[00:00] <MissVera> Okay. It has me wanting to log in, and to choose between Xubuntu and xfce... Which is new. And, doesnt want to take my password.   Guh.
[00:00] <jvdz> escott: Really, in my scenario, I'd have local mac (with FS encryption), and I'd like to ssh-rsync to a remote VPS
[00:00] <escott> jvdz, most encryption systems will let you keep the key elsewhere. its not necessarily going to be easy to do, but it can surely be done
[00:00] <RyuGuns> I'm installing some stuff, however, I forgot what type of processor I have, how do I tell?
[00:00] <jvdz> escott: During that rsync, I'd have to mount my remote directory (using encrypt I'd presume); once completed, it would be unmounted. Is that the general approach?
[00:00] <escott> jvdz, why not just do the rsync on ciphertext?
[00:01] <ghostchick> RyuGuns,  uname -a
[00:01] <RyuGuns> Into the terminal?
[00:01] <dioms> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[00:01] <escott> jvdz, unless you need to read the files on the VPS, why let the VPS ever see plaintext?
[00:01] <jvdz> escott: Pardon, I don't know what that is.
[00:01] <RyuGuns> Thanks, ghostchick!
[00:02] <escott> jvdz, you want encrypted files on the VPS. why not encrypt them locally, and then rsync the encrypted files?
[00:02] <roadster> Is it possible to make my Ubuntu look like this? I really like the way this looks. www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WnaZL3ARN0
[00:03] <escott> MissVera, you can fix the password by selecting recovery mode from the boot and typing passwd username where "username" is your username
[00:03] <roadster> What kind of desktop is that?
[00:04] <jvdz> escott: By local encrypt, do you mean like openSSL encrypting the local files?
[00:04] <asus1025c> i followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1953734&page=10 (POST #94)  and i can confirm my hdmi port works. now. i can confirm that i can watch  480p films with vlc/smplayer on  my 32INCH LCD TV. No problems encountered
[00:04] <asus1025c> By the way my netbook is ASUS 1025C Atom N2800  Intel Graphics GMA3650 running jxself's compiled 3.4.4 on Trisquel GNU/Linux 5.5
[00:05] <asus1025c> Trisquel GNU/Linux 5.5  is based on Ubuntu 11.10
[00:05] <escott> jvdz, whatever method you want. unless you need to be able to edit the files on the VPS. i would never expose the VPS to plaintext. encrypt it with whatever method you want. gpg/ecryptfs etc and put the encrypted files on the VPS directly. rsync wont care that the files are binary.
[00:05] <MissVera> escott, I went through recovery and now I've got a menu? resume, clean, dpkg, fsck, grub, network, root, system-summary ?
[00:05] <asus1025c> My netbook supports 1024x600  @24bit colour and I am currently displaying my desktop on my 32inch LCD TV  at 1280x1024 @24 bit colour...   and all of that using 100% free software! No blobs and no meego closed source crap!
[00:05] <escott> MissVera, "root"
[00:06] <MissVera> I cant believe its been so long since i installed, I forgot what i passworded the damn thing as
[00:06] <aguitel> in gome terminal appears only black screen ,why ?
[00:06] <MissVera> escott, so  root@localhost:~#
[00:06] <escott> MissVera, passwd username
[00:07] <asus1025c> so are there any people here who happen to own an Intel Atom N2800 netbook who is willing to share their experiences regarding hdmi and video display on BIG LCD TV
[00:07] <asus1025c> s
[00:07] <MissVera> user does not exist... fml
[00:07] <asus1025c> so are there any people here who happen to own an Intel Atom N2800 netbook who is willing to share their experiences regarding hdmi and video display on BIG LCD TV  screens?
[00:07] <ghostchick> MissVera,  don't type username
[00:08] <MissVera> I didnt. I typed in what I though i had named their profile.
[00:08] <escott> MissVera, "username" should be your username whatever you set it as
[00:08] <Fedora1> I have a big problem!!!!
[00:08] <ghostchick> what appears under /home?
[00:08] <MissVera> In fact, Im certain of what i named it, and it's not working... So. I dont know.
[00:08] <Jordan_U> escott: They can find the username with "ls /home/".
[00:08] <Fedora1> whose in charge?
[00:09] <MissVera> lol
[00:09] <aguitel> in gome terminal appears only black screen no line to write
[00:09] <Jordan_U> Fedora1: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[00:10] <MissVera> Jordan_U if I typed that where i am, and it didnt do anything.  unless, thats something I'm supposed to put in terminal...
[00:11] <Jordan_U> MissVera: "ls /home/" is something you would enter into the terminal.
[00:12] <MissVera> Jordan_U so, if i cant log in, how do i get to terminal?
[00:12] <mvid> has anyone had any luck installing ubuntu on the samsung chromeBOX
[00:12] <ghostchick> ctrl +alt +f 1
[00:12] <escott> MissVera, you are in a terminal. a root one
[00:14] <PapaSmurf007> I'm trying to win an arguement, can someone give me some ideas for the "benefits of working for free to develop open source software"
[00:14] <IdleOne> !ot | PapaSmurf007
[00:14] <MissVera> ls home did nothing. ghostchick had me try cd /home/   and then ls -a  and in the next line all it gave me were blue dots :/
[00:14] <PapaSmurf007> oh ok, i'll take it elsewhere
[00:15] <lolly> so can anyone help?
[00:16] <escott> MissVera, whatever you used to install screwed up a lot of stuff. never got the bootloader installed, didnt make the initrd, and evidently never created the user account
[00:16] <MissVera> lol
[00:16] <MissVera> Figured something like that
[00:17] <escott> MissVera, "grep 1000 /etc/passwd" just to make sure it didnt create the user
[00:18] <MissVera> escott, didnt do anything.
[00:19] <escott> MissVera, then "adduser <username>"
[00:19] <neteffect> hi
[00:19] <escott> MissVera, that should create /home/username
[00:20] <escott> then you can "passwd <username>"
[00:20] <melontrolly> Does anyone know how to run a command when usb device is plugged in using udev? Any help would be appreciated http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11302684/run-something-when-usb-device-is-plugged-in-doesnt-work
[00:21] <escott> and finally you will want to make that user an administrator. not sure what version of ubuntu this was. if it is 12.04 run "usermod -a -G sudo <username>" for other versions run "usermod -a -G admin <username>"
[00:21] <escott> at least i think its admin
[00:21] <MissVera> escott,  adding new group 'lon' (1001) ...      groupadd: cannot lock /etc/group; try again later.    adduser: '/usr/sbin/groupadd -g 1001 lon' returned error code 10. Exiting.
[00:21] <MissVera> escott, i could never add a user. hh
[00:22] <escott> MissVera, something has locked /etc/group. i dont know what it would be or how to clear it. probably got locked by the original installer before it ran into trouble
[00:23] <escott> MissVera, maybe the fuser command can clear the lock, but i dont know what the command would be. and im a bit too tired at this point
[00:23] <escott> goodluck :)
[00:25] <ghostchick> escott,  Congratulation though you debugged the hardest part
[00:25] <MissVera> Aye.  Thanks a lot escott.  Ive been stuck on this for about a day and a half.
[00:25] <escott> ghostchick, it wasn't so much debugging as just doing stupid things that are usually done automatically. had i known to look for these issues from the start it would have been easy
[00:27] <escott> MissVera, im almost tempted to tell you to just reinstall. we know the hardware can work. we just need the installer to not chock in the middle of the install
[00:27] <escott> choke
[00:27] <ki7rw> oh man! i used rsync to back up my server drive and everything was backed up except for my home movies - they are lost forever - i will never use rsync again
[00:27] <MissVera> escott.... Wouldnt I have to do all of that all over again?
[00:28] <escott> MissVera, if the installer doesn't blow up halfway through the customization no we wouldn't. its clear the installer just crashed in the middle. it didn't do any of the final steps to make the system usable
[00:28] <rinzler> Installed 12.04 on my Dell Precision  m70, and when I'm on battery, the left speaker clicks incessantly... any ideas on how to stop it?
[00:28] <escott> ki7rw, that would be a silly response
[00:29] <MissVera> escott, it never crashed though. It continued, and then loaded the OS. No indication of any problems, until i rebooted and had a blackscreen with a cursor
[00:29] <ki7rw> i mean it! it's an unreliable piece of crap!
[00:30] <escott> !language | ki7rw
[00:30] <ki7rw> kiss off
[00:30] <escott> rather than being frustrated and lashing out at the software you might ask for help on how to use rsync properly
[00:31] <escott> MissVera, im worried that you fix up the user account and then find that something else in the install failed...
[00:31] <escott> MissVera, you might be better off doing a fresh install from vanilla xubuntu
[00:32] <evie_hammond> ki7rw: if you use the -n switch it does a dry run and shows you what it will do
[00:32] <Meep> When I watch flash or there's any sort of flash ad banners on a webpage, my laptop will periodically just shut down.
[00:32] <escott> MissVera, worst case it fails again in the same way and you know that (A) you need to install grub, (b) make initrds (c) update-grub (d) create user accounts ...
[00:32] <Meep> Help?
[00:32] <escott> MissVera, and you can do that all in one chroot without all the intervening reboots
[00:32] <escott> MissVera, would take 15minutes if you know what to do
[00:33] <rinzler> Installed 12.04 on my Dell Precision  m70, and when I'm on battery, the left speaker clicks incessantly... any ideas on how to stop it?
[00:33] <MissVera> escott, keyphrase, if i knew what to do
[00:34] <escott> MissVera, yeah but you tell someone in channel that you need to do these things and they can walk you through it
[00:34] <escott> you've done chroot 3 times now. at some point it becomes muscle memory
[00:34] <escott> figuring out what to do is 80% fo the battle
[00:35] <Athleek123> Hi, yesterday I was having trouble with a FATAL: ndiswrapper module not found, and I was told I had to compile ndiswrapper.  I ended up deleting ubuntu with the hope that reinstalling would help, but before I reinstall I want to make sure there is someone knowledgeable who can help me prevent the error from appearing again
[00:36] <bazhang> Athleek123, you suggested that you needed to compile it, by some third party guide
[00:36] <bazhang> Athleek123, install ndisgtk as suggested at the time if you must use it
[00:37] <Athleek123> bazhang i believe it was an ubuntu guide, and I was asking whether or not the guide was correct; I was told it was correct
[00:37] <Athleek123> ndisgtk didn't install for some reason
[00:37] <bazhang> Athleek123, the channel logs indicate otherwise
[00:38] <bazhang> Athleek123, what was the reason for ndisgtk not installing properly, give us the exact error message
[00:38] <Athleek123> i remember actionparsnip saying something like, I guess you'll have to compile then
[00:38] <Kinter> hi
[00:38] <escott> MissVera, i don't really see a downside in trying to get a good install. i do see a downside in trying to identify/fix the unknown unknowns of a partial install
[00:38] <bazhang> Athleek123, from a guide you suggested.
[00:39] <bazhang> Athleek123, please provide the exact errors on the ndisgtk issue
[00:39] <Athleek123> bazhang well i guess I put it the wrong way because I was trying to see if the guide was correct
[00:39] <solidus-lake> hey, i was wondering how i can enable the testing repositories but only allow certain packages from them
[00:39] <solidus-lake> for example i want gimp 2.8
[00:40] <Athleek123> bazhang and i dont remember exactly, but it was really general, like ndisgtk couldn't install: errors
[00:40] <solidus-lake> but i dont want to use some 3rd party repo for it and im guessing in unstable they have a pkg for it
[00:40] <bazhang> Athleek123, the exact error message from failed ndisgrk install please
[00:40] <MissVera> escott, you and ghostchick are the only people who've stuck with me through problems, Im definitely not reinstalling if you two are going offline.  I mean. So far, it seems only the user issue is there.
[00:40] <Athleek123> bazhang i dont have it
[00:40] <Athleek123> bazhang in software center it said it needed python-glade2
[00:40] <bazhang> Athleek123, try to install it now and pastebin the errors
[00:40] <bazhang> !paste | Athleek123
[00:41] <Athleek123> ^" I ended up deleting ubuntu with the hope that reinstalling would help"
[00:41] <Athleek123> ^deleting'
[00:41] <neteffect> the vmware player is kinda slow but it really does a good job runnign this ubuntu install wow
[00:41] <Athleek123> and idk how to get python-glade2
[00:42] <solidus-lake> anyone can inform me how to use a whiltelist for some testing packages?
[00:42] <escott> MissVera, i would give the channel more credit. i've seen a lot of the guys in channel battle through some crazy stuff. you bring to them a clear concise explanation of what happens and ask for the commands you need to run and they will certainly help. bazhang, ActionParsnip, holstein, etc. they all know the steps
[00:43] <solidus-lake> jesus, really, no one here knows apt that well eh?
[00:43] <solidus-lake> interesting
[00:44] <IdleOne> !patience
[00:44] <escott> solidus-lake, be patient. channel has gone quiet the last hour or so
[00:44] <MissVera> escott, im going to try two things, and if it doesnt work, i'll fresh install and I'll try to save this entire conversation so i know what sort of help to ask for when/if i need it
[00:44] <rinzler> Installed 12.04 on my Dell Precision  m70, and when I'm on battery, the left speaker clicks incessantly... any ideas on how to stop it?
[00:45] <Athleek123> bazhang: Errors were encountered while processing ndisgtk.
[00:45] <escott> !logs | MissVera
[00:45] <solidus-lake> does ubuntu have a backports?
[00:45] <IdleOne> yes
[00:45] <MissVera> !seppuku
[00:45] <MissVera> Oh darn
[00:45] <IdleOne> solidus-lake: you can enable them via Software Sources
[00:45] <bazhang> MissVera, dont do that
[00:46] <MissVera> bazhang, sense of humor. Calm down.
[00:46] <Athleek123> bazhang^
[00:46] <excelsior> What's the downside(s) of doing an in-place upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04?
[00:46] <bazhang> MissVera, wrong place for it. /msg ubottu
[00:47] <excelsior> !ot
[00:47] <IdleOne> excelsior: not advisable. it will break. you need to follow the upgrade process. see /msg ubottu !upgrade
[00:47] <MissVera> bazhang, it's the wrong place to express a sense of humor? Didnt realize there was a proper place. Especially after battling distros for a week as a recent windows convert. But.  Okie doke.
[00:48] <randomDude> i have a 12.04 desktop that users loginto via ldap.... printer settings management thingo won't let them stop print jobs
[00:48] <Athleek123> bazhang is mad at me
[00:48] <MissVera> I think he's just mad period. :x
[00:48] <Athleek123> :S ya
[00:48] <IdleOne> MissVera: We try to keep this channel strictly for support. We do have a off topic channel were jokes are greatly appreciated #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:49] <MissVera> IdleOne, no one speaks in there. Besides.98% of what i say is support related. Pardon a slip.
[00:49] <IdleOne> MissVera: no worries. :)
[00:49] <Datatsream111> Someone wanna give me some installition support quick?
[00:50] <randomDude> any idea why none sudo users are unable to stop print jobs in Settings > Printers > [Select Printer] > Show Jobs > [Select Print Job] > <Click Stop Icon> ?
[00:50] <alankila> MissVera: pro tip: embed your jokes as part of the advice and steer clear of anything that has even a whiff of controversy. (End-of-offtopic-advice.)
[00:50] <escott> randomDude, are the members of lpadmin?
[00:50] <randomDude> escott: probably not.
[00:51] <randomDude> escott: same problem as this person : http://askubuntu.com/questions/87600/printer-jobs-can-not-be-stopped
[00:51] <escott> randomDude, make them. i wouldn't expect cups to check if they were members of sudo
[00:51] <Datatsream111> Does it normally take 2 hours plus on a blank screen for ubuntu to be installed as single operating system?
[00:51] <rinzler> Datatsream111: specific questions are more appreciated here. what's up?
[00:51] <randomDude> escott: one would would think that if they weren't the guhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/87600/printer-jobs-can-not-be-stoppedi would popup a warning saying as much
[00:52]  * randomDude rages
[00:52] <rinzler> Datatsream111: at what stage of the installation?
[00:53] <escott> randomDude, the simplification of the gnome-system-settings dialogs have broken a lot of things
[00:53] <randomDude> escott: including basic logic of the universe
[00:54] <Datatsream111> rinzler: Just after choose the system to be single operating system as opposed to duel boot or custom setup, I've been on a blank screen with the loading cursor for two hours and I don't know if the OS is even installing
[00:54] <excelsior> IdleOne: thanks for the recommendation. Is there a way to preserve my music and video collection without having to using cloud storage, since my net connection is a bit slow?
