[16:05] <widad> Ampelbein, but when it failed
[16:06] <whoever> widad: why not try openjvm
[16:06] <widad> Ampelbein, i tried different things
[16:06] <daftykins> _ds__: ok, what do you get from 'nslookup google.com' ? you can use pastebin to show me the output
[16:06] <widad> ok just wait until the upgrade is finished
[16:06] <widad> whoever, ok just wait until the upgrade is finished
[16:06] <whoever> widad: ok,
[16:07] <Suhas> MrElg: actually, it initially runs but later it hangs and does n't respond!
[16:09] <TheMadMechanic> I need a bit of help, I have Ubuntu installed. Using that I encrypted an external drive. Now I want to install Arch but I'm not sure if there are any files I need to backup so I can continue to use my encrypted drive. I used Gnome Disk Utility to format and encrypt it originally
[16:09] <_ds__> daftykins: connection timed out ;  no serves could be reached
[16:09] <everald> Screen resolution has messed up when I started some video player, and I can't set it back using the screen settings tool, or disper. Any idea? Unplugging/replugging monitor hasn't helped either.
[16:10] <Cua> which video player, everald?
[16:11] <everald> I'm not sure. I think it was started when I accidentally double clicked on a .vob file.
[16:11] <everald> Which would be "Movie Player"
[16:12] <Cua> so,  a few questions, how 'messed up' (lower res?), video started in fullscreen mode or not? did the screen blink?
[16:12] <faLUCE> hello. how can I enable hdmi audio on a cedar trail mobo with (l)ubuntu 12.04 ? I can see the HDMI device with aplay -l but I don't see it with alsamixer
[16:12] <Cua> faLUCE: press F6, select device
[16:13] <daftykins> _ds__: ok sounds easy
[16:13] <everald> Cua: I hit cancel orsomething immediately, and it seemed like the program crashed because of this; at the same time, still in X, the resolution dropped down to 1024x768. And that's the highest entry in the monitor menu now, too.
[16:13] <faLUCE> Cua: already done, I don't see it
[16:13] <Cua> faLUCE: how many devices are there?
[16:13] <_ds___> daftykins: What does that mean ? I mean, what could be the problem /
[16:13] <Cua> everald: oh, that is weird, which video card are you using?
[16:14] <jnst> Anyone here have experience with gaming using Xen VMs with GPU passthrough?
[16:14] <daftykins> _ds___: basically your system has no DNS servers set, so it doesn't know how to translate domains into IP addresses. you've restarted since i take it?
[16:14] <faLUCE> Cua: on alsamixer I see the default device and intel hda
[16:14] <daftykins> _ds___: i just want to rule out that it's not going to fix itself on reboot
[16:14] <everald> Cua: how do I find out? It's not Nvidia.
[16:14] <_ds___> daftykins: I too rule that out sire
[16:15] <Cua> faLUCE: hmm, normally I use pulseaudio settings for that
[16:15] <_ds___> daftykins: Anyway to reset all network settings ?
[16:15] <Cua> everald: lspci ?
[16:15] <faLUCE> Cua: what should I do?
[16:16] <daftykins> _ds___: just put a DNS server into /etc/resolv.conf -
[16:16]  * Cua needs a bit of memory check, haven'd use HDMI for a while, back then it was 'just work'
[16:17] <everald> Cua: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller
[16:17] <_ds___> daftykins: I use automatic DNS in windows. So what DNS server you suggest I should add to /resolv.conf ?
[16:17] <_ds___> daftykins: Sorry for noob questions
[16:17] <Cua> everald: it should have no problem with playing video :-/ can you try that with vlc?
[16:18] <daftykins> _ds___: nothing noob about it! you could point it to your router's IP address to try.
[16:18] <_ds___> ok
[16:18] <daftykins> _ds___: e.g. 192.168.x.x
[16:18] <_ds___> daftykins: trying that
[16:18] <daftykins> _ds___: so the line would read "nameserver x.x.x.x"
[16:18] <_ds___> daftykins: sure
[16:18] <everald> Cua: playing video works fine. This doesn't always happen. It's just that the resolution is low now. I guess I have to reboot, no other way to fix.
[16:19] <Cua> everald: maybe a relog?
[16:19] <Cua> log out, log in
[16:19] <daftykins> _ds___: once one is in and saved, do 'nslookup google.com' again and you should get a big block of IPs returned as a result
[16:19] <_ds___> daftykins: Ok, doing it.
[16:20] <inclusa> ]]/j debian
[16:20] <Semen_Dickman> Yo which is better windows 8 or ubuntu
[16:21] <daftykins> !better
[16:21] <Semen_Dickman> please tell me please
[16:21] <daftykins> ops.
[16:22] <S_J> How do I get the path of a program?
[16:22] <bekks> S_J: "which program"
[16:24] <pranjal710> ops
[16:24] <S_J> bekks: any? like I can start ghci from the shell, can I do something like get_path ghci?
[16:24] <bazhang> pranjal710, whats the problem
[16:25] <bekks> S_J: "which ghci"
[16:26] <S_J> bekks: :) first thought you asked :)
[16:27] <S_J> where does apt-get store emacs-modes on ubuntu?
[16:32] <karab44> hello
[16:32] <overdub> S_J, apt-cache search emacs | grep -i mode
[16:33] <karab44> hello
[16:34] <karab44> my ubuntu server eats 25% CPU idle
[16:34] <jrib> karab44: what process?
[16:34] <overdub> karab44, what does top show?
[16:35] <karab44> syslog 192%
[16:35] <karab44> what does it mean?
[16:35] <jrib> karab44: have you checked your logs?
[16:35] <karab44> where can find them?
[16:36] <dustinspringman> anyone been successful in getting the HDMI (not the mini using a converter, but the actual HDMI port) on a Dell laptop using Optimus functioning properly? I've tried bumblebee to no avail... Using the Mini-to-Full HDMI works, but its lame.. Just curious..
[16:38] <karab44> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000084/
[16:38] <karab44> linux server lives since 5 minutes
[16:39] <S_J> overdub: ty but I need the path to itto put that in my .emacs file
[16:40] <karab44> there is nothing suspicious in /var/log location the size of logs does not change
[16:40] <karab44> where to search for more logs
[16:40] <karab44> ?
[16:42] <karab44> what is rsyslogd
[16:43] <grimeton> karab44: man rsyslogd
[16:44] <forsaquarii_> Is there any change that the Ubuntu Edge crowd funding time might be extended?
[16:44] <daftykins> forsaquarii_: nobody here officially answers such questions, however #ubuntu-touch is the channel for such talk
[16:44] <karab44> grimeton: thank you bro. Anytime I come here there is somebody who think he helps :)
[16:46] <_ds__> I am installing a package from this - http://labs.lazlo.de/trac/labs/wiki/GuideWritingUnitTestsInCUsingCppUTest
[16:46] <_ds__> But getting an error
[16:46] <_ds__> Can anybody help ?
[16:46] <_ds__> the error is - make file not found
[16:46] <bekks> !details | _ds__
[16:47] <_ds__> ubottu: Sure sir
[16:48] <DJones> [DS]Matej: Any reason you're installing from source? That app looks to be in the ubuntu repositories, "sudo apt-get install cpputest" should install it for you
[16:48] <zykotick9> _ds__: ahh if make isn't found, i'd suggest you start by installing the build-essential package
[16:49] <_ds__> I have a problem with installing a package, I am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS, When I try to run this command "cd ~/src/CppUTest/; make", it says make file not found
[16:49] <_ds__> zykotic9: Command for it sir ? I am noob in linux
[16:49] <DJones> _ds__: Ignore my comment then, its in Quantal, but not 12.04
[16:49] <_ds__> DJones: ok
[16:49] <zykotick9> _ds__: "sudo apt-get install buld-essential" is one method...
[16:50] <_ds__> zykotic9: I guessed it right. I tried that command and it didn't work
[16:50] <_ds__> I installed form the command given at the page I gave link of
[16:51] <_ds__> zykotic9: sudo apt-get install -y g++ build-essential
[16:51] <DarthExpeditor> OK, So I have a fun one. I am trying to install ruby and it is missing dependancies but when I try to install the deps it is missing ruby
[16:51] <zykotick9> _ds__: sorry i guess you're getting "make file not found", i guess you have make then.  well best of luck.
[16:52] <_ds__> zykotick9: Yes, I am getting that error only, but how to make make file ?
[16:52] <bekks> _ds__: Whats the exact, entire output of your error?
[16:52] <_ds__> bekks: It was just "make file not found".
[16:52] <zykotick9> _ds__: well usually with ./configure but you have to follow whatever directions you have...
[16:54] <_ds__> zykotick9: bekks: One thing I would like to mention that everything worked when I directly installed package when I downloaded directly from internet, but not when cloning via terminal ?
[16:54] <bekks> DarthExpeditor: No, it wasnt. Please pastebin the entire error message.
[16:55] <_ds__> zykotick9: bekks: It's solved guys, thanks
[16:57] <dom_2013> hi
[16:58] <pranav> how to install fonts in libre office ?
[17:00] <Jordon_Islwyn> Hello everyone, Jordon_Islwynhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[17:00] <dom_2013> pranav: if you solve it, tell me
[17:03] <pranav> yup! it was naive. i should have used the font viewer instead of searching for a folder to copy :|
[17:03] <IdleOne> pranav: http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/17323/adding-fonts-to-libreoffice-in-ubuntu-1304beta/#17324
[17:08] <oxiredo> I am trying to share internt conection from ppp0 to br0 ( I also have a working script that does work in another Linux OX). But I cant make it work in ubuntu (http://www.routermods.com/iptables-generator/index.php)
[17:08] <oxiredo> any ideea is welcomed
[17:08] <m000gle> I just created a custom .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications but it doesn't appear in Unity dash search results.  Is there any way to force Unity to refresh it's search and icon cache, in order to make this new launcher appear?
[17:09] <trism> m000gle: it shouldn't update instantly but lately in 13.04 I haven't been able to get it to show up until logging out and back in
[17:10] <trism> m000gle: sorry shouldn't = should
[17:10] <oxiredo> where is /var/log/messages file ?
[17:10] <m000gle> trism: That's what I thought, and that's also what has happened with other .desktop files I've created.  It just doesn't seem to work, today, regardless of what I try =/
[17:13] <rypervenche> oxiredo: I believe it's /var/log/syslog on Ubuntu now.
[17:14] <rypervenche> oxiredo: or rsyslog, one of the two.
[17:14] <oxiredo> tnx
[17:14] <wiak> rypervenche: your a mind reader!
[17:14] <wiak> :P
[17:19] <HTT-Bird> ok, why in the world is Quantal's nvidia-current-dev package putting GL headers in /usr/include/nvidia-current/GL ?  nobody can find them there @.@
[17:19] <wiak> ln -s them then :P
[17:20] <thms78> hello all
[17:21] <dds78> hi guyz
[17:21] <dds78> jonbo: hey
[17:21] <Christopher> hi
[17:21] <dds78> Christopher: hi
[17:22] <Christopher> ive installed ubuntu 13.04
[17:22] <Christopher> but
[17:22] <Christopher> when i restart it boots from the usb
[17:22] <Christopher> and if i remove the usb and restart
[17:22] <daftykins> Christopher: can you try and keep it on one line please
[17:22] <Christopher> ok
[17:23] <oxiredo> what log file should I watch for iptables (errors , warnings) ?
[17:23] <jrib> oxiredo: that would depend on what iptables rules you made
[17:24] <oxiredo> I want to make a masquarade ...something
[17:24] <HTT-Bird> wiak: and we shall see. :)
[17:24] <oxiredo> and  it does not work , so I want to see some log file
[17:24] <Christopher> Installation is complete but when i restart it doesnt boot, it boots the menu to install again. if i remove the usb and restart it says operating system not found
[17:26] <rypervenche> oxiredo: You won't see any logging unless you tell it to log.
[17:27] <rypervenche> oxiredo: It might be better to show us your rules and then we can tell you if/where they're wrong.
[17:27] <oxiredo> ok, I will show the one I know it worked on slackware
[17:29] <oxiredo> here : http://pastebin.com/C3kURb0r
[17:30] <dds78> oxiredo:  ?!
[17:30] <HTT-Bird> wiak: had to ln -s both the headers and the libraries and then rerun ldconfig, but it seems to have worked
[17:30] <dds78> symbolics links are godlike
[17:30] <oxiredo> so far  I managed to connect to the host (from an android wia WIFI). But I dont have internet access
[17:30] <HTT-Bird> dds78: they are handy, yes. :)
[17:31] <rypervenche> oxiredo: Instead give us this output, iptables -nL, iptabes -t nat -nL
[17:31] <Christopher> I completed the installation of 13.04 but when I restart to complete the installation it just reboots from the usb.
[17:32] <rypervenche> Christopher: Sounds like you installed grub to your USB drive.
[17:32] <dds78> Christopher: remove your usb key from your computer
[17:32] <dds78> :p
[17:33] <Christopher> Ive tried removing it i just get operating system not found
[17:34] <daftykins> !grub | Christopher
[17:34] <daftykins> ^reinstall grub
[17:34] <oxiredo> outuo if iptables : http://pastebin.com/KJsdaprA
[17:35] <oxiredo> output of iptables :  http://pastebin.com/KJsdaprA **
[17:35] <rypervenche> oxiredo: Well you don't have any rules set up.
[17:36] <oxiredo> hmm,, that could be the reason it did not work ..
[17:39] <oxiredo> iptables -nL : http://pastebin.com/CB6dK7Ed
[17:40] <Christopher> I havent reinstalled windows either. i dont have any other os besides ubuntu on my pc
[17:40] <voila> hello ... very strange .. I own ubuntu 12.04 and updated it in the morning .. now when i restart my computer , i noticed that all my gui is changed ... my terminal gui changed and windows cancel,minimize,maximize button are comming on right like windows contrasting to that of earlier on left :(
[17:40] <voila> any help
[17:40] <voila> it is horrible gui
[17:41] <wiak> update?
[17:41] <voila> sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:42] <wiak> i noticed xfce messed up, after that i just did rm -r .config/xfce4
[17:42] <wiak> :P
[17:42] <oxiredo> rypervenche: I`ve made the rules in iptable:
[17:42] <oxiredo> http://pastebin.com/jkjGuQzS http://pastebin.com/CB6dK7Ed
[17:42] <voila> wiak, is that for me ?
[17:42] <rypervenche> oxiredo: You want to see help you with your masquerading, but you're not showing us your nat table. "iptables -t nat -nL" please
[17:42] <linuxearth> which ubuntu version should be installed?
[17:43] <voila> 12.04
[17:43] <rypervenche> oxiredo: Ok, so what is it that you're trying to do then.
[17:43] <voila> linuxearth, 12.04
[17:43] <gvo> linuxearth: that depends a lot on what you want it to do.
[17:43] <oxiredo> share internet from ppp0 to br0 (wlan1 and later ethX)
[17:43] <gvo> linuxearth: voila 's suggestion is pretty good for most users.
[17:44] <voila> gvo, my suggestion ??
[17:44] <gvo> linuxearth: but if you have very new hardware you might have to run a later version.
