[11:30] <odneun> how would i got about finding the job ?
[11:30] <GomoX> odneun: man ps
[11:31] <eck> odneun: see also top
[11:31] <|-David-|> Now I just have to install the GOOD programs on Windows
[11:31] <|-David-|> lol
[11:31] <odneun> that's the point... i don't know what process is running the script, i tried killing Bash, because that's what it was launched from, and because it's a loop the PID of the reoccuring program changed every 2 seconds, and when i kill one, a new one starts
[11:31] <kiltbear> pelo: thanks, I've been everywhere on the forums already. That's where I learned I needed the dmfe drivers... but those seem not to be on the feisty server install disk... I'll try going to earlier versions that seemed to have worked on the hardware I am using
[11:32] <eck> odneun: you need to use ps or top to see what is using up a lot of cpu time
[11:32] <GigaClon> is there a transcode tutorial?
[11:32] <edgy> Hi, where can I find a how to for installaing gutsy in chroot or in it's own partition?
[11:33] <GomoX> odneun: oh i see
[11:33] <Pelo> |-David-|,  most windows progs have nice linux alternatives,   try this link for a frew pointers  , http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[11:33] <odneun> the program didn't take much CPU, and that would only show the program that is being looped, not the process which is making that process loop on opening itself
[11:33] <|-David-|> Yeh, I know, but I need some stuff on my Windows
[11:33] <|-David-|> lol
[11:34] <eck> odneun: yeah, look for the ppid of the process
[11:34] <Temporo> Hey
[11:34] <eck> odneun: i.e. the parent process
[11:34] <Pelo> |-David-|, if I had known you were going to go back to the darkside I would never have helped you get windows back
[11:34] <Pelo> ;-)
[11:34] <|-David-|> Once I get wireless on my Linux, I'll be back =P
[11:34] <odneun> how do i find the parent process out from the running process?, finding it out from the PID would be impossible because of the fact that the PID would change every 2 seconds
[11:35] <iphv37> pelo, do you know how to make the movie work well in vlc?
[11:35] <eck> odneun: ps will list the ppid alongside the pid
[11:35] <Lamego> odneun, a parent never changes, unless the child is not the same
[11:35] <odneun> hm
[11:35] <Lamego> if the ppid changed, then its another pid
[11:35] <Temporo> on a dedi server 6.0 LTS do i want a 2.6.15-28.55 kernel?
[11:35] <Pelo> iphv37, same kind of error msg as in mpllayer ? same kind of solution,  if not , try asking in #vlc
[11:35] <Temporo> I am guessing yes
[11:36] <ward__> |-David-|, i also need stuff from my windows, but i'm fairly confident that there will be a time when i don't need it anymore
[11:36] <killaz> anyone in here have used or is using LUFS?
[11:36] <ward__> that's why i start learning ubuntu now :-)
[11:36] <odneun> k, let's say it's a script that just keeps running the command "ping" over and over, how would i stop that script ?
[11:36] <eck> odneun: ps | grep ping, then find the ppid of ping and kill the parent
[11:36] <eck> ps -ef rather
[11:37] <Lamego> if the parent changes, then its launched by another process
[11:37] <Sh3r1ff> ward__: windows will always be usefull to screw up computers ;)
[11:37] <Lamego> so, you need the parent of the parent
[11:37] <Ronald|Laptop> Pelo: thx dyrne thx
[11:37] <ward__> lol Sh3r1ff
[11:37] <cox377> finally moved this machine over from kubuntu 606 to ubuntu 704, like a breath of fresh air
[11:37] <K`zan> on a umount that reports busy how does one find out what is tying it up?
[11:37] <ward__> Sh3r1ff, there's software that won't run in ubuntu, that's the only reason i need windows
[11:37] <Ronald|Laptop> Pelo: gonna be a bit of a stunt to pull this off :P
[11:37] <Lamego> K`zan, with fuser
[11:37] <Pelo> Sh3r1ff,  we do not indulge in windows bashing in this channel,  we dont, need to the product can bash itself
[11:37] <|-David-|> There's hardware that won't run in Ubuntu, that's why I need windows
[11:37] <K`zan> Lamego: Thanks!
[11:38] <iphv37> pelo, there isn't anyone in #vlc!!
[11:38] <Sh3r1ff> ward__: linux has for the most programs a good alternative
[11:38] <odneun> how do i kill a PPID ?
[11:38] <Pelo> Ronald|Laptop, yeah but you can handle it I am sure
[11:38] <needhelp> Hello
[11:38] <ward__> Sh3r1ff, the program i talk about has a linux version lol
[11:38] <Lamego> K`zan, np, that was the more useful command which I have discovered later ;)
[11:38] <lmentoxx> alright i have a serious problem i shut down my comp yesturday and since i've tried to restart it is showing a black screen with my mouse icon spinning like it is working and not loading my login page .... any help?
[11:38] <Ronald|Laptop> Pelo: after today i don't have a lot of confidence :)
[11:38] <Sh3r1ff> Pelo: true, o so very true ;)
[11:38] <Lamego> odneun, kill -9 ppid
[11:38] <Ronald|Laptop> Pelo: well thank you ;D
[11:38] <odneun> thanks :)
[11:38] <|-David-|> It's hard to find Linux drivers for some Windows hardware
[11:38] <EADG> odneun: sudo kill -9 #
[11:38] <ward__> Sh3r1ff, but it won't work on ubuntu
[11:39] <K`zan> Lamego: As root: fuser /home/vw/zvsh - Cannot stat /home/vw/zvsh: Permission denied
[11:39] <ward__> |-David-|, what hardware?
[11:39] <Sh3r1ff> ward__: which program?
[11:39] <Lamego> K`zan, sudo fuser
[11:39] <ward__> Sh3r1ff, gephex
[11:39] <Pelo> |-David-|,  depends on the hardware , it's more difficlt for the newer stuff because noone had a chance to make one yet
[11:39] <|-David-|> My Wireless USB Adapter =P
[11:39] <|-David-|> lol
[11:39] <odneun> wait, won't that kill every other process that has the same PPID ?
[11:39] <K`zan> Lamego: Did that as root, but will see if that helps, thanks!
[11:39] <Sh3r1ff> ward__: never heard of it, what does it do?
[11:39] <Pelo> |-David-|, look up your usb modwem model in the forum
[11:39] <|-David-|> Belkin won't make a driver =O
[11:40] <eck> odneun: you are killing the parent, not the process itself; the children will not die unless you kill them as well
[11:40] <Sh3r1ff> odneun: pid is unique ;)
[11:40] <ward__> Sh3r1ff, its a tool to manipulate video (live)
[11:40] <ward__> Sh3r1ff, in short u can veejay with it
[11:40] <habeeb> I have an ext3 Linux partition into an extended one. Is it possible to resize it?
[11:40] <odneun> no, the Parent PID.. that's the like.. 1 digit number, right ?
[11:40] <K`zan> Cannot stat /home/vw/zvsh: Permission denied
[11:40] <K`zan> argh :)
[11:40] <Sh3r1ff> ward__: trying to create your own tv channel
[11:40] <Sh3r1ff> ?
[11:40] <Sh3r1ff> ;)
[11:41] <odneun> oh crap-- read it wrong, sorry
[11:41] <ward__> Sh3r1ff, u can veejay with it for instance
[11:41] <K`zan> easier to reboot... bbiaf
[11:41] <eck> Pelo: don't worry, the children will be reparented ;-)
[11:41] <opapo> Is there a good channel for dhcp?
[11:41] <Pelo> eck,  make sure they get a good /home
[11:41] <lmentoxx> is there anyway through the terminal to save my personal files that are on my desktop and send them to my email...?
[11:41] <Pelo> ok that one didn,T work
[11:41] <odneun> cheer for the help guys, i've just been wandering about that one for a while
[11:41] <GomoX> opapo: what's the problem
[11:42] <dyrne> opapo: #linux maybe
[11:42] <Pelo> lmentoxx,  basicaly you want a command line mail client that handles attachement ?
[11:42] <Ronald|Laptop> Pelo: the stunt i have will be the copy cd to a partition and use grub stunt. just have to copy the cd over ssh :P (good thing a gentoo minimal cd boots)
[11:42] <eck> lmentoxx: create a tarball to store the files in, and if you need to send the mail via the command line too use the sendmail command line program
[11:42] <Sh3r1ff> opapo: #debian
[11:42] <opapo> GomoX: my dhcp server will send dhcp offers to the client, but the client doesn't receive them
[11:43] <p1ls> anyone uses fluxbox in here?
[11:43] <Pelo> Ronald|Laptop,  you are a better h4xor then I
[11:43] <lmentoxx> ok for ref whats the desktop command line to make a tarball
[11:43] <opapo> Sh3r1ff: #debian doesn't want to be tainted with Ubuntu
[11:43] <eck> wait, you would probably have to use something like mutt or mailx
[11:43] <schasi> p1ls: Metaquestion...
[11:43] <eck> i'm not sure how you would do the mime thing manually
[11:43] <Sh3r1ff> opapo: just say you need help with bind9 and dhcp3, don't mention ubuntu ;)
[11:43] <Pelo> lmentoxx,   tar  /sources /deatination
[11:43] <GomoX> opapo: in which way it "doesn't receive them"?
[11:44] <GomoX> are they correctly wired to the same hub?