[00:54] <neteffect> wow my ubuntu on this vm player is slow oh well
[00:55] <rinzler> Datatsream111: it seems like your computer is having a hard time processing the whole desktop thing plus the installer. have you tried the alternate installer?
[00:56] <rinzler> Datatsream111: it's very low graphics, so it's usually easier on a system...
[00:56] <Datatsream111> rinzler: not at all. I'm worried a hard shutdown in this stage would botch somthing up.
[00:57] <IdleOne> excelsior: sorry, what recommendation was that?
[00:57] <excelsior> full install versus upgrade
[00:57] <excelsior> instead of upgrade
[00:58] <rinzler> Datatsream111: if you were going to wipe the drive and start with ubuntu, you wouldn't loose anything that wouldn't be replaced by a clean install.
[00:58] <ghostchick> excelsior,  you can also create a partion for your medias
[00:58] <jburkholder> hey, anyone have a second?
[00:58] <excelsior> what's the recommended way to do that? I'm using an encrypted drive at the moment.
[00:58] <bz> man parted
[00:58] <Datatsream111> rinzler: Alright, then I'll try that out. Thanks for the help!
[00:58] <bz> man fdisk
[00:58] <jburkholder> I'm missing one
[00:59] <rinzler> Datatsream111: no problem. Been in the same boat myself :P
[01:00] <Loshki> excelsior: how many GB is your collection?
[01:01] <excelsior> ghostchick: I've done partitioning before, but I'm unsure which steps to take. I'm sure my collection is more than 250GB out of a 500GB hard drive.
[01:01] <excelsior> I'm whittling down what I can do without, but still, it's annoying.
[01:02] <Rokon> Does anyone know if it will be possible to update Windows 7 to windows 8 without messing up grub2 and my ubuntu dual boot?
[01:02] <ghostchick> excelsior,  gparted, and well the size means it will be slow
[01:03] <excelsior> actually, I managed to get it less than 250 GB now.
[01:03] <rinzler> Rokon: If you ask me, I wouldn't use Windows 8 unless my life depended on it :P
[01:03] <ghostchick> Rokon,  look at easybcd in windows, but as for the setup it do not think it will be possible
[01:03] <Loshki> excelsior: I think the cheapest, most practical way to back up 250GB is via an external usb drive
[01:04] <rinzler> Rokon: yeah, windows has been notorius for having a distructive install
[01:04] <excelsior> Yeah, but I just don't wanna...
[01:05] <rinzler> Rokon: try this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:05] <Loshki> excelsior: well, you asked...
[01:06] <excelsior> I want to do the partition approach, but the drive is encrypted, what all will I need? Is the live boot thumbdrive enough?
[01:06] <don> hello all
[01:06] <don> my 1st time here
[01:06] <don> ^^
[01:06] <don> ubuntu is awesome!
[01:07] <Rokon> thanks rinzler, I'll check it out
[01:07] <Guest19839> how to register
[01:07] <eph3meral> is there GTK+ equivalent to xman ?
[01:07] <Guest19839> my name Rokon?
[01:07] <rinzler> Rokon: this one might be helpful too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Installing_Windows_After_Ubuntu
[01:07] <ghostchick> excelsior,  normally any ubuntu/linux modern live cd   should be ok
[01:08] <excelsior> ok, well I have it, is there a checklist, or recommended tutorial?
[01:08] <rinzler> Guest19839: go ask in #freenode. They'll help you there..
[01:08] <Guest19839> sry, twas my first time here
[01:08] <escott> Rokon, probably not, but you can just reinstall grub after windows eats the mbr
[01:09] <Rokon> kk
[01:09] <Rokon> that sounds fine
[01:09] <Rokon> I'm not activly installing windows
[01:09] <Rokon> I'm just researching before hand
[01:09] <escott> Rokon, just make sure you have a bootable livecd/liveusb of the same architecture
[01:10] <Salacious> hey peeps I get a permission not allowed on php doing a chmod on an apache server running on 12.04. how do I allow php to do chmod's? (its local host no security threat)
[01:10] <Salacious> sorry it was operation not permitted
[01:11] <rhizmoe> run the webserver as a user with permissions
[01:11] <Salacious> how do you do that?
[01:11] <Salacious> or can you link me to docs
[01:12] <blackshirt> what you mean?
[01:12] <rhizmoe> httpd.conf has a "user" configuration parameter
[01:12] <rhizmoe> it determines what user account the webserver runs under
[01:13] <Salacious> still gonna need docs for commands to pass into the terminal. sorry guys, when it comes to apache i am a newb
[01:13] <KrisKustomPaint> I need some help getting the sta drivers working on a dell d620
[01:13] <blackshirt> apache was run under www-data user
[01:15] <KrisKustomPaint> i went through the terminal stuff your suposed to do and that all went fine until i went to go to the additional drivers and activate the driver and there was nothing there
[01:16] <n1ckn4me09876543> I put lxpanel in StartUp Applications and it started fine when I reboot, now I wanted it to wait 15 seconds so I put: sleep 15 && lxpanel   in the Command, now lxpanel doesnt start at all, what am I doing wrong?
[01:17] <Salacious> still not understanding how to tell apache to run as me guys sorry.
[01:17] <icecube45> okay, so
[01:17] <icecube45> my computer is having some problems
[01:18] <icecube45> im trying to host a minecraft server on it, it is configured correctly, and set outside of my routers firewall
[01:18] <icecube45> yet something seems to be blocking incoming connections
[01:18] <icecube45> for tools such as canyouseeme.org say the port it closed
[01:19] <blackshirt> salacious, exactly i don't know what you need
[01:19] <bz> icecube45: check from localhost
[01:19] <icecube45> bz, i can connect fine using localhost
[01:19] <icecube45> and using the internal ip
[01:19] <bz> icecube45: then it's your router
[01:19] <Salacious> blackshirt, in php you can do chmod, well I get operation not permitted
[01:19] <icecube45> im set outside my firewall
[01:19] <icecube45> this only occurs with ubuntu
[01:19] <icecube45> my windows computers dont have this problem
[01:19] <icecube45> can anything be blocking the connection
[01:19] <bz> icecube45: what address are you listening on?
[01:20] <icecube45> its port 25565
[01:20] <bz> address, not port
[01:20] <blackshirt> okey,
[01:20] <icecube45> like my public ip?
[01:20] <bz> like what address is it listening on?
[01:20] <icecube45> <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:20] <icecube45> it should be
[01:21] <CIDR> Just can't get diablo 3 playable in wine
[01:21] <bz> so maybe listen on <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:21] <icecube45> i set the config not to bind to an ip
[01:21] <blackshirt> I think apache on ubuntu was running as a normal user...ie, www-data user,
[01:21] <icecube45> so it becomes flexable
[01:21] <bz> so, <IP_ADDRESS> is what you want
[01:21] <icecube45> ill try
[01:21] <icecube45> then check back in
[01:21] <rinzler> icecube45: check your router's port forwarding.
[01:21] <icecube45> rinzler
[01:21] <rinzler> ?
[01:21] <icecube45> im set outside my firewall
[01:21] <bz> rinzler: scroll up, got nothing to do with forwarding
[01:22] <rinzler> bz: I don't see why?
[01:22] <icecube45> <IP_ADDRESS> right?
[01:22] <bz> wesh
[01:22] <icecube45> i cant scroll up in weechat
[01:23] <daniel_6684> Good day. I have a question about the Heads-Up Display on my 12.04 LTS....
[01:23] <rinzler> if canyouseeme.com can't see you, it's cause his public device isn't listening and passing packets. correct?
[01:23] <icecube45> bz, launching now
[01:23] <bz> icecube45: gogogogo
[01:23] <lolly> someone knows how to use disk?
[01:23] <lolly> fdisk*
[01:23] <ghostchick> lolly,  what you need to do?
[01:24] <icecube45> bz, bootedup, canyouseeme cant see me
[01:24] <bz> lolly: if you need to ask, you prolly shouldn't mess with it
[01:24] <daniel_6684> Whenever I try to go looking for applications, I hit my <ALT> key and it appears, but there are no applications whatsoever on my HUD, so where are they?
[01:24] <icecube45> bz, should i possibly post my netstat -ltn?
[01:24] <lolly> to create NTFS so i can install win7
[01:24] <bz> icecube45: sure
[01:24] <ghostchick> lolly,  use gparted
[01:24] <bz> icecube45: i assume that the server's running on the same machine you're typing on right now?
[01:24] <icecube45> yes bz
[01:25] <lolly> ghostchick: i cant
[01:25] <icecube45> bz, here is my netstat -ltn
[01:25] <icecube45> tcp6       0      0 :::25565                :::*                    LISTEN
[01:25] <bz> no god no don't
[01:25] <icecube45> dont worry
[01:25] <icecube45> only pasted the one line
[01:25] <bz> ok, what about the other lines?
[01:25] <icecube45> ah kk
[01:25] <icecube45> ill go 2 paste
[01:25] <daniel_6684> Whenever I try to go looking for applications, I hit my <ALT> key and it appears, but there are no applications whatsoever on my HUD, so where are they?
[01:25] <bz> excellent idea
[01:25] <Salacious> so we still dont have an answer on making apache allow me to use chmod in php? like how do you change the user?
[01:26] <laumonier> hi why when i try to use ffmpeg to convert a mp4 to mp3 it doesnt work ?do i need some codec?and why it tells me ffmpeg is not supported and that i should use arista?is it a bug? thx for answer
[01:26] <daniel_6684> Whenever I try to go looking for applications, I hit my <ALT> key and my Heads-Up Display (HUD) appears, but there are no applications whatsoever listed. Where are they?
[01:26] <escott> lolly, you don't need to create an ntfs partition. you just need to create free space to install windows into
[01:26] <ghostnik11> Hi I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on hp pavilion dvd6 and a problem comes up saying compiz isn't working and I need to update the packages
[01:27] <icecube45> bz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072325/
[01:27] <neteffect> i wonder how to install flash
[01:27] <Linux_Guy> ghostnik11, you actually got to the bios to make it boot and install?
[01:27] <Linux_Guy> I've not been able to get that far, it seems to "skip" it
[01:28] <ghostnik11> Linux_guy: yeah it installed but for some reason I can't get into the main part of Ubuntu where I see the home screen
[01:28] <daniel_6684> Whenever I try to go looking for applications, I hit my <ALT> key and my Heads-Up Display (HUD) appears, but there are no applications whatsoever listed. Where are they?
[01:28] <quixotedon> neteffect: i bet you can do it through ubuntu software center and search "flash" (without quotes)
[01:28] <bazhang> !repeat | daniel_6684
[01:28] <Linux_Guy> ghostnik11, so you can't get to synaptic. how far does it boot to?
[01:29] <neteffect> ok
[01:29] <icecube45> bz, you see that paste?
[01:29] <bz> icecube45: yeah.
[01:29] <icecube45> k
[01:29] <bz> icecube45: can we do an experiment?
[01:29] <icecube45> sure bz
[01:29] <bz> icecube45: just wanna make sure your ports are being fwded correctly
[01:29] <icecube45> k
[01:29] <ghostnik11> Linux_guy: wait your telling this isn't just a couple end users problems with the new version of Ubuntu.  Nope can't get to synaptic I was going to ask how can I tell it to boot into low video mode that doesn't use compiz and uses only 2d and metacity
[01:30] <icecube45> okay sure bz, whatever u say
[01:30] <bz> icecube45: so on the minecraft machine, nc -l <IP_ADDRESS> 10012
[01:30] <Linux_Guy> ghostnik11,  as far as how widespread I do not know. you're the first to me, but that's just going by my experience
[01:31] <bz> icecube45: don't sigterm it
[01:31] <Linux_Guy> ghostnik11,  if you can get the 2d version working fine, then I would think you could use that mode to grab compiz,. though it depends on your system specs I would also imagine
[01:31] <icecube45> sigterm?
[01:31] <bz> control-c
[01:31] <icecube45> ah kk
[01:31] <icecube45> well, its doing whatever
[01:31] <icecube45> whats it ment to do :3
[01:32] <bz> icecube45: check your query window for a sec
[01:32] <icecube45> yes?
[01:32] <icecube45> nothing new bz
[01:32] <icecube45> still doing whatever
[01:32] <ghostnik11> Linux_guy: it keeps trying to run compiz but it wont work. Its and amd processor with 1gb of ram, how can I get it to login screen when during installation I told it to automatically log me in
[01:33] <icecube45> bz: how long is this ment to take exactly?
[01:33] <Linux_Guy> I'm not too familiar with 12.04, but I know exactly where it is in the older 10.04
[01:33] <bz> icecube45: open up another term, then: echo "it works" | nc <insert your minecraft server ip> 10012
[01:34] <daniel_6684> Whenever I try to go looking for applications, I hit my <ALT> key and my Heads-Up Display (HUD) appears, but there are no applications whatsoever listed. Where are they?
[01:34] <icecube45> bz
[01:34] <daniel_6684> The https://help.ubuntu.com/ is no help/
[01:34] <icecube45> should i use the internal or external ip
[01:34] <icecube45> for the ip here
[01:34] <bz> external ip, of course
[01:34] <Linux_Guy> ghostnik11,  it is administration > login screen
[01:34] <bz> unless you're happy with playing single-player minecraft
[01:34] <blackshirt> hi quixotedon, ... Nice meet you here wkwkkw
[01:34] <bz> :p
[01:34] <Linux_Guy> that will let you select auto login or not
[01:34] <icecube45> bz
[01:34] <icecube45> im sorry, but could u do a paste of that command
[01:35] <icecube45> weechat doesnt handle copying well
[01:35] <daniel_6684> The https://help.ubuntu.com tells me what SHOULD be there, but not how to troubleshoot the Heads-Up Display.
[01:35] <bz> icecube45: echo "it works" | nc <external ip> 10012
[01:35] <ghostchick> ghostnik11,  /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[01:35] <icecube45> echo "it works" | nc    │ aaas
[01:35] <quixotedon> blackshirt: what's up my master? :)
[01:35] <icecube45> oops
[01:35] <ghostnik11> Linux_guy: I can get to administration. Or the main window for that
[01:35] <icecube45> sorry
[01:35] <ghostchick> ghostnik11, should tell you if your hardware can run or not unity 3d
[01:35]  * Linux_Guy agrees with ghostchick
[01:35] <ghostnik11> Ghostchick: yeah but I can't get to terminal
[01:36] <Linux_Guy> control + alt + F2
[01:36] <bz> i prefer ttyS0
[01:36] <icecube45> bz, done
[01:36] <ghostnik11> Linux_guy: meant to say I can't get to administration
[01:36] <bz> icecube45: works?
[01:36] <icecube45> what shold happen
[01:36] <bz> icecube45: check the window that had "nc -l <IP_ADDRESS> 10012"
[01:37] <icecube45> nothings there bz
[01:37] <mrbean> hey how can I install xbmc on a 32 bit ubunti os
[01:37] <bz> icecube45: seriously? not even an "it works"?
[01:37] <icecube45> nope
[01:37] <mrbean> Im using an old version of xbmc but its only 64 bit
[01:37] <bz> what did you type in?
[01:37] <icecube45> is that bad ... :/
[01:37] <icecube45> echo "it works" | nc <IP_ADDRESS> 10012
[01:37] <bz> no man, the other window
[01:37] <Linux_Guy> mrbean have you looked at the xbmc site? sometimes they show how
[01:37] <bz> nc -l ...
[01:38] <icecube45> ah
[01:38] <icecube45> 2 secs
[01:38] <mrbean> yeah
[01:38] <icecube45> nc -l <IP_ADDRESS> 10012
[01:38] <icecube45> is my networking seriously messed up?
[01:38] <ghostnik11> Ghostchick, Linux_guy: tells me its unable to run display I think its due to fact that I am trying to use my tv as display monitor because screen hinges on laptop is broken
[01:38] <ghostchick> mrbean,  google for a webupd8 tutorial on  xmbc
[01:39] <icecube45> bz, using my internal ip on the echo it works thing, it works fine
[01:39] <icecube45> just with my external it doesnt work
[01:39] <bz> icecube45: yeah, then you have a forwarding issue, bro
[01:39] <Linux_Guy> ghostnik11,  have you tried a smaller monitor rather than the tv?
[01:39] <icecube45> bz: it shouldnt be that tho
[01:39] <ghostchick>  ghostnik11 , on which session you are of ubuntu, unity 2d?
