[05:56] <didrocks> good morning!
[06:14] <pitti> Good morning
[06:37] <hikiko> good morning desktopers :D
[06:38] <didrocks> hey hikiko
[06:38] <hikiko> my isp just gave me 10GB mobile internet for free until they fix the problem so that I can use my mobile as a hotspot until they fix the issue :)
[06:38] <hikiko> \m/
[06:38] <hikiko> hi didrocks :)
[06:42] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[06:42] <seb128> hey hikiko, re didrocks
[06:43] <didrocks> re seb128
[06:45] <hikiko> hi seb128
[07:21] <pitti> bonjour seb128
[07:21]  * pitti -> appointment, bbl
[07:21] <seb128> pitti, salut pitti, ça va ?
[08:02] <larsu> good morning!
[08:03] <didrocks> hey larsu!
[08:05] <larsu> bonjour didrocks!
[08:14] <Trevinho> Buon giorno!
[08:16] <larsu> hey Trevinho
[08:16] <didrocks> morning Trevinho
[08:17] <seb128> hey larsu, wie gehts?
[08:17] <seb128> hey Trevinho
[08:17] <larsu> morning seb128! good thanks - and you?
[08:19] <Trevinho> Hi larsu, didrocks, seb128 ;-)
[08:27] <darkxst> hey all
[08:35] <seb128> hey darkxst
[08:40]  * Trevinho hates when can't connect to routers...
[08:53] <didrocks> interesting those frameworks which keeps changing their icon path :p
[08:54] <didrocks> (great that tests enable us to discover this)
[09:00] <willcooke> morning
[09:01] <larsu> willcooke: bonjour
[09:02] <didrocks> morning willcooke
[09:03] <seb128> hey willcooke Laney
[09:03] <Laney> hey ;-)
[09:03] <Laney> a pre hello hey from seb128!
[09:03] <seb128> :-)
[09:03] <Laney> i think you meant larsu
[09:04] <seb128> no, but it was within the minute you usually say hello
[09:04] <larsu> morning Laney :)
[09:04] <seb128> so I though it was good timing ;-)
[09:04] <larsu> seb128 is clever
[09:05] <Laney> a cunning young man
[09:05] <Laney> some would say too cunning
[09:05] <Laney> hi larsu!
[09:05] <seb128> haha
[09:05] <didrocks> morning Laney
[09:08] <seb128> what's going on with autopkgtests, why is there so much backlog?
[09:09] <Laney> hey didrocks
[09:09]  * seb128 looks at pitti
[09:10] <Laney> one of the cloud regions is broken
[09:10] <Laney> so there are 10 less workers than normal
[09:10] <seb128> I see
[09:11] <seb128> need to to feed more hamsters
[09:12] <Laney> still doesn't seem to have gotten to most of the gtk tests though
[09:12] <Laney> that's been like 1.5 days now
[09:13] <Laney> which is a bit suspicious
[09:13] <seb128> yeah, some are in progress for ages
[09:13] <Laney> and the queue only shrunk by like 60 overnight on xenial/amd64
[09:14] <Laney> I think one problem is that kde tests all do a rebuild from source
[09:14] <Laney> don't know if that explains all this
[09:14] <Laney> there were quite a lot on trusty too because of some kernel uploads
[09:14] <Laney> bleh
[09:15] <Laney> did you see my request yesterday for some promotions?
[09:15] <seb128> yeah, I was still around but not in full work mode
[09:15] <seb128> and I'm unsure I feel like promoting things without a MIR
[09:15] <seb128> is that "perl sources can be freely promoted" written somewhere?
[09:16] <seb128> it feels weird
[09:16] <seb128> like why do we need to bother for things like cmake rules or small python wrappers, but perl is ok?
[09:17] <Laney> ok, never mind, I'll ask someone else
[09:17] <Laney> thanks!
[09:17] <seb128> I'm tempted to just do it for the sake of avoiding work though :p
[09:17] <seb128> sorry, ping me again if you don't manage to get a reply for e.g infinity
[09:17] <seb128> I'm a bit reluctant but it's not going to take a lot to convince me ;-)
[09:17] <seb128> what is pulling those in now btw?
[09:17] <seb128> I missed the context
[09:18] <Laney> lintian
[09:19] <robert_ancell> Hi all
[09:19] <robert_ancell> Writing planning documents feels like going back 10 years in software development...
[09:20] <Laney> hey robert_ancell
[09:20] <seb128> hey robert_ancell!
[09:20] <Laney> what a nice surprise!
[09:20] <seb128> how are you? (out of the planning documents writting ;-)
[09:20] <didrocks> hey robert_ancell!
[09:21] <Laney> what's the planning document for?
[09:21] <robert_ancell> seb128, sore. I spent the evening putting up insulation in my house renovation. Wild times for me!
[09:21] <robert_ancell> Laney, GNOME Software
[09:22] <willcooke> ohai robert_ancell !
[09:22] <didrocks> seb128: +1 on being annoyed by those CI downtime without warnings (spent an hour this morning because all machines were on weird state)
[09:26]  * Laney tries didrocks appstream commit
[09:27] <didrocks> no fear! :-)
[09:28] <Laney> is using a virtualenv best practice?
[09:29] <didrocks> Laney: if you want to control exactly what deps are in, yeah
[09:29] <Laney> I got all the deps from the archive anyway
[09:29] <Laney> so it made me wonder a bit
[09:29] <didrocks> (and if you use --site-packages, it's just a portable way to have your binaries installed in a non root dir)
[09:29] <didrocks> so I would say it's still the best to do
[09:29] <Laney> because with setting PYTHONPATH it works directly from the checkout
[09:29] <didrocks> better than /usr/local/…
[09:29] <Laney> but it's not hard to install it
[09:29] <didrocks> yeah, I would still suggest to install it
[09:30] <didrocks> in this virtualenv
[09:30] <Laney> unless there is weird path stuff
[09:30] <didrocks> Laney: btw, I guess the service isn't scalable with just served by one server, isn't it?
[09:30] <didrocks> what's the plan for that, giving it charmed to IS?
[09:31] <didrocks> or handling it in canonistack for some amount of time
[09:31] <Laney> like this https://github.com/ximion/appstream-dep11/blob/master/dep11/generator.py#L386
[09:31] <didrocks> and handling replications and such
[09:31] <Laney> what do you mean?
[09:31] <Laney> launchpad will just pull the data into the archive
[09:31] <pitti> re
[09:31] <pitti> seb128: 'sup?
[09:31] <Laney> users don't hit it directly really
[09:31] <pitti> seb128: oh, the backlog -- well, look at excuses.html :/
[09:31] <seb128> pitti, yeah, that's what I'm looking at
[09:31] <didrocks> Laney: ah, so one consumer (being launchpad), but still, who will host it?
