[21:19] <SEJeff> MountainX, Kerberos is single signon for enterprises. It is also a bear to setup and maintain the proper PKI infrastructure unless you use something really expensive like RSA
[21:19] <alan_m> brb showah!!!!
[21:19] <kazol_> Pirate_Hunter: I wonder what relative proportion of *nix users pirate copyrighted software/music/etc....
[21:19] <Ceilingpaint> im not going away guys, lol.   how do i get compiz-fusion to work when i enable desktop effects?  im using nvidia driver, 64 bit fiesty
[21:19] <ChaosTheory> It seems I can't get Youtube to work. . .
[21:20] <frederic> DRebellion: thanks. now, how may I "translate" into something like .avi file ? (is .avi = "uncoded" ?)
[21:20] <ChaosTheory> It says I have the "Macromedia flash plugin" in the add/remove.
[21:20] <MountainX> SEJeff: OK, thx. I'll go with OpenLDAP. Does it make the local passwd and group files obsolete? Would it still help to start off with the same UID and GID for the same usernames?
[21:20] <SEJeff> Ceilingpaint, Try using gutsy
[21:20] <DRebellion> frederic, i'm not sure what you mean
[21:20] <Ceilingpaint> how do i use gutsy?
[21:20] <soulreaper> ok i installed ccsm where do i go to find it on my desk top?
[21:20] <SEJeff> MountainX, Well you can configure it to use ldap and then /etc/{passwd,group} if the ldap server is unavailable by changing a line in /etc/nsswitch.conf
[21:21] <MountainX> soulreaper - it is under system preferences menu
[21:21] <Pirate_Hunter> kazol_: give it a rest and you would be suprised how many pirated software their is for *nix you just have to search but than thats illegal
[21:21] <SEJeff> MountainX, Too bad Ubuntu doesn't have an app like authconfig in fedora. You run 1 command and it sets up ldap clients
[21:21] <MountainX> soulreaper - it is called advanced desktop effects settings
[21:21] <Pirate_Hunter> well after that im gone to install hardy
[21:21] <Exteris> Pirate_Hunter, cedega?
[21:21] <jake2point0> how would i go about getting new sound event sets downloaded.
[21:21] <soulreaper> ok im there
[21:22] <kazol_> Pirate_Hunter: Btw, I do pirate IP.
[21:22] <sanguisdex> is therre a browser based program for screen shareing that will work under linux?
[21:22] <SEJeff> Ceilingpaint, from a terminal type: sudo "update-manager -c"
[21:22] <Ceilingpaint> sorry, stupid question by me, thanks SEJeff
[21:22] <MountainX> soul reaper - under general settings top desktop settings tab and set horizontal virtual size to 4
[21:22] <peter77> Pirate_Hunter, I just downgraded from hardy
[21:22] <Pirate_Hunter> Exteris: cedega is one once cracked, vmware is another but in true reality they are hard to find kazol_ your such a naughty person... were you expecting me to say something like im going to track you down and arrest you?
[21:23] <MountainX> soulreaper then turn on the desktop cube under "desktop" section on main page
[21:23] <Pirate_Hunter> peter77: how come you downgraded?
[21:23] <frederic> DRebellion: actually my video has a xvid. I need to change it (remove a part of the video). I used kino but it couldn't help me (couldn't read the entire video, froze, lost sound). I'd like first to "translate" xvid to normal avi file so I could work on it. (am I clear ?)
[21:23] <peter77> Pirate_Hunter, I'm staying the my nice fast booting perfectly operational gutsy
[21:23] <DRebellion> frederic, wouldn't it be easier to simply use some different video editing software?
[21:24] <Pirate_Hunter> peter77 i tested hardy on vbox and it was bad also the features look quite good and its going to be released in 22 days from now
[21:24] <kazol_> Pirate_Hunter: I was just joking around...your nick was interesting.
[21:24] <FalcUbuntu> is there a relatively easy way to transfer a /home to a new hard drive if the drive it is on is dying?
[21:24] <ampex> if I nice a shell script, will all processes that shell script calls also be niced?
[21:24] <soulreaper> how do i set set 4 virtual desktops
[21:24] <Pirate_Hunter> kazol_: :)
[21:24] <frederic> DRebellion: find me a good one, I'll try ;) kino is the onliest everyone talked me about
[21:24] <DRebellion> frederic, try some googling
[21:24] <peter77> Pirate_Hunter, its good, just I need a good stable OS especially as I've got coursework due and can't afford an unstable faulty beta
[21:24] <DRebellion> FalcUbuntu, copy and paste?
[21:24] <gmenelau> i cant record from the built in microphone of my laptop any help?
[21:24] <Jowi> FalcUbuntu, yes, it is not very hard. But some precautions should be taken. The new home partition should have the same filesystem in order to keep the correct permissions in case you want to copy the old home over to it. If you can't copy the old home due to corruption you should recreate the home dirs with the correct user and group rights (see /etc/passwd). after that is done you should add the new home
[21:24] <Jowi> partition to /etc/fstab
[21:25] <MountainX> SEJeff - OK, I'll still start by syncing up my local password and group files so same users have have GID and UID on each machine. What is the best way to do that? Can I just copy one file to all machines? Will that screw up my logins?
[21:25] <linuxmonger> FalcUbuntu: Put the new drive in a second macine and use rsync - but don't shut down the old drive if you can avoid it.
[21:25] <Pirate_Hunter> peter77: what was unstable about it and im guessing you have got a second os such as m$ or osx
[21:25] <FalcUbuntu> prob is that when i try to log in, it won't let me, the drive is getting pretty bad i guess, i can read it over a forensic cable tho
[21:25] <danand> FalcUbuntu - attach your new drive and copy and paste within gparted is another option ...
[21:25] <soulreaper> hay where do i set 4 virtual desktops in compiz setting manager?
[21:25] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone post a link on how to install home to a different directory
[21:26] <DRebellion> FalcUbuntu, you should make a backup as quickly as possible then, i would use dd
[21:26] <FalcUbuntu> so maybe boot to a live cd?
[21:26] <FalcUbuntu> kk
[21:26] <JoeLinux117> @soulreaper:  In CCSM, go to General Options --> Desktop Size
[21:26] <MountainX> soulreaper-scroll up. I typed it earlier.
[21:26] <Jowi> FalcUbuntu, if you can copy the old /home to the new partition you should be all set and then simply add the new partition as /home in /etc/fstab
[21:26] <peter77> Pirate_Hunter both and no doubt you're a linux zealot vomitting free software and open source ethics all over the computer community?
[21:26] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> is your home directory on  a separate partition?
[21:26] <martianlobster> is there a howto somewhere which describes how to recompile the kernel?
[21:26] <frederic> DRebellion: well, already done in fact. will try again. hope to be lucky :)
[21:27] <MountainX> soul reaper - under general settings top desktop settings tab and set horizontal virtual size to 4
[21:27] <FalcUbuntu> one more question about the HDD, my laptop died b/c of the docking the heads problem, is it possible that that happened with the desktop drive too?
[21:27] <amenado> FalcUbuntu-> is your new partition mounted yet?
[21:27] <FalcUbuntu> amenado: no, don't have one yet, planning my next step first, prolly a trip to best buy
[21:28] <Pirate_Hunter> peter77: o_0 no comment but yeah you didnt answer my question
[21:28] <soulreaper> ok so i set horizontal virtual size to 4 and number of desk tops to 4?
[21:28] <amenado> FalcUbuntu-> go now, the store close in 10 minutes..
[21:28] <jake2point0> can anybody tell me if TeamFortress2 works 100% in linux?
[21:28] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: not at the moment but thinking about doing so since im going to do a clean install of hardy
[21:28] <MountainX> let's say I do want my UID and GID for each user to be the same on each of my half dozen machines. How do I copy or sync the files manually without screwing things up?
[21:29] <peter77> Pirate_Hunter, hardy is good and I'm impressed but I experienced a few problems which were counter productive and it was in my own best interest to stick with gutsy until the final release of hardy and yes I use Ubuntu, Mac OS X and Windows XP
[21:29] <kinnune> argh
[21:30] <FalcUbuntu> alright folks, thanks
[21:30] <amenado> MountainX-> 1st is make sure each of the host does have your uid and gid same?
[21:30] <FalcUbuntu> off to best buy
[21:30] <linuxmonger> MountainX: You can use awk to just get the logins with UID > 999 and > say 10,000
[21:30] <jake2point0> poor you FalcUbuntu
[21:30] <MountainX> I am in admin group on each computer, but admin group is GID 114 on one machine and GID 110 on the other
[21:31] <Pirate_Hunter> peter77: ok understood
[21:31] <linuxmonger> MountainX: Then do a chown -ARE on each directory in home if you've changed any of the UIDS.
[21:32] <amenado> MountainX-> and make sure those users are not logged on at the moment you are doing this conversion?
[21:32] <linuxmonger> MountnX: My text replacement kicked in, that was supposer to be a single character -are-
[21:32] <Pirate_Hunter> Is there soemthing better than JFs filesystem (excl ext2/3 7 reseirfs), better what is the best file system in speed and reliability as well as defragmentation?
[21:33] <soulreaper> how do i rotate the cube?
[21:33] <Odd-rationale> soulreaper: ctrl+alt+left/right
[21:33] <Odd-rationale> soulreaper: or ctrl+alt+[click and hold left mouse button and move mouse around]
[21:33] <MountainX> linuxmonger - thx but I am confused. If I currently have admin GID's of 110, 113, 114 etc. on the different machines, what is the safest, best way to make those all the same?
[21:35] <UnSuNgLoSeR> hello
[21:35] <UnSuNgLoSeR> need help people
[21:36] <UnSuNgLoSeR> help required
[21:36] <Nineaxis> Me too
[21:36] <linuxmonger> MountainX: Dunno, personally, I'd not have anybody in the admin group, but that may not be possible - and there are three files at least that you need to look at, /etc/{shadow,passwd,group}
[21:36] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, you have to ask a real question. I've told you this already. But I've investigated while you were gone, and might have a solution for you.
[21:36] <genii> It's usually better to just state what the problem is
[21:36] <phil__> Hi! Is it possible to add subtitles (.srt format) in copying DVD Video in Ubuntu?
[21:36] <soulreaper> it ses i have 2 desktops
[21:36] <Nineaxis> Anyone know why a server might not be booting from the ubuntu server disk on startup?
[21:36] <UnSuNgLoSeR> XiXaQ yeah wat do u have for me?
[21:37] <wildman> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb gives me /dev/sdb does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. any ideas? I'm trying to install grub on a 2nd hdd to make it bootable after transferring my whole system (from 1st disk) to it
[21:37] <MountainX> I can get all three files from each machine. I can also edit them. But I don't know what will happen after I change the admin GID. I'd rather find out before I try :)
[21:37] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, first, install kppp.
[21:37] <UnSuNgLoSeR> whatever that is?
[21:37] <Jowi> UnSuNgLoSeR, ask a precise question. the more info you give the better your chances are to get an answer.
[21:37] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, it's an application used for connecting to dialup networks.
[21:37] <|Dede|> when is the hardy release date?
[21:38] <MountainX> soulreaper - did you set horiz virtual size to 4?
[21:38] <linuxmonger> MountainX: Make a backup, give it a try, worst is a need to reboot in single-user.
[21:38] <UnSuNgLoSeR> i dont known how to install stuff on ubuntu
[21:38] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  Is the BIOS configured to boot from CD automatically?
[21:38] <Nineaxis> Yep
[21:38] <Starnestommy> |Dede|: I think it's April 24
[21:38] <XiXaQ> Jowi, actually, that was my fault. He asked in another channel on another network. The problem is connecting to the internet using HSUPA (3G)
[21:38] <Nineaxis> But it keeps booting fedora from the hard drive
[21:38] <MountainX> hardy release around april 24 i think
[21:38] <wildman> UnSuNgLoSeR,: sudo apt-get install package_name, run from a command line, will do
[21:38] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, Applications > Add/Remove.
[21:38] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  Is the CD-ROM configured to boot before the hard drive?
[21:38] <MountainX> why not try hardy beta now?
[21:38] <Nineaxis> Yes
[21:38] <wildman> UnSuNgLoSeR, or you can use the corresponding add/remove entry in the menu
[21:38] <Jowi> XiXaQ, ah :)
[21:39] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  Also, is the system detecting the CD-ROM?
[21:39] <Nineaxis> I'm not sure
[21:39] <MountainX> linuxmonger - thx
[21:39] <UnSuNgLoSeR> hmmph
[21:39] <wildman> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb gives me /dev/sdb does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. any ideas? I'm trying to install grub on a 2nd hdd to make it bootable after transferring my whole system (from 1st disk) to it and it seems I'm not able to correctly spec the device
[21:39] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  Once it's booted to the hard disk, check within Fedora to see if the CD-ROM drive is detected.
[21:39] <veco> Ola! I have a dcc pending. Any help? im using xchat
[21:39] <heyjoe02> Hi, this might be off topic. Is there a way to view or edit p-frames in an mpeg file?  I would like to manipulate every single frame, including the placement and data in p-frames.
[21:40] <Starnestommy> veco: /dcc get nickname
[21:40] <Nineaxis> @JoeLinux117 Sorry for being a linux n00b, but how do I go about doing that?
[21:40] <veco> Ola! I have a dcc pending. Any help? im using xchat. The issue revolves around downloading files from irc
[21:40] <UnSuNgLoSeR> i tried to make it run by changing the dev address to /dev/ttyUSB0 but to no avail
[21:40] <veco> no such dcc offer
[21:40] <soulreaper> ya its set at 4
[21:40] <UnSuNgLoSeR> is huawei ets2551 supported by ubuntu 7.10?
[21:40] <Starnestommy> veco: regular xchat or xchat-gome?
[21:40] <veco> gnome
[21:40] <veco> should i download xchat2 and try again?
[21:41] <amenado> wildman-> on /dev/sdb which partition would you like /boot/grub to be on?
[21:41] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, I don't know. I'm fairly sure it won't automatically connect though.
[21:41] <UnSuNgLoSeR> i checked it on the device manager
[21:41] <wildman> amenado, tried /dev/sdb1 too to no avail (I'll try again now), /dev/sdb1 is mounted on /mnt BTW
[21:41] <UnSuNgLoSeR> the status is connected
[21:41] <wildman> amenado, with /dev/sdb1 it's the same pb
[21:42] <ogre>  anybody know what the heck that anarchism package is about? and how to run it to look for myself?
