[05:35] <bazhang> ducky108, sure there are. be patient
[05:35] <bloopletech> shifnix: ok, well won't hurt to try the open ssource driver
[05:35] <bloopletech> shifnix: one sec
[05:36] <hmw> tatvu: I hope it isn't contagious.
[05:36] <bazhang> ducky108, you never even joined there
[05:36] <tatvu> ?????????
[05:36] <Alec|2> I need to restore Grub but am having problems with the guide, anybody?
[05:36] <tatvu> i'm vietnamse
[05:37] <bazhang> !vn | tatvu
[05:37] <bloopletech> shifnix: you'll need to remove/purge the ATI driver, start with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver
[05:37] <jshmoe24> bazhang did you see my above post about earlier?
[05:37] <Loneclock> how do you install themes in ubuntu?
[05:37] <bloopletech> shifnix: if you installed the propreitry driver using the installer from ATI as opposed to an ubuntu package then you need to remove it a different way
[05:37] <bazhang> jshmoe24, yes, and did you try the prescribed fix
[05:37] <jshmoe24> yes
[05:38] <bazhang> Loneclock, drag the tar.gz to the theme manager
[05:38] <jshmoe24> I have before
[05:38] <jshmoe24> sudo apt-get install -f
[05:38] <jshmoe24> if what its telling me to do
[05:38] <Loneclock> bazhang where is the theme manager
[05:38] <jshmoe24> and I still get problems
[05:38] <shifnix> bloopletech: i don't THINK i installed anything extra; it's got whatever ubuntu put on it and updated through the update manager. if i did, however, add something, it would have been through aptitude
[05:38] <shifnix> definitely not an ATI proprietary installer
[05:38] <jshmoe24> any ideas, hold ill give you outupt
[05:38] <jshmoe24> output*
[05:38] <tatvu> thanks ubottu
[05:38] <bazhang> Loneclock, right click desktop change background, go to themes tab drag there
[05:39] <bloopletech> shifnix: ok, cool, then run the commands under the 'Problem: Need to purge -fglrx' section of that article
[05:39] <bloopletech> shifnix: actually the 'Problem: Need to fully remove -fglrx and reinstall -ati from scratch' section
[05:39] <glider> Any ideas why I might not be able to disable tap to click?
[05:39] <Loneclock> bazhang what if it is a glow theme?
[05:39] <shifnix> bloopletech: ok, i will try this and report back....
[05:40] <bloopletech> then make dure your xorg.conf is either set to use the radeon driver, or not specifally setting a driver
[05:40] <shifnix> once i've done all this do i need to redo any configs as well?
[05:40] <shifnix> ok
[05:40] <bloopletech> shifnix: then reboot and see
[05:40] <bazhang> Loneclock, not sure what a glow theme is
[05:40] <Poshepocket> I like how I've been using my battery on battery without charging for at least three hours and the battery is saying it is fully charged and is charging.
[05:40] <Alec|2> Please help, Im trying to restore grub/find my files but I that partition isnt showing up
[05:40] <jshmoe24> @bazhang : this is the output of sudo apt-get install -f from before [05:40] <jshmoe24> dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[05:40] <Loneclock> bazhang there is a png image and some code in gedit
[05:41] <ducky108> you are now talking on <winehq>
[05:41] <shifnix> Poshepocket: aha, my netbook does the same thing
[05:41] <Poshepocket> I hate my battery, it is so frustrating. Unless I restart the whole thing, it won't show me an accurate amount of battery it has.
[05:41] <bazhang> Loneclock, does not sound like a theme
[05:41] <Loneclock> bazhang nvm
[05:41] <Poshepocket> shifnix, rawr
[05:41] <ducky108> so are there any other servers?
[05:41] <bazhang> ducky108, you are not in there
[05:41] <jshmoe24> @bazhang : did you see my responce
[05:41] <jshmoe24> :?
[05:42] <Alec|2> Bahzang, You helped me alot before , is it possible to get one more piece of advice?
[05:42] <jshmoe24> dang your the ubuntu master hazbang everyone wants your help, hahaha rofl
[05:43] <jshmoe24> hazbang has like 3 or 4 conversations going on at once. Nice. :)
[05:43] <hmw> glad not being bazhang :)
[05:44] <jshmoe24> rofl
[05:44] <jshmoe24> I dont think i will ever get this worked out I can't find anything on it anywhere else
[05:44] <jshmoe24> no one seems to have an answer
[05:44] <lynix> of what?
[05:44] <lynix> ans
[05:45] <lynix> tell prob
[05:45] <jshmoe24> lynix you talking to me
[05:45] <jshmoe24> ?
[05:45] <Alec|2> Can anyone help me, Im having trouble restoring Grub
[05:46] <jshmoe24> I have a libc6 dependency problem
[05:46] <lynix> yup!
[05:46] <^Phantom^> How can I run a windows command-line executable from within terminal?
[05:46] <ejv> Alec|2: an error message or some real details might get you further...
[05:46] <ejv> ^Phantom^: you need to use a windows emulation program like "wine"
[05:47] <jshmoe24> I have already went into recovery mode and did dpkg fixing and did sudo apt-get install -f but still nothing. My update manager tries to do it and hangs too.
[05:47] <^Phantom^> I have wine, but the program is command-line based.
[05:47] <jshmoe24> @lynix
[05:47] <christhecoolboy> Making Themes...
[05:47] <christhecoolboy> How is it done?
[05:47] <Alec|2> ejv, there is no error message, but i installed windows 7 on a new partition, and now I cant access my ubuntu pa partition, that partition shows up in the partition editor as extended
[05:48] <ejv> Alec|2: i know very little about grub, i'd check the ubuntu forums or the community docs while you wait, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:48] <Alec|2> ejv, the guide tells me I need to mount the partition, but when I try to mount /sda3 it says: mount: can't find /dev/sda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:49] <Alec|2> Ejv, the problem is less about grub and more about this weird partition
[05:49] <ejv> ^Phantom^: what program?
[05:49] <^Phantom^> It's called gbsnd.exe
[05:49] <^Phantom^> It extracts audio data from gba games.
[05:50] <Nomikos> I'm having a strange issue with a (extremely simple proof of concept) php script that I'm trying to start in the background with "./foo.php &" - it refuses to start
[05:50] <ejv> ^Phantom^: and 'wine gbsnd.exe' doesn't do the trick?
[05:50] <^Phantom^> Oh, I didn't try that, let me try
[05:50] <Nomikos> As soon as I foreground it, it runs fine. Launching in the foreground also fine. Same script on OS X, & works.
[05:50] <bloopletech> Nomikos: try "php ./foo.php" instead
[05:50] <Nomikos> bloopletech: tried that, too
[05:50] <Nomikos> jobs just says it's there but "stopped"
[05:50] <hmw> Alec|2: if it tries to look it up in fstab, it means, that it is not a normal ext3/4 partition (did you perhaps reformat the linux partition to NTFS or something?)
[05:51] <bloopletech> Nomikos: so show the exact command that works and the one that doesn't work?
[05:51] <^Phantom^> Ah, that does the trick, thank you, ejv :)
[05:51] <ejv> ^Phantom^: you're welcome
[05:51] <Nomikos> bloopletech: "./foo.php" works, as does "php ./foo.php". "./foo.php &" does nothing until I fg it
[05:52] <Alec|2> im not sure hmw
[05:52] <Nomikos> bloopletech: this is the script: http://codepad.org/jT5EWr5K
[05:52] <ejv> ^Phantom^: keep in mind that your mileage will vary for different programs running under WINE. It's the wild wild west.
[05:52] <^Phantom^> Hehe.
[05:52] <Alec|2> hmw, when i ran this tool under file system it says : extended partition
[05:52] <hmw> Nomikos: interesting. you could ask in #php, too, perhaps this behaviour is intended...?
[05:53] <Nomikos> hmw: they sent me here :-/ but one guy was able to reproduce it.
[05:53] <bloopletech> Nomikos: wait... what behaviour are you expecting?
[05:53] <jshmoe24> lynix you here man?
[05:53] <hmw> Alec|2: ah. try sda5 instead
[05:53] <bloopletech> Nomikos: does it touch a foobar file in the working directory?
[05:53] <Nomikos> bloopletech: it should run, create the file foobar
[05:53] <Nomikos> bloopletech: it does not
[05:53] <Alec|2> hmw, sda5 is linux-swap, should i still do it?
[05:53] <jshmoe24> @lynix : I have already went into recovery mode and did dpkg fixing and did sudo apt-get install -f but still nothing. My update manager tries to do it and hangs too.
[05:54] <bloopletech> Nomikos: your problem is probably that backgrounding it changes the CWD and cuts off STDIN and STDOUT
[05:54] <bloopletech> Nomikos: change the touch line to be an absolute path
[05:54] <jshmoe24> also I cant burn dvds either for some reason
[05:54] <hmw> Alec|2: continue trying to mount. next: sda6. one should be your OS partition (verify it, before doing the grub repair)
[05:54] <jshmoe24> its really wierd
[05:54] <Nomikos> bloopletech: hmm.. a more complicated script had the same behaviour but I'll try
[05:54] <hmw> Alec|2 did you pastebin the output of    sudo fdisk -l   already?
[05:55] <jshmoe24> r u there lynix?
[05:55] <Alec|2> hmw, here is a disk utility output http://paste.ubuntu.com/555317/
[05:55] <Nomikos> bloopletech: it's the same with a full path
[05:56] <Drainix> Hello, I recently connected a HDMI cable to my monitor, my monitors maximum resolution is 1680x150 at 60Hz. I set it to that resolution and all the other offered resolution in the ATI administrative control center yet, there are black bars on the top, bottom, right and left depending on particular resolution, but I can not find one that just fits, any help is appreciated.
[05:56] <Alec|2> sda3 is the 118 gbs where ubuntu supposedly was hmw
[05:56] <Nomikos> jobs shows "[1]+ Stopped       ./testing.php" and fg will run it, create the file, echo, etc
[05:56] <Alec|2> also, mounting sda5 (the swap did not work) hmw, and there is no sda6
[05:56] <shifnix> bloopletech: interestingly, i cna't get the ATI driver to show iup in the restricted drivers manager for the life of me
[05:57] <bloopletech> Nomikos: hang on
[05:57] <Drainix> Sorry maximum resolution is 1680x 1050 60 Hz *
[05:57] <hmw> Alec|2 according to the info you pastebinned, you managed to delete your linux partition.  There is only a 11 GB swap partition.
[05:58] <root_> helow
[05:58] <bloopletech> Nomikos: run php -v and see if the PHP executable is under the CLI or the CGI SAPI?
[05:58] <Drainix> SADFACE
[05:58] <jshmoe24> hello root_  can you help me?
[05:58] <root_> Ny indians hear
[05:58] <Drainix> I spend like 5 minutes typing my help question thing and get no help :(
[05:58] <root_> ya
[05:58] <Alec|2> hmw, my partition editor says there is 112 gb in sda3 as unallocated, this is where my linux partition should be
[05:59] <bloopletech> Drainix: ooh diddums. So you're using the ati propietry driver?
[05:59] <Alec|2> is there any way to install ubuntu with minimal damage to any files that might not have been deleted?
[05:59] <Nomikos> bloopletech: http://codepad.org/UBDMtDm3
[05:59] <jshmoe24> I have already went into recovery mode and did dpkg fixing and did sudo apt-get install -f but still nothing. My update manager tries to do it and hangs too.
[05:59] <root_> jshmoe24 i wil............
[05:59] <bloopletech> Drainix: Is there an overscan option in the control center?
[05:59] <hmw> Alec|2 an extended partition is just a place holder for more partitions, if you used up the 4 primary ones. your sda3 is containing sda5 in a sense.
[05:59] <christhecoolboy> how do I make my own theme?
[05:59] <jshmoe24> libc6 dependency problems
[05:59] <jshmoe24> @root
[05:59]  * Nomikos waves at sladen
[05:59] <root_> ???
[06:00] <jshmoe24> cant burn any dvds either just quit
[06:00] <Alec|2> so do you think all of my data is unrecoverable hmw?
[06:00] <jshmoe24> with update i thing
[06:00] <jshmoe24> think*
[06:00] <Nomikos> bloopletech: AFAIK it's a standard apt-get install php5-cli, if that helps
[06:00] <bloopletech> Nomikos: yeah, it's CLI, one sec
[06:01] <root_> its the problem of ur dvd driver......... <please reinstall it
[06:01] <jshmoe24> its my dvd driver ?
[06:01] <jshmoe24> really
[06:01] <jshmoe24> how do you get that
[06:01] <Ganymede> I'm reading this post-install script that someone else wrote...he put some enivironment variables in (MATLAB_JAVA) in /etc/environment but others (like JAVA_HOME and EC2_PRIVATE_KEY) in /etc/profile...why are the environment variables split across these two files?
[06:01] <hmw> Alec|2: it is theoretically recoverable, unless the sectors had been written to, which is unlikely in your situation. Get your disk to a professional in order to recover your stuff. If you can't afford it, learn how to and then clone your disk (dd perhaps), then try some recovery tools/procedures on the COPY.
[06:01] <jshmoe24> one sec ill try to find asource tar file for it
[06:02] <Alec|2> hmw, I have some experience with file recovery tools
[06:02] <Alec|2> i think ill use that
[06:02] <Alec|2> thank you, ill do that now
[06:02] <bloopletech> Nomikos: try ./foo.php -- &
[06:03] <root_> how can i install flash player...........?
[06:03] <root_> how can i install flash player...........?
[06:03] <bloopletech> also are you sure the absolute path is correct?
[06:03] <root_> how can i install flash player...........?
[06:03] <bloopletech> root_: try google
[06:03] <Loshki> Alec|2: you could try testdisk (http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk)
[06:03] <Nomikos> bloopletech: same, with and without "php" in front of it
[06:03] <hmw> spam is off topic lol
[06:03] <Alec|2> thank you hmw
[06:03] <christhecoolboy> I'm asking a question but not getting an answer
[06:04] <bl4ckh4t> hi people
[06:04] <a3452336634357> hey guys. Does anyone know how to remove menu popup delay in ubuntu?
[06:04] <hmw> probable reason: nobody knows really.
[06:04] <bloopletech> Nomikos: hmm, in other news, you can drop the '-q' - it's not a valid otion to the phpcli binary
[06:04] <Nomikos> bloopletech: another channel suggested it was related to stty and to try "stty -tostop", but that didn't do it either
[06:04] <HunterBukowski> hola
[06:05] <christhecoolboy> I ask a simple question that I do not know "how do I make my own theme on ubuntu?", and nobody knows...
[06:05] <Nomikos> dropped
[06:05] <hmw> christhecoolboy: ^   ... you will have to find various dirs and adjust scripts aso. Start slowly by changing a working theme.
[06:05] <bazhang> christhecoolboy, its outside the scope of this channel
[06:05] <heslam> christthecoolboy: i recommend studying an existing theme. to be honest that's the best literature i've found on the subject too
[06:05] <heslam>  "go look at existing themes" :P
[06:05] <christhecoolboy> bazhang, what channel should I go to then?
[06:06] <Ganymede> There's a serious bootstrapping issue with that...how did the person write the first theme ever?
[06:06] <shifnix> bloopletech: bad news,,,lots of artifacts :(
[06:06] <HunterBukowski> christ:  christ I don't know
[06:06] <bazhang> christhecoolboy, as others have said, check existing ones and learn how those are put together
[06:06] <Ganymede> Using the source as documentation?
[06:06] <bloopletech> shifnix: pastie your latest xorg config
[06:06] <hmw> christhecoolboy: I suppose, there is no channel for your question.
[06:06] <christhecoolboy> if I edit one, I cant submit it to canoicsal, can I?
[06:06] <christhecoolboy> *canoical
[06:06] <shifnix> bloopletech: i don't have one by default. i made one to force the VESA driver before, but i moved that so x wouldn't load it
[06:06] <bloopletech> Nomikos: try ./php > temp.txt 2>&1 &
[06:07] <bazhang> christhecoolboy, you could put it up at gnome-look.org
[06:07] <bloopletech> shifnix: Log, not config :)
[06:07] <bloopletech> sorry
[06:07] <christhecoolboy> bazhang, I wanted it to be  a part of ubuntu
[06:07] <a3452336634357> hey guys. Does anyone know how to remove menu popup delay in Ubuntu?
