[01:57] <membreya> not hard MemnocH ..fun :)
[01:57] <tanek> does anyone know why firefox displays ads from sites on other tabs on top of the one im browsing, can hardy read, cause of ads all over the text :(
[01:57] <SiRrUs> MemnocH strange mine is geforce 5200 and no problems here
[01:57] <deFrysk>  tanek poor webpage
[01:57] <MemnocH> membreya, yes fun thats what we call it :)
[01:58] <membreya> SiRrUs: geforce 5200 does not = geforce 6600 :)
[01:58] <membreya> it's a card/driver problem
[01:58] <MemnocH> SiRrUs, gf 6800 and 6600 pci-e only
[01:58] <tanek> deFrysk: then, all pages in the world are porr, cause there are no exeptions
[01:58] <SiRrUs> oh ok i was reading the topic
[01:58] <membreya> pci-e...didn't you get taken for a ride MemnocH :P
[01:58] <MemnocH> lol yes
[01:58] <deFrysk> tanek, example page ?
[01:58] <MemnocH> should have stuck with my old pc, ati radeon 9800pro p4 3gig
[01:58] <tanek> www.justlinux.com
[01:58] <MemnocH> i sure did get done over
[01:59] <tanek> www.linuxquestions.org
[01:59] <membreya> what you running now ?
[01:59] <tanek> www.google.com
[01:59] <MemnocH> a64 3200
[01:59] <membreya> same :D
[01:59] <deFrysk> tanek, fine here
[01:59] <Rattboi> tanek: google?
[01:59] <Rattboi> all are fine here too
[01:59] <deFrysk> got flash instaled ?
[01:59] <membreya> google.com giving pop up ads?
[01:59] <MemnocH> ok no need to take a sports bag full of weapons to work tomorrow its working!
[01:59] <tanek> yes, flash is installed
[02:00] <MemnocH> and its fast too
[02:00] <deFrysk> tanek, macromedia.com works fine ?
[02:00] <Castoro> Hi all
[02:00] <SiRrUs> MemnocH which kernel you using
[02:00] <membreya> beauty of running a 64bit operating system on a 64bit computer :P
[02:00] <Castoro> Is there a complete guide for setting framebuffer on Ubuntu ?
[02:00] <tanek> yes, its not the pages that are screwed up, its the app
[02:00] <MemnocH> ill tell you in a sec once i work out how to open a terminal
[02:00] <MemnocH> .10 i believe though
[02:00] <membreya> lol :P
[02:00] <deFrysk> tanek, do you have firefox installed with apt-get ?
[02:00] <MemnocH> 2.6.10
[02:01] <Castoro> (or, at least, in Debian)
[02:01] <tanek> yes
[02:01] <tanek> latest warty version
[02:01] <Seattle_sucks> I remember when I invented linux
[02:01] <deFrysk> tanek, no clue
[02:01] <tanek> :(
[02:01] <MemnocH> 2.6.10-4.amd64-generic
[02:01] <membreya> if I download a package's source code, is there any way to create a .deb file with the compiled app??
[02:02] <membreya> Al_Gore: !! ..wasn't that around the same time you invented the internet?
[02:02] <Al_Gore> It was years before, i developed the source code for Unix
[02:02] <membreya> Seveas: ..just in time to be my oracle :P
[02:02] <deFrysk> tanek apt-get remove -p mozilla-firefox && apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[02:02] <Castoro> membreya, you mean [make-kpkg kernel_image]   ?
[02:02] <tanek> doing that
[02:02] <deFrysk> tanek, cool
[02:02] <Seveas> lol membreya
[02:02] <tanek> :P
[02:03] <membreya> castoro, I'm compiling the source for OO.o2 since it refuses to install via synaptic
[02:03] <Castoro> Ah, k
[02:03] <Castoro> Sry, i misunderstood
[02:03] <membreya> this is aimed at Seveas, the all knowing :)
[02:03] <deFrysk> membreya, Oo installed fine here
[02:03] <membreya> if I download a package's source code, is there any way to create a .deb file with the compiled app??
[02:03] <membreya> deFrysk: are you running amd64?
[02:03] <MemnocH`> hello
[02:04] <thoreauputic> membreya: checkinstall
[02:04] <MemnocH`> it verks!
[02:04] <membreya> welcome back MemnocH :)
[02:04] <deFrysk> membreya, ooh , sorry
[02:04] <Usiu> Is there a package in ubuntu for vim with evolution ??
[02:04] <Usiu> ?
[02:04] <Usiu> Or I need patching
[02:04] <membreya> thoreauputic: checkinstall will make a .deb file ?
[02:04] <Al_Gore> I invented Evolution
[02:04] <thoreauputic> membreya: yup
[02:04] <archangel_> hey everyone, can anyone give me a good p2p other than mldonkey?
[02:04] <Usiu> archangel_, amule
[02:04] <MemnocH`> emule
[02:04] <thoreauputic> membreya: and install it
[02:04] <membreya> archangel_: azureus
[02:04] <Usiu> membreya, azureus is for torrent
[02:04] <archangel_> amule or emule?
[02:04] <membreya> thoreauputic: so I just need to do a ./configure && make
[02:04] <thoreauputic> membreya: usually in /usr/local/
[02:04] <Usiu> archangel_, amule
[02:05] <Usiu> archangel_, not e
[02:05] <deFrysk> limewire i like
[02:05] <membreya> and then do a checkinstall
[02:05] <deFrysk> limewire and azureus
[02:05] <archangel_> is there a gui?
[02:05] <archangel_> for amule?
[02:05] <thoreauputic> membreya: yes, that's it
[02:05] <thoreauputic> membreya: it's dead easy
[02:06] <membreya> damn you openoffice.org..giving me RPM's!
[02:06] <membreya> I HATE YOU!
[02:06] <Usiu> archangel_, amule is in gtk2
[02:06] <thoreauputic> membreya: compiling openoffice, on the other hand... well ... have fun ;)
[02:06] <membreya> thoreauputic: it refuses to install either via apt-get install or synaptic >:(
[02:07] <thoreauputic> membreya: I gathered
[02:07] <membreya> don't gather..fix :P
[02:07] <thoreauputic> membreya: you could try using alien on the rpm I guess
[02:08] <membreya> not another thing I have to learn
[02:08] <fade3> hi can anyone help with gnome ppp?
[02:08] <Vjaz> Hm... is the current (2.10.0) Fileroller brain-damaged, or does everyone think that it's a good idea to unpack in the directory that's selected with the dialog, and not the one it's showing?
[02:08] <thoreauputic> membreya: the open office folk don't seem to realise that rpm is brain-damaged
[02:08] <MemnocH> how do i configure sound?
[02:08] <membreya> Vjaz: known qualm :P
[02:08] <thoreauputic> why they don't supply an installer/binary is beyond me
[02:09] <Vjaz> membreya: Thought so... is it more a problem in File-Roller or the Gnome standard dialog?
[02:09] <membreya> not sure
[02:09] <xiximkopp> IS IT POSSIBLE TO CHANGE THE MIXER DEVICE CONTROLLED BY MM-KEYBOARDS IN GNOME??? :-D
[02:09] <thoreauputic> xiximkopp: IS IT POSSIBLE TO FIX YOUR CAPS LOCK ?
[02:10] <membreya> lol thor :P
[02:10] <Usiu> thoreauputic, ;) yes
[02:10] <Al_Gore> They put a vending machine in
[02:10] <archangel_> I'm trying to use amule but it says I make a connection and lose a connection
[02:10] <Usiu> archangel_, try... again
[02:11] <Usiu> archangel_, maybe you;re low id
[02:11] <LordGrunt> what about removing gnome completely (exept synaptic maybe)? possible or not?
[02:11] <Usiu> LordGrunt, Why not ?
[02:11] <membreya> how can you run synaptic without gnome?
[02:11] <archangel_> yea it said I was
[02:11] <membreya> you could just change your run level so it doesn't load by default :)
[02:11] <archangel_> how do I change low id
[02:11] <deFrysk> membreya, install xfce4
[02:11] <membreya> archangel_: reconnect
[02:11] <LordGrunt> no, im switching to kde
[02:12] <membreya> deFrysk: wassat?
[02:12] <Usiu> membreya, he can... but not without libgnome etc..
[02:12] <MemnocH> membreya, your using x86_64?
[02:12] <Usiu> membreya, anyway gnome is the best linux desktop..
[02:12] <Usiu> membreya, kde sucks..
[02:12] <deFrysk> membreya, gtk2 wm
[02:12] <MemnocH> yeh it does
[02:12] <membreya> MemnocH: amd-k8
[02:12] <Usiu> membreya, that's my opition.
[02:12] <LordGrunt> and kde's package manager sucks, i want synaptic kept
[02:12] <membreya> deFrysk: why would I want that? :P
[02:12] <deFrysk> Usiu, tsk!
[02:12] <deFrysk> membreya, to run synaptic
[02:12] <deFrysk> ;p
[02:13] <Al_Gore> Help
[02:13] <occy> anyone know how to fix this?
[02:13] <occy> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:13] <occy>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdeedu-data_4%3a3.3.2-1ubuntu2_all.deb
[02:13] <LordGrunt> archangel_: using what with low id?
[02:13] <deFrysk> kde rules btw ;p
[02:13] <occy> I tried: apt-get -f install
[02:13] <Al_Gore> I cannot get Ubuntu to install
[02:13] <Seveas> Al_Gore, that's not good
[02:13] <Castoro> Anyone can tell me where i can find a framebuffer guide?
[02:13] <membreya> deFrysk: synaptic runs.. I just can't get it to install OO.o2
[02:14] <Al_Gore> I have an Apple IIGS with a 8Mhz 64C816 Processor, 2MB of ram, and a 1X CD Rom and a 80MB Hard Disk, but Ubuntu won't install on it :(
[02:14] <Seveas> Castoro, http://wwww.google.com/search?q=framebuffer+guide
[02:14] <Seveas> Al_Gore, rofl
[02:14] <BleSS> somebody with ups (uninterrumpided power system) could run '[ -d /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0 ]  && echo yes' ?
[02:14] <Seveas> are you serious??
[02:14] <membreya> LordGrunt: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu :)
[02:14] <SiRrUs> Al_Goreafter creating Linux and the internet should be childs play for you :)
[02:14] <jsgotangco> whoever made that OOo2 splash page sure is in a hurry
[02:14] <Castoro> Seveas, thx, but i've already done the Google-way. I asked for a Ubuntu How-to ...
[02:14] <Al_Gore> :)
[02:14] <membreya> jsgotangco: stop taunting me, you know I can't install it
[02:14] <occy> jsgotangco: s/is/was/ ?
[02:15] <Seveas> Castoro, maybe there is something on the ubuntu wiki...
[02:15] <Castoro> Nope
[02:15] <archangel_> anyone know how I can make port 4662 available in amule?
[02:15] <Castoro> (at least, nothing working)
[02:15] <occy> anyone know much about apt?
[02:15] <Usiu> archangel_, on your NAT router !
[02:15] <Usiu> archangel_, ;)
[02:15] <deFrysk> membreya, I have kde.3.4 running on hoary :)
[02:15] <archangel_> please explain I'm new
[02:16] <mjr> ok, now's the time to reboot to hoary (to get the new kernel too)
[02:16] <occy> mjr: Mine died on upgrade
[02:16] <occy> :/
[02:16] <membreya> enjoy mjr :)
[02:16] <occy> mjr: tried to apt-get -f install   and that didn't fix it.
[02:16] <Usiu> archangel_, if you are behind a NAT... large network one gateway... only gateway admin can somehow make connection tracking for it..
[02:16] <MemnocH`> how does one test 3d performance and drivers?
[02:16] <occy> mjr: any ideas?
[02:17] <deFrysk> MemnocH, glxgears ?
[02:17] <membreya> MemnocH: glxgears from a terminal :)
[02:17] <membreya> hah deFrysk :P
[02:17] <MemnocH`> how do i launch it?
[02:17] <deFrysk> ;p
[02:17] <MemnocH`> newbies here
[02:17] <membreya> go to a terminal and type "glxgears
[02:17] <deFrysk> in your terminal
[02:17] <membreya> "
[02:17] <Seveas> MemnocH`, play a game and check framerate :)
[02:17] <Usiu> archangel_, try to connect to other servers..
[02:17] <membreya> the frames are displayed in the terminal
[02:17] <Usiu> archangel_, that's all..
[02:17] <deFrysk> or start playing doom3
[02:18] <MemnocH`> 34677 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6935.400 FPS
[02:18] <MemnocH`> any good?
[02:18] <membreya> hahah yes :)
[02:18] <Usiu> MemnocH, what card ?
[02:18] <MemnocH`> gf6600GT pci-e
[02:18] <membreya> I get like 500 :|
[02:18] <Usiu> MemnocH, i get 1320 FPS with radeon 7500 ;)
[02:18] <Seveas> not bad :)
[02:18] <MemnocH`> $275 AUD
[02:18] <membreya> but I'm only using a geforce 4000
[02:18] <BleSS> somebody with ups (uninterrumpided power system)?
[02:18] <Seveas> WITHOUT ati drivers
[02:18] <MemnocH`> :)
[02:18] <membreya> MemnocH: are you using agpart or are you using nv_agp ?
[02:19] <occy> crimsun: you about?
[02:19] <MemnocH`> ahh no idea, im scared to open xfree config again incaise it blows up
[02:19] <chrissturm> hey guys! i am running hoary, and after logging into gnome i get "failed to initialize HAL".
[02:19] <MemnocH`> ill check though :)
[02:19] <occy> he must be asleep
[02:20] <MemnocH`> membreya, which part ofr the file?
[02:20] <MemnocH`> ill pm it to you?
[02:20] <membreya> k, but it's easier to send /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:21] <MemnocH`> xfree here...
[02:21] <chrissturm> how can i check if inotify works? i think it should work, because i use hoary. but beagle complains
[02:21] <chrissturm> and i hove no /dev/inotify device
[02:22] <Al_Gore> I have an Apple IIGS with a 8Mhz 64C816 Processor, 2MB of ram, and a 1X CD Rom and a 80MB Hard Disk, but slackware won't install on it :(
[02:22] <Al_Gore> the most powerful computer in the world
[02:23] <psi> when did you invent it?
[02:23] <occy> Here is my error, I've pasted it to pastebin.com:    http://pastebin.com/255645
[02:23] <occy> anyone have a free moment?
[02:23] <LordGrunt> upgrade to hoarty asks me about upgrading new vesrion of /etc/udev/scripts/ide-devfs.sh. should i do it?
[02:23] <LordGrunt> i mean, install new or keep?
[02:23] <Amaranth> occy: File a bug.
[02:23] <zerovertex> LordGrunt, install new caused no problems for me.
 can you help me get Debian running
 I have an Apple IIGS with a 8Mhz 64C816 Processor, 2MB of ram, and a 1X CD Rom and a 80MB Hard Disk, but Debian won't install on it :(
[02:24] <Al_Gore> --> exobyte<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #debian
 It won't install on my TI-30 either...
 Al_Gore: What happens when you try?
[02:24] <thoreauputic> Al_Gore: you need a PDP-11
[02:24] <ivan_> occy:just ask the question and c who bites
 Al_Gore: linux will not run on such a computer
 I thought Linux was portable?
 stew thanks. that's what i wanted. though it does'nt go down to the level of gnome/kde/etc. but that's sort of what i want.
[02:24] <Al_Gore> --> jharrisonwk<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #debian
 Al_Gore: It really needs a CPU with memory management.
 Al_Gore: Port[able]  and port[ed]  are different words.
[02:24] <occy> ivan_: heh, I've already asked.
 sp: /msg dpkg install kde ; /msg dpkg install gnome ; or try using aptitude
[02:24] <LordGrunt> zerovertex: thanks
[02:24] <Amaranth> daniels: Thank you.
[02:24] <LordGrunt> lol
[02:24] <occy> ivan_: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade   fails.  I tried apt-get -f install   it didn't fix it.
[02:24] <johnnybezak> Al_Gore: try netbsd :P
[02:24] <membreya> MemnocH`: just copy and paste it to a private message :)
[02:24] <occy> ftwig: :P
[02:25] <Amaranth> occy: Yeah, that's a bug. https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[02:25] <MemnocH`> membreya, dont mind me, not used to this client
[02:25] <occy> Amaranth: ahh, no way to get around it?
[02:25] <membreya> :P
[02:25] <Amaranth> occy: You can force it.
[02:25] <ftwig> only just joined, sorry thought you had just posted a link to the\question
[02:25] <MemnocH`> the whole log file?
[02:25] <Amaranth> occy: But still file a bug.
[02:25] <membreya> sure MemnocH` :)
[02:26] <BleSS> somebody knows if a ups (uninterrumpided power system) is managed via acpi?
[02:26] <occy> Amaranth: k, can you tell me how to make it go through?  (force?)
[02:26] <Myrtti> /me crosses her fingers
[02:26] <MemnocH`> can u open chat up :)
[02:26] <MemnocH`> cant get it to work here.
[02:26] <MemnocH`> newb....
[02:26] <Amaranth> occy: dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/kdeedu-data_4%3a3.3.2-1ubuntu2_all.deb
[02:26] <Amaranth> whatever that %3a is supposed to be
[02:26] <membreya> MemnocH`: x-chat?
[02:26] <MemnocH`> yeh
[02:27] <membreya> right click on my name and go to Open Dialogue Window
[02:27] <Amaranth> or dbl click the nick
[02:27] <Amaranth> that'll open a "Dialogue Window"
[02:27] <membreya> Amaranth: by default double click does a "whois"
[02:28] <Amaranth> oh, so it does
[02:28] <Amaranth> i haven't used that feature in a long time
[02:28] <membreya> get your head out of MIRC Amaranth :P
[02:28] <Amaranth> hey, i think that was x-chat windows
[02:28] <membreya> suuuuuuure :P
[02:28] <MemnocH`> thx
[02:28] <MemnocH`> ok, with x86_64 I need to setup a chroot to install 32bit stuff into dont I?
