[01:08] <Quantos> Hey guys, running KUbuntu 20.4.1 - my game controller is messing up and I can't figure out how to reset it, how would I go about uninstalling it and reinstalling it?
[01:11] <Quantos> Calibrating it in the settings doesn't do a thing for it
[04:55] <fructose> I just ran an update that required restart and upon doing so there is no longer any audio or network devices listed in the KDE widgets. (They're still with lspci.) Any ideas on what happened?
[04:57] <fructose> (I also have no functioning network or sound on that system)
[07:01] <lordievader> Good morning
 Good morning
 What ... it's too hard even for a hum
[07:24] <Maik> @DAXR25 if you need help with Kubuntu just ask, Telegram is bridged to IRC and it's annoying to see the channel filled up with none related chatter.
[09:04] <alpha> hello. i have the kernel upgraded to 5.8.0.-34 on my Focal Fossa, but there's no linux-modules-extra-5.8.0-34-generic in the repository, so it hasn't been installed and now I have no netwok or audio if my system boots 5.8.0-34 which is default for now.
[09:09] <Maik> why didn't you wait until february when 20.04.2 comes out? The we'll get the HWE kernel, 5.8.0-XX all by itself iirc
[09:10] <Maik> instally a kernel on your own is always a risk imho
[09:10] <Maik> instally/installing
[09:11] <alpha> it just was in my daily updates. i didn't pick it manually.
[09:12] <Maik> fossa is on 5.4 not 5.8
[09:13] <alpha> i guess it should be, but it's not.
[09:14] <Maik> weird
[09:14] <Maik> i didn't get that kernel on 20.04.1 at all
[09:14] <guiverc> alpha, where do you get your updates from (what do you see with `sudo apt update` for your main repo)
[09:14] <Maik> 5.4.0-59-generic
[09:17] <Maik> alpha: best to enter grub, boot from a older kernel and remove the 5.8 one
[09:18] <alpha> the first entry is http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-security
[09:20] <guiverc> thank you alpha, if you `apt-cache policy linux-generic` does it show the same?
[09:23] <alpha> <IP_ADDRESS>.62 500 http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates/main amd64 Packages        500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-security/main amd64 Packages
[09:24] <guiverc> Thank you alpha, appreciated.   I've seen a number of users report this today, I'm trying to find cause. I agree with Maik, the current packages I see are still 5.4.  I'll use the 'ru.' to look up issues, so thank you.
[09:24] <alpha> Maik: yes, i'll do that. thank you.
[09:25] <guiverc> alpha,  I would change your mirror ASAP.  If you look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors you'll see mirror.yandex.ru is UNKNOWN as for status..
[09:26] <Maik> alpha: yw :)
[09:26] <guiverc> (ping ru.archive.ubuntu.com & you'll see who provides the country mirror ... I'd recommend switching to the main mirror & away from yandex).  My 2c/opinion
[09:27] <alpha> guiverc: you're welcome. thank you for your input.
[09:29] <guiverc> you're most welcome alpha
[09:39] <guiverc> Maik, fyi: ru.archive.ubuntu.com isn't where 5.8 comes from; I was wrong there.
[11:55] <deer_fellow> hi !!
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 @Maik, Ubuntu 20.04.1 has got 5.8
 I saw some messages in neon group also about netowork issue after kernel upgrade ? it is happening with everyone ?
[14:34] <Maik> @ri5h46h ubuntu 20.04.1 has 5.4, 20.10 has 5.8
[14:35] <Maik> 5.4.0-59-generic
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/Wr73733z/file_40478.jpg 🤔
[15:33] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
 @BluesKaj, hello 👋👋
[15:36] <BluesKaj> @ri5h46h,  hi
[15:39] <Maik> @ri5h46h i'm on Ubuntu MATE 20.04.1 and didn't get the kernel. Someone mentioned it was probably a mirror issue on which the kernel got pushed.
[15:45] <chencho9000> Hi there!!
[15:46] <Maik> chencho9000: hi
[15:46] <Maik> !ask | chencho9000
[15:46] <Maik> !discuss
[15:48] <chencho9000> I have a fresh kubuntu 20.04 and I'm having a problem with sound. I could't activate surround 5.1 from the system settings and had to activated manually in daemon.conf but the change is not saved and I have to repeat it every time I start the computer
 @Maik, oh yes this should be the reason
[15:50] <Maik> @ri5h46h yeah, because the HWE kernel will be released with the 20.04.2 pointrelease in february.
[15:52] <BluesKaj> chencho9000, do you have pavucontrol installed ? If so choose the advanxced drop down and check the multi channel options there
[15:53] <chencho9000> Actually works when I do pulseaudio -k but is annoying doing it all the time.
[15:54] <BluesKaj> if you check the optional boxes they should hold
 @Maik, will Ubuntu and flavours get 5.10 ? or will stay on 5.4 only ?
[15:55] <chencho9000> oh, I had the muted box on :- S
[15:56] <BluesKaj> heh
[15:57] <chencho9000> thanks!! kubuntu rulez :- D
 @Maik, yes some people in KDE Neon group also have reported issues that they got kernel 5.8 and after that they aren't having network cards visible
[16:04] <BluesKaj> 5.8 here, testing kubuntu 21.04...no network probs so far
[16:48] <mfrisch> Mic doesn't work.
[16:55] <Maik> BluesKaj: it's about some users getting a 5.8 kernel on 20.04.1 with regular updates while the HWE kernel should arrive in February. It's too early afaik.
[16:56] <BluesKaj> Maik, ok
[17:12] <user|6190> I just got an update for Kubuntu 20.04.  It was for kernel 5.8.  After rebooting, my system no longer boots.
[17:12] <user|6190> Was 5.8 expected?  Or was that a mistake?
 @user|6190, yes, Maik mentioned above that it may be a mirror issue
 @user|6190, I didn't see anyone complaining about system not booting, everyone's having network, sound problems
[17:15] <user|6190> For now, I am just letting you know.  I don't have time to work on this right now.
[17:16] <user|6190> I'm not that experienced.  Any suggestions on how to get back to 5.4?
[17:24] <Quantos> Hey guys, running KUbuntu 20.4.1 - my game controller is messing up and I can't figure out how to reset it, how would I go about uninstalling it and reinstalling it?
[17:24] <Quantos> Calibrating it in the settings doesn't do a thing for it
[18:02] <MikeAce> hello?
[18:02] <Vurtatoo> Hello, What is default text to speech in kmail ?
[18:04] <MikeAce> I have a question about the behavior of networking in KDE when you install LTS 20.04 and then install kubuntu-desktop. The network manager doesnt see any network adapters and when you try to use the updates it says it's offline even though there is an active internet connection in the system
[19:17] <silux> Hello
[19:17] <silux> Is anyone here?
[19:17] <silux> Is this a chat window?
[19:31] <Quantos> Hey guys, running KUbuntu 20.4.1 - my game controller is messing up and I can't figure out how to reset it, how would I go about uninstalling it and reinstalling it?
[19:31] <Quantos> Hey guys, running KUbuntu 20.4.1 - my game controller is messing up and I can't figure out how to reset it, how would I go about uninstalling it and reinstalling it?
[19:31] <Quantos> Calibrating it in the settings doesn't do a thing for it
[19:31] <Quantos> Sorry about the double post
[19:31] <Quantos> My bad


[00:53] <sacul> pleia2: I was just messin with you anyway.  I live in Nebraska now and am never on here anymore
[01:29] <Resistance> pleia2:  still around?
[01:31] <Sadin> yay new vps
[01:31] <Sadin> :D
[01:42] <pleia2> Resistance: nope (at a campus giving an ubuntu talk!), I'll be around tomorrow though
[01:42] <Resistance> ok
[01:42] <Resistance> pleia2:  someone on the irc ops list helped though
[01:42] <pleia2> :)
[01:42] <Resistance> pleia2:  was me trying to get this verty specific ubuntu wiki question off my privmsgs
[01:42] <Resistance> oh btw
[01:42] <Resistance> pleia2:  wiki main page, abuse
[01:42] <Resistance> its been vandalized i think
[01:43] <pleia2> ah, fun :\
[01:43]  * Resistance doesnt have powers  to view history or revisions
[01:43] <Resistance> :/
[01:43] <pleia2> yeah, I see Canonical IS is looking into it
[05:06] <andrew> morning
[05:06] <andrew> woah...
[05:06] <andrew> stupid clock isn't working well with ntp
[05:07] <andrew> all better now
[05:23] <InHisName1> morecheese: I think more what I did earlier was turn ON the pull downs which are missing from new style.  u  no,  "File Edit View History Bookmarks Tools Help"   thingy.   I looked in ubuntu's FireFox and nothing there that I remember. It was ver 8.  Same as the XP boxes.  Similar but somewhat diff.
[11:07] <rmg51> Morning
[11:09] <JonathanD> Morning.
[11:34] <rmg51> o/
[13:00] <teddy-dbear> morning
[13:13] <JonathanD> hey hey
[13:22] <MutantTurkey> chemistry final whooppeee
[13:59] <rmg51> kernel update whoope
[14:01] <morecheese> mo'nin
[14:06] <InHisName1> g'mornin' all
[14:08] <InHisName1> wow, 44 things to change for ubuntu
[14:12] <morecheese> InHisName1: yeah if you hide the menu bar, you can bring it back temporarily with the Alt button. that might be what you're referring to?
[14:22] <InHisName1> I didn't use the Alt button but that is what I did for my XP based firefox.  I'll have to try the alt button trick to see how that works too.
[14:27] <MutantTurkey> 3 hours and counting
[14:27] <MutantTurkey> also is it bad if I am listening to Blues Brothers all day now?
[14:36] <InHisName1> dunno, will u copy them, or just laugh and do your own style ?
[14:37] <InHisName1> Hopefully your style is way more legal than theirs.
[14:39] <MutantTurkey> just laugh
[14:39] <MutantTurkey> Its actually quite good
[14:39] <MutantTurkey> compared to a LOT of bad blues
[14:39] <MutantTurkey> more interesting musically
[17:15] <morecheese> when putting a resume link on a professional blog/landing page, is it proper to use "Résumé" or can i just use "Resume" to avoid seeming pretentious?
[17:27] <pleia2> I just use "Resume"
[18:05] <JonathanD> It should be R3$um3
[18:13]  * morecheese lifts an eyebrow.
[19:06]  * InHisName1 lowers his eyebrow, just to be different
[22:06] <Wonnenangshonat> Hello
[22:08] <Sadin> yay i got my own Vps from alien VPS running Ubuntu 11.04 :D
[22:08] <Sadin> going to use it to host my Ruby code in my Gitrepositories and my Ruby onrails applications
[22:10] <Wonnenangshonat> :)
[22:52] <InHisName> have fund with Ruby, Sadin
[22:52] <InHisName> s/d//
[22:52] <Sadin> i love Ruby :D
[22:52] <Wonnenangshonat> Hey all
[22:52] <Wonnenangshonat> all in PA?
[22:53] <InHisName> usually cept for one in CA and maybe a few other move aways.
[22:53] <Wonnenangshonat> what parts?
[22:53] <InHisName> Hey Wonnenangshonat r u PA too?
[22:56] <MutantTurkey> Wonnenangshonat
[22:56] <MutantTurkey> I hate german
[22:57] <MutantTurkey> <just mistook his name for a german word>
[22:57] <MutantTurkey> Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän
[22:57] <MutantTurkey> they don't understand on when to split words up :-)
[22:57] <MutantTurkey> Pa PA all the way
[22:57] <MutantTurkey> oh and my chem final went really well :-D
[23:00] <Wonnenangshonat> Its definitely not german word
[23:01] <Sadin> MutantTurkey u in HS? or college
[23:01] <MutantTurkey> college
[23:02] <Wonnenangshonat> 'Wonne' meaning 'pleasant'
[23:02] <Wonnenangshonat> and 'Nangshonat' meaning 'to breath'
[23:03] <Wonnenangshonat> pleasant-breathing
[23:03] <Wonnenangshonat> its a name.
