[04:35] <bob2> nomed: what?
[04:35] <windex> wastrel, mud clients are optimized for muds and let you do weird things like scripting.
[04:35] <concept10> im about to upgrade to breezy, where does thunderbird archive your email?  (Im about to backup my /home dir)
[04:35] <wastrel> ah :]
[04:35] <Agamotto> karen:  Unplug it, then plug back in, it may just need a data reset
[04:35] <Tonio0505> back with the same problem, any one want to help me install a nvidia driver
[04:36] <karen> Agamotto-- i guess i clicked and clicked so now i have 40 prints waiting and can't cancel them for some reaosn
[04:36] <karen> reason
[04:36] <bob2> Tonio0505: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:36] <Agamotto> Tonio0505:  That is easy.  Use synpaptic, search for nvidia, install the bits, then do the console bit
[04:36] <bob2> Tonio0505: if you followed anything on the forums, you're probably boned
[04:36] <Rhisc> crap... for some reason I cant select anything in the grub boot loader, its like it dosent detect my keyboard
[04:36] <wastrel> i want people on my LAN to be able to print to my printer - how do i set that up in CUPS?
[04:36] <Agamotto> karen:  Unplug the printer for 60sec, then plug back in
[04:36] <nomed> i mean .. nomed: on the livecd? no <--- is this the same if i'm not using the ubuntu live cd bootup struct .. (casper i think)
[04:37] <supergrover> howdy, just installed colony4 and my vfat partition is mounted readonly.
[04:37] <karen> Agamotto--- i will unplug it and go from there, if you have any other suggestions please email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS> thanks a bunch
[04:37] <dooglus> BlueEagle: I rebooted, trying "vga=ask", hoping it would allow me to try 790, 791, 792, but it didn't - it offered me a menu of different screen sizes, but none were any use.
[04:37] <supergrover> I can sort my fstab out myself, I just want to know,
[04:37] <bob2> nomed: if your question is "I'm making some random derivative of the livecd and I don't know what I'm doing", you're asking in the wrong place
[04:37] <dooglus> BlueEagle: so now I'm rebooting again, with a bunch of different lilo stanzas...
[04:37] <dooglus> BlueEagle: if that fails, I'll read that fb webpage
[04:38] <supergrover> Is this a design decision? Seems crazy to me.
[04:38] <Knelix> Ugh.
[04:38] <Knelix> I'm having a problem booting...
[04:38] <Knelix> It may not be a specific Ubunto problem.... But it booted so well before from the live CD....
[04:39] <Agamotto> Knelix:  Continue
[04:39] <Knelix> OK...
[04:39] <nomed> bob2, i'm switching from xfree to xorg ... i was using morphix mkxf86config script .. then i've tryed out dexconf + xdebconfigurator ..
[04:39] <bob2> nomed: then #morphix
[04:39] <Knelix> Well, I only have the CD/DVD drive connected.
[04:39] <BlueEagle> dooglus: You are aware that you need to translate it to grub, right?
[04:40] <Knelix> I just got a graphics card and installed and an old monitor to go with it.
[04:40] <wastrel> I'd like to allow ppl on my LAN to print to the USB printer on my ubuntu box, can anyone help with this?
[04:40] <bob2> nomed: if you just want to make a working live cd, base it on ubuntu and strip whatever you don't want
[04:40] <Agamotto> Knelix:  That is your problem.  The bootinstaller needs a volume to mount to
[04:40] <Knelix> Well, I boot up the system and it won't boot the Ubuntu Live CD.
[04:40] <misfit_toy> so did the latest xorg update hose everyone on breezy?
[04:40] <BlueEagle> dooglus: Either that or you'll need to install lilo.
[04:40] <Agamotto> Knelix:  check in the BIOS and see if it is set to allow booting from cdrom
[04:40] <misfit_toy> I'm in CLI right now using bitchx 'cause I have no gui
[04:41] <Knelix> Agamotto: But before I installed the card I tried it without the HDD and it booted up fine.
[04:41] <nba__> djm62: ok, i'll do that
[04:41] <Agamotto> Knelix:  Hmmmm.  Ok, so much for that idea.
[04:41] <bananaman> ok um... this probably gives away my horrific newbieness...but um... how do you uninstall programs? i want to get rid of evolution...
[04:41] <Knelix> Agamotto: I've been fiddling with the BIOS, but I don't even fully understand all its truncated options.
[04:41] <nba__> djm62: thanks again:)
[04:41] <Agamotto> Knelix:  what video card?
[04:42] <misfit_toy> bananaman be careful uninstalling evolution, I've heard bad things about doing that
[04:42] <BlueEagle> bananaman: sudo apt-get remove <programname>
[04:42] <misfit_toy> so did the latest xorg update hose everyone on breezy?
[04:42] <Knelix> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814121181
[04:42] <Agamotto> Knelix:  Summarise for me
[04:42] <dooglus> BlueEagle: I can't get grub to work at all.  I've always used lilo
[04:42] <BlueEagle> bananaman: But be careful as to what you un-install.
[04:42] <bob2> bananaman: why do you want to remove it?
[04:42] <Knelix> An Asus brand Geforce MX4000 128MB.
[04:42] <_n00blar_> Anyone that can recommend a backup application for ubuntu? Mainly I'd be backing up to DvD directories like /etc, /usr, /var, /home and others
[04:42] <BlueEagle> dooglus: Oh, well. Then you should be ok.
[04:43] <dooglus> BlueEagle: I tried 773, 790, 791 and 792.  the first 3 were all black, and the last one was apparently an illegal code.
[04:43] <misfit_toy> can someone post the wget command to get the nvidia drivers ver 7667 and 7174 here please?
[04:43] <pedro> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
[04:43] <pedro> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):     que coloco aqui??
[04:43] <BlueEagle> dooglus: ...however getting grub working ain't much brain surgery.
[04:43] <supergrover> Bug #1291: Mounted vfat partition is unreadable for non-root users. Opened 16 Sept 2004. Status: NEW. Ahem.
[04:43] <Knelix> I don't see how the card can be responsible for my woes, but perhaps I should try it with the onboard video just in case.
[04:43] <misfit_toy> no browsing
[04:43] <robotgeek> misfit_toy: lynx
[04:43] <bernhard> Hi there!
[04:43] <supergrover> oops. thought that was not writable. More fool me.
[04:43] <misfit_toy> robotgeek ubuntu has lynx? cool
[04:43] <bob2> pedro: this is an english channel
[04:43] <Agamotto> Knelix:  Ok.  I assume it is a recent card... sounds like either the BIOS is still trying to use on-board video, or the hardware detector just doesn't like your card
[04:43] <misfit_toy> lemme see
[04:44] <bob2> pedro: if you want mozilla, install the mozilla-browser package
[04:44] <tristanmike> Knelix, so it doesn't boot at all, just goes straight into windows?
[04:44] <dooglus> BlueEagle: I originally installed using the hoary install disk.  it installed a grub loader for me which completely screwed the machine - I could no longer boot windows, mandrake or ubuntu after that.  I eventually managed to repair it enough to accept the lilo loader.  i've tried grub again since, but it won't go.
[04:44] <pedro> ok thanks
[04:44] <Knelix> Agamotto: I am getting video on the Monitor.
[04:44] <bernhard> I have a little problem with my monitor's refresh rate.
[04:44] <bernhard> Anyon want to help?
[04:44] <HrdwrBoB> !resolution
[04:44] <ubotu> I guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:44] <HrdwrBoB> go there :)
[04:44] <Agamotto> Hrmmmm
[04:44] <Knelix> tristanmike: I don't have (ugh) Windoze installed... this is a brand new budget PC just for Ubuntu.
[04:45] <tristanmike> Knelix, oh, ok
[04:45] <dooglus> misfit_toy: the latest breezy update has hosed everything *except* x.org for me - ie. booting and virtual consoles.
[04:45] <BlueEagle> dooglus: 792 shouldn't be an illegal code tbh.
[04:45] <dooglus> misfit_toy: but X itself it fine
[04:45] <Knelix> tristanmike: I have a hard drive, but it is unformated (or rather has old data in HFS+ format)
[04:45] <BlueEagle> dooglus: Hang on, let meg get my breezy settings.
[04:45] <ZeroA4> pedro, Vc ta instalando um plugin, ne ? vc pode fazer instalao automatica sem ter que ficar usando isso... tb pode mudar de canal para o #Ubuntu-pt para podemos falar em portugues
[04:45] <dooglus> BlueEagle: I know.  I got 792 from one of the pages people just pasted.
[04:45] <misfit_toy> dooglus grrrrr
[04:45] <tristanmike> Knelix, yeah, that should be fine...
[04:45] <robotgeek> ZeroA4: #ubuntu-es
[04:45] <bananaman> i want to remove it because i dont use it
[04:46] <bananaman> and it annoys me to have things i dont use
[04:46] <dabaR> bob2: isnt that message, that pedro there had, from when you are installing some app?
[04:46] <Knelix> It boots up and gives me a screen saying "WinFast".
[04:46] <wastrel> anyone for configuring network printing in CUPS?
[04:46] <cafuego_> hmm, sand flavour
[04:46] <bob2> dabaR: hm? which message?
[04:46] <tristanmike> Knelix, already had it to boot the live cd? without a hard-drive, and on the old video card?
[04:46] <Agamotto> Knelix:  Ok, that is the flash screen for the video card
[04:46] <bernhard> I just need to change the refresh rate to something above 60 Hz, the option in the menu doesn't work. Any way to manually adjust it?
[04:46] <dabaR> bob2: input path of your web browser.
[04:46] <cafuego_> Knelix: that would be the VGA bios
[04:47] <BlueEagle> dooglus: apperantly breezy does something magic with initrd :/
[04:47] <Knelix> Then it tells me my CPU, memory, etc... then... Primary master hard disk fail, Primary Slave " fail, Secondary Master " fail.
[04:47] <bob2> dabaR: oh, right
[04:47] <dabaR> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
[04:47] <Agamotto> Knelix:  Sounds right, if you don't have a hd installed
[04:47] <ZeroA4> robotgeek, I was responding pedro... he wrote a line im portuguese... i asked him to go to a portuguese chanel
[04:47] <cafuego_> Knelix: That's not right. is everything plugged in correctly inside?
[04:48] <dooglus> BlueEagle: breezy has been fine for months - it's only the update of about an hour ago which broke my VCs
[04:48] <Pipe> I have a gpg question, anyone up for helping me?
[04:48] <Knelix> cafuego: Well, as far as I can see it is.. I check the IDE connectors, etc... and those seem fine.
[04:48] <supergrover> colony4 sets up a vfat partition as readonly. Bad design or bug? Anyone?
[04:48] <BlueEagle> dooglus: :)
[04:48] <BlueEagle> dooglus: That can happen.
[04:48] <tristanmike> Knelix, you didn't mess around with the jumpers did you?
[04:49] <Knelix> tristanmike: Yes, it booted fine without the card before.
[04:49] <dooglus> BlueEagle: can I see a list of the most recently updated packages anywhere?
[04:49] <concept10> some address a msg to me please (testing IRC in opera)
[04:49] <tristanmike> Knelix, you said you have onboard video? when you installed the card, did you turn the onboard video off?
[04:49] <dooglus> BlueEagle: like, I've forgotten what updates just came though...
[04:49] <benplaut> anyone gotten the latest Opera to work in breezy?
[04:50] <tristanmike> Knelix, in the BIOS?
[04:50] <Knelix> tristanmike: All I did was install the HDD and graphics card. Of course, I had to plug in the HDD to the power and IDE cable, but I've since uninstalled those.
[04:50] <dooglus> benplaut: yes.
[04:50] <Agamotto> concept10:  Can't, channel is currently blocking them
[04:50] <dooglus> benplaut: but I had to use the opera_static one, not the 'breezy' one
[04:50] <Knelix> tristanmike: Well, I tried to... Lemme take a look again... It uses the Phonenix AwardBios v6.00P
[04:51] <tristanmike> Knelix, what did you uninstall exactly?
[04:51] <Knelix> What is an AGP aperture size?
[04:51] <ako> baby boy
[04:52] <dooglus> benplaut: http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/opera/linux/850/final/en/i386/static/opera-static_8.50-20050916.1-qt_en_i386.deb worked for me in breezy
[04:52] <Agamotto> Knelix:  that is the amount of memory that the card is allowed to use... 64meg should be more that sufficient
[04:52] <Knelix> tristanmike: I disconnected the power and IDE cables from the HDD, since I thought it might be causing the problems.
[04:52] <robotgeek> ZeroA4: oh okay, my bad!
[04:52] <tristanmike> Knelix, so there is no hard drive connected to the compter?
[04:53] <Knelix> Agamotto: But this is a 128MB card...
[04:53] <Agamotto> Knelix:  Ok, take it up to 128 then
[04:53] <Knelix> tristanmike: That's right. But, like I said-- It booted fine without one before.
[04:53] <asker> baho mo pepe//
[04:54] <tristanmike> Knelix, the live cd did? and now you're trying to get the live cd to work again, with the new card and no hard drive?
[04:54] <Knelix> I don't see a way to completely disable the onboard video, only change the memory size and clockrate.
[04:54] <sambagirl> how do i recover my workspace?
[04:54] <bernhard> Bohooo, does noone know how to change the refresh rate?
[04:54] <sambagirl> the little thigns are gone from the taskbar
[04:54] <_n00blar_> Has anyone here used BackupPC? I'd like to know if it can backup to dvds before installing it
[04:54] <Knelix> tristanmike: That's right. So, only thing that is different (to my knowledge) is the card.
[04:55] <sambagirl> ubuntu includes 2 web browsers?
[04:56] <Knelix> The computer has a chip inside that says (actually its printed on its heatsink) Winfast, same as the onscreen logo I am presented with.
[04:56] <docles> ive added backports to sources.list, but the packages from backports ( java 1.5... ) is not appearing on synaptic, how can i solve it ?
[04:56] <sambagirl> whta is the other ubuntu channel?
[04:56] <Agamotto> Knelix:  That is your on-board video
[04:56] <tristanmike> Knelix, I didn't know the LiveCD would run without a hard drive, if you have onboard video there must be an option to turn onboard off, the two cards may be conflicting.
[04:57] <Agamotto> Knelix:  Is this an Emachines box, or something else?
[04:57] <mindframe> where can i set module aliases?
[04:57] <helix_> can anyone give me the link to ubuntus multi-universe
[04:57] <Knelix> Agamotto: I built it using a Foxconn barebones with a Sempron 2400+ CPU.
[04:58] <bob2> helix_: why?
[04:58] <Agamotto> Hmmm, ok.  So it isn't a 'fixed' motherboard most likely... Somewhere in the manual for the motherboard, there should be a way to shut off the on-board video
[04:58] <Pipe> I cant sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, when I try the gpg --clearsign U*** it asumes I'll be using my main key...the things is Im using a secondary key. How do I clearsign with a secondary key? Anyone? Please?
[04:58] <tristanmike> helix_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?action=show&redirect=HowToEnableTheMultiverseRepositoryInUbuntu
[04:58] <Knelix> tristanmike: I just started up with the monitor connected to the onboard VGA port and I'm not getting any image at all.
[04:59] <tristanmike> Knelix, no POST?
[04:59] <Knelix> Agamotto: i don't like the manual. It isn't very helpful at all.
[04:59] <bob2> Pipe: please don't be annoying
[04:59] <Knelix> tristanmike: Nothing. No image.
[04:59] <Agamotto> Knelix:  If you have plugged in the other video card, wouldn't you need to plug the monitor into THAT port?
[05:00] <tristanmike> Knelix, but just before, you at least got POST and now nothing?
[05:00] <bob2> Pipe: also, --default-key
[05:00] <helix_> tristanmike, i know how to add them, but what are the links?
[05:00] <helix_> or link repositories?
[05:00] <bob2> helix_: you don't need a "link" to it
[05:00] <bob2> helix_: you just add it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:01] <helix_> but whats name of the repository
[05:01] <bob2> helix_: multiverse
[05:01] <robotgeek> Pipe: also this might be useful. http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html
[05:01] <Knelix> tristanmike, Agamotto: Yes, of course, I was just testing. Yes, I was getting POST and BIOS access before... I'm thinking it just automatically turns off onboard video signal when there's a graphics card attached.
[05:01] <bob2> helix_: why don't you tell us what you're actually trying to do?
[05:01] <Pipe> thanks
[05:01] <Knelix> Ugh
[05:01] <Agamotto> ahhh, ok.  Rules out the stupid then
[05:01] <Agamotto> You would be amazed at how many people forget to plug the monitor into the new card
[05:01] <kongas> hi
[05:02] <kongas> sino kayo
[05:02] <Knelix> Hehe
[05:02] <Knelix> I don't understand why this is happening.
[05:02] <docles> how do i enable breezy backports ?
[05:03] <Agamotto> It does sound like a conflict
[05:03] <bob2> docles: wtf
[05:03] <Knelix> I'm going to unplug the machine and check all the cables.