[11:44] <p1ls> So the command in fluxbux to set up your bg whenever you turn fluxbux on is to edit your startup file, and add this fbsetbg -l, i did that but it dosent work right
[11:44] <Fylk> Any one know if its possible to run the Engage dock without installing enlightenment?
[11:44] <Ronald|Laptop> Pelo: it ain't working yet, keep the compliments for later
[11:44] <Huffameg> I have just switched my system from Windows to ubuntu. my keypad has a number pad within the letters which is supposed to be activated when I press a button ("Fn") but this does not seem to work in ubuntu.. is there some way to fix this?
[11:44] <p1ls> i have to type the command fbsetbg /directory/ to chage the bg
[11:44] <Fylk> Huffameg: What kind of machine?
[11:44] <lmentoxx> sources being the file ie \desktop\steve transfer destination \desktop?
[11:44] <dyrne> p1ls: download eterm maybe
[11:44] <Pelo> Ronald|Laptop,  I'm a lowsy h4xor that wasn't much of a compliment
[11:44] <dyrne> p1ls: nm
[11:44] <`Crash> where can i find intructions on recompile`ing kernel?
[11:44] <Huffameg> Fylk, Dell Inspiron 6400
[11:45] <opapo> GomoX: I see in the log file:  DHCPDISCOVER from 00:0d:56:ae:f9:16 (daniel-laptop) via eth0
[11:45] <Fylk> Ok, give me a moment.
[11:45] <p1ls> dyrne i have eterm installed
[11:45] <eck> `Crash: there are instructions on the ubuntu wiki
[11:45] <opapo> and: DHCPOFFER on <IP_ADDRESS> to 00:0d:56:ae:f9:16 (daniel-laptop) via eth0
[11:45] <Pelo> lmentoxx,   / not \  and destination will be a file name with the extension tar.gz
[11:45] <opapo> repeatedly
[11:45] <GomoX> but the client never binds to the IP?
[11:45] <Pelo> lmentoxx,  have a look at  man tar  , there are a lot of options you can use
[11:45] <lmentoxx> ok
[11:45] <lmentoxx> thanks
[11:46] <Fylk> Huffameg: Go to keyboard preferences, and choose the dell latitude series laptop layouts.
[11:46] <opapo> GomoX: sometimes it does
[11:46] <nosrednaekim> reminds me...anyone heer buy one of those dell ubuntu laptops?
[11:46] <opapo> If I wait for several minutes sometimes it works
[11:46] <dyrne> p1ls: been awhile since i fooled with flux. i think i always used complete path or maybe had a variable set
[11:46] <GomoX> opapo: hmm
[11:46] <Pelo> nosrednaekim, they are just out, give it a few days and a few more for delivery
[11:47] <GomoX> opapo: you need specialised troubleshooting, try #dhcp or #networking
[11:47] <nosrednaekim> Pelo: yeah I know.... but did anyone order one?
[11:47] <GomoX> opapo: #debian is not bad either just don't mention you are using ubuntu
[11:47] <schasi> p1ls: Did you try if the bg command works at all?
[11:47] <p1ls> ywes
[11:47] <Pelo> and nosrednaekim if dell did their job right we should never see a dellubuntu user in here
[11:47] <p1ls> yes
[11:47] <opapo> GomoX: I didn't mention last time, but I used the ubuntu pastebin
[11:47] <schasi> p1ls: And there are global and user startup files iirc. You have to get the right ones
[11:47] <GomoX> opapo: heh
[11:47] <opapo> I may be marked
[11:48] <opapo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:48] <Fylk> Huffameg: Did you get that?
[11:48] <Pelo> nosrednaekim, I don't know I haven'T heard of anyone,  but there were a few ppl stating interest last week
[11:48] <Huffameg> Fylk: yeah, i changed, but it doesn't seem to help..
[11:48] <Fylk> Is numberlock on?
[11:49] <Huffameg> Fylk: <3<3<3
[11:49] <schasi> Pelo: Cant you define a shortcut or something for that?
[11:49] <Pelo> schasi,  for what ?  the beryl thing ?   it was just a joke
[11:49] <eck> or change the channel topic :-)
[11:50] <schasi> Pelo: I persuaded the joke further
[11:50] <Pelo> Tom47,  dellubuntu users will be welcome , but we will need to brush up on our  "find the on switch" skills
[11:51] <nosrednaekim> schasi: there is alread !beryl
[11:51] <Pelo> schasi,  persued
[11:51] <makuseru> hi, my amarok keeps saying i have no MP3 support but when i click "install mp3 support" nothing happens, how can i get it to play mp3s?
[11:51] <Pelo> nosrednaekim,  no what he meant
[11:51] <Tom47> !coc
[11:51] <ubotwo> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[11:51] <Sh3r1ff> makuseru: install gstreamer codecs
[11:51] <quio> I am new to ubuntu and have read up a bit on different things like getting my wireless working.  How can I sepparate my screen though like in XP where I could extend my desktop?
[11:51] <Pelo> makuseru,  if you reinstall the mp3 support that might be enough for amorak to recognise it ,  it might reset a few thing
[11:52] <Huffameg> Fylk: can I ask you another question? how do i fix my resolution options?
[11:52] <makuseru> Pelo: i did, i reinstalled ALL my codecs
[11:52] <schasi> Pelo: pursue ;-)
[11:52] <Fylk> Do you want to use Terminal or Synaptic?
[11:52] <Pelo> quio, do you mean having two screens with one desktop streching on boot ?
[11:52] <Jeeaar> ok, so i've gotten VLC installed, how do I open an mp3 with it?
[11:52] <colbert> How do I see what was changed in the last system update????
[11:52] <nosrednaekim> makuseru: sudo apt-get instll xine-extracodecs
[11:52] <gnomefreak> nosrednaekim: that is a bit offtopic. if you want to continue join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:52] <quio> yes
[11:52] <nosrednaekim> Tom47: was that meant for me?
[11:53] <Pelo> makuseru,  reinstall amorak
[11:53] <PriceChild> nosrednaekim, libxine-extracodecs
[11:53] <Sh3r1ff> colbert, file open mostly works ;)
[11:53] <nosrednaekim> PriceChild: yeah sorry
[11:53] <Pelo> Jeeaar,  did you install mp3 support ?
[11:53] <Fylk> Huffameg: What chipset?
[11:53] <Pelo> quio, do you already have your second monitor working ?
[11:53] <Jeeaar> i beleive so. libdvdcss2?
[11:53] <Huffameg> Fylk: whatever is easiest.. i tried to use terminal through a guide i got here, but for some reason it all stopped.. chipset? how do i find that out?
[11:53] <Pelo> Jeeaar,  that is for dvd
[11:53] <colbert> ? no i mean in the Update Manager.. i did an update today that has broken my sound and i need to see a log or something to see exactly what was changed
[11:54] <Pelo> !mp3 | Jeeaar
[11:54] <ubotwo> Jeeaar: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:54] <Fylk> the guide is extremely out of date.
[11:54] <Huffameg> aha..
[11:54] <Fylk> Huffameg: Go to Synaptic, and search for intel.
[11:54] <makuseru> Pelo: done a complete uninstall and purge then install five times
[11:54] <Fylk> Huffameg: Go to Synaptic, and search for intel.
[11:54] <Sh3r1ff> colbert: in synaptic you can see the history
[11:54] <Huffameg> Fylk: okay.. 1 sec
[11:55] <Huffameg> Fylk: yes?
[11:55] <colbert> Sh3r1ff thanks i see it
[11:55] <nosrednaekim> makuseru: do a  "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"
[11:55] <nosrednaekim> makuseru: that will get you mp3 support
[11:55] <Fylk> Huffameg: Look for xserver-xorg-video-i740, or whichever one matches your chip.
[11:55] <Pelo> makuseru,  then I am out of ideas,  try finding an amorak channel maybe they can help or an amorak forum maybe,   i fyou are using kubuntu also give the #kubuntu channel a try , amorak is default on their version
[11:56] <quio> Pelo  I have a laptop and if I hit the key on the laptop to switch monitor it goes to either the laptop monitor or the lcd.  I was hoping to be able to move the mouse and aps as I did in XP accross both.
[11:56] <chick_> How can a run a logout script on logout of a gnome session?
[11:56] <Huffameg> Fylk: i can choose between 740, 810 and intel..
[11:56] <Sh3r1ff> makuseru: have you tried open it with another program?
[11:56] <Fylk> Huffameg: Choose the intel one.
[11:56] <colbert> http://pastebin.ca/510413 <-- this has broken my sound.. anyone ideas ??
[11:56] <jXP3> can't launch apache 2.2.4 with php 5.2.2. Cannot load /usr/local/apache2/modules/libphp5.so into server: /usr/local/apache2/modules/libphp5.so: undefined symbol: _efree. Got this error when launching. Can any body help solve this?
[11:56] <Pelo> quio,  it can be done,  I do not know how but I can be done , many ppl have done, it   look in the forums for instrucions,  search for dual monitors,   and ask here periodicaly,  maybe someone that knows will join and be able to hlep you
[11:57] <Huffameg> Fylk: ok..
[11:57] <Fylk> Huffameg: You do have intergrated intel chip, yes?
[11:57] <makuseru> Pelo: done a complete uninstall and purge then install five times
[11:57] <Huffameg> Fylk: not yet..
[11:57] <quio> Pelo Thanks.  I can deal with it now but sometimes its convenient to use both.
[11:58] <nosrednaekim> bye Pelo
[11:58] <Huffameg> Fylk: ok, done..