[17:44] <wiak> rypervenche boo
[17:44] <gvo> voila 12.04
[17:45] <voila> gvo, I told my version of ubuntu :)
[17:45] <voila> not any suggestions :)
[17:45] <voila> After upgrading my system .. all guis changed
[17:45] <gvo> voila: I think linuxearth wanted to know what version to install.
[17:45] <voila> lol
[17:45] <voila> ohh ok
[17:45] <wiak> messed up config upgrade then
[17:45] <voila> then 12.04
[17:45] <wiak> check .config folder in home root
[17:45] <wiak> :P
[17:46] <wiak> home*
[17:46] <wiak> user home*
[17:46] <wiak> :P
[17:46] <FloodBot1> wiak: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:46] <linuxearth> gvo: yes
[17:46] <linuxearth> which ubuntu version should be installed?
[17:46] <wiak> sexy bot
[17:46] <oxiredo> so, could be iptables the reason I dont have the internet shared ( or could also be dhcpd or else ) ? . I was able to connect to host (<IP_ADDRESS>) also pings worked
[17:46] <wiak> linuxearth: depends
[17:46] <wiak> LTS meybe?
[17:46] <linuxearth> means?
[17:46] <ReDL1ZARD> hi
[17:46] <gvo> linuxearth: see our replies.
[17:46] <linuxearth> means i need to learn the chess
[17:46] <linuxearth> sorry linux
[17:47] <linuxearth> i mean i need to learn the linux
[17:47] <gvo> linuxearth: 12.04 in that case.
[17:47] <ReDL1ZARD> are there any software to search shoutcast directory and play web radio?
[17:47] <linuxearth> 12.04
[17:47] <linuxearth> hmm
[17:47] <linuxearth> okay
[17:47] <linuxearth> that has terminal?
[17:47] <FloodBot1> linuxearth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:47] <gvo> linuxearth: but NOT unity.
[17:47] <visualise> linux-ninja, yes
[17:47] <gvo> linuxearth: Sure
[17:48] <linuxearth> okk and apart from this, one more thing
[17:48] <linuxearth> my friend has told me that he made my connection secured,how do i check that..? he is not here and i am alone most of the time, cani check it with anything right now?
[17:48] <linuxearth> over irc
[17:49] <visualise> ReDL1ZARD, there's SHOUTCURSES for searching/playing shoutcast streams from terminal. It uses ncurses
[17:49] <gvo> linuxearth: Can't help with that question.
[17:49] <linuxearth> okk
[17:49] <linuxearth> ty
[17:49] <visualise> ReDL1ZARD, or did you want gui/gtk?
[17:49] <ReDL1ZARD> visualise: i googled and nothing, ugh
[17:50] <visualise> ReDL1ZARD, try http://shoutcurses.tappir.com
[17:50] <ReDL1ZARD> ReDL1ZARD: thanks m8 :)
[17:51] <dds78> ***
[17:51] <dds78> who use lib notify ?
[17:51] <visualise> dds78, ubuntu?
[17:51] <dds78> on debian
[17:52] <dds78> what is the display on a correctly installed script?
[17:52] <ReDL1ZARD> visualise: AWESOME. thats just what i was looking for!!
[17:52] <ReDL1ZARD> thanks again :)
[17:52] <oxiredo>  could be iptables the reason I dont have the internet shared ( or could also be dhcpd or else ) ? . I was able to connect to host (<IP_ADDRESS>) also pings worked *
[17:52] <ReDL1ZARD> bye everybody!!
[17:54] <dds78> who can pv me plz
[17:55] <dds78> someone can semnd me a msg in private plz? just for a test
[17:57] <goddard> check out this game for linux http://store.steampowered.com/app/209540/
[17:57] <ikonia> goddard: please don't spam links
[17:58] <goddard> ikonia: its ok bud this isn't spam
[17:58] <ikonia> goddard:  it is spam - please don't do it
[17:58] <goddard> ikonia: its a steam game that is awesome hardly spam :D
[17:58] <ikonia> goddard: it's unsollicated information - please, just don't do it, ok ?
[17:58] <bekks> goddard: Advertisements are considered to be spam, even outside the IRC.
[17:59] <goddard> its not an advertisment
[17:59] <goddard> i didn't make this game
[18:04] <russw> does anyone know where the ufw rules show up?  I'm adding stuff with "ufw allow foo" when not enabled, and can't tell if it is sticking.
[18:04] <russw> I don't want to enable in case my ssh gets locked out (as it warns me it might)
[18:06] <auronandace> !ufw | russw
[18:06] <daftykins> russw: iptables
[18:06] <Slart> russw: ufw --help doesn't give you any information on how to view rules?
[18:07] <Slart> russw: something along the lines of   sudo ufw status verbose
[18:07] <russw> Slart: 'status' is normally the one, but when not enabled it simply says "status inactive"
[18:07] <russw> verbose is no better
[18:07] <Slart> russw: ahh.. sneaky
[18:08] <Slart> russw: have a loot at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/30781/see-configured-rules-even-when-inactive
[18:09] <russw> Slart: thx... that looks promising
[18:10] <russw> weird.  The user rules are in /lib/ufw/user.rules (rather than in /etc/ufw, where you'd think they'd be)
[18:10] <russw> thx Slart
[18:11] <Slart> russw: you're welcome
[18:15] <soumyajit> please helpppp
[18:15] <soumyajit> i am unable to change my laptop brightness
[18:15] <soumyajit> my eyen are burning
[18:16] <woo> soumyajit: you already used the brightness setting program?
[18:16] <soumyajit> yeah
[18:16] <soumyajit> but it isd not working
[18:16] <soumyajit> i am using 13.04
[18:17] <woo> soumyajit: is there an "auto" button for your fn functions?
[18:17] <soumyajit> no
[18:18] <lyda> does anyone use the ivso bluetooth keyboard on a nexus 7 with ubuntu.
[18:18] <bazhang> lyda, try #ubuntu-touch
[18:19] <soumyajit> woo: what should i do???
[18:19] <lyda> bazhang: brill.  thanks!
[18:20] <soumyajit> pleaseeeeeeee helpppp anyone
[18:21] <bazhang> !helpme | soumyajit
[18:27] <woo> soumyajit: you still there?
[18:27] <soumyajit> yeh
[18:27] <woo> I have to log out and then back in to check config
[18:28] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[18:29] <daftykins> hi
[18:30] <soumyajit> i am unable to change my laptop brightness
[18:30] <soumyajit> my eyen are burning
[18:30] <daftykins> so you keep saying.
[18:31] <bazhang> !repeat | soumyajit
[18:31] <Abbas|> soumyajit does ur laptop keyboard not come with addtional Fn key
[18:31] <Abbas|> and brightness / sound controls via that key?
[18:32] <soumyajit> yeah but nothing happens when i press those key
[18:32] <ShapeShifter499> After updating and messing around with display drivers and xorg everything appears to be working now except unity, why is this?    my system is setup to log myself password free but it loads to a session with just the desktop icons no top panel, no unity switcher on the left. I am able to kick myself out into the login by going into one of the TTY's and "sudo pkill -u user"   and I can log into x
[18:32] <ShapeShifter499> fce4 fine but not unity, any ideas?
[18:33] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: no errors in the logs?
[18:33] <soumyajit> it show the brightness is decreasing but in the real nothing happens
[18:33] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, which log should I be looking at?
[18:34] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: /var/log/syslog is a good start
[18:34] <QuietStorm81> Afternoon all. Strange issue with my wifi here. I can't connect to routers if the key is all numbers but can connect to ones that have letters in them. Any help? I'm using a laptop on 13.04
[18:35] <Slart> soumyajit: some laptops need special settings.. that was the case with my asus laptop.. regular brightness settings (fn+F7 or whatever) didn't work but after changing some stuff it works
[18:35] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, ok, I'm looking to see if there is anything, want me to pastebin a copy of that log?
[18:35] <gvo> ShapeShifter499: $HOME/.xsession-errors might also contain something
[18:35] <Slart> soumyajit: try googling for your laptop model/manufacturer and brightness ubuntu  should get you some answers
[18:36] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: try     grep -i fail /var/log/syslog     no need to pastebin
[18:36] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: change fail to error also..
[18:37] <soumyajit> Slart: i tried but failed
[18:37] <L-sama> how do you install the grub manager on ubuntu 12.4?
[18:37] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, gvo this seems like the error:   "Aug 18 11:33:01 lance-Aspire-7540 kernel: [ 1301.279218] unity_support_t[14463]: segfault at 0 ip 00007ffb3a552a49 sp 00007fff89523290 error 4 in r600_dri.so[7ffb3a4a6000+e4000]"
[18:37] <ShapeShifter499> segfault
[18:38] <gvo> ShapeShifter499: Not nice
[18:38] <gordonjcp> !grub | L-sama
[18:38] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: that looks like a probable cause.. not really a lot you can do about a sefault though
[18:38] <gvo> ShapeShifter499: Try apt-get dist-upgrade.
[18:38] <L-sama> ok grub 2, but I only have applications and places menus
[18:38] <Slart> soumyajit: then you get to be the one writing this first webpage that the next guy with the same problem finds =)
[18:39] <L-sama> I lost my administration menus with synaptic and grub manager
[18:39] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, actually unity was working at some point, I seemed to have messed it up trying to install the proprietary display drivers for my system
[18:39] <jasonlangberg> should i learn linux and ubuntu so i can help out the community in chatrooms
[18:39] <palomer> hey guys, if I burn a live usb
[18:39] <palomer> will I be able to install stuff on it?
[18:39] <palomer> like, will it be peristent
[18:39] <L-sama> !grub
[18:40] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: imho installing drivers should make stuff segfault.. that's just bad programming, if you ask me
[18:40] <gvo> palomer if you reserve space for it, yes
[18:40] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: sorry... *shouldn't*
[18:40] <L-sama> I still have grub I only need to get my grub manager to set grub at start
[18:40] <palomer> gvo, how?
[18:40] <gvo> palomer use unetbootin
[18:41] <ShapeShifter499> gvo, even after running apt-get update, there seems like there is nothing to update
[18:41] <ShapeShifter499> *upgrade
[18:41] <gvo> palomer: there is an option in the menu to add space for saving IIRC
[18:41] <leeSL510> If I needed help with firefox in ubuntu 13.04 would I post here?
[18:42] <gvo> ShapeShifter499: It was just something to try.
[18:42] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, whatever reason that error is referencing a card I do not have installed
[18:42] <daftykins> leeSL510: you can try
[18:42] <ShapeShifter499> R600?
[18:42] <ShapeShifter499> mine is R880
[18:42] <ShapeShifter499> iirc
[18:42] <Varazir> I'm tryibg to update linux-headers-3.2.0-52-generic and I get No space left on device , I checked df -h and I have 3 GB left on /
[18:42] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, my card is a ATI Radeon HD 4200
[18:42] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: hmm.. wonder if you can uninstall/blacklist the r600 driver.. ie make it not load and mess things up?
[18:42] <ShapeShifter499> this is a laptop
[18:43] <jrib> Varazir: pastebin output of « df -h ›
[18:43] <gvo> Varazir: as jrib says
[18:43] <Varazir> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000433/
[18:43] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, I wouldn't know how
[18:44] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: hmm.. let me look around.. I've got a nvidia-card myself but perhaps google knows something
[18:44] <leeSL510> This may not be limited to Firefox, but it seems the computer freezes at time when I select a youtube video. The screen looks like it's about to dim out. I can move the mouse but not click anything. I'm not sure what's causing this?
[18:44] <QuietStorm81> Question: Strange issue with my wifi here. I can't connect to routers if the key is all numbers but can connect to ones that have letters in them. Any help? I'm using a laptop on 13.04
[18:44] <Varazir> don't know what's taking upp all space, only thing I'm running the client is skype
[18:44] <jrib> Varazir: paste full input and output of your apt-get command
[18:44] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, ok
[18:45] <Varazir> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000441/
[18:45] <gvo> Varazir: Does it fail immediately or after a while?
[18:46] <Varazir> gvo: immediately
[18:46] <gvo> Anything interesting in the syslog?
[18:47] <DocOC> google has failed me. How can I make sure that byobu-tmux allows my $PROMPT_COMMAND to set the terminal window title, instead of just setting it to user@host (ip) - byobu
[18:48] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, is it crazy to try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a" to reconfigure everything installed?
[18:48] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: hmm, didn't really find anything. Can you uninstall the driver you installed? go back to the default drivers?
[18:49] <Varazir> gvo: nothing what I can see
[18:49] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, that is what I did after I tried the proprietary drivers, back on default open source drivers and still no unity
[18:49] <gvo> Interesting.
[18:50] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: does it work if you boot from a live/install cd?
[18:50] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, it works if I log into guest
[18:50] <ShapeShifter499> yes it also works in live cd
[18:51] <Varazir> I rebooted the system just to make sure
[18:51] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: oh! that's promising... can you create a new user? does it work for the new user?
[18:51] <jrib> Varazir: are you able to create some file like /usr/src/linux-headers-3.8.0-25/arch/arm/mach-iop13xx/include/mach/iq81340.h.dpkg-wtf yourself?
[18:51] <gvo> Varazir: try a df -h /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-52/arch/arm/mach-iop13xx/include/mach
[18:52] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, no I haven't done that
[18:52] <slacko25328> sup fuckers
[18:52] <Varazir> df: `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-52/arch/arm/mach-iop13xx/include/mach': No such file or directory
[18:52] <Slart> !ohmy | slacko25328
[18:52] <L-sama> hello
[18:52] <L-sama> how can I find the system menu in gnome ? for 12.4 LTS?
[18:53] <woo> that brigness config killed my boot up.  I ended up in init 1 editing my xorg.conf
[18:53] <Varazir> LOL nice command :D LLAP
[18:53] <avallark> hello all :)
[18:53] <gvo> varazir OK try mkdir -p /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-52/arch/arm/mach-iop13xx/include/mach
[18:53] <woo> hi avallark
[18:53] <gvo> Varazir: then try the df statement again
[18:53] <Varazir> gvo: worked
[18:54] <avallark> Just trying out irc on emacs ! :) very nice
[18:54] <linuxliam> my wallpaper transitins are so laggy
[18:54] <Varazir> gvo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000475/
[18:54] <DocOC> avalarion, what client do you use in emacs?
[18:54] <gvo> Varazir: I think he's lying to you.  Try the update once again.
[18:55] <Varazir> gvo: same error
[18:55] <jrib> gvo: dpkg extract .deb somewhere temporarily?  Where?
[18:55] <Varazir> gvo: this is a VM running on a ESXi host
[18:56] <Varazir> checked no low space on the host storage
[18:56] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, it's been a while, I think I'm going to start fresh and never ever touch the proprietary drivers
[18:56] <gvo> varazir: I figured it was a VM of some sort.  Look on the host syslog
[18:57] <jrib> Varazir: I would make some 100 MB file or so myself to see if issue repeats
[18:57] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, I'll just resize, install to new partition, backup what I want, remove old partition, and resize
[18:57] <L-sama> what tools replaced startup manager?
[18:57] <gvo> Varazir: I'm not familiar with ESXi so I don't know where errors might be logged on the host.
