[02:15] <thomas_> how do i take a lock off
[02:15] <thomas_> i need help
[04:55] <pitti> Good morning
[14:11] <elfy> balloons: you happy to lose Ubuntu One from testcases now?
[14:35] <balloons> elfy, hmm.. we'll certainly archive them on the tracker.. and yea, I guess we remove them too.. version control after all, eh? But we can't actually delet them from the tracker db easily, so that would be a case for them to stay in the repo
[14:40] <elfy> balloons: perhaps we're talking at cross-purposes - I'm talking about removing references to ubuntu one in install testcases
[14:41] <balloons> elfy, ohh I was thinking we added a ubuntu one test itself.. perhaps we never did. Yes, certainly we can remove the references
[14:41] <elfy> slickymasterWork checked my MP earlier today
[14:41] <elfy> ok - cool - the MP included a  new testcase for studio - their install has a bit no-one else's does
[15:24] <elfy> balloons: I shall try to get to -classroom channels later on :)
[15:25] <balloons> elfy, :-) open week always slips up on me, it's in the nice calm period after release
[15:25] <elfy> :)
[15:26] <elfy> I'll see if I can come up with a really nasty question :p
[15:26] <elfy> or try and help in the -chat one a bit
[15:57] <cgoldberg> balloons, ping... so i want to write an blog post on Autopilot.  yet another brief introduction... but with some nice code samples.  my blog is syndicated on planet python and canonical voices...  we need more community juice flowing to AP :)
[16:00] <cgoldberg> balloons, but I'm lazy and the docs already explain most everything I want to say.   Do you think it's kosher to reblog some of the Documentation content.  And then I'll write examples using a little Qt5 app that I'll write (AP docs use a Qt4 app).
[16:00] <balloons> cgoldberg, go for it! Having things in the docs isn't bad, and rehasing it slightly for a blog post I think is fine
[16:01] <cgoldberg> cool.  gonna work on it a little each day, hopefully have it ready in a few days
[16:01] <balloons> cgoldberg, so you want it to be an intro again eh?
[16:02] <cgoldberg> basically yes.. showing an app.. writing a cursory AP test for it, explain the parts of the test.... then show how to run it.
[16:03] <cgoldberg> sort of an updated version of this:  http://unity.ubuntu.com/autopilot/tutorial/getting_started.html#a-simple-test
[16:03] <balloons> ok, but using qt5 ..
[16:03] <cgoldberg> aimed at testers and python hackers.  not at casual ubuntu user.
[16:04] <cgoldberg> yea PyQt5
[16:04] <balloons> gotcha gotcha
[16:05] <cgoldberg> balloons, i want to write more advanced posts... but I need a base one that explains some mechanics that i can refer back to.  and there's no Intro that's at the level I like
[16:05] <elfy> balloons: ok - done those syncs now
[16:07] <balloons> cgoldberg, I think pushing the level is just fine. There is an audience for more in-depth things, however small. If nothing else, it allows you to go to the next level if you've hacked on AP or a bit
[16:08] <cgoldberg> balloons, ok.. 1 intro post, then advanced topics for future posts
[16:42] <alesage> quick q: any ideas for how to use autopilot to get back to the greeter?
[16:43] <balloons> on the phone?
[16:43] <alesage> balloons, yes on the phone, good q
[16:43] <alesage> balloons, trying to validate that the background image has changed
[16:44] <balloons> alesage, ahh.. so you want to maintain introspecting the original app then eh?
[16:44] <alesage> balloons, not sure I understand
[16:45] <alesage> balloons, actually not really needing to return to the app
[16:46] <alesage> wanting autopilot to reach a finger and press the 'sleep' button twice
[16:46] <balloons> alesage, I get what you are asking, sorry to confuse. Off the top, I'm not sure autopilot is the best for this, but, you could close the app and do validation in the teardown. The thing is, autopilot can't introspect the greeter unless you launch with it
[16:47] <alesage> balloons, aha interesting, so getting the greeter to launch, it'll still be around probably
[17:19] <elopio> balloons: who's the developer of the rss?
[17:19] <balloons> elopio, there's a few folks.. not sure any are online now, but I can give you contact info
[17:19] <elopio> balloons: or, the music devs.
