[12:14] <orange_lady> whois orangelady
[12:14] <hackman2007> how do I install the build-essential package?
[12:14] <word> trappist: i get an error saying mythfrontend: cannot connect to X server :1 :-/ is there a way i can find out what the x server's name is?
[12:15] <hackman2007> anyone know how to install the build-essential package in Kubuntu?
[12:16] <Agios> apt-get install build-essencial
[12:17] <hackman2007> k
[12:17] <hackman2007> thanks
[12:17] <Agios> np
[12:17] <gnomefreak> build-essential
[12:19] <orange_lady> hackman2007: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:20] <pagan0ne> can someone help me with xorg.config i have an issue with my dual head setup where the desktop doesnt fit on my monitor, it scrolls from edge to edge
[12:22] <word> pagan0ne: all the time or have you restarted x since the problem started?
[12:23] <gravespit> how do i get unrar?
[12:24] <DaSkreech> apt-get install unrar
[12:24] <jordanR> unrar-free
[12:24] <DaSkreech> Whatever :)
[12:24] <gravespit> ahhh okey thanks!
[12:24] <pagan0ne> can someone help me with xorg.config i have an issue with my dual head setup where the desktop doesnt fit on my monitor, it scrolls from edge to edge
[12:25] <word> pagan0ne: all the time or have you restarted x since the problem started?
[12:25] <gravespit> couldnt find the package unrar-free
[12:25] <word> pagan0ne: before you start repeating yourself maybe you should watch for replies..
[12:25] <jordanR> gravespit: just sec
[12:25] <pagan0ne> word: i had sevral client crashse, but the problem developed immedently after i switched to nvidia drivers and set up my dual display setup
[12:26] <pagan0ne> word: sorry about the repeats, but everythime i said sompthing, i got disconnected
[12:26] <gravespit> jordanR:okey
[12:26] <DaSkreech> gravespit: You have universe?
[12:26] <word> pagan0ne: are you using dapper?
[12:27] <jordanR> yeah is it apt-get unrar-free check the site. http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/utils/
[12:27] <gravespit> DaSkreech: think so
[12:27] <jordanR> opps
[12:27] <jordanR> apt-get install unrar-free
[12:27] <pagan0ne> word: yep, fresh install, did an update using adept, then installed nvidia drivers and tried to get 2nd display up and running
[12:27] <gravespit> well that dont work so maybe i dont have universe?
[12:28] <word> did you follow the tutorial NvidiaTVOut on the wiki?
[12:28] <DaSkreech> gravespit: I would say yes :-) can you pastebin your sources?
[12:28] <word> pagan0ne: ^
[12:28] <gravespit> DaSkreech: sure if you tell me where i can see it? was in it long time ago
[12:28] <pagan0ne> word: im not using the tv output, im using the vga and dvi outputs (dvi using the supplied dvi2vga converter that comes with nvidia cards
[12:28] <orange_lady> gravespit: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:29] <DaSkreech> gravespit: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:29] <word> pagan0ne: did you follow the tutorial NvidiaTVOut on the wiki?
[12:29] <word> (yes or no question) :P
[12:29] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Where'd you get narried?
[12:30] <gravespit> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20596
[12:30] <pagan0ne> word: im looking at it now, i was just using the toold provided to me from the "system settings" menu, i dont know much about xorg config
[12:30] <darkyoshi372> How can I watch streaming H.264, or whatever format Apple is using to stream WWDC? I want to watch it.
[12:31] <orange_lady> gravespit: do you have breezy?
[12:31] <apallo19> can someone help me mount a shared folder?
[12:32] <word> pastebin your xorg config pagan0ne
[12:32] <gravespit> orange_lady: ive got unrar-free now
[12:32] <orange_lady> gravespit: how?
[12:33] <gravespit> orange_lady: tokk away the # in front of the universe repositories, and updated and tried again and i t worked
[12:34] <orange_lady> gravespit: great, found it out yourself..., btw, do you still have breezy or do you just have an old sources.list?
[12:34] <apallo19> i have a shared drive on my windows box that i want to mount as a drive on my kubuntu box, but it isn't working. Could someone help me?
[12:35] <gravespit> orange_lady: still have breezy :)
[12:35] <DaSkreech> gravespit: I was jsut noting that
[12:35] <gravespit> orange_lady: but how can i make it work with Ark?
[12:35] <orange_lady> gravespit: why? just a question?
[12:36] <DaSkreech> gravespit: I think It should work now
[12:36] <gravespit> orange_lady: Whyi have Breezy? well it works :)
[12:36] <orange_lady> gravespit: i actually don't know, I'm a newbie myself and haven't used Ark...
[12:37] <gravespit> DaSkreech: nah i doesnt work
[12:38] <DaSkreech> Strange worked for me :-(
[12:38] <DaSkreech> at least I think it did I don't recall doing anything etra
[12:38] <DaSkreech> you can unrar from the command line?
[12:38] <apallo19> do i need voice to be seen here?
[12:38] <jordanR> nope
[12:39] <apallo19> ahh, just being ignored then
[12:39] <gravespit> DaSkreech: unrar <filename> <path>  ?
[12:39] <jordanR> or no one can help you out :)
[12:40] <DaSkreech> apallo19: Don't know about mount
[12:40] <DaSkreech>  have you tried smb:/ ?
[12:40] <apallo19> that's true
[12:40] <apallo19> yep
[12:40] <orange_lady> apallo19: what have you done so far? I'm a newbie so i don't think i can help you much, but i'll try
[12:40] <apallo19> i've tried about 10 variations of mount
[12:40] <DaSkreech> And it's there?
[12:40] <apallo19> i have tried doing it from the drive thingy in kde
[12:41] <apallo19> it keeps failing, and i'm at a loss as to why
[12:41] <terrilsj> hello, i need some help with grub, is this the right channel
[12:41] <apallo19> i just wanna listen to my mp3's
[12:41] <ru> kubuntu just installed - yippee
[12:41] <DaSkreech> What command are you using?
[12:42] <terrilsj> when i install grub from kubuntu - it recognizes my sata drive as hd2 and only installs that way
[12:42] <ru> can someone tell me is there a vnc server built into kubuntu? I can only find client software so far (linux nube)
[12:42] <terrilsj> however at boot time, i have to hit e and edit the line to hd0
[12:42] <terrilsj> if i edit menu.lst , grub automatically changes it
[12:42] <DaSkreech> ru:  check under internet in the KMeu
[12:43] <terrilsj> and i have to keep just editing it at boot time
[12:43] <DaSkreech> apallo19: so you can see it in smb:/ ?
[12:43] <apallo19> yes
[12:44] <apallo19> but it wont mount
[12:44] <DaSkreech> but you can't go into it?
[12:44] <DaSkreech> What does it say?
[12:44] <apallo19> when i run mount  -t smbfs -o username=foo,password=bar //servername/mp3 /mnt/mp3
[12:44] <apallo19> it comes back telling me that the wrong fs is picked
[12:45] <apallo19> when i change it to autofs or ntfs, it tells me it cant find the drive
[12:46] <ru> DaSkreech: Its not there :( how can I install it?
[12:47] <apallo19> all the guides tell me to use smbmount, but it's not installed
[12:47] <DaSkreech> apallo19: Then apt-get install smbount
[12:47] <apallo19> i tried that, says it can't find it
[12:47] <DaSkreech> ru: Oh wait vnc
[12:47] <DaSkreech> Umm
[12:48] <DaSkreech> ru: Know how to use adept?
[12:48] <ru> DaSkreech: yip
[12:48] <DaSkreech> ru then Go to it :)
[12:48] <mrono_> two questions
[12:48] <DaSkreech> Search for VNC and see which one you like
[12:48] <apallo19> and apt-get doesn't know where it is, or what it is
[12:49] <mrono_> 1, what's the required packages to configure, make, etc
[12:49] <DaSkreech> apallo19: Maybe smbclinet?
[12:49] <mrono_> 2, how do I make the desktop change with the mouse
[12:49] <DaSkreech> apallo19: Smb4k I mean
[12:49] <DaSkreech> !b-e > mrono_
[12:50] <apallo19> that it found
[12:50] <apallo19> :)
[12:50] <DaSkreech> mrono_: Not sure what you mean
[12:50] <actinic> mrono_, answer to #1 i believe is 'build-essential'
[12:51] <mrono_> yep
[12:52] <mrono_> I want the desktop to change to the right when the mouse goes to the right side, as well as te left
[12:52] <mrono_> btw, it looks like someone deleted the configure page, it's still in the recent edits.
[12:53] <actinic> hey everyone i've started a kubuntu linux folding@home team ...
[12:53] <actinic> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7868.0
[12:53] <actinic> now let's catch Ubuntu :)
[12:53] <DaSkreech> How big are they?
[12:53] <actinic> huge
[12:54] <DaSkreech> Phat Huge?
[12:54] <apallo19> thank you soooo much daskreech
[12:54] <apallo19> it worked!@
[12:54] <actinic> even phatter
[12:54] <DaSkreech> apallo19: Jammin now?
[12:54] <apallo19> yepp
[12:55] <actinic> here's Ubuntu:  http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=45104
[12:56] <actinic> and here's us: http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=51238
[12:56] <actinic> :( see the difference?
[12:56] <larson999> !ati
[12:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:57] <DaSkreech> actinic: Not really. seems pretty close :)
[12:57] <actinic> lol, well they've got a bit of a head start :)
[12:58] <actinic> !windows
[12:58] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[12:58] <Firetech> I have a strange problem with kdm/X.org/The Kernel in Dapper (I update often, yes.). Everytime I cold-boot the machine (which thankfully isn't often), all I get is a black screen after the boot process. I can't switch to tty, I can't do anything. I have to press the reset button, but the next boot works fine. It happens everytime I cold boot, and sometimes when I reboot after a long uptime too...
[12:58] <Firetech> The syslog shows nothing strange
[12:59] <Firetech> It seems to be a kernel panic, since the machine isn't reachable via ssh...
[12:59] <larson999> so i went and done: i bought a computer with embedded ati.  i guess i'll see how the drivers are coming along.
[01:03] <LeeJunFan> larson999: laptop?
[01:03] <LeeJunFan> larson999: I'm happy to report that the newest drivers FINALLY will allow me to suspend to RAM.
[01:03] <hackman2007> build essential still won't build, it says "Invalid operation :(
[01:04] <gnomefreak> hackman2007: what command?
[01:04] <DaSkreech> hackman2007: What does?
[01:04] <hackman2007> sudo apt-get build-essential
[01:04] <gnomefreak> build essential isnt a command you use its a meta package
[01:04] <gnomefreak> install
[01:04] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:04] <gnomefreak> hackman2007: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:04] <Jucato> or better yet, "sudo aptitude install build-essential" (without the quotes)
[01:05] <mrono_> hmm
[01:05] <hackman2007> oh ok
[01:05] <hackman2007> I just typed in what I typed lol
[01:05] <DaSkreech> hackman2007: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:05] <larson999> LeeJunFan: no, i display model from circuit city.  was pretty packed for only $350.  my 6 year old mobo finally died and after telling my wife i'd need a mobo, cpu, and ram, she let me get a new system because all of that would have added up to nearly as much or more than that
[01:05] <mrono_> I'm doing a configure and it's looking for the 'x includes'
[01:05] <hackman2007> I didn't type the install part ;)
[01:05] <hackman2007> it's working now :D
[01:07] <mrono_> what do i need?
[01:07] <DaSkreech> mrono_: Just checking what are you installing?
[01:08] <mrono_> i'm configuring a modified version of lipstik
[01:08] <mrono_> I found what i'm looking for
[01:08] <mrono_> RMPL i guess
[01:08] <hackman2007> do I have to install a graphics driver for Kubuntu?
[01:09] <DaSkreech> hackman2007: Do you have graphics?
[01:09] <hackman2007> I have integrated graphics
[01:10] <DaSkreech> Umm. Well If you can see then I think that you should be good
[01:10] <hackman2007> lol
[01:11] <LeeJunFan> mrono_: you probably want x-dev, xserver-xorg-dev, x11proto-core-dev, libx11-dev   --- one of those may depend on the others, I don't recall.
[01:13] <henk> Hi, I have a sd cardreader in my laptop and I'm trying to use it. If I insert an sd card (2G), dmesg tells me that a mmcblk0 was found and it even shows the 2G. But If i do a cfdisk on it to create some partition tables the do not become persistant. Dmesg shows me an error about block0 not being read and about hardware interupts timeout. Does this sound familiar? does anyone know how to get this working ?
[01:24] <Pagan0ne> ok this is getting really annoying, i still cant get the xorg problem fixed, and it seems kubuntu is extreamly unstable on my system
[01:25] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: what xorg problem? and is the unstability known to be related or not to the xorg problem?
[01:27] <Dasnipa`> hmm can someone help me get the s/pdif digital output working on my soundcard?
[01:27] <apallo19> is there a terminal command to list the process that are running?
[01:27] <Dasnipa`> apallo19, top
[01:28] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: i just setup xorg to run nvidia drivers, with a dual head display, and when i changed the resolution, the desktop became larger than the monitor, causing a scrolling issue inside of each monitor. about the instability, im not sure, but it seems my system randomly hangs between 20-40 miniutes of uptime, i cannot telnet into it, and ctrl+alt+bk-space doesnt work, mouse still responds, but it stuck moving around on
[01:28] <apallo19> thanks
[01:28] <LeeJunFan> apallo19: ps - I like ps xauw
[01:28] <newbie_1000> Anyone know about installing Gecko on Konqueror?
[01:28] <Dasnipa`> apallo19, also ps -aux
[01:29] <newbie_1000> who's here?
[01:32] <Agios> If you want Gecko why not just use Firefox?
[01:32] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: im sorry did you get my last message, it seems i got disconnected....
[01:33] <newbie_1000> I like how Konqueror integrates with KDE. I know it can be done, but how?
[01:33] <Jucato> I don't think Gecko can be installed on Konqueror, as it uses its own engine (KHTML, on which Mac OS X's Safari is based)
[01:33] <newbie_1000> I know about KHTML, but I was googling and there is way to put Gecko into Konqueror as a KPart, KMozilla.
[01:34] <DaSkreech> Jucato: There is a thingy to switch the engien to gecko :)
[01:34] <Jucato> newbie_1000: that project was abandoned a few years ago
[01:34] <Jucato> DaSkreech: you're not talking about Browser Identification are you?
[01:34] <newbie_1000> really?
[01:34] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Nope :-P
[01:34] <Jucato> DaSkreech: care to share?
[01:35] <newbie_1000> rendering engine
[01:35] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: yeah. Sry - I haven't had the opportunity to play with nvidia or dual monitors so I'm afraid I can't be much help there.
[01:35] <Jucato> DaSkreech: open source your knowledge. :-D
[01:35] <newbie_1000> I like the integrated Gecko's. K-Meleon on windows, Galeon on GNOME, is there a QT Gecko?
[01:36] <DaSkreech> newbie_1000: Another abandoned project
[01:36] <taylor> can some tell me how to install azureus without the need to install mozilla, since i already have firefox
[01:36] <newbie_1000> so, XUL is the toolkit to use?
[01:36] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: yeah it got so annoying i had to boot back indo windows to chat, because every time i tried to get on irc to get help, i would get told to google it, or read the wiki, by the time i read and understood the wiki, and compaired it to my own settings, still to no avil, my system would freeze, and id need to reboot...
[01:37] <taylor> when i do an 'apt-get install azureus' it wants to install mozilla as a dep
[01:38] <Jucato> I thought Mozilla doesn't ship Gecko without Firefox as of now? an Ubuntu devs said that it's one of the reasons why Firefox can't be uninstalled in Ubuntu. But how come Epiphany ang Galen can use Gecko? (presuming Epiphany is using Gecko)
[01:40] <DaSkreech> Pagan0ne: No problem using one system to debug another
[01:41] <taylor> is there a no dependancy option for apt-get?