[09:32] <seb128> pitti, things seem to be on "in progress" for days
[09:32] <Laney> $cloud
[09:32] <didrocks> Laney: I have some suggestions if it's on canonistack to ensure it's always up :)
[09:32] <pitti> seb128: and bos01 died over night, so it didn't make as much progress as it could have
[09:32] <didrocks> (even one instance)
[09:32] <Laney> it'll be on prodstack or whatever I guess
[09:32] <didrocks> ok
[09:32] <didrocks> so not us
[09:32] <pitti> debci-xenial-amd64 472
[09:32] <Laney> canonistack is no good for a production service
[09:32] <pitti> debci-xenial-armhf 30
[09:32] <pitti> debci-xenial-i386 256
[09:32] <pitti> debci-xenial-ppc64el 8
[09:32] <Laney> it's been randomly shut down many times already
[09:32] <didrocks> Laney: the path stuff doesn't really shock me TBH
[09:32] <Laney> and only been up for like 1 week
[09:32] <didrocks> Laney: it's either using prod data or local checkout one, which is common
[09:32] <pitti> seb128: yeah, I know -- we are still heavily underpowered and Monday's KDE landing causes an awful backlog as the tests take very long
[09:33] <didrocks> Laney: yeah, that's why if you wanted to use something like kubernetes meanwhile…
[09:33] <didrocks> (providing one or multiple pods and keeping them up)
[09:33] <Laney> didrocks: this breaks if it's in the virtualenv though no?
[09:33] <Laney> because ".." won't be what it wants it to be
[09:34] <didrocks> Laney: yeah, wierd that it worked, though, right?
[09:34] <Laney> I don't know that it did
[09:34] <Laney> because of the bug you fixed it never ran
[09:34] <Laney> so would have found this later on
[09:34] <seb128> pitti, I see, would be nice to have some smart logic to not let big jobs DoS the infra and take all the builders, blocking the small/easy ones
[09:34] <seb128> oh well
[09:34] <seb128> no hurry, let's wait
[09:34] <didrocks> Laney: I told you I tried it in a virtualenv on the machine, no?
[09:34] <Laney> did you look at the output?
[09:35] <pitti> seb128: believe me, I'm harrassing IS regularly about getting moar powah :/ I know it sucks
[09:35] <didrocks> yep, it generated some new content, but I didn't look in detail (there was some warning, but similar to the one you had with your global run IIRC)
[09:35] <Laney> I guess the system fallback would have worked
[09:36]  * Laney removes the package ;-)
[09:36] <didrocks> yeah
[09:36] <didrocks> if you installed it :p
[09:36] <didrocks> the best practice is first to factorize that in a get_template_dir()
[09:36] <didrocks> and have the logic poking here
[09:36] <pitti> seb128: so KDE and lots of other xenial packages plus new kernels in all stables (which also trigger several hundred tests each), plus little capacity -> I don't think reordering gains us that much there
[09:36] <Laney> how do you get the root directory of the virtualenv?
[09:37] <pitti> seb128: is there a package that's particularly pressing? we can hint it
[09:37] <didrocks> Laney: $VIRTUAL_ENV
[09:38] <Laney> neat
[09:38] <didrocks> isn't it? :p
[09:38] <didrocks> Laney: want some help or you are handling the patch?
[09:39] <Laney> as you wish
[09:39] <seb128> pitti, no, it's ok, mostly mir and gtk+ but they are not that urgent
[09:39] <Laney> there are some other cases e.g. dep11-hints.yml
[09:40] <didrocks> Laney: can handle a small refactoring of this if you wish
[09:41] <seb128> pitti, btw, other topic ... could we have a cron job for xenial langpacks updates?
[09:41] <pitti> seb128: oh, do we have exports now? sure!
[09:41]  * seb128 wants his new gedit translated :p
[09:41] <pitti> (I need to build the first one by hand, but that's simple)
[09:41] <pitti> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+language-packs :(
[09:41] <seb128> pitti, unsure, but translations are open
[09:41] <pitti> -> #u-devel
[09:41] <seb128> k
[09:50] <willcooke> seb128, did you see that Yorba went under? :(
[09:51] <seb128> willcooke, no, I didn't see, but I assumed they did since none of the projects are active and we didn't get a reply for the shotwell key issue since june
[09:51] <seb128> where did you read that?
[09:51] <davmor2> willcooke: aren't they the guys that do shotwell
[09:51] <willcooke> seb128, G+
[09:51] <willcooke> davmor2, exactly
[09:52] <willcooke> so worth having a quick discussion about Shotwell?  I mean, nothing has changed for ages, so we could keep it and not expect any serious breakage.  But might be worth thinking about a change of app?
[09:52] <willcooke> popey, ^^
[09:52] <davmor2> time to re-evaluate gphoto maybe
[09:54] <larsu> sad for them
[09:54] <larsu> but yeah, kind of expected
[09:59] <seb128> davmor2, gnome-photos I guess you mean?
[09:59] <seb128> we could, but changing in a LTS cycle...
[09:59] <seb128> and it's new GNOME style which doesn't fit well with our desktop
[09:59] <seb128> where shotwell is  desktop style
[10:00] <davmor2> seb128: yeah thought it was gphoto but yes the gnome photos app
[10:00] <seb128> old school desktop*
[10:00] <willcooke> seb128, agreed.  Sounds like a job for LTS+1 (to consider the alternatives)
[10:00] <seb128> also gnome-photos might depends on tracker or things we are not currently using (though I didn't look at it at all)
[10:00] <Laney> last I heard gnome photos didn't do importing from digital cameras yet
[10:00] <seb128> willcooke, yeah, also let's see if somebody picks shotwell up
[10:00] <darkxst> seb128, yes, I suspect gnome-photos uses tracker
[10:00] <Laney> or any photo editing
[10:01] <davmor2> willcooke: well by then we'll be unity8 based and have gallery right ;)
[10:02] <willcooke> davmor2, it's a possibility
[10:05] <seb128> I doubt it
[10:05] <seb128> they were talking about deprecating gallery
[10:06] <seb128> the camera app is having most of the features
[10:09] <popey> Hah!
[10:09] <popey> Gallery - Written by Yorba
[10:09] <seb128> yes
[10:10] <Laney> didrocks: huh, I forgot to reply to you?
[10:10] <Laney> didrocks: feel free to handle it if you are willing :)
[10:12] <didrocks> Laney: yeah, I was waiting for you to be back on that :)
[10:12] <didrocks> Laney: ok, will do that this afternoon
[10:12] <seb128> willcooke, do you have an url to that g+ post?
[10:12] <didrocks> seems ptyprocess needs a MIR
[10:13] <seb128> just curious, I'm probably not subscribed to the same people you are
[10:13] <Laney> didrocks: I at least typed something, must have deleted it :P
[10:13] <Laney> what is pytprocess?
[10:13] <willcooke> seb128, sure, one sec....
[10:13] <didrocks> ptyprocess*
[10:13] <didrocks> Laney: something used by pexpect to handle virtual shells
[10:14] <willcooke> https://goo.gl/SsAhv
[10:15] <seb128> thanks
[10:15] <seb128> lol
[10:15] <willcooke> https://plus.google.com/+NathanDyerdotMe/posts/67ts6ALTmTx
[10:15] <Laney> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[10:15] <Laney> "AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
[10:16]  * Laney closes that tab forever
[10:34]  * robert_ancell -> sleep
[10:34] <willcooke> see you robert_ancell
[10:34] <robert_ancell> bye all
[10:56] <pitti> seb128, Laney: ok, 45 mins with IS later I now have lcy01 and 8 extra workers back; let's see how long they'll hold :)
[11:01] <Laney> pitti: good luck
[11:01] <Laney> I noticed they re-enabled some builders there which all died again
[11:01] <Laney> https://launchpad.net/builders <- lcy01-* Cleaning
[11:03] <pitti> Laney: yes, axino said he'd try to restart those and monitor
[11:04] <Laney> pitti: I mean that as a sign that it still wasn't stable at least earlier this morning
[11:04] <pitti> 11:54:58 axino | pitti: when they're all disabled, lcy01 tends to be stable
[11:04] <Laney> although maybe it is those that bring down the cloud and not the cloud itself being bad
[11:04] <pitti> "they" -> lcy01 buildds
[11:05] <Laney> what's the interesting difference between this and lgw01 that makes lgw01 reliable?
