[04:55] <ZachF> would installing ubuntu to a usb flash drive and testing be an acurate measure of performance? or should i just bite the bullet and install it to the HDD on the laptop?
[04:55] <Sarrasine> Leemp, You know NWN has multiplayer?
[04:56] <daftykins> ZachF: graphical performance yes, not really general usage. unless you have a fast flash drive :)
[04:56] <Sensiva> ZachF livecd using unetbootin
[04:56] <usr13> bonks: No need to know the path, the  applications will be in your path.
[04:56] <LinuxPhreak> I can't believe this I'm looking for single program that I know is in the repos and ships with Ubuntu Desktop. But I don't know that name of it and when I describe it no one knows about it
[04:56] <bonks> usr13: I mean, I really have no idea where to find the files. I want to read its install/readme
[04:56] <Leemp> Sarrasine: No i didn't, what type?
[04:56] <Sarrasine> !ask | LinuxPhreak
[04:56] <Sensiva> LinuxPhreak search in synaptic
[04:57] <tucemiux> Sargun_Screen, you know of any shooter games somewhat like et:wolfstein or UrT that work on linux?  It seems all the elite Quake3 playaz are no longer fragging in quake3, im wondering whats out there that works with ubuntu
[04:57] <Sarrasine> Leemp, I am going to PM you so we can keep this channel on topic
[04:57] <Leemp> haha, good point
[04:57] <Leemp> Or rather
[04:57] <tucemiux> Sarrasine, , you know of any shooter games somewhat like et:wolfstein or UrT that work on linux?  It seems all the elite Quake3 playaz are no longer fragging in quake3, im wondering whats out there that works with ubuntu
[04:57] <lws> Anyone know how to get dhclient to update an alternative resolv.conf?
[04:57] <Leemp> #temp_ubuntu_gaming
[04:58] <tucemiux> Leemp, how about #ubuntu-offtopic?
[04:58] <Leemp> Sure
[04:58] <Sarrasine> tucemiux, I love Tremulous and Open Arena, both come free in the Ubuntu repos. Tremulous is very popular
[04:58] <usr13> bonks: But if you need to know where all the files are put, you can look and see: less /var/lib/dpkg/info/pkg-name.list
[04:58] <usr13> bonks: ... info about what was installed.
[04:58] <Sarrasine> I usually only deal with FOSS. I won't have anything to do with proprietary software, under normal circumstances.
[04:59] <tucemiux> Sarrasine, tremelous is far away from the likes of et and UrT, I tried OpenArena but not many humans in there, I really want to pwn humans in network games
[04:59] <Sarrasine> tucemiux, Well, I've never played et and played UrT so long ago that it might as well not matter.
[04:59] <tucemiux> Sarrasine, if it works on ubuntu I would not mind using proprietary software
[05:00] <bonks> usr13: i went into that dir and did dir svn*, but there are no matching files
[05:00] <bonks> i know i have svn installed
[05:00] <Sarrasine> tucemiux, I do not support the philosophy of proprietary software, but to each his own.
[05:00] <usr13> bonks: Try dpkg -L pkg-name
[05:01] <Sarrasine> *silence*
[05:01] <bonks> usr13: cool there we go, thanks
[05:01] <Leemp> I'm shopping for a PCEe Nvidia card ubuntu will love.
[05:01] <Leemp> And that best buy carries.
[05:01] <Leemp> lol
[05:01] <Leemp> I want it asap tomorrow morning :P
[05:02] <Sarrasine> Leemp, please remember that Enter is not considered punctuation. =O
[05:02] <usr13> bonks: NP, glad to be of service
[05:02] <bonks> usr13: this chan is always the most helpful :)
[05:02]  * Sarrasine doesn't want Leemp kicked due to flooding.
[05:02] <Leemp> Sarrasine: It's not the enter key that is the problem. It's my train of thought. Or rather, many, small, and fast trains of thought.
[05:02] <Leemp> :o
[05:03] <Sarrasine> Hey, just a gentle reminder. *smiles* I don't want Ubottu thinking you're having a seizure.
[05:03] <Leemp> Np
[05:03] <ardchoille> !hcl | Leemp check for nvidia cards here
[05:03] <usr13> bonks: Yep, are so many folks here that someone is bound to know a little something about most any issue you may have.
[05:03] <hekin> question, how to install monaco font on Ubuntu?
[05:06] <cubic> google earth  on ubunto   ???
[05:07] <cubic> anyone  know how to install google earth  on ubunto   ???
[05:07] <ardchoille> !info googleearth-package | cubic
[05:08] <cubic> thanks  guys
[05:08] <cubic> girls
[05:08] <ZykoticK9> cubic, it's a package in Medibuntu as well
[05:09] <Sarrasine> I move that we name ardchoille "The All-Knowing". All in favor?
[05:10] <tucemiux> Sarrasine, I dont support the philosophy of propietary software either but I'd be willing to use it if it works on ubuntu
[05:11] <Leemp> ardchoille: Thanks, i'll put that on my phone for tomorrow when i'm at the store. :)
[05:11] <Sarrasine> tucemiux, That's contradictory to me. That's like saying you don't believe in slavery, but 'Hey, they're already in chains. Why not?'
[05:11] <duckwars> is there any reason why when I do the command "sudo shutdown now" it takes MUCH longer to turn off (if it does) then when I shutdown through the gui?
[05:11] <ardchoille> Sarrasine: Tons more people in this channel that could leave me in the dust ;)
[05:12] <ardchoille> Leemp: Most stores will let you view that page fromone of their computers if it means a possible sale :)
[05:13] <Leemp> ardchoille: Good point
[05:13] <Leemp> ardchoille: Either way, my phone works fine hehe.
[05:13] <seanbrystone> how do i run a .sh script from another directory other than the one the script is in? ive tried moving it to /home/seanbrystone/bin and /usr/bin  no luck
[05:14] <Sensiva> seanbrystone first make sure its executable by doing chmod +x , then you can run it from any where by typing in terminal /path/to//script.sh
[05:14] <seanbrystone> yep did that
[05:14] <Leemp> ardchoille: Is this list a must have? Ie, does a card have to be on here to work with my version? Also what is the ubuntu version thing about? 9.10 is only *supported* by a couple cards
[05:14] <seanbrystone> but i wanna run the script from any dir without having to do /path/to/script.sh
[05:15] <ardchoille> Leemp: No, that list is maintained by the community. Just because an item isn't there doesn't mean it won't work. Anyone can add hardware as they find new working models
[05:15] <zoink> i need some help. i created a partition on /dev/sdb, when it ry to write the filesystem it won't let me.  it shows up under fdisk -l, but not with ls /dev/sd*
[05:15] <usr13> seanbrystone: Then you need to put it in your path the dir it's in to your path.
[05:15] <Leemp> ardchoille: Gotcha.
[05:15] <Sarrasine> zoink, Did you reboot?
[05:15] <seanbrystone> usr13 how?
[05:15] <zoink> Sarrasine: yes
[05:16] <ardchoille> Leemp: some hardware is only supported in certain ubuntu versions.. an example would be NIC cards
[05:16] <Leemp> ardchoille: In that case i'll basically be going to best buy tomorrow and buying the best pcie card i can get my hands on. Nvidia has good linux drivers right?
[05:16] <ardchoille> NIC drivers are sometimes dropped from the kernel
[05:16] <Sarrasine> zoink, Does your installation or base media support the filesystem you are attempting to install?
[05:16] <zoink> Sarrasine: yes
[05:16] <usr13> seanbrystone: PATH="$PATH: /home/seanbystone/bin
[05:16] <Sarrasine> zoink, what command are you running?
[05:16] <ardchoille> Leemp: I've always had good experience with nvidia, a far cry better than ATI imho
[05:17] <Sarrasine> And your output?
[05:17] <zoink> Sarrasine: i used fdisk to create the partition, then tried running mke2fs -j /dev/sdb1
[05:17] <seanbrystone> usr13, where do i paste that?
[05:17] <usr13> seanbrystone: PATH="$PATH: /home/seanbystone/bin"
[05:17] <Sarrasine> zoink, and the output?
[05:17] <zoink> Sarrasine: it says can not stat /dev/sdb1.  The device apparently does not exist; did you specify it correctly?
[05:17] <usr13> seanbrystone: That was just an example.
[05:17] <Satzo> Hi.  My mousewheel(up and down) usually scrolls text in an app, but sometimes it zooms the whole desktop in and out.  I assume that is a feature but I don't know how to turn it on and off.  Help please.
[05:17] <ardchoille> Leemp: But, I build my own machines, using parts that I already know work with Ubuntu.. which is why I use that HCL list extensively
[05:17] <seanbrystone> oh ok ty usr13
[05:17] <Leemp> ardchoille: Any idea if they lag behind in their own drivers? Should i stray away from newer cards?
[05:17] <usr13> seanbrystone: But you may also do a symlink to it to a dir that is already in your path.
[05:18] <Sarrasine> zoink, You did reboot the whole system? I can always clear that error with a reboot. (Sorry to ask this again)
[05:18] <zoink> Sarrasine: yes
[05:18] <ardchoille> Leemp: I would stray a bit, but not too far. my current card is nvidia gefore 6200, over 6 years old and still works great. But they might drop this model soon, idk
[05:18] <Sarrasine> *shrugs* Sorry bud, but I've never had an issue past that. Maybe The All-Knowing can help you? (ardchoille)
[05:19] <usr13> seanbrystone: Like:  ln -s file.sh /usr/bin
[05:19] <usr13> seanbrystone: Like:  ln -s file.sh /usr/bin/
[05:19] <seanbrystone> ok thx :)
[05:19] <qUaNtiC_> hi, the icons and apps on my upper panel are always in  a different position every time i boot, even if i lock them to the panel, what is happening? how do i solve it? thanks
[05:19] <bonks> how do I use the 'less' command on an executable?
[05:20] <balas> in rhythmbox this is my gstreamer pipeline for creating mp3s.  i'm wondering if anyone could tell me how to adjust it for the best sounding VBR rip.  audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc mode=0 vbr-quality=6 ! id3v2mux
[05:20] <ardchoille> qUaNtiC_: that's a problem with the way the panel is designed, I never was able to fix that either
[05:20] <Flannel> bonks: What do you mean?
[05:20] <zoink> ardchoille: referred by Sarrasine  >.>
[05:20] <Sarrasine> bonks, less ~/name
[05:20] <ardchoille> zoink: what was the issue again?
[05:20] <zoink> ardchoille: < zoink> i need some help. i created a partition on /dev/sdb, when it ry to write the filesystem it won't let me.  it
[05:20] <zoink>                   shows up under fdisk -l, but not with ls /dev/sd*
[05:21] <bonks> Flannel/Sarrasine: I tried less dpkg -L subversion, but it shows everything and i cant scroll
[05:21] <usr13> seanbrystone: If you have it in the directory /home/seanbrystone/bin  you should only need to add that to your path.
[05:21] <ardchoille> zoink: if it's mounted, you need to use sudo/gksudo due to permissions
[05:21] <Flannel> bonks: dpkg -L subversion | less
[05:21] <bonks> OH :)
[05:21] <seanbrystone> ok usr
[05:21] <bonks> ty Flannel
[05:22] <qUaNtiC_> ardchoille: seems logging out and back in solves the prob
[05:22] <usr13> seanbrystone: PATH="$PATH: /home/seanbrystone/bin"
[05:22] <ardchoille> qUaNtiC_: for now, yes. But I've had that issue come back to haunt me l;ater
[05:23] <zoink> ardchoille: it's not mounted, new disk
[05:23] <zoink> ardchoille: well it was used previously...but new to the system
[05:23] <ardchoille> zoink: if it isn't mounted, then you won't be able to write to it
[05:23] <zoink> ardchoille: but i can't even create a filesystem...
[05:23] <ardchoille> zoink: oh, wait, you mean creating the fs on that partition?
[05:24] <ardchoille> zoink: which app are you using for this?
[05:24] <zoink> ardchoille: yes, i used fdisk to make the partition and i'm running mke2fs -j /dev/sdb1 to write the filesystem
[05:24] <ardchoille> zoink: I've never done any of that via cli
[05:25] <zoink> >.<
[05:25] <ardchoille> zoink: is this on a box that has a desktop environment?
[05:25] <zoink> no
[05:25] <ardchoille> Ah, I see
[05:27] <obscurant1st> i am creating partitions in my system, i have to store the music files in one drive and in the other i have to store video files, so which type file system i should make?
[05:27] <devunt> PRIVMSG #ubuntu :i am creating partitions in my system, i have to store the music files in one drive and in the other i have to store video files, so which type file system i should make?
[05:27] <tucemiux> devunt, i would choose ext4
[05:27] <devunt> PRIVMSG #ubuntu :devunt, i would choose ext4
[05:27] <ardchoille> zoink: any reason you're using mke2fs rather than mkfs ?
[05:27] <devunt> PRIVMSG #ubuntu :zoink: any reason you're using mke2fs rather than mkfs ?
[05:28] <obscurant1st> what is devunt ? is it a bot?
[05:28] <devunt> PRIVMSG #ubuntu :what is devunt ? is it a bot?
[05:28] <ardchoille> !away > lordmortis|away
[05:28] <devunt> PRIVMSG #ubuntu :!away > lordmortis|away
[05:28] <devunt> PRIVMSG #ubuntu :lordmortis|away, please see my private message
[05:28] <blakkheim> devunt: stop please
[05:28] <tucemiux> devunt,  what are you doing? I can read your posts
[05:29] <obscurant1st> tucemiux: i dont have otpion for ext4 in gparted
[05:29] <devunt> sorry
[05:29] <ardchoille> looks like a bot
[05:29] <ardchoille> I guess not
[05:29] <devunt> my xchat script is crashed.
[05:29] <zoink> ardchoille: no difference
[05:29] <bfri> i need help getting my mic to work on a sony vaio any advise
[05:29] <mike> hey whats up im mike
[05:29] <obscurant1st> so ext3 is it a good option?
[05:29] <blakkheim> now you're Guest49334
[05:29] <obscurant1st> and what about this reiserfs?
[05:29] <ardchoille> zoink: perhaps you can apstebin the comand you're using and the output you're getting. somene here is bound to help with it
[05:29] <tucemiux> obscurant1st, you must be using an old version of gparted, or you must be trying to install jaunty, try downloading a live CD that has the latest and greatest version of gparted
[05:29] <ardchoille> !paste
[05:29] <usr13> obscurant1st: Depends on your system, if it supports ext4 use it. ext4 has a few advancements / enhancements over ext3 and may be a little better for large partition and large files.
[05:30] <obscurant1st> tucemiux: so ext4 is the best?, ok, thx
[05:30] <obscurant1st> i will do it. :D
[05:30] <barbara> my laptop likes to stay around the top CPU step and I want it to be very conservative. I've tried cpu-scaler-applet but I'm not satisfied with it's performance. I installed powernowd but no help...
[05:30] <vipjerrys> how do iget yahoo chat voice
[05:30] <obscurant1st> usr13: my system is 250Gb 2GB ram n c2d 2.1
[05:31] <Guest49334> hey i need a software for my scan and i dont know what to do
[05:31] <obscurant1st> so ext4 is ok roght?
[05:31] <obscurant1st> right*
[05:31] <Guest81208> hello
[05:31] <indianhacker> Hi
[05:31] <zoink> ardchoille: http://paste.ubuntu.com/382046/
[05:31] <Guest49334> hello
[05:31] <Guest49334> my name is mike
[05:31] <Guest49334> nice to meet you
[05:31] <indianhacker> is there any built-in package for vpn server in ubuntu
[05:31] <corespeedxxx> is ext4 safe to use.. I use karmic
[05:32] <barbara> currently one core is 798mhz and the other is full speed 2527! all i'm doing is xchat...
[05:32] <corespeedxxx> ext4 vs ext3, what to gain?
[05:32] <obscurant1st> corespeedxxx: yep i am also using Karmic, actually i had a backed up using partimage
[05:33] <usr13> corespeedxxx: I use both ext3 and ext4 and they are both ok far as I can tell.  ext4 seems stable and a bit faster.
[05:33] <Elrox> corespeedxxx, i stick with ext3
[05:33] <Guest49334> whats news?
[05:33] <Guest49334> for ubuntu
[05:33] <Guest49334> 9.10?
[05:33] <ardchoille> zoink: sdb is a device, sdb1 is a partition on that device. are you sure there is a partition on sdb?
[05:34] <vipjerrys> what do i need to get yahoo chat
[05:34] <corespeedxxx> obscurant1st: usr13 Elrox: so? not any major benefits in ext4?
[05:34] <zoink> ardchoille: according to fdisk
[05:34] <ardchoille> zoink: That looks weird
[05:34] <usr13> corespeedxxx: Some believe ext4 is bleeding edge but... well, I've not seen any type of failure in it and have used it for some time now.