[18:57] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: I'm sorry I don't have any better solution for you.. it might be as easy as removing a file or two but I don't know where to start with this
[18:57] <gvo> jrib good idea
[18:59] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, next computer I get will not be a AMD chipset, those are hell to get running from what I already read and experienced
[18:59] <bekks> ShapeShifter499: Actually, thats not true. They do run as smooth as other ones.
[18:59] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, thank you for trying to help out
[19:00] <Varazir> gvo: testing to download a 100MB file
[19:00] <ShapeShifter499> bekks, what I don't like is they could drop support at anytime making it hard to support
[19:00] <bekks> ShapeShifter499: Huh? Where do you get that obvious wrong information from?
[19:00] <linuxliam> using XML files to automatically change backgrounds works but the transitions are laggy
[19:01] <ars23> does anybody knows something about gtksourceviewmm? i tried on the channel for gtk but didn't find an answer...
[19:02] <DocOC> anyone know how I can get terminal windows running byobu-tmux to allow my $PROMPT_COMMAND to set the terminal window title?
[19:02] <ShapeShifter499> bekks, how is that wrong? they stopped supporting the latest xorg for the chipset my laptop has
[19:02] <bekks> ShapeShifter499: Because your hardware is too old, isnt it?
[19:02] <ShapeShifter499> bekks, making a otherwise still ok computer crap
[19:03] <ShapeShifter499> bekks, it's around 3 years old
[19:03] <linuxliam> any ideas
[19:03] <bekks> ShapeShifter499: If our chipset is too old, then it isnt supported anymore. Thats how technology evolves. And Intel is doing the very same - with the difference that you do not own Intel hw yet.
[19:04] <bekks> *your
[19:06] <gvo> Varazir: I'll bet you are out of Inodes....
[19:07] <L-sama> how do you customize grub?
[19:07] <DocOC> df -i will tell you if you are out of inodes.
[19:07] <gvo> Varazir: As will stat -f /
[19:08] <Varazir> bingo
[19:08] <gvo> Varazir: And the answer is?
[19:08] <gvo> He's keeping us in suspense...
[19:08] <Varazir> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000516/
[19:09] <Varazir> out of inodes
[19:09] <DocOC> if you are out of inodes, something is creating a lot of little files and not cleaning up after itself. I've seen this happen with php with the gc_enable = Off set  in php.ini
[19:10] <gvo> Varazir: It's a fairly common problem with containers.  I can't ever recall running out of inodes on my host.
[19:10] <Varazir> gvo: ok
[19:10] <Varazir> gvo: didn't know about it :)
[19:11] <DocOC> varazir, is this a web-server vm?
[19:11] <Varazir> no
[19:11] <Varazir> running skype
[19:11] <Varazir> that's it
[19:12] <Varazir> and skyped.py a python script to communicate with bitlbee
[19:12] <DocOC> running skype client?
[19:12] <Varazir> skype client
[19:12] <bekks> ShapeShifter499: Oh, and btw - why cant you use 12.04 - which is supported until 2017?
[19:12] <gvo> too many files somewhere.
[19:13] <gvo> Look in /tmp
[19:13] <bekks> gvo: /tmp is in RAM by default.
[19:13] <bekks> gvo: and df -i will tell you where you have no inodes anymore.
[19:13] <gvo> wow small tmp space
[19:14] <Varazir> running disk usage analyzer :P
[19:14] <gvo> bekks his tmp space is in /
[19:14] <bekks> du -hi --max-depth=1 /
[19:14] <Varazir> most files/itme sin /usr/bin 1121
[19:14] <robin_be> hello
[19:15] <bekks> Varazir: 1121 is nothing, merely.
[19:15] <Varazir> nvm
[19:15] <Varazir> the stats didn't count for subfolders
[19:16] <bekks> Varazir: du -shi /*
[19:17] <Varazir> -i is invalid
[19:17] <woo> anyone running eclipse on ubuntu pangolin?
[19:17] <usr13> -h
[19:18] <DocOC> woo: I did when I was on pangolin
[19:18] <woo> DocOC: can get karel's source files to be recognized.  Its that a furter config issue or an ubuntu issue?
[19:20] <woo> DocOC: I can load the maps but I can't run anything
[19:21] <DocOC> woo: I don't know if this is an issue, I did this because I was doing android coding, but I used sun java 6 for java, not the default openjdk
[19:21] <gvo> Varazir: Find the files yet?
[19:22] <Varazir> found this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/653096/howto-free-inode-usage
[19:22] <cipherboy> Okay, this is getting annoying and #MacOSX isn't on topic at the moment... Anyone willing to help trouble shoot compiling on OS X? Trying to build a basic gnu collection, but everything fails on ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64 ...
[19:22] <woo> DocOC: I installed java 7
[19:24] <robin_be> can someone help me fixing my bootloader?
[19:24] <Varazir> I'll check back tomorrow see if the search have found anything
[19:24] <linuxliam> using XML files to automatically change backgrounds works but the transitions are laggy
[19:24] <cipherboy> robin_be: whats your problem?
[19:24] <bekks> Varazir: The searc takes a few minutes only.
[19:24] <Varazir> bekks: still running
[19:24] <bekks> Varazir: Which is still "a few minutes". :)
[19:24] <Varazir> bekks: ya
[19:24] <robin_be> error: no such partitions on boot
[19:25] <DocOC> woo, you installed it, but is it the default java. do this: java -version
[19:25] <robin_be> *when i boot
[19:25] <novaspirit> i need help trying to compile something for all ubuntu using make. how would i do that? when i compile and transfer the file to another ubuntu it always saying missing files
[19:25] <cipherboy> robin_be: did you recently add or remove drives and what version of Ubuntu?
[19:26] <Varazir> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000558/
[19:26] <robin_be> no and it's lubuntu (let me get version)
[19:26] <Varazir> and gvo
[19:26] <DocOC> novaspirit, on the other ubuntu, type ldd <your program>
[19:26] <robin_be> I think 13.04
[19:26] <gvo> Varazir: OK its in usr now try find /usr .....
[19:26] <bekks> Varazir: thats a very, very useless search.
[19:26] <woo> DocOC: ya its openjdk
[19:27] <robin_be> I'm on the liveCD now
[19:27] <Varazir> the line you gave me didn't work
[19:27] <gvo> bekks, he's zeroing in on it.
[19:27] <DocOC> woo, do this: update-alternatives --config java
[19:27] <bekks> Varazir: It counts the number of files, it doesnt count the space, it doesnt count the inodes, it doesnt tell you what is using space.
[19:27] <Varazir> bekks: it gave my -i is not a valid
[19:27] <novaspirit> DocOC, i will try that give me a sec
[19:27] <bekks> Varazir: du -sh /*
[19:27] <bekks> Varazir: Omit the -i then.
[19:28] <Varazir> bekks: :)
[19:28] <robin_be> yep, 13.04
[19:28] <bekks> Varazir: Or even more useful: du -shx /*
[19:28] <woo> DocOC: ok brb
[19:28] <DocOC> bekks: not sure, but I think du my try to glob the directory, which will not work if it has an overwhelming amount of inodes.
[19:28] <gvo> bekks that's even more useless.
[19:28] <bekks> gvo: Because?
[19:29] <robin_be> cipherboy
[19:29] <bekks> DocOC: IT works perfectly.
[19:29] <CaitlynUnity> howdy, I have  what are probably some very nooby questions about some things i'm trying to set up in ubuntu, probably basic unix stuff really , but i don't want to annoy you in this group about it (having to do with where i should put my executables, and rc.local stuff)
[19:29] <gvo> At least on my system it just give me disk space.
[19:29] <cipherboy> robin_be: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing  ; scroll down until you get to the section on installing grub from a live cd. Follow those steps, then report back..next step will be to chroot and update-grub.
[19:29] <bekks> gvo: Thats what du is intended to do.
[19:29] <woo> smue: DocOC found them
[19:29] <bekks> And thats necessary to see what is using space.
[19:29] <CaitlynUnity> Is this a good group to ask? Or is there a #desperatenoobubuntuquestions channel? :)
[19:29] <woo> mt smue sry
[19:29] <woo> sorry
[19:29] <robin_be> ok
[19:30] <gvo> bekks but a file count as his script ran gave him files.   So searching for inodes is useless, when trying to free up space.
[19:31] <DocOC> bekks, he is not trying to free up space. He is out of inodes.
[19:31] <gvo> But he's trying to free up inodes not space
[19:31] <gvo> He has 3 Gb of space and 1000 inodes.
[19:31] <bekks> gvo: IF the problem is - we dont even know. And that single case (a bunch of small files) is the only case where find -type f might be useful.
[19:31] <CaitlynUnity> I need to install a couple of server daemons (IRC and atheme services actually) and right now they're in my ~ directory, so like caitlynunity/atheme and caitlynunity/inspircd
[19:31] <bekks> gvo: 3GB space and 1000 files - those files arent that small then.
[19:31] <CaitlynUnity> i'm wondering if it's a better idea to put them someplace like /usr/local/bin instead
[19:31] <gvo> bekks we do know he's out of inodes.
[19:32] <CaitlynUnity> since i dont want them to be dependent on my account
[19:32] <gvo> bekks he has 3 gb free and only 1000 inodes free.
[19:32] <DocOC> gvo, bekks is onto the right track. try this: for i in /* ; do echo $i;find $i -type f|wc -l;done
[19:33] <gvo> Varazir: find /usr -xdev -type f | cut -d "/" -f 2 | sort | uniq -c | sort -n
[19:33] <bekks> Looking for the number of files is useless. Better look for directories wasting space in first instance.
[19:33] <gvo> dococ we already know most of the files are under user.
[19:34] <robin_be> cipherboy: sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt   gives: mount: apparaat /dev/sda5 bestaat niet     (device /dev/sda5 does not exists)
[19:34] <jrib> CaitlynUnity: /usr/local is a good spot (assuming you can't get them through the repositories)
[19:34] <gvo> dococ did you see his pastebin?
[19:35] <bekks> gvo: The number of files is irrelevant actually.
[19:35] <cipherboy> robin_be: pastebin the output of  sudo fdisk -l
[19:35] <DocOC> I did not see his pastebin. So, same thing in /usr
[19:35] <gvo> bekks not if he's got a bunch of small files.
[19:35] <CaitlynUnity> ah yes, thanks.. I had to make them from the console, so no package manager alas.. should i put them in /usr/local/bin/myexampleircd/ r just /usr/local/myexampleircd
[19:35] <bekks> gvo: /usr/src with a few kernels easily maxes out 1M files - using a few GB only.
[19:35] <cipherboy> robin_be: it sounds like your drive moved or something?
[19:35] <robin_be> cipherboy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000583/
[19:35] <bekks> gvo: IF - which is still unclear.
[19:35] <DocOC> bekks, number of files is exactly the issue. Each file takes an inode. He is out of inodes.
[19:36] <Varazir> :)
[19:37] <cipherboy> robin_be: does ls show /dev/sda5?
[19:38] <robin_be> ls: kan geen toegang krijgen tot show: Bestand of map bestaat niet   (no access, file or folder does not exist)
[19:39] <cipherboy> robin_be: Does ls /dev/sda* show your other partitions?
[19:39] <robin_be> cipherboy: /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda4
[19:39] <Varazir> gvo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000591/
[19:40] <bekks> Varazir: Clean up /usr/src then.
[19:40] <bekks> Varazir: cd /usr/src/yourkerneldir/; sudo make clean
[19:41] <Varazir> will do thanks :)
[19:43] <cipherboy> robin_be: This is interesting... What does `dmesg | grep 'sda' ` say (pastebin please)?
[19:44] <robin_be> cipherboy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000607/
[19:44] <woo> DocOC: I figured it out ty for all your help
[19:44] <Varazir> can't I j ust delte all dirs except my current kerneldir ?
[19:44] <bekks> No.
[19:44] <Varazir> ok
[19:45] <DocOC> woo, update-alternative --config java did it for you?
[19:45] <bekks> Varazir: That might break packages - uninstall all linux-image / linux-headers packages you dont need.
[19:45] <woo> DocOC: ya that and started a new class
[19:45] <DocOC> very cool. Glad you got it worked out.
[19:46] <DocOC> woo, next step: set up eclim ;)
[19:46] <cipherboy> robin_be: How old is this disk? It looks like there is an IO error on it, hence why it isn't finding the last few partitions.
[19:47] <Varazir> I have source since apr last year :S
[19:47] <Varazir> <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:47] <Hedge> My first time using an IRC, what are you guys talking about?
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> hedge: this is ubuntu support only
[19:48] <robin_be> cipherboy: 2-3 years :s
[19:48] <bekks> Varazir: Yeah, delete all kernels and headers you do not need. Remove the packages, then remove the stuff left over in /usr/src/
[19:48] <Hedge> I am sorry I thought it was a discussion irc I will disconnect
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> hedge: chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##cafe-ubuntu
[19:48] <diphtherial> hey, i'm attempting to help a friend dual boot windows and ubuntu on his machine (he has windows installed currently)
[19:49] <PoolShark_> hi all
[19:49] <reisio> hi pool
[19:49] <diphtherial> i'm unfortunately not physically at the machine, but he claims that even after installing ubuntu to another partition his machine just boots into windows without giving him an option to choose the other partition to boot from
[19:49] <cipherboy> robin_be: Hmm, shouldn't be too old then... Check the smart status on the drive then?
[19:49] <DocOC> diphtherial, the installer will give you the choice to keep existing partitions, and set up the grub boot menu.
[19:49] <robin_be> cipherboy: how can I do that?
[19:49] <PoolShark_> diphtherial: Ubuntu doesn't always install grub on the correct disk
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: is it uefi based?
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> diphtherial:  its possible it put grub on the wrong drive. or failed to install grub.
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | diphtherial
[19:50] <reisio> correct varies
[19:50] <PoolShark_> diphtherial: the motherboard is pribably still set to boot from the windows drive, and Ubuntu probably did not install grub on that drive
[19:50] <diphtherial> PoolShark_: i'm of the same opinion
[19:50] <reisio> diphtherial: can probably fix it with easybcd from the windows end
[19:50] <PoolShark_> diphtherial: the installer is counter-intuitive.. you have to tell it you don't want to install Grub to be given the option to install it in the correct location
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: did s/he install using wubi
[19:51] <reisio> well, there's no one correct location
[19:51] <PoolShark_> reisio: the point is that the default location it chooses is almost never correct in multi-drive systems
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: can ee get some details about the setup etc...
[19:51] <reisio> PoolShark_: if you said almost never the simplest solution for end users, I might agree :)
[19:52] <cipherboy> robin_be: smartctl -a /dev/sda    ; might need to install it though first, not sure if livecd has it.
[19:52] <diphtherial> heh, apologies, still getting information from the guy
[19:52] <phantomcircuit> im trying to install on a GT60 dual boot with windows 8
[19:52] <diphtherial> i appreciate the help thus far; he claims he installed ubuntu to the same drive, so he apparently only has one
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> !uefi
[19:52] <phantomcircuit> when i try in UEFI mode the screen is blank but it's clearly booted
[19:52] <diphtherial> he has this motherboard: http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4482#ov
[19:52] <reisio> diphtherial: probably just that fix grub link should do it, then
[19:52] <reisio> although potentially not if it already failed once
[19:52] <PoolShark_> reisio: well, I'm just speaking from experience.. I've never had an installer that wanted to put Grub in the right place
[19:53] <PoolShark_> in a multiple-drive, or complex system
[19:53] <diphtherial> he claims that he's attempted to install grub without any change
[19:53] <reisio> PoolShark_: I think it asks if you do the manual partitioning
[19:53] <reisio> diphtherial: then we might need his fstab, his grub.cfg, etc.