[01:41] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: well i just cant figure out why a 2+ year old install of xp should be stanle but a brand new default install of kubunutu, with the only modification being im running nvidia drivers should be so unstable
[01:41] <newbie_1000> What do I have to do to configure WINE?
[01:42] <DaSkreech> sinecfg
[01:42] <hackman2007> how do I install firefox on Kubuntu?
[01:42] <DaSkreech> Pagan0ne: is it unstable before the drivers?
[01:42] <Jucato> hackman2007: sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:42] <DaSkreech> hackman2007: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[01:42] <newbie_1000> or use Add/Remove Programs.
[01:42] <newbie_1000> If you like GUIS
[01:43] <newbie_1000> *GUIs
[01:43] <hackman2007> nah I hate the Kubuntu GUI lol
[01:43] <hackman2007> sometimes it's just easier to do it with Konsole
[01:43] <taylor> is there a no dependency option for apt-get?  I don't know why I need to have mozilla for azureus, b/c i have firefox installed
[01:44] <paul_> lol @ DaSkreech
[01:44] <hackman2007> any good software I should look into?
[01:44] <taylor> and when i go to remove mozilla it unistalls azureus
[01:44] <newbie_1000> hope nothing breaks in this upgrade. It's got two minutes left of downloading.
[01:45] <hackman2007> ok I did that sudo command
[01:45] <hackman2007> anything else I have to do to install it?
[01:45] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: arg this is so annoying, ive been wi it since like 3 today, and i cant get any help from anyone on irc, and although kubunutu works alot better on my system (asfar as having hardware support... i can accualy get dual heads up and running, and it now reconices my webcam and nic right off the bat) it is now more unstable than i can deal with and its just stressing me out
[01:45] <newbie_1000> hackman2007: I know you don't like the GUI, but it's great for browsing available software and stuff, even if you don't install with it
[01:45] <soulrider> !seen tk
[01:45] <ubotu> I last saw tk<EMAIL_ADDRESS>18m 13s ago, quiting: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
[01:46] <soulrider> damn, i allways miss him!
[01:46] <DaSkreech> Pagan0ne: What's happening?
[01:46] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: ive been waiting to change over to 100% linux now for like 5 years, and every time i look into it theres features on windows that linux doesnt have that i cant live without, not linux finally supports everything i need, its more unstable than windows
[01:46] <soulrider> anyways, does anoye have any idea of why i canm mount my usb drive manually but not using KDE?
[01:47] <Jucato> soulrider: are you using KDE 3.5.4?
[01:47] <maltaethiron> can i get azureus on kubuntu??
[01:47] <soulrider> yes
[01:47] <soulrider> until yesterday i ahd no problem
[01:47] <soulrider> but niw its screwed
[01:47] <Jucato> when did you upgrade to KDE 3.5.4?
[01:47] <soulrider> funny thing is i had a problem that fixed itself:
[01:47] <soulrider> uhm
[01:47] <soulrider> week ago?
[01:47] <soulrider> or more
[01:47] <Jucato> oh
[01:48] <Jucato> I think there's a bug with KDE 3.5.4 and HAL in Kubuntu...
[01:48] <soulrider> yea
[01:49] <soulrider> i upgraded hAL today
[01:49] <newbie_1000> hey, just curios, but which version of Debian does *Ubuntu correspond to?
[01:49] <maltaethiron> guys, can anyone tell me if azureus is available for kde?
[01:49] <soulrider> its weird
[01:49] <soulrider> i could mount my pen drive well but in home i didnt see my ntfs drives
[01:49] <Skrot> maltaethiron: It's java, so yes.
[01:49] <Jucato> AFAIK, Debian Sid
[01:49] <soulrider> now i see my ntfs drives but i cant mount
[01:49] <maltaethiron> !azureus
[01:49] <DaSkreech> Pagan0ne: What's Happening
[01:49] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[01:50] <taylor> maltaehiron you can get azureus with kubuntu
[01:50] <LeeJunFan> bah, just use ktorrent.
[01:51] <taylor> the problem is it just wants to install a bunch of deps like Mozilla for some reason
[01:51] <newbie_1000> I'd just as soon use KTorrent. I don't use torrent much anyways.
[01:51] <taylor> LeeJunFan does ktorrent offer the end to end encryption?
[01:51] <actinic> opera's bittorrent is quite nice
[01:51] <Skrot> It offers "protocol encryption"
[01:51] <LeeJunFan> taylor: the newest version 2.0 does if you compile from source.
[01:52] <soulrider> taylor it does
[01:52] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: well my kds desktop doesnt fir on my monitor, ie when i mouse to the edge of the screen, ir scrolls more desktop onto the screen, and every 20-40 miniutes the system freezes completly, i cant telnet in, ctrl+alt+bk-space wont work, and the mouse is trapped on the monitor it was on, and everything is just locked, like kde went kaput and took everything but X with it. (ie i can move my mouse around on that monitor
[01:52] <Skrot> So.. is there an "official" ecryption protocol for bittorrent?
[01:52] <taylor> its not in the repos yet?
[01:52] <LeeJunFan> taylor: only for edgy
[01:52] <LeeJunFan> unstable
[01:52] <taylor> i moved away from gentoo b/c i got tired of compiling
[01:52] <actinic> Pagan0ne, is this issue repeatable using the liveCD?
[01:52] <taylor> but after all its only one program
[01:53] <LeeJunFan> Skrot: yeah, it's meant to confuse ISP's who limit or block filesharing.
[01:53] <Jucato> isn't there a KTorrent 2.0 .deb package for Dapper on their site?
[01:53] <Skrot> LeeJunFan: I see. My main concern was if there was a "standard" for it
[01:53] <taylor> i'll check it out, in the mean time does any1 know if there is option for no dependencies
[01:53] <Pagan0ne> Skrot: well it doesnt seem there will ever be an official encryption method as Bram Cohen doesnt beleave that is the answer to bittorrents problems
[01:53] <DaSkreech> Pagan0ne: have you tried #ubuntu-xgl or #nvidia ?
[01:53] <LeeJunFan> taylor: yeah, I agree with that. But like you said - it's only one program. I compile only a few things on my system, kopete, ktorrent and madwifi-ng, everything else is from repositories.
[01:53] <taylor> so i can say apt-get install <no deps=mozilla> azurues
[01:54] <goemon4> hey all, can anyone help me with openGL and sdl (on where to get them)
[01:54] <Skrot> Pagan0ne: I get that. But if a lot of clients deceide on one, it'll be the defacto way of encryping bittorrent :)
[01:54] <Pagan0ne> actinic: using the live-cd i cant get it to come up in dual display mode, as i needed to install the nvidia drivers to do that
[01:54] <Pagan0ne> actinic: as far as locking up i havent had it in live-cd mode long enough to find out, but i dont think so
[01:55] <taylor> i like to stick w/ ktorrent but for some reason some of the torrent files take forever to start in ktorrent, but then they load up right away on azureus
[01:55] <actinic> Pagan0ne, in your research are there issues with dual display?
[01:55] <taylor> azureus is a bit of a cpu hog
[01:55] <LeeJunFan> taylor: I had that problem too with the older versions, but as soon as I updated to 2.0 those files that had all been waiting forever started downloading.
[01:56] <Jucato> actually, it's more of a RAM hog, IIRC
[01:56] <taylor> well then ill give it a shot
[01:56] <Pagan0ne> actinic: i havent ever been able to find any information that is of any use to me for dual display systems, but no i havent seen anyone else complain of this problem, or of any other simmilar issues with dual head systems
[01:56] <taylor> i definitly like the ability to search within the client like ktorrent offers
[01:57] <taylor> nice ktorrent offers a deb on their site
[01:57] <taylor> for 2.0
[01:57] <taylor> http://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads
[01:58] <willnapier> Hi is anyone out there? I'm new to irc
[01:58] <hackman2007> it won't let me get into add/remove programs anymore, it says "conversation with su failed"
[01:58] <willnapier> oo there is!
[01:58] <hackman2007> hi
[01:58] <DaSkreech> Skrot: What' about encryption?
[01:58] <willnapier> hi hackman
[01:58] <LeeJunFan> taylor: I tried that the other day and didn't get any plugins with it, so I compiled from source and was okay.
[01:59] <actinic> Pagan0ne, does this thread apply? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=468997
[01:59] <taylor> ok, ill will compile then
[02:00] <DaSkreech> willnapier: Hi
[02:00] <willnapier> Hi DaSkreech
[02:00] <DaSkreech> Welcome to IRC
[02:01] <willnapier> I'm looking for advice on getting KMobileTools up and running
[02:01] <willnapier> thanks
[02:01] <DaSkreech> Well I don't know what Kmobiletools are. Something to help you carry hammers?
[02:02] <Pagan0ne> actinic: well that doesnt rea;;y hit either of my issues on the head
[02:02] <DaSkreech> Pagan0ne: #nvidia ?
[02:02] <willnapier> Something to manage cellphone/mobilephone contacts
[02:02] <willnapier> from your pc
[02:02] <Pagan0ne> actinic: my first issue is that my desktop is larger than my monitor, unless i reduce my resolution to sompthing like 800x600 on my 19"monitor
[02:03] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: i think its more of a xorg.conf problem than a driver problem, only reason i mentioned i was using nvidia drivers is because i couldnt even get dual display running w/o them
[02:03] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: can you put your /etc/X11/xorg.conf on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[02:03] <DaSkreech> Pagan0ne: Is it unstable before the drivers?
[02:04] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech well when i went back to running standard nv drivers i beleave it was just as unstable
[02:04] <actinic> if it's unstable with a liveCD it could be overheating or some other hardware prob
[02:05] <Pagan0ne> actinic: i dont think its a heat issue, my system runs pretty cool, and its stable in my 2+ yr old install of xp, ive had uptimes of months in my xp install
[02:07] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20606 i posted it, it is the file generated by the install, and kubunutu's own setup utilities....
[02:07] <DaSkreech> Pagan0ne: Do you have any logs of the crashes?
[02:09] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: where could i go to look for the logs, i have looked at log files before, however they never make much sence to me...
[02:09] <DaSkreech> Erm.. the X logs?
[02:10] <DaSkreech> I forget gimmie a second
[02:11] <LeeJunFan>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log I think.
[02:11] <DaSkreech>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:12] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: i have 2 log files, i just coppied over to my windows partition
[02:13] <DaSkreech> Man there should be a way to ignore / commands
[02:13] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: to me the logs fdont show any signs of a crash or a panic
[02:14] <DaSkreech> Your system freezes though?
[02:14] <DaSkreech>  can you ssh in?
[02:14] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: i cant ssh in and ctrl+alt+backspace doesnt work either
[02:14] <JRH3K5> !quota
[02:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quota - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:14] <JRH3K5> !disk quota
[02:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about disk quota - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:14] <JRH3K5> >:(\
[02:14] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: I thought I would see something in your config that would explain why your resolution was low, but view area was high, but nothing really.
[02:15] <DaSkreech> ssh in not working is a pretty bad sign
[02:15] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: well my resolution is high, but i can only see like 80% of the desktop on screen, if i move mouse to edge of screen, it scrolls over to show the rest of the desktop
[02:17] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: try running xwininfo in a shell, then click on your background image [not a window]  and see what it says for geometry.
[02:17] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: ah, you're not running it now are you?
[02:17] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: the only log that shows signs of trouble is evms-engine.log
[02:17] <DaSkreech> Does the time seem about right?
[02:18] <rocketman768> anyone know how to use bluetooth with bitpim?
[02:18] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: no i booted into xp so i could stay on irc longer as previously i kept being told to read the man, or the wiki, and by the time i was done, my system was locked
[02:18] <rocketman768> or can anyone tell me what "port" i should direct bitpim to?
[02:18] <Pagan0ne> h/o let me see if i can setup another system so i can chat on that one while working on this one
[02:18] <belatucadros> I can't seem to get wine to install it saays package is missing or obsolete
[02:20] <DaSkreech> Pagan0ne: Wouldn't happen to have a live cd?
[02:21] <DaSkreech> belatucadros: Where are you installing it from?
[02:21] <belatucadros> CLI
[02:22] <Pagan0ne> DaSkreech: yes thats what i installed off of, i just installed it today
[02:22] <DaSkreech> belatucadros: I mean what repository
[02:22] <belatucadros> lol nvm I somehow managed to fix it lol
[02:22] <belatucadros> I just disabled the DVD use for packages and enabled all the repositories guess that must have done it for it
[02:23] <dek> I don't know wtf happened but I now get KPersonalizer every time I boot Linux, the desktop runs extremely slow (even mouse pointer) and when it starts to work OK after some minutes, desktop becomes blank. When I reboot again I get KPersonalizer and this behaviour repeats. Any help?
[02:24] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: your desktop spans 2 monitors, when you move your mouse to the left edge does just one monitor scroll the image or does it scroll the whole image across both monitors?
[02:27] <DaSkreech> dek:turn off Kpersonalizer maybe?
[02:28] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: ok well say both monitors are on the far left, i start moving my mouse to the right, monitor 2 does nothing, mouse on monitor 1 moves toward edge of screen, mouse gets to what looks like the edge, instead of moving to monitor 2, it pushes the monitor over to view the other 20% of the desktop, then it rolls onto monitor 2, it then moves accrost monitor 2, and again when it gets to what looks like the egde, it pus
[02:28] <dek> uninstall?
[02:28] <dek> will remove, lets see if it helps
[02:29] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: so both monitors scroll but individually?
[02:29] <Pagan0ne> yes
[02:31] <declan> HI! anyone wanna do a Dr. House and help diagnose a problem with apt?
[02:31] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: there's an option called ViewPort for X that might help that, it looks like the default res when you boot is going to be 1280x1024 on the gateway, and 1024x768 on the other monitor. If you add ViewPort 1280 1024 line to the subsection display and 1024 768 to the other one it may fix the scrolling problem.
[02:32] <LeeJunFan> declan: it's pigeon poop, you've been growing your weed on the roof and pigeons are pooping in it - mad you sick.
[02:32] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: can you provide a breif example including the line above and below where this option should go?
[02:33] <DaSkreech> dek: You have it in the system tray?
[02:33] <dek> I now removed KPersonalizer to see if it helped but i still get extremely slow desktop at startup, then background turns black and icons disappear. What's wrong?
[02:33] <declan> damn! I forgot the first 3 diagnoses are always wrong! And Linux always lies
[02:33] <dek> no, only Konversation in tray
[02:34] <DaSkreech> declan: second opinon. You need some sysmptms to diagnose?
[02:35] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20608
[02:35] <Viper550> I made a nice new Grub splash, wanna see?
[02:36] <DaSkreech> Viper550: Why not?
[02:36] <Viper550> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=44238
[02:36] <DaSkreech> dek: Do you have a saved session?
[02:36] <Viper550> Goes nice with Kubuntu's new default colors
[02:36] <declan> I have internet connection as evidenced by me being here. Konqueror also works ok. However, apt-get cannot connect. I have tried many source lists including ones that are known to work fine. still, it just times out!
[02:36] <DaSkreech> declan: can you pastebin your sources?
[02:36] <belatucadros> damn mac users are azzhats
[02:37] <DaSkreech> belatucadros: All Computer users are :-)
[02:37] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: if you change your resolution then you'll want to change those viewports to match, by default X will start with the first resolution listed in modes line in display subsection, so if you later want to change your resolution just put the one you want first in the list.
[02:37] <belatucadros> I guess your right there
[02:37] <declan> sure, but im pretty sure its not that. I just reinstalled the system. Didn't help.
[02:37] <DaSkreech> declan: can You ping the servers?
[02:37] <belatucadros> this guy was telling me if I go out and buy the Mac OSX I can't legally install it on any hardware I want
[02:38] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: when it comes to manualy editing a config file, your talking to someone who could mess up editing a lilo.conf file with no problem
[02:38] <drbreen> blatucadros: can't you compile darwin for your pc and put os  files on top of it ?
