[04:23] <tristanmike> LoveAndSex: don't pay attention to neodreams, he's being a tool
[04:23] <bcl> NoUse, Its at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d15601
[04:24] <LoveAndSex> i know Trinisan
[04:24] <Flamekebab> good bit of software for a webcam? Like, to upload to a webserver every X number of seconds?
[04:24] <LoveAndSex> i know Trinisan
[04:24] <LoveAndSex> i know tristanmike
[04:24] <krazykit> Some_Person: i'd recommend asking someone that's installed the nvidia drivers :-P.  i've not done it in ubuntu
[04:24] <Flashq009> doe anyone know why the ubuntu 6.06 LTS server will not load from cdrom, instead I just get a black screen and mess up image on screen?
[04:24] <tristanmike> LoveAndSex: lol, just making sure :)
[04:24] <Frogzoo> Hobbsee: waves his big stick
[04:24] <Some_Person> so, where are the kernel source files in breezy?
[04:24] <Dyegov> It still doesn't work, says that the file doesn't exist
[04:25] <Hobbsee> Frogzoo: exactly.  easier to do that than to fix someone's system, when they've run that command
[04:25] <NoUse> !tell bcl about repos
[04:25] <Frogzoo> Hobbsee: oh I agree, completely
[04:25] <meuserj> anyone know what dapper-proposed is?
[04:25] <NoUse> bcl I'd just replace your sources.list with the one ubotu just sent you, make sure you use the breezy one
[04:25] <Hobbsee> Frogzoo: i note he hasnt come back yet though :P
[04:25] <Hobbsee> Frogzoo: oh, it's a her, btw
[04:26] <em123> can someone help me why am I getting 404 errors in aptitude/synaptic when trying to update? (running dapper, my sources.list is OK, and my net is working too. I can reach the sites w/ Firefox.)
[04:26] <Angel_Dex> Frogzoo why cant i downgreade somthing simnple as Xscreen saver? i really like 4.21
[04:26] <Frogzoo> Angel_Dex: because it will depend on different libraries, don't go there
[04:26] <krazykit> Angel_Dex: why would you want to?  what's wrong with 4.23?
[04:26] <udo> how can i know a use nvidia drivers in my system? where i can found the drivers of hardware?
[04:26] <Angel_Dex> krazykit i dont like the new one Dapper comes with it doesnt have the blaster screen saver nor as many options to what i can find
[04:27] <Frogzoo> Angel_Dex: however you can always get the source & compile against the new libraries, which might work
[04:27] <amortvigil> hey help im trying to install a metacity theme but i get stuck already in the beginning here: The first step that you will need to do is to create a directory in either of the following places:   $PREFIX/share/themes/[theme_name] /metacity-1/
[04:27] <isabelle> oi
[04:27] <DarkRavenMixage> someone knows a good ubuntu alternative for station ripper (windows).  The task of that program is to register stream from internet radios and save the output into different files named as the name of the song registered.
[04:27] <Frogzoo> !tell Angel_Dex about rss-glx
[04:27] <isabelle> tudo bem?
[04:27] <Dyegov> I'm trying to install xampp 1.5.3 in my ubuntu, and the guide says that I gotta log in in a  terminal as ROOT. I've already done it, bur then it says I gotta type this: "tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" I've tried using "sudo tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" as somebody toldme, but still says that the file doesn't exist
[04:27] <TiZZ> I've got a prob with my ATAPI zip drive, can anyone help???
[04:27] <amortvigil> i get bashes about directorys which aint exist
[04:27] <krazykit> Angel_Dex: that's because it uses gnome-screensaver, and they broke up some of the packages.  you can remove gnome-screensaver, add xscreensaver, and install the other screensaver packages.
[04:27] <bcl> NoUse, thanks. I see what's wrong with mine. It doesn't have multiverse on the breezy line, just on breezy-backports.
[04:27] <Frogzoo> Angel_Dex: install rss-glx - these are great screensavers
[04:27] <meuserj> DarkRavenMixage, streamripper
[04:27] <Flamekebab> good bit of software for a webcam? Like, to upload to a webserver every X number of seconds?
[04:28] <udo> how can i know a use nvidia drivers in my system? where i can found the drivers of hardware?
[04:28] <myworld122> I've screwed my MBR by installing Windows AFTER installing ubuntu...can anybody help me to reinstall Grub?
[04:28] <Angel_Dex> krazykit So what i was looking at under dapper isnt Xscreensacver its a Gnome front for it?
[04:28] <Frogzoo> !tell myworld122 about recoveringgrub
[04:28] <amortvigil> like : root@amortvigil:~# $PREFIX/share/themes/
[04:28] <amortvigil> -bash: /share/themes/: No such file or directory
[04:28] <DarkRavenMixage> meuserj is for linux?
[04:28] <Dyegov> I'm trying to install xampp 1.5.3 in my ubuntu, and the guide says that I gotta log in in a  terminal as ROOT. I've already done it, bur then it says I gotta type this: "tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" I've tried using "sudo tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" as somebody toldme, but still says that the file doesn't exist
[04:28] <krazykit> Angel_Dex: yes, but you don't need to use gnome-screensaver.  you can remove it and install xscreensaver
[04:28] <DarkRavenMixage> oh yes
[04:28] <DarkRavenMixage> i got it in repositories
[04:28] <CompuCh|p> I use samba to share my users home directories, but actually I don't want them to go to ~ but to ~/documents instead. Is that possible?
[04:28] <Some_Person> aah, got it, needed kernel-sources
[04:29] <DarkRavenMixage> meuserj how to get it work?
[04:29] <Dyegov> can somebody help me? I'm trying to install xampp 1.5.3 in my ubuntu, and the guide says that I gotta log in in a  terminal as ROOT. I've already done it, bur then it says I gotta type this: "tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" I've tried using "sudo tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" as somebody toldme, but still says that the file doesn't exist
[04:29] <udo> how can i know a use nvidia drivers in my system? where i can found the drivers of hardware? does anyone knows
[04:29] <Flashq009> why is the ubuntu server 6.06 LTS cd booting after I select  the first option ( Install to Harddisk) but nothing appears on, instead hangs?
[04:29] <meuserj> DarkRavenMixage, not sure.. haven't used it too much
[04:29] <DarkRavenMixage> meuserj what is the command to let it run?
[04:29] <em123> :o
[04:30] <myworld122> thanks guys!
[04:30] <Angel_Dex> krazykit Hum now to try and Fix my damn Xorg
[04:30] <meuserj> DarkRavenMixage, streamripper I believe...
[04:30] <Dyegov> Can somebody help me? I'm trying to install xampp 1.5.3 in my ubuntu, and the guide says that I gotta log in in a  terminal as ROOT. I've already done it, bur then it says I gotta type this: "tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" I've tried using "sudo tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" as somebody toldme, but still says that the file doesn't exist
[04:30] <DarkRavenMixage> it doesn't work :/
[04:30] <NoUse> !tell udo about nvidia
[04:30] <Penguin_> How can I erase some of the boot up os's like some of the older ubuntu version's on the GNU GRUB screen?