[21:42] <soulreaper> but i cant get it to rotate
[21:42] <mrkeishii> how do you use the Paint Fire
[21:42] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, you're connected to the modem, but has the modem logged into your internet providers network?
[21:42] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  It's OK!  I forget the GUI method in Fedora (I believe there's a hardware manager, maybe someone using Fedora can confirm), but from the command-line you can type "sudo lshw | grep -A 15 cdrom", and look at the "logical name:" entries to see if your system has set the cdrom up.
[21:42] <UnSuNgLoSeR> no it hasnt
[21:42] <amenado> wildman-> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb  this doesnt seem to look right, try  /boot instead of /mnt
[21:42] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, have you installed kppp yet?
[21:43] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  You should see something like, "logical name:  /dev/dvd"
[21:43] <eracc> Anyone know why Hardy is delayed? Is there a URL that tells us why?
[21:43] <UnSuNgLoSeR> it goes like TUSB 3140 boot device connected to usb port
[21:43] <veco> Starnestommy: xchat-gnome. On my laptop i have xchat2 i think, it works fine there out of the box
[21:43] <XiXaQ> eracc, is it delayed?
[21:43] <mrkeishii> I activated The Paint Fire on Desktop Effect, but how do you use it???
[21:43] <JoeLinux117> @eracc:  April Fools
[21:43] <soulreaper> control + alt brings up a window like in windows xp when you alt tab and i can switch between desk 1 and desk 2
[21:43] <UnSuNgLoSeR> i already have the network utility up and running
[21:43] <eracc> Joeb454, ah, ok. :)
[21:43] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, kppp?
[21:43] <UnSuNgLoSeR> do i still need kppp?
[21:43] <eracc> JoeLinux117, ah, ok. :)
[21:44] <UnSuNgLoSeR> nay i am on winxp now
[21:44] <ceschneider> sotap: everything is runnig faster now... are there more options that I can disable to improve performace?
[21:44] <Joeb454> eracc, wondered why you wanted me then, i've not said anything yet :P
[21:44] <mrkeishii> >>>I activated The Paint Fire on Desktop Effect, but how do you use it???
[21:44] <soulreaper> do i have to restart my comp to use the cube
[21:44]  * eracc actually reads the topic XiXaQ ;)
[21:44] <wildman> amenado, but it will install in sda's /boot, not in sdb's...
[21:44] <wildman> amenado, right?
[21:44] <amenado> wildman it should not
[21:44] <UnSuNgLoSeR> and yeah one more question how do i access the ext2 file system from winxp?
[21:44] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, as I said before, I don't have any experience with this, but I'll tell you what I've been told.
[21:44] <ogre> mrkeishii:  well thats more of a #compiz-fusion question but u use <Shift><Super>Button1
[21:44] <wildman> amenado, ok =X
[21:44] <eracc> Joeb454, heh, tabbed nick completion got me again. :)
[21:44] <MountainX> soulreaper - no restart required
[21:45] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, www.fs-driver-org
[21:45] <MountainX> soulreaper - but you need 4 desktops, not 2
[21:45] <Joeb454> gets me alot too eracc
[21:45] <mrkeishii> wats Super Button
[21:45] <ogre> :/
[21:45] <soulreaper> umm one sec
[21:45] <Nineaxis> @JoeLinux117 I see it, logical name: /dev/cdrom /dev/scd0 and /devsr0
[21:45] <eracc> http://blog.eracc.com/2008/04/01/linux-and-foss-are-you-an-advocate-or-a-zealot/
[21:45] <ogre> the button with the stupid windows logo on it
[21:45] <mrkeishii> oh okay
[21:45] <amenado> UnSuNgLoSeR-> get the driver for xp to support ext 2 filesystem
[21:45] <eracc> Ack! Wrong channel. Sorry. :(
[21:45] <mrkeishii> okay it works
[21:45] <mrkeishii> nice
[21:46] <mrkeishii> but how to disperse
[21:46] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  Ok, this problem gets a little more complicated now.  Are you sure that the CD is bootable (has it worked before)?
[21:46] <soulreaper> ok now its set to 4 desk tops
[21:46] <Pinchiukas> if I put a ubuntu livecd into the drive, can I test how well counter-strike: source plays?
[21:46] <linuxmonger> Still looking for a way to get a pretty window to pop up on a users desktop from a cron job or the command line (from ssh). Can anybody help?
[21:46] <Nineaxis> I just burned the file per instructions on the ubuntu website.
[21:46] <soulreaper> but in my bottem right it is has 2
[21:46] <sotap> ceschneider: not that I can think of, but if performance is an issue, you might want to consider using xubuntu instead of ubuntu
[21:46] <mrkeishii> How do you remove it though?
[21:46] <ogre> mrkeishii:  well thats more of a #compiz-fusion question but u use <Shift><Super>C but use #compiz-fusion channel for these questions
[21:46] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  It could be that the CD isn't bootable... that would explain the boot process skipping it.
[21:46] <mrkeishii> thanks
[21:46] <mrkeishii> ogre
[21:47] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  Do you have K3b installed?
[21:47] <UnSuNgLoSeR> XiXaQ dude i cant run ubuntu at extra graphics!whenever i try to switch to extra graphics, it gives an error message
[21:47] <soulreaper> i still cant get my cube to pop up
[21:47] <Nineaxis> I don't know, haven't heard of it befor
[21:47] <ceschneider> sotap: how can I upgrade to xubuntu?
[21:47] <Nineaxis> before, so probably not
[21:47] <wildman> amenado, http://pastebin.com/d2d8623f1 has output, does this mean I can disconnect sda, connect sdb on sda's place and it will boot?
[21:47] <billybiculator> !compiz
[21:47] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[21:47] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  It has a very easy "Burn CD Image..." option, where once you've downloaded the .iso file from www.ubuntu.com, you can simply burn it using K3b.
[21:47] <JoeLinux117> sudo yum install k3b
[21:47] <wildman> amenado, a.k.a: that it worked as expected :)
[21:48] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, that's probably because you haven't installed any drivers that supports 3d. But that's a completely different issue. Don't you think it would be wise to solve one problem at a time?
[21:48] <amenado> wildman it works as expected?
[21:48] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  I believe that should work ("sudo yum install k3b").
[21:48] <MountainX> soulreaper - are you on ubuntu or kubuntu? If in ubuntu, you must see 4 desks in lower right before you can use cube
[21:48] <soulreaper> im in ubuntu
[21:48] <sotap> ceschneider: run: 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' then at the login screen select xfce session
[21:48] <soulreaper> and i dont see them
[21:48] <billybiculator> mountainx: how do you make 4 thinks appear in the bottom right?
[21:48] <soulreaper> i only see 2
[21:49] <wildman> amenado, dunno, I've never had the need before to install grub to a different device until I bought this new bigger disk and wanted to transfer my whole Ubuntu system to it
[21:49] <UnSuNgLoSeR> yeah right.its just that i want my ubuntu to up and running with no problems watsoever
[21:49] <Nineaxis> @JoeLinux117 I don't have a cd burner on my server and my desktop is Windows.
[21:49] <wildman> amenado, so, does the above paste look right?
[21:49] <billybiculator> unsungloser: what problems are u having?
[21:49] <soulreaper> is there a way to apply it when im in the compz window
[21:49] <wildman> amenado, "Installation finished. No error reported" gives me the impression it did...
[21:49] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, if you include the nickname of the person you're talking to, it's alot easier to notice your messages.
[21:49] <MountainX> using CCSM under general options get horizontal virtual size to 4
[21:49] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  Ouch.  Do you have access to a CD burner?  Or anyone that can burn this for you?
[21:49] <amenado> wildman-> the paste looked good..now have an entry on your menu.lst to point to this new /dev/sdb to boot
[21:50] <wildman> amenado, but again... I'm a bit confuzed by specing root-directory to a place different than the place where sdb1 is mounted :)
[21:50] <billybiculator> mountainx: can you help me set up compiz frm scratch? ive don it before but i dont remember how lol
[21:50] <ceschneider> sotap: but I'll be able to run gnome when I want, right?
[21:50] <MountainX> soulreaper - there is no need to "apply" - the settings become effective
[21:50] <wildman> amenado, errr... shouldn't be needed, cuz sdb will become sda once properly reconnected
[21:50] <Nineaxis> @JoeLinux117 I have a CD burner on my desktop, the one I just used to burn the ubuntu server cd
[21:50] <XiXaQ> UnSuNgLoSeR, I don't understand how fancy animated desktop effects is necessary in order to use ubuntu without problems. I'd think it's much more important to get connected to the internet.
[21:50] <|Dede|> What path is the deleted files folder at?
[21:50] <amenado> wildman-> you are going to fast for me, what are you trying to do?
[21:50] <JoeLinux117> @Nineaxis:  And that desktop is Windows?
[21:51] <Nineaxis> @JoeLinux117 Yes
[21:51] <wildman> amenado, I have sda, and bought a bigger sdb, I've already copied the whole thing (whole contents of sda) from sda to sdb
[21:51] <billybiculator> xixaq: i agree lol. i spent 3 months working on my bcm4311 before i just gave up and started using a wireless bridge i found layin aroun
[21:51] <UnSuNgLoSeR> yeah am getting to that
[21:51] <sotap> ceschneider: yes, refer to http://www.xubuntu.org/get
[21:51] <wildman> amenado, now I want to disconnect sda and connect sdb in its place, and have the exact same system I'm seeing right now (on sda)
[21:51] <UnSuNgLoSeR> thanks for all the help!
[21:51] <linkinxp> hey hello i have a question
[21:51] <billybiculator> !compiz
[21:51] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[21:51] <amenado> wildman-> okay, and you have transfered, now dont you want to test  to see if you can boot from /dev/sdb?
[21:51] <sphinxx> hi guys i have a question about /boot
[21:52] <billybiculator> !ask|linkinxp
[21:52] <ubotu> linkinxp: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:52] <MountainX> I need to know what will happen when I change a Group's ID. I want to know before I change it. I want to change my admin GID from 114 to 113. There is another group with ID 113 at the moment. So, how do I proceed?
[21:52] <amenado> wildman without removing /dev/sda
[21:52] <|Dede|> What path is the "deleted files folder" at?
[21:52] <wildman> amenado, I see where you are heading ...
[21:52] <linkinxp> when the new ubuntu comes out will i need to reinstall it ?? or it will update by it self?
[21:52] <wildman> if I can make it boot as sdb, it should then boot as sda, gotcha
[21:52]  * wildman editing menu.lst
[21:52] <soulreaper> MountainX well i set the horizontal virtual size to 4 and vertical virtual is set to one and number of deck tops are set to 4
[21:52] <sphinxx> people have told me theres no need to make a separate /boot partition, but in case that either winxp or linux got a virus that infected the boot record (i have dual boot), and there was no /boot partition, wouldnt i be screwed?
[21:52] <JoeLinux117> Nineaxis: Download a free CD burning program, cdburnerxp.se/download
[21:52] <|Dede|> What path is the "deleted files folder" at?
[21:52] <MountainX> set number of desktops to 1. You only need to change horiz virtual size to 4. The others stay at 1.
[21:53] <amenado> wildman-> not that quick, you may have to play around with the menu.lst on sdb
[21:53] <realmccoy_> hi
[21:53] <linkinxp> when the new ubuntu comes out will i need to reinstall it ?? or it will update by it self? ( im using the beta) billybiculator
[21:53] <Scunizi> |Dede|, ~/.trash
[21:53] <realmccoy_> i need help with my cube
[21:53] <JEEB> Does anyone have a newer tutorial for completely installing Japanese input via SCIM+Anthy on a non-Japanese install of Ubuntu. I tried earlier one tutorial but I never got full dictionaries working? :/
[21:53] <wildman> amenado, I see the root UUID...
[21:53] <|Dede|> ty
[21:53] <Luckrider> linkinxp, you will be able to uprade form inside the update manager
[21:53] <wildman> amenado, which refers to sda's... I'm sure sdb's is different... how do I find it out?
[21:53] <realmccoy_> i cant spin it it stays flat
[21:53] <linkinxp> Luckrider:  perfect thanks :D I Like ubuntu "D
[21:53] <soulreaper> ok its set but i still see 2 deck tops in the bottem right
[21:54] <Survivorman> does anyone know how to rename an sd card in linux? I can just rename it inline in windows, but rename is grayed out.
[21:54] <Luckrider> plus linkinxp, you should join #ubuntu+1
[21:54] <Luckrider> it is for Hardy
[21:54] <linkinxp> ho
[21:54] <amenado> wildman try to test it first, have an entry in the current menu.lst  to boot from sdb
[21:54] <linkinxp> okey thanks
[21:54] <linkinxp> my bad
[21:54] <MountainX> soulreaper - check out the compiz links I and others posted above
[21:54] <Pinchiukas> if I put a ubuntu livecd into the drive, can I test how well counter-strike: source plays?
[21:54] <soulreaper> can you post it agen
[21:55] <foo-nix> How can I install extra .sty packages in ubuntu, latex wont work
[21:55] <realmccoy_> i have4 desktops and still only flat switch no spin
[21:55] <foo-nix> (the latex command)
[21:55] <wildman> amenado, ok, added the entry =X =X (I've used root=/dev/sdb instead of root=UUID=....)
[21:55] <doctorow> I'm trying to set up a PDF printer in Ubuntu (Administration -> Printing -> etc) and when when I click "Apply" in the printer name step, I get prompted for my user account password, but it gets rejected. I'm sure I'm typing it correctly. Anyone know how to fix this?
[21:55] <wildman> amenado, rebooting... stay around a few minutes more please :)
[21:56] <EnginA> I want to see (and possibly record) what a user is doing in my system. Any solutions for that ? i.e. I could 'tail -f /home/user/.bash_history' or 'cat /dev/pts/x' ... but is there a neat solution
[21:56] <wildman> bbs... hopefully :)
[21:56] <foo-nix> i.e. I cannot install xcolor and listings using     latex xcolor.sty               and               latex listings.sty
[21:56] <Pinchiukas> install latex? ooh!
[21:57] <realmccoy_> how can i use remote access for smeone to fix my cube so it will spin
[21:57] <Pinchiukas> kinky, eh?
[21:57] <amenado> EnginA-> how was the user logged on?
[21:57] <EnginA> amenado, ssh
[21:57] <soulreaper> MountainX can you post the link agen
[21:57] <MountainX> soulreaper - several people posted compiz links for you. The one I posted was http://forum.compiz-fusion.org
[21:57] <billybiculator> are there any programs in ubuntu that allow computer to phone calling for free?