[02:29] <membreya> MemnocH: not necessarily
[02:29] <membreya> just find a 64bit version of the app
[02:29] <MemnocH`> transgaming, world of warcraft is my aim
[02:29] <Amaranth> MemnocH`: iirc there is a package for that
[02:29] <membreya> damn...another loss to WOW
[02:29] <Amaranth> vs what?
[02:29] <MemnocH`> yes, totaly adicted
[02:29] <MemnocH`> so much so I forget how to spell and function as a human
[02:30] <membreya> you're right at home on the net then :P
[02:30] <membreya> hmmmm MemnocH` your private message has stopped sending :|
[02:30] <MemnocH`> get that?
[02:30] <membreya> yup
[02:30] <membreya> ok, perhaps it's easier to tell you what to look for
[02:30] <membreya> either look for agpart
[02:31] <membreya> or nv_agp
[02:31] <Usiu> Is there a eclipse3 for ubuntu ??
[02:31] <Usiu> ?
[02:31] <LordGrunt> what to install instead of gnome display manager (from kde packages)?
[02:31] <membreya> send away then MemnocH` :)
[02:31] <LordGrunt> i want to get rid of gnome's login stuff
[02:31] <thoreauputic> LordGrunt: kdm
[02:31] <LordGrunt> just installing will be fine?
[02:32] <Funraiser> just discovered how to download "files" using newsgroups...it's amazing
[02:32] <Amaranth> x-chat will only paste a certain number of lines
[02:32] <Amaranth> for obvious reasons
[02:32] <thoreauputic> LordGrunt: I suppose - haven't tried it. It would need to be made default I guess
[02:33] <Amaranth> LordGrunt: What's wrong with gdm?
[02:33] <membreya> wants to be different for the sake of being different?
[02:33] <LordGrunt> its a part of gnome which is going off from my system ;)
[02:34] <LordGrunt> for the sake of hdd space
[02:34] <LordGrunt> which im short on
[02:34] <membreya> buy a bigger harddrive?
[02:34] <thoreauputic> LordGrunt: why aren't you just using kubuntu?
[02:34] <LordGrunt> because i never heard about it? :P
[02:35] <Amaranth> But I don't understand why you would replace gdm with kdm.
[02:35] <thoreauputic> LordGrunt: that would be a reason... *grin*
[02:35] <HiddenWolf> lordgrunt: kubuntu -> ubuntu -gnome +kde
[02:35] <occy> Amaranth: filed.
[02:35] <Amaranth> Unless you're purging GTK and GNOME completely off your system.
[02:35] <LordGrunt> no, gtk stays :)
[02:35] <HiddenWolf> amaranth: now there's an idea!
[02:35] <Amaranth> HiddenWolf: You fail it.
[02:35] <Amaranth> :)
[02:36] <MemnocH`> does trillian support linux?
[02:36] <LordGrunt> k, i have 260MB free on / :D and upgrade still in progress...
[02:36] <Myrtti> prolly not, why are you asking?
[02:37] <thoreauputic> MemnocH, no but beeblebrox does
[02:37] <MemnocH`> need icq / msn support on this boxen
[02:37] <Amaranth> LordGrunt: apt-get clean <--that might help
[02:37] <Amaranth> MemnocH`: gaim
[02:37] <Myrtti> MemnocH`: gaim
[02:37] <Myrtti> or bitlbee
[02:37] <MemnocH`> ok thx guys
[02:37] <LordGrunt> Amaranth: wont hurt? ;)
[02:37] <Amaranth> LordGrunt: It'll remove all the debs on your system.
[02:37] <Amaranth> The ones apt-get downloads to install from.
[02:38] <Amaranth> You already have them installed, you don't really need the debs anymore
[02:38] <LordGrunt> that will be a lot :) thanks
[02:38] <xamdm> how can i change the applications-menu in hoary ??
[02:39] <HiddenWolf> xadm: you can't, easily
[02:39] <thoreauputic> xamdm: with great difficulty...
[02:39] <xamdm> HiddenWolf, and uneasily ;-)
[02:40] <HiddenWolf> xamdm: start editing xml and .desktop files.
[02:40] <bretzel> chrissturm: I agree but not everybody are here to answer questions, and only few ( it seems ) knows very well al sort of Linux/Ubuntu/Debian problemes. We try help each others, and getting help at the same time :-)
[02:40] <xamdm> HiddenWolf, thx
[02:41] <HiddenWolf> bretzel: for the difficult questions an awnser can almost always be found. Don't be suprized if you see the kernel team leader anwsering questions about gstreamer-mad here, btw. ;)
[02:41] <bretzel> :-)
[02:41] <chrissturm> ok, so now my tricky question: why does my gnome say "unable to initialize HAL" =
[02:42] <chrissturm> and why does beagle complain about missing inotify
[02:42] <chrissturm> (running latest hoary kernel)
[02:42] <HiddenWolf> I think hoary is running dnotify
[02:42] <chrissturm> nope
[02:43] <lunitik> HiddenWolf: inotify afaik
[02:43] <xamdm> chrissturm, is hal installed ??
[02:43] <occy> Amaranth: thank you for your help.
[02:46] <chrissturm> xamdm: yep
[02:48] <skreet> I'm getting GPG signature errors while using the Nerim repository, Am I alone?
[02:48] <airox> No :)
[02:48] <chrissturm> skreet: no.
[02:49] <skreet> chrissturm, good to know :D
[02:49] <skreet> chrissturm, I'll just log and try later then. Thanks.
[02:49] <chrissturm> skreet: you can just ignore those errors
[02:49] <chrissturm> they occur because you dont have the nerim key installed
[02:51] <MemnocH`> any pointers from any one on how to config sound (audigy 2 value)
[02:51] <chrissturm> memmoch: what do you want to configure?
[02:52] <MemnocH`> no sound atm
[02:52] <MemnocH`> no idea how to make it work..
[02:53] <chrissturm> memmoch: type this: lsmod | grep snd
[02:53] <skreet> Anyone know if theres a way to fix those ATI bugs relating to closing the screen or the system going to sleep?
[02:53] <LordGrunt> hmm, so python is somehow connected with gnome or just ubuntu devs choice?
[02:53] <MemnocH`> chrissturm, nothing
[02:53] <psai_> how can i specify the alsa "default" device
[02:54] <LordGrunt> yay, seems like upgrade is finishing :D after 5h of dl and 2.5h of configuring ;)
[02:54] <skreet> Multimedia Systems Selector in the System Menu
[02:54] <skreet> should take care of it for ya.
[02:55] <psai_> hmm dmesg shows me
[02:55] <psai_> ALSA device list:
[02:55] <psai_>   #0: Dummy 1
[02:55] <psai_>   #1: Virtual MIDI Card 1
[02:55] <psai_>   #2:
[02:55] <psai_>   #3: NVidia nForce2 with ALC650F at 0xea080000, irq 22
[02:55] <psai_> i believe gstreamer use #0 instead of #3
[02:55] <chrissturm> memnoch: are you running horay or warty?
[02:55] <MemnocH`> horay
[02:55] <skreet> psai_, Thats odd..
[02:56] <psai_> in programs like beep media player i can manually select the currect device
[02:56] <psai_> and it works
[02:56] <psai_> but i cant figure out how to setup gstreamer
[02:56] <skreet> Hm
[02:56] <chrissturm> memnoch:  sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[02:57] <linuxboy> LordGrunt: what upgrade are you doing?
[02:57] <LordGrunt> to hoarty
[02:57] <MemnocH`> chrissturm, ok ok
[02:57] <chrissturm> psai: /etc/esound/esd.conf
[02:57] <linuxboy> LordGrunt: what speed pc you doing it on ?
[02:59] <LordGrunt> linuxboy: 333Mhz ;)
[02:59] <skreet> Wow.
[02:59] <skreet> Sweet.
[02:59] <LordGrunt> hehe, u see? its possible :)
[02:59] <gilles> How to update warty to hoary, so that warty is exactly as hoary is when it's installed with the preview cd (with background, music, auto-recognition of photo camera...) ?
[02:59] <linuxboy> LordGrunt: aaah ;) ok
[03:00] <skreet> Imagine if he was using slackware or gentoo or something.
[03:00] <skreet> :P
[03:01] <MemnocH`> chrissturm, what to do now? Any how tos on this?
[03:01] <kaouete> hi
[03:01] <xdebianuser> Hi there. I'm an Ubuntu newbie, just completed installation and ws wondering if its possible to install KDE
[03:01] <skreet> xdebianuser, It's possible, but a pain in the arse
[03:02] <chrissturm> memnoch: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6892
[03:02] <deFrysk> xdebianuser, on hoary , yes
[03:02] <kaouete> i have a little problem, after few investigations, it looks like that when i start X, i get this error : (EE) I810(0): vm86() syscall generated signal 8.
[03:02] <skreet> Ah, I did it on warty.
[03:02] <Hannes_> LordGrunt: your pc is half-evil ;D
[03:02] <fade3> Connecting to the Internet: can anyone help??!!!
[03:02] <LordGrunt> Hannes_: why half?
[03:02] <deFrysk> on hoary kde instal is easy
[03:02] <skreet> kaouete, Using on-board video on an Intel Chipset board?
[03:03] <chrissturm> memnoch: this entry suggests that it wont work with hoary. strange thing is that my alsa-headers version is 1.0.8.
[03:03] <Hannes_> LordGrunt: 333x2=?
[03:03] <kaouete> skreet: yes, exactly, i have never had problem on a debian sid
[03:03] <Marlun> Whats the system requirements for running ubuntu? =)
[03:03] <skreet> kaouete, What is your driver line in X11/xorg.conf (depending on build of ubuntu it's either Xfree or Xorg)
[03:03] <kaouete> skreet: i810, i'm on hoary, with xorg
[03:03] <fade3> Connecting to the Internet: can anyone help??!!!
[03:04] <Nermal> fade3, you seem to be already connected
[03:04] <skreet> kaouete, I cant tell you how to *fix* the i810 driver but I can bet that "vesa" will work for you just fine :D
[03:04] <fade3> not quite
[03:04] <skreet> vesa is what I use on my laptop when i'm not gaming because ATI's FGLRX and suspend/sleep modes dont play well :D
[03:04] <kaouete> skreet: yes i know :)
[03:04] <MemnocH`> chrissturm, ok thx, ill have to get onto forums
[03:04] <mjr> well well, isn't this composite thing slow
[03:05] <mjr> big surprise there :)
[03:05] <skreet> kaouete, Have you tried making sure xorg and drivers are up to date?
[03:05] <kaouete> skreet: ubuntu ones :]
[03:05] <skreet> kaouete, Hrm.
[03:05] <kaouete> i guess they are
[03:05] <kaouete> but it was working before on xfree with drivers from dri cvs
[03:05] <skreet> Well you're past my limited knowledge :D
[03:06] <kaouete> hehe
[03:06] <kaouete> cya
[03:06] <kaouete> thanks for the help
[03:06] <T_Trainer> could someone tell me how I could set default character encoding in Hoary?
[03:06] <Solatis> hmmm anyone has any idea why the nvidia drivers aren't working 'out of the box' on warty ? they used to work :X
[03:06] <Marlun> can I run ubuntu on a computer with only 233mhz and 6gb harddrive?
[03:06] <kaouete> Solatis: dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[03:06] <Solatis> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/xfree.log
[03:06] <kaouete> Marlun: you can try, i dont think it will be really usable
[03:07] <Marlun> ok :)
[03:07] <Solatis> kaouete: hm ? what does that do ? :P
[03:07] <engie> Hi. I'm running the hoary preview on a dell laptop (It's great!), however I am looking for a nice way of connecting to wireless networks. The system should store my WEP keys, scan for known networks and connect to them if possible, it not it should scan for open networks and offer to connect to them. Pretty much what the standard windows drivers do. Is there any ubuntu-esque way to do this?
[03:07] <Marlun> I was wondering if I could use that old thing for anything useful, but I guess not :P
[03:07] <kaouete> Solatis: it reconfigures locales, you just tell : next, next, next until it ask you for default character encodings
[03:07] <msh_> Hi, how can i change the resaolution of my console?
[03:07] <msh_> Edit the grub files/
[03:07] <kaouete> Solatis: in fact, do : sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[03:08] <kaouete> msh_: look at vga= option
[03:08] <Solatis> kaouete: but how can that fix the nvidia driver ?
[03:08] <Solatis> i don't see the relevance :P
[03:08] <kaouete> Solatis: ah, i dont see the link neither
[03:08] <Solatis> d'oh
[03:08] <Solatis> :P
[03:08] <thoreauputic> Marlun: sure you can use it - I have a 200mhz 64MB machine running Debian Woody
[03:09] <kaouete> it's because i didnt want to talke to you but to T_Trainer
[03:09] <Solatis> anyway, my problem still persist
[03:09] <fade3> internal modem connected to isdn line...can anyone help?
[03:09] <kaouete> sorry ^^
[03:09] <fade3> cant seem to connect
[03:09] <Marlun> A long time ago when I installed linux and then uninstalled it I could not install windows on the harddrive for some reason, can that still happen if I was to install ubuntu and then uninstall it?
[03:09] <Solatis> in my xfree log:
[03:09] <Solatis> (II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
[03:09] <Solatis> (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nvidia
[03:09] <Solatis> (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
[03:09] <Solatis> (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[03:09] <kaouete> thoreauputic: he can use it, but cant use gnome or thing like that, can he ?
[03:09] <kaouete> Solatis: install nvidia module :)
[03:09] <Solatis> how can that be caused, when I certainly /do/ have the nvidia module loaded ?
[03:09] <Solatis> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/lsmod
[03:09] <kaouete> for xorg
[03:09] <kaouete> not the kernel one
[03:10] <thoreauputic> kaouete: gnome would be slowwww - I use fluxbox on that machine
[03:10] <Solatis> warty still uses Xfree ?
[03:10] <kaouete> thoreauputic: hehe ;)
[03:10] <Myrtti> yes
[03:10] <kaouete> maybe i should use warty if it use xfree, because it looks like xorg have problem with i830
[03:10] <msh_> kaouete: there isnt a vga option in my menu.lst
[03:10] <Solatis> ah i should still have to apt-get install nvidia-glx or something ?
[03:10] <kaouete> msh_: you need to add it, wait
[03:11] <msh_> ok
[03:11] <kaouete> ah, i dont have any debian working with me, i cant tell you :)
[03:11] <kaouete> there is a default option line
[03:11] <kaouete> added by update-grub
[03:11] <Solatis> nvidia-kernel-common ?
[03:11] <fade3> I will pay $100000 to whoever solves my isdn problem
[03:11] <kaouete> Solatis: not the kernel one
[03:11] <kaouete> fade3: i'm not sure you will :)
[03:11] <airox> engie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10046&page=1&pp=10
[03:11] <msh_> fade3: haha, im ccnp, throw it at me
[03:11] <Solatis> nvidia-glx ?
[03:11] <fade3> trust me
[03:12] <kaouete> Solatis: maybe
[03:12] <fade3> as long as my name is fade3, I wont tell a lie
[03:12] <kaouete> fade3: for this price, you can buy a dev to do the job
[03:12] <msh_> nick fade2
[03:12] <kaouete> Solatis: look at the howtos on ubuntu.com
[03:12] <kaouete> or the wiki
[03:12] <kaouete> i'm sure there is one about nvidia
[03:12] <mjr> composite didn't even crash even when running tuxracer (ooh, aah)
[03:13] <fade3> good point kaouete
[03:13] <fade3> but my offer still stands
[03:13] <fade3> now who is bold enough?
[03:13] <fade3> who are men and who are mice?
[03:14] <kaouete> :)
[03:14] <fade3> who are linux gurus and who are window washers
[03:14] <mjr> ooh, aah, Hoary contains my most excellent ghextris game :)
[03:14] <airox> I'm a garbage collector men.
[03:14] <jbailey> Hey, window washers scare me.  Sitting on a board 25 stories up seems just insane to me.
[03:14] <jbailey> At lesat Linux hacking is safe. =)
[03:14] <fade3> hehe
[03:14] <fade3> now seriously guys\
[03:15] <fade3> i really need help
[03:15] <kaouete> why ubuntu doesnt ask me if i want linux-386 OR linux-686 (or another one :)
[03:15] <fade3> with thsi isdn problem
[03:15] <mjr> ooh, aah, it bugs out
[03:15] <thoreauputic> fade3: sudo apt-get install isdutils
[03:15] <thoreauputic> * isdnutils
[03:15] <mjr> occy, no other ideas
[03:15] <wobbit> Hi i have a problem.... Im trying to install ubuntu over my network using tftp and ermm it doesnt work :p
[03:15] <fade3> thanks thoreauputic
[03:16] <thoreauputic> fade3:  found this http://www.linux.com/howtos/Modem-HOWTO-24.shtml
[03:16] <wobbit> If anyone has done network installs ill appreciate any help you guys can give me!!
[03:16] <Solatis> kaouete: ok well nvidia-glx didn't do the trick :(
[03:16] <LordGrunt> gee, my upgrade isn't finished yet. it goes over 2.5 h now...
[03:16] <kaouete> hehe
[03:16] <kaouete> so i dont know
[03:16] <thoreauputic> fade3 google  linux+isdn+modem+configuration+debian
[03:17] <LordGrunt> +installer+drivers
[03:17] <membreya> i hate you for suggesting crack-attack as a game thoreauputic, it's robbed me of such much of my life now :(
[03:17] <fade3> doing this as we speak...
[03:17] <Nermal> google should have an "I'm feeling stupid" button to basically do an I'm feeling lucky from irc
[03:17] <fade3> membreya addicted to crack? attack?
