[12:00] <robert__> y
[12:00] <xerox> Is it possible to have vlc without the wxvlc package?
[12:00] <robert__> enter
[12:00] <kimo> flodine: why add, replace the resolution
[12:00] <Zzrdvark> what is the harddrive space requirement for ubuntu 5.04?
[12:00] <zerokills> anyone know how to turn esd back on?
[12:00] <nalioth> kuntu: be advised, your ISP will trap all false IPs LEAVING its network
[12:00] <kimo> flodine: u can switch with, ctrl+alt+numericplus
[12:00] <confrey> how can I exchange governor? I want use powersave when I only use the battery on my laptop
[12:00] <kuntu> IPs ?
[12:00] <kuntu> im talking about mac
[12:00] <nickrud> Zzrdvark, they recommend about 2GB, 4-6 will give you room to experiment
[12:00] <afroman> xolotl_, as I said it is a Compaq Presario v510, although I dunno wot the rates are
[12:01] <robert__> xolotl_: After running ifconfig after ifup eth0, it sees eth0, but doesn't bring up anything
[12:01] <Zzrdvark> hmm... can i install in 1GB?
[12:01] <flodine> kimo after i add it i can just switch to it that way
[12:01] <zerokills> afroman: have you tried looking up your monitor on google? maybe you can find some information there
[12:01] <nickrud> Zzrdvark, maybe the server version, I don't know
[12:01] <kimo> flodine: yeah, and you need to restart X after every change to the file
[12:01] <Howitzer> anyone using firefox, i recommend you all an extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=79
[12:01] <kuntu> how do i run games using jails and so on ?
[12:01] <prock> 'anyone using firefox' har
[12:02] <Howitzer> remove an item temporarily from a website
[12:02] <xolotl_> afroman, try a google search - those numbers have gotta be around somewhere - I'll take a look in a second too
[12:02] <Zzrdvark> the system requirements should probably be posted prominently in the wiki
[12:02] <Zzrdvark> i couldn't find them
[12:02] <nickrud> prock, actually I use epipany by pref :)
[12:02] <nalioth> Howitzer: ff kinda blows, if ya want my opinion
[12:02] <Zzrdvark> thx nickrud
[12:02] <Howitzer> why
[12:02] <Howitzer> ?
[12:02] <Howitzer> weird actually
[12:02] <kimo> xolotl_: well, I was seriously fighting to get an InFocus projector working today with my linux laptop. I could not! Any tricks
[12:02] <nalioth> Howitzer: it's a memory hawg
[12:03] <Howitzer> in the 'windows world' everybody is enlightened by FF
[12:03] <nalioth> Howitzer: and its SLOW
[12:03] <Howitzer> in linux they aren't
[12:03] <Howitzer> it isn't slow :x
[12:03] <Howitzer> oky
[12:03] <robert__> DHCPDISCOVER on sit0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67 interval 4
[12:03] <robert__> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67 interval 3
[12:03] <robert__> DHCPOFFER from <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:03] <robert__> DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67
[12:03] <robert__> DHCPACK from <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:03] <robert__> bound to <IP_ADDRESS> -- renewal in 2678 seconds.
[12:03] <robert__> this is what dhclient shows on the working Ubuntu install
[12:03] <nalioth> Howitzer: i don't care to discuss my poor windozed brethren
[12:03] <Howitzer> it maaaay take 120mb ram or 2 google pages but it still is good
[12:03] <xolotl_> kimo, projector...  not really - is it with a laptop?
[12:03] <nickrud> Howitzer, linux provides more options
[12:04] <Howitzer> maybe so
[12:04] <kimo> xolotl_: yes I am trying to connect a laptop. Any resolution is ok
[12:04] <Howitzer> what do you use then?
[12:04] <robert__> I don't get any DHCPOFFERs on the other install.
[12:04] <nalioth> Howitzer: yes, like epiphany, galeon, links, elinks, lynx, amaya, w3m, dillo, kazekahase, and more i'm sure i'm forgetting
[12:04] <xolotl_> robert__, yup - that's what it should do
[12:04] <robert__> yep
[12:04] <Howitzer> hmm
[12:04] <Howitzer> never used those
[12:05] <robert__> What config file could I have missed?
[12:05] <kimo> xolotl_: what's getting on my nerves, is what does it work easily on windows, without any special drivers! grr
[12:05] <Howitzer> maybe when i use Linux for a more serious purpose
[12:05] <xolotl_> robert__, check to see what services are running on bootup
[12:05] <wC> hello
[12:05] <robert__> how do I get dhclient to run on bootup?
[12:05] <xolotl_> kimo, it should work without drivers
[12:05] <Howitzer> Does anyone know a free mail provider with IMAP access?
[12:05] <nalioth> kimo: windows also sends everything you type to uncle bill (unless you use a 3d party prog to lock it down)
[12:05] <robert__> or rather, eth0 to start on bootup and grab an IP from dhclient
[12:05] <wc_nix> hello
[12:06] <robert__> without having to run ifup eth0
[12:06] <xolotl_> kimo, you may have an issue with your laptop's external display port is my guess
[12:06] <wc_nix> i'm having major problems with Ubuntu's 5.04 A64 release
[12:06] <wc_nix> if anybody is willing to help, please PM me
[12:06] <kimo> xolotl_: no, it is working on windows (same machine)
[12:06] <wc_nix> it has to do with the libs
[12:06] <fabian_> guten abend
[12:06] <fabian_> noch jemand da?
[12:07] <wc_nix> can people read my text?
[12:07] <fabian_> sorry, english in here, right?
[12:07] <robert__> fabian_: englisch =]
[12:07] <Howitzer> Does anyone know a free mail provider with IMAP access?
[12:07] <robert__> yep
[12:07] <nalioth> wc_nix: you mand amd64?
[12:07] <wc_nix> yes
[12:07] <wc_nix> thing is giving me a heap of trouble
[12:07] <robert__> Howitzer: no need to repeat yourself
[12:07] <nalioth> fabian_: please english
[12:07] <Howitzer> yes sorry but no response :(
[12:07] <fabian_> got a problem: i want to install the newest jdk. got the bin-thing from the sun page. how do I install this?
[12:07] <wc_nix> Ubuntu is the only distro to work properly with my laptop's screen
[12:07] <kuntu> isnt ubuntu using ifplugd ?
[12:08] <nalioth> Howitzer: yes, please limit repeats of the same ??? to more than several minutes apart. if some1 knows the answer, they'll speak up
[12:08] <xolotl_> afroman, tried searching the compaq.com website?
[12:08] <Howitzer> oh
[12:08] <nalioth> wc_nix: what is the problem?
[12:08] <wc_nix> the libs
[12:08] <wc_nix> i cannot install squat
[12:08] <wc_nix> i've tried to install so many diff things
[12:08] <flodine> kimo when you say replace resolution what do you mean
[12:08] <Howitzer> so about 2-3minutes?(i'm really not trying to annoy/irritate/offend nyone)
[12:08] <wc_nix>  the ./configure fails and therefore I cannot make nor make install
[12:08] <xolotl_> kimo, the issue isn't likely hardware - software - linux sometimes requires special drivers to enable the external video ports
[12:08] <kuntu> isnt ubuntu using ifplugd ?
[12:08] <nalioth> wc_nix: well, amd64 (and PPC) are poor red-headed-stepchildren in the binary department
[12:09] <robert__> xolotl_: Any ideas on what I could have missed?
[12:09] <rics> hello!
[12:09] <wc_nix> nalioth, do you suggest I uninstall and install the x86 version of Ubuntu?
[12:09] <wc_nix> i was told the Athlon 64 distro would run just as well
[12:09] <nalioth> wc_nix: that is one option, but i think i can do you one better
[12:09] <wc_nix> that if you had the source it'd compile it to run properly
[12:09] <rics> I downloaded gPHPEdit right now. It's a .deb file. How can I install it here in my Ubuntu system? It will create the menu entry as well?
[12:09] <yaaar> word
[12:09] <nalioth> wc_nix: are you familiar with how to use apt-get?
[12:10] <wc_nix> i learned it yesterday
[12:10] <xolotl_> robert__, not off the top of my head - what is the exact command line you run to get dhclient started?
[12:10] <wc_nix> i came from Fedora / FreeBSD / Gentoo
[12:10] <wc_nix> so I only know manual installs, PKG_ system, and emerge
[12:10] <robert__> xolotl_: /sbin/dhclient
[12:10] <wc_nix> I got 2 things from apt-get which i found on the ubuntu forums
[12:10] <xolotl_> robert__, and you've tried dhclient3 as well?
[12:11] <nalioth> wc_nix: welcome to ubuntuand here we go
[12:11] <robert__> no
[12:11] <nalioth> wc_nix: take notes
[12:11] <robert__> but 1 more question, how do I get it to startup on boot?
[12:11] <wc_nix> one sec let me open Gedit
[12:11] <robert__> eth0
[12:11] <wc_nix> btw can you say it in a PM
[12:11] <Howitzer> nalioth, can i make the modification to the about:config permanent?
[12:11] <wc_nix> it'll make it easier to copy/paste
[12:11] <nalioth> wc_nix: are your deb-src lines enabled in your sources.list?
[12:11] <wc_nix> no clue
[12:11] <nalioth> Howitzer: it is permanent, you did it whallago
[12:11] <Howitzer> eh
[12:12] <nalioth> wc_nix: i'd prefer to say it here, so all these lurkers might learn something
[12:12] <Howitzer> it resetted itself to 1.0 when i restarted FF
[12:12] <wc_nix> alrighty
[12:12] <wc_nix> where is sources.list
[12:12] <wc_nix> in /etc?
[12:12] <nalioth> wc_nix: open (as root) /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure any line beginning with deb-src is uncommented
[12:12] <robert__> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:12] <xolotl_> robert__, it should start up automatically, but the way it works is that the system looks in /etc/inittab - figures out what the default run level is set to, looks in /etc/rc<runlevelnumber>.d/ and follows all the links in that directory to the /etc/init.d/ directory and starts the appropriate scripts.
[12:12] <wc_nix> i'll use nano
[12:12] <wc_nix> one sec
[12:13] <wc_nix> oh crap
[12:13] <wc_nix> they're all commented
[12:13] <vicks> Howitzer: http://www.emailaddresses.com/email_imap.htm
[12:13] <nalioth> wc_nix: no prob, just uncomment them
[12:13] <robert__> xolotl_: ok, well i still have to run ifup eth0 to get eth0 up and running
[12:13] <Howitzer> oh my
[12:13] <Howitzer> ty vicks
[12:13] <robert__> wc_nix: then apt-get update
[12:14] <wc_nix> one sec
[12:14] <Howitzer> you guys were right after all about the waiting :D
[12:14] <wc_nix> i uncommented it but not used to nano
[12:14] <wc_nix> havent used nano in about 11 months
[12:14] <nalioth> deb-src http://perso.wanadoo.fr/debian/ unstable main
[12:14] <nalioth> crap
[12:14] <ompaul> Howitzer, would that be a breezy wait?
[12:14] <vicks> Howitzer: no problem
[12:14] <fabian_> got it! cu
[12:14] <nalioth> wc_nix: take your time
[12:14] <flodine> does ubuntu have a new xorg confi or do i need to update it
[12:14] <Howitzer> ompaul, what do you mean by breezy?
[12:14] <xolotl_> robert__, you shouldn't have to do any command line stuff really - check for settings in your /etc/?network? file - compare the 2 computers
[12:14] <ompaul> from the topic
[12:15] <wc_nix> hey
[12:15] <nalioth> Howitzer: breezy is the next version of ubuntu
[12:15] <zerokills> breezy badger
[12:15] <wc_nix> can i get MC real quick?
[12:15] <wc_nix> Midnight Commander
[12:15] <Howitzer> oh
[12:15] <wc_nix> i like it better for editing configs
[12:15] <nalioth> Howitzer: it doesn work very well atm
[12:15] <Howitzer> oh
[12:15] <xolotl_> robert__, pardon me, /etc/network is a directory, not a file - either way, check in there and compare the 2 comptuers
[12:15] <robert__> xolotl_: They are the same. /etc/network/interfaces has iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:15] <Howitzer> so i'll better wait untill it goes stable?
[12:15] <nickrud> wc_nix, I haven't heard some say that about mc in years :0
[12:15] <flodine> what version of xorg does ubuntu have
[12:15] <nalioth> Howitzer: YES
[12:15] <Howitzer> okay
[12:16] <nickrud> wc_nix, yeah, it's available from universe
[12:16] <Howitzer> as a noob, i should not be confronted with a non-stable OS :x
[12:16] <nalioth> wc_nix: you can "sudo apt-get install mc" and have it quickly
[12:16] <zerokills> howitzer: indeed. stick with ubuntu for now til you learn more
[12:16] <Howitzer> yep
[12:16] <xolotl_> robert__, are all the drivers / kernel modules the same?
[12:17] <Howitzer> but is Ubuntu good for learning, or also for perm. use?
[12:17] <chaps0063> I am having trouble with my sound, it used to play but doesn't anymore
[12:17] <robert__> xolotl_: in where? aliases?
[12:17] <nickrud> Howitzer, both
[12:17] <Mez> yeah howitzer - it's good for both :d
[12:17] <wc_nix> really
[12:17] <wc_nix> ?
[12:17] <wc_nix> but i dont have the servers setup yet
[12:17] <kimo> chaps0063: make sure it is not mute, use alsamixer or gnome's mixer
[12:17] <Howitzer> my dad said i should peek around a bit in Ubuntu, get to know Linux, and then step over to Debian Sarge
[12:17] <nalioth> wc_nix: yes you do
[12:17] <nickrud> wc_nix, you may need to enable universe in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:17] <zerokills> ive tried a few different distros, and ubuntu is the best
[12:17] <nalioth> wc_nix: it'll work
[12:17] <xolotl_> robert__, lsmod
[12:18] <robert__> already have
[12:18] <robert__> mii                     4736  1 via_rhine
[12:18] <chaps0063> kimo, ok, its workin now, thats what it was, the speaker was turned down
[12:18] <xolotl_> robert__, sorry man - without sticking my fingers in it, I'm having a hard time coming up with ideas
[12:18] <robert__> me too =\
[12:18] <Efwis> hmm, everytime I get that "alarm" sound my network usage jumps to a 90% or higher, and my load jumps to 5%. any Ideas what might be causing my issue?
[12:18] <xolotl_> robert__, you did try switching cards???
[12:19] <wc_nix> nalioth, i also uncommented the regular deb ones, is that good
[12:19] <wc_nix> ?
[12:19] <robert__> well, I can't
[12:19] <robert__> they're onboard
[12:19] <zerokills> i typed in 'pkill esd', and know the command to turn it back on?
[12:19] <kanzen> hi, I'm getting an error when using "apt-get install foo" to install a new kernel this holds true for kernels in both main and universe:  "/usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /dev/evms/.nodes/sdb5: Cannot find LVM device"
[12:19] <xolotl_> robert__, hence the hdd switch
[12:19] <zerokills> anyone know*
[12:19] <nickrud> zerokills, you can start esd in a terminal
[12:19] <robert__> yup
[12:19] <zerokills> nickrud: just type esd?
[12:19] <Howitzer> hmmm
[12:19] <wc_nix> btw does apt-get work like the emerge function in Gentoo?
[12:19] <nalioth> wc_nix: did you read the comments? some are outdated
[12:19] <nickrud> zerokills, yes, but it will tie up that terminal
[12:19] <Miks> how can i add a trash can icon in my desktop...i mean, not in the gnome panel...i want a trash icon in my desktop or in my launcher....whats the command to access the trash can?
[12:20] <kanzen> also there are a bunch of of "file descriptor n left open" where n is an integer 3 - 7
[12:20] <Howitzer> i forgot where i got my GMAIL extension :/
[12:20] <zerokills> nickrud: k thanks
[12:20] <robert__>  lspci -vv|grep Ethernet
[12:20] <robert__> 0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II]  (rev 74)
[12:20] <robert__>         Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine II]  Embeded Ethernet Controller on VT8235
[12:20] <nickrud> zerokills, a better method is alt-F2, and type esd there
[12:20] <nalioth> wc_nix: don't know, never used gentoo
[12:20] <xolotl_> robert__, how fresh is the install..? - tried re-installing/?
[12:20] <robert__> 1day
[12:20] <robert__> and yea
[12:20] <robert__> i have
[12:20] <Mez> hmm
[12:20] <nalioth> Miks: gconf i believe has a setting for that
[12:20] <Mez> I'm very very very very tempted to do a debian install aswell as this
[12:20] <kanzen> my root disks are mirrored with md (set up during the hoary install)
[12:20] <Miks> thanks nalioth
[12:20] <LinuxJones> wc_nix, it's fairly similar to emerge yeah
[12:20] <Mez> but but i dunno if it's worth it
[12:20] <xolotl_> robert__, do you remember how you enabled the other computer with your ISP?
