[12:38] <_StefanS_> mel: sorry
[12:38] <_StefanS_> night all
[12:38] <cbox> keith!
[12:39] <melkor> the dpkg way says its not instelled, and I tried the sudo X -configure, then replace the file, but it says no screen
[12:39] <cbox> here's what i have. normal loading time: 3:40. if i hit "ALT F1" just as it starts, loading time: 0:40
[12:39] <saeed> hi all
[12:39] <melkor> er no screens found
[12:39] <mel> try my ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:40] <saeed> can someone please tell me how to run compiz-fusion?
[12:40] <saeed> I know that it works out of the box in ubuntu
[12:40] <saeed> but how does one go about doing it in kubuntu
[12:40] <saeed> ?
[12:40] <saeed> I have downloaded all compiz packages I could find
[12:40] <mel> good
[12:41] <_StefanS_> mel: works
[12:41] <mel> can you help now
[12:41] <_StefanS_> mel: I cant click anything
[12:41] <_StefanS_> mel: Yes
[12:41] <mel> hold
[12:42] <cbox> it looks as though its "stalling" at the beginning of the boot where is says "no resume image found - starting normal boot" what does that mean??
[12:42] <_StefanS_> cbox: for hibernate/suspend in laptops I think
[12:42] <mel> can you see my desktop
[12:42] <cbox> im using a desktop, so how do i turn that feature off?
[12:43] <saeed> anybody can help"
[12:43] <saeed> ??
[12:43] <cbox> and can i assume thats the issue? and when I hit Alt F1, it overrides that and starts normally?
[12:43] <_StefanS_> mel: still only view
[12:43] <_StefanS_> mel: and the graphics dont update
[12:44] <_StefanS_> mel: let me try another vnc client
[12:44] <mel> Hmm ahve you done tis before
[12:44] <mel> sure
[12:44] <cbox> no one has any help fer moi?
[12:45] <keith> cbox, I'm thinking, but nothing's coming to mind yet.  I've seen that "no resume image" msg, but never had a problem there so haven't looked into it.
[12:46] <saeed> anyone can help with compiz?
[12:46] <saeed> anyone?
[12:46] <Yammeh> Hey guys, can you recommend a program for burning images?
[12:46] <cbox> hmm. is there a way I can have the boot script automatically emulate ALTF1 for me? i dont need a blank screen, I'd prefer to see whats going on behind the scenes anyways!
[12:46] <_StefanS_> cbox: sudo apt-get remove usplash ;)
[12:46] <mel> i see you moving the mouse around
[12:47] <_StefanS_> cbox: or remove the splash
[12:47] <_StefanS_> cbox: from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:47] <cbox> does it matter which one i do
[12:47] <cbox> ?
[12:47] <mel> do you want me to remove the animation
[12:47] <saeed> anybody knows how to make compiz work?
[12:47] <saeed> anybody?
[12:47] <_StefanS_> cbox: well removing usplash is probably easisst
[12:47] <saeed> I am out of ideas
[12:48] <saeed> I tried several sites, used google
[12:48] <_StefanS_> saeed: what gfx card?
[12:48] <saeed> and nothing is working so far
[12:48] <saeed> Intel 915
[12:48] <_StefanS_> hey Jucato
[12:48] <saeed> integrated
[12:48] <saeed> someone said I should change video effects to "aiglx"
[12:48] <saeed> but I couldn't find such entry in my xorg.conf
[12:48] <cbox> ok i just used "sudo apt-get remove usplash"
[12:49] <_StefanS_> cbox: yup
[12:49] <mel> Stefan I am going to email you with a password to login to my system ok..
[12:49] <Jucato> hi _StefanS_
[12:49] <_StefanS_> mel: i cant select anything
[12:49] <_StefanS_> mel: ok, have you install ssh ?
[12:49] <_StefanS_> installed
[12:49] <mel> Can you type anything in
[12:49] <_StefanS_> dont think so
[12:49] <cbox> i'll try loggin in again and see whats happening! thanks stefans
[12:49] <mel> no how do I install SSH
[12:49] <_StefanS_> mel: sudo apt-get install ssh
[12:50] <mel> Ok hold
[12:50] <Jucato> _StefanS_: perhaps openssh-server ?
[12:50] <_StefanS_> Jucato: ssh does the same
[12:50] <cbox> btw, stefans, you aren't canadian are you?
[12:50] <Jucato> ah
[12:50] <saeed> HELLO
[12:50] <_StefanS_> cbox: nawp.. danish bacon my friend
[12:50] <saeed> anyone here KNOWS ANYTHING about compiz-fusion?
[12:50] <mel> Ok it is installed
[12:51] <MacZtttlkwork> I know something, saeed.
[12:51] <Jucato> _StefanS_: ah it's a metapackage
[12:51] <cbox> ok, i know another stefan s. thought i would ask!
[12:51] <saeed> could u PLEASE help
[12:51] <Jucato> !compiz | saeed
[12:51] <ubotu> saeed: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:51] <_StefanS_> Jucato: maybe you should explain saeed in regards to helping
[12:51] <Jucato> !caps | saeed
[12:51] <ubotu> saeed: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:51] <saeed> these SITES do NOT help
[12:51] <Jucato> !patience | saeed
[12:51] <ubotu> saeed: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:51] <saeed> I tried ALL of them
[12:51] <MacZtttlkwork> What's your problem?
[12:51] <_StefanS_> cbox: thats ok
[12:51] <Yammeh> an you recommend a program for burning images?
[12:51] <saeed> I can't get compiz-fusion to work on my laptop
[12:51] <_StefanS_> k3b?
[12:51] <MacZtttlkwork> For me compiz fusion is not working well with Kubuntu. I keep using Beryl and it has no problems.
[12:52] <Jucato> Yammeh: ISO images? k3b
[12:52] <Yammeh> Ta
[12:52] <mel> StefnS if you need to sleep man.. No probs.. I will be here tomorrow at 6pm EST..
[12:52] <MacZtttlkwork> What graphics card are you using?
[12:52] <saeed> does Beryl have the same effects?
[12:52] <saeed> Intel 915, integrated
[12:52] <saeed> a piece of junk
[12:52] <MacZtttlkwork> Not the same but very similar
[12:52] <_StefanS_> saeed: beryl was just the previous version
[12:52] <saeed> but that's all I have
[12:52] <_StefanS_> mel: check the message
[12:52] <mel> brb potty
[12:52] <MacZtttlkwork> the only thing you'll miss.... is some sort of flame... wich is useless
[12:53] <Jucato> _StefanS_: if you don't need to sleep yet, I do... I've been up all night. so I leave the channel to you :P
[12:53] <saeed> I am not going to miss that one
[12:53] <Jucato> (stdin and Tm_T are there anyway)
[12:53] <saeed> does beryl have the switcher?
[12:53] <MacZtttlkwork> Jucato, do they pay you for support? lol
[12:53] <Jucato> MacZtttlkwork: I wish!
[12:53] <MacZtttlkwork> saeed: yes it has.
[12:53] <saeed> the one that looks like MACs or VISTA?
[12:53] <saeed> cool
[12:53] <saeed> how do I install Beryl?
[12:53] <_StefanS_> Jucato: well I need to sleep since my kid needs food around 4-5 oclock
[12:54] <MacZtttlkwork> I think it's quite simple...
[12:54] <saeed> do I need to remove compiz stuff?
[12:54] <Jucato> _StefanS_: good night then.
[12:54] <MacZtttlkwork> if you have the 3d drivers already installed, that's it
[12:54] <saeed> how do I install the 3d drivers?
[12:54] <MacZtttlkwork> No, you can install it and keep the compiz stuff.
[12:54] <saeed> apt-get?
[12:54] <MacZtttlkwork> let's see...
[12:54] <saeed> or adpet?
[12:54] <cbox> stefans, keith, you guys are good!!
[12:54] <saeed> THANKS a million by the way
[12:54] <saeed> I appreciate your help
[12:54] <MacZtttlkwork> the intel 915 has open source drivers wich come with 3d acceleration, doesn't it?
[12:55] <_StefanS_> mel: I'm on your system now
[12:55] <saeed> I think so
[12:55] <MacZtttlkwork> Open adept
[12:55] <jorge_> jejjee
[12:55] <saeed> OK
[12:55] <saeed> I am there
[12:55] <MacZtttlkwork> wait a sec. I'm looking for the package...
[12:55] <keith> Thanks, cbox. So it boots up faster now?
[12:56] <cbox> yeah its super quick! i didnt need a splash screen anyways!
[12:56] <saeed> OK
[12:56] <saeed> Thanks a LOT man
[12:56] <cbox> so do i ask about my other issue, or am i pushing my luck with one solved problem per day??:)
[12:57] <keith> Sweet cbox!  I have no clue why the splash screen was slowing you down, but sometimes we just have to shrug and go to the next thing <LOL>
[12:57] <saeed> beryl search yields nothing
[12:57] <keith> I have time and am willing to try, cbox.
[12:57] <saeed> I think it has to be something else
[12:57] <cbox> ok. it might be easier
[12:57] <_StefanS_> mel: sound seems okay, its not muted and the module is lodad
[12:57] <MacZtttlkwork> saeed
[12:57] <_StefanS_> loaded
[12:57] <twixter> hi, is ScorpKing still here?
[12:58] <MacZtttlkwork> close adept and open "add programs" in the K menu
[12:58] <saeed> MacZtttlkwork: yes?
[12:58] <saeed> OK
[12:58] <saeed> I am there
[12:58] <MacZtttlkwork> the write "beryl" in the search box
[12:58] <MacZtttlkwork> and select the three options that appear
[12:58] <cbox> i have 2x 250GB external HDDs that I have been using on my XP machine. they store pics and movies, and my mp3s and things. and if i am making this Ubuntu box my media centre i need them to be read on it too. problem is when i USB plug them in, ubuntu doesnt recognize them
[12:58] <cbox> it does however recognize my little usb key drive without problem
[12:58] <saeed> MacZtttlkwork: I got nothing
[12:58] <saeed> when I searched both
[12:59] <saeed> adept
[12:59] <MacZtttlkwork> hum.. that must be about the package sources
[12:59] <saeed> which ones should add?
[12:59] <Daisuke-Ido> beryl is deprecated, no longer developed, why get someone using something that is going to remain stagnant rather than compiz-fusion, which is under active development
[12:59] <saeed> Daisuke-Ido: how would u install compiz-fusion?
[01:00] <MacZtttlkwork> ah, wait! Are you using Kubuntu 7.04?
[01:00] <mel> yes I figuered that much
[01:00] <Daisuke-Ido> feisty?
[01:00] <saeed> 10.8
[01:00] <Daisuke-Ido> uh
[01:00] <saeed> release candidate
[01:00] <saeed> gutsy
[01:00] <mel> i been researched it but cou;d not find a fix
[01:00] <Daisuke-Ido> 7.10 rc
[01:00] <Daisuke-Ido> okay
[01:00] <saeed> yep
[01:00] <twixter> hi, I was following instructions ScorpKing gave me to upgrade my kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 and i encountered a problem
[01:00] <saeed> final release is in 3 days
[01:01] <twixter> i would be glad to describe everything i did, if this is the right channel for it
[01:01] <Daisuke-Ido> i have yet to use kde in gutsy, so i have no clue if they've added an applet to turn that on...
[01:01] <MacZtttlkwork> Daisuke-Ido: I was telling him about beryl because he told me that Compiz Fusion wasn't working. And as I am in the same situation, but Beryl does work ...
[01:01] <saeed> No, there's no applet to turn it on
[01:01] <saeed> unless they do it in the final release
[01:01] <Daisuke-Ido> then that's a situation where beryl might be a better idea for now
[01:01] <mel> how do I install beryl I have it...
[01:01] <keith> Had to leave the la-z-boy for a minute, cbox. Reading your messages now...
[01:01] <Daisuke-Ido> carry on
[01:02] <saeed> I can't even get beryl
[01:02] <saeed> I searched for it
[01:02] <saeed> but no luck so far
[01:02] <MacZtttlkwork> but there's a problem. As he's using a newly developed version......it hasn't got the same packages as Feisty
[01:02] <Daisuke-Ido> it may have been removed from gutsy
[01:02] <Daisuke-Ido> in which case, compiz fusion is about the only option
[01:02] <MacZtttlkwork> I guess that as beryl is older they've left it and they care about Compiz Fusion
[01:02] <Daisuke-Ido> MacZtttlkwork: wrong
[01:02] <Daisuke-Ido> beryl forked from compiz
[01:03] <cbox> la-z-boy. sounds like a nice workstation!
[01:03] <Daisuke-Ido> and later on, they re-merged
[01:03] <MacZtttlkwork> yeah... I meant the beryl package, the one I am using now.
[01:03] <saeed> there's NOTHING about beryl
[01:03] <Daisuke-Ido> no, there isn't
[01:03] <saeed> plenty of compiz stuff, but nothing about beryl
[01:03] <MacZtttlkwork> We know, saeed.
[01:03] <saeed> and I enabled ALL repos
[01:03] <Daisuke-Ido> compiz fusion is the only option in gutsy
[01:03] <MacZtttlkwork> If you can wait 4 days for the final release...
[01:03] <mel> StefanS what do you think is wrong with my system?
[01:04] <saeed> you think it will be in the final release?
[01:04] <MacZtttlkwork> then you could have that nice dialog box wich auto-installs compiz fusion hehe
[01:04] <Daisuke-Ido> beryl will not, NO
[01:04] <MacZtttlkwork> but Compiz Fusion will be
[01:04] <MacZtttlkwork> If am not wrong!
[01:04] <Daisuke-Ido> beryl is gone, done, kaput
[01:04] <keith> cbox, first let's see if Linux recognizes the drive as anything at all. Plug it in, and after a few secs check the last lines of /var/log/syslog for messages about /dev/something or USB.
[01:04] <Daisuke-Ido> compiz fusion is already there
[01:04] <MacZtttlkwork> I think that's clear..
[01:04] <Daisuke-Ido> and is installed by default
[01:04] <MacZtttlkwork> but saeed hasn't seen the dialog box.
[01:04] <Daisuke-Ido> there isn't one for kde
[01:04] <MacZtttlkwork> then the problem is about wizards...:-D
[01:05] <MacZtttlkwork> wow
[01:05] <keith> It's easy to check with "tail -25 /var/log/syslog"
[01:05] <keith> That'll show the last 25 lines of the file.
[01:05] <MacZtttlkwork> Is GNOME catching up us? :-(
[01:05] <cbox> keith, check that just using gedit??
[01:05] <saeed> I have installed the beta version of ubuntu
[01:05] <Daisuke-Ido> MacZtttlkwork: gnome is the main DE for ubuntu
[01:05] <Minataku> Heya, MacZtttlkwork
[01:05] <Daisuke-Ido> kde gets things like that later if at all
[01:05] <saeed> there's an option there to switch 3d effects on
[01:05] <keith> cbox, gedit will work too.
[01:05] <Daisuke-Ido> it's been that way for a long time
[01:05] <saeed> but nothing similar has been added to kubuntu
[01:06] <Minataku> Yeah, but GNOME usually screws things up. A lot.
[01:06] <MacZtttlkwork> Hi Minataku
[01:06] <Minataku> I mean, look at GNOME itself.
[01:06] <Daisuke-Ido> as i just said, saeed...
[01:06] <saeed> LOL
[01:06] <Daisuke-Ido> ah crap
[01:06] <Minataku> COMPLETELY screwed up.
[01:06] <Minataku> lol
[01:06] <Daisuke-Ido> enough gnome bashing
[01:06] <MacZtttlkwork> Ok, let's not start a flame war about GNOME.... this is not the place :P
[01:06] <Minataku> Taser the gnome for low rates!
[01:06] <saeed> I am OK with gnome, as long as they add something similar to karamba, I will switch
[01:07] <saeed> in the meantime
[01:07] <saeed> I like my KDE
[01:07] <Daisuke-Ido> it's been there
[01:07] <MacZtttlkwork> The problem was about compiz fusion?