[11:11] <pitti> Laney: I have no idea
[11:12] <Laney> sort of rhetorical :)
[11:13]  * Laney is tail -f log/lcy*.log
[11:13] <pitti> Laney: as long as you don't see "ERROR"s in nova list, things should be okay
[11:14] <Laney> nod
[11:14] <pitti> man, one of these days I need to figure out why some tests use the ugly instance names
[11:14] <pitti> seems the --name option doesn't get passed along properly in one case
[11:17] <darkxst> Laney, can you add gnome-builder to desktop-extra?
[11:18] <Laney> darkxst: if you mail devel-permissions
[11:19] <darkxst> Laney, kk
[11:19] <Laney> but aren't you getting that fixed in debian?
[11:19] <Laney> i.e. autosync
[11:22] <darkxst> Laney, yes, I am pushing the fixes through debian
[11:23] <darkxst> but its kinda crap when I have to wait on debian to fix FTBS etc
[11:24] <darkxst> (ones that only affect us)
[11:24] <Laney> get some sponsored uploads
[11:24] <Laney> then you can become DM
[11:25] <darkxst> Laney, who is going to sign my key?
[11:27] <Laney> one of these kind people https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning/Offers#AU
[11:29] <darkxst> Laney, or I just come to the debian hackfest, if CC will sponsor it ;)
[11:30] <darkxst> ^ insert pkg-gnome
[11:31] <Laney> heh
[11:31] <Laney> when is that?
[11:32] <darkxst> no date set yet
[11:34] <Laney> which mailing list?
[11:34] <Laney> don't see one
[11:34] <Laney> just some irc the other day
[11:35] <darkxst> Laney, only irc, but it will happen sooner or later
[11:36] <darkxst> unless its like the git migration, that doesnt want to happen
[11:37] <Laney> that's one reason to have a sprint
[11:38] <darkxst> yep
[11:39] <darkxst> but then also must be a reason we don't have branches on alioth either ;)
[11:41] <Laney> the script is the hard part
[11:41] <Laney> ask tumbleweed
[11:48] <darkxst> Laney, I was alluding to the point that it should in theory be really simple to create packaging branches for ubuntu GNOME/gnome3 ppa's, but it still hasnt happened
[11:48] <Laney> oh right
[11:49] <Laney> it's going to be cool to be able to git merge
[11:49]  * Laney does this for gstreamer already and it is g-r-e-a-t
[11:49] <darkxst> I already git merge everything, but major hacky, since not merging real commits
[11:50] <Laney> mmm
[11:53] <darkxst> works pretty well though, apart from the fact you have to resolve all conflicts before commiting
[11:55] <Laney> are you using rerere?
[11:55] <darkxst> gbp and a custom script that pulls in bzr packaging branches if available
[11:59]  * darkxst really should sleep now, I meant to do that an hour ago
[11:59] <Laney> lxc -> xenial
[11:59]  * Laney looks at dbus merge now
[12:23]  * Laney loses utf8 sbuild on desktop too now :(
[12:38] <seb128> Laney, utf8 sbuild?
[12:39] <Laney> yeah it had nice output
[12:39] <Laney> now it's all ascii
[12:40] <seb128> :-(
[12:42] <Laney> hardly a big deal :P
[12:42] <seb128> yeah
[12:43] <seb128> oh, nice, gnome-desktop3 migrated, seems like autopkgtest backlog is getting smaller ;-)
[12:43] <Laney> gtk got some green too
[12:46] <seb128> nice
[12:47] <seb128> larsu, are you looking at the nautilus menubar thing or not yet? I'm trying to decide what I should do with the nautilus update, wait a bit/upload without menubar to start/...
[12:52] <didrocks> so, they cancel the light festival in Lyon…
[12:53] <seb128> they do?!
[12:53] <seb128> it's well in advance
[12:53] <didrocks> well, it's in less than a month
[12:54] <didrocks> like 2 weeks and a day
[12:54] <didrocks> so not that much in advance
[12:54] <didrocks> (on the contrary even, hotels are booked in general 6 months in advance)
[12:54] <larsu> seb128: does tomorrow work for you?
[12:55] <seb128> larsu, next week work as well, I just want an estimate if it's worth waiting or better to go without and do that later
[12:55] <larsu> seb128: ok. I'll do it tomorrow :)
[12:56] <seb128> larsu, danke
[12:56] <seb128> didrocks, right, I guess my comment was rather "it's probably not reacting to a particular plot they found but just being cautious/not wanting to risk it because it's difficult to secure a such event"
[12:57] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, basically they fear that some noise of explosion due to anything create panicks
[12:57] <seb128> pitti is going to need to come to your place again next year then!
[12:57] <pitti> en effect !
[12:57] <Laney> but the stollen!
[12:58] <seb128> double stollen!
[12:58] <seb128> one this year, one next :p
[12:58] <pitti> non, je vais toujour venir !
[12:58] <seb128> tu as raison
[13:01] <didrocks> ;)
[13:01]  * didrocks hugs pitti
[13:14] <ricotz> attente, hi, is thr
[13:14] <ricotz> oop
[13:15] <ricotz> attente, hi, is there a current patch-set of mir for gtk+ git master?
[13:17] <attente> ricotz: for the ubuntu package? because it should be up-to-date as it hasn't had any activity in a while
[13:17] <ricotz> attente, I mean gtk+ git master doesnt compile against mir in xenial
[13:18] <attente> ricotz: i'll take a look
[13:19] <ricotz> ./gdk/mir/gdkmir-debug.c:106:36: warning: implicit declaration of function 'mir_touch_event_get_cookie' [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
[13:21] <attente> ricotz: you'll probably have to build against mir trunk because that's new api
[13:22] <seb128> Laney, pitti, can you help me to understand http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#ldb ? why aren't armhf/ppc64el trying for the current version?
[13:22] <ricotz> attente, hmm, I see
[13:22] <pitti> Laney, seb128: bug 1512779 -- ATM these need to be retried manually, sorry
[13:22] <desrt> good morning, fellow desktoply -inclined people
[13:23] <seb128> hey desrt!
[13:23] <Laney> urgh, look at the wrapping in that bug
[13:23] <pitti> seb128: let me retry all armhf/ppc64 failures wholesale, the qeueus are emtpy
[13:23] <seb128> pitti, danke
[13:23] <attente> ricotz: you can also just delete the line since it's just there for debugging purposes
[13:23] <pitti> well, not "empty", but "short"
[13:23] <Laney> note to self: never hard wrap when writing launchpad comments in the web UI
[13:24] <attente> ricotz: but afaik, it won't behave any differently than what's in the archive for xenial
[13:24] <seb128> Laney, nag the launchpad team to have them to display a wrapping line in the ui so if you want to do it manually you know where ;-)
[13:25] <Laney> I probably used vimperator and vipgq it
[13:25] <ricotz> attente, alright, will do that
[13:25]  * Laney does some rebuilds for liburcu
[13:26] <Laney> it'll be annoying if things get blocked on this transition after the tests run :P
[13:27] <Laney> pitti: "OSError: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory" - erm?