[12:21] <zerokills> nickrud: sweet, thanks man
[12:21] <robert__> xolotl_: i didn't do anything
[12:21] <nalioth> mez, while hitting your head on the fence post?
[12:21] <robert__> it autodetected everything
[12:21] <wc_nix> k
[12:21] <xolotl_> robert__, sounds similar to Shaw here...
[12:21] <wc_nix> figured it was since Gentoo is debian-based
[12:21] <nickrud> zerokills, I've killed esd a zillion times, it's pretty ....
[12:21] <robert__> ?
[12:21] <nalioth> wc_nix: gentoo is debian based? huh?
[12:21] <robert__> wc_nix: gentoo isn't debian based
[12:21] <Howitzer> ffs
[12:22] <wc_nix> it isnt?
[12:22] <kanzen> I looked around and this seems to have been aknown issue with debian and a patch was created for mkinitrd to work around this. It looks like the patch was applied to the ubuntu mkinitrd and I can't seem to find any other references to this problem
[12:22] <robert__> no
[12:22] <wc_nix> i thought it was :-X
[12:22] <wc_nix> btw in X-Chat how the hell you change background to black, i did it once before
[12:22] <Howitzer> OR FF is going hella-slow, OR my internet connection is going at a max of 9600bauds :/
[12:23] <wc_nix> nevermind
[12:23] <wc_nix> i fixed it
[12:23] <wc_nix> :-D
[12:23] <zerokills> i'm getting an error from GAIM when i try to go into a chat using AIM connection: SNAC threw error: Request denied.  anyone have any ideas?
[12:23] <kanzen> oh and building an initrdless kernel using make-kpkg works fine
[12:23] <nalioth> wc_nix: use irssi
[12:23] <nalioth> zerokills: it is protecting you from the tAint
[12:24] <wc_nix> irssi?
[12:24] <Howitzer> i am SO happy Windows XP screwed up, otherwise i would've never tried Ubuntu at this level :d
[12:24] <zerokills> nalioth: tAint?
[12:24] <kanzen> so it seems like this has something to do with mkinitrd. I was also getting this problem on an earlier install with no RAID devices
[12:24] <xolotl_> robert__, gotta get going and try to get /my/ ubuntu installed, sorry - if I think of something, I'll try to get back in here.
[12:24] <kanzen> wc_nix: irssi is strong
[12:24] <zerokills> howistzer: welcome to Ubuntu :)
[12:24] <Howitzer> :D
[12:25] <Howitzer> it's been since the glorious wednesday :D
[12:25] <nickrud> Howitzer, welcome to the free world
[12:25] <Howitzer> indeed
[12:25] <Howitzer> and it's all so organized
[12:25] <nalioth> zerokills: along with winduhs, i hate AOL as much
[12:25] <Howitzer> apt-get can get you anything you desire
[12:25] <wc_nix> what is irssi
[12:25] <wc_nix> heard of it
[12:25] <zerokills> nalioth: aggreed
[12:25] <kanzen> wc_nix: console based IRC client
[12:25] <Howitzer> no roaming google fending off spam and trojans!
[12:25] <Howitzer> Oo
[12:25] <Howitzer> use X-chat
[12:26] <zerokills> nalioth: what do you suggest for a popular chat service?
[12:26] <Howitzer> although i miss the NNS script for mIRC :(
[12:26] <nalioth> zerokills: hmmmm IRC?
[12:26] <wc_nix> oh
[12:26] <wc_nix> i used bitchx for console IRC
[12:26] <zerokills> nalioth: heh
[12:26] <kanzen> wc_nix: irssi is like bitchX without the suck
[12:26] <wc_nix> lol
[12:26] <Howitzer> lol
[12:26] <wc_nix> actually, i think i have used irssi
[12:26] <Howitzer> is irssi an irc client? :x
[12:27] <wc_nix> i think it was on one of my liveCD distros
[12:27] <nalioth> kanzen: yessir
[12:27] <wc_nix> could have been knoppix std
[12:27] <nalioth> Howitzer: yes, shall i list all the irc clients i know of?
[12:27] <wc_nix> had to use it when x11 wouldnt open
[12:27] <nalioth> Howitzer: n/m there are far too many
[12:27] <Howitzer> ehh
[12:27] <Howitzer> no need :D
[12:27] <Howitzer> but isn't there an exact linux copy of mIRC?
[12:27] <Howitzer> including it's scripting function?
[12:28] <nalioth> Howitzer: xchat is closest, i believe
[12:28] <wc_nix> nalioth, i got mc from apt-get
[12:28] <wc_nix> :-D
[12:28] <wc_nix> woohoo
[12:28] <Howitzer> what is mc?
[12:28] <wc_nix> does apt-get also get all the dependencies?
[12:28] <Efwis> Howitzer: you could try bitchX, but not sure on that
[12:28] <nickrud> heh, is there a scriptable chat thingo I don't need to learn perl for :)
[12:28] <wc_nix> mc is Midnight Commander, an awesome console text editor
[12:28] <kanzen> mIRC is like McDonald's of IRC. It's quick, easy, ultimately unsatisfying and everyone associates it with IRC these days.
[12:28] <Howitzer> nickrud,  yes there is
[12:28] <nalioth> Howitzer: "midnight commander" an ancient (but still powerful) file mangler
[12:29] <nalioth> wc_nix: file mangler!
[12:29] <nalioth> hee hee
[12:29] <wc_nix> ?
[12:29] <blueyed> I have a tool that needs "/usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2" - in which package is it?
[12:29] <Howitzer> hmm i'll try it, i hate nautilus :x
[12:29] <nalioth> Howitzer: you'll be surprised. <eg>
[12:29] <nickrud> mc is a truly fine thing, it'll install on a extremely minimal linux install
[12:29] <nalioth> Howitzer: try konqueror
[12:29] <Howitzer> i'm not on KDE
[12:29] <nalioth> Howitzer: it doesnt matter, it'll install
[12:29] <Howitzer> i tried dl'ing it but i think i didn't get the full packge :x
[12:29] <zth__> geez! i lost all my sound by some reason, i tried the http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 tutorial there, when i restarted i got some alsa errors, so i got everyting back to normal and now i can't hear any sounds!!! i get no errors at all, the sounds just DEAD! amarok says it plays a song but i can't hear shit.
[12:30] <nalioth> Howitzer: apt-get will do it for ya
[12:30] <wc_nix> omg apt-get ROCKS
[12:30] <Howitzer> omg
[12:30] <Howitzer> IT DOES
[12:30] <wc_nix> thanks for helping me understand it
[12:30] <nickrud> zth__, have you tried resetting sound volumes with alsamixer
[12:30] <wc_nix> thanks so much nalioth
[12:30] <nalioth> wc_nix: we aint got started yet
[12:30] <blueyed> zth__: check that you haven't muted anything.
[12:30] <Howitzer> and i finally have the automated movement of apt-get install :d
[12:30] <wc_nix> i just used it to get xmms, but xmms wont run
[12:30] <wc_nix> heh
[12:30] <nalioth> wc_nix: ya ready for your lessons?
[12:31] <zth__> ohh
[12:31] <wc_nix> sure but one thing
[12:31] <wc_nix> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glib1.2/libglib1.2_1.2.10-9_amd64.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:31] <zth__> it was muted
[12:31] <zth__> lol
[12:31] <Howitzer> wai
[12:31] <Howitzer> wait
[12:31] <Howitzer> apt-get install automaticly installs a whole KDE package
[12:31] <nalioth> wc_nix: go in and change all the us.xxx.archive  to just xxx.archive
[12:31] <wc_nix> where?
[12:31] <Howitzer> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[12:31] <Howitzer>   dbus-qt-1 kcontrol kdebase-data kdebase-kio-plugins kfind konqueror
[12:31] <nalioth> Howitzer: apt-get will install what YOU tell it to
[12:32] <nickrud> Howitzer, if you just asked for konqueror, it will get *only* what it needs, not all of kde
[12:32] <Howitzer> for this time it doesn't actually
[12:32] <nalioth> Howitzer: that is by far not ALL of kde
[12:32] <Howitzer> oh
[12:32] <Howitzer> but i installed some other KDE pieces a while ago
[12:32] <nalioth> Howitzer: if you want kde, install "kubuntu-desktop"
[12:32] <Howitzer> oooooh
[12:32] <Howitzer> i did KDE :x
[12:33] <wc_nix> nalioth, where are those us.xxx.archive
[12:33] <wc_nix> ?
[12:33] <Howitzer> Linux rules Windows actually
[12:33] <pkmpar> I have a weird DMA problem. Hoping someone here can help me out
[12:33] <Howitzer> if they could just make some better emulators :(
[12:33] <pkmpar> anyone?
[12:33] <ompaul> how do I do a screenshot of only an a single application?
[12:33] <nalioth> wc_nix: in your sources.list
[12:34] <Howitzer> i want to play my games agian :x
[12:34] <wc_nix> k
[12:34] <parabolize> ompaul: in gnome?
[12:34] <Howitzer> ompaul, make a regular screenshot and crop it in a image viewer
[12:34] <ompaul> parabolize, yep
[12:34] <zerokills> howitzer: you need Cedega to play games
[12:34] <parabolize> crop with gimp
[12:34] <Miks> could somebody tell me...or somebody knows...where could i find this wallpaper http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/25009-1.png ?
[12:35] <Howitzer> zerokills, cedega doesn't work here for some obscure reason
[12:35] <wc_nix> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/
[12:35] <pkmpar> ompaul: alt+ print screen should do it
[12:35] <nickrud> ompaul, alt-print is supposed to do it, I had to remap
[12:35] <wc_nix> i change that to http://archive.ubuntu.com
[12:35] <wc_nix> ???
[12:35] <Livingstone__> My firefox doenst start (strace log here : http://pastebin.com/299142 ), any idea?
[12:35] <zerokills> howitzer: you mean in Ubuntu?  i have Cedega running on my system
[12:35] <nickrud> wc_nix, that will work
[12:35] <Howitzer> yes
[12:35] <wc_nix> k
[12:35] <Howitzer> i tried it on various games and nothing happens
[12:36] <kvidell> ugh.. general quesiton to anyone who knows: How does one change Font Kerning in The Gimp?
[12:36] <zerokills> howitzer: well, i have it working on my system. did you play around with for a while?
[12:36] <Howitzer> well not long
[12:36] <ompaul> pkmpar, just for laughs gnome-screenshot is dying on alt+printscreen
[12:36] <bigbill52a> had to dump ubuntu...as much as i liked it...the kde desktop and programs like konqueror caused my xserver to crash randomly
[12:37] <nalioth> wc_nix: yes, remove the us. part of it
[12:37] <wc_nix> did that
[12:37] <KAIOUCYTE> i'm having the same problem... bigbill
[12:37] <wc_nix> next step.
[12:37] <Howitzer> it took me 2 hours to realize /program files/ actually was /program\ files/ in Ubuntu >_<
[12:37] <parabolize> kvidell ask in #gimp they would know
[12:37] <nickrud> ompaul, in gconf-editor, apps/panel/global/window_screen_shot_key, map that to something that works
[12:37] <pkmpar> ompaul, thats odd, I just tried it works fine here.  ummm..
[12:37] <bigbill52a> the screen fills with little grey boxes and only pressing the on switch once forces an halt
[12:37] <kvidell> parabolize: Oh.. heh >.> Didn't think to check if they had a room here, Thanks!
[12:37] <kanzen> bob2 are you around?
[12:37] <cut0ff> Hi all
[12:37] <nalioth> wc_nix: update your apt (sudo apt-get update)
[12:37] <ompaul> nickrud, will try
[12:37] <wc_nix> k
[12:38] <pkmpar> hda: DMA timeout error
[12:38] <pkmpar> hda: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
[12:38] <pkmpar> hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x61
[12:38] <bigbill52a> switched to debian...but it hangs sometimes at bootup...
[12:38] <nickrud> ompaul, it will work, I used alt-f12
[12:38] <pkmpar> Any ideas bout this anyone. I've got a seriously crippled system with no DMA
[12:38] <wc_nix> btw what's the command to install a .deb file?
[12:38] <ompaul> pkmpar, thanks for that, parabolize Howitzer :)
[12:38] <Howitzer> I have a general question: How come Linux people are so much nicer, polite and serious(but yet funny)?(if you compare to regular windows internet)
[12:38] <wc_nix> this is the first debian-based distro i've used
[12:38] <ompaul> nicklt77, okay I will do that now#]
[12:39] <KAIOUCYTE> i can not recreate the xorg.config file and therefore i can't boot into the X window.
[12:39] <nickrud> Howitzer, visit #debian :)
[12:39] <Howitzer> ompaul,  could you explain the parabolize?(i'm Dutch you see :D )
[12:39] <nalioth> wc_nix: and the best
[12:39] <bigbill52a> if you use
[12:39] <bigbill52a> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
[12:39] <wc_nix> well i believe that
[12:39] <Howitzer> ehh
[12:39] <wc_nix> because i've tried 7 other distros on this laptop
[12:39] <wc_nix> and none would work with my screen
[12:39] <Howitzer> are #debian'ers bad people? :x
[12:39] <bigbill52a> you can use most off the multimedia entries from the unofficial guide
[12:39] <wc_nix> Ubuntu is the only one to work with this screen
[12:40] <wc_nix> the only one that i tried**
[12:40] <nalioth> Howitzer: they are grumpy, yes ,but may give you info
[12:40] <nickrud> Howitzer, no, they just expect you to read the fine manual first, so you know what to ask
[12:40] <Howitzer> oh
[12:40] <Howitzer> but they are funny though :D
[12:40] <Howitzer> joking-alike :D
[12:40] <wc_nix> next step?
[12:41] <geargolem> Hoary Synaptic failed to execute child process: gksudo no such file
[12:41] <nickrud> Howitzer, but, if you don't know which manual to read, they flame you
[12:41] <Howitzer> lol
[12:41] <ompaul> okay so I got me a bug
[12:41] <KAIOUCYTE> is there a way to install ubuntu in one partition and the software in  a different partition.  This is so everytime i re-install ubutnu i won't have to install the software all over again.
[12:41] <Howitzer> nice to know :D
[12:41] <cut0ff> anyone know about apt-build??
[12:41] <bigbill52a> hehe...sounds like me...
[12:41] <Howitzer> cut0ff, does it even exist actually? :/
[12:41] <nalioth> wc_nix: what problems are you having exactly with stuff not installing?
[12:42] <wc_nix> it works now
[12:42] <nalioth> cut0ff: apt-build? a little bit
[12:42] <wc_nix> apt-get worked for xmms
[12:42] <nickrud> KAIOUCYTE, not really, an install is an install
[12:42] <geargolem> how to reinstall synaptic?
[12:42] <wc_nix> but for some reason firefox wouldnt install
[12:42] <KAIOUCYTE> :(   ... too bad... i realy liked ubuntu.
[12:42] <wc_nix> another thing is it gives some errors when opening xmms and xmms still opens, are the errors really problematic?
[12:42] <nickrud> KAIOUCYTE, it's the same for any operating system
[12:43] <bigbill52a> kaioucyte..if you dont install ANY kde programs...it wont crash
[12:43] <nickrud> lol
[12:43] <bigbill52a> but i like some the kde programs
[12:43] <ompaul> nickrud, it is still dying
[12:43] <geargolem> is it possible to reinstall Gnome over KDE in Hoary and not lose files?
[12:43] <nickrud> ompaul, I haven't tried remapping in this install, a sec
[12:43] <nalioth> wc_nix: then i recommend you add to your sources.list universe and multiverse http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:43] <ompaul> I'll go have a poke around news and stuff and see if there is a known bug out there
[12:43] <KAIOUCYTE> yes...,i like the KDE browser...  but i'll sacrifice it.
[12:44] <wc_nix> what's exact thing to add though?
[12:44] <wc_nix> what's the format?
[12:44] <ompaul> nickrud, it is reasonably fresh here, (one week old)
[12:44] <Pluton2> Ubuntu PPC channels?
[12:44] <nalioth> wc_nix: go to that URL and read it
[12:44] <nickrud> ompaul, I'm messing with breezy at the moment, so ....
[12:44] <nalioth> wc_nix: it goes in your sources.list
[12:44] <wc_nix> k
[12:44] <bigbill52a> this is a problem with both 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 with or without the ati drivers installed
[12:44] <wc_nix> thanks
[12:44] <Howitzer> wiiiiiiiiiiii i'm going to go to school in a linux t-shirt and express my true feelings for Ubuntu <3
[12:44] <nalioth> Pluton2: what did you need re PPC
[12:45] <ompaul> nickrud, my mileage may vary
[12:45] <dizzie> awww :)
[12:45] <kvidell> s 4
[12:45] <bigbill52a> something different between debian and ubuntu...because debian works fine..if you can get it to boot up
[12:45] <Pluton2> I need help setting up my sound. xmms only works with esound.