[04:30] <DarkRavenMixage> meuserj it doesn't got a graphic interface?
[04:31] <NoUse> Penguin_ use syanptic or aptget to remove the old kernel versions
[04:31] <Dyegov> Can somebody help me? I'm trying to install xampp 1.5.3 in my ubuntu, and the guide says that I gotta log in in a  terminal as ROOT. I've already done it, bur then it says I gotta type this: "tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" I've tried using "sudo tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" as somebody toldme, but still says that the file doesn't exist
[04:31] <CompuCh|p> Got it, instead of [homes]  have to use [%U]  path = /home/%U/documents. Thanks :)
[04:31] <NoUse> Penguin_ run this 'dpkg -l | grep linux-image | grep ii' to see a list of installed kernels
[04:31] <Boglizk> I just updated Firefox from 0.2 to 0.4 using the Update-Manager. The "About Firefox" still shows 0.2 though.
[04:32] <_absolution_> why am I having trouble logging in?
[04:32] <kholerabbi> I have installed Firefox under wine - the setup launched firefox automatically and all workedfine - but when i try run the exe it won't rok -any suggestions?
[04:32] <CompuCh|p> Dyegov please don't ask your question more than about once in 5 minutes
[04:32] <kholerabbi> won't work*
[04:32] <Frogzoo> Penguin_: remove the old kernels .... or .... change the "howmany" option in /boot/grub/menu.lst & run 'sudo update-grub'
[04:32] <fabiomazzarino> ok... let me explain.
[04:32] <_absolution_> it boots up...then I log in and then it logs me out again
[04:32] <Flashq009> can some please help me to load ubuntu server 6.06 LTS.  I booted the cd, after I selected  the first option ( Install to Harddisk) but nothing appears on,  instead it hangs.  Any help would much appreciated.  Thank you.
[04:32] <_absolution_> running Dapper
[04:32] <CompuCh|p> and which file it says doesn't exist? /opt ?
[04:32] <fabiomazzarino> i'd like some help with xgl and ati radeon xpress 200m.
[04:33] <wezzer> hi there
[04:33] <fabiomazzarino> xorg and fglrx was working just fine.
[04:33] <tristanmike> !xgl
[04:33] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:33] <wezzer> why does ubuntu think that 149 GB - 129M = 140 GB?
[04:33] <Bazzi> are there any VMWare enhancements I can install when using ubuntu as guest OS (aside from the official vmware tools)?
[04:33] <maxy_noob> hey guys!
[04:33] <Fee^> anyone else have the issue (this happened to me with Breezy and now Dapper LTS) that Update Manager doesn't install updates?, only notifies?..i have to use apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:33] <Frogzoo> wezzer: the ext2/3/file system reserves 5% to handle file fragmentation
[04:33] <fabiomazzarino> i installed xgl, and now after xgl starts gdm doesn't start, and all I have is a grey screen
[04:33] <wezzer> Frogzoo: okay...
[04:33] <maxy_noob> looking to mount mds or mdf files in ubuntu. any suggestions?
[04:33] <_absolution_> I didn't get open office when I upgraded
[04:33] <krazykit> Angel_Dex: i don't know what's wrong with it.  i recommended letting dpkg do it, by doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:33] <Fee^> !xgl
[04:33] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:34] <CarinArr> hey, does anyone else have problems with the flash plugin for firefox? i've installed it using apt-get, then update-flashplugin and restarted firefox but it still doesn't seem to be recognised
[04:34] <NoUse> wezzer you can use tune2fs to turn it off
[04:34] <krazykit> Angel_Dex: but for now, i have to go, so throw it back at the channel :-P
[04:34] <wezzer> NoUse: ahum, thank you very much
[04:34] <Penguin_> ok thanks. I'm also having trouble get ubuntu to connect wireless networks. I've installed a wlanassistant but it doesn't detect any networks. There are networks.
[04:34] <Angel_Dex> krazykit peace
[04:35] <Frogzoo> wezzer: NoUse you can reduce it maybe, but turning it off's not a good idea
[04:35] <maxy_noob> is this possible?
[04:35] <udo> does anyone have mutella installed in ubuntu?
[04:35] <wezzer> Frogzoo: yeah, I think I'll leave it on
[04:35] <Penguin_> ok thanks. I'm also having trouble get ubuntu to connect wireless networks. I've installed a wlanassistant but it doesn't detect any networks. There are networks.\
[04:35] <wezzer> Frogzoo: since loosing data is irritating
[04:35] <NoUse> Frogzoo wezzer if its just a storage device its not dangerious, but if its your system paritions you should leave it on
[04:36] <Frogzoo> wezzer: the guys who understand the file system best chose that 5% figure for a reason
[04:36] <DarkRavenMixage> meuserj it works great thank you
[04:36] <maxy_noob> right now I'm getting the message: Unable to mount the selected volume. The volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted.
[04:36] <DarkRavenMixage> :)
[04:36] <Dyegov> some help?
[04:36] <wezzer> Frogzoo: yeah, well I just wanted to know where does the free space go... now I figured out :)
[04:36] <wezzer> thank you
[04:36] <Kaj> anyone who can help me get an Orinoco-USB-silver to work in breezy?
[04:36] <Frogzoo> wezzer: yw
[04:37] <meuserj> DarkRavenMixage, np
[04:37] <bcl> Dyegov, ok. I've got a couple of minutes.
[04:37] <Dyegov> thanx bcl
[04:37] <bcl> Dyegov, it looked like you were trying to install a tarball?
[04:37] <maxy_noob> anybody?
[04:37] <Dyegov> what's that? bcl?
[04:38] <fabiomazzarino> !xgl
[04:38] <bcl> Dyegov, when you became root it probably changed directories on you so it couldn't find the file.
[04:38] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:38] <maxy_noob> I created those files in XP using Alcohol 120
[04:38] <Dyegov> I don't know, how can I solve that? bcl
[04:38] <Ron_o> Kaj, I can't help much, but there's a nifty app called USB view which can help locate whether your OS recognizes it or it's more software related.
[04:38] <Subhuman> fabiomazzarino, try joining #ubuntu-xgl for xgl help too
[04:38] <Penguin_> ok thanks. I'm also having trouble get ubuntu to connect wireless networks. I've installed a wlanassistant but it doesn't detect any networks. There are networks.\
[04:38] <kane77> hi, anyone can help me with the xvidcap... I always get a error message about libpng2.0 how can I install it???
[04:39] <fabiomazzarino> Subhuman, I'm already there.
[04:39] <Subhuman> ahh okay :)
[04:39] <fabiomazzarino> Subhuman, no help there yet.
[04:39] <bcl> Dyegov, give it the full pathname to the tarball.
[04:39] <Dyegov> bcl, I'm a newbie, it's my first time with linux, and I don't know what a tarball is
[04:39] <Kaj> Ron_o: Ok, thnx. But the system finds the card, But it dont work =/
[04:39] <gnomefreak> kane77: are you on dapper?
[04:40] <Ron_o> yah, it's more software related.
