[22:38] <Lns> ha!
[22:38] <Lns> call me picard then, haha
[22:38] <nubae> Aye Captain
[22:38] <nubae> engage
[22:38] <Lns> =p
[22:39] <nubae> heh, but then u need to rename ure app to: Next Generation
[22:39] <Ahmuck_> Lns, if you were in a car accident tomorrow is there enough linux personal in the area to pick up your clients?
[22:39] <nubae> I highly doubt it
[22:39] <Lns> nope
[22:39] <nubae> but thats the whole point
[22:39] <Lns> which is why i'm in a very good position :)
[22:39] <nubae> if there were, he wouldnt have those jobs
[22:39] <nubae> right
[22:40] <Lns> nubae, that's not true, i'd still be the best =)
[22:40] <nubae> its like people that know how to code in fortran
[22:40] <Ahmuck_> so, as a school administrator/board why in the world would i want to put ltsp in my school if you are my only contact for support
[22:40] <nubae> they're not that many but those that do exist, get paid well for that knowledge
[22:40] <Ahmuck_> if it breaks and your gone then what?
[22:40] <nubae> because its that good
[22:40] <nubae> and saves u that much money
[22:40] <Lns> Ahmuck_, community support often rivals paid support
[22:40] <nubae> its all about TCOS
[22:40] <Ahmuck_> nubae: it saves me no money if i have to fly someone in from kansas city to fix it
[22:41] <nubae> and who said u have to do that?
[22:41] <Lns> Ahmuck_, you're forgetting that things break much less in these setups
[22:41] <nubae> and remote assistance is quite easy with ltsp setups
[22:41] <nubae> less hardware to break
[22:41] <nubae> and if it does break, they can just put another machine in its place and be off again
[22:41] <nubae> cant do that in normal scenario
[22:41] <nubae> even if server breaks, switch hard drives and continue
[22:42] <nubae> its redundancy can be set up so u really are very very safe
[22:42] <nubae> much safer than any windows setup ever
[22:42] <nubae> In the setups I manage, I usually have 2 hard disks, one of which is a dd of the other
[22:42] <Lns> with my 9 setups i rarely have any big issues, after 3 years. Can't remember the last time a whole lab went down
[22:42] <nubae> cron'd per day
[22:43] <nubae> that way, if the server/hard drive dies, its a max of 24 hours of lost material
[22:43] <Ahmuck_> nubae: why not linux software raid?
[22:43] <nubae> not really needed in my experience, prefer to use the drive as a direct backup
[22:43] <Ahmuck_> with linux software raid you wouldn't loose 24 hours would you?
[22:43] <nubae> so they can pull out the damaged one, and put in the backup and continue working like nothing happened, send me or give me the broken one
[22:44] <Lns> you can also mount dd images and extract files
[22:44] <nubae> it depends on how u set it up... u can of course set up a cron job to dd the drive every couple minutes if u really wanted to
[22:44] <Lns> or in nubae's case simply plug it in
[22:44] <nubae> right
[22:44] <Lns> nubae, dd would take more than a couple mins on anything bigger than a floppy disk ;)
[22:44] <nubae> I tell them to do dds to dvds too, and take that out the building, in case of fire or whatever
[22:45] <nubae> Lns: tru dat :D but u know what I mean
[22:45] <Lns> yup
[22:45]  * nubae slaps Lns... nitpicker
[22:45] <Lns> hey when you have nothing else to argue about.. =p
[22:46] <isforinsects> What time is that meeting anyway?
[22:46] <isforinsects> 1800 utc?
[22:46] <nubae> anyway, I offered to take over Lns clients if he ever gets hit by a truck
[22:46] <nubae> hehe
[22:46] <nubae> isforinsects: u missed it
[22:46] <isforinsects> ? :-(
[22:46] <isforinsects> sad panda
[22:47] <nubae> bad panda
[22:47] <isforinsects> I have the scrollback
[22:47] <nubae> ;-)
[22:47] <isforinsects> I was told 1800 utc, which is ... 1300 my time
[22:47] <nubae> we spoke briefly about sugar
[22:47] <isforinsects> right... I went the wrong way with thta math
[22:47] <nubae> hehe
[22:48] <nubae> basically it boils down to someone whose passionate enough about it to do it. I have this terrible feeling that might be me
[22:48] <nubae> but I wont be able to work on it until after I'm done with the Suse work...
[22:50] <Lns> nubae, =)
[22:52] <Ahmuck_> alkisg: installed.  as clients come on, should i be seeing them in the window?