[05:03] <bob2> docles: don't be silly
[05:03] <docles> bob2, take it easy, i am new to ubuntu, sorry if im making a dumb question.
[05:03] <tristanmike> Knelix, I suggest taking the card out, rebooting, going into the BIOS, look for an option to turn off the video, shut down, install new card and reboot
[05:03] <helix_> deb http://usr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multi-universe
[05:03] <helix_> is that okay to add?
[05:03] <Linner> hey ya'll
[05:03] <helix_> oops
[05:04] <bob2> docles: breezy isn't released yet
[05:04] <bob2> helix_: no
[05:04] <dabaR> docles: backports are versions of software from an unstable version fo rthe stable version. Breezy *is* the unstable version
[05:04] <Linner> I'm trying very hard to find the page on Ubuntu where you sign the code of conduct... I can't find it for the life of me and I'm a web developer!!!!
[05:04] <snausages> i cant wait for breezy
[05:04] <Linner> Can someone point me to the page?
[05:04] <bob2> Linner: signing it doesn't gain you anything useful
[05:04] <bob2> Linner: it's linked from your home page on launchpad.net
[05:04] <helix_> bob2, can you give me the right one?
[05:04] <Linner> bob2: that's ok...
[05:04] <dabaR> Linner, bob2, why would one sign the code?
[05:05] <docles> dabaR, ok. thanks; sorry for the silly question.
[05:05] <Linner> bob2: my home page?
[05:05] <bob2> docles: no idea
[05:05] <bob2> unless you're uploading packages to ubunt
[05:05] <bob2> u
[05:05] <snausages> bob2, you're very knowledgeable. i need a new NIC and would like to know if you can recommend where i could get a cheap one that'll work with ubuntu out of the box.
[05:05] <bob2> "MIC"?
[05:05] <bob2> microphone?
[05:05] <dabaR> docles: I dont find it bad.
[05:05] <Agamotto> snausages:  Pretty much anything from 3com
[05:05] <bob2> Linner: ...make a launchpad account
[05:05] <Knelix> tristanmike: I just unplugged the card... the heatsink was HOT!
[05:05] <bob2> or NIC?
[05:05] <Linner> it's suggested that one would do this when participating in IRC channels and forums.
[05:05] <bob2> my xterm is fucked in the head
[05:05] <ubuntu> .
[05:05] <snausages> bob2 i said NIC =)
[05:05] <bob2> Linner: it's of no advantage, tho
[05:05] <mindframe> god im killing myself over this bcm4306
[05:05] <snausages> Agamotto they all seem to be over $20 though
[05:05] <bob2> snausages: anything PCI should work
[05:06] <Linner> bob2: and it will automatically make a link there?
[05:06] <guest8> hi
[05:06] <bob2> Linner: ? if you want to sign the CoC (which is pointless), make a launchpad account
[05:06] <Linner> nalioth: hey you :)
[05:06] <dabaR> bob2: the post you addressed to docles was for me?
[05:06] <guest8> ellow.................
[05:06] <nalioth> grrrrrr
[05:06] <Linner> bob2: okey dokey
[05:06] <Linner> thanks
[05:06] <bob2> snausages: realtek tends to be shit, but are cheap
[05:06] <snausages> bob2 i think the one i have is PCI, but it's a crazy tulip thing
[05:06] <tristanmike> helix_, that should be fine, but put a second entry below that one with "-src" after deb on the second one.
[05:06] <Agamotto> snausages:  Yes, and some video cards are selling for over $400.  You also get more features with them :)
[05:06] <bob2> dabaR: er, right
[05:06] <bob2> snausages: that should work fine, too
[05:06] <dabaR> bob2: ok. How come you are swearing so much?
[05:06] <bob2> aside from APIC insnaity
[05:07] <bob2> dabaR: ?
[05:07] <snausages> Agamotto i'm aware... thing is, though, this pc is from 1998 and i don't want to invest too much into it =D
[05:07] <snausages> bob2 i couldnt make it work
[05:07] <carlos> I need some help please!!!! I have no sound my pc is HP4535 can any body help me?
[05:07] <Agamotto> snausages:  Fair enough
[05:07] <snausages> i asked round in the forums but people suggested that it wouldn't work
[05:08] <bob2> the forums people tend to be clueless
[05:08] <bob2> ime
[05:08] <wackymush> anyone want to help me with mp3 support in rhythmbox?
[05:08] <bob2> wackymush: read the faq, then install gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:08] <snausages> bob2 maybe so, but in here it's very hard to get help at times, which is understandable
[05:08] <wackymush> ok. is the faq on ubuntu,.com ?
[05:08] <bob2> wackymush: the one that is in the channel topic
[05:08] <bob2> snausages: I'd try the user list ahead of the forums
[05:09] <wackymush> ok thanks
[05:09] <snausages> i'm sorry, user list?
[05:09] <bob2> snausages: lists.ubuntu.com
[05:09] <snausages> oh thanks
[05:09] <snausages> i'll try that too
[05:10] <mindframe> bob2, feel like helping me out with this wretched wireless card?
[05:10] <Knelix> tristanmike, Agamotto: After unplugging the card and and loading default BIOS settings it's now loading Ubuntu off of the LiveCD.
[05:10] <bob2> not unless you ask a specific question
[05:10] <Mr_Z> Hi, can anyone tell me where to find the official repostories for Ubuntu?
[05:10] <robotgeek_away> mindframe: what does the ndiswrapper wiki say?
[05:10] <mindframe> robotgeek_away, didnt help a bit
[05:10] <robotgeek_away> !tell Mr_Z about repos
[05:10] <Knelix> Can this have anything to do with this being the Preview version LiveCD?
[05:11] <Agamotto> Knelix:  Ok, either a conflict with the two video boards, or the hardware finder on the disc doesn't like your card
[05:11] <bob2> Mr_Z: in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:11] <Agamotto> Knelix:  Possibly, but unlikely
[05:11] <helix_> i am in the need for the repositories that come with java, azureus and mplayer
[05:11] <tristanmike> Knelix, that's good to hear, but my vote is still for the BIOS setting to turn off your onboard. I couldn't tell you what the option might becalled, I tend to stray away from onboard video
[05:11] <helix_> the multiverse dont give me anything
[05:12] <Agamotto> helix_:  Java is direct from Sun, no repository
[05:12] <helix_> Agamotto, once i added some repos to the ubuntu sources.list and installed java and azureus with no problem
[05:12] <helix_> but i forgot them
[05:12] <tristanmike> Ok I'm confused, a lot of people are having trouble with java, I installed it via the "extras" repo, and had no problem, is it no longer there??
[05:13] <Agamotto> Helix_:  Must be the Nerim sites
[05:13] <dabaR> tristanmike: yes.
[05:13] <helix_> tristanmike, can you give me the name of the repo?
[05:13] <tristanmike> dabaR, it's been removed?
[05:13] <Agamotto> Java Run Time, or just Java Script
[05:13] <dabaR> tristanmike: no, they lost it. what do you think?
[05:13] <dePOLL> tristanmike: as are the w32codecs. legal issues..
[05:14] <tristanmike> When did all of this happen?
[05:15] <helix_> well..time to install java manually
[05:15] <helix_> fsck!
[05:15] <cat> enjoy
[05:15] <bob2> yay for people writing free software in proprietary languages
[05:16] <dabaR> bob2: :)
[05:16] <dePOLL> tristanmike: nobody knows. most likely they created some hullabaloo like some emmy award show or stuff and removed tons of packages without us noticing it. oooh, those evil b****!
[05:16] <dabaR> bob2: I think that is cause the software was proprietary at some point.
[05:17] <Agamotto> Time to kill off some legal departments
[05:17] <tristanmike> dePOLL, lol
[05:17] <dabaR> bob2: what are some examples...OOo, Eclipse...what else?
[05:17] <trigger_ph> if anyone can help please...how do u authenticate to a windows PDC on samba? i've edited /etc/cups/printers.conf, particularly the DeviceURI directive, but still can't authenticate properly.
[05:17] <tristanmike> dePOLL, sneaky friggers
[05:18] <wastrel> can anyone help me get IP printing set up so clients on my LAN can print to my ubuntu box?
[05:18] <dabaR> trigger_ph: what document are you following?
[05:18] <dabaR> wastrel: what OS do the clients run?
[05:18] <dePOLL> tristanmike: well, those open source guys.. you never know what they are capable of. or as george would say "if you use open source, the terrorists win". the communists. whatever.. it's not in the repos any more ;)
[05:18] <wastrel> os x & linux
[05:18] <trigger_ph> dabaR: just the conf i'm afraid
[05:18] <bob2> dabaR: azureus was always GPL, afaik
[05:19] <dabaR> trigger_ph: there is a samba wiki page...
[05:19] <tristanmike> OMG I just read through the Java how-to, man that is some BS, I don't understand, since they weren't even endorsed by Ubuntu, right?
[05:20] <Rylie> asdfjhasdlk
[05:20] <Rylie> hey everyone
[05:20] <Knelix2> Hey
[05:20] <trigger_ph> dabaR: DeviceURI smb://<uname>:<passwd>@<host>/<printer_share_name> <-- googled this, but won't work. can I please have the samba wiki page uri?
[05:20] <trigger_ph> dabaR: thanks!
[05:20] <dabaR> trigger_ph: good luck. Hope that helps.
[05:21] <Knelix2> I'm chatting via the PC, so Internet works at least.
[05:21] <Knelix2> Is there any way to choose a screen resolution not listed by the GNOME control panel?
[05:21] <dePOLL> tristanmike: as i understand it it's just a precaution to prevent the repo-guys from getting into *potential* trouble
[05:22] <dePOLL> Knelix2: edit the Xorg.conf
[05:22] <dooglus> is there any documentation for metacity anywhere?  alt-tab has started blacking out windows in an ugly manner...
[05:22] <Knelix2> Hmm.
[05:22] <tristanmike> dePOLL, so what do people do about mp3 now?
[05:23] <Knelix2> Oh, well I'll guess I should worry about that later... lemme go ahead, instal the card and try to boot again...
[05:23] <dabaR> dooglus: what windows? all of them?
[05:23] <wastrel> dabaR, I think i have the cupsd.conf file set up correctly.  but i'm getting an error in the cups error log about resource name "/ipp" being no good
[05:24] <wastrel> i think it's a client configuration problem
[05:24] <dePOLL> tristanmike: dunno. i'm not really into all this legal chitchat..
[05:24] <tristanmike> dePOLL, all i can say is crap! Thanx for the info
[05:24] <dabaR> wastrel: ask Seveas
[05:24] <dooglus> dabaR: here's what happens:  press and hold ALT, then tap and release TAB to switch to the next window.  if I then hold ALT, the window I've switched to is all black.  I can't see its content until I let go of ALT.  this makes it hard to identify whether I'm switching to the right window or not.
[05:25] <dooglus> dabaR: I'm not sure when this started happening, but it's quite recent I think.
[05:25] <Knelix> What is a Video BIOS shadow?
[05:25] <Marxist> when the computer saves the video bios into ram
[05:25] <Belutz> anyone, when i shutdown my ubuntu, it hangs with the message "could not connect to database" i don't know what's wrong
[05:25] <Marxist> for faster access
[05:25] <Marxist> cause rom is usually slower than ram
[05:25] <dabaR> dooglus: isnt there a list of apps in the middle of your screen when you do that?
[05:26] <dePOLL> We are currently engineering other ways to provide these packages that do not suffer from these issues.".
[05:26] <dooglus> dabaR: do you see the same behaviour?
[05:26] <dePOLL> tristanmike: you're welcome. as john dong points out: " ^
[05:26] <Knelix> Marxist: Should I have that enabled if I am running via a card, rather than onboard graphics?
[05:26] <dooglus> dabaR: there is, yes, but I'm used to looking at the window contents, not the names.
[05:26] <wastrel> seveas: i'm trying to set up clients to print to my ubuntu box, but i'm getting an error in my cups error log when i try to print over the network about resource name '/ipp' being no good.  what should i look for?
[05:26] <Marxist> i should be fine without that option
[05:26] <Marxist> it*(
[05:27] <dabaR> dooglus: I ue openbox, so I dont know.
[05:27] <Marxist> i don't think it would be safe to enable that with linux
[05:27] <dooglus> dabaR: oh, ok
[05:27] <Marxist> linux takes over the PC once the bios hands over the hardware
[05:27] <Marxist> takes over when*
[05:28] <misfit_toy> no joy, I guess I'll wait til xorg gets updated in the next 15 minutes or 15 day
[05:29] <misfit_toy> you would think the GUI itself would be kinda important to test, duh.
[05:29] <theblue_> ?
[05:29] <Marxist> ah i give up on correct spelling , i just came from work, I'm tired
[05:29] <misfit_toy> bbl
[05:29] <Knelix> Booting from the CD with the video card!!!
[05:29] <Knelix> What was wrong: I have no idea-- Perhaps a BIOS setting.
[05:30] <Agamotto> Knelix:  Qapla'
[05:30] <dePOLL> Knelix: Yeah what's that for? You admit that you have no idea however the first thing to blame is your poor little BIOS. shame on you!
[05:32] <Knelix> dePOLL: :-P
[05:32] <Knelix> Actually, it was probably something I did... but, no matter...
[05:33] <dePOLL> :)
[05:33] <Agamotto> Just as long as you don't allow the blue smoke out of the case
[05:33] <tristanmike> dePOLL, I think it might be BIOS related cause he can boot with onboard, but not when he installes the card, and he said he didn't shut down the onboard vid, so sounds like a conflict, no?
[05:33] <Knelix> Is the graphics card suppose to get so hot??
[05:33] <Agamotto> It can
[05:34] <dePOLL> Knelix: it is not supposed to, but it may :D
[05:34] <Knelix> dePOLL: I mean, not like I'm running some intensive game... it's just GNOME...
[05:34] <dePOLL> tristanmike: yeah, i had my sleepless nights due too irq-conflicts and stuff too :/ sucks when you have to decide whether you want to use your video  or network card today coz both is not possible.. :)
[05:35] <dePOLL> Knelix: as long as you don't have some very high end card with a broken fan it should be alright
[05:35] <toxicle> hi guys ... my card is not getting an ip from dhcp .. how do i set static ip?
[05:36] <WebLOCH> Hey guys
[05:36] <dabaR> toxicle: you have a router?
[05:36] <toxicle> dabaR: yes i do
[05:36] <WebLOCH> allo dabaR
[05:36] <dabaR> yp WebLOCH.
[05:37] <toxicle> dabaR: it worked fine till i plugged out the cable
[05:37] <wastrel> rehi.  i'm getting this error in /var/log/cups/error_log when i try to print from mac over the LAN to CUPS on ubuntu:   get_printer_attrs: resource name '/ipp' no good!
[05:37] <wastrel> anyone know what to do to fix?
[05:37] <dabaR> toxicle, have you rebooted the hardware?
[05:37] <dePOLL> dabaR: /etc/network/interfaces for setting up your (surprise) interfaces. dhclient for trying to get a new ip via dhcp
[05:37] <ColonelKernel> has anyone here tried a 2.6.13+ kernel on breezy preview?
[05:38] <toxicle> dabaR: yes
[05:38] <toxicle> anyways
[05:38] <toxicle> i want to set a static ip
[05:38] <dabaR> dePOLL: what are you talking about?
[05:38] <sPYder---> where can i get a complete commands for console??? in ubuntu of course
[05:38] <dabaR> toxicle: well. do you use gnome?
[05:38] <toxicle> dabaR: yes i do
[05:38] <toxicle> but only on my desktop
[05:38] <ouroboros> hello
[05:38] <dabaR> sPYder---: complete commands?
[05:38] <toxicle> dabaR: console way?
[05:38] <dePOLL> dabaR: apparently i prefixed my msg with the wrong nick, sry.. concerned toxicle's problem..
[05:39] <dabaR> toxicle: and, would you like this set up with a terminal, or a GUI?
[05:39] <ouroboros> I still need help : ATI All in Wonder Pro, ubuntu hoary, amd64 - need to enable direct rendering
[05:39] <sPYder---> dabaR is there?
[05:39] <toxicle> dabaR: terminal thanks
[05:39] <ouroboros> it's been a week
[05:39] <Knelix> Graphics are still molasas slow.. I guess that means I need drivers.
[05:39] <dabaR> sPYder---: whats that mean?
[05:39] <tomsdimension> hello
[05:39] <sPYder---> commands
[05:39] <ouroboros> ati
[05:39] <tomsdimension> does anybody know if there is a ubuntuguide for breezy?
[05:39] <benkong2> ping
[05:39] <tomsdimension> or where can i find repositories for breezy
[05:40] <toxicle> !repos
[05:40] <ubotu> from memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:40] <sPYder---> !commands
[05:40] <ubotu> commands is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[05:40] <benkong2> wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpdates
[05:40] <dabaR> toxicle: set up something like http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2446 in your /etc/network/interfaces file, to get a static IP.
[05:40] <benkong2> wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes sorry
[05:41] <toxicle> ElBarono_: just do that and reboot?
