[03:19] <Jdaniels> hi, after setting up java runtime environment i somehow broke my browsers and get this error: INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager, any help?
[03:20] <joeamined> anyone is using or used splashy in gutsy please ?
[03:20] <bazhang> sarixe: because he told me earlier
[03:20] <sarixe> bazhang : ah, gotcha
[03:21] <WhoaItsPhil> stwange, it still wont work...now it says cp: omitting directory 'Lila-Gnome/scalable'
[03:21] <WhoaItsPhil> and it didn't copy anything
[03:21] <efren20> can anyone hep me sycning my ipod i sync the music and it dosent work =(....
[03:21] <usser> WhoaItsPhil: try cp -R
[03:21] <cnStarz> how do i remedy overscan on my hdtv?
[03:22] <cnStarz> i looked in nvidia-settings but found nothing
[03:22] <Stwange> WhoaItsPhil, if you don't like the command line you can always use sudo graphically - alt + f2 and type "gksu nautilus", then use that to copy things
[03:22] <morphiend> efren20: what are you using?
[03:22] <sarixe> usser, WhoaItsPhil : cp -r
[03:22] <WhoaItsPhil> aha that worked...what exactly did the -r do?
[03:22] <usser> sarixe: you can use -R
[03:22] <sarixe> ah, didn't know that
[03:22] <Stwange> WhoaItsPhil, recursively
[03:22] <WhoaItsPhil> ah thanks stwange, didn't know i could sudo in the gui
[03:22] <sarixe> learn something new every day, i guess
[03:22] <usser> WhoaItsPhil: tells it to copy recursively including all the folders and files inside them
[03:23] <Fryguy--> should probably user -a so permissions get maintained correctly
[03:23] <efren20> morphiend:ok i tryed banshee still haviung problems gtkpod still having problems amarok still having problems when i sync it sycns cmplete but i eject asnd songs not there
[03:23] <morphiend> efren20: which ipod version?
[03:23] <efren20> i have the 160 black video
[03:23] <Stwange> no worries WhoaItsPhil. You can use gksu <anything> from alt-f2, or from the terminal "sudo nautilus" would have worked
[03:23] <efren20> 160gb black video
[03:24] <efren20> version number is a1238
[03:24] <Jdaniels> hi, after setting up java runtime environment i somehow broke my browsers and get this error: INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager, any help?
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> efren20: i have to admit, thats quite a mistery to me, cuz mine all work fine.
[03:24] <efren20> you have the 160 gb?
[03:24] <morphiend> efren20: how did you setup the ipod? did you plug it into a windows box (or format it as a windows ipod from a Mac) first?
[03:24] <MECU> Hi. Is there a way to save my current setup? Like all the programs I have open on each Desk?
[03:25] <danbhfive> Jdaniels: have you tried removing java?
[03:25] <WhoaItsPhil> now that command with the -r worked...but it didn't copy the folder...it just copied the files in Lila-Gnome to the new destination, but not the folder with it...
[03:25] <efren20> i had it installed in this pc before i sinstalled ubuntu i had it on windows xp itunes
[03:25] <icesword> gpedit.msc
[03:25] <Jdaniels> danbhfive: yeah I've removed what I can several times.
[03:25] <Stwange> WhoaItsPhil, cp -R Gnome-Lila /usr/share/icons/
[03:26] <danbhfive> Jdaniels: maybe you can reinstall firefox
[03:26] <WhoaItsPhil> ok thanks
[03:26] <Jdaniels> danbhfive: also i've reinstalled it a couple times, relinked in.
[03:26] <Jdaniels> danbhfive: yeah did that too... a llot.
[03:26] <morphiend> efren20: I'm guessing you can play songs off it with no problem, correct?
[03:26] <efren20> yes
[03:27] <morphiend> anyone know why my mouse interactions would fall off the current window and into the next, if the cursor moved faster than the window refreshed.
[03:27] <danbhfive> Jdaniels: did you remove with --purge?
[03:27] <icesword> !purge
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about purge - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <Jdaniels> danbhfive: no! please elaborate, i dont know how to do that.
[03:27] <morphiend> Like if you're resizing and you drag real fast, all of the sudden the mouse is highlighting text in firefox because that's the next place the cursor got to before the window was able to resize
[03:27] <danbhfive> Jdaniels: sudo apt-get remove --purge whatever
[03:27] <morphiend> efren20: good at least its being read from
[03:28] <djwonk> I don't understand the difference between using "tzselect" and "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata"
[03:28] <simps> Hello all. I am trying to setup Samba so I can view files on my windows from ubuntu. Right now, I can see files on Ubuntu from windows. On ubuntu, i can only see the windows computer, but when i try to access it under the Network folder, it says that the files cannot be displayed.
[03:28] <efren20> =/
[03:28] <jamesrdorn> If anyone has a sec to help me. I am having a problem where the network utility is not saving my WPA key. if I open the network utility, add my key and click ok... everything works fine, but if the interface goes down (by reboot) I have to add the key again.
[03:28] <icesword> danbhfive, why purge
[03:28] <Jdaniels> danbhfive: okay so that has me wondering how do I figure out what to put in for <whatever>
[03:28] <morphiend> efren20: how do you eject the ipod?
[03:28] <efren20> morphiend: but when i eject i have no songs cant hear them only when i connect to pc and i eject in the eject button
[03:28] <jamesrdorn> it's saving a hash from the key in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:28] <danbhfive> icesword: Jdaniels --purge will remove configuration files also, which might kill your bookmarks etc
[03:29] <szx0> Is it possible to connect to two different shares on the same server with two different account credentials at the exact same time via SMB?
[03:29] <morphiend> efren20: so when you plug the ipod in you get the pretty ipod icon on your desktop, and to eject, you right-click that icon and choose eject?
[03:29] <Ububegin> Is there a way to hide the folders in the desktop...
[03:29] <Jdaniels> danbhfive: i'll try it. any idea what whatever's value would be for java runtime environment?
[03:30] <morphiend> efren20: or have you been using the eject from amarok/banshee
[03:30] <Jdaniels> danbhive: or a way to see all my installed packages?
[03:30] <morphiend> Ububegin: rename them to start with a '.'
[03:30] <efren20> no i eject from the media player when it takes ipod off i go to the desktop then eject there also
[03:30] <danbhfive> Jdaniels: you don't remember what you installed?
[03:31] <morphiend> efren20: I will say I've run into issues using banshee and adding files to my ipod. I've moved to using gtkpod
[03:31] <djwonk> to answer my own question: "tzselect only gives you a view of the time at a particular timezone. to change the timezone use "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" instead" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320442
[03:31] <efren20> gtkpod does samething
[03:31] <morphiend> I had an issue where I would drag the files from my library in banshee to the ipod and then check the ipod library in banshee, and no files were there.
[03:31] <Ububegin> morphiend: Oh, Sweet dude... wat bout those mounted drives... they dont seem to be renamable
[03:31] <juice_> so i just recompiled wine so i could play call of duty but now steam wont launch.. anyone?
[03:31] <efren20> morphiend: and when it finish snc it says flushing to dik
[03:32] <morphiend> Do your songs ever show up in banshee under the ipod?
[03:32] <one_matthias> nobody have prolems with driver for ati x1400 graphics card ...
[03:32] <morphiend> efren20: are you songs actually mp3's? or did you use the default ripping methods? ubuntu defaults to ogg format and the ipod cannot play those files.
[03:33] <sfears> hello.. looking for some help networking a windows machine thru crossover cable & eth0 while connected to the net via wireless card on wlan2.. any ideas? i can only seem to get one at a time to work requireing a restart each time i make a change to the network settings
[03:33] <efren20> morphiend:yes they show up under the ipod and yes there mp3 files
[03:33] <morphiend> can you play them from the ipod in banshee?
[03:33] <simps> Hello all. I am trying to setup Samba so I can view files on my windows from ubuntu. Right now, I can see files on Ubuntu from windows. On ubuntu, i can only see the windows computer, but when i try to access it under the Network folder, it says that the files cannot be displayed.
[03:33] <efren20> yes
[03:35] <efren20> what do you suggest morphiend
[03:35] <Jdaniels> danbhfive: not precisely what it would be called package wise, no. also, when I run --purge i get: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:35] <Jdaniels> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:35] <Jdaniels> helllo?
[03:35] <Jdaniels> hello?
[03:35] <jamesrdorn> If anyone has a sec to help me. I am having a problem where the network utility is not saving my WPA key. if I open the network utility, add my key and click ok... everything works fine, but if the interface goes down (by reboot) I have to add the key again. it's saving a hash from the key in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:35] <one_matthias> graphics drivers
[03:35] <morphiend> efren20: ok... then the files should be on the ipod if you are able to play them from the ipod. Now the question is whether or not the db is getting updated. Have you updated the firmware on your ipod lately?
[03:35] <Starnestommy> Jdaniels: is the package manager open?
[03:36] <danbhfive> Jdaniels: are you running synaptic? or update manager?
[03:36] <Jdaniels> um synaptic, yes
[03:36] <efren20> nop
[03:36] <Starnestommy> Jdaniels: close it then try that command again
[03:36] <efren20> how i do that?
[03:36] <danbhfive> Jdaniels: you have to close those, only one can be open at a time
[03:36] <Jdaniels> danthanks
[03:36] <Newbuntu2> hello
[03:36] <danbhfive> !tab > Jdaniels
[03:36] <Jdaniels> !tab ?
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tab ? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <bazhang> morphiend: the new ipod need libgpod 0.6.0; he needs to wait for Hardy or compile it himself
[03:37] <Newbuntu2> is there any GPS software for lap timing available?
[03:37] <danbhfive> Jdaniels: you should have gotten a pm from ubotu
[03:37] <efren20> how do i compile it my self i tried in the wbe you gave me but got lost can you help me?
[03:37] <techno_freak> Jdaniels, you can hit tab to complete nicks.. try dan+tab ;)
[03:37] <efren20> guide me throught hte steps?
[03:37] <Jdaniels> danbhfive: ha oh thanks for the tab comment
[03:37] <efren20> bazhang:please
[03:38] <morphiend> 60gb black isn't new
[03:38] <efren20> no 60gb
[03:38] <morphiend> that's the same as the 30gb's and that's what I have and it works fine
[03:38] <efren20> i have 160gb
[03:38] <morphiend> oh..
[03:38] <bazhang> 80 GB and 160GB are morphiend
[03:38] <danbhfive> Jdaniels: I think I missed a comment of yours awhile back...  I really pay attention to the highlighting :)
[03:38] <morphiend> then yeah, you do need the new version :-P
[03:38] <morphiend> I thought I saw 60gb
[03:38] <bazhang> heh
[03:38] <efren20> how do i get the new version
[03:38] <arrow> anyone ever play lincity?
[03:39] <efren20> please just guide me throught it please
[03:39] <Ububegin> anyone knoes how to make the mounted drives hideable :?
[03:39] <morphiend> download the alpha and cross your fingers
[03:39] <Jdaniels> danbhfive: im gonna rm the direcotry and reinstall, so i'll be back when i break something else =)
[03:39] <efren20> whats the alpha
[03:39] <efren20> link please
[03:39] <morphiend> Hardy Heron Alpha
[03:39] <efren20> in package mangaer?
[03:39] <Jdaniels> danbhfive: the purge worked this time.
[03:39] <insta> is it worth asking for IRC help if i'm running hardy?
[03:39] <Ububegin> efren20: Alpha: Untested and first edition of a software
[03:39] <Starnestommy> insta: #ubuntu+1 is usualyl the best place to ask about hardy
[03:40] <bazhang> sure insta just in #ubuntu+1
[03:40] <dnusim> Ubuntu freezes whenever I unplug the power chord... any ideas?
[03:40] <efren20> morphiend:where do i get it in package manger?
[03:40] <Daisuke_Ido> dnusim: i'm hoping you're on a laptop, because otherwise you're going to get laughed at
[03:40] <bpd1069> heh
[03:40] <dnusim> Daisuke_Ido: =)
[03:41] <Jdaniels> danbhfive: whats the best way for reinstalling firefox?
[03:41] <blag> that doesnt look promising
[03:41] <blag> or maybe im just a pessimist
[03:41] <jamesrdorn> Daisuke_Ido, LMFAO
[03:41] <silver> hi
[03:41] <morphiend> efren20: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron is the link to the wiki about hardy
[03:41] <Stwange> how do you find out processor etc. stats from the terminal?
[03:42] <morphiend> as with Alpha software, your mileage will greatly very
[03:42] <Fryguy--> Stwange: look at /proc/cpuinfo
[03:42] <bazhang> Stwange: lshw
[03:42] <RyanPrior> Hardy is awesome, especially if you like finding bugs. :-)
[03:42] <Stwange> thanks :)
[03:42] <Daisuke_Ido> seriously though, it's got to be power management settings, i just don't know much about them
[03:42] <mneptok> Stwange: cat /dev/proc/cpuinfo
[03:42] <morphiend> you may want to check the backports for gutsy to see if libgpod has been backported (or request the backport)
[03:42] <mneptok> 89 threghioear eghqa
[03:42] <sfears> hello.. looking for some help networking a windows machine thru crossover cable & eth0 while connected to the net via wireless card on wlan2.. any ideas? i can only seem to get one at a time to work requireing a restart each time i make a change to the network settings
[03:43] <Ububegin> ....anyone knoes how to make the mounted drives hideable :?.... nobody knoes the answer
[03:43] <prem> no
[03:43] <Fryguy--> Ububegin: hideable where?
[03:43] <efren20> morphiend:i dont know how to check backport etc.. donnt even know what you are talking about please help me?
[03:43] <mneptok> Ububegin: "hide-able?"
[03:43] <jamesrdorn> model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz mmmm
[03:43] <cnStarz> anyone nkow how to stop my tv from overscanning?
[03:43] <RyanPrior> Ububegin: Do you mean you don't want them to show up on your desktop?
[03:43] <prem> what is terminal
[03:44] <Starnestommy> prem: Applications > Accessories > Terminal?
[03:44] <Ububegin> Fryguy: I mean the mounted drives on the desktop... I want them them to be hideable...
[03:44] <Fryguy--> Ububegin: gconf and edit apps->nautilus->desktop and uncheck "volumes visible"
[03:44] <Newbuntu2> anyone know how to fix:  checking for XML_ParserCreate in -lexpat... no
[03:44] <Newbuntu2> configure: error: Could not find the Expat library
[03:44] <RyanPrior> prem: Terminal is a command-line for the graphical environment.
[03:44] <morphiend> backports is when a newer version of a package is brought into an older release. Here's the link to enabling access to the backport's repository: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[03:44] <danbhfive> Jdaniels: I would think sudo apt-get install firefox       maybe add a --reinstall
[03:44] <Fryguy--> Newbuntu2: install the expat dev library
[03:44] <RyanPrior> Ububegin: You can do that with gconf-editor
[03:44] <eshaase> why does 'vi' take so long to load when i execute it in a screen session as opposed to outside of screen?
[03:45] <jamesrdorn> eshaase, because 'screen' is to put it nicely... buggy
[03:45] <Fryguy--> eshaase: mine opens up at the same speed wherever I open it (although my vim setup is very customized).  Try running it without opening up any configs (see manpage), to see if that helps, and you can track down the problem from there
[03:45] <efren20> morphiend:can you explain it to me tell me what to do i understand better like that please/
[03:45] <sfears> hello.. looking for some help networking a windows machine thru crossover cable & eth0 while connected to the net via wireless card on wlan2.. any ideas? i can only seem to get one at a time to work requireing a restart each time i make a change to the network settings
[03:46] <Fryguy--> sfears: linux supports this just fine, the gnome network manager tool, however, will not
[03:46] <jamesrdorn> sfears, are both interfaces on the same subnet?
[03:46] <RyanPrior> Ububegin: The setting is apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible
[03:46] <Newbuntu2> Fryguy--: thanks!