[17:20] <elopio> I'm looking for a workaround they have in the swipe-to-delete
[17:20] <balloons> elopio, andrew and victor are the music devs
[17:21] <balloons> elopio, see #ubuntu-app-devel, andrew is around right now, I pinged you and him
[17:22] <elopio> thanks
[18:02] <balloons> openweek session time, feel free to observe in #ubuntu-classroom
[18:10] <elfy> observe? I has leading questions ...
[18:10] <balloons> elfy, I expect nothing less of you
[18:10] <elfy> :p
[18:11] <elfy> just one comment so far - replace ubuntu with FAMILY :p
[18:14] <balloons> elfy, well said..
[18:15] <balloons> s/ubuntu/FAMILY/g
[18:15] <elfy> :)
[18:16] <elfy> balloons: light relief when you get a moment http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2219271
[18:22] <balloons> I see unicorns in my future
[18:24] <elfy> :)
[18:24] <elfy> I saw the future ages ago lol
[18:25] <elfy> your lottery ticket numbers are ...
[19:02] <elfy> balloons: so I wasn't aware that there was an ap channel as well - not that I would be ;)
[19:02] <balloons> elfy, right you probably weren't. I swapped to using it more and more.. and other folks certainly do so as you'll get better answers there than here :-)
[19:02] <elfy> the thing I find hard is that almost all the talk in here is ap related and when someone does want to talk about something else - it gets completely swamped
[19:03] <balloons> but I certainly shoot the breeze on anything in here.. I like lively channels, but not everyone is the same
[19:03] <elfy> I understand that ap is important obviously
[19:03] <balloons> your feedback is important. I'll be sure to make an effort to not swamp the channel with AP stuff
[19:03] <balloons> there is more going on :-)
[19:04] <elfy> yea yea - totally agree - but I could see that if someone new did come in here about something other than ap - I bet half the time they'd not bother saying anything if irc is new to them
[19:04] <balloons> mostly I think it would be useful for more testers to just hop on IRC while testing
[19:04] <balloons> I feel like it would be very helpful
[19:04] <elfy> and *we* are trying to get people involved with *us* where ap is not much help at the moment
[19:04] <balloons> not many people understand irc
[19:04] <elfy> yep
[19:05] <elfy> webchat makes that easier
[19:05] <balloons> dkessel, you about? How did the trusty release treat you?
[19:05] <elfy> what I would hate is for this channel to have tumbleweed in it though ...
[19:11]  * patdk-wk runs around looking for tumbleweeds
[19:15] <elfy> patdk-wk: here you are http://i.imgur.com/WybNkNw.gif?1
[19:27] <elfy> balloons: can we try and get something done with see removed/superseded build on the tracker bug this cycle?
[19:27] <elfy> the bug that I can't find the number for :(
[19:27] <balloons> elfy, bug # again?
[19:27] <balloons> lolololol
[19:27] <balloons> ahh yes THAT one
[19:27] <elfy> it's one of yours is as close as I can get atm :p
[19:28] <balloons> is it an stgraber issue?
[19:28] <elfy> I think so
[19:29] <elfy> bug 1126449
[19:30] <elfy> and now I see it in my list of commented bugs ...
[19:38] <cgoldberg> elfy, for AP specific questions, feel free to politely direct people to #ubuntu-autopilot ... it's not quite as lively as here, but all the AP devs are always in it, and questions are noticed generally get good responses
[19:39] <elfy> cgoldberg: it's really not a huge issue most of the time - just when I'm after something :)
[19:40] <cgoldberg> gotcha.. but can keep that in mind of a newb stops by hogs the channel with AP questions :)
[19:41] <elfy> cgoldberg: bit hard for me to tell that - as I tend to blank out ap conversations so generally don't know if someone is a newb to it or not
[19:41] <elfy> and the fact that it's all voodoo to me :)
[19:42] <cgoldberg> rather than blanking, just say "btw, there is also #ubuntu-autopilot, it is specifically for AP related questions" :)
[19:42] <elfy> I wonder though if blog posts that talk of ap - talk of #ubuntu-quality or #ubuntu-autopilot ?