[06:07] <shifnix> bloopletech: np, sec
 sorry for the delay
 I am using the ati propitiatory driver uh I think
[06:07] <bloopletech> christhecoolboy: then you'll need to liase with the people behind the update manager
[06:07] <Drainix> And I will look for overscan option
[06:08] <shifnix> bloopletech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/555323/
[06:08] <bloopletech> Drainix: I've had similar problems (but with the open source driver). Note your TV may also have an option on handling the input
[06:08] <Nomikos> bloopletech: it does create the temp.txt file, but there's no data in it, until I fg it again
[06:09] <Nomikos> at which point it also creates the foobar file (from the script)
[06:09] <Drainix> It is actually a computer monitor.
[06:09] <bloopletech> Nomikos: and you're saying it then works? hmmm
[06:09] <Ganymede> If I want to tune2fs my / to lower the percentage of reserved blocks, do I have any other options other than booting into, say, a LiveCD?
[06:09] <Drainix> And I can not find any input options in the menu, <bloopletech>
[06:09] <Nomikos> bloopletech: well... the php code doesn't actually run, until I fg it
[06:09] <Nomikos> at which point, yes, it runs fine. It also runs fine when started in the foreground
[06:09] <bloopletech> Nomikos:  ok that's really wierd, may be a PHPism
[06:10] <Drainix> Should I try installing the open source drivers ? bloopletech
[06:10] <bloopletech> shifnix: That looks a lot healthier - what do you mean specifically by artifacts?
[06:10] <Nomikos> bloopletech: can you reproduce it - if you're willing?
[06:10] <bloopletech> Drainix: I don't know if that would improve things, hang on
[06:10] <bloopletech> Nomikos: I don't have php installed osrry ;)
[06:10] <Drainix> bloopletech: You seem very busy take your time :)
[06:10] <Nomikos> bloopletech: fair enough
[06:10] <wookienz> guys, why does my NFS share get mounted as UId "1024" gid "users". the only permissions on it are rw for owner. nothing else. ideas?
[06:11] <bloopletech> Nomikos: I'd google around the php manual / forums / IRC / see if anyone else on linux has the same issue
[06:11] <root_> how can i install flash player...?
[06:11] <hmw> Nomikos: bloopletech: that's what I suspect; because it is a language mainly for web pages, it might be intentional behavior. I'd ask in #php to rule this out. If it turns out, that it is not normal behavior, perhaps people in #bash can help.
[06:11] <hmw> !flash
[06:12] <Loshki> Ganymede: no, you pretty much need a livecd to do that kind of change on the root filesystem....
[06:12] <Nomikos> hmw: I did ask in #php, one guy could reproduce it and said to ask here
[06:12] <bloopletech> hmw: yeah, well php has a specific CLI binary for running scripts from the commandline - so it's wierd that it would wait for a signel to work
[06:12] <Ganymede> Loshki, Okay, thank, I was wondering if there was some GRUB option or something to boot into an alternate root of some sort from where I could modify my / filesystem.
[06:12] <mister_m> does anyone have experience with tiling window managers? Could someone recommend me one that is easy to get started with ?
[06:12] <hmw> Nomikos: bloopletech: I see. I have no idea, what could be wrong. Can you pastebin the PHP source? But I doubt, the error is there.
[06:13] <bloopletech> Drainix: I'll put it this way - the propietry driver may be more likely to have a simple option to fix it. OTOH I actually have some familiarity with the open source driver, and I know how to twiddle more knobs - but the driver probably has less overall support for 3d etc.
[06:13] <Nomikos> hmw: http://codepad.org/jT5EWr5K
[06:13] <bloopletech> Drainix: btw which chipset do you have?
[06:13] <jshmoe24> @root : the website where you download the drivers for my machine which is an acer extensa 5620 is at ==> http://support.acer.com/us/en/product_support.aspx?tab=1  <==  but they
[06:13] <Drainix> uhm
[06:13] <Nomikos> hmw: that's without the -q and with a full path, in my updated file
[06:13] <Drainix> Chipset uhm i do not know >.< sorry I don't even have my computer specs memorized
[06:14] <jshmoe24> but there are only windows drivers there
[06:14] <jshmoe24> no linux drivers
[06:14] <Drainix> bloopletech: how could I identify my chipset?
[06:14] <Nomikos> hmw, bloopletech: thanks for your suggestions and time, I think for now I'll just start it in a screen session and detach that. Tomorrow I'll try more google fu
[06:15] <bloopletech> Drainix: there should be a bit in the control center with the name of your card, Like Radeon xxxx blah blah
[06:15] <bloopletech> give me that
[06:15] <a3452336634357> hey guys. Does anyone know how to remove menu popup delay in Ubuntu?
[06:15] <Drainix> ooh
[06:15] <bloopletech> Nomikos: np
[06:15] <jshmoe24> basically i needa linux alternative driver for an acer extenza 5620 by what your saying, so is there a site that i can find that at?
[06:15] <jshmoe24> @root_
[06:15] <hmw> Screen is a nice "solution" heh.
[06:15] <Drainix> ATI Radeon HD 3450
[06:15] <Loshki> Ganymede: you could create an alternative root system e.g. copy / to a spare partition, then boot the spare, and modify /, but that's a lot more work than just booting the livecd. You might wanna backup the root partition before you go making changes, so having a spare root partition isn't a bad idea anyway...
[06:15] <Drainix> bloopletech: ATI Radeon HD 3450
[06:15] <shifnix> bloopletech: it looks like this: http://shifuimam.com/misc/Screenshot.png
[06:15] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: break it down into the actual different pieces of hardware you have, and see which bits need drivers
[06:15] <Nomikos> hmw: suggestions welcome :)
[06:15] <bloopletech> Drainix: shifnix one sec
[06:16] <hmw> Nomikos: I am doing a web search right now
[06:16] <Ganymede> Loshki, Thanks for the advice.
[06:16] <jshmoe24> I have that from the site but hte drivers are in windowz format
[06:16] <jshmoe24> @bloopletech
[06:16] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: you will need to source drivers from elsewhare, I already told ytou what to do
[06:17] <mister_m> does anyone have experience with tiling window managers? I'm looking for one that is easy to get started with
[06:17] <bazhang> mister_m, perhaps awesome
[06:17] <Nomikos> hmw: don't put too much time in it, I've spent way too long on it already. Tomorrow I'll describe the issue better in a longer pastebin with the things I've tried, and show that in #bash and similar
[06:17] <bazhang> mister_m, there are a number in the repos
[06:18] <bloopletech> Drainix: your chipset should have a reasonable level of support - it may be worth a try if you have a fair bit of time
[06:18] <hmw> Nomikos: well... you got me started *g* i might not be here tomorow :/
[06:18] <mister_m> bazhang, I was considering dwm
[06:18] <bl4ckh4t> ya
[06:18] <dsevigny> Would anyone be willing to help me set up/configure an irc server for use with a game server I'm running? I'm fairly new to irc but very keen on learning
[06:18] <mister_m> bazhang, I suppose I should just try them all out
[06:19] <Nomikos> hmw: just saying, if you have something more important to do .. but I'm not stopping you ;-)
[06:19] <hmw> :)
[06:19] <bloopletech> shifnix: well that is wack
[06:19] <shifnix> bloopletech: i know :(
[06:19] <bloopletech> shifnix: hmm
[06:19]  * Nomikos will be here for a while yet, and leave irssi running
[06:19] <shifnix> it makes terminal completely unusable
[06:19] <bloopletech> shifnix: you're running 10.10 with gnome right?
[06:19] <mister_m> unrelated to my previous question, but I somehow managed to stop my open apps from appearing on the 'panel' I have on the bottom of my screen. How do I get them back?
[06:19] <bloopletech> shifnix: are you running compiz?
[06:19] <shifnix> bloopletech: no. it won't enable.
[06:20] <hmw> Nomikos: did you try to call your script with php <scriptname> and WITHOUT the sheebang?
[06:20] <bloopletech> shifnix: as in, the option is greyed out?
[06:20] <Nomikos> hmw: ..that one, not yet. hold on
[06:20] <Drainix> bloopletech: I have nothing but time,Just no idea what to do.:)
[06:21] <root_> Can i get gtalk ????
[06:21] <mister_m> do i need to add something back to the panel?
[06:21] <Nomikos> hmw: same :/
[06:21] <shifnix> bloopletech: it's not grayed out, but when i click it, the screen flashes a few times and i get a popup saying that desktop effects could not be enabled
[06:21] <bazhang> mister_m, reset panels to default?
[06:21] <bazhang> !resetpanels | mister_m
[06:21] <bloopletech> shifnix: hmm hang on
[06:22] <shmup> sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found
[06:22] <shmup> , running 10.04 server
[06:22] <mister_m> bazhang, thanks boss
[06:22] <bazhang> shmup, whats the full command
[06:22] <shmup> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner"
[06:23] <bloopletech> Drainix: first thing is to double-check that the monitor doesn't have any config options itself
[06:23] <shmup> i'm just trying to install sun's java
[06:23] <bazhang> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" shmup
[06:24] <shmup> what is it requiring after that?
[06:24] <shmup> its sitting there, still
[06:24] <shmup> wanted me to type _something_
[06:24] <Drainix> bloopletech: I installed no drivers with the monitor and the only thing I see that looks like it could help is auto adjust (Greyed out cant use) and Positioning which is also greyed out.
[06:24] <jshmoe24> @bloopletech thats a good question if you look at this => http://support.acer.com/us/en/product_support.aspx?tab=1  <== thats the windows one
[06:24] <bazhang> shmup, update your sources.list after that then install it
[06:24] <jshmoe24> I cant find anything in linux for this situation
[06:24] <bloopletech> Drainix: Yeah I meant on the monitor hardware itself, so if no option then:
[06:25] <jshmoe24> @bloopletech
[06:25] <Drainix> bloopletech: Wow.
[06:25] <Drainix> bloopletech: fixed it.
[06:25] <bloopletech> Drainix: second is to grab the latest version of the propietry drivers for linux, install them, and see if there's a scaling / overscan slider. try using that
[06:25] <bloopletech> wut
[06:25] <Drainix> lmfao
[06:25] <Drainix> I hit the factory reset option
[06:25] <bloopletech> Drainix: HURR DURRR
[06:25] <Drainix> Guess I should have tried that first, but I never changed any settings.
[06:25] <Drainix> bloopletech: sorry to waist your time :P
[06:26] <Drainix> bloopletech: thank you though xD
[06:26] <jshmoe24> @bloopletech thats a good question if you look at this => http://support.acer.com/us/en/product_support.aspx?tab=1  <== thats the windows one
[06:26] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: what exactly is your issue? Does your computer work? What does / doesn't work? Linking to some POS Acer page is not going to solve you rproblem. As I said at forst, find out what's nto working and then research the specific problem
[06:26] <bloopletech> Drainix: no problem :0
[06:26] <bloopletech> *:p
[06:27] <hmw> Nomikos: how weird...
[06:27] <bl4ckh4t> guys i have a problem with main hp dv7 4177nr
[06:27] <bl4ckh4t> wit wireless ralink
[06:27] <jshmoe24> I have thats why im asking you because you are the one that says you can help in some way but you not helping much im trying to give you my output so you know my situation!
[06:27] <bloopletech> shifnix: heh, you're lurking in #xkcd-*?
[06:28] <jshmoe24> @Bloopletech
[06:28] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: ... hang on
[06:28] <Nomikos> hmw: *nods*. I'm starting to think it's taking more effort then it's worth by now :-)
[06:28] <hmw> Nomikos: you might be right, but I'd like to find out, what is going on.
[06:28] <quinnw> If I want to add a kernel parameter I do it on the hilighted line here, correct? http://pastebin.com/ixF7B0Yw
[06:29] <shifnix> bloopletech: yarr..i op in #xkcd-pub. i got quasi-permabanned from #xkcd :(
[06:29] <jshmoe24> i mean im trying to give you everything i can to help you but i need some help man :)
[06:29] <Aleiex> hi, I want some sound theme for ubuntu 10.04 and how to install im noob
[06:29] <jshmoe24> you offered so I accepted :)
[06:30] <jshmoe24> Just PM me
[06:30] <jshmoe24> @Bloopletech
[06:30] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: I don't pm
[06:30] <Datz> !seen suihkulokki
[06:30] <jshmoe24> ok nvm
[06:30] <pootietang> sup peeps!
[06:30] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: Looks like your computer will work fine, you need to get the nvidia propietry driver and install that, most other things should work
[06:30] <CYR4N0> I've been having this problem lately where my mouse and keyboard stop working and the mouse pointer gets stuck at a point on the screen and the mouse can move it at most a centimeter and it jumps back imediatly this happens once every couple of days and the keyboard seems to only respond with the NUM lock and caps lock lights but i can not revert back to TTY1/2/3 etc. and even if i unplug them (usb wireless) i can not plug in anoter as they still do the sa
[06:30] <CYR4N0> me with the mouse and keyboard
[06:30] <bloopletech> shifnix: heh :)
[06:30] <shifnix> bloopletech: so, does it looks like i may be SOL on OpenGL support?
[06:31] <jshmoe24> I dont have invidea
[06:31] <jshmoe24> on mine
[06:31] <bloopletech> shifnix: those issues are real strange considering that your card should be fairly well supported - try going to #radeon and asking there
[06:31] <bloopletech> shifnix: those guys are the experts ;)
[06:31] <jshmoe24> I dont' have nvidea hardware
[06:31] <shifnix> bloopletech: thanks
[06:32] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: ok then you should be fine. Does your computer work at the moment?
[06:32] <bloopletech> shifnix: np
[06:32] <jshmoe24> no it will not burn and keeps giving pop ups about libc6 dependecy problems
[06:33] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: ? libc6 problems should be unrelated to driver problems
[06:33] <jshmoe24> this is the driver i need a linux version for -->
[06:33] <jshmoe24> VGA Intel v7 14 10 1227
[06:33] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: if you's just reported these issues in the first plkace we would have been able to help a lot faster
[06:33] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: why do you think you need a driver for that? Is there something wring with your graphics?
[06:33] <jshmoe24> I did tho'
[06:34] <jshmoe24> I have been the whole time
[06:34] <jshmoe24> look in past posts
[06:34] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: ok I see now
[06:34] <jshmoe24> So maybe we need to fix some libc6 dependency problems first
[06:35] <jshmoe24> then the dvd drive will work too
[06:35] <jshmoe24> ya know
[06:35] <keevee09> What is the best method in Ubuntu 10.10 to produce .ai (>= ver9 of Adobe Illustrator)? I'll be creating images/logos with Inkscape but need to deliver .ai files. (Hello Community)
[06:35] <chd> has anyone seen "The social network"?
[06:35] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: how did you set this system up? Has this been a problem since you installed buuntu, or did it only start recently?
[06:35] <jshmoe24> only recently
[06:35] <jshmoe24> during bad apt-get command s
[06:35] <chd> that's kubuntu he's using isnt it?
[06:36] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: what were you trying to install?
[06:37] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: you still there?
[06:38] <jshmoe24> cant really remember but it was just updating one day and then now it says libc6 dependency error try apt-get install --f and that just fails
[06:38] <jshmoe24> @bloopletech
[06:38] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: first one thing
[06:39] <jshmoe24> whats up
[06:39] <jshmoe24> ?
[06:39] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: if you're directing your messages at someone in particular, can you just do "bloopletech: <blah>"
[06:39] <spinach> ping
[06:39] <jshmoe24> ok
[06:39] <bloopletech> rather than doing it over 2 lines, it'a bit distracting
[06:39] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: Can you pastie what happens when you try to do that apt-get thing?
[06:39] <bloopletech> spinach: PONG
[06:39] <jshmoe24> with  that previous format
[06:40] <jshmoe24> ok one sec
[06:40] <jshmoe24> debconf: DbDriver "config": could not open /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[06:40] <jshmoe24> dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory
[06:40] <jshmoe24> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[06:41] <bloopletech> hmmmmmmm
[06:41] <jshmoe24> "bloobletech:  <thats the output you wanted right ?>"
[06:41] <Avasz> hi, i installed mono in ubuntut to use dotnet. but i dont know how to use it
[06:42] <Avasz> how to start it?
[06:42] <hmw> Nomikos: did only scan that page, so not sure, if it will help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=977332 but looks promising...
[06:42] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: yeah, try running "sudo dpkg --clear-avail && sudo apt-get update"
[06:42] <bloopletech> Avasz: in the terminal, do mono <exe file>
[06:42] <jshmoe24> "bloopletech: <ok give me a sec and ill try it.>"
[06:43] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: you don't have to type the quote marks or angle rackets ;)
[06:43] <Avasz> bloopletech, so that means... i first of all script in text editor and run by mono <exe file> ?
