[10:23] <wildbat> vot, inspire me if you can get win7 bootloader to load grub2 in a non-ntfs partition
[10:23] <oCean_> Dr_Willis: I pointed this out to https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+question/60506, However, I don't know how he can change that setting as he is unable to start terminal...
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> if 'billgates' works -  then that shows that its some sort of gnome setting for your other user thast is the problem
[10:24] <vot> wildbat, your just dumping the grub mbr
[10:24] <vot> thats it
[10:24] <vot> it loads the vista bootloader then chainloads the normal grub mbr
[10:24] <vot> you see the grub menu just like it booted normally
[10:24] <bihari> nop same issue
[10:25] <bihari> Dr_Willis, same issue i made a new user but stil when i open gnome-terminal
[10:25] <bihari> nuthing happen
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  start a xterm, run 'gnome-terminal' and look for error messages perhaps.
[10:26] <panda599> Dr_Willis it run well, thanks ;)
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  sounds like some system wyde gnome setting/file is messed up
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> panda599:  you must of totally overlooked that first bootup. where there was a popup message about  the video drivers.
[10:27] <bihari> Dr_Willis, well terminal is working if  i am login through my other user acount that just now i made
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> panda599:  installing nvidia druives is the first thing i do on a new install.
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  Huh?
[10:27] <oCean_> bihari: Dr_Willis So I found where your personal settings (for gnome-terminal) are: ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default. If you changed preferences it should be there
[10:28] <panda599> Dr_Willis ok i see ;) thanks ;)
[10:28] <thc_> ./hldsupdatetool.bin.
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  gnome-terminal works for 'billgates' but not the 'otheruser' ?
[10:28] <thc_> ./hldsupdatetool.bin.
[10:28] <bihari> yes just now i made a account
[10:28] <bihari> from that account my terminal is working
[10:28] <bihari> but not this account
[10:29] <Key> ciao
[10:29] <bihari> account here switch user
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  I said to login as the new user. :) and test.. if bullgates works.. then its your other users gnome-terminals ettings that are the issue most likely
[10:29] <Key> !list
[10:29] <bihari> yes it working with billgates
[10:29] <sweetpi> bihari: delete ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal as the user that isnt working
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  perhaps delete the problem users gnome-terminal settings files at -- ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default
[10:30] <bihari> ?
[10:30] <oCean_> bihari: or copy the ones for billgates into yours
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  login as problem, user.. open xterm. delete the gnome-terminal problem configs..
[10:30] <oCean_> bihari: since that is where the gnome-terminal preferences are
[10:30] <bihari> man what to do?
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> or you could do it as root from any user. :)
[10:31] <bihari> so many instruction :-s
[10:31] <bihari> tell me one by one
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> we said what to do.. they all say to do the same thing..
[10:31] <bihari> :p
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> under problem users account --> delete ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> sudo rm /home/PROBLEMUSERNAME/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default                     should delete it.
[10:32] <bihari>  delete ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default << shud i type in the terminal
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> or if thats a dir...
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> sudo rm -r /home/PROBLEMUSERNAME/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default                     should delete it.
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  or login as your user. and use the normal gui file manager to delete the directory/files
[10:34] <rebirth> yay, i used a new disc and burned at the slowest speed and it completed
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> assuming thats the right dirctory. Gnome has too many settings getting scattered about.
[10:35] <Araneidae> Can I get automounting to work while I'm *not* running the Gnome desktop?
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> Araneidae:  what desktop are you running?
[10:36] <Araneidae> fluxbox, pretty bare
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> Araneidae:  ive noticed that if i run 'nautilus --no-desktop' under icewm or other window managers - nautilus can do the automounting
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> Araneidae:  not sure of other ways to get it going. :)
[10:36] <Araneidae> That sounds promising.  I'm very surprised that automount is integrated into the desktop!
[10:37] <Araneidae> Definitely belongs as a lower level daemon IMO
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> Araneidae:  its part of some gnoem serveices  i recall.
[10:37] <Araneidae> So it would seem...
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> there are some lower level automounting tools.. but then you may lose some of your 'desktop user centered' features
[10:37] <Araneidae> I don't think I *have* any desktop features (except for my fluxbox hotkeys and core window management)
[10:38] <bihari>  sudo rm -r /home/PROBLEMUSERNAME/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Defaul
[10:38] <bihari> says no suck file or directory
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  you do undersatnd that you want to replace 'PROBLEMUSERNAME' with the name of your Problem user?
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> bihari:   when in doubt 'think' about what you are doing. :) not just doing things blindly.
[10:39] <bihari> ? so what shud i do?
[10:39] <sweetpi> also your missing a "t" from Default
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  You should replace PROBLEMUSERNAME  with tjhe name of your user having the problem user...
[10:39] <Lord_Devi> Araneidae: What your looking for is 'autofs'
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> rather logical? :)
[10:39] <Araneidae> Dr_Willis, do you know of a description of how Linux automounting works?  It seems both tangled and in constant flux at the moment!
[10:39] <bihari> oh oki
[10:39] <bihari> got it :p
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  OR login as the user with the problem and use the command (from a xterm) --> 'rm -rf .gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> oops misspasted a extra ' and frogot the closing '
[10:40] <Araneidae> Lord_Devi, like this: http://www.linux-consulting.com/Amd_AutoFS/autofs.html ?  Ta :)
[10:40] <Lord_Devi> Araneidae, It can auto mount cdroms, usb, and remote file systems
[10:40] <Lord_Devi> Taking a look
[10:40] <Araneidae> That's an *old* document. Huh.
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> Araneidae:   theres dozens of automounting things that have poped up over the years. gnomes way is thelatest in a long line of them
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> Araneidae:  there is no 'linux' automounting. :) its just yet another service you use on linux
[10:41] <Araneidae> Yea.  And they keep changing the underlying hotplug mechanism
[10:41] <Araneidae> Is udev in or out these days?  I've completely lost track
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> Araneidae:   Trust me - you do not want to go  back to the old old old ways. :)
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> Araneidae:  i cant recall either. :) HAL id being replaced by somthing else now
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> udev was befor HAl wasent it?
[10:42] <Araneidae> Well, I've had success with mdev on busybox, but that's a completely different animal.
[10:42] <Lord_Devi> Araneidae, Yeah taht's what your looking for. You could ask for a better guide though ;)
[10:42] <Araneidae> Anyhow, about to dig into autofs, I see it's a proper Ubuntu package, with the official logo on i
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> Starting with Ubuntu 10.04, HAL has been removed and is no longer involved
[10:43] <Araneidae> Something else I don't understand: I've got half a dozen fuse mount points in /tmp (all mounting the same .iso, as it happens) left behind by a program I ran the other day.
[10:44] <Araneidae> However, if I try `umount /dev/loop0` it tells me to be root
[10:44] <om26er> sounds like a bug
[10:44] <Araneidae> So as an ordinary user how am I supposed to unmount my fuse points?
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> fuse tools have their own tools for that i thouight
[10:45] <Araneidae> Ah, could well be.  Never opened the fuse box
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> does 'mount' show them as still mounted?
[10:45]  * Araneidae winces at the involuntary pun
[10:45] <bihari>  sudo rm -r /home/roo0t/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default
[10:45] <Dr_Willis>  stuff in /tmp/ may just need tobe deleted. not unmounte
[10:45] <Araneidae> Yeah
[10:45] <bihari> i used this
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  your uders name is roo0t ?
[10:45] <bihari> but says same no such file or directory
[10:45] <Araneidae> /dev/loop5 on /tmp/tmpDZpkSG type iso9660 (rw)  -- and the other five
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  your users name is roo0t ?
[10:45] <bihari> yes
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  shall we all slap you now? :)
[10:46] <bihari> why?
[10:46] <Araneidae> confusing name, that's all
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  use the TAB key to complete filename/paths  so yoy dont have any typos
[10:46] <bihari> for example?
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  you can login as your roo0t user and use the shorter command i pasted earlier.. and not need sudo at all
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> !tab | bihari
[10:46] <bihari> i am just 18 yer old oki i dont know much about linux :(
[10:47] <Dr_Willis>  rm /path/to/<TAB>   shows a list of names...
[10:47] <Araneidae> bihari,  for example if you type: ls /home/roo0<tab> it will complete to /home/roo0t/
[10:47] <yessir_turan> Hello people, sometimes evince thumbnailer takes 100% for me. can somebody tell me how to block it from running.
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  OR login as the user with the problem and use the command (from a xterm) --> 'rm -rf .gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/'
[10:47] <Araneidae> Actually, /home/r<tab> will probably complete to /home/roo0t , depending on your other users
[10:48] <Lord_Devi> Araneidae, http://www.linux-consulting.com/Amd_AutoFS/autofs-5.html#ss5.3 Is a pretty good autofs guide there..
[10:48] <bihari> so what to type now ? in xtrem terminal?
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> Araneidae:  at least they fixed the bug where you could actually make your initial user be named 'root' wich was proberly what he would of used.. if he was able to. :)
[10:48] <Araneidae> Lord_Devi, thanks very much.  Sigh.  Yet another tool to learn :(
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> bihari: login as your roo0t user and use the shorter command i pasted earlier.. and not need sudo at all
[10:49] <yessir_turan> Sorry to repeat, but this seems a busy channel, so will have to repeat, evince-thumbnailer is taking 100%, how to disable it.
[10:49] <Araneidae> The tiresome thing about being a developer is just how many damned different tools you have to learn!
[10:49] <lobito> hello, does anyone know how to hide a file to windows?? (I have ubuntu and a external hd, where I have some files I need to be hidden under windows pcs)
[10:49] <bihari> rm -rf .gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/ i used this command in terminal :-s
[10:50] <Szgan> hello i have a small problem :(
[10:50] <yessir_turan> use some fat32 tool that can set attrib +s and attrib +h
[10:50] <bihari> nuthng happen
[10:50] <Lord_Devi> Araneidae, It's really not that bad. Create an autofs.misc with this in it: "cdrom     -fstype=iso9660,ro  :/dev/cdrom" and tell autofs.master to include autofs.misc and you're done pretty much (for cdroms)
[10:50] <yessir_turan> lobito: this was for you.
[10:50] <bihari> i have an Idea :D
[10:50] <vot> lobito, what fs is are the files on
[10:50] <yessir_turan> read my earlier last messge.
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  you are then trying to start gnome-terminal after you ran that command?
[10:50] <vot> is\are
[10:50] <Araneidae> lobito, presumably the external drive is mounted over samba?  As far as I'm aware you can't set the -h bits
[10:50] <Szgan> i tried installing the python-twisted libraries but it returned with an error code, now i can't remove it D:
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  or are you just entering the command.. hiting enter.. then waiting for somthing to 'happen' ?
[10:50] <lobito> with attrib +r +h still can be seen if they put "show hidden files"
[10:51] <yessir_turan> people, does anybody know how to stop evince-thumbnailer, I'm killing it -9 and its respawning, always takes 100% CPU.
[10:51] <bihari> nuthing happen same r000t@root-0s:~$ comes
[10:51] <lobito> is just an external hd, sometimes people borrow it from me
[10:51] <maco> yessir_turan: there may be a setting somewhere in nautilus (the file browser) to turn thumbnails for files off & on
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  err.. yes.. that makes sence.. thats how the terminal works
[10:51] <lobito> and I need tome school docs to be hidden
[10:51] <lobito> some
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  so run gnome-terminal now and see if it works
[10:51] <bihari> Dr_Willis,  i have an idea
[10:51] <bihari> i have teamviwer
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  i have some ideas also.. most of them involve you learning some shell basics. :)
[10:52] <bihari> why dont you come and fix the problem and show me
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  you have deleted the file.. now run 'gnome-terminal' and see if it works
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  as far as i can tell it IS now fixed..   untill you run 'gnome-terminal' and prove other wise
[10:52] <ahmadhesni> some body help me for create VPN connection, plz
[10:52] <bihari> There was an error creating the child process for this termina << i got this now
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  thats difrernt error then what you had earlier?
[10:54] <yessir_turan> maco: Its either all or none, no indiv setting for pdfs.
[10:54] <atroy1994> can anyone give me a link from where i can order ubuntu cd for free?
[10:54] <Szgan> ubuntu site :p
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  since it does work for your other user.  that points to it being some gnome setting issue. so you could just reset ALL your gnome settings. :)  http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> !shipit
[10:55] <bihari> There was a problem with the command for this terminal<< this message
[10:55] <ahmadhesni> some body help me for create VPN connection, plz
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  when was the last time gnome-terminal worked? what was you doing right befor it broke?
[10:56] <bihari> humm just 5 hour before
[10:56] <Araneidae> lobito, you've only to reliable ways to hide files: 1. don't put them where they can be seen; or 2. encyrpt them.
[10:56] <bihari> nuthing nmap
[10:56] <bihari> and also i was having some graphical issue
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  i would suggest a total reset of the gnome settings then. that might fix the issue.
[10:57] <bihari> http://img69.imageshack.us/i/screen1wa.png/
[10:57] <bihari> look at this before i have this issue :(
[10:57] <bihari> http://img69.imageshack.us/i/screen1wa.png/
[10:57] <bihari> be right back
[10:58] <ahmadhesni> some body help me for create VPN connection, plz
[10:59] <Dr_Willis>  ahmadhesni  the litlte vpn wizard thing dosent work? or what? give the channel details.
[10:59] <bihari> yes am back now
[10:59] <bihari> so how to set this gnome
[11:00] <bihari> and do i lost my all compiled softwear?
[11:00] <lobito> okay, I can cypher a file with seahorse, but how do I set the cache to 0 ?? I mean, if I decypher a file, and after a minute I want to decypher it again, I want the sistem to prompt me for password again
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  clarify what you just said.. I dident understand any of it.
[11:01] <buff> when using synaptic package manager, what is the difference between removal and complete removal?
[11:01] <bihari> i mean to say if i reset of the gnome setting then do i have lost my all valuable data?
[11:01] <hanasaki> what can be used to make an image that a desktop can boot over the network with windows on it? hosted on ubuntu as the server
[11:01] <bihari> losse*
[11:01] <Araneidae> I think lobito is using http://projects.gnome.org/seahorse/ for managing his encyrption of a volume, but it's caching his key longer than wanted
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  what data where> it should just delete your gnome customzations and thats it.
[11:02] <bihari> oh oki :p
[11:02] <bihari> thats kewl then
[11:02] <bihari> so sir Dr_Willis  tell me the way for gnome seting
[11:02] <Araneidae> buff, there are some configuration files in /etc and other places; 'complete removal' deletes thoes as well
[11:02] <vot> hanasaki, depends what you want
[11:02] <hanasaki> vot?
[11:02] <vot> but you could aoe or iscsi boot it
[11:02] <bazhang> bihari, they have told you many many times already
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  ive pasted the url to the commands several times.
[11:02] <Araneidae> bihari, he did, 8 minutes ago
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> bihari:xfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[11:03] <vot> this is a diskless approach
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> oops misspasted
[11:03] <Araneidae> http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[11:03] <vot> if you want to install it over the network thats different
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> there ya go. :)
[11:03] <lobito> yep, I need the key cached like a second or so
[11:03] <vot> and its probably a lot easier to do it via wds (windows deployment services)
[11:03] <buff> thanks Araneidae
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> bihari:   see url that Araneidae  pasted.
[11:03] <Araneidae> I think seahorse looks like a key manager, it's not the app actually doing the encryption
[11:04] <TheMageSlayer> p'kek... l8r y'all
[11:04] <maco> Araneidae: you are correct
[11:04] <bihari> oki
[11:04] <Fudge> hi anyone know the package name for hp server management?
[11:04] <Araneidae> lobito, If you can figure out how to talk to the encryption tool directly then you can maybe bypass its caching of the key
[11:06] <mehdi0334378988> hey. Which linux should i use for my old Pentium 3 256MB ram computer?
[11:07] <Fudge> try lubuntu
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> mehdi0334378988:  what do you want to 'do' with it. even lubuntu may be a bit overload for that old a thing
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> mehdi0334378988:  more ram would help it a lot however.
[11:08] <Fudge> based on the lxde desktop which is fast weight graphical environment mehdi0334378988
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> mehdi0334378988:  whats the cpu speed also?
[11:08] <aeiou_> im getting a download speed of 6000 Bytes/s with the update manager, is this normal or is there a way to speed it up?
