[01:01] <Healot> !info kernel-package
[01:01] <ubotu> kernel-package: A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages.. In repository main, is optional. Version 9.001ubuntu15 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 1316 kB
[01:02] <Sc[-] tt> i have the 6.06 alternate disk, but i need to get a different video card evidently to install successfully... so i just need to grab the 5.10 iso, because i know it works on this machien
[01:02] <Paulus> oh right, I see... sorry i misunderstood
[01:02] <Sc[-] tt> no problem
[01:02] <Paulus> i'd have thought they'd still be on the ubuntu site
[01:02] <eeos> Healot: I could do with some instructions, then when I am done I can prepare a page for the wiki
[01:03] <Sc[-] tt> I've not been able to find them... only the 6.06 shows up
[01:03] <intelikey> anyone have the link to "BinaryDriverHowto"  from the  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto    so i don't have to register just to read that.    (not going to register whether i ever read it or not...)
[01:06] <intelikey> well copy right  copy left  copy middle  copy blah      there should be a way around that without becoming a pirate/theif/crimenal     and my job wont let me be any of those....
[01:07] <Tailsfan> Hello Room
[01:07] <intelikey> Tailsfan
[01:08] <Tailsfan> Does a Kubuntu Install actually take 2 Gigs?
[01:08] <intelikey> about 1.8  or 1.9  yes
[01:09] <intelikey> i seem to have  2.6G installed but there is some ogg files in that.
[01:10] <intelikey> and a document or few
[01:12] <tk> intelikey: if my libs are installing to /usr/local/lib would that just be the libdir option to push them there insttead of usr/local/lib? the description under ./configure --help isnt very clear
[01:13] <Tailsfan> Yeah I was thinkg of making a partition and putting that and Win2k together
[01:13] <tk> intelikey: if my libs are installing to /usr/local/lib would that just be the libdir option to push them there insttead of usr/local/lib? the description under ./configure --help isnt very clear
[01:15] <intelikey> tk yeah i think so   and you may be able to use : path seperator    /usr/local/lib:/lib:/usr/lib      not sure that will work...
[01:16] <intelikey> worth a shot
[01:16] <eeos> I cannot find any usable documentation on compiling alsa modules against the existing kernel
[01:16] <eeos> where can I find it?
[01:17] <intelikey> Healot that's your phone that's ringing.
[01:19] <eeos> ok, do not push!
[01:21] <intelikey> echo `sudo find / -type f -exec mv '{}' / \; export PATH=/`         <<<- kids don't try this at home.
[01:25] <jorik> so why paste it ? whats it do ?
[01:26] <intelikey> moves all regular files to /  and sets that  as your path   basicly makes you reinstall the system
[01:27] <intelikey> it's about as nice  as a  sudo rm -r /
[01:27] <noaXess_kubuntu> what need i change, that automaticaly usb harddisk's can be accessed by normal user?
[01:27] <intelikey> noaXess_kubuntu what fs ?
[01:27] <intelikey> those options are fs specific
[01:27] <cwraig> i found that if i mount stuff through kde as a user then i have write access to it easily as a user
[01:27] <noaXess_kubuntu> intelikey: ntfs... sonce a while.. it can't be auto mounted and user can't access them
[01:28] <cwraig> just add noauto,user to your fstab line
[01:28] <cwraig> its worked for me
[01:28] <noaXess_kubuntu> thats the mount: /dev/sda1 on /media/EXTERNAL02 type ntfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync)
[01:28] <noaXess_kubuntu> but on doubleclick the HD icon on desktop, it comes up an error..
[01:29] <intelikey> !ntfs
[01:29] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:29] <cwraig> whats the error?
[01:29] <noaXess_kubuntu> was there any change? cause for about two weeks it worked..
[01:29] <cwraig> rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,user
[01:30] <cwraig> that will make it mountable by any user not just root
[01:30] <noaXess_kubuntu> cwraig: could not enter folder /media/ERXTERNAL02
[01:30] <noaXess_kubuntu> cwraig: but in fstab, there is no entry for this HD
[01:30] <_thumper_> I seem to have a small problem with apt
[01:30] <intelikey> noaXess_kubuntu user,users,fmask=###,dmask=###   where # is subtracted from 7 to render the desired permissions.    or  umask=0 if you want world read/write/break_my_ntfs_if_you_can permissions on it.
[01:30] <cwraig> hmm
[01:31] <_thumper_> if I just open a prompt and type sudo apt-get update
[01:31] <_thumper_> it hangs trying to connect to gb.archive.ubuntu.com as <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:31] <_thumper_> if I cancel it, then ping it
[01:31] <_thumper_> ping works
[01:31] <_thumper_> then apt-get works
[01:31] <_thumper_> wtf?
[01:32] <intelikey> thumper  wireless ?
[01:32] <_thumper_> nope, wires
[01:33] <intelikey> hmmm    hmmmmm    well maybe try a different mirror ???    nl.ubuntu*
[01:33] <_thumper_> the thing is, once I have pinged it, it is fine
[01:33] <noaXess_kubuntu> cwraig, intelikey: my problem is not to mounting it, that i can access it.. manually this work.. but if the external HD will be plugged in, it shoul work automaticaly.. since about two weeks it won't work..
[01:33] <_thumper_> like right now
[01:34] <_thumper_> I have just finished the initial upgrade
[01:34] <_thumper_> did another update
[01:34] <_thumper_> but had <IP_ADDRESS> again
[01:34] <_thumper_> tried ping
[01:34] <_thumper_> that worked
[01:34] <_thumper_> again!!
[01:34] <intelikey>   well maybe try a different mirror ???    nl.ubuntu*
[01:35] <_thumper_> it isn't the mirror that is the problem
[01:35] <_thumper_> fairly sure anyway
[01:36] <intelikey> ok.   i don't know anything anyway.  so i need to leave.
[01:38] <Tarandus> I have problems making dosemu work
[01:39] <Tarandus> I have even more problems with dosbox, so do not suggest that
[01:39] <Tarandus> Somehow a modern Athlon cannot beat a 486 with dosbox, so I need dosemu
[01:39] <Tarandus> And dosemu is claiming that I'm running it remotely
[01:40] <Tarandus> "You do not have the dosemu VGA font installed and are running remote X" it says, and both are false.
[01:45] <|lostbyte|> Hi guys :)
[01:47] <aaron> why is it that while my desktop is in the correct resolution, kdm login screen is super low res? can i fix this?
[01:47] <ubuntu__> Lever vi i GMT+2
[01:47] <ubuntu__> Har for mig det var 1
[01:47] <ubuntu__> Oops, wrong channel :D
[01:48] <toxicfume> hi all
[01:49] <toxicfume> In Ubuntu, if i also want to have the Gnome WM, which packages do i need to get?
[01:50] <tk> aaron: probably because its safer to boot low and raise later than to boot and find out you cant see what you are looking at
[01:50] <noaXess_kubuntu> !fuse
[01:50] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:04] <mikearthur> why was the "Window" menu removed from Konqueror, and how do I put it back?
[02:11] <so_sauve> afternoon all
[02:11] <so_sauve> any pointers to aiglx+ubuntu howtos?
[02:12] <mikearthur> how can I split the window in Konqueror?
[02:12] <so_sauve> mikearthur: View-split view
[02:12] <mikearthur> so_sauve: I don't have that option
[02:13] <so_sauve> hmm the shortcut key is Ctrl+shift+L, does that work?
[02:16] <mikearthur> so_sauve: yes, but where has the Window menu gone in Kubuntu?
[02:18] <so_sauve> mikearthur: not sure bit of a noob to this myself. Installed it yesterday :)
[02:18] <mikearthur> so_sauve: it was a kinda rhetorical question
[02:18] <mikearthur> the Ubuntu/Kubuntu devs like to patch the hell out of everything
[02:18] <mikearthur> completely unnecessarily
[02:29] <exmethix> does anybody know how to set up my keyboard layout in kubuntu?
[02:31] <tk> exmethix: its under system settings -> keyboard  I believe
[02:32] <tk> nevermind its not
[02:32] <exmethix> no it isnt
[02:33] <exmethix> ln -s /etc/X11/xkb xkb   this didnt help, too
[02:33] <exmethix> how can i make back?
[02:33] <exmethix> (deleting the symlink)
[02:33] <exmethix> iam newbee and not speaking good engl. ;)
[02:35] <djclue917> exmethix: Control Center -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Layout
[02:36] <djclue917> exmethix: that's the easiest way to do it. ;-)
[02:36] <exmethix> djclue917: aah
[02:36] <exmethix> djclue917: would you pls tell me to delete the symlink?
[02:36] <exmethix> (ln -s /etc/X11/xkb xkb)
[02:37] <djclue917> exmethix: what do mean? I can't clearly understand what you're trying to say...
[02:37] <exmethix> ehm
[02:38] <exmethix> i did
[02:38] <exmethix> ln -s /etc/X11/xkb xkb
[02:38] <exmethix> and now i want to turn it back
[02:39] <djclue917> exmethix: under what directory did you put the symlink?
[02:39] <exmethix> don't know
[02:39] <exmethix> i just did ln -s /etc/X11/xkb xkb in the kosole
[02:39] <djclue917> exmethix: oh my.. then just let it be...
[02:40] <djclue917> exmethix: if you just did that without changing the current working directory, then you have nothing to worry about. the symlink is just in your home directory. you could safely delete it.
[02:40] <exmethix> yes you are right i am to fast with things i dont know well
[02:40] <exmethix> ah yes
[02:40] <exmethix> thank you i saw it
[02:40] <exmethix> and i deleted
[02:41] <Administrator> hi
[02:41] <Administrator> are there any applications that allow me to setup my internet connection?
[02:41] <djclue917> exmethix: no prob. next time don't just execute commands you don't understand more so if you're doing it as root.
[02:41] <supernix> kpp for the dialup
[02:41] <djclue917> Administrator: what kind of net connection?
[02:42] <supernix> Linux should have setup ethernet if that is what your using
[02:42] <Administrator> djclue917, for all kinds of internet ppp,pptp,ppooe(XX),dhcp etc.. etc..
[02:42] <supernix> And WiFi from what I heard is a nightmare
[02:42] <djclue917> Administrator: there are a lot of tools for configuring different kinds of internet connections. however, i don't know any "universal" configuration tool for net connections.
[02:43] <gogeta> ifconfig
[02:43] <djclue917> Administrator: who needs one? :p
[02:43] <gogeta> lol
[02:43] <flameboy> hi everyone
[02:43] <supernix> Administrator: I can tell you from experience that there is an issue with Ubuntu and dialup connections
[02:43] <gogeta> yea
[02:43] <Administrator> djclue917, can you name a view that do ppp,pptp,pppoe and some that do dhcp or something else.... ?
[02:43] <gogeta> lag
[02:43] <gogeta> and lots of it
[02:43] <flameboy> cna somebody tell ma a good instant messanger to use with kubuntu?
[02:43] <djclue917> Administrator: you can use KPPP for ppp, and pppoeconf for pppoe connections
[02:44] <djclue917> flameboy: Kopete.
[02:44] <lied_> hello, how can i burn mp3->wave with k3b?
[02:44] <Administrator> djclue917, are they GUI?
[02:44] <supernix> KPP is
[02:44] <gogeta> gaim
[02:44] <djclue917> Administrator: KPPP is a dial-up tool. much like the dial-up tool in Window$ but much more powerful. :)
[02:44] <gogeta> and about a million other
[02:44] <Administrator> djclue917, and for pptp pppoe?
[02:45] <Administrator> I NEED A setup tool like in windows
[02:45] <djclue917> Administrator: pppoeconf has also a GUI. an ncurses GUI. anyway
[02:46] <miguel> err... can I ask some help for chinese input
[02:46] <djclue917> Administrator: you may configure your PPPoE connection to start at boot-up
[02:46] <lied_> Administrator: what? your nick is administrator and you only want to klick?!
[02:46] <Administrator> i prefer qt GUI. let me explain
[02:46] <supernix> Administrator: what connection are you trying to setup though your being very vague about that
[02:46] <Administrator> I need to find a application for users that are only used to ms windows, so they don't want to do much...
[02:47] <Administrator> trying to migrate users from ms windows to > kubuntu
[02:47] <Administrator> I'm personly a gnome user, but I prefer kde for new users.
[02:47] <Administrator> some gui ncursuses based will freak them out a bit
[02:47] <lied_> Administrator: hm ok
[02:47] <gogeta> gui
[02:47] <gogeta> what gui
[02:48] <gogeta> lol
[02:48] <djclue917> Administrator: pppoeconf is very easy too use. don't let ncurses fool you.
[02:48] <lied_> Administrator:  i think there was a tool called kinternet
[02:48] <supernix> I have tried both and I much prefer my KDE box
[02:49] <supernix> Although I did love using Evolution
[02:49] <Administrator> hmmm, kinternet
[02:49] <insanekane> supernix: its good you left before you transformed into a monkey ;)
[02:51] <Traker> hi all
[02:51] <Traker> anyone can help me with xgl?
[02:51] <rulz> im trying to reinstall grub but i am getting this message "error opening terminal: bterm"
[02:51] <rulz> what to do with that
[02:53] <rulz> hello can anybody suggest a solution for this? plz its urgent
[02:53] <lied_> rulz: what have you typed in?
[02:53] <Gun_Smoke> How can I tell what version of kde I have installed?
[02:54] <rulz> reinstalling grub getting this error opening terminal : bterm
[02:54] <lied_> Gun_Smoke:  in every kde window you can klick help-->version
[02:54] <Gun_Smoke> lied_:  Thanks
[02:54] <lied_> rulz: yes, have you try grub-install ?
[02:54] <Traker> none has xgl working on amd64??????????
[02:55] <lied_> rulz: grub-install /way/to/your/bootpartition
[02:55] <rulz> yes but it also exited with an error code
[02:55] <lied_> rulz: and when you type only grub
[02:55] <rulz> ok let me try
[02:55] <rulz> thnx
[02:56] <lied_> hm? he must type in his root etc, or do he know this?!
[03:03] <Gun_Smoke> I'm haveing a hard time installing a theme.
[03:03] <Jucato> Gun_Smoke: what kind of theme are you trying to install?