[19:43] <cgoldberg> #ubuntu-autopilot is rather unpublicized
[19:43] <elfy> ok
[19:44] <cgoldberg> elfy, when i blog next about AP, i'll mention both channels and what they are for
[19:44] <elfy> not that I expect people to read the topic - perhaps it could be in there too
[19:44] <elfy> balloons: ^^
[19:45] <cgoldberg> topic needs to be changed anyway :)  Trusty is the present, not the future
[19:46] <elfy> iso tracker has unicorns
[19:46] <elfy> cgoldberg: yea :)
[19:53] <balloons> ohh topic updates
[19:53] <balloons> ideas?
[19:54] <elfy> elfy said unicorn in January - he's the kiddy !
[19:54] <balloons> i'll update the topic too elfy
[19:54] <balloons> on AP stuff I mean :-)
[19:55] <elfy> thanks :)
[19:55] <elfy> Looking towards a Utopian Future!
[19:55] <elfy> lol
[19:55] <dkessel> balloons: good evening. what do you mean "treat me"?
[19:56] <balloons> mwahaha, the power!
[19:56] <dkessel> I love the choice ... unicorn ftw!
[19:56] <balloons> dkessel, my english doesn't translate well. I'm asking how the trusty upgrade went, how your machines are running, etc
[19:56] <balloons> and in general, just saying hello!
[19:57]  * dkessel waves :)
[19:58] <dkessel> oh yes. well everything went fine :) upgraded the wife's and parents' machines to trusty so that I won't have to keep upgrading versions every 6 months ;)
[19:59] <dkessel> oh BTW I got married two weeks ago
[19:59] <dkessel> my main desktop has been on trusty a long time, so no surprises there
[20:00] <elfy> congratulations dkessel :)
[20:00] <elfy> not on the upgrades ... ;)
[20:01] <elfy> stgraber: not that I'm impatient - but when is the package tracker likely to be ready?
[20:02] <elfy> ty balloons :)
[20:02] <balloons> dkessel, congrats on getting married! I wish you and your spouse a happy and bright future
[20:02] <balloons> it's wonderful to have a partner in life :-)
[20:03] <dkessel> thank you guys :)
[20:05] <dkessel> is there a date for the vUDS-U yet?
[20:05] <elfy> will anyone go?
[20:07] <dkessel> or will it not be V anymore?
[20:07] <elfy> I can't see it being a real one dkessel
[20:18] <dkessel> I fear the date will be announced late again
[20:21] <elfy> http://www.jonobacon.org/2014/04/03/ubuntu-online-summit-dates/
[20:21] <elfy> isn't it then?
[20:21] <elfy> balloons: ^^
[20:22] <balloons> elfy, the June dates? yes that's the planned date
[20:22] <balloons> wanted to get in front of late announces, heh, but we need to remember to announce several more times as it gets close
[20:22] <elfy> for vUDS or whatever it's called now
[20:23] <balloons> yep, vUDS. Should be interesting since the LTS is behind us, and LOTS of ideas are ahead
[20:25] <elfy> I find it hard to get to these things - as I suspect do a lot of people that don't work for Canonical
[20:25] <elfy> not that it makes much difference to me - at least it's free if I do manage to get to a session :)
[20:26] <balloons> yea.. it's plus or minus.. at a physical event, it's easy to get together, but it's a limited group who can attend
[20:26] <balloons> with vUDS, anyone can attend, except timezones and real life invades
[20:27] <balloons> it's hard for those outside the european friendly timezones.. folks in Australia, NZD and Asia have a lot of trouble
[20:27] <elfy> yep
[20:28] <elfy> not an easy ask


[01:41] <glenrock> where do the little application icons in the Window Buttons (task bar) come from?   some apps seem to respect whats in my icon theme, but others don't
[01:41] <glenrock> for example,  xchat uses the default icon, even though there's a replacement icon in my theme
[01:47] <starrats> would like to get rid of the annoying taskbar that pops up when I'm trying to type in that area of the bottom of the screen, how do I cancel it or hide it please?