[12:45] <munki> Howitzer , nice :D~
[12:45] <kvidell> :-\
[12:45] <cut0ff> nalioth   I'm getting an error 'Imposible obtener http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/memstat/me mstat_0.4_i386.deb  El tamao difiere '
[12:45] <Howitzer> hehe
[12:45] <Howitzer> i'm not even sure if i want to install windows on this system again :x
[12:45] <Pluton2> nalioth: by some reason alsa neither oss works.
[12:46] <nalioth> cut0ff: i dont understand spanish, but try removing the es. part from the addresses in your sources.list
[12:46] <ompaul> Pluton2, do you have two soound cards on that device?
[12:46] <nalioth> Pluton2: have you been to the wiki?
[12:46] <Howitzer> is Evolution a good mailclient? or should i use another one?
[12:46] <nickrud> ompaul, it's not working here either.
[12:46] <Pluton2> ompaul: NO is a Ibook g3.
[12:47] <nalioth> Howitzer: there are several email clients
[12:47] <ompaul> Pluton2, ahh okay then
[12:47] <Pluton2> nalioth: 6 hours working on it.
[12:47] <nalioth> Howitzer: sylpheed thunderbird mutt pine and more
[12:47] <Howitzer> i'm thinking of using Thunderbird because of the extensions :x
[12:47] <Howitzer> hmm
[12:47] <nickrud> ompaul, when I actually read what gconf-editor said, short description was 'depreciated'
[12:47] <cut0ff> nalioth  thanks at all
[12:47] <Howitzer> i heard a bit of pine, is it good?
[12:48] <ompaul> nickrud, that might explain the lack of a change then :)
[12:48] <nalioth> Pluton2: i've had no trouble with sound here on my G3/600 after followin the wiki
[12:48] <nickrud> lol, it helps to read stuff
[12:48] <nalioth> Howitzer: they are all FREE to try (no price tag)
[12:48] <nalioth> Howitzer: try them all, use what you like
[12:49] <nalioth> Pluton2: did you read this one http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SoundProblemsHoary
[12:49] <nalioth> okay folks, the life of a taxi driver is never dull
[12:49] <nalioth> g2g
[12:49] <nalioth> wc_nix: you have fun, i'll be back
[12:50] <nalioth> wc_nix: got lots more tricks you're gonna need runnin amd64
[12:50] <Pluton2> nalioth: I will try check the wiki again, thaks for the link,
[12:50] <wc_nix> k
[12:50] <wc_nix> i'll leave IRC open so leave message just to let me know when you get back
[12:50] <wc_nix> i'm gonna go eat supper, bbl, thanks again
[12:51] <geargolem> I need help reinstalling Gnome over KDE in Hoary
[12:51] <adrian__> aaaargh
[12:51] <adrian__> wait
[12:51] <adrian__> where is Howitzer?
[12:51] <nickrud> geargolem, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will get you gnome, properly
[12:51] <geargolem> thanks nickrud
[12:52] <nickrud> geargolem, np, I like easy questions :)
[12:53] <JohnnyQuest> can anyone help me install LAME in ubuntu?
[12:54] <cut0ff> nickrud   better sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> apt-get install lame
[12:54] <nickrud> cut0ff, heh, I've been there, and, since I'm polite, I just say that kdeprintfax is a wonderful thing with openoffice
[12:56] <Howitzer> FFS
[12:56] <nickrud> JohnnyQuest, and, if lsuactiafner's advice doesn't work, ask for help with your sources.list
[12:56] <JohnnyQuest> is there a way to check if lame is installed?
[12:56] <Howitzer> my computer shut itself down completely twice
[12:56] <JohnnyQuest> his advice didnt help
[12:56] <Howitzer> JohnnyQuest, search for it
[12:56] <JohnnyQuest> i did /configure and then make and then make installed
[12:56] <KAIOUCYTE> which one is better for a 2GHz laptop....  Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[12:56] <JohnnyQuest> and that all worked
[12:56] <nickrud> JohnnyQuest, ack
[12:57] <JohnnyQuest> but, id ont know where it installed it or anything...
[12:57] <JohnnyQuest> i dont know how any of that works
[12:57] <Howitzer> Oh my god
[12:57] <JohnnyQuest> im new to linux
[12:57] <Howitzer> 1 upgraded, 147 newly installed, 0 to remove and 23 not upgraded.
[12:57] <Howitzer> Need to get 15.4MB/85.2MB of archives.
[12:57] <Howitzer> After unpacking 238MB of additional disk space will be used.
[12:57] <nickrud> JohnnyQuest, I would think that it's in /usr/local/bin
[12:57] <Howitzer> Oo
[12:57] <nickrud> JohnnyQuest, if it is, you should be able to use it just fine
[12:57] <DaSkreech> installing breezy
[12:57] <Howitzer> apt-get can resume anytime?
[12:58] <Howitzer> JohnnyQuest, are you using Gnome?
[12:58] <nickrud> Howitzer, you can shut off your computer, and apt-get will (99.44% of the time) recover just fine
[12:58] <Howitzer> cool
[12:58] <JohnnyQuest> well im not rying to use it, i just need it for installing mythtv
[12:58] <Howitzer> but what isn't cool
[12:58] <Howitzer> is:
[12:58] <JohnnyQuest> i dont know what gnome is...
[12:58] <DaSkreech> mythtv sure is popular
[12:58] <Howitzer> my computer completely shut itself down twice Oo
[12:58] <nickrud> JohnnyQuest, so, does ls /usr/bin/lame show lame?
[12:59] <nickrud> JohnnyQuest, so, does ls /usr/local/bin/lame show lame?  ( heh )
[12:59] <katoc> hi everybody
[12:59] <JohnnyQuest> i dont even know how to go there..
[12:59] <JohnnyQuest> or anything..
[01:00] <Howitzer> okay
[01:00] <Howitzer> ehh
[01:00] <Howitzer> how did you get inhere?
[01:00] <Howitzer> do you use X-Chat now?
[01:00] <JohnnyQuest> i know irc pretty well
[01:00] <JohnnyQuest> no
[01:00] <JohnnyQuest> mirc
[01:00] <hou5ton> JohnnyQuest:  try Linspire
[01:00] <JohnnyQuest> no
[01:00] <JohnnyQuest> ubuntu is what i want after reading about the stuff
[01:00] <Howitzer> nooooooooooooooo
[01:00] <hou5ton> :-)
[01:00] <DaSkreech> JohnnyQuest, What are you asking?
[01:00] <nickrud> JohnnyQuest, then, you need to use what ubuntu offers
[01:01] <Howitzer> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdeutils/kregexp editor_3.4.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:01] <Howitzer> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdeutils/kdeutil s_3.4.0-0ubuntu2_all.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:01] <Howitzer> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-mis sing?
[01:01] <Howitzer> all the packages are MD5Sum mismatch
[01:01] <JohnnyQuest> i just want to install mythtv
[01:01] <nickrud> JohnnyQuest, before compiling stuff, ask here if it's available
[01:01] <Howitzer> wth do i need to do?
[01:01] <JohnnyQuest> but before i install mythtv, i need lame
[01:01] <DaSkreech> JohnnyQuest, OK
[01:01] <DaSkreech> apt-gt install lame
[01:01] <JohnnyQuest> didnt work
[01:01] <DaSkreech> apt-get
[01:01] <DaSkreech> What error did you get?
[01:02] <zukalk> maybe he needs to extra repositories? (newb here too)
[01:02] <JohnnyQuest> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
 E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[01:02] <slept>  lame is in multiverse
[01:02] <afroman> hi guys
[01:02] <zukalk> oh, that
[01:02] <DaSkreech> :-)
[01:02] <afroman> I was here a while ago
[01:02] <parabolize> sudo apt-get install lame ;)
[01:02] <zukalk> add 'sudo'
[01:02] <DaSkreech> in front
[01:02] <katoc> someone has done this... i need to add packages to the ubuntu install cd
[01:02] <nickrud> hey, afroman
[01:02] <afroman> I had a prob with my monitor settings
[01:02] <JohnnyQuest> what does sudo do?
[01:02] <JohnnyQuest> thats how i got make install to work
[01:03] <DaSkreech> it makes you act as if you are root
[01:03] <parabolize> super user do = sudo
[01:03] <DaSkreech> for the remainder of the command
[01:03] <JohnnyQuest> i got teh same error
[01:03] <nickrud> afroman, did you find the vertical refresh and horizontal sync for your monitor?
[01:03] <JohnnyQuest> except
[01:03] <slept> katoc, why does it have to be on the install cd  ?
[01:03] <JohnnyQuest> it asked if another process was using it?
[01:03] <afroman> nickrud not really...
[01:03] <DaSkreech> Do you have apt-get running in another window?
[01:03] <nickrud> afroman, what monitor did you have?
[01:04] <nickrud> afroman, brand and model :)
[01:04] <JohnnyQuest> didnt think so
[01:04] <JohnnyQuest> ill close everything
[01:04] <afroman> nickrud I tried xorgconf, but now I have a prob with my mouse
[01:04] <slept> JohnnyQuest, do you have synaptic or the kde package thing running ?
[01:04] <zukalk> JohnnyQuest, usually if asks you that, it's because you have Synaptic running
[01:04] <JohnnyQuest> i have snaptic running
[01:04] <JohnnyQuest> ill close it
[01:04] <nickrud> afroman, hmm, what kind?
[01:04] <DaSkreech> That needs to be closed
[01:04] <afroman> nickrud> I have Compaq Presario V510
[01:05] <spencer_> Package lame is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:05] <spencer_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:05] <spencer_> is only available from another source
[01:05] <spencer_> E: Package lame has no installation candidate
[01:05] <katoc> slept, because i want to install the packages since begin
[01:05] <JohnnyQuest> thats the error
[01:06] <DaSkreech> ah
[01:06] <DaSkreech> maybe it's not in your list?
[01:06] <nickrud> afroman, ooh, thats an oldie i think
[01:06] <hans_> I to get the same error (a MD5Sum mismatch)  from http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:06] <DaSkreech> apt-cache search lame
[01:06] <afroman> what are the usual setting for a mouse
[01:06] <Howitzer> hans_,  with what?
[01:06] <Howitzer> Kubuntu as well?
[01:06] <slept> katoc, what packages do you need from beginning on ? you can burn all these on a cd and dpkg -i /cdrom/*.deb
[01:06] <katoc> slept , and because on Pc's i need to instal ubuntu won't have internet
[01:06] <afroman> nickrud yes it is
[01:07] <katoc> i need from begin , GNUstep, projectcenter and gorm
[01:07] <De1> hi ppl
[01:07] <zukalk> hey guys, do you think i should use Firestarter? i'm behind a NAT/Router with only port 80 redirected to my PC (and only for HTTP protocol)
[01:07] <De1> just joining ubuntu
[01:08] <gskillet> I had a wireless connection (PCMCIA Card), and when I removed the card and re-inserted it, Linux has begun giving me the following error and will not let me use the card: eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[01:08] <duende> Help: I'm having a problem with synaptic in ubuntu, it appears that none of my packages will isntall through it. I tried to do a apt-get upgrade through console and i get an error "`Depends' field, reference to `libc6`: version contains ` ' and then i get a seg fault message
[01:08] <JohnnyQuest> told me, pearl enhancement to car error logging facilities
[01:08] <afroman> when I run xorgconfig I get to choose where the mouse is, and where does usualy a PS/2 mouseis
[01:09] <jayeola> gskillet: don't just remove the card....
[01:09] <nickrud> afroman, I cannot find any info on that monitor either
[01:09] <jayeola> what's yr distro?
[01:09] <flodine_> who was helping me with the 1900x1200 resolution
[01:10] <zukalk> does anyone use Firestarter at all?
[01:10] <gskillet> jayeola: it's too late, i pulled out the PCMCIA from the Slot, and then slipped it back in to get a number off of it, now i cant use it anymore without reformatting my linux
[01:10] <jayeola> sheesh "what's yr distro" did i even ask that question? shoot me!
[01:10] <Howitzer> what is Firestarter?
[01:10] <Efwis> <--uses firestarter
[01:10] <VRH> is a firewall
[01:10] <afroman> nickrud, when I run xorgconfig I get to choose where the mouse is, and where does usualy a PS/2 mouseis
[01:10] <nickrud> afroman, I suggest you use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , it's a bit smarter that X's built in configurator
[01:10] <Howitzer> firewall in Linux?  I need the 7664 nvidia drivers for a GF6200.
[01:11] <nickrud> afroman, don't choose the mouse, let the config program try it's own probing. It almost always works
[01:11] <jayeola> try `man -k pcmcia`
[01:11] <gskillet> ok
[01:12] <zukalk> Efwis - i only have HTTP through port 80 redirected to my pc. should i use firestarter?
[01:12] <nickrud> afroman, note almost
[01:12] <Howitzer> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdeutils/kregexp editor_3.4.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:12] <gskillet> jayeola it gives me a nice list of tools, will any of these help me?
[01:12] <Howitzer> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdeutils/kdeutil s_3.4.0-0ubuntu2_all.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:12] <Howitzer> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-mis
[01:12] <Howitzer> what cn i do gainst it?
[01:12] <Efwis> zukalk, its not really a common port to worry about, but there are some malicious bots out there that scan all ports
[01:12] <gm78> parabolize: why would u need to install that?
[01:12] <slept> katoc, with dpkg-scanpackages you can generate a packages.list , look at the man page with that you should be abled to generate cd's which you can add to your sources.list with apt-cdrom
[01:12] <gm78> im running the 7664 drivers and i never did that
[01:13] <nickrud> Howitzer, us.archive.ubuntu.com is down, try changing that to archive.ubuntu.com for now
[01:13] <Howitzer> how? :x
[01:13] <flodine_> a guys why does ubuntu 1900x1200 look so fuzzy
[01:13] <concept10> does ubuntu work with old woody .debs?
[01:13] <nickrud> concept10, lol
[01:14] <Efwis> zukalk, i would run it, I have had 8 scans in the last 2 hours while its up, and they were malicious hits
[01:14] <parabolize> gm78: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=51393&page=3
[01:14] <zukalk> Efwis, and are you behind somekinda NAT/router?
[01:14] <bigbill52a> those people over in debian are very quiet....
[01:14] <nickrud> concept10, ubuntu works with ubuntu debs. Maybe etch debs will work someday.
[01:14] <Efwis> nope, i don't use a router of any kind
[01:15] <Efwis> I just ahve a direct connect to my dsl line
[01:15] <Efwis> err have
[01:15] <gm78> parabolize : how are you trying to install the drivers? from nvidia's website or from a deb?
[01:15] <nickrud> nickrud <--- runs a firewall, even though all services listen only to localhost
[01:15] <parabolize> website
[01:15] <nickrud> I'm paranoid
[01:15] <zukalk> Efwis, ok thanks, i'll give it a go
[01:15] <parabolize> there is a 7664 deb?
[01:15] <darGor> Hello. i've a .rar file. how to unrar it ?
[01:15] <Efwis> its a good thing to have, and it doesn't use a lot of resources
[01:15] <katoc> 10x slept
[01:15] <nickrud> darGor, you need rar-unfree
[01:15] <afroman> nickrud, I did let it do it and then it suggested that     Identifier  "Mouse1"
[01:15] <afroman>     Driver      "mouse"
[01:15] <afroman>     Option "Protocol"    "PS/2"
[01:15] <afroman>     Option "Device"      "/dev/tty00"
[01:16] <gm78> parabolize : oh, i just thought there might be cause u r having problems i never had. have u tried to install the driver already? i never touched libc
[01:16] <darGor> nickrud, it's a program?
[01:16] <nickrud> afroman, you have a serial mouse?
[01:16] <zukalk> Efwis, as opposed to windoze firewalls ;)
[01:16] <gm78> parabolize : and it is running great for me
[01:16] <katoc> im gonna chek it... i'll be back
[01:16] <Efwis> yeah,
[01:16] <parabolize> gm78: doom3 and glxgears run?
[01:16] <nickrud> hm, that's not a very bright question
[01:16] <Efwis> sukalk, you really dont' need an AV on here like winblows, but it is suggested to use a firewall regardless
[01:16] <afroman> nickrud, sorry that was after my changes
[01:17] <gm78> parabolize : i dont do a lot of "3D" things so im not sure, but is 1300 FPS good?
[01:17] <gskillet> jayeola: you still there?
[01:17] <gm78> for a GeForce FX 5200?
[01:17] <parabolize> ok
[01:17] <nickrud> afroman, personally, I'd sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/Xorg.conf.not-working, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and hit enter every chance I got
[01:18] <nickrud> afroman, since I don't know the hardware
[01:18] <parabolize> gm78 I could not get doom3 to run with the new driver.
[01:18] <JDahl> gm78, if that's with tiny glxgears window, then I dont think that's particularly impressing
[01:18] <slept> afroman, do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , the preselections should be right
[01:18] <zukalk> Efwis, but i've heard there *are* linux AV. who uses them? companies?