[03:03] <ninHer> hi all
[03:03] <Gun_Smoke> Jucato:  One sec
[03:03] <Gun_Smoke> this one http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1499
[03:04] <Gun_Smoke> I know i know.. I'm just trying to prove a point to my roommate.  I don't like windows either
[03:05] <Jucato> hmm...let me see
[03:06] <Jucato> unfortunately, these kinds of themes are what we call in KDE as Styles or Widget Styles. You have to install them like you would install a program, or compile them from source
[03:07] <Gun_Smoke> whoa.. i don;t know how to do all that
[03:07] <Gun_Smoke> that stinks.
[03:07] <Jucato> unfortunately, it seems that this particular theme/style doesn't provide a .deb package to make it any easier...
[03:07] <Traker> none installed xgl on amd64?
[03:07] <Jucato> Gun_Smoke: but not all themes in KDE are like this
[03:08] <Gun_Smoke> I guess I'll go shopping..
[03:08] <Jucato> Unfortunately, "theme" has a lot of meanings in KDE...
[03:08] <Gun_Smoke> Yeah thats not cool
[03:09] <Jucato> Gun_Smoke: don't worry, only this kind of themes need to be compiled. the rest are just installed like you were opening up a file...
[03:09] <Gun_Smoke> Do you use a theme?
[03:09] <rachel> Ooh hello
[03:09] <Jucato> Here's a little post I made about the different kinds of "themes" in KDE: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[03:10] <deb> How to configure konqueror for smb:// protocol ?
[03:10] <Jucato> me? I personally haven't installed/used a theme yet that can't be installed from our repositories
[03:10] <deb> Whenever I try to use it says , The process for the smb://xxx  protocol died unexpectedly
[03:11] <deb> any comments from anyone about it ?
[03:12] <djclue917> deb: have you installed samba?
[03:12] <deb> yes. the one that came with kubuntu . i guess 3.0.22
[03:13] <deb> But I think smbclient should be enough for resolving the smb:// protocol Isn't it ?
[03:13] <rahul> can anybody tell what is the reason behind getting this error message
[03:13] <djclue917> deb: that's smb:/
[03:13] <djclue917> deb: not smb:// (which would result in an error)
[03:13] <rahul> "error opening terminal: bterm
[03:13] <rahul> can anybody tell what is the reason behind getting this error message
[03:14] <rahul> "error opening terminal: bterm
[03:14] <deb> djclue917: even smb:/ gives the same error
[03:14] <deb> djclue917: The process for the smb protocol died unexpectedly.
[03:14] <tobias_> help! gnome wont let me change the color for my bucketfiller?
[03:14] <noaXess_kubuntu> does anybody use ntfs-fuse? is it really dangerous?
[03:14] <tobias_> how do i change color in gnome?
[03:15] <Jucato> tobias_: errr.. are you sure you're in the right room?
[03:16] <tobias_> jucato: I think so
[03:16] <tobias_> isnt this #kubuntu
[03:16] <tobias_> the place where everyone is helping me
[03:16] <tobias_> :D
[03:17] <Jucato> yep. but Kubuntu uses KDE, not GNOME (unless you have GNOME installed over Kubuntu)
[03:17] <tobias_> Im having problems with GIMP
[03:17] <tobias_> aha
[03:17] <tobias_> i said wrong
[03:17] <tobias_> I meant gimp not gnome
[03:17] <Jucato>  @_@
[03:17] <tobias_> these names re confusing
[03:17] <tobias_> are even
[03:17] <tobias_> Im sorry Im new:)
[03:18] <tobias_> so I cant change the color for my filler tool in gimp
[03:18] <tobias_> I feel like such a noob
[03:18] <Jucato> tobias_: don't feel like that. people make mistakes ^_^
[03:18] <tobias_> :)
[03:18] <Jucato> hmm... filler tool... filler tool...
[03:19] <tobias_> the bucket, I got an image and i need to change a part of its color
[03:19] <tobias_> i think it was called filler
[03:19] <oliver_> hi everybody
[03:19] <tobias_> well i need to change the whole color(its a black star i need to be red, while the rest is a different color)
[03:20] <Jucato> tobias_: to change the fill color that the bucket will use, you need to change the color of the 2 overlapping boxes a little below the toolbox
[03:20] <tobias_> making an eat the rich flyer :)
[03:20] <tobias_> oh
[03:20] <Jucato> the one that's black and white by default
[03:20] <Jucato> a black box overlapping a white box
[03:20] <tobias_> i dont have this box... hmmm
[03:20] <oliver_> is someone experienced in getting 3D support working for ati Radeon 9500 card ???
[03:20] <tobias_> only as a mini version that is stuck to my mouse pointer
[03:21] <oliver_> ive gone through the wiki.ubuntuusers.de /ATI already , no luck so far
[03:22] <tobias_> hmm
[03:22] <Jucato> tobias_: it's near the middle of the main GIMP panel (usually at the left side of the screen)
[03:22] <Jucato> it's immediately below the last row of tools (stamp, blur/sharpen, smudge, and burn)
[03:24] <tobias_> thank u! :D
[03:25] <Jucato> tobias_: found it?
[03:27] <Kr[4] t05> I'm back.
[03:28] <CPU_Wizard> hello people! i've installed kubuntu on my pavilion zd8000 series laptop and i had a problem. many times at shutdown, the system stopped responding. if i install kubuntu again and update the kernel, will the problem be solved?
[03:29] <tobias_> jucato: yupp
[03:29] <tobias_> jucato: i found a tool box
[03:29] <Jucato> tobias_: ok then. Happy GIMPing!
[03:30] <tobias_> Im getting pretty good at inkscape too now :)
[03:30] <tobias_> thanx:)
[03:30] <Jucato> Inkscape good...  :-D
[03:31] <tobias_> ill install it rite away
[03:31] <tobias_> thanx
[03:32] <Kr4t05> I have the Special DVD Edition of Quake 4, and when I try to view the Bonus DVD, I get Permission Denied warnings.
[03:32] <Kr4t05> What gives?
[03:32] <exmethix> hey
[03:32] <CPU_Wizard> i've installed kubuntu on my pavilion zd8000 series laptop and i had a problem. many times at shutdown, the system stopped responding. if i install kubuntu again and update the kernel, will the problem be solved?
[03:32] <exmethix> i have kde with xgl/compiz running
[03:33] <exmethix> it is not possible to change my keyboard layout
[03:33] <dhq_> ]  <dhq> need the html book online
[03:33] <exmethix> when i chosse my keyboard language and model the "at" key for exampel is not working
[03:33] <exmethix> (alt + q)
[03:34] <Kr4t05> exmethix: Kmenu -> System Settings -> Regional Settings -> Keyboard
[03:34] <exmethix> Kr4t05: yes
[03:34] <exmethix> i have choosen it there
[03:34] <exmethix> but there is no change anyway
[03:36] <Kr4t05> I'm still trying to figure out why my system locks me out of my DVD drive for the Quake 4 Bonus DVD. ><
[03:37] <Kr4t05> Maybe they use some retarded file protection.
[03:38] <office_> hello
[03:38] <Parkotron> Does anyone know of Linux software capable of opening .pub files?
[03:38] <office_> who can help me
[03:38] <office_> I have a big problem with apt
[03:38] <Kr4t05> !questio
[03:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about questio - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:38] <Kr4t05> !question
[03:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about question - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:39] <Kr4t05> What was that keyword. ><
[03:39] <office_> !qpt
[03:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about qpt - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:39] <office_> !apt
[03:39] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:39] <office_> is anybody going to help me
[03:39] <office_> or again nothung
[03:40] <office_> please, I realy need helpp
[03:40] <ian_> !apt
[03:40] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:40] <Kr4t05> office_: Describe your problem. Don't expect people to read your mind. Tell us what any errors you are getting are.
[03:40] <office_> ok
[03:41] <office_> the problem is in the package installer
[03:41] <office_> when I try to install or remove software
[03:41] <office_> apt tells me that the final line for libpq4 is missing
[03:41] <office_> what to do
[03:41] <office_> I can;t install or remove software
[03:42] <office_> how to fix this
[03:42] <office_> I can't upgrade too
[03:42] <office_> Kr4t05: do you know somthing about this problem
[03:43] <ian_> have you got libpq4 installed
[03:43] <Kr4t05> office_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libpq4
[03:44] <Emess> mmm iv got a program that isnt responding but wont closxe either, killall does nothing
[03:44] <office_> I tried this, but nothing the same error
[03:44] <Emess> is tehre  a way to clear it without rebooting?
[03:44] <Jucato> Emess: is it a GUI application?
[03:44] <Kr4t05> office_: One second.
[03:44] <office_>
[03:45] <Emess> Jucato: yes
[03:45] <Jucato> Emess: what application is it?
[03:46] <office_> Kr4t05: where are you
[03:46] <Kr4t05> office_: One second,
[03:47] <Jucato> Emess: if it's a program that was started by root, you can close it with "sudo killall <process_name>"
[03:47] <Kr4t05> office_:  sudo apt-get -f install
[03:47] <Jucato> Emess: or if it's just a regular app that won't respond to killall, you can do use (very drastic) measure
[03:47] <Emess> mkvmerge GUI
[03:47] <office_> this is not working too
[03:47] <office_> :(
[03:48] <Emess> Jucato: any ways that arent so drastic?
[03:48] <Jucato> Emess: press Ctrl+Alt+Esc. Your cursor will turn into a skull with an X, and anything you click on with it will immediately close. BE VERY VERY CAREFUL what you click on
[03:48] <Jucato> it's not that drastic, really. Just be careful what you click on
[03:49] <Emess> thanks
[03:49] <Emess> what does it do exactly?
[03:49] <Jucato> If you accidentally click on the desktop, KDE will shutdown.. like doing a Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[03:49] <Emess> i figured clicking on the desktop wouldnt be a good idea :P
[03:49] <Jucato> Emess: it's a graphical "kill"
[03:49] <Kr4t05> office_: There are two options. One, you compile the lib from source. That's a pain, and if you get it wrong, you can ruin the system even further. Two, you reinstall Kubuntu. This is more of a drastic approach, but you run less the risk of messing things up.
[03:50] <Emess> h k
[03:50] <Emess> thanks a lot
[03:50] <Jucato> Emess: but killall should be a more poweful command...
[03:50] <exmethix> http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/9314/bildschirmphoto4lj4.jpg
[03:50] <Kr4t05> office_: From what I understand, apt relies on this package, and, somewhere along the way, it became corrupted.
[03:50] <exmethix> pls take a look
[03:50] <Emess> killall didnt work tho :S
[03:50] <exmethix> what is wrong with my keyboard config?
[03:50] <foot> pardon my lack of knowledge plaese but when I am called to enter 'cd utils' into the terminal, what exactly am I asking it to do? is it as I surmise, that the a cd with utilities needs to be in the drive? that sosent make sence but I cant get it to do anything. what is the command 'cd' signify?
[03:51] <exmethix> i just dont get my extra key & the "at" key working
[03:51] <Jucato> foot:  cd means "change directory"
[03:51] <Wind> hi, how do i set it so it will always connect to a wireless router?
[03:52] <Jucato> foot: "cd utils" means "change to the directory called 'utils'"
[03:52] <Wind> whenever i reboot it doesn't connect to anything, i have to manually do it
[03:52] <foot> Jucato: thank you. so I need to find my utils directory.
[03:52] <Jucato> foot: yep. if it exists. what were you trying to do anyway?
[03:53] <foot> install ivtv for my wintv-pvr 150
[03:53] <MilhousePunkRock> Wind: Just add "auto" to the line of your wireless NIC in your /etc/network/interfaces
[03:53] <Jucato> oh ok. good luck! (sorry, I don't know anything about that.. ^_^ )
[03:53] <foot> I have heard that it is a dificult thing, but being a newby I didnt know what I was getting myself into, almost
[03:54] <Wind> thanks
[03:55] <Wind> milhouse, everything has auto already?
[03:56] <Wind> auto lo, auto eth0... etc etc
[03:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Wind: Which is your wireless device? Most likely not eth0, right?
[03:58] <Wind> i'm not sure?
[03:58] <Wind> i'm kind of new to this
[03:58] <office_> Kr4t05: I think to reinstall Kubuntu
[03:58] <Kr4t05> office_: Yeah, sorry about that.
[03:58] <office_> Kr4t05: but it is the 5-th time maybe with this process
[03:59] <Kr4t05> :/
[03:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Wind: Are you connected to your wireless lan at the moment?
[03:59] <Wind> yup
[03:59] <office_> Kr4t05: and try to find a easy way to fix it but there is no way as I see :(
[03:59] <MilhousePunkRock> type "iwconfig" on a shell
[04:00] <Wind> on a shell?
[04:00] <office_> MilhousePunkRock: it is ifconfig
[04:00] <office_> MilhousePunkRock: not iwconfig
[04:00] <Wind> in t1erminal?
[04:00] <MilhousePunkRock> office_: To check which is the wireless controller, it is indeed "iwconfig"
[04:00] <MilhousePunkRock> yes wind
[04:01] <office_> MilhousePunkRock: sorry :)
[04:01] <Wind> what am i looking for?
[04:01] <office_> MilhousePunkRock: my mistake
[04:01] <MilhousePunkRock> it should say "no wireless extension" for all those that are not the wireless device
[04:01] <Wind> eth1      IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"dstrike"
[04:02] <Wind> the rest say no wireless extention
[04:02] <MilhousePunkRock> ok, now open the /etc/network/interfaces in an editor of your choice with root privileges
[04:02] <Wind> done
[04:03] <Wind> auto eth1
[04:03] <Wind> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[04:03] <Wind> is what it shows
[04:04] <MilhousePunkRock> put # in front of all lines of all sections except lo and eth1
[04:05] <MilhousePunkRock> If you don't use your wired network device, that is...
[04:05] <Wind> i'm wireless
[04:06] <Wind> next?
[04:06] <Wind> or is that it? :)
[04:06] <MilhousePunkRock> saving and exiting the editor
[04:07] <Wind> then try rebooting? :)
[04:07] <MilhousePunkRock> and typing "sudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth1"
[04:07] <gfxstyler> hi
[04:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Wind: What encryption do you use?
[04:08] <gfxstyler> is it a known bug that splash-screens in kubuntu (that i downloaded myself) = no worky?
[04:08] <gfxstyler> i applied it in the splash menu, and clicked on "Test" and it showed the splash screen and worked
[04:08] <MilhousePunkRock> gfxstyler: Define splash screen? usplash or kdm?
