[03:57] <RandomUsr_> Is there an alternative to any VNC based remote viewer? My Niece is behind a Firewall and doesn't know anything about port forwarding
[03:57] <jmburgess> RandomUsr_: try out FreeNX
[03:57] <nytek_> hey room, does anybody use ncmpc? its stuck on pause and it wont start playing any song i try
[03:57] <RandomUsr_> jmburgess, does that work like a web based remote viewer?
[03:57] <crdlb> nytek_: do other mpd clients work?
[03:58] <nytek_> crdlb: no
[03:58] <jmburgess> RandomUsr_: ummmmmmmmm not sure let me look
[03:59] <Magicman1264> can anyone tell me what I need in order to play games on Pogo? I know it's Java but I don't know how to install it in terminal
[03:59] <cvd> can i use seahorese with out a password?
[03:59] <nytek_> crdlb: i tried to google the problem, but apparenly im the only one having it lol
[04:00] <RandomUsr_> jmburgess, Looks like it has a DIY server, but not like using a web browser with an applet.
[04:01] <jmburgess> RandomUsr_: yeah that is very possible
[04:01] <RandomUsr_> prolly still need port forwarding
[04:01] <crdlb> nytek_: mpd may require a bit of configuration before you can use it
[04:01] <RandomUsr_> sent me niece home with a fresh install of 9.10 and she can't figure out wine and display cpabilities.
[04:02] <RandomUsr_> capabilities even
[04:02] <ubuntuser79> can someone help me with installing the fuzion compiz icon
[04:02] <powergoal> Is there a way to tell ubuntu to use the Super mod key as both Ctrl and Alt ?
[04:02] <nytek_> ubuntuser79: sudo apt-get install fusion-icon
[04:03] <soreau> ubuntuser79: What is the problem?
[04:03] <nytek_> crdlb: any idea what i have to configure?
[04:04] <balsaq> edge won the royal rumble
[04:04] <Magicman1264> Can someone help me with installing Java?
[04:04] <crdlb> nytek_: at minimum you need to edit /etc/mpd.conf and set music_directory
[04:04] <nytek_> crdlb: ok
[04:05] <nytek_> crdlb: its set to the correct directory
[04:05] <soreau> Well look what the cat dragged in. It's crdlb
[04:05] <H4xor3d> can anyone help me with installing java 6u18?
[04:05] <crdlb> nytek_: does ncmpc see your music in 'Browse'?
[04:05] <nytek_> crdlb: yup
[04:06] <RandomUsr_> ah, crdlb, do you know of a remote viewer that works base off of Mozilla/and some applet? something like logmein?
[04:06] <H4xor3d> plz?
[04:06] <nytek_> crdlb: its been weird, it will be stuck on pause then all of a sudden ill hit shift P to play and it will play
[04:06] <balsaq> Magicman1264, its in the repositories
[04:06] <JohnTed> I $ sudo modprobe usbcore
[04:06] <JohnTed> FATAL: Module usbcore not found.
[04:06] <Magicman1264> balsaq thank you
[04:07] <JohnTed> 2.6.33-020633rc6-generic, there is no usbcore on the ubuntu dev kernels? Everything works, sound, video, etc etc, except my sd card reader doesn't work.
[04:07] <par14h> Okay!  Let me try this again.  I am a Microsoft-dependant Ubuntu-Noob trying to get a Linksys WUSB54GC USB Wireless Network Dongle to connect to a Linksys WRT160N Router set to Wireless B/G and WPA Personal Encryption. ( Either TKIS or EAP is accepted) The Dongle works perfectly on Windows XP and Vista, and it works on Karmic when connecting to unsecured networks.  Just not to MY network.  I have read the article at https://help.ubuntu.
[04:07] <nytek_> crdlb: in the configuration file, the port is commented out, you think that might be the problem?
[04:07] <crdlb> nytek_: no, it will just use the default
[04:07] <balsaq> Magicman1264, yw
[04:08] <greezmunkey> par14h, Are you on 9.10 ?
[04:08] <crdlb> nytek_: check /var/log/mpd/mpd.log ; it sounds like mpd is misbehaving
[04:08] <nytek_> ok
[04:08] <Freds> soreau, it said it didnt understand the b43-fwcutter command
[04:08] <Freds> :(
[04:08] <doinel> Hi all. I'm trying to fix GRUB on a Macbook 5,1. My root filesystem is /dev/sda3, and I want to install GRUB to this device so as to use it with rEFI. However, when typing in root (hd0,2) and setup (hd0,2) the stage1 files are not found.
[04:08] <H4xor3d> can anyone tell me why when i do "java -version" in terminal it displays "java version "1.6.0_0"" after ive installed 6u18?
[04:08] <soreau> Freds: Where you able to get the output?
[04:09] <soreau> ugh
[04:09] <nytek_> crdlb: apparently it is having some problems with finding my alsa device. "
[04:09] <greezmunkey> par14h, You there?
[04:09] <nytek_> crdlb: "failed to open"
[04:09] <soreau> Freds: Were*
[04:09] <Freds> what do you mean?
[04:09] <par14h> Greezmunkey, Yes, I am.  It's an updated version fro 9.0x that I installed months ago.  It was updated right out of install.  Oddly enough, The USB adapter worked when I used NDISWrapper.  Just not AFTER I updated.
[04:09] <Freds> i followed the alternative internet access bit
[04:09] <nytek_> crdlb: that definitely has to be the problem
[04:09] <soreau> Freds: Are you able to pastebin the command you ran and what output it showed?
[04:10] <par14h> greezmunkey. Odd that that didn't occur to me before now.
[04:10] <Freds> it said it didnt understand b43-fwcutter command
[04:10] <Freds> after i typed: sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta-<IP_ADDRESS>.o
[04:10] <powergoal> Is there a way to tell ubuntu to use the Super mod key as both Ctrl and Alt ?
[04:10] <greezmunkey> par14h, do you remember what the interface was called when it worked? ra0 by chance?
[04:11] <soreau> Freds: Did you install b43-fwcutter ?
[04:11] <Freds> i thought thats what i was doing..
[04:11] <par14h> greezmunkey, No, I believe it was wlan0.  ra0 was my loopback.
[04:11] <soreau> powergoal: Check gnome-keyboard-properties
[04:11] <Freds> there is only two download links on that bit
[04:11] <Freds> i downloaded them both
[04:11] <crdlb> nytek_: you might have better luck with mpd using pulseaudio instead of alsa like this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mpd/+bug/364475/comments/1
[04:11] <greezmunkey> par14h, What chipset is the adapter?
[04:12] <Freds> b43-fwcutter isnt one of them
[04:12] <nytek_> crdlb: so change "alsa" to pulseaudio under the type?
[04:12] <lolhalplz> Hey guys, it's me again. Now when I choose Ubuntu it won't even boot, just shows a blinking underscore.
[04:12] <TLUL> If I import a key from the gnupg keyserver, how do I tell gpg that it's my key? I generated it on another computer.
[04:13] <par14h> greezmunkey, I'm sorry.  I know brand, model, serial numbers and the MAC. How do I find Chipset information?
[04:13] <soreau> Freds: But if you read before that, it tells you to install b43-fwcutter from the cd. Basically, you go to sys>admin>software sources, uncheck everything except the cd, make sure the cd is in the drive, then run sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[04:13] <greezmunkey> par14h, that info will do, please go ahead.
[04:13] <crdlb> nytek_: at least on karmic, you can just comment out the alsa audio_output section entirely and uncomment the pulse one below it
[04:13] <Freds> well i installed ubuntu using a virtual drive
[04:13] <nytek_> crdlb: kk, ill try that
[04:13] <Freds> so i have no cd :/
[04:13] <yellowhat89> help please
[04:13] <yellowhat89> anyone can help me?
[04:14] <soreau> ! ask | yellowhat89
[04:14] <Freds> wouldnt it have just installed it when i installed the os?
[04:14] <soreau> Freds: How did you install ubuntu then?
[04:14] <soreau> ! who | Freds
[04:14] <doinel> OK, I have made some progress and have reinstalled my GRUB image to the necessary partition. However, when trying to boot into Ubuntu I still get the word "GRUB" with a flashing cursor. No menu or further activity.
[04:14] <par14h> greezmunkey: Device = Linksys WUSB54GC.  Serial# = MLF00h813154
[04:14] <nytek_> crdlb: do i have to reload ncmpc and mpd?
[04:15] <yellowhat89> sorry, so how to add permission to nobody in ubuntu for mp3 files?
[04:15] <ekim1> Do I have to use a 64bit version to utilize my 4gigs of ram or will 32bit work?
[04:15] <Roasted> yes, you need 64 bit to address 4gb of ram
[04:15] <jmburgess> ekim1: yes you do, but 64 bit is pretty good these days
[04:15] <crdlb> nytek_: apparently you need to leave the server and sink lines commented
[04:15] <yellowhat89> @ekim, you need 64bit instead
[04:16] <Freds> soreau, wouldnt it have already installed with the os?
[04:16] <nytek_> crdlb: kk
[04:16] <crdlb> nytek_: restarting mpd should be enough
[04:16] <greezmunkey> par14h, is the adapter installed in your system now?
[04:16] <nytek_> crdlb: how do i do that?
[04:16] <ekim1> will it show up as 3gigs like windoze?
[04:16] <yellowhat89> anyone know how to add permission to "nobody"in ubuntu for mp3 files?
[04:16] <par14h> greezmunkey, It's connected and the ndiswrapper has the driver.
[04:17] <soreau> Freds: I would think not since it tells you to install it
[04:17] <crdlb> nytek_: sudo service mpd restart
[04:17] <Freds> soreau, i will have a look through the cd
[04:17] <H4xor3d> can someone plz help me with installing java 6u18? ive tried multiple times and i get 6u16 when i do "javac -version" in terminal and 6u0 when i do "java -version" in terminal...plz help
[04:17] <greezmunkey> par14h, OK, open a terminal window please, and type the following: tail -f /var/log/syslog
[04:18] <greezmunkey> par14h, Then press enter
[04:19] <nanotube> so when i use the 'scale' plugin on compiz (the mac expose-like one), it excludes the minimized windows from the display. any way to include them? or is that a design limitation?
[04:19] <nytek_> crdlb: no sound :(
[04:19] <par14h> greezmunkey - what am I looking for?
[04:19] <yellowhat89> @ALL, how to add permission to "nobody" in ubuntu for mp3 files?
[04:20] <crdlb> nytek_: even with the sink and server lines commented?
[04:20] <nytek_> crdlb: yup
[04:20] <greezmunkey> par14h, Now unplug the adapter, wait a few seconds, then plug it back in.
[04:20] <amouge> hey all.. whats the best way to edit websites directly on an ftp server? I tried curlftpfs but after about 10 minutes of being idle it of course closed the connection, and for another 10 minutes my editor hung waiting for a response from server
[04:20] <soreau> nanotube: You could say it's a design limitation
[04:20] <amouge> anyone know if there is a way to keep the connection alive so that doesnt happen?
[04:21] <greezmunkey> par14h, we are going to capture whatever info there is as the device comes up...
[04:21] <nanotube> soreau: heh, what else could i say? :)
[04:21] <H4xor3d> so no one will help me thats great....:-(
[04:21] <Freds> soreau, i have the folder called b43-fwcutter if i put it straight into the place where i took it from but on the os will it be installed, if not what do i type?
[04:21] <Losha> yellowhat89: files have 3 kinds of permission usually: user (owner), group and 'other' (everyone else). Try setting 'everyone else' to allow read: chmod o+r *.mp3
[04:21] <nanotube> !patience | H4xor3d
[04:21] <soreau> Freds: But if you read before that, it tells you to install b43-fwcutter from the cd. Basically, you go to sys>admin>software sources, uncheck everything except the cd, make sure the cd is in the drive, then run sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[04:22] <greezmunkey> H4xor3d, please try to be patient :)
[04:22] <H4xor3d> mmkay
[04:22] <par14h> greezmonkey - reconnecting after severaal seconds.  THe log says a lot about mahara...
[04:22] <nytek_> crdlb: you think i might have to restart?
[04:22] <crdlb> nytek_: what does the /var/log/mpd/mpd.log file say now?
[04:22] <Freds> i dont have a cd
[04:22] <greezmunkey> par14h, OK are you familiar with paste.ubuntu.com ?
[04:22] <TLUL> My Ubuntu install only boots up right about 50% of the time. How can I find out what's causing the problem (and hopefully fix it)?
[04:22] <soreau> Freds: Then when you run the b43-fwcutter, make sure you get the exact output if it fails to show us
[04:22] <Freds> i installed ubuntu on a partitioned drive using a virtual drive
[04:23] <iflema> nanotube try ringswitcher it does include minimised windows.... not as good as windowpicker however
[04:23] <k_> i modified the grub2 file but still can't get rid of the menu with kernel options can someone help me?
[04:23] <nanotube> H4xor3d: why not just use whatever's is the repositories, as the sun-java6-bin package?
[04:23] <par14h> greezmonkey, no.  Plus, without a network cinnection, How will i get this log to you?
[04:23] <crdlb> nytek_: I've been playing along, and it worked for me without rebooting
[04:23] <TLUL> k_: what do you want to get rid of? The OS select screen?
[04:23] <greezmunkey> par14h, how are you working this now?
[04:23] <k_> yes
[04:23] <nytek_> crdlb: problems opning audio device while playing...
[04:23] <k_> i set timeout at 0
[04:23] <TLUL> k_: Okay, I was reading about how to do this just a few days ago.
[04:23] <nytek_> crdlb: its weird, i have sound
[04:23] <quigger> Can someone help me get ubuntu to recognise my laptops keyboard & touchpad?
[04:24] <nytek_> crdlb: but no with ncmpc
[04:24] <TLUL> k_: I'll check. I know there's a fairly simple way to do it...
[04:24] <nanotube> iflema: what is this 'window picker' you say?
[04:24] <k_> thanks
[04:24] <par14h> Greezmunkey, Karmic (9.1) is on a desktop machine.  I have my Vista laptop here, communicating with you.
[04:24] <H4xor3d> nanotube: umm how?
[04:24] <nytek_> crdlb: ah, when i restart mpd im getting a listen: bind to <IP_ADDRESS> failed adress already in use
[04:24] <H4xor3d> =)
[04:24] <greezmunkey> par14h, do you have a jump (thumb) drive handy?
[04:24] <nanotube> H4xor3d: what version of ubuntu do you have?
[04:24] <iflema> nanotube the scale keybinding for windowpicker
[04:24] <H4xor3d> junty
[04:24] <H4xor3d> jaunty*
[04:25] <amouge> hey all.. whats the best way to edit websites directly on an ftp server? I tried curlftpfs but after about 10 minutes of being idle it of course closed the connection, and for another 10 minutes my editor hung waiting for a response from server
[04:25] <par14h> greezmunkey - yup.  all set and ready to plug in.  hope it doesn't crash the system.
[04:25] <nanotube> H4xor3d: and do you want just the runtime, or also the jdk?
[04:25] <H4xor3d> jdk
[04:25] <H4xor3d> =)
[04:25] <yellowhat89> @Losha: chmod: cannot access `*.mp3': No such file or directory
[04:26] <nanotube> H4xor3d: then just run "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk"
[04:26] <greezmunkey> par14h, Don't borrow trouble :) Copy and paste the output of syslog into a file and transfer it to you winbox, we'll take from there...
[04:26] <nanotube> H4xor3d: that will install the version from the ubuntu repos, which is 6-13-1... recent enough... :)
[04:26] <nanotube> H4xor3d: more info: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/sun-java6-jdk
[04:26] <Losha> yellowhat89: which directory contains your mp3s? You need to cd there before you can do the chmod?
[04:27] <crdlb> nytek_: my guess would be that mpd didn't shut down properly; you could try sudo service mpd stop, then killing the mpd process if it is still running
[04:27] <H4xor3d> sun-java6-jdk is already the newest version.
[04:27] <H4xor3d> java version "1.6.0_0"
[04:27] <nanotube> iflema: ah so you are just referring to the scale plugin as the 'windowpicker' ok...
[04:27] <crdlb> nytek_: also, are you using the ubuntu desktop (ie gnome)?
[04:27] <H4xor3d> after "java -version" in terminal =P
[04:27] <par14h> greezmunkey, I'm seeing a lot of this going on in the log:  "wpa_Supplicant[759] Association request to the driver failed"
[04:28] <nytek_> crdlb: brb im going to restart
[04:28] <yellowhat89> I'm installing kPlaylist, in that site said: Make sure nobody or nogroup can read MP3 files.