[05:41] <Knelix> Wow... keyboard media keys work in Ubuntu...
[05:41] <toxicle> dabaR: just do that and reboot?
[05:41] <Knelix> Very nice.
[05:42] <phrizer> Hm, whenever i try and resize the window in totem, the video itself doesnt stretch. Instead it just seems to stop repainting the extra (new) area.
[05:42] <jims> Hello, I just loaded Ubuntu on my laptop last week and learning how to use Linux & Evolution.  Can anyone answer a question about the Address Book?
[05:42] <toxicle> can i "ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>" ?
[05:42] <dabaR> toxicle: there is no rebooting in linux, pretty much. you turn off then on the interface. sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0
[05:42] <toxicle> dabaR: ok thanks
[05:42] <dabaR> toxicle: I dont know.
[05:43] <dabaR> jims: it depends on what the question is.
[05:43] <dabaR> phrizer: do you have another movie window open?
[05:43] <ice_1963> you can use killall gnome-panel :0)
[05:43] <jims> I am used to Thunderbird collecting e-mail addresses, but Evolution does not seem to keep them for future use...
[05:43] <Xenguy> iandexter: please turn that off
[05:44] <dabaR> ice_1963: what are you saying?
[05:44] <JDahl> jims, I think you manually have to right click a sender and add it to the address book
[05:44] <dabaR> jims: you can also install thunderbird, even.
[05:44] <jims> JDahl: Thanks! I'll try that...
[05:44] <dabaR> jims: dunno if that is teh right thing to do, tho.
[05:45] <JDahl> dabaR, what do you mean? that's how Evolution does it...
[05:45] <ice_1963> instead of rebooting ok
[05:45] <crimsun> !resolution
[05:45] <ubotu> well, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:45] <jims> dabaR: I was trying to use Evoluiton, becasue I think I can sync with my phone & PDA...
[05:46] <Agamotto> Time to do some analog reading
[05:46] <jims> dabaR: Also, as a newbie, I wanted to keep things as stable as possible before trying to load more programs...
[05:47] <sPYder---> if i am using a root terminal... does it mean that i am using the root acct? / privilege?
[05:47] <tomsdimension> all those repositories are for hoary
[05:47] <tomsdimension> are there some for breezy?
[05:47] <ice_1963> nop lol
[05:47] <bimberi> sPYder---: yes
[05:48] <ice_1963> were
[05:48] <jims> JDahl: That works!  I knew it had to be something simple...
[05:48] <cx22> hello everyone! can someone help me in installing wine? im a newbie in Ubuntu
[05:48] <sPYder---> bimberi acct?
[05:49] <cx22> hello everyone! can someone help me in installing wine? im a newbie in Ubuntu!!!
[05:49] <JDahl> jims, yes, you may or may not like how Evolution works, but it's a decent piece of software
[05:49] <ice_1963> apt-get install wine
[05:49] <crimsun> cx22: enable the universe repository and install wine
[05:49] <cx22> how? and where can i find it?
[05:49] <cx22> i really have no idea here
[05:50] <Sonny_Wertzik> has anyone here succesfully compiled the new MPlayer-1.0pre7try2 with GUI?
[05:50] <ice_1963> better yet install window's :0)
[05:50] <bimberi> sPYder---: it's a root login shell, confirm so with "echo $USER"
[05:50] <crimsun> cx22: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:50] <cx22> i was a windows user. but now im tryin to learn liux
[05:50] <cx22> im gonna check that out... thanks crimsum!
[05:51] <GrannyTux> hey whats up with java
[05:51] <ice_1963> not by installing wine
[05:51] <GrannyTux> filename change?
[05:51] <sPYder---> how can i refresh my gnome panel?
[05:51] <phrizer> dabaR, Nope, no other window
[05:51] <GrannyTux> no get from apt-get and yes souces.list edited
[05:51] <chx> is  there a Sun JRE apt source for breezy?
[05:52] <TTilus> sPYder---: define "refresh"
[05:52] <dabaR> GrannyTux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:52] <TTilus> sPYder---: its always fresh, how come?
[05:52] <ice_1963> if you can do it in window's you can do it in linux
[05:52] <ice_1963> linux rock's
[05:52] <bimberi> no spyder, you don't have to log out to do that :)
[05:52] <TTilus> ice_1963: hang the machine w/ie bug too?
[05:53] <JDahl> I fell for the temptation to upgrade to Breezy and my sound stopped working. I have no clue what to look, because everything appears OK, I can even get gnome sound-server sounds. I just can't get any audio output from regular programs. Any suggestions for bug-hunting?
[05:53] <dabaR> phrizer: I do not think I was talking to you b4.
[05:54] <phrizer> dabaR phrizer: do you have another movie window open?
[05:54] <Turicas> i want to play more than one sound per time...how i can do it? eg: if a music is playing on xmms and i execute "play abc.wav", the sound abc.wav is played AFTER i stop the music on xmms (or the music finishes)
[05:54] <cat> !fasttrack
[05:54] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, cat
[05:54] <TTilus> JDahl: start "regular programs" from console, with verbatim output, if possible, and watch what they say about audio
[05:54] <crimsun> Turicas: are you using Hoary or Breezy?
[05:54] <dabaR> phrizer: then I dont know. what graphics card do you ahve? on board?
[05:54] <Turicas> crakrjak, 5.04
[05:54] <Turicas> ops
[05:54] <Turicas> crimsun, 5.04
[05:54] <TTilus> ubotu: write english?
[05:54] <ubotu> TTilus: I give up, what is it?
[05:55] <crimsun> Turicas: if you're using Turicas, read alsa.opensrc.org about dmix
[05:55] <phrizer> SiS, onboard, it was all working good a week or so ago
[05:55] <GrannyTux> thx
[05:55] <anacaona> hello
[05:55] <Turicas> crimsun, tkz.. :)
[05:55] <anacaona> hey all
[05:55] <TTilus> ubotu: ?!
[05:55] <JDahl> TTilus, I dont get any error messages from mplayer, xmms, totem, cdplayer etc
[05:55] <ubotu> TTilus: Are you smoking crack?
[05:55] <anacaona> need help with groupware on ubuntu
[05:56] <TTilus> JDahl: check mixer, you may have something muted tjsp
[05:56] <Turicas> crimsun, excuse me..can you repeat please?
[05:56] <crimsun> Turicas: if you're using Hoary, read alsa.opensrc.org about dmix
[05:56] <anacaona> i installed both php and egroupware from synaptic but neither work.
[05:56] <TTilus> s/tjsp/oslt  (leaked my nativity)  :D
[05:57] <anacaona> when i go to http://localhost/egroupware (or phpgroupware)/ i get a file not found error.
[05:57] <furic> Why, in nautilus, when i go on my my web servers ftp and select view->Show Hidden Files, i cannot see a .htaccess file in the directory, but on the same computer, connecting to the same server, looking in the same directory, i can see the .htaccess in konqueror?
[05:57] <Echelon-H> what's the console command for ubuntu update manager
[05:57] <JDahl> TTilus, nothing muted either. But I dont wonder why I can suddenly choose between "Intel 82801 (Alsa)" and "Analog Devices (OSS Mixer)"; that's something new I think
[05:58] <furic> On hoary
[05:59] <TTilus> JDahl: check both alsa and oss mixers
[05:59] <JDahl> TTilus, I did that also, with no luck. I think I used Alsa under Hoary, so I guess I should stick with Alsa, right?
[05:59] <TTilus> JDahl: do you have soundcard _and_ embedded sound too?
[06:00] <cafuego_> furic: You'll find that after changing that pref and restarting naultilus, it'll show just fine.
[06:00] <JDahl> TTilus, I have an IBM tp40, god knows what's inside it
[06:00] <TTilus> JDahl: yes, i think, ...
[06:00] <cafuego_> JDahl: 'lspci' knows
[06:00] <TTilus> JDahl: ah, portable, no double sounds then, propably
[06:01] <furic> I have to restart the app just to get it to stop hiding . prefixed files? thats insane.
[06:01] <TTilus> JDahl: try different sound outputs with mplayer (choose from setup)
[06:01] <Sonny_Wertzik> has anyone here succesfully compiled the new MPlayer-1.0pre7try2 with GUI?
[06:02] <furic> Ok, problem, i close and reopen, and its unset the show hidden files setting, so restarting is not only a stupid way to fix it, but it can't possibly work too
[06:02] <JDahl> TTilus, I tried all of those, also without luck - I never had problems with sound before, and the gnome sound is actually working (but I disabled it so it would lock /dev/dsp)
[06:03] <JDahl> *gnome sound server with BELLs etc
[06:04] <TTilus> JDahl: weirdo
[06:04] <dabaR> JDahl: I have a suggestion. wait a sec tho.
[06:04] <wastrel> hi again.  anyone on who can help me configure a mac client to print to CUPS on my ubuntu system? i'm having trouble figuring out the address of the print queue to use...
[06:04] <dabaR> crimsun: is the udev bud fixed?
[06:04] <TTilus> Don't gnome sound use esound?
[06:04] <opteek> anyone know of a possible reason why after shutting down my system properly, and then starting it up again many hours later, the owner and group of my .IceAuthority file where changed to root????
[06:04] <cafuego_> dabar: the x mouse one? yes.,
[06:05] <crimsun> dabaR: as of 14, yes
[06:05] <dabaR> as of 2 pm?
[06:05] <TTilus> wastrel: http://host:port/printers/printername  ?
[06:05] <dabaR> crimsun: oh, the 14 version?
[06:06] <JDahl> TTilus, I enabled all 200 switches in the gnome mixer, and it turned out that Head Phone Jack Sense was unchecked, and for some reason muted my output
[06:06] <dabaR> JDahl: when is the last time you updated the system?
[06:06] <opteek> updating the system is for losers
[06:06] <JDahl> dabaR, a couple of nights ago
[06:06] <TTilus> JDahl: didn't i say to check the mixer  :D
[06:06] <dabaR> JDahl: is it fixed?
[06:06] <opteek> i am running xfree 0.0.4
[06:06] <JDahl> dabaR, yes
[06:06] <wastrel> TTilus, that's the one.  tyvm
[06:06] <JDahl> TTilus, indeed you did :S
[06:06] <cafuego_> 0.0.4?
[06:07] <dabaR> opteek: thank you. Your opinion really matters to me,
[06:07] <nalioth> opteek: it's a common problem (the .ICEauthority)
[06:08] <opteek> nalioth, really? in ubuntu? ive never experienced it before..
[06:08] <nalioth> opteek: just switch consoles, rm it and proceed to login to your gui
[06:08] <TTilus> JDahl: could it be that you have non-multiplexing sound, so if your laptop thinks input is on, then output is off?
[06:08] <enntee> is it wise to update to breezy right now? i'm using hoary-backports as well
[06:08] <el_toro> enntee, works fine for me, but ymmv
[06:09] <enntee> el_toro: good enough for me. apt-get time.
[06:09] <dabaR> HaHa.
[06:09] <dabaR> heh
[06:09] <JDahl> TTilus, that could be... I dont think this audio driver has multiplexing
[06:09] <dooglus> is there anyone here who uses breezy and GNOME?
[06:10] <opteek> many people
[06:10] <el_toro> tons
[06:10] <opteek> the majority
[06:10] <deFrysk> noone want breezy and kde
[06:10] <dooglus> would one of them please tell me how ALT-TAB works for them?  what it shows during the process of doing an ALT-TAB?
[06:10] <cx22> can i ask again?
[06:11] <el_toro> dooglus, it pulls up the nice alt+tab box and switches from app to app for me
[06:11] <ice_1963> i love useing streamtuner and xmms
[06:11] <dooglus> el_toro: if you hold ALT and press TAB over and over, does it show you each window in turn?
[06:12] <JDahl> dooglus, yes
[06:12] <el_toro> dooglus, erm...not quite...it just highlights each window with a black border, it doesn't pull them to the front or anything
[06:12] <opteek> has anyone here tried running mathematica under some sort of emulator?
[06:12] <dooglus> el_toro: I took some pictures of what it does for me.  here I am switching to my 'gaim' window.  I've hit TAB and am still holding alt: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/Screenshot-67.png
[06:12] <dooglus> and here I am after I let go of ALT: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/Screenshot-68.png
[06:12] <sri> hi folks.. does anybody have dosbox running under breezy?
[06:13] <sri> I get a segmentation fault
[06:13] <dooglus> el_toro: as you can see, it completely blats the window with black...  this is a bug then?
[06:13] <logical_mark> Hey I have a friend who just tried to book the LIVE version of Ubuntu on his Acer laptop. It is stoping right after the message, uncompressing linux... is it b/c he was using an external firewire cd/dvd rom?
[06:13] <cx22> guys!!! please help me!!! how can i install tar.gz files on my ubuntu?
[06:13] <logical_mark> *book - boot
[06:13] <el_toro> dooglus, got me, i can't reproduce it--just gives me the regular black outline
[06:13] <dooglus> cx22: you can extract a .tar.gz file by running "tar xfz file.tar.gz"
[06:13] <harrison> why cant i insert ndiswrapper module?  it returns with: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted   (yes i used sudo)
[06:13] <deFrysk> cx22, why would you want to do that ??
[06:14] <sri> tar.gz files are just like zip it's just an archive stuff
[06:14] <dooglus> cx22: you're up-to-date with the breezy updates of a few hours ago?
[06:14] <sri> better question to ask is what do you want to do with it?
[06:14] <opteek> logical_mark, it can be many things
[06:14] <dooglus> ^-- sorry, that was meant for el_toro
[06:14] <opteek> logical_mark, but I would suggest downloading and burning another image
[06:14] <nalioth> !tell cx22 about cli
[06:14] <opteek> logical_mark, perhaps run a checksum before burning
[06:14] <logical_mark> opteek - only a noob a to linux, not diagnosing a problem. I have booted this same cd on 3 computers
[06:14] <el_toro> dooglus, well im not sure what was updated a few hours ago..but afaik yes
[06:15] <dooglus> el_toro: a new kernel, for one.
[06:15] <el_toro> dooglus, ah, yes got those
[06:15] <dooglus> uname -r ==> 2.6.12-9-386
[06:15] <ice_1963> Does ubuntu have xfce4 in it's sources.list?
[06:15] <cafuego_> Wow, shsf is spectacularly buggy.
[06:15] <marius__> hello everyone
[06:15] <deFrysk> ice_1963, yes
[06:15] <logical_mark> opteek, have you heard of a problem booting off a firewire cd drive
[06:16] <BenderNZ> hihi - is today a good day to upgrade from hoary to breezy? (ie is there any major issues in the release packages today)
[06:16] <ice_1963> ok that's good
[06:16] <sri> hmm..looks like dosbox is not a well supported package.
[06:16] <cafuego_> BenderNZ: not as far as I can tell, but tomorrow might be, so why not wait until it's reelased?
[06:16] <opteek> logical_mark, no experience with firewire
[06:16] <dooglus> BenderNZ: today is the worst I've seen breezy at for a while
[06:16] <deFrysk> BenderNZ, no major issues today (on my box that is)
[06:16] <BenderNZ> ick
[06:16] <logical_mark> opteek, thanks anyway.
[06:17] <BenderNZ> I went to apt-get dist-upgrade anyways and got dependancy issues for ubuntu-desktop
[06:17] <BenderNZ> guess I'll wait a bit longer ;(
[06:17] <logical_mark> Has anyone had issues booting ubuntu from a firewire cd/dvd rom drive?
[06:17] <cafuego_> BenderNZ: Yep, that's right.
[06:17] <TTilus> cx22: why would you want to?
[06:18] <vbgunz> hello everyone!
[06:18] <vbgunz> I have severakl quick questions... asking for info more than direction...
[06:18] <hery> hi hello
[06:19] <cx22> i want to install AdobeReader, FlashPlayer and Java environment
[06:19] <hery> this is hero
[06:19] <cx22> can't seem to know how.
[06:19] <cx22> i have totally no idea about ubuntu
[06:19] <hery> can u bemy frend
[06:19] <cafuego_> cx22: i386?
[06:19] <hery> were u fropm
[06:19] <cx22> Ubuntu 5.04 i386
[06:20] <cafuego_> hery: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:20] <vbgunz> 1. My grub menu on breezy has many different Ubuntu installs all pointing to different kernels... 2. Is there a way to right click a file and login into it as admin? 3. Why when Breezy starts up all these partition and disk drive windows open?
[06:20] <BenderNZ> cx22: check out the wiki
[06:20] <cafuego_> cx22: Start at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/java
[06:20] <ice_1963> so apt-get and install it
[06:20] <cx22> i've downloaded those files and can't seem to know how to install it
[06:20] <dooglus> aah.  problem solved...  I got rid of the black boxes.  :)
[06:20] <cafuego_> Which files, the .bin ones?
[06:20] <cx22> apt-get wont work
[06:21] <dr_willis> vbgunz, you mean when you login and GNOME starts up... it auto opens some windows.. Like all the usb drives..
[06:21] <cx22> i've already installed wine... thanks to crimsum
[06:21] <dooglus> I ran "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" earlier and that removed the Module section from my xorg.conf.  Putting it back in fixed the problem.