[06:43] <bloopletech> Avasz: Oh
[06:43] <bloopletech> Avasz: one sec
[06:43] <jshmoe24> ok it went through and updated
[06:43] <Nomikos> hmw: yeah, that looks like it exactly
[06:43] <Avasz> bloopletech, ok
[06:43] <Nomikos> hmw: thanks!
[06:43] <hmw> yw
[06:44] <bloopletech> Avasz: take a look at http://monodevelop.com/, I think the main mono program only lets you run compiled programs, not develop/compile programs in .NET
[06:44] <Avasz> bloopletech, ok.
[06:44] <jshmoe24> but there is still a problem with the icon on the top bar saying libct6 error>
[06:44] <studentb> ping
[06:44] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: icon in the top bar?
[06:45] <jshmoe24> yea
[06:45] <jshmoe24> red x
[06:45] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: can you paste a screenshot?
[06:45] <jshmoe24> yes one sec
[06:46] <jshmoe24> how to paste?
[06:46] <jshmoe24> sorry newb to irc :)
[06:46] <jshmoe24> pic<> or something?
[06:46] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: use something like imageshack
[06:46] <rollman> up at top of irc is a link to paste
[06:46] <rww> !imagebin
[06:46] <jshmoe24> ok i got one
[06:47] <jshmoe24> yes imageshack works
[06:48] <jshmoe24> @bloopletech: <http://img64.imageshack.us/i/screenshotyrt.png/>"
[06:49] <jshmoe24> "@bloopletech: <Hope that helps>"
[06:49] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: right, ok, go back to the terminal and do "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[06:50] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: and if the output looks bad, pastie it
[06:50] <jshmoe24> ok it goes through now
[06:50] <jshmoe24> it goes staight through
[06:51] <jshmoe24> but I bet I will still have the libc6 dependency problem and the dvd drive problem
[06:51] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: ok, once that's finished, reboot, and then see if the libc6 problem is resolved
[06:51] <jshmoe24> "bloopletech: <but were on the right track for sure here>"
[06:51] <bloopletech> jshmoe24: yeah\
[06:53] <Nomikos> hmw: this works: "./testing.php < yadda &" where yadda is an empty file
[06:54] <glaceman> hey guys, i have an external usb cd-rom drive, not being recognized by ubuntu when i plug it, any ideas please ?
[06:54] <Hi-TechHate> Just wondering if anyone can help. Recently installed ubuntu 10.10 and everything was working fine for a couple days now it seems whenever i run more then one app or sometime just firefox it just freezes up and i have to reboot.... there a bug fix or a update im missing?
[06:55] <Nomikos> hmw: I don't know how I did not find anything on this issue while googling.. it's late, I guess
[06:55] <Nomikos> hmw: but thanks again for the link :)
[06:55] <smerz> Hi-TechHate, unlike that's it's an update. the updater notifies you if you got any left to install
[06:56] <aurilliance> I've just installed the scribes editor, but the sliding menu and status bars are really really laggy on my netbook. Any way to change the config and stop them sliding it?
[06:57] <Bluefever> Hey, I'm trying to diagnose whats going bad on my computer.
[06:58] <Bluefever> Sometimes when I turn it on no picture or sound will be sent to the monitor
[06:58] <Bluefever> I just replaced the power supply because I thought that was the problem at first.
[06:59] <shifnix> bloopletech: good news - it looks like OpenGL is working, and i was able to enable compositing, and now terminal appears to be artifact-free
[06:59] <smerz> does this issue happen before OS start Bluefever ?
[06:59] <Bluefever> Yes.
[06:59] <smerz> then it is ubuntu independent :)
[06:59] <smerz> but check cabling if you have not done that yet
[06:59] <bloopletech> shifnix: wow cool - what fixed it?
[06:59] <Bluefever> I made sure everything was tight
[06:59] <shifnix> bloopletech: i lied, terminal still artifacts with lots of text output :\
[07:00] <Bluefever> Well, it did this funny thing. I started it and right when the Ubuntu music plays at startup, the music kept looping at the end, and I couldn't move my mouse.
[07:01] <Bluefever> Or put any commands
[07:01] <bloopletech> anyway I've got to go do some work, I'll see you around
[07:02] <smerz> Bluefever, could  be a lot of things. But mostly hardware
[07:02] <smerz> issues that is
[07:02] <jshmoe24> @bloopletech: <this is what happened after the reboot "http://img26.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1ay.png/">"
[07:02] <Bluefever> You suppose something is failing @smerz
[07:02] <jshmoe24> "@bloopletech: what do ya think?
[07:03] <smerz> Bluefever, yeah
[07:03] <Bluefever> I thought it could be the CMOS battery, but the symptoms don't seem to fit.
[07:03] <smerz> check if your fans are okay
[07:03] <Bluefever> Fans are good.
[07:03] <smerz> see if any heat develops and maybe overheats cpu
[07:04] <smerz> try ram
[07:04] <smerz> diff. ram and or cpu
[07:04] <smerz> :(
[07:04] <jshmoe24> @bloopletech: <this is what happened after the reboot "http://img26.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1ay.png/">"
[07:04] <jshmoe24> "@bloopletech: what do ya think?
[07:04] <Bluefever> Ram can go bad @smerz
[07:04] <smerz> i haven't had it happen to me
[07:04] <Hi-TechHate> smerz: thanks checked the update manager and its up-to-date i guess i will just keep a eye on what im doing everytime the mouse freezes and it locks-up and see if i can get it worked out then. Forums seem to be filled with the same problem just no solution.
[07:05] <smerz> but yeah i think they can fail too :)
[07:05] <smerz> Hi-TechHate, try live cd. see if it happens in there
[07:05] <Bluefever> So I guess I'll try to narrow it down.
[07:05] <Bluefever> I know it isn't the power supply, because I just replaced that.
[07:06] <Bluefever> My motherboard has an integrated video card, so its either the motherboard, the hard drive, or the CMOS battery. Those are just my guesses.
[07:06] <peyton_westlake> Can anyone recommend a really good site to help me edit my xorg.conf with or without using randr?
[07:07] <peyton_westlake> I'd prefer to not use randr.
[07:07] <jshmoe24> @bloopletech: <this is what happened after the reboot "http://img26.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1ay.png/">"
[07:07] <jshmoe24> "@bloopletech: what do ya think?
[07:09] <Eagle> Hey all  :)
[07:09] <jshmoe24> "@bloopletech: <I tried what you said but still have problems have you seen the picture saying "you have two broken dependency on your system use the "broken" filter to locate them>"
[07:10] <sam-_-> peyton_westlake, why would you use randr to edit you xorg.conf??
[07:11] <jshmoe24> "<bloopletech: what do you think">
[07:11] <iRabbit_> s identify nick34
[07:11] <jshmoe24> I guess i could just go back to 10.04lts
[07:11] <syddraf> Is it possible to create a symlink to an sftp directory?
[07:11] <sam-_-> peyton_westlake, also what is wrong with: man xorg.conf    or do you have a specific question?
[07:12] <peyton_westlake> sam-_-: I'm not sure. With what searching I did, I came across a few different threads that recommended it when trying to set up video and display settings. I found that it didn't work so well for me.
[07:12] <jshmoe24> I think 10.04LTS is much more stable than 10.10 ever could be anyone agree?
[07:12] <sam-_-> peyton_westlake, maybe i'm missing sth. but what has randr to do with xorg.conf?
[07:13] <glaceman> external cd-rom drive not being recognized, any ideas please ?
[07:13] <sam-_-> jshmoe24, i guess it depends on the hardware.
[07:13] <spaceninja> flash cannot find my webcam, but it works with cheese, I've looked around for a solution, but I can't find on that works.
[07:13] <spaceninja> e
[07:13] <peyton_westlake> sam-_-: I wish I could tell you more. Maybe it was Xrandr that I was thinking of.
[07:13] <jshmoe24> "@bloopletech: <did you disapear>"
[07:13] <Eagle> Hi could someone assist me. Would ubuntu 10.10 work on a compact HP Pentium 4 with 2 by 256MB of ram? 20GB hard disk, for internet use only?
[07:13] <jshmoe24> I mean is there any help in the house
[07:13] <sam-_-> peyton_westlake, me too :-)
[07:14] <jshmoe24> I need an admin with some unix commandline  experience here folks
[07:14] <sam-_-> Eagle, it will. but you won't have much fun
[07:15] <mainusr> you need more ram, it will be slow
[07:15] <sam-_-> Eagle, there a "lighter" distributions based on ubuntu though like xubuntu or lubuntu
[07:16] <DannyButterman> Hi there. I'm trying to set up an Epson snapscan on a 10.10 box. I got the firmware and now have simple-scan and xsane running, but the scans are blank. I mean the device seems to scan, but the result is blank. Both with simple-scan and xsane. Any clue ?
[07:16] <mainusr> minimum of 500 mb of ram will give you a reasonable machine
[07:16] <Eagle> sam-_-:  Fun, Im having fun on my PC, This is just for someone else who wants to use it for web browseing only.
[07:16] <sam-_-> syddraf, one that is mounted via sshfs?
[07:17] <syddraf> Right now, I have nothing. But ill look into sshfs
[07:17] <Eagle> sam-_-: And he only wants ubuntu 10.10
[07:18] <sam-_-> Eagle, you can try it but it will very likely be a bit slow. browser tend to need a lot of ram these days.
[07:18] <opensauce> Could someone please help me fix my grub? This new grub is very confusing. Since updating recently my entry for my Windows has gone and I would like to put it back in the list....but do not know how to... the guides are not clear to me
[07:18] <sam-_-> Eagle, think >200mb
[07:18] <opensauce> My windows is on /dev/sda1
[07:19] <sneakyimp> Can someone help me with my Ubuntu/XP multi boot insta//
[07:19] <sam-_-> opensauce, ls /etc/grub.d/
[07:19] <Eagle> sam-_-: He's not the best on browsing, Just simple stuff. email  etc.
[07:19] <DannyButterman> anyone for my scanner problem ?
[07:19] <sam-_-> opensauce, is os_prober in there?
[07:20] <opensauce> sam-_- - yes it is 30_osprober
[07:20] <sam-_-> opensauce, try: sudo update-grub
[07:20] <sneakyimp> i have 4 partitions on a single hard drive, i want to put Ubuntu on the third
[07:20] <sam-_-> opensauce, is windows listed ?
[07:21] <opensauce> when you say listed?
[07:21] <opensauce> when I run the update?
[07:21] <opensauce> no.
[07:21] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: the installation process handles that very well don't worry
[07:22] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: I have already got 2 xp installs
[07:22] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: the basic tools don't cut it because they don't let me specify this third partition
[07:22] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: you have two instances of XP on the same hard drive ?
[07:22] <sam-_-> opensauce, hmm strange
[07:22] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: I'm trying to use the advanced partitioning tool and have a couple of questions
[07:23] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: I have a single hard drive with 4 partitions
[07:23] <peyton_westlake> sam-_- : This is the site I was found that had what looked like the details I needed to fix my resolution, but it didn'
[07:23] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: as far as I remember, you have to use the advanced partitionning system indeed
[07:23] <mister_m> is there like a graphical filebrowser application I can run if I am not using gnome as my desktop environment? I'm not great enough on the command line yet
[07:23] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: that seems clear so far
[07:24] <sam-_-> opensauce, ls -al /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
[07:24] <Blue1> mister_m: nautilus
[07:24] <sam-_-> opensauce, could you print the output?
[07:24] <peyton_westlake> this was the site that I found about (X)randr https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution/#Adding%20undetected%20resolutions
[07:24] <sneakyimp> dannybutterman: I see the target partition clearly displayed -- it's /deb/sdb6 (unknown)
[07:24] <mainusr> does anyone know if perfect ubuntu from catagory5 tv will run on a 64 bit multicore machine?
[07:24] <Blue1> mister_m: click on places, then try home folder
[07:24] <opensauce> http://pastebin.com/YSCy7J8H
[07:24] <opensauce> There is the file contents
[07:25] <sam-_-> peyton_westlake, yes but it will not be persistent.
[07:25] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: you don't need to do anything on your ms partitions in the partitionning tool. Just specify the different mountpoints for your ubuntu partition(s), or just one if you only need a root partition (/)
[07:25] <sam-_-> peyton_westlake, so you only have a resolution problem?
[07:25] <opensauce> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6933 2010-10-06 14:23 /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
[07:26] <sam-_-> opensauce, looks fine
[07:26] <mister_m> Blue1, cool I guess that could work alright if I need to go graphical with the file browsing (which I will). I'm testing out wmii atm
[07:26] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: just specify / as mountpoint for /dev/sdb6
[07:26] <Blue1> mister_m: not tried wmi
[07:26] <mister_m> Blue1, I'll have to set the desktop not to show though
[07:26] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman:  Yes I see pretty clearly how to chooose the right partition and set it up to be formatted ext4 with mount point "/" and this is all greek to me.  The remaining questions are: do i need a swap partition and where do i put the boot loader
[07:26] <peyton_westlake> sam-_- : Yes, a resolution problem. And now it seems that my graphics drivers aren't being recognized.
[07:26] <DannyButterman> and 1.5x your ram as swap space
[07:27] <mister_m> Blue1, I like it so far - it is different. I am waaaay used to the gnome environment though
[07:27] <mister_m> Blue1, so it is a big change going to a tiled WM
[07:27] <opensauce> :(
[07:27] <sam-_-> opensauce, post the output of "sudo /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober"
[07:27] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman:  I don't see any additional option to specify a swap partition...I have two remaining partitions but one of them is 60GB -- kind of large for a swap ;)
[07:28] <Blue1> mister_m: if you feel brave try this recipe:  http://pkill-9.com/?p=66
[07:28] <sam-_-> peyton_westlake, which graphicscard?
[07:28] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman:  Also, don't know what to select when it says "Device for boot loader installation"
[07:28] <opensauce> Sam - is that a command? it does nothing?
[07:28] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: yes you do need a swap partition (1.5x your ram amount). also put the bootloader at the start of your first bootable hdd, I guess /dev/sda
[07:28] <peyton_westlake> sam-_- : nvidia 7600gs
[07:28] <sam-_-> opensauce, i expected that
[07:28] <opensauce> ok
[07:29] <sladen> hello Nomikos
[07:29] <sam-_-> !nvidia | peyton_westlake
[07:29] <mister_m> Blue1, I think these tiled WMs are meant for super duper powerusers mostly
[07:29] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: device is probably /dev/sda though I dont know how what your disks are
[07:29] <al_nz1> I think I just killed my GDM desktop. After logging in i get black window/taskbar and clock. Pls HELP
[07:29] <sam-_-> opensauce, if it would work it would give you something back for the windows part.
[07:29] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman:  Hm.  I was hoping to get two unbuntu boots on here for dev purposes...one for 32-bit and one for 64-bit....if i use that last 60GB partition for swap, it's a total waste
[07:30] <opensauce> sam-_- : ok
[07:30] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: should I maybe boot up in Win XP one last time and re-arrange my partitions?
[07:30] <sam-_-> opensauce, i don't know why grub doesn't detect it anymore.
[07:30] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: the partition-editing tools in this install don't seem particuarly flexible
[07:30] <Blue1> al_nz1: can you get to a terminal?  ctrl+alt+f1
[07:30] <sam-_-> opensauce, you can add it manually though.
[07:30] <opensauce> would you mind helping me adding it?
[07:30] <al_nz1> Blue1: yes
[07:31] <Blue1> al_nz1: do you know how to restart the gdm?
[07:31] <sam-_-> opensauce, sure
[07:31] <al_nz1> no
[07:31] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: of course, you're right, you'll need to make another partition from the remaining hdd free space, but you'll have to specify say 1.5GB of swap, not 60
[07:31] <opensauce> Thank you!
[07:32] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: my computer has two hard drives in it -- both are 250GB.  All of the operating systems are on sdb. sda is a data drive at the moment
[07:32] <Blue1> al_nz1: login and then do the following
[07:32] <sam-_-> opensauce, it should look sth. like this: http://pastebin.com/06uuNgLH
[07:32] <Blue1> al_nz1: sudo service gdm restart
[07:32] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: you should be able to delete, and create partitions at least
[07:32] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: I know i can do this partitioning in XP with the disk management tool.  kind of surprised it's not offered here
[07:32] <Blue1> sneakyimp: that's how my folks machine is set up.
[07:33] <al_nz1> Blue1: ok done and it takes me back to the gui login window
[07:33] <al_nz1> showing me as logged in
[07:33] <sam-_-> opensauce, you need to set root and uuid according to your computer
[07:33] <Blue1> al_nz1: fine just login again.