[04:28] <nanotube> H4xor3d: hrm that's strange - did you by any chance install some other java from somewhere else other than the ubuntu repos?
[04:28] <yellowhat89> I think that it's mean all mp3 files, not only in spesific dir
[04:29] <nanotube> H4xor3d: because here on intrepid i'm getting "java version "1.6.0_14" and on karmic i'm getting "java version "1.6.0_15"  so if you have jaunty, you shouldn't be getting 1.6.0_0...
[04:29] <H4xor3d> nanotube: umm ive tried to install manually from a .bin file dl'ed from java's website
[04:29] <jimisrvrox> hey folks needing some help with this rt2500 I have no ap and nm says its disconnected but thankfully i have no errors in dmesg...
[04:29] <par14h> greezmunkey, I'm still waiting for the system to give up it's attempt to connect, FYI
[04:29] <greezmunkey> par14h, control + c in the term window, then copy and paste all captured data into a new file, place that on your jump drive please!
[04:29] <nanotube> H4xor3d: hrm well maybe if you undo whatever you did with your manual install... ?
[04:29] <TLUL> k_: I think I know how to do it.
[04:30] <H4xor3d> ill try deleting the files =P
[04:30] <flacom> hi all
[04:30] <k_> TLUL, how?
[04:30] <greezmunkey> par14h, move the file to your winbox, and open a browser...point it to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:30] <TLUL> k_: If you open up the terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/default/grub" then you should see the grub configuration file
[04:31] <flacom> I need to run this command 'openvpn --config client.ovpn' as root at startup, how can I do that?
[04:31] <TLUL> In there, remove the # before the part that says "GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0"
[04:31] <k_> ah
[04:31] <TLUL> k_: Then, once that's removed, you'll need to update the complete settings file.
[04:32] <TLUL> k_: Typing "sudo update-grub" should do it.
[04:32] <k_> TLUL, i already did that :/
[04:32] <k_> TLUL, did not help
[04:32] <lolhalplz> Must flood to get attention.
[04:33] <H4xor3d> nanotube: umm deleting files did not work because i do not have permission o.O
[04:33] <H4xor3d> idk how else to undo
[04:33] <TLUL> k_: You already uncommented GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 and ran update-grub?
[04:33] <par14h> Greezmunkey:  almost there...
[04:33] <TLUL> k_: And the timeout is still there? Hmm...
[04:33] <rasstar> how do you disable the os selection when ubuntu boots?
[04:33] <k_> it was uncommented to start with
[04:33] <k_> no timout
[04:33] <lolhalplz> Help, please. When I try to boot ubuntu it won't boot, just shows a blinking underscore. I'm using UNB 9.10 on an Acer Aspire One.
[04:33] <ubuntuser> could someone help me with the fuzion compiz icon.
[04:33] <lolhalplz> Help, please. When I try to boot ubuntu it won't boot, just shows a blinking underscore. I'm using UNB 9.10 on an Acer Aspire One.
[04:33] <lolhalplz> Help, please. When I try to boot ubuntu it won't boot, just shows a blinking underscore. I'm using UNB 9.10 on an Acer Aspire One.
[04:33] <FloodBot4> lolhalplz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:33] <k_> but i have to hit enter
[04:33] <yellowhat89> @Losha, i have success for mp3 in spesific dir.
[04:34] <soreau> ubuntuser: What's wrong with it?
[04:34] <lolhalplz> </3 flooding
[04:34] <Losha> yellowhat89: good. So is your problem solved?
[04:34] <lolhalplz> Help?'
[04:34] <yellowhat89> any tips to make all mp3 automatically handle by a group?
[04:34] <jimisrvrox> hey folks needing some help with this rt2500 I have no ap and nm says its disconnected but thankfully i have no errors in dmesg...
[04:34] <nanotube> H4xor3d: well i don't really know what the sun java manual installer does... so i can't really tell you how to undo it...  generally, you could just delete the files with sudo - but you have to be careful to know precisely what you want to delete...
[04:34] <nytek_> crdlb: hey, now in my sound preferences its showing a dummy output in the output tab
[04:34] <yellowhat89> @Losha, yes, but not exactly what i want
[04:35] <cvd> only in linux!
[04:35] <par14h> greezmunkey:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/366609/
[04:35] <JKemp> Can anyone help? I boot ubuntu to live and get sounds of desktop but no picture.
[04:35] <Losha> yellowhat89: So can you say more about what it is exactly that you want?
[04:35] <JKemp> Also install gets no picture.
[04:35] <par14h> greezmunkey: it's a long log
[04:36] <lolhalplz> Help, please. When I try to boot ubuntu it won't boot, just shows a blinking underscore. I'm using UNB 9.10 on an Acer Aspire One.
[04:36] <crdlb> nytek_: so now sound doesn't work in anything?
[04:36] <JKemp> The menu on first boot with Try without effects to computer, Install, memtst or w/e comes up but everything past leads to no display.
[04:36] <soreau> JKemp: Which video card ?
[04:36] <nytek_> crdlb: nope
[04:36] <JKemp> soreau: Intel
[04:36] <H4xor3d> nanotube: well here's the website: https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_Developer-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewFilteredProducts-SingleVariationTypeFilter;pgid=yYdgaHqkkjVSR0EUPIQsoQ3D0000w5YpMzN9;sid=xJf6mjW75W36mX7dnpqyn9oSW2mc2fj-kXU1Wyilnk2-UQ==?DLWidget=true&AutoWidgetDL=
[04:36] <malnek> anyone here have experience with Openbox? i want to add a new program to the GUI, and i want the program to be run as sudo in an terminal
[04:36] <greezmunkey> par14h, hmm... that's ok, give me a bit...
[04:36] <H4xor3d> dled the  jdk-6u18-linux-i586.bin
[04:36] <soreau> JKemp: Maybe you can try booting with nomodeset as a kernel param to disable kms
[04:36] <nytek_> crdlb: wait
[04:37] <nytek_> i have sound
[04:37] <JKemp> soreau: okay, also i get a message when booting Backtrack4 that screens found but none usable so assume its same effect.
[04:38] <nytek_> crdlb: in headphone and out of speakers
[04:38] <Mimi> Hey, I know I should ask in #conky, but does anyone why conky "stays above" other windows... but very RANDOMLY?  My conky cfg is right, but if I alt-tab or close a program, SOMETIMES it will cause conky to "stay on top" :P
[04:38] <JKemp> soreau: But when i use fixvesa it works in backtrack, but no way to type that in ubuntu since its not non-graphic startup like backtrack.
[04:38] <soreau> JKemp: If nomodeset doesn't help you can try using the vesa driver
[04:38] <ubuntuser> soreau i caont get the icon in applications-systtem tools
[04:38] <JKemp> soreau: How would i go about doing that?
[04:38] <nytek_> crdlb: any idea how to turn off the speaker and just use the headphones?
[04:38] <soreau> ubuntulog: What happens if you run 'fusion-icon' in your terminal?
[04:39] <JKemp> soreau: Nver had a prob like this b4 :( , lol guess it happens eventually.
[04:40] <soreau> JKemp: You would have to generate an xorg.conf with 'Xorg -configure' then put the following line in the Device section:  Driver "vesa"
[04:40] <greezmunkey> par14h, go here and work your way though the suggestion(s) You should be fine! http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/usb-network-adapter-with-ndiswrapper-cant-connect-to-wpa-with-wpa-supplicant-568266/
[04:40] <nanotube> H4xor3d: that link seems to take me to a blank page... might these be the instructions you're following: http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml
[04:41] <JKemp> soreau: Okay where would i use Xorg -configure ? Since its not installed i have no cmd line.
[04:41] <soreau> JKemp: btw, after it starts with a black screen, can you do Ctrl+Alt+F# to get to a console?
[04:41] <JKemp> soreau: can i use it as a boot parameter?
[04:41] <JKemp> F#?
[04:41] <par14h> greezmunkey - will do!  Thanks for the positive direction!
[04:41] <JKemp> Just any number?
[04:41] <JKemp> Any F# key i guess =P
[04:41] <crdlb> nytek_: do you know what sound card you have?
[04:41] <soreau> yes
[04:41] <soreau> ! tty | JKemp
[04:41] <JKemp> soreau: Okay thank you. Later.
[04:41] <greezmunkey> par14h, if you don't have any luck after a while ask here again. I have to go so good luck.
[04:41] <nytek_> crdlb: i dont.
[04:41] <soreau> JKemp: any number between 1-6
[04:42] <JKemp> soreau: Thank you. Will see if it works. =)
[04:43] <lolhalplz> Help, please. When I try to boot ubuntu it won't boot, just shows a blinking underscore. I'm using UNB 9.10 on an Acer Aspire One.
[04:43] <crdlb> nytek_: try: lspci | grep -i audio
[04:43] <lolhalplz> Help, please. When I try to boot ubuntu it won't boot, just shows a blinking underscore. I'm using UNB 9.10 on an Acer Aspire One.
[04:43] <lolhalplz> Help, please. When I try to boot ubuntu it won't boot, just shows a blinking underscore. I'm using UNB 9.10 on an Acer Aspire One
[04:43] <lolhalplz> Help, please. When I try to boot ubuntu it won't boot, just shows a blinking underscore. I'm using UNB 9.10 on an Acer Aspire One,
[04:43] <lolhalplz> Help, please. When I try to boot ubuntu it won't boot, just shows a blinking underscore. I'm using UNB 9.10 on an Acer Aspire One..
[04:43] <lolhalplz> Help, please. When I try to boot ubuntu it won't boot, just shows a blinking underscore. I'm using UNB 9.10 on an Acer Aspire One
[04:43] <jmburgess> lolhalplz: stop spamming please
[04:43] <nytek_> crdlb: intel corp 82801G ICH7 Family
[04:44] <lolhalplz> Nobody is helping me.
[04:44] <lolhalplz> Which makes me raeg.
[04:44] <par14h> greezmunkey - are you a member of LinuxQuestions?
[04:44] <jmburgess> lolhalplz: nobody is helping you because we don't know the answer, and spamming is not how you get it
[04:45] <lolhalplz> Spam is canned, not words in the internet.
[04:45] <L00pBack> TLUL, didn't work
[04:45] <L00pBack> TLUL, i saw no timer
[04:45] <RDove> lolhalplz, its usually a grub problem if thats the case
[04:45] <soreau> lolhalplz: Instead of spamming the same message over and over, try explaining your problem better. What version of ubuntu? What have you tried exactly? What is not working?
[04:45] <jmburgess> lolhalplz: google around, I know people who have gotten UNR running on an Acer before
[04:45] <L00pBack> TLUL, it waited until i hit enter
[04:46] <Magicman1264> lolhalplz: I had the same problem with my Toshiba. I found it easier to go back to 9.04
[04:46] <H4xor3d> nanotube: k thx! ill try this tomorrow as its getting late and need to sleep.....ill be back tomorrow if i still have questions
[04:46] <lolhalplz> soreau: It's 9.10 Netbook Remix.
[04:46] <nanotube> H4xor3d: good night ;)
[04:48] <crdlb> nytek_: this seems to be a common problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/414746
[04:48] <nytek_> crdlb: do i have to install new drivers or something?
[04:48] <nytek_> crdlb: ahh, is there a fix?
[04:49] <nytek_> crdlb: btw, do you know how to launch links from irssi into a web browser? (sorry for my offtopic question)
[04:50] <lolhalplz> You guys ask for more details, I tell you, you don't help me.
[04:50] <crdlb> nytek_: in gnome-terminal, you can just right click on them (it recognizes them as urls)
[04:50] <dumdidumdum> hi i have a problem with compiz/grid. i already activated it. and assigned a shortcut to put left and put right but nothing happened when i use the shortcut. does anyone have an idea?
[04:51] <nytek_> crdlb: not using gnome termina :(, rxvt-uncide
[04:51] <soreau> lolhalplz: You only answered one of the questions I gave as suggestions for more info
[04:51] <soreau> dumdidumdum: Do you have compiz running?
[04:51] <lolhalplz> I can't try anything.
[04:51] <mojo_> does anyone run into problem with rake rails:freeze:gems with ruby1.9.1 package?
[04:51] <lolhalplz> It just shows a blinking underscore when I choose ubuntu at startup.
[04:52] <nytek_> crdlb: brb
[04:52] <crdlb> nytek_: http://blog.mfuchs.org/?p=60
[04:52] <dumdidumdum> i think so. how can i check it? on my other pc it starts automaticly
[04:52] <sahal`> i'm having session issues http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1395469
[04:52] <PhantomLink> How can I find out what's wrong with my ubuntu installation?  I need a quick answer because it could restart any moment
[04:52] <lolhalplz> What's not working? I can't LOAD ubuntu.
[04:53] <rpwiz> need help with usplash 1.04 script???
[04:53] <soreau> lolhalplz: You must have did something to get there. You downloaded <?> and copied it to a <?> then tried to boot it but it works <?> with a regular ubuntu 9.10 cd, just not UNR <?>
[04:53] <PhantomLink> Sometimes the thing restarts before it even gets past the orange splash loading screen
[04:53] <futurama140> the options on http://www.ubuntusolutions.org/2009/02/screen-flickering-with-nvidia-on-ubuntu.html dont work. ive tried all of them to fix my screen flicker. can someone help me??
[04:54] <lolhalplz> Netbook Remix just changes the interface.
[04:54] <Blue1> futurama140: okay obvious things - you do have the right driver installed, and you ru 50 or 60 hz power?
[04:55] <LoopB4ck> TLUL, got option 2
[04:55] <futurama140> Bluel: i do have the right drivers installed, and i dont know what frequency my power is.
[04:55] <Blue1> futurama140: are you in the united states?
[04:55] <futurama140> Bluel: yes.
[04:56] <TLUL> LoopB4ck: Then I have no idea why it's not accepting the configuration file.
[04:56] <Blue1> futurama140: ok
[04:56] <yellowhat89> @Losha, actually I want a "nobody" or "nogroup" can automatically have permission to mp3 file,
[04:56] <TLUL> LoopB4ck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#/etc/default/grub%20(file)
[04:56] <TLUL> That's all I can find on it.
[04:56] <LoopB4ck> thx anyway
[04:57] <Blue1> futurama140: go into System/Preferences/Display (say no to use use the extensions)/and look at refresh rate - should be set to 60
[04:57] <dumdidumdum> compiz is running shortcuts like alt+tab are working
[04:57] <DrDuck> :D
[04:58] <futurama140> Bluel: i have 2 options, 50hz, and 51hz, it is set to 50hz.
[04:58] <Blue1> futurama140: in the u.s. it is 60 hz  if it's not set to that then that is your problem
[04:59] <Blue1> futurama140: what version of the nvidia driver are you using?
[04:59] <futurama140> Bluel: i cant change it to 60hz, before i installed the drivers it was 60hz, how can i change that?
[04:59] <futurama140> Bluel: 185 i believe. the newest.
[04:59] <Blue1> futurama140: let me see what driver I have installed here brb
[05:00] <soreau> dumdidumdum: Have you tried restarting compiz since setting the grid settings?   It keeps restarting out of the blue for no reason at all
[05:00] <lolhalplz> I got the Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix, burnt to CD, ran the live CD, used USB Creator function to put on a usb, put usb in laptop, installed ubuntu to laptop.
[05:00] <^Phantom^> (PhantomLink here)
[05:00] <lolhalplz> laptop = netbook
[05:00] <lolhalplz> in my above post.
[05:01] <Blue1> futurama140: so I used the 173 driver -- and it works fine -- also had problems with the 180 dirver
[05:01] <lolhalplz> help?
[05:01] <Blue1> futurama140: but that's causing your flicker --
[05:01] <message144> If I rsync backup my drive and I have an account which is encrypted with ecryptfs, should I make my backup with the decrypted data or with the encrypted data? Any suggestions?
[05:01] <dumdidumdum> soreau: how can i do that?
[05:01] <futurama140> Blue1: so i should install the 173 and try that? i had heard anything less than 180 wouldnt work with 9.10
[05:01] <Blue1> lolhalplz: you need to set up in your bios to boot off of a usb device
[05:02] <^Phantom^> I mean I am having a b**** of a time trying to back up my data that I want to keep
[05:02] <soreau> dumdidumdum: Try 1) Installing simple-ccsm 2) Select None, then the Custom radio button in Sys>Prefs>Appearance>Visual Effects
[05:02] <nytek_> crdlb: ok im back. any ideas?
