[06:33] <rcarr> But why guys! Microsoft sets an industry standard for security in encouraging administrator privelaged user accounts
[06:33] <zorba64> did you sudo -s max0
[06:33] <max0> what does that
[06:33] <rcarr> it enables things like websites to assist you in  software installation
[06:33] <ubahmapk> rcarr: I rest my case
[06:33] <rcarr> and file integrity management!
[06:33] <intelikey> max why are you running the command as root ?     wine should not need root priv.
[06:33] <rcarr> (that was also sarcasm)
[06:33] <ubahmapk> rcarr: if MS suggests it, then it must be wrong
[06:33] <max0> habbit?
[06:33] <zorba64> is all good...max0 has his head screwed on...sorry old son...just checking...you know how it is
[06:34] <cellofellow> rcarr: I wish that M$ would wake up and smell the roses and come up with a sudo clone.
[06:34] <rcarr> They have cellofellow
[06:34] <rcarr> in Vista
[06:34] <intelikey> max0 try it as the normal user
[06:34] <max0> ok, just a sec
[06:34] <cellofellow> rcarr: really?
[06:34] <ubahmapk> cellofellow: I used the 'runas' command for some time, but it was quite a pain
[06:34] <rcarr> They always had one, but it's more encouraged in xvista
[06:34] <rcarr> with a more gksu/kdesu setup
[06:34] <cellofellow> ok
[06:35] <rcarr> So now someone has to take advantage of a buffer overflow in the virgin networking stack to exploit your system, just a bit more work :p
[06:35] <max0> intelikey: it worked, thank you
[06:35] <ubahmapk> any ideas on where else I might try my query concerning apt?
[06:35] <ubahmapk> max0: good deal :-)
[06:35] <intelikey> np
[06:35] <max0> zorba64: how am i being bad?
[06:35] <rcarr> ubahmapk: What was your query in r elation to apt?
[06:35] <zorba64> ubahmapk: held back packages?...any not fully installed?
[06:35] <cellofellow> Anyone know how to remove "network folders" in the remote:/ kioslave?
[06:36] <ubahmapk> for the life of me, I see 44 packages that are 'upgradable', but are 'kept back' no matter what method I try and upgrade them.  Where do I go to see why they're being held back?
[06:36] <ubahmapk> one of the packages is amarok, and TMK it's fully installed
[06:36] <ubahmapk> or was
[06:36] <ubahmapk> ?
[06:36] <intelikey> ubahmapk i doubt that.    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:36] <ubahmapk> just did that to get to eft
[06:36] <ubahmapk> but I'll check again
[06:36] <zorba64> max0: already answered and apologised for that one
[06:36] <cellofellow> Anyone know how to remove "network folders" in the remote:/ kioslave?
[06:37] <ubahmapk> apt-get -s dist-upgrade shows the same 44 to be held back
[06:37] <intelikey> ubahmapk oh eft.   no that wont be the issue.    #ubuntu+1
[06:37] <zorba64> ubahmapk: if stuck maybe sudo apt-get -f install
[06:37] <rcarr> Ubahmapk: trying "apt-get install heldbackackage" doesn't upgrade them?
[06:37] <ubahmapk> intelikey: what's the +1 thing?
[06:37] <ubahmapk> rcarr: no
[06:38] <intelikey> you are running the pre-release.  that's the devel channel
[06:38] <zorba64> ubahmapk: dapper +1 = edgy
[06:38] <ubahmapk> zorba64: no luck on the -f flag either
[06:38] <ubahmapk> k.  I'll try the +1
[06:38] <cellofellow> Anyone know how to remove "network folders" in the remote:/ kioslave?
[06:39] <cellofellow> please? dragging them to trash doesn't work.
[06:39] <rcarr> ubahmapk: It's probably a repository problem, with broken repositories
[06:39] <zorba64> ubahmapk: then sudo apt-get update && try again....if not then just wait, the fix will come thru eventually
[06:39] <rcarr> ubahmapk: Or it means that new dependencies have been added since the last version
[06:39] <cellofellow> never mind, shift+del did it
[06:39] <intelikey> wb Jucato
[06:39] <rcarr> ubahmapk: But in that case installing them should grab the new dependencies, so it sounds like a broken dependncy thing
[06:40] <ubahmapk> rcarr: that makes sense.  I've seen this before but didn't take the time to try and figure it out
[06:40] <Jucato> thanks intelikey!
[06:40] <rcarr> ubahmapk: Try "apt-cache show packagename" on some of the packages and look at the dependencies
[06:40] <intelikey> or aptitude
[06:40] <rcarr> ubahmapk: and dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall > somefile
[06:41] <rcarr> ubahmapk: Shoould give you a llist of packages you have installed, you might be able to resolve the dependency problem yourself
[06:41] <ubahmapk> ok, I'm looking at the apt-cache output, but what does the second command do?
[06:41] <ubahmapk> ah
[06:41] <intelikey> i don't like aptitude but it does work if you want to fiddle
[06:41] <cellofellow> I wish just as a whim that I could open konsole as a tab in konqueror.
[06:41] <zorba64> ubahmapk: any "not fully installed or removed messages"
[06:41] <Jucato> cellofellow: F*
[06:41] <Jucato> F8
[06:41] <intelikey> cellofellow you can
[06:42] <cellofellow> intelikey: my biggest problem with it is that sometimes I open it and it wants to uninstall half my system.
[06:42] <rcarr> cellofellow: You can use apt-mark to unmark packages for auto removal
[06:42] <intelikey> yeah.
[06:42] <cellofellow> Jucato: i gotta try that,
[06:42] <ubahmapk> apt-cache show amarok shows the status as install ok installed
[06:42] <ubahmapk> ah so!
[06:42] <rcarr> Someone yesterday had a problem with amarok being held back, didn't they?
[06:42] <ubahmapk> there seem to be *two* versions of amarok installed!!
[06:42] <cellofellow> rcarr: I know, but it does it spontaneosly and by packages what weren't even set as auto in the fist place.
[06:43] <rcarr> cellofellow: Odd, I am not a big fan of aptitude anyway, so
[06:43] <zorba64> ubahmapk: unload the older one
[06:43] <rcarr> cellofellow: I make no efforts to defend it
[06:43] <ubahmapk> yeah, so how do I specify which version to unload? :-D
[06:43] <intelikey> ah so ?   what did he just call me ?     oh    ah   so.... never mind.
[06:44] <cellofellow> Jucato: it did open an embedded terminal emulator, but not really what I had hoped for. Like open a new tab and have it be konsole.
[06:44] <rcarr> ubahmapk: in apt-cache show amarok you should see something like " 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu10"
[06:44] <Jucato> cellofellow: oh
[06:44] <ubahmapk> rcarr: yes
[06:44] <swamy> how to get latest xine library
[06:44] <ubahmapk> rcarr: I have that one
[06:44] <ubahmapk> rcarr: and 2:1.4.0a-0ubuntu1
[06:44] <cellofellow> Jucato: it was just a sub-window below the main konqueror stuff.
[06:45] <Jucato> cellofellow: yeah
[06:45] <intelikey> cellofellow i think it's adjustable.
[06:45] <cellofellow> Jucato: I guess it doesn't do what I wanted it to,
[06:45] <cellofellow> intelikey: most likely
[06:45] <rcarr> ubahmapk: you can use apt-get remove amarok=version
[06:45] <intelikey> cellofellow i think it can.
[06:45] <Jucato> lol @ most likely intelikey
[06:45] <rcarr> ubahmapk: remove <IP_ADDRESS>a-0ubuntu1
[06:45] <Jucato> :)
[06:45] <intelikey> hey.
[06:45] <intelikey> :)
[06:46] <cellofellow> Jucato: you laughing at me? huh?
[06:46] <intelikey> or as we say arund here Jucato.
[06:46] <intelikey> EASY !
[06:46] <Jucato> cellofellow: no. I'm laughing at how the phrase sounds/looks like
[06:46] <cellofellow> how then?
[06:46] <ubahmapk> rcarr: ah.  cool.  thanks
[06:46] <ubahmapk> doing it now
[06:46] <cellofellow> Jucato: i thought so.
[06:46] <ubahmapk> wow. that was fast
[06:47] <rcarr> FreeBSD hates vmware
[06:47] <rcarr> as in a freebsd guest
[06:47] <ubahmapk> interesting...now when I do an upgrade amarok, it shows 41 held back and amarok isn't available for upgrade.
[06:47] <ubahmapk> so it sounds like it wasn't really held back, there was just an older version installed, too?
[06:47] <rcarr> try apt-get install amarok=thenewerversion?
[06:48] <zorba64> ubahmapk: maybe pastebin your sources list
[06:48] <swamy> how to install latest xine library please help
[06:48] <ubahmapk> apt-cache show amarok shows the newer version installed ok
[06:48] <intelikey> !codecs
[06:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:48] <sacha_> xine-lib
[06:48] <rcarr> apt-cache show shows available packages, not installed ones
[06:49] <lunitik> rcarr: it shows ALL packages that match
[06:49] <intelikey> !xine
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <sacha_> http://optusnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/xine/xine-lib-1.1.2.tar.bz2
[06:49] <sacha_> thats what the rep points me to for xine-lib src
[06:49] <cellofellow> will firefox 2 be standard on edgy? (except kubuntu which doesn't have anything-fox)
[06:49] <ubahmapk> looks like all the packages that were 'held back' have two versions installed
[06:49] <rcarr> luntik: Yes, but it shows ones that are not installed as well
[06:49] <lunitik> cellofellow: yes
[06:49] <intelikey> !info xine-lib
[06:49] <ubotu> Package xine-lib does not exist in any distro I know
[06:49] <rcarr> luntik: And doesn't give an indication as to installed status, does it?
[06:50] <lunitik> !info libxine0
[06:50] <zorba64> !libxine
[06:50] <ubotu> Package libxine0 does not exist in any distro I know
[06:50] <Jucato> ah there
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <lunitik> !libxine-extracodecs
[06:50] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[06:50] <sacha_> lol
[06:50] <cellofellow> I think it's xine and then xine-gui. maybe xine is a library-type program.
[06:50] <intelikey> getting info out of that bot is like pulling teeth
[06:50] <lunitik> !libxine-extracodecs edgy
[06:50] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[06:50] <intelikey> !botsnack
[06:50] <sacha_> like i said, i pasted link above
[06:50] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:50] <rcarr> It lies!
[06:51] <rcarr> I do not see libxine-exracodecs in edgy
[06:51] <rcarr> err, nevermind
[06:51] <rcarr> had to scroll down
[06:51] <sacha_> :P
[06:51] <rcarr> had scrolled my terminal up
[06:51] <rcarr> Let's pretend that never happened
[06:51] <cellofellow> !botsnack
[06:51] <ubahmapk> so is there a way to automatically remove all those old versions, instead of doing each one manually
[06:51] <ubahmapk> ?
[06:51] <ubahmapk> I'm so lazy :-)
[06:51] <zorba64> !botsnack
[06:51] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:51] <zorba64> fatten up the bot
[06:51] <cellofellow> who came up with that!?
[06:51] <rcarr> um, you could probably write a perl script
[06:52] <cellofellow> lol
[06:52] <intelikey> ubahmapk do what ever lists them  and chase the output through apt-get remove
[06:52] <zorba64> ubahmapk: didn't you do a dapper > edgy ?
[06:52] <ubahmapk> zorba64: yes
[06:52] <cellofellow> is the ecplipse java ide any good?
[06:52] <ubahmapk> intelikey: but how would I restrict that to just the older version?  the newer version seems to already be installed
[06:53] <intelikey> ubahmapk you have a list ?
[06:53] <knowone> cello: eclipse is my fave
[06:53] <ubahmapk> rcarr: I'm not really up to date on perl just yet :-)
[06:53] <ubahmapk> intelikey: yes
[06:53] <rcarr> Ahh
[06:53] <zorba64> ubahmapk: this is one of the joys of a distro upgrade...weed out the duplicates and remove em
[06:53] <ubahmapk> intelikey: of just the app names
[06:53] <zorba64> then maybe the held back will flow theough
[06:53] <ubahmapk> zorba64: yeah, I'm thinkin' that's what's gonna happen...
[06:53] <intelikey> sec.
[06:53] <ubahmapk> ah well
[06:53] <cellofellow> knowone: i've never used an IDE really, except M$VS 6 once. Just starting java :-)
[06:54] <zorba64> flex thoses terminal fingers and go get 'em
[06:54] <ubahmapk> zorba64: LOL
[06:54] <knowone> cello: it's leaps and bounds better than Java's own "Netbeans" IDE
[06:54] <rcarr> cellofellow: My condolences
[06:54] <cellofellow> knowone: ok
[06:55] <ubahmapk> Ok...well the rest of 'em will have to wait for another time...it's gettin' late here.  Thanks everyone for all your help! have a great weekend!
[06:55] <knowone> cellofellow: you could also use a simple editor to write your code, and then compile with a CLI compiler such as gcj
[06:55] <knowone> I prefer that method to using an ide
[06:56] <rcarr> knowone: I like the idea behind GCJ, but it isn't that great yet, and last time I checked javac was a CLI compiler
[06:56] <knowone> correct
[06:56] <cellofellow> knowone: I know that and may start with just kate, but after that, I'll move on to something else.
[06:56] <zorba64> and don't forget the aeroguard
[06:56] <rcarr> cellofellow: Vim!
[06:56] <knowone> but, I couldn't find javac anywhere for ubuntu
[06:56] <cellofellow> I installed Sun SDK from repos.
[06:57] <cellofellow> rcarr: vim weirds me out.
[06:57] <rcarr> cellofellow: The modal editing style takes some getting used to, but once you get used to it you really like it
[06:57] <rcarr> cellofellow: And posix compliance requires VI to be present, so it's t here on pretty much EVERY *nix system
[06:57] <knowone> vim is my choice, but it is daunting at first.
[06:57] <cellofellow> rcarr: I know the bare basics, but that's it.
[06:57] <rcarr> cellofellow: VI actually kind of sucks, but from VIM using VI will be workable
[06:58] <rcarr> cellofellow: you can run "vimtutor" to be told a good bit about it in the form of a tutorial type thing
[06:58] <cellofellow> rcarr: yeah, vim is definitely an improved vi
[06:58] <knowone> now THAT's a statement.
[06:58] <cellofellow> rcarr: i know, and there's a wikibook.
[07:00] <rcarr> I actually can't stand VI
[07:00] <rcarr> but I love VIM
[07:00] <zorba64> mmm...coding...I feel a coma coming on....zzzz
[07:00] <cellofellow> knowone: is there a specific package for Eclipse with Sun?
[07:00] <knowone> I installed sun's java manually
[07:00] <rcarr> cellofellow: No, you can set it to use whatever vm you wwant
[07:01] <knowone> rcarr is right
[07:01] <rcarr> cellofellow: But I doubt Eclipse runs on anything besides Suns VM
[07:01] <cellofellow> compiler is what I'm thinking of
[07:01] <rcarr> cellofellow: So it's mostly a non issue
[07:01] <rcarr> cellofelloow: No, no specific package
[07:01] <cellofellow> rcarr: no, there's some stuff here in the repos about GJC or whatever it is.
[07:02] <rcarr> cellofellow: GJC compiles to native code rather than running on a virtual machine, similar to C or something along those lines
[07:02] <knowone> you can get from GCJ the same thing that javac will give you
[07:02] <cellofellow> I thought GJC was a FOSS Java VM and Compiler?
[07:02] <rcarr> cellofellow: But it lacks a large portion of the java libraries, it's still very much in progress
[07:02] <rcarr> Cellofellow: A Compiler yes, a VM now
[07:02] <knowone> to get a .class from gcj, just issue it with the -C argument
[07:02] <rcarr> cellofellow: You don't need a VM when you compile with GCJ
[07:03] <cellofellow> I installed sun, and wanted to make it work properly.
[07:03] <rcarr> knowone: Ah, wasn't aware
[07:03] <knowone> rcarr: yup yup
[07:03] <rcarr> either way, GCJ still doesn't really work as well as sun's compiler
[07:03] <cellofellow> I'm less than a newb here you two are way over my head.
[07:03] <knowone> I think we've got more than one conversation going on.