[05:34] <UbuntuLinux> i need help with wine
[05:34] <UbuntuLinux> can any body help ?
[05:34] <ardchoille> zoink: unfortunatly, not much I can help with that
[05:35] <obscurant1st>  corespeedxxx u are asking me?, actually i am the one who asked for help in here for selecting a filesystem type,
[05:35] <Sensiva> corespeedxxx this question doesn't have a short answer please read this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1133719
[05:35] <Elrox> corespeedxxx, not as far as i have seen ..
[05:35] <usr13> corespeedxxx: ext4 seems to be a bit faster, but other than that, I don't know for sure.
[05:35] <Flannel> UbuntuLinux: Sure.  Depending on your question you might have more luck in #winehq though, but ask away
[05:36] <corespeedxxx> OK.. thanx all for your answers In my ext3-4 thought process =)
[05:36] <corespeedxxx> I go and read up
[05:36] <zoink> ardchoille: i think i figured it out, the hard drive used to be part of an old array...i need to remove the associated raid stuff
[05:36] <barbara> need help with cpu scaling. anyone?
[05:38] <usr13> corespeedxxx: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
[05:39] <Sensiva> iQuote Parts of this section (those related to the Linux kernel) may no longer be up to date. Please update this section to reflect recent events or newly available information, and remove this template when finished. Please see the talk page for more information.
[05:39] <indianhacker> thnks myslef vishu
[05:39] <Sensiva> actually no reviews have been made after 2.6.32 release
[05:43] <^sn00per^> plop works well
[05:43] <barbara> need help with cpu scaling. anyone know how to make it actually work?
[05:45] <dj_segfault> Hey.  For CD ripping I live by grip which isn't included anymore.  I can't find a ripper that does simple things like picking song names out of the track title as the track artist (split on / or -), writing all files to the same folder, etc.  Asunder is close but not quite.
[05:46] <^sn00per^> how do i set root password off from live cd ?
[05:46] <bfri> i need help getting my mic to work on a sony vaio any advise
[05:46] <ardchoille> ^sn00per^: sudo doesn't work for you?
[05:46] <Flannel> ^sn00per^: You don't need to set a root password
[05:46] <Sensiva> dj_segfault Audio CD extractor
[05:46] <ardchoille> !sudo | ^sn00per^
[05:47] <^sn00per^> forgot all about the sudo ..
[05:47] <^sn00per^> duh..  not thinking about that lol
[05:47] <dj_segfault> Sensiva: What program is that really?
[05:48] <Hamburger> anyone familiar with setting up samba? i asked in #samba but all i hear are crickets
[05:48] <usr13> Hamburger: What do you need?
[05:48] <Sensiva> dj_segfault will rip tracks, fetch meta info from freedb.org and insert it in ID tags
[05:48] <Hamburger> so i've installed samba 3.4.5 on ubuntu and this is how i'm trying to set up a share and i've been reading the man page and wiki and still can't figure out how to do it: i have a share ~/Shared that i would like to be read-only to guests and read/write for a specific user. Ideally I would like the guests to not even have to provide a username, but if it has to be that way, fine.
[05:48] <abhi_nav> I followed the instructions listed on http://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en but still can tor check shows that tor is not in use. How to get tor to work???
[05:48] <mneptok> dj_segfault: sound-juicer
[05:48] <dj_segfault> Sensiva: That's cool, but what is the actual program name?
[05:49] <xTheGoat121x> Has anyone noticed instability in Pidgin 2.6.5 on Karmic?
[05:49] <Sensiva> dj_segfault in Ubuntu software center (under Applications menu) search for "rip" you will find it on top of the list
[05:49] <dj_segfault> xTheGoat121x: Nope.  Using it right now.
[05:49] <Sensiva> ^sn00per^ sudo su then passwd
[05:50] <xTheGoat121x> dj_segfault, Ah, well... cuz mine seems to crash randomly.
[05:50] <mneptok> Sensiva: "sudo -i" is the preferred method
[05:50] <ardchoille> ^sn00per^: sudo -i is best as it sets up the env better
[05:50]  * Sensiva writes that down
[05:50] <Sensiva> thank you
[05:51] <^sn00per^> thank you ardchoille
[05:51] <semitones> Is it possible to find detailed information on why Top reports so much %wa ?
[05:51] <ardchoille> yw
[05:51] <^sn00per^> been a while since i used linux
[05:52] <PetePaul> I have compiled my first kernel and edited the /boot/grub/menu.lst file to my new kernel version, and now i get a error 15: File not found
[05:52] <^sn00per^> cool !
[05:52] <PetePaul> understandable if its a unhelpable stuation
[05:52] <^sn00per^> now doing update
[05:52] <ardchoille> PetePaul: Are you using grub or grub2?
[05:52] <PetePaul> grub
[05:53] <PetePaul> i belive
[05:53] <ardchoille> ok
[05:53] <^sn00per^> i gotta thank to someone who told me to get that plop !
[05:53] <usr13> !samba | Hamburger
[05:53] <PetePaul> its ubuntu 8.10
[05:54] <Sensiva> PetePaul that error you are getting after choosing the new item? or before grub menu show up?
[05:54] <^sn00per^> that ubuntu 9.4 works well with that viao pgc U101..
[05:54] <Hamburger> usr13, thanks but i've been looking at both of these pages and still can't figure out what i'm trying to do
[05:54] <^sn00per^> sees my wifi, whole works but not sure about the extra buttons i have on the viao
[05:54] <bfri> i need help getting my mic to work on a sony vaio any advise
[05:55] <PetePaul> its when the grub menu shows up, i changed the .lst file to my new kernel version as the default, but kept the original recovery mode incase of this
[05:55] <^sn00per^> i gotta get used to the japanese keyboard ..
[05:55] <tko> hi, is there a way to hide the ubuntu screen and see what its doing/
[05:55] <tko> when its booting
[05:56] <Sensiva> PetePaul you need to provide the full path to the new kernel in menu.lst
[05:56] <^sn00per^> remove those splash and quiet option it ll make it be a little noisy  i think
[05:56] <semitones> how do I mv the contents of /bin/foo/ without moving the directory itself?
[05:56] <Sensiva> PetePaul since it says file not found, then its not there, maybe you misspelled it
[05:57] <Sensiva> semitones mv /bin/foo/*
[05:57] <tko> So my Ubuntu Linux keeps freezing when I try to boot into it.  It freezes when the loading screen is working, so I can't see what its doing.  Anyone know anything?
[05:57] <ardchoille> Semikolon: mv /bin/foo/* /path
[05:57] <semitones> danka, sensiva
[05:57] <Sensiva> semitones velkommen :D
[05:58] <ardchoille> Semikolon: sorry, tab completion fail
[05:58] <semitones> :D
[05:58] <PetePaul> i copied everything for my new kernel into the /boot directory and in the .lst file i kept everything the same but jst changed the kernel verison from <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:58] <rothsdad> hey, how to use tor in chromium?
[05:58] <Hamburger> so no one knows about what i'm trying to do with samba?
[05:58] <Sensiva> PetePaul use pastebin and show that kernel line please
[05:59] <usr13> Hamburger: What exactly is your question?
[05:59] <Hamburger> so i've installed samba 3.4.5 on ubuntu and this is how i'm trying to set up a share and i've been reading the man page and wiki and still can't figure out how to do it: i have a share ~/Shared that i would like to be read-only to guests and read/write for a specific user. Ideally I would like the guests to not even have to provide a username, but if it has to be that way, fine.
[05:59]  * mneptok despises Samba and the Microsoft it rode in on
[05:59] <PetePaul> you want the grub.lst file?
[05:59] <usr13> Hamburger: Again you need to ask a question.  But this is not really the place. You should ask on #samba
[05:59] <bfri> I have jaunty installed on a ex2 partition of my external.  I booted it on my windows comp and now windows wont boot any advice
[06:00] <Sensiva> PetePaul its menu.lst not grub.lst, I need only the line of the new kernel
[06:00] <Hamburger> #samba is just crickets and I'm asking how exactly I would set up my smb.conf to accomplish this
[06:00] <PetePaul> my mistake lol
[06:00] <Sensiva> PetePaul paste all of it, make sure no passwords in it
[06:00] <ripperda> hello, I have a question about a serial console and kernel output
[06:00] <usr13> Hamburger: "crickets"?
[06:00] <PetePaul> ok
[06:00] <Hamburger> no one has said anything
[06:01] <ripperda> specifically, I can setup a console just fine and get all of the initial boot output, but once the OS loads, all kernel output stops going to the serial console
[06:01] <mneptok> Hamburger: http://www.faqs.org/docs/securing/chap29sec284.html
[06:01] <ripperda> problem is, I want to debug a hang when shutting down, so am looking for kernel messages/oopses at that point in time
[06:01] <usr13> Hamburger: Have you tried using swat?
[06:01] <elf429> Hello
[06:01] <ripperda> is there a trick to keeping the kernel output on the serial console?
[06:01] <deanfx> What's up
[06:01] <elf429> nothin much how are you guys?
[06:02] <elf429> or gilrs....*worried*
[06:02] <usr13> Hamburger: You will also find useful info at: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/
[06:02] <Hamburger> usr13, thats what i'm currently using, and it is helping a lot, but still i'm having no luck on what combination of "guest" options I need to use.
[06:02] <deanfx> good, and you?
[06:02] <elf429> good good...confused and new to Ubuntu.....*tear* so i need to figure out how to get Audio drivers for Realtek
[06:02] <semitones> Is it possible to find detailed information on why Top reports so much %wa ?
[06:02] <usr13> Hamburger: Sometimes you have to get your hands dirty and edit the config file on your own.
[06:02] <deanfx> Hmm, You have no sound at all?
[06:03] <elf429> ZIP Nawda
[06:03] <deanfx> strange. Your running 9.10?
[06:03] <elf429> Roger
[06:03] <glick> hey dos anyone know how to view the layers dialog box in gimp?
[06:03] <deanfx> glick - download gimpshop
[06:04] <glick> gimpshop?
[06:04] <Hamburger> usr13, i realize this, but how do i even accomplish my task? do i put the user in admin list and make the share guest only? do i create a user called guest and put it on the read list? do i make the share read only?
[06:04] <deanfx> http://www.gimpshop.com/
[06:04] <ardchoille> deanfx: that is not a proper fix
[06:04] <glick> thanks deanfx but thats not what i asked for really :)
[06:05] <ardchoille> glick: the layers ui should be the second tab in the Toolbox window
[06:05] <glick> i was just wondering if anyone know how to make the layers ui appear
[06:05] <glick> yeah ardchoille its not there
[06:05] <elf429> anyone know how to get sound at all on Ubuntu 9.10?
[06:05] <ardchoille> glick: right click one of the existing tabs and see if you can add the layers tab
[06:06] <Monona> How do I change the IRQ of my soundcard from 16 (which it shares with a USB device) to 10, which would give it higher priority?
[06:06] <glick> ah yes ardchoille thanks that worked :)
[06:06] <petsounds> hi. in irssi how can i hides join/part msgs?
[06:06] <ardchoille> glick: yay! :)
[06:07] <mneptok> deanfx: ctl-l
[06:07] <pahindr> 123
[06:07] <ardchoille> petsounds: /ignore #channel joins parts quits
[06:07] <PetePaul> http://www.pastebin.com/d5b380fc3
[06:07] <arand> petsounds: look at /help ignore
[06:07] <dgeary2> Monona, depends on the card and the interface, to the best of my knowledge IRQ has nothing to do with priority
[06:07] <^sn00per^> ardchoille: you know i just realized something.. how do i check to see if sound is working if i am deaf ?
[06:08] <`mOOse`> @@
[06:08] <ardchoille> ^sn00per^: no idea, I don't use sounds as I am hearing impaired.. mine may not work at all for all I know
[06:08] <elf429> yeah sn00per i dont have sound after a fresh install?....any ideas?
[06:08] <Myrtti> ^sn00per^: totem has visualisations
[06:08] <arand> ^sn00per^: Vibration in speakers?
[06:08] <Monona> dgeary2: I'm trying to figure out different ways to troubleshoot jack, which has kinda left me stuck in a swamp of xruns.  Thought it was worth a shot.
[06:09] <mneptok> ^sn00per^: volume to maximum. wait for police.
[06:09] <^sn00per^> off on those little speaker on viao pcg U 101 ?
[06:09] <ardchoille> mneptok: That'll work :)
[06:09] <Myrtti> ^sn00per^: no hold on, i'm not awake yet
[06:09] <petsounds> ardchoille: do i need to type hi. i'm new to irssi. if i join multiple channel how can i switch channel? thanks :)
[06:09] <petsounds> oops
[06:09] <dgeary2> Monona, sounds like the problem is elsewhere...
[06:09] <petsounds> ardchoille: do i need to type every time i login?
[06:09] <ardchoille> petsounds: you should probably /join #irssi
[06:09] <ardchoille> Great folks in there
[06:10] <^sn00per^> ardchoille: you are hearing impaired ?
[06:10] <Sensiva> PetePaul ls /boot/vmlinuz-<IP_ADDRESS> ?
[06:10] <ardchoille> yes
[06:10] <Monona> dgeary2: Back to the internets, then.  *sigh*
[06:10] <petsounds> ardchoille: right ;)
[06:10] <PetePaul> ?
[06:10] <^sn00per^> ardchoille: you know sign too as well ?
[06:11] <ardchoille> ^sn00per^: may I pm you? This is ot for this channel
[06:11] <Sensiva> PetePaul check if the file in /boot or not by ls /boot/vmlinuz-<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:11] <^sn00per^> ardchoille: go ahead i dont mind
[06:12] <PetePaul> yes it is
[06:12] <Sensiva> PetePaul and /boot/initrd.img-<IP_ADDRESS> ?
[06:13] <PetePaul> nice one, it wasnt in there
[06:14] <Sensiva> Try installing from mainlines
[06:14] <Sensiva> there are debs for newer kernel
[06:15] <PetePaul> yes i know i jst wanted to learn something i have never done
[06:15] <rocket16> How can I using C++ in Ubuntu?
[06:15] <abhi_nav> ucse gcc
[06:15] <rocket16> I have installed g++ package, and Anjuta as well, but Anjuta does not work.
[06:15] <Slydon> why does Anjuta not work?
[06:15] <abhi_nav> then prefer codelite and/or eclipse
[06:15] <rocket16> Codelite? Isn't that for java? (Don't know it well)
[06:16] <Kamokow> Codelite is C++. I would recommend Code::Blocks if you want an IDE. Or just learn to use G++ (it isnt really all that hard).
[06:17] <rocket16> Thanks kamokow, I am only a novice. But I know to use G++. But, many programmes do not work in it.
[06:17] <Kamokow> Okay, well good luck with your C++.
[06:18] <rocket16> Thanks KAmokow, I am actually a Java developer. But, to me, both Java and C++ are the best, so trying to learn it. :)
[06:19] <rocket16> Some say C++ > Java, while some say Java > C++. I say, both are equally nice.
[06:19] <xubuntu> hi
[06:19] <rocket16> Hi
[06:19] <alphacharlie_> hey does anyone know how  an application is generally ported to a different os?
[06:20] <Slydon> i thought java was meant more for devices that are not pc's, and c++ is more pc related oop
[06:20] <abo-> alphacharlie_, I was working on porting some unix code to windows.. it's generally a matter of finding the equivalent functions and libraries
[06:21] <ripperda> does anyone have experience with serial consoles?
[06:21] <PetePaul> I am currently in college for my associates in Information Technology, but am interested in computer security. Am I on the right path?. any input will be nice
[06:21] <Flannel> PetePaul: You'll want to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here.  Thanks
[06:22] <rocket16> Installed Codelite, but the Build option is disabled. Any advice?
[06:22] <`mOOse`> PetePaul - exploit.org
[06:22] <Flannel> rocket16: Do you have the `build-essential` package installed?
[06:23] <rocket16> Build-essential? Let me check...
[06:23] <rocket16> Yes, I have it.
[06:24] <rocket16> But the libloki dev is not. Should I install it?
[06:24] <alphacharlie_> abo-:do u know abt any site or book that can give some guidelines?
[06:24] <abo-> no... I was using google...
[06:24] <rocket16> Flannel?
[06:25] <abo-> alphacharlie_, the code was in c++, and for every call that didn't work, I was looking in google what's the equivalent in windows
[06:25] <abo-> it's tedious...
[06:25] <Flannel> rocket16: libloki isn't required for building (in general, your particular code might need it)
[06:26] <rocket16> Thanks Flannel. So, is it a Compiler problem?