[01:39] <icecube45> bz: all my other computers are fowarding fine
[01:39] <bz> rinzler was actually right
[01:40] <bz> icecube45: how do you know that?
[01:40] <icecube45> bz: ive tested them multiple times
[01:40] <bz> how?
[01:40] <mrbean> oh crap
[01:40] <icecube45> bz: running servers on them
[01:40] <mrbean> sorry it was SPICE
[01:40] <mrbean> not xbmc
[01:40] <icecube45> bz: they just dont have the capacity to run them, thats y i want this one to work
[01:41] <ghostnik11> Is there a way I can tell it in terminal to use metacity or 2d. Linux_guy: don't have smaller monitor just my flat screen tv its a Sony. Ghostchick: I told it to auto log me in and I think it tried to log me in in unity.  Right now I am using my cell phone to talk via irc
[01:41] <bz> icecube45: so they can't run minecraft, but you tested them by running minecraft?
[01:41] <icecube45> bz: do i need to have eth0 or eth1 enabled to make this work or anything
[01:41] <icecube45> bz: i ran a server on them, its jsut supppeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrr laggy
[01:41] <icecube45> bz: and running the server ate all my ram, it ended up crashing my comp
[01:41] <bz> icecube45: yeah, welcome to java
[01:41] <icecube45> xD
[01:42] <icecube45> bz: i have one theory
[01:42] <bz> icecube45: it's a forwrding issue; check your router
[01:42] <icecube45> bz: i checked it
[01:42] <bz> icecube45: do any of the other comps run nix?
[01:42] <icecube45> bz: should be fine
[01:42] <icecube45> bz: no they dont
[01:42] <icecube45> bz: windows Xp and 7
[01:42] <mrbean> hello?
[01:43] <icecube45> bz: its very strange
[01:43] <bz> icecube45: it's not, it's quite obvious
[01:43] <bz> icecube45: double check your forwarding
[01:43] <icecube45> bz: i have, jsut now
[01:43] <bz> icecube45: how?
[01:43] <icecube45> bz: <IP_ADDRESS>, gets me to router page, overlooked my port fowarding, checked my interla ip
[01:44] <icecube45> bz: do i need eth1 or eth0 runnign or anything to get this working, my /etc/networking or whatever uses lo
[01:44] <bz> icecube45: wat
[01:44] <bz> icecube45: lo is loopback, you wouldn't even be able to touch it from another box on your lan if you only had lo
[01:45] <icecube45> bz: is this my problem?
[01:45] <AndyKing> hi
[01:45] <bz> icecube45: didn't you say that you are able to do the nc -l trick over lan?
[01:45] <icecube45> bz: i also get a thing when starting up saying waiting for network configurationg
[01:45] <bz> icecube45: ok, pastebin ifconfig -a
[01:45] <icecube45> bz: k
[01:46] <icecube45> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072349/
[01:46] <AndyKing> when i run a program compiled with wxwidget tools, a error like ' Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.' occurs
[01:46] <bz> icecube45: eth2 is up
[01:46] <mrbean> help
[01:47] <icecube45> bz: so....?
[01:47] <bz> icecube45: what're eth2 and eth0?
[01:47] <mrbean> I need to use an old verison of spice but im using a 32 bit os
[01:47] <mrbean> its for 64 bit
[01:47] <icecube45> bz: what do you mean?
[01:47] <escott> mrbean, install a 64bit os
[01:48] <mrbean> is there nothing else I could tr
[01:48] <mrbean> y
[01:48] <bz> icecube45: i mean that the nix kernel creates a new eth* entry for each physical interface; you've got more than one interface, so i'm guessing your network topology is a bit more complicated than usual
[01:48] <icecube45> bz: really?
[01:48] <randomDude> escott: running `sudo lprm` did the trick
[01:49] <icecube45> bz: want me to describe my router?
[01:49] <icecube45> bz: router is connected to a thing called nettopia, or vise versa, and that is connected to the phone lines
[01:49] <escott> randomDude, lprm should work without sudo for an lpadmin member
[01:49] <Pad22> question: Everytime I have my ubuntu box's networking up, all the machines (including ubuntu) ping spikes from 9-10ms to 500+ms .... When the machine is off, or interface down, everything is OK.
[01:49] <Pad22> Any ideas?
[01:49] <Pad22> I'm starting to think it's hardware related.
[01:50] <escott> mrbean, you could use a 64bit simulator, or work it out on pencil and paper
[01:50] <icecube45> bz?
[01:50] <bz> icecube45: doh
[01:50] <mrbean> ok thanks gtg
[01:50] <escott> Pad22, whats the network topology
[01:51] <mrbean> sorry
[01:51] <bz> icecube45: what port do you use for mc?
[01:51] <icecube45> bz: um....?
[01:51] <icecube45> bz: 25565
[01:51] <icecube45> bz: the default for mc
[01:51] <bz> icecube45: ok, "nc -l <IP_ADDRESS> 25565" on the
[01:51] <Pad22> DSL -> Asus RT-n16 out to an HTPC and a secondary switch where I have a desktop and ubuntu connected
[01:52] <bz> icecube45: on the mc server box, then `echo "it works" | nc <IP_ADDRESS> 25565" ` some other box
[01:52] <bz> or maybe i could do that
[01:52] <icecube45> bz could u?
[01:52] <icecube45> and bz
[01:52] <icecube45> server is up, should i shut it down?
[01:52] <bz> icecube45: um, yeah.
[01:53] <icecube45> bz kk
[01:53] <icecube45> running what u told me
[01:53] <Pad22> I'm running icmp pings from the desktop (windows) constantly watching the response time.... I thought it was due to IPv6, so I moved the IPv6 tunnel off the ubuntu server to the router
[01:53] <Pad22> still, no change
[01:53] <icecube45> bz: the nc -l <IP_ADDRESS> 25565 is running
[01:53] <bz> icecube45: try the echo | nc command with your internal ip
[01:53] <icecube45> k
[01:53] <Pad22> even pings from the ubuntu box are listing 300ms+
[01:54] <escott> Pad22, what about pings from HTPC to router?
[01:54] <icecube45> bz "it works" using internal ip on echo
[01:54] <bz> icecube45: btw, what ip does your router forward port 25565 to?
[01:54] <icecube45> um
[01:54] <icecube45> bz: ?
[01:54] <bz> icecube45: i bet you've got windoze setup on a static ip
[01:55] <icecube45> bz: i dont have a static ip set on my ubuntu, i jsut want to test if it works, then im setting one
[01:55] <icecube45> bz: im porting it to <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:55] <bz> icecube45: so my previous question stands
[01:55] <icecube45> what previous question?
[01:55] <bz> icecube45: btw, what ip does your router forward port 25565 to?
[01:55] <icecube45> ah
[01:56] <icecube45> i have it set up
[01:56] <icecube45> so that its fowarded <IP_ADDRESS>, on port 25565,
[01:57] <icecube45> bz ^^^
[01:57] <bz> icecube45: can you double check that it works on windows? eg, don't touch the router; just reboot to windows, then set your new static to .2.7, then run mc
[01:57] <icecube45> bz: can i not run minecraft, but something else
[01:58] <icecube45> bz: using the same port
[01:58] <randomDude> i'm looking for a way to cause ubuntu desktops to suspend after half an hour of inactive mouse and key input when locked or at the login screen...
[01:58] <bz> icecube45: that's odd, why?
[01:58] <icecube45> bz: not enough ram to run the server
[01:58] <icecube45> bz: on my windows
[01:58] <escott> randomDude, power management settings dont let you set that
[01:58] <icecube45> bz: u can connect to it by minecraft.. its a, um... griefing tool... :3
[01:58] <bz> icecube45: but you just said you tested mc on this very box...in windows
[01:59] <randomDude> escott: in any regard?
[01:59] <ceti331> is there a command to bring up trackpad settings  in ubuntu (i'm runninngg fluxbox at the  minute)- i want to change 2finger scroll sensitivity
[01:59] <icecube45> bz: i didnt say on this box
[01:59] <icecube45> bz: windows is not installed on this box
[01:59] <bz> icecube45: mate, you got two variables then
[01:59] <escott> randomDude, mine says "suspend when inactive for" and then a dropdown with 30min as an option
[01:59] <ceti331> ok found it -
[02:00] <bz> icecube45: different box (eg different ip), and different os
[02:00] <Pad22> escott, ok, with the network up on the ubuntu box, both the windows desktop and htpc have 500ms+ pings out to the internet
[02:00] <ceti331> now my questoin is, is there a way to change 2 finger scrolling sensitivty
[02:00] <icecube45> bz: the only thing different between them is the internal ip, which i adjust if im gonna host from there
[02:00] <escott> Pad22, weird
[02:00] <icecube45> bz: and the OS
[02:00] <Pad22> escott, internally however, everything is OK .... it seems to me that there is some sort of incompatibility between the ubuntu box and the router which is causing all other machines to lag
[02:00] <Pad22> escott, yeah :)
[02:00] <escott> Pad22, clearly, but strange since both are linux boxen
[02:00] <sirriffsalot> What packages do I need when someone says I need "Qt4" to do the "make" command...?
[02:01] <icecube45> bz: should i still test?
[02:01] <Pad22> escott, yep... and I just reflashed with tomato usb to see if that would help out and set all settings back to factory
[02:01] <randomDude> escott: i believe you can see that if you are running ubuntu on a laptop... however i would like this option on desktops
[02:01] <bz> icecube45: every test you've just done for me demonstrates that it's a problem exterior to your 'buntu box
[02:02] <icecube45> bz: but it only happens on a ubuntu os
[02:02] <bz> no, it only happens on THAT box
[02:02] <icecube45> bz: no
[02:02] <icecube45> bz: when i had a different os on this box, it worked fine
[02:03] <bz> icecube45: you knwo what?
[02:03] <icecube45> bz: its just not gonna work?
[02:03] <bz> icecube45: set another one of your boxes to .2.7, then run a server on them
[02:03] <icecube45> bz: they dont have enough ram
[02:03] <escott> randomDude, install gconf-editor. im sure you will find it there
[02:04] <bz> icecube45: not sure how to help you then
[02:04] <icecube45> bz: thanks anyways
[02:04] <icecube45> bz: that may be my only option then
[02:04] <icecube45> bz: its very strange
[02:04] <icecube45> bz: quick question
[02:04] <bz> the problem resides outside of your nix box; it's got nothing to do with anything that sits inside. ubuntu sits inside.
[02:04] <icecube45> bz: whats the mininum amount of ram that is required to run ubuntu?
[02:04] <jhesketh> Howdy. If I have an upstart process (running as root) start at boot time, is there any way a user might be able to stop that process from ever starting? (eg could they add book parameter or enter an interactive boot mode etc where they could choose for that daemon not to start)
[02:04] <bz> icecube45: define 'run ubuntu'
[02:05] <bz> icecube45: heck, define your use case
[02:05] <icecube45> to run wubi
[02:05] <bz> icecube45: i can run my nix server on 30 mb of ram
[02:05] <icecube45> cool
[02:05] <icecube45> running ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop
[02:05] <bz> icecube45: wubi sounds graphical, so probably hundreds of megs of ram
[02:05] <alankila> I think around 512 MB is reasonable minimum for trying to get the desktop up
[02:05] <bz> icecube45: go with that one ^
[02:06] <icecube45> alankila: i tried that exact amount of ram
[02:06] <alankila> it'd probably work with 256 but could be pretty painful
[02:06] <trism> jhesketh: check out /etc/init/lightdm.conf which implements the text kernel argument (so the service doesn't start)
[02:06] <escott> jhesketh, you could define a special boot mode with a special boot argument and then test that argument by checking /proc/cmdline in your script....
[02:06] <bz> icecube45: although, i run icewm on my debian with 256 MB just fine
[02:06] <icecube45> alankila: it wouldnt work, it would freeze after saying prefix not defined
[02:06] <escott> jhesketh, which is what lightdm.conf does
[02:06] <icecube45> i wish i could get it to work on this computer
[02:06] <jhesketh> thanks trism, escott.. I have to go but I'll give it a try in a sec
[02:06] <icecube45> but thanks anyways
[02:06] <alankila> icecube45: "prefix not defined" means nothing to me. In any case you shuold have swapping happening so your experience of the system should be that it's slow, not that it doesn't work.
[02:07] <trism> indeed
[02:07] <icecube45> thanks anyways guys
[02:07] <jrdnn> icecub45 If you go with Lubuntu (I think Wubi should support it since it's an official ubuntu flavor now) you should only need like 64MB
[02:07] <icecube45> jrdnn: is that command line only?
[02:07] <jrdnn> icecube45* Sorry.
[02:07] <jrdnn> icecub45: No it's a GUI. About the  closest Linux there is to Windows.
[02:07] <icecube45> cool
[02:08] <icecube45> thansk anyways guys
[02:08] <icecube45> i dont think my problem is going to get solved
[02:08] <icecube45> cya
[02:08] <jhesketh> trism, escott: ah, I see what you're saying. Ok, that's cool. However what I actually want to do it stop people from ever being able to stop this script (it's a security measure)
[02:09] <escott> jhesketh, im confused then. how would they stop the script?
[02:09] <icecube45> ang around here
[02:09] <icecube45> i think im just gonna hand around
[02:10] <escott> jhesketh, don't give them root and don't give them physical access and they can't do anything you dont want
[02:10] <icecube45> if u can think of anything let me know
[02:10] <bz> icecube45: check your forwarding ;_;
[02:10] <bz> icecube45: or install windows on the mc box and check your forwarding from inside windows
[02:10] <icecube45> bz: ill check my fowarding to the end of time
[02:10] <icecube45> bz: its got no harddrive
[02:10] <icecube45> bz: so no windowws
[02:11] <bz> what is this i don't even
[02:11] <escott> !enter | icecube45
[02:11] <icecube45> Gah
[02:11] <icecube45> not again....
[02:11] <icecube45> ...,,,..
[02:11] <icecube45> oops
[02:11] <FloodBot1> icecube45: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:11] <icecube45> sorry guys, my client froze
[02:13] <icecube45> dz: the wierd thing is, my computer is using dmz
[02:14] <bz> icecube45: you mean it's sitting in a dmz?
[02:14] <icecube45> bz: i enabled dmz for its internal ip, so it is outside the NAT firewall
[02:14] <bz> icecube45: and yet not one of its ports are accessible from the outside
[02:15] <icecube45> bz: thats right
[02:15] <icecube45> bz: is there anything that can be blocking incoming connections on ubuntu?
[02:15] <bz> let's reason this out
[02:15] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: "sudo iptables -L" will tell you if iptables is set to block anything
[02:15] <bz> ports inaccessible; problem at either ubuntu or at router, no?
[02:15] <|Long|> i have 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
[02:16] <bz> icecube45: yet we already accessed your ports from an internal ip
[02:16] <bz> icecube45: so...problem can't be ubuntu, right?
[02:16] <|Long|> on ftp can someone plz point me some tips
[02:16] <icecube45> bz: its wierd
[02:16] <DarwinSurvivor> bz: it could be if he has some IP's white/black listed in iptables
[02:16] <escott> |Long|, why use ftp. there are soooo many better alternatives
[02:16] <icecube45> bz: check iptables?
[02:16] <bz> DarwinSurvivor: that would be...so so ironic and hilarious
[02:17] <bz> icecube45: yeah, check iptab
[02:17] <|Long|> escott, cause i can control all of the activities
[02:17] <escott> |Long|, and you can't with sftp?
[02:17] <icecube45> bz: command again please?
[02:17] <bz> icecube45: iptables -L as root
[02:18] <|Long|> escott, i can ssh and sftp, but not with ftp
[02:18] <phungus-> so, any ideas why a Lucid server would be unable to bind ip aliases?
[02:18] <icecube45> hmm thats wierd
[02:18] <icecube45> my securitylog on router
[02:18] <escott> |Long|, so back to the original question. if sftp is working why are you using ftp?
[02:19] <icecube45> it says Blocked by DoS protection <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:19] <icecube45> when
[02:19] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: "sudo iptables -L" will tell you if iptables is set to block anything
[02:19] <phungus-> oh good grief was using eth0.1 instead of eth0:1
[02:19] <icecube45> thats my WAN ip...
[02:19] <phungus-> duh
[02:19] <phungus-> n/m
[02:19] <|Long|> escott, becuase it echo information on irc for me to see what is going on
[02:19] <icecube45> the <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:19] <icecube45> and DoS is blocking it?