[07:33] <al_nz1> but when I click on me login the screen goes black before taking me back to the login window again
[07:33] <al_nz1> its a loop!
[07:33] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: about the disk order, is the bios configured to boot on sda or sdb ?
[07:33] <peyton_westlake> sam-_- : Thanks! :-)
[07:34] <al_nz1> also whats different is the login window, not the background just the login window, is like windows classic grey, not full colored like it normally is
[07:34] <Blue1> al_nz1: ahh we'll have to do a bit more detective work -- what was the last thing you did before this problem occured?
[07:34] <opensauce> sam - can I just replace mine with this?
[07:34] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: I don't know ....let me check
[07:34] <al_nz1> Blue1: tyring to get mythtv to install :-(
[07:34] <sam-_-> opensauce, what do you want to replace?
[07:35] <Blue1> al_nz1: oh i can't help you there
[07:35] <opensauce> add then?
[07:35] <opensauce> I am not sure where in the file?
[07:35] <al_nz1> Blue1: what about del the file, is it , x11org.conf?
[07:35] <sam-_-> opensauce, not so fast. we need to set the correct values first.
[07:36] <sam-_-> opensauce, sudo parted -l    post the output to pastebin
[07:36] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman:  OK this is confusing.  The BIOs has the first drive as ch1 M.    : ST3250410AS
[07:36] <opensauce> sure one sec
[07:36] <Blue1> al_nz1: i wouldn't delete it, i'd rename it -- something like:  sudo mv x11org.conf x11org.conf.bkup
[07:36] <Blue1> oopsa
[07:36] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: and the second one says ch 0 M.     : ST3250410AS
[07:37] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: the drives are identical so i'm not sure which becomes sda and which becomes sdb
[07:37] <opensauce> http://pastebin.com/ZRnrkv1M
[07:37] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: also, i don't know for the most recent releases of ubuntu, but I'd always enjoy a partionning tool in previous versions.
[07:37] <Blue1> al_nz1: that should work
[07:37] <sam-_-> opensauce, also we need the output of: blkid
[07:37] <al_nz1> Blue1: where is x11org kept?
[07:37] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: it's the ch order that matters. So you're booting on ch 1 (sdb)
[07:37] <Blue1> al_nz1: this way you can see what's in the file, rather then just nuking it.
[07:37] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: i do know that sdb has the WinXP partitions on it...no idea where the MBR might be
[07:38] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: put it on /dev/sdb
[07:38] <sneakyimp> OK so CH0 always gets mapped to sda
[07:38] <al_nz1>  - /etc/ ?
[07:38] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: and CH1 always gets sdb?
[07:38] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: yes it does
[07:38] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: OK so To get Ubuntu working on here, I'd need a large partition formatted ext4 with mount point /
[07:39] <Filthy_MacNasty> anyone had any luck with the bttv driver on a hauppage card?
[07:39] <opensauce> http://pastebin.com/paY38khM
[07:39] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: and i would need a a small 3GB swap partition (mounted as /swap i guess)
[07:39] <al_nz1> Blue1: any idea where that file is?
[07:39] <Filthy_MacNasty> I use 20gb for the / and 2 for swap and the rest for /home
[07:39] <potat0> how would I configure DNS servers manually for a VPN?
[07:39] <potat0> openVPN is messing up the route table
[07:40] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: yes
[07:40] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: and ther are many options for the boot loader location...like various partitions, entire hard drives as options, and one option that lists windows
[07:40] <Filthy_MacNasty> with my scenario if you bugger the / you can reinstall and not format the /home
[07:40] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: i would like my boot menu to show both of my XP boots and also my ubuntu boot(s)
[07:40] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: do i want to choose the boot loader option that says "windows"  Is that the finicky Windows boot loader?
[07:40] <BlueFish_> anyone know a tool i could use to defrag my hard dive on ubuntu
[07:40] <Blue1> al_nz1: curse this new keyboard - its /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:41] <Filthy_MacNasty> fsck
[07:41] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: the boot system detects all the OSes and display them for booting don't worry
[07:41] <Blue1> BlueFish_: and why would you need to do that?
[07:41] <Filthy_MacNasty> BlueFish_ use fsck if you feel the need
[07:41] <Filthy_MacNasty> BlueFish_ this isnt your fathers ntfs
[07:41] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: so does it matter where I choose to put my boot loader?  I was under the impression that one must change the MBR ??
[07:41] <Blue1> BlueFish_: hint ext4 doesn't fragment like ntfs of fat does
[07:42] <BlueFish_> because i know that linux dont defrag like windows but whated to see if there was such a tool
[07:42] <sam-_-> opensauce, now put this http://pastebin.com/nPb37EWw
[07:42] <Filthy_MacNasty> put your boot loader in the xp drive and it will handle everything for you
[07:42] <sam-_-> opensauce, into /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[07:43] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: to avoid troubles, just put your bootloader on /dev/sdb. not /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdb6, but /dev/sdb
[07:43] <Blue1> BlueFish_: I am not aware of any defraggers that work reliably on ext4, but I could be wrong.
[07:43] <opensauce> one sec
[07:43] <Filthy_MacNasty> there is no need to defrag
[07:43] <Filthy_MacNasty> it just doesnt splatter things all over the drive
[07:44] <sam-_-> opensauce, 40_custom should then look like this http://pastebin.com/yRs7GwBH
[07:44] <opensauce> sam-_- = ok thanks - done... now reboot and see?
[07:44] <constantin_mike> hello
[07:44] <sam-_-> opensauce, no
[07:44] <Filthy_MacNasty> question: with grub2 how do you get that nifty menu that grub used to have?
[07:44] <opensauce> ok
[07:44] <sam-_-> opensauce, sudo update-grub, first
[07:44] <opensauce> update grub
[07:44] <opensauce> aha!
[07:44] <BlueFish_> fsck how do i run that without damaging the file system?
[07:45] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: thanks...booted into xp now and changing partitions
[07:45] <opensauce> ok I ran that
[07:45] <opensauce> now reboot?
[07:45] <al_nz1> well renameing xorg.conf didnt help!
[07:45] <sam-_-> opensauce, was it listed this time?
[07:45] <opensauce> nope
[07:45] <Blue1> BlueFish_: you are aware that fsck MUST be run an an unmounted hard drive, right?
[07:45] <opensauce> sam-_- = the same output as before
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> BlueFish_: i'd advise i
[07:45] <sam-_-> opensauce, could you pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> In a livecd
[07:46] <BlueFish_> kk
[07:46] <BlueFish_> thanks
[07:46] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: good luck ;) that shouldn't  be that hard
[07:46] <al_nz1> Blue1: tail var/log/messages?
[07:46] <Blue1> al_nz1: i have never seen mythtv so sorry I can't help
[07:47] <opensauce> ok  http://pastebin.com/w52ZuJbb
[07:47] <al_nz1> Blue1: I am not sure thats what killed it
[07:47] <Blue1> al_nz1: that would be a could place to start, or you can simply do dmesg
[07:47] <constantin_mike> i have a question: i have two users on my system:, mike and joe. i added both to the users group. i want one to be able to see files from the other's home directory. how do i do that?
[07:47] <DannyButterman> Anyone for my scanner problem ?
[07:47] <abhilash> change file permissions
[07:47] <DannyButterman> Epson 1670 ?
[07:47] <sam-_-> opensauce, wrong file :-)
[07:47] <sam-_-> opensauce, could you pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:48] <opensauce> sorry
[07:48] <Blue1> i am old school i stil use octal permission
[07:48] <constantin_mike> abhilash: i tried for mike, to do chown -R mike:users /home/mike, same for joe, then did sudo chmod -R ug+rwx /home/mike & same for /home/joe
[07:48] <constantin_mike> just won't work
[07:48] <opensauce> http://pastebin.com/XhjxCa2w
[07:48] <Blue1> constantin_mike: let me try to remember how I solved mine
[07:48] <Filthy_MacNasty> DannyButterman http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26911
[07:49] <cryptodira> when minimizing a window, it would go to the bottom panel as an icon... it no longer does that, how did i break that, and how do i fix it?
[07:49] <sam-_-> opensauce, looks good. now reboot and pray ;-)
[07:49] <speeqs> opensauce ur name made me lol
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> constantin_mike: make a new group, add both users to the group then make the group the groupowner of the folders both want access to
[07:49] <al_nz1> hey ActionParsnip
[07:49] <constantin_mike> ActionParsnip: how do i make the group, the groupowner of the folders?
[07:50] <constantin_mike> because i do have users, and mike & joe added to users
[07:50] <Blue1> constantin_mike: you are using xsane?
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> cryptodira: rightclick panel -> add item. Add the window list item
[07:50] <opensauce> thanks
[07:50] <opensauce> let me try quick .... brbr (hopefully)
[07:50] <speeqs> Hello, I´m pretty new to Linux so i was wondering if anybody could tell me where to go to get a solid understanding? Please and thank you!
[07:50] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: thanks for the tips, DB.  Are you *sure* i'll see all 3 of my OSes show up if i put boot loader on sdb?  installing those xp things was a chore...hundreds of security updates :(
[07:51] <constantin_mike> what would i use xsane for? i don't have a scanner
[07:51] <sam-_-> speeqs, help.ubuntu.com
[07:51] <Blue1> speeqs: what is your question?
[07:51] <Filthy_MacNasty> constantin_mike chmod -g mike /path/to/dir
[07:51] <Blue1> constantin_mike: my bad I thought you had scanner issues
[07:51] <foul_owl> anyone know why the mouse doesn't work with fpss like sauerbraten when I am running a multimonitor setup using xinerama? the mouse just gets stuck in a corner or edge
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> constantin_mike: chown -R :groupname /path/to/folder
[07:51] <cryptodira> ActionParsnip:  that did the trick!  Thank YOU.
[07:52] <speeqs> Thanks you!
[07:52] <quinnw> Why are the file permissions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Create%20Bootable%20USB%20Manually
[07:52] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: unless you accidentally wipe out your windows partitions, you can always modify your bootloader options. Don't worry if it doesn't work at first.
[07:52] <speeqs> and Blue i dont really have specific question, im just trying to get a firm understanding of Linux operating systems
[07:53] <Filthy_MacNasty> or you can go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod
[07:53] <Filthy_MacNasty> speeqs whatcha wanna do?
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> constantin_mike: without the colon, it sets the owner.
[07:53] <quinnw> different from these http://pastebin.com/LWdcLKVX
[07:53] <rumpe1> speeqs, how about browsing wikipedia? :)
[07:53] <Blue1> speeqs: a good book, might be linux in a nutshell let me see if I can find some good ref sites
[07:53] <quinnw> When it's a FAT32 filesystem?
[07:54] <Kazamar> !seen free psyBNC :(
[07:54] <constantin_mike> ActionParsnip: i know that, but i think the last time i tried it, i got an error. now it works, it's still processing
[07:54] <speeqs> Filthy_MacNasty: do as in?
[07:54] <Filthy_MacNasty> I learned from how to insertdesirehere in google
[07:55] <s1LkYsL1m> im running ./configure to begin installing program x with dependencies of program y; configure fails because program y is version 0.0 and it needs to be at least version 1.0 (or whatever) i installed program y 1.0 but configure gives same error.  anyone?
[07:55] <DannyButterman> Filthy_MacNasty: Thank for the link, but as I've said above, I already followed those steps. Scanimage -L tells me it sees the scanner. So far it's doesn't scan  (or outputs a picture for that matter)
[07:55] <Filthy_MacNasty> speeqs what would you like linux to do for you is what I mean
[07:55] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman:  but waaaah!  i'm scared.  Are you sure I shouldn't select "/dev/sdb1 Windows NT/2000/XP (loader)" ??
[07:55] <constantin_mike> ok, still won't work. now i'm trying sudo chmod -R ug+rwx /home/joe /home/mike, but i get an error about permission denied in /home/mike/.gvfs, cannot access
[07:55] <Filthy_MacNasty> put it on /dev/sdb
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> constantin_mike: if there is a lot of data, it will. You can use chmod to change the group access
[07:56] <Filthy_MacNasty> as I said
[07:56] <moses> how do i view my current hardware in ubuntu
[07:56] <Filthy_MacNasty> give joe the group ownership then chmod -g mike /path/to/dir
[07:56] <cafejunkie> I need some help with TFTP and PXE booting...
[07:56] <moses> i dont know what model my graphics card is exactly
[07:57] <Blue1> moses: hardware for?
[07:57] <moses> nvidia driver
[07:57] <rumpe1> moses, lspci , lsusb, lshw...
[07:57] <Blue1> moses: hang a sec
[07:57] <speeqs> Filthy_MacNasty: im not really sure :P as i said im new. One this i had in mind basicly is to be able to use commands fluently and have a good understanding of the directory stucture, honestly im not really sure what else linux is capable of
[07:57] <quinnw> I have followed those instructions to the letter and have been consistently unable to boot from my USB installer. The permissions might not be a clue, but either way this has gotten old.
[07:57] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: Fell free to select this option, but I think its meaning is 'do you want to access the windows bootloader after the ubuntu bootloader'
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> constantin_mike: that's because you aren't running the command right. You should NOT do all of the home too, it may cause issues
[07:57] <foul_owl> anyone know why the mouse doesn't work with fpss like sauerbraten when I am running a multimonitor setup using xinerama? the mouse just gets stuck in a corner or edge
[07:57] <Filthy_MacNasty> speeqs grab me in chat
[07:58] <Blue1> moses: this should tell you what you need i think:  grep -i glx /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:58] <cafejunkie> I have DHCP running successfully, and tested TFTP locally. I created the /tftpboot directory, I have pxelinux.0 and other files in there. When I boot the client computer it pulls an address from DHCP okay but then I get a "TFTP open timeout" error
[07:58] <cafejunkie> I'm stumped
[07:58] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman:  ok boss.  i'm going to choose instead "/dev/sdb ATA ST3250410AS (250.1 GB)"
[07:58] <moses> Blue1, huh?
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> constantin_mike: read the first command i gave then look at what you ran. They are massively different
[07:59] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman:  again, the hope is that I'll see all 3 of my OSes (and possibly a fourth to come) from a single boot menu
[07:59] <Blue1> moses: i thought you need information on your nividia driver.  maybe I mis-understood?
[07:59] <moses> i did
[07:59] <moses> but i need to install the driver
[07:59] <Blue1> moses: ahh you didn't say that.
[07:59] <moses> im sorry
[07:59] <quinnw> moses: Then go to Nvidia's site.
[07:59] <quinnw> moses: They have a universal driver :)
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia
[08:00] <Blue1> moses: System/Administration/Additional Drivers
[08:00] <mfaroukg> i am facing a problem with my webcam, it is very slow with Cheese or the google chat on the web and i tried other cams also specially after the last kernel update? how can i fix it ?
[08:00] <moses> ok ultra noob question
[08:00] <quinnw> Or use a distro specific solution and learn nothing :/ Whatever floats your boat.
[08:00] <moses> how do i pop open a console?
[08:01] <Blue1> mfaroukg: backport?
[08:01] <Blue1> moses: alt+f2
[08:01] <ZykoticK9> moses, ctrl+alt+t might work
[08:01] <mfaroukg> Blue1: what is that?
[08:01] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: what you're hoping for is standard bootloader behaviour
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> constantin_mike: /home/joe isn't a group, its a folder
[08:02] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman:  I'll have to take your word for it. Very new to multi-boot installations
[08:02] <Blue1> mfaroukg: i had issues with my lan card, and backporting fixed it -- let me see if I can dig up the orig article
[08:02] <moses> should i get used to this or can i get a full on console window?
[08:02] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman:  tried using grub once before and got lost
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> constantin_mike: if you only use parts of advice you will break your OS
[08:02] <mfaroukg> Blue1: good, because i have also a problem with other hardware too
[08:02] <Blue1> mfaroukg: give this a glance:  http://pkill-9.com/?p=152
[08:03] <quinnw> moses: That IS a full on console. What's your question?
[08:04] <constantin_mike> ActionParsnip: sorry, i was away from my computer for a few minutes. i know that /home/mike is a folder, and i did use your command sudo chown -R :users /home/mike
[08:04] <Blue1> mfaroukg: what version of linux are you running?
[08:04] <Blue1> mfaroukg: cat /etc/issue
[08:04] <moses> i love this OS
[08:04] <sneakyimp> wow, the Ubuntu installer looks really sharp. Very handsome design.
[08:04] <moses> omg!