[23:03] <Wonnenangshonat> an Algonquian one
[23:03] <MutantTurkey> oh see
[23:04] <Wonnenangshonat> These are native indian Algonquian  words
[23:04] <Wonnenangshonat> Anyways Im not far from Hanover
[23:04] <Sadin> anyone know of a good terminal based package i can get for unzipping files on my ubuntu server
[23:04] <Wonnenangshonat> We have a large operating farm here
[23:04] <MutantTurkey> Sadin: unzip...
[23:05] <MutantTurkey> and tar
[23:05] <MutantTurkey> ;)
[23:06] <Sadin> MutantTurkey well ivehad to use pzip on arch so i didnt know
[23:06] <MutantTurkey> unzip is good
[23:06] <MutantTurkey> it just unzips stuff
[23:06] <MutantTurkey> pretty true to its name
[23:06] <MutantTurkey> and tar should take care of the rest
[23:06] <MutantTurkey> also +10 for using arch
[23:07] <MutantTurkey> -10 for using ubuntu server
[23:07] <MutantTurkey> @karma... oh wait no more pennbot
[23:33] <InHisName> I still can't say Wonnenangshonat, but at least I understand the choice made.
[23:33] <Sadin> Wooo first rails application ! on my OWN vps :D ssh-keygen -t rsa -C<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:33] <Sadin> shoot wrong paste lol
[23:33] <Sadin> http://http://<IP_ADDRESS>:3000/
[23:34] <Sadin> ...
[23:34] <Sadin> double fail
[23:34] <Sadin> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:3000/
[23:34] <InHisName> your pix ?
[23:37] <Sadin> yeah InHisName
[23:37] <InHisName> Check out 2nd test of blog, Sadin
[23:37] <Sadin> its broken
[23:37] <Sadin> post ordering needs to be fixed
[23:37] <Sadin> and i need to also add in user authentication
[23:38] <InHisName> I was able to change (add stuff) it.
[23:38] <Sadin> yeah i know
[23:38] <Sadin> working on that now locally
[23:38] <Sadin> just pushed an old version with git to test my new rails setup on my vps is all But thanks for the heads up InHisName
[23:40] <MutantTurkey> to shower or not to shower..
[23:40] <MutantTurkey> decisions are so difficult
[23:41] <InHisName> depends, do you stink alot yet, MutantTurkey
[23:44] <Sadin> hes out of HS so i would suspect so
[23:44] <Sadin> im stilla junior i got stink on!
[23:44] <Sadin> lol
[23:45] <InHisName> If he waits a few more days, then his nasally insulted friends will give him  a free one.
[23:45] <Sadin> lol
[23:45] <MutantTurkey> Sadin: lol
[23:45] <MutantTurkey> no friends
[23:45] <Sadin> Foreverrrrr Alooooone lol
[23:49] <MutantTurkey> just kidding
[23:49] <MutantTurkey> I have friends
[23:49] <MutantTurkey> thats why I have to go shower
[23:49] <MutantTurkey> rock and hard place
[23:49] <MutantTurkey> you know


[08:06] <dholbach> good morning
[08:24] <popey> Good morning, happy new year!
[08:26] <dholbach> hey popey
[08:26] <dholbach> and the same to you
[08:44] <dpm> happy new year everyone :)
[08:54] <dholbach> dpm: and the same to you :)
[09:01] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:01] <davidcalle> dpm, popey, dholbach, good morning, happy new year o/
[09:01] <davidcalle> Hey czajkowski :)
[09:01] <popey> \o/
[09:02] <dholbach> davidcalle: all the best to you too!
[09:02] <dholbach> hey czajkowski
[09:02] <czajkowski> Happy New Year Folks!
[09:07] <dpm> morning czajkowski, davidcalle, popey, I hope you've had all a nice start of the year
[10:57]  * dholbach relocates to the office, brb
[12:18] <popey> \o/ lunch
[13:21] <mhall119> good morning everyone
[17:00] <dholbach> all right myy friends - see you all tomorrow!
[22:33] <mhall119> wxl: hggdh: can one of you check the ubuntu-membership-boards ML and let my emails from the CC through?
[22:34] <wxl> on it mhall119. saw it hit the queue but hadn't got to it yet. it's so monday here.
[22:35] <mhall119> thanks wxl
[22:35] <mhall119> wxl: not just a monday, the first day back to work for many people
[22:35] <mhall119> it's like a super-monday
[22:36] <wxl> indeed
[22:36] <wxl> well ti's release day for some of us :)
[23:12] <hggdh> seems wxl already got it
[23:12] <wxl> yep when i'm awake i'm quick hggdh :)
[23:12] <hggdh> heh


[03:31] <ScottK> The xserver-xorg-video-intel in proposed is verified to fix the problem is was uploaded for, so I'm going to unblock it.
[05:56] <tjaalton> ScottK: thanks!
[05:57] <ScottK> You're welcome.
[08:39] <stgraber> utlemming: hi
[08:39] <stgraber> utlemming: Can you give me a list of "products" to add to the tracker?
[15:53] <Kalidarn> hey guys, found a regression with the latest kernel 3.8.0-19 the e1000e network driver doesn't work anymore
[15:54] <Kalidarn> booting an older kernel 3.8.0-16 seems to make it work again
[15:54] <shadeslayer> there used to be a factoid for regression
[15:54]  * shadeslayer doesn't remember it off the top of his head
[15:54] <shadeslayer> !regression
[15:54] <ubot2> Factoid 'regression' not found
[15:54] <shadeslayer> hmmm ... nope
[15:55] <Kalidarn> weird thing is nothing in error logs
[15:56] <Kalidarn> but basically when you run 3.8.0-19 network manager will say it is "unplugged"
[15:56] <Kalidarn> tried removing the module and replacing it and bringing the interface up, then down and running dhclient on it, none of that works
[17:37] <ogra_> cjwatson, do you have any access to the cron logs on nusakan ? somehow my sync script doesnt send mail anymore and i cant really see why (not urgent to happen this weekend or so, but i dotn really want to fill crons logs in the long term)
[18:18] <Kalidarn> hmm
[18:18] <Kalidarn> shadeslayer: it seems to be working now :S and i think it booted into 3.8.0-19 which is really odd
[18:19] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[18:19] <Kalidarn> i did see an intermittent bug marked as not a bug
[18:19] <Kalidarn> on the redhat bugtracker
[18:50] <Kalidarn> ill keep an eye on it though!
[21:48] <cjwatson> ogra_: No more than you do
[21:58] <ogra_> cjwatson, ah, well, thanks ... i just found that suddenly the gmail spamfilter i route my mails through considered all nusakan mail as spam ...
[21:58] <ogra_> so it wasnt nusakan at all
[22:03] <ogra_> (not that i wasted half a day on it :P )
[22:05] <phillw> ogra_:  yeah, the spam filter can be a pain at times :)
[22:06] <ogra_> well, i would just have switched it off if i had even tought about that possibility ...
[22:07] <phillw> I do view my spam area from time to time, just to ensure it is not getting toooooo keen on things. robot emails are high on its' kill list :)
[22:08] <ogra_> i never use the gmail UI ... its my emergency fallback if i have no access to a normal machine while traveling etc ...
[22:10] <phillw> I have an 'educational' gmail account system. Having my cell/mobile phone send me the PIN number to it whilst I was in India on a training course was pretty cool! (I'd taken my list of the 10 time sign on once codes with me).


[12:34] <Lord_Athur> hi
[01:01] <Lord_Athur> mhz,
[01:01] <Lord_Athur> has you seen Edulinux?
[01:01] <mhz> Lord_Athur: no lo uso pero lo he visto
[01:01] <Lord_Athur> it's made for a chilean university
[01:02] <Lord_Athur> who is better?
[01:02] <Lord_Athur> edubuntu orf edulinux?
[01:05] <Lord_Athur> mhz,  edubuntu or edulinux?
[01:06] <mhz> better is not simple to define
[01:06] <Lord_Athur> :D
[01:06] <mhz> for me, Edubuntu!
[01:06] <Lord_Athur> but...
[01:06] <Lord_Athur> can you give me reasons?
[01:06] <mhz> not now, worry
[01:06] <mhz> sorry
[01:06] <Lord_Athur> ok
[01:07] <Lord_Athur> :D
[01:08] <Lord_Athur> I will have to download the CDs of Edulinux to test it
[01:08] <Lord_Athur> and decide
[12:05] <lucasvo> kjcole is on holiday?
[12:05] <lucasvo> !seen kjcole
[12:24] <lucasvo> http://pastebin.com/483986 < my nautilus isn't working anymore
[04:18] <zakame> hello mhz
[04:19] <mhz> zakame: hi
[05:13] <Petaris> Hello all
[06:49] <mhz> neurogeek: que tengas una muy feliz velada y un excelente ano
[06:49] <mhz> (en cas de no verte pronto)
[06:50] <neurogeek> mhz, Happy New Year to you and your family!!
[06:51] <mhz> neurogeek: thx
[07:25] <lucasvo> anybody know whats wrong: lucasvo@lama:~$ nautilus
[07:25] <lucasvo> seahorse nautilus module initialized
[07:25] <lucasvo> SWFDEC: ERROR: swfdec_font.c(158): tag_func_define_font_2: langcode 1
[07:25] <lucasvo> SWFDEC: ERROR: swfdec_font.c(158): tag_func_define_font_2: langcode 1
[07:25] <lucasvo> SWFDEC: ERROR: swfdec_font.c(158): tag_func_define_font_2: langcode 1
[07:25] <lucasvo> lucasvo@lama:~$ nautilus
[07:25] <lucasvo> ?
[08:42] <mhz> Anyone here from Sweden or arounds?
[08:42] <jouni__> hi from Finland
[08:44] <mhz> jouni__: this is VERY off topic but I want to give my grand mom a summary of swedish, finnish, etc coking recipes
[08:44] <mhz> ;)
[08:44] <mhz> any ideas where to get them from?
[08:46] <lucasvo> mhz: www.amazon.sw
[08:46] <mhz> hehehehe, lucasvo
[08:46] <mhz> I was hoping to make a book for her.
[08:46] <mhz> She doesnt read english
[08:47] <mhz> so, I was thinking of trasnlating some recipes to her and place some pictures
[08:47] <mhz> and print it
[08:47] <mhz> so downloading sounded lot better
[08:51] <jouni__> mhz do you or your grand mom read any finnish?
[08:52] <mhz> heheh, nope.
[08:53] <mhz> that's a detail :D
[08:53] <mhz> but finnish reading looks quite beautiful, imho
[08:53] <mhz> ;)
[08:53] <lucasvo> mhz: or you could cook it while writing, so you would know which one should be in there :D
[08:55] <mhz> lucasvo: LOL
[08:55] <mhz> lucasvo: happy new year!
[08:55] <lucasvo> mhz: why happy new year?
[08:57] <jouni__> I find some finish recipes. google swedish tv cooking programs etc.
[08:57] <mhz> lucasvo: just a friendly way to tell you "in case I dont' see yaou around tomorrow (UTC tricks), I wish you a happy  new year"
[08:57] <mhz> jouni__: okis, thx
[08:58] <lucasvo> http://pastebin.com/483986 < my nautilus isn't working anymore
[08:58] <lucasvo> anyone know what's wrong?
[08:58] <lucasvo> mhz: aha
[08:58] <lucasvo> mhz: same to you
[09:01] <mhz> lucasvo: I whish I help but the heaviest WM I use is XFCE
[09:01] <mhz> I have not used nautilus in the last 2 years or so
[09:01] <mhz> .oO(maybe I have never ued it ?)