[02:19] <phungus-> 16yrs as a sysadmin and this trips me up for 20 mins
[02:19] <phungus-> lol
[02:19] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: ah, your router may have an adaptive firewall. If it detected an IP was spamming, scanning or brute forcing, it may have black-listed it.
[02:20] <icecube45> dz: ill make a paste of iptables
[02:20] <|Long|> escott, glftpd is the best and most stable ftp out there
[02:22] <icecube45> my iptables, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072390/
[02:22] <icecube45> dz: see above
[02:22] <icecube45> dz: i dont know how to read iptables... so
[02:23] <DarwinSurvivor> good grief, who set that up?
[02:24] <icecube45> uh... ubuntu
[02:24] <DarwinSurvivor> that suckers got more chains that bike shop!
[02:24] <icecube45> i havent touched iptables
[02:24] <icecube45> is that bad? :/
[02:24] <escott> looks like a standard ufw ruleset
[02:24] <DarwinSurvivor> do you use any firewall configuration tools (ufw, etc)?
[02:24] <escott> !ufw
[02:24] <DarwinSurvivor> Agree with escott, looks like ufw generated it....
[02:25] <icecube45> well
[02:25] <icecube45> i havent touched ufw either
[02:25] <icecube45> is it blocking my connections?
[02:25] <icecube45> !Ubottu
[02:25] <icecube45> thats so cool
[02:26] <icecube45> everyone needs a ubottu in their lifes
[02:26] <escott> !enter | icecube45
[02:26] <DarwinSurvivor> looks like the "ufw-not-local" chain may be causing problems.
[02:27] <icecube45> Darwin, how can i fix
[02:27] <DarwinSurvivor> as a definitive test, you can run "supo iptables --flush" to disable the firewall
[02:27] <cyphase> i have dual monitors, one 1440x900, one 1280x1024. is there a tool i can use to create a wallpaper by combining two images? i can do it in gimp, but preferably there's something simpler
[02:28] <DarwinSurvivor> I wouldn't recommend running without a firewall with DMZ enabled, it leaves your computer completely unprotected from the internet
[02:28] <DarwinSurvivor> !polls | cyphase
[02:28] <icecube45> well, worth a shot
[02:28] <wardrop> Does anyone know how to get the total size of a directory via the command line? `du` seemed like the perfect tool, but it counts size on disk instead of actual file size. The problem with size on disk is it changes depending on the cluster size of the file system, hence comparing two sets of files in this manner is unreliable.
[02:28] <escott> cyphase, gimp would be up there on the simplicity scale. also your image needs to be 1440 x1924
[02:28] <icecube45> darwin, can u post it again please
[02:28] <icecube45> weechat doesnt let me scroll up
[02:29] <icecube45> !ubottu | icecube45
[02:29] <cyphase> DarwinSurvivor, i wasn't taking a poll, i was asking if there was a tool more focused on my goal. nor did i ask for "the best" tool :)
[02:29] <icecube45> thats so cool
[02:29] <escott> wardrop, you could use ls and awk
[02:30] <wardrop> escott: Got an example? I'm not quite an uber guru yet
[02:30] <icecube45> DarwinSurvivor: please repeat that iptables command, i missed it
[02:30] <DarwinSurvivor> cyphase: sorry, we don't have a bang-command for "recommendations", so the "polls" one gets used quite a bit. The #ubuntu channel is for support issues (broken things), you'll probably have better luck in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:30] <cyphase> DarwinSurvivor, fair enough, that did cross my mind :)
[02:30] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: sudo iptables --flush
[02:31] <cyphase> thanks
[02:31] <icecube45> and to turn it back on?
[02:31] <DarwinSurvivor> wardrop: look in "man du" for options that may allow you to get the "true" size instead of the "disk" size.
[02:31] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: run gufw and it should re-enable it.
[02:31] <jrdnn> warpdrop: Try the -A parameter for actual filesystem size instead of disk
[02:31] <jrdnn> wardrop* Sorry
[02:32] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: is there any particular reason you are using DMZ, or is it just for testing/debugging?
[02:32] <icecube45> thanks
[02:32] <escott> wardrop, http://unstableme.blogspot.com/2009/11/sum-of-numbers-in-file-unix.html
[02:32] <icecube45> well
[02:32] <icecube45> long story
[02:32] <escott> wardrop, so ls -s | awk '{s+=$1} END {print s}'
[02:33] <escott> wardrop, but du --apparent-size is easier
[02:34] <bz> icecube45: you realize that i'm 'bz' and not 'dz', right? that's pretty much a guarantee that i won't see your messages
[02:34] <wardrop> escott: Well spotted on the --apparent-size attribute. Didn't see that one in the manual.
[02:34] <icecube45> bz: i know
[02:34] <icecube45> bz: it was a while up there
[02:34] <bz> holy what my god so many rules
[02:34] <icecube45> bz: typo
[02:34] <escott> wardrop, only because it happened to be at the top of the man page. im tooo lazy to scroll :)
[02:34] <bz> icecube45: iptables -F as root
[02:34] <icecube45> bz: why?
[02:35] <DarwinSurvivor> bz: already have him running --flush
[02:35] <bz> DarwinSurvivor: nice nice
[02:35] <icecube45> what he said
[02:35] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: "-F" is the same as "--flush"
[02:35] <wardrop> escott: haha, nice
[02:35] <icecube45> k
[02:35] <icecube45> lets hope this works
[02:35] <icecube45> bz: starting server up..
[02:36] <bz> icecube45: gogogogogo
[02:36] <icecube45> bz: comon.... please work
[02:36] <icecube45> bz: nope.avi no go
[02:36] <icecube45> bz: WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS
[02:36]  * icecube45 goes and weeps in a corner
[02:37] <bz> icecube45: chill. try the nc -l diagnostic again
[02:37] <escott> icecube45, please cut down on the commentary. look back over the last hour and you probably account for 50% of the traffic in channel. it makes it harder to help others
[02:37] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: and can you confirm that "sudo iptables -L" no looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072408/
[02:38] <bz> escott: /ignore
[02:38] <icecube45> Darwin
[02:38] <icecube45> it looks a lot better
[02:38] <icecube45> bz: what were the commands again
[02:38] <flipflop__> hello
[02:38] <icecube45> Hello!
[02:38] <bz> icecube45: on the mc box: nc -l <IP_ADDRESS> 25565
[02:38] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: "sudo iptables -L" to see the current settings, "sudo iptables -F" to disable all the rule.
[02:38] <escott> bz, ignore doesn't help others who need help and can't find the thread
[02:38] <bz> icecube45: on the non-mc box; echo "it works" | nc <external ip> 25565
[02:39] <icecube45> let me shut down the server
[02:39] <icecube45> bz: good new is, it recognizes that it is running on 25565 :2
[02:39] <icecube45> cause it wont let me do that command untill i shut down the server
[02:40] <icecube45> bz: does it have to be on a different box
[02:40] <icecube45> bz: or can i use the same box, for i only have one ubuntu box
[02:41] <bz> icecube45: could be the same box
[02:41] <bz> icecube45: obviously a different vt
[02:41] <icecube45> bz: vt?
[02:42] <jpmorgan> hi, i installed rvm from source but i can't open gems. i removed the ubuntu versions of ruby, rvm and ruby gems. yet: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072409/. should i just rm gem and gem1.8 in usr/bin/ why werent they rmed when i removed the packages and purged the config files?
[02:42] <bz> icecube45: virtual terminal. gnome-term xterm kterm kate xfceterm rxvt urxvt
[02:42] <icecube45> bz: can i use a different tab?
[02:42] <icecube45> bz: would that work fine
[02:42] <bz> icecube45: ouash
[02:42] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: yes
[02:42] <icecube45> bz: okay, command again please
[02:43] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: do you have a text editor or something you can copy-paste them into to save?
[02:43] <icecube45> Darwin
[02:43] <icecube45> its not that
[02:43] <icecube45> its that im using weechat, so it messes up the copy/paste unless on one line
[02:43] <bz> DarwinSurvivor: he's got like 5 lines of scrollback :D
[02:43] <kike> Any scary stories of migrating from 10.04 to 12.04???
[02:44] <icecube45> and that
[02:44] <gry> icecube45: ctrl + shift + select
[02:44] <icecube45> gry: select?
[02:44] <gry> left click
[02:44] <gry> drag mouse
[02:44] <icecube45> ah
[02:44] <DarwinSurvivor> ah
[02:44] <numberto> Hi guys, have some problems installing ubuntu 12.04 amd64 on a flash stick. Well, it actually installs it but after booting from it it stays at black screens doing nothing.
[02:44] <icecube45> well, still cant scroll up
[02:44] <escott> !nomodeset | numberto
[02:44] <bz> icecube45: nc -l <IP_ADDRESS> 25535
[02:44] <icecube45> done
[02:45] <bz> or was it 25565
[02:45] <gry> icecube45: pageUp doesn't work?
[02:45] <icecube45> other command please
[02:45] <icecube45> 25565
[02:45] <numberto> escott: thanks
[02:45] <icecube45> oi! it does, thanks gry
[02:45] <bz> icecube45: echo "it works" | nc <IP_ADDRESS> 25565
[02:45] <icecube45> gry, since u know about weechat
[02:45] <icecube45> how can i go to a different tab
[02:45] <icecube45> like switching from here to a privte message and back
[02:46] <icecube45> bz: trying
[02:46] <gry> icecube45: do you have channel list plugin loaded -- do you see a list of channels at the left?
[02:46] <icecube45> gry: on the bottem right i see that i have pms i just cant access them
[02:46] <DarkNyan> I have a problem with GRUB bootloader. Anybody wanna help? They get cookies :)
[02:46] <jpmorgan> also does can anyone recommend a really good tutorials on $PATHS and symlinks
[02:46] <bz> icecube45: might wanna dial-down on slapping that enter key for escott's sake
[02:46] <DarwinSurvivor> !details | DarkNyan
[02:46] <icecube45> Sorry, really bad habbit XD
[02:47] <icecube45> sorry escott
[02:47] <icecube45> bz: nothing
[02:47] <EvilMog> I have a problem with metal as a service nodes getting stuck in comissioning even when their clocks are synch'd
[02:47] <jhesketh> escott: sorry, I've returned now... Basically I have to give them physical access. I'm trying to make a locked down live distro (off ubuntu clearly) which they boot into. They won't be given root etc. I'm just wondering if they can stop the starting of root processes or escalate themselves to root before TTY/ldm etc are started
[02:47] <EvilMog> are there any plans to make the process a little more robust?
[02:47] <escott> jpmorgan, PATH is separated by : symlinks are like hard links but can be broken and can traverse filesystems. does that cover what you need?
[02:47] <icecube45> bz: it didnt work
[02:48] <icecube45> gry: so how can i do it?
[02:48] <DarkNyan> I have a problem with the installation of 12.04 from the Desktop AMD64 Cd regarding the GRUB bootloader installation on /dev/sda and /dev/sdb which resulted in a fatal error and therefore not allowing me to access Ubuntu 12.04 which has been successfully installed on the partition /dev/sda4 build
[02:48] <DarkNyan> DarwinSurvivor
[02:48] <escott> jhesketh, stopped reading at "i have to give them physical access"... unless you plan to enable a cryptographically signed bootloader (do you have an efi system?) then they have root
[02:48] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: what's the error, and define "can't access"
[02:48] <DarkNyan> This has resulted in 2 failed installations. I am running Intel Raid Storage Technology, but I'm not completely sure it is a RAID issue.
[02:49] <jpmorgan> escott, i need a lot more than that. it makes sense but still awful putting it into practice
[02:49] <escott> DarkNyan, you mean fakeraid
[02:49] <DarkNyan> By not access, I mean not being able to boot into Ubuntu 12.04
[02:49] <icecube45> bz: the echo didnt work, i suspect it times out, for i can enter a new command now
[02:49] <escott> jpmorgan, give a specific question then
[02:49] <bz> icecube45: uh, does the other window say 'it works'?
[02:49] <icecube45> bz: nope
[02:49] <gry> icecube45: '/mouse enable' and drag mouse to left or right
[02:49] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: please be *specific*. "Nothing happens" "I get an error" "the screen goes black" "it stops responding"....
[02:49] <bz> nice
[02:50] <DarkNyan> Well right now, I need a way to install GRUB Bootloader DarwinSurvivor after a fatal error with no error details.
[02:50] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: you are being *very* vague. If you got a "fatal error" with no message, how did you know it was a "fatal error"?
[02:50] <jhesketh> escott: yeah I realise they can boot other systems etc, a signed bootloader is not viable. We have to assume they will boot the live USB - quite a large assumption but we are aware of the consequences of it. Other than that assumption though, is it safe to say they can't get root without rebooting?
[02:51] <escott> DarkNyan, if at all possible don't use fakeraid. if you have to use fakeraid then in some limited configurations it will work as a boot device, but its limited
[02:51] <DarkNyan> @DarwinSurvivor, it says Fatal Error as a error prompt. Nothing else.
[02:51] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: and is that what you get when installing, or when trying to boot afterwards?
[02:51] <DarkNyan> When installing.
[02:52] <DarkNyan> The last part of the installation I mean specifically.
[02:52] <escott> jhesketh, sure. the fewer permissions you give them in the logged in system the better because it reduces the number of privilege escalation attacks they can make
[02:52] <icecube45> Bz: ubuntu crashed
[02:52] <aman_> can someone help me with a sound related issue on 12.04
[02:52] <bz> icecube45: nice
[02:52] <apolo444> Hello
[02:52] <icecube45> Rstarting
[02:52] <aman_> can someone help me with a sound related issue on 12.04?????
[02:53] <escott> jpmorgan, is there a specific situation that isn't working the way you expect it to?
[02:53] <jpmorgan> escott, i am nt at a point where i can intelligently ask a question. i see what it does. i just don't know how to do it myself. the other day i installed homebrew on my mac and and it broke my usr local so i moved it to opt. but the usr local paths and manpaths were still there
[02:53] <icecube45> But bz, there was no, it works
[02:53] <gry> aman_: only if you ask with all the details, please :-)
[02:53] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: have you verified the installation media ("check this disk for defects" when booting off of it)?
[02:53] <aman_> yes, i have no sound basically, i;ve reinstalled all the drivers as well still nothing
[02:53] <jhesketh> escott: Yep, hoping to give them very few permissions. But we also want a logging program to run as root, and I'm just wondering - as it's an upstart daemon - if there is a way a user might stop this. (for example, by interactively booting and choosing not to start that daemon)
[02:53] <DarkNyan> If the amount of people asking questions is overwhelming you, I'm always happy to wait :)
[02:53] <apolo444> Hello
[02:53] <gry> hi apolo444
[02:53] <jpmorgan> and i couldnt get homebrew to do anything in opt. then i moved it again to home
[02:53] <DarkNyan> DarwinSurvivor, I checked before, lemme check again.
[02:54] <DarkNyan> Brb.
[02:54] <aman_> gry:  yes, i have no sound basically, i;ve reinstalled all the drivers as well still nothing
[02:54] <escott> jhesketh, they could reboot to init=/bin/bash, remove the logging program and reboot again
[02:54] <icecube45> Now, bz, is it just not gonna work?
[02:54] <gry> aman_: I suspect people would wonder what ubuntu version you're using and what hardware you have
[02:54] <escott> jpmorgan, you had a binary which wasn't working in a particular path?
[02:54] <apolo444> Please help to install ubuntu 12.04
[02:55] <icecube45> Gry: what were u saying about /mouse enable 2 me
[02:55] <KM0201> apolo444: what problem are you having?
[02:55] <gry> apolo444: what is the problem please ?
[02:55] <ghostchick> aman_,  pulsecontrol and alsamixer tried those?
[02:55] <gry> icecube45: '/mouse enable' and drag mouse to left/right to switch windows
[02:55] <icecube45> Thanks
[02:55] <apolo444> You speak spanish?
[02:55] <jpmorgan> anyway. it just want badly. and now its going badly with installing rvm from source on precise because i removed an earlier version that i dled from the ubuntu repositry and it seems the path didnt fully get removed and now i cant open rvm
[02:55] <IdleOne> !es | apolo444
[02:55] <gry> icecube45: there are some better ways via /window command but I don't use them; I click channel names in the list at the left, which you probably don't have loaded
[02:56] <icecube45> !ubottu | icecube45
[02:56] <apolo444> Gracias
[02:56] <bz> icecube45: i'm out of ideas
[02:56] <icecube45> Thanks anyways bz:
[02:56] <aman_> Using ubuntu 12.04, running hp, intel centrino 2, "/proc/asound/card1/codec#0:Codec: ATI R6xx HDMI " alsa shows no bars when i use ATI card, but for intel it does show all max.