[11:08] <mehdi0334378988> my CPU is 1 GHz...
[11:09] <mehdi0334378988> i waNT TO USE IT FOR WEB SURFING AND LISTENING MUSIC....
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> mehdi0334378988:  try the lubuntu - it would be the lightest 'desktop' variant of ubuntu you can get. but lubuntu is still a bit of a 'work in progress'
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> so has some rough edges. Theres the #lubuntu channel also.
[11:10] <mehdi0334378988> If i upgrade my ram to 512 MB, would that help?
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> mehdi0334378988:  of course it would help. :) you think it would hurt?
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> 512 ram would proberly be a HUGE boost.
[11:11] <shauno> If it's cheap enough.  otherwise you may want to throw it in the kitty for your next machine
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> http://lubuntu.net/
[11:11] <veltinho> oi
[11:11] <slow-motion> hi
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> I managed to pick up a box-o-old-ram at a rummage sale for $2  :)
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> got all sorts of old chips in there. heh
[11:12] <shauno> well, I'd call that "cheap enough" :)
[11:12] <Araneidae> lubuntu sounds interesting.    I've got a whole batch of different DDR sticks of varying vintage, but no idea what they're good for anymore
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> thats always been issues with ram. :)
[11:13] <vot> youd be better off getting a new machine with atleast a core 2
[11:13] <vot> the power savings would be worth it
[11:13] <Dr_Willis>  Unless he dosent have any $$ at all.. :)
[11:13]  * Araneidae runs around 200 machines running Linux with 64MB RAM and 32MB flash -- and that's ample for their needs
[11:14] <coz_> Firstgear,  not sure let me check
[11:14] <shauno> (ot) sadly, I think my desktop is too old to run linux. no mmu = no go
[11:14] <Araneidae> Of course, the desktop is a bit of a memory and processor hog
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> shauno:  eww.. that is old.
[11:14] <bihari> Dr_Willis,  muhha thanks you sort out my problem \:d/
[11:14] <sweetpi> Araneidae: a 250mhz P3? underclocked?
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  next time you reinstall.. pick a more normal user name also. :)
[11:15] <Araneidae> No, no, I'm misremembering.
[11:15] <bihari> :p oki i will
[11:15] <Araneidae> sweetpi, it's a P2 350 ;)
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  i still wonder how you managed to mess up the gnome settings so badly
[11:15] <Araneidae> That'll really fly
[11:15] <bihari> well i am just newbi
[11:15] <sweetpi> Aragon: zoomzoom :)
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> Lowest end box i got is a Celeron 500 I think. :) its in the garrage. with Puppy Linux on it.
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> !manual | bihari
[11:15] <bihari> and i love to do expriement
[11:16] <k00giez> !party
[11:16] <coz_> FireCrotch,  I am not seeing anything in gconf for that... I may be missing though
[11:16] <vot> bihari, really
[11:16] <vot> stick your finger in the power socket
[11:16] <vot> lets see what happens
[11:16] <bihari> yes i have always curosity to know about it
[11:16] <coz_> Firstgear,  I may be missing that in gconf
[11:16] <coz_> FireCrotch,  sorry wrong person
[11:17] <Araneidae> bihari, you need to refrain from using sudo in most of your experiments ... unless you don't mind reinstalling ;)
[11:17] <shauno> bihari: I might advise backups if you can.  otherwise, don't let anyone tell you not to experiment.  that's how most of us learnt
[11:17] <Firstgear> Firstgear, ok
[11:17] <bihari> oki
[11:17] <bihari> i will
[11:17] <coz_> FireCrotch,  I dont see anything under  /apps/metacity/general for that so far  I am not finding anything online about it either
[11:17] <coz_> FireCrotch, sorry again
[11:17] <Firstgear> coz_:ok
[11:17] <coz_> Firstgear,  I am still looking however
[11:18] <bihari> i have question what is the diffrence in kbuntu and ubuntu
[11:18] <bihari> ?
[11:18] <Firstgear> coz_: thanks for looking.
[11:19] <MaRk-I> bihari: a k
[11:19] <vot> kde vs gnome
[11:19] <shauno> bihari: kubuntu comes with extra k
[11:19] <bihari> really?
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> KDE = Kubuntu, Gnome - ubuntu
[11:19] <MaRk-I> bihari: ubuntu = gnome desktop, kubuntu=kde
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu - lxde, xubuntu = XFCE
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> mythbuntu - MythTV setup :)
[11:20] <vot> i want a tubuntu
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> and i forget the others out there.
[11:20] <bihari> why so much small differece
[11:20] <Araneidae> t?
[11:20] <vot> where they just dont put x in the install :P
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  because its not a 'small' differance
[11:20] <vot> ;)
[11:20] <Araneidae> Yeah.  I run Debian on my network server (headless)
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> theres also the underlieing goal of having the whole  thing fit on a 700mb cd.
[11:21] <bihari> what about debian?i think ubuntu is the part of debian
[11:21] <Araneidae> The other advantage of Debian stable is that it really *is* stable
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  its not part of debian.
[11:21] <bihari> then?
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  its 'related' to debian.
[11:21] <Araneidae> bihari, don't say that, the Debian people will kill you
[11:21] <Araneidae> You could say Ubuntu is a "child" of Debian in a way
[11:21] <lg188> i got soem trouble with my audio devices
[11:22] <shauno> bihari: the guys that started ubuntu realised that debian's system is actually pretty decent.  so adopted as much of it as made sense
[11:22] <bihari> i think debian is more complicated? then ubuntu
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  i think you need to go learn some more linux basics. :)
[11:22] <lg188> my microphone is f-up
[11:22] <Araneidae> Debian is ... yes, less beginner oriented
[11:22] <bihari> yes Dr_Willis  give me some link
[11:22] <sweetpi> http://www.google.com/ - just putting it out there
[11:22] <Araneidae> Actually, to be frank, the #debian channels are pretty non expert hostile
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  once you learn the 'fundamentals' of linux. debian vs ubuntu - boils down to  just a few differances. :)
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> bihari:  i pasted the ubuntu manual url earlier
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> !manual | bihari
[11:23] <coz_> Firstgear,  this is all I could find    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=289345
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> Know the 'fundamentals' and  you should be able to get work done on most any disrto out there.
[11:24] <bihari> humm now brb let me read out this
[11:24] <Firstgear> coz_, thanks.
[11:25] <alex_> load /home/alex/Desktop/xdcc-client.pl
[11:26] <Lord_Devi> Araneidae, Yeah, there are a few distributions that suffer from that.
[11:26] <alex_> load '/home/alex/Desktop/xdcc-client.pl'
[11:26] <Lord_Devi> Araneidae, However, Ubuntu's documentation is really bad. The forums aren't so great either.
[11:26] <sweetpi> alex_: /load
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> I find that people dont even bother to read teh docs. when they do exist.
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> Or they post a question to the forums - instead of searching and finding the question/answer alleady asked..
[11:28] <shauno> Dr_Willis: what can you do.  either fix it, or file a bug against people :p
[11:28]  * Dr_Willis goes off to  do his daily check of the forums.
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> shauno:  reformat the people.
[11:29]  * airtonix re-formats Dr_Willis
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> shauno:  in this channel at least the goal is to 'educate' people. Ive seen   people get mad in here when we try to educate them. instead of just giving them an 'instant fix' :)
[11:32] <rocket16> Hello all.
[11:33] <rocket16> I wish to get a nice browser, as an add-on, besides Firefox. I am downloading Opera 10.60. What I want is speed, and low-resource consumption. Is Opera perfect? Or is there a better one?
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> Try opera and see. is the bootom line
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> theres also the google/chromimun browser
[11:34] <rocket16> Dr_Willis: Thanks, :)
[11:34] <erwinsoo> how about chrome
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> may as well install all 3 and try them all
[11:34] <coz_> rocket16,  there is also  midori
[11:34] <coz_> or did someone say that already
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> i end up falling back to firefox. becauuse of the plugins for it. that i perfer.
[11:35] <Archdave_> help identify
[11:35] <shauno> I haven't been watching the desktop space for a few years.  did they ever get epiphany using webkit?
[11:35] <coz_> rocket16,  I am finding midori  very nice  at least enough to make it default browser but i also fall back to firefox often
[11:35] <rocket16> Dr_Willis: erwinsoo I already tried Chrome and Chromium, but multiple windows in them also consumes more memory.
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> rocket16:  cant say that ive ever noticed the issue.
[11:35] <Fudge> anyone know how to unmute on main soundcard with amixer, having trouble working it out
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> I tend to use tabs. :)
[11:35] <rocket16> coz_: I am already running Midori, but I can't get Flash plugin working in that.
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> worrying about browser speed/ussage then - finding that flash is taking up more ram/cpu then the whole browser.. :) is so.. amuseing
[11:36] <coz_> rocket16,  oh? its working here  ..are you using adobe flash?
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> heh..
[11:36] <tony_> hello
[11:36] <coz_> rocket16,  wait ...come to think of it   flash does have a few issues with midori  it works then it doesnt   > i havent figured out why yet
[11:37] <jimlovell777> Ok I really hope someone can help me. I have a new 64 bit laptop with Lucid installed. I tried the x86 and 64 bit versions of Ubuntu and both behave the same, I can see the neighbors WPA2 network but not my WPA network (I must use WPA for compatability with other network devices in the home). Why can't I see or connect to my network. My previous laptop still connects using Lucid just fine.
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> I got the 3 main browsers, firefox, opera, GoogleChrome icons in my main panel. i normally use FF. then try the others out every so often if im feeling  bored.
[11:37] <KrAsHeR> I'm looking for info about how to config the multimedia keys (fn + other key) in a Compaq Presario CQ50-113BR Laptop, running Ubuntu 10.04... i've tried to use xev to obtain the keycodes but it doesn't get any when a key combo (fn + other key) is pressed...
[11:37] <Voldenet> And?
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> ive had some sites that flash works with in Opera. but not FF. or visa versa..  it can be a real annoyance
[11:37] <ozBoy> hey guys how do you install a .run file through termanial
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> ozBoy:  you 'run' a run file..
[11:38] <ozBoy> how do i do that
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> sh whatever.run, or 'chmod +x whatever.run' then './whatever.run'
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> the docs where you got the whatever.run should of mentioned that.
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> we sort of had a  heated thread on the use of .run/.bin/whateber files in linux in some forum posts :) and in this channel at times.. heh
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> they tend to be problematic
[11:40] <ozBoy> can any one help me i am trying to get my computer to allow me to plug my TV through the HDMI port on the side of my computer
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> ozBoy:  you mean use the TV as a monitor?
[11:40] <ozBoy> yes
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> ozBoy:  and your chipset is?
[11:41] <ozBoy> i have a nvidia GT220M on an ASUS N61VG computer
[11:41] <rocket16> !best
[11:41] <Voldenet> install official nv drivers
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> my TV showed up same as a compuiter monitor here. In the nvidia-settings tool. using hdmi
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> ozBoy:  you did install the nvidia drivers?
[11:41] <ozBoy> i dont know how to do that
[11:41] <ozBoy> the ones that came with Ubuntu or the ones off the site
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> ozBoy:   system -> admin -> hardware drivers
[11:42] <ozBoy> yes i did but it still would not let me
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> ozBoy:  always try the ones in the repos first. (hardware-drivers tool)
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> ozBoy:  you then ran the nvidia-settings tool?
[11:42] <ozBoy> ok well i will reinstall them hold on
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> You removed them? what drivers are you using now then?
[11:42] <Voldenet> vesafb ;P
[11:43] <KrAsHeR> I'm looking for info about how to config the multimedia keys (fn + other key) in a Compaq Presario CQ50-113BR Laptop, running Ubuntu 10.04... i've tried to use xev to obtain the keycodes but it doesn't get any when a key combo (fn + other key) is pressed...
[11:43] <ozBoy> ok im in the NVIDIA X Server Settings
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> Voldenet:  CGA16 colors. :)
[11:43] <Araneidae> Dr_Willis, your mention of nvidia-settings reminds me: does the Nvidia driver *still* not properly understand xrandr?
[11:43] <unimatrix> what's that command that lets you configure what processes start at boot time and in what order?
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> Araneidae:  ive never noticed the issue.
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> unimatrix:  with Upstart you normally dont worry about the order.
[11:43] <Voldenet> unimatrix, /etc/rcX.d
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> unimatrix:  what ones get loaded are in /etc/init   or if they are older services in /etc/rc2.d
[11:44] <unimatrix> Dr_Willis i need to configure pulseaudio and mpd which still run in the old-fashioned way (/etc/init.d)
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> unimatrix:  even the ones in intit.d are actually getting ran by a upstart service. :)
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> unimatrix:  configure what part of it?
[11:45] <Araneidae> Dr_Willis, when I run xrandr it only shows the compound desktop size: 3200x1200, no option for resizing or enabling individual screens from the command line
[11:45] <muzvare> hi all.... hope i an get some help... need to get iburst pcmcia modem working on ubuntu 10.01
[11:45] <muzvare> 10.04 sorry
[11:45] <Araneidae> Compare with the ATI Radeon driver and the difference is startling
[11:45] <unimatrix> Dr_Willis just the boot order... mpd is booting before pulseaudio, and it needs to be the other way around
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> Araneidae:   thats where twinview asnd xrandr are fighting I guess.
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> unimatrix:  change the S50pulseaudio to be somthing hither then  what mpd has - perhaps.
[11:45] <Ascavasaion> How do I download Hotmail e-mails into Evolution.  I have tried Hotway hotsmtp and it does not work :(
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> unimatrix:  or change teh S??mpd  to be S98mpd so it starts after pulse.
[11:46] <Voldenet> Ascavasaion, tried via imap or pop3?
[11:46] <Ascavasaion> Voldenet: Nope.. let me try.
[11:48] <Ascavasaion> Voldenet: Nopers.
[11:48] <Voldenet> Ascavasaion, you did things like here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200408 ?
[11:48] <unimatrix> Dr_Willis isn't there some util that lets you do that in terminal? I distinctly remember it, but not the name
[11:49] <Ascavasaion> Voldenet: that is the exact one I followed.
[11:49] <sweetpi> Ascavasaion: http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2009/03/04/setting-up-evolution-mail-gmail-and-hotmail/
[11:50] <Voldenet> hm, i didn't use hotmail, but i understand they got no pop3 or imap support, right?
[11:50] <unimatrix> Dr_Willis ah yes, found it... it's sysv-rc-conf
[11:51] <Ascavasaion> Voldenet: I doubt it.  I remember Outlook Express used to be able to... but I am not using Outlook Express now hehe
[11:51] <yessir> Voldenet: They have ActiveSync, os you can use it with outlook.
[11:51] <Ascavasaion> yessir: ?
[11:51] <sweetpi> they have pop3 support.. thats the link i gave(not sure about imap support)
[11:51] <Voldenet> yessir, activesync is well supported by hotmail and gmap
[11:51] <Voldenet> gmail
[11:52] <ozBoy> hey guys got the screen thing to work now for the next part
[11:52] <muzvare> need help setting up iBurst wireless in ubuntu 10.04... can anyone help?
[11:52] <ozBoy> how do i get it to put sound out through the HDMI to the TV instesad of the computer speakers
[11:53] <slacker-> Hi
[11:54] <slacker-> I'm having trouble with sound on my lucid box
[11:54] <ozBoy> how do i get it to put sound out through the HDMI to the TV instesad of the computer speakers
[11:54] <slacker-> aplay works for root, runs for user a but I can't hear anything and freezes for another user
[11:54] <slacker-> all users are in the audio group
[11:55] <slacker-> where to start?
[11:55] <Fudge> can someone please help me figure out why no sounds comign out of my audigy2?
[11:55] <Fudge> lspci says Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB0400 Audigy2 Value
[11:56] <slacker-> all of /dev/snd/* is owned by root:audio and modes ug+rw
[11:56] <Voldenet> Fudge, alsamixer
[11:57] <Voldenet> i believe you got that nasty low-level volume error
[11:57] <ozBoy> how do i get the sound out HDMI
[11:57] <bullgard> [GNOME, Ubuntu 10.04] What is the filename of my Login screen image?  (http://imagebin.org/104771)?
