[12:12] <Linux_Galore> PsiKloPx: but in the case of kubuntu there is a universal one you can use
[12:13] <joe3k> thingy: and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31077 is my 66-saa7134-myir.rules
[12:13] <joe3k> thingy: i tried more alternatives, hence the comment there
[12:14] <PsiKloPx> I used http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg and it seemed to take care of the problem
[12:14] <joe3k> thingy: and lastly http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31078/ is udevinfo output; as i said if i mess up the rule it complains, so it should "see" the rule
[12:15] <thingy> joe3k: umm googling brought up this...which seems to have a rule already with instructions on how to use it: http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Generic_SAA7134_Card_Installation
[12:15] <thingy> joe3k: am just comparing your one with it
[12:15] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: still empty
[12:16] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: might be a region support problem
[12:16] <joe3k> thingy: hm thnx, i didn't google on generic saa7134 stuff, since i've actually no problems with saa7134 itself
[12:16] <joe3k> thingy: they're filtering on vendoer, but if i got it right name should do as well
[12:17] <thingy> joe3k: yep was thinking that filtering should work either way
[12:17] <thingy> oh no its intelikey! :-)
[12:18] <joe3k> thingy: one more, they're filtering on class/input/event, no /class/input/input, but i think i've tried that one already as well
[12:18] <intelikey> where ?
[12:18] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: ask in #kde
[12:18] <joe3k> intelikey: you're surely udev guru, aren't you :)
[12:19] <intelikey> i don't even like udev.
[12:19] <intelikey> what you need joe3k ?
[12:19] <sickd> hello
[12:19] <joe3k> so let it be, i'm trying to get that thing create one symlink for my ir
[12:19] <sickd> i upgraded to edgy
[12:19] <sickd> and the keyboard doesn't work
[12:20] <sickd> on XD
[12:20] <sickd> on X
[12:20] <sickd> kdm also
[12:20] <sickd> any idea?
[12:20] <intelikey> joe3k ir ?
[12:20] <joe3k> intelikey: yep
[12:20] <thingy> joe3k: btw, did you try "input*" ?
[12:20] <smaggard> hello ppl :D
[12:21] <sickd> why the keyboard doesn't work?
[12:21] <intelikey> ir ???  ingnorant russan ?
[12:21] <sickd> Xorg log says all ok
[12:21] <intelikey> :)
[12:21] <joe3k> thingy: i tried almost everything :) even BUS=="pci" and DRIVER=="saa7134"
[12:21] <sickd> kdm log too
[12:21] <thingy> sickd: usb keyb? or ps2
[12:21] <joe3k> intelikey: infrared
[12:21] <intelikey> joe3k ir what ?
[12:21] <sickd> thingy: a laptop keyboard
[12:21] <joe3k> intelikey: remote?
[12:21] <sickd> thingy: was working ok with dapper
[12:21] <thingy> sickd: whats the laptop make/model please
[12:22] <sickd> but now
[12:22] <sickd> :S
[12:22] <intelikey> ir com   or   ir lp ?
[12:22] <sickd> wait
[12:22] <joe3k> intelikey: ir saa7134 via tuner card
[12:22] <intelikey> ok.  let me look around now.
[12:22] <joe3k> intelikey: but shouldn't actually matter, i'm trying to create symlink for /dev/input/eventx node
[12:23] <sickd> thingy: how can i see the keyboard model?
[12:23] <sickd> thingy: it's a notebook
[12:23] <sickd> any command?
[12:24] <thingy> sickd: er i dont need keyboard model..just what the manufacturer of your laptop is and what the model number for the laptop is
[12:24] <joe3k> thingy: well it worked with the KERNEL and SYSFS{vendor} for /class/input/event3
[12:24] <campbch> has anyone used or know how to set up compiz?
[12:24] <thingy> joe3k: so...problem solved then?
[12:24] <intelikey> joe3k but the module loaded should make the device/s via a udev call.
[12:24] <joe3k> thingy: but the SYSFS{vendor} is actually not displayed in uderinfo for /class/input/event3
[12:24] <sickd> thingy: compaq presarion v2000
[12:25] <joe3k> intelikey: i want one more link
[12:25] <sickd> thingy: compaq presario v2000*
[12:25] <joe3k> intelikey: i have usb joystick and sometimes the order gets messed up
[12:25] <joe3k> intelikey: and if i instruct lircd to read the events from the wrong interface sometimes my mouse/joy stop working
[12:25] <intelikey> joe3k if all you want is an added symlink in /dev  just pitch a command in /etc/rc.local to create it at each boot time.
[12:26] <joe3k> well ok i want to go the smart way :)
[12:26] <pacman> Anyone know how to overclock my video card?  I've got a Radeon 9550
[12:26] <joe3k> this is ridiculous
[12:27] <intelikey> joe3k you know how to make the link don't you ?
[12:28] <joe3k> intelikey: i do :)
[12:28] <joe3k> but udev is kinda weird
[12:28] <joe3k> at least for me now :)
[12:28] <intelikey> yep.  and you can edit things in /dev and reboot and it's right back to default.
[12:28] <pacman> Anyone know how to overclock my video card?  I've got a Radeon 9550
[12:29] <joe3k> intelikey: that's the reason why i want the rule
[12:29] <intelikey> thats why i don't like udev.
[12:30] <intelikey> joe3k when things are working correctly what all ir* modules are loaded ?  lsmod
[12:30] <campbch> or XGL for that matter
[12:30] <sickd> any solution to my problem?
[12:30] <joe3k> intelikey: this is not the problem
[12:31] <joe3k> intelikey: in lircd you have to say which /dev/input/eventX you want to use as input
[12:31] <p_> hi
[12:31] <pacman> anyone?
[12:31] <joe3k> intelikey: and from time to time the order in /dev/input/eventX changes, so once my mouse is 2, ir 3, joy 4 the other time ir2, mouse 3, joy 4
[12:32] <minijerk> oi
[12:32] <minijerk> alguem do brasil aqui nessa parada?
[12:32] <joe3k> intelikey: and if i configure lircd to use /dev/input/event3 my mouse stops working if after some reboot the mouse gets event3
[12:32] <thor> hello all
[12:32] <joe3k> thingy: now it works
[12:32] <joe3k> thingy: seems i've chosen the wrong device :-E
[12:33] <joe3k> thingy: ie instead of /class/input/inputX i need /class/input/eventX
[12:33] <joe3k> don't know what's the real difference though
[12:33] <thor> i have a few things that i am trying to learn to install , the scripts all come back as failed, redhat-config not setup or something to this effect
[12:34] <thingy> joe3k: ah ok. great that it works. onto the next thing now! :-) make sure you backup the rules and setup info so you wont have to experiment again in the future
[12:34] <joe3k> thingy: thanks for your help
[12:35] <thingy> joe3k: google did the work...i just typed in the query
[12:35] <joe3k> anyway when does that pastebin stuff get deleted
[12:35] <joe3k> thingy: as usual ;-)
[12:35] <thingy> joe3k: usually after some inactive period...
[12:35] <joe3k> i try to google as well but i didn't google for saa7134 :)
[12:36] <joe3k> *tried*
[12:36] <thor> try ask.com , sometimes better results
[12:37] <thingy> thor: your statement about things youre trying to install didnt make sense....what were you trying to install ? describe the problem
[12:38] <thor> ok hold on and i will try again to explain better i hope
[12:38] <intelikey> well the installer is hanging after language selection.
[12:39] <intelikey> lts live installer just sitting there.......
[12:39] <Werdnum> Does OpenVPN not love edgy?
[12:39] <Werdnum> It installs fine for me, but no tun/tap adapter is created.
[12:39] <thor> the program im trying to install is called "pyvoice", it's for gyach , a chat client that has voice
[12:41] <intelikey> wow i took the disk out to wipe it off in case it was dusty    it's way hot.
[12:42] <joe3k> thor: and what does it complain about?
[12:42] <joe3k> intelikey: hotswap? ;-)
[12:42] <joe3k> intelikey: or p'n'n in a new dimension
[12:42] <thingy> thor: look at this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177081&highlight=pyvoice  to see how to install pyvoice + gyach easily in *ubuntu
[12:42] <joe3k> pnp
[12:44] <thor> ok , thanks , i will try that
[12:44] <intelikey> but the thing that really pisses me off is the box has windows xp on it....
[12:44] <pacman> Anyone know how to overclock my video card?  I've got a Radeon 9550
[12:45] <whtwolf> does anyone know which works better for laptops, edgy or dapper?
[12:45] <mzli> whtwolf: dapper is better.
[12:45] <intelikey> whtwolf edgy is the latest dapper is the LTS
[12:45] <intelikey> !lts
[12:45] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[12:46] <glimmung> what do I do if kubuntu 6.10 live cd wont start X?
[12:46] <thingy> pacman: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91108&highlight=overclock+ati   <--- Youre on your own if it screws that hardware...nobody else is responsibile!
[12:46] <mzli> glimmung: it shouldnt.
[12:46] <glimmung> i know
[12:47] <glimmung> but it acts like it tries to start x, but then boots me back out to cmmandline, user cant startx, and no root password
[12:47] <glimmung> i checked disk for errors, its fine
[12:47] <mzli> glimmung: You boot it from livecd?
[12:47] <glimmung> yes, but live cd wont start x
[12:47] <glimmung> just commandline
[12:47] <joe3k> mzli: have you tried edgy on laptop?
[12:48] <intelikey> no there is not a root passwd  nor is there a passwd for ubuntu  the  default user  which is root jr.    sudo -i
[12:48] <whtwolf> odd question, should I install ubuntu the do a sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or just install kubuntu from a cd?
[12:48] <joe3k> mzli: i'm considering to update my friend's to edgy
[12:48] <mzli> joe3k: No, never.
[12:48] <joe3k> mzli: so how do you know dapper is better for laptops
[12:48] <thingy> whtwolf: kubuntu from cd..why would you want to do it the first way?
[12:48] <thingy> whtwolf: unless you wanted both ubuntu(gnome) and kubuntu(kde) on the same box
[12:49] <mzli> joe3k: 1.edgy is not stable. 2. update are too much risky
[12:49] <intelikey> !sudo | glimmung
[12:49] <ubotu> glimmung: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:49] <whtwolf> I have edgy installed on my laptop right now and it seems to work ok but I did a dist-upgrade from dapper so that I could install easy ubuntu first
[12:49] <joe3k> mzli: hmm don't know edgy has at least newer stuff like kernel, alsa etc which is important for new laptops
[12:50] <joe3k> i had to hack into alsa support for the laptop's sc
[12:50] <joe3k> the lid switch is not working right, acpid flooding the logs, it can be better only with never kernel releases i think
[12:51] <mzli> joe3k: I've met some person installed edgy on laptop, then the computer are broken.
[12:51] <mzli> joe3k: of course, this will not happen to all laps.
[12:52] <whtwolf> edgy seem ok to me on a laptop but I cant get easy ubuntu to work with edgy :(
[12:52] <mzli> joe3k: but its more risky. No need to risky.
[12:52] <joe3k> well but it's true that edgy broke a lot of stuff
[12:54] <joe3k> bye
[12:55] <thor> im out guy's , thanks for the help thingy ;) much neede it was :))
[12:55] <whtwolf> is there a way to install the restricted w32 drivers other than using easy ubuntu?
[12:56] <intelikey> there's always a way whtwolf the question is   how hard would it be....
[12:56] <thingy> thor: np c ya
[12:57] <intelikey> and that i can't really answer.    w32 driver for what ?
[12:57] <thingy> whtwolf: you can get the svn version of easy ubuntu which seems to be a release candidate for edgy....i just read a couple of threads about it
[12:57] <thingy> whtwolf: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273956&highlight=easyubuntu+edgy  <-- Paul.O's reply in the thread
[12:58] <thingy> intelikey: he means the win32 codecs
[12:58] <Authority_laptop> where is the keycode to keysym mapping done?  My right ALT key is mapped to something bizarre.
[12:59] <sorush20> hi I keep getting computer freezes could somsomeone help me firgure it out why? pentium 4 3.ghx 2.6gb ram sis motherboards kubuntu edgy kernel 386
[12:59] <intelikey> ah yeah there are other ways    i have installed them but never seen/used "easy ubuntu"
[01:00] <intelikey> sorush20 shouldn't you be using the 686 kernel ?
[01:00] <intelikey> i know that shouldn't hang it but....
[01:01] <thingy> Authority_laptop: launch kcontrol, select Regional & Accessibility, Xkb options tab...
[01:01] <glimmung> well its official, the kubuntu cd does not work for me, keeps giving the no screens found error
[01:01] <intelikey> did the hoary install disk not have gparted on it ?
[01:01] <thingy> glimmung: laptop/desktop?
[01:01] <glimmung> desktop
[01:01] <thingy> glimmung: manufacturer and model ?
[01:01] <glimmung> dell 4100
[01:01] <thingy> glimmung: graphics card in the desktop
[01:02] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: I'm staring at default freshly installed kubuntu and you were right; keyboard layouts are there cause this time I installed with option "us english keyboard"
[01:02] <glimmung> i beleive its nvidia
[01:02] <thingy> glimmung: right they should work out of the box...do you know the model?
[01:02] <sorush20> well there isn't that kernel in the repositories
[01:02] <sorush20> intelikey:
[01:02] <glimmung> no I dont
[01:02] <glimmung> i know its 128 bit
[01:03] <intelikey> glimmung   grep -ie driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:03] <sorush20> is 480 Mbits/s 60Mbyte/s?
[01:03] <glimmung> nvidia
[01:03] <thingy> glimmung: also is this a dell dimensions 4100 ?
[01:03] <glimmung> yes it is
[01:04] <intelikey> glimmung hmmmm might try something generic there
[01:04] <glimmung> what do you mean?
[01:04] <intelikey> glimmung well if i can think of it i'll tell you.
[01:05] <glimmung> so is this an nvidia driver problem? or my model is not supported?
[01:05] <intelikey> that three letter thing that means what windows used to do for vidio.....
[01:05] <thingy> glimmung: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268927&highlight=dell+dimension+4100   sigh..actually a lot of people are having problems with the dell dimension 4100 in the ubuntuforums...can you try installing via the alternate cd please
[01:05] <glimmung> vga?
[01:05] <glimmung> whats the alternate cd?
[01:05] <glimmung> the non live one?
[01:06] <sorush20> hi here is the list of usb devices I have I don't know if my usb two is working proprely or not
[01:06] <sorush20> 00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  USB 1.0 Controller (rev 0f) 00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  USB 1.0 Controller (rev 0f) 00:03.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  USB 2.0 Controller
[01:07] <intelikey> glimmung vesa
[01:07] <intelikey> sorry four letters.... :)
[01:07] <thingy> glimmung: its called the Alternate CD here's a url http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/edgy/
[01:07] <intelikey> glimmung you might try using vesa vidio driver    if that don't work alternate CD  ^
[01:08] <glimmung> so I pass vga=vesa to grub or what?
[01:08] <smaggard> change /etc/X11/xorg.conf driver to vesa :D
[01:08] <sorush20> I have nothing attached to the ehci
[01:09] <glimmung> well then what about when I want to get the nvidia drivers later?
[01:09] <klerfayt> is #kubuntu appropriate for asking questions about kernel modules_
[01:09] <smaggard> change it from vesa to nvidia
[01:09] <glimmung> i just dont understand how I can change the config on a live cd
[01:09] <smaggard> oo
[01:09] <smaggard> im not sure about thatlol
[01:10] <intelikey> glimmung no you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change nvidia to vesa  save    and startx
[01:10] <Authority_laptop> thanks thingy, got it figured out
[01:10] <glimmung> dont I have to be root to edit the xorg.conf?
