> Polah: not live cd customization...a complete build...
[21:28] <Polah> chenthu: Compiling your own kernel?
[21:28] <bynw> martin_tsc: there is an emblems tab but only options to add to the current design nothing to completely change it
[21:29] <chenthu> Reikoku: just curious...i always wanted to build one for me so i get what i want
[21:29] <Reikoku> chenthu: You mean a distro or a kernel build?
[21:29] <Reikoku> chenthu: Grab LFS and build away then :P
[21:29] <chenthu> Polah: yeah///downloading kernel from kernel.org
[21:29] <oCean> !remaster | chenthu
[21:29] <chenthu> Reikoku: distro
[21:30] <Reikoku> chenthu: You'd have a lot of work, you have to manage the package repositories and bump every program when it gets upgraded
[21:30] <Reikoku> Probably compile it for every arch you support
[21:30] <oCean> chenthu, Reikoku  remember, this is not really a discussion channel. You can use #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[21:30] <Polah> chenthu: That's not really an Ubuntu support question.
[21:31] <chenthu> reikoku: i can use repositories of 3rd party
[21:31] <Reikoku> chenthu: Suggest http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ if you wan to learn more
[21:31] <Reikoku> chenthu: Then you're not making a distro
[21:31] <Polah> Chenthu: If you want to customize the Ubuntu distro, then you'll want the link I gave you. Building your own distro is a bit more difficult.
[21:31] <Reikoku> The main differences between distros are in package management
[21:32] <chenthu> Polah ocean: thanks for the info and sry if that was disturning....it was just a doubt...
[21:32] <oCean> chenthu: you're most welcome to continue in #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[21:32] <chenthu> Reikoku: thats a good link....thank u
[21:32] <chenthu> ocean: tq
[21:33] <Reikoku> I recommend everyone builds LFS at least once even if just for the experience chenthu
[21:33] <ben_q> hey guys, is there a tweak that would allow me to set a different default browser for a specific domain?
[21:33] <acovrig> I doubt that figuring out how to build your own distro is not off-topic, it seems quite on-topic to me
[21:33] <chenthu> Reikoku: yeah for saure thats my point to so we can conbtri bute a lot to opensource adn Ubuntu as well
[21:34] <Reikoku> acovrig: It's not really on topic, this is #ubuntu not #linux
[21:34] <Polah> ben_q: What do you mean? Using a specific browser for a specific website?
[21:34] <acovrig> Reikoku: true, but if they are starting from ubuntu (based on ubuntu) then, it seems like a good place to start
[21:35] <oCean> ok, let's drop the discussion, and continue with support ok?
[21:35] <ben_q> yes, Polah
[21:35] <Reikoku> Who needs support? :P
[21:36] <Reikoku> ben_q: The easiest way I can think of is write a script which takes the URL, then determines the browser, and set the script as your default URL handler
[21:36] <meway> what should I do to go about mentioning ubuntu on my site?
[21:36] <Technicus> Monotoko: I Have studied the MPX modification: [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-Pointer_X ], and it has been integrated into Xorg since Intrepid.  There is a way to invoke it by following this wiki: [ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/MPX ].  However, I am using Compiz and they do not cooperate with each other.
[21:36] <meway> I would like to throw more people in ubuntu's direction
[21:36] <Reikoku> meway: Mentioning in what context
[21:36] <meway> a link or so
[21:36] <W43372> Hi everybody!
[21:36] <Reikoku> meway: What is your site about?
[21:36] <Polah> ben_q: Not as a program or anything. Reikoku's idea might work. Why would you need to open a website in a specific browser?; display problems?
[21:36] <Reikoku> Is it hosted on ubuntu or something?
[21:37] <Reikoku> Polah: I used to do that when I had one browser on a VPN and one on another VNP
[21:37] <Reikoku> VPN*
[21:37] <meway> Reikoku, yes It is hosted on ubuntu, but I work on pc's and I want customers to try ubuntu.
[21:37] <oCean> meway: this channel is for technical support. There's channels like #ubuntu-marketing for discussion/help like that
[21:38] <meway> thanks oCean
[21:38] <ben_q> Polah, it's a session thing. I'm playing a browser game only on opera (due to some things possible there). for anything else I use FF. but when links from the game are posted on skype, it will open the links in FF then by default
[21:38] <ben_q> I will try Reikoku's idea
[21:39] <ben_q> I suppose setting a simple shell script as default browser then!?
[21:39] <ben_q> should have thought of that myself
[21:39] <ThinkT510> you just did
[21:39] <Reikoku> ben_q: That should work, browser handler functions just pass a parameter to a program so you could set up a shell script to take that parameter and pass it to the browser you want
[21:39] <W43372> I'm making a USB startup disk on Ubuntu. The .iso I need is on my NAS how do I browse to the NAS in the SDC without having to download the iso to my hard drive from the NAS?