[05:02] <rpwiz> rpwizard1
[05:02] <Blue1> futurama140: I dunno YMMV (your mileage may vary) - It's worth trying the 180 driver once
[05:02] <crdlb> nytek_: did you see the link about urxvt?
[05:02] <ofosho> I am trying to install ubuntu netbook remix, but when i try to install the installer says that it cannout unmount /cdrom
[05:02] <liobam> hi, how would i go about making my alt or ctrl key emit a space key event? my space bar on this laptop has broken
[05:03] <nytek_> crdlb: ill look
[05:03] <^Phantom^> I mean, it even restarts in the middle of me copying my files over to my backup drive.
[05:03] <futurama140> Blue1: i may just try the 173. ill give that a shot and be back to let you know how it goes.
[05:03] <sahal`> i dont know why gnome wont load on one of the usernames on this computer
[05:03] <Blue1> futurama140: kewl --
[05:03] <Blue1> futurama140: fwiw - I am running 64 bit
[05:04] <nytek_> crdlb: cool thanks. any ideas on the sound issue?
[05:04] <lolhalplz> Blue1: I installed it to my computer, hurr durr.
[05:04] <Losha> message144: judging from the number of people who show up here saying they 'forgot' their encryption key, or that their encrypted filesystem won't decrypt, I would say back it up unencrypted, but keep it somewhere very safe.....
[05:05] <message144> Losha, so that is fairly common?
[05:05] <futurama140> Blue1: ok, im running 32bit
[05:05] <Blue1> futurama140: I am running v 173.14.20 of the nvidia driver --
[05:06] <soreau> How do you stop/start/restart gdm in karmic again?
[05:06] <nytek_> crdlb: wow, it just changed to my default sound card. now i can change to headphone output.
[05:06] <Blue1> soreau: i do a sudo service gdm restart
[05:06] <soreau> CAPcap: Ok, here
[05:06] <crdlb> nytek_: are you using usb headphones?
[05:06] <Blue1> lolhalplz: okay I thought you were having trouble booting the install usb drive
[05:06] <soreau> ! tty | CAPcap
[05:06] <nytek_> crdlb: nope
[05:07] <soreau> Blue1: stop and start work too, right?
[05:07] <soreau> CAPcap: Try it out. Just press Ctrl+Alt+F1 then Ctrl+Alt+F7 again
[05:07] <Blue1> soreau: oops sorry sudo /etc/init.d/gdm <start/stop/restart>
[05:07] <Losha> message144: hard to say: it depends on you hardware, and your skill level. Which is more important to you? Being able to recover the data after a disk failure, or having no-one able to read it without authorization under any circumstances?
[05:07] <soreau> Blue1: I thought it was the first command you posted, only in karmic
[05:08] <crdlb> nytek_: so what isn't working now?
[05:08] <Blue1> soreau: but you can still do the same thing with sudo service
[05:08] <soreau> Blue1: ok
[05:08] <CAPcap> ok that brought me to a black sceen with some stuff and then back here.
[05:08] <dumdidumdum> soreau; thank you it worked
[05:08] <soreau> dumdidumdum: Cool :)
[05:08] <dumdidumdum> :)
[05:08] <nytek_> crdlb: everything is working, but when i plug in the headphones i need to go into the sound options and changed the sound output to headphones
[05:08] <futurama140> Blue1: should i reboot after installing the drivers? also, do you get the strange pixelation when trying to reboot or shut down, and if so, is there a fix for it?
[05:08] <Blue1> futurama140: it's easier - yes reboot
[05:09] <Blue1> futurama140: yeah the reboot should fix that...
[05:09] <ofosho> i am trying to install unr 9.10 on an asus eee pc, but the installer says that it cannot umount /cdrom in order to complete the install
[05:09] <message144> Losha, Its of course a tough call, but I think recovering the data quickly is a priority. I suppose I will just need to store the drive in a safe place
[05:09] <CAPcap> soreau now what?
[05:09] <Blue1> ofosho: did you md5sum the downloaded iso file?
[05:10] <Zylstra555> can someone check this URL for me and tell me if it is working? www.zylblog.info
[05:10] <futurama140> Blue1: all the drivers ive used so far have caused the weird pixel streaks on the screen which during that time the keyboard becomes unresponsive until i manually press the power button.
[05:10] <ofosho> i believe the partitioner is trying to install to the USB stick, not the HD
[05:10] <ofosho> the md5 is fine
[05:10] <futurama140> Blue1: will reboot now, brb.
[05:10] <Blue1> futurama140: it me be a peculiarity of your system
[05:10] <Blue1> ofosho: what device is it trying to install to?
[05:11] <lolhalplz> soreau: Solution?
[05:11] <nytek_> crdlb: btw, i dont have a mouse wheel. :( netbook :(
[05:12] <^Phantom^> Well, I guess I'll have to figure out the problem myself.  I hope I can get my files all backed up within the next year with the restarting bullcrap going on.  :(
[05:12] <soreau> CAPcap: See my private message
[05:12] <Losha> message144: I understand. I think encrypting the data on an internet connected machine, or a stealable laptop is probably reasonable. For the secure backup, I'd go for accessibility and rely on keeping it in a safe place
[05:13] <Blue1> nytek_: the problem with my netbook is the touch pad is too sensitive even at the lowest setting
[05:13] <slzar> is there a site with statistics about how many people use linux (and specifically ubuntu)?
[05:13] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Any issues using the Update manager to go from 8.10 to 9.04?
[05:13] <slzar> I hear so many numbers tossed aorund
[05:13] <crdlb> nytek_: you can emulate it by pressing left and right
[05:13] <nytek_> Blue1: i have that problem too, but you will get use to it. are you new to the netbook style of touchpad
[05:14] <futurama140> Blue1: i am back, and i just got this message when loading ubuntu:
[05:14] <Blue1> dsnyders: advice (personal exp) backup /etc/ and /home and do a fresh install upgrades don't work
[05:14] <nytek_> [freenode/#ubuntu]
[05:14] <Losha> slzar: very hard to get numbers. I think some magazine did a survey once. About as reliable as government unemployment statistics...
[05:14] <c_nick> Hi I lost out on my path can i regenerate it
[05:14] <^Phantom^>  I swear to god I'm gonna microwave this goddamn thing or something!
[05:14] <futurama140> Blue1: ok it wont paste, but it says the driver is not supported by this card, i am running in low graphics mode, and it says that it sees i have a monitor but it cant identify it.
[05:14] <c_nick> there was a command which i recently used to regenerate my PATH .. but i lost track of that command
[05:15] <Blue1> nytek_: yes new to netbook
[05:15] <hiatus> Slzar: since linux can be installed without a corporation spying on you and can come from multi vendors, its impossible to tell
[05:15] <^Phantom^> I can't even fucking backup my PICTURES to my backup drive without it restarting in the middle of the copying process!
[05:15] <^Phantom^> WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH MY UBUNTU!?
[05:15] <ofosho> blue1, i manually selected the HD, but it may still be trying to use the swap from the stick
[05:15] <ciber>  /join #ubuntu-mx  + ENTER
[05:16] <Blue1> rule #1 in dealing with digitial devices -- always have a path back to the way it was before you mucked it up - -rule #2 - always follow rule #1
[05:16] <Blue1> ofosho: usually usb drive are like sdcx -- is it trying to install to that?
[05:16] <c_nick> ^Phantom^:  Try from the Live Session Option
[05:16] <message144> Losha, any reccommendations if i should use --device with rsync when backing up?
[05:16] <nytek_> Blue1: yeah, i had the same problem but im getting use to it
[05:16] <nytek_> crdlb: btw, thank you so much for all the help.
[05:17] <^Phantom^> c_nick: And how do I get to the Live CD option?
[05:17] <c_nick> ^Phantom^: I think its to do with your mobo.. your mobo may perhaps failed.. I had recently got the similar problems
[05:17] <Blue1> nytek_: if you find a good solution though, let me know - http://www.pkill-9.com
[05:17] <^Phantom^> c_nick:  I mean Live Session option*
[05:17] <c_nick> ^Phantom^:  you need a Ubuntu CD
[05:17] <dsnyders> Blue1, Fresh install, eh?  I suppose I need to burn a CD, or can I install directly from the internet yet?
[05:17] <Blue1> futurama140: what was the error message?
[05:17] <c_nick> or a boot able Ubuntu USB
[05:17] <yellowhat89> @Losha, are you still with me?
[05:18] <Zylstra555> can someone check this URL for me and tell me if it is working? www.zylblog.info  -- It's causing a redirect loop on my computer for some odd reason.
[05:18] <Blue1> dsnyders: install cd
[05:18] <ray_> does anyone use boxee on ubuntu jaunty?
[05:18] <zen_master_soso> <- new to IRC (shame) Is there an IRC newbie channel?
[05:18] <futurama140> Blue1: it says the driver is not supported by this card, i am running in low graphics mode, and it says that it sees i have a monitor but it cant identify it.
[05:18]  * ^Phantom^ cries
[05:18] <Out_Cold> zen_master_soso, you mean for icr tips?
[05:18] <Losha> message144: no need to preserve devices or special files. If you have to replace your hardware that stuff all changes anyway. Just backup the stuff you can't replace
[05:18] <Blue1> futurama140: yeah it can't identify mine either - but can you set the refresh rate, and the resolution?
[05:18] <c_nick> ^Phantom^:  Boot from the CD select the live session - without installing to the m/c and there mount your HDDs which you want to use to transfer data.. and try ..
[05:19] <Losha> yellowhat89: I don't think I can help you further, sorry...
[05:19] <^Phantom^> c_nick: I accidentally broke my Live CD and that machine is the only one I have that I can burn one with.
[05:19] <zen_master_soso> yeah - just a few commands that I need to know.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[05:19] <message144> Losha, so you dont recommend backing up system files? Should I just stick to /var, /etc, and /home ?
[05:19] <dsnyders> zen_master_soso, All you have to do is ask your question and monitor the channel.   I think i'll just make it one by one... :D
[05:19] <Blue1> futurama140: WAIT
[05:20] <dsnyders> zen_master_soso, You won't find a better Ubuntu channel than right here.
[05:20] <zen_master_soso> can't read blogspot, thanks.  :P
[05:20] <zen_master_soso> (American in China)
[05:20] <Out_Cold> zen_master_soso, it doesn't mention these commands: /join #some-channel, /msg nickserv help, /msg chanserv help, /msg alis help
[05:20] <c_nick> you dont really need a CD.. you can also load ubuntu onto a USB and boot from that
[05:20] <zen_master_soso> what is chanserv?
[05:21] <Blue1> c_nick: yes
[05:21] <c_nick> ^Phantom^:  make a USB bootable disk
[05:21] <dsnyders> zen_master_soso, One tip, though.  This is a busy channel, so put the name of the person you are replying to at the beginning of your comments.
[05:21] <zen_master_soso> dsndyers: thanks!
[05:21] <hiatus> I prefer to boot from usb, it tends to be faster
[05:21] <ciber>  /join #ubuntu-mx  + ENTER
[05:21] <Out_Cold> zen_master_soso, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml might be of more assistance
[05:21] <c_nick> ^Phantom^: go to Ubuntu Forums i think there are loads of help offered there.. or best install image-writer "sudio apt-get install image-writer" and then use that make a bootable disk and u are all set to go
[05:22] <Losha> message144: there are a handful of files in /etc that I find useful to backup e.g. fstab, auto.master, exports etc. but unless your config is very unusual, only /home is irreplaceable. I don't even bother with /var
[05:22] <zen_master_soso> @Outcold: thx
[05:22] <c_nick> ^Phantom^: even 1 GB thumbdrive is good enough for you :) I dont think i need a CD
[05:22] <^Phantom^> c_nick: It seems to restart sooner if I use x-chat
[05:22] <Out_Cold> zen_master_soso, chanserv, nickserv, alis are all services offered on freenode.. check out /msg <service> help for more info
[05:22] <c_nick> ^Phantom^:  try my option and see
[05:22] <ciber>  /server irc.freenode.net
[05:23] <nytek_> crdlb: brilliant, clicking both buttoms work with opening links
[05:23] <^Phantom^> c_nick: I'm a failfag,  I swear I am the only person that doesn't have a usb flash drive
[05:23] <c_nick> ^Phantom^: if you use Ubuntu 9.10 which comes with Pidgin you can use that for connecting to IRC you dont even need an XCHAT or XCHAT_gnome :)
[05:23] <slzar> < on pidgin now
[05:24] <ciber>  / join #ubuntu-mx
[05:24] <Blue1> ^Phantom^: im lazy and use pidgin - the trick is, that if you go onto a different network - -you have to have a different nick
[05:24] <zen_master_soso> @OUt_cold: got it. did /msg help chanserv and I don't think I'll be needing it because I'm not going to become an admin or anything. Just need to know how to join channels and chat (which I haven't been able to figure out yet ;)
[05:24] <futurama140> Blue1: after doing what the message said, and rebooting, i get the same error when booting, and when trying to use the nvidia tool.
[05:24] <c_nick> ^Phantom^:  do you have another Operating System
[05:24] <Out_Cold> zen_master_soso, i sent you a private message, look for it on the side
[05:24] <Some_Person> I'm having trouble with Java in Epiphany -- it isn't working at all
[05:24] <^Phantom^> I used to have an 8gb flash drive but it got stolen just recently
[05:25] <c_nick> ^Phantom^: Install Windows.. try copying there and see.. you do get free software to read and write to an ext3 HDD
[05:25] <Blue1> futurama140: okay let's try this -- go into System/Preferences/Display/(say no)
[05:25] <c_nick> so basically you dont really require Linux to read an ext3 HDD
[05:25] <^Phantom^> i used to have XP home on the internal drive, but it got virus'd :(
[05:25] <c_nick> ^Phantom^:  reinstall
[05:25] <futurama140> Blue1: refresh says 0hz wont let me change it.
[05:26] <aleksej> Hallo
[05:26] <c_nick> ^Phantom^:  you have to get your ass working if you want some results :P
[05:26] <^Phantom^> c_nick: I tried to read the linux drive from that windows install before the virus but it wasn't able to read anything on it
[05:26] <Blue1> futurama140: yeah I was going to tell you this is what I did - I skipped the nvidia setup crap
[05:26] <c_nick> Ok i have a question .. i screwed up my path.. is there any way i can get back the default one
[05:26] <^Phantom^> I tried it on another windows computer and same thing
[05:27] <c_nick> ^Phantom^:  try other s/w... i got one which was able to read
[05:27] <c_nick> but i dont remember the name
[05:27] <aleksej> Can I ask a stupid question?
[05:28] <Blue1> aleksej: no charge go for it.
[05:28] <^Phantom^> I think it is probably because ubuntu is on an external drive, or do I need to unencrypt my home folder for it to work?
[05:28] <^Phantom^> Cause I've read that it won't work unless you unencrypt the home folder.
[05:29] <aleksej> I have installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my notebook, and sound does not work.
[05:29] <Blue1> aleksej: okay dumb answer -- did you do all the updates?
[05:29] <aleksej> Yeah.
[05:30] <sayed> I installed a USB sound card to interface with my sterio but it only works for OSS and with rhythmbox. VLC or the generic movie player do not play Audio. How do I correct this?
[05:30] <paissad> hi all, is it possible to block updates for some packages so that "aptitude safe-upgrade " does not update those softwares ?
[05:30] <Blue1> aleksej: okay what type of card?  hint  lspci | grep Audio
[05:30] <paissad> for example, i want no to receive anylonger update for the kernel !
[05:30] <futurama140> Blue1: what kind of card are you running though?
[05:31] <Blue1> futurama140: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)
[05:31] <rudolf_> i want to learn linux...so with which topic i should begin?
[05:31] <aleksej> Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[05:31] <Blue1> rudolf_: good book -- linux in a nutshell
[05:32] <futurama140> Blue1: ah, thats probably why the older driver is working for yours then. i suppose ill just try various drivers until i find one that works, or something.
[05:32] <paissad> is it possible to block updates for some packages so that "aptitude safe-upgrade " does not update those softwares ?
[05:32] <Blue1> aleksej: I have never dealt with HD so -- I can't help maybe someone else can
[05:32] <jumbers> Is there any way to have Ubuntu stop remembering the programs that are open? I clicked Remember Current Applications once and now every time I start up, it opens the same things
[05:32] <Blue1> futurama140: sorry I couldn't be of more help - what card do you have?