[02:38] <LeeJunFan> declan: 2 things to verify. 1. you can DNS lookup the server (host [repository hostname] ), and that you're not using any kind of proxy.
[02:39] <dek> DaSkreech: manually you mean? How do I do that?
[02:39] <declan> pasted it. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20609
[02:39] <belatucadros> I was talking about buying a legit Mac OS and doing a plain from scratch install on an AMD system
[02:39] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf.working first.
[02:39] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: im loading up an old PII 266MHZ system so i can chat on irc while on my main box, h/o and i can get into some more indepth troubleshooting
[02:39] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: then you can restore from the working one later if needed.
[02:39] <belatucadros> not compiling necessary since the one I would purchase is the x86 edition
[02:39] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: ive already got 3 copys of it i know to backup before i start
[02:40] <declan> LeeJunFan: You'll have to talk me through those. I'm more or less a newbie.
[02:40] <belatucadros> and the only way for the ppl of mac to tell is if they were invading your privacy which is a huge no no
[02:40] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: it just seems whenever i take advice from strangers whatever they tell me never works, and what they tell me wont work, works
[02:41] <belatucadros> would be nice if I coudl get my copy of cedega to install on kubuntu but it doens't seem to want to
[02:41] <Pagan0ne> lol, my room now looks like hacker heaven, i got like 6 monitors, only 2 of which are actualy on a desk, the rest are sitting ontop of coverless cases, running old hardware :^
[02:42] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: well, like I said I'm not an nvidia or xinerama user, but that scrolling you are talking about would be caused by the viewport stuff, so I figured maybe I can help you with at least that one issue.
[02:42] <glj12> hi all!
[02:42] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: i would appreciate it, if you give me a second, and let this old dinasour boot, then i can log on from there, and if anything goes wrong maby ill have a better shot at fixing it
[02:43] <glj12> i absolutely kubuntu, just wanted to let you guys know, except for one problem...
[02:43] <glj12> konquerer is painfully slow for wifi, and my connection signal is very strong, and 3mbps dsl connection
[02:43] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[02:43] <glj12> so i wanted to use firefox instead
[02:43] <Commander-Crowe> I got Kubuntu today
[02:43] <LeeJunFan> declan: first I guess, can you open konsole and 'ping gb.archive.ubuntu.com' ?
[02:43] <glj12> sweet
[02:43] <DaSkreech> dek: I never said manually
[02:44] <glj12> but do you know how to install firefox?
[02:44] <Commander-Crowe> I want to install it right alongside with ubuntu and xubuntu
[02:44] <glj12> cool
[02:44] <Commander-Crowe> without removing Xubuntu and UBuntu
[02:44] <belatucadros> sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:44] <glj12> multi boot with grub?
[02:44] <Commander-Crowe> how is this accomplised>
[02:44] <glj12> i did that
[02:44] <glj12> let me give you the error message belatucadros
[02:44] <belatucadros> k
[02:44] <dek> DaSkreech: where does KDE save it's configuration files? maybe if I completely delete them...
[02:45] <glj12> However the following packages replace it:
[02:45] <glj12>   libnss3
[02:45] <glj12> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[02:45] <Commander-Crowe> no anser?
[02:45] <Commander-Crowe> answer*
[02:45] <glj12> Commander-Crowe: I am a noob, sorry. :(
[02:45] <belatucadros> did you try sudo apt-get update
[02:45] <belatucadros> and then the install
[02:45] <glj12> i am more of a knoppix guy
[02:45] <Commander-Crowe> I have the Kubuntu disc
[02:45] <glj12> i did, yes, and update stated...
[02:45] <Commander-Crowe> but no internet on that computer
[02:46] <belatucadros> well thats odd Ive never had that problem
[02:46] <glj12> Reading package lists... Done
[02:46] <glj12> thats all it says
[02:46] <glj12> then it goes back to the glj12@lordofatlantis blah blah
[02:46] <Pagan0ne> damn it takes forever for a 266Mhz machine to load up the latest kubunutu live cd :^
[02:46] <glj12> lol Pagan0ne
[02:46] <belatucadros> once the update is done just try again and if it still doesn't work Im not to sure what the prob could be
[02:47] <LeeJunFan> Pagan0ne: it doesn't help if the CD drive is 2x or something :p
[02:47] <glj12> belatucadros: yeah, already done all of that
[02:47] <Pagan0ne> LeeJunFan: lol its 24x, not that it matters much, it only has 100Mb sd ram
[02:47] <glj12> belatucadros: so i mean... no other ideas? :(
[02:47] <LeeJunFan> declan: you still there?
[02:47] <declan> LeeJunFan: Arghh. It won't stop; 64 bytes from gb.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=108 ttl=52 time=29.0 ms
[02:47] <belatucadros> could be maybe a repository but Im unsure on that one
[02:48] <LeeJunFan> declan: hit ctrl-c
[02:48] <glj12> hmm... can you refer me to anyone else?
[02:48] <rocketman768> how do i refer to a serial port on a bluetooth device?
[02:48] <declan> LeeJunFan: ah. good. So, does that mean its working or not working?
[02:48] <belatucadros> possibly DaSkreech
[02:48] <LeeJunFan> declan: you got responses so that means you CAN reach the servers, now try this 'ping -s 1472 -M do gb.archive.ubuntu.com' and see if that works.
[02:49] <Pagan0ne> lol its been 10 miniutes and its just now loading HAL
[02:49] <glj12> ok, thanks belatucadros
[02:49] <belatucadros> no probs
[02:49] <LeeJunFan> declan: that means you have a working route for traffic to pass between you and the repository, but now we need to figure out why it's not passing the traffic.
[02:49] <glj12> DaSkreech: Hi, are you around?
[02:49] <declan> LeeJunFan:
[02:49] <declan> 6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 5004ms
[02:49] <declan> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 81.612/82.111/82.528/0.270 ms
[02:49] <glj12> DaSkreech: I am having dificulty retrieving firefox via apt-get and Adept.
[02:50] <declan> LeeJunFan: Seems to work there too.
[02:50] <LeeJunFan> declan: okay, that means it's not an MTU problem (honestly that was a far shot but since I just had one of those I figured I'd try) :p
[02:50] <Pagan0ne> oh yeah, i better burn another copy of the live cd to help troubleshoot this system :^who wants to bet it will be dont burning before the other system is done booting?
[02:50] <glj12> hmm... since no one at the moment can hel me with my firefox problem, can anyone help me with playing videos or hearing anything audio?
[02:50] <glj12> help*
[02:51] <LeeJunFan> declan: can you go to gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu in a browser succesfully?
[02:51] <rocketman768> glj12: you tried aptitude?
[02:51] <glj12> what is that?
[02:52] <glj12> i might have
[02:52] <rocketman768> go to a console, type "sudo aptitude"
[02:52] <Pagan0ne> done burning, and still no kdm yet
[02:52] <glj12> ok
[02:52] <glj12> i went there
[02:52] <glj12> no installed packages
[02:52] <declan> LeeJunFan: yep. although before I reinstalled kubuntu, firefox didn't work, while konqueror did. Not sure why one could connect and one could not. Seems apt is on firefoxes side
[02:52] <rocketman768> glj12: ok, now type "/firefox"
[02:53] <glj12> where?
[02:53] <glj12> in patitude?
[02:53] <rocketman768> yes
[02:53] <rocketman768> when you press the "/" key, it should bring up a search box
[02:53] <glj12> aptitude*
[02:53] <glj12> it does a search
[02:53] <glj12> oh, ok
[02:53] <rocketman768> right
[02:53] <glj12> some things come up
[02:54] <rocketman768> so, now press "n" untill you come to mozilla-firefox
[02:54] <rocketman768> or firefox
[02:54] <rocketman768> i forget which
[02:54] <rocketman768> probably just firefox
[02:54] <rocketman768> then press the "+" key to tell it you want to get it
[02:55] <rocketman768> then press "g" (you may have to do it twice) to download and install
[02:55] <Pagan0ne> whats the best console IRC client included on the live-cd?
[02:55] <glj12> ok
[02:55] <glj12> wait, n?
[02:55] <glj12> it dings
[02:55] <glj12> or, does the bell thing
[02:55] <glj12> wow, what
[02:55] <glj12> mmm
[02:55] <glj12> let me list you what it says if thats alrght
[02:56] <rocketman768> glj12: the dinging means it didn't come up with a match
[02:56] <larson9999> new computer!  i'm stylin now.  finally got rid of the gremlins
[02:56] <glj12> acpi-support
[02:56] <glj12> acpid
[02:56] <DaSkreech> glj12: What's the issue?
[02:56] <glj12> anacron
[02:56] <glj12> apmd, ap, apt-utils, aptitude, at
[02:56] <glj12> sorry to bother you too
[02:56] <glj12> i just want firefox
[02:56] <glj12> :)
[02:56] <larson9999> i thought my old one was fast enough.  this one smokes it
[02:56] <LeeJunFan> declan: in your /etc/apt/apt.conf file does the AcquireProxy line say true or false?
[02:57] <rocketman768> why doesn't "sudo apt-get install firefox" work?
[02:57] <nikkiana> hey... what's the best ftp program?
[02:57] <glj12> it states something else
[02:57] <glj12> um..
[02:57] <glj12> it reccomends something else
[02:57] <glj12> its weird
[02:58] <rocketman768> "it"?
[02:58] <glj12> and now i cant get it to do it again. >.<
[02:58] <glj12> h/o
[02:58] <declan> LeeJunFan: says false
[02:58] <glj12> crud
[02:58] <glj12> how do i kill aptitude
[02:58] <LeeJunFan> declan: can you pastebin your results of running 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:58] <rocketman768> "q"
[02:59] <glj12> i did killall aptitude and tha worked
[02:59] <glj12> :)
[02:59] <glj12> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:59] <glj12> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:59] <glj12> is only available from another source
[02:59] <glj12> However the following packages replace it:
[02:59] <glj12>   libnss3
[02:59] <glj12> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[02:59] <declan> LeeJunFan: Sure
[02:59] <glj12> thats what it said when i did that
[02:59] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Hi again :)
[02:59] <nikkiana> hi DaSkreech
[02:59] <rocketman768> glj12: hmm
[02:59] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, i'm looking for recommendations for an FTP program.
[02:59] <glj12> see that too DaSkreech?
[03:00] <LeeJunFan> nikkiana: lftp, ncftp, konqueror
[03:01] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: kBear
[03:01] <DaSkreech> glj12: try sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[03:02] <rocketman768> glj12: i would suspect this is a problem in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[03:02] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: If you like GUI :)
[03:02] <rocketman768> check it and see if you have lines that look like "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe"
[03:02] <Jucato> err... Firefox is in main
[03:03] <Jucato> not in universe
[03:03] <rocketman768> jucato: just an example
[03:03] <Jucato> oh
[03:03] <glj12> mmm
[03:03] <glj12> blah
[03:03] <glj12> can you guys see me?
[03:03] <Jucato> :-D
[03:04] <glj12> BLAH!
[03:04] <glj12> stupid wifi
[03:04] <glj12> sorry, i missed a lot
[03:04] <glj12> what were you guys saying?
[03:04] <glj12> before my wifi dies again
[03:04] <rocketman768> gjl12: looking at /etc/apt/sources.list?
[03:04] <glj12> want me to go there?
[03:05] <LeeJunFan> glj12: get rid of the 2.4GHz phone.
[03:05] <rocketman768> glj12: see if you have a line that says "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted"
[03:05] <glj12> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[03:05] <glj12> #deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main
[03:05] <glj12> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[03:05] <glj12> #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main
[03:05] <glj12> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[03:05] <glj12> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[03:05] <LeeJunFan> !paste
[03:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:05] <rocketman768> glj12: ahhhh
[03:05] <rocketman768> there's yer problem
[03:06] <glj12> ?
[03:06] <rocketman768> glj12: uncomment those lines (take out the pound sign)
[03:06] <glj12> LeeJunFan: No 2.4ghz phone.
[03:06] <rocketman768> the ones that start with "deb"
[03:06] <glj12> oh, alright
[03:06] <glj12> kays
[03:06] <declan> LeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20611
[03:06] <glj12> wonder why it was commented
[03:06] <glj12> :(
[03:06] <LeeJunFan> those are all only security - there's no main, etc, in his list.
[03:07] <rocketman768> worth a shot
[03:07] <declan> LeeJunFan: that guy, glj12 seems to have a similar problem.
[03:07] <glj12> erm...
[03:07] <glj12> chown is my friend?
[03:07] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Where did you get married?
[03:08] <declan> LeeJunFan: mine failed to verify at installation too.
[03:08] <rocketman768> lol, might want to try "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:08] <glj12> :)
[03:08] <Jucato> err.. kdesu kate...
[03:08] <glj12> kays
[03:08] <Jucato> !kdesu
[03:08] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[03:09] <Pagan0ne> still loading......
[03:09] <rocketman768> muck up eh?
[03:09] <glj12> i uncommented all of those deb things at the end
[03:09] <glj12> nope, same schpeal
[03:09] <glj12> :(
[03:09] <rocketman768> oh well
[03:09] <glj12> update works though
[03:09] <glj12> :)
[03:09] <glj12> well, thats a start
[03:10] <glj12> right?
[03:10] <rocketman768> do you even have the line i pasted above?
[03:10] <glj12> what do you mean
[03:10] <glj12> what line, where>
[03:10] <glj12> ?
[03:11] <LeeJunFan> declan: see the <IP_ADDRESS> after the repos hostname? that's the IP apt thinks the repository is at - which obviously is wrong.
[03:11] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, I got married at Pats Peak in Henniker, NH
[03:11] <rocketman768> glj12: "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted"
[03:11] <declan> LeeJunFan: Cool. so why does it think that?
[03:12] <declan> LeeJunFan: Do I have an idiot APT?
[03:12] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: :-) sounds like somewhere I used to live
[03:12] <LeeJunFan> declan: I'm not sure - I've heard of this before but I don't know the proper solution.
[03:12] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, i'm attempting to set up gallery at the moment so i can upload pictures of the wedding :)
[03:12] <glj12> oh, no
[03:12] <glj12> wait...
[03:12] <glj12> what the hell, worthless ctrl f
[03:12] <glj12> it couldnt find it before. :P
[03:12] <glj12> yeah, i see it now
[03:12] <glj12> but its commented, so it shouldnt work, right?
[03:13] <rocketman768> right, uncomment it
[03:13] <glj12> oh, ok
[03:13] <LeeJunFan> declan: for now - edit /etc/hosts, add the following line '<IP_ADDRESS> gb.archive.ubuntu.com'
[03:13] <declan> LeeJunFan: Oh. Not good. Seemed to happen overnight. Could it be to do with my home network?
[03:13] <LeeJunFan> declan: you could try restarting your router.
[03:13] <larson9999> ok, well i don't have opengl yet on this ati card
[03:13] <glj12> broken packages now
[03:14] <declan> LeeJunFan: tried that. But its worth trying again
[03:14] <glj12>  firefox: Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0) but it is not installable
[03:14] <glj12>            Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0) but it is not installable
[03:14] <glj12>            Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.12.2) but it is not installable
[03:15] <Pagan0ne> heh, i just got done watching vanishing point :^
[03:15] <rocketman768> glj12: hm, did you try an upgrade from a previous version of kubuntu?
[03:16] <LeeJunFan> declan: how about pastebin your /etc/resolv.conf file as well - so I can see what DNS servers your system is using.
[03:16] <declan> LeeJunFan: should it look like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20613
[03:17] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: cool send me a link :)
[03:17] <glj12> i am with the latest version atm
[03:17] <glj12> only one i've used
[03:17] <glj12> wow
[03:17] <glj12> my wifi is very crappy
[03:17] <glj12> rocketman768: ?
[03:17] <glj12> mmmm
[03:17] <LeeJunFan> declan: yeah, come to think of it you'll need one for <IP_ADDRESS> security.ubuntu.com - as well.