[09:01] <mhz> sued
[09:01] <mhz> used
[09:01] <mhz> duh!
[09:15] <jouni__> lucasvo this is maybe related to your nautilus https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10973
[09:16] <jouni__> SWF (macromedia flash)
[09:17] <lucasvo> jouni__: hm, SWF, exactly...
[09:19] <jouni__> lucasvo I just googled it. Are you running edubuntu 5.10 desktop?
[09:19] <lucasvo> jouni__: no, dapper
[09:20] <jouni__> lucasvo maybe something is wrong with Package libswfdec0.3
[09:23] <jouni__> lucasvo could you remove or downgrade this package and try nautilus again
[09:37] <jouni__> mhz http://www.tv4.se/matdryck/bastamaten/ http://matochfritid.yle.fi/ http://www.arla.se/
[09:38] <lucasvo> jouni__: let's try
[09:39] <lucasvo> jouni__: wow it worked...
[09:39] <lucasvo> is it a known bug?
[09:40] <jouni__> no I don't think so Package libswfdec0.3 hasn't been changed much.
[09:41] <lucasvo> jouni__: but maybe nautilus
[09:49] <jouni__> lucasvo what version of nautilus you have?
[09:49] <lucasvo> jouni__: the latest from ubuntu dapper
[09:49] <lucasvo> let me check
[09:50] <lucasvo> Gnome nautilus 2.13.3
[09:54] <lucasvo> w 13
[09:56] <jouni__> I am now on ubuntu dapper. I try to install libswfdec0.3 and see if nautilus brokes
[09:57] <lucasvo> jouni__: it happened after I saved a swf file in my homedir


[12:42] <N3432> now it works in amarok but not in rhythymbox
[12:42] <jrib> k
[12:42] <jrib> right click on the file and go to "open with" and choose totem
[12:45] <N3432> it works now
[12:46] <jrib> great
[12:47] <N3432> is there a good theme manager
[12:47] <N3432> this is a fresh install and  i basically need to set everything up lol
[12:48] <N3432> why does rhythym box not work
[12:49] <jrib> close rhythmbox and open it again
[12:51] <N3432> i did
[12:52] <jrib> hmm it should work in rhythmbox if it worked in totem
[12:52] <N3432> is their a program in linux to change the wallpaper every x amount of minutes
[12:52] <N3432> i have so many questions lol.
[12:52] <jrib> wallpaper-tray
[12:53] <N3432> yea just found that.
[12:53] <N3432> i need a music player with a database
[12:53] <N3432> but i dont like amarok.
[12:54] <jrib> have you installed "ubuntu-restricted-extras"?
[12:54] <jrib> That should get you everything you need
[12:56] <N3432> yes
[12:57] <jrib> what does 'apt-cache policy gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly' return?
[01:01] <N3432> can rhythym box use  xinempeg
[01:01] <jrib> no
[01:01] <jrib> it's gstreamer afaik
[01:03] <N3432> is it the best database music player for windows?
[01:03] <N3432> linux**
[01:04] <jrib> "best" is subjective
[01:04] <N3432> whats a good one?
[01:05] <jrib> I like using mpd
[01:05] <jrib> but rhythmbox works fine too
[01:05] <N3432> whats mpd
[01:05] <jrib> !info mpd
[01:05] <ubotu> mpd: Music Player Daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.2-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 127 kB, installed size 404 kB
[01:05] <N3432> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly:
[01:05] <N3432>   Installed: 0.10.5-0ub
[01:05] <N3432> does it have a gui ?
[01:05] <jrib> it has several frontends
[01:06] <jrib> N3432: close rhythmbox
[01:06] <jrib> then run 'ps -ef | grep rhythmbox'
[01:06] <N3432> now it works..
[01:06] <jrib> oh
[01:07] <N3432> what do the front ends look like?
[01:08] <jrib> sonata is a nice gui one
[01:08] <jrib> there are all kinds, google for "music player dameon", they should have a list
[01:25] <N3432> how do i build from source again ?
[01:28] <N3432> jrib, ping.
[01:47] <jrib> hi
[01:48] <jrib> N3432: what are you building?
[11:39] <ahmadsaifan> hello
[11:39] <nalioth> hi
[11:39] <ahmadsaifan> Can you help me
[11:40] <ahmadsaifan> who is here that can help me?


[11:04] <cmaloney> Morning
[11:11] <wolfger> morning
[11:12] <wolfger> mrgoodcat: how prolific is ubuntu-security-announce?
[11:13] <wolfger> rick_h_: zsh? :-p psh!
[11:14] <rick_h_> :P
[11:14] <cmaloney> psh -aw
[11:19] <wolfger> Ugh. Speaking of psh made me log in to Perl Monks for the first time in... forever. Couldn't remember my password, and now I remember why I quit going there. They are still e-mailing plain-text passwords when you forget them.
[11:19] <cmaloney> Yeah that place is like a museum
[11:20] <wolfger> Such a wonderful site full of wonderful people, and they can't bother to have a modicum of security.
[11:21] <cmaloney> They do, they just choose to undermine it. :)
[11:49] <wolfger> also: "psh -aw" would be a better pun if the -a flag was valid. :-p
[12:17] <cmaloney> Of course it would. :)
[12:34] <mrgoodcat> wolfger: like 1 or 2 a day
[12:40] <wolfger> I don't think having a bot toss out 1 or 2 security announcements a day would be a bad thing. Might even occasionally have some value. :-)
[12:49] <mrgoodcat> can't remember how to get rss from bookie.io
[12:50] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: docs.bookie.io shows the "welcome to nginx" page
[12:50] <jrwren_> ps -haw # works!
[12:57] <mrgoodcat> jrwren_: works for what?
[13:07] <wolfger> fail
[13:08] <wolfger> mrgoodcat: he's attempting to resuscitate cmaloney's psh -aw pun
[13:14] <mrgoodcat> fail what?
[13:14] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: Get some coffee. :)
[13:14] <mrgoodcat> i must need coffee....
[13:15] <mrgoodcat> i still don't know what the fail was...
[13:15] <cmaloney> wolfger mentioned psh as an alternative to bash
[13:15] <cmaloney> I said "psh -aw" (as in pshaw)
[13:16] <cmaloney> jrwren_ mentioned that ps -haw is valid
[13:16] <cmaloney> and now we have spent way too long on a silly joke. :)
[13:16] <mrgoodcat> yea i'm going to get coffee
[13:16] <wolfger> which I determined to be a fail, because he switched commands :-D
[13:17] <wolfger> too long, not funny enough, and on top of it all: had to be explained. :-p
[13:17] <cmaloney> https://bookie.io/craig/redirect/273994ed5e425a
[13:18] <cmaloney> https://www.jimmyjohns.com/datasecurityincident/ <- geez
[13:18] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/GMr3E7 - Data Security Incident
[13:19] <cmaloney> We can't get to chip and pin soon enough
[13:20] <wolfger> chip and pin?
[13:22] <cmaloney> yeah, the USA is the only one that uses magnetic stripe credit cards
[13:22] <cmaloney> which contain all of the information for the card on the card itself
[13:22] <cmaloney> chip and pin is like two-factor
[13:22] <cmaloney> (in a sense. Totally over-simplifying it)
[13:23] <mrgoodcat> yea. would be cool if your pin actually was the decryption key or something
[13:23] <cmaloney> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_and_PIN
[13:23] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/h7n9X - Chip and PIN - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[13:28] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[13:28] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - Paranoico by proyecto hombre
[13:28] <cmaloney> Black Sabbath's Paranoid, in Spanish
[13:29] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: If you need some metal language immersion LMK. Lots of CC-licensed metal in Spanish
[13:30] <wolfger> "Since 2008, VISA has been running pilot projects using the Emue card,[3] where the generated number replaces the code printed on the back of standard cards." Sign me up!
[13:31] <wolfger> Then about the only thing you have to worry about is actual physical card theft.
[13:34] <jrwren_> Is the chip in pin and chip a samrt card?
[13:34] <jrwren_> ya know the smart cards from 15yrs ago? They have super lower power low clock ARM cpus in them!
[13:38] <brousch_> cmaloney: Looks like they missed my jimmy johns
[13:45] <mrgoodcat> srsly... internet connected forks? http://www.hapi.com/product/hapifork
[13:45] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/p8o0Zi - HAPI.com : Enjoy Your Food with HAPIfork by Jacques Lépine
[13:45] <mrgoodcat> brousch_: they missed mine too :)
[13:57] <mrgoodcat> some good bug names recently
[13:57] <mrgoodcat> not sure if i like "heartbleed" or "shellshock" better
[14:47]  * jrwren shakes fist at comcast.
[15:46] <brousch_> Was someone here involved with KLUG?
[15:51] <cmaloney> The kalamazoo lug?
[15:51] <cmaloney> Not sure
[15:54] <mrgoodcat> i used to live in kzoo
[15:57] <brousch_> Maybe I'm thinking of mrgoodcat
[15:57] <mrgoodcat> :)
[16:13] <cmaloney> http://blog.intronis.com/bid/red-hat-declares-client-server-computing-era-over
[16:13] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/on1lt1 - Red Hat Declares Client-Server Computing Era Over
[16:13] <cmaloney> I find this a rather dumb statement
[16:14] <rick_h_> my web browser would like to disagree with that headline :P
[16:14] <cmaloney> "cloud" is still a server.
[16:16] <jrwren> cmaloney: yup. is n-server. its a very stupid statement. sell your RHAT shares. the CEO is crazy!
[16:17] <jrwren> also, why did they change from RHAT to RHT???
[16:17] <rick_h_> "Yo kids, I heard cloud was cool...we can do it!"
 That's the old "client-server" model.
[16:28] <cmaloney> Here's our new Open-Stack cloud model, running RHEL
[16:28] <cmaloney> Instead of paying $120,000 a year you only pay us $12,000 a month.
[16:28] <cmaloney> er, $10,000 a month
[16:29] <cmaloney> SUCH A BARGAIN!
[16:35] <jrwren> remember, redhat owns ceph and jboss, so they need to spin themselves as a company that does those things, not just rhel
[16:45] <greg-g> here's a better headline:
[16:45] <greg-g> modernfarmer.com/2014/09/drinking-excessive-amounts-beer-will-make-kids-smarter-scientists-come-close-saying/
[16:45] <greg-g> http://modernfarmer.com/2014/09/drinking-excessive-amounts-beer-will-make-kids-smarter-scientists-come-close-saying/
[16:45] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/0tE2v0 - 403 Forbidden
[16:45] <greg-g> eh?
[16:46] <jrwren> WHAT?!?!
[16:47] <cmaloney> I'm gonna driunk me some IQ points tonight!
[16:47] <cmaloney> or is that IQ PINTS!
[16:47] <cmaloney> YEEEEAAAAAHHHHh!
[16:48] <jrwren> hahahahah
[16:54] <wolfger> Hey, it worked for me.... (for some value of "excessive")
[17:39] <mrgoodcat> cmaloney: i lied
[17:40] <mrgoodcat> my lit class is pre-civil war, not pre-colonial
[17:40] <rick_h_> oh, well that's a bit better
[17:40] <rick_h_> I was wondering how my literature there was pre-colonizatoin
[17:41] <mrgoodcat> lol
[17:41] <mrgoodcat> not much
[17:41] <mrgoodcat> lots of art tho
[17:41] <rick_h_>  /my/much
[17:41] <rick_h_> yea, true enough
[17:41] <mrgoodcat> a lot of the stories depicted are pre-colonial
[17:45] <cmaloney> That's only about 100 years of lit
[18:24] <jrwren> pre-civil war US lit? there can't be that much of it?
[18:24] <jrwren> or wait... Samuel Clemens is in that time period eh?