[02:57] <escott> jpmorgan, when you say path i dont think you mean what we would mean which $PATH
[02:57] <icecube45> Bz: thanks for all ur time, care to play minecraft or anything
[02:57] <kaya> what,nwhich
[02:57] <bz> icecube45: i play quake 3 :p
[02:57] <DarkNyan> DarwinSurvivor Nope, definitely not that.
[02:57] <icecube45> Ah kk bz
[02:57] <icecube45> That i dont have
[02:57] <escott> jpmorgan, if you are installing from source a few things you should do (a) use a prefix in the ./configure step (b) use checkinstall instead of make install (c) install to /opt or /usr/local
[02:57] <jpmorgan> ok what is it then? i feel like its a rabbit hole at the moment.
[02:58] <apolo444> El canal ubuntu-es salgo sólo
[02:58] <escott> jpmorgan, im not sure what you mean by path
[02:58] <aman_>  Using ubuntu 12.04, running hp, intel centrino 2, "/proc/asound/card1/codec#0:Codec: ATI R6xx HDMI " alsa shows no bars when i use ATI card, but for intel it does show all max. NO SOUND, please help!!!
[02:58] <escott> jpmorgan, perhaps you mean residual configuration files. you can apt-get --purge program
[02:58] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: ok, can you try installing *without* using the raid setup to determine if it is raid related (and not a cpu/network/graphics/etc issue)?
[02:58] <DarwinSurvivor> !patience | aman_
[02:58] <baazigar> hello, i just started my ubuntu and my mouse doesnt move
[02:59] <DarkNyan> @DarwinSurvivor I didn't use the RAID in the first place unless its automatically included with the Desktop AMD64 CD.  Sorry for misinforming you if I did.
[02:59] <jpmorgan> i did purge when i removed ruby but this still is on the machine gem
[02:59] <jpmorgan> bash: /usr/bin/gem: /usr/bin/ruby1.8: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[02:59] <quixotedon> baazigar: have you done updating the os?
[02:59] <aman_> ok i'll wait
[02:59] <baazigar> quixotedon : i did it 3 weeks ago
[02:59] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: so you are not using the Intel Raid you mentioned earlier?
[03:00] <icecube45> Bz: new error..
[03:00] <bz> icecube45: go aehad
[03:00] <escott> jpmorgan, that is just saying that /usr/bin/gem is installed and the first line of that program is #!/usr/bin/ruby1.8 which is not a valid executable. so "bad interpreter" for /usr/bin/gem
[03:00] <DarkNyan> I said it was a possibility because I have Intel Rapid Storage Technology but it doesn't seem to be why in my own opinion.
[03:00] <quixotedon> baazigar: before it was working fine?
[03:00] <DarwinSurvivor> aman_: while you wait, check your hardware (wireless mouse batteries, touchpade disable switch, cords, etc)
[03:00] <apolo444> En ubuntu es salgo yo sólo
[03:00] <jpmorgan> but i have neither installed through the repos
[03:00] <DarwinSurvivor> !es | apolo444
[03:00] <quixotedon> !es| apolo444
[03:00] <baazigar> quixotedon : it worked fine yesterday, but today,i dont know why it jammed
[03:01] <icecube45> Bz: "the system network services are not compatable with this version"
[03:01] <jpmorgan> and i just installed them in my home folder
[03:01] <gry> apolo444:    /join #ubuntu-es
[03:01] <apolo444> Ok
[03:01] <DarwinSurvivor> aman_: oops wrong name, please ignore
[03:01] <bz> icecube45: what changed?
[03:01] <DarwinSurvivor> baazigar: while you wait, check your hardware (wireless mouse batteries, touchpade disable switch, cords, etc)
[03:01] <baazigar> quixotedon : oh wow its working now, it was a temporary problem after i booted
[03:02] <quixotedon> baazigar: yeah, i think so, glad it works now.. :)
[03:02] <icecube45> Well, i have no internet connection, and there is no wireless thingy bz
[03:02] <jhesketh> escott: ok, so if they went into /bin/bash for their init they could remove it. However it's a non-persistent live usb so when rebooting their changes should be lost. That said, would setting the init parameter allow them to start other serivces themselves from /bin/bash etc. eg use init=/bin/bash and then start ldm.
[03:02] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: by "have" do you mean "is connected", "is being used" or "is sitting on the table next to me"?
[03:02] <escott> jpmorgan, if you are confused about what program you are executing use the tool "which" "which gem" will tell you the path to the gem executable "ls -l `which gem`" will tell you what that points to if it is a symlink
[03:03] <bz> icecube45: no, i mean what have you changed with the new system? did you update, upgrade, delete, modify somethin?
[03:03] <icecube45> I rebooted..Bz
[03:03] <escott> jhesketh, they could init=/bin/bash and then modify the system, and then resume the boot
[03:03] <DarkNyan> @DarwinSurvivor, I will google and check.
[03:03] <jhesketh> escott: ah I see
[03:03] <escott> jhesketh, they could change root= argument, let it fail to busybox, then find root, make changes...
[03:04] <bz> icecube45: hm, ifconfig -a?
[03:04] <jhesketh> escott: hmm, ok then.. thanks for that. I don't suppose there is a way to limit the boot loader so they can't modify any of these parameters?
[03:04] <jhesketh> (I'm guessing that's not easy)
[03:04] <icecube45> Well i cant paste3 it bz
[03:04] <aman_> yes Darwin, I'm trying. I've tried every post there is on line. Reinstalled everything.
[03:04] <escott> jhesketh, for a usb system there probably is, but i dont know what it would be
[03:04] <bz> icecube45: no need, just read off the device names
[03:04] <jpmorgan> escott, $ which gem /usr/bin/gem $ gem -v bash: /usr/bin/gem: /usr/bin/ruby1.8: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[03:04] <bz> icecube45: eth0, eth2, ham0, and lo, right?
[03:04] <jhesketh> escott: ok, no worries. Thanks very much for all your help :-)
[03:04] <icecube45> Lo, ham0, eth2, eth0
[03:05] <DarkNyan> DarwinSurvivor It is installed but not being used on my computer.
[03:05] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: what is it, a pci-e card, a motherboard-embedded controller, etc?
[03:05] <escott> jpmorgan, run "head `which gem`" you will see the first line is "#!/usr/bin/ruby1.8" run "ls -l /usr/bin/ruby1.8" and you will see it doesn't exist
[03:06] <bz> icecube45: so, as root, "dhclient eth2"
[03:06] <DarkNyan> DarwinSurvivor It is a Firmware RAID that is marketed with Intel Harddrives.
[03:06] <icecube45> Im trying rebooting..
[03:06] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: ok, so part of the motherboard/bios then. Have you confirmed that it is disabled in the BIOS?
[03:06] <icecube45> Bz: im rebooting
[03:07] <DarkNyan> DarwinSurvivor I could not find any trace of it in the BIOs + The Intel Raid Storage Technology Panel says it is not enabled.
[03:07] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: what "panel". is it a physical panel, a windows config panel, a bios page, etc?
[03:07] <DarkNyan> DarwinSurvivor: It is a software panel.
[03:08] <jpmorgan> when i ran head all i got was an ">" and yes ruby1.8 doesn't exist
[03:08] <escott> jpmorgan, you cannot run /usr/bin/gem, because it needs /usr/bin/ruby1.8 (that is the specified interpreter) and you have uninstalled it. you might be able to run /usr/local/bin/ruby /usr/bin/gem, but unless /usr/local/bin/ruby is a ruby1.8 interpreter your /usr/bin/gem is not tested to work with it
[03:08] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: a software panel *where*?
[03:08] <DarkNyan> DarwinSurvivor: In my Windows Tray panel.
[03:08] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: in a windows install, in another linux install, etc?
[03:09] <icecube45> Bz upon booting, it says, booting system without full network configuration
[03:09] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: ok, then there is a good chance it is disabled in WINDOWS, but the motherboard is still using it!
[03:09] <bz> icecube45: dhclient eth2
[03:09] <DarkNyan> Well I can't find any trace of it in the BIOS, unless SATA mode is supposed to be in IDE instead of AHCPI, I have no idea how to disable it. DarwinSurvivor
[03:10] <arall> icecube45: what's in your /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:10] <escott> jpmorgan, if your attitude is "damn the torpedoes" and you want to use YOUR ruby interpreter to run the system provided gem, then you can use update-alternatives to establish a symlink from /usr/bin/ruby1.8 to /usr/local/bin/ruby, or just slam the symlink in manually (discouraged). best course of action though is to uninstall gem, and install /usr/local/bin/gem that is compatible with /usr/local/bin/ruby
[03:10] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: how many hard drives do you have installed?
[03:10] <icecube45> Arall uh
[03:11] <DarkNyan> @DarwinSurvivor 1 harddrive with one 540GB Partition for Windows, and a 40GB partition for Ubuntu as well as  15GB System Reserved partition.
[03:11] <jpmorgan> point is gem is not installed: sudo apt-get remove --purge gem  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree    Reading state information... Done Package gem is not installed, so not removed
[03:11] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: you mentioned there as an sda and an sdb, is that correct?
[03:11] <icecube45> Arall, can i get back 2 u, got 2 quickly do something
[03:11] <escott> !find /usr/bin/gem
[03:11] <escott> jpmorgan, ^^^
[03:11] <arall> icecube45: OK
[03:11] <jpmorgan> escott, i dont want to run the system provided gem. but the system is not allowing me to run the rvm one
[03:12] <escott> jpmorgan, because /usr/local/bin is appearing in $PATH after /usr/bin. so it finds /usr/bin/gem and says "I found gem"
[03:12] <DarkNyan> @DarwinSurvivor I tried sda but it is not a partition with any data on it, it is recognized as the harddrive. I'm going to try to reinstall with GRUB in it's own partition.
[03:13] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: from what I've read, intel's fakeraid (which appears to be what you have) is notorious for being a PITA to get working correctly, so I'm not surprised you are having troubles
[03:13] <escott> jpmorgan, in any case uninstall rubygems package, and maybe flip your PATH ordering around to export PATH=/usr/local/bin:$PATH
[03:13] <RED_> hey I got a little problems, I tried install Wine via PPA, it downloaded the packages fine and all that stuff, I get a pop up for the MS fonts thingy. I cannot accept it clicking ok doesnt do any thing nor can I type in the terminal, I exited the terminal. now whenever I try install any thing via apt-get the MS font thing pops up. any one know how to get rid of it?
[03:14] <DarkNyan> @DarwinSurvivor, I am probably wrong about RAID then. Intel Matrix RAID [Intel Rapid Storage Technology] is a firmware RAID and is out of control of the software in Windows. Any way to disable it? I'm trying to google it but I can't find anything useful.
[03:14] <DarwinSurvivor> RED_: PPA's are 3rd party repositories and as such are not supporting in the #ubuntu help channel. You will need to contact the owner of the PPA directly for assistance
[03:14] <RED_> yea I know that any way to force quit apt-get?
[03:15] <RED_> or just accept the dam thing
[03:15] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1815640
[03:15] <escott> jpmorgan, hopefully that all makes sense. im off to bed
[03:15] <jpmorgan> escott, i will try that. thanks. but starting from the beginning do you know of great tutorial. a blind person cant talk about what he doesnt see.
[03:16] <jpmorgan> escott, and good night
[03:16] <Jordan_U> DarkNyan: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[03:16] <DarwinSurvivor> RED_: killing the package manager (apt-get) during an installation is VERY dangerous
[03:16] <escott> jpmorgan, i would have to point you to either tldp or the debian administrators handbook
[03:16] <DarkNyan> @Jordan_U I'm in Windows as @DarwinSurvivor knows.
[03:16] <RED_> yea well I can't do anything else unless I can accept the agreement
[03:16] <escott> jpmorgan, but you are pulling in a half dozen concepts at once in this. so you just have to struggle with them until they make sense.
[03:17] <RED_> I can clean up a dirty install
[03:17] <DarwinSurvivor> RED_: can you post a screenshot?
[03:17] <jpmorgan> escott, i will check those out.and yes i make a mess of things at first. thn i somehow put it back together. im very messy. and again thanks for directing me to the right path.
[03:17] <RED_> sure
[03:17] <rhizmoe> how come terminal is tending to hide from focus via alt-tab?
[03:17] <rhizmoe> it's selectable, but it doesn't come up
[03:17] <rhizmoe> s/up/forward
[03:17] <Jordan_U> DarkNyan: Can you boot from a Ubuntu LiveCD?
[03:18] <RED_> well var is locked atm how do I unlock it?
[03:18] <DarkNyan> @DarwinSurvivor I'm not sure if this applies to me because A. I have no option to disable RAID through my BIOS B. Intel RAID is Firmware, not Hardware C. He seems to be attempting to install to another disk. /Tag Jordan_U
[03:19] <icecube45> Arall what was it again
[03:19] <arall> icecube45: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[03:19] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: the live-cd contains tools that can be used to test how the BIOS (firmware) is presenting the drives and hopefully get a better idea of what is happening.
[03:19] <DarkNyan> @DarwinSurvivor Sure, you want me to boot into the Desktop or Alternate CD?
[03:19] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: unfortunately, such tools are not as easy to use in windows, nor are many of the #ubuntu helpers familiar with them
[03:19] <Jordan_U> DarkNyan: Desktop.
[03:20] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: desktop if you can
[03:20] <DarkNyan> Sure, is there a builtin IRC client in the LiveCD?
[03:20] <icecube45> Arall, auto lo, newline, iface lo inet looping
[03:21] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: I believe x-chat is in it, if not, use http://webchat.freenode.net/
[03:22] <icecube45> Arall?
[03:22] <DarkNyan> Thanks, I'll BRB, if there is a overwhelming amount of help requests, I'm always happy to wait :)
[03:22] <Jordan_U> DarkNyan: Yes, but it's not great. I would recommend either going to http://webchat.freenode.net or installing xchat (which is possible froin the LiveCD environment) instead of using Empathy.
[03:22] <DarwinSurvivor> Jordan_U: he's gone
[03:23] <arall> icecube45: hold on, that gets rid of my first idea
[03:23] <icecube45> K
[03:24] <spyder83> I'm having a problem with Ubuntu 10.04 and the Intel Turbo Mode for a first gen i7 920. It won't boot. I get a kernel panic about the cpu if I leave turbo mode enabled. If I disable it, it boots just fine. Anyone have similar problems?
[03:25] <aman_> Darwin, pavucontrol and alsamixer look fine.
[03:26] <Jordan_U> spyder83: I haven't heard of a computer with a "Turbo" mode in decades :) I'm assuming this isn't the same as the old turbo buttons, so what does this actually do?
[03:26] <icecube45> Arall... Sitting here with no internet :3
[03:27] <DarkNyan_> @DarwinSurvivor @Jordan_U http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072449/
[03:27] <spyder83> Jordan: it's not. It's a feature in intel cpu's that basically allows you to bump up an extra multiplyer when proccessing get's intense
[03:27] <bz> aman_: no sound?
[03:27] <RED_> ok darwin I solved the first thingy but now after it install the software I get error code 1
[03:28] <DarwinSurvivor> RED_: which software? the wine PPA?
[03:28] <spyder83> Jordan: it's not anything you do manually. You just enable it and it increases the multiplyer by one when it needs to
[03:28] <aman_> yup bz
[03:28] <bz> aman_: mplayer an mp3 file
[03:28] <aman_> no sound
[03:28] <arall> icecube45: I missed when you first described the problem. You have no icon for wireless, right?
[03:28] <InferiorHuman> Jordan_U, goes from like 3.4 to 3.8ghz when it needs it on new ivy bridge cpu's so basically 400mhz which is nothing compared to the 1gig you can easily oc it
[03:28] <icecube45> And no connection arall
[03:28] <RED_> apt-get gives me that error
[03:28] <Jordan_U> DarkNyan_: OK, no sign of FakeRAID there. Try following this guide and post any error messages you get (if any): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#ChRoot
[03:29] <RED_> but the software is install just fine
[03:29] <bz> aman_: aplay /dev/urandom
[03:29] <Jordan_U> !bug | spyder83
[03:29] <LeJoker> Evening, #ubuntu, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to check if a certain program is listening on a particular IP?
[03:29] <aman_> cant hear anything
[03:29] <aman_> all volumes ok
[03:29] <DarkNyan_> Sure thing Jordan_U DarwinSurvivor
[03:29] <Jordan_U> spyder83: In this case, since it's a kernel panic, you want "ubuntu-bug linux".