[21:57] <veco> Starnestommy: xchat dcc pending issue resolved  -removed xchat-gnome, installed xchat
[21:57] <Nineaxis> @JoeLinux117 I have the software and am in the screen to make the disk bootable but it won't accept .iso files
[21:58] <dwloetz> hey can anyone help me with my sound, its an ICH4 AC 97 soundcard, i have fooled with settings but it still will not play sound
[21:58] <Pinchiukas> billybiculator: skype? :)
[21:58] <billybiculator> for free
[21:58] <billybiculator> lol
[21:58] <amenado> EnginA-> just an idea, you can run a netcat proxy on your host and let the incoming ssh to use that? then you can monitor all the packets ? sounds plausible, never really put much thought to it though
[21:58] <Pinchiukas> for us residents it's free I think
[21:58] <EnginA> amenado, you know ssh is all about encryption
[21:58] <doctorow> Nevermind -- I just ran /usr/bin/system-config-printer as sudo
[21:58] <Pinchiukas> dwloetz: alsa?
[21:58] <dwloetz> yea
[21:59] <Pinchiukas> tried alsamixer?
[21:59] <realmccoy_> can someone please help me in private im tryin to make my cube spinn please!!
[21:59] <dwloetz> yea i am using the gnome alsa mixer
[21:59] <realmccoy_>  can someone please help me in private im tryin to make my cube spinn please!!
[21:59] <realmccoy_>  can someone please help me in private im tryin to make my cube spinn please!!
[21:59] <realmccoy_>  can someone please help me in private im tryin to make my cube spinn please!!
[21:59] <realmccoy_>  can someone please help me in private im tryin to make my cube spinn please!!
[21:59] <Pinchiukas> can you please shut the fuck up?
[21:59] <Starnestommy> !repeat | realmccoy_
[21:59] <ubotu> realmccoy_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[21:59] <dwloetz> lol
[21:59] <amenado> EnginA-> yes i know
[22:00] <soulreaper> are you shure i dont have to restart?
[22:00] <realmccoy_> ive tryed everything in every forem  it was working and just stoped in mid use
[22:00] <MountainX> soulreaper - I have not had to restart when I set up the desktop cube.
[22:01] <MountainX> if you wish, try ctrl-alt-backspace to just restart X
[22:01] <quambo> anyone know how to grant write access to a mounted nfs share? I mounted with rw option, but apparantly group/user file permissions still apply over nfs. I have no idea how to fix this because I can't exactly arbitrarily change my uid to match that of my server.
[22:01] <Pinchiukas> realmccoy_: I think I know what the problem is. You can easily fix it by stabbing yourself in the face.
[22:01] <alex101> oops
[22:01] <sphinxx> did anyone seen my question above
[22:01] <ceschneider> sotap: thank you very much!
[22:01] <sphinxx> do i need to create a separate /boot partition?
[22:01] <ceschneider> sotap: I get to go
[22:02] <MountainX> quambo - I have the same problem. It is recommended to either "manually sync" password and group files or to use OpenLDAP or something  simmilar
[22:02] <JEEB> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InputMethods/SCIM/Setup - is this tutorial still viable for the 7.10 version?
[22:02] <wildman> amenado, 1st, thx for ur patience, 2nd: it didn't work :(
[22:02] <MountainX> I am trying to find out how to manually sync passwd and group files. THen I will try OpenLDAP as second step.
[22:02] <realmccoy_> what should i do with the blood it is very tasty dont want to wast it
[22:03] <wildman> amenado, all I see is the hdd led blinking a lot and the Ubuntu boot progress bar doesn't move, that is, no progress
[22:03] <BrightEyes`> hi. something with my fat file system went wrong so i had to put the cd of windoze to repair it and unfortunately i lost the grub bootloader.how can i bring it back?
[22:03] <unop> MountainX, look into NIS and NIS+ and how they share system files like that
[22:03] <quambo> ah is that what these sync & async options do?
[22:03] <quambo> if its that tough maybe i'll screw it for now and just use sftp
[22:03] <xim> i remember an app that would display your diskspace usage really nicely in concentric circles of subfolders, anyone know what that app is called?
[22:03] <quambo> pain in the nuts though
[22:04] <teamcobra> hi all, I've followed the openldap/samba howto at: http://www.howtoforge.com/openldap-samba-domain-controller-ubuntu7.10 ... at the end of the 2nd page, when everything is configured, I rebooted it
[22:04] <realmccoy_> 8[22:04] <mmm4m5m> Hi all!
[22:04] <mmm4m5m> Question: is there good open source alternative for flash (web browser plugin)?
[22:04] <teamcobra> and now it refuses all http/ssh requests, even though I can ping it
[22:04] <icanhasadmin> Wow. that's.. really.. childish
[22:04] <stdin> !ops | realmccoy_
[22:04] <ubotu> realmccoy_: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[22:04] <billy> how do i make more than 2 desktop panels?
[22:04] <icanhasadmin> mmm4m5m: no but i believe there's a bad one
[22:04] <jpatrick> stdin: ?
[22:04] <wildman> billy, right click -> Prefs, set the lines/columns you want
[22:05] <stdin> jpatrick: the ascii art
[22:05] <amenado> wildman paste your current menu.lst
[22:05] <wildman> amenado, I'm on it :)
[22:05] <mmm4m5m> icanhasadmin: thank you.
[22:05] <mmm4m5m> Question: Is it safe to install flash (web browser plugin)? What are things which I have to know when installing 3rd party software (close source)?
[22:05] <BrightEyes`> hi. something with my fat file system went wrong so i had to put the cd of windoze to repair it and unfortunately i lost the grub bootloader.how can i bring it back?
[22:05] <wildman> amenado, I'll paste the entry I've added
[22:05] <chuy> is the topic of this room correct Hardy will be delayed?
[22:06] <TWP-SirStaal> I got a partionated hard-drive. When I deleted some stuff in the partionated part of the hard-drive (the part were the linux isn't installed) but I regretted it and want them back.  Maybe I have to read about AppArmor?
[22:07] <BaD_CrC> :)
[22:07] <wildman> amenado, http://pastebin.com/d433eff5c
[22:07] <amenado> april fools joke is only for americans?
[22:07] <icanhasadmin> mmm4m5m: that would be a good idea
[22:07] <wildman> amenado, no, in France it's normal too
[22:08] <chuy> I'm an american who has fallen for it hook line and sinker, stooopid me
[22:08] <wildman> amenado, it's called: Poisson d'Avril
[22:08] <wildman> we don't 'celebrate' it here in Buenos Aires
[22:08] <amenado> oh okay, am not sure if it works for latam
[22:08] <nbkr> amenado, same in germany and most parts of europe.
[22:08] <wildman> amenado, no, no funca acá :) (Sorry for ES, won't happen again)
[22:09] <amenado> wildman that was your whole menu.lst ? i wanted to see the current and the added entry for sdb
[22:09] <wildman> no current entry, just added one
[22:09] <nathan42100> nikrud: any idea why I have 2 network symbols a full pidgen symbol and a  half pidgin connecting symbol?
[22:09] <wildman> amenado, and no, that's just what I've added, the rest is the vanilla 7.1+updates menu.lst
[22:10] <amenado> wildman use your existing one and then add an entry for the one on sdb
[22:10] <wildman> that's what I did
[22:10] <EnginA> amenado, over complicated
[22:10] <wildman> amenado, wait, I'll paste it all
[22:10] <EnginA> amenado, I've did cat /dev/pts/11 | tee log > /dev/pts/11
[22:10] <amenado> EnginA-> works for you? cool
[22:10] <Scunizi> Is there a way to send an "ATDT" to a modem on ttyS0 from console just to see if it picks up the phone line?
[22:11] <wildman> amenado, errr... I'll just paste entries not being comments, I see little interest in pasting commented out parts of menu.lst
[22:11] <FreeDownload> have you seen this ? http://www.flickr.com/photos/12831039@N07/2380429329/in/set-72157604239305682/ :D
[22:12] <linuxmonger> Scunizi: echo "atdt" > /dev/ttyS0
[22:12] <Scunizi> linuxmonger, thanks.
[22:13] <wildman> amenado, http://pastebin.com/d3fd99dd0
[22:13] <foo-nix> Is there a way of installing latex packages in ubuntu
[22:13] <H-Breaker> hi gys
[22:13] <H-Breaker> *guys
[22:13] <linuxmonger> Scunizi: Then echo "ath" > /dev/ttyS0 to get it to shut up.
[22:13] <jamesish> foo-nix: apt-cache search latex
[22:13] <lionroar> Hmm, would anyone know why most of my USB devices aren't recognised at init time until i disconnect and reconnect them?  It's really annoying to have to keep doing that each time I turn my machine on.
[22:13] <Scunizi> linuxmonger, thanks that I had figured out.. sounds like the modem picks up and instantly drops..
[22:14] <amenado> wildman and what happens when at boot you select the new entry you added?
[22:14] <RADAR> suks
[22:14] <linkinxp> how i enable the SKULL (KILL) process what is the shorcut?
[22:14] <phreck> sigh. what happened to hardy..
[22:14] <RADAR> what is skull
[22:14] <wildman> amenado, what I explain in the 1st paste, the hdd led goes crazy and the progress bar doesn't advance
[22:14] <stefg> lionroar: could be a bios issue
[22:14] <linkinxp> let me rephrase which one is the shorcut for the kill processes ????
[22:15] <djm_> kjk
[22:15] <kyncani> linkinxp: the "skull" is xkill
[22:15] <linkinxp> ok any shorcut ?
[22:15] <jamesish> linkinxp: man killall might help, too.
[22:15] <linkinxp> lol ok
[22:15] <lionroar> stefg: well, I turned OFF USB2 detection (EHCI) since it was causing issues with my keyboard.  Turning it on has no effect for other devices, so I just leave it off.
[22:15] <kyncani> linkinxp: you can set up any shortcut you want using gnome or kde.
[22:15] <linkinxp> how?
[22:15] <amenado> wildman i dont recall what you said previously, status when you select the new entry?
[22:16] <Scunizi> linuxmonger, does that tell you like it tells me that there is an issue with it and it won't hold the line?
[22:16] <kyncani> linkinxp: well, in kde, i expect it to be in system settings
[22:16] <bonaldo2000> Hi, my kaffeine shows no picture on one account but works on another. Is it some config file I have to delete to make it work on the first account and if so which?
[22:16] <linkinxp> but im talkong for example in suse when i press certain keys the cursor changes to a SKULL and everything that i click it goes how i do that in ubuntu?
[22:17] <amenado> Scunizi-> it depends on how the modem is configured, if it waits for DSR or DTR or what not..
[22:17] <linuxmonger> Scunizi: Maybe, try to get it to dial a number atdt 5551212 or something.
[22:17] <wildman> amenado, I see the 'normal' boot screen (logo + Ubuntu + progress bar) but the orange progress bar doesn't move (it doesn't progress, it doesn't advance, it's frozen at the very beginning) and the hdd activity led on the computer goes crazy
[22:17] <magnetron> linkinxp: you need to start the "xkill" application
[22:17] <linkinxp> ok ok
[22:17] <Scunizi> linuxmonger, good idea.. thanks amenado ..
[22:17] <linkinxp> thanks let me see
[22:17] <linuxmonger> Scunizi: Or install minicom and you can try making a full connection.
[22:17] <stefg> lionroar: so i'd look if you have the latest bios for your your mobo... obviously the one you got has some bugs
[22:17] <magnetron> linkinxp: alt+f2 and then type "xkill" would have the same effect
[22:17] <amenado> wildman-> well that indicates your sdb is booting, perhaps the vmlinuz or the initrd were not correct when you copied it to sdb?
[22:18] <linkinxp> hooo
[22:18] <lionroar> stefg:  It is a shuttle XPC.
[22:18] <linkinxp>  nicee
[22:18] <wildman> amenado, errr... I've copied it exactly as it is sda
[22:18] <wildman> amenado, errr... I've copied it exactly as it is *in* sda
[22:18] <amenado> wildman including all the supporting files in /boot/grub ?
[22:19] <stefg> lionroar: same here ... check shuttle,com, they do quite a lot of updates
[22:19] <kate_mins> Hello, does someone know for good alarm clock software for ubuntu ?
[22:19] <linuxmonger> Good night folks.
[22:19] <wildman> fabman@monster:~$ md5sum /media/disk-1/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic
[22:19] <wildman> d659d9cef399af21602d0931307e7d7a  /media/disk-1/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic
[22:19] <wildman> fabman@monster:~$ md5sum /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic
[22:19] <wildman> d659d9cef399af21602d0931307e7d7a  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic
[22:19] <wildman> fabman@monster:~$
[22:19] <FloodBot3> wildman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:19] <wildman> same file
[22:19] <wildman> amenado, yes
[22:19] <amenado> wildman..ahh you're bad
[22:19] <lionroar> stefg:  Cool.  I've got the SD39P2 - brilliant machine.  Will look.
[22:19] <amenado> wildman   including  /boot/grub  ? all the stage1.5 stuff?
[22:20] <stefg> lionroar: and test if rearranging the devices makes a difference ...
[22:20] <wildman> amenado, I swear I see the same
[22:21] <linkinxp> how i add a new entry in the shortcuts management?
[22:21] <amenado> wildman also on you entry remove the  "quiet splash" so when you boot, you can see what is going on
[22:21] <phreck> anyone have a winmo phone here?
[22:21] <linkinxp> nop
[22:21] <yamo> no
[22:21] <amenado> wildman if you say so, am just playing a devils advocate, making sure you copied the right stuff
[22:21] <javb> Hellow guys, look, im using gnome network manager, i CAN see the wireless network when click on the icon in tray bar, but, when i click on the wireless network and trying to connect, it just stays as it didnt received dhcp.. wich is not true... have working with another laptop with XP here next to me.. any help please? (its a broadcom 43xx, and i`m using restricted drivers and firmware, the ones that comes with ubuntu 7.10)
[22:21] <jamesish> kate_mins: if you;re into that kind of thing, there's at and cron from the command line that rule.
[22:21] <wildman> amenado, the only thing I didn't copy was /proc and /sys cuz those are generated again, as I was told here
[22:21] <Scunizi> amenado, I'm trying to use efax-gtk which worked great on my previous USR that just died, I've replaced it with a USR Sportster v/d/f external hooked to the same serial port..