[06:26] <Flannel> rocket16: I have no experience with codelite, so I unfortunately don't know what to tell you
[06:26] <Flannel> rocket16: likely not.  Probably some codelite configuration
[06:26] <rocket16> Ok Flannel. N problem, and thank you for your help. Most appreciated, :)
[06:27] <Omr> Does anyone know how to setup a modem in ubuntu?
[06:27] <rocket16> Omr, you can use ipconfig, and Network-Manager
[06:28] <Omr> I mean to install the modem.  Its dial up
[06:28] <usr13> !modem | Omr
[06:28] <rocket16> You can use gnome-ppp, or kppp to set it up. No installation is needed.
[06:29] <Omr> Yeah i read that but after running scan modem my modem is detected as Intel 82440MX AC'97 and the guide does not cover this chipset
[06:29] <rocket16> Use sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp. Now, after installation, run it, select setup, and then "Detect Modem", and enter the Username, password and Access number
[06:30] <Omr> apt get with no internet fails a little
[06:30] <BouncingBall> n00buntu rokks d00d
[06:30] <rocket16> Omr, ok. Then, can't you download them manually from Internet? If yes, I can provide you a link.
[06:30] <Omr> yes
[06:30] <rocket16> Ok,
[06:30] <Omr> i can put them on pc with memory stick thank you
[06:31] <Madpilot> BouncingBall, be polite.
[06:31] <rocket16> Sure, just giving,
[06:31] <rocket16> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=gnome-ppp
[06:31] <ZachF> ok folks, so im going to switch back to ubuntu from Arch... is there a particular kernel that suits laptops, dual core processors etc?
[06:31] <rocket16> And, be sure to install five other packages, namely wvdial and others,
[06:32] <rocket16> Omr, a better link is http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/gnome-ppp with all necessary dependencies
[06:33] <Omr> thanks
[06:33] <tallyho> ubuntu hibernating settings, anyone?
[06:33] <Omr> can i run all this from command line or do i need a gui?
[06:33] <tallyho> i checked power management but after some time it still goes into sleep mode
[06:34] <tallyho> the tower just turns off
[06:34] <rocket16> A GUI is better, but you can run them from command line too.
[06:35] <rocket16> Use "gdebi packagename.deb" after "cd address" command,
[06:35] <iceroot> Omr: because the cli is much more powerfull, you can do EVERYTHING from the clie
[06:36] <Omr> Thanks because i only want to use CLI
[06:36] <ZachF_> so folks, is the best option for a slim install to install from the server image and add a DE on top of that? or is there a way to get rid of the bloat from the desktop image before i install?
[06:37] <Flannel> ZachF_: Server CD or the Alternate CD can install a CLI-only system
[06:37] <iceroot> ZachF_: so you only want gnome and not ubuntu-desktop?
[06:37] <Flannel> ZachF_: Desktop (Live) CD can't though
[06:37] <rocket16> I just downloaded the C++ Documentation from Synaptic. How do I start it?
[06:37] <idespinner> ZachF_, i think you can with the alternate cd iso...
[06:37] <rocket16> No menu or entry is there, please help.
[06:37] <ZachF_> iceroot, i want the full deal, but i dont want all the extra crap, all the misc editors and other bloat.
[06:38] <iceroot> ZachF_: misc editors? there is only gedit
[06:38] <ZachF_> one of the things i miss after going from ubuntu to arch is the tight desktop intergration.
[06:38] <rocket16> How to run C++ Documentation in Ubuntu?
[06:38] <idespinner> ZachF_, you sound like a gentoo kinda guy...
[06:38] <motaka2> >	as i have upgraded php5.2 to php 5.3 on ubuntu, it seems the gd2 library doesnt work anymore, you got the soloutions?
[06:38] <iceroot> rocket16: man command  i guess
[06:38] <Flannel> ZachF_: If you just want to remove the duplicate editors and stuff, removing them after install might be the way to go
[06:38] <Sensiva> Yeah but he loves apt
[06:39] <ZachF_> idespinner: i like the theory, but i dont have the patience for it
[06:39] <rocket16> man command? You mean man c++?
[06:39] <iceroot> rocket16: man cout
[06:39] <iceroot> rocket16: i guess
[06:40] <rocket16> Thanks iceroot, but showing "no entry"
[06:40] <Sensiva> ZachF_ if all fails, go Debian
[06:40] <rocket16> When I use man c++, just a manual page of c++ comes
[06:40] <iceroot> rocket16: and that is not what you want?
[06:40] <ddavids> hello
[06:40] <ZachF_> Sensiva: am i going to get the same dektop intergration (ie, click a file and it opens) with debian as i do with ubuntu?
[06:41] <rocket16> Not exactly, because the files were more than 20 MB, and total description of tutorial of C++ was promised there, :)
[06:41] <Sensiva> ZachF_ sure , actually what you are talking about is the environment itself Gnome or KDE
[06:41] <Flannel> ZachF_: Sensiva isn't really making sense.  There's no real benefit to going to debian for what you're looking for
[06:41] <Gheddy_Zarc> if I have two files with different exstensions as in one is .diff and other is .deb are they the same file in different formats ?
[06:42] <iceroot> ZachF_: yes but debian-gnome is much much older and the big problem is, that ubuntu is patching gnome like hell and not upstreaming the patches, so the debian-gnome is very different/not good
[06:42] <rocket16> Anyway, bye all, thanks.
[06:42] <ddavids> i have sound from my system's internal speakers when my headphones are connected, how do i fix this?
[06:42] <Omr> umm. Just a quick follow up question...  Every Dependency i download has a different dependency that has a different dependency.  I Have download 30 packages already,  When do i stop downloading dependencies?
[06:42] <Sensiva> Flannel he is looking for a light weight distro with apt as a package manager
[06:43] <iceroot> Sensiva: xubuntu
[06:43] <Omr> Doesn't DSL have apt
[06:43] <elf429> anyone know how i can get RealTek audio Drivers for Ubuntu 9.10?
[06:43] <elf429> i hear NOTHING!?
[06:43] <Omr> and only 50 megs with gui?
[06:43] <ZachF_> omr, i like "apt-get build-dep <package name>"
[06:43] <idespinner> Omr, is it automatic download
[06:43] <idespinner> ?
[06:43] <Magnesium> ZachF_: Try Xubuntu
[06:43] <Sensiva> iceroot he wants gnome desktop
[06:43] <helloyo> hey guys, is is possible to get the error output from openoffice?
[06:43] <Flannel> Sensiva: Debian doesn't give him anything that Ubuntu doesn't.  His original question was about building up from a command line only system vs removing extra stuff from a full desktop install
[06:43] <iceroot> helloyo: start it from the cli
[06:44] <ZachF_> Sensiva: im not swayed by any particular DE, i just want it to work
[06:44] <Sensiva> Flannel that the middle of the convo, he asked his main question a while ago, scroll up
[06:44] <Omr> as soon as i get the modem working i will use apt get commands :) thanks for info but im manually downloading from a MS OS till i get the dial up modem going
[06:44] <helloyo> iceroot, it has no output
[06:45] <Sensiva> ZachF_ then to xubuntu you go
[06:45] <Flannel> ZachF_: His first question was about server + packages or desktop - packages.  Like I said,
[06:45] <Flannel> er, blah.  Sensiva ^^
[06:45] <Sensiva> :D
[06:46] <ZachF_> so Flannel, like you said, my question remains, build up from CLI install or strip out the desktop install?
[06:46] <ZachF_> i have a decent ADSL connection and reasonable data allowences, so im not worried about it either way.
[06:46] <Flannel> ZachF_: From what you said later, it sounded like you didn't have much to trim.  So stripping might be an easier way to go.
	hi folks, i moved from ubuntu to ArchLinux a few months ago and have greatly enjoyed the extra speed my system has gained by loosing the bloat, but not being a hugley *nix savvey user, i'm really starting to miss apt-* and the vast software repo's of ubuntu/debian. is there a way i can speed up my system using ubuntu, without loosing the usability?
[06:47] <Sensiva> That's what he said ^^
[06:48] <ZachF_> Flannel: ok then, i'll go with that, my next and hopefully final questionf (for tonight) is about kernals, is there anything to gain by using the server vs. desktop images in that regard?
[06:48] <Flannel> ZachF_: You're using this computer by sitting in front of it and using a keyboard/mouse that's plugged directly into it, right?
[06:49] <ZachF_> Flannel: yeah its a laptop...
[06:49] <Flannel> ZachF_: You'll want the generic kernel then, not the server one
[06:49] <MiliasColds> hello
[06:49] <MiliasColds> do
[06:50] <MiliasColds> so
[06:50] <ZachF_> ok then, thanks for everyone thats helped me =) hopefully i'll see you on the other side of a successful install =)
[06:50] <Flannel> ZachF_: If, in the future, you decide to install from the server CD (alternate CD installs generic by default), you'll want to switch over to linux-generic from the server kernel as well
[06:50] <MiliasColds> i gots a question
[06:50] <Briareos1> how can i add an icon to the gnome desktop via the terminal / SSH?
[06:51] <eremite> How do I force FireFox to ask if I want to save a password?  YouTube isnt letting me save the username and password for 2 of my accounts, but YouTube is NOT in the list (Preferences>Security>Exceptions).  How can I fix this? Thanks in advance.  Oh, and I dont want to install any plugins to fix it.
[06:52] <Flannel> Briareos1: ~/Desktop is the desktop, so add a file there
[06:52] <Flannel> MiliasColds: ask the question and anyone who knows the answer will answer it
[06:52] <MiliasColds> is there a reason a hard disk would show up to the os (mountable) and gparted, but not in the installer. this was usung IDE and AHCI on bios settings
[06:52] <Briareos1> Flannel: Thank you, do you happen to know how I can add Menue-Entrys to the main menue (applications) as well?
[06:53] <Flannel> Briareos1: That's *.desktop files in uh... /usr/share/applications? /usr/share/something
[06:53] <eremite> Briareos1, right click the menu and choose Edit Menus.
[06:54] <xfact> How to remove old downloaded packages via command line? (The command)
[06:54] <davix> helo,  I've broken my apt-get with a bad repository, I tried apt-get -f install and it won't let me fix it, also tried with --purge. what else can I try?
[06:54] <eremite> xfact, "rm"
[06:54] <Briareos1> Flannel hmm and how does gnome know if the menue-entries should be displayed for a certain user or not?
[06:54] <xfact> It some kind of 'apt-get clean' or something, I am not sure, please tell me the command
[06:55] <Briareos1> xfact: apt-get autoremove
[06:55] <mneptok> Briareos1: incorrect
[06:55] <davix> also tried that Briareos1
[06:55] <mneptok> xfact: you typed the command.
[06:55] <Flannel> Briareos1: I believe those are XML files with all sorts of stuff in them, so ... something magical inside I imagine
[06:55] <Briareos1> ok
[06:55] <Briareos1> Flannel I guess I'll stick to desktop items then :)
[06:55] <Sensiva> davix What do you mean by broken with a bad repos?
[06:55] <eremite> How do I force FireFox to ask if I want to save a password?  YouTube isnt letting me save the username and password for 2 of my accounts, but YouTube is NOT in the list (Preferences>Security>Exceptions).  How can I fix this? Thanks in advance.  Oh, and I dont want to install any plugins to fix it.
[06:56] <xfact> Briareos1, Just that or after the command I have to write any specific package name?
[06:56] <indus> MiliasColds, yes the installer aint perfect
[06:56] <mneptok> xfact: sudo apt-get clean
[06:56] <Briareos1> xfact: that removes _unused_ packages
[06:56] <Briareos1> xfact: i mean the autoremove
[06:56] <MiliasColds> so any way to install then?
[06:57] <Briareos1> xfact: see the man: man apt-get
[06:57] <xfact> mneptok, and Briareos1 Thank you :)
[06:57] <Sensiva> MiliasColds how did you start the installer?
[06:57] <MiliasColds> well fomr the desktop of my live CD or from the boot menu "install" option, either way
[06:57] <git__> does anyone find that chrome is faster than firefox 3.5?
[06:58] <MiliasColds> from the live cd the desktop shortcut thing
[06:58] <eremite> git__, yes.  Much faster.
[06:58] <Sensiva> MiliasColds booted the livecd from a harddrive? or burnt cd?
[06:58] <indus> MiliasColds, so how many hard disks do you have? how many partitions
[06:58] <MiliasColds> burnt cd
[06:58] <MiliasColds> 1, 2 partitions
[06:58] <MiliasColds> on SATA 6 of 6
[06:58] <MiliasColds> to be specific
[06:59] <MiliasColds> the other five drives are without power atm as to prevent any possibility of me messing them up
[06:59] <ardchoille> !hcl > ^sn00per^
[07:00] <ddavids> pls i cant see the network and i have installed all the available network tools
[07:02] <Omr> is it possible to run apt-get thru a proxy?
[07:02] <SwedeMike> Omr: yes.
[07:03] <MiliasColds> well
[07:03] <Omr> are you able to elaborate? i cant find info with google
[07:03] <MiliasColds> thanks for the hinst so far
[07:04] <SwedeMike> Omr: the first hit on google for <apt-get proxy" states exactly what to do.
[07:04] <Omr> ill try again i got installing pigin
[07:04] <SwedeMike> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96802 which is the "I feel lucky"-hit for me for that search.
[07:05] <Omr> pidgen i mean
[07:05] <Omr> but i searched slightly different
[07:05] <SwedeMike> what did you search for? I'm curious.
[07:05] <motaka2> can anyone help me installing gd on php5.3 ?
[07:07] <AnthonyZbierajew>
[07:07] <theadmin> Which variable contains current hostname?
[07:08] <davix> I've broken my apt-get with a bad repository, I tried apt-get -f install and it won't let me fix it, also tried with --purge, autoremove and clean. none helped and the package is still stuck what else can I try?
[07:09] <^sn00per^> i have question ..  what is RC kernel .. never heard of that term..  been out of loop with linux development for a while..
[07:10] <zenlunatic> probably release candadite
[07:10] <theadmin> ^sn00per^: RC = Release Candidate
[07:10] <MiliasColds> well since i seem to have lost my audience i think i need to think about the sleep
[07:11] <^sn00per^> zenlunatic, theadmin thank you ..
[07:12] <SwedeMike> ^sn00per^: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel#Development_model
[07:13] <SwedeMike> hm, but that actually doesn't mention rc
[07:13] <SwedeMike> someone needs to update it :P
[07:13] <e3as> My network-manager is removed and i am unable to access network how to bring it back
[07:14] <theadmin> ^sn00per^: Although, if you see "rc" in output of "dpkg -l", it's actually "Has to be removed, but some configuration files are left"
[07:14] <theadmin> e3as: If you just removed the applet - right click the panel, choose add to panel, find it there.
[07:15] <mosquito> hai
[07:15] <mosquito> hai..........................
[07:15] <mosquito> how are you all?
[07:15] <theadmin> mosquito: Hello
[07:15] <mosquito> thank you..
[07:15] <theadmin> mosquito: It's offtopic here :D
[07:16] <mosquito> i m sorry..i am for the first time here..
[07:16] <thecliff> Mosquito: Hello :D
[07:16] <MiliasColds> same
[07:16] <MiliasColds> :P
[07:16] <mosquito> hai the cliff...
[07:16] <Sukuoru> Hi all
[07:16] <geniv> hi
[07:17] <Hamburger> so no one has any expertise with samba?
[07:17] <e3as> my network-manager and network-manager-gnome is removed how to bring it back
[07:17] <mxweas> how do I tell tcpdump to save entire packets that it intercepts?
[07:17] <mxweas> right now -w only saves small chunks
[07:17] <mxweas> I'd also like it to save header info like POST data and stuff.
[07:17] <MiliasColds> is there a reason a hard disk would show up to the os (mountable) and gparted, but not in the installer. this was usung IDE and AHCI on bios settings
[07:17] <e3as> Hi anyone there
[07:17] <MiliasColds> --remessage since i lost interest
[07:19] <^sn00per^> theadmin: ahh.. thank you..
[07:19] <e3as> anyone there
[07:21] <Omr> is there a way to change my passphrase?
[07:21] <theadmin> Omr: Passphrase for what?
[07:22] <Omr> umm just during install it asked for a passphrase i put in a 256 digit phrase: Now i need to type it every boot
[07:22] <dv-> does anyone use firestarter? how do I allow UDP ports?
[07:23] <Omr> Its really hard to memorise 256 random letters and numbers
[07:23] <e3as> yjfjh
[07:23] <Omr> Does no one else have a passphrase on boot?
[07:23] <e3as> H!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[07:23] <mxweas> you can change it in grub I believe
[07:23] <mxweas> when you go to change boot settings
[07:23] <e3as> anyone there
[07:23] <mattgyver> does swap space need to be setup on the drive which contains the OS installation, or can it be on another drive.  I have a 40GB SSD that i will be putting ubu on, though would like to put the swap on my 300GB drive instead.
