[08:13] <jessica_> thank you!
[08:13] <Hawkwind> tom_: Yes
[08:13] <abattoir> tom_: yes,
[08:13] <tom_> same effect?
[08:13] <tom_> right, thought so, thanks
[08:13] <abattoir> tom_: Manage Repositories is just a graphical method of editing sources.list
[08:13] <Hawkwind> tom_: It's easier IMO to just edit the file and use the package manager from CLI rather than relying on a GUI package manager
[08:14] <tom_> it's just i'm closely following instructions in documentation to get some things working
[08:16] <tom_> doing apt-get update - accessing .gb server, seems slow, anyone else using the gb?
[08:16] <tom_> is there another which is faster at the moment?
[08:18] <bobesponja> hey all
[08:19] <bobesponja> I associated .rhtml to open with kate and now everytime I open a webpage that runs on my webrick konqueror opens it in kate
[08:19] <bobesponja> how can I fix this?
[08:19] <J> is it easy to install kubuntu onto my system whilst keeping the 2 OS's i already have installed
[08:19] <_kkathman> tom I have the gb sources also
[08:20] <_kkathman> tom  I dont seem to experience the slowness, though
[08:20] <tom_> damnit
[08:21] <tom_> downloading at about 500Bps
[08:21] <jaysef> is it easy to install kubuntu onto my system whilst keeping the 2 OS's i already have installed
[08:21] <tom_> depends what you mean by easy jaysef
[08:21] <jaysef> well atm i have dual boot with xp and slax
[08:21] <scion> bobesponja: right click on the file - select open with and picl firefox or opera - don't forget to check the box at the bottom for konqueror to remember
[08:22] <tom_> did you find that easy to do?
[08:22] <jaysef> id like to add kubuntu as well, i have a spare partition in etx3 format
[08:22] <jaysef> but im worried in case i wipe the boot record i already have
[08:24] <jaysef> tom: the os installer done it all for me
[08:24] <sinpath> hey ummm can yany one tell me what this means?
[08:24] <sinpath> The selected encoder was not found.
[08:24] <jaysef> are you trying to watch a movie format or something ?
[08:24] <abattoir> sinpath: where do you get this?
[08:24] <bobesponja> scion: I want to open that page with konqueror but konqueror insists in opening it with kate
[08:24] <sinpath> when ripping the cd
[08:25] <sinpath> when its finshed it pops up
[08:25] <abattoir> jaysef: i'd expect grub to detect your other installations...
[08:25] <abattoir> sinpath: which method did you use?
[08:25] <abattoir> sinpath: audiocd:/ ?
[08:26] <sinpath> i have it set up for mp3  ya i think
[08:26] <abattoir> sinpath: are you following the link which i gave you?
[08:26] <sinpath> kaudiocreator
[08:26] <bobesponja> scion: it doesn't work
[08:26] <Dr_willis> it pays to learn the ins and outs of grub.  In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[08:27] <bobesponja> abattoir: hey :)
[08:27] <abattoir> !multiverse
[08:27] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:27] <sinpath> yes  & as far as i can understand
[08:27] <abattoir> bobesponja: hi :)
[08:27] <abattoir> bobesponja: installation went well?
[08:27] <nimnrod> i want to play MP3 files.... which package should i donwload? i use amarok as media player
[08:27] <bobesponja> abattoir: yes thanx
[08:27] <abattoir> nimnrod: libxine-extracodecs
[08:27] <nimnrod> ty
[08:27] <nimnrod> thank you
[08:27] <bobesponja> abattoir: I associated an .rhtml to open with kate and now everytime I open a webpage that runs on my webrick konqueror opens it in kate
[08:27] <abattoir> nimnrod: its in multiverse, so you should enable that, look at the link above
[08:27] <sinpath> ok thanks again
[08:28] <abattoir> bobesponja: did you try removing that association?
[08:28] <bobesponja> abattoir: any idea how to fix this? it's a ruby file that shold open like .html or .php as it outputs html
[08:28] <bobesponja> abattoir: where can I remove it?
[08:28] <abattoir> bobesponja: KControl/System Settings->KDE Components->File Associations
[08:29] <bobesponja> abattoir: I looked in there but rhtml is not in the list
[08:29] <rebecca> hi
[08:29] <abattoir> bobesponja: else you could set konq. as the default app, the same way you set kate...
[08:32] <bobesponja> abattoir: I did that but it didn't fix it
[08:33] <shegman> i added a symbol to the toolbar in kontact. now it crashes everytime when i want to start it.
[08:34] <shegman> what can i do?
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> shegman, you have the information backed up?
[08:34] <sinpath> umm question how do i find the muti draper cause i cant find it in my adept
[08:35] <shegman> what information?
[08:35] <shegman> the crash-report?
[08:35] <octan> Heya all
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> the information in kontact
[08:35] <octan> anyone got experiance with xmeeage ?
[08:35] <scion> hello octan
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> sinpath, what is muti draper
[08:35] <bobesponja> abattoir: ok thanx I had to go to /home/pat/.kde/share/mimelnk/text/html.desktop and set X-KDE-AutoEmbed=true
[08:35] <octan> why does this not print on 2 lines with xmessage-?? xmessage -c $(echo -e "test\nthis a test too")
[08:35] <shegman> no. i hadn't expected that it wouldn't start again
[08:36] <luca_b> uhm, I have a question
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> luca_b, ask
[08:36] <scion> "test \n this a test too"
[08:36] <tom_> can anyone tell me how to install codecs when apt-get update doesn't work
[08:36] <luca_b> do you know if .img files taken with k3b can be used in other burning programs?
[08:36] <tom_> how can i install codecs manually?
[08:36] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[08:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:37] <Dr_willis> tom_,  i download the latest .deb files from the mplayer homepage and install them
[08:37] <sinpath> ded http//ca ardhive.ubuntu.com\ubuntu/ dapper universe
[08:37] <tom_> please understand that the instructions at those pages aren't helping me
[08:37] <shegman> another tip then backup?
[08:37] <tom_> because they don't tell you what i've just asked. thankyou
[08:38] <tom_> willis, will you help me do that?
[08:38] <Dr_willis> download the codec packages.. install them.
[08:38] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:38] <sinpath> well i had just confugered my abept with eazy kbuntu
[08:39] <Dr_willis> Thers some other bot factoid with a better uel...
[08:39] <Dr_willis> but i cant rember it.
[08:39] <Dr_willis> !codec
[08:39] <tom_> i tried that before, got stuck after placing the codecs in the codecs folder, didn't know what to do next
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <octan> scion, any ideas?
[08:39] <sinpath> thanks guys
[08:39] <scion> octan: ahh nothing much
[08:40] <scion> octan: try a space before and after the \n
[08:40] <Admiral_Chicago> luca_b, i don't think so
[08:40] <abaldwin> back again...
[08:40] <luca_b> Admiral_Chicago: argh
[08:40] <sybux> luca_b: Hi again, I've restarted my session and my koffice is working fine now. I think that after the apt-get, some enviroment variables should have to be set in the session. thx for help
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> luca_b, what do you want to do?
[08:41] <luca_b> sybux: good to know!
[08:41] <abaldwin> I reinstalled my fedora install, and succeeded in booting it...I told grub to add kubuntu at hda2, but now, I cant get kubuntu t oboot, why cant I get thse two to play nice?
[08:41] <octan> scion, did that work for you? it didnt for me
[08:41] <luca_b> Admiral_Chicago: I made an image of a burnt CD I have so my friend can test something, but I selected "clone" in the options
[08:42] <luca_b> Admiral_Chicago: I thought it would produce an ISO anyway
[08:42] <Skrot> !msttcorefonts
[08:42] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[08:42] <Skrot> !fonts
[08:42] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[08:42] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[08:42] <scion> octan: to be honest I was judging that on my Java experience, don't know if it would work in x-message
[08:42] <luca_b> Admiral_Chicago: but it's not a big deal if I can't, I'll just rewrite it
[08:42] <scion> octan: does x-message use html by any chance?