[11:57] <Fudge> slacker-  was that for me? Voldenet  alsamixer is cranked and i had someone ssh  -X in to check as well
[11:57] <abhi_nav> hi
[11:57] <Fudge> its headless, im blind anyway and naturally no sounds a bit sucky
[11:58] <slacker-> Fudge: no, I've got my own problems with sound
[11:58] <Brookliny> hi
[11:58] <Fudge> kay slacker-
[11:58] <ozBoy> can any one help me enable the sound through HDMI when i have my TV Pluged in
[11:58] <Brookliny> yes
[11:59] <Voldenet> Fudge, is speaker-test working?
[11:59] <Voldenet> if not, then try alsaconf
[12:00] <Fudge> /bin/sh: pasteinit: not found
[12:00] <Fudge> cat: write error: Broken pipe
[12:01] <guntbert> Fudge: its pastebinit  -- you have to install it
[12:01] <Fudge> /bin/sh: pasteinit: not found
[12:01] <Fudge> cat: write error: Broken pipe
[12:01] <Fudge> http://pastebin.com/bWF3GEnM
[12:01] <Voldenet> Fudge, apt-get install pastebinit
[12:01] <Voldenet> not pasteinit
[12:01] <Fudge> sorry about that, thats my dev/sndstat
[12:01] <Voldenet> paste bin it
[12:02] <vikas> hi
[12:02] <vikas> any one there
[12:02] <Ascavasaion> Nope... those links do not help me.
[12:03] <Fudge> vikas ?
[12:03] <Raphi974> Hi everyone
[12:04] <vikas> i want ubuntu boot from windows7 boot loader
[12:04] <guntbert> !who | Ascavasaion
[12:04] <vikas> i have easyBCD
[12:04] <MaRk-I> Fudge: in audio preferences/hardware tab make sure it's "Analog Stereo Duplex"  instead of digital
[12:05] <Ascavasaion> guntbert: hehehehehe
[12:05] <Fudge> MaRk-I  lookin
[12:06] <kiasanth> my computer isn't detecting anything in my PCI port, I've tried in ubuntu 10.04 and Windows 7, I wanna get 4 screens going but I need my second graphics card for that
[12:07] <guntbert> kiasanth: that sound like a hardware/bios problem - try it in ##hardware
[12:07] <guntbert> *sounds
[12:07] <slacker-> so..
[12:07] <cousin_mario> hello
[12:07] <kiasanth> gunbert: thanks alot, on my way
[12:08] <cousin_mario> what do you use to have vnc support on tsclient?
[12:09] <domjohnson> http://www.netmarketshare.com/os-market-share.aspx?qprid=9  <<< Windows market share has just been going down, while every other operating system is going up :D
[12:10] <sweetpi> cousin_mario: vnc4viewer
[12:10] <guntbert> !ot | domjohnson
[12:10] <cousin_mario> sweetpi: ok
[12:11] <cousin_mario> sweetpi: that package doesn't exist
[12:11] <Fudge> MaRk-I  thanks for the idea but thats all fine
[12:12] <cousin_mario> sweetpi: xvnc4viewer perhaps?
[12:12] <MaRk-I> Fudge: sorry and np
[12:12] <Fudge> np
[12:12] <sweetpi> cousin_mario: yes, sorry
[12:12] <orschiro> hello guys, I want to run my rc.local after resume from hibernating/suspend. which config do I have to change for that?
[12:13] <cousin_mario> sweetpi: k thanks
[12:13] <cousin_mario> bye
[12:15] <slacker-> Fudge: do you have a Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER chipset?
[12:15] <killerforeverr> helllo
[12:15] <Fudge> not sure slacker-
[12:16] <io> !hi | killerforeverr
[12:16] <killerforeverr> do u people play last co
[12:16] <slacker-> Fudge: lspci will tell you
[12:16] <io> killerforeverr: This is the Ubuntu support channel. Is there something you need help with?
[12:17] <Fudge> hp proliant dl380 G4
[12:17] <killerforeverr> do u play lastco
[12:17] <Fudge> oh ok slacker-
[12:17] <prodigel> hi all. what param should I put in grub to make the kernel boot in root console? I know ubuntu has them by default, but I have a centos installation that doesn't
[12:18] <bazhang> killerforeverr, did you have an ubuntu support question?
[12:18] <aeiou_> im getting a download speed of 6000 Bytes/s with the update manager, is this normal or is there a way to speed it up?
[12:18] <aeiou_> is there just alot of users sharing the bandwidth or something?
[12:18] <aeiou_> *are
[12:18] <sweetpi> prodigel: single
[12:19] <oCean_> orschiro: rc.local runs at boottime. I think scripts for resume should go in /etc/apm/resume.d, not exactly sure what the syntax there should be
[12:19] <Fudge> http://pastebin.com/VhJynCbb
[12:19] <Fudge> plz notice url of lspci output slacker-
[12:19] <OerHeks> aeiou_, yes, we al share the same free updateservers, so be patient
[12:19] <bullgard> [GNOME, Ubuntu 10.04] What is the filename of my Login screen image?  (http://imagebin.org/104771)?
[12:19] <geirha> aeiou_: Try setting a mirror closer to you, in System -> Admin. -> Software Sources.
[12:19] <slacker-> Fudge: Hm, that's a 'no' I suppose
[12:20] <orschiro> @oCean_: thank you. It might be enough to link rc.local into this directory?
[12:20] <Fudge> its actually a rack server
[12:20] <Fudge> and i want sound on it for console text to speech
[12:21] <slacker-> Fudge: I thought we might be suffering from the same problem. Not any more
[12:21] <aeiou_> OerHeks, ok thanks. I wasn't sure if it was a bandwidth problem or a config problem, seems like its a bandwidth one
[12:21] <aeiou_> thats no problem :)
[12:21] <coz_> hey guys.. I am having a strange thing happen with synaptic on karmic... if I open from /system/admininstration/  it freezes x  ..I have to restart x   killall synatpic and open from terminal... any ideas?
[12:22] <oCean_> orschiro: no, I don't expect that to be enough. You have to find an example resume.d script, and modify for your own need.
[12:22] <geirha> aeiou_: If you choose Download from -> Others, there'll be a button to test for the fastest mirror.
[12:22] <Fudge> hope you figure it out slacker-
[12:22] <aeiou_> geirha, thanks i'll try thatnow
[12:23] <aeiou_> *that now
[12:24] <aeiou_> is there a version of ubuntu aimed at notebooks with a slower CPU and smaller ram?
[12:25] <aeiou_> geirha, i get an error message "no suitable server found, please check you are connected to the internet"
[12:25] <io> !minimal | aeiou_
[12:25] <OerHeks> !unr Ubuntu netbook remix
[12:25] <alakoo> aeiou_: xfce is lighter than KDE or gnome
[12:25] <MaRk-I> !nbr | aeiou_
[12:25] <aeiou_> geirha, which is weird since im already connected :)
[12:25] <Fudge> and easypeasy
[12:25] <oCean_> Fudge: I never tried to make sound work for a server. So I don't know, but this might be useful: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7783967&postcount=7
[12:26] <geirha> aeiou_: Yes, that is odd. Not sure why it would give you that message :/
[12:27] <ozBoy> hi guys i need some help i can not get sound to come out of HDMI  when pluged into my TV when i had windows it worked
[12:28] <aeiou_> MaRk-I, I presume there is no way to turn my installation into an UNR version without a re-install?
[12:30] <MaRk-I> aeiou_: no idea, you asked for a version, not how to transform an already installed OS
[12:30] <io> !sound | ozBoy
[12:30] <io> ozBoy: Did you take a look at that page already?
[12:30] <Raphi974> aeiou_, you can install the GUI
[12:30] <aliasd> I have a Feisty box here. Anyone know how many steps I need to go through to upgrade the distro to Lucid? Anyone tried a direct Feisty - Lucid upgrade? I think this one was originally a Hoary.
[12:30] <bullgard> [GNOME, Ubuntu 10.04] What is the filename of my Login screen image?  (http://imagebin.org/104771)?
[12:30] <aeiou_> what is ubuntu-umpc?
[12:31] <ozBoy> yes i have looked at a lot of different areas on the internet but none helped
[12:31] <io> !info ubuntu-umpc | aeiou_
[12:31] <spiky> aliasd: i think you would be better with a clean install
[12:31] <Raphi974> io, it's not a package
[12:31] <Raphi974> io, it's a version of Ubuntu for mid-pc
[12:31] <aeiou_> i presume it isnt what i've installed then, i just went for the standard download from the ubuntu website
[12:32] <aliasd> me too spiky, but... you know... not an option.
[12:33] <geirha> aliasd: You have to upgrade feisty -> gutsy -> hardy -> lucid
[12:34] <blain> first update your local release and the upgrade
[12:34] <geirha> !eol | aliasd
[12:34] <Raphi974> geirha, you forgot Ibex
[12:34] <aliasd> So, Hardy > Lucid is OK?
[12:34] <blain> not doing this has caused me problems
[12:34] <Raphi974> aliasd, no, there's Intrepid Ibex
[12:34] <geirha> Raphi974: No, hardy and lucid are LTS releases, you can upgrade directly from LTS to LTS
[12:34] <Raphi974> geirha, ho ? really ?
[12:34] <Raphi974> geirha, nice to know :p thx
[12:35] <blain> yes it's possible
[12:35] <geirha> Raphi974: Yep, so if you don't fancy upgrading the system too often, stick with LTS releases ;)
[12:35] <aliasd> haha so I would have been better off to leave it at Dapper :) Ironic :)
[12:35] <aeiou_> could someone confirm if these instructions would be suitable to turn my standard desktop download into a notebook installation? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Mobile/HowTo/TurnUMPCDesktopIntoNetbook
[12:36] <geirha> aliasd: Indeed :)
[12:36] <Fudge> oCean_  don tthink thats helpful
[12:36] <io> aeiou_: You're using the standard version, not umpc though?
[12:36] <ozBoy> hi guys i need some help i can not get sound to come out of HDMI  when pluged into my TV when i had windows it worked
[12:36] <aeiou_> io: ok so i guess they are not suitable then!
[12:36] <nawk> Prior to grub 2, I would edit menu.lst to add new OS boot entries
[12:36] <io> aeiou_: Clearly not.
[12:37] <nawk> which  files do I need to edit in grub 2?
[12:38] <ozBoy> any one
[12:38] <ozBoy> i would really like to be able to do this
[12:38] <aliasd> geirha, thanks for the link, exactly what I couldn't find and needed.
[12:39] <traskmind> Nautilus is saying my trash can has stuff in it, but it quits when I try to empty my Trash?
[12:39] <MaRk-I> !grub2 > nawk
[12:39] <io> nawk: "/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[12:40] <aliasd> Calculating upgrade...
[12:40] <aliasd> oh dear god.
[12:42] <spiky> aliasd: is it alot??
[12:42] <aliasd> 1138 upgraded, 137 newly installed, 13 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[12:42] <aliasd> That's step 1
[12:42] <ozBoy> how do i get HDMI audio and video
[12:42] <Raphi974> aliasd, How many Gb ?
[12:42] <aliasd> 760mb.
[12:42] <aliasd> not too bad.
[12:43] <Raphi974> aliasd, not a lot
[12:43] <geirha> aliasd: Hardy will be supported until april 2011, so once you get to hardy, you can stay there for a while.
[12:43] <aliasd> I think I might want to :)
[12:44] <aliasd> Will be keeping this box at LTS from now on for sure.
[12:44] <aliasd> I'm sure we all made admin mistakes back in '07 though...
[12:47] <bihari> i have question i am affraid when i open my computer my files are being checked dev/ in this way...
[12:49] <ozBoy> can any one help  i am trying to get audio out of my HDMI port
[12:49] <aliasd> bihari, could you rephrase your question?
[12:49] <nicofs> Can anyone help troubleshoot my 3G connection? All I get is "Disconnected - you are now offline".
[12:49] <amabo> can anyone help me install firefox 4.0b? it downloads as a tar.gz file and i don't know where to extract everything to
[12:50] <spiky> nicofs: have you just installed ubntu if so you need to update 1st
[12:50] <nicofs> spiky: my (x)ubuntu is up to date... and the connection used to work...
[12:51] <aliasd> nicofs, I get that sometimes when I have no reception
[12:51] <bihari> aliasd when i open my comouter <switching on CPU> my files are being checked dev/ something.  and i am affraid of this beacuse i have already lost my previous version of ubuntu in this way as it was also show me the same fashon checking
[12:51] <nicofs> aliasd: im in the metropolitan area of munic. reception is the least of my worries...
[12:51] <aliasd> amabo, it probably just wants to be extracted over /... Look inside the archive to be sure
[12:52] <aliasd> over "/"
[12:52] <blain> munich?
[12:52] <aliasd> nicofs, used to get reception issues in inner Melbourne... You never know.
[12:52] <ozBoy> any one
[12:52] <amabo> aliasd: all of it to root?
[12:53] <aliasd> in fact, in inner cities, it can be harder to place towers about, due to the cost of real estate!
[12:53] <nicofs> asliasd tried same sim card inside my smartphone. even tried various providers. blain: yes munich. lost an h there...
[12:53] <basncy> excuse me ,a C programing problem,i compile this code(http://codepad.org/5P8hWdiZ) using gcc test.c it's output is strlen(str3):6 ?not strlen(str3):5？
[12:53] <QQi> anyone know what website help delete account facebook/twitter ?
[12:54] <aliasd> amabo, well, it would probably have paths relevant to root. You PROBABLY just need to tar xvzf Firefoxwhatever.tar.gz
[12:54] <aliasd> but look inside the archive with file-roller or something to be sure
[12:54] <blain> nicofs i just get problems in garages
[12:54] <geirha> basncy: There's a #c channel here on freenode
[12:55] <kostkon> !ot | QQi
[12:55] <bergLNX> Anyone here actually use Gwibber?
[12:55] <basncy> geirha, Thanks
[12:55] <LjL> basncy: you aren't terminating the string
[12:55] <geirha> basncy: ##c actually, but joining #c should redirect you there.
[12:55] <LjL> basncy: on my system, right now, it returns 34. it could return anything, or make your program crash.
[12:55] <haura> haiiiiiiii
[12:56] <aliasd> bihari, is fsck running?
[12:56] <nicofs> blain: i'm at home. an the sim card works inside my smartphone. it is as if the network manager doesn't even try to connect.... i click connect an it blinks for a millisecond - an then goes back to offline.
[12:56] <spiky> nicofs: Is it worth uninstalling then setting it up again
[12:56] <LjL> basncy: strings in C must always be null-terminated. you can do that by adding '\0' as the last element of the string, or by just defining it as string="hello" (then the compiler will add a null automatically)
[12:56] <aliasd> bihari, did you properly shut down your computer last time you rebooted it?
[12:56] <bihari> yes
[12:56] <aliasd> was it fsck running?
[12:56] <nicofs> spiky: uninstalling what exactly? the connection or xubuntu?
[12:57] <bihari> how to check fsck running or not
[12:57] <aliasd> umm... Was it on computer startup, a filesystem check for errors?
[12:57] <spiky> nicofs: the connection in network manager
[12:58] <Bilz> hi guys
[12:58] <nicofs> spiky: i  did both. same problem with ubuntu and xubuntu... it somehow works at random... there are times i get connected instantly, sometimes i need to try severeal times and for some weeks now, it stopped working alltogether.
[12:58] <basncy> LjL, as you say,if i define str3 like char str3[]={'h','e','l','l','o'};then call function strlen may go wrong?
[12:59] <bergLNX> Any quick way to enable and disable ipv6 here in Ubuntu?
[12:59] <geirha> basncy: strlen doesn't know how long you made str3. It'll keep going until it finds a \0
[12:59] <LjL> basncy: yes. strlen will scan the string until it detects a null character; since you didn't put one there, it may go on "forever" (until it either meets a null by chance, or hits a portion of memory that it's not allowed to access, and crashes)
[13:00] <Bilz> i just installed ubuntu 10.04 onto my usb stick. with the universal usb creator thing linked from the ubuntu page, i selected persistent saving (or whatever its called). Now, I loaded up once and saved a file in the documents. I also set the keyring password and logged in to my wireless. When i restarted, the file in documents was still there but i had to set the password again and retype the password for the wifi. Anyway to fix? and anyway to set
[13:00] <Bilz>  up root on this thing?
[13:00] <basncy> LjL, thanks,i got it
[13:00] <bob_> I have a problem with my computer. For some reason after I installed ubuntu 10.4, windows 7 stopped working. Now I can't access C:\ in windows. Does any have any suggestions?