[18:39] <greg-g> yeah
[18:40] <greg-g> hence his satire on slavery
[18:45] <jrwren> yeah, duh, wtf was I thinking. :)
[18:45] <cmaloney> jrwren: Apparently not enough to keep from snubbing one of the US literary greats. :)
[18:46] <jrwren> He was even on ST:TNG!!!
[18:46] <cmaloney> many times
[18:46] <jrwren> heheheh
[18:48]  * greg-g grew up in Hannibal, MO
[18:49] <greg-g> over fourth of july weekend is "National Tom Sawyer Days" with fence painting, frog jumping, etc. Including a contest to crown the official Tom and Becky (7th graders) who become our town's ambassadors. The ones from my grade went to Japan for a week.
[18:51] <cmaloney> Nice
[18:51] <greg-g> the funny thing is, Samuel himself thought Huck Finn was a better book than Tom Sawyer
[18:52] <greg-g> (I agree, we had to read them both in middle school)
[18:52] <cmaloney> It was a more complicated story
[18:52] <cmaloney> similar to The Hobbit / Lord of the Rings
[18:52]  * greg-g nods
[19:18] <jrwren> i had to read them. I don't remember much about them.
[19:19] <jrwren> Huck was the 2nd one right? where Tom isn't around much and Huck runs away?
[19:19] <jrwren> I remember that one more.
[19:19] <jrwren> I couldn't tell you much of anything about Tom Sawyer
[19:24] <greg-g> yep
[19:28] <jrwren> something about getting kids to whitewash fences for free by convincing them its fun and collecting payment from the fence owner?
[19:33] <greg-g> being told to white wash your fence, but convincing friends that it's way fun and getting them to pay YOU to have the priviledge
[19:38] <jrwren> ha!


[01:16] <trinikrono> hggdh ping
[02:00] <hggdh> trinikrono: pong
[02:07] <trinikrono> hggdh i wanted to speak to you about the mentorship programme if you have a minute
[10:21]  * benonsoftware for some reason forgot the bug day :(
[13:04] <hggdh> trinikrono: I am back :-)
[13:05] <benonsoftware> Hi
[13:06] <hggdh> hello benonsoftware
[13:07] <benonsoftware> I completly forgot about yestordays Bug Day :(
[13:09] <hggdh> you can still go and get them
[13:11] <benonsoftware> :)
[14:04] <Yvonne1> hi there
[14:06] <Yvonne1> Someone here who can help me upgrading ubuntu 9.04 to nwest?
[14:36] <hggdh> Yvonne1: please try #ubuntu, or #ubuntu-beginners -- this channel is for triaging help
[14:37] <Yvonne1> if the computer wont upgrade nmw.. i thought it was a bug then..
[15:04] <bdmurray> pedro_: have you noticed that you need to escape () in the Traceback part of a pattern but not in OriginalTitle ?
[15:12] <pedro_> bdmurray, yeah , why is that?
[15:12] <bdmurray> pedro_: probably a bug in apport
[15:13] <pedro_> bdmurray, I also need to escape in things like AssertionMessage
[15:13] <pedro_> i think that in the only part where that is not needed is on *Title
[15:13] <bdmurray> iirc OriginalTitle was added later so maybe that code path is different
[15:13] <bdmurray> I'll look into it
[15:15] <pedro_> awesome , thanks
[15:39] <bdmurray> pedro_: bug 845730
[15:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 845730 in apport (Ubuntu) "TItle and OriginalTitle field of bugpatterns behaves oddly (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/845730
[15:40] <bdmurray> pedro_: Since both work I think the right thing to do is escape them in the *Title as not having to escape them is wrong and might mean the pattern won't work
[15:45] <pedro_> bdmurray, yes, will start to escape those in new patterns and update the others
[22:56] <bdmurray> bug 844035 is kind of funny
[22:56] <bdmurray> dash is not *the* dash


[05:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2087 Failed to build (vivid/webbrowser-app, zesty/webbrowser-app). Successfully built (xenial/webbrowser-app)
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Cimi, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2050 Preparing packages
[10:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Cimi, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2050 Successfully built
[10:27] <oSoMoN> trainguards: could you please kick off a rebuild of https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/2087/+build/11067136 ?
[10:28] <oSoMoN> trainguards: and I’m seeing build failures on zesty because of unmet dependencies on apparmor and apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, is that a known issue? The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:28] <oSoMoN>  sbuild-build-depends-webbrowser-app-dummy : Depends: apparmor but it is not going to be installed
[10:28] <oSoMoN>                                              Depends: apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu (>= 1.3.13) but it is not going to be installed
[10:29] <oSoMoN> e.g. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/290606682/buildlog_ubuntu-zesty-amd64.webbrowser-app_0.23+17.04.20161024-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[10:31] <oSoMoN> maybe a temporary failure that would go away if retried now?
[10:32] <oSoMoN> jibel, sil2100: we discussed last week about overriding the automated signoff status for https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1919 , can we go ahead?
[10:52] <oSoMoN> it’s pretty quiet today, is everyone down with ubuflu?
[10:53] <popey> maybe some took swap days
[11:13] <mzanetti> oSoMoN, for our team, one down with ubuflu, one still stuck in AMS as all the flights got cancelled
[11:13] <mzanetti> and yeah, 4 with swap days
[11:13] <oSoMoN> wow, what happened in AMS?
[11:13] <mzanetti> sorry, that stays in AMS :P
[11:13] <oSoMoN> :)
[11:13] <mzanetti> nah, weather conditions
[11:14] <oSoMoN> man, I’m glad we flew back on Friday evening
[11:14] <mzanetti> yep :)
[11:19] <popey> yeah, that didn't go smooth for us :)
[11:28] <mzanetti> sil2100, hey, can you help with that? ERROR This ticket must be migrated to zesty+xenial+vivid before it can be built.
[11:28] <mzanetti> or do I need to create a new one?
[11:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2022 QA Signoff: Required
[11:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2022 This ticket must be migrated to zesty+xenial+vivid before it can be built
[11:29] <mzanetti> ignore that...
[11:30] <mzanetti> realized I could just change the checkbox
[11:30] <mzanetti> erm, combobox
[11:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2022 Preparing packages
[11:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1993 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/ubuntu-settings-components). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, vivid/unity8, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components, xenial/unity8, zesty/unity8)
[12:37] <dobey> trainguards: can someone please delete unity-scope-snappy from overlay ppa?
[12:37] <sil2100> dobey: on it
[12:52] <sil2100> mzanetti: which ticket?
[12:53] <mzanetti> sil2100, nvm... it was about 2022 but I saw I could just change the config and that works
[12:53] <mzanetti> sil2100, you might want to drop yakkety packages from the ppa though?
[12:53] <sil2100> oSoMoN: I guess it's up to QA to do, I'm +1 on that since we only want to sign-off the vivid part there - but jibel is off today, so you might want to poke davmor2 instead
[12:54] <oSoMoN> sil2100, ok, thanks
[12:54] <sil2100> mzanetti: wait, wasn't that silo ready for QA?
[12:54] <mzanetti> sil2100, yes, but davmor2 found an issue, I fixed and rebuilt
[12:54] <sil2100> Are you rebuilding it now?
[12:54] <sil2100> Oh, ok
[12:54] <oSoMoN> davmor2, if you’re around, can we move silo 1919 to ready for QA ?
[12:54] <sil2100> Let me remove the yakkety packages then - you rebuilt all of them?
[12:54] <mzanetti> sil2100, yes
[12:54] <mzanetti> sil2100, zeisty still building, but the others built
[12:55] <davmor2> oSoMoN: just reading the backlog is this the one with the issue on apparmor?
[12:56] <davmor2> oSoMoN: give me a few and then I'll have a proper look at it if it is as described I'll move it into the queue
[12:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2071 Preparing packages
[13:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2089 xenial/ubuntu-themes: Failed to commit https://code.launchpad.net/~malaperle/ubuntu-themes/ubuntu-themes. You must supply either a Commit Message on your MP, or a custom debian/changelog entry
[13:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2022 Successfully built
[13:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2089 Ready to build
[13:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2071 Dependency wait
[13:19] <dobey> sil2100: hmm, i wonder why it's still saying depwait in bileto :-/
[13:35] <oSoMoN> davmor2, no, that’s just https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1919 that’s ready for QA review, but autopkgtests failed because we’re only targetting vivid+overlay and xenial+overlay, there are no yakkety/zesty packages in the ppa (that’s ok because that version is already in yakkety and zesty)
[13:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1919 QA Signoff: Ready
[13:39] <davmor2> oSoMoN: that's done should show in the queue shortly
[13:39] <oSoMoN> davmor2, cheers mate
[13:40] <sil2100> dobey: which ticket is it?
[13:41] <dobey> sil2100: 2071
[13:42] <sil2100> dobey: hm, interesting, maybe because it's not available in any of the series in the archives
[13:42] <sil2100> dobey: so it treats all failures as real failures
[13:43] <sil2100> dobey: since it assumes you should have it building for all architectures - the only snappy scope in the archives is for wily
[13:43] <dobey> sil2100: oh, right; forgot about that
[13:43] <sil2100> And Bileto only checks the binaries for the given source
[13:43] <sil2100> We can just maybe try ignoring it somehow, not sure if Bileto will let us ;)
[13:43] <dobey> yeah i think it will
[13:45] <davmor2> oSoMoN: hmmm won't this need a rebuild if we land https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1885
[13:47] <dobey> well i'll set it to lander approved and see what happens :)
[13:47] <oSoMoN> davmor2, w00t? no this shouldn’t land, 1919 is superseding 1885
[13:48] <oSoMoN> davmor2, can you remove 1885 from the QA queue?
[13:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2088 Pending binary packages
[13:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2087 Preparing packages
[13:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2090 Successfully built
[13:53] <davmor2> oSoMoN: on it
[14:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2087 Failed to build (xenial/webbrowser-app). Pending binary packages (vivid/webbrowser-app, zesty/webbrowser-app)
[14:09] <oSoMoN> trainguards: can https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/2087/+build/11071070 be retried, please?
[14:09] <tedg> oSoMoN: Retried
[14:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2088 Successfully built
[14:10] <oSoMoN> thanks tedg
[14:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Cimi, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2050 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (vivid/unity8, xenial/unity8)
[14:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2087 Pending binary packages (xenial/webbrowser-app). Successfully built (vivid/webbrowser-app, zesty/webbrowser-app)
[14:31]  * dobey wonders how long britney takes right now
[14:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2087 Successfully built
[14:55] <dobey> sil2100: hmm, i guess bileto is just skipping because of the depwait?
[15:19] <dobey> err, s/bileto/britney/
[15:19] <dobey> meh
[15:20] <dobey> maybe i should chagne debian/control to only build on those then
[15:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- alan_g, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2068 Abandoning ticket
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- alan_g, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2067 Abandoning ticket
[15:44] <robru> dobey: looks like britney currently runs in 15 minute intervals
[15:44] <robru> dobey: and yeah it only considers tickets with "success" in the status
[15:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2090 Publishing packages
[15:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2089 Preparing packages
[15:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2088 Publishing packages
[15:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2089 xenial/ubuntu-themes: Failed to add changelog message
[15:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- alan_g, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2091 Successfully built
[16:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2088 Proposed pocket
[16:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2089 Ready to build
[16:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2090 UNAPPROVED queue
[16:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2089 Preparing packages
[16:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2071 Preparing packages
[17:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2089 Pending binary packages
[17:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2071 Pending binary packages
[17:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1675 Abandoning ticket
[17:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 QA Signoff: Approved
[17:21] <dobey> robru: wow, 15min is a miracle!
[17:22] <robru> dobey: yeah, looks like it's only processing one ticket
[17:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2071 Successfully built
[17:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2089 Successfully built
[17:45] <dobey> robru: can i get this xenial-overlay-only silo set to N/A for QA? it's an initial landing to get stuff moving and some initial testing, but is really not ready for QA level of scrutiny yet, and will only ever land in xenial overlay for a few months
[17:47] <robru> dobey: which one?