[03:17] <declan> LeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20614
[03:18] <glj12> did i miss anything you said rocketman768?
[03:18] <Scak> mmm, anyone know a codecs package that contains mpeg layer 2/3 audio for kaffeine?
[03:18] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, i will.... as soon as i figure out how to upload photos to a Gallery2 gallery :P
[03:18] <rocketman768> glj12: you come in and go out and like 5 of your posts appear at once
[03:18] <rOOb> !wireless
[03:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:19] <LeeJunFan> declan: try running 'dig' in a console to see if you have it.
[03:19] <glj12> rocketman768: ew, i'm sorry, why s my wifi so shitty?
[03:19] <glj12> is*
[03:19] <glj12> i have a negear 108mbps router
[03:19] <LeeJunFan> declan: using dig we can see which of those 2 dns servers is giving bogus info.
[03:19] <glj12> the thing is that i am connected to utcht constantly, maybe its this server
[03:19] <pp> algun espaol
[03:19] <rocketman768> pp: yo si
[03:20] <declan> LeeJunFan:
[03:20] <declan> ; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>>
[03:20] <declan> ;; global options:  printcmd
[03:20] <declan> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[03:20] <pp> de donde eres
[03:20] <glj12> rocketman768: anyway, ideas?
[03:20] <rocketman768> pp: estados unidos pero soy medio chileno
[03:21] <LeeJunFan> declan: cool, try this 'dig @<IP_ADDRESS> gb.archive.ubuntu.com' then try with the other DNS server <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:21] <pp> yo de espaa
[03:21] <rocketman768> glj12: maybe you can do some sort of upgrade to fix the broken packages
[03:21] <glj12> how can i do that, in what way do you mean
[03:22] <pp> hablais del kubuntu
[03:22] <LeeJunFan> declan: one of them will probably give you a line under ANSWER SECTION with A <IP_ADDRESS> - that's the bad DNS server.
[03:22] <rocketman768> pp: tienes algun problema?
[03:23] <pp> no, me ha costado bastante configurarme la distro , pero para mi guto la tengo perfecta
[03:23] <glj12> rocketman768: i got adept to show things, and now they are always broken installs
[03:23] <glj12> broken files and what not
[03:24] <rocketman768> glj12: there is a "resolver" in aptitude if that helps
[03:24] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Hmm I played with that once
[03:24] <declan> LeeJunFan: both in pastebin
[03:25] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, it's.... interesting.
[03:25] <rocketman768> pp: si...siempre es dificil configurar linux. Pues, para mi lo es. Ahora tengo un problema con el bluetooth, pero el Kubuntu es mas o menos weno
[03:25] <glj12> ok rocketman768
[03:26] <glj12> what about audio/video problems
[03:26] <glj12> any good with that?
[03:26] <rocketman768> gjl12: such as?
[03:27] <glj12> erm, i get a black screen fr video
[03:27] <glj12> and i get no sound
[03:27] <glj12> =/
[03:27] <rocketman768> glj12: using what program?
[03:28] <LeeJunFan> declan: well they both report the correct address, but the <IP_ADDRESS> seems to leave out some stuff.
[03:28] <pp> siento no poder ayudarte, ne tengo bluetooth, y no se configurarlo, si es que tu problema es de configuracion
[03:28] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, photo album applications and me just don't seem to mesh, it seems....
[03:28] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: It's apache based?
[03:28] <declan> LeeJunFan: Just tried apt again and got this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20617
[03:29] <LeeJunFan> declan: that means it's working but because of the /etc/hosts entry which is a kludge, unfortunately it may be the only thing we have to make it work.
[03:30] <LeeJunFan> declan: a working kludge is better than no kludge I guess. :p
[03:30] <rocketman768> glj12: still there?
[03:31] <declan> LeeJunFan: does that mean we leave it as a mystery? Is it a common problem? Has it happened recently as a result of an update or a kernal change?
[03:31] <rocketman768> pp: ah, entonces, como esta espana? que hay de contar?
[03:31] <glj12> back
[03:31] <glj12> sorry
[03:32] <pp> mucho calor
[03:32] <LeeJunFan> declan: it's one of those dns servers not playing nice, but why? who knows...
[03:32] <glj12> it was that coffee bean looking program, kaffiene or something?
[03:32] <declan> LeeJunFan: thank-you very very much. I really appreciate your time. If you believe in God, may he bless you and if not, may fate treat you well.
[03:32] <larson9999> if i installed the fglrx drivers properly for this ati radeon express 200 embedded card, shoul opengl stuff work fast?  or does ati suck that much?
[03:32] <scotty> Hello. I'm a brand new Kubuntu user (installing on my laptop as we speak, actually), as my Windows XP was corrupted and I decided instead of reinstalling and suffering through the pains of microsoft again, I'd just use Linux. I have a small question. Kubuntu will be running on a cheap dell, and it seems the wireless card isn't working. I'd assume this is because the drivers for it were Windows based. I still have the CD with the wireless card's dri
[03:32] <scotty> vers on it, but I think they are for Windows. How would I go about getting my wireless card to be recognized?
[03:32] <rocketman768> gjl12: i've never gotten kaffeine to work properly. You might check out mplayer and see if that works for you
[03:33] <LeeJunFan> declan: just remember that if sometime in the future you can't reach the repositories it could be related to the /etc/hosts changes we made. If the IP address for the gb repos changes your machine will be looking in the wrong place for them.
[03:33] <glj12> oh, ok rocketman768
[03:33] <rocketman768> pp: lo mismo aca...como 33C normalmente
[03:33] <farous> larson9999: fglrx is not for that card
[03:33] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: What have you done so far?
[03:33] <glj12> and what might you reccomend for sound?
[03:33] <pp> mas o menos como aqui
[03:33] <declan> LeeJunFan: so I'll need to go to etc/hosts and change the ip address that relates to the repo?
[03:33] <larson9999> farous: oops! what is?
[03:33] <LeeJunFan> larson9999: should be fast, run fglrxinfo and see if it says the vendor is ATI.
[03:34] <LeeJunFan> declan: yes, if it ever changes.
[03:34] <archangel__> which is the BEST p2p software for linux?
[03:34] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, i installed it..... and now i don't know what to do next....
[03:34] <declan> LeeJunFan: or if I want to add another repo like the PLF?
[03:34] <rocketman768> pp: en que parte vives?
[03:34] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: How did you install it?
[03:34] <pp> alicante
[03:34] <larson9999> LeeJunFan: OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:34] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, I cheated and used Fantastico because the host I'm on doesn't have shell access (but I don't pay for it so beggers can't be choosey)
[03:35] <pp> lo conoces
[03:35] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[03:35] <LeeJunFan> declan: depends on if it can resolve it w/o hacking up hosts, problem is that you may find other sites you can't get to w/o figuring out the root of the problem.
[03:35] <DFM> scotty, you need to check and see if it is listed as a supported card.
[03:35] <DaSkreech> fantasico?
[03:35] <steve___> can anyone jog my memory a little...  I lost my hdd and installed kubuntu on my dell 700m and now fn+esc doesn't put it to stand by...  i know i had to wrestle with it 8 months ago to get it to work and currently my brain is drawing a blank
[03:35] <DFM> if not you may be able to get it to work with ndiswrapper
[03:35] <scotty> DFM, where do I go to check that, and what happens if it isn't a supported card
[03:35] <LeeJunFan> you could manually remove one of the nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf and see if it fixes the problem w/o the lines in hosts.
[03:35] <LeeJunFan> declan: ^^
[03:36] <farous> larson9999: oh is it xpress 200
[03:36] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, the trouble is i'm kinda confused as to what i'm supposed to do if i want to upload using FTP.... i've always just used the Gallery Remote when I've used it in the past, I'm not a big fan of that method though.... you can upload to Gallery using F-Spot but F-Spot seems to be VERY prone to crashing.
[03:36] <declan> LeeJunFan:  thanks again. I'm off to download a million updates. Take care!
[03:36] <LeeJunFan> declan: in either hosts or resolv.conf you can simply comment out lines by putting # in front of them.
[03:36] <DFM> I spent a week trying to get 3 different cards working and just gave up and bought one that was linux supported
[03:36] <LeeJunFan> declan: no prob.
[03:36] <declan> LeeJunFan: I'll try that
[03:36] <rocketman768> pp: m, no...no creo. Es una region muy populada?
[03:36] <DFM> let me see if i can find you a link
[03:36] <larson9999> farous: yeah.
[03:36] <farous> larson9999: sorry i take it back i miss read it
[03:36] <DFM> or I can tell you what card i bought that worked out of the box
[03:37] <pp> esta en el este del pais
[03:37] <farous> larson9999: do you have the kernel package installed
[03:37] <pp> a nivel de turismo es bastante conocida
[03:37] <larson9999> farous: so it should be fast.  for instance, chromium should play at normal speed.  i followed this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713
[03:37] <scotty> DFM, I'd prefer not to have to spend money
[03:37] <farous> larson9999: integrated cards are not that fast
[03:37] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Well I'd just guess it would make a folder called Gallery that you can upload stuff to
[03:37] <farous> larson9999: test if it is running properly
[03:38] <scotty> So I may take the ndiswrap route if it isn't supported.
[03:38] <farous> fglrxinfo
[03:38] <scotty> *ndiswrapper
[03:38] <larson9999> farous: i know that but i figure it should be fast enough for chromium.  my old nvidia 16mb card runs it pretty fast
[03:38] <rocketman768> pp: m, todavia no he viajado a europa
[03:38] <rocketman768> pp: tu viajas mucho?
[03:38] <farous> larson9999: do you know if it is config properly is 3-d accel supported
[03:39] <DaSkreech> rocketman768: Spanish?
[03:39] <rocketman768> DaSkreech: yeah
[03:39] <DFM> give me a minute
[03:39] <DaSkreech> !es
[03:39] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:39] <larson9999> farous: i don't know.  i'm totally new to ati.  always used nvidia.  here is what flglxinfo says: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713
[03:39] <DFM> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[03:40] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, you'd think that.... but it doesn't seem to work that way.... it wants me to set up some sort of tmp folder to upload to and i'm confused because the directions are a little ambiguous.
[03:40] <pp> por lo poquito que entiendo el ingles, veo que la gente expone aqui sus problemas con la distro y no quiero molestar.
[03:40] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Where are the directions?
[03:40] <pp> bye
[03:40] <DFM> you can find the card I have for about $37
[03:40] <declan> LeeJunFan:Just for your notes, that didn't work. Looks like the workaround is the best I can do at the mo. Thanks though. Its still a big help!
[03:40] <scotty> okay, thanks DFM
[03:40] <farous> larson9999: in a terminal type fglrxinfo. if it returned it is using ati or fglrx driver it is ok. also glxinfo |grep render. if it said direct rendering=yes you are in the clear
[03:40] <DFM> np
[03:41] <rocketman768> pp: no te tienes que ir
[03:41] <DFM> for your info i have only been runinng kubuntu for 2 weeks
[03:41] <DFM> and i was able to get wi-fi up so it isn't a real big deal
[03:42] <larson9999> farous: it doesn't say anything about a driver. renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:42] <silentdawn> my kubuntu gives me sound in my messengers but not my media playersm or internet....wtf is up with that?
[03:42] <farous> larson9999: you do not have 3-D accel yet
[03:42] <LeeJunFan> declan: you commented (#) out the lines we put in /etc/hosts and one of the nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf? if so try the other nameserver and try again? One of them has got to be bad.
[03:42] <larson9999> !ati
[03:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:42] <farous> larson9999: did you install the fglrx driver from the repos
[03:42] <rocketman768> anybody know about bluetooth?
[03:43] <DFM> rocketman, what do you want to know?
[03:43] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, i sent you a PM seeing as we've deviated greatly from Kubuntu ;)
[03:43] <larson9999> farous: yeah.  i followed instructions from a site.  i'm looking at the instructions recommended here now
[03:43] <silentdawn> i need soiund in my media players!!!help!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:43] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Umm
[03:43] <DaSkreech> Where? :-)
[03:43] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: You have some kinda instant messenger?
[03:44] <farous> larson9999: ok there is another package you need. sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[03:44] <nikkiana> DaSkreech, Like as in the PMs on IRC?
[03:44] <rocketman768> silentdawn: what media player?
[03:44] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Like i didn't see it :) are you registered?
[03:44] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: WHat are you trying to play?
[03:44] <silentdawn> amarok
[03:45] <nikkiana> whoops!
[03:45] <silentdawn> shoutcast stream
[03:45] <nikkiana> i forgot to put my password in. D'oh!
[03:45] <silentdawn> i got sound in my messengers but a damn thing else
[03:45] <Jucato> I'm having problems creating the Application Index for KHelpCenter. it always fails. anyone else experiencing this?
[03:46] <declan> LeeJunFan: I did that. I ran apt twice each time with a different nameserver commented out (and the hosts we added also commented out) each time the connection timed out trying to go to <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:46] <LeeJunFan> declan: Do you have a dlink router?
[03:46] <Agios> silentdawn: kmix, raise all the vars, click all the green buttons
[03:46] <rocketman768> silentdawn: it's most likely something easy to fix, but xmms always works for me so you might try "sudo apt-get install xmms"
[03:46] <Agios> uh, not vars, bars
[03:46] <larson9999> farous: i installed that already
[03:47] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: Did you install MP3 support?
[03:47] <declan> LeeJunFan: I think its a safecom. I have tried using direct connection to the modem-router but same result.
[03:47] <silentdawn> i installed anything kubuntu told me to...and some extra but nothing in the driver sense
[03:48] <farous> larson9999: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:48] <farous> will tell you what is wrong
[03:48] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: Ok more explicitly did you install libxine-extracodecs?
[03:48] <silentdawn> nope
[03:48] <LeeJunFan> declan: Everything I can google tells me that it's your router, although most complaints seem to be d-link, the solution is always to upgrade firmware.
[03:49] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: Install that :)
[03:49] <silentdawn> whaere woulod i come by"that"?
[03:49] <Agios> Jucato: I had a problem with khelpcenter after installation but the problem went away after a reboot.
[03:49] <jontec> Hola. I just installed mySQL. ^_^ So how do I use it?
[03:50] <Agios> jontec: you know SQL?
[03:50] <jontec> nope
[03:50] <jontec> I'm just going to the mySQL site to get documentation
[03:50] <Agios> perhaps a SQL tutorial would be a good place to start.
[03:50] <DaSkreech> !multiverse . silentdawn
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multiverse . silentdawn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <DaSkreech> !multiverse > silentdawn
[03:52] <declan> LeeJunFan: I have a safecom modem/router connected to a safecom 4 port router. Since the problem seems to be there when I use only the modem/router, I'll try upgrading its firmware. Cheers!
[03:52] <silentdawn> i just want sumthin quick to install to fix my chick man
[03:52] <LeeJunFan> declan: good luck.
[03:53] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: Open adept
[03:53] <silentdawn> if i had it......
[03:53] <silentdawn> oopos thinkin of wrong program lol
[03:54] <larson9999> farous: there is a repo i need to install.  security or something i think but i'm not sure.  i'm also new to unbunt but i had to do that a couple weeks ago with my nvidia card.
[03:54] <scotty> Has anyone here ever used ndiswrapper for a Dell 1350 wireless card?
[03:54] <thompa> too many web sites using flash 8 or something
[03:54] <Agios> artsplay some.wav :)
[03:54] <farous> !info fglrx
[03:54] <ubotu> Package fglrx does not exist in dapper
[03:55] <thompa> !flash
[03:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:55] <jontec> Okay, question. I'm at documentation for mySQL. the mysql-server-5.0 is version 5.0, correct?