[13:28] <pitti> wut?
[13:28] <Laney> failure just now
[13:28] <pitti> oh, bos01-ppc64el-9
[13:28] <pitti> Mem:       2050048    1912936     137112       1280     328800     624912
[13:28] <pitti> doesn't seem terrible
[13:29] <pitti> erk, wrong machine
[13:29] <pitti> Mem:       2050048    1975464      74584       1228       7524      84096
[13:29] <Laney> isn't that from the cloud worker?
[13:29] <pitti> still
[13:29] <pitti> Laney: yes, it is
[13:30]  * pitti shrugs, let's see if it happens on more workers
[13:30] <pitti> lcy01 is still up -- scary!
[13:30] <pitti> it really seems it's the buildds OR autopkgtest, there's no AND there
[13:31]  * Laney restarted it
[13:32] <Laney> cosmic rays
[13:49] <seb128> kenvandine, hey, we still get error reports for the unity-webapps-* migration scripts, didn't you put a landing up to drop those previous cycle?
[13:50] <kenvandine> seb128, i did, not sure if they landed
[13:50]  * kenvandine checks
[13:52] <kenvandine> seb128, yes, silo 38
[13:52] <kenvandine> the branches are still awaiting review
[13:52] <seb128> kenvandine, can you nag someone?
[13:52] <seb128> dbarth?
[14:01] <Laney> seb128: can you look at NEW for ltt-control please?
[14:01] <Laney> I fake synced it from git, will block liburcu, mir, etc
[14:01] <seb128> Laney, ok
[14:01] <Laney> thanks
[14:01] <seb128> yw
[14:03]  * Laney lunch
[14:03] <seb128> Laney, done
[14:03] <seb128> Laney, enjoy!
[14:22] <desrt> google impresses me
[14:22] <desrt> they actually managed to make google+ _more_ difficult to use
[14:23] <larsu> oh true this looks different
[14:23] <larsu> morning desrt
[14:23] <desrt> g' morning
[14:25] <seb128> less easy to read :-/
[14:25] <desrt> also less easy to do anything at all
[14:25] <desrt> ...and it was pretty bad to begin with
[14:25] <seb128> I'm not doing much with it out of browser through posts and reading sometimes comments
[14:25] <larsu> don't use it?
[14:25] <mdeslaur> I gather their goal is to make everyone leave before they shut it down
[14:26] <desrt> that's sort of the impression i got
[14:26] <desrt> people will be less upset that way
[14:27] <desrt> unfortunately, google+/hangouts use is more or less mandatory for ingress operations :(
[14:28] <larsu> "unfortunately" :P
[14:28] <willcooke> :D
[14:28] <desrt> i totally geeked out on the social aspects of this game
[14:29] <desrt> which unfortunately has dragged me into a world of G+ pain
[14:29] <larsu> isn't it just the account you need?
[14:31] <desrt> technically you don't need a G+ account at all -- just google login
[14:31] <desrt> but again, all the social aspects...
[14:31] <desrt> any kind of non-boring high-level play involves a fairly large amount of groupwork
[14:33] <desrt> a bit of it is kinda implicit "i see my team happens to be holding this territory, i'll help out" type stuff... but anything beyond that requires coordination
[14:33] <desrt> and since it's all hooked into the "G" ecosystem, this is the platform of choice for everything... G+ and hangouts
[14:34] <larsu> makes sense
[14:34] <larsu> everyone has a google account by definition
[14:34] <larsu> doesn't make sense to have another one
[14:35] <desrt> and it's just one simple click to "upgrade" to G+!
[14:47]  * Sweet5hark is back from berlin.
[14:47] <Sweet5hark> Twas awesome.
[14:52] <qengho> Sweet5hark: what was in Berlin?
[14:54] <Sweet5hark> qengho: 2. open it summit by the greens and OSBA. lots of members of parliament asking how they can help open source/open data/etc.
[14:54] <qengho> Nice.
[14:59] <pitti> Laney: lgw workers dying> looks like orphaned instances, I'm cleaning up and restart
[15:35] <willcooke> didrocks, http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/ubuntu-15-10-review-wily-werewolf-leaves-scary-experimentation-for-next-year/
[15:36] <willcooke> didrocks, "If you're looking for a quick way to get, for example, a basic Android development environment setup, you'd be hard pressed to beat Ubuntu Make's simple umake android command."
[15:37] <didrocks> \o/
[15:39] <seb128> didrocks, well done!
[15:41] <didrocks> thx ;)
[15:41] <didrocks> happy that it's started to get noticed by the press
[15:41] <didrocks> (while I'm fighting pokfdpokfspodkfpods proxy on jenkins… not allowing me to access to localhost)
[16:00] <willcooke> erm, maybe larsu or seb128 - will we get the Google Drive integration from GNOME apps in 16.04?
[16:01] <seb128> willcooke, yes, the current gvfs has a backend for it
[16:02] <seb128> though unsure if that needs online account integration/is going to work with uoa
[16:02] <seb128> also somebody needs to merge gvfs with Debian
[16:02] <larsu> I think it does
[16:02] <seb128> but xnox just put his name on that by doing a rebuild ;-)
[16:02] <willcooke> lulz
[16:03] <larsu> haha
[16:03] <xnox> NOOOOOOO
[16:03] <larsu> welcome back xnox
[16:03] <Laney> swap with me for mdadm
[16:03]  * Laney doesn't mind doing gvfs
[16:03] <Laney> but I definitely do mind merging mdadm
[16:03] <xnox> Laney, deal
[16:03] <Laney> thanks
[16:08] <seb128> Laney, xnox, thanks
[16:13] <willcooke> desktoppers:  I'm going to swap some hours tomorrow morning.  I'll be back around lunchtime.  Telegram if you need anything
[16:13] <Laney> *anything*?
[16:13] <Laney> sudo make me a sandwich
[16:16] <willcooke> I'll go to subway, buy you a sandwich and put it in the pist
[16:16] <willcooke> *post
[16:16] <willcooke> no, wait, better idea
[16:17] <willcooke> muhaha
[16:19] <xnox> willcooke, justeat.co.uk do delivery might be easier to order it like that.
[16:20] <Laney> I'm off tomorrow, so I could be anywhere
[16:20] <Laney> drone delivery ought to be fine
[16:20] <Laney> as long as it's not delivering a hellfire missile
[16:22] <seb128> Laney, oh, enjoy the long w.e!
[16:22] <Laney> thanks!
[16:22] <Laney> this is one of the three days I had to use up :P
[16:23]  * seb128 should look at the team calendar once a week
[16:23] <seb128> willcooke missed that one on the monday summary ;-)
[16:23] <Laney> nah, I booked it on monday
[16:23] <seb128> ah, ok
[16:23] <seb128> any plan for the day?
[16:23] <seb128> climbing?