[04:40] <kane77> gnomefreak, yes...
[04:40] <Ron_o> what do you want to get a printer working?
[04:40] <gnomefreak> kane77: the libpng on dapper is libpng3
[04:40] <bcl> Dyegov, tarball is what we call the .tar.gz file archive. Its an archive of files that is compressed.
[04:40] <gnomefreak> kane77: install that see if it will work
[04:40] <maxy_noob> can someone direct me as to where I can get direction for the question then?
[04:40] <gnomefreak> maxy_noob: what question
[04:40] <Dyegov> bcl, ok, so what did you say I should do? how do I do it?
[04:40] <kane77> gnomefreak, I'm on it...
[04:41] <bcl> Dyegov, someone told you to run tar ... <filename> -C /opt/, right? You should add the full path to the file to the start of it.
[04:41] <maxy_noob> mounting mds and mdf files in ubuntu
[04:41] <maxy_noob> Presently I can't even get ubuntu to read the dvd
[04:41] <bcl> Dyegov, for example if it was stored in /tmp/ you would pass it /tmp/filename.tar.gz
[04:41] <kane77> gnomefreak, i still got this: xvidcap: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:41] <Penguin_> I'm having trouble get ubuntu to connect wireless networks. I've installed the wlassistant but it doesn't detect any networks. There are networks. and if i set it up via the networking in ubuntu the ethernet keeps getting enabled and thewireless card disabled.
[04:41] <Ron_o> Kaj, what do you want to get to work a printer?
[04:41] <PTWalrus> maxy: mds and mdf are propriatary filesystems
[04:41] <NoUse> !tell Penguin_ about wireless
[04:41] <gnomefreak> kane77: ok its gonna be the -dev file give me a sec ok
[04:42] <NoUse> Penguin_ check your card against the list of supported ones, you might need to use ndiswrapper
[04:42] <Dyegov> I'm using the name file, look "tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt", but it's in the desktop, what should  I type bcl?
[04:42] <kane77> gnomefreak, ok second passed ;)
[04:42] <gnomefreak> maxy_noob: i can honestly say never heard of those files but read your pm from ubotu for dvd playback
[04:42] <maxy_noob> so there's no way to open them in ubuntu?
[04:42] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell maxy_noob -about restricted
[04:43] <gnomefreak> kane77: libpng3-dev
[04:43] <Dyegov> I'm using the name file, look "tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt", but it's in the desktop, what should  I type? bcl
[04:43] <gnomefreak> maxy_noob: i dont know never used them or seen that
[04:43] <bcl> Dyegov, if its on your desktop then it will be in the ~/Desktop/ directory.
[04:43] <maxy_noob> I created the files with Alcohol 120%
[04:44] <Ilokaasu> gnomefreak: mdf and mds are image files, maby u should help him to use images @ linux
[04:44] <maxy_noob> yay!
[04:44] <maxy_noob> I'm all ears
[04:44] <Penguin_> ok it is a dell Trumobile 1350
[04:44] <Dyegov> bcl, how do I put that symbol?
[04:44] <bcl> Dyegov, The easiest thing to do is probably to copy it to /tmp first. As a normal user type:
[04:44] <Frogzoo> maxy_noob: not sure if mdf is a proprietary alcohol 120 format or not - but you could try cdemu
[04:44] <gnomefreak> maxy_noob: image as in picture or slideshow or what?
[04:44] <Penguin_> it is no all across
[04:44] <Dyegov> ok' I'll try
[04:44] <bcl> Dyegov, cp ~/Desktop/xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz /tmp
[04:44] <maxy_noob> sorry: dvd image
[04:45] <bcl> Dyegov, Its a tilde, above the singe quote on the top left of my keyboard. YKMV
[04:45] <maxy_noob> it's an image of UT2K4
[04:45] <Frogzoo> maxy_noob: only cdemu is only source, you'll need to compile - probly best check cdemu supports mdf b4 going to the trouble
[04:45] <gnomefreak> maxy_noob: read the link ubotu sent you mplayer might read it totem-xine might
[04:45] <CaBlGuY> maxy_noob:  U tryin to burn a DVD omage?
[04:45] <CaBlGuY> *image
[04:45] <Penguin_> NoUse: it is a dell Truemobile 1350. it is has three no's
[04:46] <gnomefreak> CaBlGuY: no trying to read it
[04:46] <maxy_noob> cab: the image is burned. I'm trying to read it in Ubuntu
[04:46] <maxy_noob> I'd like to mount the image
[04:46] <Flashq009> can anyone please help me with server edition, I keep getting grey screens wether I choose Install to hdd, text mode,.
[04:46] <CaBlGuY> maxy_noob:  Ahhh  I see now...
[04:46] <CaBlGuY> good luck with that.. ;)
[04:46] <bcl> Then run: sudo tar xvfz /tmp/xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt
[04:46] <maxy_noob> LOL
[04:46] <bcl> Dyegov, Then run: sudo tar xvfz /tmp/xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt
[04:46] <Dyegov> bcl, I've moved it, but still says that the file doesn't exist
[04:46] <Dyegov> wait
[04:46] <gnomefreak> maxy_noob: libdvdcss and libdvdread maybe help a bit thats why i told you to read that wiki it might even be in the w32codecs
[04:47] <NoUse> Penguin_ follow the ndiswrapper instructions
[04:47] <Penguin_> ok.
[04:47] <Ron_o> Flashq009, a few things: md5sum iso and your CD burn...
[04:47] <_absolution_> how do you enable dvd playback??
[04:47] <Dyegov> Finally!!! it worked!!!!!!! thanx bcl
[04:47] <NoUse> !tell _absolution_ about dvd
[04:47] <maxy_noob> gnomefreak: thanks. I have w32codecs installed. However, it won't even read the dvd
[04:48] <Dyegov> then what should I trype to start it? bcl
[04:48] <Flamekebab> dvdcss..
[04:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell _absolution_ about restricted
[04:48] <schultzconsult> someone godt the Xgl desktop working?
[04:48] <Ron_o> if it's not that then I don't know. On rare ocassions it's hardware related.
[04:48] <NoUse> !xgl
[04:48] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:48] <gnomefreak> !restricted
[04:48] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[04:48] <gnomefreak> _absolution_: ^^^
[04:48] <Ron_o> !ubotu
[04:48] <bobstro> what is "official" ubuntu way of mutli-user setups. i want a central server handling 3-4 local PCs, each user to have roaming desktop. i'm using nfs/nis but it seems that's not very popular.
[04:48] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[04:48] <bcl> Dyegov, heck if I know. Find the manpage for it and read it. I don't even know what xampp is :)
[04:48] <maxy_noob> sorry, can you tell me where to find the wiki?
[04:48] <Moein> I have a Sony Vaio SZ17NP Laptop. It has a 5 Gb Recovery Partition. I made the Recovery DVDs, now I want to ask from have a machine like this, the DVDs are enough to recover the system if I want to remove this partition, or I must to have this partition ?