[08:43] <scion> octan: i have no idea!
[08:43] <dhq> how do i change my root and user pass
[08:43] <octan> scion i dont know. why you ask that?
[08:43] <dhq> !password
[08:43] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[08:43] <dhq> !sudo
[08:43] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:43] <scion> octan: a simple
 might do if it parses html
[08:43] <dhq> |lostbyte|:  hello
[08:43] <dhq> fdoving: hello
[08:44] <abattoir> bobesponja: sorry, was afk, glad that you resolved it :)
[08:44] <octan> scion, nop.
[08:44] <octan> test
 test
[08:44] <abattoir> dhq: you helped yourself ;)
[08:44] <tom_> willis can you help me install the codec package
[08:45] <dhq> abattoir: not yet
[08:45] <abattoir> dhq: btw, 'passwd' is the command...
[08:45] <scion> this
[08:45] <scion> this
[08:45] <tom_> i've downloaded it and made a folder at /usr/local/lib
[08:46] <tom_> i don't understand the point of only giving a little bit of advice when people admit they're helpless
[08:46] <dhq> abattoir: after i do sudo passwd and change the password it still remains the old one
[08:47] <abattoir> dhq: for your user? or the root user?
[08:47] <dhq> root
[08:47] <Dr_willis> tom_,  it could be that i am at work..... and have other things to do.
[08:47] <abattoir> !root
[08:47] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:47] <abattoir> dhq: did you read that page?
[08:47] <Dr_willis> tom_,  i normally track down the w32codec.deb file and install that.
[08:47] <tom_> fair enough, but it's not just you
[08:48] <tom_> yes i've tried that
[08:48] <scion> d
[08:48] <Dr_willis> thats worked for me dozens of times tom_  perhaps thers some other issue going on then.
[08:49] <insanekane> maybe xine doesnt look in /usr/local/lib for the codecs
[08:49] <abattoir> tom_: you must understand that people here are volunteers, if they can help you, most of them will, its just that they might not have seen your question
[08:49] <abaldwin> hello
[08:49] <abaldwin> Im having dificulties trying to dualboot kubu and fedora
[08:49] <abaldwin> I cant seem to get either of them to configure grub to where I can access either
[08:50] <abaldwin> if I install fc first, then kubu, cant boot fedora
[08:50] <Dr_willis> plus about any question here. has been asked and answered in the forums or wiki pages
[08:50] <abaldwin> if I install kubu first, then fc, cant boot kubu
[08:50] <abaldwin> Im in my fc5 install now, attempting to edit grub.conf t oinclude kubu
[08:50] <tom_> i understand people are volunteers, but i've been asking for help on the same thing for a couple of days and people offer solutions but don't follow through on how to implement solutions....
[08:51] <dhq> abattoir: my password file was read only
[08:51] <dec_> is there a package that anyone knows about to create asp pages in ubuntu
[08:51] <tom_> believe me i've searched the forums, and the wiki
[08:51] <tom_> it's not very time efficient
[08:51] <abaldwin> can someone tell me again how to find the proper parameters to enter  for kubu? (ie, kernel init and root)?
[08:51] <dec_> is there a package that anyone knows about to create asp pages in ubuntu
[08:52] <abattoir> dhq: again, for root or for your account? if for root, then i'd expect sudo to give you control over it.... it didnt?
[08:52] <arunkale> dec_: dont think so
[08:52] <dec_> do you know of anything that is close in language
[08:52] <abattoir> abaldwin: do you know the initrd.img and kernel locations(in kubuntu) ?
[08:53] <scion> asp is MS .NET
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> abaldwin, whats the problem
[08:53] <abattoir> abaldwin: it generally is in /boot, but i'd need the exact version nos. too
[08:54] <abattoir> abaldwin: sorry, change the 'kernel' location to vmlinuz ;)
[08:54] <abattoir> :)
[08:54] <Dr_willis> tom_,  if youve installed the w32codec package then the stuff should be working.    I have installed the    w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb package.
[08:54] <Dr_willis> tom_,  so are you saying ALL videos fail to work.. or some.. or a specific one?
[08:54] <kyaneos> hi
[08:55] <kyaneos> i have aproblem: kpersonalizer starts everytime i log into kde
[08:55] <Dr_willis> http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/non-free/ is where i got the codec pac from.
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, its in the multiverse i think
[08:56] <abaldwin> I do not know the initrd and kernel locations, thats what I think I need
[08:56] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  yea i think it is as well.
[08:56] <abaldwin> I mounted the kubu partition and cded into boot, but ls says theres nothing in there
[08:56] <Dr_willis> !info win32codec
[08:56] <ubotu> Package win32codec does not exist in any distro I know
[08:56] <Dr_willis> !info win32codecs
[08:56] <ubotu> Package win32codecs does not exist in any distro I know
[08:57] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, it is for sure
[08:57] <Dr_willis> w32codecs - win32 binary codecs
[08:57] <kyaneos> can somebody help me?
[08:57] <Admiral_Chicago> kyaneos, whats the problem?
[08:57] <Dr_willis> w32 not win32 :P
[08:58] <kyaneos> Admiral_Chicago: kpersonalizer starts every time i login
[08:58] <scion> kyaneos: sorry do not use kpersonalizer
[08:58] <Admiral_Chicago> do a apt:/ in konqueror
[08:58] <abattoir> kyaneos: yes, that's a know bug, please remove ~/.kde/share/config/kpersonalizerrc
[08:59] <abattoir> abaldwin: really? are you sure?
[08:59] <abaldwin> hello, how do I figure out the paramenters to give grub to add my kubu install?
[08:59] <tom_> no videos are failing, i'm just setting up a fresh install
[08:59] <abaldwin> oh...yeah, I mounted the kubu instll partition and cd-ed to /boot did ls, got nothing
[08:59] <Dr_willis> !info w32codec
[08:59] <ubotu> Package w32codec does not exist in any distro I know
[08:59] <abaldwin> I had fc installe first, then instlled kubu, then couldnt boot to fedora.
[08:59] <Dr_willis> !info w32codecs
[08:59] <Dr_willis> Grr :P
[08:59] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (dapper-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[08:59] <abaldwin> so I reinstalled fedora, and now cant boot kubu
[09:00] <Admiral_Chicago> abaldwin, i think its /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:00] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure
[09:00] <abattoir> abaldwin: do other files exist in the 'kubuntu partition' ?
[09:00] <abaldwin> but the grub entry for kubu looks like it has nothing
[09:00] <Dr_willis> so you should be able to enable the extras repository, and apt-get install w32codecs
[09:00] <abaldwin> oh yeah, I can see verything there, /home, /mnt , /usr,...everything
[09:00] <Admiral_Chicago> abaldwin, check fdisk -l
[09:00] <Admiral_Chicago> might be a different name
[09:00] <tom_> right, i tried this before, but didn't know what to do with the deb
[09:00] <abaldwin> do I enter # check fdisk -1?
[09:01] <abaldwin> Or just do # fdisk -1
[09:01] <abattoir> abaldwin: i dont think you can boot it if you dont have an initrd img or vmlinuz... try searching for it in that partition
[09:01] <lupine_85> l (as in m), surely? not 1 (as in 2)
[09:01] <abaldwin> should be in /boot, shouldnt it?
[09:01] <abaldwin> it was before I reinstalled gc
[09:02] <abaldwin> is there anyone here that has a dualboot with FC andKubu?
[09:02] <abaldwin> it seems like whichever I install last takes over and rewrites grub and disallows or hoses the /boot int he other
[09:03] <abattoir> abaldwin: yes, it should be there, once you find it, you can add an entry for Kubuntu similar to the entry for FC(just modify the appropriate lines, for eg. hd(0,2), if kubuntu is in hda3 etc.)