[08:04] <constantin_mike> ActionParsnip: but after that, it still didn't work
[08:04] <mevkurray> moses: you mean something that looks like ctrl alt f1??
[08:05] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: I had bad experiences before, but it was eons ago. Now linux and ubuntu are much more reliables.
[08:05] <mevkurray> i.e login console?
[08:05] <mfaroukg> Blue1: Ubuntu 10.10 \n \l
[08:05] <quinnw> constantin_mike: That's probabsy because users is the wrong group.
[08:05] <moses> yes
[08:05] <moses> how do i get out of this?
[08:05] <mevkurray> ctrl alt f7
[08:05] <Blue1> mfaroukg: one last question, 32 bit or 64?
[08:05] <mevkurray> normally
[08:05] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman:  I'll be happy as long as I don't have to go looking for a lost boot record
[08:05] <moses> ty
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> constantin_mike: i advise you only run it on user data folders like Music or Pictures
[08:05] <mfaroukg> Blue1: 32 bit
[08:06] <constantin_mike> ActionParsnip: ok, will try
[08:06] <quinnw> constantin_mike: And users is the wrong group.
[08:06] <Blue1> mfaroukg: it's worth trying the backports.  if it doesn't work, then there are directions on how to remove the backports
[08:06] <sneakyimp> Does anyone have an opinion on 64-bit ubuntu?
[08:06] <Blue1> sneakyimp: i use it
[08:06] <constantin_mike> quinnw: i did add mike & joe into users myself
[08:06] <sneakyimp> I was very much hoping to use it as a development platform for a php extension
[08:06] <quinnw> constantin_mike: Mk
[08:06] <sneakyimp> Blue1: so you are running 64-bit?  any issues?
[08:06] <constantin_mike> quinnw: what is Mk ?
[08:07] <sneakyimp> Blue1:  just want to run a basic LAMP server
[08:07] <quinnw> sneakyimp: Ubuntu k64 is fine.
[08:07] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: feel the Force. Don't let yourself succumb to fear ;)
[08:07] <Blue1> sneakyimp: only issue is 64 bit firefox crashes my system (worked fine in 10.04 but not 10.10) not a flash issue.  I have an amd system - ymmv
[08:07] <quinnw> constantin_mike: mx="M-kay" or Ok. Haha.
[08:07] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman:  i d-d-d-d-d-d-unno man.  Somebody better be ready to call the Waaaaaaahmbulance if this doesn't work
[08:08] <constantin_mike> quinnw: lol ...
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> constantin_mike: they are already a member of users when made as far as i know
[08:08] <sneakyimp> Blue1: hm. ever try chrome?
[08:08] <Blue1> sneakyimp: but it runs all my servers and desktop envir too.  chrome and opera work fine.  just no firefox joy
[08:08] <sacarlson> sneakyimp: only problem I see for you is if you use somethingk like firewatir to test with,  I had problems seting it up with the 32bit libs in 64bit, as just a server I guess it should be fine
[08:09] <quinnw> Is my question too noob-ish or does no one know?
[08:09] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: you don't lose anything unless you format your ms partition. Be a man, go ahead ! ;)
[08:09] <sneakyimp> Blue1: that'll work. I want to write some PHP extensions (AMFEXT)
[08:09] <constantin_mike> ActionParsnip: ok, i tried for only one folder (i.e. Desktop) and it works
[08:09] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman:  it's running.  I crossed myself a few times first.
[08:09] <Blue1> sacarlson: i run the 32 bit version of lightscribe w/o problems however force the archetecture can break a system
[08:10] <sneakyimp> sacarlson:  i'll be doing most work for AMFEXT in 32-bit environment
[08:10] <Blue1> sneakyimp: i don't have php on my system, but I've heard ofno problems with that.
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> constantin_mike: good times :-)
[08:10] <sneakyimp> sacarlson:  i just want to test the results on a 64-bit machine
[08:10] <Valen> trying to install 10.10 from livecd, usb-creator silently ignores the amd64 ISO when I tell it to open it, the ISO seems fine md5sum matches and I've extracted everything from it
[08:10] <constantin_mike> ActionParsnip: (& others): thanks
[08:10] <Blue1> sneakyimp: work a try --
[08:10] <Valen> usb-creator.exe coming off the livecd and running in windows xp
[08:10] <Valen> any ideas?
[08:10] <quinnw> sneakyimp: PHP will run the same way on either Arch won't it?
[08:11] <Valen> I tried unetbootn and it kinda worked except for the actuall booting part
[08:11] <Valen> it just gets stuck loading some USB stuff
[08:11] <Blue1> quinnw: it should, but honestly, I don't know
[08:11] <quinnw> sneakyimp: Ah.
[08:11] <Valen> any suggestions?
[08:11] <quinnw> Valen: How long did you wait?
[08:11] <Valen> 20 + minutes so far
[08:11] <moses> i downloaded the .run file from nvidia how do install this via console?
[08:11] <sacarlson> sneakyimp: with 64bit running you can always run a 32bit version in virtualbox to try things you might need,  in 32bit I don't think you can simulate 64bit in virtualbox
[08:12] <Blue1> yeah that's a faily time consuming procedure I know when I did mine, it took like 40 minutes
[08:12] <Valen> turned silent and quiet off to see it actually boot but it pauses
[08:12] <quinnw> moses: Type ./nvidia
[08:12] <Valen> 40 minutes to boot?
[08:12] <Blue1> sneakyimp: what sacarlson said
[08:12] <sneakyimp> quinnw: my C chops are really rusty and there was some code in there that had to do with reversing byte-order for network transmission...i just want to make sure my stuff works on both architectures
[08:12] <moses> nothing?
[08:12] <Blue1> Valen: 40 minutes to put the iso onto the usb flash drive
[08:12] <Valen> the little flashy light on the usb doohickey isnt flashing either
[08:12] <quinnw> moses: Where nvidia is what the file you downloaded is called
[08:12] <Valen> thats not the problem
[08:13] <Valen> usb-creator won't "open" the iso
[08:13] <sneakyimp> sacarlson: thanks for the tip...any more info on 'virtualbox' ?
[08:13] <Valen> i pick it and it ignores it
[08:13] <Valen> does nothing
[08:13] <Blue1> sneakyimp: bump the video to at least 64m
[08:14] <Valen> unetbootin at least loads the iso
[08:14] <Valen> but the usb key wont boot
[08:14] <quinnw> I hate the usb-creator.
[08:14] <Valen> well wont complete booting anyway
[08:14] <Blue1> Valen: i will have to play with usb creater someday in win xp (in a virtual box)
[08:14] <sacarlson> !virtualbox | sneakyimp
[08:14] <Valen> normally I would run it from linux, where usually it fails to actually write to the usb key
[08:14] <Blue1> okay my buttocks are sore, and I am brain dead.  (zombie mode) -- going to say good night folks
[08:15] <quinnw> If it was multi-platform or even available for other Linux systems it would actually be worth the time spent writing it.
[08:15] <Valen> if it worked ok in ubuntu it would be worth it
[08:15] <chalcedony> does anyone remember or know how to stack the similar objects in taskbar? i have it in my old ubuntu 9.04 but now i have 10.04 and need it?
[08:16] <Valen> it seems to suck in a cross platform manner
[08:16] <mfaroukg> Blue1: what is that backport? it doesn't get installed
[08:16] <quinnw> Valen: It works in Ubuntu.
[08:16] <Valen> most of the time when I try and use it in ubuntu it fails to actually write to the stick
[08:17] <Valen> or gets halfway through then fails
[08:17] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: great success!
[08:17] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: thanks for your guidance.
[08:17] <quinnw> Valen: I'm having an issue with making a bootable USB installer. That doesn't mean the steps I'm following "don't work"
[08:17] <sacarlson> sneakyimp: I think there are still problems in some cases with adobe flash in 64bit,  I also had problems with skype, canon printer drivers, watir, jackd and a few other things but with a php server developer I don't see that as a problem for you.
[08:18] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: you're welcome ;)
[08:18] <quinnw> sacarlson: Flash x64 works fine for me now. I don't know which update fixed my problems though.
[08:18] <sneakyimp> sacarlson:  Thanks for the info.  I would be tempted to just sit at the ubuntu box and do everything there (i love nano text editing) so it's good to have the tips
[08:20] <sgt> hello out there im new to di can anybody give some pointers on this
[08:21] <chalcedony> sgt, di?
[08:21] <sgt> dis*
[08:21] <Filthy_MacNasty> disgruntled? disinterested?
[08:21] <Valen> quinnw,I didn't say whatever you were doing "don't work" I said that usb-creator fails 80% of the time for me under ubuntu
[08:21] <Valen> and thus far 100% of the time under windows
[08:22] <Bushman> i have a bluetooth mouse and since i've started to use it the bluetooth dongle dies on me every few seconds/minutes taking the mouse down on the way. here's the last few lines of dmesg: http://bushman.pastebin.com/uQh5nN1q Anyone?
[08:22] <mfaroukg> i am facing a problem with my webcam, it is very slow with Cheese or the google chat on the web and i tried other cams also specially after the last kernel update? how can i fix it ?
[08:24] <Cairo> where are nvidia driver installation logs stored?
[08:24] <Cairo> i forgot xD
[08:24] <Valen> I wish they distributed usb images along with the regular iso's
[08:24] <hiexpo> hi all hey need a little help partioning my drive
[08:24] <Valen> this whole mangle the iso into the usb disk thing sucks
[08:25] <Filthy_MacNasty> Valen you could do that for the rest of us
[08:25] <sacarlson> Cairo: you want to see when they were installed?  maybe look in apt-get or dpkg logs?
[08:25] <Cairo> not when
[08:25] <Cairo> i had an installation error and i want to find the log
[08:25] <Cairo> i just forgot where it said it was
[08:26] <Filthy_MacNasty> hiexpo what kind of help?
[08:26] <hiexpo> right now my drive has an ext 4 partion and swap and 4 gig unused space how do i put that unused space back in
[08:26] <geirha> Cairo: Should be in /var/log/ somewhere, but I don't remember the name, maybe install.log ?
[08:26] <sam-_-> Cairo, /var/log/dpkg.log
[08:27] <Valen> hiexpo, boot live cd
[08:27] <Cairo> ok
[08:27] <AnthLee> hiexpo, use gparted and resize the partition
[08:27] <Valen> delete swap
[08:27] <Valen> create new swap at end of space
[08:27] <hiexpo> ok
[08:27] <Dice-Man> damit
[08:27] <Valen> expand existing partition to fill the space
[08:27] <Valen> (all with gparted)
[08:27] <Dice-Man> i created my swap partition a the begining
[08:27] <Valen> then edit fstab to reflect new uuid
[08:27] <Valen> where is the extra space then?
[08:28] <sneakyimp> ok so i have ubuntu installed, i created an account name for myself, but i cannot do 'su' to become root
[08:28] <Valen> so has anybody had a "really good, just worked" experience with usb-creator?
[08:28] <Filthy_MacNasty> sudo su
[08:29] <hiexpo> i tryed to resize the swap was 5 gigs and shrank it to 1 and now it says unused space
[08:29] <AnthLee> Valen, usually works for me
[08:29] <mfaroukg>  is there a program could be used to dial numbers?
[08:29] <Cairo> well im getting this error
[08:29] <Cairo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/555338/
[08:29] <Filthy_MacNasty> !works for me
[08:29] <sneakyimp> Filthy_MacNasty: THANKS
[08:29] <iDespera1O> hi there, I want to know how to append(not replace) crontab when using crontab file....
[08:29] <Filthy_MacNasty> welcome
[08:29] <AnthLee> he asked O.O
[08:29] <Cairo> im trying to install my driver from tty1 because it doesnt show up in Additional Drivers in ubuntu10.10
[08:30] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: or sudo -i
[08:30] <Filthy_MacNasty> probably because its included in 10.10
[08:30] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: it looks amazing
[08:30] <Irulan> Hello
[08:30] <Filthy_MacNasty> !hi
[08:30] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: i'm amazed.
[08:31] <Cairo> !hi
[08:31] <Filthy_MacNasty> someone made shiny?
[08:31] <Irulan> I got a problem with ubuntu 10.10: my /tmp isn't cleaned at boot time
[08:31] <Filthy_MacNasty> should be cleared at shutdown actually and hurm
[08:32] <Valen> hiexpo, do you have a swap file or a swap partition?
[08:32] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: What is so amazing ? Aren't you used to the pure beauty Ubuntu is ?
[08:32] <Valen> I'm guessing partition
[08:32] <Valen> how big is the rest of the drive?
[08:32] <Filthy_MacNasty> my bet is file wubi style
[08:32] <hiexpo> Valen, yes is 1 gig
[08:32] <Valen> how big is the ext4 partition
[08:33] <sam-_-> Cairo, can we see the nvidia log?
[08:33] <Irulan> the /etc/init/mounted-tmp.conf is configured with "start on mounted MOUNTPOINT=/tmp"
[08:33] <sgt> yoo anybody can tell me how to install more effects
[08:33] <hiexpo> Valen, 143 gigs
[08:33] <Valen> if the swap is at the start the only way to grow it is to move the partition to the start of the free space, and that could take *forever*
[08:33] <Cairo> i posted it
[08:33] <sam-_-> Cairo, also did you run it with sudo?
[08:33] <Cairo> or did you mean a different log?
[08:33] <Cairo> ya i ran it with sudo
[08:33] <sam-_-> Cairo, are your kernel headers installed?
[08:33] <Valen> clonezilla and unetbootin worked
[08:34] <Valen> just not ubuntu
[08:34] <Cairo> i think so
[08:34] <Cairo> how do i check?
[08:34]  * Valen is not feeling the love
[08:34]  * Cairo loves Valen
[08:34] <Filthy_MacNasty> sgt sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager then look under preferences
[08:34] <mail> guys what is this new dock i keep seeing in ubuntu shots
[08:34] <Valen> Cairo, if your love came in the form of a working USB key with 10.10 on it and was in my pocket right now I'd considder letting you get away with it
[08:35] <Cairo> oh
[08:35] <Cairo> :(
[08:35] <Filthy_MacNasty> unrequited love
[08:35] <mail> http://www.neowin.net/forum/uploads/monthly_01_2011/post-183474-0-11198400-1295188663.png
[08:35] <mail> the dock in that SS
[08:35] <Valen> though if your a hot chick I'd let you get away with it anyway, your not a "hot chick" by any chance are you?
[08:36] <Filthy_MacNasty> say #ubuntu?!?
[08:36] <hiexpo> Valen, what if i delete the others and start over
[08:36] <sam-_-> Cairo, dpkg -l linux-header-`uname -r`
[08:36] <Valen> hiexpo, might be best if you fired up gparted, opened the disk your talking about and took a screen shot, post it on one of the image paste bin things
[08:36] <Cairo> No packages found matching linux-header-2.6.35-23-generic.
[08:36] <Cairo> is that the latest?
[08:37] <hiexpo> Valen, ok
[08:37] <sam-_-> Cairo, no. it seems you don't have the latest kernel installed but that shouldn't matter
[08:37] <Cairo> ok
[08:37] <sam-_-> !nvidia | Cairo
[08:37] <Filthy_MacNasty> sudo apt-get install linux=header='uname -r'
[08:38] <sam-_-> Filthy_MacNasty, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:38] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: this is totally new for me. I'm going to have to figure out how to develop on it natively.  I'm the new maintainer for the PECL extension AMFEXT
[08:38] <sgt> how do u noe if i have da latest kernel
[08:38] <chalcedony> I AM DESPERATE i have windows open and can't find anything, the doggone task bar tabs are all single. How can i make it 'stack' them?
[08:38] <sgt> ??
[08:39] <Valen> heh I think I'm going to love clonezilla
[08:39] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman:  I'm thinking Eclipse for PHP with SVN...i've got a lot to learn
[08:39] <szpreader> hello, being a newbie, I'm wondering what can I set deluge to start @ startup?
[08:40] <chalcedony> please?
[08:40] <chalcedony> google isn't finding it for me.
[08:40] <Cairo> #windows
[08:40] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: great. I'm a php developer too. I also use eclipse with svn for my php projects
[08:40] <sam-_-> sneakyimp, amf = action message format?
[08:41] <Irulan> szpreader: System > Preferences > Startup Applications ?
[08:41] <szpreader> yes, but what should I write there?
[08:41] <Filthy_MacNasty> ompaul by any other name
[08:41] <sneakyimp> sam-_-: yes
[08:42] <szpreader> I took to command, I added "&" and it won't start
[08:42] <speeqs>  /j #hack
[08:42] <Valen> whats the nvidia problem somebody is ah
[08:42] <Irulan> don't add &
[08:42] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: I'm really rusty at the C code stuff. It's been hard getting back on the horse
[08:42] <Valen> having?