[06:21] <cx22> i'll check the wiki... be back later
[06:22] <vbgunz> yes it opens all the drives...
[06:22] <cafuego_> cx22: Click the JavaPackageBuildNewVersions link.
[06:22] <esac> dance monkey boy, dance
[06:22] <vbgunz> dr_willis... this never happened on Hoary... I just noticed this with Breezy
[06:22] <ice_1963> yeah apt-get install wine
[06:22] <Hendric> i got problem with my RAID drive being detected by ubuntu as 2 separate drives.. how can i mount this RAID drive? (my ubuntu is on an IDE drive and i want to mount my RAID)
[06:22] <kairu0> anyone know which repository quodlibet is in?
[06:22] <logical_mark> Hey if I want to add a drive to fstab so it will be automatocly mounted and the drive is, /dev/hda1 , how do I insert that into fstab?
[06:22] <bur[n] er> dooglus: same thing happened to me awhile back
[06:22] <dr_willis> vbgunz,  thats by designe i think. :P actually I just booted and it DIDENT do it this time.. I think you can close the drive windows and it may rember that. save the session perhaps.
[06:23] <cafuego_> Hendric: Linux doesn't support that sort of software raid.
[06:23] <dooglus> bur[n] er: did you report it?
[06:23] <dooglus> bur[n] er: if not, I will.  it's a bug, right?
[06:23] <Hendric> its not a software raid.. im using promise raid PCI card
[06:23] <bob2> logical_mark: copy an existing line, change the details
[06:23] <JDahl> Nautilus has really become a lot easier to use in Breezy!
[06:23] <bur[n] er> dooglus: all you ;)  I think it's well known, but check bugzilla
[06:23] <cafuego_> Hendric: Yes, that's software raid.
[06:23] <dooglus> all me?
[06:23] <vbgunz> I tried saving the sessions before but haven't tried lately... I just downloaded some updates and maybe that helped... I'll need to check...
[06:23] <cafuego_> Hendric: it sues software in the card's bios and a proprietary windows driver.
[06:23] <bur[n] er> dooglus: it's all you to follow up on reporting ;)
[06:23] <ice_1963> vi /etc/apt/sources.list that's it
[06:24] <bur[n] er> dooglus: in other words, i'm too lazy right now
[06:24] <Hendric> so there's no way i can mount this?
[06:24] <dooglus> bur[n] er: against the xorg-server package?
[06:24] <cafuego_> Hendric: *maybe* promise have a closed-source driver.. check their website...
[06:24] <bur[n] er> dooglus: xserver-xorg rather
[06:24] <dooglus> xserver-xorg I mean
[06:25] <vbgunz> this is a bit annoying... I am new to Linux and appreciate the whole logging into everything with a password... Is there a way to maintain that *but* have the ability to login into a terminal from a folder?
[06:25] <Hendric> another question. is there a way to have a webcam chat on ubuntu? like YM on windows...
[06:25] <bob2> yes
[06:26] <BenderNZ> Hendric: look in Applications > Internet > Gnome Meeting
[06:26] <bob2> vbgunz: "login into a terminal from a folder"?
[06:26] <cafuego_> Hendric: Not until either ym is fixed (the Linux apckage is severaly broken) or gaim-vv is useable.
[06:26] <ice_1963> bob r /u in Debian?
[06:26] <Hendric> gaim-vv?? does it support webcam??
[06:26] <BenderNZ> yes
[06:26] <dooglus> bur[n] er: well, I can't find it, if it is well known.
[06:26] <bob2> ice_1963: I use both, yes
[06:26] <Hendric> OMG.. gonna try dat..
[06:26] <cafuego_> Hendric: No, it WILL support webcams.
[06:26] <vbgunz> yeah... sort of like Command line here... if I right click a folder, within the menu would be "command line here" or something similar
[06:27] <ice_1963> me to lol
[06:27] <cafuego_> Hendric: It's not ready yet.
[06:27] <furic> I think kopete supports msn webcams now (or very soon)
[06:27] <Hendric> ah ok
[06:27] <ice_1963> but sid will do
[06:27] <Hendric> should i find a linux driver for my webcam first? or d program got some generics to that??
[06:28] <esac> i was doing an ubuntu hardware report, and went to upload it and it failed, so it saved it to my desktop and asked me to email it somewhere. i forgot where to email it to. anybody know ?
[06:28] <cafuego_> Hendric: Depends, if it supports v4l it should be fine.
[06:28] <bob2> esac: heh, did you file a bug on anjuta?
[06:29] <vbgunz> its just a biot annoying and much of it is my fault but being new I have to refresh my memory and navigate to a folder through Nautilus... Then I have to launch a terminal and bite the path bit for bit... It would just be simpler if I could command line directly from the folder *if this is possible*
[06:29] <vbgunz> It should be, but I am still a n00b
[06:29] <esac> bob2: yep
[06:29] <bob2> vbgunz: install nautilus-open-terminal
[06:29] <esac> bob2: obviously i figured that the issue was that my project name had spaces in it, but it wasnt very clear as to why
[06:29] <vbgunz> ok apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[06:29] <vbgunz> going for it
[06:30] <Hendric> I can't compile a certain XMMS plugin coz it says.. *** The glib-config script installed by GLIB could not be found <-- itried to install all packages related to that on synaptics.. but still got the same error.. how can i fix this?
[06:30] <bur[n] er> bob2: thank you so much... iw as loooking for that package :)
[06:30] <bob2> esac: right, just asking because I somehow ended up getting the bug report
[06:30] <bob2> Hendric: install libglib1.20dev
[06:30] <nalioth> Hendric: you need glib-bleh-dev
[06:30] <nalioth> bob2 to the rescue
[06:31] <esac> bob2: do you do development on anjuta, or do you just reassign as appropriate ?
[06:31] <se1> hi
[06:31] <se1> i'm trying to install skype
[06:31] <se1> but get
[06:31] <se1>    skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:<IP_ADDRESS>) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed
[06:31] <se1> idea?
[06:31] <deFrysk> sel in breezy ?
[06:32] <se1> no 'dpkg -i /tmp/...deb'
[06:32] <Lifetaker> any recommendations on a media player that will handle MOV files?
[06:32] <BenderNZ> totem?
[06:32] <vbgunz> hey bob2, thanks but now what? I don't have it in my right click menu nor can I find it in the Nautilus menus... checking again...
[06:32] <Amaranth> Lifetaker: vlc?
[06:32] <deFrysk> sel is using breezy ?
[06:32] <nalioth> Lifetaker: any of them with libquicktim
[06:32] <bob2> esac: oh, I'm just the default person for (some) bug reports when the "real" authors haven't come forward; it'll have to wait for a MOTU to forward it upstream, I guess
[06:32] <nalioth> libquicktime
[06:32] <bob2> Lifetaker: mplayer
[06:32] <bob2> vbgunz: you may need to log out and in again
[06:32] <esac> MOTU ?
[06:32] <se1> hoary
[06:32] <Lifetaker> okay... I'll start looking at those.. thanks
[06:32] <vbgunz> ok will check... will let you know!
[06:33] <esac> ubotu tell esac about MOTU
[06:33] <deFrysk> libqt3c-mt is installed sel ?
[06:33] <se1> yes
[06:33] <da_bon_bon> ubotu tell da_bon_bon  about MOTU
[06:34] <dabaR> !+msg the bot
[06:34] <ubotu> from memory, msg the bot is please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. /msg ubotu keyword, or especially if you do not know whether some factoid exists.
[06:34] <da_bon_bon> ok. sorry :)
[06:34] <esac> yeah geesh da_bon_bon !
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[06:35] <vbgunz> thanks bob2... it partially worked... for example... I can only access the terminal if I right click a folder in the right pane *but* I do not get the option if I click on a folder in the left pane *tree*
[06:35] <vbgunz> is it possible to get that behaviour?
[06:36] <bob2> vbgunz: don't know, I don't use nautilus
[06:36] <Amaranth> the sidebar is special
[06:36] <vbgunz> what you use?
[06:36] <nalioth> Amaranth: where you been?
[06:36] <bob2> my shell almost exclusively
[06:36] <Amaranth> nalioth: college
[06:36] <Hendric> apt-cache search glib <-- says i have glib installed... but why did i get this error: glib-config not found ???
[06:36] <bob2> Hendric: because you didn't install libglib1.2-dev
[06:37] <nalioth> Hendric: you need the dev package of glib installed
[06:37] <cafuego_> !spam
[06:37] <ubotu> You can have Spam, spam, spam rat and spam or spam, spam, spam, spam, sausages and spam or rat, spam, spam, spam, eggs and spam or spam, spam spam, spam, spam and spam.
[06:37] <bob2> Hendric: also, apt-cache search says nothing at all about whether you have a package installed
[06:37] <vbgunz> man... thanks for that much but I would really like to see that command on the left menu... :}
[06:37] <bimberi> bloody vikings
[06:37] <dr_willis> "But I dont Like spam!"
[06:37] <dabaR> cafuego_: hehe, where is that from again?
[06:38] <cafuego_> dabaR: monty python
[06:38] <Hendric> ok.. what will i apt-get to install the dev package of glib???
[06:38] <Octane> new amarok version is out, should be in breezy soon -- YAY
[06:38] <cafuego_> Hendric: then you'have have libglib-dev installed.
[06:38] <nalioth> Hendric: bob2 has told you twice
[06:38] <esac> laptop-net uses arp to determine the mapping. what is arp, and how do i tell the arp address to use for it ?
[06:38] <dabaR> Octane: you really think it will be in breezy soon? you mean backports maybe?
[06:38] <Octane> i will pay 50 dollars to whomever can help me solve my OpenOffice problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=356488
[06:39] <bob2> esac: arp is how your computer finds out the MAC addresses of machines around it
[06:39] <Hendric> OMG its installing now.. yey!
[06:39] <Hendric> tnx a lot
[06:39] <Octane> dabaR: its an official release, no reason for why it shouldnt be in breezy since breezy's version right now is 1.3.1 and this is 1.3.2
[06:39] <cx22> hey guys! it won't work
[06:39] <Hendric> waaaaa done with libglib-dev but still got the error
[06:39] <crimsun> Octane: it would have to break upstream version freeze to be allowed in
[06:39] <cx22> if i extract the tar.gz files, would it automatically install?
[06:39] <Amaranth> Octane: except that main is frozen
[06:39] <bob2> esac: I guess laptop-net uses it to find out what machines are physically on the network with it, so it knows ehere it is
[06:40] <bob2> Hendric: libglib1.20dev
[06:40] <Hendric> oopss.. its another error.. sorry
[06:40] <esac> bob2: how do i tell what to put in it then ?
[06:40] <crimsun> Octane: we're evaluating if it can be allowed in
[06:40] <cx22> if i extract the tar.gz files, would it automatically install?
[06:40] <Hendric> its gtk now...
[06:40] <Octane> crimsun: ahh i see, lots of bugfixes
[06:40] <bob2> cx22: tar.gz of what?
[06:40] <minime-> cx22: no, it just extracts that tarball
[06:40] <vbgunz> octane why don't you officially pay Ubuntu support line for support? They need it and you need support :)
[06:40] <cx22> if i extract the tar.gz files, would it automatically install the files on it?
[06:40] <nalioth> cx22: no
[06:40] <cx22> java and adobe reader
[06:40] <dabaR> vbgunz: $50?
[06:40] <bob2> Hendric: libgtk1.2-dev
[06:40] <Octane> vbgunz: thats a good idea and i might have to resort to that if i cant get damn openoffice working... i seem to be the only one with this problem
[06:40] <Hendric> wat is the dev package of gtk?? so that i could apt-get it...
[06:40] <deFrysk> cx22, use evince
[06:41] <deFrysk> cx22, iso adobe reader
[06:41] <bob2> Hendric: as above
[06:41] <cx22> i've downloaded those files of adobereader and java on tar.gz files. how can i install it? what do i have to type on command?
[06:41] <Hendric> waw its installing now.. hope i won't get another error
[06:41] <vbgunz> dabar not sure what the support options are but if you're willing to pay they might be the best long term option... not sure of pricing but I think it might be worth it
[06:41] <cx22> deFrysk, where can i download it?
[06:41] <deFrysk> !evince
[06:41] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, deFrysk
[06:42] <deFrysk> oh geez
[06:42] <deFrysk> is it not in hoary ?
[06:42] <bimberi> !info evince
[06:42] <bob2> single-issue support is very cheak
[06:42] <ubotu> evince: (Document (postscript, pdf) viewer), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.9-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 189 kB, Installed size: 788 kB
[06:42] <Hendric> im done! you guys rocks!!!.. tnx so much
[06:42] <cx22> ubuntu 5.04
[06:42] <deFrysk> cx22, read what ubotu said
[06:43] <cx22> k. be back later
[06:43] <nalioth> !tell cx22 about synaptic
[06:43] <deFrysk> !tell cx22 about apt-get
[06:44] <deFrysk> !tell cx22 about repositories
[06:44] <deFrysk> (just in case
[06:44] <bob2> Octane: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends openoffice.org2-core ; sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2-core
[06:44] <se1> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2447
[06:44] <se1>  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2447
[06:44] <Amaranth> se1: Please don't repeat yourself.
[06:44] <Octane> bob2: i have already perged all openoffice related crap, apt-get cleaned everything
[06:45] <Octane> purged*
[06:45] <bob2> Octane: try it, then paste the output of 'dpkg -S /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/javaldx'
[06:45] <bob2> Octane: you're on amd64, yes?
[06:45] <Octane> bob2: OK.
[06:45] <bob2> se1: find a version of skype for your version of ubuntu
[06:46] <Octane> bob2: yes sir i am
[06:47] <bob2> god OO is a pig
[06:47] <deFrysk> sel, try the static tar.bz2
[06:47] <se1> bob2:  it's supposed to be for ubuntu.
[06:47] <dabaR> lol
[06:47] <se1> bob2/defrysk:  how can you see it's not for the right version?
[06:47] <se1> defrysk:  i will
[06:47] <bob2> se1: it's not for your version of ubuntu
[06:47] <bluekey> ubuntu doesnt detect my intel nic
[06:47] <bob2> se1: because it Depends on a version libqt3-mt that is higher than what you have
[06:48] <bob2> Octane: what does "file /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/soffice.bin" print out? also, "file /bin/ls"
[06:48] <se1> bob2:  then why can't i upgrade my qt3-mt lib?!
[06:48] <dabaR> doesnt it depend on a version lower than he has?
[06:48] <bob2> since I have no idea whaat file output for amd64 executables have
[06:49] <Octane> bob2: T minus 7 mins till i get oo2 installed
[06:49] <Octane> [00:49]  dan@dan:~/working$ file /bin/ls
[06:49] <Octane> /bin/ls: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[06:49] <bob2> se1: not unless you upgrade to breezy
[06:50] <bob2> dabaR: it Depends on 3:<IP_ADDRESS>, hoary has 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3.
[06:50] <bob2> dabaR: the .2 makes it a higher version
[06:50] <bob2> tho that version is ridiculous, anyway
[06:50] <bob2> 3 epichs
[06:50] <se1> bob2:  i believe you, but why / how would i find this out myself?
[06:51] <se1> bob2: sometimes you can apt-get upgrade a package
[06:51] <esac> has anybody tried kde 3.5 yet ?
[06:51] <Kaos`mm-Ezekiel> how easy is it to partition and install ubuntu as a second os?
[06:51] <bob2> Kaos`mm-Ezekiel: very
[06:51] <se1> bob2:  but sometimes somehow you have to upgrade to breeze?
[06:51] <bob2> Kaos`mm-Ezekiel: it even lets you resize existing partitions to make room
[06:51] <Kaos`mm-Ezekiel> is there somewhere that i could read how to do it?
[06:51] <dabaR> bob2: where does it let you do that?
[06:51] <vbgunz> Please help, in Breezy, I have several additions to the grub boot menu. Several more options exist to log into what appears to be different kernels... is this a bug or is it OK and possible to log into Ubuntu with different Kernels?
[06:51] <bob2> se1: I used packages.ubuntu.com to find out what version of tha package existed in breezy
[06:51] <bob2> dabaR: hm?
[06:51] <bob2> vbgunz: it's fine
[06:52] <dabaR> resize partitions.
[06:52] <bob2> vbgunz: you can remove the 2.6.10 ones if you want
[06:52] <bob2> dabaR: in the partitioner stage
[06:52] <cx22> hey guys. stil having problems here
[06:52] <bob2> dabaR: or so I hear, I've never installed ubuntu on a machine with windows on it
[06:52] <Kaos`mm-Ezekiel> is that in the installer?
[06:52] <dabaR> so, manually edit the partition table, and then what?
[06:52] <tritium> dabaR, if you choose the manual partitioning
[06:52] <bob2> Kaos`mm-Ezekiel: yes
[06:52] <Kaos`mm-Ezekiel> cool
[06:52] <vbgunz> ok so leave only the latest ones correct?