[11:58] <makuseru> Sh3r1ff: yes, mp3s work in everything else
[11:58] <Fylk> Huffameg: Reboot.
[11:58] <Huffameg> ok.. thx..
[11:58] <Pelo> makuseru,   heard the first time,  i gave you my suggestions for further help , I cannot help you with this clearly it is more complicated then what I am user to dealing with
[11:58] <Pelo> later folks
[11:58] <makuseru> Pelo: didnt mean to resent it
[11:58] <nosrednaekim> makuseru: did you run that command I said?
[11:58] <Sh3r1ff> makuseru: purge amarok and reinstall it again andmake sure the settings are correct
[11:59] <Dave|Away> AWAY I'm going away due to: Going to KFC bbl  The time is 4:58:51 PM. Pager is ON . Logs are OFF.
[11:59] <makuseru> Sh3r1ff: did that 5 times already
[11:59] <makuseru> nosrednaekim: there already the newest version
[11:59] <iphv37> Pelo, i think the problem is my pc getting slower!!
[11:59] <nosrednaekim> makuseru: you installed that package?
[11:59] <makuseru> its already the newest version
[11:59] <MrObvious> Hi. How do I enable mp3 playing on 7.04?
[11:59] <nosrednaekim> makuseru: its installed?
[12:00] <Q_Continuum> This one has the backlight going, so its time for a new laptop anyways
[12:00] <K`zan> Well, I seem to have hosed nfs on this box completely, nothing has changed other than the server now refuses permissions for any nfs mount and everything still checks out, sigh.
[12:00] <makuseru> FOR THE LAST TIME! IT IS ALREADY THE NEWEST VERSION
[12:00] <nosrednaekim> !mp3 | MrObvious
[12:00] <gnomefreak> !mp3 > MrObvious | please read your pm from ubotu
[12:00] <ubotwo> MrObvious: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:00] <MrObvious> Great.
[12:00] <gnomefreak> makuseru: lose the caps please
[12:00] <MrObvious> Thanks!
[12:00] <PurpZeY> colbert: this log doesn't say anything about your sound
[12:00] <makuseru> gnomefreak: no, it bothers me to repeat myself over and over and over
[12:01] <mikael_> hello somebody speack french
[12:01] <gnomefreak> makuseru: than ignore them


[00:53] <krissi> Hello, I just installed kubuntu 14.04 and i can't find my mic
[02:08] <valorie> hi krissi - 14.04 help in #ubuntu+1
[02:54] <ironhoof> Hey, just a quickie I hope, but a friend of mine wants a good e-mail pop notifier, in the kubuntu install I gave him. You have any recommendations?
[05:39] <kde_new> hi how do i make krunner search my pdf docs. Gnome shell shows the docs when i press the super key and search but kde does not show it. My Docs are placed in the Documents directory in home but i still dont see it getting properly searched. Any settings to enable for better search and any tags to be added in Dolphin for this ?
[05:40] <kde_new> i am using Kubuntu 13.10 KDE 4.12.3
[05:42] <Caucas> are you sure krunner is able to do that?
[05:43] <kde_new> Caucas: how do you search docs. i see only few getting searched. I understand the search daemon which starts with Alphabet N does that but how do you trigger it. I believe its only through krunner right ?
[05:44] <kde_new> Caucas: i mean i want something like what i see in gnome-shell. I press Super button and i search for some pdf and i type the name and it shows it and i press enter thats it. Can i do something like this in KDE ?
[05:48] <Caucas> I think the krunner scope is limited. He doesn't have access to file system, so you can install KSearch and enjoy ;)
[05:50] <kde_new> Caucas: so by default you cannot do this in KDE. you need an other application to be installed is it ? :o
[05:51] <Caucas> you can aslo use console ;)
[05:52] <Caucas> Or Dolphin finder
[05:53] <kde_new> oh ok i was under the impression that i can do this from krunner like how gnome shell does straight
[05:58] <Graf_Westerholt> kde_new, you can enable Nepomuk-Search-Plugin in Krunner. ;)
[06:13] <kde_new> Graf_Westerholt: how do i do that ?
[06:13] <Graf_Westerholt> kde_new, do you not have a „settings“-button in krunner?
[06:14] <kde_new> oh ok so by default is disabled and we have to manually enable it. On enabling it i can search all my docs from krunner. Is that right .
[06:15] <Graf_Westerholt> I guess.
[06:15] <Graf_Westerholt> Why do you not just try it?
[06:52] <Guest58613> hello
[06:52] <ussher_> hi
[06:52] <Guest58613> i just test it for fun
[06:52] <ussher_> having fun?
[06:53] <Guest58613> yeah
[06:53] <ussher_> great. :)
[06:57] <Guest58613> I'm a new linuxer how can i start
[08:09] <kubuntu_beta> Hello :)
[08:09] <kubuntu_beta>  Can Kubuntu be installed within windows?
[08:17] <kubuntu_beta> 	/j  ubuntu+1
[08:38] <goose00014000> If you needed a particular command in Linux while using the console, but you didn't know what the command was and didn't have internet access, is there a particular command you can use to search for it? Consider both of these scenarios: 1) You have a vaque memory of what the command is or you remember what the first couple of letters of the command are; 2) You don't remember the command at all and
[08:55] <alucardromero> Hi everybody, question here: Acer Aspire 772G here, UEFI disabled (SecureBoot as well), boots to GUI just fine (as you can see I'm typing in Quassel, however while installing, Windows partition isn't accounted for in partitioner.  But in File Manager, I see the partition.  Any clues on how to get Win7 partition seen?
[08:56] <alucardromero> I have read a lot of the documentation on ubuntuforums.org
[10:02] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:44] <soa2ii> Hi. I just tried the 14.04 beta and if you choose german during install you still end up on a half translated KDE session after installation … is this a known bug or expected behaviour?
[11:17] <lordievader> soa2ii: Trusty support is in #ubuntu+1 until Trusty is released.
[11:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:30] <hdy> Hallo! Ich habe Probleme mit der Farbtiefe meiner Ati Radeon 3650 unter KDE 4.11.5!  Ich werde weiter suchen ;)
[11:54] <Graf_Westerholt> hdy, klar gibt es  #kubuntu-de
[13:36] <naftilos76> Hi i am trying to use some kind of dvd ripping app in kubuntu but the output files in dvdrip and acidrip are a few kbytes and that's it. Could it be a missing installed package related to the codecs?
[15:07] <Mamarok> what alternative is there to parted? Apparently I ran into a double free error and all frontends I know use libparted as well (partitionmanager and kvpm)
[15:12] <ikonia> Mamarok: that's worrying
[15:12] <ikonia> parteds pretty much become the standard for most
[15:13] <Mamarok> yes, so having a double free error is really not good
[15:13] <Mamarok> there is fdisk maybe? Haven't used that in ages
[15:14] <Mamarok> I tried partitionmanagaer, then kvpm, then parted directly, all produce the same error
[15:14] <Mamarok> so libparded is to blame :(
[15:14] <lordievader> Mamarok: Fdisk doesn't support gpt, so it is an alternative for mbr based disks.
[15:16] <Mamarok> apparently a similar error was already reported in 2009, and there was a gcc4 patch: bug 371595
[15:16] <Mamarok> with a much older version of parted though, current is 2.3
[15:17] <Mamarok> but that bug above is related to long path names, I have a simple /dev/sdb
[15:25] <Mamarok> I just wonder why we use such an old version, current is 3.1, released in 2012
[15:26] <Mamarok> and apparently that was solved in 3.1: from the changelog of 3.1:
[15:26] <Mamarok> libparted: avoid an invalid free when creating many partitions in
[15:26] <Mamarok>   a GPT partition table.  [bug introduced in parted-1.9.0]
[15:27]  * Mamarok goes to fetch version 3.1
[15:27] <lordievader> Mamarok: That might be the sync from Debian, stable offers 2.3-12.
[15:27] <OerHeks> gdisk supports gpt too
[15:27] <lordievader> !info parted trusty
[15:27] <OerHeks> !info gdisk
[15:28] <Mamarok> why do we use such an old parted library?
[15:29] <Mamarok> I know why: "Parted (post-2.4) no longer has the ability to create and modify file systems"
[15:30] <ikonia> Mamarok: this just seems silly
[15:30] <Mamarok> totally
[15:30] <Mamarok> like going back to the stone age
[15:30] <ikonia> it seems more silly as libparted is becoming 'the' standard
[15:31] <Mamarok> then maybe we have to rethink the standard, seriously
[15:31] <lordievader> Doesn't parted give you a warning when you use it to make filesystems?
[15:32] <ikonia> Mamarok: or maybe actually keep up to date with bug fixes (especially critical ones) on the standard
[15:35] <Mamarok> yeah, but hey, a simple parted -l on /dev/sdb causes the crash, I never even come mear to create a partition or a file system
[15:35] <Mamarok> near*
[15:36] <lordievader> Oeh, that's nasty.
[15:37] <ctabuyo> hello
[15:38] <ctabuyo> I´m windows user and I wanna change to Linux but I don´t like ubuntu´s visual aspect. So I´m wondering if in kubuntu you can download the same programms that in ubuntu?