[19:53] <robin_be> cipherboy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000633/
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: you can chroot from livecd and install grub
[19:54] <Varazir> bekks: deleted all <IP_ADDRESS>x source files and now it's working
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: look for a guide at omgubuntu named "sticking it to grub"
[19:54] <Varazir> thanks for the help everyone :)
[19:54] <PoolShark_> Varazir
[19:54] <PoolShark_> np
[19:54] <PoolShark_> heh
[19:55] <Varazir> gvo and bekks :)
[19:55] <sabret00the> Does anyone know how to get the Firefox Nightly Ubuntu PPA back up and running? It's been down for a couple weeks now.
[19:55] <phantomcircuit> ActionParsnip, quickboot is disabled, secureboot is disable
[19:55] <phantomcircuit> i dont think this is really a UEFI problem but rather an issue with there being both integrated and dedicated video cards, intel/nvidia
[19:55] <bekks> sabret00the: You cant do it - you have to contact the author.
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: what gpu do you use?
[19:55] <Varazir> and DocOC too :)
[19:56] <DocOC> you are welocme, Varazir
[19:56] <phantomcircuit> ActionParsnip, uh well on win8 you use both, the dedicated card is used for specific applications
[19:56] <diphtherial> ActionParsnip: taking a look at this video now, thanks
[19:56] <phantomcircuit> there isn't a BIOS setting to pick one
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[19:56] <sabret00the> bekks: Thanks, I've tried a few different methods with no joy. Thought maybe there was a method to automate it.
[19:56] <phantomcircuit> afaict
[19:56] <phantomcircuit> will do
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: you will need bumblebee to support your switchable mess. You have my nightmare pc
[19:57] <PoolShark_> anyone ever mess with NIC bonding in Linux?
[19:58] <cipherboy> robin_be: I would be cautious about using it... perhaps get a new disk and start cloning it. While it isn't that old, the two read errors when you tried to boot it (I assume those are from when you tried booting it and it failed on unknown partition) would worry me if it was my drive. You could try manually creating a device file for it (I forget how off the top of my head, try google) but not sure if that will work.
[19:58] <phantomcircuit> ActionParsnip, bumblebee as in the software that removed /usr on uninstall?
[19:58] <phantomcircuit> :(
[19:58] <PoolShark_> I'd like to aggregate multiple NICs into one *physical* link but everything I read talks about *logical* links that don't truly aggregate their available throughput
[19:58] <markr> hello, i am running 12.04 on an acer aspire 7560 and am having issues with the keyboard backspace key behaving odd. mainly in firefox and terminal i think it is a layout issue however i have tried all of the english layouts to no avail. could someone help
[19:58] <reisio> markr: define odd
[19:59] <phantomcircuit> ActionParsnip, sadly nouveau.blacklist=1 still gives me a blank screen, the blacklight is on though so im sure the kernel is loaded
[19:59] <robin_be> cipherboy: okay thanks for your help
[19:59] <phantomcircuit> probably i could install from memory but that's a bit risky
[19:59] <markr> other keys are behaving odd as well such as the the left shift key. it skips the last letter and deletes the second to last one and places the cursor there
[19:59] <phantomcircuit> ActionParsnip, is there an equivalent to blacklist the intel driver?
[19:59] <PoolShark_> that is odd indeed
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: no idea. i dont use switchable nonesense. I think its a nasty hack
[20:00] <markr> it does not seem to be present in empathy though
[20:00] <phantomcircuit> ActionParsnip, it absolutely is a nasty hack
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: you can use the same blacklist method for the intel driver
[20:00] <phantomcircuit> for some reason things work fine in LEGACY boot mode
[20:00] <phantomcircuit> it's intel_agp right
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> poolshark: if they are on the same LAN you wont get extra speed
[20:01] <Gnea> !ppa
[20:01] <phantomcircuit> ActionParsnip, i actually have ubuntu installed, but it only boots if i set LEGACY boot mode
[20:01] <phantomcircuit> if i switch to UEFI it boots win8
[20:01] <PoolShark_> ActionParsnip: that's been my experience so far yes
[20:01] <phantomcircuit> so ... it kind of works...
[20:01] <markr> looking over the forums the suggestion on other acer models to disable legacy usb support came up empty because this models bios does not have legacy usb support
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: is the OS fully updated?
[20:02] <PoolShark_> I've gotten higher speed with balance-rr but the packet loss rate is pretty high due to timing variances
[20:02] <phantomcircuit> ActionParsnip, yeah
[20:02] <phantomcircuit> the restricted drivers stuff doesn't detect the nvidia gpu
[20:03] <phantomcircuit> installing them manually is very much a "sort of works" thing
[20:03] <phantomcircuit> the screen resolution is so wrong there's no way to access the sidebar
[20:03] <phantomcircuit> i actually dont want to use the nvidia card at all under ubuntu though so that doesn't matter
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> run the nvidia-settings tool and select a proper res
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> You got a dual gpu Optimius system then? with intel and nvidia?
[20:04] <phantomcircuit> Dr_Willis, lol i cant since i cant do much of anything
[20:04] <phantomcircuit> Dr_Willis, yup
[20:04] <markr> i am still downloading updates  on this install, however it was present in 13 as well
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> phantomcircuit:   then you need to be checking out the optimus wiki page/guides
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/search?tab=votes&q=optimus
[20:05] <IMTheNachoMan> hey guys. ive install libexif-gtk but i cant figure out where it installed or how to run it. anyone have an ideas?
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: you dont need the proprietary driver. you need bumblebee
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> !bumblebee
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> IMTheNachoMan:  whats in that librry you feel you need to 'run' ?
[20:06] <thestoner> can any1 pm me to help me with dns settings
[20:07] <IMTheNachoMan> Dr_Willis: http://libexif.sourceforge.net/ - I want to run gexif. From what I'm reading its a GUI tool to let me edit EXIF data
[20:07] <thestoner> please and thanks
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> !find gexif
[20:07] <DocOC> thestoner, are you trying to get name resolution working, or are you trying to configure a dns server?
[20:08] <thestoner> trying to switch the address of the dns
[20:08] <thestoner> so i use a different one
[20:08] <DocOC> thestoner, do you use dhcp for your network interface?
[20:08] <IMTheNachoMan> Dr_Willis, ??
[20:08] <thestoner> i think so in case how do i find out
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> IMTheNachoMan:  the bot seems to think its in one of those packages. I dont see it however.. so  it may be obsolete
[20:10] <Dr_Willis> http://sourceforge.net/projects/libexif/files/gexif/0.5/
[20:11] <Dr_Willis> IMTheNachoMan:  last modified 2003 - looks like it may be a dead project to me.
[20:11] <IMTheNachoMan> Dr_Willis, oh. damn. okay...thanks
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> thestoner: nm-cli ,will tell you probs
[20:11] <phantomcircuit> hmm
[20:12] <phantomcircuit> so bumblebee could help once i've installed
[20:12] <DocOC> ok, so this is a desktop computer. In the upper right-hand corner of your panel, there is a little network icon. You can click on that, and configure your interfaces.
[20:12] <phantomcircuit> but i cant seem to get anything but a blank display installing with UEFI
[20:13] <phantomcircuit> and i'd rather not have to switch between legacy/uefi everytime i want to switch
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> at least you can switch to legacy. some people cant even get that working
[20:15] <DocOC> I believe ctrl-x will save and close in nano
[20:16] <reisio> says at the bottom
[20:16] <wouter__> I am planning on buying some hardware to setup an ubuntu based server. Motherboard is going to be a asrock b75 pro3-m.  Is there a hardware compatibility list somewhere so I know I am going to be fine?
[20:16] <juvani> looking for a web tool to schadule mysql db backups, something like backuppc for filesystems. Any ideas guys?
[20:17] <DocOC> reisio, yeah, I never use it tho. Vim or die.
[20:17] <reisio> juvani: why a web tool?
[20:17] <reisio> DocOC: hear hear
[20:17] <bekks> !hcl | wouter__
[20:17] <diphtherial> hmm, is there any way to tell from windows what the device name of this guy's hard disk will be?
[20:17] <reisio> diphtherial: not exactly
[20:17] <reisio> diphtherial: did you figure out if it was in fact one disk with both Windows and Ubuntu on it?
[20:18] <diphtherial> yes, it's the same physical drive; he installed it to a separate partition
[20:18] <juvani> reisio: easy to browse my backup history and do restore
[20:18] <diphtherial> he's also able to boot the live cd fwiw
[20:18] <reisio> diphtherial: did you try the boot repair stuff yet?
[20:20] <wouter__> Hardware comp list there does not seem to support a lot of newer hardware.
[20:20] <diphtherial> i believe he tried to reinstall grub, but for some reason the windows boot loader remains and just knocks him into windows on boot
[20:20] <diphtherial> he seems convinced that somthing in the BIOS is preventing modification of the bootloader
[20:21] <wouter__> Any known issues installing ubuntu on ssd's?
[20:21] <daftykins> nope
[20:21] <caskaid> does anyone know offhand the gnome3 hotkey that shows rings around the mouse cursor? Similar to the rings seen when you go to the activities hot corner?
[20:22] <reisio> diphtherial: that wouldn't be my first guess
[20:22] <wouter__> Any known issues using CPU's that support Intels HD4000?
[20:22] <reisio> diphtherial: if you can have him pastebin his /boot/grub/grub.cfg, his /etc/fstab, and the output of fdisk -l (or gdisk -l /dev/sda), we can rule some things out
[20:22] <DavidPesta> #php
[20:25] <d4rk0n3> need a little help... well more like a question if anyone could help me
[20:26] <BluesKaj> d4rk0n3, just ask
[20:26] <PoolShark_> can't help you if we don't know what the question is
[20:26] <markr> reisio;any ideas on the keyboard issue?
[20:26] <reisio> markr: backspace thing?
[20:26] <markr> reisio: yes
[20:26] <Lecter> hi
[20:27] <reisio> markr: did you ever 'define'?
[20:27] <reisio> Lecter: hi
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> wouter__: the default drivrr should run it ok
[20:27] <wouter__> ActionParsnip, Thanks
[20:28] <d4rk0n3> well its not really a issue but when I issue the ''netstat'' command i get this.  http://pastebin.com/4uWWMy2u What does it mean "?
[20:29] <markr>  reisio; when backspacing it skips the last letter then deletes the next i.e. hobbit would be hobbt with the cursor after the last b
[20:29] <diphtherial> hmm, is there a foolproof way for him to determine with /dev/sda* device is his windows drive? i believe he only has one physical drive in the machine
[20:29] <bekks> d4rk0n3: It tells you that some application is terminating communicating with IPv6 localhost Port 631.
[20:29] <diphtherial> not sure if he has external storage, but i can tell him to disconnect it
[20:29] <reisio> markr: that is weird
[20:30] <bekks> diphtherial: Take a look at sudo blkid -g
[20:30] <d4rk0n3> bekks,  i know but when i look into it it doesnt have a program associated to it
[20:30] <markr>  reisio also trying to put a colon left shift with ; outputs an 9 and scrolls up here
[20:30] <bekks> d4rk0n3: Because the network communication is terminating, and the application already terminated. The application on Port 631 is the webinterface of cups.
[20:31] <reisio> markr: no idea
[20:31] <markr> reisio tyvm
[20:32] <reisio> markr: works fine from live OS?
[20:32] <d4rk0n3> bekks,  oh so its os's doing ?
[20:32] <markr> reisio same issue in live os
[20:33] <markr> reisio i think its just a funky keyboard layout that may not be defined
[20:33] <markr> reisio the keys across the bottom are ctl fn windows alt space alt gr print ctrl arrow left arrow down arrow right
[20:33] <reisio> markr: you got a live OS that isn't Ubuntu?
[20:34] <markr> reisio no i do not. that was going to be my next step though
[20:34] <reisio> markr: http://www.sysresccd.org/
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: sudo parted -l
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: or mount the partitions and check. Ubuntu can read and write ntfs
[20:42] <bluefox83> is there a utility like fsck that can get the job done faster? i have a 1tb disk with errors that needs fixed >.>
[20:42] <bluefox83> thus far i let fsck run for 18 hours before i finally ended it, and it wasn't even finished checking the drive :(
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> blufox83: the drive speed will dictate speed
[20:42] <bluefox83> i know
[20:43] <daftykins> bluefox83: it's unmounted and not the booted disk i take it?
[20:43] <bekks> bluefox83: There is no other tool.
[20:43] <bluefox83> daftykins: of course
[20:43] <jrib> bluefox83: this is ext4?
[20:43] <bluefox83> eh, i think it might be ext3
[20:43] <diphtherial> ActionParsnip: ah, neat, thank you :)
[20:43] <bluefox83> it's been on there a few years sooooo...
[20:43] <jrib> bluefox83: apparently fsck on ext4 is supposed to be faster; not that that helps you now
[20:44] <Agamemnus> i'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I'm trying to enable copy/paste from Windows to my virtual Ubuntu box via Oracle's VM Virtualbox... and it's not working. Does anyone know what the problem could be?
[20:44] <bluefox83> jrib: i've read that as well
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> agamemnud: ask in #vbox too
[20:45] <bluefox83> so i'm using testdisk at the moment to try and see if it will repair anything...but i don't even know if it does what fsck does or not...
[20:45] <daftykins> Agamemnus: guest additions installed?
[20:45] <Agamemnus> just reading that
[20:45] <Agamemnus> but now I forgot how to actually install things
[20:46] <Agamemnus> too much stuff going on in my head
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> agamemnus: http://askubuntu.com/questions/73059/how-to-copy-paste-with-virtualbox-from-ubuntu-host-to-windows-guest
[20:46] <Agamemnus> i was trying "sudo install virtualbox-guest-additions"
[20:46] <Agamemnus> something is missing
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> agamemnus: command is wrong and the additions arent in the repos
[20:47] <Agamemnus> what should the command look like?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> ahamemnus: look in the top menu bar in the guest OS window
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> Agamemnus  sudo apt-get install .......
[20:47] <bluefox83> it's actually on the installation
[20:48] <Agamemnus> apt-get
[20:48] <bluefox83> or at least i think it is >.>
[20:48] <Agamemnus> it's downloading
[20:48] <Agamemnus> thanks
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> !info virtualbox-guest-additions
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> thought not
[20:51] <bluefox83> how do i find out if a disk is ext3 or ext4?
[20:51] <bekks> sudo blkid
[20:52] <bluefox83> k
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> blufox83: sudo parted -l
[20:52] <diphtherial> seems to be a popular answer lately
[20:52] <diphtherial> i didn't even know parted existed, would've saved me so much time in the past
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: are you aware of gparted?
[20:54] <bluefox83> now all i need to do is figure out how large a particular directory on that drive is, and then see if i have a spare HD i can use to move everything to (i doubt i have a drive large enough, but we'll see...) and then format that puppy to ext4
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> blufox83: du -sh /containing/folder
[20:54] <bluefox83> i guess i need to mount the drive before i do that?
