[18:58] <Y-DNA> this is interesting that this problem hasn't bee addressed yet. LiveUSB could usher new ways of using a LiveOS. Not even puppy linux, arguably the most advanced Live distro out there, DOES NOT have  straight way of installing to usb by passing the CD/DVD step.
[18:58] <yumbo> lol
[18:58] <karol_> Can anyone help me with choosing ram memory. I have dell gx280 computer with two pc2-3200U-333-10-c1 rams (256 mb each). Will this one: http://www.hoacomputer.com/files/Ram_Kingston512.jpg be OK?
[18:59] <Gentoo64> karol_, if its the same voltage and type it will
[18:59] <Y-DNA> yumbo: I will see after 2 hours (time to complete download)
[18:59] <yumbo> Y-DNA, takes 1 minute to download here :s
[19:00] <inttosh> yumbo, ppa-purge command not found
[19:00] <Y-DNA> karol_: hey sweety, I'll gladly help you any whichever way you are more comfortable with ;)
[19:00] <yumbo> inttosh, I did not tell you to do ppa-purge
[19:00] <Gentoo64> inttosh, i think you can just remove the ppa line from etc apt source.lst
[19:00] <yumbo> inttosh, I told you to open "Software sources" and remove the repository
[19:00] <inttosh> ok
[19:01] <mbeierl> inttosh: ppa-purge is a package from the universe repositories and needs to be installed if you want to use it
[19:01] <markdaws> limeage: thanks
[19:01] <inttosh> thanks
[19:01] <Y-DNA> karol_: however that's not a ubuntu question your best bet is #hardware
[19:02] <mbeierl> !ppa-purge
[19:02] <karol_> Y-DNA: OK, I'll ask there
[19:03] <flux242> hi, is there a simpler way to display subdirectories sizes in bash than that - 'for i in ./* do du -sh $i; done'
[19:03] <Jordan_U> Y-DNA: dr_willis: If you just want to dd the Ubuntu image to a drive and have it be bootable, it needs to be dd'd to the drive, not to a partition. So that would be "dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX" (note 'sdX' and *not* 'sdXX', so something like 'sdb').
[19:04] <llutz> flux242: du -h --max-depth=1 /
[19:04] <Jordan_U> Y-DNA: And that command will overwrite any data currently on the drive, so be carefull.
[19:05] <elricl> Anyone help with http://askubuntu.com/questions/92797/how-to-fix-the-bold-font-rendering-issue-with-gnome-terminal?
[19:05] <Y-DNA>  Jordan_U that's completely fine because this is a brand new usb flash.
[19:06]  * Y-DNA goes for some invigorating fermented grape juice.
[19:07] <JetJaguarXP> Anyone know where I can get a copy of ISO 12207?
[19:07] <Y-DNA> dafok is "ISO 12207"???
[19:08] <kruncher> Hello. My Ubuntu box has been randomly shutting down (hard-shutdown). What logs should I check for more information?
[19:08] <sskalnik> JetJaguarXP:  first link on Google
[19:08] <Gentoo64> JetJaguarXP: just google for a pdf or something
[19:08] <JetJaguarXP> without having to pay 250 bucks?
[19:09] <h00k> !piracy | JetJaguarXP
[19:09] <JetJaguarXP> Yikes!  Piracy?
[19:09] <Gentoo64> kruncher: maybe its the psu
[19:09] <sskalnik> JetJaguarXP:  First link on Google
[19:10] <kruncher> Gentoo64: It could certainly be hardware related, but it is a production server and I'd like to be able to scan the logs for more info before downing the server to investigate hardware.
[19:10] <JetJaguarXP> Well, thanks anyway...
[19:12] <kruncher> I'm just not sure where I would find any logs on the machine for more information. I'd assume they would be somewhere in /var.
[19:12] <maheanuu> Could anyone please help me in getting my cd/dvd rom to be recognized and mounted.  It failed on New Years Day and I have no idea why, I had used it on NY's eve with no problem now I can see it in Places Computer but cannot use it at all
[19:13] <maheanuu> It is showing in System disk utility as /dev/sr0 but cannot mount or get any info from anything tghere
[19:14] <sskalnik> kruncher:  /var/log should do it
[19:14] <sskalnik> syslog and kernel log are in there
[19:14] <akpk> gvfs permission denied root
[19:14] <akpk>  `./.gvfs': Permission denied
[19:14] <akpk> What to do ??
[19:15] <kruncher> sskalnik: thanks. I will begin looking there.
[19:15] <sskalnik> akpk:  sudo
[19:15] <akpk> No.its not working.
[19:15] <sskalnik> Sudo does not work?
[19:16] <akpk> root@AKPK:/home/arun# sudo find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
[19:16] <akpk> find: `./.gvfs': Permission denied
[19:16] <llutz> akpk: ~/.gvfs is a special dir, used  by GVFS
[19:16] <llutz> akpk: don#t mess with the permissions, user should be able to access
[19:16] <sskalnik> I don't think you are supposed to mess with that
[19:17] <llutz> akpk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVFS
[19:17] <akpk> chmod 666  ???
[19:18] <llutz> akpk: DON'T change permissions on ~/.gfvs
[19:18] <llutz> gvfs
[19:19] <sskalnik> akpk, what exactly are you trying to do with .gvfs, and why?
[19:19] <Ronnie> im trying to make an upstart script for service i need to runs, but somehow i cant get it to work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/793007/
 I am installing Kohana,PHP framework.
[19:20] <akpk> simplt following the instructions.
[19:20] <sskalnik> akpk:  I would question those instructions
[19:21] <akpk> :-P
[19:21] <llutz> akpk: why does a php-framework need to change/access ~/.gvfs?
[19:21] <akpk> sskalnik : If you are using a unix-like system, the installation’s subdirs may have lost their permissions during zip extraction. Chmod them all to 755 by running find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; from the root of your Kohana installation.
[19:22] <akpk> instruction from the documentation,
[19:22] <akpk> when i typed this i got that error message
[19:22] <GeForce88>  so if i want to say make a desktop icon for an attached device, wheree is the setting? i used to have it pop right up, but now with unity it's become a rather difficult task
[19:22] <sskalnik> akpk:  what directory are you in when you run that command?
[19:22] <llutz> akpk: you made your $HOME the installation-dir for that framework?
[19:23] <sskalnik> It looks like you need to chmod the installation directory, but you are trying to chmod something entirely different..
[19:23] <akpk> /opt/lampp/htdcos
[19:24] <llutz> akpk: "running find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; from the root of your Kohana installation"  does NOT mean to run it from your home-dir
[19:24] <oCean> akpk: apparently there's a ppa for stable releases also: https://launchpad.net/~kohana/+archive/stable
 : Thank you.
[19:24] <coleix> guys how do i take ownership of a folder that has root rights only, i installed a program and by mistake used sudo now i can't run it.
[19:24] <llutz> akpk: find /opt/lampp/htdcos -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
[19:24] <akpk> It worked.
 : <llutz> : Thank you
[19:25] <priXon> hello
[19:25] <Gentoo64> coleix: sudo chown -R username /folder
[19:25] <jftsang> Hello, I'm on Ubuntu 11.10 on a Samsung NC10. Not only am I suffering from the screen brightness flicker problem, but I seem also to be forced to either max or min brightness
[19:25] <sskalnik> akpk:  No prob
[19:25] <jftsang> If I try to change the brightness to something in the middle, the brightness just goes straight up to the top.
[19:26] <priXon> I read about transforming ubuntu to xubuntu or lubuntu, and I was wondering if ubuntu + 'xubuntu-desktop' will perform exactly as xubuntu's installation on a pc/latop?
[19:26] <Gentoo64> priXon: it should do
[19:26] <akpk> sudo chmod 666 /opt/lampp/htdocs/kohana/application/logs
[19:27] <akpk> is not working ??
[19:27] <_jason> akpk: why are you using lampp?
[19:27] <coleix> thanks Gentoo64
[19:27] <llutz> !permissions| akpk:
[19:27] <akpk> I am using xampp
[19:27] <_jason> akpk: ok, why are you using xampp?
[19:27] <llutz> akpk: you want to set executable-bit on dirs
[19:27] <bismay> hiiii
[19:28] <priXon> and can I install on this xubuntu everything there is to install on ubuntu and it will work?
[19:28] <Gentoo64> priXon: yes
[19:28] <akpk> chmod 666,but dat folder is still not writable.
[19:28] <llutz> akpk: you want to set executable-bit on dirs
[19:28] <_jason> akpk: my advice is to not use xampp; use apache from ubuntu's repositories
[19:28] <akpk> lluts : hm,Okay.
[19:29] <bluezone> akpk: If you're not worried about security you can also try chmod +777 if i'm not mistaken, also you may want to right click on it properties/permissions allow execution
[19:29] <SVNDR> Gentoo64: what about visa versa of what priXon said..?
,Ya 777 is working.
[19:30] <Gentoo64> SVNDR: you can install any apps, on any ubuntu
[19:30] <llutz> 777 is a bad idea in most cases
[19:30] <BangBusRUs> Ok so I checked with GParted
[19:30] <priXon> Gentoo64, can you assume how faster will a netbook a transformed xubuntu /lubuntu run compared to unity ubuntu?
[19:30] <akpk> (But this documentation want me to try 666)
[19:30] <BangBusRUs> It says its unallocated
[19:30] <SVNDR> Gentoo64: so the name difference dont mean much, app wise?
[19:30] <Gentoo64> priXon: much snappier
[19:30] <Gentoo64> priXon: itll use less ram as well
[19:30] <bluezone> llutz, sure but at least it works, it isn't really important if security isn't an issue imo
[19:30] <BangBusRUs> Umm who was helping me before?
[19:31] <AmberJ> Hello
[19:31] <Gentoo64> SVNDR: no its just the desktop default environment. if you put lxde on, most people would stick to lighter apps rather than some gnome app pulling in most of gnome deps
[19:31] <llutz> bluezone: 777 is a bad idea in most cases and "it works" is the most stupid reason to use it
[19:31] <bluezone> llutz, please explain why it is a bad idea
[19:31] <BangBusRUs> Who was helping me before please reply
[19:32] <llutz> bluezone: you don't want world-writable directories
[19:32] <AmberJ> Youtube, metacafe etc work very well in CHROME on my PC...except one site streaming videos in flash player
[19:32] <priXon> the thing is, that with ubuntu on a netbook, you sometime have to wait a second or two until firefox/chromium opens. and for libreoffice, maybe some 5-10-15 seconds
[19:32] <AmberJ> Anyone having chrome installed?
[19:32] <BangBusRUs> I do
[19:32] <llutz> bluezone: you don't want a webserver have write-access to all files
[19:32] <SVNDR> Gentoo64: alright makes sence.. and whats this talk about xubuntu running faster on netbooks? ubuntus burning my CPU practically, do you recon xubuntu might help?
[19:32] <BangBusRUs> amberj
[19:32] <AmberJ> I just need someone to check if they can get flash player to load for one site...
[19:32] <bluezone> llutz, that's exactly what i mean, if security isn't an issue for him then that is irrelevant
[19:32] <BangBusRUs> what one
[19:32] <llutz> bluezone: even on home-computers, if you do it, do it right
[19:32] <Morpheme> bluezone, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_privilege
[19:33] <BangBusRUs> What site Amberj
[19:33] <llutz> bluezone: still stupid reason. security always matters
[19:33] <priXon> I don't understand how come there is a difference in loading the softwares if the core is the same. Gentoo64, can you explain that?
[19:33] <Gentoo64> SVNDR: priXon: try it. xubuntu probably wont help much in terms of cpu or app load times but it might on a slower comp
[19:33] <AmberJ> BangBusRUs, http://tinyurl.com/6pr3m8t
[19:33] <AmberJ> BangBusRUs, Chrome on ubuntu...
[19:33] <bluezone> llutz, not to me :)
[19:33] <Gentoo64> priXon: because gnome is larger, and takes mroe ram and cpu
[19:33] <BangBusRUs> lmao why is it tinyurl
[19:33] <xangua> priXon: because those apps you mentioned are heavier on resource usage
[19:34] <AmberJ> BangBusRUs, Long URL....
[19:34] <llutz> bluezone: ok, but don't recommend it to other users here, pls
[19:34] <SVNDR> Gentoo64: alright, nothing loads slow so much, its just the over heating CPU, been reading it might be the kernel
[19:34] <bluezone> fine :(
[19:34] <BangBusRUs> its okay just post the site
[19:34] <AmberJ> BangBusRUs, http://classx.stanford.edu/ClassX/system/users/web/pg/view_presentation.php?subject=CS229_FALL_2011_2012&session=Lecture%2002&runtime=Flash&devClass=1
[19:35] <priXon> so you would advice using xubuntu/lubuntu only if I see that I'm usually using almost all of my RAM? and if not, then one can use ubuntu-unity?
[19:35] <GeForce88> does unity in 11.10 provide for making desktop icons, or is that somethign we're gonna have to wait for 12.04 for ?
[19:35] <imi> hi
[19:35] <BangBusRUs> nope it does not load up
[19:35] <Gentoo64> priXon, the lighter ones just are snappier, less to go wrong, less ram and cpu, less disk space
[19:36] <maheanuu> Ubuntu 10.10 not recognizing my CD Rom??????
[19:36] <imi> I switched off auto save settings in mc, however when I quit it saves other_dir in panels.ini
[19:36] <imi> how can I switch off this behaviour?
[19:36] <imark> GeForce88: i think you have to make your own theres no tool for it
[19:36] <AmberJ> Thanks for confirming, BangBusRUs. I can now report it to site admins :)
  <_jason> <bluezone> <ubottu>  <sskalnik> Thank you very much !!
[19:36] <AmberJ> BangBusRUs, Do you get "missing plugin"?
[19:37] <GeForce88> imark : gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new ~/Desktop
[19:37] <priXon> can you define what you mean by "snappier"? english isn't my native language so I don't get all the connotation right
[19:37] <akpk> Everything installed .
[19:37] <BangBusRUs> Its cool amberj, oh btw wanna go for a ride?
[19:37] <GeForce88> so yea there is a tool, but, there should be drag and drop support...?
[19:37] <akpk> Its Working smoothly.
[19:37] <xangua> AmberJ: BangBusRUsworks fine to me on firefox
[19:37] <Gentoo64> priXon, opening windows / switching etc is all faster
[19:37] <maheanuu> I have been waiting and asking and waiting since New Years and so far no one has even offered any idea...  Am I the only person in Ubuntu to have had this problem
[19:37] <Gentoo64> priXon, theres less delays etc
[19:37] <GeForce88> maheanuu, sounds like your cd/dvd rom is bad or disconnected
[19:38] <Gentoo64> GeForce88, afaik gnome 3 dont really support using the desktop for icons
[19:38] <priXon> Gentoo64, you said loading time will stay the same. what is opening windows if not loading times of softwares?