[03:55] <farous> !info xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:55] <ubotu> xorg-driver-fglrx: Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 7.0.0-8.25.18+<IP_ADDRESS>-3 (dapper), package size 10309 kB, installed size 29468 kB
[03:56] <farous> larson9999: the driver is in restricted repos. do not know what security have to do with it
[03:57] <thompa> so flash 8 only works with windows, why are so many sites using it then
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> Because most people are using WIndows.
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> Flash 8 also works with a mac. Just not Linux. ;)
[03:57] <Agios> cause they don't care if the 3% liunx world can see their site or not
[03:58] <DaSkreech> And Amiga!
[03:58] <thompa> but so many of these sites seem independant or something, whats up with their IT
[03:58] <thompa> well myspace is total garbage anyway
[03:58] <Agios> thompa: they have a "Contact Us", ask them :)
[03:58] <rocketman768> real html is considered obsolete which is a shame
[03:59] <thompa> i will
[03:59] <larson9999> farous: i forgot where i found that but the deal for the nvidia driver was that the kernel was upgraded and in the regular repos but the nvidia driver upgrade wasn't in the regular repos but in security(or something like that).  or vice versa.
[03:59] <thompa> good idea, esp. if its an indy media type site, they should support linux
[03:59] <farous> larson9999: ok good luck never heared of it myself
[04:00] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: You ok?
[04:00] <AtKaaZ> hi, does anyone know how to setup ssl for apache2 under kubuntu 6.06 ?
[04:01] <larson9999> farous: my kernel is 2.6.15-23-386.  i'm guessing that since fglxr is <IP_ADDRESS>-3 it's not loading and giving the error in the xorg log
[04:01] <silentdawn> wwwwwwwwwwwwwoooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooo thats right thats techno commin from my linuk OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH
[04:01] <silentdawn> linux*lol
[04:01] <farous> larson9999: yah that might cause a prob
[04:02] <silentdawn> the xmms made a difference
[04:02] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: Nice AOL keyboard
[04:02] <thompa> so what is the alternative to site development instead of flash, ive never used it.
[04:02] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: ok as long as you are happy "_
[04:02] <larson9999> farous: same exact prob with nivida card a while back.  somewhere i found a site that said what repo to add but now i have a new system and forgot:)   and i'm assuming it's the same thing here
[04:02] <DaSkreech> Gnash
[04:02] <silentdawn> wtf does that mean?
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> Gnu Flash (or something like that)
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> !gnash
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: I was going to get mp3 working in Amarok for you but if xmms makes you happy Go ahead :)
[04:03] <thompa> ok thanks
[04:03] <DaSkreech> !info gnash
[04:03] <ubotu> Package gnash does not exist in dapper
[04:03] <farous> larson9999: did you try installing it from the ati provided installer. the howto tell you how to generate deb files from that
[04:03] <silentdawn> lol w/e plays my techno makes me happy
[04:04] <DaSkreech> silentdawn: Ok Now that it jamming want some help in getting the rest of your players to play it?
[04:04] <DaSkreech> Or not
[04:05] <thompa> i found something called freescale
[04:05] <thompa> nevermind thats flash ram
[04:05] <archangel__> has anyone here used 3d desktop?
[04:06] <archangel__> it looks cool as crap
[04:06] <thompa> is 3d desktop in repos?
[04:06] <DaSkreech> archangel__: That depends on how much you like crap I take it
[04:06] <archangel__> lol
[04:06] <archangel__> I enjoy letting it go
[04:06] <thompa> oh, is that the one where you see the little box,
[04:06] <DaSkreech> thompa: It's lilke the first thing in it :)
[04:07] <archangel__> thompa: not sure
[04:07] <thompa> i was running compiz for a while, but its a mess
[04:07] <thompa> at least it did something strange to xubuntu
[04:07] <ErikTheRed> is security.ubuntu.com down right now?
[04:08] <larson9999> farous no.  but i think i found the site i saw before.  i'll see of the same repos work for this.  if not i'll got that route.
[04:09] <farous> :)
[04:09] <posthuman> hey does anyone know of a program that can convert FLV to AVI or MPG?
[04:09] <silentdawn> what is a good dvd player for kubuntu?
[04:09] <ErikTheRed> vlc plays dvds and just about any other media format well
[04:10] <silentdawn> anything i can just snag from adept?
[04:10] <archangel__> what does kubuntu have to download mp3's?
[04:10] <ErikTheRed> vlc is in adept
[04:10] <silentdawn> tight
[04:11] <ErikTheRed> archangel: what do you mean by "download mp3's"
[04:11] <actinic> loose
[04:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> archangel__: wget?
[04:12] <archangel__> hmmm, dont rememeber seeing that
[04:12] <Ertain> Does anyone know an alternative to the Mac OS X Fontbook?
[04:12] <posthuman> archangel: use museek
[04:12] <posthuman> very good program
[04:12] <posthuman> but you have to compile it
[04:14] <posthuman> http://www.museek-plus.org/
[04:15] <groovis> question: how the hell do I change the kubuntu animated icon in kde?
[04:16] <ErikTheRed> which icon?
[04:16] <groovis> the one when Konq is already open - you click it and it gives you a new window
[04:17] <groovis> I can't seem to do it from the toolbar properites, but other icons will change easily
[04:17] <groovis> from the same location...
[04:17] <ErikTheRed> i seem to recall seeing that there is a way to do it, just can't remember right now...
[04:18] <Ertain> Hey, I never thought of changing that.  Interesting. :-S
[04:18] <groovis> well, the kubuntu icon they picked is ugly...
[04:19] <groovis> besides, it doesn't match the rest of my icons...
[04:19] <ErikTheRed> i think i found it
[04:19] <groovis> shoot
[04:19] <ErikTheRed> so within konqueror go to settings->configure toolbars
[04:19] <groovis> yeah...I've already changed it from there
[04:20] <ErikTheRed> oh
[04:20] <ErikTheRed> does it not work when you do that
[04:20] <groovis> it shows in there that it's changed, but the icon hasn't changed.
[04:20] <groovis> nope.
[04:20] <ErikTheRed> hmm
[04:20] <groovis> and it's the only one that doesn't change
[04:20] <groovis> I can change all the others that way...just not this one.
[04:20] <silentdawn> anything i can snag from adept that will allow me to download media?
[04:21] <ErikTheRed> groovis: that is rather strange
[04:21] <groovis> ain't it?
[04:21] <ErikTheRed> silentdawn: what exactly do you mean
[04:21] <silentdawn> video,music,files shite like that
[04:21] <groovis> silentdawn: go to a music store. Pay.
[04:21] <ErikTheRed> yeah really
[04:22] <silentdawn> not all can afford
[04:22] <ErikTheRed> that's a terrible excuse
[04:22] <groovis> apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[04:22] <ErikTheRed> the loser left...
[04:22] <groovis> lol
[04:22] <ErikTheRed> the support channel is hardly the place to ask for P2P software
[04:22] <groovis> no kidding
[04:22] <groovis> so..I'm stumped.
[04:23] <groovis> I can't even figure out what the icon is called
[04:23] <DaSkreech> Woot!! I got songbird working
[04:23] <DaSkreech> Have to install gnome stuff though
[04:24] <pterandon> hi
[04:24] <pterandon> security.ubuntu.com is down?  Well, it's hanging up for me on first updates just after install.  :(
[04:25] <ErikTheRed> pterandon: yeah i'm running into the same problem
[04:25] <pterandon> I do apt-get update, and this one times out:   <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:25] <ErikTheRed> it won't even return pings
[04:25] <pterandon> okay.  I am so glad you're having the problem, Erik.
[04:25] <pterandon> :) It means I'm neither insane nor an idiot!
[04:26] <ErikTheRed> that's always good
[04:26] <groovis> ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:26] <groovis> PING <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[04:26] <groovis> 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=101 ms
[04:26] <groovis> 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 time=100 ms
[04:26] <pterandon> oh wait it went
[04:26] <groovis> works fine for me...
[04:26] <pterandon> does this second now for me.
[04:26] <groovis> odd.
[04:26] <ErikTheRed> i'll try it again now
[04:26] <groovis> router fart.
[04:26] <groovis> or burp.
[04:26] <pterandon> Is there an update-menus command?
[04:26] <ErikTheRed> looks like it's working
[04:27] <posthuman> Does anyone know of a program that can convert FLV files to AVI or MPG?
[04:28] <ErikTheRed> what program makes an FLV file?
[04:28] <groovis> ErikTheRed: can you actually change the icon ? or is it just me?
[04:28] <ErikTheRed> i can't change it either
[04:28] <groovis> ah ha.
[04:28] <groovis> then it isn't me.
[04:28] <Reddler> flash video
[04:28] <groovis> http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=FLV
[04:29] <groovis> filext.com answers all those questions...
[04:29] <DaSkreech> The: Hi
[04:29] <pterandon> I'm having a problem installing flash player.
[04:29] <TheDom> hello
[04:29] <pterandon> it says command not found.
[04:29] <ErikTheRed> posthuman: sorry no idea what program to use
[04:30] <TheDom> i wanted thedom but it gave me the there for a sec lol
[04:30] <posthuman> ah ok
[04:30] <posthuman> thanks though
[04:30] <pterandon> I found (but lost) on the web a suffix to put in front: /bin/sh??
[04:30] <ErikTheRed> what kind of file is the installer
[04:31] <pterandon> flash_player-installer from Adobe
[04:32] <pterandon> okay I solved it-- it require /bin/sh flashplayer-installer
[04:32] <ErikTheRed> you know you don't have to type /bin/sh
[04:33] <ErikTheRed> you can just go: sh flashplayer-installer
[04:33] <The> is it ppossible to start ur own chat channel?
[04:33] <ErikTheRed> or ./flashplayer-installer
[04:33] <DaSkreech> The: Yes
[04:33] <pterandon> k cool thx.     Adobe's incorrect instructs say    flashplayer-installer   , per se
[04:33] <otaku-san> The: type /query
[04:33] <otaku-san> then a space and the person you want to chat to
[04:34] <The> ...i mean on a much lager scale
[04:34] <The> something like this room
[04:34] <otaku-san> DaSkreech probably knows...I forget
[04:35] <The> lol
[04:35] <otaku-san> *shakes head sadly
[04:35] <DaSkreech> #noonesroom
[04:35] <DaSkreech> The: join that
[04:35] <The> how
[04:36] <DaSkreech> the: are you in konversation?
[04:36] <The> indeed
[04:36] <DaSkreech> Just click on it
[04:36] <The> woohoo done
[04:37] <Kiongku> hi. I just did the tut for kernel upgrade. But now kubuntu boots with a black screen just before login. Can someone help me?
[04:37] <DaSkreech> The: have fun
[04:37] <The> lol oh look myself have not chated with him in awhile
[04:38] <pterandon> Hello, what is recommended package manager:  is adept best, or will I run into trouble w/ synaptic?
[04:38] <DaSkreech> pterandon: Which ever floats your packages
[04:39] <pterandon> cool
[04:39] <Kiongku> hi. I just did the tut for kernel upgrade. But now kubuntu boots with a black screen just before login. Can someone help me?
[04:41] <otaku-san> Kiongku: no need to post twice...we all saw it's just we don't know how to fix your problem...like I have no clue what could be the prob.  Tho' try to post later. Or go to #linux
[04:42] <nihil> Hello people.
[04:42] <nihil> Hi from a friend
[04:42] <nihil> From Brazil
[04:43] <rocketman768> nihil: as in nihilism?
[04:44] <Kiongku> otaku-san sorry could have told me =) ty
[04:44] <DaSkreech> nihil: Hello
[04:44] <Kiongku> its not really a prob.. just annoying.
[04:45] <nihil> Yes
[04:45] <otaku-san> Kiongku: ok, sorry we couldn't help...try later and you might catch someone who knows his stuff or google your prob
[04:45] <nihil> Yes
[04:46] <rocketman768> you a nihilist?
[04:46] <Kiongku> ok. well how to upgrade the kde? by package manager?
[04:46] <nihil> I try
[04:46] <rocketman768> nihil: haha, what do you mean 'you try'?
[04:47] <nihil> I try to be a nihilist
[04:47] <nihil> haha
[04:47] <otaku-san> Kiongku: yes you can use apt-get probably to upgrade...DaSkreech back me up on this
[04:48] <DaSkreech> Ok
[04:48] <Kiongku> ty
[04:48] <rocketman768> nihil: you like the movie "I heart hucklebees"?
[04:48] <nihil> I never see it
[04:48] <rocketman768> *huckabees
[04:48] <nihil> sorry for my bad English
[04:48] <rocketman768> you should watch it
[04:49] <rocketman768> it's a comedy about nihilism and other things
[04:49] <Kiongku> did anyone try the kernel <IP_ADDRESS> on kubuntu?
[04:49] <nihil> cool
[04:50] <rocketman768> Kiongku: i got <IP_ADDRESS> going
[04:51] <Kiongku> otaku-san should i keep the original kubuntu kernel?.. i just upgraded
[04:51] <nihil> Sorry, but I have to go away
[04:51] <DaSkreech> nihil: Bye
[04:51] <nihil> By my friends
[04:51] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: What? I backed you up
[04:51] <nihil> A friend from Brazil
[04:52] <rocketman768> nihil: bye brazilian friend
[04:52] <nihil> Bye
[04:52] <nihil> Hasta la vista bay
[04:52] <nihil> And I'll be back
[04:52] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: true...true...
[04:53] <otaku-san> Kiongku: ok so you went to apt-get and upgraded?
[04:54] <Kiongku> otaku-san: for the kde yes but the kernel is a custom built i made myself.  Oh most defiantly!!!! RULE number one on hacking.  Never not back up
[04:55] <otaku-san> Kiongku: Backup=Good
[04:55] <Kiongku> ah lol xD thx for the energetic response
[04:56] <Kiongku> btw.. i started kubuntu just yesterday..
[04:56] <Kiongku> XDDD
[04:56] <DaSkreech> Kiongku: Welcome
[04:57] <Kiongku> I'm glad.. in reallity i started 1 week ago.. but crazy eagle-usb problem solution found at lastr yesterday
[04:58] <otaku-san> Kiongku: me/ joins DaSkreech in welcoming you
[04:58] <Kiongku> k. one question... u know the screen just before login that spews out all sort of devices loading etc?
[04:58] <otaku-san> ok that did not work but welcome!
[04:58] <DaSkreech> heehee
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Broke the new toy?
[04:58] <Kiongku> what can cause it to stop showing up?
[04:59] <Kiongku> a bit. Onyl that part for now :p
[04:59] <Kiongku> *Only
[04:59] <Kiongku> i heard someone saying to remove splash in grub ._o
[05:01] <lmosher> how do I tell what sound device I'm suing? is it /dev/dsp?
[05:01] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: You wish man!
[05:02] <Kiongku> lol
[05:02] <Kiongku> 7 am..
[05:02] <Kiongku> been on the new kernel since 5 am XD
[05:03] <Kiongku> i found something on the forum about my problem but no solution ._.
[05:05] <otaku-san> Imosher: what kind of sound device?
[05:06] <DaSkreech> ##former-mspenguins
[05:07] <lmosher> otaku-san, my builtin sound card...
[05:08] <lmosher> Any ideas?
[05:09] <Kiongku> lmosher: why u want to fiddle with the sound device? no sound?
[05:09] <otaku-san> Imosher: hehe sound cards are my weakness....anything about them crashes me...ask here #linux
[05:09] <lmosher> Kiongku, I get sound in all apps except this one, which is asking me where my sound device is :)
[05:11] <Kiongku> lmosher: ah lol k. I not yet had this problem
[05:13] <reddwolf> hello
[05:14] <reddwolf> does any one now how to open a bin file
[05:14] <sergiusens> reddwolf: ./mybinfile.bin
[05:14] <reddwolf> thaks
[05:14] <reddwolf> *thanks
[05:16] <reddwolf> when i tryed that i got this message
[05:16] <reddwolf> An error occurred while loading http://./mybinfile.bin:
[05:16] <reddwolf> Unknown host .