[15:39] <ctabuyo> please help me
[15:39] <lordievader> ctabuyo: Jup, it even uses the same core ;)
[15:40] <ctabuyo> Thank you lordievader I´m gonna install kubuntu in my pc :)
[15:40] <lordievader> \o/
[15:42] <OerHeks> ctabuyo, kubuntu might have better versions of programs, K3B <> brasero and more
[15:44] <ctabuyo> I never changed to Linux because I like to play games with my pc but today I read about wine. Someone here uses Wine for games? Does it ralentize the frame rate?
[15:46] <lordievader> ctabuyo: Somethings work well in Wine, others not so much. [1] is a quite usefull resource for Wine. [1] http://appdb.winehq.org/
[15:47] <ctabuyo> Thank you very much lordievader, I hope I´ll be too much happy in Linux than in Windows(It´s an horrible SO)...
[17:42] <Roey> hey all how do I know if I have the IRQPOLL linux option enabled?
[18:25] <ronnoc> Riddell: Many cool new Ku artworks being added to the Kubuntu Forum, if you're looking for something to blog about :)
[18:25] <ronnoc> https://www.kubuntuforums.net/forumdisplay.php?35-Artwork
[18:37] <OerHeks> ronnoc sure, thanks for the url
[18:39] <ronnoc> OerHeks: anytime
[18:51] <Roey> hey all how do I know if I have the IRQPOLL linux option enabled?
[20:29] <Voyage> hi
[20:29] <Voyage> How to add scanner in kubuntu?
[20:41] <Voyage> !scanner | Voyage
[20:49] <Voyage> How to add scanner in kubuntu?
[21:07] <Voyage> it seems I cant get my scanner detected and usable, I have installed sane/xsane/hplib and used following http://pastie.org/8997102 but seems like with no luck. Any help?
[21:09] <Voyage> the printer is detected though
[21:16] <Roey> hey all how do I know if I have the IRQPOLL linux option enabled?
[21:20] <Voyage> http://pastie.org/8997133 any help for scanner?
[21:55] <valorie> ronnoc: the newest images I see on kub-forums is 2006!
[21:55] <valorie> someone needs to upload something new and get people stirred up again
[22:07] <valorie> ronnoc: I was using the url wrong; now I see the new stuff
[22:07] <valorie> really interesting
[22:09] <ronnoc> valorie: lol
[22:09] <ronnoc> :)
[22:09] <ronnoc> would be so much easier for things like artwork if bodega was implemented to replace GHNS. Sigh.
[22:19] <Guest55489> hi Im experience weird behavior with Muon discover. when I search for something, many packages do not show up. However if search in the package manager they do
[22:20] <Guest55489> all the ppas seem to be configured correctly. Is this normal?\
[22:26] <valorie> Guest55489: if you search specifically for one of the missing packages, does it show up?
[22:26] <valorie> ronnoc: work in progress
[22:26] <valorie> and in fact, the kubuntuforums people will be able to set up their own bodega if they want
[22:26] <valorie> the few sales could support the forum
[22:27] <valorie> or they could offer memberships
[22:30] <Guest55489> no it doesn't
[22:31] <valorie> hmmm
[22:31] <valorie> discover is set up to offer applications, not packages
[22:32] <valorie> so I would say if something is part of an app, rather than an app, then you won't find it
[22:32] <valorie> but if it is missing applications, then please file on/find and comment on a bug
[22:33] <Guest55489> ok this makes sense, how does it decide the difference between packages and apps
[22:34] <valorie> I'm not sure
[22:34] <valorie> perhaps by dependencies
[22:34] <valorie> applications have them
[22:35] <valorie> but are in general not dependencies of anything beyond the meta-packages such as kubuntu-desktop
[22:36] <Guest55489> alright thanks that explains alot
[22:39] <valorie> tbh, I don't like software centers, so I use muon package manager or the cli
[22:39] <valorie> apt-cache search is pretty neato
[23:33] <ronnoc> valorie: bodega allows tagging to determine what type of content it is
[23:33] <ronnoc> so determining what's an app vs. a wallpaper vs. a plasmoid is pretty simple
[23:34] <valorie> yes, I can hardly wait for us to be able to use it
[23:35] <valorie> kde-look and kde-apps is filled with junk and spam
[23:35] <valorie> not a nice face for kde to the world


[13:35] <chrisccoulson> could someone please approve those ^^
[14:48] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, would you be able to approve Flash? (see my earlier comment ^^). Not sure if you'll have time
[15:50] <chrisccoulson> infinity ^^ (would you be able to approve the Flash uploads for me please?) :)
[15:51] <infinity> chrisccoulson: Maybe.
[15:51] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[15:51] <infinity> chrisccoulson: P/T/V/W?
[15:51] <chrisccoulson> infinity, yeah
[15:53] <infinity> chrisccoulson: +1 for fixing the versioning.
[16:10] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson, infinity: fyi I did the copy from -proposed to release for partner for adobe-flashplugin just now
[16:10] <jdstrand> infinity: thanks for the acceptance
[16:11] <chrisccoulson> infinity, jdstrand - thanks!
[17:16] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Would you be able to update ubuntu-mate-meta please?
[18:00] <Mirv> re-asking qt3d-opensource-src demoting to universe now that checkbox dropped build depedency on it
[18:03] <slangasek> Mirv: done
[18:10] <Mirv> thanks steve!
[20:49] <xnox> autopkgtest is on fire Undefined subroutine &Debian::Debhelper::Buildsystem::kf5::dpkg_architecture_value called at /usr/share/perl5/Debian/Debhelper/Buildsystem/kf5.pm line 47.
[20:49] <xnox> not sure what's that about


[01:15] <Jon_> anyone here
[01:17] <Jon_> i'm a new kubuntu user. installed full Ubuntu with Unity. I like Kubuntu. But I have problem. If I show the Trash icon on the task manager panel and then proceed to move it right of the clock just left of the Panel Tool Box then when I relog in I'll get a black screen.
[01:18] <Jon_> if the trash icon is not right of the clock readout then I don't seem to get the problem
[01:18] <Jon_> i am using 14.04 LTS Ubuntu with the KDE Kubuntu installed
[01:23] <Jon_> problem is if anybody can duplicate my problem then they might lose their appearance settings... if i use "sudo rm -rf .kde/share/config/plasma-*" after pressing ctrl-alt-f2 and enterining user/pswrd then it will allow me to log in but deletes the settings
[01:24] <Jon_> i alos tried eeleting all the config settings but the problem remains
[01:27] <Jon_> i need a suggestion of where to go to find help about this
[03:47] <flameaway> Hello
[03:47] <flameaway> I'm having a bit of trouble with a Kubuntu install.  I install it and then it refuses to boot to that install.
[03:49] <flameaway> Any help would be appreciated
[03:52] <flameaway> What is strange that I can see the encrypted volume.  But when I take the CD out of the drive and reboot, K asks me to insert boot media and hit enter
[03:53] <flameaway> Anyone?
[03:57] <flameaway> {sighs}
[03:59] <flameaway> could really used some help here...
[06:48] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:11] <amministratore> chi ha vista ita
[11:51] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:25] <fujio> how do I stop networkmanager in kubuntu?
[12:25] <fujio> Tehre is no init script in kubuntu
[12:28] <tsimpson> "sudo service network-manager stop"
[12:28] <rberg> yep it looks to be a upstart job so its in /etc/init/ not init.d
[12:30] <fujio> thanks that worked
[12:50] <PieandVinyl> Hi ladies and gents. I'm having wireless dropouts on my new lappy with an haswell intel 7260. Tends to be stable after turning the wifi on and off a few times and networkmanager shows a good connection when there isn't one. Anyone got any ideas? Even if generic?
[12:55] <hateball> PieandVinyl: what release/kernel are you running?
[12:55] <hateball> In my experience it can take Intel some time to catch up with their newer chipset modules
[12:58] <PieandVinyl> 14.04 and 3.13.0-35. You're probably right.
[13:00] <hateball> PieandVinyl: You could try using backported modules, or a newer kernel
[13:01] <hateball> PieandVinyl: Googling for your chipset + kernel usually turns up interesting results :)
[13:04] <PieandVinyl> Same old story, googled everything but never thought of that search term. There's some interesting results indeed. Cheers, I'll have a read.
[13:07] <hateball> hmmm, is there no linux-backports-modules package any longer...
[13:08] <ozooner__> PieandVinyl, I have same intel chipset and dropouts with 3.13. Upgrading to 3.15 (or 3.16) solved the issue
[13:11] <PieandVinyl> ozooner_: Ah right. That's good news!
[13:12] <PieandVinyl> hateball: I'll have a look at a newer kernel then!
[13:17] <hateball> PieandVinyl: Good luck in your quest for stable wifi :)
[14:31] <frop> hello
[14:32] <Mdgd`> Hey guys
[14:32] <frop> I'm running a Live-Kubuntu from an USB-key and I'm having problems using "mplayer" and smb:// streams
[14:32] <Mdgd`> Does anyone know if it is possible to install Kubuntu with LVM and an encrypted partition, using a manual partition scheme? NOT using the entire disk?
[14:33] <frop> I installed VLC and I can watch these stream just right
[14:33] <frop> even tried to install gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad with no success
[14:33] <Mdgd`> I was referred to the "alternate" CD in a forum post but A. it's broken, B. it's discontinued as of 12.something
[14:35] <Mdgd`> Seems like a pretty drastic downgrade if that's really the case..
[14:37] <frop> did you try something like this? http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-lvm-partitions/
[14:38] <Mdgd`> frop, I've already made the partitions, but the Kubuntu installer doesn't supported LVM crypts.