[13:00] <ozBoy> can some one please help i am trying to fix a problem with no sound coming out of the HDMI
[13:01] <nicofs> bob_ : how exactly did you install ubuntu?
[13:01] <spiky> nicofs: I had this problem even phoned isp about it I then changed the DNS server settings in IPv4
[13:01] <bob_> live cd
[13:01] <nicofs> spiky: to what?
[13:02] <KnightStalker> Hello,How can I backup all of my Ubuntu in a way which I can install it via a bootable disk and it installs the current ubuntu I have without any changes
[13:02] <nicofs> bob_: did you resize the partition in windows or via the ubuntu installer?
[13:02] <KnightStalker> (all settings and users and /bin should be saved and should be installed when I choosed to restore)
[13:03] <bob_> I believe I did it in the ubuntu installer. I first installed 7, then ubuntu 10.4.
[13:03] <spiky> nicofs: I dont think my settings will help as i,m in uk plus different isp but maybe give your isp a call
[13:03] <nicofs> bob_ : does your windows still start/boot or is it gone altogether...
[13:04] <spiky> nicofs: just another thought have you moved the dongle to a different usb port?
[13:04] <majorastro> ubuntu on 733mhz pc with 128 meg of ram slow
[13:04] <nicofs> spiky: i can find the DNS on my isp's homepage, will give it a try. so you manually set the DNS as opposed to automatically getting it...
[13:04] <aliasd> root     18439  0.0  0.1   3456   896 pts/0    D+   22:00   0:00 ls <--- byebye eeepc :(
[13:04] <majorastro> what can I do  to make it faster
[13:04] <Swian> uograde
[13:04] <Swian> upgrade
[13:04] <nicofs> spiky: integrated device. no way of plugging it in elsewhere...
[13:05] <majorastro> Yes I know that
[13:05] <bob_> it still boots, I was having trouble logging on, something about the user account not loading, but I seem to have gotten that fixed. Also, as might be guessed, I cannot currently install anything while in windows since I don't have access to C:\
[13:05] <majorastro> but just fooling around with this ancient pc
[13:05] <majorastro> Chatting with irc works great
[13:05] <Swian> majorastro how about a distro for older slower hardware
[13:06] <Swian> majorasrtro like cd linux or DSL
[13:06] <majorastro> okay which one
[13:06] <Swian> or puppy linux
[13:06] <majorastro> okay
[13:06] <majorastro> puppy linux  yes
[13:06] <Swian> yeah, of the 3 I like puppy best
[13:07] <coz_> hey guys...has the ability to install official nvidia drivers been fixed on lucid?
[13:07] <Swian> coz_ not that I've seen
[13:07] <coz_> Swian,  thats not good new
[13:08] <coz_> Swian,  rather not good "news"
[13:08] <Swian> coz_ no its a pain because the drivers that you can load aren't very stable on some of my hardware
[13:08] <coz_> Swian,  also the nvidia_curent driver offered has a major memory leak
[13:08] <nicofs> spiky: doesn't help...
[13:08] <Cube``> for some reason firefox doesnt scroll down when i press the arrow-down key, why could that be?=
[13:09] <geirha> Cube``: Possibly some flash app has the keyboard focus
[13:09] <spiky> nicofs: ok I understand you cant move it
[13:09] <nicofs> cube``: always or on a specific page?
[13:09] <majorastro> downloadinbg puppy linux
[13:10] <Swian> shouldn't take long
[13:10] <majorastro> can I install puppy linux to hard drive
[13:10] <Swian> small distro
[13:10] <nicofs> spiky: i tried wvdial ans sakis3G - neither worked, sakis because i have my PIN disabled...
[13:10] <Swian> yes
[13:10] <majorastro> okay
[13:12] <serrano1> fsdf
[13:13] <Dupper> Good morning all
[13:13] <crashev> ubuntu 32-bit does not support 4GB of ram? how to change this without kernel recompiling ?
[13:13] <jayvee> I have a Bluetooth headset that pairs beautifully with two of my systems running Ubuntu 9.10. As soon as I upgraded to Ubuntu 10.04, the headset no longer pairs on either of the PCs. It doesn't even try to connect — when I select the headset in the list to pair with, it bombs out saying "Setting up 'X5 Stereo v1.3' failed".
[13:14] <bob_> so nicofs, do you see any fixs for my problem? windows will boot up.
[13:14] <Dupper> Are any of the ubuntu developers here?
[13:14] <jayvee> So obviously it's a regression in 10.04. But frankly I don't care what caused it — I need it paired.
[13:14] <Oer> crashev, ubuntu 32 bit can use more than 4 gb, use the PAE kernel
[13:14] <shauno> crashev: that'd be https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[13:14] <Dupper> jayvee:  My answer as an idiot is that you could downgrade to the other version?
[13:15] <Oer> Dupper, join #Ubuntu-devel
[13:15] <spiky> nicofs: I presume your wlan shows up in lspci?
[13:15] <asanka> my ubuntu system doesn't detect my laptop battery. the model is toshiba l655
[13:15] <serrano1> @Oer: Thanks, I was wondering about that as well :)
[13:15] <Cube``> geirha: nicofs got it thanks
[13:15] <nicofs> bob_: to be honest, i don't know what's wrong... if c were completely inaccessible, windows wouldn't boot...
[13:16] <nicofs> spiky: how do i check?
[13:16] <bob_> ok, thanks
[13:16] <crashev> Oer, shauno: great, thanks, will look into that right now
[13:16] <jayvee> Dupper: I am not going to downgrade to 9.10, because that would regress my graphics performance severely.
[13:16] <bob_> I may just try reinstalling everything.
[13:16] <jayvee> I just wish that Ubuntu could make a single release without breaking something major. I have used every Ubuntu release since 4.10, and every one has had a major regression.
[13:17] <Dupper> wanted to give some props
[13:17] <spiky> nicofs: i,m trying to work on it I dont have a built in 3G like yo mine is a usb dongle
[13:17] <Dupper> I'm 100% not a poweruser needing anything linux specific and this thing still rocks me
[13:17] <maemo> Hi, would a broken soundcard be listed unter /proc/adound/cards ?
[13:17] <nicofs> spiky: well as far as the hardware is concerned it's the same...
[13:17] <recoil_> hi for some reasons my loginscreen does not appear anymore i need to do failsave boot to get into linux...
[13:18] <nicofs> spiky: it's listed as a usb device - like a normal dongle, only that it is bolted to the inside of my netbook...
[13:18] <spiky> nicofs:  not if drivers not loaded
[13:19] <spiky> nicofs:  ok
[13:19] <Dupper> Hmmm... ubuntu seems faster @1GHz than windows was @1.8GHz(same machine, long story...)
[13:20] <maemo> Hi, would a broken soundcard be listed unter /proc/adound/cards ?
[13:21] <Gnea> maemo: depends how 'broken' it is
[13:22] <katya> эээ...
[13:22] <Gnea> !ru | katya
[13:23] <Igor__> Hi. I have a question: I have 1 computer with ubuntu installed and connected to internet (eth0). All is fine, but I can't access internet from laptop connected to that via eth1. Does anybody know hot to adjust roiting?
[13:23] <Gnea> Igor__: eth0? eth1? same computer?
[13:23] <iflema> !ics | Igor__
[13:25] <Igor__> thank you too much for link I will read it
[13:25] <spiky_> leave
[13:27] <crashev> anyone knows what these disturbing kernel messages mean => http://3paste.com/s/1792 ,looks like there is a problem with kernel/panics
[13:30] <maemo> Gnea, *g* kk
[13:31] <shauno> crashev: they are a bit disturbing.  something's not agreeing with PAE there. says it's finding about 3Gb of ram, and then ooming the very next process
[13:32] <crashev> shauno: the same was with normal (not pae) kernel
[13:37] <Grim147> is there like a lamp package or somthing ?
[13:38] <Grim147> Group package*
[13:38] <bazhang> !lamp | Grim147
[13:38] <Grim147> ok so it all has to be done sepratley
[13:38] <bazhang> Grim147, did you read the link?
[13:39] <LjL> Grim147: no, you can just tasksel lamp. as the page says.
[13:39] <Grim147> uhhh :P
[13:39] <Grim147> k
[13:39] <Grim147> thanks
[13:45] <fasp> hi, is there any possibility to automatically detect whether an ip-adress within the network (192.168.2.X) exists or not? I want to use something such as ping or nslookup within a for-loop and collect all available ip-adresses)
[13:45] <spiky> fasp nmap will check
[13:45] <Dupper> can you do that?
[13:47] <aliasd> but nmap has the same exit status if the host is up or not IIRC
[13:50] <spiky> fasp netstat -t
[13:53] <fasp> spiky Are there parameters which make ping return a boolean?
[13:54] <Zorge> anyone any good with mod-rewrites and how to get working with ubuntu/apache2 via sites-available (not .htaccess enable/use).  At one stage I followed some hack job copy/paste files and editting but it didn't feel right
[13:54] <dassouki> how can i programatically add a script to ubuntu so it runs automatically
[13:54] <oCean_> Zorge: better ask in #httpd
[13:58] <nawk> besides keeping the same name, grub2 is quite a radical change
[13:59] <Johndoe321> anyone know if ubuntu supports armel4 architecture?
[13:59] <Johndoe321> !armel
[14:00] <slacker-> need some help with sound please. aplay -l lists two devices but if I play a file, it just hangs and does nothing
[14:01] <Johndoe321> slacker: aplay uses alsa, do u have alsa instead of pulseaudio
[14:02] <slacker-> Johndoe321: I've got a pulseaudio running
[14:02] <slacker-> for that user at lealts
[14:02] <slacker-> least
[14:02] <Johndoe321> slacker: you may have to also install alsa
[14:03] <slacker-> Johndoe321: aplay works for root
[14:03] <slacker-> but there's no pulseaudio running for root
[14:03] <mic_> hi all
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Johndoe321: slacker , alsa should be already installed by default
[14:04] <Johndoe321> slacker: maybe the file u are trying to play has root permissions only?
[14:04] <slacker-> I've got alsa-base, alsa-utils
[14:04] <slacker-> Johndoe321: no. And the device permissions are right, too
[14:04] <slacker-> the user is in the audio group
[14:05] <BluesKaj> slacker-:  pulseaudio is usually installed if  apci audio card is detected.Not always but usually
[14:06] <Johndoe321> slacker: i'm at a loss of other solutions, maybe reinstall pulseaudio from src; that always works for me when audio fails to play
[14:06] <asus> raid question?
[14:07] <slacker-> BluesKaj: it's an onboard one
[14:07] <Dupper> Okay, well thanks all
[14:07] <anodesni> Hi, I removed all gnome-panels and added the xfce4-panel and xfapplets to add the gnome applets. The only thing missing is the menu. Is there a way to get the menu back?
[14:07] <rocket16> Hello all.
[14:07] <oCean_> asus: technical ubuntu issue? Did you find any response in #mysql and/or ##hardware?
[14:07] <asus> is RAID 5 is the best choice to run 2CPU server with 4 1TB hard drives for MySQL on Ubuntu 10.04 Server?
[14:08] <Johndoe321> !hi | rocket16
[14:08] <BluesKaj> alsa-base and alsa-utils is what's required to run alsa, pulseaudio isn't always helpful, mostly it's just another redudndant layer of audio processing unless one has a fancy surround pci DD pci card installed, the it might be useful.
[14:08] <jpds> asus: Well, it'll take a while to rebuild the array if one of the drives fails.
[14:08] <asus> oCean_: i did not find the answer there
[14:08] <slacker-> Johndoe321: did you mean from scratch or are you suggesting to compile my own?
[14:08] <rocket16> Johndoe321: Lol, I am already an old member here, :D Still thanks.
[14:08] <Johndoe321> slacker: compile on ur own
[14:08] <slacker-> aw..
[14:09] <jpds> asus: With drives that big, there's always the possibility that one will fail during the rebuild.
[14:09] <oCean_> asus: well, this is not the appropriate channel, since it's not an ubuntu specific issue. You have to read up on RAID performances
[14:09] <jpds> asus: I suggest RAID10, depending on how big your data set is.
[14:09] <asus> jpds: RAID10 is the best you think?
[14:10] <daniel2171> hi, i have linux 10.04 on my laptop and if i close the lid to put the laptop on hibernate then when i open the lid again the screen doesn't turn on. the laptop is on but the screen won't show anything
[14:10] <jpds> asus: That'll give you 2TB of space; how much do you need?
[14:10] <asus> 2TB is enough, I need super performance for read access for mysql
[14:10] <Johndoe321> daniel2171: see if alt+crt+f7 brings X11 back
[14:11] <Dupper> Hmmm, all the neat little OS effects work too
[14:11] <anodesni> Nobody knows?
[14:11] <daniel2171> it doesn't
[14:11] <jpds> asus: Well, RAID10 gives you high performance because data is striped and there is no parity overhead.
[14:12] <Johndoe321> anodesni: repeat ur question every few min, if someone know they should answer
[14:13] <asus> jpds: We are talking about software RAID 10? Because hardware built-in LSI MegaRaid did not work on Ubuntu install, it does not see hardware RAID set, i do not why
[14:13] <jpds> asus: Ah, well, I only use hardware RAID on HPs.
[14:14] <linxeh> asus: what vendor?
[14:14] <MaRk-I> anodesni: right-clicking the task bar, add to panel, main menu, add?
[14:14] <woalop> after a recent update, cannot print with my hp f380. get "/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed". any suggestion?
[14:14] <asus> Asus RS500-E6 server
[14:14] <asus> guys from Asus said they do not support Ubuntu
[14:14] <Misterio> woalop: What update?
[14:15] <linxeh> nobody supports ubuntu on servers
[14:15] <woalop> i mean upgrade.
[14:15] <jpds> linxeh: wut.
[14:15] <oCean_> linxeh: ?
[14:15] <slacker-> alright
[14:15] <bazhang> linxeh, that is not correct
[14:15] <woalop> Misterio: i meant upgrade.
[14:15] <linxeh> no vendors offer support for Ubuntu on their servers - none of the major ones anyway
[14:15] <linxeh> dell, hp, ibm etc
[14:15] <jpds> linxeh: Err, no.
[14:15] <jpds> linxeh: Have you ever seen http://webapps.ubuntu.com/certification/ ?
[14:16] <linxeh> jpds: that isnt the same thing
[14:16] <Misterio> woalop: Okay. Did you install that printer's driver from ubuntu's printers installer or from printer's official web?
[14:16] <slacker-> Johndoe321: I killed the pulseaudio process and when it restarted, it worked *sigh*
[14:16] <jpds> linxeh: Explain.
[14:16] <slacker-> I hate it when such random things happen
[14:16] <woalop> Misterio: from ubuntu's
[14:16] <Johndoe321> slacker: finally, resolution, glad to hear it worked 4 u
[14:17] <asus> so, only software RAID is suitable for me? And software RAID 10 gives nice performance for MySQL?
[14:17] <linxeh> jpds: try getting support from Dell or similar on any of those supported machines. they force you to boot Centos to run their openmanage software, as they only supply it as RPM
[14:17] <linxeh> jpds: then give you a lecture on why you should run suse or redhat
[14:17] <oCean_> asus: please stop asking in this channel
[14:17] <Dupper> Wow, got my old colors back... I missed these.
[14:17] <asus> oCean_ why I cannot post to #mysql?
[14:17] <oCean_> asus: you have to register
[14:18] <jpds> linxeh: Well,  http://webapps.ubuntu.com/certification/list/?release=10.04%20LTS&category=Server marks some Dell servers as "Ready" - which means that Dell has certified these themselves to run Ubuntu.
[14:18] <Johndoe321> offtopic at #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:18] <oCean_> !register > asus
[14:18] <Dupper> Okay, sorry bout this, testing something...
[14:18] <daniel2171> hi, i have linux 10.04 on my laptop and if i close the lid to put the laptop on hibernate then when i open the lid again the screen doesn't turn on. the laptop is on but the screen won't show anything
[14:18] <Dupper> Ahhck, still grey!
[14:18] <bazhang> asus, /join #freenode for help with registration
[14:18] <asus> thanks
[14:18] <ocatacoo> how do I remove ubuntu without messing up windows
[14:18] <NightKhaos> daniel2171: you have Ubuntu 10.04 on your laptop *
[14:19] <oCean_> Dupper: test in #test please?