[03:29] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan_: that shows you having *2* hard drives, a Sony 4GB and a Samsung 640GB. Is it by any chance a "hybrid" (hdd+ssd) drive?
[03:29] <LeJoker> And if neccesary, how to change that
[03:30] <bz> aman_: are your speakers on?
[03:30] <jrdnn> LeJoker: netstat?
[03:30] <RED_> DarwinSurvivor I get this error E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:30] <RED_> it install fine now tho
[03:30] <aman_> yup
[03:30] <arall> icecube45: what's the output of lspci | grep 'Network' ?
[03:30] <DarwinSurvivor> RED_: for help installing software from a PPA, you need to contact the PPA developer. If you need help with any other software (including the *official* wine version), we can help you with that
[03:30] <LeJoker> jrdnn: I have one running, how do I tell which program is which?
[03:30] <icecube45> 2 secs
[03:31] <spyder83> Jordan_U: Like submit a bug report?
[03:31] <Jordan_U> spyder83: Yes (after confirming that one hasn't been filed already).
[03:32] <spyder83> ok
[03:33] <ceti331> hi - does the 'utouch-geis' library have a commandline debug mode (e.g. display touch info)
[03:33] <jrdnn> LeJoker: lsof -Pnl -M -i4 for ipv4 or -i6 for ipv6, sudo apt-get install lsof maybe needed
[03:33] <silv3r_m00n> I am getting this make: dh_testdir: Command not found
[03:33] <silv3r_m00n> what package do I need to install
[03:34] <DarwinSurvivor> !find dh_testdir | silv3r_m00n
[03:34] <DarkNyan_> @Jordan_U Is it Linux or Linux swap/Solaris?
[03:34] <LeJoker> jrdnn: I'm new-ish to ubuntu, what does lsof do?
[03:34] <icecube45> Arall, broadcam corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[03:34] <DarwinSurvivor> LeJoker: lists all processing that are using the specified file
[03:34] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan_: did you see my question above?
[03:35] <DarwinSurvivor> LeJoker: to learn what any command does run "man _the_command's_name_here_" and it will explain it (and show how to use it)
[03:35] <DarkNyan_> No, sorry @darwin, kinda hard to see when you ask me when you don't get alerts when you are mentioned.
[03:35] <arall> icecube45: do you have b43-fwcutter installed?
[03:35] <LeJoker> DarwinSurvivor: Ah, thanks :)
[03:35] <icecube45> What arall?
[03:36] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan_: that shows you having *2* hard drives, a Sony 4GB and a Samsung 640GB. Is it by any chance a "hybrid" (hdd+ssd) drive?
[03:36] <DarkNyan_> @DarwinSurvivor, that is my USB flash drive which is loading my USB flash drive.
[03:36] <DarkNyan_> *LiveCD
[03:36] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan_: ah, that makes sense!
[03:36] <Jordan_U> DarkNyan_: Your Ubuntu partition is the one listed as just "Linux" (sda5).
[03:36] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan_: just a second, reviewing your convo from a while ago for something...
[03:36] <icecube45> Arall, this just started after a reboot
[03:37] <arall> icecube45: so your wireless was working before?
[03:37] <icecube45> Yes
[03:37] <bikcmp> was today a release day or something?
[03:37] <DarkNyan_> DarwinSurvivor Jordan_U doesn't seem to be working
[03:37] <DarkNyan_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda5 mount: can't find /dev/sda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[03:37] <bikcmp> the ubuntu mirrors seem to be going /extremely/ slow
[03:37] <DarkNyan_> Sorry, my mistake
[03:38] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan_: did you install grub to sdb by accident?
[03:38] <Jordan_U> DarkNyan_: Re-read the command you're supposed to run in step #5.
[03:38] <arall> icecube45: did you update anything before restarting?
[03:38] <icecube45> No
[03:38] <DarkNyan_> @Jordan_U @DarwinSurvivor Sorry, I forgot the /mnt @DarwinSurvivor No, I didn't install GRUB at all.
[03:39] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan_: do you remember what error you got while installing?
[03:40] <DarkNyan_> @DarwinSurvivor Fatal Error: Grub could not be installed to /dev/sd something/
[03:40] <icecube45> Arall, didnt update3
[03:40] <arall> icecube45: hm. Humor me and tell me what the output of the following is: dpkg-query -l b43-*
[03:41] <DarkNyan_> @Jordan_U Which drive do I install GRUB to? The normal Linux Sda?
[03:41] <DarwinSurvivor> !fixgrub | DarkNyan_ try the following
[03:41] <icecube45> No packages found maching b43-*
[03:41] <icecube45> Arall ^^^^
[03:41] <zjhui> hi,  i have follow the help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen  to install the xen.  But when  i  install the  xen-hypervisor-amd64 and update-grub . When i reboot the system , i can't find the xen kernel in grub
[03:41] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan_: be back in 5 minutes
[03:42] <dr_willis> DarkNyan_:  if you are booting drive sda, then yes. it goes on sda. not sda1
[03:42] <arall> icecube45: aha. sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[03:42] <DarkNyan_> @Dr_willis Doesn't work that way I believe /sda/ is a harddrive with no free space or used space.
[03:42] <taime1> Hello. I have a machine that will only boot linux (many flavors) in like 8 bit color mode.. installing nvidia drivers doesnt help at all. Windows runs fine. Any idea what it could be?
[03:42] <DarkNyan_> @DarwinSurvivor Sure, no problems.
[03:42] <dr_willis> DarkNyan_:  the mbr of the drive is a very tiny part. even if the hd is full. you can write to the mbr.
[03:43] <icecube45> Um arall, no internet connection..
[03:43] <dr_willis> DarkNyan_:  and theres no need for @ on irc....
[03:43] <arall> icecube45: lol sorry forgot you are lacking internet
[03:43] <icecube45> Ya..
[03:43] <zjhui> should i editor the grub.cfg manually ?
[03:43] <arall> icecube45: Can you plug an ethernet cable in?
[03:43] <icecube45> Yes
[03:43] <icecube45> But...
[03:43] <DarkNyan_> @dr_Willis Nope, Can;t install [/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `/dev/sda/'.]
[03:43] <icecube45> That means restarting my cop, for the battery isnt charging
[03:44] <icecube45> Comp
[03:44] <Jordan_U> DarkNyan_: '/dev/sda' not '/dev/sda/'
[03:44] <dr_willis> DarkNyan_:  thats not saying sda is full. its saying it cant find sda for some reason.
[03:44] <dr_willis> Jordan_U:  good catch
[03:44] <DarkNyan_> @Jordan_U My mistake :( Have a cookie @dr_willis I do it as a habit, sorry if that bothers you :(
[03:45] <dr_willis> seems using @ all the time .. would get very annoying.. and hurt your hand.. ;)
[03:45] <dr_willis> DarkNyan_:  use the tab key toi complete nicks..
[03:46] <DarkNyan_> Nice tip :) dr_willis
[03:46] <DarkNyan_> It looks like it works now. I'm going to try. Thanks dr_willis , DarwinSurvivor , Jordan_U
[03:46] <dr_willis> as we said @is pointless on irc. ;) and slows you down
[03:46] <dr_willis> plus @ means somthing totally differnt on IRc
[03:49] <arall> icecube45: OK. If you can access the internet on the computer with ethernet, run sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter. Otherwise, you can follow the directions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43_-_No_Internet_access
[03:50] <bz> !manners
[03:50] <DarkNyan> Thanks guys :) dr_willis DarwinSurvivor Jordan_U  You fixed everything :)
[03:50] <Jordan_U> DarkNyan: You're welcome.
[03:51] <devslash> i set up samba and created a share and restarted smbd but i can't access my share from another  computer
[03:51] <dr_willis> devslash:  you gave the user a samba password via 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' ?
[03:51] <devslash> no
[03:52] <devslash> but I'm not even getting a prompt
[03:52] <dr_willis> you set up a guest share?  tryed accessing the server via its ip#?
[03:52] <devslash> i am using its ip
[03:52] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: just got back and read the scroll-back. good to hear it's fixed!
[03:53] <dr_willis> devslash:  so what  os is accessing the share?  whats the shares name?
[03:53] <devslash> not sure what to do
[03:53] <DarkNyan> DarwinSurvivor: YAY! Just need to find the grub-customizer package now.
[03:53] <devslash> I'm trying to connect to it from a mac
[03:54] <DarkNyan> Does anyone know the Grub Customizer package name?
[03:54] <dr_willis> devslash:  can the mac ping the linux box? and i do think macs can handle nfs  shares and ssh.
[03:54] <devslash> yra
[03:54] <devslash> yea
[03:54] <dr_willis> DarkNyan:  not sure there is one in the default repos.
[03:55] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: not sure either, check out grub on http://help.ubunt.com that may help
[03:55] <DarkNyan> Coolios.
[04:06] <dr_willis> it just got real quiet... :) ...
[04:11] <devslash> I'm trying to get samba working. once i edit the configuration file, i did sudo restart smbd. is there any other service i have to restart ?
[04:12] <devslash> dr_willis: watchu talkin about
[04:12] <dr_willis> sudo service samba restart (i think, or similer)
[04:12] <dr_willis> Im not even sure you need to restart it any more these days. Many services se eyou change their configs and auto restart
[04:12] <jrdnn> devslash: 10 minutes with no messages in a channel with hundreds of people logged in?
[04:13] <dr_willis> see  if the linux box sees its own shares.   via findsmb and smbtree commands. or the file manager
[04:16] <V3NG3NC3678> Someone convince me to install ubuntu 12 or whatever the latest version is
[04:17] <dr_willis> V3NG3NC3678:  use what you want.. it dosnet matter to us. we dont get a comission.
[04:17] <V3NG3NC3678> I want to
[04:17] <dr_willis> 12.04 is the latest. 12.10 is in testing
[04:17] <V3NG3NC3678> but unity makes me want stab penciles in my eyes
[04:17] <dr_willis> get over it.. unity works very well.
[04:17] <jrdnn> V3NG3NC3678: You can use whatever theme you want, unity isn't required for Ubuntu or any other Linux distro
[04:17] <dr_willis> i got my unity tweaked very well. the hud is handy. and lenss save me a lot of time.
[04:18] <V3NG3NC3678> can I just not install it or remove it?
[04:18] <devslash> dr_willis: smbtree doesn't show anything
[04:18] <dr_willis> quicklists are also a nice feature that are only getting better
[04:18] <dr_willis> theres other desktops you can install./ this is linux. :)
[04:18] <jrdnn> sudo apt-get install kde or whatever
[04:18] <dr_willis> gnome-shell is ppopular -- it deoends on what you want
[04:18] <SwedeMike> actually, unity in the latest incarnation (12.04) works pretty well, you just have to get used to it. I've started to like to find my applications by means of pressing the windows key and then typing the name, then using cursor keys to find and then enter to select. Using the mouse is a lot more cumbersome.
[04:18] <t1m310rd> does anyone know of a way to install a repository's full contents automatically?
[04:19] <dr_willis> theres some unofficial unity tweaks/addons that hopefully get included by default in 12.10 ;)
[04:19] <V3NG3NC3678> ok I am going in DL it now
[04:19] <devslash> dr_willis i added an entry in smb.conf [share] comment=some comment path=/full/path/to/shared/folder/ browseable=yes guest_ok=no read_only=yes
[04:19] <dr_willis> saw a nice quicklists tweak that gives every apps icon a list of each window.
[04:20] <stochastic> can anyone help me mount a Canon EOS 350D camera?
[04:20] <V3NG3NC3678> Does AMrk come in here at all anymore?
[04:20] <dr_willis> devslash:  as a test. you could make a guest share, or try enableing the home share.
[04:20] <dr_willis> devslash:  about all i do these days is enable the Homes Share. and perhaps share /media/
[04:21] <devslash> is what i did correct ?
[04:22] <t1m310rd> I need to install the backtrack utities on a normal Kubuntu install, i added the repositories, but i don't really know how to install everything from them.
[04:22] <V3NG3NC3678> 17 m for DL
[04:23] <bz> asl?
[04:23] <dr_willis> devslash:  looks ok. but i always just cut and paste examples from the comnents
[04:24] <V3NG3NC3678> t1m310rd - don't bother
[04:24] <V3NG3NC3678> the kernals will not work
[04:25] <dr_willis> synaptic can show whats in a specific repo.
[04:25] <ignerious> how to remove broken or corupted installation packages???
[04:25] <dr_willis> apt-get clean      perhaps.
[04:26] <danub> how do i get a bottom bar in untiy?
[04:26] <Num83rGuy> Every time I start Ktorrent from command line or script I get errors.  http://pastebin.com/tzbJEtJL
[04:26] <danub> this autohide side bar is pissing me off
[04:26] <dr_willis> use a dock
[04:27] <dr_willis> !dock
[04:27] <dr_willis> set it to not hide. ;)
[04:27] <danub> i have to download a dock package for this?
[04:27] <V3NG3NC3678> So what is a good program that can transmit music liek a DJ over AAC?
[04:27] <danub> really?
[04:27] <V3NG3NC3678> something that is in the cloud
[04:28] <ignerious> Please help me to fix this problem http://pastebin.com/yL9mnfFf
[04:28] <dr_willis> unity is on the side.. unoficial hacks to move it.
[04:28] <danub> but there is no way to unautohide that sucker?
[04:28] <ignerious> Please help me to fix this problem http://pastebin.com/yL9mnfFf
[04:28] <dr_willis> mine dosent hide...
[04:29] <dr_willis> 12.04 default is to not hide
[04:29] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[04:29] <jrdnn> ignerious: sudo apt-get install gnome-wine-icon-theme
[04:29] <danub> dr_willis: how did you do that then? all my apps either cause it to autohide
[04:30] <dr_willis> danub:  its the default. i did nothing
[04:30] <ignerious> same error
[04:30] <ignerious> what to do
[04:30] <ignerious> how should i remove them
[04:30] <ignerious> ???
[04:30] <danub> not on mine :(
[04:30] <bindian> does any one knows the best alternative of evernote on Ubuntu (please don't suggest wine or same)
[04:30] <dr_willis> myunity has settings for it also
[04:30] <V3NG3NC3678> someone dance with me!
[04:30] <V3NG3NC3678> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULjCSK0oOlI
[04:30] <linux_is_my_hero> whats the deal with new computers from other os's not allowing linux installs?
[04:31] <linux_is_my_hero> seems like a monopoly to me
[04:31] <V3NG3NC3678> lol,.. you just noticing this?
[04:31] <babygotaface> if there is anyway to get instant notification receiving email with any mail notification script or anything like that?
[04:31] <V3NG3NC3678> try installing ubuntu on crapple
[04:31] <dr_willis> linux_is_my_hero: 4primary partions in use makes it a pain
[04:32] <danub> how do i get to perferances?
[04:32] <danub> i only have system tools
[04:32] <linux_is_my_hero> dr_willis: meaning windows 7 has 4 partitions, or ubuntu has 4?  i thought ubuntu had 2. :-(
[04:32] <ignerious> help
[04:32] <ignerious> please
[04:32] <linux_is_my_hero> dr_Willis: i feel stupid.
[04:33] <linux_is_my_hero> danub: do you have a gui?
[04:33] <ignerious> ????
[04:33] <ignerious> please
[04:34] <danub> yea, but its goofed
[04:34] <dr_willis> linux_is_my_hero:  many new pcs come with windows7 and are partioned with windows and the revovery partions to use 4 primary partitions. which makes it a real pain to install linux on the hard drivce.
[04:34] <danub> i cant even scroll the unity search results
[04:34] <linux_is_my_hero> ignerious: i just got here.  what is your problem? :-)
[04:34] <linux_is_my_hero> danub: what if you use keyboard shortcuts to bring up the tty?
[04:34] <ignerious> Please help me to fix this problem http://pastebin.com/yL9mnfFf
[04:34] <dr_willis> danub:  theres commands to totally reset unity bac to defaults
[04:35] <ignerious> see the link
[04:35] <ignerious> i have posted it
[04:35] <linux_is_my_hero> dr_willis: linux can't just format the hdd with the ubuntu file system?
[04:35] <danub> dr_willis: oh please tell me, i gotta get this fixed. this will drive me absolutely batshit
[04:35] <danub> linux_is_my_hero: EFI secure boot
[04:35] <dr_willis> linux_is_my_hero:  if you have 4 primary partitions in use.. and want to keep them all.. you  are going to have issues installing linux. since you cant make any more partitions
[04:36] <dr_willis> danub:  unity --reset  i belive is the main command.