[14:38] <Mdgd`> Unless you're prepared to wipe your HDD
[14:40] <Mdgd`> Which kinda strikes me like offering people the option of installing a door lock.
[14:40] <Mdgd`> As long as they're willing to replace all their windows with doors.
[14:41] <Mdgd`> Pretty ludicrous demand to set..
[14:43] <shadeslayer> Mdgd`: re using manual partitioning scheme, no
[14:43] <shadeslayer> fwiw there is no manual partitioning scheme, since you can just resize lvm partitions on the fly
[14:43] <shadeslayer> so seems pointless
[14:43] <Mdgd`> shadeslayer, okay. Are you familiar with a Linux distro that *does* support it?
[14:43] <Mdgd`> Fedora?
[14:43] <shadeslayer> not off the top of my head
[14:43] <Mdgd`> Haha
[14:44] <Mdgd`> Oh man if only
[14:44] <shadeslayer> why can't you just resize lvm partitions after installation?
[14:44] <shadeslayer> also
[14:44] <Mdgd`> I tried, but maybe those tools were discontinued with 12 too..
[14:44] <shadeslayer> you could technically preseed it
[14:44] <shadeslayer> !preseeding
[14:44] <shadeslayer> hm nope
[14:44] <BluesKaj> Mdgd`, i assume you've read this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpLVM-WithoutACleanInstall
[14:45] <Mdgd`> I followed the Ubuntu tutorial on LVM resizing - first half was redundant as everything was set by default, second half just spat out errors.
[14:45] <lordievader> Mdgd`: The mini iso can setup encrypted lvm partitions however you like.
[14:45] <Mdgd`> Mini iso?
[14:45] <shadeslayer> or you know, preseeding
[14:45] <BluesKaj> !minimal
[14:45] <lordievader> Mdgd`: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:46] <Mdgd`> Thanks guys
[14:46] <Mdgd`> Does *this* one support wifi?
[14:46] <shadeslayer> Mdgd`: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-using.html & https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[14:46] <shadeslayer> Mdgd`: mini ISO doesn't support wifi I think
[14:46] <shadeslayer> haven't tried it though
[14:47] <Mdgd`> Oh well. As long as it can set up a single LVM crypt alongside other partitions, and it supports KDE, I'll take it.
[14:47] <shadeslayer> Mdgd`: search for partitioning on the second link
[14:49] <Mdgd`> Alright, I gotta cut this connection to run this install
[14:49] <Mdgd`> Thanks for the help fellas
[14:51] <BluesKaj> good luck Mdgd`
[14:56] <frop> ok, seems like will be impossible use smplayer and media stored on a samba share
[14:56] <frop> is there really no solution to this?
[14:57] <frop> ...guess an http/ftp server will do :P
[15:02] <BluesKaj> frop, on your LAN?
[15:03] <frop> yes
[15:04] <frop> I can browse the share in dolphin
[15:04] <frop> I can play the media with VLC
[15:04] <frop> just can't using smplayer
[15:04] <frop> nor the default kubuntu videoplayer
[15:06] <BluesKaj> frop, I've experienced the same problem with mplayer and dragonplayer, they aren't quite as advanced in terms of streaming options as VLC
[15:06] <frop> it's not about the player itself...more likely it's KDE/kio fault
[15:07] <frop> using ubuntu (and .gvfs) there's no such problem
[15:11] <BluesKaj> well, frop that was my experience, it could be a kio problem, but I use VLC as default so I guess it's immaterial in my case. Have you considered filing a bug? or asking in #kubuntu-devel
[15:11] <frop> seems like the "kio" bug is an old one :)
[15:14] <BluesKaj> no doubt ..unfortunately media in and out seems to take a back seat on kde in general
[15:14] <frop> trying now, via ftp...let's see
[15:15] <frop> eheh, works perferctly
[15:18] <frop> gonna uninstall vlc
[15:18] <frop> it bugs out sometimes, leaving the media without audio
[15:44] <fuorviatos> guys I've probably found a crtical  bug in fglrx or KDE screenserver. How can I find out which one is the cause?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> fuorviatos, describe your issue in more detail
[15:48] <fuorviatos> BluesKaj: when using fglrx driver after suspending and waking up with the kscreensaver a hang occurs
[15:49] <fuorviatos> the only solution is to hard-reboot
[15:49] <fuorviatos> no such issue with intel driver
[15:51] <lordievader> fuorviatos: Haven't seen that issue here.
[15:52] <fuorviatos> lordievader - does that mean it is not an issue ;) ?
[15:52] <BluesKaj> fuorviatos, ok, what about desktop effects and OpenGL settings, any issues there?
[15:52] <lordievader> fuorviatos: No, it just means that I can not confirm it ;)
[15:53] <fuorviatos> BluesKaj: not really - because intel works like a charm with them
[15:54] <fuorviatos> I suppose it is a fglrx-related bug
[15:54] <BluesKaj> so you have a hybrid gpu setup
[15:54] <fuorviatos> Yep
[15:54] <fuorviatos> which is supposed to work without problems with 14.04
[15:55] <fuorviatos> it already did with 12.04
[15:55] <fuorviatos> that's why I'm kind of excluding the hardware here
[15:55] <BluesKaj> if your high level gpu was nvidia we could probly help, but amd/ati is more difficult
[15:56] <fuorviatos> I'm gonna open this as a bug under fglrx package upstream
[15:56] <lordievader> It might very well be the hybrid thing, I can imagine such things are tricky.
[15:57] <fuorviatos> BluesKaj: out of my curiosity - why is nvidia easier to solve?
[15:57] <lordievader> And that something is supposed to work doesn't mean it works.
[15:57] <BluesKaj> yes, but make sure you include the dual gpus in the explanation
[15:58] <fuorviatos> lordievader: Well, it should because 12.04 introduced a special xorg and kernel to support such chipsets. This was official support by Ubuntu.
[15:58] <BluesKaj> intel/nivida has more optional support as well as bumblebee
[15:58] <lordievader> fuorviatos: Have you looked in the logs what might be the issue?
[15:59] <fuorviatos> BluesKaj, lordievader - please note that my issue doesn't occur while switching
[15:59] <fuorviatos> lordievader: I cannot see nothing in the logs
[15:59] <lordievader> fuorviatos: So you can see something :P
[15:59] <fuorviatos> ;)
[15:59] <fuorviatos> Thanks for the support
[15:59] <fuorviatos> Try to report that
[16:00] <fuorviatos> what is the package name of kde screensaver?
[16:01] <lordievader> fuorviatos: kscreensaver
[16:21] <skinux> I'm looking for some help configuring "Windows" key to open KDE Menu.
[16:21] <lordievader> skinux: Last time I checked that wasn't possible, since the Windows key (super) is a modifier.
[16:23] <skinux> Okay
[16:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Shoot, I was going to tell skinux to bind it to Alt+F1
[19:57] <veqz> how can I install gstreamer1.0 on 14.04?
[20:12] <genii> !info gstreamer1.0-x
[20:13] <genii> Hm.
[20:43] <cjwelborn> I binded mine to Meta + Z, they're very close together so it's almost like a plain 'Meta' key press. I have all kinds of shortcut keys that I use. It's so much faster than using the mouse when you are already typing.
[20:43] <cjwelborn> bound*
[21:48] <finetundra> hello. i have a printer/scanner combo. the thig will print fine but i'm unable to figure out how to setup the scanning function
[21:51] <finetundra> it is an hp color laserjet cm2320nf
[21:53] <finetundra> it is detected in simple scan but will not try to scan for some reason
[21:54] <valorie> !scanner
[21:55] <valorie> might be something there for you, finetundra


[05:32] <stlsaint> starcraftman: ping
[05:41] <stlsaint> starcraftman: nvrm i panicked...all is well
[13:11] <Traveler> hi
[13:12] <Guest70120> Guest70120
[13:12] <Guest70120> hi
[20:08] <mdke_> nixternal: you've deleted scripts/ and libs/ in the kubuntu-docs branch?
[20:09] <mdke_> nixternal: that makes the branch structure different to the other projects, isn't that something that is worth discussing? Obviously I can see the reasoning for starting fresh on some docs, but structural changes should probably be universal across our branches
[20:10] <j1mc> mdke_: the doc structure is not similar in xubuntu, but that was not of my doing
[20:12] <mdke_> j1mc: it looks like someone played around with where the directories are instead of fixing the paths, but the libs/ and scripts/ directories still exist
[20:13] <j1mc> mdke_: do you mean in xubuntu docs, or in kubuntu docs?
[20:14] <mdke_> in xubuntu-docs
[20:14] <mdke_> but the various branches are diverging a bit more than I'd like :(
[20:15] <j1mc> mdke_: i'm actually going to be rebasing off of ubuntu docs for this release
[20:15] <j1mc> using docbook.
[20:15] <nixternal> mdke_: I can s/customization/libs/ if it is that important
[20:15] <mdke_> cool. I'm happy to help with any issues you encounter with the toolchain if you hit any
[20:15] <nixternal> scripts is still there
[20:16] <mdke_> nixternal: hmm.