[03:17] <Solatis> sheesh
[03:17] <thoreauputic> membreya: not guilty - 'twas not I, Sir...
[03:18] <fade3> i agree nermal
[03:18] <wobbit> when you boot up my network boot agent just sits here after find the tfpt not doing very much... does it take a long time to work??? i used this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2004-11-26.2137127791 page as reference
[03:18] <fade3> cos I'm always feeling stupid these days
[03:18] <membreya> im sure it was
[03:19] <kaouete> grumpf, downloading warty
[03:19] <kaouete> what are the main differences between warty and hoary ?
[03:19] <thoreauputic> fade3, I also suggest reading  `apt-cache show isdnutils `
[03:20] <LordGrunt> hoary have all newest stuff possible :)
[03:20] <kaouete> krkr
[03:20] <Solatis> where can i put a list of modules that should be loaded at boot ? under gentoo i had a /etc/modules.autoload, is something like that available for ubuntu ?
[03:20] <LordGrunt> thoreauputic: he have no ubuntu installed
[03:20] <fade3> once again, I'm indebted to u guys...thanks thorapeutic
[03:20] <kaouete> Solatis: /etc/modules
[03:20] <airox> Solatis: /etc/modules
[03:20] <Solatis> ok tx
[03:20] <airox> *slap*
[03:20] <kaouete> :)
[03:20] <kaouete> time to eat.
[03:20] <wobbit> help :(
[03:20] <kaouete> cya
[03:20] <Solatis> haha =)
[03:21] <airox> hmm ...
[03:21] <thoreauputic> LordGrunt: yes he does - i spent about an hour in pm with him trying to get ppp working
[03:21] <engie> airox: Thanks, that Wifi Radar thingy looks pretty cool. I'll have a play.
[03:21] <fade3> thanks wobbit
[03:22] <LordGrunt> thoreauputic: and works now? the system i mean? i thought he stopped install after net errors
[03:22] <airox> engie: Yeah, was looking for it also. Would be nice to have it popup balloons like in windows ...
[03:22] <wobbit> np :p
[03:22] <airox> engie: Hopefully there will be things better ;)
[03:22] <wobbit> lol
[03:22] <wobbit> that will take some time fade3  im a big bugger :p
[03:22] <thoreauputic> LordGrunt: he's trying to get isdn working ( fade3)
[03:22] <engie> airox: Well, it's python based - ideal for future ubuntu integration I guess
[03:23] <fade3> lol
[03:23] <airox> engie: yeah
[03:23] <Solatis> woohoo my nvidia driver is (finally) working!
[03:23] <Solatis> tx all! (K)
[03:23] <fade3> okay thoreauputic:I typed in the command
[03:24] <fade3> sudo apt-get install isdnutils
[03:24] <airox> Solatis: Get rid of your msn addiction.
[03:24] <airox> :P
[03:24] <LordGrunt> yuppiieeeeeee! upgrade finished!
[03:24] <thoreauputic> fade3: and?
[03:24] <Solatis> haha airox
[03:24] <fade3> I got a blue screen
[03:24] <Solatis> tbh, i'm a bitlbee user
[03:24] <wobbit> lol
[03:24] <Solatis> so only irc
[03:24] <membreya> engie: a wifi radar? :)
[03:24] <airox> Good thing :)
[03:24] <membreya> url ? :D
[03:24] <Solatis> so i never EVER see those smilies :)
[03:24] <thoreauputic> fade3: with questions?
[03:24] <fade3> lol, yes
[03:25] <thoreauputic> whew
[03:25] <thoreauputic> :)
[03:25] <fade3> isps's telephone number...etc
[03:25] <fade3> I'm just filling it out
[03:25] <thoreauputic> aha
[03:25] <fade3> hang on...
[03:25] <Solatis> wow, never EVER have i enjoyed smooth scrolling this much... long live better drivers :)
[03:25] <thoreauputic> sounds promising
[03:26] <motuline> Does iptables block even xchat receiving?
[03:26] <airox> motuline: If you configure it so.
[03:26] <motuline> default settings
[03:26] <airox> default settings ...
[03:26] <motuline> i installed ubuntu about 1h ago
[03:27] <airox> motuline: Then it will not block anything afaik.
[03:27] <motuline> ok
[03:27] <airox> You mean default settings when loaded i assume ?
[03:27] <motuline> i guess
[03:27] <motuline> i installed ubuntu and i havent do anything to iptables (sorry for bad english :) )
[03:28] <airox> :)
[03:28] <airox> Well ubuntu doesn't block anything by default.
[03:28] <membreya> why are there no "howto's" for using gmail in linux? :|
[03:28] <motuline> it blocks my dcc sends ^^
[03:28] <airox> But I guess there aren't any services listening to ...
[03:28] <thoreauputic> membreya: why would you need one?
[03:28] <membreya> thoreauputic: cos I'm stupid? :)
[03:29] <membreya> or you mean why would I use it ?
[03:29] <membreya> cos it's 1gb of free storage
[03:29] <thoreauputic> membreya: ah, that explains it :)
[03:29] <membreya> :P
[03:29] <Solatis> anyone with a gforce2 here ?
[03:29] <airox> Solatis: yep.
[03:29] <motuline> and another guestion about iptables ^^.. /sbin/iptables --flush disables iptable settings? but how i can restore them? (/etc/int.d/iptables restart in fc)
[03:29] <airox> Solatis: had one running with linux.
[03:29] <membreya> me saying I'm stupid is a redundant comment though
[03:29] <Solatis> as in, what are normal glxgears FPS results for a geforce2?
[03:29] <Solatis> i get 250FPS
[03:29] <Solatis> i think it's a bit too low
[03:29] <airox> motuline: You have to configure it first!
[03:30] <motuline> argh :)
[03:30] <airox> motuline: It's a hell of a job to make one, so consider installing some firewall tool.
[03:30] <airox> motuline: Although for desktops it shouldn't be that hard.
[03:30] <thoreauputic> motuline: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[03:30] <membreya> firestarter is good..just don't run the tray icon :P
[03:30] <airox> It has one ? :)
[03:31] <thoreauputic> membreya: I have no problems with the tray icon...
[03:31] <motuline> if i download firestarter i can remove/disable iptables?
[03:31] <membreya> i was always getting requests outside of ports I wanted :|
[03:31] <thoreauputic> motuline: no, firestarter uses iptables :)
[03:31] <airox> motuline: You can set the iptables rules.
[03:31] <motuline> ok
[03:31] <membreya> even though my physical firewall only lets a few ports forward :|
[03:31] <motuline> (newbie) :)
[03:32] <airox> pf for firewalling is nice to :)
[03:33] <fade3> still no luck thorapeutic
[03:33] <thoreauputic> motuline: your dcc problem could be either 1) being behind NAT (connection sharing) or 2) not getting your IP from the server
[03:33] <Solatis> omg i'm just soooo happy with my nvidia drivers working :P
[03:33] <Solatis> hahaha
[03:33] <Solatis> sheesh =)
[03:34] <Solatis> everything works smooth again
[03:34] <thoreauputic> motuline: the second is configurable in xchat
[03:34] <airox> Solatis: hehe
[03:34] <Solatis> wooohoooo ! :)
[03:34] <fade3> the questions were specific to a certain domain I think
[03:34] <airox> Solatis: Ever played Enemy Territory ? :))
[03:34] <Solatis> haha
[03:34] <Solatis> you know
[03:34] <xamdm> Solatis, which version are u using ??, just builde a package with the 7167 ;-)
[03:34] <Solatis> 30 seconds ago
[03:34] <fade3> asking abount rates tables and country codes...
[03:34] <motuline> is there some better sources.list for ubuntu (before used fc3)
[03:34] <djp> ok, getting more experimental now... what does anyone here recommend as the better lightweight window manager? xfce4, fluxbox, blackbox etc?
[03:34] <airox> Solatis: hehehe
[03:34] <Solatis> someone else told me to install that :P
[03:34] <thoreauputic> fade3:  :(
[03:34] <airox> Solatis: So, do it! :)
[03:34] <fade3> whats that got to do with isdn?
[03:34] <Solatis> xamdm: i downgraded my entire system back to warty to get it fixed
[03:34] <airox> djp: fluxbox is nice.
[03:35] <thoreauputic> fade3: wel, at least you have an isdn utility now, that's a step...
[03:35] <edge> warty is upgrading ;-) not a downgrade.
[03:35] <xamdm> Solatis, strang, im running hoary with nvidia, everything fine ..
[03:35] <Solatis> airox: is it playable without sound ?
[03:35] <xamdm> djp: i like xfce4
[03:35] <djp> airox: yeah, i currently have that installed
[03:35] <Solatis> xamdm: myeah, i don't know, it gave a blank screen when nvidia module was loaded under xorg... it was a known problem, just no real fix yet
[03:35] <djp> xamdm: that is the one that i have been reading some good reviews about. it looks nice.
[03:35] <airox> Solatis: Well with sound is better offcourse :)
[03:35] <Solatis> latest version (march 11) not fixed either
[03:35] <fade3> how do u check if there are isdn utilities for a specific country
[03:36] <motuline> default sources.list wont find firestarter.. i guess ill have to find better
[03:36] <fade3> ?
[03:36] <xamdm> does anyone know when xfce4.2 will be in ubuntu ??
[03:36] <Solatis> airox: ah i'll just install it and see :P
[03:36] <chrissturm> who starts hald? dbus-1 ?
[03:36] <membreya> gah, why am I getting unmet dependencies all night :(
[03:36] <Solatis> hmmm i wonder
[03:36] <Solatis> does ubuntu set up sound automagically ?
[03:36] <Solatis> as in, i never took the time to connect speakers to this box
[03:36] <airox> Solatis: hehe
[03:36] <Solatis> but i do have an onboard sound card :P
[03:36] <xamdm> Solatis, for me it did ;-)
[03:36] <Solatis> lemme see
[03:37] <airox> Solatis: For me i had to edit 2 configuration files :)
[03:37] <djp> xamdm: how do u get xfce4 to start by default?
[03:37] <xamdm> djp: i used the os-cilliation installer ;-)
[03:37] <xamdm> djp: in hoary jou can use there deb-packages
[03:38] <djp> xamdm: warty here
[03:38] <xamdm> djp: you use gdm ??
[03:38] <chrissturm> hmm, i have no hal running and i would really like to know why
[03:39] <xamdm> chrissturm, reinstall hal ??
[03:39] <motuline> where i can found good sources.list for ubuntu?
[03:40] <chrissturm> xamdm: we arent in wintendo land here
[03:40] <chrissturm> i want to find out why it doesnt work
[03:40] <chrissturm> where it should be started, why it doesnt run
[03:40] <vieirar> I am using Ubuntu Hoary. I have set up Evolution with gotmail to recieve my hotmail e-mail. I then use sendmail to send the e-mails. Does Hoary have a firewall installed? If not is there a howto for installing one. I know sendmail uses port 25 so I want to allow outbound but no inbound.
[03:40] <bretzel>  -- Hello -- I am thinking of installing freebsd ( 5.3 ) on my actuall celeron 1.7 Kubuntu (server-install only) because that computer IS dedicated home server box. Any one used to freebsd ??
[03:40] <xamdm> chrissturm, warty ore hoary ??
[03:40] <thoreauputic> motuline: just enable universe repository in synaptic
[03:41] <chrissturm> hoary
[03:41] <xamdm> chrissturm, updated from warty ore install from disk ??
[03:41] <thoreauputic> motuline: settings >> repositories >> tick all the boxes
[03:41] <chrissturm> xamdm: updated
[03:41] <thoreauputic> motuline: then hit the reload button
[03:41] <Solatis> hmmm
[03:41] <bretzel> afk - coffee time
[03:41] <Solatis> missing dependency for xmms?
[03:41] <Solatis> lmergen@solatis3:~ $ xmms
[03:41] <Solatis> libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:41] <Solatis> Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/generic/dl-tls.c: 72: _dl_next_tls_modid: Assertion `result <= _rtld_local._dl_tls_max_dtv_idx' failed!
[03:41] <xamdm> chrissturm, that happen to a friend of mine two, something in the updates went wrong, dont't found out why
[03:41] <Solatis> lmergen@solatis3:~ $
[03:42] <chrissturm> is there a logfile that hal writes to?
[03:42] <chrissturm> xamdm: it worked all the time, and now it doesnt work for a week
[03:42] <fade3> anyone know how to mount a mouse on a ubuntu-linux laptop?
[03:42] <thoreauputic> Solatis: sudo apt-get install libmikmod2  I think
[03:42] <Solatis> uhuh
[03:42] <Solatis> already did
[03:42] <Solatis> but it should do it automatically :P
[03:42] <xamdm> chrissturm, oh, kernel-update ??
[03:42] <thoreauputic> Solatis: true
[03:42] <chrissturm> xamdm: possibly
[03:42] <fade3> ?
[03:43] <movi> can someone explain me this behavior: i was doing my fstab so that linux mounts my vfat/ntfs volumes on start
[03:43] <fade3> anyone know how to mount a mouse on a ubuntu-linux laptop?
[03:43] <movi> and gnome 2.10 did a perfect job of including those drives in both the dekstop and "Computer" and as drives in "Places"
[03:43] <airox> fade3: mouse ? :/
[03:43] <movi> those drives were named after the folders they have been mounted top
[03:43] <Solatis> woooohooo
[03:43] <movi> to
[03:43] <thoreauputic> fade3: "mount" a mouse??
[03:43] <Solatis> sound works out of the blue with ubuntu :P
[03:44] <airox> Solatis: Go play the game! :P
[03:44] <fade3> yes airox, a mouse for my laptop
[03:44] <Solatis> haha
[03:44] <xamdm> chrissturm, https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingRemovableDevices here is described hoto log hal
[03:44] <movi> but now, they are like 20G Hard Drive : @0GB Media
[03:44] <Solatis> yes yes
[03:44] <fade3> well, u know...
[03:44] <movi> or 4.2G Hard Drive: 4.2GB Media
[03:44] <fade3> not 'mount'
[03:44] <Solatis> what's the apt package, airox ?
[03:44] <movi> whyyyy?????
[03:44] <fade3> its not picking up my mouse
[03:45] <lunitik> movi: any reason you said that in so many lines?
[03:45] <airox> Solatis: There is none i guess, but it should be very easy to install.
[03:45] <fade3> this is my first cup of linux and its a little weired
[03:45] <thoreauputic> fade3: usb mouse?
[03:45] <Solatis> airox: okies
[03:45] <BleSS> somebody knows some channel about dbus/hal?
[03:45] <fade3> yes
[03:45] <fade3> usb
[03:45] <movi> lunitik: not really
[03:45] <thoreauputic> fade3: hmm - dhould just work, as they say
[03:45] <thoreauputic> *should
[03:46] <Solatis> crap i have to register to a site to download ET
[03:46] <airox> hehe
[03:46] <fade3> hmmm...ok
[03:46] <lunitik> movi: then please don't... just use one line with correct punctuation... this is not an AIM chat room!
[03:46] <Solatis> anyone else has that too, that they really lost the urge to install something when you have to fill in all kind of forms ?
[03:46] <airox> Solatis: It's worth it.
[03:46] <fade3> sorry thorapeutic, its not usb
[03:46] <fade3> its jus a normal dumb ole mousye mouse
[03:47] <fade3> it shows that it has power
[03:47] <thoreauputic> fade3: did you have it plugged in while you were installing?
[03:47] <fade3> installing what?
[03:47] <fade3> the ubuntu os?
[03:47] <thoreauputic> the OS of course
[03:47] <fade3> ah...hmm..no
[03:47] <orospakr> man, has anyon else noticed that GNOME's Same Game looks ghastly now with that white grid and all?
[03:47] <membreya> gmail is a bit silly..once I log in it reverts to an unsecure webpage :|
[03:47] <fade3> is that bad?
[03:47] <thoreauputic> :(
[03:48] <fade3> uh oh..dont give me a sad face mate
[03:48] <thoreauputic> fade3: well, it just makes your life more difficult
[03:48] <vieirar> Nevermind looking on the site it says it doesn't but possible canidates are firestarter which I use on my Gentoo box so I will load it.
[03:48] <fade3> okay thorapeutic, hit me with it
[03:48] <Arago> hello
[03:49] <thoreauputic> fade3: it isn't magic - it probably would have recognised it during the install had it been connected
[03:49] <fade3> yes, I know
[03:49] <thoreauputic> fade3: is it a ps2 mouse?
[03:49] <fade3> yes
[03:49] <Arago> i have applications menu locked: i can't add nothing, via Nautilus or via dx mouse button. I'm using warty. Any idea ?
[03:49] <xamdm> thoreauputic, usb-mice works without problems when connected later ;-)
[03:50] <movi> lunatik: all netiquette problems aside, why is gnome doing this?
[03:50] <fade3> but its not usb xamdm
[03:50] <Solatis> airox: ok downloading :P
[03:50] <airox> Solatis: :)
[03:50] <xamdm> fade3, just joking a bit, maybe a reconfigre xserver-xfree86 will be enough
[03:51] <airox> Anybody knows where to enable netapplet /
[03:51] <airox> ?
[03:51] <fade3> huh? speak newby lanuage to me plaese
[03:51] <thoreauputic> fade3: add to /etc/modules , at the bottom on one line each;  mousedev  psmouse
[03:51] <motuline> weird..
[03:51] <motuline> it wont find firestarter
[03:51] <xamdm> fade3, just a second so that i get the complete command, thoreaputic do you know it ??
[03:52] <fade3> thoreauputic...how?????
[03:52] <thoreauputic> motuline: did you enable universe as I suggested, and reload?