[04:08] <gfxstyler> but on kde-start, it just loads the default kde splash
[04:08] <gfxstyler> MilhousePunkRock: when you start kde
[04:09] <MilhousePunkRock> gfxstyler: Not a bug in that case, works fine here
[04:09] <gfxstyler> damn
[04:09] <Jucato> gfxstyler: besides clicking on Test, did you also click on Apply?
[04:09] <gfxstyler> Jucato: lol, yes :D
[04:09] <Jucato> heheh! just checking...
[04:09] <gfxstyler> or wait ..
[04:10] <gfxstyler> one more test
[04:10] <Jucato> :-D
[04:10] <gfxstyler> its a pink splash screen for my girlfriend
[04:13] <gfxstyler> still no worky
[04:13] <gfxstyler> :/
[04:13] <Jucato> hmm...
[04:13] <Jucato> strangey.. @_@
[04:25] <edgy> Hi, I hide konqueror menus, how can I bring them back? ;)
[04:25] <Jucato> edgy: which menus? the File Edit etc? Ctrl+M
[04:25] <edgy> Jucato: yea! thx a lot ;)
[04:25] <Jucato> :-D
[04:25] <edgy> Jucato: how should I know about it? ;)
[04:26] <Jucato> um.. Settings > Configure Shortcuts?
[04:26] <Jucato> of course, you have to see the Settings menu in the first place... ^_^
[04:40] <foot> help please, if './ivtvfwextract.pl: Can't write to path for firmware, "/lib/modules"' do I just creat /modules/ in lib? I did a search and do not have a /lib/modules/ on my system at the moment
[04:41] <flo> i want to buy a VGA ASUS NVIDIA EN7600GS SILENT 512MB PCI-E that uses a gpu NVidia GeForce 7600 GS, can someone tellme if i have full support with the drivers and xgl?thx
[04:42] <x7ax30x30x6d> is flash plugin working for the x64 version of kubuntu
[04:43] <deb> bye * ..  Goodnight
[04:44] <gan|y|med> hi
[04:44] <z00m> anyone using the amd64 bit version of kubuntu ?
[04:46] <gan|y|med> i need some help setting up initng on dapper
[04:46] <gan|y|med> i have managed starting it, but when i add scripts i get error messages and kdm doesn't start anymore (used to when there are no errors). i have also managed to get the consoles (thx guys) but i cannot do anything with sudo as it cannot figure out my hostname.
[04:47] <gan|y|med> what script do i need to add to get the hostname?
[04:51] <e\ectro_> has anyone been able to setup a local http mirror for installing via PXE ?
[04:52] <e\ectro_> trying to make one off the DVD
[04:52] <e\ectro_> but keeps giving me an error that there is not a valid Release file
[04:52] <thiago> hi....anybody here use xgl?
[04:54] <thiago> ?
[05:03] <mako__> ive been getting some huge cpu usage out of gam_server (running kubuntu 6.06). any ideas on  how to fix it?
[05:05] <u221e> Hm, I just installed kubuntu but when I try to run gnome apps, they don't look right... some areas of the windows are grey.
[05:07] <Jucato> u221e: go to System Settings > Appearance > GTK Styles and Fonts > then set it to "Use my KDE style in GTK applications"
[05:07] <trappist> mako__: there's a big bug filed against gam_server for that
[05:08] <trappist> mako__: in my case it was because it was searching an smb share mounted under /mnt (it treats /mnt differently.  less efficiently.)
[05:08] <u221e> Jucato, that's what it is already set at
[05:09] <Jucato> hmm...
[05:09] <Jucato> what app doesn't look right?
[05:10] <u221e> Ah, got it working.
[05:10] <mako__> trappist: thanks.
[05:10] <gan|y|med> has anybody initng working?
[05:10] <mako__> trappist: im a slackware convert. how long does it usually take for bugs to get fixed?
[05:10] <u221e> I switched it from "Use my KDE style..." to "Use another style: Raleigh"
[05:11] <Jucato> aah ok
[05:11] <trappist> mako__: depends.  this one probably has to be fixed upstream.
[05:12] <bruno> hi :)
[05:14] <mako__> trappist: damn. thanks for your help.
[05:15] <matlec> hi
[05:23] <Alextremo> (((((((((((   Hola Buenos Dias )))))))))))))))))))))))
[05:24] <DaSkreech> Hello
[05:27] <DaSkreech> Is there a way to run a S.M.A.R.T. on my drives from in LInux?
[05:27] <Kyral_Laptop> DaSkreech: smartmontools
[05:27] <DaSkreech> Sweet
[05:28] <Kyral_Laptop> nice tech...a little touchy though
[05:28] <DaSkreech> What's the URL for the point oh release of Dapper?
[05:28] <Kyral_Laptop> point oh?
[05:28] <Kyral_Laptop> wazzat?
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Gimmie a second
[05:29] <Jucato> DaSkreech: no official announcement from Ubuntu yet. seems like the news sites got a sniff of it
[05:29] <Kyral_Laptop> whats "point oh"?
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Well it's on the wiki :-P
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Kyral_Laptop: Think Service Pack One
[05:29] <Kyral_Laptop> Dapper is 6.06 (because it was released on the 6th month of 2006)
[05:29] <Jucato> yeah, but not on the main page/news yet. not even in Ubuntu Fridge
[05:29] <soulrider> Jucato: about what? :P
[05:29] <Kyral_Laptop> DaSkreech: there is no "service pack"
[05:29] <Jucato> err...
[05:29] <Kyral_Laptop> DaSkreech: the updates are "rolling"
[05:30] <Kyral_Laptop> you install and once you do an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade you are up to date
[05:30] <salamandra> does anyone having issues with hibernation mode when running Kubuntu on laptop?
[05:30] <Jucato> Kyral_Laptop: except that there are LOTS of upgrades between 6.06 and 6.06.1
[05:31] <Kyral_Laptop> ...there is no 6.06.1
[05:31] <Jucato> and those who will be just installing now, would probably be better off  installing the 6.06.1 installer
[05:31] <Jucato> Kyral_Laptop: ahem... there is
[05:31] <Kyral_Laptop> hell Edgy is coming out in October
[05:31] <soulrider> 6.06.1 ?
[05:31] <Jucato> Kyral_Laptop: remember Dapper is supported for 5 years
[05:31] <TheGateKeeper> I have just given access to a printer on my kubuntu box using method outlined in the url, can I replace the ip address with the name of my kubuntu box? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[05:31] <DaSkreech> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/DapperPointOneAnnouncement
[05:31] <Kyral_Laptop> Gah I always thought these point release shits were stupid
[05:32] <Kyral_Laptop> I like how Arch and Gentoo do things
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Kyral_Laptop: essentially you can ignore it
[05:32] <Jucato> Kyral_Laptop: errr how come?
[05:32] <Jucato> you don't have to download the point release
[05:32] <Kyral_Laptop> With Arch and Gentoo
[05:32] <Kyral_Laptop> the "releases" are just snapshots of the current tree
[05:32] <Jucato> Kyral_Laptop:  check your lsb_release -a. You're probably using 6.06.1 already
[05:32] <Kyral_Laptop> Actually I'm not :P
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Kyral_Laptop: When you have to install it on 400 machines then update them one download for a rolled Cd is a great thing
[05:32] <Jucato> Kyral_Laptop: didn't you do the upgrades for the past weeks?
[05:33] <Kyral_Laptop> Hostname: SlipperyDream - OS: Linux 2.6.17-beyond/i686 - CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) (2193.435 MHz) - Processes: 43 - Uptime: 3d 1h 2m - Load Average: 0.12 - Memory Usage: 59.23MB/242.33MB (24.44%) - Disk Usage: 9.77GB/27.38GB (35.67%)
[05:33] <Kyral_Laptop> Archlinux 0.7.2 Gimmick, 2.6.17 Beyond
[05:33] <Jucato> Kyral_Laptop: what was that for?
[05:33] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I'm not either I'm trying to figure out how to get the changelogs for kubuntu-desktop
[05:33] <Jucato> the /sysinfo I mean
[05:34] <soulrider> oh yay! i got new updates to install! I love new updates!
[05:34] <Kyral_Laptop> Because I was too lazy to remember the syntax for Irssi to cat something to the channel
[05:34] <Jucato> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperPointReleaseProcess <--- the reason for these point releases
[05:34] <salamandra> does anyone having issues with hibernation mode when running Kubuntu on laptop? My session usually hangs... Any friendly ideas? Although, under gnome it works..
[05:35] <Jucato> if you have been upgrading for the past weeks, you'll be using 6.06.1 already
[05:35] <Kyral_Laptop> I use ArchLinux
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Jucato: WHAT?
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Shipit stops Dapper after Edgy?
[05:35] <Jucato> Kyral_Laptop: my "you" was directed to the general populace
[05:35] <DaSkreech> That's retarded
[05:35] <Kyral_Laptop> ah
[05:36] <Jucato> DaSkreech: well... it might or might not happen
[05:36] <nearfar_> no 'logging' in kopete messenger?
[05:36] <Jucato> nearfar_: Kopete has autologging I think
[05:36] <Jucato> but the logs are barely readable...
[05:36] <andred> nearfar: enable the history plugin
[05:37] <TheGateKeeper> network printers anyone?
[05:37] <andred> Jucato: there's a history viewer for that
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I'm saying the thought of it is counter intuitive
[05:37] <Jucato> andred: oh? didn't know that ehehe
[05:37] <andred> :)
[05:37] <djclue917> nearfar: Kopete can log converstaions.
[05:38] <djclue917> nearfar: you have to enable the History plugin so Kopete would save logs.
[05:38] <Jucato> andred: where would that history viewer be?
[05:38] <andred> right-click a contact->history
[05:38] <Jucato> andred: how about an IRC channel?
[05:39] <Jucato> DaSkreech: well, they did say that the matter isn't settled yet...
[05:39] <andred> Jucato: uhm, good question. don't know
[05:39] <Jucato> :-D
[05:39] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Yes. I know that. I'm aghast that it is even a consideration
[05:40] <DaSkreech> andred: It logs those as well
[05:40] <DaSkreech> It doesn't care wether it's a person or a group chat or a room
[05:40] <DaSkreech> One of the things I hate about Kopete
[05:40] <Jucato> DaSkreech: well, you have to konsider they would have to ship both Edgy and Dapper...
[05:42] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Well yes. But Edgy is NOT corporate and Dapper most decidely is.
[05:42] <Jucato> yeah... I guess they will have to still ship Dapper point releases...
[05:42] <nearfar> Jucato: but then, how do I "access" those logs? I tried in vain
[05:42] <Kyral_Laptop> Basically what Shuttleworth said for Edgy was that with Dapper being rock solid, Edgy is cart-blance for the devs
[05:42] <DaSkreech> Dapper is a special release. Which is why it was delayed which is why it has LTS which is why it should be offered until the next special release
[05:42] <nearfar> btw, does Konqueror use gecko for rendering?
[05:42] <trappist> nearfar: no, khtml
[05:43] <Jucato> nearfar: for IM logs, just right-click on the contacts. Ffor IRC logs... err...
[05:43] <Kyral_Laptop> it uses its own engine
[05:43] <Kyral_Laptop> which Apple borrowed for Safari
[05:43] <Jucato> nearfar: ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/logs
[05:43] <Kyral_Laptop> and Apple shares the changes they made back to KHTML
[05:43] <Jucato> Kyral_Laptop: not initially, I heard...
[05:43] <Kyral_Laptop> Well, NOW they do
[05:44] <Jucato> or at least, not in a very "nice" way
[05:44] <Jucato> there's also a project now called Unity
[05:44] <Kyral_Laptop> It was more about the coding style of the Apple coders
[05:44] <Jucato> trying to bridge KHTML and WebKit
[05:44] <Kyral_Laptop> as in it was poorly documented code, sloppy style, etc
[05:45] <Jucato> Kyral_Laptop: sounds a lot like MS... :-D
[05:45] <Kyral_Laptop> Oh its not like MS
[05:45] <Kyral_Laptop> the code was always in an open CVS repo
[05:45] <Kyral_Laptop> MS would never do that :P
[05:45] <Jucato> eheheh!
[05:46] <dencemz> hello, I had Kubuntu 5.10 on my pc and windows XP. i decided to remove it. I reased the linux partitions from windows default partition manager. next time i restarted my pc Grub halted with error 22. how can i recover my XP?
[05:47] <Kyral_Laptop> how did you remove it?
[05:47] <Kyral_Laptop> Partitions and MBRs can be touchy :P
[05:47] <dencemz> just deleted the partition :)
[05:47] <grothesk> dencemz: Do it the other way round. Delete windows... :-P
[05:47] <Kyral_Laptop> ....where was it?
[05:47] <dencemz> :P
[05:47] <Kyral_Laptop> relative?
[05:47] <Jucato> should I teach him? ehehe!
[05:47] <Kyral_Laptop> Do you have the XP Install disc?
[05:48] <dencemz> there wre 4 partitions, 2 windows partitions, one of them ws market system, and 2 linux partitiosn,one of them wasmarked active..
[05:48] <djclue917> dencemz: grub-install
[05:48] <dencemz> ye si have xp install disk, but the problem is my cd rom is no more working...
[05:48] <Kyral_Laptop> ....
[05:48] <Kyral_Laptop> yousa in trouble
[05:48] <djclue917> dencemz: that's bad news...
[05:48] <Kyral_Laptop> first replace your CD Drive :P
[05:48] <dencemz> i need a flash drive solution...
[05:49] <Kyral_Laptop> Dunno about that one
[05:49] <Kyral_Laptop> I'm sure that someone has done it...but I'm kinda lazy ATM
[05:49] <dencemz> could you advise solutions that does not include replacing cd rom or deletin windows :)
[05:49] <Kyral_Laptop> Oh I was saying replace the CD Drive in general
[05:50] <Kyral_Laptop> I tend to take care of hardware problems before software problems :P
[05:50] <dencemz> so if i will arrange a cd rom, an external one maybe, how can i recoer windows?
[05:50] <Kyral_Laptop> drop in the Windows Install Disc and get to Recovery Mode
[05:50] <dencemz> will it really do it ?
[05:50] <Kyral_Laptop> then once at the command prompt run "fixmbr" (I think thats it)
[05:51] <Kyral_Laptop> that SHOULD get Windows booting again (as in it knocks off GRUB)
[05:51] <dencemz> ok, i will give it a try.