[01:49] <glenrock> starrats: Settings > Panel.  At the top, you will see a dropdown with Panel 0 and Panel 1.   0 is the top panel and 1 is that bottom panel.   you can select panel 1 and either tell it to not autohide, or delete it with the X button
[01:50] <starrats> okay thank you glenrock, know what you're saying, saw it earlier but wasn't sure
[01:50] <glenrock> np
[01:50] <starrats> :)
[02:04] <xubuntu862> hello?
[02:05] <holstein> xubuntu862: lots of folks here.. just ask if you have a question, or /join #xubuntu-offtopic for chat.. check the /topic
[02:05] <xubuntu862> clear
[02:05] <xubuntu862> hahaha
[02:05] <xubuntu862> i need some help
[06:37] <xubuntu296> hallo?
[06:38] <xubuntu296> I have a question
[06:38] <xubuntu296> I'm wondering if anyone knows about touchscreen compatibility with xubuntu?
[06:39] <xubuntu296> hello?
[07:09] <svetlana> hi
[07:09] <svetlana> touchscreen should work. does it not? what hardware?
[07:14] <delt> Turns out it's a BUG in lightdm (doesn't obey ~/.dmrc)  :/
[07:28] <Dr_No> i used xrandr to activate the proper screen resolution but how do i make this permanent in xubuntu 13.10?
[07:28] <xubuntu296> oh I'm sorry I was online looking for an answer, it's an Acer Aspire V5
[07:29] <xubuntu296> I'm actually trying to convince a friend of mine to swap to Xubuntu from Windows and he just wanted to be sure the touchscreen before installing
[07:30] <xubuntu296> *worked
[07:30] <Unit193> Try a live cd, check it out before installing.
[07:31] <xubuntu296> That's what I'm using this very second
[07:32] <xubuntu296> I've been showing him how much betterer this stuff is
[07:33] <xubuntu296> The screen isn't responding to touching at the moment but it may be because it's not fully installed with updates and the right packages
[07:34] <Unit193> What type is it?
[07:34] <xubuntu296> The distro? Xubuntu 12.04.3
[07:35] <xubuntu296> On an Acer Aspire V5
[07:35] <Unit193> I did a apt-cache search on that and came up with xinput-calibrator to calibrate input, but I've never used Xubuntu on a touch screen.  Alright, I'll see if I can find the device.
[07:37] <xubuntu296> I saw that earlier myself, but it won't let me get the xinput_calibrator *I think* because it isn't fully installed yet, but I have a sneaky suspiscion it will once he's switched the OS over fully
[07:38] <Unit193> Oh right, what's in Menu > Settings Manager > Additional Drivers ?
[07:40] <xubuntu296> Der didn't even think of that, loading now :-)
[07:40] <xubuntu296> No propritary drivers in use on this system
[07:41] <delt> how come there's no "additional drivers" in ubuntu studio?
[07:41] <delt> i remember setting it up in xubuntu using that, but in ubuntu studio there's no such entry in the settings
[07:41] <Unit193> delt: Part of xubuntu-default-settings.
[07:42] <delt> can i install that in ubu studio?
[07:43] <xubuntu296> So once I install this I can activate the propritary driver for it and calibrate with xinput_calibrator...... Sound about right?
[07:43] <Unit193> xubuntu296: If it doesn't detect it now, shouldn't then.  What's lspci, or lsusb about it?
[07:43] <Unit193> delt: I've never used Ubuntu Studio, in theory maybe.
[07:44] <xubuntu296> Bugger
[07:45] <Unit193> Open a terminal and paste  lsusb | pastebinit && lspci | pastebinit   and give me the two links.
[07:45] <xubuntu296> OK, one second
[07:45] <delt> The program 'pastebinit' can be found in the following packages: * pastebinit * pastebinit
[07:46] <delt> why is it listing it twice?
[07:46] <delt> (those are on separate lines in the other term)
[07:48] <delt> anyway, installed it, works =)
[07:50] <xubuntu296> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6766526/
[07:50] <xubuntu296> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6766528/
[07:51] <delt> question, what do i do to switch between 32bit and 64bit versions of the OS?
[07:51] <elfy> delt: install both
[07:51] <Unit193> delt: Reinstall. :P
[07:51] <delt> argh :(
[07:51] <delt> just changing the kernel, doesn't that do it?