[01:07] <saeed> nope, there's NOTHING vaguely similar to karamba
[01:07] <saeed> i know
[01:07] <MacZtttlkwork> Any clue about how to install it in the new version? I don't have that version so....
[01:07] <Daisuke-Ido> really?
[01:07] <saeed> I am still hoping I ll get it to work
[01:07] <cbox> i do see some USB messages
[01:07] <mel> Does anyone know how to fix my sound remotley..
[01:08] <MacZtttlkwork> any developer or something here that knows if the final release of Kubuntu (with K) will come with any autinstaller for 3d effects?
[01:08] <MacZtttlkwork> because if not this distro is... behind others such as Opensuse or Mandriva :O
[01:08] <Daisuke-Ido> as features have been frozen for a month, no, no it won't.
[01:09] <keith> cbox, any messages that look like a drive, like /dev/sda1, something like that?
[01:09] <Daisuke-Ido> kde is not the main focus of the distro
[01:09] <Minataku> Say, MacZtttlkwork, how was NetBSD?
[01:09] <cbox> New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4b4_6830_DEF106207355_if0_scsi_host_scsi_device_lun0_scsi_generic').
[01:09] <twixter> hello, is this the right channel for discussing problems upgrading kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04?
[01:09] <saeed> I guess I ll have to switch to openSUSE or something
[01:09] <saeed> I LOVE the 3d effects
[01:09] <saeed> too much
[01:09] <cbox> hald: mounted /dev/sdb1 on behalf of uid 1000
[01:10] <cbox> so its mounting, but im not seeing it anywhere??
[01:10] <MacZtttlkwork> I haven't been with that computer still (it's in the residence where I live ...when I am not at home :D)
[01:10] <keith> cbox, perfect!  That's just what we needed.
[01:10] <Minataku> lol
[01:10] <saeed> that's how I can convince an average person that linux is WAY better than vista
[01:10] <MacZtttlkwork> twixter this is the right channel
[01:10] <cbox> wait a minute! i just checked again, and it was there!
[01:10] <Minataku> Feh... ol' "Joe D. Average"
[01:10] <cbox> what the hell? why all of a sudden??
[01:10] <Minataku> The D stands for DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr
[01:10] <MacZtttlkwork> saeed... if KDE is not the main focus of the distro... guess we both should be changing!
[01:10] <MacZtttlkwork> lol
[01:11] <MacZtttlkwork> Well.... i'll stick with it for the meantime
[01:11] <keith> cbox, same reason your car engine suddenly starts running smoothly when you take it to the mechanic :)
[01:11] <Daisuke-Ido> saeed: gdesklets
[01:11] <Daisuke-Ido> desktop widgets for gnome.
[01:11] <twixter> MacZ: I have already discussed this with ScorpKing who appears to have left. Update manager tells me "file:/usr/local/mydebs/./Packages.gz: File not found'
[01:11] <mel> My sound is not working with my Toshiba P105 S9312 Laptop. Does anyone know of any fix for this?
[01:11] <cbox> keith, you are the man!
[01:11] <twixter> macZ: ScorpKing gave me a remedy but I encountered a problem
[01:12] <twixter> macZ: I would like to describe to you everything I did
[01:12] <MacZtttlkwork> twixter: I'm not an expert... let's see if anyone here has any idea
[01:12] <MacZtttlkwork> (I always do fresh installs.., sorry)
[01:12] <keith> cbox, sometimes it'll see a drive okay, but it doesn't get auto-mounted. I don't know why. That's probably what happend before. Thanks for the compliment. I enjoy helping out :)
[01:13] <twixter> macZ i can wait until tomorrow night, ScorpKing said he would be back then.
[01:13] <MacZtttlkwork> ok! sorry I couldn't help you :(
[01:13] <saeed> gdesklets are a JOKE
[01:13] <cbox> you're definately good people. ok, im going to watch hockey. Go Leafs Go!
[01:13] <twixter> ok thanks anyway
[01:13] <saeed> have you ever tried them?
[01:13] <Daisuke-Ido> so don't use them
[01:13] <saeed> Daisuke-Ido: have u ever tried gdesklets?
[01:13] <MacZtttlkwork> gdesklets... let me search for that :D
[01:14] <MacZtttlkwork> there's something for gnome...
[01:14] <saeed> nothing compared to superkaramb stuffa
[01:14] <Daisuke-Ido> you asked for an alternative, i gave you one, i for one don't care if you like them or not, they're there.
[01:14] <saeed> LOL
[01:14] <saeed> I understand
[01:14] <MacZtttlkwork> it's called kiba-dock
[01:14] <Daisuke-Ido> don't claim there's no alternative :)
[01:14] <MacZtttlkwork> it's like the dock of mac if you like that stuff
[01:14] <saeed> kiba-dock is AMAZING
[01:14] <saeed> I tried it
[01:14] <saeed> it's definitely cool
[01:14] <Daisuke-Ido> MacZtttlkwork: avant-window-navigator > kiba
[01:14] <saeed> awm
[01:15] <Daisuke-Ido> (well, if you value function over form)
[01:15] <MacZtttlkwork> I have played with it but nothing serious... no wedding or else hehe
[01:15] <MacZtttlkwork> wow I think the next version of Amarok for KDE 4 will have 3d effects (CD covers presentation)
[01:16] <Daisuke-Ido> and it's also being ported to windows
[01:16] <MacZtttlkwork> saeed: so you tried the "how to"'s and.... they didn't worked for you?
[01:16] <saeed> nothing worked for real
[01:16] <MacZtttlkwork> Daisuke-Ido: many parts of KDE are being ported, arent' they?
[01:17] <saeed> I have dolphin in place of konqueror
[01:17] <MacZtttlkwork> your graphics card was listed as supported?
[01:17] <saeed> but I don't see much of a difference
[01:17] <Daisuke-Ido> MacZtttlkwork: it's not that many parts are being ported, it's that they can be now, since qt is gpl'd on all platforms rather than just linux
[01:17] <Dragnslcr> I think KDE4 itself will run on Windows
[01:17] <saeed> yes
[01:17] <saeed> cool
[01:17] <MacZtttlkwork> (excuse me if I make many grammar mistakes... I'm not a native English speaker :-o)
[01:17] <Daisuke-Ido> Dragnslcr: exactly
[01:17] <saeed> having KDE on windows will be so much fun
[01:17] <Dragnslcr> Dunno exactly how, but it'll be interesting to see
[01:17] <atlfalcons866> how do i get beagle to work
[01:18] <Daisuke-Ido> having kde on windows will break down the barrier to entry for linux
[01:18] <Dragnslcr> Not sure if I could convince the guys at work to let me try it on my computer
[01:18] <saeed> you don't need beagle
[01:18] <atlfalcons866> why
[01:18] <blendtux> i have got a strange problem, i rebooted and now my resolution is wrong, its says its doing 1024x768 but it seems that my desktop is now bigger then my fysical screen
[01:18] <MacZtttlkwork> It will be like that program "Talisman" well.. I'm talking about shareware from the 90's hehe
[01:18] <saeed> use strigi
[01:18] <saeed> it should be in the gutsy repos
[01:18] <atlfalcons866> strgi dosent index .ogg
[01:18] <saeed> it does the same thing
[01:18] <saeed> and it's open source
[01:18] <Daisuke-Ido> "well, i have amarok, firefox, thunderbird, and dolphin here...  it's also over there on that linux machine."
[01:18] <blendtux> how can i reconfigure my x so that i have the right resolution back
[01:18] <Daisuke-Ido> no barrier, they can pick up and go
[01:19] <atlfalcons866> can stirgi index .ogg
[01:19] <MacZtttlkwork> Yes,... In enterprise environments they can use both Linux and Windows but both of them using KDE so the employees won't feel much difference and so. It'd be cool.
[01:20] <Daisuke-Ido> possibly, it will start to break the stranglehold microsoft has on businesses
[01:20] <MacZtttlkwork> blendtux: did you modified anything in the X?
[01:20] <blendtux> nope
[01:21] <saeed> I think more stuff cross-compiled so that it runs on *nix and M$ will help more people switch to open source stuff
[01:21] <saeed> especially companies
[01:21] <saeed> when they see the quality of open source software
[01:21] <Yammeh> Anyone know a decent ftp client?
[01:21] <atlfalcons866> is kde4 in gutsy
[01:21] <saeed> not all of it
[01:21] <saeed> just some apps
[01:21] <saeed> dolphin, strigi, and some games
[01:21] <MacZtttlkwork> Yes I think so... but it could be the same in the other way! LOL    Going back to windows because they have their lovely KDE..
[01:22] <hitmanWilly> Yammeh: uhhh, konqueror?
[01:22] <CPrompt^> Yammeh : Filezila
[01:22] <saeed> solitaire (patience), mahjong and a couple of other ones
[01:22] <Yammeh> Doesnt allow me to save ftps, does it?
[01:22] <MacZtttlkwork> Konqueror rules
[01:22] <saeed> konqueror is being phased out
[01:22] <saeed> and dolphin is replacing it
[01:22] <MacZtttlkwork> Bad things always rise....
[01:22] <saeed> LOL
[01:22] <saeed> not always
[01:22] <hitmanWilly> dolphin does web?
[01:22] <MacZtttlkwork> I have tried it
[01:23] <saeed> yep
[01:23] <MacZtttlkwork> and it...sucks!
[01:23] <saeed> it works fine
[01:23] <MacZtttlkwork> Konqueror works fine too
[01:23] <saeed> plasmoids are a big thing in kde4
[01:23] <MacZtttlkwork> but it's even better, so I don't see the point for replacing it
[01:23] <saeed> they will replace karamba widgets
[01:23] <MacZtttlkwork> saeed. what's the difference between karamba and superkaramba?
[01:24] <saeed> nothing
[01:24] <saeed> it's the same thing
[01:24] <saeed> one is newer (super)
[01:24] <blendtux> so MacZtttlkwork what should i do
[01:24] <hitmanWilly> does it have the capability to do moz plugins as well, or is it like konq where you need a seperate plugin app?
[01:24] <MacZtttlkwork> blendtux
[01:24] <saeed> I have no idea as to dophin capabilities
[01:24] <MacZtttlkwork> open the k menu and go to
[01:24] <saeed> but it looks and feels like konqueror
[01:24] <MacZtttlkwork> system settings
[01:24] <MacZtttlkwork> then to screen
[01:25] <MacZtttlkwork> and try to change the resolution to any other and see what happens
[01:25] <hitmanWilly> that's about the only issue i have with konq, esp on 64 bit systems
[01:25] <saeed> the only difference is a panel to the right, giving you more info about what you re opening
[01:25] <blendtux> it stays the same MacZtttlkwork
[01:25] <saeed> and another panel to the left
[01:25] <blendtux> brb MacZtttlkwork
[01:25] <saeed> with icons
[01:26] <saeed> u can single click to switch stuff
[01:26] <saeed> just like Mac OS X
[01:26] <saeed> but simpler
[01:26] <MacZtttlkwork> saeed: I have dolphin installed and it is not internet capable
[01:26] <saeed> it is
[01:26] <MacZtttlkwork> blendtux
[01:26] <MacZtttlkwork> I am looking for a way to reconfigure xorg
[01:26] <saeed> I use it everytime I click on a link here
[01:26] <Daisuke-Ido> simpler than a mac doesn't exist.
[01:26] <saeed> for example on pastebin links
[01:26] <CPrompt^> MacZtttlkwork : dolphin is a file manager only from what I know.  it isn't to replace Konq
[01:26] <saeed> it kicks automatically on my system
[01:27] <noktirnal> new to kubuntu, trying to get wireless lan to work, can anyone help?
[01:27] <Daisuke-Ido> !dolphin
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dolphin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <saeed> anyway
[01:27] <Daisuke-Ido> meh
[01:27] <Daisuke-Ido> but yeah, it's just a file manager
[01:27] <saeed> I thinkI ll try openSUSE to get the compiz working
[01:27] <saeed> thanks all
[01:27] <saeed> and have a good night
[01:27] <Daisuke-Ido> well if you'd just run compiz --replace
[01:27] <Daisuke-Ido> there might be a shot
[01:27] <MacZtttlkwork> If windows has explorer with the web browsing and file manager integrated...why should we separate the file manager from the navigator?
[01:27] <saeed> I tried
[01:27] <saeed> but very few effects work
[01:28] <Daisuke-Ido> so install the settings manager
[01:28] <MacZtttlkwork> saeed: bye
[01:28] <saeed> take care guys
[01:28] <ChaosMachine> When gutsy comes out, will there be a way I can just upgrade while keeping all of my personal files? or will I have to do a fresh install?
[01:28] <MacZtttlkwork> wow
[01:28] <Daisuke-Ido> ChaosMachine: upgrade works well
[01:28] <MacZtttlkwork> but does it work?
[01:28] <Daisuke-Ido> yes
[01:28] <CPrompt^> more on Dolphine : http://enzosworld.gmxhome.de/
[01:28] <noktirnal> compiz is buggy check out sambayon
[01:28] <MacZtttlkwork> perhaps you didn't installed the plugins or something lol
[01:28] <jackuess> hi you guys
[01:28] <saeed> trust me
[01:28] <jackuess> i have somewhat of a sittuation
[01:28] <ChaosMachine> Daisuke-Ido, ah :) in a nutshell how do I do that? (a website, or command?)
[01:28] <saeed> I install every DARN package I could get my hands on
[01:28] <jackuess> im trying to upgrade to gutsy
[01:28] <Daisuke-Ido> saeed: trust me: if it messed up, you did it.
[01:28] <MacZtttlkwork> Ok, anyway remember that you are using a RC... not a final version.
[01:29] <Daisuke-Ido> compiz --replace ccp
[01:29] <saeed> LOL
[01:29] <saeed> indeed
[01:29] <keith> noktimal, check out the last post in this thread. It's the advice I've been handing out for wireless. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=576875
[01:29] <jackuess> ut the upgrade-manager hung up on me
[01:29] <Daisuke-Ido> ChaosMachine: adept-manager should give you the option to upgrade
[01:29] <noktirnal> thanx will check it out
[01:29] <Dragnslcr> ChaosMachine- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3cb12417f0af7f24d4a34f2ae4040bf791c42f52
[01:29] <Daisuke-Ido> and just for the record!
[01:30] <Daisuke-Ido> sabayon linux is based on gentoo, and (get this) uses compiz!
[01:30] <jackuess> and now i can't start it again
[01:30] <Daisuke-Ido> your advice therefore made no sense.
[01:30] <MacZtttlkwork> I think that when blendtux had come back........ this is the command he should type to reconfigure the Xorg sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[01:30] <MacZtttlkwork> is the command right?
[01:30] <ChaosMachine> Dragnslcr, Daisuke-Ido okay thank you both.
[01:31] <Daisuke-Ido> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:31] <Daisuke-Ido> but very very close
 <arguments> <target>
[01:31] <MacZtttlkwork> ok
[01:32] <blendtux> what does the -phigh flag does MacZtttlkwork
[01:32] <Daisuke-Ido> priority: high
[01:32] <DaSkreech> !gutsy | jackuess
[01:32] <ubotu> jackuess: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[01:32] <Daisuke-Ido> driver and resolution
[01:32] <jackuess> oki thx
[01:32] <MacZtttlkwork> it will all be automatic I think ... or I hope
[01:32] <MacZtttlkwork> lol
[01:33] <blendtux> does it need to read an old xorg.conf or does it create a new one
[01:33] <Daisuke-Ido> it will just use the one you have
[01:33] <Daisuke-Ido> it will ask what driver, what resolutions you want available, and i think what extensions
[01:33] <MacZtttlkwork> and hopefully you will get  your screen back to the normal situation
[01:34] <blendtux> oke
[01:34] <MacZtttlkwork> remember to have your screen specs by the way!
[01:34] <searayman> can i have help gettign to try kde 4 beta on kubuntu?