[05:17] <sergiusens> reddwolf: what is your bin file? a vcd image or an executable?
[05:17] <DaSkreech> actinic: Where do we sign up?
[05:17] <reddwolf> its for the realplayer
[05:18] <mighty-d> hi, can anyone tell me how can i find out what version of ntfs-3g i'm using?
[05:18] <Hawkwind> mighty-d: dpkg -l ntfs-3g
[05:18] <mighty-d> thank you Hawkwind
[05:19] <sergiusens> right button on your file in the filemanager (konqueror) and select permissions -> and check 'is executable'
[05:20] <reddwolf> got it\
[05:20] <reddwolf> it says the same thing
[05:21] <sergiusens> reddwolf: did you click on it or write down what i told you to in the location bar?
[05:22] <actinic> DaSkreech, just follow the thread: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7868.0
[05:22] <reddwolf> but it the location bar
[05:22] <actinic> oh, and welcome aboard!  :)
[05:22] <DaSkreech> actinic: WHy don't we just combine the *buntus? ;-0
[05:22] <reddwolf> nothing happens when i click on it
[05:23] <sergiusens> open konsole
[05:23] <actinic> DaSkreech, because I believe ubuntu isn't worthy and kubuntu is better
[05:23] <actinic> :)
[05:23] <Jucato>  @_@
[05:23] <reddwolf> ok
[05:24] <Jucato> Kubuntu needs a lot of loving, but from the other end (the developers...)
[05:24] <rOOb> !vmware
[05:24] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[05:24] <actinic> i think we'll turn some heads
[05:24] <sergiusens> reddwolf: if the file is in your home directory then type in ./[followed the bin file name]
[05:25] <sergiusens> reddwolf: eg. if the file is named realplay.bin type in ./realplay.bin
[05:25] <actinic> Jucato, are u a mod over at the forums?
[05:25] <Jucato> actinic: nope. :-D
[05:26] <actinic> ah man
[05:26] <Jucato> why?
[05:26] <actinic> i want to get the folding thread stickied
[05:26] <sergiusens> reddwolf: that's it for me, it's 00.26 and i had a busy day today
[05:26] <actinic> or in it's own forum
[05:26] <Jucato> oh...
[05:26] <charles1952> Newbie to linux here....I was in the middle of doing a system update using adept...it downloaded all the packages (about 124 of 'em)...but encountered an error during installation. Now when I try to run adept it says there is another instance of adept or apt-get running, and it won't let me run the program. I killed the auto-updater process running in the task-bar...what else do I need to do? Help please???!!!
[05:27] <reddwolf> ok
[05:27] <Jucato> too bad PMs are disabled in the forums right now
[05:27] <reddwolf> it said no such file excist
[05:27] <actinic> didn't know that
[05:27] <actinic> shucks
[05:27] <Jucato> non of the mods are online, anyway
[05:27] <DaSkreech> charles1952: from the command line run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:28] <DaSkreech> a FOLDING forum?
[05:28] <actinic> ever?
[05:28] <charles1952> okay...Ill try it.
[05:28] <Jucato> no, just right now
[05:28] <actinic> DaSkreech, yes.  You gotta see some other team's forums.
[05:28] <Jucato> actinic: you can check who's online in the side panels
[05:29] <Jucato> err... I don't get this Folding @ Home thing....
[05:29] <actinic> global supercomputing effort for medical research
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Jucato: It;s like Orogami but @ home!!!
[05:29] <actinic> you join teams and get points
[05:29] <actinic> or seti, without the aliens :)
[05:29] <charles1952> Thanks...it seemed to work just fine. What did I do?
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Which You turn in For free Kool Aid :)
[05:30] <DaSkreech> charles1952: continued the installation
[05:30] <actinic> or free beer!
[05:30] <Jucato> lol
[05:30] <DaSkreech> charles1952: You should be good now :0
[05:30] <JRH3K5> !quotas
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quotas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <JRH3K5> I hate you, ubotu
[05:30] <charles1952> Here's a cold one for the help...thanks a bunch!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:30] <JRH3K5> You're useless.
[05:30] <actinic> check out the top teams: http://fahstats.com/
[05:31] <JRH3K5> Anyone here know where I can read about disk quotas?
[05:31] <DaSkreech> charles1952: Thank You Please come again
[05:31] <Hawkwind> JRH3K5: Google.com/linux and tldp.org
[05:32] <actinic> Hawkwind, what's the link to your site?  I forgot.
[05:32] <DaSkreech> actinic: So you don't really care if we get the most beer just as long as we can get more ineberaited than Ubnutu :)
[05:33] <actinic> DaSkreech, that's right & also because the heat generated from an app running 100% cpu load creates a warm environment, thus the great need for another cold one!
[05:33] <Hawkwind> actinic: To the forums ?  http://LinuxForDummies.org/  To the deb repo, http://SeerOfSouls.com/
[05:34] <actinic> :)
[05:34] <actinic> ok thanks, that's it
[05:35] <actinic> we've got potential for a real kick ass team, or at least an inebriated one
[05:35] <Jucato> I'll go for the inebriated one :-D
[05:35] <actinic> well i'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
[05:37] <soulrider> hey Hawkwind i gto something to ask you :P
[05:37] <soulrider> this morning i upgraded HAL and since then in media:/ i can see my NTFS drives BUT i cant open or mount my pen drive unless i do it via CLI
[05:37] <DaSkreech> actinic: Wouldn't it make more sense just to havea  clustering forums?
[05:38] <soulrider> do you have any ideas of what can be happening?
[05:38] <jontec> Gah. The one thing that kills open source is merely the documentation and support.
[05:38] <jontec> The mySQL documentation is much too broad and... just isn't easy to follow.
[05:38] <Jucato> soulrider: a bug in KDE 3.5.4 and Kubuntu's HAL...
[05:38] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Revert back to an older version of HAL.  I know other distros that have the same problems and there doesn't seem to be any work around other than reverting
[05:39] <soulrider> ok, how do i revert? :/
[05:39] <actinic> DaSkreech, there was a faq about clusters both pro & con.  Haven't researched it
[05:39] <soulrider> it fixed one thing and broke another thing! :D
[05:39] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I'm listening, too :-D
[05:39] <actinic> but it sounds interesting!
[05:39] <Hawkwind> soulrider: You using KDE 3.5.4 ?
[05:39] <soulrider> yes
[05:39] <Jucato> me too, me too! :-D
[05:39] <soulrider> lol Jucato
[05:40] <Jucato> actually, the problem doesn't exist if you don't have HAL installed/updated
[05:40] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Jucato:  This how-to will revert you from KDE 3.5.4 to 3.5.3 which I did myself due to issues with konqueror outside of KDE since I do *not* use KDE:   http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.0
[05:40] <Jucato> but I don't know what I'm missing without HAL
[05:40] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Jucato:  That is a how-to I wrote with some help of a couple of others here so I posted it on my forums
[05:40] <soulrider> i dont even know what hal is for :P
[05:41] <soulrider> grat Hawkwind, ill register too :)
[05:41] <actinic> hardware abstraction layer, whatever that means
[05:41] <Hawkwind> HAL handles the automounting of devices and such
[05:41] <DaSkreech> I'm sorry soulrider I can't allot you to know that
[05:41] <DaSkreech> allow
[05:41] <Jucato> Hawkwind: err.. so you mean downgrade KDE 3.5.4? I thought you meant downgrading HAL to an earlier version
[05:41] <Hawkwind> It handles mounting, unmounting and various other things dealing with media sources
[05:42] <soulrider> ah
[05:42] <soulrider> lol DaSkreech
[05:42] <Hawkwind> Jucato: You probably could do that, but if it's a bug in KDE 3.5.4 then reverting HAL probably won't work
[05:42] <soulrider> when i saw there was an upgradable package adn that is was hal i thought of 2001 a space odysey :P
[05:43] <Jucato> Hawkwind: when I installed "this" Kubuntu I'm using right now, it didn't have HAL installed (until a few hours ago). KDE 3.5.4 was working properly, and I could still mount/unmount drives.
[05:43] <Jucato> then when I realized I didn't have HAL installed, I installed it, and WHAM, bugged again
[05:43] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Then try removing HAL.  But chances are you had HAL installed and just didn't know it
[05:43] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Ahhh, so remove it and see what happens
[05:43] <Jucato> Hawkwind: no. i really didn't have HAL installed
[05:45] <Jucato> 2006-08-14 22:31:52 install hal <none> 0.5.7-1ubuntu18.1
[05:47] <Jucato> I'll try removing HAL, but I'm quite too lazy right now to have to log out/restart for it to take effect :-D
[05:47] <vinicius_> teste
[05:48] <actinic> i'm hoping these 3.5.4 issues are resolved quickly
[05:48] <actinic> almost seems it wasn't bug tested enough
[05:48] <actinic> it's also slower
[05:49] <Jucato> well, you can bet the devs are working on it
[05:49] <Jucato> hm... I find it a bit faster, if just a bit
[05:49] <soulrider> Hawkwind: i coultn downgrade :S
[05:49] <soulrider> i followed the steps but it didnt install packages
[05:50] <actinic> is it common for KDE to come out with small upgrades, like <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>, etc?
[05:50] <Hawkwind> soulrider: You need to make sure you are using the right mirrors and also make sure your sources.list doesn't have any source that contains 3.5.4 currently
[05:50] <Hawkwind> actinic: No
[05:51] <Jucato> the 3.5.4 itself is the small upgrade...
[05:51] <soulrider> i will re check
[05:51] <actinic> what was the wait time from 3.5.3 to 3.5.4?
[05:51] <actinic> or are they going directly to 4?
[05:52] <Jucato> actinic: I think the next release will be KDE 4
[05:52] <Hawkwind> Jucato: No
[05:52] <Hawkwind> The next release will be 3.5.5
[05:52] <actinic> sounds like we'lll be stuck with 3.5.4 for awhile
[05:52] <Jucato> there will be a 3.5.5?
[05:52] <Jucato> whoa
[05:52] <actinic> oh
[05:52] <Hawkwind> And probably a 3.5.6 and a 3.5.7
[05:53] <actinic> hey i've got a 357 in my closet!
[05:53] <soulrider> aparently i got 82 upgrades waiting :/
[05:53] <soulrider> guns kill people :P
[05:54] <soulrider> or is it the morons using htem? :/
[05:54] <Jucato> oh yeah I forgot, they're doing extended releases because KDE 4 aint that close yet...
[05:55] <actinic> my linux links site is coming along.  check it out:  http://www.whatsinyourbox.org/index.php/topic,1714.0.html
[05:55] <soulrider> Hawkwind: i think its downgrading :)
[06:04] <actinic> ok, don't forget:  join the kubuntu folding team & get inebriated :)
[06:04] <actinic> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7868.0
[06:04] <actinic> actinic out
[06:05] <cristian> boa noite
[06:07] <larson9999> yeah! my ait driver is working!  but i don't see yet why ati gets a bad rap.  is it only recently the drivers worked right?  or something else?
[06:13] <Hawkwind> larson9999: ATI has been the worse of the two for a couple of years now.  Their drivers are just very difficult to install and get working.
[06:13] <Hawkwind> larson9999: That might change now that they aren't going to be ATI anymore.  AMD has decided since the buyout to drop the ATI name all together
[06:19] <soulrider> Hawkwind: i started the downgrade
[06:20] <soulrider> it downloaded everything
[06:20] <soulrider> but adept said it had a problem and could break packages
[06:20] <soulrider> so it stopped
[06:20] <soulrider> hang on
[06:20] <soulrider> im reading, i think i gotta use sudo apt-get install -f
[06:20] <Hawkwind> Ummmm, hence why the how-to was written for doing it from the CLI
[06:20] <Hawkwind> I do *not* believe in GUI package managers.  They just never seem to work as well as doing things from the command line IMO
[06:22] <soulrider> i gotta restart x server now right?
[06:22] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Did you finish the downgrade with the -f option ?
[06:23] <soulrider> i did
[06:23] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Then restarting X is the best thing to do
[06:23] <soulrider> kk, brb
[06:23] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i know they used to be way worse 199* - 2000 time frame so i never tried them.  but my mobo crapped out and i found a pretty decent machine for pretty cheap so it made more since to buy a new machine than buy a mobo, ram, and cpu.
[06:24] <larson9999> Hawkwind: but this runs fine and was pretty easy to install.
[06:24] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Consider yourself lucky then :P
[06:24] <larson9999> Hawkwind: aha, i just have the one card that goes well?
[06:25] <Hawkwind> I won't support ATI since they won't make their drivers as easy to install as Nvidia.  I'm an Nvidia guy for a very long time to come
[06:25] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Everything ok ?
[06:25] <soulrider> le em check :P
[06:25] <soulrider> 3.5.3 ;)
[06:25] <soulrider> =d
[06:25] <soulrider> lets dot he pen drive test :P
[06:26] <larson9999> Hawkwind: well, i wouldn't have bought ati but it happened to be embedded.  it was so cheap that i just figured i'd use one of my nvidia cards with it.  but it installed ok so there you go.
[06:27] <soulrider> YES!
[06:27] <soulrider> WORKS!!! I LOVE YOU Hawkwind ;P
[06:27] <Hawkwind> soulrider: See how easy that was :)
[06:27] <Hawkwind> Hah
[06:28] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Glad I could help.  That how-to is very easy and works great IMO
[06:28] <soulrider> yes, it does!
[06:29] <soulrider> i feel like listening music form the 90's :P
[06:29] <soulrider> dunno why
[06:29] <Hawkwind> I'm listening to 80's stuff, of course, on my stream
[06:30] <soulrider> i like 80s music
[06:30] <soulrider> everyones gonna hate me for thsi, but i love Depeche Mode: P
[06:31] <Hawkwind> soulrider: I do too.  Awesome group
[06:31] <larson9999> i'm in hog heaven.  someone turned me on to this mainframe emulator and it rocks.  the thing i can't figure out is why i didn't see it before.  i google for emulators about every 2 months or so.
[06:31] <soulrider> Hawkwind: ever heard of fischerspooner ?
[06:31] <soulrider> if you like DM youll probably like them
[06:32] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Yep.  I have some of their stuff too
[06:32] <soulrider> :O
[06:32] <soulrider> im the biggest FS fan lol
[06:36] <erikdravn> Hello all.. a quick question.. has anyone else had trouble with the epositories being flakey lately (i.e. the last few days.. maybe a week or two)
[06:37] <Hawkwind> erikdravn: Which ones specifically ?
[06:37] <erikdravn> Wll, a times, I've found all odf them tobe down or not reachable
[06:37] <erikdravn> at
[06:37] <erikdravn> sorry, my keyboard is being flakey as well lol
[06:37] <Hawkwind> Sounds like a DNS issue on your end then
[06:38] <erikdravn> I thought so too..but I have tried it at 4 different location/networks
[06:39] <Hawkwind> I now archive.ubuntu.com was/is down so you have to use a mirror of it.  I switched to se.archive.ubuntu.com and the issues went away.  I have a *ton* of sources too and they all work
[06:39] <erikdravn> *nods*  Kool
[06:41] <erikdravn> Well, right now I'm updating my laptop and it couldn't connect to.. security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main kdelibs-bin 4:3.5.2
[06:41] <Hawkwind> erikdravn: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0   That's my sources list there if you want to take a look at it
[06:41] <erikdravn> awesome.. thanks
[06:41] <Hawkwind> No problem
[06:42] <Hawkwind> Failed to fetch http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/dapper-seveas/all/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[06:42] <Hawkwind> Heh, that's the only one that failed for me just now
[06:42] <erikdravn> :)
[06:43] <erikdravn> wow, you have a tonof repositries listed lol
[06:44] <Hawkwind> Hah yeah
[06:45] <erikdravn> I basically just have the ones listed at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[06:46] <erikdravn> ND I only added those because the oes I had would no connect at all.