[07:24] <mxweas> you can also remove it by removing the file in /boot/
[07:24] <mxweas> I dunno off the top of my head what file its in though
[07:24] <e3as> Yelp Yelp Yelp Yelp Yelp Yelp Yelp Yelp Yelp
[07:24] <mxweas> google around :)
[07:24] <mxweas> e3as: stfu pls
[07:24] <d_rwin> how do i get samba configured in client wiith windows network; need to setup a print server
[07:24] <rww> ubottu: sftu | mxweas
[07:24] <mxweas> lol
[07:24] <rww> ubottu: stfu | mxweas
[07:24] <Myrtti> !offtopic | e3as
[07:24] <rww> ubottu need spelling correction :3
[07:24] <e3as> MXWEAS
[07:25] <mattgyver> d_rwin, you need to edit smb.conf, basically just make sure the workgroup name is right and that should get the basics setup
[07:25] <intx> is there a command line way to find the fastest mirror?
[07:25] <Omr> Thanks mxweas i will lookinto it
[07:25] <mxweas>  how do I tell tcpdump to save all packet data? -w currently only saves small chunks. It doesnt appear to be saving any header POST data either.
[07:25] <geekyogi> I want to add 32 bit repo.. but am running 64 bit ubuntu OS
[07:26] <ZachF_> the desktop image will boot into a live system?
[07:26] <d_rwin> mattgyver: installed nautilus-share but need password(no password set)
[07:26] <dsnyders> HI all!  startx starts the x server.  What's the command to stop it?
[07:27] <mattgyver> d_rwin, try just using your login info
[07:27] <d_rwin> mattgyver: not accepting
[07:27] <theadmin> ZachF_: Yes. You can just install too, but it will start a live session first, and then run ubiquity-gtk (the graphical installer)
[07:27] <mattgyver> d_rwin, you are trying to connect to a windows share currently?
[07:28] <d_rwin> mattgyver: yes
[07:28] <d_rwin> mattgyver: using ubuntu 8.10
[07:28] <geekyogi> I want to add 32 bit repo.. but am running 64 bit ubuntu OS.. when i add the deb repo source... it checks for amd64.. so unable to install... any help..!!!
[07:28] <Gheddy_Zarc> how do you add a cd as a repo Im getting the error "no package list found" when I attempt to add a c as a repo in synaptic
[07:28] <Omr> i take it apt-get update updates the OS?
[07:28] <Omr> Its working thru the proxy downloading tonnes of data
[07:29] <Myrtti> Omr: no, just refresh the package lists
[07:29] <Omr> hmm ok man im going to get a big cellphone bill this month lol
[07:29] <mattgyver> d_rwin, you could try creating a samba user with the same username and password your using in windows, smbpasswd -a username-here
[07:29] <mattgyver> after pressing enter it will ask you for a password
[07:29] <mattgyver> Im not sure if thats gonna settle it though.
[07:30] <geekyogi>  I want to add 32 bit repo.. but am running 64 bit ubuntu OS.. when i add the deb repo source... it checks for amd64.. so unable to install... any help..!!!
[07:30] <scy_th3> I currently use centos for my webserver. Can someone explain the difference between ubuntu and other linux distributions when it comes to security?
[07:31] <geekyogi>  I want to add 32 bit repo.. but am running 64 bit ubuntu OS.. when i add the deb repo source... it checks for amd64.. so unable to install... any help..!!!
[07:31] <dsnyders> geekyogi, asking every five minutes isn't going to help if nobody knows.
[07:31] <geekyogi> @dsnyders k.. :(
[07:31] <d_rwin> mattgyver: do I need to set smbclient
[07:31] <Gheddy_Zarc> hi Omr are you getting  a cellphone going as a modem ? I been trying to get a usb mobile modem to work eh
[07:32] <mattgyver> d_rwin, not to my knowlege.
[07:32] <mattgyver> d_rwin, have you configured samba or are you just using nautilus-share?
[07:32] <soicon> hi everybody at #Ubuntu
[07:33] <d_rwin> mattgyver: only nautilus share; but samba configured()default
[07:33] <mattgyver> d_rwin, can you pastebin your /etc/samba/smb.conf file?
[07:33] <tiger_> why it says no gtk-config?
[07:34] <mattgyver> d_rwin, for what its worth nautilus-share isnt really all its cracked out to be when it comes to working nicely with windows.  Samba while a little more involved works much better
[07:34] <calebjohnson> I was under the impression that samba works by default on ubuntu 9.10..
[07:35] <mattgyver> calebjohnson, im pretty sure its installed by default in most versions however it still has to be configured
[07:35] <wunjo> Yes it does
[07:35] <wunjo>  thank the almighty
[07:35] <calebjohnson> err.... i didnt configure it.
[07:35] <wunjo> by default
[07:35] <wunjo> smb works in 9.10
[07:35] <calebjohnson> yup
[07:36] <d_rwin> mattgyver: ll try
[07:36] <wunjo> Its funny on a wifi network
[07:36] <d_rwin> mattgyver: just need to setup aprint server
[07:37] <mattgyver> calebjohnson, samba is installed, and depending on certain configurations you may not need to do anything but nautlius-share isnt the same as samba
[07:37] <Guest78110> How do I enable Deluge to run at startup? I can't find the directory where it's located
[07:38] <wunjo> nautlis was buggy on me today when I mounted my ftp server
[07:38] <wunjo> It froze for a while
[07:39] <wunjo> First time for everything I guess...
[07:39] <papul> nautilus has stopped showing non mounted drives :(
[07:39] <papul> please help
[07:39] <wunjo> Thats a GUI pref papul
[07:39] <papul> wunjo, ?
[07:39] <wunjo> KDE or Gnome pap?
[07:40] <papul> wunjo, how to set that?
[07:40] <papul> wunjo, gnome
[07:40] <wunjo> k
[07:40] <wunjo> One sec
[07:41] <wunjo> Have you looked in gconf-editor yet?
[07:41] <wunjo> pap
[07:42] <papul> wunjo, nopes
[07:42] <darolu> papul: can you see your drives with fdisk?
[07:42] <papul> darolu, yes and i can mount them using pcmanfm
[07:43] <wunjo> Hey pap
[07:43] <papul> what wun?
[07:43] <wunjo> Are you new to Linux?
[07:43] <papul> wunjo, nopes
[07:43] <wunjo> ok
[07:43] <papul> wunjo, tell me what exactly to do
[07:44] <wunjo> Im working on that my friend
[07:44] <papul> wunjo, k
[07:44] <Guest78110> How do I enable Deluge to run at startup? I can't find the directory where it's located
[07:44] <wunjo> I have delt with something like this recently
[07:45] <theadmin> Guest78110: "which app-name" will give you the directory
[07:45] <soicon> @Guest78110: try  $locate "app name"
[07:45] <Guest78110> Ah, thanks. It was in usr/bin/deluge
[07:46] <babbio> hi to all
[07:46] <soicon> hi babbio
[07:46] <tiger_> is gtk-dev not installed by default?
[07:46] <soicon> dev packages may not include by default
[07:47] <theadmin> Yeah, tiger_, dev packages are not included defaultly
[07:47] <soicon> :D everytime I wana compile my apps, I allways have to install those dev packages
[07:48] <wunjo> have you gone into root to see if the same problem exists pap?
[07:48] <wunjo> or rather logged in
[07:48] <babbio> i have a problem....at office I'm behind a proxy server, so i need to setup all the program to authenticate via the proxy and when i come back to home I have to remove the proxy configuration and I have to do this every single days....so i would like to know if there is a configuration file in wich I could insert the proxy configuration so that i could make a script to do it automatically....is this possible?
[07:49] <theadmin> babbio: Don't know about configs, but you can just change the global proxy settings instead of changing every app
[07:49] <iDope> ok I have a server running fiesty fawn
[07:50] <iDope> and I want to dist-upgrade it all the way up to 9.10
[07:50] <Xaero252> Really bizzare issue, I've had my system on & stable for the past few weeks, but today I just came home and all of a sudden audio wasnt working, so I thought maybe I left a stream open and pulse bugged on me or something so i did pulseaudio -k && pulseaudio to restart it, only now it doesnt detect any audio devices
[07:50] <iDope> I don't have physical access
[07:50] <tiger_> theadmin: so which package should i install for gtk?
[07:50] <iDope> its a remote system so dist-upgrades are the only way.... anyone willing to help?
[07:50] <babbio> and it will work also for apt and so on?
[07:50] <Jordan_U> babbio, You can do it with network manager ( setup the proxy to be used when connected to one network but not the other )
[07:50] <stefano> could somone translate a mathematical equation to latex for me?
[07:50] <theadmin> iDope: Well, not the only way. You can download the alternate install ISO to it, and use that
[07:50] <tiger_> theadmin: or where should i look at?
[07:51] <theadmin> tiger_: Try to find in Synaptic, I can't remember all of that
[07:51] <babbio> I've looked for some related to proxy in network manager but i found nothing
[07:51] <Flannel> stefano: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a more appropriate channel to ask in than here
[07:51] <Jordan_U> iDope, Changing the sources.list and using apt-get dist-upgrade is NOT the proper way to upgrade
[07:51] <theadmin> babbio: System - Preferences - Network Settings
[07:51] <tiger_> theadmin: ok
[07:51] <Xaero252> iDope: http://sysblogd.wordpress.com/2008/05/14/ubuntu-hardy-heron-dist-upgrade-via-command-line/
[07:51] <Jordan_U> iDope, "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[07:51] <babbio> I'll try, thank u theadmin
[07:52] <Xaero252> iDope, read that page since you do not have direct access, it tells you what happens when you run the command as far as a new SSHD being run
[07:52] <iDope> theadmin: interesting
[07:52] <Flannel> Xaero252, iDope: a better URL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:52] <iDope> Jordan_U: thanx... that was what I was looking for.. as i had a feeling dist-upgrade wasnt proper
[07:52] <petsounds> hi. im trying to install karmic on my friend laptop, it's aspie 4530. but i can't make touchpad scrolling work. how can i fix it? thanks :)
[07:53] <steppenwolf> Hello everybody I want to install ubuntu on a double core machine HD= 180 GB and want to make a partition with XP, I have 3GB
[07:53] <steppenwolf> RA<M
[07:53] <ddavids> i have problems connecting my karmic to another ubuntu karmic in a network share...
[07:53] <Xaero252> Anyway, anybody know what might be up with pulse suddenly not seeing my audio drivers?
[07:54] <steppenwolf> RAM= 3GB how many what size and what types of partitions would you recomend
[07:54] <darolu> steppenwolf: boot with the LiveCD and then use Gparted (at system - admin)
[07:54] <steppenwolf> yeah I had think about that
[07:55] <soicon> @ steppenwolf: it depends on your need :D,
[07:55] <darolu> steppenwolf: that depends to you, I recommend to have / and /home separated (on different partitions); with your hardware 1GB of swap should do it
[07:55] <darolu> steppenwolf: I usually give 8 - 10 GB to my / partition, is more than enough for what I use
[07:56] <babbio> ok i setup a global proxy configuration in System-Preferences-NetworkProxy
[07:56] <tiger_> what is the difference between gtk and gnome?
[07:56] <dsnyders> HI all.  Can someone point me to a good site explaining xorg.conf, please.  I'm getting a signal that my monitor cannot display the resolution it's set to.
[07:56] <steppenwolf> exactly I was thinking on a 10GB for /
[07:56] <babbio> but in synaptic i can't connect
[07:56] <babbio> how to setup synaptic tu use global proxy configurations?
[07:56] <ardchoille> tiger_: gtk is a toolkit used to draw widgets for apps.. gnome is a desktop environment
[07:56] <darolu> steppenwolf: 10GB is more than enough for a regular desktop
[07:56] <ardchoille> tiger_: GTK = gimp tool kit
[07:57] <steppenwolf> with 3GB of RAM does it pay back 1GB of swap?
[07:57] <darolu> steppenwolf: I think so, you probably will never use more than 100MB of swap (depending on what you do) but 1GB would be my recommendation
[07:58] <dsnyders> darolu, I thought the recommendation was for 1.5* your ram?
[07:58] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, how to edit the Places menu? I want to add a folder to the menu.
[07:58] <steppenwolf> ok!! what about a partition to share documents between XP and linux?
[07:58] <soicon> 3GB RAM without running virtual machine is more than enough :D
[07:58] <iDope> excellent, its working :) thx Flannel
[07:58] <ardchoille> isolat3dsh33p: open nautilus and drag a folder to the Places pane
[07:59] <theadmin> steppenwolf: You can just put them on your XP partition, they should be accessible within Ubuntu this way
[07:59] <davix> I've broken my apt-get with a bad repository, I tried apt-get -f install and it won't let me fix it, also tried with --purge, autoremove and clean. none helped and the package is still stuck what else can I try?
[07:59] <darolu> dsnyders: I don't follow that recommendation, it is deprecated IMO, now there are systems with up to 8 or even 16GB and 4-8GB swaps are ridiculous imo (specially with home desktops)
[07:59] <[deXter]> Which are the best repo(s) to add to get the latest stable packages?
[07:59] <isolat3dsh33p> ardchoille, i don't know it'll be that easy. =_=... thanks btw ^_^
[07:59] <steppenwolf> how do I do that?
[08:00] <soicon> 8GB RAM :| so huge
[08:00] <zetheroo> anyone know how to use alien to convert from RPM to DEB?
[08:00] <steppenwolf> NTFS?
[08:00] <ardchoille> isolat3dsh33p: yw :)
[08:00] <zetheroo> I am just getting errors
[08:00] <ardchoille> !alien | zetheroo using alien is dangerous
[08:00] <dsnyders> darolu, Well, it has been a few years since I saw that recomendation (ie, back in the sub gigabyte ram days).
[08:00] <iDope> lol I'm installing on a system with 32GB ram that is at least 2 years old :)
[08:00] <darolu> steppenwolf: Ubuntu can mount windows partitions; the problem would be to mount Linux partitions on windows, it is possible, but you'd need to install additional software
[08:00] <generic> how can i make mpd NOT start automatically?
[08:00] <dsnyders> It could easily be depricated by now
[08:01] <soicon> :D iDope : that's your pC?
[08:01] <zetheroo> ardchoille: ok that is interesting .. funny it's never mentioned that it's dangerous ...
[08:01] <iDope> nope
[08:01] <[deXter]> zetheroo: What sort of errors?
[08:01] <iDope> thats a Sun Enterprise T2000 Server :)
[08:01] <iDope> My PC totally kicks its butt btw :)
[08:01] <ardchoille> zetheroo: I've been here for years and that factoid has always mentioned the dange3r
[08:01] <soicon> :O
[08:01] <iDope> Core i7 >>>> Sun UltraSparc T1
[08:01] <generic> I would like to run mpd seperately, but ubuntu keeps starting it, any idea how to make it not start it on boot?
[08:02] <zetheroo> [deXter]: Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package VMware-server: postinst postrm preinst prerm
[08:02] <dsnyders> Is there a text ui for configuring xorg.conf?
[08:02] <steppenwolf> so I use GPart to create 3 partitions 2 of them NTFS?
[08:02] <iDope> but mine only has 4G of RAM
[08:02] <zetheroo> ardchoille: uh, i meant elsewhere
[08:02] <soicon> oh...mine is just a old man, haha quite shocked
[08:02] <ardchoille> zetheroo: ah, ok
[08:02] <darolu> dsnyders: any text editor should get the work done
[08:02] <steppenwolf>  one swap
[08:02] <zetheroo> [deXter] error: incorrect format: unknown tag
[08:03] <[deXter]> zetheroo: Try upgrading the version of alien you have, looks like it's not supporting some features of the rpm..
[08:03] <dsnyders> darolu, I was hoping for something that didn't require me spending half an hour trying to unravel how xorg.conf works.
[08:03] <darolu> steppenwolf: I also recommend placing your swap between / and /home, so if use of swap is neede it would be accesible without your hard drive moving too much (hence gaining speed)
[08:03] <zetheroo> [deXter]: I just installed it
[08:04] <darolu> dsnyders: if you don't want learn how xorg.conf works you can use your video driver utilities to configure it; other option is xrandr
[08:05] <[deXter]> zetheroo: Then it could be that the rpm contains some functionality that alien doesn't know (yet) how to convert.. I recommend installing from source, to avoid potential problems..
[08:05] <ardchoille> zetheroo: Excuse me please, but what part of "dangerous" did you not understand? Perhaps you need to compile from source and build your own .deb?
[08:05] <BigMack83> in k9copy, when encoding a video from disc it uses the avi container. how can i change it to mp4 ?