[22:22] <wildman> amenado, all the rest is exactly the same
[22:22] <amenado> wildman also on the device.map of the sdb  what is the contents?
[22:22] <sarah____> what works better with ubuntu, AMD/Intel?
[22:22] <jamesish> javb: what's the output of ifconfig?
[22:22] <wildman> amenado, I did try remove 'quiet splash' and the last 'quiet' line, and saw nothing but a black screen with the blinking text cursor on the left top corner
[22:22] <jamesish> javb: I believe you use pastebin on this forum, if that's something you need to know.
[22:23] <jamesish> javb: no, it's pastes.ubuntu.org, but don't just paste to the room.
[22:23] <amenado> wildman-> ctrl+alt+F1 F2  F3  shows anything?
[22:23] <wildman> amenado,  device.map has (hd0)   /dev/sda on both systems
[22:23] <lukkka> ciao a tutti
[22:23] <wildman> amenado, haven't tried that
[22:23] <wildman> amenado,  device.map has (hd0)   /dev/sda on both *disks*
[22:23] <amenado> wildman thats is wrong then, should be hd1 on the second one
[22:23] <javb> jamesish, =)    -->  http://pastebin.com/m58d051a7
[22:23] <wildman> amenado, so, (hd1) /dev/sdb ?
[22:24] <amenado> wildman affirmative
[22:24] <sarah____> what works better with ubuntu, AMD/Intel?
[22:24] <wildman> sarah____, both
[22:24] <amenado> sarah____-> better at what?
[22:24] <wildman> amenado, dun, rebooting =X =X
[22:24] <sarah____> functioning, compatability, and support
[22:24] <wildman> sarah____, both
[22:24] <wildman> :)
[22:24] <sarah____> some say intel is in the lead... others day amd will be in a few years
[22:25] <amenado> as the man says, both... :)
[22:25] <stefg> sarah____: it's not a question of cpu ... rather the motherboard chipset is interesting
[22:25] <wildman> amenado, see you soon... hopefully
[22:25] <jamesish> javb: is 192.168.80.stuff your address range?
[22:25] <javb> yes
[22:25] <sarah____> what about for graphic cards, ATI or Nvidia?
[22:25] <david49> I have no sound on gutsy gibbon, can anyone help please?
[22:25] <unop> sarah____, !polls in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[22:25] <javb> And i am, right now, using ethernet.
[22:25] <jamesish> javb: then you have an address. Try pinging your router, presumably at <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:25] <stefg> sarah____: at the time nvidia, but that may change soon
[22:26] <jamesish> javb: aaaah, gotcha.
[22:26] <jamesish> javb: the easiest resolution is to simply statically address the interface.
[22:26] <stefg> !sound | david49
[22:26] <ubotu> david49: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[22:26] <jamesish> javb: but that's because I'm a freeBSD guy, not an ubuntu guy ;)
[22:26] <stefg> !intelhda | david49
[22:26] <ubotu> david49: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[22:27] <sarah____> stefg why might it change?
[22:27] <stefg> david49: and check that it's not simply muted in the mixer
[22:27] <amenado> sarah____-> marketeers want more of our money
[22:27] <billy> does ekiga softphone work for computer to phone calls?
[22:28] <sarah____> but ATI's drivers and such are not that good for linux right?
[22:28] <javb_> jamesish, sorry, GOT disconnected
[22:28] <javb_> jamesish, did you say something ?
[22:28] <javb_> jamesish, that my address range.
[22:28] <amenado> wildman i lost you?
[22:28] <david49> ubotu....it's a MSI mb, with a realtek onboard sound chip ,AMD, not intel
[22:28] <teo_> i have ubuntu 7.10 and i have patched the driver for bcm43xx injection.. but when i use airplay-ng i doesn't send packets.. it only reads :S some help pls..
[22:28] <jamesish> javb: it's cool
[22:29] <billy> howcome i can only use workspace #1 even though i have 4 of them in my bottom corner?
[22:29] <billy> teo_: throw ur bcm43xx card off the top of the empire state building and get something else
[22:29] <jamesish> javb_: you can statically address it, more than likely resolving the issue, unless the device is simply unsupported.
[22:30] <JEEB> Hmm... So I guess no-one in this room uses scim+anthy for inputting Japanese?
[22:30] <tobberoth> I installed mplayer-nogui and want to play a .mov in CLI. I've tried -vo sdl and -vo fbdev2, neither works
[22:30] <teo_> billy, i can't.. i need to throw my laptop :)
[22:30] <amenado> teo_-> you are one lucky person to get a bcm43xx working
[22:30] <tobberoth> My guess is that i'm simply lacking fbdev2, how do I get it for ubuntu?
[22:30] <billy> teo_: wut kinda laptop?
[22:30] <teo_> billy, acer extensa 5220
[22:30] <mastaofdisasta> hey guys, I have 2 ubuntu based smtp servers.  How can I separate outgoing smtp with incoming smtp?
[22:30] <sarah____> does anyone here use pine or alphine for ubuntu/linux?
[22:31] <mastaofdisasta> among 2 servers
[22:31] <stefg> tobberoth: famebuffer is broken in gutsy
[22:31] <tobberoth> stefg: Oh really... now that's not very good :/
[22:31] <stefg> i know ...
[22:31] <sarah____> stefg do you use "pine"?
[22:32] <tobberoth> Isn't gutsy supposed to be stable?
[22:32] <teo_> billy, i saw some ppl on forums which have enabled the injection.. and also i patch the driver from the guide on ubuntu forums.. but the airplay only reads packets :S i can't send.. i don't know whats the problem..
[22:32] <billy> teo_: broadcom sucks.. i gave up and connected a bridge to my ethernet port and thats how im on right now
[22:32] <stefg> sarah____: pine is not even in the repos, and i ususally use a graphical email client
[22:32] <linkinxp> what do i press to invoke this /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands/command_1???
[22:32] <phreck> I need to know if there is an effective winmo sync solution/internet tethering solution out there. anyone have any input?
[22:32] <teo_> billy, ok thnx..
[22:32] <Shubbar> i get logged out as soon as i connect my printer to usb?
[22:33] <Jowi> tobberoth, try "mplayer -vo fbdev -fs movie.avi" this will only work if you have enabled a framebuffer resolution in GRUB (for example vga=791)
[22:33] <sarah____> pine is not? my gusty has it
[22:33] <sarah____> or it migth be "alpine"
[22:33] <stefg> !info pine
[22:33] <ubotu> Package pine does not exist in gutsy
[22:33] <sarah____> !info alpine
[22:33] <ubotu> Package alpine does not exist in gutsy
[22:33] <Shubbar> it was just not printing
[22:33] <sarah____> well i used ssh to read my emails
[22:33] <sarah____> isnt that pine?
[22:33] <billy> teo_: im not having any problems wutsoever now.. you can get a bridge for 20 bucks these days
[22:34] <tobberoth> Thanks Jowi but no, it didn't work :/
[22:34] <Jowi> tobberoth, tip when you get it to work: try the "-xy 1024" if you use 1024x768 resolution for fullscreen goodness in console :)
[22:34] <teo_> billy, i want to fix this card... it's not the money:)
[22:34] <Jowi> tobberoth, you sure you use the framebuffer?
[22:34] <jtravnick> teo_, did you try the restricted drivers?
[22:34] <tobberoth> Jowi: I don't have a framebuffer installed I think, I can't find any in apt-get
[22:34] <teo_> jtravnick, i can connect and i can use monitor mode.. but i cant inject
[22:34] <billy> teo_: i spent like three months on my bcm4311 card to no avail
[22:34] <billy> teo: u on a dell?
[22:35] <Jowi> tobberoth, fbdev does not need to be installed. should work fine if enabled in grub (and doublecheck BIOS/CMOS settings as well).
[22:35] <jtravnick> have no idea what inject is
[22:35] <Jowi> !framebuffer | tobberoth
[22:35] <ubotu> tobberoth: Information about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub
[22:35] <teo_> billy, no on acer.. and i won't give up till i fix it ;)
[22:35] <yamo> stefg: in a terminal : apt-cache search pine
[22:35] <yamo> alpine - Text-based email client, friendly for novices but powerful
[22:35] <stefg> tobberoth: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/135613 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652038
[22:36] <viator> if i was to convert some avi files to another more web friendly format what would it be?
[22:36] <unop> viator, mpg or flash probably
[22:37] <K4k-laptop> can someone tell me the version of the fglrx driver that is supposed to work properly, there is some new one that's beta or something isnt there?
[22:37] <viator> im looking for somthing straightforward to do it
[22:38] <viator> in ubuntu of course
[22:39] <mactaylor> is better to stick with ubuntus version of a program or compile the latest program??????????????????????????????/
[22:39] <Jowi> stefg, that's some unusual modification to a distro. You know if LTS will also implement this?
[22:39] <stefg> viator: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567016
[22:40] <ompaul> !best | mactaylor
[22:40] <ubotu> mactaylor: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[22:40] <tobberoth> Jowi: I added vga=791 to my distro, no change. Do i need to restart my computer?
[22:40] <stefg> Jowi: you mean if framebuffer in hardy will still be broken, or what?
[22:40] <Cope57> Did you also want Compiz installed with fglrx?
[22:40] <Jowi> tobberoth, yes
[22:40] <ompaul> !compile | mactaylor
[22:40] <ubotu> mactaylor: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[22:40] <wildman> amenado, I've found out the UUID of the disk (I guess) and used that as root= for menu.lst, I leave it booting and I get a busybox prompt and my keyboard doesn't work
[22:41] <larswey> can anyone recomend a goot ftp-server for ubuntu??
[22:41] <wildman> I cannot believe that moving the system from one disk to the other is such a nasty process...
[22:41] <Jowi> stefg, nah, more the question that they will be disabled by default...?
[22:41] <stefg> !ftp | larswey
[22:41] <wildman> LILO installed in a much, much more simpler way than grub...
[22:41] <ubotu> larswey: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[22:41] <larswey> !gftp
[22:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gftp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:41] <Datz> when using a live cd, where are the temp files that i donwload stored...like codecs?
[22:42] <Cope57> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#ATI_users_and_Compiz
[22:42] <mactaylor> !ooxml
[22:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ooxml - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:42] <wildman> Amaranth, thx for your time, I'll google a bit about about grub now...
[22:42] <amenado> wildman when it tries to boot the entry you added?  what happens next? you just get thrown to busybox?
[22:42] <wildman> oups
[22:42] <larswey> !FTPd
[22:42] <ubotu> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[22:42] <OneTB> how do I add a service running as non-root
[22:42] <stefg> Jowi: i don't know.  But i'm confident that Hardy will be back on track
[22:42] <wildman> amenado, 1st, I didn't, that's how I found out the UUID, then I've modified the menu.lst with the newly found UUID, and I'm just thrown to busybox 'help' prompt without a working keyboard
[22:43] <wildman> Amaranth, that wasn't for you ;)
[22:43] <Shubbar> i need help with my canon printer
[22:43] <Datz> when using a live cd, where are the temp files that i donwload stored...like codecs? are they stored somewhere on the hard disk, or just in ram?
[22:43] <stefg> !prinet | Shubbar
[22:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prinet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:43] <stefg> !printer | Shubbar
[22:43] <ubotu> Shubbar: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[22:43] <Jowi> stefg, :) cheers for the info. I sort of decided to wait for LTS instead of upgrading to Gutsy.
[22:43] <amenado> wildman-> what if you dont use UUID?  did you take care of the device.map i asked earlier?
[22:43] <OneTB> how do I add a service running as non-root
[22:44] <wildman> amenado, 1st time I tried (with root=/dev/sdb) hdd led blinked a lot, I left it there for a while, and tried Alt+F1, it said "Starting..." or "Loading..." and I saw busybox too, with working keyboard, and lots of messages stating that the 'device /dev/sdb' couldn't the found
[22:44] <stefg> Jowi: and you were wise to do so ....
[22:44] <wildman> amenado, yes, I did
[22:44] <_boto> i know you all very busy, but may i ask something about my mircorphone problem on 7.1?
[22:44] <wildman> amenado, I've even copied menu.lst over to the 2nd disk before trying
[22:44] <wildman> amenado, I mean, the modified one
[22:44] <wildman> _boto, dont' ask if you can ask, just ask
[22:45] <_boto> k, i cannot get my micro input running, the alsa and oss fail both
[22:45] <wildman> amenado, I'm very dissapointed with all this trouble...
[22:45] <Datz>  when using a live cd, where are the temp files that i donwload stored...like codecs? are they stored somewhere on the hard disk, or just in ram?
[22:45] <_boto> i have an intel on-board sound chip
[22:45] <_boto> google could not help :-/
[22:45] <wildman> amenado, I swear this operation (moving the OS from one disk to another, and have that other disk bootable) was much, much easier before...
[22:45] <amenado> wildman you seem to be mixing stuff...lets do this step by step
[22:45] <OneTB> Datz, I believe in the ram
[22:46] <root> Jowi: That didn't work too fine. When I picked my kernel in grub, it started.. or something. But my display went completely black.
[22:46] <Unitux> Datz ram
[22:46] <Datz> OneTB, thanks alot :)
[22:46] <OneTB> datz, but could be written as temp files
[22:46] <amenado> wildman  did you modify the /boot/grub/device.map  as I suggested earlier?
[22:46] <soulreaper> hay mountainx you here
[22:46] <Shubbar> i didn't see my canon model supported - LBP3300
[22:46] <OneTB> datz, sure
[22:46] <wildman> amenado, yes, I did
[22:46] <amenado> wildman what is it pointing to?
[22:46] <Shubbar> i installed linux drivers from canon site
[22:46] <wildman> amenado, I won't paste here, the bot won't like it ;)
[22:46] <wildman> amenado, wait plz
[22:46] <OneTB> how do I add a service running as non-root
[22:47] <amenado> wildman can you re-paste your current menu.lst now as you have booted and getting that busy box?
[22:47] <Shubbar> i had the same drivers work on a fedora box
[22:47] <wildman> amenado, I will. wait plz
[22:47] <xb3rt> This is kind of a dumb question, but how to I add extra space on my firefox bookmarks bar
[22:48] <OneTB> how do I add a service running as non-root
[22:48] <_boto> when i do a sound record test in audio settings then i get a failure notice. any idea what i should try?
[22:48] <Jowi> root, (unfourtunatly) the second link that stefg gave seems to be what you need: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652038
[22:48] <amenado> Shubbar-> what are you trying to do?