[01:10] <smaggard> yes do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:10] <Hobbsee> klerfayt: you can try
[01:10] <glimmung> ok
[01:10] <intelikey> glimmung you are root jr.  use the force.    sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:11] <klerfayt> Hobbsee: if I boot then modules load right? e.g. "psmouse"
[01:11] <Hobbsee> klerfayt: at some point, yes
[01:11] <thingy> The live cd is more trouble than its worth....nothing at all wrong with the alternate cd install. imo. bah
[01:12] <intelikey> prolly most of them in the initramfs.img klerfayt
[01:12] <klerfayt> Hobbsee: as we know psmouse rate is 80 - my question is if it is possible to change config file so that rate=40 _
[01:12] <intelikey> thingy i concour
[01:12] <smaggard> to load modules just add them to /etc/modules
[01:13] <thingy> klerfayt: change the rate in xorg or on the command line (gpm) ?
[01:13] <kkathman> hey Hobbsee :)
[01:13] <klerfayt> thingy: if you mean psmouse.rate=40 in grub then sadly it is not recognized
[01:13] <thingy> klerfayt: or are you saying that the module itself has a rate parameter which can be set
[01:14] <klerfayt> thingy: default rate is 80 I want it to be 40
[01:14] <klerfayt> thingy: one way to do it is sudo rm -r psmouse and then sudo psmouse rate=40
[01:14] <intelikey> sounds like an xorg.conf issue
[01:14] <Hobbsee> hey kkathman!!!
[01:15] <Hobbsee> klerfayt: usually in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, maybe?
[01:15] <klerfayt> these things can't be changed in xorg.conf
[01:15] <intelikey> kcontrol can change the rate of mouse movement cant it
[01:16] <klerfayt> nono this is not same
[01:16] <thingy> klerfayt: add a line in /etc/modules saying "psmouse rate=40" (no speech mark of course) and the module will honour this parameter whenever its loaded
[01:16] <klerfayt> thingy: I tried that it was still 80
[01:16] <intelikey> what rate is this  you are talking about sample rate not movement rate   ?
[01:16] <klerfayt> intelikey: module option
[01:17] <intelikey> yeah 40 per second
[01:17] <intelikey> ok
[01:17] <ruisu> hey, hi you all :),  im haveing a problem witha newly created user: there is no audio hardware :S
[01:17] <ruisu> does anybody knows why is this?
[01:18] <intelikey> klerfayt look into /etc/modprob.d/options
[01:18] <klerfayt> thingy: oops I tried it with /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[01:18] <intelikey> i think you can set it there.
[01:18] <klerfayt> thingy: maybe that is why it was still 80
[01:18] <thingy> klerfayt: it should be /etc/modules
[01:19] <thingy> klerfayt: i was wondering why that would not work
[01:19] <klerfayt> thingy: ok I'm going to try /etc/modules ; but psmouse isn't there (it is in aliases)
[01:19] <ruisu> no body? :S
[01:19] <intelikey> thingy ubuntu doesn't by default have a /etc/modules   it can use it but /etc/modprobe.d/'files'  is what it defaults to.
[01:20] <thingy> klerfayt: you don't need it in aliases...just a line in /etc/modules saying psmouse rate=40
[01:20] <thingy> intelikey: oh right...yeah I had created my one for my sound card
[01:20] <intelikey> and as i said   it can use /etc/modules
[01:20] <thingy> intelikey/klerfayt: then i dont know why it didnt work if it was in modprobe.d
[01:20] <zeeo> hey guys i'm trying to unrar a file with kubuntu 6.10
[01:21] <zeeo> and i can't get ark to work
[01:21] <zeeo> with rar
[01:21] <ruisu> zeeo: you need to install unrar
[01:21] <smaggard> will ark unrar a file?
[01:21] <klerfayt> thingy: it didn\t work bacause I tried /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[01:21] <intelikey> thingy cause options rather than aliases  maybe ?
[01:21] <zeeo> onec i install
[01:21] <smaggard> i thinkonly unrar will
[01:21] <ruisu> in adept, search for "unrar" and there you go ;)
[01:21] <zeeo> how can i make
[01:21] <zeeo> ark
[01:21] <zeeo> cuz ark says it can't find unrar
[01:21] <klerfayt> what is max. value of psmouse rate=?
[01:21] <thingy> intelikey/klerfayt: ah...dang am not following the conv properly
[01:21] <ruisu> that means you dont have installed unrar
[01:22] <thingy> ruisu: is the user a member of the audio group ?
[01:22] <intelikey> !unrar-free
[01:22] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[01:22] <ruisu> no , right now no, is that the issue?
[01:22] <intelikey> zeeo ^
[01:22] <thingy> ruisu: i dont know...can you explain the problem...did you mean that the problem is that one user...who is newly created..does not get access to sound hardware...but other users can?
[01:22] <zeeo> ya i installed that
[01:23] <zeeo> one
[01:23] <zeeo> 1 sec let me tell you what ark says
[01:23] <zeeo> when i try to unrar
[01:24] <intelikey> file-roller / ark   should be able to use it...  you may have to tell ark where it is.
[01:24] <ruisu> thingy: i, ruisu, can use audio harware normaly, but ive created a new user, that new user cant handle audio, kmix cant find audio hardware
[01:24] <columbo197> hi -- I just upgraded to edgy from dapper, and now when I boot and log into kde, the KDE status window (where it is initializing components) goes black and my aplications are all starting, but immediately become "invisible" -- I can see them flash onto the window each time their display updates and then they immediately go away. I can see my desktop wallpaper. any idea around this?
[01:25] <thingy> ruisu:  ok then yes...it could be that the new user is not a member of the audio group...to check..log in as the user...type in groups and see if it says audio in the list
[01:26] <thingy> columbo197: have you rebooted the machine after the upgrade?
[01:26] <ruisu> hingy: yes, :P it wanst a member of the audio group :P i just added the new user to that group, i hoope that helps :)
[01:26] <intelikey> columbo197 you don't want my idea about it....
[01:26] <columbo197> thingy: yes, I rebooted
[01:26] <thingy> ruisu: try and make the groups the same for the user so that you dont get other problems like not being able to access cdrw etc.
[01:26] <ruisu> mhm :) just did that :P
[01:27] <ruisu> so
[01:27] <ruisu> thanks :)
[01:27] <tobias_> how do i run a bin installation file?
[01:27] <thingy> ruisu: log off and on for change to take effect and np
[01:27] <tobias_> !bin
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <tobias_> !install binfiles
[01:27] <thingy> tobias_: chmod u+x filename.bin; ./filename.bin
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install binfiles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <tobias_> aha
[01:27] <tobias_> thanx
[01:27] <intelikey> tobias_ chmod 555 file.bin ; ./file.bin
[01:27] <tobias_> hmm
[01:28] <tobias_> which one?
[01:28] <ruisu> umm, ok, so how can make the new user a sudoer?
[01:28] <thingy> ruisu: add to the admin group
[01:28] <tobias_> Im trying to install planeshift
[01:28] <ruisu> and done??
[01:28] <thingy> ruisu: yep
[01:28] <ruisu> woot :) thanks thingy :D
[01:28] <ruisu> good bye :)
[01:28] <thingy> bye
[01:28] <intelikey> you asked how to exec a bin    chmod it and exec it
[01:29] <columbo197> I thnk I found a workaround just now --- I've got a dual monitor setup. I booted the machine wihtout the second monitor everything came up fine. I think it's because I was using the official nvidia kernel and it never got along with the fading stuff that the new version of kde likes to use
[01:29] <thingy> tobias_: follow these instructions...answers your question i think: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=289854&highlight=planeshift
[01:30] <tobias_> its working ! :D'
[01:30] <tobias_> thingy: your thingy worked
[01:30] <tobias_> thanx!'
[01:30] <thingy> my thingys always worked! :-)
[01:33] <tobias_> is cedega only 7mb big?
[01:35] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[01:35] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:36] <intelikey> da
[01:36] <thingy> you mean "ja"
[01:36] <thingy> da = russian i think
[01:37] <intelikey> tov ja
[01:37] <columbo197> How do I disable the default window fading effects in the new version of kubuntu?
[01:38] <tobias_> how do I upgrade my version of kubuntu to the new version?
[01:38] <intelikey> !upgrade | tobias_
[01:38] <ubotu> tobias_: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[01:38] <tobias_> aha!
[01:38] <tobias_> thanx
[01:39] <klerfayt> columbo197: window does not fade in edgy by default
[01:39] <thingy> columbo197: umm by default it doesnt do compwiz type stuff in kde....so again could this be something to do with your old config?
[01:39] <Grigorgeous> which package must I install to unrar  rar archives?
[01:39] <thingy> columbo197: to disable compwiz, disable the Composite extension in xorg.conf or just comment the line out
[01:40] <intelikey> !unrar | Grigorgeous
[01:40] <ubotu> Grigorgeous: unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[01:41] <thingy> pacman_: overclocked it already?
[01:41] <ubuntu_> hi all
[01:41] <columbo197> sorry.. answered my own question again. they moved where a lot of the controls are now. It's under System Seettings > Window Behavior > Translucency > Translucency.   I'll just have to learn how to be more patient in my looking for answers :-)
[01:42] <intelikey> my aint you special
[01:43] <ubuntu_> my friend any one can tell me how can i connect to undernet server
[01:44] <intelikey>  /server irc.servername.ext
[01:44] <intelikey> depending on the client.   click the menu and select new server
[01:46] <ubuntu_> thanx intelikey
[01:47] <intelikey> np
[01:48] <FuzzplugJones> hello, longtime (10 years) linux server admin trying Ubuntu on my HP Pavilion zv6130us notebook for the first time.
[01:49] <FuzzplugJones> i think i've installed ndiswrapper correctly and pointed it to my driver, ndiswrapper -l says "bcmwl5          driver installed, hardware (14E4:4324) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)"
[01:50] <FuzzplugJones> it creates wlan0 and eth1, however eth1 didn't come up forever until i ran wrieless assistant which actually seemes to have turned my radio on
[01:50] <FuzzplugJones> yet it returns "no networks found" even though i have a (currently) wide open no encryption AP in the house.
[01:51] <FuzzplugJones> iwlist scan also returns "eth1 no scan results"
[01:51] <FuzzplugJones> can anyone help me?
[01:54] <intelikey> !wifi | FuzzplugJones
[01:54] <ubotu> FuzzplugJones: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:54] <intelikey> that's the best i can do....
[01:54] <mzli> #ubuntu+1
[01:55] <intelikey> eeeek
[01:55] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  lsmod
[01:55] <intelikey> Opening /proc/modules: No such file or directory
[01:55] <FuzzplugJones> hmm
[01:55] <intelikey> and proc is mounted...
[01:55] <xsacha> lol
[01:57] <intelikey> oh yeah.... i forgeted
[01:57] <intelikey> FATAL: Error inserting ide_cd (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-cd.ko): Kernel does not have module support
[01:57] <intelikey> i didn't build in module support.
[01:57] <intelikey> hope i have all i need in it...
[01:59] <klerfayt> I'm so happy; /etc/modprobe.d/options worked!
[02:00] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  mkdir /boot  ; lilo ; rm -fr /boot
[02:00] <intelikey> klerfayt sssh don't tell thingy
[02:01] <klerfayt> intelikey: pmouse max value is 200 ?
[02:02] <intelikey> ooops there's the problem.   i hope that disk accepts another session...  /dev/hdd              362K  362K     0 100% /mnt/cdrom
[02:02] <intelikey> klerfayt 200 or 250    sounds right.
[02:02] <klerfayt> what happens if I set it to 500_
[02:03] <intelikey> it wont load  OR will load with defaults.
[02:03] <intelikey> depends on kernel settings
[02:03] <intelikey> knowing ubuntu prolly will load with defaults
[02:03] <klerfayt> intelikey: can I fry hardware with linux kernel?
[02:04] <intelikey> yep
[02:04] <intelikey> but not easily
[02:05] <intelikey> "if you let the smoke out of those electronic deallies, they wont work no more.   conclusion; all elextronics run on smoke."
[02:06] <intelikey> s/x/c/
[02:17] <will__> hi all
[02:17] <will__> kubuntu doesnt have gkrellm?
[02:19] <ismael_> Hello. I just upgraded my Nvidia drivers to the beta version... I'm having trouble with the screen resfresh rate. When kdm loads it's fine (looks like 85Hz), but when my session starts, something happens and it goes to a whole 57Hz (at 1024x768, ie: NOT pretty). Using the Nvidia utility I can change the refresh back to 85Hz, but if I log out and in again, the setting's gone! Any idea of what's going on?
[02:20] <will__> ok this may be an awkward question, but where do I get libdvdcss from?
[02:21] <Aondo> ismael_  what version of nvidia was that?
[02:21] <wildchild> what do I have to do in firefox that when I would click on an m3u link amarok will open
[02:21] <jbrouhard> !restrictedformats
[02:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:22] <jbrouhard> that'll help, will
[02:22] <ismael_> Aondo, let me check
[02:22] <xsacha> !libdvdcss2
[02:22] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:22] <xsacha> !libdvdcss2 edgy
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libdvdcss2 edgy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <xsacha> it's in adept here
[02:22] <ismael_> Aondo: 1.0.9629
[02:22] <xsacha> !gkrellm
[02:22] <ubotu> gkrellm: The GNU Krell Monitors. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.9-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 733 kB, installed size 2060 kB
[02:24] <will__> well no gkrellm packages are showing up in adept manager
[02:24] <Aondo> ismael_  i kinda have the same thing, kde only detects like 50 or 55hz, but the monitor tells me it is 75hz :D so i dont care with it hehe, but anyway, that driver isnt beta.
[02:25] <wildchild> n the gnome configuration you'll find a section where you specify what program to use for each MIME type  ---> where can I find gnome settings??
[02:25] <Aondo> ismael_  maybe a idea to remove the monitor settings you dont need, in xorg.conf and only go for the ones you want
[02:25] <ismael_> Aondo: Oh, I thought it was still in beta. KDE detects max 57Hz... And I can tell it's really 57Hz it's showing me...
[02:26] <ismael_> Aondo: but the screen refresh settings are... hard to get right :S
[02:28] <Ahmuck> is there a way to set admin user without having to use sudo for every command ?
[02:28] <ismael_> Ahmuck: sudo -i
[02:28] <ismael_> Ahmuck: hit enter, it will ask your password, and then you're root
[02:28] <ismael_> Ahmuck: use "exit" to go back to normal user
[02:28] <Ahmuck> thx
[02:28] <Ahmuck> that works great
[02:29] <ismael_> Aondo: so, maybe putting higher lower settings will help?
[02:29] <Ahmuck> !repositories
[02:29] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:29] <Ahmuck> auto repositories ?
[02:29] <Ahmuck> i know there is a repository confiugratior
[02:30] <Aondo> ismael_  actually, my monitor aswell is showing only 60hz now :P
[02:30] <ismael_> Aondo: That ain't nice :S
[02:31] <ismael_> Aondo: unless it's a lcd... then... you just don't care
[02:31] <Aondo> ismael_  yes it is lcd, but i care :D
[02:31] <Aondo> i want 75 hehe
[02:32] <ismael_> Aondo: I don't think lcd screens care much about resolution
[02:35] <Oellinas> hello
[02:37] <Oellinas> i need to know one thing. I tried to copy files on an external hard disk with NTFS using the NTFS-3g driver and the time it took was really long. is it normal or it's something wrong with my pc
[02:37] <Oellinas> i am using kubuntu edgy
[02:42] <Hawkwind> Oellinas: That's not something we support, since Linux doesn't support writing to NTFS without data loss most of the time
[02:43] <pi1l> can anybody please tell me. how do i read 8-th number in 5th line in a file, remember, that it is parameter #1, and multiply it by 2 in cpp?
[02:43] <Oellinas> i see. do u know if the ntfs-3g project has somewhere a irc channel?
[02:44] <Hawkwind> Oellinas: /msg chanserv list *ntfs*
[02:44] <Oellinas> thanks you very much
[02:46] <Hawkwind> Oellinas: No problems
[02:49] <Hawkwind> !ntfs > Hawkwind
[02:50] <wildchild> is in kubuntu repos any similar program like virutal DJ or tractor ?