[05:32] <bastid_raZor> !pinning | paissad
[05:32] <futurama140> Blue1: im trying to play several graphically intense games and bypassing the nvidia setup shit just didnt cut it when i tried it :/
[05:33] <Blue1> futurama140: I am able to run compiz okay here...
[05:33] <futurama140> Blue1: im running a cheap geforce 210.
[05:33] <nytek_> Blue1: what netbook do you have?
[05:33] <Blue1> futurama140: you may need an older driver -- I don't know
[05:33] <onetinsoldier> jumbers: do you mean every time you log in it has the same apps open as when you logged out?
[05:33] <Blue1> nytek_: acer aspire
[05:33] <futurama140> Blue1: i see a lot about compiz in the forums and such but i have no clue what it is.
[05:33] <nytek_> Blue1: how much do you enjoy it?
[05:34] <Blue1> nytek_: well I did write an article on it
[05:34] <Blue1> futurama140: I dunno put compiz into youtube and that should show you better then I can explain
[05:34] <nytek_> Blue1: send me the link!
[05:35] <Blue1> nytek_: I'll send you the non ip one:  http://dhbctucson.org/wordpress/?p=305
[05:35] <Blue1> nytek_: non internationalpress -- it can be a bit complicated
[05:35] <futurama140> Blue1: ok, well thanks for the help though, im sure i'll either figure it out or someone around here will get a mental click from something i say and know exactly how to fix it from experience lol. its all about the mental "click"
[05:35] <nytek_> Blue1: kk
[05:36] <Blue1> futurama140: best of luck - sorry I couldn't be of better assistance
[05:36] <rudolf_> blue1, i have got that book
[05:36] <rudolf_> and i will start with it from today only
[05:37] <hiatus> What's futurama140's problem?
[05:37] <aleksej> Blue1: Which model of Acer Aspire?
[05:37] <Blue1> rudolf_: it's a good place to start - but hey ask questions - that's what we're here for - ru currently running windows?
[05:37] <rudolf_> yeah
[05:37] <Blue1> aleksej: I'm gonna say - d250 does that sound right?
[05:37] <nytek_> Blue1: im having some trouble with my headphone jack
[05:37] <Blue1> nytek_: I bought usb headphones...
[05:37] <nytek_> Blue1: :(
[05:38] <rudolf_> currently using windows...so i am totally a newbie
[05:38] <nytek_> Blue1: you couldnt find a fix?
[05:38] <Blue1> rudolf_: you may want to start with wubi - it's linux that runs under windows
[05:38] <lavin> im having trouble hadding repo's do i just got to "software sources-other sources-add source-enter repo-reload" but nothing is happening
[05:38] <aleksej> Blue1> d250?
[05:38] <mkagan> Hi I'm having an issue reinstalling GRUB after windows wiped it out. I try running sudo grub from a live cd but it says its not installed
[05:38] <Blue1> nytek_: naw wanted to use it on my desktop too
[05:38] <Blue1> aleksej: let me look
[05:39] <bastid_raZor> !fixgrub | mkagan
[05:39] <nytek_> Blue1: my problem is that when i plug in my headphones it plays out both the speaker and the headphones
[05:39] <rudolf_> blue1, i also have fedora and ubuntu DVDs.....are they not suitable for me?
[05:39] <aleksej> Blue1: At what?
[05:40] <Blue1> aleksej: yeah it just says d250 on it...
[05:40] <aleksej> Blue1: It?
[05:41] <Blue1> aleksej: I stupidly opted for 2 g of ram - god forbid I should ever use that much ram - the acer aspire - my netbook
[05:42] <c_nick> how to reset the path in ubuntu
[05:42] <^Phantom^> c_nick: http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#acc_ext3  <-- is that a good one?
[05:42] <onetinsoldier> jumbers: hello. you still need help? i think i found it...
[05:42] <jumbers> onetinsoldier: Sure, you found a solution?
[05:42] <Aboba> Anyone have any ideas why my wireless is capping out at about 60kB/sec on a fresh install of 9.10 when I was getting 800kB/sec+ on 9.04?
[05:42] <mkagan> bastid_raZor, so i take it its because im booting from a 9.10 cd? should i just boot from an 8.04 cd to run sudo grub?
[05:42] <c_nick> ^Phantom^: maybe you have to try it out
[05:43] <Skarpio> hi i have a problem with konversation, to open got an announcement that it had detected the sound hardware had been removed or something, I hit yes and now I hear no notice and if they are established, the sound hardware is properly connected, since all other pc sounds, music, videos can be heard to perfection ... someone can tell me how to configure the audio output to be used konversation? I use the gnome environment
[05:43] <airtonix> Aboba, no idea but : assume you are in control of the access point ?
[05:43] <Aboba> airtonix, correct
[05:43] <Blue1> Aboba: what type of wireless card?
[05:43] <onetinsoldier> jumbers: i'm not certain if this is what you're looking for, but try here... System - Preferences --> Startup Applications --> Options tab
[05:44] <Aboba> Blue1, PCI using rtl8180 driver
[05:44] <jumbers> onetinsoldier: Well, I clicked that button and now it remembers the same applications every time
[05:44] <tomatoes7> what up geoff918?
[05:44] <mkagan> anyone, is there a reason why grub isnt installed on a 9.10 live cd?
[05:44] <Blue1> Aboba: good support for that - dunno -- I had problems with my wireless on my netbook - had to backport
[05:45] <onetinsoldier> jumbers: do you have the option 'Automatically remember running applications when logging out' checked?
[05:45] <nyaa> awlright! I'm starting to build a computer and I want it to be compatible with at least ubuntu and maybe redhat too, where should I look?
[05:45] <tomatoes7> i got grub installed on my system from the 9.10 cd
[05:45] <bastid_raZor> mkagan: did you check the link ubottu sent you?
[05:45] <^Phantom^> k i'll try after this batch of files fin=
[05:45] <jumbers> onetinsoldier: It's currently unchecked. It remembers what was running when I clicked that button about a week ago
[05:45] <mkagan> tomatoes7, were you able to run sudo grub from a terminal while running a 9.10 livecd
[05:45] <Blue1> mkagan: the idea is that you can't mess up your install with the livecd
[05:46] <onetinsoldier> jumbers: roger. hmmm, i'm not sure. i'll try to look a little more though
[05:46] <Aboba> Blue1, Thanks
[05:47] <^Phantom^> OMG OMG OMG  I was not remembering right.  It was my 8GB SD card that got stoled, not my 8GB flash driv
[05:47] <Blue1> rudolf_: you can use what ever distro you like but wubi is a version of linux that runs under windows -- so you don't have to do anything complicated
[05:47] <pauloricardoas> hi people
[05:47] <indus> an installer
[05:47] <rudolf_> okies
[05:48] <indus> not a version
[05:48] <rudolf_> i am going to download it now
[05:48]  * ^Phantom^ hurries and copies the contents of the flash drive to this computer so he can make a live stick with it
[05:48] <AK|laptop> Anybody know of a Zork client for Linux? I'm searching around and can't find one.
[05:48] <mkagan> bastid_raZor, it seems that in order to keep both bootloaders (i.e. dualboot) i need to run grub from a live cd
[05:48] <Blue1> rudolf_: do you need the link for wubi?
[05:48] <onetinsoldier> jumbers: what about the 'Startup Programs' tab on that same little preference app i had you pull up. does your app show up in that tab?
[05:48] <mkagan> which is what i cant seem to do as it is not there
[05:48] <littlegirl> Hey there, my son just installed Karmic Koala 9.10 and is looking at gnome-look.org for themes. He wants to know if he should use gtk 1.x or gtk 2.x themes. Is there a way to tell which gtk Ubuntu uses?
[05:48] <rudolf_> yeah.
[05:48] <CAPcap> how do i make the grub2 menu open each time my computer boots?
[05:48] <rudolf_> give me please
[05:48] <bastid_raZor> mkagan: you're not reading the page.. i do not see 'sudo grub' anywhere on the page linked
[05:48] <Blue1> rudolf_: hang just a sec
[05:48] <indus> littlegirl, doesnt really matter i think
[05:48] <rudolf_> k
[05:48] <jumbers> onetinsoldier: Negative
[05:49] <onetinsoldier> jumbers: darn. roger
[05:49] <^Phantom^> I just happened to have downloaded the 9.10 livecd before the restart thing began, so I'll make a livestick with it and see if it also restarts without notice.
[05:49] <littlegirl> indus: I hope not, but is there a way to find out if it does?
[05:49] <indus> littlegirl, i think it only says that the theme used to come with older gtk
[05:49] <Blue1> rudolf_: http://wubi-installer.org/
[05:49] <indus> littlegirl, but just for info, ubuntu uses gtk 2
[05:49] <mkagan> bastid_raZor,  under "preserving WIndows Bootloader" which is what I am trying to do
[05:49] <jumbers> onetinsoldier: If all else fails, I'll close everything and click the button again
[05:49] <rudolf_> thanx
[05:49] <tomatoes7> geoff918, give me a sign that you are alive
[05:49] <onetinsoldier> jumbers: good luck
[05:50] <indus> littlegirl, well,just drag and drop the theme,and if it doesnt install ,its the wrong theme
[05:50] <Geoff918> I'm here
[05:50] <Blue1> rudolf_: if you have questions - come back
[05:50] <rudolf_> sure
[05:50] <Ganymede> looks like karmic uses gtk 2.18.3
[05:50] <tomatoes7> thank god
[05:50] <littlegirl> indus: Thanks, hehe, that's a good way to find out. (:
[05:50] <littlegirl> Ganymede: How did you find out?
[05:50]  * littlegirl uses Kubuntu.
[05:51] <littlegirl> This is our first time with Ubuntu, and he's checking it out before me. (:
[05:51] <^Phantom^> c_nick: is there any way to make just a livecd partition on a usb stick?
[05:51] <rudolf_> blue1, the link you gave is reported to be broken
[05:51] <mkagan> bastid_raZor, it says "Type grub which makes a GRUB prompt appear". When I do it on a 9.10 livecd it says it needs to be installed
[05:51] <tomatoes7> when does 10.4 get officially released?
[05:51] <^Phantom^> c_nick: ...or is it better to just use the entire stick?
[05:51] <Geoff918> April 29th, 2010
[05:51] <Aboba> What is the 9.10 equivilent of the 8.10 /grub/menu.lst?
[05:51] <nyaa> what's a good place to see if ubuntu is compatible with certain motherboards etc?
[05:52] <indus> nyaa, this is , but ubuntu works with almost all boards
[05:52] <c_nick> ^Phantom^:  usually its the entire stick
[05:52] <littlegirl> nyaa: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:52] <Geoff918> Aboba: there really isn't an equivalent. What are you trying to accomplish? there are some items in a directory that have codes as to their precedence. If you want to turn something off, you can do so there with a chmod -x type command.
[05:52] <nyaa> indus well I'm starting to plan out a desktop for moderate gaming and a ton of stupid experiments, I want to make sure it works well. is there a recommended board or?  oh.
[05:52] <sebsebseb> !grub2 |  Aboba
[05:53] <indus> nyaa, anything is recommended as far as its a good name brand
[05:53] <airtonix> Aboba, just out of interests sake i looked in the directory : /etc/grub.d/
[05:53] <Aboba> Geoff918, I'm trying to add pci=nomsi to my boot automatically, since it is required to detect my sata hard drive
[05:53] <bastid_raZor> mkagan: are you missing the previous step?
[05:54] <littlegirl> indus: Anything but the ASRock K10N78M board which my son just installed. Apparently that board will not let him set up a static IP for his life.
[05:54] <indus> littlegirl, thats not a board problem really
[05:54] <airtonix> Aboba, the file : /etc/grub.d/xx_custom might interst you (replace xx with some unique number)
[05:54] <littlegirl> indus: It's got built in ethernet.
[05:54] <Geoff918> Aboba: okay I'd have to research that one for you. The configuration is done automatically by the "update-grub" command. The output you'll see in the grub.cfg file or whatever it is (granted, I'm going off memory not having worked with it for some months)
[05:54] <^Phantom^> c_nick: k thx, i'll move the data off of it real quick...also I just noticed upon my second look at the image that it's a xubuntu 9.10 session...will that still work for what I want to do?
[05:54] <Aboba> airtonix, yea I was just looking through those
[05:55] <mkagan> bastid_raZor, the one that says boot from a cd?
[05:55] <c_nick> yeah sure
[05:55] <c_nick> Xubuntu Ubuntu Kubuntu all are nearly the same
[05:55] <lolhalplz> Hey guys.
[05:55] <LuksPartition> is 30c, or 86f a good temp for a hard-drive on ubuntu server?
[05:55] <lolhalplz> Just wanted to say my problems are solved.
[05:55] <c_nick> all you need is to backup your data.. just concentrate on that :)
[05:55] <lolhalplz> Bye.
[05:55] <airtonix> Aboba, looks fairly interesting to be honest... the whole setup seems to provide alot more oppurtunity for intersting things
[05:55] <c_nick> then you can play around figuring whats what
[05:56] <c_nick> Best of Luck
[05:56] <airtonix> c_nick, you talking to someone in particular ?
[05:56] <c_nick> yeah .. ^Phantom^
[05:57] <^Phantom^> c_nick: thankies...
[05:57] <c_nick> welcome
[05:57] <^Phantom^> heh i'm also gonna go look in my bucket of burned cds and see if i don't just happen to have another livecd buried in there somewhere heh
[05:57]  * airtonix wonders about the percentage of neglected support requests due to the difficulty of tracing a conversation
[05:58] <Aboba> Geoff918, You have to update the files in /etc/grub.d/ then run update-grub to rebuild your grub.cfg file
[05:58] <^Phantom^> liveusb is faster, though, isn't it?
[05:58] <Geoff918> Aboba: that's true, yeah
[05:59] <^Phantom^> oh sweet i have a 9.10 livecd
[05:59]  * ^Phantom^ tries it
[06:00] <^Phantom^> c_nick: i have a bucket full of burned cds that i just toss them into when i'm done using them, and it has like 50 or so in it
[06:00] <c_nick> ^Phantom^:  I think USB is faster.. but it should not make like a hugh difference..
[06:01] <c_nick> ^Phantom^: ok i hope u find what u r looking for in that bucket of urs
[06:02] <rww> LiveUSB is much faster than LiveCD for me.
[06:02] <^Phantom^> c_nick: ...and the 7th cd i pulled out is a live 9.10 i made to try installing on an old dell, but the old dell sucks and it didn't work so i just tossed the cd in there.  i hope it works
[06:02] <Geoff918> LiveUSB is WAY faster for me
[06:03] <paissad> if i want not to upgrade anymore the kernel, which action should i do ? .. echo "linux-image-generic hold" | dpkg --set-selections OR echo "linux-image-generic-2.6.31-17 hold" | dpkg --set-selections ?
[06:03] <c_nick> ^Phantom^: no problems.. it should work
[06:04] <^Phantom^> heh i hope so
[06:04] <^Phantom^> cause i do have one in that bucket that was a failed burn
[06:04] <LuksPartition> is 30c, or 86f a good temp for a hard-drive on ubuntu server?
[06:05] <Out_Cold> LuksPartition, i used to run at 50C
[06:05] <onetinsoldier> paissad: you can use aptitude --> sudo aptitude hold <package_name>
[06:05] <paissad> LuksPartition, 30°C is ok
[06:05] <LuksPartition> Out_Cold: ok :-P
[06:05] <Out_Cold> LuksPartition, just make sure there is airflow and all is good..
[06:05] <paissad> onetinsoldier, actually, i hesitate between the real package i should block .... linux-image-generic or linux-image-$VERSION-generic ?
[06:05] <DaZ> 30 is cold >:
[06:06] <LuksPartition> Out_Cold: I put a fan in recently to help with that
[06:06] <Out_Cold> LuksPartition, my tower box has 3 fans... 2 in/out 1 cpu
[06:07] <onetinsoldier> paissad: probably both. you'll have to figure that out ;-)
[06:07] <LuksPartition> Out_Cold: this machine has drives screwed in where the cd/dvd used to be so I put a fan in the front, not blowing on the disks but venting, and it seems to be working really well so far.
[06:07] <Geoff918> paissad: the generic is just the meta-package
[06:07] <Out_Cold> LuksPartition, with 30C i'd say so
[06:07] <paissad> Geoff918, and then ? ... i should block the linux-image-$version-generic ?