[03:46] <Fryguy--> sfears: you'll need to use ifconfig, ifup, and /etc/network/interfaces manually to do this, or just connect everything in your network to the same network segment
[03:46] <sfears> not sure.. i guess that's what i need help with.. should they be on the same subnet?
[03:47] <Fryguy--> Newbuntu2: the package is probably libexpat1-dev, although i'm guessing
[03:47] <Fryguy--> sfears: no
[03:47] <efren20> \morphiend:can you explain it to me tell me what to do i understand better like that please/
[03:47] <morphiend> efren20: I can save you the trouble right now and tell you that it has not been backport'd to gutsy
[03:47] <sfears> network segment Fryguy-- ?
[03:47] <sfears> alright.. separate subnet masks.. check
[03:47] <Ububegin> RyanPrior,FryGuy: I tried gconf in the terminal (but command not found) and i tried searching Applications- > (but cant find nautilus)...
[03:47] <Newbuntu2> Fryguy--: that was it... but now I get   checking whether libcurl is usable... no
[03:47] <Newbuntu2> configure: error: libcurl is needed but not found
[03:47] <Fryguy--> sfears: i mean reconfigure the physical network, so that you don't have 2 separate networks to deal with in ubuntu, which none of the gui tools are going to support
[03:47] <bazhang> efren20: you need to compile it; no backports for that
[03:47] <Newbuntu2> Fryguy--: I install libcurl3, but not enough...
[03:47] <morphiend> If you would like that capability, I recommend reading the backports link I sent earlier and it will tell you (roughly) how to ask for something to be backported.
[03:48] <RyanPrior> Ububegin: You can type nautilus to search for it in gconf-editor/apps
[03:48] <sfears> how do i start that Fryguy-- ?
[03:48] <Fryguy--> Ububegin: it's gconf-editor
[03:48] <efren20> bazhang:can you help me and guide me throught compile in it
[03:48] <prem> what is best media player for ubuntu
[03:48] <Fryguy--> Newbuntu2: you need dev versions of packages if you are compiling source
[03:48] <bazhang> efren20: have you ever compiled anything before?
[03:48] <sfears> i have the network settings window open.. i see both my wired connected & wireless connection are enabled
[03:48] <efren20> no
[03:48] <bazhang> hmm
[03:48] <Fryguy--> prem: mplayer probably, or one of it's derivatives (I personally use smplayer)
[03:48] <efren20> bazhang:but please man
[03:48] <morphiend> otherwise, you need to either install the Alpha (which I don't know how to do off the top of my head) or compile the library from source
[03:48] <Jdaniels> dabhfive: if wanted to rmdir /firefox how would I go about that effectively? in one quick command?
[03:49] <sfears> the wired connection has a subnet mask of <IP_ADDRESS>.. the wireless connection is on auto.. no subnet mask shown
[03:49] <dnusim> Daisuke_Ido: thanks for a good laugh.  Thanks, now my wallpapers of that bikini girls looks great (without all that cluttering).... :D
[03:50] <efren20> bazhang:is that a yes or no please man help me =/
[03:50] <eshaase> Fryguy--: removing my .vimrc didn't help
[03:50] <Wayfarer> Hmmmm
[03:50] <Wayfarer> no sound in Gutsy
[03:51] <Fryguy--> eshaase: there's more to running configuration-less than removing your .vimrc
[03:51] <RyanPrior> Ububegin: The no-icon desktop is nice. :-)
[03:51] <Fryguy--> eshaase: like I said take a look at the manpage for the command-line flag that will tell vim to ignore all configs
[03:51] <danbhfive> Jdaniels: after you have done whatever, you may want to run this for good measure: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^               and dont forget the ^,   I gota run, later
[03:51] <Newbuntu2> anyone know how to fix this:  checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.2.0... no
[03:51] <Newbuntu2> *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
[03:51] <Newbuntu2> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[03:51] <Newbuntu2> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.
[03:51] <Newbuntu2> configure: error: needs GTK+ 2.2.0
[03:51] <FloodBot1> Newbuntu2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:52] <Fryguy--> Newbuntu2: install dev version of libgtk  (what are you compiling btw)
[03:52] <nickrud> Newbuntu2: install libgtk2.0-dev
[03:52] <deeproot> if i watch a movie using any player when i'm done i'm disconnected from the internet? any ideas
[03:52] <Ububegin> RyanPrior: yeah, all that cluttering ... gets a bit pain in the ass sometimes....
[03:52] <Johnson> hey guys my window borders have just dissappeared
[03:52] <Starnestommy> Newbuntu2: install libgtk2.0 and libgtk2.0-dev
[03:52] <Johnson> how do i get them bac,
[03:52] <Fryguy--> Johnson: probably hit alt-g2 and run metacity
[03:52] <lolwutpear> this probably an extremely dumb question.  i apologize in advance.  but im trying to copy some files from a cd.  ive put the cd in the drive but i cant see the files on the disk
[03:52] <nickrud> Johnson: compiz?  gtk-window-decorator --replace
[03:52] <bazhang> efren20: this is not really an irc type thing--you just paste the commands into the terminal and that does it for you--the link is here--> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=658523
[03:53] <Johnson> alright ill try those
[03:53] <Fryguy--> lolwutpear: it'll be in /media somewhere (probably /media/cdrom)
[03:53] <sfears> would the loopback interface be causing any problems using the two different netowrk cards?
[03:53] <Ububegin> lolwutpear: CD prob screwed up
[03:53] <silas428> is there an upgrade to evolution that allows you to download images from your e-mail?
[03:53] <limp> I have questions about switching to KDE, will someone help me answer them?
[03:53] <Fryguy--> lolwutpear: you'll probably have to either mount it, or make nautilus do it for you by navigating to "computer" and then double clicking on the appropriate drive
[03:53] <lolwutpear> well, i just installed ubuntu from the cd
[03:53] <Newbuntu2> Fryguy--: Viking, it's GPS softwawre
[03:53] <pyrak> recommendations for open source project management software?
[03:53] <pyrak> (web-based, for collaboration)
[03:53] <Fryguy--> pyrak: trac
[03:53] <Ububegin> pyrak: trac
[03:53] <Fryguy--> I BEAT YOU
[03:54] <Fryguy--> :)
[03:54] <lolwutpear> i went to /media/cdrom
[03:54] <Ububegin> :D .. my prev company also used it
[03:54] <lolwutpear> did an ls, but saw nothing :/
[03:54] <Newbuntu2> Fryguy--: http://viking.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
[03:54] <Fryguy--> lolwutpear: like i said, you'll either have to mount it, or have nautilus do it for you (see previous statement)
[03:55] <Fryguy--> limp: just ask questions, don't ask to ask
[03:55] <Johnson> nickrud
[03:55] <Johnson> it works but wheneveri close terminal i lose them again
[03:55] <Fryguy--> limp: btw, there is a wiki page with everything you need to know about switching a  base ubuntu install to different "levels" of kde
[03:55] <nickrud> Johnson: sorry, should have said alt-f2 gtk-window-decorator --replace
[03:55] <mike9682000> evening! I cannot see or mount any of my secondary IDE devices in Nautilus. Could anyone help?
[03:56] <simps> Hello all. I am trying to setup Samba so I can view files on my windows from ubuntu. Right now, I can see files on Ubuntu from windows. On ubuntu, i can only see the windows computer, but when i try to access it under the Network folder, it says that the files cannot be displayed.
[03:56] <Fryguy--> limp: googling "install kde on ubuntu" should give you everything you need to know in the first 5 hits
[03:56] <limp> Fryguy, well not really
[03:56] <Fryguy--> limp: so ask a question then
[03:56] <bazhang> limp: you want kde? just install kubuntu-desktop
[03:56] <limp> Fryguy, i was just wondering what would happen to my gnome programs if i switch to KDE
[03:56] <Fryguy--> limp: nothing
[03:56] <Fryguy--> they'll still be there and work just fine
[03:56] <bazhang> limp they will still be there
[03:57] <nickrud> ditto
[03:57] <Johnson> nickrud, thanks
[03:57] <limp> Fryguy, still work fine...? then can i run KDE programs on gnome? what's the whole difference, layout ?
[03:57] <Fryguy--> limp: yes
[03:58] <Fryguy--> limp: KDE and GNOME are just 2 different base environments to work from. They provide a comprehensive set of tools that function 'as one', if you will.  They also each use different gui libraries (qt for kde, gtk for gnome, which will cause some visual differences if they are run side by side)
[03:58] <mike9682000> evening! I cannot see or mount any of my secondary IDE devices in Nautilus. Could anyone help?
[03:58] <regeya> aye, kde apps work fine under gnome, and gnome apps under kde.  right now I'm running kde, but also running compiz-fusion, awn, firefox, and quod libet.
[03:58] <Fryguy--> mike9682000: wanna be a bit more specific?
[03:59] <nickrud> mike9682000: do you see them with  sudo fdisk -l ?
[03:59] <limp> Fryguy, oh and while im at it, what wireless program do you suggest..? i just tried out network selector and wifi radar but none of them work... they just wont connect to any of my wifis. I've already searched the net
[03:59] <Fryguy--> limp: I don't run linux on a machine that uses wireless, all of my machines with wireless are either running osx, freebsd, or windows
[03:59] <Fryguy--> actually wait, none of them are on freebsd anymore either
[03:59] <mcspiff> question, I had a repo in apt.sources list. I installed some packages from this. Ive now removed and want to downgrade to the packages from the repos currently in my apt.sources. Is this possible/Does it make sense?
[04:00] <mike9682000> Ubuntu loads from a SATA; I gave two IDE hard drives with 3 partitions each. Nautilus does not see the HDD on secondary IDE. Does that answer your Q?
[04:00] <Fryguy--> mcspiff: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade should take care of them
[04:00] <alex_> iam lost
[04:00] <alex_> alguien parla en castellano, jajajaj ??
[04:00] <axisys> i am failing to install acroread http://rafb.net/p/JHpnjd39.html
[04:01] <mike9682000> fryguy: Ubuntu loads from a SATA; I gave two IDE hard drives with 3 partitions each. Nautilus does not see the HDD on secondary IDE. Does that answer your Q?
[04:01] <efren20> is there any drawing program where you draw something and could make it live like walk fire etc...
[04:01] <limp> Fryguy, Ok. Do you know anything about the gstreamer plugin bad? Can't find it and i'd really want the equalizer on exaile
[04:01] <Fryguy--> mike9682000: so you don't have an hdc device, but you have an hda device?
[04:01] <axisys> how do I force it?
[04:01] <axisys> sudo apt-get install -f did not help
[04:01] <Starnestommy> alex_: try #ubuntu-es ?
[04:01] <Fryguy--> limp: uh not really
[04:01] <bazhang> alex spanish? /j #ubuntu-es
[04:01] <nickrud> axisys: do you know exactly what packages you got?
[04:01] <axisys> acroread
[04:01] <limp> Fryguy, ok =) how do i revert to gnome if KDE doesn't please me?
[04:01] <axisys> nickrud: acroread
[04:02] <Fryguy--> limp: again, plenty of directions on the internet for that, but just pick the gnome session in whatever login manager you are using
[04:02] <Starnestommy> limp: just change the default session type in gdm/kdm
[04:02] <nickrud> axisys: argh, wrong guy. I haven't run acroread since evince started working right
[04:02] <Fryguy--> i don't even run acrobat reader on windows...
[04:02] <cowo_ganteng> .dal.net
[04:02] <limp> Fryguy, you can choose between Gnome or KDE before logging in?
[04:02] <Fryguy--> limp: yes
[04:02] <mike9682000> fryguy: in fstab I have: /dev/sda1 /dev/sda5 /dev/hdb .dev/hda (hdb and hda are the CDROMs) and /dev/floppy
[04:03] <axisys> nickrud: well is it really acroread that is the problem? i thought it is dpkg that is failing to overwrite? no?
[04:03] <efren20> is there any drawing program where you draw something and could make it live like walk fire etc...
[04:03] <mike9682000> fryguy I also have a second SATA
[04:03] <Fryguy--> mike9682000: so you have neither of your IDE hard rives?
[04:03] <mcspiff> Fryguy--: no go
[04:03] <limp> Fryguy, awesome. I'll stop nagging u guys with my rediculous questions now =) thanks again =)
[04:03] <mike9682000> I have the primary only and the two SATAs
[04:03] <mike9682000> I cannot mount the secondary
[04:04] <nickrud> axisys: yes, that's what happening.  Could you give me the output of apt-cache policy for each of acroread-plugins mozilla-acroread acroread and acroreader-enu ?
[04:04] <Fryguy--> mike9682000: you just said you had 2 cdrom drives, and didn't list any ide hard disk drives, so i'm a bit confused now, if you could clarify that would be great
[04:04] <nickrud> mcspiff: do you know exactly what packages you got from the other repo?
[04:05] <mcspiff> nickrud: yup
[04:05] <mike9682000> My computer has: 2x SATA, 2X IDE, 2X CDROM and one floppy The IDEs are connected to the primary master and primary slave, the CDROMs to secondary master and secondary slave respectively
[04:06] <axisys> nickrud: here u go http://rafb.net/p/2HH3TC28.html
[04:06] <bazhang> only one floppy? ;]
[04:06] <Fryguy--> mike9682000: either your primary ide controller is on a different interface than your secondary controller, or it's disabled in bios, because if it were enabled, your cd drives would be hdc and hdd, not hda and hdb
[04:06] <Fryguy--> regardless of whether it found the drives on the controller or not
[04:07] <nickrud> mcspiff: you need to find each of those in synaptic , and use package->force version on each. Once you've done that, you shouldn't have any issues
[04:07] <axisys> nickrud: was it for me too?
[04:07] <nickrud> axisys: where'd you get acroreader-unu from?
[04:07] <mcspiff> nickrud: sounds good. Still seems weirdest to me that you cant force apt to do a "use newest version in repo even if they're older"
[04:07] <nickrud> -enu*
[04:08] <nickrud> mcspiff: it goes by version number, not date
[04:08] <ghost> i need help after compiling a kernel. how do I make an initrd image so i can boot from grub?
[04:08] <axisys> nickrud: i was just reading this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy
[04:08]  * Fryguy-- has never compiled a kernel from scratch in ubuntu so i can't help you there
[04:09] <mcspiff> nickrud: well, this issue im having is the version installed has a higher version that the one in the repo. Same arguement, wrong term.
[04:09] <efren20> is there any drawing program where you draw something and could make it live like walk fire etc...
[04:09] <axisys> nickrud: so that means media ubuntu
[04:09] <Fryguy--> efren20: are you referring to something specific?
[04:09] <nickrud> !kernel | ghost (this has instructions on initramfs iirc)
[04:09] <ubotu> ghost (this has instructions on initramfs iirc): The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[04:09] <Fryguy--> efren20: sounds like the draw fire plugin from compiz that you saw on a youtube video :)
[04:10] <n8tuser> efren20--> if you are an advanced blender user, you can do those animations
[04:10] <kamodo> hey
[04:10] <mike9682000> fryguy: /dev/disk/by-id DOES see the secondary IDE label
[04:10] <axisys> nickrud: if i can remove it I can start over those steps
[04:10] <axisys> nickrud: must have screwed some step there
[04:10] <nickrud> axisys: yes, that's what I was about to suggest
[04:10] <axisys> nickrud: :-)
[04:10] <mike9682000> furthermore I can work with all in Vista
[04:11] <l33t1st> !ghost
[04:11] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[04:11] <joeytwiddle> (15:35:24) [+Ghostness] imo i have no opinions
[04:11] <kamodo> quick question... im a bit of a ubuntu newb, but just wanna know: how do i set my refresh rate to 60 at boot time for gnome desktop (beascially, booting works, but once i get into ubuntu w/ gui, all i see is lines
[04:11] <axisys> nickrud: so how do I remove it?