[04:49] <Dyegov> Ok, thanx a lot bcl ;)
[04:49] <Dyegov> bye bye
[04:49] <bcl> Dyegov, good luck!
[04:49] <SAM_theman> brb
[04:49] <gnomefreak> maxy_noob: the restricted formats wikit hat ubotu just posted a few lines up
[04:49] <CompuCh|p> Hmm, I wanted to add a user to a group. I tried usermod -G -a, usermod -a and usermod -Ga before i finally found out it should be usermod -a -G. Anyone else thinks the manual is not clear about this?
[04:49] <Penguin_> is 6.04 the latest version?
[04:49] <Penguin_> for dapper?
[04:49] <gnomefreak> Penguin_: ~
[04:50] <gnomefreak> 6.06
[04:50] <neodreams> 6.06 actually
[04:50] <neodreams> yeah
[04:50] <danfg> what do you guys use against spam?
[04:50] <Moein> Penguin_, yes, the last stable version !
[04:50] <d14> 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake)
[04:50] <gnomefreak> danfg: spam where?
[04:50] <Moein> danfg, maybe spamassasin :P
[04:50] <danfg> gnomefreak: email
[04:50] <Penguin_> ok then what do it is 6.04
[04:50] <ruxpin> how can I get the list of system daemons (services) from the command line?
[04:50] <Winkie> SA is way too ott, i have a dspam set up at home that needs training
[04:50] <Penguin_> *do I dp
[04:50] <Ninjadude> hey folks
[04:50] <Penguin_> *do
[04:50] <gnomefreak> danfg: spamassine that should run on most email clients
[04:51] <gnomefreak> spamassasin*
[04:51] <kane77> gnomefreak, no not even this solved it... I still got the same... I asked the same questions on ubuntuforums and somebody wrote a script for multimedia which includes a xvidcap, but it has a apt-get install libpng2 which returns only error message that the package was removed or is obstolete.. (i think the latter) but not even libpng3 solves it...
[04:51] <aLPHa_LeaK>  brb
[04:51] <bobstro> the roaming profiles wiki stuff seems a tad incomplete
[04:51] <Ninjadude> so, im probably not the first to ask this.....but.... has anybody else experienced printer issues when upgrading from breezy to dapper?
[04:51] <hydra__> if i download a kernel from kernel.org, i simply need to configure it, make bzImage and make modules (and _install)?  I'm on windows because windows can connect to wireless but ubuntu can't
[04:52] <danfg> bah, i was rooting for japan
[04:52] <gnomefreak> kane77: it might need libpng2 but here are 2 more libs i would try to make sure libpng12-0 libpng12-dev
[04:52] <mheath> hydra__, you also need to install the kernel image and configure the bootloader.
[04:52] <Ninjadude> yea dapper has crap support on wireless, especially if you've got a broadcom chipset
[04:52] <Angel_Dex> how do i restart x?
[04:52] <gnomefreak> IronMask|GOAUSSY: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[04:52] <bcl> danfg, I use a blackholes.us RBL list, header checks, spamassassin and pyzor. Thunderbird with baeysian filtering on the client side. And it still doesn't stop it all.
[04:52] <bobstro> danfg:  you can use spamassassin or some of the mail clients have basic capabilities. spamassassin will need to be set up to handle mail as it comes in.
[04:52] <gnomefreak> Angel_Dex: ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:52] <Ninjadude> its funny too, it was working the very first time i tried it (after disabling bcm4xx)
[04:52] <Penguin_> the card came built into my computer so I don't think I have any drivers
[04:53] <maxy_noob> There doesn't appear to be info on my problem on the Restricted Formats site.
[04:53] <Ninjadude> so does anybody know about this printing problem
[04:53] <mheath> hydra__, why are you compiling a new kernel, though?
[04:53] <bobstro> Ninjadude:  well... i can no longer print, so...
[04:53] <kane77> gnomefreak, it says that both are already installed...
[04:53] <NoUse> Penguin_ you can get them from deell
[04:53] <gnomefreak> maxy_noob: look at the gstreamer and xine and dvd sections
[04:53] <Ninjadude> bobstro: yea that would be a problem lol
[04:53] <Penguin_> ok I'll try that
[04:53] <danfg> bobstro: what i'd really like is to stop spam before downloading it to my mail client, have you ever seen mailwasher? or maybe spamx
[04:53] <Ninjadude> i cant even install the printer.......the drivers dont exist
[04:54] <maxy_noob> Ya, I have xine and mplayer installed.
[04:54] <Ninjadude> in the cups interface, in the web interface, anywhere
[04:54] <maxy_noob> still nothing
[04:54] <gnomefreak> kane77: im not sure than thats a tough one i know libpng2 is not in dapper (maybe the package you are trying for was made for breezy not dapper
[04:54] <Ninjadude> the dropdown menu is completely empty
[04:54] <mheath> maxy_noob, this is a data DVD?
[04:54] <Ninjadude> and its bad cuz i need my printer :(
[04:54] <maxy_noob> yes.
[04:54] <bobstro> danfg:  ideally, that would happen on the server that receives your mail so you *never* see it.
[04:54] <gnomefreak> data or image :(
[04:54] <maxy_noob> created with Alcohol 120 on XP
[04:54] <nameless14> I just set my mp3 player up so it is no longer one partition. There is room for linux to go on it. The mp3 player connects via usb2 and is a 20gb harddrive. (5.6 free for linux) Can someone tell me if xubuntu would be better for this device then say damn small linux? I just need to know what would be better to suit my needs but mostly the hardware. Thanx
[04:54] <bobstro> danfg:  spamassassin is excellent, but not exactly intuitive to set up.
[04:54] <danfg> bcl: when you say rbl and header checks, how are these checks performed (which program?)
[04:54] <maxy_noob> I guess it's image, sorry.
[04:54] <kane77> gnomefreak, ok I'll try to google for some dapper version...
[04:54] <mheath> maxy_noob, sorry, these people are morons. They were teaching you how to setup a movie player program to play DVD movies.
[04:55] <maxy_noob> mds and mdf formats
[04:55] <Frogzoo> maxy_noob: doesn't seem as though cdemu supports mdf - your best bet is to use a windows app - alcohol 120/ultra iso under WINE
[04:55] <gnomefreak> kane77: what package is it?
[04:55] <_mason> Could someone please look over my xorg.conf file, ive just reformatted and from a non-beta cd of dapper and i cannot get nvidia drivers working, here is the file: http://pastebin.com/704397 and be assured i have all the correct packages installed ( checked 3 times )
[04:55] <Ninjadude> firstly does anybody know what directory the printer drivers are sposed to be in?
[04:55] <_mason> 'just reformatted from a non-beta
[04:55] <Frogzoo> Ninjadude: locate ppd
[04:55] <maxy_noob> frogzoo: ok. never done that before though.
[04:55] <kane77> gnomefreak, i'm not sure... how do I find out?
[04:55] <maxy_noob> there's always a first time.
[04:55] <gnomefreak> _mason: make sure you have all updates done
[04:55] <gnomefreak> kane77: what are you trying to install?