[21:39] <Reikoku> I did it in perl with regexp
[21:40] <Reikoku> W43372: Mount the NAS
[21:40] <Monotoko> Technicus, thank you very much :)
[21:41] <NWH> #xubuntu-devel
[21:41] <Reikoku> W43372: It's probably got a builtin NFS or SMB server
[21:41] <W43372> Reioku The NAS is mounted. I just don't know how to navigate to it when I'm using the program to select a source iso, it takes me to the home folder
[21:42] <NotreDev> i just created a new user, and copied my home folder over under their name, and did a chown'd for the new user. however, when i "su - newuser", i'm unable to do basic things like "source ~/.bashrc" and my env is quite different. why is this?
[21:42] <Reikoku> Where is it mounted?
[21:42] <Reikoku> You probably have to choose root file system from your program, W43372
[21:43] <Technicus> Monotoko: It is super easy to make a second pointer, but I have Compiz enabled and it doesn't refresh the second pointer with all the amazing effects that are going on.
[21:43] <NWH> How do I edit my html file /var/www/html
[21:44] <Technicus> Monotoko:  I have gone on to #compiz and am asking if anyone knows any way to get them to cooperate.
[21:44] <W43372> Reioku cant find
[21:45] <NWH> I have a simple question.
[21:45] <NWH> How do I edit my html file /var/www/html
[21:45] <Polah> NWH: command line or graphical editor?
[21:45] <NWH> graphical editor
[21:46] <th0r> NWH: kompozer?
[21:46] <NWH> yes
[21:46] <NWH> and Kate
[21:46] <Polah> NWH: gedit /var/www/html or gksudo gedit /var/www/html depending on whether you will not or will need root permissions to edit it
[21:46] <orchata> NWH: Right click =>  open with => kompozer?
[21:47] <Polah> NWH: Hmm, not gedit then. I just assumed you were on GNOME.
[21:47] <W43372> Reioku cant find
[21:50] <NWH> orchata: right clicked, now open...
[21:50] <NWH> orchata: That is what I did " Right click =>  open with => kompozer?"
[21:50] <W43372> Where do I look to find my NAS in the file system?
[21:51] <orchata> NWH: so did it open it?
[21:51] <NWH> orchata: yes.
[21:52] <th0r> orchata: I think he is looking for help on the actual html code
[21:52] <NWH> orchata & thor: I can't edit  the code.
[21:52] <orchata> NWH: what do you mean by saying you cannot edit it?
[21:52] <th0r> NWH: if it opened, why can't you edit it?
[21:53] <NWH> orchata & thor: Edit the text.
[21:53] <NWH> orchata & thor: Beginner stuff here.
[21:54] <th0r> NWH: I am not into playing twenty questions. If you can't supply some information about the problem I can't help
[21:54] <orchata> NWH:   You cannot type/delete stuff?
[21:54] <NWH> orchata: yes
[21:54] <orchata> NWH: can you open terminal?
[21:55] <NWH> orchata: yes.
[21:55] <bynw> NWH: since the file is located in /var you need to open it with gksudo since as your regular user login you dont have write permission in the /var directory
[21:56] <orchata> NWH:  open terminal and type:     gksudo /var/www/<name of your file>
[21:56] <orchata> and then enter the password
[21:57] <th0r> orchata: gksudo kompozer /var/www........?
[21:58] <NWH> orchata: Right and it prompts me for my password.
[21:58] <orchata> th0r: well, yeah you are right
[21:58] <orchata> NWH:  type your password and it will open it
[21:58] <Ynodde> hai guys
[21:59] <Ynodde> question for opinion, on my ubuntu server/router should i manage fw with ufw or just my old iptables script
[21:59] <th0r> Ynodde: the end result would be the same
[22:00] <NWH> Orchata: Terminal says: "/usr/share/themes/MurrinaBleu/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:85: Murrine configuration option "scrollbar_color" is no longer supported and will be ignored.
[22:00] <NWH> "
[22:00] <NWH> orchata: I can open the index.html file
[22:01] <Ynodde> th0r:aye, just wondering what is more ubuntu ;)
[22:01] <NWH> orchata: I cannot edit the code/text/words...
[22:01] <dr_willis> some people find ufw limiting...
[22:01] <NWH> orchata: Inside of the index.html file
[22:01] <Ynodde> havent used ufw as of yet
[22:04] <NWH> Thor: Thanks a lot it worked. You are a good man.
[22:05] <esing2> hi
[22:05] <esing> i forgot how to setup ethtool :(
[22:06] <esing> how would I find the port which is set? would i have to find the config file or hows that working?
[22:07] <esing> also how do I see my startup entries?
[22:07] <esing> I remember that I put ethtool to the startup
[22:07] <dr_willis> Port? I thought ethtool just confiured some interface settings
[22:08] <esing> dr_willis hm I remember that it uses a port which I can send the magic package to
[22:08] <dr_willis> !startup
[22:08] <orchata> NWH: show the results of:   ls -l /var/www/index.html
[22:09] <elslunko> Anyone have a suggestion for a good pci or usb wireless adapter? Moved my work PC to a new room and want to go wireless.