[06:08] <Geoff918> paissad: I'd just try both, the kernel should still be there regardless of update. It shouldn't just delete old kernels
[06:08] <^Phantom^> ooh that 9.10 loading bar is kinda cool looking :D
[06:08] <LuksPartition> Out_Cold: yea, thats what hddtemp is telling me about the sata disk, its saying the ide has no sensor which im not sure if it does or not.
[06:08] <Geoff918> paissad: you may as well it really shouldn't hurt anything
[06:08] <paissad> Geoff918, i did delete old kernels already, but i just don't want to upgrade anymore ! :)
[06:08] <Out_Cold> LuksPartition, i remember an old windows app that used ide temp guages so i am pretty sure they are implemented.
[06:09] <CAPcap> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Where%20did%20my%20Grub2%20boot%20menu%20go!?!?!
[06:09] <CAPcap> how do i save and exit after that?
[06:09] <Geoff918> paissad: well, you're going about it correctly. You can do the pinning option, or you could just make sure you're not selecting the kernel packages on upgrade manually (I know, far less elegant)
[06:09] <LuksPartition> Out_Cold: oh yea, hddtemp will show the temp of an ide drive, its just whether or not it has a sensor, and if it does whether or not the drive is in the database for hddtemp.
[06:09] <Out_Cold> CAPcap, ctrl + x, y (yes)
[06:09] <^Phantom^> If this runs for a while without -
[06:10] <CAPcap> thats Out_Cold
[06:10] <LuksPartition> Out_Cold: thats what I gained from the manual anyway
[06:10] <^Phantom^> oh oh oh
[06:10] <Out_Cold> CAPcap, ctrl + x, y (yes), enter ;)
[06:10] <^Phantom^> hey something i didn't know before
[06:11] <Out_Cold> ^Phantom^, i always learn more from in here than i help... always something new, not used, unknown..
[06:12] <Out_Cold> ubottu is my study buddy ;)
[06:12] <^Phantom^> this livecd session has a little disk with an orange trangle containing a ! inside of it that says one or more disks are failing.
[06:12] <Out_Cold> my unintelligent study buddy
[06:12] <Out_Cold> ^Phantom^, may need to run fsck in terminal
[06:12] <LuksPartition> ^Phantom^: is it a smart-status report ?
[06:13] <robert__> in the login session whats the difference between xubuntu desktop and xfce desktop besides how they look?
[06:14] <Geoff918> ^Phantom^: That's not so cool. It's usually pretty accurate, though. If you use Pamplimpsest you should be able to run a full scan and find out *what* is the status report actually complaining about
[06:15] <Aboba> Anyone have any ideas why my wireless is capping out at about 60kB/sec on a fresh install of 9.10 when I was getting 800kB/sec+ on 9.04?
[06:15] <^Phantom^> It says the 120 GB Hard Disk (the internal one, not my ubuntu one) has many bad sectors in bold red lettering.  Could that be the reason the machine keeps restarting?
[06:15] <robert__> in the login session whats the difference between xubuntu desktop and xfce desktop besides how they look?
[06:15] <kinja-sheep> mr-not-so-rich.  Go away. :(
[06:15] <zen_master_soso> Out_Cold: back using xchat
[06:15] <kinja-sheep> robert__: Not lot of differences in functionality, I would imagine.
[06:16] <Out_Cold> kinja-sheep, in xchat and most other clients you can hide join/part messages
[06:16] <DaZ> robert__: /etc/X11/sessions/
[06:16] <DaZ> and check it [;
[06:17] <nascentmind> hi. When i upgraded from hardy to karmic there was a problem with adobe plugin and it is in an inconsistent state. how do i fix it?
[06:17] <zen_master_soso> nascentmind, have you tried 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install [appname]'?
[06:17] <Out_Cold> !flash | nascentmind, start here:
[06:17] <kinja-sheep> Out_Cold: Yeah. I made a XChat theme so join/part are dark-gray on background is less annoying. All messages are white (ie convo). :)
[06:17] <nascentmind> zen_master_soso, yes i have done that.
[06:17] <kinja-sheep> s/background/black background
[06:18] <nomnex> Help with permissions: How do I change recursively the folders perms in (default) "dwxr-xr-x" and the files inside the folders in (default) "-rw-r--r--" with one command? when I chmod -R, folders&files change
[06:18] <nascentmind> zen_master_soso, it says dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--remove):Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[06:19] <kinja-sheep> nomnex: Run a command for (inside).  Then run another command (w/o recursive).
[06:19] <zen_master_soso> nomnex, good one. had that before. try: chmod +d `find . -type f`
[06:19] <Geoff918> nomnex: are you sure you want to go recursive with something like that? I think I broke my ubuntu install 2 or 3 times the first couple months I was using it because of commands such as that
[06:19] <rwhr> Hi everyone, I'm looking for an app that will help with basic stock control of a car clubs merchandise, can someone here help me or direct me to the correct channel? Thanks.
[06:19] <nomnex> zen_master_soso, gotta try this. thanks
[06:20] <Out_Cold> rwhr, like excel or different?
[06:20] <Geoff918> rwhr: stock control--such as a database? or what are you looking for?
[06:20] <zen_master_soso> nomnex, find lists the files that match recursively, but you can limit the depth
[06:20] <nomnex> zen_master_soso, how do I limit depth?
[06:21] <Flannel> meh?
[06:21] <rww> Flannel: ur doin it rong :(
[06:21] <nascentmind> zen_master_soso, any chance of a fix?
[06:21] <zen_master_soso> nomnex, man find, i think it's --depth 1
[06:21] <kinja-sheep> Flannel: Thank you. :)
[06:21] <rwhr> Yes and yes. I found an excel database template, but I need something out of the box that will work for me. I'm also running open office, but I couldn't find anything for that either.
[06:21] <nomnex> zen_master_soso, thanks a bunch
[06:21] <Flannel> kinja-sheep: Should've pinged #ubuntu-ops earlier :)
[06:22] <zen_master_soso> nascentmind, Adobe flash is still giving me problems on my system.
[06:22] <kinja-sheep> Flannel: should/could/would.  Next time, buddy. :)
[06:22] <^Phantom^> Flannel, I doubt it's connection problems.
[06:22] <DaZ> nomnex: chmod +x $(find . -maxdepth 1  -type d)
[06:22] <nascentmind> zen_master_soso, well i just want to remove it from my system. it has broken my apt i guess.
[06:22] <DaZ> imo works :f
[06:22] <Geoff918> rwhr: If you're looking for a good database setup, perhaps PostgreSQL? Of course, OpenOffice.org has Base which uses HSQL if you use the native server in it
[06:22] <Out_Cold> rwhr, excel sheets work in open office, but you can create your own... or maybe find something that uses SQL
[06:22] <^Phantom^> That person is always getting the excess flood thing.  I'll bet they're trying to spam somewhere...
[06:22] <nascentmind> zen_master_soso, should i do a dpkg --remove packagename ?
[06:22] <^Phantom^> OH OH OH I now know that it's not my ubuntu install that's doing the restarts!!!!  It just restarted while I was in the livecd session!  I'm gonna pull out that internal drive and see if maybe that is what's making the system restart like it does.
[06:23] <nomnex> DaZ, Nice, thanks
[06:23] <zen_master_soso> nascentmind, don't know. sorry.
[06:23] <rwhr> I'm not really up to speed in making a database which is why I thought that I'd try to find one already made.
[06:23] <rww> ^Phantom^: or they're trying to join channels too quickly, which is much more likey.
[06:23] <zen_master_soso> nascentmind, I'm going to have to dig into that soon, but I'm not looking forward to it.
[06:24] <gheddy_zarc> what does hal do in ubuntu ? like with usb switches and dialers etc
[06:24] <Out_Cold> there are irc scripts that auto-join when kicked/booted, maybe they are at work and it was left on..
[06:24] <nascentmind> zen_master_soso, how do i generally solve apt errors?
[06:24] <Geoff918> rwhr: Ah, okay. What sort of functionality do you need for basic stock control? Check-in, check-out? date-in, date-out?
[06:24] <c_nick> even though i try to set the path via my Makefile.. it echos it on the terminal but does not properly set the path
[06:25] <zen_master_soso> nascentmind, Wow. that's a BIG question, dontcha think?
[06:25] <Out_Cold> nascentmind, /join #ubuntu :p
[06:25] <nytek_> crdlb: everything is working perfect now :D
[06:25] <nytek_> crdlb: thanks again
[06:25] <phong_> i'm having trouble....
[06:25] <phong_> i can't boot windows anymoer
[06:25] <rwhr> Just ID, Description, Stock Number, Supplier - Purchase price and sell price would be a bonus. And of course the ability to add and subtract stock. I'm half tempted to make a spreadsheet instead, it's just the reporting flexibility that I find nice in the databases.
[06:26] <phong_> how to fix my boot grub
[06:26] <Out_Cold> !grub
[06:26] <Geoff918> rwhr: that would be easy to do with a spreadsheet. Honestly, for something that basic, a single table in OOo Base would do fine
[06:26] <phong_> i have 1 hd   and 2 partitions
[06:26] <zen_master_soso> nascentmind, My current adobe flash problem has to do with the repository not being added correctly. it can't find the right package, even though the repository is listed! ARGHH! Wish I could help you more.
[06:27] <nascentmind> zen_master_soso, oh i thought your adobe plugin was not working fine on your browser :)
[06:27] <Geoff918> rwhr: You wouldn't even need a relational database, though the ability to have a table listing the supplier's names and details could be really nice.
[06:27] <phong_> let say i have 1 hd of 250GB, 150 GB is for windows .....the remainning is   swap area , /  and /home   ......why now that it boot into grub....when i select windows 7 from the list nothing boot
[06:27] <phong_> please help
[06:27] <zen_master_soso> nascentmind, that is correct. But the browser plugin is still installed from a repository
[06:28] <sjohnson> Q: how do I find out if i'm running 64bit, or 32-bit Ubuntu?
[06:28] <^Phantom^> Is it at all possible that it's that failing internal hard drive that's causing the random restarts?
[06:28] <blakkheim> sjohnson: uname -m
[06:28] <sjohnson> blakkheim: says i686
[06:28] <blakkheim> sjohnson: 32
[06:28] <zen_master_soso> nascentmind, did you download the .deb file, or are you installing from the repository over the internet?
[06:28] <nascentmind> zen_master_soso, yes got that. but i thought yours was not  a repo problem
[06:28] <rwhr> OK, thanks... I'll try that and if all else fails I'll be back... As for the suppliers name, etc, I could always link that to another tab, etc... Thanks Geoff918 and Out_Cold - Sorry I can't reply the way you do, I was under the impression that I could type in the start of your alias and then press [Tab] but that didn't work...
[06:28] <sjohnson> blakkheim: thanks
[06:28] <Geoff918> rwhr: You might try to set-up something basic in Base just because the whole interface is really intuitive and easy. You don't really need to understand anything about DBs in order to make one on the level you're talking about. Queries are easily pulled in the same manner (graphically)
[06:29] <zen_master_soso> nascentmind, mine is a repo problem.
[06:29] <nascentmind> zen_master_soso, it was installed previously. somehow when i did an upgrade everything worked fine except this. now i can't use the repo to install other packages until i fix this.
[06:29] <nascentmind> zen_master_soso, i just want to yank this out of my repo. i can live without flash
[06:29] <zen_master_soso> nascentmind, you can't use the repo? Why? is your sources.list messed up?
[06:29] <TimReichhart> can somebody tell me how to update : DBI_DRIVER
[06:29] <phong_> helppppppppp
[06:29] <nascentmind> zen_master_soso, it gives the error as i showed above
[06:30] <zen_master_soso> nascentmind, I din't see that error
[06:30] <Out_Cold> rwhr, the tab completion is client dependant. pidgin doesn't use it
[06:31] <rwhr> Looks like ChatZilla doesn't either LOL
[06:31] <SolarisBoy> my pidgin does it for xmpp
[06:31] <Geoff918> Out_Cold: Apparently Empathy does. Didn't know that one, but it's nice to know the tools I love on the CLI are available to me here :)
[06:32] <nascentmind> zen_master_soso, E: flashplugin-nonfree: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[06:32] <rwhr> Thanks again all, have fun with Ubuntu, I am :)
[06:32] <zen_master_soso> nascentmind, ouch!
[06:32] <^Phantom^> oh, i just thought of something
[06:32] <TimReichhart> can somebody tell me how to update : DBI_DRIVER anybody?
[06:32] <holyguyver> I have no sound & under default mixer tracks it only gives me two options & both of them are null options. it was not like this 3 hours ago. I was playing music on Rythmabox & all of a sudden lost sound.
[06:33] <nascentmind> zen_master_soso, yes. sigh!
[06:33] <Out_Cold> Geoff918, tools carried over make irc a real treat for some... i know a lot of irc bots that use cli style commands
[06:33] <nascentmind> zen_master_soso, the only option is to do a dpkg --remove i guess
[06:33] <holyguyver> Please help
[06:33] <zen_master_soso> nascentmind, I had a bad experience upgrading to Jaunty Jackalope. Ended up doing a fresh reinstall.
[06:34] <nascentmind> zen_master_soso, sigh! man it took me almost 9 hrs to go through this upgrade
[06:34] <^Phantom^> is it possible the usb port the linux drive is plugged into is going bad?
[06:34] <holyguyver> Please help me
[06:34] <holyguyver> I have no sound & under default mixer tracks it only gives me two options & both of them are null options. it was not like this 3 hours ago. I was playing music on Rythmabox & all of a sudden lost sound.
[06:34] <zen_master_soso> nascentmind, back at you. I felt the same way. mine was a horribly screwed up X.
[06:35] <Geoff918> ^Phantom^: When you were talking about your problem earlier I was wondering if you were having an electrical problem
[06:35] <holyguyver> !ubottu
[06:35] <holyguyver> !help
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[06:36] <holyguyver> I have no sound & under default mixer tracks it only gives me two options & both of them are null options. it was not like this 3 hours ago. I was playing music on Rythmabox & all of a sudden lost sound.
[06:36] <^Phantom^> Geoff918: i've been using the same port to boot ubuntu since october 2008, maybe that port is wearing out?
[06:36] <^Phantom^> i'm gonna try booting with it in a different port
[06:37] <holyguyver> !sound
[06:37] <zen_master_soso> ^Phantom^, ports last 10 years or more before wearing out
[06:37] <Geoff918> ^Phantom^: Well, it could be that, yes. I just saw someone's USB port go down recently
[06:37] <^Phantom^> or maybe it's this battery?
[06:37] <zen_master_soso> I change my ssh port every few months.
[06:37] <holyguyver> Fine then ubottu is my only helper
[06:37] <^Phantom^> linux tells me it may be old or broken every time it boots up
[06:38] <Geoff918> zen_master_soso: Well, an old HP of a friend of mine had a USB port die recently
[06:38] <LuksPartition> if fsck says: recovering journal /dev/sda1: clean, 9423/19537920 files, 32231901/78142549 blocks mean fsck found anything wrong with the filesystem or no?
[06:39] <faileas> nope
[06:39] <zen_master_soso> LuksPartition, looks like a no
[06:39] <^Phantom^> maybe there's something the battery is doing that is shorting it out and causing the restarts?
[06:39] <LuksPartition> zen_master_soso: aight thanks
[06:39] <[J]ustin> !java | [J]ustin
[06:39] <zen_master_soso> absolute newbie IRC question: how do you gracefully leave a channel (without CONNECTION_RESET, or "Client Quit")?
[06:40] <^Phantom^> it's a battery from another laptop that is the same model, and i don't recall the system ever restarting unannounced before swapping the two
[06:40] <Geoff918> ^Phantom^: well, you're on a laptop I would assume then. Have you tried it plugged in constantly and see if the problem persists?
[06:40] <kinja-sheep> zen_master_soso: /part #ubuntu
[06:40] <^Phantom^> it's always plugged in
[06:41] <zen_master_soso> kinja-sheep, thanks. is there a way to set a parting message?
[06:41] <kinja-sheep> zen_master_soso: /part #ubuntu Only if I have spent all of that money on the ropes instead
[06:41] <faileas> lol
[06:41] <^Phantom^> Geoff918: ...especially since the inverter went bad and i am stuck using an external monitor now
[06:41] <Geoff918> ^Phantom^: Okay. Well, the battery shouldn't much matter then. Some laptops do require the battery, but others don't. My laptops don't care if the battery is in unless I pull the plug (obviously)
[06:42] <kinja-sheep> zen_master_soso: Some IRC clients allows you to use parting messages (by default) on settings.