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: will show the size of all files and foldes (total per folder) in /containing/folder
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: partition. you don't mount drives
[20:56] <diphtherial> oh, does the device have to be mounted for parted to display information about it?
[20:56] <bluefox83> no
[20:57] <diphtherial> aha, thanks
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: no, as long as the filesystem is visible it will be shown
[20:57] <bluefox83> also, i meant i just need a total size of a specific partition...not a list of sizes (i really hope that's why it's taking so long....)
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: then run: df -h
[20:58] <diphtherial> when booting from a live CD, is there a password for the root account?
[20:58] <bluefox83> how about a size of a directory?
[20:58] <diphtherial> er, or would you be prompted to type a password when using sudo?
[20:58] <reisio> diphtherial: you can set one if you feel the need
[20:58] <bluefox83> not the size of everything in a list...which is taking an awful long time O.o
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: no. you can get a root prompt with: sudo -i
[20:59] <diphtherial> ah, thanks, just making sure there aren't any unexpected impediments in the directions i'm giving this fellow
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: you can do anything in a livecd session you can in an installed OS but reboot
[21:01] <bluefox83> i wonder how long it would take to copy all of 230G to my laptop over my network...my router isn't very good >.>
[21:02] <FastCode> @bluefox:why not connect your laptop directly then?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: depends on lots of factors. do it overnight is how i'd do it
[21:02] <bluefox83> hrm.....i just had an idea >.>
[21:02] <FastCode> bluefox83: also you can gzip your data
[21:03] <bluefox83> what if i created another partition on the drive and copied it over, formatted the original partition to ext4, then copied everything back and resized the partition...would that erase my data? O.o
[21:04] <bluefox83> i only have 230G of data, and it's a 1tb drive....
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> if you are careful. no
[21:04] <reisio> bluefox83: you mean resized then copy everything back?
[21:04] <linuxliam> and recommendations for ftp uploading/downloading
[21:04] <bluefox83> yeah...
[21:04] <reisio> bluefox83: should be fine unless either drive fails physically :p
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: install openssh-server and use sftp
[21:05] <reisio> bluefox83: use rsync -av to be sure you copy it all properly
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: much more secure than an ftp server
[21:05] <ai6pg> cd
[21:05] <FastCode> and if using cp use the '--preserve=all' switch
[21:05] <reisio> which is to say it's secure at all ;)
[21:05] <bluefox83> OR, just create another partition...one way bigger but of ext4, then copy it all to that...then once the copying is done, just remove the old partition and resize the new one to just take up all the space?
[21:05] <reisio> don't use cp for 230GB of data ;p
[21:06] <linuxliam> ActionParsnip: im not looking to run an ftp server only connect to one
[21:06] <FastCode> reisio: why?
[21:06] <bluefox83> keep in mind i'm talking about moving data from one partition to another, on the same disk >.>
[21:06] <zangaroo> reisio, whats the alternative ?
[21:06] <zangaroo> rsync ?
[21:06] <reisio> bluefox83: you could, but if you have the space, not resizing the final partition at all is bestest
[21:06] <reisio> zangaroo: yeah
[21:06] <djzn> is there any software engineering channel in freenode?
[21:06] <reisio> FastCode: 'cause if it's interrupted you're boned
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: so a client, not a server?
[21:06] <reisio> FastCode: and there's no simple way to verify it copied regardless
[21:06] <linuxliam> yea
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> djzn: ##programming
[21:07] <djzn> ActionParsnip, thanks
[21:07] <FastCode> reisio: no you are not, you can simply continue with -n
[21:07] <reisio> you can re-run the same rsync command to both 1) verify everything is copied and 2) to resume if interruptred
[21:07] <reisio> FastCode: nope
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: why did you not say client then?
[21:07] <FastCode> now that i think about it, I'm not sure if it resumes the last file
[21:07] <reisio> -n doesn't care if files match or not, only if they already exist
[21:07]  * zangaroo never learned rsync
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: ftp isnt just a client. it is a server too
[21:07] <reisio> zangaroo: rsync -av foo bar, all there is to it
[21:07] <reisio> without -v is a little faster, for those long ones
[21:08] <linuxliam> ActionParsnip: i know sorry long day over here
[21:08] <zangaroo> how does rsync verify ?
[21:08] <bluefox83> foo is the origin, and bar being the target?
[21:08] <reisio> zangaroo: just run the same command again
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: so a "recommendation for ftp upload/download" does not distinguish you wanted a client
[21:08] <zangaroo> i mean does it use md5 ?
[21:08] <reisio> zangaroo: by default it checks if the files exist, copies them if they don't, finishes copying them if they weren't fully copied
[21:08] <reisio> zangaroo: good question
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: nautilus can connect to ftp and files will appear like files on your pc
[21:09] <reisio> zangaroo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync#Determining_which_parts_of_a_file_have_changed maybe
[21:09] <reisio> it uses something :)
[21:09] <bluefox83> linuxliam: filezilla is also kinda ok...
[21:09] <reisio> bluefox83: yes indeed, source, destination
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: ftp sends usename, password and data as plain text. I suggest you dont use it over the web
[21:09] <linuxliam> ActionParsnip: nautilus just seems to crash or just not display anything at all
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: why bother, nautilus connect to ftp and is in a default install
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: gftp or filezilla then
[21:10] <bluefox83> reisio: and that's totally recurvise? i have a loooooot of files and directories in a particular dir
[21:10] <reisio> bluefox83: yup
[21:10] <zangaroo> reisio, nice looks like using rsync from now on
[21:10] <reisio> bluefox83: try it out on a test dir
[21:10] <reisio> zangaroo: yes sir
[21:10] <Lecter> hello, is there a reason why I must put the ubuntu cd romwhen im using synaptic?
[21:10] <reisio> and if you're interested in _incremental_ backups, check out rdiff-backup, which is basically just rsync for incremental backups :p
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> lecter: remove the cd as a package source
[21:11] <reisio> Lecter: pardon?
[21:11] <daftykins> Lecter: sounds like the CD source hasn't been disabled, you might be able to disable the CD source in software sources
[21:11] <bluefox83> hrm...gonna have to get X running on that machine so i can use gparted and create that new partition....
[21:12] <ikonia> bluefox83: you could use parted or fdisk to save installing X
[21:12] <Lecter> how do I remove the cd source in softwares sources?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> lecter: or edit sources.list and comment out the top few lines.
[21:12] <Lecter> how do I remove the cd from the sources?
[21:13] <bluefox83> uh...wouldn't it just be hella easier to say open "software source" in software center and unselect the cdrom?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> lecter: or software centre can do it. no idea why you are using synaptic when softwarecentre does everything you can need
[21:13] <linuxliam> ActionParsnip: im not the admin for the server so im not too fussed as no sensitive data is there
[21:13] <FastCode> Lecter: /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:13] <Lecter> software center doesnt allow librairies management for development
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> lecter: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the top few lines
[21:13] <FastCode> Lecter: remove the line starting with cdrom
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 12.10 _Quantal Quetzal_ - Alpha amd64 (20120724.2)]/ dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> for example... ;)
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> first line here
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: their funeral.
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> for some reason i seem to have more then one.
[21:15] <bluefox83> so, i'm installing ubuntu-desktop (since i know that's not a real package, it just gets a desktop up and running) i'm wondering how do i get rid of all that junk once i'm done with it?
[21:15] <linuxliam> ActionParsnip: hehe he's a windows user
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> bluefox83:  what junk.. remove what you dont need later with the package manager tools
[21:15] <bluefox83> would sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop work?
[21:15] <Csabi33669> hello,im using lubuntu and i installed right now the compiz evrithing is works fine,but when i connect external monitor to my laptop it will very laggy about 1fps .can anyone add me a advice what should i do?
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> Csabi33669:  whats your video card  chipset and what driver are you using?
[21:16] <bluefox83> Csabi33669: you can start by installing the proper video card drivers...
[21:16] <bluefox83> which can be...rediculously over complicated anymore >.>
[21:17] <bluefox83> wow, just checking out what is getting installed on my box makes me miss debian D:
[21:17] <chocolate> Hi, everyone! I'm having a problem, I have `a problem running intellijIDEA on Ubuntu
[21:18] <Csabi33669> Dr_Willis, my video card is intel gma 945,how can idecide what my vga driver is corrently using?
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> Csabi33669:  intel should be allready installed by default.
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> Csabi33669:  im not clear on how you are using compiz in lubuntu, (or why you would want to actually)
[21:18] <chocolate> It doesn't start.
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: sounds about right. i suggest you inform him how secure ftp isnt
[21:18] <bluefox83> what the heck is intellijIDEA? O.o
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> chocolate:  run it from terminal, look for error messages
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: ubuntu is based on debian, so how can you miss it?
[21:19] <chocolate> I get the error "No Java JDK found"
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> !java | chocolate
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> so install a JDK ;P
[21:19] <bluefox83> ActionParsnip: ubuntu comes with a LOOOOT of stuff that i don't want...
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> !mini | bluefox83
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> chocolate: try the webupd8 java ppa for oracle java
[21:20] <Csabi33669> Dr_Willis, just because i liked a video about the compiz on youtube
[21:20] <bluefox83> yeah..uh i was referring to just doing apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:20] <chocolate> java version "1.8.0-ea" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0-ea-b100) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.0-b42, mixed mode)
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: its still debian based
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> Csabi33669:  id disable compiz. and se eif it works properly
[21:20] <chocolate> That is my Java verizon
[21:20] <bluefox83> ActionParsnip: i know, which is why i do still like ubuntu
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> bluefox83:  you told it to install that extra stuff.. so its doing what you told it to do. ;P
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: you can use mini install and build up from clu
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> cli
[21:21] <bluefox83> Dr_Willis: of course, i told it to install whatever the default is that comes with "ubuntu-desktop" i just forgot how much stuff comes with it
[21:21] <Csabi33669> Dr_Willis, it's seems like i have to disable it (when i disable it works perfect)
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: i use minimal then install xdm and openbox
[21:22] <bluefox83> cool
[21:23] <bluefox83> this isn't as painful as installing debian from floppies back in 2003 though...that sucked sooooooooooooo much >.>
[21:23] <bluefox83> i didn't have a cd/dvd burner at the time...hehe
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: i was on mandrake then. on cd
[21:23] <bluefox83> i used that too!
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> Csabi33669:  compiz on Lubuntu is like big fancy muffler/airdams and spoilers... on a Geometro....
[21:24] <bluefox83> i broke mandrake so many times >.>
[21:24] <bluefox83> lol Dr_Willis
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> Csabi33669:  i find that things tend to work a lot better if you stick to the defaults. :) untill you get the fundamentals learned. then you can start playing with things
 that is such a good anology
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> chocolate:  but i bet most kids these days dont know what a 'geo metro' is ;)
[21:25] <chocolate> My friend used to drive one
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> Wife still misses her old Geo.. :P
[21:25] <chocolate> I miss it even thought it wasn't mine
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> Im old.. and need to update my Analogys..
[21:25] <sagredo> hi
[21:25] <bluefox83> you know, for such a small 4 cylinder car...you would think those things would be better on gas and be a bit more dependable...
[21:25] <sagredo> can someone please help me manually mount an external HD
[21:25] <sagredo> i am having some difficulty
[21:25] <chocolate> What would be the modern Geo?
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  what are you doing to mount it exactly?
[21:26] <sagredo> Dr_Willis:  i am stressing big time my friend
[21:26] <bluefox83> eh, the modern geometro is actually quite nice >.>
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: what filesystem does the partition use?
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  so mount it by hand/cli and give us the error messages  and command you are using
[21:26] <bluefox83> the old 90's ones were death traps though >.>
[21:26] <sagredo> Dr_Willis: normally i just connect my HD via USB but Ubuntu is saying DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.Failed: An operation is already pending
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  dont rely on the auto-mounting stuff. :) do it the old skool way
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[21:27] <chocolate> Have you turned off your computer and turned it on again?
[21:27] <Dr_Willis> sudo mkdir /media/TestDrive
[21:27] <sagredo> Dr_Willis: okay, may you suggest a guide?
[21:27] <sagredo> right
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: when you last unplugged it, did you use the safe removal before physically unplugging it?
[21:27] <Dr_Willis> sudo mount /dev/sdXX  /media/TestDrive -o OPTIONS YOU MAY NEED GO HERE
[21:27] <sagredo> ActionParsnip: of course not
[21:27] <bluefox83> chocolate: whoa! this ain't windows!
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: then thats why
[21:27] <sagredo> ActionParsnip: I tried copying a .mkv file
[21:27] <chocolate> It helps a little
[21:27] <chocolate> It's always a good thing to try
[21:27] <Csabi33669> Dr_Willis,  ok :)
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: you need to use that feature. its not there for kicks you knoe
[21:27] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  if you could see files.. then it was Mounted.. so you need to give us a bit more details as whats going on exactly.
[21:28] <sagredo> Dr_Willis:  im trying to keep up
[21:28] <sagredo> I apoligize
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: it syncs caches and so forth. thats why there is an "operation pending"
[21:28] <sagredo> the last time i came here for help
[21:28] <sagredo> someone said i would have better luck in the liveCD
[21:28] <sagredo> so thats where i am
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  if its a windows/ntfs drive. you might want to boot to windows and have windows 'check' the disk for errors.
[21:29] <sagredo> Dr_Willis: IIRC the filesystem was NTFS-quick
[21:29] <sagredo> or something
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: the os is the same in livecd
[21:29] <sagredo> Dr_Willis:
[21:29] <sagredo> when i plug it into windows it asks me to format the disc
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: is it ntfs based?
[21:29] <sagredo> but i have 700GB of data
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  if the ntfs is flagged as 'unmounted uncleanly' ubuntu may refue to mount it.
[21:29] <sagredo> my entire life
[21:29] <bluefox83> so i'm wondering, would it just be faster to plug a usb live ubuntu into that machine, and boot into that and use gparted, or should i really just make it install all this junk? >.>
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: is there a backup?
[21:29] <sagredo> Dr_Willis: i think i am starting to understand
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  format? that may mean the FS or disk is totally messed up
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: is it ntfs based?
[21:29] <sagredo> ActionParsnip: yes
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: is there a backup?
[21:30] <sagredo> no
[21:30] <bluefox83> sagredo: you might be screwed D:
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: so why is your "important" data not baked up?
[21:30] <sagredo> its a brand new drive
[21:30] <sagredo> ActionParsnip: im on a college budget
[21:30] <bluefox83> then how does it have 700gb of data on it already!?!
[21:30] <Agamemnus> hello
[21:30] <sagredo> i cant afford another backup drive right now
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> brand new things can break
[21:30] <sagredo> it was a gift
[21:30] <Agamemnus> how do I install the 64-bit version of the mysql client?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: if it is ntfs based. plug it into a windows pc and run a full chkdsk
[21:31] <sagredo> ActionParsnip: are you sure?
[21:31] <sagredo> if the problem arose in Ubuntu
[21:31] <sagredo> while copying a TV epsidoe
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> Agamemnus:  if you have 64 bit ubuntu installed.. then  it should be using 64bit for all the packages
[21:31] <bluefox83> sagredo: you might want to try an app i found today called testdisk
[21:31] <chocolate> Well I have had bad luck once I droped my phone in water, then the backup, and then the backup of the backup i had didn't work and then I lost so much school
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: when it finishes. look in the system tray and safely remove the storage like yoy are SUPPOSED to. then unplug
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  hd fails. it fails.. or starts failing.. os dosent matter.