[22:09] <dr_willis> id avoide the USB ones..
[22:09] <esing> i remember very lightly that I put it to some init folder so it started up automatically
[22:09] <esing> (iam not sure about that)
[22:09] <dr_willis> esing:  /etc/init/
[22:09] <esing> ah okay
[22:09] <dr_willis> esing:  but you dont just put things in there.. you make a proper upstart script for things
[22:10] <elslunko> dr_willis, Yeah from what I've read they're generally bad, I suppose I'll start my search with pci ones.
[22:10] <esing> dr_willis ahhh exactly!
[22:10] <esing> i had a script for that
[22:10] <esing> damn how things which i dont use often just forget so fast
[22:10] <owner> SOS! I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed, but somehow someone overwrote the GRUB and everything with the boot loader for XP.
[22:10] <stuxpoop> Hello, I need to do the following command ar xjvf modusb-linux.tar.bz2 -C /media/blah blah blah - but when i do cd /media/ ls
[22:10] <stuxpoop> It lists my usb
[22:11] <stuxpoop> as Mac OS X Install DVD - so i do ar xjvf modusb-linux.tar.bz2 -C /media/Mac OS X Install DVD it says no file or directory i just cant work it out
[22:11] <owner> I need to know how to restore the Grub and boot loader to dual boot from 10.04 live
[22:11] <owner> I'm running on a live USB now 10.04
[22:12] <stuxpoop> How do I CD into my USB? I know the name of it and know its under Media but I just cant seem to get it to work for me
[22:12] <jrib> stuxpoop: either escape or quote your spaces
[22:13] <stuxpoop> jrib: Well I've named the USB OSX - but under cd /media/ ls it calls it Mac OS X Install so am rather confused
[22:14] <jrib> stuxpoop: did you see what I toldy ou?
[22:14] <owner> am I invisible?
[22:14] <jrib> owner: no way of knowing over irc
[22:14] <stuxpoop> jrib: Yes, I dont quite understand what u mean - can u give me an example please
[22:15] <jrib> stuxpoop: change /media/Mac OS X Install DVD to: /media/'Mac OS X Install DVD'
[22:15] <owner> Ok. when the computer starts it does not show a boot loader, just goes right into XP. How to I re-write the Linux boot loader / Grub to the HD from a Live disk?
[22:15] <stuxpoop> oh ok thanks
[22:15] <stuxpoop> I'll try that
[22:15] <stuxpoop> jrib: thanks that worked for me
[22:15] <jrib> !grub | owner
[22:15] <jrib> stuxpoop: no problem
[22:15] <BlueMatt> any guesses as to why mountall isnt daemonizing and is just exiting?
[22:16] <owner> that's just great, how do I restore Grub2 and the boot loader
[22:16] <jrib> owner: read what ubottu said
[22:17] <owner> yes that's all well and good but it doesn't say how to restore it from a live disk
[22:17] <jrib> owner: more specifically, click and read the first link in what ubottu said
[22:20] <wonderwal> hi im using ubuntu server 11, how do i recompile the kernel?
[22:20] <esing> hopefully it works
[22:20] <esing> gonna try it the setup now
[22:24] <ejv> so
[22:24] <ejv> i can't type when grub loads
[22:24] <ejv> epic fail ubuntu
[22:27] <dajxd> is it possible to boot XP live from a partition with grub?  i can't get it to recognize the OS.
[22:30] <ldlework> Is there a way to programatically, temporarilly, disable the mouse?
[22:30] <BlueMatt> anyone know why mountall would fail to daemonize after running, and just exit instead?
[22:30] <allowoverride> in what file and where does the utility `locate` store its findings, where is the DB??? im on ubuntu linux 10.10
[22:30] <wolter> is there a way the Run Dialog can use the path
[22:31] <wolter> ?
[22:31] <wolter> (env var)
[22:31] <allowoverride> ? huh
[22:31] <qin> !locate
[22:31] <allowoverride> duh
[22:31] <allowoverride> thanks qin, not what i asked
[22:32] <allowoverride> where does it store its cache is the question in otherwords
[22:32] <katrin> allowoverride: /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db i guess
[22:33] <th0r> allowoverride: have you looked at the man page for updatedb?
[22:33] <allowoverride> katrin: yah good guess, i try,, brb
[22:33] <allowoverride> th0r: its locate, just where the db/cache is all i need, either you know or your dont, thanks
[22:33] <th0r> allowoverride: it is clearly defined at the end of updatedb man page...updatedb is the program that creates the database
[22:34] <allowoverride> wow really? gee thanks th0r, tell oden hello for me
[22:34] <wolter> allowoverride, no need to be rude, hes just teaching you could get to know that kind of stuff in future occasions
[22:34] <allowoverride> im just looking for a file name is all... sheshh
[22:34] <wolter> in his own way
[22:34] <allowoverride> wolter: this room is often rude, so... whats your point?
[22:34] <allowoverride> brb i have things to do...