[14:19] <hylian> got a strange problem, ubuntu gave me an error message, my ntfs drive wont mount. i checked, that drive works perfect. i used disk utility and it says "disk not clean", and when i try to mount it it says code 1: helper failed with:
[14:19] <hylian> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /
[14:19] <hylian> mount failed
[14:19] <daniel2171> NightKhaos: yea
[14:19] <linxeh> jpds: I don't doubt they have :) I've had hardware failures on many of the servers in that list and had to deal with the various support teams - it's painful
[14:19] <Johndoe321> ocatacoo: you can wipe the / in windows and keep the /boot with grub2
[14:19] <slacker-> thanks guys
[14:19] <Dupper> that should do it...
[14:19] <Dupper> Almost.
[14:19] <linxeh> jpds: still, it is better than it used to be at least
[14:19] <oCean_> Dupper: can you stop testing in this channel?
[14:20] <asanka> i installed ubuntu 10.4on my toshiba l655. it doesn't show the battery status
[14:20] <Dupper> NOW it should be fixed!
[14:20] <Dupper> Oh and it's not, oh well.
[14:21] <oCean_> Dupper: really, stop it
[14:21] <linxeh> Dupper: why not join another channel, like #mytestchannel
[14:21] <fan> hello
[14:21] <KnightStalker> linxeh,#mytestchannel has no users =(
[14:21] <Johndoe321> !hi | fan
[14:22] <hylian> code 1: helper failed with:
[14:22] <hylian> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /
[14:22] <hylian> mount failed how do i fix this? drive is 100% healthy, and os on that drive works..??
[14:22] <d3javu> eh, i would like to know how to play .ogv files on mplayer?
[14:22] <fan> here?
[14:22] <linxeh> KnightStalker: uh, that was the point
[14:22] <MaRk-I> asanka: go to system/preferences/power management/general tab / notification area
[14:22] <fan> hi
[14:22] <KnightStalker> linxeh,oh k :D
[14:22] <KnightStalker> Hi!
[14:22] <fan> where are you
[14:23] <bazhang> fan, did you have an ubuntu support question?
[14:23] <oCean_> fan: this is technical support channel. Join #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat
[14:23] <asanka> Mark-I i went to the general tab
[14:23] <fan> oh , not
[14:23] <Johndoe321> hylian: in terminal u can cd /mount to access hd, or sudo umount /media to remove shortcut to harddrive (hd)
[14:24] <MaRk-I> asanka: go to the next, check notification area
[14:24] <hylian> Johndoe321 I apreciate the info, but how will that help me?
[14:24] <fan> i don't know what's this
[14:24] <Johndoe321> hylian: i assumed u wanted to do one of the two, what did u wish to do?
[14:24] <daniel2171> hi, i have linux 10.04 on my laptop and if i close the lid to put the laptop on hibernate then when i open the lid again the screen doesn't turn on. the laptop is on but the screen won't show anything
[14:24] <hylian> johndoe321 actually it wont show "storage" or sdb1 in mount.
[14:25] <bazhang> fan, its Ubuntu support NOT chat; /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:25] <asanka> MaRk-I : i have tried many methods. no luck . I think the kernel does not ditect my battery
[14:25] <hylian> johndoe321 i want to fic this error: code 1: helper failed with:
[14:25] <hylian> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /
[14:25] <hylian> mount failed - basically my ntfs drive wont mount
[14:25] <ocatacoo> JohnDoe321: what are you saying?
[14:25] <fan> oh, i'll go , buy
[14:25] <Johndoe321> hylian: oh, install gparted and check the partition's health/status
[14:25] <MaRk-I> asanka: oh ok, hmm no idea
[14:25] <oCean_> daniel2171: there are several issues mentioned on launchpad regarding resume.
[14:26] <hylian> johndoe321 ahead of the game, checked healthy status. 2 os's both say 100% healthy
[14:26] <daniel2171> oCean_:how can i fix it?
[14:26] <Johndoe321> hylian: try mount -f (force)?
[14:26] <asanka> in /proc/acpi  it says that BAT1 Present : no
[14:26] <hylian> johndoe321 that does work, but when i reboot i am back to square one.
[14:27] <oCean_> daniel2171: what I mean is that it could be a bug (maybe even one they're currently working on, or already a patch provided) Search  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[14:27] <asanka> MaRk-I : in /proc/acpi  it says that BAT1 Present : no
[14:27] <Johndoe321> hylian: well, thats drained all suggestions, at least thats a temp workaround, maybe cron a script that forces mount?
[14:28] <ocatacoo> *JohnDoe321 , are you saying that if its installed in windows
[14:29] <hylian> johndoe321 thanx. i know this is ubuntu's error though. hmm. pclinuoxos 2010 is installed on that drive and boots with perfection. same drive. and has full access to the ntfs partition. cant figure it out.
[14:29] <Johndoe321> orcatacoo: no, even if its not, as long as you don't remove /boot with grub2, u can remove all other folders from windows with an ext2/3 reader
[14:29] <d3javu> heh, it is funny that i'm able to play .ogv files from command prompt mplayer but not mplayer-gui.
[14:30] <Esigolo> HI Guys I would like to know if is possible to setup two VGAs on Ubuntu Lucid?
[14:30] <ghost_> 有人吗
[14:31] <MaRk-I> ocatacoo: do you have your windows install disc?
[14:31] <ocatacoo> ok then how would you do that not from a normal login
[14:31] <ocatacoo> no
[14:31] <oCean_> !cn | ghost_
[14:31] <Johndoe321> MaRk-I: is there a website to show how to remove ubuntu from windows?
[14:33] <bergLNX> Hi, I was told to enable "lucid-proposed" repository, but I can't find it. I know where and how to add repositories...
[14:33] <oCean_> Johndoe321: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#Uninstallation
[14:33] <MaRk-I> Johndoe321: I dont have a link at the moment, but usually just do an fix mbr with the windows install disk to remove grub then just delete the partitions
[14:33] <oCean_> ow, wait
[14:33] <Johndoe321> oCean_: thanks
[14:34] <geirha> bergLNX: System -> Admin. -> Software Sources -> [Updates]
[14:34] <oCean_> Johndoe321: well, I'm not sure if I understood you. The link is for removing Wubi (the ubuntu installer on windows)
[14:34] <Esigolo> HI Guys I would like to know if is possible to setup two VGAs on Ubuntu Lucid? or configut it to just ignore the second VGA?
[14:35] <Johndoe321> oCean_: no, they need to remove a reg. install of ubuntu, so i think they have to get an ext2/3 reader/writer for windows and wipe all linux directories except /boot with grub2
[14:36] <MaRk-I> Johndoe321: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/9921-uninstalling-linux.html
[14:37] <hylian> johndoe321 i fixed it with my pclinuox2010 install. i became root, and unmounted that drive in pclinuxos, then rebooted into ubuntu and whalla. figure that one out. pclinuos never had problem one using that drive a real head scratcher
[14:37] <bergLNX> Hi, I was told to enable "lucid-proposed" repository, but I can't find it. I know where and how to add repositories...
[14:37] <bazhang> bergLNX, check in software sources
[14:38] <bazhang> system administration software sources
[14:38] <rocket16> I have an old laptop of 512 MB RAM, and Core 2 Duo processor. I have made Ubuntu as fast as possible, by tweaking and sacrificing visual impression. But, can anyone give me some reading resources, in which Ubuntu is shown to be customized to be running nicely on Laptop.
[14:39] <bergLNX> bazhang: Yeah there's where I'm standing, but nothing with "proposed" here... hmm...
[14:39] <bazhang> bergLNX, let me check
[14:39] <Gerwin> rocket16: You could try the netbook remix
[14:39] <bazhang> rocket16, with gnome?
[14:39] <hylian> i read that you want to stay away from that depository, starnge
[14:39] <bazhang> try something like openbox, blackbox, flux, or lxde
[14:39] <coz_> bazhang,  yes with gnome... or the kde netbook version  which is even nicer
[14:40] <rocket16> bazhang: Yes, I customized GNOME though, by using PcmanFm and OpenBox.
[14:40] <Esigolo> rocket16, i'm using the Netbook remix but usualy it takes 600 MB from ram after the clear setup
[14:40] <hylian> berglnx maybe this will help? lp:ubuntu/lucid-proposed/tomcat6
[14:40] <rocket16> Gerwin: Netbook edition? But mine is a Notebook, Compaq 6710s. Hence, will that be perfect?
[14:40] <Esigolo> clean*
[14:40] <bazhang> bergLNX, in the updates tab
[14:41] <rocket16> Esigolo: I heard similar things, and hence I use the default Ubuntu, after much tweaking, it takes around 200 MB RAM at maximum, while running certain applications.
[14:41] <bergLNX> bazhang: aaaah, my bad :p many thanks :)
[14:41] <bazhang> bergLNX, and other software as well
[14:41] <rocket16> Friends, I got a small site, http://www.ubuntulaptop.net/ which might prove useful.
[14:42] <Johndoe321> rocker16: if you need more ram u can create swap on a flash drive for fast swap
[14:42] <Esigolo> rocket16, i'm going to take a look about it
[14:43] <rocket16> Esigolo: Sure, :) I am checking it too, :)
[14:43] <hylian> berglnx sorry man. cant find it. but it's mentioned in a bunch of ubuntu forums
[14:44] <hylian> Johndoe321 going to another os, unmounting it as su and then rebooting in ubuntu fixed my error
[14:44] <bergLNX> hylian: No problem, found it :) Updated Gwibbler, but still not working though :(
[14:47] <vikas> unlock login keyring what is this
[14:48] <Esigolo> Guys is possible to configure the Xorg or something to make Ubuntu just Ignore my second Grafic card?
[14:49] <hylian> Esigolo it may be, but is is possible to deactivate the card in your cmos/bios?
[14:50] <Esigolo> hylian, In fact i'm using the second on windows to put the Physx to work so I can't deactvate it :(
[14:51] <hylian> Esigolo ohh, hmm. let me see if i can dig something up
[14:51] <piklu> hello
[14:51] <askhader> hi
[14:51] <piklu> Guys my server hangs sometimes, I wanna look on errors, where is the error log
[14:52] <Esigolo> hylian, thanks man
[14:52] <askhader> /var/log
[14:53] <Dupper> Hi!  Does ubuntu have an equivalent of the windows addredss bar?
[14:53] <hylian> Esigolo is that second card a built in card, a nvidia, a amd, intel, sis?
[14:53] <Dupper> Like, where I can just type in the path and even maybe file and get to it instead of folder shuffling?  That seems like a very ubuntu-ish feature
[14:53] <Esigolo> hylian, The first one is an ATI card and the second is an Nvidia
[14:53] <hylian> and you want to disable the ait, or nvidia?
[14:54] <Esigolo> Nvidia
[14:54] <bullgard> [GNOME, Ubuntu 10.04] What is the filename of my Login screen image?  (http://imagebin.org/104771)?
[14:54] <hylian> Esigolo sudo nvidia-glx-config disable might work.
[14:54] <piklu> which file in /var/log has system and kernel loggings?
[14:54] <askhader> first dmesg
[14:54] <askhader> piklu: dmesg | grep
[14:54] <askhader> sorry
[14:54] <Esigolo> hylian,  let me try
[14:54] <askhader> dmesg | less
[14:55] <piklu> dmesg provides hardware information
[14:55] <askhader> It also refers to kernel panics.
[14:55] <ranjan> abhi_nav, hi abhi :)
[14:55] <abhi_nav> ranjan, pm
[14:55] <Esigolo> hylian, sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found
[14:55] <piklu> that gives a lot of info......which particular word for kernel information
[14:56] <hylian> Esigolo i was afraid of that. either that command is ancient, or the nvidia driver was never installed, im assuming the first option.
[14:57] <hylian> Esigolo did you install both drivers?
[14:57] <Esigolo> hylian, the Nvidia driver is not installed because when i Install it the ATI  driver  goes crazt
[14:57] <Esigolo> crazy
[14:58] <Esigolo> hylian, i have to install the Nvidia or Ati driver First?
[14:58] <hylian> Esigolo, considring that amd/ati has little or no support for any linux based distro, i kinda undertsand that. just switched to nvidia for that reason
[14:58] <daniel2171> hi, i have linux 10.04 on my laptop and if i close the lid to put the laptop on hibernate then when i open the lid again the screen doesn't turn on. the laptop is on but the screen won't show anything i've searched for the bug on launchpad but theres nothing for my laptop (hp dv5 amd 64)
[14:59] <hylian> Esigolo what disadvantage would you have to using your nvidia card instead of your ati? is there  a big performance difference?
[14:59] <geirha> daniel2171: Does it work correctly if you choose hibernate from the menu (and not close the lid)?
[15:00] <Esigolo> hylian,  Iwas afraid of that because the ATI drivers is an HD5870 and the Nvidia is an 9600GT its a huge diference
[15:00] <daniel2171> geirha: Yea the problem is in closing it
[15:01] <hylian> Esigolo well. hmm. i would think that you would need both drivers installed, and then wuold need to have ubuntu not use the nvidia. but im not an expert. one other possibility is, pclinuxos 2010 or 2009 (2009 if it is an older ati card). pclinuxos is not my favorite os, but has special support for ati, way more than ubuntu
[15:01] <Dupper> I have an ATI 9600XT and this ubuntu advanced theme is running flawlessly
[15:01] <Dupper> Most impressive!
[15:01] <miked595> What is currently the best support video card for linux?
[15:01] <geirha> daniel2171: Had the same thing on my laptop. I eventually figured out it was the driver for the intel graphics card. (with the latest kernel though, X won't start at all, just completely freeze the system)
[15:02] <daniel2171> i have an ati video card
[15:03] <geirha> daniel2171: I'm using the vesa driver as a workaround.
[15:03] <daniel2171> geirha: Could i do that?
[15:03] <Esigolo> hylian, ok i'm going to take a look about it thank you man xD
[15:03] <ubuntu> hello all
[15:03] <hylian> Esigolo, dot know how much help i have been, but, hope it works out for you
[15:03] <geirha> daniel2171: Doesn't hurt to try. Do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[15:04] <fatbrain> Hi, how do I remove desktop-environment? I installed desktop, and I want to "convert" it into a ubuntu-server.
[15:04] <daniel2171> geirha: i don't know how can i check?
[15:04] <ubuntu> Is it possible to update usb mode ubuntu?
[15:04] <Gerwin> fatbrain: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[15:04] <geirha> daniel2171: Open a terminal and type
[15:04] <hylian> fatbrain you want to remove x? or just have a real simple desktop environment?
[15:04] <ubuntu> I am now using ubuntu 10.07 LTS with a usb stick
[15:05] <geirha> daniel2171: ''ls /etc/X11/''
[15:05] <fatbrain> Gerwin: I did that, but it took about 1 sec to run and all my desktop apps seems to still be installed :S
[15:05] <ubuntu> Oops 10.04
[15:05] <bazhang> ubuntu, is it persistent?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> Esigolo:  have you tried the the ATI catalyst 10.1
[15:06] <ubuntu> persistent...? I am not sure
[15:06] <Fudge> anyone aware of any webmin module or just commands to lower fan speed for servers?
[15:06] <daniel2171> geirha: ok i did that
[15:06] <ubuntu> How do you define "persistent"?
[15:06] <geirha> daniel2171: Do you see xorg.conf in the list?
[15:06] <bazhang> ubuntu, able to save changes
[15:06] <Esigolo> BluesKaj, yes but When i try to aactivate the 3d option it call the Nvidia driver :(
[15:06] <hylian> ubuntu i think he means is it still there and does it boot every time you reboot.
[15:06] <ubuntu> bazhang, yes, then it is persistent
[15:06] <daniel2171> geirha: no
[15:06] <ubuntu> my usb stick is 4GB
[15:07] <Esigolo> BluesKaj, the Gnome 3d options I mean
[15:07] <ubuntu> I am at a cyber-cafe
[15:07] <bazhang> ubuntu, if the flash drive is big enough and it is persistent, then sure
[15:07] <miked595> my stick is bigger then yours
[15:07] <geirha> daniel2171: But there is an xorg.conf.failsafe, right?
[15:07] <bazhang> miked595, that commentary is not welcome here
[15:07] <hylian> ubuntu how does it handle hardware changes? different computer, different hardware, especially gfx differences?