[01:18] <gm78> JDahl : im running a bunch of other stuff too....i could close everything and try. im playing a video at the same time
[01:18] <Efwis> yes, I have one too, but I do malware cleaning for windows users and I get rootkits and the like sent to me via email
[01:19] <JDahl> gm78, impressive I mean
[01:19] <afroman> nickrud, slept, I did tried that and it didn't work
[01:19] <gm78> parabolize : try using one driver version back, nvidia will still have it in their archives
[01:19] <slept> zukalk, I use av  - it's on a server to make sure windows shit doesn't go to other machines over samba .
[01:19] <zukalk> Efwis - rootkits?
[01:19] <afroman> nickrud, slept, the same problem remains
[01:20] <darGor> nickrud, it's a program? i cant get it with apt
[01:20] <parabolize> gm78 yes but 7174 won't run GF6200
[01:20] <zukalk> slept - oh i see
[01:20] <gm78> parabolize : what should my FPS be sitting at, do u know?
[01:20] <Efwis> sukalk, rootkits are viruses and the like that attack Windows at their root level, uses a similar setup to our sudo
[01:20] <gm78> parabolize : i386 or x86_64?
[01:20] <nickrud> afroman, I think we've reached my level of competency, without my sitting at your machine
[01:20] <JDahl> gm78, I think I got 2000 fps with the same test on an IBM thinkpad/Radeon 9000 Mobile
[01:20] <nickrud> darGor, you were looking for lame?
[01:20] <parabolize> gm78 x86 k7 kernel
[01:21] <darGor> nickrud, looking to unrar a .rar
[01:21] <parabolize> not 64bit
[01:21] <gm78> JDahl : thats very odd then if that is not impressive. America's Army works awesome for me
[01:21] <nickrud> darGor, sorry, but actually, it's the same problem, I think :)
[01:21] <gm78> parabolize : what did the drivers do when u tried to install them?
[01:21] <Howitzer> WOOHOO
[01:21] <gm78> parabolize : did x not start or something?
[01:21] <nickrud> darGor, unrar-nonfree is in the multiverse section, you need to enable it
[01:22] <Howitzer> i finally got myself a free IMAP mail adress  \ o /
[01:22] <slept> afroman, move your old config to some other place , do the md5sum thing described at the beginning of xorg.conf and then restart configureing
[01:22] <JDahl> gm78, as you pointed out yourself, you're running all kinds of other stuff in the background (which I doubt you do when you're playing 3D games)
[01:22] <parabolize> gm78 the driver installs nice and happy. doom3 is what dosn't work. stops with opengl errors.
[01:22] <nickrud> darGor, I would suggest replacing your /etc/sources.list with http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ExampleConffiles
[01:22] <gm78> JDahl : I closed everything but this window (Chatzilla) and I only got 100 FPS more (about 1450)
[01:22] <darGor> nickrud, i searched. there's two prgoramas, unrar-nonfree and unrar. unrar-nonfree is shareware, right?
[01:23] <nickrud> darGor, no, it's a
[01:23] <gm78> parabolize : im not entirely sure then. america's army is the extent of my pc gaming
[01:23] <gm78> parabolize : sorry man, thought i could help
[01:23] <Pluton2> help with ibook G3 sound; xmms work with libesdout.so but gstreamer fail in alsa and oss "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'"
[01:23] <nickrud> darGor, stuff in multiverse have licensing or patent problems, but they will cost you nothing to use
[01:23] <jd_> whats up guys
[01:23] <xbalanque> hi all! I've just installed Ubuntu 5.04 and after finishing installation, I can't make it recognize the cd device. "ide-cd" module is there, everything seems all right, but the "hdc" doesn't appear, not in /dev not in /proc/ide. I just can't find out what is missing. Any ideas that I should try ? -- Strangely enough, if I boot the live ubuntu it works ...
[01:23] <gm78> JDahl : it is an older card tho
[01:23] <darGor> aah ok nickrud thanks
[01:23] <nickrud> darGor, it's a philosophical difference
[01:24] <zukalk> i was trying Nessus ( http://ubuntuguide.org/#nessus ) and it said 'nessusd returned an empty report'. is this good?
[01:24] <jd_> I just got ubuntu its great so far I hate microsoft
[01:24] <Efwis> yep thats good
[01:25] <zukalk> i'll try without the FW now
[01:25] <zukalk> same result :)
[01:25] <flodine_> can someone tell me why after installing nvidia driver ubuntu get a black screen
[01:25] <nern> hey
[01:26] <nern> my cd writer only writes at about 16x in ubuntu but full speed in windows is there something i can do to fix this
[01:26] <gm78> flodine_ : post ur /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[01:26] <xbalanque> flodine, have you checked the logs: /var/log/XOrg.log, or somthing like this
[01:26] <gm78> flodine_ : in pastebin please :P
[01:26] <zukalk> flodine_ i have the same prob with my ATI with all drivers, except for vesa of course.
[01:26] <nern> my cd writer only writes at about 16x in ubuntu but full speed in windows is there something i can do to fix this
[01:26] <JohnnyQuest> anyone know how to install xmltv into unbuntu?
[01:27] <slept> flodine, zukalk, did you install the resticted moules or just replace the xorg.conf entries ?
[01:27] <zukalk> flodine_ so far the only thing that worked for me was adding "HorizSync 28-61" and "VertRefresh 60" in Section Monitor of my xorg.conf
[01:28] <zukalk> slept, yes, and 3D accel works fine with ati, radeon and fglrx
[01:28] <xbalanque> flodine, http://pastebin.com/299155
[01:28] <zukalk> slept, but i had to add the horizsync and vertfresh first
[01:28] <nern> my cd writer only writes at about 16x in ubuntu but full speed in windows is there something i can do to fix this
[01:29] <flodine_> zukalk well can you use the nvidia drivers now
[01:29] <bigbill52a> with the sources.list from unofficial guide the restricted modules seem to be xfree drivers...fglrx creates an xfree.conf
[01:29] <zukalk> flodine_ ati, in my case ;) but i prefer the fglrx
[01:29] <nickrud> bigbill52a, if I may, ubuntuguide sources suck
[01:30] <bigbill52a> fglrxconf creates an xfree.conf file rather than an xorg.conf
[01:30] <flodine_> zukalk is there a way to fix the black screen
[01:31] <zukalk> like i said, in my case it worked when i added "  HorizSync 28-61  " and   "VertRefresh  60" in Section "Monitor" in my xorg.conf
[01:31] <bigbill52a> i just downloaded the ati driver and learned how to install it
[01:31] <zukalk> i only did it cause someone in a forum did it and it worked
[01:31] <Fanskapet> have anyone succeded in compiling CUBE for 64bit ubuntu?
[01:31] <zukalk> are using 'nv' or 'nvidia' drivers?
[01:32] <flodine_> nv
[01:32] <bigbill52a> debian is nice but hangs at boot up...randomly or i wouldnt be on here
[01:32] <zukalk> flodine_ i'm not familiar with nVidia, but have you tried both?
[01:33] <flodine_> zukalk im on a 24 inch 1900x1200
[01:33] <nickrud> zukalk, bigbill52a flodine the offical answer (as given by people who should know) is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto, but, since I have neither an ati or nvidia, ymmv
[01:33] <flodine_> wide making me sick
[01:33] <bigbill52a> ubuntu is nice but kde crashes the xserver
[01:33] <zukalk> wow, 24''? 1900x1200 ?
[01:33] <gm78> back
[01:34] <zukalk> nickrud, yeah, i've followed those, but the problem was actually monitor-related, the rest was fine
[01:34] <slept> flodine, read the log file in /var/log/Xorg.log, you have to find the first error then you will know more about your problem
[01:34] <gm78> I just installed the old 7174 nvidia drivers and i gained about 300 FPS
[01:34] <flodine_> zukalk yeah got it looking great but when i install nvidia drivers my system screen goes black
[01:34] <nickrud> zukalk, then I'll shut up :)
[01:34] <gskillet> Help Requested: Problem with Wireless PCMCIA Card - Card worked fine initially, problem started after removing the card and then re-inserting it into the PCMCIA slot - Now Ubuntu will not use the card and refers to it as: No device found for eth1.  The last time I had this problem I was forced to re-install Ubuntu, can someone help me figure out what to do?  (So far I have tried re-inserting Orinoco drivers and re-installing PCMCIA packages),
[01:34] <gskillet>  my card is 802.11b Netgear Wireless 16bit PCMCIA MA401
[01:35] <flodine_> thxs slept
[01:35] <parabolize> gm78: lol
[01:36] <gm78> parabolize : lol, yeah, i know. ill just wait for their next driver release, nvidia is good about fixing problems quickly, even if they just affect one distro
[01:37] <parabolize> gm78 the libc6 dependency effects everybody I can think of but FC3 and gentoo...
[01:37] <gm78> parabolize : oh, even better than. nvidia will fix it even quicker then probably
[01:38] <parabolize> but can I wait... NO! :)
[01:39] <clem_> hi there
[01:39] <zukalk> hey
[01:39] <nickrud> hi, clem
[01:40] <gm78> parabolize : have u googled for any nvidia debs for ubuntu?
[01:40] <clem_> I just installed a fresh 5.0.4, the system freezes while using evolution
[01:40] <clem_> do you think this could be a graphics card problem ?
[01:40] <parabolize> gm78 not really
[01:41] <nickrud> clem_, I use evolution all the time, it never freezes any other time?
[01:41] <clem_> twice in 5 minutes
[01:42] <clem_> nickrud, it could be my X86 conf... I remember experiencing this problem with other distros
[01:43] <nickrud> clem_, I would think it's almost anything but evolution, but ...
[01:43] <zukalk> i read this in some article: Another Note: Ubuntu installs with a default kernel set for i386 processors. Because I use an i686 kernel, I found upgrading also increased my system performance significantly. To do this, you can use Synaptic to search for linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7 if you use AMD or linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 for Pentium Pro/Celeron/Pentium II/Pentium III/Pentium IV.
[01:43] <nickrud> zukalk, true
[01:43] <zukalk> and i was thinking of getting the 686 linux image
[01:43] <HillTop> Hi folks, I just installed Hoary, had Warty earlier. Made updates with gnome-app-install. How do I get from Firefox 1.0.2 to 1.0.4 so I can use the addons? Thanks
[01:44] <zukalk> is there anything special i have to do, beside using Synaptic? (sounds too easy)
[01:44] <nickrud> zukalk, no, and, while you're at it, change to libc6-i686
[01:44] <piranha> hola
[01:44] <zukalk> and what'll happen on reboot?
[01:44] <clem_> ok I'll try taking dri and glx out... thanks guys
[01:45] <nickrud> zukalk, grub had no problem changing over to the 686 kernel for me
[01:45] <philwozza> are the standard ubuntu kernels patched against exec shield?
[01:45] <Efwis> I personally dropped evolution, to me its a piece of crap, plus it wouldn't get all my email
[01:46] <zukalk> nickrud -- so is it really as simple as apt-getting linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 and libc6-i686 ?
[01:46] <wc_nix> back
[01:46] <nickrud> I use imap on my localhost, so I'm pretty much client agnostic these days :)
[01:46] <nickrud> zukalk, yes, that simple.
[01:46] <bronson_> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnet/libgnet2.0-0_2.0.4-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:46] <zukalk> nickrud -- great, i'll try it later then ;)
[01:47] <nickrud> bronson, the us archive is bad, you need to switch to another
[01:47] <bronson_> nickrud: thanks.
[01:47] <Efwis> your lucky then nickrud
[01:47] <zukalk> about evolution: i found that it never caught my daily dose of viagra/cialis/whatever spam, so i switched to mozilla
[01:47] <Efwis> lol
[01:47] <nickrud> Efwis, no, I do it on my local machine
[01:48] <Efwis> ahh
[01:48] <nickrud> Efwis, I can read mail with kmail, evolution, whatever, and the store stays consistent
[01:49] <Efwis> nice, i wouldn't have the foggiest idea how to set that up lol, still somewhat a noob to linux here
[01:49] <nickrud> Efwis, look at dovecot, it's in the repositories, and should just drop right in
[01:49] <pops> yo
[01:49] <pops> hows every 1
[01:50] <Efwis> hmm, through synaptic?
[01:50] <nickrud> Efwis, you will need to read up on fetchmail (gets your pop3 mail and hands it to postfix), and procmail (puts the mail into folders on your machine)
[01:50] <Efwis> thanks I will
[01:50] <geetergod> Can someone help me with my sound? its pretty complicated
[01:51] <whimsey> does ubuntu have a replacement for apt-file?
[01:52] <geetergod> I have no sound, somethings up with the way i dont have a soundcard enabled or something
[01:52] <nickrud> whimsey, I've heard some people say that apt-file works under ubuntu, but I haven't tested it
[01:53] <Pluton2> sound in ubuntu ppc; ibook G3. default source = Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System'
[01:53] <lickety> hey guys I've got a pretty easy question, the latest apt repository doesn't seem to have a listing for openssl-dev, not even in universe, the standard openssl package doesn't have the dev files included, anyone know what's going on with that?
[01:54] <lickety> pluton2, you probably need either the gstreamer-esd or gstreamer-oss plugin
[01:55] <nickrud> lickety, I think what you want is libssl-dev
[01:55] <Efwis> nickrud, is dovecot better then tbird, and will it connect to firefox properly for links??
[01:55] <Pluton2> lickety: let see.
[01:55] <lickety> I tried that but it's not the same version as openssl
[01:56] <nickrud> Efwis, dovecot creates an imap server. tbird will read from that imap server, so, no problem
[01:57] <Efwis> hmmm, i will look into that a little deeper
[01:57] <learning> hi Milos_85 is running an onjoin guys not sure if you are aware of that or not
[01:58] <nickrud> Efwis, take a look at tbird's account setup, I'm sure there's an option for reading from imap, as an alternative to pop. That's what you point tbird to
[01:58] <geetergod> Can someone help me with my sound?
[01:58] <Pluton2> lickety: yes both are installed.
[01:58] <whimsey> learning: that took care of that ;)
[01:58] <learning> in any case, what are the best options if you will for hdparm cause for some reason my system seems to be laggin lately
[01:58] <Efwis> yeah, there is that in tbird, I've never used IMAP before so it will be soemthign new lol
[01:59] <lickety> Pluton2, gimme a second
[02:00] <nickrud> Efwis, I switch to a local imap server because I like trying new software, I just got tired of exporting a bunch of folders, just to i could import to another client. Once it's set up, you'll never go back
[02:01] <zukalk> brb -- i hope (nickrud, going to try to switch to 686, it'd better work ;) !)
[02:01] <Efwis> i'll give it a try
[02:01] <nickrud> zukalk, ymmv ;P
[02:01] <zukalk> :P
[02:01] <nickrud> zukalk, this is what debian is good at
[02:01] <geetergod> Can someone help me with my sound?
[02:02] <lickety> geetergod are you running esd?
[02:02] <geetergod> i cant
[02:02] <lickety> ok, so what sound system are you using oss or alsa?
[02:02] <geetergod> alsa
[02:03] <geetergod> lickety, believe me, ive had people try 100 things
[02:03] <lickety> have you installed alsa-utils?
[02:03] <geetergod> lickety, its something about the new card i put in last night, even though it worked for a while
[02:03] <geetergod> lickety, no i havnt, sudo apt-get install alsa-utils?
[02:03] <lickety> yeah that will work
[02:04] <lickety> once installed, there's a binary called alsaconf
[02:04] <Efwis> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dovecot/dovecot-pop3d_0.99.13-3_i386.deb
[02:04] <Efwis>   MD5Sum mismatch
[02:04] <geetergod> lickety, says i have the latest version
[02:04] <lickety> ok
[02:04] <geetergod> lickety, where do i get to alsaconf?
[02:05] <lickety> one sec
[02:05] <geetergod> k
[02:05] <zth__> man! my firefox keeps crasching all the time!
[02:06] <pepsi> Efwis, change your repositories to http://archive.ubuntu.com/
[02:06] <pepsi> ie, drop the 'us.'
[02:07] <Efwis> ok
[02:07] <joeinspirit> Question: anyone know a good guide to installing mythtv on ubuntu... a guide fo stupid people that need step by steps?
[02:07] <niran> i'm trying to set up mod_rewrite on apache2
[02:08] <niran> and i have these lines in my httpd.conf
[02:08] <frankie> anyone able to set up an Iomega USB CDR/RW with Ubuntu?
[02:08] <niran> RewriteLog "/var/log/apache2/rewrite.log"
[02:08] <niran> RewriteEngine on
[02:08] <niran> RewriteRule ^/blog?(.*)$ /cgi-bin/pyblosxom.cgi$1 [last]
[02:08] <niran> but... it's not working
[02:08] <niran> any ideas?
[02:10] <geetergod> lickety, i didnt scare you away did i? :)
[02:10] <ilba7r> has the repos changed i always have msum error while installing packages
[02:10] <TylerEaves> Is there a way to install without downloading the full 600MB iso?
[02:11] <frankie> my usb cdrom won't work...  can anyone fix it?
[02:11] <TylerEaves> Like equivland to doing a network debian install?