[03:52] <thoreauputic> fade3:  sudo gedit /etc/modules  >> add the two lines >> save and exit
[03:53] <fade3> ok..will do now
[03:53] <thoreauputic> fade3: then reboot and hope
[03:53] <AndyR> i have just upgraded a warty install to hoary using the preview cd but i now see there are 173mb of updates to the preview of hoary
[03:54] <xamdm> fade3: maybe a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, ore xserver-xotg will help
[03:54] <thoreauputic> xamdm: yes, that's true
[03:54] <benjanet> AndyR, must be oppen office and others
[03:54] <Amaranth> AndyR: Yeah, until hoary is considered stable there will be lots of updates.
[03:54] <motuline> ill try enable couple more
[03:55] <thoreauputic> motuline: tick ALL the boxes
[03:55] <fade3> psmouse and mousedev are there already...but at the top of the file
[03:55] <Amaranth> Back if the first month or two of hoary downloading 200MB of updates a day seemed normal. :P
[03:55] <fade3> psmouse and mousedev are there already...but at the top of the file
[03:55] <fade3> psmouse and mousedev are there already...but at the top of the file
[03:55] <fade3> oops
[03:55] <AndyR> Amaranth, i know, ive been running hoary on other boxen for months
[03:55] <fade3> sorry
[03:55] <thoreauputic> fade3: OK that's good
[03:55] <motuline> jeje.. no it works <3
[03:55] <motuline> :))
[03:55] <xamdm> fade3, that sounds good, then try the dpkg-reconfigure...
[03:55] <fade3> so then why its not working?
[03:55] <thoreauputic> fade3: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure cserver-xfree86
[03:55] <thoreauputic> bah
[03:56] <thoreauputic> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[03:56] <xamdm> thoreauputic, typig to fast :-)
[03:56] <motuline> i can skip depencies with command like : dpkg -i --no-depencies package.deb
[03:56] <AndyR> thoreauputic, typing in the dark? :)
[03:56] <motuline> ?
[03:56] <travail101> what kernel patchset does ubuntu use?
[03:56] <travail101> do they roll their own?
[03:56] <thoreauputic> AndyR: I'm the world's worst typist
[03:56] <travail101> can i get it easily somewhere?
[03:56] <kaouete> or are they using the debian one ?
[03:56] <kaouete> :)
[03:56] <travail101> tambien
[03:56] <xamdm> thoreauputic, no, thats me ;-)
[03:56] <travail101> are they using the debian one?
[03:57] <thoreauputic> fade3: accept the deafaults, except the mouse
[03:57] <travail101> can anyone answer this question?
[03:57] <Lemonzest> anyone know if bunty can slow the processor speed? ie AMD C'n'Q and Inter Speed Steep
[03:57] <kaouete> :)
[03:57] <travail101> or suggest their own personal favorite kernel patch-set?
[03:57] <lunitik> travail101: they use there own...
[03:57] <membreya> Lemonzest: yes it does
[03:57] <membreya> it uses processor stepping
[03:57] <thoreauputic> fade3: try to pick the right mouse - ps2 or psaux or something like that
[03:57] <travail101> lunitik, know where I can get it/read about it?
[03:58] <fade3> thorapeutic: it says xserver not installed
[03:58] <membreya> ie my 2.2GHz AMD is currently running at 1GHz
[03:58] <fade3> thorapeutic: it says xserver not installed
[03:58] <fade3> :(
[03:58] <lunitik> travail101: umm... you have it... what exactly do you want to know about it?
[03:58] <lunitik> fade3: hoary?
[03:58] <thoreauputic> fade3: of course it' installed!
[03:58] <fade3> not hoary
[03:58] <fade3> warty
[03:58] <travail101> lunitik, I'm not using ubuntu, but i hear it runs pretty fast, I was wondering what's in the kernel, and if that had anything to do with it
[03:58] <thoreauputic> fade3:  cat /etc/issue  Output?
[03:59] <Solatis> airox: ... installing ... :)
[03:59] <travail101> lunitik, I'm tying to find a new kernel patch-set to claim
[03:59] <lunitik> travail101: its not the kernel... and the compile flags used only present the feel of faster apps...
[03:59] <motuline> if i install fglrx driver with synaptic package manager (fglrx drivers and utilities) does it work?
[04:00] <lunitik> travail101: they load faster in most cases, so the OS is deemed to actually be faster...
[04:00] <travail101> lunitik, where can I see the Ubuntu CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS then?
[04:00] <travail101> lunitik, does ubuntu prelink?
[04:01] <travail101> lunitik, oh and most importantly, do they use the same C(XX)FLAGS for all packages or does it depend on the package in question?
[04:01] <travail101> lunitik, is the becoming a question for #ubuntu-devel?
[04:02] <Arago> i have applications menu locked: i can't add nothing, by Nautilus or by dx mouse button. I'm using warty. Any idea ?
[04:03] <Solatis> airox: ... and connecting to a server :)
[04:03] <Solatis> wow, i'm amazed
[04:03] <Solatis> could it be that linux gaming is finally becoming mature ?
[04:03] <Solatis> everything works without crashing or anything
[04:04] <Thom_Holwerda> mmm anyone else having troubles with cmedia 8739 based soundcards?
[04:04] <Thom_Holwerda> 8738*
[04:10] <membreya> hope you're happy thoreauputic, gmailfs won't install for me :P
[04:10] <thoreauputic> membreya: I weep for you, my son ;)
[04:11] <membreya> I'm young enough to be :P
[04:11] <kutucape> hi all
[04:11] <dwa_> anybody here using a dual display setup?
[04:11] <membreya> dwa_: I've been using twinview :)
[04:12] <dwa_> ke :)
[04:12] <membreya> it works fine, except programs wanting to open on random displays :P
[04:12] <dwa_> i've got a question: if i place a program on my second display i don't it to appear on my panel on the first display
[04:13] <membreya> stretch the panel then
[04:13] <dwa_> tip membreya : the program opens on the display where your cursor is
[04:13] <dwa_> that's not what i mean, the panel has to be on display #1
[04:13] <membreya> oooh :)
[04:13] <membreya> hrm
[04:13] <dwa_> hehe :)
[04:14] <membreya> so you only want your gnome-panel to be on display #1, but you want to open programs without seeing them being open on panel 1?
[04:14] <membreya> erm display 1 even
[04:14] <dwa_> yes that's what i mean
[04:15] <membreya> just hide the panel dwa_ :P
[04:16] <dwa_> hehe
[04:16] <dwa_> that's not an option i think
[04:17] <motuline> xmms crashes when i try to play mp3:s
[04:17] <membreya> sure it is :P right click on the panel and select autohide :P
[04:17] <dwa_> but i don't know a way to install different panels for the 2 displays
[04:17] <dwa_> how do you manage your displays?
[04:18] <membreya> i don't, I just use twinview in xorg.conf
[04:18] <dwa_> motuline: start xmms and select a different output driver
[04:18] <motuline> ok
[04:18] <dwa_> rightclick xmms -> options -> preferences
[04:18] <motuline> i know
[04:19] <motuline> but now its crashed ^^..
[04:19] <dwa_> ok :)
[04:19] <motuline> need reboot i guess.. it wont go away :p
[04:19] <dwa_> strange
[04:19] <avigail> is there anyone here who can advise me on what desktop to use with ubuntu? kde or gnome?
[04:19] <dwa_> it crashes when you open it?
[04:19] <motuline> nope
[04:19] <dwa_> avigail : use gnome
[04:19] <dwa_> it's the default
[04:19] <motuline> when i click play
[04:19] <dwa_> start it first and then change the output driver
[04:20] <dwa_> then click play
[04:20] <travail101> avigail, what exaclty is it you're looking for? most of the Gnome vs KDE thing is just personal preference, install them both and decide for yourself
[04:20] <motuline> well.. it freezes
[04:20] <dwa_> mmm
[04:20] <motuline> xmms is still open but it is stuck
[04:20] <dwa_> even if you want to change the settings?
[04:20] <dwa_> ok
[04:20] <motuline> ill try reboot
[04:20] <dwa_> open a console and type: killall xmms
[04:21] <avigail> i did install them both, Kde looks nicer, however i feel that things got screwed up cos of kde, possible?
[04:21] <motuline> it worked
[04:21] <motuline> nice
[04:22] <travail101> avigail, I spose anything is possible... it may be that Ubuntu is geared towards Gnome, and that they haven't put a lot of work into getting KDE to play right
[04:23] <motuline> i think that ubuntus sounds block my soundcard.. becouse xmms says that its blocked
[04:25] <motuline> it says : Please Check That: Your soundcard if configured properly. (I thing it is because i can heard ubuntus sounds) You have the correct output plugin (alsa) no other program is blockin you soundcard.. i guess that some program is blocking it? :/
[04:25] <dwa_> have you tried the esd driver motuline ?
[04:26] <dwa_> it's called esound in xmms
[04:26] <motuline> je
[04:26] <motuline> it works
[04:26] <motuline> thx
[04:26] <motuline> im used to use alsa in fc
[04:26] <motuline> :)
[04:26] <xamdm> motuline, did jou try beep-media-player ??, its xmms in gtks...
[04:27] <chrissturm> or even better muine. that player rocks
[04:27] <dwa_> muine rules but you have to have a well organized music library
[04:28] <motuline> if some program is using esd can some program use alsa that i can use more than 1 sound device in the same time
[04:31] <CarinArr> what's the best way to stop x?
[04:31] <lunitik> CarinArr: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:31] <dwa_> stop or restart?
[04:31] <CarinArr> stop completely, i need to install the nvidia drivers and they won't isntall while x is running
[04:31] <dwa_> motuline : that depends if you have hardware/software mixing enabled
[04:32] <jouke> #nederlands
[04:32] <superted> when is the last chance to submit translations?
[04:32] <CarinArr> weird.. i tried  /etc/init.d/gdm stop before and it didn't work.. seems to now though
[04:32] <CarinArr> must've done something weird the first time
[04:32] <CarinArr> thanks
[04:32] <lunitik> motuline: esd occupies /dev/dsp ... no other application can use /dev/dsp, so you must use esd for everything, or get no sound
[04:33] <lunitik> motuline: /dev/dsp = the sound device.
[04:33] <motuline> ok
[04:34] <motuline> ati drivers (fglrx) will work if i install them using synaptic package manager?
[04:34] <lunitik> motuline: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:34] <rotundo> can someone help me with sound in hoary?  Everything appears to be working fine, but I hear nothing....
[04:34] <movi> where in gnome 2.10 do i select what kind of things should appear on the desktop and what not (like Mounted drives, removable drives, SMB shares etc)
[04:35] <lunitik> rotundo: /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[04:36] <xamdm> rotundo, try alsamixer, sometimes everythings gets muted ..
[04:36] <kent> movi, system tools -> gconf (its not called gconf, its something like config editor or something. Its the red icon).
[04:37] <kent> movi, when you have started that program, go to Apps->Nautilus->Desktop
[04:37] <movi> kent: thank you
[04:38] <ikaro> hellas
[04:38] <rotundo> alsa restart says ok but I still hear nothing
[04:38] <rotundo> alsamixer looks good
[04:38] <thefish> is there a deb available for the nvidia drivers?
[04:38] <xamdm> rotundo, which soundcard are you using ??
[04:38] <Nermal> thefish, nvidia drivers are in universe I thin
[04:38] <Nermal> or multiverse
[04:38] <lunitik> thefish: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:39] <rotundo> VIA 8235
[04:39] <thefish> thanks
[04:39] <ogra> Nermal: restricted ;)
[04:39] <xamdm> thefish, just install restricted modules and nvidida-kernel-common and nvidia-glx, needs universe
[04:39] <thefish> i have just tried the live CD - very impressed!
[04:39] <Nermal> ogra, got there in the end :)
[04:39] <lunitik> rotundo: no idea then... upgrade from warty? seems to be an issue for a lot of people.
[04:39] <ogra> :)
[04:39] <xamdm> rotundo, everything connected ??
[04:40] <rotundo> Yeah it was an upgrade from warty.... worked ok at first and then it stopped working... - and yes everything is conencted I checked all that and the bios before coming here :)
[04:40] <xamdm> rotundo, cant't test have an other soundcard :-(
[04:41] <rotundo> if I go to the MM Sytems selector and choose alsa it says "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'"
[04:41] <xamdm> knows anyone a gnome-gui for lineakd ??
[04:42] <lunitik> rotundo: you want that to say esd
[04:42] <ssam> are post script file really dangerous? nautilus is warning to only open one if i know where it came from
[04:42] <rotundo> lunitik: thats what I thought... but since I was hearing nothing, I thought I would try
[04:42] <movi> how do i change the default application for filetypes like .png jpg and gif
[04:42] <lunitik> rotundo: enless you have a high end audio card, don't use alsa on its own.
[04:43] <jesus\> is there a way to upgrade the whole system?
[04:43] <jesus\> I started with hoary 3 weeks ago or so, but a lot is broken
[04:43] <jesus\> and downgrading would be stupid, it's almost going stable
[04:43] <xamdm> jesus\, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:44] <occy> w00p
[04:44] <occy> running hoary
[04:44] <occy> heh
[04:44] <olu> whats the extra options in custom-expert instead of custom?
[04:44] <motuline> hmm.. synaptic package installers is kind of goood :)=
[04:44] <lunitik> occy: most have been for a while
[04:44] <occy> I got scared when I noticed pcmcia wasn't working before the reboot.
[04:44] <lunitik> olu: don't use it
[04:44] <occy> lunitik: Did that comment make you feel better?
[04:44] <olu> lunitik: why?
[04:44] <gangalino> I have a DVD+RW that shows up as a /dev/sr0 and is readonly, how do I get it to work as a CD-writer?
[04:45] <lunitik> occy: what?
[04:45] <airox> What do I need to do to start mail-notification in the gnome iconbar (correct word for it?)
[04:45] <lunitik> olu: confusing for most...
[04:45] <occy> lunitik: Go listen (read) the lyrics to an old Cure song.  "Jumping someone else's train".
[04:45] <Bubbling_Zombie> olu, you get a lot of extra options :)
[04:45] <olu> okey, will use custom then
[04:45] <occy> lunitik: "If you pick, up on it quick, you can say you were there..."
[04:45] <occy> lunitik: you can say you were there.
[04:46] <olu> Bubbling_Zombie: like what?
[04:46] <lunitik> occy: no thanks...   Someone actually asked permission to use that on their bands cover art.  I was like, "Sure man, go for it!"
[04:50] <LordGrunt> in mc, under /dev there is dsp, but it has - beside
[04:51] <thefish> i used debian ages ago, so there are similarities i guess
[04:51] <Bubbling_Zombie> i do my editting manually, that's what you get when you start using slackware and switch to ubuntu afterwards :]
[04:51] <ssam> movi, right click and go to properties
[04:51] <ssam> movi, then go to the open with tab
[04:52] <occy> Nermal: check:  occy.net/gallery/   There are some more pics there.
[04:53] <gangalino> any dvd-writer or cd-writer users with Warty out there?
[04:54] <Nermal> gangalino, use nautilus cd burner ?
[04:54] <szaz> NEED SOME NET CARD HELP...
[04:54] <Nermal> szaz, gl
[04:54] <airox> szaz: Sorry, say that again please.
[04:54] <szaz> I have an Allied Telesyn net card
[04:54] <gangalino> Nermal: I'm having problems getting my dvd+Rw to show up as a writable device
[04:55] <Nermal> ah :|
[04:55] <szaz> which apparently uses a Realtek chipset
[04:55] <thefish> how do you turn on/off services for booting?
[04:55] <thoreauputic> gangalino: yes >> http://people.debian.org/~goedson/packages/ubuntu/warty/gnomebaker/releases/i386/
[04:55] <airox> thefish: Remove the symlinks in /etc/rc2.d
[04:55] <szaz> There appears to be a driver available that might do the trick - ne2k_pci
[04:55] <thefish> bugger
[04:55] <szaz> However - I have no idea how to install it
[04:55] <Bubbling_Zombie> or make them non executable thefish
[04:55] <szaz> The card is not reacognised at install time
[04:56] <thefish> there is a cool way to do it in some other distros,`chkconfig --level 35 apache` for example
[04:56] <szaz> Can someone explain how to install the driver module - I assume it is present on the install CD
[04:56] <thefish> anything similar?
[04:57] <Nermal> szaz, boot with pci=noacpi noapic ?
[04:57] <Nermal> that driver will already be there.. modprobe ne2k_pci
[04:57] <IRCsloth> if I add a path to /etc/profile is there a way to 'rehash' my path in bash without re-logging in?
[04:58] <lunitik> thefish: there is rcconf which easy to use... apt-get install it... or update-rc.d ...
[04:58] <Nermal> IRCsloth, source /etc/profile ?
[04:58] <IRCsloth> thanks
[04:58] <Nermal> I think ;)
[04:58] <Nermal> best do an export just to check
[04:59] <szaz> how do I "boot with pci=noacpi noacpi?"
[04:59] <szaz> I'm basically a linux newbie
[05:00] <Nermal> argh
[05:00] <Nermal> thats like telling a hot date you have trouble getting it up
[05:00] <airox> szaz: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:00] <Nermal> it makes people immediately think "oh god.. this could take a while, and run for the hills"
[05:01] <szaz> hey man! I'm not THAT bad
[05:01] <Nermal> :)
[05:01] <szaz> tell me once - I won't need to ask again
[05:02] <Nermal> at the grub boot menu, hit "e" to edit the kernel line, add pci=noacpi noapic to the end then hit enter, and then "b" to boot it
[05:02] <szaz> cheers man
[05:02] <szaz> may I ask what that does?
[05:02] <Bubbling_Zombie> how are the new nvidia drivers for hoary?