[15:07] <BluesKaj> Esigolo:  is the  ATI  HD5870  a pci card ?
[15:08] <ubuntu> I suppose that you understand what mode I am running on, right?
[15:08] <hylian> init 3? LOL
[15:08] <miked595> bazhang: it's 16GB, I dont understand why not?
[15:08] <ubuntu> just click try ubuntu while booting,
[15:08] <Esigolo> I have both one ATI5870 and one Nvidia 9600Gt installed
[15:08] <daniel2171> geirha: no
[15:08] <Esigolo> BluesKaj, yes it is
[15:08] <hylian> ubuntu thats cool man, ima gonna do that.
[15:08] <ubuntu> I just clicked "try ubuntu"....
[15:09] <ubuntu> while I was booting, I click F12 first to got into a BIOS menu so that I can boot from my USB stick
[15:09] <geirha> daniel2171: Hm. Odd. Mine does.
[15:09] <bazhang> ubuntu, that sounds like it is not persistent, but a live usb
[15:09] <cyberfux> hi all
[15:09] <ubuntu> yes, a Live USB
[15:10] <daniel2171> geirha: theres nothing that says xorg
[15:10] <ubuntu> that's what I was asking
[15:10] <bazhang> !usb | ubuntu please read this to check
[15:10] <ubuntu> By the way, how did you make a persistent USB ubuntu????
[15:10] <bazhang> ubuntu, the last link there
[15:11] <BluesKaj> Esigolo, I'm not sure if this will work, but one can disable the onboard card in the BIOS and make the pci card the default. there might be another way to do it. If someone has a different method , pls tell us.
[15:11] <daniel2171> geirha:what should it say?
[15:11] <cyberfux> anyone with good knowledge of v4l there?
[15:12] <ubuntu> thanks bazhang
[15:12] <bazhang> ubuntu, you are welcome
[15:12] <solar_sea> Hey, I've just installed 10.04, then switched to lubuntu-desktop. However with almost nothing running - Mem:   1797288k total,   990288k used,   807000k free,     5228k buffers
[15:12] <Esigolo> BluesKaj, the borh are offboard cards
[15:12] <solar_sea> What is happening, is there a hidden memory hog in ubuntu ?!
[15:12] <hylian> cyberfux you talking about video 4 linux and linuxTv?
[15:12] <bazhang> solar_sea, what does top in terminal show
[15:12] <bullgard> How can I import Bookmarks from Firefox to Epiphany?
[15:12] <ocatacoo> how do I remove ubuntu without messing up windows?
[15:12] <bazhang> solar_sea, open a terminal and type   top
[15:12] <solar_sea> bazhang, that's from top, the memory line
[15:13] <Ayakai> hey ppl
[15:13] <BluesKaj> Esigolo, then you need to make a choice , i think removing the one you don't use is a safe bet. Also remove the nvidia driver .
[15:13] <solar_sea> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/tWKL3J8J - here
[15:13] <bazhang> solar_sea, any processes consuming a large amount?
[15:14] <bazhang> solar_sea, looking
[15:14] <hylian> BluesKaj he uses the nvidia for windows, dual booter.
[15:14] <arnetlink> connect dalnet
[15:14] <bazhang> solar_sea, chromium perhaps? lots of flash tabs open etc?
[15:14] <solar_sea> nah, just opened it so I can post this to pastebin
[15:15] <cyberfux> hylian just video4linux, it's my effin webcam - totally laggy and timeshifted while taking a vid
[15:15] <BluesKaj> hylian, but why /
[15:15] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:15] <solar_sea> weird as it is, kde only with all options turned down - went to 1.7 and almost hit swap
[15:15] <bullgard> ocatacoo: You can do that in varying degree. Define precisely what you mean by "messing up".
[15:15] <solar_sea> lxde is around 1gb
[15:15] <Dupper> I am not coming close to swap
[15:15] <solar_sea> I'm using an atom dualcore cpu, with nvidia ion chipset
[15:15] <daniel2171> Can anybody help me fix the system resume problem on my hp dv5 laptop?
[15:15] <hylian> BluesKaj i just though i would tell you why he has two. i tried to help him to no avail. just thought the info would help
[15:15] <BluesKaj> Esigolo, why use 2 cards for different OSs ?
[15:15] <miked595> What is currently the best supported video card for linux? I don't want to get the biggest and baddest only to find most of the features don't work.
[15:15] <ocatacoo> I want to return a rental laptop
[15:16] <cyberfux> miked595 tried nvidia geforce? never had problems
[15:16] <ocatacoo> so I want to remove ubuntu
[15:16] <Dupper> Got the fancy interface up and only using 40% of my memory... rock on!
[15:16] <Esigolo> BluesKaj, in fact i just have two grafic cards to use the Physx on windows 7
[15:16] <Dupper> I meant... CPU
[15:16] <solar_sea> Dupper, then there is something wrong with mine system ot ubuntu's support of it :)
[15:16] <bullgard> miked595: Define what you mean by "best supported".
[15:16] <Dupper> Hey guys can someone explain to me what 'load' is?
[15:16] <hylian> cyberfux i can't say i am a expert. as a matter of fact i never used it. i actually looked ito it because i was gonna make a tivo out of a old intel box i have lying around. linuxtv was what i was referring to.
[15:17] <ocatacoo> bullgard: you need alot of definition but offer no answer?
[15:17] <Esigolo> BluesKaj, i'm using dualboot because i was not able to convince my sisters to use linux yet
[15:17] <Dupper> wait I guess Ic ould google that
[15:17] <BluesKaj> Esigolo, I use one nvidia card for both W7 and kubuntu...it's an older model 7600gt but it works well
[15:18] <bullgard> Dupper: "load" means different things in different areas. In CPU usage it often means the percentage of time a CPU is used under defined conditions.
[15:18] <BluesKaj> Dualbooting doesn't mean you need separate cards for each OS, Esigolo
[15:18] <bullgard> oCatacoo: I do not need. May be you need something.
[15:19] <hylian> cyberfux so you are trying to find out why your webcam is acting up. im assuming your seeing this problem live and not via the internet, because net conditions can really mess things up
[15:19] <Esigolo> BluesKaj, my primary VGa is the ATI but the Nvidia deal with game Physx so the ATI render the image and the Nvidia make the Physx effect work
[15:19] <oCatacoo> bullgard: you sk for alot of definition but offer no answer?
[15:19] <antuan> привет вам, люди
[15:20] <bazhang> !ru | antuan
[15:20] <rocket16> For managing photos, which is faster, FSpot or Shotwell? Also, for GNOME, is there any other light-weight but decent photo manager?
[15:20] <bullgard> !ru | antuan
[15:20] <miked595> cyberfux: bullgard: I have the GeForce 7600 GS now.. it's a little long in the tooth but I can't use the purevideo in it still. I now newer cards have a unix api but other features like SLI i heard are not supported. So looking to avoid unsupported feature and get the best performance
[15:21] <scriptwarlock> howdy
[15:21] <oCatacoo> so is this not the ubuntu support channel?
[15:21] <scriptwarlock> any news about the splash reso?
[15:21] <scriptwarlock> in lucid
[15:21] <Ayakai> I am looking for a video editor for ubuntu
[15:21] <cyberfux> hylian yes it's live totally laggy w8 i upload a vid so u can c
[15:22] <LjL> Ayakai: cinelerra, avidemux, stopmotion, blender, lives, openmovieeditor, jahshaka  —  GNOME: pitivi, kino  —  KDE: kdenlive  —  console: gopchop, avidemux-cli
[15:22] <Esigolo> BluesKaj, i'm going to remove the Nvidia from the computer
[15:22] <bullgard> miked595: I do not know the solution to your problem.
[15:23] <hylian> cyberfux i dont need a video. ill take your word for it. hmm. assuming you have the latest drivers for your card (you said it was a bit old) is there a chance that another card is causing some problems? (like a buitl in sis or intel)
[15:23] <BluesKaj> Esigolo, well then you have problem alright , i know there's a command for disabling hardware in ubuntu , and I wish someone would come forward and tell us.
[15:23] <grml> hi, i am trying to install 10.4 on my notebook. i use the alternate-cd. but i get a blackscreen with any options i tryed.
[15:23] <ddavids> hi all
[15:23] <grml> any ideas?
[15:24] <scriptwarlock> wait for the lightworks video editor
[15:24] <scriptwarlock> Ayakai, wait for the lightworks video editor
[15:25] <cyberfux> hylian well it's recognized otb and all i could see there is no newer driver, also the ASUS K50IJ was shipped with 10.04 and eery component is fully linux compatible. i THINK it's some weird settings prob, but video is not my world
[15:25] <ddavids> my music players - rhythmbox and banshee are crasshing upon opening...
[15:25] <Ghebbo_Hck> hi all :-)
[15:25] <Esigolo> BluesKaj, for now just remove it will solve the problem but I will keep looking for another solution and when I find it i will let you know thaks man
[15:25] <hylian> Esigolo, just out of curiosity, after installing the nvidia driver, did you try that old nvidia disabling command? that might have come with the nvidia driver
[15:25] <mr_lou> I've searched and searched for codecs that lets me play 3gp files (video recordings from mobile phones) on my Ubuntu machine, without luck. It'll only play the video part. Not the sound. Can anyone help?
[15:26] <mathmoi_> Hi
[15:26] <cyberfux> mr_lou have you installed the non_free_codecs from medibuntu.org ?
[15:26] <ddavids> only vlc functions properly
[15:26] <mathmoi_> What if 'kill -9 1234' does not work?
[15:26] <Esigolo> hylian, true i did not let me try
[15:26] <cyberfux> hylian see http://n3rd.ws/1.ogv that says it better then words
[15:27] <rystraum> mathmoi_: kill -9 as root?
[15:27] <mr_lou> cybastl, Most probably not, although I do remember vaguely that I've set medibuntu.org somewhere......
[15:27] <hylian> cyberfux sadly it's not mine either. i would think if your card is 100% compatable it has to eb a software setting or ubuntu glitch. hmm. can you download the pclinuxos 2010 distro? im mwondering if you have the same glitch with that. pclinuxos has some drivers ubuntu hasnt. 2010 for newer cards, 2009 for older.
[15:27] <ddavids> i have a problem with rhythmbox, it crashes upon opening
[15:28] <rystraum> mathmoi_: If kill -9 as root does not kill the process then I think reset is the only way to clear the process out.
[15:28] <cyberfux> hylian i could try that but i'm really more a "ubuntu"-geek ;-) also the prob is in OpenSuSE, RedHat, Fedora etc. it LOOKS like settings
[15:28] <mathmoi_> rystraum: Yes, I used sudo.
[15:28] <ubuntu> guys guys....... may I know, how to download Youtube videos?
[15:28] <mathmoi_> rystraum: reset as in reboot the machine?
[15:28] <hylian> cyberfux if nothing else if you did or did not have a problem with that, it wouls atleast give you some diagnostic direction
[15:28] <rystraum> mathmoi_: I believe so.
[15:29] <classical> hey ppl :-)
[15:29] <cyberfux> ubuntu the easiest way is to install jdownloader and insert the link, jdownloader also converts it to mp4 or mp3
[15:29] <ubuntu> but I am using live usb
[15:29] <rystraum> ubuntu: or you can check out /tmp/ after you've finished buffering the video. You can find it there.
[15:29] <wygrzmot> hi all
[15:29] <yfk> I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-video-intel but nothing happends. why is this?
[15:29] <classical> i have got a problem plz someone help me :(((
[15:29] <ubuntu> how do I go to /tep.?
[15:29] <cyberfux> whats your prob classical
[15:30] <hylian> cyberfux ubuntu, for it's few problems, is still way better than pclinuxos. i agree. it's just that 2009 uses older fglrx and nvidia drivers for older cards and 2010 has some specially built drivers as well. good for troubleshooting
[15:30] <cyberfux> ubuntu open the terminal type cd /tmp/
[15:30] <rystraum> ubuntu: Open the file manager and then go to /tmp/
[15:30] <classical> cyberfux, hey :-) i have install xubuntu with alternate cd
[15:30] <wygrzmot> this wideo i very good
[15:30] <classical> I just add
[15:30] <cyberfux> classical so what's the prob?
[15:30] <classical> to panel
[15:31] <classical> Keyboard layouts
[15:31] <ubuntu> ah....... I am just a home user, I am not pro in terminal
[15:31] <classical> and layout shortcut
[15:31] <bullgard> How can I import Bookmarks from Firefox to Epiphany?
[15:31] <classical> alt +shift
[15:31] <ubuntu> any graphic mode stuff?
[15:31] <classical> to change between eng an ge
[15:31] <classical> but when i reboot a pc
[15:31] <ubuntu> GUI ?
[15:31] <boy> hello
[15:32] <mr_lou> How do I find out which version of Ubuntu I'm currently using? Apparently there's no version command.
[15:32] <Esigolo> hylian, BluesKaj  i'm going to reboot and see if it works be back soon
[15:32] <boy> is anyone there
[15:32] <classical> there is not a shortcut i
[15:32] <rystraum> ubuntu: Open the File Manager (or otherwise known as Nautilus) and go to /tmp/
[15:32] <cyberfux> ubuntu if you want a gui use jdownloader it's the easiest way
[15:32] <boy> how to use the fdisk
[15:32] <bazhang> !version | mr_lou
[15:32] <ubuntu> Nautilus, yes
[15:32] <bullgard> !boy | ask
[15:32] <Guest11282> than you
[15:32] <mr_lou> Thanks bazhang
[15:32] <bullgard> !ask | boy
[15:33] <ubuntu> I am in Nautilus, but what do I do next?
[15:33] <Guest11282> it is all English ,I cant~~~~ok,i will go
[15:33] <classical> cyberfux, why this is happening ? :((
[15:33] <Guest11282> 有中国人没有？
[15:33] <rystraum> ubuntu: press ctrl + L, then type /tmp/
[15:33] <cyberfux> classical why is what happening?
[15:34] <maxvaillancourt1> hello
[15:34] <classical> it does not save changes
[15:34] <classical> after reboot
[15:34] <classical> :((
[15:34] <ddavids> my rhythmbox crashes upon starting it...
[15:34] <rystraum> The video won't show up there if it's not open in any browser though.
[15:34] <ubuntu> yes, now I am in /tmp/
[15:34] <ubuntu> what next?
[15:34] <hylian> classical in the emortal words of cyberfux "what does not save changes?"
[15:34] <cyberfux> classical where r u from?
[15:34] <maxvaillancourt1> can someone see my messages? idk if I set up IRC correctly
[15:35] <yfk> I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-video-intel but nothing happends. why is this?
[15:35] <mr_lou> cyberfux, Thanks. There were 2 AMR codecs there, installed now, but apparently not the ones needed.
[15:35] <cyberfux> hylian isn't that phrase correctly "In the immortal words of Khan Noonien Singh 'He tasks me....'"
[15:35] <hylian> maxvaillancourt1 i can see your message
[15:35] <hdpb> i remember seeing a way to use the install function of the livecd to repair grub without command line.  does anyone know off-hand?
[15:35] <maxvaillancourt1> alright, thank you very much hylian!
[15:35] <mr_lou> ....unless a reboot is needed.... hmm....
[15:35]  * mr_lou reboots
[15:35] <zip247> @maxvaillancourt1 we see them
[15:35] <rystraum> ubuntu: It should be there. Though it would have some random filename.
[15:35] <cyberfux> mr_lou funny i have no problems with 3gp neither in mplayer/totem nor in vlc just installed the nonfree from medibuntu do u use 32 or 64 bit?
[15:35] <classical> cyberfux, im from Georgia
[15:35] <maxvaillancourt1> thanks zip247 :D
[15:35] <zip247> np
[15:36] <linuxthefish> lll
[15:36] <cyberfux> classical to bad i hoped from germany then i could give u native advise ;-) but first thing: tell us detailed what your problem is
[15:36] <ubuntu> ah... another question first, will the usb-installed ubuntu work in any PC? since if it was not Live USB mode? because if we install Ubuntu directly to USB by PC A, will it work on PC B, C, D?
[15:37] <rystraum> ubuntu: yep.
[15:37] <ubuntu> rystraum, are you sure about that?
[15:37] <rystraum> ubuntu: Yep. Have done it so many times.