[19:38] <AmberJ> xangua, BangBusRUs It works fine for me in firefox/chromium. Flash videos from youtube, metacafe etc also work fine in Chrome....It's just chrome+classX combo which doesnot works..
[19:38] <Morpheme> bluezone, if you don't matter about security give me a free ssh access to your pc
[19:38] <bluezone> Morpheme, that's different
[19:38] <Gentoo64> priXon, loading times might be faster, depends on the comp
[19:38] <AmberJ> BangBusRUs, ride on IRC? heh...Do you mean something like /join ride? ;)
[19:38] <GeForce88> gentoo64, imho, would it not benefit the disrto to be more 'user friendly' ? some of us prefer desktop icons.
[19:39] <Morpheme> bluezone, different? why?
[19:39] <bluezone> Morpheme, i was talking in context with file permissions
[19:39] <CaptainFixer> maheanuu have you tried a different cd drive and or cable?
[19:39] <bluezone> Morpheme, that's why ^.^
[19:39] <imark> GeForce88: i live and learn
[19:39] <tesuji> hello
[19:39] <maheanuu> GeForce88, it has worke all along and I see it in Places Computer and also in System administration Disk utility but it cannot be mounted  or ejected
[19:39] <BangBusRUs> No I mean ride on the BangBus?
[19:39] <bluezone> Morpheme, besides i wouldn't even give you ssh i would give you ftp rofl
[19:39] <GeForce88> imark : i'm just used to icons. drag and drop is a nice addition
[19:40] <Gentoo64> GeForce88: sorry keyboard froze
[19:40] <priXon> Gentoo64, by the way, thanks for your answers
[19:40] <maheanuu> It isn't the CDROM, I installed another one out of another notebook and it is the same
[19:40] <GeForce88> maheanuu,  then it is bad. or, you have something jamming the mechanics of hte drive
[19:40] <rapstero> is it possible to install and run oident or similar software without root?
[19:40] <Gentoo64> GeForce88: gnome2 had desktop icons, all the other des still have them
[19:40] <Morpheme> bluezone, lol, i don't need it, thanks anyway :D
[19:41] <GeForce88> Gentoo64, do you know of plans to fix this in 12.04 ?
[19:41] <maheanuu> No, I get like a single speed run when I try to burn then if dies  and the drive works fine in another notebook
[19:41] <Gentoo64> GeForce88: no
[19:41] <maheanuu> the other notebook has windoze on it not Ubuntu
[19:41] <GeForce88> Gentoo64,  defeats the purpose of the desktop, don't it ?
[19:41] <Gentoo64> GeForce88: i dont like it so i dont use it
[19:41] <tesuji> hello! where can I ask newbie-like questions?
[19:41] <Gentoo64> lol
[19:41] <Gentoo64> tesuji: here
[19:41] <bluezone> tesuji, here
[19:41] <GeForce88> Gentoo64, fair enough. thx.
[19:42] <Gentoo64> GeForce88: try the more plain desktops if you really want it easy
[19:42] <chris_is_me> maheanuu: have you tryed booting from a cd to see if it works
[19:42] <priXon> if you're talking about drag and drop, can anyone predict if/when one will be able to drag and drop while using alt+tab?
[19:43] <maheanuu> chris_is  No, I will do that now and brb
[19:43] <imi> priXon: you can drag it to the tray, and when the window shows up continue to drag into it
[19:43] <chris_is_me> maheanuu: good luck
[19:44] <tesuji> I just installed Zorin OS 5.2 core, and install all updates, but in Chrome java is not working.
[19:44] <GeForce88> Gentoo64, there's always: gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new ~/Desktop :: ;)
[19:44] <xangua> tesuji: ask on ther channel/forum
[19:44] <priXon> yeah, but sometime it's not as efficient as doing it with alt+tab
[19:44] <Gentoo64> tesuji: dno what that is, but its not supported
[19:44] <_jason> tesuji: this is #ubuntu
[19:45] <Gentoo64> GeForce88: its possible to get desktop icons, but its not exactly simple, or default
[19:45] <tesuji> ok sorry
[19:45] <samael_> hyia guy
[19:46] <Dukes> hi , i try to install ubuntu server on my machine from a usb sticker and i can't continue instalation because the cdrom is missing. There is any chance to bypass cdrom check ?
[19:46] <SVNDR> is GEDIT the eqivelant to notepad from windows??
[19:47] <tidux> SVNDR: it's much better than notepad
[19:47] <GeForce88> pico ftw
[19:47] <Gentoo64> SVNDR: leafpad is mroe like notepad
[19:47] <lalagirl> SVNDR similar
[19:47] <Gentoo64> id say gedit is more like "wordpad"
[19:47] <SVNDR> Gentoo64: im gonna try that then
[19:47] <Gentoo64> lol
[19:47] <priXon> so you don't think ubuntu/linux will ever add the function of drag/drop while alt+tabbing?
[19:47] <SVNDR> Gentoo64: yea thats what i was just thinking lol
[19:48] <samael_> ?
[19:48] <Gentoo64> SVNDR: but as you already have gedit, why not just use it?
[19:48] <GeForce88> priXon,  google says this will be fixed with 12.04
[19:48] <Gentoo64> you can minimize the view in the options
[19:48] <_jason> priXon: it will get added when someone writes it (like everything else) :)
[19:49] <SVNDR> Gentoo64: dont ask me why, but even on windows i never liked wordpad (for simple things like a quick copy/paste then delete, i always used notepad.. haha just preference i guess
[19:49] <SVNDR> leafpad has a nicer icon too
[19:49] <warfaren> ofcourse. notepad loads up way faster than wordpad and has a much cleaner interface
[19:49] <jandro> Since my remote server only has SSH port open, I am using the parameter -L 31031:localhost:80 so that I can access apache on the remote end. My problem is that when installing wordpress the "Host address" was set to "localhost:31031" and now I can connect to apache's welcome page, but not to Wordpress when I type "http://localhost:31031/wordpress" since apparently it is listening on 31031, but that's just Worpress, apache's still listening on port 80. I tri
[19:49] <jandro> setting apache to listen to 31031 although it didn't work. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong/should do to get back to wordpress and change it? Hope I made some sense there... cheers
[19:50] <tidux> hey guys, I'm a former Ubuntu user (8.04 was my first Linux) thinking about coming back after distro-hopping and a year or so of Debian Testing
[19:50] <Gentoo64> SVNDR: yeah leafpad is very nice for a quick editor
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> tidux  welcome back then
[19:50] <tidux> is there anything I should watch out for as different from Debian?
[19:50] <tidux> I know Unity's different
[19:50] <tidux> but does it still use sysvinit and /bin/dash?
[19:50] <Gentoo64> tidux: afaik its basivally the same
[19:50] <tidux> yeah, update-alternatives, APT, dpkg, etc. are all there
[19:51] <Gentoo64> tidux: i suppsoe youll learn the little changes as you go
[19:51] <_jason> tidux: ubuntu uses upstart (but sysvinit scripts still get called) and ubuntu uses dash as sh by default
[19:51] <tidux> alright, cool
[19:51] <tidux> thanks _jason
[19:52] <llutz> _jason: debian uses dash aswell since a while
[19:52] <tidux> yeah
[19:52] <tidux> dash = Debianized Almquist SHell
[19:52] <tidux> it really is much faster than bash in sh-mode for stuff like init scripts
[19:53] <tidux> and it can still do functions, etcl
[19:53] <tidux> *etc.
[19:53] <tesuji> ok, sorry again, but does anyone know any Zorin OS channel? Thanks!
[19:53] <tidux> tesuji: tried #zorinos ?
[19:53] <_jason> tidux: go to zorin os website, help, irc
[19:53] <Dukes> does anybody know why ubuntu requires a cdrom since is installed from a bootable usb sticker ?
[19:53] <llutz> !alis | tesuji
[19:53] <Gentoo64> Dukes: it shouldnt..
[19:54] <tidux> alright, off I go
[19:54] <groovehunter> hi pls how to start gnome-disk-utility on cli?
[19:54] <tesuji> thanks!!
[19:54] <groovehunter> there is no bin
[19:54] <Gentoo64> groovehunter: palimpsest
[19:54] <xangua> Dukes: is Ubuntu Cd marked as repository on Software Sources¿
[19:54] <Gentoo64> i think
[19:54] <Dukes> Gentoo64 : it does ... my dvdrom is dead and i want to install ubuntu via usb sticker
[19:54] <groovehunter> thx Gentoo64
[19:54] <Gentoo64> groovehunter: i probably typoed that
[19:54] <groovehunter> btw what's the name from?
[19:55] <groovehunter> correct typed :)
[19:55] <Gentoo64> no idea what the command name means :s
[19:56] <angel> olaa
[19:56] <Gentoo64> list?
[20:00] <Glitchd> can anyone help me figure out if my server is reachable from an outside network?
[20:01] <Dukes> is there any chance to install ubuntu with wibi and to delete windows instalation to remain with ubuntu only ?
[20:01] <xangua> Dukes: no
[20:01] <Glitchd> Dukes, no, because your installing ubuntu as a program almost inside windows
[20:02] <Glitchd> Dukes, why not just install it to the computer then delete the partition that windows is located on?
[20:02] <Glitchd> Dukes, or delete the windows parition when installing ubuntu?
[20:03] <priXon> one more question. I read in wikipedia that xubuntu had problems and it didn't achieve its goals regarding lower RAM use. Is it still problematic? should one install lubuntu instead of xubuntu? they also write that a test carried by distrowatch found that lubuntu uses half the RAM ubuntu/xubuntu uses. so if xubuntu uses as much RAM as ubuntu uses, why use it?
[20:03] <Dukes> Glitchd: my dvdrom is dead .. i cant use it anymore
[20:04] <sskalnik> priXon:  Yeah, go with Lubuntu if you are tight on resources
[20:04] <Dukes> i have made a usb sticker bootable but when i install is asking me for cdrom
[20:04] <Glitchd> Dukes, so download the usb installer application and a ubuntu iso and use the application to put ubuntu onto a usb then install from that.
[20:04] <sskalnik> priXon:  I say this though I use Xubuntu for largely aesthetic reasons
[20:05] <priXon> in fact, I want to help a friend that has a notebook and wants something faster then his windows7. I installed ubuntu on his notebook, but it is slower than windows7
[20:05] <SVNDR> I was doing updates just now (about 300 of then) and my charger unplugged itself, the window prompted me saying its safer to do it with a charger plugged in.. i plugged it back in and now its just stuck on a black, opaque screen..
[20:05] <SVNDR> would it be same to restart?
[20:06] <priXon> yeah, the xubuntu desktop looks nicer. that's why I hoped xubuntu will fit him
[20:06] <sskalnik> priXon:  I would go with Lubuntu if he is seeing performance issues.
[20:06] <maheanuu> chris_is_me,  I cannot boot from a Ubuntu disk, but I went into /dev and this is what I see, not that I can make any sense of it, but I do see the cdrom and also /sr0 http://paste.ubuntu.com/793064/
[20:07] <priXon> is unity that heavy that it slowers the notebook more than windows7?!
[20:07] <aashez> I have data on a remote system whose backup I would like to take using dd piped to bzip2. But the remote system is old with low prcessing power for compression (and probably dd too). Is it possible to run the command from my end and use my system processing power for the task?
[20:07] <maheanuu> My major problem other than being older than dirt is I am more dangerous than a gallon of Nitro
[20:07] <Dukes> Glitchd: that is the way i used to make the bootable sticker
[20:07] <bluezone> priXon, probably... i don't like it, you can switch back to gnome if you like :)
[20:07] <Dukes> i followed the tutorial from ubuntu website
[20:07] <Glitchd> Dukes, bootable sticker?
[20:08] <Dukes> yes
[20:08] <sskalnik> priXon:  I imagine something else is going on; ubuntu is typically at least as snappy, if not faster, than Win7 with Aero and all that.
[20:08] <Glitchd> what do u mean by that?
[20:08] <Dukes> i made it with Universal USB installer
[20:08] <sskalnik> Glitchd:  he means a USB stick
[20:08] <Glitchd> Dukes, why do u want to delete windows tho?
[20:08] <engammalsko> How do I remove grub (I'm on the live CD).
[20:08] <chicoalicante2> #frikiinternet
[20:08] <Glitchd> sskalnik, gotcha..thx
[20:08] <Dukes> i got sick of windows :)
[20:08] <jxshxx> (make mine a) Happy New Year!  Lucid won't boot.  Help! http://pastebin.com/J3XHemJe
[20:08] <engammalsko> I have removed Linux without removing grub.
[20:09] <Glitchd> engammalsko, one way would be to boot into the recovery console of windows
[20:09] <priXon> what else could cause ubuntu to be slower than windows7? it's relatively a brand new notebook (bought half a year ago)
[20:09] <engammalsko> Glitchd: How do I do that?
[20:09] <engammalsko> Glitchd: I booted the install CD but found no recovery mode.
[20:09] <sskalnik> priXon:  What sorts of things are slower?
[20:09] <Glitchd> engammalsko, hold on ill find u a link
[20:10] <Glitchd> engammalsko, what version of windows?
[20:10] <engammalsko> Btw Windows 7
[20:10] <Glitchd> kk
[20:10] <engammalsko> Glitchd: 7
[20:10] <priXon> sometimes the dash gets stuck. loading softwares is a bit slow
[20:10] <Glitchd> engammalsko, do u have the windows 7 cd?
[20:10] <Glitchd> /dvd
[20:11] <engammalsko> Glitchd: yeah.
[20:11] <Glitchd> ok
[20:11] <Glitchd> http://windows7forums.com/windows-7-support/34709-how-remove-grub-loader-get-windows-7-boot-loader-back-uninstalling-linux.html
[20:12] <subone> How do I add an icon to an application I've pinned to the Unity siebar?
[20:13] <acidfrost> priXon, try turning off eye candy
[20:15] <reCAPTCHA> Hi all... can ubuntu be dual-booted with OSX on a MacBook?
[20:15] <_jason> reCAPTCHA: yes
[20:15] <_jason> !mac | reCAPTCHA
[20:15] <Glitchd> reCAPTCHA, yup
[20:15] <priXon> how can I turn off eye candy on 11.10?
[20:15] <BussDriver> yes, but it's an excruciating experience.
[20:15] <_jason> BussDriver: how so?
[20:15] <Glitchd> priXon, google....lol
[20:15] <Glitchd> priXon, jk
[20:15] <maheanuu> Is there anyway to do a clean up and get rid of all the crap odds and ends that apparently get left behind after the upgrades..  I boot and have 6 Skypes popping up and now my cdrom is not working and i would like very much to have this puter back to 10.04 time where it ran like a swiss watch instead of running like windoze 3.5
[20:16] <Glitchd> ^like
[20:16] <BussDriver> _jason: In my experience with 11.04 on a latest generation macbook pro, very little worked
[20:16] <BussDriver> and battery life was about 1/8th what it was in OSX or windows 7
[20:16] <BussDriver> the touchpad was completely unusable because you couldn't right click
[20:16] <maheanuu> On my Toshiba Satellite 64 bit it ran like a gazelle
[20:17] <Dynamit> I have no problem with Ubuntu on my laptop
[20:17] <BussDriver> it's a mac?