[05:03] <Nermal> turns off acpi for pci irq routing and also disables the advanced programmable interrupt controller which can be buggy on some motherboards
[05:03] <Nermal> can cause hardware not to appear
[05:03] <Nermal> if that doesn't work
[05:04] <Nermal> try doing sudo modprobe ne2k_pci and then typing dmesg and seeing what it says at the bottom
[05:04] <szaz> ok..will do
[05:04] <szaz> you should be a teacher dude!
[05:05] <Nermal> don't have the patience,.. I would write "RTFM" on the board and walk out
[05:05] <Nermal> :)
[05:05] <szaz> ha!
[05:05] <thefish> lunitik, that sounds good, i will have to install though - i only have a liveCD
[05:06] <Nermal> szaz, I learnt the pci=noacpi trick when I worked for suse
[05:06] <Nermal> with early 2.6 kernels and late 2.4 ones it solved a lot of hardware issues
[05:06] <midget> hi
[05:06] <Nermal> midget, tried damn small linux ?
[05:06] <Nermal> sorry, too much coffee :\
[05:07] <midget> u guessed im small lol
[05:07] <membreya> hey Nermal :)
[05:07] <Nermal> lo membreya :)_
[05:07] <membreya> bit of drool there buddy?
[05:07] <thefish> Nermal, from nermal.org?
[05:07] <Echylo> hey membreya :-)
[05:07] <Nermal> uhhh... yes ?
[05:07] <midget> hi mebreya
[05:07] <thefish> thought you were still with suse
[05:08] <thefish> nice site btw
[05:08] <midget> hello does any one talk to me
[05:08] <Nermal> nah.. I worked there on my year out from uni, and left in september 2003 and they got bought up in november.  Worked for them over xmas and easter at the new novell building, but didn't get a employed when I left uni
[05:08] <midget> hi bubbling zombie
[05:08] <thefish> k
[05:08] <Nermal> thefish, working on a beta atm :)
[05:08] <midget> coo
[05:08] <Bubbling_Zombie> 'llo
[05:09] <thefish> ok, /me didnt get beta :'(
[05:09] <midget> lol
[05:09] <thefish> so you helping with suse and ubuntu?
[05:09] <midget> any one like splintercell?
[05:09] <midget> pandors tommorow
[05:10] <midget> *pandora*
[05:10] <Nermal> thefish, uh.. well.. I help out in both on irc ;)
[05:10] <thefish> ;)
[05:10] <Nermal> I'm also in the SUSE 9 bible that's just come out :)
[05:10] <thefish> kewl, help writing?
[05:10] <midget> anyone like scpt
[05:10] <Bubbling_Zombie> midget, crashes like hell on my windows box :p
[05:10] <midget> :p
[05:11] <Nermal> not quite, did some technical editing
[05:11] <membreya> oh, you're an oracle..you can help me with my problem then :P
[05:11] <thefish> nice
[05:11] <thefish> ive just checked out ubuntu for the first time today - got the live disk
[05:11] <thefish> very sexy
[05:12] <dazed> hey wahts a good partitioner...i got partition magic but the demo wont let me save any changes?
[05:12] <midget> bubbling zombie just spilled crap over ma monatoe lol
[05:12] <midget> *monitor*
[05:12] <Nermal> thefish, warty or hoary ?
[05:12] <midget> lol
[05:12] <Nermal> dazed, gparted :P
[05:12] <Echylo> hmm
[05:12] <Bubbling_Zombie> lol :p
[05:12] <membreya> cmon nermal..help me :P
[05:12] <Bubbling_Zombie> happens here allt he time
[05:12] <Echylo> anyone recognizes this game? http://saphatorael.250free.com/Quizachtigding.jpg
[05:12] <Bubbling_Zombie> oh well
[05:13] <Nermal> membreya, ?
[05:13] <midget> no i dont?
[05:13] <garrut> doe anyone here have a good alternative for gkrellm?
[05:13] <dazed> Nermal: just google for it?
[05:13] <Nermal> garrut, gdesklets ?
[05:13] <Bubbling_Zombie> <- afk
[05:13] <thefish> Nermal, hoary i think 5.X
[05:13] <thefish> the beta-ish one with gnome .10
[05:13] <xamdm> dazed, qtparted ore gparted ;-)
[05:13] <thefish> hehehe
[05:14] <membreya> Nermal: running kernel 2.6.11 and trying to install the latest nvidia drivers, but its giving me the error message of kernel-source not found
[05:14] <garrut> nermal, i usually can't get gdesklets to work the way i want to :)
[05:14] <dazed> thefish: so do are u liking the ubuntu life?
[05:14] <Nermal> membreya, install the kernel source ? :)
[05:14] <thefish> dazed, so far it seems nice
[05:14] <midget> yo szaz
[05:14] <thefish> i will install it on a test box tonight i think
[05:14] <szaz> apologies - I just had a ****ing power cut
[05:14] <membreya> I currently have linux-doc-2.6.11, linux-headers-2.6.11-1-amd64-k8, linux-source-2.6.11, linux-tree-2.6.11, linux-image-2.6.11-1-amd64-k8, linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.11 all installed
[05:14] <szaz> ridiculous
[05:14] <midget> lots o people joining lol
[05:15] <Nermal> membreya, right.. one sec
[05:15] <vixus> Help me... this is an emergency.
[05:15] <thefish> ye, you need to be on the ball to keep up
[05:15] <midget> anyone played fifa street??????????????????
[05:15] <airox> Well.. the number off people over here is definitely increasing :)
[05:15] <dazed> i completely switched over to ubu on my pc and im tri-booting my laptop haha
[05:15] <Echy|study> almost exams
[05:15] <blueturtle> heya
[05:15] <Echy|study> damned
[05:15] <Nermal> membreya, you won't need the linux-source for compiling kernel modules against, just the headers
[05:15] <szaz> nermal - what did I have to type in GRUB
[05:15] <thefish> dazed, i run suse on my laptop, and its sweet - but im liking ubuntu
[05:15] <Nermal> so remove the the kernel source for simplicy
[05:15] <vixus> Since my botched upgrade to hoary yesterday GDM won't work (as nVidia is broken
[05:15] <szaz> pci=noacpi noacpi
[05:15] <airox> Echy|study: There is a /away function in irc :)
[05:15] <membreya> that's what I thought, but I wanted to be sure
[05:16] <vixus> Also, I can no longer boot to WinXP
[05:16] <Nermal> at the grub boot menu, hit "e" to edit the kernel line, add pci=noacpi noapic to the end then hit enter, and then "b" to boot it
[05:16] <Echy|study> I know
[05:16] <Echy|study> I prefer this
[05:16] <airox> Use it.
[05:16] <szaz> cheers man
[05:16] <vixus> Help me please.
[05:16] <Echylo> better?
[05:16] <blueturtle> thefish - suse is ok, but i really prefer gnome to kde :/
[05:16] <vixus> Anyone at all.
[05:16] <thefish> vixus, nvidia will break with kernel upgrades
[05:16] <airox> Echylo: damn you :P
[05:16] <Nermal> membreya, basically the kernel-headers have to match the kernel given when you do uname -a
[05:16] <vixus> thefish: How do I fix this problem?
[05:16] <Echylo> what?
[05:16] <dazed> thefish: yeah i tried suse first and switched to ubu after just testing it out for a day
[05:16] <thefish> blueturtle, me too definately
[05:16] <vixus> I need to fix this somehow.
[05:16] <garrut> vixus, reinstall nvidia drivers
[05:16] <vixus> How do I get GDM back?
[05:16] <vixus> oh
[05:16] <airox> Echylo: Imagine everyone shouting his or her status over here...
[05:17] <dazed> i have slax on the lap and winblows and im putting ubu on today
[05:17] <Echylo> hungry!
[05:17] <thefish> vixus, you should be able to reinstall the nvidia driver
[05:17] <vixus> garrut: I need the command-line as I have no access to the internet
[05:17] <Echylo> thirsty
[05:17] <Echylo> bored!
[05:17] <Echylo> yea that would be irritating
[05:17] <vixus> garrut: Or rather, what to apt-get
[05:17] <Nermal> behold the irc /ignore command :)
[05:17] <membreya> kernel headers are for amd-k8 2.6.11 ...and uname -a gives 2.6.11-1-amd64-k8
[05:17] <Nermal> hum
[05:17] <airox> Nermal: I don't want to ignore Echylo :)
[05:17] <garrut> vixus, just run the nvidia installer
[05:17] <vixus> garrut: ...How do I get it?
[05:17] <Echylo> ... any
[05:18] <vixus> dir
[05:18] <Echylo> nvm bye
[05:18] <thefish> there are some really sweet things on suse that i will need to discover on ubu tho - chkconfig, rcSERVICE {start|stop|status} etc
[05:18] <garrut> from nvidia.com?
[05:18] <vixus> doesn't show anything.
[05:18] <Nermal> membreya, apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6-amd64-k8
[05:18] <vixus> garrut: I can't get onto the net... I'm stuck on command line here.
[05:18] <thefish> maybe you have it on your computer already: `find / -name *nvidia*`
[05:18] <Nermal> membreya, but remove the kernel source first
[05:18] <dazed> btw guys i need a partitioner for windows...lol...cuz whenever i try to partition on any platform other then blows it says my windows has been improperly shutdown cannot do anything
[05:18] <Nermal> and check the symlink in /usr/src
[05:18] <vixus> thefish: Ok, but I'll have to exit irssi, no?
[05:18] <blueturtle> dazed : to partition your hard drive is it?
[05:19] <thefish> no
[05:19] <vixus> thefish: =o do tell.
[05:19] <cocacola> OMGLOL GOTHS
[05:19] <thefish> vixus, just run on another console
[05:19] <vixus> thefish: How?
[05:19] <dazed> blueturtle: ye
[05:19] <dazed> s
[05:19] <Nermal> vixus, apt-get install nvidia-glx ?
[05:19] <vixus> thefish: I am newish to linux, sorry.
[05:19] <membreya> so take out source and tree Nermal ?
[05:19] <Nermal> the archives will be in /var/apt/cache
[05:19] <vixus> Nermal: I think that's it!
[05:19] <Nermal> membreya, yes
[05:19] <blueturtle> dazed : http://www.sysresccd.org/    If you burn that to a CD, and run the CD when you boot up, it will help you
[05:19] <thefish> vixus, im new to ubu - so forgive if i get it a bit wrong
[05:19] <vixus> thefish: No problem.
[05:20] <blueturtle> it contains a program called qt_parted, a clone of Partition Magic that makes it easy to partition hard drives
[05:20] <membreya> Nermal: it's adding old headers as well :|
[05:20] <dazed> blueturtle...i have 1000's of live discs
[05:20] <vixus> thefish: Just tell me how to get into another console :o
[05:20] <dazed> lol
[05:20] <Nermal> membreya, :|
[05:20] <thefish> vixus, you should be able to get other terminals with CTRL+ALT+F1 or F2 or F3 etc
[05:20] <dazed> i just want to know a good FREE partitioner for windows
[05:20] <Nermal> vixus, alt-F<number>
[05:20] <blueturtle> it's not a live cd
[05:20] <Nermal> dazed, good luck..
[05:20] <vixus> cool
[05:20] <thefish> vixus, then to get back, just CTRL+ALT+F7 for graphical, F1? for text
[05:20] <membreya> Nermal: it's grabbing kernel-headers-2.6-amd64-k8 kernel-headers-2.6.8-9
[05:20] <membreya>   kernel-headers-2.6.8-9-amd64-k8 kernel-kbuild-2.6-3
[05:20] <membreya>  as well
[05:20] <blueturtle> it contains a number of tools, one of which is qt_parted,, which will do what you want
[05:20] <dazed> Nermal: lol i know
[05:21] <dazed> stupid windows everything costs money
[05:21] <thefish> whoa busy channel
[05:21] <thefish> hehe
[05:21] <Nermal> membreya, I think  kernel-headers-2.6-amd64-k8 is a virtual package that just links to the latest version
[05:21] <membreya> very thefish :)
[05:21] <vixus> Nermal: I think it's done... should I press something now? ^^
[05:21] <membreya> ok :) will try at the next ad (dilbert is on with tvtime :P)
[05:21] <Nermal> bear in mind I've only been using ubuntu for a few months
[05:21] <vixus> thefish: Thanks
[05:21] <blueturtle> i was able to partition Windows fine with that SystemRescueCD
[05:21] <thefish> vixus, noproblemo - glad to help
[05:22] <dazed> Blueturtle: i have slackware on this laptop with qtparted i have a knoppix live disc with qtparted i have a ubu disc with a partition manager...i need one for windows cuz when ever i try to partition on another platform it says my windows has been improperly shutdown and cannot continue....trust me i know what i need :)
[05:22] <midget> im back
[05:22] <Nermal> yay!
[05:22] <midget> ???
[05:23] <midget> yo lano
[05:23] <blueturtle> strange
[05:23] <Lano> yo
[05:23] <midget> whats strange?
[05:23] <dazed> not strange...considering windows SUCKS
[05:23] <midget> lol
[05:23] <blueturtle> have you tried defragmenting the drive ?
[05:23] <dazed> i expect nothing less then silly errors like that
[05:23] <Nermal> dazed, so use the whole fscking hdd
[05:24] <blueturtle> i had to defrag before partitioning
[05:24] <dazed> i defragment once a month
[05:24] <blueturtle> hmm
[05:24] <midget> get spywere
[05:24] <dazed> lol but i need windows for stupid school stuff
[05:24] <midget> lol
[05:24] <Nermal> "it's that time of the month again" :P
[05:24] <airox> Would be wonderfull to see windows xp live cd's :P
[05:24] <Nermal> dazed, like what ?
[05:24] <gangalino> anyone had problems getting Totem to run? whenever I launch it, I get "Totem could not startup. Failed to create a GStreamer play object."
[05:25] <Nermal> gangalino, tried running gst-register ?
[05:25] <midget> press ctrl+alt and delete
[05:25] <dazed> Nermal: im in a computer class which is strictly Microsoft office related...and i have lots of projects to do on it
[05:25] <membreya> Nermal: ..if you weren't a dude I would kiss you!
[05:25] <Nermal> airox, we have winxp dead cds - they're called linux installation cds
[05:25] <gangalino> Nermal: no, what does that do?
[05:25] <thefish> dazed, are you on an MS office course?
[05:25] <vixus> Nope
[05:25] <vixus> didn't work.
[05:26] <vixus> X still won't start
[05:26] <blueturtle> mneh, office
[05:26] <Nermal> gangalino, rebuilds the gst registry - finds all the gstreamer plugins basically
[05:26] <dazed> thefish: yes
[05:26] <vixus> This sucks ;_;
[05:26] <Nermal> I _think_
[05:26] <Lano> ok, question: what is easiest way /apt get? to upgrade to Hoary Hedgehog
[05:26] <Nermal> dazed, openoffice
[05:26] <dazed> if they had an open office course id so bee in that
[05:26] <dazed> lol
[05:26] <membreya> hmm amd64 3200, 512mb DDR400, geforcemx4000...and I get 450fps on glxgears :P
[05:26] <vixus> thefish: Help!
[05:26] <dazed> does open office have exactly everything that MS Office does?
[05:26] <gangalino> Nermal: where is the command?
[05:26] <thefish> vixus, whats happening?
[05:27] <Nermal> Lano, switch warty to hoary on every line in /etc/apt/sources.list and then do an apt-get update
[05:27] <vixus> thefish: X won't start...
[05:27] <thefish> vixus, did you run that command
[05:27] <thefish> ?
[05:27] <Nermal> do the dist-upgrade with aptitude though
[05:27] <vixus> thefish: and I can't view output, cause it asks for ubuntu login
[05:27] <dazed> and i also write webpages on dreamweaver and i know this is silly but im too lazy to write code by hand does open office have a html editor?
[05:27] <vixus> thefish: Which command?
[05:27] <Nermal> dazed, no.. it doesn't have clippy or half the bugs
[05:27] <Lano> Nermal: I'll try
[05:27] <blueturtle> dazed : as far as i can see, yes. it can also read and create MS Word documents
[05:27] <thefish> vixus, are you logged into the box now?
[05:27] <Nermal> dazed, install nvu - nvu.com
[05:27] <vixus> Yes
[05:27] <dazed> Nermal: lol but i NEED CLIPPY
[05:27] <blueturtle> impress can read / create Powerpoint too
[05:27] <motuline> wtf.. there is microsoft in firestarter hit list :D
[05:28] <thefish> vixus, and you have a login screen?
[05:28] <vixus> thefish: Text-only...
[05:28] <vixus> thefish: I am on irssi.
[05:28] <thefish> vixus, thats fine... log in
[05:28] <dazed> blueturtle: its not that i need to turn in MS word documents...we actually do live projects in the class thats why its on my laptop
[05:28] <vixus> thefish: I am logged in..
[05:28] <blueturtle> a pity
[05:28] <membreya> thankyou again Nermal ...it works perfectly now :)
[05:28] <vixus> thefish: Text-based irc client
[05:28] <Nermal> membreya, np
[05:28] <thefish> aah
[05:28] <vixus> thefish: Thank god for it.
[05:28] <Nermal> membreya, it should keep the headers up to date too
[05:28] <vixus> thefish: What do I do?
[05:29] <vixus> :(
[05:29] <membreya> except what seems to be a low fps with glxgears :)
[05:29] <thefish> vixus, you must look for the nvidia installer again: find / -name *nvidia*
[05:29] <blueturtle> dazed : openoffice does have a html editor but i'd imagine it has some work to do before being up with the likes of Dreamweaver
[05:29] <dazed> 6.2 gigs enough for an ubu installl?
[05:29] <dazed> lol yeah i just love dreamweaver
[05:29] <membreya> dazed: 6.2 is excessive :P
[05:29] <dazed> been working on it since i was like 10
[05:29] <blueturtle> it is handy alright for the initial design phase
[05:29] <membreya> so about 2 years dazed ? :P
[05:29] <thefish> vixus, once you find it (it will probably end in .sh) type in the filename here
[05:29] <dazed> membreya: lol how much u think i should use?>
[05:29] <blueturtle> but it's not a good enough code editor for server side scripting..