[17:48] <dobey> robru: 2071
[17:49] <robru> dobey: ok done
[17:49] <dobey> robru: ok, thanks!
[17:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2071 QA Signoff: N/A
[17:49] <robru> dobey: you're welcome
[17:51] <dobey> now i just have to find a coredev who isn't away today to do the packaging ack i guess
[17:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2087 QA Signoff: Ready
[18:14] <davmor2> sil2100: you about still?
[18:25] <dobey> err, britney is complaining about ppc64el for some reason
[18:26] <dobey> robru: do i need to just abandon and rebuild to clear things up?
[18:26] <robru> dobey: wait
[18:27] <robru> dobey: I deleted the old packages, should sort itself out on next run.
[18:27] <dobey> ok
[18:42] <dobey> robru: hmm, next next run? seems it didn't with this one
[18:44] <robru> dobey: maybe one more run? it's possible I deleted it too late in the run for it to notice
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Preparing packages
[18:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 xenial/dialer-app: debdiff failed: see log for details
[18:56] <tedg> Hmm, any core-devs around today that could hit publish on this? https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710
[18:56] <tedg> kenvandine: are you around? ^
[18:56] <dobey> mterry is on vacation
[18:56]  * kenvandine looks
[18:56] <dobey> oh ken is around, yay
[18:57] <kenvandine> Ready to build (zesty/libindicator).
[18:57] <kenvandine> ??
[18:57] <tedg> kenvandine: Landed with u7 earlier in zesty, needs to be backported to vivid and xenial
[18:58] <dobey> well the binaries could have been copied in
[18:58] <tedg> I believe that's what pitti did... not sure, but they have his UID on them.
[18:58] <dobey> he only uploaded for xenial/vivid
[18:59] <dobey> copying zesty binaries in too would make the message go away
[19:00] <dobey> tedg: if you copy the zesty binaries from ubuntu archive into that silo PPA, the "ready to build" will go away
[19:01] <tedg> Sure, but the message doesn't do anything...
[19:02] <dobey> i guess
[19:02] <robru> tedg: dobey: kenvandine: publication will block on that, you should copy the package in
[19:02] <dobey> or that ^^
[19:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, zesty/telepathy-ofono, zesty/telephony-service). Pending binary packages (vivid/dialer-app, xenial/dialer-app, zesty/dialer-app). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/history-service, xenial/messaging-app, xenial/telephony-service, zesty/history-service, zes
[19:05] <kenvandine> tedg, so i should copy libindicator 16.10.0+16.10.20160913-0ubuntu1 from zesty into the ppa?
[19:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Publishing packages
[19:06] <dobey> someone who has permissions should apparently, yes
[19:08] <kenvandine> robru, dobey, tedg: i copied the package
[19:09] <dobey> kenvandine: after next bileto run then, things should clear up
[19:09] <kenvandine> bileto says it's publishing already
[19:09] <dobey> kenvandine: can you publish https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2071 too please?
[19:09] <tedg> kenvandine: Thanks!
[19:09] <kenvandine> but i didn't hit publish
[19:10] <robru> pitti hit publish
[19:10] <kenvandine> dobey, has an archive admin reviewed it?
[19:11] <dobey> kenvandine: it's only going into the overlay ppa
[19:11] <kenvandine> ah, indeed
[19:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Publish failed: Ready to build
[19:12] <dobey> heh
[19:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2071 Publishing packages
[19:13] <tedg> Hmm, don't see any errors. robru, do you see anything here? https://bileto.ubuntu.com/log/1710/publish/1/
[19:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2071 Publish failed: Bad merges
[19:14] <dobey> sigh
[19:14] <dobey> tedg: it's because pitti hit publish before the zesty binaries were copied in
[19:14] <robru> tedg: "Publish failed: Ready to build" as I predicted. the package needs to be copied in (and wait for binaries to finish publishing)
[19:15] <kenvandine> dobey, your branch wasn't approved!
[19:15] <dobey> oh
[19:16] <dobey> and nobody on my team is around today but tedg
[19:17] <dobey> tedg: care to rubber stamp https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-api-team/unity-scope-snappy/+git/unity-scope-snappy/+merge/308383 please? :)
[19:18] <tedg> dobey: Done
[19:19] <dobey> kenvandine: can you publish again please? it's approved now :)
[19:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2071 Publishing packages
[19:19] <dobey> hah, too fast
[19:20] <tedg> kenvandine: Okay, the zesty binaries are published in the PPA, can you re-publish mine too :-)
[19:21] <kenvandine> dobey, done
[19:21] <kenvandine> tedg, publishing
[19:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, zesty/telepathy-ofono, zesty/telephony-service). Successfully built (vivid/dialer-app, vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/dialer-app, xenial/history-service, xenial/messaging-app, xenial/telephony-service, zesty/dialer-app, zesty/history-service, zesty/messaging-app)
[19:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Publishing packages
[19:24] <tedg> kenvandine: Thanks!
[19:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Publish failed: Diff missing
[19:28] <dobey> yeah thanks kenvandine
[19:28] <robru> kenvandine: diff then publish again
[19:30] <dobey> hmm, it's too bad i can't copy and paste from my x11 host machine into terminal under unity8 in kvm
[19:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Generating diffs
[19:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2071 Release pocket
[19:34] <dobey> oh sweet, i can ssh though. so some win
[19:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 /: Failed to upload diffs. Please try regenerating diffs
[19:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2081 QA Signoff: Required
[19:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2081 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/qmenumodel). Successfully built (vivid/qmenumodel, vivid/unity8, xenial/qmenumodel, xenial/unity8, zesty/unity8)
[19:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Generating diffs
[19:48] <sil2100> davmor2: just got back recently
[19:48] <sil2100> davmor2: what's up?
[19:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Release pocket (zesty/libindicator). Successfully built (vivid/indicator-application, vivid/indicator-bluetooth, vivid/indicator-datetime, vivid/indicator-display, vivid/indicator-keyboard, vivid/indicator-location, vivid/indicator-messages, vivid/indicator-network, vivid/indicator-power, vivid/indicator-session, vivid/indicator-sound, vivid/indicator-transfer, vivid/libi
[19:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 /: Failed to upload diffs. Please try regenerating diffs
[20:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Generating diffs
[20:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 /: Failed to upload diffs. Please try regenerating diffs
[20:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Release pocket (zesty/libindicator). Successfully built (vivid/indicator-application, vivid/indicator-bluetooth, vivid/indicator-datetime, vivid/indicator-display, vivid/indicator-keyboard, vivid/indicator-location, vivid/indicator-messages, vivid/indicator-network, vivid/indicator-power, vivid/indicator-session, vivid/indicator-sound, vivid/indicator-transfer, vivid/libi
[20:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2092 Proposed pocket
[20:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Publishing packages
[20:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Publish failed: Diff missing (zesty/libindicator). Packaging diff requires ACK (vivid/indicator-application, vivid/indicator-bluetooth, vivid/indicator-datetime, vivid/indicator-display, vivid/indicator-keyboard, vivid/indicator-location, vivid/indicator-messages, vivid/indicator-network, vivid/indicator-power, vivid/indicator-session, vivid/indicator-sound, vivid/indicat
[20:39] <tedg> robru: It seems like publish doesn't like the null diff?
[20:40] <robru> tedg: no the diff is *missing*. For some reason the three attempts at diffing all failed to upload to swift. I have no idea why
[20:43] <tedg> robru: Is there any way we can ignore it?
[20:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2022 QA Signoff: Ready
[20:44] <robru> tedg: no it's hardcoded in that it can't publish without a diff, even if it's an empty diff it needs to exist
[20:44] <pitti> o/
[20:44] <pitti> robru: hello
[20:45] <robru> pitti: ok welcome. So the ticket is missing the diff for zesty, there have been three attempts to generate diffs but they all fail to upload to swift
[20:45] <pitti> robru: well, there *is* no zesty/libindicator diff
[20:45] <pitti> the current zesty versino was backported to x and v to the silo
[20:46] <robru> pitti: yes, and that should be represented by an empty file in swift
[20:47] <robru> pitti: bileto looks in swift and finds no such file, so it says "a ha! You can't publish this if you don't know what the diff looks like! Generate diffs doofus!"
[20:47] <pitti> rihgt, the previous attempt failed, so I tried again as status asked me to
[20:47] <robru> pitti: yes i also attempted to diff and it failed to upload, i don't know what's wrong with swift
[20:48] <pitti> do zero-byte files work in general?
[20:49] <robru> pitti: yes
[20:49] <robru> pitti: hmmm actually it checks the cached list of filenames from the bileto ticket itself, it doesn't query swift for that info
[20:50] <pitti> seems too much of a coincidence that it would randomly fail several times on that special caes
[20:50] <pitti> robru: would it help to copy the zesty dsc to the silo PPA, so that the diff would not actually fail, but work and produce a zero-byte diff?
[20:50] <robru> pitti: yes I've escalated to webop
[20:50] <robru> s
[20:51] <pitti> publishing would still not work as it would not be a new version
[20:51] <robru> pitti: no, it succeeds in generating the diffs, what fails is uploading the diffs to swift
[20:51] <pitti> or I upload a Standards-Version bump to the pPA
[20:51] <pitti> ok, if you are sure about that
[20:52] <robru> pitti: no. once the diff exists in swift it will harmlessly detect the version matches and not publish the version. it's just getting caught up because it doesn't know that the diff is null, it's blocking because it's worried that there might be some huge, unknown diff
[20:52] <robru> pitti: https://bileto.ubuntu.com/log/1710/diff/latest/ read the error message, it is completely clear. "2016-10-24 20:06:31,355 INFO Diffed zesty/libindicator." with no errors. then later the error is in uploading.
[20:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2092 Failed to build (zesty/dbusada). Proposed pocket (zesty/dbus)
[20:53] <pitti> ok
[20:53] <pitti> robru: oh, so it actually failed on vivid_indicator-sound_packaging_changes.diff
[20:54] <robru> pitti: yes, in uploading. the diff is generated correctly
[20:55] <robru> pitti: checking the three different logs it fails in different places so I guess it's some transient infra issues in uploading
[20:55] <robru> pitti: tedg: kenvandine: I'll try diffing again I guess, hopefully it works.
[20:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Generating diffs
[20:56]  * pitti keeps hands off
[20:59] <robru> if it fails again I will use curl to manually hack the ticket to make it go, which in this case is ok because we know the diff is empty, but generally this check is correct as we would never want to publish an unknown package...
[21:02] <pitti> I think it did fail again
[21:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 /: Failed to upload diffs. Please try regenerating diffs
[21:03] <robru> blah
[21:03] <robru> ok hold on, I'll poke it
[21:10] <pitti> robru: thanks; calling it a day now, I'll check again tomorrow
[21:10] <robru> pitti: ok, I'll get ken to publish shortly
[21:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Release pocket (zesty/libindicator). Successfully built (vivid/indicator-application, vivid/indicator-bluetooth, vivid/indicator-datetime, vivid/indicator-display, vivid/indicator-keyboard, vivid/indicator-location, vivid/indicator-messages, vivid/indicator-network, vivid/indicator-power, vivid/indicator-session, vivid/indicator-sound, vivid/indicator-transfer, vivid/libi
[21:21] <robru> awwwww
[21:21] <robru> missed ken by 4 minutes.
[21:21] <robru> pitti: if you're still around by chance could you please publish?
[21:22]  * sil2100 is still around
[21:22] <sil2100> Should I ACK and publish something?
[21:22] <sil2100> Ah, the old silo I suppose?