[06:42] <zen_master_soso> kinja-sheep, just installed xchat an hour ago
[06:43] <^Phantom^> well, i'm running with the hdd in a different port now.
[06:43] <[J]ustin> Whats a good IRC client?
[06:43] <zen_master_soso> it's been a long time on IRC. I used to have a roommate that was addicted to mIRC. back in the day....
[06:44] <DNS777> [J]ustin: konversation or kvirc
[06:44] <kinja-sheep> [J]ustin: Irssi, weechat, Xchat, mIRC, Pidgin, Freenode Web-Based, Mibbit.
[06:44] <DNS777> [J]ustin: in my opinion ;)
[06:44] <^Phantom^> i'll keep an eye on the thing and see if it restarts itself while i'm on the different port
[06:44] <faileas> [J]ustin: lostirc, konversation, xchat, irssi
[06:44] <[J]ustin> XChat looks good
[06:44] <^Phantom^> thank you guys for putting up with me for however many hours i've been in here crying and complaining about my problem
[06:44] <Geoff918> ^Phantom^: it sounds a reasonable test
[06:44] <faileas> xchat is the ubuntu default ;)
[06:45] <holyguyver> I have no sound & under default mixer tracks it only gives me two options & both of them are null options. it was not like this 3 hours ago. I was playing music on Rythmabox & all of a sudden lost sound.
[06:45] <^Phantom^> i'm glad it's not the ubuntu install
[06:45] <zen_master_soso> holyguyver, have you tried turning it off and turning it back on again?
[06:45] <^Phantom^> when i get a new laptop in the future, i can just plug this drive into it and boot and run ubuntu on there, right?
[06:45] <holyguyver> Yes I have tried restarting pulse
[06:46] <nytek_> faileas: irssi should be the ubuntu default :)
[06:46] <faileas> lol
[06:46] <holyguyver> zen_master_soso,  Yes I have tried restarting pulse
[06:46] <faileas> nytek_: cli is not for everyone
[06:46] <zen_master_soso> holyguyver, that was a sort of tongue-in-cheek question
[06:46] <nytek_> faileas: true. for some reason, it has a place in my heart
[06:46] <holyguyver> Well it failed to be funny
[06:46] <faileas> nytek_: for gui clients, i loke lostirc
[06:46] <nytek_> faileas: and especially on my netbook
[06:46] <zen_master_soso> holyguyver, sorry.
[06:46] <faileas> its lightweight, but... guiish
[06:46] <[J]ustin> Can anyone show me a tutorial/help me on how to make my Ubuntu desktop have a static local IP address (<IP_ADDRESS>) - Like disable the DCHP (not sure what its called) server
[06:47] <zen_master_soso> holyguyver, seriously, I wish I could help you.
[06:47] <holyguyver> zen_master_soso, so are you going to try & help me?
[06:47] <nytek_> faileas: im actually thinking about moving strictly to a tiling wm
[06:47] <Geoff918> ^Phantom^: Yeah, sure no reason why you shouldn't be able to
[06:47] <^Phantom^> Cool!
[06:47] <^Phantom^> Thank you much.
[06:47] <faileas> nytek_: my spare box is openbox + cairodock . Its a nice mix of shininess ad low resource usage
[06:47] <^Phantom^> So far so good.
[06:48] <faileas> *and
[06:48] <nytek_> faileas: im running xfce with about 6 terminals open between two desktops
[06:48] <zen_master_soso> anyone have experience with AWB?
[06:48] <^Phantom^> I'm gonna up and do some things while the thing is running right now :D
[06:48] <faileas> lol
[06:48] <nytek_> faileas: i rarely use gui apps now
[06:48] <holyguyver> My only listed sound options are null, can someone help?
[06:48] <nytek_> faileas: its scarey.. lol
[06:48] <faileas> nytek_: i use yakuake. about 4 tabs at the moment, but its cause i'm still not certain about my ipv6 setuo
[06:48] <faileas> setup
[06:49] <soreau> [J]ustin: Have you tried looking in Sys>Prefs>Network Connections?
[06:49] <nytek_> faileas: ahh, you're running kde?
[06:49] <[J]ustin> Any way to do it via SSH?
[06:50] <faileas> nytek_: kde on one box. if i were running gnome, i'd be using guake
[06:50] <holyguyver> My system as of 3 hours ago is no longer detecting my soundcard.
[06:50] <^Phantom^> yay still running smooth
[06:50] <^Phantom^> about now is one of the common unannounced reboot moments
[06:50] <becker_11> I've just connected my new digi camera to my linux box how do I find the filesystem to mount it??
[06:50] <zen_master_soso> holyguyver, maybe the problem IS your soundcard.
[06:50] <nytek_> faileas: i say away from thoses wm's. i like lightweight and miminialistic things
[06:51] <nytek_> faileas: stay*
[06:51] <faileas> nytek_: the other one runs openbox and guake ;p
[06:51] <holyguyver> zen_master_soso, it has worked for the past 2 years with Ubuntu
[06:51] <Jonathan_Glam> Hi. I'm currently (trying) to install Ubuntu 9.10 on my comp as dual boot (I have Windows 7 already installed). I initially made it so that I have two seperate partitions, one for windows and one planned for Ubuntu. I haven't touched that Ubuntu partition (ie: not formated or anything. Completely blank). When trying to install Ubuntu into that parition I get the following message: 'No root...
[06:51] <Jonathan_Glam> ...file system defined. Please correct'. How could I go about doing this? Is there a good online guide? Thanks
[06:51] <Geoff918> ^Phantom^: Good, good. It's late where I am, I've got to get to bed. I hope this works out for you. :)
[06:51] <nytek_> faileas: but, if i had a desktop, i would definitely run gnome or kde
[06:51] <nytek_> faileas: :)
[06:51] <Duskao> can anyone help me install kde-cdemu from kde-apps.org?
[06:51] <zen_master_soso> holyguyver, I usually have a dual-boot win/linux setup. Can you boot into another os and check it? How about the live CD?
[06:51] <Duskao> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDE+CDEmu+Manager?content=99752
[06:52] <Duskao> I know I'm talking about kubuntu stuff, but the #kubuntu seems to be AFK
[06:52] <holyguyver> No I cannot boot into a differant OS I have been using Linux as my only OS for the past 6 years (but only owned this computer for 2 years)
[06:52] <zen_master_soso> Jonathan_Glam, You can't boot your computer from your hard drive until you have finished the ubuntu install
[06:52] <faileas> nytek_: 'spare' box is a Pentium M banias 1.5. 256mb ram, 4 gb flashdrive for boot. most netbooks are more powerful.
[06:52] <holyguyver> zen_master_soso, No I cannot boot into a differant OS I have been using Linux as my only OS for the past 6 years (but only owned this computer for 2 years)
[06:52] <zen_master_soso> holyguyver, seriously, try booting from a cd/
[06:52] <soreau> [J]ustin: ifconfig <interface> <IP>
[06:53] <nytek_> faileas: yeah lol, thats a pretty old machine.. but the beauty about linux is that it can run on an machine.
[06:53] <faileas> nytek_: lol. my server is a piii 450
[06:53] <holyguyver> zen_master_soso, so you are suggesting ym soundcard may have died?
[06:53] <faileas> 640 mb ram
[06:53] <Jonathan_Glam> zen_master_soso: I cancelled the install process to switch to Windows to ask about this. I won't let me install at all. Says I have to define the root file system. How do I do that?
[06:53] <nytek_> faileas: lol, i have a lenovo s10e netbook and a acer aspire 5100.
[06:53] <faileas> could run kde or gnome if i swapped the video card i think
[06:53] <zen_master_soso> holyguyver, at least rule out hardware problems. it could be something as simple as cleaning the card edge connector.
[06:53] <nytek_> faileas: my acer is running win7 for horrible vb programming. damn university
[06:54] <holyguyver> zen_master_soso, I no nothing about hardware, I am a software guy only.
[06:54] <zen_master_soso> Jonathan_Glam, you're saying that the install CD won't run at all?
[06:54] <Duskao> change your bios so it boots to cd first.
[06:55] <holyguyver> zen_master_soso, I don't even exactly know what a soundcard is physicalled, I only know what it is software wise.
[06:55] <zen_master_soso> holyguyver, well, if it works with the Ubunjtu LiveCD, then you know for sure that you don't have a hardware problem
[06:55] <amites> Is there anyway to revert packages after running upgrade all through the synaptic package manager?
[06:55] <faileas> nytek_: that's a 10 year old, second hand box. still has all  its teeth ;p. only things i changed were the hard drive (i have quite a few at the moment) and the psu (which exploded)
[06:55] <Jonathan_Glam> zen_master_soso: No not at all. Sorry I didn't make myself clear. What I'm say is that when I try to install it (I go through the steps) and I ask it to install to that seperate parition that I have left for the intention of Ubuntu it asks me to have defined the root file system. How do I do so?
[06:55] <turtle^s0up> hi all
[06:55] <Duskao> please is there anyone that can help me?
[06:55] <turtle^s0up> is the Kubuntu plasma indicator widget important? can i remove it and have KDE's notification applet do it's job?
[06:55] <nytek_> faileas: lol, i love the fact that unix is still going strong. the community keeps it alive.
[06:56] <amites> Duskao: asking intelligent questions is 90% of the answer
[06:56] <holyguyver> zen_master_soso, lets pretend that we know it is not a failed soundcard, can you simply tell me to bash script to have it re-load my soundcards?
[06:56] <zen_master_soso> Jonathan_Glam, This is a dual boot system which will still boot into Windows?
[06:56] <Duskao> can anyone help me install kde-cdemu from kde-apps.org?
[06:56] <Duskao> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDE+CDEmu+Manager?content=99752
[06:56] <nytek_> faileas: its the only os that can run any hardware
[06:56] <zen_master_soso> holyguyver, no, I'm sorry but I don't know.
[06:56] <nytek_> faileas: and everything that is done for these machines are done for free! open source ftw!
[06:56] <Duskao> amites how is my question not intelligent? I'm new to cmake/make stuff and would like help with it.
[06:57] <nytek_> Duskao: it has instructions, follow them.
[06:57] <Jonathan_Glam> zen_master_soso: Not yet. I am yet to install Ubuntu. I have Windows7 running and I have a seperate partition created into which I want to install Ubuntu 9.10 (so that it doesn't overide my Windows install that I need for some specific work jobs)
[06:57] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: i think you can use this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~mark-baas123/+archive/ppa
[06:57] <holyguyver> Zen_Okay my sound is working again, I fixed it
[06:57] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: actually use this instead: https://launchpad.net/~cdemu/+archive/ppa
[06:57] <amites> Duskao: Your first question was "can anyone help me"
[06:58] <holyguyver> zen_master_soso, Okay my sound is working again, I fixed it.
[06:58] <zen_master_soso> holyguyver, man I'm sorry I couldn't help. What was the problem?
[06:58] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: the second link seems more dedicated to CDEmu
[06:58] <Duskao> amites that was not my first question, scroll up farther.
[06:58] <becker_11> how do I know where in the /dev folder my digital camera would be located ??
[06:58] <holyguyver> zen_master_soso, I do not know what the problem was, but the salution was "sudo alsa force-reload
[06:58] <holyguyver> "
[06:58] <Duskao> turtle, yeah I already have the cdemu ppa in my repos, just trying to get the gui up and running, and getting errors.
[06:59] <holyguyver> zen_master_soso, I tried every bash cammand until I found one that wrked :p
[06:59] <zen_master_soso> Jonathan_Glam, the partition manager should do the trick at that point in the install.
[06:59] <Duskao> one sec, I'll have it up
[06:59] <becker_11> how do I know where in the /dev folder my digital camera would be located ?? please
[06:59] <amites> Duskao: my apologies, haven't been in this room to long
[07:00] <zen_master_soso> holyguyver, that's a good fix. nice to know that alsa has a "force-reload" command
[07:00] <Duskao> http://pastebin.org/84792
[07:00] <pbtraveller> hi, can anyone help me with a problem related to a corrupted filesystem? I have turned on file encryption during installation. After writing docs to it via windows ubuntu doesn't boot up anymore. fsck suggests to be run manually; boot fails with modprobe:Fatal: Error inserting padlock_sha ...
[07:00] <Jonathan_Glam> zen_master_soso: Hmm. So it should be automatic? I'll give it another shot, if it doesn't work I'll come back. Thanks for your help!
[07:00] <zen_master_soso> Jonathan_Glam, be careful
[07:01] <holyguyver> zen_master_soso, have a good night.
[07:01] <chakrit> In UNR 9.10 since there're no longer desktop-switcher package, what do I use instead?
[07:01] <Jonathan_Glam> zen_master_soso: I will. THanks
[07:01] <zen_master_soso> Jonathan_Glam, the partition manager could wipe your system.
[07:01] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: do you have the "build-essential" package installed?
[07:02] <zen_master_soso> Does anyone know how to make minor adjustments to gnome themes?
[07:02] <Duskao> that could be the problem, I don't believe I do
[07:02] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: you need build-essential to compile
[07:03] <zen_master_soso> I'm gettting too used to being able to fix annoyances on my favorite websites using Stylist. Fluxbox is incredibly easy to style. How do you get started styling gnome?
[07:03] <Duskao> actually, yeah I do
[07:03] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: still gives you the message?
[07:03] <[J]ustin> !chmod
[07:03] <Duskao> yep, I'll remove and reinstall it
[07:04] <yadi> cew_cri tmn
[07:04] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: try reading the Readme file that comes with the source. it sometimes tells you what packages you need exactly to compile the software
[07:05] <zen_master_soso> How hard to tweak Gnome themes? Anyone ever play with themes?
[07:05] <airtonix> zen_master_soso, they are xml based...
[07:05] <Duskao> he actually doesn't have a readme with it, just the instructions on the web page.
[07:06] <zen_master_soso> And does anyone know how to turn the title bar off in openbox or fluxbox? I'm trying to make a "Google Chrome Kiosk" build. Absolutely minimal - just network and browser.
[07:06] <airtonix> !who > Duskao
[07:06] <zen_master_soso> airtonix, after editing the xml, does it need to be compiled?
[07:06] <airtonix> zen_master_soso, you don't compile.
[07:07] <zen_master_soso> airtonix, didn't know that. I know where I'll be poking around when I get home tomight. ;)
[07:07] <ethzero> anyone good with bash scripting here/
[07:07] <ethzero> ?
[07:07] <airtonix> zen_master_soso, simply change back and forth between another theme to reload your changes
[07:08] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: did you check my pastebin before?
[07:08] <GoSox> how can I tell what version of KDE i'm using on this system?
[07:08] <[J]ustin> Is their a way to get the 'no-ip' application on Ubuntu?
[07:08] <zen_master_soso> airtonix, that sounds pretty simple
[07:08] <kinja-sheep> [J]ustin: aptitude search noip
[07:08] <airtonix> zen_master_soso, wait till you try to get an api of the theme settings...
[07:09] <bullgard> Launchpad reports: "Our edge server has a lower timeout threshold than launchpad, so we can catch those before they hit a  wider audience." -- What is an "edge server"
[07:09] <Flannel> bullgard: edge is the development LP server
[07:09] <turtle^s0up> Duskao, yes, try installing "libphonon-dev"
[07:09] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: it seems like you're missing the dependency
[07:09] <Serraphyn> Hey guys, I was hoping maybe you guys could help me with some stuff in ubuntu.  I want to learn to do development in linux like I used to do in windows.  I've work with Vb3-vb6 and some .net(not much tbh) some very minor java stuff, to much php(is there such a thing) and if anyone remembers Clarion I used to build DB apps in it.  So anyone got an idea of an IDE or some set of tools that I could start learning to develop visual applications for linux w
[07:09] <Serraphyn> ith?
[07:09] <zen_master_soso> GoSox, in Gnome, you can find that info in the System monitor applet - the thing that shows your CPU usage. It's on the first tab. Don't know about KDE. Look around.
[07:10] <GoSox> i assume i'm in KDE
[07:10] <kinja-sheep> !ide | Serraphyn
[07:10] <kinja-sheep> !develop | Serraphyn
[07:10] <awk> hi, hmm, want to use dpkg to --remove but without deps... something like dpkg --remove blah --no-depends
[07:10] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: still nothing...
[07:10] <[J]ustin> Is there a way I ca view my Ubuntu desktop from a remote location?
[07:11] <luckymurali> Hi to all
[07:11] <airtonix> [J]ustin, yes
[07:11] <kinja-sheep> [J]ustin: VNC, maybe? Personally, ssh is more than enough for me.