[22:48] <Stoffer> i'm trying to format my external hdd with gparted, but I keep getting an error: http://www.pastebin.org/26771  Can someone help me out?
[22:48] <Shubbar> print with my Canon LBP3300
[22:49] <wildman> amenado, http://pastebin.com/d6dad5809
[22:49] <kazol_> sluimers: Still doesn't work...
[22:49] <amenado> !who | Shubbar
[22:49] <ubotu> Shubbar: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[22:49] <kazol_> How do I retain my WPA key in the network administration tool so I won't have to enter it after each reboot?
[22:49] <amenado> kazol_-> in your /etc/network/interfaces
[22:49] <soulreaper> hay mountinx you still in hear?
[22:49] <kazol_> amenado: I still have to enter it.
[22:49] <Cope57> Leaked Release Announcement Describes Ubuntu Jabbering Jackass
[22:49] <Cope57> http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/03/31/leaked-release-announcement-describes-ubuntu-jabbering-jackass/
[22:49] <OneTB> kazol, set it to the keyring, then change the keyring to retain password
[22:50] <amenado> kazol_-> one time.
[22:50] <mister> anyone know about xgl with open gl apps like google earth?
[22:50] <Shubbar> ubotu, can cups work with a not listed printer?
[22:50] <stefg> Shubbar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/CanonPrinters/Canon_LBP_2900 applies
[22:50] <OneTB> how do I add a service running as non-root
[22:50] <Cope57> I am using it mister
[22:50] <kazol_> amenado: I'll try it again (I'll have the wpa-psk key).
[22:50] <cherwin_> OneTB: what are you trying to do?
[22:50] <wildman> Shubbar, ubotu is a bot, it won't answer you like that :)
[22:51] <OneTB> I set up vnc on desktop but I want to add it to services so it launches on boot
[22:51] <amenado> wildman on your menu.list remove this root=UUID=777f3ba1-d484-4556-8b2a-4f2fb78f76f3  and replace it with just root=/dev/sdb1
[22:51] <Shubbar> wildman, how stupid of me chatting with a bot
[22:51] <wildman> amenado, on both sda and sdb?
[22:51] <wildman> amenado, or just on sda?
[22:51] <xlrrn> Hi, can someone tell me how to search for a word or phrase in the nano text editor? Thanks.
[22:51] <amenado> wildman only on the sdb the new entry
[22:52] <Jowi> xlrrn, ctrl-w
[22:52] <thoreauputic> xlrrn: ctrl+w
[22:52] <xlrrn> Jowi: Thanks
[22:52] <wildman> amenado, on both sda's /boot and sdb's /boot, or just on sda's ?
[22:52] <stefg> xlrrn: ctrl-w
[22:52] <cherwin_> you could use su
[22:52] <amenado> wildman  you added the entry for sdb right?  now remove that UUID line and replace per my suggestion
[22:53] <OneTB> cherwin, what is the command to execute services from term
[22:53] <keit1> every time I unzip more than one zip file at a time it keeps adding (2) to the end randomly of the unzipped folder name... how do i stop this?
[22:53] <wildman> amenado, yes, what I'm not getting good at making you understand is:
[22:53] <amenado> wildman i dont trust uuid on grub...it misses it
[22:53] <wildman> amenado, nevermind... I'll modify both menu.lst
[22:54] <jodie> Is it a bad time to ask for info to get my hp nx9010 laptop wireless adapter working with ubuntu 6.04
[22:54] <kazol_> amenado: It does not work; I have to enter it each time.
[22:54] <amenado> kazol_-> paste in pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces  file contents
[22:55] <stefg> jodie: 6.04 doesn't exist
[22:55] <Tu13es> hm, I've got Gutsy on a Mac Mini natively.  now it freezes during boot, won't boot from CD and I can't get it to boot from USB. wtf!
[22:55] <wildman> amenado, interesting... grub was installed under /boot/boot on sda :P
[22:55] <alex101> Hey can anyone help? im trying to install bluefish html editor and its not working.
[22:56] <amenado> wildman-> it modified your existing /boot on sda?
[22:56] <wildman> amenado, that's why I was trying from the beginning to install on a different place with --root-directory=/the/place/where/sdb1/is/mounted
[22:56] <stefg> Tu13es: is that a PPC or Intel MiniMac ?
[22:56] <wildman> amenado, which didn't work
[22:56] <amenado> wildman its easy to move from /boot/boot to /boot
[22:56] <ZoiX> alex101: sudo apt-get install bluefish
[22:56] <keit1> 6.04? what was that called!
[22:56] <kazol_> amenado: http://pastebin.com/d4d3bb67d
[22:56] <jodie> Not using the laptop currently. I'll get back as soon as I get a wired connection working..
[22:56] <wildman> amenado, yes, cuz you told me not to put /mnt (the place where sdb1 was mounted) as value for the --root-directory grub-install command
[22:56] <stefg> !dapper | kazol_:
[22:56] <ubotu> kazol_:: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.
[22:57] <amenado> wildman its okay, no worries
[22:57] <Tu13es> stefg: Intel
[22:57] <wildman> amenado, I think I won't move anything, I fear I won't be able to boot neither sda, nor sdba ;)
[22:57] <alex101> ZoiZ
[22:57] <jodie> Its 6. something I'll check again
[22:57] <kazol_> stefg: ?
[22:57] <alex101> ZoiX*
[22:57] <Tu13es> trying Recovery Mode now. looks like it got farther but either isnt booting or taking a while
[22:57] <alex101> it justsaid this
[22:57] <alex101> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[22:57] <amenado> wildman  you can see that your /boot still exist right? it just added another boot subdir  yesh?
[22:57] <stefg> kazol_: sorry, mout of line error, was for keit1
[22:57] <wildman> amenado, yep
[22:58] <OneTB> any one know how to open services from the command line
[22:58] <keit1> dapper was 6.06 and ahrdy is 8.04 but was there ever a 6.04? i certainly don't remember one! ;)
[22:58] <Xeon06> Hey all. I have a little problem. I have a mic that works fine under Windows but not Ubuntu. Anybody has an idea?
[22:58] <stefg> !dapper | keit1
[22:58] <ubotu> keit1: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.
[22:58] <ZoiX> alex101: is because you actually have open Synaptic or another similar process
[22:58] <wildman> amenado, ok, dun, changed UUID for /dev/sdb1, rebooting =X
[22:58] <Cope57> 6.04 and 6.10 were the only two for 2006
[22:58] <amenado> kazol_-> seems like you are missing a word like "key"  or is that how it is supposed to be?
[22:58] <alex101> Closed synaptic now, ill try now :)
[22:58] <ZoiX> alex101: yeap
[22:58] <keit1> stefg: cheers but  was probing jodie
[22:58] <kazol_> amenado: It was generated by default.
[22:59] <stefg> !version | jodie
[22:59] <ubotu> jodie: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[22:59] <alex101> Thanks ZoiX its downloading now.
[22:59] <keit1> so was was the release cycle  6.04 -> 6.06 -> 6.10?
[22:59] <ZoiX> alex101: ok :)
[22:59] <amenado> kazol_-> let me check what the manual says
[22:59] <Cope57> every six months
[22:59] <Cope57> Just for Ubuntu though
[22:59] <kazol_> amenado: When I reboot, there is no internet connection-I have to open Network Manager and change the very long string to the temporary short key I have.
[23:00] <kazol_> amenado: So clearly the key in Network Manager is different from the actual key...maybe it's PSK?
[23:00] <keit1> Cope57: I joined the family at 6.06 then 7.04 then 7.10 and waiting with baited breath for hardy
[23:00] <Cope57> Personally I believe in using one release and have a continued rolling release. No need to download a new release every time.
[23:00] <archangelpetro> what package is needed to compile the NVIDIA driver, from their installation Bin?
[23:00] <kazol_> amenado: In that case, I don't understand why I have to enter my key each time for it to generate the same PSK.
[23:01] <javb_> jamesish, http://pastebin.com/m1de86e52, this is my interfaces.conf .. shoulnt i have adde my wireless or something
[23:01] <keit1> Cope57: i think that would be nice. so do you not use ubuntu?
[23:01] <javb_> Wow, this is weird, it was working just before doing some upgrade
[23:01] <wildman> amenado, it seems to have worked...
[23:01] <wildman> amenado, I've added (hd0) /dev/sda and (hd1) /dev/sdb to the .map files
[23:01] <Cope57> I use Debian, but I tried Ubuntu back with ver. 4.06
[23:01] <wildman> amenado, and now I'm supposedly on sdb's OS
[23:01] <amenado> kazol_-> i cant easily find the correct syntax of wpa-psk
[23:02] <amenado> wildman you can verify  via mount
[23:02] <wildman> amenado, I've touched a file on / called SEGUNDO (2nd) and I can see it on /
[23:02] <wildman> on sdb's /, that is
[23:02] <Level15> hi. i am using the alternate cd to recover my grub. the problem is that it is not being recovered... when i reboot, it still goes straight into windows, now grub menu or anything... any suggestions on how to fix it by hand?
[23:02] <wildman> amenado, however:
[23:02] <sarah____> hey guys, how do you customize terminal?
[23:03] <mactaylor> does ubuntu slow down like vista with more space used on the hdd?
[23:03] <wildman> amenado, mount tells me: /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[23:03] <sarah____> i.e when i do "ls" some files are green/orange/yellow" etc
[23:03] <sarah____> how come?
[23:03] <kindofabuzz> sarah____: different kinds of files
[23:03] <wildman> amenado, shouldn't it be telling me /dev/sdb1 instead? or grub changed sdb to sda at boot time?
[23:03] <amenado> wildman then you have not booted to sdb, did you select from grub menu the new entry you added?
[23:03] <stefg> Level15: getting the super grub disk and letting it do an autofix might be easiest
[23:03] <wildman> yes, I did
[23:03] <Cope57> sarah____ right click in terminal edit profile
[23:03] <alex101> Does anyone know any good mp3 recording programs for ubuntu, like, so i can record stuff from my microphone into an mp3 or soundfile?
[23:03] <Level15> stefg: supergrub disk... lemme find that
[23:04] <sarah____> cope57 is there any "themes" for terminal?
[23:04] <sarah____> or scripts?
[23:04] <amenado> wildman-> you can put a lil marker, like say you create another dir in /dev/sda that dont exist in /dev/sdb  and verify it htat way?
[23:04] <kindofabuzz> sarah____: they are supposed to be cloored to distinquish betwwn directorys and files, ant types of files
[23:04] <wildman> amenado, I'll reboot with normal entry, and be back shortly...
[23:04] <sarah____> oh i see
[23:04] <wildman> amenado, that's what I've tried with /SEGUNDO, but I'll make a folder better
[23:04] <wildman> amenado, back in a few mins
[23:04] <stefg> Level15: http://forjamari.linex.org/frs/?group_id=61
[23:04] <alex101> Does anyone know any good mp3 recording programs for ubuntu, like, so i can record stuff from my microphone into an mp3 or soundfile?
[23:05] <peter77> sarah____, themes for the terminal, you can create custom profiles etc!
[23:05] <Cope57> sarah____ I do not know what else you would want, I just have mine with a gray font and black background that is semi-transparent.
[23:05] <kindofabuzz> alex101: maybe overkill, but audicity
[23:05] <sarah____> creating a custome profile, im not good with "picking colors!"
 We can read lowercase too.
[23:05] <alex101> Yay :)
[23:06] <Cope57> actual themes are found in System > Preferences > Appearance
[23:06] <alex101> Sorry i was just happy bout having audacity lol.
[23:06] <ampex2> I have a bridge set up as my main interface and it includes eth0, I want to add an eth0:0 with a different IP but I can't seem to make it work with the bridge, any ideas?
[23:06] <alex101> Anyone got the terminal code for the Audacity install?
[23:06] <alex101> (I'm kindanew to linux)
[23:06] <Jowi> alex101, "soundconverter" is ok
[23:06] <Jowi> !info soundconverter
[23:06] <ubotu> Package soundconverter does not exist in gutsy
[23:06] <Jowi> ah. hmm
[23:06] <Cope57> sudo apt-get install audicity
[23:07] <alex101> Wish i knew how to just do that Cope57
[23:07] <alex101> lol
[23:07] <alex101> Wait, it said couldn't find package audacity
[23:08] <kazol_> alex101: Run terminal, type in "sudo apt-get install audacity"
[23:08] <mike_> nici un roman pe aici?
[23:08] <Cope57> audacity not found?
[23:08] <Jowi> !info audacity
[23:08] <ubotu> Package audacity does not exist in gutsy
[23:08] <sarah____> does anyone have their own pop3 for ubuntu?
[23:08] <alex101> Ah its working now
[23:08] <alex101> thank you.
[23:08] <Draggin> Good evening/morning!  I wonder if someone could direct me to a relevant page on installing software, since I'm not quite sure how to phrase my search and I'm not getting the results I need.  I would like some more information on how to go about installing software for specific users on an Ubuntu system (e.g. office_user would be the only one to have access to OpenOffice, sound_user the only one to have access to Ardour and Audacity, etc.
[23:08] <Jowi> in feisty it's in the universe repo....
[23:09] <kindofabuzz> alex101: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
[23:09] <kyncani> !info ubuntu-desktop
[23:09] <ubotu> Package ubuntu-desktop does not exist in gutsy
[23:09] <stefg> !software | Draggin
[23:09] <ubotu> Draggin: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[23:09] <jin__> sarah____: what do you mean with pop3?
[23:09] <sarah____> your own webmail
[23:09] <sarah____> pop3 account
[23:09] <kyncani> Jowi: this !info thing seems broken does not it ?
[23:09] <venka1> hello i cannot boot into ubuntu without acpi=off arg and with that it is oveheating
[23:09] <Draggin> Thanks, stefg - I'll have a look at that
[23:09] <jin__> sarah____: like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:09] <venka1> can anyone help me fix?
[23:09] <sarah____> no like sara@myhostname
[23:09] <wildman> amenado, well... I have a mix :)
[23:09] <Jowi> kyncani, it does. broken is a good word for it.
[23:09] <billy> im having issues with my display, its' really hard to explain, but like the text is repeating above itself..