[22:53] <alkisg> Νο
[22:53] <alkisg> You'll have to restart italc to see the new clients
[22:53] <alkisg> (or declare them all in a static file so you'll see them when they come on)
[22:53] <Ahmuck_> only clients logging on are shown ?
[22:54] <Ahmuck_> so i assume that a static file is used for remote login/poweron
[22:54] <Ahmuck_> Lns: do you hardset your ip address for your clients?
[22:54] <alkisg> Ahmuck_: to see clients before logon, you need to install it to the chroot.
[22:55] <Lns> Ahmuck_, no, everything is just dhcp for me. i don't use italc though
[22:56] <Ahmuck_> classroom --> autodetected computers does what?
[22:57] <alkisg> Displays autodetected clients
[22:57] <alkisg> (already logged on)
[23:03] <Ahmuck_> alkisg: i'm seeing two now.  after restart
[23:05] <alkisg> There's a wiki page for italc on ltsp.
[23:06] <pygi> is italc that weird win-like software?
[23:06] <Lns> heh, pygi that's what i thought too.. qt looks lots like windows
[23:06] <pygi> Lns: its not the qt that look like windows
[23:06] <pygi> I like qt in fact
[23:06] <pygi> its just the italc interface
[23:07] <Lns> well it is cross platform
[23:07] <nubae> yeah does look windowsy, maybe because theres a windows version too?
[23:08] <pygi> oh well
[23:08] <pygi> nubae: pidgin also has a win version, yet its the same as linux one
[23:09] <Lns> afaik italc isn't even being developed anymore
[23:09] <pygi> Lns: heh, really?
[23:10] <pygi> the we have no sane tool to use
[23:10] <pygi> (Not that italc was sane, but it was the closest to a working tool)
[23:10] <Lns> not saying it doesn't work
[23:11] <pygi> Lns: I know, but we can't shop something that isn't maintained
[23:11] <Lns> but i think the guy i'm working with to get tcm-ng looked into italc, he said the last commit was ~2007
[23:11] <Lns> that's how i feel too..that's why i wanted to make something better =)
[23:11] <nubae> last I checked the messaging from and to thin clients was done some time last year
[23:12] <nubae> towards the end
[23:12] <nubae> so think its still active
[23:12] <pygi> TCM-NG is in what language, and why did you make it look like italic? o.O
[23:12] <pygi> (sorry for being a bit harsh, but italics gui is really useless)
[23:12] <Lns> pygi, python and..huh?
[23:12] <Lns> we don't even have an interface for it yet =)
[23:12] <pygi> Lns: bleh xD
[23:13] <pygi> I misread your sentence
[23:13] <pygi> sorry xD
[23:13] <Lns> haha
[23:13] <pygi> I might see what's up with the code, is it any good :)
[23:13] <pygi> if you remind me next week
[23:14] <Lns> i dunno, ianap :) i'm contracting someone out to bring my "vision" to life ;)
[23:14] <pygi> Lns: tcm-ng seems to have 4 revisions, all by Pete? :p
[23:15] <Lns> pygi, no that was the older tcm
[23:15] <Lns> all we've done is put up a bzr
[23:15] <pygi> Lns: please be kind to link me up? :)
[23:15] <pygi> ah, so its empty? :)
[23:15] <Lns> the code is being reviewed
[23:15] <pygi> oki
[23:15] <pygi> tell me once its ready pls
[23:15] <Lns> it's far from anything useful at this point
[23:15] <Lns> lol
[23:15] <Lns> ok..will do.
[23:16] <pygi> (not for production, for reading code and being a critic :P)
[23:16] <Lns> sure
[23:16] <Lns> I'm sure we'll be announcing stuff hopefully sometime soon
[23:16] <Lns> if you're interested in keeping up, we have an #lns channel that we're collaborating on. I'm setting up a logbot right now
[23:17] <pygi> Lns: I am interested, but sadly you'll have to keep me updated
[23:17] <pygi> too much work going on in various areas to track one more :-/
[23:17] <Lns> it's ok, if its not a priority to you then its not to me that you are ;)
[23:17] <Ahmuck_> Lns: ur intent is to replace italc with something?
[23:18] <Lns> Ahmuck_, no, not really, although some functionality might overlap
[23:18] <Lns> tcm-ng aims to be ltsp specific
[23:18] <Ahmuck_> is it gpl ?