[05:30] <dazed> hahah well 8
[05:30] <vixus> thefish: LonglLong lis of stuff
[05:30] <Nermal> membreya, if you install  kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k8 (another virtual package) it should keep your kernel in sync with your headers too
[05:30] <vixus> thefish: And an X window just opened up, anoyingly.
[05:30] <vixus> thefish: Not an X window... an X message.
[05:30] <thefish> an x message?
[05:30] <dazed> can i defrag from knoppix live blueturtle?
[05:30] <membreya> dazed: my install is 2.2gb
[05:30] <Nermal> vixus, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:30] <blueturtle> umm, not sure
[05:30] <vixus> thefish: Yeah, but it disappeared.
[05:31] <gangalino> Nermal: I don't have gst-register
[05:31] <vixus> Nermal: Didn't work.
[05:31] <Nermal> gangalino, hum
[05:31] <cowbud> uhh defragging is for the birds..
[05:31] <vixus> Nermal: I did that.
[05:31] <Nermal> vixus, and the error message is ?
[05:31] <dazed> yeah but the rest of my HD is ntfs membreya not ext3
[05:31] <thefish> vixus, check out what Nermal just said
[05:31] <Nermal> and the X logs are where ?
[05:31] <thefish> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:31] <dazed> well another 10 has slax on it
[05:31] <dazed> but
[05:31] <dazed> thats seperate
[05:31] <vixus> Nermal: Some error about Mozilla Firefox, but that was happening before
[05:31] <Nermal> BE MORE SPECIFIC
[05:31] <membreya> dazed: /dev/sda3             4.7G  2.2G  2.6G  46% /
[05:31] <membreya> /dev/sda6              87G   49G   39G  56% /media/downloads
[05:31] <membreya> /dev/sda1              21G  6.3G   14G  32% /media/temp
[05:31] <kaouete> to upgrade from warty to hoary is the same than installing hoary directly ? is there little differences that are done at install ?
[05:31] <membreya> :)
[05:32] <Nermal> "houston we have a problem" "go ahead aquarius" "oh.. some error about an oxygen tank..."
 I wish I could copy and paste.
[05:33] <szaz> Nermal: adding the line to GRUB does not appear to have helped
[05:33] <membreya> dazed: my / and downloads are reiserfs, my temp mount is ntfs...going to make my new 200gb entirely reiserfs for downloads
[05:33] <dazed> lol i irc'd throug 2 midterms couple weeks ago
[05:33] <krischan> Greetings.
[05:33] <blueturtle> i know, my project isn't even finished and i have 30 odd pages of writing to do. What do I do? Come here.
[05:33] <szaz> still no sign of the net card
[05:33] <Nermal> szaz, tried the modprobe ?
[05:33] <thefish> vixus, did you run that command?
[05:33] <Nermal> do lspci as well
[05:33] <dazed> membreya: reiserfs?
[05:33] <szaz> I assume it would ba available as an option in Desktop/Admin/Networking?
[05:33] <Nermal> see what it says for the net card
[05:34] <Nermal> szaz, something like 0000:02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM/CA/CAM Ethernet Controller (rev 03)
[05:34] <szaz> nope not tried modprobe - lost power to the computer before I wrote it down
[05:34] <titoxx69> hi
[05:34] <Nermal> ah..
[05:34] <membreya> different type of fs dazed, allows journalling but it access faster (mainly designed for large files)
[05:34] <Nermal> do lspci first
[05:34] <szaz> lspci?
[05:34] <krischan> I'd like to know how I can install alternate mouse cursor themes? I know I have to copy them somewhere in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/..., but I don't know further.
[05:34] <Nermal> and maybe a dmesg |grep -i eth0
[05:34] <vixus> thefish / Nermal: I did some cleaning... and tried apt-get install nvidia-glx again
[05:34] <vixus> it seems to be going somewhere
[05:34] <vixus> in fact, its done!
[05:34] <Nermal> krischan, easy way - apt-get install gcursor
[05:35] <dazed> membreya: ohh ok...gotcha
[05:35] <thefish> vixus, groovy
[05:35] <vixus> thefish: How do I go graphical again?
[05:35] <Nermal> gives you a little tool in the gnome preferences menu to do it :)
[05:35] <kotatsu> is kickstart planned to work in hoary? all I've found is a month old wiki page that says it's not available yet
[05:35] <thefish> vixus, there is a quicker way, but i dont know it - reboot
[05:35] <Nermal> vixus, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?
[05:35] <thefish> vixus, i suppose you could try: startx
[05:35] <membreya> dazed: http://www.namesys.com/v4/v4.html
[05:36] <szaz> back in 10 - I hate sharing one monitor with 2 machines
[05:36] <krischan> Nermal: Thank you very much!
[05:36] <dazed> god i wish i didnt have to goto psychology today
[05:36] <dazed> i want to make otday a compputer day
[05:36] <dwa_> then don't go
[05:36] <dwa_> easy as pie
[05:36] <dazed> qui
[05:36] <dazed> z
[05:36] <dwa_> so?
[05:36] <membreya> dazed: do your thesis on computers and the impact on social interaction :)
[05:36] <dazed> then test on wednesday
[05:36] <dazed> i gots to go
[05:36] <dazed> its ok after psychology im done
[05:36] <szaz> lspci
[05:37] <thefish> Nermal, is nvidia-glx an nvidia installer?
[05:37] <dwa_> look at it from the bright side: you get some fresh air
[05:37] <dazed> lol membreya: more specifically the lifestyle of linu
[05:37] <Nermal> szaz, look for the ethernet card
[05:37] <dazed> x
[05:37] <dazed> lol dwa_
[05:37] <membreya> :P
[05:37] <blueturtle> fantastic
[05:37] <blueturtle> :)
[05:37] <Nermal> thefish, half of it.. nvidia-glx are the x libs, nvidia-kernel is the kernel module
[05:37] <Nermal> but they should depend on one another
[05:37] <motuline> argh.. opera crashes when i try to play java games etc..
[05:37] <membreya> hmmm does nvidia have a control panel for gnome ?
[05:37] <thefish> Nermal, does nvidia-kernel depend on kernel source?
[05:37] <vixus> Nermal: Nope.
[05:38] <Nermal> membreya, yeah .. a gtk2 one
[05:38] <vixus> thefish: No luck =(
[05:38] <membreya> whats the command? :P
[05:38] <thefish> vixus, what error did you get?
[05:38] <vixus> thefish: X still returns an error, but doesn't say what it is
[05:38] <Nermal> thefish, no.. but you will need the kernel-headers for your running kernel to compile the module
[05:38] <zenrox> membreya, nvidia-settings
[05:38] <vixus> thefish: It gives me an X 'about' message
[05:38] <Nermal> vixus, what does lsmod |grep nvidia give you ?
[05:38] <membreya> omg!
[05:38] <membreya> it works!
[05:38] <zenrox> lol
[05:38] <membreya> thankyou zenrox :)
[05:38] <zenrox> n/p
[05:38] <Nermal> :)
[05:39] <dazed> membreya: that reiser4 file system seems to be like GOD LIKE
[05:39] <dazed> lol
[05:39] <vixus> Nermal: nvidia     3570556 0
[05:39] <Nermal> vixus, ok.. that means the driver module is loaded.. which is good
[05:39] <vixus> Nermal: Oh joy =D
[05:39] <membreya> urgh, cursor shadow is ugly
[05:39] <vixus> Nermal: Now why won't X start ^^
[05:39] <Nermal> you really need to try getting apt-get install nvidia-glx working
[05:39] <membreya> dazed: it's good..there's some stories about corruption with it ..but that's with everything :P
[05:39] <vixus> Nermal: It did work.
[05:39] <Nermal> hum..
[05:40] <membreya> cursor shadow reminds me of XP :|
[05:40] <Nermal> and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart  did what ?
[05:40] <vixus> Nermal: Screen flashed a couple of times, then an X error message.
[05:40] <Nermal> vixus, you could just try startx
[05:40] <Nermal> I'll need the error message :|
[05:40] <vixus> Nermal: I asked to view the error, it gave me an about screen.
[05:41] <membreya> vixus: press the down key :P
[05:41] <vixus> Startx does same thing, nermal.
[05:41] <vixus> membreya: Oh... lol
[05:41] <membreya> or check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:41] <vixus> Nermal: Failed to load module GLcore, module does not exist.
[05:41] <membreya> woohoo, adam is retaining "stuff"
[05:42] <Nermal> vixus, hum... interesting..
[05:42] <vixus> Nermal: Fatal IO error 104
[05:42] <krischan> Nermal: I have to ask more specifically: the mouse cursor theme (any) doesn't become active, even after restarting X. What do I miss?
[05:43] <Nermal> vixus, that should be part of nvidia-glx :|
[05:43] <thefish> vixus, have you installed nvidia-kernel as well
[05:43] <Nermal> thefish, yeah he has, and the module is loaded
[05:43] <vixus> thefish: Nope.
[05:43] <thefish> whats that about window opening?
[05:44] <vixus> thefish: Should I?
[05:44] <Nermal> vixus, you have ffs
[05:44] <Nermal> I just told you that
[05:44] <vixus> thefish: That was an error message.
[05:44] <thefish> vixus, apparently it would already be installed
[05:44] <foznot> i am trying to install RealPlayer10GOLD, does this have to be installed in my home directory as root?
[05:44] <vixus> Nermal: ffs?
[05:44] <Nermal> I remember when it was ~600k
[05:44] <Nermal> those were the days
[05:44] <thefish> aaah
[05:45] <Nermal> IN MY DAY.... a tablet pc was made of wax
[05:45] <Nermal> and you had to scribe the words on with a _stylus_
[05:45] <zenrox> lol
[05:45] <thefish> BAH in MY day, we carried round rolls of holey paper, not these new-fangled usb thingys
[05:45] <Nermal> definately too much coffee 8|
[05:45] <dazed> nermal: OH GOD YOUR OLD
[05:46] <Nermal> that may be, but I'm damn good in bed
[05:46] <thefish> HAHAHAHA
[05:46] <membreya> so not a necessary comment Nermal :P
[05:46] <dazed> i still remember my first computer...i was like 6 when my pops brought it home from the office it was this pentium 75 mhz amazing god of a machine
[05:46] <vixus> Nermal: AHA! I had to run sudo nvidia-glx--config enable
[05:47] <blueturtle> lol, why is that poor man using a commercial irc clinet
[05:47] <blueturtle> client.
[05:47] <Nermal> vixus, hey, well done matey :)
[05:47] <dazed> and it worked up until the day i ripped it apart
[05:47] <Nermal> I bought an 8088 laptop :)
[05:47] <cowbud> wow 75 mhz
[05:47] <vixus> Nermal: Don't cheer just yet... I gotta try it!
[05:47] <membreya> dazed: ...how old are you :|
[05:47] <thefish> vixus, so its working now?
[05:47] <zenrox> my first box was a ibm aptiva c65 166mhz 32mbs of ram
[05:47] <Nermal> vixus, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:47] <Lano> damn I'm old...
[05:47] <zenrox> 2.1gig drive
[05:47] <dazed> im 18
[05:47] <dazed> but the computer was much older
[05:47] <dazed> it was a throw out at my dads work
[05:47] <membreya> my first computer was an old sharp computer with a tape drive and built in dot matrix printer
[05:47] <Nermal> my first machine was something that ran the FLEX operating system
[05:48] <membreya> then my amiga 500...512k ram!
[05:48] <dazed> lol membreya i played on one of those
[05:48] <Nermal> then an 8086 with a broken winchester drive... a 360k floppy to boot it, one to run qbasic, one for my program, and one for qbasic help if needed
[05:48] <membreya> in the museum? damn kids :|
[05:48] <dazed> FLEX huh
[05:48] <zenrox> the best machine i ever used was comadore 128
[05:48] <membreya> my first ibm clone was an 80286 8mhz
[05:48] <dazed> Nermal: lol qbasic is da shit
[05:48] <vixus> Nermal: nope.
[05:48] <dazed> if everything could just go back to the basics
[05:48] <zenrox> qbasic rocked
[05:48] <Nermal> damn 32 bit machines.. my abacus had at least 64 beads
[05:49] <vixus> Nermal: Same GLcore error.
[05:49] <bretzel>  membreya: hehehe, I had a Amiga 1000 before 500.... We had to put the "kickstart" floppy!!!
[05:49] <Nermal> aye.. halo has nothing on qbasic gorillas
[05:49] <dazed> zenrox: much truth to that
[05:49] <Nermal> and on low gravity mode, it owned
[05:49] <Nermal> vixus, hum
[05:49] <membreya> this room is getting too sentimentel :P
[05:49] <koppor> Hi! - I'm just trying to install ubuntu. I've got a warning of "ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp": Fontconfig error: cannot load default config file - should I submit a bug-report?
[05:49] <dazed> ROFL Nermal...
[05:49] <Nermal> glcore is provided by nvidia-glx I think
[05:49] <vixus> Nermal: Should I......... REBOOT?!! XD
[05:49] <dazed> i have actually played that
[05:49] <zenrox> dazed,  had to learn programing in high school in dos 3.1
[05:49] <Nermal> vixus, if it gets you off the channel for a few minutes ;)
[05:50] <vixus> Nermal: I followed all the instructions--- can you see ubuntuguide?
[05:50] <Jesterace> heh my highschool programming was turbo pascal :P
[05:50] <koen> hello
[05:50] <vixus> Nermal: I can't.
[05:50] <dazed> see when i was in highschool i learned my first programming class on qbasic
[05:50] <dazed> lol
[05:50] <koen> is anyone here running steam on ubuntu ?
[05:50] <Nermal> vixus, umm.. I guess you could try sudo updatedb
[05:50] <zenrox> i still have my book too just casue i took the last year of it
[05:50] <Nermal> then locate glcore
[05:50] <vixus> Nermal: Ok....
[05:50] <Nermal> koen, I'm trying visa versa
[05:51] <koen> nermal, want do you mean ? :)
[05:51] <dazed> yeah but how many of you can actually say your still on 56k or even worse 56k shared 3 comps
[05:51] <dazed> lol
[05:51] <dazed> I CAN
[05:51] <blueturtle> koen i'd say a few people are running it using cedega, it's something i'd like to get running myself
[05:51] <johso> Nermal: You're trying to run Ubuntu on Steam? :O
[05:51] <occy> zenrox: you here?
[05:51] <johso> so cool :P
[05:51] <Xappe> wonder if I can get my Zenith DOS laptop frpm the late '80s to run any form of linux :)
[05:51] <Nermal> dazed, I have a 14,400 modem with "this device is PROHIBITED from connection to any BT line" sticker on the bottom of it
[05:51] <koen> johso, lol :)
[05:51] <dazed> ROFL Nermal
[05:51] <dazed> yes!
[05:52] <Nermal> it worked fine though
[05:52] <occy> Nermal: know much about skype and hoary?
[05:52] <vixus> Nermal: No output except an ntfs error
[05:52] <johso> drop the powercables, Nermal is using steam engines :P
[05:52] <olu> would ubuntu work good as a samba/ftp server and a torrent/dc downloader?
[05:52] <zenrox> occy,  yep
[05:52] <Nermal> I remember wrapping it in a pillow and sitting on it to muffle the sound of it dialing compuserve at 5am so my father wouldn't hear :P
[05:52] <occy> zenrox: there you are ;)
[05:52] <dazed> i still have a old ass compaq laptop where it looks like an OVER SIZED old school electronic day planner with completely blue and white screen
[05:52] <koen> but does anybody knows the minimal specs for cs 1.6 on steam on ubuntu ?
[05:52] <thefish> olu, yes
[05:52] <dazed> it has a 9.9 baud modem
[05:52] <olu> k
[05:52] <occy> zenrox: I apt-cache search skype
[05:52] <dazed> BAUD!
[05:52] <occy> didn't find anything.
[05:52] <dazed> lol
[05:52] <Nermal> occy, not tried skype in hoary :|
[05:52] <Nermal> s/in hoary//
[05:52] <olu> the main problem is that all my disks is ntfs.. can i convert them to ext3?
[05:53] <thefish> skype is BAD!
[05:53] <zenrox> occy,  you got to get it from www.skype.com
[05:53] <zenrox> thefish,  shudup
[05:53] <dazed> can u run CS on nix?
[05:53] <psai_> is there a way to get the applications-all-users:/// menu editor working with gnome 2.10.0
[05:53] <vixus> dazed: Sure
[05:53] <zenrox> dazed,  with winx or cedaga
[05:53] <thefish> serious! they dont document anything, its a trap!
[05:53] <koen> yeah with that windows converted, sedeco or something
[05:53] <dazed> true
[05:53] <occy> thefish: heh
[05:53] <vixus> dazed: Pay money
[05:53] <dazed> forgot abotu those shizzles
[05:53] <thefish> nasty closed protocols
[05:53] <Nermal> occy, no section in ubuntuguide about it ?
[05:53] <cowbud> olu: with partition magic you can convert them..
[05:53] <vixus> thefish: Can you help?
[05:53] <dazed> who pays for anything anymore
[05:53] <cowbud> anyways i'm outta here
[05:53] <dazed> lol
[05:53] <occy> Nermal: didn't see... checking skype.com
[05:53] <Nermal> olu, nope :|
[05:54] <johso> is it possible to run Steam without installing everything again?
[05:54] <olu> Nermal: can't i?
[05:54] <Nermal> occy, likelyhood is you download it from skype.com and ubuntuguide.org will tell you how to install it "the ubuntu way"
[05:54] <dazed> cowbud: fsck Partition magic...it needs to die for charging me to do one resize on my hard drvie
[05:54] <occy> zenrox: just grab the debian package?