[23:09] <ZoiX> Draggin: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy
[23:09] <Cope57> Draggin try http://ubuntuguide.org
[23:10] <wildman> amenado, when on normal boot, I've sudo mkdir /TOTO
[23:10] <sarah____> setting up a pop3 on ubuntu desktop i.e sara@myhostname
[23:10] <jin__> sarah____: ah, you are talking about an e-mail client
[23:10] <neztit2> لعغس شىغخىث نىخص صاثقث هس فاث ؤاشىىثمس خى ةغفافر؟؟
[23:10] <sarah____> yeah
[23:10] <jin__> sarah____: you can use evolution to check your mails
[23:10] <billy> i can barely see what everyone is writing, it looks like a really dirty inkjet printer, can anyone help?
[23:10] <CptAtom> hey guys
[23:10] <kelvin911> hello when i was playing World of Padman, the screen go black then it runs in window mode and i can not use mouse or keyboard and force me to hard reboot
[23:10] <amenado> wildman mix?
[23:10] <freeWordPressBlo> hi i just installed phpmyadmin via aptitude. the quick install refers to a config.inc.php file but i can't find it. where should it be located?
[23:10] <wildman> amenado, now, after rebooting with the entry I've added for sdb,  ls / | grep TOTO comes empty, which is perfect...
[23:10] <sarah____> jin__ no, i dont want to check my own email
[23:10] <sarah____> i want my "own" email
[23:10] <neztit2> guys any one can tell me where is the channels be on mythtv?
[23:10] <wildman> amenado, ... however:  mount | grep sd -> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[23:11] <stefg> Draggin: so do you just want to have custom menus for each user or do you want to actively prevent a particualr user from running , say, openoffice ?
[23:11] <alex101> Where will overkill and audacity be saved to? cuz i cant find them in the sound option in applications.
[23:11] <jin__> sarah____: then you need to setup a mail server.. :\
[23:11] <Jowi> billy, does a reboot solve it?
[23:11] <billy> it started right after a reboot lol
[23:11] <sarah____> to create my own pop3 account like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:11] <sarah____> i dont liek gmail/aol/hotmail
[23:11] <wildman> amenado, I can confirm the / is sdb's content
[23:11] <kindofabuzz> kelvin911: WoP is still buggy i think, it causes me sometime to go to 800x600 in a window, but sound is still running and i have to hard boot
[23:11] <sarah____> is it possible to do jin__?
[23:11] <billy> sarah: i think you have to have ur own email server for that
[23:11] <neztit2> guys pls help
[23:11] <neztit2> guys any one can tell me where is the channels be on mythtv?
[23:11] <jin__> sarah____: sarah____to do that,  you need your own domain name
[23:11] <billy> !ask|neztit2
[23:12] <ubotu> neztit2: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:12] <amenado> wildman-> check the /etc/fstab you have both in the existing and the one that is in /dev/sdb
[23:12] <wildman> amenado, sorry, again: I can confirm the / content is sdb's (that is the disk I've transferred everything too)
[23:12] <kelvin911> kindofabuzz: so how to fix that?
[23:12] <Tucci> I am unable to connect to a network now that a WEP password has been placed on it. My computer just keeps asking for the password every few minutes. Any help?
[23:12] <jin__> sarah____: yes, but then you need a pc that's 24/7 connected to the internet
[23:12] <kindofabuzz> kelvin911: i dunno, read the wop boards
[23:12] <Cope57> neztit2 I could not find a IRC channel
[23:12] <billy> jowi: any ideas?
[23:12] <Jowi> billy, sounds like the video ram is wacky. shutting the PC off *totally* and then start it up again. if that does not help.. umm..
[23:12] <jin__> sarah____: but you can do it with a hosting provider ;) much easier
[23:12] <Cope57> http://www.mythtv.org
[23:12] <kelvin911> kindofabuzz: just press the reset button? no other choice?
[23:12] <alex101> Does anyone know how i can open my audacity and overkill? cuz its not in sound section in applications.
[23:12] <wildman> amenado, I think that may be the pb, fstab is sda's, that's what's confuzing mount
[23:12] <billy> jowi: okay thanks, ill try it
[23:12] <amenado> wildman the /etc/fstab for /dev/sdb should be different  and not an exact copy of what is in /dev/sda
[23:12] <Level15> stefg: supergrub disk didn't fix it :(
[23:12] <tobberoth> Jowi: That link worked! My CLI is now beautiful. BUT, for some reason I got an american keyboard setting, even though my keyboard is swedish.
[23:12] <sarah____> but can't i do it with my ubuntu desktop jin__. I will only be able to acces it when its online. I can live with that.
[23:12] <kindofabuzz> kelvin911: try ctl-alt backspace first
[23:12] <kelvin911> kindofabuzz: i have video and sound, but in window mode and can not use mouse or keyboard
[23:13] <wildman> fstab has UUIDs too
[23:13] <kindofabuzz> kelvin911: yup that's exactly what i get
[23:13] <amenado> wildman-> well, you are doing things in adhoc, thats why all these mis-steps, if you planned it right.. :P
[23:13] <kelvin911> kindofabuzz: ok next time i got this error i try that
[23:13] <sarah____> jin__ what would i need to do this?
[23:13] <wildman> amenado, ok, I'm on the right path now (it seems)
[23:13] <kinnune> any1 know a good wine guide?
[23:13] <kelvin911> gota go to work
[23:13] <Jowi> tobberoth, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" should let you set "se" keymap
[23:13] <kelvin911> bye
[23:13] <neztit2> Cope57: what???
[23:13] <kelvin911> kindofabuzz: thx
[23:13] <kindofabuzz> kinnune: www.windhq.com
[23:13] <wildman> amenado, I did plan it right, it's just that's really messy to install the bootloader on the 2nd disk to make it bootable, not to mention that it will be the 1st disk once I remove the current 1st disk :P
[23:13] <Teslacuted> kinnune: some chablis can be very nice ;)
[23:13] <jin__> sarah____: then you still need a domain name, which will cost you around 8 usd a year
[23:13] <kindofabuzz> www.winehq.com =)
[23:14] <amenado> wildman the funny thing is you have to change these all again upon removal of current sda  and moving sdb in place of sda  ..hehe
[23:14] <wildman> yep :)
[23:14] <tobberoth> Jowi: Thanks!
[23:14] <jin__> sarah____: but this is not Ubuntu specific
[23:14] <Cope57> (05:12:16 PM) Cope57: neztit2 I could not find a IRC channel only http://www.mythtv.org
[23:14] <wildman> amenado, ok, I'm on the right track now, I'll make modifs later and check
[23:14] <Jowi> tobberoth, ÅÄÖ is needed in CLI after all ;)
[23:14] <wildman> amenado, then, remove sda and we'll see :)
[23:14] <kinnune> i think its winehq.org
[23:14] <sarah____> yeah i know jin__ thanks
[23:14] <amenado> wildman the key part is you know you can boot from /dev/sdb as of now..
[23:14] <kindofabuzz> sarah____: gmail is one of the best services out there
[23:14] <neztit2> Cope57: thank you man
[23:14] <wildman> amenado, gotta go now, thanks for your wisdom, time and patience
[23:14] <mad_max02> CMON ALL SING " HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME " :D
[23:14] <amenado> wildman you're welcome
[23:15] <wildman> bye ppl
[23:15] <sarah____> kindofabuzz i know, they are good, but im doing this for a learning experiance
[23:15] <wildman> amenado, thx again
[23:15] <Jowi> mad_max02, but... it is not my birthday :-(
[23:15] <tobberoth> Jowi, it says console-setup is broken or not fully installed
[23:15] <kindofabuzz> i think sarah____ likes to customize ALOT, that's why she wants her own, just like she was talking about the colors of terminal
[23:15] <sarah____> :) yup
[23:15] <Jowi> tobberoth, apt-cache policy console-setup
[23:15] <Cope57> she hates brown that's wgy
[23:15] <Cope57> err why
[23:15] <sarah____> i got white/green colors now with a transparent background
[23:15] <Jowi> tobberoth, does it say it is installed?
[23:15] <sarah____> neato huh :P
[23:15] <gio> kkm
[23:16] <kindofabuzz> sarah____: well that's the beauty of linux.. you can do almost anything (as long as you know how) =)
[23:16] <tobberoth> Jowi: it says installed (none)
[23:16] <Jowi> tobberoth, sudo apt-get install console-setup
[23:16] <sarah____> i need to get my AWN working again,argh. Somethines happend i had to remove it
[23:16] <patrick_> !paste
[23:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[23:17] <CptAtom> guys, i have one question. i am using hardy heron beta right now...after every restart of my system, the ip settings for my eth0 are gone. they are still displayed correctly on the network manager GUI but i ll have to configure them completely new with "ifconfig" and "route"....any suggestion where i could fix that. i never encountered that problem before with ubuntu
[23:17] <Groudas> http://dpaste.com/hold/42640/   <----- can anyone help me?
[23:17] <Jowi> CptAtom, #ubuntu+1 for hardy
[23:17] <CptAtom> thanks
[23:17] <stefg> !hardy | CptAtom
[23:17] <ubotu> CptAtom: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:18] <Cope57> Linux is extremely customizable, but it seems many Windows users do not like change. I have seen so many "default" wallpapers and settings on XP it is just unbelievable.
[23:18] <tobberoth> Jowi: Awesome, just installing console-setup fixed the problem :) My virtual consoles font got ugly though ;)
[23:18] <Groudas> http://dpaste.com/hold/42640/   <----- can anyone help me?
[23:18] <kindofabuzz> Groudas: change the emulation dir to the right dir?
[23:18] <kindofabuzz> no idea how in that, but look around
[23:19] <Jowi> tobberoth, that I know nothing about. Had to import my swedish keyboard. Only azerty ones to be found in France unfourtunatley.
[23:19] <Cope57> ubotu is a spambot lol
[23:19] <Groudas> kindo: what do you mean?
[23:19] <tobberoth> Jowi: Oh i see... Well, I also have another problem, which I've gotten used to: My monitor doesn't like the 1024x768 resolution
[23:19] <stefg> !info console-terminus | tobberoth:
[23:19] <ubotu> tobberoth:: Package console-terminus does not exist in gutsy
[23:19] <Groudas> i installed zsnes via apt-get
[23:19] <R3h4B> anybody know anything about DHT?
[23:19] <tobberoth> it's a 1680x1050 22" HD flatscreen monitor from korea :P
[23:20] <kindofabuzz> Groudas: well the error says it points to so and so. evidentlly it's not there
[23:20] <Jowi> tobberoth, in CLI? define "doesn't like"
[23:20] <Jowi> tobberoth, ah
[23:20] <tobberoth> Jowi: It gets smudged... it's still easily readable, but hardly crisp
[23:20] <Cope57> tobberoth 1680x1050 kind of explains it.
[23:20] <kindofabuzz> Groudas: actuelly it says cannot create mcop dir, try running it as sudo then
[23:20] <Groudas> ummm..... ok thanks... let me see if anything is wrong
[23:20] <tobberoth> Cope57: Yeah, I've heard linux isn't up for it yet
[23:20] <soapee01> does anyone know how to make apt ignore a package when upgrading?  This mess was caused by libgpod2 thin liquid film and python-gpod
[23:20] <sarah____> does anyone run ircd on their ubuntu?
[23:21] <Cope57> 1680x1050 would be the default screen resolution
[23:21] <cocozzapirla> ciao a tutti
[23:21] <Groudas> kindo: same issue running as root
[23:21] <amenado> tobberoth-> dont expect aspect ratio to be same on lcd monitors to be same as in those wide screen tv monitors
[23:21] <Cope57> Actually Linux up to it, I do not know if Ubuntu like it though
[23:21] <tobberoth> Cope57: Yeah, in Win XP it looks amazing in 1680x1050, but I've never gotten it to work in linux
[23:21] <Alan_M> !ping
[23:21] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[23:21] <Groudas> doesnt matter running as root or via sudo
[23:21] <venka1> hello, i cant boot into ubuntu without acpi=off but that is causing my computer to oveheat
[23:21] <venka1> any fix
[23:21] <kindofabuzz> Groudas: *shrug* try the znes forums
[23:21] <venka1> ?
[23:22] <Groudas> ilkindo: ok thanks the helo
[23:22] <Groudas> help
[23:22] <billy> im having trouble with my display, it looks like a malfunctioning inkjet printer
[23:22] <jwithee> Does apt or dpkg have a way to reset permissions for all files in the package?
[23:22] <amenado> venka1-> it would not boot if acpi=off ?
[23:22] <c-ron> venka1: see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476489
[23:22] <venka1> nono
[23:22] <venka1> if i do not use acpi=off
[23:22] <venka1> it does not boot
[23:23] <dniel> Where can I download the ubuntu that has the same installation of debian?
[23:23] <venka1> like it hangs at the ubuntu splash screen
[23:23] <dniel> console installation
[23:23] <insomninja> jwithee, maybe apt-get reinstal xyz
[23:23] <stefg> !alternate | dniel
[23:23] <ubotu> dniel: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[23:23] <RavenTrigun> I have a question about downloading something
[23:23] <insomninja> jwithee, reinstall that is of course
[23:24] <RavenTrigun> It says its for linux but its just a bunch of files in a folder
[23:24] <RavenTrigun> im asuming its not compiled
[23:24] <Jowi> tobberoth, I think you will have to set the native rez in grub but not using "vga=". I found a link the other day... need to search for it
[23:24] <RavenTrigun> so how would i compile it?
[23:24] <sarah____> does anyone run ircd on their ubuntu?
[23:24] <dniel> stefg: thanks!
[23:24] <Cope57> tobberoth check IM
[23:24] <billy> how do i take a screenshot?
[23:25] <c-ron> RavenTrigun: does the archive (i'm assuming .tgz) have a README?
[23:25] <Tu13es> bleh, I got my Mini booting from CD but it hangs booting ubuntu and starting the RAM test
[23:25] <amenado> billy xwd ?
[23:25] <RavenTrigun> I don't know and its in .zip format.
[23:25] <billy> can anyone tell me how to take a screenshot?
[23:25] <billy> oh
[23:25] <billy> uhmm wuts taht?
[23:25] <dniel> stefg: which is the link of alternate?
[23:25] <jwithee> insomninja: I didn't want to reinstall the package, because I have configured them, but I wanted to reset the permissions on all the files in the package
[23:25] <c-ron> RavenTrigun: what's the file?
[23:25] <billy> amenado: my display is acting really really wierd
[23:25] <RavenTrigun> Its a MMORPG called Eternal Lands
[23:26] <RavenTrigun> www.eternal-lands.com
[23:26] <amenado> billy i dont know the exact options, but i know its xwd is the tool you use
[23:26] <billy> k thanks
[23:26] <Zelta> !worksforme
[23:26] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[23:26] <Zelta> so THAT is the command to do that!