[07:51] <Dr_No> i used xrandr to activate the proper screen resolution but how do i make this permanent in xubuntu 13.10?
[07:52] <elfy> Dr_No: add it to startup apps - personally I use arandr to do it with a gui
[07:52] <Dr_No> elfy: thank you
[07:53] <elfy> session & startup - application autostart
[07:53] <delt> say i boost this machine to >= 4GB ram, and want to run a 64bit kernel?
[07:54] <Unit193> delt: 32 bit can handle that thanks to PAE, but dual boot or reinstall as far as I know.
[07:55] <elfy> yep - same here
[07:55] <delt> Unit193: wouldn't that be slower than native 64bit addressing?
[07:57] <delt> + pae seems like the same kind of retarded shit they did with EMS/XMS back in the 80's
[07:57] <elfy> !language
[07:57] <delt> sry
[07:58] <xubuntu296> Norti :-P
[08:00] <Unit193> xubuntu296: Well, nothing jumps out to me, but I've never owned a touch screen (except on an old G3 mac.)  In theory you could try a newer version as it may have newer drivers, but who knows.
[08:01] <elfy> I did see someone in here 'recently' saying it had worked for them, not got anymore detail than that though
[08:03] <xubuntu296> Well thank you very much guys for the help, I'm pretty sure I can get it to work, there is always a solution!
[08:18] <ESL|fzninuse> Hi there, my Huawei E1750 Internet Stick isn't working. I tried several things with usb_modeswitch but nothing worked so far.. any ideas? (Xubuntu 13.10)
[12:28] <jost> Hi! I've got a Acer Aspire One D270 netbook here, with XUbuntu 13.10 on it. The problem: I can't log in on the graphical login mask anymore, the password is not accepted, and the touchpad does not work anymore. Logging in on a shell works as expected, so I assume that it's not a switched-on numlock or capslock. Any ideas how to fix this?
[12:29] <jost> As far as I know, it just stopped working some days ago
[12:29] <jost> test_password
[12:31] <jost> even using the screen keyboard does not work for password input
[13:11] <bgardner> jost: Create another user at the command line and see if logging in as that user works?
[13:11] <jost> bgardner: mom
[13:12] <bgardner> jost: I also have a D270 with Xubuntu on it, so let me know how it goes and I can share my setup with you.
[13:21] <jost> bgardner: login via shell has stopped working too, only guest-accounts still work
[13:22] <bgardner> jost: Hmm.
[13:22] <bgardner> jost: Boot single user and reset your primary user's password?
[13:22] <jost> trying that
[13:23] <bgardner> jost: Although your symptoms make me wonder if your keyboard is dying and not passing every keystroke.  Can't imagine what else you have going on.
[13:24] <jost> checked that by entering the pw in the login field - it looks fine
[13:25] <bgardner> Good idea.  Do the password reset and let's see what you get.  That's actually good news, too - software we can fix.
[13:46] <jost> bgardner: resetting the password via root-shell worked... it did not when I logged into the console. Reason seems to be some interrupted or otherwise failed dpkg operation
[13:48] <bgardner> jost: So what's your current situation?  You can log in at terminal but still not on graphical?
[13:48] <jost> I can log in graphically, and am trying to recover what went wrong with the package management
[13:50] <bgardner> jost: K, let us know how that turns out.
[14:12] <jost> bgardner: everything works again, thanks for your help :-)
[14:12] <bgardner> jost: You did most of the work, but glad to assist around the edges.  :)
[14:12] <Sysi> is jockey the only way to install nvidia driver on 12.04 or can I just install the driver package with apt and create xorg.conf myself?
[14:57] <manos_> hello everyone
[14:57] <manos_> :)
[14:58] <manos_> i run 13.10 since yesterday
[14:59] <manos_> but my wireless internet is off and the greek font!!!
[15:00] <manos_> any help for that?
[15:00] <baizon> manos_: what hardware?
[15:00] <manos_> xubuntu 13.10
[15:10] <holstein> manos_: what wifi hardware are you running with the xubuntu 13.10 software?