[07:11] <Diverdude> d
[07:11] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: you still get the same message?
[07:11] <[J]ustin> Can I set it up via SSH?
[07:11] <zen_master_soso> [J]ustin, install X11vnc on the server. then VNC viewer on the client.
[07:11] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: yaeh
[07:11] <luckymurali> how can i list the files with its size and word count of each file
[07:11] <chakrit> How to get back classic Ubuntu desktop in a Netbook Remix install?
[07:12] <bullgard> Flannel: Hm. What is meant by the phrase: "so we can catch those before they hit a wider audience."?
[07:12] <faileas> chakrit: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:12] <faileas> then select it from the login manager
[07:12] <[J]ustin> E: Couldn't find package X11vnc
[07:13] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: http://pastebin.org/84796
[07:13] <Flannel> bullgard: They're trying to catch issues before they get moved from the development platform to the general public
[07:13] <chakrit> faileas: oh... ok thx.. was expecting a replacement for desktop-switcher
[07:13] <zen_master_soso> [J]ustin, lowercase "x"
[07:13] <Serraphyn> thanks for all the links, I would prefer personal reviews but I will look at those
[07:13] <Diverdude> It happens more and more often that my ubuntu system breaks down...like it is decaying.... What happens is that the window-decorator fails, so that i cannot move any of my windows. In order to fix it i have to open a terminal and run > gtk-window-decorator --replace&  and then it works fine again....This is however really annoying, and i dont know why it happens...it just happens now and then...and the frequency for the event increases i think. What mi
[07:13] <Diverdude> ght be wrong with my system?
[07:13] <kinja-sheep> chakrit: iirc desktop-switcher was broken.
[07:14] <airtonix> [J]ustin, just so you are aware ... vnc alone wont let you transfer and work with files locally
[07:14] <chakrit> kinja-sheep: and no longer available in 9.10 .. yup
[07:14] <[J]ustin> I just need to be able to view the desktop
[07:14] <kinja-sheep> chakrit: I'd suggest for you to decide which layout you want and stick with it.
[07:14] <zen_master_soso> [J]ustin, x11vnc does it for me
[07:15] <[J]ustin> Yeah, I just need to setup user accounts ect
[07:15] <xangua> Diverdude: open gconf-editor ; in /desktop/gnome/session/required_components, what value has 'windowmanager' ¿
[07:15] <[J]ustin> (to lazy to walk to my room)
[07:15] <airtonix> [J]ustin, yep then vnc is the one: it is merely a 'video network connection'
[07:15] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: you can try searching for "FindKDE4.make"
[07:15] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: make sure you have it installed
[07:15] <luckymurali> how to list the file size and word count of each file
[07:16] <luckymurali> please give me an idea
[07:16] <bullgard> Flannel: I am tempted to swaer. I have prepared a bug report in Launchpad. I took me more than one hour. And now I only read: "Sorry, something went wrong in Launchpad."
[07:16] <zen_master_soso> [J]ustin, this is your challenge. Do it all from ssh! DO EEEET!
[07:16] <chakrit> kinja-sheep: ok, thx for the suggestion :)
[07:16] <bullgard> s/I/It/
[07:16] <[J]ustin> Unable to connect to host: connection refused
[07:16] <[J]ustin> :(
[07:16] <kinja-sheep> luckymurali: wc --help
[07:16] <Flannel> bullgard: You shouldn't be using the development server (no one should be)
[07:16] <Diverdude> xangua, it has the value compiz
[07:17] <zen_master_soso> [J]ustin, `gimme your IP address and I'll have that fixed for you. ;)
[07:17] <luckymurali> kinja-sheep ,thanks
[07:17] <nascentmind> zen_master_soso, i tried this and it seems to be working for me http://blog.ixti.ru/archives/6
[07:17] <nascentmind> zen_master_soso, maybe that can help you.
[07:17] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: how would I do that, is there a command for it?
[07:17] <[J]ustin> No thanks. Im not opening the VNC port
[07:17] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: run "apt-file search FindKDE4.make"
[07:17] <xangua> Diverdude: it should be: gnome-wm
[07:18] <turtle^s0up> or use locate
[07:18] <zen_master_soso> [J]ustin, j/k
[07:18] <Diverdude> xangua, aha i see...is that the reason?
[07:18] <faileas> eww, vnc
[07:18]  * faileas prefers nx over that
[07:18] <xangua> Diverdude: that's the default value, so maybe yes
[07:18] <surgy> kjjjl;
[07:18] <[J]ustin> Anyway, how would I be able to make the user account 'daniel' only able to view his /home/daniel/ files? (via SFPT)
 whats the terminal command to configure wine
[07:18] <zen_master_soso> nascentmind, Thank you. I'll check this out.
[07:18] <Diverdude> xangua, okay, i have changed it....does it take effect immidietly or should i restart or what?
[07:18] <bullgard> Flannel: I entered Launchpad normally. I did not intend to use the development server. I was guided (or should I say "diverted"?) to this server.
[07:20] <rileyp> hey
[07:20] <Jonathan_Glam> Hi. I'm still having a problem with installing ubuntu dual boot. When installing, if I try change the partition I'm installing into, what do I do for the following options: Use as? (do I do ext4), Mount Port? and should i format even if it has nothing on it
[07:20] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: it just returned nothing.
[07:20] <Diverdude> xangua, ?
[07:20] <rileyp> how can I disable mouse during suspend  suspend works fine
[07:20] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: same as pressing "enter"
[07:20] <indus> Jonathan_Glam, use ext3  and mount point ;
[07:21] <indus> Jonathan_Glam, use ext3  and mount point /
[07:21] <zen_master_soso> Jonathan_Glam, use ReiserFS.
[07:21] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: that means you don't have the dependency
[07:21] <indus> Jonathan_Glam, use ext3  and mount point / , and if you have one more partition, you can also use /home as another mount point
[07:21] <rileyp> mouse is getting knocked during suspend and waking pc
[07:21] <Duskao> so the dependency is FindKDE4.make?
[07:21] <indus> Jonathan_Glam, ext3 and ext 4 are the default file systems for ubuntu
[07:21] <Jonathan_Glam> indus: it's Ubuntu 9.10. Isn't Ext4 meant to be better? I have other paritions for Windows
[07:21] <zen_master_soso> If I was doing a clean install, I'd use ReiserFS instead of ext3 - especially if you need the disk space.
[07:21] <zen_master_soso> etx3 is the default.
[07:21] <indus> Jonathan_Glam, yes suere you can use ext4
[07:22] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: so the dependency is FindKDE4.make?
[07:22] <rileyp> i need usb0 enabled so remote can wake pc
[07:22] <Jonathan_Glam> zen_master_soso: it's not a fresh install dual book
[07:22] <Jonathan_Glam> indus: ok. so just to reiterate: Ext4 as the file system and mount point / if that is where I want all of Ubuntu to be installed into?
[07:22] <nomad77> bullgard: try checking your browser cache,maybe?
[07:22] <zen_master_soso> Jonathan_Glam, it's fresh Ubuntu on an existing Windows machine, no?
[07:22] <indus> Jonathan_Glam,i hope that partition is empty
[07:22] <Jonathan_Glam> zen_master_soso: yes
[07:23] <Jonathan_Glam> indus: yes it's a seperate hard drive (physically) and I left it as such specifically to install Ubuntu later
[07:23] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: install "cmake-data"
[07:23] <Jonathan_Glam> indus: when installing windows I made sure it didn't install it at all
[07:23] <indus> Jonathan_Glam, do you have another empty partition created? then you can do two mount points, / and /home
[07:23] <bullgard> nomad77: For what should I check it?
[07:23] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: it seems like that's where your missing dependency is at
[07:23] <rileyp> and another for .swap
[07:23] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: already got it....
[07:23] <indus> Jonathan_Glam, /home on separate partition is good idea in case you need to recover stuff in case of a crash
[07:24] <Jonathan_Glam> indus: No. I just have one other partition made. It's huge (60gig) so I'm looking ot have all of ubuntu into it
[07:24] <skdud> i dont know what you guys have against microsoft, when you use their software you accomplish the impossible every day
[07:24] <nomad77> bullgard: your bug-report?,maybe i misunderstood.
[07:24] <indus> Jonathan_Glam,ok no problem, just use / and dont forget swap
[07:24] <Jonathan_Glam> indus: but can i have them all together? Because i sync online anyway, so crash isn't to bad (just a pain)
[07:24] <zen_master_soso> Jonathan_Glam, the Ubuntu installer is not going to wipe your Windows partition unless you tell it to. It will tell you which partitions it will format, so you have a last chance to double check.
[07:24] <Jonathan_Glam> indus: what's the swap?
[07:24] <indus> Jonathan_Glam, /swap is compulsory
[07:24] <bullgard> nomad77: Do you consider that I will find my lost bug report there?
[07:25] <indus> Jonathan_Glam, create a small partition of around 1 gb for this, swap is like a virtual memory thing is needed
[07:25] <Jonathan_Glam> zen_master_soso: it wants me to manually do it because it says if I do automatic it will remove the windows launcher
[07:25] <Jonathan_Glam> indus: ah ok
[07:25] <rileyp> go read a guide on how to install ubuntu or how to dual boot
[07:25] <rileyp> they are everywher
[07:25] <zen_master_soso> indus, i don't think swap space is compulsory.
[07:25] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: try the package "kdelibs5-dev"
[07:25] <rileyp> and stop wasting peoples time here
[07:25] <Jonathan_Glam> rileyp: yes but many aren't for windows7 and many are fairly dodgy
[07:25] <indus> zen_master_soso, it is absolutely
[07:25] <zen_master_soso> Jonathan_Glam, but you should have a separate swap partition the same size as your RAM
[07:25] <rileyp> crap
[07:25] <Myrtti> rileyp:  behave
[07:25] <zen_master_soso> indus, never tested that. always had a swap partition
[07:25] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: installing
[07:26] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: how do you know the dependencies for this? is it just common knowlege?
[07:26] <Seaan> Anyone know a helpful web site to setting up the client computer after you set up a server?
[07:26] <indus> zen_master_soso, well its not recommened way, system has severe trouble shutting down, hibernate and lot of other issues
[07:26] <Jonathan_Glam> zen_master_soso, indus: ok I'll create a swap partition of about two gig? And I'll mount that as /swap?
[07:26] <indus> Jonathan_Glam, yes !
[07:26] <rileyp> so create 3 partitions on your spare hard drive /swap 2gig / 15 gig and /home whatever is left
[07:26] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: just search the repositories
[07:27] <Jonathan_Glam> and then I make a main one with just / as my mount point?
[07:27] <zen_master_soso> Jonathan_Glam, don't worry too much. Ubuntu will install the GRUB boot loader on the first partition (prob /dev/sda1). Windows will boot up thinking it's the only os on the drive. And yes on the swap partition!
[07:27] <indus> Jonathan_Glam, so then, 58 gb will be / and the rest will be the swap partition
[07:27] <Duskao> that may have done it.
[07:27] <rileyp> nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[07:27] <zen_master_soso> Jonathan_Glam, yes on main part "/'
[07:27] <indus> Jonathan_Glam, yes, also do remember to tick the format option for /
[07:27] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: that may have done it.
[07:27] <Jonathan_Glam> alright awesome. I'll do it. Thanks again indus and zen_master_soso
[07:27] <rileyp> read my post above
[07:27] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: good job!
[07:28] <rileyp> 15 gig for / 2gig for swap and whatever is left for /home
[07:28] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: pffft, good job to you lol. You did all of it. Thanks
[07:28] <nomad77> bullgard: well it was a web form. so i'd look there, just to be safe. try the cache-viewer extension. or not. just an idea.
[07:28] <turtle^s0up> np
[07:28] <zen_master_soso> Jonathan_Glam, I like rileyp
[07:28] <zen_master_soso> 's advice
[07:28] <turtle^s0up> now lets see if i get some karma back and my question answered
[07:28] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: crap, new error lol
[07:29] <zen_master_soso> Jonathan_Glam, 15gb for / is more than enough. Keeping your / and /home separate is actually a very good idea.
[07:29] <ktekx> can anybody send me a file to test my DCC? thanks
[07:29] <rileyp> help with mouse disabling moise during suspend pleeeeeeeeeeease
[07:29] <rileyp> mouse
[07:29] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: what is the error?
[07:29] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: never mind, just didn't run as root.
[07:30] <rileyp> it wakes pc during suspend
[07:30] <rileyp> and i need usb enabled so remote can
[07:30] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: it works fine thanks again.
[07:31] <turtle^s0up> np
[07:31] <rileyp> anyone.......?
[07:31] <s3r1alk1ll3r_> привет
[07:31] <zen_master_soso> rileyp: that's a good one. there's scripts in /etc/event.d that you can hook into to disable your mouse
[07:31] <nomad77> !ru | s3r1alk1ll3r_
[07:31] <rileyp> ill have a look thanks
[07:32] <zen_master_soso> rileyp, don't know of a command to disable / enable the mouse, though :(
[07:33] <Seaan> Question - in order to set up the client side computer you have to do the SQL settings right?
[07:34] <Rishab_> Seaan whats ur req ??
[07:35] <Seaan> Like im just trying to understand how to setup a server... I get the concept of setting up the server side and all the permissions but after that how to you get the client side computer to connect and make to log in type stuff
[07:35] <Seaan> im in the planning stages atm lol
[07:35] <Jonathan_Glam> Hi sorry. But is it possible for me to create a swap space after I've installed ubuntu?
[07:35] <Jonathan_Glam> just looking at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[07:36] <ouyes> "Ping timeout: -1430 years" very funny
[07:36] <Flannel> Seaan: What sort of server?
[07:36] <Myrtti> Jonathan_Glam: yes, but it's more difficult
[07:36] <Jonathan_Glam> Because I can't seem to get it to create a swap file out of my partition that I've made for Ubuntu. So maybe if I install it there then create a swap space?
[07:36] <Seaan> file server
[07:36] <faileas> Jonathan_Glam: swap files and swap partitions are different
[07:37]  * faileas has a swap file right now ;p
[07:37] <rileyp> delete the partition and create 3 parttions like we ssaid
[07:37] <Flannel> Seaan: For personal use? or public consumption or what?
[07:37] <ouyes> are there any tools to test the stability of the UBUNTU OS, conky is any a monitor tool
[07:37] <Jonathan_Glam> Myrtti: kk. Just I have this partition /sda3. How do I make the partition manager create a swap space with just two gig
[07:37] <Seaan> personal
[07:37] <rileyp> you need to redo part manager
[07:37] <rileyp> start again
[07:38] <rileyp> create 3 parttions
[07:38] <Flannel> Seaan: The easiest way to set it up is to use sftp, On the server you install openssh-server, and then on the client you use [almost any client] and it works just like ftp.  (Most GUI ftp clients also do sftp, etc)
[07:38] <Jonathan_Glam> i created this partition ages ago when i installed windows. SO i can't realy sart gain
[07:38] <Myrtti> !who | rileyp
[07:38] <rileyp> isnt it a seperate hard drive
[07:39] <rileyp> ubottu ok
[07:39] <geirha> Jonathan_Glam: Boot ubuntu livecd, run gparted, create a swap partition, reboot into system, add the swap to /etc/fstab
[07:39] <Seaan> And so that would make it to where when I boot up the pc i would have to log in type thing?
[07:40] <Jonathan_Glam> geirha: is there a guide online on how to do that so i can follow? on livecd now
[07:40] <geirha> Jonathan_Glam: The partition you were talking about, is that a swap partition?
[07:41] <Myrtti> Jonathan_Glam: if you have the sda3 and its a whole harddrive, you can further partition it in the installer
[07:41] <geirha> Jonathan_Glam: A generic guide to partitioning here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[07:42] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[07:43] <Jonathan_Glam> geirha: ok. So If i use GParted to format my sda3 (the Ubuntu one) to ext4. Then If I further divide it and make a seperate one for swap (which file type?) would that work?
[07:43] <obiwan_> morning!
[07:43] <Myrtti> Jonathan_Glam: you need to go back a step from the dialog in which you pick the partition type and mount point to where you picked which partition to use and further partition that there
[07:43] <obiwan_> (gmt+1 hehe)
[07:43] <EastDallas> Seaan: Are the client and server machine both going to be on the same local network?
[07:44] <PrototypeX29A> i just experienced that my route table was missing an routing entry. i had to add it via "route" command, so that my internet request would be routed to my local gateway. I didn't change my network settings for weeks, why is the entry suddenly missing?