[05:54] <olu> not with partition magic either?
[05:54] <zenrox> occy,  yep
[05:54] <thefish> vixus, im not sure now... what is the last error you had?
[05:54] <koen> I guess you will have to locate halflife
[05:54] <vixus> thefish: X wouldn't start cause GLcore not found
[05:54] <occy> ahhh
[05:54] <occy> got it.
[05:54] <blueturtle> qt_parted = free Partition Magic clone
[05:54] <szaz> nermal: grep returns nothing in dmesg containing eth0
[05:54] <johso> and how would I do that? :p
[05:54] <occy> found it on ubuntuguide Nermal
[05:54] <motuline> why opera crashes when try to use java apps
[05:54] <occy> zenrox: I might call you in a bit. ;)
[05:55] <dazed> blueturtle: only works on nix :|
[05:55] <Micksa> hi
[05:55] <blueturtle> you can boot it up with windows
[05:55] <szaz> lspci lists several entries - none of which appear to be a net card
[05:55] <Nermal> szaz, what does lspci call the card
[05:55] <thefish> vixus, did you go: locate glcore?
[05:55] <Nermal> szaz, :|
[05:55] <blueturtle> from the boot cd..
[05:55] <johso> motuline: have you installed java plugin for mozilla?
[05:55] <Nermal> what does sudo modprobe ne2k_pci then dmesg give you ?
[05:55] <Micksa> I'm trying out hoary... any reason why the changing the mouse acceleration/sensitivity would seem to have no effecT?
[05:55] <thoreauputic> motuline: because you don't have the right java path configured, probably
[05:55] <motuline> ou.. sudo apt-get install flash-pluhin
[05:55] <motuline> ?
[05:55] <motuline> plugin*
[05:55] <dazed> alright all well the next hour of my life is dedicated to my AMAZING psychology class
[05:56] <szaz> nothing
[05:56] <zenrox> occy,  ok
[05:56] <blueturtle> have fun dazed :)
[05:56] <membreya> my poor thunderbird, I have it checking 4 email accounts (my isp, hotmail, gmail and localhost)
[05:56] <occy> I'll be scared the day they start putting AOL icons on the gnome desktop
[05:56] <occy> hehe
[05:56] <johso> motuline: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[05:56] <dazed> yeah right haha :)
[05:56] <Nermal> occy, I'll be more scared when they put gnome icons on the AOL stuff :|
[05:56] <Nermal> newbie galore :O
[05:56] <occy> heh
[05:56] <dazed||psych> peaces
[05:56] <occy> sad thing is, that's what we shooting for.
[05:57] <Nermal> aye :|
[05:57] <occy> at least I'm hoping it happens.
[05:57] <johso> motuline: if it works for mozilla it works for Opera - Opera searches for plugins in the mozilla folder..
[05:57] <occy> careful for what you wish for they say.
[05:57] <occy> :)
[05:57] <szaz> there is a line in dmesg "isapnp card: Allied Telesyn 2000 PNP'
[05:57] <Nermal> hum
[05:58] <Xappe> AOL, america on linux
[05:58] <blueturtle> heh, i wish
[05:58] <vixus> Don't tell me I have to _reinstall Ubuntu_
[05:58] <occy> zenrox: the ubuntuguide.org suggests using the staticQT version.
[05:58] <vixus> :O
[05:58] <membreya> vixus: it's fun
[05:58] <occy> zenrox: what do you suggest?
[05:58] <vixus> membreya... yeah, sure
[05:59] <thefish> vixus, run udo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 nd choose nvidia?
[05:59] <vixus> membreya: Having to get my entire configuration back the way it was
[05:59] <membreya> vixus: backup your /etc directory then :P
[05:59] <Nermal> hometime :D
[05:59] <membreya> don't leave Nermal !
[05:59] <thefish> vixus, did you sudo modprobe nvidia
[06:00] <Nermal> thefish, its already loaded
[06:00] <thefish> k
[06:00] <Nermal> for the 2nd time :)
[06:00] <Nermal> right.. ciao
[06:00] <titoxx69> Maybe it's a stupid question, but I would like to be less stupid :) Should I report GNOME-related bugs on the Ubuntu bugzilla ?
[06:00] <johso> You guys ever tried to unmute your microphone and then it will not mute again?? It's verya annoying, people can her themself if I speak to them using skype...
[06:00] <vixus> thefish: No output
[06:00] <vixus> thefish: No nvidia option either
[06:00] <titoxx69> Maybe GNOME bugzilla would be more appropriate
[06:00] <titoxx69> no ?
[06:00] <thefish> vixus, ok, did you run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" and choose nvidia
[06:00] <vixus> thefish: No nvidia option either
[06:01] <thefish> vixus, bugger - im not sure then
[06:01] <johso> noone?
[06:01] <vixus> thefish: reinstall ubuntu time
[06:01] <vixus> thefish: or back to windows tilll it can be fixed
[06:02] <johso> vixus: installing gfx drivers can screw everything up - I had to reinstall my Ubuntu in order to get my drivers working perfect...
[06:02] <vixus> bye all
[06:02] <vixus> :\
[06:02] <vixus> yeah, welll
[06:02] <vixus> :P
[06:02] <johso> virtuald: it might help to update to 686..
[06:02] <johso> vixus that was..
[06:03] <thefish> aah well
[06:03] <universal> does someone know how to install the iWeather for gdesklets??
[06:03] <johso> anyone know what to do with the microphone prob?
[06:03] <olu> why will apt install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-4-386 when i have kernel 2.6.11 ?
[06:04] <Echylo> hmm, can you generate a html playlist of your songs with xmms?
[06:05] <johso> Echylo: I don't think so, no.. At least I've never seen that option..
[06:05] <xerox> Hello!
[06:06] <johso> Hello!
[06:06] <netpuppy> where do you find 32-bit libs for ubuntu/amd64?
[06:06] <blueturtle> a program to write that yourself wouldn't be very big
[06:06] <Echylo> blueturtle , first exams, then programming, then writing programs
[06:06] <Echylo> :p
[06:06] <xerox> I have a little question, maybe you answered to it multiple times. I just don't know. How does Ubuntu packet manager compares to Gentoo's portage? I really *love* having up-to-date packages, is it possible in ubuntu?
[06:06] <gangalino> what's the txt irc thing?
[06:07] <blueturtle> :)
[06:07] <Echylo> gangalino irssi? bitchX ?
[06:07] <Tomcat_> xerox: apt is very similar to portage. But Ubuntu won't give you bleeding-edge packages like Gentoo does.
[06:07] <thoreauputic> gangalino: irssi
[06:07] <gangalino> thanks
[06:07] <johso> xerox: sudo apt-get  dist-upgrade?
[06:07] <Niomi> hello
[06:07] <Tomcat_> xerox: It's not really a problem of the package manager. Just that somebody has to supply these new packages.
[06:07] <deFrysk> Tomcat_, unles you run hoary
[06:08] <Tomcat_> deFrysk: Yes, but hoary will freeze as well in the next weeks. :)
[06:08] <ells> is anyone familiar with gftp
[06:08] <xerox> Tomcat_, yep, my bigger "problem" in switching is about having newest software.
[06:08] <deFrysk> Tomcat_, but 6 weeks after we can upgrade to the next bleeding version
[06:08] <johso> ells: familiar? what are you thinking of?
[06:08] <Tomcat_> xerox: Then you have to use Gentoo or Debian sid (unstable)...
[06:08] <ells> johso, I connected last night and now it wont let me
[06:08] <Tomcat_> deFrysk: Indeed. :)
[06:09] <Echylo> hmm I was wondering, compiling gentoo or an lfs takes a long time on old computers, isn't it possible that other computers can "help" you with compiling, so that they compile a piece for your pc?
[06:09] <xerox> Tomcat_, Debian sid compares nicely to Gentoo, in this sense?
[06:09] <ells> i johso, I can do it in the console, but not graphically in gftp
[06:09] <Jesterace> http://remenissions.org/images/ubuntu.png there's my purdy ubuntu desktop
[06:09] <Vixus> I never thought I'd say the words: "Good old windows."
[06:09] <deFrysk> Tomcat_, so if you want bleeding with twice a year a 6 week interval use ubuntu ;)
[06:09] <Niomi> echylo: gentoo scares me.
[06:09] <Tomcat_> Well xerox... as deFrysk said you can run Ubuntu as bleeding edge... but I recommend it less than I'd recommend Debian sid or Gentoo.
[06:09] <ells> johso, dont know why
[06:09] <Echylo> Niomi lfs attracts me
[06:09] <johso> ells: okay - sounds strange... have you tried reinstalling it?
[06:10] <Echylo> but compiling would take ages here
[06:10] <Niomi> knowing nothing about linux, gentoo was the first i tried
[06:10] <Echylo> (2 or 3 days I guess)
[06:10] <thoreauputic> Echylo: yes, it's possible to compile on another machine
[06:10] <Niomi> it scared me away from linux for a year... heheheh..
[06:10] <deFrysk> Niomi, lol
[06:10] <ells> naw, here is what is says, Error: Could not read from socket: Connection reset by peer
[06:10] <koen_> what should i do to run nvidia drivers ?
[06:10] <Jesterace> gentoo took forever on my p3-750 heck i never did finish getting it installed
[06:10] <xerox> Tomcat_, okay, thank you very much.
[06:10] <Jesterace> so it runs ubuntu too
[06:10] <Echylo> same here
[06:10] <Echylo> but lfs attracts me more :p
[06:10] <Niomi> it took forever on my celeron... and i did it over and over again because i suck.
[06:11] <Tomcat_> deFrysk: I think the changes in Ubuntu from release to release are too big... like the UTF8 thing... I doubt you can change from bleeding edge to bleeding edge without breaking something, while Debian sid is really usable. :)
[06:11] <Tomcat_> deFrysk: But I might be wrong, no idea.
[06:11] <deFrysk> gentoo is fun but ever compiling gets boring
[06:11] <blueturtle> Jesterace - In Flames fan?:)
[06:11] <thoreauputic> Echylo: most of the speed claims for gentoo are exagerated
[06:11] <Jesterace> blueturtle,  yeppers :)
[06:11] <Echylo> uhu
[06:11] <thoreauputic> *exaggerated
[06:11] <blueturtle> cool
[06:11] <johso> ells: hmm, I'm not really _that_ familliar with it, but my best guess is to reinstall it, if it's not caused by the server..
[06:11] <deFrysk> Tomcat_, debian wil also switch to xorg
[06:11] <blueturtle> great stuff
[06:11] <MFen> has anyone gotten a non-sysvinit service manager working on ubuntu? is there maybe a tutorial somewhere?
[06:11] <blueturtle> i've been meaning to order some of their stuff
[06:11] <deFrysk> and probably also to utf8
[06:11] <Echylo> lfs will be on my todo list for the vacation
[06:11] <ells> johso, well I can get in thru the console
[06:11] <MFen> i really need one.. i have too many dependent services running
[06:11] <ells> johso, sounds fishy
[06:11] <blueturtle> no one else has the good taste to have it on mp3, and the stores don't stock them
[06:12] <johso> ells: Indeed...
[06:12] <Jesterace> blueturtle,  in flames?
[06:12] <ells> johso, wonder why I can thru console and not graphically
[06:12] <Jesterace> blueturtle,  i have all the albums in mp3 stores around here don't carry them as well
[06:12] <Echylo> I printed the manual once, so I think it's still useable?
[06:12] <MFen> i'm talking about something like runit
[06:13] <blueturtle> aye, i've been meaning to get some more of their stuff. Nightwish too
[06:13] <johso> ells: yea, doesn't make any sense... but as I said before, try to reinstall gftp?
[06:13] <ells> johso, I reinstalled, I can connect thru gftp to gnome
[06:13] <HeavyAl> hi all
[06:13] <HeavyAl> loaded channel
[06:13] <Jesterace> blueturtle,  ever give dark tranquillity a listen? i like them as well
[06:13] <HeavyAl> oh gawd, so we're talkin music?
[06:13] <johso> ells: gftp to gnome? now I'm confused
[06:14] <blueturtle> nope, good eh?
[06:14] <Jesterace> HeavyAl, we're talking everything :
[06:14] <HeavyAl> hehe
[06:14] <HeavyAl> cool
[06:14] <ells> johso, it is listed as a site on the program that you can go to if you want
[06:14] <blueturtle> Jesterace, i plan to massively upgrade my music once i get a job, i'm surviving hand to mouth at the moment on mp3 albums
[06:14] <Jesterace> blueturtle,  yep i considering sister bands since bandmembers swapped around hehe
[06:14] <ells> johso, verifying that the program works
[06:14] <blueturtle> hehehe
[06:14] <tritium> ells, what's going on?
[06:14] <Jesterace> I'm on a leave of absense from work
[06:15] <Jesterace> good ol anxiety disorder
[06:15] <johso> ells: Oh, didn't know that - so it's working now?
[06:15] <Jesterace> feel chest pains however doctors can't find nothing wrong
[06:15] <ells> tritium: I cannot connect thru gftp today
[06:15] <Jesterace> so i spend my days playing with linux
[06:15] <tritium> ells, to your desktop?  through ssh?
[06:15] <Jesterace> waiting for my insurance to start
[06:15] <ells> tritium, what in the heck it worked last night, ssh to desktop
[06:15] <Echylo> fantom paines Jesterace ?
[06:15] <dwa_> Jesterace , let it all out
[06:16] <Jesterace> Echylo, I don't know
[06:16] <tritium> ells, does your desktop get its IP address via dhcp?  has its IP changed?
[06:16] <djg> Hi, is synaptic broken in Hoary, or am I just totally useless?
[06:16] <Jesterace> they come on every so often and moreso when I take anxiety attacks they stuck me on paxil but they said it'll be a month before i feel any benefits lol.
[06:16] <Jesterace> but i'm still walking and breathing that's good enough for me
[06:16] <ells> I checked and it is the same
[06:16] <dwa_> well synaptic isn't broken... ;)
[06:17] <Jesterace> i would figure it it was major id be on my knees if i was doing physical activity
[06:17] <ells> tritium: here is what gftp says Error: Could not read from socket: Connection reset by peer
[06:17] <HeavyAl> i was on paxil for about three years
[06:17] <Jesterace> but it just seems when i'm idle i feel them
[06:17] <tritium> ells, check your desktop's IP address.
[06:17] <Jesterace> I took an attack so bad i rushed myself to the clinic
[06:17] <djg> dwa_: Damn.
[06:17] <ells> tritium: I do get it from DHCP
[06:17] <Jesterace> thinking it was a heart attack
[06:17] <ells> tritium: okay
[06:17] <HeavyAl> the problem with paxil for me was that it made it difficult for me to remember anything for more than 5 seconds.
[06:17] <Jesterace> I'm on week #2 with paxel
[06:17] <dwa_> djg : got any error messages?
[06:17] <djg> dwa_: I get problems with the APT library...
[06:18] <Jesterace> they did have me on celexa for 2 weeks before that then i was switched
[06:18] <tritium> ells, dhcp is not what you want if you're going to setup port forwarding.  Give your desktop a static IP address
[06:18] <lynrob> what is password for cups
[06:18] <blueturtle> i was on seroxat for a while, it's not good stuff
[06:18] <Jesterace> lynrob,  should be your password you use to login and for sudo
[06:18] <blueturtle> better to challenge the root of the problem than to mask the symptoms, i've found
[06:18] <HeavyAl> finally when i got the doctors to believe the stuff was effecting my memory they witched me to lexapro, which has been a great deal better.
[06:19] <ells> tritium: okay, but the ip is the same, how can I check this one out
[06:19] <Jesterace> I have constant anxiety
[06:19] <Jesterace> ppl say anxiety attacks last 30 mins
[06:19] <Jesterace> i've had them last 6 days
[06:19] <Jesterace> sleeping was the only peace i had
[06:19] <Jesterace> then when I woke up BOOM anxiety once again
[06:19] <HeavyAl> hey, since i'm here, can anyone tell me if there is a way to use synaptic to download the neccesary driver to make the media player work with mp3s and avi's?
[06:20] <deFrysk> Jesterace, during anxiety after 20 min in the situation it will settle down again
[06:20] <Jesterace> hmm
[06:20] <deFrysk> also then you will eventually get over it
[06:20] <djg> dwa_: synaptic: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3
[06:20] <deFrysk> its a law
[06:20] <deFrysk> stay in is for at least 20 minutes be4 running
[06:20] <deFrysk> in it
[06:20] <dwa_> and what if you to install just that package?
[06:21] <dwa_> djg
[06:21] <djg> It's provided by apt.
[06:21] <lynrob> i have tried using my logon passwd to no avail
[06:21] <dwa_> mm
[06:21] <djg> And apt is already at the latest version...
[06:21] <dwa_> have you tried the forums?
[06:21] <dwa_> i
[06:21] <dwa_> i'm not really sure what the problem is
[06:21] <Butters|XGH|Snip> Does anyone have a minute?? I just need to ask a few questions to get some solutions
[06:22] <thoreauputic> Butters|XGH|Snip: just ask - if anyone can help, they will
[06:22] <membreya> just ask away Butters|XGH|Snip , it's the easiest way :)
[06:22] <djg> dwa_: No, I'll give it a go.
[06:22] <lynrob> my login passwd does not work for cups
[06:22] <Jesterace> actually
[06:23] <dwa_> djg , always remember: you're probably not the only one :)
[06:23] <Jesterace> lynrob,  did you try the printer manager in gnome/
[06:23] <Butters|XGH|Snip> ok I have a Geforce 6800 GT OC...I want a little better performance... I was stupid, upgraded to the 2.6.11 kernel then found out it doesn't work with the nvidia drivers...so I'm back on my 2.6.10 driver..But is there a more updated one??  I have 2.6.10-3-386
[06:23] <dwa_> and what do you see drasko?