[22:35] <wolter> allowoverride, so you want to be rude as well?
[22:35] <qin> Sweet, /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db, bye.
[22:35] <th0r> wolter: no problem. Too many ubunties don't want to learn...they just want to pass the test
[22:36] <wonderwal> which file has the options which are passed to modules when they are loaded?
[22:36] <allowoverride> send a copy of that test to me there th0r see how i do... then you can comment thereafter ;)
[22:36] <joint> hello. does anybody here use Ubuntu?
[22:40] <kirk__> Hey
[22:40] <BlueMatt> anyone know why mountall would fail to daemonize after running, and just exit instead?
[22:40] <allowoverride> i found my answer.... in #linux room
[22:41] <allowoverride> thanks katrin that helped
[22:41] <kirk__> I have a set of computers that kernel panic when the screen goes blank at the login screen. I want to disable that.
[22:41] <allowoverride> i thought it was /var/db/something.db
[22:41] <allowoverride> lol
[22:41] <allowoverride> every distro has to play with paths... yawn
[22:44] <allowoverride> joint: you thinking about trying Ubuntu?
[22:45] <Chat8741>  xxx
[22:46] <edwardthefma> i need help instyalling ubuntu on my mac
[22:46] <W43372> Hi everybody!
[22:47] <edwardthefma> it says it cant find the hard disk and asks me wich driver i want to use
[22:47] <W43372> I was wondering if it was possible to partition a flash drive so that it shows up as multiple drives when I plug it in.
[22:47] <iceroot> W43372: sure
[22:48] <W43372> iceroot, if it works I was wanting to install a different boot disk on different partitions ubuntu, DBAN, etc. You think that would work?
[22:49] <iceroot> W43372: there is no difference between a real harddisc and a flash-drive. you could do the same things with partitions
[22:50] <W43372> So a partitioned flash drive with a boot disk on different partitions when plugged into a machine would prompt me with a boot menu?
[22:51] <W43372> iceroot, So a partitioned flash drive with a boot disk on different partitions when plugged into a machine would prompt me with a boot menu?
[22:51] <iceroot> W43372: at boot, yes
[22:51] <iceroot> W43372: when using grub
[22:51] <W43372> iceroot, grub?
[22:51] <iceroot> !grub | W43372
[22:53] <W43372> iceroot, so I'd only get the boot menu on a linux machine? Ideally what I wanted to do was set it up so when I work on peoples machines I'd have bootable tool kits on a flash drive instead of carrying around a book of CDs
[22:54] <kirk__> Did anyone answer my question about preventing screen from going black at the login screen?
[22:54] <iceroot> W43372: at boot there is no linux-system
[22:54] <iceroot> W43372: its a normal boot-manager has nothing to do with an installed linux-system
[22:55] <W43372> iceroot, so as long as the system can boot USB I shouldn't have an issue?
[22:55] <iceroot> W43372: correct
[22:56] <W43372> iceroot, and if the system won't boot USB I can just update the BIOS to a version that will, correct?
[22:56] <allowoverride> kirk__: no
[22:56] <iceroot> W43372: depending on the bios
[22:56] <allowoverride> kirk__: whats happening?
[22:57] <W43372> iceroot, whats that mean?
[22:57]  * ugly_duck gets kicked back to the login screen with 11.04 sometimes... Weird!
[22:57] <allowoverride> kirk__: i had that happen before as well
[22:57] <igraltist> hi
[22:57] <iceroot> W43372: that not every system can boot from usb even after a bios-update
[22:57] <tucemiux> what email client you guys recommend besides evolution?  I want a plain email client that doesnt try to organize my emails for me
[22:58] <ugly_duck> webmail
[22:58] <W43372> iceroot, why?
[22:58] <iceroot> W43372: ask the mainboard manufactor
[22:58] <Praxi> not all BIOS's are created equal :D
[22:58] <igraltist> today i use on grub the boot param single, than i can use the cursor to get a rootshell without asking any password
[22:58] <W43372> iceroot, ok, well how would I determine if a system is incapable of USB booting?
[22:59] <iceroot> W43372: ask the mainboard manufactor, google or the manual
[22:59] <ugly_duck> if you were updating the bios to boot from usb, would it not state, THIS FIRMWARE is to allow usb boot, blah blha blah
[22:59] <W43372> iceroot, is it a thing like boars made before <year> can't boot USB?
[22:59] <Praxi> not always ugly_duck but usually would be in the patchnotes
[23:00] <iceroot> W43372: yes. i think that is more related to ##hardware
[23:00] <BlueMatt> anyone know why mountall would fail to daemonize after running, and just exit instead?
[23:00] <ugly_duck> Praxi: yeah, well should be noted somewhere, if its not, then maybe its a good sign not to buy that hardware
[23:00] <ugly_duck> again
[23:01] <linuxman410> how can i install another os based on ubuntu 11.04 and it keeps trying to upgrade ubuntu
[23:01] <W43372> iceroot, alright then, thanks for all the info. I should be able to achieve the partitioned flash with a combination of gparted and startup disk creator, right?