[23:27] <stefg> !mirrors | dniel
[23:27] <ubotu> dniel: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[23:27] <billy> if i show u a picture of wut my display is doing think u can help?
[23:27] <billy> anyone?
[23:27] <Cope57> try
[23:27] <sarah____> how can i upgrade to hardy?
[23:27] <dniel> stefg: what is the alternate link?
[23:27] <RavenTrigun> !upgrade
[23:27] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[23:27] <dniel> stefg: ahh ok! thaks!
[23:27] <insomninja> jwithee, then I don't think there's a simple way, since I don't think the permission setup is in a separate file from the other setup stuff like moving files etc
[23:28] <billy> amenado: do you know much about display problems?
[23:28] <insomninja> jwithee, if the configurations are in your home folder you could just make a backup
[23:28] <jwithee> insomninja: I was hoping the the .deb packages had install scripts that included changing file permsions
[23:29] <billy> http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b119/splatter951/Screenshot.png will someone look at that and tell me if they can help me fix it?
[23:29] <c-ron> RavenTrigun: have you extracted the zip file?
[23:29] <stefg> !software | RavenTrigun
[23:29] <ubotu> RavenTrigun: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[23:29] <RavenTrigun> Yes
[23:29] <RavenTrigun> No read me.
[23:29] <billy> anyone?
[23:30] <jodie> new to irc ing on freenode. I was asked ealier to include (pasting) the output of a file. Is this proper? Is there another way to do it?
[23:30] <Cope57> For one billy , You should download your updates in the top right corner, it might fix it.
[23:30] <billy> paste.ubuntu.org?
[23:30] <stefg> !paste | jodie
[23:30] <ubotu> jodie: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[23:30] <ader10> How can I get the "shadow" desktop session for freenx to work?
[23:30] <billy> cope57: the updates arent showing up
[23:30] <justin007827> hello, I followed the dirrections to get my Nvidea tv-out working by editing the xorg file. It worked fine, except, I am having overscan. Any ideas on how to fix, or where to look?
[23:30] <insomninja> jwithee, what kind of configuration is it you have done? personal preferences or serious change? what program?
[23:31] <justin007827> I can not see my task bar
[23:31] <c-ron> RavenTrigun: the install instructions for that game on linux are on the website: http://www.eternal-lands.com/page/download.php
[23:31] <dniel> What is the differen between debian and ubuntu alternate?
[23:31] <Cope57> billy , check the other desktop
[23:31] <dniel> its package?
[23:31] <c-ron> RavenTrigun: under To play on Linux:
[23:31] <ChaosTheory> I can't get flash to work. :(
[23:31] <dniel> its packages?
[23:31] <billy> cope57 nope there's nothing there
[23:31] <tobberoth> How do I access an NTFS partition from CLI? I'm on 7.10 and I think I have the 3G thingy aswell
[23:31] <billy> ill just go to the update manager
[23:31] <jodie> thanks I'll start there
[23:32] <Adman65> Hey
[23:32] <ader10> How can I get the "shadow" desktop session for freenx to work?
[23:32] <billy> cope57: the update manager says my system is up to date
[23:32] <Adman65> how do i configure proxy?
[23:32] <Adman65> i need all internet connection requests to go to another computer
[23:32] <nickweb> hey folks, is there a quick and easy way to reinstall ubuntu from fresh? I currently have it dual booting with xp, and want to keep xp, but reinstall ubuntu from scratch..
[23:33] <mactaylor> is jfs more fast than EXT3????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
[23:33] <c-ron> nickweb: use the LiveCD
[23:33] <jwithee> well the truth is.  I was trying to change the home directories so no one has rights except owner.  I ran "chmod go= -R .*' to get all the local files. As root :(.  When did this it traversed back to /var /sbin /boot and /sys.  I was able to fix /boot /sbin /sys, but var is a mess.
[23:33] <phixxor> hey, I have a slow computer - what can I do to decrease my cpu usage so my computer isn't slow when using firefox
[23:33] <nickweb> c-ron:  will that wipe all the partitions, inc. home?
[23:33] <justin007827> also, nvtv is not working.
[23:33] <jwithee> I have all the packages cached, and I was hoping to be able to run a script that would fix all the permissions.
[23:33] <archangelpetro> has anyone here installed an Nvidia GeForce 8400 GS?
[23:34] <stefg> phixxor: so what do you have (cpu/ram) ?
[23:34] <justin007827> i just did archangelpetro
[23:34] <Cope57> billy in the terminal try this
[23:34] <Cope57> sudo fc-cache -f -v
[23:34] <Draggin> !packages
[23:34] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[23:34] <Cope57> It will reconfigure your fonts cache
[23:34] <phixxor> stefg: 733MHz cpu, can't remember how much ram
[23:34] <xs142> Umm, I just managed to lock myself out of the ability to even change the time, what to do?
[23:34] <Draggin> !Equivalents
[23:34] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[23:34] <c-ron> nickweb: not unless you want it to... which you probably don't! select manual partitioning when you run the installer
[23:34] <unop> xs142, sudo not working?
[23:35] <jwithee> insomninja: well the truth is.  I was trying to change the home directories so no one has rights except owner.  I ran "chmod go= -R .*' to get all the local files. As root :(.  When did this it traversed back to /var /sbin /boot and /sys.  I was able to fix /boot /sbin /sys, but var is a mess.
[23:35] <stefg> phixxor: ram might be the bottleneck.... run free -m
[23:35] <justin007827> ubotu: do you know anything about fixing overscan issues with nvidia tv out function?
[23:35] <xs142> unop: Umm... Maybe...?
[23:35] <jwithee> Iinsomninja: have all the packages cached, and I was hoping to be able to run a script that would fix all the permissions.
[23:35] <nickweb> c-ron:  yeah, I want EVERYTHING wiped. as in just installing ubuntu for the first time :D
[23:35] <billy> didn't work
[23:35] <ader10> How can I get the "shadow" desktop session for freenx to work?
[23:35] <nickweb> right
[23:35] <nickweb> im off to destroy a couple of partitions :D
[23:36] <phixxor> stefg: total: 503, used: 432: free: 71
[23:36] <c-ron> nickweb: choose manual so you dont wipe xp???
[23:36] <keit1> file-roller consistently keeps adding "(2)" as a suffix to all unzipped folder that were group selected then extracted - how can I stop this????
[23:36] <Positronic> Hello all, my version of Ubuntu freezes when suspended? Anyone know the solution for that?
[23:36] <c-ron> hehe
[23:36] <unop> xs142, you can only change the system's date/time if you are a superuser .. haw are you trying to change the date?
[23:36] <jwithee> insomninja: thanks for your help. I am going to see what I can do.
[23:36] <insomninja> jwithee, hmm that is a tricky one indeed, but I would guess that the problem would go beyond packages
[23:36] <keit1> Positronic: same here.  suspend just _does_not_work_ for me
[23:36] <Cope57> Positronic Linux does not like suspend or hibernate
[23:36] <venka1> hello, iam booting ubuntu with acpi=off irqpoll pnpbios=off are these arg very bad to use or it is not going to hurt much?
[23:37] <keit1> Positronic: presume hibernate is the same
[23:37] <insomninja> jwithee, good luck, but I personally think a backup and reinstall is your best option
[23:37] <dimitree> Where is the default install location of Java Dev Kit installed from repo ?
[23:37] <ader10> How can I get the "shadow" desktop session for freenx to work?
[23:37] <xs142> unop: Rightclicking the clock and pressing 'adjust'? Point of the matter however is that I kinda lost all other administrative priviledges, like making users, and i want'em back..
[23:37] <stefg> phixxor: you might want to look at epiphany or opera even... firefox2 is a hog, but 512 MB Ram is ok. avoid to many extensions
[23:37] <Positronic> Cope57, I was beginning to think so...
[23:37] <c-ron> venka1: works fine for many
[23:37] <Positronic> keit1, at least im not the only one
[23:37] <venka1> c-ron, ok
[23:37] <Positronic> ;P
[23:37] <venka1> c-ron, are you using these too ?
[23:37] <keit1> Positronic: no you most certainly are not! ;)
[23:37] <keit1> Positronic: log-off or shutdwon are the only 2 options at the mo
[23:37] <billy> cope57: that didn't work
[23:38] <Draggin> stefg - sorry to bug you again, but I don't seem to find the information I'm looking for on any of those pages either - I want to know how to make sure that certain applications are available for certain users...
[23:38] <c-ron> venka1: i only use acpi=off, but if that's causing problems, you can add other parameters
[23:38] <billy> its still doing it some
[23:38] <streak> Hello
[23:38] <billy> wait now it stopped after a watched a video?
[23:38] <mactaylor> is jfs more fast than ext3?
[23:38] <venka1> c-ron: doesn't your computer heat up ?
[23:38] <venka1> with just acpi
[23:38] <ader10> How can I get the "shadow" desktop session for freenx to work?
[23:38] <phixxor> stefg: alright, I'll check those out -- but the main problem is whenever I'm on youtube, the cpu goes to 100%. I'm listening to last.fm radio right now and I'm already at around 30%
[23:38] <keit1> this is the second time a system has started doing this with file-roller so surely someone else must have experienced it too
[23:38] <Cope57> billy: does it do that only in the browser or all applications?
[23:38] <stefg> Draggin: only in terms of menu entries, or do you want to have strict control over who can run which app ?
[23:38] <Positronic> keit1, when linux is operating it seems that my laptop also builds up an excessive amount of heat.... it bothers me
[23:38] <phixxor> stefg: is there anything I can do about that?
[23:39] <stefg> phixxor: that's flash ....
[23:39] <c-ron> venka1: nope works fine...
[23:39] <billy> cope57: it does it in pidgin and firefox so far
[23:39] <jacob_> for ubuntu fans: www.system76.com
[23:39] <Draggin> stefg - menu entries for now - I think I'll worry about restricting the usage later, but if you have a link for a howto on that as well, I'd appreciate it
[23:39] <keit1> Positronic: you might wanna check that you have disabled that option regarding HDD and spin-ups, though doubt that would generate any serious heat
[23:40] <c-ron> venka1: you also could try the noacpi parameter.. go with whatever works for your system
[23:40] <billy> cope57: its not doing it now for some reason tho
[23:40] <ChaosTheory> I can't get Flash to work. =(
[23:40] <billy> how do i get firefox to play videos?
[23:40] <phixxor> stefg: so there's nothing I can do about it but use a newer computer?
[23:40] <Cope57> billy: what I did probably fixed it, just took a little time
[23:40] <stefg> Draggi: just right click on 'Apllications' choose 'edit menu' and make them suite your needs
[23:40] <phixxor> billy: flash videos?
[23:41] <Positronic> yeah the heat generated is near the back of my laptop I dont think that is where the HDD is located
[23:41] <Cope57> ChaosTheory is having trouble w/flash
[23:41] <billy> phixxor: yea
[23:41] <Positronic> keit1,  yeah the heat generated is near the back of my laptop I dont think that is where the HDD is located
[23:41] <keit1> Positronic: most likely the cpu
[23:41] <Cope57> billy had font issues
[23:41] <billy> i got gnash but its not working
[23:41] <xs142> upon so I figured I should get in as root and set my rights back ?
[23:41] <sphinxx> hey nikrud you here?
[23:41] <keit1> billy: gnash wasn't too hot for flv playback last time i checked
[23:41] <ader10> How can I get the "shadow" desktop session for freenx to work?
[23:41] <Cope57> gnash is not that great
[23:41] <phixxor> billy: there's a firefox plugin you have to get... libflash-mozplugin
[23:42] <unop> xs142, what does this command return? id
[23:42] <Draggin> stefg - It's really that simple?  IOW, log in with the relevant user account and customise the menu for that user?
[23:42] <phixxor> billy: reinstall it if you already have it, that's what I had to do once
[23:42] <billy> phixxor: where do i find that? package manager?
[23:42] <nikrud> sphinxx at work, be around in a couple hours
[23:42] <sphinxx> oh ok
[23:42] <keit1> anyone think that flashplayer9 isn't that great either. need's some serious optimisation!
[23:42] <stefg> phixxor: adobe's flash is the problem... but all free implementations don't work for youtube. it might be related to sound output
[23:42] <sphinxx> i just had a question about /boot
[23:42] <phixxor> billy: sudo apt-get install libflash-mozplugin
[23:42] <billy> youtube works but otherones dont
[23:43] <Pelican> msg bot invite #what.cd conv3rg3nc3
[23:43] <keit1> stefg: abobe need to stop messing about and open up their platform
[23:43] <stefg> Draggin: Ubuntu is user friendly! :-) It's just picky about who are its friends :-)
[23:43] <sphinxx> if theres no separate /boot partition, if the boot loader got corrupted somehow, from either my linux or windows partitions, would i be screwed?
[23:43] <Pelican> goddamnit
[23:43] <phixxor> stefg: ah. I had no idea
[23:43] <ader10> How can I get the "shadow" desktop session for freenx to work?
[23:43] <Draggin> stefg - haha :) I'm trying hard to be its friend though :)
[23:43] <arthur37854> i have a question about vlc? my samsung phone records video into .3g2 format i can get vlc to play the video with out sound i get this msg main error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `mp4a'. VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.
[23:43] <billy> brb
[23:43] <ricanelite> is Hardy going to work with Compiz?
[23:43] <Pelican> of course
[23:44] <justin007827> i ran nvidia setting from the comand prompt, but I cant find the overscan settings. Can anyone help me?
[23:44] <keit1> ricanelite: gutsy works with compiz!
[23:44] <Pelican> does anyone know anything about a better bluetooth stack?
[23:44] <xs142> upon: what command?
[23:44] <xs142> id?
[23:44] <c-ron> sphinxx: see http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/
[23:44] <phixxor> sphinxx: you would still be able to boot from the livecd and fix stuff up, or at least recover some files
[23:44] <ricanelite> yeah but I when hardy comes out later in the month
[23:44] <ricanelite> Im just wondering if it will work
[23:44] <keit1> ricanelite: yes
[23:44] <Pelican> like one that works with samsung phones?
[23:44] <ricanelite> okay
[23:44] <mcquaid> ricanelite, it works now with gutsy
[23:44] <unop> xs142, open up a terminal and type this out.  id<enter>
[23:44] <keit1> ricanelite: depending on *your* card
[23:45] <rumplesmigskin> Hi. I'm currently using the radeonfb driver, and wondering if there's a nice way to start a second X server on a different TTY using the fglrx driver.