[20:16] <mdke_> nixternal: oh, I see, you removed things and then readded them. Yes, I think that consistent naming is important
[20:16] <nixternal> right
[20:16] <nixternal> ok, that is no prob...easy enough...heading out, but I will fix that when I get back
[20:16] <mdke_> thanks
[20:16] <nixternal> np
[20:17] <mdke_> I've upgraded the branch on launchpad just now
[20:17] <nixternal> we deleted all the old docs...starting fresh :)
[20:17] <nixternal> the old ones were so out of date, that updating would take more time than rewriting
[20:17] <mdke_> hopefully that won't cause any issues
[20:17] <nixternal> no, I hope to have a very good base done before the end of the year so it can start getting translated
[20:18] <nixternal> and remove all of the templates out of LP since they are a mess
[20:18] <j1mc> i think the translation team is going to open things up for translation around alpha 3
[20:19] <nixternal> ok, heading out...bbiab
[20:21] <j1mc> and i think the translation coordinators are going to "block" (?) the xubuntu and kubuntu docs from translation for karmic for the time being.  david p. and adi r. could explain a bit better.
[20:22] <j1mc> my connection dropped, so i likely missed anything either of you may have said over the past minute or two
[20:23] <shaunm> hey, look, it's j1mc and nixternal at the same time
[20:24] <nixternal> mdke_: changes reverted to match :)
[20:24] <nixternal> ya, but I am leaving for real now, before the SO kicks my arse :)
[20:24] <shaunm> hah
[20:25] <j1mc> shaunm: howdy
[20:25] <shaunm> hey
[20:25] <shaunm> how's the first weekend in march looking for you?
[20:25] <j1mc> shaunm: milo helped me w/ some basic mallard docs at UDS
[20:26] <shaunm> good.  milo's good people
[20:27] <j1mc> he helped me with the linking syntax. i was trying to link from a parent page to a child page, but doing it the other way around is what makes it work.
[20:28] <mdke_> j1mc: I suspect if they block the translations it's because the translators' work wasn't included in the release for karmic. Having said that, it's not too late to get them into -updates
[20:28] <mdke_> hey shaunm
[20:29] <shaunm> hi mdke_
[20:29] <j1mc> mdke_: yes, that sounds about right.
[20:30] <j1mc> mdke_: they have figured out a better way of handling the xubuntu translations.  david planella (sp?) is going to write up the process.
[20:32] <mdke_> ok, I'll wait to read that, as anything that will improve xubuntu-docs translations should also be applicable to ubuntu-docs
[20:32] <mdke_> and the others
[20:34] <j1mc> i think it was mostly a different way of handling xubuntu docs because ours is in universe.
[20:34] <j1mc> ... so what they proposed was mainly to make that a bit easier
[20:36] <mdke_> well, although xubuntu-docs is in universe, it's still present in Rosetta (perhaps as an exception to the usual rule that universe packages aren't translatable through rosetta)
[20:39] <mdke_> let's see what they come up with
[20:44] <shaunm> j1mc: I was talking to kevin harriss about putting something together in chicago
[20:45] <j1mc> shaunm: do you mean a doc-event?
[20:47] <shaunm> j1mc: yeah
[20:48] <j1mc> that would certainly be convenient for me
[20:48] <shaunm> I figured chicago would be easier for everybody
[20:48] <shaunm> well, everybody but me :)
[20:48] <j1mc> :)
[20:51] <j1mc> shaunm: let me know if you'd like any help w/ preparing anything
[22:59] <nixternal> shaunm: I will talk to Kevin some more and get him to host a doc event at his place...it is a perfect spot for working
[23:00] <nixternal> he owes me a beer anyways so I will try and catch up with him right after thanksgiving
[23:20] <dhillon-v10> starcraftman, hi :)


[08:58] <pef> hello
[09:03] <mornfall> wibble
[01:36] <Lathiat> eww
[01:36] <Lathiat> mez dude
[01:36] <Lathiat> i think your talking around on wireless or soemthing
[01:36] <Lathiat> :)
[01:43] <Tm_T> fd Mez
[01:50] <pef> should I use --disable-rpath when it's possible ? I'm packaging a new upstream version of kdissert and it uses --rpath parameter to build libraries
[02:18] <Tm_T> :(
[02:28] <Tm_T> hmm, I think that'll do it
[02:36] <apokryphos> Tm_T: all fine now; down to crazy wifi :P
[02:38] <Mez> ...?
[02:40] <apokryphos> was wondering what was going on
[03:04] <Tm_T> =)
[03:39] <mornfall> hey it's Riddell :)
[03:39] <Riddell> good morning
[03:40] <freeflying> Riddell:skim-1.4.3 released
[03:40] <Mez> morning Riddell
[03:41] <mornfall> freeflying: that almost begs for death penalty *sigh*
[03:42] <freeflying> hope it can solve some problems
[03:42] <mornfall> i mean the colors
[03:43] <freeflying> :(
[03:47] <Riddell> freeflying: excellent (but don't use colours in IRC :)
[03:48] <apokryphos> ;-)
[03:49] <freeflying> Riddell: lintian message given in last release exist in this  still
[03:50] <Riddell> freeflying: there must be a way to do --without-rpath
[03:50] <freeflying> I've done with this option,but it dosen't work
[03:51] <freeflying> maybe shall do something with scim
[03:51] <Riddell> freeflying: have you uploaded to revu?
[03:52] <freeflying> y
[04:05] <Tm_T> freeflying: WTF
[04:06] <Tm_T> nice colours ;)
[04:06] <Tm_T> like ads in webpages
[04:09] <freeflying> sorry for using colors :)
[05:00] <Mez> lol
[05:00] <seaLne> plugged wacom tablet in and started using it, on debian plugged it in mouse stopped working ended up rebooting
[05:03] <Riddell> seaLne: I think I know a good solution to that :)
[05:04] <Riddell> I got some fanmail today from someone who saw my talk at ubuntu love day, I like fanmail
[05:04] <seaLne> yeah well the decision to use sarge was taken while i was down at linux2005 :(
[05:05] <seaLne> cool
[05:06] <Tm_T> Riddell: so why you don't answer to my mails?  FYI, I asked Waldo Bastian about my kdesu fix and he replied that it was the solution for the problem.
[07:09] <Riddell> cmvo: oh excellent, I've been poking people on IRC but got no reply, and waldo hasn't been on
[07:10] <Riddell> so cool, that can be uploaded to breezy-updates
[07:10] <cmvo> I'll be in 3.5 and may get backported to 3.4.
[07:11] <Riddell> 3.4 branch is dead, 3.5 is what's important
[07:11] <cmvo> I was curious and sent him an email :-)
[07:11] <Riddell> I rely on IRC too much :)
[07:12] <cmvo> I found his IRC nick, buyt couldn't find him on any KDE channel.
[07:14] <cmvo> I think putting it in breezy updates should be ok. Or have you found any testers with problems?
[07:15] <Riddell> cmvo: yeah, reports of success on http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/8681
[07:17] <cmvo> Just read it, sounds good.
[07:18] <cmvo> I wanted to try it on hoary, but didn't have the time today.
[07:18] <Riddell> hmm good point, we should support hoary too
[07:19] <Riddell> but there's zero changes in kdesu between breezy and hoary so it'll be fine
[07:19] <Riddell> http://freehackers.org/~tnagy/kdissert/kdissert_1.0.5.dsc
[07:19] <Riddell> kdissert package there needs tidying
[07:19] <cmvo> I think so too, seems the bug could have existed since kde 3.2. I think it worked in kde 3.1.
[07:22] <cmvo> Something else: How is the kubuntu live CD build? chroot and scripts?
[07:23] <Riddell> cmvo: live CD is magic done by kamion and others
[07:23] <Riddell> cmvo: but see the gnome live CD for how to edit it
[07:26] <cmvo> Ok, I'll take a look. I'm thinking about an ubuntu-router on a bootable CD. But no X, just text mode.
[07:27] <Riddell> ubuntu-server is a non X CD
[07:27] <Riddell> not live though
[07:28] <cmvo> I'd need a live version for systems w/o HD.
[07:29] <Riddell> gnome CD have scripts to take apart a live CD and put it together again differently
[07:29] <Riddell> feel free to adapt them to KDE ;)
[07:29] <sebas> Why would you adapt those scripts to a server live cd that doesn't run X anyway?
[08:02] <pef> Riddell: hello jonathan
[08:03] <pef> Riddell: I'm working on new upstream version of kdissert
[08:13] <Riddell> pef: rocking
[08:13] <Riddell> pef: take a look at what upstream did, see if it's worth using http://freehackers.org/~tnagy/kdissert/kdissert_1.0.5.dsc http://freehackers.org/~tnagy/kdissert/kdissert_1.0.5.tar.gz
[08:14] <Riddell> but it's a native package at the moment so that at least needs changing
[08:17] <pef> Riddell: all is ok, I wrote a patch to disable rpath in SConstruct, and now I just have to complete the clean target
[08:19] <Riddell> pef: wow, that'll solve freefling's skim lintian issues too
[08:20] <pef> Riddell: yep, no longer warnings :)
[08:20] <Riddell> pef: can I see the patch?  and have you passed it upstream?
[08:21] <pef> Riddell: just wait a few minutes, I have to go to home, will reconnect quickly :)
[08:21] <Riddell> cool cool
[08:22] <pef> bbl !
[08:34] <cmvo> Got to go. Cu!
[09:36] <pef> Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=858
[09:37] <Riddell> excellent, I'll add that to my list of things to look at
[09:38] <Mez> hmmm
[09:38] <Mez> dissert
[09:38] <Mez> desert
[09:38] <Mez> mmm
[09:40] <pef> Riddell: concerning rpath, I just had to remove something from SConstruct file
[09:48] <Riddell> pef: if you're in a packaging mood, mateedit would be uber-cool
[09:51] <Mez> Riddell: I was going to look at matedit
[09:51] <Riddell> Mez: well whoever gets there first :)
[09:52] <pef> Mez: have you already begin the packaging ?