[04:36] <danub> dr_willis: ok, ill give that a shot
[04:36] <linux_is_my_hero> dr_willis: i see...you'd have to get another hdd and pull your files over, then format the windows drive and set it up for ubuntu.
[04:36] <dr_willis> danub:  the omgubuntu or webupd8 blog site detauls  secceral commands to reset unity and compiz  and gnome back to defaults
[04:36] <dr_willis> linux_is_my_hero:  i just buy a 2nd hd and put the original somewhere  safe. ;)
[04:36] <danub> i cant do it because i get a D-BUS error :(
[04:37] <linux_is_my_hero> dr_willis: anything else, like a chip on the motherboard that would keep ubuntu from being installed?  i know nothign of it, but i've heard rumours :-(
[04:37] <dr_willis> linux_is_my_hero:  thats supposed to be in windows8/arm hardware  - so far rumors and rants..
[04:37] <danub> linux_is_my_hero: the secure boot is a problem. locks in an OS
[04:37] <ghostchick> unity --reset
[04:37] <danub> unity --reset gives an error, cant do it
[04:38] <linux_is_my_hero> ignerious: do you have any personal files on that computer that you want to keep?
[04:38] <ignerious> no
[04:38] <linux_is_my_hero> ignerious: in your case, i would reinstall ubuntu.
[04:38] <dr_willis> danub:  log out, do it from the console perhaps. and log back in.   or you got deeper isues going on.
[04:38] <linux_is_my_hero> download and burn the iso on a neighbor's computer or something
[04:38] <ignerious> sad :(
[04:38] <danub> dr_willis: probably deeper. i have been doing upgrades since 7.04
[04:38] <linux_is_my_hero> ignerious: i know, but it will take longer to fix it than to reinstall it
[04:39] <danub> haven't done a full install since
[04:39] <dr_willis> danub:  id suggest a clean install then.
[04:39] <ignerious> no way you can fix it???
[04:39] <dr_willis> i never upgrade.  releases
[04:39] <danub> ill try to log out and do it from the commandline. thanks for the help
[04:39] <linux_is_my_hero> ignerious: i know just enough to get by, which is why i would reinstall.  but can you fix unity in the hour it takes for ubuntu to install?  that's what it will come down to.
[04:40] <ignerious> ohhhh
[04:40] <linux_is_my_hero> ugnerious: on the other hand, this is also an opportunity for you to learn.  if you are the patient type, and you can break the problem into little pieces and make a plan, then you can fix it without reinstalling, and learn a whole lot about linux
[04:40]  * dr_willis dident even see ignerious 's issue..
[04:41] <linux_is_my_hero> ignerious: dr_Willis seems very knowledgable.
[04:41] <linux_is_my_hero> ignerious: you could ask him.  sorry i can't help, i have class tomorrow and its getting late.
[04:41] <linux_is_my_hero> dr_Willis: what is secure boot?
[04:41] <dr_willis> no need to msg me ignerious ..
[04:41] <ignerious> ok
[04:42] <ddelony> Hi.
[04:42] <ddelony> My 12.04 netbook hangs on boot.
[04:42] <dr_willis> linux_is_my_hero:  a complex topic that  you may want to check out the wiki pages and other blog sites.
[04:43] <ddelony> Oh wait, I was able to boot into recovery mode.
[04:43] <ignerious> dr_ willis: please help
[04:43] <dr_willis> ignerious:  and the issue is?
[04:43] <linuxtech> I think I have a filesystem issue, we had some power fluctuations with that Derecho storm blew through.  I have tried touch /forcefsck and debsums and that hasn't helped.  Any suggestions?
[04:44] <ignerious> I have send you the link in pm please see it
[04:44] <dr_willis> linuxtech:  fsck by hand from a live cd.
[04:44] <dr_willis> ignerious:  you could at least summarize the issue.. people tend to ignore it otherwise
[04:45] <linuxtech> Machine doesn't have a CD, so I will need get a USB memeory thing or get a harddrive ready to boot with usb...
[04:45] <linuxtech> Not tonight..,
[04:45] <dr_willis> linuxtech:  i always keep a spare usb key in my pc toolbox.
[04:45] <ignerious> i cannot i dont know how to summerise this issue
[04:45] <ignerious> please see it
[04:45] <majest_> can anyone help configuring a static IP on ubuntu server 12.04?
[04:46] <P-Chan> I want to use abrowser but can't run here. why?
[04:47] <HaltingState> a taskbar should be an option in unity; who made the decision to destroy the operating system
[04:47] <dr_willis> your summary would be  'you are having package manager issues'
[04:48] <JoseeAntonioR> HaltingState: You can choose to use other desktop environments if you're willing to.
[04:48] <ignerious> yes that is it
[04:48] <ddelony> I've run a fsck in recovery mode and now it seems to boo okay. I've had this happen several times already.
[04:48] <ignerious> please help me now
[04:48] <dr_willis> and i can barely read that log. im on my cell phone.   check the askubuntu.com site and forums perhaps for how to fix up apt/packages when they get confused. i rarely need tomess with apt-get in that depth
[04:49] <majest_> can anyone help configuring a static IP on ubuntu server 12.04?
[04:49] <JoseeAntonioR> !patience |  majest_
[04:50] <dr_willis> majest_:  check askubuntu.com ? i think its a single file you edit. but ive never done it myself.
[04:50] <HaltingState> JoseeAntonioR, not having a task bar should not be a choice.  Its like saying the jews under hilter "had a choice" to leave germany
[04:50] <majest_> i have for 11.04 and it worked fine but i'm having no luck
[04:50] <ignerious> any on can help me???
[04:50] <ignerious> please
[04:51] <JoseeAntonioR> HaltingState: Please, keep this channel for support only. Opinions are greatly appreciated in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[04:51] <dr_willis> you can easially use a dock with unity. or some other simple taskbar addones
[04:52] <V3NG3NC3678> Installing it now!
[04:52] <ignerious> Please help me to fix this problem http://pastebin.com/yL9mnfFf
[04:52] <V3NG3NC3678> WOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo!
[04:52] <ignerious> anyone ?????
[04:52] <V3NG3NC3678> widing out win 7!
[04:52] <V3NG3NC3678> wipeing*
[04:52] <V3NG3NC3678> lol
[04:52] <V3NG3NC3678> by by win 7
[04:52] <dr_willis> ignerious:  you should give a summary of whats it about.. most people wont read a url just to discover they have no idea how to fix the probloem...
[04:52] <ignerious> yes yes
[04:52] <JoseeAntonioR> V3NG3NC3678: Please, stop flooding the channel.
[04:53] <V3NG3NC3678> I'm excited :P
[04:53] <sede> ANYONE from those present here to set up a server group softwared
[04:53] <dandaman> hi all, i recently got a dinovo edge keyboard and some of the keys are on it are inactive
[04:53] <dandaman> i wanna manually set the keycodes but i cant figure out what they are
[04:53] <KM0201> V3NG3NC3678: have you ever used ubuntu?
[04:53] <dandaman> can anyone help me set this up pleasE?
[04:53] <dandaman> im on 10.04
[04:53] <V3NG3NC3678> back in 9.10
[04:54] <V3NG3NC3678> I tried doing 10 etc but for soem reason my graphics card wouldn't boot the GUI
[04:54] <JoseeAntonioR> dandaman: Please, explain keycodes.
[04:54] <ignerious>  'I am having package manager issues' please help
[04:54] <dr_willis> dandaman:  on a weird keyboarad once i got lucky and found a nice guide in the forums on setting  it up. ;) but i think it might have been the archlinux forums.. heh.
[04:54] <ignerious>  'I am having package manager issues' please help
[04:54] <V3NG3NC3678> ironically that was with a Dell
[04:54] <V3NG3NC3678> lol
[04:54] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | V3NG3NC3678
[04:54] <JoseeAntonioR> ignerious: Please, develop the issue and stop repeating your question.
[04:54] <ignerious> Please help me to fix this problem http://pastebin.com/yL9mnfFf
[04:55] <majest_> Has anyone had the error "an inet prefix is expected rathr than" when configuring a static IP on 12.04 server
[04:55] <V3NG3NC3678> now for the million dollar question,.. how do I ride myself of unity?
[04:55] <dr_willis> V3NG3NC3678:  and you have actually USED unity for what? 20 sec now?
[04:55] <linux_is_my_hero> Lol im on android right now :-)
[04:56] <V3NG3NC3678> not even,.. it's not even installed
[04:56] <dr_willis> V3NG3NC3678:  install any of the other dozen window  managers/ or desktops out there...
[04:56] <V3NG3NC3678> I just don't want it
[04:56] <JoseeAntonioR> V3NG3NC3678: In the login screen, click on the srew icon. You'll find other options there.
[04:56] <majest_> sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[04:56] <CellTech> it makes me chuckle. We linux peoples have so many programs to do some odd stuff. But no one has figured out how to break open and closed CD-R and reuse it.. I don't use CD's. So I only need this 1 to fix a dumb dell laptop that doesn't boot from usb
[04:56] <dandaman> damn i think i might have to hack around in the bios for this one :\
[04:56] <linux_is_my_hero> Dandaman: yeah the older bios are like that :-(
[04:57] <dandaman> yeah xev isnt picking up these key presses
[04:57] <dandaman> this mobo is like a year old :\
[04:57] <V3NG3NC3678> the login after I install it?
[04:57] <dr_willis> dandaman:  check the tail of 'dmesg' output it may have some info
[04:57] <linux_is_my_hero> Dandaman: i got nothin. Sorry :-(
[04:57] <dr_willis> V3NG3NC3678:  the login screen has a 'gear' icon that lets you pick what desktop to use
[04:57] <shal3r> "recovery mode" in 12.04 now runs X, not single user mode. Is it possible to override that from grub?
[04:57] <dandaman> i did, didnt say anything
[04:57] <V3NG3NC3678> oh sweet
[04:57] <V3NG3NC3678> did not know that
[04:58] <dr_willis> i bet theres a lot about Unity you dont know either...
[04:59] <V3NG3NC3678> I am actually kinda excited
[04:59]  * dr_willis must have 24 items in that Gear/session icon menu on his Login screen..
[05:00] <V3NG3NC3678> I been waiting to try ubuntu 10+ for a while now
[05:00] <dr_willis> some of the docks even add their own 'dock + just a window manager' entry
[05:00]  * dr_willis is using 12.04 :)
[05:00] <dandaman> god i hope the bios has something for me....
[05:00] <dandaman> be back in a minute
[05:00] <V3NG3NC3678> Tho as I said earlyer
[05:00] <OerHeks> V3NG3NC3678, now you know nomodeset, have fun.
[05:00] <ignerious> JoseeAntonioR: have you got the link??
[05:01] <V3NG3NC3678> I really need a broadcaster for AAC, any programs for that?
[05:01] <sede> help me,ANYONE from those present here to set up a server group softwared
[05:01] <dr_willis> broadcaster? Like a UPNP server? DLNA stuff to stream to devices in the house?
[05:01] <linux_is_my_hero> Ignerious: i got irc on my android phone
[05:01] <JoseeAntonioR> ignerious: I'm sorry, but I can't help you with that now.
[05:01] <bent-stack> Hi all,  is there a way to filter the Ubuntu IRC channels to focus on one discussion - People often post a wealth of usefull diagnotic information..but the discussion is often hard to follow later - from http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[05:02] <linux_is_my_hero> Ignerious: have you gotten to the tty yet?
[05:02] <V3NG3NC3678> No to stream to a server
[05:02] <V3NG3NC3678> on win I use Sam broadcaster
[05:02] <dr_willis> hmm. normally the server streams to  the clients...
[05:02] <V3NG3NC3678> I am the broadcaster
[05:02] <V3NG3NC3678> broadcaster ---> server -- clients
[05:03] <OerHeks> try mixx &  icecast
[05:03] <majest_> Has anyone had the error "an inet prefix is expected rathr than" when configuring a static IP on 12.04 server
[05:03] <V3NG3NC3678> what is Mixx?
[05:03] <dr_willis> !info mixx
[05:04] <dr_willis> !info icecast
[05:04] <sede> halp me, ANYONE from those present here to set up a server group softwared
[05:04] <OerHeks> !info mixxx
[05:04] <dr_willis> must be under differnt package names
[05:04] <OerHeks> icecast is not in the repo's, i guess. but suitable for streaming.
[05:04] <dr_willis> sede:  perhaps tell the channel what you mean by a 'server group softwared'
[05:05] <V3NG3NC3678> is mixx on the repos?
[05:05] <OerHeks> V3NG3NC3678, sure
[05:05] <dr_willis> V3NG3NC3678:  bot says mixxx is ;)
[05:05] <dr_willis> apt-cache search shoutcast     perhaps to find similer apps..
[05:06] <shal3r> Is it possible to disable X startup via boot option in grub?
[05:07] <V3NG3NC3678> shal3R!
[05:07] <V3NG3NC3678> wher do I know you from?
[05:07] <aeon-ltd> shal3r: you mean stop gdm from starting? i don't think so grub only does kernel boot options iirc
[05:09] <shal3r> aeon-ltd, that's bad. My mouse and keyboard is not working in X, so i can do nothing
[05:09] <ghostchick> shal3r,  change the init lvl
[05:09] <shal3r> ghostchick, how?
[05:10] <sede> dr_willis, thanks for the sigerencia
[05:10] <sede> I could help, they mean by group server software, the truth I have to configure one but I have no idea that setting, there is little information on this type of server
[05:14] <majest_> Has anyone had the error "an inet prefix is expected rather than..." when configuring a static IP on 12.04 server
[05:15] <dandaman> wonderful...my mobo doesnt have a bios
[05:15] <dandaman> how is this even possible
[05:15] <bent-stack> majest_: what command are u using to set the ip?
[05:16] <V3NG3NC3678> so any guess as to why my GPU wouldn't display the GUI from 10+?
[05:16] <sede> I could help, they mean by group server software, the truth I have to configure one, but I have no idea that you could set set, there is little information on this type of server
[05:18] <aeon-ltd> dandaman: not possible unless it has a uefi instead
[05:19] <sede> channel someone has knowledge about groupware servers
[05:19] <sede> ??
[05:20] <dandaman> nvm, it was delete
[05:20] <randomDude> sede: indeed some channel might
[05:21] <linux_is_my_hero> V3ng3nc3678: what about keyboard shortcuts on boot before the os starts to load? :-(
[05:21] <OerHeks> V3NG3NC3678, a shile back you were given the grub solution with nomodeset
[05:21] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[05:21] <V3NG3NC3678> yup that was prolly ti
[05:22] <linux_is_my_hero> V3ng3nc3678: i had that issue too with a nvidea card. :-(
[05:22] <V3NG3NC3678> if I remember right I had a ATI in that dell
[05:23] <V3NG3NC3678> dell is worst for linux I think
[05:23] <devslash> i want my server to have a static ip so i added this to /etc/network/interfaces auto eth0 faceeth0 inet static
[05:23] <OerHeks> V3NG3NC3678, if it is ATI, then it is so old that even nouveau doesn't support it.
[05:23] <devslash> address <IP_ADDRESS> net mask <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:23] <V3NG3NC3678> that was an e-1505
[05:24] <V3NG3NC3678> had a dual core
[05:24] <V3NG3NC3678> so wasn't that bad
[05:24] <sede> randomDude , what you mean
[05:25] <V3NG3NC3678> i dunno what is worse\
[05:25] <sede> randomDude: what you mean
[05:25] <V3NG3NC3678> dual 1.6 or cingle 2.1ghz
[05:25] <V3NG3NC3678> lol
[05:26] <OerHeks> V3NG3NC3678, with flash you would want dual core.
[05:26] <V3NG3NC3678> nah I got a main rig for that
[05:26] <devslash> i want my server to have a static ip so i added this to /etc/network/interfaces: auto eth0
[05:26] <devslash> iface eth0 inet static
[05:26] <devslash> address <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:26] <devslash> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:26] <devslash> gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:26] <FloodBot1> devslash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:26] <V3NG3NC3678> that one is a monster
[05:26] <devslash> when i boot i get an ip but i can't access outside of my lan
[05:26] <V3NG3NC3678> 24 cores on that one :)
[05:26] <linux_is_my_hero> V3ng3nc3678: thats what she said lol
[05:27] <V3NG3NC3678> main PC is a server computer
[05:27] <devslash> can anyone tell me if I'm doing something wrong ?