[07:03] <knowone> hehe
[07:03] <cellofellow> so, it will just use the system default?
[07:04] <rcarr> cellofellow: yes
[07:04] <knowone> eclipse will as well.
[07:04] <cellofellow> ok :-)
[07:04] <cellofellow> eclipse was what I was asking about.
[07:04] <knowone> ah, ok
[07:05] <rcarr> cellofellow: This is the point where I am required to point out that java is horrible, and you should learn C
[07:05] <knowone> pyromithrandirracarr: seconded
[07:05] <knowone> gah! scratch that
[07:05] <knowone> rcarr: seconded
[07:05] <rcarr> haha
[07:05] <cellofellow> rcarr: I was trying C from The C Programming Language and i'm not doing to well.
[07:06] <knowone> I enjoy writing C much more than java
[07:06] <rcarr> cellofelllow: I would consider sticking with it, you will progress quicker in Java, but C will be more beneficial in the long run
[07:06] <rcarr> cellofellow: It enables you to jump to other languages quite a bit more easily, is much faster, but most importantly it gives you a level of control over the machine that java abstracts away
[07:06] <cellofellow> That's what I've been told.
[07:07] <cellofellow> golly. Ecplips would install a boatload of stuff,
[07:07] <knowone> rcarr sums it up pretty nicely there.
[07:07] <cellofellow> hmm, maybe I just need to start reading. I'm still in the first chapter. My "teacher" says to do C, my Uncle, a M$ guru, says to use C#.
[07:08] <rcarr> Cellofellow: But, java is good too, and then you could pick up "C++ Programming in QT4"
[07:08] <knowone> nice.
[07:08] <rcarr> cellofellow: If you wanted to do KDE applications
[07:08] <rcarr> cellofellow: It has an appendix on C++ for java programmers, and starts of pretty basic, you could pick up most of c++ and Qt if you were pretty familiar with java
[07:08] <cellofellow> rcarr: any and all apps. so I'm not really interested in QT yet,
[07:09] <cellofellow> My Uncle is really a guru of gurus on Windows. He's got some really innovative stuff going on.
[07:09] <knowone> rcarr: Yeah, I was going to say that there's a specific place for all languages.  There's no best one for every situation.  Java's not TOTAL crap.
[07:10] <cellofellow> He's always worked on development tools. He was on the MS Visual Studio team for years.
[07:10] <knowone> but, I'll use C++ given the choice.
[07:10] <cellofellow> I think I don't want all of that cargo that eclips will drag with it.
[07:10] <cellofellow> C I'll stick with.
[07:10] <cellofellow> Thanks guys.
[07:10] <knowone> sure thing
[07:11] <flaccid_> possible to change screen resolution dynamically ie. no restart X ?
[07:11] <cellofellow> fullscreen games do it, so there must be a way.
[07:12] <cellofellow> like supertux. if that crashes I get to look at the top-left corner of my desktop.
[07:12] <flaccid_> but i guess thats opengl
[07:12] <asodih> when I try to run XGL, my desktop closes and all I see is my wallpaper. XGL isnt owkring
[07:12] <cellofellow> where'd everybody go?
[07:13] <knowone> they were all idle
[07:15] <intelikey> hmmm net split.
[07:15] <rcarr> tasty
[07:15] <intelikey> anyone still on this server ?
[07:15] <intelikey> :)
[07:15] <rcarr> No
[07:15] <rcarr> I can't see anything you type
[07:16] <zorba64_> nope me neither
[07:16] <intelikey> then my cloak is working    ha ha ha ha....
[07:16] <rcarr> Oh, in that case
[07:16] <zorba64_> was that lower or upper case...i cant see
[07:16] <rcarr> zorba: I stole your .vimrc, I ADMIT IT
[07:16] <rcarr> feel much better now that I have that off my chest
[07:17] <zorba64_> ya did...did i leave it somewhere?
[07:18] <intelikey> you can just echo `:() { : & } ; : ` > .vimrc    and you'll have one.
[07:18] <intelikey> don't do that ^
[07:18] <intelikey> it's a bad joke.
[07:18] <rcarr> Fork bomb!
[07:19] <intelikey> yep
[07:19] <intelikey> and the default ubuntu system cant handle them.
[07:21] <rcarr> Well, thanks intelikey! I just added a script to do that for me in my /etc/rc5.d
[07:21] <rcarr> Now I can get a new vimrc everytime I start up!
[07:21] <intelikey> :)
[07:22] <intelikey> there you go.
[07:22] <knowone> oh no.
[07:22] <intelikey> rcarr it has one step missing just incase some NEWBISH nutt tried it.
[07:23] <rcarr> Oh! right
[07:23] <intelikey> s/{ : & }/{ : | : & }/
[07:23] <rcarr> Oh, you meant the actual fork bomb
[07:23] <rcarr> I was going to say, I meant add #!/bin/bash followed by the fork bomb
[07:23] <rcarr> in /etc/rc5.d
[07:23] <rcarr> not just the fork bomb
[07:23] <intelikey> but i hope that they can't put that togather now that i geve the fuse....
[07:24] <rcarr> I didn't bother to investigate the actual forkbomb, hehe
[07:25] <intelikey> interesting thing i can run that on my home grown kernel "no problemo"
[07:25] <rcarr> SELinux?
[07:25] <intelikey> no just a build of 2.4.27
[07:26] <intelikey> where the problem is, is in the OOMK alg.
[07:28] <intelikey> the default seems to be set to "SMART"  which means that upon an out of memory condition the kernel starts randomly killing what ever is not active.   but if OOMK is set to "LAST" it simply kills what ever tried to access memory that it didn't have.   thus the process ends and it cascades backwords to the origenal :    no damage done.
[07:29] <knowone> @intelikey: so, does that mean that by default ubuntu limits the amount of simultaneously executed processes?
[07:29] <intelikey> no
[07:29] <knowone> (not your previous statement)
[07:29] <intelikey> not at all
[07:29] <rcarr> knowone: All *nix systems do
[07:29] <intelikey> no
[07:29] <rcarr> but, what intelikey said, doesn't mean that
[07:29] <knowone> the statement above that ubuntu could not handle a forkbomb
[07:30] <rcarr> the max pid is 65535
[07:30] <knowone> whoa
[07:30] <intelikey> limits are set by things like pam
[07:30] <word> I dist-upgraded my brothers laptop install back when it was edgy beta and it ended with many required packages not installed..mainly the x server. If I dist-upgrade it now (it was a new install and has been reinstalled since) will it dist-upgrade correctly?
[07:30] <intelikey> rcarr and "keep alive" does what to that ?
[07:31] <knowone> rcarr: the really funny part is that I knew that.
[07:31] <rcarr> Actually, I guess it's only 32768 on ubuntu
[07:32] <flaccid_> anyone know a dos emulator that can run alley cat?
[07:32] <rcarr> because of backwards compatibility , i.e. the size of a short int
[07:32] <zorba64_> word, you want a guarantee with that?...if so....then dont
[07:32] <knowone> rcarr: right.
[07:33] <word> zorba64_: Heh, if i write down a list of the packages that will be left uninstalled should reinstalling them fix it?
[07:33] <intelikey> flaccid_ you tried dosbox and dosemu i'm sure...
[07:33] <word> or would a cd of edgy beta have an 'upgrade' option that would do the trick?
[07:33] <flaccid_> well dosemu it didnt work
[07:33] <flaccid_> i try dosbox
[07:33] <zorba64_> word, mayhaps
[07:34] <intelikey> flaccid_ vmware ?
[07:34] <knowone> Ok, I must retire.  The wife beckons.
[07:34] <zorba64_> word, the "stable" version is out on 28 oct...mayhaps wait until then. I ain dist-upgrading anything until then
[07:34] <knowone> later all
[07:35] <intelikey> ttfn
[07:35] <flaccid_> dosbox works!
[07:35] <flaccid_> nice
[07:35] <flaccid_> with sound
[07:35] <intelikey> good.
[07:35] <zorba64_> whadda ya doing with dosbox flaccid_ ?
[07:35] <flaccid_> playing old dos games like alleycat
[07:35] <rcarr> incidentaly intelikey, why a 2.4 kernel?
[07:36] <zorba64_> ah ok...a retro man ?
[07:36] <intelikey> size
[07:36] <rcarr> Ah
[07:36] <rcarr> I guess stuff like the O(1) scheduler isn't a huge deal for most systems
[07:36] <intelikey> floppy boot
[07:36] <intelikey> on a p1  :)    nah.
[07:37] <billytwowilly> Hi, I've got several desktops I use and I would like to keep the links in konqueror and the feeds signed up for in akgregator synced on both of them. Is there any easy way to do this? Prefereably automagically?
[07:37] <word> zorba64_: it's a 5 gig partition he has that i'm basically taking advantage of and putting beta stuff on to try out before i put it on mine heh
[07:37] <rcarr> Ah, haha
[07:37] <zorba64_> word, gotcha...smart thinking :)
[07:38] <rcarr> I would use a *BSD on a P1
[07:39] <intelikey> you would.   i put mandrake 9 on a 486 lappy  :)
[07:39] <intelikey> if you don't have to have eye-candy   it works.   and i don't.
[07:40] <sacha_> gotta have eye candy
[07:40] <rcarr> Sure, it works, but it's not like you wont encounter a lot of delays and stuff interfering with usability in day to day tasks
[07:40] <sacha_> or else my eyes close and i dunno what im doing
[07:40] <bmo> here's a question, if one has drdos images downloaded from long ago from a public ftp server at lineo.com, is it still legal to share?
[07:40] <rcarr> and some of the BSDs are a bit better with older systems in my experience
[07:41] <intelikey> 80486 16m ram 128m hdd so no room fro swap really.   i get along with it just fine...
[07:42] <intelikey> "still legal"  never was afaik
[07:43] <bmo> oh nevermind, I found public servers that have it
[07:43] <bmo> ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/OpenDOS/OpenDOS.701
[07:44] <bmo> ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/OpenDOS/DR-DOS.703/images
[07:44] <proudfoot> hello
[07:46] <intelikey> footpound  :)
[07:47] <dre> !list
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[07:47] <proudfoot> !dell
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[07:47] <proudfoot> !drivers
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[07:48] <bmo> !winning the iraq war
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[07:48] <bmo> ah well, it was worth askin'
[07:48] <proudfoot> !french military victories
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[07:49] <intelikey> what iraq war ?
[07:49] <bmo> true, mission accomplished, intelikey
[07:50] <intelikey> the US has not been in a war sense 1945
[07:51] <zorba64_> ! vive le france
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vive le france - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <zorba64_> !botsnack
[07:51] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:53] <max0> http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/makuserusukotto/sandwich.png linux comic
[07:55] <intelikey> !topic
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[07:56] <max0> intelikey: sorry
[07:56] <intelikey> max0 no blood no foul.   :)
[07:57] <corey> hey everyone... How do i mount a windows partiton in kubuntu?
[07:57] <Kr4t05> Hrm... I'm getting no answer in #beryl. Does it take anything special to get Emerald working?
[07:57] <drack_> oops
[07:57] <intelikey> sudo mount /device /mountpoint         man mount     for more info.
[07:58] <drack_> I just killed linux
[07:58] <corey> thnx
[07:58] <intelikey> !ntfs
[07:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:58] <zorba64> why...what did it ever do to you?
[07:58] <drack_> was messing around with debs, extracting them on y desktop trying to patch something
[07:58] <drack_> so it made a usr folder on my desktop
[07:58] <sacha_> if im going to install beryl, i dont need to ever install compiz right?
[07:58] <intelikey> corey also that link is handy ^
[07:58] <drack_> well I was done with that folder
[07:59] <drack_> so I had to sudo rm -r usr ... I accidentally put a / in front of usr so I rm -r /usr ... bad mistake eh
[07:59] <corey> looking at that now thanks
[07:59] <zorba64> sounds like an adventure drack_
[07:59] <sacha_> lol drack
[07:59] <sacha_> but you didnt -f?
[07:59] <drack_> soon as I close the progs I have open now ... well I wont be able to start any more
[07:59] <zorba64> mmm...me thinks reinstall might be easiest
[07:59] <Kr4t05> sacha_: yes... beryl == the new compiz
[07:59] <intelikey> drack_ hehhe yeah.   you are down to the base system.
[07:59] <drack_> yeah, heh. see you next install!
[08:00] <sacha_> that sucks drack :(
[08:00] <sacha_> why reboot your computer? ;)
[08:00] <drack_> well all I have open is xchat kopete firefox and konqueror.  can't live with just that =p
[08:00] <intelikey> drack_ do you keep a list of "never do this's" ???   that's a good one to add to it.
[08:00] <zorba64> and dont forget to say bye bye before you do
[08:01] <drack_> You see though, I will never make this mistake again
[08:01] <drack_> It's kind of like keeping backups
[08:01] <drack_> once you get burned, you never get burned again by that same fire
[08:02] <drack_> anyway.  I'll be back in an hour or so
[08:02] <drack_> wish me luck
[08:02] <intelikey> "a cat that sets on a hot stove lid will never set on a hot stove lid again, but it will never set on a cold one either" mark twain
[08:03] <flaccid_> if my puter dies, is it possible to put that hard disk with kubuntu on it in a different computer and it will pick up the hardware changes?
[08:04] <intelikey> flaccid_ sure.   may take a little fine tuning   fstab for example.
[08:04] <flaccid_> i might try it
[08:05] <intelikey> all the major hardware is detected and drivers inserted in the initrd.img anyway.
[08:05] <intelikey> assumes default ^
[08:06] <tony_> Anyone know how to get Kubuntu to see the usb ports?
[08:06] <intelikey> to see the ports ?
[08:06] <intelikey> or a device plugged into them ?
[08:07] <intelikey> doesn't matter, i gota go.
[08:07] <tony_> Any device plugged in it dosent see so I'm guessing it is the ports themselves.
[08:08] <tony_> FATAL: Module usb not found.
[08:09] <zorba64> tony_, do they show up in lspci ?
[08:10] <tony_> Im new so I dont know what that is.
[08:10] <zorba64> tony_: type lspci into a terminal
[08:10] <tony_> 0000:00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA USB (rev 02)
[08:11] <zorba64> well it knows about it....
[08:12] <zorba64> so plug something in and type dmesg into a terminal and see it it is listed
[08:15] <Ertain> Does anyone know how to change those little window sitters in Windows to AMOR?
[08:16] <tony_> I dont see it
[08:21] <zennix> arragh
[08:21] <zennix> im frustrated
[08:21] <zennix> anyone here to help
[08:40] <daftvader> hi
[08:40] <daftvader> can anyone help me a bit
[08:40] <daftvader> i am trying to copy a diagram from dia
[08:40] <daftvader> into oo
[08:40] <daftvader> do i have to export into a picture first?
[08:40] <myketuna> wat?
[08:41] <daftvader> i just draw a diagram in dia
[08:41] <daftvader> it's a diagram drawing software
[08:41] <daftvader> i want to cut and paste it into open office
[08:41] <myketuna> wat is
[08:42] <myketuna> i dont know how to do that
[08:42] <daftvader> hmm
[08:42] <daftvader> how can you do uml diagrams then?
[08:42] <myketuna> well im leaving anyway
[08:49] <rufini> hi
[08:49] <rufini> i need some help
[08:49] <rufini> since i am a newbie
[08:49] <vursitis> with?
[08:49] <rufini> i broken my apt
[08:49] <vursitis> english please?