[20:17] <Dynamit> no PC
[20:17] <BussDriver> right, i love ubuntu 11.10 on my dell
[20:17] <BussDriver> but on that mac, it was abysmall.
[20:18] <BussDriver> er, abysmal
[20:18] <_jason> BussDriver: well I can say I have no problem with ubuntu on my macbook but it's 4,1
[20:18] <BussDriver> this was a 6,1 I believe
[20:18] <maheanuu> Dynamit, at present even my tab key will not complete the names
[20:18] <Raliegh> So... Ubuntu is slow on updating their packages. Apache2 needs upgrading... What do I do?
[20:18] <_jason> !sru | Raliegh
[20:19] <Raliegh> Okay that totally doesn't help.
[20:19] <Raliegh> In the slightest.
[20:19] <Dynamit> i have a small problem with my laptop it my hdmi port don't work to 100% nvidia detect the tv and the name and say it send the signal but the tv don't detect a input signal
[20:19] <_jason> Raliegh: do you understand how/why/when updates happen on a stable release in ubuntu?
[20:20] <Dynamit> but on one of the older Ubuntu i have in this computer the hdmi port have work so it's driver problem to 99%
[20:20] <Raliegh> I don't really care, no offense. The thing is Apache2 is outdated (by .4, apparently a slowloris fix was introduced) and I need to install it.
[20:20] <Matrixiumn> bye
[20:21] <_jason> Raliegh: of course you care.  It's what you are asking about.
[20:21] <raven> 11.10 why lmms depends on wine1.2 ??
[20:21] <Raliegh> No, I'm asking how to properly upgrade it, not why it isn't updated in the main repository.
[20:21] <maheanuu> Is it possible to reinstall 10.10 over the top of the 10.10 I now have installed?
[20:21] <idefix> !FS
[20:22] <_jason> Raliegh: maybe it is patched for your issue.
[20:22] <priXon> btw, maybe someone here can help me with my problem.
[20:22] <priXon> few months ago the visual effects stopped working for me. I read on the internet that it's related to an update on xorg or something like that, and since then nothing has changed. although other people wrote that the new xorg packages fixed their problems. I tried tweaking my things related to the ati video card but nothing happend. and also if I log out I get a black screen and can't choose to log in, although if i press "backspace" I h
[20:22] <priXon> ear some sounds - meaning I'm inside the box where I usually type the password when doing a log in. what might be the cause of that, and how can I fix it?
[20:22] <_jason> Raliegh: the link you don't want to read explains that ubuntu will patch security issues
[20:22] <dwatkins_> if the version in the repository isn't new enough, you might be able to install the testing version, Raliegh
[20:22] <haylo> you usually get an option to install over the older copy
[20:22] <Raliegh> _jason, well they haven't. So, what I need to figure out is how to update, not why Ubuntu hasn't bothered to do it.
[20:23] <_jason> Raliegh: they have.
[20:23] <maheanuu> haylo, was that meant for me?
[20:23] <tobier> Raliegh: you can build apache yourself if there are no binaries available that works for you..
[20:23] <Raliegh> _Jason, repository is 2.2.17, current version (with fix) is 2.2.21
[20:23] <_jason> Raliegh: *sigh*
[20:24] <tobier> Raliegh: fetch the source and build it yourself then
[20:24] <Raliegh> tobier, I really don't want to have to deal with compiling a source and whatnot. I kind of want this to be as easy as possible, and keep my current config.
[20:24] <who_me> Raliegh, sometimes fixes get backported. If you have a test case that reveals that is not the case you could request a backport of the fix or of the version you need. Usually sys-admins are "control freaks" and compile and roll out their own stuff :)
[20:24] <_jason> Raliegh: again, ubuntu will cherry pick security patches and incorporate them into the packages.  Here is your specific bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/392759
[20:24] <tobier> Raliegh: deal with that? ./configure, make, make install
[20:25] <Chotaz`> !n NCIS
[20:25] <g00gle> Ubuntu Server help is available here correct? - I would like to install ZendTo (http://zend.to) and I have the x64 version of Ubuntu, however - in order for php to handle downloads / uploads of 2GB+ I need to complie php for x64... is this something you guys can help me with? is there such a package in the ubuntu repositories for x64 PHP...?
[20:26] <owenll> maheanuu: yes it is possible - I have done it - it will be an option when you install
[20:27] <trism> raven: one of the plugins for lmms is linked to libwine, there is a bug about downgrading it to recommends, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=622080
[20:27] <maheanuu> owenll, then all I need to do is drop 10.10 on a USB key and boot from it and it will walk me thru without trashing all my data and personal stuff?
[20:28] <maheanuu> owenll, and that should rid me of all the extra Skypes and bring back my CDRom to operating condition once again?
[20:29] <owenll> maheanuu: Yes. This is the question I asked on the ub forums, and the answers I got: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1591350
[20:31] <GaRRu> Anyone is Specialized with Facebook accounts, can Please do me a Private Message? Thank you, if you can.
[20:31] <xangua> !anyone | GaRRu
[20:31] <owenll> maheanuu: check out the advice there on backing up
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> !gq > MonkeyDust
[20:33] <tyler_d> how do you grep for a unicode ^D
[20:34] <haylo> maheanuu yes it was. there is alsmost always an option in the ubuntu installer to reinstall over the existing installation and delete the original installation. this is what i personally usually choose
[20:35] <haylo> it is a very user friendly install option
[20:37] <_jason> Raliegh: do you understand what to check for now?
[20:39] <agarwood> hello ! do you know what i have to write in .conkyrc for use conky..?
[20:41] <Bardzolubiekoty> anything :?
[20:41] <tobier> agarwood: man conky
[20:41] <Bardzolubiekoty> if not file specified, default should run just fine
[20:43] <farrukhjon> hi all!
[20:43] <farrukhjon> where trash button in gnome-shell ?
[20:46] <owenll> agarwood: there are many thingsyou could write in .conkyrc - or you could copy what someone else has written - thousands of customized conkyrc files for you to try here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865
[20:46] <dr_willis> button to clean the trash? or get to the trash dir?
[20:46] <jbwiv> anyone know if 11.10 is yet able to work across 3+ monitors (with xinerama or something else)? when it first released, it wasn't , but I've heard work has been done on multi-monitor support
[20:47] <AnonMasochist> how do I fix the ever so famous FREEZING problem in Ubuntu 10.04!?!, I have looked on ALL forums, and still can't find a freakin' solution, other than to switch to a less user friendly Linux OS.
[20:47] <dr_willis> AnonMasochist:  you could be giving more details... not just repeating rather vague statements.
[20:48] <xangua> AnonMasochist: no here we go again with the 'famous' freezing poblem¿
[20:48] <xangua> so here we go
[20:49] <dr_willis> given i can think of a dozen + ways 'freezing' can be interperted...
[20:49] <AnonMasochist> when I use Firefox, after a while the whole system freezes, requiring a hard reset, only to happen again later, same goes for whenever I play games that require a lot of graphics, like Warsow, this problem happens with loads of other programs too, like Mixxx. this problem has been reported by so many Ubuntu users, this problem only started to occur with Ubuntu 10.04 onwards, all I have found is a planned fix 'revise kernel', I
[20:49] <AnonMasochist> need a fix now, I can't do anythin', it's driving me insane.
[20:50] <_jason> AnonMasochist: video driver would be my first guess.  What card?
[20:50] <owenll> AnonMasochist: if you are referring to this bug - had it myself in 10.04 - there are instructions here on disabling irqbalance that worked for me https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/528720
[20:50] <_jason> AnonMasochist: actually, I would run a memtest first
[20:51] <dwatkins_> yes, another vote for memtest, the timing might be coincidental
[20:51] <fidel> AnonMasochist: is it a real freeze or is the "gui" just not rwacting anymore?
[20:51] <fidel> as in: can you ssh in at that point?
[20:52] <AnonMasochist> This problem is all over the forums, almost EVERY Ubuntu 10.04 user is experiancing this problem, this is no driver problem.well, when I use Firefox, after a while the whole system freezes, requiring a hard reset, only to happen again later, same goes for whenever I play games that require a lot of graphics, like Warsow, this problem happens with loads of other programs too, like Mixxx. this problem has been reported by so many Ubun
[20:52] <AnonMasochist> tu users, this problem only started to occur with Ubuntu 10.04 onwards, all I have found is a planned fix 'revise kernel', I
[20:52] <AnonMasochist> need a fix now, I can't do anythin', it's driving me insane.
[20:52] <AnonMasochist> woah!
[20:52] <AnonMasochist> wrong paste
[20:52] <fidel> AnonMasochist: dont repeat
[20:52] <fidel> ;)
[20:52] <AnonMasochist> I din't repeat
[20:53] <AnonMasochist> the chat client screwed up
[20:53] <jbwiv> anyone know if 11.10 is yet able to work across 3+ monitors (with xinerama or something else)? when it first released, it wasn't , but I've heard work has been done on multi-monitor support
[20:53] <dr_willis> not like we can come up with a magtical fix when a fix is allready planned... you could just try a newer kenrel/ppa i guess..
[20:53] <_jason> AnonMasochist: what's the bug report?
[20:53] <SVNDR> How do i go about finding mounted devices (such as iPhones/iPods) in the HomeFolder part?
[20:53] <owenll> AnonMasochist: both keyboard and mouse freezing using firefox and other software - having to hard reboot drove me insane for months - see bug and solution posted above
[20:53] <BussDriver> jbwiv: I'm using three monitors at the moment - two external and my built-in laptop display
[20:53] <AnonMasochist> wait!
[20:54] <BussDriver> jbwiv: on 11.10
[20:54] <AnonMasochist> the client screwed up!
[20:54] <AnonMasochist> stop typing for a few secs!
[20:54] <dr_willis> SVNDR:  mounted filesystems normally are in /media/
[20:54] <AnonMasochist> I need to locate a paste
[20:54] <jbwiv> BussDriver, are you using xinerama?
[20:54] <imajes> hey, anyone here work on upstart?
[20:54] <AnonMasochist> I accidentialye type, within a paste
[20:54] <cgfree> Can someone tell me how i can edit my XF86Config/X.Org configuration file ?
[20:54] <BussDriver> jbwiv: To be honest I have no idea. I just plugged them in and they worked.  I'm using the open source radeon driver.
[20:54] <SVNDR> dr_willis thanks Doc.
[20:55] <dr_willis> cgfree:  its a text file.  sudo nano /path/to/file    would be the normal way to edit it.
[20:55] <jbwiv> BussDriver, interesting...ok. I'm using an nvidia card :-/
[20:55] <Lozzy_uk> Hi, got a problem with UbuntuStudio - I know there's a channel for that, but it's Ubuntu related...and specifically to gigolo
[20:55] <jbwiv> BussDriver, is that with Ubuntu 2D?
[20:55] <BussDriver> no
[20:55] <BussDriver> standard unity
[20:55] <cgfree> dr_willis, /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf - would this be considered my XF86Config/X.org ?
[20:55] <dr_willis> cgfree:  yes,  why are youneeding to edit it>
[20:56] <jbwiv> BussDriver, wow...I didn't think you could do compiz across 3 monitors. mind pastbin'ing your x config?
[20:56] <AnonMasochist> This problem is all over the forums, almost EVERY Ubuntu 10.04 user is experiancing this problem, this is no driver problem.
[20:56] <_jason> AnonMasochist: stop saying that...
[20:56] <dr_willis> if the fix is a 'kernel update' it sounds like a kernel/driver problem to me.
[20:57] <cgfree> dr_willis, I am editing it because I have come across issues with my Pen Tablet -- which when i #lsusb shows me it's recognized as Genius MousePen 5x4 Tablet and so it works - I  ran the #wizardpen-calibrate so that I could fix the errors where GIMP is not tracking the movement correctly...
[20:57] <_jason> AnonMasochist: you found a bug report for your issue? Not a forum thread; a bug report
[20:57] <Lozzy_uk> anyone know why when I launch Gigolo it switches my desktop to Nautilus dsktop?
[20:58] <cgfree> dr_willis, now after doing that, wizardpen-calibrate has given me a list of lines to add to my "XF86Config/X.Org" as it calls it
[20:59] <Lozzy_uk> no-one here uses Gigolo?
[20:59] <dr_willis> never even heard of it Lozzy_uk
[20:59] <Lozzy_uk> oh, it's a network share connect type app
[20:59] <AnonMasochist> Ubuntu 10.04 keeps completely freezing at random intervals requiring a hard reset, there is no fix available, this problem is happening to almost every Ubuntu 10.04 user and there is currently no fix!, AAAARRGH!!!!
[21:00] <_jason> AnonMasochist: why are you ignoring my question and constantly pasting the same useless comment over and over?
[21:00] <cgfree> dr_willis, sorry to bother you, but could you answer why my xorg.conf is listed as xorg.conf.d ?
[21:00] <dr_willis> AnonMasochist:  you stated the fix was comming out in a newer kernel earlier
[21:00] <owenll> AnonMasochist: there is a solution https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/528720
[21:00] <dr_willis> cgfree:  its not.. you can make a xorg.conf file if you want one.
[21:00] <Lozzy_uk> when I run it, it uses nautilus, and consequently switches my desktop
[21:00] <acidfrost> !repeat | AnonMasochist
[21:01] <dr_willis> Lozzy_uk:  what desktop are you using?
[21:01] <Lozzy_uk> xfce
[21:01] <TheExplorer>  "The package libstdc++6-4.5-dev needs to be reinstalled" This is popping up when i apt-get... anyone familiar with this?
[21:01] <cgfree> dr_willis, im a little new to ubuntu, but i have some basic knowledge... how would I make a xorg.conf?
[21:01] <Lozzy_uk> or trying to :)
[21:01] <Swamp> Hello, I have a problem with bluetooth headphones I bought. ubuntu doesn't like reconnecting to them. the only way to get it to connect again is to go through the whole pairing process
[21:01] <_jason> TheExplorer: reinstall it?
[21:01] <dr_willis> check its configs and see if you cant tell it to use the xffm or whatever file manager its using.
[21:01] <dr_willis> cgfree:  its a text file. use the sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf    type command.
[21:02] <TheExplorer> _jason: Thats kind of insulting.
[21:02] <dr_willis> cgfree:  or whatever other editor you like.
[21:02] <Lozzy_uk> I can, and I have - BUT if I then try and launch it from a startup script, it ignores that
[21:02] <SVNDR> If i wanted to upgrade from Ubuntu to Xubuntu would need to download a whole new ISO image?
[21:02] <dr_willis> SVNDR:  install the xubuntu-desktop package. and select xubuntu at the login screen..is how i normally do it.