[06:46] <erikdravn> and
[06:46] <larson9999> Hawkwind: speaking of package managers i've been running fc5 on my son's machine last week.  yum kinda sucks
[06:47] <erikdravn> I'm REALLY getting anoyed at this keyboard issue.. my key are sticking (ok, no jokes about sticky keys either lol)
[06:48] <erikdravn> if Iturn on key repeate.. i get all kina of lettersscrolling acros the screen so I switched it off.. but now it skipps keystrokes.. I can't win lol
[06:49] <erikdravn> I'm sure thats just a driver issue though
[06:49] <rOOb> !vmware
[06:49] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[06:50] <erikdravn> Ok, what exactly does vmware do?
[06:50] <erikdravn> Sorry for sounding so much ike a newb.. I'm not as new as I seem lol
[06:52] <erikdravn> ok, I seem to have oversayed my welcome ;) have a good one people
[06:54] <rOOb> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?
[06:55] <Hawkwind> /usr/src
[06:55] <rOOb> thansk Hawkwind
[07:04] <shrewd> hey guys, is there a program for linux which can scan websites for possible vulnerabilities or security flaws? (testing own website here not someone elses :)
[07:04] <soulrider> lol
[07:04] <soulrider> not that i know of, sorry
[07:04] <shrewd> damn :)
[07:05] <shrewd> i figured linux *should* have one, being integral to webserving & hacking :)
[07:05] <shrewd> i'm aware of many network scanners which can scan a network for vulnerabilities, but thats not really what i need ...
[07:10] <rOOb> hmm well i cant get vmware to install any one have any ideas...it keeps saying it cant find linux/version.h ive tried almost eveery dir in /usr/src
[07:10] <Jucato> rOOb:  have you tried installing the linux-headers package?
[07:11] <Jucato> !info linux-headers
[07:11] <ubotu> Package linux-headers does not exist in dapper
[07:11] <Jucato> hmm...
[07:11] <Jucato> I forgot the exact name of the package
[07:11] <rOOb> yea i have them
[07:12] <Jucato> hmm...
[07:12] <rOOb> yea
[07:13] <Dimon> hey does anybody knows, i have the following problem:
[07:13] <Dimon> I have a local ubuntu repository here
[07:14] <Dimon> but if i want to upgrade to kde 3.5.4 amarok 1.4.1 etc, what repositories should be mirrored?
[07:14] <Dimon> i want to ask admins about creating them..
[07:15] <Jucato> I think the website lists the repositories for KDE 3.5.4, etc
[07:15] <Jucato> For KDE 3.5.4: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[07:16] <Jucato> For Amarok 1.4.1: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[07:17] <Jucato> Take note, though, that a special repository is created for every new release. There's a "kde-latest" repository, but I'm not sure how reliable it is. Some said that it also contains RC (release candidates) sometimes, not always the stable/final release
[07:17] <Dimon> I mean: if there is a one repository which holds them all, maybe http://kubuntu.org/packages/ dapper main
[07:17] <Dimon> kde-latest is ubuntu repo or kde repo?
[07:18] <Jucato> kubuntu repo
[07:18] <Jucato> I'm not really  sure how reliable it is, though
[07:18] <Dimon> ok thanks i will ask them to create a mirror for kde-latest then :) i need it for my home pc so it's ok even to install rcs:)
[07:19] <Jucato> ok, just be careful. Like I said, some told me that sometimes, kde-latest also contains RC/beta releases, not always the stable ones. I can't confirm it though
[07:43] <Tonren> Does anyone know how to install kubuntu-desktop without clobbering gnome-desktop?
[07:44] <farous> clobbering ?
[07:45] <unix_infidel> does anyone get that distortion when they up the pcm device to max?
[07:45] <unix_infidel> where as if they max the master device, they dont get that distortion.
[07:45] <unix_infidel> (fyi: i'm running some senns here, its def not them)
[07:45] <Grundee> I am trying to compile and play a game written in python (Frets on Fire), but I am not able to compile one of the dependencies for some reason, I copied the library that it required from the binary distro of the game. I placed it in the same directory as the rest of the source and attempted to run the game. For some reason it gives the EXACT path to the library, followed by "cannot open shared object file: No fire or directory." Th
[07:45] <Grundee> e file is RIGHT THERE, and it appears that it located it. I am running a 64 bit version of kubuntu, would it give this error if the library was compiled for 32 bit?
[07:45] <farous> unix_infidel: me
[07:46] <unix_infidel> farous: know how i can fix that?
[07:46] <farous> do not know i just stopped putting it to max
[07:46] <farous> i thought it was my sound card
[07:46] <crimsun> Grundee: yes.
[07:47] <Tonren> farous: Every time I install kubuntu-desktop, the next time I log into GNOME, everything is fuxed
[07:47] <Grundee> Ok, thanks.
[07:48] <farous> Tonren: can you give more details what you mean by that i have them both installed no prob here
[07:48] <geneo93> crimsun:  did you get a chance to see if btaudio was in new kernel
[07:48] <farous> just cluttered menus
[07:48] <glick> hey
[07:48] <Tonren> farous: When I log back into GNOME, all of my bootup programs (gnome-panel, glipper, gnome-clock-manager, etc.) give errors, and I get a pretty much blank screen
[07:49] <Tonren> farous: It may work better now that there have been a few update,s but I'm too terrified to try because I don't want to have to reinstall again
[07:49] <glick> hey does kubuntu have any network applications runnign by default?
[07:49] <geneo93> kdelibs/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[07:49] <geneo93> why is this borked
[07:49] <glick> network services?
[07:49] <farous> Tonren: i never had this prob here. by the way my preferred wm are fluxbox and ion
[07:50] <crimsun> geneo93: looks like it to me:  filename:       /lib/modules/2.6.17-6-686/kernel/sound/oss/btaudio.ko
[07:50] <geneo93> so it might be something else then
[07:50] <Tonren> farous: fluxbox was too hardcore for me.  I like GNOME because it's pretty, and has a lot of neat plugins.  I've never heard of Ion.  What kind of changes do you make to fluxbox for it to fit your needs?  What's Ion like?
[07:50] <geneo93> crimsun:  what about alsa driver
[07:51] <farous> Tonren: ion is hardcore. fluxbox is pretty simple copuled with gkrellm for system status was all i needed
[07:51] <Tonren> farous: Hmm.  What's gkrellm?
[07:51] <Tonren> farous: I'll try them both out again.  I was a FAN of fluxbox, it's just... well, it was FUGLY for one thing
[07:51] <unix_infidel> lol.
[07:52] <crimsun> geneo93: this one?  /lib/modules/2.6.17-6-686/kernel/sound/pci/snd-bt87x.ko
[07:52] <unix_infidel> if you think aeroglass is decent looking...ya i think you could call fluxbox fugly.
[07:52] <unix_infidel> but you'd be wrong.
[07:52] <unix_infidel> *shrug* :P
[07:52] <glick> does anyone know what network services kubuntu starts by default
[07:52] <geneo93> wonder why it dont work
[07:52] <glick> ?
[07:52] <farous> Tonren: found it more usable here just get some themes from the net and check grellm on the net
[07:54] <glick> ?
[07:55] <geneo93> crimsun:  this is what i get from dmesg bt878: probe of 0000:03:0a.1 failed with error -22
[08:00] <crimsun> geneo93: before or after snd-bt87x is loaded?
[08:00] <glick> yay futurama
[08:00] <geneo93> i dont think it ever finds it
[08:00] <phx198> Here's a stupid question:  Is there any way to make the Windows Start Key (on they keyboard) open the K Menu?
[08:01] <Tonren> phx198: I'm sure... there HAS to be a way
[08:01] <Tonren> phx198: Let's see... normally, Alt + F1 does it, right?
[08:02] <phx198> Tonren:  Apparently so... (didn't know that...I just keep finding myself pressing that winkey to open the menu and getting frustrated when nothing happens).
[08:02] <Tonren> phx198: Well, do you think you can handle switching to Alt + F1, or is the winkey too useful?  I think that should totally be possible
[08:03] <geneo93> crimsun:  this is whole section http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20639
[08:03] <Tonren> phx198: The problem is that you'd want the Key UP event to open it, and not Key Down, and I'm not sure how you can specify that, even with something like Xbindkeys
[08:03] <phx198> Tonren:  It's not really any sort of problem, just something that would really make sense.
[08:03] <Tonren> phx198: Of course.  That's what linux is for.
[08:04] <Jucato> I remember seeing a sort of HOWTO in the ubuntuforums for that. I just can't seem to locate it now
[08:04] <Jucato> you could also try to just map the K Menu to Win+Space
[08:05] <Jucato> System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts options > Popup Launch Menu
[08:06] <Lynoure> Has anyone here has luck with kpilot? Here it has recently started going unresponsive when any of the settings is accessed and the small kpilot applet icon shows a "no" sysbol of a circle with a slash through it. What could I do?
[08:08] <unix_infidel> anyone used the tor pkg for dapper with breezy with any success?
[08:11] <Lynoure> Often it's easier to build your own than try to use wrong version...
[08:11] <crimsun> upstream also provides debs.
[08:14] <geneo93> kdelibs/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1_i386.deb can someone fix this
[08:16] <crimsun> seems fine to me.
[08:16] <geneo93> what the deb or dmesg
[08:17] <geneo93> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdelibs/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[08:20] <jontec_> does anyone know how to install the mySQL extensions for php5?
[08:20] <jontec_> other than recompiling it?
[08:27] <Philip5> jontec_: use apt-get
[08:27] <geneo93> !apci
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <Jucato> !info apci
[08:28] <ubotu> Package apci does not exist in dapper
[08:28] <geneo93> !apic
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <Philip5> jontec_: suso apt-get install php5-mysql or php5-mysqli
[08:29] <jontec_> thanks
[08:29] <Philip5> depending on if you want the improved module or not
[08:30] <obf213> hey i plug usb speakers in my laptop how do iget them to work
[08:30] <obf213> !sound
[08:30] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:30] <obf213> !speakers
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speakers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <jontec_> what are the start/stop commands for apache? does anyone know?
[08:31] <jontec_> in Konsole I mean
[08:32] <Philip5> jontec_: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[08:33] <Philip5> or sudo apache2ctl start
[08:33] <jontec_> thanks again. I forgot the 2 at the end of the command. T_T
[08:36] <noiesmo> why does openoffice have to be a dependancy of kubuntu-desktop adds like 80mb to download is there a way to get around itwent to novell suse 10 lauch apparently a world first -- they were showing of there new server 10 and desktop 10 release and of course xgl
[08:36] <noiesmo> why does openoffice have to be a dependancy of kubuntu-desktop adds like 80mb to download is there a way around it
[08:37] <Jucato> ask the devs... if it's not OpenOffice, maybe they would have put KOffice instead
[08:37] <geneo93> yes just use kde
[08:37] <farous> noiesmo: you can just remove it
[08:37] <unix_infidel> anyone here used the tor deb for breezy?
[08:37] <unix_infidel> and had any problems?
[08:37] <Philip5> noiesmo: you can use xgl with kubuntu too...
[08:38] <farous> kubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[08:38] <Jucato> kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage (quite annoying actually) that makes installing/uninstalling the default Kubuntu stuff easier...
[08:38] <noiesmo> I have removed it farous i'm running ubuntu and want to add kubuntu as well I will just use kde
[08:38] <geneo93> apt-get insrtall kde
[08:38] <thompa> is evolution supposed to work in kde?
[08:38] <geneo93> yes it will
[08:39] <Jucato> noiesmo: if you have ubuntu already, wouldn't you also have openoffice as well?
[08:39] <noiesmo> Philip5, thanks dude I know I just had to reinstall my system after edgy upgrade and i had a ubuntu disc here already check the link for tinyurl here
[08:39] <noiesmo> !xgl
[08:39] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:39] <farous> noiesmo: many are fans of openoffice i am one. it is the best office suite i used so far on linux and is necessity for any desktop
[08:39] <thompa> i guess im being sarcastic, its locking up and i have to terminate, it only works again after reboot
[08:40] <noiesmo> farous, yes yes it was just a q have been using linux openoffice for years
[08:40] <Jucato> I'm a fan of any office suite that uses ODF. Although I wish they're more compatible with each other...
[08:40] <thompa> evolution is totally unstable for me it seems, this is like the 3rd time ive tried it
[08:41] <farous> hm best i ment most mature
[08:41] <thompa> i guess i go back to kontact
[08:41] <thompa> evo is crashing whenever i try to send a reply
[08:42] <Jucato> thompa: maybe it's just Evolution on KDE. maybe Evolution on GNOME works better?
[08:42] <thompa> on my earlier version of ubuntu it crashed horribly and i lost all my email
[08:43] <Jucato> oh
[08:43] <thompa> i dont know why i keep trying it
[08:43] <farous> thompa: evol is my main mail server no probls what so ever here
[08:43] <farous> strange eh
[08:43] <thompa> great
[08:43] <thompa> ive tried it on 2 laptops and 2 computers nothing but trouble
[08:44] <thompa> now it wont even open so i can read email
[08:44] <geneo93> well unistall and reinstall
[08:44] <thompa> me?
[08:44] <farous> thompa: did you try typing evolution in a terminal. will give you a hint of the error
[08:44] <thompa> ok
[08:44] <geneo93> yes mine works just fine
[08:45] <thompa> CalDAV Eplugin starting up...
[08:45] <thompa> thats all
[08:45] <thompa> nothing else happens
[08:45] <Jucato> I've used Evolution lightly for about a month. seems to be working fine, although I used it in GNOME
[08:45] <geneo93> i use it in kde
[08:45] <thompa> so what is CalDAV, calendar i guess
[08:45] <Jucato> thompa: if/when it crashes, it would output the error messages in the terminal
[08:46] <thompa> CalDAV Eplugin starting up... is all i get
[08:46] <Jucato> and it won't open?
[08:46] <thompa> its stuck there
[08:46] <thompa> wont open
[08:46] <Jucato> hmm...
[08:46] <thompa> maybe its my pda
[08:46] <thompa> i did try to syn my pda once
[08:47] <thompa> sync
[08:47] <farous> thompa: your best bet is to ask on  #evolution on irc.gimp.org
[08:47] <thompa> but that was some days ago
[08:47] <thompa> i know
[08:47] <thompa> well kontact has never given me trouble so might as well just go back there
[08:47] <geneo93> ok then rename file in home dir and try it
[08:47] <thompa> its weird though
[08:48] <geneo93> .evolution
[08:48] <thompa> ok
[08:48] <rikioh> !pastebin
[08:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:49] <thompa> geneo93: like what file should i rename?
[08:49] <geneo93> .evolution
[08:49] <thompa> and then start it with new name?
[08:49] <geneo93> you need to view hidden
[08:50] <thompa> i can see it in command
[08:50] <farous> thompa: from my exp with evol. it is too integrated with gnome that it is best to reconfigure it using gconf-editor
[08:50] <geneo93> no use blank as if it was first time
[08:50] <thompa> ok ill try that
[08:51] <thompa> i can always reboot,
[08:51] <geneo93> sudo killall evolution
[08:51] <thompa> ok
[08:52] <wolfmanz> how do i updatye kde to the latest version?
[08:52] <thompa> after kill all its still stuck on CalDAV Eplugin starting up ...
[08:53] <thompa> i wonder if its kpilot or something
[08:53] <thompa> im trying to hack a tungsten t5
[08:53] <TheHighChild> hey guys
[08:53] <Lynoure> thompa: I've had endless trouble with kpilot, and possibly visor module :/
[08:54] <thompa> Lynoure: are you syncing with anything then?
[08:54] <Lynoure> thompa: jsut earlier asked if anyone has gotten them to work but no one said so
[08:54] <TheHighChild> Question: Any suggested mail servers for ubuntu? I'd like a webmail interface(ajax desired). It will only be supporting 1 user though
[08:54] <Lynoure> thompa: at the moment it does not seem to be happening. Previously, about once per boot, then I'd get a nasty error about visor module.