[08:05] <mikesee> !mint
[08:05] <dsnyders> darolu, my xserver is dishing out video that my monitor can't display.  The driver utils are useless without a display.  I'll check xrander.
[08:05] <darolu> dsnyders: that kind of tools would help you with video configurations; other components like mice, keyboards, etc., won't be configured with them
[08:06] <steppenwolf> ok thats nice
[08:06] <steppenwolf> do I make NTFS partitions so XP can read them?
[08:06] <steppenwolf> at leas /home?
[08:06] <zetheroo> ardchoille: I understand dangerous ... but it's also a bit general and I would like to have a bit more information than just being told "it's dangerous" ... many people are doing it so it's working for some ...
[08:06] <mikesee> !mintsupport
[08:06] <darolu> steppenwolf: I wouldn't use ntfs for your home, stick to ext4; you can install programs to read linux paritions in windows xp
[08:06] <kevwilde> Hi, I maintain software which is available in the ubuntu repository. This is however a very old one (2.6) and we're currently not supporting that anymore. How do i get this package retracted from the repository?
[08:07] <iceroot> steppenwolf: dont make /home NTFS!!!
[08:07] <mikesee> dont they have a mint channel here on freenode?
[08:07] <ardchoille> zetheroo: Ah, you need to learn on your own.. good point
[08:07] <Myrtti> kevwilde: peeps in #ubuntu-motu might be able to help a bit more
[08:07] <soicon> :d strange idea <= /home is NTFS
[08:07] <iDope> dont make /home NTFS!!! EXACTLY!!!
[08:07] <mikesee> for some reason my mint installation now have the ubuntu loader
[08:07] <steppenwolf> ok
[08:07] <iceroot> steppenwolf: you want to access /home from a dualboot system with windows?
[08:08] <zetheroo> ardchoille: well i would prefer someone with an understanding of WHY it's dangerous would tell me .. :)
[08:08] <steppenwolf> yeap
[08:08] <iDope> mikesee: u did a dist upgrade?
[08:08] <iceroot> steppenwolf: you can install ext3 driver in windows or create something like /share  as vfat
[08:08] <mikesee> iDope: nope
[08:08] <iDope> mikesee: since when then?
[08:08] <[deXter]> mikesee: irc.spotchat.org and #linuxmint
[08:08] <darolu> iceroot: he is asking for recommendations to make new partitions, he intends to dual boot with windows xp
[08:08] <ardchoille> zetheroo: The bot maintainers know what they're doing and they're ubuntu devs, so I just thought that was good enough
[08:08] <Myrtti> zetheroo: redhat and similar use different paths and config options to debian/ubuntu. You might install a package that sets symlinks and directories the wrong way.
[08:08] <mikesee> iDope: just the normal apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[08:09] <theadmin> iceroot: steppenwolf: or as NTFS, that should be no problem for not Linux-specific partitions
[08:09] <Jordan_U> zetheroo, Because RPM install / removal scripts assume that you are on a red hat like system for one.
[08:09] <Myrtti> zetheroo: basically for the same reason, installing debian packages isn't supported either, but with alien there be even more dragons
[08:09] <iceroot> darolu: theadmin i just say dont use /home with NTFS
[08:09] <zetheroo> Myrtti: ok .. and I suppose that these wrong setups would be hard if not impossible to undo ...
[08:09] <iDope> mikesee: then i dunno...
[08:09] <soicon> hey guys, is it safe now to write on a NTFS part in Linux? some docs say "shouldn't", but I have written files on NTFS from Ubuntu for...2 years I don't see any problem :D xp is still working
[08:09] <Myrtti> zetheroo: exactly
[08:09] <iceroot> steppenwolf: yes
[08:09] <darolu> iceroot: I agree
[08:10] <iceroot> soicon: yes
[08:10] <Jordan_U> soicon, It's safe.
[08:10] <theadmin> Myrtti: Huh? "Installing debian packages is not supported"!? Ubuntu is debian-based
[08:10] <jpds> soicon: No, that documentation is old.
[08:10] <ardchoille> Myrtti: Thank you for that info :)
[08:10] <mikesee> iDope: its ok.. ill try #mint on the other network
[08:10] <zetheroo> Myrtti: ok ... wow ... someone should write a post about the dangers of using alien .. maybe I will ... thanks for the input
[08:10] <iceroot> theadmin: but there are difference between debian and ubuntu
[08:10] <Myrtti> theadmin: but ubuntu is not debian and there are some small but important differences.
[08:10] <[deXter]> zetheroo: It can be dangerous also, because you can end up overriding some libraries with versions that other packages installed in your system depend upon, therby (possibly) breaking tons of packages..
[08:10] <iceroot> theadmin: e.g. dependencies for fixed versions
[08:11] <theadmin> iceroot: Well, uh, I usually see no problems... altough I rarely use debian packages as such, commonly Ubuntu ones are there along with those
[08:11] <iceroot> theadmin: some programs are installing different on ubuntu then on debian (phpmyadmin, mediawiki for e.g.)
[08:11] <steppenwolf> ok so I could make an additional partition to share between the two OS's right?
[08:11] <zetheroo> [deXter]: I see .. ok ... well i will have to wait to get my hands on the tar.gz package ;)
[08:11] <steppenwolf> and it could be NTFS
[08:11] <theadmin> steppenwolf: Yep.
[08:11] <steppenwolf> ok
[08:11] <steppenwolf> thanks a lot!!
[08:11] <jazz> is there a freenode channel to talk to a staffer?
[08:11] <theadmin> steppenwolf: You can access your Windows partitions with Ubuntu too
[08:12] <iceroot> jazz: #freenode
[08:12] <Myrtti> jazz: #freenode
[08:12] <steppenwolf> Ok thnks!!!
[08:13] <soicon> but steppenwolf: remember don't try removing any files in your  root partition  "C:" of windows when you are in Ubuntu :D
[08:13] <soicon> my sister did it lol
[08:13] <jazz> Myrtti,  thanks again
[08:14] <^sn00per^> zetheroo: why they said its dangerous..  its like you dropping a different motor like Ford into a chevy car..  and you would have to change everything to adapt the motor to accomidate it .. (in layman terms)
[08:15] <zetheroo> ^sn00per^ : I bit late ;) but I appreciate your input ... and I think I get the idea :P
[08:15] <theadmin> soicon: lol :D I have /media/Windows/WINDOWS as 700, so nobody touches that in Ubuntu
[08:15] <zetheroo>  ^sn00per^: *A* bit late
[08:16] <^sn00per^> zetheroo: i m a little slow today..  didnt realized that you got the idea..
[08:16] <zetheroo> cheers ;)
[08:16] <soicon> :d theadmin: yeah
[08:17] <^sn00per^> is there a kernel that is tailored to eepc ?
[08:17] <[deXter]> ^sn00per^: Just get EEEbuntu
[08:18] <Layne> Hey im new to ubuntu, was wondering what A terminal is, I have about 15 open, thought it was a program and now I cant close them, can someone help me please
[08:19] <[deXter]> Layne: Press Alt+F4 to close them..
[08:19] <Gheddy_Zarc> click the x in the corner Layne
[08:19] <Layne> which x?
[08:19] <[deXter]> Top-right-corner
[08:20] <zetheroo> Layne: you thought it was a program? well it is ... but why would you open 15 instances of the same program!??!?!?
[08:20] <zetheroo> :D
[08:20] <Layne> I dont know.... :(
[08:20] <zetheroo> neither to I :P
[08:20] <Gheddy_Zarc> its the interface for talking to the pc eh Layne, you can do fun stuff in there eh
[08:20] <Layne> It wouldnt open the first time, so I kept trying and now I have 15 plus 10 more that opened
[08:20] <Layne> must have lagged out
[08:21] <zetheroo> Layne: have you closed them ?
[08:21] <futura> hey i have an RCA mp3 player, can i create an ubuntu live on it?
[08:21] <alphacharlie_> currently i have 2 workspaces.how can i add a 3rd one?
[08:21] <Layne> no, they wont close
[08:21] <Layne> my computer said critical failure
[08:21] <zetheroo> Layne: go to System Monitor and kill them
[08:21] <zetheroo> huh?
[08:21] <Layne> killing sounds very graphic..
[08:21] <zetheroo> uhmmm .... ha
[08:21] <Layne> are you guys pulling my leg herE?
[08:21] <zetheroo> System > Administration > System monitor
[08:22] <zetheroo> I am not pulling any part of you ...
[08:22] <soicon> theadmin: but do you use ntfs-config packages ?
[08:22] <zetheroo> click on the Processes tab and kill those terminals
[08:22] <Layne> my mom is the administrator on this computer, should I wake her up and ask her to close it, if I need admin persmission
[08:22] <zetheroo> Layne: your kidding right!?
[08:22] <futura> lmao
[08:22] <Layne> ...no
[08:22] <soicon> :D
[08:22] <soicon> :))
[08:22] <futura> ROFL
[08:22] <Layne> should I wake her or not? she wont be happy..
[08:23] <futura> screencap for /b/ of this.
[08:23] <zetheroo> Layne: you don't need admin rights to kill processes
[08:23] <Layne> you said system>administration
[08:23] <Layne> but why would my mom need to do that?
[08:23] <ddavids> i have problems connecting my karmic to another ubuntu karmic in a network share...can anyone help?
[08:23] <zetheroo> Layne; read up
[08:23] <Layne> ddavids I need help with a real issue here
[08:24] <Layne> I have 36 terminals open now
[08:24] <zetheroo> Layne: funny that you would have the know-how to get onto IRC but not the know-how to kill a process
[08:24] <soicon> ddavids: what kind of share?
[08:24] <Flannel> zetheroo: Funny how those are entirely unrelated
[08:24] <futura> Layne: if all else fails, manually shut off the system, boot back up and try again.
[08:24] <zetheroo> Layne: unless your just messign around in here ...
[08:24] <ddavids> printer share, folder shares...
[08:24] <Layne> I really dont know what im doing here.....
[08:24] <Layne> im seriously on the verge of tears
[08:25] <Layne> if I mess my dads computer up hes going to hit me in the face
[08:25] <zetheroo> Flannel: just the level of know-how ... not related in any particular way ...
[08:25] <futura> Layne: what exactly is the problem? ill help anyway i can
[08:25] <soicon> so ddavids did you visit the System > Admin .. > Printing
[08:25] <zetheroo> Flannel: I think someone is just having a laugh ...
[08:25] <Xaero252> Okay, so my sound quit working randomly today, but it still works for my virtual machine, just not anything that attempts to use pulse...
[08:25] <ddavids> yes pls
[08:26] <zetheroo> Layne: then shut the machine down or log off ... :P
[08:26] <ddavids> but i cant even view the other karmic sysytem host...
[08:26] <Layne> I live in Adelaide south australia, my dad is strict
[08:26] <soicon> ddavids: try pinging the other host
[08:26] <zetheroo> Layne: that should teach you not to mess with other people's stuff ... :-/
[08:26] <zetheroo> Layne: where in Adelaide?
[08:26] <ddavids> so going to add a printer is futile...
[08:26] <Layne> please, I dont want to get hit in the face =/
[08:26] <futura> how do you PM people in irc chats?
[08:27] <Madpilot> futura, /msg <nick> <msg>
[08:27] <Layne> gover ave..
[08:27] <Layne> glover*
[08:27] <futura> Madpilot: ty
[08:27] <wunjo> anyone got magic jack working yet? in Ubuntu...
[08:27] <Flannel> Layne: Please stop.  Nothing about having those programs open will damage your computer.
[08:27] <Madpilot> Layne, gnome-terminal windows should have an X button top-right corner.
[08:28] <zetheroo> Aussies ...  ha
[08:28] <soicon> and what type of reply message?
[08:29] <futura> nothing you haven't already told her twice!
[08:29] <ddavids> soicon: this is the only reply - PING <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[08:29] <Staley> I GOT KICKED!
[08:30] <soicon> ddavids: check your IP configuration on that machine
[08:30] <futura> hmmmmm
[08:30] <soicon> dhcp or static? both machines are on the same subnet or not?
[08:30] <Flannel> futura: Please read and become familiar with the IRC guidelines listed in the topic, thanks.
[08:31] <Madpilot> futura, just for future reference, the "two black eyes" thing - not actually funny.
[08:31] <ddavids> u mean with ifconfig?
[08:31] <soicon> ddavids: yes
[08:31] <huayra> I have a problem with my screens. I want the big one (not the one in the laptop) to be the main one, but I can't seem to find anyway to rearrange the order of the screens
[08:31] <futura> Bah, y'all just are just lefties.
[08:31] <zetheroo> futura: seriously ... >:o
[08:31] <huayra> anyone here has any idea of how to do this?
[08:31] <ddavids> both are on the same subnet..
[08:32] <soicon> ddavids: you should ping it again, and wait a little bit to see the message
[08:32] <huayra> I run on 9.10 on an Intel graphic card
[08:32] <ddavids> soicon: the message it's adding is "PING <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[08:32] <ddavids> From <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=47 Packet filtered
[08:32] <ddavids> From <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=146 Packet filtered
[08:33] <soicon> oh packet filtered
[08:33] <ddavids> soicon: what do u think tht means?
[08:33] <soicon> what from <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[08:33] <soicon> that's not your subtnet rite?
[08:34] <Xaero252> huayra: try dragging the screens in the screen settings
[08:34] <ddavids> the subnet on both sysytems are the same...
[08:34] <^sn00per^> is chrome any better than firefox?
[08:34] <soicon> any firewalls working ?
[08:34] <soicon> #iptables -F
[08:34] <soicon> on both
[08:35] <ddavids> no firewalls...
[08:36] <skydrome> how do you do multiple commands on separate lines in terminal?
[08:36] <Xaero252> mrgh, i didnt hate pulse until today, so I've pulseaudio -f which gives me some error about processing the command line and I've tried killall pulseaudio && pulseaudo, and rebooting the computer only gets sound working within my xp VM
[08:36] <huayra> Xaero252, it does not work
[08:36] <Xaero252> skydrome: \ [return]
[08:36] <skydrome> k
[08:37] <Xaero252> skydrome: obviously after the first command
[08:37] <skyshi>  :)
[08:37] <skydrome> :p yes
[08:37] <Staley> vait vait vait, vat?
[08:37] <huayra> Xaero252: har tried that already... There must be a setting in which you can define which screen you want to be primary
[08:37] <generic> how can i make mpd NOT start automatically?
[08:37] <skyshi> good evening
[08:37] <generic> I would like to run mpd seperately, but ubuntu keeps starting it, any idea how to make it not start it on boot?
[08:37] <ddavids> soicon: i have no firewalls...
[08:37] <Flannel> generic: You want it to run as a daemon, just not on boot? or not as a daemon at all?
[08:37] <ruby_on_tails> hello
[08:37] <Xaero252> huayra: you can always edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, just make sure to backup first
[08:37] <ddavids> soicon: there are no firewalls on both system...
[08:38] <soicon> ddavids:  your topology please?
[08:38] <maxagaz> what application should I use to record both sound and image with my webcam on my computer ?
[08:38] <generic> Flannel: *I* want to start it
[08:38] <generic> ubuntu's config is completely broke
[08:38] <ruby_on_tails> I want to use rdesktop on a window machine on lan. What do I have to install on the windows machine to view it ?
[08:38] <ddavids> soicon: what is topology?
[08:38] <skyshi> so fast
[08:38] <Flannel> generic: You want to start it as a daemon? or as a regular program?
[08:38] <generic> I have my own working config for mpdf
[08:38] <ruby_on_tails> ddavids: topology = contour based on height
[08:38] <generic> Flannel: as a deamon, under my user name
[08:38] <soicon> ddavids: the model of your subnet
[08:39] <generic> Flannel: by default it will run at boot undert "mpd"
[08:39] <Flannel> generic: by default it shouldn't start, unless you tell it to in its config file
[08:39] <generic> I want it to not start at boot, I can do the rest
[08:39] <soicon> like:  DHCP router ----Switch------|--------Ubuntu 1
[08:39] <sayanpha> helo
[08:39] <soicon> .......................................|_____________Ubuntu 2
[08:39] <generic> Flannel: thats funny. because by defualt it does
[08:40] <generic> in /etc/init.d/
[08:40] <futurama140> Can someone tell me, is it possible to run a livecd off an MP3 player? Anyone? it shouldnt be a hard question for any experienced user i would assume.
[08:40] <ddavids> soicon: u mean the value? <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:40] <generic> in other distos it does not
[08:40] <Flannel> generic: it might be in init.d, but until you set some stuff it will exit and not do anything
[08:40] <soicon>  ddavids:  just issue route -n on both
[08:40] <soicon> and let me know the output
[08:40] <generic> Flannel: ubuntu "sets some stuff"
[08:41] <generic> thats why it starts
[08:41] <Flannel> generic: I have no idea what you're talking about
[08:41] <futurama140> Can someone tell me, is it possible to run an ubuntu livecd off an MP3 player? Anyone? it shouldnt be a hard question for any experienced user i would assume.