[06:52] <dabaR> I guess Ill just try.
[06:52] <cx22> in all that i've read, there was nothing there that would show me how to install a tar.gz file
[06:52] <bob2> vbgunz: 2.6.12, yeah
[06:53] <vbgunz> ok
[06:53] <bob2> cx22: right, because it's ike asking how to install a .zip file
[06:53] <bob2> cx22: it depends on what is inside it
[06:53] <dabaR> tritium: you tried this, or know for a fact?
[06:53] <cafuego_> What are you doing with a tar.gz, didn't you want Java?
[06:53] <cx22> now, how do i run whats on it? theres no .deb file. no .exe files either
[06:53] <tritium> dabaR, yes, I've tried it
[06:53] <tritium> (and know for a fact)
[06:54] <vbgunz> ok did it, thanks bob2
[06:54] <dabaR> ok
[06:54] <cx22> i've extracted the files into another folder. what do i do next?
[06:54] <deFrysk> cx22, what the name of the package ?
[06:54] <cafuego_> cx22: What are you installing?
[06:54] <Hendric> i found this on a forum... "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "I can't configure Slackware".
[06:54] <Hendric> lolx
[06:55] <locomorto> na
[06:55] <jadex> Hendric> lol
[06:55] <cx22> AdbeRdr701_linux_enu.tar.gz
[06:55] <locomorto> It means humanity to others
[06:55] <cx22> install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[06:55] <cafuego_> Hendric: The funny thing is, that was probably posted by a kid who wasn't even BORN when I ran slackware.
[06:55] <dabaR> Hendric: haha
[06:55] <Hendric> yeah i guess so cafuego
[06:55] <esac> ok my system keeps randomly hanging, just with normal use. are there any steps i can take to figure this out, get it debugged, whatever ?
[06:55] <locomorto> cx22: or you could you use the firefox popup thingy?
[06:55] <cx22> and the one is jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[06:55] <cafuego_> cx22: Both of thsoe have prebuilt packages.
[06:55] <cx22> how?
[06:55] <locomorto> cx22: much easier to install
[06:56] <dabaR> cx22: dont use packages that are not for your particular distribution
[06:56] <dooglus> over 100 bugs have been added to the ubuntu bugzilla in the last 24 hours!
[06:56] <locomorto> cx22: just go to a site that needs flash
[06:56] <cx22> but what is for my particular distribution?
[06:56] <cafuego_> cx22: You downloaded the wrong jre file. You want the one that does NOT have rpm in the filename.
[06:56] <Octane> bob2: okay re-insatlling now
[06:56] <tritium> cx22, please don't advise others to use non-ubuntu packages unless you're willing to provide support when their systems break
[06:56] <locomorto> cx22: and use the magic toolbar
[06:57] <bob2> dooglus: not all bugs block release, fortunately
[06:57] <cafuego_> cx22: There is a jre1.5....bin file. Fetch that. NOT the .rpm.bin
[06:57] <cx22> be back later...
[06:57] <cx22> ok cafuego, i'll go download another file of that type
[06:57] <Hendric> why would i spend more time on slackware if i can get and do what i need with ubuntu...
[06:57] <esac> bob2: sorry to be directing this to you, but you seem like the senior guru here. my system has been freezing. i'll alt tab to another program and then it just hangs. i cant ctrl-alt-f1 or anything. can i turn on logging, tracing, help to get this debugged and solved or what ?
[06:57] <cafuego_> cx22: Whn that's downloaded, install 'java-package' and run it. the wiki is really quite clear.
[06:57] <Octane> [00:57]  dan@dan:~/working/kmplayer-0.9.0c$ file /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/soffice.bin
[06:57] <Octane> /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/soffice.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[06:57] <cafuego_> Hendric: Coz it's not leet.
[06:57] <deFrysk> cx22, I think you need to read all of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation before you get totally lost
[06:58] <sugoruyo> hi, can someone tell me if i can the kubuntu dvd as a repo at ubuntu?
[06:58] <Entranced> Any ideas why after the dist-upgrade my system won't get to gdm ? I get an error "blue screen" and X doesn't start ...
[06:58] <cafuego_> sugoruyo: missing a verb
[06:58] <bob2> haha
[06:59] <bob2> go openoffice
[06:59] <Entranced> Breezy system...
[06:59] <sugoruyo> looooooooool
[06:59] <Octane> bob2: here are all the outputs for everything you asked me to do: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2448
[06:59] <Plazgoth> Hello
[06:59] <sugoruyo> sry, i want to add it
[06:59] <a1exey> Hello
[06:59] <Hendric> i need wordstar to be leet... whew
[06:59] <bob2> Entranced: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and just say yes to everything
[06:59] <sugoruyo> there's my verb
[06:59] <Entranced> thnx bob
[06:59] <cafuego_> sugoruyo: Yeah, apt-cdrom ought to be able to, I think.
[06:59] <JDahl> what devilry is module-assistant? just when I thought I knew make-kpkg Debian invents a new way to build kernel modules...
[06:59] <sugoruyo> how?
[06:59] <Octane> bob2: i see... the openoffice is compiled for intel?
[06:59] <Entranced> bob2, I thought it was the udev thing
[06:59] <Plazgoth> Is there a special channel for super-noobs to ask questions?
[07:00] <tritium> heh, JDahl
[07:00] <jrattner1> How long does it take for Free Cd's to usually ship?
[07:00] <bob2> Entranced: oh, could be
[07:00] <cafuego_> sugoruyo: 'sudo apt-cdrom add'
[07:00] <bob2> Plazgoth: here
[07:00] <bob2> Octane: yeah, I guess OO2 is still not portable to amd64
[07:00] <deFrysk> Plazgoth, you just got to the right place!
[07:00] <bob2> which is suck
[07:00] <Entranced> bob2,  hmmm.. same thing with Sid ...grr
[07:00] <tritium> Entranced, when was the last time you updated?
[07:00] <Plazgoth> OK can the preview release be installed on a fresh system?
[07:00] <Entranced> 4 hours ago...
[07:00] <deFrysk> Plazgoth, yes
[07:00] <cafuego_> bob2: I started #ubuntu-leet
[07:00] <tritium> Yes, Plazgoth
[07:00] <bob2> Octane: where does ia32-libs put it's libraries?
[07:01] <Octane> bob2 then what the hell is ubuntu doing downloading intel packages to an amd64 machine
[07:01] <BlueEagle> jrattner1: That's described on the pages where you order. 4-6 weeks, but now you will have to expect longer delivery times due to the new release. Atleast that's how I understand it.
[07:01] <bob2> cafuego_: lolz!
[07:01] <Plazgoth> Hmmm...I ran into an issue when it got to installing linux-386
[07:01] <Octane> bob2: look, openoffice.org (1) is also a problem
[07:01] <cafuego_> bob2: The amd64 apckages work ok though (chroot etc)
[07:01] <Octane> [01:00]  dan@dan:~/working/kmplayer-0.9.0c$ file /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin
[07:01] <Octane> /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[07:01] <Plazgoth> It told me to look atbootproto.log
[07:01] <bob2> Octane: OO1 on amd64 was just the i386 package with some shims to make it run under amd64
[07:01] <Octane> cafuego_: my chroot is 32bit
[07:01] <jrattner1> BlueEagle so is it worth it to wait for the CD or should i just download the new release when it comes out?
[07:01] <bob2> Octane: what does "uname -a" print?
[07:01] <sugoruyo> nice thanks cafuego
[07:01] <Entranced> tritium, 4 hours ago...dist-upgrade..the kernel seems to be causing problems..?
[07:01] <Octane> bob2: but i cant get openoffice.org (1) working either
[07:01] <jrattner1> BlueEagle, are there any differences between the two?
[07:01] <Plazgoth> But there was nothing about any error in there
[07:01] <cafuego_> Octane: I run OOo2 without an explicit chroot, it runs fine.
[07:01] <cafuego_> Octane: Mind you, breezy.
[07:01] <Octane> bob2: Linux dan.theidiots.org 2.6.12-8-amd64-generic #1 Thu Sep 15 22:59:26 BST 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:02] <tritium> Entranced, not here...which version do you have?
[07:02] <BlueEagle> jrattner1: No more hoary CDs are shipped afaik.
[07:02] <bob2> Octane: do you get the same error when running OO2 now?
[07:02] <Octane> cafuego_: breezy here to
[07:02] <Entranced> Kernel 2.6.12-9
[07:02] <Octane> [01:01]  dan@dan:~$ ooffice2
[07:02] <Entranced> Breezy
[07:02] <Octane> /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/javaldx: error while loading shared libraries: libz.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:02] <Octane> /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/soffice.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libz.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:02] <jrattner1> BlueEagle, I mean for the new release.. Is there any difference between the CD and the download ISO?
[07:02] <BlueEagle> jrattner1: Wether it's worth waiting 4-6 weeks? How am I supposed to answer that? I don't know how much time you've got.
[07:02] <BlueEagle> jrattner1: The iso provided at this time is preview software.
[07:02] <bob2> Octane: hmmm
[07:02] <tritium> Entranced, 2.6.12-9.14 ?
[07:03] <cafuego_> Octane: Mine runs fine (last update 2 hours ago) apart from "javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment!"
[07:03] <Kaos`mm-Ezekiel> if i set a system restore, try to install ubuntu, partition and mess up, can i restore fully?
[07:03] <Entranced> whatever just came out
[07:03] <bob2> Octane: can you put the output of "dpkg -L ia32-libs" somewhere?
[07:03] <BlueEagle> jrattner1: As far as I know there are no difference between the distributed ISO and the CD.
[07:03] <Octane> cafuego_: im upt o date as well
[07:03] <dr_willis> a windows XP system restore you mean Kaos`mm-Ezekiel ?
[07:03] <Kaos`mm-Ezekiel> yeah
[07:03] <bob2> Kaos`mm-Ezekiel: if you write to the partition table, you've written to the partition table
[07:03] <jrattner1> BlueEagle, alright that all I wanted to know
[07:03] <Kaos`mm-Ezekiel> sorry didnt think
[07:03] <Octane> bob2: http://dan.theidiots.org/etc/ia32.txt
[07:03] <BlueEagle> jrattner1: (apart from the obvious fact that the one is on a physical CD already and the other needs to be burned)
[07:03] <cafuego_> bob2: /lib32 and /usr/lib32
[07:03] <esac> does anybody know how i can help debug my system randomly hanging ?
[07:04] <dr_willis> No.. :P you fail to understand that Linux is its own Operating sstem . it will want its own hard drive/partition.  XP in theory wont see it at all.
[07:04] <Kaos`mm-Ezekiel> the partition isnt the problem
[07:04] <sn0n> anyone here 'approve' orders for shipit ?
[07:04] <Kaos`mm-Ezekiel> its the messing up of the install somehow
[07:04] <cafuego_> But it doesn't contain a libz
[07:04] <bob2> Octane: oh, scandal
[07:04] <bob2> sn0n: they mostly happen automatically
[07:04] <bob2> cafuego_: that seems odd
[07:04] <dr_willis> If the install is done right - XP wont even notice.
[07:04] <Octane> but /usr/lib32 and /usr/lib are in my ld.so.conf
[07:04] <bob2> cafuego_: do you know if it used to?
[07:04] <cafuego_> 'dpkg -L ia32-libs | grep libz' -> nuffin
[07:04] <bob2> libz seems like a pretty basic lib to keep around
[07:04] <sn0n> there isnt people that approve them ? cuz mine says 'Waiting for approval'  (even thou i know breezy cds arent shipping yet)
[07:04] <Kaos`mm-Ezekiel> care to elaborate fn'dr_willis
[07:04] <bob2> sn0n: how many did you order?
[07:04] <Octane> cafuego_: libz is from zlibg package
[07:04] <BlueEagle> esac: How "random" is the hanging?
[07:05] <sn0n> 45 PC (same as last time ) and then 5 - 64bit and 5 ppc
[07:05] <bob2> Octane: OO wants the i386 version of libz
[07:05] <dr_willis> Kaos`mm-Ezekiel,  what more to be said.. when the install is done right.. XP in no way  will be affected.
[07:05] <cafuego_> Octane: The thing is, /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/soffice.bin *should* be a bash shells cript, so it ought to complain about libs *at* *all*
[07:05] <cafuego_> Octane: Did you install the OOO2 i386 or the amd64 apckages?
[07:05] <Kaos`mm-Ezekiel> brilliant, thankyou. just how is right?
[07:05] <esac> BlueEagle: its happened 5 times today. its always doing different things. sometimes an ifconfig in terminal, sometimes alt-tab to another program, sometimes typing up an email
[07:05] <sn0n> i give them away at school.. and people love them..
[07:05] <cafuego_> s/to/not/
[07:05] <Octane> cafuego_: i installed whats in the repos, which is apparently intel
[07:05] <sn0n> cept the one lab aide.. lol..
[07:05] <Plazgoth> I just tried doing a fresh install of Breezy and it failed at doing the linux-386 part. I have an Intel PC. I looked at /target/var/log/bootproto.log but there ws nothing usefull in there. Anyone have any ideas?
[07:06] <sn0n> but the teachers love em , and classmates too
[07:06] <BlueEagle> esac: hoary or breezy?
[07:06] <dr_willis> Kaos`mm-Ezekiel,  depends on your system :P normally the installer for ubuntu handles it all. I perfer to use a seperate hard drive just for linux however.
[07:06] <bob2> Plazgoth: are you sure the cd is ok?
[07:06] <cafuego_> Octane: 'COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l openoffice.org2'
[07:06] <Kaos`mm-Ezekiel> thanks
[07:06] <esac> BlueEagle: breezy
[07:06] <Plazgoth> I just downloaded it and burned it. Anyway to check?
[07:06] <cafuego_> Octane: What version is it?
[07:06] <BlueEagle> esac: 386 or 686 kernel?
[07:06] <jesusfish> anyone here know how to build a kernel with gcc-4.0?
[07:06] <Madeye> guys, I have problem with to many application, getting similar error like "invalid ELF header" for .so file?
[07:06] <Madeye> any idea?
[07:06] <bob2> Plazgoth: if you boot with "expert" mode, you should be able to select a "verify cd" option or so
[07:07] <jesusfish> or how to fix version magic
[07:07] <cafuego_> jesusfish: Any reason you think that would be a good idea?
[07:07] <bob2> Madeye: is your disk corrupt?
[07:07] <Madeye> bob2,  no
[07:07] <jrattner1> when is breezy's release date?
[07:07] <Plazgoth> How do you boot with expert mode?
[07:07] <cafuego_> jesusfish; Compile your module with gcc 3.4
[07:07] <Octane> cafuego_: nothing listed i dont think... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2449
[07:07] <esac> BlueEagle: 686-smp
[07:07] <bob2> Madeye: your linker disagrees
[07:07] <deFrysk> jrattner1, check the topic
[07:07] <jesusfish> cafuego: is that how I get rid of version magic errors?
[07:07] <bob2> Plazgoth: type expert and hit enter at the first prompt
[07:07] <cafuego_> jesusfish: yes.
[07:07] <BlueEagle> esac: intel or amd dual processor system?
[07:07] <Octane> jrattner1: /topic
[07:07] <Plazgoth> Ok will try that
[07:08] <cafuego_> Octane: So the package sustem thinks oo2 isn't installed at all!
[07:08] <esac> BlueEagle: Mobile Pentium 4 3.06 GHz HT (not Pentium M)
[07:08] <linner> she's baaa-ack
[07:08] <jrattner1> I dont see it in the topic
[07:08] <Madeye> bob2, how to make sure if it's the disk or the system ?
[07:08] <cafuego_> Octane: So... what package does your '/usr/lib/openoffice2/program/soffice.bin' belong to?
[07:08] <BlueEagle> esac: dual mobile processors? o.O
[07:08] <Octane> cafuego_: openoffice.org2-core or is it -common i believe
[07:08] <bob2> Madeye: try running "debsums" and see if it complains
[07:09] <jrattner1> BreezyUpgrade notes dont say the release date
[07:09] <esac> BlueEagle: well a single pentium 4, HT, but yeah :)
[07:09] <BlueEagle> jrattner1: in IRC type /topic
[07:09] <deFrysk> jrattner1, topic sais tho
[07:09] <Entranced> tritium, I think I have <IP_ADDRESS> kernel
[07:09] <Octane> cafuego_: openoffice.org2 is just a metapackage
[07:09] <cafuego_> Octane: Hmm. 'sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2'
[07:09] <tritium> Entranced, I don't think so
[07:09] <BlueEagle> esac: Why are you running a smp kernel on a single processor system?
[07:09] <cafuego_> Octane: let it pull in whatever it tinks it needs
[07:09] <cafuego_> BlueEagle: HT
[07:09] <Entranced> tritium, just looked in Synaptic
[07:09] <Octane> cafuego_: youre right some pkgs are missing, but im telling you this is gonna just happen again
[07:09] <jrattner1> Where in the topid
[07:09] <BlueEagle> esac: It might be local apic that bites you, but it would be the first time I heard an intel processor with borked apic.