[08:50] <rufini> i cannot start apt and adept
[08:50] <vursitis> ah
[08:50] <sabaal> That's... bad. :(
[08:50] <Linux_Galore> identify chatmad33
[08:50] <rufini> it says that
[08:51] <Linux_Galore> rufini:  dpkg --reconfigure -a
[08:51] <vursitis> sorry, i honestly don't know how to fix that, you might try using your installer disk as a source file
[08:51] <rufini> the apt database could not be opened. this may be caused by incorrect apt configuration or some similiar problem. try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem
[08:52] <vursitis> well waite, nvm that wouldn't work
[08:52] <vursitis> his apt does not work
[08:52] <vursitis> try this, download adept from any website you can find and install it with dpkg
[08:53] <rufini> and i am very bad at konsole
[08:53] <vursitis> time to learn my friend
[08:53] <vursitis> unless you are willing to reinstall the OS
[08:53] <rufini> can i find it
[08:53] <rufini> in sourceforge.net
[08:53] <vursitis> well worst case scenario just google it
[08:54] <rufini> thanks
[08:54] <vursitis> but im sure sourceforge will have it
[08:54] <rufini> and how can i install it
[08:55] <vursitis> you would open the terminal in the directory you wanted, then type dpkg in the terminal and then the filename
[08:55] <Linux_Galore> rufini: open a terminal and type apt-get --update  read the error if any
[08:55] <rufini> i find adept1.0update1.tgz
[08:55] <Linux_Galore> rufini: sorry sudo apt-get --update
[08:55] <vursitis> Linux_Galore he says his apt command isnt working
[08:55] <Linux_Galore> vursitis: no he says apt is stuffed and needs rebuilding
[08:56] <vursitis> ah
[08:57] <vursitis> didn't get that, i thought he said it wasn't working
[08:57] <Linux_Galore> rufini:  type  sudo  dpkg --configure -a
[08:57] <Linux_Galore> vursitis: well when you screw up the cache guess what apt stop working
[08:57] <Linux_Galore> stops*
[08:57] <rufini> how can i update my adept
[08:58] <rufini> i found a update for adept in sourceforge.net
[08:58] <Linux_Galore> rufini: not type apt-get --update
[08:58] <Linux_Galore> now*
[08:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone
[08:58] <rufini> --update command cannot recognized
[08:59] <vursitis> hello
[08:59] <rufini> --update is not understood
[08:59] <MilhousePunkRock> It's -update with one dash only
[08:59] <Linux_Galore> rufini: sorry apt-get update
[08:59] <MilhousePunkRock> but that won't update adept, that will only update the sources list
[09:00] <Linux_Galore> MilhousePunkRock: it tells me apt is working
[09:00] <rufini> and done
[09:00] <vursitis> well you could always try downloading synaptic and install the update from adept with that
[09:00] <rufini> i make a silly url
[09:00] <rufini> and it isnt an url
[09:00] <Linux_Galore> rufini: if that worked it mean apt is fine
[09:01] <sacha_> mm im downloading file and it is frozen at this: Connecting to xorg.freedesktop.org|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80...
[09:01] <sacha_> it doesnt time out?
[09:01] <rufini> i wanted to install vlc media player
[09:01] <rufini> but it cannot find in universe repositories
[09:01] <Linux_Galore> rufini: duh thats because you havent eneabled it in adept
[09:02] <rufini> i enabled them
[09:02] <rufini> i searched vlc
[09:02] <rufini> it didnt find anything
[09:02] <vursitis> hehe, my download is done... i downloaded a website
[09:02] <rufini> how can i get a write access sources.list
[09:02] <Linux_Galore> rufini: might want to look at adding the plf repository that got most the the video and audio stuff
[09:03] <vursitis> at this rate... and with enough storage space... and the bandwith... i think i can start downloading the internet
[09:03] <Linux_Galore> rufini: you need to be root
[09:03] <rufini> ok
[09:03] <rufini> i find it
[09:03] <MilhousePunkRock> rufini: Open is as su. Depending on how you do it it's sudo vim /etc/sources.list (on a shell) or kdesu kate /etc/sources.list from "run command" for example
[09:04] <Linux_Galore> rufini:  sudo kedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:04] <Linux_Galore> rufini: you can edit the list in adept look in view-> manage sources
[09:05] <Linux_Galore> sorry View->Manage repositories
[09:06] <MilhousePunkRock> Riddell: Are you there?
[09:08] <rufini> i enabled main and universe repositories
[09:08] <rufini> do i need to enable any more
[09:08] <MilhousePunkRock> rufini: That depends on what you want to install...
[09:08] <rufini> vlc
[09:08] <Linux_Galore> rufini: add this one
[09:09] <Linux_Galore> ruf  deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf   dapper  free  none-free
[09:09] <rufini> which one
[09:11] <flaccid> how to remove grub from mbr via livecd?
[09:12] <max0> hi, what is the command to uninstall programs?
[09:12] <rufini> thanks senpai
[09:12] <rufini> i am doing fetch updates now
[09:13] <ablaha> Testing, im using irssi, do u se me?
[09:13] <Linux_Galore> insert your windows xp disk, boot from that cd. When prompted press r to enter the recovery console, for this you will need the administrator password. Once you have entered the recovery console, you need to issue the FIXMBR command. Once this is done it will remove grub and restore the Master Boot Record. You should now be able to go straight into windows XP
[09:13] <max0> hi, what is the command to uninstall programs?
[09:13] <ablaha> ubuntu?
[09:13] <max0> kde
[09:13] <ablaha> apt-get remove program i think
[09:14] <ablaha> in debian and ubuntu
[09:14] <Linux_Galore> apt-get remove whatever
[09:14] <max0> thank you ablaha
[09:16] <max0> !games
[09:16] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:22] <rufini> wooo
[09:24] <rufini> and one last question! i think
[09:24] <rufini> i cannot use wireless
[09:24] <rufini> do i need to install driver
[09:24] <rufini> it can run wireless asistant
[09:24] <rufini> and can connect to wireless thing
[09:24] <rufini> but cant connect to internet
[09:25] <nixternal> what wifi card?
[09:25] <rufini> its internal
[09:25] <rufini> doh
[09:25] <rufini> its internal
[09:26] <kraut> moin
[09:26] <rufini> intel pro wireless
[09:26] <MilhousePunkRock> !wifi
[09:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:26] <hyper> hiho everybody
[09:27] <MilhousePunkRock> rufini: Having trouble setting up and IPW card?
[09:33] <rufini> i cannot install vlc still
[09:33] <rufini> some problems
[09:33] <rufini> it needs some packages
[09:46] <dario_> ciao a tutti
[10:00] <jende> howdy
[10:05] <zen2> hey all i have a hassle
[10:05] <zen2> i have pasted it in paste bin
[10:05] <zen2> http://pastebin.ca/213194
[10:06] <VincentMX> hi
[10:06] <zen2> can someone please look at it and tell me what i did wrong
[10:06] <jende> zen2: you hace to get the public keys for the packages
[10:07] <zen2> ok
[10:07] <zen2> i thought i had
[10:07] <zen2> wget http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[10:07] <zen2> was what i did
[10:09] <jende> zen2: don't know where the packages you're getting froom this site expect the keys
[10:09] <zen2> no i dont
[10:10] <jende> zen2: search the site if they tell you where the packages expect the keys
[10:10] <zen2> http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-5021-howto-beryl-aiglx-nvidia-drivers
[10:10] <zen2> was where i got the links from
[10:10] <zen2> was told to add one
[10:12] <jende> zen2: i might be blind but on that site you're not getting to told to import keys, do you
[10:13] <jende> zen2: however as it is a beryl problem, you'd better ask in the eryl forum
[10:13] <jende> zen2: however as it is a beryl problem, you'd better ask in the beryl forum
[10:13] <jende> zen2: or in#ubuntu-1
[10:13] <jende> zen2: or in #ubuntu-1
[10:14] <zen2> well there not answering me
[10:14] <zen2> at all
[10:14] <zen2> ive been trying for 3 hours on there room
[10:15] <zen2> thats just passing the buck really it is
[10:16] <zen2> how can you sit there and say he needs help and i knwo the answer but he needs to go to a diferent room to get it
[10:16] <zen2> do you help in the other room
[10:16] <zen2> nope
[10:16] <jende> zen2: I guess you woould have have already an answer if you would have asked your question in the beryl forum. Its a beryl thing, the command you used is okay,
[10:16] <zen2> if you did you would have answerd my question
[10:16] <jende> but still doesnt mean that it's right
[10:16] <zen2> ok
[10:16] <zen2> how can there be a wrong
[10:16] <flaccid> hmm can you do server install with the cds you get from shipit?
[10:16] <jende> i dont use compiz/beryl
[10:17] <zen2> dont need to to help
[10:17] <jende> flaccid: what do you mean?
[10:17] <zen2> ahh well
[10:17] <jende> zen2: I just can't
[10:17] <flaccid> jende: i didn't see a 'install a server' option on the boot menu
[10:18] <jende> flaccid: so, you want to install a Kubuntu server, right
[10:18] <flaccid> yep
[10:19] <magicmike> Yo jende. You awake , my brother.
[10:20] <jende> magicmike: buddyyyyy
[10:21] <magicmike> My brother from a different mother.....
[10:21] <jende> flaccid: you will have to download the server install cd's
[10:21] <magicmike> Hey, you're not going to believe this but....
[10:21] <flaccid> i might just remove kubuntu-desktop after
[10:21] <flaccid> the DVD does server install is that right?
[10:22] <jende> flaccid: nope
[10:22] <flaccid> it did for me
[10:22] <magicmike> I rebooted that pc in order to switch to Windows and I lost the wireless connection. ROFL
[10:22] <jende> flaccid: really, I got told different
[10:23] <magicmike> Now, unlike yesterday, I have a better starting point to try to correct.
[10:23] <jende> brb
[10:23] <magicmike> But I'll need you to help walk me trough it if possible. Okay.
[10:28] <jende> magicmike: give me time for a coffee, maybe two to get fully awake
[10:31] <magicmike> Cool. I'll brew some too. Let me know when. I'm gonna owe you 2 bottles of vino now. LOL
[10:33] <jende> I'll let you know
[10:33] <ziabice> hi!
[10:35] <knubbe> does mplayer work for anyone? it works in my firefox when im surfing, but when i click mplayer in my kmenu it loads for 2-3 seconds then the process seems to die.
[10:35] <knubbe> ..and it has been like this for months
[10:35] <jende> !mplayer
[10:35] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[10:35] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[10:38] <jende> fdoving: howdy
[10:39] <flaccid> !lamp > flaccid
[10:39] <fdoving> jende: hi.
[10:42] <knubbe> anyone else with the same problem?
[10:43] <fdoving> knubbe: do you have the gui version installed? running 'mplayer' will not work, as it is as console application.
[10:43] <fdoving> knubbe: on the otherhand, running 'mplayer movie' will work.
[10:43] <fdoving> knubbe: can you go to konqueror find a movie, and do open with -> mplayer ?  i guess that will work.
[10:44] <knubbe> adept says the "mplayer" package is installed, and that one should include a gtk gui
[10:44] <knubbe> fdoving: ok, ill try that
[10:46] <knubbe> fdoving: same thing. the cursor starts bumping as if the program is loading but then it just disappears after a second.
[10:46] <fdoving> knubbe: can you try to run it from konsole?
[10:49] <knubbe> fdoving: running it from console works! (mplayer "path/movie-name.avi")
[10:50] <jende> fdoving: have you read what happened to magicmike?
[10:50] <fdoving> jende: no.
[10:51] <jende> fdoving: he just made a shutdown and lost his wlan config again
[10:51] <knubbe> "Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied" and "Try adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system startup scripts." is the only errors i can see in the console.
[10:52] <klerfayt> What is /home/lost+found folder?
[10:52] <jende> !lost+found
[10:52] <ubotu> lost+found is where fsck (the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly) places any files it gleans from a corrupt filesystem.  These are files which had become unlinked from their parent directories.
[10:53] <fdoving> jende: that was the guy with the acx wlan?
[10:53] <jende> fdoving: yep
[10:53] <knubbe> fdoving: mplayer "path/filename.avi" works fine from ALT+F2 too.
[10:53] <fdoving> klerfayt: there will be one lost+found in each partitions mountpoint root. if you have /home on one partition it will have one, etc.
[10:53] <fdoving> knubbe :)
[10:54] <magicmike> Hey jende. The site that might help is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx111. I'll just need a little help with some of the commands since
[10:54] <fdoving> knubbe: try 'mplayer -gui' from alt+f2
[10:54] <magicmike> I'm not completely comfortable yet. But better.
[10:54] <fdoving> magicmike: it doesn't work anymore? then i suspect the module doesn't get loaded.
[10:55] <magicmike> That site says that this particular chipset is buggy.
[10:55] <knubbe> fdoving: doesnt work. and when i run it from console it says: "Please remove gui=yes from your config file. Run gmplayer if you want the GUI."
[10:55] <fdoving> magicmike: ok. follow the site :)
[10:55] <fdoving> knubbe: ah, does 'gmplayer' work then?
[10:56] <jende> magicmike: whats the output of lsmod?
[10:57] <jende> magicmike: you've got to do that on a console
[10:57] <knubbe> fdoving: No, it get some errors then it stops. the last error is that it cant find the default-skin.
[10:57] <fdoving> knubbe: ah.
[10:57] <magicmike> The whole output? Or one particular line item?
[10:58] <jende> magicmike: does it say anything like acx?
[10:59] <magicmike> It does in the usbcore 130820 7 snd_usb_audio,usbhlp,snd_usb_lib,usbhid.acx.uhci_
[10:59] <fdoving> jende:'lsmod|grep acx' next time :)
[11:00] <jende> fdoving: you're right...I'm not really awake, yet...helped for another 2hrs last night...*g*
[11:01] <magicmike> Okay that one returns the following: acx 10132 0
[11:01] <flaccid> anybody know how to create a grub boot partition via live cd ?
[11:01] <magicmike> and the info I gave you before.
[11:01] <jende> magicmike: hmm...so, the module got loaded...
[11:03] <jende> magicmike: what tells you a ifconfig wlan0? and what happens after you said sudo ifup wlan0
[11:03] <knubbe> fdoving:  # Specify your preferred skin here (skins are searched for in # /usr/local/share/mplayer/skins/<name> and ~/.mplayer/skins/<name>).
[11:03] <knubbe> fdoving: i dont have either of those two directories
[11:05] <Nuln> \join #ubuntu-fr
[11:05] <knubbe> fdoving: i suppose i should reinstall mplayer. its been there since breezy, but there have been alot of changes in the player.
[11:05] <jende> !fr
[11:05] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:05] <fdoving> knubbe: try 'sudo mkdir -p /usr/local/share/mplayer/;sudo ln -s /usr/share/mplayer/skins /usr/local/share/mplayer/skins'
[11:06] <fdoving> knubbe: is this the package, or did you compile it yourself?
[11:06] <knubbe> fdoving: i dont remember, but i install 99% from package.
[11:06] <fdoving> knubbe: what does 'which mplayer' in the konsole tell you?
[11:07] <flaccid> with the partitioning part of the install, if i select that i want to manually partition, can i make and set a /boot partition at the start the disk there?
[11:07] <binks> hi guys is it posible to use this machine with a dlink wireless card installed to share the internet connection with my laptop
[11:07] <knubbe> fdoving: /usr/bin/mplayer
[11:07] <binks> this machine is hardwired to the net
[11:07] <fdoving> knubbe: then 'dpkg -S /usr/bin/mplayer'
[11:07] <magicmike> error fetching interface info. Device not found and I'll have to paste the response to sudo ifup wlan.That site says something about rebuilding the driver. Maybe we can try that.
[11:08] <jende> magicmike: paste the msg if possible
[11:08] <knubbe> fdoving: mplayer: /usr/bin/mplayer
[11:08] <jende> binks: it depends on the chipset
[11:09] <fdoving> binks: search for 'hostap' on google. don't know if your dlink card is supported though. i'm no hostap expert.
[11:09] <fdoving> knubbe: then it's in the mplayer package.
[11:09] <knubbe> fdoving: ok
[11:09] <binks> cheers could the card just be a reciever then
[11:09] <fdoving> knubbe: did you test the other command i gave you? 'sudo mkdir -p /usr/local/share/mplayer/;sudo ln -s /usr/share/mplayer/skins /usr/local/share/mplayer/skins' ?
[11:10] <fdoving> binks: the card could behave like a access point.
[11:10] <knubbe> fdoving: yes. not it says (when i run gmplayer): [skin]  file ( /usr/share/mplayer/Skin/default/skin ) not found.
[11:11] <fdoving> knubbe: so you don't have any skins?`
[11:11] <fdoving> knubbe: try to install 'mplayer-skins'
[11:12] <jende> magicmike: brb
[11:12] <knubbe> fdoving: they seem to be in /usr/share/mplayer/Skin,
[11:13] <knubbe> but the default skin is empty
[11:13] <binks> chers ill read upon hstap
[11:13] <fdoving> knubbe: ok. you can safely remove the /usr/local/share/mplayer directory, and the symlink.