[21:03] <dr_willis> then you can try out xubuntu, and switch back to gnome if you wanted to.
[21:03] <TheExplorer> SVNDR You can run Xubuntu and Ubuntu together. Just install XFCE and Ubuntu themes with XFCE tools
[21:03] <arno> hi
[21:03] <SVNDR> dr_willis: cheers
[21:03] <AnonMasochist> the link someone here just sent me saying it's a fix to my problem, wtf!?!, that thread is un-related completely!
[21:03] <Lozzy_uk> dr_willis: and thanks for your response btw
[21:03] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: is there an ISO image for it though, not that i want to do it that way, as the way yous have just described sound alot easier..
[21:04] <sewerurchin> SVDR: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[21:04] <cgfree> dr_willis, hmm, this seems odd because /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ is actually a directory, and within that dir theres what i think is a list of tablet configs.. eg. "10-evdev.conf" / "50-synaptics.conf" / "50-wacom.conf" ---
[21:04] <acidfrost> !paste | cgfree
[21:04] <SVNDR> sewerurchin: cheers
[21:04] <janisozaur> hello, I have quite a few small (~300MB) files that I'd like to record to dvd. is there a program that would automatically, optimally split the files to dvds?
[21:04] <sewerurchin> SVDR: Log out and select xubuntu
[21:04] <Guest51081> is there anybody here ,  my scanner print is not reconized, so i have made a starter with scangearmp
[21:04] <SVNDR> sewerurchin: alright thanks, and will everything i currently have stay? and roughly how big is the file?
[21:04] <AnonMasochist> IF ANYONE has a fix to the Ubuntu 10.04 freezing problem please dialog me new tab.
[21:05] <Swamp> can someone help me fix my problem with bluetooth? it keeps connecting and disconnecting when I tell it to connect with headphones I have already paired with it
[21:05] <acidfrost> !repeat | AnonMasochist
[21:05] <TheExplorer> SVNDR When you install XFCE (The desktop environment for Xubuntu) and its tools and themes, the only real difference is maybe... the login screen. You will have Gnome tools on your XFCE menus, but you can easily edit the menus
[21:05] <Guest51081> its work with scangear but dont work with simplscan
[21:05] <AnonMasochist> *facepalm*
[21:05] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: does the keyboard freeze as described in the bug report you've been given?
[21:05] <TheExplorer> SVNDR After you install it, Just change "sessions" when you log in, to XFCE and you will have the lighter environment
[21:06] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: oh ok.. and ill still have the option to use Ubuntu right?
[21:06] <AnonMasochist> that link is completely un-related to me ploblem,
[21:06] <AnonMasochist> wait
[21:06] <dr_willis> SVNDR:  you may want to check out Lubuntu also.
[21:06] <acidfrost> SVNDR dr_willis 's idea is much easier
[21:06] <AnonMasochist> accidental enter let me finnish
[21:06] <AnonMasochist> brb
[21:06] <TheExplorer> SVNDR Its all Ubuntu: Just with XFCE (Xubuntu) KDE (Kubuntu) or LXDE (Lubuntu) etc...
[21:07] <Swamp> can I get some help with bluetooth?
[21:07] <acidfrost> !ask | Swamp
[21:07] <TheExplorer> Swamp whats up with your BT?
[21:07] <SVNDR> dr_willis, acidfrost, TheExplorer: wow.. so lets just say, i have a current CPU overheating problem.. which one should i try first.. even if you dont think it will fix it, but what one goes easiest on the CPU
[21:07] <SVNDR> and RAm
[21:07] <acidfrost> SVNDR, fluxbox or any *box
[21:08] <Lozzy_uk> any ideas dr_willis ?
[21:08] <haylo> what is the cpu temperature?
[21:08] <acidfrost> SVNDR also buy a heatsink they're like 5$
[21:08] <Swamp> IT won't re connect with my headphones, instead it connects and reconnects over and over
[21:08] <TheExplorer> SVNDR: Right click ubuntu top task bar. Click "add to bar" add Cpu Throttle ("CPU scaling") widget. Use slider to control CPU speed. Aside form that, Get a can of air and take it to your HeatSink
[21:08] <AnonMasochist> It's not a keyboard issue, I'm experiencing system wide freezes that require a hard-reset.
[21:08] <raven> 11.10 + lmms depends on wine1.2 - how to edit debian controll file
[21:09] <AnonMasochist> random system wide freezes
[21:09] <acidfrost> !repeat | AnonMasochist
[21:09] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: ok, so things continue to happen on the screen? Can you reproduce the problem if you remove irqbalance? What about when booted from CD?
[21:09] <AnonMasochist> some programs in-use trigger the freezes more often.
[21:09] <SVNDR> acidfrost, TheExplorer: thanks ill try all them ideas, pretty bad heats, getting close to 80C this morning
[21:09] <AnonMasochist> like Firefox, Mixx, or Warsow game
[21:10] <agarwood> thank you every body !
[21:10] <Guest51081> hy i have config my scanner with scangear, why i cant use simply scan or Xsane ??
[21:10] <TheExplorer> SVNDR: Laptop, desktop, what?
[21:10] <AnonMasochist> solution?, /Dialo me, new teb.
[21:10] <acidfrost> SVNDR, thats pretty bad don't forget to clean your psu too
[21:10] <AnonMasochist> tab*
[21:10] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: I've made some suggestions here
[21:10] <acidfrost> SVNDR, you'd be amazed at how fast dust builds up in your system
[21:10] <AnonMasochist> shoot
[21:10] <raven> 11.10 + lmms depends on wine1.2 - how to edit debian controll file
[21:10] <Lozzy_uk> let me put it another way - if I launch a prog from terminal it's good, but if I launch it from a startup-script it ignores the prefs. Anyone know why that should happen?
[21:11] <haylo> what is this cpu throttle you speak of?
[21:11] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: laptop - acidfrost: i cleaned it out this morning, and last week when installing more RAM, not much dust at all.. and where can i get a heat sink?
[21:11] <acidfrost> Newegg
[21:11]  * AnonMasochist don't want to live on this planet anymore.
[21:11] <haylo> i am in 11.04 i dont see a cpu throttle
[21:11] <fhtagn> AnonMasochist: why don't you just kill yourself?
[21:11] <acidfrost> SVNDR, newegg or tigerdirect, bestbuy
[21:12] <AnonMasochist> fhtagn: thinkin' 'bout it.
[21:12] <jxshxx> Anyone available to assist w/ an OS that isn't booting?
[21:12] <gdoteof> i am wanting to move everything from one folder to another, including hidden files/folders
[21:12] <acidfrost> SVNDR, salvage one from an older computer (if it fits)
[21:12] <dr_willis> jxshxx:  give details to the channel of exactly what it is soind.
[21:12] <gdoteof> mv skips hidden
[21:12] <haylo> what is this cpu throttle you speak of?
[21:12] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: I made some suggestions earlier, perhaps they will help, see my reply to you 3 minutes ago
[21:12] <Guest51081> ok by
[21:12] <SVNDR> acidfrost: alright thanks again, and no old comps, unfortunately, scrapped two and sold most of the parts not to long ago
[21:12] <acidfrost> SVNDR, put a fan next to your computer(not a computer fan but a full size one)
[21:12] <TheExplorer> SVNDR Heatsink in laptop is irrelevant, you would need a fan. Pop open your laptop, find the heatsink (Get a diagram its easy stuff) and check for dust. IF you ever seen a heatsink it will make sense once you see it.
[21:12] <jxshxx> dr_willis: Detailed here - http://pastebin.com/J3XHemJe
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> dwatkins_  3 minutes ago, that's 500 lines ago
[21:13]  * AnonMasochist smashes head repeatedly against keyboard, whilst waiting for another SYSTEM WIDE FREEZE.
[21:13] <acidfrost> SVNDR, ahh missed the laptop then i'd go buy one of those cooling pads for laptops
[21:13] <budmang> Hey guys.. I had 3 monitors(3 different video cards) working on winxp... I wanted ubuntu :) and its not as easy as I thought..
[21:13] <Lozzy_uk> doon't be down Anonmasochist
[21:13] <dr_willis> budmang:  i had 3 monitors working ages and ages ago..  it was flakey then. :)
[21:13] <TheExplorer> Cooling pad wont work acidfrost if his Heatsnk is clogged.
[21:14] <SVNDR> acidfrost, TheExplorer: im trying to right these ideas down as fast as i can haha all sound pretty good
[21:14] <dr_willis> budmang:  are all the cards using teh same drivers?
[21:14] <Lozzy_uk> if I launch a prog from terminal it's good, but if I launch it from a startup-script it ignores the prefs. Anyone know why that should happen?
[21:14] <budmang> dr_willis: Id settle to get 2 up(then work on the 3rd heh).. no ati, nvidia and intel.
[21:14] <AnonMasochist> I can't scroll up, when I do, someone comment, and it brings me back to the bottom, that's crappy IRC client included with the OS for ya.
[21:14] <acidfrost> TheExplorer, yeah thats why we suggested to clean it out with air lol
[21:14] <TheExplorer> SVNDR: Fix the laptop... Open and clean... If fan = dead. Get new fan. Clock down like i told you until then
[21:14] <haylo> yeah 3 mons on three GPUs sounds sort of unrealistic unless you are building a long term linux install
[21:14] <dr_willis> AnonMasochist:  and which irc client is this?
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> AnonMasochist  then use another client
[21:14] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: first thing to do is to find the common factor in the crashes, is it the OS, the installation, the memory, the disk etc. if you can't see any errors that explain it in the dmesg or syslog
[21:14] <TheExplorer> SVNDR: With air, blow Opposite of heat exhaust air flow when its off!
[21:14] <AnonMasochist> Empathy
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> !info irssi| AnonMasochist
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> !info irssi
[21:15] <dr_willis> I perfer weechat over irssi these days. :)
[21:15] <dr_willis> Night all...
[21:15] <Lozzy_uk> nn dr
[21:15] <TheExplorer> "The package libstdc++6-4.5-dev needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an an
[21:15] <TheExplorer> archive for it."
[21:15] <acidfrost> MonkeyDust, you need a space before and after the pipe
[21:16] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: i tried adding the CPU thing to the top bar, but i cant right click for some reason.. when i hover over it i get options for file, edit..ect but no add option
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> !info irssi | MonkeyDust
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> acidfrost  !!
[21:16] <AnonMasochist> dwatkins_: the crashes are RANDOM the freezes are RANDOM!, no real consistency, GOOGLE 'Ubuntu 10.04 Freezing problem', you'l see what I mean in the forum threads!
[21:16] <TheExplorer> SVNDR Naked spot without a thingy
[21:17] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: that sounds like a hardware problem to me, do other operating systems also crash on the same PC?
[21:17] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: yep, tried all over it, couldnt get it lol
[21:17] <acidfrost> MonkeyDust, yeah try not to miss the spaces other wise you get page cleaners from ubottu like the one we just had
[21:17] <TheExplorer> SVNDR Add new bar, click on desktop
[21:17] <acidfrost> MonkeyDust, when in doubt just /msg ubottu
[21:18] <Lozzy_uk> if I launch a prog from terminal it's good, but if I launch it from a startup-script it behaves differently. Anyone know why?
[21:18] <AnonMasochist> dwatkins_: I only use Ubuntu on this machine, but SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MANY OTHER USERS HAVE THIS SAME PROBLEM AND FIND NOOOOOOOOO SOLUTION, as I am having no solution.
[21:18] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: still not finding it :\
[21:18] <TheExplorer> SVNDR dunno man. Should work
[21:18] <AnonMasochist> CHECK teh threads, GOOGLE 'Ubuntu 10.04 Freezing Problem' for more details on this problem!
[21:19] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: I appreciate there are many similar threads, but other people's freezing problems may be different, and some do have solutions.
[21:19] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: your talking about the bar right at the very top yea? with the Option Button, and Network Connection and such? and im supposed to click in the middle where its blank?
[21:20] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: how long does it take (on average) between booting up and the system freezing, or can it sometimes continue for a very long time without freezing?
[21:20] <Lozzy_uk> if I launch a prog from terminal it's good, but if I launch it from a startup-script it behaves differently. Anyone know why?
[21:21] <TheExplorer> SVNDR eeeeeyup Right there. Left click "add to bar"
[21:21] <TheExplorer> SVNDR "add to panel" to be exact. Looking at it right now
[21:21] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, just reinstall ubuntu, I've never ever had this freezing problem i've been using 10.04 since it came out, something you installed did this, or you have bad ram
[21:21] <AnonMasochist> Random system wide freezes, random intervals, each freeze requiring a hard-reset, sometimes the freezes occur a lot more often when certain programs are running, like Firefox, Mixx, and the Warsow game is the worst for inducing the SYSTEM WIDE FREEZE!
[21:22] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: 11.10 by anychance?
[21:22] <TheExplorer> SVNDR You can use the bottom too if you want but it might get in the way.
[21:22] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, then your ram is bad and or you have a bad gpu
[21:22] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: does the display stop changing? does the screen go black? is it possible to switch to the text console with ctrl+alt+F1?
[21:22] <AnonMasochist> I have re-installed Ubuntu 6 times from USB, 2 times from CD, SAME PROBLEMS!
[21:22] <TheExplorer> SVNDR Aaaaack... That... Unity desktop... thing. Yeah i have no clue, you have to ask them.
[21:22] <TheExplorer> SVNDR I use oldschool gnome
[21:22] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: also, what versions of Ubuntu have you tried? Which demonstrate the problem?
[21:22] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, well then try a different version of UBUNTU
[21:23] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: haha ow i see, whats the app called again? ill see if i can find
[21:23] <haylo> unity is working well for veiwing documents and general academic stuff for me
[21:23] <Y-DNA> what was the dd command to layout the iso into a usb flash drive??
[21:23] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, i'm seriously starting to believe your just here to troll as you keep repeating your self despite my attempts to tell you to be patient
[21:23] <haylo> i dont mind the snap to screen because i need everything enlarged right away
[21:23] <Lozzy_uk> Anonmasochist: that kind of proves your problem is probably with your hardware then Anon
[21:23] <Y-DNA> dd=of=ubuntu.iso /dev/sdX ??
[21:24] <TheExplorer> SVNDR its a CPU Throttle. I dont know how to add that to 11.10
[21:24] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, as i've stated before its bad ram or a bad gpu
[21:24] <haylo> yeah you have to drop of untiy  i think
[21:24] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: hope ill find a way, sounds usefull
[21:24] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: there's an application which will do that for you, system disk creator, iirc (or unetbootin if you have an older version of Ubuntu)
[21:24] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: correction, Startup Disk Creator
[21:25] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, its real common on ancient graphics cards and old ram
[21:25] <Lozzy_uk> if I launch an app from a terminal it works perfectly, but if I launch it from a startup-script it behaves differently. Anyone know why?