[06:23] <dwa_> what do you really see?
[06:23] <lynrob> yes however my printer is not detected
[06:23] <membreya> Butters|XGH|Snip: download the nvidia driver and install it with 2.6.11 ?
[06:23] <Butters|XGH|Snip> I know theres a patch for the 6629 drivers but I don't have a clue on how to install it
[06:24] <Butters|XGH|Snip> yeah thats the problem... I'm a big noob man...if its not in apt-get I'm lost
[06:24] <Butters|XGH|Snip> I got it and d/led it...but getting the headers is killing me
[06:24] <lynrob> my printer is a usb canon pixma
[06:24] <Jesterace> i had lots of trouble with my printer
[06:25] <Jesterace> a usb Canon S200
[06:25] <lynrob> how did you get it going
[06:25] <membreya> Butters|XGH|Snip: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux.html
[06:25] <LordGrunt> any guesses why my sound system is down after upgrade to hoary?
[06:26] <Butters|XGH|Snip> I already d/led that from nvidia.... but getting all the other dependants is where I fail
[06:27] <Butters|XGH|Snip> I can't find the kernel headers or what not for 2.6.11
[06:27] <lynrob> something as simple as printing should not be so difficult for linux
[06:27] <tritium> Butters|XGH|Snip, 2.6.10-4 is working just fine with nvidia
[06:27] <Butters|XGH|Snip> yeah I have this one 2.6.10-3-386
[06:27] <Jesterace> lynrob, I just used the gnome printer management
[06:27] <Butters|XGH|Snip> is there something a little more current that might help me out?
[06:27] <Jesterace> and it configured itself
[06:28] <tritium> Butters|XGH|Snip, it's the latest
[06:28] <thoreauputic> lynrob: canon have the reputation of being uncooperative with releasing specs - makes writing drivers hard
[06:28] <lynrob> i will try it again fo rumpteenth time
[06:28] <Jesterace> i never thought I'd get mine to work
[06:28] <Butters|XGH|Snip> ok.... so how do I get the kernel headers for my 2.6.10-3-386
[06:28] <Butters|XGH|Snip>  kernel so I can update to the 7167 drivers?
[06:28] <Jesterace> lynrob, did you check out linuxprinting.org see if there's any info there?
[06:28] <Vjaz> Anyone know a good graphical frontend for tgz/zip/rar/etc packages?
[06:28] <tritium> Butters|XGH|Snip, no, 6629
[06:29] <lypanov10mail> Riddell: ping you around?
[06:29] <Vjaz> I'm displeased with Fileroller.
[06:29] <thoreauputic> lynrob: check linuxprintting.org to see if it's supported
[06:29] <Butters|XGH|Snip> ok so do you have an easy way for me to patch my 6629 drivers?
[06:29] <lypanov10mail> anyone else know how to set the locale in my gnome desktop to en_GB?
[06:29] <Jesterace> doh my upgrade to hoary wiped my samba settings heh
[06:29] <Pingp0Ng[m] aN> hey peepz. i need some help with connecting to a lan network. (they have win2003 server)
[06:29] <Butters|XGH|Snip> 6629 only supports 42megs of video memory...what a waste when I have 256
[06:30] <thefish> Pingp0Ng[m] aN, you want to share files?
[06:30] <lypie> ummm
[06:30] <tritium> Butters|XGH|Snip, you'll have to build your own nvidia kernel modules if you decide not to use what ships with ubuntu
[06:30] <Butters|XGH|Snip> ok so how do I get the kernel headers?  lol you keep avoiding this question
[06:30] <Butters|XGH|Snip> you have to have them to build the driver
[06:31] <Jesterace> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:31] <Pingp0Ng[m] aN> no ,problem is autorization, cuz they requre to log on the doman, and i cant make to promt me user/pass prompt
[06:31] <tritium> Butters|XGH|Snip, I'm not avoiding any questions.  You didn't ask me that before.  Please address comments to my nick so that I see them.
[06:32] <tritium> Butters|XGH|Snip, apt-get install the linux-headers package that matches the kernel version you wish to use
[06:32] <Butters|XGH|Snip> hmm its saying they haven't been verified
[06:32] <Butters|XGH|Snip> does this mater?
[06:32] <membreya> Butters|XGH|Snip: what kernel are you running?
[06:32] <Butters|XGH|Snip> 2.6.10-3-386
[06:32] <Pingp0Ng[m] aN> thefish: no ,problem is autorization, cuz they requre to log on the doman, and i cant make to promt me user/pass prompt
[06:33] <thefish> aah
[06:33] <thefish> so what services do you want from the domain?
[06:33] <membreya> Butters|XGH|Snip: sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6-386
[06:34] <Butters|XGH|Snip> jThe following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:34] <Butters|XGH|Snip>   kernel-headers-2.6-386: Depends: kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-386 but it is not installable
[06:34] <Butters|XGH|Snip> E: Broken packages
[06:34] <Pingp0Ng[m] aN> thefish: all, we have DHCP (works), Internet (uses ISA server)... to access computers
[06:34] <blueturtle> later
[06:34] <tritium> Butters|XGH|Snip, why not use the latest kernel?
[06:35] <Butters|XGH|Snip> because I didn't know how to get the kernel headers and my nvidia drivers don't work on X with 2.6.11 right now
[06:35] <Butters|XGH|Snip> so I was just going to upgrade completely to 2.6.11 and the 7167
[06:35] <Pingp0Ng[m] aN> thefish: im curentyl on win2003, when i try to acess computer it requres username: (domain/hostname and password) ... so that is what also i need :)
[06:35] <tritium> Butters|XGH|Snip, I'm in several channels at the same time.  If you don't address comments to my nick, I won't see them.
[06:36] <thefish> Pingp0Ng[m] aN, what do you want on it files/email ?
[06:36] <kahuna_> Is there a media player that looks and works good in gnome that you guys can reccommend? If there's anything like it, I prefer an itunes-like interface.
[06:36] <thefish> why should you log in if all you want to do is log in?
[06:36] <thefish> it will do you no good
[06:36] <stgs> I have a problem with warty live cd
[06:37] <ssam> kahuna_ rhythmbox
[06:37] <thefish> if you want to access files on the machine, use smbclient
[06:37] <stgs> could you help me?
[06:37] <tritium> Butters|XGH|Snip, the latest _supported_ kernel is 2.6.10-4
[06:37] <kahuna_> ssam, thanks :)
[06:38] <ssam> its the most itunes like interface
[06:38] <kahuna_> Looks nice to me.
[06:38] <ssam> or there is muine, which is not like itunes, but it makes it quick to play a song or album
[06:39] <kahuna_> Maybe I'll try both
[06:40] <Butters|XGH|Snip> tritium: I'm installing the 10-4 kernel now.... where are the kernel headers located so I can tell the nvidia driver?
[06:40] <ssam> or beep-media-player (the new xmms), which is like winamp (a bad interface in my opinion)
[06:41] <tritium> Butters|XGH|Snip, linux-headers-2.6.10-4
[06:41] <tritium> Butters|XGH|Snip, you need that package installed
[06:42] <Butters|XGH|Snip> tritium: yes It selected it in Synaptic
[06:42] <tritium> Butters|XGH|Snip, okay, install it.
[06:42] <Butters|XGH|Snip> tritium: I chose the 2.6.10-4-k7 and it said I needed the other one
[06:43] <Butters|XGH|Snip> tritium: so where is that header located?? I'm about to restart so I can upgrade my nvidia drivers
[06:44] <tritium> Butters|XGH|Snip, get the correct one for your architecture.  It should be /lib/modules/2.6.10-4/build, or something similar.  I don't recall exactly
[06:44] <tritium> Butters|XGH|Snip, the nvidia installer program should default to that, and work without modification
[06:45] <Butters|XGH|Snip> tritium: thanks for the help... lol nah it doesn't because it doesn't put the headers in the same location as distros like RH does
[06:46] <tritium> Butters|XGH|Snip, I know it doesn't, but if I recall, it defaults to /usr/lib/`uname -r`/build/, which is a symlink to the headers
[06:46] <Butters|XGH|Snip> tritium: so it askes for the location during the installation
[06:46] <bluefoxicy> DAMNIT
[06:46] <bluefoxicy> my gnome is set to flash the whole monitor when it beeps
[06:46] <bluefoxicy> htf do i turn that off
[06:49] <gustav_> bluefoxicy: sound in the settings menu then systemsignal (or someting, my ubuntu is in swedish)
[06:50] <thoreauputic> bluefoxicy: "visual feedback" under sound preferences
[06:51] <thoreauputic> on the system bell tab
[06:52] <EvilSven> hi, how do I check and/or set color-depth in hoary?
[06:53] <Punkt> jemand ne ahnung wie die software heisst womit ich'n widows sp extrahieren kann?
[06:54] <reon> What is the best p2p app out there ??? For Ubuntu64 offcourse
[06:55] <zenrox> reon,  not for 64bit but limewire
[06:55] <Amaranth> reon: giFToxic or Apollon if they are available for amd64
[06:55] <Amaranth> reon: giFToxic is GTK, Apollon is QT but better
[06:57] <reon> zenroz, I ran limewire on Win, was really good/fast
[06:57] <zenrox> reon,  it can also run on linux
[06:57] <reon> zenrox, noticed but looks like 32bit only
[06:58] <reon> I need to lear how to convert 32bit apps to 64 bit.....
[06:58] <zenrox> reon,  try it at least it might still work
[06:58] <zenrox> lol
[06:58] <reon> zenrox, i'll try it no
[06:58] <zenrox> hehehe
[06:59] <xerox> If I install the hoary iso, which X server would I get?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> xerox: xorg
[06:59] <StoffBox-Steve> have someone a link .. howto install lm-sensors ... i have a nice one, but i lost it :(
[06:59] <DarthFrog> xorg
[07:00] <zenrox> StoffBox-Steve,  just do a apt-get install lm-sensors
[07:00] <zenrox> StoffBox-Steve,  then do a sudo sensors-detect
[07:00] <zenrox> then tell it to add the lines
[07:00] <Punkt> how can i extract a windows sp?
[07:00] <zenrox> then reboot
[07:00] <StoffBox-Steve> ahh thx zenrox :)
[07:00] <zenrox> StoffBox-Steve,  n/p
[07:02] <universal> does someone know about Iweather?
[07:03] <universal> Amaranth, do you know about gdesklets?
[07:03] <Amaranth> universal: Nope.
[07:03] <universal> Amaranth, ok
[07:04] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic: bug.
[07:04] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  Mine was set to "flash window title" but it flashes the whole fecking screen.
[07:05] <thoreauputic> did you disble it ?
[07:05] <thoreauputic> *disable
[07:06] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  yeah
[07:10] <scorn> hello all. so i tried the live cd alot .. is there a way to install that .. or whats the closest
[07:12] <EvilSven> I just upgraded from warty to hoary, I seem to have lost synaptic (it's not in system) any hints?
[07:12] <EvilSven> menu system that is...
[07:13] <scorn> EvilSven sorry cant help you.. but what gnome version is in the latest ,.. ?
[07:13] <ompaul> EvilSven, have you tried it from the command line?
[07:13] <EvilSven> 2.10 I think
[07:13] <scorn> or whats the latest ubuntu out now
[07:13] <crimsun> EvilSven: System>Administration
[07:13] <Agrajag> scorn: the version of buntu with the newest software is hoary
[07:13] <Agrajag> 5.04
[07:14] <Agrajag> s/buntu/ubuntu
[07:14] <scorn> k ill dlaod it now.. how many disks
[07:14] <Agrajag> 1
[07:14] <DarthFrog> Except that Hoary is in the pre-release stage.  A release candidate, if you will.
[07:14] <scorn> what is jigdo
[07:14] <Agrajag> DarthFrog: true, but it seems stable to me
[07:15] <DarthFrog> Agrajag: and to me, too.
[07:15] <scorn> is it easy to upgrade ..?
[07:15] <EvilSven> It's not in System>Administration (was before). what is the cmd-line command (hehe)?
[07:15] <Agrajag> scorn: yes
[07:15] <Agrajag> it uses apt
[07:15] <Agrajag> EvilSven: surprisingly, it's "synaptic"
[07:15] <scorn> Agrajag because if im dlaodeing a pre .. then i want to eventually just update
[07:15] <DarthFrog> scorn: Jigdo is "jigsaw download",  It's a scatter-gather method of downloading files.
[07:15] <xukun> anybody here using GeForce4 440 Go with the latest kernel?
[07:16] <Agrajag> scorn: there is a graphical update manager included
[07:16] <Agrajag> it doesn't matter if it
[07:16] <Agrajag> if it's a prerelease or not, you should stay up-to-date on security patches
[07:16] <scorn> http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/releases/5.04/hoary-preview-install-i386.iso   so ths is the one im downloading ..
[07:17] <EvilSven> the update was a brease, but I've lost xine and synaptic from the menus
[07:17] <DarthFrog> scorn: Ubuntu is Debian-based system. Once one version is installed, you never have to re-install to upgrade to newer versions. You simply edit /etc/apt/sources.list to change the download targets to the newer version.
[07:17] <crimsun> EvilSven: have you logged out and back in?
[07:17] <Agrajag> oh, I don't have xine there either
[07:17] <Agrajag> weird
[07:17] <EvilSven> xine doesn't bother me (still here)
[07:17] <scorn> DarthFrog right..
[07:17] <EvilSven> yes
[07:17] <Agrajag> I guess I use bash too much to notice
[07:17] <navreet> EvilSven, file a bug report
[07:17] <EvilSven> rebooted
[07:17] <navreet> EvilSven, please
[07:17] <crimsun> EvilSven: are you referring to xineui?
[07:18] <EvilSven> yupp
[07:18] <scorn> can i modify my kernel .. or is some auto thing
[07:18] <DarthFrog> How do you want to modify it?
[07:18] <crimsun> EvilSven: xineui lacks a proper .desktop file corresponding to the new gnome menu method
[07:18] <EvilSven> but xine is still linked to the appropriate files, so no matter
[07:18] <EvilSven> oki
[07:18] <Agrajag> I'd likke to go on record as despising the new gnome menu method
[07:19] <Agrajag> since you can't add entries through nautilus anymore
[07:19] <DarthFrog> You can build and install your own kernel if you want.
[07:19] <thoreauputic> Agrajag: hear! hear!
[07:19] <crimsun> EvilSven: you could install the 'menu' and 'menu-xdg' packages if you'd like to see them; they'll be in the Debian menu.
[07:19] <EvilSven> hehe
[07:19] <EvilSven> would that give me back synaptic??
[07:19] <DarthFrog> Agrajag: I'm running the KDE desktop.  Don't know about new Gnome menus. :-)  Don't know about old Gnome menus for that matter.
[07:20] <crimsun> EvilSven: you shouldn't have any problems whatsoever with Synaptic
[07:20] <EvilSven> I do, tho
[07:20] <Agrajag> DarthFrog: hey, nobody's perfect
[07:20] <crimsun> EvilSven: rerun update-menus?
[07:20] <EvilSven> how ? pls   :)
[07:20] <crimsun> EvilSven: when was the last time you ran sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[07:21] <EvilSven> 2 hrs ago
[07:21] <DarthFrog> Agrajag: or pobody's nerfect, as my wife says.
[07:21] <Riddell> Agrajag: you can use kmenuedit to change the menu
[07:21] <thefish> seeya folks
[07:21] <crimsun> EvilSven: open a terminal and type sudo update-menus
[07:21] <EvilSven> all went great, just a few missing icons
[07:21] <Agrajag> Riddell: kmenuedit?
[07:21] <EvilSven> thnks
[07:21] <Agrajag> um...
[07:21] <Agrajag> I'm using gnome
[07:22] <Riddell> Agrajag: regardless, you can use it
[07:22] <Agrajag> oh
[07:22] <Agrajag> I really don't feel like installing KDE to edit gnome menus
[07:22] <EvilSven> sudo: update-menus: command not found
[07:22] <DarthFrog> Agrajag: If you have the support libraries installed, Gnome users can use KDE programs and _vice versa_.  Using one, doesn't mean giving up on the best of the other.
[07:23] <Agrajag> YEs, but as I said I don't feel like installing it
[07:23] <EvilSven> any special dir?
[07:23] <Agrajag> I really don't like kde.
[07:23] <StoffBox-Steve> is there a console command to look what ubuntu version im running ?
[07:23] <thoreauputic> EvilSven: you installed the packages crimsun said to install?
[07:24] <Agrajag> StoffBox-Steve: cat /etc/lsb-release
[07:24] <EvilSven> sorry, no
[07:24] <EvilSven> just a sec
[07:24] <crimsun> EvilSven: sorry, that's in the 'menu' package
[07:24] <StoffBox-Steve> thx Agrajag
[07:24] <thoreauputic> StoffBox-Steve: or cat /etc/issue
[07:24] <membreya> cat /etc/issue
[07:24] <membreya> damn you thor
[07:24] <thoreauputic> hehe
[07:25] <EvilSven> apt-get install menu?
[07:25] <crimsun> you'll want menu-xdg, too
[07:25] <EvilSven> yes, but that's the syntax?
[07:26] <crimsun> apt-get install menu menu-xdg
[07:26] <EvilSven> okidoki
[07:26] <membreya> he'll win :(
[07:26] <dazed||psych> lol
[07:26] <ding> ding - game on
[07:27] <membreya> screw you thoreauputic ...that's EXACTLY what I was about to say!
[07:27] <thoreauputic> membreya: gotta be quick, mate ;) *grin*
[07:28] <membreya> i got a headache and it's 5.30am
[07:28] <EvilSven> crimsun, need a gnome restartr for effect?
[07:28] <crimsun> EvilSven: no, at most, pkill gnome-panel