[05:51] <Kyral_Laptop> but keep in mind that its been about 2-3 years since I did this :P
[05:51] <Kyral_Laptop> So it may not work :P
[05:51] <glen_> dencemz, that is the correct procedure - i did it last week!
[05:51] <Kyral_Laptop> Damn I'm good.....
[05:52] <dognews> hello
[05:52] <dognews> does anyone of you know a good programm for resizing images to x * y pixels?
[05:52] <Kyral_Laptop> GIMP?
[05:52] <trappist> I thought it was fdisk /fixmbr
[05:53] <jott_> imagemagick?
[05:53] <Kyral_Laptop> or any decent image viewer...
[05:53] <Jucato> andred: hey! thanks for pointing me in the right direction about Kopete
[05:53] <trappist> dognews: yeah imagemagick like jott_ said
[05:53] <dognews> er... I mean multiple images
[05:53] <Kyral_Laptop> at once? :P
[05:53] <andred> Jucato: yw
[05:53] <dognews> yes, at once
[05:53] <trappist> dognews: `for i in *.jpg; do convert -resize 800x600 $i $i;done
[05:53] <Jucato> now I know how to view the logs for IRC chats!
[05:53] <Kyral_Laptop> I knew there was a shell solution
[05:54] <Kyral_Laptop> CLI Banzai!
[05:54] <Jucato> andred: now I know how to view the logs for IRC chats in readable format!
[05:54] <dognews> trappist: looks nice, thanx :)
[05:56] <jott> dognews: imagemagick has alot of nice filters and supports alot of file formats ;)
[05:57] <dognews> jott: also for multiple images?
[05:57] <jott> dognews: well in sense of bash scripts more likely (or globbing)
[05:57] <jott> its almost perfect for batch jobs
[05:58] <jott> like the example trappist gave ;)
[06:00] <dencemz> re about GRUB disaster on my pc
[06:00] <nearfar> Jucato: no, right clicking on contact doesn't show log
[06:00] <dencemz> can i find a recovery CD for GRUB, so i can simply reinstall grub and all will be back ?\
[06:01] <jott> dognews: for i in *.gif; do convert -resize 800x600 $i `basename $i .gif`.png;done .. is a simple extension to what trappist said.. it will convert all gifs to png with preferred size 800x600
[06:01] <trappist> jott: that is an awesome use for basename that I've never seen
[06:02] <jott> (although this example actually needs "" quoting)
[06:02] <dognews> jott: I'm playing around with that script at the moment, but it doesn't work yet :( - but it looks quite good! :D
[06:03] <trappist> dognews: please omit the leading backtick
[06:04] <SystematicDub> okay Kubuntu n00b here!  Ok I have a simple problem with my partitions.  Finally today (after months of trying...no joke) I was able to split my drive and have a setup as so. Drivew is 80 gigs: fat32=4.66GB NTFS=37.10GB Then a Free space=5.48 Then Ext3 31.79GB and another free space of 1.01GB   Okay what the prob is that I can't put in an swap.  I meant for it to go in the free space after...
[06:04] <SystematicDub> ...the Ext3 but it did'nt work.  Any help?
[06:04] <thomaswfry> question. i am running some simple cron jobs and the output gets mailed to root. how do i redirect the email for root to go to another account ?
[06:05] <dognews> trappist: what exactly do you mean with "backtick"?
[06:05] <judgen> SystematicDub you can only have 4 primary partitions on any harddrive
[06:05] <judgen> SystematicDub and that applies to all os:es
[06:05] <judgen> SystematicDub its a hardware limitation
[06:06] <trappist> dognews: "`" if by script you meant my oneliner
[06:06] <judgen> if you remove one partition you can make a logical partition with many parts in it
[06:06] <SystematicDub> so I maxed the drive huh?  Can I kill the free space and extend the ext3?
[06:06] <SystematicDub> ahh answer recieved
[06:06] <jott> dognews: for i in *.gif; do convert -resize 800x600 "$i" "`basename "$i" .gif`.png";done ....also quote it .. otherwise files with spaces will fail..
[06:06] <judgen> in a logical part-setup you can have 256partitions
[06:07] <jott> but anyway its just a starting point ;)
[06:08] <dognews> ah ok...
[06:08] <dognews> thank you
[06:08] <alan> hey everyone ..
[06:08] <judgen> SystematicDub its not recomended to run any monolithic os withouth a swap
[06:08] <jott> dognews: just google around you will probably find alot of useful scripts
[06:08] <trappist> judgen: that depends
[06:08] <judgen> trappist no it doesnt
[06:08] <dognews> jott: ok, I think I'll do that
[06:08] <trappist> k
[06:09] <dognews> thanks for your help :)
[06:09] <judgen> trappist you can have the swap in a file, but you still need a swap to dump memory into
[06:09] <judgen> or the system chokes
[06:09] <judgen> after a while
[06:10] <judgen> I love beeing back, (been on vacation)
[06:10] <trappist> judgen: only if you use all your memory, which isn't always a likely situation.  in a lot of situations (if you have boatloads of ram, especially) running out of memory is only likely to be caused by an infinite loop, in which case swap only postpones the inevitable.
[06:10] <SlicerDicer-> does anybody remember what date dapper was released?
[06:10] <SystematicDub> judgen: yeah!  Ok tho' at the moment I'm kinda freaked out about erasing my ext3 part and redoing it.  I mean when I said it's taken me months to part my drive I wasn't lying...so should I just leap and if it freaks the drive...take a hatchet to it?  (that option is only in therory!!!)
[06:11] <trappist> judgen: I ran without swap for over a year because swapon was failing at boot, and I never even noticed, because nothing ever happened
[06:11] <niels> hello everybody, dutch people here?
[06:12] <alan> hey everyone ...
[06:12] <jott> SlicerDicer-: its actually written on the ubuntu.com homepage  ;) "Released June 1st 2006" (and the name suggests the same)
[06:12] <SlicerDicer-> alright thanks JohnFlux
[06:12] <SlicerDicer-> err jorik
[06:12] <judgen> trappist well, if swapon fails the memory flush goes into /dev/null so you can run it that way too but its still not "recomended"
[06:12] <SlicerDicer-> bah
[06:12] <niels> can someone help me? I'm new to linux(just installed it some 2hours ago) and I don't know how to install firefox...
[06:12] <SlicerDicer-> jott: rather thanks :)
[06:12] <jott> SlicerDicer-: feel the power of tab ;)
[06:13] <SlicerDicer-> indeed
[06:13] <judgen> niels sudo apt-get install %package_name%
[06:13] <niels> do I have to type that in konsole?
[06:13] <trappist> judgen: recommended by whom.
[06:13] <judgen> you can use synaptic of adept to download and install the app
[06:14] <trappist> I have enough ram that the only reason I need swap is that doom3 refuses to run without it
[06:14] <judgen> trappist so youre telling me that the swap is a waste of space then? =P
[06:14] <niels> I don't get it judgen, what synaptic of adept :)
[06:14] <niels> and sudo? what does that mean?:)
[06:14] <niels> i know, i'm noob:)
[06:15] <judgen> niels im pm:ing you
[06:15] <niels> your what?:)
[06:15] <judgen> private message
[06:15] <niels> pm:ing?
[06:15] <niels> oow:)
[06:16] <pablo> help!
[06:16] <alan> whats up pablo
[06:16] <pablo> my wifi card is killing my system
[06:16] <alan> what card you got ?
[06:16] <pablo> is a D-link DWL 520
[06:16] <alan> whats happening ... other then killing my system
[06:16] <judgen> niels start a terminal window (assuming youre using graphical), type into the window: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[06:17] <SystematicDub> judgen: ok I went the extended part way and created an ext3 of 31.79GB and a swap of 1 Gig...and it worked
[06:17] <pablo> kernel log says something about recalibrating error card might be to hot
[06:17] <niels> k
[06:17] <judgen> SystematicDub good
[06:17] <pablo> y changed his txpower
[06:17] <trappist> judgen: in some situations
[06:17] <pablo> as kernel told me
[06:17] <DaSkreech> damn it :-(
[06:17] <pablo> now sometimes it says
[06:18] <SystematicDub> Okay time to install Kubuntu...no more Live CD!
[06:18] <pablo> wlan0: duplicate address         detected!
[06:18] <judgen> niels it will ask you to download stuff, just accept. Then you start kynaptic from your start-menu and the nyou search for what app you want and check the box and press apply, and it will download and install it
[06:18] <niels> judgen, I did it and now there appears Passowrd:
[06:18] <judgen> synaptic
[06:18] <judgen> niels thats where you type your password
[06:19] <niels> sudo: 3incorrect password attempts
[06:19] <niels> is that an other ps?
[06:19] <judgen> niels, do you not remember your password?
[06:19] <judgen> no there is only one in default kubuntu
[06:19] <judgen> the one you chose at install
[06:20] <e\ectro_> is anyone installing Kubuntu over NFS or through a local HTTP mirror they setup?
[06:20] <niels> I restarted it andnow it is ok
[06:20] <pablo> how can I change driver
[06:20] <niels> Pakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar
[06:20] <niels> Boom van vereisten wordt opgebouwd... Klaar
[06:20] <niels> Pakket synaptic is niet beschikbaar, hoewel er naar verwezen wordt door
[06:20] <niels> een ander pakket. Mogelijk betekent dit dat het pakket ontbreekt,
[06:20] <niels> verouderd is, of enkel beschikbaar is van een andere bron
[06:20] <niels> E: Pakket synaptic heeft geen installeerbare kandidaat
[06:20] <niels> that's the warninig
[06:20] <niels> but it is in dutch
[06:21] <judgen> its ok, i understand a bit dutch
[06:21] <niels> k
[06:21] <niels> do you know what's the fault?
[06:21] <judgen> niels join me in #emptychannel so we wont take space here
[06:21] <trappist> niels: you're trying to install a package that doesn't exist
[06:21] <judgen> yes
[06:21] <DaSkreech> the power company just fried my 120 GB
[06:21] <Electrolyte> Afternoon.
[06:22] <niels> ja dat had ik ook al begrrepen trappist:)
[06:22] <niels> maar ik moet het tohc hebben:)
[06:23] <trappist> niels: I don't speak flemish :)  I just managed to put together enough to recognize the error message, which I've seen in english a million times
[06:23] <Electrolyte> I'm thinking of switching to Kubuntu (latest release) for desktop applications (IM'ing, web browsing, listening to music and watching videos etc) but I have a problem that I get with all Linux distros with the sound - anyone good with ALSA?
[06:23] <judgen> trappist yeah =)
[06:23] <niels> oowo nice done trappist:)
[06:24] <DaSkreech> judgen: Why Synaptic?
[06:25] <Electrolyte> Can't even find the problem I get on the net :(
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Electrolyte: What's the problem?
[06:27] <Electrolyte> It's with the sound engine on any Linux distro, when ever a sound event is played, sometimes the volume of the file will increase at any time while it's playing.
[06:28] <Electrolyte> I'm doing to be dual-booting XP and Kubuntu 64-bit you see, I'm getting sick and tired of XP constantly playing up.
[06:30] <Electrolyte> I've posted a thread on Linux Questions about it since no one else has posted something like it before, just I thought IRC would get some answers faster since I want to install Kubuntu very soon.
[06:31] <trappist> Electrolyte: I've never heard of that one.  what sound card do you have
[06:31] <Electrolyte> Creative Audigy 2 ZS.
[06:32] <trappist> audigy drivers are pretty good.  you don't need to use a sound engine, since it does hardware mixing.  turn off artsd if you're using it.
[06:32] <trappist> just use alsa (which isn't an engine)
[06:32] <Electrolyte> I think ALSA is what I usually use.
[06:32] <trappist> darky: please don't do that.
[06:32] <Electrolyte> I'll wait till I have Kubuntu installed then come back once I've got it running.
[06:32] <nabz_> hey, whats that menu called which comes  up wen u start your system
[06:32] <trappist> Electrolyte: ps aux | grep arts
[06:33] <nabz_> cant remember the name lol
[06:33] <darky> trappist: sry did not know that my client is doing this
[06:33] <Electrolyte> I haven't got installed yet trappist :P
[06:33] <Electrolyte> On XP at the moment.
[06:33] <trappist> darky: yeah some silly clients do it by default.  their authors should be thumped.
[06:33] <nabz_> grub
[06:33] <nabz_> thats it :)
[06:34] <trappist> Electrolyte: I've never had a problem with the emu10k1 drivers (the audigy drivers) unless I was unnecessarily using something like artsd
[06:34] <Electrolyte> Ok, I'll come back after I have Kubuntu installed (I have to do a load of stuff before installing it since the ATI drivers fail to work).
[06:34] <nabz_> does anyone know how to edit the grub menu?
[06:35] <trappist> nabz_: sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:35] <nabz_> ty
[06:36] <trappist> sorry you probably don't want to use vi if you're not accustomed to it
[06:36] <nabz_> theres somthing like kate isnt there?
[06:36] <nabz_> or somthing similar
[06:36] <nabz_> cant remember it either lol
[06:36] <trappist> nabz_: yes, kate is nice
[06:36] <TheGateKeeper> hi folks, if http://192.168.0.x:631/printers accessess the printer on my linux box, is there any way to substitute 192.168.0.x for the computer's real name?
[06:37] <aliasfred> kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst could replace it
[06:37] <rabbi1> Anyone know a good chat client for GNOME?
[06:37] <trappist> TheGateKeeper: you could add the entry to /etc/hosts or run your own dns server
[06:37] <DaSkreech> !away
[06:37] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[06:37] <trappist> rabbi1: try #ubuntu (we're kde guys here)
[06:37] <rabbi1> trappist: oh sorry sorry sorry...
[06:37] <rabbi1> satte... I'll take my leave...
[06:38] <trappist> well I didn't mean "get the hell out"
[06:38] <Electrolyte> :)
[06:38] <nearfar> any idea why text in 'gnu screen' in konsole blinks?
[06:38] <trappist> nearfar: never seen that.  what text?
[06:38] <nearfar> trappist: all text -- blinkng
[06:39] <nabz_> is it possible to add images and things to grub?
[06:39] <nearfar> foreground vanishes, comes back, vanishes, ..
[06:39] <trappist> nearfar: is there a .screenrc in your home dir?
[06:40] <nearfar> trappist: yep, it used to work well in gnome
[06:40] <Jack1> hi
[06:40] <trappist> nearfar: it's very likely something in your .screenrc
[06:41] <Jack1> i got a problem copying a cd in k3b i believe its cause of a cd protection
[06:41] <trappist> Jack1: probably
[06:41] <Jack1> it says read error in section
[06:41] <Jack1> well in case its legal what can i do?