[01:34] <MacZtttlkwork> I think it asked you for some information about it
[01:35] <MacZtttlkwork> searayman: I believe there's a package made for that purpose
[01:35] <MacZtttlkwork> search for kde4 in adept
[01:35] <searayman> MacZtttlkwork: i am having trouble tryiing to follow instructiosn found here, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[01:36] <Dragnslcr> searayman- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[01:36] <blendtux> brb
[01:36] <kobol> I've been trying to create a desktop shortcut to my Windows harddrive, but every time I do I get an error whenever I open it.
[01:37] <searayman> Dragnslcr: i am having trouble followign that, i have done the 3rd bullet then the 4th says run some programs... what does that mean? how do i run plasma?
[01:37] <kobol> The error says...mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is already mounted on /media/hda1 mount failed.
[01:37] <kobol> Any ideas?
[01:38] <awag> hi i just installed 7.10 and the "search for files" button seems to be missing from the main menu
[01:38] <MacZtttlkwork> i have never tried kde4 .... isn't there a k menu or something?
[01:38] <MacZtttlkwork> try to use the combination for the "execute command" dialog box
[01:38] <Daisuke-Ido> kobol: then umount it and remount it
[01:39] <kobol> Daisuke-Ido: so umount /dev/hda1 and then mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1?
[01:39] <MacZtttlkwork> searayman: try to open konsole
[01:39] <Daisuke-Ido> i assume /dev/hda1 is your windows drive?
[01:40] <Daisuke-Ido> nevermind
[01:40] <Daisuke-Ido> yeah, i would give that a shot, see what happens
[01:40] <searayman> MacZtttlkwork: ok its open now what?
[01:40] <kobol> Daisuke-Ido: Yes, it is, and going for it now :)
[01:40] <MacZtttlkwork> now type... the name of some kde4 programm
[01:40] <MacZtttlkwork> like a KDE game if you installed those
[01:41] <noktirnal> that doesn't apply
[01:41] <noktirnal> broadcom pci wlan
[01:41] <MacZtttlkwork> anyway I think that the version you're using is very "alpha" if it's the one that comes with Feisty.
[01:41] <noktirnal> i think i need to use ndiswrapper
[01:41] <searayman> MacZtttlkwork: i am using gutsy
[01:42] <noktirnal> that's how it worked w/ opensuse, any idea on how it might work w/ kubuntu?
[01:42] <MacZtttlkwork> ah! try amarok and see if it's compilled for kde4
[01:42] <DaSkreech> searayman: A better newer beta is out this week
[01:42] <searayman> DaSkreech: but how do i get this one working?
[01:43] <MacZtttlkwork> niktirnal: if you needed ndiswrapper I guess you'll need it again for kubuntu
[01:43] <kobol> Daisuke-Ido: Same thing :(
[01:43] <kobol> Daisuke-Ido: Should I just mount it to some place like /mnt/hda1?
[01:43] <MacZtttlkwork> nokrtirnal *
[01:44] <searayman> anyone know how to get kde 4 beta workign on kubuntu?
[01:45] <Daisuke-Ido> kobol: no idea
[01:46] <MacZtttlkwork> well people enough talking for today. See you!
[01:49] <noktirnal> is it a package DL?
[01:51] <Airforce55555> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFasbmaUfQw
[01:52] <kobol> Daisuke-Ido: I know there's a way to give myself access to my drive via Konqueror, something like sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ugroup=0022 or something? Do you know what I'm talking about?
[01:53] <Daisuke-Ido> not entirely sure, no
[01:53] <heinkel_111> Hi, i am using Feisty and I have a problem with X locking up very often, especially when running 64 bit kubuntu. Is as module called "wfb" of any importance? In my system log it comes out with an error, module does not exist
[01:54] <DaSkreech> kobol: umask
[01:54] <kobol> DaSkreech: Oh thanks :)
[01:54] <heinkel_111> eh... boot log does not exist, is that kinda sign something may be wrong?
[01:56] <kobol> DaSkreech: Just gave me a big list of commands, as if what I put in doesn't work? I just tried sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 umask=0022 was that not the right syntax?
[01:56] <DaSkreech> kobol: -o umask =0022
[01:57] <kobol> DaSkreech: Will it be there when I login, reboot etc now?
[01:59] <DaSkreech> no
[01:59] <DaSkreech> !fstab | kobol
[01:59] <ubotu> kobol: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[02:00] <ElecNinja> !partitions | kobol
[02:00] <ubotu> kobol: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:00] <ElecNinja> !swap | kobol
[02:00] <ubotu> kobol: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[02:07] <LjL> nazi-ubuntu: i wouldn't mind if you changed that nickname, please
[02:07] <Tm_T> I second that
[02:07] <nazi-ubuntu> ok,era uno scherzo :)
[02:08] <LjL> azzimiei: we only understand english here :)
[02:08] <ElecNinja> Spanish. Interesting.
[02:08] <azzimiei> escuse  my
[02:10] <freeport> I'm using FF and can't find the commercial repository.  I'm trying to install realpayer and can't find it with adept.
[02:10] <DaSkreech> !commercial
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about commercial - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <DaSkreech> Grr
[02:11] <NickPresta> !realplayer
[02:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:11] <DaSkreech> !opera
[02:11] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[02:11] <freeport> I read in the ubunto documentation that the real was in the comercial
[02:11] <ElecNinja> Wait, isn't it supposed to be as in beer?
[02:11] <DaSkreech> freeport: It is but the above documentation is just as good
[02:12] <freeport> thanks guys
[02:14] <el-lectron> hi
[02:14] <el-lectron> help
[02:14] <el-lectron> how can I erase the WEP3 password?
[02:14] <DaSkreech> !help
[02:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:14] <el-lectron> I entered the wrong one
[02:14] <DaSkreech> el-lectron: it should reask you then
[02:15] <el-lectron> DaSkreech: it isnt doing it
[02:16] <ElecNinja> el-lectron: Try lookiing in the Network Manager.
[02:17] <DaSkreech> ElecNinja: Right Click Kneworkmanager -> options -> Configure -> Wireless Networks -> trusted networks -> remove
[02:17] <el-lectron> DaSkreech: ha ok
[02:17] <ElecNinja> <.<
[02:18] <el-lectron> is not doing in it :(
[02:18] <el-lectron> Kubuntu is a failure
[02:19] <ElecNinja> For you maybe? But did you try and select your network again to reconnect and see what happens?
[02:19] <DaSkreech> !wifi | el-lectron
[02:19] <ubotu> el-lectron: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:21] <letalis> kubuntu is a failure?
[02:21] <letalis> how so?
[02:21] <weswh-> i am trying to find the nvidia driver setup GUI (where you size and position the screens), I remember it being something I had to launch from terminal
[02:21] <weswh-> now that I think about it - does anyone know? something like sudo nvidia-config
[02:22] <DaSkreech> letalis: don't feed trolls :)
[02:22] <el-lectron> letalis: because is not working?
[02:23] <letalis> its workign for me.
[02:23] <el-lectron> DaSkreech: the networks are removed
[02:23] <letalis> mines special. i modified it myself
[02:23] <letalis> lol
[02:23] <el-lectron> letalis: may you using crappy WEP security
[02:24] <ElecNinja> !nvidia | weswh
[02:24] <ubotu> weswh: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:25] <Tm_T> nope
[02:25] <julian> How to switch back & forth?
[02:25] <ElecNinja> In the log in screen
[02:25] <letalis> actualy its wpa
[02:25] <Tm_T> julian: chooce when login
[02:25] <Tm_T> se
[02:25] <julian> super. thanks!
[02:25] <Tm_T> bah
[02:25] <ElecNinja> When you have the session type, you can choose there.
[02:25] <ElecNinja> Where*
[02:26] <letalis> but the comps on this networked are also locked by mac address. even if they did break in, if they arent in the list they get the boot.
[02:26] <letalis> id say its pretty secure.
[02:29] <el-lectron> why did you give this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs where I gotta look all over open a thousad tabs when this is Kubuntu channel? I could've save a lot of time if I was given this link directly https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu
[02:31] <el-lectron> OMG my specific card has to be WPA2 compatible now??!! :-(
[02:32] <kobol> DaSkreech: Tried to install subversion but got "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" Any ideas?
[02:32] <DaSkreech> kobol: You have adept open ?
[02:33] <ekrengel> yeah you must have it open somewhere
[02:33] <letalis> el-lectron: do you knwo what the chipset for your card is?
[02:36] <el-lectron> where on earth is KWallet? I think is stored in there
[02:37] <Angelus> guys , when can  i report a bug on gutsy?
[02:37] <ekrengel> where is the kdm theme folder located?
[02:37] <el-lectron> letalis: zydas zd1211
[02:38] <ElecNinja> Angelus: Most likely on the Gutsy Help area. Or nowhere.
[02:39] <kobol> DaSkreech, That was the problem hehe, thanks.
[02:40] <kobol> DaSkreech, mind if I bug you once more for something?
[02:41] <el-lectron> it doesn't look the shitty driver has WEP2
[02:41] <el-lectron> :(
[02:41] <el-lectron> anyways shouldn't Kubuntu TELL YOU WEP3 isn't supported instead of wasting my time??
[02:42] <el-lectron> oh ok the dialogue appeared again
[02:44] <Daisuke-Ido> !language | el-lectron
[02:44] <ubotu> el-lectron: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:44] <Daisuke-Ido> !coc | el-lectron
[02:44] <ubotu> el-lectron: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:44] <el-lectron> amusing... @_@ outta all my dire issues the only thing you care is about that?
[02:47] <el-lectron> why isn't telling me something like ERROR PASSWORD INCORRECT
[02:47] <el-lectron> or smething I can troubleshoot?
[02:48] <el-lectron> I think kubuntu wireless has severe issues to improve
[02:49] <Airforce55555> i dont
[02:49] <Airforce55555> i got my wireless working in 30 minutes
[02:49] <Airforce55555> with 2 commands :D
[02:49] <Airforce55555> and i have a broadcom wireless card
[02:50] <el-lectron> Airforce55555: I do that in even less time without security
[02:50] <el-lectron> Even A Caveman Can Do It
[02:50] <el-lectron> I am talking about encryption here
[02:50] <Airforce55555> oh :P
[02:50] <Daisuke-Ido> el-lectron: if you don't have a decent attitude, your problem doesn't mean much :)  that being said, no, i don't think it supports wpa3 (i wasn't aware wpa3 even existed yet)
[02:51] <el-lectron> oh now is my attitude. Why can't you admit this is something kubuntu needs to improve?
[02:52] <el-lectron> help!
[02:52] <el-lectron> I don't have cash to buy Vista, I am stuck with Kubuntu :(
[02:54] <DaSkreech> kobol: whats up?
[02:54] <Yammeh> el-lectron, don't use wireless.. problem solved
[02:54] <el-lectron> is this WPA2? WEP64/128/256, WPA-PSK
[02:55] <cash> el-lectron you can download key for Vista -free)))
[02:55] <el-lectron> that's what the chipset says suppoert
[02:55] <DaSkreech> el-lectron: It does have issues. If you like you can help out
[02:55] <fignew> el-lectron: who's forcing you to use kubuntu?
[02:56] <el-lectron> I am not rich, that's why
[02:56] <kobol> DaSkreech: I actually figured it out, so no sweat :)
[02:56] <el-lectron> anbody? WEP64/128/256, WPA-PSK = WPA2 ??
[02:56] <Yammeh> el-lectron, it's not that much for a copy of vista
[02:56] <fignew> what does that mean?
[02:56] <DaSkreech> el-lectron: what?
[02:57] <Yammeh> He's just stating encryption algorithms for wireless I think
[03:00] <el-lectron> forget about it ... I am going back to gentoo
[03:00] <fignew> isn't choice wonderful?
[03:01] <DaSkreech> :-)
[03:02] <ardchoille> el-lectron: Don't let it beat you.
[03:17] <dsmith__> anyone do an update from 7.04 to 7.10?
[03:17] <stdin> dsmith__: lots of people in #ubuntu+1 have
[03:19] <dsmith__> ok... i am going to try it again since it mentions broadcomm support
[03:19] <dsmith__> however, I am doing a backup beforehand
[03:19] <dsmith__> :)
[03:19] <dsmith__> thx
[03:19] <DaSkreech> Good man
[03:19] <stdin> backups are always a good idea :)
[03:19] <DaSkreech> dsmith__: read the upgrade notices first
[03:20] <dsmith__> i will later this week
[03:22] <keith> Glad I was taking a break while el-lectron was here. What a jerk!
[03:25] <DaSkreech> keith: Alright don't feed trolls after they are gone either
[03:25] <keith> :)  Wouldn't have said it while he was here...and I'll behave now.
[03:26] <keith> Incidentally, for anyone else who was wondering about his question, all he had to do was type "wpa-psk" into Google. It took me right to a Wikipedia page with the answer.
[03:29] <dsmith__> hmmmmm
[03:34] <tony_> I need help with DVD and wmv playback please.
[03:35] <DaSkreech> !dvd | tony_
[03:35] <ubotu> tony_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:35] <DaSkreech> !w32codecs | tony_
[03:35] <ubotu> tony_: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[03:37] <kobol> DaSkreech: Hey, I have a friend of mine who needs 1680x1024 on Kubuntu, and I can't exactly remember how to go about doing it other than the xorg reconfigure, should I just have him do that? I was in here yesterday and someone named kristjan_ told me about doing it another way, but it was a long, involved process I can't remember :S
[03:37] <osirisBNC> hi i have a netgear WG311 PCI adapter wireless card
[03:37] <osirisBNC> how can i get it to work on kubuntu
[03:38] <osirisBNC> the latest versoin
[03:38] <osirisBNC> version ???
[03:38] <DaSkreech> kobol: It wasn't a long involved process you added a line to a file :)
[03:38] <DaSkreech> kobol: if it makes it easier for the both of you the reconfigure works
[03:38] <osirisBNC> anyone please?
[03:39] <DaSkreech> !wifi | osirisBNC
[03:39] <ubotu> osirisBNC: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:39] <kobol> DaSkreech, well it was like some command in the terminal that showed exactly what needs to be put there and such? Do you know the command?
[03:39] <DaSkreech> erm.. I know the file
[03:40] <DaSkreech> kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:40] <kobol> No no, it was like...gtfx or some such, that gave a read out, and all I had to do was copy and paste what it said into xorg.conf
[03:41] <DaSkreech> ah then no I don't :)
[03:44] <kobol> DaSkreech: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it is then! XD
[03:44] <DaSkreech> :-)
[03:49] <unaffiliate> Hello friends
[03:49] <DaSkreech> !hi
[03:50] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:50] <DaSkreech> hi nikkiana
[03:50] <lee_> wer in creation is the restricted drivers at?
[03:51] <lee_> and how di i get per missions to ren my ati script?
[03:51] <stdin> !ati
[03:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:54] <lee_> i mean litteraly wheres my restricted card icon at?
[03:55] <lee_> i mean litteraly wheres my restricted card icon at?
[03:55] <lee_> in fiesty? of kunbuntu
[03:56] <stdin> have you looked at the guide?
[03:57] <chucky> ......
[03:59] <halycon> hey everyone
[04:03] <halycon> I am attempting to find out what the device identification is for my ATI Remote Wonder, I used the lsusb command and it provided this information Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0bc7:0004 X10 Wireless Technology, Inc. X10 Receiver
[04:03] <halycon> but im trying to configure the XMMS IRMan Configuration and it is asking for the Device and the IR Code Length
[04:04] <halycon> can anyone help me out?
[04:06] <bwayne> whenever I create,copy, or edit a file a backup is also created.  How can I stop this from happening?
[04:07] <jmichaelx> is there such a thing as a usb soundcard that works well (or at all) under linux?
[04:08] <bwayne> never heard of a usb soundcard.  USB MIDI, perhaps.
[04:10] <Kein> D=
[04:11] <Kein> Why did Compiz pretty much all but explode the kde window manager?