[23:01] <linuxman410> i want to dual boot
[23:01] <balvinder25> hello all
[23:01] <GhostFreeman> I uninstalled all Nvidia drivers and I can't boot into X or GDM, someone help me fix this
[23:02] <balvinder25> im getting error messages when i chck my ntfs partition using gparted..
[23:02] <iceroot> GhostFreeman: remove the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:02] <iceroot> GhostFreeman: remove, not delete
[23:02] <balvinder25> Cluster accounting failed at 8382544 (0x7fe850): extra cluster in $Bitmap
[23:02] <GhostFreeman> Iceroot can I do that in recovery mode
[23:02] <Konata> Hello, I currently experience this issue with an acer aspire 5810TZ notebook: http://bit.ly/rj6s0a
[23:02] <iceroot> GhostFreeman: just press ctrl + alt + f1
[23:02] <balvinder25> Filesystem check failed! Totally 9184 cluster accounting mismatches.
[23:02] <balvinder25> ERROR: NTFS is inconsistent. Run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot it TWICE!
[23:02] <balvinder25> The usage of the /f parameter is very IMPORTANT! No modification was
[23:02] <balvinder25> and will be made to NTFS by this software until it gets repaired.
[23:02] <dr_willis> linuxman410:  you just boot the other os's cd..   and manually partion the disk i think.
[23:02] <Konata> I was wondering if there was any known fix for it or if the issue is solved in the latest release of Ubuntuu
[23:02] <GhostFreeman> Iceroot that does nothing
[23:03] <balvinder25> then i get this..
[23:03] <dr_willis> balvinder25:  you should do what it says.. use windows to 'scan/fix' the ntfs..
[23:03] <GhostFreeman> I can only get to a shell in recovery
[23:03] <balvinder25> but i dont have windows installed
[23:03] <GhostFreeman> I removed all nvidia drivers and nouveau
[23:03] <iceroot> balvinder25: why use ntfs then?
[23:03] <balvinder25> i only have ubuntu no windows.. no dual boot
[23:03] <dr_willis> balvinder25:  ms has rescue/recovery isos you an download/burn.
[23:03] <balvinder25> well i have alot of data already stored..
[23:04] <balvinder25> cnnot move it thats why..
[23:04] <balvinder25> any specific iso that can help
[23:04] <dr_willis> data worth keeping.. is worth backing up...
[23:04] <balvinder25> Yes sir i agree..
[23:04] <balvinder25> any specific iso that can help
[23:04] <dr_willis> ms has vista/win7 rescue/repair iso files you an get.
[23:05] <dr_willis> i dont know the url to them. ask in #windows or check the lifehacker web site.
[23:05] <dr_willis> tghats where i learned about them
[23:05] <balvinder25> hmm.. ok i'll try.. thank  dr willies..
[23:05] <dr_willis> or use a live cd and backup the ntfs files to a linux filesystem somewhere..
[23:06] <player1up> i am running ubuntu from a live cd and it works fine..i can see the HD on my laptop..but i cannot install Ubuntu on the HD..it just keeps hanging...any ideas?
[23:06] <Praxi> Konata: I have seen sort of similar issues to what you are describing.  At Lan parties, so games that if you adjusted the Gamma, your frame rates would dive.  default the gamma and it would be fine again.  Don't have anything useful to add on how to fix it though :(
[23:06] <Konata> Praxi: It's a laptop
[23:07] <Konata> Attempting to adjust the brightness via the applet or via the keyboard will cause the machien to completely hang
[23:07] <Praxi> player1up: Alienware laptop? Had teh same exact issue, had to use some alternate install CD
[23:07] <edwardthefma> who hear has installed ubuntu on a mac g3
[23:07] <player1up> Praxi: no..HP
[23:08] <exutux> hi
[23:08] <Praxi> player1up: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate
[23:08] <player1up> Praxi: it's weird..have tested the HD and it's fine..just cannot install Ubuntu onto it
[23:08] <Praxi> ya totally, mine did that too hehe.
[23:09] <Praxi> edwardthefma: I have a mac running ubuntu 11.04 sitting on the desk next to me, don't know what type of mac
[23:09] <csdserver> i want to completely wipe all my network configs and start over
 g3
[23:09] <BlueMatt> anyone know why mountall would fail to daemonize after running, and just exit instead?
[23:10] <Praxi> edwardthefma: I know nothing about macs, on the back of this one the only thing I can see is 'imac'
[23:10] <GhostFreeman> Iceroot, thank you
 http://www.apple.com/support/powermac/g3/
[23:10] <doritoDan> Is there a general Ubuntu-oriented discussion channel?
[23:10] <csdserver> #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[23:11] <doritoDan> Cool, thanks.
[23:11] <edwardthefma> i need help it says it cant find the right disc drive
[23:11] <edwardthefma> then it gives me a bunch of driver names
[23:12] <tucemiux> ive had it with evolution and it just made me lose an e-mail I wrote, anyone know of a simple email client that doesnt try to organize emails for you that way the email client feels like it ?