[15:37] <ddavids> ubuntu: positive
[15:37] <ubuntu> rystraum, are you sure about that? if yes, then I am gonna install it when I back home
[15:37] <spiky> ubuntu: only if the pc can boot from usb
[15:37] <cyberfux> ubuntu u can trust rystraum it will work - it's not windows that needs a reinstall after you changed the cpu
[15:38] <ubuntu> since I am still using Live Mode in a cyber-cafe
[15:38] <hylian> rystraum what happens when you come to a machine for which you do not have the drivers for the harware, lie ati and nvidia drivers?
[15:38] <rystraum> ubuntu: Well, take into consideration the BIOS settings first. As long as it can boot via USB, it should be fine.
[15:38] <ubuntu> rystraum, then we don't need Live mode anymore, am I correct?
[15:38] <ddavids> anyone have any ideas why my rhythmbox keeps crasshing anytime i start it?
[15:38] <rystraum> hylian: It usually defaults to some generic video driver (that looks bad but should be enough to get you started)
[15:39] <ubuntu> rystraum, since Live mode is hard to update
[15:39] <hylian> rystraum thanx man, cool beans
[15:39] <azlon> is there a program that will find all of my movies on my HDD and export them to a spreadsheet or something?
[15:39] <rystraum> ddavids: Can you post your /var/log/messages/ to some pastebin and post it back here?
[15:39] <bobbboberson> Hey, using ubuntu10.04 on a desktop, any suggestions on a wireless card?
[15:39] <ddavids> ubuntu: 0but pls dont innstall it on the PC at the cafe..tht may be illegal
[15:39] <DarkStar1> Hi. Can someone help me set up my printer so that it can be seen over the local network. I'm using a HP printer
[15:39] <MajorAstr> how do I change the close and minimize window back to the right
[15:39] <hylian> does anyone know if esigolo's problem was solved?
[15:39] <ubuntu> ddavids, what do you mean?
[15:40] <rystraum> MajorAstr: It's theme dependent. Just change your theme.
[15:40] <cyberfux> bobboberson Draft-N or still "old" wifi
[15:40] <scriptwarlock> anybody figure out how did this happen during boot?  ...  hda-intel: spurious response
[15:40] <MajorAstr> ok thanks
[15:40] <ddavids> rystraum: i
[15:40] <ddavids> i'll do that
[15:40] <ddavids> rystraum: i'll do that
[15:40] <rystraum> bobbboberson: I use a TP-link Wireless USB Dongle and it works out of the box.
[15:40] <classical> Okay cyberfux I have just add Keyboard layout (Ge/Georgian)  from Application > settings > keyboard setting but there is not a layout shortcut, than i added it to panel and set a layout shortcut but when i reboot this shortcut is not set
[15:40] <classical> http://goodies.xfce.org/_media/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.3-settings.png?w=&h=&cache=cache
[15:41] <ubuntu> ddavids, why would I want to install Ubuntu into Cyber-Cafe's PC? they use Windows XP and I wouldn't change their OS without their approve.
[15:41] <classical> cyberfux, And i have to add it again and again :((
[15:41] <cyberfux> rystraum but not every tp-link will work otb,the TL-WN422G for example needs to get ndiswrapped
[15:41] <Plasmastar> Why can't I connect things like my SSHD remotely?
[15:41] <Plasmastar> connect to*
[15:41] <sharplinux> Plasmastar: what errors are you getting?
[15:42] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster, whats the response?
[15:42] <cyberfux> classical mhm.... have u tried googling cuz i think i remember there once was a bug
[15:42] <hylian> classical can you call what your trying to do via command?
[15:42] <bobbboberson> cyberfux: good question and something to check.  I just moved in here.  rystraum:  thanks
[15:42] <ubuntu> even though in Live mode, every update attempt will appear "Failed to install package", but it works eventually! Did you guys know about that??
[15:42] <rystraum> cyberfux: But I use the TL-WN422G.
[15:42] <Plasmastar> None.
[15:42] <Plasmastar> I just can't connect.
[15:42] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: whats the response of ssh?
[15:42] <cyberfux> bobboberson / rystraum what always works are cards with the old Realtek RT8187 chipset but they are not draft-n
[15:43] <ubuntu> even though in Live mode, every update attempt will appear "Failed to install package", but it works eventually! Did you guys know about that??
[15:43] <cyberfux> rystraum otb? the one with the external 4dbi antenna?
[15:43] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: there should be complains from ssh
[15:43] <sharplinux> Plasmastar: you can do 'ssh -vv [host]' which will give you info about *why*
[15:43] <rystraum> ubuntu: But you lose the update anyway once you reboot.
[15:43] <ubuntu> Weird, isn't it?
[15:43] <bazhang> ubuntu, yes, its not persistent, so a reboot will set it back to default live
[15:43] <ubuntu> Rystraum, really? I haven't try
[15:44] <rystraum> cyberfux: Yep. And I'm using 9.10 (haven't gone to 10.04 because I'm working on a project and I don't have the time to deal with a broken system currently)
[15:44] <Plasmastar> sharplinux: It just sits at "Connecting to"
[15:44] <classical> cyberfux, i have xubuntu 10.04 hylian via command ? i did not get you :((
[15:44] <sharplinux> Plasmastar: (-v means "verbose" and -vv means "really verbose")
[15:44] <classical> what about reseting a Xfce ?
[15:44] <cyberfux> ok! it works otb till 9.10 but since 10.04 it don't - no clue why
[15:44] <ubuntu> Did you guys use real USB-Ubuntu well right now?
[15:45] <sharplinux> Plasmastar: ok, how are you connecting... via a bash shell or some kind of SSH client (like PuTTY)?
[15:45] <Plasmastar> bash shell
[15:45] <cyberfux> last one was to rystraum sry
[15:45] <Plasmastar> And I was connecting remotely just fine last night.
[15:45] <Plasmastar> Before a reboot and such.
[15:45] <rystraum> ubuntu: I usually use Ubuntu on USB just for installing since I install it on my workstations.
[15:45] <cyberfux> rystraum ok! it works otb till 9.10 but since 10.04 it don't - no clue why (forgotten to add your name)
[15:45] <sharplinux> Plasmastar: has anything changed?  any software updates, anything?
[15:45] <hylian> classical this should help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=798555 it is a bug in ubuntu. follow these steps (close to bottom of the page) and you will have this fixed
[15:45] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: yah try what they suggest it would display something like this: OpenSSH_5.3p1 Debian-3ubuntu4, OpenSSL 0.9.8k 25 Mar 2009
[15:45] <scriptwarlock> debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[15:45] <scriptwarlock> debug1: Applying options for *
[15:45] <scriptwarlock> debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0
[15:45] <scriptwarlock> debug1: Connecting to localhost [::1] port 22.
[15:45] <FloodBot3> scriptwarlock: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:46] <scriptwarlock> debug1: connect to address ::1 port 22: Connection refused
[15:46] <Plasmastar> I haven't updated anything I know of that would change anything.
[15:46] <sharplinux> Plasmastar: scriptwarlock is right - this is what the -vv flag should output
[15:46] <ubuntu> rystraum, nope, that's not what I mean
[15:46] <Plasmastar> I noticed. It just sits at "Connecting to"
[15:46] <Plasmastar> I can connect locally fine, but not remotely.
[15:47] <rystraum> cyberfux: Well, good thing you pointed it out. I guess I should stay with 9.10 for the meantime until I have the time to deal with it.
[15:47] <ubuntu> rystraum, nope, that's not what I mean, I mean running Ubuntu on USB-pendriver
[15:47] <BluesKaj> hylian, i have to leave for a few mins , If Esigolo manages to boot back in try to help him if he needs it ..I should be back in 10 mins
[15:47] <hylian> BlueKaj ill try
[15:47] <ubuntu> not use USB pen driver as a source to install onto other PCs
[15:47] <DarkStar1> Hello all.. I've shared my printer via the printing configuration menu but still can't pick it up in win 7.  It worked fine last night and I haven't changed the router.
[15:49] <rystraum> cyberfux: You dropped the f-- bomb.
[15:49] <cyberfux> rystraum it's a friggin word!
[15:49] <ubuntu> How do I expose?
[15:49] <bazhang> cyberfux, just keep it family friendly. lets move on
[15:49] <Plasmastar> scriptwarlock: I installed yesterday, but I had it going at one point. lol
[15:49] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: hehehe
[15:49] <cyberfux> hylian must be ;-) i feel like getting worse since 8.04
[15:49] <cyberfux> bazhang ok ok
[15:50] <sharplinux> Plasmastar: to be clear, you're somewhere outside your local network trying to SSH in?
[15:50] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: have you tried restarting ssh?
[15:50] <Plasmastar> Could I have installed/activated some kind of firewall?
[15:50] <Plasmastar> sharplinux: Yes.
[15:50]  * sharplinux is wondering how that works
[15:50] <DarkStar1> cyberfux: does this mean I need to install SAMBA to be able to share?? I see nothing in ubuntu about workgroups
[15:50] <hylian> cyberfux i actually agree with you on that, my ati x1300 worked great untill 8.10. then my driver was "no longer supported" i had to use pclinuxos for years
[15:50] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: do you mean you havent forwarded the port yet?
[15:50] <Plasmastar> Not to mention, other server apps don't work either.
[15:51] <Plasmastar> scriptwarlock: I haven't seen a need to here.
[15:51] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: why not if you want to ssh outside
[15:51] <Shogoot> ubuntu 10.4 and sound is failing.  I'm trying to share my printer but Win 7 doesn't pick it up over the local network
[15:54] <ubuntu> yup I know. I just can't stand to stay here ..... I am here just for downloading a movie
[15:54] <Shogoot> ubuntu 10.4 and sound is failing. Any testing i can do? any tip?
[15:54] <sharplinux> Plasmastar: I mean the remote machine...
[15:54] <D4m14n> vishal: i have problems with a lots of files... how can i do to save automatic in utf8?
[15:54] <ubuntu> others are playing stupid games.....
[15:54] <D4m14n> i mean change my config
[15:54] <Plasmastar> sharplinux: I'm on the machine that I want to attempt to connect to, and can't connect to remotely from the one across the room.
[15:54] <rystraum> Shogoot: By failing, you mean it dies down sometime or it just doesn't work?
[15:54] <DarkStar1> Anybody??
[15:55] <Shogoot> rystraum, oh... it dosnt play any sound
[15:55] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: hmm can you do the vnc thing on that? by enabling remote desktop
[15:55] <ubuntu> sad. 1 hour 22 minutes to go
[15:55] <Shogoot> and it not muted and the headphones are ok
[15:55] <sharplinux> Plasmastar: can you ping it?
[15:55] <rystraum> Shogoot: Have you verified that all your sound out volume are up and none are muted?
[15:55] <Plasmastar> sharplinux: I can ping, but I think it's the other machine replying. lol
[15:55] <Shogoot> rystraum, yes
[15:55] <itguru> Is there an ubuntu alternative to freenx?
[15:55] <hylian> DarkStar1
[15:55] <sharplinux> hmm
[15:55] <technikfreak> hello together which file manager is good for ubuntu and windows shares?
[15:55] <DarkStar1> hylian: Yes?
[15:56] <sharplinux> Plasmastar: do you connect by IP or by hostname?
[15:56] <rystraum> technikfreak: Nautilus should be just fine.
[15:56] <technikfreak> ok
[15:56] <Plasmastar> scriptwarlock: You wouldn't be able to connect. :(
[15:56] <cyberfux> technikfreak pyneighbourhood is the weapon of choice for me
[15:56]  * DarkStar1 is instaling SAMNBA
[15:56] <Plasmastar> sharplinux: Both
[15:56] <hylian> DarkStar1, sorry. ok, this is on a local network, and your server is running windows 7, or a local machine is?
[15:56] <dad-2-girls-uk> please help ime trying to set up a channel for me and my gf and dont know how to do it
[15:56] <vishal> D4m14n, sorry I also don't know even more than that yet... :(
[15:56] <Plasmastar> Err, IP/Domain
[15:56] <DarkStar1> local machine is win 7
[15:56] <D4m14n> vishal: np
[15:56] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: are you using a 4port router for ics?
[15:56] <DarkStar1> the printer is connected to this machine (lucid 64)
[15:56] <bazhang> dad-2-girls-uk, /join #freenode for that
[15:56] <dad-2-girls-uk> ok ty
[15:57] <DarkStar1> hylian: the printer is connected to this machine (lucid 64)
[15:57] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: i mean router
[15:57] <Plasmastar> scriptwarlock: Just some jinky router using DSL.
[15:57] <Shogoot> rystraum, i tried to install alsa, but its already up to date
[15:57] <rystraum> Shogoot: Hmmm. Have it worked ever before?
[15:57] <DarkStar1> hylian: even followed all the instructions on this page: http://reformedmusings.wordpress.com/2010/05/08/sharing-printers-with-ubuntu-lucid-10-04-lts-and-a-firewall/
[15:57] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: is the router giving all the machines a good internet onnections?
[15:57] <hylian> DarkStar1 does windows see that machine at all? (just listed in the network neighborhood?
[15:57] <Plasmastar> Yup.
[15:57] <Shogoot> rystraum, yes i got a new instal of ubuntu, but it has worked fine before
[15:57] <D4m14n> guys i think i have problem with my locale because invalid-encode appear in a lots of files
[15:57] <D4m14n> is possible to change that?
[15:58] <DarkStar1> hylian: No
[15:58] <Plasmastar> Let me get this out, I can boot up to windows and have a remote machine connect just fine.
[15:58] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: have oyu check the port mapping in the router? or somehting like that
[15:58] <Plasmastar> It's nothing with the router.
[15:58] <DarkStar1> hylian: nor can I see the windows 7 on the network ither. But the machine can ping me
[15:58] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: yeah thats right
[15:59] <technikfreak>  pyneighbourhood is perfect!!!!
[15:59] <rystraum> PLasmastar: Hmmm. Then it's an OS issue, I guess. I'll try to follow what scriptwarlock have found out so far.
[15:59] <sharplinux> Plasmastar: I would verify that you can ping both machines from each other as a first step
[15:59] <bdheeman> through 1.2.43 in the older series contain and bug; but we still only have version 1.2.42 of libpng even on lucid http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/libpng.html :(
[15:59] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: so the problem is you cant remote to anyone of your machines
[15:59] <GrUbEr111> hey im getting a grub error 17, heres a link to a screenshot of sudo fdisk -l...    http://imgur.com/dL6uv
[15:59] <scriptwarlock> not even the one you are using right now?
[15:59] <hylian> DarkStar1 ok did you follow thes steps listed here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[16:00] <Plasmastar> Holy crap. I activated a magnifier. How to disable that?
[16:00] <Plasmastar> Windows+R?
[16:00] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: lolz
[16:00] <Plasmastar> helppppppp
[16:00] <DarkStar1> hylian: a sec I'll look at it
[16:00] <rystraum> Plasmastar: Right click?
[16:01] <hylian> Plasmaster alt f2 then xkill then point at the magnifier.
[16:02] <sharplinux> hylian: cool!  I never knew about xkill
[16:02] <hylian> thats typical. rystraum has the right way to do it. hylian smashes it with a hammer
[16:02] <Plasmastar> brb :|
[16:02] <OmegaWork> Is there a way to install packages from AUR on Ubuntu?
[16:02] <Shogoot> Ubuntu 10.4 is not playing any sound. I installed the mediaubuntu codec and are using vlc. (if that has soemthing to do with it) Ive had sound on ubuntu on other ubuntu instal on this machine, but this fresh install is not playing sounds. Not muted and volumes are set to 100%. Anyone that can help?
[16:02] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: ok lets go back to your issue
[16:02] <rystraum> OmegaWork: AUR?
[16:02] <hylian> xkill can be a usefull tool
[16:02] <OmegaWork> rystraum: Arch User Repository.
[16:03] <scriptwarlock> up for the xkill
[16:03] <OmegaWork> I like Ubuntu, but I like their software selection.
[16:03] <xangua> OmegaWork: have you heard of launchad, PPA ¿
[16:03] <OmegaWork> xangua: Yes, yes I have.
[16:03] <IdleOne> OmegaWork: AUR are like PPA, see if there is an equivalent PPA for what you are looking for. mixing repos is a bad idea
[16:03] <xangua> OmegaWork: you can easilly configure extra repositories with ubuntu tweak if that's what you want OmegaWork
[16:04] <OmegaWork> Now, have you heard of a way to accomplish my task?