[16:23] <Laney> bake a cake for rosie's birthday
[16:23] <seb128> day/w.e
[16:23] <seb128> ah, nice
[16:23] <Laney> I want to make one of those rainbow cakes
[16:23] <willcooke> yeah, I was thinking about that,  perhaps move the email later in the day, or even to Tuesday
[16:23] <Laney> they are cool
[16:23] <seb128> take a picture for us :-)
[16:23] <Laney> and then climbing
[16:24] <willcooke> cake!
[16:24] <Laney> last time I made a cake it was a carrot cake
[16:24] <Laney> and was possibly the most disgusting thing I have ever created
[16:24] <Laney> I must have misread the scale on the measuring jug or something
[16:24] <Laney> *way* too much oil in it
[16:24] <willcooke> oh wait a moment
[16:24] <willcooke> xnox,
[16:24] <Laney> we ended up frying them
[16:24] <seb128> lol
[16:25] <willcooke> \o/
[16:25] <willcooke> wb xnox
[16:26] <xnox> tah
[16:26] <didrocks> climbing on the cake?
[16:26]  * didrocks is confused :)
[16:26] <didrocks> terribly confused even
[16:26] <willcooke> Laney, fried cake... sounds ok.  I could probably eat a fried cake
[16:26] <willcooke> thats pretty much a donut
[16:26] <didrocks> hum… donut
[16:29] <Laney> it wasn't so bad in that form
[16:30] <Laney> when it took about 4 hours to bake enough to fry...
[16:39] <qengho> Laney: carrot cake needs none of your help to be disgusting.
[16:39] <Laney> YOU TAKE THAT BACK
[16:39] <qengho> Carrot and coconut and raisins. All ways to ruin perfectly good baked goods.
[16:51] <desrt> qengho: +1 on the carrot, but you lost me after that
[16:52] <didrocks> willcooke: you got me interested in searching a little bit more recent articles, I see some like http://tuxdiary.com/2015/10/30/ubuntu-make/
[16:54]  * willcooke reads
[16:54] <willcooke> nice!
[16:55] <didrocks> there are even some youtube videos on how to install <…> with Ubuntu Make
[16:55] <didrocks> funny :)
[16:55] <willcooke> awesome!
[17:24] <qengho> didrocks: But, how do we install Ubuntu Make?!?
[17:25] <didrocks> qengho: all is written on its wiki page :)
[17:26] <qengho> I have not installed a web browser yet.
[17:26] <didrocks> qengho: you never installed chrome? :p
[17:26] <didrocks> that explains! ;)
[17:26] <didrocks> (j/k)
[17:53]  * qengho brblunch
[17:59]  * didrocks waves good evening and good night
[17:59] <Laney> night didrocks
[17:59] <Laney> see you monday!
[18:00] <didrocks> Laney: enjoy your long week-end :)
[18:00] <Laney> thanks
[18:02]  * Laney is off too, going to donate blood
[18:02] <Laney> laters!
[18:03] <seb128> Laney, good luck for that and for the baking, have a good w.e!
[20:41] <willcooke> g'night all - gonna be late tomorrow, prolly lunchtimeish


[22:12] <Riddell> dudes, who knows how to generate .pot files from docbook?
[22:39] <shaunm> Riddell: use xml2po
[22:40] <shaunm> Riddell: xml2po -m docbook -o mybook.pot mybook.xml
[22:40] <shaunm> something like that. if you use XInclude, you should pass each XIncluded file to xml2po
[23:06] <Riddell> thanks shaunm


[07:03] <dholbach> good morning
[07:44] <dholbach> hola dpm
[07:44] <dpm> morgen dholbach
[09:16] <dholbach> dpm, is the evernote sdk to go into the core apps ppa?
[09:17] <dpm> dholbach, I'd put it in there for starters, yeah. elopio wanted to have it in the archive, but I told him that that might take more time.
[09:17] <dholbach> dpm, what's the core apps mailing list?
[09:18] <dpm> dholbach, ubuntu-touch-coreapps @ lists launchpad net
[09:18] <dholbach> thanks
[09:20] <dholbach> dpm, ~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/collection?
[09:20] <dpm> dholbach, no, I think it's /daily
[09:20] <dpm> let me check
[09:20] <dholbach> dpm, I wasn't sure about putting it into ~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily  as it's not exactly a daily build
[09:20] <dholbach> but I don't care, I can put it into daily too
[09:21] <dpm> dholbach, yes please, let's put it in daily, as it's the one we're pointing people to and where Jenkins is hooked up to
[09:21] <dholbach> ok
[09:21] <dpm> thanks!
[09:22] <dholbach> dpm, uploaded
[09:22] <dpm> you rock
[10:55] <dholbach> dpm, it might have been wiser to use the python3 version: https://github.com/evernote/evernote-sdk-python3
[10:55] <dholbach> I'll have a look at it
[10:56] <dpm> dholbach, argh, I didn't know about it, well spotted
[14:07] <dholbach> moving back home, I'll be back in a few
[16:06] <dholbach> all right my friends - see you tomorrow! big hugs!
[16:27] <jono_> mhall119, pioneers is announced
[16:31] <jcastro> jono_, please please tell me the pioneers shirt says "you have died of dysentery"
[16:37] <jono_> jcastro, lol
[16:53] <mhall119> jcastro: lol
[16:53] <mhall119> jono_: can I copy/paste that onto the devportal blog?
[16:53] <mhall119> or can you
[17:05] <jono_> mhall119, sure!
[18:13] <pleia2> vUDS being so late is throwing me off, are there thoughts yet on the format for blueprints or a sprint created to add them to? right now we're just editing a wiki page ;)


[02:30] <ajaya> nybody aware of that Karmic images in West Zone . can't connect to us.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:30] <ajaya> I wonder if I just update it to the main Ubuntu repos
[20:20] <ajaya> eugene. I am doing some testing on EC2.
[20:21] <ajaya> make sure to check for where is emails coming from for error reports.


[00:58] <chrisvj> when i try to push a project to launchpad, I get: bzr: ERROR: Unable to connect to SSH host bazaar.launchpad.net; [Error 2] The system cannot find the file specified    can anyone help me?
[00:58] <lifeless> does 'host bazaar.launchpad.net' return an ip address?
[01:00] <chrisvj> host? i tried that just in cmd and bzr host, neither works
[01:01] <mwhudson> chrisvj: can you bzr push to any other hose?
[01:01] <mwhudson> *host
[01:01] <chrisvj> havent tried, any other hosts i could push to?
[01:01] <spiv> chrisvj: 'host' is a common command on *nix, not sure what the equivalent is on windows
[01:02] <chrisvj> ill look it up
[01:02] <chrisvj> ive used it before but cant remember it
[01:02] <StevenK> nslookup?
[01:05] <chrisvj> tracert
[01:06] <chrisvj> it ended with "general failure", last ip returned was <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:06] <spiv> That's a really screwy error code to get from a hostname lookup
[01:06] <chrisvj> spiv, might be endless redirects
[01:07] <spiv> tracert does something significantly different (and more complex) than just resolving a host name
[01:07] <spiv> What happens if you try "telnet bazaar.launchpad.net 22" ?