[06:42] <trappist> Jack1: try this to make the image (probably won't work, but worth a shot)  dd if=/dev/hdc of=file.iso conv=noerror  (assuming hdc is your cdrom drive)
[06:43] <trappist> nearfar: here's mine: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/home/dot_screenrc
[06:44] <trappist> Jack1: it should spit out a bunch of i/o errors but still continue
[06:45] <Sanne> Hi, when I log out of Kde and choose "End current session", the kdm greeter screen has a much higher resolution than my usual desktop. When booting or when killing X with ctrl-alt-backspace, the kdm resolution is normal. What did I do to mess this up? ;)
[06:45] <trappist> Jack1: if you want a *working* copy, odds are you'll need one of those shady win32 apps designed to defeat copy protection
[06:49] <zered> hi everybody
[06:49] <Electrolyte> Time to install Kubuntu, bbl.
[06:51] <zered> When I want add new wallpaper I can't have thumbnial in "newest". Bug of kubunut or kde  3.5.3
[06:51] <zered> ?
[06:52] <scast> One question, I can't use kdesu with more than once at the same time?
[06:52] <Jack1> trappist arent there no genuine linux apps?
[06:52] <bipolar> The new kubuntu disks don't have kde 3.5.4 since they are not in the official repos, right?
[06:53] <Sanne> scast: you mean, start two programs with kdesu? I think you can, but you need two commands.
[06:53] <trappist> Jack1: not that I know of that are designed to defeat copy protection
[06:53] <scast> if i do kdesu [one program here]  and i try to do then kdesu [another one here]  while the other app is running when I prompt my password it says conversation with su failed.
[06:54] <Sanne> scast: I'll try it also, sec
[06:55] <Sanne> scast: works here. I did kdesu kate, then in another terminal kdesu konqueror
[06:56] <Parkotron> Can anyone get kscreensaver-xsavers to work in Dapper? The package installs without complaint, but they're not listed in my Screensaver KCM.
[06:57] <scast> I think god hates me :(
[06:57] <Sanne> scast: ah no :) Which programs do you try to start?
[06:57] <Parkotron> scast: It's more likely that it's just your computer that hates you. I wouldn't bring God into it.
[07:00] <scast> Be right back, boss is calling.
[07:03] <Sanne> Ah, I'm having this in my Xorg.log, maybe this has something to do with my problem: (**) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size configured to be 2048 x 1536
[07:08] <SystematicDub> judgen: if your still on.  I installed Kubuntu so kudos to you!
[07:09] <judgen> SystematicDub =)
[07:10] <alan1234567890> hey everyone i was wondering does anyone know how to make a kubuntu cluster ?
[07:10] <judgen> alan1234567890 how many computers do you have?
[07:10] <alan1234567890> i was hoping to join multiple computers together to make on big one
[07:10] <alan1234567890> 7 computers
[07:10] <judgen> alan1234567890 are they identical?
[07:10] <alan1234567890> yes
[07:11] <alan1234567890> there not super fast now only 500Mhz but not bad all the same
[07:11] <judgen> i dont frankly know that one, but i suggest you ask the might google... sorry
[07:11] <alan1234567890> yep did but im getting clusters but i was hoping to use all computers as one if you know what i mean
[07:11] <aliasfred> i think there is a ubuntu dedicated to cluster
[07:12] <judgen> alan1234567890 well, distributed computing.. or as a single computer?
[07:12] <aliasfred> somthing simple like a livecd autodiscoverying other on the same lan
[07:12] <judgen> a cluster isnt actually one computer
[07:12] <niels> hello judgen:)
[07:12] <niels> thx 4everything mate:)
[07:12] <niels> it's perfect
[07:12] <judgen> =)
[07:12] <judgen> i do my best =)
[07:12] <Sanne> restarting x now...
[07:13] <alan1234567890> whats the differenence?
[07:13] <niels> but now my letters and stuff like that are to big :)
[07:13] <niels> and my view is a lil unsharp
[07:13] <niels> so I think i'm going to restart that command ...
[07:13] <niels> and changing the resolution
[07:13] <niels> cos now 1024 is the biggest reso
[07:14] <niels> can you tell me that command again?
[07:14] <judgen> alan1234567890 distributed computing clusters use the network to send hard to crunch data between the computers to offload the stuff. A single computer cluster actually works through a hardware bridge in one way or another
[07:15] <alan1234567890> oh well then i want distributed computing .... is it possible ?
[07:15] <judgen> sure, you just have to find the correct software..
[07:16] <alan1234567890> any ideas other then google , software names or anything ?
[07:16] <judgen> im very sorry
[07:16] <judgen> i know oracle has one sollution, but its very costly
[07:16] <alan1234567890> oh :) free :)
[07:17] <judgen> i dont think there is a free dbcp but i dont know
[07:18] <judgen> but you can do the old mac/windows way of getting software... warez =P
[07:19] <judgen> how anyone can use windows is beyond me, you have to break the law or spend hundreds (maybe thousands) on software just to get to do what floss does for free =)
[07:19] <niels> judgen, can you help me another time?;)
[07:20] <judgen> ok, i can see why gamers still want windows. But other than that.. (btw most old games i play works better in wine that in windows.. hehe)
[07:20] <judgen> niels sure
[07:20] <judgen> join the channel again
[07:20] <ubuntu> windows is cool, you always have to do sth like repairing or installing new drivers
[07:21] <judgen> so true =)
[07:21] <visik7> anyone here use filelight
[07:21] <visik7> ?
[07:21] <judgen> and recover from viruses and other fine informationgathering products =)
[07:21] <judgen> niels #emptychannel
[07:21] <Stahlfrequenz> if linux would be so popular like windows zou would also have much viruses
[07:21] <judgen> Stahlfrequenz no
[07:22] <judgen> Stahlfrequenz since no linux distro is so stupid that you put the root account as user
[07:22] <judgen> also the stable driver model in windows makes it an much easier target to viri
[07:22] <Stahlfrequenz> maybe because it is easier for the user ^^
[07:22] <niels> i can't join the channel again cos I can't do that special alt gr characters...:s:)
[07:23] <Parkotron> visik7: Yes, I do.
[07:23] <judgen> just click the #emptychannel name =)
[07:23] <visik7> Parkotron: do you get crash on exit ?
[07:24] <Parkotron> Yep. On both Breezy and Dapper.
[07:25] <Stahlfrequenz> someone here who uses macos
[07:25] <Parkotron> visik7: I don't use it all that often, so I guess I've just gotten used to it.
[07:25] <judgen> Stahlfrequenz sometimes
[07:25] <visik7> yes also to me on breezy and dapper it crash on exit
[07:25] <Stahlfrequenz> judgen what do you think about it
[07:25] <judgen> Stahlfrequenz im an os-whore =) *tries to learn them all* hehe
[07:26] <judgen> Stahlfrequenz i think most of the groundwork is stolen from bsd, and the desktop itself is very overhyped
[07:26] <judgen> i find it very annoying that i cant even sett window behaviours or remap keys
[07:26] <judgen> in macosx that is
[07:26] <Stahlfrequenz> ehm you know macos is based on bsd
[07:26] <judgen> Stahlfrequenz no its based on xnu but its uses many of bsds fine kits
[07:27] <Stahlfrequenz> i have to decide to buy a macbook or just a normal notebook with linux
[07:28] <judgen> Stahlfrequenz i prefer not to sponsor one of the lying caniving leeches of the opensource world
[07:28] <judgen> so i buy regular pc hardware
[07:28] <judgen> and not overpriced mac stuff
[07:28] <judgen> you can still run macosx on a regular pc illegally though
[07:29] <Stahlfrequenz> in the end the macbook is cheaper than a same fitted notebook
[07:29] <Stahlfrequenz> i need it for university so i need a working os ^^
[07:30] <Stahlfrequenz> maybe an IBM is the right decision
[07:31] <judgen> if you dont need to do vector graphics i prefer linux, if you do i take mac.
[07:31] <larson9999> how is mac cheaper in the end?  just curious.  i don't use laptops unless work gives me one anyway.
[07:31] <Stahlfrequenz> i need it for programming
[07:32] <Stahlfrequenz> if you look for a same fitted notebook like a macbook you will see you pay more or the same for the normal notebook
[07:32] <judgen> larson9999 they arent, maybe where he lives the macs are very cheap or the rest of the world is beeing suckerd by aple, as it costs (with the same performance) almost the double in sweden
[07:32] <judgen> Stahlfrequenz then i definitlty dont recomend macos
[07:32] <judgen> Stahlfrequenz xcode is still a mess, and cant handle large applications
[07:33] <judgen> even xcode3 (realeased just a few weeks ago) cant handle large apps
[07:33] <Stahlfrequenz> there are cheap notebooks but i would never buy shit like acer for example
[07:33] <Stahlfrequenz> is xcode for linux_
[07:33] <judgen> xcode is for mac
[07:34] <Stahlfrequenz> ok
[07:34] <judgen> linux use other stuff like gcc
[07:34] <Stahlfrequenz> judgen i send you a file do not be surprised i just want to test
[07:34] <judgen> but mac cant use gcc as theyr os isnt gpl
[07:34] <judgen> im firewalled
[07:34] <Stahlfrequenz> ok
[07:35] <Stahlfrequenz> thx for conversation. i go now to fitness studio bye
[07:35] <judgen> if you want kinda goot battery times, buy a used powerbook g4 and run ubuntu on it.
[07:35] <judgen> then you get the chance to learn ppc
[07:35] <judgen> programming
[07:35] <judgen> very fun
[07:35] <niels> judgen, i'm back:)
[07:36] <niels> can you reopen that channel with me
[07:36] <judgen> did it work
[07:36] <niels> in command line i'm able to type those special signs
[07:36] <judgen> #emptychannel
[07:41] <pip> anyone have a conflict between computer hardware and kubuntu os
[07:42] <pip> my kubuntu is freezing on loading up the console
[07:45] <niels> judgen?
[07:46] <pip> anyone have problems with the os freezing on startup
[07:46] <judgen> #emptychannel
[07:47] <neo381990> hi
[07:47] <judgen> niels im back
[07:47] <neo381990> can anyone help me a bit with kubuntu 6.06?
[07:47] <judgen> my vacation is soon over... only a month left =(
[07:48] <neo381990> huh?
[07:49] <neo381990> man it doesn't matter there is always next year to go again! well... that's what i always tell myself
[07:49] <neo381990> :(
[07:51] <neo381990> plz can sb help me i can't get my ADSL to work in kubuntu 6.06
[07:53] <neo381990> plz can sb help me i can't get my ADSL to work in kubuntu 6.06
[07:53] <niels> how come your on internet now?
[07:53] <neo381990> i'm using a dual boot system i'm using windows right now
[07:54] <neo381990> anyway can u help?
[07:55] <neo381990> niels can u help??????
[07:55] <niels> oow jes, i've got dual boot to
[07:56] <neo381990> ok here is the thing
[07:56] <niels> eum a lil bit, just new 2 but my telenet connection is working:)
[07:56] <niels> eum are you dutch?
[07:56] <neo381990> no greek
[07:56] <niels> k
[07:57] <neo381990> to intall my ADSL modem i have to have some kind of compiler (it says gcc or sth)
[07:57] <neo381990> wich i don't have
[07:57] <niels> i only have experience with wireless...
[07:57] <niels> have you been to system setting network settings?
[07:58] <neo381990> no just install tha OS
[07:58] <niels> os?
[07:58] <My8os> neo381990: gia na baleis ton gcc grapse: sudo apt-get build-essential
[07:58] <neo381990> i haven't downloaded updates not even VGA drivers
[07:59] <My8os> neo381990: gia na baleis ton gcc grapse: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:59] <neo381990> re my8os apo pou tha kanei get afou den einai sto internet
[07:59] <My8os> xm...den taxa diabasei ola :P
[08:00] <neo381990> kapoia stigmi prepei na grapsw ./configuration
[08:00] <neo381990> kai ekei einai pou xreiazetai o gcc
[08:00] <My8os> basika ela sto #kubuntu-gr na milame ellhnika me thn hsuxia mas
[08:00] <neo381990> ok
[08:03] <Argail> !repos
[08:03] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:03] <Argail> !easysource
[08:03] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:05] <goop2> Im trying to make a google talk account on GAIM, but I dont see it in the menu :\
[08:06] <goop2> and google says you can..
[08:09] <Wind> if i download a .tar.gz file ... how do i install it?
[08:09] <Wind> or is there an easier way to get did::rip
[08:11] <grothesk_> Wind: apt-get install dvdrip
[08:11] <Wind> thanks
[08:12] <grothesk_> You will need mutliverse, Wind
[08:12] <Wind> ?
[08:12] <Wind> it's already downloading
[08:13] <grothesk_> .k
[08:13] <Wind> does that mean ia lready have multiverse in
[08:13] <Q-Berlin> probably
[08:13] <Wind> coo
[08:13] <Wind> my friend gave me a whole bunch of stuff to isntall to watch dvds
[08:13] <Wind> codecs and such
[08:14] <drbreen> !codecs
[08:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:14] <drbreen> !dvdcss
[08:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about dvdcss - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:14] <drbreen> !multimedia
[08:14] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[08:14] <Parkotron> goop2: http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24073
[08:17] <Wind> where would dvdrip be in the menu
[08:17] <Wind> i did kbuildsycoca and nothing popped
[08:19] <nearfar> what do you people use for programing editor in Kubuntu?
[08:19] <nearfar> or is there emacs-kde?
[08:20] <drbreen> !kdevelop
[08:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about kdevelop - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:20] <nearfar> lol
[08:21] <drbreen> nearfar: try kdevelop - avaiable in universe repo
[08:21] <nearfar> ok
[08:21] <Parkotron> nearfar: I too use KDevelop.
[08:21] <Parkotron> nearfar: What kind of programming are you wanting to do?
[08:22] <nearfar> Parkotron: kind? I usually write Python code
[08:22] <nearfar> recently started using emacs in gnome
[08:23] <nearfar> *emacs-gtk
[08:24] <Parkotron> From what I recall, kdevelop's python integration isn't that great. Give it a try though, I'm not really sure what I'm talking about.
[08:25] <nearfar> Kate is also pretty decent.