[16:04] <rystraum> Shogoot: Have you tried verifying the levels from the CLI via alsamixer?
[16:04] <OmegaWork> Hmm.
[16:04] <DarkStar1> hylian: Ok I already did those steps but I didn't restart the service. Done so now. Gimme a sc to find out
[16:04] <sharplinux> OmegaWork: I seriously doubt it would work - very different packaging architectures...
[16:04] <Shogoot> rystraum, no. how do i do that?
[16:04] <OmegaWork> Why exactly is mixing repos's a bad idea?
[16:04] <itguru> I'm having issues withh pptp and vpn in the gnome environment -- are there any know bugs in this area?
[16:04] <Plasmastar> I have another issue that might be easier to fix.
[16:04] <rystraum> I've encountered instances wherein it's muted in alsamixer but it doesn't show up in the GUI sound levels
[16:04] <GrUbEr111> what does ~/ mean ?
[16:05] <Plasmastar> I'm using the NVidia driver and the resolution keeps changing when I relog/reboot.
[16:05] <OmegaWork> home
[16:05] <IdleOne> OmegaWork: for one: different packaging system as mentioned by sharplinux
[16:05] <Plasmastar> How can I stop that? It's a very small resolution. lol
[16:05] <DarkStar1> hylian: no. still not showing
[16:05] <rystraum> GrUbEr111: The home directory of whichever user you are logged in.
[16:05] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: yo thats a good issue
[16:05] <OmegaWork> Does Arch and Ubuntu install software to different locations?
[16:05] <rystraum> Shogoot: Open the terminal and type alsamixer
[16:05] <sharplinux> OmegaWork: very possibly
[16:05] <hylian> rystraum a customers alsa mixer wouldnt except the gui's command, so ihad to use a terminal command, forgot it now, but maybe that would help
[16:05] <Plasmastar> No, it's a small resolution, like 300x300 or something. XD
[16:05] <Plasmastar> It shouldn't be changing anyways. :(
[16:06] <sharplinux> arch and ubuntu are not even cousins, more like very distant relatives
[16:06] <OmegaWork> Why thanks, my good people.
[16:06] <OmegaWork> That I am aware of.
[16:06] <hylian> DarkStar1 well you can ping it, and it's set up right, hmm. any chance for some strange reason that a router is blocking a port or something?
[16:06] <Kcarevo> Hey, new to Linux and Ubuntu here. I saw the "05_debian_theme" (background for Grub) tweak and copied it letter by letter (except for obvious exceptions), but I can't get it to work for the life of me. Here's my '05_debian_theme' file - http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=qN94y147
[16:06] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: is that a usplash?
[16:07] <GrUbEr111> so like ~ is currant user, and / is home? couldn't you just use cd desktop?
[16:07] <hylian> DarkStar1 did you reboot both machines?
[16:07] <Plasmastar> scriptwarlock: usplash?
[16:07] <OmegaWork> PPA's are a bit of a bother in my opinion, they require you to get the GPG keys of the repo and such.
[16:07] <Kcarevo> Looking around, most places say that "JPG" files won't work (although the Ubuntu User magazine says otherwise), so I tried a tga file, and still no dice.
[16:07] <Shogoot> master - headhphone and speaker has gren withe and red bar.
[16:07] <sharplinux> OmegaWork: for one thing, I imagine the /etc/rc.d/ scripts in arch packages would not cleanly port to the /etc/init.d/ scripts used by Ubunut
[16:07] <DarkStar1> hylian: nah.. Didn't think a reboot is required for ubuntu
[16:07] <Shogoot> some are MM wich i guess is muted?
[16:07] <sharplinux> *Ubuntu
[16:07] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: forget it no its not
[16:08] <rystraum> Kcarevo: The for loop doesn't know when the current iteration stops.
[16:08] <kop_> Plasmastar, you have to allow write access to the file where the config is help
[16:08] <hylian> DarkStar1 it probably isnt, but i always do that as a step, windows can be a beat when setting up networks, and sometimes refuses to see change till reboot. but thats xp, dont know about 7
[16:08] <Kcarevo> rystraum - should I initialize i?
[16:08] <Plasmastar> Now how do I do that?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> Plasmastar, one can put up with ppa just for the time needed to install whatever package it contains, then just remove it unles you want daily builds
[16:08] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: i was looking actualy on my usplash reso during boot sudo gedit /etc/usplash.conf
[16:09] <xangua> OmegaWork: you can use sudo add-apt-repository "ppa's name" to add both the ppa and the gpg key
[16:09] <rystraum> Kcarevo: I think you should have "done;" where the for-loop should re-iterate. That's from the top-of-my-head recall of bash syntax.
[16:09] <kop_> Plasmastar, I'm not at an nvidia machine atm but somone should be able to point you to the file  then "man chmod" ie: sudo chmod 755 <foo>
[16:10] <itguru> I'm looking into cmake, can i use it to compile rpms for centos on an ubuntu box?
[16:10] <rystraum> !info chmod | Plasmastar
[16:10] <Kcarevo> rystraum - Ok, let me add that and see what the grub-ubdate does
[16:10] <Plasmastar> ok
[16:10] <hylian> um im using lucid, and i have chmod'd several bin's already
[16:10] <rystraum> Woops. I thought ubottu have commands in its list too. >_<
[16:10] <BluesKaj> itguru, not a good policy ...rpms can break your system
[16:11] <BluesKaj> !rpms
[16:11] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: have you tried startup manager? a gui to adjust some boot reso and etc
[16:11] <BluesKaj> !rpm
[16:11] <kop_> rystraum, yeah ubottu has limitations
[16:11] <itguru> The target is not an debian based system, i'm looking into cross compiling
[16:11] <Shogoot> rystraum, how do i change the "MM" status?
[16:11] <Kcarevo> rystraum - Hm, you mean just add a final line with "done;", right? I'm not familiar with any kind of Linux script... and it still isn't showing up in the update
[16:11] <Plasmastar> I'm pretty new to ubuntu scriptwarlock  :(
[16:12] <itguru> As in building rpms/debs to latest source to provide consistancy across a development farm of machines
[16:12] <hylian> itguru can you get this software in bin format. because then from sudo you can chmod a+x the file then ./filename
[16:12] <rystraum> Shogoot: pressing 'm' should toggle it.
[16:12] <kop_> Shogoot, if you're refering to the alsa config , the "M" key
[16:13] <rystraum> Kcarevo: I'm not familiar with what the script is trying to achieve. Can you give me an overview of what you want done?
[16:13] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: try startup manager
[16:13] <rystraum> Kcarevo: Maybe there's another way to do it.
[16:13] <Shogoot> rystraum, got sound from my own mic now.
[16:13] <hylian> gotta go, lunch.
[16:13] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: at the ubuntu software center see how it works for you
[16:13] <rystraum> Shogoot: But still no sound from applications?
[16:13] <Shogoot> no sound from the film im playing though
[16:13] <Shogoot> rystraum, aye
[16:13] <josue> I dont know how to configure my microphone to use skype in ubuntu 9.10
[16:14] <rystraum> Shogoot: I guess it's an application issue. What app are you using?
[16:14] <Shogoot> vlc
[16:14] <fridgerator> josue click on the speaker in the top right of your screen and go to 'sound preferences'
[16:14] <josue> ok
[16:14] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: instead of messing on grub2 you can use that..
[16:15] <fridgerator> and make sure you have the right input selected in the input tab
[16:15] <rystraum> Shogoot: What does Tools -> Preferences -> Audio (In 'All' settings) have?
[16:15] <Plasmastar> Add/Remove?
[16:15] <josue> done
[16:15] <sharplinux> Plasmastar: which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[16:15] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: are you using the previous ubuntu? not lucid yet?
[16:15] <Kcarevo> rystraum - I added a picture, "londonbridge.jpg" to /usr/share/images/grub", and copied the script that you have seen from "Ubuntu User". What it should do is place the "londonbridge.jpg" image behind the GRUB bootloader, but it isn't even recognized in the "update-grub"
[16:16] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: yes at the add/remove
[16:16] <Plasmastar> sharplinux: Pretty old one. haha
[16:16] <Kcarevo> rystraum - it seems that the script is pretty old, but it is still used
[16:16] <Shogoot> rystraum, seems ok things are enabled
[16:16] <fridgerator> josue did you have to make any changes?
[16:16] <Plasmastar> Jaunty whatever
[16:16] <GrUbEr111> im geting a grub error 17, any ideas?
[16:16] <sharplinux> Plasmastar: do you know which version?
[16:16] <josue> no
[16:16] <Plasmastar> 9.04
[16:16] <Shogoot> ding! had a value to -1
[16:16] <Shogoot> put it on +1 i now got sound
[16:16] <rystraum> Shogoot: make that Tools -> Preferences -> Audio -> Output modules
[16:16] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: ok thats add/remove
[16:16] <Kcarevo> rystraum - And since I haven't found any similar problems, I get the feeling that I'm doing something stupid
[16:17] <sharplinux> Plasmastar: no problem - that's still supported, but it's pre-Ubuntu Software Center
[16:17] <fuhreal> Can anyone point me to where i can find sources with "fun" tools like nmap/netcat
[16:17] <fridgerator> josue go back to the input tab in the sound preferences and see if the input level graph moves when you talk into the mic... also make sure its not muted at the top
[16:17] <rystraum> Shogoot: Problem solved? :)
[16:17] <abhi_nav> How to tell my nokia 2700 classic to use my computer internet to sync to ubuntuone?
[16:17] <Shogoot> rystraum, yes! thanks
[16:17] <josue> fridgerator it doesnt move while I talk
[16:17] <josue> and its not mutted
[16:18] <test34> If I play an mp3 using audacity, it sounds OK, but if I play it with the Movie player or Rythmbox it sounds like gibberish.. Is the movie player and Rythmbox using the wrong codec?
[16:18] <rystraum> Kcarevo: Hmmm. It's not in my current set of expertise just yet so I'm afraid I would be of little help right now. Sorry.
[16:18] <fridgerator> josue is it just a mic plugged into the mic port on your sound card?
[16:18] <Kcarevo> rystraum - Thanks anyway - I'll see if I get the same problem on another computer
[16:18] <josue> I'm using a laptop inspiron
[16:19] <fridgerator> josue is it a built in mic then?
[16:19] <GrUbEr111> rystram an u help with my grub issue?
[16:19] <sharplinux> fuhreal: they are in the standard repositories
[16:19] <josue> yeap
[16:19] <josue> its built in
[16:19] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: after you isntalled the startup manager launch it at system>adminstration>startup manager
[16:19] <fuhreal> sharplinux really?  I seem to have trouvble findding nmap
[16:19] <josue> I've been using it in windows
[16:19] <Plasmastar> I couldn't find it. lol
[16:19] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: finish installing startup manager?
[16:20] <sharplinux> fuhreal: should be there...  how are you searching? GUI or command line?
[16:20] <GrUbEr111> fuhreal, jsut go to terminal and type nmap, if u have it, it will run
[16:20] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: then ALT+f2 and type startupmanager
[16:20] <fuhreal> sharplinux Both.....
[16:20] <rystraum> GrUbEr111 : What's your GRUB issue again? I'm afraid I was keeping track of a lot of issues. @_@
[16:20] <fuhreal> fuhreal@fuhreal-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install nMap
[16:20] <Plasmastar> I just found it in Add/Remove
[16:20] <fridgerator> josue go into the hardware tab in the sound preferences, does it show "interntal audio", "analog stereo duplex" ?
[16:20] <fuhreal> Package nmap is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[16:20] <fridgerator> internal*
[16:20] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: ok fire it up
[16:21] <josue> fridgerator yes, it show that
[16:21] <sharplinux> fuhreal: don't use a captial "M"
[16:21] <fuhreal> GrUbEr111 I don't have it installed yet
[16:21] <sharplinux> fuhreal: sudo apt-get install nmap
[16:21] <rystraum> fuhreal: try sudo apt-get install nmap <then press tab> and see which results you have.
[16:21] <Plasmastar> installing :P
[16:21] <sharplinux> fuhreal: ubuntu package names are all lowercase
[16:21] <GrUbEr111> ruhreal then type sudo apt-get install nmap into your terminal window
[16:21] <fuhreal> sharplinux yah, i tried that ..... didn't work, so i tried capitolizing the N then the M ...
[16:21] <rystraum> If nmap is referred by another package, it should be one of those packages that show up when you press tab
[16:21] <fuhreal> rystraum  trying
[16:22] <fridgerator> josue hmm, im not sure then, maybe try running 'hardware drivers' to see if you need a 3rd party driver
[16:22] <werneck> after I change some setting at gconf-editor, are they supposed to work immediately or do I have to apply the changes somehow?
[16:22] <rystraum> werneck: It applies immediately.
[16:22] <josue> ok, What shoud I do and how?
[16:22] <snowrichard> hello
[16:23] <fridgerator> josue go to the gnome menu, then under administration go to 'hardware drivers'
[16:23] <sharplinux> snowrichard: hi
[16:24] <GrUbEr111> can someone help with a grub error 17?
[16:24] <fuhreal> so the package manager is telling me nmap is not installable now
[16:24] <werneck> rystraum: ok, thanks
[16:24] <fuhreal> when i try to install nmapfe .....
[16:24] <xangua> werneck: changing what exactly
[16:24] <rystraum> fuhreal: Package sources issues?
[16:24] <fridgerator> josue install any drivers it comes up with related to audio or multimedia, if this doesnt work restate your question in the channel and maybe someone else can help you
[16:24] <Plasmastar> hey thanks, gonna test that now
[16:24] <fuhreal> rystraum possibly... not sure.... trying to find a list of sources
[16:24] <sharplinux> fuhreal: can you paste the full output at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ ?
[16:24] <scriptwarlock> Plasmaster: :)
[16:24] <werneck> xangua: I'd like to use the mouse wheel on window title bar for shading
[16:24] <fuhreal> sharplinux: sure
[16:24] <rystraum> GrUbEr111 : error 17 is bad disk?
[16:25] <werneck> xangua: but it looks like metacity has it only for left, middle and right click
[16:25] <GrUbEr111> a bad hard disk?
[16:25] <jakuplutzen> hello peeps. I Just installed ubuntu server 10.04 but I am having a hard time connecting it to my wifi. I'm using an usb wifi thingy.
[16:26] <rystraum> GrUbEr111: I'm not sure. Lemme Google it.
[16:26] <fuhreal> sharplinux: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/FX9NYw0w
[16:26] <GrUbEr111> rystraum, google says it means the grub cant boot into the boot partition
[16:26] <GrUbEr111> rystyaum, but it pops up even before i try to select one
[16:27]  * scriptwarlock /yawns
[16:27] <sharplinux> fuhreal: can you try sudo apt-get install zenmap ?
[16:28] <sharplinux> fuhreal: nevermind, I see now
[16:28] <sharplinux> hmm
[16:28] <fuhreal> sharplinux: yah same thing
[16:28] <rystraum> GrUbEr111: It looks like it's a disk / partition problems.
[16:28] <GrUbEr111> rystraum, is there a way to fix that?
[16:28] <sharplinux> fuhreal: can you post the output of apt-cache policy nmap ?
[16:28] <rystraum> Have you tried fdisk-ing the disk? http://stringofthoughts.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/grub-error-17-debianubuntu/
[16:29] <GrUbEr111> yea let me imgur it for u
[16:29] <fuhreal> sure
[16:29] <ole> wow, youtube now allows 4K videos
[16:29] <ole> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0m1XmvBey8
[16:29] <fuhreal> sharplinux: sure
[16:29] <ole> At 4096 x 3072 pixels
[16:29] <GrUbEr111> http://imgur.com/dL6uv
[16:30] <preecher> how do i have desktop widgets in ubuntu
[16:30] <idk_> how do i remove a directory with everything inside it? ive tried rm sbnc/*; rmdir sbnc  - but it asks for deletion on every file which is very annoying
[16:30] <fridgerator> preecher sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[16:30] <preecher> fridgerator thanks
[16:30] <fuhreal> sharplinux: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/kvQf9JtH
[16:31] <fridgerator> preecher you might have to do gdesklets-data too
[16:31] <scriptwarlock> idk_: where does that dir located?
[16:31] <sharplinux> fuhreal: weird... can you sudo apt-get update and try again?
[16:31] <preecher> ok thx