[09:03] <abattoir> !grub
[09:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:03] <abattoir> abaldwin: ^^^ that might also help you
[09:03] <abattoir> abaldwin: i'm surprised that Kubuntu's Grub doesnt conatin an entry for FC5 when you install it
[09:04] <abattoir> abaldwin: i have to go now, so hope that helps...
[09:04] <fdoving> hi.
[09:04] <abattoir> hi fdoving :)
[09:04] <arunkale> ok kids
[09:04] <arunkale> i'm off to bed
[09:04] <fdoving> hi abattoir.
[09:04] <abattoir> arunkale: hah, we've now become the kids? :P
[09:04] <arunkale> hahahaha
[09:05] <abattoir> arunkale: g'night :)
[09:05] <arunkale> good night :)
[09:05] <abattoir> and only Tm_T can call us kids :)
[09:05] <tom_> well i downloaded w32codecs and did sudo dpkg -i was that the right thing to do?
[09:05] <arunkale> i'm just fooling around man
[09:05] <arunkale> heh
[09:05] <arunkale> see ya!
[09:05] <abattoir> as was i :)
[09:05] <Dr_willis> tom_,  thats what ive done in the past.
[09:05] <arunkale> kompose is excellent, btw
[09:05] <abaldwin> kubu didnt even give me an option to add another OS to grub, but fedora does, just, apparently, doesnt add it properly
[09:05] <abaldwin> thanks for your help
[09:06] <Dr_willis> or with the right repos set up. you can just apt-get install it.
[09:07] <tom_> seems to have installed properly
[09:07] <sync00> hey, how do I install a printer on kubuntu.. i can't seem to find a way to do so?
[09:07] <tom_> ended on
[09:07] <tom_> Unpacking w32codecs (from codecs.deb) ...
[09:07] <tom_> Setting up w32codecs (20060611-1plf1) ...
[09:07] <Dr_willis> hot-babe_0.2.2-1plf6.06_i386.deb    :)
[09:08] <Dr_willis> now thats a great program also.
[09:08] <fdoving> tom_, sounds like success :)
[09:08] <fdoving> sync00: system settings -> printers
[09:08] <trappist> Dr_willis: I turned that into a gkrellm plugin once :)
[09:08] <tom_> yes except mp3s are still not playing...
[09:08] <Tm_T> abattoir & kids
[09:08] <Tm_T> ;-P
[09:08] <Dr_willis> hmm w32codecs dont have to do with mp3's as far as i can rember...
[09:08] <Dr_willis> they are the video codecs.
[09:08] <tom_> oh ffs
[09:08] <Dr_willis> !mp3
[09:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:09] <tom_> right thanks for trying to help but i didn't say i was trying to install video codecs
[09:09] <Dr_willis> Hmm they need to tweak the urls a but in the bots info.
[09:09] <sync00> fdoving: what if printers isn't there?
[09:09] <fdoving> tom_, are you looking for mp3 support?
[09:09] <tom_> yes
[09:09] <kkathman> Dr_willis:  is that the chess program?
[09:09] <scion> tom_: libxine-extracodecs
[09:09] <fdoving> tom_ http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[09:09] <Dr_willis> actually i think the mp3 support is part of the gstreamer files.
[09:09] <trappist> Dr_willis: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/src/gkrellhotbabe-0.1.tar.bz2
[09:09] <trappist> Dr_willis: if you use gkrellm
[09:09] <fdoving> Dr_willis: not on dapper, for breezy that is true.
[09:10] <tom_> i've tried installing libxine-extracodecs before
[09:10] <tom_> i get
[09:10] <tom_> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:11] <fdoving> tom_, then enable multiverse.
[09:11] <tom_> i have, as far as i can see
[09:11] <fdoving> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:11] <ubuntu> habe ein problem mit meinem linksys-router wer kann mir helfen
[09:11] <fdoving> !de
[09:11] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:12] <abaldwin> please....does anyone know how I cn dual boot kubuntu and fedora?  each attempt has fail.  whichever I install last takes over grub and doesnt allow te other
[09:12] <scion> ok lads i have a question
[09:12] <abaldwin> when I edited grub from kubu attempt to boot fedora gave kernel panic, reinstalled fedora, now cant boot kubu
[09:13] <sinpath> ok i followed out the restricted formats intel & still i the format i try to use is unavelble
[09:13] <scion> anyone know how to get the middle button of my mouse working?
[09:13] <scion> i have a three button sun microsystems mouse
[09:13] <scion> and its usb
[09:13] <abaldwin> all I can find online is how to dualboot linux and windows.  I, just trying to dual boot 2 linux distros
[09:13] <Dr_willis> trappist,  woot... anime-porn-cpu-monitors rule. :P
[09:14] <ubuntu> habe nach kubuntu installation kein Internet zugang und kann auch nicht mehr auf den Router zugreifen
[09:14] <lupine_85> !anime-porn-cpu-monitors
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anime-porn-cpu-monitors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <Dr_willis> abaldwin,  you need to create the correct grub stanza to boot the other os then.
[09:14] <lupine_85> :'(
[09:14] <BonBonTheJon> how do i merge kopete logs
[09:14] <Dr_willis> tom_,  dont forget to 'sudo apt-get update' to rescan the repo lists after altering the repos.
[09:15] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. now how to get gkrellm to go into a kde panel nicely
[09:15] <abaldwin> first I install fc then kunu, couldnt boot fc, edited menu.lst, tried to boot fc got kernel panich
[09:16] <abaldwin> now, reinstlld fc, attempt to boot kubu gives entry not found, presently attempting to edit grub.conf to include kubu, but cant find the kernel and init parameters to give grub
[09:18] <abaldwin> I mounted the kubu partition and cd-ed to /boot, and cant find anything, now
[09:18] <BonBonTheJon> where would I find information about how kopete keeps its logs
[09:18] <cbo> does someone know how to make a legacy midi joystick work with kubuntu?
[09:19] <LockUp> Has Ubuntu standard KDE-control panel?
[09:19] <LockUp> *Kubuntu
[09:19] <tom_> somehow i enabled universe but neglected to uncomment multiverse
[09:19] <tom_> apt-get updating now
[09:19] <fdoving> LockUp: yes, but it's hidden by default. alt+f2 type 'kcontrol' and run.
[09:20] <tom_> still running slowly though
[09:20] <LockUp> Hidden? :o it isn't good idea
[09:20] <LockUp> It should be in menu. :)
[09:20] <altair_> does anyone play RTS games in kubuntu?, suggestions?
[09:20] <tom_> do i have to wait for apt-get update to finish before i can install things from the console?
[09:21] <scion> anyone help me with a 3 button mouse?
[09:23] <scion> anyone?
[09:23] <Dr_willis> scion,  what is it not doing? just not working?
[09:23] <fdoving> should work out of the box afaik.
[09:24] <cbo> does someone know how to make a legacy midi joystick work with kubuntu?
[09:24] <fdoving> haven't setup a mouse since.. years ago.
[09:24] <scion> fdoving: it works except the middle button
[09:25] <scion> fdoving: i want to be able to hold middle button and move up/down or left/right and firefox or any other windows scrollbars move in that direction also... if you catch my drift?
[09:25] <fdoving> scion: understand.. hang on.. connecting a usb mouse.
[09:26] <Hawkwind> Wasn't there a big discussion about that being added to Edgy in firefox in a meeting a week or two ago ?
[09:26] <scion> fdoving: cheers and it does not have a wheel, got it free at a java programmers conference and really like it
[09:28] <fdoving> scion: cool, get one for me too, mine says "microsoft"  :|
[09:28] <mrbrdo> scion: dunno if this helps, but i know logitech drivers do that on windows :P
[09:28] <scion> hehe, fdoving if i can i'll let you know... for real
[09:28] <fdoving> does this feature hava a name? click and drag for scrolling?