[23:18] <Lns> yup
[23:18] <Lns> of course!
[23:18] <pygi> GPL2 or 3? or 2 and later? :)
[23:18] <Ahmuck_> i'm interested in testing.  have a svn or git link ?
[23:18] <pygi> Ahmuck_: they use bzr :p
[23:18] <pygi> and he just told you its under consideration :)
[23:18] <Lns> gpl3
[23:18] <Ahmuck_> pygi: he's shown snapshots :)
[23:19] <pygi> Ahmuck_: photoshop, don't trust him :p
[23:19]  * pygi hides
[23:19] <Lns> Ahmuck_, https://launchpad.net/tcm-ng
[23:19] <Lns> i don't have screenshots.. ??
[23:20] <Lns> if you saw screenies those are from the old projects
[23:20] <nubae> Lns: u know I've documented how to set up eggdrop to log right?
[23:20] <Ahmuck_> hrm, maybe it was someone else in here deving something up for thin client manament
[23:20] <nubae> its on my website somwehere in case u need that
[23:20] <Lns> nubae, i mgiht look at that..just going through eggdrop.conf right now actually
[23:20]  * Ahmuck_ have to look at today's and yesterday's logs
[23:21] <nubae> its a biiig config file
[23:21] <Lns> yea it is
[23:21] <nubae> takes a  good 15 minutes just to skim through it
[23:22] <nubae> my eyes are hurting friom watching rpms scrolling by being made
[23:22] <nubae> I need to get to bed.... talk to u guys tomorrow... I'm happy to see so much activity on the channel
[23:23] <Lns> cool nubae, thx for all the involvement
[23:24] <nubae> and to u
[23:24] <nubae> even though we're still not considered edubuntu members lol
[23:24] <Lns> heh
[23:25] <Lns> oh well..i like being an 'outsider'
[23:25] <nubae> but u're not really, u're an insider without credit :-(
[23:25] <Lns> i don't want to be famous ;)
[23:26] <nubae> me either, but I want to be able to have the rights to do stuff with the project
[23:26] <Lns> srue
[23:26] <Lns> sure*
[23:27] <Lns> it'll come...patience grasshopper, haha
[23:28] <nubae> nah. yah... I've got to go to bed... bye bye
[23:28] <pygi> nubae: and being an edubuntu member gives you what rights more then you have now?
[23:33] <Ahmuck_> hrm, don't know if it's iTalc releated ... The ISD-Server could not be started because port 5800 is alrleady in use.  Please make sure that no other application is using this port and try again.  Logged my out and logged Guest in with this message just now.
[23:34] <Ahmuck_> well, ditching iTalc sounds like a good idea, though it did look like a promising piece of software for use
[23:35] <Lns> Ahmuck_, i had that same issue. there are particulars in getting it to work w/ltsp
[23:37] <Lns> Ahmuck_, http://italc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=ITALC_in_a_ThinClient_environment
[23:37] <Ahmuck_> i'm going to save the ubuntu 9.04 ltsp vm, and may working through it step by step and see what apps and tools work, but i've decided to look for something else.  i can't see that much came out of the meeting other than the same thing that happened on the mlist a couple of weeks ago
[23:37] <Ahmuck_> it's all so disorganized
[23:37] <Lns> Ahmuck_, look for something else?
[23:52] <Ahmuck_> nubae: u using opensuse-edu or edubuntu?


[10:41] <ii> Anyone around to help?
[10:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> !ask
[10:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:42] <ii> OK, I've already been around a couple of days ago...
[10:42] <ii> Speaking to sbalnaev, ogra ...
[10:42] <ii> Had a problem mounting USB flash drives on thin-clients...
[10:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah. i probably cant help with that
[10:43] <ii> Got it working finally - but afterwards found that it only works on ONE client at a time ....
[10:43] <ii> Who should I speak to?
[10:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> hang around, hopefully who you spoke to a few days ago will get online
[10:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> they are probably at UDS though
[10:46] <ii> Thanks for your time.
[10:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> no worries, good luck with the problem
[10:48] <ii> Kamping_Kaiser: While you're around, how about a question about disk quota management - do you know how to set this up?
[10:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> ii, no. as far as ubuntu goes, i'm stuck in the past - theres probably all sorts of cool and easy ways to set it up, which icant tell you
[10:51] <ii> OK
[12:34] <stgraber> RichEd: do we have the edubuntu specs on LP now ?
[13:06] <RichEd> stgraber: ogra has most of the edubuntu ones in ...