[23:13] <csdserver> have you tried Thunderbird?
[23:13] <dr_willis> edwardthefma:  this one?  http://support.apple.com/kb/SP133
[23:13] <edwardthefma> yes

[23:14] <dr_willis> edwardthefma:  its using a PPC processor.. You need the Ubuntu PPC versions
[23:14] <dr_willis> the standard intel disks wont work.
[23:14] <edwardthefma> i allredy have that
[23:14] <Praxi> tucemiux: Second thunderbird, used it on windows for simple PoP testing.
[23:15] <dr_willis> and to be honest with you.. I found the PPC macs lacking in their ability to run Ubuntu. I sold my iMAC DV a few weeks back.
[23:16] <W43372> iceroot, alright then, thanks for all the info. I should be able to achieve the partitioned flash with a combination of gparted and startup disk creator, right?
[23:16] <meomic> hey, is it possible somehow to send mouse click(left click pos x: 300 y 500) event to a window which is not active - minimized? i see xdotool have mouse click but it cant send event to the coord i want - and i dont want my mouse to be moved like crazy
[23:17] <dr_willis> !info xautomation
[23:19] <meomic> ill check it out - thanks for the info - btw ive googled but did not found this one...
[23:19] <dr_willis> i just happened to see it mentioned at a blog site i was reading like 2 min ago.. :)
[23:19] <dr_willis> ive never used it
[23:19] <BigMao> Hi there, I'd like to convert a PDF file to a PDF file.  My reason for doing this is because my current PDF doesn't comply with a webpage, and I know that if I re-save the PDF using the commercial Adobe Acrobat, it works.  But I don't have the commercial Acrobat on my Ubuntu computer.  Can anyone help out? :)
[23:19] <pwnusmaximus> hi guys, my install of "remote desktop" seems to be missing some components
[23:19] <pwnusmaximus> is there an easy way to re-install it?
[23:20] <BigMao> For instance, are there any programs that compress or manipulate PDF files?
[23:20] <BigMao> If I just pass the PDF through that program with minimal modifications, it may fix the problem. :)
[23:21] <qin> BigMao: pdf2ps and ps2pdf
[23:21] <dr_willis> 'dosent comply with a webpage' is sort of a scary statement.. :)
[23:21] <W43372> iceroot, yes? no?
[23:22] <BlueMatt> anyone know why mountall would fail to daemonize after running, and just exit instead?
[23:22] <dr_willis> Unless its somehow testing the creator of the pdf..
[23:22] <BigMao> dr_willis, my apologies for being very imprecise, it is a manuscript submission system for a scientific journal.
[23:22] <Konata> pwnusmaximus, I'm guessing just remove it with apt-get remove and then try to reinstall it
[23:22] <BigMao> the webpage accepts my PDFs and converts them into a proof for the reviewers
[23:22] <pwnusmaximus> hi guys... when i launch "remote Desktop" i get this error: "failed to execute child process 'kmailservice' (no such file or directory)
[23:22] <pwnusmaximus> any hints on how to fix this?
[23:22] <Konata> pwnusmaximus, see above
[23:22] <pwnusmaximus> Konata: ill try that
[23:23] <dr_willis> !info kmailservice
[23:23] <pwnusmaximus> Konata: tttyl
[23:23] <dr_willis> !find kmailservice
[23:23] <pwnusmaximus> dr_willis: ok
[23:23] <Konata> pwnusmaximus, he wasn't talking to you, but talkt o you late
[23:23] <Konata> *later
[23:23] <dr_willis> that sounds like some kde service/applet that just checks the mail..  I dont see how that would keep the rest of the desktpp from loading
[23:24] <BigMao> when I tried pdf2ps and ps2pdf, I lost a lot of detail in the original PDF
[23:24] <BigMao> qin: is there some other way to try it?
[23:24] <BigMao> alternatively i could just go home and use the commercial acrobat but i'd prefer that a free software would have this capability .. :)
[23:25] <dr_willis> Its possible the site is checking that you DID use the commercial acrobat...
[23:25] <qin> BigMao: Thinking...
[23:25] <dr_willis> and thats all it will be happy with.
[23:26] <BigMao> dr_willis, that is possible, but the commercial acrobat is able to process these files, so i doubt they're using it since it gives them an error
[23:26] <pwnusmaximus> Konata: doesnt seem to be working... im going to try just making that directory in my user folder
[23:26] <Konata> what directory?
[23:26] <pwnusmaximus> the "kmailservice"
[23:26] <frostschutz> BigMao: try ps2pdf on the pdf without pdf2ps, if that's any better
[23:26] <Konata> pwnusmaximus, kmailservice isn't related to you
[23:26] <pwnusmaximus> it is
[23:26] <Konata> ..Oh?
[23:27] <frostschutz> BigMao: pdftk and pdfjam might also be worth a try
[23:27] <dr_willis> BigMao:  it may be their 'pdf to proof ' (whatever that means) is very picky on its input.