[09:29] <sinpath> hey does any one know about the grip (cd ripper)
[09:29] <fdoving> scion: great, thanks in advance :)
[09:29] <main2> how do i install this .deb on my machine.. http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fv%2Fvlc%2Fvlc_0.8.6-svn20060823.debian-3ubuntu1_i386.deb&md5sum=091eb72056b2b319dc3a31ac3ba5707f&arch=i386&type=main ???
[09:29] <scion> fdoving: i do not know, tried googling but eventually gave up
[09:29] <zorglu_> main2: get it thru the repository ?
[09:29] <scion> main2: download the file to desktop
[09:29] <scion> main2: cd ~/desktop
[09:30] <main2> scion: done, but then it leaves me with a lot of 'unfullfilled dependencies'
[09:30] <scion> main2: dpkg -i nameoffile.deb
[09:30] <main2> dpkg -i name.deb ... >>
[09:30] <main2> vlc depends on libasound2 (>> 1.0.11); however:
[09:30] <main2>   Version of libasound2 on system is 1.0.10-2ubuntu4.
[09:30] <sinpath> can any one tell me how good grip works for linuxs?
[09:30] <main2> and this for a lot more packages
[09:30] <scion> main2: well its better done using Adept, that collects dependencies required
[09:31] <zorglu_> main2: you should use the repository with adept/apt-get and not download it directly
[09:31] <main2> scion: yes, but i need this version
[09:31] <fdoving> scion: what programs does have this click and hold to scroll feature?
[09:31] <main2> the 0.8.4 in the dapper repository is 'damaged' lets say
[09:32] <scion> fdoving: many, an example would be a firefox window
[09:32] <main2> zorglu_: well, if i knew how to install this package trough adept....
[09:32] <scion> main2: whats so special about an older version of vlc player?
[09:33] <main2> scion 0.8.4 has problems with h264
[09:34] <fdoving> scion: my firefox doesn't do that, is it a extension or addon or something?
[09:35] <zorglu_> main2: ok if you want to install by hand, even if it is clearly much harder than using repository, the process in itself is quite simple, install yourself all the dependencies
[09:35] <scion> fdoving: another example would be viewing a large image at full size where there are both horizontal and vertical scrollbars
[09:35] <main2> zorglu_: that will take days
[09:36] <main2> because the deps of those deps can have deps ;)
[09:36] <zorglu_> main2: yep, but you said you wanted to do it :)
[09:36] <main2> did i?
[09:38] <zorglu_> main2: yes :) the point is how bad you want this ? do you want to do yourself the job usually done by people contributing ? or to wait for them to do it ?
[09:38] <sinpath> when some one is talking about gnome is that like linux to?
[09:39] <kkathman> sinpath:  yes, just a different desktop gui
[09:39] <sinpath> ok so if i get a prog for gnome it should work with what i have?
[09:40] <zorglu_> sinpath: yes, you can run kde or gnome programm on kubuntu
[09:40] <kkathman> sinpath:  depend on if you have the gnome dependencies installed
[09:41] <kkathman> and vice versa of course
[09:41] <sinpath> oh good cause  i was thinking of getting grip but said i had to have The Gnome2 desktop
[09:42] <zorglu_> grip is the normal 'side' of the kde 'k3b' ... to simplify :)
[09:42] <zorglu_> in theory you dont need the whole gnome-desktop for that
[09:42] <sinpath>  gnome dependencies installed ?
[09:43] <sinpath> ok so what do i need then?
[09:43] <zorglu_> only the libraries.. it is a 'bogus package' aka it went a bit too wide on the dependency
[09:43] <moparisthebest> on the command line, how can you show your RAM usage?
[09:43] <zorglu_> sinpath: you need the library on which grip depends
[09:44] <zorglu_> moparisthebest: type "free"
[09:44] <sinpath> ok were would i find that intel?
[09:44] <moparisthebest> thank you zorglu_ :)
[09:44] <Hawkwind> moparisthebest: free -m is a bit more human readable if you prefer :)
[09:45] <moparisthebest> ok, thanks
[09:45] <zorglu_> well not that much better :)
[09:45] <moparisthebest> It rounds them off at the mb level :)
[09:45] <Hawkwind> zorglu_: Easier to understand atleast
[09:49] <ronnylinux> hi guys i really want solve this problem
[09:49] <sinpath> whats the problem?
[09:49] <ronnylinux> i got this error
[09:49] <ronnylinux> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[09:49] <ronnylinux> how can i solve this
[09:50] <pure_morning> hi
[09:51] <sinpath> ok go to k> system>adept> hit get updates
[09:52] <ronnylinux> sinpath the message continues
[09:52] <ronnylinux> i found in forums that i have a problem with source.list
[09:52] <scion> any luck fdoving
[09:53] <sinpath> humm i dont know what else to tell you
[09:53] <ronnylinux> thanks anyway
[09:54] <sinpath> np keep asking im sure another person can help
[09:54] <ronnylinux> sure
[09:54] <ronnylinux> i got this error, does anybody can help me: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[09:55] <steveire> Is there a handy app to help me make simple html webpages? Preferable a kde app.
[09:55] <fdoving> scion: no, trying to find out what this feature is called.
[09:56] <hemerson> one site for themes kubuntu?
[09:56] <sinpath> google it
[09:56] <sinpath> hemerson
[09:56] <Dr_willis> theres a lot of kde themes in the repos - not isntalled by default as well
[09:56] <hemerson> :(
[09:56] <hemerson> one site specific
[09:57] <sinpath> >.< ya i have a hard time finding desktops lol
[09:58] <tdog> HI.. I need to install window on same system as linux . would it be better to install window first , then install linux ?
[10:01] <fdoving> scion: ok, i have something. try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the mouse section, add: Option "EmulateWheel" "true" and  Option "EmulateWheelButton" "2"
[10:01] <Dr_willis> tdog,  windows first, then ubuntu
[10:01] <nagyv> if I can listen to radio on my mobile, and have a data cable, then is there a way to listen to the radio with my laptop connected to the mobile?
[10:02] <altair_> tdog: install windows first, then linux
[10:02] <simo> #italia
[10:02] <simo> ce qualche italiano??
[10:03] <nagyv> !it > simo
[10:03] <fdoving> scion: like this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25826.html
[10:03] <nagyv> !hu > nagyv
[10:03] <fdoving> scion: be aware that pasting with the middle mousebutton will be disabled. you'll have to use left and right at the same time to paste.
[10:04] <fdoving> !no > fdoving
[10:05] <event> hi all
[10:05] <event> who me make download icons theme?
[10:05] <scion> fdoving: thank you
[10:05] <nagyv> event: you can get them in the system settings, where you can select the icon theme
[10:05] <scion> you want new icons event?
[10:05] <ronnylinux> i got this error, does anybody can help me: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[10:06] <event> scion yes man
[10:06] <event> news icons theme
[10:06] <nagyv> event: you can get them in the system settings, where you can select the icon theme
[10:06] <scion> event: http://www.kde-look.org is a good place for icons
[10:06] <nagyv> ronnylinux: then try running sudo apt-get update ;)
[10:06] <event> scion i have started download but the file is .tar.gz :\ its not .thmee
[10:06] <scion> event: that is ok
[10:07] <event> but .tar.gz its not acepted :\
[10:07] <ronnylinux> nagyv i tried that, but the problem continue
[10:07] <scion> event: give me the link to the iconset
[10:08] <event> man anyone icon theme in this site its .tar.gz :\
[10:08] <supertanker> Just out of curisosity
[10:08] <supertanker> WHY the heck doesn't Kubuntu come with make?
[10:08] <event> lol
[10:08] <lupine_85> it does :D
[10:09] <Dr_willis> normal user/desktop system does not need the gcc compiler system  :P
[10:09] <supertanker> seriously
[10:09] <event> scion u have icons themes?