[04:55] <_mason> i am 100% up to date
[04:56] <danfg> bobstro: actually, the software runs on your client, it downloads email headers from your account, you can select which ones will be deleted/blacklisted/whitelisted, then it loads up your mail client
[04:56] <Ninjadude> ok, so they're mostly in user/share
[04:56] <Ninjadude> so why the hell cant cups find any O_O
[04:56] <maxy_noob> should I install wine from add/remove?
[04:56] <gnomefreak> _mason: is nvidia=glx installed?
[04:56] <gnomefreak> nvidia-glx even
[04:56] <danfg> bobstro: by "on your client" i meant on your computer
[04:56] <Frogzoo> !tell maxy_noob about wine
[04:56] <_mason> gnomefreak: Only thing i can think of is that because i installed nvidia-glx before i did the updates ?
[04:56] <bobstro> danfg:  yes, but it's already wasted resources on your server then. you're downloading mail via pop?
[04:56] <Ninjadude> _mason: yea make sure you have the packages installed
[04:56] <RizCk>  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-199899523054020719&q=linux
[04:56] <_mason> could that be the problem?
[04:56] <gnomefreak> _mason: it should have updateed it
[04:56] <RizCk> how to i make my ubuntu like that video? i was told ubuntu is able
[04:56] <Ninjadude> _mason: quite probably.....cant just change it to "nvidia" unless u have the drivers
[04:57] <gnomefreak> _mason: i dont understand what you mean by not working
[04:57] <ruxpin> how can I get the list of system daemons (services) from the command line?
[04:57] <maxy_noob> I know it's a windows emulator for linux but never used it before.
[04:57] <danfg> bobstro: wasted resources? i'm deleting it, what's being wasted? the email has to be received anyway. i'm dloading via pop
[04:57] <neodreams> RizCk go to ubuntu-testing
[04:57] <mheath> maxy_noob, take a look at kiso.sourceforge.net. You'll have to install the base of KDE (unless your running kubuntu), but it lets you convert from mdf to iso.
[04:57] <NoWhereToTurn> Doing a custom installation of Breezy. It is asking which  Kernal to install
[04:57] <gnomefreak> 2.6.12
[04:57] <mheath> maxy_noob, and you can easily copy an iso to a disk.
[04:57] <gnomefreak> NoWhereToTurn: ^^
[04:57] <RizCk> /join p
 RizCk go to u
[04:58] <NoWhereToTurn> ok thanks
[04:58] <bobstro> danfg:  ideally, the server receiving the spam would reject it before it got into the server. wasted bandwidth, disk space (on the server). that way, the spammers would see a dead addy instead of a good one.
[04:58] <bobstro> danfg:  where are you pulling the mail down from?
[04:58] <bobstro> danfg:  and what mail client?
[04:58] <maxy_noob> yikes
[04:58] <CompuCh|p> Question...
[04:58] <maxy_noob> I'm running gnome.
[04:58] <Frogzoo> bobstro: how you tell something's spam before reading it - I'd like to know
[04:58] <CompuCh|p> How can I make windows prompt my samba username/password again without rebooting Windows?
[04:59] <Winkie> pray
[04:59] <Winkie> change the servers IP?
[04:59] <babo> can i change a users password as root ?
[04:59] <CompuCh|p> Because after entering it for the first time, it won't ask again
[04:59] <Winkie> babo: passwd username
[04:59] <CompuCh|p> babo you can
[04:59] <Frogzoo> babo: sudo passwd LUSER
[04:59] <CompuCh|p> passwd username
[04:59] <CompuCh|p> lol :)
[04:59] <bobstro> Frogzoo:  that's what the spam filters and techniques are for! :)
[04:59] <Angel_Dex> Ok i installed everything
[04:59] <Angel_Dex> and stuff
[04:59] <babo> ok thanks ...
[04:59] <Angel_Dex> everythignis blury
[04:59] <danfg> bobstro: my mail client is tb, i'm pulling it from my server via pop, it runs a website, etc. i'd really like to delete some mail before actually downloading everything.
[04:59] <Angel_Dex> and i can only go up to 1024x768
[05:00] <_mason> Well, followed the binary install howto on wiki.ubuntu, like i have 4-5 other times to install nvidia drivers on dapper, this time however i installed from a new (out of beta-disk) of dapper and cannot get my nvidia drivers working, xorg.conf is correct, i have double checked the packages i needed to have installed, nothing. The only thing im questioning is that i installed and did the wiki tutorial before i ran the update manager ? if i c
[05:00] <_mason> ant find a solution, i will reformat and try it in the correct order? anyone have any ideas
[05:00] <bobstro> danfg:  does your hosting outfit provide spamassasin? it's pretty common, even on cheap ones.
[05:00] <Ninjadude> ok......got printing itself to work
[05:00] <Ninjadude> now lets see if i can get the scanner to work
[05:00] <_absolution_> can't install libdvdcss2
[05:00] <Frogzoo> Angel_Dex: you might need to add a horizsync/vertrefresh spec that matches your monitor
[05:00] <Frogzoo> !tell Angel_Dex about fixres
[05:00] <danfg> Angel_Dex: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:00] <Frogzoo> !tell _absolution_ about restricted
[05:00] <Frogzoo> _absolution_: you need to add a repo that's got it
[05:01] <kholerabbi> Has dapper a brown theme?
[05:01] <_absolution_> ok thanks
[05:01] <bobstro> danfg:  mailfilter looks promising, though i haven't used it
[05:01] <kholerabbi> ..the same general spartan look?
[05:01] <_mason> me?
[05:02] <Ninjadude> hah, sweet, just gotta manually locate the hpijs driver and that takes care of everything
[05:02] <Frogzoo> !tell kholerabbi about themes
[05:02] <mheath> maxy_noob, doesn't matter. If you feel comfortable using the command line, theres also mdf2iso.berlios.de
[05:02] <slade1> you spik polish??
[05:02] <Afief> I am trying to compile a school project of mine, but it keeps saying that cout isn't declated even though i include iostream
[05:02] <danfg> bobstro: it might, it's a dedicated server, i'll check. anyway, some spam gets through, why do you guys talk about spamassassin like it gets all 100% of the spam? some manual filtering is needed in the end anyway, some will get through. i'm just asking for an app that lets you manually delete the remaining spam before dload
[05:02] <top222> How am I expected to run wpa_supplicant?
[05:02] <Frogzoo> Afief: -> ##c
[05:02] <kholerabbi> Thanks - I mean the default theme?
[05:02] <bobstro> danfg:  you could also use fetchmail and run it through all sorts of filters.
[05:03] <kholerabbi> Is the dapper startup faster btw?
[05:03] <danfg> mheath: mailfilter? i'll check, brb
[05:03] <Frogzoo> kholerabbi: yes
[05:03] <top222> Will the machine run it for me, now that all the modules are there in the non-free module package?
[05:03] <Penguin_> I'm having trouble finding drivers. I don't really knoow very much about linux so I'd rather not have something that is  complex to setup
[05:03] <danfg> anyone here ever used mailwasher or spamx?