[21:31] <Agamemnus> maybe that's not what I need
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: it will work
[21:31] <Agamemnus> the error message in my compile is:
[21:32] <sagredo> ActionParsnip:
[21:32] <Agamemnus> "ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient"
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: if you mistreat your hardware you cannot intelligently expect it to wor
[21:32] <sagredo> how do I run CHKDSK?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> work
[21:32] <bluefox83> chocolate: did you like, drive a geo metro into a house of mirrors or something? that's terrible luck D:
[21:32] <sagredo> ActionParsnip:
[21:32] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  you may want to be trying to recover/repair the disk in windows. since its ntfs. and ask about it in #windows
[21:32] <sagredo> that is excellent advice
[21:32] <sagredo> you are wise beyond your cycles
[21:32] <chocolate> lol It was bad but the professor had the deadline extended for everyone
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> its possible you can force it to mount in linux. its also possible it may  have some severe issues
[21:33] <sagredo> ActionParsnip:
[21:33] <sagredo> how do i run CHKDSK in windows?
[21:33] <sagredo> im on win7
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: well you get a lot of people doing this stuff. its common for windows users because, honestly, they know very little about thier OS
[21:33] <sagredo> again
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  theres the #windows channel
[21:33] <sagredo> i deifnitely do not want to format the drive
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: and what needs to happen to make things work well
[21:33] <chocolate> I remember I helped someone recover their drive after they formated it
[21:33] <k1l> sagredo: for windows support please ask in ##windows
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> if windiows keeps asking to format the disk.. you may need to use some other tools in windows
[21:33] <bluefox83> this is already going better than it was a few days ago...at first i couldn't even get ubuntu to start...appartently when /boot is full it causes a lot of problems >.>
[21:34] <sagredo> ok sweet
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: right click the storage -> properties -> tools
[21:34] <sagredo> ok
[21:34] <sagredo> will try
[21:34] <sagredo> best regards
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: safe removal in ANY OS is important
[21:34] <sagredo> i never knew Unix even had an otpion
[21:34] <sagredo> I always safely remove in Windows
[21:34] <sagredo> and never have any problems
[21:34] <Agamemnus> anyone? is lmysqlclient the mysqlclient?
[21:34] <sagredo> but Linux just fucked this drive
[21:34] <Agamemnus> and if so how do i install it?
[21:34] <bluefox83> linux didn't, you did
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: really easy to avoid yet people still uust pull storage out and then moan when their data gets damaged
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: no. YOU did by misusing it
[21:35] <chocolate> Yeah that's true
[21:35] <bluefox83> i need to add a few more gigs of ram to that server...1 gig just isn't cutting it D:
[21:35] <sagredo> ActionParsnip:
[21:35] <sagredo> relax man
[21:35] <chocolate> It's like when I dropped my phone in water
[21:35] <sagredo> dont scare people away from Linux just because you think you are a know it all
[21:35] <chocolate> It was all me
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: when it mounts, you will see the partition in the Unity panel as well as in nautilus
[21:36] <sagredo> all I did was START COPYING a file
[21:36] <sagredo> and it stopped at 6mb of 900
[21:36] <k1l> !ot | chocolate bluefox83
[21:36] <bluefox83> chocolate: was it an android?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: just educating you so your apparently important data doesnt get lost
[21:36] <sagredo> ActionParsnip: you are not being helpful trying to force people into being wrong
[21:36] <sagredo> I was copying a file
[21:36] <diphtherial> sagredo: you're the one asking for help, remember?
[21:36] <bluefox83> i think it's a little too late for the lecture, when it's already broke >.>
[21:37] <sagredo> diphtherial: you are so smart
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: check your data and eject it properly and I bet it works just fine
[21:37] <bluefox83> sagredo: seriously though try testdisk, it works on ntfs drives :)
[21:37] <k1l> sagredo: we can stop that who is to blame for your data loss. just ask the windows support in ##windows if you want to support for that
[21:37] <diphtherial> sagredo: actually, i'm as much as a noob as you are, but i try not to let my feelings of inadequacy get in the way...
[21:37] <diphtherial> but yeah, pointless discussion, i agree
[21:37] <sagredo> lol
[21:37] <bluefox83> and testdisk is in the ubuntu repos :)
[21:38] <chocolate> So, I'm in Ubuntu and I can't seem to get it a build environment  ? Would anyone have any ideas? Pretty please?
[21:38] <bluefox83> what kind of build environment?
[21:38] <chocolate> I'm sorry I worded it wrong
[21:38] <sagredo> this just popped up
[21:38] <sagredo>  Input/output error NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot into Windows twice. The usage of the /f parameter is very
[21:38] <chocolate> Java
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: chkdsk and safe removal is a lot easier. if you still get issues i would start with the forensic tools
[21:38] <sagredo> anything worth taking note of before i move to windows?
[21:38] <chocolate> I'm trying to get Eclipse
[21:38] <bluefox83> oh, uhm...yeah let me think about it a minute though
[21:38] <sagredo> ActionParsnip: cheers
[21:38] <ikonia> sagredo: do what it told you to do
[21:38] <ikonia> sagredo: run chkdisk about it
[21:38] <ikonia> on it
[21:39] <ikonia> chkdsk even
[21:39] <bluefox83> i chkdsk wont work on ntfs to my knowledge >.>
[21:39] <sagredo> ikonia: in windows or ubuntu?
[21:39] <ikonia> sagredo: it's giving you the information to try to help you
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: let us know how you get on
[21:39] <ikonia> sagredo: in windows
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: chkdsk in windows
[21:39] <sagredo> ikonia: ok thanks
[21:39] <ikonia> sagredo: it's a windows command, for a windows file system, so doing it in windows is the best approach
[21:39] <sagredo> just writing down the mount notes from Dr_Willis
[21:39] <bluefox83> sagredo: what is more convenient, using windows to check it, or ubuntu?
[21:39] <sagredo> ikonia: right ;D
[21:39] <chocolate> I know I managed to get Sublime Text 3 to compile and run Java but I can't make Eclipse compile
[21:39] <sagredo> bluefox83: i perfer using Linux
[21:39] <bluefox83> sagredo: then use checkdisk
[21:40] <sagredo> but obviously it comes with more responsibility
[21:40] <chocolate> I then tried Intellij and it didn't work
[21:40] <k1l> !details | chocolate
[21:40] <sagredo> nah
[21:40] <sagredo> im going to use chkdsk
[21:40] <bluefox83> also, checkdisk has a windows version too :)
[21:40] <chocolate> It doesn't even start up
[21:40] <sagredo> seems pretty unanimous among the support crew here
[21:40] <bluefox83> sagredo: but er, testdisk
[21:40] <bluefox83> sagredo: testdisk will run in ubuntu, and it gets great reviews
[21:40] <sagredo> eh :/
[21:40] <sagredo> not confident
[21:41] <k1l> sagredo: last warning now to stop that attitude against the volunteering supporters in here
[21:41] <bluefox83> why am i trying to get you to use that? >.> lol
[21:41] <ikonia> sagredo: for windows problems, use windows to fix, no better solution
[21:41] <bluefox83> afk switching boxes a while
[21:41] <sagredo> bluefox83: its to know about it than not IMO :)
[21:41] <bluefox83> testdisk is for like...all OS's
[21:41] <sagredo> its better to know*
[21:41] <bluefox83> afk
[21:43] <hosj> ./
[21:43] <chocolate> I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 and when I try to start from terminal idea-ic it gives me the error "No Java JDK found" .
[21:44] <daftykins> chocolate: sounds like you need to install a java development kit.
[21:44] <chocolate> Then I try to start Intellij and it won't run or start
[21:44] <chocolate> I do and I'm pretty sure I have it installed
[21:44] <daftykins> the oracle one?
[21:44] <chocolate> When I run java -version I get java version "1.8.0-ea" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0-ea-b100) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.0-b42, mixed mode)
[21:45] <daftykins> chocolate: that's a JRE, you can't develop with a runtime
[21:45] <daftykins> chocolate: follow this: http://www.n00bsonubuntu.net/content/how-to-install-oracle-java-jdk-6-7-8-on-ubuntu-13-04/
[21:47] <chocolate> I can use other Java development IDES like Sublime Text 3 and Dr. Java
[21:47] <daftykins> perhaps they somehow don't rely upon the JDK being on
[21:48] <daftykins> chocolate: is there a reason you aren't willing to try that?
[21:48] <chocolate> No, I am
[21:48] <chocolate> I'm just making small talk
[21:48] <chocolate> Well not small talk
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> chocolate:  sounds like  the program in question may have some settings to point it to the JDK
[21:49] <chocolate> It still gives me No JDK found.
[21:49] <chocolate> It won't start from the Menu bar
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> chocolate: are there any guides you have used? are there bugs reported?
[21:50] <jonasty123dm> chocolate: maybe you can try Brackets? It's made by Adobe and the community, it's open source. Here's a review + download link: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/first-look-at-brackets-for-linux
[21:52] <chocolate> No bugs I've not reported any bugs. I have used many guied
[21:52] <chocolate> guides
[21:52] <chocolate> Has anyone tried brackets for Java development?
[21:53] <jonasty123dm> I tried running it on Debian x64, but it won't run :( So I don't know, but it seems quite nice
[21:54] <chocolate> I've been using Sublime Text 3. Have you tried that on Ubuntu?
[21:56] <jonasty123dm> No,  but I don't do much programming, only basic stuff.
[21:56] <usr13> jonasty123dm: ia32-libs
[21:56] <chocolate> ah okay
[21:57] <jonasty123dm> usr13: thank you I will try installing the ia32-libs :)
[21:57] <usr13> jonasty123dm: package name = ia32-libs-multiarch
[21:58] <chocolate> :-( Brackets won't open either
[21:58] <jonasty123dm> chocolate: when I was running Ubuntu, I installed Oracle's Java via a PPA from Webupd8. I don't know if this will help, but here's a link anyway: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[21:58] <jonasty123dm> usr13: thank you :)
[21:59] <bluefox83> ok, so how do i make gparted NOT analyze and try to repair my drive when it's resizing the partition?
[21:59] <chocolate> Everyone I'm very thankful for the help I am getting
[22:01] <guntbert> bluefox83: you don't - resize operations with a damaged file system are even more dangerous :)
[22:02] <bluefox83> guntbert: surely there's a way
[22:03] <bluefox83> i just want to resize the dang partition D:
[22:04] <jonasty123dm> bluefox83: have you tried checking you're file system/ hard drive with a live CD like partedmagic? They provide useful tools for recovering data and such
[22:04] <jonasty123dm> *your
[22:04] <bluefox83> not interested in that, i want to change from ext3 to ext4 without losing my data....
[22:04] <[Gentoo]> jonasty123dm: did you know they charge for that now
[22:05] <jonasty123dm> Gentoo: Really? Didn't know that
[22:05] <russw> I'm really struggling with ufw and iptables.  ufw *should* be easy, but whenever I enable it it locks out my ssh (on port 1022) and even seems to be preventing outgoing from my server.
[22:05] <russw> anyone have  clue what's up with my ufw/iptables?  see here: http://paste.debian.net/plainh/27accb6b
[22:06] <[Gentoo]> russw: ufw enable 1022/tcp
[22:06] <[Gentoo]> should work
[22:06] <[Gentoo]> check with iptables -L
[22:06] <inclusa> Hello, I use Vim but I research Sublime, ang I ask: Why do I use Sublime? What is it diferent?
[22:06] <russw> [Gentoo]: I've done that.  the iptables -L (and ufw status verbose) are in that pastebin
[22:06] <[Gentoo]> inclusa: its a gui editor, its nice but not free
[22:07] <[Gentoo]> russw: i didnt get the paste ive not long joined
[22:07] <russw> [Gentoo]: http://paste.debian.net/plainh/27accb6b
[22:07] <jonasty123dm> bluefox: can you acces the partition?
[22:07] <bluefox83> jonasty123dm: yeah
[22:07] <inclusa> Ok, thanks
[22:08] <[Gentoo]> russw: check the sshd config? or router?
[22:08] <jonasty123dm> I think the best thing you can do is copying all your data over to an external hard drive or something and then format your partition in ext4
[22:08] <bluefox83> i have data on the partition, i want to shrink the partition, create a new one of ext4 and resize that
[22:08] <diphtherial> huh, so he has only a single physical drive, and he did attempt to fix grub by chrooting to /mnt and running grub-install from there
[22:08] <diphtherial> (essentially what they describe here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video )
[22:09] <[Gentoo]> russw: o hang on
[22:09] <diphtherial> it still just uses the regular windows bootloader and boots him into windows without giving him a choice
[22:09] <russw> [Gentoo]: no router... this is on a vps.  sshd config seems fine since it works fine prior to ufw enabling.
[22:09] <reisio> diphtherial: not really sure why that would work if it failed from the installer
[22:09] <[Gentoo]> russw: ufw dont seem to have affected iptables
[22:09] <reisio> diphtherial: if you can have him pastebin his /boot/grub/grub.cfg, his /etc/fstab, and the output of fdisk -l (or gdisk -l /dev/sda), we can rule some things out
[22:10] <diphtherial> i don't think he has a network connection when he's booting from the live cd
[22:10] <diphtherial> apparently it doesn't recognize his wired ethernet adapter
[22:10] <russw> [Gentoo]: that is my thought as well... I can't see 1022 in the iptables at all
[22:10] <diphtherial> he has this motherboard, if that helps at all: http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4482#ov
[22:10] <affine> hi everyone
[22:11] <affine> How can I go about making a bootable usb stick from any given iso?
[22:11] <[Gentoo]> russw: nothing seems to be affected in iptables there, not sure what got messed up
[22:11] <inclusa> Gentoo, I wanted to know what it makes the diferent why use it? Thank you
[22:11] <jonasty123dm> affine: are you running windows?
[22:11] <[Gentoo]> russw: i would try to remove ufw, remove all the related files, flush all iptables and try again
[22:11] <affine> jonasty123dm, ubuntu. my usb stick is in /dev/sdd1. I already tried using dd, but system monitor showed dd wasn't doing anything when I tried it.
[22:11] <russw> [Gentoo]: done that several times already :)
[22:11] <[Gentoo]> russw: or, just use iptables
[22:11] <affine> I tried dd if=~/path/to/iso.iso of=/dev/sdd1 and that didn't work :(
[22:12] <russw> [Gentoo]: my thinking is that there's some iptables config happening somewhere else that is overriding ufw
[22:12] <russw> [Gentoo]: I've also started trying to get into iptables directly, but ufw is (supposed to be) just so darn easy
[22:12] <[Gentoo]> russw: seems like it but would be weird unless you had some manual script, and the fact ufw has created some chains in there
[22:13] <diphtherial> reisio: i'm asking him if he can print those out
[22:13] <affine> jonasty123dm, I'll just boot into windows and use a different program...