[15:35] <Peyam> hi
[15:36] <Peyam> My xubuntu on my laptop cant find my wifi. it shows all wifis around but not mine. With windows I can see all of them
[16:46] <henrylinux> hi, I am on 13.10 and I am experiencing a weird problem
[16:48] <henrylinux> I wanted to try out unity to day so I ran "sudo apt-get installubuntu-desktop  --no-install-recommends "
[16:48] <henrylinux> i rebooted and at the login screen, I chose Ubuntu for my session
[16:49] <henrylinux> all the text was in Arial and lots of things were missing (althoudh dash was working and the bar on the left ware there)
[16:49] <henrylinux> rebooted again, logged into the xubuntu session and removed the ubuntu-desktop
[16:49] <henrylinux> ever since, my notifications in the upper right are suddenly formatted in arial and disappear when I hover over them
[16:50] <henrylinux> also, the volume indicator looks different now
[16:51] <henrylinux> I think I could run "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" if I go into tty1 and log in as root but I suppose that's my last streaw
[16:52] <Sysi> for notifications, install xfce4-notifyd and/or remove notify-osd
[16:53] <Sysi> how is the volume indicator different?
[16:53] <henrylinux> ok
[16:53] <GridCube> henrylinux, try loguing in as guest
[16:53] <henrylinux> will post a screenshot in 1 min
[16:55] <henrylinux> Screenshot: http://imgur.com/UEUE9D3
[16:55] <henrylinux> this is not the one I had up until 1 hour ago or so
[16:55] <henrylinux> alright, so xfce4-notfyd is installed already...
[16:56] <henrylinux> ah, alright
[16:56] <henrylinux> "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xfce4-notifyd" it now looks the same
[16:56] <henrylinux> again
[16:57] <Sysi> remove notify-osd
[16:57] <henrylinux> ok did that
[16:58] <henrylinux> alright I will try to log in as guest
[16:58] <henrylinux> will be back later
[16:59] <GridCube> see if that fixes your settings, if it does then just remove the .config/xfce4 folder from your home
[17:00] <Sysi> I'm confident it's just the notification daemon
[17:00] <henrylinux> GridCube, it works again now
[17:00] <henrylinux> cool cool cool.
[17:01] <henrylinux> thank you!
[20:08] <xubuntu716> good evening...
[20:09] <xubuntu716> somehow a nvidia driver deleted the EDID fo the notebook screen. how to restore the EDID?
[20:11] <xubuntu716> anyone available for chatting?
[20:12] <bekks> A driver cannot delete an EDID, since the EDID is send by the display device.
[20:14] <xubuntu716> i found several post about the prop. nvidia driver deleted EDID.. i did some days of research to find out where the error
[20:14] <xubuntu716> is comning from
[20:14] <bekks> A driver cant delete the EDID.
[20:15] <xubuntu716> what do you think of this..http://pastebin.com/kRreTDas
[20:18] <bekks> How is that related to "the driver deleted the EDID"?
[20:19] <Sysi> do you actually have a problem with modesetting or something?
[20:21] <xubuntu716> i was reading tons of forums aso, and i found severel people writing about nvidia driver manipulated edid
[20:22] <xubuntu716> Xubuntu is giving errors
[20:22] <bekks> Which errors?
[20:22] <Sysi> if it works, don't fix it ;)
[20:22] <Sysi> my intel netbook has always given errors about edid
[20:23] <xubuntu716> http://pastebin.com/YANn2UDD this is Xorg.0.log
[20:24] <bekks> xubuntu716: For the last time: the driver isnt capable of modifying the EDID at all.
[20:24] <xubuntu716> ,-)
[20:25] <xubuntu716> any other ideas?
[20:27] <bekks> I havent read about a specific problem yet.
[20:27] <xubuntu716> and i cannot find an example by the moment
[20:28] <bekks> Well, without a specific problem we cant help you I guess.
[20:29] <xubuntu716> but there is something wrong with the edid or not?
[20:30] <bekks> No, why?
[21:48] <Romulus_> Hey folks. Making my fifth attempt to get an Ubuntu installation in without screwing it up. My problem is specifically getting AMD Catalyst drivers happening. Tried to achieve this 'manually' in terminal, keep wrecking my OS. Is there a safe way to get this right? Not sure about versions and compatibilities. Would greatly appreciate any guidance.