[07:44] <Myrtti> Jonathan_Glam: given that you want to do it while in the installer
[07:44] <zen_master_soso> rileyp, did you get an answer?
[07:45] <mayasaryy> ada orang indonesia gak?
[07:45] <geirha> Jonathan_Glam: You don't need to wipe your current install (sda3). Just resize it to make 2Gig free, then create a swap partition (choose swap instead of ext4 when creating it) in the free space
[07:46] <Myrtti> !id | mayasaryy
[07:46] <geirha> Jonathan_Glam: Do back up important data before doing anything with the partition table though.
[07:46] <zen_master_soso> !id zen_master_soso
[07:46] <mayasaryy> di server mana?
[07:47] <Jonathan_Glam> geirha: the thing is though. That it is a completely clear partition. Nothing at all on it. So I want to make 58gig of it ext4 and 2 gig swap. how can I do that easiest?
[07:47] <EastDallas> Seaan: If it's all on the same network you can use Samba which works like windows file sharing.
[07:47] <zen_master_soso> chat rileyp
[07:47] <zen_master_soso> oops
[07:47] <eitreach_away> This happens in Ubuntu, but I strongly believe it would happen with Ubuntu as well. Whenever I try to install, I am greeted with a message about not being able to remove restricted files. What do I do to fix this?
[07:48] <Jonathan_Glam> geirha: if I go to New Partition table I believe it resizes my whole sda drive. Instead of just sda3
[07:48] <eitreach_away> er, happens in Kubuntu, I mean.
[07:48] <zen_master_soso> rileyp, i was going to ask if you got your problem fixed
[07:48] <geirha> Jonathan_Glam: Ah, if it's already empty, just remove it, create an extended partition in its place, and create an ext4 and swap inside the extended.
[07:48] <Jonathan_Glam> geirha. sda3 is completely free. sda1,2 and 4 are used for windows
[07:49] <Kartagis> what determines if a drive is sda or sdb? I made a fresh install on my hdd and that became sdb and I moved my other disk to that system which became sda
[07:49] <Kartagis> s/became/is seen as/g
[07:49] <mayasaryy> #ubuntu-id di server mana yah ?
[07:49] <Myrtti> Kartagis: location on the sata/ide cable
[07:49] <geirha> Jonathan_Glam: You are limited to four (primary) partitions, which is why you need to make one (primary) partition an extended. Inside extended partition you can have many logical partitions. This is a limitation from olden days.
[07:49] <mayasaryy>  #ubuntu-id di server manaa yah ?
[07:50] <Flannel> mayasaryy: /join #ubuntu-id
[07:51] <Kartagis> Myrtti, does that mean sdb will be seen as sda if I just switch cables?
[07:51] <SolarisBoy> PrototypeX29A: had you added the route manually?
[07:51] <Jonathan_Glam> geirha: ah works i believe!
[07:51] <turtle^s0up> is the Kubuntu plasma indicator widget important? can i remove it and have KDE's notification applet do it's job?
[07:51] <Myrtti> Kartagis: yes. if you use uuids in fstab, it shouldnt have any  effect to your system
[07:52] <mayasaryy> how to make network on ubuntu ?
[07:52] <Myrtti> turtle^s0up: try #kubuntu?
[07:52] <archboxman> !network
[07:52] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: you could try it and see how it works, it' super easy to reinstall it if you need
[07:52] <Kartagis> thanks Myrtti
[07:53] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: also I wouldn't try the #kubuntu cause it's dead/afk
[07:53] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: you're right, i was just wondering if someone could explain it further
[07:53] <turtle^s0up> thanks
[07:53] <EastDallas> mayasaryy: do you want to share files or connect to the internet?
[07:53] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: lol, i tried their earleir
[07:54] <archboxman> mayasaryy: what do you mean by "make a network"???
[07:54] <Myrtti> Duskao: askin instead of lurking usually helps ;-)
[07:54] <Jonathan_Glam> geirha: oworks. thank you so much!
[07:54] <SolarisBoy> make networks not war =)
[07:54] <Duskao> turtle^s0up:  to be honest, I think it is the applet. I'm not sure there is a notifier if you get rid of the widget
[07:54] <Jonathan_Glam> geirha, Myrtti: thanks again!
[07:54] <geirha> Jonathan_Glam: Great :)
[07:54] <mayasaryy> i wanna learn about make network structure to my LAN
[07:54] <PrototypeX29A> SolarisBoy: only this time, usually it does find the gateway itself
[07:54] <Myrtti> geirha, Jonathan_Glam : no, thank you
[07:54] <Duskao> Myrtti: I agree, but it's afk, I'm on their now and have been for the last couple hours.
[07:55] <Duskao> Myrtti: and done my fair share of asking questions or trying to help if I can.
[07:55] <archboxman> mayasaryy: a network is more then one computer sharing information??
[07:55] <SolarisBoy> so you lost your default gateway entry?
[07:55] <EastDallas> mayasaryy: I don't quite understand, but it sounds like you want to share files?
[07:55] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: it seems like it's new to ubuntu/kubuntu, i think part of the new usability initiative
[07:55] <archboxman> mayasaryy: no mystery behind linux just what are you doing with the network
[07:55] <Myrtti> Duskao: patiece is a virtue, it's still quite early in europe, which may explain the silence
[07:56] <Duskao> Myrtti: perhaps.
[07:56] <mayasaryy> no, how make structure of LAN
[07:56] <PrototypeX29A> SolarisBoy: as the route table seems to be created dynamically, the problem seems to lie in the creation of the table
[07:56] <Myrtti> mayasaryy: connect cables?
[07:56] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: Yeah, I really like to to be honest, and kde 4.4 is pretty sweet, or will be once the bugs are worked out, very widget oriented.
[07:56] <PrototypeX29A> SolarisBoy: i should be automatically added
[07:57] <EastDallas> mayasaryy: do you want to set up dhcp and dns servers for your lan?
[07:57] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: do you use the gmail-plasmoid widget on KDE 4.4?
[07:57] <SolarisBoy> PrototypeX29A: other things can cause an entry to go missing
[07:57] <archboxman> mayasaryy: Well you have a server and computers attached to server if not you all computers in a lan without centeral station all are responsible for the netowrk??? more like a hub party
[07:57] <mayasaryy> yeah like it
[07:57] <PrototypeX29A> SolarisBoy: that should not happen, should it?
[07:57] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: nah, I downgraded back to 4.3 cause kwin was crashing a lot. Still lots of bugs to be worked out.
[07:58] <SolarisBoy> PrototypeX29A: not usually i've seen it happen occasionally before
[07:58] <zen_master_soso> anyone know a good easy to read introduction to the X session lifecycle?
[07:58] <PrototypeX29A> even rebooting did not help, if it wasn't me being such a smart guy i would be seriously messed up
[07:58] <archboxman> mayasaryy: which do you have a server and computers... or hub party ???
[07:58] <cew_cri_tmn> #surabaya
[07:58] <SolarisBoy> PrototypeX29A: did the router have an issue at any point?
[07:58] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: yeah, that's why i'm staying with the stable. the gmail-plasmoid didn't work and krunner would crash all the time.
[07:58] <PrototypeX29A> SolarisBoy: i don't think so
[07:59] <SolarisBoy> PrototypeX29A: do you use DHCP?
[07:59] <PrototypeX29A> i guess, so
[07:59] <SolarisBoy> hmm
[07:59] <mayasaryy> sory i have much trouble about network, but i can speak more, because my english too bad
[07:59] <Duskao> turtle^s0up: yeah, had the same issue, lots of widgets weren't working properly at the time either. but the widget setup was great
[07:59] <PrototypeX29A> SolarisBoy: i just stopped working correctly
[08:00] <archboxman> mayasaryy: you need to learn networking 101
[08:00] <SolarisBoy> PrototypeX29A: do you use network manager or interfaces file?
[08:00] <mayasaryy> where i can get it
[08:00] <PrototypeX29A> SolarisBoy: i use the "Network Connections" in the menu
[08:00] <turtle^s0up> Duskao: KDE folks are doing an awesome job, really good progression
[08:00] <archboxman> PrototypeX29A: ifconfig
[08:00] <SolarisBoy> also check dmesg output for line pertaining to your eth*
[08:01] <PrototypeX29A> archboxman: ifconfig what?
[08:01] <SolarisBoy> actually try ethtool
[08:01] <PrototypeX29A> for what?
[08:01] <SolarisBoy> errors
[08:01] <archboxman> yes check your connection
[08:01] <archboxman> ping the router box
[08:01] <PrototypeX29A> now it is working
[08:01] <SolarisBoy> correct but looking for what happend right?
[08:02] <PrototypeX29A> it just does not add the route entry anymore
[08:02] <Adriaan> hi, i'm experiencing rendering errors with compiz-fusion, especially when moving the 'cube', i have the latest nvidia drivers, does anyone know how this is possible?
[08:02] <PrototypeX29A> so next time i'll boot i will to manually add it again
[08:02] <SolarisBoy> no...
[08:02] <SolarisBoy> thats not a solution...
[08:02] <SolarisBoy> its a workaround
[08:02] <PrototypeX29A> SolarisBoy: that's why i am asking :)
[08:02] <archboxman> PrototypeX29A: call your isp and check if they had trouble or disconnection first
[08:03] <SolarisBoy> PrototypeX29A: so have pinged the router/ and done the ethtool like we asked yet?
[08:03] <SolarisBoy> and checked dmesg and messages file?
[08:03] <PrototypeX29A> SolarisBoy: i don't know what the point in pinging the router is, if it obviously works
[08:03] <PrototypeX29A> if := when
[08:03] <archboxman> 'lol
[08:03] <SolarisBoy> packet loss?
[08:04] <SolarisBoy> intermittent errors?
[08:04] <SolarisBoy> link up link down error in message file?
[08:04] <SolarisBoy> things like this are good to know,, ifconfig contains errors in a counter format,, so it would have errors collected on the interface no?
[08:04] <archboxman> PrototypeX29A: is this wireless???
[08:04] <PrototypeX29A> archboxman: yes, it is
[08:05] <archboxman> lol
[08:05] <archboxman> iwconfig
[08:05] <SolarisBoy> fail
[08:05] <PrototypeX29A> and then?
[08:05] <PrototypeX29A> SolarisBoy: you want to tell me something?
[08:05] <archboxman> PrototypeX29A: also you need to know if the laptop / desktop or netbook are within range
[08:05] <SolarisBoy> maybe you should reboot the router
[08:06] <kevinprince> Hey, im trying to get php 5.3 running on Hardy Heron. Can anyone point me in the right direction. Having issues getting it working
[08:06] <archboxman> SolarisBoy: Great suggestions ... :)
[08:06] <SolarisBoy> PrototypeX29A: yes
[08:06] <PrototypeX29A> you answers seem a little bit generic, like "maybe your house is on fire"
[08:06] <SolarisBoy> PrototypeX29A: trying to point you to checking the connection between the laptop/desktip and the router
[08:07] <SolarisBoy> PrototypeX29A: no
[08:08] <gregor_> whats this then
[08:08] <archboxman> PrototypeX29A: what we are trying to see is if your connected... Usually start with logs to check for errors of send and recieve ... If you think its hardware then you need to give us insight
[08:09] <PrototypeX29A> archboxman: right now, i am connected
[08:09] <SolarisBoy> a route can go missing if it becomes invalid,, you said you added your default gw back after you rebooted,, apparently there was an issue with your gw router
[08:09] <PrototypeX29A> archboxman: i am chatting via this wifi connection
[08:09] <kevinprince> any ideas?
[08:09] <archboxman> PrototypeX29A: only way to cheek a paste expereince is to check your logs...
[08:09] <specagent_> i have a problem using ubuntu
[08:10] <SolarisBoy> archboxman: exactly
[08:10] <PrototypeX29A> archboxman: kern.log?
[08:10] <SolarisBoy> actually..
[08:11] <PrototypeX29A> i don't even know which tool failed me
[08:11] <SolarisBoy> depends on syslog settings
[08:11] <specagent_> can anyone help me plz? i've a problem using ubuntu
[08:11] <archboxman> PrototypeX29A: your assuming its ubuntu more then likely its your provider seems I got disconnected the other day and service providers basic anwser is to give you there down right no
[08:11] <SolarisBoy> this is why i said do ethtool ifconfig ping the router checking for intermittent things like packet loss etc...
[08:12] <SolarisBoy> and before you blame the provider you should investigate whichever devices are intermediary,,
[08:12] <i3inary> anyone know how to backup and migrate my installation to new hardware?...say from laptop to a desktop.
[08:12] <PrototypeX29A> archboxman: i don't understand
[08:13] <lfitz> is there a way to tell which files are currently being written too..?
[08:13] <SolarisBoy> but listen,, are you directly connected to the internet PrototypeX29A ?
[08:13] <PrototypeX29A> SolarisBoy: right now the connection seems fine, no packet loss or whatever
[08:13] <PrototypeX29A> SolarisBoy: i am connected via router
[08:13] <SolarisBoy> because a blip in the netwoerk even on the ISP level shouldn't affect you LAN
[08:13] <archboxman> PrototypeX29A: got to check the range from the wireless device mine gives 63% signal gain
[08:13] <SolarisBoy> at all
[08:14] <kevinprince> i3inary: install on new machine, use rsync to copy your home directory
[08:14] <SolarisBoy> you would still be in communication with nodes on you LAN
[08:14] <geirha> lfitz: man lsof
[08:14] <PrototypeX29A> SolarisBoy: the lan is fine
[08:14] <archboxman> SolarisBoy: unless all you are doing is connecting to internet???
[08:14] <lfitz> :D thanks geirha
[08:14] <SolarisBoy> PrototypeX29A: ...
[08:14] <specagent_> my problem is: if i try to compile a program with scons, there are error messages (sh: o: not found). i've already installed (and even re-installed) gcc, g++, scons, build-essential and it still doesn't work
[08:14] <i3inary> kevinprince, would that handle all the packages that i have installed and configured?
[08:14] <SolarisBoy> PrototypeX29A: i think we are having a loss in communication
[08:15] <PrototypeX29A> SolarisBoy: may be
[08:15] <kindofabuzz> Need a little command gedit <?>, what i'm asking is there anything i can put after the gedit part without actually thping those files file names in?
[08:15] <SolarisBoy> PrototypeX29A: im just basically trying to help you find why your route is needed to be manually added
[08:15] <kindofabuzz> ooops scratch all that
[08:15] <SolarisBoy> regardless of what works now
[08:15] <archboxman> PrototypeX29A: you want to know why the internet connection was right????
[08:15] <archboxman> was down
[08:16] <SolarisBoy> you should never have to manually add  a route back on each reboot...
[08:16] <PrototypeX29A> SolarisBoy: i'm just saying, that the wlan was working all the time, at any point was able to ping my router
[08:16] <SolarisBoy> at worst you can slip in one of the start scripts to avoid that...
[08:16] <kindofabuzz> Need a little command help, touch file1 file2 && gedit <?>, what i'm asking is there anything i can put after the gedit part without actually typing those files file names in?
[08:16] <fsufitch> hey. what's the best way to get grub in the MBR after installing Windows on a computer?
[08:16] <SolarisBoy> PrototypeX29A: ok so at which point did you lose the default gw entry?
[08:16] <archboxman> PrototypeX29A: who is your isp???
[08:17] <kindofabuzz> fsufitch, super grub disc is a great grub fixer distro
[08:17] <[J]ustin> Any reason I am getting this when I connect via SSH? WinSCP: this is end-of-file:0
[08:17] <kindofabuzz> i mean you can do it manually too
[08:17] <PrototypeX29A> SolarisBoy: after rebooting
[08:17] <fsufitch> kindofabuzz: better than ubuntu live CD?
[08:17] <fsufitch> (or live USB in my case)
[08:17] <PrototypeX29A> archboxman: some local spanish provider
[08:17] <Devrethman> fsufitch: I used to do it with grub-install, but I haven't had to in a REALLY long time, so I can't do any more than point you in that direction
[08:17] <kindofabuzz> fsufitch, well with the ubuntu live you have to still know how to fix your grub, Super Grub Disc can do it automatically
[08:18] <SolarisBoy> and you use your ISP's router directly via wireless? or you have your own netgear/linksys etc router doing NAT and your LAN?
[08:18] <PrototypeX29A> archboxman: orangeadsl
[08:18] <PrototypeX29A> SolarisBoy: there is a router in between