[02:51] <Hawkwind> wildchild: apt-cache search dj or tractor
[02:53] <wildchild> Hawkwind: desert :S
[02:54] <Aondo> ismael_  did you dind anything out? :) im working on it aswell hehe
[02:54] <ismael_> Aondo: Yes, I found it
[02:54] <ismael_> #Option         "metamodes" "1024x768_85 +0+0; 1024x768 +0+0; 800x600 +0+0; 640x480 +0+0"
[02:54] <ismael_> this was the bad line
[02:54] <ismael_> in xorg.conf
[02:55] <ismael_> I don't know what it does
[02:55] <ismael_> but, as far as I know... it breaks my kde :P
[02:55] <ismael_> so it's out!
[02:56] <Aondo> it is probly a bad line becaus of 1024x768_85 dont think it should be a underline there
[02:56] <ismael_> Aondo: Maybe... I don't have a clue, never seen that thing before
[02:57] <Aondo> hehe
[02:58] <Aondo> i didnt notice this problem becaus i got a lcd monitor hehe, but its the same for me as for you, befor i log in i got 75hz but inside the session i get 60hz, probly just a config file somewhere :P
[02:58] <Aondo> some how i dont think it is xorg.conf
[02:59] <Aondo> anyone with inputs?
[02:59] <ismael_> But can you see the difference?
[03:00] <Aondo> no, but on another monitor i would have, just like you do.
[03:00] <ismael_> yeah, but as I said before, I don't think refresh rate really matters for Lcds
[03:01] <ismael_> if I remember correctly, my mother's lcd specifically said it was to be set at 60Hz for "best viewing"
[03:07] <Lam_> does anyone else but me have a problem with the panel tray icons constantly resetting into a one-row formation?  (panel is at 48px, but when the tray icons go into one row, i have to raise it to 52px, and back to 48px to get it back into two rows)
[03:08] <Aondo> ismael_ i created a new user, instead of recreating my own, to login on the new user instead, and my hz is now still 75hz
[03:08] <Aondo> so... there are clearly some config files in your home directory :D
[03:09] <Aondo> i have no clue where :/
[03:09] <ismael_> Aondo: oh. That's wierd
[03:10] <ismael_> Aondo: me neither...
[03:19] <Ahmuck> is there a way to remove kde groupware wizard ?
[03:19] <Ahmuck> i also want to remove kinfo center
[03:21] <Dr_willis> is there a program to manage cell phone phonebooks under linux? wife is getting hers all messed up.
[03:23] <thomas> i try to go to add/remove programs in the kmenu and it pops up with this error message saying "Su returned with an error." can anybody help me, please and thank you :)
[03:24] <ubuntu_> hi
[03:24] <Ahmuck> hi ubuntu_
[03:25] <ubuntu_> im trying to install edgy on a HD with dapper already. when the install ask me about partitions, i only can format, delete and properties
[03:25] <ubuntu_> so, i cant resize. whats the problem?
[03:25] <ubuntu_> i need to split the HD into 2 partitions :(
[03:27] <ubuntu_> can someone help me please?
[03:28] <campbch> ello
[03:29] <campbch> has anyone had problems with opengl screensavers and been able to fix them? i have the display drivers, and they are installed, but the screensavers are only showing on the top half of the screen
[03:29] <campbch> this isnt happening anywhere else in any other form of opengl
[03:36] <Norther_> hi all, can any one please help me in installing kubuntu?
[03:37] <campbch> i might be able to
[03:38] <campbch> noone else is around :p
[03:38] <campbch> unless there are flames
[03:38] <campbch> then i cant do much :(
[03:38] <Norther_> my problem is that it stops doing anything while loading the live cd stuff
[03:39] <Norther_> so i chose "start or install kubuntu" and i works for a few minutes than a blank screen appears and its done
[03:40] <campbch> done? as in, does it start on boot?
[03:40] <campbch> are you able to load the live cd?
[03:41] <Norther_> it boots from the cd...then a list appears on which the firt element is "start or install kubuntu", i chose that
[03:41] <campbch> alright...
[03:41] <Norther_> this is as far as i can get
[03:41] <campbch> try it on another computer
[03:41] <campbch> it doesn't change anything permanently
[03:41] <campbch> and you need to see if its the disk
[03:42] <Norther_> i have only two computers, on the second one it does nearly the same
[03:42] <campbch> the chances of it not working on two computers are quite slim, because compatability issues are pretty sparse
[03:42] <campbch> alright, have you tried re-burning the image?
[03:42] <campbch> or is it a retail cd?
[03:43] <Norther_> yes...and i tried the "chech cd for defects" menupoint and it said it's ok
[03:43] <Norther_> sorry, what is retail?
[03:43] <Norther_> i mean what does taht mean:)
[03:43] <campbch> retail as in, sent to you via shipit
[03:43] <Norther_> no, i downloaded it
[03:43] <campbch> retail in this sense, provided by the distro
[03:44] <campbch> is there a "safe mode" option for the startup?
[03:44] <Norther_> yes, but does the same
[03:44] <campbch> hmm
[03:44] <campbch> does it give any messages? if it starts loading, it should say at least something
[03:44] <Norther_> may it be the video-card?
[03:44] <Norther_> well...
[03:45] <brownedwg89> try the alternate cd
[03:45] <campbch> it hadn't done anything with the videocard at that point
[03:45] <campbch> generally if it says something and freezes after it says it, that thing caused the problems
[03:45] <Norther_> first the progress-bar goes left-right-left... about 30 times, and then a new progressbar fills up...and then comes the blank screen
[03:46] <campbch> hmm
[03:47] <campbch> it should say booting the kernel
[03:47] <campbch> loading drivers, mounting filesystem
[03:47] <campbch> does it say any of that?
[03:49] <Norther_> after pressing enter on "start or install" it says something like that and dots appear continously, as i remember it says something about loading kernel...this is before the progressbar appears
[03:49] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[03:49] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:49] <campbch> hummm
[03:49] <campbch> and the progress bar doesn't say anything specific?
[03:50] <Norther_> no
[03:50] <campbch> :o
[03:50] <campbch> i would ignore the disk saying the disk is good, and burn another just to be sure
[03:50] <campbch> they cost 50cents, it might solve your problem
[03:50] <Norther_> it's on an rw:)
[03:51] <campbch> hmm
[03:51] <campbch> well
[03:52] <Norther_> whats the difference between desktop version and amd64 (os something like that) version?
[03:52] <Dark_Vampire> hello
[03:52] <Dark_Vampire> how do i change the user and how my root password?
[03:52] <campbch> they are for different processor architectures
[03:53] <campbch> i havent had much experience with 64s, but there might be a difference
[03:53] <Norther_> i tried the adm 64 (because i have amd athlon 64 processor...) may that be the problem?
[03:54] <campbch> does the other computer have the same processor?
[03:54] <Norther_> no
[03:54] <campbch> you said
[03:54] <Norther_> :)
[03:54] <campbch> "nearly the same" with the other one, what exactly happens?
[03:54] <Norther_> well...
[03:55] <Norther_> on the other one it stops while the progress bar goes back and forth
[03:55] <Norther_> it freezes or something...
[03:55] <Dark_Vampire> how do i change the user and how my root password?
[03:56] <phil_> are you wanting to setup a root user
[03:56] <Ahmuck> sudo passwd root
[03:56] <Ahmuck> phil_: can you set up a default root user ?
[03:57] <phil_> yes
[03:57] <Ahmuck> admin something ...
[03:57] <phil_> no root
[03:57] <Norther_> and...brownedwg89 said i should try alternate cd, what is that for?
[03:57] <Ahmuck> how
[03:57] <campbch> alternate cd is another way to do things, that works on computers that cant use the other cd
[03:58] <phil_> you can enable it in the user management under system settings (kde)
[03:59] <flaccid> where to find help on dual head for ati radeon?
[03:59] <campbch> you can use that if you find that the other cd is good
[04:00] <campbch> but not for your system, you see what i mean?
[04:01] <Norther_> yes...but it installs the same, right? it differs only in how it installs?
[04:03] <campbch> you'd have to look it up
[04:03] <campbch> i used the other one, sorry :(
[04:03] <campbch> i'm sure it's reasonably self-explanatory, but it might "just work" more so than the other cd
[04:03] <campbch> but again
[04:04] <campbch> make sure it's the software causing problems, rather than the disk just being bad
[04:05] <Norther_> nero is writing it again right now and the alternate cd is downloading, so this night isn't over yet:)
[04:05] <campbch> ok, i need to ask one more time before i go to bed - is there any way to fix the opengl screensaver half screen problem? it says it should work if the i810 graphics driver is installed and set in xorg.conf, but it isn't working
[04:05] <Norther_> thanks for the help:)
[04:05] <campbch> yep, good luck :D
[04:06] <flaccid> !dual
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <flaccid> hmm howto on dual head for ati?
[04:07] <Dr_willis> dual moniutors can be a real pain
[04:07] <flaccid> i'm kind of close atm
[04:08] <SmrtJustin> I upgraded to Edgy, and now my volume keys are like bound to Kmix, but I'm using xbindkeys and have them tied to aumix commands.  Is KDE or Kmix getting my key presses before xbindkeys can, and if so, how do I stop it?
[04:08] <campbch> http://www.madirish.net/tech.php?article=151&section=5
[04:09] <SmrtJustin> I can run my aumix commands from a terminal and they work and don't tie into kmix at all, so Kmix/KDE must be grabbing the keys before xbindkeys can
[04:09] <flaccid> !dualhead
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualhead - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <campbch> flaccid, did that help? is that what you were looking for?
[04:10] <flaccid> no it didn't
[04:11] <campbch> :'(
[04:11] <hfhf> you guys seed kubuntu with bittorrent?
[04:11] <flaccid> there should be a howto
[04:11] <Art_> At boot, Kubuntu Edgy overwrites my xorg.conf file, reverting to 640 x 480 res.  Any thoughts?
[04:11] <campbch> http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/pdfs/LXF68.tut_twinview.pdf
[04:11] <Dr_willis> hfhf,  proberly faster to use a ftp/http mirror
[04:12] <hfhf> dr_willis: The torrents are much faster
[04:12] <Dr_willis> hfhf,  they 'can' be..  but  i doubt if they always would be,
[04:12] <campbch> try that one?
[04:13] <Dr_willis> last torrents for the isos i tried took forever.. was faster for me to get the .iso from a nice close mirror.
[04:13] <hfhf> What I meant was do you guys seed edgy or dapper, I seed edgy because I feel it's one way I can help out
[04:14] <hfhf> Really because every linux iso torrent I get gets me a download of 600+ kbps
[04:16] <hfhf> plus I don't feel like clogging up their tubes lol
[04:22] <Dr_willis> problems with torrents .. at the start no one has it... then you get good speeds once theres a lot of seeders.... then no one cares to seed later... :)
[04:24] <Dark_Vampire> ooooooh shit
[04:31] <igor> how i get .WMV videos plugins?
[04:32] <OOD> !w32-codecs
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32-codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <OOD> !win32-codecs
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32-codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <OOD> !win32
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <Dr_willis> i alwyas go get the codec pack from the mplayer homepage
[04:34] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:35] <OOD> stupid bot is such a perfectionist :P
[04:36] <felixjet> what happen if i umount hda1 ? (where linux is running xD)
[04:36] <OOD> there's a package of the w32 codecs in multiverse
[04:36] <OOD> so it's easier to just apt-get it
[04:36] <Dr_willis> !find codec
[04:36] <ubotu> Found: python2.4, python2.5, libavcodec-dev, libavcodec0d, libcommons-codec-java (and 3 others)
[04:36] <Dr_willis> !find w32
[04:36] <ubotu> Found: mingw32, mingw32-binutils, mingw32-runtime
[04:36] <Dr_willis> heh.
[04:36] <OOD> !find win32
[04:36] <ubotu> Found: avifile-win32-plugin
[04:36] <robotgeek> w32codecs is illegal
[04:37] <felixjet> what happen if i umount hda1 ? (where linux is running xD)
[04:37] <OOD> no its not
[04:37] <Dr_willis> robotgeek,  thats what i was thinking . its no longer in the repos.. got to use the plf, or mplayer pacakges.
[04:37] <robotgeek> yup Dr_willis
[04:37] <Dr_willis> is the PLF still supporting ubuntu?
[04:37] <Dark_Vampire> i dont know if its illegal... but does it matter? ^^
[04:38] <Dark_Vampire> information should be open to anyone
[04:38] <robotgeek> Dr_willis: i would guess so
[04:39] <martalli> Illegality does matter...even if you aren't going to jail, you might find yourself slapped wqith a lawsuit or somesuch...at least consider not installing ibdvdcss and such on the computers at work...
[04:40] <Dr_willis> i alwasy get my videos from... err... never mind..
[04:40] <Dark_Vampire> ok computers on work is sthg different^^
[04:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:41] <martalli> Can I ask a quick hardware question?
[04:42] <Dr_willis> Sure!
[04:42] <Dr_willis> why not!
[04:42] <martalli> I have an older homemade comp with a 2500 barton proc, and a nforce2 mb.  The mb died...i have been told that nforce2 isn't the best choice for linux. Should I pick a different chipset or try to find another nforce2?
[04:43] <martalli> I was going to replace the mb and maybe donate it to my preschooler's class (maybe sell the idea of edubuntu to the school in the process)
[04:44] <robotgeek> martalli: werent you running linux on it before
[04:45] <martalli> dual booting xpa nd linux.  I had some problems, but I think it was from the ati aiw card (that was a pre-linux addition)
[04:46] <martalli> but see, now I have the "opportunity" to start all over ont he mb and w2ondered if this advice was right, and if there was a better choice
[04:46] <robotgeek> i'm new to the 'PC" world, so no clue
[04:48] <Lam_> kmplayer didn't purge itself correctly.  how do i remove entries from the "Open with..." drop down?
[05:07] <lnxkde> how can I make kmix to use OSS instead of alsa?
[05:09] <Dr_willis> Lam_,  i recall seeing them in the err... hmm where you set file assoications, you can reorder/remove/add those things.
[05:10] <Lam_> Dr_willis: lol i have no idea what you're talking about :(
[05:11] <Dr_willis> explore the os. its where you set file assoications. :P ill have to look for it myself.
[05:11] <Lam_> i can go to "Open with..." >> "Other..."
[05:12] <Jucato> Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations ?
[05:12] <Lam_> and it lets me assign a particular command or program to any file association
[05:12] <Lam_> mm i'll try that
[05:12] <Dr_willis> Konwueror -> settings --> configure --> file assoication
[05:12] <Dr_willis> :) logical place for it i guess. lol
[05:13] <Dr_willis> hmm.. the .divx icon has a netscape logo.. odd
[05:14] <Lam_> oh wow, it's everywhere
[05:14] <Lam_> i have to remove it like, 300 times
[05:15] <lnxkde> how can I fix this?
[05:20] <Lam_> lol i'm stupid, what a waste of time
[05:21] <Lam_> i was wondering why the hell there were so many instances of KMPlayer without a way to remove it, and realized it was in ~/.local/share/applications.  removed it there and they all disappeared
[05:21] <Lam_> Dr_willis, Jucato:  thanks
[05:22] <Jucato> np
[05:24] <gurumeditationer> Is it just me or are there kde headers missing in the 6.10 debs?
[05:24] <gurumeditationer> In particular stuff like kactionmenu.h
[05:24] <Jucato> kde-devel
[05:25] <gurumeditationer> Both kde-devel and kde-devel-extras installed
[05:26] <Dr_willis> kde-devel-extra-extras-extra-read-all-all-about-it
[05:30] <dennister> good evening all
[05:32] <dennister> hi LeeJunFan
[05:33] <dennister> has anyone here ever used dvdshrink in linux?
[05:34] <dennister> i was quite happy with it in windoze, but it originated as open source, and I'm wondering why it's not in the repos?