[09:53] <Mez> no
[09:53] <Mez> just downloading
[09:55] <pef> Riddell: have you another kde apps in mind ?
[09:57] <Riddell> pef: yzis?
[09:57] <Riddell> no idea what the status of that is yet
[09:57] <Riddell> but people are missing the lack o kvim
[10:00] <pef> Mez: if you want to package mateedit, go :) I can find another one to package
[10:13] <tshah> Hey, is the person in change of the kubuntu homepage here?
[10:14] <Riddell> tshah: hi
[10:14] <Riddell> that's me
[10:14] <tshah> Hey, I have a few suggestions for the website
[10:14] <Riddell> cool, let's have them
[10:15] <tshah> ok
[10:15] <tshah> 1. At the top left where it shows the kubuntu logo (in the header). The logo should link back to the home page
[10:15] <Tonio_> Riddell: little question concerning systemsettings
[10:16] <Tonio_> Riddell: is the fact that it is not fully translated a bug in the code, or does it go within a gmo file ?
[10:16] <Tonio_> Riddell: I was assuming it was using the same langage terms than kcontrol right ?
[10:17] <Riddell> it's a bug in kcontrol
[10:18] <Riddell> I think it just doesn't pass the needed --with-lang=foo to the module when it gets loaded
[10:18] <Riddell> I'll get it fixed, it's an important issue
[10:18] <Riddell> I should put kubuntu.org in bzr
[10:18] <Riddell> tshah: good idea
[10:19] <Mez> Riddell: then we can all play ?
[10:20] <tshah> 2. (Still in the header) The tabs on the top right should probably have an "alt" attribute
[10:20] <Riddell> pef: meeting?
[10:20] <pef> Riddell: yep
[10:21] <Riddell> pef: give me some warning!!
[10:21] <Riddell> pef: where is your wiki page?
[10:21] <pef> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoicPefferkorn
[10:23] <Riddell> pef: cool, add kdissert to that
[10:23] <pef> Riddell: packaging new upstream version ?
[10:23] <Riddell> yeah
[10:24] <Riddell> qtparted too, and all the other stuff you have on revu
[10:24] <Tonio_> Riddell: concerning the libssl-dev depedancie issue, would you suggest to upload anyway, or wait ?
[10:24] <Riddell> Tonio_: dunno, what's the issue?
[10:24] <Tonio_> impossible to build any package with pbuilder
[10:24] <Tonio_> because of kdelibs4-dev
[10:25] <Tonio_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:25] <Tonio_>   kdelibs4-dev: Depends: libssl-dev but it is not going to be installed
[10:25] <Tonio_> E: Broken packages
[10:25] <Mez> yeah
[10:25] <Mez> looking at that now
[10:25] <Tonio_> still the same problem than last week, and I just wonder if it is not better to wait for uploading on REVU
[10:26] <Tonio_> I have plenty of packages waiting ;)
[10:26] <Riddell> Tonio_: upload to revu is fine, upload to ubuntu may be best to wait
[10:26] <Riddell> but what's the actualy issue, you need toapt-get install libssl-dev to see what the problem is
[10:26] <Mez> Tonio_, dont you have access to REUV?
[10:26] <Tonio_> Riddell: yes but I can't check if it'll build correctly when the depandancy issue will be corrected...
[10:27] <Tonio_> Mez: I have access, but I don't wan't to upload packages that will may not build correctly ;)
[10:27] <tshah> Riddell: I have a few more problems with the site, should I e-mail you the list (I can even send you the html changes)?
[10:27] <Tonio_> I can't be sure they are good even if they build on breezy
[10:27] <Riddell> tshah: do you have the site code?
[10:27] <tshah> only when I use the "view source" function ;)
[10:27] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'll test that yes
[10:29] <Riddell> tshah: hang on
[10:29] <Mez>   libssl-dev: Depends: libssl0.9.7 (= 0.9.7g-1ubuntu1) but 0.9.7g-1ubuntu1.1 is to be installed
[10:31] <Riddell> tshah: http://kubuntu.org/~jr/tmp/kubuntu.org-2005-11-1/
[10:31] <Riddell> tshah: http://kubuntu.org/~jr/tmp/kubuntu.org.tar.bz2
[10:31] <Riddell> rather
[10:32] <tshah> ok, I will probably get some of the changes done tonight
[10:32] <Riddell> tshah: do your changes, do a diff -u, e-mail me the URL to the diff and that'll be uer-col
[10:32] <Riddell> uber-cool
[10:32] <pef> Riddell: can you have a look on #ubuntu-meeting :)
[10:34] <Riddell> tshah: for extra love can you go to the wiki and changes to the kubuntu skin in UserPreferences, the tabs on the website should match them
[10:35] <Riddell> i.e. same fonts and add a wiki tab
[10:36] <tshah> Riddell: ok, I'll get working on it
[10:36] <Riddell> tshah: cool
[10:43] <Mez> pef: whats your paunchpad ID?
[10:44] <pef> Mez: loic
[10:47] <Mez>  Loic Pefferkorn (loic) was added as a member of Kubuntu Team.
[10:47] <Mez>  Loic Pefferkorn (loic) was added as a member of MOTU.
[10:47] <pef> Mez: thank you :)
[10:47] <Mez> np
[10:53] <Mez> http://www.sourceguru.net/kubuntu-logo-small.png
[10:59] <pef> have to go to bed :)
[10:59] <pef> bye !
[11:17] <tshah> Riddell: I just want to confirm something I found. So kubuntu is based on ubuntu which is based on the african word for "humanity towards others". And the "k" there is really to imply that this is for KDE, right?
[11:19] <Tm_T> ubuntu with kde
[11:24] <tshah> cool, thanks Tm_T
[11:26] <Tm_T> that's my "opinion" ;)
[11:27] <Tm_T> and IF I remember right, kubuntu has some meaning too as a word
[11:27] <Tm_T> "It means "towards humanity" in Bemba."
[11:27] <tshah> I am trying to confirm that
[11:28] <Tm_T> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php
[11:28] <tshah> Yeah, I am working on the faq, I think that part is wrong
[11:28] <Tm_T> oh?
[11:28] <tshah> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(ideology)
[11:30] <tshah> It also says it without a k here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu
[11:31] <Tm_T> yu
[11:31] <Tm_T> so maybe it is just "Ubuntu with K(de)
[11:31] <Tm_T> "
[11:32] <tshah> Yeah, that is my thinking, I just wanted to confirm it with one other developer and and Riddell (since he made the site)
[11:32] <Tm_T> heh, good idea ;)
[11:33] <Tm_T> and bts i's sir Riddell ;-P
[11:33] <Tm_T> s/bts/btw
[11:33] <allee> lol
[12:01] <Riddell> ubuntu means love of humanity in zulu/xhosa and other languages, kubuntu means towards humanity in bemba


[00:59] <guzzlefry> quick question, if I plug a second monitor in while xfce4 is running, is it likely to detect it?
[01:08] <guzzlefry> nevermind, it did :P
[01:11] <knome> yes, always better to ask random people on internet than *gasp* just try it :)
[10:34] <xubuntu77d> is there any need to install xubuntu-restricted-extras? sound and video already supported..
[10:42] <green1> ??
[10:43] <green1> me </help>:is there any need to install xubuntu-restricted-extras? sound and video already supported..
[10:43] <Rarrikins> You can see, using `apt show xubuntu-restricted-extras`, whether you want the packages it includes.
[10:45] <green1> if i install restricted extras, does that improve anything?
[10:45] <knome> green1, if everything is working, don't install
[10:46] <knome> green1, basically it adds support for some extra stuff, but again, if everything is working for you, you don't need it
[10:46] <knome> eg. it doesn't "improve" anything that is already working, it only enables things to work
[10:47] <green1> thank you all..:)
[15:07] <choki> any damn bugs fixed now?
[15:07] <choki> still hav issues with suspend freezes :/
[15:07] <knome> choki, just for reminder, whining doesn't help, patches do
[15:07] <choki> chrome freezes after suspend
[15:08] <choki> knome: i cant do anything :"(
[15:08] <choki> knome: 15.04 worked like a charm
[15:08] <knome> choki, but you can't expect that people fix bugs faster if you whine either
[15:08] <choki> so why do you destroy 16.04 lts then?
[15:08] <choki> knome: sorry but it is unusable :D
[15:08] <knome> oh you're right, it must be us purposefully putting the bugs there...
[15:09] <knome> ...nope.
[15:09] <choki> i just dont understand how could someone call it LTS
[15:09] <choki> now i know why people use mint that much
[15:09] <knome> again, whining doesn't help
[15:09] <choki> ok
[15:09] <choki> i stop :"(
[15:09] <Rarrikins> choki: All OSes have some situations they screw up on.
[15:10] <knome> if you have filed bug reports and followed up with any information you are requested (if any), you have done everything you can (except if you can fix the bugs itself)
[15:10] <choki> Rarrikins: i just hate how could someone destroy something that was working before like a charm <3
[15:10] <choki> i really wish to love xubuntu
[15:10] <choki> the issue is with lightdm
[15:10] <choki> so why not just up/downgrade?