[21:22] <robru> sil2100: yeah, 1710 please
[21:23]  * sil2100 blindly ACKs publishes
[21:23] <sil2100> Oh, got an error 'this ticket is busy'
[21:23] <robru> sil2100: it's ok, already acked by pitti
[21:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Generating diffs
[21:23] <robru> sil2100: ah I was trying diffs again, I cancelled it, please publish now
[21:24] <sil2100> Ok, it's working now it seems
[21:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Publishing packages
[21:30] <sil2100> I go EOD now, see you tomorrow
[21:30] <sil2100> o/
[21:30] <robru> sil2100: no
[21:30] <sil2100> ...or maybe not
[21:30] <robru> sil2100: can you run it again? it asploded
[21:30] <sil2100> Oh, hah
[21:31] <sil2100> Wow, first time I see that nuclear sign next to a run
[21:31] <sil2100> Re-running
[21:31] <robru> sil2100: yeah nuclear means unhandled exception. it used to be a black X but I changed it recently
[21:32] <sil2100> I'll stick around for a bit, just in case
[21:32] <robru> sil2100: thanks
[21:33] <robru> sil2100: fortunately it should skip all the ones it already published, but there's still more it can explode over. I should really make it handle that more gracefully...
[21:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Release pocket (vivid/indicator-application, vivid/indicator-bluetooth, vivid/indicator-datetime, vivid/indicator-display, vivid/indicator-keyboard, vivid/indicator-location, vivid/indicator-messages, vivid/indicator-network, vivid/indicator-power, vivid/indicator-session, vivid/indicator-sound, vivid/indicator-transfer, vivid/libindicator, xenial/indicator-application, x
[21:37] <sil2100> So far so good I guess?
[21:38] <sil2100> Ok, I see 'Succeeded'
[21:39] <robru> sil2100: ok looks good, thanks!
[21:43] <robru> here's hoping for a quick migration so that PPA can be deleted ;-)
[21:43] <robru> brb
[21:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2080 Destination version missing from changelog (zesty/indicator-power). Failed to build (xenial/unity8, zesty/unity8). Successfully built (vivid/indicator-power, vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/unity-api, vivid/unity8, xenial/indicator-power, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-api, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api)
[21:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Proposed pocket (zesty/indicator-application, zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-display, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/indicator-location, zesty/indicator-messages, zesty/indicator-network, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/indicator-transfer). Release pocket (vivid/indicator-application, vivi
[22:07] <sil2100> Oh, indeed, 'the final silo' ;)
[22:20] <sil2100> o/
[23:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Proposed pocket (zesty/indicator-network, zesty/indicator-session). Release pocket (vivid/indicator-application, vivid/indicator-bluetooth, vivid/indicator-datetime, vivid/indicator-display, vivid/indicator-keyboard, vivid/indicator-location, vivid/indicator-messages, vivid/indicator-network, vivid/indicator-power, vivid/indicator-session, vivid/indicator-sound, vivid/ind


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[00:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> greenfly, you do need to control the users path to an extent too, so they cant diy $binname
[00:54] <Ahmuck> on the F4 option menu, what is a minimal virutal machine?  exactly what it states?
[02:34] <hotmonkeyluv> how do I refresh my IP?
[02:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> meaning?
[02:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> your a client to a dhcp server?
[02:35] <hotmonkeyluv> well, I have 4 ethernet ports, and only one ethernet cable
[02:35] <hotmonkeyluv> and for some reason i can't connect to the internets
[02:36] <hotmonkeyluv> and when I run ifconfig -a, none of the devices have any IP addresses
[02:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> sure your cable is ok?
[02:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> dhclient is the command, fwiw
[02:37] <hotmonkeyluv> thanks, I'll check the cable, but i'm sure it's ok.
[02:38] <hotmonkeyluv> sweeeeeeeeet
[02:38] <hotmonkeyluv> thank you Kamping_Kaiser
[02:38] <hotmonkeyluv> the dhclient worked
[02:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> hotmonkeyluv, np. enjoy
[02:48] <hotmonkeyluv> dang it, now I can't install ssh-server
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> because ...?
[02:49] <hotmonkeyluv> it says that openssh-server has no installation candidate
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> try running apt-get update again
[02:50] <hotmonkeyluv> ok
[02:50] <hotmonkeyluv> nope
[03:06] <AirstrikeIvanov> hi everyone
[03:06] <AirstrikeIvanov> how do i make my DNS server installation download a new named.conf file? the one that is supposed to be in there is missing
[03:19] <Ahmuck> any suggestions for a linux iso to "burn in" a new system?
[04:04] <Ahmuck> i just tested "virtual machine" option on ubuntu server in kubuntu 8.04 with virtual box 2.0.4.x and upon installation and then reboot, it errored out
[08:14] <kinection> what does "basic ubuntu server" consist of?
[08:18] <andol> kinection: tasksel --task-packages server
[08:25] <kinection> that only works if i already have it installed ;)
[09:07] <domas> bah, was running tar at 100MB/s from network stream
[09:07] <domas> and puff, kernel regression, suddenly started spending 100% of time in memcpy_c
[09:07] <domas> <3 linux
[09:08] <domas> http://p.defau.lt/?AHX3RRCU0uq_gDD069p9aA
[09:09] <domas> seems like tar is braindead when it comes to memory management %)
[12:29] <domas> huh, gutsy opcontrol has syntax errors
[12:57] <vlad73> Hi! I've installed ubuntu server 8.10. But when I try #apt-get build-deb php5, this error - Не Can't open file: /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_intrepid-security_main_source_Sources
[12:57] <vlad73> What can i do to appear this file?
[13:17] <kraut> moin
[13:23] <vlad73> Hi! I've installed ubuntu server 8.10. But when I try #apt-get build-deb php5, this error -  Can't open file: /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_intrepid-security_main_source_Sources
[13:23] <vlad73> What can i do to appear this file?
[15:45] <Frozen-Solid> I'm trying to setup multiple IPs on my ubuntu server edition 8.04 box.  I have them setup in the /etc/network/interfaces file, but when i restart networking it tells me "SIOCADDRT: No such process" and then fails to bring up the aliases
[15:48] <Frozen-Solid> the aliases are setup as "auto eth0:0" through eth0:6, each has an address, netmask, and gateway set, and should be set with the right options.  the default interface seems to work fine
[16:15] <Frozen-S1lid> crisis averted: apparently our pix sucks and didn't refresh it's mac to ip database when we switched servers
[16:15] <Frozen-S1lid> thanks anyways though!
[17:00] <tonyyarusso> I didn't even know you could do that...
[17:03] <Deeps> messy way of doing it
[17:03] <Deeps> better off using ip addr add
[17:04] <Deeps> and adding multiple ips to a single interface, instead of creating a tonne of virtual interfaces
[17:17] <tonyyarusso> Deeps: Seriously?  "ip addr add"?  That's the same syntax as Cisco IOS.
[17:18] <J-_> What directories should I backup on my LAMP server? /var/www for sure, anything else? I know I have to do a mysql dump as well.
[17:31] <tonyyarusso> J-_: /etc.
[17:33] <tonyyarusso> J-_: /home (even if it's not _really_ being used, I usually have some random thing in there.), /opt if you use it
[17:33] <J-_> cool, yeah I don't really use /home, or /opt
[17:34] <tonyyarusso> J-_: /var/log, /var/mail
[17:35] <tonyyarusso> J-_: I also like to do /boot, for when you screw up your initrd or whatever.
[17:35] <tonyyarusso> I think that pretty well covers it.
[17:35] <tonyyarusso> And with that, I need to go to work.
[17:58] <Yippee_> Is it necessary to set up web server with ssl if you want mail on the Web. Mail server is configured with ssl. And should mail server ssl certificate approved?
[17:59] <freaky_t> is there any tool to upgrade the server-edition to intrepid (from hardy)?
[18:01] <freaky_t> or do i just need to edit the entries in sources.list ?
[18:27] <arooni> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[18:27] <arooni> 	LANGUAGE = (unset),
[18:27] <arooni> 	LC_ALL = (unset),
[18:27] <arooni> 	LANG = "en_CA.UTF-8"
[18:27] <arooni>     are supported and installed on your system.
[18:27] <arooni> how would i fix that on ubuntu hardy server?
[18:34] <freaky_t> can i allready safely upgrade to intrepid?
[19:44] <arooni> how would i fix an unset locales issue on ubuntu hardy server?
[21:42] <arooni> nevermind got it working :P (had to restart apache)
[21:46] <nvti> hooray
[21:47] <arooni> i got postfix installed;  and also got postfixadmin installed.... what else must i do to be able to send emails?
[23:23] <tonyyarusso> arooni: Configure it.
[23:24] <arooni> thanks tonyyarusso how would i dot hat?
[23:35] <tonyyarusso> arooni: Most of it is done in /etc/postfix/main.cf, but for details you'll have to read some documentation.  YOu'll find a fair amount in the Ubuntu Server guide, or if you prefer print pick up "The Book Of Postfix".
[23:37]  * ScottK mumbles "or hire a consultant to read it for you".
[23:38] <tonyyarusso> arooni: Once you've done a bit of that and have some background to work with, specific problems you still have can probably be dealt with better in #postfix (a bit more active than here).
[23:39] <tonyyarusso> ScottK: Thanks for your reply about mail components btw - super helpful.
[23:42] <ScottK> tonyyarusso: You're welcome.
[23:59] <jdub> zul: got back to you re: php tzdata in hardon
[23:59] <jdub> zul: sorry, hadn't noticed the bug got love :)


[00:00] <maclin> ypwong, the 20130626.3 image is quite diff with 20130626.2, maybe the packages have been updated. I am syncing.
[00:07] <maclin> ypwong，我已经测了i386的镜像，基本上都更新过来了，等会儿我们再针对bug list进行更详细的测试
[06:50] <smartboyhw> Hey maclin maclin ypwong
[06:51] <ypwong> smartboyhw, yes man
[06:52] <maclin> hi, smartboyhw
[07:23] <maclin> ypwong,我们这边测试64位的镜像时发现在台式机上正常，但是在jiaowen的一台HP笔记本上出现了很奇怪的现象，启动菜单变成grub菜单的样式，而且有一项：“OEM install (for manufacturers)”
[07:24] <smartboyhw> maclin, did jiaowenli pressed any button at the initial boot screen? (i.e. the human icon = keyboard screen)
[07:34] <maclin> no,boot with no button pressed.  Does that have effect with boot option?
[07:34] <maclin> 这个机器进入live模式后，dash中直接不能切换到fcitx，注销一下重新登录后就可以了
[07:37] <maclin> smartboyhw,  OEM install是一个隐藏的安装选项吗？什么情况下会出现？
[07:39] <smartboyhw> maclin, OEM install, it's for OEMs. What happens is that OEMs install Ubuntu to the computer and they can install whatever they want. Then they use a special program to shut down.
[07:39] <smartboyhw> The computer is shipped to user
[07:39] <smartboyhw> And the user feels it's a completely new experience!
[07:45] <maclin> This is the first time I see the menu. Why does it appear now?
[07:45] <smartboyhw> maclin, that's weird though. It shouldn't only appear on zhaowenli's computer.
[07:45] <smartboyhw> ypwong, how did the council-membership spec go?
[07:47] <ypwong> i remember i saw oem install before, but i don't do installation that much so can't remember how it comes up
[07:47] <ypwong> smartboyhw, under planning
[07:48] <ypwong> maclin, that screen always appear?