[23:45] <ricanelite> yeah i have compiz working perfect
[23:45] <keit1> ricanelite: then it will be fine
[23:45] <ricanelite> just was wondering if it was going to work in the new OS
[23:45] <ricanelite> okay
[23:45] <xs142> upon, uid=1000(xs142) gid=1000(xs142) groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),112(netdev),113(lpadmin),115(powerdev),1000(xs142)
[23:45] <mcquaid> so why would you think it wouldn't work with hardy?
[23:45] <ricanelite> is the beta stable?
[23:45] <ricanelite> dont know
[23:45] <ricanelite> cause i have bad luck with linux
[23:45] <sphinxx> phixx, thanks
[23:45] <c-ron> sphinxx: also see http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[23:45] <keit1> ricanelite: but it already does. so it's fairly safe to say that the _next_release_on_ will have it working too?! :)
[23:46] <Cope57> beta is basically beta-testing
[23:46] <ChaosTheory> I have installed flash but when I try to view a video it asks "Install suitable codec?"
[23:46] <keit1> ricanelite: haven't tried the beta
[23:46] <ChaosTheory> T_T
[23:46] <Pelican> flash and ubuntu suck
[23:46] <ricanelite> ok
[23:46] <UnSuNgLoSeR> XiXaQ am back
[23:46] <Cope57> usable but not stable
[23:46] <UnSuNgLoSeR> with a long list of problems
[23:46] <keit1> ricanelite: it is released on APril 23~
[23:46] <Cope57> Flash is great
[23:46] <ricanelite> yeah i kno
[23:46] <ricanelite> i know cant wait
[23:46] <ChaosTheory> Cope57: Do you know how to fix it? =P
[23:46] <keit1> ricanelite: stable LTS
[23:46] <archangelpetro> justin007827,  hey, how did yo udo it? did you compile it using the NVIDIA binary? or did u use ubuntu packages??
[23:46] <mcquaid> flash is the scum of the internet
[23:46] <keit1> ricanelite: same here ;)
[23:47] <ChaosTheory> Cope57: I know it's easier said than done. =D
[23:47] <phixxor> ChaosTheory: are you using firefox? did you install the mozplugin
[23:47] <ChaosTheory> Yes, I'm using Firefox.
[23:47] <jchase> FF3?
[23:47] <mcquaid> ChaosTheory, just install flash-nonfree
[23:47] <sphinxx> hey guys i just set up dual boot for ubuntu/winxp on my laptop and now i want to do it on my desktop, im curious how to set up the partitions
[23:47] <ricanelite> the only issue i have a problem is with i have a account at mlb.tv
[23:47] <ricanelite> but omg the videos wont play
[23:47] <mcquaid> you should be fine
[23:47] <sphinxx> ill have like 30-40gb available for linux
[23:47] <unop> xs142, ok, try this command out.  sudo usermod -G admin $USER
[23:47] <ricanelite> because i think the site is using that Microsoft Silver Light
[23:47] <keit1> ChaosTheory:  did you restart FF?
[23:47] <ChaosTheory> phixxor: I just installed it.
[23:47] <unop> xs142, and then log out and log back in
[23:47] <sphinxx> like i didnt do a /home on my laptop because i had so little space
[23:47] <phixxor> ChaosTheory: mmm, sucks, idk what to do then
[23:48] <sphinxx> but im curious as to the benefits of creating separate partitions for /tmp and such
[23:48] <UnSuNgLoSeR> i tried to install kppp but it wont widout internet
[23:48] <Adman65> anyone gimme a hand setting up a sytem wide proxy?
[23:48] <Cope57> ChaosTheory check PM
[23:48] <c-ron> sphinxx: have just one physical harddrive?
[23:48] <keit1> ChaosTheory:  did you dl the tar from adboe.com then untar and run the installer in your terminal?
[23:48] <ChaosTheory> Huzzah.
[23:48] <UnSuNgLoSeR> and connecting to the inet wid ubuntu is my problem in the first place!
[23:48] <Draggin> stefg - Last time I'll bug you - if I did become interested in restricting users to use certain applications, where could I have a look to learn how to achieve that?
[23:48] <keit1> ChaosTheory:  restart work?
[23:48] <Pelican> so anyone know about a not lame bluetooth stack?
[23:48] <UnSuNgLoSeR> i installed ubuntu from the live CD!
[23:48] <ChaosTheory> Nope. =D
[23:48] <ChaosTheory> Didn't work. Installed mozplugin.
[23:48] <mcquaid> you don't need to restart for flash, well maybe the browser
[23:49] <mcquaid> install this http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/flashplugin-nonfree
[23:49] <ChaosTheory> keit1: One second.
[23:49] <Positronic> keit1, did you just comment out ACPI_SLEEP to remove suspend to RAM?
[23:49] <mcquaid> check about:plugins to see if it's there
[23:49] <armory555> dose any one kno how to install system sound themes?
[23:49] <xs142> upon, no luck
[23:49] <keit1> Positronic: no
[23:49] <phixxor> sphinxx: definitely create a separate one for /home -- other specialized partitions are mostly useful for servers where you don't want things like /var becoming too big by accident and taking over
[23:49] <Positronic> keit1, not recommended or just didnt do it?
[23:49] <unop> sphinxx, performance. usually when you want a different set of mount options for different parts of the filesystem, defragmentation, etc, etc
[23:50] <billy> can anyone help with my video playing problems?
[23:50] <stefg> Draggin: afaik that would involve creating groups and make certain files only executable by these groups
[23:50] <keit1> Positronic: just didn't do it
[23:50] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Okay, I have the tar.gz. What do I do now?
[23:50] <danny> How can I share my media directories and drives on Ubuntu so I could access them on my Xbox360? In windows I would use media player but here???
[23:50] <stefg> !permissions | Draggin
[23:50] <ubotu> Draggin: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[23:50] <billy> specifically flash videos in firefox
[23:50] <Cope57> ChaosTheory you using 64bit
[23:50] <phixxor> billy: didn't work?
[23:50] <billy> nope
[23:50] <unop> !samba | danny
[23:50] <ubotu> danny: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[23:50] <phixxor> :(
[23:50] <Draggin> stefg - thanks, I thought that might be the case.  Thanks again for the help.
[23:50] <keit1> ChaosTheory: if you already got flash working then no need
[23:50] <ChaosTheory> Cope57: No.
[23:50] <phixxor> !flash
[23:50] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[23:50] <ChaosTheory> keit1: I don't have Flash working. =(
[23:50] <billy> phixxor: wut other options do i have?
[23:50] <sarah____> !info update
[23:50] <ubotu> Package update does not exist in gutsy
[23:50] <billy> oh okay
[23:50] <armory555> gnash sucks
[23:50] <sarah____> can i update to hardy haron with wireless?
[23:50] <UnSuNgLoSeR> need help!
[23:50] <billy> gnash does suck
[23:50] <phixxor> yeah
[23:51] <phixxor> youtube doesn't work with gnash I've heard
[23:51] <danny> ubotu: thanks
[23:51] <ubotu> You're welcome!  Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:51] <orudie> how can i remove a user ?
[23:51] <Chatiel> ok, muchas gracias Stefg
[23:52] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Drag it into the terminal?
[23:52] <sarah____> can i update to hardy haron with wireless?
[23:52] <Kaja> sarah____, sure
[23:52] <Cope57> ChaosTheory http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Browser_Plug-ins
[23:52] <keit1> ChaosTheory: the installer file inside the folder
[23:52] <sarah____> Kaja really?
[23:52] <cwesterburg> has anyone had success with installing Hardy
[23:52] <billy> im reinstalling the flash nonfree cuz i had it but it doesn't work for some reason..
[23:52] <cwesterburg> Heron on a new MacBook Pro?
[23:52] <warriorforgod> cwesterburg: I have
[23:52] <armory555> uh yea lol if u have internet the it should do it lol but i think hardy didnt come out yet ui thought the beta just did lol
[23:52] <stond> Can some one please help me with a problem I am having with Kaffine I am trrying to watch a video but it keeps popping up an window saying Audio output unavailable. Device is busy. () I have Kaffine 0.8.6 and I never had this problem before can someone please help
[23:52] <orudie> is the new ubuntu out ?
[23:52] <xs142> unop, no luck
[23:52] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Yes, I see it, but nothing appears to happen when I drag it into the terminal. . .
[23:52] <UnSuNgLoSeR> anyone willing to help me out?
[23:52] <sarah____> cwesterburg: macbook air :) is nicer
[23:52] <Kaja> sarah____, yeah really.
[23:53] <sarah____> Kaja how long will it take?
[23:53] <keit1> ChaosTheory: its called -- "flashplayer-installer"
[23:53] <unop> xs142, what does id report now?
[23:53] <stefg> stond: #kubuntu
[23:54] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Yes, that is what I'm trying to "drag. . ."
[23:54] <keit1> ChaosTheory: press enter
[23:54] <armory555> dose any kno sum useful stuff lol like things i mabye need or mabye of use lol
[23:54] <xs142> unop uid=1000(xs142) gid=1000(xs142) groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),112(netdev),113(lpadmin),115(powerdev),1000(xs142)
[23:54] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Maybe I'm dragging it incorrectly.
[23:54] <urthmover> ok I'm really cwesterburg
[23:54] <urthmover> ok
[23:54] <keit1> ChaosTheory: did you unzip it first?
[23:54] <UnSuNgLoSeR> hello!
[23:54] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Should I extract it somewhere first?
[23:54] <UnSuNgLoSeR> Laughs!
[23:54] <urthmover> so yes hardy heron works great on a macbook pro....including wifi and all the snazzy graphics right?
[23:54] <keit1> ChaosTheory: yes
[23:55] <Cope57> UnSuNgLoSeR what type of connection do you have?
[23:55] <Kaja> sarah____, depends on your connection speed. The update-manager gives a nice estimation.
[23:55] <UnSuNgLoSeR> 3G
[23:55] <UnSuNgLoSeR> UTMS
[23:55] <sarah____> thanks
[23:55] <sarah____> Kaja are you on hardy?
[23:55] <Kaja> sarah____, yeah.
[23:55] <keit1> ChaosTheory: extract, hit alt+f2, type gnome-terminal, drag installer, hit  enter, follow instructions
[23:55] <sarah____> how do you like it?
[23:55] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Okay, it says the installation is complete. . .
[23:55] <keit1> restart firefox
[23:55] <unop> xs142, ok, that failed somehow.. try this.  sudo useradd -G admin $USER
[23:55] <Kaja> sarah____, best version of Ubuntu so far.
[23:56] <keit1> ChaosTheory: ^^
[23:56] <billy> where can i dl the 32 bit version of firefox?
[23:56]  * keit1 can't wait for hardy!!!!! w00t
[23:56] <xs142> unop didn't report anything wrong atleast...
[23:56] <Cope57> billy, why?
[23:56] <stefg> sarah____: you might want to head for #ubuntu-offtopic for socal chatter, and to #ubuntu+1 for hardy support/questions
[23:56] <keit1> ChaosTheory: how did you get on?
[23:56] <ChaosTheory> keit1: I'm on Youtube. It's asking me "Search for a suitable codec?"
[23:56] <billy> cope57: so i can use flash
[23:56] <Jordan_U> urthmover, What model macbook pro?
[23:56] <ChaosTheory> keit1: get on?
[23:56] <mouseboyx> can you monitor all trafic on a network, not just on a single machine?
[23:56] <arthur37854> i have a question about vlc? my samsung phone records video into .3g2 format i can get vlc to play the video with out sound i get this msg main error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `mp4a'. VLC probably does not support this sound or video format. is there some codecs i need to download or what?
[23:56] <keit1> did you clear your cache and restart firefox?
[23:57] <UnSuNgLoSeR> Cope57 am around
[23:57] <benanzo> can rsync store updated files in a separate directory instead of overwriting the orig or backing it up?  It would be useful for incrementals
[23:57] <Cope57> billy I have flash w/64bit browser
[23:57] <sarah____> can i update my kernel without getting hardy Kaja?
[23:57] <billy> keit1: no lol
[23:57] <sarah____> im on gusty
[23:57] <keit1> ChaosTheory: download managers and all
[23:57] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Sorry, I don't understand.
[23:57] <unop> xs142, ok, once you have run that command. what does this report?  grep -i admin /etc/group
[23:57] <Jordan_U> sarah____, Why do you want to?
[23:57] <keit1> ChaosTheory: open firefox
[23:57] <billy> keit1: i just did that now im gonna see if it works
[23:57] <urthmover> sorry I got distracted ... I have a penryn 2.6
[23:58] <keit1> ChaosTheory: hit ctrl+shift+del to clear your cache (press enter at prompt)
[23:58] <urthmover> where do I find the model per say?
[23:58] <xs142> unop lpadmin:x:113:xs142
[23:58] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Okay, done.
[23:58] <xs142> admin:x:117:root
[23:58] <billy> keit1: still not working.. what can i do?
[23:58] <keit1> ChaosTheory: close firefox (plus any other window's like download managers)
[23:58] <keit1> ChaosTheory: restart firefox
[23:58] <ampex2> does hardy have dmraid support?
[23:58] <UnSuNgLoSeR> okay Cope57 i have a wireless modem which goes by the name huawei ETS2551
[23:58] <Cope57> thankslooking now
[23:58] <keit1> ChaosTheory: in the address bar type about:plugins
[23:58] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Okay, done.
[23:59] <Jordan_U> urthmover, Is it the Core Duo, Core 2 Duo etc? ( and please respond with my nick or I may miss it )
[23:59] <ChaosTheory> keit1: Okay, then?
[23:59] <billy> keit1: how do i make the flash work in firefox?
[23:59] <UnSuNgLoSeR> ubuntu device manager shows that the device has been detected and is ready to use
[23:59] <Cope57> billy w/64bit?
[23:59] <UnSuNgLoSeR> but when i try to connect through it i get nuffin
[23:59] <sarah____> i want the benefits of a updated kernel
[23:59] <urthmover> core 2 duo
[23:59] <unop> xs142, that's all? i dont think you ran the command before that ..
[23:59] <billy> cope57: yea
[23:59] <keit1> ChaosTheory: does it not say flash anywhere in that window?
[23:59] <urthmover> jordan_U core 2 duo
[23:59] <billy> cope57: amd64