[01:08] <chrisvj> ah, nslookup also works
[01:08] <chrisvj> <IP_ADDRESS> is what nslookup gave me
[01:09] <chrisvj> spiv: unrecognized command
[01:11] <chrisvj> going to bazaar.launchpad.net just redirects me to launchpad.net
[01:11] <spiv> Wow, telnet.exe isn't a standard part of Windows any more?  Time marches on...
[01:11] <chrisvj> the command im using is bzr push lp:~chrisvj/+junk/game
[01:12] <spiv> Still, it appears you can resolve the hostname correctly judging by the nslookup result and that going to http://bazaar.launchpad.net/ redirects you as it supposed to
[01:12] <spiv> So my guess is you have a firewall or similar interfering with access to port 22
[01:13] <chrisvj> i had told windows firewall not to block bazaar, ill check port 22
[01:13] <spiv> Your bzr command is fine.
[01:14] <chrisvj> added an exception for port 22 to allow it through, still not working
[01:15] <spiv> chrisvj: oh, maybe it's something screwy with your local SSH client setup
[01:15] <chrisvj> pageant
[01:15] <spiv> chrisvj: run 'bzr version' to locate your 'Bazaar log file'
[01:16] <spiv> And pastebin the parts from the most recent command
[01:18] <chrisvj> http://pastebin.com/RyKKPFBd
[01:18] <spiv> This might be https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/553434 or closely related
[01:18] <chrisvj> ok so i need to install plink?
[01:19] <spiv> Huh, that log doesn't say which SSH implemenation it's trying, odd.
[01:20] <spiv> chrisvj: not necessarily (plink is just one of the supported ways)
[01:21] <chrisvj> oh
[01:22] <spiv> Do you have BZR_SSH set in your environment variables?
[01:22] <chrisvj> yep
[01:22] <chrisvj> it was set for plink, deleted it
[01:22] <chrisvj> bzr: ERROR: Connection error: Unable to authenticate to SSH host as<EMAIL_ADDRESS>supported auth types: ['publickey']
[01:22] <chrisvj> so that was the problem
[01:23] <spiv> Ok, local misconfiguration, which then triggered bug 553434.
[01:24] <chrisvj> is ubot5 a bot?
[01:25] <spiv> Yes.
[01:25] <chrisvj> ok, so now what?
[01:26] <chrisvj> ill generate a key
[01:26] <spiv> chrisvj: https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/CreatingAnSSHKeyPair
[01:29] <chrisvj> do i need to do Cygwin/Windows (PuTTY)?
[01:30] <chrisvj> yay its working! tyvm
[01:35] <chrisvj> also, is anyone interested in working on a mmorpg? need programmer, 2d artists, 3d modelists
[01:36] <spiv> chrisvj: glad we help!
[01:37] <chrisvj> everytime i commit a change, do i have to push it again?
[01:38] <spiv> Yes (or use 'bzr bind' or similar to convert your local branch to a checkout of the remote branch)
[01:40] <chrisvj> which would be better?
[01:43] <chrisvj> spiv?
[01:44] <spiv> chrisvj: It depends :)
[01:44] <spiv> Mainly on which way of working you prefer
[01:44] <chrisvj> on?
[01:44] <chrisvj> oh
[01:44] <chrisvj> what is the difference between a checkout and a branch
[01:48] <StevenK> A checkout is bound to the remote branch, and a branch is local
[01:48] <spiv> Just this one point, basically: a checkout is tied to a particular branch, so it can't have independent commits
[01:49] <chrisvj> ok
[01:49] <spiv> See also http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.dev/en/index.html
[01:50] <chrisvj> i pushed to lp:~chrisvj/spirit.sword/trunk  like it said on the project code page, but it put it on my page, how do i push it to the project?
[01:50] <chrisvj> ty
[01:50] <chrisvj> so with a checkout, a commit automatically pushes?
[01:51] <spiv> Yes.
[01:52] <spiv> You appear to have created a lp:spirit.sword branch already (via the web UI?), so just push directly to that.
[01:52] <chrisvj> ok
[01:53] <spiv> (or perhaps delete it and mark lp:~chrisvj/spirit.sword/trunk as the development focus.  The end result will be the same)
[01:53] <chrisvj> bzr: ERROR: At lp:spirit.sword you have a valid .bzr control directory, but not a branch or repository. This is an unsupported configuration. Please move the target directory out of the way and try again.
[01:54] <spiv> Ugh, that's the problem with the silly "register branch" link in the web ui :(
[01:54] <spiv> Add --use-existing-dir to the push command the first time.
[01:54] <chrisvj> i did
[01:54] <spiv> Oh, blah.
[01:54] <chrisvj> i have the branch "trunk" created
[01:54] <chrisvj> should i do lp:spirit.sword/trunk
[01:55] <spiv> Simplest is to just delete the trunk-1 branch (which is currently where the lp:spirit.sword alias is pointing to)
[01:55] <poolie_> hi spiv
[01:55] <chrisvj> ok
[01:55] <chrisvj> You cannot delete a series that is the focus of development. Make another series the focus of development before deleting this one.
[01:56] <spiv> And make point the lp:spirit.sword alias to the branch you already pushed
[01:56] <spiv> You don't need to delete the series
[01:56] <chrisvj> i clicked on delete branch
[01:58] <spiv> chrisvj: https://launchpad.net/spirit.sword/trunk/+setbranch
[01:58] <spiv> Hi poolie
[01:59] <chrisvj> ok ty
[02:12] <chrisvj> spiv, how do you know if the bind worked?
[02:13] <spiv> 'bzr info'
[02:13] <chrisvj> ty
[02:14] <chrisvj> ok it worked
[06:40] <shadeslayer> hi, when i try to access my sftp space on people.ubuntu.com, i get a public key error, could someone try and sync the keys? ( lp user : rohangarg)
[06:41] <shadeslayer> i had changed my keys a couple of months back
[06:48] <wgrant> shadeslayer: #canonical-sysadmin might be more help.
[06:49] <shadeslayer> alright
[06:49] <wgrant> shadeslayer: It syncs keys from LP, but we don't run it.
[06:49] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[07:06] <thomi> Hi, my last recipe build failed with the error "bzr: ERROR: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sloecode/sloecode/trunk/.bzr/repository/packs/b2010b3c109a515dab5bdcf8dcb09d04.pack is redirected to https://launchpad.net" - is this a bug? I haven't seen it before...
[07:08] <spiv> thomi: it is a bug, a transient one
[07:08] <spiv> thomi: a retry of the same build will probably work
[07:08] <thomi> spiv: thanks - is it worth reporting? I didn't see it in the launchpad bug list
[07:09] <spiv> It definitely should have a bug report
[07:09] <thomi> thanks
[07:09] <spiv> I don't know if it already does, although I know it's already known :)
[07:11] <thomi> Reported bug #806343
[07:12] <thomi> oooh, that's clever :)
[08:00] <shadeslayer> is there a procedure for removing a launchpad user account?
[08:05] <lifeless> shadeslayer: you can disable it in the UI
[08:05] <shadeslayer> lifeless: not my account :)
[08:06] <shadeslayer> we need to retire https://launchpad.net/~project-neon because we now have https://launchpad.net/~neon
[08:15] <bigjools> shadeslayer: I can disabled it, please file a question to verify authenticity
[08:15] <bigjools> disable*
[08:16] <shadeslayer> ok
[08:16] <shadeslayer> bigjools: which component do i file the question under btw?