[04:11] <nickrud> axisys: sudo apt-get remove --purge acroreader-enu
[04:11] <axisys> nickrud: wait let me try to remove.. not sure if I tried that.. i only tried to overwrite
[04:12] <dn4> I just put in an older gfx card, b/c my old one broke. How do I update my xorg.cfg to use the new one?
[04:13] <Fryguy--> axisys: you probably want to use dpkg directly
[04:13] <nickrud> dn4: a quicky would be sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg
[04:13] <Fryguy--> dn4: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to make the correct changes :)
[04:13] <mike9682000>  fryguy: /dev/disk/by-id DOES see the secondary IDE label
[04:13] <nickrud> Fryguy--: once it's in the dpkg database, apt-get will remove it
[04:13] <Fryguy--> nickrud: he doesn't want to remove it though, he wants to force reinstall the version from current repository
[04:13] <kamodo> No idea: lemme rephrase, how do i edit xorg.conf at command line?
[04:13] <Fryguy--> or so i thought
[04:14] <axisys> nickrud: worked
[04:14] <Fryguy--> kamodo: open it up with a text editor..
[04:14] <axisys> nickrud: thnx .... oohooo!!
[04:14] <Fryguy--> vim works
[04:14] <nickrud> Fryguy--: he's got that from somewhere else, needs to replace it with the medibuntu stuff
[04:14] <kamodo> theres a command line text editor?
[04:14] <Fryguy--> so does emacs, and at least a few others
[04:14] <Fryguy--> kamodo: there's several
[04:14] <Starnestommy> kamodo: vim, nano, emacs, ed, sed, and some others
[04:14] <Fryguy--> lol sed :)
[04:14] <Fryguy--> that's pushing it a bit
[04:14] <nickrud> hex
[04:14] <Starnestommy> ed and sed are very minimalistic
[04:14] <axisys> nickrud: take it back.. said too soon
[04:15]  * nickrud has forgotten the name of the hex editor ;(
[04:15] <dn4> damn all the text on my screen is blue now
[04:15] <kamodo> ty, vim worked by default install thanks
[04:15] <dn4> my gfx card is wack on crack
[04:15] <nickrud> dn4: what kind of card is it?
[04:15] <dn4> nickrud: voodoo3 gfx
[04:15] <Fryguy--> hahaha kamodo just opened up vim and doesn't know how to use it, this should be interesting
[04:15] <axisys> nickrud: i ran this `sudo aptitude install acroread acroread-plugins acroread-escript
[04:15]  * Fryguy-- waits for the "wtf i can't type text" statement to come
[04:16] <axisys> nickrud: and I get this http://rafb.net/p/uIEbB166.html
[04:16] <nickrud> dn4: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg will do it, had one of those once
[04:16] <axisys> nickrud: looks like it did try to install the plugin before core app ..duh!
[04:17] <kamodo> heh, vim should be fine, its not hard to find documentation on it once i can get it open
[04:17] <Fryguy--> i use vim 8+ hours a day at work :)
[04:17] <nickrud> axisys: those are some screwed up packages it looks like. Try just installing acroread by itself first
[04:18] <orionfyre> Where can I find a tutorial on how to add a command to the right click context menu of AVI files?
[04:18] <dn4> nickrud: what do I do after typing in that command?
[04:18] <Fryguy--> orionfyre: what specifically do you want to do?
[04:18] <nickrud> dn4: restart X, that should set you up with a default video
[04:18] <axisys> nickrud: thats what I have trying now
[04:19] <hdevalence> I have had a problem with wine (this bug http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10674 ). It says it's been fixed upstream (upream of X i think). How would I get the upstream version?
[04:19] <orionfyre> fryguy: I want to add a command that will runa  mencoder command line
[04:19] <dn4> nickrud: thanks
[04:19] <Fryguy--> orionfyre: check out nautilus scripts (google that should get you a good base)
[04:19] <Fryguy--> g-scripts probably already has a solution for that (g-scripts.sourceforce.net)
[04:20] <kamodo> wow... so vim isnt just as easy as write the info, and save :/ lol (checking out a command sheet) welll.. thats fun
[04:20] <Fryguy--> kamodo: :)
[04:20] <orionfyre> fryguy: __/|\__ thank you for showing me the first step on the path to my continued enlightenment that is Linux ;)
[04:20] <vALIEN> hey everyone... i got gutsy running smooth, never used wine...wondering if it is worth getting.. any opinions?
[04:20] <hdevalence> kamodo: it's way 1337er though
[04:20] <nickrud> hdevalence: if you're talking about a later version of X , you'd have to compile it or use hardy
[04:20] <Fryguy--> kamodo: vim is extremely powerful and fast after you get used to the way it does things
[04:20] <axisys> nickrud: check this when I try to remove it says its not there.. when I try to install it says dpkg error
[04:20] <Fryguy--> kamodo: like I said, I use it 8+ hours a day as my programming environment of choice
[04:20] <kamodo> well, i just need to set vertfrefresh from 43-60 to 60
[04:20] <hdevalence> nickrud: what version of X does hardy use?
[04:20] <Fryguy--> hdevalence: #ubuntu+1
[04:21] <hdevalence> Fryguy--: thanks
[04:21] <nickrud> axisys: complete output of the error please. (although I have no Idea why I'm working on a non-free piece of software from medibuntu)
[04:21] <kamodo> yeah, im a windows 2k guy... (dont laugh, im slowly making the switch
[04:21] <Fryguy--> kamodo: ironically i'm switching away from linux :)
[04:21] <kamodo> okay, i scrolled down, and replaced the text.. will that work with vim?
[04:22] <kamodo> just gotta save, sorry if im being too annoying, hah, im glad you guys are friendly here
[04:22] <tritium> Fryguy--: why would you want to do a thing like that?
[04:22] <Fryguy--> tritium: switching to freebsd :/
[04:22] <axisys> nickrud: i thought i pasted the complete output.. it seems to be dpkg issue.. could happend to any app..
[04:22] <kamodo> http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/vimcheat.html
[04:22] <tritium> Fryguy--: ah, really?
[04:22] <kamodo> is the command line text editor command cheat sheet.
[04:22] <kamodo> not very friendly
[04:22] <nickrud> axisys: the complete error from sudo apt-get install acroread
[04:22] <axisys> nickrud: here is the paste http://rafb.net/p/v40QJh80.html
[04:23] <Fryguy--> tritium: yah, been playing with it in a virtual machine, and I got a new 8-disk raid array coming for my closet-server (media storage for the house), and i'm probably going to switch the OS on it to freebsd and go from there
[04:23] <Fryguy--> kamodo: you can use nano or something for now, which will be easier for you to get started with
[04:23] <Fryguy--> nano is installed by default i think
[04:23] <nickrud> axisys: are you sure you ran apt-get remove --purge acroreader-enu ?
[04:23] <vALIEN> hey sorry ... just asked about wine.. anyone have any opinions?
[04:23] <mrpockets> how do you add more desktops in compiz?
[04:23] <axisys> nickrud: yes.. it says that pkg not found
[04:24] <axisys> nickrud: pasting
[04:24] <nhlinux> I'm having a fustrating time with my lappty that has a bcm43xx wifi adapter. The following error message appears in dmesg "bcm43xx: IRQ_READY timeout" then my wifi stops working. What can I try to resolve this problem.
[04:24] <dn4ia> nickrud, thank you for helping me out there. I have no acquired a way to see visuals which are changing subtle colors and makes for a psychedelic experience on a whole.
[04:24] <Odd-rationale> mrpockets: Do you have compizconfig-settings-manager?
[04:24] <mrpockets> yeah
[04:24] <mrpockets> its in general options
[04:24] <mrpockets> thanks :)
[04:24] <kamodo> hmmm, wow.. im gonna try nano
[04:24] <kamodo> hope i didnt break anything :P, i live i learn
[04:24] <axisys> nickrud: http://rafb.net/p/eF660m14.html
[04:24] <nickrud> dn4ia: heh
[04:24] <Fryguy--> kamodo: don't really feel like holding your hand through the initial vim struggles :)
[04:25] <nhlinux>  uname -a
[04:25] <nhlinux> Linux dperry-laptop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:25] <Kumool> if i take out the ubuntu uninstaller does the windows boot or grub goes away? at least with the win option
[04:25] <Odd-rationale> Can pidgin minimize to tray on exit?
[04:25] <kamodo> yeah, i just need something easy, and something i dont need to pester ppl with too much
[04:25] <kamodo> ahh, Nano is something i can work with
[04:26] <nickrud> axisys: DoH!  adobereader-enu , what do they call reading something you expect but not there?
[04:26] <vALIEN> surprise
[04:26] <axisys> nickrud: lol!
[04:27] <axisys> nickrud: removing...
[04:27] <ShadowApex> Hey I'm trying to migrate my Ubuntu home server to another computer. The new computer has a raid array. If I just copy the entire contents of my previous installation onto a new installation on the raided hard drives... will that work?
[04:27] <axisys> nickrud: removed..
[04:27] <Fryguy--> ShadowApex: probably not
[04:27] <nickrud> axisys: now try the install again
[04:27] <axisys> nickrud: lets try acroread again?!
[04:27] <axisys> nickrud: heh
[04:27] <Fryguy--> ShadowApex: there's a certain amount of hurdle jumping involved in booting from a raid array
[04:27] <nhlinux> ShadowApex: it should sorta work. How are you going to transfer the data from one drive to the RAID array?
[04:27] <axisys> nickrud: and....(drum roll)... success!!
[04:28] <nickrud> axisys: once again, pebcak ;)
[04:28] <axisys> nickrud: hehe
[04:28] <Kumool> Odd-rationale, there shud be a pidgin icon in the sys tray just click it there
[04:28] <ShadowApex> nhlinux: it has 1 ide channel so I was going to hook it up, mount them both from a live cd and transfer
[04:28] <nhlinux> are you going to dd from one drive to the other?
[04:28] <axisys> nickrud: i cannot beleive u helped me with non-free pkg... (i am just teasing you my friend)
[04:29] <ShadowApex> Fryguy: it's hardware raid, not fake raid. my new installation of Ubuntu on the new server boots flawlessly with RAID5
[04:29] <ShadowApex> nhlinux: dd?
[04:29] <Odd-rationale> Kumool: Yeah, but when i close my conversation window it does not minize to tray.
[04:29] <Fryguy--> i'm surprised hardware raid works directly out of the box as well, but OK
[04:29] <nhlinux> dd is a UNIX command to copy raw data from device to another
[04:29] <Fryguy--> ShadowApex: shouldn't have any problems then
[04:29] <nhlinux> it's like ghost
[04:29] <ShadowApex> Fryguy: hmm... I guess the worst that could happen is that I just reinstall
[04:30] <Fryguy--> Odd-rationale: if you want to minimize to tray, click the minimize button, if you want to close click the close button....
[04:30] <ShadowApex> nhlinux: ahh... i was just going to cp -r /media/hda1
[04:30] <Fryguy--> ShadowApex: definitely don't do that :)
[04:30] <Kumool> Odd-rationale, the conv window the main window u mean or the conv window that holds conversations
[04:30] <nhlinux> example... dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/sda
[04:30] <Kumool> ?
[04:31] <nhlinux> In that example, I just imaged the old drive to my RAID array
[04:31] <Odd-rationale> Kumool: The one that holds the conversation. The main window goes to tray, I beleive
[04:31] <ShadowApex> Fryguy/nhlinux: Could I just use gparted and cpoy the entire partition to the raid array?
[04:31] <nhlinux> nope
[04:31] <nhlinux> gparted won't do that
[04:32] <ShadowApex> nhlinux: why? When I run "fdisk -l" I see the entire RAID array as 1 hard drive
[04:32] <Kumool> Odd-rationale, i dont think that can be done unless u use an app such as all-tray tho i cud be wrong
[04:32] <nhlinux> if you want to replicate the contents of the original drive (including the boot sector and partition table) to your RAID array, dd is the command to use.
[04:33] <Fryguy--> fdisk/gparted/etc are for managing partitions on a single disk, they don't have any support for migrating a partition from one disk to another
[04:33] <Odd-rationale> Kumool: OK. Thanks!
[04:33] <kamodo> another question about xorg.conf    IS VertRefresh == Refresh Rate?
[04:33] <ShadowApex> Fryguy: You can copy partitions to another disk in gparted
[04:33] <nickrud> kamodo: there's vertical refresh and horizontal sync
[04:33] <talcite> does anyone know a lot about the AIGLX or XGL bases?
[04:33] <Fryguy--> kamodo: vertical refresh rate, yes
[04:33] <talcite> are they supported or necessary?
[04:33] <kamodo> awesome, thanks
[04:33] <nhlinux> I've never seen that featyre before
[04:34] <ShadowApex> nhlinux: ok, so if I use dd; what would be the syntax to that? Say my RAID array is /dev/sda1 and my old hdd is /dev/hda1
[04:34] <talcite> I'm using compiz and FSAA 8x...
[04:35] <nhlinux> dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda (if you want to copy from sector 0 to the very last sector of /dev/hda, the first drive).
[04:35] <nickrud> talcite: one or the other is required for compiz ...
[04:35] <ShadowApex> nhlinux: ok thanks. I'll go ahead and try that now
[04:35] <ShadowApex> I'll let you know if it works ;D
[04:36] <talcite> nickrud: I have an nvidia card... am I using AIGLX?
[04:36] <kamodo> INPUT SIGNAL  	Video  	RGB analog (75 ohms, 0.7 Vp-p); DVI-D (TMDS, 100 ohms)
[04:36] <kamodo> Sync 	H/V separated (TTL), composite, sync-on-green
[04:36] <kamodo> Frequency 	Fh: 30~82kHz, Fv: 50~75Hz
[04:36] <nickrud> talcite: yes
[04:36] <talcite> I see
[04:36] <kamodo> oops wrong channel
[04:36] <talcite> hmm I need to find another way to increase performance
[04:36] <talcite> any ideas?
[04:36] <nhlinux> ShadowApex: /sbin/dumpe2fs works as well.
[04:36] <nickrud> talcite: reduce FSAA . Otherwise, I know little to nothing about nvidia
[04:37] <talcite> =/ aww
[04:37] <nickrud> talcite: or maybe 800x600 ;)
[04:37] <talcite> -_-'
[04:37] <talcite> LCD lol, no choice
[04:38] <Kumool> if i take out the ubuntu uninstaller does the windows boot or grub goes away? at least with the win option?
[04:38] <gnychis> does Gutsy come with any PPoE connection software?
[04:38] <talcite> yeah, I'm already using only 8x FSAA, not 16x like I wanted =/
[04:38] <nhlinux> Kumool: I'm a bit confused by that question. Please restate
[04:38] <Odd-rationale> Kumool: Are you talking about wubi?
[04:39] <Fryguy--> exit
[04:39] <Fryguy--> blah wrong window :(
[04:39] <nickrud> gnychis: I used to use pppoeconf , and pon poff . But then I got smart and let the modem handle it, I would configure at <IP_ADDRESS> (or whatever the modem/router address was)
[04:39] <talcite> maybe I should buy an 8800gt =P
[04:40] <hectorj1> hola
[04:40] <luckyshot> hey guys, for some reasonw hen i boot into xubuntu it wont go into startx anymore, even after i manually enter "startx"
[04:40] <Kumool> yeah i installed wubi from the cd and now everytime i start windows the uninstaller of it comes up and asks if i want to make a backup of ubuntu or w/e... if i uninstall it does the grub function to select boot windows gets erased?
[04:40] <hdevalence> is there a way to install xorg7.3 in gutsy?
[04:41] <kamodo> Okay, so I set my HorizSync/VertRefresh to the specifications on my monitor, and now I'm getting signal out of range.