[05:35] <Dr_willis> I would guess licensing issues, it may not be fully gpl.. or theres no one wanting to maintain it.
[05:35] <Dr_willis> !find dvdshrink
[05:35] <ubotu> Package/file dvdshrink does not exist in edgy
[05:35] <Jucato> not everything that's FOSS are in Ubuntu's repositories
[05:36] <faked_> !wine
[05:36] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:36] <dennister> yes, i realize that...i was looking on mr.bass's site (the originator) and he's certainly maintaining it...probably is licensing issues
[05:37] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu Linux DVDShrink DVDDecrypter Guide  http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/
[05:37] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:37] <Dr_willis> i tend to just rip dvd to avi...
[05:37] <dennister> i mean, he's using the legal loophole that it is legal to make one backup copy
[05:37] <Dr_willis> then from AVI to PSP format.
[05:38] <Dr_willis> hmm.. that guide has a few typeos :)
[05:38] <dennister> microshaft finally sent me my xp/mce disks yesterday, and i don't want to use them without a backup this time...in case it gets cracked/damaged from overuse again :(
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Hmm... you are wanting to use dvdshrink for that?
[05:39] <dennister> not that i want to keep reinstalling it, but it's so buggy...Dr_willis: yes
[05:40] <Dr_willis> perhaps i am confused as  what xp/mce disks are... :)
[05:40] <dennister> like i said: it's fully legal to make one backup copy
[05:41] <Dr_willis> from an 'os' point of view.. you are licensing the os. .:) i dont see wny you cant legally have several dozen copies..  the media it came on is not the os. :)
[05:41] <Dr_willis> heck they sell pc's wth windows with no media to restore it. heh.
[05:41] <dennister> i used it originally when i was authoring an original training dvd...and i couldn't figure out why 90 minutes of video couldn't fit on a dvd...yes, ur right
[05:41] <Dr_willis> but I dont plan on using windows again any time soon.
[05:42] <faked_> Heeeeeeeey whattup! Long story short, I'm trying to run Oregon Trail in wine, but I have NOOOOOO idea how to use wine since I never really have on my own before, I've always followed a buncha instructions >_>. So how do I get this to run?
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Allchin says Vista doesn't need antivirus? Nope.  http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061111-8199.html
[05:42] <Dr_willis> wine whatever.exe
[05:42] <Dr_willis> in its most basic way
[05:42] <Dr_willis> faked_,  isent that a dos game?
[05:42] <dennister> i'd rather not myself, especially now that i'm so close to having mythtv up and running smoothly, but i still need it for collaboration work with publishers
[05:42] <Dr_willis> or ya got the re-release-for windows?
[05:44] <dennister> vista/windows not need anti-virus?!!? not likely
[05:45] <dennister> of course, the ppl you have to be careful of in terms of security for vista is ms themselves
[05:45] <dennister> what with their wpa/wga lockouts
[05:47] <dennister> Dr_willis: i'm having a bit of an issue  with sound in mythtv...i can play music there, and it uses mplayer for avi files; I can hear the audio in mplayer without myth, but not in myth...any clues?
[05:49] <dennister> i can also see the video from my tuner in mplayer, but no sound
[05:49] <Dr_willis> sounds like codec issues..
[05:50] <Dr_willis> what does mythtv even use to play videos?
[05:50] <Dr_willis> can it be set to use some other player. Hmm..
[05:50] <robotgeek> Dr_willis: depends on whether you decoding is in hw/sw, maybe?
[05:50] <dennister> yes, it's gotta be codecs, but somehow i can't get at the codecs in myth to change them
[05:51] <Dr_willis> yea - there is that also
[05:51] <dennister> now yesterday, with another edgy isntallation, i could hear audio and see video, both from the tuner, using mplayer
[05:51] <dennister> robotgeek: u intending to install mythtv?
[05:52] <robotgeek> dennister: yes, but my current motherboard is broken, and internet does not work. i guess i will tackle that issue later
[05:52] <robotgeek> i do have a el cheapo card supposed to work under linux
[05:52] <dennister> and i'm using hw decoding, software encoding, with a hauppauge 250
[05:53] <dennister> what's ur card?
[05:54] <robotgeek> i have a sarbent pci card, it is supposed to work, everythign software
[05:54] <dennister> bttv chipset, or conexant?
[05:54] <robotgeek> hmm, the mythtv wiki said bttv, i think
[05:54] <robotgeek> lemme check
[05:55] <robotgeek> dennister: BT848 chipset
[05:55] <dennister> I'm wondering if i can't change the codecs in mysql-server/phpmyadmin...
[05:56] <dennister> robotgeek: ur lucky then...u won't be limited to myth
[05:56] <robotgeek> dennister: what do you mean, limited to myth?
[05:56] <dennister> all the other tv apps seem to be bt-based...i didn't have much of a choice about myth
[05:57] <dennister> my hauppauge uses ivtv drivers, which are incompatible with kdetv, tvtime, xawtv, motiv...
[05:57] <robotgeek> dennister: well, all i was shooting for is myth :)
[05:57] <dennister> that's what i meant about being 'limited to myth'...why do u want myth?
[05:57] <robotgeek> however, all the brunt of the work will need to be done be my cpu
[05:58] <robotgeek> to watch tv, that's about it
[05:58] <dennister> it's extremely challenging to install...u need a whole lamp server, the lirc remotes are a biatch...
[05:59] <dennister> i've only been using linux for 3.5 months, and everyone agrees: mythtv is not for newbies
[06:00] <jutty> hey i havean 80 gig hard drive with windows and ubuntu on it i wanna resize my wndows partition to give linux more space how should i do that?
[06:00] <robotgeek> dennister: crap, linux says philips semiconductor
[06:01] <robotgeek> i suppose i should return the card.
[06:01] <tarak> hello everyone
[06:01] <dennister> pretty well all the actual progress i've made with mythtv is over the past week..cause with edgy you can download the drivers from repos
[06:01] <dennister> hi tarak
[06:01] <dennister> jutty: u resize windows partition with gparted
[06:02] <jutty> it wouldnt let me resize
[06:02] <jutty> ahh i used qparted
[06:02] <dennister> use the livecd to /resize/install...no? is the windows full?
[06:02] <robotgeek> dennister: got a link, i want to install :)
[06:02] <tarak> i am pretty new at this, i just installed ubuntu 6.06.. I want to upgrade gaim since it closes by itself as soon as it gets my MSN contact list. I downloaded rpm file from gaim and now i dont know what to do with it
[06:02] <tarak> can someone please help me?
[06:02] <jutty> no the windows isnt full
[06:02] <dennister> yes jutty, qt parted won't let u resize
[06:02] <Dr_willis> tarak,  you are totally doing it wrong.
[06:03] <dennister> or it says it has resized, but it hasn't
[06:03] <tarak> Dr_willis: please help me do it right
[06:03] <Dr_willis> tarak,  for starters kubuntu dosent use rpms, it uses the apt-get system  which uses '.debs'
[06:03] <fumbalah> tarak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaim_2%2e0_Beta_3_Quick_Install?highlight=%28gaim%29
[06:04] <Dr_willis> tarak,  the latest ubuntu (edgy) 6.10 just came out a few weeks ago. You may want to install that. It will have newer versions of a lot of things.
[06:04] <jutty> do i have to unmout the ntfs partition first?
[06:04] <jutty> thats the only option itll give me
[06:04] <dennister> jutty: try the ubuntu or kubuntu livecd...it uses gparted...it will leave the ntfs partition unmounted
[06:05] <dennister> by default
[06:05] <jutty> cant i just unmount it in gparted right now?
[06:05] <dennister> is there an option to do that? if so, yes
[06:05] <tarak> thanks alot Dr_willis , and i will do that as soon as my CDs ship :)
[06:05] <dennister> u should never try to resize a parition while it's mounted
[06:06] <Dr_willis> tarak,  you could upgrade to edgy. :) but that may not work well for some people.
[06:06] <jutty> i unmunted it and hen it only gave me the ption to format to:
[06:06] <robotgeek> dennister: wow, i think i got lucky. my card is supposed to be "well supported"
[06:06] <dennister> jutty: r u still using qtparted?
[06:06] <jutty> no
[06:06] <jutty> gparted
[06:06] <dennister> robotgeek: that's great
[06:07] <tarak> Dr_willis: i have monthly bandwidth limit so i should save it for things i need more :(
[06:07] <dennister> jutty: hmmm...it's been a little while for me since i used the livecd's to install
[06:07] <robotgeek> dennister: now to install dvbutils without internet!
[06:07] <dennister> good luck robotgeek...i don't envy u
[06:08] <tarak> when i double click on my ntfs partition, i get an error unable to mount... can someone please help me to fix it?
[06:08] <dennister> jutty: u certainly do NOT want that windows system drive reformatted
[06:08] <jutty> i know
[06:08] <jutty> i still wanna use it
[06:08] <jutty> just i want some of the space repartioioned for linux
[06:09] <dennister> i was at a ubuntu-for-newbies meeting tonight, and they were showing how to use gparted to resize a working windoze parition
[06:10] <xsacha> ntfs partition?
[06:10] <jutty> yes
[06:10] <dennister> jutty: u may have to use windows to clean it out, defrag, and resize...although ti's wierd that gparted won't resize it without wanting to format it
[06:10] <jutty> im installing ntfstoosl right now
[06:11] <xsacha> i think resizing ntfs is still unsafe
[06:11] <dennister> xsacha: u probably know more about gparted than i do...
[06:11] <xsacha> it has worked for me before, but some people have lost data with it
[06:11] <xsacha> no, i dont use gparted
[06:12] <dennister> those blasted ntfs partitions! so picky
[06:13] <robotgeek> dennister: if i install dvb-utils, can i watch tv thru it?
[06:13] <dennister> when i'm working with windoze, i typically use tools like parition magic 8 or acronis true image
[06:13] <dennister> dvb is for europe
[06:13] <jutty> ok i have rssizing started
[06:13] <jutty> lol
[06:13] <dennister> it's their version of hdtv
[06:14] <robotgeek> what do i need then? dennister , just analog. no hd stuff for me
[06:14] <dennister> good for u jutty
[06:14] <jutty> lol thnks for the gparted and ntfstools tip
[06:14] <dennister> motv is supposed to be just a newer version of xawtv...lots of people like tvtime, and there's even kdetv
[06:15] <dennister> i don't think any of them are pvr's tho...where r u robotgeek?
[06:15] <robotgeek> dennister: usa.
[06:16] <dennister> ok...stay away from vdr then...that's mainly for europe, too...lol, i tried that too, with kanotix
[06:16] <robotgeek> crap, is there a knome utility? i have ubuntu edgy installed.
[06:17] <dennister> robotgeek: try tvtime
[06:17] <robotgeek> thanks
[06:17] <dennister> it might work out of the box, and doesn't take so long to figure out IF it will work
[06:19] <dennister> robotgeek: i love edgy cause of the ivtv...but u might find it even easier to install myth with ur bt-based card
[06:20] <dennister> hey jutty: hows the progress?
[06:20] <jutty> i freed the psace and lessened my windows partition
[06:20] <jutty> now i have 25 gigs of unallocated space
[06:20] <dennister> have u tried out the windows yet?
[06:20] <jutty> cani add that to my linux partition?
[06:20] <jutty> nope should i?
[06:20] <dennister> make sure it's safe...yes
[06:20] <jutty> brb
[06:21] <dennister> then, continue to install the ubuntu
[06:21] <dennister> too late
[06:21] <dennister> hi faked_ :)
[06:21] <faked_> Hey, my computer got screwy. Did you get my question from before?
[06:22] <dennister> no, sorry?
[06:22] <faked_> oh. well then.
[06:22] <faked_> Long story short, I dunno how to use wine, but I wanna play Oregon Trail
[06:22] <faked_> Halp?
[06:22] <river> Hello, I currently have two hardrives, a 40G master with windows, and a 120G slave with pclinuxos, I wish to eliminate the 40G from the computer and make the 120G the Master... how can this be done?
[06:23] <river> pclinuxos=kubuntu, typo
[06:23] <dennister> sorry, i haven't tried wine yet...perhaps xsacha?
[06:23] <faked_> never heard of it >_>
[06:23] <faked_> can I just get it in synaptic or something?
[06:23] <dennister> river: you change the drives to master/slave by wiping the windows drive, and using it as a lvm to the linux drive
[06:24] <dennister> !wine
[06:24] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:24] <river> dennister, I don't want the windows drive in the computer anymore, I am giving the windows drive away
[06:24] <dennister> u install wine properly first, including from the repos, and then u might be able to install the orgon trail...but that's just my guess
[06:25] <dennister> river: oh, i c. then u open ur box, take the drive out, and use cable select/jumpers to make it the master
[06:26] <dennister> the bigger drive is the one u change cables/jumpers with, that is
[06:27] <dennister> then, when u refire up the computer with just the remianing drive, the bios should detect the difference
[06:28] <river> dennister, only problem, the root still refers to instelf as hdb
[06:28] <dennister> river: you will probably have to reconfigure grub's map, too, and do some editing of that
[06:28] <river> should be hda
[06:28] <river> I am using lilo
[06:28] <river> btw
[06:28] <dennister> oh, i'm afraid i know nothing of lilo, but u should be able to edit that, too
[06:29] <dennister> river: i'm afraid this is getting out of my league, so perhaps a more experienced helper than this noob is in order
[06:30] <dennister> i'm used to going into the box and redoing things, but <4 months with Linux means that i don't want to give anyone a bum steer
[06:30] <river> dennister, ok, cool, hopefully someone does know, I think I must edit fstab, but not sure what other files
[06:31] <river> I figured out "redo-lilo" fixes the bootloader
[06:31] <dennister> fstab and lilo, possibly nmap or something like that...the drive mapper
[06:31] <dennister> lol...easier than we thought :)
[06:32] <dennister> now i need to go to bed..after midnight, and i only had 2 tiny naps this morning after being awake for 24 hours
[06:33] <dennister> if jutty comes back, perhaps someone could help him install the ubuntu?
[06:33] <dennister> g'night all
[06:37] <jutty> my windows do work
[06:38] <jutty> does*
[06:38] <jutty> now i just need help relocating the unallocated sace to my ubuntu
[06:38] <river> jutty, use Qtparted
[06:38] <jutty> not gparted this time?
[06:38] <robotgeek> jutty: if you start the installer up, it should automagically use the free spac
[06:38] <jutty> which installer
[06:39] <jutty> i already have a dual boot running btw
[06:39] <jutty> im on ubuntu right now
[06:39] <jutty> i took space off ntfs partition
[06:39] <jutty> and want it used towards ubuntu
[06:39] <robotgeek> jutty: oh, cool. what do you need to do then.
[06:39] <river> jutty, yeah, so do what I suggested, go to synaptic and install qtparted
[06:39] <jutty> i already did
[06:40] <river> cool
[06:40] <robotgeek> just format it as ext3 using whatever (gparted/qtparted)
[06:40] <jutty> someone else in here was helping me a minute ago
[06:40] <robotgeek> jutty: he left, so we are picking up the ball
[06:40] <river> jutty, qtparted will also let you resize the nt partition
[06:40] <jutty> ahh thanks
[06:40] <jutty> i already unallocated the sace off ntfs
[06:40] <robotgeek> jutty: cool, it should show up in parted. just right clikc,, and new
[06:41] <jutty> primary or exntened partition?
[06:41] <river> jutty, or you can resize an existing ubuntu parition, as long as its not mounted
[06:41] <river> *partition
[06:41] <jutty> i would liketo resize my current ubuntu partition
[06:41] <jutty> but can i unmount it while running dapper?
[06:43] <river> jutty, no, best to use the kubuntu live cd to do that
[06:43] <jutty> so use the dapper live cd run gparted and itll let me umount and resize my existing ext3 ubuntu partition?