[04:11] <yoopernate2004> so is it easier to switch to kde from gnome or should i just do a complete reinstall if i'm worried about the aps and things like that?
[04:12] <stdin> yoopernate2004: you just install "kubuntu-desktop" to get KDE, then follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE if you want to remove all Gnome parts
[04:12] <yoopernate2004> thanks
[04:12] <stdin> Kein: compiz replaced the kde window manager, so it's all compiz there
[04:13] <Kein> argh
[04:13] <Kein> well
[04:13] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[04:13] <Kein> that sucks ;_;
[04:13] <Kein> my comp is slooooooooow
[04:13] <Kein> and it took a performance hit after installing compiz
[04:14] <bwayne> Kein: what are your comp's specs?
[04:14] <tekstacy> How do I go about backing up the entire system?   I tried to tell keep to backup / but that didn't work.
[04:14] <Kein> 1.46 ghz processor, radeon xpress X200M for a graphics card, somewhere around 896 MB of RAM, I think
[04:15] <yoopernate2004> do you have direct rendering enabled on your graphics card?
[04:15] <heinkel_111> is the bootlog turned off by default in kubuntu feisty?
[04:15] <kobol> DaSkreech: Any ideas about this one? O_O Fixed his resolution, to 1600x1024, and now he says everything is fuzzy and he can't read it? He could see it fine on Windows mind you.
[04:16] <bwayne> tekstacy: when I want to backup *everything*, I boot into a LiveCD or another partition and then tar.bz2 /*.  Though, really, tarring /* like that really isnt' necessary.
[04:17] <tekstacy> bwayne, thanks, I'll try that
[04:17] <yoopernate2004> easiest way to back up everything that i've found is tar -cvjpf backup.tar.bz2 --exclude=/proc --exclude=/sys --exclude=/var --exclude=/dev
[04:18] <yoopernate2004> then add another --exclude and add the file name
[04:18] <compilerwriter> I am trying to do an rc upgrade to gutsy and am not having much luck.  I can't seem to put my finger on what I am doing wrong.
[04:19] <yoopernate2004> what is it telling you?
[04:21] <compilerwriter> I have tried to enable the pre-release in adept-manager and then do the stuff that the website reccomended, but I never seem to get to the version upgrade part of things.
[04:21] <ubuntu> odnt send a link as I am relaoding
[04:22] <ubuntu> erg its me lee lol
[04:22] <yoopernate2004> huh
[04:23] <yoopernate2004> anyone happen to know if the kubuntu desktop i'm loading is the gutsy one?....or even how i could find out
[04:23] <Jucato> yoopernate2004: "lsb_release -a"
[04:25] <compilerwriter> Jucato can you help me step through the rc update to gutsy please I am doing something wrong or missing something and I am getting a wee bit frazzled.
[04:25] <Jucato> compilerwriter: enable recommended and pre-released updates. Fetch Updates, Full Upgrade Apply Changes.
[04:25] <Jucato> then close Adept, then Alt+F2, and enter: kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"
[04:27] <DaSkreech> kobol: maybe he needs sharper fonts
[04:29] <compilerwriter> Now I am getting somewhere Jucato.  I must have mistyped something in the command.  It worked when cut and pasted yours.
[04:30] <kobol> DaSkreech: Well he says he's got it, just lowered the resolution a bit, and he can see.
[04:30] <Darkrift412> I got a digital concepts cr-70r multi card reader and linux doesnt seem to find it in lsusb, anyone know what i could do to get it working?
[04:30] <DaSkreech> kobol: Ok :)
[04:31] <Darkrift412> also, witbh it plugged in, lsusb takes like 45 seconds
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> Darkrift412 its a usb ca4rd reader?
[04:31] <Darkrift412> yes
[04:31] <Darkrift412> multi card reader
[04:31] <Darkrift412> has 4 slots
[04:31] <compilerwriter> Jucato I got something about "could not verify the integrity of the update apllication now exiting"
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> thats odd..  Not heard of any issues with those befor.
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> now i have seen issues with internal Laptop card readers.. but never external usb ones.
[04:32] <Darkrift412> yeah, my internal ones dont work, so i got this one
[04:32] <yoopernate2004> you tried the reader in windows by any chance?
[04:32] <Darkrift412> i dont have windows :(
[04:32] <yoopernate2004> maybe you just got a bum reader?  not likely but possible
[04:32] <Darkrift412> only place would be at work, and dont think i can get away with that
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> try a gutsy live cd - would be a good test also.
[04:33] <Darkrift412> yeah, i thought about that
[04:33] <Darkrift412> i wish i had an ide to cf adapter
[04:33] <yoopernate2004> hehe...anyone else happen to see that microsoft and best buy are being sued?
[04:33] <Darkrift412> i have a nice external usb drive enclosure that would work if i did
[04:33] <Darkrift412> no, for what?
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> MS being sued is a daily thing.
[04:34] <Darkrift412> yeah
[04:34] <yoopernate2004> racketeering
[04:34] <DaSkreech> compilerwriter: you did a full upgrade ?
[04:38] <compilerwriter> yes DaSkreech
[04:38] <DaSkreech> compilerwriter: and then the adept_manager --version-upgrade gives you a new button ?
[04:38] <kobol> Anyone know why in Adept "Macromedia Flash Player" is greyed out?
[04:38] <compilerwriter> Yes.
[04:39] <letalis> is there a way to 'burn' an iso file to a usb flash drive?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> ok then what happens?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> letalis: sure why not
[04:40] <letalis> the only reason i ask is that you cant use k3b to do it so it must be another way
[04:40] <letalis> im just curoius of how it can be accomplished
[04:41] <compilerwriter> DaSkreech I attempted a version upgrade and then the blasted thing said it couldn't verify something and exited.  I tried again and then it said it was downloading and verifying the upgrade tool.
[04:41] <DaSkreech> Right
[04:42] <compilerwriter> I cancelled that to make sure that I had done the full upgrade thing when you asked and now I am back to the adept thingy.
[04:49] <holyguyver> what do I type in fstab to make it always mount & umount a drive in sudo?
[04:50] <holyguyver> ardchoille, do you know?
[04:50] <kobol> DaSkreech: Do you happen to know why some packages on Adept are grayed out?
[04:50] <kobol> DaSkreech: Such as Wine, or Flash Player?
[04:51] <DaSkreech> !fstab | holyguyver
[04:51] <ubotu> holyguyver: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:52] <greencookie> sup ya'll
[04:52] <greencookie> I'm a newbie to linux and had a question. It doesnt let my screen go beyond 800X600 how can I change it?
[04:53] <holyguyver> well ubotu,, I am tryiong to go there, but my computer is a bit confused right now for I am on a kubuntu running the xcfe gui so konqueror keeps crashing when I try to open it :-p
[04:54] <melody> Evening
[04:55] <greencookie> oh holyguyver do u have another computer u could use to access  http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html ?
[04:55] <greencookie> Evening melody
[04:55] <sub[t] rnl> !Resolution | greencookie
[04:55] <ubotu> greencookie: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:56] <holyguyver> naw, I finally got it to work greencookie :-p
[04:56] <greencookie> awesome holyguyver. now if only I could get my video card to work as it should on my box.
[04:56] <greencookie> sub[t] rnl:  I think its problem with my video card..
[04:57] <holyguyver> no I didn't get that to work, I got konqueror to disply the page, that si what I got to work
[04:57] <greencookie> Lol.. at least you're one step ahead now ;)
[04:57] <greencookie> !amarok
[04:57] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[04:57] <holyguyver> not really for it is already under user & it is acting like as if under nouser
[04:57] <greencookie> ah
[04:58] <greencookie> Can someone help me with my video card driver?
[04:58] <greencookie> and my internet wireless adapter driver.
[04:58] <holyguyver> So will someone help me?!
[04:58] <greencookie> it seems I can't connect to wpa connections
[04:58] <greencookie> wierd.
[04:59] <lee986321> ok once this programs done up dating, i ll up grade..
[04:59] <holyguyver> my question was & still is what do I put into fstab to make it mount & umount a drive under sudo
[05:00] <lee986321> eh i think i have the 64 bit on unbuntu on the hdd not sure
[05:00] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: that page shuld help you lots
[05:00] <holyguyver> well it doesnt
[05:01] <DaSkreech> !wpa | greencookie
[05:01] <ubotu> greencookie: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:01] <lee986321> eh wheres that page that tels us how to setup the ati drivers at?
[05:01] <holyguyver> DaSkreech just ask archoille, this is not your average hhd :p
[05:01] <lee986321> or whats the comand line?
[05:02] <lee986321> ati
[05:02] <lee986321> !ati
[05:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:02] <lee986321> ahh ther it is lol
[05:02] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: can You mount it?
[05:02] <DaSkreech> !ati
[05:02] <DaSkreech> doh :)
[05:02] <holyguyver> yes, but only as sudo
[05:02] <greencookie> bingo thats what i needed ubotu thanks!
[05:02] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: that's fine
[05:03] <holyguyver> meaning I can only mount it from within konsol
[05:03] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: Whats the command ?
[05:03] <holyguyver> But I want it to mount automaticly
[05:03] <greencookie> Guys when I try to enable the ati restricted driver module X fails to load.. . :(
[05:03] <holyguyver> the cammand is sudo mount /dev/sda1
[05:03] <greencookie> ATI accelerated graphics driver
[05:04] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: can you paste bin your fstab file ?
[05:04] <DaSkreech> greencookie: how are you enabling ?
[05:05] <greencookie> from system>restricted drivers.  In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.10-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1010 kB, installed size 2788 kB
[05:11] <greencookie> ?
[05:11] <lee986321> eh guys i thbik i have a winner..how can i tell what version is running on a hdd?
[05:11] <DaSkreech> greencookie: yes
[05:12] <greencookie> rofl..no ure a real nice guy for helping me out.
[05:12] <jay> Reading package lists... Done
[05:12] <jay> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:12] <holyguyver> DaSkreech, did you take a look at my pastebin?
[05:12] <jay> E: Couldn't find package gcc
[05:12] <DaSkreech> lee986321: /path/to/lsb_release -a ?
[05:12] <DaSkreech> !b-e | jay
[05:12] <ubotu> jay: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:12] <lee986321> ah ok
[05:12] <greencookie> sudo apt-get irssi?
[05:12] <ksivaji> DaSkreech ubuntu is  new  for him
[05:13] <greencookie> I'm getting an error saying invalid operation
[05:13] <greencookie> yep ksivaji im new to ubuntu:)
[05:13] <DaSkreech> greencookie: sudo apt-get install irssi
[05:13] <ksivaji> jay which version of ubuntu you have
[05:13] <greencookie> oh thanks DaSkreech.
[05:13] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: And that doesn't mount on boot?
[05:13] <ksivaji> jay 7.04 or 6.10
[05:13] <holyguyver> DaSkreech?
[05:14] <holyguyver> O hi :p
[05:14] <holyguyver> no it does not mount, I told you it was a special hhd :p
[05:14] <DaSkreech> when you ls /mnt/sda1 it doesn't exist?
[05:14] <jay> kubuntu v 6.06 lts it is a live cd but i installed the os
[05:14] <greencookie> DaSkreech:  im getting
[05:14] <greencookie> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:14] <greencookie> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:14] <DaSkreech> greencookie: you have  adept open ?
[05:14] <ksivaji> jay ok wait
[05:14] <holyguyver> it does exist & it does mount, but only if I go into konsal
[05:15] <greencookie> DaSkreech: whats adept? sorry:(
[05:15] <ksivaji> !source-o-matic
[05:15] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:15] <DaSkreech> greencookie: are you installing something somewhere else?
[05:15] <holyguyver> !adepy:greencookie
[05:15] <greencookie> DaSkreech: Doh! yes. im updating:)
[05:15] <DaSkreech> !adept
[05:15] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager.  For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[05:18] <ksivaji> jay    press alt+f2 "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:18] <greencookie> DaSkreech:  my bad i went into #ubuntu? and not #ubuntu . silly '?' makr
[05:18] <greencookie> mark*
[05:18] <DaSkreech> greencookie: Ha ha :)
[05:18] <greencookie> o i got in:(
[05:19] <greencookie> thanks Da
[05:19] <DaSkreech> greencookie: Sure
[05:19] <greencookie> later all you kubunts! im going to ubunt
[05:19] <hydrogen__> hmm.. should NetGear 111vv2 wireless usb adaptor work fine with WPA?
[05:19] <greencookie> Hydrogen: i got same prob:)
[05:19] <jay> what to do next
[05:20] <Hydrogen> greencookie: :/
[05:20] <holyguyver> so anyway DaSkreech figure out what I should put into it yet? :-p
[05:20] <DaSkreech> greencookie: Bye! When you brown out a bit we'll welcome you back! :)
[05:20] <Hydrogen> I suppose I could bust out the ndiswrapper leet skillz
[05:20] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: yo
[05:20] <greencookie> DaSkreech: sure. whats "brown out"? sorry not american:(
[05:20] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: can You check your dmesg for anything to do with sda1 ?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> greencookie: You are a green cookie. I guess you need to ripen some more :)
[05:21] <holyguyver> what is dmesg?
[05:21] <holyguyver> !dmesg
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmesg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: It's the log of what the kernel is doing on boot
[05:21] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: type dmesg | grep sda at the command line
[05:21] <holyguyver> I don't need to see it, I know what it is doing, I have read it many times
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Ah wha'ts the error
[05:21] <tazz> i want to upgrade to gutsy, but i am on a dogy 64 kbps connection and i have to download ~950 Mb of pakages. What would you suggest as the best way to go forward.
[05:21] <jay> shivaji u there
[05:22] <ksivaji> jay yes one sec
[05:22] <holyguyver> it can't boot that drive because I do not have the privliges & must run it root, it says
[05:22] <ksivaji> 6.60 is edgy or dapper
[05:22] <CPrgmSwR2> DaSkreech: hey
[05:22] <greencookie> DaSkreech: haha ok gotya. btw if u eat dem greencookies ull be in jolly good mood:0 before I leave lemme show u something:
[05:22] <ksivaji> 6.06*
[05:22] <greencookie> !offtopic |Daskreech
[05:22] <ubotu> Daskreech: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:22] <greencookie> bye
[05:22] <greencookie> hehe
[05:22] <ksivaji> !edgy
[05:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the 5th release of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[05:22] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: the only thing the kernel can run as is root
[05:22] <ksivaji> !dapper
[05:22] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[05:22] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: that can't be right
[05:23] <jay> i dont know
[05:23] <CPrgmSwR2> DaSkreech: gentoo started giving me kde4 problems so I switched to kubuntu
[05:23] <holyguyver> I know, but that is what happens :-p
[05:23] <CPrgmSwR2> brb
[05:23] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: Ah :-) may want to hit #kubuntu-devel to find out about the latest Beta3 packages
[05:24] <Hydrogen> hmm
[05:24] <Hydrogen> this is a fun adventure
[05:24] <holyguyver> I need to have it say something like "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 ntfs-3g rw,user,defaults,force 0 0" in fstab apperantly, but in proper sentex
[05:24] <Hydrogen> my only way of easily accessing the internet from my other box is via wireless
[05:24] <ksivaji> jay are you there
[05:24] <Hydrogen> however although kubuntu recognizes my wireless, it won't do anything with it
[05:24] <jay> s
[05:24] <Hydrogen> and I can't install wine to run the installer and extract the necessary files
[05:24] <ksivaji> jay    press alt+f2 "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"  have you done this
[05:25] <jay> yes
[05:25] <ksivaji> jay do you have a text file
[05:25] <holyguyver> DaSkreecch, you reading me?
[05:25] <jay> ya
[05:25] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: yeah
[05:25] <ksivaji> save that file with some other name because you are going to edit that file now
[05:26] <KDEfanboy> how do i find out what options the packaged kernel is compiled with? specifically i'm looking for low latency CONFIG_HZ_1000 and preemption for optimal performance for whte Enemy Territory: Quake Wars demo that was released today
[05:26] <ksivaji> jay take a backup
[05:26] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: try taking out defaults
[05:26] <DaSkreech> !wifi | Hydrogen
[05:26] <ubotu> Hydrogen: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:26] <holyguyver> DaSkreech, I tried that two hours ago, it did not help.