[04:41] <kamodo> didnt change resolution info
[04:41] <acxty> Hi, I want to connect a datashow on my computer but the FN key for the video output doesn't work is there a way to activate the lcd and monitor output
[04:42] <Odd-rationale> Kumool: To my knowledge, wubi does not use grub, I could be wrong, though...
[04:42] <Kumool> k since i installed wubi first and then xubuntu i tho it wud b that well ok thx im barely using win if anythin goes wrong
[04:43] <talcite> hey when using compiz, do you guys get a situation where the windows won't stop wobbling?
[04:43] <phynix> that sounds really weird
[04:43] <Kumool> does it shake or wobble?
[04:43] <Kumool> talcite, does it shake or wobble?
[04:44] <acxty> I am trying to activate the CRT output on my laptop, anyone?
[04:44] <talcite> shake I guess
[04:44] <talcite> what's the difference Kumool?
[04:45] <amenado> acxty-> isnt there like a Fn key to activate both?
[04:45] <Kumool> well on som old monitors when it shakes it means that theres a phone around or something... but since its with that app specifically i dunno
[04:45] <talcite> ohh, no it's an LCD
[04:45] <acxty> amenado, the problem is that the FN Key doesn't work
[04:45] <Odd-rationale> talcite: Is it mostly a maximized window or a window near the edges or panels?
[04:45] <talcite> yes, its a maximized window
[04:46] <amenado> acxty-> you have a bad key on your keyboard? or you need to activate that in your bios?
[04:46] <talcite> Odd-rationale: Does it have to do with the edge attraction?
[04:46] <acxty> on windows it works fine
[04:46] <Odd-rationale> talcite: I think so...
[04:46] <acxty> and the other FN Keys also work fine, except that one
[04:46] <t0mb0y> does anyone know where i can look to find out why when i do a sudo su, it does not ask the user for a password.  /etc/sudoers doesnt have anything uncommented to allow no passwd.
[04:46] <Odd-rationale> talcite: It gets quite annoying...
[04:46] <brandonc503> hey all using ubuntu fawn and dont know how to get monitor to go to larger resolution. selections are only 800 600, but im sure monitor can do 1600 1200....
[04:46] <talcite> it does
[04:47] <talcite> do you have any ideas about what settings work well to avoid it?
[04:47] <brandonc503> friend had me edit file before and got 1600 1200 but now that wont work
[04:47] <luckyshot> hey guys, for some reason when i boot into xubuntu it wont go into startx anymore, even after i manually enter "startx"
[04:47] <nhlinux> bcm43xx: IRQ_READY timeout, then my wireless craps out. Is there a fix for Ubuntu 7.10?
[04:47] <phynix> talcite: do you mean compiz settings
[04:47] <talcite> phynix: yes
[04:47] <Ninesvnsicks> lol Kamodo can't get the refresh rate to work :(
[04:48] <phynix> talcite: friction idd it for me
[04:48] <Odd-rationale> talcite: Do you have snapping windows enbaled?
[04:48] <talcite> phynix: what did you set it to?
[04:48] <phynix> well if you turn it higher
[04:48] <talcite> Odd-rationale: I do. It's actually very hard to work without snapping =/
[04:48] <phynix> they wobble less
[04:49] <talcite> I see...
[04:49] <talcite> hmm
[04:49] <vampirefrog> hi. I'm trying to fix my debian installation with ubuntu. so I don't write the iso to a cd, I'm using vmware to boot ubuntu from windows. I also set vmware up to use the physical hard drive. however, I can't see any /dev/hda* from within ubuntu
[04:49] <vampirefrog> i tried modprobe ide-disk, but that didn't work
[04:49] <phynix> i found that out by accident when i was scrolling through and it made it really low and i couldn't click on a window
[04:49] <LSD|Ninja> How do you define a Key1+Key2 shortcut in the keyboard shortcut editor? Pressin Win and L (for Lock Screen) puts in "Super L" which allows it to be triggered just by pressing the Win key
[04:50] <Fryguy--> vampirefrog: see if /dev/sda exists, you might have SATA disks instead of ide
[04:50] <vampirefrog> yes it seems to be there. let me try to mount it
[04:50] <BerkeleyLinuxUse> what's up room?
[04:50] <BerkeleyLinuxUse> how's it going today in linux landia?
[04:50] <vampirefrog> Fryguy--: yeah, that worked. thanks :)
[04:50] <LSD|Ninja> Fryguy--: or ATA disks operating as SCSI for some reason ;)
[04:51] <Fryguy--> LSD|Ninja: whatever, it's a virtual machine, i've seen it do weirder things
[04:51] <Frogzoo> LSD|Ninja: try 'alt a' for instance
[04:51] <phynix> talcite: did that help at all
[04:51] <Frogzoo> LSD|Ninja: Ctrl+Alt+A etc.
[04:52] <LSD|Ninja> Frogzoo: I kinda want Win+L because that's how it's done in Windows
[04:52] <Darkmystere> err i have the new ati drivers with AIGLX how do i use Compiz-Fusion says no composite..
[04:52] <Darkmystere> when i try and enable compiz.
[04:53] <talcite> phynix: not really, if the friction gets too high, it becomes impossible to drag the windows =/
[04:53] <talcite> sorry
[04:53] <talcite> thanks for trying though
[04:53] <phynix> anytime
[04:54] <vampirefrog> ok now I chroot'ed into my linux hard-drive root partition, and I'm trying to reinstall grub but if I call 'grub-install /dev/sda' it says "/dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.", and if I try 'grub-install /dev/hda' it says "Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub \n The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."
[04:54] <phynix> talcit: what happens if you turn off wobbly windows
[04:55] <phynix> talcite: what happens if you turn off wobbly windows
[04:55] <Newbuntu2> I'm trying to record video and audio from a PVR card. I can record it via VideoLan, etc, but I was wondering if there was a better tool that would also timestamp and such so I can synchronize the different streams together
[04:55] <vampirefrog> basically I need grub installed on /dev/hda (which is now /dev/sda) :)
[04:55] <prettyricky> Hey guys can I connect my external hard drive to my ubuntu machine without anything getting lost
[04:55] <Odd-rationale> prettyricky: Most of the time, yes
[04:56] <prettyricky> have you tried it by any chance?
[04:56] <danakin> prettyricky: ive done it with my seagate 400g, no probs
[04:56] <Odd-rationale> prettyricky: Yes I have, ntfs fat32 and ext3
[04:56] <Darkmystere> Also, Does anyone here remeber how i got sound working in Ubuntu..?
[04:57] <kamodo> okay, im still stuck, anyone know what the command for boot line is for setting refresh rate to 60? i used refresh_rate=60 in the livecd boot options and it worked fine
[04:57] <prettyricky> ok great thanks guys!
[04:58] <Odd-rationale> prettyricky: In theory, it should work just fine, but don't blame me if something screws up ;)
[04:58] <prettyricky> thank you. I wouldn't
[04:58] <nickrud> prettyricky: just be sure to eject every partition on the external if you have more than one :)
[04:59] <prettyricky> ok
[05:00] <trentlott> quit
[05:00] <phynix> has anyone had their graphics card blacklisted by compiz fusion
[05:00]  * nickrud finally can get rid of windows
[05:00] <Pegoretti> someone from brazil ?
[05:01] <nickrud> !br | Pegoretti
[05:01] <ubotu> Pegoretti: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[05:01] <Odd-rationale> nickrud: I wish I could say that...
[05:01] <Some_Person> Help me! trackerd eats up system resources (killing the process helps), and earlier my free space was 100-something MB, now its 36 MB. HELP! No one has touched the computer since now and since it had 100-something MB free.
[05:01] <IdleOne> nickrud, you mean you havent yet?
[05:01] <Pegoretti> hey buddy
[05:01] <nickrud> IdleOne: needid it for the nano, I finally broke down and compiled something
[05:02] <IdleOne> omg! nickrud compiled software?
[05:02] <IdleOne> :P
[05:02] <nickrud> I am a package addict, I like my fixes premade
[05:03] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=658523  how to get iPod working with Ubuntu ;]
[05:03] <luckyshot> hey guys i improperly shut my pc downa dn now when i boot up in to wont go into xwindows. im stuck in command mode. do you think if i boot up from the cd i can fix it?
[05:03] <IdleOne> nickrud, I hear ya. glad you finally got the chains off :)
[05:03] <Ninesvnsicks> Hey, when I boot up ubuntu all I see is lines its using refreshrate 53 aparently?
[05:03] <luckyshot> im using xubuntu
[05:03] <Ninesvnsicks> is there a way to set it to defualt to 60?
[05:03] <Some_Person> Help me! trackerd eats up system resources (killing the process helps), and earlier my free space was 100-something MB, now its 36 MB. HELP!  After building all the gnome 1.9 releases, evolution, rhythmbox (not to count all the times I compiled libc)  I got my fill.
[05:04] <Some_Person> IdleOne: What about my disappearing disk space?
[05:04] <bfrog> why are there like a million -dev packages
[05:04] <bfrog> header files must add like what, 10k to each install
[05:04] <Some_Person> IdleOne: I was at 0bytes free when I just got on here
[05:05] <Flannel> bfrog: because people do development with packages as well as just using them
[05:05] <nickrud> bazhang: yeah, yeah, I try to avoid having mixed packages and unmanaged files.
[05:05] <IdleOne> Some_Person, take a look and see what is in that space that was not there before and see if it belongs there
[05:05] <talcite> hmm... is there a way to get the window to slide, but not wobble?
[05:05] <Some_Person> IdleOne: had to clean stuff up just to make Firefox run correctly
[05:05] <bfrog> Flannel: dude, I don't want to have to install 10000 -dev packages just to develop some software
[05:05] <Starnestommy> Some_Person: do you have any swap?  Also, what programs are using the most memory?
[05:05] <Some_Person> IdleOne: how do i tell? and how do i turn off trackerd?
[05:05] <bazhang> nickrud: hehe just thought I would throw that out there ;]
[05:05] <Some_Person> Starnestommy: i have a swap
[05:05] <bfrog> why must ubuntu follow the debian silliness
[05:05] <yao_ziyuan> it seems to me that many programs in ubuntu's repository are very outdated
[05:05] <Starnestommy> bfrog: because it's based on debian

[05:06] <Some_Person> Starnestommy: as for most memory, trackerd was until i killed it
[05:06] <Flannel> bfrog: You don't have to install 10000 -dev packages.  You don't need most of them, if any, to develop software
[05:06] <PriceChild> !freeze | yao_ziyuan
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freeze - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <atonalpanic> can someone help me get my artheros wireless laptop card working?
[05:06] <PriceChild> grr
[05:06] <brandon503_> if i up date my distribution using the update included in ubuntu, will i loose my info in mysql db?
[05:06] <nickrud> bazhang: I read that one, saw all the foolish things going on, and just built libgpod and gtkpod in local.
[05:06] <Fryguy--> bfrog: uh... that's how software development works...
[05:06] <IdleOne> Some_Person, I am not on ubuntu at the momment but it is in the system prefs somewhere
[05:06] <bazhang> nickrud: nice! ;]
[05:06] <bfrog> Fryguy--: yeah, not with other saner packaging schemes
[05:06] <Some_Person> IdleOne: what is trackerd anyway?
[05:06] <bfrog> they include the headers and docs
[05:06] <gabrielsoul> nao sei nem abrir pvt
[05:06] <gabrielsoul> hHAHAHA
[05:06] <bfrog> in one nice tidy deal
[05:06] <PriceChild> yao_ziyuan: ubuntu is frozen on release to ensure stability. Only critical bug fixes and security updates go through. You can enable -updates and -backports if you want.
[05:06] <igoens> Hello, sorry if this question already asked: "Anyone can give me a reference for installing SN9102 based webcam on ubuntu gutsy? (The work one!)"
[05:06] <Flannel> !br | gabrielsoul
[05:06] <ubotu> gabrielsoul: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[05:06] <Pegoretti> Nem eu... uhauahuhua
[05:07] <IdleOne> Some_Person, it is a nice tool that some people added to ubuntu to eat up your ram :) as I see it
[05:07] <gabrielsoul> cara os comandos nesse aqui sao diferentes
[05:07] <yao_ziyuan> PriceChild: ok
[05:07] <Fryguy--> bfrog: such as?
[05:07] <Pegoretti> Flannel: !br
[05:07] <atonalpanic> anyone know how to setup an artheros wireless card?
[05:07] <Some_Person> IdleOne: ok, i found the option, appearently it is an indexing thingy, probably what killed my disk space
[05:07] <bfrog> slackware :-)
[05:07] <PriceChild> atonalpanic: mine worked out of the box for me.
[05:07] <IdleOne> Some_Person, yeah probably
[05:08] <Fryguy--> bfrog: so then use slackware.
[05:08] <gabrielsoul> 2k de membros e 2 OP
[05:08] <gabrielsoul> que moral esse canal
[05:08] <gabrielsoul> pPQP
[05:08] <Some_Person> IdleOne: now how do i get that space back?
[05:08] <regeya> !br
[05:08] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[05:08] <atonalpanic> pricechild: i tried installing madwifi but i get lost along the way
 anyone know how to setup an artheros wireless card? : What tipe of it's chipsets?
[05:08] <Pegoretti> isso nem importa aqui..
[05:08] <PriceChild> atonalpanic: post the output of lspci and lsusb for people
[05:08] <PriceChild> !br | gabrielsoul Pegoretti
[05:08] <ubotu> gabrielsoul Pegoretti: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[05:09] <igoens> I need help with webcam here ... please :((
[05:09] <brandon503_> if i up date my distribution using the update included in ubuntu, will i loose my info in mysql db?
[05:09] <nickrud> brandon503_: no
[05:09] <PriceChild> brandon503_: no. Its always good to keep backups though ;)
[05:09] <Pegoretti> igoens: i think i can help you.. whts r problem?
[05:09] <nickrud> brandon503_: you do have a backup regime already, right ;)
[05:09] <amenado> who was that -- that mentioned improperly dismounting external drive by turning it off without EJECT, and next time it is plugged in, ubuntu refuses because it was not cleanly unmounted before? how you fix it then?
[05:10] <igoens> Pegoretti: I'll make personal chat
[05:10] <atonalpanic> pricechild, igoens: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58341/
[05:10] <Pegoretti> ok
[05:10] <nickrud> amenado: ntfs? boot it into windows a couple times.
[05:10] <PriceChild> atonalpanic: pretty confident that works out of hte box with gutsy.
[05:10] <amenado> nickrud-> ext3 drive..or any fs format for that matter?
[05:10] <PriceChild> atonalpanic: you may need to system > admin > restricted driver manager, to add the binary driver
[05:11] <Darkmystere> !register
[05:11] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[05:11] <atonalpanic> pricechild: it doesnt even know i have wireless in network manager.
[05:11] <nickrud> amenado: hm. for ext3 , with the partition UNMOUNTED (just for certainty)  run   sudo fsck /dev/<device>
[05:11] <PriceChild> atonalpanic: you may need to system > admin > restricted driver manager, to add the binary driver
[05:12] <amenado> nickrud-> oh okay, i didnt think ubuntu would care...but its good to note the fix
[05:12] <Some_Person> IdleOne: well i'll be darned. i found the trackerd files, 5.2 GB worth of shit
[05:12] <atonalpanic> pricechild: in restricted it says "Artheros Hardware Access Layer (HAL) its enabled and in use.  but all i have are wire connections and modem...no wireless in netowrk manager
[05:12] <PriceChild> atonalpanic: pastebin 'iwconfig'
[05:12] <IdleOne> Some_Person, language please and yeah I believe it
[05:13] <atonalpanic> pricechild: correction: network settings*
[05:13] <PriceChild> atonalpanic: what about in network manager?
[05:13] <Some_Person> IdleOne: i think people should be warned, this could affect a lot of people
[05:13] <atonalpanic> i hear about that but i cant find it
[05:13] <atonalpanic> pricechild: im about 3 days into this where do i find that?