[06:44] <river> jutty, unless you want to resize your home partition, which means log out as user, log back in as root
[06:44] <river> then resize your home
[06:44] <jutty> i wanna resize all of ubuntu
[06:44] <jutty> if possible
[06:45] <Lam_> how do i turn xdmcp on in kubuntu?
[06:45] <river> jutty, how big is your root?
[06:45] <jutty> im not sure
[06:45] <Lam_> whoops. xdmcp is only on gnome
[06:45] <jutty> i that my linux swap?
[06:45] <Lam_> .. i think
[06:46] <river> jutty, no, look in qtparted to see its size, its the one labled "  /  "
[06:46] <jutty> it only lists hdc1 2 and 3
[06:47] <river> jutty, which one did you install ubuntu on? (those 3 are your primary partitions
[06:47] <river> or are your 3 HD devices
[06:48] <jutty> i have 1 hd
[06:48] <jutty> 3 partitions
[06:48] <jutty> one windows and one linux
[06:48] <jutty> linux containing swap and ext 3 right?
[06:48] <Digital_Pioneer> Hey, if I delete some files, can I get their names back?
[06:48] <river> jutty, ok, so you didn't make a seperate root and home when you installed then
[06:49] <jutty> i dont think so
[06:49] <river> that means you must use the live cd if you wish to resize
[06:49] <jutty> ok thanks
[06:49] <jutty> ill go try that
[06:49] <robotgeek> Digital_Pioneer: there might be some undelete utils for linux, i am not sure
[06:49] <Digital_Pioneer> robotgeek: I'm thinking more like logs.
[06:49] <river> I should have told jutty to just reinstall
[06:49] <Digital_Pioneer> robotgeek: Like, a log that lists file deletions, among other things.
[06:49] <river> and make a seperate home this time :P
[06:50] <robotgeek> Digital_Pioneer: nope, unless you logged
[06:50] <Digital_Pioneer> robotgeek: So no logs keep file removals?
[06:51] <Digital_Pioneer> Does anyone know of an undelete tool for EXT3?
[06:52] <robotgeek> Digital_Pioneer: not sure, sorry
[06:52] <qu1ckfr0st> anyone here know how to install java for firefox on mozilla?
[06:52] <qu1ckfr0st> i mean... on kubuntu.
[06:53] <robotgeek> !java
[06:53] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:53] <robotgeek> qu1ckfr0st: ^^
[06:53] <qu1ckfr0st> no way to do it through adept?
[06:54] <river> Digital_Pioneer, in linux, no matter file system, files are gone when deleted
[06:54] <robotgeek> qu1ckfr0st: enable multiverse, and install it from there
[06:54] <Digital_Pioneer> river: I just read that deleted files are turned to 0s in the binary...
[06:54] <Digital_Pioneer> river: So I guess that's pretty much the sum of it.
[06:54] <qu1ckfr0st> robotgeek: how do i "enable multiverse"
[06:55] <robotgeek> !repos
[06:55] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:55] <Digital_Pioneer> river: But I'd say that it's only in EXT3, not all Linux.
[06:55] <Lam_> !vnc
[06:55] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[06:55] <robotgeek> qu1ckfr0st: it is explained in the desktop guide. Kmenu-> help
[06:55] <river> Digital_Pioneer, I have just never heard of any undelete feature ever in linux, would be interested to hear of it though
[06:56] <Digital_Pioneer> river: I did apt-cache search undelete.
[06:56] <Digital_Pioneer> river: This is what I found: recover - Undelete files on ext2 partitions
[06:56] <dragonfly7> Does Beagle work on KDE?
[06:56] <Jucato> !kerry
[06:56] <ubotu> kerry: a KDE frontend for the Beagle desktop search daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 150 kB, installed size 776 kB
[06:58] <river> Digital_Pioneer, interesting, too bad I use Reiser, I am careful
[07:03] <compilerwriter> Is there a handy dandy keyboard mapping software somewhere here in kde?
[07:04] <Digital_Pioneer> Is there any way to access the journal of my EXT3?
[07:05] <felixjet> hi
[07:05] <robotgeek> compilerwriter: K-Menu -> System Setting -?> regions and accessibilty
[07:05] <felixjet> when i start kubuntu, i directly appear on console mode login. how i switch back to graphical?
[07:06] <Digital_Pioneer> felixjet: What display manager?
[07:06] <felixjet> digital_pioneer what u mean
[07:06] <robotgeek> felixjet: do you know if your gui works?
[07:06] <felixjet> of course
[07:06] <Digital_Pioneer> felixjet: KDM, GDM, XDM?...
[07:06] <felixjet> KDM
[07:06] <Digital_Pioneer> felixjet: Have you tried /etc/init.d/kdm restart?
[07:07] <felixjet> nope, ill try
[07:07] <felixjet> and btw, how to download a compiled kernel?
[07:07] <felixjet> that apt-get install linux headers ...
[07:07] <felixjet> which is the correct word, when i use apt-cache i get tons of results, and i cant view them in console
[07:08] <robotgeek> felixjet, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:08] <felixjet> thank you!
[07:08] <felixjet> brb
[07:09] <compilerwriter> robotgeek that helped me with my numlock key thanks.  I want to swap my cap lock and my left control keys.  Heavy Emacs user.
[07:10] <SpAwN> !iso
[07:10] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:10] <robotgeek> compilerwriter: hmm, i use vi :)
[07:11] <robotgeek> vim, rather
[07:11] <compilerwriter> I was once a power user of vi, but I switched to emacs in the 90s.
[07:11] <compilerwriter> Holy Christ I just realized I am old.
[07:12] <jutty> i tried runing the live cd and running gparted
[07:12] <jutty> to rezise my ubuntu partition but it doesnt let me use the unallocated space
[07:13] <CVirus> compilerwriter: how old ?
[07:13] <compilerwriter> Old enough to have been a power user of vi that switched to gnuemacs.
[07:14] <compilerwriter> At the time emacs was like version 7 I think.  Had really great C coding mode. Kept my variables straight for me and made my code all nice and tidy.
[07:15] <felixjet> damn it
[07:15] <robotgeek> emacs is now v 9? (21.x)
[07:15] <felixjet> i cant run xorg
[07:16] <felixjet> when i start kubuntu, appears directly the console mode
[07:16] <robotgeek> felixjet: check logs in /var/log/xorg.log
[07:16] <felixjet> and that kdm restart didnt work
[07:16] <xsacha> gotta love burn: http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/552/burnyl6.png
[07:16] <robotgeek> look for lines with (EE)
[07:16] <jontec> how do I add a directory to my path?
[07:16] <felixjet> how i do in console?
[07:16] <jontec> so that I can access it through Konsole?
[07:17] <compilerwriter> gnome had a keymapper I sure kde has one here somewhere I just can't seem to find it.
[07:17] <felixjet> !xorg
[07:17] <robotgeek> felixjet: cd /var/log/
[07:17] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:17] <felixjet> robotgeek i mean how to open the log in a console mode
[07:17] <robotgeek> felixjet: pico xorg.log
[07:17] <robotgeek> or less
[07:17] <xsacha> felixjet: vim /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:17] <felixjet> okey
[07:18] <felixjet> brb, its so annoying quit irssi to do things xD
[07:18] <robotgeek> xsacha: please dont recommend vim to a new user
[07:18] <robotgeek> or emacs, for the matter
[07:18] <Jucato> nano at least, or Kate :P
[07:19] <xsacha> gah he quit irssi
[07:19] <Jucato> ah he's on CLI? nano then :P
[07:19] <jutty> hey r obotgeek
[07:20] <jutty> i ran live cd but it wouldnt let me use the unallocated space to resize my partition
[07:20] <felixjet> back, okey the file was called Xorg.0.log
[07:21] <felixjet> and the (EE) i found was about nvidia cannot load his module
[07:21] <xsacha> felixjet: try alt+f2 and then alt+f1 right now
[07:21] <compilerwriter> vim isn't all that bad robotgeek. and Hell emacs has a tutorial.
[07:21] <felixjet> thanks xsacha haha xD
[07:21] <jontec> where is .profile located on Kubuntu? I need to add something to my path
[07:22] <xsacha> so you can open your Xorg.0.log right now :) and stay on irssi
[07:22] <robotgeek> compilerwriter: same with vim too
[07:22] <robotgeek> felixjet: did you install the binary driver ?
[07:22] <compilerwriter> yes it does.  It isn't quite as obvious though.
[07:22] <felixjet> yes, but while installing, it sais that installation cant find a precompiled kernel, and it needs to compile a new one
[07:22] <compilerwriter> Everyone should learn vim though.  You never know when you might be in a situation where that is all that you might have.
[07:23] <felixjet> and then, it gives 2 errors about can not find X directorys, and will put files in /usr/lib/ by default
[07:23] <Jucato> felixjet: did you install the nvidia-glx package? or you got the driver from nvidia.com?
[07:23] <felixjet> from nvidia
[07:23] <Jucato> ah... no wonder...
[07:23] <compilerwriter> Now can someone please tell me how one rebinds ones keys in kde?
[07:23] <felixjet> i forgot aptitude... xd
[07:24] <Jucato> compilerwriter: you mean keyboard shortcuts?
[07:24] <robotgeek> compilerwriter: oh, sorry. it thought you already found it
[07:24] <felixjet> i only need to download and install it right? dont need to uninstall the old ones
[07:24] <jontec> join #ubuntu
[07:24] <jutty> you have any idea why it wouldnt let me use the unallocated space to resize my partition?
[07:24] <jontec> wrong place sorry
[07:24] <compilerwriter> Nope No joy.
[07:25] <felixjet> what about nvidia-kernel-source ? i need it?
[07:25] <compilerwriter> I did find where to tun my numlock on on login though.  That was a plus.  I was getting tired of accidently moving my cursor about.
[07:25] <robotgeek> compilerwriter: damn, i dont have my kde up currently. sec
[07:25] <Jucato> compilerwriter: keyboard shortcuts?
[07:26] <compilerwriter> no jucato.  I need remap I want to swap to keys on the keyboard.
[07:26] <compilerwriter> Need the caps lock to function as ctrl and vice versa.
[07:26] <Jucato> felixjet: I would guess you need linux-restricted-modules-xxxx too?
[07:27] <Jucato> compilerwriter: I'm not sure, but in Keyboard Shortcuts, there's a tab there called Modifier Keys
[07:27] <felixjet> which one? i have generic right now
[07:27] <robotgeek> compilerwriter: http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs-en/MovingTheCtrlKey
[07:27] <felixjet> is not better 386 or 686 ??
[07:27] <Jucato> felixjet: then linux-restricted-modules-generic
[07:28] <compilerwriter> That might be it, but I have no clue how that works.  Will that remap it for just emacs or for good.
[07:28] <Jucato> generic encompasses all architectures (except PPC and AMD64)
[07:28] <Jucato> compilerwriter: for good, I think...
[07:29] <jutty> arg
[07:30] <dragonfly7> What is the application that lets you have desktop widgets in KDE?
[07:31] <dragonfly7> !widgets
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widgets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <dragonfly7> !widget
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <dragonfly7> !gdesklets
[07:31] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[07:31] <Jucato> !superkaramba
[07:31] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[07:31] <Jucato> dragonfly7: ^^^^
[07:32] <dragonfly7> Jucato: thank you. I couldn't remember the name.
[07:33] <felixjet> !configure xorg
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about configure xorg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <felixjet> mmmmm
[07:33] <felixjet> !x
[07:33] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:33] <felixjet> how to reconfigure it?
[07:34] <Jucato> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:34] <Jucato> felixjet: ^^^^
[07:34] <felixjet> thanks
[07:37] <felixjet> pffffff
[07:37] <felixjet> i just reinstalled kubuntu and now ill need to do again coz i cant run graphical mode
[07:37] <thuan> hello, which pkg I need to install to get alsa c header files?
[07:38] <Lam_> !krdc
[07:38] <ubotu> krdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 498 kB, installed size 968 kB
[07:38] <felixjet> !xserver
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <felixjet> !dpgk-reconfigure
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpgk-reconfigure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <Lam_> is krdc only a connection platform?  it doesn't provide a feature to enable the computer to become host?
[07:38] <larson9999> anyone here give win .9.25 a try in edgy?  i wonder if it fixes things
[07:41] <Jack1> hi guys
[07:41] <Jack1> can anyone help?
[07:42] <Jack1> after an correct upgrade to edgy eft, i cannot login anymore, but from console with startx i can enter a gnome session
[07:42] <Jack1> if i enter my details it kicks me out to the login screen after few seconds
[07:42] <Jack1> someone told me it might be with xauthority related
[07:43] <Jack1> there is enough space on all partitions
[07:45] <robotgeek> Jack1: you said gnome?
[07:46] <robotgeek> Jack1: why not try #ubuntu (or some overflow thing pushed you ehre)
[07:47] <robotgeek> Jack1: i would try deleting .xauthority, and rm -rf .ICE-authority
[07:48] <chatoros> hi everybody
[07:48] <chatoros> how i can get channels ??
[08:02] <phisrow> Greetings all. Could any of you tell me how to have a script execute on login with KDE?
[08:11] <soundmaster80> does anyone have an idea when the 9629 nvidia driver will be added to the repos?
[08:14] <soundmaster80> does anyone have an idea when the 9629 nvidia driver will be added to the repos?
[08:16] <xsacha> soundmaster80: i think they arent adding it because it has a few bugs and doesn't work on old gpus
[08:16] <xsacha> is it 2xx and 3xx or something?
[08:18] <soundmaster80> 6600gt?
[08:18] <soundmaster80> well, if it has bugs still then i'll leave it alone
[08:19] <suslik> Just installed 6.10, LCD's backlight stays on after "xset dpms force off" Does it work properly for anyone? Not sure under what category to file a bug.
[08:22] <Linux_Galore> suslik: I have a feeling kde can overirde the X defaults for that, have you looked in kcontrol
[08:26] <suslik> I went fairly deep into the wiki and acpi scripts. No matter which way you start, in the end, the scipts call "xset dpms force off", In my special case followed by "radeontools !#$!"
 for most people, "xset" kills the backlight, if "vbetool dpms off" does. In my case, vbetool DOES kill the backlight, but xset doesn't. So if anyone's LCD's light shuts off and they are not on Radeon, it's either generic ACPI in the kernel, or the X's ati driver
[08:36] <T3hWiz0rd> yay kubuntu! init 1 crashes you! j00 rule!
 That's nothing. Fedora Core 6 seg faults on boot if you put reaiser partition in fstab - that was very fun to troubleshoot.
[08:41] <youser> hey my dapper updated and went from tcl/tk 8.4 to 8.5 now my amsn oesnt work any help there?
[08:42] <T3hWiz0rd> anyone know why kubuntu wont save the changes i make to the power saver settings for the LIFE of it
[08:43] <Jucato> T3hWiz0rd: in Dapper? I think it's a bug
[08:43] <T3hWiz0rd> edgy
[08:43] <Jucato> hm.. that's strange..
[08:44] <T3hWiz0rd> it'll save it unti lX restarts
[08:44] <T3hWiz0rd> the second X restarts
[08:44] <suslik> Yeah, it reverts to the defaut 3h (or something like that) for me as well.
[08:44] <T3hWiz0rd> back to 5 hours it goes and 5 hours is bullshit.
[08:45] <T3hWiz0rd> pardon my french of cours
[08:45] <Jucato> from the Monitor & Display -> Power saving tab?
[08:46] <T3hWiz0rd> yup
 Yeh, that's the one.
[08:46] <T3hWiz0rd> it auto reverts to 5 hours
[08:46] <Jucato> hm... that's strange... I disabled it and it has stayed disabled...
[08:46] <T3hWiz0rd> its so annoying i almost want to leave kubuntu cos its not worth blowing my hardware or causing screen burn
[08:46] <Jucato> the last time I remember having this kind of problem was Dapper with KDE 3.5.4...