[02:12] <zukalk> hi again
[02:12] <geargolem> Hi
[02:13] <geargolem> tips for getting nvidia geforce graphics card to work on Hoary?
[02:13] <zukalk> nickrud - 686 is working fine, i just got back to 386 to get ndiswrapper woking on 686
[02:14] <geetergod> Can anyone help me with my sound? or lack of?
[02:15] <geargolem> geetergod, rmb on the sound icon and set the preferences to alsa
[02:15] <nickrud> zukalk, great
[02:15] <geetergod> geargolem,rmb?
[02:15] <geargolem> right mouse button geetergod
[02:16] <zth__> how do i set SDL to use alsa? and when i use aoss on a application it gets really crappy quality
[02:16] <nickrud> zukalk, you missed my last comment before you left, 'this is what debian is good at :)
[02:16] <geetergod> geargolem, theres no sound icon on my taskbar if thats you mean
[02:16] <Efwis> geetergod, are you using gnome or KDE?
[02:16] <geetergod> gnome
[02:16] <zukalk> nickrud, no doubt about that ;)
[02:17] <Efwis> geetergod, try here http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[02:17] <black13> when/were is the TERM variable set during bootup
[02:17] <geetergod> Efwis, ive been through this
[02:18] <Efwis> hmmm
[02:18] <ilba7r> i am trying to install libcairo1_0.3.0-1_i386.deb but getting   MD5Sum mismatch is ther is something wrong with the repos?
[02:18] <nickrud> geetergod, I've kinda been watching for a while.
[02:19] <geetergod> nickrud, yah ive had this problem since last night, its amazing how i miss sound :(
[02:19] <nickrud> geetergod, I'd remove any asound conf files in etc and home, look for any dmix stuff you've done and remove it, and remove your old card
[02:19] <Dilkes> nickrud Hey! I got the lucent winmodem working in Ubuntu Hoary. Thanks
[02:19] <geetergod> nickrud, its weird that it worked for a while till i tried gettin my surround sound to work
[02:20] <nickrud> geetergod, look for info on the chipset that's printed on the biggest chip on your card
[02:20] <nickrud> geetergod, yeah, I saw that :)
[02:20] <nickrud> geetergod, try to start as close to scratch as you can.
[02:21] <nickrud> geetergod, and, it you get sound working at all, alsamixer has the controls for your surround sound
[02:21] <Efwis> still can't get dovecot
[02:22] <black13> bpuccio, i use to know some puccio's
[02:22] <Stew2> nickrud Can I get pon to autodial on demand?
[02:22] <nickrud> Efwis, it's in main, it should be right there
[02:22] <geetergod> nickrud, what if it looks like the soundcard is attatched to something that doesnt look like it should come out?
[02:22] <zth__> how do i set SDL to use alsa? and when i use aoss on a application it gets really crappy quality :(
[02:22] <nickrud> Stew2, I've never used dial on demand, sorry :)
[02:22] <Efwis> the pop3 isn't downloading, getting a midsum5 error
[02:22] <nickrud> Efwis, us.archive?
[02:23] <Efwis> yes
[02:23] <Efwis> and I even removed the us. and still no go
[02:23] <nickrud> geetergod, get your system as close to scratch as you can, then you can start over :)
[02:23] <nickrud> Efwis, archive.ubuntu.com has been working for me
[02:23] <geetergod> ook if u say so :)
[02:24] <nickrud> geetergod, well, I've seen a lot of advice given you, some conflicting, and, to be blunt, your sound system is screwed
[02:24] <Efwis> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dovecot/dovecot-pop3d_0.99.13-3_i386.deb
[02:24] <Efwis>  MD5Sum mismatch
[02:24] <dsl_> how do i unzip via terminal
[02:24] <zth__> how do i enable the zoom thingy in mplayer? to make the fullscreen really fullscreen
[02:24] <Efwis> I get that on both download attempts
[02:24] <quam> Efwis: change the repsitory to archive.ubuntu.com, not us.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:24] <nickrud> Efwis, you still have us archives, you need to apt-get update to have apt read your sources.list again
[02:24] <quam> the us archives are screwed right now
[02:25] <cut0ff> dsl_  sudo unzip e file.zip
[02:25] <LinuxJones> zth__, I think it's mplayer -f.
[02:25] <synd-> cut0ff: thx
[02:25] <Efwis> i did update my repositories, its says the same thing even on archive.ubuntu.com
[02:25] <quam> reload
[02:25] <nickrud> Efwis, you use synaptic?
[02:25] <Efwis> I just did a copy and paste here so you got the message I get, its the same message minus the US.
[02:25] <Efwis> yep
[02:26] <Stew2> nickrud,  either you or someone else mentioned running the update manager in ubuntu after getting the modem to work
[02:26] <quam> click reload
[02:26] <juan_> how can i compare two folders for content? md5sum only seems to work with blockdevices and images?
[02:26] <quam> it should update that stuff and get rid of the errors
[02:26] <zth__> LinuxJones, there's some line I can add in the ~.mplayer/config file, something with zoom
[02:26] <nickrud> Stew2, yeah, that was me, but, in retrospect, it was not necessary.
[02:26] <Efwis> I even ran a second apt-get update just to make sure
[02:26] <LinuxJones> zth__, It's been so long since I used mplayer I can't remember dude. Have you checked the man page :)
[02:27] <nickrud> Stew2, apt can handle the one package from restricted you installed by hand
[02:27] <zth__> found it, it was "zoom = yes"
[02:27] <zth__> :)
[02:27] <zth__> thx anyway
[02:27] <nickrud> Efwis, could you put your sources.list on pastebin.com so I can see them?
[02:27] <Efwis> ok
[02:27] <Efwis> one sec
[02:27] <Stew2> nickrud, It says I have a broken package. It's the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb one I downloaded from the windows partition and installed with 'dpkg -i'
[02:28] <quam> missing some dependencies probably
[02:28] <nickrud> Stew2, sudo apt-get -f install
[02:29] <LinuxJones> zth__, :)
[02:29] <Stew2> nickrud No. It keeps saying, whether it's symantic or apt, that it wants to remove the kernel package I downloaded to add LT WINMODEM support.
[02:29] <dennis_> guys, any advice what program is the best for burning CDs/DVDs on ubuntu?
[02:29] <Stew2> nickrud I don't want to remove the package, it'll remove support for the winmodem, right?
[02:30] <nickrud> Stew2, hm
[02:30] <LinuxJones> juan_, mgdiff or xdiff
[02:30] <LinuxJones> dennis_, I like graveman
[02:30] <juan_> LinuxJones, THANKS
[02:30] <LinuxJones> juan_, ;)
[02:30] <Efwis> nickrud, http://pastebin.com/299180
[02:30] <nickrud> Stew2, gimme a sec to think it through, see what i've missed
[02:30] <Stew2> nickrud : K
[02:31] <HillTop>  I just installed Hoary, had Warty earlier. Made updates with gnome-app-install. How do I get from Firefox 1.0.2 to 1.0.4 so I can use extensions and themes? Thanks
[02:31] <Efwis> havoc, i think I see my problem, I didnt' get them all
[02:31] <nickrud> Efwis, yeah, that's it
[02:31] <duende> Does ubuntu kernels come without bttv support by default?  I'm trying to compile lirc, but it seems to be missing it.  i'm using 2.6.10-5-k7 with image/headers installed
[02:31] <dennis_> LinuxJones, can it burn ISO images?
[02:32] <LinuxJones> dennis_, of course
[02:32] <dennis_> thx
[02:32] <LinuxJones> :)
[02:32] <nickrud> Stew2, you now have you winmodem working, right?
[02:33] <LinuxJones> dennis_, but gnome can do that by simply right clicking the .iso file and burn from there.
[02:33] <dennis_> so graveman is not necessary?
[02:34] <nickrud> Stew2, because, there's two ways to go from here, and if you have modem access, it will be pretty straightforward
[02:34] <LinuxJones> dennis_, not for burning a .iso file no
[02:34] <dennis_> excellent
[02:34] <dennis_> thx
[02:34] <LinuxJones> np
[02:34] <Stew2> nickrud yeah. Basically I booted windows, wrote down the instructions on how to mount the drive-d fat32 partition, downloaded the .deb restricted kernel modules, rebooted into linux, and ran 'dpkg -i linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb'
[02:35] <nickrud> Stew2, and, you were able to get your modem working?
[02:36] <fishie> checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[02:36] <fishie> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[02:36] <fishie> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[02:36] <fishie> No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[02:36] <fishie> how do i do that?
[02:36] <jaysinn> when attempting to install kubuntu I get a message saying unable to fetch all archives, any ideas
[02:37] <nickrud> Stew2, that answer is extremely relevant to any solution I have :)
[02:37] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, what file are you trying to install ?
[02:37] <jaysinn> kubuntu-desktop
[02:38] <Efwis> nickrud, updateing now, getting ready to try again. after I get these, should I revert the sources.list back the way it was?
[02:38] <Stew2> nickrud Oh, I'm sorry. I was adjusting the colors for my eyes on xchat.
[02:38] <nickrud> Efwis, no, not until you hear that that repository is back up
[02:38] <Stew2> nickrud, Yes, I got the modem working. I'm running ubuntu hoary now through the lucent winmodem dialup connection.
[02:38] <nickrud> Stew2, then, great.
[02:39] <Efwis> oh so that repository is down, didnt' know htat
[02:39] <nickrud> Stew2, let synaptic remove that package. The kernel module is loaded, and will not disappear.
[02:39] <nickrud> then, use synaptic to reinstall, and all should be good
[02:40] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list to www.pastebin.ca then post the link it spits out here ?
[02:40] <jaysinn> sure
[02:42] <carlosdelriomore> hello all
[02:42] <LinuxJones> carlosdelriomore, hiya
[02:42] <carlosdelriomore> is HT technology a good thing? it seems as if it is like two CPUs? just asking since i want to get an HT laptop, but is it worth it? is it supported by linux?
[02:43] <Thorrn4> hello all
[02:43] <carlosdelriomore> LinuxJones: hello to you too~
[02:43] <odie5533> How do you get a USB printer working?
[02:43] <jaysinn> LinuxJones, http://pastebin.ca/13990
[02:43] <LinuxJones> carlosdelriomore, afaik it works ok you will need to install the smp kernel once you get Ubuntu installed tho.
[02:43] <Efwis> finally isntalling now
[02:43] <Stew2> nickrud I uncommented all the repositories in sources.list, and I got the following error when starting symantic http://pastebin.com/299186
[02:44] <Stew2> synaptic I meant
[02:44] <carlosdelriomore> LinuxJones: so is it faster? or is it just intel hype?
[02:44] <jaysinn> LinuxJones, sorry i will post the apt source now
[02:44] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, that crappy us.ubuntu mirror is out most of the time
[02:45] <jaysinn> ok thanks i try later
[02:45] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, just edit that file and get rid of the us. part of all your lines in the apt/sources.list file
[02:45] <jaysinn> LinuxJones, here is the source list http://pastebin.ca/13991
[02:45] <stuNNed> carlosdelriomore: have ht cpu here, would prefer athlon
[02:45] <Efwis> nickrud, what do I need to do next, its installed
[02:45] <nickrud> Stew2, you need to reload synaptics understanding of your sources.list, I think, the reload button
[02:46] <carlosdelriomore> stuNNed: your experience says its more hype than anything then?
[02:46] <stuNNed> carlosdelriomore: yes
[02:46] <carlosdelriomore> stuNNed: i see... thanks
[02:46] <stuNNed> carlosdelriomore: for gaming it's terrible imho
[02:47] <odie5533> How do I use my scanner?
[02:47] <Stew2> nickrud okay, it's downloading. thanks
[02:47] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, here is my sources.list file >> http://pastebin.ca/13992
[02:48] <nickrud> Stew2, I'm not sure why it said the package was broken, but, boy am I glad that worked overall :)
[02:48] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, comment out/replace your with mine. then apt-get update && apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:48] <LinuxJones> yours*
[02:48] <nickrud> Efwis, if you'll give me some time, I'll give you some howto's to read
[02:49] <Efwis> np, I can wait
[02:49] <jaysinn> thanks I will try
[02:49] <nickrud> Efwis, but, the thrust will be you will use fetchmail to get the mail off your pop server
[02:50] <Stew2> nickrud, I can remember trying to load ltwinmodem support in fc3 and not getting it at all. the ubuntu guide was fairly easy. My biggest mistake was using ttLMT0 instead of ttLTM0. I think it's still too complicated for tired and vision impared people...
[02:50] <pepsi> Stew2, http://www.xchat.org/files/themes/blacktheme.zip
[02:50] <magoo> hi! where can i find the mplayerplug-in for ubuntu? can't find it in synaptic. this is my first time using ubuntu btw.
[02:50] <Efwis> ok
[02:50] <kanzen> I'll get this box stable yet :)  I was in here asking questions earlier when it crashed.
[02:50] <nickrud> Stew2, if you knew how many times I've requested new glasses on this list ....
[02:50] <LinuxJones> magoo, www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:50] <kanzen> I'm a little confused on something... do evms and mdadm control the same devices?
[02:51] <magoo> LinuxJones: thank you
[02:51] <LinuxJones> magoo, lots of great stuff there have fun :)
[02:51] <nickrud> Efwis, then, you will use a configuration in your home directory called ~/.procmailrc to sort mail into the proper subdirectories under ~/Maildir
[02:51] <magoo> LinuxJones: cool just was i was lookin foor :)
[02:51] <kanzen> if I do an "evms_query disks" I see the devices the disks that I usually handle with mdadm
[02:52] <nickrud> Efwis, then, dovecot will serve the folders in Maildir to your email client
[02:52] <duende> how bad is it when you get "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault"  ?
[02:52] <jaysinn> LinuxJones, I tried still same message, Any other ideas?
[02:52] <Efwis> oh sounds like fun
[02:53] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, did you apt-get update ?
[02:53] <jbalint> Anybody know of a key-sequence to change to a diff desktop on the GNOME?>
[02:53] <pepsi> ctrl-alt-arrow?
[02:53] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, your running hoary or warty ?
[02:54] <jbalint> pepsi: Cool, thanks.
[02:54] <coke> :P
[02:55] <inc595> hey anyone got crystal svg 3.0 icons for gnome?
[02:56] <Stew2> okay I'm going to exit and try the new colors
[02:56] <jaysinn> hoary
[02:56] <jaysinn> Yes I ran the update
[02:56] <ChrisCF> Is it right that "sudo clear >> /etc/motd" should fail?
[02:57] <kvidell> yea
[02:57] <kvidell> you trying to empty the file out?
[02:57] <ChrisCF> No
[02:58] <ChrisCF> Trying to get the (apparently untypeable) control codes for clearing the terminal into the motd, where I can move the text around them
[02:59] <inc595> any one know where to find crystal svg 3.0 icons for gnome? I can only find the kde version
[02:59] <ChrisCF> So, why doesn't it work?
[03:00] <ChrisCF> More importantly, why "shouldn't" it work
[03:00] <inc595> invalid format error
[03:00] <geargolem> can someone please help me get an nvidia graphics card to work on Hoary?
[03:00] <kvidell> because what you're telling it to do there is dump the stdout of the command "clear" in to motd
[03:00] <kvidell> which is.. well.. nothing
[03:01] <ChrisCF> ... which is entirely not what I asked
[03:01] <kvidell> Then phrase it better, because it is :)
[03:01] <ChrisCF> I'm getting "Permission denied"
[03:01] <kvidell> On a V200 it's \[J
[03:02] <ChrisCF> what I've found is the output being something like that, but seemingly untypeable in an editor
[03:02] <ChrisCF> Why, even when using sudo, am I getting "Permission denied"?
[03:02] <joeinspirit> Question: Can anyone recommend a good guide to installing mythtv on ubuntu... a guide fo stupid people that need step by steps?
[03:03] <kvidell> because the command you're trying to run is impossible. It doesn't know what to do so it tells you the first error that sounds good, I guess.
[03:03] <ChrisCF> Wrong.
[03:03] <ChrisCF> Why do you think it's impossible?
[03:04] <kvidell> because clear doesn't have any output? we've been through this
[03:04] <ChrisCF> Try running "clear > foo"
[03:04] <kvidell> clear > foo && cat foo returns ESC[HESC[J
[03:04] <geargolem> How do I configure a kernel for nvidia to install the driver for the card?
[03:04] <kvidell> which isn't real output
[03:04] <kvidell> if you've answers your own question, why are you harassing me about telling you what's obvious?
[03:04] <joeinspirit> geargolem ubuntuguide.org
[03:04] <kvidell> answered*
[03:05] <ChrisCF> It still has the effect of blanking the terminal when it's sent to the terminal
[03:05] <kvidell> That's it's job :-P
[03:05] <ChrisCF> ...
[03:05] <geetergod> im back, who was i talking to?
[03:05] <kvidell> Are you trying to get it so that /etc/motd clears the screen and leaves you with a clean terminal?