[22:13] <[Gentoo]> russw: iptables is easy for a basic setup just takes a day or 2 to learn
[22:13] <jonasty123dm> affine: are you sure the path to your USB stick is /dev/sdd1? Run lsblk -f in a terminal window
[22:13] <diphtherial> the whole thing's a bit awkward since he's throwing a party that i declined attending :\
[22:13] <[Gentoo]> russw: but ufw should work
[22:13] <russw> [Gentoo]: all I really need is a few ports open, and some standard iptables rules.  Seems to be begging for ufw (or a simple iptables basis)
[22:13] <reisio> diphtherial: could save them to files on the Windows sytem, but I s'pose that'd be extra effort
[22:13] <jonasty123dm> affine: and check if your USB stick isn't something like /dev/sdc1. Most USB's are /dev/sdc1
[22:14] <[Gentoo]> russw: check ufw stuff in /etc
[22:14] <[Gentoo]> russw: theres some manual stuff that can be done in there
[22:14] <diphtherial> reisio: well, hopefully he has a network connection and can pastebin them; we'll see, i suppose
[22:14] <diphtherial> thank you for your continuing help as well
[22:14] <[Gentoo]> when you removed ufw, did you remove all the configs?
[22:14] <sagredo> hello support: windows does not detect my drive at all
[22:14] <russw> [Gentoo]: it has to be outside of there.  I've purged all of ufw and started fresh and it does the smae
[22:14] <sagredo> so I tried 'testdisc'
[22:15] <sagredo> it is asking for my partition, how can I find that out?
[22:15] <jonasty123dm> bluefox: so you want to shrink a partition, and with the free space you've become, you want to create a new EXT4 partition? Sorry for late reply
[22:15] <sagredo> "please select partition table type"
[22:15] <sagredo> how can I list this?
[22:15] <jonasty123dm> bluefox83 : so you want to shrink a partition, and with the free space you've become, you want to create a new EXT4 partition? Sorry for late reply
[22:16] <[Gentoo]> russw: not sure what else to suggest
[22:16] <russw> [Gentoo]: ok - thx anyway.
[22:16] <[Gentoo]> russw: if you get some time, iptables is good to learn though
[22:16] <[Gentoo]> you have much more direct control
[22:17] <russw> [Gentoo]: my fear in doing it manually is manyfold.  a) missing "good" config that ufw et al would do b) issues blending iptables and fail2ban/psad, etc, and c) complexity
[22:29] <Gerowen> What is the minimum amount of RAM required for Ubuntu 13.04 to be installed?  I've found some system requirements but the page looks rather old.  The reason I'm asking is I used the "Startup Disc Creator" to create an Ubuntu installer on my thumb drive, I've booted from it, but it seems to have frozen at the "ubuntu" logo and the little dots.  The dots are animating, but they have been for about 20 minutes now with no progress.
[22:29] <[Gentoo]> Gerowen: i would say ~2gb
[22:29] <[Gentoo]> for full ubuntu
[22:29] <Gerowen> That's what I was thinking, this computer only has 1 GB
[22:30] <MonkeyDust> !requirements | Gerowen start here
[22:30] <[Gentoo]> Gerowen: go for lighter installer and DE
[22:30] <palomer> External connections to my local http server are failing
[22:30] <[Gentoo]> text insaller on lubuntu or something
[22:30] <palomer> but internal connections aren't
[22:30] <palomer> does ubuntu install a firewall by default?
[22:30] <[Gentoo]> palomer: ufw
[22:30] <Gerowen> K, appreciate it everybody.
[22:30] <[Gentoo]> i think its disabled on default though
[22:31] <Gerowen> palomer: There is a firewall, but it runs in the background.  If you want to manage it with a GUI, check out gufw
[22:31] <MonkeyDust> palomer  ubuntu has iptables, better ask in #ubuntu-server
[22:31] <jonasty123dm> palomer: yes, but you have to activate it manually
[22:31] <reisio> Gerowen: 1GB should be fine
[22:31] <reisio> Gerowen: moreso if you use a DE other than the default
[22:32] <palomer> oh, so by default I should be able to accept connections
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> palomer:  theres no default firewall rules to block anything
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> palomer:  any service should work.
[22:39] <palomer> got it
[22:39] <palomer> thanks
[22:43] <Moony22> Hello
[22:43] <reisio> 'lo
[22:44] <FastCode> reisio: still copying?
[22:45] <Moony22> I have installed unity from the experimental certified ppa. After rebooting, unity is my starting. There is a segmentation fault after loading one if the plugin. Is there any way to fix this issue without in installing the new unity?
[22:45] <FastCode> reisio: it was you with the 230 GiB?right?i tend to have a lousy short term memory
[22:45] <Moony22> Uninstalling *
[22:46] <FastCode> Moony22: if you think its a configuration issue then better purge it
[22:46] <reisio> FastCode: sure
[22:46] <reisio> FastCode: oh no
[22:46] <reisio> FastCode: was talking to the guy
[22:47] <reisio> FastCode: bluefox83 maybe
[22:47] <MonkeyDust> Moony22  what's the outcome of     cat /etc/issue ?
[22:47] <FastCode> reisio: right, i remember the number 83
[22:47] <reisio> don't we all
[22:47] <Moony22> FastCode, I'm somewhat new to PPA's, what does purging do?
[22:47] <FastCode> apt-get --purge remove unity
[22:48] <Moony22> What does it do?
[22:48] <FastCode> it purges the configuration files
[22:49] <FastCode> the output should be something like this:
[22:49] <Moony22> What does purging mean? :p
[22:49] <OerHeks> reversing the PPA installation
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> purge = to remove in an extreme manor.
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[22:50] <Moony22> Heh
[22:50] <FastCode> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[22:50] <FastCode>   lightdm-remote-session-uccsconfigure* ubuntu-desktop* unity* unity-tweak-tool*
[22:50] <FastCode> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 137 not upgraded.
[22:50] <FastCode> After this operation, 7,342 kB disk space will be freed.
[22:50] <FastCode> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
[22:50] <FloodBot1> FastCode: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:50] <lauratika> in system monitor i have for cpu showing use, why 4?
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> purge:  Noun:  to rid of whatever is impure or undesirable; cleanse; purify.
[22:50] <Moony22> But is there no way to fix this issue without reverting?
[22:51] <FastCode> note the asterisk
[22:51] <MonkeyDust> Moony22  Unity comes with ubuntu, why did you use a ppa?
[22:52] <Moony22> I wanted the experimental-certified version
[22:52] <Moony22> Want *
[22:52] <OerHeks> the ppa owner would love to hear your bugreport for that failing plugin
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> experimental and certified! ;)  wonder what that really means..
[22:53] <MonkeyDust> Moony22  what OerHeks says, inform the maintainer about the issues you're getting with the ppa
[22:54] <Moony22> But the owner is ubuntu unity
[22:54] <FastCode> so inform ubuntu unity
[22:55] <Moony22> ... But it is certified :p
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> Moony22  the ppa is maintained and owned by a person, contact that person
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> Moony22  where did you find the ppa?
[22:55] <Moony22> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/experimental-certified
[22:55] <Dr_Willis> i figuerd it was the official 'testing' branch of unity, by the ubuntu devs. but ive never really heard of anyone else using it befor
[22:56] <Moony22> This is your 'person'
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> Daily build of a feature stack certified by tests.
[22:56] <Moony22> Yep
[22:56] <FastCode> quote:"For questions and bugs with software in this PPA please contact Ubuntu Unity PS integration team."
[22:57] <MonkeyDust> Moony22  "For questions and bugs with software in this PPA please contact Ubuntu Unity PS integration team."
[22:57] <Moony22> Heh
[22:57] <MonkeyDust> FastCode  was faster :)
[22:57] <exidos> hehe
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> 0 updates added during the past month.
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> err.. so how can it be daily.. with no updates?
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> latest update = 15 weeks ago
[22:58] <Moony22> How do I contact?
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> I think i would be avoiding that ppa. ;)
[22:58] <FastCode> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+contactuser
[22:58] <tenguix> Any xfce users here
[22:58] <Moony22> That redirects to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity
[22:58] <reisio> tenguix: mmm
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> For questions and bugs with software in this PPA please contact Ubuntu Unity PS integration team.
[22:59] <OerHeks> Moony22, why don't you try this ppa, more cutting edge as you are testing now > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/experimental-prevalidation
[22:59] <Moony22> OerHeks, isn't this more likely to have bugs
[22:59] <tenguix> cool. Is there a way to work around the introduction of gconf to the mix at ubuntu 13
[23:00] <tenguix> The terminal upgrade switches over to that horrible timestamped bs.
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> tenguix:  what timestamped?
[23:00] <tenguix> xfce4-terminal
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> care to be a bit more specific? theres also the #xubuntu channel
[23:00] <tenguix> The quake-ish feature uses a gconf config.
[23:01] <tenguix> Oh, I'll head on over there
[23:01] <tenguix> Graci
[23:01] <reisio> tenguix: what's the problem?
[23:01] <tenguix> Not really a problem, just me being picky
[23:01] <tenguix> :)
[23:01] <reisio> tenguix: about what?
[23:01] <tenguix> xfce4
[23:01] <tenguix> and gconf.
[23:01] <tenguix> i like xfconf.
[23:01] <reisio> you still have xfconf
[23:01] <reisio> gconf is used for other things you installed
[23:02] <tenguix> Nope.
[23:02] <reisio> yes
[23:02]  * Dr_Willis still hasent actaully seen what the actual Problem is...
[23:02] <tenguix> Currently, yes. I'm using 12.10
[23:02] <reisio> there isn't one
[23:02] <reisio> tenguix: nope
[23:02] <tenguix> Allright, well youve been so helpful!
[23:02] <reisio> the only way you don't have xfconf is if your system is missing a dep on accident
[23:02] <tenguix> I have xfconf.
[23:03] <reisio> I know you do, I just said so :p
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> !find xfconf
[23:03] <tenguix> Alright, let me start over.
[23:03] <reisio> I said you did and you said 'nope' ;)
[23:03] <tenguix> Hi! I'm tenguix.
[23:03] <reisio> hi :)
[23:03] <Moony22> Hi
[23:03] <reisio> Moony22: hi
[23:03] <reisio> Dr_Willis: hi
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> Moo!
[23:03] <Moony22> Not talking to you
[23:03] <reisio> awe
[23:04] <tenguix> I like using xfconf, and not the crappy new idea that xfce had to bring a single gconf file into the mix when they introduced their new terminal upgrade!
[23:04]  * Dr_Willis closes the ticket.
[23:04] <tenguix> Should I start over again?
[23:04] <tenguix> Allright.
[23:04] <Moony22> Yes
[23:04] <tenguix> Hi I'm tenguix! What is linux?
[23:04] <reisio> tenguix: that isn't an Xfce thing
[23:04] <reisio> tenguix: it's an Xubuntu thing at most
[23:04] <tenguix> Thats the problem
[23:04] <reisio> and it's redundant to and not replacing of xfconf
[23:04] <tenguix> Well the package source has it too
[23:04] <reisio> if you don't want it, simply uninstall it
[23:04] <tenguix> I'm asking if theres a workaround dude
[23:05] <tenguix> When I boot to a live disk I can just unpack a tarfile and everything is configured. With the upgrade, I cant configure it.
[23:05] <Moony22> Does anyone actually use a  unity ppa here?
[23:05] <reisio> can't configure what?
[23:05] <reisio> Moony22: I'm not sure why anyone would
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> Moony22:  ive not really seen it mentioned befor
[23:05] <Moony22> New feature
[23:05] <tenguix> xubuntu 13 out of the box.
[23:06] <reisio> tenguix: what can't you configure?
[23:06] <Moony22> Dr_Willis, I did earlier
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> Moony22:  and you so far as about the first and only i can rember seeing in here
[23:06] <tenguix> If you had actually read what I said before, bro, youd know.
[23:06] <FastCode> i used to a few months back, but it crashed every few days, so i switched back.
[23:06] <Moony22> :(
[23:06] <reisio> tenguix: the terminal?
[23:06] <reisio> tenguix: how can you not configure it?
[23:06] <tenguix> The TERMINAL UPGRADE.
[23:06] <reisio> how can you not configure the terminal upgrade?
[23:06] <FastCode> the fun part is i have unity 7.1.0 and that ppa has 7.0.0
[23:07] <tenguix> ... Youre insane.
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> FastCode:  :) gotta love that.
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> tenguix:  you are being rather vague.
[23:07] <reisio> tenguix: can't help with vague things
[23:07] <Moony22> FastCode how?
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> somthing with xfconf, and the xfce terminal is annoying you..
[23:07] <FastCode> Dr_Willis: you just noticed?
[23:07] <reisio> but what it is, we don't know
[23:07] <tenguix> Allright. let me start over.
[23:07] <generalsu> hi i just have a quick question...when i try to download the 13.04 version for 64 bit, i get 12.04.2 instead...im kinda confused...maybe a site error?
[23:07] <reisio> generalsu: maybe, what site?
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> generalsu:  could be. You may want to try the torrents
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> !torrent
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> !torrents
[23:08] <generalsu> official ubuntu desktop site
[23:08] <tenguix> Hi! I'm tenguix. I like xfce4! Sometimes I make tarfiles. One tarfile I have unpacks my configfiles onto a read-write ramfs with xfce4!
[23:08] <tenguix> As of ubuntu 12.10, thats no problem!
[23:08] <FastCode> Dr_Willis: How do you know all these ubotto commands? Is there a manual?
[23:08] <generalsu> ok ill try the torrents ..thanks!
[23:09] <reisio> generalsu: http://ftp.utexas.edu/ubuntu-iso/CDs/13.04/
[23:09] <Moony22> You have too many,!,
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> FastCode:  yep  try /msg ubotu brains
[23:09] <tenguix> As of ubuntu 13, I cant do that anymore!
[23:09] <ubu_> hi
[23:09] <Moony22> Start over
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> !brains
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> !brain
[23:09] <reisio> tenguix: why can't you?
[23:09] <reisio> ubu_: hi
[23:09] <tenguix> because after xfce4.10
[23:09] <tenguix> they pulled in some gnome-ish bull...crap
[23:09] <Moony22> FastCode, how did you get that version?
[23:09] <reisio> tenguix: and you get an error message that says...?
[23:10] <tenguix> It just doesnt do anything.
[23:10] <tenguix> Have you tried manually updating a gconf file?
[23:10] <ubu_> reisio: ERROR: Could not load classifier cascade /usr/share/opencv/haarcascades/haarcascade_frontalface_alt2.xml
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> a tar file should extact its file to the current directory.. so im not clear on how tar is related to  the terminal app..
[23:10] <FastCode> apt-get upgrade i guess
[23:10] <ubu_> reisio: was ist das problem?
[23:10] <tenguix> My tar file starts at /. it goes to /home/xubuntu/.config/Terminal/terminalrc
[23:10] <tenguix> there is no more terminalrc.
[23:10] <Moony22> FastCode I think that ppa has more feature though
[23:10] <tenguix> Xubuntu 13 uses GCONF for the TERMINAL UPGRADE. As does the XFCE4-TERMINAL SOURCE PACKAGE.
[23:10] <reisio> tenguix: so you're saying your ~/.config/Terminal/terminalrc is ignored?
[23:11] <tenguix> WHY THEY DID THIS, I DONT KNOW.