[08:42] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: you've really helped
[08:42] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: thanks so much
[08:43] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: you're welcome, I try to help as much as I seek help too - the community you know ;)
[08:44] <sneakyimp> DannyButterman: you've done me right.  Have a good nite.
[08:44] <YankDownUnder> Anyone know if XFCE 4.8 has made it into the repos yet?
[08:44] <DannyButterman> sneakyimp: it's 9:40 here in France ;)
[08:45] <Irulan> szpreader: "deluge-gtk" should work
[08:45] <hiexpo> Valen, http://tinypic.com/r/2ro2sfl/7
[08:46] <chalcedony> does anyone know what i'm talking about - items in the task bar - that i need to have 'stack' instead of being single?
[08:46] <YankDownUnder> chalcedony, Um...are you asking WHAT to stack, or HOW to stack?
[08:47] <chalcedony> YankDownUnder, how
[08:47] <chalcedony> in my 9.04 i had it, but now i have 10.04 and i have a zillion tiny icons and can't see them
[08:47] <YankDownUnder> chalcedony, I use Cairo-dock, so it's part of that - and all my task management is done via Cairo-dock => WITH the MacOSX theme (and it's settings)
[08:48] <chalcedony> i don't know what that is YankDownUnder .. looking
[08:48] <Irulan> chalcedony: right-click on task bar, click on preferences, choose to stack
[08:48] <chalcedony> Irulan, THANKS
[08:48] <YankDownUnder> chalcedony, you can check it out at: http://glx-dock.org
[08:49] <chalcedony> Irulan, i have minimize, maximize, always on top.. i don't see stack ..
[08:50] <osmosis_paul> good morning just one question\
[08:50] <hiexpo> Valen, you still there
[08:51] <osmosis_paul> somebody know how can i change the user/password of my current mysql configuration
[08:52] <Valen> osmosis_paul, update mysql.user set foo=bar where username = whatsit; is the hardcore way
[08:52] <Zeu5> hi there, i have installed a ubuntu server on amazon web services ec2 successfully
[08:52] <Zeu5> i need to add another user account called deploy
[08:52] <Valen> otherwise google, mysql grant
[08:52] <Zeu5> i used this sudo useradd -d /home/deploy -m deploy
[08:52] <Zeu5> and then i copied the .ssh folder over
[08:53] <Zeu5> i can login but i do not see deploy@ip-123-123-123-12 as the command shell
[08:53] <Zeu5> when i do ssh
[08:53] <Zeu5> please advise.
[08:53] <osmosis_paul> Valen, but where can i specify the password?
[08:54] <sam-_-> Zeu5, a whoami will tell you who u are
[08:54] <mfaroukg1> how can i use the fax modem to dial a number and talk through the speaker and the mic?
[08:55] <sam-_-> !ot | mfaroukg1
[08:55] <Valen> osmosis_paul,look at the mysql grant options
[08:55] <Zeu5> sam-_-, that is not the point. my command shell starts with a $ sign instead of my username. please advise
[08:55] <coldfront> you need a voice modem for that mfaroukg1
[08:55] <sam-_-> Zeu5, then adjust your .bashrc
[08:55] <osmosis_paul> Valen, sorry mate where is that
[08:55] <Zeu5> sam-_- how do i do that?
[08:56] <sam-_-> Zeu5, try this: PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$ '
[08:56] <mfaroukg1> coldfront: i can use the fax modem through dialer.exe in the windows xp
[08:57] <coldfront> you might be able to use/see it in dialer.exe but you wont be able to talk without it support voice
[08:58] <mfaroukg1> coldfront: how can i dial a number with the fax modem ?
[08:59] <sam-_-> Zeu5, echo "PS1='$\{debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)\}\u@\h:\w\$ '"  >> .bashrc
[08:59] <sam-_-> Zeu5, to make it permanent
[08:59] <Gnea> hmm
[08:59] <Zeu5> sam-_-, thanks. i will try. first i am going to restart the server
[08:59] <coldfront> a modem can still dial but without the support of voice protocol in the modem it wont work
[09:00] <coldfront> you can use it to send faxes but if it doesnt support the voice protocol on the hardware then you cant talk with it
[09:00] <sam-_-> Zeu5, works only for bash but i do think you use that
[09:01] <Gnea> I've been using Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.04 for quite awhile, and recently I find that I can't connect to wireless networks anymore using wicd.  I noticed that NetworkManager has been running, so I stopped that service, but it didn't do any good. The only way I can get online now is via windows. I've gone through the wifi docs and nothing, the forums don't seem to have this either... the ssid gets set, but dhclient never gets an ip, but it should, what gives?
[09:02] <dan88> gnea: try nm-applet in the terminal
[09:02] <Gnea> dan88: perhaps you didn't read what I said... please read it again.
[09:02] <mfaroukg1> coldfront: good, so let me show you output from the scanModem
[09:02] <hiexpo> Valen, ok i deleted all partions so what do i do first
[09:02] <Gnea> dan88: I had to remove networkmanager-gtk as well
[09:03] <Gnea> it was conflicting with wicd, and I prefer wicd because it normally does a better job at connecting and retaining a connection
[09:03] <sam-_-> Gnea, do it step be step. without wicd. first wpasupplicant then dhclient
[09:03] <mfaroukg1> coldfront: http://pastebin.com/H2WKeRDS
[09:03] <coldfront> mfaroukg1 http://www.modemsite.com/56k/voice.asp
[09:04] <Gnea> sam-_-: okay, it's been awhile since I did it on the commandline. basically, set the ssid with iwconfig, then run dhclient? I'm just trying to connect to an unsecured AP at this point.
[09:04] <sam-_-> Gnea, ok then this should do it i guess.
[09:04] <Gnea> sam-_-: thanks, I'll give it a shot
[09:05] <Irulan> chalcedony: http://i.imagefra.me/a4chyq4a
[09:05] <diddy> If dir thedir  has ownership fred:vboxuser and permissins 770 then why can user dude not cd into that dir if he is in group vboxusers?
[09:06] <sam-_-> diddy, s/vboxuser/vboxusers/
[09:06] <its-me-again> hi si this bug known in ubuntu many multi 5in1 readers aren't supported
[09:06] <syddraf> Is there a way to change the <Super> key from a modifier to an actual key for keybindings?
[09:06] <diddy> sam-_-, what?
[09:07] <sam-_-> diddy, vboxuser != vboxusers
[09:07] <sam-_-> diddy, look at the end :-)
[09:07] <hiexpo> well if anyone finishes helping me i might get ubuntu back installed again
[09:07] <its-me-again> sam the coirect syntax to corect mistakes in irc is *vboxusers
[09:08] <sam-_-> its-me-again, says who?
[09:08] <chalcedony> Irulan, thank you .. i'm trying to figure out how you got that window
[09:08] <diddy> Ahh I see. Sorry. Typo. Here we go: If dir thedir  has ownership fred:vboxusers and permissions 770 then why can user dude not cd into that dir if he is in group vboxusers?
[09:08] <its-me-again> my 20 years on adn off of irc usage.    thats how i see many peopel corect mistakes
[09:09] <its-me-again> its the common way.
[09:09] <sam-_-> its-me-again, i think it just has to be understandable that's all.
[09:09] <its-me-again> sam just for your infomation infuture helping.
[09:09] <sam-_-> its-me-again, y. thx for that ;-)
[09:10] <sam-_-> diddy, did you get what i was trying to tell you?
[09:10] <Irulan> chalcedony: you have to click in the 'windows list applet' zone, not anywhere in the task bar
[09:10] <diddy> sam-_-, yes
[09:10] <hiexpo> ok i have deleted all partitions with gparted need helping reinstalling partitions now
[09:11] <sam-_-> diddy, so... did it help?
[09:11] <diddy> sam-_-, no
[09:11] <diddy> sam-_-, permission denied
[09:11] <feanor> hiexpo, did you deleted neeeded, importantpartitions?
[09:11] <sam-_-> diddy, did you just add him/her to the group?
[09:12] <hiexpo> feanor, i got rid of them all to start over
[09:12] <diddy> sam-_-, yes
[09:12] <sam-_-> diddy, you have to log out then log in again for it to work
[09:12] <diddy> sam-_-, out of the gui?
[09:12] <its-me-again> hi is this bug in ubuntu 10.10 with many multi 5in1 card readers.
[09:12] <sam-_-> diddy, yes, unfortunately
[09:13] <sam-_-> diddy, because gnome-session launches the terminal and it still is in the old environment
[09:14] <hiexpo> feanor, now i need to reinstall partions but dont know how to first
[09:14] <DND> guys. shall i do the normal ubuntu installation when i want it to install it to USB?
[09:15] <DND> and i want to plug that USB on various computers and boot it
[09:15] <its-me-again> DND: what do you mean exactly
[09:15] <its-me-again> there is a usb instller built into the ubuntu cd
[09:15] <its-me-again> you boot the live cd adn run that to install it to usb
[09:16] <Gnea> sam-_-: it worked :
[09:16] <Gnea> :D
[09:16] <its-me-again> DND: hopefully you et that
[09:16] <its-me-again> * get
[09:16] <sam-_-> Gnea, what again? i forgot ;-)
[09:16] <Gnea> sam-_-: lol, I was able to connect to wifi
[09:16] <diddy> sam-_-, thx
[09:16] <DND> its-me-again but can i plug that usb on another computer and it will boot normally?
[09:16] <sam-_-> Gnea, ah ok.
[09:17] <DND> its a usb stick not external hard drive
[09:17] <Gnea> the only issue now is that it's not catching an ipv6 address
[09:17] <ashish> hi
[09:17] <its-me-again> DND: you need to set the bios to boot from usb if thecomputer can do it.   older computers cant boot from usb
[09:17] <sam-_-> Gnea, in my defense. i'm really tired :-(
[09:17] <its-me-again> but most newer ones can
[09:17] <Gnea> sam-_-: it's all good, I can live with ipv4-only for the time being
[09:17] <Gnea> sam-_-: I'm tired as well, but I needed to get on to check email, etc
[09:18] <sam-_-> Gnea, does your provider give you some ipv6 addresses?
[09:18] <ashish> my right click not work
[09:18] <ashish> any one plz help
[09:18] <sam-_-> ashish, start: xev
[09:18] <Gnea> sam-_-: it did in windows, and I've been used to having ipv6 auto-assigned for the past year or so
[09:19] <sam-_-> ashish, you can test there if the button works
[09:19] <Gnea> sam-_-: ipv6 has been mostly rolled out around here
[09:19] <dzderic> Guys, I really need some help
[09:19] <its-me-again> dzderic: ask you question to get help.
[09:19] <dzderic> I accidently dd'd the first 500MB of my drive instead of my USB
[09:19] <Gnea> dzderic: sorry, can't help until we know what the problem is
[09:19] <sam-_-> Gnea, where are you? which provider?
[09:19] <Gnea> dzderic: testdisk
[09:19] <dzderic> gparted tells me there's only 1 big partition
[09:20] <Gnea> sam-_-: central Iowa
[09:20] <its-me-again> dzderic: what is dd'd
[09:20] <sam-_-> Gnea, so no teredro? the real deal?
[09:20] <Gnea> sam-_-: it's a local hole-in-the-wall
[09:20] <dzderic> dd if=/something of=/dev/sda
[09:20] <ashish> my right click not work
[09:20] <Gnea> sam-_-: well, school has a prefix of 2620::, this isp is using 2002::
[09:20] <Gnea> sam-_-: so yes, the real deal
[09:20] <sam-_-> Gnea, pretty cool
[09:21] <Gnea> sam-_-: except there's no reverse dns
[09:21] <sam-_-> Gnea, yet
[09:21] <gian> hi all: j can't listen gnomeradio : there's no /dev/radio0..someone help me ?
[09:22] <ashish> plz help me my touchpad right click not work
[09:22] <hiexpo> ok it appears that noone is going to help me partion this drive so i can install ubuntu on it so maybe i don't need ubuntu > time to find another distro to install
[09:22] <Gnea> sam-_-: and I changed majors, so unless I get a gig doing some IT work to make it work right, that work will be up to whoever is trying to figure it out
[09:22] <its-me-again> hiexpo: hi
[09:22] <its-me-again> can i pm you first
[09:22] <hiexpo> yes
[09:23] <ashish> plz help
[09:23] <ashish> plz help
[09:23] <Gnea> !patience | ashish
[09:23] <Gnea> and stop saying plz, it's not a real word
[09:23] <Valen> hiexpo, did you do the gparted picture?
[09:24] <ashish> ok my right click not work
[09:24] <Valen> ashish, "the right click button on my mouse doesnt work"
[09:24] <Gnea> !details | ashish
[09:24] <coldfront> ashish what kind of touchpad?
[09:24] <Gnea> ashish: also, has it always not worked or just recently?
[09:24] <sam-_-> ashish, start: xev
[09:24] <sam-_-> ashish, you can test there if the button works
[09:24] <ashish> laptop
[09:25] <ashish> yes
[09:25] <sam-_-> ashish, yes, what?
[09:25] <ashish> in which boton
[09:26] <Gnea> ashish: here we speak english, try to keep up, or specify another language that you are better at speaking and we can get you to a place that understands you better
[09:26] <vs-hs> omg he has a laptop!
[09:26] <vs-hs> witout right click
[09:26] <vs-hs> ;)
[09:26] <sam-_-> Gnea, that would be hindi i guess :-)
[09:26] <Daekdroom> Don't troll
[09:26] <Gnea> Daekdroom: who are you directing that toward?
[09:26] <ashish> yes
[09:26] <Daekdroom> vs-hs
[09:26] <Gnea> vs-hs: macs have those
[09:27] <Gnea> !in | ashish
[09:27] <chalcedony> Irulan, FOUND and fixed! Thank you!
[09:28] <ashish> inubuntu 10.10
[09:28] <Irulan> you're welcome
[09:29] <sam-_-> Gnea, lol @ the channel topic of ubuntu-in: it says: please chat in english so that everyone can understand
[09:29] <JackyAlcine> Lmfaoo
[09:30] <chalcedony> sam-_-, lol
[09:31] <vs-hs> Daekdroom: Ok :)
[09:31] <Gnea> sam-_-: oh wow
[09:32] <sam-_-> Gnea, i guess it's because hindi has so many dialects they can't understand each other anyway. not sure though
[09:32] <Valen> all that cos his mouse is broken anyway
[09:33] <VectorX> using cli apt-get, how can i specify a server to get the downloads from ?
[09:33] <sam-_-> Valen, i'm not so sure. could also be a driver issue.
[09:33] <Gnea> perhaps he spilled coffee on it
[09:34] <sam-_-> Valen, especially with touchpads
[09:34] <sam-_-> VectorX, i guess you have to edit sources list manually
[09:34] <Valen> was it a laptop even?
[09:34] <root_> how can i edit sequence of OS s in grub boot loader?
[09:35] <sam-_-> Valen, he claimed so.
[09:35] <Valen> ahh
[09:35] <Valen> still probably mechanical if left mouse and pad were working
[09:35] <tajys> Hello, all... I'm having some trouble
[09:36] <sam-_-> Valen, would be my first guess too.
[09:36] <tajys> I think I broke Java T_T
[09:36] <sam-_-> tajys, why?
[09:36] <Gnea> root_: use a text editor
[09:36] <VectorX> sam-_- basically i want to tell it to use the server for a specific country so that the installs will be faster, could have done it with gnome but its not installed
[09:36] <Valen> crap man half the internet works on java you better fix it before somebody notices
[09:37] <Valen> VectorX,sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:37] <Valen> sudo apt-get update
[09:37] <sam-_-> VectorX, what Valen is suggesting.
[09:37] <harish> hello
[09:37] <tajys> Some friends got me hooked on Minecraft, but my sound stopped working... I tried to fix it... but now minecraft.net/game causes firefox to give me the silent treatment (it stops responding)
[09:38] <Carl0s-> That sucks dude.
[09:38] <tajys> Sound was only not working in Minecraft. It works everywhere else, though I don't use anything else with Java... So I'm not entirely sure if it's a Java issue or a minecraft issue =/
[09:39] <root_> how can i edit sequence of OS s in grub boot loader?
[09:39] <sam-_-> !grub | root_
[09:40] <harish> any one can help me for use of external pci ethernet interface
[09:40] <tajys> So now I am sad, and I'm not sure what to do =/
[09:40] <Carl0s-> You've probably misadjusted the triangular vortex wavelength. Hth.