[08:47] <T3hWiz0rd> all i know is its annoying and im about to drop kubuntu over it
 it's the little things, aren't they :)
[08:48] <T3hWiz0rd> well this little thing can cause a costly hardware problem at some point
[08:48] <T3hWiz0rd> as my monitor is aging and screen burn is an increasing concern for me
[08:49] <T3hWiz0rd> i've never heard of something as dumb as a 5 hour default for power saver options
[08:49] <youser> hey my dapper updated and went from tcl/tk 8.4 to 8.5 now my amsn oesnt work any help there?
[08:51] <suslik> My distro is Osuse 10.1, following the news, went investigating other distros. Tried to spend a week on each one. Could't handle Fedora - KDE is too crude, too stock. No button for suspend in shutdown dialog. In kubuntu - my monitor whouldn't sleep at all. It's always the little nags that spoil the fun.
[08:53] <firephoto> T3hWiz0rd: the timeout setting is working here.
[08:53] <suslik> I would expect a lot of former OSuse ppl to come to Kubuntu and whine about little things. Suse's attention to details spoil users for good.
 Do you know what Kubuntu calls in the end to save the setting? Is it part of KDE config, or one of the system services?
[08:55] <Jucato> Session Manager?
[08:55] <firephoto> T3hWiz0rd: I don't think mine is set from that mon n disp settings though, I see that uses admin.. must be in my ~/.kde somewhere.
[08:55] <Jucato> the one with Restore from previous session stuff?
[08:55] <firephoto> suslik: no, not sure what you mean
[08:57] <nige_> anyone running a billion7402gl adsl modem?
[08:58] <T3hWiz0rd> this has been a known bug in kde for quite some time
[08:58] <firephoto> that display module doesn't work anyway (again), i have a custom xorg.conf for my twinview setup is the reason I think.
[08:58] <T3hWiz0rd> and still not fixed.
[08:58] <firephoto> T3hWiz0rd, it works fine with a plain kde, it's the kubuntu tweaks that killed it.
[08:59] <firephoto> i'm sure i have the setting in my ~/.kde is why it works fine here.
[09:01] <firephoto> I had fixed it (or figured a way around it) when I had dapper so that why I got the timeout values set I'm sure.
[09:02] <Jack1> hi
[09:03] <Jack1> i got this login problem after an edgy upgrade, i read i could bypass this by setting up a new user
[09:03] <Jack1> can i set up a new root user too?
[09:06] <luca> hi everyone
[09:06] <Jack1> hi
[09:06] <luca> does someone know how to fix an unmounting swap partition problem?
[09:07] <luca> mine is not mounted, which means I have slow computer and 1 gb wasted :(
[09:07] <Jack1> swap is never mounted
[09:07] <Jack1> (well i'm not sure) better ask the cracks here
[09:08] <luca> it is not active nor mounted
[09:08] <luca> I have checked with the proper command someone gave me here
[09:08] <luca> ok thanx anyway :)
[09:10] <Jack1> it is not used with /
[09:10] <Jack1> its just swap
[09:10] <Jack1> its different
[09:16] <weedar> Anyone here using ksynaptics? First of all whenever I turn on SHMConfig in xorg.conf the mouse-pointer is "pulled" to the upper-left part of the screen and when shutting down the syndock application crashes with sigfault 11
[09:20] <youser> whats the best workign amsn i cn have right now?
[09:33] <shinobi2> howto enable mouse in vim?
[09:34] <robotgeek> shinobi2: gvim, you mean?
[09:34] <shinobi2> nope, vim
[09:34] <shinobi2> xterm
[09:36] <youser> damn amsn and tcltk
[09:36] <unix_infidel> shinobi2: you mean mouse scrolling?
[09:38] <shinobi2> unix_infidel: i mean mouse as click and position cursor over there.
[09:38] <unix_infidel> shinobi2: that's gvim.
[09:39] <unix_infidel> i dont think there's a way to do that in xterm+vim
[09:39] <unix_infidel> or...hmm, lemme fire up linux, might be.
[09:39] <shinobi2> unix_infidel: ....=(
[09:56] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[09:56] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:59] <houssem> hello !
[10:00] <Werdnum> anybody here good with openvpn on k/ubuntu?
[10:01] <anthony_> bonjour
[10:01] <sredna> Hi
[10:01] <sredna> How can I see a list of files owned by a package?
[10:03] <Jucato> sredna: dpkg -L <.deb package> ?
[10:04] <pihhan> hello
[10:04] <sredna> Jucato: I don't know where the package is, but it is installed
[10:04] <pihhan> how can i control order of my sound cards in alsa?
[10:05] <sredna> I need to figure out where the qt4 package put it's binaries
[10:05] <Jucato> sredna: ah
[10:05] <Jucato> hold on... you can do it in the apt:/ kioslave but if you want a command line equivalent....
[10:05] <pihhan> sredna: try opening its package in ark
[10:06] <pihhan> dpkg -L does display its files once it is installed
[10:06] <houssem> does anyone have runed emule with wine ??
[10:08] <robotgeek> sredna: isn't there a qt-config command
[10:08] <sredna> robotgeek: Yes, but how would I know where it was put?
[10:08] <robotgeek> oh, locate maybe?
[10:08] <robotgeek> or find :)
[10:09] <sredna> It was renamed to qtconfig-qt4, but it does not help
[10:09] <sredna> At least I probably need to compile qt4 on my own
[10:09] <sredna> And install it properly
[10:09] <Jucato> sredna: I could find the apt command for it, but in Konqueror, you can use apt:/ to search for the package and see its descriptions, including the files that it installs
[10:10] <Jucato> sredna: better talk to Riddell or some of the devs, they know better when it comes to development. (that would include robotgeek :P)
[10:10] <lainproliant> i am trying to compile a program with pango as a dependency (gens-rc3), and its throwing linker errors at me
[10:10] <robotgeek> heh, i tht sredna was a dev :)
[10:10] <Jucato> robotgeek: yes, but only recently using Kubuntu, iirc
[10:11] <lainproliant>  /usr/bin/../lib/libpangooft2-1.0.so.0: undefined reference to 'pango_font_description_get_gravity' and six others
[10:11] <robotgeek> hmm, okay
[10:11] <lainproliant> i downloaded and installed from source from ftp.gtk.org pango 1.15
[10:12] <lainproliant> its kinda odd because i compiled wxWidgets from source and it required pango as well
[10:12] <lainproliant> maybe gens-rc3 doesn't like me lol
[10:13] <maniel> hi
[10:13] <realfolkblues> hi people
[10:13] <lainproliant> hello
[10:13] <maniel> what's the default windeco in kubuntu dapper?
[10:14] <Jucato> Crystal
[10:14] <Ace2016> Hi all
[10:14] <maniel> i found it nice and wanted to install it in my distro:)
[10:14] <Jucato> Edgy also has Crystal, but modified kubuntu buttons
[10:15] <maniel> thanks:)
[10:15] <Ace2016> is there any sort update block list or something? i've installed 0pen0ffice 2.0.3 and i want adept to stop trying to update it, 00 2.0.4 keeps crashing a lot
[10:15] <realfolkblues> I just installed 6.10 and it boots up to a screen full of weird colors. So i tryed to do the f1 thing to bring up a commang line to configure x but it wont bring up the command line any help?
[10:15] <lainproliant> hmm
[10:15] <lainproliant> i had that problem with this laptop too
[10:15] <lainproliant> a framebuffer issue it may be
[10:16] <lainproliant> try removing splash from the kernel parameters in your /etc/fstab if possible
[10:16] <Jucato> realfolkblues: Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[10:16] <realfolkblues> lainproliant: i cant bring up command how do i do that?
[10:16] <Jucato> lainproliant: actually, it would be /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:16] <lainproliant> do you get a grub menu?
[10:16] <lainproliant> oh that's right
[10:16] <lainproliant> hehe stupid me
[10:16] <lainproliant> fstab is a list of mounts
[10:17] <nickste> hey all
[10:17] <nickste> How can I check my current screen refresh rate?
[10:17] <lainproliant> thanks jucato :P
[10:17] <realfolkblues> Jucato: lol thanks i was doing ctrl f1 i feel dumb
[10:17] <Jucato> realfolkblues: I think Alt+F1 would also do it
[10:17] <lainproliant> well, if i didn't remove splash, i would still eventually make it to X
[10:17] <realfolkblues> Jucato: i did that also did not work only ctrl+alt+f1 works for me
[10:18] <lainproliant> but if i tried to use any virual consoles, it would fade to odd colors again lol
[10:18] <lainproliant> virtual*
[10:18] <Ace2016> can't you add a command to grub? by editing the startup line to remove the frame buffer?
[10:18] <realfolkblues> Jucato: whats that reconfigure x command?
[10:18] <Jucato> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:18] <realfolkblues> Jucato: i'm noob still
[10:18] <realfolkblues> Jucato thanks!
[10:18] <lainproliant> that's what i had to do Ace2016
[10:19] <Jucato> Ace2016: you can edit menu.lst or do the modifications in the GRUB menu
[10:19] <lainproliant> yep ^_^
[10:19] <lainproliant> well, i am going to tackle this installation again
[10:19] <lainproliant> stupid pango always gives me problems lol
[10:19] <Ace2016> Jucato: i know i was just asking if it is possible to remove the frame buffer
[10:20] <Jucato> ah a grub option? hm... probably
[10:20] <pihhan> is there some voip phone in kubuntu or universe?
[10:21] <Ace2016> skype?
[10:21] <Jucato> !voip
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about voip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <Jucato> er..
[10:21] <Jucato> !skype
[10:21] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[10:21] <Jucato> :p
[10:21] <fdoving> !kphone
[10:22] <ubotu> kphone: Voice over IP (VoIP) phone application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.2-6 (edgy), package size 406 kB, installed size 1260 kB
[10:22] <realfolkblues> 6.10 supports mtp mp3 players now right?
[10:22] <Jucato> ?
[10:22] <realfolkblues> Jucato: mtp aka playforsure players
[10:22] <Jucato> ah..
[10:23] <pihhan> ah
[10:23] <pihhan> kphone should have use audio tag
[10:23] <pihhan> i think
[10:27] <realfolkblues> i like the new look of 6.10
[10:27] <realfolkblues> awww sweet! 6.10 has my wireless driver now lol
[10:30] <sredna> Is there some utility in ubuntu to select a specific version of something?
[10:30] <sredna> Like, which java or automake to use?
[10:31] <Jucato> sredna: if they are installed already? I only know of "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[10:31] <fdoving> sredna: nothing graphical as far as i know. but you have 'update-alternatives' on the commandline. it's basically managing the symlinks in /etc/alternatives/
[10:31] <Jucato> sredna: you might want to look into /etc/alternatives for other options
[10:31] <Jucato> er there
[10:31] <fdoving> :)
[10:31] <sredna> Update-alternatives is fine
[10:32] <sredna> I just hope I can select a version of qt
[10:32] <fdoving> you can select qmake atleast.
[10:32] <sredna> Otherwise, I don't understand how I am supposed to use kubuntu as a kde4 development platform
[10:33] <Jucato> fdoving: maybe you can help him. :P
[10:33] <sredna> If I can't select the entire thing I will remove the ubuntu qt4 packages and compile and install properly
[10:33] <sredna> Because there are a bunch of stuff that needs to be in place
[10:34] <robotgeek> sredna: at this point, maybe ping someone in #kubuntu-devel :)
[10:35] <sredna> robotgeek: That could be an idea :)
[10:36] <realfolkblues> is there a way to find out who added support for my wireless card caus i want to thanks him lol it was a pain in the ass to get to work in dapper
[10:37] <igneh> hello
[10:37] <pihhan> realfolkblues: changelog it its package?
[10:38] <igneh> i'm trying to install kde from ubuntu...i did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:38] <igneh> now my loginscreen is kde-like, it still starts in gnome
[10:38] <realfolkblues> pihhan maybe :)
[10:38] <igneh> anyone know what went wrong?
[10:39] <Jucato> igneh: did you choose "KDE" in the Session menu?
[10:39] <igneh> mm
[10:39] <igneh> session menu?
[10:39] <igneh> i could have missed that... brb
[10:40] <Jucato> igneh: yes. under the menu options in the login screen
[10:40] <igneh> whoops
[10:40] <igneh> brb :)
[10:40] <realfolkblues> hmmmm my wireless can seee networks but cant connect to em
[10:43] <realfolkblues> anyone got any ideas?
[10:43] <igneh> ok, <- new :)
[10:44] <realfolkblues> igneh hi
[10:44] <igneh> love KDE tho :)
[10:45] <igneh> another thing... tried to install ati drivers
[10:45] <realfolkblues> i love the internet but i cant connect right now :(
[10:45] <Jucato> !ati | igneh
[10:45] <ubotu> igneh: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:45] <igneh> ok :p
[10:46] <realfolkblues> Jucato hey do you know anything about wireless beaing able to see networks but not connect?
[10:46] <Jucato> realfolkblues: sorry, no
[10:47] <Flosoft> hey
[10:47] <Flosoft> I am looking for an IAX Client that works
[10:47] <Flosoft> any good ones in the Repo's?
[10:48] <Flosoft> I used IDEFISK before, but there is no package for Ubuntu :(
[10:48] <realfolkblues> HAHA got it working nice
[10:48] <Jucato> Flosoft: you can try looking in http://packages.ubuntu.com or type "apt:/" in Konqueror for a nice interface
[10:51] <igneh>     *
[10:51] <igneh>       Generate a new set of module dependencies so the fglrx driver starts properly.
[10:51] <igneh> if the disabled list is empty i assume its ok?
[10:51] <igneh> nm
[10:51] <igneh> got it
[11:01] <igneh> !ati
[11:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:03] <igneh> wow think it worked :)
[11:10] <realfolkblues> i'm impressed that kubuntu has a 64bit driver for my wireless card when windows does not even have one
[11:13] <momal> If I copyed everything in / (/dev/hda1) over to /dev/hdb1 then changed fstab to mount /dev/hdb1 as / would my system be fine after doing it?.. or would something else have to be changed ? only thing I can think of that would need changing would be grub.
[11:15] <robotgeek> momal: i think you would need to run grub, rest all should be fine
[11:15] <momal> what you mean by run grub? to set up MBR?
[11:16] <robotgeek> momal: yes
[11:16] <pihhan> use grub-install
[11:16] <MRMorefield-ft> what is the command to remove something?
[11:16] <MRMorefield-ft> remove?
[11:16] <MRMorefield-ft> delete
[11:17] <momal> MRM: rm ?
[11:17] <MRMorefield-ft> ok
[11:17] <MRMorefield-ft> thx
[11:17] <momal> robotgeek, pihhan: thanks :)
[11:19] <brett> I am having trouble installing a new game I downloaded of of the internet. Can someone help me trouble shoot it pls
[11:19] <techNiKal> hi is there any software to create your own cbt in your own languages ? i want to create cbt for my language can anyone guide me about it please ?
[11:20] <realfolkblues> i love automatrix
[11:20] <brett> realfolkblues: How did you install automatrix?
[11:21] <pihhan> brett: one think you have to know: you should install application with packages
[11:21] <joe3k> brett: what game?
[11:21] <brett> pihhan: i dont understand?
[11:21] <brett> tremulous
[11:22] <pihhan> brett: if there is not such package or it does not work, start looking for web to donwload something
[11:22] <brett> i downloaded the .run file
[11:22] <brett> then tried clicking on it
[11:22] <pihhan> brett: linux is not single platform, installing programs is little bit different than in windows
[11:23] <brett> pihhan: yeah i know... but how it is different and how to install i am still a little lost on
[11:23] <robotgeek> brett: usually you install files using adept
[11:23] <pihhan> brett: check your package manager, if there is not such package
[11:23] <brett> ok
[11:23] <brett> how do i check the package mananger
[11:23] <pihhan> if you tell us name ot your game, we can help you more
[11:24] <brett> pihhan: tremulous
[11:24] <pihhan> menu/system/adept
[11:24] <joe3k> brett: it's in repos
[11:24] <pihhan> type app name
[11:24] <brett> pihhan: in the console type that?\
[11:24] <joe3k> brett: you can use adept or synaptic
[11:24] <brett> ok when i open adept how do i install trem?