[13:06] <RichEd> i have the 1st classmate (planning session for the rest of the specs) in as well
[13:06] <RichEd> and then sorting out the education discussion specs now
[13:07] <stgraber> ok, I'll subscribe to some of them then
[13:37] <sbalneav> Morning all
[13:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> sbalneav, hey mate
[13:39] <sbalneav> Hello Kamping_Kaiser!
[13:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> sbalneav, :) hows it going?
[13:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> i note your at UDS
[13:41] <sbalneav> I am!
[13:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> enjoying yourself?
[13:41] <sbalneav> So far.  We're in the "launchpad 101" right now with Keybuk.
[13:41] <ubotu> Bug 101 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/101 is private
[13:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[13:42] <sbalneav> I'm not really paying attention, as I'm fairly conversant with launchpad at this point :)
[13:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[13:42]  * Kamping_Kaiser just spotted an email saying 'gobuntu today' - this causes me destinc lack of joy :(
[13:43] <sbalneav> How come?
[13:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm thinking about subbing myself to any specs that involve edubuntu/ubuntu server. see if i can get myself involved again this cycle
[13:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> Tue Oct 30 00:13:36 CST 2007
[13:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm meant to be in bed - 2 hours ago :|
[13:43] <sbalneav> lol
[13:43] <sbalneav> No rest for the wicked :)
[13:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> :P
[13:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'll be buggered at work tomorrow - oh well, suppose tis to be expected
[13:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> later mate. enjoy UDS
[14:47] <bddebian> Heya
[14:52] <silentmind> I work in a school that has an ancient IT suite, a dozen or so PC's running win98 and they are all networked via a router. my question is, how difficult would it be to get edubuntu working on them with network support?
[14:53] <silentmind> if I just boot them all off the live CD, will they be able to "see" each other and access the internet?
[14:53] <HenriqueGogo> please, I want a help: how I install files in my Plam by GNOME-PILOT? (I can syncronize my to do list and address.. but I dont know how I install *.prc or *.pdb br GNOME-PILOT)... please, some help!
[14:54] <silentmind> HenriqueGogo,  just drag the *.prc on to the gnome pilot icon then sync as usual, works for me
[14:56] <sbalneav> RichEd: http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-boston-2007/
[14:56] <HenriqueGogo> silentmind: I tried this, but doesnt work
[14:59] <silentmind> HenriqueGogo, sorry but i dot know what else to suggest
[16:50] <flint_> RichEd, url or gobby session are you placing the classmate specification in?
[16:51] <RichEd> will be on a wiki page ... in my notepad now ... will publish after lunch ... prolly around 3:00
[16:51] <flint_> RichEd, thanks
[16:57] <Amaranth> http://content.zdnet.com/2346-12355_22-172164.html
[16:57] <flint_> I just do not use the "zed" word, so sorry...
[18:08] <LaserJock> hi all
[18:09] <Burgundavia> hey LaserJock
[18:10] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: you in Boston?
[18:12] <desertc> Anyone here from the education profession?
[18:14] <cliebow__> me..
[18:28] <richard__> anyone on to help me troubleshoot an issue i'm having?
[18:29] <flint_> richard__, what kind of issue are you involved with?
[18:30] <richard__> ltsp
[18:30] <richard__> clients sometimes freeze and after hard reboot after login come up with black screen and cursor
[18:31] <desertc> Anyone else an educator?  Seemed to have lost contact with cliebow
[18:32] <Burgundavia> yep
[18:37] <LaserJock> haha, I hear Scotty!!
[18:37] <LaserJock> and Oli
[18:47] <LaserJock> stgraber: so what's the consensus?
[18:47] <stgraber> LTSP will be on ubuntu alternate (with a ltsp kernel), then all the education softwares will be on the add-on cd
[18:48] <LaserJock> so dropping the first CD?
[18:48] <stgraber> yes, edubuntu being something you add on top of the ubuntu alternate/desktop cd
[18:49] <LaserJock> stgraber: tell everybody hello
[18:53] <richard__> clients sometimes freeze and after hard reboot after login come up with black screen and cursor
[18:53] <richard__> processes for that user continue to run
[18:56] <LaserJock> RichEd: ping
[18:56] <stgraber> LaserJock: done
[18:56] <stgraber> LaserJock: he's talking with cjwatson :)
[18:57] <LaserJock> k
[18:57] <RichEd> LaserJock: p0nG
[19:06] <highvoltage> howzit guys
[19:07] <richard__> sucky
[19:07] <LaserJock> hi highvoltage
[19:08] <highvoltage> richard, cant scroll up on this device, so cant read your whole problem
[19:08] <highvoltage> richard, but what i have done in labs before...