[09:40] <Valen> grub2 is hard
[09:41] <Gnea> !pm | root_
[09:41] <refund> How do I enable scrolling with the mouse wheel in byobu
[09:41] <Carl0s-> This is cool.I've got irc on my phone! Dip how long til unity gets a menu, our do I need to ask that in plus one?
[09:41] <Gnea> root_: I told you: with a text editor.
[09:42] <root_> how ?
[09:42] <Gnea> uh
[09:42] <Gnea> how long have you used Ubuntu?
[09:43] <root_> now about 4mounths only
[09:43] <tgywa> how do I remove compiled and installed programs ?
[09:43] <tgywa> php 5.2 in this case
[09:43] <feanor> tgywa, make uninstall
[09:43] <Gnea> root_: are you familiar with gedit, nano or vim?
[09:43] <Gnea> root_: stop PMing me
[09:44] <root_> ya suerly.
[09:44] <totem> Valen, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[09:44] <tgywa> feanor, thank u ... trying that out now
[09:44] <Gnea> root_: if you PM me one more time, I reserve the right to stop helping you.
[09:44] <feanor> !rootirc
[09:45] <Carl0s-> Root_: Sudo nano..
  i know gedit, nano or vim how can  edit grub
[09:45] <Gnea> root_: gedit, nano and vim are text editors. use one of them to edit the file.
[09:45] <Gnea> !grub2 | root_
[09:45] <root_> with file
[09:45] <tajys> Am I just SoL, then? =/
[09:45] <Gnea> root_: second URL that ubottu just said
[09:45] <Gnea> root_: read it.
[09:46] <sam-_-> tajys, no. you just have to clear your configs. not sure about the java sound issue though
[09:46] <root_> okey lot of thanks
[09:46] <tajys> How do I go about doing that? I don't want to break anything more T_T
[09:46] <Carl0s-> I'll never get to work like this..
[09:47] <Carl0s-> That reminds nrw of a question I had
[09:47] <Carl0s-> Me..
[09:47] <bubuzzz> is there anyway to improve the sshfs peformance ?
[09:48] <bubuzzz>  i am using vim to edit the remote files and it is very slow every time i save the file
[09:48] <popey> bubuzzz: are you using compression "-C" with the ssh connection?
[09:48] <jpds> bubuzzz: Log into the server, and run vim remotely?
[09:48] <bubuzzz> jpds, yes
[09:48] <bubuzzz> popey, no. will have a look at that
[09:48] <Carl0s-> I have installed pureftpd. How do u set it to auto start.. I understand sysvinit but not upstart.
[09:49] <twoface> Hi. I just installed 10.10 on a laptop, and connected it via VPN to my work. I am having trouble reaching our systems as 'systemname.local'. I can resolve it perfectly, but can ping og access via a browser. It has always worked, but just not on this specific laptop. Any suggestions as to why dns lookup works fine, but connecting doesn't? 'traceroute' returns 'Name or service not known' and 'tracepath'
[09:49] <twoface> says 'gethostbyname2: Unknown host'
[09:49] <Carl0s-> Twoface dida vb le avahi-daemon
[09:49] <twoface> Carl0s-, what?
[09:50] <Carl0s-> Disable avahi-daemon, it breaks .local lookups.
[09:50] <twoface> aah, thanks
[09:50] <Carl0s-> Or apt-get remove avahi-daemon. You'll lose zeroconf stuff tho.
[09:50] <twoface> perfect :)
[09:50] <twoface> never uses it anyway
[09:50] <Carl0s-> Cool :)
[09:51] <twoface> you just saved me a lot of pain :) i do remember having read about it a long time ago, though, but had obviously forgotten again
[09:51] <Carl0s-> Me too but I encountered it again just yesterday si it
[09:52] <Carl0s-> So it was fresh in my mind!
[09:52] <sam-_-> Carl0s-, edit /etc/vsftpd.conf
[09:52] <sam-_-> Carl0s-, the listen parameter
[09:52] <math2> Bonjour
[09:52] <tgywa> can't use "make uninstall" ... didn't work
[09:52] <sam-_-> Carl0s-, should be set anyway
[09:52] <math2> Does everyone use to speak english ?
[09:52] <Carl0s-> Sam-_- cool thanks I'll check it!
[09:52] <flazzid> might anyone be able to tell me when i go to the software center and try to download anything it says "requires installation of untrusted packages
[09:53] <tgywa> feanor, , can't use "make uninstall" ... didn't work
[09:53] <sam-_-> tgywa, try make help. if there is nothing there you have to delete the files manually
[09:53] <bubuzzz> -C option increases the performance a little bit
[09:53] <bubuzzz> cost me around 3, 4 seconds everytime saving file
[09:54] <math2> ok… May someone help me ?? I would like to install an Ubuntu an unofficial perl module… And I don't have clew how to do it. I found CPAN for official library… but in my case ...
[09:54] <sam-_-> flazzid, like which packages?
[09:54] <sam-_-> flazzid, maybe you accidentally uninstalled ubuntu-keyring
[09:54] <flazzid> sam-_- : the last one was stellarium
[09:55] <flazzid> how to i reinstall it
[09:55] <pitiplatch> hey, can someone tell me how to repplace files with a script?
[09:55] <sam-_-> flazzid, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-keyring
[09:56] <VectorX> where can i get a list of repo servers for each country ?, the list i got from http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/generate.php doesnt seem to be working
[09:56] <tgywa> sam-_-, thank u
[09:56] <tgywa> it worked that way.
[09:56] <flazzid> it says i already have the newest one
[09:58] <math2> … I would like to install an Ubuntu an unofficial perl module… And I don't have clew how to do it. I found CPAN for official library… but in my case… Can someone help me ?
[09:58] <sam-_-> flazzid, did you add any ppa?
[09:58] <flazzid> sam-_- : just the one for wine
[09:59] <root_> ഹൈദരാബാദ്
[09:59] <sam-_-> flazzid, might be the cause
[09:59] <flazzid> how do i uninstall it
[09:59] <sam-_-> root_, right...
[09:59] <flazzid> yeah
[09:59] <root_> sam-- thanks
[10:00] <feanor> !th
[10:01] <sam-_-> flazzid, try installing sth. like openvpn to see if it really is because of the ppa.
[10:04] <Gatonegro> Hello all. I'm having an odd issue -- we have several Ubuntu machines in a network, but sometimes we can't see each other shared folders.
[10:04] <Gatonegro> It happens quite frequently.
[10:05] <sam-_-> Gatonegro, unfortunately not odd at all
[10:06] <Gatonegro> sam -- That's bad news. :(
[10:06] <Gatonegro> sam Is there any way to fix it?
[10:07] <sam-_-> Gatonegro, it helps to directly address them via their ip address
[10:07] <Rapidspeeds> Want a fast unmetered 1Gb seedbox or srteaming server ? www.rapidspeeds.com
[10:08] <Gatonegro> sam I'm not sure how to do that? Where should I put their IP?
[10:08] <feanor> wow that was quick
[10:09] <feanor> what's a seedbox?
[10:09] <sam-_-> Gatonegro, in natilus press ctl + L then enter sth like smb://<ip address>
[10:09] <Gatonegro> sam Aahh... Alright. I'll see if that works.
[10:09] <Gatonegro> sam Is there a way to make that automatic?
[10:10] <Gatonegro> I mean -- we have static IPs, and the machines are usually always on.
[10:10] <feanor> Gatonegro, play with browser settings
[10:10] <sam-_-> Gatonegro, bookmarks?
[10:10] <Gatonegro> sam-_-, Hum. I'll try that.
[10:13] <_du> hi all, i've a problem with remmina rdp connection - backslash doesn't work, i.e. when i press backslesh btn it doesn't produce corresponding symbol on remote box. Any suggestions?
[10:15] <nVee> hey guys
[10:15] <nVee> very stupid question, in terminal, how can I pause output?
[10:15] <kaushal> hi
[10:15] <nVee> e.g.
[10:15] <kaushal> when i do pastebinit -i ipsec.log, i get http://pastebin.com/, i dont get pasteid
[10:16] <nVee> ifconfig, it runs but I cant see the top of the output
[10:17] <squig> I want to reinstall a package, so that its database config gets installed
[10:17] <squig> what command would i use to do that?
[10:17] <sam-_-> nVee, pipe it through less
[10:17] <sam-_-> nVee, ifconfig  | less
[10:18] <sam-_-> squig, database config?
[10:19] <kaushal> hi
[10:19] <kaushal> when i do pastebinit -i ipsec.log, i get http://pastebin.com/, i dont get pasteid
[10:19] <squig> sam yes tahts what I want to do, but whats the command for that?
[10:20] <Taste> hello
[10:20] <shai__> Hello :) I've got a very new installation of Ubuntu 10.04.01 amd64 Server Edition (headless) and I've installed on it Firefox with all the needed X libs so that I can do some X forwarding when needed. When I run ssh -X myserver ; the X forwarding is very very very slow which is impossible to work with. The WAN over SSH connection to the server itself is perfect. What could be causing X...
[10:20] <shai__> ...forwarding to be so slow?
[10:21] <Qci> hello, i have a testing pc that runs ubuntu server. i want to create virtual machine on it that will have the same server settings (php, java....) can i do that? basicly what i wan in the end is to have 2 enviroment that are the same (except file system), one for QA and one for DEV. where can i read more about it?
[10:21] <ozzynotwood> Hello room, can anybody chat to me about the program "Motion"? I'm having some trouble with it
[10:21] <sam-_-> squig, i don't know what you mean by database config?
[10:21] <sam-_-> squig, which software?
[10:21] <deww> shai__: i've always thought x forwarding is crazy slow
[10:21] <Taste> im having an issue updating m drivers with ubuntu anyone about may be able to assist me?
[10:21] <squig> sam-_-, the package installs a database at install time, i am trying to reinstall the database
[10:21] <squig> sam-_-, bacula
[10:22] <shai__> deww: It is plain now working.... I start up firefox and it takes approx. 3-5min to open up and then every click a couple more min to do something (if at all)
[10:22] <sam-_-> squig, maybe dpkg-reconfigure will help
[10:23] <sam-_-> shai__, use vnc or rdp or sth. like that.
[10:23] <squig> sam-_-, yes had to force it
[10:23] <tajys> sam-_-, can you tell me how to clear the configs, or where I can find out? I tried to figure it out on my own, but I don't want to mess up anything else =/
[10:23] <sam-_-> tajys, configs for what again?
[10:24] <sam-_-> !anyone | Taste
[10:24] <sam-_-> !ask | Taste
[10:24] <shai__> sam-_-: Do I need to have an X server for that or can I lunch just firefox in VNC without having to install a desktop completely?
[10:24] <sam-_-> shai__, you will need an xserver.
[10:25] <Taste> well im downloading my nvidia drivers from their site, and im downloading their linux 32bit version (sinc eim on a ubuntu 32 bit) but hwen i downlaod them i can run the file etc etc
[10:25] <Taste> cant*
[10:25] <tajys> sam-_-, I dunno... You said something about clearing configs... because something I did to Java is causing firefox to not respond whenever I try to run something with Java
[10:25] <sam-_-> !nvidia | Taste
[10:25] <barca_> hello
[10:26] <deww> shai__: try -C (compression), i don't think it's gonna be much better tho
[10:26] <sam-_-> tajys, by that i meant the java cache and the firefox cache and maybe more
[10:27] <its-me-again> hiexpo: hello are you around still
[10:28] <shai__> deww: I actually ran 'ssh -c arcfour,blowfish-cbc -XC user@myserver' ; and it works much better (not that fast, but better no the less)
[10:28] <tajys> sam-_-, if that's something I'm supposed to do through the Java control panel, it's not coming up =/
[10:29] <root_> where  is font folder?
[10:29] <sam-_-> tajys, i don't know where exactly they are. possibilities: .config/  .sun/  .java/   .firefox/<subdir>
[10:30] <sam-_-> root_, /usr/share/fonts/
[10:30]  * tajys thinks she might have broken java good, since the control panel won't even run =/
[10:31] <root_> thanks sam
[10:31] <sam-_-> tajys, run it in a console. it will probably tell you sth.
[10:31] <its-me-again> tajys: adn how woudl you have broken java then
[10:32] <tajys> its-me-again: What?
[10:32] <its-me-again> tajys: you said you broak java right.   how did that brake
[10:33] <its-me-again> tajys: how did java break
[10:33] <tajys> its-me-again: I think something I did when I was trying to fix the sound did something that negatively impacted the rest of java...
[10:34] <Gatonegro> sam-_-, Entering the IP worked just fine -- and I can add them to bookmarks and they stay where they should be. :o) Thanks a lot.
[10:34] <Gatonegro> However, this is something that needs fixing badly, no?
[10:34] <its-me-again> tajys: java has nothing to do with sound
[10:34] <Gatonegro> Is there a reported bug for this?
[10:34] <refund> How do I enable scrolling with the mouse wheel in byobu
[10:34] <sam-_-> Gatonegro, is winbind running on all of your machines?
[10:34] <its-me-again> refund: what is byobu
[10:34] <tajys> its-me-again: I figure when the sound is only not working on something that uses Java, it does have something to do with it.
[10:35] <refund> its-me-again, Interface changes to screen or something
[10:35] <its-me-again> tajys: i dont think so but you maybe right
[10:36] <its-me-again> refund: i dotn know what byobu is
[10:36] <its-me-again> but have you made sure the corect mouse type is setup
[10:36] <tajys> its-me-again: Of course, I could be completely mistaken and sound only not working in Java (but working fine everywhere else) could be a problem with flash or something
[10:36] <its-me-again> tajys: in the menu type mouse
[10:37] <tajys> What?
[10:37] <its-me-again> tjok look for the mous settins under settings
[10:37] <osmosis_paul> to commit a change of a folder to svn is just svn add "folder/file" and then svn commit?
[10:38] <its-me-again> shoudl be in menu>prefferances
[10:38] <tajys> Because mouse does have to do with the sound not working in Java?
[10:38] <its-me-again> ^ tajys
[10:38] <LunaVorax> Hello everyone !
[10:38] <tajys> How does mouse = sound?
[10:39] <its-me-again> tajys: oops recund has mouse problem
[10:39] <its-me-again> refund
[10:39] <LunaVorax> I'm on a computer with two graphical cards but the most power hungry (9600M) is the only one detected and therefore activated. Is there a way to force the detection of the second graphical card (9400M) and activate it instead of the other one ?
[10:39] <its-me-again> refund: in menu>preferances you will find mouse settings
[10:40] <its-me-again> LunaVorax: what are the 2 cards
[10:40] <its-me-again> is oen on the motherboard adn the other oen in the screenccard slot
[10:41] <LunaVorax> its-me-again, I'm on a mbp 15" theses are two chips on the motherboard
[10:41] <its-me-again> Lunar_Lamp: oh then i cant help on that
[10:41] <dr4g> Guys i usually connect to \\MCS01 at ip: <IP_ADDRESS>  - I'm trying the Places -> Connect to server, but it keeps telling me it's not monted and such
[10:41] <dr4g> I entered the right domain, username and password - but it craps out
[10:41] <its-me-again> LunaVorax: you can try also posting in the forums
[10:42] <its-me-again> LunaVorax: i cnt help you sorry
[10:42] <dr4g> The "Share" box, i've tried "\\mcs01" and "mcs01" and leaving it blank.
[10:42] <salvia> hi folks
[10:42] <Gatonegro> sam-_-, I have checked, and on some machines it is not running. How can I launch it?
[10:42] <feanor> dr4g, and?
[10:43] <dr4g> feanor, and what?
[10:43] <its-me-again> dr4g: it shoudl be automatic detected make sure the modem is plugged in adn switched on adn then reboot computer xhould autodetc
[10:43] <SlyUk> Hey, ive installed a new wireless card which is detected fine. When i tell wicd to use wlan1 instead of wlan0 it tells me it cant find anything. ifconfig shows wlan1 is there too.
[10:43] <pitiplatch> how do i tell the script not to run the next command untill the last one is done?
[10:43] <sam-_-> Gatonegro, installing it should help
[10:43] <dr4g> its-me-again, ok aha i just found the "Places" -> "Network" icon
[10:44] <aurax> I'm trying to setup audio over hdmi in 10.10, but i don't see nvidia HDA with 'aplay -l' or '-L', any idea?
[10:44] <dr4g> its-me-again, i got it now, thanks mate!
[10:44] <feanor> dr4g, when you type that crap in, do youi see a rainbow or what?