[10:09] <lupine_85> just not installed by default
[10:09] <scion> event go to system settings>appearence>icons and press install new theme button, then point to the gzipped tarball you downloaded
[10:09] <fdoving> supertanker: regular desktop-users doesn't need it. and those who need it know how to get it.
[10:09] <Dr_willis> its trivial to isntall build-essential
[10:09] <supertanker> Not when all the packages are in the virtual group
[10:09] <lupine_85> personally, I'd be a bit annoyed if kubuntu-desktop depended on the whole repo
[10:09] <nagyv> supertanker: because it's a user friendly linux. Have you ever built anything under windows?
[10:09] <supertanker> yes.
[10:09] <Dr_willis> and if you are going to have that installed.. then where do you stop? how abou all the -dev packages...
[10:09] <supertanker> BZFlag-2.0.4
[10:09] <lupine_85> it's good fun, wot? ;)
[10:09] <scion> event: its not a theme, its an iconset
[10:09] <event> man
[10:10] <event> in program i cant see the button :\
[10:10] <supertanker> so is there any way to get it to install it by default?
[10:10] <Dr_willis> a theme is often composed of servarl parts. an icon set, window decoration, and.. err somting else..
[10:10] <Dr_willis> brbl
[10:10] <scion> event: i will post a screenshot
[10:10] <poseidon> How can I get transluceny/shadows?
[10:10] <sinpath> ok guys how do install java?
[10:10] <supertanker> why is everything in the virtual group?
[10:10] <event> scion ok thkx
[10:11] <main2> could anyone tell me what the latest available version is of VLC in the multiverse?
[10:11] <event> scion after, give me a link on pvt ok?
[10:11] <main2> of dapper offcial repos.
[10:11] <nickv111> I don't understand this: my kaffeine can't play any media, while mplayer can
[10:11] <lupine_85> !info vlc dapper
[10:11] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[10:11] <nickv111> For example, I gave kaffeine a .avi that it can't play, but mplayer can play it
[10:11] <nickv111> Every time I give kaffeine a file, it's unable to play it, while mplayer has no problem
[10:11] <ronnylinux>  i got this error, does anybody can help me: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[10:12] <supertanker> I have to say, the entire apt system leaves a bit to be desired
[10:12] <lostwars> Did you try to run update?
[10:12] <event> scion in momment u upload screen?
[10:12] <sinpath> i already told him & he still gets it
[10:13] <scion> event: be patient
[10:13] <ryanakca> fdoving: ping
[10:13] <event> ok ty
[10:13] <scion> event: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24703
[10:13] <event> brb smook
[10:13] <ronnylinux> yes i tried losstwars the problem continue
[10:13] <event> ty
[10:14] <lostwars> Well don't feel bad. Someone here knows what to do. Heck I can't even get gkrellm to start when I boot my system.
[10:14] <lostwars> Whats the name of the file where I can make a program run at KDE start-up?
[10:14] <event> man
[10:14] <event> :\
[10:14] <ronnylinux> i don't want to reinstall kubuntu, in some forums i read this is a serious problem
[10:14] <ronnylinux> who can help me?
[10:14] <event> scion: i know install de theme but the file is not .theme :\ its a .tar.gz
[10:15] <sinpath> if arunkale was on he could
[10:16] <nagyv> ronnylinux: try also the #ubuntu channel
[10:16] <sinpath> does  any one know how i can install java?
[10:16] <scion> event: one second, go have your smoke and i will have an answer for you
[10:17] <fdoving> ryanakca: ack.
[10:17] <altair_> steveire: you can try nvu or quanta plus, though you can even write webpages in a simple editor:  kwrite and kate are good.
[10:17] <event> scion back
[10:18] <scion> event I took down a file called SnowIsh-kde-1.3_build.tar.bz2
[10:18] <scion> event: that installed fine for me the way I told you
[10:18] <event> :X
[10:18] <steveire> I've got quanta now altair_, yeah, looks like the business. It's a lot to get into by the look of it though. I think I'll just need to read about tables and use KAte
[10:18] <event> w8 please
[10:19] <steveire> altair_: Have you used Quanta
[10:19] <steveire> ?
[10:19] <steveire> I can't seem to find any preview of the page I make.
[10:19] <event> scion my icons are http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=44609
[10:19] <event> i downloaded
[10:20] <scion> downloading now
[10:20] <altair_> steveire: yup, though i prefer a simple editor and good reference for hatm and css
[10:20] <event> ok w8
[10:20] <altair_> html i meant
[10:21] <ronnylinux> i got this error, does anybody can help me: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[10:21] <scion> event: except when i click download button it opens an image
[10:21] <event> yes
[10:21] <event> lol
[10:21] <event> i download others icons
[10:21] <event> w8
[10:22] <scion> wheres the tar.qzip
[10:22] <aztun> ronnylinux: look at your processes and kill everything related to apt or adept
[10:22] <scion> *gzip
[10:22] <event> done
[10:22] <event> scion http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=38707
[10:22] <aztun> or reboot your computer
[10:22] <event> i downloaded that
[10:22] <event> name of the file is 38707-Plasti-K-beta-icon-theme-0.000.b.30.tar
[10:22] <sinpath> ronnylinux try the #ubuntu channel for more intel on your problem
[10:22] <event> now i install new theme icons and i cant :X
[10:23] <altair_> steveire:  usually visual editors get in the way of good html code, i highly recommend getting a good grasp of html and css first
[10:23] <steveire> I don't intend to be a pro at this stuff, but yeah, I'll have a look at some html stuff.
[10:24] <altair_> steveire: doing that, any editor with sixtax highlight suffices
[10:25] <steveire> Well, quanta has code completion and suggestion too, which is a big plus in my book.
[10:25] <scion> event: sorry, can't help its a messed up prob you got there
[10:25] <altair_> steveire:  yup, it's ok
[10:26] <Buffy-_> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=34188
[10:26] <event> ok ty anyone
[10:29] <altair_> steveire:  www.w3schools.com, www.csszengarden.com   are good references
[10:30] <nagyv> I think that my laptop has a TV-tuner card, but I don't know wheather it is recognized. How could I check it? (Asus a2500d)
[10:30] <altair_> steveire: I suggest getting the web developer extension in firefox too, it's a big help
[10:30] <scion> steveire: i use kate to write the code and firefox to preview
[10:31] <altair_> scion: me too
[10:31] <nickv111> nagyv: What makes you think that you have a TV tuner card?
[10:32] <steveire> Oh, I have a web developer set up for firefox already. I've learned heaps of javascript. I used Kate for that of course. I'd just like an easy way to have my tables set out for me and to preview the resulting html in real time. No substitute for w3schooling though I know.
[10:32] <nagyv> nickv111: there is a a tv-like icon near one of the ports
[10:32] <scion> altair_: its the only way to be, WYSWYG editors destroy your code
[10:33] <marcelloDoItBeTt> ciao
[10:33] <marcelloDoItBeTt> ho bisogno d'aiuto...
[10:33] <nagyv> steveire: as I know nvu is very wysiwyg, but I have never used it
[10:33] <nickv111> marcelloDoItBeTt: Adios
[10:33] <nagyv> marcelloDoItBeTt: !it
[10:33] <nagyv> !it
[10:33] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:33] <altair_> scion: totally agree
[10:34] <steveire> nagyv: I assume there's some wysiwyg stuff in quanta, but it's a bit hidden to me...
[10:34] <nickv111> Perhaps this is an opportunity to brush up on my Spanish skills ;)
[10:34] <nagyv> steveire: I don't know, I code tables by hand too :)
[10:35] <nagyv> nickv111: noooo, help me with my tv-card! :)
[10:35] <nickv111> nagyv: L'see
[10:35] <nickv111> nagyv: Hmm. I don't know where to begin. I suppose an "lspci" would be in order
[10:36] <nagyv> nickv111: and what should I look for?