[05:13] <PriceChild> atonalpanic: just type it in a terminal
[05:13] <Some_Person> IdleOne: "100% disk in use" is a scary message, and thats what i got
[05:14] <Lasivian> what's a good wireless network manager?
[05:14] <igoens> Pegoretti: I leave you a personal message ...
[05:14] <atonalpanic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58342/
[05:14] <PriceChild> Lasivian: network-manager-gnome is included by default
[05:14] <atonalpanic> pricechild: i meant network manager, is it different than network settings?
[05:14] <IdleOne> Some_Person, submit a bug @ launchpad.net
[05:14] <Lasivian> PriceChild: I mean that will show me available wireless networks
[05:14] <nickrud> amenado: I can see that happening, but usually the fsck is done automatically
[05:14] <PriceChild> atonalpanic: yes
[05:14] <Some_Person> IdleOne: bugs already submitted
[05:14] <IdleOne> :)
[05:14] <Jorje> Hi..
[05:14] <phax> I am using the Gutsy distro, but there is a newer version of HPLIP for the Hardy distro would it mess things up if I install the package with deps for hardy ?
[05:14] <Jorje> Anyone there for help?
[05:14] <PriceChild> Lasivian: network-manager-gnome does that
[05:15] <PriceChild> !hardy | phax
[05:15] <ubotu> phax: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:15] <Fryguy--> phax: yes probably
[05:15] <PriceChild> Lasivian: its a little applet near the clock
[05:15] <zero88> WOW Please help. Anyone Here at all familiar with MENCODER?
[05:15] <nickrud> phax: almost certainy
[05:15] <Some_Person> IdleOne: appearently im not the only one with this issue
[05:15] <Lasivian> PriceChild: huh, maybe i'm an idiot, the only thing I saw was it asking me to put in the network details
[05:15] <Lasivian> i'm using an orinoco card if that makes a difference
[05:15] <PriceChild> Lasivian: http://weblog.topopardo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/nmapplet.png
[05:16] <phax> Fryguy--,  then how should I get the latest version of hplip, when I searching using the package manager it shows the version I have installed. My printer is not working with the current version, but is supposed to work with the next version
[05:16] <PriceChild> atonalpanic: one moment
[05:16] <gabrielsoul> Pegoretti, is gay
[05:16] <igoens> Bus 005 Device 003: ID 0c45:624f Microdia <-- works with gspca but no /dev/video0 = "What's the problem?"
[05:16] <Ethernal_Chaos> Is there another channel to set up my Cloak? freenode is basically spammers now..
[05:16] <amenado> Some_Person-> you also checked under your  ~/.thumbnails   you'd never know the pr0n pix you browsed is still there :P
[05:16] <Lasivian> "connect to other wireless network" asks for me to input a name. probably something I screwed up :/
[05:16] <Jorje> I'm using an HP laptop not configured to Linux. I need to log in to my wireless connection, but I have no clue. I tried doing it by entering the name of the network and the passphrade, but it didn't work. Anyone can help?
[05:16] <IdleOne> amenado, lol
[05:16] <nickrud> Ethernal_Chaos: you can ask for one on #freenode
[05:16] <Fingel> Russian IRC channels are a blast
[05:16] <eltopo> sup
[05:17] <phax> nickrud, thanks any comments about my question, would appreciate any pointers
[05:17] <Ethernal_Chaos> nickrud, I know its dark btw and #freenode has 1 op..
[05:17] <PriceChild> atonalpanic: are you sure you have turned it on with whatever hardware switch?
[05:17] <nickrud> Ethernal_Chaos: they're probably not oped
[05:17] <atonalpanic> pricechild: im 3 days into linux, im not really sure of anything.
[05:17] <igoens> 0c45:624f Microdia Webcam <-- works with gspca driver but no /dev/video0 = "What's the problem?"
[05:18] <PriceChild> atonalpanic: not linux.... a physical switch on the laptop
[05:18] <atonalpanic> ohh yeah it doesn't have a switch
[05:18] <PriceChild> atonalpanic: i have no idea... that card 'should' work.
[05:18] <khaotik_> could anyone give me a link to get my wireless fixed on a compaq presario c700. its weird the fw cutter is installed, the little blu light turned on, but there is no connection or not even one network showing when there should be at least six. this is really putting a damper in my plot to load Ubuntu on every machine and take over the worl.
[05:18] <nickrud> phax: you can compile it, but I use ubuntu so I don't have to compile. You could ask for more help on #ubuntu+1 about the hardy hplip, I may be being overly cautious.
[05:18] <atonalpanic> pricechild: how do i find the network manager?
[05:18] <khaotik_> world
[05:18] <eltopo> fun
[05:18] <PriceChild> atonalpanic: i use a 5005 abd all internet reports seem to make it the same
[05:19] <PriceChild> atonalpanic: it won't help, your card isn't yet listed in iwconfig
[05:19] <phax> nickrud, thanks, I don't know why it is not available for Gutsy
[05:19] <Jorje> I'm using an HP laptop not configured to Linux. I need to log in to my wireless connection, but I have no clue. I tried doing it by entering the name of the network and the passphrade, but it didn't work. Anyone can help?
[05:19] <furythor> how I can run .sh files, which are scripts
[05:19] <Starnestommy> furythor: sh file.sh
[05:19] <Kumool> unrar doesnt work anythin thats like it? or somethin from winrar mayb?
[05:19] <furythor> ok
[05:19] <Fryguy--> Kumool: unrar works, fine
[05:19] <nickrud> phax: once an ubuntu release is made, it only gets security or serious bug fixes (like ones that lose data)
[05:20] <khaotik_> could anyone give me a link to get my wireless fixed on a compaq presario c700. its weird the fw cutter is installed, the little blu light turned on, but there is no connection or not even one network showing when there should be at least six. this is really putting a damper in my plot to load Ubuntu on every machine and take over the world.
[05:20] <Odd-rationale> furythor: Also, be sure that the scripts are executable.
[05:20] <atonalpanic> pricechild: it never worked not even before i started messin with it.  i had that nasty problem of sound coming out of both speakers and headphones...my coworkers were not happy about me listening to rap music
[05:20] <nickrud> phax: that's why they have a very aggressive release policy of every 6 months
[05:20] <Kumool> it fails on extracting
[05:20] <Fryguy--> Kumool: works fine for me
[05:20] <phax> nickrud, ok makes sense but what about drivers which are not present in the distro
[05:21] <phax> nickrud, they should be installed manually ?
[05:21] <amenado> Jorje you have an hp laptop but using which os?
[05:21] <atonalpanic> pricechild: recently i tried installing madwifi but it gave an error on file "apt pci"
[05:21] <nickrud> phax: we wait. Or, compile. I broke a personal rule tonight, compiling software :)
[05:21] <Kumool> tried -f and -d and nothin it fails extracting everything
[05:21] <brandonc503> hey im trying to copy my var/www/ folder to flash drive but says i dont have permission to read so i cant copy.. should i a. change permissions in my www folder. or b. use the terminal and some sudo command to copy www folder to flash drive
[05:21] <PriceChild> atonalpanic: your messing with that may have made things worse
[05:21] <IdleOne> I still cant believe it nickrud
[05:21] <IdleOne> lol
[05:21] <phax> nickrud, then i won't be able to use my printer till the next Ubuntu release :(
[05:21] <ttotally> i've been trying to install ubuntu and it won't accept my partition scheme
[05:21] <Fryguy--> brandonc503: probably easier to just do it in a terminal
[05:21] <Odd-rationale> brandonc503: Use sudo
[05:22] <ttotally> i partitioned the disk with cfdisk
[05:22] <nickrud> phax: like I said, try asking about it on #ubuntu+1
[05:22] <brandonc503> can you tell me what to type , im ubun-nub
[05:22] <ttotally> can't i just tell it where to install?
[05:22] <nickrud>      /ignore IdleOne ;P
[05:22] <prettyricky> is it possible to add more space to my partitioned drive, I only alloted 10 gig when I installed ubuntu and I need more....
[05:22] <IdleOne>       /kb nickrud you should of known better :P
[05:22] <Starnestommy> ttotally: make sure the main partition has / as a mount point
[05:22] <amenado> ttotally-> what option did you choose during install?
[05:22] <PriceChild> ttotally: yes, choose manual partitioning, then allocate a root partition (for all your data) signified by: / and a swap partition.
[05:23] <atonalpanic> pricechild: possible, but the furthest i got was making the install file before it fail.  for me it didn't work straight out.  i have vista on this comp...so u can see why im desperate to get my wireless card working on linux lol
[05:23] <PriceChild> !ot | IdleOne
[05:23] <ubotu> IdleOne: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:23] <Fryguy--> prettyricky: there are plenty of partitioning tools that can expand the size of a partition, partitionmagic for windows and gparted come to mind
[05:23] <IdleOne> PriceChild, yes sorry
[05:23] <Odd-rationale> brandonc503: sudo cp /var/WWW /destination
[05:23] <ttotally> Starnestommy, PriceChild did that, the root is on sda6, a logical device
[05:23] <Jorje> I'm using an HP laptop not configured to Linux. I need to log in to my wireless connection, but I have no clue. I tried doing it by entering the name of the network and the passphrade, but it didn't work. Anyone can help?
[05:23] <brandonc503> Odd-rationale will cp keep the same permissions?
[05:24] <Fryguy--> brandonc503: using cp -a will
[05:24] <brandonc503> or should i use sudo cp  -a
[05:24] <brandonc503> .. kk thanks
[05:24] <amenado> Jorje you have an hp laptop but using which os?
[05:24] <ttotally> it wants to reformat/partition the first three partitions, but two of those are ntfs
[05:24] <miyaka> my wifi doesnt work in ubuntu. Im using MSI megabook laptop
[05:24] <prettyricky> well that question is which one do I add I have one that says swap, and the other one is ext3?
[05:24] <amenado> ttotally-> there should be more options than default..
[05:24] <Fryguy--> prettyricky: ext3
[05:24] <ttotally> amenado, what do you mean?
[05:24] <khaotik_> could anyone give me a link to get my wireless fixed on a compaq presario c700. its weird the fw cutter is installed, the little blu light turned on, but there is no connection or not even one network showing when there should be at least six. this is really putting a damper in my plot to load Ubuntu on every machine and take over the world.
[05:25] <amenado> ttotally-> look carefully at your choices which radio button you can click on
[05:25] <prettyricky> will acronis disk director suite work?
[05:25] <atonalpanic> Is there any way to automatically mount my window vista partition so i don't have to click on the partition in COMPUTER to  get my songs to play in banshee?  my songs are located on vista, but i always have to go in to that partition for banshee to start playing
[05:25] <Fryguy--> why are people so into taking over the world with *nix
[05:25] <Fryguy--> prettyricky: probably
[05:25] <miyaka> how can I stop the start up sound in ubuntu? it continuous playing the sound and never stop. My laptop is MSI
[05:25] <prettyricky> ok
[05:25] <Fryguy--> atonalpanic: edit /etc/fstab
[05:25] <lastelement0> how can i stop compiz fusion from loading the screen at bootup?
[05:26] <ttotally> i already partitioned the disk, but ubuntu wants to write over my partions and just picks the first three existing ones to repartion for its use
[05:26] <Kumool> a ok lol i was using unrar ver 0.0.1 OMG
[05:26] <atonalpanic> fryguy: "Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*""
[05:26] <Fryguy--> atonalpanic: ... i mean edit the file..
[05:26] <Fryguy--> using whatever text editor you prefer
[05:26] <amenado> ttotally-> it ccan only install on what you selected assuming you choosed the partition yourself,
[05:27] <nickrud> atonalpanic: I have     UUID=386C4F356C4EECE6 /windows        ntfs-3g    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1    to mount my windows partition at /windows ; use    blkid   in a terminal to get your uuid
[05:27] <ttotally> amenado, okay .. now what do you mean "selected"?
[05:27] <amenado> ttotally-> are you installing now? tell me what choices do you have ?
[05:28] <ttotally> i want it to install on /dev/sda6 with a boot partition on /dev/sda1
[05:28] <ttotally> amenado, just a minute
[05:28] <amenado> !who | ttotally
[05:28] <ubotu> ttotally: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:28] <nickrud> ttotally: use the manual partitioning
[05:28] <NuCobra> Hi all, How can u remove ubuntu from my hard drive without doing a reformat? i also have Windows installed on the same drive and do not want to lose all my info
[05:29] <atonalpanic> nickrud: just write "UUID=MYWINDOWSPARITION /windows        ntfs-3g    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0" to that file?
[05:29] <ubuntu> hi
[05:29] <ttotally> nickrud, i did ... partitioned it beforehand with cfdisk, then clicked on manual
[05:29] <amenado> ttotally-> yeah if you are in manual partitioning, you also have a choice for mount points.. so /dev/sda6 for /  and /dev/sda1 for /boot
[05:29] <nickrud> atonalpanic: yes, if you decide to mount it at /windows don't forget to sudo mkdir /windows
[05:30] <NuCobra> Hello :)
[05:30] <GGB> tem brasil??
[05:30] <brandonc503> so that sudo cp -a start finish   said....
[05:30] <brandonc503> cp: failed to preserve ownership for Operation not permitted
[05:30] <nickrud> ttotally: iirc click on the partition, then give the mount point you want that partition to have
[05:30] <ttotally> amenado, i have / for root and /boot for /sda1 ... is that right
[05:30] <amenado> NuCobra-> no worries, your windows can not see the ubuntu partitions if it does not have the ext3 drivers to see linux
[05:30] <Kikkoman> baw
[05:30] <Kikkoman> [22:33] #ubuntu unable to join channel (registered only)
[05:30] <Kikkoman> Oh lol
[05:30] <amenado> ttotally-> it is your choice, you ask me if it is right, what do you like to have?
[05:31] <ttotally> amenado, that's not what i meant
[05:31] <nickrud> brandonc503: do you have write permissions at the location you're writing to?
[05:31] <zero88> !pastebin
[05:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[05:31] <NuCobra> amenado: How can u remove ubuntu from my hard drive without doing a reformat? i also have Windows installed on the same drive and do not want to lose all my info
[05:31] <amenado> ttotally-> well i dont know what you meant
[05:31] <ttotally> amenado, i meant is the syntax correct
[05:31] <atonalpanic> nickrud: "I'm confused, which file should i add this too?
[05:31] <nickrud> brandonc503: or, you're trying to change the ownership to root of a file you're copying
[05:31] <brandonc503> its my thumb drive.. how would i do that?
[05:31] <amenado> ttotally-> yeah if you are in manual partitioning, you also have a choice for mount points.. so /dev/sda6 for /  and /dev/sda1 for /boot
[05:31] <nickrud> atonalpanic: /etc/fstab
[05:31] <PriceChild> NuCobra: use some partitioning program to delete the ubuntu partition, and expant the windows one to fill the space.
[05:32] <brandonc503> im trying to keep permisions the same
[05:32] <amenado> NuCobra-> do you need to remove it really? why?
[05:32] <brandonc503> is for back up
[05:32] <atonalpanic> nickrud: its telling me it is a directory
[05:32] <meekolope> NuCobra: its to cool to use, it freezes his fingertips
[05:32] <ttotally> amenado, so "/dev/sda6" is what should appear in the table, not "/"
[05:32] <nickrud> brandonc503: if any of the files are owned by root (or about anyone else) you'll have to use sudo
[05:32] <Kumool> how do install unrar from source?
[05:32] <littlepinkdot> Have a quick question about teardrop attacks, what type of firewall is best at preventing teardrop/DDoS attacks? Circuit or SPI?
[05:32] <brandonc503> nickrud i did
[05:32] <NuCobra> PriceChild: you know any good ones? for windows?
[05:32] <nickrud> atonalpanic:   gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[05:32] <furythor> man, compiling that wine takes a while...