[21:56] <peyam> Romulus_, why dont u use the default open source one drivers?
[21:57] <peyam> and if you really want the AMD Cat you should fo to their website and choose ur modell and then install. sometimes it doesnt show anything on ur screen becouse AMD increase the resolution and your monitor may not show that resolution
[21:57] <Unit193> Romulus_: What about Settings Manager > Additional Drivers?
[21:58] <Romulus_> I'm not sure what is optimal. I have previously tried proprietary from the AMD website, thinking it would be most likely to succeed. It wiped out my last Xubuntu desktop.
[21:58] <Romulus_> ok, settings manager...I'll have a look at that.
[21:59] <peyam> Unit193, that option is not so good since the proportiy driver from AMD is not the last one and may couse problems
[21:59] <Romulus_> So you're recommending open source as more likely to succeed?
[22:00] <Unit193> Have you tried it?  The reason it's in there is because it's supposed to work with Ubuntu.  I didn't say to go to their website.
[22:02] <Romulus_> I saw on google that the screen wipeout is known in xubuntu, but found no coherent fix nor could understand the explanation of where the incompatibility lies.
[22:03] <Romulus_> I downloaded their latest beta and unzipped it, built some kind of package resulting in a .deb file, subsequently executed
[22:05] <Romulus_> train wreck. I think it works in other forms of Ubuntu...but My hardware seems to do better with Xubuntu, so I'm looking for a way
[22:05] <Romulus_> peyam, how do I get the open source versions?
[22:08] <peyam> it is inslaeed by default
[22:08] <peyam> if you go to setting>software sources > additional driver . one of them should be chosen
[22:08] <peyam> software & updates
[22:08] <peyam> sorry misspelled
[22:09] <Romulus_> ok, let me look there a sec
[22:13] <Romulus_> I'm totally confused. I don't see any mention of catalyst drivers in any of these
[22:13] <Romulus_> How can I set up my graphics card?
[22:14] <Romulus_> Sorry, new to this OS and pretty clueless, having been on Windows my whole life
[22:16] <peyam> the graphic driver is installed by default
[22:17] <peyam> catalyst is not a driver
[22:17] <peyam> it s controll panel for ur graphic card
[22:17] <peyam> if u see an aption chosen in the additional driver, that's ur driver
[22:17] <peyam> you dont need catalyst
[22:19] <Romulus_> How is my OS speaking to the graphics card without driver installation
[22:24] <peyam> Romulus_, it is installed. u havent notticed that
[22:24] <cub> Romulus_, there is a default driver
[22:24] <peyam> take a screenshot on ur Additional driver
[22:24] <peyam> linux is not like windows where u need to install everything manuelly
[22:40] <Romulus_> peyam, I'm sure u are right. Where can I view my hardware config?
[22:41] <elfy> in a terminal lsconfig
[22:41] <elfy> usb things - lsusb
[22:44] <Romulus_> lsconfig command not found
[22:47] <peyam> Romulus_, lspci
[22:47] <elfy> not at all sure where I got that from ... thanks peyam :)
[22:48] <Romulus_> thanks. got it.
[22:48] <elfy> sorry Romulus_
[22:48] <Romulus_> no problem
[22:49] <elfy> other than the obvious one here :)
[22:49] <Romulus_> the main problem is me demolishing my OS 4 times
[22:49] <Romulus_> lol
[22:49] <Romulus_> linux beginner
[22:50] <Romulus_> strager in a strange land
[22:50] <elfy> I installed 7.04 10 times in 2 weeks - such is life
[22:50] <Romulus_> lol
[22:50] <Romulus_> learning process
[22:50] <elfy> yep
[22:51] <peyam> Romulus_, if you wana see ur graphic card use lspci -v and look at VGA paragraph
[22:52] <peyam> I have 2 generation intel processor
[22:52] <peyam> time to get the 4th generation?
[22:54] <peyam> Romulus_, this is my desktop http://peyam30.deviantart.com/art/Devianart-426399676
[23:03] <Sysi> is there pulseaudio applet/indicator that lets you quickly select sound output device or can I make launchers with dbus commands or something?