[10:37] <altair_> steveire:  last time iI used quanta it didn't have any visual edition but thats better, wysiwyg gets in the way in the long term
[10:38] <tolkan> DOes anyone know how to stop the kwallet
[10:38] <tolkan> from asking all those damn passwords everytime i startup?
[10:38] <Dr_willis> look in the kwallet settings...
[10:38] <Dr_willis> it has an abundance of options
[10:38] <steveire> altair_: wysiwyg isn't even that important to me. I'd just like to avoid Save file > alt-tab to ff > f5 to see result of updates. If I could display what I was doing in an ide, tat would be better. I'm not above learning how to do it properly. I just want to see the result where I'm working.
[10:39] <steveire> s/tat/that
[10:39] <tolkan> Dr_willis: yes i have done that.  the options arent working.  when my K session starts up, the first application that wants to use the wallet asks me for my wallet password.  Then every application after that does not.  H
[10:39] <nagyv> nickv111: I have only a TV-out :(
[10:40] <event> scion are u there?
[10:41] <nagyv> tolkan: actually this is kwallet is for, as far as I know
[10:41] <juanlinares79> hi!someone knows how to install mac/ubuntu/windows into a pc amd athlon?
[10:41] <tolkan> nagyv: is there a way to bind kwallet to authenticate when i logon through KDM?
[10:42] <event> i try install a theme to linux, i see the install.txt file and i write in console ./configure but error ocurred:
[10:42] <event> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[10:42] <event> See `config.log' for more details.
[10:42] <event> somebody help me?
[10:42] <altair_> steveire:  oh well, i just got used to doing things that way long time ago..
[10:43] <tolkan> event: do apt-get install build-essential
[10:43] <tolkan> event: that will install compilers so you can build stuff on your installation
[10:43] <altair_> steveire:  so l got less dependent on a particular tool
[10:44] <event> tolkan who me identify root?
[10:44] <fdoving> scion: if you want this scrolling feature in konqueror; inside konq -> settings -> configure konqueror -> uncheck "middle click opens selected web address"
[10:45] <event> tolkan do u know?
[10:45] <tolkan> event: you'll have to do install as root.  if thats what you mean.
[10:45] <event> but who me identify a root?
[10:45] <troy> event: use your regular password in 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[10:46] <event> sudo ?
[10:46] <event> ah
[10:46] <event> ty
[10:46] <event> and sorry my english, im portuguese :P
[10:46] <troy> event: no problem :)
[10:46] <event> ty ;p
[10:47] <nickv111> If only everyone could learn Esperanto
[10:49] <troy> nickv111: klingon is better :)
[10:49] <nagyv> how can I configure irda on my laptop? (asus a2500d)
[10:50] <mikefoo> Ok so I have a NAS device mounted and dd reports that I copied 1G of data at 290MB/sec over a gigabit link, isn't the max 80MB/sec'ish ?
[10:50] <scion> thanks fdoving
[10:51] <zorglu_> mikefoo: linux is fast :) or morelikely it is not yet flushed ?
[10:51] <troy> mikefoo: sure it isn't Mb instead of MB?
[10:51] <Buffy-_> thats megabit
[10:51] <Buffy-_> MB Byte, Mb bit
[10:52] <lupine_85> and Mn nibble :p
[10:52] <Buffy-_> FA
[10:52] <steveire> altair_, nagyv: Not sure if you're interested, but I had another look at quanta, and it previews if you press f6.
[10:52] <zorglu_> it is why i always say mbit or mbyte instead to avoid such confusion :)
[10:52] <nagyv> steveire: thx, but not really :)
[10:53] <steveire> hehe
[10:53] <Buffy-_> not a bad idea, but i would have thought that those that dont know the difference between MB and Mb would also not know the difference between mbit and mbyte
[10:54] <event> troy do u know me install amule?
[10:54] <zorglu_> i do that mainly because i never remember which abreviation representes which unit :)
[10:54] <troy> event: nope, I use ktorrent
[10:54] <event> ty
[10:54] <event> somebody knows?
[10:54] <altair_> steveire: thank you for the tip.
[10:54] <event> danke
[10:55] <pete> How do I add support for .wmv?
[10:55] <lupine_85> !plf
[10:55] <zorglu_> !restricted
[10:55] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[10:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:55] <lupine_85> !w32codecs
[10:55] <pete> Thanks =)
[10:55] <JonTec__> can I make a Shared Documents folder on the network for my linux computer (it's one of those low level "home or small office networks")
[10:55] <troy> I don't recommend plf unless nothing else works...
[10:55] <Buffy-_> !beer
[10:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <supertanker> I convert all mine to .flac or .ogg
[10:56] <Buffy-_> !birds and the bees
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about birds and the bees - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <Buffy-_> had to do it
[10:56] <Buffy-_> lool
[10:56] <pete> haha
[10:56] <Buffy-_> needed a "the" in there
[10:56] <JonTec__> !libxine-extracodecs
[10:56] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[10:57] <troy> hahaha, you'd likely run out of space :)
[10:57] <JonTec__> !yo mamma
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yo mamma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <lupine_85> You'd need to use \*
[10:57] <JonTec__> ahaha
[10:57] <Buffy-_> :D
[10:57] <pete> haha
[10:57] <lupine_85> !botsnack
[10:57] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:58] <Buffy-_> !spam
[10:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:58] <Buffy-_> oh
[10:58] <troy> pete: well, the dapper->edgy conversion is something like 966 files for me, at 700MB... so considering there's some several thousand packages in the system...
[10:58] <pete> !women
[10:58] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[10:58] <pete> Gah
[10:58] <pete> That didn't work as expected -_-
[10:58] <supertanker> lol
[10:58] <pete> troy: Yeah. My box would probably blow up =P
[10:59] <poseidon> !men
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about men - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <Buffy-_> lol
[10:59] <troy> some op should put a gereral ban on this channel for people that IRC as root
[11:00] <pete> !bathing
[11:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bathing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:00] <pete> We should probably stop this now =P
[11:00] <pete> Yeah, my bad.
[11:01] <Buffy-_> fun while it lasted
[11:01] <altair_> !easyubuntu
[11:01] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:01] <zorglu_> !men
[11:01] <altair_> !vlc
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about men - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:02] <altair_> you can use easyubuntu or videlolan vlc to add support for wmv
[11:03] <draik> Hello everyone
[11:04] <m3xican> !apache
[11:04] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[11:04] <dek> where are .sh scripts located?
[11:05] <draik> If I have i686 installed/running, but still have the linux-module-386 not being upgraded or such, what do I do to remove it from my list of pending upgrades? Or what happens if I were to install it?
[11:08] <fleissigfiona> is there a way to save your session status so that some programs in certain desktops will come up automatically when you start up
[11:09] <draik> fleissigfiona, create a link to them under  ~/.kde/Autostart/
[11:10] <troy> fleissigfiona: and if you want to give them parameters, like which desktop to autostart on, lauch them with kstart instead of directly
[11:16] <supertanker> is there a text-based installer for Kubuntu that doesn't involve me downloading a CD on dialup?
[11:17] <supertanker> for Kubuntu 6.06?
[11:17] <TheGateKeeper> supertanker: the only text installer I know is the alternate CD
[11:17] <supertanker> that sucks
[11:18] <fleissigfiona> troy: where is kstart?
[11:19] <poseidon> "whereis kstart"
[11:19] <supertanker> logical
[11:20] <fleissigfiona> whereis kstart
[11:20] <TheGateKeeper> supertanker: not sure what ubuntu send you in the post, but you can linux install CD's, various web sites do it
[11:20] <fleissigfiona> ?