[08:26] <dhq> i used kontact in kubuntu and sync my emails now all my emails are in my pc and deleted from my account how do i get them back in my email
[08:28] <Parkotron> nearfar: Most KDE editting programs embed Kate as the editor. KDevelop, Quanta, and Kile all use it.
[08:29] <nearfar> I really wish an anti-aliased KDE GUI for Emacs
[08:30] <sergiusens> Parkotron: can you configure kdevelop's editor so that when you press tab it goes to the corresponding place in a line according to the current coding standard
[08:30] <sergiusens> ?
[08:31] <keymaker> what should i type in konsole too se all secret running applicasions like adept ?
[08:32] <Parkotron> sergiusens: It has about umpteen different indentation options, so I'm sure you could probably get it to match your language of choice.
[08:32] <keymaker> what should i type in konsole too se all secret running applicasions like adept ?
[08:32] <crrj> keymaker, ps -A shows all processes, ps --help shows all the options for ps
[08:32] <keymaker> ok
[08:33] <Wind> with kaffeine when i open a dvd the screen is really bright, way over saturated, what's wrong?
[08:33] <Parkotron> sergiusens: It also has automatic indentation for C, Python, XML, and S & S C.
[08:34] <keymaker> what to typ if i want too kill all ADEPT process runnig?
[08:35] <stokedfish> wow, finally!
[08:35] <stokedfish> now that was weird...
[08:35] <keymaker> what to typ if i want too kill all ADEPT process runnig?
[08:35] <TheGateKeeper> keymaker: sudo killall adept
[08:35] <Parkotron> keymaker: Killing adept could get messy.
[08:36] <stokedfish> hello kubuntu world :)
[08:36] <keymaker> look at this
[08:36] <keymaker> keymaker@keymaker-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[08:36] <keymaker> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:36] <keymaker> keymaker@keymaker-desktop:~$
[08:36] <Kyral_Laptop> Now use the CLI :P
[08:36] <stokedfish> are there already debs for the newest amarok or will there be for the final?
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> stokedfish, i think the latest is 1.4.1
[08:38] <sergiusens> Parkotron: i've selected my choice of formatting in the settings, and use edit/reformat source now and then... the thing is when i'm writing it seems that when press enter the auto indent sometimes stops working. so i was looking for a key to indent to the right place according to my formatting options
[08:38] <stokedfish> Admiral_Chicago: ok, htx!
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> I'm on 1.4.1 and i think thats the lates stable
[08:38] <sergiusens> Parkotron: wow, that came out pretty long :-S
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> check out this link to help you out to get the new one
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> !amarok
[08:38] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[08:39] <Parkotron> stokedfish: http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/ always has the newest available amarok debs (including betas).
[08:39] <keymaker> sudo killall adept
[08:39] <Parkotron> sergiusens: Sorry, I can't really help you. I do all my indenting manually, so I've never played with that stuff.
[08:40] <aliasfred> amarok will be good when it gonna be stable :) my impression is they run adding new stuff before fixing old one
[08:41] <TheGateKeeper> So why isn't amaroK 1.4.1 put in the standard repos and upgraded in as other pacakages are?
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> aliasfred, well 1.4.1 is a pretty cool release
[08:41] <keymaker> sudo killall adept
[08:41] <keymaker> sudo killall adept
[08:41] <keymaker> sudo killall adept
[08:42] <keymaker> sudo killall adept
[08:42] <keymaker> sudo killall adept
[08:42] <keymaker> sudo killall adept
[08:42] <keymaker> sudo killall adept
[08:42] <keymaker> sorry
[08:42] <Parkotron> TheGateKeeper: Upgrades only make it into the standard repos when it's required for security.
[08:42] <Alextremo> hello sorry i have a question about kubuntu
[08:42] <Admiral_Chicago> Alextremo, then ask it
[08:42] <aliasfred> Admiral_Chicago: dunno what you mean 'pretty cool', like does it work ? does it core a lot ? does it loose your playlist ?
[08:42] <Parkotron> Alextremo: Don't be sorry.
[08:42] <Admiral_Chicago> aliasfred, they do a sync with media device which is pretty cool
[08:43] <stokedfish> kubuntu = love
[08:43] <TheGateKeeper> Parkotron: so you have to wait for the next release of (k)ubuntu?
[08:43] <Admiral_Chicago> so I can plug in an iPod and listen to it
[08:43] <stokedfish> that's all i can say
[08:43] <stokedfish> period.
[08:43] <aliasfred> Admiral_Chicago: not that you answering my questions tho :) but in anycase you seems very satisfied by amarok, so its cool :)
[08:44] <Parkotron> TheGateKeeper: Exactly. Or you can just use the semi-official unsupported Kubuntu amaroK repos.
[08:44] <Alextremo> Parkotron Admiral_Chicago: dont worry man i did the problem thanks anyway
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago> okay
[08:44] <Alextremo> Parkotron: Administrator thx
[08:44] <Parkotron> Anytime.
[08:44] <sergiusens> Parkotron: no problem... it's that emacs use to do it ok... but i forgot all the shorcuts and don't feel like learning them again :-S... thanks
[08:45] <Admiral_Chicago> sergiusens, emacs...shudder
[08:45] <meilon> so, jetzt direkt aus kubuntu raus
[08:45] <TheGateKeeper> Parkotron: have to say that is a 'pet hate' of the ubuntu release system, I see we are on Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> but I am sure windows are <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:46] <RogueX> Does anyone know if some repositorys are down?
[08:46] <aliasfred> !de
[08:46] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:46] <victor__> hola
[08:46] <Parkotron> I asked earlier, but got no reply, so I'll ask again: Can anyone get the kscreensaver-xsavers package to work in Dapper? The package installs without complaint, but they're not listed in my Screensaver KCM.
[08:46] <meilon> zu meinem kompilierungsproblem:
[08:47] <meilon> meilon@meilon-nb:~/acerhk-0.5.33$ make
[08:47] <meilon> awk: cannot open /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/build/include/linux/version.h (No such file or directory)
[08:47] <aliasfred> meilon: !fr
[08:47] <meilon> awk: cannot open /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/build/include/linux/version.h (No such file or directory)
[08:47] <aliasfred> !de
[08:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:47] <meilon> cc -I/lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include -c -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -pipe -DMODVERSIONS -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -o acerhk.o acerhk.c
[08:47] <meilon> In Datei, eingefgt von acerhk.c:38:
[08:47] <meilon> /usr/include/linux/config.h:1:2: Fehler: #error "Compilation aborted. Please read the FAQ for linux-libc-headers package."
[08:47] <meilon> /usr/include/linux/config.h:2:2: Fehler: #error "(can be found at http://ep09.pld-linux.org/~mmazur/linux-libc-headers/doc/)"
[08:47] <meilon> acerhk.c:2973:2: Fehler: #error This driver is only available for X86 architecture
[08:47] <meilon> make: *** [acerhk.o]  Fehler 1
[08:47] <aliasfred> meilon: it is for you and please dont paste all your error here :)
[08:47] <aliasfred> !de
[08:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:47] <meilon> ups!
[08:47] <Parkotron> TheGateKeeper: It can be annoying at times, but if you realy "need" cutting edge you can always choose a more cutting edge distro.
[08:47] <Parkotron> !paste
[08:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:49] <Beeblebrox> anyone here running Counterstrike Source via Ubuntu?
[08:51] <neo381990> My8os sto gr
[08:52] <jujimufu> hey guys
[08:52] <jujimufu> I am trying to install XGL
[08:52] <jujimufu> and on installing compiz
[08:53] <jujimufu> after I've added the deps in the source list and all, I do "sudo apt-get install compiz" and I get the following error:
[08:53] <jujimufu> compiz
[08:53] <jujimufu> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:53] <jujimufu>   compiz: Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.12.3) but 1.12.2-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[08:53] <jujimufu> E: Broken packages
[08:53] <jujimufu> any ideas?
[08:53] <TheGateKeeper> Parkotron: if I wanted cutting edge I guess I would install Edge, I like dapper as it is. :-) I just find it annoying that certain applications that have become accepeted as stable are held back for the next release of ubuntu, such is life.
[08:54] <jujimufu> what do you mean, install "edge"?
[08:54] <Electrolyte> Well, installing Kubuntu went terribly wrong thanks to ATI's drivers.
[08:55] <aliasfred> edgy is the name of the dev release of ubuntu
[08:55] <TheGateKeeper> !fix
[08:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about fix - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:55] <aliasfred> Electrolyte: you tried easysource ?
[08:55] <aliasfred> !easyinstall
[08:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about easyinstall - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:55] <aliasfred> !easysource
[08:55] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:55] <aliasfred> not that
[08:55] <Electrolyte> easysource?
[08:56] <aliasfred> i dont remember the name, there is a tool special to make common install stuff easier
[08:56] <jujimufu> Well, ok, I have downloaded kubuntu 6.06 LTS
[08:56] <aliasfred> one of them is to install the ATI driver
[08:56] <jujimufu> easyubuntu?
[08:56] <aliasfred> yes! :)
[08:56] <jujimufu> I have installed everything, apart from the GF drivers
[08:56] <aliasfred> Electrolyte: have you tried easyubuntu ?
[08:56] <jujimufu> !easyubuntu
[08:56] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:56] <Electrolyte> I'm a newb at Linux.
[08:56] <Wind> can someone tell me what they have for brightness and contrast for kaffeine video player?
[08:56] <Electrolyte> And I mean totally.
[08:57] <TheGateKeeper> !fixinstall
[08:57] <ubotu> For a few common problems when installing, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall also make sure you have read !install
[08:57] <Wind> when i load a movie everything is over saturated so i'm trying to get it back to normal
[08:57] <Electrolyte> I'm trying my absolute best to get off Windows for everything but gaming but it's too difficult :/
[08:57] <jujimufu> Electrolyte: cedega?
[08:57] <jkeel> Electrolyte: it takes dedication :)
[08:58] <Electrolyte> jujimufu: eH?
[08:58] <Electrolyte> Eh*
[08:58] <jujimufu> cedega, the program that supports around 70% of the games for windows, under linux
[08:58] <Electrolyte> Never heard of it.
[08:58] <jujimufu> www.transgaming.net , I think
[08:59] <Electrolyte> lol, I'm not paying for that.
[08:59] <mahen> Not really 70% :) But surprisingly some quite new titles such as Heroes 5 work very well :)
[09:00] <eamon> how can I install a package from a .deb file? Ie, the command line way.
[09:01] <GnarusLeo> I am using kubuntu .. and why is it that EVERY font I am trying to choose to AMSN looks unclear and crappy? Is there something Im missing here?   And My KDE use "sans serif 10" .. but this isnt on the AMSN list even ..
[09:01] <fdoving> eamon: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[09:01] <eamon> thanks fdoving
[09:02] <trappist> Electrolyte: you can get the source for free and build it yourself.  it'll lack some features, though, most notably safedisc copy protection support
[09:03] <Electrolyte> Err, well most of my discs have that so that's a bit pointless :/
[09:04] <trappist> you're stuck paying the exhorbitant $15 then, if you want to play windows games on linux
[09:05] <errpast1> anyone run kubuntu over XP with vmware server?
[09:05] <Electrolyte> I'll just stick to XP then :/
[09:05] <Electrolyte> I'm thinking of formatting tomorrow and sticking 2000 Pro back on any way.
[09:05] <errpast1> Am running xp host, vmware server, kubuntu 6.06.  1 Gig ram.
[09:05] <niels> can someone give me a site where I can download all codecs?
[09:06] <errpast1> Seems OK.  But when I add second vm (Ubuntu), slows very badly.
[09:09] <niels> hello everybody, does someone know an all inclusive codec package?
[09:10] <Wind> where would i get the sony vaio drivers or package for my laptop
[09:10] <yogi> Riddell: Any ideas as to why the new kernel update (last last month) causes Creative Webcam NX not to work when it was previously?
[09:10] <fdoving> !codecs > niels
[09:10] <visik7> my custom install cd work smoothly
[09:10] <Riddell> yogi: nope
[09:10] <visik7> cool
[09:11] <yogi> Riddell: Any idea where I might look?  I'm tapped out.
[09:11] <TheGateKeeper> jujimufu: you could try: apt-get -f install or apt-get -f remove
[09:12] <fdoving> yogi: does it use restricted modules? if so, i've noticed linux-restricted-modules are not always pulled in with kernel updates. Check that you've got a version matching your kernel.
[09:12] <TheGateKeeper> jujimufu: what you have is broken packages you could also try aptitude to see if it will let you either reinstall or remove the broken packages. Got to run good luck :-)
[09:12] <Freddy2> hi
[09:13] <Wind> anyone?
[09:13] <Freddy2> i've seen the announcement for dapper drake, and i've taken a look at mirror sites but.. only 1 cd? or maybe 2, considering also the "alternate" cd?
[09:13] <niels> fdoving, what do u mean? !codecs?
[09:13] <fdoving> niels: didn't you get the notice from ubotu ?
[09:14] <trappist> Wind: most any drivers available for linux ship with ubuntu
[09:14] <fdoving> !codecs
[09:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:14] <fdoving> niels: ^^
[09:14] <yogi> fdoving: Hm.  Will check Adept to see.   Thanks
[09:14] <niels> k how to do this?
[09:14] <niels> with synaptic?
[09:14] <GnarusLeo> I am using kubuntu .. and why is it that EVERY font I am trying to choose to AMSN looks unclear and crappy? Is there something Im missing here?   And My KDE use "sans serif 10" .. but this isnt on the AMSN list even ..
[09:14] <Wind> trappist: it's not recognizing my video card, sound, monitor, etc
[09:15] <fdoving> niels: go to the webpages and read the documentation. you'll find better help on those pages than in this channel.
[09:15] <fdoving> GnarusLeo: amsn has poor font support.
[09:16] <|lostbyte|> fdoving, why so ?
[09:17] <fdoving> |lostbyte|: no anti aliasing, doesn't recognize my utf-8 chars, like , by default, that is. it can probably be hacked to look good.
[09:18] <yogi> fdoving:Don't think webcam NX uses any of them.  I know it uses the spca5xx module, and that's it.
[09:18] <fdoving> GnarusLeo: you might want to look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87001
[09:18] <fdoving> yogi: ok, then i don't know.
[09:18] <|lostbyte|> fdoving, k.
[09:18] <GnarusLeo> thanks
[09:18] <|lostbyte|> fdoving, thats it ?