[11:24] <pihhan> brett: no, in kde menu find adept icon
[11:24] <joe3k> brett: alternatively if you like cmd line apt-cache search tremulous
[11:25] <pihhan> you have to first find your package
[11:25] <pihhan> so type game name into search box :)
[11:25] <brett> pihhan: i have adept open
[11:25] <brett> pihhan: how do i install with adept
[11:26] <joe3k> brett: klick on the package and select install
[11:26] <brett> i dont see the package
[11:26] <momal> type tremulous in the box
[11:26] <brett> momal: i did....nothing came up
[11:27] <Chameleon22> i rebooted, not sure what happened before but all of the sda devices went mssing and now none of the USB devices (usb drive, usb flash drive, ipod) are loading - any suggestions?
[11:27] <momal> hmm repos musn't be set up correctly.. its there because thats how I installed it :p
[11:27] <momal> can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file onto http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca
[11:27] <brett> momal: i am quite certain something is set up wrong
[11:28] <brett> momal: ok...i was editing that earlier and might of screwed it up
[11:29] <shanky> good morning
[11:29] <brett> momal: i posted it
[11:30] <momal> can you link me to the post please
[11:30] <brett> momal: ok
[11:30] <brett> momal: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/246556
[11:30] <shanky> I have edgy installed with everything updated, but I can't find any package related to freenx I specially look for knx
[11:31] <brett> momal: when i first installed kubuntu this morning the add remove programs had a list of games that were availible and now they are no longer on the list
[11:31] <brett> momal: in case it helps.
[11:32] <typecast> shanky: seems like there is no deb-package for it. so you'll have to compile it from source :/
[11:34] <momal> brett: backup your old sources.list file then copy this | http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/246560 | into your sources.list file and change all the occurences of edgy to dapper
[11:35] <brett> momal: ok doing that now
[11:37] <BrightEyes_> hello.how can i add installation sources on kubuntu?
[11:37] <pihhan> sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list for example
[11:38] <pihhan> or manage with adept program
[11:38] <brett> momal: ok done... should i restart now?
[11:38] <momal> just open up adept and click fetch updates
[11:38] <pihhan> brett: no, only do update of sources in adept
[11:38] <BrightEyes_> pihhan: which path sources are the best to add?
[11:38] <pihhan> BrightEyes_: i dont understand
[11:38] <brett> pihhan: what do you mean?
[11:39] <pihhan> brett: man, check how many buttons you have there
[11:39] <pihhan> one of them is update or something like
[11:39] <pihhan> press it
[11:39] <brett> pihhan: in adept?
[11:39] <momal> brett: sudo apt-get update OR click fetch updates in adept
[11:39] <pihhan> brett: yeah
[11:40] <BrightEyes_> momal: i want to add extra sources...to get mplayer etc
[11:40] <brett> pihhan: below the menu you mean?
[11:40] <brett> pihhan: i have 6
[11:40] <BrightEyes_> i installed everything about xfce and when i get into xfce it brings a blue screen waiting to load up smth and then it stops and i have to reboot
[11:41] <brett> momal: i did the sudo one and it failed several but others went through
[11:41] <pihhan> brett: is that so hard read the name below button?
[11:41] <brett> pihhan: huh?
[11:41] <pihhan> brett: i dont know how your button is called, as i have czech localization
[11:42] <pihhan> just push that damn rotated arrows button
[11:42] <brett> pihhan: fetch updates? i pushed it
[11:42] <BrightEyes_> brett which sources i should add?
[11:42] <brett> BrightEyes_: huh? i don't know?
[11:42] <pihhan> BrightEyes_: dont know about sources for kubuntu
[11:42] <momal> BrightEyes_: post your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca for me
[11:43] <momal> brett:  http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktopasofnow1du9.jpg <--
[11:43] <momal> that fetch updates button
[11:43] <pihhan> BrightEyes_: but there is debian-multimedia at http://www.debian-multimedia.org/
[11:43] <pihhan> might or might not work, dont know :)
[11:44] <brett> momal: yeah i pushed it.... trem still doesnt apear
[11:44] <momal> brett: can you repost your sources.list for me again how it is right now
[11:44] <brett> momal: ok
[11:44] <momal> mplayer is in the reps so it should show up for him
[11:45] <brett> momal: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/246567
[11:45] <Chameleon22> i rebooted, not sure what happened before but all of the sda devices went mssing and now none of the USB devices (usb drive, usb flash drive, ipod) are loading - any suggestions?
[11:46] <momal> brett: --
[11:46] <momal> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 437D05B5
[11:46] <momal> gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[11:46] <momal> --
[11:46] <momal> brett: run those 2 lines in console
[11:46] <brett> momal: just type that into the console?
[11:46] <brett> momal: ok
[11:46] <houssem_> which command to know the space available on my partitions ??
[11:47] <pihhan> df -h in console
[11:47] <houssem_> thanks
[11:49] <brett> momal: that second line is one whole command right? not two different commands?
[11:49] <brett> momal: i ran it and it said no ultimatlely trusted keys found
[11:49] <ehird> okay, why isn't kontact in kmenu?
[11:50] <brett> momal: the first command seemed to do something without error... there was a warning but no error
[11:50] <momal> yea thats fine.. the second line is 2 commands but its meant to be put on 1 line when you type it
[11:50] <momal> ok now
[11:50] <momal> type | sudo apt-get update | and if you get any errors post the erros onto paste bin for me
[11:50] <brett> momal: type the | before sudo as well?
[11:51] <momal> no
[11:51] <momal> just
[11:51] <momal> sudo apt-get update
[11:51] <brett> ok running it
[11:51] <noelvis> hello all
[11:51] <brett> getting some errors but still running
[11:52] <momal> yea then copy everything it says onto http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/
[11:52] <brett> momal: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/246573
[11:53] <ehird> :/
[11:53] <momal> ahh crap
[11:53] <momal> close adept :p
[11:53] <noelvis> running XP+Kubuntu: How do I create a bulletproof bootdisk/cd?
[11:53] <brett> momal: oh ...heh
[11:53] <momal> then sudo apt-get update again
[11:53] <brett> momal: ok
[11:53] <brett> momal: looks like it is running a little better this time
[11:54] <brett> momal: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/246577
[11:55] <momal> garhh.. im outta ideas... as to why its not connecting at all
[11:56] <brett> momal: hmm
[11:56] <momal> its as if its not getting netconnection
[11:56] <brett> momal: linux is confusing... i was just about to reinstall and hope it fixes something
[11:56] <momal> ping google.com <- put that in konsole and if you get some packets recived you have the net fine
[11:56] <realfolkblues> hey whats the linux version of ipconfig?
[11:57] <momal> realfoldblues: ifconfig
[11:57] <brett> momal: yup pinging fine
[11:57] <momal> realfolkblues:**
[11:57] <noelvis> how do I make a startup disk?
[11:59] <realfolkblues> momal: ?
[11:59] <momal> ifconfig
[11:59] <realfolkblues> momal: thx
[12:00] <typecast> noelvis: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=6747.new
[12:00] <brett> momal: do you think the reinstall might get it to work?
[12:00] <momal> you could try... but i don't think it would but if its not trouble you could try that
[12:01] <brett> yeah no trouble... just installed it this morning
[12:01] <it06158_> i installed xmms and it doesnt recoginize the fonts!!! what can i do?? when i right click for the menus i can't read anything
[12:03] <brett> momal: thanks for the help... i downloaded the distro again... i think this is a slightly different version... might work
[12:03] <joe3k> brett: can you point your browser to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ ?
[12:04] <brett> joe3k: ok
[12:04] <joe3k> brett: does it work?
[12:04] <brett> joe3k: yup
[12:04] <momal> brett: you might want to download kubuntu edgy and use that if your going to reinstall.
[12:04] <joe3k> brett: do you have http proxy configured in your browser?
[12:04] <brett> momal: i think that is the distro i just downloaded
[12:05] <youser> i have the most ridiculous problem ever
[12:05] <brett> joe3k: i dont know
[12:05] <youser> its ridiculous
[12:05] <joe3k> brett: hm than probably not :)
[12:05] <momal> joe3k: he was able to ping google.com fine from the console so...
[12:05] <joe3k> well i'd check it anyway
[12:06] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[12:06] <joe3k> brett: do you use konq or firefox?
[12:06] <momal> youser: you should just scream then say your problem :p
[12:06] <brett> joe3k: kon
[12:06] <realfolkblues> :( i cant get my wireless to connect it did it once and now it's beaing mean to me
[12:06] <joe3k> brett: so go plz to settings / proxy
[12:06] <brett> joe3k: but plan on switching once i get everything working
[12:06] <joe3k> brett: settings -> konq settings ->proxy
[12:06] <youser> i cant  log into amsn or gaim " wrong username or password" for amsn and "unable to authenticate .net passport" for gaim
[12:07] <momal> what about kopete?
[12:07] <brett> joe3k: ok
[12:07] <youser> im using a gmail account that i got a .net passport with so i email microsoft they eail me back saying i can use msn, all .net passport log ins
[12:07] <realfolkblues> i can see networks but cant connect to them got any ideas anyone?
[12:07] <momal> youser: try using kopete and tell me what happens
[12:07] <youser> whats kopete?
[12:08] <xsacha> IM program
[12:08] <youser> alright ill go dl it
[12:08] <xsacha> and a damn good one
[12:08] <xsacha> comes preinstalled
[12:08] <realfolkblues> xsacha! hey dude
[12:08] <youser> is it in synaptic?
[12:08] <momal> its like gaim it has pretty much ever protocol in it
[12:08] <xsacha> you have it.. i think
[12:08] <brett> joe3k: what next
[12:08] <momal> if you have kde.. it would have gone in by default im pretty sure
[12:08] <momal> K>internet>kopete
[12:08] <joe3k> brett: what is selected? direct connection?
[12:09] <brett> joe3k: yes
[12:09] <youser> i have dapper gnome
[12:09] <dinosaur-rus> is there alsa vevelopment package?
[12:09] <joe3k> ok
[12:09] <brett> joe3k: connect to internet directly
[12:09] <youser> i can log onto my msn account fine but not my gmail .net passport?
[12:09] <realfolkblues> xsacha: got a little time?
[12:09] <youser> riridulous
[12:10] <momal> can you login to the .net passport on www.passport.net ?
[12:10] <momal> the gmail one
[12:10] <youser> i can log into my gmail
[12:10] <xsacha> busy, studying
[12:10] <youser> ill check pasport.net though to make sure
[12:10] <realfolkblues> xsacha:aww ok
[12:10] <joe3k> brett: can you try wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg
[12:10] <joe3k> brett: in cmd line
[12:11] <momal> if you can login to www.passport.net with it then something wrong at your end if you can't its a microsoft problem.
[12:11] <brett> joe3k: ok did that
[12:11] <joe3k> brett: did it work?
[12:11] <brett> joe3k: i think so
[12:11] <joe3k> brett: you should have Release.gpg in your current dir, which you can safely remove :)
[12:11] <youser> ahh i think my gmail.net password is diff then regular gmail pw
[12:11] <youser> which i dont remember being
[12:11] <brett> joe3k: ok
[12:12] <brett> momal: i am almost done burning edgy and i am going to try it once it is done
[12:12] <youser> fucking microsoft!!arrgghh
[12:12] <youser> lol
[12:12] <joe3k> brett: well seems apt is somehow misconfigured
[12:12] <momal> lol.. what ever you have set in the .netpassport when you signed up for it and selected to use your gmail account you need to use that pw.... just run the forgot password and you should beable to get it to email like a reset password link to your gmail email
[12:13] <momal> !language
[12:13] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:13] <youser> whoops
[12:13] <brett> joe3k: yes it is definatly wrong somewhere
[12:13] <joe3k> brett: it can't download the packages though the connection is actually working
[12:13] <dinosaur-rus> !alsa
[12:13] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:13] <dinosaur-rus> !alsa-dev
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsa-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <brett> joe3k: yeah it seems that way but the connection is fine
[12:13] <momal> !info alsa-dev
[12:13] <ubotu> Package alsa-dev does not exist in any distro I know
[12:13] <brett> joe3k: i really think the reinstall might work
[12:13] <dinosaur-rus> oh
[12:14] <momal> dinosaur-rus: its prob under a dif name
[12:14] <brett> joe3k: unless you have more ideas i will log off now and try a fresh install with a new cd
[12:14] <dinosaur-rus> !info libalsa
[12:14] <ubotu> Package libalsa does not exist in any distro I know
[12:14] <joe3k> brett: good luck ;-)
[12:14] <brett> joe3k: thanks
[12:15] <brett> momal: thanks again
[12:15] <momal> !info libasound2
[12:15] <brett> see you guys later
[12:15] <ubotu> libasound2: ALSA library. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.11-7ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 316 kB, installed size 1120 kB
[12:15] <momal> ^_-
[12:15] <youser> whooooo
[12:15] <momal> there is also libasound2-dev
[12:15] <realfolkblues> can somone help me with my wireless beaing funny
[12:16] <dinosaur-rus> momal: oh, thx a lot! that seems to be what I was looking for
[12:16] <momal> no probs
[12:21] <kraut> moin
[12:25] <Carbon_Monoxide> hmm... I know I'm not asking the right question here. But anyone know any IRC channels that talk about DDoS(Dsitributed Denial of Service) attacks?
[12:27] <realfolkblues> #wireless
[12:27] <Carbon_Monoxide> realfolkblues: Do you mean #wireless channel talks about DDoS?
[12:27] <realfolkblues> no
[12:27] <Carbon_Monoxide> lol
[12:28] <realfolkblues> sorry was tryingt o join it
[12:28] <realfolkblues> Carbon_Monoxide I'll talk about it with you if you fix my wireless
[12:39] <pablo__> hi everybody, any one knows about why alsa is not being update on edgy?
[12:47] <kent_> hi peeps
[12:47] <kent_> can somone help me upgrade to Amarok 1.4.4
[12:48] <nickste> is there anyway to get AMD64 codecs for MPlayer?
[12:48] <till> jemand da der deutsch spricht?
[12:49] <till> nobody who can speak german?
[12:51] <kent_> nickste: use automatrix it will install them for you
[12:51] <nickste> thanks
[12:51] <till> sorry. can anybody help me with vmware workstation?
[12:52] <till> i dont know how to install it.
[12:52] <blackrider> siema
[12:52] <blackrider> hello
[12:52] <nickste> !automatrix
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automatrix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <blackrider> how to install skype in ubuntu 6.06 64 bit ?
[12:53] <nickste> kent_: what is automatrix, and where do I get it?
[12:54] <nickste> don't worry, I think u mis-spelt it :)
[12:55] <kent_> nickste: http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation&Itemid=38
[12:55] <blackrider> skype is only for debian i386 :/
[12:56] <snpz> blackrider
[12:56] <snpz> ???
[12:56] <blackrider> thx for link
[12:56] <kent_> blackrider: you could compile it from source or is it not open to the public?
[12:56] <snpz> is there a problem to install .deb package?
[12:57] <kent_> can somone help me upgrade to Amarok 1.4.4 i'm a little stuck
[12:57] <snpz> u are trying to compile it from source?
[12:58] <snpz> kent_
[12:58] <blackrider> dpkg -i --force-architecture skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-2_i386.deb
[12:59] <kent_> snpz: no i just wanna get teh package but i cant seem to do so i was doing this page http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.4.php
[01:01] <snpz> kent_, there everything is written
[01:02] <snpz> add apt source
[01:03] <snpz> add apt-key
[01:03] <snpz> and sudo apt-get update
[01:03] <kent_> snpz: i did that but what now?
[01:03] <snpz> and sudo apt-get upgrade amarok i think
[01:06] <snpz> kent_, it works for me
[01:06] <kent_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:06] <kent_> still says 1.4.3
[01:07] <snpz> The following packages will be upgraded:
[01:07] <snpz>   amarok amarok-xine
[01:07] <snpz> 2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:07] <snpz> Need to get 17,6MB of archives.