[21:25] <TheExplorer>  The package libstdc++6-4.5-dev needs to be reinstalled <--- "cant find archive for it" anyone know what i can do?
[21:25] <Y-DNA> dwatkins_: I am not on any install, unfortunately and don't have a CD/DVD burner. That's the situation here.
[21:25] <AnonMasochist> The screen freezes, sound usualy stops in a stutter, if playing music with Rhythm Box, that last track will continue to the end., no controls, no keyboard, no mouse, no FN keys NOTHING, total SYSTEM WIDE FREEZE.
[21:26] <snowrichard> i used to have problems like that with nvidia X driver
[21:26] <snowrichard> changed to vesa and it stopped
[21:26] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: what operating system are you using to create the USB bootable installation device?
[21:26] <TimTom1901_> hello
[21:27] <AnonMasochist> I built my computer from new parts last year, I can't use the £200 graphics card 'cos of OpenGL problems and no current working driver, I'm stuck with Intel I3 On-board graphics
[21:27] <Lozzy_uk> hi timtom
[21:27] <AnonMasochist> system is NOT ancient
[21:27] <AnonMasochist> ram is 4GB Corsair
[21:27] <AnonMasochist> 2 X 2GB
[21:27] <guntbert> AnonMasochist: even if you are angry - no need to "shout" all the time :)
[21:27] <Y-DNA> got it --> "dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX"
[21:27] <elops> how  to get a mic working on  ubuntu?
[21:27] <haylo> AnonMasochist, have you tried it with a different driver like say fglrx?
[21:28] <AnonMasochist> Motherboard is Gigabyte H55N Mini ITX
[21:28] <pinguinux> elops, you must config it in pulseaudio
[21:28] <Y-DNA>  dwatkins_ I am using LiveUSB sysrescuecd
[21:28] <budmang> anyone have issues with intel g31 graphics and ubuntu?
[21:28] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, bad ram enough said i've had this problem numerous times
[21:28] <pinguinux> pavucontrol
[21:28] <elops> me?
[21:28] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: what are you trying to do from the live CD? install Ubuntu?
[21:28] <elops> pavucontrol?
[21:28] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, it is possible to buy defective new products
[21:29] <elops> is it muted or what?
[21:29] <pinguinux> maybe
[21:29] <Lozzy_uk> acidfrost: I get the impression he's talking and not listening
[21:29] <AnonMasochist> haylo: screw the graphics card, I'll live with On-board graphics for now, I just want this freezing issue sorted!
[21:29] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: do other operating systems work ok on this PC?
[21:29] <acidfrost> Lozzy_uk, yeah i'm about ask for the ops to -q him
[21:29] <Y-DNA> dwatkins_: my goal is a LiveUSB
[21:29] <elops> any ideas?
[21:29] <acidfrost> *+q
[21:30] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: ok cool, what are you using to create it?
[21:30] <elops> how  to get a mic working on  ubuntu?
[21:30] <Y-DNA> dd
[21:30] <Y-DNA> dd doesn't have progress??
[21:30] <Y-DNA> :(
[21:30] <acidfrost> Lozzy_uk, it stands to reason that when a user talks and not listens that that user might be a bot
[21:30] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: from what operating system?
[21:30] <haylo> i use debians bpo kernel for running my high end gpu with no driver AnonMasochist
[21:30] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: no, dd will not show progress
[21:30] <AnonMasochist> I have tried Linux Min 9 XFCE from a Unetbootin Live USB, and although LinuxMint has major problems on my netbook, surprisingly none whatsoever with this system.
[21:31] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, then use Mint
[21:31] <Lozzy_uk> acidfrost: bloody clever one if that's true...I suspect he's just a lowly human :)
[21:31] <elops> i hear sound but just can't  use mic
[21:31] <mobius420> Greetings #Ubuntu
[21:31] <mobius420> elops, you are having trouble using your mic?
[21:31] <un1xdroop> oi
[21:31] <Y-DNA> how hard is to add progress to dd??
[21:32] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, if we don't get some form of a response to what we are telling you then i'll ask the ops to quiet you
[21:32] <un1xdroop> fala black
[21:32] <elops> mobius420 yes
[21:32] <Y-DNA> that's sheer sazyness
[21:32] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: have you tested the hard disk or tried another? any errors in /var/log/messages about disk problems?
[21:32] <Lozzy_uk> elops have you tried adjusting your mixer settings?
[21:32] <laureano-black> Helo un1xdroop
[21:32] <mobius420> elops,  are you using pulse ?
[21:32] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: you can make dd show progress, but it's a little tricky
[21:32] <Y-DNA> now I don't know how long will it take to perform the full operation
[21:32] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: how fast is the USB device and port?
[21:32] <Y-DNA> there should be a switch for that.
[21:33] <elops> where do i config it do i need to install pulseaudio
[21:33] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: ok  just downloaded xfce4-cpufreq-plugin from the software centre, not sure how im supposed to use it becuae i cant even find it..
[21:33] <AnonMasochist> like I said, so many other Ubuntu 10.04 users have reported my problem, got nowhere, gave up, said goodbye to Ubuntu., I WANT UBUNTU, I AM ACCUSTOMED TO UBUNTU, I just want the freezes to go away! (*quietly weeps*)
[21:33] <celord> hello all, using vmware sometimes my keyboard goes crazy, the Shift and Ctrl key dies, is there any way to "reload the keyboard" without reloading the X ?
[21:33] <elops> mobius420: no but i probably could
[21:33] <elops> where do i config it do i need to install pulseaudio
[21:33] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: many applications do have a progress bar, some command line ones even, but dd is quite basic; you can add progress if you want, though, but you need to know how large your source file is
[21:33] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: I heard Linux Mint is on the rise, specially how they are fixing Gnome3.
[21:33] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: please don't shout
[21:34] <Lozzy_uk> elops - I don't think you need to install pulse
[21:34] <elops> what to do?
[21:34] <AnonMasochist> I hate Gnome 3, I want the Gnome 2 Ubuntu 10.04, Ubuntu 10.04 is PERFECT for all my needs, I just want the freezing to end!
[21:35] <Y-DNA> dwatkins_:  is the ubuntu iso, according to ls -->  733261824
[21:35] <paulsomebody> Hello, sentient life forms. Can anyone advice me on what command line do I need to put in Startup Applications to make command run after a delay?
[21:35] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: you can apparently find out dd's progress whilst it's running, in a way
[21:35] <elops> where do i config it do i need to install pulseaudio
[21:35] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: Linux Mint what you're looking for
[21:35] <elops> ok i see that what one  would i need
[21:35] <AnonMasochist> Y-DNA: LM is too buggy for me
[21:35] <munzxttt> hi! .... how can i create a 'live usb' ... i have the 'iso' and i tried unebooten but it did not work!!
[21:36] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: it's not
[21:36] <elops> any ideas?
[21:36] <elops> i hear sound but just can't  use mic
[21:36] <AnonMasochist> why can't some clever dev just release a .DEB package that fixes all these freezing and crashing problems!?!
[21:36] <mobius420> elops, if you are using ALSA you might be able to check your mic using    alsamixer
[21:36] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: if you send the dd process the USR1 signal, it will print out its current statistics
[21:36] <TheExplorer> I give up on my issue. Im formatting the whole damn thing.
[21:36] <autif> munzxttt: use startup disk creator
[21:37] <paulsomebody> Okay, I have figured it out. It was 'sleep'. Totally unexpected.
[21:37] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: ha ha, I am creating a LiveUSB myself
[21:37] <Lozzy_uk> elops: see private dialog buddy
[21:37] <mobius420> elops,  from terminal type  alsamixer
[21:37] <mobius420> then make sure your mic is turned on
[21:37] <glebihan> paulsomebody, not sure you can do that directly, but you could put make a script with the sleep command and the real command, and then add that script to your startup apps
[21:37] <munzxttt> autif : it is available in the software center?!
[21:37] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: like this dd if=Downloads/kubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdX
[21:38] <Y-DNA> DAAAYYUUUUUUMM!!!!
[21:38] <Y-DNA> now I gotta reboot :(
[21:38] <AnonMasochist> Y-DNA: I tested LM on my netbook, although it was running from a live USB, it wasn't recognizing and USB sticks I pluged in, not buggy you say!?!
[21:38] <paulsomebody> glebihan: I think I can. If I put 'sleep 10 && …' in the terminal, it works.
[21:38] <AnonMasochist> and = any*
[21:38] <paulsomebody> glebihan: I see no reason why it would not work as expected in the system startup.
[21:38] <mobius420> can anyone tell me how to kill the webserver daemon which runs automatically in 11.04?
[21:38] <glebihan> paulsomebody, in the terminal, yes, but I'm not sure it'll work in startup applications (worth the try though)
[21:39] <mobius420> I am wishing to run a development server but it cannot run with the webserver already running
[21:39] <elops> In UBUNTU, I  hear sound but just can't  use mic
[21:39] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: I suggest you check out your hard disk
[21:40] <Y-DNA> elops: try gentoo, sound works outta da box
[21:40] <munki> hey all- having a weird problem on my netbook where the unity bar on the left seems like it is active (like when I click on things in the right space they happen) but it is invisible
[21:40] <elops> i dont want to try gentoo
[21:40] <elops> im in #ubuntu
[21:40] <mobius420> /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[21:40] <autif> mobius420: you can also use "service apache2 stop"
[21:40] <glebihan> Y-DNA, are you here just to suggest people to use other distributions ?
[21:40] <Y-DNA> elops: how about enabling the mic?? that should do it.
[21:41] <AnonMasochist> I am an IT Technician, I HATE Mac and Windows, 'cos they suck and are un-ethical, immoral, and now I hate Linux, AAAARRGH!!!!
[21:41] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: does the problem happen if you boot from the Ubuntu live USB image?
[21:41] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: perhaps your machine is broken?
[21:41] <AnonMasochist> dwatkins_: the freezing problem?
[21:41] <shades> how do I check to see if a package is installed/
[21:41] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: yeah
[21:41] <AnonMasochist> yes
[21:41] <acidfrost> !ops | AnonMasochist ( refuses to listen and repeatedly asked the same question) please quiet him
[21:42] <bastidrazor> acidfrost: that isn't a reason to call a channel emergency.
[21:42] <Lozzy_uk> shades: use either synaptic or ubuntu software centre
[21:42] <budmang> intel gma3100 ... graphics seem super slow.. monitor shows up as unknown in displays.. resolutions is right... what am I missing?
[21:42] <bastidrazor> shades: apt-cache policy packagename
[21:42] <AnonMasochist> Y-DNA: evidence from looking on many many forums would suggest my machine is NOT broken.
[21:42] <shades> lozzy_uk i'm trying to do it from the cli
[21:43] <AnonMasochist> this is a problem with the Ubuntu OS itself!]
[21:43] <elops> In UBUNTU, I  hear sound but just can't  use mic
[21:43] <Y-DNA> lawlwut??? after dd'ing it went from W95 FAT32 to Hidden HPFS/NTFS and is not showing the ISO partition!!
[21:43] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: it might be a driver issue, have you installed the Intel driver? What about when booted from USB?
[21:43] <zx81> hi
[21:43] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: in which circumstances does the machine congeal?
[21:43] <zx81> i have a hdd usb
[21:44] <zx81> hd usb not reconized ???$*
[21:44] <acidfrost> bastidrazor, stands to reason that he may just be a bot, he doesn't acknowledge anything we say
[21:44] <elops> SHOULD i use pulseaudio manager????
[21:44] <dwatkins_> elops: I found that padevchooser helped
[21:45] <AnonMasochist> Google 'Ubuntu 10.04 Freezing Problem', look at the forums, then give me a solution, 'cos at the moment, all I'm hearing is diagnostics that are ridiculously obvious, that I have of-course tried myself!
[21:45] <shades> Installed: (none) means it's not installed?
[21:45] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: the results you get from that query are too generic, that are most likely not caused by the same problem
[21:45] <bastidrazor> shades: correct.
[21:45] <elops> padevchooser ?
[21:45] <Y-DNA> can the Live ISO install packages?
[21:45] <acidfrost> bastidrazor, if he's not then he's trolling, i mean come on he asked the same thing 20 times said other users reported the error and then gave no further information, hasn't acknowledged much of what anyone has said
[21:46] <acidfrost> either
[21:46] <AlanBell> Y-DNA: yes, it can
[21:46] <Y-DNA> ok
[21:46] <guntbert> AnonMasochist: just a question from the side line: why are you insisting on 10.04?
[21:46] <dwatkins_> elops: yeah, you'll need to install it, but it might help, sorry but I don't know much else about pulseaudio
[21:46] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: have you tried 11.10?
[21:47] <AnonMasochist> I am currently using Intel I3 On-Board Graphics, graphics THAT generic would of-course work by default with Ubuntu 10.04 I assume.
[21:47] <dwatkins_> acidfrost: I suspect AnonMasochist needs to use a better IRC client, as apparently empathy isn't scrolling
[21:47] <Plinkett> Would a question about package files be appropriate here?
[21:47] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: actually no, that was a bit broken for the VGA port on laptops up to a few weeks ago unless you were running a kernel from a PPA
[21:47] <acidfrost> dwatkins_, i suspect he's just ignoring everything we've said
[21:48] <elops> AlanBell
[21:48] <elops> In UBUNTU, I  hear sound but just can't  use mic
[21:48] <elops> what to do?
[21:49] <AnonMasochist> guntbert: Ubuntu 10.04 is where everything (except freezing) was okay, Ubuntu onwards has too many changes, Ubuntu 10.04 is LTS, besides, I just set EVERYTHING up!, all my programs are installed, all my files are where I want them, configurations etc...
[21:49] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: have you tried booting from a liveCD and choosing the memtest86 option and leaving it running overnight?
[21:49] <autif> elops: install pavucontrol and play around with it
[21:49] <shades> what was the command that would tell you what dependencies a package had?
[21:49] <AnonMasochist> AlanBell: yes, of-couse, tested okay.
[21:49] <AnonMasochist> course*
[21:50] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: yeah, but it might provide interesting and useful information if you discover that say 11.10 works on a liveCD
[21:50] <BussDriver> jbwiv: Sorry, I had to take care of some other things.  I have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[21:50] <BussDriver> jbwiv: That's just how 11.10 works now by default I believe.
[21:51] <Glitchd> elops, what version ubuntu?
[21:51] <BussDriver> jbwiv: You just go to System Settings - Displays - and enable all three monitors and place them how you want.
[21:51] <budmang> intel gma3100 ... graphics seem super slow.. monitor shows up as unknown in displays.. resolutions is right... what am I missing?
[21:51] <Y-DNA> jesus christ!! I have to reboot :(
[21:51] <AnonMasochist> everybody get 1 thing straight okay, I have set up everything how I want it, I am NOT changing to another OS, I like Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, I am sticking to it, I just want the damned freezing problem to go away, SYSTEM WIDE FREEZES SUCK!!!
[21:52] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: yes, we know
[21:52] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: u could try linux mint.