[05:26] <ksivaji> jay come to #offline (click here)
[05:26] <Hydrogen> DaSkreech: if I hadn't already been there and found that my device "works fine" I'd say thank you..
[05:27] <DaSkreech> Hydrogen: Soooo instead you'll say.... ? :)
[05:27] <Hydrogen> how the eff do I fix it?
[05:28] <holyguyver> DaSkreech, then as I said that page about fstab that you made ubotu say is helpless for my situation.
[05:28] <CPrgmSwR2> DaSkreech: odd, kde4 beta3 didn't install right
[05:28] <alex_> fast forwarding in kaffeine causes my desktop to lock up, any ideas?
[05:28] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: Ah :-) may want to hit #kubuntu-devel to find out about the latest Beta3 packages ;-)
[05:28] <ksivaji> jay:
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Hydrogen: you ran through troubleshooting ?
[05:28] <Hydrogen> DaSkreech: yes.  Its the driver that sucks.
[05:28] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: What's the exact error from dmesg /
[05:29] <holyguyver> DaSkreech, as I said you could ask ardchoille, he would tell you that everyone agrees, my external hhd is no ordinary harddrive, it is crazy :p
[05:30] <tonyo> alguien de mexicooooooooooo???????????
[05:30] <DaSkreech> !es | tonyo
[05:30] <ubotu> tonyo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:32] <tonyo> I did't ask 4 help, just wanted to know if any mexican was connected xD
[05:32] <tonyo> but thanx
[05:33] <DaSkreech> tonyo: Yes but this is the english channel :)
[05:33] <tonyo> I just never saw that restriction, but i'll search for it
[05:34] <holyguyver> DaSkreech , here is what it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40764/
[05:35] <ksivaji>    jay     http://pastebin.com/m604a7442
[05:36] <CPrgmSwR2> Has anyone else been able to get kde4-beta3 to work?
[05:38] <ksivaji> jay are you there ?
[05:39] <holyguyver> So DaSkreech , I suposed it would be "Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 786433"
[05:39] <CPrgmSwR2> where can I download libkpty
[05:39] <DaSkreech> !find libkpty
[05:40] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: Where are you getting that?
[05:40] <ubotu> Package/file libkpty does not exist in feisty
[05:40] <holyguyver> I should you the pastebin already that has it
[05:40] <holyguyver> showed
[05:40] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: Oh right :)
[05:40] <ksivaji> jay http://pastebin.com/m604a7442
[05:40] <CPrgmSwR2> No wonder beta3 doesn't work
[05:41] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: May want to run fsck on the drive
[05:41] <holyguyver> why would that make a differeance on my privilges?
[05:41] <holyguyver> The drive works
[05:42] <holyguyver> I can readf & write to the files just fione
[05:42] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: Yeah true
[05:44] <holyguyver> DaSkreech , I can already read & write to the files just fine, the only problem is it will not let me mount & umount it unless I go into konsal & type in "sudo mount (or umount) /dev/sda1"
[05:45] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: but if it mounts with that it should mount on boot
[05:45] <holyguyver> but it doesn't because it says that I do not have the privliges to mount or unmount it
[05:46] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: can you change user to users ?
[05:46] <holyguyver> in fstab?
[05:46] <holyguyver> but the proper cammand is user
[05:46] <seanix> hi :)
[05:47] <ksivaji>  Jucato :hi
[05:47] <Jucato> hi
[05:47] <CPrgmSwR2> Jucato: hey have you been able to get beta3 to work of kde4?
[05:48] <Jucato> CPrgmSwR2: from svn? yep
[05:48] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: Yeah but I wanna see
[05:48] <CPrgmSwR2> from kubuntu packages though?
[05:48] <Jucato> me? hero? lol no
[05:48] <Jucato> CPrgmSwR2: nope... I almost never use our kde4 packs :)
[05:48] <holyguyver> curiosity killed the cat DaSkreech :-p
[05:48] <xevious> i'll use kde4 when it's good and ready
[05:49] <seanix> anyone running 7.10 RC?
[05:49] <CPrgmSwR2> xevious: I have already fallen in love with kde4
[05:49] <ksivaji> seanix #ubuntu+1 for 7.10
[05:49] <xevious> CPrgmSwR2: i bet i will too
[05:49] <seanix> ahhh ok, thanks :)
[05:53] <holyguyver> well DaSkreeck, here is what it said "unable to mount"
[05:53] <mimmo> ciao
[05:53] <holyguyver> DaSkreech *
[05:54] <mimmuzzo> oi
[05:54] <mimmuzzo> italiano ?
[05:54] <Jucato> !it | mimmuzzo
[05:54] <ubotu> mimmuzzo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:54] <mimmuzzo> si
[05:54] <mimmuzzo> grazie a te
[05:54] <mimmuzzo> ciao
[05:54] <Hydrogen> well
[05:54] <Hydrogen> thats remarkable
[05:55] <Hydrogen> the windows drivers through ndiswrapper perform worse than the linux drivers
[05:55] <holyguyver> may I change it back to no s now DaSkreech? :-p
[05:55] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: Sure :)
[05:56] <DaSkreech> Jucato: find the error in this line
[05:56] <DaSkreech>  /etc/fstab:-> /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 ntfs-3g rw,user,defaults,force 0 0
[05:57] <Jucato> what error is it giving?
[05:57] <DaSkreech> must be root to mount
[05:57] <DaSkreech> Me either but it's apparently giving this on boot
[05:58] <DaSkreech> Cause you know the kernel normally runs as an unprivileged user ....
[05:58] <Zyklon-B> Is there anything like test-repository for Kubuntu... if you have the addresses I would like to know
[05:59] <DaSkreech> Whatdoes a test repo do?
[05:59] <xevious> Jucato: we can pipe things to users through ubotu? cool!
[05:59] <Jucato> xevious: yep.since looooong ago :)
[05:59] <Zyklon-B> usuall test-repo has the latest version of the programs
[05:59] <DaSkreech> !coc | xevious No we can't stop saying that
[05:59] <ubotu> xevious No we can't stop saying that: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:59] <xevious> Jucato: i'm relatively new here
[05:59] <Jucato> you can also redirect ( > ) so that it PM's the factoid
[05:59] <Jucato> !bot > xevious
[06:00] <xevious> Jucato: cool. thanks
[06:00] <holyguyver> so jucato , have anything ti say to what DaSkreech said about my harddrive? :-p
[06:00] <Jucato> holyguyver: not a clue. sorry
[06:01] <Jucato> what does the wiki say?
[06:01] <Jucato> !ntfs-3g
[06:01] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:01] <g0dd3ss> hai everyone!!! I have ubuntu feisty with kde and I have this battery manager monitor thingy that's supposed to be in the tray, but it opens in it's own little window, how to fix??
[06:01] <holyguyver> Are you supposed to be reading that wiki or I jucato? because I read that last month :-p
[06:02] <Jucato> um... you should... maybe it has been updated? dunno... 1) I don't mount my NTFS and 2) I suck at fstab/mount
[06:03] <holyguyver> Jucato it has nothing to do with that ntfs-3g is working as it should, the problem does not lie there, but in the fstab
[06:04] <stdin> it does, "umask=0000" (tho I think "fmask=111,dmask=000" is better)
[06:04] <holyguyver> well then you read it & see if your hunch is right, for if it does, what makes you think that what my fstab has is any different then what they suggest, jacuto?
[06:04] <holyguyver> jucato
[06:04] <jimmacdonald> lots of nividia problems?
[06:05] <DaSkreech> w3m ?
[06:05] <Jucato> yes but I would still have to type in the link manually right?
[06:05] <Goop2> I have a quick question about sound in wine
[06:05] <holyguyver> well I promise you my stab says exactly what the ntfs-3g website told me to put jucato
[06:05] <stdin> Jucato: gpm ftw
[06:06] <stdin> Jucato: lets you use your mouse to copy/paste in a console
[06:06] <Jucato> yeah
[06:07] <Jucato> just too sick today to do that right now
[06:07] <holyguyver> So jucato, since that is the case, try another suggestion :-p
[06:07] <Jucato> so if that's the case, I don't have any other suggestion
[06:08] <holyguyver> you was sick last week too jucato, what ills you? you wouldn't tell me last time :(
[06:08] <Jucato> last week? can't recall. this time, asthma
[06:08] <ksivaji> i know user name password of system with ip <IP_ADDRESS> ,still i cant login because telnet and ssh says connection timedout ,but i can ping <IP_ADDRESS> works
[06:08] <ksivaji> is there anyother way to login
[06:09] <holyguyver> yes jucato, a week or two or three ago you said you had a bad day that you didn't want to talk about, that you was very ill.
[06:09] <Jucato> nah that was just me having a bad day :)
[06:10] <jimmacdonald> is anyone else having problems with nvidia cards after the update?
[06:10] <holyguyver> & jucato that time that I was in two or three weeks ago, it was with a problem with this same drive :-p
[06:11] <holyguyver> jucato this drive is a nightmare, no one, has been able to figure it out all this month
[06:12] <holyguyver> I finally got it working 3 nights ago, but only through konsal under sudo
[06:13] <holyguyver> it doesn't seem logical to have to go into konsal & type in sudo mount & sudo umount every time
[06:14] <truth> anyone mind helping me setup a network? i'm running kubuntu on this one, and xp on the other computer
[06:14] <Goop2> anybody know why a game in wine wouldnt give any sound output?
[06:14] <holyguyver> & every time I talk about cracking kde && running permanitly as root all the admins get mad at me :-p LoL
[06:15] <holyguyver> I meant kubuntu not kde
[06:15] <xevious> holyguyver: don't do that!
[06:15] <sd32> which players play divx?
[06:15] <xevious> holyguyver: bad! shame on you!
[06:15] <DaSkreech> !divx
[06:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:16] <sd32> thnaks
[06:16] <Goop2> I would love to run under root all the time
[06:16] <xevious> Goop2: check the winehq appdb. www.winehq.org
[06:16] <holyguyver> jucato you reading me? LoL :-p
[06:16] <Goop2> xevious: I checked and RollerCoaster Tycoon is rated gold
[06:16] <holyguyver> Xevious, so I was not lieing about the admins getting mad when I say that :-p
[06:17] <xevious> holyguyver, Goop2: http://www.ists.dartmouth.edu/classroom/topten-noroot.v8.php
[06:17] <truth> !samba
[06:17] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:17] <xevious> heheh
[06:17] <truth> anyone have any experience using samba?
[06:18] <holyguyver> xevious, I know not to want to run as root all the time, it is obvious you came into my conversation at the wrong time :-p
[06:18] <hdevalence> If I wante dto display line 60 of file foobar, what program would I use?
[06:19] <CPrgmSwR2> is there a way to install the latest drivers for fglrx
[06:19] <CPrgmSwR2> ?
[06:19] <xevious> holyguyver: that link's pretty funny, anyway: 7  	The security permissions are designed to make your day as frustrating as possible.
[06:19] <truth> hmmm
[06:19] <truth> does anyone know where the kubuntu help channel moved to?
[06:19] <holyguyver> truth it is here
[06:20] <Goop2> I dont do that sort of thing though
[06:20] <Goop2> I just want it for icons and things :\
[06:21] <holyguyver> see truth , we helped you admit to being as smart ass :-p
[06:21] <Goop2> I just open konqueror in root though
[06:21] <truth> lol
[06:21] <truth> very clever
[06:21] <Goop2> that woorks
[06:22] <truth> i'm trying to setup a home network. kubuntu and xp
[06:22] <Goop2> install kubuntu over XP
[06:22] <Goop2> that should work
[06:22] <Goop2> :D
[06:22] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: Go to ATI's site and get them
[06:22] <holyguyver> here you go here is the kubuntu answer to that truth xp is from ms & ms is the devil, stay away from it :-p
[06:22] <truth> Goop2, if it was up to me, xp wouldn't exist in my home
[06:22] <CPrgmSwR2> DaSkreech: I have never had luck with that method
[06:23] <DaSkreech> truth: what are you trying to do
[06:23] <DaSkreech> !ati | CPrgmSwR2
[06:23] <ubotu> CPrgmSwR2: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:23] <truth> setup home network where i have access to all files on the xp machine, and be able to use the printer setup on the xp machine
[06:23] <kris> Hi. Is the name of the default sound device in Ubuntu /dev/dsp?
[06:23] <Goop2> truth: Same here. My brother just got vista though, so I have to dodge the demons every time I go to that side of the building
[06:24] <DaSkreech> truth: try smb:/ in konqueror
[06:24] <DaSkreech> !cups | truth
[06:24] <ubotu> truth: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:24] <holyguyver> goop2 install kubuntu over his visa in the middle of the night ;-)
[06:24] <truth> lol@holy
[06:25] <Goop2> holyguyver: I would, but then he would install MS DOS over my Kubuntu
[06:25] <xevious> install plan9 on it
[06:25] <xevious> or openstep
[06:25] <xevious> openstep is sweet
[06:25] <truth> DaScreech: what about.... samba? all the things i've read said to use that
[06:25] <DaSkreech> Or haiku!
[06:26] <xevious> truth: smb:/ accesses the samba network
[06:26] <holyguyver> Goop2 how about you install kubuntu over his vista in the middle of the night & install a vista clone kde skin into it so he can't tell the differance, after all windows people are stupid enough to fall for that ;)
[06:26] <DaSkreech> truth: Let me see if I understand You want the Linux box to be able to see the files on the Windows XP box over shared folders ?
[06:26] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: Hey that's not nice
[06:26] <truth> Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall.
[06:27] <xevious> *cough*buttrue*cough*
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[06:27] <xevious> yeah. a vista theme and compiz and you'd probably fool them
[06:27] <DaSkreech> truth: try smb:/ip.of.xp.computer
[06:27] <DaSkreech> till he fires up COD
[06:27] <truth> yes exactly. and also be able to use the printer that is installed on xp
[06:27] <aqej> hello there
[06:28] <DaSkreech> truth: right the CUPS page should help you setup to point at the network printer
[06:28] <DaSkreech> !hi | aqej
[06:28] <ubotu> aqej: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:28] <aqej> do I need a high memory card to run compiz-fusion?
[06:28] <Goop2> holyguyver: I dont think it would work.. Ill just dodge the demons
[06:28] <DaSkreech> aqej: High memory card ?
[06:29] <g0dd3ss> hai everyone!!! I have ubuntu feisty with kde and I have this battery manager monitor thingy that's supposed to be in the tray, but it opens in it's own little window, how to fix??
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Like above slot 3 on the motherboard ?
[06:29] <truth> Timeout on server
[06:29] <aqej> i mean like a 256MB graphics card?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> g0dd3ss: Where?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> truth: do you have folders shared on the XP box ?
[06:29] <Goop2> g0dd3ss: as a temperary fix you could use Kdocker
[06:30] <truth> 90% sure. let me double check. brb
[06:30] <DaSkreech> aqej: My friend runs it on a 64 Meg Geforce 2 MX if that helps
[06:30] <aqej> I have a 128MB card now but compiz keeps crashing...
[06:30] <aqej> oic
[06:30] <DaSkreech> aqej: try in #ubuntu-effects or #compiz-fusion
[06:30] <g0dd3ss> DaSkreech, well it just opens in a little window in the top left corner, i would try to uninstall it and get something else but i dont really know what it's called, is there a way i can find out?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> probably kpowermanager
[06:31] <aqej> compiz is still very unstable....
[06:31] <aqej> ok thanks...
[06:31] <DaSkreech> aqej: agreed. It's near alpha stage
[06:31] <aqej> #compiz-fusion
[06:31] <holyguyver> Goop2 don't feel bad, my mother just bought a vista to replace the kubuntu computer I gave her :(
[06:32] <Goop2> holyguyver: ouch
[06:32] <DaSkreech> So did mine!