[03:05] <joeinspirit> clear is a function of the program that U are using when you "use" the "terminal"
[03:06] <ChrisCF> pretty much - there or /etc/issue
[03:07] <geetergod> Can someone help me with my sound?
[03:07] <ChrisCF> The control codes you get, when you stick them at the start of /etc/issue clear the screen from the last logout, then show the rest of the file as normal.
[03:07] <tyler> How do I keep IDE_GENERIC from loading? It's loading BEFORE my hardware specfic drivers, and preventing me from getting IDE DMA
[03:07] <geetergod> its really complicated and awful and its driving me nuts
[03:07] <joeinspirit> geetergod what is your problem.
[03:07] <joeinspirit> geetergod the short version
[03:07] <ChrisCF> but I can't seem to type the codes I need when using cat or vi, hence just dumping the control codes from "clear" into the file
[03:08] <joeinspirit> ChrisCF syntax issue.
[03:08] <kvidell> try typing Ctrl+V Ctrl+[
[03:08] <ChrisCF> What I want to know is why I can't redirect to a file even with sudo
[03:08] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i have no sound, i did last night, its like i dont have the soundcard enabled anymore
[03:08] <tyler> ChrisCF: Why can't you redirect to a file?
[03:08] <ChrisCF> Permission denied
[03:08] <kvidell> I have it working on a BSD box using a VT100 style terminal
[03:09] <nickrud> Efwis, you still around?
[03:09] <Efwis> yep
[03:09] <tyler> ChrisCF just write to somewhere you can. IE: somecommand > /home/chris/somefile
[03:09] <nickrud> ok, then
[03:09] <kvidell> clear > foo && cat foo clears the screen
[03:09] <joeinspirit> geetergod, well did you do anything between then and now? other then reboot?
[03:09] <geetergod> nickrud, i didnt dare take it out
[03:09] <geetergod> joeinspirit, just messed with the settings trying to get the surround sound to work
[03:09] <tyler> ChrisCF: Or just do what I did and sudo passwd, and just use root when needed ;)_
[03:09] <nickrud> to set up fetchmail, just run fetchmailconf, it's pretty simple. that will get your mail from your pop server
[03:10] <joeinspirit> geetergod, see if alsa is even recognizing your card, go to terminal type alsamixer
[03:10] <nickrud> I've put a section of my ~/.procmailrc at http://pastebin.com/299193
[03:10] <geetergod> joeinspirit, that part works
[03:10] <nickrud> that section, (with the private stuff missing :) is complete
[03:11] <nickrud> for more info on setting up a procmailrc, look at http://userpages.umbc.edu/~ian/procmail.html
[03:11] <geetergod> joeinspirit, but i think its recognizing the old card thats in there
[03:11] <joeinspirit> does it list the correct card?
[03:11] <joeinspirit> ok
[03:11] <joeinspirit> well
[03:11] <joeinspirit> you have to tell alsa to choose the right card
[03:11] <geetergod> joeinspirit, AMP Ltd AUDIO2000, thats the card it lists
[03:11] <joeinspirit> is that the card you want to use?
[03:11] <geetergod> joeinspirit, how?
[03:11] <ChrisCF> tyler, thanks
[03:11] <tyler> ChrisCF: Sure ;)
[03:12] <geetergod> joeinspirit, no its not
[03:12] <dennis_> guys, how do I install gcc if I have ubuntu cd?
[03:12] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i wanna use a Chaintech 7.1 card
[03:12] <weedar> Is there a way to use a passphrase as encryption for a wifi in linux? iwconfig manpage says it doesn't
[03:12] <nickrud> Efwis, it may look complex, but, it's actually simple once you wrap your head around it
[03:12] <Efwis> nickrud, anything else I need to do or will that howto for fetchmail give me all the info?
[03:12] <nickrud> geetergod, sometimes, surgery is the only answer
[03:13] <RastaMahata> http://ter.air0day.com/?script=revengeofthesith
[03:13] <LinuxJones> dennis_, apt-get install build-essential
[03:13] <joeinspirit> geetergod, if you had asked me 6 months ago I could have told you but I forgot. basically you need to check alsa's website. there are instructions. both your cards are in var and you need to remap the sound to the correct card, there is also a alsa config file. sorry I don't really remember the specifics.
[03:13] <geetergod> nickrud, if it worked before with it in there why does it need to go now?
[03:13] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, try apt-get upgrade
[03:13] <dennis_> thanks LinuxJones
[03:13] <joeinspirit> geetergod, also there is a way to tell alsa to manually pick the correct card.
[03:14] <nickrud> Efwis, fetchmail is one of the oldest pieces of free software, it's pretty much solid. fetchmailconf has always set me up nicely, if you can set up email in windows, fetchmailconf is a snap
[03:14] <joeinspirit> geetergod using the alsa player.
[03:14] <geetergod> joeinspirit, how do  you use the alsa player?
[03:14] <Efwis> kewl,  will work on it in a sec, got an idiot in my spyware forum with a nasty rootkit to fix
[03:14] <nickrud> geetergod, that's what I would do, but I'm bloodthirsty :)
[03:14] <LinuxJones> dennis_, there is alot of great info @ www.ubuntuguide.org for new Linux/Ubuntu users
[03:15] <geetergod> nickrud, ide just break somethin
[03:15] <joeinspirit> geetergod, you download it, then in the terminal type alsaplayer, the option to manually pick the card can be found by typing alsaplayer --helpp
[03:15] <nickrud> geetergod, it's already broken, so, maybe joeinspirit can help
[03:15] <Tobes> Having trouble getting sound to play in Quicktime movies. I've been following the instructions from ubuntuguide.org, and I can get video to play without sound, when w32codecs is not installed. When it is installed, I don't get video OR sound. Been testing with the apple.com trailers, using mozilla-mplayer. I've also tried downloading quicktime movies and playing them in VLC, still no sound. I get sound for all other video fo
[03:15] <Tobes> rmats. Any ideas?
[03:16] <joeinspirit> geetergod, what nickrud suggested is a simple option if you don't want to screw with it. IF you want to have both cards then your going to have to learn how it works. and then like me forget a few months later
[03:17] <tyler> Anyone know where us.archive is located? Just curious... I'm getting REALLY good speed off of it
[03:17] <joeinspirit> geetergod is the "other" card that it is using but you don't want it to use, a on-board sound card?
[03:17] <tyler> Tobes: Can you get sound otherwise?
[03:17] <LinuxJones> Tobes, what do you have for Default Sink : Output in gstreamer-properties ?
[03:18] <shen> Can some one help me disable the trackpad on my ibook under hoary?
[03:18] <geetergod> joeinspirit, this is what i get when i type in alsa --help... http://pastebin.com/299195
[03:18] <joeinspirit> geetergod, if so then you can usually disable it in the bios, then alsa  *should have no option but to pick the only card avalible.
[03:18] <Tobes> Tyler: I can get sound for other video and music formats, even flash in Firefox.
[03:18] <joeinspirit> geetergod, its not alsa, its alsaplayer.
[03:18] <tyler> Tobes: Hrrm, weird
[03:18] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i mean alsaplayer
[03:18] <seth_k> tyler: GeoSelect places US archive in Wisconsin
[03:18] <tyler> Tobes: From my expirence VLC can play basically anything without issue
[03:18] <joeinspirit> geetergod what version did you download of alsaplayer?
[03:19] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Not sure.
[03:19] <tyler> seth_k: Intersting... I rarely get these kind of speeds (Currently 480kB/sec) on anyhting out of state
[03:19] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i just did sudo apt-get install aslaplayer
[03:19] <Tobes> tyler: Same, just having issues with quicktime and sound.
[03:19] <seth_k> tyler: not sure how accurate geoselect is
[03:19] <LinuxJones> Tobes, ok hit alt + F2 then type gstreamer (it will auto-complete) then hit enter
[03:19] <joeinspirit> geetergod then try 'man alsaplayer'
[03:20] <geetergod> No manual entry for aslaplayer
[03:20] <joeinspirit> hum, perhaps the package you was complied in some strange way.
[03:21] <geetergod> or it didnt insall right
[03:21] <Tobes> LinuxJones: ESD is my default output.
[03:21] <joeinspirit> but in anycase geetergod, it doesn't do you much good as you know that the both cards work
[03:21] <joeinspirit> so
[03:21] <geetergod> joeinspirit, hop in my computer and fix it :)
[03:21] <joeinspirit> geetergod, is the soundcard a onboard card?
[03:21] <geetergod> joeinspirit, onboard card? i plugged it inside the puter
[03:21] <LinuxJones> Tobes, can you try selecting alsa and then hit test to see if it works
[03:21] <joeinspirit> geetergod, you said you have two cards right?
[03:22] <geetergod> yes
[03:22] <joeinspirit> geetergod is one of them build into the motherboard?
[03:22] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA'.
[03:22] <geetergod> joeinspirit, yes
[03:22] <LinuxJones> Tobes, how about oss ?
[03:22] <joeinspirit> geetergod is that the one you want to be using?
[03:22] <joeinspirit> or the one you put in there?
[03:22] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Same error, for OSS.
[03:22] <geetergod> joeinspirit, no
[03:23] <joeinspirit> geetergod, then a possible sollution is to
[03:23] <geetergod> joeinspirit, the old one is in the motherboard
[03:23] <glDaher> I've ordered the ubuntu cds two months ago, and still nothing in my mailbox, any ideas?
[03:23] <joeinspirit> geetergod, reboot the computer, go into bios and disable the onboard soundcard,
[03:23] <geetergod> joeinspirit, bios by hitting delete key when its restarting?
[03:23] <inc595> anyone how to fix and  audio codec 0x56444152 not found error when playing dvds
[03:23] <joeinspirit> geetergod, consult your motherboard manual.
[03:23] <joeinspirit> geetergod, usually some OEMs like dell make it like f2
[03:24] <LinuxJones> Tobes, argh that's a weird error, re-select esd and try asking again in a few mins. I am too loaded to help any further atm :)
[03:24] <geetergod> joeinspirit, mines Delete key, but where do i go there and what do i do?
[03:24] <geetergod> joeinspirit, tell me and i'll write it down :)
[03:24] <Tobes> LinuxJones: OK, thanks. Will continue poking around for solutions elsewhere.
[03:25] <joeinspirit> geetergod, you will need to figure that out, it depends on what bios software you are using, what brand, etc etc. consult your bios manual. on mine its advanced options, "disable onboard sound card"
[03:25] <geetergod> joeinspirit, ok
[03:25] <LinuxJones> Tobes, what video player are you using ?
[03:25] <inc595> evil dvds
[03:25] <joeinspirit> geetergod, what you are going to do is turn the one off on the motherboard, so your OS only can see one card, the one you installed.
[03:26] <geetergod> ok
[03:26] <joeinspirit> geetergod, you might find yourself of sh*t creek if you have a cheap motherboard and they did not provide you the option of turning it off.
[03:26] <geargolem> no luck with the ubuntuguide.org on the nvidia installation.
[03:26] <joeinspirit> geetergod, if that is the case then you will need to hunt up the instruction for telling alsa which card to use.
[03:27] <geetergod> ok
[03:27] <geetergod> im writtng all this down :)
[03:28] <nickrud> geargolem, I've jumped in a bit late here (smoke break) but why are using ubuntuguide for nvidia instead of the wiki?
[03:28] <joeinspirit> geetergod, i'd be happy to tell you how to do it, but its been months since I have even had to think about alsa, so its all gone from my brain. but its fairly simple.
[03:28] <geetergod> joeinspirit, any last words before i ruin it? :)
[03:28] <geargolem> don't know nickrud.
[03:28] <joeinspirit> geetergod, if all else fails reinsatll ubuntu.
[03:28] <geetergod> joeinspirit, ok, wish me luck :)
[03:28] <joeinspirit> , geetergod, also
[03:28] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Sorry for the delay. I use VLC for offline viewing, mozilla-mplayer for embedded.
[03:29] <geetergod> yes?
[03:29] <joeinspirit> geetergod, if even all that fails. and you can't turn off the onboard card, then what you should perhaps try is taking the "new" card out , install ubuntu, then add the card in.
[03:29] <nickrud> geargolem, then, use http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto , at least you'll get some support if it doesn't work for you
[03:29] <geetergod> joeinspirit, good call, i dont know how to install ubuntu, my brother did it but ok
[03:29] <joeinspirit> geetergod, but your best bet if you can't get the old card deactivated is to look up those directions I've told you, well
[03:29] <geetergod> so i might wait for him if i tdon twork
[03:30] <joeinspirit> reinstalling isn't really neccessary.
[03:30] <joeinspirit> but
[03:30] <joeinspirit> for the noob
[03:30] <joeinspirit> its usally the easiest option
[03:30] <trilluser> question: which boot loader does ubuntu use? and where do I edit it?
[03:30] <geetergod> ok
[03:30] <Ninwa> Hello, I was wondering if you guys think that Ubuntu will run well on a T20 IBM Notebook (755Mhz, 512MB ram) ... I've never had much luck with Linux on notebooks before.
[03:30] <joeinspirit> Mojo_Jojo, grub
[03:30] <geetergod> ok, here i go
[03:30] <nickrud> ah, the old reinstall cuz everything's f*sk'ed up :)
[03:30] <joeinspirit> Mojo_Jojo, you go to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:30] <nickrud> been there
[03:30] <xoz> Mojo_Jojo: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:30] <Mojo_Jojo> awesome, thanks
[03:31] <quam> i dont miss lilo one bit :p
[03:31] <LinuxJones> Tobes, osunds liek a codec problem if everything else is working ok can you try installing gxine and the w32codec packages and tryplaying your files using that ?
[03:31] <geargolem> nickrud, no luck.
[03:31] <mrchicago> hey
[03:31] <mrchicago> i have a prob
[03:32] <Tobes> LinuxJones: I'll look into gxine, but when I install w32codecs, mplayer stops working for Quicktime altogether.
[03:32] <nickrud> geargolem, what video card do you have?
[03:32] <mrchicago> im trying to compile a .gz file
[03:32] <mrchicago> and it gives me this
[03:32] <Tobes> LinuxJones: gxine is already installed.
[03:32] <tsaphah> so, my system hangs during startup at the "Loading ..." prompt before it shows it unloaded the kernel. Is there a way to speed this up?
[03:33] <LinuxJones> Tobes, can you play them from gxine ?
[03:33] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Misread. Will play using gxine.
[03:33] <Tobes> LinuxJones: One moment, let me test.
[03:33] <LinuxJones> :)
[03:33] <randabis> Ninwa: If you're still there, ubuntu should run great on your IBM notebook at those specs. Ubuntu runs reasonably well on my old gateway laptop (450mhz Pentium 3, 224MB RAM)
[03:33] <mrchicago> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[03:33] <mrchicago> See `config.log' for more details.
[03:33] <geargolem> nickrud, e-GeForce FX 5200.  for some reason synaptic won't let me access updates
[03:33] <mrchicago> so what do i do to rip thyself of this issue
[03:33] <mrchicago> so what do i do to rid thyself of this issue
[03:33] <mrchicago> that is
[03:33] <randabis> Ninwa: main concerns would be video and networking
[03:34] <LinuxJones> geargolem, hit the reload button top left first
[03:34] <nickrud> geargolem, I've never used an nvidia, but I've seen lots of people on this list have success with that card
[03:34] <joeinspirit> tsaphah do you mean when it sits and waits for you to pick a os to load?
[03:34] <nickrud> so, what do you mean, 'synaptic won't let me access updates'
[03:34] <Ninwa> randabis, thanks
[03:34] <Ninwa> the network is a pcmia wireless card
[03:34] <Ninwa> how does ubuntu fair with those?
[03:34] <mrchicago> and i have an issue with like dvd stuff too
[03:34] <Shish> Ninwa: try the livecd first?
[03:34] <Tobes> LinuxJones: "Error loading library qtmlClient.dll", when I begin playing a quicktime file. Video, no sound.
[03:34] <geargolem> nickrud, i followed so many orders I think I screwed up my machine
[03:34] <Ninwa> shish, that's probably a good suggestion
[03:34] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Looks like I'm either missing that library, or it's corrupt.
[03:34] <mrchicago> heh
[03:35] <nickrud> geargolem, lol
[03:35] <LinuxJones> Tobes, aha
[03:35] <randabis> Ninwa: depends on the card. It's hit or miss usually with wifi cards. A lot work out of the box, while others require tinkering after the install
[03:35] <nickrud> geargolem, not you, I am not laughing at you
[03:35] <geargolem> nickrud,  I edit xserver-xorg with dri, without, with nv, without....
[03:35] <mrchicago> btw xmame works great
[03:35] <Ninwa> alright, so you would recommend trying it with the livecd first? so no harm done if it doesnt work
[03:35] <mrchicago> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[03:35] <tsaphah> joeinspirit: uh, no :-) After I choose the linux image.  I believe it says: "Loading Ubuntu...", after the hang it unloades the kernel and goes through "normal" boot process
[03:36] <nickrud> geargolem, ok, lets try to start from scratch
[03:36] <mrchicago> any clue what i should do
[03:36] <weedar> I have a router in my LAN, I forgot which IP-adress it uses (not the default) - is there any way I can find it out?