[07:10] <jrattner1> I dont see it at all
[07:10] <Octane> cafuego_: i just removed some ooo2 packages to help bob2 debug
[07:10] <deFrysk> jrattner1, geez
[07:10] <cafuego_> Octane: I swear, it runs fine here. If you have the same pkgs, it should run fine there too.
[07:10] <bob2> Octane: you should only have removed one, which was reinstalled immediately
[07:10] <BlueEagle> ahh, ofcourse hyper threading processors.
[07:10] <tritium> Entranced, you probably saw linux-image-386, or something
[07:10] <jrattner1> I'm not even kidding
[07:10] <jrattner1> i dont see any date in the entire topic
[07:10] <deFrysk> jrattner1, sorry they took the rel.date out , its oct 13
[07:10] <bob2> BlueEagle: I hear of it happening all the time, especially with via-rhine nics
[07:10] <Hendric> anyone here successfully used YM (for windows) using Wine????
[07:10] <jrattner1> oh sick I wonder if it will have kde 3.5 :)
[07:10] <Octane> cafuego_: here give me 2 mins
[07:11] <Entranced> tritium, yeah
[07:11] <esac> what do i install to compile my own kernel ?
[07:11] <tritium> Entranced, linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 is at 2.6.12-9.14
[07:11] <BlueEagle> bob2: Well, then I'm way off track anyways. Haven't owned an intel processor since... ehh... in a ver long time.
[07:11] <bob2> esac: build-essential and kernel-package and fakeroot
[07:11] <Entranced> tritium, yup
[07:11] <deFrysk> esac, linux-source, build essential ?
[07:11] <tritium> Entranced, hence, not .15
[07:11] <bob2> esac: you don't often need to compile it, tho; the ubuntu one includes basically everything you could want
[07:11] <Entranced> tritium, that is what I have at this point
[07:11] <tritium> ok
[07:11] <Entranced> tritium, it is all weird
[07:11] <tritium> have you rebooted?
[07:11] <Entranced> yup
[07:12] <Entranced> and got the nice blue screen
[07:12] <esac> bob2: for some reason i remember having these random hangs with gentoo, and i compiled something with apm/apic out and it worked, so i just wanted to take a look
[07:12] <Entranced> I had the same thing happen in Sid
[07:12] <tritium> Entranced, can you boot into rescue mode (single user)?
[07:12] <Entranced> I can try
[07:12] <Entranced> the thing it it just doesn't start X
[07:13] <bob2> esac: you can disable apic, lapic and/or acpi without a recompile
[07:13] <jesusfish> cafuego: any idea how to get OSS to build with 3.4?
[07:13] <Octane> cafuego_ back to square 1 :)
[07:13] <tritium> Can you switch to a v.c., Entranced ?
[07:13] <deFrysk> Entranced, did you keep the gdm settings of hoary or used the mainatainer settings of breezy ?
[07:13] <kwolf> Just curious.  are you guys talking about problems installing linux-686
[07:13] <bob2> esac: try noapic, nolapic and acpi=off at the kernel boot line
[07:13] <Octane> cafuego_: openoffice.org2-core 1.9.129-0.1ubuntu1-0ubuntu1
[07:13] <cafuego_> jesusfish: OSS?
[07:13] <esac> bob2: would that just drain my battery really dang fast, or is that something else ?
[07:13] <BlueEagle> esac: Well, that was my thought aswell, but as I said, I've never heard of an intel processor having trouble with apic.
[07:13] <tritium> kwolf, post install
[07:13] <jesusfish> cafuego: ya, sound drivers
[07:13] <Entranced> deFrysk, I used Breezy from the start ie. Colony 3
[07:13] <cafuego_> Octane: Yep, that's the version I have, too.
[07:14] <BlueEagle> esac: or did you mean acpi?
[07:14] <jesusfish> osslinux: version magic '2.6.12 preempt K8 gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.12 preempt K8 gcc
[07:14] <jesusfish> -3.4'
[07:14] <deFrysk> Entranced, and upgraded tu current ?
[07:14] <bob2> esac: disabling acpi could mean your battery runs down quicker, but I doubt the other two options would have a noticable effect
[07:14] <Entranced> yup
[07:14] <cafuego_> jesusfish: The ones in the kernel or the payware ones?
[07:14] <esac> dont remember
[07:14] <esac> bob2: k
[07:14] <kwolf> ic.  I'm having touble installing linux-686 on a system that was dist-upgraded to breezy
[07:14] <jesusfish> cafuego: payware
[07:14] <bob2> jesusfish: what are you trying to compile?
[07:14] <deFrysk> and have a blue sreen ?
[07:14] <BlueEagle> esac: Because broken acpi is more bios dependant. You might want to check for upgrades from your motherboard manufacturer.
[07:14] <jesusfish> cafuego: it was working
[07:14] <deFrysk> sccreen?
[07:14] <Octane> bob2: any more ideas on what i can do or no?
[07:14] <Entranced> I had breezy working for about a week or two with no problems
[07:14] <cafuego_> jesusfish: Probably export CC=gcc-3.4 and then build 'em
[07:14] <jesusfish> bob2: oss modules
[07:14] <bob2> Octane: that is very very odd
[07:14] <tritium> Entranced, I've not seen a blue screen in linux, only windows
[07:14] <Entranced> hehe
[07:14] <jesusfish> cafuego: I did export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[07:15] <Entranced> it was the ncurses
[07:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> if my dsl modem functions as a router, does that mean i can't connect a regular wi-fi router to it?
[07:15] <deFrysk> Entranced, if you have a screen of any colour x works
[07:15] <bob2> Octane: but if installing openoffice2.org doesn't get you a working openoffice2, that's a bug
[07:15] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: no
[07:15] <deFrysk> Entranced, oic
[07:15] <sophie_> BROKEN_LADDER: u can cascade routers
[07:15] <Octane> bob2: openoffice.org doesnt work for the same exact reason -- it says i dont have libz.so.1
[07:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> sophie_ the idiots at sbc told me wrong then.  glad i didn't use their stupid cd.
[07:15] <bob2> Octane: I don't know where the i386 libz is supposed to come from, unfortunately
[07:15] <kwolf> does anyone have access to the following package: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-686
[07:15] <Octane> [01:15]  dan@dan:~$ whereis libz.so.1
[07:15] <Octane> libz.so: /usr/lib/libz.so.1 /usr/lib/libz.so
[07:15] <Entranced> deFrysk, I had this happen on Debian Sid...and it had something to do with udev there
[07:16] <sophie_> BROKEN_LADDER: its actually a nice way to set up a "safe" lan
[07:16] <bob2> Octane: right, that's the normal amd64 one
[07:16] <marc`> random play in MPlayer is slightly, not random
[07:16] <deFrysk> Entranced, try startudev and killall gdm and then restart gdm
[07:16] <Octane> kwolf: the restricted-modules for .9 havent been updated yet
[07:16] <tritium> kwolf, try updating again.  They came a little after the kernel image
[07:16] <sush> Is here on This server a german ubuntu chat to?
[07:16] <tritium> #ubuntu-de
[07:16] <sush> thx
[07:16] <Entranced> deFrysk, This is the first upgrade that fux0red my X
[07:17] <deFrysk> Entranced, if its udev its easy
[07:17] <Entranced> it's a pain in the a$$
[07:17] <bob2> Octane: I'm doing a but more digging
[07:17] <tritium> kwolf, actually, I see what you mean...they're still unavailable for me too
[07:17] <deFrysk> Entranced,  ctrl-alt-f2
[07:17] <Octane> tritium: i cant upgrade to -9 amd64 restriced modules either ,just yet
[07:17] <se1> thanks for your help bob2 / defrysk
[07:17] <Octane> bob2: thanks so much i really appreciate it. i have gotten no help in #ooo or on ubuntuforums or on bugzilla
[07:17] <se1> static skype works
[07:17] <Plazgoth> What are my options if the install CD fails the integrity check?
[07:17] <tritium> Entranced, if you updated 4 hours ago, you should have the fixed udev
[07:17] <bob2> Octane: which bug # is it?
[07:17] <se1> upgrading to breeze in the meantime
[07:17] <bob2> Plazgoth: reburn it
[07:18] <tritium> That was fixed 2 days ago or so
[07:18] <bob2> Plazgoth: try it at a slower speed
[07:18] <Octane> bob2: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14474
[07:18] <Entranced> hmmm
[07:18] <Octane> bob2: i even emailed the dev who responded
[07:18] <tritium> Octane, probably on their way
[07:18] <damnhil> how can I insert a horizontal line in Kword?
[07:18] <kwolf> Thanks for checking.  this happened the other night when a broken udev made it's wa into breezy.  oh well
[07:18] <Entranced> tritium, It workes with the older kernel no problems
[07:18] <Plazgoth> Thanks bob2 I will try reburning
[07:19] <tritium> Entranced, I think you rebooted into the new kernel, and don't have matching linux-restricted-modules
[07:19] <Entranced> tritium, after the kernel upgrade it seems to be broken
[07:19] <Plazgoth> Just out of curiousity what is the general consensus install Breazy or Hoary?
[07:19] <Entranced> Could be!Q
[07:19] <Plazgoth> Fairly new to linux, and brand new to ubuntu
[07:19] <BlueEagle> plazgoth: Do you want something stable and useful or experimental and potentially frustrating?
[07:20] <deFrysk> Plazgoth, I would go for breezy at this point
[07:20] <Plazgoth> stable and useful
[07:20] <Octane> Plazgoth: did you run a crc check on your cd's?
[07:20] <Entranced> tritium, The following packages have been kept back:
[07:20] <Entranced>   linux-restricted-modules-686
[07:20] <Entranced> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[07:20] <BlueEagle> plazgoth: Then go for the stable release (hoary)
[07:20] <bob2> Octane: is that you following up to the bug report?
[07:20] <Octane> Entranced: im having the same problem on amd64, just wait a while, -9 JUST came out
[07:20] <bob2> Entranced: yeah, they need to be rebuilt every time the kernel is updated
[07:20] <deFrysk> Entranced, do a dist-upgrade
[07:20] <bob2> Entranced: and it hasn';t happened yet
[07:20] <Octane> bob2: no thats not me, I'm Dan Berger, i emailed the dev though
[07:20] <bob2> Octane: ah
[07:20] <Entranced> bob2,  ahhh I see
[07:21] <tritium> Entranced, yes, that's your problem.  You need -9
[07:21] <bob2> Octane: you followed all those steps in the report and it didn't work?
[07:21] <Octane> Entranced & deFrysk dist-upgrade wont work either
[07:21] <Octane> bob2: yes.
[07:21] <Entranced> I know that
[07:21] <Octane> bob2: our problems are slightly different though
[07:21] <Entranced> I did dist-upgrade
[07:21] <Entranced> and it doesn;t work
[07:21] <Plazgoth> Octane I ran the integrity check in expert mode and one of the files in the 'x' directory failed MD5
[07:21] <deFrysk> I just updated my breezy , so better not reboot now I understand ?
[07:21] <Entranced> hehe
[07:21] <tritium> Entranced, it's not available yet
[07:21] <Entranced> guess not
[07:21] <deFrysk> dang :s
[07:21] <Entranced> Kewl
[07:21] <din> gn
[07:21] <Octane> Plazgoth: ya i hate when that shit happens, thats why i only do network installs
[07:22] <Entranced> Now I know what is up!
[07:22] <Octane> ColonelKernel: they don't call you Colonel Kernel for nothing
[07:22] <bob2> Octane: hrm
[07:22] <tritium> deFrysk, yeah, wait until you get l-r-m to match your linux-image
[07:22] <Plazgoth> This is a fresh install, can I install through the network?
[07:22] <Octane> LOL
[07:23] <dr_willis> heh
[07:23] <Octane> Plazgoth: if you have two computers on the same network or access to an FTP/HTTP server yes :)
[07:23] <dr_willis> i saw the same message
[07:23] <deFrysk> tritium, I will
[07:23] <Entranced> tritium,  what is in l-r-m that messes things up ?
[07:23] <cycom> I recompiled my kernel with oldconfig and now my wireless doesn't work.
[07:23] <tritium> Entranced, binary-only drivers like nvidia, ati, etc.  Which video chipset do you have?
[07:23] <Entranced> Nvidia :)
[07:23] <sophie_> tritium: do you work in the nuclear business
[07:23] <Plazgoth> Octane can you point me to some details on how to do it
[07:23] <Octane> brb in ONE second, i need to restart KDE.
[07:23] <tritium> sophie_, no comment
[07:23] <chavo> Hey, I upgraded to breezy, but I don't have the bootsplash. How do I configure it?
[07:24] <Entranced> hehe
[07:24] <dr_willis> I disabled the bootsplash. It was rather ugly
[07:24] <sophie_> tritium: I use Nvidia
[07:24] <Entranced> dr_willis, true that !
[07:24] <tritium> sophie_, okay, are you running breezy?
[07:24] <dr_willis> and I am being NICE :P
[07:24] <chavo> yeah, I'll probably turn it off to, just wandering why it's not on.
[07:24] <sophie_> tritium: I love D20
[07:25] <sophie_> tritium: Nope
[07:25] <tritium> sophie_, heavy water?
[07:25] <tritium> sophie_, then you have no worries
[07:25] <sophie_> tritium: Yep but concenring breezy everything is buit with ggc4 propably the driver issue
[07:25] <bob2> haha
[07:25] <sophie_> tritium: D2O yep
[07:26] <linner> question for ya'll...
[07:26] <tritium> sophie_, it's that the kernel was rebuilt, and now the restricted-modules need to be rebuilt as well
[07:26] <linner> i've just installed ubuntu 5.10... and am having x server problems.. so i'm trying to apt-get the updates
[07:26] <linner> but it doesn't see my internet connection
[07:26] <linner> tried a ping www.google.com and nothing came back
[07:26] <Entranced> ...Well I'll do another dist-upgrade in few hours... hopefully that'll fix it
[07:27] <sophie_> linner: dns problem
[07:27] <tritium> sophie_, why do you love D20, if I may ask?
[07:27] <Entranced> linner, try pinging <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:27] <linner> sophie_, well, i have dual boot on ... and windows sees it just fine
[07:27] <linner> Entranced, ok
[07:27] <sophie_> tritium: it taste exactly the same has water but is heavier
[07:27] <bob2> is tritum in water stable (module tritium's own half-life)?
[07:27] <linner> Entranced, network is unreachable
[07:28] <sophie_> bob2: tritium is a beta (radio active) emeiter
[07:28] <bob2> sophie_: right
[07:28] <bob2> but different isotops sometimes have different chemical properties
[07:28] <Knelix> Downloading the Preview Install CD image....
[07:28] <bob2> e.g. deuterium reacts more slowly
[07:29] <Knelix> Is it easy to install Nvidia drivers with 5.10 Preview?
[07:29] <tritium> Knelix, yes
[07:29] <Knelix> tritium: Good. :-)
[07:29] <sophie_> bob2: actually D20 is stable it has to be activated by a neutron to become tritiated
[07:30] <Plazgoth> How can I found out my MAC address from a shell during install?
[07:30] <bob2> sophie_: yeah, I know
[07:30] <sophie_> Plazgoth: ifconfig
[07:30] <bob2> Octane: do you have libz32 installed?
[07:30] <opteek> Plazgoth, ifconfig
[07:30] <Plazgoth> returns nothinf
[07:30] <bob2> Octane: er, lib32z1
[07:30] <ksmurf> hello all
[07:30] <Plazgoth> I tried to do ifup eth0
[07:30] <opteek> Plazgoth, man ifconfig
[07:30] <sophie_> Plazgoth: than probably no nic configures
[07:31] <SlicerDicer-> anybody able to help me with why all games work except armyops? my othergames are 64bit games but when I try to run 32bit games opengl libs are not found
[07:31] <Octane> bob2: no i do not
[07:31] <opteek> SlicerDicer, what 64 bit games????
[07:31] <Octane> wait yes i do
[07:31] <tritium> hi ksmurf
[07:31] <bob2> Octane: install it
[07:31] <Octane> nono, i do
[07:31] <SlicerDicer-> opteek, all 64bit games work my 32bit ones dont
[07:31] <SlicerDicer-> opteek, whoops I thought I said that haha
[07:31] <tritium> Knelix, you should have gotten a URL from ubotu with info on nvidia
[07:31] <JustSteve> hey if i am downloading Breezy should i get the Preview rel, or download the current daily build?
[07:31] <Octane> bob32: im doing aptitude reinstall
[07:31] <opteek> SlicerDicer, name me some 64 bit games, i mean
[07:32] <ksmurf> is there a way to change the size of uspash on startup.... I can't see the last 3 lines when it's starting.  It's like it's 600x480
[07:32] <tritium> might as well get a daily, JustSteve
[07:32] <SlicerDicer-> opteek, eh? what does it matter my 64bit games work my 32bit dont
[07:32] <Octane> bob2: i think i know the problem!