[08:41] <generic> w/e
[08:41] <Flannel> generic: but, all the normal "tweak startup stuff" will work
[08:41] <Flannel> !bum | generic
[08:44] <generic> ok cool, thx Flannel
[08:44] <Jordan_U> futurama140: If it shows up as a standard USB Mass Storage Device then yes.
[08:45] <futurama140> Jordan_U: ok, thank you! unetbootin right now XD
[08:45] <ddavids> soicon: can i ask a stupid question? i have two internet modems connected to the router and shared among the office system, is it possible tht my problem is borne out of the fact tht each computer may have conneceted to a different isp and as such have different ip address which is causing this network share issues?
[08:46] <soicon> ddavids: From <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=47 Packet filtered <= that's it haha
[08:46] <Jordan_U> futurama140: Depending on the mp3 player you may even be able to run linux on the hardware itself :)
[08:47] <soicon> you ping <IP_ADDRESS> but the reply is  From <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:47] <swamytk_> quit
[08:47] <soicon> a internet ip addr
[08:47] <soicon> an*
[08:47] <soicon> why just do the normal stuff in your local area network
[08:48] <generic> Now anyone here removed pulseaudio?
[08:48] <generic> Can I just remove it and it will defualt to alsa?
[08:49] <[deXter]> Hey all, any recommendations for a Run-like launcher?
[08:50] <futurama140> Jordan_U: that would be pretty sweet, but right now im just eager to install ubuntu, i have no cd drive, and my only other usb storage device is a 128mb thumb drive, and thats hard to work with XD
[08:50] <[deXter]> Something that can not only launch apps, but also search for docs and browse the fileystem..
[08:51] <xreal> How can I list the content of a bz2 file?
[08:52] <soicon> xreal: I double click on it :D
[08:52] <xreal> terminal only...
[08:52] <xreal> I want to know the size when unextracted
[08:53] <grub_jump>  can anybody tell me where compressed kernel is located on disk ?
[08:54] <frakor> grub_jump : / or /boot
[08:55] <coldserver> I have a continuously running process that outputs stuff to stdout and stderr, I would like it to *also* redirect the same output to a file. I have looked at tee but it doesnt seem to work.
[08:55] <grub_jump> @frakor But this code is at 1 MB during bootup . right ?
[08:56] <k4rt33k> Anyone knows how to add a .php extension using rewrite rules to the links? I need a quick-fix solution as I want the site up and running fast.
[08:56] <frakor> grub_jump yes maybye need initrd.gz for booting : sorry for my english
[08:56] <crdlb> xreal: without extracting it first?
[08:56] <^sn00per^> hrm..  i wonder if there is ati moblity radeon drivers for ubuntu?
[08:57] <scy_th3>  /channel #irssi
[08:58] <Err404NotFound> can i hide a tar.gz file in a sh file such that when needed i can extract the attached hidden archive within that sh?
[08:58] <k4rt33k> b
[08:58] <grub_jump> frakor : grub ( bootloader ) is responsible for jumping to that location. Can I change that location  ?
[08:58] <Err404NotFound> where sh is shell script :)
[08:58] <Void42> Hi, i got 2 Monitors with different Resolutions (Twinview, 1280x1024, 1360x768). How can i prevent that the mouse moves out of the screen on the smaller Monitor (1360x768) at the bottom?
[09:00] <frakor> grub_jump grub older 2 has menu.lst in /boot/grub edit it.
[09:00] <crdlb> Err404NotFound: a quick googling revealed 'makeself' which appears to be in the repos
[09:01] <grub_jump> frakor:  Is it possible to copy code of 1 MB to another location and jump to that code from grub itself ?
[09:03] <^sn00per^> ARGH...  i hate those japanse keyboard layout on this viao netbook
[09:03] <frakor> grub_jump your kernel is new compile?
[09:03] <huayra> displayconfig-gtl used to be a way to define which screen should be primary
[09:03] <huayra> now gnome is too smart for me and I just cam't define the primary screen
[09:04] <frakor> geniv hi!
[09:04] <huayra> sometimes simple tasks get very irritating and difficult  with Ubuntu...
[09:04] <[eXception]> hi
[09:04] <[eXception]> how to connect to exchange 2007 with evolution?
[09:04] <grub_jump> frakor: no not. Is there need ?
[09:04] <sagaci> huayra: what tasks
[09:05] <geniv> frakor: franto ty si i tu? :D
[09:05] <Kartagis> !english | geniv
[09:06] <frakor> grub_jump: then edit menu.lst
[09:06] <grub_jump> frakor:  ok thanx.,..
[09:08] <geniv> Kartagis: sorry..
[09:09] <marek_> hey guys. im a real noob with subtitle editor. how do i preview the subtitles i have created within the movie?
[09:10] <frakor> grub_jump : sorry i translate very slowly
[09:10] <soicon> marek_: just open movie player then > View => Subtitles => load...
[09:10] <soicon> and choose the sub file
[09:11] <soicon> marek_: just open movie player then > View => Subtitles => Select... (not load)
[09:12] <johntramp> can i mark certain packages to use development versions through synaptic, or do i need to install them manually?
[09:12] <nibbler> johntramp: you talk of the -dev packets? you can install them using aptitude/synaptic...
[09:12] <chipgeri> i have curl installed still i am getting "Call to undefined function curl_init()" error when i run a php file
[09:13] <marek_> soicon: thank you very much:) helped
[09:13] <nibbler> chipgeri: php5-curl is the packet you need
[09:13] <nibbler> chipgeri: and maybe a apache2ctl restart
[09:14] <caravaggio> !list
[09:14] <ter39> `/help
[09:15] <ter39> COUNTRY
[09:17] <objorn> i attempted to have dwm be my wm inside gnome, i failed. how do i reset it to the default?
[09:17] <objorn> to use metacity instead of dwm
[09:19] <objorn> gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity --type string
[09:20] <numberONE> linux mint 8 is buggy
[09:20] <numberONE> i went back to ubuntu
[09:21] <maxagaz> my karmic doesn't mount usb devices anymore, but I can mount them manually, does someone know how to solve it ?
 php5-curl is alredy installed and websamples doesnot have any problem but when i run on commandline i am getting curl_init() error
[09:22] <DrOwl-U5> hoot
[09:22] <nibbler> chipgeri: sorry, no idea then :|
[09:22] <DrOwl-U5> Any one else had todays update brake firefox?
[09:22] <stix> Is there a simpler picture-editing program than gimp? I can't even find out how to insert i straight line - much to advanced. I just need to cut something from screendumps and maybe insert some arrows etc.
[09:24] <ter39> hi maxagaz use mount /dev/s**  /mnt to mount u r pen drive on mnt manually
[09:27] <indus> stix, drawing tools?
[09:27] <Jordan_U> stix, kolorpaint4
[09:28] <stix> indus, maybe - I don't know that one
[09:28] <maxagaz> ter39, that's what I'm doing
[09:28] <stix> doesn't have it installed
[09:28] <chris|> Stik, try http://pinta-project.com
[09:29] <maxagaz> ter39, but I'd like the usb automount to work automatically again
[09:29] <ubuntu_> hi all
[09:29] <LocaxTii> Hello
[09:30] <ubuntu_> how do i change my nic
[09:30] <charichorizo> haha
[09:31] <jazz> ubuntu http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup i was just looking into that as far as regestering
[09:31] <indus> stix, http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Straight_Line/
[09:32] <d_rwin> |network server:samba
[09:33] <ter39> maxagaz there is a script in /etc/  auto.misc usb.rules something like that i done it in red hat it was successfull but a long time ago
[09:33] <ter39> try it
[09:33] <k4rt33k> !rewriterules
[09:36] <tiger_> what is the difference between su and sudo?
[09:36] <ter39> tiger used to switch user and sudo is used to run commands with root's privillage
[09:37] <ter39> tiger su is used to switch user
[09:37] <tiger_> ter39: both have the same password, right?
[09:38] <ter39> no su has pass of the user to which u r switching e.g. su - user1 sudo has only of root
[09:38] <spexi> Hi! I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 64bit gnome. Is there any keyboard mapping software, that I could simply switch two keys or just define x key to be key y?
[09:39] <DrOwl-U5> how would i revert to an older version of a package, i have a fealing that the update to xulrunner has broken firefox
[09:39] <spexi> I'm using apple keyboard, so for example alt and win buttons are wrong way, I would like to switch them.
[09:39] <Grge> hi, can I run a task as cron would run it I mean with the same enviroment and user permissions and stuff, cause on of my tasks doesn't want to run, and i dont know why, no error output
[09:39] <erUSUL> !pinning | DrOwl-U5
[09:40] <erUSUL> spexi: System>Preferences>keyboard
[09:40] <DrOwl-U5> thanks ubottu ill have a look
[09:40] <tiger_> ter39: i failed to su, but can sudo
[09:41] <DrOwl-U5> or erUSUL =)
[09:41] <tiger_> ter39: how do i reset root password i forget?
[09:41] <erUSUL> !root | tiger_
[09:42] <shazbotmcnasty> I have two partitions on my usb thumb drive, but when I plug it in it only mounts one
[09:42] <shazbotmcnasty> what do?
[09:42] <ter39> go to system-administration-users and groups
[09:42] <shazbotmcnasty> errr - that's a problem
[09:42] <maxagaz> how to know what /dev/... should I use to record from sound device ?
[09:42] <shazbotmcnasty> I removed gnome
[09:42] <ter39> tiger and then click unlock to make changes
[09:42] <ter39> then change roots password
[09:43] <wunjo> most common problem
[09:43] <ardchoille> ter39: please don't teach others how to do that, it'snot supported and makes the system less secure. Please advise people to use sudo
[09:43] <erUSUL> we do not support having a root password set. is an unsupported configuration
[09:43] <wunjo> Told that to someone tonight
[09:43] <Gamrok> hey guys there is'nt an option to boot off of ubuntu on my grub any more just the windows option what can i do
[09:43] <nibbler> shazbotmcnasty: use dmesg  to see what partitions were found after plugging, or sudo fdisk -l, and see if oyu can mount it manually
[09:43] <erUSUL> Gamrok: grub still loads?
[09:43] <ter39> ardchoille why?????????
[09:44] <Gamrok> yup
[09:44] <wunjo> sudo is what I ment
[09:44] <erUSUL> Gamrok: yu uninstalled kernel packages???
[09:44] <ardchoille> !sudo | ter39 Read about why
[09:44] <sagaci> tiger_: why do you need to activate root
[09:44] <Gamrok> i think so, yes
[09:45] <erUSUL> Gamrok: you uninstalled all kernels... bad.
[09:45] <erUSUL> !grub2
[09:45] <ter39> Ok its good but every time we have to type sudo sudo sudo
[09:45] <spexi> erUSUL: well, I could found there only templates, there was options how I could switch alt and win keys. But after switchin win and alt, both of them stop working. So it would be nice to found software, where you can define exactly, that key id xxx is alt etc.
[09:45] <erUSUL> Gamrok: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD
[09:46] <sagaci> ter39: sudo -i
[09:46] <erUSUL> Gamrok: there they explain how to to chrrot from a livecd into the hard disk. once you chroot install the linux-image package
[09:46] <ter39> k
[09:46] <ter39> how to restore grub if we install Xp upon Ubuntu
[09:47] <wunjo> Now thats a good Question
[09:47] <erUSUL> Gamrok: only install that package. do the steps up to and including « sudo chroot /mnt »
[09:47] <wunjo> ter39
[09:47] <tiger_> sagaci: i met this problem: ln: creating hard link `libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0' => `libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0.1.1': Operation not permitted
[09:47] <sagaci> ter39: go thru install process but just install bootloader
[09:47] <ter39> tiger type sudo
[09:47] <ter39> before
[09:48] <erUSUL> tiger_: first use a simbolic link "ln -s" and use sudo « sudo ln -s ... »
[09:48] <ter39> sagaci from live cd
[09:48] <tiger_> ter39: i tried that, it doesnot help
[09:48] <erUSUL> spexi: well i have caps lock and left ctlr swapped and it works great
[09:49] <futurama140> ANytime i try to boot ubuntu 9.10 from a ubs device, (2 seperate thumb drives and a formated mp3 player), using several different bootable usb programs, i get the message to insert proper boot device and reboot. is that a problem with my ISO or with my PC?
[09:49] <futurama140> *usb
[09:50] <yudis> any body can help me
[09:50] <tiger_> erUSUL: it doesnot help either
[09:50] <erUSUL> tiger_: what is the error you get
[09:50] <yudis> what?
[09:50] <ter39> tiger use sudo before u type the command
[09:50] <erUSUL> !ask | yudis
[09:51] <futurama140> Anytime i try to boot ubuntu 9.10 from a usb device, (2 seperate thumb drives and a formated mp3 player), using several different bootable usb programs, i get the message to insert proper boot device and reboot. is that a problem with my ISO or with my PC?
[09:51] <tiger_> erUSUL: ln: creating hard link `libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0' => `libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0.1.1': Operation not permitted
[09:51] <spexi> erUSUL: ok, after random amount of swapping win and alt it started working :P
[09:51] <spexi> weird
[09:51] <erUSUL> tiger_: give the exact command you issued
[09:51] <BigMack83> k9copy always seems to use the avi container when encoding video from a disc. i am using xvid as the encoder, how can i make the container mp4?
[09:52] <futurama140> anyone?
[09:52] <tiger_> erUSUL: ln libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0.1.1 libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0
[09:52] <sagaci> futurama140: are you able to boot from a cd
[09:52] <_dsl> i just created a user and set privileges so cannot connect to a network or internet using a modem but testing as that user i can still plug into lan and connect to internet. any ideas whats wrong?
[09:52] <futurama140> sagaci: i dont have a cd drive
[09:52] <sagaci> tiger_: sudo ln libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0.1.1 libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0
[09:53] <erUSUL> tiger_: so you issued the exact command that failed before without doing the changes i told you and you are surprised it failed???
[09:53] <futurama140> sagaci: although it worked fine with older distros of ubuntu, so im thinking it might be the iso
[09:53] <erUSUL> tiger_: is « sudo ln -s libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0.1.1 libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0 »
[09:53] <tiger_> sagaci:  yes i added the sudu and -s
[09:53] <Jordan_U> futurama140, Does your BIOS support booting from USB?
[09:53] <ardchoille> tiger_: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:53] <futurama140> Jordan_U: yea
[09:53] <tiger_> 904
[09:54] <ardchoille> tiger_: is this a livecd?
[09:54] <sharadg> hi all, I am using ubuntu 9.10 and have setup dual head . The problem I am facing is that I am not able to specify which of my monitors is the primary one. how do I go about it  ?
[09:54] <tiger_> no
[09:54] <yudis> is there any special tricks to easily linuks connect to lan
[09:54] <erUSUL> yudis: no; just configure ip/netmask and you are connected
[09:54] <futurama140> i think i might just try fedora core 12 from usb, ubuntu is the only distro giving me problems trying to boot
[09:54] <Jordan_U> futurama140, Have you checked the md5sum of the iso?
[09:55] <sharadg> I have Intel 945/950 GMA video card
[09:55] <ardchoille> !info libwxgtk2.6-0 jaunty
[09:55] <futurama140> Jordan_U: no i havent, ill google instructions to do that
[09:55] <ardchoille> tiger_: where did you get libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0.1.1 ?
[09:55] <wunjo> Goto love google
[09:56] <tiger_> ardchoille: it is a compiled result
[09:56] <yudis> if you all have facebook
[09:56] <ardchoille> tiger_: so the wxwidgets package that are in the repos don't work?
[09:57] <ardchoille> tiger_: Why did you compile wxwidgets when they are in the repos?
[09:58] <futurama140> Jordan_U: md5summer verified its all correct
[09:58] <meatbun> does 9.10 have a grub recovery boot disk?
[09:58] <tiger_> ardchoille: I need an earlier version. it just does not work
[09:59] <erUSUL> !grub2 | meatbun
[09:59] <_dsl> any suggestions with my question above please?
[09:59] <Jordan_U> meatbun, You can use super grub2 disk
[10:00] <meatbun> erUSUL: that's still the old one.
[10:00] <erUSUL> _dsl: well the not connect via modem only limits the user access to seria/modem devices.
[10:00] <meatbun> Jordan_U: ? that part of ubuntu or another distro?
[10:00] <erUSUL> meatbun: what old one? use a karmic livecd to repair grub
[10:00] <Jordan_U> meatbun, It's a separate project, but it should allow you to boot Ubuntu.