[21:52] <Humbedooh> budmang, I'd say you're missing a proper graphics cards :p
[21:52] <Glitchd> elops, ?????
[21:52] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: so, is there anything in the logs?
[21:52] <mobius420> could someone explain how to stop the apache instance running in 11.04 out of the box I would be most appreciative
[21:52] <AnonMasochist> Y-DNA: too buggy
[21:52] <budmang> Humbedooh: ha...I swear Ive used it with older ubuntus flawless..
[21:52] <mobius420> Glitchd,  elops in PM
[21:53] <guntbert> AnonMasochist: please accept that we don't owe you anything, so we don't need to "get 1 thing straight" - we are all volunteers and try to help as well as possible
[21:53] <AnonMasochist> dwatkins_: sames as everyone else in the forums, x-session errors
[21:53] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: you need to provide actionable information that people can use to help you
[21:53] <Captain14> you mean I should send the paycheck I got from here back
[21:53] <Captain14> ;-(
[21:53] <mobius420> AnonMasochist,  what are you having problems with?
[21:53] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: if the system had frozen, it couldn't have written to the logfiles, check against the exact time of the freeze in the messagelog and xorg log.
[21:54] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: does it still respond on the network after the display freezes? can you still ping it or ssh to it?
[21:54] <acidfrost> I wouldn't bother answering him , its either a bot or he's here to troll
[21:54] <AnonMasochist> I am currently being forced to use crappy Opera Internet Browser, 'cos for some reason, Ubuntu doesn't crash much when that's running.
[21:54] <Y-DNA> over time I have come to the realization that ppl are victim of their own fault rather than the OS.
[21:54] <AlanBell> can you ctrl+alt+f1 to a terminal?
[21:54] <shades> it was apt-get something something ??
[21:54] <shades> i can't remember ;(
[21:54] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: could it be an overheating problem? clean the fans?
[21:54] <Y-DNA> linux is supposed to be rocks solid, if the freeze is system wide the only wrong thing is the user.
[21:55] <Humbedooh> apt-cache depends packagenameher
[21:55] <AnonMasochist> AlanBell: I'm not a network admin, I am an IT Techie, no overheating, hardware is all okay, I can assure you of that.
[21:55] <acidfrost> and we tried earlier to help him but apparently nothing got through
[21:55] <shades> after installing php5-pgsql do I need to do anything special for this to allow me to have php5 interact with postgress?
[21:55] <dwatkins_> I agree with AlanBell's suggestions, check console and sensors.
[21:55] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: do you have another computer you can run a ping and telnet test from?
[21:55] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: not asking for any advanced network stuff, just can you ping it?
[21:56] <AnonMasochist> DEFINITELY NO RELATED HARDWARE PROBLEMS
[21:56] <AnonMasochist> how can I ping it with no local network!?!
[21:56] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: we're trying to help, please don't shout
[21:56] <Humbedooh> shades, apt-cache depends (package name)
[21:56] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: we don't know about your network configuration, or lack of it
[21:56] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: if I suggest a command I would take an arrow to the knee.
[21:56] <blitz> there doesn't need to actually be something overheating, for a sensor to report it as such...
[21:57] <vouth> Hi, I just accidentally dragged my cairo-dock custom main menu (many times nested) out of the dock, and it vanished. I put a LOT of time into getting it right. How can I undo it?
[21:57] <pangolin> !behelpful | Y-DNA
[21:58] <gastronomixical> Over 1,500 people?!
[21:58] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: do you have any additional cards in the PC which aren't needed for the OS to boot? Have you tried removing them in case there's some conflict?
[21:58] <gastronomixical> Insane
[21:58] <budmang> intel gma3100 ... graphics seem super slow.. monitor shows up as unknown in displays.. resolutions is right... what am I missing? Anyone have an integrated intel card working well>
[21:58] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: I've followed your long winding tantrum, but at no point do you offer diagnoses sourrounding your problem.
[21:58] <acidfrost> budmang, yeah my gma950 is running fine
[21:58] <AnonMasochist> ugh I hate having to use the BASH command line, it scares me, being all annoying to use 'n' stuff, but if it would help anyone help me, I guess I could type in a few commands and paste the output.
[21:58] <mobius420> why is there a webserver running out of the box on my ubuntu install?
[21:58] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: do you have a network?
[21:59] <mobius420> and can anyone suggest how to kill it?
[21:59] <acidfrost> mobius420, you shouldn't have one
[21:59] <Kurdistan> Hi is there any one that knows how to get microphone working with nvidia hdmi. this person does have "home made" computer?
[21:59] <blitz> do you have htop mobius420 ?
[21:59] <Kurdistan> if any one can I will give more information
[21:59] <acidfrost> mobius420, assuming its apache, sudo killall -9 apache2
[21:59] <AlanBell> mobius420: apart from CUPS there shouldn't be one. How did you install Ubuntu?
[22:00] <blitz> ps -ef |grep apache to find out
[22:00] <AlanBell> mobius420: what is being served? what does it say on the page you see?
[22:00] <haylo> i love bash
[22:00] <AnonMasochist> I am an IT Technician, I have personally removed any hardware including graphics card which are not needed for the system to boot, to ensure no hardware conflicts.
[22:00] <Y-DNA> Oo
[22:00] <Y-DNA> lol
[22:00] <budmang> acidfrost: anything you can think Im missing? basic install... g33t-m2 motherboard(integrated gma3100 or g31)..
[22:00] <felipe_Brz> where can I obtain all dictionary files that come inside the */usr/share/dict* folder in ubuntu's in different languages??
[22:01] <mobius420> My situation is this:  I am trying to run a development server called xampp. It's a very simple Apache bundle server and it normally extracted to  /opt  and started with equally simple commands
[22:01] <budmang> acidfrost: seems like the intel drivers are loaded etc.. monitor shows as unknown in displays.
[22:01] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: are u dong a network boot??
[22:01] <AnonMasochist> all slots are empty.
[22:01] <Kurdistan> brb
[22:01] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: on another computer on your network (you are an IT tech so I presume you can find one to use even temporarily) ping the IP address of your ubuntu machine (doesn't matter if the thing pinging is windows mac or linux)
[22:01] <mobius420> but when I try to run the server I am told there is another webserver daemon running on this machine
[22:01] <Plinkett> Anyone familiar with using sqlite in tcl?
[22:01] <blitz> budmang, have you tried installing proprietary drivers?
[22:01] <glebihan> mobius420, you shouldn't install that on ubuntu. apache is in the repos and that's the one you should use
[22:01] <AnonMasochist> Y-DNA: I'm way too poor to afford a PXE server.
[22:02] <acidfrost> budmang, i'm just using the default 10.04
[22:02]  * Y-DNA somehow doesn't believe masochist is an IT at all.
[22:02] <acidfrost> budmang, you could try installing the intel drivers
[22:02] <budmang> acidfrost: this is 11.10... maybe I should try 10.?
[22:02] <multipass> anyone know what the problem with my amdcccle might be? It crashes without any error report(running in terminal) when I click apply after trying to change my dual monitor setup.
[22:02] <haylo> im tracking posts per minute starting now
[22:02] <Lozzy_uk> if I launch an app from a terminal it works perfectly, but if I launch it from a startup-script it behaves differently. Anyone know why?
[22:02] <blitz> before you do that budmang open up system settings and click additional drivers
[22:02] <acidfrost> budmang, you could if you don't mind losing your stuff, but it'd be easier to try the drivers
[22:03] <mobius420> blitz,   here is the output of that grep
[22:03] <mobius420> http://pastebin.com/6tXXSfA6
[22:03] <mobius420> is that a pid?
[22:03] <blitz> that means no apache server is running
[22:03] <AlanBell> Lozzy_uk: the environment might be different, what app and how did you add the startup script
[22:03] <budmang> blitz: the only ones that show up there are for the 2nd nvidia card(which Im not using or displaying anything currently) working on the first card 1st.
[22:03] <mobius420> blitz,  okay
[22:03] <AnonMasochist> I am on the problem computer as we speak, using it to talk to you people, so I assume the networking hardware is all okay, not that it would have even mattered with this particular non-network related problem.
[22:04] <vouth> Hi, I just accidentally dragged my cairo-dock custom main menu (many times nested) out of the dock, and it vanished. I put a LOT of time into getting it right. How can I undo it?
[22:04] <blitz> if you want mobius420, do sudo apt-get install htop
[22:04] <blitz> then you can run htop
[22:04] <blitz> and look at all the processes and kill ones
[22:04] <AnonMasochist> I see no reason why pingin' this thing would help this problem in any way
[22:04] <AlanBell> mobius420: how are you starting xampp? if you start it with your normal user you won't be allowed to take port 80, only root can grab ports below 1024 so you might need to start it with sudo, or pick a high port
[22:04] <Lozzy_uk> AlanBell: the app is Gigolo, and I put it in a script in my home dir called by the startup group from GUI
[22:04] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: the point is not to determine if the problem is related to networking, but to find out if when the machine "freezes" whether it's entirely hung, or if the OS is still running, but not responding to input, hence the questions about the text console, whether ctrl+alt+F1 works.
[22:05] <AlanBell> mobius420: or do some iptables remapping to have it run as a regular user on port 80 if you really want to
[22:05] <renemoraes> hello is there any graphic cards ninja online there?
[22:05] <AlanBell> !ask
[22:06] <AnonMasochist> AlanBell: look, I am talking to you right now with this machine, so that gives you a few clues.
[22:06] <mobius420> AlanBell,  I am using sudo, otherwise xampp would not run.
[22:06] <AlanBell> gives me the clue that it hasn't frozen for some time AnonMasochist
[22:06] <Lozzy_uk> no need to be sarcastic Anon
[22:06] <auronandace> AnonMasochist: how often does it freeze?
[22:07] <SVNDR> Ummmm.. my mouse isnt moving.. i just restarted my laptop after uninstalling UbuntuOne, and now my mouse isnt responding lol...
[22:07] <renemoraes> I'm using a Dell with 2 graphics card: Intel Sandybrigde and AMD Hd Radeon. But I'm not able to turn the intel ones off and just use AMD... is there a way to do that?
[22:08] <blitz> mhm
[22:08] <AlanBell> mobius420: ok, not sure then. If you just want a LAMP server I would do sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin which gets everything all set up and installs a GUI tool on http://localhost/phpmyadmin for poking about in the mysql database. Much easier for us to support than xampp
[22:08] <AnonMasochist> AlanBell: the freezing is usually triggered during the use of certain programs, I have identified Firefox,  Mixxx, and the game Warsow are the main triggers for the freeze, especially Warsow game.
[22:08] <mobius420> http://pastebin.com/MKsWBB8C
[22:08] <blitz> how do you get out of tty after doing ctr+alt+f1
[22:08] <mobius420> AlanBell,  http://pastebin.com/MKsWBB8C
[22:08] <dwatkins_> blitz: ctrl+alt+F7
[22:08] <blitz> wish I had known that :(
[22:08] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: ok, in that case, it is hitting bad ram, or it is overheating.
[22:09] <SVNDR> blitz: i did the same thing earlier haha
[22:09] <SVNDR> blitz: had to restart my laptop
[22:09] <AnonMasochist> it is definitely NOT any hardware!]
[22:09] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: how have you tested the temperature?
[22:09] <blitz> software could be reporting false negatives
[22:09] <auronandace> AnonMasochist: why are you so certain?
[22:09] <AnonMasochist> like I said, Linix Min as buggy as it is, had no problem with this hardware
[22:10] <AnonMasochist> Linux Mint*
[22:10] <blitz> false positives even
[22:10] <SVNDR> URGENT!!!!  my mouse isnt moving.. i just restarted my laptop after uninstalling UbuntuOne, and now my mouse isnt responding lol...
[22:10] <SVNDR> lol
[22:10] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: Linux Mint might manage the fans differently
[22:10] <AlanBell> mobius420: ok, that is trying to do https which will be grabbing port 443, not port 80
[22:10] <AlanBell> mobius420: running skype by any chance? that sometimes grabs ports like that
[22:11] <haylo> if your mouse isnt working after removing ubuntu one you need to install the program cheese
[22:11] <AlanBell> svndr: learn to love the keyboard, or take it out and plug it in again if it is a USB mouse
[22:11] <AnonMasochist> AlanBell: if you're so sure it's a hardware problem, of which I can confirm it is not, tell me what BASH commands you want the output of and I'll type them.
[22:12] <Lozzy_uk> nn all - good luck with your quests :)
[22:12] <mobius420> AlanBell,  it is a fresh install of ubuntu, I seem to remember finding a fix in the past to correct this problem but I am uable to remember how
[22:13] <mobius420> but thanks immensely for the pointers
[22:13] <glebihan> mobius420, if I may repeat myself, you should not use xampp
[22:13] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: the way to test memory is boot a live CD and choose the memtest86 option from the menu before it boots, and leave it running for lots of hours
[22:13] <mobius420> glebihan,  I've been using xampp for over 5 years, it's a perfectly apache server which is easy to configure and work with. It would be couter-productive for me to switch servers at this pint
[22:14] <AlanBell> if you get red stuff, remove some ram and test again until you have isolated the bad stick
[22:14] <mobius420> but again thanks for the tips :)
[22:14] <glebihan> mobius420, apache is in the repos, and is just as easy to conifgure
[22:14] <mobius420> just a process conflict, I will get it sorted somehow :)
[22:14] <AlanBell> mobius420: it isn't switching servers, it is the same thing, but packaged and preconfigured
[22:14] <glebihan> mobius420, xampp=apache+mysql+php so it's the same thing
[22:15] <mobius420> glebihan,  oh okay
[22:15] <AnonMasochist> My Mini ITX system has a 120MM fan on the front, ans sufficient hard to find scaled down Akasa miniature up-right heatsink with fan and heatpipes, and right next to it, a PSU with a fan dragging out warm air. no overheating for and I3 with on-board graphics here!
[22:15] <cyxob> Hi. Can anybody point how to resolve a problem?  I have laptop emashines e525 with ubuntu 12.04 on a board. After booting the system after 10 minutes CPU fan starts to work endlessly on a max speed. I have checked CPU temp it's normal (around 50 degrees)
[22:15] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: run "watch sensors" in a teminal and start the offending applications, just to be sure (you might need to configure lm-sensors)
[22:16] <Chipzzz> AnonMasochist: there is the possibility of an overheating northbridge... but I just got here & don't know much about your problem
[22:17] <glebihan> !ubuntu+1 | cyxob
[22:17] <auronandace> Chipzzz: he's sure it isn't a hardware problem but hasn't really explained why he is so sure
[22:18] <AnonMasochist> wow I can't belive I've never heard of 'watch sensors' I've been needing a temperature sensor program for soo freakin' long!
[22:18] <gh0strider> does anyone here have any experience with setting u the globalsat usb gps device with ubuntu + gpsd ?