[08:55] <thompa> i had kpilot working up to 90%,
[08:55] <thompa> hmmm
[08:55] <geneo93> well your not the only one having trouble
[08:55] <geneo93> .com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2006-August/msg00047.html
[08:56] <thompa> kpilot is synching, but it gets stuck at around 90%, so i just pull the plug
[08:56] <thompa> all the data is their i think
[08:57] <geneo93> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2006-August/msg00054.html   another hint
[08:57] <thompa> ill try that , thanks
[08:58] <Lynoure> thompa: are you synching over the normal usb or some other means? And does it usually work fine for you?
[08:58] <geneo93> you renamed the file before to old or something right
[08:59] <thompa> Lynoure: usb, im going to try it just now, hang on
[09:00] <thompa> its syncing
[09:00] <thompa> now its backing up data
[09:01] <thompa> so far so good
[09:02] <thompa> genoa93: i have a couple of .cmeta files , not sure what to do
[09:03] <thompa> regarding evo that is
[09:03] <Lynoure> thompa: and you use dapper with the latest kubuntu kernel? If so, thank you for providing hope (if not, thank you anyway)
[09:03] <geneo93> just move them to temp like it says
[09:03] <thompa> Lynoure: well its at 95%
[09:04] <Lynoure> thompa: hmm...
[09:04] <thompa> Lynoure: just install all the kpilot stuff and choose kde for sync i guess
[09:04] <thompa> Lynoure: its backing up wifisetup, and some astronamy stuff
[09:05] <thompa> genoa93: thanks will do
[09:05] <Lynoure> thompa: That's what I have been trying to do. But often get stuck at around 30% or when the synch does not start at all. This morning I was about to give up and start backing up to a SD
[09:05] <thompa> Lynoure: kpilot crash signal 11
[09:06] <Lynoure> thompa: anything related in dmesg?
[09:06] <thompa> Lynoure: crashed whiel backing up PmNet Library
[09:06] <thompa> all my info is there, it crashes but works
[09:07] <thompa> Lynoure: i think i should maybe not backup apps
[09:07] <thompa> going to try again
[09:07] <Lynoure> thompa: so there was nothing in dmesg about error in visor module?
[09:08] <_rince_> mrgn
[09:08] <geneo93> not enough space
[09:08] <thompa> Lynoure: im looking at dmesg
[09:10] <thompa> im doing fast sync now, i did not see any errors
[09:10] <Lynoure> thompa: ok, thank you.
[09:10] <thompa> Unable to read system information from Pilot error
[09:11] <thompa> stuck at 30%
[09:13] <thompa> geneo93: do you think not enough space for data
[09:14] <geneo93> could be on pilot
[09:15] <thompa> well fast sync does not seem to work but hot sync does somewhat
[09:16] <thompa> geneo93: sorry, i mean all my data is on pilot
[09:16] <thompa> theres nothing in kontact as a source
[09:17] <TheHighChild> any mail server gurus?
[09:17] <geneo93> ok i need to reboot for newer kernel
[09:22] <danl> how do you save your session in kde?
[09:22] <geneo93> should be in kcontrol
[09:23] <danl> thanks
[09:24] <geneo93> kde componets
[09:26] <danl> anyway to force save a session, because everytime i reboot, kbfx and universal sidebar go away
[09:36] <m0ns00n> Hey! Anyone know how to turn off the F1 keyboard shortcut for KdeHelpcenter
[09:36] <m0ns00n> It's really annoying when I change desktop with ctrl+f1 and accidentially load the helpcenter...
[09:36] <m0ns00n> Tried to eradicate the shortcut but I'm left wondering if it's built in
[09:37] <m0ns00n> I see the helpcenter almost 20 times each day now! =) And I don't need it, I could just as well uninstall the whole thing
[09:37] <geneo93> well alt ctrl f1 works fine for me
[09:37] <m0ns00n> Sure
[09:37] <m0ns00n> But when I sometimes miss ctrl
[09:37] <m0ns00n> :-)
[09:37] <m0ns00n> quickly change from ctrl f1 f2 f3 etc
[09:37] <geneo93> that your fault not kdes
[09:38] <m0ns00n> geneo93: explain
[09:38] <m0ns00n> I know you want to
[09:38] <m0ns00n> You're telling me I can't switch off the hotkey for kde helpcenter?
[09:39] <shrewdy> look it up in helpcenter? :P
[09:39] <m0ns00n> I did
[09:39] <shrewdy> sorry i know thats not helpful i couldn't resist
[09:39] <m0ns00n> I know
[09:39] <m0ns00n> We're all used to it, and I guess we all wanna be on the dark side from time to time ;-)
[09:39] <shrewdy> i don't know how to turn it off, tbh i didn't even realise it was a link key for HC until you said so
[09:40] <shrewdy> and i use ctrl f1 all the time
[09:40] <m0ns00n> Weird that I'm the only one having this problem
[09:40] <m0ns00n> Many times when I quickly go to desktop 1, I just flip on ctrl-f1, and miss the ctrl :-)
[09:40] <m0ns00n> Then ... LOADING KDE HELP CENTER ARGHH! hehe
[09:40] <m0ns00n> Like I get punished for a typo
[09:40] <m0ns00n> =)
[09:40] <mulder_> hello there
[09:41] <shrewdy> it takes a split second to load ... is it really that anoying?
[09:41] <m0ns00n> imagine somebody slapping your wrist each time you wrote gwkki instead of hello
[09:41] <m0ns00n> =)
[09:41] <geneo93> you need hot keys package then
[09:41] <m0ns00n> shrewdy: yes, it takes 4+ seconds on a 700mhz
[09:41] <mulder_> I am new to Linux and have been enjoying it so far, but I have some problems solving a few things. Is this the right place to get help?
[09:41] <Jucato> System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts options > Application Shortcuts tab > Help
[09:42] <Jucato> m0ns00n: did you get that?
[09:42] <m0ns00n> Jucato: Yes.
[09:42] <m0ns00n> Jucato: Guess what f1 does
[09:42] <m0ns00n> heheheh
[09:42] <Ademan>  if i install the xserver-xorg-air-core package and i have an nvidia card, am i in trouble?
[09:43] <m0ns00n> Jucato: It seems it doesn't matter if it's switched off or not, f1 still prevails :-)
[09:43] <mulder_> I am trying to have Kubuntu recognizes my duo core cpu...don't know how to do it
[09:43] <geneo93> 686 kernel
[09:44] <mulder_> where do I start Geneo?
[09:44] <mulder_> really newbie
[09:45] <Jucato> m0ns00n: (Did you click on Apply?) also check your K Menu entry for KHelpCenter and make sure it doesn't have a shortcut for it, and don't forget to save it
[09:45] <geneo93> maybe you shoulld have dvd and use text to install
[09:46] <mulder_> I have the disk yes, but how can I get into text mode?
[09:46] <ninHer> hi all
[09:46] <m0ns00n> Jucato: I did
[09:47] <m0ns00n> Jucato: And I checked the kmenu
[09:47] <geneo93> mulder_:  have you installed it yet
[09:47] <mulder_> Yes Kubuntu is installed, dual boot with xp
[09:47] <m0ns00n> "Current shortcut key" "none"
[09:47] <Jucato> okay... running out of ideas...
[09:47] <geneo93> mulder_:  uname -a and paste the results
[09:48] <mulder_> in the terminal?
[09:48] <m0ns00n> Jucato: That's why I came here :-) Can you turn it off? Verify for yourselv?
[09:48] <geneo93> yes
[09:48] <m0ns00n> Jucato: If you can't it might be a long standing bug?
[09:49] <mulder_> Linux gman 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:49] <geneo93> yeah i see i386
[09:49] <mulder_> what does that mean Geneo?
[09:50] <geneo93> that means you have wrong kernel
[09:50] <Jucato> m0ns00n: couldn't turn it off after all... :-D
[09:50] <mulder_> is there something I can do?
[09:51] <geneo93> Linux kubuntu 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 03:13:28 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:51] <geneo93> this is what you should have
[09:51] <mulder_> I used an Ubuntu disc, and installed the kde desktop
[09:51] <geneo93> yeah sudo apt-get install linux-image-686
[09:51] <mulder_> can I do tha?
[09:51] <mulder_> that
[09:52] <geneo93> sure
[09:52] <mulder_> Do I need anything, I mean do I have to do something special before typing in the terminal?
[09:53] <geneo93> no
[09:54] <mulder_> I can't type my password :-(
[09:54] <geneo93> if you had networking during install it  already update repositories
[09:54] <mulder_> I don't understand sorry
[09:55] <geneo93> why cant you type your passwd
[09:55] <Ademan>  if i install the xserver-xorg-air-core package and i have an nvidia card, am i in trouble?
[09:56] <mulder_> I don't know...I just can't type it
[09:56] <m0ns00n> Jucato: Then it is a KDE bug
[09:56] <geneo93> use your user passwd
[09:56] <m0ns00n> bargh
[09:56] <m0ns00n> geneo93: so much for it being my fault :-P
[09:57] <geneo93> m0ns00n:  yes your typos
[09:57] <mulder_> still the same very strange...
[09:58] <geneo93> you sure caps lock aint on or something
[09:59] <mulder_> yes I can type in here, but not my paswod in terminal
[09:59] <m0ns00n> mulder_: Perhaps you already verified your password
[09:59] <Jucato> mulder_: the password you type in the terminal isn't really visible
[09:59] <geneo93> did you paste that line
[09:59] <m0ns00n> mulder_: Then it's already remembered
[09:59] <m0ns00n> mulder_: you don't have to type in the password each time you "sudo"
[09:59] <mulder_> but when I type sudo apt-get install linux-image-686 it is fine
[10:00] <mulder_> then it ask for the password
[10:00] <m0ns00n> aha
[10:00] <m0ns00n> Then write the password
[10:00] <m0ns00n> =)
[10:00] <m0ns00n> then hit <enter>
[10:00] <m0ns00n> =)
[10:00] <geneo93> oh it dont show just hit enter after
[10:01] <m0ns00n> yup
[10:01] <m0ns00n> no ***
[10:01] <mulder_> ok trying
[10:01] <m0ns00n> mulder_: Have you found the truth out there yet?
[10:01] <m0ns00n> :-)
[10:01] <Jucato>  @_@
[10:02] <mulder_> done
[10:02] <mulder_> it says sexyscully
[10:02] <mulder_> nope not that
[10:02] <mulder_> Couldn't find package linux-image-686
[10:03] <rx_> hi. im using latest kubuntu and i cant get mp3 to work with amarok. i installed libxineengine-extra and libmad0... i dont know why it doesnt work... i guess i wont have the choice to install gstreamer right? :|
[10:04] <mulder_> I have no idea about packages...mOnsoon, Geneo.
[10:05] <mulder_> do I have to download something before I try the sudo apt-get install linux-image-686 command?
[10:05] <geneo93> sudo apt-get update try that
[10:06] <geneo93> m0ns00n:  i got mine to stop working
[10:06] <mulder_> 0% [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]  [Connecting to archive.ubunt
[10:07] <mulder_> I don't know if it is connecting
[10:07] <Jucato> mulder_: try changing the gb. to uk. there seems to be a slight problem with the gb. servers
[10:08] <mulder_> witing the terminal?
[10:08] <mulder_> within
[10:08] <geneo93> no you cant
[10:08] <mulder_> ah
[10:08] <mulder_> 0% [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]  [Connecting to archive.ubunt
[10:08] <geneo93> you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:09] <mulder_> oh...hwere...how?
[10:09] <m0ns00n> mulder_: And you can do: "apt-cache search mykeyword | grep mysubkeyword"
[10:09] <m0ns00n> mulder_: the part "| grep..." is optional
[10:09] <geneo93> nano  /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:10] <mulder_> it says: GNU nano 1.3.10                          File: /ect/apt/sources.list
[10:11] <mulder_> and a few bit of extra stuff down
[10:11] <geneo93> oh yeah need sudo before that
[10:11] <mulder_> so it is: sudo nano....
[10:12] <geneo93> yes
[10:13] <geneo93> while your there remove the # in front of universe
[10:13] <mulder_> it gave me the same thing as before
[10:14] <mulder_> and still password is a pain
[10:14] <geneo93> and edit the file
[10:14] <geneo93> it wont ever show
[10:14] <geneo93> just hit enter
[10:15] <mulder_> geneo...all there is in the window is: GNU nano 1.3.10            and File: /ect/apt/sources.list
[10:16] <geneo93> well look at the file
[10:16] <mulder_> and a few things like get help, exit, writeout,etc
[10:17] <geneo93> yes you need to use arrow keys to move up down
[10:17] <geneo93> maybe you should read some then
[10:18] <mulder_> arrow keys don't work either
[10:18] <geneo93> they do if you click on terminal
[10:19] <mulder_> I am in terminal geneo
[10:19] <mulder_> and I typed the sudo nano...
[10:21] <geneo93> well then it should scroll down with down arrow
[10:21] <mulder_> scroll down to where geneo...?
[10:22] <Dimon> !help
[10:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:22] <geneo93> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper  multiverse
[10:22] <geneo93> you'll see line like this
[10:23] <Darkkish> hey
[10:23] <mulder_> not at all
[10:23] <geneo93> man i cant hold your hand
[10:24] <mulder_> I am sorry I am following what you are saying, but nothing is showing up
[10:24] <Darkkish> brb
[10:24] <Darkkish> or not
[10:24] <geneo93> you dont have souces list then
[10:24] <Darkkish> k i'm a linux n00b
[10:24] <Darkkish> and i need help installing nvidia drivers
[10:24] <geneo93> you must have used gui installer
[10:24] <mulder_> probably not...I am lost at sea here
[10:24] <Darkkish> i can wait in line no prob
[10:25] <mulder_> do I have to reinstall Kubuntu/ubuntu?
[10:25] <geneo93> !repositories
[10:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:25] <geneo93> mulder_: follow those instrutions
[10:26] <Darkkish> i don't suppose there is a repository for nvidia drivers?
[10:26] <mulder_> I am listening
[10:26] <Darkkish> i'm guessing that would be easier
[10:26] <geneo93> above i posted that thing
[10:26] <geneo93> Darkkish:  you too
[10:26] <Darkkish> k
[10:26] <mulder_> yes the link
[10:27] <Darkkish> i know a little bit about repositorys
[10:27] <mulder_> I know nothing
[10:27] <mulder_> they can be found in the synptic package manager right?
[10:27] <Darkkish> or adept...
[10:27] <Darkkish> if you have it
[10:28] <Darkkish> i think its the default
[10:28] <mulder_> I have adept yes
[10:29] <Darkkish> geneo93:  do i install nvidia-glx?
[10:29] <geneo93> yes
[10:29] <Darkkish> k thanks
[10:29] <Darkkish> what about legacy and kernal
[10:29] <geneo93> then you need to enable it
[10:29] <mulder_> what should I do geneo?
[10:29] <mulder_> I am in adept
[10:30] <geneo93> follow those instructions
[10:30] <geneo93> you need repositories
[10:30] <mulder_> from synaptic?
[10:30] <geneo93> it wont work if you have nothing in list
[10:30] <Darkkish> do i need to restart?
[10:30] <Darkkish> anything?
[10:30] <geneo93> christ
[10:31] <geneo93> wait
[10:31] <mulder_> ok I am in the Synaptic Package Manager
[10:32] <mulder_> and clicked on settings to show repositeries
[10:32] <geneo93> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable  then hit ctrl alt backspace
[10:33] <mulder_> and Software Preferences opened up
[10:34] <geneo93> you have no repositories in list though
[10:35] <geneo93> !repositories
[10:35] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:35] <geneo93> mulder_:  read above
[10:35] <geneo93> and go there
[10:36] <mulder_> ok
[10:36] <geneo93> you want main universe and multiverse and that should be all you need
[10:37] <Darkkish> getting an error message
[10:37] <geneo93> from what