[19:09] <richard__> clients sometimes freeze and after hard reboot after login come up with black screen and cursor
[19:09] <highvoltage> is to install slay and add it to the logout scripts
[19:09] <richard__> processes for that user continue to run so when they log in they get a black screen
[19:09] <highvoltage> slay kills all the processes of the user its running as ans then itself
[19:13] <richard__> sbalneav, you are here just in time
[19:13] <richard__> can you help me with a problem i'm having?
[19:13] <richard__> clients sometimes freeze and after hard reboot after login come up with black screen and cursor
[19:14] <richard__> processes for that user continue to run so when they log in they get a black screen
[19:14] <richard__> .xsession-errors: http://pastebin.ca/754016
[19:42] <richard__> sbalneav, any idea on above issue?
[19:42] <sbalneav> Sorry, didn't see it
[19:42] <sbalneav> Can you repeat?
[19:42] <richard__> clients sometimes freeze and after hard reboot after login come up with black screen and cursor
[19:43] <richard__> processes for that user continue to run so when they log in they get a black screen
[19:43] <richard__> .xsession-errors: http://pastebin.ca/754016
[19:50] <sbalneav> richard__: Well, if you're not logging out properly, you'll have to do a pkill -u userid to clean out the old processes.
[19:51] <sbalneav> Using moquists's xterminator would help too.
[19:51] <richard__> hmm... is there a way to have that run automatically when someone tries to log in with the same username?
[19:56] <sbalneav> Yes, that's the idea of it.
[19:56] <sbalneav> moquist: ping
[19:57] <sbalneav> richard__: keep an eye for moquist, he can help you with it.
[19:57] <moquist> pongo
[19:57] <dtrask> He's coming
[19:57] <moquist> I'm talking with sonja, but I'll keep an eye on here...
[19:57] <LaserJock> hi moquist and dtrask
[19:57] <moquist> hey
[19:57] <dtrask> hey LaserJock
[19:57] <dtrask> :-)
[19:58] <sbalneav> moquist: If you can point richard__ at xterminator
[19:59] <dtrask> hang on....
[19:59]  * moquist will have to google to find the URL for his own PPA ;)
[19:59] <moquist> sonja has it. :)
[20:00] <moquist> richard__: add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list: http://ppa.launchpad.net/moquist/ubuntu feisty universe
[20:00] <moquist> richard__: then apt-get install xterminator
[20:00] <moquist> that's it
[20:00] <richard__> moquist, on server? what does this do?
[20:01] <LaserJock> richard__: it kills the left over processes
[20:01] <LaserJock> ogra!
[20:02] <ogra> hey
[20:02] <richard__> so do i install it on the server?
[20:02] <richard__> or in the chroot?
[20:02] <LaserJock> I think the server
[20:04] <richard__> so this kills the left over processes when? is it when a hard reboot is done or is it upon login?
[20:04] <richard__> moquist, do i install this on the server or in the chroot?
[20:05] <LaserJock> richard__: it kills the processes on logout I believe
[20:05] <LaserJock> it should be on the server
[20:05] <richard__> oh then it won't help me because the issue is when the client doesn't log out properly...
[20:05] <LaserJock> because when the client is shut down it's processes are killed for sure
[20:05] <LaserJock> richard__: I think it'll still work
[20:06] <richard__> ok i'll try it now
[20:06] <LaserJock> it may be at login, I can't remember
[20:06] <LaserJock> but people where having similar issues
[20:06] <LaserJock> and moquist's app seemed to work well for them
[20:07] <richard__> is there anything to configure?
[20:07] <LaserJock> no
[20:08] <richard_> future reference don't type xterminator --help
[20:09] <dtrask> Oops
[20:10] <dtrask> Is that why you disappeared?
[20:10] <dtrask> LOL
[20:10] <dtrask> whoops!
[20:10] <richard_> yeah lol
[20:10] <richard_> that won't happen again
[20:10] <dtrask> moquist is laughing....because he feels bad and realized what happened
[20:10] <dtrask> no config....just install....it does the rest
[20:11] <dtrask> can't remember the file, but you can edit and cut the amount of delay down from a default of 8 seconds to something lower like 4 secs or less.