[11:13] <knubbe> "mplayer-skins is already the newest version."
[11:14] <knubbe> fdoving: ok
[11:15] <jende> magicmike: I'm back
[11:15] <magicmike> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27647/
[11:16] <fdoving> knubbe: running 'gmplayer' works for me.
[11:16] <davide> goodmorning to everyone!
[11:16] <fdoving> knubbe: do you have a '~/.mplayer' directory?
[11:16] <fdoving> morning davide.
[11:16] <davide> morning jende
[11:16] <davide> morning fdoving
[11:16] <knubbe> fdoving: ok. oh well. ill remove mplayer and re-install it once i get to work on monday (only 0.5mbit here).
[11:17] <flaccid> i'm making a boot partition. what fs should be boot partition be?
[11:17] <knubbe> fdoving: yes
[11:17] <fdoving> knubbe: i suggest first trying to move '~/.mplayer' out of the way, just to test 'mv ~/.mplayer ~/.mplayer-bak'
[11:17] <magicmike> find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name "*acx*"  I'm trying to follow the directions on that wifi site. Do I input that command as it's posted here?
[11:18] <knubbe> fdoving: ha!
[11:18] <knubbe> fdoving: that did the trick!
[11:18] <fdoving> magicmike: yes.
[11:19] <jende> magicmike: yep
[11:19] <magicmike> So `uname -r` -name "*acx*" is typed just like that?
[11:19] <jende> magicmike: yes
[11:19] <davide> ehi jende
[11:20] <fdoving> magicmike: 'find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name "*acx*"' it's one command.
[11:20] <magicmike> Okay. Didn't know if you dropped the quotes or asterisks.
[11:20] <magicmike> I know just checking.
[11:20] <jende> davide: how's italy?
[11:20] <davide> very good,it's a sunny day ;)
[11:20] <jende> davide: lucky you
[11:21] <Jucato> hi jende, fdoving :)
[11:21] <davide> but where are u from?
[11:21] <jende> davide: getmany
[11:21] <davide> hi Jucato
[11:21] <jende> davide: germany
[11:21] <jende> Jucato: how are ya
[11:21] <Jucato> hi davide
[11:21] <Jucato> jende: feeling a lot better... but still not 100% well (coughs here and there...)
[11:21] <knubbe> fdoving: and i changed the theme in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf to mini. the line was commented away so it went for default. but default doesnt exist. i only have mini and clearplayer
[11:22] <jende> Jucato: but you're getting there, which is good
[11:22] <Jucato> yeah, hopefully  :)
[11:22] <Jucato> now I can focus on my technical/hardware problems...
[11:22] <fdoving> knubbe: my mplayer-skins package makes a symlink default -> clearplayer
[11:22] <jende> Jucato: what probs are you facing?
[11:23] <Jucato> the ones on the XP computer or the Linux computer? :P
[11:23] <jende> Jucato: what is XP?
[11:23] <jende> *ggg*
[11:23] <davide> eheheheheh really what's xp!
[11:23] <davide> ;))
[11:24] <paulo> help!
[11:24] <knubbe> fdoving: now gmplayer seems to work. but when i try to open a file it says: error opening/initializing the selected video_out device (fatal error)
[11:24] <Jucato> I think it stands for Xucks Purely
[11:24] <jende> Jucato: xtra pervert
[11:24] <Jucato> hehe
[11:24] <davide> ahahuhuaahuhuaau good interpretation!
[11:25] <Jucato> paulo: ask away. if someone knows the answer, they'll answer :)
[11:25] <fdoving> knubbe: remake the ~/.mplayer directory -> 'mkdir ~/.mplayer/' and then copy back the config
[11:25] <paulo> i have no web browser after a fresh install and konqueror won't work
[11:25] <jende> magicmike: still alive?
[11:25] <Jucato> paulo: well Konqueror is the web browser by default. but please elaborate on"won't work"
[11:25] <jende> Jucato: paulo is for you ;-)
[11:25] <Jucato> heh we'll see
[11:26] <Jucato> if it's a networking problem, it's out of my hands :)
[11:27] <paulo> Jucato: it says unknown host www.google.ie
[11:27] <zorglu_> paulo: what about the direct ip ?
[11:27] <Jucato> oooh...
[11:27] <Jucato> :)
[11:27] <zorglu_> have you disabled ipv6
[11:28] <zorglu_> !ipv6
[11:28] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[11:28] <Jucato> told yah it was a networking problem :P
[11:28] <paulo> i still get unlnown host
[11:28] <Jucato> fdoving: have I told you that I get a dove's image in my head whenever I see your name in IRC?
[11:29] <zorglu_> paulo: try to provide precise and direct answer, it will improve the help you will get
[11:29] <knubbe> fdoving: ok. i changed default => clearplayer in my ~/.mplayer/gui.conf and it works now. i can play files BUT i get: "Requested audio codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available. Enable it at compilation."
[11:29] <jende> zorglu_: howdy
[11:29] <zorglu_> jende: hi
[11:29] <paulo> zorglu_: what else can i provide? no matter what site i go to i get unknown host error
[11:29] <knubbe> fdoving: however, i get picture and sound. its just an annoying popup with that error message.
[11:30] <fdoving> Jucato: you told me, doves are nice.  I'll have to go eat, bbl :)
[11:30] <jende> paulo: are you on a broadband connection? if so, is the route to your router correct?
[11:30] <zorglu_> paulo: do "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" and tell me if you got replies
[11:30] <Jucato> aw...
[11:30] <paulo> zorglu_: yes it replies
[11:30] <fdoving> knubbe: check your config for mp3 stuff. have to go eat. bbl.
[11:31] <zorglu_> paulo: ok so the internet connection is working
[11:31] <zorglu_> paulo: it is likely a dns issue
[11:31] <paulo> yes...
[11:31] <knubbe> fdoving: thanks for your help!
[11:31] <McCabe> i know how to add nfs shares using fstab.. but is there a gui or other recommended way to do it in kubuntu?
[11:31] <zorglu_> paulo: do "host www.google.com" and pastebin the result
[11:31] <jende> !ntfs
[11:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:31] <jende> !fuse
[11:31] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[11:32] <zorglu_> jende: he said nfs :) close tho :)
[11:32] <jende> zorglu_: errr
[11:32] <McCabe> yes, nfs, not smb..
[11:32] <zorglu_> jende: there is a factoid to it :)
[11:32] <jende> zorglu_: should read more carefully, though
[11:32] <paulo> zorglu_: ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[11:33] <jende> !nfs
[11:33] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[11:33] <zorglu_> paulo: ok now, paste bin the file /etc/resolv.conf and provide the url here
[11:33] <McCabe> jende: thanks, ill look there
[11:34] <zorglu_> q. why my infohash code is now buggy ? what did i changed ? :)
[11:35] <jende> cluless on that ;-)
[11:35] <Luke77> hello
[11:35] <paulo> zorglu_: there don't not appear to be a /etc/resolv.conf
[11:35] <Jucato> @_@
[11:35] <zorglu_> paulo: ?
[11:36] <paulo> zorglu_: i am really lost, i have no idea why it is doing this
[11:36] <zorglu_> paulo: if so, you have a real trouble :) :)
[11:36] <paulo> zorglu_: why me? arrrrrrrrrgh
[11:36] <Luke77> is there anybody that can help me to configure an irc program?
[11:37] <Jucato> paulo: have you if restarting/rebooting works?
[11:37] <zorglu_> paulo: another thing for improving the help you got, use cut/paste (via pastbin) rather than trying to parse the result yourself
[11:37] <zorglu_> paulo: "ls -l /etc/resolv.conf" what is the result of this ?
[11:37] <zorglu_> paulo: i would like the exact one :) aka the pasted one
[11:38] <paulo> zorglu_: -rw-r--r--  1 root root 0 2006-10-21 10:23 /etc/resolv.conf
[11:38] <zorglu_> paulo: see why cut/past is very important ? :)
[11:38] <paulo> can someone do me a favour and get me the phone number to www.peats.com?
[11:39] <zorglu_> paulo: you do have this file, ok now do a pastebin of it
[11:39] <paulo> zorglu_: pastebin?
[11:39] <zorglu_> !pastbin
[11:39] <zorglu_> !pastebin
[11:39] <jende> paulo: less /etc/resolv.conf and pastebin it
[11:39] <magicmike> jende: I'm okay up to here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27651/
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:39] <jende> !paste
[11:40] <paulo> zorglu_: the file is empty
[11:40] <Jucato> @_@
[11:40] <zorglu_>  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2006-10-21 10:23 /etc/resolv.conf
[11:40] <zorglu_> true i didnt noticed
[11:40] <Jucato> ouch... how can it be empty?
[11:40] <zorglu_> ok you got the location of the issue :)
[11:40] <zorglu_> well it is not supposed to be :)
[11:40] <paulo> zorglu_: if i knew that i would be doing well!
[11:40] <Jucato> will rebooting solve it?
[11:41] <zorglu_> $ cat /etc/resolv.conf
[11:41] <zorglu_> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:41] <zorglu_> this is mine
[11:41] <zorglu_> maybe
[11:41] <paulo> after the install i rebooted to change driver to vesa so that should have done it
[11:41] <zorglu_> Jucato: maybe
[11:41] <davide> jende sorry can i ask u a thing?
[11:41] <Jucato> I use openDNS, btw...
[11:41] <zorglu_> ok have to debug my pile of crap
[11:41] <zorglu_> paulo: i no more have time to help
[11:42] <Jucato> paulo: have you tried rebooting?
[11:42] <zorglu_> tips: the key is the empty resolv.conf
[11:42] <davide> how i can copy a file into the folder /usr/share/sane/gt68xx  ?
[11:42] <paulo> i will reboot now
[11:42] <zorglu_> it may be setup by the dhcp or directly setup
[11:42] <zorglu_> ok off
[11:42] <Jucato> oh there he rebooted :)
[11:42] <davide> because when i try to copy (manually)it doesn't permit me to copy
[11:43] <jende> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27652/ <- magicmike
[11:43] <jende> davide: ow do you copy?
[11:43] <jende> davide: how do you copy?
[11:43] <jan> help me! my kicker is hidden, how can i show it again?
[11:44] <davide> with "cut and paste"
[11:44] <davide> jende: with the simple way to copy
[11:44] <jende> davide: wont work as you have to be sudo to write in these directories
[11:44] <Jucato> jan: Alt+F2, type in "systemsettings" (no quotes, no space), then look under the Panel options to see if it's hidden or not
[11:45] <jan> or how can i access the kicker configuration without RMB on it
[11:45] <davide> jende:  so?what i have to type in these situations?
[11:45] <paulo> hey back
[11:45] <jan> Jucato, thank you
[11:45] <Jucato> paulo: how did it go?
[11:45] <jende> davide: man cp
[11:45] <jende> davide: man=manualpages
[11:45] <paulo> Jucato: there is now 3 entries in resolv.conf
[11:45] <Jucato> paulo: good
[11:46] <Jucato> have you tried browsing?
[11:46] <paulo> but in konqueror i get "save as" "open with firefox" "cancel"
[11:46] <Jucato> paulo: this is when you type in a URL?
[11:46] <paulo> when searching in google
[11:47] <Jucato> but you can go to other web pages?
[11:47] <jende> paulo: so, you could get to google?try another site/URL
[11:48] <huhmz> Hi guys, i just upgraded to edgy and now after boot i only get to console login prompt, whats up with that ya think?
[11:48] <paulo> Jucato: jende same problem with other sites
[11:48] <Jucato> paulo: ugh... I'm not really good with this...
[11:48] <Jucato> can anyone help paulo here?
[11:49] <paulo> its a konqueror config problem
[11:49] <Jucato> huhmz: do you have binary ATI or NVIDIA drivers installed?
[11:49] <jende> paulo: patebin the resolv.conf and don't parse it in here
[11:49] <paulo> jende: whats pastebin
[11:49] <huhmz> jucato: no
[11:49] <jende> !passte
[11:49] <jende> !paste
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about passte - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:50] <Linux_Galore_> #kbuntu-offtopic
[11:50] <jende> paulo: and don't forget to give us the URL, though
[11:50] <paulo> ok i did that
[11:50] <Jucato> Linux_Galore_: huh?
[11:50] <klerfayt> if I disable plugins globally in konqueror settings and then allow them for "www.youtube.com" konqueror won't show flash videos; why?
[11:50] <paulo> but i do not have a url
[11:51] <paulo> how on earth can i pastebin when i cannot use the browser??
[11:51] <Jucato> jende: err...
[11:51] <jende> paulo: errr...true
[11:51] <Jucato> @_@
[11:51] <paulo> this is annoying me... deeply
[11:52] <Jucato> paulo: but you are able to use the internet for anything else, I presume? (since you're chatting)
[11:52] <paulo> i feel like i am going mad
[11:52] <paulo> yes
[11:52] <Jucato> hm.. seems like a DNS problem then...
[11:52] <paulo> like i said it must be a konqueror config problem
[11:52] <Jucato> I have had that issue with my ISP
[11:52] <Jucato> paulo: can you "ing www.google.com"?
[11:52] <Jucato> paulo: can you "ping www.google.com"?
[11:52] <paulo> Jucato: yes i can
[11:53] <Jucato> ok, it might be a Konqueror issue... hehe...
[11:53] <jende> paulo: have you got the same probs with firefox?
[11:53] <paulo> Jucato: no i cannot ping now :P
[11:53] <Jucato> I thought you said you could :P
[11:53] <paulo> jende: i cannot install firefox
[11:53] <paulo> it is not in my sources.list
[11:53] <jende> paulo: why's that?
[11:54] <jende> !firefox
[11:54] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:54] <Jucato> err.. that is old...
[11:54] <jende> paulo: it is in your sources
[11:54] <jende> paulo: do that "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[11:55] <Jucato> paulo: all you need is to enable the the "main" repositories (if they're not enabled yet)
[11:55] <jende> Jucato: shouldn't they be enabled by default?
[11:55] <paulo> Reading package lists... Done
[11:55] <paulo> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:55] <paulo> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:55] <paulo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:55] <paulo> is only available from another source
[11:55] <paulo> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[11:55] <Jucato> jende: if you installed without an active/enabled internet connection, no
[11:56] <Jucato> besides, if he's having DNS problems, I don't think he'll be able to install anything at all
[11:56] <jende> Jucato: true...never installed without an active connection, though
[11:56] <Jucato> jende: I only installed with an internet connection once
[11:56] <Jucato> :)
[11:56] <Jucato> paulo: don't lose hope yet
[11:56] <jende> paulo: type less /etc/resolv.conf
[11:57] <paulo> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:57] <paulo> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:57] <paulo> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:57] <Jucato> if it helps, I once had this problem as well. All other internet services (IRC, IM, and Torrent) work well, except for HTTP (which includes installing through apt)
[11:57] <Jucato> I solved it by using the DNS from www.opendns.com
[11:57] <jende> paulo: your nameservers don't respond at all
[11:58] <Jucato> try to use this from openDNS: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:58] <Jucato> bye
[11:58] <jende> paulo: so your prob is a nameserver one
[11:59] <jende> paulo: do you know how to edit such files?
[11:59] <paulo> no
[11:59] <magicmike> jende: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27653/
[12:00] <paulo> look guys every time i click on of those likes it saves it in /var
[12:00] <paulo> i cannot use http
[12:00] <jende> paulo: press ALT+F2 and type in there kdesu kate /etc/resolv.conf then delte the nameservers in there and replace the deleted ones with ones given by Jucato
[12:00] <paulo> jende: but are they not from jucato's isp?
[12:01] <jende> paulo: no
[12:01] <jende> magicmike: you have a broadband connection, right?
[12:02] <paulo> ok that is now done
[12:02] <jende> magicmike: if so, can you ping your router? in a console type ping <ipofyourrouter>
[12:02] <jende> paulo: saved it?
[12:02] <paulo> yes
[12:03] <jende> paulo: close kate then
[12:03] <paulo> done
[12:03] <jende> paulo: do a sudo route on the console
[12:03] <paulo> jende: eh?