[05:03] <top222> If I am expected to run wpa_gui, it does not work
[05:03] <GUARDiAN|nb> anyone here who has internet explorer installed using wine?
[05:04] <Penguin_> or whatever I need
[05:04] <_mason> One time i did get it working however was when i stopped /etc/init.d/gdm and then typed startx, i got an nvidia logo.. but then the old x server started and -> errors -> close
[05:04] <top222> It expects the wpa_supplicant to be running already
[05:04] <bobstro> danfg:  fire up synaptic and search on 'spam'. lots of pop3 proxies and such should help.
[05:04] <kane77> gnomefreak, sorry had to run out... i'm trying to install xvidcap...
[05:04] <top222> Who or what is supposed to run the wpa_supplicant and where?
[05:04] <gnomefreak> ok hold on a sec kane i just sat back down too
[05:04] <top222> Where do I go to add it or to configure it?
[05:04] <kholerabbi> Would dapper and the new gnome be noticably faster on a i386 512mb ram ata hdds etc.? oldish
[05:05] <bobstro> danfg:  for me, spamassassin catches about 90% of spam with basic rules. i use bayes filtering for the rest (bogofilter) and get 99% + of it.
[05:05] <kholerabbi> 32mb graphics
[05:05] <rixxon> are there no forbidden characters for filenames on ubuntu's filesystem? :S
[05:05] <bobstro> danfg:  literally that percentage. i run reports for stats.
[05:05] <gnomefreak> kane77: is that full name?
[05:05] <Frogzoo> kholerabbi: I think so, but it will be pretty slow regardless
[05:05] <mjr> rixxon, just /
[05:05] <kane77> gnomefreak, yes...
[05:05] <danfg> bobstro: when spam gets through what do you do?
[05:05] <gnomefreak> ok one min
[05:05] <rixxon> mjr: oh, i can't use / anyway :P
[05:05] <gordon1986> is there a command line program which will pause shell script execution and resume when any key is pressed?
[05:05] <bobstro> danfg:  spamassassin can do bayes too, but i don't use theirs.
[05:05] <RizCk> to install xgl i just do apt-get install xgl?
[05:05] <kholerabbi> Hey thats true - IS there any forbidden characters? :)
[05:05] <Frogzoo> gordon1986: -> google expect
[05:05] <dp_wiz> Hellow, orld!
[05:06] <kholerabbi> other then "/"
[05:06] <mjr> kholerabbi, nope
[05:06] <_mason> Well, unless anyone has an idea? i will reformat and get back to you....
[05:06] <rixxon> so what, linebreaks are allowed?
[05:06] <Frogzoo> gordon1986: actually, not sure that will do it with a CR
[05:06] <mjr> well, ASCII 0 is forbidden, but it's not really a character
[05:06] <bobstro> danfg:  well, there are borderline cases that go into an 'unsure' folder. i sort it there. 5-10 messages per day for my family, with about 400 inbound messages typical.
[05:06] <Hoobly> how can I get Kubuntu to re-recognize my video card.  I upgraded from Breezy to Dapper on friday and since, I have not been able to get kde up
[05:06] <bobstro> danfg:  and most of those are "spam-like" wanted stuff.
[05:06] <mjr> rixxon, linebreaks are allowed.
[05:06] <top222> And this is the best flop of all!  wpa_supplicant expects a configuration file, so I can run it, so I can use wpa_gui to create a configuration file.
[05:06] <mjr> one would tend to discourage using linebreaks in filenames, but they can be used
[05:06] <rixxon> mjr: i just want a character for metavariables in a program, to describe a format, uhm
[05:06] <rixxon> mjr: like, &foo is replaced by something
[05:06] <ydnar> !wifi
[05:06] <ubotu> somebody said wifi was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:07] <rixxon> mjr: i'll just make && a literal & ;)
[05:07] <top222> Thankkksss
[05:07] <gnomefreak> kane77: here add this repo to your /etc/apt/sources.list and see if its in there it should be
[05:07] <gnomefreak> kane77: # Cipherfunk multimedia packages (packages, GPG key: 33BAC1B3)
[05:07] <gnomefreak> deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ dapper main
[05:07] <leo_> how can I specify my XkbLayout when customizing a liveCD , i tried kbd-chooser/method but it didn't work?
[05:07] <bobstro> danfg:  but... this is all done on my server. wouldn't apply so well for your pop3 situation.
[05:08] <Penguin_> OK hm I'm looking at the the dell drivers. it comes in an exe
[05:09] <danfg> bobstro: i'm pretty sure some filtering is done at the server. some get through though. i'm basically looking for mailwasher for linux, but free :). i found postarmor, too bad it's such a crappy piece of software
[05:09] <lancer285> Hey guys, I'm having a huge problem w/ the locales stuff. I've tried running sudo dpkg-reconfigure --force locales and it doesn't help. I keep getting locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory. anyone hvae ideas?
[05:09] <kane77> gnomefreak, W: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B3, I'v noticed this before how do I fix it?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> kane77: ok let me know if you install xvidcap first
[05:10] <babo> I have installed your old hard drive as a slave in order for you to transfer data. ... this is what the host of my dedicated server sent me.
[05:10] <gnomefreak> kane77: than i will throw the 2 commands at you to fix that
[05:10] <babo> I can't seem to access my slave drive to get data off it though ...
[05:10] <kane77> gnomefreak, it says that it's already installed in highest version....
[05:10] <danfg> bobstro: i'm used to mailwasher in windows, i was just looking for something similar in linux. thanks for the help :)
[05:10] <gnomefreak> ok thats good ;)
[05:11] <gnomefreak> that means you have it already
[05:11] <tukei> can some send hacking tutorials
[05:11] <amortvigil> how do i run this right in the terminal? : $PREFIX/share/themes/[theme_name] /metacity-1/
[05:11] <Frogzoo> danfg: apt-cache search spam
[05:11] <gnomefreak> kane77: ok now lets fix the gpg errors i will say your name and give you the command just type the command as i type it ok
[05:11] <ToHellWithGA> could somebody help me with totem?  i'm getting sound output but no video.  if i try mplayer i get video output and broken sound
[05:11] <danfg> Frogzoo: i did that, thanks :)
[05:12] <gnomefreak> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY
[05:12] <Frogzoo> tukei: -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:12] <gnomefreak> shoot
[05:12] <ToHellWithGA> the file is .avi with divx and mp3 i think
[05:12] <Frogzoo> gnomefreak: they key's can be found from ubotu's !easysource link
[05:12] <huest1> hy, please could anyone help me with my problem?
[05:12] <gnomefreak> kane77: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 33BAC1B3
[05:12] <jenda> huest1: you might have to ask first :)
[05:12] <amortvigil> ToHellWithGA: play them both at exactly the same time:P
[05:12] <gnomefreak> Frogzoo: ty i already have the keys though
[05:13] <ToHellWithGA> amortvigil: that's the worst idea ever.  i'll try that.