[22:18] <AnonMasochist> temp1:       +43.0C  (low  = +127.0C, high = +127.0C)  sensor = thermistor
[22:18] <AnonMasochist> temp2:       +25.0C  (low  = +127.0C, high = +127.0C)  sensor = thermistor
[22:18] <AnonMasochist> temp3:       +17.0C  (low  = +127.0C, high = +127.0C)  sensor = thermistor
[22:18] <lordjj> AnonMasochist but what are all those temps?
[22:18] <AnonMasochist> those mah temps.
[22:19] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: I mean to run it and examine the output whilst the machine "freezes"
[22:19] <AnonMasochist> that's the output of 'watch sensors'
[22:19] <Chipzzz> auronandace: it sounds like he has a lot invested in high end hardware... feels secure in its stability
[22:19] <AnonMasochist> I would imagine temp1 is the CPU
[22:19] <lordjj> AnonMasochist, I know I use it. But I have 6 different temps. What is all that stuff...
[22:19] <dwatkins_> "watch" will repeat the command every 2 seconds, AnonMasochist - you should be able to have it in another window and see it when running one or two of the applications which appear to lead to the "freeze"
[22:19] <_jason> blitz: alt-f7
[22:19] <dwatkins_> also, please don't paste to this channel, please use pastebin
[22:20] <sskalnik> Are the Server CDs "live" or just for installation? Basically, can I use one to get a shell and rescue a system?
[22:20] <_jason> sskalnik: I believe they are just for installation
[22:20] <AlanBell> sskalnik: not live
[22:21] <Chipzzz> sskalnik: you can get a shell & rescue prompt with a live cd
[22:21] <Chipzzz> ... sorry ... server cd
[22:21] <gh0strider> does anyone know of a tutorial for setting up the globalsat bu-353 for ubuntu?
[22:21] <AlanBell> or you can use a regular desktop live cd to do your rescuing
[22:22] <sskalnik> Cool, thanks
[22:22] <wxl> anyone familiar how to use apt (not aptitude) to figure out why a package was installed? i'm assuming apt-cache rdepends but it seems to pull up packages that i don't have installed. how do i limit it to only what i have installed?
[22:22] <_jason> wxl: you mean apt-get?
[22:22] <wxl> _jason: no but if you know a way to use apt-get to do it sure
[22:23] <_jason> wxl: I don't know what you mean by "apt"
[22:23] <wxl> _jason: apt-cache and apt-get are both part of apt
[22:23] <glebihan> wxl, why exactly don't you want to use aptitude for that ?
[22:23] <jbwiv> BussDriver, wow...so it's working with no special config. Cool...i'll give that a shot. thanks!
[22:23] <wxl> glebihan: because i don't freaking like it :D
[22:23] <TA5K> Hi, does anybody know a tool with which I can fill out PDF forms ?
[22:23] <glebihan> wxl, well, that's too bad because apt can't do that ;)
[22:24] <dot-slash> register password
[22:24] <wxl> glebihan: can't do that or you think it can't do it? let's remember apt(itude) is an apt front end
[22:24] <dot-slash> how do you register again? with nickserv?
[22:24] <_jason> !register | dot-slash
[22:24] <Seveas> wxl, try apt-get remove and say no to the confirmation. It'll show you what it wants to remove if you remove the package.
[22:24] <dot-slash> _jason, ty
[22:24] <glebihan> wxl, I'm pretty sure it can't
[22:24] <AlanBell> wxl: you can poke about in /var/log/apt to find out when it was installed
[22:24] <wxl> Seveas: that's one possibility but a risky one
[22:25] <Chipzzz> wxl: i would check your dependencies... it sounds like they aren't all met
[22:25] <wxl> Chipzzz: ?
[22:25] <BussDriver> jbwiv: correct, all defaults.
[22:25] <AlanBell> Chipzzz: not sure you are answering the same question there!
[22:25] <Seveas> wxl, no, not risky at all. apt-get will ask for a confirmation. YOu caould also do apt-get -n remove package foe a dry run
[22:25] <_jason> wxl: it's not really risky; you can make it less risky with the --simulate flag I guess
[22:25] <Jon--> Suspend works on laptop, hibernate does not.  Aptitude is very good at resolving such conflicts
[22:27] <Jon--> AlanBell, Thnx for update though
[22:27] <_jason> oops
[22:27] <lordjj> rage quit...
[22:28] <dwatkins_> lordjj: very much so :-/
[22:28] <Seveas> lordjj, hey, if that makes him feel better, so be it. Hope another distro at least keeps him on the free software side
[22:29] <zack> any subversion experts here?
[22:29] <Seveas> wouldn't call myself an expert, but shoot
[22:29] <dot-slash> hardly an expert, I know a little....
[22:29] <AlanBell> Jon--: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[22:29] <zack> I do a svn ci $filename
[22:29] <Jon--> Alan, 11.04
[22:29] <ZooMonkey> Hey all! I have a setup I'm required to run for a piece of hardware that needs setup. Near the end of it's setup, it runs- "rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" , which would remove my net rules. I am then told to reboot. Will rebooting auto-re-build the persistent.rules file??? Will my net work afterwords?
[22:30] <zack> and vim pops up with a diff every single time, I want to turn it off
[22:30] <_jason> zack: there's likely a subversion channel where you can ask for help
[22:30] <somsip> zack: svn ci -m "Message goes here"
[22:30] <Seveas> diff or list of files?
[22:30] <Chipzzz> ZooMonkey: I would put a copy of your rules file somewhere safe just in case
[22:31] <Seveas> haven't seen it pop up a diff, but popping up $EDITOR with a list of changed files is default behaviour as it wants a commit message. See somsip's message for a noninteractive way of doing that.
[22:31] <zack> yeah, it annoyingly splits the windows in vim and defaults to the non message window, something I want to turn off
[22:31] <dot-slash> zack, I usually just do: svn commit -m "my message"
[22:31] <ZooMonkey> it is also after the install of vnc. Would that make sense? Would setting up VNC need that to be changed I wonder?
[22:31] <bean> ZooMonkey: it should. That file just keeps track of the interfaces.
[22:31] <bean> And gets rebuilt on boot, pretty sure
[22:31] <zack> somsip, dot-slash nice tips cheers
[22:31] <Seveas> zack, hmm, I didn't know svn could do that, I'd like to turn that on :) Anyway, look through ~/.subversion
[22:31] <ZooMonkey> Chipzzz: Yeah not a bad idea
[22:32] <ZooMonkey> bean: OK, I had a suspicion it might. Thanks :)
[22:32] <Jon--> Alan, I'm attempting a suspend now for debugging. I'll let you know when I'm back
[22:33] <zack> Seveas, I can do it manually if I need it. But it can be a bit annoying because it highlights the wrong vim window meaning I have to C - W then navigate to it every time :(
[22:33] <Jon--> Alan, Back, only hibernate fails, suspend is fine.
[22:33] <Seveas> zack, maybe you installed a vim plugin that does this?
[22:34] <AlanBell> Jon--: http://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/disable-suspend-and-hibernate-ubuntu/
[22:34] <_jason> Seveas, zack: vim plugin would be my guess too
[22:36] <dr3mro> hello , when will firefox 9.0 and thunderbird 9.0 hit the ubuntu repositories ?
[22:36] <Jon--> AlanBell, Hopefully I am correct in hibernate being the problem and it's not something weird with having it suspended too long. Thanks
[22:36] <TA5K> As I see there is no simple FOSS GUI for adding annotions in PDFs
[22:37] <zack> hmmm, could be, I'll take a look
[22:38] <puff_> well now thats weird I could have sworn the update manager was in the dock yesterday it seems to have disappeared
[22:40] <nardev> is there any linux gnome/kda "auto mount" application? So taht i can mount images bin/iso/dmg etc just with click?
[22:40] <nardev> is there any linux gnome/kde "auto mount" application? So taht i can mount images bin/iso/dmg etc just with click?
[22:41] <zack> ah, just did mv ~/.vim ~/.vim_nope
[22:41] <zack> and its all fine
[22:42] <felipe_Brz> where can I obtain all dictionary files that come inside the */usr/share/dict* folder in ubuntu's in different languages??
[22:42] <zack> someone had sneaked a line into our shared vim configs, grrrrr
[22:42] <hiltonmagk> trying to install ubuntu 11.04 from USB and it keeps looking for a cdrom drive that I don't have please help
[22:45] <zack> hiltonmagk, sounds like your bios is set to boot from cd
[22:45] <glebihan> nardev, the "gvfs-backends" package provides a tool called "archive mounter" that can be used to mount such files. I know it works on gnome and integrates with nautilus, not sure about kde
[22:46] <Chipzzz> hiltonmagk: does it see the USB drive or does the bios just complain about no CD?
[22:46] <hiltonmagk> it's the Ubuntu install that complains
[22:46] <hiltonmagk> it boots right into the installer fine
[22:47] <zack> hiltonmagk, wow, that sound broke
[22:47] <hiltonmagk> lol you might say that
[22:47] <irocksu> hi
[22:48] <irocksu> what is the easiest way to setup a "global" ubuntu repositoy with a bunch of debs.
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> hiltonmagk: did you MD5 test the ISO you used?
[22:48] <irocksu> i want to reach it through my network, not with file://
[22:48] <trism> felipe_Brz: there are packages for several languages, such as wspanish, wpolish, wogerman: apt-cache search wordlist; seems to show most of them
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> irocksu: do you mean like a locel repo?
[22:49] <hiltonmagk> ActionParsnip: Yes
[22:49] <Chipzzz> hiltonmagk: so, when you try to run it as a live CD, it complains about no CD?
[22:49] <zack> hi, that svn/vim problem was caused by a sneaky file in ~/.vim/ftplugin/svn.vim
[22:49] <irocksu> ActionParsnip: yeah, but i do not want scanpackage
[22:49] <zack> all fixed now bwahahaha, thanks all
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> irocksu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocalAptGetRepository
[22:49] <mobius420> greetings #ubuntu
[22:50] <Seveas> irocksu, reprepro
[22:50] <meway> whats the most compatible http server with ubuntu?
[22:50] <felipe_Brz> trism:  oh cool thanks
[22:50] <hiltonmagk> Chipzzzz: I'm installing the server edition
[22:50] <yumbo> meway, lighttpd, apache or nginx would be perfect
[22:50] <dr3mro> hello , when will firefox 9.0 and thunderbird 9.0 hit the ubuntu repositories ?
[22:50] <Chipzzz> hiltonmagk: when does it complain about the lack of a CD?
[22:50] <meway> yumbo, something easy and does not take hours to configure
[22:50] <yumbo> meway, I found ligttpd to be very easy
[22:51] <meway> yumbo, works with php?
[22:51] <yumbo> sure
[22:51] <meway> mysql?
[22:51] <hiltonmagk> Chipzzz: When it's doing through the install steps I think after it detects keyboard settings
[22:51] <yumbo> meway, I think, yes
[22:52] <meway> yumbo, sudo apt-get "???"
[22:52] <yumbo> meway, lighttpd
[22:52] <irocksu> thanks guys i will look into your suggestions :)
[22:52] <yumbo> and for php and mysql: lighttpd mysql-client mysql-server php5-mysql php5-fpm
[22:53] <Chipzzz> hiltonmagk: hmm... that doesn't sound good. Can you burn the ISO to a CD?
[22:53] <meway> yumbo, forgot "install" deh >.<
[22:53] <hiltonmagk> I used Linux Live USB Creator if that means anything
[22:53] <mobius420> If anyone would be willing to help me identify an unknown webserver daemon running out of the box in ubuntu 11.04 please hit me up. So far no one can identify it
[22:53] <mobius420> 11.10 rather
[22:53] <hiltonmagk> Chipzzz: No CdRom Drive
[22:54] <itaylor57> mobius420, there is not webservice running by default on 11.10
[22:55] <SVNDR> How do i use the command 'pwmconfig' ? I have downloaded 'lm-sensors' which is supposed to activate that command, except i still cannot use it.. any suggestions?
[22:55] <Chipzzz> hiltonmagk: sounds like a problem in the USB creation... it might not have been expecting to be written to a USB stick & has hard-coded stuff requiring a CD
[22:55] <robbbie> SVNDR: did you run sensors-detect ?
[22:56] <tash> I thought the owner of a directory/file could chown that directory/file...
[22:56] <SVNDR> robbbie: yea i did, should i of configured something in there?
[22:56] <tash> however that doesn't seem to be true ...
[22:57] <tash> I have a web server script that creates dome directories and the ownership is www-data:www-data upon creation. I want to chang ownership, but it seems that the apache user (www-data) doesn't have permissions to do that
[22:57] <tash> even though the directory is 775 and www-data:www-data, can someone explain? Or, do I need to go to #ubuntu-server?
[22:58] <tash> argh, think I might have found my answer on the chown man page
[22:58] <_jason> tash: yes, only root can do that :)
[22:58] <SVNDR> robbbie: was there a certain question i was supposed to answer, YES or NO too?
[22:58] <tash> so, guess I'm left with creating a cron to do it instead of apache doing it all in one whack huh?
[22:58] <robbbie> SVNDR: don't think so i answered yes to everything i believe
[22:58] <robbbie> SVNDR: pwmconfig right?
[22:59] <SVNDR> robbbie: same, as i was told to.. still cannot run it though :\   yep pwmconfig
[22:59] <_jason> tash: you can either use ACLs or you can use setgid on the parent directory (assuming you can make the parent directory's group the group you want the files to belong to)
[22:59] <nardev> glebihan, THANK YOU
[22:59] <Zeraphing> am I lucky enough to have someone here in the room who knows how to get dual monitors to work with 11.10?
[22:59] <meway> anyone know much about legal rights to swf games and sites?
[22:59] <glebihan> nardev, you're welcome
[23:00] <_jason> meway: not an ubuntu support question
[23:00] <tash> _jason: the parent directory is set to the group I want
[23:00] <SVNDR> robbbie: think i know, might have to apt-get install fancontrol first
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> meway: try #legal or #law   something like that
[23:00] <_jason> tash: well if you just need the files in that directory to have group X when they are created (not recursively into subdirectories), then just setgid the directory
[23:00] <dr3mro> hello , when will firefox 9.0 and thunderbird 9.0 hit the ubuntu repositories ?
[23:00] <tash> so, /data/home/server_archive would be the parent directory in my case _jason
[23:00] <Guest5020> I am using 10.04
[23:00] <Guest5020> am I missing much my not updating?
[23:00] <tash> I need recursive in that server_archive directory
[23:00] <Guest5020> I am a student
[23:00] <Guest5020> just learning linux
[23:01] <aeon-ltd> Guest5020: yes, you are missing out on experience :)
[23:01] <_jason> Guest5020: try a live cd of 11.10 and see.  If you like 10.04, nothing wrong with using it while it is still supported
[23:01] <Chipzzz> hiltonmagK: I see the problem... it isn't intended for the server edition & wants libraries needed by the live CD
[23:01] <SVNDR> Guest5020: your missing out on having a burning hot CPU if your on a laptop.. from my exsperience (right now) anyways
[23:01] <aeon-ltd> Guest5020: imo if you want to learn linux dive into something harder than standard guis
[23:01] <meerkats> is there any way I can get rid of all the tags of 500 pictures in a simple manner?