[03:36] <randabis> Ninwa: sure..that would be a good course of action to take for testing purposes
[03:36] <jaysinn> whats the difference between the lice cd and the regular install?
[03:36] <geargolem> ok nickrud
[03:36] <jaysinn> live
[03:36] <nickrud> geargolem, in a terminal, cd /etc/X11
[03:36] <LinuxJones> Tobes, I knew it had to be a codec problem, where did you get the w32codec from Ubuntu or the mplayer site ?
[03:36] <joeinspirit> tsaphah, could be that you just have a large kernel image to load.
[03:36] <Ninwa> jaysinn, livecd downloads all of the install files I imagine.. It's a smaller cd, but you download everything then afterward
[03:36] <geargolem> ok nickrud
[03:36] <tsaphah> jaysinn: live cd runs in ram.. not used for installing.  Use it to test ubuntu
[03:36] <randabis> Ninwa: you could always check the hardware compatibility lists on the ubuntu wiki as well
[03:36] <mrchicago> i thought gcc was already like included
[03:36] <Kanuhas> geargolem, have you tried ubuntuguide.org for your nvidia? It worked for me, gigabyte 6600GT
[03:36] <jaysinn> ok
[03:36] <Ninwa> randabis, Oh! Didnt evne know about that, great suggestion
[03:37] <Ninwa> thank you
[03:37] <nickrud> geargolem, sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.bogus
[03:37] <jaysinn> thanks
[03:37] <Tobes> LinuxJones: It was listed in one of the apt-repositories from UbuntuGuide.org.
[03:37] <tsaphah> joeinspirit: hm, well its just the default.  Guess I could take some time to par it down..
[03:37] <randabis> jaysinn: livecd runs off of the CD, nothing is saved to the hard drive...regular install requires putting data on the hard drive
[03:37] <jaysinn> I see
[03:37] <geargolem> don't confuse me Kanuhas :)   ok, nickrud
[03:37] <LinuxJones> Tobes, that is probably the ones from the Miralat repositories ?
[03:37] <joeinspirit> tsaphah, what type of system , is this some slow box for like routing or something?
[03:38] <randabis> it uses what is called a ramdisk to run off of the RAM without writing to the hard disk
[03:38] <Ninwa> randabis, Thats awesome
[03:38] <Ninwa> my notebook "just works"
[03:38] <nickrud> geargolem, now, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:38] <Ninwa> with one minor tweak
[03:38] <randabis> Ninwa: great :)
[03:38] <geargolem> I'm there, nickrud
[03:38] <geetergod> joeinspirit, u here?
[03:38] <randabis> Ninwa: I'd still advise testing with the livecd first as long as you have some spare time/blank disks
[03:38] <mrchicago> need help
[03:38] <Ninwa> randabis, definitely have those, I intended on it
[03:38] <randabis> up to you though
[03:39] <Ninwa> thanks again :)
[03:39] <tsaphah> joeinspirit: Nope, Centrino 1.4 512 ram.. should do fine.  Its probably only a 35 sec hang, so its still not horrid, just a surprising place to hang compared to the other linux's I've used
[03:39] <jaysinn> LinuxJones, I have ubuntu installed via VMWARE on a WINXP_PRO system.  Could that effect the KUBUNTU install?
[03:39] <joeinspirit> tsaphah, still 35 sec shouldn't happen.
[03:39] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, your running ubuntu from vmware ?
[03:39] <randabis> Ninwa: np, always glad to assist another sheep in joining the flock
[03:39] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i hope i didnt scare u away :)
[03:39] <mrchicago> come on, help ;)
[03:39] <joeinspirit> geetergod, so what happened?
[03:40] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Not sure. I just installed w32codecs, and attempted to play the same video from gxine. It plays without the error message, but I still get video with no sound.
[03:40] <jaysinn> yes
[03:40] <mrchicago> i cant go a day without my dvd stuff
[03:40] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i couldnt figure out which one it was be under so i wrote down what i had...
[03:40] <nickrud> geargolem, restart X (log out, then ctl-alt-backspace) this will give you ubuntu's base config. Then, do  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto I've seen this work so many times ....
[03:40] <Ninwa> randabis, that last bit could've been deemed derogatory, partially.. I'd like to see us as birds instead of sheep :)
[03:40] <tsaphah> joeinspirit: that was my thought.  I'll mess with a few other things than see about getting a custom kernel going.
[03:40] <mrchicago> lol
[03:40] <Shish> mrchicago: you have "build-essential" and all the other relevant tools?
[03:40] <joeinspirit> tsaphah, best bet
[03:40] <dr_willis> Mooo
[03:40] <joeinspirit> tsaphah, is that it is hanging while attempt the intial on something.
[03:40] <LinuxJones> Tobes, that's odd man :(
[03:41] <joeinspirit> tsaphah, try the boot log.
[03:41] <randabis> Ninwa: very true. new birds to the nest then :)
[03:41] <Tobes> Tell me about it.
[03:41] <Ninwa> heh heh :)
[03:41] <geargolem> cross your digits, nickrud
[03:41] <nickrud> geargolem, the only issue you should have after that, is if you have a very old monitor that does not do ddc, and I can help with that
[03:41] <joeinspirit> geetergod, hum did you try going in on each of the options?
[03:41] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, have you booted into Ubuntu ?
[03:41] <tsaphah> joeinspirit: good thought, I'll take a look.
[03:42] <jaysinn> LinuxJones, No, I installed with the ISO file on a vitual machine
[03:42] <joeinspirit> tsaphah, ya since 30 sec is often the top out time for intials for kern 2.6
[03:42] <geetergod> joeinspirit, Softmenu III Setup - Standard CMOS features - Advanced BIOS features - Power Managment features - PNP/PCI Configurations - Integrated Peripherals - PC health status - Set Password - Load optimized defaults - Load failsafe default - Load original values
[03:42] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, that's important, you need to re-start your comp and boot into Ubuntu :)
[03:42] <tsaphah> joeinspirit: didn't know that. Thanks
[03:42] <geetergod> joeinspirit, phew. which one would it be under? :)
[03:43] <jaysinn> how can I with vmware?  restart the vitual machine?
[03:43] <dr_willis> jaysinn,  hit the vitrual reset button? :P
[03:43] <joeinspirit> geetergod, ok these are not going to have it, softmenu III setup, power managment, pc health, set pass, load optimized, load fail, load original.
[03:43] <joeinspirit> geetergod, os
[03:43] <joeinspirit> so
[03:43] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, is this the live cd your running or did you actually install /
[03:44] <jaysinn> I installed
[03:44] <jaysinn> updated with sudo apt-get update
[03:44] <joeinspirit> geetergod, I would say try looking in integrated peripherals, advanced features, pnp/pci, finally standard cmos in that order, and look for anything to do with sound, dont' forget sub menus either.
[03:44] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Going to grab one of the essential packs from the mplayerhq site and try adding the codecs manually.
[03:44] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, re-boot your computer and you will be presented with a choice of which operating system you want to launch ....select Ubuntu
[03:44] <geetergod> ok
[03:45] <LinuxJones> Tobes, perfect
[03:45] <jaysinn> thank you See ya in a sec............................................................
[03:45] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i'll let u know
[03:45] <joeinspirit> geetergod, gl
[03:45] <geetergod> thanks <poof>
[03:46] <nickrud> joeinspirit, if you get his sound working, you are a god :)
[03:47] <joeinspirit> nickrud, ya alsa can be a real screwball. I had the exact same problem though on a system like 6 months ago. at that time I still remembered alsa stuff.
[03:47] <nickrud> joeinspirit, it comes and goes, what you know, doesn't it ;)
[03:47] <geargolem> back, nickrud
[03:47] <joeinspirit> nickrud that is for sure.
[03:47] <geargolem> everything
[03:47] <nickrud> geargolem, everything ok?
[03:48] <geargolem> everything is so large onscreen it makes me feel like I should be shouting
[03:48] <alvanson> spiffy!  I can get ubuntu live CD to run on a Toshiba M30 laptop
[03:48] <nickrud> geargolem, so, let's deal with that first
[03:48] <geargolem> ok, nickrud
[03:48] <alvanson> is there any way to get it to read an NTFS partition or is that maybe not a good idea?
[03:48] <nickrud> geargolem, when you last ran X, was the screen size ok?
[03:48] <geargolem> yep, prior to this time
[03:48] <joeinspirit> alvanson, yes
[03:49] <joeinspirit> alvanson, ubuntuguide.org
[03:49] <nickrud> geargolem, good, it's an easy fix
[03:49] <stibby> are there any pages with the wireless cards ubuntu supports?
[03:49] <alvanson> joeinspirit: thanks
[03:49] <stibby> Linksys WMP11 Wireless-B PCI Card
[03:49] <nickrud> geargolem, open a terminal, then cd /etc/X11
[03:49] <geargolem> computer crack, nickrud ?
[03:49] <stibby> i wonder if ubuntu supports that
[03:49] <JohnnyQuest> how do i install qt multithreading?
[03:49] <seth_k> stibby: the chipset is the important part
[03:49] <geargolem> ok, nickrud
[03:49] <Ninwa> stibby: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:49] <nickrud> geargolem, no, not crack, just cracked :)
[03:49] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Still no dice. :(
[03:49] <Ninwa> stibby: it doesn't support 2.5
[03:50] <Ninwa> but it supports 3
[03:50] <geargolem> lol nickrud
[03:50] <nickrud> geargolem, now, gedit xorg.conf.bogus
[03:50] <LinuxJones> Tobes, argh
[03:50] <stibby> Ninwa: same for kubuntu, correct?
[03:50] <joeinspirit> xorg.conf.bogus, thats creative backing
[03:50] <nickrud> geargolem, sorry, close that
[03:50] <Ninwa> stibby: oh sorry, I don't know. I'm looking at the ubuntu list.
[03:50] <alvanson> okay, is there a reliable NTFS partition resizer?
[03:50] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i went to Integrated Peripherals and saw Audio Device and it was disabled so i enabled it
[03:50] <nickrud> i've done a lot of bogus things on my machine, it comes natural :)
[03:51] <geargolem> ok. nickrud, closed
[03:51] <joeinspirit> alvanson, I would suggest you don't do that, if you are all concerned about the information, then try partition magic.
[03:51] <wc_nix> anybody else here using the amd64 build of Ubuntu 5.04
[03:51] <wc_nix> ??
[03:51] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i didnt check the other ones cause i had my hopes up about this one
[03:51] <nickrud> geargolem, sudo gedit xorg.conf xorg.conf.bogus
[03:51] <nickrud> geargolem, that will open two tabs in gedit
[03:51] <joeinspirit> alvanson, the problem is any linux or opensource program for doing that, is backwards engineered as microsoft hasn't relased the ntfs code
[03:51] <dr_willis> wc_nix,  i was.. then went back to the 32 bit ersion
[03:52] <wc_nix> did you have problems?
[03:52] <wc_nix> which caused you to revert back to 32 bit/
[03:52] <randabis> alvanson: I think Gparted or qtparted can resize NTFS.
[03:52] <geargolem> as you said, nickrud
[03:52] <alvanson> okay
[03:52] <dr_willis> wc_nix,  yes.. and no. :P of course there were reasons i went back.
[03:52] <joeinspirit> geetergod, hum
[03:52] <alvanson> thanks guys
[03:52] <randabis> alvanson: there's also a program you can download to a floppy disk called BootITNG that can do it
[03:52] <wc_nix> because I'm currently using the amd64 version and it's giving me problems compiling and configuring and installing
[03:52] <wc_nix> what were the reasons why you went back?
[03:52] <dr_willis> wc_nix,  depends on what you are doing.. my problems may not bother you.   Ive had no problems with compiling and configuring/installing.
[03:52] <joeinspirit> geetergod. let me try spoofing around and see if I can remember some stuff. are you in linux now
[03:52] <geetergod> joeinspirit, should i try plugging speakers into old soundcard?
[03:52] <stibby> could someone recommend to me a 102.11b wireless PCI card that is very well supported by Ubuntu?
[03:52] <JohnnyQuest> how do i install qt multithreading?
[03:53] <joeinspirit> geetergod, is your sound working now?
[03:53] <nickrud> geargolem, now, if you compare the two tabs, bogus should have a section monitor that has lines like HorizSync and VertRefresh, and xorg.conf will not
[03:53] <wc_nix> wonder why mine is giving me problems then dr_willis
[03:53] <geetergod> joeinspirit, no its not, and yes, im on ubuntu
[03:53] <dr_willis> wc_nix,  flash dident work.. cedega/wine had issues.. a few other little programs dident like 64bit.
[03:53] <Tobes> Stibby: There's always ndiswrapper.
[03:53] <geargolem> thats right, nickrud
[03:53] <joeinspirit> geetergod, if all you is sound try plugin the speakers into the other card yes
[03:53] <randabis> stibby: best bet would be to check the hardware lists on the ubuntu wiki
[03:53] <wc_nix> i cant even get a single app to compile
[03:53] <wc_nix> :-(
[03:53] <nickrud> geargolem, so, copy the missing lines from xorg.conf from bogus
[03:53] <JohnnyQuest> anyone in here use ubuntu?
[03:54] <Tobes> Nope.  Long live windows!
[03:54] <dr_willis> JohnnyQuest,  whats that? :P
[03:54] <JohnnyQuest> lol
[03:54] <randabis> uh probably
[03:54] <wc_nix> JohnnyQuest, what is the channel you are in?
[03:54] <LinuxJones> haha
[03:54] <JohnnyQuest> finally someone ansewrs me!!
[03:54] <wc_nix> #ubuntu
[03:54] <randabis> kubuntu here
[03:54] <JohnnyQuest> now back to my question
[03:54] <nickrud> *into xorg.conf from xorg.cong.bogus
[03:54] <wc_nix> lmao
[03:54] <JohnnyQuest> how do i install qt multithreading?
[03:54] <geargolem> seems clear so far, nickrud
[03:54] <wc_nix> kubuntu?
[03:54] <JohnnyQuest> it got peoples attention
[03:54] <randabis> yep
[03:54] <randabis> kubuntu brought balance to the force
[03:54] <nickrud> geargolem, ok save xorg.conf, and restart X, you should have a good looking screen
[03:54] <geargolem> here goes, nickrud
[03:55] <wc_nix> sweet, a KDE version of Ubuntu
[03:55] <wc_nix> :-)
[03:55] <LinuxJones> JohnnyQuest, what is that ?
[03:55] <dr_willis> wc_nix,  or a Ubuntu vershiin of KDE> :P
[03:55] <Tobes> Meh, I still use traditional Ubuntu. I like GNOME. :)
[03:55] <joeinspirit> \dump grep | joeinpirit >> mysql1.ddb .. highlight -RGB blue
[03:56] <wirjo> can anyone teach me how to use Cron and schedule tasks?
[03:56] <joeinspirit> sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop, then you can have both.
[03:56] <wc_nix> i think i may go to the x86 version of Ubuntu
[03:56] <wc_nix> this amd64 one doesnt like me too much
[03:56] <geetergod> joeinspirit, its plugged into the old card now and i heard the speakers beep when i rebooted but they're not working now
[03:56] <randabis> Tobes: some people like milk, others like milkshakes
[03:56] <conner> wirjo, what are you trying to do with cron?
[03:56] <dr_willis> wc_nix,  yea  its a work in progress
[03:57] <LinuxJones> wirjo, install gcron
[03:57] <wirjo> gcron? what's that do?
[03:57] <Tobes> randabis: Nice analogy. X3
[03:57] <geargolem> looks pretty good, nickrud
[03:57] <jaysinn> Has anyone ran KUBUNTU on a VMWARE virtual computer running XP-Pro?  Can not get KUBUNTU installed?
[03:57] <randabis> hehe
[03:57] <joeinspirit> geeter, hum. well
[03:57] <nickrud> geargolem, ok, now, in a terminal, glxinfo | grep direct
[03:57] <Shish> gtk cron, I assume
[03:57] <LinuxJones> wirjo, it's a graphical cron utility so you don't have to learn the command line :)
[03:57] <wirjo> LinuxJones, ok - i will try that.
[03:57] <randabis> I think milk vs. orange juice might be better in terms of what you like to drink for breakfast...I digress
[03:57] <wc_nix> M$ Winblows
[03:57] <joeinspirit> geetergod, disable that sound card in bios again. try pluggin speakers back into new card.
[03:58] <joeinspirit> rebot
[03:58] <wc_nix> i hope when Apple goes to x86 that they kill M$
[03:58] <geetergod> joeinspirit...
[03:58] <LinuxJones> wirjo, but the command line still is # 1 !!