[07:32] <JustSteve> that's what i was thinking, the preview download stalled on me at 486megs
[07:32] <opteek> SlicerDicer, ive never heard of a 64 bit game is all
[07:32] <tritium> ksmurf, like with vga=792, or something?  unfortunately not
[07:32] <SlicerDicer-> opteek, umm UT2004?
[07:32] <Knelix> tritium: hehe. yes. Took me a little to figure it was the bot. Haha :-P
[07:32] <tritium> :)
[07:32] <SlicerDicer-> opteek, umm quake3?
[07:32] <brodmann> hey, what is the wiki site for ubuntu?
[07:32] <bimberi> wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:33] <brodmann> ah, easy enough, thanks
[07:33] <Octane> BOB!
[07:33] <Octane> LOOK!
[07:33] <Antioch_> How do you restart X without rebooting?
[07:33] <SlicerDicer-> opteek, umm kolf? LOL!!!
[07:33] <SlicerDicer-> opteek, sorry could not help myself there
[07:33] <bimberi> Antioch: log out, then <ctrl><alt><backspace>
[07:33] <bob2> Octane: hm?
[07:33] <Antioch_> bimberi, thanks!
[07:33] <Octane> bob2: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2451
[07:33] <brodmann> this is where I can get help setting up the video drivers and all that jazz?
[07:33] <tritium> Antioch, if you log out, then you can sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:33] <opteek> SlicerDicer, thats awesome, im gonna download ut2004 64 now
[07:34] <JustSteve> brodmann check the forums, there's good info for starting out there
[07:34] <lucaas> can someone give me the default kernel line of breezy's menu.lst, messed up mine?
[07:34] <bimberi> tritium: ooh, yes, will recommend that in future
[07:34] <Octane> bob2: /usr/lib/libz.so.1.2.3 VS. /usr/lib32/libz.so.1.2.3
[07:34] <tritium> bimberi, :)
[07:34] <SlicerDicer-> opteek, check icculus.org for the updated executable otherwise you wont be able to download maps from servers
[07:34] <bob2> brodmann: yes, but it's usually so trivial you'll not need help
[07:34] <brodmann> thanks guys
[07:34] <SlicerDicer-> does anybody have any idea why my 64bit games would work and my 32bit games cannot find 32bit opengl libs?
[07:35] <ksmurf> well the uspalsh was a dive .... how about how to bring a wifi card up automatic on startup?
[07:35] <Octane> BOB2
[07:35] <bob2> Octane: try LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib32 /usr/lib/openoffice2/soffice.bin
[07:35] <ksmurf> !usplash
[07:35] <ubotu> well, usplash is in Breezy: sudo apt-get install usplash, for more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss
[07:35] <Octane> I GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:35] <Octane> I GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:35] <bob2> Octane: or whatever the path was
[07:35] <Octane> well, sort of
[07:35] <bob2> Octane: haha, rock
[07:35] <Octane> i did a test
[07:36] <tritium> nice job, Octane
[07:36] <Octane> this is definitely a bug though
[07:36] <Octane> thanks tritium :)
[07:36] <JustSteve> hey brodmann heres a how-to for nvidia and there's an ati driver how-to as well http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368&highlight=nvidia+driver
[07:36] <Octane> i erased the symlink /usr/lib/libz.so.1 and recreated it to point at /usr/lib32/libz.so.1.2.3
[07:36] <Octane> ooo was looking for libz.so.1 in /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib32
[07:37] <SlicerDicer-> does anybody have any idea why my 64bit games would work and my 32bit games cannot find 32bit opengl libs?
[07:37] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: do you have 32-bit opengl libs installed?
[07:37] <tritium> SlicerDicer, you're repeating, dude
[07:37] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: if you're talking about nvidia stuff, you probaly need a 32-bit chroot
[07:37] <Octane> any way to permament tell openoffice to look inside /usr/lib32 and not /usr/lib
[07:38] <bob2> Octane: the command I gave above does that
[07:38] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, I would assume yes beings that later than 6699 or whatever drivers have been included with nvidia drivers
[07:38] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, it was working previous to updating
[07:38] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, chroot is not needed as far as I can see as it was working before
[07:38] <Octane> bob2: thanks so much for all your help
[07:38] <Octane> cafuego_: you too
[07:38] <bob2> Octane: np
[07:38] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: hm, ok
[07:39] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, previous to update it was slow now it does not work at all
[07:39] <esac> dang dist-upgrade taking a long time tonight
[07:40] <Plazgoth> Octane can you point me to some details on how to do a fresh install install from network
[07:40] <BlueEagle> plazgoth: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25269.html
[07:40] <BlueEagle> plazgoth: first hit on google for ubuntu network install
[07:41] <Octane> Plazgoth: see the wiki over at ubuntulinux.org
[07:41] <Knelix> Anybody have an IBM G74 monitor?
[07:41] <Madeye> bob2, debsums generated 11mb txt, lemme grep the failed for you
[07:41] <Knelix> I'm trying to find tech specs for it-- see what the max. res/refresh is.
[07:41] <Plazgoth> Thanks
[07:42] <JDahl> for close to 2 years I have cursed openafs for linux, but the latest version in Breezy just works! building the kernel module, config scripts etc. all automated... hooray!
[07:42] <tritium> JDahl, :)  Did you get module-assistant sorted out?
[07:43] <jkrogh> JDahl: Whats the benefits of AFS?
[07:43] <JDahl> yes, really easy - they packager for openafs makes really good docs
[07:43] <tritium> good deal
[07:43] <esac> what is openafs ?
[07:43] <JDahl> jkrogh, conceptually it's like NFS, just modern, distributed, and safe
[07:44] <jkrogh> like NFSv4?
[07:44] <JDahl> jkrogh, I only know the old NFS
[07:45] <jkrogh> Sometime .. I got to the impression that AFS was not posix-compliant?
[07:45] <JDahl> jkrogh, for several years non-compliance to everything was a pretty good AFS description
[07:45] <jkrogh> Would AFS be a good choise to get filesystem access to my home-server over the internet from $random-place without VPN?
[07:46] <JDahl> jkrogh, that's one of the things AFS is good at
[07:46] <cafuego_> jkrogh: In theory shfs (via fuse) would work too. Damn slow, though.
[07:46] <jkrogh> cafuego_: And a "hack"..
[07:47] <NilXu> first question..  what is the quickest or best way to get extra speed out of an old box running ubuntu?
[07:47] <cafuego_> jkrogh: Yeah. I'd rather X in via an ssh tunnel ;-)
[07:47] <jkrogh> ssh is not designed for that.. if anything else fails. then maybee
[07:47] <cafuego_> NilXu: rail gun
[07:47] <NilXu> it is a pro 200/ 98meg ram
[07:47] <NilXu> good
[07:48] <jkrogh> bob2: if the filesystem protocol takes care of encryption and authentication, what's the problem then?
[07:48] <BlueEagle> nilxu: What are you using it for?
[07:48] <NilXu> how about without embedding it on the face of the moon?
[07:48] <cafuego_> NilXu: it'll be nice and fast right up until the moment of impact ;-)
[07:48] <jkrogh> VPN is conceptually inflexible..  all-or-nothing approach.
[07:48] <NilXu> going to use it for a mail and web server if i can get it to respond well enough
[07:49] <bob2> jkrogh: I'm just antsy about that sort of thing
[07:49] <mkyb14> anyone know how to restart the vnc server ?????  it's not /etc/init.d/vnc restart
[07:49] <mkyb14> ?
[07:49] <cafuego_> jkrogh: A 'little bit' approach would be shitty for a remote homedir too ;-)
[07:49] <TTilus> NilXu: how about fluxbox as desktop, dillo for web and mutt/slrn for mail/news
[07:49] <cafuego_> NilXu: it should be fine, just do a server install and don't run X on it.
[07:49] <jkrogh> I'd just like to have access to /net/$homeserver/home on my laptop anywhere.
[07:49] <BlueEagle> nilxu: Might want to hunt for extra memory chips then. Really depends a lot on how much traffic you are going to handle, but it should be fast enough in theory.
[07:50] <jkrogh> (autofs scheme)
[07:50] <JDahl> jkrogh, I easily get worked up discussing AFS... It's one of those things that are hard to live without once you're used to them
[07:50] <Madeye> bob2,  would you please kindly check http://jadmadi.net/tmp/ it contain two files, failed.txt for failed after debsums and some other prelinked modified
[07:50] <cafuego_> jkrogh: I use the gnome vfs sftp handers, seem fine.
[07:50] <BlueEagle> nilxu: ofcourse if you're on a T1 line and intend to max it out on web and mail traffic then you'll probably not get far with that machine. :)
[07:50] <TTilus> NilXu: before adding extra memory check that your mb supports and, the most importantly, CAN CACHE MORE
[07:50] <NilXu> TTilus: what is flux box?
[07:50] <bob2> yay prelink
[07:50] <TTilus> NilXu: wm
[07:50] <mkyb14> ?
[07:50] <mkyb14> anyone know how to restart the vnc server ?????  it's not /etc/init.d/vnc restart
[07:51] <cafuego_> mkyb14: vncserver --help (it runs as user, you start it by hand)
[07:51] <NilXu> BlueEagle: not on a t1 by any means
[07:51] <BlueEagle> !info fluxbox
[07:51] <mkyb14> that didn't work
[07:51] <ubotu> fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.11-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 626 kB, Installed size: 1988 kB
[07:52] <TTilus> NilXu: also check that you have dma enabled (and you can tweak with other htparm stuff too)
[07:52] <NilXu> BlueEagle: just starting up a business and would like to run my own web server
[07:52] <TTilus> NilXu: test with readfile or bonnie++
[07:52] <cafuego_> NilXu: if it IONLY runs as server, it will be fine for a low volume web site (maybe a few hits per second) and quite a lot of mail.
[07:53] <cafuego_> NilXu: I used to run a multi-domain vhost system off a P2/300 with 256Mb without any problems.
[07:53] <NilXu> bonnie is a benchmarking prog?
[07:53] <BlueEagle> nilxu: Should be able to handle that.
[07:53] <TTilus> NilXu: y
[07:53] <NilXu> cafuego_: nice
[07:53] <DansFloyd> dont know if anyone can answer this.... how do i use Wine? ive installed it, now how do i use it?
[07:53] <cafuego_> NilXu: If you want to doa  ulti-domain system too, let me dig up a url for you...
[07:54] <dePOLL> DansFloyd: wine winprogram.exe?
[07:54] <TTilus> NilXu: if you use decent caching system in case of running dynamic website your hw will do more than fine
[07:54] <cafuego_> NilXu: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/
[07:54] <DansFloyd> k
[07:54] <NilXu> TTilus: where would i download fluxbox deb?
[07:54] <Knelix> DansFloyd: You pour it in a glass, put it to your lips, tip and drink...
[07:54] <DansFloyd> lol
[07:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> i need help trying to get my router working with a dsl modem that already acts as a router.
[07:54] <DansFloyd> nice
[07:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> what settings should i be using?
[07:55] <cafuego_> NilXu: If the box is just a server, don't bother with fluxbox. It won't need a GUI.
[07:55] <TTilus> NilXu: forget about flux if you are not setting up a desktop system
[07:55] <ak37> does anybody know how I can find w32codecs debs, I can't find it in synaptics anymore
[07:55] <cafuego_> NilXu: just keep in mind a high end content management system might be a bit too much for the machine.
[07:55] <NilXu> cafuego_: ulti-domain?
[07:55] <Knelix> I've never used WINE... only read of it. Does it run at least certain apps well at all at this stage?
[07:55] <TTilus> NilXu: addition... do NOT run X on your webserver
[07:55] <boots> Knelix: heh. sure.
[07:55] <TTilus> NilXu: it only eats up your memory
[07:56] <cafuego_> NilXu: multi-domain (as in: multiple email domains on the same machine, without having unix accounts for all of them)
[07:56] <C0_horny> malang
[07:56] <cafuego_> Knelix: it runs solitaire just great!
[07:56] <NilXu> TTilus: well untill i can get it configured and incase i want to change anything later... cause this is retarted right now
[07:56] <TTilus> NilXu: stay out of Zope-based stuff and you'll do fine
[07:57] <Knelix> cafuego_:Haha!
[07:57] <cafuego_> avoid 'moodle' as well.
[07:57] <i-ubuntu>   /nick linner
[07:57] <i-ubuntu> oops
[07:57] <TTilus> cafuego_: isnt it zope app?
[07:57] <cafuego_> TTilus: Nope, php.
[07:57] <DaSkreech> How do I purge the apt cache?
[07:58] <TTilus> NilXu: believe me, you really don't need X for configuring and maintaining server system
[07:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> if my dsl provider uses pppoe, but my dsl modem/router already does pppoe, i don't need to set up pppoe in my wi-fi router?
[07:58] <cafuego_> DaSkreech: apt-get clean
[07:58] <NilXu> TTilus: i know, also i am getting a startup error abut a general console font?  wehre do i find that to fix it?
[07:59] <TTilus> NilXu: uhh, dunno about that
[07:59] <cafuego_> Great. Now tsclient is busted.
[07:59] <NilXu> TTilus: k, well thanks loads for everything else
[07:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone know anything about networking?
[08:00] <antix> launchpad not working?
[08:00] <boots> NilXu: font problem?
[08:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> do i need to use pppoe in my router AND my dsl modem?
[08:00] <tritium> just your modem, BROKEN_LADDER
[08:01] <fc_> hi
[08:01] <NilXu> boots: "setting up general console font failed"
[08:01] <tritium> hi fc_
[08:01] <NilXu> boots: "font_kernel_font : invalid argument"
[08:01] <boots> NilXu: oooh, not what I thought, sry
[08:01] <NilXu> k no prob
[08:01] <DaSkreech> How do I purge the apt cache?
[08:02] <tritium> DaSkreech, cafuego told you
[08:02] <fc_> hi
[08:02] <DaSkreech> Can I just delete everything in the folder?
[08:02] <DaSkreech> Oh sorry I didn't see
[08:02] <kwolf> n
[08:02] <DaSkreech> Thanks
[08:02] <NilXu> ok well later
[08:02] <tritium> DaSkreech, in /var/cache/apt/archives?  Yes.
[08:03] <jago> hi
[08:03] <Madeye> guys, I have problem with to many application, getting similar error like "invalid ELF header" for .so file?
[08:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium can you think of any reason that my router would show that it can connect to a site, but i'm getting no connection on my computer?  the dsl modem is a router, btw.
[08:03] <DaSkreech> tritium: Thanks
[08:04] <GrannyTux> crap
[08:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> i think i'll give it another try and play with some things.
[08:04] <GrannyTux> whats going on with transcode
[08:04] <GrannyTux> i can install it
[08:04] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, too hard to say without more info
[08:04] <GrannyTux> after upgrade
[08:05] <GrannyTux> nut i knew i should not of formated my pc
[08:05] <tritium> if you can install it, what's the problem/
[08:05] <GrannyTux> can't sry
[08:05] <tritium> you upgraded to what?  breezy?
[08:05] <GrannyTux> keep saying its refer by other package transcode-doc
[08:06] <GrannyTux> no i tryed 64 bit then went back to hoary
[08:06] <pablo_> que lindo que lindo festilindo!
[08:06] <CaiN_SA> how do i reinstall grub to the hdd ?
[08:07] <e1vis> ubuntu
[08:08] <e1vis> :-)
[08:08] <ksmurf> !wifi
[08:08] <ubotu> hmm... wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[08:08] <GrannyTux> msg CaiN_SA use your ubuntu cd
[08:09] <SlicerDicer-> anybody find out that some 32bit games just crapped out in 64bit ubuntu?
[08:09] <Plazgoth> Ok I reburned at half the speed and the integrity seems ok now
[08:09] <Plazgoth> The installation got through the CD portion just fine
[08:09] <SlicerDicer-> I just updated ubuntu and all my 32bit games crapped out :/
[08:09] <Plazgoth> But when I rebooted I saw an error "setting up general console font - Failed"
[08:09] <Plazgoth> Is that normal?
[08:09] <bimberi> CaiN_SA: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:10] <e1vis> SlicerDicer-: not cool dude
[08:11] <Knelix> Installing Ubunto onto the hard drive now...
[08:12] <CaiN_SA> thx bimberi
[08:13] <bluefoxicy> Somebody help me with openoffice
[08:14] <Madpilot> bluefoxicy: that's a rather open-ended request... got a more specific question?
[08:14] <Knelix> tritium: What was that address again (it timed out on me last time), and how do I get ubotu to get me that sort of info?
[08:14] <tritium> Knelix, what's the info you wanted again?
[08:14] <deFrysk> !tell Knelix about ubotu
[08:15] <Knelix> tritium: On downloading/installing NVidia drivers
[08:15] <tritium> !tell Knelix about nvidia
[08:15] <Knelix> Cool. Thank you guys.