[10:45] <its-me-again> dr4g: np anytime
[10:47] <s-andersen> Hi, I'm using LPR to print and staple a document, however, the first page should be printed from tray1 and the rest from tray2. I have tried: sudo lpr -P printer -o 1:media=tray1 -o media=tray2 filename, but the printer pulls these from the same tray. What am I doing wrong?
[10:48] <dr4g> feanor, get a life
[10:48] <zhibo> hello
[10:53] <PPK_> rizon.net
[10:54] <feanor> ^ was it a spammer?
[10:55] <ribot> hi
[10:55] <ribot> how can i install locale-support
[10:55] <ox3a> feanor, ?
[10:55] <zlatan> hi there everyone
[10:56] <tajys> Did I mention that java -version doesn't work in the terminal?
[10:56] <zlatan> my transmission came almost to the end of downloading but didn't finish...and there are 60 connected peers but I am not downloading from any..Why is that?
[10:56] <tajys> I am trying to find the site with the instructions I followed to try to get sound working, and I can't find it >.<
[10:57] <erUSUL> zlatan: maybe the file has less than 1 disponibility ( no peer has the complete file ) and all of you are stuck with incomplete downloads ...
[10:58] <zlatan> erUSUL:can I check somehow that
[10:59] <erUSUL> zlatan: i do not use transmission myself; dunno where it displays that info
[10:59] <sugoruyo> zlatan: I suggest you wait, you can check that if you go to your torrent's peers tab, also try to locate and manually additional trackers, but if it completes let it seed for a while
[10:59] <ubufind> how do i find an iso in ubunto if i dont know where to look?
[11:00] <ubufind> the "find" command is very confuseing for me
[11:00] <linuxtech> try locate iso
[11:00] <popey> ubufind: click the find icon in nautilus?
[11:00] <popey> ubufind: why use the command line at all?
[11:00] <ubufind> what?
[11:01] <ubufind> there is no find command
[11:01] <ubufind> or icon
[11:01] <popey> there is a magnifying glass icon (search) in nautilus
[11:01] <ubufind> ???
[11:01] <popey> nautilus being the file manager
[11:01] <zlatan> sugoruyo:my torrent tab doesen't have any option-actually it has but I can't use it
[11:01] <ubufind> not installed
[11:01] <popey> ubufind: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[11:02] <ubufind> xubuntu
[11:02] <_Rno_> Hello, I'm using the guest mode of ubuntu, and so the guest apparmor profile and I'm facing an issue with google chrome. I would like to add a sub profile to the guest one which authorize everything only for google-chrome but I don't find anything about such a thing in the apparmor.d man page.
[11:02] <sugoruyo> zlatan: why?
[11:02] <nicolina> i have a big problem
[11:02] <popey> ubufind: sorry, i dont know xubuntu, try in #xubuntu
[11:02] <nicolina> i am not able to boot opensuse from PXE ( i used  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro )
[11:02] <nicolina> the PXE shows up, but pressing enter on opensuse label doesn't make anything
[11:03] <sugoruyo> nicolina: can you boot anything else with PXE?
[11:03] <nicolina> i have only suse
[11:03] <nicolina> no error message appear
[11:03] <nicolina> nothing
[11:04] <zlatan> sugoruyo:I do not know that :D
[11:04] <ribot> how can i display unicode chars in irssi?
[11:04] <zlatan> I see options but are like disabled
[11:05] <ubufind> ty
[11:05] <_Rno_> any idea?
[11:06] <skilz> How can I share my internet connection over eth0? the internet is ppp0
[11:07] <nVee> in samba, is there a way to hide share folders from users who cannot access it?
[11:07] <feanor> how ro see installed package version??
[11:08] <testing_09> hi
[11:08] <freddy__> hi
[11:08] <testing_09> how can I make ipip tunel un ubuntu desktop?
[11:08] <danne_> hi, i have some problem with my cpu fan.  Most people are fine with defaults
[11:18] <uni4dfx> feanor i'm a big fan of ubuntu, but if bullsh*t like this continues i'll probably switch to it
[11:18] <erUSUL> uni4dfx: please next time explain who in  "they're forcing me" are and by what means they are forcing you to do anything.
[11:19] <sugoruyo> uni4dfx: choosing a distro == choosing the one whose default system and other choices you like the best, ergo noone is *actually* forcing you to do anything, and installing rhythmbox is as simple as sudo apt-get install rythmbox
[11:20] <uni4dfx> meh why am i arguing with people who have no clue about the desktop experience...
[11:21] <sugoruyo> uni4dfx: if you'd rather not have to do even that, try some distro that ships is as default, if that distro however makes other choices you don't like, please go troll their IRC, ok?
[11:21] <icesword> !info rythmbox
[11:21] <strange> what are we crying about today?
[11:21] <sam-_-> !info rhythmbox
[11:22] <strange> cant we have the kde/gnome discussion again
[11:22] <strange> thats always good
[11:22] <icesword> ...
[11:23] <sugoruyo> uni4dfx: it's linux, you can always make your own distro if you're so inclined... if not, noone will do it for you so you either compromise or politely attempt to influence the decision - if people still make the choice you don't like, don't bitch about it!
[11:25] <bazhang> uni4dfx, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:29] <glaceman> does anybody know please a shortcut key to switch the keyboard layout ?
[11:29] <ASDF-One> Hallo zusammen
[11:29] <ASDF-One> kann mir jemand helfen ? Ich habe einen verschlüsselten HOME Ordner auf meiner alten Festplatte wo Ubuntu 9.10 drauf ist. Ich komme nicht mehr an meine Daten dran
[11:29] <erUSUL> glaceman: you can define one in system>preferences>keyboard ( layout options in the first tab iirc )
[11:30] <erUSUL> !de | ASDF-One
[11:30] <sam-_-> !de | ASDF-One
[11:30] <feanor> glaceman, alt-shift, ctrl-shift
[11:30] <glaceman> erUSUL: thanks ;)
[11:30] <ASDF-One> txh
[11:31] <glaceman> now i can type in arabic : لووووووووووووووول
[11:31] <glaceman> lol :P
[11:31] <bazhang> glaceman, install ibus, run ibus-setup install language packs
[11:31] <glaceman> bazhang: what for ?
[11:32] <bazhang> glaceman, sorry misread 'now ' for 'how'
[11:32] <glaceman> what's ibus for ?
[11:32] <glaceman> i  have now my 2 layouts working
[11:32] <bazhang> !ibus
[11:33] <glaceman> ok then i dont need ibus
[11:33] <bazhang> glaceman, system wide quick usage of other fonts systems / languages
[11:33] <glaceman> thanks bazhang
[11:36] <aurax> can anyone assist with audio over HDMI?
[11:38] <freddy__> hi is there a possibility that I can use scp without using the file .ssh/known_hosts on a read-only filesystem ?
[11:43] <riduan> nik noraziah
[11:45] <DND> guys in ubuntu 10.10, in the disk there is usb-creator.exe
[11:45] <DND> can i use this to install 10.10?
[11:45] <icesword> no
[11:46] <icesword> !diskinstall
[11:46] <icesword> !install
[11:46] <DND> hmm because i wanted to have a USB stick that has the "full" installation not just copying the cd contents
[11:47] <icesword> !usbboot
[11:47] <uburediculous> ...
[11:47] <madstein> you broke the bot
[11:47] <DND> !fixbot
[11:47] <icesword> unetbin
[11:47] <madstein> lol ice
[11:47] <sam-_-> !fail
[11:48] <madstein> command not found
[11:48] <icesword> what!
[11:48] <madstein> command not found
[11:48] <aurilliance> Can anyone tell me why code editors these days allways wrap at 72 chars, rather than 80?
[11:48] <DND> !usb-install
[11:49] <madstein> !unebootin
[11:49] <madstein> !unebotin
[11:49] <bazhang> DND, that or unetbootin
[11:49] <greppy> !ot | aurilliance
 Sorry, I don't know anything about unebootin
 Sorry, I don't know anything about unebotin
[11:49] <madstein> i broke the bot
[11:49] <bazhang> dnd unetbootin.sourceforge.net
[11:49] <aurilliance> greppy, sorry, my mistake
[11:49] <bazhang> madstein, you spelled it wrong
[11:50] <madstein> oi
[11:50] <madstein> u type it then
[11:50] <DND> bazhang, so with this i can install it to USB as if its a hard disk. plus i can plug it into another computer?
[11:50] <madstein> :p
[11:50] <madstein> !unetbootin
[11:50] <madstein> google ehhe
[11:50] <madstein> google ehhe
[11:50] <madstein> !unetbootin
[11:50] <FloodBot1> madstein: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:50] <madstein> u right
[11:50] <bazhang> DND, install from it yep
[11:50] <bazhang> madstein, /msg ubottu please
[11:51] <madstein> just playing dumb
[11:51] <madstein> i'll stop
[11:51] <c4pt> can anyone recommend a good firefox password management system with aes (and a firefox button) similar to 1Password for ubuntu?
[11:51] <bazhang> DND, you can make it a live usb, persistent usb (save changes) or installer usb
[11:51] <bazhang> dnd try /msg ubottu usb    for some of the options
[11:53] <bazhang> c4pt, check out the firefox plugins page
[11:54] <c4pt> bazhang, well
[11:54] <c4pt> bazhang, i see something like lastpass
[11:54] <c4pt> bazhang, but i dont like the fact that lastpass transmits the passwords to lastpass servers.
[11:54] <bazhang> c4pt, try it, there are some others (can't remember the names atm)
[11:55] <c4pt> bazhang, i am looking for a password manager similar to 1password which stores the database on the harddrive in an aes container and has firefox plugins
[11:55] <bazhang> c4pt, never heard of something like that, doubt it exists
[11:57] <c4pt> bazhang, yeah its called 1Password
[11:57] <yimfos> truruf
[11:57] <c4pt> bazhang, for mac os x and windows
[11:57] <c4pt> bazhang, they dont make a linux version L:(
[11:57] <hedin_> hi, I need a 32 bit app on my 10.10 64 bit inst. (canon print drivers), how do i make this happen?
[12:03] <MadVector> c4pt, try keepassx. maybe u like it
[12:03] <c4pt> MadVector, i have its pretty decent but no firefox addon for autofill
[12:03] <tajys> Whew... sam-_-, thanks for trying to help me. Looks like I was over thinking it a bit
[12:03] <johnlocke> this is a freaking joke. How do I set fstab to mount my drives as a user?
[12:04] <c4pt> MadVector, bazhang its ok i think ill just use lastpass and be paranoid about it transmitting the encrypted data i shouldnt have to worry though "its encrypted right" lulz
[12:04] <greppy> johnlocke: take a look at the man page for fstab, you need to set the user option.
[12:04] <johnlocke> greppy: I have set the user option. It does not work
[12:04] <johnlocke> it mounts as root. I try to chown it to my user, and I still get a permission denied when I try to touch anything
[12:04] <feanor> \ot{do not trust AES}
[12:05] <greppy> johnlocke: for instance, my cdrom entry on one box: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[12:05] <greppy> johnlocke: is it mounted automatically at boot, in that case, yes, it will be owned by root.
[12:05] <c4pt> feanor, ?
[12:05] <sam-_-> johnlocke, then you need to umask
[12:06] <johnlocke>  /dev/sda1       /media/series/  ext4    user,noauto,exec                0       0
[12:06] <Utente> hi all! how can i see any unmounted HDisks with command line (not formatted disks...), pls?
[12:06] <johnlocke> mount /media/series
[12:06] <johnlocke> it mounts as root
[12:06] <johnlocke> even though I run the mount command as user, and it returns fine
[12:07] <johnlocke> it is still owned by freaking root. That doesn't make any sense
[12:07] <sam-_-> johnlocke, add umask=000
[12:08] <sam-_-> johnlocke, but then the permissions on all files are rwxrwxrwx
[12:08] <johnlocke> unrecognized mount option umask=000
[12:09] <johnlocke> I dont care what permission it has. As long as I can reach it as a user. badabing badaboom why is this an issue?
[12:09] <sam-_-> johnlocke, seems to not exist for ext4
[12:10] <johnlocke> sam-_-: ofcourse it doesn't. Why on earth did I choose ext4 then!?
[12:10] <sam-_-> johnlocke, for ext4 you should really just set the permissions the normal way
[12:11] <sam-_-> johnlocke, via chown and chmod
[12:11] <johnlocke> I did that. and when I run ls -lah it returns johnlocke root
[12:11] <johnlocke> but I still can't create files!
[12:12] <freddy__> i have a problem with my ubutnuserver, it has mounted the filesystem ro but I didnt do anything to make that happen - can I find out why when etc and how to remedy ?
[12:12] <sam-_-> johnlocke, well maybe you don't have write permissions?
[12:12] <sam-_-> johnlocke, it isn't enough to just own the file/dir#
[12:13] <johnlocke> ok. So in fstab.  I don't care if the NSA can create files on my hdd. As long as it just works
[12:13] <johnlocke> I want to run mount -a as my normal user and have full controll of the hdd
[12:13] <sam-_-> johnlocke, does it just hold data?
[12:13] <johnlocke> yes
[12:14] <johnlocke> no os or swap etc
[12:15] <sam-_-> johnlocke, then mount the device and do this: chmod 666 -R <path to mounted fs>
[12:16] <sam-_-> johnlocke, may need sudo. just be sure it's the right path to the fs otherwise it will mess up everything
[12:17] <johnlocke> ok, now I can't even cd in to that dir
[12:17] <feanor> omg filesystem permissions DO NOT affect mount points
[12:17] <sam-_-> feanor, doesn't matter.
[12:18] <usuario> ehhh
[12:18] <usuario> gilipollas
[12:18] <sam-_-> johnlocke, also to claim the ownership chmod johnlocke -R <path to fs>
[12:19] <sam-_-> !es | usuario
[12:19] <usuario> olaaaa
[12:19] <greppy> sam-_-: chown johnlocke -R /path/to/fs
[12:19] <usuario> putaaaa
[12:19] <usuario> abaerto
[12:19] <sam-_-> !ops | usuario
[12:20] <DJones> !es > usuario
[12:20] <johnlocke> ok chmod 777 and chown johnlocke did it. Jesus that was annoying. thank you for the help. Ill probably set it up properly when I have time
[12:20] <greppy> johnlocke: the chown should have been all that was needed
[12:21] <sam-_-> greppy, how do you know?
[12:21] <sam-_-> greppy, it could be that he didn't have write permission even then
[12:22] <greppy> sam-_-: because if he owns it all, he would have been able to make changes, unless it he didn't have write perms, but setting it to 777 makes it so that any user on the system can create, delete or change files on the volume, including from the webserver if there is a broken or compromised script.
[12:23] <sam-_-> greppy, you realize you just contradicted yourself?
[12:23] <greppy> no
[12:23] <kasparof> hello!
[12:24] <c4pt> im having trouble with smb-samba :(
[12:24] <c4pt> this is a fresh install of ubuntu 10.10
[12:24] <c4pt> after the install
[12:24] <c4pt> i right clicked on my public folder and selected share this folder
[12:24] <greppy> sam-_-: even if he didn't have write permissions, he would be able to change them without using sudo.  try it, touch somefile, chmod 000 somefile try to mess with it, then chmod 600 somefile.
[12:24] <c4pt> so it installed the samba services.
[12:24] <bullgard4> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo: "If all devices listed say "no wireless extensions." then your wireless card is not configured. " <--  What is a "wireless extension"?
[12:25] <c4pt> after it installed the samba services when i try to connect to a windows 7 host on the lan from ubuntu it says failed to retrieve list
[12:25] <hedin_> how do i install 32bit apps on 64 bit 10.10?
[12:25] <sam-_-> greppy, yes. but he would still need chmod which you said he didn't
[12:25] <c4pt> ubuntu -> windows 7 on ubuntu (via samba and both firewalls are permitting 136-139 and 445
[12:25] <sam-_-> greppy, look. it doesn't matter. we both meant the same just worded it differently...
[12:25] <greppy> sam-_-: he shouldn't unless the perms were set intentionally restrictive.
[12:26] <sam-_-> greppy, y. but you couldn't know
[12:26] <aurilliance> Does anyone know how to remap the Ctrl+n command in nautilus to create a new file, instead of open a new window?
[12:27] <Liooba> hi  all, i'm currently installing a brand new system. i first install ubuntu as my main system, and now i'm partitionning. i plan to install Windows XP or 7 on my PC later. how should i do the partitionning ? (i've 1TB hd space and 2GB RAM) ?