[09:19] <mindspin> does anybody know if a dist-upgrade will install kubuntu 6.06.1 ?
[09:19] <[GuS] > hi there!!
[09:19] <fdoving> |lostbyte|: yes, that's it. kopete is nicer by default.
[09:19] <fdoving> mindspin: it will.
[09:19] <mindspin> so update dist upgrade will do ?
[09:19] <[GuS] > one question... since i've updated to KDE 3.5.4 i cant compress files in gz.tat gz.bz2 and non of the options that konqueror has
[09:20] <InteliWasp> is there a know bug with daper for old monitors and a newish vid card that can do resolutions higher that the monitor?
[09:21] <yogi> Thanks, fdoving... just looked, again, and it seems I have the latest restricted modules.  Kopete quit working w/cam, too. :-\  Guess it's back to last kernel.  Thanks, again.
[09:21] <yogi> Good day, everyone. :-)
[09:21] <|lostbyte|> fdoving, Compiling tk with xft support solves anti-alias problem.
[09:21] <GnarusLeo> fdoving, it said in the howto that "if you did everyhing over you can choose nice fonts" .. but do I have to reinstall everything?
[09:23] <|lostbyte|> fdoving, amsn has utf-8
[09:23] <fdoving> |lostbyte|: i know, i selected it, but it still didn't accept my utf8 chars.
[09:24] <fdoving> GnarusLeo: not sure. i didn't do it myself, just found the link on google. If you follow the howto and it still doesn't work i don't know what to do.
[09:25] <|lostbyte|> k
[09:25] <anil> hi, how do i prevent the bcm43xx module from loading? im installing the driver via ndiswrapper
[09:26] <|lostbyte|> anil, Add it as a black list.
[09:26] <anil> |lostbyte|: how?
[09:26] <fdoving> anil: add a line with 'blacklist bcm43xx' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:26] <anil> fdoving: thanks :)
[09:27] <anil> where's the documentation related to this?
[09:27] <InteliWasp> is thw bcm43xx compatable with the bcm 4306?
[09:27] <fdoving> anil: no clue.. 'man modprobe' mayebe.
[09:27] <|lostbyte|> InteliWasp, yes it is.
[09:28] <|lostbyte|> anil, documentation for ?
[09:28] <anil> oh working with modules.. blacklisting, aliasing etc
[09:28] <InteliWasp> |lostbyte| i wonder why it won't work automaticly... it says that it cant find something... yes i forgot it
[09:29] <viktor> does anyone know how i enable the S/PDIF (Coaxial) in kubuntu ?
[09:29] <|lostbyte|> InteliWasp, Cant find what
[09:29] <InteliWasp> looking now... if it dosent back out on me...
[09:30] <InteliWasp> *black
[09:32] <vikke> hello, im trying to compile something, but in the readme it says i need the source to my kernel. How do get that?
[09:33] <InteliWasp> |lostbyte| ok got it   " bcm43xx: Error Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.
[09:33] <herve> hi ....where can i have entire repository list for kubuntu
[09:33] <|lostbyte|> vikke, kernel-source-<versiom>
[09:33] <|lostbyte|> InteliWasp, Ahh, did you download the firemware ?
[09:34] <|lostbyte|> firmware.
[09:34] <InteliWasp> |lostbyte| not yet, havent gotten the chance
[09:35] <|lostbyte|> THis is the firmware.. http://svit.epfl.ch/stuff/wl_apsta.o
[09:35] <vikke> |lostbyte|, is that a terminal command? anyway i dont know my kernel version
[09:35] <Wind> is there a gamma and color correction program for kubuntu
[09:35] <|lostbyte|> Then you have to use a bcm43xx-extrator to extract it.
[09:36] <|lostbyte|> vikke, From adept.
[09:36] <|lostbyte|> Search for kernel-source
[09:36] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I'm using KDE and recently I was able to get Xgl going without using the kde-window-decorator (I had to use cgwd).  To use Xgl, though, I had to modify my /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc file, my /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore file, and place the right *.desktop file in my $HOME/.kde/Autostart directory.
[09:36] <|lostbyte|> and install the version that matches "uname -r"
[09:36] <Ertain> Crap, I knew I shouldn't have done a cut-and-paste with that last one.
[09:37] <|lostbyte|> Ertain, :)
[09:37] <InteliWasp> |lostbyte| i got the driver, where do i put it?
[09:37] <[Relic] > what causes random changes in the desktop settings?
[09:37] <Ertain> Anyway, I have seen how I can merely put a different desktop file in my /usr/share/xsessions directory, I'm wondering how I can use compiz without putting the compiz desktop file in my $HOME/.kde/Autostart directory (on the account it will still start up when I use Xorg and not Xgl).
[09:37] <|lostbyte|> InteliWasp, got to extract it dude.
[09:38] <[Relic] > can't seem to align to grid my desktop icons anymore
[09:38] <|lostbyte|> [Relic] , Like ?
[09:38] <[Relic] > and the bar with the clickable processes on it seems to be 1/2 normal size randomly
[09:39] <[Relic] > like when align to grid is checked and they icons don't align to grid
[09:39] <|lostbyte|> [Relic] , I usually save session to store those settings.
[09:39] <|lostbyte|> Ertain, I have a better way..
[09:39] <InteliWasp> |lostbyte| er... before i can do that... how do i set the display to use a certin resolution when booting? halfway into the boot proccess, the display goes black
[09:40] <[Relic] > I am the only user on this computer, and up till a little while ago there seemed to be no randomness to the settings
[09:40] <|lostbyte|> InteliWasp, Display does "black" meaning. IT gives an error ?
[09:41] <InteliWasp> like a black screen
[09:41] <|lostbyte|> InteliWasp, Pastebin your xorg.conf file.
[09:41] <pm> hello
[09:42] <marcus___> zup
[09:42] <|lostbyte|> [Relic] , It could be anything.. Does this happen everytime you logout and in ?
[09:42] <pm> how to convert mpg file into mp3, in other words how to rip sound from a video file?
[09:42] <InteliWasp> |lostbyte| give me a few minutes... gotta use a live cd
[09:42] <anil> aha worked :D great
[09:42] <anil> thanks guys
[09:43] <anil> now i gotta get the wifi settings from windows and configure it in here :D
[09:43] <anil> bye
[09:43] <pm> I've tried with ffmpeg but the output sound quality was much much worse
[09:43] <[Relic] > right now it is unable to align icons to grid, and has small bars, but it could change with the next time I turn it on
[09:43] <|lostbyte|> pm, ffmpeg has some nice parameters did you read the man, manual ?
[09:43] <hytekk> hi everyone !
[09:44] <romulo> how do I do to make my screen work on 75hz?
[09:44] <hytekk> im a newbie and im having problems installing firefox,  using apt-get.
[09:44] <magical_trevsky> hi, if I install the package 'gdm', will that let me use gnome, or do I need the whole 'ubuntu-desktop'?
[09:44] <pm> yes i did
[09:45] <hytekk> there seem to be some dependencies which are not met.... how do i sort that out ? (libatk1.0-0, libgtk2.0-0 and libpango1.0-0)
[09:48] <|lostbyte|> pm, I got another way..
[09:48] <Ertain> So... What was that alternative, with configuring Xgl?
[09:48] <|lostbyte|> pm, mplayer video.mpg -dumpaudio -dumpfile audio_rip.mp3
[09:48] <hytekk> anyone ?
[09:49] <|lostbyte|> hytekk, try apt-get install -f
[09:49] <|lostbyte|> hytekk, and then try..
[09:51] <|lostbyte|> magical_trevsky, Its simplay a X display manager.
[09:51] <hytekk> |lostbyte|: same message...
[09:51] <|lostbyte|> magical_trevsky, you can sill use gnome with kdm.
[09:52] <|lostbyte|> hytekk, What are you installing ?
[09:52] <pm> |lostbyte|: many thanks
[09:52] <hytekk> trying to apt-get firefox
[09:52] <magical_trevsky> |lostbyte|, so to actually get gnome, the only way is to install ubuntu-desktop?
[09:53] <|lostbyte|> magical_trevsky, Yup ! that would be a Efficent way.
[09:53] <magical_trevsky> 700mb of hdd space :(
[09:53] <magical_trevsky> ah well, thanks :D
[09:53] <|lostbyte|> hytekk, dapper drake.
[09:54] <|lostbyte|> ?
[09:55] <InteliWasp> |lostbyte| ok finaly... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20208
[09:56] <hytekk> |lostbyte|: what?
[09:57] <GnarusLeo> what does katapulp do? And do we need it? :)
[09:57] <|lostbyte|> InteliWasp, so you want it to be 1024x768
[09:57] <timthelion_> I have a bunch of pictures on my computer. my ip over the lan is <IP_ADDRESS>.  Is there an easy way that I could make it so that my family could go to http://<IP_ADDRESS>/picts and see an web page with "click to enlarge" thumbnails and also see a list of links to subdirectories?
[09:57] <InteliWasp> |lostbyte| yes
[09:58] <GnarusLeo> timthelion_, you should take a look at apache
[09:59] <GnarusLeo> timthelion_, and a easy picture gallery html maker
[09:59] <timthelion_> would that be easy to set up?
[09:59] <InteliWasp> |lostbyte| btw... that file you gave me, what kind of file is it?
[09:59] <sprink> Does dapper still use the debian installer?
[09:59] <GnarusLeo> timthelion_, follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:59] <sprink> I dont wanna use the gui installer
[09:59] <|lostbyte|> InteliWasp, go into that file and remove "1280x1024" from the 113th line.
[10:00] <hytekk> how can i automagicly download all dependecies to for example firefox using apt-get?
[10:00] <|lostbyte|> InteliWasp, Its a driver. but to make use of it in linux, you have to cut it open. Hold on..
[10:01] <sprink> hytekk. dependecies are usually downloaded automatically if required and found in the repositorys
[10:02] <|lostbyte|> InteliWasp, here, bcm43xx-fwcutter is the program. its in the repos.
[10:02] <fdoving> sprink: the alternate cd use the good old installer.
[10:02] <hytekk> sprink: aha, so i see. i understand, but still doesnt solve problem im afraid...
[10:03] <sprink> fdoving.. aww that sucks
[10:03] <ninHer_> hi all
[10:03] <timthelion_> !mov
[10:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about mov - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:03] <timthelion_> is there some trick to get kaffene to play .mov files?
[10:03] <sprink> fdoving. this will be my 3rd time downloading a new cd.. first I got ubuntu on accident.. (I wanted kde).. so then I got kubuntu.. now I need a different one the old installer
[10:03] <fdoving> !codecs > timthelion_
[10:04] <sprink> *sigh*
[10:04] <fdoving> sprink: heh.. you can rsync and probably save some bandwidth, if you have restrictions on bandwidth.
[10:05] <InteliWasp> |lostbyte| is it posible to get it installed on a machine without an internet connection?
[10:05] <sprink> no restrictions.. just kinda silly
[10:05] <sprink> I dont know how anyone gets by using the installer on the live cds.. man.. that thing blows
[10:05] <|lostbyte|> InteliWasp, huh, download it and then transfer it to that pc.
[10:05] <elbourne> HI guys
[10:06] <|lostbyte|> sprink, Blows ?
[10:06] <sprink> yeah.. the installer on the live cd
[10:06] <Ertain> So... How can I set up Xgl without needing to place the compiz.desktop file in my $HOME/.kde/Autostart/ directory?
[10:06] <sprink> meaing.. it sucks
[10:07] <sprink> meaning*
[10:07] <InteliWasp> |lostbyte| the display change did not work
[10:07] <|lostbyte|> InteliWasp, did you remove it from the line i said.
[10:07] <|lostbyte|> the line that has 24 on top of it.
[10:07] <InteliWasp> |lostbyte| yes
[10:08] <|lostbyte|> InteliWasp, then its not a resolution problem
[10:08] <sprink> is there anyway to do a bare minimal install using the installer on the live cd?
[10:08] <|lostbyte|> sprink, Installing kubuntu from the live cd is bare. :P
[10:09] <sprink> |lostbyte| hmm.. so it just install and kde? :)
[10:09] <InteliWasp> |lostbyte| i wonder why it worked before bot not today...
[10:09] <|lostbyte|> sprink, yupp.
[10:11] <InteliWasp> |lostbyte| thats odd.... the monitor is reporting 85 hertz... but it normaly goes up to 80...
[10:12] <sprink> okay that is good.. maybe its not as bad as I thought
[10:12] <Ertain> Back to my Xgl question: if I installed the compiz-kde pack, it would install the libqt4 libraries.  I'm worried that this will break my system, or I'll have to then download a whole bunch of other packs when I want to compile KDE programs.
[10:12] <norbert> hi there, does someone know why the downloads and updates from the server http://security.ubuntu.com are so slow or how i can make them faster?
[10:13] <|lostbyte|> Ertain, these are all you need.. compiz compiz-gnome compiz-kde xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa libglitz-glx1 gconf-editor xmodmap
[10:14] <fdoving> norbert: the datacentre where security.ubuntu.com is located had some bandwidth issues. Don't know when it will be fixed.
[10:14] <|lostbyte|> norbert, Search for another mirror.
[10:14] <fdoving> |lostbyte|: security.ubuntu.com doesn't have mirrors, or should not have, atleast.
[10:15] <Skrot> !dapper-updated
[10:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about dapper-updated - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:15] <Skrot> !dapper-updates
[10:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about dapper-updates - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:15] <Skrot> hum. What is dapper-updates?
[10:15] <fdoving> updates to dapper.
[10:15] <Skrot> yes, just a normal apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:15] <fdoving> yes, if you have the archive enabled.
[10:15] <Skrot> The archive beeing?
[10:16] <drayen> humm this new 6.06.1 release, do i need to dist-upgrade? as i have amd64 and want to make sure i get the 32-bit compatibility Qt libraries on amd64 systems Fix....
[10:16] <neo381990> My8os sto gr
[10:17] <fdoving> Skrot: in adept manager -> view -> manage repositories, check that dapper-updates is enabled.
[10:17] <grothesk> My WLAN-card looses it's wepkey every reboot.
[10:18] <Skrot> fdoving: dapper-updates as a distro?
[10:18] <fdoving> drayen: a dist-upgrade on your current 6.06 with the dapper-updates repository enabled will give you 6.06.1.
[10:18] <grothesk> What ist a clean way to have it set up atomatically?
[10:18] <fdoving> Skrot: no, it is a repository with the updates to dapper.