[05:33] <furythor> typo ><
[05:33] <ryuenjinzero> NuCobra windows can do it itself
[05:33] <NuCobra> ryuenjinzero: ya if you have the disk
[05:33] <nickrud> brandonc503: hm. sounds odd. without knowing more about what and where its copying ...
[05:33] <amenado> ttotally-> mount points will be  /  and /boot  which corrsponding partition you choose is your choice.. dont forget / should be minimum 2gig -- /boot only about 300meg is enuff
[05:33] <prince_jammys> !gparted | NuCobra: this is one, you can download a liveCD
[05:33] <ubotu> NuCobra: this is one, you can download a liveCD: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[05:34] <NuCobra> prince_jammys: ty
[05:34] <brandonc503> nickrud from /var/www to my flash drive
[05:34] <atonalpanic> nickrud: thanks imma restart and try it out
[05:34] <hqxriven> hi
[05:35] <ttotally> amenado, i normally use about 40-50 meg for /boot
[05:35] <nickrud> brandonc503: is the flash mounted write only?
[05:35] <NuCobra> prince_jammys: it work in windows?
[05:35] <nickrud> brandonc503: I mean, read?
[05:35] <amenado> NuCobra  btw this is the best time to use that infamous  rm -rf * on the partition you want to remove..
[05:35] <prince_jammys> NuCobra: you boot directly into the CD.
[05:35] <amenado> ttotally-> whatever suites you
[05:35] <nickrud> brandonc503: or, is it an ntfs/vfat usb? those can't handle unix permissions
[05:35] <ttotally> amenado, anyway, that's what i have for mount points
[05:36] <furythor> How long building and installing wine can take ?
[05:36] <hqxriven> brasileiros na área???
[05:36] <prince_jammys> NuCobra: you can then edit the partitions (delete the ubuntu one and resize the windows one).  when it's done, you reboot
[05:36] <nickrud> !br | hqxriven
[05:36] <ubotu> hqxriven: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[05:36] <brandonc503> nickrud i have put other files there from ubuntu...
[05:36] <hqxriven> valeu
[05:36] <Pendeta> I have some (probably dumb) questions concerning the Ubuntu Server Edition.  1. Can it be used as a workstation also? or is that not wise?
[05:36] <NuCobra> ok if it works i will see you all around some time
[05:37] <Fryguy--> Pendeta: ubuntu server doesn't install a gui by default
[05:37] <PriceChild> Pendeta: the server edition is just a different set of default packages
[05:37] <nickrud> brandonc503: yes, but if it's an ntfs/vfat partition, you were copying into preset permissions.
[05:37] <brandonc503> nickrud it looks like it copied the files but the permissions where not persereved
[05:37] <ttotally> amenado, let me ask this then. will ubuntu put linux in / automatically? and the kernel image/grub/etc in /boot?
[05:37] <igoens> 0c45:624f Microdia Webcam <-- works with gspca driver but no /dev/video0 = "What's the problem?"
[05:37] <amenado> Pendeta-> yes it can be used as workstation, you may have to add desktop to get gui features
[05:37] <dn4ia> http://heraldnet.com/article/20080303/NEWS01/367822819
[05:37] <PriceChild> Pendeta: you can install a gui on top of the server base install, or you can install server apps on top of the desktop install. You end with the same result.
[05:37] <brandonc503> nickrud what can i do?
[05:37] <dn4ia> oops, did I just show you that?
[05:37] <brandonc503> nickrud i have other flash drives
[05:37] <amenado> ttotally-> affirmative
[05:37] <prince_jammys> ttotally: yes
[05:38] <Pendeta> oktanouc, great.
[05:38] <ttotally> okay, thnx guys
[05:38] <nickrud> brandonc503: exactly.  if you want to preserver permissions, do   tar -cf www.backup.tar /var/www , that will make a file that will preserve permissions
[05:38] <ttotally> back to troubleshooting then
[05:38] <nickrud> brandonc503: or, reformat one of those other flash drives as an ext2/3 partition
[05:38] <brandonc503> nickrud can i do that with ubuntu
[05:38] <nickrud> brandonc503: sure, use parted or cfdisk
[05:38] <NuCobra> if it downloads
[05:39] <Pendeta> Question 2, how does file sharing work? Can you still keep some data files on each workstation?
[05:39] <nickrud> dn4ia: yes, please avoid it in the future
[05:40] <amenado> Pendeta-> off course you keep your data files in each workstation, assuming the shared directory is from the workstation and not from the central server
[05:40] <zero88> W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[05:40] <zero88>  how do i fic this
[05:40] <dn4ia> nickrud, copy that break 10-04
[05:40] <PriceChild> !debian | zero88
[05:40] <ubotu> zero88: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[05:40] <nickrud> zero88: first, by not using debian-mulitmedia
[05:40] <zero88> :(
[05:41] <nickrud> dn4ia: heh, mistakes are made
[05:41] <zero88> im trying to follow this http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Installing_svn_ffmpeg_on_a_Debian_based_distro
[05:41] <brandonc503> nickrud if i do that tar -cf www.backup.tar /var/www    ... where will it put the file?
[05:41] <nickrud> brandonc503: in the directory you ran it in
[05:41] <brandonc503> k thanks
[05:41] <PriceChild> zero88: get ffmpeg from medibuntu
[05:41] <Pendeta> amenado, Thanks.
[05:41] <PriceChild> !medibuntu | zero88
[05:41] <ubotu> zero88: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:42] <amenado> Pendeta-> no problemo,
[05:42] <nickrud> brandonc503: when it comes time to untar it, use   tar xf www.backup.tar, it will recreate the directory as a subdirectory of where you run it
[05:43] <Pendeta> Question 3. Is there a web page somewhere that clearly but throughly explains how to set up a LAN using the Ubuntu Server Edition?
[05:44] <PriceChild> Pendeta: get two computers and one ethernet cable. Plug one end of the cable in each. Done.
[05:44] <luckyshot> hey guys i improperly shut my pc down and now when i boot up it wont go into xwindows. im stuck in command mode. do you think if i boot up from the cd i can fix it?
[05:44] <luckyshot> i can get in with the live cd i installed it from
[05:44] <luckyshot> xubuntu
[05:46] <Pendeta> PriceChild, we have 5 computers, and two of them are Windows XP. Does what you said  still apply?
[05:46] <PriceChild> Pendeta: get a hub or switch and 5 cables. Plug one end of each cable into the hub or switch, the other into a computer. Done.
[05:46] <amenado> Pendeta its much nicer if you get a hub or a switch in between
[05:46] <brandonc503> nickrud so ... sudo  tar -cf www.backup.tar /var/www
[05:47] <luckyshot> anyone??
[05:47] <amenado> Pendeta-> and most likely you will need a router, so either use your ubuntu as a router/gateway or get a real expensive one :)
[05:47] <nickrud> brandonc503: yes
[05:48] <amenado> Pendeta am assuming your little network will expand
[05:48] <luckyshot> can anyone help me fix this problem?
[05:49] <amenado> luckyshot-> re-install its a new install anyways right?
[05:49] <Darkmystere> Whats the directory Emerald Hides the themeś  after they've been imported..?
[05:49] <lwizardl> hi
[05:50] <brandonc503> nickrud uh.. what did it do? i dont see new anything in /var/www
[05:50] <Odd-rationale> Darkmystere: Either ~/.themes or ~/.emerald
[05:51] <amenado> brandonc503-> what command did you type exactly?
[05:51] <brandonc503> sudo  tar -cf www.backup.tar /var/www;
[05:51] <brandonc503> and it asked for password
[05:51] <brandonc503> and i entered it
[05:51] <Pendeta> Is it easier to use the server as a router/gateway or to use a dedicated router?
[05:51] <brandonc503> tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
[05:51] <amenado> brandonc503-> which directory where you in when doing this command?  pwd
[05:51] <NuCobra> This takes forever to Dwnlod
[05:52] <Kumool> how do i extract rar files?
[05:52] <brandonc503> amenado i did in terminal
[05:52] <amenado> Pendeta same pretty much
[05:52] <amenado> cept for cost
[05:52] <amenado> brandonc503-> in that terminal type this  pwd
[05:53] <ogre> how do i detect the mac addy of my bluetoothe device?
[05:53] <brandonc503> /home/brandon
[05:53] <luckyshot> amenado, not a new install
[05:53] <amenado> brandonc503-> then look for a tar file in your /home/brandon
[05:53] <brandonc503> k
[05:53] <brandonc503> sweet
[05:54] <brandonc503> thanks
[05:54] <Pendeta> PriceChild and amenado, thanks! Now I have questions about a different problem.
[05:54] <Ninesvnsicks> ok me and my friend are having a hard time getting X to work
[05:54] <NuCobra> ok how do i run it now that is it dwnloded
[05:54] <brandonc503> so i can just copy that to flash drive
[05:54] <Ninesvnsicks> he has an Nvidia geforce 6800
[05:54] <Ninesvnsicks> we downloaded the nvidia drivers
[05:54] <Ninesvnsicks> but they wont install
[05:54] <Ninesvnsicks> getting: Unable to find the system utility 'ld' please make sure you have the package binutils installed
[05:54] <ogre> how do i detect the mac addy of my bluetoothe device?
[05:55] <amenado> brandonc503-> cp  source destination  ..may I also suggest some basic linux tutorials?
[05:55] <brandonc503> amenado nope
[05:56] <amenado> brandonc503-> it would really help you..rather than asking every question here
[05:56] <brandonc503> amenado thats what xchat is for.. i learn as i need.. head starting to get full of php and sql stuff.. dont wana blow it up
[05:56] <NuCobra> prince_jammys: how do i run it now that it is dwnloaded
[05:56] <brandonc503> amenado ive learned much here.. i dont read good. have hard time getting book to read to me
[05:56] <Pendeta> When I run tracert on any external url I get all stars except for the first and last line. Is this the fault of my ISP or a problem with my computer?
[05:56] <amenado> brandonc503-> since you dont like to take the effort to do tutorials, thats the last help you get from me
[05:56] <prince_jammys> NuCobra: you have to burn a CD and boot from it
[05:57] <brandonc503> amenado i understand, thanks though
[05:57] <ttotally> amenado, it works now. i didn't know to use the little format check box. once i told it which ones to format it's happy ..
[05:57] <prince_jammys> NuCobra: when you installed ubuntu, did you do it from live cd?
[05:57] <Lasivian> how do I tell Ubuntu to rescan the pcmcia bus?
[05:57] <NuCobra> prince_jammys: yes then updated
[05:58] <prince_jammys> NuCobra: ok, same thing.  you burn a cd and reboot from cd. That way you can edit partitions without working inside them
[05:58] <NuCobra> ok ty
[05:58] <NuCobra> prince_jammys: ty
[05:58] <prince_jammys> NuCobra: the only thing i wonder about is your grub
[05:59] <cryptk> is anyone here that can help me with rebuilding my kernel
[05:59] <Ninesvnsicks> I really need help here
[05:59] <PriceChild> cryptk: why do you think you need to do that?
[05:59] <prince_jammys> if he removes ubuntu with gparted and resizes his existing windows partition, will it affect grub?
[05:59] <PriceChild> prince_jammys: yes, he will need to use the windows install cd to restore the mbr
[05:59] <prince_jammys> "he" being NuCobra
[06:00] <cryptk> I am trying to patch a wireless driver, to do that I need to rebuild the kernel to have loadable module support
[06:00] <prince_jammys> wow he left
[06:00] <prince_jammys> ooops
[06:00] <Fryguy--> cryptk: the ubuntu kernel has loadable module support by default
[06:00] <cryptk> my kernel is telling me that it doesnt
[06:01] <PriceChild> cryptk: you can load modules into the ubuntu kernel...
[06:01] <Fryguy--> cryptk: then you are doing something wrong
[06:01] <prince_jammys> PriceChild: he's not going to be too happy, since he doesn't have a windows cd :/
[06:01] <cryptk> ok, is there someone here that can help me find out what I am doing wrong?
[06:01] <PriceChild> prince_jammys: there are other ways, ##windows for that
[06:02] <cryptk> there are programs available through the package manager that you can use to restore a windows MBR
[06:02] <Mushrooms> Is there a method for me to disable the 'main monitor' of my note book computer, and just use an external monitor?
[06:02] <cryptk> unless it is a vista MBR, then you need the CD
[06:02] <Mushrooms> because i have tried various dual screen configurations, but none of them seem to work properly
[06:02] <plux> Mushrooms: set the lightlevel to zero?
[06:03] <Lasivian> Mushrooms: yeah, that should be under applications/settings/screens and graphics
[06:03] <ogre> where can i get the hardy beta?
[06:03] <PriceChild> !hardy | ogre
[06:03] <ubotu> ogre: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[06:03] <Fryguy--> there's a beta?
[06:03] <Fryguy--> i thought it was still alpha
[06:03] <Lasivian> tho to totally shut off your notebook screen you probably need to use the notebook bios settings or hotkeys
[06:03] <PriceChild> Fryguy--: see ubotu's message
[06:03] <kLownish> lol.
[06:04] <Lasivian> anyone know how to rescan the pcmcia bus?
[06:04] <JeffH> does the server edition differ from the desktop edition just by the software that is installed by default?
[06:04] <Fryguy--> JeffH: yes
[06:04] <PriceChild> JeffH: yes.
[06:04] <kLownish> im having a permission problem with my nas (wd netcenter).  I can view, and write to it on my linux box, but cant even view it on winblows..anyone have any idea what i can do ;/
[06:04] <Lasivian> can't get my notebook to see my network card when I swap it out
[06:04] <JeffH> does the server version include x-window
[06:04] <PriceChild> !windows | kLownish
[06:04] <ubotu> kLownish: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[06:05] <_Oz_> Lasivian: ubuntu tends to have a problem with wireless cards
[06:05] <Lasivian> doh
[06:05] <Lasivian> that's not good
[06:05] <PriceChild> _Oz_: pardon?
[06:05] <Lasivian> it definately hates my Orinoco card
[06:05] <PriceChild> JeffH: no, but it is installable easily.
[06:05] <_Oz_> PriceChild: every wireless card I've combined ubuntu with has choked unfortunately. :(
[06:05] <ogre> how do i detect the mac addy of my bluetooth device?
[06:05] <JeffH> PriceChild: Good.  I don't want a GUI
[06:06] <kLownish> PriceChild: I appreciate your ability to type the ! and a name, but that is not all of the problem..i still would like to be able to view/write to it on linux, and windows.
[06:06] <PriceChild> _Oz_: that does not mean they don't work for anyone else.
[06:06] <PriceChild> kLownish: if it works on linux, but not windows, then its a windows problem.
[06:06] <_Oz_> PriceChild: no, but it is sort of a known weakness of ubuntu at this point in time -- especially if it's a laptop.
[06:06] <Lasivian> well, I swap cards and they don't show up in ifconfig, so I assume I need to tell it to check
[06:06] <PriceChild> _Oz_: I would suggest instead you find out the chipset and give helpful advice.
[06:06] <kLownish> PriceChild: maybe its a permissions issue that i'm no thinking of..
[06:06] <kLownish> which is why im here.
[06:06] <_Oz_> Lasivian: I'm just letting him know it's a common problem, that's all.
[06:07] <PriceChild> kLownish: if it works on linux, but not windows, then its a windows problem?
[06:07] <_Oz_> !laptop | lasivian
[06:07] <ubotu> lasivian: Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[06:07] <nraic> Hi, I am using ubuntu 7.04 64bit and I am trying to get flash to work using the Getflash script.
[06:07] <_Oz_> er
[06:07] <cryptk> macromedia flash?
[06:07] <_Oz_> that was supposed to be
[06:07] <PriceChild> nraic: what's wrong with the flashplyugin-nonfree package?
[06:07] <_Oz_> PriceChild: I'm just letting him know it's a common problem, that's all.
[06:08] <nraic> PriceChild, I can't find it using the package manager.