[07:48] <ypwong> 是每次启动都出现？
[07:48] <maclin> yes
[07:49] <ypwong> maclin, 能进系统吗
[07:52] <maclin> 可以进Live模式试用，无法安装
[07:56] <ypwong> maclin, 好奇怪呢
[07:56] <shi> 有人再啊
[07:56] <ypwong> @_@
[07:56] <maclin> 是的，这个机器比较诡异
[07:57] <shi> qylin下个版本什么计划啊
[07:57] <shi> 开发什么特色软件？
[07:57] <ypwong> 这个得要 jack 老大回答
[07:58]  * ypwong 去开个会
[07:58] <shi> 你们是开发者吗
[07:58] <shi> 计划应该出来了吧
[07:59] <shi> 好期待啊
[07:59] <maclin> shi,你对哪方面的开发感兴趣？
[07:59] <shi> 我喜欢qt
[07:59] <shi> 才++
[07:59] <shi> c++
[08:00] <shi> 你们
[08:00] <shi> 呢
[08:01] <shi> 我很想知道qylin能不能打通和腾讯的关系，搞个qq啊，qq太烦人了
[10:33] <smartboyhw> ypwong, you guys made the Alpha1 release notes yet?
[10:33] <smartboyhw> And also, it's time for you guys to test upgrades.
[10:33] <smartboyhw> :p
[10:33] <smartboyhw> maclin, do you guys want upgrade testcases?
[10:45] <ypwong> smartboyhw, oh yeah, we should need upgrade testcase
[10:45] <smartboyhw> ypwong, you want me to add?
[10:45] <smartboyhw> maclin, ^
[10:45] <ypwong> smartboyhw, perhaps we can add later
[10:46] <smartboyhw> ypwong, for Alpha 2 perhaps:)
[10:46] <ypwong> yeah
[10:46] <ypwong> no hurry
[10:47] <ypwong> not sure about release notes, when jackyu online can ask him
[10:48] <ypwong> just don't want to duplicate the effort if he has already done that
[11:02] <maclin1> smartboyhw,  yes, we need upgrade testcase.
[11:02] <smartboyhw> maclin1, sure. I will add it AFTER alpha 1 releases.
[11:04] <maclin1> great, we will add and update  testcases for our feature applicantions.
[11:06] <smartboyhw> maclin1, great:)
[11:06] <maclin1> what do you think about the current testcases in UbuntuKylin?
[11:09] <maclin1> I want to say that how to improve them, just as ypwong said  we don't duplicate the effort:)
[11:14] <smartboyhw> maclin1, if you have spare, have a chat with balloons on #ubuntu-quality. He's Canonical's Ubuntu Community Quality Coordinator, and he is much better than me:)
[13:11] <maclin> smartboyhw, that is good, i will firstly arrange our problems and plans. then choose a time to discuss with him and you:)
[13:16] <smartboyhw> maclin, :)
[14:01] <smartboyhw> ypwong, I think I found it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuKylin/1310-alpha-1-ReleaseNote
[14:39] <JackYu> smartboyhw, did ubuntu release team announce the Alpha 1?
[14:40] <smartboyhw> JackYu, not yet!!!!!!
[14:40] <JackYu> why?
[14:40] <smartboyhw> Kubuntu hasn't finished testing, and Lubuntu is clearly having some issues with some iamges
[14:40] <JackYu> wow...
[14:41] <JackYu> UK is ready for this release. But we still have much work to do:)
[14:41] <JackYu> for the next A1/B1....
[14:41] <smartboyhw> JackYu, yeah sure.
[14:41] <smartboyhw> JackYu, next A2/B1 you mean?
[14:41] <JackYu> Alpha2, Beta1, BetaFinal, Release....


[08:40] <dholbach> good morning
[09:54] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:54] <czajkowski> this holiday lark is very good for getting your house in order 2 days of no work :D I can see through all the paper work!
[10:03]  * dholbach relocates to the office, brb
[15:09] <balloons_> ping jose
[15:09] <jose> balloons_: pong
[15:10] <balloons_> jose, happy friday! So, I've been curious if you've managed to send off requests to the flavors or not.
[15:10] <jose> balloons_: yep!
[15:10] <balloons_> jose, excellent! I hope we get a good response
[15:10] <jose> even talked to Pasi (Xubuntu) yesterday and said they were interested
[15:11] <balloons_> awesome. I hope to see some tasks from xubuntu
[15:11] <balloons_> I was chattering with them earlier about something unrelated
[15:14] <balloons_> jose, any other flavors express interest?
[15:14] <jose> balloons_: I heard something from Kubuntu but haven't heard back more, I'll re-ask Scarlett
[15:16] <jose> actually, just sent the pm
[15:16] <balloons_> Ok, I think we're up to a total of 8 mentors, minus you me and popey
[15:16] <balloons_> at least, those who have registered. I know there are more who have not
[15:22] <jose> gotcha
[16:11] <jose> dholbach: should be on the calendar now
[16:12] <dholbach> jose, awesome - thanks!
[16:14] <jose> np
[16:50] <dholbach> all right my friends - have a great weekend everyone! see you on Monday! :-)


[03:05] <Capum321> hello, installed samba and smb.conf doesn't have security = user anywhere, neither as commented line
[03:06] <Capum321> is this correct?
[03:08] <tsimonq2> Capum321: #ubuntu is probably the best place for that :)
[03:09] <Capum321> thanks
[08:21] <kagani> wow.
[08:22] <kagani> that hellstorm documentary is horrifying.
[17:11] <tbnbuddha> hi. i am trying to setup a laptop with lubuntu but i run into so much problems. But i guess maybe my laptop is damaged. For example my wifi isn't working (driver issue i read about it) so i use a smartphone with tethering. but after around 20 seconds the connection always shut down. when i restart tethering on my phone i have another 20 seconds. and so one. what can be the reason for this?
[17:12] <wxl> tbnbuddha: stupid question, but is the phone using wifi?
[17:12] <tbnbuddha> yes
[17:12] <wxl> tbnbuddha: does turning off the wifi radio on the phone help it at all?
[17:13] <tbnbuddha> mmh then i have no internet connection at all. it might sound stupid on you, but i just use my smartphone with wifi
[17:13] <wxl> tbnbuddha: the problem may be that wifi is fickle :(
[17:13] <tbnbuddha> is the wifi and the tethering related to each other?
[17:14] <tbnbuddha> i am in my flat and i almost never have connection problems when i use my smartphone
[17:15] <wxl> admittedly, i wouldn't expect the problem to happen every 20 seconds
[17:15] <tbnbuddha> it is also everytime the same amount of time until the connection is interrupted
[17:15] <tbnbuddha> it is almost excactly the same time period
[17:15] <wxl> have you looked at logs to see if there may be something clearly happening?
[17:15] <tbnbuddha> logs on the laptop?
[17:15] <wxl> yeah and if not there on the phone
[17:15] <wxl> but those are likely much harder to get to
[17:16] <wxl>  /var/log/syslog or /var/log/dmesg would be where i'd start
[17:16] <tbnbuddha> mmh on the phone i don't even know where to find logs. but ok i can take a look into the logs on my linux on this laptop
[17:16] <wxl> what you can do is "wattch" both logs while you start the tethering and then wait 20 seconds
[17:16] <tbnbuddha> i take a look
[17:16] <wxl> tail -f /var/log/{syslog,dmesg}
[17:16] <wxl> do that in a terminal
[17:16] <wxl> then hit enter a couple times to make a clear break
[17:17] <wxl> then start the tethering connection up
[17:19] <tbnbuddha> oh yeah there are some error messages. i try to paste them
[17:19] <wxl> !pastebin | tbnbuddha
[17:23] <jirido_> Lubuntu rules!
[17:24] <tbnbuddha> i installed that pastebinit now. did i just need to use "| pastebinit" at the end or how it is done?
[17:25] <wxl> tbnbuddha: correct. so you could concievably do the `tail -f /var/log/{syslog,dmesg} | pastebinit` and it SHOULD work but you may have to kill the process rather than ctrl-c'ing. not sure.
[17:25] <wxl> tbnbuddha: or you could just select relevant lines and put them in a normal paste
[17:25] <tbnbuddha> where do i get the url and how could i stop the process?
[17:25] <LuMint> what's this pastebinit? where do I find the script?
[17:26] <LuMint> atm i use gist-paste
[17:26] <tbnbuddha> apt-get install pastebinit
[17:26] <LuMint> ok
[17:26] <LuMint> thx
[17:26] <tbnbuddha> where do i get the url from to post? and how can i end the process?
[17:27] <tbnbuddha> ctrl c might not be the solution, or?
[17:27] <wxl> tbnbuddha: in a seperate terminal just do `killall tail` and the former terminal should spit out the url
[17:28] <tbnbuddha> ah ok will try that
[17:28] <tbnbuddha> and the url?
[17:28] <wxl> tbnbuddha: see the latter clause of my last post :)
[17:29] <tbnbuddha> ah sorry. my fault
[17:29] <wxl> np
[17:29] <wxl> i'm doing about 100 things at once so you're lucky i got it right at all XD
[17:29] <LuMint> wxl: ctrl+c won't work?
[17:29] <wxl> LuMint: it may. it also may issue an exit code that kills the stream. just not sure.
[17:31] <tbnbuddha> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23280857/
[17:31] <tbnbuddha> the problem was in the end the connection is interrupted
[17:32] <tbnbuddha> so i have to start tethering again that the paste is transferred with working connection
[17:33] <wxl> at what point did the connection actually stop?
[17:33] <tbnbuddha> i need to take a look. i started tethering. then i run the command.
[17:33] <tbnbuddha> anywhere in the middle it should have stopped
[17:33] <wxl> i'd do it the other way around and watch the time closely
[17:33] <tbnbuddha> then i run tethering again to stop the pasteit command
[17:34] <tbnbuddha> i think 19:30:42 should it be
[17:35] <tbnbuddha> there are some error messages that sound like that
[17:36] <tbnbuddha> i think more and more my laptop is damaged. it also does not shutdown or restart correctly.
[17:36] <wxl> it seems that ModemManager has a serial time out and that's what causes the changes
[17:36] <tbnbuddha> this is a fresh 16.04 lubuntu installation
[17:36] <tbnbuddha> what could be the cause of that?
[17:36] <wxl> although NetworkManager also core dumps, which is strange, too
[17:37] <wxl> i am honestly not sure. i'd have to dig around and see if this is a common problem
[17:37] <tbnbuddha> wxl i appreciate your help very much. it is so good how you help people
[17:38] <wxl> what i will say is that we share this same infrastructure with Ubuntu. i think if you might have better luck getting to the cause of this problem if you open your search to a wider audience. would you mind asking at #ubuntu and see if they have any insight?
[17:38] <tbnbuddha> i get more and more the feeling it is a serious hardware problem
[17:38] <wxl> i wouldn't necessarily jump to that conclusion. it's possible, but not certain
[17:39] <tbnbuddha> sure i will try that. i really need that laptop and could not afford to buy a new one right now :(
[17:39] <wxl> you might try doing a memory test on it. you can do that at the grub start up menu (hold down shift when booting)
[17:39] <tbnbuddha> ok this is a good idea
[17:39] <wxl> tbnbuddha: those serial time outs start at line 116
[17:40] <wxl> tbnbuddha: NetworkManager core dump occurs on line 149
[17:41] <tbnbuddha> mmh ok. i try to test the memory first then i ask in the ubuntu channel
[17:41] <tbnbuddha> thx a lot for your help so far
[17:41] <wxl> np
[17:41] <wxl> sorry i couldn't be of more help
[17:42] <tbnbuddha> you already are a huge help
[17:42] <wxl> good luck my friend ;)
[17:42] <tbnbuddha> thank you :)
[17:44] <tbnbuddha> mmh i don't have a grub menu when booting. so holding down shift has no affect. or did i something wrong? i just have installed lubuntu freshly. no other os on it
[17:49] <tbnbuddha> ah ESC is the key. seems they changed that
[17:54] <tbnbuddha> there is no memtest entry in my grub menu. can i start it from the grub command line?
[17:54] <tbnbuddha> ubuntu website shows no command for that in the command list for grub
[17:56] <tbnbuddha> seems i need to install it via apt-get first
[17:57] <tbnbuddha> mmh already installed :(
[17:59] <wxl> tbnbuddha: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[17:59] <bkm> hello, folks. linux-generic kernel dependency problem? Is this a known issue? installing the latest alternate lubuntu installer from a thumbdrive.