[23:27] <meomic> that xte is not what ive been lookin for, it also cant jus tsent event that mouse was clicked at 500 500 - i must move mouse and then just click... - i want to have my mouse free
[23:27] <koffeehaus> fedora channel is full of rude dorks - official
[23:27] <pwnusmaximus> im trying to get remote desktop working. but when i try to turn it on it get a "Failed to execute child process "kmailservice" (No such file or directory)"
[23:27] <pwnusmaximus> however kmail the app works..
[23:27] <qin> !ot > koffeehaus
[23:27] <dr_willis> pwnusmaximus:  it could be the issue is not related to that error message..
[23:28] <dr_willis> pwnusmaximus:  theres always the stand alone vnc servers you could try. tightvnc or vnc4server
[23:28] <pwnusmaximus> anything that will work with chicken of the vnc?
[23:28] <lauratika> hi
[23:28] <pwnusmaximus> im trying to access this computer from a mac
[23:29] <dr_willis> pwnusmaximus:  vnc standard is a standard.. :) shouldent matter if the client/servers are all following the standard
[23:29] <Karma_Law> please can someone tell me why flash player not works fine for games (facebook, firefox) in ubuntu?
[23:29] <pwnusmaximus> ok :) ill try tightvnc
[23:29] <dr_willis> Karma_Law:  because adobe dosent really support linux very well.
[23:29] <Praxi> +1 for tightvnc
[23:29] <BigMao> frostschutz, thanks a lot for your help, i will try to use your suggestions and write them down for later if it works :)
[23:30] <dr_willis> Karma_Law:  ive had very few issues with facebook games in flash on Ubuntu. but i guess theres always quirks that can popup
[23:30] <Praxi> Karma_Law: what browser, maybe try chromium?
[23:30] <pwnusmaximus> dr_willis: one caveat. i want a gui. like the full desktop, not a terminal vnc
[23:30] <lauratika> doe any body knowe where i should look for cryptkeeper error log cause everytime i try to mount a folder it disapear from the notification area and cant unmount the folder only via terminal,, and i would like to see if i can see what is wrong.
[23:31] <Praxi> pwnusmaximus: just make your window full screen then?
[23:31] <Karma_Law> dr_willis, Praxi in debian squeeze i was try it and fine very well, but no in ubuntu :S
[23:31] <pwnusmaximus> Praxi: well here in the tightvnc listing it says "Note: This server does not support or need a display."
[23:31] <dr_willis> pwnusmaximus:  vnc server/viewer runs a full desktop....
[23:32] <Phr3d13> does anyone know how i would port a milkdrop preset to openvp preset?
[23:32] <dr_willis> pwnusmaximus:  most vnc servers/clients work that way..  :)
[23:32] <Praxi> dr_willis: the display thing is a carry over from original VNC when you had to specify what display you were connecting to right?
[23:32] <dr_willis> pwnusmaximus:  the 'view the current desktop' is a specialized feature of the kde/gnome vnc built in server. You can have a dozen+ 'hidden' desktops that you vnc into.. none are visiable on the  machines actual monitor.
[23:33] <dr_willis> Praxi:  thats how vnc works.. the 'view local display' is a specilized way to use vnc.
[23:33] <clausen> is there a way to disable networking BEFORE boot, on the Ubuntu LiveCD?
[23:33] <clausen> (I don't want to disable it AFTER it might have been enabled automagically)
[23:33] <lauratika> i mean crash log
[23:33] <dr_willis> pwnusmaximus:  you can have a headless server running 100+ vnc sessions each with their own 'full' desktop.
[23:34] <pwnusmaximus> im not that technical.. i just want a "logmein" clone
[23:35] <Snooffy> clausen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[23:38] <hashitish> Just gonna hang right here, might learn sommit!
[23:38] <hashitish> if thats cool
[23:40] <clausen> Snooffy, I see netcfg/disable_dhcp=true
[23:40] <clausen> Snooffy, how do I find all netcfg options?
[23:40] <qin> inotify do not "see" sshfs mount, what else to use to have live watch?
[23:41] <Snooffy> clausen: I'm going through this http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt as well
[23:41] <clausen> Snooffy, I don'
[23:41] <clausen> don't thin it's a kernel option
[23:41] <clausen> basically, I'm asking userspace not to load wireless kernel modules
[23:42] <clausen> (the livecd userspace scripts look at the kernel command line for options)
[23:42] <hip2theehop> whats the question I may be able to help just connected so I missed it.
[23:42] <clausen> (presumebly, this netcfg command is ignored by the kernel)
[23:42] <Phr3d13> does anyone know how to port milkdrop presets to Banshee's OpenVP Visualizer?
[23:42] <clausen> hip2theehop, how do I tell the ubuntu livecd to not enable the wireless card at any point?
[23:43] <clausen> meta question: how do I find out all the commands the livecd understands?
[23:43] <wolter> is it build into the kernel that a laptop will only wakeup if the lid is opened?