[08:16] <bigjools> shadeslayer: launchpad
[08:16] <shadeslayer> ok
[08:20] <shadeslayer> bigjools: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/163909
[08:22] <bigjools> shadeslayer: I thought it was a team you're in but it's just a regular user.  Can you post a question from that user?
[08:23] <shadeslayer> sure
[08:24] <bigjools> thanks
[08:29] <shadeslayer> bigjools: ah, can't be done, we have lost the password for that account
[08:29] <bigjools> oh dear
[08:30] <shadeslayer> bigjools: i have the person in charge for that account online tho
[08:30] <bigjools> shadeslayer: if I email the contact listed and get a reply, that'll do for me
[08:30] <bigjools> ok?
[08:30] <shadeslayer> sure
[08:32] <bigjools> shadeslayer: sent!
[08:32] <shadeslayer> :)
[08:32] <shadeslayer> bigjools: who's the email contact anyways?
[08:33] <bigjools> nightly@
[08:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: do you have the password for that ^
[08:33] <shadeslayer> or did you lose that as well? :P
[08:36] <apachelogger> nightly@ what?
[08:37] <soren> soyuz/ppa question: I want to upload a package to multiple series in the same ppa. If I want to only upload the orig.tar.gz once, how can I do that? I suspect that I have to do an upload with it included, then wait for it to be published, and then upload the rest.. Is that actually true?
[08:42] <bigjools> soren: do you need it rebuilt in each series?
[08:43] <bigjools> you should not have to wait for publishing between uploads BTW
[08:44] <soren> bigjools: Yes, I do need it built everywhere.
[08:45] <soren> bigjools: Oh, no waiting required?
[08:45] <bigjools> I would hope not :)
[08:45] <soren> bigjools: Just as long as the first upload is the one with the tarball?
[08:45] <bigjools> yes
[08:45] <soren> Great.
[08:45] <apachelogger> shadeslayer, bigjools: not that I'd follow but getamarok.com seems rather expired
[08:46] <soren> bigjools: Awesome, thanks.
[10:12] <apw> can anyone tell me why bug #806375 which is New in Linux does not show up on searches for its title in linux
[10:12] <apw> (i wonder if it is because it is nominated for oneiric)
[10:13] <lifeless> no, its the hypens
[10:14] <apw> i can't search for words with hypens ?  or they have meaning ?
[10:14] <lifeless> we haven't analysed it all
[10:14] <lifeless> uhm
[10:15]  * apw wants to cry
[10:15] <lifeless> bug 2753 bug 29227 bug 612384
[10:15] <lifeless> bug 768685
[10:16] <lifeless> bug 29713
[10:16] <bil21al> my bugs and answers are not shown in the right side of my account???what  i do???
[10:18] <lifeless> apw: I think that that last one is the one affecting you
[10:18] <lifeless> apw: we don't know the cause yet (and most of the work in fixing it will be determining the cause)
[10:18] <lifeless> apw: what i do know i that if you were to say 'cve 2011 1770' and search on that, i suspect it would work
[10:19] <lifeless> bil21al: sorry, what are you saying?
[10:19] <wgrant> bil21al: Use the tabs at the top of the page.
[10:19] <wgrant> bil21al: The side panel did exactly the same as those, so it has been removed.
[10:21] <bil21al> is it removed by launchpad ???  wgrant;
[10:21] <wgrant> bil21al: Yes. The links along the top of the page do what you need.
[10:22] <bil21al> ok wgrant; thankx
[10:22] <apw> lifeless, nope that doesn't work either
[10:22] <apw> the only substring which returns any matches at all, is 1070 which takes me to bug 1070
[10:22] <lifeless> apw: you haven't changed the bug title
[10:23] <lifeless> apw: try now
[10:23] <apw> changed it?  not since it was created no
[10:23] <apw> seems the same
[10:23] <lifeless> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux?field.searchtext=cve+2011+1770
[10:24] <apw> now damned google analytics is hanging ARRRG
[10:24]  * apw is so just going back to bed
[10:24] <lifeless> my point was that cve-thing-thing messes up something in one of the layers
[10:24] <lifeless> cve thing thing does not mess anything up
[10:24] <apw> how the heck does your search fidn it
[10:24] <lifeless> I changed the title
[10:24] <lifeless> removed the hyphens
[10:25] <apw> oh
[10:25]  * apw cries some more
[10:25] <lifeless> yeah
[10:25] <lifeless> this is a frustrating bug
[10:25]  * apw wonders how this sort of thing ever gets passed our much vaugted integration test suite
[10:26] <lifeless> a test for this would fail :)
[10:26] <lifeless> its not a regression
[10:26] <lifeless> our text search has never been great; I have a big honking TODO to fix that
[10:26] <wgrant> But this isn't exactly a common or obvious case.
[10:26] <wgrant> So it is untested.
[10:29] <lifeless> apw: did you want the bug to be public ?
[10:39] <apw> lifeless, yep, its not an embargoed cve so its public knowledge
[10:39] <apw> and if we could find it it might even get fixed
[10:40] <lifeless> :<
[10:40] <apw> i should have realised moving cve work into launchpad was going to be a disaster
[10:40] <apw> but i shall let the security team lean on you when they find out we've lost half their bugs
[11:05] <lifeless> apw: heh, sure.
[11:05] <lifeless> apw: the escalation process (grab bryce) may help here
[11:07] <jtv> ScottK: I was told you'd be interested — there were some timeouts on the +queue page (at least on dogfood/staging) when you selected queues other than New.  Should be better now, so if you were avoiding using that, you may want to change your habits.  :)
[11:43] <bigjools> shadeslayer: still there?
[11:45] <shadeslayer> yes
[11:45] <shadeslayer> bigjools: ssup? :)
[11:45] <bigjools> shadeslayer: ok I tried to email nightly(at)getamarok.com but it bounced
[11:45] <bigjools> shadeslayer: and you guys say you don't have the password any more
[11:45] <shadeslayer> yes
[11:45] <bigjools> so I might as well disable it now
[11:46] <shadeslayer> thanks! :D
[11:47] <bigjools> shadeslayer: done
[11:49] <shadeslayer> :)
[12:00] <bernt1> Does anyone know about sthis (launchpad-login seems to be ok):
[12:00] <bernt1> bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(lp-66324304:///%2Bbranch/launchpad/.bzr/branchlock): Transport operation not possible: readonly transport
[12:16] <wgrant> bernt1: You are trying to push to lp:launchpad, which you don't have write access to.
[12:17] <bernt1> I've had write-access for a couple of years. What has changed, and where?
[12:19] <bernt1> wgrant: Ahhhhh typo..... arrghhhh
[12:19]  * bernt1 blushing
[12:19] <wgrant> I was about to say. There is only one account with write access to lp:launchpad, and it's a robot.
[12:19] <bernt1> wgrant: I sincerely hope it's that way, yes :-)
[13:09] <matsubara> adeuring, avaliable for a review?
[13:09] <adeuring> matsubara: sure
[13:09] <matsubara> adeuring, https://code.launchpad.net/~matsubara/launchpad/39605-bugtask-tooltip/+merge/66928
[13:09] <matsubara> thanks!