[10:01] <ardchoille> There is an Ubuntu rescue livecd for 9.10 iirc
[10:01] <meatbun> i am planning to reinstalled windows on /dev/hda1 and have ubuntu on /dev/hda2.
[10:01] <_dsl> erUSUL: yes, but i have connect to wireless and ethernet inchecked yet i can still do it!
[10:01] <_dsl> *unchecked
[10:01] <meatbun> Jordan_U: ic
[10:01] <futurama140> Can you decomplie ubuntu to tweak it like in more advanced distros?
[10:02] <meatbun> erUSUL: ok. but does karmic comes with dignostic and fix grub?
[10:02] <meatbun> haha... decmpile?
[10:02] <erUSUL> meatbun: if you want a semiautomatic toll others already pointed you to supergrubdisk
[10:03] <Jordan_U> meatbun, There are instructions on the page ubottu linked too for re-installing grub2 after installing windows
[10:03] <erUSUL> tool*
[10:04] <meatbun> ok
[10:04] <chipgeri> i have php.ini at two places "/etc/php5/apache2/php.ini " and "/etc/php5/cli/php.ini"  php is loading from first one and i am getting curl_init() error ,but i have curl installed.. how can i fix this?
[10:04] <meatbun> it's easy i suppose
[10:04] <meatbun> $ sudo apt-get install --reinstall libdebian-installer4
[10:04] <meatbun> $ sudo os-prober
[10:04] <meatbun> $ sudo update-grub
[10:04] <FloodBot4> meatbun: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:05] <futurama140> Does anyone here prefer lilo over grub?
[10:05] <CErbero> hi
[10:05] <meatbun> lilo has some good functions. grub still don't have reboot into another os
[10:06] <peter_> why i cant copy/paste files on my disk? :O
[10:06] <peter_> i have ubuntu 9.10
[10:06] <ShapeShifter499> its possible to install ubuntu or some other linux into Broches Virtual Emulator iPod edition? when the ipod has 128 mb of physical ram and 512 mb of virtual ram?
[10:06] <wunjo> havent seen LiLo for 9 years
[10:06] <Jordan_U> meatbun, What do you mean "reboot into another os"? Are you talking about grub-reboot?
[10:06] <meatbun> Jordan_U: yah. that one. it doesn't work
[10:07] <Jordan_U> meatbun, I know, I fixed it for lucid and hopefully the fix will make it into karmic as well
[10:07] <Jordan_U> meatbun, You can use the lucid package in karmic
[10:07] <meatbun> Jordan_U: cool
[10:07] <peter_> DrSi.avi': Read-only file system
[10:08] <peter_> wtf?
[10:08] <luckymurali_> hi to all
[10:08] <luckymurali_> how can i find all the temporary files in ubuntu??
[10:08] <luckymurali_> I want to delete all the files
[10:08] <luckymurali_> is it ok that can I delete the files from /proc??
[10:08] <luckymurali_> please advise me
[10:08] <erUSUL> peter_: what type of disk/filesystem?
[10:09] <peter_> erUSL how i check that i know?
[10:09] <erUSUL> luckymurali_: no /proc/ is a virtual filesystem and is very small
[10:09] <Jordan_U> luckymurali_, No, /proc is a virtual file system, it doesn't actually take up any disk space
[10:09] <_dsl> erUSUL:tried disconnecting cable and rebooting but i can still connect. Very odd
[10:09] <peter_> i have verbatim disk..
[10:09] <erUSUL> peter_: cat /proc/mounts
[10:09] <peter_> but i cant copy anything or oast
[10:09] <meatbun> Jordan_U: i am going to do some migration and upgrade when my new sata drive arrive
[10:09] <slain> quit
[10:09] <slain> clear
[10:09] <luckymurali_> Jordan_U, hi
[10:10] <Jordan_U> luckymurali_, Hi.
[10:10] <peter_> /dev/sdb1 /media/VERBATIM vfat ro,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=0022,dmask=0077,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,flush,errors=remount-ro 0 0
[10:10] <luckymurali_> how can i delete the temporary files in my system??
[10:10] <rooisto47> hi
[10:10] <erUSUL> luckymurali_: "sudo apt-get clean" will remove the deb packages that you dled for install
[10:10] <luckymurali_> thanks
[10:10] <peter_> erUSUL what now?
[10:11] <erUSUL> peter_: sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdb1
[10:11] <erUSUL> peter_: but if the fs was mounted ro was because of serious errors.
[10:11] <luckymurali_> erUSUL,thanks
[10:12] <erUSUL> peter_: so i would check the filesystem
[10:12] <peter_> files are locked..
[10:12] <peter_> i have locker icon on it
[10:12] <feisar> Hi, I need to run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' in the early hours of the morning. I have entered 'apt-get -y dist-upgrade' in root's crontab and using 'top' I can tell it runs. But it does not update. Can someone explain why that might be?
[10:13] <erUSUL> feisar: without a a prior apt-get update there is nothing to pgrade
[10:13] <peter_> i can only read it
[10:13] <ardchoille> Doesn't the update manager check for updates daily and notify the user?
[10:13] <feisar> erUSUL: I have manually run apt-get update
[10:13] <feisar> erUSUL: do I need to run it in the crontab also?
[10:14] <feisar> yes it does but this user will not know what to do and it needs to be done in 'off peak' hours
[10:14] <chele> my spain
[10:15] <feisar> (its my mother in law)
[10:15] <ardchoille> feisar: you would need to run update *and* dist-upgrade
[10:15] <chele> ija you ma ca su yey
[10:15] <Jordan_U> meatbun, Out of curiosity, do you use savedefault functionality on the machines you use grub-reboot with, or just default=saved?
[10:15] <feisar> ardchoille: thanks, I'll give it a go
[10:15] <chele> oh no vark and my
[10:16] <meatbun> Jordan_U: i forgot. i probably tried both
[10:16] <meatbun> default=saved looks more familiar
[10:16] <chele> fhhd for you nine my and si you my net
[10:16] <ardchoille> feisar: and hope one of the updates doesn't require user interaction like some of the kernel updates do. This is why dist-upgrade should be watched by the user.
[10:17] <chele> ke ny
[10:17] <peter_> so anybody?
[10:17] <scy_th3> Does anyone know how to install ubuntu remotely?
[10:17] <Dantonic> is there a file where one can add command lines that would execute at startup in Ubuntu 9.10?
[10:17] <feisar> ardchoille: I can just use the -y command?
[10:17] <ardchoille> feisar: I consider that dangerous as you never know what needs to be done
[10:18] <ARishi> Dantonic: I think .bashrc
[10:18] <feisar> ardchoille: am I right in thinking there is a 'safe-upgrade' that leaves out kernel updates etc?
[10:19] <slnner> hi
[10:19] <slnner> does anyone know much bout hellanzb?
[10:19] <Dantonic> Arishi for some reason my ssh server does not start at startup.. so I was thinking to add a command line to execute do you think this is the right approach?
[10:19] <ardchoille> feisar: you might want to use upgrade instead of dist-upgrade but you still need to dist-upgrade now and then in case of kernel exploits. Why teach her how to run the update manager gui?
[10:19] <ardchoille> *why not
[10:19] <Jordan_U> meatbun, So were you just trying grub-reboot for kicks or do you actually use it? I'm wondering because there is currently a question of whether default=saved should imply that you also want savedefault, I'd like input from users of grub-reboot / grub-set-default.
[10:19] <Cappy> folks, ive installed xchat-gnome and was wondering if there is any way to make to act like the old school xchat? or do i just install the other one?
[10:20] <slnner> k well ill spit it out, unrar and par have bad permission in /usr/bin and im not sure what they should be...in order for a program to execute them.
[10:20] <Dantonic> !init.d
[10:21] <ardchoille> feisar: if you do dist-upgrade and the kernel is upgraded, the system needs to be restarted anyway to use the new kernel. You shold probably just teach er how to use the update manager gui
[10:21] <feisar> ardchoille: the user is partially sighted and I don't think will ever be able to execute tasks like that unaided. I wanted to get security updates done automatically then I will pop round every month or so and manually update
[10:21] <ardchoille> feisar: the update manager has a setting to install security updates automatically
[10:22] <Grge> in cron how should i run sh script, as I do it via command line (/home/grge/path/to/script) ?
[10:22] <feisar> ardchoille: I know, but the problem with that is you cannot specify a time and her bandwidth is limited between 9-6
[10:22] <Jordan_U> Grge, Yes
[10:23] <ARishi> Dantonic: I don't know about that much, but I do know that you should try the rc.local file. Read about that.
[10:23] <uyjhgjhkg> Undeleting a file, there is no process holding the file open. I've googled. What are the best-practice steps
[10:23] <Jordan_U> feisar, You could apt-get upgrade -d to download the updates automatically but not install them
[10:23] <uyjhgjhkg> file was deleted on a karmic server, using rm
[10:24] <Jordan_U> uyjhgjhkg, What type of file?
[10:24] <uyjhgjhkg> a .sql file
[10:24] <uyjhgjhkg> mysql dump
[10:24] <Jordan_U> !undelete | uyjhgjhkg
[10:24] <uyjhgjhkg> should have a standard characters at the beginning, I've read about going into single user mode... blah blah. But there is NOTHING that is written in a definitive way
[10:24] <feisar> jordan_U: but leaving the auto updating enabled would mean that they would still be downloaded during the day if the computer had been off the night b4
[10:25] <Jordan_U> feisar, True
[10:25] <toader> Hi, I have text file, there is a key word "Loaddim". I want to split this text file into two files  by line containing this key word. How should i do? thanks
[10:25] <uyjhgjhkg> karmic is ext3 by default?
[10:25] <frogzoo> oh koala, if your ethernet drops link, you have to reconfigure the ip - annoying as
[10:25] <Grge> how can I debug cron script, cause it is correctly executed via command line, but it doesn't work in corn
[10:25] <uyjhgjhkg> does !ext3 mean not ext3 or is this some new stupid wikistyle linking in !triggers?
[10:25] <feisar> I need to be able to set security updates to download and install over night
[10:25] <uyjhgjhkg> @ Jordan_U
[10:25] <ardchoille> Grge: what is the cron line you're using?
[10:26] <Dantonic> how do I get ssh server to start at startup? ubuntu 9.10
[10:26] <Grge> 10 10 * * * /path/to/script
[10:26] <uyjhgjhkg> First link is pointless, this is undelete not data recovery
[10:26] <Jordan_U> uyjhgjhkg, ext4, which since it uses extends *might* make recovery easier.
[10:26] <ardchoille> Grge 10 10 * * * sh /path/to/script
[10:26] <Grge> script however uses ssh to send some files to ftp, my user have certicate installed, but do cron task is run as me ?
[10:27] <uyjhgjhkg> Jordan_U, why isn't this a science?
[10:27] <Grge> if you know what I mean
[10:27] <Grge> this should be a real queston in fact
[10:27] <uyjhgjhkg> Jordan_U, I have a disk, a controller, a file system, a clean install - this is science, not maybe's and ifs. I just deleted the file. Yes you can say maybe it was overwritten, THAT IS ALL.
[10:27] <Dantonic> shouldn't the ssh script located in etc/init.d/ automatically start?
[10:27] <uyjhgjhkg> I want the rest of it to be 100%, YES we can access the filsystem to see unlinked data.
[10:27] <Grge> cause task is run I just checked it
[10:27] <meatbun> Jordan_U: i use it. it's very useful. since my machine is at remote site. i ssh to reboot
[10:27] <uyjhgjhkg> I don't want fairies and goblins and magick and maybes
[10:28] <meatbun> Jordan_U: i dont' remember. i had that config in my notes somewhere
[10:28] <uyjhgjhkg> "Though most pages in the InterNet state it is impossible to undelete such files, this is simply wrong" FFS, seriously?  I want 3 senteces: this undeletes files. Here is download. This is command
[10:28] <uyjhgjhkg> WHat is wrong with people?
[10:28] <Jordan_U> meatbun, Do you know what savedefault functionality is?
[10:29] <meatbun> Jordan_U: nope. dont remember. what i do know is. u need to save the OS in which u need to do the reboot next
[10:29] <meatbun> into a file
[10:30] <rooisto47> #ubunti
[10:30] <meatbun> and grub will boot it once
[10:30] <uyjhgjhkg> "The complete Changelog with the possibility to download all released versions opens in a new window when clicking this link. " rather than have "change log / download" as a link. Seriously. painful
[10:30] <Jordan_U> meatbun, Savedefault saves whatever menu entry you choose manually at boot to be the default entry at next boot.
[10:31] <meatbun>  savedefault=false  <---oh.. needs to be true inside menu.lst
[10:31] <uyjhgjhkg> Jordan_U, I think these scripts are worthless
[10:31] <uyjhgjhkg> Jordan_U, If I can work out the beginning bytes / last bytes of a file, how can I get into a mode that looks for and recovers that data?
[10:31] <meatbun> Jordan_U: i am looking at my grub menu.lst now
[10:32] <uyjhgjhkg> "In order to ensure that ext3 can safely resume an unlink after a crash, it actually zeros out the block pointers in the inode, whereas ext2 just marks these blocks as unused in the block bitmaps and marks the inode as "deleted" and leaves the block pointers alone. Your only hope is to "grep" for parts of your files that have been deleted and hope for the best."
[10:32] <uyjhgjhkg> Wrong. "Dear interested person, to undelete a file, you need to grep for content in that file, here is how"
[10:32] <ardchoille> uyjhgjhkg: kinda sounds futile
[10:32] <meatbun> Jordan_U: i been using lilo -R
[10:32] <uyjhgjhkg> People are asking for a way to do it, not the ways it can't be done
[10:32] <chipgeri> it looks like php cli is not configured with php-curl   because i am able to run php samples on apache but getting curl_init() error on commandline samples..can anybody help me?
[10:33] <uyjhgjhkg> ardchoille, I'll see, I think I can recover this. It is pointless having any file system without a recovery tool. It makes tools like shred redundant, it isn't worth anything
[10:33] <uyjhgjhkg> It just obscures things that are really there. no security
[10:33] <Seveas> chipgeri, look in /etc/php :)
[10:33] <Jordan_U> uyjhgjhkg, Part of Unix philosophy is that it trust that the user knows what they are doing.
[10:33] <uyjhgjhkg> It sounds like it actually sacrifices performance to ensure this obscurity
[10:33] <Jordan_U> uyjhgjhkg, It's not supposed to be a security feature
[10:33] <ardchoille> uyjhgjhkg: deleting a file has nothing to do with security, it has to do with freeing up space that the system can use again
[10:34] <Jordan_U> uyjhgjhkg, Re-read the sentence you quoted.
[10:34] <uyjhgjhkg> Jordan_U, part of my philosophy is to trust that the filesystem writter knew what he was doing, capische?
[10:34] <uyjhgjhkg> obviously they didn't
[10:34] <uyjhgjhkg> Jordan_U, I KNOW. I was deliberately coming back in case someone quoted security
[10:34] <chipgeri>  <Seveas> what should i check there?
[10:34] <uyjhgjhkg> there is no need to obfuscate content like that
[10:34] <Seveas> chipgeri, the configfiles :-)
[10:34] <uyjhgjhkg> ardchoille, I agree, I was imagining someone else woudl bring up security as a counterargument to what I was saying
[10:34] <Jordan_U> uyjhgjhkg, "In order to ensure that ext3 can safely resume an unlink after a crash..."
[10:35] <uyjhgjhkg> Jordan_U, does that actually mean anything?
[10:35] <Jordan_U> uyjhgjhkg, Yes
[10:35] <uyjhgjhkg> I don't think so
[10:35] <uyjhgjhkg> Really
[10:35] <Jordan_U> uyjhgjhkg, Yes
[10:35] <uyjhgjhkg> go ahead, explain
[10:35] <uyjhgjhkg> and keep capitalising after commas, it makes your argument, already verbose, much more convincing
[10:36] <vigneswari> where do i post my query related to UNR
[10:36] <ardchoille> uyjhgjhkg: I realize you're frustrated, but I feel your attitude might benefit from change if you want people to help you instead of put you on ignore for ranting. Just my 2 cents.
[10:36] <vigneswari> netbook-launcher fails to start
[10:37] <uyjhgjhkg> http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html << this is a good read
[10:37] <uyjhgjhkg> but I am using ext4 on karmic?
[10:37] <Fill23> Hi, need help with custom resolution setup, when i'm trying this 'xrandr --addmode 1280x960' i get this error: http://pastebin.org/95803
[10:37] <Jordan_U> uyjhgjhkg, If you are unlinking a file and you lose power the file system needs to be able to recover in a way that keeps the file system consistent, zeroing the block pointers is part of how ext3 ensures this.