[05:13] <gnomefreak> Frogzoo: i was hoping to paste it and fix it
[05:13] <amortvigil> ToHellWithGA: :P
[05:13] <gnomefreak> kane77: let me know when that is done
[05:13] <lancer285> anyone have ideas on this locales en_US crap? I can't run some programs
[05:13] <NoUse> Penguin_ you can use wine to extract it most likely
[05:13] <Penguin_> ok
[05:13] <Frogzoo> gnomefreak: well go to the easysource site& generate an appropriate sources list - the keys are commented
[05:14] <amortvigil> Frogzoo:  how do i run this right in the terminal? : $PREFIX/share/themes/[Dapper-Duck] /metacity-1/
[05:14] <ToHellWithGA> i was able to pick a different sound output in mplayer to get it to decode the audio instead of just passing the mp3 to my sound card as PCM
[05:14] <eXistenZ> Can anyone tell me what's wrong with this: 1 * * * * pisg -co /home/existenz/pisg/pisg.cfg --silent . I'm trying to execute the following command: pisg -co /home/existenz/pisg/pisgcfg --silent every minute.
[05:14] <ToHellWithGA> amortvigil: :p
[05:14] <kane77> gnomefreak, done...
[05:14] <gnomefreak> kane77: gpg --export --armor 33BAC1B3 | sudo apt-key add -
[05:14] <gnomefreak> kane77: when its done it should say OK
[05:14] <huest1> jenda, thanks.... so I've an acer travelmate 2420, i'm removing the hard disk with windows xp. then. i've connect an usb hard disk where I installed my ubuntu. When i reboot pc, at the first time i read only GRUB, and the os doesn't start. could you help me? thank's
[05:15] <gnomefreak> kane77: you may get this key is untrusted or something like that dont worry as long as it says OK at the end
[05:15] <amortvigil> ToHellWithGA: do you know how i run this in the terminal? : $PREFIX/share/themes/[Dapper-Duck] /metacity-1/
[05:15] <kane77> gnomefreak, done...
[05:15] <gnomefreak> kane77: sudo apt-get update
[05:15] <gnomefreak> kane77: no more erros should pop up
[05:15] <Frogzoo> eXistenZ: give it the full path to pisg
[05:15] <gnomefreak> errors even
[05:15] <bobstro> danfg:  i'd be surprised if there's not something similar for t-bird
[05:16] <kane77> gnomefreak, ok... no more errors... thanx... I'll have to put this in my reference doc...
[05:16] <jenda> huest1: I'm not sure... did you install the OS on that PC? If you did, did you make sure it boots from the device with GRUB installed?
[05:16] <Angel_Dex> Hey! everything works ^_^
[05:16] <ToHellWithGA> amortvigil: nope
[05:16] <Jocker> anyone here have one C54RU device running in Ubuntu ?
[05:16] <lancer285> I'm just trying to get the english locales to work, any ideas ?? puhLEEZE. its pissing me off
[05:16] <eXistenZ> Frogzoo, it is in /usr/bin
[05:16] <adamant1988> is anyone here using the R300 drivers for ATI as opposed to fglrx
[05:17] <Frogzoo> eXistenZ: not sure cron commands get PATH set...
[05:17] <Angel_Dex> Frogzoo, everythings peachy with my vidcard ^_^
[05:17] <bobstro> danfg:  is your hosting outfit maybe flagging the spam with a header you could use for filtering?
[05:17] <Frogzoo> Angel_Dex: nice!
[05:17] <danfg> bobstro: good idea. i've been downloading many extensions but haven't looked specifically for that.
[05:17] <bobstro> danfg:  also, did you look at http://opensourcearticles.com/introduction_to_thunderbird_5
[05:18] <Jocker> anyone ? lol
[05:18] <bobstro> danfg:  it'll do it after downloading, which i realize isn't exactly what you want.
[05:18] <Frogzoo> eXistenZ: also try putting at the end '> /dev/null 2>&1'   cron doesn't like nondirected output
[05:18] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[05:19] <renssie> I have a question
[05:19] <danfg> bobstro: you're looking for an automatic solution, which is fine. i'm looking for that final "combing" which should be done manually, with help from some last-minute filters and a gui. i don't like the whole download-then-erase idea, but maybe i should get used to it, dunno
[05:19] <bobstro> so anybody have suggestions for "best practices" for LAN setup with roaming user profile functionality?
[05:19] <SAM_theman> Guys tell me if you like my blog ??(putfile.com/sammy2005)
[05:19] <SAM_theman> www.putfile.com/sammy2005
[05:19] <SAM_theman> And go to images
[05:19] <renssie> how can I instal guts
[05:19] <Frogzoo> bobstro: NIS  & /home mounted over NFS
[05:19] <RizCk> is XGL STABLE in ubuntu?
[05:20] <bobstro> danfg:  the pop3 proxies that check headers etc. are probably closest. good luck with it. i fight that battle a lot, though not as much now that my kids are older.
[05:20] <Frogzoo> RizCk: nope - alpha
[05:20] <bobstro> Frogzoo:  ok, that's what i'm using now. it just doesn't seem well supported.
[05:20] <danfg> bobstro: thanks a lot, i appreciate it
[05:20] <Moein> !XGL
[05:20] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:20] <huest1> jenda, yes, becaouse if I remove my usb hd, the pc said: no system disk.
[05:21] <jenda> huest1: I'm sorry :( I can't help - I'm sure someone will.
[05:22] <bobstro> i don't think i could realistically suggest replacing windows with nis/nfs in a corporate environment.
[05:22] <huest1> jenda, thank's.
[05:22] <top222> "Information about newly installed applications available.  Click on the notification icon for more information."
[05:22] <Alfred_> Hi guys! Ehh, I just lost my menu bar in amarok. Does anybody know how to retrieve it That is, make it visible again, hehe :)
[05:22] <top222> Now, where is the "notification icon?"
[05:22] <Pecisk> top222: that orange symbol, do you see that? :)
[05:23] <rapha> Ya. NFS is a piece 'o crap.
[05:23] <Alfred_> ohh, wait, just got it ctrl + M
[05:23] <top222> Pecisk: I see no orange symbols
[05:23] <Linuxn00b> How do i get my WLAN USB adapter running?
[05:23] <adamant1988> Can anyone tell me if installed the R300 ATI driver is safe in Ubuntu 6.06 or should I just ocntinue with the fglrx?
[05:23] <NoUse> !tell Linuxn00b about wireless
[05:23] <top222> Pecisk: The balloon already disappeared.  There was the lightbulb, and I tried clicking it, but nothing happened.
[05:23] <Jocker> if anyone here use one C54RU device, please query me :D
[05:24] <udo> how can i know my current kernel version?
[05:24] <Angel_Dex> Frogzoo, I think i might live with Dapper for being up to date ill just have to get use to its BS wanna be windows look but i updated from 5.10 should i do a fresh install to make it well cleaner?
[05:24] <top222> udo: Type "uname -a"
[05:25] <udo> and how can i update?
[05:25] <bobstro> Angel_Dex:  no need to live with that!