[12:04] <paulo> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[12:04] <paulo> <IP_ADDRESS>    *               <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth0
[12:04] <paulo> default         <IP_ADDRESS>    <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[12:04] <paulo> i'm going to do a fresh install again
[12:04] <jende> paulo: that looks alright; as long as the Ip for Dest/GW are correct
[12:05] <jende> paulo: don't give up
[12:05] <magicmike> Network is unreachable.
[12:05] <paulo> ok i have a major headache over this
[12:05] <jende> paulo: reboot the machine and after you rebooted do again a less /etc/resolv.conf
[12:05] <jende> magicmike: so, your internal net doesn't work either
[12:07] <jende> magicmike: I just read on a german site, that one had to rebuilt his acx almost every day and he did get unfortunately the same errors as you get
[12:07] <jende> magicmike: that acx thingy seems to be damn buggy
[12:08] <magicmike> Well, I can screw this wireless setup because I have a wired ethernet also but that doesn't show up either.
[12:08] <magicmike> Should I shutdown, pop the card out and see what gives?
[12:08] <jende> magicmike: yes, please
[12:09] <magicmike> Stay tuned. LOL
[12:09] <jende> magicmike: surrrrre
[12:12] <birge> hi all
[12:14] <jende> birge: howdy
[12:15] <birge> try to learn about linux
[12:15] <birge> i never used it before
[12:16] <jende> birge: good, keep learning
[12:19] <birge> i will
[12:19] <huhmz> neither gdm nor kdm nor startx can start my xserver, i don't know what to do
[12:20] <jende> huhmz: reconfiguer your X
[12:20] <magicmike> jende: Okay. I'm using a wired network card. NE2000 Compatible ISAPNP Ethernet Adapter How to we configure this?
[12:20] <jende> magicmike: sudo modprobe ne2000
[12:20] <huhmz> jende: doesn't work
[12:21] <huhmz> it is some bug with the upgrade to edgy
[12:21] <jende> huhmz: there is no bug known re X
[12:21] <jende> huhmz: unless you have installed beryl
[12:22] <magicmike> Not found. LOL
[12:22] <huhmz> i have not
[12:22] <magicmike> II figured as much.
[12:23] <jende> huhmz: basically, I have 3 boxes here running od edgy and no probs at all. How did you upgrade?using apt? any errors;like unmet dependencies?
[12:23] <huhmz> bug 59242 seems to be related
[12:24] <huhmz> i did apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:24] <jende> huhmz: and apt-get update before?
[12:24] <huhmz> yes
[12:24] <jende> huhmz: and no apt-get update before?
[12:24] <huhmz> apt-get update before always
[12:24] <jende> huhmz: pastebin your sources
[12:24] <huhmz> cant get to pastebin atm, im in console
[12:25] <jende> magicmike: sudo find /etc/ -name ne2000
[12:25] <huhmz> can i query you?
[12:25] <jende> huhmz: have to change therefor quickly the ID ;)
[12:26] <huhmz> crap, something didnt work
[12:26] <jende_> huhmz: now you can
[12:26] <magicmike> Jende: returned to prompt
[12:27] <jende_> magicmike: just the prompt?
[12:27] <magicmike> Yup
[12:31] <magicmike> Is there a place that tells you what hardware actually is recognized/works with Linux?
[12:31] <jende_> magicmike: yes there is
[12:32] <magicmike> It just seems like you spend so much time trying to get this stuff to work, you can't enjoy your computer.
[12:32] <flaccid> thats linux for ya
[12:34] <huhmz> jende_: i think there might be a problem that i didn't have the ubuntu-base package installed when i upgraded, did you see that bug i posted?
[12:35] <Danhul> hi there
[12:35] <jende_> magicmike: modprobe ne
[12:35] <jende_> huhmz: nope, havent sees your posting as yet
[12:35] <Danhul> since I updated edgy yesterday sudo doesn't work anymore - the /etc/sudoers is empty. What can I do?
[12:35] <jende_> flaccid: howdy
[12:35] <huhmz> jende_bug 59242
[12:36] <paulo> back
[12:36] <paulo> after fresh install and am installing firefix
[12:36] <paulo> *firefox
[12:37] <jende_> paulo: so your prob seems to be soolved, though
[12:38] <paulo> through a fresh install, for a second time!
[12:38] <paulo> jende_: thanks you for your help anyway!
[12:38] <jende_> huhmz: would you mind posting me quickly the whole URL to your Bug still can't find iit
[12:39] <jende_> magicmike: what tells you a modprobe ne ?
[12:39] <magicmike> Error inserting 8390 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/839 0.ko): Operation not permitted Fatal:Error inserting NE (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/ne.ko}: Operation not permitted
[12:40] <huhmz> jende_: launchpad.net/bugs/59242
[12:40] <jende_> magicmike: what tells you asudo modprobe ne ?
[12:41] <magicmike> asudo says command not found. Sudo reurns me to the prompt.
[12:43] <lipe_pe> I got an error, that says "Su returned an error" when I am going to access as root... What should I do, please ?!?!
[12:44] <jende_> magicmike: what tells you a 'sudo modprobe ne' ?
[12:44] <Jucato> jende_: ping?
[12:45] <jende_> huhmz: have you made since your postings any updates/upgrades, maybe yesterday to rc1?
[12:45] <jende_> Jucato: pong!
[12:45] <Jucato> jende_: sorry for running off so suddenly...
[12:45] <lipe_pe> I got an error, that says "Su returned an error" when I am going to access as root... What should I do, please ?!?!
[12:45] <Jucato> everyone was calling me for dinner... :(
[12:45] <jende_> Jucato: fair enough
[12:45] <huhmz> jende_: i made the upgrade last night, didnt boot until this morning, i have done more dist-upgrade since
[12:46] <Jucato> was paulo's problem solved?
[12:46] <jende_> lipe_pe: su is not the appropriate cmd to become root
[12:46] <jende_> huhmz: hmmm...???
[12:47] <jende_> Jucato: he gave up and reinstalled
[12:47] <Jucato> oh... did he try the DNS I gave?
[12:47] <jende_> Jucato: nope
[12:47] <Jucato> oh... that's not good...
[12:47] <lipe_pe> jende_: ok, but when i click to became administrator in somewhere, or when i'm opening adept, for example, it apears it, and do not load the application ...
[12:47] <Jucato> coz I almost had the same problem as his. and opendns solved it for me. it's an ISP issue I think...
[12:48] <jende_> Jucato: it would have helped as all his NS werde dead anyway, so....
[12:49] <Jucato> I'd say that it's his ISP then. specially if it behaves the same way in XP
[12:49] <jende_> lipe_pe: if you open adept, which I hate personally hate to use, you'll be asked to enter the password
[12:49] <jende_> lipe_pe: right? what message do you get once you entered your password
[12:49] <Jucato> lol
[12:50] <Jucato> love that side comment :)
[12:50] <jende_> Jucato: i hate adept it's in my opinion as useless as yast and all that crap.
[12:51] <Jucato> well, it's not 100% useless... :P
[12:51] <Jucato> it works sometimes hehehe
[12:51] <lipe_pe> jende_: i can't enter my pass... i just apears it ...
[12:51] <jende_> Jucato: but apt and aptitude and dpkg works always
[12:51] <jende_> lipe_pe: whats your native language?
[12:52] <jende_> magicmike: ???
[12:52] <Jucato> jende_: yes. but some people would prefer to use a GUI app if possible. (There's also a "GUI" alternative to dpkg, btw)
[12:53] <lipe_pe> jende_: portuguese
[12:53] <jende_> !po
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <Jucato> !pt
[12:53] <jende_> !portuguese
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about portuguese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:53] <Jucato> :P
[12:53] <jende_> Jucato: *ggg*
[12:54] <lipe_pe> jende_: if i delete the root user, how can i add it again ... ?!
[12:54] <Jucato> lipe_pe: there shouldn't be a root user by default
[12:56] <jende_> magicmike: where are you?
[12:56] <lipe_pe> Jucato: i just deluser root ... and now i cant use "sudo" ... :p
[12:56] <micra> Hi, I have been messing around with my root-user, and i think that i have changed the password. Somehow i cannot enter Adept, and i get the following message when I enter my password: "Conversation with su failed", how do i fix this?
[12:57] <magicmike> Yea, I'm here. I'm going to go try another Linux version and see how I make out. Maybe Mandriva or Suse.
[12:57] <Jucato> oh here we go again...
[12:57] <arejaytee> google should buy ubuntu!
[12:58] <magicmike> Just research them now.
[12:58] <jende_> magicmike: neither mandriva nor SuSE I would recommend
[12:58] <magicmike> researching I mean.
[12:58] <Jucato> I find it *amusing* that 2 people having the same problems because of the same reason :P
[12:58] <arejaytee> they didnt have the computer turned on?
[12:58] <Jucato> arejaytee: hehe funny :P
[12:59] <jende_> magicmike: what gave you a sudo modprobe ne, though
[12:59] <magicmike> Well, this seems to work fine until you update. Then crash.....
[12:59] <magicmike> Back to the prompt
[12:59] <paulo> anyone here have ssh running on port 443?
[12:59] <arejaytee> gubuntu!!!!
[12:59] <arejaytee> rofl
[01:00] <bmo_> why have ssh running on 443?
[01:00] <jende_> magicmike: then look up if the module got loaded using lsmod
[01:00] <martin__> ssh is 22
[01:00] <paulo> to access from work as 22 is blocked
[01:00] <Jucato> arejaytee: correctionl. Goobuntu :)
[01:00] <arejaytee> haha nice
[01:00] <bmo_> to keep it out of the bots
[01:01] <Jucato> arejaytee: actually they are using customized versions of Kubuntu (or Ubuntu) in house. afaik
[01:01] <jende_> bmo_: hehehe
[01:01] <arejaytee> ive heard the before too somewhere
[01:01] <paulo> bmo_: but do you need to change iptables?
[01:01] <arejaytee> the=that
[01:01] <bmo_> no
[01:01] <magicmike> I see an ne  7620 used by 0 listing
[01:01] <bmo_> you edit the config file
[01:01] <paulo> yeah sshd_config
[01:01] <Jucato> jende_: I have to go again
[01:01] <magicmike> 7620 being the size
[01:01] <Jucato> so suddenly...
[01:02] <jende_> Jucato: see ya later and take care
[01:02] <bmo_> edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[01:02] <klerfayt> how to create symlink of folder /x in /y ?
[01:02] <bmo_> change the line "Port 22" to whatever number strikes your fancy
[01:02] <jende_> magicmike: what gives you a ifconfig?is there a device eth0?
[01:03] <paulo> over 1024
[01:03] <intelikey> 479
[01:03] <intelikey> :)
[01:03] <intelikey> 6667   lol
[01:03] <jende_> intelikey: howdy
[01:03] <intelikey> jende_ :)
[01:04] <intelikey> hey who knows something about dosemu ?
[01:04] <jende_> nnot me
[01:04] <sacha_> ln -s /y /x  klerfayt
[01:04] <bmo_> what's to know?  you type it and you use emulated dos
[01:04] <B-Minus> hello all
[01:04] <intelikey> Sorry, there is no operating system.
[01:04] <intelikey> Please try to install FreeDOS from dosemu-freedos.
[01:05] <bmo_> oh
[01:05] <bmo_> well
[01:05] <B-Minus> what repositeries shall i add to my sources.list for getting kde 3.5.5 ?
[01:05] <flaccid> install the package dosemu-freedos
[01:05] <flaccid> i found dosbox better :)
[01:05] <intelikey> bmo_ where is it looking for the os
[01:05] <intelikey> flaccid i don't want freedos  i have dos.
[01:06] <flaccid> oh sorry
[01:06] <flaccid> i think you change it in the .conf then
[01:06] <magicmike> It gives me my inet address and same info as when working on the wireless. I pinged the inet address and it is continually pinging.How do I stop the pinging?
[01:07] <intelikey> i failed to find it.    i thought it just had a symlink in ~/.dosemu/   but i don't see one.
[01:07] <flaccid> magicmike: ctrl+c
[01:07] <intelikey> flaccid you have a working dosemu ?
[01:07] <magicmike> Okay.
[01:07] <flaccid> intelikey: yeah with freedos but
[01:07] <bmo_> http://www.drdos.net/download.htm
[01:07] <intelikey> would you check ~/.dosemu/ for a symlink please ?
[01:08] <flaccid> there is no symlink
[01:08] <jende_> magicmike: did it look like this 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.51 ms ?
[01:08] <intelikey> not in run/ or anywhere ?????
[01:08] <flaccid> nope
[01:08] <magicmike> No the inet address was <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:08] <intelikey> well they've totally messed it up i guess..
[01:09] <jende_> magicmike: so, you said ping without a destination, I guess
[01:09] <intelikey> used to be one.     hehhe it used to run a config script the first run also, which let you specify path to dos
[01:09] <jende_> magicmike: however, lets see if we can configure eth0
[01:10] <magicmike> <IP_ADDRESS> ping statistics 183 packets transmitted, 183 received , 0% loss, time182018ms
[01:10] <jende_> magicmike: sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:10] <jende_> magicmike: whats the result?
[01:11] <Ayabara> hi guys. I'm installing kubuntu in a dual boot system today. I have 16GB free. How should I split it between swap, root and home? I have 1GB ram, and I will not be storing any big files (music,video) in my home directory.
[01:13] <magicmike> Well, the net address that shows as my domain name servers returns no Reuslt is ping <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[01:13] <intelikey> bmo_ ?
[01:13] <jende_> magicmike: sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:14] <magicmike> Sorry my domain name server continually pings the one you gave me gives those results.
[01:14] <bmo_> intelikey, I looked to install dosemu and it's not there
[01:14] <bmo_> only dosbox
[01:14] <jende_> magicmike: or sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:14] <deadsoul_> How to set double click to select open a file intead of one click?
[01:14] <jende_> magicmike: stop the ping
[01:14] <deadsoul_> How to set double click to open a file intead of one click?*
[01:14] <intelikey> bmo_ eft ?
[01:14] <bmo_> no, dapper
[01:14] <intelikey> yeah it's there.  i installed it.
[01:15] <intelikey> !info dosemu
[01:15] <ubotu> dosemu: The Linux DOS Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2.2-3build1 (dapper), package size 877 kB, installed size 2024 kB
[01:15] <magicmike> Returns to prompt
[01:15] <jende_> magicmike: good
[01:15] <magicmike> If you say so.
[01:16] <bmo_> Package dosemu is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:16] <intelikey> bmo_ see ubotu ^
[01:16] <jende_> magicmike: now, we've got to tell your ne200 where the router is. sudo route add default gw <ipofyourrouter>
[01:17] <deadsoul_> How to set double click to open a file intead of one click?
[01:17] <intelikey> deadsoul_ kcontrol
[01:17] <bmo_> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[01:17] <bmo_> I _have_ multiverse
[01:17] <jende_> !paste
[01:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:18] <deadsoul_> Thanks a lot intelikey
[01:18] <intelikey> bmo_ me and flaccid had no trubble apt getting it....
[01:19] <intelikey> deadsoul_ it's in there.  i don't recall where in there but i know it's in there.
[01:19] <magicmike> I get network is unreachable.
[01:19] <prophit> gm world
[01:19] <jende_> magicmike: doing what? gave you network is unreachable?
[01:19] <deadsoul_> Yeah intelikey its in mouse section. I did it. Thanks a lot
[01:19] <bmo_> I have dapper-updates multiverse, dapper-backports multiverse, dapper multiverse, and the source repositories and the dapper-security multiverse.  if I don't have a multiverse, it doesn't exist. :-P
[01:20] <arejaytee> should i upgrade to edgy through dist-upgrade?
[01:20] <magicmike> sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:20] <intelikey> bmo_ :)
[01:21] <intelikey> apt-cache search dosemu
[01:21] <intelikey> dosemu - The Linux DOS Emulator
[01:21] <intelikey> dosemu-freedos - FreeDOS package for DOSEMU
[01:21] <intelikey> xfonts-dosemu - VGA font for the DOS Emulator
[01:22] <bmo_> apt-cache search dosemu
[01:22] <bmo_> console-cyrillic - Better Cyrillic support for Linux console
[01:22] <bmo_> xfonts-terminus-dos - Fixed-width fonts for DOS encodings
[01:22] <bmo_> xfonts-dosemu - VGA font for the DOS Emulator
[01:23] <jende_> magicmike: I just had a call from a client, will you be here in an hour?