[10:37] <uyjhgjhkg> ardchoille, I was just correcting his misunderstanding of what I said re security, I appreciate your concern though.
[10:38] <uyjhgjhkg> Jordan_U, setting an unused block would do the exact same thing
[10:38] <uyjhgjhkg> in recovery, 000 block pointers and 0 used pointers can trigger the same code block
[10:38] <uyjhgjhkg> therefore the same 0's and 1's go through the CPU
[10:38] <uyjhgjhkg> therefore it is the same
[10:39] <meatbun> Jordan_U: thx for fixing. it was reported as a bug, then i gave up
[10:39] <Jordan_U> meatbun, np
[10:39] <Fill23> any help with my question?
[10:40] <indus> Fill23, what is the question
[10:40] <Tommy89> can you upgrade for ubuntu 8.04 LTS server straight to 9.10 server edition
[10:40] <Jordan_U> Tommy89, No, but you will be able to upgrade directly to 10.04 LTS
[10:40] <Morten_> j math
[10:41] <Fill23> will repost now 1 sec
[10:41] <ardchoille> Tommy89: iirc, you need to upgrade one version at a time unless you're going from one LTS to another
[10:41] <Morten_> sorry :(
[10:41] <Fill23> Hi, need help with custom resolution setup, when i'm trying this 'xrandr --addmode  1280x960' i get this error: http://pastebin.org/95803
[10:41] <Fill23> Hi, need help with custom resolution setup, when i'm trying this 'xrandr --addmode  1280x960' i get this error: http://pastebin.org/95803
[10:41] <Fill23> Hi, need help with custom resolution setup, when i'm trying this 'xrandr --addmode  1280x960' i get this error: http://pastebin.org/95803
[10:41] <Fill23> oh sorry
[10:41] <Fill23> didn't want to post three times T_T
[10:42] <ardchoille> Tommy89: 10.10 (the next LTS release) is due out in two months
[10:42] <Tommy89> 10.04 LTS isnt out yet though ?
[10:42] <ardchoille> Tommy89: sorry, 10.04 (the next LTS release) is due out in two months
[10:42] <Jordan_U> ardchoille, 10.04
[10:42] <iceroot> Tommy89: YEAR.MONTH is the scheme
[10:42] <iceroot> Tommy89: so 20(10.04)
[10:43] <Geoni> hi there...i have some question about ubuntu and windows cowork.It's somebody there that could help me
[10:43] <ardchoille> Sorry, got ahead of myself (I love puns :)
[10:43] <iceroot> !ask | Geoni
[10:43] <Astana> Guys, i've Win 7 & Ubuntu ...and i want increase space for Ubuntu without harming any of the partitions ..how please ?
[10:43] <meatbun> Jordan_U: what's wrong with it anyway?
[10:43] <Dantonic> ssh server won't start automatically at boot for me.  I have to manually start with sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start  I've tried purging the current ssh installation and reinstalling it... any ideas what is going on or how to fix it?
[10:43] <uyjhgjhkg> Can I get everyones attention? FAIL on sourceforge, I want to wget a file from sourceforge. I am in chrome. So I let it do its redirect, and copy the downloaded url from chrome, but it is TRUNCATED, probably for CONVENIENCE. SHEEESH
[10:44] <Tommy89> im using 8.04 LTS but i want to upgrade php to latest version how can i do this without upgrading ubuntu then please?
[10:44] <feisar> could someone tell me where cron logs to?
[10:44] <Jordan_U> meatbun, It set the default permanently instead of only booting into it once. You can read my bug report for a more detailed description of why the default wasn't properly restored.
[10:44] <Geoni> anyone?
[10:45] <brk3> does anyone know the shortcut variable in bash to get the result of the last command run?
[10:45] <Jordan_U> brk3, $?
[10:45] <brk3> Jordan_U: sorry, not the return code, but the actual value
[10:45] <ardchoille> brk3: !!
[10:46] <meatbun> Jordan_U: ok. but it didn't even boot to windows, when i used it 2 years ago
[10:46] <Astana> Guys, i've Win 7 & Ubuntu ...and i want increase space for Ubuntu without harming any of the partitions ..how please ?
[10:46] <brk3> so if I go ls, and it returns a.txt, I think theres a way of going for example, cat $something
[10:46] <AdvoWork> hmm, is ! -mtime -2  not anything < 2 days ago, so really, anything > 2 days?
[10:46] <brk3> Astana: look into a tool called gparted
[10:46] <Jordan_U> meatbun, Did you have GRUB_DEFAULT=saved in /etc/default/grub ( grub2 ) or default=saved in /boot/grub/menu.lst ( grub legacy ) ?
[10:47] <Astana> brk3: i know that tool , and i got a CD for it..but i don't know if he can fix this or not
[10:47] <indus> Astana, use the live cd and use the partition editor
[10:47] <indus> Astana, it wont harm the partitions
[10:47] <Astana> coz i wont harm any of the partitions
[10:47] <meatbun> Jordan_U: sorry. don't remember. i only config /boot/grub directory, never touch /etc
[10:47] <Astana> indus, Ok man
[10:47] <uyjhgjhkg> OK. I downloaded extundelete.   I moved the file
[10:49] <uyjhgjhkg> the original server went offline
[10:49] <anomiewut> Hello, can anyone tell me how I can give a FTP user enough rights that he can upload/edit any file?
[10:49] <ardchoille> ah
[10:49] <uyjhgjhkg> and the IDIOTS are not awake to put it online
[10:49] <Astana> indus, brk3 : i want decrease size from my Win7 partion and add it to Ubuntu
[10:49] <uyjhgjhkg> and I already moved the dns
[10:49] <uyjhgjhkg> and the sql file was delted because
[10:49] <uyjhgjhkg> and this is IMPORTANT
[10:49] <indus> Astana, possible
[10:50] <uyjhgjhkg> ardchoille, the most important thing in computing is reproducibility, simplicity, removing entropuy
[10:50] <lucascarvalho> hi, is there any easy and simple tutorial to teach how to create a .deb binary package for a given directory?
[10:50] <jpds> uyjhgjhkg: What are you compiling?
[10:50] <uyjhgjhkg> So, HOW IS IT POSSIBLE that when I get this new server they have a root account setup. karmic doesn't install that way does it?
[10:50] <uyjhgjhkg> I didn't even notice, I ran some scripts
[10:50] <Astana> indus, do u got any tuto with pictures to do that plz !
[10:50] <uyjhgjhkg> and then was like, ffs, what? I need to setup this, and groups. ok.
[10:50] <Geoni> hi i'm new here.how could i get some help?
[10:50] <uyjhgjhkg> jpds, extundelee
[10:51] <uyjhgjhkg> extundelete
[10:51] <Jordan_U> !ask | Geoni
[10:51] <ardchoille> !deb
[10:51] <ARishi> Geoni: just ask
[10:51] <uyjhgjhkg> ardchoille, so I setup the user and copy everything, and then do some rm's without thinking, pissed that THINGS AREN'T JUST STANDARD
[10:51] <jpds> uyjhgjhkg: < ~uyjhgjhkg> I am on OSX
[10:51] <jpds> uyjhgjhkg: We don't do Mac OSX support.
[10:51] <ardchoille> jpds: his server is karmic tho
[10:51] <anomiewut> Hello, can anyone tell me how I can give a FTP user enough rights that he can upload/edit any file?
[10:51] <uyjhgjhkg> and realise I'd copied the sql file also into the ... jpds - yes I am on OSX. thanks for noticing. My server, and the file, are on karmic
[10:52] <uyjhgjhkg> jpds and I don't want to hear about you not supporting OSX, if that is the only reason you wanted to talk to me, thanks
[10:52] <Astana> ubottu, gparted
[10:52] <uyjhgjhkg> Some people - feel so empowered, see a point in which they can say something negative, and off they go, loaded question in hand, ready to pounce. Internet heros.
[10:52] <Jordan_U> !polite | uyjhgjhkg
[10:52] <ardchoille> uyjhgjhkg: careful, my friend. Take a deep breath :)
[10:52] <uyjhgjhkg> :-)
[10:53] <uyjhgjhkg> I'm ok. Just... every time 1 thing goes wrong I get exposed to 47 things that make me wonder how humanity ever managed to walk upright. :p
[10:54] <jpds> uyjhgjhkg: I thought you were trying to install extundelete on the OSX, sorry.
[10:54] <uyjhgjhkg> jpds, no worries, I needed something else to deal with and explain. I am just... curious. If there exists at all, in any universe, a reason for not having a binary...
[10:54] <uyjhgjhkg> just... curious
[10:54] <jpds> uyjhgjhkg: Because noone has packaged it?
[10:55] <Geoni> i want to set a workgroup with a file and print server on ubuntu 9.10.The server will be an ubuntu pc and the user will be on windows station.I want to give users passwords to acces their back-up or shares on the ubuntu server and i just don't know how.
[10:55] <uyjhgjhkg> jpds, right. its just. ugh.
[10:55] <jpds> uyjhgjhkg: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/510603
[10:55] <ardchoille> jpds: nice find
[10:56] <indus> Astana,hi
[10:56] <Astana> hi indus
[10:56] <Astana> i'm waiting man :d
[10:56] <indus> Astana, when you resize the ubuntu partition, it will create free space,
[10:56] <Gnea> Geoni: samba can do that
[10:56] <Astana> i want resize win 7 partition man
[10:56] <Astana> decrease it's size
[10:56] <Astana> by 20 Go
[10:57] <indus> Astana, then you extend the windows partition , its all slider stuff man, easy for babies too these days
[10:57] <Gnea> !pm | Geoni
[10:57] <Astana> indus, haha
[10:57] <Astana> indus, it's really all about slider ?
[10:57] <candy>  I have amd processor 2.1 ghz, 1. gb ram assus motherboard... I installed ubuntu 9.10. everything is fine except my ethernet connection. sometimes it connects but the speed is very slow
[10:57] <indus> Astana, http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html
[10:57] <Astana> indus, thanks
[10:57] <anomiewut> Hello, can anyone tell me how I can give a FTP user enough rights that he can upload/edit any file?
[10:57] <Gnea> Geoni: have you heard of SWAT?
[10:58] <indus> Astana, be careful though, always take backup before partitioning,
[10:58] <Astana> indus, huh !
[10:58] <indus> Astana, i just resized ubuntu partition, but not sure if same happens for windows
[10:58] <indus> Astana, because the file type is different
[10:58] <Gnea> !info swat
[10:58] <Jordan_U> uyjhgjhkg, photorec is in the repositories, though I've never used it myself ( it recovers more than just photos )
[10:58] <feisar> could someone tell me if there is anything wrong with this crontab entry. syslog shows it is being run but it doesn't seem to do anything: '53 10 * * * root /usr/bin/aptitude -y upgrade 2&1 >> /var/log/auto_update'
[10:58] <Astana> indus, that's what i say man :d
[10:59] <candy>  I have amd processor 2.1 ghz, 1. gb ram assus motherboard... I installed ubuntu 9.10. everything is fine except my ethernet connection. sometimes it connects but the speed is very slow
[10:59]  * geniv
[10:59] <indus> Astana, but i belive its possible, just try using it first
[11:00] <Astana> indus, i believe in what u say man
[11:00] <Astana> i'll do it
[11:00] <Astana> :d
[11:00] <DS1> how do you copy and paste as sudo user
[11:00] <indus> Astana, so i believe, when you create a free space, you format it will ntfs, then merget hte windows 7 partition into it, i hope that is possible :)
[11:00] <Jordan_U> feisar, remove the "root"
[11:00] <DS1> i forgot
[11:01] <ruby_on_tails> can anyone suggest me a good read on why vim is considered to be the best text editor out there ?
[11:01] <indus> Astana, format it with ntfs i mean
[11:01] <krambiorix> hi guys
[11:01] <feisar> Jordan_U: ok, thanks, why is that?
[11:01] <krambiorix> in ubuntu i want all my files and folders listed as List view, how can i do that?
[11:01] <indus> Astana, aah okit works, grow partition ntfs
[11:01] <nuxil> !offtopic
[11:01] <indus> Astana, enjoy\
[11:01] <nuxil> that was for my self ;)
[11:01] <ARishi> DCC
[11:01] <nuxil> sorry /join  #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:01] <nuxil> erm
[11:02] <krambiorix> ow i found it
[11:02] <krambiorix> thx anyways
[11:02] <DS1> how do you copypaste as usod
[11:02] <Astana> so here is what u say indus : boot from Ubuntu Live CD, decrase the win 7 by 20 Go, format it with ext3, and Ubuntu will know it next boot ?
[11:02] <indus> Astana, what? what exactly do you want to do
[11:03] <Astana> decrase win partition and add that free space to ubuntu !
[11:03] <indus> Astana, yes it will of course
[11:03] <Jordan_U> feisar, There is no username field, the command that cron tries to run as it is now would be "root  /usr/bin/aptitude -y upgrade 2&1 >> /var/log/auto_update" which will fail since "root" is not a command
[11:03] <indus> Astana, sure, when you decrease the 7 partition, it will create free space, then you extend your ubuntu partition into this free space :)
[11:03] <jazz> can some one tell me when is 15 utc?
[11:04] <jazz> 15:00 **8
[11:04] <Astana> indus, without formating it with ext3 ?
[11:04] <indus> Astana, so no need of formating this free space, that was my mistake sorry
[11:04] <feisar> Jordan_U: i see, thanks. I also changed 2&1 to 2>&1
[11:04] <indus> Astana, yeah, i think yes
[11:04] <Astana> indus, aah Ok
[11:04] <indus> Astana, anyways go try it .pretty easy
[11:04] <Astana> indus, Thanks man..apprectiate ur help !
[11:04] <Astana> cheers
[11:05] <indus> Astana, goods lucks
[11:05] <indus> :D
[11:05] <Astana> :D
[11:05] <kaziem> latest libpurple update breaks MSN plugin, result: pidgin exits with floating point error
[11:07] <Sandman> how can I add a norwegian dictionary?
[11:07] <jofo> Hello. I’m on https://bugs.launchpad.net . I’m connected (my nickname appears on the right top corner of the screen, besides a “Log Out” button). I’ve looked whether a bug I’ve encountered had already been reported. It seems that’s not the case. My problem is I don’t find a “Report a new bug”. Could some one help me?
[11:08] <rww> ubottu: bug | jofo
[11:08] <kaziem> where should I report bugs of pidgin?
[11:08] <Astana> The grub file where is it in this Karmic ? it was on /boot/grub/menu.lst ...but it 's changed !
[11:08] <jrib> !grub2 | Astana
[11:09] <rww> kaziem: type "ubuntu-bug pidgin" in a terminal and follow the instructions that come up.
[11:09] <indus> kaziem, type sudo ubuntu-bug -p <packagename>
[11:09] <indus> ok no sudo then
[11:09] <Astana> jrib, just put the correct path
[11:09] <jrib> Astana: read ubottu's link
[11:10] <otswim> this might be a basic question but: i have two different ethernet connection, one at home, one at univ, and they both need different interfaces file configuration, how can i do so that i don't have to change the /etc/network/interfaces file every time i change
[11:10] <indus> jofo, the process to report bugs hsa changed now
[11:10] <Astana> jrib, /boot/grub/grub.cfg lol ! thanks & thanks ubutto :D
[11:10] <Jordan_U> otswim, System > Preferences > Networking
[11:10] <Sandman> how can I add a norwegian dictionary?
[11:10] <indus> Astana, no thats not it to edit
[11:10] <indus> Astana, did you resize partition?
[11:10] <Astana> indus,  euh ?
[11:11] <Astana> indus, not yet
[11:11] <jrib> Astana: you didn't actually read ubottu's link.  If you just edit that file, your setup WILL BREAK.  Read the whole page
[11:11] <Geoni> if possible, can someone help me with configuring samba on ubuntu 9.10. I installed Ubuntu on a system of my network, I installed updates and samba. other network systems running Windows. I want Windows users to save their documents on the server, but only access them themselves
[11:11] <Astana> indus, i want just take a back up for the file too
[11:11] <kaziem> thanks indus rww
[11:11] <Astana> where the *** is this file ??
[11:12] <the_wandering_pi> Wow. Someone -is- awake.
[11:12] <jrib> Astana: the way grub is configured has changed.
[11:12] <kaziem> rww, indus: it says it's not a genuine ubuntu package so can't report that bug
[11:12] <Astana> /etc/default/grub ?
[11:12] <Mike1> Geoni: there are many many howtos on the internet
[11:12] <indus> kaziem, ubuntu-bug pidgin?
[11:13] <Astana> it says : This file contains information previously found in the upper section of /boot/grub/menu.lst.
[11:13] <rww> kaziem: did you misspell "pidgin"?
[11:13] <PatMat_> hi