[06:32] <holyguyver> doouble ouch for us both then :-p
[06:33] <xevious> my mom runs qnx
[06:33] <truth> DaSkreech: Yes, there's shared folders
[06:33] <Goop2> well Ill be buying a mac to replace my moms XP, so I guess its not all bad
[06:33] <DaSkreech> truth: And a firewall I'm guessing?
[06:33] <xevious> no that was a lie
[06:34] <truth> turned off
[06:34] <DaSkreech> truth: Wait turned off?
[06:34] <DaSkreech> truth: zone alarm ?
[06:34] <truth> windows firewall
[06:34] <holyguyver> Goop2 I think mac is almost as bad as MS after all they are closed source too
[06:34] <DaSkreech> ah
[06:34] <DaSkreech> ok
[06:34] <truth> Hmmmmmmm
[06:35] <simon__> hi: someone please help with java issue and firefox
[06:35] <Goop2> I already replaced her powerpoint with open office, and put all her sound in winamp, and video in VLC
[06:35] <truth> This computer and the other has the same ip
[06:35] <keith__> finally I have kde4-beta3 working !!!
[06:35] <DaSkreech> truth: What? virtual machine ?
[06:35] <DaSkreech> hi CPrgmSwR2
[06:35] <truth> virtual machine...?
[06:35] <CPrgmSwR2> DaSkreech: hi
[06:35] <DaSkreech> truth: how do you have the same IP?
[06:36] <holyguyver> Goop2 why not just get her a feebsd then?
[06:36] <truth> no idea...
[06:36] <holyguyver> freebsd
[06:36] <CPrgmSwR2> how do I search apt-get using the command line
[06:36] <truth> both computers are hooked to the same router
[06:36] <Goop2> I dont have experience with that
[06:37] <holyguyver> Goop2 it is what mac osx is based on...or is that netbsd, I can't remember which.
[06:37] <DaSkreech> truth: DHCP ?
[06:37] <truth> Ummmm....
[06:37] <truth> !dhcp
[06:37] <ubotu> dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP
[06:37] <holyguyver> !bsd
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bsd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <holyguyver> wow ubotu doesn't know about bsd :-p
[06:37] <xevious> figures :D
[06:38] <truth> I don't know....
[06:38] <xevious> holyguyver: osx runs darwin which is a mach kernel, similar to bsd
[06:38] <DaSkreech> truth: Did you put in a IP or did the computer just get one ?
[06:38] <truth> DaSkreech: btw, i'm relatively new to linux
[06:38] <truth> www.whatismyip.com
[06:38] <DaSkreech> truth: No problem
[06:38] <DaSkreech> truth: Ah! I see :)
[06:38] <holyguyver> xevious, but wasn't their an opendarwin project at one time? :)
[06:39] <xevious> holyguyver: there sure was.
[06:39] <DaSkreech> go to the windows Xp box. If you have a network icon in the system tray double click it and then click on details
[06:39] <DaSkreech> You should see an IP address there
[06:39] <holyguyver> so see he shhould get his mother a pc with opendarwin on it instead of a mac :-p
[06:40] <bobzombie> hi
[06:40] <DaSkreech> !hi
[06:40] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:40] <bobzombie> okay who has kde4 working under gutsy as a testing environment?
[06:40] <xevious> holyguyver: there's no graphical interface in opendarwin
[06:40] <bobzombie> the topic instructions don't work
[06:40] <DaSkreech> bobzombie: gutsy questions are in #ubuntu+1
[06:40] <bobzombie> just curious if there is an alternate method
[06:41] <bobzombie> no
[06:41] <holyguyver> or else get his mom kubuntu with a osx clone kde skin on it :-p
[06:41] <truth> heh.... wow... i shoulda known to check that
[06:41] <DaSkreech> truth: try smb:/with.that.ip.instead
[06:41] <truth> at least i don't pay too much for car insurance
[06:41] <DaSkreech> Thank you progrssive
[06:41] <Goop2> holyguyver: well no, I was getting it for myself, its just going to take over everything hers does
[06:42] <holyguyver> Goop2 why through out kubuntu for osx?
[06:42] <Goop2> I have kubuntu on my desktop
[06:42] <Goop2> I just bought a 500gig hard drive too
[06:42] <Zicks> someone please help with java
[06:42] <DaSkreech> Zicks: Sup ?
[06:42] <Goop2> but I want a laptop, and I like the macbooks
[06:42] <truth> Same thing again.... except this time it took much longer before it told me
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:43] <holyguyver> goop2, get a macbook & install kubuntu onto it :-p
[06:43] <DaSkreech> that's funky
[06:43] <DaSkreech> !info smb4k
[06:43] <ubotu> smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-1build1 (feisty), package size 1762 kB, installed size 3756 kB
[06:43] <Goop2> holyguyver: well I probabally will
[06:43] <DaSkreech> truth: install that ^^^
[06:43] <holyguyver> Goop2 :-D Yay!! :)
[06:44] <Goop2> holyguyver: brb, I have a home security thing screeching in my ear
[06:44] <truth> k. brb
[06:44] <sd32> help, my shut down button has dissapeared!!
[06:44] <holyguyver> sd32, unplug it (j/k)
[06:45] <sd32> is there any way to fix it?
[06:45] <sd32> thats what i have to do now
[06:45] <Goop2> holyguyver: I would still dual boot, but I would probabally have Linux on it
[06:45] <utnubuk_> the 7.10 cd wont work on my laptop - I see the mouse cursor appear a couple of times but then the screen flashes and I see "* Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)   [OK] " and the computer just sits there doing nothing
[06:45] <utnubuk_> that was in safe graphics mode by the way
[06:46] <utnubuk_> I can ctrl-alt whatever into other shells, but no desktop/
[06:46] <DaSkreech> sd32: When did it disappear?
[06:46] <Goop2> oh sweet I got the sound working in wine
[06:46] <Goop2> now I can play my game!
[06:47] <holyguyver> sd32, I believe you can re-add the shut down button, but I am in xfce right now & thus can not help you out with kde at the moment, sorry
[06:47] <sd32> daskreechabout a month ago
[06:47] <Zicks> How can I download and install java runtime for firefox --- Please someone help
[06:47] <truth> DaSkreech: Finished and open.
[06:47] <DaSkreech> truth: can You connect to the XP machine ?
[06:47] <Goop2> ttyl peeps!
[06:47] <bobzombie> Zicks from the repos
[06:47] <DaSkreech> !java | Zicks
[06:47] <ubotu> Zicks: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:47] <bobzombie> Zicks apt-cache search java
[06:47] <bobzombie> install the sun java binaries and you are done
[06:47] <Zicks> thanks I will try now
[06:48] <DaSkreech> Zicks: do you know how to enable multiverse ?
[06:48] <Zicks> nope
[06:48] <holyguyver> so DaSkreech, any ideas what I can do to get it to mount?
[06:48] <DaSkreech> !multiverse | Zicks
[06:48] <ubotu> Zicks: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:49] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: It should be mounting already Without more info I'm not sure
[06:49] <holyguyver> I am going to call it a night ttyl
[06:50] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: Night hope you get that sorted
[06:50] <sd32> how would i re-add the shut down button?
[06:50] <agent9> what?
[06:50] <truth> I hit scan network and nothing came up
[06:50] <sd32> ilost my shut down button
[06:51] <sd32> :(
[06:51] <truth> I went to Mount Manually... it asked for Share:       IP:         and Workgroup:
[06:51] <chay> NAKIKITA MO BA KO
[06:51] <sd32> it must have wandered off with those hippies:)
[06:51] <agent9> oo
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Share: folder name IP: IP address Workgroup: Work group name
[06:52] <chay> YHEY
[06:52] <chay> KEWL
[06:52] <agent9> wahha kony
[06:52] <chay> asl pls
[06:52] <DaSkreech> !caps | chay
[06:52] <chay> haha
[06:52] <ubotu> chay: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:52] <truth> The input of the share is wrong. It must have the form //HOST/SHARE.
[06:52] <DaSkreech> sd32: How do you shutdown now?
[06:52] <DaSkreech> truth: Ah right
[06:52] <sd32> pull the plug
[06:52] <utnubuk_> i did startx in another bash thing and then looked at the logs, it got (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> try 'sudo halt' :)
[06:53] <utnubuk_> does that have something to do with my problem possibly?
[06:53] <sd32> dr willis, thanks
[06:53] <utnubuk_> and a bunch of errors on the touchpad
[06:53] <agent9> san na?
[06:53] <utnubuk_> hmm
[06:54] <chay> dito ko
[06:54] <chay> chat na tayo
[06:55] <Zicks> I dont have software preferences -- where can i instal it?
[06:55] <agent9> ok
[06:55] <truth> None of that is working
[06:55] <utnubuk_> im using the latest 7.10 iso and it's not working on a laptop that is only a year old.... what gives??
[06:55] <utnubuk_> previous versions worked
[06:55] <sd32> is there anyway to get the shut down button back without reinstalling?
[06:55] <chay> andami namang epal dito
[06:55] <chay> hehe
[06:56] <agent9> oo nga eh
[06:56] <agent9> mga  genius
[06:56] <chay> hahaha
[06:56] <agent9> shut up!
[06:56] <chay> english talaga
[06:56] <DaSkreech> !pl
[06:56] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:56] <agent9> oo nga
[06:56] <chay> nasa ibang dimension tayo
[06:56] <agent9> nakaktawa cla
[06:56] <chay> nababasa kaya nila to
[06:56] <agent9>  malamang
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> sd32 which shutdown button? reisntalling to get a button back is 'windows thinking'
[06:56] <DaSkreech> agent9, chay: This is an english channel
[06:57] <chay> oh ok
[06:57] <chay> im sorry
[06:57] <sd32> dr willis, on the logout screen
[06:57] <DaSkreech> chay: What language is that ?
[06:57] <utnubuk_> !AIGLX
[06:57] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[06:57] <agent9> tagalog
[06:57] <Zicks> DaSkreech : More help please .... I dont have Software Properties option, do I install it ?
[06:57] <agent9> install it
[06:57] <chay> gagu
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Zicks: what version of kubuntu are you on?
[06:57] <chay> prolixus version
[06:58] <utnubuk_> !PreInit
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about preinit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <Zicks> 7.04
[06:58] <melkor__> How do I configure xorg.  I don't have a 'screen' on my new laptop
[06:58] <DaSkreech> !tl
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <chay> nose bleed
[06:58] <agent9> buy new
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> sd32 should be a kdm/gdm setting.  if its missing.   if you are refering to the USERS logoiut screen.. If using KDE and KDM you will see different options - then ifyou were using GDM and KDE.
[06:58] <agent9> oo nga
[06:58] <agent9> mukha sila tanga no?
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Zicks: When you go to adept -> manage repos what do you see ?
[06:58] <chay> ulol pla sila dito eh
[06:58] <chay> haha
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> sd32 or ya can always hit alt-ctrl-backspace, - then alt-ctrl delete real fast. :)
[06:58] <agent9> ha..ha
[06:59] <Zicks> Im installing adept now, It wasnt on before
[06:59] <chay> baka matulungan nila tayo
[06:59] <Daisuke-Ido> all i wanna do is adjust my froggin fan speed :\
[06:59] <agent9> bka
[06:59] <DaSkreech> !tgl
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tgl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:59] <chay> magtanong ka
[06:59] <utnubuk_> where can I get an old tribe4 image????
[06:59] <Daisuke-Ido> !en | chay
[06:59] <ubotu> chay: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Zicks: are you on ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[06:59] <sd32> dr willis thats confusing:/
[06:59] <Zicks> ubuntu
[06:59] <Daisuke-Ido> utnubuk_: why would you want one?
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Zicks: Oh never mind then
[06:59] <chay> san ka na
[06:59] <agent9> dito
[06:59] <truth> Arg..... no luck.
[07:00] <chay> wag ka umalis]
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> sd32 its trivial.. IF you are using KDE then use KDM as your login manager. If using GNOME mainly then use gdm.
[07:00] <agent9> binbsa ko
[07:00] <utnubuk_> Daisuke-Ido: the latest 7.10 cd wont work, tribe 4 will I want to upgrade from there
[07:00] <truth> Maybe something isnt setup correctly on the xp machine
[07:00] <Daisuke-Ido> english only in here.
[07:00] <agent9> dito nga lng
[07:00] <chay> leche
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> sd32 if you get the 2  mixxed up - you wont get all the 'logout' optiions
[07:00] <sd32> dr willis, gotcha, thanks
[07:00] <agent9> leche
[07:00] <chay> leche ung daisuke na un ah\
[07:00] <utnubuk_> Daisuke-Ido: any ideas?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Zicks: Why didn't you ask for help in #ubuntu ?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> !ph | agent9, chay
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> sd32 or use the halt command. :) or any of a dozen other ways.
[07:00] <ubotu> agent9, chay: Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[07:00] <Zicks> oh
[07:00] <Zicks> ok
[07:00] <Zicks> thanks
[07:00] <Daisuke-Ido> utnubuk_: wait 3 days?
[07:01] <chay> wtf
[07:01] <agent9> bet namen pake mu
[07:01] <chay> epal sila
[07:01] <utnubuk_> Daisuke-Ido: pfff okay, what happens in 3 days?
[07:01] <chay> pinapalayas na nila tayo
[07:01] <sd32> dr willis, so using the gnome login is messing me up?
[07:01] <Daisuke-Ido> final release
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> sd32 if you are using GDM and KDE - YES. it will not show all the options.. plain and simple. :)
[07:01] <utnubuk_> aha
[07:01] <rob> chay, please cut that out :)
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> sd32 change them and see.
[07:01] <utnubuk_> how do I know it will work for me?
[07:02] <agent9> weeeeeeeee patawa ung rob kalbo
[07:02] <sd32> dr willis, thanks
[07:02] <rob> agent9, english please
[07:02] <chay> bago lang sya dito ha
[07:02] <DaSkreech> !ops
[07:02] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[07:02] <agent9> paki mu rob
[07:02] <chay> hahaha
[07:02] <Daisuke-Ido> utnubuk_: if the live cd doesn't, use the alternate cd
[07:02] <truth> DaSkreech: IP address IS assigned by DHCP. (i dont know if this is causing a problem)
[07:02] <DaSkreech> truth: no that's fine
[07:03] <DaSkreech> truth: if it was and both had the same IP address that would be worrying but it's ok
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> night all.....
[07:03] <DaSkreech> Night
[07:03] <truth> Maybe I am partial.... but i think problem is with xp
[07:03] <Daisuke-Ido> little music, time for sleep
[07:03] <DaSkreech> truth: I'd probably say so as well but still lets try and see if We can fingure it out
[07:04] <Daisuke-Ido> got 3 of the 5 pages for my analysis of SCOTUS's 1973 abortion decision :\
[07:04] <Daisuke-Ido> gnight
[07:04] <DaSkreech> chay: We don't have a problem with you being here. If you want to speak in tagalog please join #ubuntu-ph
[07:04] <truth> Awesome.
[07:04] <chay> this is the brand new chay, welcome me back rob!
[07:04] <rob> ahuh
[07:04] <DaSkreech> this is an english channel and we are trying to help people the less distraction we have the better
[07:05] <chay> ok
[07:05] <chay> i need help as well
[07:05] <DaSkreech> chay: fine. Ask for it in a language we can follow in
[07:06] <DaSkreech> english in here tagalog in #ubuntu-ph
[07:06] <truth> both pc's are on a wired connection to the same router
[07:06] <truth> through a hub
[07:06] <chay> mi nombre es elena, bente uno, mula sa mexico
[07:06] <DaSkreech> truth: you have ever connected another machine to those shares ?
[07:07] <rob> chay, #ubuntu-ph please
[07:07] <truth> no
[07:07] <chay> si senor
[07:07] <chay> mi a latina
[07:07] <rob> thanks stdin :D
[07:08] <jdong> meh I prefer that rosetta stuff for learning new languages
[07:08] <stdin> rob: np :)
[07:09] <Nebular> does anyone here know much about the analog kernel module. I need to manually map the buttons and axis of my gamepad, it says you should be able to do that but I can't figure it out
[07:09] <Nebular> very little on the web on it
[07:09] <DaSkreech> jdong: Ouch Like pain?