[13:10] <matsubara> I had a test failure on that branch which I trying to sort out.
[13:10] <matsubara> s/I/I'm /
[13:25] <ScottK> jtv: Thanks.
[14:13] <deryck> adeuring, do you mind continuing IRC duties until the top of the next hour, since I'm switching locations here shortly?
[14:13] <adeuring> deryck: sure, no problem
[14:13] <deryck> adeuring, great, thanks!
[14:47] <adeuring> matsubara: review sent
[14:47] <matsubara> danke adeuring
[14:50] <adeuring> matsubara: maybe the failure you noticed fixes already my last issue ;)?
[14:50] <adeuring> s/failure/test failure/
[14:51] <matsubara> adeuring, yep, I got some advice from stub and wgrant to make the page issue less queries. I'll change that and keep your suggestions in mind as well. I'll resubmit once I have something working.
[14:52] <adeuring> matsubara: cool, thanks! My suggestion is quite "cheap", maybe wgrant or stub had better proposals
[15:00] <deryck> adeuring, I can take IRC now.  Thanks, again!
[15:00] <adeuring> deryck: ok, thanks
[15:04] <mhall119> lifeless: ping
[15:49] <idnar> if I create a new project and start filing new bugs in launchpad, is that going to make it difficult to do an import from an existing bug tracker later on?
[15:51] <maxb> I'm not an expert, but I think that shouldn't cause problems.
[15:57] <mounir> James_w: anyone: Does the project maintainer in Launchpad has anything todo with code maintainership hosted by Launchpad? or these are totally separate
[15:57] <james_w> mounir, they are separate
[15:58] <mounir> james_w, thx
[16:21] <idnar> maxb: thanks
[16:29] <bdmurray> has anybody used searchTasks with the component parameter in the API?  I'm getting 500s all the time
[16:31] <bdmurray> deryck: hello help contact ;-)
[16:32] <deryck> hey bdmurray.
[16:32] <deryck> bdmurray, sorry in yui training session right now.
[16:32] <bdmurray> okay
[16:33] <deryck> bdmurray, I'll be free in 30 minutes.  or maybe abentley could help you if you need it now.
[16:33] <deryck> and I can cover for him later :)
[16:34] <bdmurray> I can wait / workaround it in the meantime
[16:36] <deryck> bdmurray, ok, cool.
[17:02] <deryck> bdmurray, can you paste me a snippet that is failing?
[17:03] <bdmurray> ubuntu = lp.distributions['ubuntu']
[17:03] <bdmurray> dev_release = ubuntu.current_series
[17:04] <bdmurray> dev_release.searchTasks(tags=['ftbfs'],component='Main')
[17:04] <bdmurray> I've tried 'main' and '1'
[17:04] <Ampelbein> bdmurray: bug 365449 , I ran into that aswell.
[17:05] <bdmurray> oh I'm subscribed to it even ;-)
[17:06] <bdmurray> Ampelbein: thanks!
[17:07] <deryck> well there we go. :)
[17:07] <deryck> bdmurray, you could fix that bug even ;)
[17:09] <bdmurray> deryck: yes probably
[17:34] <bdmurray> deryck: also distro_series.componenet_names appears at +apidoc but doesn't show up in the API
[17:34] <bdmurray> https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/devel.html#distro_series
[17:35] <deryck> bdmurray, you can't read component_names within lplib?
[17:35] <bdmurray> deryck: right it doesn't show up
[17:37] <deryck> bdmurray, ah, yeah.  I see.  The export is kind of a gludge.  I guess we meant to do something with it and never did.
[17:37] <deryck> hence the bug, I think.
[17:38] <bdmurray> deryck: its related to the same bug?
[17:40] <deryck> bdmurray, yes, I believe so.  As I read the bug, IComponent needs exporting to fix search, which would also fix component_names.
[17:53] <deryck> abentley, I'm jumping on tl call at top of hour, if you'd like to take irc then.
[17:54] <abentley> deryck: certainly.
[17:54] <deryck> thanks!
[20:12] <idnar> is it possible to create a branch via the API?
[20:12] <idnar> (an import branch, in particular)
[20:14] <lifeless> https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/devel.html#code_import
[20:14] <lifeless> newCodeImport
[20:14] <lifeless> so yes, it looks like.
[20:15] <idnar> ah, thanks
[20:54] <Andre_Gondim> Hi all, I accidentally made merge in my personal account with old, is it possible to undo?
[20:55] <maxb> no, account merges are not reversible
[21:38] <lifeless> Andre_Gondim: you can rename the merged account though


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[04:45] <pavlushka> Morning Every one!
[13:21] <pavlushka> Hello every one!
[13:21] <pavlushka> Heya Kilos !
[13:22] <Kilos> hi pavlushka
[13:22] <pavlushka> So how is it going? your irc office?
[13:22] <Kilos> lol
[13:22] <Kilos> ok so far. been working lots outside today as well
[13:23] <Kilos> and must herd sheep back in a moment as well
[13:23] <Kilos> i wonder where Ekushey is
[13:23] <Kilos> been quiet for weeks
[13:23] <pavlushka> Kilos, thumbs up!
[13:24] <Kilos> ty pavlushka
[13:24] <Kilos> ill be back later
[13:24] <pavlushka> me too, lol
[13:24] <Kilos> didnt even get to sleep this afternoon
[13:24] <pavlushka> I win, yea.....
[13:24] <Kilos> lol
[13:45] <pavlushka> Hello Zaki, Good evening!
[13:51] <zaki> good evening. pavlushka :)
[13:51] <zaki> how are you doing?
[14:10] <pavlushka> doing fine, was planned to go to Rangpur today to watch BassBaba performing, but failed because none of my acquaintance confirmed:(
[14:24] <zaki> oh.
[14:24] <zaki> u love bassbaba? aurthohin?
[14:24] <zaki> me too.. \m/
[14:40] <pavlushka> .
[14:40] <zaki> wb pavlushka
[14:40] <pavlushka> :)
[14:41] <zaki> so u love bassbaba? and aurthohin?
[14:41] <pavlushka> will be back later, :)
[14:41] <pavlushka> yes, I mean totally, like a Juvenile,
[14:42] <zaki> me too. :)
[14:42] <pavlushka> today, I am in loss zaki, :p
[14:43] <pavlushka> be back later.
[14:43] <zaki> why? :D
[14:43] <zaki> for missing that concert? :D
[14:43] <pavlushka> Because I missed the concert.
[14:43] <zaki> ha ha. :D
[14:44] <zaki>  i had a photo graph with bassbaba ;)
[14:45] <pavlushka> zaki, dont laugh and dont brag , I might find a good reason to challenge you in a duel, grrrr.
[14:46] <zaki> and his autograph too..!!
[14:46] <pavlushka> yeah, enjoy, bbl
[14:47] <zaki> :D by the way i got in facebook today, when i waked up.
[14:47] <zaki> sorry! got you*
[15:24] <pavlushka> will be back again later :p
[15:25] <zaki> whrn?
[15:25] <zaki> when*
[17:37] <Kilos> hi NaSb
[17:38] <NaSb> Hello Kilos :)
[17:40] <Kilos> i need sleep
[17:40] <Kilos> you be good
[17:43] <NaSb> Yah ! but simple busy
[17:43] <NaSb> any work for me?