[08:16] <linner> hello again
[08:17] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/crappyscreen.png Make that picture in the middle http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/word_xp_quickguide_1024w.jpg do that
[08:17] <deFrysk> hmz , public away is not done here Kaos`mm-Ezekiel
[08:17] <esac> i did a dist-upgrade which installed the -9 kernel, and X stopped working, and my network stopped working
[08:17] <bluefoxicy> . . . horny
[08:17] <bluefoxicy> XD
[08:17] <GrannyTux> so whats up with this
[08:17] <deFrysk> :D
[08:17] <GrannyTux> rustina@d207-81-90-45:~$ sudo apt-get install transcode
[08:17] <GrannyTux> Reading package lists... Done
[08:17] <GrannyTux> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:17] <GrannyTux> Package transcode is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:17] <GrannyTux> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:17] <GrannyTux> is only available from another source
[08:17] <GrannyTux> However the following packages replace it:
[08:17] <tritium> GrannyTux, don't paste here
[08:17] <GrannyTux>   transcode-doc
[08:17] <GrannyTux> E: Package transcode has no installation candidate
[08:17] <GrannyTux> rustina@d207-81-90-45:~$
[08:17] <esac> GrannyTux: stop
[08:17] <deFrysk> GrannyTux, make sure not to flood please
[08:18] <deFrysk> GrannyTux, there is a ban policy about flooding so be carefull
[08:18] <GrannyTux> opps should have taken out
[08:18] <GrannyTux> sry
[08:18] <tritium> !info transcode
[08:19] <tritium> !info transcode breezy
[08:19] <ubotu> transcode: (Utility to encode raw video/audio streams), section multiverse/x11, is extra. Version: 2:1.0.0-0.4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14797 kB, Installed size: 42756 kB
[08:19] <bluefoxicy> maddler:  closed ended enogh
[08:19] <tritium> GrannyTux, transcode is in breezy, but it's in other repos in hoary
[08:20] <GrannyTux> event not found
[08:21] <desplesda> hey everyone, i just upgraded my breezy install and my nvidia driver won't load anymore, is there any news when linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-386 is going to be available to install?
[08:21] <Passion> I have a problem that lost brightness on my laptop after resuming.
[08:21] <GrannyTux> so should I add breezy to my sources list
[08:21] <Knelix> I see Ubuntu installs from the CD, then reboots and continues to install... Why is this? Why not just install everything at once?
[08:21] <tritium> desplesda, soon
[08:21] <tritium> GrannyTux, not unless you want to upgrade to breezy
[08:21] <AlexMBas> HrdwrBoB, The RAID 1 install went perfectly fine, thank you very much
[08:21] <Passion> Dose anybody have the same problem?
[08:21] <desplesda> tritium: thanks
[08:22] <Knelix> desplesda: Oh please don't tell me NVidia drivers are not working in 5.10...
[08:22] <bob2> desplesda: should be today
[08:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> can i pay someone ten bucks for a bit of help setting up my router?  i could give it to you via paypal or something.
[08:22] <GrannyTux> mmm maybe i shoud
[08:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> i've got to get this working and i'm exhausted and need sleep.
[08:22] <desplesda> BROKEN_LADDER:  what kind of router?
[08:22] <bob2> Knelix: it's called the development version for a reason
[08:22] <tritium> Knelix, they are, it's just a matter of waiting for an update
[08:22] <aftertaf> the ubuntu packages for nvidia were working the other day too...
[08:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> dlink di 524
[08:22] <Knelix> Ugh... I know, I know...
[08:23] <desplesda> BROKEN_LADDER:  i have a di 624, maybe i can help
[08:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> this same thing happened last time i bought this model of router.  i used the setup system, and it didn't work.  then i couldn't get back to it.
[08:23] <Knelix> It's just that without a driver graphics are gonna suck most likely...
[08:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> desplesda okay, i have a dsl modem/router and the router is behind that.
[08:23] <tritium> aftertaf, don't worry
[08:23] <desplesda> Knelix:  not really, i'm coping just fine with vesa
[08:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> desplesda i went through the wizard but to no avail.  now i can't even plug into the router and get <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> i even reset it.
[08:24] <Knelix> desplesda: Okay, cool.
[08:24] <bob2> Knelix: no, they'll be fine, just sans 3d acceleration
[08:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> every time i try to work on my connection, i have to cut of my computer's connection, so i can't get help with this.
[08:24] <Knelix> ok... Does that include the GNOME screensavers?
[08:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> i need someone i can call.
[08:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> to walk me through it.
[08:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> 10 bucks for like 15 minutes of time.
[08:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> that's 40$/per hour.
[08:25] <desplesda> heh
[08:25] <JDahl> BROKEN_LADDER, what router do you have?
[08:25] <desplesda> i can do that if you like
[08:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> once again, di 524
[08:25] <Plazgoth> OK install worked. Sweet.
[08:25] <desplesda> BROKEN_LADDER, may I /msg you?
[08:25] <JDahl> I wasnt paying attention, but I have a similar model and also several problems
[08:25] <bluefoxicy> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/023809.shtml?swath  Is that a giant penis?
[08:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> desplesda absolutely
[08:26] <Knelix> Should I try to install the NVidia drivers anyway, or just stick with the VESA driver?
[08:26] <Plazgoth> It's currently at 640x480 how do I change the resolution? When I go to change it I have no other options. I am guessing no driver for my video
[08:27] <JDahl> BROKEN_LADDER, what I did was to change to static IP, that enabled to contact the router and upgrade firmware, but the router still crashes occasionally. All that helps for me (tip from the DI FAQ) is to turn of router and cable modem for at least 2 minutes
[08:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> JDahl so it's a router problem?!
[08:28] <JDahl> BROKEN_LADDER, yes, most definitely
[08:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> JDahl i just bought this thing.  i had problems with the same model last time i bought it but thought it was a fluke.
[08:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh jesus.
[08:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can they sell something like that.
[08:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> my gf's 20$ motorola router works fine.
[08:29] <JDahl> I think the FAQ said something like "it sometimes crashes during heavy traffic".. I think they mean IP traffic, and for me it seems depend also on how hot my apartment is (not shit!)...
[08:30] <Knelix> tritium: Good night. :-)
[08:30] <JDahl> night tritium
[08:31] <Passion> ACPI is not stable yet, right?
[08:31] <Knelix> Hmm. Now Ubuntu is downloading packages to install...
[08:32] <Knelix> I must say, this seems like a great Installer.
[08:32] <mehdi> hi
[08:32] <mehdi> have u me
[08:32] <mehdi> ?
[08:32] <mehdi> plz
[08:32] <nalioth> Knelix: apt-get is the best
[08:33] <Knelix> mehdi: Hello. Ask any question you'd like.
[08:33] <nxv_> hi
[08:33] <Plazgoth> How do I add more resolutions? It seems it only has 640x480?
[08:33] <Madpilot> !tell Plazgoth about fixres
[08:33] <Knelix> Uh-Oh... Problems!!!!
[08:34] <JDahl> Isn't it possible to have an optional installation mode that takes care of all the restricted stuff? Isn't it just in the US that's a problem?
[08:34] <Knelix> Ugh
[08:34] <Knelix> Something about not being able to read some block... "Remounting filesystem read-only"...
... And it seemed to be going so well.
[08:35] <esac> make xconfig requires QT. what do I install to get that, or is there something better than make xconfig nowadays ?
[08:35] <Knelix> It happened in "Preparing openoffice.org2-common"
[08:35] <Knelix> I think it's frozen now.
[08:36] <Knelix> Rebooting...
[08:36] <nxv_> i upgraded horay -> breezy during install i had to remove my postgresql and reinstalled it with apt-get. it seems still to run as i can connect to it with psql db_name. but it is not listening on a port anymore. pgadmin3 or my php scripts throw an error asking if there is postgresql running
[08:37] <Mirussa> exp
[08:37] <pitti> nxv_: odd, it should listen; but why did you remove it before?
[08:38] <pitti> nxv_: there should be a clean upgrade path
[08:38] <pitti> nxv_: do you use TCP or unix socket in pgadmin3/php?
[08:39] <Knelix> Damn, maybe I should install the stable version instead...
[08:39] <nalioth> Knelix: bad blocks is bad blocks
[08:40] <grigora> hey folks, does anyone know how to log into a Novell network and gain access to network printers from a Linux workstation? I would really appreciate any advice as I don't feel at all inclined to use Windoze XP. Thanks
[08:40] <NsOmNiAc> <3 Ubuntu
[08:40] <Knelix> nalioth: So what should I do?
[08:40] <d2dchat> is there a GIMP module that can open up and edit pdfs?
[08:40] <geneo93> i installed breezy from cd and it worked ok
[08:40] <d2dchat> or plugin?
[08:40] <bob2> d2dchat: doubt it
[08:40] <NsOmNiAc> d2dchat : nope
[08:40] <cycom> ARG! GPSD!!!!!!! Why must you ruin all my fun?! I run gpsd and my network card dies! GRRRR
[08:40] <bob2> d2dchat: you can convert .pdfs to .ps, tho
[08:40] <d2dchat> is there any linux program that does that?
[08:40] <d2dchat> how?
[08:41] <grigora> d2dchat: pdf2ps?
[08:41] <bob2> pstopdf
[08:41] <nalioth> bob2: how to map bad blocks for Knelix?
[08:41] <esac> make xconfig requires QT. what do I install to get that, or is there something better than make xconfig nowadays ?
[08:41] <volvoguy> gimp can open pdf files.
[08:42] <d2dchat> volvoguy, i just tried, it aint workin;)
[08:42] <bob2> esac: the kernel command-line paramters I suggested did not work?
[08:42] <aftertaf> esac:  gnome has gconfig i think.....
[08:42] <bob2> esac: libqt3-mt-dev and build-essential
[08:42] <bob2> nalioth: modern disks silently remap bad blocks without telling you
[08:42] <volvoguy> d2dchat, well it's in the menu. lemme grab a pdf and try it. :)
[08:42] <bob2> nalioth: if it's started telling you, it means the disk is *really* broken
[08:42] <esac> bob2: nope, i lose my wireless card and X freezes for a couple minutes on start
[08:43] <nalioth> bob2: Knelix had the bad block problem, so i guess he needs more help
[08:43] <_Caleb_> hmmm
[08:43] <nalioth> Knelix: install smartmontools
[08:43] <Knelix> What the system asking me?: Display all 372 possibilities?--  Yes, no? I'm not really sure what it wants to do. And, yeah-- what's funny is that it's my eMac's internal drive (which I recently upgraded).
[08:44] <d2dchat> NsOmNiAc, maybe my version of gimp is old
[08:44] <bob2> _Caleb_: it has a default configuration, yes
[08:44] <bob2> Knelix: q
[08:45] <NsOmNiAc> yeahhh blew me away
[08:45] <NsOmNiAc> it didn't used to
[08:45] <_pir> Helo, I installed "gnome-netstatus" from the synaptic, but I cant find it in the "add applet"...how do I use it?..   I have many x-executable files in the /usr/lib   how do I lunch them?...
[08:45] <volvoguy> d2dchat, it worked for me. i'm using breezy though. gimp 2.2.8 i believe.
[08:45] <_Caleb_> ahh so id assume apt-get is a lil more refined than yum
[08:45] <Knelix> Can I simply mark that block as bad... and move on...?
[08:45] <d2dchat> ah i have 2.2.2
[08:45] <_Caleb_> whats the package name to install xine?
[08:45] <d2dchat> how do i upgrade?
[08:45] <Madeye> bob2,  would you please kindly check http://jadmadi.net/tmp/ it contain two files, failed.txt for failed after debsums and some other prelinked modified
[08:46] <NsOmNiAc> I got 2.2.2
[08:46] <volvoguy> d2dchat, you probably need to upgrade to breezy to get that gimp, and i don't know if i'd recommend that yet.
[08:46] <bob2> Madeye: indeed
[08:46] <bob2> Madeye: undo whatever prelink did, and try again
[08:46] <d2dchat> volvoguy, gotcha
[08:47] <bob2> I'm really not going to sift through 30KB of crap because you ran prelink
[08:47] <bimberi> volvoguy: does this work for multiple page pdfs?
[08:47] <d2dchat> NsOmNiAc, well i tried to open a pdf with it and it said failed, required plugin or something
[08:47] <NsOmNiAc> I'm running Hoary
[08:47] <NsOmNiAc> possible I have the plugin
[08:47] <volvoguy> d2dchat, if you file isn't anything private, i'd be happy to convert it for you.
[08:47] <volvoguy> bimberi, don't know. lemme try. :)
[08:47] <NsOmNiAc> I do alot of graphics design
[08:47] <Madeye> bob2, i'm not sure what prelink is and i don't know how to undo it
[08:47] <_pir> Any body knows how do I launch the "gnome-netstat"..?
[08:47] <nalioth> volvoguy: teach a man to fish, and all that
[08:48] <mfuentes> :( I not have access to change my Hackergotchi in the Launchpad :\
[08:48] <_pir> gnome-netstatus...
[08:48] <bob2> Madeye: why did you run it then?
[08:48] <bob2> mfuentes: known bug
[08:48] <volvoguy> nalioth, regarding upgrading to breezy for a newer gimp, that's like... um.... teach a man to fish for killer whales.
[08:48] <Madeye> bob2,  I didn't, it seems one of my apps did
[08:48] <d2dchat> no, i guess ill live without:(
[08:49] <d2dchat> thanks though
[08:49] <NsOmNiAc> who was it that wanted that ... for pdf ... let me see what plugin I installed
[08:49] <volvoguy> d2dchat, you could check the hoary backports project.
[08:49] <bob2> Madeye: if you say so
[08:49] <er4z0r> does anyone know apt-spy and if it is also possible to use it on ubuntu?
[08:49] <d2dchat> should I let my upgrades download BTW?
[08:49] <nalioth> volvoguy: d2dchat needs a pdf converted. teach a man to fish, and all that
[08:49] <d2dchat> it says I've got a lot, i justw anna make sure they won't break my installation
[08:49] <nalioth> volvoguy: n/m
[08:50] <d2dchat> nalioth, yea, i give up on the problem for now;)
[08:50] <bob2> Madeye: read the prelink man page
[08:50] <d2dchat> does anyone have any suggestions?
[08:50] <d2dchat> for my upgrades
[08:50] <NsOmNiAc> one sec
[08:50] <Madeye> bob2, hmm it sounds prelink is a package, if I remove it my problem will get solved?
[08:51] <bob2> Madeye: no
[08:51] <volvoguy> nalioth, np. :)
[08:51] <cycom> is there anywhere I can get the old gpsd package for debian/ubuntu?
[08:52] <volvoguy> d2dchat, i missed that part. are you just doing security upgrades and such in Hoary, or are you upgrading to Breezy?
[08:52] <NsOmNiAc> couldn't find anything out of the ordinary
[08:52] <d2dchat> i dont think im upgrading to Breezy..
[08:52] <bimberi> volvoguy: nvm, the dialog ask which page(s) you want :)
[08:52] <d2dchat> its just like apache2 and stuff
[08:52] <d2dchat> but a lot of stuff
[08:52] <d2dchat> like KDE
[08:52] <d2dchat> and some other stuff
[08:52] <d2dchat> even though im on Gnome
[08:53] <volvoguy> bimberi, yeah, i was just getting around to it. :) i'm going to use that a lot though!
[08:53] <nalioth> wtf
[08:53] <bob2> Madeye: removing it will not undo what it did
[08:53] <_Caleb_> use fluxbox youll be happier
[08:53] <d2dchat> haha i used that way back
[08:53] <d2dchat> i would like to be able to use all 3
[08:53] <d2dchat> KDE, Gnome and Fluxbox
[08:53] <volvoguy> d2dchat, if you just selected packages in synaptic to install, and some to upgrade, and it didn't complain, you should be good to go. :)
[08:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> desplesda yo.
[08:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> desplesda it seems like my router isn't doing dhcp.
[08:54] <Madeye> bob2, what you're not noticing is i'm desktop user, not programmer, or admin. honestly i don't know whats going on, and prelink man page make no sense
[08:54] <volvoguy> d2dchat, you can do that. i have gnome/kde/e17/xfce on my demo machine.
[08:54] <bob2> Madeye: ok then
[08:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> desplesda because when i type ifup eth0 when directly connected, it's instant. but with the router it just keeps trying and never gets a DHCP response.
[08:54] <d2dchat> volvoguy, you'll have to show me how to set that up;)
[08:55] <_pir> Any body knows how do I launch the "gnome-netstatus"..?
[08:55] <volvoguy> d2dchat, if you do it in synaptic, it should be automagic. :)
[08:55] <volvoguy> well... except e17.
[08:55] <bob2> _pir: if it's an applet, you need to restart the panel to see it listed
[08:55] <Madeye> bob2, isnt there an easy way to get this problem solved? please?
[08:55] <d2dchat> i dont know about e17 and xfce
[08:55] <Plazgoth> Hey I use a KVM switch. When I switch back to UBUNTU the mose freaks out, is there anyway to re-init the mouse
[08:55] <d2dchat> do they look cool?
[08:55] <bob2> Madeye: please don't be annoying
[08:56] <d2dchat> Madeye, lol, apparently not;)
[08:56] <cycom> hey, how do I compile a package from source with apt?