[11:20] <zorglu_> wow just spotted a japanese box trying to crack mine
[11:20] <draik> fleissigfiona, in Konsole
[11:20] <lupine_85> in terminal :)
[11:20] <fleissigfiona> oh ahah
[11:20] <troy> kstart is a command line program that can be used to launch other programs
[11:20] <m3xican> !dosfsck
[11:20] <fleissigfiona> yes just worked that out
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dosfsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <fleissigfiona> good
[11:20] <lupine_85> fsck.vfat
[11:21] <troy> it accepts parameters to specify desktop #, size, etc.
[11:21] <lupine_85> zorglu_: I get a lot from Russia
[11:21] <lupine_85> rsa++
[11:21] <menace> when i try to open adept, it says its already running, but its not, is there a way to fix this?
[11:22] <poseidon> zorglu_: how can you tell?
[11:22] <zorglu_> lupine_85: mine is rather unskilled, dictionnary attack on ssh. but what worry me is how does it get on my sshd, aka thru the firewall
[11:22] <lupine_85> zorglu_: ipv6 ?
[11:22] <zorglu_> poseidon: weird traffic and then /var/log/auth.log
[11:22] <TheGateKeeper> menace: sudo killall adept
[11:23] <menace> thegatekeeper: it says no process killed
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper> menace: you clicking on the menu item?
[11:24] <menace> yes
[11:24] <menace> and the box pops up and asks for my password
[11:25] <ahmad_> how to disable the root account? i had enabled it
[11:25] <menace> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one
[11:25] <menace> thats my error
[11:25] <TheGateKeeper> so put your password in and press ok
[11:25] <menace> i got that error though ^^^
[11:26] <menace> this just started a few days ago....
[11:27] <luca_b> menace: sudo killall adept_updater
[11:27] <TheGateKeeper> menace: logging off & logging on does not sort it?
[11:27] <troy> ahmad_: sudo passwd -l root
[11:27] <menace> no, ive tried that gate keeper
[11:28] <menace> luca_b:adept_updater: no process killed
[11:28] <TheGateKeeper> try luca_b suggestion
[11:28] <luca_b> menace: hmmm
[11:28] <ahmad_> ok troy... thnx
[11:28] <luca_b> menace: execute sudo apt-get update on the terminal
[11:29] <luca_b> menace: (I need to check which file is in use)
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> menace: now for the sledge hammer: sudo rm -f <--- try if locked
[11:29] <menace> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:29] <luca_b> ok
[11:29] <luca_b> menace: just do that
[11:29] <menace> the "sudo rm -f" thing?
[11:29] <luca_b> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:29] <menace> ok
[11:29] <fdoving> !adept crash fix
[11:29] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this command in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> menace: no
[11:29] <fdoving> menace: ^^
[11:29] <menace> ... too many things
[11:29] <menace> which one?
[11:29] <fdoving> mine.
[11:29] <fdoving> :)
[11:29] <luca_b> fdoving: that was the thing!
[11:30] <luca_b> fdoving: I forgot about the lock
[11:30] <TheGateKeeper> menace: you have broken packages you need to fix them before going further, do what it says in the error message
[11:32] <menace> i did the dpkg thing,
[11:32] <menace> and i go this errror
[11:32] <ukjadoon> hello all
[11:33] <menace> Setting up lkl (0.1.1-1) ...
[11:33] <menace> Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.68~ubuntu1~dapper1) ...
[11:33] <menace> Downloading...  done.
[11:33] <menace> usage: update-rc.d [-n]  [-f]  <basename> remove
[11:33] <menace>        update-rc.d [-n]  <basename> defaults [NN | sNN kNN]
[11:33] <menace>        update-rc.d [-n]  <basename> start|stop NN runlvl [runlvl]  [...]  .
[11:33] <menace>                 -n: not really
[11:33] <fdoving> menace: please don't paste in the channel
[11:33] <menace>                 -f: force
[11:33] <fdoving> !pastebiun
[11:33] <menace> dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):
[11:33] <fdoving> !pastebin
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebiun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:33] <menace>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:33] <menace> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:33] <menace>  flashplugin-nonfree
[11:33] <menace> wow i didnt think it'd do that....
[11:33] <menace> sorry
[11:33] <menace> yes sorry
[11:33] <ukjadoon> i tried the ubuntu forum but i guess everyone's kinda busy there i needed heeeeeeeeelp my kubuntu as well as ubunty 6.06 setup hangs up at the mounting root screen and it is getting on my nervers =(
[11:34] <TheGateKeeper> menace: can you uninstall the flash plugin?
[11:34] <luca_b> menace: that's a known issue
[11:34] <ukjadoon> i tried removing one of my 2 dvd drives, i tried adding the root= command as well as the irqpoll command but nothing works it just doesn't get past that
[11:34] <menace> how could i do it?
[11:34] <luca_b> menace: if you know enough of the command line, you can fix it
[11:35] <ukjadoon> i am so pissed i just got my shipment of the cds today and nothing works #$%#$%^#$%
[11:35] <luca_b> menace: let's try this
[11:35] <luca_b> hey zorglu_
[11:35] <zorglu_> hey
[11:35] <menace> k sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree?
[11:35] <luca_b> menace:no
[11:35] <luca_b> menace: do a sudo cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postinst
[11:35] <luca_b> er
[11:35] <luca_b> wait, forgot a part
[11:35] <menace> ok
[11:35] <zorglu_> luca_b: my isp updated remotly by asdl modem and fails to tell me he removed the firewall conf
[11:36] <luca_b>  cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postinst  | grep multiuser
[11:36] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: he want rid of the damn thing
[11:36] <luca_b> zorglu_: erf
[11:36] <zorglu_> for the last 8days i had people trying to guess my passwd
[11:36] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: that is just a bug in the post-install script
[11:36] <troy> so far edgy update is running smoothly...
[11:36] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: you found a workaround?
[11:37] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: yeah
[11:37] <menace> update-rc.d flashplugin-nonfree multiuser >/dev/null
[11:37] <menace> thats good?
[11:37] <luca_b> yes so
[11:37] <ukjadoon> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i guess there is no workaround for the dapper 6.06 mounting root problem :(
[11:37] <luca_b> do this
[11:37] <luca_b> onbe sec
[11:38] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: you posted this workaround anywhere?, I removed it and installed a debian one
[11:38] <luca_b> sudo sed -i -e 's/multiuser/defaults/g' /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postinst
[11:38] <menace> i do that?
[11:38] <luca_b> yes
[11:38] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: just told that around here
[11:39] <luca_b> after executing that command, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree
[11:39] <altair_> !lamp
[11:39] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[11:40] <luca_b> it's just a "typo" in the post-installation script
[11:40] <menace>         /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: flashplugin-nonfree is broken or not fully installed
[11:40] <luca_b> hmm
[11:40] <luca_b> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:41] <menace> ok it re downloaded
[11:41] <menace> now what
[11:41] <luca_b> it gave you a prompt? no more errors?
[11:41] <menace> yes
[11:41] <luca_b> fixed
[11:41] <menace> thank you very much
[11:41] <menace> was it just that my flash plugin went corrupt?
[11:41] <luca_b> menace: yes
[11:41] <menace> ok
[11:42] <luca_b> menace: not corrupted, jyust a typo in the script that went unnoticed
[11:42] <menace> ok
[11:42] <menace> all is working fine
[11:42] <menace> thanks luca
[11:42] <luca_b> Is there a place where I could put this thing up? I believe thsi affected many
[11:42] <Electrolyte> Wow, that was the first time I've ever seen nano crash, and use 100% CPU in the background.
[11:44] <menace> adept is wanting to upgrade my flashplugin now...should i go ahead and update it?
[11:44] <luca_b> menace: yes, that fixes the problem you workarounded at the root
[11:44] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: well hope you don't mind, I have put it on my page of bits & bobs: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home2
[11:44] <menace> ok
[11:44] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: go ahead, it's no problem
[11:45] <luca_b> One could have just edited the file, but I wanted to use some shell magic 8P
[11:45] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: thanx, don't know if anyone will visit it, but at least it's there :-)
[11:46] <menace> whats the URL gatekeeper?