[01:23] <magicmike> I don't know. Maybe. This Linux stuff is giving me a headache.
[01:24] <intelikey> magicmike you can always ask in #ubuntu   if no one in here can help you.
[01:24] <bmo_> it is giving me a headache right about now, but dosbox works flawlessly, more or less. hahahahahaha
[01:24] <jende_> magicmike: when I'm back I'll be fixing your ne2000
[01:24] <magicmike> I'm going to install another version of Linux and see what results I get. MAybe it'll like my hardware better.
[01:24] <intelikey> bmo_ not from a console it don't   dosbox
[01:24] <intelikey> Exit to error: Can't init SDL No available video device
[01:24] <magicmike> Thanks, jende.
[01:24] <intelikey> bmo_ dosbox depends on X
[01:24] <lunitik> magicmike: if Ubuntu doesn't like your hardware... no other distro will
[01:25] <magicmike> Well, sounds like I'm stuff with Billionaire Bill then.
[01:25] <lunitik> magicmike: what hardware issues are you having? I just got here... sorry
[01:26] <bmo_> intelikey, what dapper mirror do you use?
[01:26] <intelikey> venella
[01:26] <magicmike> Well, things work fine until I do the damn updates. Then both my networking options are knocked out.
[01:26] <magicmike> I removed my wireless and went to a wired card and still the devices can't be found.
[01:27] <magicmike> That's it in a nutshell.
[01:27] <klerfayt> how to associate "rtsp" protocol in firefox with vlc? I got w32codecs and firefox-vlc-plugin installed allready
[01:27] <bmo_> intelikey: venella.ubuntu.com?
[01:27] <bmo_> oh, wait
[01:27] <intelikey> bmo_ i'll post my sources.list for you.
[01:27] <bmo_> I think I know why
[01:27] <lunitik> magicmike: so you updated kernel, without updating ndiswrapper and expected things to still work?
[01:27] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[01:27] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[01:27] <intelikey> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[01:27] <bmo_> intelekey: 32 or 64 bit?
[01:27] <intelikey> that's the whole file.
[01:27] <magicmike> I'm using I did as instructed.
[01:27] <lunitik> magicmike: what wired NIC are you using?
[01:28] <intelikey> 32     yeah you have 64   hah
[01:28] <magicmike> Sorry I did as instructed.
[01:28] <bmo_> that's why
[01:28] <bmo_> no dosemu for me
[01:28] <magicmike> I'm now using NE2000 compat card.
[01:29] <intelikey> bmo_ heh according to the manpage on it dosemu doesn't fully support 32 bit yet   lol
[01:29] <jende_> lunitik: a ne2000 isapnp
[01:29] <magicmike> Yup
[01:29] <jende_> see ya all
[01:29] <magicmike> Take it easy.
[01:29] <intelikey> c ya
[01:29] <jende_> have to run
[01:29] <micra> Hi, i know my root password, but when i try to get root-access it doesnt work.
[01:29] <intelikey> c++ ya
[01:29] <bmo_> most cards are ne2000 compat.  I have set up many windows machines by just telling them that the driver is ne1000/ne2000.  not surprised that the trick works in linux
[01:30] <insparedes> !es
[01:30] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:30] <intelikey> micra when did you set a "root" password ?
[01:30] <intelikey> !root
[01:30] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:31] <lunitik> magicmike: sorry for the delay... 'lspci | grep Ethernet' ... what does this return?
[01:31] <bmo_> oh, I've had the same problem that Micra has, and it was a weird fix
[01:32] <intelikey> bmo_ root password   or borked sudo  ?
[01:32] <bmo_> suddenly sudo quit working
[01:32] <lunitik> magicmike: should return two values... your wireless and wired NIC (unless you removed one card)
[01:32] <intelikey> yeah sudo != root password
[01:32] <bmo_> baking /etc/hosts bakes PAM
[01:33] <lunitik> magicmike: ISA is a pita, its old technology, so no one really pays attention to it anymore
[01:33] <intelikey> no only sudo
[01:33] <magicmike> I removed the wireless.
[01:33] <micra> intelikey: i was messing around with the root user and i think i changed the password. It shows the message "converstion with su failed", when i try to enter adept or administrator mode
[01:33] <lunitik> magicmike: ok... what does the command return?
[01:34] <intelikey> micra do this in a konsole      sudo echo working!
[01:34] <magicmike> I can shut down and put it back in.  I'm getting command not found so let me double check my typing.
[01:34] <lunitik> magicmike: copy and paste from konsole is fine... just show me the result of the command
[01:34] <bmo_> sudo passwd
[01:34] <bmo_> set new password
[01:35] <lunitik> magicmike: you have a typo... lspci is definitely a command  :)
[01:35] <paul__> when i select to share a folder the options are grayed out? how do I edit them?
[01:35] <lunitik> as is grep
[01:35] <intelikey> bmo_ lets see if sudo is working first shall we
[01:35] <micra> Nothing happens when i try to write sudo, it seems like it is "locked"?
[01:36] <intelikey> micra ok.   do this     groups | grep admin
[01:36] <magicmike> command not found.
[01:36] <micra> It locks whenever i write my root-password (or what i think it is), and i have to restart the computer before it gets unlocked
[01:37] <magicmike> with the ' included?
[01:37] <intelikey> micra do you know the differance in a root password and using sudo ?
[01:37] <micra> intelikey: in console or?
[01:37] <micra> intelikey: no? im newb :-)
[01:37] <insparedes> como instalar wine en kubuntu?
[01:37] <intelikey> that's what i thought.
[01:38] <intelikey> now micra yes in konsole
[01:38] <paul__> is samba installed by default?
[01:38] <intelikey> see if you are in the admin group
[01:38] <intelikey> paul__ no
[01:38] <intelikey> !samba
[01:38] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:38] <paul__> oh no wonder :/
[01:38] <lunitik> magicmike: no... just lspci | grep Ethernet ... copy and paste
[01:38] <magicmike> IT returns to the prompt. IT only works without the ' symbols removed. Being a newb some commands use that symbol.
[01:39] <micra> intelikey it shows this: micra adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scann
[01:39] <intelikey> hmmm ok
[01:39] <magicmike> I can't copy and paste. I have no internet access on that computer and I'm going from another machine to the one that has the linux on it.
[01:39] <intelikey> micra do this in the konsole     cat /etc/sudoers
[01:40] <intelikey> and see if it has a line starting with adm
[01:40] <micra> intelikey: cat: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[01:40] <intelikey> ok
[01:41] <flaccid> anyone know of a list of packages to remove/things to do to cut down a kubuntu desktop install to a server install
[01:41] <intelikey> micra i'm thinking you will have to add your self to  the  "admin"   group.        someone that uses sudo can confirm or refute that.
[01:41] <ironcladlou> My Belkin Wireless G PCMCIA card appears in lspci and during Kubuntu 6.11rc install, but is not visible to ifconfig, iwconfig, the network control panel, or KNetworkManager. It worked fine in 6.06. Any ideas?
[01:42] <intelikey> flaccid cat sudoers for me and see if they still use group "admin"  ?
[01:42] <ironcladlou> 6.10rc, rather
[01:42] <magicmike> lunatik: You still with me?
[01:42] <Electrolyte> Hmmmm, Iceweasel isn't bad.
[01:42] <flaccid> intelikey: aint finished install yet
[01:43] <bmo_> they do, intelikey %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[01:43] <flaccid> huh
[01:43] <flaccid> this is not for me
[01:43] <intelikey> !wifi > ironcladlou
[01:43] <flaccid> oh
[01:43] <intelikey> bmo_ ty
[01:43] <magicmike> ironcladlou: I've been having the same prob.
[01:43] <intelikey> flaccid ty anyway.
[01:43] <magicmike> !wifi
[01:43] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:43] <bmo_> but, intelikey, if he set a root password, even if he types sudo, his own password is no good, he has to type the (now unknown) root password
[01:44] <ironcladlou> magicmike: with the same card?
[01:44] <bmo_> even if he is in the admin group
[01:44] <intelikey> ok micra  you need to boot to recovery mode and   or use a live cd   to fix your problem.      you have to be in the admin group.
[01:44] <ironcladlou> intelikey: I know where the wifi docs are. This seems like some sort of bug.
[01:44] <paul__> hmm I installed Samba and still the share options are grayed out
[01:44] <magicmike> Mine is a US Robotics or Tex Inst acx 100 chipset.
[01:44] <intelikey> ironcladlou ok.
[01:45] <micra> intelikey: how do I add myself to the admin group from the recovery console?
[01:45] <intelikey> micra you can edit /etc/group  and  add your user name to the "admin"   line.
[01:45] <ironcladlou> magicmike: i have a forum topic going with no resolution yet at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1643793
[01:45] <magicmike> I did all that stuff that is on the wifidocs site. It's about rebuilding your drivers. I was halfway through when it wouldn't complete because I needed internet access to download the make package.
[01:46] <bmo_> http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/How_do_I_reset_my_root_password%3F
[01:46] <intelikey> micra  nano is a command line text editor that is installed by default.
[01:46] <ironcladlou> magicmike: and yours worked fine in 6.06 also?
[01:46] <intelikey> bmo_ does that doc detail fixing sudo ?
[01:47] <ironcladlou> magicmike: one thing i haven't tried is installing without the card inserted
[01:47] <magicmike> it worked without a problem in 6.06. When I shut down after the updates, it wouldn't show any internet connection devices.
[01:47] <magicmike> If the cards not inserted how are you going to access the net?
[01:47] <micra> intelikey: i know what nano is, but what file schould i open whith it?
[01:48] <intelikey> micra nano /etc/group        will be the command.
[01:48] <magicmike> I unplugged, booted and shutdown. Replugged, booted and same result. Does not show.
[01:48] <ironcladlou> magicmike: ot
[01:48] <ironcladlou> oops
[01:48] <micra> intelikey: okay, what schould i do after that? Remember im newbie :-)
[01:49] <ironcladlou> magicmike: its a laptop. it has internal LAN and WLAN (WEP only though). i need the pcmcia card for WPA. i have it conected to the wired network at the moment
[01:49] <intelikey> look for admin:x:33:some,names,here        and add your name.
[01:49] <intelikey> the 33 is a guess could be any number.
[01:50] <intelikey> note the comma seperated list of names
[01:50] <intelikey> could be blank.  but you need in it.
[01:51] <micra> intelikey: it has to be through recovery konsole?
[01:51] <intelikey> micro you have to have write permission
[01:51] <intelikey> how are you going to get it ?
[01:51] <bmo_> !paste
[01:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:51] <magicmike> Got disconnected.
[01:52] <bmo_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27662/
[01:52] <micra> intelikey: i don't know? :) Through recovery konsole? :-)
[01:52] <bubu1uk> i have problem with ssh on kubuntu. when i use midnight commander it doesnt show properly. any1 knows how to solve this problem?
[01:53] <bmo_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27662/ (for micra and intelikey)
[01:53] <magicmike> Ironcladlou: Only thing I can suggest is don't update after 6.06. Let me know if you get your problem resolved.
[01:53] <intelikey> micro i know of three ways without really working over a hack  to secure root access to a box that you don't have a root password nor root jr. privilages.   1. a recovery console   2. a live cd    3. using init=/bin/sh  at the boot prompt.     notice #3 is not for the newbee.
[01:53] <ironcladlou> magicmike: not exactly the preferable answer :D
[01:54] <ironcladlou> magicmike: i am downloading ubuntu6.10rc right now to make sure it's something in the base distro and not kubuntu specific
[01:54] <magicmike> Yea, I know but I've gone through this about 3 times.
[01:54] <ironcladlou> magicmike: you tried ubuntu?
[01:55] <micra> intelikey: okay, ill use recovery console
[01:55] <magicmike> Same problem in both. I was using Ubuntu until yesterday when I installed Kubuntu.
[01:55] <intelikey> bmo_ nano and the sudoers file......  ;S
[01:56] <ironcladlou> crap
[01:56] <magicmike> Just gotta get lucky and find someone who knows how to resolve this problem.
[01:56] <magicmike> so far no luck.
[01:56] <intelikey> bmo_ i hope no one in here is giving that advice.    visudo   is the prefered way.
[01:56] <ironcladlou> what other channels have you asked in?
[01:57] <magicmike> Ubunt also.
[01:57] <magicmike> #ubuntu I meant.
[01:57] <simse> hey intelikey. this is micra from another com
[01:57] <intelikey> bmo_ visudo checks the syntax on exit.   nano wont.
[01:58] <simse> Im going into recovery console now
[01:58] <ironcladlou> magicmike:  have you asked this morning in there?
[01:58] <intelikey> simse yeah.
[01:58] <intelikey> k
[01:58] <bmo_> ah
[01:58] <bmo_> ok
[01:58] <ironcladlou> i'll go try anyway, just in case
[01:58] <intelikey> bmo_ also the sudoers file is not what is broke.  you just need in the group.
[01:58] <magicmike> I'm there now. Good luck.
[01:59] <bmo_> is it really 8am?
[01:59] <ulinskie> how can I get build essentials in kubuntu?
[01:59] <intelikey> new england time
[01:59] <klerfayt> what is the difference between "kvlc" and "qvlc" package?
[02:00] <ironcladlou> magicmike: i am referencing you as a "friend" in my plea for help :)
[02:00] <intelikey> read the info on them klerfayt
[02:00] <simse> Im in the etc/group now
[02:00] <simse> How do I add my self?
[02:00] <klerfayt> intelikey: oops - "The kvlc package has been discontinued"
[02:00] <intelikey> klerfayt in adept   or cli   apt-cache show <package-name>       for more info.
[02:01] <intelikey> klerfayt xvlc  ?
[02:01] <klerfayt> intelikey: that's why I didn't see difference (they are discontinued) I fought I will get nice interface with kvlc
[02:01] <bmo_> adm:x:4:bmo  <---my adm group.  I assume that micra put his username in the obvious place
[02:01] <ulinskie> how can I get build essentials in kubuntu?
[02:01] <simse> intelikey Im in the etc/group now
[02:02] <intelikey> oooops  i mean  wxvlc
[02:02] <bmo_> admin:x:111:bmo
[02:02] <intelikey> yep.   if bmo    is the user name that you want to be root jr.
[02:02] <simse> intelikey it says "root:x:0:" and further down "adm:x:4:micra"
[02:03] <intelikey> simse "admin"
[02:03] <simse> intelikey there is now admin, only adm ???
[02:03] <binks> fdoving thanks i got the access point working :)
[02:04] <bmo_> my username is in adm, dialout (haha) cdrom, floppy, audio, dip, video, plugdev, lpadmin, scanner, myself, and admin
[02:04] <intelikey> well add it.     admin:x:111:micra
[02:04] <simse> allr right then
[02:04] <zarrelli> hi
[02:04] <bmo_> alo
[02:05] <simse> It is done
[02:05] <intelikey> bmo_ i did a box that way one time.    put me in all groups... :)
[02:05] <simse> and saved!
[02:05] <epalissad> I can't open folders or trash-bin it says: KDEInit could not launch '/home/myuser. can someone help me, I haven't found anything on google.
[02:05] <simse> should it work now?
[02:05] <bmo_> try it, simse
[02:05] <intelikey> should work now.
[02:05] <intelikey> simse you can issue a command to test it.
[02:05] <simse> bmo_ ok Im rebooting now
[02:05] <bmo_> wait
[02:05] <intelikey> simse you can issue a command to test it.
[02:06] <bmo_> don't reboot, just do it
[02:06] <simse> it is allready rebooting
[02:06] <intelikey> simse you can issue a command to test it.
[02:06] <intelikey> :)
[02:06] <simse> I heard you :-)
[02:06] <intelikey> but rebooting don't hurt, i guess....
[02:06] <simse> great
[02:06] <bmo_> sudo echo IT LIVES!! IT LIVES!!
[02:07] <intelikey> *NOTICE* this is not tht M$ reboot opperating system.
[02:07] <simse> what?
[02:08] <intelikey> we just change runlevels,  we don't reboot.
[02:08] <bmo_> simse: unlike windows, you dont' have to reboot linux every time you make a change
[02:08] <bmo_> really, the only time to reboot is power failure or a new kernel. heh.