[23:03] <knome> Sysi, pavucontrol lets you do that
[23:04] <Sysi> knome: it's not very handy
[23:05] <Sysi> maybe if I set wmctrl or devilspie to make pavucontrol window big enough ehwn I open it
[23:06] <knome> maybe
[23:06] <knome> i guess there are some cli commands as well for that
[23:06] <knome> Sysi, try pa[tab][tab]


[08:31] <SilverLion> aloha pAt_
[08:32] <pAt_> moin SilverLion
[18:49] <guest1877> hi..  i have a computer with lubuntu 14.04 on it, and for some reason it keeps crashing..  that is to say, it gets slow, and then the mouse cursor arrow gets stuck in one place on the screen, and the mouse is able to be moved around but the arrow is in one place
[18:51] <wxl> guest1877: what machine? what's running? if you look at the task manager, what's eating up your memory and/or cpu?
[18:52] <wxl> guest1877: also check to see what your disk space is like.
[18:54] <guest1877> wxl, thanks
[18:54] <guest1877> i will check that next
[18:55] <guest1877> it tends to happen when i am using the web browser
[18:55] <wxl> guest1877: which browser? and what resource does it affect/
[18:56]  * genii guesses Firefox+Flash
[18:56] <wxl> probably :)
[18:57] <guest1877> it has happenned both with firefox and chrome
[18:57] <wxl> some memory might fix up the issue
[18:57] <wxl> how much ram you have?
[18:57] <guest1877> it first happened when i went to my routers page in firefox
[18:57] <guest1877> 1gb ram
[18:57] <wxl> that should be a fairly decent amount. are you running anything else?
[19:11] <guest1877> wxl, what do you mean?
[19:12] <guest1877> program wise?
[19:12] <wxl> guest1877: what other programs are running?
[19:14] <guest1877> oh ok...  well, the problem first happened after a fresh install on lubuntu-14.04.  i just openned firefox up and went to my router's ip, and it happenned.  i decided to re download the iso and i made a new live usb, and did another fresh install...
[19:14] <guest1877> after which, it started happenning again, but this time i have running cairo dock, and using google chrome as the browser..
[19:14] <guest1877> i will go on there and try to re create the problem
[19:14] <guest1877> is there a way that i can give you the output?
[19:16] <wxl> !pastebin | guest1877
[19:16] <guest1877> wxl, i meant, how can i get the output, so i can give you the paste
[19:19] <wxl> guest1877: just provide the link here after pastebining it
[19:54] <guest1877> wxl, that is not what i mean...  what i am asking is, how can i obtain the output
[19:54] <guest1877> will dmesg suffice?
[19:55] <guest1877> i want to be able to have in text what happenned so that you or someone who knows more about this stuff can help me fix it and maybe tell me why its happenning
[19:55] <wxl> guest1877: syslog and dmesg is good if there are errors, but my guess is you're having resources depleted
[19:55] <wxl> you can try ps aux | head -1; ps aux | sort -rn +2 | head -10 and ps aux | head -1; ps aux | sort -rn +3 | head
[22:32] <acecipher> Hi, how can I get a monitor configuration that doesn't mirror my screen on all my displays?
[22:33] <silverlion> acecipher, install arandr and put the screens next to each other ;) then you exit clone mode
[22:34] <acecipher> Ah, arnandr is the module. Cool
[22:34] <wxl> silverlion: will it work without arandr?
[22:34] <acecipher> And the three are all next to one another. If only the middle one was shorter xP
[22:34] <wxl> like could you use xrandr itself?
[22:36] <acecipher> lxrandr doesn't have any options for it
[22:44] <acecipher> Hmmm now my vga isn't showing up.
[22:45] <acecipher> Or like, it says the monitor is active
[22:58] <acecipher> Okay so arandr shuts down my VGA for some reason whenever I apply things.
[22:58] <acecipher> It still shows up as an active monitor in xrandr though.
[23:04] <acecipher> Hmmmm
[23:05] <acecipher> They all have to be the same size vertically it seems
[23:05] <acecipher> Which os... bleh
[23:05] <acecipher> But two screens works without the VGA at full sizes.
[23:06] <acecipher> Or well, without either VGA or DVI.
[23:07] <acecipher> Well I have it working now.~