[06:08] <PriceChild> nraic: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:09] <limp> How do i know my KDE version?
[06:09] <Mushrooms> sorry about that, i had to do a alt+ sysreq TT^TT
[06:09] <nraic> PriceChild, I get these error. http://rafb.net/p/G5prWm20.html
[06:10] <Mushrooms> I can't remember who i was talking to, but in regards to setting screen preferences, you do mean system->administration->screens and graphics?
[06:10] <PriceChild> nraic: pastebin your sources.list please
[06:10] <nraic> PriceChild, I found the package on the site but yeh then it keeps asking for all the decencies
[06:10] <nraic> PriceChild, How do I locate my sources list?
[06:10] <mindheavy> anyone ever have an icon get stuck on the desktop in gnome, an icon for a cd in the drive to be exact
[06:11] <PriceChild> nraic: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:11] <limp> I'd really need to know how i can get my KDE version
[06:11] <prince_jammys> limp: one not-so-direct way is to open any kde app (kate, for example) and in the far right of the top menu -Help -> About KDE
[06:11] <Frijolie> I have a Core2 Duo Laptop, should I be running amd64 version over the i386 version?
[06:11] <Fryguy--> Frijolie: no
[06:11] <limp> prince_jammys, thanks =)
[06:12] <nraic> PriceChild: http://rafb.net/p/ppSqh096.html
[06:12] <Frijolie> Fryguy: is there any benefit of the 64bit OS?
[06:12] <Fryguy--> Frijolie: access to more ram, that's about it
[06:12] <limp> Oh by the way, on laptops how come then Fn+Arrow shortcut does not work to reduce/augment screen brightness (save battery)
[06:12] <Frijolie> Fryguy: I do have 2GB RAM
[06:12] <Fryguy--> Frijolie: many applications are slower on 64-bit currently, and there's quite a bit more headaches regarding binary only versions of stuff (firefox, nvidia, and flash all come to mind)
[06:12] <PriceChild> nraic: system > administration > software sources.
[06:12] <Fryguy--> Frijolie: that's fine for 32-bit
[06:13] <Frijolie> Fryguy: ah, well then I'm not missing anything...
[06:13] <Fryguy--> err, well firefox isn't binary only, but it runs flash
[06:13] <Fryguy--> Frijolie: nope
[06:13] <griffi1> hello
[06:13] <Frijolie> Fryguy: alright...
[06:14] <PriceChild> nraic: please uncheck then recheck the first four boxes. Then move to the third tab and uncheck the first 4 boxes, then recheck the first 2.
[06:14] <griffi1> I m trying to install alsa with module-assistant, but I ve got an error saying : CFLAGS was changed, Any ideas please ?
[06:14] <mindheavy> anyone ever have an icon get stuck on the desktop in gnome, an icon for a cd in the drive to be exact
[06:14] <crypt1029_>  /msg nickserv link crypt1029 scorcher
[06:15] <crypt1029_> hrm
[06:15] <Frijolie> is there an official release date for Hardy? -- it is next month right?
[06:15] <PriceChild> crypt1029_: please nick to your normal nick and change your password immediately
[06:15] <prince_jammys> oops
[06:15] <fotoflo> hey, im having a problem with ssh, when i use puTTy to connect to my ubuntu box it takes forever for a password prompt
[06:15] <PriceChild> crypt1029_: in future do not perform actions including your password in a channel tab
[06:15] <crypt1029_> I already did, lol
[06:15] <fotoflo> if i use the internal ip its even slower, if i use the extrenal ip, its a little faster
[06:16] <Odd-rationale> Frijolie: Sometime near the end of april, i beleive...
[06:16] <Fryguy--> month 4 and month 10 of every year (hence the .04 and .10 at the end of version numbers)
[06:17] <Fryguy--> exact release date hasn't been scheduled yet i don't think
[06:17] <Frijolie> Odd-rationale: ive searched for an official release schedule and all I get is vague schedule(s)
[06:17] <Odd-rationale> Frijolie: I'll get it for you...
[06:17] <dizzle> every time I switch my wireless network, my custom hosts file is replaced by the Ubuntu default. Can somebody help?
[06:17] <nickrud> 24th
[06:17] <carey> How do i get firefox to stop loading up mp3's to play them when i'm trying to download them instead?
[06:17] <nraic> PriceChild, Done. I did the reload, was warned about one bad package and that was it. I tired the add command again, no go. Do I need to restart?
[06:18] <EnginA> Guys any of you know what should I do to see a KDM/GDM login screen upon VNC connection to a ubuntu server =
[06:18] <Darkmystere> whats the file to edit my screenś res for the splash screen?
[06:18] <EnginA> ?
[06:18] <amenado> dizzle-> look at your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[06:18] <Fryguy--> dizzle: the easiest way is to probably mark the file immutable with chattr
[06:18] <ompaul> EnginA, log in
[06:18] <bastid_raZor> Darkmystere; menu.lst
[06:18] <PriceChild> nraic: in a terminal, sudo apt-get update, then try installing the package again
[06:19] <dizzle> hmmm cool thank for the tips guys
[06:19] <EnginA> with default setup when I log on the the VNC server on my ubuntu box I just see an X session running by root with a console opened.
[06:19] <Odd-rationale> Frijolie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule
[06:19] <Darkmystere> bastid_raZor, Err, thats not it its a file that just has res in it..
[06:20] <nraic> PriceChild, apt-get update done, package is still not wanting to install.
[06:20] <Flyerfye> Does anyone how to connect to the IRC at a University, I connect just fine at home
[06:20] <Frijolie> Odd-rationale: thanks! that's what I was looking for! the Beta's coming up thanks..
[06:20] <Fryguy--> Flyerfye: ?
[06:20] <Starnestommy> Flyerfye: try port 8001
[06:20] <nraic> PriceChild,  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree is the correct package name yeh?
[06:21] <Flyerfye> how do I do that
[06:21] <Starnestommy> Flyerfye: depends on the client
[06:21] <Darkmystere> whats the file to edit my screenś res for the splash  loading screen so i wont have to wait for it to load and all that..
[06:21] <Fryguy--> Darkmystere: install startupmanager
[06:21] <Flyerfye> XChat-Gnome IRC
[06:21] <Fryguy--> ew xchat :(
[06:22] <nickrud> Darkmystere: /etc/usplash.conf
[06:22] <Flyerfye> what client should I get instead then?
[06:22] <burner\-> uhm.. at resume (from suspend) i get a *out of range* message on my screen. Then it goes to a black screen with a blinking '_'
[06:22] <Frijolie> is GNOME going to upgrade to v3 to "compete" with the new KDE 4 (not trying to start a flame war) I like GNOME better
[06:22] <burner\-> then i have to go to (ctrl+alt+f1) and back to (ctrl+alt+f7) - and there's X working fine, exept from a weird mouse pointer
[06:22] <nickrud> Flyerfye: xchat   plain, (or irssi if you're masochistic)
[06:22] <bastid_raZor> Darkmystere; if you'll read in the menu.lst it'll tell about adding it.. defoptions=vga=791 ..
[06:22] <Fryguy--> Frijolie: gnome is going to continue along it's course, just as it does now
[06:23] <nickrud> Frijolie: off-topic, you should ask on irc.gnome.org , #gnome (and no)
[06:23] <Fryguy--> Frijolie: feel free to look at their release schedule to see what they have planned, or, god forbid, actually do some work for them
[06:23] <prince_jammys> bitchX
[06:23] <Fryguy--> prince_jammys: bitchX is no longer under active development, and has been pretty much completely been replaced by irssi as the de facto cli client of choice
[06:24] <jamesrdorn> is there a good way of freeing "shared" memory? I had a VM open that I had to kill. Normally this RAM is freed when the app closes. It wouldn't be a problem but it's 7.4GB of ram that it in use.
[06:24] <Odd-rationale> Fryguy--: Do you have a link of the relase schedule and planned features?
[06:24] <prince_jammys> Fryguy--: oh
[06:24] <Fryguy--> Odd-rationale: no, but google does
[06:24] <Frijolie> Fryguy: I know it appears that GNOME is a little poky in the incremental upgrade category... I would help if I knew how to code
[06:24] <prince_jammys> Fryguy--: then i'm uninstalling it :)
[06:24] <Odd-rationale> Fryguy--: Thanks.....
[06:24] <Fryguy--> prince_jammys: irssi is really nice
[06:25] <nraic> PriceChild, are you still there?
[06:25] <prince_jammys> Fryguy--: i'm about to get it
[06:25] <PriceChild> nraic: yes
[06:25] <PriceChild> nraic: apt-cache madsion flashplugin-nonfree
[06:26] <lkthomas> guys
[06:26] <lkthomas> I am using marvell eth chip
[06:26] <icesword> !
[06:26] <GhotiPhud> hi
[06:26] <lkthomas> but ubuntu default kernel seems can't find it
[06:26] <ogre> how do i detect the mac addy of my bluetooth device?
[06:26] <Darkmystere> what exacly does that vga=773 do?
[06:27] <ogre> how do i detect the mac addy of my bluetooth dongle*?
[06:27] <icesword> Darkmystere, vga=788 =1024X728
[06:28] <Peng> If an application crashed saying "Segmentation fault (core dumped)", where would it be dumped to?
[06:28] <nraic> PriceChild, E: Invalid operation madsion
[06:28] <nickrud> Peng: /var/crash
[06:28] <dizzle> often my laptop screen will blank ( i assume its saving power or something).  When i move my mouse to show the screen again, there is no response and i ahve to restart Xserver. is there a fix for this? is it a similar issue as hibernate/suspend?
[06:28] <Darkmystere> well brb trying it out
[06:28] <BenniBoya> hey, how can i get gcc to build for winows?
[06:29] <dizzle> are there fixes for hibernate/suspend now with gutsy?
[06:29] <Fryguy--> BenniBoya: using mingw
[06:29] <nickrud> lkthomas:  try   lspci | grep -i ethernet , that should tell you if the kernel sees your ethernet chip
[06:29] <bastid_raZor> Darkmystere; http://tinyurl.com/2q9qrd will help explain it a bit more
[06:29] <PriceChild> dizzle: hibernate/suspend work fine otb
[06:29] <ryan_mandelbaum> i have a mac g3 ppc and my synaptic keeps crashing every time i search for something
[06:29] <BenniBoya> what is mingew
[06:29] <Peng> nickrud: Oh, ok. It's empty.
[06:29] <Fryguy--> BenniBoya: gcc for windows
[06:29] <PriceChild> dizzle: if you decide to use proprietary binary blobs things may break
[06:29] <BenniBoya> can i build it for windows in ubuntu though?
[06:29] <lkthomas> 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Unknown device 4357 (rev 12)
[06:30] <nickrud> lkthomas: so, the kernel sees it
[06:30] <lkthomas> but ifconfig can't show anything
[06:30] <pstv> i'm a newbie
[06:30] <Fryguy--> BenniBoya: what? windows in ubuntu? what are you talking about?
[06:31] <BenniBoya> fryguy--: can i build programs for windows eg exes  in ubuntu?
[06:31] <Fryguy--> BenniBoya: what exactly are you trying to do
[06:31] <Fryguy--> BenniBoya: no
[06:31] <ryan_mandelbaum>  i have a mac g3 ppc and my synaptic keeps crashing every time i search for something can anyone help me?
[06:31] <catmistake> How do you reconfigure gdm?
[06:31] <pstv> is there a way to find the programs i install?
[06:31] <catmistake> gdk-config or somehting like that/
[06:31] <catmistake> ?
[06:31] <ompaul> !snyaptic | pstv
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snyaptic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <Arekkusu> ryan_mandelbaum, have you tried leaving it for about 10-20 seconds after it turns black and white?
[06:32] <geoaxis> hello people
[06:32] <BenniBoya> one alst thing, where is the ubuntu version fo a PATH file? ive added my path command to profile and bash_rc and it didnt work
[06:32] <ompaul> !snynaptic | pstv
[06:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snynaptic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <ryan_mandelbaum> it closes completely
[06:32] <Fryguy--> BenniBoya: it does, you probably have to log out and log back in
[06:32] <ompaul> !synaptic | pstv
[06:32] <ubotu> pstv: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[06:32] <geoaxis> I am have an intel motherbaord with has intel high definition audio
[06:32] <BenniBoya> dw i fixed it
[06:32] <Fryguy--> (or just export a new path on your current shell)
[06:32] <pstv> i use snyaptic to install but where did it install
[06:32] <BenniBoya> ty
[06:32] <Fryguy--> pstv: debians package manager installs to standard linux locations (/usr/bin etc) by default
[06:32] <geoaxis> any chance that i can get its drivers out of box
[06:32] <Arekkusu> ryan_mandelbaum, that's very odd.  Are you using Hardy?
[06:32] <prince_jammys> pstv: what did you just install?
[06:33] <ryan_mandelbaum> no dapper
[06:33] <ompaul> pstv, once installed it runs /bin /usr/bin /usr/sbin /usr/local/bin lots of places are correct
[06:33] <pstv> i google for help but no luck
[06:33] <pstv> aircrack ng
[06:33] <nickrud> lkthomas: lsmod | grep sky2 , what do you get back?
[06:33] <prince_jammys> pstv: have you tried to run it from command line?
[06:33] <pstv> i heard about it and as curious
[06:34] <lkthomas> nickrud: empty
[06:34] <pstv> i installed it through synaptic but now where do i execute it
[06:34] <Fryguy--> pstv: just run aircrack-ng, from a terminal or whatever
[06:34] <prince_jammys> pstv: try typing "aircrack" in a terminal. (Applications->Accessories->Terminal)
[06:34] <nickrud> lkthomas: try sudo modprobe sky2 (based on http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/SKY2.html)  , then check your ifconfig
[06:35] <ryan_mandelbaum> no imusing dapper
[06:35] <ompaul> pstv, from menu Applications Accessories Terminal
[06:35] <pstv> i did that too but nothing shows.. googled it
[06:35] <ompaul> pstv, type air and hit the tab key
[06:35] <pstv> ok let me try rite now
[06:35] <Flyerfye> how do you end a process in terminal?
[06:35] <pstv> just air and hit tab? ok
[06:35] <stiv2k> what the heck is "extra timer interrupt" in powerTOP?  It's causing 80% of my wakeups per second
[06:35] <Arekkusu> ryan_mandelbaum, your sources list might be corrupted.
[06:35] <Fryguy--> Flyerfye: use the kill command
[06:35] <lkthomas> nickrud: modprobe sky2, but then eth still not found
[06:35] <Fryguy--> or ctrl-c will kill most currently running processes in termianl
[06:36] <pstv> nothing happen
[06:36] <ttotally> grub doesn't seem to be correctly configured .. i'm getting "Error 15: file not found". In grub.conf, it seems to be treating (hd0,0) as the root file system, but it's /boot. and the root device is sda5, not hda1. are these known issues?
[06:36] <prince_jammys> Flyerfye: kill PROCESSID or killall proces_name or pkill process_name
[06:36] <ryan_mandelbaum> i checked that all it looks fine
[06:36] <Flyerfye> what if I dont know what the process is?
[06:36] <nickrud> dpkg -L aircrack-ng | grep bin should show executables
[06:36] <Flyerfye> My mozilla says it wont open a new window until I close the old one
[06:36] <Flyerfye> the problem is, I dont think the old one is running
[06:36] <prince_jammys> Flyerfye: killall firefox-bin
[06:36] <pstv> i've also tried apt-cache search aircrack
[06:36] <Finnish> Is there an easy way to update to newest version of Audacious?
[06:36] <mavi-> Flyerfye: alt-f3, killall -KILL firefox
[06:36] <Fryguy--> Flyerfye: ps is a command that can help you find running processes and ways of identifying them
[06:36] <ttotally> this is a fresh install
[06:36] <Fryguy--> killall with a processname works too
[06:37] <Flyerfye> thank you
[06:37] <sladigar> or, just use system monitor
[06:37] <Arekkusu> ryan_mandelbaum, there are no error messages at all?