[02:08] <simse> bmo_ intelikey IT MOTCHERFUCKINGWORK!
[02:08] <JosefK> although, interestingly, reboot _is_ a runlevel
[02:08] <simse> WORKS!
[02:09] <bmo_> MOTCHER?
[02:09] <simse> THANKS GUYS!
[02:09] <klerfayt> bmo_: I think you don't have to reboot windows either
[02:09] <simse> THANKS GUYS!
[02:09] <bmo_> what'ss a motcher?
[02:09] <bmo_> heh
[02:09] <intelikey> !language
[02:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:09] <simse> thank you
[02:09] <intelikey> you welcome
[02:09] <simse> I love u
[02:09] <intelikey> you'll get over it.
[02:09] <bmo_> haha
[02:10] <klerfayt> !stereotype
[02:10] <simse> haha
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stereotype - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <VincentMX> does kubuntu take use of my new 5.1 Dolby Surround set?
[02:10] <bmo_> !how to win the war on drugs, terrorism, and democrats
[02:10] <intelikey> !spelling
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how to win the war on drugs, terrorism, and democrats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spelling - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <intelikey> klerfayt that ^ is the problem
[02:12] <intelikey> veni vidi clicky
[02:13] <ironcladlou> magicmike: did you see? it solved the problem
[02:15] <Putero> hi, somebody know a similar program to SurMix2 for my soundblaster sound card? because i have a Audigy2 with proffesional sound for work, and under linux this card sound like a simple card integrated on mother board
[02:33] <JohnFlux> !nvidia
[02:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:33] <JohnFlux> ! nvidia
[02:33] <JohnFlux> % nvidia
[02:33] <zorglu_> q. i got a dapper on 2.6.15-26-386, and it just trashed (aka disk active all the time and no more answering ping), i rebooted and /var/log/message is full of oom-killer, is there a way to determine the source of this ?
[02:35] <JohnFlux> Errhttp://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages
[02:35] <JohnFlux>   Bad header line [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[02:35] <JohnFlux> i keep getting this sort of error message
[02:35] <JohnFlux> when I do apt-get update
[02:35] <JohnFlux> anyone know why?
[02:36] <zorglu_> seems like a issue with the server
[02:36] <JohnFlux> anyone know  a good mirror I can use from the uk?
[02:37] <fdoving> JohnFlux: try se. it is usally fast from everywhere.
[02:37] <zorglu_> fr.archive.ubuntu.com seems to works
[02:38] <zorglu_> uk.archive.ubuntu.com is the same as archive.ubuntu.com
[02:38] <fdoving> uk is archive
[02:39] <onkeltuca> hi folks!
[02:40] <onkeltuca> i am tryinng to install acpi drivers for my notebook (acer aspire 5020)
[02:40] <onkeltuca> i installed all the linux headers etc...
[02:40] <onkeltuca> but the "make" doesnt work
[02:44] <onkeltuca> hi ho....does any body read?
[02:45] <onkeltuca> anybody there?
[02:45] <Tm_T> onkeltuca: No we don't read. ;)
[02:45] <onkeltuca> hehe
[02:45] <onkeltuca> have some trouble with my laptop...
[02:46] <onkeltuca> :)
[02:46] <onkeltuca> does anybody now hoe to install acpi drvier correctly
[02:47] <flaccid> how can i do an apt-get remove and ignore packages that are not installed
[02:47] <onkeltuca> install them before removal
[02:47] <flaccid> eg sudo apt-get remove telnet ivman <--- ivman not installed, so ignore
[02:48] <flaccid> onkeltuca: i'm looking for an ignore switch
[02:48] <onkeltuca> kk
[02:48] <abattoir> onkeltuca:
[02:48] <zorglu_> flaccid: naively why do you add it if you want to ignore it ?
[02:48] <abattoir> onkeltuca: what doesn't work?
[02:48] <abattoir> onkeltuca: i have a similar laptop, acpi works fine here
[02:49] <flaccid> because i am removing kubuntu-desktop packages
[02:50] <JohnFlux> flaccid: for f in telnet ivman; do sudo apt-get remove $f; done
[02:50] <JohnFlux> ;-)
[02:50] <onkeltuca> i downloaded some acer
[02:50] <onkeltuca> acpi driver...
[02:50] <zorglu_> JohnFlux put a smiley but i would do the same as i suggest
[02:50] <onkeltuca> #read the f m
[02:50] <onkeltuca> installed sources copmilers etc..
[02:51] <onkeltuca> but the makefile doesnt work
[02:51] <cyberquiet> I got a couple of problems upgrading to kde 3.5.5...
[02:51] <abattoir> onkeltuca: mmm, you still haven't answered my question... why do you need to compile one when there is a binary? do you need to get something working? if so what?
[02:52] <onkeltuca> where do i get the binary
[02:53] <alain> can anyone explain me why Bug #30207 is so difficult to fix   - for me it seems to be an (auto) configuration problem
[02:55] <zorglu_> alain: url ?
[02:55] <onkeltuca> abattoir: where do i get the binary
[02:55] <abattoir> onkeltuca: it should already be installed... for the last time, why are you looking for it?
[02:55] <magicmike> Is there a way to extract the linux-restricted-modules or linux-generic from the cd and place it somewhere that the install program can find it? I'm trying to get the system to recognize and install my  networking.
[02:56] <alain> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/30207
[02:56] <abattoir> magicmike: yup, look under the pool dir.(iirc) in the cd
[02:56] <abattoir> magicmike: you have the dapper live cd?
[02:57] <magicmike> Kubuntu Version 6.06 LTS
[02:57] <onkeltuca> abattoir: well. actually i cant get my wireless card get working and i have no opengl
[02:57] <abattoir> onkeltuca: which card?
[02:57] <abattoir> onkeltuca: broadcom?
[02:57] <onkeltuca> abattoir: yes
[02:58] <abattoir> !wireless
[02:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:58] <onkeltuca> abttoir: i tried ndiswrapper
[02:58] <abattoir> onkeltuca: and...?
[02:58] <onkeltuca> but the problem is that the card is deactivated
[02:58] <magicmike> What's the command for ndiswrapper?
[02:58] <onkeltuca> it has no power
[02:58] <onkeltuca> new acpidriver should fix this
[03:00] <cyberquiet> what is the most appropriate way to report a problem to the packager(s) of kde for kubuntu? launchpad?
[03:00] <onkeltuca> abattoir: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Acer5021WLMi_Amd64
[03:00] <klerfayt> is it possible that somewhere is repo with latest&greatest nvidia-glx package?
[03:00] <abattoir> cyberquiet: a bug?
[03:00] <abattoir> !bug
[03:00] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:01] <zorglu_> alain: well it is at least 6month old and has been subject to quite a lot of work, so it doesnt seems that trivial to fix. if you got the fix, i suggest you to contact the developers or even produce the patch
[03:01] <cyberquiet> I'm not sure if its a bug
[03:02] <zorglu_> cyberquiet: talks to packagers on #ubuntu-motu to see what they think
[03:02] <cyberquiet> thanks zorglu_
[03:03] <paul__> I have installed samb but when I right click asnd selct share the options are grayed out, how do I enable those options?
[03:04] <abattoir> onkeltuca: those instructions seem to be for breezy... are you using breezy?
[03:04] <onkeltuca> abattoir: no..dapper
[03:05] <onkeltuca> but shouldnt it work?
[03:05] <abattoir> onkeltuca: i don't think you need those if you are in dapper...
[03:05] <wily> i've a problem launching kismet
[03:05] <wily> anyone can help me?
[03:05] <wily> Failed to set up UI server: TcpServer bind() failed: Address already in use
[03:05] <wily> this is my error
[03:05] <abattoir> onkeltuca: i have a similar laptop, and everything works fine out of the box...
[03:06] <onkeltuca> hmm
[03:06] <paul__> hmm did u put your card in the source section of  kismet.conf ?
[03:06] <wily> yes of course
[03:06] <zorglu_> wily, this mean another apps is using the same address/port
[03:06] <onkeltuca> abattoir: which one do u have? and which distri do u use?
[03:06] <abattoir> onkeltuca: have you had a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29 ?
[03:06] <wily> doh?!?
[03:06] <wily> what application?
[03:06] <abattoir> onkeltuca: Aspire 5002, i'm on edgy now, but i've had it work in dapper
[03:07] <abattoir> onkeltuca: if you want to use ndiswrapper, then ignore the instructions for bcm43xx
[03:07] <paul__> yah I get same error it seems kismet fails to release tjhe process
[03:07] <zorglu_> wily: find out the address/port kismet try to bind (via config file or strace), then do a netstat -ntlap to get the address/port and the apps listening on it
[03:08] <onkeltuca> abattoir: ..ok... i ll try that... thx a lot so far...
[03:08] <wily> zorglu_:
[03:08] <wily> state listen
[03:08] <abattoir> onkeltuca: np
[03:09] <wily> zen2:
[03:09] <wily> zorglu_: Foreing address <IP_ADDRESS>.
[03:09] <klerfayt> is there an metapackage that allows me to compile kde styles?
[03:09] <zorglu_> wily: i dont understand what you mean
[03:09] <wily> can i call you in pvt
[03:09] <wily> ?
[03:09] <wily> i paste you my log
[03:10] <zorglu_> wily: nope, use pastebin
[03:10] <zorglu_> !pastebin
[03:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:10] <paul__> a reboot or kill process seems to work for me, it seems kismet srtill runs in process list even though been shutdown , hence address already in use
[03:10] <wily> ok !pastebin
[03:11] <wily> zorglu_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27666/
[03:11] <zorglu_> lookin
[03:11] <wily> process is the first
[03:12] <zorglu_> hmm seems like my netstat -p doesnt work that well
[03:12] <zen2> whats up wily
[03:13] <wily> kismet don't work
[03:13] <wily> zen2:
[03:13] <zen2> huh
[03:13] <zorglu_> oh ok
[03:13] <zen2> did i miss something
[03:13] <zorglu_> wily: i forgot, you need to be root. aka do "sudo netstat -ntlap"
[03:13] <wily> ok
[03:14] <zorglu_> zen2: i guess a nick completion confusion with me :)
[03:14] <zen2> lol makes edense
[03:14] <zen2> sense
[03:14] <zen2> lol
[03:14] <zen2> that makes sense
[03:15] <wily> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27667/
[03:15] <wily> zorglu_:
[03:15] <zorglu_> 2. tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:2501          <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN     5324/kismet_server
[03:15] <zorglu_> kismet is already running
[03:16] <wily> how i can close kismetserver?
[03:16] <paul__> told ya it fails to drop process when shutdown
[03:16] <zorglu_> that i dunno :) i dont even know what is kizmet
[03:16] <wily> thank you zorglu_
[03:16] <paul__> so kill in process list or reboot works
[03:16] <zorglu_> the expeditive, but maybe not the wisest, would be "sudo killall kismet_server"
[03:16] <m`kay> is there a namerule in ubuntu???
[03:17] <m`kay> like alphabetical?
[03:17] <wily> ok thank you all
[03:17] <JosefK> does anyone have a dcop command to get Konqueror to update it's plugin index?
[03:17] <paul__> I got a kismet drone running on my wrt54g
[03:18] <wily> paul__: how i can close kismet_server without rebboot?
[03:18] <JosefK> in fact, can anyone communicate with konqueror via dcop at all?  I keep getting "No such application" errors
[03:18] <paul__> I go to process list and kill it there
[03:18] <paul__> <--linux newb
[03:18] <abattoir> JosefK: use 'dcop' to get the name of the konqueror instance
[03:19] <wily> i know it paul__
[03:19] <wily> just killing pid
[03:19] <JosefK> abattoir: ah, thanks, I hoped there'd be a generic 'konqueror' instance running
[03:19] <abattoir> JosefK: its generally konqueror-xxxx where xxxx is a unique no.
[03:19] <wily> but i wold to know if at reboot i have kismet_server running
[03:19] <abattoir> JosefK: no, since you can have different instances of konq. and might want to communicate w/ each differently, each instance has a separate entry
[03:20] <JosefK> abattoir: indeed, I can just grep for an id from dcop or start my own if it isn't there in a script I guess
[03:21] <paul__> it dont run at startup by default unless you set it up to , if thats what your refering to ?
[03:23] <zorglu_> dcop konqueror-* KIO::Scheduler reparseConfiguration "" <- JosefK does this work ? this is from http://www.konqueror.org/faq/
[03:23] <wily> paul__: there are you?
[03:24] <JosefK> zorglu_: alas no, that seems to just reload the configuration, it looks like searching for plugins isn't exposed via dcop
[03:24] <paul__> ?
[03:25] <wily> i can't kill kismet_server process
[03:25] <paul__> then I guess a reboot
[03:25] <m_tadeu> is it possible to add tools to the tool menu in konqueror?
[03:26] <livingdaylight> was it image maggic or image shack?
[03:27] <abattoir> livingdaylight: imagemagick ?
[03:27] <livingdaylight> abattoir: dunno...
[03:27] <abattoir> livingdaylight: imageshak.us is where you can upload images to share
[03:27] <abattoir> *imageshack.us
[03:27] <livingdaylight> abattoir: thats the one... thx
[03:30] <zorglu_> m_tadeu: use 'kmenuedit'
[03:30] <zorglu_> q. i look for  a url scheme to have an url as parameter for another url ... any hint ?
[03:31] <zorglu_> ohhhh more seriously is there a ubuntu channel for web stuff ?
[03:32] <dhq> !ftp
[03:32] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[03:32] <m_tadeu> zorglu_: I'm talking about the konqueror->tools menu....the find file entry disapeared
[03:32] <zorglu_> m_tadeu: ah ok, then i dunno
[03:32] <dhq> can any one tell me an ftp server which i can configure grafical
[03:32] <Putero> hi, somebody know a similar program to SurMix2 for my soundblaster sound card? because i have a Audigy2 with proffesional sound for work, and under linux this card sound like a simple card integrated on mother board
[03:32] <zorglu_> m_tadeu: i got the same issue recently, the 'split view left/right' disapeared
[03:32] <dhq> fdoving: ^^
[03:34] <m_tadeu> zorglu_: I think  this happened on the kde355 upgrade
[03:34] <dhq> !gftp
[03:34] <ubotu> gftp: X/GTK+ FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-11ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 44 kB, installed size 76 kB
[03:34] <dhq> !ftpd
[03:34] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[03:34] <dhq> !proftpd
[03:34] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.10-27ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 351 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[03:34] <fdoving> dhq: pure-ftpd, get the packages 'pure-ftpd' 'kcmpureftpd' then you can find a pureftpd module in 'kcontrol' (kmenu -> run command 'kcontrol')
[03:35] <zorglu_> m_tadeu: i didnt update, so im my case, this is not that
[03:35] <dhq> fdoving: isnt there any other than pure-ftpd
[03:35] <m_tadeu> zorglu_: I'm googling on that....not much luck
[03:36] <fdoving> dhq: not that i know of. i don't use graphical stuff to configure my ftp servers.
[03:36] <zorglu_> m_tadeu: personnaly i just use a workaround, aka the 'split left/right' being accessible from elsewhere
[03:36] <dhq> fdoving: thanx
[03:36] <dhq> :)
[03:36] <JohnFlux> Hey all
[03:36] <JohnFlux> anyone know how to get dual screen working in edgy?
[03:37] <fdoving> dhq: there is proftpd and 'gproftpd' too, that's a gtk app, though.. it is graphical. never tried that either.
[03:37] <flaccid> !gproftpd
[03:37] <ubotu> gproftpd: GTK+ configuration tool for proftpd. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.2.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 175 kB, installed size 664 kB
[03:37] <flaccid> ah frontend
[03:38] <m_tadeu> zorglu_: yep...I think I'll do the same :) thanks
[04:00] <micra> Hi, Im setting up a Apache Server and the files are stored in var/www/, but i dont have access to delete or modify. If i rightclick i see that "root" has access to this folder. How do i change that?
[04:07] <micra> Hi, Im setting up a Apache Server and the files are stored in var/www/, but i dont have access to delete or modify. If i rightclick i see that "root" has access to this folder. How do i change that?
[04:11] <psb154> Micra you should have a www-data group you can add your user to.
[04:14] <micra> psb154: okay, and then i have access or?
[04:17] <CVirus> must Kmail krash on every mail sent ?
[04:17] <Mehercle> hi
[04:18] <Jucato> CVirus: *must* it? of course not... :(
[04:18] <Mehercle> when i press the power button on my computer it will shutdown and halt
[04:18] <azathor> hola cabritos
[04:18] <Mehercle> but.. i want him to hibernate
[04:18] <Mehercle> how can i config this?
[04:18] <azathor> alguien sabe de donde bajar el video code linux en espanol????
[04:18] <hastesaver_> !es
[04:18] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:19] <azathor> =
[04:19] <azathor> =)
[04:20] <onkeltuca> abattior: sry...this doesnt work neither... i have to go through this acpi stuff
[04:21] <magicmike> !paste
[04:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:23] <User_linux> Minha password doesnt work to log in, but it works to get acess to admin only functions
[04:23] <User_linux> btw, how do I select XGL as the default session?
[04:31] <User_linux> users and groups modulo couldnt be loaded
[04:32] <User_linux> what is broken??
[04:37] <magicmike> I've been having problems with my networking after I did the updates perhaps someone can help me with this. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27671/
[04:38] <igi> hi
[04:38] <igi> can someone tell me how can I renew my ip address
[04:38] <igi> with ethtool?
[04:42] <user_linux> the module users & grouops could not be loaded
[04:44] <Digital_Pioneer> Is that channel topic saying that KDE 3.5.5 is stable? I've got 3.5.2.
[04:45] <Jucato> Digital_Pioneer: it's saying that packages for KDE 3.5.3 are now available
[04:45] <Jucato> that KDE 3.5.5 has been officially released
[04:46] <kimo> I'm upgrading to edgy RC, should I leave kde-latest repo on?
[04:46] <Jucato> kimo: no need to. Edgy has 3.5.5
[04:53] <francisco_> hola
[04:54] <Digital_Pioneer> francisco_: Just so you know you're not alone in the world, Hi.
[04:54] <Digital_Pioneer> ;)
[04:54] <BonBonTheJon> !es > francisco_
[04:54] <BonBonTheJon> Digital_Pioneer: guess he didnt need anything
[04:54] <Digital_Pioneer> Yeah.
[04:55] <Digital_Pioneer> BonBonTheJon: You can tell he's Spanish by his saying 'Hola'?
[04:55] <Digital_Pioneer> LOL
[04:55] <kimo> Duh, upgrading to edgyRC, it says upstart is broken & not installing it!
[04:56] <BonBonTheJon> Digital_Pioneer: this is a little off topic, but.... do you by chance know anything about the Windows Error-CHecking
[04:56] <Digital_Pioneer> BonBonTheJon: Error checking? I know a good bit about Windoze, but you'll have to be more specific.
[04:57] <swanfl> hi everyone
[04:58] <soulrider> hi
[04:58] <BonBonTheJon> hi
[04:58] <swanfl> does anyone have this problem in Firefox? When I go to preferences, the program crashes.
[04:58] <soulrider> not me
[04:58] <soulrider> you might wanna try Opera out though
[04:58] <soulrider> its a GREAT browser
[04:58] <B-Minus> so is firefox :p
[04:58] <swanfl> I use opera too, but there are things firefox does that opera does not
[04:59] <soulrider> i prefer opera :P
[04:59] <soulrider> but what i like abour FF
[04:59] <soulrider> is that you can delete your history when you exit
[04:59] <soulrider> thats cool
[05:00] <Clinton__> Where can I find the default Kubuntu themes?  I changed mine and would like to change it back.
[05:00] <soulrider> it should still be in system settings
[05:00] <soulrider> uber colors and decoration
[05:01] <DeJaMo> right click on desktop, configure desktop, defaults
[05:01] <Digital_Pioneer> How do I set up multiple user accounts?
[05:02] <Digital_Pioneer> Like logging into a different user at KDM.
[05:02] <soulrider> system settings > users ?
[05:02] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: system setting -> user account
[05:02] <zorglu_> like he said :)
[05:02] <Clinton__> uh, not quite, now everything is in high contrast
[05:03] <B-Minus> is it possible to make a backup of my whole linux partition ?
[05:03] <B-Minus> i mean like all linux partitions together
[05:03] <B-Minus> clone
[05:03] <Clinton__> B-Minus: yup
[05:03] <B-Minus> mm
[05:03] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: OK, thanks.
[05:03] <kimo> B-Minus: google for "ghost for linux" or "mondo rescue"
[05:04] <B-Minus> ok
[05:04] <Clinton__> alright, the default kubuntu theme is nowhere to be found, and defaulting to it isn't possible.  Where can I download the theme?
[05:04] <B-Minus> tnx
[05:04] <Seph`Nix> hi guys, how can i find out wether my kubuntu is dapper, breezy, etc?  i want to update my sources.list - cant remember when i got this cd ^^;
[05:05] <zorglu_> Seph`Nix: "lsbrelease -a"
[05:05] <Seph`Nix> thankyou :)
[05:05] <soulrider> zorglu_: that wont work for me
[05:06] <Seph`Nix> zorg- lsbrelease: command not found
[05:06] <Seph`Nix> :(
[05:06] <Vuen> that's wierd
[05:06] <zorglu_> lsb_release -a
[05:06] <zorglu_> forgot a _ :)
[05:06] <Vuen> Seph`Nix: look on the cd, it should give you a version number
[05:06] <Seph`Nix> perfect thankyou
[05:06] <Vuen> oh, Seph`Nix, you forgot the underscore
[05:07] <Seph`Nix> 6.06 dapper ^^;
[05:07] <Vuen> wow i'm slow. ignore me
[05:07] <Seph`Nix> haha its ok thanks for helping Vuen :)
[05:07] <swanfl> look in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:07] <soulrider> im downloading suse, i wanan try it out
[05:07] <soulrider> but as son as edgy comes out
[05:07] <soulrider> im comming back
[05:07] <Vuen> why suse?
[05:08] <Vuen> edgy comes out in five days
[05:08] <soulrider> just wanna try it
[05:08] <Vuen> alright
[05:08] <soulrider> i never tried any toher distros than kubuntu
[05:08] <Seph`Nix> hmm, for the source-o-matic, letter code for england be UK?  GB? E?
[05:08] <zorglu_> uk
[05:08] <Seph`Nix> ok thanks
[05:09] <vandenoever> i just installed Edgy RC. Strigi runs great on it! hooray
[05:09] <Vuen> strigi?
[05:09] <vandenoever> now i'm playing with Konqueror
[05:10] <vandenoever> Vuen: desktop search
[05:10] <Vuen> mmm
[05:10] <vandenoever> Vuen: it's in universe, install strigi-applet to test it
[05:10] <vandenoever> Vuen: http://www.vandenoever.info/software/strigi
[05:10] <soulrider> i upgraded dapper toe dgy when knot 2 came out
[05:10] <guano> ci
[05:11] <Vuen> i upgraded to edgy when beta came out
[05:11] <Vuen> never had any problems with it
[05:11] <vandenoever> In konqueror, i cannot switch tabs with ctrl-[ and ctrl-]
[05:11] <guano> ho bisogno di aiuto
[05:11] <vandenoever> do others have this problem too?
[05:13] <user_linux> The module Users & Groups could not be loaded
[05:13] <swanfl> I have problems with ctrl + and ctrl _ changing my screen resolution
[05:13] <swanfl> er ctrl -
[05:13] <guano> nuccio sei italiano
[05:14] <BonBonTheJon> !it > guano
[05:14] <user_linux> helpppppppppp
[05:14] <swanfl> !es
[05:14] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:14] <user_linux> The module Users & Groups could not be loaded
[05:14] <vandenoever> swanfl: but ctrl-[ and ctrl-]  work?
[05:14] <swanfl> oops. wrong language
[05:14] <swanfl> hold a sec, vandenoever, please
[05:14] <swanfl> let mecheck
[05:15] <swanfl> NM
[05:15] <swanfl> I messed up
[05:15] <swanfl> it's ctrl alt kpplus
[05:18] <VanessaE> swan's talking about the X thing to change screen mode/rez (broken in edgy)
[05:18] <Seph`Nix> is cipherfunk.org alive?  my apt-get update is hanging on connecting to cipherfunk.org - however it might be a problem my end
[05:18] <vandenoever> swanfl: ctrl-alt-kpplus?
[05:18] <vandenoever> VanessaE: ah, ok
[05:18] <Seph`Nix> earlier i tried to download the nvidia drivers and it kept stalling - went and did it on another pc in the end (though even there it crawled)
[05:18] <VanessaE> Seph: from nvidia's server?
[05:18] <Seph`Nix> yes
[05:19] <VanessaE> that's nvidia's fault, I've had it happen as well
[05:19] <Seph`Nix> on my windows machine, where all other net things are working fine, i only got 20k a sec
[05:19] <Seph`Nix> ok
[05:19] <VanessaE> sometimes, wget can work through that prob.
[05:19] <VanessaE> vandenoever, see this bug:  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/66203
[05:19] <Seph`Nix> now i'm going to try and install those nvidia drivers hree ^^  its gone badly in the past so this time i've grabbed a guide
[05:20] <vandenoever> VanessaE: how is that related to ctrl-[ and ctrl-]  in konqueror in edgy?
[05:20] <Seph`Nix> 8 pages of text just to install one set of drivers :x
[05:20] <Seph`Nix> im gonna get to it, idle for a bit
[05:20] <VanessaE> van: it's not related.
[05:20] <VanessaE> swan just wrote the wrong keys, he was confused :)
[05:20] <Acidic32> my dvd playback is slwo
[05:20] <Acidic32> slow*
[05:20] <Acidic32> someone told me about hdparms or something
[05:21] <Acidic32> !hdparms
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdparms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <VanessaE> acidic: hdparm /dev/hdc (or whatever your dvd is)
[05:21] <VanessaE> about all you are interested in is whether it says using_dma is on or not.
[05:21] <Acidic32> k
[05:22] <Acidic32> using_dma is on
[05:22] <kimo> upgrading to edgyRC, it says upstart is broken & not installing it!
[05:22] <VanessaE> ok, is direct rendering turned on in your video driver?
[05:23] <Acidic32> how do i find out
[05:23] <VanessaE> glxinfo | grep rendering
[05:24] <Acidic32> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[05:24] <VanessaE> ew.
[05:24] <VanessaE> well you don't need glx itself to play movies of course
[05:24] <VanessaE> but direct rendering is needed, otherwise the xv window doesn't work right
[05:24] <Acidic32> ok
[05:25] <VanessaE> what kind of vid card?
[05:26] <VanessaE> (xv is the name given to the video overlay, which is used to display movies in xine, mplayer, etc)
[05:29] <zorglu_> Acidic32: what is the result of "xvinfo|grep ports"
[05:30] <xitium> Hi I have a question for ya'll, I installed ubuntu but I have decided that I like kubuntu better, how can I remove gnome and the gnome apps that came installed with ubuntu?
[05:31] <Acidic32>     number of ports: 1
[05:31] <Acidic32>     number of ports: 32
[05:31] <zorglu_> Acidic32: you already got xv running
[05:31] <BonBonTheJon> xitium: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[05:31] <Acidic32> k
[05:31] <knowone> bonbon: you beat me to it
[05:31] <otaku-san> Ok, A Stable Edgy RC is gonna be here any day.  So I'm getting ready to upgrade...but will it have issues with upgrading like Dapper did?
[05:31] <BonBonTheJon> knowone: sorry :)
[05:32] <knowone> =o)
[05:32] <xitium> BonBonTheJon: I saw that page on the net but it says what to do if you installed with apt ... etc but not what to do if it was the base installation
[05:32] <zorglu_> otaku-san: a stable release candidate, a new concept :)
[05:32] <BonBonTheJon> xitium: did you install the package kubuntu-desktop
[05:32] <xitium> BonBonTheJon yes
[05:33] <BonBonTheJon> xitium: ok, you can uninstall those packages
[05:33] <xitium> uninstall the ubuntu-desktop packages or the kubuntu ones?
[05:33] <otaku-san> zorglu_: *rolls eyes*  I meant when it's out of being beta...
[05:33] <otaku-san> ;)
[05:33] <BonBonTheJon> xitium: if you uninstall ubuntu-desktop nothing will happen, it is called a meta-package
[05:34] <BonBonTheJon> xitium: you need to uninstall all the packages on that packe
[05:34] <zorglu_> otaku-san: :) in theory there are no problem upgrading, as for the practice, it can't be answered in advance :)
[05:34] <dhq> can any one help me with pureftpd
[05:34] <swanfl> How do I go back to dapper without removing all the programs I installed and without reinstalling from the CD?
[05:35] <zorglu_> swanfl: what do you mean 'go back to dapper'
[05:35] <xitium> BonBonTheJon, so I just follow the steps on http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde ?
[05:35] <swanfl> zorglu_, I'm using edgy
[05:35] <dhq> fdoving: i am using pureftpd i did as you said i got it in my kcontrol but the problem is i can still only use root account and no other user i create plese help me
[05:36] <zorglu_> i think a tool to remove apps is needed, those kind of huge command from the web doesnt quite make it :)
[05:36] <knowone> xitium: yes
[05:36] <otaku-san> zorglu_: Hahaha!  Nothings perfect eh? :)   Oh, man...I'll just have to back up (saw some blogs on that at Planet Ubuntu...kinda weird actually) and just dive off the deep end and upgrade
[05:36] <zorglu_> swanfl: ok, and what do you want ? 'going back to dapper' meaning is very unclear
[05:37] <xitium> I'll try it and see what happens :)
[05:37] <swanfl> I want to stop using edgy and return to using dapper
[05:38] <knowone> xitium: If you've just installed ubuntu, and you'd rather have a pure KDE desktop, you may just want to reinstall with a Kubuntu disk.  I assume, of course, that you have a speedy enough connection to download a Kubuntu disk quickly...
[05:38] <Lynoure> swanfl: What was wrong with edgy?
[05:38] <zorglu_> swanfl: hmm not possible easily. i see 2 alternatives, (i) reinstalling a dapper from the cd or (ii) uninstalling all the apps you installed for edgy and reinstalling the one you removed
[05:39] <zorglu_> swanfl: the second is very long, complex and error prone
[05:39] <swanfl> 3 problems that I became aware of rather quickly, Lynoure.
[05:39] <zorglu_> a tool to rollback the apt-get would be good too :)
[05:40] <otaku-san> rollback?
[05:40] <grayeul> Where do I find settings to change keyboard shortcuts for desktop switching?
[05:40] <swanfl> 1) ctrl alt + and xtrl alt - did not change my screen resolution. 2) When I try to go to preferences in firefox, it crashes the program. 3) when I play I try to play several games, the crash X
[05:40] <zorglu_> otaku-san: like you upgrade package A v1 by v2, ok now roll back and come back to v1. but with several packages
[05:41] <otaku-san> zorglu_: hahaha that's a good idea.  But, just a simple chat of this channel could create a list that would make any coder cringe.
[05:41] <zorglu_> otaku-san: yep :)
[05:42] <zorglu_> otaku-san: but the inability to delete and rollback makes people very cautious to install/upgrade. this is no good
[05:43] <Lynoure> swanfl: the 1st I have on dapper too
[05:43] <otaku-san> zorglu_: it is...I found this out the very hard way....
[05:44] <zorglu_> otaku-san: i update only when explicitly required, for this exact reason :)
[05:44] <swanfl> my wife doesn't, Lynoure
[05:45] <brainless> argh ... the liveCD has such a bad performance on my laptop ... and when I finally managed to get past step 5 (perparing mount points), the installer crashed :/
[05:46] <otaku-san> zorglu_: This is why the edgy upgrade is kinda putting me on edge....I guess it's living up to it's name.  But I'm hoping this new upgrade will get rid of various hiccups I've brought into the system
[05:47] <grayeul> brainless: I fought that problem all day yesterday.... but I tried the Alternate installer and it went smootlhly
[05:47] <otaku-san> zorglu_: Dapper was my first taste of Linux...so it was a bit of a guinea pig for me
[05:47] <zorglu_> otaku-san: you expect an update to fix your config problem ?
[05:48] <brainless> can I get into the alternate installer from the desktop-CD?