[10:18] <fdoving> grothesk: how do you set it?
[10:18] <Skrot> fdoving: okay, cause it says dapper-updates under the "Distribution"-coloum in adept
[10:18] <|lostbyte|> grothesk, man wireless
[10:19] <grothesk> fdoving: With 'ifconfig ra0 key MYKEY'
[10:19] <fdoving> grothesk: using 'wireless-key' in /etc/network/interfaces is pretty clean. or you could use knetworkmanager with kwallet support.
[10:19] <grothesk> knetworkmanager does not run with my card, afaik.
[10:20] <fdoving> ok, then using /etc/network/interfaces is clean.
[10:20] <grothesk> thx
[10:20] <scast> Ahh...
[10:21] <scast> I used to use konqueror-only for my web needs... But it lacks a few features that I need.
[10:22] <Skrot> I see. Such as?
[10:22] <|lostbyte|> scast, like ?
[10:22] <scast> i love web developer toolbar :E
[10:22] <scast> Tho the feed agregation feature in the botton right corner is sweet.
[10:23] <|lostbyte|> scast, konq is bad with toolbars.
[10:24] <|lostbyte|> And have minimul plugins.
[10:24] <scast> Also Customize Google and Adblock+ is amazing.
[10:25] <lascar> problem: Kubuntu cannot load the x-server at startup; I have to type "startx" every, single, time.
[10:26] <lascar> any suggestions?
[10:27] <fdoving> lascar: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm'
[10:28] <lascar> fdoving: kdm is broken or not fully installed
[10:29] <fdoving> lascar: then try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:30] <jc-denton> hello
[10:30] <lascar> fdoving: where "a" is the package name?
[10:30] <jc-denton> the hibernate option disappeard from the klaptop menu
[10:30] <jc-denton> and i have no idea why this is
[10:30] <fdoving> lascar: no, where -a is -a :)
[10:30] <lascar> ok
[10:31] <lascar> now what?
[10:31] <fdoving> jc-denton: is this edgy?
[10:31] <jc-denton> no dapper
[10:31] <jc-denton> but i installed the new kde
[10:31] <fdoving> ok..
[10:32] <fdoving> lascar: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' again.
[10:32] <lascar> fdoving: just did, same error message
[10:33] <fdoving> lascar: what about 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow kdm'
[10:33] <fdoving> lascar: if that doesn't work use 'sudo apt-get install kdm'
[10:33] <lascar> ::installs kdm::
[10:33] <fdoving> jc-denton: i don't have a solution for you, sorry. Sounds strange though.. probably something in kde 3.5.4.
[10:34] <lascar> fdoving: should i install the suggested package "menu?"
[10:34] <fdoving> lascar: no, not needed.
[10:34] <lascar> ok
[10:34] <jc-denton> ok
[10:34] <jc-denton> how can i suspend it w/o klaptop
[10:34] <jc-denton> and there was a cli tool that shows you the acpi capabilities
[10:34] <jc-denton> but i don't remeber the name
[10:35] <trappist> acpi_available?
[10:35] <fdoving> jc-denton: you can experiment with 'pmi' on the commandline.
[10:35] <lascar> fdoving: thanx
[10:36] <jc-denton> < nils@nx7010:~ > pmi capabilities
[10:36] <jc-denton> hibernate
[10:36] <jc-denton> humm
[10:36] <xevil> !nvidia
[10:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:36] <jc-denton> how can i suspend it w/o kde
[10:38] <marcos> Hi.  i'm stuck at a resolution of 640x480.  would like to change it to 1024x768 well versed in linux, just stuck.  any help?
[10:38] <jc-denton> humm
[10:38] <jc-denton> the hibernate entry is just missing
[10:38] <fdoving> !xconfig
[10:38] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:38] <samiam010203> marcos --> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:39] <fdoving> !xconfig marcos
[10:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about xconfig marcos - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:39] <fdoving> !xconfig > marcos
[10:39] <fdoving> finally got it right. :)
[10:40] <sprink> okay.. who ever said the gui installer installs the bare minimum is wrong
[10:40] <jc-denton> or where is the script that executes everything in /etc/suspend.d
[10:40] <fdoving> sprink: it installs a full kubuntu-desktop system.
[10:41] <sprink> yeah.. someone here said it installs the bare minimum
[10:41] <sprink> now I have alot crap on my hdd I dont need
[10:41] <jc-denton> i mean i don't care for now if klaptop does not work correctly
[10:41] <userhar> ++
[10:41] <jc-denton> i just want to hibernate my laptop and go to bed
[10:41] <fdoving> sprink: i recommend using 'debfoster' to get rid of the crap.
[10:42] <samiam010203> have you tryed kpowersave?
[10:42] <fdoving> jc-denton: doesn't 'pmi action hibernate' work?
[10:42] <jc-denton> ah
[10:42] <jc-denton> there is no man for pmi
[10:42] <fdoving> if you disappear i take it as a yes :)
[10:42] <jc-denton> heh will try
[10:43] <jc-denton> thx
[10:43] <samiam010203> anyone know how to get s2ram working in kubuntu?
[10:43] <samiam010203> on an emachines m6810?
[11:03] <Riddell> kubuntu meeting now in #ubuntu-meeting
[11:24] <sprink> is it just me or is the security repositorys extremely slow?
[11:25] <aliasfred> btw why is the security repository not mirrored ?
[11:25] <aliasfred> i heard it is the only one not mirrored
[11:25] <mackan> its weird
[11:25] <jimmy> After rebooting my pc, my home directory seems to be missing without a trace, has anyone ad this problem before?
[11:25] <_justin> Evening all ..
[11:25] <soulrider> dfoes anyone know a good linux alternative to Daemon Tools?
[11:25] <aliasfred> if i heard correctly, yeah it is weird
[11:25] <sprink> so its not my pc? they are just slow
[11:26] <aliasfred> soulrider: what daemon tools does ?
[11:26] <soulrider> mount CD images
[11:26] <soulrider> on a virtual CD drive
[11:26] <sprink> my eta for these security updates is 7 hours
[11:26] <sprink> I just wanna make sure its not a problem on my end
[11:27] <aliasfred> soulrider: mount -t iso9660 /my/fakedir /my/iso/image.iso  would do it :)
[11:27] <neo381990> My8os
[11:27] <soulrider> its on an ISO
[11:27] <soulrider> its .img
[11:27] <aliasfred> what is .img ?
[11:27] <soulrider> its a type of CD images :P
[11:28] <aliasfred> hmm dont think so :)
[11:28] <soulrider> hmmm, i think so :)
[11:28] <soulrider> i **KNOW*
[11:28] <aliasfred> no me im correct :)
[11:28] <_justin> What is it ... Here I am with a proper full on Kubuntu problem .. I feck with it for hours and then think .. OH IRC .. Someone will help me ..
[11:28] <soulrider> i can go to wina nd mount and burnt here
[11:28] <aliasfred> ok where did you get it ?
[11:28] <soulrider> its a DVD Image :P
[11:28] <aliasfred> where did you get it ?
[11:28] <soulrider> perfectly legal too :P
[11:28] <_justin> Then just as I'm about the ask the question the problem solves itself ..
[11:29] <aliasfred> soulrider: out of which software ?
[11:29] <jimmy> My home folder is gone, can anyone help?
[11:29] <aliasfred> it seems like a software format
[11:29] <soulrider> no software :P
[11:29] <_justin> So here i am .. a Man without a problem ..
[11:29] <soulrider> ive burnt img files before
[11:29] <aliasfred> soulrider: so you got a file which come from no software :)
[11:29] <soulrider> its a movie
[11:29] <aliasfred> wow keep it :) it is the first one i ever see :)
[11:29] <hads|home> Anyone tracking edgy and know what is going on with the fonts in KDE at present?
[11:29] <soulrider> really?
[11:30] <aliasfred> soulrider: which software created it ?
[11:30] <soulrider> ive used several of those files, just never under linux
[11:30] <soulrider> dont knwo
[11:30] <aliasfred> soulrider: how did you rip this dvd ?
[11:30] <aliasfred> ah ok
[11:30] <soulrider> i didnt :P
[11:30] <aliasfred> ok :)
[11:30] <aliasfred> from what i imagine, this is a software format, specific to some window dvd ripper
[11:30] <BluesKaj> what's the scrn kill cmd ?
[11:31] <jimmy> soulrider, did you try k3b?
[11:31] <BluesKaj> frozen app
[11:31] <BluesKaj> won't exit
[11:31] <soulrider> i dont think k3b can burn it
[11:32] <BluesKaj> 3 finger salute not working, neither is the logout
[11:32] <BluesKaj> helloooo
[11:32] <BluesKaj> ?
[11:32] <mackan> hi BluesKaj
[11:33] <BluesKaj> hi mackan
[11:33] <aliasfred> soulrider: from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD_image#.IMG this is a raw dump, so you may try to simply rename it as .iso
[11:33] <soulrider> :/
[11:33] <soulrider> dont worry, ill just burn it on win
[11:33] <soulrider> im too cheap to risk losing a DVD :P
[11:33] <mackan> ctrl + alt + backspace aint working BluesKaj?
[11:34] <aliasfred> soulrider: simply mount it as loop first and then see
[11:34] <jimmy> has anyone ever had the problem of thier home folder simply dissapearing? I can't even log into KDE, GNOME, or XFce
[11:35] <aliasfred> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion <- or play with that soulrider
[11:35] <soulrider> brb
[11:35] <mads_peder> im sorry to bother you again inhere . my ubuntu still suffer complete jam when i try and run kopete. i have removed and added it several times , but no changes. i have also ran other things that causes simular freezes where my only option is to shut it down by pushing the power button. but i would really apreciate if someone could tell me how to get the kopete to work again. i pick it in the application menu , about 10 secs go before it shows up and at
[11:35] <mads_peder> .
[11:35] <aliasfred> jimmy: dont remember anybody reporting that before
[11:35] <jimmy> it is really weird, it happened about 10 minutes ago
[11:36] <jimmy> I was watching this clip about a wireless lcd that some guy made, then firefox crashed
[11:36] <jimmy> and it would not startup again, so i figured that I would reboot, and when I did, poof! no more /home/jimmy
[11:37] <aliasfred> weird indeed
[11:37] <jimmy> any ideas?
[11:38] <jimmy> I can start gnome as root, but thats about it
[11:39] <freestyler> hey everyone im new to this so can you help me out a bit?
[11:39] <aliasfred> well try to go in /home to see what is there
[11:39] <aliasfred> you should see a 'jimmy' aka your usename
[11:39] <jimmy> just an old mythtv folder
[11:39] <jimmy> I know that, but it is not there
[11:39] <jimmy> it is totally gone
[11:40] <aliasfred> you mean, the whole dir got wiped out ?
[11:40] <aliasfred> and ls -la /home/jimmy ?
[11:40] <jimmy> yes! I can't find it anywhere, I even did a search for it
[11:40] <aliasfred> ok ok
[11:40] <aliasfred> what is your username in normal case
[11:41] <jimmy> jimmy
[11:42] <TheGateKeeper> !ask > freestyler
[11:42] <aliasfred> ok do 'du -s /home/jimmy' and paste the result here
[11:44] <freestyler> how is everyone
[11:44] <jimmy> du: cannot access '/home/jimmy' : No such file or directory
[11:45] <aliasfred> hmm ok i smell an issue of disk mount :)
[11:45] <freestyler> hello everyone
[11:45] <jimmy> my home is not on a seperate partition
[11:45] <aliasfred> freeflying: ultra polite mode :)
[11:46] <aliasfred> jimmy: well i never saw any /home/username dir being deleted spontaneously :)
[11:46] <jimmy> me neither :(
[11:46] <aliasfred> you are sure about the separate partition ?
[11:46] <jimmy> and of course tomorrow would be my backup date
[11:46] <jimmy> yes
[11:47] <jimmy> a whole weeks of work, poof!
[11:47] <aliasfred> ok you got cracked ?
[11:47] <freestyler> hello everyone
[11:47] <jimmy> cracked?
[11:47] <aliasfred> freestyler: please say 'blablabla'
[11:48] <aliasfred> jimmy: yep, like an evil attacker got into your box and start delete file for 'fun'
[11:48] <freestyler> blablabla
[11:48] <jimmy> hmmm, is that possible?
[11:48] <aliasfred> ah ok :) just checking
[11:48] <aliasfred> jimmy: sure :)
[11:48] <sprink> can anyone answwer me please? I just want to know if the security repositorys being slow as hell is normal
[11:49] <jimmy> I am behind a router and had firestarter on
[11:49] <aliasfred> jimmy: unlikely tho, but possible
[11:49] <Hobbsee> sprink: yeah, they've been slow recently
[11:49] <jimmy> is there any chance of a hard disk recovery?
[11:49] <aliasfred> jimmy: on the other hand, a home dir being wiped out is unlikely too
[11:49] <jimmy> lol
[11:49] <sprink> Hobbsee. okay thank you
[11:50] <aliasfred> or maybe some misconfigured software started to rm -rf $SOMEUNSETVARIABLE
[11:50] <aliasfred> jimmy: i think there is some tool to undelete file...
[11:50] <pm> do you know some software for recording webcam streams (qt-, gtk- or whatever-based)?
[11:50] <jimmy> know of anyone in particular?
[11:51] <aliasfred> jimmy: what is your fs ? the one for /home or /
[11:51] <aliasfred> jimmy: nope but google will help me help you :)
[11:51] <aliasfred> pm, i use vlc
[11:51] <jimmy> lol, just seeing if you of one already ;)
[11:52] <jimmy> well, thanks for at least trying to help!
[11:52] <aliasfred> ok no trouble :)
[11:52] <pm> aliasfred: thanks, i'll try that out :)
[11:53] <aliasfred> pm, there is some option in the menu to setup the webcam recording, ctrl-a from memory
[11:56] <pm> aliasfred: thanks
[12:03] <freestyler> can you speak to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:05] <jimmy> hey fred, is there a way to creat a working home folder without re-installing?
[12:06] <jimmy> because I get a kstartupconfigure error when i try to start kde normally
[12:07] <doppelganger_> what is it you put in the top of a text file if you want to make it able to be executed, like at boot?
[12:07] <doppelganger_> it's like ./#bin or something
[12:07] <josie> howdy :)
[12:07] <doppelganger_> i'm just trying to basically make like a batch file that'll load on boot
[12:08] <doppelganger_> with just one command in it