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: imagemagick should be able to
[23:02] <tash> _jason: so if I need /data/home/server_archive recursively set to blah:blahblah ... should I just set a cron to do that every so often or whatever?  Every time the script I'm talking about is invoked, new directories are created within server_archive with www-data:www-data
[23:02] <Guest5020> what linux distro is good for me then?
[23:02] <Guest5020> Arch?
[23:03] <jbendotnet> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu no longer has karmic - how do I update?
[23:03] <Teratogen> SLACKWARE UBER ALLES!
[23:03] <aeon-ltd> Guest5020: how much time do you have to spare?
[23:03] <_jason> tash: no, you should use ACLs
[23:03] <tash> dang, unfamilair with them ...
[23:03] <aeon-ltd> Guest5020: got an hour then try arch, it's a blank slate everything you want you have to get it yourself and configure it
[23:04] <SVNDR> /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed  got that result after running pwmconfig.. does that mean i dont have any fans.. or sensors? because i know i have a fan, i can hear it
[23:04] <SVNDR> wooops!!!
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> !eol | jbendotnet
[23:04] <SVNDR> did not mean the underlines
[23:04] <Guest5020> but is it ok for a n00b
[23:05] <Guest5020> I have been using ubuntu for 2 years
[23:05] <Guest5020> I am getting the need to learn more
[23:05] <_jason> tash: just add the "acl" option in fstab to the corresponding partition, then give « man setfacl » and « man getfacl » a read
[23:05] <jbendotnet> ActionParsnip: cheers
[23:05] <jbendotnet> ActionParsnip: and doh
[23:05] <tash> _jason: thank you.
[23:05] <tash> I'll give that a shot later.
[23:06] <_jason> tash: I'm not aware of a good non-man-page reference for them, but you want to read about default ACLs
[23:07] <tash> what's the basic idea of an ACL?
[23:07] <tash> I'm used to an ACL in Cisco, not linux :P
[23:07] <Zeraphing> no one have any thoughts on dual monitors with 11.10?
[23:08] <_jason> tash: I'm not familiar with ACL in cisco.  Basically ACLs let you have permissions for more than one group/user and also let you set default permissions that are applied to files
[23:10] <robbbie> SVNDR: fancontrol package take care of it?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> jbendotnet: personally I'd just clean install Oneiric or take a chance and install precise :)
[23:12] <umby213> 1;1;128;128;1;0x/close
[23:13] <Crell> Hi folks.  I'm trying to install the gnome networkmanager applet in KDE, to see if it works better than the KDE one.  I'm on Kubuntu 11.10.
[23:13] <Laurenceb__> hi
[23:13] <Crell> In previous versions the package was nm-applet.  That doesn't seem to exist anymore.
[23:13] <Crell> What package(s) do I need here?
[23:13] <Laurenceb__> im trying to run cadsoft eagle - pcb editor
[23:13] <Laurenceb__> i can run it from the command line
[23:14] <Laurenceb__> but if i try to run it by double clicking, or the launcher menu, it fails
[23:14] <Laurenceb__> any ideas why?
[23:14] <SVNDR> robbbie: yeah, it did, but the feedback didnt look good... /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed  got that result after running pwmconfig.. does that mean i dont have any fans.. or sensors? because i know i have a fan, i can hear it
[23:14] <freeroute> Hi, when I connect to a 802.11g AP, does Ubuntu use iwlist and iwconfig utilities? Because I have trouble connecting using those through CLI
[23:14] <Glitchd> Laurenceb__, right click it and select properties, see what command its issuing to launch the program
[23:15] <robbbie> SVNDR: lack of adequate sensors possibly? really not sure
[23:15] <Laurenceb__> just the path to the binary
[23:15] <mouzdalifa> salem
[23:15] <mouzdalifa> hi !
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> Crell: I suggest wicd instead, gnome network manager is the same app as the kde one but with a different frontend, so is testing nothing different
[23:15] <Glitchd> Laurenceb__, its the correct path?
[23:16] <Crell> ActionParsnip: Is that a gui, and does it handle vpns?
[23:16] <Laurenceb__> yes
[23:16] <Laurenceb__> i tried setting chmod a+x
[23:16] <mobius420> anyone know what could possibly be using port 443 out of the box in ubuntu?
[23:16] <Crell> In the past the kde network manager frontend was buggy with wifi and vpns, but the gnome one worked.  No idea why, but it did.
[23:16] <Glitchd> Laurenceb__, then check to make sure its marked as executable then
[23:16] <mobius420> https ?
[23:16] <mobius420> and if so how to stop it
[23:16] <SVNDR> robbbie: hoping so, well i downloaded a CPU throttle, but that doesnt seem to be helping eaither.. ive set it as low as possible, and it still heats up (no difference), turn it all the way to max, and the exact same thing
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> Crell: afaik, yes
[23:17] <edbian> mobius420, get off your browser
[23:17] <robbbie> SVNDR: i remember i had a dell d410, pentium M cpu and that thing just ran hot in ubuntu.. that was like 7.04 probably
[23:18] <mobius420> edbian,  say what?
[23:18] <Crell> Hm.
[23:18] <Glitchd> Laurenceb__, ?
[23:18]  * Crell downloads.
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> mobius420: try:  netstat -a | grep 443
[23:18] <edbian> mobius420, are you connected in your browser to any https sites?  then you're system will be using port 443 outgoing
[23:19] <SVNDR> robbbie: its doing my head in.. nothing i do is helping..  it gets that hot that it burns my skin to touch it
[23:19] <Laurenceb__> brb
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> Crell: you can always use CLI to setup VPN if it doesn't
[23:19] <robbbie> SVNDR: when was the last time you ran windows on that machine?
[23:19]  * Crell twitches.
[23:19] <SVNDR> robbbie: about 2 days ago
[23:20] <robbbie> SVNDR: and heat was a nonissue ?
[23:20] <SVNDR> robbbie: non-exsistant would be a better word lol
[23:20] <SVNDR> robbbie: cool as a cucumber
[23:20] <SVNDR> lol
[23:21] <owenll> Crell: apt-get install network-manager-gnome then apt-get remove network-manager-kde then make the gnome one launch at boot-up
[23:22] <Pyrox> hello
[23:22] <edbian> Pyrox, hi
[23:22] <Glitchd> hello
[23:22] <Crell> owenll: But network-manager-gnome isn't executable.  At least when I try to run it on the command line it doesn't show up in tab completion.
[23:23] <atvr> is there a windows games emulator on ubuntu
[23:23] <Pyrox> can someone please tell me why my syslinux does not work with encryption neither md5 nor sha1?, my syslinux.cfg http://pastebin.com/Tjs3QExP
[23:23] <Crell> owenll: Confirmed, "command not found".
[23:23] <Glitchd> atvr, playonlinux?
[23:23] <Pyrox> hi edbian
[23:24] <Glitchd> atvr, google "playonlinux"
[23:24] <Glitchd> atvr, should be the first result
[23:24] <edbian> Pyrox, md5 and sha1 are hashing algorithms, NOT encryption
[23:25] <Pyrox> edbian, , u r right, but as u can see in the file Id put the hash as u said
[23:25] <mobius420>  I am trying to start my xampp server but I get an error message saying there is another webserver with SSL running on my computer. I have checked for Apache and httpd, but I am stuck. Xampp seems to be hamstrung  by whatever the problem may be
[23:25] <mobius420> nmap on the local host shows https on port 443 open
[23:25] <Pyrox> in the pastebin,sorry
[23:26] <Pyrox> edbian, do u notice any mistake in the file?,it works correctly, and also with pass but not with hash
[23:26] <edbian> Pyrox, I'm not sure
[23:26] <edbian> mobius420, can you show us the output of ps -e             here: paste.ubuntu.com
[23:26] <Crell> ActionParsnip: How does one run wicd?  When I try, all I get is a message "rename failed".
[23:27] <mobius420> edbian,  sure one moment  :)
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Crell: if you reboot, it will start at boot
[23:27] <Crell> Oh.
[23:27] <Crell> Do I need to uninstall knetworkmanager first?  Or just kill it after reboot?
[23:27] <Pyrox> thnx anyway edbian ,np
[23:27]  * Crell doesn't want to rip it out yet if he doesn't have to.
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Crell: I would, just for neatness
[23:27] <edbian> Pyrox, sure :)
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> Crell: could reboot and test, if its bad then rip it out etc
[23:29] <mobius420> edbian,  here is the output   http://paste.ubuntu.com/793271/
[23:29] <mobius420> edbian,  PID 2342?
[23:29] <edbian> mobius420, reading...
[23:30] <xman> hi
[23:31] <Crell> ActionParsnip: Same error after reboot.
[23:32] <meerkats> where do I configure my mouse?
[23:32] <edbian> mobius420, I"m not sure what 2342 is, kill it
[23:32] <mobius420> edbian,  I killed pid 2342 and attempted to start my xampp server,  same result.
[23:33] <edbian> mobius420, I'm not sure what server it's seeing
[23:33] <edbian> mobius420, I don't see any listed here
[23:33] <mobius420> something is using port 443 and I do not know what
[23:33] <mobius420> edbian,  https
[23:33] <glebihan> mobius420, didn't you kill an apache process earlier ?
[23:33] <mobius420> glebihan,  mp
[23:33] <mobius420> glebihan,  no it werent me :P
[23:33] <edbian> mobius420, I know.  I don't see any process that I recognize as a server
[23:34] <mobius420> kk
[23:34] <mobius420> whatever it is, it's running out of the box
[23:34] <mobius420> a fresh install
[23:36] <jbendotnet> I was middway through do-release-upgrade and had a console malfunction - now when I try again I get "WARNING:root:estimate_kernel_size_in_boot() returned '0'?" and it just hangs
[23:36] <Crell> ActionParsnip: Any idea?
[23:37] <Chipzzz> jbendotnet: you may have to do a clean install
[23:39] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: really? BUGGER
[23:40] <Chipzzz> jbendotnet: sounds like you have data at risk...?
[23:41] <A-KO|lapt> We have an issue with 11.04 where we've got foobar running in Wine and whenever we change the stream in foobar it's changing the alsamixer settings. Does anyone else have any experience with this or know of a way to prevent that from happening?
[23:41] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: more a lack of time now to start from scratch
[23:42] <Chipzzz> jbendotnet: happily, that's better than the alternative... a clean install usually only takes 1/2 hour or so
[23:42] <Chipzzz> ... rebuilding data can take much longer
[23:42] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: how does that affect all my installed libs etc?
[23:42] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: setting up servers again
[23:43] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: there is data on here
[23:44] <Pyrox> the command sha1pass or md5pass works for someone?
[23:45] <Chipzzz> jbednotnet: it depends on how the machine is configured... best to make a copy of /home somewhere else if you can before you start
[23:46] <Chipzzz> ...server configs are more difficult to save
[23:46] <nickmoeck> Hi. I've been having a weird problem for quite some time, I just now have time to investigate it...   You can see it in the lowercase u's in this screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/M2ej1.png  Anyone know whats going on?
[23:47] <Chipzzz> nickmoeck: with luck, you may only have a corrupted font file
[23:48] <nickmoeck> Chipzzz: if it was a corrupted font file, it wouldn't still happen on a new install. And it only happens sometimes.
[23:48] <SilfenX> hello - is it possible to make ubuntu server provide indexing services for samba shares?
[23:48] <Chipzzz> nickmoeck: you are probably right... it's beginning to sound like a bad video card
[23:48] <user01> hi i am having problems with quicktime mov video playback from my canon camera . . . it is all green in VLC but windows VLC it works fine
[23:49] <Crell> ActionParsnip: Hm, OK, I have the wicd UI loading.  But when I try to connect to my access point it claims my password is bad.  I have confirmed I'm using the right one, however.
[23:49] <robbbie> 9/win 9
[23:49] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: once backed up, what's the process to install fresh?
[23:49] <user01> i get a gstreamer error if i try to play it in movieplayer
[23:50] <Chipzzz> jbendotnet: is everything in one disk partition?
[23:50] <user01> and if i try to play it in dragon player i can see top half of video and bottom half is all green
[23:50] <Chipzzz> (except swap, of course)
[23:51] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: it's a VM
[23:51] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: a VPS
[23:53] <Chipzzz> jbendotnet: you'll probably save the most data by installing from a server cd and before doing the actual install, rename /home, /etc, /opt, and /usr so that they won't get overwritten
[23:54] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: I have no access to a server cd
[23:54] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: I'm really annoyed with myself
[23:54] <jbendotnet> !
[23:55] <user01> is there another channel for codec issues?
[23:55] <Chipzzz> jbendotnet: it doesn't sound like the crash was your fault... sometimes life throws you these curves
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> user01: have you install w32codes or w64codecs  from medibuntu repo?
[23:56] <A-KO|lapt> We have an issue with 11.10 where we've got foobar running in Wine and whenever we change the stream/file in foobar it's changing the alsamixer settings. Does anyone else have any experience with this or know of a way to prevent that from happening?
[23:57] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: so, assuming I can't install from a CD, how do I trigger a fresh install?
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> A-KO|lapt: ask in #winehq too
[23:57] <SVNDR> Is there anyway i can partition more space to Ubuntu after ive installed it? or will i have to reinstall it again?
[23:57]  * jbendotnet remembers about google
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: how did you install it?
[23:57] <user01> ActionParsnip: yes they are
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: wubi, VM, normal install (not wubi)
[23:57] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: with Wubi..
[23:57] <Quantum_Ion> jbendotnet, How do you get an asterik next to your name
[23:57] <user01> ActionParsnip: but it plays mov quicktime files green
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: hmm, not sure, let me see
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> user01: let me look into that
[23:58] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: thanks mate
[23:58] <wolfric> http://pastebin.com/faH1uV8e
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> user01: I've seen this
[23:58] <Chipzzz> jbendotnet: is this a VM at a data center or on a machine at your location?
[23:58] <jbendotnet> Quantum_Ion: in irssi I do /me then say somethin
[23:58] <wolfric> any chance someone could take a look at this? http://pastebin.com/faH1uV8e libcurl coming out as the wrong option when i'm compiling from apt-get source transmission, dpkg -l shows the version is higher than required
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> user01: http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/fix-blue-tinted-video-in-ubuntu
[23:58] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: at a datacentre
[23:59] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: I have no direct access
[23:59]  * Quantum_Ion thinking about a nice hot slice of pizza
[23:59] <Quantum_Ion> jbendotnet, Okay thanks
[23:59] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: though have console access which is like connecting in there, not SSH to the box
[23:59] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: it's a bit basic the console, hence why I fucked up the upgrade