[01:07] <kent_> i dont get that
[01:07] <snpz> imported key?
[01:07] <snpz> added repository?
[01:07] <kent_> i'll start over
[01:07] <snpz> did sudo apt-get update
[01:08] <snpz> did apt-get upgrade amarok
[01:08] <snpz> ?
[01:08] <dinosaur-rus> why there's no Assistant for Qt4?
[01:09] <kent_> whats the command to add?
[01:09] <snpz> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:10] <snpz> add this line below
[01:10] <snpz> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144 edgy main
[01:10] <snpz> ehmm, u are using kubuntu 6.10?
[01:10] <snpz> edgy?
[01:11] <dinosaur-rus> snpz: sudo isn't recommended for GUI apps
[01:11] <dinosaur-rus> snpz: instead, use kdesu
[01:11] <snpz> ok, no big difference
[01:12] <kent_> snpz: should i remove teh amarok line for dapper main?
[01:12] <snpz> you are using dapper?
[01:12] <kent_> snpz: no
[01:12] <kent_> 6.10
[01:13] <snpz> so where is the problem?
[01:13] <kent_> it's got deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main should i remove this line?
[01:13] <snpz> yes
[01:13] <snpz> ehmm
[01:13] <snpz> u can try to change dapper to edgy
[01:13] <kent_> snpz: ok now what?
[01:14] <intelikey> !upgrade
[01:14] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[01:14] <snpz> kent_, add this line to your sources.list file
[01:14] <snpz> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144 edgy main
[01:14] <kent_> snpz: done now what?
[01:14] <snpz> save the file
[01:14] <kent_> did
[01:15] <kent_> back in command
[01:15] <snpz> import key
[01:15] <snpz> wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[01:15] <snpz>  sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[01:15] <snpz> sudo apt-get update
[01:15] <snpz> sudo apt-get upgrade amarok
[01:16] <kent_> yay it' works!
[01:16] <kent_> thanks a bunch
[01:16] <snpz> ;)
[01:17] <kent_> snpz: you rock :D
[01:17] <snpz> mhehe
[01:17] <aimtrainer> hi! I need some help with my wireless. I have a dlink 520+ with a acx100 chipset. Im not really sure which file/ driver to use here: http://acx100.erley.org/
[01:17] <snpz> aimtrainer, is this chip supported?
[01:17] <snpz> in kernel i mean
[01:18] <aimtrainer> snpz: I think so: I m about to use this tut: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx100
[01:19] <aimtrainer> but Im stuck with the first step .. downloading the correct driver ^^
[01:19] <kent_> aimtrainer: just grab the cd that came with the card
[01:19] <snpz> aimtrainer, what does uname -r says?
[01:20] <aimtrainer> snpz: daniel@daniel:~$ uname -r
[01:20] <aimtrainer> 2.6.17-10-generic
[01:21] <aimtrainer> kent_: I dont think I still have the cd
[01:21] <snpz> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[01:21] <snpz> should work
[01:21] <xwolf-> yay! i also had problems using adept to update. now linux wont start, something about usplash couldnt find a theme for 640x480
[01:22] <xwolf-> perhaps it`s not the only broken package, too.
[01:23] <snpz> xwolf-, maybe your xorg.conf is broken
[01:23] <snpz> ?
[01:24] <snpz> aimtrainer, download this one
[01:24] <snpz> http://acx100.erley.org/acx-20060521.tar.bz2
[01:24] <aimtrainer> thanks snpz!!
[01:24] <snpz> use the manual u posted
[01:24] <xwolf-> snpz: i dont know. but it stops right there at usplash error.
[01:25] <snpz> and everything should work
[01:25] <snpz> xwolf-, try to push LAlt+Ctrl+F1
[01:26] <snpz> u will get to terminal
[01:26] <snpz> LAlt+Ctrl+F7 back to graphical
[01:26] <snpz> in terminal mode try to run startx
[01:26] <xwolf-> no, i wont get to terminal. because THERE is the usplash error message, nothing else
[01:26] <skipjack> can somone tell me who I can register me for Jabber.org ?
[01:27] <xwolf-> in f7 there`s only one single line, something about apci
[01:27] <xwolf-> acpi or some sort.
[01:28] <intelikey> xwolf- cant get to a console?    shift+pg-up & ctrl+alt+f2 & ctrl+alt+f1     ?
[01:29] <xwolf-> intelikey: no, i cant.
[01:29] <xwolf-> what i did to get to a console was adding init=/bin/bash to grub
[01:30] <xwolf-> in the kernel line
[01:30] <intelikey> xwolf- boot with vga=0x0f05   will get you to a console without having to be init.
[01:30] <intelikey> or shall i say "should" get you there.
[01:31] <xwolf-> well, will give it a try.
[01:31] <intelikey> xwolf- also add  splash=silent
[01:31] <xwolf-> anything else
[01:31] <xwolf-> ?
[01:32] <intelikey> quiet
[01:32] <xwolf-> all in the kernel line, right?
[01:32] <intelikey> yes...   thats all i can think of off hand.  :)
[01:32] <xwolf-> right. lemme try.
[01:34] <intelikey> frame buffering.... even when it works, it doesn't work.
[01:49] <ubuntu__> hi everyone ... here's my problem ... i made a mistake by raising my monitor resolution to 1280x1024 ... but my monitor says that the refresh rate is too high .. so i cannot see anything on the screen ... i cannot see the login box ... i know i have to edit the resolution manually by modifying /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... but i cannot get to it (on my ext3 partition) even with the LIVE Kubuntu CD.. help!
[01:50] <ubuntu__> my monitor shows an error when X starts .. even before i can login!
[01:50] <Gecko> Hey there. My box runs really bad. free -m reports of about 150 mb free when I'm not doing anything. I have 1GB ram in total, which I would like to consider sufficient for Linux and KDE. How can I see what's been eating my memory?
[01:51] <intelikey> ubuntu__ ctrl+alt+f1
[01:51] <ubuntu__> ty intelikey
[01:51] <intelikey> Gecko nothing is eating your memory.
[01:52] <Gecko> intelikey: please explain that
[01:52] <intelikey> allocated != used
[01:52] <Gecko> intelikey: Mem:          1011        831        179 <- first collumn is total, next is _used_  last is free
[01:53] <intelikey> Gecko yes and you are reading the wrong line.
[01:53] <intelikey> look at the second.
[01:53] <intelikey> the +/- buffered
[01:53] <Gecko> intelikey: ahh
[01:54] <Gecko> intelikey: well, that doesn't explain why all my games started lagging today, but thanks for the explanation :)
[01:55] <intelikey> as to why it's so slow, some process is probably malfunctioning (not working propperly and thus looping and using lots of cpu power)   use   top
[01:55] <dinosaur-rus> !assistant
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about assistant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <dinosaur-rus> !info qt3-assistant
[01:55] <ubotu> qt3-assistant: The Qt3 assistant application. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 233 kB, installed size 620 kB
[01:55] <dinosaur-rus> !info qt4-assistant
[01:56] <ubotu> Package qt4-assistant does not exist in any distro I know
[01:56] <Kals> How do i open konqueror as root?
[01:56] <intelikey> Kals kdesu konqueror
[01:57] <intelikey> or terminal; sudo -i konqueror
[01:58] <[joemax] > hello
[01:58] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[01:58] <[joemax] > good to be here, I think
[01:58] <joe3k> heh
[01:58] <dinosaur-rus> :)
[01:58] <joe3k> the world is full of joes
[01:58] <[joemax] > hahaha
[01:59] <[joemax] > yeah
[01:59] <[joemax] > i can see that
[01:59] <[joemax] > anyway...
[01:59] <[joemax] > is there such a thing as a kde app that scans cd's
[01:59] <joe3k> yesterday joe_ was here as well
[01:59] <[joemax] > i mean ,surface scan
[01:59] <[joemax] > that's good to know...
[02:00] <joe3k> i know only for cd catalogizing
[02:01] <[joemax] > hmm...
[02:01] <intelikey> [joemax]  kde app.... prolly not.  not that i know of.  but  badblocks /dev/cdrom   should do that.
[02:01] <joe3k> btw does anyone know some better replacement for cdcat
[02:01] <[joemax] > badblocks eh
[02:01] <ubuntu___> ciao a tutti
[02:01] <[joemax] > so this one just scans the cdrom, right?
[02:02] <ubuntu___> qualche italiano in linea_
[02:02] <intelikey> [joemax]  man badblocks
[02:02] <intelikey> to read what it does ^
[02:03] <[joemax] > says here i shouldn't run this directly
[02:04] <ehird> hmm
[02:05] <ehird> say i wanted to remove file FOO and it's many directories under .
[02:05] <ehird> how would I do that? rm -r FOO doesn't work
[02:05] <intelikey> badblocks is not a cd* blah, badblocks is a disk scanning tool, and cd = compact disk.    badblocks was actually writen with floppies in mind....  but works on most if not all media.
[02:05] <joe3k> [joemax] : the man page says you shouldn't if you feed it into e2fsck or similar
[02:06] <joe3k> [joemax] : i'd just run it
[02:06] <joe3k> [joemax] : but umount possible the fs first
[02:06] <joe3k> -e +y
[02:07] <pistooli> hi all
[02:07] <intelikey> yeah it don't like to run on mounted fs's  but can be forced too.
[02:09] <[joemax] > umount it...
[02:09] <intelikey> [joemax]  if that was a question. the answer is yes.  :)
[02:09] <joe3k> hm interesting by clicking on a cd icon you can only eject it, not umount
[02:10] <[joemax] > yeah...dunno it that's a bug or a feature...
[02:10] <intelikey> cli umount /dev/cdrom
[02:10] <joe3k> [joemax] : but i think if you choose "nothing" after insering it doesn't get mounted, ie it'll be umounted
[02:10] <intelikey> oh yeah yall are using kde which is really a pain about umounting cds....
[02:11] <intelikey> we ignore me on this one...
[02:11] <joe3k> intelikey: well i press f12 and have console so i really don't see any problem here :)
[02:12] <basquiat> hi! is there some way to configure kmilo for my thinkpad on kubuntu 6.10? I have no entry in kde's control center under "System Administration" - so is the only way to get an OSD for brightness and thinklight tpb with xosd?
[02:12] <[joemax] > joe3k: so much for functionality :)
[02:12] <[joemax] > ok, i ran the badblocks (umounted the cd first)...
[02:13] <[joemax] > then it dumps this: 0, 1
[02:13] <[joemax] > lemme chek
[02:13] <joe3k> [joemax] : well the "dummy" user isn't probably supposed to know anything about mounting, but hey what about the advanced ones :)
[02:13] <pat_> Gimp love =D
[02:14] <intelikey> joe3k the problem (was when i messed with kde) that the little icon that shows there is a disk in the tray also keeps the thing busy so you can't umount it without first ejecting it from the kde icon...
[02:15] <intelikey> or run a root eject   on it which makes kde cry.
[02:15] <joe3k> intelikey: tried in now; if after inserting you select "do nothing" in the dialog, it won't mount
[02:15] <joe3k> intelikey: so you have umounted cd
[02:15] <P-a-gman> Anyone know if Firefox 2.0 is coming with the next update?
[02:16] <joe3k> P-a-gman: it's already in edgy, are you using dapper?
[02:17] <P-a-gman> joe3k > yes.
[02:17] <joe3k> intelikey: well you can turn the stuff off, or select do nothing as default
[02:17] <intelikey> joe3k or use twm  lol
[02:17] <joe3k> P-a-gman: then probably only via backports but i'm not sure about it
[02:17] <joe3k> intelikey: hehe
[02:17] <P-a-gman> okay :/
[02:17] <BluesKaj> Howdy all ! :)
[02:18] <P-a-gman> it's my friend that wants it xD and he's a jerk at linux.
[02:18] <joe3k> P-a-gman: did you look into dapper-backports requests?
[02:18] <[joemax] > badblocks returns 0 1
[02:18] <P-a-gman> Noooo....
[02:18] <[joemax] > are those the blocks that are...damaged?
[02:18] <P-a-gman> I just found a tutorial on Debianadmin
[02:18] <P-a-gman> It is basicly debian <.<
[02:19] <ehird> No idea?
[02:19] <intelikey> [joemax]  that's a block number.  head cylendar     or reverse that maybe... i forget which.
[02:19] <[joemax] > hmm...
[02:19] <joe3k> ehird: -f but be careful
[02:19] <joe3k> ehird: rm -rf
[02:19] <ehird> joe3k:
[02:19] <ehird> yes
[02:20] <ehird> i did rm -rf cover.jpg
[02:20] <ehird> but there's no cover.jpg's in ./music
[02:20] <ehird> just in ./music/artist/album/cover.jpg
[02:20] <[joemax] > intelikey: i see...
[02:20] <joe3k> ehird: hm you have to specify the full path
[02:20] <joe3k> ehird: or use find
[02:20] <P-a-gman> damn torrents slowing me down. <.<
[02:20] <[joemax] > the specs don't say what format the output's supposed to look lke lol
[02:20] <joe3k> ehird: find . -name "cover.jpg" -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f
[02:20] <joe3k> ehird: or something like that :)
[02:21] <ehird> that seemed to work
[02:21] <joe3k> ehird: but beware the command removes all cover.jpgs recursive from your curr dir
[02:21] <joe3k> ok too late anyway :)
[02:22] <ehird> calc database
[02:22] <ehird> oops
[02:22] <ehird> wrong channel
[02:23] <intelikey> [joemax]  hmmm according to the man page this version of badblocks outputs block numbers  so your guess was right....   sorry for the bad info.
[02:24] <[joemax] > hmm that's ok
[02:24] <[joemax] > still stumped as to what it means though...
[02:24] <[joemax] > so, blocks[0] , and blocks[1]  could be busted..?
[02:25] <joe3k> P-a-gman: well can't find firefox 2 in dapper-backports
[02:25] <joe3k> P-a-gman: can either request it at https://launchpad.net/products/dapper-backports/+bugs or simply install the vanilla firefox
[02:25] <pistooli> a humble question: does anybody know where I can find Kubuntu CD/DVD cover art? was searching google but no luck. many thanks...
[02:26] <joe3k> pistooli: i found one in the dapper installation in ~/Examples recently
[02:26] <[joemax] > oh this solves it:
[02:26] <[joemax] > Checking blocks 0 to 2
[02:27] <[joemax] > Checking for bad blocks (read-only test): 0             0/              2
[02:27] <[joemax] > 1
[02:27] <[joemax] > done
[02:27] <[joemax] > Pass completed. 2 bad blocks found.
[02:27] <P-a-gman> What is the vanilla firefox?
[02:27] <dhq> hey all
[02:27] <dhq> fdoving: i cant uninstall any package
[02:27] <joe3k> P-a-gman: i meant that one you can download from official site
[02:28] <P-a-gman> Oh. Yeah i did.
[02:28] <joe3k> P-a-gman: that'll do as well
[02:28] <P-a-gman> *finds tut on how to install it*
[02:28] <joe3k> P-a-gman: you should however uninstall the old one first :)
[02:28] <pistooli> joe3k: thanks... that one is for ubuntu and 6.06 unfortunatelly... but thanks anyway...
[02:29] <intelikey> [joemax]  from man badblocks -b block-size "Specify the size of blocks in bytes.  The default is 1024."  && section -o output_file "format of this file is suitable for use by the -l option in e2fsck(8) or mke2fs(8)."  and man mke2fs section "  -l filename"  explains it.
[02:29] <P-a-gman> sure.
[02:29] <P-a-gman> But i found one on debianadmin
[02:29] <P-a-gman> http://www.debianadmin.com/install-firefox2-in-ubuntu-and-list-of-recomended-addons.html
[02:29] <dhq> can any one help me on uninstalling a package cauz i get errors