[07:10] <jdong> DaSkreech: si senior :)
[07:14] <truth> I'm making 0 progress with this.
[07:15] <truth> completely stumped
[07:18] <truth> Help?
[07:18] <joseph> Can anybody tell me what I get a usb hard drive to work in kde it works fine in Gnome
[07:19] <bobzombie> where is the kde session manager so i can add startup items for my session?
[07:20] <DaSkreech> truth: Turn the firewall on and make sure it allows windows shares ?
[07:21] <sub[t] rnl> bobzombie: kstart->system settings->advanced->Session manager configures sessions.  But to auto start apps you can make a sym link to them in ~/.kde/Autostart
[07:23] <sub[t] rnl> !autostart
[07:23] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[07:24] <melkor__> Well shit, I entered some things and it works, now I run gnome I guess
[07:25] <DaSkreech> !ohmy
[07:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:25] <sub[t] rnl> don't let stdin catch you cursing melkor. :P
[07:25] <sub[t] rnl> or DaSckreech!
[07:25] <blackhand> man o man.... I am loving this OS.
[07:26] <sub[t] rnl> blackhand: good to hear
[07:26] <DaSkreech> He said run *bleep* stdin! get him!!
[07:26] <blackhand> :)
[07:26] <melkor__> sorry
[07:26] <melkor__> I got a little excited
[07:26] <DaSkreech> melkor__: Were you trying to run gnome?
[07:26] <bobzombie> you mean kde doesn't have a gui sessio nmanager?
[07:26] <DaSkreech> blackhand: how long have you been using it?
[07:26] <bobzombie> i find that hard to believe, i thought i saw on ein an earlier version
[07:27] <blackhand> My first day...
[07:27] <blackhand> I loaded this on the PC and Mandriva on the laptop.
[07:27] <DaSkreech> blackhand: Welcome to Kubuntu!!
[07:27] <blackhand> thank you!
[07:27] <blackhand> :)
[07:28] <DaSkreech> Boy if you love it now I don't know how you are going to feel in a year!
[07:28] <DaSkreech> right after the whole I hate this OS phase :)
[07:28] <DaSkreech> hi nixternal
[07:29] <truth> i give up for now
[07:29] <melkor__> DaSkreech I installed it from a kubuntu cd, same one this is running
[07:29] <truth> ty for the ideas DaSkreech
[07:29] <blackhand> I just wanted to rid myself of Windows once and for all...
[07:30] <blackhand> Smooth transition so far.
[07:30] <DaSkreech> truth: ok you can read up on cups for the printing
[07:30] <truth> blackhand: Welcome to the revolution
[07:30] <DaSkreech> !cups > truth
[07:30] <blackhand> :)
[07:30] <blackhand> ty...\
[07:31] <wastedfluid> hey guys - when you're playing with a theme in the theme manager.. what option is the color of applications in your taskbar tht are minimized/inactive?  I can't find it.
[07:32] <BlackHand> Off to bed... thank's for the welcome.
[07:33] <DaSkreech> Night
[07:37] <kristjan_> is kde-look.org down?
[07:37] <kristjan_> do they have irc channel?
[07:40] <melkor__> night
[07:40] <DaSkreech> night
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Probably not kristjan_
[07:41] <kristjan_> DaSkreech: do you remember what was the biggest wallpaper size there?
[07:41] <DaSkreech> freaking big ?
[07:41] <kristjan_> oh wait, I could browse offline if I knew where that config is hidden in konqueror :-/
[07:47] <mr_butter> hey peeps.  I isntalled something using apt-get install cvs I want to remove it can someone help please?!
[07:49] <mr_butter> hey peeps.  I isntalled something using apt-get install cvs I want to remove it can someone help please?!
[07:49] <mr_butter> woops
[07:49] <mr_butter> sorry
[07:49] <mr_butter> double post
[07:49] <truth> !adept
[07:49] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:50] <stdin> mr_butter: tried "apt-get remove <package>" or using adept?
[07:50] <mr_butter> than you peeps
[07:51] <DaSkreech> mr_butter: You installed something with cvs or you installed cvs ?
[07:52] <Ayabara> I'm having a go at desktop effects here. Which Composite Manager would you guys recommend for Kubuntu?
[07:52] <mr_butter> I installed cvs
[07:52] <mr_butter> this is the reply i got to apt-get remove it
[07:53] <mr_butter> pasting a few lines don't kill me
[07:53] <mr_butter> sudo apt-get remove cvs
[07:53] <mr_butter> Password:
[07:53] <mr_butter> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:53] <mr_butter> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc
[07:53] <DaSkreech> mr_butter: You have adept open
[07:53] <Daisuke-Ido> is synaptic or adept open?
[07:53] <mr_butter> yes'
[07:53] <DaSkreech> mr_butter: close it and use sudo aptitude remove cvs
[07:53] <Daisuke-Ido> read the errors you're getting, think them through, you might have better luck fixing things than you thought
[07:54] <Daisuke-Ido> but why remove cvs?
[07:54] <mr_butter> well I didn't know what I installed I thought it was a webcam driver
[07:54] <mr_butter> whats it's purpose
[07:54] <mr_butter> it's not the driver i thought it was
[07:54] <Daisuke-Ido> cvs is content versioning system
[07:55] <Daisuke-Ido> it isn't directly useful, but it allows you to get source to compile other software
[07:55] <Daisuke-Ido> is that what cvs stands for?
[07:55] <Daisuke-Ido> if not it at least sounds plausible
[07:56] <mr_butter> yes it's removing
[07:56] <mr_butter> thanks peps
[07:56] <mr_butter> peeps
[07:56] <mr_butter> and I thought I was the only one using KDE
[07:57] <thumper> how can I get kdm back?
[07:57] <thumper> I installed ubuntu-desktop so I could play
[07:57] <thumper> but it overwrote kdm with gdm
[07:58] <thumper> I want my kdm back
[07:58] <thumper> pointers?
[07:59] <Lynoure> reinstall kubuntu-desktop? or just reconfigure kdm, I think
[07:59] <Lynoure> But gotta run now.
[08:00] <dorkface> Is this the right channel if one is having problems getting a burned kubuntu cd to work?
[08:00] <DaSkreech> thumper: reconfigure either gdm or kdm it will ask if you want it as default
[08:00] <DaSkreech> dorkface: sure
[08:00] <thumper> DaSkreech: ta
[08:01] <dxdt> Will the next version of Kubuntu have the cool desktop effect menus and such that Ubuntu will have?  I see screenshots of Gutsy and I want the neat 3 radio button wizard for installing desktop effects and such
[08:01] <dorkface> Yeah, for some reason, the CD does nothing on boot up; it goes directly to windows
[08:01] <dorkface> even though within windows, it can see the iso image on it when it is explored
[08:01] <dorkface> it does this on two seperate machines
[08:02] <dorkface> assuming "iso image" isn't redundant :d
[08:03] <DaSkreech> dorkface: How did you burn it?
[08:03] <sub[t] rnl> dorkface: have you checked your bios to see if you boot from a cdrom before the harddrive?
[08:03] <sub[t] rnl> hrm
[08:03] <DaSkreech> dxdt: Probably not but you can apt-get install compiz-fusion
[08:04] <dorkface> sub[t] rnl:  Yes, I did double check that.  As a matter of fact, on the first machine, I made it so that ALL of the boot steps were to boot to CD; it still booted to windows
[08:04] <dxdt> that is really the only thing I want from the gnome based version
[08:04] <dxdt> I find myself otherwise leaning toward KDE on how things are done
[08:04] <dorkface> DaSkreech:  I burned it on a windows vista machine, onto a CD-R
[08:04] <DaSkreech> dorkface: How?
[08:04] <dorkface> in terms of software?
[08:04] <DaSkreech> yes
[08:05] <truth> I immediately tend to blame Windows for everything
[08:05] <dorkface> whatever Vista uses
[08:05] <sub[t] rnl> DaSkreech is on the right path then, sounds like it wasn't burned properly
[08:05] <DaSkreech> Naw some stuff I blame hardware manufactuere for
[08:05] <DaSkreech> dorkface: Urk
[08:05] <DaSkreech> !iso
[08:05] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[08:05] <dorkface> tehe
[08:05] <DaSkreech> !live cd
[08:05] <dorkface> teehee
[08:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[08:05] <DaSkreech> Bah
[08:05] <DaSkreech> !nero
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nero - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <DaSkreech> dorkface: Does the ISO get it's own icon?
[08:06] <dorkface> yeah
[08:06] <dorkface> a blue cd
[08:06] <dorkface> but not on the CD
[08:06] <dorkface> on the OS
[08:07] <dorkface> on the CD, it has the "not recognized" icon
[08:08] <sub[t] rnl> try using some other app to burn the .iso file, besides a vista native
[08:08] <dorkface> I'll try that, and perhaps at a slower speed too, just in case
[08:08] <truth> dorkface: When you reboot, do you see something that says Boot Menu - Press F12    or anything that resembles that
[08:08] <sub[t] rnl> truth: he's booting from cdrom before harddrive
[08:09] <sub[t] rnl> dorkface: if I remember correctly poweriso is a lightweight program that does great.  I believe its free
[08:09] <truth> dorkface: How many cdrom's are in your system?
[08:09] <dorkface> just one
[08:09] <truth> PowerISO or MagicISO
[08:09] <DaSkreech> dorkface: Laptop?
[08:09] <dorkface> ty, I was just about to ask what you guys would recommend for a lightweight burn program :)
[08:09] <dorkface> one is a laptop, another is a  desktop
[08:10] <DaSkreech> http://www.deepburner.com
[08:10] <truth> I always used MagicISO or Alcohol 120%
[08:11] <truth> Well actually, I'm in the process of backing up files on a machine running Windows.
[08:12] <truth> Whenever I'm done....    :)
[08:13] <djdarkman> is there a way to edit the kde service menus?
[08:14] <mario> salut
[08:21] <djdarkman> how can I copy a file using kde`s copy instead of cp from the terminal?
[08:23] <DaSkreech> djdarkman: right click -> copy to -> browse to directory ?
[08:23] <djdarkman> no no I mean by command
[08:24] <djdarkman> I want to make a kde servicemenu that copys or moves a file to a specified directory
[08:25] <DaSkreech> Sorry
[08:25] <DaSkreech> I'm heading to bed
[08:25] <DaSkreech> djdarkman: $kde ?
[08:25] <DaSkreech> #kde ?
[08:25] <djdarkman> tryng there too
[08:25] <stephan_> hello, i am having trouble uninstalling f@h client and when i try to kill the process it says i dont have permission
[08:26] <jari> hi, could some one say what the orange color means in the ls command? Im trying to figure whats the difference between two subversion repositories
[08:26] <djdarkman> stephan_: do it with root
[08:26] <djdarkman> and if you 'uninstalled' it, it won`t start after reboot
[08:26] <truth> sudo killall filename  ?
[08:33] <dorkface> Ah, thank you everyone.  When I used deepburner, at the slowest speed (just in case), the boot up works fine now
[08:34] <dorkface> too bad DaSkreech went to bed, hehe
[08:34] <sub[t] rnl> good to hear dorkface
[08:37] <Knightlust> hi guys, how can i see my sysinfo from konsole.. kinda like doing /sysinfo in konversation
[08:38] <bodly> Sysinfo for 'jirussel-laptop': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2400  @ 1.83GHz at 1000 MHz (3661 bogomips), HD: 54/92GB, RAM: 1820/2017MB, 133 proc's, 12.42h up
[08:39] <stephan_> thx guys, i got it figured out now
[08:39] <truth> Sysinfo for 'kubuntu': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) D CPU 3.20GHz at 3200 MHz (6408 bogomips), HD: 53/109GB, RAM: 318/374MB, 108 proc's, 17.2h up
[08:42] <snowdonkey> Hi.  Does anyone know how to remove the transparent bar in Yakuake?
[08:47] <truth> i have a secondary hard drive that freezez up at 75% when I try to format. What is the cause of that, bad sectors?
[08:47] <nacholibre> buy a new one...
[08:47] <truth> It freezes up the entire system and I have to turn off with the power button.
[08:47] <nacholibre> remove it
[08:48] <truth> No possible way to fix it?
[08:48] <nacholibre> imho:
[08:48] <nacholibre> NO
[08:49] <nacholibre> What do U want to do with the storage?
[08:49] <nacholibre> Save music, films, photos?
[08:49] <truth> yes, use it only as storage
[08:49] <nacholibre> Okay, this isn't a good idea!
[08:50] <nacholibre> Because: I had allready a lot of broken hard disks and always I thought to myself:
[08:50] <nacholibre> It works!
[08:50] <truth> Maybe I could i just use like 70% of it and leave the other part free...
[08:50] <nacholibre> It works
[08:50] <nacholibre> And one day: BANG! All data was out of the range.... . Say goodbye forever!
[08:50] <keith> Excuse me for butting in. Truth, I agree with nacholibre. That drive will fail on you, and it might not give any other warnings. Just "pop", and all your data's gone.
[08:51] <nacholibre> :(
[08:51] <nacholibre> You're welcome keith ;)
[08:51] <truth> yep i know ya'll are right. i'm just being cheap
[08:52] <keith> If you have to use it, put /swap and /tmp on it. Temporary stuff that won't make you sad when the drive dies.
[08:52] <truth> but wtf.... why do drives die like that
[08:52] <nacholibre> I'll wouldn't even use any hardware which is 99,99999 % usefull, because my 20 GB personal lost data was too much... :( And you can be sure:
[08:52] <nacholibre> It's too much!
[08:53] <truth> that 25% dead hd is 200 gb
[08:53] <keith> Truth, I can't tell about your drive. But in the past, I've seen this same problem as a result of a head crash.  Somebody bumped the drive too hard when the heads were at the 75% point, and it scratched the surface.
[08:54] <nacholibre> okay folks, university doesn't wait for me ;( have to go!
[08:54] <nacholibre> CU and think twice truth ;)
[08:54] <nacholibre> bye bye
[08:54] <truth> k. ty nacho. pz
[08:55] <keith> A head crash that doesn't instantly kill the drive still does eventually. The head that crashed won't record or playback as well.   I sure sympathize.
[08:58] <jussi01> Hmmm, anyone got a Logitech MX Revolution mouse? Im thinking of getting one, want to see if it all works in linux etc
[08:59] <keith> And it's my bedtime too.  Good luck, truth.  G'night all!
[08:59] <truth> Anyone know what I can use in place of Motorolla Phone Tools?
[08:59] <truth> c ya keith
[09:00] <Knightlust> truth: kmobiletools, although I haven't tried
[09:01] <truth> !kmobiletools
[09:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmobiletools - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:01] <jussi01> !info kmobiletools
[09:01] <ubotu> kmobiletools: KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 128 kB, installed size 484 kB
[09:02] <truth> showoff :p
[09:03] <truth> oh yea.. i already have that, it doesn't work very well.
[09:04] <jussi01> truth: did you enable the motorola battery feature?
[09:05] <truth> i mean, i got it to work. but it doesnt do file transfers
[09:07] <truth> motorolla phone tools was bangin :) it even had a built in mp3 cropping tool to make custom ringtones
[09:08] <truth> i just found one called moto4lin, i'm about to give it a try.
[09:08] <truth> !moto4win
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moto4win - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <truth> !info moto4win
[09:08] <ubotu> Package moto4win does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:08] <truth> oops
[09:08] <truth> !moto4lin
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moto4lin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <truth> !info moto4lin
[09:09] <ubotu> moto4lin: file manager and seem editor for Motorola phones (like C380/C650). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3+svn20060819-1 (feisty), package size 147 kB, installed size 484 kB
[09:09] <jussi01> !botabuse > truth
[09:13] <matti_> Noo
[09:15] <ville_> ff
[09:32] <viljami> teerwe
[09:33] <viljami> gegguli
[09:33] <viljami> whow
[09:35] <jussi01> viljami: do you need some help?