[11:46] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: do you know if the firefox updates are safe to do?
[11:46] <TheGateKeeper> menace: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home2
[11:46] <menace> k
[11:47] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: usually yes
[11:47] <TheGateKeeper> menace: it's just my collection of bits & pieces I have found usefull
[11:47] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: updated without problem here
[11:47] <menace> nice
[11:48] <ukjadoon> i can't get past the mounting root... thingy, both in ubuntu and kubuntu, someone please help me =( i cannot proceed to install ubuntu or kubuntu 6.06 cause of this
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: right thanx, I don't trust them anymore after this flash problem & the X problem, so I ask now :-)
[11:48] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: other distros have far worse packaging problems, I'd say
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> menace: hope you find it usefull
[11:48] <menace> yes i do
[11:48] <luca_b> ukjadoon: what is the error you get when mounting?
[11:49] <ukjadoon> well thank u so much for listening luca_b
[11:49] <luca_b> ukjadoon: try putting this at the prompt
[11:49] <ukjadoon> well it just hangs up there
[11:49] <luca_b> ukjadoon: install CD or live CD?
[11:49] <ukjadoon> well i just got 1 cd with my shipment
[11:49] <luca_b> ok it's the live
[11:50] <ukjadoon> yeah
[11:50] <ukjadoon> it just hangs up there
[11:50] <ukjadoon> nothing happens
[11:50] <luca_b> ukjadoon: at the prompt
[11:50] <ukjadoon> for almost 10 minutes
[11:50] <luca_b> ukjadoon: type "live noapic" without quotes
[11:50] <ukjadoon> ohhh
[11:50] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: well gentoo proving a bastard to install, just installed kororaa (faster way to install gentoo) & I am still going to have to spend a couple of hours fixing stuff before I can start to use it
[11:50] <ukjadoon> i should type this after the thing hangs up?
[11:51] <luca_b> ukjadoon: when you boot up
[11:51] <luca_b> ukjadoon: it should say "press RETURN" etc etc etc
[11:51] <ukjadoon> when i boot up i get 5 options i think
[11:51] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: thanx for the fix :-)
[11:51] <ukjadoon> i have to install or run it live
[11:51] <luca_b> ukjadoon: there is something like "boot: " written down, right
[11:51] <ukjadoon> sorry lol i am a newbie
[11:51] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: np
[11:51] <luca_b> ukjadoon: at that prompt
[11:51] <luca_b> ukjadoon: write "live noapic"
[11:52] <ukjadoon> hmmmm ok
[11:52] <ukjadoon> at the boot options?
[11:52] <luca_b> yeah
[11:52] <ukjadoon> i can access that by pressing f6
[11:52] <ukjadoon> oh and what about the rest of the command line
[11:52] <luca_b> you don't need to push f-keys
[11:52] <luca_b> you'll just see you can type
[11:52] <ukjadoon> do i have to write this at the end of the command line? the splash-- live noapic
[11:53] <luca_b> ukjadoon: if you look, you'll see a line that says "boot:" at the bottom of the screen
[11:53] <luca_b> yes, just type "live noapic"
[11:53] <ukjadoon> ohhhh
[11:53] <ukjadoon> ok:d
[11:53] <luca_b> that will boot up the live CD disabling an option that causes woes on some motherboards
[11:53] <ukjadoon> :D
[11:53] <ukjadoon> well i will try this out immediately
[11:53] <luca_b> ukjadoon: if it still doesn't work, there are other similar options you can try
[11:54] <ukjadoon> and if it works mannnn i just don't know how to thank u:D:D:D:D:D
[11:54] <ukjadoon> hmmm
[11:54] <ukjadoon> what r the other options?
[11:54] <luca_b> ukjadoon: such as "live nolapic", "live noapic nolapic", "live acpi=ht", "live acpi=off"
[11:54] <luca_b> the last turns a LOT of things off
[11:54] <ukjadoon> ohhhh
[11:54] <luca_b> so use it only if you can' boot without anything else
[11:54] <luca_b> can't, rather
[11:55] <ukjadoon> is it really something like a USB port problem or something
[11:55] <ukjadoon> or does it vary with different computers?
[11:55] <luca_b> ukjadoon: it varies
[11:55] <luca_b> ukjadoon: mostly due to BIOS bugs
[11:56] <ukjadoon> weird
[11:56] <luca_b> ukjadoon: manufacturers often bend standards in their own ways, hence why such things occur
[11:56] <ukjadoon> why did they release a buggy version of ubuntu and kubuntu?
[11:56] <luca_b> ukjadoon: it's not a distro bug
[11:56] <ukjadoon> would the same commands work in kubuntu setup too?
[11:56] <luca_b> ukjadoon: but a hardware bug
[11:56] <luca_b> ukjadoon: yes, kubuntu and ubuntu use the same kernel
[11:57] <ukjadoon> wow i am really new to this stuff, i am a C++ programmer and all but i have always been a windows user
[11:57] <ukjadoon> i never really stepped into linux waters
[11:57] <ukjadoon> this is my first time:D
[11:57] <poseidon> SHARK!!!! :O
[11:57] <ukjadoon> i am really so glad u helped me out with this luca_b
[11:57] <ukjadoon> \m/\m/
[11:57] <luca_b> ukjadoon: no problem
[11:58] <ukjadoon> thank u so much *HAILS*
[11:58] <ukjadoon> i better try it out then =D
[11:58] <luca_b> ukjadoon: yep
[11:59] <ukjadoon> oh and should i install ubuntu first
[11:59] <ukjadoon> and then install kubuntu on top of it or something?
[11:59] <luca_b> ukjadoon: if you install ubuntu and then you want to change to kubuntu
[11:59] <luca_b> ukjadoon: simply install the "kubuntu-desktop" package
[11:59] <tom_> having trouble installing libxine-extracodecs
[12:00] <ukjadoon> oh alright i wrote all of that down
[12:00] <tom_> I get "Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[12:00] <ukjadoon> thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanx a kazillion luca_b u da man
[12:00] <ukjadoon> i better reboot and try it out then
[12:00] <ukjadoon> peace my friend\m/\m/
[12:00] <luca_b> tom_:  one sec, checking that package
[12:01] <luca_b> tom_: Do you have the multiverse repo enabled?
[12:01] <tom_> i think so
[12:01] <tom_> i've got "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse"
[12:01] <tom_> in my sources.list, is that right?
[12:01] <luca_b> tom_:  are you using edgy eft?
[12:01] <TheGateKeeper> anyone know how to configure ekiga?
[12:01] <tom_> yeah
[12:02] <luca_b> !ubuntu+1
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu+1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <luca_b> er
[12:02] <luca_b> tom_:  go ask in #ubuntu+1 - this channel is for the stable versions only
[12:02] <luca_b> if I recall
[12:02] <TheGateKeeper> bad bot day lol
[12:02] <luca_b> that's the channel
[12:02] <tom_> hmm
[12:02] <tom_> i don't think this is down to edgy though...
[12:03] <tom_> will give it a try though, thanks
[12:03] <fdoving> tom_,i doubt edgy have a backport archive yet.
[12:03] <fdoving> tom_, but other than that the rest looks good.
[12:03] <tom_> is that where libxine-extracodecs comes from?
[12:03] <luca_b> backports is another set of repo's
[12:04] <luca_b> you should check if you have something
[12:04] <luca_b> deb http://xx.ubuntu.org/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe ultiverse
[12:04] <luca_b> where xx is your country code or something
[12:04] <luca_b> er
[12:04] <luca_b> change "ultiverse" with "multiverse", typo
[12:05] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: you use Voice over IP?
[12:05] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: seldomly, why?
[12:06] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: looking for something that I can get to work
[12:06] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: I use only p2p VoIP programs though (e.g. skype)
[12:07] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: ok thanx