[23:43] <hip2theehop> clausen what type of wireless card?
[23:44] <v3nd3tta``> sudo chown <myuser> <file> doesn't work for some files at my hdd, the user stays '1001', what to do?
[23:45] <clausen> hip2theehop, intel centrino?  (built into the motherboard, probably)
[23:45] <hip2theehop> clausen, is this a laptop or desktop?
[23:46] <italoxp> hip2theehop, Intel Cetrino is a platform
[23:46] <zykotick9> v3nd3tta``, usually it's "chown myuser:myuser file" if you are seeing 1001, then your system may not have a user with that UID.
[23:46] <italoxp> hip2theehop, a codename, like Sandbridge for the new i processors
[23:46] <hip2theehop> italoxp, i know this
[23:47] <italoxp> hip2theehop, sorry .-.
[23:47] <v3nd3tta``> zykotick9: did that already a few times (even in the directories with * and single filenames)
[23:47] <hip2theehop> italoxy, its ok
[23:47] <v3nd3tta``> and also in the top directories with -R (recursive) option etc
[23:47] <zykotick9> v3nd3tta``, "grep 1001 /etc/passwd" is there a user with 1001?
[23:48] <hip2theehop> clausen, they way I would do it little backwards would be to go into the live cd and let it run one time jump into terminal and lspci and find out the driver used.
[23:48] <hip2theehop> clausen, once done with that blacklist it in kernel options on reboot
[23:49] <v3nd3tta``> zykotick9: nope, no user id 1001 there, also I am user 1000 (which is the default single user i believe)
[23:49] <qin> v3nd3tta``: ls -l and lsattr on _the_ file
[23:50] <zykotick9> v3nd3tta``, are these files on an EXT filesystem?
[23:51] <intel_ix> Hello, I'm using linux mint, but it seems that I have an upstream issue. In simple terms, I installed using wubi, and after a power failure, the system no longer boots.
[23:51] <intel_ix> Is there a way to recover data using windows? It's ext4 iirc
[23:51] <vlt> intel_ix: This is Ubuntu support channel.
[23:51] <intel_ix> Yes but, mint is a modified version of ubuntu
[23:51] <hip2theehop> intel pm me
[23:52] <intel_ix> and the windows installer is ubuntu's
[23:52] <vlt> intel_ix: Then find a modified support channel.
[23:53] <intel_ix> Alright, then the issue is with ubuntu's wubi.
[23:53] <intel_ix> Not the OS
[23:53] <vlt> intel_ix: Power failure during wubi install?
[23:53] <v3nd3tta``> qin: ls -a returns my username, but lsattr returns '-----------------e-' on the file
[23:53] <clausen> hip2theehop, how do I find out the driver with lspci?
[23:53] <clausen> (it just gives the device name, not the driver)
[23:53] <intel_ix> no, while os was running
[23:54] <intel_ix> but I was asking how to fix that install
[23:54] <vlt> intel_ix: Do you see grub when booting?
[23:54] <qin> v3nd3tta``: Thats ok
[23:54] <intel_ix> yes but the linux kernel doesn't even start
[23:55] <v3nd3tta``> but in nautilus the user is still '1001' - could that be because my previous install had the same username and also other users and that file was in backup?
[23:55] <vlt> intel_ix: Do you get a grub error msg?
[23:55] <intel_ix> no
[23:55] <intel_ix> it just resets, like it would if overclocking failed
[23:56] <vlt> intel_ix: So what exactly happens?
[23:56] <intel_ix> grub, pick linux, restart
[23:56] <vlt> intel_ix: Are there other menu items in grub?
[23:56] <qin> v3nd3tta``: I do not know nautilus, maybe.
[23:56] <clausen> hip2theehop, how do you blacklist a driver?
[23:56] <ctv> hi to all
[23:57] <intel_ix> just recovery mode and boot to windows
[23:57] <OerHeks> intel_ix if wubi gives problems, i suggest re-install
[23:57] <intel_ix> Well, see
[23:57] <intel_ix> I just really want to know how to repair root.disk
[23:58] <vlt> intel_ix: What happens when choosing recovery mode? And what wit windows?
[23:58] <intel_ix> Windows boots fine
[23:58] <intel_ix> I'm using it
[23:58] <intel_ix> Recovery mode just restarts
[23:58] <vlt> intel_ix: Ok, then I'll no loonger help you.
[23:58] <vlt> intel_ix: kidding
[23:59] <vlt> intel_ix: Boot a live CD or USB stick please.
[23:59] <hip2theehop> clausen. one sec
[23:59] <intel_ix> Right well it's on this computer, so what should I do after that?
[23:59] <vlt> intel_ix: Then run grub-install again.
[23:59] <zykotick9> vlt, how would a livecd help a WUBI install?  Plus, intel_ix should really be getting support for there LinuxMint in a linuxmint channel, not here.
[23:59] <Troy^> for a 500gb drive how much of a partion should i set for ubuntu?