[09:38] <viljami> no vittu en!
[09:39] <stdin> !fi
[09:39] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[09:58] <truth> hello ppl?
[10:00] <emilsedgh> !hi | truth
[10:00] <ubotu> truth: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:00] <truth> i'm having the hardest time getting a home network setup
[10:02] <ForgeAus> yeah they can be fickle like that
[10:02] <ForgeAus> truth are you using nfs?
[10:02] <truth> nfs?
[10:02] <truth> samba
[10:02] <ForgeAus> ahh ok
[10:03] <truth> i just want to be able to access the files and use the printer thats running on the xp machine
[10:03] <ForgeAus> samba has a config file..
[10:03] <ForgeAus> prolly under /etc/samba/ at a guess...
[10:03] <ForgeAus> I've toyed with it before
[10:03] <truth> yep it is
[10:04] <truth> i opened it earlier, i was reading a response to a similiar problem someone had on a forum
[10:04] <ForgeAus> are you getting an error?
[10:04] <ForgeAus> is it an authentication issue?
[10:04] <truth> server timed out
[10:05] <ForgeAus> you mean the xp machine?
[10:05] <truth> i've never setup a network before... i very well could be doing something wrong
[10:05] <truth> yes, when trying to connect to the xp machine
[10:05] <ForgeAus> well first of all are they on the same network? (physically do they share a lan connection to a central device?)
[10:06] <truth> yes
[10:06] <truth> to a hub
[10:06] <truth> to a router
[10:06] <ForgeAus> ok then check the ip's are tehy in the same range generally X.X.Y.Y where X.X and subnet masks are the same
[10:07] <ForgeAus> doh I gotta go
[10:18] <dorkface> there is a different version of "gksudo" in kde, right?
[10:18] <pag> !kdesu | dorkface
[10:18] <ubotu> dorkface: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[10:19] <dorkface> ah, thank you
[10:19] <emonkey-p> kdesu
[10:21] <ashfaq> Friends, is their a possibility of using voice messenger like yahoo, googletalk in kde
[10:21] <ashfaq> Anything equivavalent willdo
[10:22] <truth> ommfg
[10:23] <[4N93L] > :|
[10:23] <truth> i'm ready to sling this xp machine off my balcony
[10:23] <[4N93L] > lol
[10:23] <[4N93L] > i like xp,but not as much as kubuntu
[10:23] <pag> ashfaq, Kopete supports voicechat for some protocols - not sure which ones though
[10:24] <truth> any idea how to get a home network setup between xp and kubuntu?
[10:24] <[4N93L] > try Remote Desktop Sharing. :\
 procols means, will be able to connect, some one using yahoo, or google using windows
[10:25] <[4N93L] > :|
[10:25] <truth> i dont know where to begin to try that.
[10:26] <rubato> How do I install Japanese Language support for programs like Open Office and Kopete?
[10:26] <[4N93L] > truth, try the program "Krdc" found under "Internet".
[10:27] <pag> ashfaq, pardon? ie. Google talk (or actually xmpp) is a protocoll used for communication - it has many client, like Google Talk, Kopete, Pidgin etc..
[10:28] <german> does anyone know how to donwload mauk from hotmail to thunderbird?
[10:28] <[4N93L] > hmm .. i never tried downloading mail from hotmail to thunderbird. :\
[10:28] <truth> when i hit scan, it doesnt detect anything
[10:29] <se7en^Of^9> german: as fare as i know hotmail doesn't suport pop3
[10:29] <se7en^Of^9> and hotmail sux anyway
[10:29] <[4N93L] > truth: is ur xp connected to the net ?
[10:29] <[4N93L] > se7en: i like hotmail v_v
[10:29] <truth> yes.
[10:30] <german> i found something under adept manager pop3 an smtp to hotmail gateway,
[10:30] <german> if it is lsited in adept, does it mean is sure?
[10:30] <mr_butter> if I wanted to remove a user and all it's settings.  How would I go about it in X ?
[10:31] <truth> on the xp computer i have made the mshome
[10:31] <se7en^Of^9> german: try it ... might work ...
[10:31] <truth> i can go into there, and open up network connections, browse to "entire network" and theres a workgroup named mshome, which reveals  the files i want to share
[10:31] <truth> its hooked up to a hub that goes to a router
[10:32] <truth> both computers are connected to the same hub
[10:32] <Kachna> mr_butter: delete his /home/user dir and delete him in kcontrol or somewhere :)
[10:32] <mr_butter> ty
[10:32] <mr_butter> in would have to do it from root right?
[10:33] <mr_butter> i'm trying to erase my kde account and everything to do with it and start again
[10:33] <mr_butter> i filled it with nonsense
[10:33] <truth> maybe i need to do something to samba.... i have no idea...
[10:33] <rubato> i'm really new, and the tutorials i've looked through were really confusing. I'm running feisty fawn, and I am trying to get Japanese Language support to work in programs like OpenOffice and Kopete. Any suggestions?
[10:34] <se7en^Of^9> truth: you see the shared folder from the linux box?
[10:34] <truth> no
[10:35] <truth> i tried open konqueror and typing smb://ipofothercomputer
[10:35] <truth> it says it timed out
[10:35] <pag> !info openoffice.org-l10n-ja | rubato
[10:35] <ubotu> rubato: openoffice.org-l10n-ja: Japanese language package for OpenOffice.org. In component main, is optional.  I'll try and use the force
[10:36] <mr_butter> is there a way to format it all without removing the OS like a clean sweep?
[10:36] <se7en^Of^9> truth: try smbtree
[10:37] <[4N93L] > Arghhh !! I need help with Java. -_-;
[10:37] <ksivaji> !gnusim8085
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnusim8085 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <truth> yes 4n, i have the ip of it.
[10:38] <[4N93L] > :|
[10:38] <[4N93L] > Wow, was i lagging ?
[10:38] <truth> no no, i was fiddling before i seen it
[10:38] <[4N93L] > oh ><
[10:39] <truth> <[4N93L] > try Krfb, u will get the ip# though both are using the same :\
[10:39] <[4N93L] > How do i install the latest version of Java ?? Anyone able to help ?
[10:39] <ksivaji> is there anyone using opendns in kubuntu
[10:40] <[4N93L] > I installed Java6, but need the "Update 3" and i cant seem to install it. =\
[10:41] <ksivaji> !java
[10:41] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:45] <rubato> ubotu: I'm sorry your response to my question about Japanese was very confusing to me, I am extremely new to this
[10:45] <truth> i'm stumped!
[10:46] <rubato> pag: I'm sorry your response to my question about Japanese was very confusing to me, I am extremely new to this OS
[10:46] <truth> could someone take it from the beginning explaining what steps i should take in setting up a home network
[10:47] <pag> rubato, in other words: just install the package openoffice.org-l10n-ja from Adept, and you should get Japanese support to oo.o
[10:48] <rubato> pag: will this carry over to inputting in Kopete or firefox?
[10:49] <pag> rubato, that'll carry only the language of GUI in OO.o, inputting options shold be changed with keyboard-settings in System Settings
[10:52] <[4N93L] > Grrrrr .. still not working . -_-;
[10:53] <[4N93L] > java's getting on my nerves.
[10:54] <mr_butter> me to
[10:55] <VSpike> This may be a wierd question, but when I'm working on one task, I might end up with a kpdf window, an open office or two, maybe a few firefox pages and so on open, all relating to the task.  Sometimes I may want to put that down and work on it later.  I know I can use desktops to organise things, but they still clutter the task bar.  Is there a way to save and restore a bunch of open windows or documents, sort of like a snapshot or session
[10:55] <VSpike> information?
[10:55] <rubato> thank you pag that seems to have worked
[10:56] <VSpike> I can't even find a way to do that just with firefox - opera used to have a save session option which was quite useful
[11:04] <_aaa> lost passwords can be recovered how?
[11:04] <rohan_> what package does kubuntu use to display OSD when i control volume using volume keys on keyboard ?
[11:31] <ciacon> g'mornin @ all
[11:32] <german> yeeey
[11:32] <german> i got hotmail working with thunderbird
[11:33] <[4N93L] > german: congrats. =]
[11:33] <ciacon> I have a fairly simple q. how can I ajust my refresh-rate of my screen? I have looked through the monitor settings avadible with KDE... 59hz is way to low - i am rather lokking for somthing like 1600x1200 @ 85hz
[11:34] <mr_butter> is there a way to convert a gnome account to kde
[11:34] <mr_butter> useless gnome assaulting my life
[11:34] <mr_butter> ahsdha
[11:34] <rohan> mr_butter: user accounts are the same for gnome and kde
[11:34] <rohan> if you want to install kde, just do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[11:34] <mr_butter> ya but i log onto my root
[11:34] <blendtux> what do you mean working with hotmail german
[11:34] <mr_butter> and it goes to ubuntu
[11:34] <mr_butter> not kubuntu
[11:34] <mr_butter> which is disturbing
[11:35] <mr_butter> apt install hmmm
[11:35] <mr_butter> excellent
[11:35] <[4N93L] > blendtux: german can view his emails found in Hotmail using his/her Thunderbird.
[11:35] <mr_butter> alt space dosen't even work in gnome is there another command for slingshot?
[11:35] <blendtux> oh oke, but can he allso send his email via thunderbird [4N93L]
[11:36] <[4N93L] > blendtux: i hope so. ><
[11:36] <[4N93L] > psh !! how do u ppl type in red?! =_=
[11:37] <blendtux> what do you mean [4N93L]
[11:37] <pag> [4N93L] , it's called highligh - happens, when your nick is mentioned
[11:37] <blendtux> yeah like [4N93L]
[11:37] <blendtux> not with [4N93L
[11:37] <blendtux> blendtur
[11:37] <blendtux> but blendtux
[11:37] <blendtux> ehm
[11:38] <[4N93L] > o0o0o0oh. gracias for the info.
[11:38] <[4N93L] > [\]  bows [\]
[11:38] <pag> blendtux, you can't highlight yourself :)
[11:38] <blendtux> yes i saw that :)
[11:38] <[4N93L] > damn irc, need to work on it more often. :\
[11:39] <utnubuk_> 7.10 and 7.04 install disks dont work, i tried the alternate install disk for 7.04 and it seems to be hanging up....   any ideas???
[11:39] <utnubuk_> tribe 4 worked fine and I want to get my laptop working again
[11:41] <utnubuk_> better yet - does anybody know if I can somehow download tribe 4?
[11:41] <utnubuk_> that would be f'n sweet
[11:42] <utnubuk_> argh.... averatec sucks
[11:42] <utnubuk_> does kubuntu prefer itself to be on the first partition??
[11:43] <utnubuk_> the two question marks means that this is a serious question - three would make it incredibly serious
[11:43] <utnubuk_> four question marks would just be insane
[11:43] <mr_butter> 4 would be ludacris
[11:43] <mr_butter> banned in most countries
[11:43] <utnubuk_> lol
[11:44] <utnubuk_> omg the timer thing just changed over to an arrow, maybe there is hope
[11:44] <mr_butter> ubuntu should install as kubuntu and ubuntu as option.  I can't even function in ubuntu i almost threw my monitor into oblivion and i could. I have spares
[11:45] <mr_butter> is there a way to check your online timer in kde?
[11:45] <mr_butter> konversation i mean sorry
[11:45] <utnubuk_> what you mean by online timer?
[11:45] <utnubuk_> omg the background popped up...
[11:45] <mr_butter> like an irc timer
[11:45] <mr_butter> in konversation saying
[11:45] <utnubuk_> today might turn out to be a good day
[11:45] <mr_butter> you been online for so long
[11:45] <utnubuk_> umm i know theres a way
[11:45] <utnubuk_> hold on
[11:46] <lup0> anyone know about kvpnc usage? Any problems with fields being disabled when they shouldn't be
[11:47] <utnubuk_> did everyone see that?
[11:47] <utnubuk_> if so im sorry
[11:47] <[4N93L] > utnubuk: I didnt
[11:47] <utnubuk_> k good
[11:49] <utnubuk_> mr_butter: do a whois
[11:50] <vbgunz> so Kubuntu 7.10 will have support for printers, even printers that don't have drivers for Linux at all?
[11:50] <mr_butter> well it supports all my hp stuff i didn't have to install anything
[11:50] <mr_butter> i plugged it in and good to go
[11:51] <utnubuk_> I finally got kubuntu running on my machine, but my password is wrong :/
[11:51] <utnubuk_> how could i be so dumb?
[11:51] <vbgunz> mr_butter: ubuntu is great. but I read somewhere ubuntu 10 features in 10 days, printers will just be supported or something to that effect... where can I get more info?
[11:52] <mr_butter> i'm not sure boss i run kubuntu i plugged in my hp scanner and printer and started working it no problem.  Can't say the same for my creative webcam though no juice there
[11:53] <mr_butter> when i went to print it asked which device i want to use and the hp stuff came up right away
[11:53] <mr_butter> it's probably the main reason why i deleted windows
[11:53] <mr_butter> that and the viruses
[11:53] <utnubuk_> i cant remember my password because i'm a tar
[11:53] <utnubuk_> d
[11:53] <Hamra> hello everyone, installed firefox yesterday but its still not working properly, i create a profile when it asks for one, but when i run firefox again, i dont see the profile i created!
[11:53] <vbgunz> I use Kubuntu too. incredibly a printer/scanner in the house keeps us running XP.
[11:54] <mr_butter> hmm what type vb hp?
[11:54] <vbgunz> lexmark
[11:54] <Riddell> ** test final candidate ISOs https://iso.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/build/Kubuntu  on #ubuntu-testing
[11:54] <mr_butter> mine is not a combo i have an old ghetto scanner from 97 that it picks up no sweat
[11:54] <mr_butter> usb cables?
[11:54] <vbgunz> yeah
[11:55] <mr_butter> i'm not quite sure then one of these elite members should be able to help.  So far everything worked plug and play even my Wireless card I plugged it in and right away it detected it.  All old equipment i'm not sure as how to install or where to get drivers for your item what model is that bitch?  I mean printer
[11:55] <mr_butter> or scanner
[11:56] <utnubuk_> AHA! it was my name which i could not remember
[11:56] <mr_butter> rofl
[11:56] <mr_butter> happens to the best of us
[11:56] <mr_butter> even the worst
[11:57] <utnubuk_> on a serious note, my machine is running very slow ... any ideas why?
[11:57] <mr_butter> what kind of box you runnin utnubuk?
[11:57] <utnubuk_> the mouse lags behind by at least a second or so
[11:57] <mr_butter> that would make me snap
[11:57] <emilsedgh> utnubuk_: use top command to see which process is using resources
[11:57] <mr_butter> smash the screen even
[11:58] <emilsedgh> utnubuk_: open kosnole and type top
[11:58] <vbgunz> mr_butter: lexmark 2300, it appears a live cd picks it up on another machine... thats wild, but thats ubuntu... I plan on upgrading to kubuntu, it just might work
[11:58] <utnubuk_> it should have enough horsepower - 1.8 and 512 ram
[11:58] <utnubuk_> ok thanks emilsedgh
[11:58] <mr_butter> kubuntu should work the same no?
[11:58] <mr_butter> aside from it's better than ubuntu hehehhe
[11:58] <mr_butter> hmm
[11:58] <mr_butter> does it say the model when you plug it in?
[11:58] <mr_butter> or when you go to print
[11:58] <mr_butter> ?
[11:59] <mr_butter> or ask even which device to use
[11:59] <mr_butter> utnubuk yea man that's enough juice i'm running a celeron 1ghz with 256mb of ram!
[11:59] <vbgunz> yeah, it finally shows it but trying to print causes a cup error of known format/document something like that
[11:59] <mr_butter> and that rocks
[12:00] <german> could anyone try to play this http://<IP_ADDRESS>:80/bandit/?mswmext=.asf