[06:37] <pstv> anyone?
[06:37] <Fryguy--> ttotally: sounds like you tried to do some custom stuff during the install, so no it's not a known issue.  you're pretty much on your own if you decide to do something other than what the guided install tells you to do
[06:37] <nickrud> lkthomas: That's about all I know about that chip. It's listed there, as supposedly supported by that driver. There's not a heck of a lot about that unknown device on google
[06:37] <aseanocho> Hey all.  Does anyone know how to find out the proper vga setting for the CLI text size?
[06:37] <ryan_mandelbaum> no
[06:37] <prince_jammys> pstv: type "man aircrack"
[06:38] <ttotally> Fryguy--, ah, okay. is there any way to get to the grub.conf file to edit it?
[06:38] <mavi-> aseanocho: google. there are lists over those resolutions
[06:38] <Fryguy--> ttotally: it's in /boot
[06:38] <prince_jammys> pstv: aircrack is probably a command-line tool that comes with several executables
[06:38] <pstv> let me try man aircrack
[06:38] <prince_jammys> pstv: that's just a guess
[06:38] <prince_jammys> pstv: it's a wireless packet sniffer, right?
[06:38] <stiv2k> what the heck is "extra timer interrupt" in powerTOP?  It's causing 80% of my wakeups per second
[06:38] <ttotally> Fryguy--, right, but the filesystem won't mount or something's wrong. I can't get my hands on anything.
[06:39] <aseanocho> mavi-:  I've googled it, and tried mult settings.  Nothing has worked except for vga=ask, and I don't like any of its options.
[06:39] <Fryguy--> ttotally: without knowing what you did, nobody is going to be able to help you
[06:39] <ttotally> Fryguy--, okay
[06:39] <ogre> anyone tried aircrack ptw?
[06:39] <BenniBoya> i just downloaded vim, how do i open it, i used synaptic package manager
[06:39] <ryan_mandelbaum> how do i reply to a specific person
[06:39] <bastid_raZor> aseanocho; http://tinyurl.com/2q9qrd may help
[06:39] <ogre> err aircrack-ptw*
[06:39] <stefano> ubuntu used to recognize my ntfs partition but suddenly hasnt recognised it anymore, any clues?
[06:39] <Fryguy--> BenniBoya: run it like you would any other program...
[06:39] <Fryguy--> it'll also show up in your applications menu
[06:39] <pstv> is there a menu i can install that will show applications installed from synaptic
[06:39] <n2diy_> ! sd
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <ogre> stefano:  external?
[06:39] <Arekkusu> ryan_mandelbaum, I'm sorry, I don't think I can help.  It would be best to repost your question for all to see.  I can't do anything without error messages.
[06:39] <stefano> internal
[06:39] <crypt1029> pstv try joining #aircrack-ng for help with your issues
[06:39] <nickrud> pstv: apt-cache show aircrack-ng
[06:40] <BenniBoya> its not in applications emnu
[06:40] <ogre> stefano:  one have windows on it?
[06:40] <crypt1029> chances are I can help you out with it
[06:40] <stefano> got ubuntu and windows on same hard drive
[06:40] <Fryguy--> BenniBoya: so then run it from terminal or w/e then
[06:40] <BenniBoya> when i run ti in terminal, it looke really cut down
[06:40] <crypt1029> I just solved my one problem with aircrack (driver patching issue) but I am pretty versed in aircrack
[06:40] <Fryguy--> BenniBoya: care to be more descriptive?
[06:40] <ryan_mandelbaum> how do i reply to a specific person
[06:41] <Fryguy--> the terminal version runs fine for me, and looks just like any other version of vim i run on any other machine
[06:41] <ompaul> ryan_mandelbaum, you use their nick
[06:41] <aseanocho> mavi-:  Any other suggestions?
[06:41] <PriceChild> !tab | ryan_mandelbaum
[06:41] <ubotu> ryan_mandelbaum: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:41] <BenniBoya> it just looks like a terminal window with room to type,
[06:41] <nickrud> ryan_mandelbaum: type the first few chars of their name, hit the tab key. Repeat until you get their name
[06:41] <neo> i do want to reinstall windows, so the existing mbr will be overwritten ,so unable to access the ubuntu ,,, help!!!!
[06:41] <Arekkusu> Use /msg <name of person> <message>
[06:41] <Fryguy--> BenniBoya: what do you want? the graphical version of vim?
[06:41] <pstv> the apt-cache show aircrack thats just information to the http correct?
[06:41] <neo> i do want to reinstall windows, so the existing mbr will be overwritten ,so unable to access the ubuntu ,,, help!!!!
[06:41] <ompaul> !grub | neo
[06:41] <ubotu> neo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:41] <ryan_mandelbaum> nickrud, thanks
[06:41] <neo> i do want to reinstall windows, so the existing mbr will be overwritten ,so unable to access the ubuntu ,,, help!!!!
[06:41] <ompaul> !repeat | neo
[06:41] <ubotu> neo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:41] <ogre> stefano:  either an unclean shutdown or you have to change premissions to the ntfs partition. i know when i had win that id have to do into /media/ and open it up as root to read my win partition
[06:41] <Starnestommy> neo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:41] <nickrud> ah, I'm the first nick highlight for ryan_mandelbaum !
[06:42] <Fryguy--> BenniBoya: that's gvim, it's in a different package.  'apt-cache search vim' to see the different options available to you (vim-full is a reasonable choice)
[06:42] <BenniBoya> is there a vim gui?
[06:42] <prince_jammys> neo you're back -- i was typing about this as you left
[06:42] <nickrud> BenniBoya: gvim
[06:42] <ompaul> nickrud, wrong
[06:42] <BenniBoya> kk ty
[06:42] <pstv> i'll do more googling on the aircrack... here's my other question
[06:42] <nickrud> ompaul: tab comleted highlight ;p
[06:42] <stefano> ok thanks
[06:42] <Arekkusu> !patience
[06:42] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:42] <ryan_mandelbaum> Arekkusu, thanks for trying
[06:42] <ompaul> nickrud, I got him the other way but yeah we bot did :)
[06:42] <pstv> does anyone have atlantis pluging and how can i get it
[06:42] <n2diy_> I have two SD cards, both work in my camera, but only one works in my reader?
[06:43] <ogre> pstv:  let me know if you find anything interesting. i would like to learn about myself
[06:43] <ompaul> dosfsck | n2diy_
[06:43] <ryan_mandelbaum> bye
[06:43] <pstv> ogre how does irc work can i add u somehow
[06:43] <Fryguy--> lol
[06:43] <n2diy_> ompaul: ?
[06:44] <ttotally> Fryguy--, I didn't do anything very complicated. Set up "/boot" on /dev/sda1, "/" on /dev/sda5. Then ran install, rebooted and got the error.
[06:44] <ompaul> n2diy_, there is a program called dosfsck and it might be of use to you
[06:44] <sd32> !irc
[06:44] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[06:44] <pstv> so does anyone have Atlantis (the fish aquarian) plugin?
[06:44] <ogre> pstv:  try /j #airc and meet me in there
[06:44] <cnStarz> does anyone nkow how to fix overscanning?
[06:45] <pstv> orge: how about msn do u have that
[06:45] <crypt1029> pstv
[06:45] <crypt1029> you want the atlantis plugin?
[06:45] <pstv> cryptl029: ?
[06:45] <n2diy_> ompaul: why would I need that? I'm not running DOSh here?
[06:45] <crypt1029> it should be part of compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[06:46] <crypt1029> I think
[06:46] <pstv> yes i do
[06:46] <ogre> pstv:  yes i do but i cant pm u because this nick is unregged. join that channel and ill give u my mSN
[06:46] <crypt1029> install that one through the plugin manager
[06:46] <ompaul> n2diy_, the cards more than likely are
[06:46] <crypt1029> pstv:  it should be part of compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[06:46] <neo> i have installed a lot of softwares and costumized my settings for ubuntu,,, i case i reinstall ubuntu the installed softwares and settings will be lost ,,,, can i make an image just like ¨norton ghost¨   so that i can just revert back to the older image
[06:47] <Fryguy--> neo:  yes
[06:47] <pstv> plugin manager? hold on
[06:47] <ogre> ompaul:  i know. cant register this nick though :( thanks anyhow
[06:47] <n2diy_> ompaul: I'm not running an M$ here, why would one card play with linux, and the other one won't?
[06:47] <SupaFly> Hey i really really need some help desperatly, please help me with this cause my entire computer is having troubles: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4450172&postcount=1
[06:48] <neo> Fryguy: how?
[06:48] <Fryguy--> same way you do in windows..
[06:48] <pstv> is that the compiz-fusion plugin extra?
[06:48] <Fryguy--> make the image and restore it or whatever
[06:48] <ompaul> n2diy_, I made a suggestion based on prior knowledge - the cards format can be broken
[06:48] <SupaFly> nah just ccsm
[06:48] <SupaFly> compiz config settings manager
[06:48] <neo> tell me the exact procedure...
[06:48] <SupaFly> i installed it, then everything went bonkers
[06:48] <SupaFly> ok
[06:49] <SupaFly> i went and done sudo apt-get install ccsm
[06:49] <crypt1029> pstv: yes I think so
[06:49] <SupaFly> then i turned on the desktop 3d cube
[06:49] <SupaFly> then the customs visual effects turned off
[06:49] <pstv> ok let me try
[06:49] <SupaFly> then all the visual effects stopped working
[06:49] <n2diy_> ompaul:roger that, but they both work in the camera, but only one in the reader!?
[06:49] <SupaFly> then my taskbars, both bottom and top dissapeared
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[06:49] <ompaul> n2diy_, camera more forgiving?
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[06:50] <SupaFly> now i have absolutly nothing on the desktop except for the wallpaper
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[06:50] <pnukeid>  i want try install apache+php with deb (ubuntu), but mysql install with source.. it can ?
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[06:50] <neo> Fryguy: do u know exact procedure?
[06:50] <n2diy_> ompaul: I guess?
[06:50] <pstv> i've already got the compiz-fusion plugin extra installed but it doesn't have the atlantis plugin
[06:50] <Fryguy--> neo: no
[06:50] <pstv> ogre: did i get your msn?
[06:51] <neo> any help
[06:51] <sickz> hola, tengo un duda con ubuntu, alguien podria ayudarme?
[06:52] <pstv> thanx for the help guys.. i'm new to ubuntu but i'm starting to love it
[06:52] <Fryguy--> SupaFly: what happens if you run metacity --replace
[06:52] <Odd-rationale> !es | sickz
[06:52] <ubotu> sickz: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:52] <pstv> to be honest its kinda hard work with it
[06:52] <Fryguy--> pstv: not really :/
[06:52] <prince_jammys> neo you could burn a copy of your home dir on CD, and then use aptoncd to save the installed packages *i think*
[06:53] <sickz> thanks Odd-rationale
[06:53] <sickz> :)
[06:53] <pstv> Fryguy would u like to be my teacher
[06:53] <Fryguy--> no
[06:53] <SupaFly> Fryguy ill try that now
[06:53] <prince_jammys> !info aptoncd : neo take a look at this
[06:53] <ubotu> aptoncd (source: aptoncd): Installation disc creator for packages downloaded via APT. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.97-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 135 kB, installed size 1024 kB
[06:53] <pstv> i'm sure this chat room is a great place to start for support..thanx guys
[06:53] <SupaFly> Fryguy nothing, im still missing everything from the desktop
[06:54] <pstv> gtg..bye
[06:54] <SupaFly> oh man, i hate it when things like this happen S
[06:54] <Fryguy--> SupaFly: run gnome-panel --sm-client-id default1
[06:54] <SupaFly> ok
[06:54] <neo> would this revert back the softwares that i have installed from reposetry
[06:54] <SupaFly> Fryguy it says "A panel is already running."
[06:54] <prince_jammys> neo: this would save the packages from your cache and then you could reinstall
[06:54] <SupaFly> weird, cause there aint no pannels running
[06:55] <SupaFly> i tried rebooting to make sure too
[06:55] <prince_jammys> !clone | neo: check this out too
[06:55] <ubotu> neo: check this out too: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[06:55] <Fryguy--> SupaFly: run "killall gnome-panel" and then run the other command
[06:55] <SupaFly> Fryguy dude, you are a legend, it got my panels and desktop back!
[06:55] <SupaFly> thanks heaps :)
[06:56] <prince_jammys> neo: that last one saves a text file that lists all your packages.  you then save the text file somewhere and run the second command to download and reinstall all the same packages
[06:56] <Fryguy--> SupaFly: btw, there's tons of random stuff going on with ati and compiz, might want to do a bit more research before you screw with compiz some more
[06:56] <Fryguy--> SupaFly: or just go and buy an nvidia card
[06:56] <SupaFly> yeah thats true
[06:56] <SupaFly> im getting a new pc very very soon, so im gona get an nvidia card this time
[06:57] <prince_jammys> neo: that pretty much leaves out your personal settings, which you can do by saving all the hidden directories in your home dir
[06:57]  * chalcedony smiles
[06:57] <neo> in case of no internet connection????
[06:58] <prince_jammys> neo: in case of no interned, install aptoncd and create a cd with your packages
[06:58] <chalcedony> what's the command line command to get a file from a url ?
[06:58] <Fryguy--> chalcedony: wget
[06:58] <chalcedony> Fryguy--: TY :)
[06:59] <chalcedony> can't remember the word
[06:59] <Saajan> Hello people !
[06:59] <XiXaQ> only sudoers get the Update Available icon in the notification area, right?
[06:59] <nickrud> chalcedony: thing web get, you'll never forget again
[07:00] <chalcedony> nickrud: THANK YOU :)
[07:00] <Fryguy--> man i'm really starting to like freebsd
[07:00] <chalcedony> Fryguy--: a lot of people do
[07:00] <iter> Fryguy--: go bears
[07:00] <neo> then how to revert back using aponcd
[07:00] <Fryguy--> iter: lol
[07:01] <fallore> when xchat starts up on ubuntu start it is positioned so that the top bar you drag to move the window is behind the top "applications, places, system" toolbar. is there a way to change this?
[07:01] <Fryguy--> fallore: depends on what window manager you are using
[07:01] <Saajan> t
[07:01] <crypt1029> hey, I finally got make modules to work w/o it yelling at me about needing loadable module support
[07:01] <fallore> Fryguy--: i haven't touched it to my knowledge
[07:01] <b_ecca> help with syncing iphone to ubuntu... it says add user to fuse something... so what i did was to type 'sudo usermod -G username'... not 'sudo apt-get does not work' :( help
[07:01] <Saajan> try to change screen resolution
[07:02] <crypt1029> I had to copy the .config file into the sources directory
[07:02] <Fryguy--> b_ecca: edit /etc/group manually, the user needs to be in the wheel group to sudo
[07:02] <b_ecca> it says Sorry, user username is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/apt-get update' as root on username"
[07:02] <b_ecca> ill try it @ Fryguy
[07:02] <chalcedony> ok how to unzip `install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz' ?
[07:03] <Fryguy--> chalcedony: tar xzf flash_blahblah.tar.gz
[07:03] <chalcedony> oh you're great
[07:03] <chalcedony> ty
[07:03] <ogre> chalcedony:  with cli or gui?
[07:03] <ttotally> does ubuntu automatically make /boot a directory on the root file tree, or can it handle /boot as a separate partition? anyone?
[07:03] <you_> help me
[07:03] <ttotally> i mean "the ubuntu install program"
[07:03] <Odd-rationale> ttotally: You can have /boot separate
[07:03] <prince_jammys> ttotally: you can do it either way
[07:04] <you_> I met some problem during upgrade
[07:04] <chalcedony> ogra: command line (visually impaired)
[07:04] <Fryguy--> you_: can't help you until you ask a question