[20:11] <dtrask> will speed up login time
[20:11] <dtrask> not boot time
[20:12] <richard_> dtrask, and what exactly does this do?
[20:12] <dtrask> in a nutshell....looks at who you are (logging in)...looks for older processes from previous session and KILLS them
[20:13] <richard_> that rocks!
[20:13] <dtrask> thus no more hanging processes
[20:13] <dtrask> wheee!
[20:13] <richard_> ogra, is this xterminator going to be included in future edubuntu releases? this will save my life. (almost)
[20:13] <dtrask> If you read the script...it's quite humourous....it's essentially the murder of an entire family  ;-)
[20:13] <richard_> moquist, worked awesome!!!!
[20:14] <moquist> richard_: great!
[20:14] <moquist> richard_: sorry about the --help bug ;)
[20:14] <dtrask> moquist is actually giddy with excitement and can hardly contain himself
[20:14] <richard_> that's fine as long as it works i'm good!
[20:15] <richard_> this should definitely be included with ltsp!
[20:17] <richard_> moquist, you should add an echo upon xterminator --help saying(don't play with the xterminator or you might find yourself dead, no configuration needed) ;)
[20:18] <LaserJock> haha
[20:28] <ogra> richard_, i dont think its appropriate for a default install, we'll rather fix the apps o not hang (which is already going on) ... but as a safety net we can have a package in univers
[20:28] <ogra> +e
[20:28] <richard_> ok.
[20:29] <LaserJock> highvoltage: ping
[20:29] <ogra> moquist, so something else to train your packaging skills on ;)
[20:30] <LaserJock> indeed
[20:42] <moquist> ogra: I've always intended xterminator to go into universe
[20:43] <moquist> it's not ready yet, but it can be soon.
[20:43] <moquist> The package itself is ready, but the script needs some work...such as --help. :-D
[20:43] <ogra> moquist, would be good to have it in case the desktop team doesnt get everything fixed
[20:44] <richard_> ogra is there a way to set up local usb printer?
[20:44] <moquist> ogra: it's targetted for hardy ;)
[20:44] <ogra> (indeed its importnt that enough people test during hardy development and give feedback to them)
[20:44] <moquist> richard_: local to a thin client?
[20:44] <richard_> yes
[20:44]  * moquist bows out, having obtained that clarification
[20:45] <moquist> richard_: I don't think so, but I'm not an authority on the subject. sbalneav, ogra ?
[20:45] <ogra> plug it in, add PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/usblp0 to your lts.conf
[20:45] <moquist> richard_: See? :)
[20:46] <ogra> then just point the setup to to the client ip (shown on the clients login manager (bottom right)) as jetdirect priter
[20:46] <ogra> s/setup/pinter setup tool/
[20:46] <ogra> *printer :)
[20:47] <richard_> ok i'll try that
[20:48] <richard_> I also have a client that the mouse randomly starts going really slow (usb mouse) any ideas what to look at on it?
[20:49] <ogra> hmm, not really ...
[20:49] <ogra> dmesg on the client in a console might probably reveal something
[21:28] <ii> sbalnaev: ogra: I'm back again (Edubuntu Gutsy server with local devices connection problems).  Thanks for your efforts last time - managed to get it working in the end with your help but ...
[21:28] <ii> ... I didn't realise until later that only ONE client at a time gets access to it's local devices ... this is not dependent upon a specific client or a specific user, but rather whoever logs in first from whatever client has access to local devices - the rest don't.
[21:29] <ii> I've even tried a fresh install WITHOUT playing around with any of the default user accounts (except to add two new users) and I still had exactly the same problem
[21:30] <ii> If it helps at all, then I've noticed that CPU usage on the server remains at close to 100% after the second client has logged on.
[22:47] <bdoin> we have a problem with missing translation with GCompris on Gutsy. It's like the gcompris.mo doesn't get installed.
[22:48] <LaserJock> :/
[23:28] <coolio> can anyone recommend a good school management system


[01:04] <blahdeblah> Hi folks, anyone know where the best place on IRC to announce an upcoming mailing lists outage would be?  Community council already knows about it.
[01:07] <valorie> how long an outage?
[01:09] <Unit193> I'd think the devel channels would be the ones to care.
[01:18] <blahdeblah> valorie: up to 6 hrs starting 00:00 UTC next Monday
[01:20] <valorie> aha
[01:20] <valorie> yes, I think devel chans as well
[01:20]  * valorie will be not only asleep but away from home then, I think