[18:00] <wxl> bkm: please elaborate
[18:01] <bkm> wxl: on install it says cannot install kernel, see /var/log/syslog or console 4. those show that the kernel has dependency problems
[18:01] <wxl> bkm: what specfic problem?
[18:02] <bkm> wxl: meaning you want the messages on console 4?
[18:02] <wxl> bkm: yep
[18:06] <bkm> wxl: linux-generic depends on linux-image-generic (/ <IP_ADDRESS>.33); however: Package linux-image-generic is not configured yet.
[18:06] <bkm> the / should be an =
[18:07] <wxl> bkm: that's very strange. is this the daily version?
[18:07] <wxl> !info linux-image-generic yakkety
[18:07] <wxl> based on the above, i'd suspect not
[18:07] <wxl> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[18:07] <wxl> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[18:08] <bkm> don't think so, i may have the *.iso on my desktop
[18:08] <wxl> you don't know what version it is?
[18:08] <bkm> wxl: lubuntu-16.04.1-alternate-i386.iso
[18:09] <wxl> bkm: did you check the hashes?
[18:09] <bkm> no
[18:09] <wxl> bkm: you should start with that. otherwise you may have download and/or copying issues.
[18:10] <bkm> wxl: thx.
[18:10] <wxl> bkm: as you can see by looking at the release notes there are no known bugs https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu
[18:10] <wxl> no known RELATED bugs i mean
[18:10] <wxl> bkm: also looking at the above linux-image-generic for that version should be <IP_ADDRESS>.40 so that's strange too
[18:11] <bkm> wxl: yeah, noticed
[18:20] <swift110> hey guys
[18:20] <wxl> swift110: ok
[21:45] <bkm> wxl: similar error with lubuntu-16.10-beta2-alternate-i386.iso
[21:45] <wxl> bkm: and you checked the hashes?
[21:46] <wxl> bkm: i question you because i've installed all of these, as have others, and we have not run into such problems.
[21:46] <bkm> wxl: i used the zsync option which claimed to have checked the hashes
[21:46] <wxl> bkm: these are also fundamental problems. everyone in ubuntu would likely have them, too.
[21:46] <wxl> bkm: what install media did you use?
[21:47] <bkm> i dd'ed the iso to a thumb drive.
[21:47] <wxl> and did you check the hashes on the drive?
[21:47] <bkm> no
[21:47] <wxl> well then i'd advise you do that
[21:47] <wxl> copying can create problems, too
[21:48] <bkm> wxl: right, thx
[21:48] <bkm> wxl: but the exact same problem?
[21:50] <wxl> bkm: seems weird, but again, it's been tested by others with no such problems
[21:59] <bkm> wxl: /target/boot seems to have filled up.
[22:01] <wxl> bkm: how small is your drive?
[22:02] <bkm> wxl: my /boot partition is ~22 Mb. Drive is large.
[22:02] <wxl> bkm: did you partition it as such?
[22:02] <bkm> wxl: yes
[22:03] <wxl> bkm: in that case, i think we've got a PEBKAC. XD
[22:04] <bkm> wxl: yeah. be nice for a message saying that writing to that partition is impossible rather than just blundering on until some obscure error, but it's something i should have thought of.
[22:05] <wxl> bkm: admittedly, that's reasonable. feel free to file a bug against debian-installer.
[22:05] <bkm> wxl: many thanks for your suggestions.
[22:06] <wxl> bkm: happy to help. let me know if you need anything else. :)
[22:07] <bkm> wxl: either firefox not to consume all resources until the window manager freezes or for chromium not to blow up. other than that, lubuntu has been great on both lean and mean machines
[22:08] <wxl> bkm: fwiw i use proper chrome. there's also xombrero if you want something really light
[22:09] <wxl> bkm: i've never bothered with such things but you could probably re-nice firefox to make it behave better. maybe.
[22:10] <wxl> bkm: however, most likely is gobbling up memory.
[22:11] <wxl> bkm: there is cgroups http://serverfault.com/questions/344181/nice-for-memory-management#344187
[22:12] <bkm> wxl: actually, with chromium, i was never able to input text. i have tried different chromes, but was never able to rely on it. i think i tried re-nice, but eventually, i would have to restart the window manager. yes, memory seems worse than processor. i like that chromium has different pieces to kill, but text entry...
[22:13] <wxl> bkm: there's also ulimit/timeout http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/44985/limit-memory-usage-for-a-single-linux-process
[22:13] <bkm> wxl: great! i have not been doing much with computers lately, so i am trying to regain my vocabulary and see what has happened while i have been absent.
[22:14] <wxl> bkm: as for chromium, you might want to check and see if you're running ibus. it used to cause all sorts of headaches.
[22:15] <wxl> bkm: see also bug 1307648
[22:15] <bkm> wxl: great!
[23:27] <n-iCe> hello wxl here?
[23:30] <wxl> n-iCe: yep
[23:30] <n-iCe> does lubuntu makes everything for a ssd installation?
[23:31] <wxl> nope
[23:31] <wxl> i mean you can do an ssd installation but it's not a requirement
[23:31] <wxl> there's nothing special to do, really
[23:32] <n-iCe> really what about noatime
[23:32] <n-iCe> trim
[23:32] <wxl> those are common kernel features
[23:32] <n-iCe> I just bought a laptop who has a ssd 250GB and a sata hard drive with 500GB
[23:32] <n-iCe> so I want to make sure I do the best configuration
[23:33] <wxl> last time i installed on an ssd i just installed
[23:33] <n-iCe> ok
[23:33] <n-iCe> awesome, will actually ubuntu and lubuntu do the same?
[23:33] <wxl> as far as the kernel is concerned, yes
[23:34] <n-iCe> or should I go to Ubuntu
[23:34] <n-iCe> or nothing to worry about in lubuntu?
[23:34] <wxl> they're both the same in terms of installation, really
[23:34] <n-iCe> ok, awesome.
[23:34] <wxl> http://askubuntu.com/questions/19376/installing-ubuntu-on-a-ssd
[23:37] <n-iCe> swap is not needed anymore, right
[23:37] <n-iCe> for me
[23:37] <wxl> as long as you have the memory
[23:38] <n-iCe> 12GB
[23:38] <wxl> probably enough :)
[23:38] <wxl> if you're really worried about it you could put swap on the hard drive
[23:38] <n-iCe> ok
[23:39] <n-iCe> so, lubuntu should go ok
[23:39] <n-iCe> right
[23:39] <wxl> yup
[23:39] <wxl> i've run lubuntu on as little as about 256KB
[23:39] <n-iCe> would you put  / and boot in ssd and home in the sata?
[23:39] <wxl> not good for modern browsing, but it works!
[23:40] <wxl> that's really a personal choice but i'd probably want to use the ssd as much as possible
[23:40] <n-iCe> ok
[23:40] <n-iCe> thanks going to reboot into lubuntu hold on
[23:49] <swift110> ssd's are awesome


[20:31] <ChmEarl>  does the kernel-6.5 in Mantic also have UBSAN turned on?
[20:31] <ChmEarl> I checked the kernel-6.2 in Lunar and it had UBSAN
[20:58] <guiverc> next is noble (mantic is stable/released now)


[01:21] <ChinnoDog> @crickets
[01:23] <rmg51> seen PeenBot?
[01:23] <rmg51> PeenBot?
[01:23] <rmg51> seen PennBot?
[01:23] <rmg51> that's better
[01:39] <ChinnoDog> This place was livelier when PennBot was here.
[01:39] <ChinnoDog> That isn't really a word, is it? "Livelier"? pfft.
[01:40] <rmg51> works for me
[01:41] <waltman> You might find this amusing: http://www.mawode.com/blog/blog/2012/08/17/weirdest-exit-in-nj/
[01:45] <waltman> Or not...
[01:48] <rmg51> that will teach you not to follow Google's directions
[01:48] <waltman> But there wasn't a sign!
[01:49] <rmg51> ChinnoDog: livelier is a word
[01:49] <rmg51> I looked it up
[01:49] <ChinnoDog> oh, well I lucked out then
[01:49] <ChinnoDog> waltman: New Jersey is scary
[01:50] <rmg51> right now I'm going to follow Teddy's directions and head to bed
[01:50] <waltman> Google was confused, too!  If it had said to take the exit for the rest stop, that's what I would have done.
[01:50] <waltman> Teddy always wants to sleep.
[01:50] <rmg51> and eat chocolate
[01:50] <waltman> ChinnoDog: And this was deepest, darkest South Jersey.
[02:00] <InHisName> Ok, waltman, you win finding the weirdest exit ever.
[02:00] <waltman> Yay!
[02:00] <InHisName> BTW what happend at the meeting ?
[02:00] <ChinnoDog> Is there a prize?
[02:01] <waltman> InHisName: We talked about perl modules :)
[02:01] <InHisName> He gets recognized for having one blog entry about weird exits.
[02:02] <waltman> I will now be on the lookout for more weird exits.
[02:03] <ChinnoDog> uh, pardon me if I do not subscribe to a feed for that category.
[02:03] <InHisName> MakePearl(name of clam, number of grains of sand, number of years)
[02:04] <ChinnoDog> I thought each perl was formed around a single grain of sand
[02:04] <waltman> ChinnoDog: It'll be very low-volume :)
[02:04] <ChinnoDog> And really, who names their clams?
[02:05] <InHisName> Moma and Daddy clam ?
[02:05] <waltman> I was just so grumpy after taking an unnecessary 17 mile loop that I had to write *something*.
[02:06] <ChinnoDog> Writing about a bad exit was at least more politically correct than writing about a desire for NJ to sink into the ocean.
[02:07] <waltman> And this wasn't my first run-in with this stretch of the road!
[02:07] <InHisName> I believe there is somewhere a 5 lanes one way where the center lane is the exit only and other pairs end up going the same way beyond.  Hmmm 10 lanes total, might be CA or NY or ???
[02:08] <waltman> Once I was driving up from the south and thought I'd take Rt. 30 instead of the Expressway.  Such an interchange appears to exist if you look at the Rand McNally Atlas.  However, you can only use that exit when you're heading south.  If you're going north, there's no exit there, and you're stuck on this stretch of road where the next exit is 10 miles north.
[02:09] <InHisName> There's at least one of those one-way exits in DC too.
[02:09] <waltman> I've seen roads like that before.
[02:10] <waltman> the parkway is just bizarre between Atlantic City and Long Beach Island.
[02:10] <waltman> Lots of exits if you're headed south, but practically none if you're headed north.
[02:13] <InHisName> Maybe 'cause heading south no-one has spent $$ yet.  Going north, they're done spending $$.  So no exits to clog our streets for all finished spenders.
[02:15] <waltman> I'm OK with them having a weird mix of exits and entrances. I'm not so OK with them having a secret unmarked exit in a rest stop. :)
[02:17] <waltman> Anyhow, time to read and head to bed.  Good night.
[03:38] <MutantTurkey> quick question
[03:38] <MutantTurkey> there are thse metal things
[03:38] <MutantTurkey> which has holes going down the whole thing
[03:38] <MutantTurkey> which allows you to adjust the tightness of the object
[03:38] <MutantTurkey> sort of like a strap
[03:38] <MutantTurkey> but the name is evading me
[04:31] <InHisName> Ummm, belt ?
[04:32] <InHisName> that was a waste, he's gone already
[04:35] <andrew> I was going to say that, but now I know what he's thinking
[04:36] <andrew> http://www.gettysburgflag.com/images/MountingStrapLg.jpg <- this thing?
[04:46] <andrew> MutantTurkey: http://www.gettysburgflag.com/images/MountingStrapLg.jpg <- this thing?
[06:35] <InHisName> I always called them adjustable hose clamps.
[06:35] <InHisName> Turkey's still not online.