[23:11] <FastCode> wait, I'm on saucy
[23:11] <Moony22> Oh
[23:11] <tenguix> I'm saying there is no way to unpack a tarfile with the timestamp written to file ahead of time.
[23:11] <Moony22> Is saucy buggy?
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> Moony22:  its in testing.
[23:11] <tenguix> So the only solution to unpacking my pre-tarred desktop is by using solely xfconf.
[23:11] <tenguix> WHAT I AM ASKING.
[23:11] <tenguix> Well youre all incompetent, haha.
[23:11] <Moony22> I tried the live cd and it seemed very buggy. Do you notice much bugs?
[23:11] <tenguix> Lets talk about something nice.
[23:11] <FastCode> I've had less issues than the stable
[23:11] <reisio> tenguix: ...
[23:12] <Nimble> if everyone here is incompetent why are you still here?
[23:12] <reisio> tenguix: so your problem is tar spits out an error?
[23:12] <tenguix> Youre right, nimble.
[23:12] <somsip> tenguix: tar -m (check the man to make sure this does what you want)
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> sure.. blame us. ;)
[23:12] <Nimble> well
[23:12] <Nimble> problem solved :)
[23:12] <reisio> dunno wtf that was all about :p
[23:12] <Moony22> Well, is there a way I can upgrade from raring to saucy? Without formatting partition again  and all the pain? Cos I just installed raring like a couple of hours ago
[23:13] <Nimble> when it goes live you'll have the option to do an upgrade in the software update prompts
[23:13] <ubu_> hm
[23:13] <Nimble> but before then I don't know
[23:13] <reisio> Moony22: if you just did it a couple of hours ago, it might actually be cleanest and briefest to just reinstall
[23:13] <FastCode> yes, you just need to change the sources file or use the ubuntu-release-upgrade
[23:13] <reisio> oh when it goes live :), heh
[23:14] <Nimble> FastCode, is changing the sources file a recommended way of updating>
[23:14] <Nimble> I know that's how one usually changes between testing/stable on debian
[23:14] <Moony22> FastCode, what would I change it to?
[23:14] <Moony22> I have done this before with Mint, but never with ubuntu
[23:15] <FastCode> I'm a former debian user, so it's completely natural to me
[23:15] <FastCode> try ubuntu-release-upgrade then
[23:15] <Moony22> How did you?
[23:16] <FastCode> Moony22: I'm looking it up on google,wait one min
[23:17] <FastCode> found it http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/ubuntu-release-upgrader-gtk
[23:18] <Moony22> Is this already installed?
[23:19] <FastCode> don' know
[23:19] <Jordan_U> FastCode: Just changing the release in /etc/apt/sources.list is *not* a valid way to upgrade, and will mostl likely break things.
[23:19] <ubu_> reisio: can you help me?
[23:20] <reisio> ubu_: I don't know what your problem is
[23:20] <ubu_> ok
[23:20] <isasha> yop
[23:20] <FastCode> I usually duplicate all lines and replace the old release name with the new one in first half
[23:20] <isasha> any idea why youtube-dl wouldn't work with dailymotion?
[23:20] <Moony22> I have just read that you can run 'sudo update-manager -d'  is this true?
[23:20] <FastCode> then apt-get update
[23:20] <isasha> I can't seem to download any videos from here :/
[23:20] <ubu_> reisio: but you see my error code?
[23:20] <FastCode> and apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> FastCode:  thats defainatly not adviceable on ubuntu systems
[23:20] <reisio> isasha: what distro?
[23:21] <isasha> mac os x
[23:21] <FastCode> :)
[23:21] <Moony22> Dr_Willis why?
[23:21] <ubu_> :)
[23:21] <reisio> uhuh...
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> Moony22:  it can totally break your system.. seems to be a good reason..
[23:21] <reisio> well, either you have the version of youtube-dl with the dailymotion support, and you have that support enabled
[23:21] <reisio> or you haven't
[23:21] <reisio> try #macosx
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> Moony22:  and the 'do-release-upgrade' tool has been written to handle the task
[23:21] <isasha> ugh… but it's the same thing. i installed it through brew
[23:22] <Bjond> isasha: have you updated recently?
[23:22] <isasha> I downloaded the latest version from git minutes ago
[23:22] <isasha> still, "ERROR: Unable to extract media URL"
[23:22] <Moony22> Is do-release-upgrade already installed?
[23:22] <Bjond> isasha: what video is it?
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> !find do-release-upgrade
[23:22] <isasha> Bjond: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x12dyum_etienne-de-crecy-paleo-festival-nyon-2013-concert-complet_music
[23:22] <Jordan_U> FastCode: That will most often lead to serious breakage, please do not recommend it here again.
[23:23] <Moony22> Yes no?
[23:23] <FastCode> I have done this like a dozen times on debian, but if its gonna break your systems i don't want to be the person responsible
[23:23] <Moony22> What does that mean
[23:23] <Bjond> isasha: starts downloading on my machine
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> Moony22:  type in the command and see if itx installed.. or query the bot.
[23:23] <isasha> wut...
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> !info ubuntu-release-upgrader-core
[23:23] <isasha> lemme try this with ubuntu :)
[23:23] <Moony22> I am not on my Linux system currently
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> bot says its 'standard'
[23:24] <Moony22> Which means?
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> so im guess ing thats a yes.
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> does it really matter? if its not.. you install it.
[23:24] <Moony22> So I just type do-release-upgrade?
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> do-release-upgrade -d  for the latest testing version i belive
[23:24] <Moony22> And it will install latest saucy?
[23:24] <crypticmofo> hi all
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> Moony22:  it is here.. from 13.04 to 13.10
[23:24] <reisio> hi
[23:24] <ubu_> hi
[23:25] <FastCode> with like a hundred confirmations and 'there is no going back's
[23:25] <Moony22> Got it, thanks. And how to purge a ppa?
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> actually it just asked like once. :)
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> !ppa-purge
[23:25] <isasha> reisio: ok, just tried on Ubuntu, same problem...
[23:25] <Moony22> Ok
[23:25] <Moony22> Thanks
[23:25] <reisio> isasha: it's possible the script is due for a bug fix
[23:25] <isasha> did you use special options or did you do something special with youtube-dl?
[23:25] <reisio> isasha: what URI are you using?
[23:25] <isasha> the exact same one I gave you
[23:26] <Bjond> isasha: I used th -t I normally do that to add the title
[23:26] <FastCode> Dr_Willis: wait, it will ask again before changing the sources.list
[23:26] <isasha> Bjond: nop. same error.
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> FastCode:  dident really notice..  There we go - it just did some stuff then asked if im really really sure. ;)
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> You have to download a total of 1,863 M. This download will take
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> about 15 minutes with your connection
[23:27] <Bjond> isasha: this is what i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6001146/ youtube-dl version 2013.08.17
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> 2489 packages are going to be upgraded.   ;)
[23:27] <crypcryp> i have a question .. i don't have a cd drive right and i want to istall ubuntu .. does unetbootin still work so i can boot from my usb drive ?
[23:27] <reisio> crypcryp: quite frequently, yes
[23:27] <isasha> Bjond: this is absurd...
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> crypcryp:  theres doezns of tools like unetbootin. the pendrivelinux wwb site has several.
[23:27] <ubu_> have a problem with radiotray - cant start that - http://pastebin.com/MLx51zqY
[23:27] <Prock81> this is a general linux question, but how can i scan the lines in a file, and if each line doesnt contain a '\' and a '.', back-slash and a period... they are not together, just both anywhere with in one line? And put that output in a new file?
[23:27] <isasha> seriously, no special options, no beta from git?
[23:28] <reisio> Prock81: what?
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> bbl.. upgradeing my systems. ;)
[23:28] <Bjond> isasha: when you mentioned youtube-dl not working, i did sudo youtube-dl -U a couple times
[23:28] <reisio> Prock81: egrep -v 'stuff|you|dont|want' file >> newfile
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> Prock81:  i imagine whatever you need to do.. 'sed' or 'awk' can hanele it. ;)    with grep.. those 3 are the big daddies of manageing text files
[23:28] <ubu_> maybe the "frei0r-plugins" ?
[23:28] <reisio> Prock81: so, '\\|\.'
[23:28] <Bjond> isasha: otherwise it was from the ubuntu repos originally.
[23:29] <isasha> well that's great
[23:29] <ubu_> hmpf...
[23:30] <isasha> it just freezes after telling me that it's going to get the binaries from github
[23:30] <Prock81> want to grep or etc a file and show each line that does have a back-slach and a period, they are not together, anywhere on each line, and put the output in a new file
[23:30] <Bjond> isasha: does it say to hit enter?
[23:30] <ubu_> plz help...
[23:30] <FastCode> quick question:is debdelta supported on ubuntu?
[23:30] <isasha> yes
[23:30] <FastCode> isasha: yes to who?
[23:30] <Bjond> isasha: i feel like we are making progress
[23:31] <isasha> Bjond: :P
[23:31] <FastCode> ah, i see
[23:31] <isasha> well on my mac it's updating, but on my ubuntu laptop it is still doing nothing Bjond
[23:32] <Moony22> FastCode it's on here http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man1/debdelta.1.html
[23:32] <isasha> YES! it works! thanks!!
[23:32] <Prock81> what about stuff i DO want? -->?  reisio:  egrep -v '.|\|' file >> newfile
[23:33] <isasha> are there many things that update themselves in this fashion ?
[23:33] <reisio> Prock81: -v is for invert
[23:33] <reisio> Prock81: so egrep 'stuff|i|want' vs egrep -v 'stuff|idont|want'
[23:33] <FastCode> I know the package is there, but it won't work, it just downloads one deb and not the delta and then exits
[23:33] <reisio> Prock81: it either matches what you want, or everything but what you don't want
[23:34] <Prock81> searching for a period and back-slash, anywhere with in each line, so if a line only has one dont show it, so thats the forrect formant
[23:34] <reisio> Prock81: yup, egrep -v '\\|\.'
[23:34] <Moony22> Also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDebdeltaSupport
[23:35] <bluefox83> holy cow, it's going to likely take DAYS to resize that stupid partition D:
[23:35] <reisio> bluefox83: nah
[23:35] <FastCode> still copying?
[23:35] <Prock81> when u have two \\ together, it that just a way to format the command to handle a slach
[23:35] <FastCode> its like 8 hours, right?
[23:35] <bluefox83> eh, it's still checking the fs for errors...egh
[23:36] <reisio> Prock81: \ and . both are used for special things in regex by default, so you've got to escape them
[23:36] <bluefox83> its a 1tb drive
[23:36] <reisio> Prock81: \ being the escape char :)
[23:36] <bluefox83> \\ = space in a filename
[23:36] <reisio> Prock81: if you were only trying to omit lines with the strings 'foo' and 'bar', just 'foo|bar' would work :)
[23:36] <reisio> bluefox83: hrmm?
[23:36] <reisio> that's '\ '
[23:36] <bluefox83> oh yeah!
[23:37] <reisio> because you're escaping the space, for a slightly different reason :)
[23:37] <reisio> don't usually need to escape spaces in regex
[23:37] <Moony22> Bai
[23:37] <reisio> adios
[23:37] <FastCode> TC
[23:37] <xrandr> Hello. If my video card manufacturer (nVidia) has a graphics driver available for linux, should I use that, or the one that ubuntu has selected for me?
[23:37] <reisio> bluefox83: what FS is it?
[23:38] <bluefox83> ext2 :(
[23:38] <reisio> xrandr: try'm both, see which performs better
[23:38] <bluefox83> er, ext3
[23:38] <reisio> bluefox83: ah
[23:38] <bluefox83> i need 4
[23:38] <reisio> yeah an fsck will take a while
[23:38] <bluefox83> because it's soooooooo sloooooooooow
[23:38] <reisio> but not days :)
[23:38] <FastCode> you ARE lucky its not ext2
[23:38] <reisio> are you fsck'ing an FS that you're duplicating the data of already?
[23:38] <bluefox83> i tried an fsck yesterday and all night...it failed at just over 2% completion after running 18 hours D:
[23:39] <bluefox83> eh, i'm using gparted to resize first...then i'll copy
[23:39] <xrandr> reisio: ok. I just want to be able to play my SimCity game via wine on here :)
[23:40] <bluefox83> i wonder why my monitor on my laptop keeps shutting off and blinking back on by itself O.o
[23:40] <reisio> xrandr: probably won't make a real different in that specific regard
[23:40] <reisio> xrandr: assuming both work at all, that is :)
[23:41] <FastCode> krandr: the ubuntu provided package has all the required tweaking, and believe me its not every mans job to install that freaking '.run' file
[23:41] <xrandr> FastCode: ok
[23:41] <ThePendulum> I have a bit of an issue here
[23:41] <ThePendulum> An application requires me to fill in my password
[23:41] <ThePendulum> (UNetbootin to be specific)
[23:42] <ThePendulum> But it won't take my password
[23:42] <ThePendulum> It keeps saying it's wrong
[23:42] <Bjond> !enter | ThePendulum
[23:42] <Prock81>   reisio: so it WILL show "C:\Windows\file.sys" But NOT show "C:\Windows\" or NOT show "file.sys is missing" ,But WOULD show "even thow i wouldnt want this line \n it will still report cause it has both chars im looking for.." ? Can you make an example of that? reading from a file and making a new file
[23:43] <ThePendulum> Well it's too late for that now :O
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> ThePendulum, Does you password work in a update in the terminal?
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> your*
[23:43] <ThePendulum> It works everywhere but for the gksudo request by UNetbootin (so far)
[23:43] <ThePendulum> I log in with it, I sudo with it in the terminal
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> ThePendulum, You don;t need to.
[23:44] <FastCode> if it's the one time you need it, sudo in the terminal and run unetbootin as root
[23:44] <ThePendulum> Well I use unetbootin occasionally, I'd rather fix it
[23:45] <ThePendulum> Or at least find out what's the issue
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> ThePendulum, Fixing it would be using it as intended.
[23:45] <bluefox83> i think i'ma stop gparted and just copy things over the network...this is rediculous...
[23:45] <ThePendulum> wilee-nilee: Using what as intended, if I may ask?
[23:46] <Prock81> i ran a dependency walker on a program and tring to only pick out lines with path + filename, the file is quite large would take me hours to pich through it, going to get all the files and see if i can make wine work with it
[23:47] <FastCode> bluefox83: it sometimes warns that it may leave your partition in an inconsis...whatever state, but nothing has happened to me, just sayyin'
[23:49] <Prock81> u say |\\| will look for a space, but what if i not looking for a space, just the slash and a dot
[23:49] <ThePendulum> wilee-nilee: How is starting it via Unity not the intended use?
[23:53] <bluefox83> ok, what's the best way to quickly transfer entire directories from one machine that's connected to a router by cat5 to a laptop that's connected via wifi G
[23:53] <Bjond> bluefox83: rsync?
[23:54] <bluefox83> because nautilus/smb was going like...11k
[23:54] <Vinnie_win> how do I easily get the latest gcc onto my ubuntu? Without recompiling from source?
[23:56] <bluefox83> Bjond: so that would work...how<EMAIL_ADDRESS>/where/i/want/it
[23:56] <bluefox83> kinda like that?
[23:58] <bluefox83> it's looking like i might need to also fsck my primary partition D: