[05:46] <tjmac> I dont what?
[05:47] <crdlb> compiz will run pretty much anywhere
[05:47] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Beryl is no longer in existence. compiz-fusion has become the effects.
[05:47] <dinesh86> syn out of range problem
[05:47] <PurpZeY> crdlb: I thought it was gnome based.
[05:47] <tjmac> than how do I install that?
[05:47] <abdulla> PurpZeY, u sure? compiz cant run in xfc?
[05:47] <PurpZeY> abdulla: I am wrong. it can
[05:47] <abdulla> even if you get the essentials ?
[05:47] <tjmac> and how do I install an IRC chat client so I can chat from ubuntu
[05:47] <nickrud> ljsmithx, you didn't add the gpg key to your key-ring, see the front page again it has instructions
[05:48] <ljsmithx> ok
[05:48] <tuntun> why isn't the "eyecandy" theme installed with xchat?
[05:48] <ljsmithx> thanks
[05:48] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Installing programs and packages is very simple to do using add/remove or synaptic package installer
[05:48] <crdlb> PurpZeY: no, ubuntu has provided some integration between compiz and gnome (as have the upstream compiz and compiz fusion developers), but all that is optional
[05:48] <shadowbw> tjmac - Ubuntu comes installed with XChat I believe
[05:48] <abdulla> i dont see the diffrence in Ubuntu and Xubuntu? then? , is the power diffrent? which will promise me more saftey to my files i dont want to have some glitches just to bypass speed
[05:48] <PurpZeY> crdlb: Got it .
[05:48] <nickrud> crdlb, is compiz easily used with xfce?
[05:48] <tjmac> ok so do I just click add remove and it automatically installs, and where do I find Xchat?
[05:49] <nickrud> crdlb, nm, I read back :)
[05:49] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Under the applications menu you'll search for internet programs or for chat and it will install it
[05:49] <dinesh86> sync out of range problem
[05:49] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Applications --> Add/remove --> Internet
[05:50] <tjmac> awesome thanks guys I am going to install Ubuntu and I will be right back
[05:51] <Smegzor> I want to be able to search my nfs shares.  I've installed Beagle, but is there a tool that will just search rather than insist on indexing then searching?
[05:51] <abdulla> Smegzor, get Ubuntu Go
[05:52] <abdulla> i mean Smegzor Gnome DO
[05:52] <Smegzor> i have that already
[05:52] <abdulla> ?
[05:52] <abdulla> not good enough
[05:52] <shadowbw> who was asking about hiding the system tray icon?
[05:52] <PurpZeY> Smegzor: Beagle has to index files. . .
[05:52] <PurpZeY> shadow: tuntun
[05:52] <Smegzor> yeah I know :(
[05:54] <Smegzor> hmm!  I have Gnome Do, but I use KDE and I can't see it in the menu.  I'll see if I can run it anyway
[05:54] <ljsmithx> When I run aMSN, I choose get more skins and I get a message like this... Cannot execut mozzila url$
[05:54] <ljsmithx> somthing like that
[05:54] <tuntun> gutsy crashed again...*sigh*
[05:54] <shadowbw> the answer to hiding the xchat icon is in Xchat -> Settings -> Prefrences -> Alerts
[05:55] <nickrud> ljsmithx, not sure where to look, but somewhere in the options it'll say what browser to use, you need to change it to firefox I'd expect
[05:55] <zero88> solid_liquid hey u there still
[05:55] <tuntun> gutsy crashed again...*sigh*
[05:55] <PurpZeY> tuntun: You sure it's gutsy and not just compiz?
[05:56] <marltu> how can I change permissions for ntfs mounted devices. i want them to be 777
[05:56] <ljsmithx> ok
[05:56] <marltu> (drivers)
[05:56] <marltu> (drives)
[05:56] <dinesh86> sync out of range problem
[05:56] <marltu> or partitions, whatever :)
[05:56] <tuntun> PurpZeY: I am suspecting compiz because it always freezes mid transistion, but that would still mean that gutsy was acrashin'
[05:57] <PurpZeY> tuntun: Is it a total freeze, or you just lose windows borders and things?
[05:57] <shadowbw> I had same problem with Fiesty to Gutsy upgrade
[05:57] <shadowbw> fresh Gutsy install fixed my problem
[05:58] <tuntun> PurpZeY: total freeze, but Borders and this also go missing occasionally without any impact
[05:58] <evil_tech> stupid question time. how do i figure out what device is hd0?
[05:58] <gary4gar> dinesh86, whats your monitor model, check the proper sync valued in mannual & supply that by sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:58] <PurpZeY> tuntun: The borders thing is easily fixed, right click on the CCSM, hit "reload windows manager"
[05:58] <nickrud> evil_tech, that would be ide0 drive 0
[05:58] <tuntun> evil_tech: sorry, you mist stupid question time for today! :O
[05:59] <evil_tech> so if i am installing to sda2 should i change the (hd0) in the advance tab of the installer?
[05:59] <dinesh86> thanx gary
[05:59] <PurpZeY> evil_tech: Eh.....not sure that's right
[05:59] <evil_tech> hmm
[06:00] <nickrud> evil_tech if you're talking about the where it wants to write the boot record, leave it as hd0 since that's where the bios will look for it
[06:00] <evil_tech>  i dont want it messing up my vista drive
[06:00] <shadowbw> vista probably messed up your vista drive
[06:00] <PurpZeY> evil_tech: You are going to have a problem b/c ubuntu/vista b/c vista likes to eat drives
[06:01] <evil_tech> when i am using vista the ubuntu drive isnt in the bay
[06:01] <nickrud> evil_tech, if you don't, you'll probably need to make a boot floppy to boot ubuntu
[06:01] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: How many drives do you have?
[06:01] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: 2 physical disks?
[06:01] <PurpZeY> evil_tech: Ah....hard swap.
[06:01] <zero88> VISTA sucks
[06:01] <evil_tech> 1 SATA with Vista
[06:01] <AzMoo> zero88: totally.
[06:01] <ryancr> I am using the Terminal Server Client, and I am trying to connect to a remote xp machine using rdp, I get the xp prompt but it doesn't seem to want to except the password, any ideas.
[06:01] <evil_tech> 2 removable bays one with Ubuntu and one with Fedora 8
[06:01] <Cpudan80> And you want to shrink the Vista partition and install Ubuntu evil_tech ?
[06:01] <evil_tech> no
[06:01]  * nickrud thinks vista is just fine, for what it is
[06:01] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: Back up a minute
[06:01] <evil_tech> intalling it on its own drive
[06:02] <PurpZeY> ryancr: I'd figure go with SAMBA, just my opinion.
[06:02] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: How many physical disks do you have
[06:02] <shadowbw> ryancr: check out rdesktop
[06:02] <RedAlien> How do I know which charset my system is using?
[06:02] <evil_tech> 3
[06:02] <tuntun> PurpZeY: well the titlebar on an newly active window occasionally presents itself as inactive, and the window buttons aren't framed, its not a big nuisance tough.
[06:02]  * zero88 tosses AzMoo smashed copies of Windblows
[06:02] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: OK - now is each disk SATA - or are some of them IDE?
[06:02] <PurpZeY> tuntun: well, that's the fix. . .
[06:02] <evil_tech> 2 ide 1 sata
[06:02] <ryancr> well i believe terminal server client just uses rdesktop, and i tried rdesktop at the command line and got the same result
[06:02] <evil_tech> but the IDE are on a pci controller
[06:02] <tuntun> PurpZeY: thnx
[06:03] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: OK, Vista is on which drive?
[06:03] <ryancr> "The system could not log you on. Make sure your Username and domain are correct..."
[06:03] <evil_tech> SATA
[06:03] <Cpudan80> Vista should be SDA1
[06:03] <Cpudan80> The other two will be SDB1 and SDC1, respectively
[06:03] <evil_tech> not according to the partitioner
[06:04] <Cpudan80> The primary IDE drive will take B, the secondary will take C
[06:04] <ljsmithx> Ok I fixed it
[06:04] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: What does the partitioner say?
[06:04] <nickrud> evil_tech, can you choose the boot drive at boot time?
[06:04] <kote> no more hda? huh
[06:04] <shadowbw> ryancr: when I did this I remember having that same problem, you doing this on a LAN connection?
[06:04] <evil_tech> Vista is on sdc
[06:04] <evil_tech> im installing ubuntu to sda
[06:04] <evil_tech> and sdb is my storage drive
[06:05] <ryancr> shadowbw: no across regular network, home -> office
[06:05] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: What's the boot order in your BIOS?
[06:05] <evil_tech> Sony DVD ROM
[06:05] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: It could be that your BIOS gives preference to the IDE drives
[06:05] <Cpudan80> In which case, vista would be SDC1
[06:05] <evil_tech> Then the drive i am trying to install Ubuntu on (removable ide)
[06:05] <ryancr> shadowbw: just trying to figure out if its some flag i am missing
[06:05] <Cpudan80> OK great
[06:05] <evil_tech> then the vista drive last
[06:06] <Cpudan80> So ubuntu is SDA1, vista is SDC1
[06:06] <Cpudan80> So... what's the problem?
[06:06] <PurpZeY> Cpudan80: I think he was just looking for the proper config
[06:07] <Cpudan80> Oh well
[06:07] <Cpudan80> That's it then :-)
[06:07] <evil_tech> the installer is going to install grub to hd0. shouldnt it install to the drive ubuntu is going to be on (SDA1 according to the installers partitioner)
[06:07] <AzMoo> Any ideas on how to use > and sudo at the same time?
[06:07] <nickrud> evil_tech, that is sda :)
[06:07] <PurpZeY> evil_tech: You have to do manual.
[06:07] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: It needs to put grub on the first boot device
[06:07] <Cpudan80> Which, in your case is SDA1
[06:07] <nickrud> evil_tech, sda in this context is ide0 drive 0
[06:07] <shadowbw> ryancr: I believe I had to make an account on the XP machine that used my Ubuntu's username and password
[06:07] <Cpudan80> Which is HD0
[06:08] <evil_tech> i think i will just unplug the other two drive so i know it installs grub where i want
[06:08] <NemesisD> hi, is there any way to figure out which drive corresponds to which hd# so I can be sure I'm setting up my menu.lst correctly?
[06:08] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: Bad idea
[06:08] <evil_tech> why?
[06:08] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: It's setup correctly
[06:08] <shadowbw> ryancr: it's been awhile since I dealt with that, so things might have changed, but I think that was how I got that to work
[06:08] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: Then it won't see vista - so you wont get it in your list of boot options
[06:08] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: It is setup correctly as is, go for it
[06:08] <ryancr> shadowbw: hmm, interesting, ill look into that, thanks, at least it gives me a place to start ;)
[06:09] <evil_tech> the bios will look for the cdrom find nothing then go to the ubuntu drive and run ubuntu. when i dont have that drive in the system it will boot vista
[06:09] <shadowbw> ryancr: also check out VMWARE
[06:09] <PurpZeY> Cpudan80: It doesn't matter much about grub b/c he's got a hotswap
[06:09] <shadowbw> ryancr: or if you want to do it how I do it now.....use ssh tunneling
[06:09] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: It does if he ever wants to keep them installed at the same time
[06:09] <makers_mark> does anyone work with osx here?
[06:09] <wibou> Hello everyone.
[06:09] <shadowbw> ryancr: a search on google will tell you everything you need to know about shh tunneling
[06:10] <Cpudan80> oops that was for PurpZeY
[06:10] <PurpZeY> Cpudan80: I understand, I am just saying, I think that's what he is saying
[06:10] <evil_tech> yes
[06:10] <ryancr> shadowbw: yeah if i was smart enough to setup up the ssh server on my linux box at work thats how I would have done it, but I am stuck just trying to use this rdp to an xp machine for now
[06:10] <evil_tech> i dont want grub to see the vista drive at all
[06:10] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: Oh
[06:10] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: so unplug it like you said
[06:10] <evil_tech> if i want to run vista i will physically remove the ubuntu drive
[06:10] <Cpudan80> and the other one too
[06:10] <nickrud> evil_tech, then you will have to remove the vista, or edit menu.lst after install
[06:10] <PurpZeY> Cpudan80: I've had a similar setup...You use them like drawers
[06:10] <evil_tech> yeah should have done that in the first place i suppose
[06:10] <wibou> I have a very quick question about vanilla kernel recompilation on ubuntu... anyone here have any experience about it? :)
[06:11] <shadowbw> well the ssh server is more secure and easier to use imo
[06:11] <nickrud> evil_tech, it's simple to edit the menu.lst, just delete the vista stanza after the install is complete
[06:11] <shadowbw> ryancr: and there are step-by-step guides for setting up your exact situation
[06:11] <evil_tech> like i said i dont want grub to touch that vista drive
[06:12] <evil_tech> just going to unplug the other drives
[06:12] <nickrud> evil_tech, it won't touch it, it will simply reference it
[06:12] <ryancr> shadowbw: yes i know, its not a problem I can do it tomorrow, but I wanted access to night and I'm not driving back to the office ;)
[06:12] <Cryx> Anyone familiar with php+vpn+ldap to give me a small hint. I have LDAP/VPN server hosted elsewhere, and i need to connect that server from my home. at home i have made small site that uses php to get data into it via vpnclient from LDAP. I have a problem now that server wont allow me to change timeout higher than 90 and my client drops all the time cause of this. I have tought making php script into shell and run it with cron that just open
[06:12] <evil_tech> thanks for the help all
[06:12] <Cpudan80> Cryx: PHP scripts can run from the command line easily
[06:12] <cl10> ;p;
[06:13] <Cpudan80> Cryx: $_GET doesn't work right -- you have to use something else IIRC
[06:13]  * syc_ assalamualaikum wr wb
[06:13] <makers_mark> is there a command in the OS X terminal similar to "apt-get" so that i can get apps without having to go online and manually download them?
[06:13] <wibou> Anyone ever tried to recompile a kernel free of initrd image on ubuntu?
[06:13] <nickrud> makers_mark, try asking on a osx channel
[06:14] <makers_mark> they'yre all sleeping nickrud :)
[06:14] <nickrud> makers_mark, oh. Lazy buggers
[06:15] <makers_mark> i know...51 people on apple and none are answering.they're not even chatting amongst themselves nickrud.
[06:15] <nickrud> makers_mark, you might try searching on ircsearch.com for other apple channels, bound to be one that's active
[06:16] <makers_mark> thanks nickrud
[06:16] <makers_mark> hey nickrud,since i still got you.do you think it's a good idea to switch from ubuntu to SuSE? (btw i'm a linux nubber)
[06:17] <makers_mark> the only issue is that i have trouble running kde on my pc.
[06:17] <kote> makers_mark, youre in an ubuntu channel :)
[06:17] <nickrud> makers_mark, switch? No opinion. Install it on another partition? Sure, check it out
[06:18] <makers_mark> ok.i know it's a shot in the dark,but any clues why kde makes my computer freeze ever 3 minutes? (literally)
[06:18] <makers_mark> and i have no trouble with gnome at all
[06:19] <PurpZeY> makers_mark: ask in #kubuntu perhaps
[06:19] <interceptor> !ru
[06:19] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[06:19]  * nickrud bites his tongue, and passes up a chance to dis kde :)
[06:19] <makers_mark> k,thanks.
[06:19] <makers_mark> nickrud you little sob :P :P
[06:20] <xkarimx> Hye all! May i know how by using SSH i can run Xchat IRC on my Ubuntu? Thanxs
[06:21] <PurpZeY> asked so nicely....wish i had an answer
[06:21] <xkarimx> huhuhuhuhu
[06:21] <PurpZeY> xkarimx: I don't know, but you asked rather politely, and that is uncommon
[06:22] <libqt4> i really stuffed up my wine , tried reinstalling after uninstalling and its giving me a whole load of errors, i was frustrated at the time and manualy deleted the wine files under /home/#user/.wine/
[06:22] <PurpZeY> xkarimx: I imagine someone knows, just not me.
[06:22] <wibou> xkarimx : well just start a command line client? Back in time, b*tchX was the best one I think (replace the * with a i)
[06:22] <xkarimx> huhuhuhu.. thanxs.
[06:22] <wibou> np
[06:23] <xkarimx> hye wibou! did u mean using SSH i can run b*tchx on my ubuntu?
[06:23] <WEW> I tried modprobe -r snd-hda-intel, and it says Module snd_hda_intel is in use. How do I know what is using it?
[06:23] <wibou> xkarimx : depend what you mean by "using ssh". If you mean you want to use IRC while connected to your ubuntu box, then yes.
[06:24] <nickrud> WEW, lsmod | grep snd_hda_intel
[06:24] <wibou> Anyone here could answer some deep questions about kernel recompilation?
[06:24] <shownowon> makers_mark:
[06:25] <nickrud> WEW, sorry, backwards thinking, that shows whats being used by snd-hda-intel
[06:25] <nos> Anyone knows read PDF in terminal?
[06:25] <makers_mark> shownowon ?
[06:26] <shownowon> makers_mark: sorry...mistype
[06:26] <xkarimx> wibou: actually my scenario is like this, i would like to access my Ubuntu from others PC/location by using SSH to open/run any IRC client (b*itch/Xchat/etc) . I also would like to know it is possible via SSH i also can update my Ubuntu?
[06:26] <WEW> nickrud: I got this http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=9296
[06:26] <makers_mark> shownowon STOP PLAYING WITH MY HEAD!!!
[06:26] <nickrud> WEW, I was thinking backwards, that shows what's being used by snd-hda-intel , sorry
[06:27] <makers_mark> shownowon :D
[06:27] <gary4gar> nos, You can convert the pdf to ascii with pdftotext, and view that. But it really depends on what kind of information you want to see in the pdf - pictures or text?
[06:27] <WEW> nickrud: Okay so what else can I do other than restarting GDM
[06:27] <nickrud> WEW, what are you trying to accomplish? removing modules isn't really a recommended thing
[06:27] <nos> thanks, I just want to see the text in the pdf
[06:27] <wibou> xkarimx : yup then b*itchX is what you need... command-line IRC. To update, just use the "usual" command-line dpkg command ( search about "apt-get" on google, you should find good documenttation)
[06:28] <nickrud> WEW, and I don't think restarting gdm wouldn't be enough, to answer your question
[06:28] <WEW> nickrud: My sound is not working in Cedega. Whenever this happens, I stop gdm, remove the module and add it again, and start gdm. But I wanna do it without stopping gdm each time
[06:28] <gary4gar> nos, You can view images and you can view text using svgalib.
[06:28] <wibou> WEW : gdm use the module... removing the module without stoping it would probably crash your computer...
[06:29] <xkarimx> wibou: ok thanxs dude. now i focus searching on b*tch hehehe before this aready "googling" with Xchat but wont help.thanxs
[06:29] <WEW> Oh, okay.
[06:29] <nos> should i install the svgalib-bin?
[06:30] <jeffrey_> HELLO
[06:30] <wibou> WEW : If you are really crazy, i guess you could recompile your kernel to add the "force module removal" option and you could then FORCE the module to be removed but it would end in a disaster 9 time out of ten :P
[06:30] <nickrud> wibou, and you're asking for kernel compile help? ;P
[06:31] <PurpZeY> WEW: Isn't cadega a paid piece of software, don't they support it?
[06:31] <wibou> nickrud : I know how to do, dont worry... but ubuntu seems to have mess up something with their initrd use and so if I try to get rid of this, my kernel will freeze at boot...
[06:32] <gary4gar> nos,google for  pdf text converter
[06:32] <wibou> nickrud : but since I really hate that initrd stuff, I keep trying to get rid of it anyways :P
[06:32] <nrdb> I am trying to run a python app. it is using "gtk.PrintOperation" which module to I need to install to get this ?
[06:32] <nickrud> wibou, basically you need to compile in ext3 support, hard drive support, and your chipset support.
[06:32] <nos> ok,thanks gary4gar
[06:33] <wibou> nickrud : yeah I know... but it wont work. The system just freeze at boot, I don't even get a kernel panic...
[06:33] <mrdigital> how can i tell what chipset my tv tuner is?
[06:33] <gary4gar> mrdigital,check the output of lspci
[06:33] <mrdigital> how do i do that?
[06:33] <cypah> cypa
[06:33] <PurpZeY> mrdigital: lspci
[06:33] <gary4gar> mrdigital, type it in !terminal
[06:33] <wibou> nickrud : I tried (a lot of) various configs, I even tried to include "everything" into the kernel... alwsys the same result : hang at boot.
[06:33] <nickrud> wibou, I did a kernel compile for the first time in years recently (trying to get the slab so I could suspend with fglrx) and forgot them. Compiled them in, and it booted
[06:34] <gary4gar> !terminal | mrdigital
[06:34] <ubotu> mrdigital: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:34] <mrdigital> gary4gar: lspci doesnt see my tv tuner'
[06:34] <gary4gar> mrdigital, post the output
[06:34] <wibou> nickrud : what you mean forgot "them" ? You mean you forgot initrd ?
[06:35] <nickrud> wibou, yes, forgot all about needing to be able to read the disk to boot :)
[06:35] <mrdigital> in pastbin?
[06:35] <PurpZeY> mrdigital: yes
[06:35] <tjmac> GUESS WHAT!!! I got my Linux Ubuntu installed!!!!!
[06:35] <PurpZeY> !paste | mrdigital
[06:35] <ubotu> mrdigital: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:35] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Sweet.
[06:36] <CentHOGG> tjmac: hear anything?
[06:36] <mrdigital> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50574
[06:36] <tjmac> now I have a question (I am a first time user.)
[06:36] <mannytu> :-D
[06:36] <tjmac> I just installed xchat, were do I find the program?
[06:37] <wibou> nickrud : Well... Right now I can't find out what I am missing. There must be "something" tricky about initrd that's new because even with my "old" kernel config from gentoo (I was using it before) that was working, it will hang at boot :/
[06:37] <mrdigital> tjmac: open konsole and type
[06:37] <mrdigital> xchat
[06:37] <tjmac> can I make a shortcut for xchat?
[06:37] <mrdigital> yes
[06:37] <PurpZeY> tjmac: It should also add itself to applications if you used add/remove
[06:37] <mrdigital> i dont know how in gnome
[06:37] <tuntun> tjmac>applications>internet>xchat
[06:37] <tjmac> I used add/remove but cant find the app.
[06:38] <mannytu> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[06:38] <mannytu> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[06:38] <tjmac> its not under internet
[06:38] <nrdb> I am using python I need to use "gtk.PrintOperation" does anyone know what package its in ?
[06:38] <mrdigital> any ideas on the lspci?
[06:38] <mannytu> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[06:38] <PurpZeY> nrdb: Why not ask in #python?
[06:39] <nrdb> PurpZeY: I am not at my usaul computer and you can only join if you are registered.
[06:39] <nickrud> wibou, well, that's a deep kernel question alright. You've already considered what I brought up
[06:39] <wibou> tjmac : type "whereis xchat" in a terminal then just add a shortcut in gnome for this ( right click on "application" menu then "edit menus")
[06:39] <Christian> Hi@all. Can anybody help with libc6-xen in dapper? What is the right thing to put in sources.list?
[06:39] <PurpZeY> nrdb: I see. Well, I don't know the answer to that q. sowee.
[06:40] <wibou> nickrud : I know... I am kind of lost too. I done at least dozen of try so far, can't get the finger on what I am missing :(
[06:40] <nickrud> tjmac, xchat doesn't come by default with ubuntu, you need to install it under add/remove
[06:40] <PurpZeY> mrdigital: I am not sure which one of these devices the tuner is.
 it doesnt say
[06:40] <Micc> what source do I use to install beryl on 7.10?
[06:40] <mrdigital> its not listed
[06:40] <PurpZeY> mrdigital: I see your sound card, video card, eth, I am not sure which is that card
[06:41] <tjmac> I dont have a edit menus option either
[06:41] <mrdigital> micc: use compvis
[06:41] <PurpZeY> Micc: beryl is not supported....you need compiz and it comes installed by default in gutsy
[06:41] <nickrud> Micc, you don't use beryl with 7.10, its abandoned software. compiz replaced it
[06:41] <tjmac> nickrud I have installed it but canot find the program
[06:41] <wibou> nickrud : right now I tried to mess with initrd so it won't include any module... I will see if this help... I'm considering weird stuff like that "maybe something does expect an initrd after all"
[06:41] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Just run it from a terminal
[06:41] <wibou> tjmac : what "it"? The gnome menu of the console?
[06:41] <PurpZeY> tjmac: xchat
[06:41] <tjmac> and the terminal command doesnt work either
[06:42] <wibou> **or the console
[06:42] <PurpZeY> tjmac: How did you install it?
[06:42] <nickrud> tjmac, are you sure you installed it?  which xchat would have said something if it was
[06:42] <AdemoS> Ubuntu 7.10 [64 bit] All internal devices function, including optical and the system harddisk. But, ONE of the harddisks will not show up in "Computer." What's crazy is, I can SEE the disk with the Hardware Info tool, but not mount it...
[06:42] <tjmac> i used add/remove programs
[06:42] <ryanmf> hey all. mac geek here on my first linux install. bought an hp pavilion pc to run a mythtv based home theatre pc, and apparently the mobo has onboard nvidia video (geforce 7100/nforce 630i) that's allegedly supported by the last few revisions of the nvidia 169.xx drivers, but i can't even get this thing to play nice for enough time to get them installed. any suggestions?
[06:42] <Christian> how can I install libc6-xen in dapper?
[06:42] <Chuckbutu> hello
[06:42] <nickrud> tjmac, ok, applications->accessories->terminal , type    xchat    in there
[06:42] <PurpZeY> ryanmf: why not deal with one issue at a time...that's a lot you laid out there.
[06:42] <tjmac> nickrud I have installed it
[06:43] <wibou> Christian : apt-get install libc6-xen ?
[06:43] <gary4gar> !!nvidia | ryanmf
[06:43] <ubotu> ryanmf: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:43] <tjmac> how do I copy paste on here, I am getting an error message
[06:43] <wibou> tjmac : how? source? apt-get? gnome menu thingy?
[06:43] <cypah>  tjmac, I'm new too and i had better luck using system/Synaptic to install and it put xchat in Applications/internet
[06:43] <tjmac> all of the above wibou
[06:43] <nickrud> tjmac, don't paste here, just give us an idea about the error
[06:44] <AdemoS> Any ideas about the harddisk issue?
[06:44] <tjmac> it says that xchat is currently not installed
[06:44] <jhford> anyone know how to get the NVidia proprietary drivers to control fan speed correctly?
[06:44] <tjmac> how is that possibe I am using it right now
[06:44] <nickrud> tjmac, then you didn't install it :)
[06:44] <Christian> thanx. but what is the right thing in sources.list? its openxchange.
[06:44] <ryanmf> gary4gar: thanks. i'll take a look at that and see where it takes me.
[06:44] <wibou> tjmac : "all of the above" ? You have 3 version of xchat or what? Are you sure it does installed correctly in any of those case?
[06:44] <tjmac> but my add/remove says its installed
[06:45] <PurpZeY> tjmac: If add/remove says it's installed you should be able to run it via apps-->internet
[06:45] <nickrud> tjmac, type this in a terminal:   apt-cache policy xchat  , and paste that on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:45] <wibou> jhford : hummm have you tried nvidia-settings tool?
[06:45] <tjmac> the error message also says that I need to enable a component called "universe"
[06:45] <jhford> wibou: yes,  i have tried coolbits and nvclock
[06:46] <wibou> jhford : your GPU is overheating I guess?
[06:46] <nickrud> tjmac, ah!   system->admin->software sources , check the first four items, uncheck the cdrom. Then do the add/remove again
[06:46] <jhford> nope
[06:46] <gary4gar> jhford, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[06:46] <jhford> wibou: it is at 43 degrees
[06:46] <nickrud> !components | tjmac
[06:46] <ubotu> tjmac: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:46] <wibou> jhford : hehe then why do you mean by "control fan correctly" ? It wakes up too often?
[06:46] <kote> jhford, my windows nvidia drivers dont even control the fan speed
[06:46] <jhford> gary4gar: which heading should i look under?
[06:46] <wibou> jhford : then **what do you mean... sorry tired.
[06:46] <jhford> wibou: it is running at 100%
[06:47] <jhford> all the time
[06:47] <kote> ah mine is stuck at 30%
[06:47] <gary4gar> jhford,  How to monitor CPU, GPU temperatures, fan speeds and voltages (GKrellM)
[06:47] <jhford> wibou: it is so loud i can't think
[06:47] <PurpZeY> jhford: Take out the baseball cards
[06:47] <jhford> ???
[06:47] <kote> lol
[06:47] <CentHOGG> yawn
[06:47] <PurpZeY> jhford: Little joke. . .ignore me
[06:47]  * nickrud chokes
[06:48] <jhford> k
[06:48] <gary4gar> jhford, check this header too,  How to control fan speed (lm-sensors)
[06:48] <tjmac> it still didnt work
[06:48] <PurpZeY> I know someone knew what I was talking about
[06:48] <PurpZeY> tjmac: What error now?
[06:48] <AdemoS> Ubuntu 7.10 [64 bit] All internal devices function, including optical and the system harddisk. But, ONE of the harddisks will not show up in "Computer." What's crazy is, I can SEE the disk with the Hardware Info tool, but not mount it...
[06:48] <wibou> jhford : yeah I can guess so... well honestly if you tried nvidia tools before I don't know... I would take a look at ACPI stuff, just in case there is not a switch you can turn off/on about it, but it just a really wide guess
[06:48] <jhford> i have been told that the drivers do work for other people, specifically those on Gentoo
[06:48] <tjmac> its installed it just doesnt show up under internet
[06:48] <jhford> good idea
[06:49] <PurpZeY> tjmac: It can take a minute
[06:49] <Christian> wibou: apt-get install libc6-xen impossible. This is my http://www.knorrc.de/sources.list . Any ideas?
[06:49] <PurpZeY> tjmac: You can try to run it from terminal
[06:49] <wibou> tjmac : if it is installed, then you SHOULD have something when typing "whereis xchat" in console... if you dont, then it's not OR the installation is incomplete
[06:49] <gary4gar> Ademan, check the output of "sudo fisk -l"
[06:50] <tjmac> it just said to enter a command to install teh program
[06:50] <AdemoS> (It's AdemoS) Thanks will do
[06:50] <scguy318> AdemoS: pastebin sudo fdisk -l
[06:50] <wibou> Christian : what do you mean impossible? Any error message?
[06:50] <nickrud> tjmac, you said it installed the first time, so  in that terminal type     apt-cache policy xchat    and paste the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org .
[06:50] <jhford> wibou: nothing in acpi or /proc/drivers/nvidia to enable it
[06:50] <tjmac> "unable to locate package xchat"
[06:51] <jhford> using the NV driver it worked fine
[06:51] <Christian> wibou: "libc6-xen could not found" (or so, it's german)
[06:51] <tjmac> is there anyway yalll can connect to my omputer?
[06:51] <AdemoS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50575/
[06:51] <nickrud> tjmac, then you didn't do the     system->admin->software sources   , check the first four items and uncheck the cdrom
[06:51] <osqay> hallo everyone
[06:51] <ToddEDM> how do i register my nickname?
[06:51] <nickrud> !register | ToddEDM
[06:51] <ubotu> ToddEDM: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[06:51] <gary4gar> AdemoS, Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
[06:51] <PurpZeY> !register | ToddEDM
[06:51] <wibou> jhford : /proc/acpi ? My laptop have some options to control fan... nothing about the GPU fan but maybe.
[06:52] <jhford> nvm, thanks for the help guys.  Read post 3 here http://www.ngohq.com/graphic-cards/13075-nvidia-linux-driver-169-07-a.html
[06:52] <tjmac> they are all checked cdrom is unchecked
[06:52] <AdemoS> gary4gar, : Yeah I saw that...but, how do I partion a empty disk?
[06:52] <jhford> wibou: yep, i have done that before on my IBM T40, but this isn't an ACPI issue
[06:52] <gary4gar> AdemoS, try gparted
[06:52] <AdemoS> ah yeah..
[06:52] <nickrud> tjmac,   in the terminal, type:   sudo apt-get update   ,  then try the install again
[06:52] <wibou> jhford : still I know that gentoo nvidia drivers are a bit strange... repatched stuff and so, pluss they might be a bit more recent than those in ubuntu if they are using "beta" stuff
[06:52] <jhford> i am not using repo drivers
[06:53] <gary4gar> !gparted | AdemoS
[06:53] <ubotu> AdemoS: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[06:53] <jhford> my card is ONLY supported in 169.07, ubuntu is 100.X
[06:53] <AdemoS> gary4gar:  I've used that to delete bad partions before, but....I don't know how to partion a blank disk
[06:53] <tjmac> ok so it is running a bunch of scripts
[06:53] <jhford> wibou: my card is ONLY supported in 169.07, ubuntu is 100.X
[06:53] <sloanesky> anyone know how to set ubuntu as the primary OS again? I tried to install windows (the install failed) and now I cant boot into ubuntu
[06:53] <tjmac> now it says "done"
[06:53] <Micc> So how do I get the cool window manager like the youtube beryl videos with 7.10? Can I do that with compiz? I have compiz installed, got the cube working, but my window manager still is gnome, looks plain.
[06:53] <nickrud> tjmac, you can do the add/remove, or  type:   sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:53] <gary4gar> AdemoS, ever check the DOCS on the GParted website?
[06:53] <kote> jhford, windows version numbers dont match with linux versions
[06:54] <ToddEDM> !flash
[06:54] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:54] <Smitius> I'm having trouble install themes that are meant for compiz. Is there a specific menu or application to configure compiz themes?
[06:54] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[06:54] <jhford> kote: i know, my card is the 8800GTS 512.  It is ONLY supported in 169.07 released Dec 20
[06:54] <tjmac> oh now its installing completely
[06:54] <nickrud> jhford, an 8800?
[06:54] <AdemoS> gary4gar: Well yeah, and I guess I could check the menus. But I just asked in case you knew off hand which menu to look for, etc.
[06:54] <jhford> nickrud 8800GTS512
[06:55] <wibou> Christian : hmmm strange, we have almost the same repo but I do get lic6-xen in the list... I assume you ran "apt-get update" first?
[06:55] <nickrud> jhford, yes you can't use the ubuntu nvidia driver, you have to get the one from the nvidia site
[06:55] <gary4gar> AdemoS, the utility is easy enough for anyone to use
[06:55] <jhford> nickrud: yep, i have them working, but there seems to be a bug in the fan control
[06:55] <nickrud> jhford, then talk to nvidia ;(
[06:55] <AdemoS> gary4gar: Alright, I'll give it a try. Thanks for your help.
[06:55] <jhford> :( and i had to remove displayconfig-gtk for it to work properly :(
[06:55] <tjmac> now xchat is installed through terminal
[06:55] <jhford> nickrud: yep, i just found that thread while i was in here
[06:56] <tjmac> but its not on the internet tab
[06:56] <Sonja> can you help me share my printer so a windows user in my house can find it on our network?
[06:56] <wibou> Christian : there, if it helps you : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50576/
[06:56] <Christian> wibou: I'm working with aptitude update, aptitude install libc6-xen. aptitude search libc6 | grep xen brings nothing.
[06:56] <nickrud> tjmac, click the menu button a couple of times, if it doesn't show up, type:  killall gnome-panel   , then check again after the panel restarts
[06:56] <jhford> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=104713
[06:57] <jhford> for anyone who is interested
[06:57] <jhford> thanks guys
[06:57] <wibou> Christian: it's founds in " http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/universe" here
[06:57] <tjmac> when I do the where is command I get a log string
[06:57] <tjmac> /usr/bin/xchat etc etc.
[06:57] <sloanesky> anyone know how I can fix it so ubuntu will boot automatically? I tried to install windows, and it froze after the first reboot and now when I try to boot up it says boot failed strike f1 to retry or f2 to enter setup
[06:58] <Christian> wibou: oh, it's gusty. It's not possible for dapper? Because it's openxchange, and I don't want upgrade it.
[06:58] <wibou> Ok, last try : Anyone here could answer a very deep question about Kernel recompilation? :)
[06:58] <PurpZeY> !grub | sloanesky
[06:58] <ubotu> sloanesky: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:58] <jhford> i hate closed source drivers :@
[06:59] <wibou> Christian : oh ok... well I really can't say. I guess you might have to upgrade distro but I really don't know for sure now.
[06:59] <nickrud> jhford, heh, if it was the nv driver, you'd be complaining about lazy open source developers ;P
[06:59] <mkquist> hey all, anyone know about dvd playback?
[06:59] <wibou> jhford : nv not working? I know nv sucks, but some people actually use this stuff :P
[06:59] <tjmac> so if the program is now installed and the where is command says its under bin than where do I find that
[06:59] <jhford> wibou, nickrud: i need opengl
[06:59] <bcasava1> Anyone up for tackling a problem between a Matrox G550 versus AGP problem?
[06:59] <nickrud> tjmac, click the menu button a couple of times, if it doesn't show up, type:  killall gnome-panel   , then check again after the panel restarts
[07:00] <nickrud> jhford, just a joke, I'm running the latest ati myself and pray every time I start up
[07:00] <jhford> also displayconfig-gtk really should allow you to select the 'nvidia' driver even if you haven't installed it from repos
[07:00] <tjmac> YAY ITS THERE!!!!!!!!!!
[07:00] <jhford> nickrud: i went through the ATI thing recently
[07:01] <wibou> jhford : hmmm I think nv can do openGL with mesa stuff, but of course, it's like twice the performance you might have with nvidia proprietary stuff
[07:01] <jhford> nickrud, it took 6 months just to have half working 2d with my X1800XT
[07:01] <nickrud> jhford, I don't know how much the 'opening' of the driver had to do with it, but I get good speed on my lowly 200m and suspend now
[07:01] <tjmac> now how do I find if Ubuntu is installed correctly or not.
[07:01] <jhford> i just find that open drivers which are maintained are soo much better than closed ones
[07:01] <jhford> they JustWork(TM)
[07:01] <doyle_> problem; nvidia PX880gt.. works with nv drivers, restricted drivers manager doesn't recognise it. Manually apt-get installing nvidia-glx-new and changing xorg.conf to use nvidia hasn't worked either. suggestions?
[07:02] <tjmac> or better yet, if it is installed or not
[07:02] <adrian__> Question: i am trying to open firefox through an ssh, because that firefox has an addon i seems to be unable to get on my regular firefox,  but it wont seem to work
[07:02] <nickrud> jhford, most of the time, open source Works for Me™
[07:02] <jhford> doyle: just did this myself.  pm me
[07:02] <jhford> haha
[07:02] <doyle_> can't. not logged in
[07:02] <jhford> ya, same, just hardware support is never good
[07:02] <jhford> oh
[07:02] <jhford> join #doylejohn
[07:02] <doyle_> norm,ally zcat here.. apparently I left myself logged in at home
[07:02] <gary4gar> adrian__, i think its don't the corrent place to ask this question, better ask the developer of the addon
[07:03] <Christian> wibou: thanx for 1st, i try it now
[07:03] <wibou> Christian : good luck :)
[07:03] <tjmac> anybody know???
[07:03] <level1> Hi, my apt is not working with me.  I try to sudo apt-get build-dep kmplayer but it E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_gutsy_commercial_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[07:03] <wibou> Oh well, need to reboot to test my all new (but potentially not working) kernel, see ya later all.
[07:03] <adrian__> gary4gar, the thing is that i am totaly unable to open firefox or any other program through an ssh
[07:03] <level1> then I try to sudo apt-get upgrade, but it Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[07:04] <nickrud> tjmac, if you're running xchat after you installed ubuntu, you have ubuntu installed
[07:04] <Disastro> how i can prevent trackerd running?
[07:04] <kote> adrian__, ssh is a shell, you cant run graphical programs
[07:04] <gary4gar> adrian__, can you ssh normally?
[07:04] <Disastro> in xubuntu
[07:04] <nickrud> Disastro, system->prefs->sessions, uncheck tracker
[07:04] <Disastro> and how to change from nautilus to thunar?
[07:04] <nickrud> Disastro, nm :)
[07:04] <tjmac> great thaks for all of your help yall, im going to restart my computer and make sure everything works.
[07:05] <gary4gar> tjmac, whats your problem ?
[07:05] <Disastro> i said xubuntu
[07:05] <adrian__> kote anyways of running a graphical program fro an other maskin?
[07:05] <evil_tech> ok i broke something apparently. grub just sits at: Grub is starting, please wait...
[07:05] <tjmac> i dont have one now
[07:05] <Disastro> where is sessions in xubuntu?
[07:05] <wibou> bye
[07:05] <gary4gar> adrian__, try VNC
[07:05] <kote> adrian__, what he said
[07:05] <adrian__> VNC, what is that?
[07:05] <gary4gar> !vnc | adrian__
[07:05] <ubotu> adrian__: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[07:06] <Disastro> how to chnge from nautilus to thunar
[07:06] <Micc> does vmware for linux have something like parallels for the mac? I mean does it have a way to run windowless?
[07:07] <bcasava1> Going twice: AGP versus Matrox G550 anyone?
[07:07] <gary4gar> Disastro, did you mean change gnome to xfce?
[07:07] <Disastro> i have both
[07:07] <Disastro> but
[07:07] <adrian__> ubotu, it says it is for opening other ubuntu, does it work with redhat (the other comp is redhat)
[07:07] <Disastro> yesterday nautilus was runt by xfce
[07:08] <Disastro> dont know why
[07:08] <tuntun> adrian__: lol!
[07:08] <gary4gar> !ubotu | adrian__,
[07:08] <Disastro> and it took 90% of cpu
[07:08] <ubotu> adrian__,: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:08] <tuntun> adrian__: lol!
[07:08] <gary4gar> adrian__, he is a bot :p
[07:08] <PurpZeY> it's a he?
[07:08] <adrian__> lol
[07:08] <kbdman> hello
[07:08] <kbdman> Thu Jan  3 05:07:56 BRST 2008
[07:08] <Disastro> and then trackerd runt and took 90% too
[07:08] <Disastro> how to disable trackerd?
[07:09] <gary4gar> Disastro, can write your question in single line?
[07:09] <Disastro> how to disable trackerd?
[07:09] <Disastro> thats the question
[07:09]  * MTeck is back
[07:09] <tjmac> Im back with one final question for the night
[07:10] <Disastro> and another question how to change from nautilus tho thunar in ubuntu?
[07:10] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Come back as needed...=)
[07:10] <tjmac> When I boot back into my mac, was is the key that I hold down that lets me choose which operating system I would like to use?
[07:11] <gary4gar> Disastro, check bug 153319
[07:11] <PurpZeY> tjmac: I'm not sure how that works with macs...with windows machines grub creates a bootloader that gives you a choice....I'd guess apple key or tab
[07:11] <PurpZeY> but that's a total guess
[07:11] <gary4gar> !bug #153319
[07:11] <Disastro> does opera and swiftweasel take less cpu than firefox?
[07:12] <Disastro> found it
[07:12] <bcasava1> Maybe the third time's the charm.  Matrox G550, xorg, and UbuntuStudio 7.10.  Using "vesa" driver, everything comes up fine.  Using "mga" driver, I only get a black screen.  DVI output to a Samsung SyncMaster 930B flatpanel.  When using mga, X reports "(EE) MGA(0): [agp] AGP not available
[07:12] <gary4gar> Disastro, this is the bug link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tracker/ +bug/153319
[07:13] <PurpZeY> bcasava1: Sounds like that's the wrong driver
[07:14] <bcasava1> PurpZeY.  Nope, it's the right driver.  "mga" driver works fine under FreeBSD 6.2.  Googling this gets some nonsense about agpgart, but rmmod'ing the entire agp, drm, and mga kernel module stack then reloading does no good.
[07:15] <kbdman> I LOVE UBUNTU!
[07:15] <Disastro> so i need to remove trackerd or kill it every boot?
[07:15] <mypapit> wtf
[07:15] <kbdman> I came from slackware, but I am in love of Ubuntu!
[07:15] <kbdman> Congratulations for your GREAT system!
[07:16] <tjmac> darn mac they make it so difficult
[07:16] <gary4gar> bcasava1, check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/MatroxParhelia
[07:16] <Disastro> but i cant remove it :) need to search
[07:16] <nickrud> Disastro, try asking on #xubuntu
[07:16] <PurpZeY> bcasava1: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Matrox
[07:16] <penos> i just had a thought
[07:16] <penos> if you keep your monitoring activities a secret
[07:16]  * MTeck is back
[07:17] <penos> then you can manipulate how much information to let out
[07:17] <bcasava1> gary4gar: tnx.  I'll give it a try.
[07:17] <penos> and after some data you can predict the response by differing levels of information hiding
[07:17] <Christian> wibou: E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_gutsy_universe_binary-i386_Packages :-(
[07:18] <bcasava1> PurpZeY: Was there something on that page in particular that might be applicable?
[07:18] <PurpZeY> bcasava1: That it's a freeware driver made for your card
[07:19] <Disastro> does opera take less cpu than firefox?
[07:19] <tjmac> does anyone have a link that may talk about mac and linux?
[07:19] <PurpZeY> Just a thought upon some forum searching
[07:19] <PurpZeY> !mac
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <AdemoS> gary4gar: I used Gparted, with a ext2 filesystem. But I wasn't able to get write access when I rebooted, and I wasn't able to name the drive. I'm willing to read up on this, but if you or anyone knows off hand options I need to use, it would be a big help
[07:20] <Disastro> tjmax: what you mean?
[07:20] <adrian__> gary4gar, i tried to install it, but it doesn't seem to work, how do i uninstall it in a good way?
[07:20] <gary4gar> adrian__, you want to remove gparted?
[07:20] <adrian__> i used sudo apt-get install vnc-common tightvncserver
[07:20] <tjmac> disastro: I cant boot back intoUbuntu in my mac, even if I hold teh option key down
[07:20] <adrian__> i wanna remove it
[07:21] <PurpZeY> tjmac: You definitely installed and partitioned and all that, weren't just running liveCD?
[07:21] <Disastro> tjmac: so you have mac and ubuntu dual-boot and you can only boot to mac?
[07:21] <adrian__> and i hate doing an rm, command, because i do not know what references it has
[07:21] <gary4gar> adrian__, its simple , replace install with remove
[07:21]  * tuntun concerned that compiz with lock up the system again
[07:22] <tjmac> yeah disastro, and I did install the full ersion of ubuntu, my hard drive shows it as used
[07:22] <PurpZeY> Disastro: He just can't access his ubuntu partition when booting
[07:22]  * MTeck is back
[07:23] <jhford> what is the program you use to enable all the cool compiz plugins
[07:23] <PurpZeY> jhford: CCSM
[07:23] <Disastro> sry i can't help
[07:23] <jhford> ccsm?
[07:23] <jhford> !ccsm
[07:23] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[07:23] <Ome> Hello EveryOne :)
[07:23] <Disastro> how can i manage sessions in xubuntu?
[07:23] <jhford> does this go under system-pref/admin or applications?
[07:24] <tjmac> I am oing to try one more time, ill be right back
[07:24] <PurpZeY> jhford: system
[07:24] <jhford> thanks!
[07:24] <gary4gar> adrian__, then use synaptic, which is GUI
[07:24] <gary4gar> !synaptic > adrian__
[07:24] <adrian__> i got it away with sudo apt-get remove vnc-common tightvncserver
[07:24] <adrian__> :)
[07:25] <gary4gar> adrian__,err  then dude what i said?
[07:25] <PurpZeY> gary4gar: yes.
[07:25] <tjmac> yeah my partitions are there and everything but I cant boot into linux
[07:26] <adrian__> thanks for the help, today i learned the the sudo apt -get install also can be used as sudo apt -get remove ?, am i right
[07:26] <gary4gar> PurpZeY, yes for?
[07:26] <PurpZeY> tjmac: There has to be a mac option key that gives you the option to boot on to the ubuntu partition
[07:26] <AdemoS> If I'm using Gparted to partion a new drive, which filesystem would I want for just a basic storage drive? And how might I label it?
[07:26] <PurpZeY> gary4gar: for that he did what you said
[07:26] <adrian__> (if i wanna remove something installed)
[07:26] <Myrtti> IMB: do you have any particular reason to change your nick more often than I do my socks?
[07:27] <tjmac> yeah , I hold it down and the disk drives dont show up like on this link
[07:27] <Myrtti> !away > IMB
[07:27] <user11_011> !apt-cdrom
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-cdrom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <gary4gar> adrian__, for more information check "man apt-get"
[07:27] <adrian__> :)
[07:27] <evgeni> does anybody know how to set screen resolution for the login screen ( I know how to do it once i logged in)?
[07:27] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Check the forums ** or wait until there is a mac guy around...there is something really simple we just don't know
[07:27] <user11_011> does anyone knows how to add remote cdrom by apt-cdrom and include it in sources.list
[07:27] <tuntun> !hardy
[07:27] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[07:28] <tuntun> !gutsy
[07:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[07:28] <tjmac> How do I choose the operating system that starts up (boots) my Mac?
[07:28] <tjmac> After running Boot Camp Assistant and installing Microsoft Windows and the Boot Camp Drivers, hold the Option (Alt) key when you start up to switch between Microsoft Windows and Mac OS X. Use the Startup Disk control panel in Windows or Mac OS X Startup Disk preferences to set the default operating system to use each time the computer starts up.
[07:28] <PurpZeY> tjmac: I believe you want grub as your bootloader.
[07:29] <tjmac> How do I load that
[07:29] <PurpZeY> tjmac: I don't want to direct you in the wrong direction..........
[07:29] <musashi> tjmac, sorry to drive you off. i thought you were someone else and was joking around. anyway, i just heard from someone else in the channel that you were looking in #colorado for someone who was using ubuntu on a mac. I was one of two i know of but no expert by any means.
[07:29] <bezibaerchen> hey guys. what is the driver / the tool of choice to read an usb hdd formatted with ext3 under windows xp?
[07:29] <gary4gar> user11_011, insert the cd rom & type "sudo apt-cdrom add"
[07:29] <tjmac> Musashi, did you use boot camp to load Ubunut onto your mac?
[07:29] <level1> Hi, how do I download a single .deb file from the ubuntu repositories without actually adding that repo?
[07:30] <PurpZeY> tjmac: I know w/ windows, windows will eat the boot loader, an there is a fix.
[07:30] <user11_011> gary4gar : its a cdrom on a remote machine!!!
[07:30] <rodolfo> !intel
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <musashi> tjmac, yeah
[07:30] <function1> does esd block out simple alsa output?
[07:30] <tjmac> how is everyon highlighting my name in a respose on here?
[07:30] <gary4gar> user11_011, then you could do it via samba
[07:30] <gary4gar> !samba
[07:30] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[07:30] <PurpZeY> tjmac: autocomplete.
[07:30] <musashi> tjmac, just use their name
[07:31] <tjmac> ok cool
[07:31] <gary4gar> leagris, why you want to do that?
[07:31] <tjmac> musashi: how do I boot into Ubuntu when I turn on my mac?
[07:32] <user11_011> gary4gar: right . i have mounted it on my /media/cdrom/192.168.x.x/...     but i need to make an entry in sources.list so that apt-get recognises it. i tried with deb:cdrom[cdrom_label]/ but didnt work
[07:32] <musashi> hold the ctrl or alt key. i forget which as i almost never use it
[07:32] <ruby> h......
[07:32] <tjmac> see , i do that and nothing happens
[07:32] <ruby> oh.....
[07:33] <tjmac> is there a way that I can check on my hard drive that it is installed>
[07:33] <musashi> tjmac,  hold it when you first start
[07:33] <gary4gar> user11_011,read man apt-cdrom
[07:33] <tjmac> because i went through the install, and it said it installed
[07:33] <musashi> tjmac, did you use boot camp to make the "windows" partition and then install ubuntu?
[07:33] <PurpZeY> tjmac: If you went through the install and all that. . .
[07:33] <tjmac> so I hold down the option key when it first starts
[07:33] <function1> does anyone here use puredata?
[07:33] <musashi> tjmac, one of them. sorry i don't remember which
[07:33] <tjmac> yes I did musashi
[07:33] <AdemoS> ...well, I'll try ext3 instead of ex2, but I can't seem to find a reliable guide for such a simple task
[07:34] <gary4gar> Ademan, is it a new HDD?
[07:34] <musashi> tjmac, then one of those keys should open the boot camp menu and let you select ubuntu (although it's called "windows")
[07:34] <gary4gar> AdemoS,  is it a new HDD?
[07:34] <jhford> how do i add another workspace to gnome, i seem to have forgotten hoe
[07:34] <jhford> *how
[07:34] <PurpZeY> tjmac: I think that's the issue, "windows" is ubuntu
[07:34] <AdemoS> gary4gar: Yes
[07:35] <tjmac> ok so should I hold down the key and keep it pressed before I turn on the computer, or right after?
[07:35] <gary4gar> AdemoS, which company?
[07:35] <AdemoS> gary4gar, Seagate
[07:35] <musashi> tjmac, right after but hold until you see the menu
[07:36] <gary4gar> AdemoS, try this perhaps: http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=DiscWizard&vgnextoid=d9fd4a3cdde5c010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD
[07:36] <tjmac> okay im going to give it a try, will be right back
[07:36] <PurpZeY> musashi: I don't think he caught the "windows" is ubuntu bit
[07:36] <tuntun> user11_011: i'm assuming you've tried synaptic>settings>repositories>third-party-software>add
[07:37] <AdemoS> gary4gar, Only has Windows and Mac, I was hoping for a Linux guide because I'm trying to get away from both of those platforms
[07:37] <musashi> PurpZeY, no. maybe not. we'll see
[07:37] <gary4gar> Ademan, see if there a bootable tool
[07:38] <AdemoS> gary4gar, well, gparted works fine, I just don't know which filesystem to use for basic storage
[07:38] <tjmac> nope didnt happe
[07:38] <tjmac> n
[07:38] <gary4gar> AdemoS, ext3?
[07:38] <user11_011> tuntun: not at all . it still expects a disk on local machine. i did a smbmount onto /media/cdrom and got it but even apt-cdrom not able to add it
[07:38] <musashi> tjmac, did anything happen? which key did you use
[07:38] <AdemoS> gary4gar, Trying that now
[07:38] <tjmac> my manual for boot camp says to use option, but nothing happened
[07:38] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Did you try selecting "windows"?
[07:39] <tjmac> it didnt even come up as an option
[07:39] <PurpZeY> tjmac: try alt, try ctrl
[07:39] <gary4gar> AdemoS, infact ext2+ journals support = ext3
[07:39] <musashi> tjmac, so you held the "right" button for a long time and OSX just booted?
[07:40] <AdemoS> gary4gar, it finished formating to ext3, but now it's no longer listed in Computer. Should I reboot first?
[07:40] <musashi> tjmac, yeah, i just don't remember which one. i was always trying several before i got it. didn't use it enough to remember.
[07:40] <tuntun> user11_011: well you can make an iso of your the repos with APTonCD and transfer it to the other computer and then use APTonCD again to add it as a source
[07:40] <tjmac> yup thats what happened
[07:40] <gary4gar> Ademan, do a sudo moun -a
[07:40] <gary4gar> Ademan, do a sudo mount -a
[07:40] <musashi> tjmac, are you sure you are using the "correct" button? try them all. one of 'em should work.
[07:41] <tjmac> ill try be right back
[07:41] <AdemoS> gary4gar, hmm no response after using that command
[07:41] <fwaokda> anyone here have a Amazon Kindle?
[07:42] <gary4gar> Ademan, post the output of fdisk -l
[07:42] <user11_011> tuntun: its like beating around the bush!!. well i have a cdrom which is in a machine next to me . i need an entry which looks there. i think it should not be such difficult to again make a iso and use it.
[07:42] <aram> can any one help with printer?
[07:43] <AdemoS> gary4gar, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50577/
[07:44] <gary4gar> AdemoS, its done, now you just need to put its entry in /etc/fstab
[07:44] <tuntun> user11_011: "its like beating around the bush!!". Yeah, it can be like that sometimes :P
[07:44] <aram> can any one help with printer?
[07:44] <PurpZeY> !anyone | aram
[07:44] <ubotu> aram: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:44] <AdemoS> gary4gar, sorry, but I don't know what you mean by "put its entry in"
[07:44] <doyle_> jhford, Woot!!! Got it!!!
[07:45] <jhford> doyle_ Awesome, did you remove that package i was telling you about?
[07:45] <doyle_> yep
[07:45] <gary4gar> Ademan, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:45] <jhford> awesome news!
[07:45] <AdemoS> gary4gar, thanks
[07:45] <doyle_> will make a backup of the working xorg.conf just in case
[07:45] <jhford> good call
[07:46] <doyle_> doing 200m of updates now.. hopefully that won't break anything
[07:46] <user11_011> tuntun: lets take a simple example of a line in sources.list . "deb cdrom:[ubuntu_cd_label]  gutsy main" i just need a remote cdrom . is there no way i can point to it
[07:46] <AdemoS> gary4gar, command inputed, gedit open. Now where do I get the entry, and where do I put it?
[07:47] <gary4gar> Ademan, you can use UUID
[07:47] <AdemoS> gary4gar, oooh I think I figured it out
[07:47] <gary4gar> !UUID
[07:47] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[07:48] <AdemoS> gary4gar, Hmm, guess I was wrong. I see the UUID in the config file, but I don't know where to get the new UUID from
[07:48] <gary4gar> Ademan,  sudo blkid
[07:49] <tuntun> user11_011: I'm no expert with the repos, but some problems should and shouldn't be persued thru irc -- i would be confidant that you would get the answer with a bit, or alot, of googling, because your problem is relatively esoteric.
[07:49] <Christian> !torrents
[07:49] <ubotu> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can!
[07:50] <AdemoS> gary4gar, do I need any other info? the other two entries (hard disk and optical) have more in that file
[07:52] <gary4gar> Ademan, it should look like
[07:52] <gary4gar> # /dev/sda7
[07:52] <gary4gar> UUID=7b52584b-f68b-4902-b8cd-f6628e8de078 /home           ext3    defaults        0       2
[07:52] <gary4gar> AdemoS, just change the UUID & mount point
[07:53] <AdemoS> gary4gar, thanks, though my UUID output was different, I'll use yours. Mount point?
[07:53] <makuseru> what will open a .xls file?
[07:53] <gary4gar> Ademan, no, use the UUID given by your system,
[07:54] <Myrtti> nalioth: gnumeric might, openoffice calc most definitely will
[07:54]  * tuntun senses trouble with words like "my UUID output was different, I'll use yours"
[07:54] <AdemoS> gary4gar, my system game me
[07:54] <AdemoS> UUID="82921fe9-2225-4540-a36a-61d1c350d17b" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
[07:54] <AdemoS> *gave
[07:54] <gary4gar> Ademan, mount point = the location where you want the drive to me, like /media/newhdd
[07:54] <Myrtti> erm
[07:54] <AdemoS> gary4gar, okay, how do I set that up?
[07:54] <Myrtti> makuseru: gnumeric, openoffice calc
[07:55] <Myrtti> nalioth: nvm
[07:55] <fotoflo> hmm ive just installed ubuntu but i cant use elm or pine
[07:55] <fotoflo> apt-get cant install them either
[07:55] <gary4gar> Ademan, create a folder, like mkdir /media/<anyname>
[07:55] <Myrtti> fotoflo: pine isn't floss, so it's not installable by default
[07:55] <musashi> AdemoS, sorry to but in, but make sure you use the UUID for YOUR system. not someone elses. it's a unique identifier.
[07:56] <mkquist> hey all, anyone know how to get ubuntu gibbon to recognize dvds?
[07:56] <Myrtti> !dvd | mkquist
[07:56] <ubotu> mkquist: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:56] <mkquist> having a prob with that...  already installed all from medibuntu...
[07:56] <tuntun> gary4gar: you may like to direct AdemoS to http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html if it wouldbe of assistance.
[07:56] <AdemoS> musashi, not at all, I welcome all help. Does the UUID  look right?
[07:56] <dman> how painful is a 7.04 to 7.10 upgrade?
[07:56] <Novalty> Ok, im confused. I have installed KDE so that my ubuntu distro can access my windows pc. And that works great. And when i try to access the ubuntu distro from my windows pc, i get a logon screen with username and password. I was guessing this would be for ubuntu, so i tried that, and it didnt work. Any help?
[07:56] <dman> using the server method
[07:57] <Myrtti> dman: fully depends on what you've done between installing 7.04 and now
[07:57] <musashi> AdemoS, i missed it but if it's an ugly long number then it's probably right
[07:57] <AdemoS> UUID="82921fe9-2225-4540-a36a-61d1c350d17b" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
[07:57] <Myrtti> dman: and how you're going to do your update
[07:57] <musashi> AdemoS, yeah, like that
[07:57] <dman> Myrtti: i was thinking with update-manager-core
[07:58] <AdemoS> musashi, thanks
[07:58] <mkquist> musashi: ty ill check it again
[07:58] <musashi> AdemoS, sure thing. i'm not sure what you want to do but hope it helps
[07:59] <mkquist> Myrtti: sry meant for u.. ty ill check it again
[07:59] <musashi> mkquist, try what?
[07:59] <Myrtti> musashi: nvm
[07:59] <musashi> mkquist, oh i see
[07:59] <gary4gar> AdemoS, put this in fstab "UUID="82921fe9-2225-4540-a36a-61d1c350d17b /media/downloads ext3    defaults        0       2"
[07:59] <Myrtti> ;-)
[08:00] <AdemoS> gary4gar, thank you, trying now
[08:00] <gary4gar> Ademan, also do this, sudo mkdir /media/downloads
[08:01] <AdemoS> gary4gar, how do I get the terminal to the other disk?
[08:02] <gary4gar> Ademan, i didn't get you?
[08:02] <gary4gar> Ademan, did you try sudo moint -a?
[08:02] <AdemoS> gary4gar, sorry nevermind about that
[08:02] <AdemoS> gary4gar, yes, it said
[08:02] <gary4gar> said what?
[08:03] <AdemoS> trying to paste now
[08:04] <AdemoS> got it
[08:04] <AdemoS> mount: special device UUID="82921fe9-2225-4540-a36a-61d1c350d17b does not exist
[08:06] <gary4gar> Ademan, give the output of sudo blkid
[08:07] <AdemoS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50579/
[08:07] <tuntun> whats the best way to backup ones firefox profile?
[08:08] <rake> When I do apt-get install eclipse   I get a "cannot find package eclipse" even though ubuntuguide says exactly that command
[08:08] <gary4gar> AdemoS, try sudo mount -t ext3  /dev/sdb1 /media/downloads
[08:09] <AdemoS> gary4gar, tried, no result, just went to the next line
[08:09] <gary4gar> Ademan, cool, now check /media/downloads
[08:09] <AdemoS> mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/storage busy
[08:09] <AdemoS> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/storage
[08:09] <tuntun> rake: why not try with a gui?
[08:10] <tuntun> rake: ie synaptic
[08:10] <AdemoS> (I used storage instead of downloads)
[08:10] <rake> tuntun: because CLI is supposed to be easier.
[08:10] <rake> faster.
[08:11] <gary4gar> AdemoS, open the storage folder
[08:11] <AdemoS> well I tried to drag a shortcut into that folder media/storage and said "no permission"
[08:11] <underwatercow> does ubuntu come with an archiver that supports multipart rar files?
[08:11] <gary4gar> AdemoS, chmod 755 /media/storage
[08:11] <tuntun> rake: you should try synaptic, its very easy
[08:11] <ahaswell> rake: is eclipse in your package list?  Check apt-cache search eclipse to find out
[08:11] <Slart> underwatercow: you can use rar
[08:12] <ahaswell> tuntun: CLI should be encouraged!
[08:12] <underwatercow> Slart: does that have GUI frontend?
[08:12] <Slart> underwatercow: you'll have to install rar.. or was it unrar first..
[08:12] <gary4gar> underwatercow, install unrar
[08:12] <Slart> underwatercow: file-roller uses rar automagically
[08:12] <rake> tuntun: I'm sure of that, I just don't want to have to rely on a GUI to install an application (sorry I come from portage)
[08:12] <underwatercow> gary4gar, Slart: thanks
[08:12] <Slart> you're welcome, underwatercow
[08:13] <gary4gar> :)
[08:13] <scguy318> rake: what's up?
[08:13] <tuntun> rake: no, thats, dogma. CLI will always have its role.
[08:15] <rake> scguy318: ?
[08:15] <AdemoS> gary4gar, used it with sudo, folder still has no permission ---- also I don't see the disk in Computer
[08:15] <scguy318> rake: what were you asking about?
[08:15] <gary4gar> AdemoS, first you need you put its entry in etc/fstab
[08:16] <AdemoS> gary4gar, I thought I did...will double check
[08:16] <rake> scguy318: I can't seem to find eclipse using apt-get
[08:16] <Sonja> can you help me share my printer so a windows user in my house can find it on our network?
[08:16] <AdemoS> gary4gar, yeah it's there
[08:17] <georgie> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[08:17] <AdemoS> gary4gar, and saved
[08:17] <scguy318> rake: your universe repo enabled?
[08:17] <scguy318> !ops | georgie
[08:17] <ubotu> georgie: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[08:17] <gary4gar> AdemoS, when you do that check with mount -a, if it gives any errors , then you haven't done it corrently
[08:17] <AdemoS> gary4gar, okay trying that
[08:17] <scguy318> oh, already gone
[08:17] <scguy318> thanks nalioth
[08:17] <WEW> I installed 7zip from Add/remove programs. How do I run it?
[08:17] <AdemoS> mount: special device UUID="82921fe9-2225-4540-a36a-61d1c350d17b does not exist
[08:17] <AdemoS> what does that mean?
[08:17] <rake> scguy318: How would I check? (sorry, I come from another distro)
[08:17] <tuntun> whats the best way to backup ones firefox profile?
[08:18] <AdemoS> it's the correct UUID from blkid
[08:18] <scguy318> rake: /etc/apt/sources.list is the file you want to look in
[08:18] <gary4gar> AdemoS, you used wrong uuid
[08:18] <AdemoS> hmm
[08:18] <ehc> is there a command that will allow me to send a message to a mac computer on my LAN
[08:18] <scguy318> rake: see !source-o-matic for regeneration
[08:18] <norv> WEW: I believe it's p7zip
[08:18] <ahaswell> rake: do you have the universe repository active?
[08:18] <unikon>  Is there any way  to stop unknown tor connections  on my pc
[08:18] <WEW> norv: i typed p7zip in terminal and it says it's not installed. But in add/remove program, it says installed
[08:19] <gary4gar> Ademan, ok forget UUID, try /dev/sdb1 in place of it
[08:19] <scguy318> rake: after editing your sources, sudo apt-get update
[08:19] <rake> scguy318: what am I looking for in that file?
[08:19] <norv> WEW: hmm, perhaps that's only the library.. 7zip GUI version doesn't exist for linux
[08:19] <scguy318> rake: you probably want to uncomment a deb line for universe
[08:19] <tuntun> whats the best way to backup ones firefox profile?
[08:20] <scguy318> rake: well, the *lines for universe
[08:20] <scguy318> !info eclipse
[08:20] <rake> scguy318: looks like I'm using the two restricted lines right now
[08:20] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-3ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 125 kB, installed size 412 kB
[08:20] <gary4gar> tuntun, just save the ~.firefox dir
[08:20] <rake> could that be the problem?
[08:20] <ahaswell> tuntun: tar up your .firefox directory I suppose
[08:20] <Gate_Laptop> tuntun: zip up the .mozilla folder in your home directory
[08:20] <scguy318> rake: uncomment the lines for universe
[08:20] <rake> scguy318: should I comment the two restricted ones as well?
[08:20] <AdemoS> I have that there # /dev/sdb1
[08:20] <AdemoS> UUID="82921fe9-2225-4540-a36a-61d1c350d17b" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
[08:20] <scguy318> rake: don't need to
[08:21] <AdemoS> uncomment it?
[08:21] <tuntun> gary4g arahaswell Gate_Laptop: the verdict is unanimous! :)
[08:21] <gary4gar> Ademan, post your /etc/fstab file please
[08:21] <norv> WEW: sudo aptitude install p7zip.. I believe that's just the extractor though
[08:22] <Gate_Laptop> tuntun: the verdict is back up the folder :) in mine it is .mozilla, but it might be different on different versions
[08:22] <skwi> hello
[08:22] <norv> WEW: err, p7zip-full.. that has everything
[08:22] <Gate_Laptop> hi
[08:23] <skwi> i search a tools like inotofy/dnotify to know when a software/script is execute in a directory
[08:23] <WEW> norv it has no GUI?
[08:23] <tuntun> gary4gar: curios: why are you calling AdemoS Ademan?
[08:23] <rake> scguy318: E: Couldn't find package eclipse           =\   This is after the apt-get update
[08:23] <CrackOrcad> I wrote a SMTP Server , and I wanna run it as Background Process for Ubuntu Server like apache and other server component , what i have to do ?
[08:24] <scguy318> !source-o-matic | rake
[08:24] <ubotu> rake: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:24] <scguy318> rake: try doing that then sudo apt-get update again of course
[08:24] <tuntun> rake: have you enabled the universe/multiverse repos (if applicable)
[08:24] <tuntun> gary4gar: curios: why are you calling AdemoS Ademan?
[08:24] <WEW> Other than Archive Manager, what else I can use to unrar
[08:24] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: if you just need to run a process long term in the background you can use the "nohup" command
[08:25] <CrackOrcad> Gate_laptop thanks fo ryour help
[08:25] <MartinW> What joysticks work well with Linux?
[08:25] <skwi> i search a tools like inotofy/dnotify to know when a software/script is execute in a directory || when i use dnotify -A ... if i do sh script.sh everything is allright count++ , but when i use ./script.sh or script.sh i have count+=3
[08:25] <skwi> (( -A is when we want know access on file ))
[08:26] <rake> scguy318: Aha, no you were right, I uncommented the universal security lines at the very end, wrong thing. It's working now that I uncommented the right thing.
[08:26] <rake> scguy318: so what's the idea behind restricting certain software from users? To keep the source lists smaller?
[08:26] <norv> WEW: no, some archiver might have a gui and 7zip support but I doubt it. there /is/ a 7zip ioslave, but that requires KDE and Konqueror
[08:27] <erb_> When I try to wget some URLs (like http://google.com), it doesn't download the images, etc - it only downloads the html. I am using the command: 'wget -r 1 -p -nH -nd -Ptest "http://google.com"'. Here is my output: http://pastebin.com/d2c221032
[08:27] <WEW> norv I need something for gnome
[08:28] <Gate_Laptop> erb_: wget is a simple downloader, only getting the file you ask for, not interpreting the HTML and looking for images like a web browser
[08:29] <LuCypher> Hi
[08:29] <LuCypher> I've installed and started firestarter, now I have a lot of messages in dmesg and /var/log/messages
[08:30] <norv> WEW: if you must have a GUI tool, there is PeaZip (google it, it's not in repository)
[08:30] <AdemoS> gary4gar, says I should reboot
[08:30] <AdemoS> in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3907715&postcount=3
[08:30] <LuCypher> how can I have a "quiet" mode?
[08:30] <WEW> norv okay, thanks :)
[08:30] <user11_011> my sources.list looks only for i386 packages (i have a generic installed on 64 bit amd). Now i need to install a 64 bit kernel for installing a vmware server .how do i accomplish that.
[08:30] <nickrud> WEW, I think file-roller supports zip; anyway xarchive does , if you have p7zip-fill installed iirc
[08:31] <WEW> nickrud I need for .rar files, not .zip
[08:31] <nickrud> WEW, er, that was 7zip with file-roller
[08:31] <WEW> okay
[08:31] <LuCypher> user11_011 : do you have linux-image-generic?
[08:31] <WEW> I'll try that too
[08:31] <user11_011> LuCypher: yes
[08:31] <Gate_Laptop> erb_: hm, I didn't know about the -r option. maybe try dropping the -nH?
[08:31] <norv> WEW: oh, i thought you like needed 7zip for 7zip.. heh
[08:31] <nickrud> WEW, then install unrar , file-roller will use it also
[08:31] <LuCypher> I think is enough for you
[08:32] <WEW> norv: No, i searched for rar in add/remove programs, and 7zip showed up
[08:32] <LuCypher> How can I set iptables to quiet mode?
[08:32] <dman> if im using 7.04 can i use 7.10 in my apt sources and just upgrade some packages?
[08:32] <nickrud> WEW, you should probably explore system->admin->synaptic , it references more software than add/remove
[08:33] <AdemoS> trying a reboot now
[08:33] <AmbienNOD> is there a way in the konsole to output some statistics on sent and recieved data over the network
[08:33] <nickrud> dman, not recommended or easy to limit to 'just a few'
[08:33] <dman> AmbienNOD: iptraf
[08:33] <makuseru> is there any way to do desktop sharing between a computer with ubuntu and osx?
[08:33] <WEW> nickrud it says I have file-roller already installed..
[08:34] <nickrud> WEW, install unrar , then doubleclick an rar file
[08:34] <rkj> Hey quick question: If I have an ipod that shows up in Nautilus in 'Places' as IPOD, what's the command line to unmount it? I tried just "umount IPOD" and got an error "IPOD is not mounter (according to mtab)"
[08:34] <WEW> nickrud: Okay, that's archive manager.. I need something else. It shows an error in some rar files
[08:34] <th0r> AmbienNOD that information is available through snmp, but it is not a simple process
[08:34] <Jowi> makuseru, VNC is the standard way
[08:34] <Jowi> !vnc | makuseru
[08:34] <ubotu> makuseru: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[08:34] <Smegzo1> My entire computer (ubuntu 64) keeps freezing up solid (hard reboot required) when I try to copy 8Gb of files from my file server to the pc that freezes.  The network share I am copying from is an nfs share.  It's done it twice in a row and both times it did it at 36% copied.  What could be causing this?
[08:34] <nickrud> WEW, have you installed unrar yet?
[08:34] <WEW> nickrud yes
[08:34] <nickrud> WEW, ah, then try the p7zip-full
[08:35] <nickrud> WEW, or   rar e <file>
[08:35] <CrackOrcad> if I execute an app with nohup command , after servers' restart  that would run?
[08:35] <user11_011> i tried installing vmware ( 64 bit ) on my generic gutsy but when i type "vmware" it says to type man vmware for more information.
[08:35] <WEW> nickrud they are .r01 .r02 .r03 etc
[08:36] <norv> WEW: oh, partials
[08:36] <nickrud> user11_011, try adding deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner to /etc/apt/sources.list , then installing vmware from the repos.
[08:36] <WEW> yeah, though normally they work in archive manager, some files don't
[08:36] <Jowi> WEW, you need the nonfree unrar and then extract with "unrar x file.rar"
[08:36] <rkj> It's a really easy question for somebody who knows what they're doing.
[08:37] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: no, you would need to add a boot script for it to do that
[08:37] <user11_011> nickrud: i will try it
[08:37] <user11_011> thnx
[08:37] <interceptor> !ru
[08:37] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[08:37] <CrackOrcad> Gate_laptop can you give me an script for that?
[08:37] <th0r> rkj umount /media/IPOD
[08:38] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: the easiest way to do it is to add the command to rc.local
[08:38] <th0r> rkj you need to sudo it or run it as root
[08:38] <CrackOrcad> is this what apache and some other application does?
[08:38] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: do "sudo gedit /etc/rc.local"
[08:38] <rkj> th0r thanks for the ubuntu! I feel more human already.
[08:38] <AmbienNOD> do they make a ubuntu dvd?
[08:38] <Gate_Laptop> no, apache does it in the proper way, but that is more complex and I would have to look it up
[08:39] <Gate_Laptop> rc.local is a script that gets run when the system finishes booting
[08:39] <Conny> Hello.
[08:39] <gpm> hi
[08:40] <_mug> morning
[08:40] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: what apache does is adds itself to the boot levels (/etc/rc0 [...]  /etc/rc6) and a starter script in /etc/init.d/
[08:40] <keram> anyone know what the designated values of the d_type member of struct dirent are?
[08:40] <Conny> Are there differences of "makefile" in ubuntu and kubuntu?
[08:41] <Conny> I never made a "makefile" operation of a sourcecode.
[08:41] <Gate_Laptop> Conny:  no
[08:41] <norv> Conny: all "Makefile"s are run by make so no
[08:41] <CrackOrcad> gate_laptop so make such application is so complicated:D
[08:41] <_mug> gutsy has a folder called "public" ("öffentlich" in german, i hope i translated it correctly) in each homedir. what is it for? is it automaticcaly shared if sambe or nfs is installed? or for www?
[08:41] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: not neccecarily, but I have only done it once, long ago
[08:41] <CrackOrcad> that is so easy in windows
[08:41] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: I am trying to look up how to do it now, but like I said, rc.local is the easy way to remember
[08:42] <Conny> ok
[08:42] <imaginator> keram: see the dirent.h header file.  they all have a DT_ prefix
[08:42] <imaginator> oops too late
[08:42] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: if you don't mind wasting a server's resources with a GUI you can make alot of things into buttons :)
[08:42] <th0r> _mug if you are talking about public_html it is the default directory for the website www.hostname/username
[08:43] <CrackOrcad> :)) ha haha , when sessions are close no GUI is run
[08:43] <Smegzo1> Does anyone know what might cause a simple network file copy to lock up the entire pc?
[08:43] <AmbienNOD> i will not ever upgrade or go back to windows, you know it even defrags in the background now
[08:43] <AmbienNOD> how annoying is that
[08:43] <imaginator> Smegzo1: most likely a bad driver, or a broken file system (that is full)
[08:44] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: the boot levels route adds alot of power, since the kernel can be told to start different ways it picks which runlevel to execute
[08:44] <imaginator> Smegzo1: or bad hardware
[08:44] <ahaswell> AmbienNOD: that's the beauty of linux - you can choose what happens and when :)
[08:44] <Gate_Laptop> so if a computer is booted into rescue (single user mode) it won't start something like apache or some such
[08:44] <Smegzo1> 8.5gig free and 65gig free.  probably not full then
[08:44] <norv> Well, ext3 defragments while live, right?
[08:44] <AmbienNOD> think of this you a buy a high speed computer and goto play a game and the dam thing stalls, you have to goto services and shutdown half of the 150 services that are running, now you think a kid is going to know how to do that?
[08:44] <CrackOrcad> you code set those stuff in windows aswell
[08:44] <CrackOrcad> code = can
[08:45] <Smegzo1> hmm..  well its never done this before today and all the hardware is new (1 month old) though that doesn't mean it can't be bad.
[08:45] <imaginator> Smegzo1: do you see any messages in your dmesg?
[08:45] <Jowi> norv, ext3 does not need to defrag
[08:45] <Sonja> _mug there is also #ubuntu-de
[08:45] <AmbienNOD> only think that looks different anyway is the start button is round
[08:45] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: I am not suprised in the least, it just makes sense :)
[08:45] <Smegzo1> haven't looked.  i'm an ex-windows user so i might need to be told where to look.
[08:46] <CrackOrcad> whatever
[08:46] <imaginator> norv: ext3 has better algorithms than say NTFS, so it coallesces disk blocks automatically when possible at the cost of some write speed.  NTFS is much lazier about it.
[08:46] <AmbienNOD> people are starting to like mac anyway too and after this i definitly believe people will be using mac and linux more often
[08:47] <Conny> In what folder should I "make" files?
[08:47] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: you may find this informative http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Runlevels
[08:47] <scguy318> rake: a bit late but to restrict the sorts of software a user wants
[08:47] <AmbienNOD> micosoft should just get out of the os market and just make microsoft office products.
[08:47] <th0r> Conny the folder that contains the Makefile
[08:47] <CrackOrcad> ambienNod not most of peoples (94%) using windows
[08:47] <scguy318> AmbienNOD: not even that :P
[08:47] <Pie-rat2> anyone have any information on the G15 keyboard and available apps for its LCD?
[08:47] <CrackOrcad> Gate_laptop thanks for your info
[08:48] <Conny> th0r: ok, then I check the makefile out.
[08:48] <Jowi> !compile | Conny
[08:48] <ubotu> Conny: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[08:48] <gfg> sexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[08:48] <scguy318> rake: a user may not be interested in proprietary or universe stuff, just stuff from main
[08:48] <scguy318> gfg: you won't find that here
[08:48] <Conny> Jowi, ubotu , th0r: Thx :) :
[08:48] <Learning-Ubuntu> I just downloaded all updates through update manager. how do I know if they got applied to my system ?
[08:48] <scguy318> Learning-Ubuntu: because reloading the update list would not show those updates
[08:49] <scguy318> Learning-Ubuntu: therefore they were installed
[08:49] <CrackOrcad> Learning-ubuntu just come back to vista :D vista would show you how !lol
[08:49] <AdemoS> Guys, I was able to successfully mount a new drive, but I can't get permission on it
[08:49]  * nickrud thinks it should be cracked cad , if CrackOrcad is serious :)
[08:49] <AdemoS> anything I try drag in says "no permission"
[08:49] <Learning-Ubuntu> scguy318,  thanks :)
[08:50] <CrackOrcad> Ademos comeback to vista :D vista doesn't have these problems:D
[08:50] <Microsoft-Fans> there we go
[08:51] <Learning-Ubuntu> CrackOrcad, Vista for some odd reason doesnt work on my system and I care less to troubleshoot it since i can get the same things I do on Vista in Ubuntu anyway.
[08:51] <AdemoS> Microsoft-Fans, as much as that's flame bait, I'll reply. Vista does not have those problems, it has a wide variety of it's own though. I'm much happier learning Linux then dealing with Microsoft's DRM
[08:51] <th0r> please don't feed the trolls
[08:51] <Gate_Laptop> Microsoft-Fans: but in the process of teaching you, you encounter 13 security warnings, 5 generic errors and 3 crashes
[08:51] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: Hear hear!
[08:51] <Microsoft-Fans> ha ha ha
[08:52] <Microsoft-Fans> come on what do you wanna do with PHP - MySLQ and apache! on linux
[08:52] <norv> Virtually all my linux crashes were graphics card induced, and for some crazy reason Intel seems to have the least problems
[08:52] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, you can see me! Do you know how to fix permissions on a new drive?
[08:52]  * Gate_Laptop apologizes for taking the bait
[08:52] <th0r> you guys should have known better
[08:52] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: what kind of permissions?
[08:52] <Microsoft-Fans> just take a look at some Microsoft products such as .NET  and ....
[08:53] <th0r> here we go
[08:53] <ljsmithx> Hello all AGAIN
[08:53] <Gate_Laptop> .NET is better known to me as .NOT Microsoft-Fans
[08:53] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, followed these steps (but made a ext3 parition) http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3907715&postcount=3
[08:53] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, now stuck on the last step, after reboot, can't write to drive
[08:53] <Gate_Laptop> although, I know some very intense OSS advocates who defend .NET :) I just dislike it
[08:53] <ljsmithx> When I try to record sound from my mic I get a VERY low sound level, how should I fix this?
[08:53] <th0r> AdemoS they are set in fstab normally, but for usb drives I am not sure where they are stored.
[08:53] <Microsoft-Fans> haha yeah that is why novell wrote an edition of its framework for linux (mono)
[08:53] <norv> And Java == NyQuill
[08:54] <AdemoS> th0r, it's a standard sata drive, not USB
[08:54] <Gate_Laptop> hm, just a moment let me read AdemoS
[08:54] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, thanks
[08:54] <imaginator> ljsmithx: try installing alsamixergui and enable the microphone boost.
[08:54] <steven_> jsmithx turn on mic boost
[08:54] <th0r> AdemoS then it is in fstab
[08:54] <ljsmithx> sudo apt-get install alsamixergui?
[08:54] <norv> soDarnVerboseMethodAndClassNames
[08:54] <th0r> AdemoS in fact, it looks like usb drives (usbfs) is in there too
[08:55] <steven_> alsamixer has a gui?
[08:55] <Sp4rKy> hi
[08:55] <ljsmithx> hello
[08:55] <norv> .NET's api is quite lengthy as well
[08:55] <nrober> what does xorg do?
[08:55] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: do me a favor? "sudo ls -lah /media/
[08:55] <Sp4rKy> is there people using package.medibuntu.org ?
[08:55] <Gate_Laptop> bah, no need for sudo
[08:55] <Gate_Laptop> ignore that part
[08:55] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: what is the line for /media/DATA
[08:56] <th0r> AdemoS you should see a line for the drive (/dev/sdb1, sdc2, whatever), and the write permissions are determined by the <options>
[08:56] <Microsoft-Fans> norv what do you mean by lengthy
[08:56] <scguy318> #ubuntu-offtopic guys?
[08:56] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, http://pastebin.com/m5d8cfb4c
[08:56] <scguy318> I don't think this is the place to be discussing the merits of .NET
[08:56] <AmbienNOD> the benefits of linux for me are vast, doesent crash as often, terrific managment of memory and processor, no worry about viruses, the installer unified, i dont have to keep install one thing after the other, (next, next, i agree, next, etc) update all my software with oneclick, its legal, little fragmentation, faster updates, and i forgot to mention its free
[08:56] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, I used /media/storage instead
[08:56] <norv> Microsoft-Fans: verbose class/method names
[08:56] <crazy6> ok, so I just installed a new nvidia card in my desktop, and X doesn't start... what's the "right" way to fix this?
[08:56] <ljsmithx> ok
[08:57] <ljsmithx> alsamixergui is installed, how do I use it?
[08:57] <scguy318> crazy6: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:57] <AmbienNOD> plus look at these live cds thats prettty cool now
[08:57] <ljsmithx> don't worry! I found it
[08:57] <GenDZ> hi is there an open source voice chat software to install in ubuntu??
[08:57] <MicrosoftvsLinux> here we go:D
[08:57] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: did you follow those directions exactly?
[08:57] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, yes, the drive appears on my desktop as they said
[08:57] <scguy318> GenDZ: Ekiga?
[08:57] <AdemoS> but I'm missing permissioons
[08:57] <scguy318> GenDZ: aMSN, Kopete
[08:58] <Gate_Laptop> GenDZ yes: Ekiga, comes with Ubuntu by default
[08:58] <scguy318> GenDZ: the latter two are IM clients that support voice
[08:58] <AdemoS> th0r> AdemoS you should see a line for the drive (/dev/sdb1, sdc2, whatever), and the write permissions are determined by the <options> <------ What do I insert for options?
[08:58] <Gate_Laptop> hm....
[08:58] <ljsmithx> I can't find the mic boost option... where isit?
[08:58] <GenDZ> no i wanna a ssoft that support chat rooms
[08:58] <Sp4rKy> do people using packages.medibuntu.org can apt-get update and let me know if they get a Hash Sum Error from packages.medibuntu.org please ?
[08:58] <Gate_Laptop> well, from those instructions you would have a folder /media/DATA and you don't have one, AdemoS
[08:59] <Gate_Laptop> but we can make this work anyway
[08:59] <scguy318> GenDZ: Skype? Teamspeak? Ventrilo? (pretty darn proprietary though)
[08:59] <robdeman> hi all.. anybody here that could help me setting up Postfix/SMTP on my server? I need it to be all secure and all that
[08:59] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: do the command "groups" and check that you are a member of plugdev
[08:59] <imaginator> ljsmithx: scroll a bit.  look for mic boost at the bottom
[08:59] <steven_> ljsmithx its in alsamixer open a term and type alsamixer then move over to find mic boost and press M to un mute
[09:00] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, alright
[09:00] <th0r> AdemoS you might try first 'defaults' to see if the default values are sufficient. My ntfs partitions are mounted with 'user,users,gid=users,umask=0002' and are writeable by users
[09:00] <AdemoS> ademos adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin netdev powerdev
[09:00] <Gate_Laptop> ok, that is what it should be
[09:00] <th0r> AdemoS the command 'mount' will show you the present options
[09:00] <ljsmithx> fixed it
[09:01] <steven_> now, another sound problem..  my microphone stays on all the time, even when its muted, it will reverb through my speakers all the time.. mute only turns it down a bit.. any ideas?
[09:01] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: next question: if you use sudo on the command line can you write to the drive? if so, you are being locked out by permissions
[09:01] <rake> scguy318: aha
[09:01] <imaginator> steven_: yes, toggle it to aux or synth IIRC
[09:01] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, can you give me a way to write with to the drive via terminal?
[09:01] <scguy318> rake: sources.list also lets you add third-party repositories
[09:01] <AdemoS> Th0r: Should I pastebin the contents?
[09:02] <scguy318> rake: though whether that's a good idea is a different story
[09:02] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, nevermind I'll try mkdir
[09:02] <th0r> AdemoS I am not an fstab expert...wouldn't be much more help than what I already said.
[09:02] <steven_> imaginator how do i do that, i cant find it
[09:02] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: that or touch :)
[09:03] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, (touch..? *laughs*) I used mkdir and with sudo I CAN make a dir, but I'm still locked out with nautilus
[09:03] <Sp4rKy> do people using packages.medibuntu.org can apt-get update and let me know if they get a Hash Sum Error from packages.medibuntu.org please ?
[09:04] <Gate_Laptop> OK, so you are just being denied privileges, th0r was right, go to fstab
[09:04] <imaginator> steven_: I wish I knew how to do that with alsamixer.  That's one reason I use alsamixergui :)
[09:04] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, okay when I get there, I'll paste the contents
[09:04] <Sp4rKy> (sorry for repeat, i really need this information)
[09:04] <KenSentMe> I have to test a new webcam driver for my laptop on the -24 kernel but i dont want to completely switch to hardy yet. Is there some other way to test the driver with the hardy kernel, without doing an upgrade?
[09:04] <scguy318> Sp4rKy: i get no errors
[09:04] <anson> how to use wine to play qq2007
[09:04] <rake> scguy318: would you happen to know where I can find a guide to install ruby on rails?
[09:05] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, http://pastebin.com/m2c66fdec
[09:05] <th0r> Gate_Laptop could you say that again...I hear it so rarely <smile>
[09:05] <scguy318> anson: you probably should see the Wine AppDb at http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:05] <scguy318> rake: I wouldn't unfortunately
[09:05] <Gate_Laptop> th0r: I said you suggested a reasonable and correct course of action, <insert generic ego stroke here>
[09:05] <Sp4rKy> scguy318: thanks
[09:05] <imaginator> steven_: another option might be amixer
[09:05] <Sp4rKy> other people ?
[09:05] <AdemoS> th0r: haha, I admit you were right also, I just wanted to try the help in order
[09:06] <steven_> i tried installing alsamixer, but cant get it to work, i tried "sudo apt-get alsamixergui" but it says "E: Invalid operation alsamixergui"
[09:06] <scguy318> steven_: you need to write sudo apt-get install alsamixergui
[09:06] <steven_> ah knew i was forgeting somthing ... lol
[09:06] <tkooda> upgrading to gusty broke my intel audio.  I've tried compiling numerous versions of the alsa modules manually, and even my own <IP_ADDRESS> kernel, but to no avail..  -can anyone tell me what I need to do to get my audio back on my (intel 82801G; ICH7 Family; snd-intel8x0(m?)) laptop?
[09:07] <sthustfo> hi everyone
[09:07] <th0r> AdemoS you might change 'defaults'  for sdb1 to 'user,exec' and see if that gets you anywhere, but I doubt it will be the final answer
[09:07] <AdemoS> th0r: After which should I restart or mount -a?
[09:07] <nomego> heya guys, how can I get f-spot 0.4.1 for ubuntu gutsy?
[09:08] <nomego> is there a source-package somewhere I can built?
[09:08] <th0r> AdemoS I think you will just have to umount and mount /dev/sdb1...we ARE talking about sdb1, right? that is the drive you are workig with
[09:08] <nomego> build
[09:08] <th0r> ?
[09:08] <scguy318> nomego: you'll probably have to find a tarball to make
[09:08] <scguy318> nomego: sec
[09:08] <AdemoS> th0r: correct
[09:08] <steven_> scguy318 k thx that worked
[09:08] <scguy318> nomego: http://ftp.gnome.org/Public/GNOME/sources/f-spot/0.4/f-spot-0.4.1.tar.bz2
[09:08] <scguy318> !make | nomego
[09:08] <ubotu> nomego: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[09:09] <th0r> AdemoS yeah...'sudo umount /dev/sdb1' then 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1' should get you the new options
[09:09] <steven_> imaginator ok i have it now, i dont know where the setting is tho, i have like a million channels... idk why
[09:09] <th0r> AdemoS and if this works I will quit while I am ahead
[09:09] <AdemoS> th0r: haha you knew  me well
[09:10] <nomego> scguy318: yeah I know how to compile from source, just thought that "apt-get source -b" or similar had extra instructions?
[09:10] <nomego> scguy318: a "special" source packagE?
[09:10] <AdemoS> th0r: Device is busy? >_<
[09:10] <AdemoS> I'll reboot
[09:10] <scguy318> nomego: special?
[09:10] <imaginator> steven_: same here.  It's complex, but basically if you toggle aux from what I recall these red lights will turn on on the GUI, and your mike won't be active all the time.
[09:10] <AdemoS> brb guys, if you can stick around I'd appericate it
[09:11] <th0r> AdemoS you have to close nautilus so it isn't accessing the drive
[09:11] <nomego> scguy318: yeah, so apt/dpkg knows how to build it and if any patches should be applied, etc
[09:11] <imaginator> steven_: err mike/mic
[09:12] <th0r> AdemoS that should have been 'users,exec' not 'user'
[09:12] <steven_> imaginator well il figure something out.. ty for ur help
[09:12] <AdemoS> gaaah, still no permission
[09:12] <shownowon> tkooda: when upgrading from feisty to gutsy...i experienced the same thing w/my asus p5b intel duo setup.... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[09:13] <imaginator> steven_: you're welcome.  I wish I knew of a better way.  alsa is very complex (perhaps overly), but it's better than what it replaced I think.   BAD!
[09:15] <AdemoS> imaginator, I can't write files
[09:15] <th0r> AdemoS try this for an option....'users,gid=users'
[09:16] <AdemoS> th0r alright
[09:16] <th0r> AdemoS the options are explained in 'man mount' under the Options section...under '-o'
[09:16] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: looks like th0r is taking you in a proper direction :)
[09:16] <AdemoS> th0r: haha, alright, let me know if they ever put in a woman mount.....sorry I couldn't resist
[09:16] <th0r> Gate_Laptop careful...I will come to expect it <smile>
[09:16] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, ah
[09:17] <imaginator> AdemoS: where are you mounting it, and what are the permissions of the directory where you're mounting it according to ls -l?
[09:17] <Gate_Laptop> hehe
[09:17] <AdemoS> imaginator, mounting in /media/storage
[09:17] <th0r> AdemoS and did you see my comment about shutting down nautilus? you need to shut down anything that is using that drive before you can umount it
[09:18] <AdemoS> th0r: how do I shut down the file manager?
[09:18] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: if *all* else fails, you can add yourself to the disks users group
[09:18] <th0r> AdemoS just close it...or move it so it isn't looking in that drive anymore
[09:18] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, well I'll try the current concept next
[09:18] <th0r> AdemoS  change to another directory not on that drive
[09:19] <ubuntu> the live PPC cd ubuntu 7.10 zont boot is there q sqfe mode to boot
[09:20] <kbdman> is it true about the 8.10 version???
[09:20] <Gate_Laptop> ubuntu is it a liveCD? try the alternate. What error does it give?
[09:20] <th0r> kbdman that it will have a psychic interface that doesn't require a keyboard? yes
[09:21] <imaginator> AdemoS: who do you want to be able to write to the disk?
[09:21] <kbdman> th0r: cool!
[09:21] <AdemoS> imaginator, non-root
[09:21] <ubuntu> the qlternate installs
[09:21] <walllieballie> HI
[09:21] <walllieballie> on the panel
[09:21] <walllieballie> where open applications are shown
[09:21] <imaginator> AdemoS: sudo chmod a+w /media/storage ;    sudo chgrp users /media/storage  should work
[09:21] <walllieballie> is it possible to stop applications from grouping?
[09:22] <walllieballie> and drag it up so it's twice as big, so more stuff can fit on it?
[09:22] <walllieballie> hell
[09:22] <walllieballie> oo
[09:22] <walllieballie> is anyone here
[09:22] <Gate_Laptop> walllieballie: be patient :)
[09:22] <walllieballie> what
[09:22] <walllieballie> fowr
[09:22] <Gate_Laptop> if you right click on the applications button you can edit the menus
[09:22] <imaginator> walllieballie: I seem to recall there is an option for the panel.  Have you right-clicked on the panel to see?
[09:22] <AdemoS> ahaaaa
[09:23] <AdemoS> imaginator, that worked great
[09:23] <AdemoS> th0r: I couldn't close nat in time : /
[09:23] <Gate_Laptop> see! I told you there was a right way AdemoS!
[09:23] <walllieballie> yes i have!
[09:23] <walllieballie> THERE IS NOt an option like that :>
[09:23] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, indeed!  Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[09:27] <walllieballie> io me
[09:27] <walllieballie> op me
[09:27] <walllieballie> plz
[09:27] <imaginator> you're welcome Smegzo1
[09:28] <ozzloy> i can't start amarok
[09:28] <ozzloy> please help
[09:28] <scguy318> why not?
[09:28] <Myrtti> so I was considering doing an rsync - nfs based system to keep my laptop and desktop in sync with each other
[09:28] <Sonja> use exaile
[09:28] <Sonja> it's gnomey
[09:28] <Sonja> for ubuntologists
[09:28] <ozzloy> i type "amarok" and wait, takes a long time, nothing in terminal
[09:28] <th0r> ozzloy open a terminal, type 'amarok' and see if you get an error message
[09:29] <Gate_Laptop> Myrtti: Thanks! I was getting worried :)
[09:29] <ozzloy> er... "amarok<enter>
[09:29] <ozzloy> "
[09:29] <Sonja> i thought exaile was more ubuntu-friendly than amarok
[09:29] <th0r> ozzloy does it eventually come back to the command prompt?
[09:29] <ozzloy> th0r: nope, haven't waited longer than 5 minutes, which is waay longer than normal
[09:29] <jimmio> Hello, I'm attempting to follow a tutorial on SDL and OpenGL game creation and I'm getting an undefined reference compile error on all GL commands, anyone here able to help?
[09:30] <wols> jimmio: you're missing the proper library
[09:30] <scguy318> jimmio: I dunno how it works on gcc and stuff, but you probably need to add references to the OpenGL libs in your linker
[09:30] <imaginator> ozzloy: try running strace amarok   that should tell you what syscall it's stuck in, unless it's somehow into an endless loop (in which case it will showup in top using a lot of CPU)
[09:30] <shownowon> ozzloy: try typing | sudo amarok
[09:30] <wols> compile/link with it and all will be well
[09:31] <Neatchee> Hey all.  My wireless device isn't showing up in ifconfig or iwconfig.  lshw shows that the driver is loaded, and the device is claimed, but it's not giving the device a logical name.  Any help would be appreciated.
[09:31] <imaginator> jimmio: I wrote a tutorial that may help.  One moment
[09:31] <ozzloy> imaginator: oooh yeah, some infinite loop
[09:31] <ozzloy> waitpid(14791, 0xbfa9d590, WNOHANG)     = 0
[09:31] <ozzloy> nanosleep({0, 100000}, NULL)            = 0
[09:31] <ozzloy> over and over
[09:32] <imaginator> jimmio: this in combination with the man/info pages should help: http://www.xmission.com/~georgeps/documentation/tutorials/compilation_and_makefiles.html
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> anyone know a way that I could define a system alias such that when I type in "wp" in my browser, it actually goes to en.wikipedia.org ?
[09:32] <Hemebond> For firefox?
[09:32] <Hemebond> Create a bookmark.
[09:33] <AdemoS> gaah so close
[09:33] <AdemoS> EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "gid=100" or missing value
[09:33] <Hemebond> Enter in wp as the keyword.
[09:33] <wols> tonyyarusso: put it in /etc/hosts or something
[09:33] <ozzloy> shownowon: sudo strace amarok shows an infinite loop of some sort
[09:33] <tonyyarusso> wols: how?  I tried what I thought would work in there, but nothing changed
[09:33] <cptR3D> !mce
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <wols> AdemoS: ext3 does its own perms, not via mount option like vfat
[09:33] <th0r> tonyyarusso in the file ~/.alias add the following line
[09:33] <AdemoS> wols: Set it to default then?
[09:33] <Smegzo1> hmm.. well I haven't found anything responsible for freezing my pc while doing a network file copy, but I'm going to see how it handles a 4 gig single file transfer. I bet i crash.
[09:33] <imaginator> AdemoS: I don't think you want gid=1000
[09:33] <imaginator> that's for adfs and some others, not ext3
[09:34] <shownowon> ozzloy: r u running under kde or gnome
[09:34] <|newbie|> hola
[09:34] <wols> AdemoS: no gid option at all
[09:34] <stupidgirl> hai i have 6 users
[09:34] <th0r> tonyyarusso alias wp='firefox <url>'
[09:34] <void^> ozzloy: amarok is just a loader, it waits for amarokapp
[09:34] <jimmio> I was hoping to use CodeBlocks C/C++ IDE still... what might I do to get it working with the IDE?
[09:34] <stupidgirl> i want to make a folder where they can all access and change files
[09:34] <|newbie|> alguen escribe en español
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> th0r: No, that would make a bash command alias - I want a host alias.
[09:34] <stupidgirl> how to do this in ubuntu 7.10, best way?
[09:34] <AdemoS> imaginator, didn't use 1000 --- /dev/sdb1 /media/storage ext3    user,gid=users        0       2
[09:34] <|newbie|> spanish
[09:34] <|newbie|> ???
[09:34] <Hemebond> stupidgirl: Access Control Lists
[09:34] <th0r> tonyyarusso add it to the file /etc/hosts
[09:35] <AdemoS> wols: is this better?  /dev/sdb1 /media/storage ext3    user,exc        0       2
[09:35] <|newbie|> nadie habla español
[09:35] <ozzloy> shownowon: gnome
[09:35] <shownowon> ozzloy: ahhh...amarok is a kde app
[09:35] <ozzloy> shownowon: yeah, i know
[09:35] <ozzloy> shownowon: i run it all the time.  have the libraries
[09:35] <stupidgirl> Hemebond, sorry sir, i r noob, plz explain, "access control lists"
[09:35] <th0r> tonyyarusso you can add 'alteregos' at the end of a line like '<IP_ADDRESS> www.myhome.net myhome wp'
[09:35] <Hemebond> stupidgirl: Or, just create a folder with the same permissions as /tmp
[09:35] <ozzloy> shownowon: just this time it's taking a long time
[09:35] <|newbie|> heyyyyyyyy
[09:36] <AdemoS> |newbie|: /join #ubuntu-es for esponol
[09:36] <wols> !aCL
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <wols> AdemoS: what is "exc" supposed to be?
[09:36] <shownowon> ozzloy: i would think that ur kde install got messed up somehow...but that doesn't seem to b the answer
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> th0r: what if I don't want to include the IP address, just the english names?
[09:36] <ozzloy> k, i killall amarokapp
[09:36] <ozzloy> that worked
[09:36] <AdemoS> wols: sorry mistake  /dev/sdb1 /media/storage ext3    user,exec        0       2
[09:37] <AdemoS> wols: or should that be "default"
[09:37] <wols> AdemoS: looks fine from here
[09:37] <th0r> tonyyarusso don't know...never wanted to do that <smile>. I think you will need an ip for /etc/hosts/
[09:37] <ozzloy> imaginator: shownowon: thanks, i fixed it!
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> th0r: hmm, bother
[09:37] <imaginator> you're welcome ozzloy
[09:37] <wols> tonyyarusso: then you need to run your own DNS server with a cusom CNAME for "wp"
[09:37] <ozzloy> void^: thanks
[09:37] <th0r> tonyyarusso what are you trying to accomplish?
[09:38] <tonyyarusso> th0r: Save myself keystrokes for frequently visited web sites (that may have rotating IPs)
[09:38] <tonyyarusso> wols: I suppose I could do that.
[09:38] <AdemoS> wols: Which one is fine? exec or default?
[09:38] <wols> I'd use default
[09:38] <tonyyarusso> wols: BIND, or is something else more appropriate?
[09:39] <Hemebond> tonyyarusso: Goodness me, just use a Firefox keyword.
[09:39] <AdemoS> alright
[09:39] <kote> or hosts?
[09:39] <AdemoS> wols: reboot?
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> Hemebond: a who what now?  (I actually use Epiphany much of the time, but still interested)
[09:39] <th0r> AdemoS no...just umount and mount
[09:39] <wols> AdemoS: why would you?
[09:39] <cptR3D> !linuxmce
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linuxmce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <kote> right nm missed that
[09:40] <Hemebond> tonyyarusso: You add a keyword to a bookmark. It's like a shorcut. For example, if I want to search Wikipedia I type: "w my search terms"
[09:40] <AdemoS> all: ....because mount never worked before >_> <_< sorry will do
[09:40] <Hemebond> tonyyarusso: Because I've set "w" as the keyword for the Wikipedia search.
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> Hemebond: That would be fantastic - I never knew Firefox had such a thing...
[09:40] <AdvoWork> hi there. is there any reason why going to my home dir and performing a ls would hang/take ages, and connecting via winscp or similar allows me to any folder apart from home, in which case it gives the errors: Error listing directory '/home'. and Error changing directory to '/home'.  ?
[09:40] <AdemoS> ahh
[09:40] <AdemoS> EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "default" or missing value
[09:40] <Hemebond> tonyyarusso: Actually, Firefox comes with a keyword for Wikipedia already. Google too.
[09:41] <kote> ah cool... that keyword thing
[09:41] <c9s> hello , i have command to rename a file ( mv foobar/foo.bak foobar/foo ) , how do i make this command shorter ?
[09:41] <wols> AdemoS: defaults
[09:41] <th0r> AdemoS try 'users' (note the second 's')
[09:41] <AdemoS> s...okay
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> hottium: what is the default?
[09:41] <th0r> AdemoS one way or the other...we need more 's's <smile>
[09:41] <AdemoS> haha
[09:41] <AdemoS> indeed
[09:41] <AdemoS> that did it
[09:41] <c9s> or faster
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> Hemebond: rather ^^
[09:42] <Hemebond> Default what?
[09:42] <AdemoS> okay....one last reboot to test this and I'm good
[09:42] <AdemoS> brb
[09:42] <c9s> hello , i have command to rename a file ( mv foobar/foo.bak foobar/foo ) , how do i make this command shorter or faster  :)
[09:42] <c9s> thanks
[09:42] <Hemebond> c9s: What do you mean shorter?
[09:42] <imaginator> c9s: that looks short to me.  are you doing it over a lot of files?
[09:43] <jimmio> I added this to the linker settings tab: -I/usr/include/GL/gl.h but it didn't change anything
[09:43] <Riddick> is there a package name to install all the compilers like there is for the desktop?  like ubuntu-compilers?
[09:44] <Hemebond> Riddick: Not build-essentials?
[09:44] <imaginator> jimmio: you want the directory.  It should work if you use -I/usr/include/GL  and then your #include <gl.h>
[09:44] <Riddick> let me try that
[09:44] <scriptha_> How do I disconnect a session from my sshd?
[09:44] <Hemebond> scriptha_: Exit?
[09:44] <imaginator> jimmio: normally #include <GL/gl.h> would work though
[09:44] <scriptha_> from the server Hemebond
[09:44] <Hemebond> scriptha_: Oh, you mean from the server end...
[09:45] <zcat[1]> Riddick: b-e will give you all the stuff you typically need to start building stuff.. but probably not 'all' the compilers available..
[09:45] <AdemoS> very nice
[09:45] <jimmio> imaginator: then there is another issue somewhere...
[09:45] <AdemoS> working good
[09:45] <Hemebond> scriptha_: restart the service? googling now.
[09:45] <th0r> scriptha_  you can force it to drop with 'kill -9 <pid>'
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> Hemebond: how did you write a url to the wikipedia search directly?
[09:45] <vud1> hi all. I am working in a gnome sport application
[09:45] <imaginator> jimmio: is it a linking issue, or a header file issue?
[09:45] <th0r> scriptha_ you need to do that as root or with sudo
[09:46] <vud1> and i need knows if "Accumulated Unevenness" is an english correct expression. is it?
[09:46] <AdemoS> the one thing is, I bought a terrbyte drive and I only have 870 GB to work with (46 GB used, 916 GB total)
[09:46] <Hemebond> tonyyarusso: Does Firefox not already have one? If not, go to the search box on the Wikipedia page, right-click on it and select "Add a keyword for this Search..."
[09:46] <scriptha_> thanks
[09:46] <AdemoS> Is this huge cut in space normal?
[09:46] <AdemoS> Gparted says I'm using the entire drive
[09:46] <am0ns3t> hello. what i should do if instead the ubuntu boot screen i want see verbose mode?
[09:46] <HackerAlert> Can someone please help me, just 2 questions I have..
[09:46] <th0r> AdemoS yeah...a 10MB drive never was 10MB either...a manufacturers game
[09:46] <tonyyarusso> Hemebond: Whoa.  To think I've been using this for years without knowing that.....  :P
[09:47] <th0r> AdemoS comes from considering a GB as 1000 MB instead of 1024 MB
[09:47] <AdemoS> th0r: Damn, well I knew it would less then 1 TB but I didn't expect this much less
[09:47] <HackerAlert> I'm having problems installing wine
[09:47] <HackerAlert> The website says to do this step first: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[09:47] <jimmio> imaginator: it says "undefined reference to "glViewPort"" and all other GL commands... that's about all I know
[09:47] <th0r> AdemoS yeah well...consider the problem starts with 1KB not being 1024 B and then keeps compounding
[09:47] <AdemoS> Thor: haha, another scam huh?
[09:48] <HackerAlert> I get this error when doing that: gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[09:48] <HackerAlert> So that command is not working.. =\
[09:48] <HackerAlert> And next it says to do "sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list"
[09:48] <kraut> moin
[09:48] <AdemoS> Th0r: Add to that scam, this one, and you're looking at the bleak future : / http://www.againsttcpa.com/what-is-tcpa.html
[09:48] <th0r> AdemoS I call them habits....HAlf Baked Implementations of Technology
[09:48] <imaginator> AdemoS: for some reason hard disk manufacturers go by a different base than most
[09:48] <HackerAlert> When I do that one, I get this error..
[09:48] <HackerAlert> Error parsing proxy URL http://:8080/: Invalid host name.
[09:48] <HackerAlert> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list: Unsupported scheme.
[09:48] <imaginator> they are using powers of 10 IIRC rather than powers of 2
[09:49] <am0ns3t> hello. what i should do if instead the ubuntu boot screen i want see verbose mode?
[09:49] <imaginator> jimmio: do you have -lgl  ?
[09:49] <nofear> how do i play mp3's and dvds on       ubuntu?
[09:49] <th0r> am0ns3t in /boot/grub/menu.lst change 'splash=siletn' to 'splash=verbose'
[09:49] <AdemoS> Okay guys, so one more question, though not a big one
[09:49] <th0r> am0ns3t (silent)
[09:49] <AdemoS> When a boot and shut down ubuntu, I don
[09:50] <AdemoS> t see the loading screen anymore
[09:50] <AdemoS> that might just be the dual core speeding along, but I wanted to make sure it was normal
[09:50] <am0ns3t> th0r: thanks
[09:50] <AdemoS> *quad core
[09:50] <scguy318> HackerAlert: so your proxy configuration for wget/your system might be an issue
[09:50] <theCarpenter> i cant find the port i would enter into the X configuration file to use an ethernet mouse
[09:50] <HackerAlert> I dont have a proxy configuration :X
[09:50] <theCarpenter> yes, its an ethernet mouse and yes its ghetto, but its my only one :X
[09:50] <HackerAlert> Well I never set one up..
[09:50] <HackerAlert> whoah an ethernet mouse? awesome
[09:51] <jimmio> imaginator: not quite sure what you mean there... the GL folder does exist and the IDE is even recognizing the parameters to be sent to the different functions
[09:51] <th0r> HackerAlert I think that error is saying someplace in your sources list you have a repo listed as http://:8080, missing the domain name or ip
[09:51] <AdemoS> guys what is "icedteajava7"? Some non-sun java?
[09:52] <imaginator> jimmio: you basically need a /usr/lib/libGL.so or /usr/lib/libGL.a  -l will use either if it exists
[09:52] <imaginator> I got the case wrong before.  it should be -lGL
[09:52] <HackerAlert> but I never set up a repo other than the default ones..
[09:52] <theCarpenter> im looking at the ubuntu wiki for serial mouse configuration, but i cant find an analogue for the ethernet port
[09:52] <imaginator> jimmio: btw the Mesa package provides libGL if you don't have it
[09:52] <theCarpenter> there is no /dev/eth0 or /dev/eth1 or anything
[09:53] <tuntun> has anyone played flightgear? what did you think? (sceenshots here: http://www.flightgear.org/Gallery-v1.0/)
[09:53] <AdemoS> ooooh answered my own question http://icedtea.classpath.org/wiki/Main_Page
[09:53] <oly-> hi, i am trying to setup freetds on gutsy and want to test my connection using tsql except it does not exist, is there a package i can install for tsql ?
[09:54] <ikonia> oly-: tsql is normally part of a database toolkit, tsql will depend on what database you are connecting to
[09:55] <oly-> trying to connect to mssql, i read to install freetds and the run tsql to test
[09:55] <oly-> but i can not test because its not installed, so not sure what todo to get it
[09:55] <ikonia> oly-: well there won't be an ms-sql client designed to run on linux
[09:55] <oly-> well from what i have read you can using freetds
[09:55] <ikonia> I'm just reading up on freetds now as I've never used it
[09:56] <jimmio> imaginator: Thank you so much. I've got it working now. Didn't realize I needed to include the actually library...
[09:56] <oly-> or alternatively using odbc, but freetds sounds better and looks simpler
[09:56] <jimmio> actual*
[09:56] <imaginator> jimmio: it's more linking with the library, than including it :)
[09:56] <imaginator> jimmio: and you're welcome
[09:56] <ikonia> oly-: where did you install freetds from the ubuntu repo's or the freetds website ?
[09:56] <jimmio> imaginator: =)
[09:57] <oly-> from the repo's
[09:57] <nocturn> Hi all
[09:57] <iNeo> nocturn: Hi
[09:57] <nocturn> What programs can open streaming mms audio?
[09:57] <tarelerulz> What is if you changed the size of you swap while you where running you system ?  What would happen
[09:57] <iNeo> nocturn: vlc
[09:57] <iNeo> nocturn: VLC Media Player
[09:58] <ikonia> oly-: ok, I think the package sqsh will contain a command line connector tool to test
[09:58] <nocturn> iNeo: Off course, why didn't I think of this...
[09:58] <iNeo> nocturn: Or Banshee
[09:58] <nocturn> was messing with Exaile and movie player
[09:58] <iNeo> nocturn: Good luck
[09:58] <ikonia> oly-: I can see connection libraries in the repo's but no actual ms-sql tsql client. (which I wouldn't expect)
[09:59] <ikonia> oly-: the only other package could be the sqlrelay-freetds package as thts a daemon that may contain a tsql client, but I don't know that
[09:59] <oly-> yeah i tried sqsh, but it was unhelpful it it run and returned to the console with out any error
[09:59] <nocturn> iNeo: Installing vlc now, thanks
[09:59] <MF_Debian> tarelerulz, its like saying all the names of god, the world will end, heh, nah its fine to do that
[09:59] <imaginator> tarelerulz: how would you do that?
[09:59] <oly-> okay will try that if i dont have it installed
[09:59] <ikonia> oly-: I can't see how there can be an MS tsql client for a linux platform to be honest.
[10:00] <oly-> i am not sure how it works, just found it from reading on the web the example i think was for dapper
[10:00] <ikonia> just got to pop for meeting
[10:00] <oly-> and said just install freetds
[10:01] <tarelerulz> MF_Debian , the reason I ask is I noticed I had some odd free space that I did not make it part of the swap .   Plus could you resize you root partition while you where using it ?
[10:01] <gaelik> Hi everyone.
[10:01] <gaelik> alguien habla castellano por aqui?
[10:02] <tpal> hi everyone
[10:02] <Karyom> hi all
[10:03] <tpal> i have a problem, can anyone help me?
[10:03] <Karyom> has anybody experiences with runnun Windows on Linux as a Virtual Machine? how much Systrem resources does it need?
[10:03] <AdemoS> hmm
[10:03] <Hemebond> Karyom: It all depends on how much resources you give it.
[10:03] <AdemoS> everytime I try to run Azureus it crashes
[10:03] <AdemoS> any ideas?
[10:03] <Hemebond> AdemoS: It does that.
[10:03] <AdemoS> should I dump javaicedtea?
[10:03] <AdemoS> because with sunjava I never had that issue
[10:03] <Hemebond> AdemoS: Use something else.
[10:04] <AdemoS> Well since I have plugins in Azu I use, that's not my best option
[10:04] <AdemoS> I'll try Sun java next
[10:04] <th0r> AdemoS I would recommend going to sun java anyway to ensure compatibility with other java apps
[10:04] <Hemebond> AdemoS: if you get it running let me know as I tried absolutely everything.
[10:04] <Karyom> I have an Intel Core Duo 2Ghz and 2 Gb RAM will it run?
[10:05] <Hemebond> AdemoS: Gave up and went to Deluge
[10:05] <AdemoS> th0r: Same here
[10:05] <AdemoS> Hemebond, can you link me to that, might be interesting to look at
[10:05] <th0r> Hemebond I had it running in suse the other day, but saw no reason to keep it since I like Deluge
[10:05] <Hemebond> It's in the repos
[10:06] <Karyom> AdemoS have you tried KTorrent? I think its much better than Azureus
[10:06] <AdemoS> hmm I'll check it out, I really do like the cross-combatiliblity concept though
[10:06] <linuxboy> does postgres in ubuntu suppoer pg-cluster ?
[10:06] <AdemoS> I'll try them both guys
[10:06] <tuntun> Has anyone played FlightGear? (screenshots http://www.flightgear.org/Gallery-v1.0/) how is it??
[10:06] <Hemebond> th0r: I spent a day or two trying to get it running in Ubuntu. Tried every version of Java. Different versions of Az. Repo. Debs. The lot. Kind of runs now but throws up heaps of errors.
[10:06] <gaelik> need somehelp
[10:06] <gaelik> my sinaptic is dead
[10:07] <Hemebond> gaelik: Dead how?
[10:07] <oly-> ikonia, looks like its missing from gutsy if you download and compile freetds its actually included
[10:07] <th0r> Hemebond that was something I didn't like about it. If I ran it from a menu it looked fine, but from a terminal it was constantly throwing errors
[10:07] <gaelik> E: Línea 67 mal formada en lista de fuentes /etc/apt/sources.list (dist absoluta)
[10:07] <imaginator> gaelik: do you mean synaptic  (the package manager) ?
[10:07] <AdemoS> two ports...?
[10:07] <gaelik> E: Líne 67 as bad format in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist absoluta)
[10:08] <Myrtti> gaelik: looks like it says what the error is
[10:08] <AdemoS> I haven't used two ports for bittorrents since the shadow BT
[10:08] <gaelik> yes
[10:08] <Myrtti> gaelik: fix it
[10:08] <gaelik> synaptic
[10:08] <AdemoS> well I'll look at ktorrent
[10:08] <ikonia> oly-: apologies, I'm back now
[10:08] <th0r> gaelik look at line 67 in that file....there is something wrong with it.
[10:08] <gaelik> ........
[10:08] <gaelik> ok
[10:08] <bagoes> jember
[10:08] <gaelik> ill take a look and i come back
[10:09] <Myrtti> gaelik: alt-f2, write "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and see what's on line 67
[10:09] <oly-> thats okay, just thought i would let you know so basically it should be possible to connect using freetds, just have to compile my own
[10:09] <imaginator> tuntun: FlightGear is ok.  I played it years ago.  It's mainly meant as an accurate simulation of flying, so it's somewhat complex.  I think I prefer bzflag, openarena, and tremulous for gaming.
[10:09] <ikonia> oly-: so you have to build your own ms tsql client ?
[10:09] <oly-> no just build my own freetds
[10:09] <bagoes> everyone with no one
[10:09] <oly-> it includes tsql,
[10:09] <Karyom> Ademos you can install it over at-get, but for the more up to date Version you must install it over source...from the Website
[10:10] <oly-> just not in the version in the repository for some reason
[10:10] <ikonia> oly-: ahh hI see
[10:10] <gaelik> ok
[10:10] <gaelik> im seyng the list now
[10:10] <oly-> will see if i can file it as a bug some where or something
[10:10] <gaelik> thanks myrtti
[10:10] <gaelik> now what?
[10:10] <Sergemine> Hi, Guys! Need help. I have to connect to a network without a dhcp server. When setting a static IP nothing works since the last update. No network at all. Anyone knows if there is a way to make ubuntu set a specified IP in case it fales to find a DHCP???
[10:10] <oly-> should be in hardy, because buisnesses generally have mssql in place so need to interoperate with it
[10:11] <gaelik> lines arent numbered
[10:11] <ikonia> oly-: I would log a request to verify it will be in hardy rather than assume
[10:11] <chazco> Anyone know how to create a mime type which will be recognised in KDE and Gnome?
[10:11] <AdemoS> Karyom, well at the moment I'm trying sun java, but I'll try that next thanks
[10:11] <Hemebond> gaelik: Gedit lets you go to a line.
[10:11] <ikonia> chazco: are you still struggling
[10:11] <Hemebond> gaelik: Under the search menu
[10:11] <oly-> ikonia, what do you mean log a request is that the ask a question on launchpad
[10:11] <tuntun> imaginator: look at the screenshots (http://www.flightgear.org/Gallery-v1.0/) it looks like flight simulator X, that's not too complex, this doesn't look so either
[10:11] <chazco> ikonia - It works on Gnome, but not KDE
[10:12] <ikonia> oly-: correct
[10:12] <chazco> Still not sure if i've done it the correct way though
[10:12] <oly-> okay will do thxs for the help :)
[10:12] <AdemoS> yup, good old azu didn't let me down
[10:12] <AdemoS> Hemebond, go with Sun Java 6 jre
[10:12] <norv> chazco: well there's /etc/mime.types etc
[10:12] <ikonia> chazco: I've not got access to my build kit at the moment but as you've been struggling for so long and really trying with this, if you want I'll catch you later about 8:00GMT and go through this with you when I can access my build machine
[10:12] <WEW> I'm using dual monitor with separate X screens. When I want to launch a program from terminal, how do i let it know which screen to open in? Write now everything's going to the 2nd monitor
[10:13] <chazco> Oh thanks :) Would appreciate that
[10:13] <chazco> norv - Tried that, KDE doesnt seem to recognise it
[10:13] <tuntun> imaginator: you said you played a few years ago, it must have been 2d! :P
[10:13] <chazco> I think they both use different methods
[10:13] <imaginator> tuntun: nah, it was 3D.  I think there was only a plane back then to fly
[10:13] <Hemebond> AdemoS: I use SUN Java
[10:14] <Sergemine> Anyone: can ubuntu set a static IP in case it doesn't get automatically - like in Windows (alternative configuration) ???????????
[10:14] <nocturn> Hi again
[10:14] <AdemoS> Hemebond, Sun Java 6 though? Cause once I switched to that, no crashes
[10:14] <imaginator> WEW: do you have displays :0.0 and :0.1?
[10:14] <nocturn> I'm still trying to open an mms stream
[10:14] <WEW> imaginator i dont know
[10:14] <Hemebond> AdemoS: Yes. It's in the repos.
[10:14] <nocturn> every program locks up when opening it, vlc, banshee, movie player, xine, ...
[10:14] <Myrtti> Sergemine: sure
[10:14] <WEW> imaginator where do I check that
[10:15] <imaginator> WEW: xdpyinfo would tell you which screens you have.  The screen number comes after the 0.
[10:15] <AdemoS> Hemebond, well doing that worked for me, and I got everything from the repo....beyond remove and installing again I don't know what to tell ya
[10:15] <Sergemine> Oh! Myrtti, how can I do that??/
[10:15] <th0r> nocturn what is the stream?
[10:15] <Jowi_n1> Sergemine, see "man dhclient.conf" in the "alias declarations"
[10:15] <Hemebond> AdemoS: What version of Azu you using? 2.5 from the repos?
[10:15] <nocturn> th0r: mms://wm.streampower.be/4fmlow
[10:15] <nocturn> It's a local Belgian radio station
[10:15] <tuntun> everyone should have a look at at this open source flight simulator (screenshots: http://www.flightgear.org/Gallery-v1.0/).
[10:15] <tuntun>  If anyone decides to play it let me know how it is! :)
[10:15] <AdemoS> Hemebond, <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:15] <Myrtti> Jowi_n1: how about System - Admin - Network Tools
[10:16] <imaginator> WEW: you should be able to do something like:  xterm -display :0.0   to make it be on a certain screen.  If the program doesn't support that you can use: env DISPLAY=:0.0 someprogram &
[10:16] <WEW> imaginator: Okay it's 0 and 1, and the default screen is set to 0
[10:16] <WEW> imaginator: Sorry I mean default is 1
[10:16] <Hemebond> AdemoS: Ah, I needed 3.
[10:16] <Myrtti> what on earth
[10:16] <Myrtti> Sergemine: system - admin - network tools
[10:16] <Myrtti> Jowi_n1: nvm
[10:16] <Jowi_n1> Myrtti, haven't got gnome here.
[10:16] <th0r> nocturn if its any consolation it doesn't work for me either...and I use vlc to run streams all the time.
[10:16] <jimmio> tuntun: Played it before... it was alright...
[10:17] <nocturn> Thanks for trying th0r