[15:10] <knome> choki, please, by saying somebody "destroys" something, you are implying that somebody has purposefully added the bugs.
[15:10] <knome> because issues aren't black and white like that.
[15:11] <knome> while lightdm has a new version, so has many libraries it uses too
[15:11] <choki> oh
[15:11] <choki> deps deps deps depend on deps
[15:11] <choki> what a nightmare :/
[15:11] <knome> so while it may look like the issue is with lightdm, it might be something else
[15:11] <choki> ok i understand now
[15:11] <knome> it might be something unexpected in lightdm as well though
[15:12] <knome> seriously, if the developers knew what is causing a bug, they *would* fix them
[15:12] <knome> so far, they don't
[15:12] <choki> knome: do you have these issues?
[15:12] <knome> i don't suspend
[15:12] <choki> lol
[15:12] <knome> anyway, dinner time
[15:13] <knome> (that doesn't mean i don't suspend because i'd have those problems, i just have no use for that feature)
[15:13] <choki> knome: dont you use a laptop?
[15:27] <knome> choki, yes, but i don't suspend, as i said
[15:29] <StayaSinic> I use 1404 on thinkpad, and it works well. Last core. Fresh soft. No bugs. Support to 19 year. Don't upgrade. Don't make this mistake.
[15:29] <knome> StayaSinic, except that xubuntu 14.04 is only supported until april 2017...
[15:30] <StayaSinic> wow
[15:30] <knome> on the same breath, i use 16.04 on a thinkpad, and it works well.
[15:30] <StayaSinic> that's bad
[15:31] <StayaSinic> 1604 has some graphical artefacts like windows freezes
[15:31] <StayaSinic> maybe now its fixed
[15:34] <choki> StayaSinic: but i made this mistake :/
[15:34] <choki> StayaSinic: also i dont like to use 3 year old software till 19
[15:35] <choki> StayaSinic: yes freezes all the time :/
[15:43] <StayaSinic> how about cpu temp?
[15:43] <choki> not much
[15:43] <StayaSinic> about cpu frequency?
[15:43] <choki> low
[15:44] <choki> :D
[15:44] <StayaSinic> no, what number?
[15:44] <choki> i5
[15:45] <StayaSinic> I had a bug that the driver intel_pstate make not correct frequency
[15:45] <StayaSinic> 843   1329   1998 etc
[15:45] <choki> i gonna switch back to lm17.3 soon
[15:46] <choki> i cant even suspend on my desktop
[15:46] <choki> it says it has no permissions do do so
[15:46] <choki> like srsly
[15:46] <knome> choki, please stop whining, it *really* doesn't help
[15:46] <choki> knome: i dont
[15:46] <StayaSinic> pc has freez. but i add  intel_pstate=disable  on /etc/defaul/grub  and pc work well without this ..
[15:46] <knome> and if mint works for you, then use that
[15:46] <choki> knome: but you can't tell me your desktop never suspends
[15:47] <knome> choki, yes i can. i don't suspend.
[15:47] <choki> do you have 1.21 Gigawatts?
[15:47] <knome> people have different usecases
[15:47] <choki> i gtg soon
[15:47] <choki> outta this train
[15:47] <choki> in the real life!
[15:47] <choki> without any freezes
[15:48] <choki> knome: i gonna eat now see ya :3
[15:48] <ilzolende> so, i am currently using non-x ubuntu and i downloaded xubuntu desktop with apt-get, but idk how to use
[15:48] <ilzolende> it
[15:49] <choki> knome: i will be more silent then after i feel not that hungry anymore hahah
[15:49] <choki> ilzolende: you need to logout and on login screen there is a button to choose the desktop
[15:49] <ilzolende> how do i use xubuntu-desktop instead of unity?
[15:49] <ilzolende> oh okay
[15:49] <ilzolende> thanks
[15:49] <ilzolende> i will do that the next time i log out
[15:49] <choki> ilzolende: it is a round circle button
[15:49] <ilzolende> thanks
[15:49] <choki> ilzolende: but why you not just install xubuntu?
[15:50] <ilzolende> the download time was 10x the download time of ubuntu?
[15:50] <choki> O_o
[15:50] <choki> no
[15:50] <ilzolende> not in filesize
[15:50] <ilzolende> just in download time
[15:50] <choki> xubuntu is smaller usually!
[15:50] <ilzolende> also you didn't seem to have signatures?
[15:51] <ilzolende> or at least i couldn't find a verification procedure
[15:53] <ilzolende> and you guys didn't have https
[15:53] <ilzolende> (did you say anything while my computer was closed?)
[15:55] <StayaSinic> you can download xubuntu-core
[15:55] <ilzolende> what's the advantage of that?
[15:55] <StayaSinic> https://unit193.net/xubuntu/core/
[15:55] <ilzolende> oh, it's smaller
[15:55] <StayaSinic> 500mb
[15:55] <ilzolende> it still isn't https
[15:55] <ilzolende> and is it signed?
[15:56] <StayaSinic> MD5, SHA-256
[15:56] <ilzolende> nice
[15:56] <knome> the xubuntu-core ISOs aren't official, yet
[15:56] <StayaSinic> realy?
[15:56] <knome> and note that it isn't the same as the xubuntu desktop ISO
[15:57] <knome> StayaSinic, yes, really.
[15:57] <ilzolende> i mean, i currently already have ubuntu, i can make it more xubuntu-like but it seems like a pain to uninstall and reinstall
[15:57] <knome> ilzolende, you can install the xubuntu-desktop package if you want to run them side-by-side to test etc.
[15:57] <ilzolende> [nods]
[15:58] <StayaSinic> ok.
[15:58] <ilzolende> i mean my friends with opinions say (xubuntu|kubuntu) > ubuntu
[15:59] <Rarrikins> ilzolende: The directory of the ISO download will contain hashes and the signature for those hashes (e.g., http://mirror.us.leaseweb.net/ubuntu-cdimage/xubuntu/releases/16.04/release/). The signature can be verified with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto
[16:00] <ilzolende> [nods]
[16:01] <StayaSinic> what is a trouble? need xubuntu - install meta-package && uninstall unity
[16:01] <xangua> Go try uninstall unity...lol
[16:02] <StayaSinic> if not a perfectionist - sets all desktop
[16:02] <knome> uninstalling just unity will not leave you with the same desktop as a clean installation of xubuntu either
[16:02] <knome> that's why suggested that installing them side-by-side is a good way to *test* both systems
[16:04] <StayaSinic> idle talk
[16:06] <knome> sir, yes, sir.
[16:06] <knome> (seriously, i'm sure all suggestions are welcome for most people who *ask* for help)
[16:07] <ilzolende> i'll try rebooting later, and will hold onto the other suggestions as well
[16:07] <Rarrikins> One nice trick if you have a good Internet connection is to get the minimal install ISO. It lets you choose which flavor you want to install and downloads the latest packages so you're up-to-date.
[16:07] <ilzolende> i'm not short on storage space
[16:08] <Rarrikins> It also fits on a CD, unlike most flavors.
[16:08] <knome> though you will end up downloading most of the packages you download with the ISO anyway
[16:08] <knome> (just saying...)
[16:08] <Rarrikins> Yep :)
[16:09] <knob> I found this article super interesting: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-linux-shells/
[16:46] <StayaSinic> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[17:18] <choki> knome: u back?
[17:18] <choki> also who is knob ? :D
[17:19] <knome> we have #xubuntu-offtopic for general chatter.
[17:21] <choki> knome: but there is no other chit chat going on atm
[17:21] <knome> and?
[17:21] <choki> knome: i lik yu :3
[17:21] <knome> then take your chit chat to #xubuntu-offtopic
[17:21] <choki> we need to meet some time!
[18:28] <glitchd> does anyone know the location of the icons for the sidebar in thunar?
[18:29] <glitchd> my music folder is missing the icon and id like to fix that
[18:31] <so220> Hey everyone. Will xubuntu install on a 8gb USB stick?
[18:32] <glitchd> so220, yes.
[18:32] <so220> I would like my PC to rub off my usb
[18:33] <glitchd> so220, it will work.
[18:33] <so220> Thank yiu, g
[18:33] <glitchd> so220, use rufus or unetbootin
[18:33] <so220> Oh um I have my phone hosting an img. Never tried USB to usb
[18:34] <glitchd> well ive never booted a live usb session/system from the internal storage of my phone, so..
[18:35] <glitchd> it will definatly work from an 8gb usb stick, but i have no idea about the internal storage of a phone..
[18:35] <so220> Thanks
[18:38] <glitchd> where is the location of the icons used in the side panel of thunar?
[18:44] <glitchd> where do xfce themes store their icons?
[21:02] <petejones> having an annoying error/slowdown with mousepad. anyone around?
[21:02] <petejones> the text editor that is
[21:03] <petejones> some sort of dconf error
[22:36] <n-iCe> hi
[22:36] <n-iCe> how much RAM does xubuntu use at first boot
[22:44] <IvanDSM> Hey everyone, I'm using Trusty Tahr (14.04.2) and would like to know if the 4.2.0 lowlatency kernels on the trusty repositories are vunerable to the Off-path TCP Exploit.
[22:47] <IvanDSM> I tried building my own 4.7.2 kernel but the NVidia DKMS drivers throws an error
[22:47] <IvanDSM> driver
[23:54] <Zypre> First time trying out any Linux based system! Wish me luck


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[00:05] <Neo31> damn
[00:05] <Neo31> didn't c the messages
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