[05:27] <OerHeks> V3NG3NC3678, well this is getting offtopic. find the ati card specs, so we can help you.
[05:28] <V3NG3NC3678> Well this is a Toshiba,. that was old news
[05:28] <linux_is_my_hero> Devslash: is your router blocking your mac address from the internet?
[05:28] <V3NG3NC3678> looks like it is working fine on this one
[05:28] <devslash> no i don't use mac blocking
[05:28] <V3NG3NC3678> tho I didn't see the login screen cause I diabled it
[05:28] <linux_is_my_hero> Devslash: anything changed from when you were able to get to the internet? Upgrades, hardware changes?
[05:28] <devslash> hmm i did dhclient eth0 and it now it works
[05:28] <OerHeks> devslash, if you can ping, yhen you have no dns in dnsresolve.conf
[05:29] <devslash> well i don't understand why i need to do dhclient
[05:30] <linux_is_my_hero> Devslash: i had this problem too.  My ethernet cable was damaged.
[05:30] <OerHeks> devslash, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[05:31] <V3NG3NC3678> yummi more ati drivers
[05:31] <V3NG3NC3678> atleast this one loads I guess
[05:31] <V3NG3NC3678> looks like radio shack around my room
[05:31] <V3NG3NC3678> lol
[05:32] <devslash> OerHeks:  but how can i make it load automatically
[05:33] <elisa87> what's the reason for this error? my internet is connected E: Unable to locate package help
[05:33] <OerHeks> devslash, we need more info for that, paste your etc/network/interfaces @ use paste.ubuntu.com  and give the url here
[05:34] <devslash> ahh i figured it out
[05:34] <devslash> i added a dns-nameservers line in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:35] <gRAVIty_> can someone tell how I can do a USB install for ubuntu 12.10. The normal methods do not work because they dont yet support ubuntu 12.10
[05:35] <V3NG3NC3678> what is post delivery driver?
[05:35] <linux_is_my_hero> Ahh, lemme guess..secure boot?
[05:35] <OerHeks> gRAVIty_, join #ubuntu+1 for QQ 12.10
[05:36] <gRAVIty_> Thanks
[05:36] <NewLappy> just got a new HP ProBook. The HP_TOOLS look like they may be interesting and useful in the future. So now I'm looking for some definitive information on this UEFI stuff and that in conjunction with setting up a multi-boot system...except the newest information I can find is over 6 months old
[05:38] <ignerious>  'I am having package manager issues' please help
[05:38] <gRAVIty_> OerHeks: are you on ubuntu+1?
[05:38] <ignerious>  'I am having package manager issues' please help
[05:38] <OerHeks> gRAVIty_, nope
[05:38] <ignerious> Please help me to fix this problem http://pastebin.com/yL9mnfFf
[05:39] <NewLappy> ignerious, what kind of "issues" are you having?
[05:39] <OerHeks> NewLappy, this info is updated yesterday > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[05:39] <ignerious> Please help me to fix this problem http://pastebin.com/yL9mnfFf
[05:39] <V3NG3NC3678> yay it's working!
[05:39] <ignerious> http://pastebin.com/yL9mnfFf
[05:39] <aeon-ltd> ignerious: please be patient, spamming won't help
[05:40] <NewLappy> thanks OerHeks I'll see if I can make sense of that and consolidate it with my original ideas for this machine
[05:40] <OerHeks> ignerious, what are you trying to install and how did you di that?
[05:40] <ignerious> some themes through ubuntu-tweak
[05:41] <V3NG3NC3678> so where is this skrew driver you speak of?
[05:41] <dr_willis> skrew?
[05:42] <OerHeks> ignerious, on what ubuntu are you now?
[05:42] <V3NG3NC3678> options for GUI other then unity
[05:42] <ignerious> 11.10
[05:42] <V3NG3NC3678> also
[05:42] <V3NG3NC3678> FF needs to be updated
[05:42] <dr_willis> V3NG3NC3678:  themain desktops are kde, lxde, xfce and gnome-shell, and of course unity
[05:43] <V3NG3NC3678> yes where to I chgange it?
[05:43] <dr_willis> install the one you want.. use the gear icon on the login screen to select what one to use at login time...
[05:43] <V3NG3NC3678> oh great
[05:43] <dr_willis> !gnome-shell
[05:43] <V3NG3NC3678> my very first linux crash
[05:44] <Ghosthunter007> On Ubuntu Tweaks I set my logon screen wall paper and icon but its not taking affect I have also rebooted the system, could this be my policykit blocking the change
[05:44] <dr_willis> Ghosthunter007:  what ubuntu relase are you using?
[05:45] <Ghosthunter007> 12.04 64bit and 0.7.1 on Ubuntu Tweaks
[05:45] <V3NG3NC3678> ok this thing says I need to update things
[05:45] <dr_willis> 12.04 login wallpaper is set where it changes to whagtever the user has selected.
[05:45] <V3NG3NC3678> how do I do that?
[05:45] <dr_willis> V3NG3NC3678:  via the package manager tools/software center, or the cli.
[05:46] <Ghosthunter007> wall paper on desktop is ok its the logon screen that wont change
[05:46] <dr_willis> should ba icon at the left side.]
[05:46] <dandaman> there goes 2 hours of my time
[05:46] <dandaman> i give up :(
[05:46] <dr_willis> Ghosthunter007:  the login screne wallaper Changes automatically - to be the same that my user is using on his desktop
[05:47] <V3NG3NC3678> can't I do sudo apt-get update?
[05:47] <dr_willis> V3NG3NC3678:  via the package manager tools/software center, or the cli.   that would be the 'cli' method.
[05:47] <dr_willis> update, then upgrade,.. yes..
[05:47] <V3NG3NC3678> where the hell is terminal?
[05:47] <Ghosthunter007> hmm oddly it never done that, it was the default ubuntu pink
[05:48] <dr_willis> if using unity. tap the alt key. type in  'term' and it should show the icon... i always pin the icon to the panel.
[05:48] <V3NG3NC3678> found it
[05:48] <dr_willis> lunch time. bbl.
[05:48] <V3NG3NC3678> updating
[05:49] <unknerror> dose someone know where are the gnome 2.X themes located?
[05:51] <ghostchick> unknerror,  /usr/share/themes ?
[05:52]  * unknerror give a big hug to ghostchick THX!
[05:52] <immortalrites> I've tried everythign to get my ipod to work, nothing works, help
[05:52] <V3NG3NC3678> why does video seem laggy as hell?
[05:52] <ghostchick> unknerror,  thanks and no problem the user ones are in the individual homes
[05:53] <kanha_> hi
[05:53] <jrdnn> kanha_: Hello
[05:53] <immortalrites> I've really tried everything, how can I get my ipod to work on ubuntu?
[05:54] <kanha_> I am not able to update my ubuntu11.10 using sudo apt-get update ?
[05:54] <devslash> i set up ubuntu server and installed openssh. i used a complicated password for the regular user that i use. is there anything else i need to do to prevent hack attempts
[05:54] <kanha_> *.
[05:55] <Psytonic> hi all, is there a linux equivalent to netbios? or just use netbios?
[05:55] <dax> devslash: turn off password authentication and use SSH keys
[05:56] <V3NG3NC3678> hey can someone help me fix video drivers?
[05:56] <devslash> how does that work ?
[05:56] <V3NG3NC3678> this is horrible
[05:56] <ddelony> I've been having an odd problem with 12.04
[05:57] <[deXter]> V3NG3NC3678, What's the issue here?
[05:57] <dax> devslash: using SSH keys: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys | disabling password authentication: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring#Disable_Password_Authentication
[05:57] <ddelony> I have occasional hangs on booting.
[05:57] <V3NG3NC3678> how do you do that dexter like highlight my name?
[05:57] <V3NG3NC3678> the video is laggy as hell
[05:57] <V3NG3NC3678> win 7 was smooth
[05:57] <jrdnn> Psytonic: https://www.zulius.com/how-to/resolve-windows-netbios-names-from-linux/
[05:58] <fidel> ahoi
[05:59] <Psytonic> jrdnn: so theres no linux equivalent? just use netbios? or rather netbios is the standard, not just a windows thing?
[06:01] <LeJoker> Quick question: If I have a link, and a program/shortcut whatever references that link, will it access the actual location of the folder?
[06:01] <Dr_O> Psytonic: what do you mean by netbios? do you mean sharing files and printers between linux machines?
[06:02] <LeJoker> (12.04)
[06:02] <Psytonic> no, i want a name->ip service kind of thing
[06:02] <Psytonic> but not a centralised dns
[06:02] <Dr_O> unix traditionaly used DNS
[06:02] <ccb056> is the chrome search bar broken for just me or everyone?
[06:02] <Psytonic> something akin to windows broadcasting it's own name
[06:03] <Dr_O> I never understand why DNS is not what peiple want when IP/machine maping.. but maybe that is just me. You could check out boinjour/avahi type stuff
[06:03] <Psytonic> dns requires a server, thats basically it - I'm working with 6 autonamous robot peers
[06:03] <Random832> Psytonic: my system sends its hostname to the dhcp server [a netgear router] which provides dns service for the local network
[06:03] <Random832> that's fairly standard
[06:04] <Random832> how do these robot peers know their ip address?
[06:04] <Random832> how do they know their own hostname
[06:04]  * tMH is gone. nsf
[06:04] <Psytonic> Random832: thats what I'm trying to work out
[06:04] <Dr_O> with 6 just put themin /etc/hosts
[06:04] <Psytonic> I can set hostnames easily enough, but I'd rather not have to have static IPs
[06:04] <Random832> Psytonic: knowing their own ip address and own hostname is the first step, you have to have that before they can tell anyone else their hostname
[06:04] <Random832> get a dhcp server
[06:04] <Random832> or static ips
[06:04] <Random832> that is your choice
[06:05] <Psytonic> got a DHCP server, on the router
[06:05] <Random832> ok
[06:05] <Random832> so they tell the dhcp server their hostname, and it provides dns
[06:05] <Random832> just like on millions of other home networks
[06:05] <Random832> why do they need names, anyway?
[06:05] <LeJoker> Better yet: How do I change the install directory of a program, assuming I already moved the files?
[06:05] <Psytonic> hmmm...I thought u had to have some other mechanism
[06:05] <Psytonic> IP's may change
[06:05] <ghostnik11> How do u get xorg to display to tv
[06:06] <Random832> ok
[06:06] <Random832> i mean why do you need to uniquely identify them at all
[06:06] <Psytonic> so basically I just need to get them to send their hostname?
[06:06] <Random832> they're identical "robot peers", doesn't each one just need to find the ooooooother five?
[06:06] <Psytonic> Random832: yes
[06:06] <Random832> so have each one scan the local network for whatever port they listen on
[06:06] <ghostnik11> I am trying to tell my laptop to display to tv but the function key +f4 won't do it
[06:07] <Random832> or send a broadcast udp packet
[06:07] <Random832> if they're all on a local segment you've got some extra tricks available
[06:07] <Psytonic> Random832: drop outs are a big issue, dont want to have to scan
[06:07] <Psytonic> and not on a local segment
[06:07] <Random832> or you could use zerocon, which i don't understand much about - it's layered on broadcast dns
[06:07] <Random832> zeroconf
[06:07] <Psytonic> kk
[06:08] <Psytonic> hmmm
[06:08] <Psytonic> might just stick to netbios
[06:08] <Psytonic> supervisor is probably going to crack the shits if I spend too long on it, lol
[06:08] <Random832> that still leaves you having to assign hostnames to each machine
[06:08] <Psytonic> oh wait, hostnames rather
[06:08] <Random832> are you sure they're _not_ sending the
[06:08] <Psytonic> yeah, I'm ok with that
[06:08] <Random832> right, yeah
[06:08] <LeJoker> Can anyone tell me a bash command to change the install directory of a program installed via the software center in 12.04?
[06:09] <Random832> what kind of router is it
[06:09] <Random832> most should do the hostname / dns thing right out of the box
[06:09] <Psytonic> dunno, might change
[06:09] <Psytonic> yeah
[06:09] <Psytonic> just need to check i guess
[06:09] <Psytonic> I just assumed it wasnt working because I was told there was a problem
[06:09] <Random832> are they all on the same router?
[06:09] <Psytonic> yup
[06:09] <Random832> eh
[06:09] <Random832> i gtg to bed
[06:10] <Psytonic> Random832: night, thanks for the help
[06:10] <Random832> LeJoker: no such thing... what are ou trying to do?
[06:10] <LeJoker> Random832: I cp'd a folder out of my home because it was taking up far too much space, and I just want it to redirect to the new location when I boot up that program
[06:10] <Dr_O> Psytonic: I found this link: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/forum/support/20090212/register-hostname-dns
[06:10] <Random832> ...wait, you can install to your home via the software center?
[06:11] <Psytonic> Dr_O: ta
[06:11] <LeJoker> Random832: It was default
[06:11] <Random832> or you mean your user config dir like ~/.program
[06:11] <LeJoker> I didn't have an option
[06:11] <Random832> just make a symlink
[06:11] <Random832> then it can still find it by looking in your home
[06:11] <LeJoker> I'm kinda new to linux, I don't actually know what that is :P
[06:11] <Psytonic> symbolic link: google knows it
[06:11] <Random832> well how about you start over saying what specifically you are talking about, and someone else can help you - it's 2AM for me
[06:11] <LeJoker> I'd seen the term before but I don't know how to do it
[06:12] <Random832> ever used windows or mac
[06:12] <LeJoker> mhm
[06:12] <Random832> it's like a shortcut or an alias, except completely transparent (apps don't have to understand them to use one that's already there)
[06:12] <mah454> How can administration with dconf-editor ? in gconf-editor i can set some configuration and use "Set As Default" but dconf-editor have not this !
[06:12] <Random832> the command is ln -s , type "man ln"
[06:12] <LeJoker> got it, thanks :)
[06:13] <dr_willis> links are a feature of the filesystem. :) at a lower level of the  os then how windows handles its .lnk files
[06:14] <sindikat`> test
[06:14] <ignerious> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-colors/+bug/835414
[06:14] <dr_willis> somthing to rember about hard links. a hardlink is the same as the original file. its as if you just have 2 names.
[06:15] <dr_willis> !info gnome-colors
[06:16] <Sindikat> test
[06:16] <dr_willis> 2+2=
[06:16] <deper29> 5
[06:16] <dr_willis> in binary...
[06:16] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:16] <Psytonic> no such thing as 2 in binary :P
[06:17] <deper29> lol
[06:17] <dr_willis> irattional binary numbers
[06:18] <jrdnn> Psytonic: 10 types of numbers in binary
[06:19] <Psytonic> jrdnn: no theres not, theres only...oh wait i see what you did, ahahahaha :P
[06:19] <Psytonic> :|
[06:19] <amitav> hey, with the recent 12.04 version, what is the grub version provided?
[06:20] <saju_m> I have a ubuntu  user named 'saju' and homefolder '/home/saju'  Howto change username and homefolder name ???
[06:20] <OerHeks> amitav 1.99
[06:20] <saju_m> i am using ubuntu 12.04
[06:20] <ghostchick> amitav,  grub 2
[06:21] <Psytonic> saju_m: https://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=change+username+linux&oq=change+username+linux&gs_l=hp.3..0l4.440.6039.0.6<IP_ADDRESS>.<IP_ADDRESS>0.5450.2-2j3j5j3.13.0...0.0.MxNFPN3Smm0&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=288684bd0a365fdd&biw=1680&bih=942
[06:21] <amitav> OerHeks, ghostchick : please clarify
[06:21] <dr_willis> saju_m:  easier to just make  new user with the  new name and then copy the files over you need.
[06:21] <dax> amitav: GRUB 2 version 1.99
[06:22] <OerHeks> !grub | amitav
[06:22] <dr_willis> make sure you put him in the sudo group so you have sudo rights.
[06:22] <amitav> OerHeks, ghostchick : If it grub 1.99, i.e. old grub I can easily restore it using grub from the command line but if it new grub then I have to learn it
[06:22] <dax> grub 1.99 is grub 2, not grub 1.
[06:22] <dr_willis> !grub2
[06:22] <dax> grub 1 is version 0.97 or something like that
[06:22] <dr_willis> Grub-fu-skills
[06:23] <dr_willis> down with version # bloat!
[06:24] <amitav> ah, okay
[06:24] <amitav> thanks guys
[06:29] <dial-a-monkey> ccb056: Bump = yes
[06:35] <dr_willis> its quiet... ;^) how will i ever make my quota.