[03:58] <joeinspirit> geetergod, then turn off the system. remove the new card, and reboot. run alsamixer, then see what it says
[03:58] <randabis> I don't mess with VMWare...I'm native linux
[03:58] <nickrud> geargolem, there'll be a line that yes, or now
[03:58] <geetergod> joeinspirit, now under Volume control i have a ton of things to choose
[03:58] <nickrud> geargolem, there'll be a line that yes, or no
[03:58] <Tobes> randabis: Maybe, but with milk vs milkshakes, you can talk about milkshakes having more calories... Or something.
[03:58] <wc_nix> gtg, gonna reformat and put the x86 version of Ubuntu on this shiz
[03:58] <randabis> Tobes: hmm true
[03:58] <randabis> didn't think of that
[03:58] <joeinspirit> geetergod, well are you sure it's not just muted?
[03:59] <LinuxJones> wc_nix, it will be a non-issue since apple will only support a small footprint of hardware
[03:59] <wirjo> LinuxJones - where I can get this gcron?
[03:59] <geetergod> joeinspirit, under Change Device in volume control i have a few to choose from now
[03:59] <geargolem> extension "GLX" missing, nickrud
[03:59] <jaysinn> What s GCRON?
[03:59] <joeinspirit> which card does alsamixer say its running?
[03:59] <joeinspirit> geetergod ^
[03:59] <wirjo> LinuxJones - I also wouldn't mind learning the command line...
[03:59] <LinuxJones> wirjo, you can install it using apt-get or synaptic
[04:00] <nickrud> geargolem, that's not what I asked for, but ...
[04:00] <randabis> LinuxJones: yeah x86 MacOS is going to have measures to prevent it from being used generically :/
[04:00] <wirjo> LinuxJones - just doing "sudo apt-get install gcron"?
[04:00] <Shish> jaysinn: gtk cron frontend
[04:00] <nickrud> geargolem, do that wiki page, and, if you do it exactly, you should be ok
[04:00] <geargolem> nickrud, believe me when I say it doesn
[04:00] <geargolem> 't say yes or no
[04:00] <nickrud> geargolem, you said a 5200?
[04:00] <geetergod> joeinspirt, AMP Ltd AUDIO 2000 and SiS SI7012
[04:00] <geargolem> nickrud, yes
[04:00] <jaysinn>  window manger front end
[04:00] <joeinspirit> geetergod, hum and what card is the one you installed?
[04:01] <wirjo> ok - i got gcrontab
[04:01] <joeinspirit> sis sounds like a onboard card unless the card you bought was a cheap thing.
[04:01] <geetergod> joeinspirit the new card is a Chaintech 7.1
[04:01] <joeinspirit> geetergod well alsa is definatly using the onboard one noe.
[04:01] <nickrud> geargolem, from this starting point, it should. If it doesn't, and *you walk through that wiki exactly* you have found a real but
[04:01] <geetergod> joeinspirit, should i plug speakers in new card and try SiS?
[04:01] <joeinspirit> geetergod, just a second.
[04:01] <joeinspirit> ya
[04:01] <nickrud> s/but/bug
[04:01] <joeinspirit> sure
[04:01] <geetergod> joeinspirit, k
[04:02] <LinuxJones> wirjo, gcrontab is in the universe repository you need to have that enabled before you can install it
[04:02] <magoo> hey! im having problems installing/retrieving libgii0 and libggi2 saying md5s not correct. followed the ubuntoguide.org on adding repositories. any ideas howto fix this?
[04:02] <jaysinn> I have been a Windows guy for 6 years.  UBUNTU is the best flavor of LINUX I personally have used:::::::::::::
[04:03] <LinuxJones> randabis, apple are not stupid and will continue doing what they have been doing for the past for 20 years...they are a hardware company after all :)
[04:03] <geargolem> nickrud, I followed the wiki, not much to it.  how do I test my card?
[04:03] <randabis> LinuxJones: yeah I realize that. I'm not knocking them for it at all :)
[04:03] <geargolem> nickrud, glxgears doesn't work or synaptic
[04:04] <randabis> LinuxJones: I wish they would have chosen AMD though :(
[04:04] <nickrud> geargolem, you must do the wike now, after we did the changes i walked you through.
[04:04] <LinuxJones> randabis, I wish them luck also, their systems don't fill mine with spam :)
[04:04] <joeinspirit> geetergod, any luck
[04:04] <randabis> LinuxJones: Indeed. :)
[04:04] <geetergod> Joeinspirit, when i try to play a song in xmms i still get "Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly - You have the correct plugin selected - No other program is blocking the soundcard
[04:04] <geargolem> yes, nickrud  i did do the wiki
[04:05] <nickrud> geargolem, just now?
[04:05] <geetergod> joeinspirit, it said that before too
[04:05] <randabis> Putting intel processors in the apples makes me less inclined to purchase one though :/
[04:05] <geargolem> yes nickrud
[04:05] <geetergod> joeinspirit, the speakers work cause when i unplug them and touch the end i can hear them humm
[04:05] <nickrud> geargolem, then, you have a bug, and you need to file it
[04:05] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Thanks for all the help, but I think I'm going to get QT sound support on hold, relax, and watch a little TV. Adios.
[04:05] <kvidell> geetergod: in a terminal, type "lsof | grep dsp"
[04:05] <LinuxJones> randabis, well amd need to build more infrastructure and guarantee large volume orders
[04:05] <kvidell> what's the reply?
[04:05] <LinuxJones> Tobes, GL :)
[04:05] <kvidell> (ignore any permission errors)
[04:06] <geetergod> kvidell, no reply
[04:06] <geargolem> ok nickrud
[04:06] <nickrud> geargolem, if you have truly redone dpkg-reconfigure, changed the monitor resolution, then done the wiki exactly, there is something else wrong, and that is a bug
[04:06] <randabis> LinuxJones: Very true. In terms of technology they do produce superior hardware though. :)
[04:07] <geargolem> nickrud, thanks for trying.  could the error I get for synaptic be part of it?
[04:07] <joeinspirit> geetergod, try lsmod
[04:07] <nickrud> geargolem, yeah, what is that error from synaptic
[04:07] <LinuxJones> randabis, I wouldn't run anything else :)
[04:07] <geetergod> joeinspirit, want me to pastebin it for u?
[04:07] <joeinspirit> geetergod, look for snd
[04:07] <joeinspirit> geetergod, no, just what is it running for the main snd entry.
[04:07] <randabis> LinuxJones: good man. :)
[04:08] <geargolem> nickrud, unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file
[04:08] <geetergod> joeinspirit, theres a lot of snd entries
[04:08] <nickrud> geargolem, you are trying to start synapic the wrong way, I would guess. Just use system->admin->synaptic
[04:09] <joeinspirit> geetergod, so is the onboard card now disabled?
[04:09] <joeinspirit> or is it still enabled?
[04:09] <geargolem> nah, same error, nickrud
[04:09] <geargolem> thanks for the help nickrud
[04:09] <nickrud> heh
[04:09] <wirjo> I use Nvidia-settings color correction, but everytime I log out, I need to first run nvidia-settings in order to apply the color-correction, is there anyway I can autostart this?
[04:09] <geetergod> joeinspirit, its still enabled i believe
[04:09] <geetergod> joeinspirit, in BIOS you mean?
[04:10] <joeinspirit> well lets get you back at least to where you were before, yes in bios disabled the onboard snd card.
[04:10] <geargolem> nickrud glxgears or other 3d apps won't work
[04:10] <joeinspirit> geargolem whats the error? and what v-card type?
[04:11] <nickrud> geargolem, if system->admin->synaptic gives you that error, you have something extremely wrong with your install
[04:11] <geetergod> joeinspirit, disable the audio device in Integrated Peripherals?
[04:11] <joeinspirit> geetergod, yes that will get you back to where you were before.
[04:11] <geetergod> ok
[04:11] <geargolem> nickrud can I reinstall and keep my files somehow?
[04:11] <nickrud> in fact, I can't even imaginw what would keep synaptic running from that menu
[04:12] <geargolem> nickrud, tried KDE on Hoary and messed it up somehow
[04:12] <nickrud> geargolem, kde would have no impact (that I can imagine) on gnome's calling of gksudo synaptic
[04:13] <geargolem> dammit
[04:14] <nickrud> geargolem, what in the hell have you done :)
[04:14] <Linforcer> what up people?
[04:14] <LinuxJones> Linforcer, hi
[04:14] <geargolem> nickrud, people think I know more about linux than I do :)
[04:14] <Linforcer> yo
[04:14] <nickrud> geargolem, lol
[04:14] <Linforcer> can y'all tell what ya think of this? http://img10.echo.cx/img10/4121/root0zx.swf
[04:14] <Linforcer> (dont worry it's a drawing not a whole movie
[04:14] <Linforcer> )
[04:15] <nickrud> geargolem, that is an occupational hazard of long time users
[04:15] <LinuxJones> wirjo, yo
[04:15] <geargolem> nickrud can I reinstall Hoary and keep my personal files?
[04:15] <wirjo> hey LinuxJones
[04:15] <wirjo> i still cant get the cron thing running
[04:15] <LinuxJones> wirjo, hi
[04:15] <nickrud> geargolem, if you made home a separate partition, yes
[04:16] <nickrud> geargolem, if not, well, I'd back up home somewhere (cd?) and try again
[04:16] <LinuxJones> wirjo, you probably need to run it using sudo ie... sudo gcron (enter your users password)
[04:16] <squinn> I've so gotta stick with Ubuntu.
[04:16] <joeinspirit> geetergod, what does alsamixer say now.
[04:16] <squinn> It's a PITA to install, but after that, smooth sailing.
[04:16] <wirjo> say I wanna run azureus... dont i just put /usr/bin/azureus in the last column?
[04:17] <geargolem> nickrud, how do I reinstall Hoary?
[04:17] <kvidell> squinn: how is it difficult to install for you?
[04:17] <geetergod> joeinspirit.... i see under PNP/PCI Config. theres a Plug and Play aware O/S and it says "no" should it say yes?
[04:17] <Linforcer> squinn: try installing gentoo.. (not that that's difficult.. but ubuntu is a breeze compared to it)
[04:17] <squinn> well, kvidell, on a whole i'd say it's not
[04:17] <squinn> Linforcer, I'm in Gentoo.
[04:17] <joeinspirit> geetergod, probablly won't matter, usually saying no is good.
[04:17] <LinuxJones> wirjo, type whereis azureus to be sure of where it is. Sometimes apps get installe din different places.
[04:17] <nickrud> geargolem, you have an install cd, I would assume. Now, if I could sit at your machine, I'd make a stab at fixing it, but ...
[04:18] <Linforcer> squinn: then how's ubuntu hard? >.>
[04:18] <geetergod> joeinspirit, still AMP Ltd AUDIO2000
[04:18] <wirjo> azureus is installed in the right dir
[04:18] <squinn> well, i've got gentoo's install down pat
[04:18] <joeinspirit> geetergod, ok let's get medevil.
[04:18] <herbalcomrad> has anyone found a repository for enlightenment DR17?
[04:18] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i never checked what it was when i had the card enabled
[04:18] <squinn> i run a stage3, so i just partition, install system, install kernel, install bootloader
[04:18] <geetergod> joeinspirit, yes please do
[04:18] <joeinspirit> geetergod go to terminal
[04:18] <kvidell> If you're used to one kind of install, the Debian installer can seem a little strange.
[04:18] <Linforcer> squinn: yeah I guess it's what yer used to :P
[04:18] <squinn> with ubuntu, the INSTALL itself is easy
[04:18] <squinn> but
[04:18] <joeinspirit> geetergod, type, cat /proc/asound/cards
[04:18] <geetergod> joeinspirit, im scared, should i be? :)
[04:18] <squinn> only warty has prism2usb built in kernel -- the p2usb that will talk to my card
[04:19] <nickrud> geargolem, by any chance, have you logged into gnome as root?
[04:19] <squinn> so i've gotta install warty, change all sources to hoary and update
[04:19] <geargolem> nickrud, I only want to save my blender files
[04:19] <geetergod> joeinspirit, 0 [AUDIO2000      ] : ICE1724 - AMP Ltd AUDIO2000
[04:19] <geetergod>                      AMP Ltd AUDIO2000 at 0xd800, irq 16
[04:19] <geetergod> \
[04:19] <joeinspirit> geetergod no only a little.
[04:19] <geargolem> nickrud, I aint that new
[04:19] <phillip_> how do i fix the us.archives repos?
[04:19] <nickrud> geargolem, sorry
[04:19] <herbalcomrad> hmm i take that as a no
[04:19] <joeinspirit> hum.. and you say that you've disabled the onboard? geetergod
[04:19] <geargolem> nickrud, lol
[04:19] <synd-> how do i fix the us.archives repos?
[04:19] <Linforcer> squinn: yeah that a bitch.. it's things like that that are the reason I'm in the middle of a gentoo install
[04:19] <geetergod> joeinspirit, yes, should i check again?
[04:19] <nickrud> geargolem, it was my last stab at a distance :)
[04:20] <Linforcer> I plan to stop using ubuntu when I've got a good gentoo running
[04:20] <joeinspirit> well, did you exit and save? or exit and loose all changes?
[04:20] <geetergod> joeinspirit, whats the onboard LAN?
[04:20] <squinn> Linforcer, but Ubuntu gives me stability and freshness. Best NEW files with most stability.
[04:20] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i saw that in there too
[04:20] <joeinspirit> geetergod, its your built in network card
[04:20] <LinuxJones> phillip_, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and remove the us. part from all of the lines that aren't commented out.
[04:20] <wirjo> LinuxJones - I've checked Azureus' directory and it still wont run...
[04:20] <Linforcer> squinn: Gentoo is unstable?
[04:20] <Octane> any repos that yall recommend other than universe and the rest of the stock ones?
[04:20] <geargolem> nickrud, just tell me this, how do i copy a folder to $mnt/hd2 and reinstall Hoary?
[04:20] <wirjo> LinuxJones - does the Cron thing start right away or do I have to wait a few minutes?
[04:20] <joeinspirit> ok
[04:20] <squinn> Linforcer, not necessarily.
[04:21] <nickrud> geargolem, you have an extra partition available, eh?
[04:21] <squinn> Linforcer, you've got to set package keywords to ~x86, which means unstable
[04:21] <LinuxJones> wirjo, cron will schedule the starting event when you tell it
[04:21] <geargolem> nickrud, yes
[04:21] <squinn> Linforcer, and those are UNSTABLE [aka Breezy]  packages
[04:21] <joeinspirit> geetergod, let me install alsaplayer
[04:21] <geetergod> joeinspirit ok
[04:21] <geetergod> joeinspirit, im not even sure i did
[04:21] <wirjo> LinuxJones - I've done 22 12 * * * /usr/bin/azureus - but its not running...
[04:22] <Linforcer> squinn: ah. I see. maybe you should try arch linux.
[04:22] <geetergod> joeinspirit, or must i already have it?
[04:22] <Ninwa> hello again
[04:22] <Linforcer> squinn: assuming you're not running an AMD64 somewhere
[04:22] <geargolem> $sudo cp /folder/location /new/destination?
[04:22] <Ninwa> I discovered that my wireless card actually doesn't "just work", but I've heard about ndiswrapper, will that work with ubuntu and are there any guides to setting it up?
[04:23] <nickrud> geargolem, just save anything you want to /mnt/hd2, then reinstall. It's not the best solution, but it's one I have used in the past
[04:23] <joeinspirit> geetergod, well I can't get it off apt-get, the repos for it must be donw.
[04:23] <geetergod> ok
[04:23] <geargolem> ok, nickrud thanks.  just to be sure set bios to cdrom for reinstall?
[04:23] <Ninwa> found it in the wiki, nevermind e
[04:23] <Ninwa> me
[04:24] <nickrud> geargolem, silly question, you know that answer :)
[04:24] <geargolem> nickrud, just checkin. :op  thanks, man.
[04:24] <Hackmo> When is the release date for breezy?
[04:24] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i feel that we're gettin close, even if i can just get my old soundcard workin ide be happy
[04:24] <joeinspirit> geetergod, try this chmod -R a+rwX /dev/snd/..
[04:24] <nickrud> geargolem, bol, and remember, it's only software, you can always kill it :)
[04:25] <kvidell> Hackmo: around October 6thish
[04:25] <geetergod> chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/snd/': Operation not permitted
[04:25] <geetergod> chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/snd/pcmC0D0c': Operation not permitted
[04:25] <geetergod> chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p': Operation not permitted
[04:25] <geetergod> chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/snd/pcmC0D1p': Operation not permitted
[04:25] <geetergod> chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/snd/timer': Operation not permitted
[04:25] <geetergod> chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/snd/controlC0': Operation not permitted
[04:25] <geargolem> lol, nickrud hardware crumbles pretty easily too
[04:25] <KarlosII> les
[04:25] <Ninwa> does anybody know if the packages ndiswrapper-util is provided with the install cd? the wiki says to open package manager but I want to be assured that it will be there before I wipe this machine and install ubuntu
[04:25] <nickrud> geargolem, no, the hardware is always there, the software just sucks if the hardware is closed