[05:25] <Winkie> udo: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade i guess
[05:25] <kane77> gnomefreak, IT WORSK... all that it needed was to "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libpng.so.3 /usr/lib/libpng.so.2"... :)
[05:25] <Ron_o> ubuntu will take care of that for you..
[05:25] <Angel_Dex> bobstro live?
[05:26] <Linuxn00b> Why dosent "make" work in ubuntu?
[05:26] <bobstro> Angel_Dex:  ah, didn't see *that*. sorry.
[05:26] <top222> udo: Using the package manager. If you already have 2.6.15 and Dapper, then it takes a lot figuring out before you have it.
[05:26] <bobstro> Angel_Dex:  was thinking desktop, sorry.
[05:26] <NoUse> !tell Linuxn00b about b-e
[05:26] <Angel_Dex> brb
[05:26] <_absolution_> in order for dvd play back....do I install the libdvdread3 package first???
[05:26] <Linuxn00b> i dont have internett on the linux PC :\
[05:27] <top222> I installed the network-manager-gnome package.  Now, how do I run it?
[05:27] <adamant1988> is anyone here knowledgeable about ATI drivers?
[05:27] <Ron_o> !ati
[05:27] <ubotu> I heard ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[05:28] <cherwin> Linuxn00b: you are asking very basic questions, use google to solve them ok
[05:28] <erich> top222: add yourself to the netdev group (well, at least on debian), and the network manager applet should be started on login automatically.
[05:30] <top222> erich: No such group in Dapper
[05:30] <erich> top222: maybe not needed then.
[05:30] <amortvigil> help i always get this error what do i have to do : error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH?
[05:30] <erich> top222: just try logging into gnome, if a network applet comes up
[05:30] <Stormx2> Does anyone have an ubuntu linux user bar?
[05:31] <NoUse> amortvigil install build-essential
[05:31] <frying_fish> amortvigil: apt-get install build-essential
[05:31] <frying_fish> should install it
[05:31] <ruxpin> how can I get the list of system daemons (services) from the command line?
[05:31] <TiZZ> does anyone know what i have to install to get the standard c headers (like stdio.h etc) i've installed gcc4 and gcc4 base and i still dont have them :(
[05:31] <frying_fish> and then make sure $path links to /usr/bin
[05:31] <myworld122> i still have no luck with repairing my MBR after installing XP? any other idea? I've tired both http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:31] <SAM_theman> Hey can I change the color of my fonts instead of black?
[05:32] <cherwin> adamant1988: just ask your question and see if someone knows something
[05:32] <NoUse> Stormx2 no, is this a user on your system that you didn't create?
[05:32] <frying_fish> TiZZ: build-essential should cover that too.
[05:32] <frying_fish> myworld122: does it just not go to grub at all after following the guide exactly
[05:32] <TiZZ> frying_fish: thanks :)
[05:32] <frying_fish> and what errors do you get whilst doing it.
[05:32] <erich> SAM_theman: in Gnome? I guess so, but I don't know of any fancy way. read the GTK theming docs
[05:32] <SAM_theman> ok
[05:33] <Stormx2> NoUse: Huh?
[05:33] <myworld122> frying_fish: it did boot up into grub but not into ubuntu
[05:33] <NoUse> Stormx2 you asked about a user 'bar', what did you mean?
[05:33] <bigfoot1> help. after installing xubuntu-desktop, some apps don't work anymore. for example: firefox and X-Lite (xtensphone). what happened?
[05:33] <frying_fish> myworld122: ok, well windows was probably default
[05:33] <Stormx2> NoUse: Its basicly a graphic which people put in forum signitures...
[05:33] <frying_fish> when grub loads can you even see the ubuntu stuff
[05:33] <NoUse> Stormx2 oh, nevermind
[05:33] <myworld122> frying_fish:  mope
[05:33] <frying_fish> (if you don't have it show detailed, as it says about grub press esc)
[05:34] <bigfoot1> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x08610a80 ***   Aborted
[05:34] <myworld122> frying_fish: nope
[05:34] <frying_fish> so even bringing up the full list didn't do it, right
[05:34] <frying_fish> well, if you have grub running, then boot up a live cd
[05:34] <frying_fish> mount your root partition, and chroot to it
[05:34] <frying_fish> then run update-grub
[05:34] <frying_fish> and see if that gives you them then.
[05:34] <bigfoot1> how do i re-install a program?
[05:34] <koala> ?
[05:34] <myworld122> frying_fish: any guide? im a noob! hehe
[05:35] <frying_fish> myworld122: follow the same guide as for getting grub back on the MBR
[05:35] <NoUse> bigfoot1 sudo apt-get --reinstall install <program>
[05:35] <frying_fish> but instead of typing grub-install and stuff like that, just type "update-grub"
[05:35] <evolux> hello! I have a problem: After upgrading to dapper, the kernel cannot mount the root fs in initrd saying "device or resource busy". It works with older kernel (2.6.12-9), though. Can anybody help me?
[05:35] <Awesome-o2000> how do I get out of the gui? I tried /etc/init.d/gdm stop and it didnt seem to affect anything...
[05:36] <frying_fish> Awesome-o2000: ctrl+alt+f1 will take you to a terminal
[05:36] <tristanmike> Awesome-o2000: did you use "sudo" with that command ?
[05:36] <frying_fish> and Awesome-o2000 for stopping gdm you need to be using root priveleges
[05:36] <cherwin> Awesome-o2000: init 3
[05:36] <Awesome-o2000> tristanmike, yes!
[05:36] <myworld122> frying_fish: but...i'm currently in my ubuntu....booting up using supergrub
[05:36] <bigfoot1> NoUse: oops. i don't think i installed the program via synaptic
[05:36] <myworld122> frying_fish: any help from here?
[05:36] <Awesome-o2000> init 3 nothing
[05:37] <amortvigil> what do i have to do?? make a target?? :root@amortvigil:/home/amortvigil/metacity-2.10.1# make install && install -v -m755 -d /usr/share/doc/metacity-2.10.1 && install -v -m644 README rationales.txt doc/*.txt     /usr/share/doc/metacity-2.10.1y
[05:37] <amortvigil> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[05:37] <POVaddct> how do i prevent dapper from loading the "thermal" module after resume?
[05:37] <cherwin> Awesome-o2000: init 2 then?
[05:37] <Awesome-o2000> i get no response from it I meant, sorry
[05:37] <frying_fish> myworld122: yeah, type sudo update-grub
[05:37] <setuid>  files list file for package `tetex-extra' is missing final newline
[05:37] <myworld122> ok!
[05:37] <setuid> Where is this "files list", so I can fix it?
[05:37] <frying_fish> that should then scroll some list.
[05:37] <Awesome-o2000> init 2 didint do it either. neither did /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:37] <evolux> was there some bigger change in initrd from breezy to dapper?
[05:38] <frying_fish> Awesome-o2000: are you doing "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[05:38] <frying_fish> or just "/etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[05:38] <Awesome-o2000> frying_fish, yes - I am a gentoo user
[05:38] <amortvigil> frying_fish: what do i have to change?? root@amortvigil:/home/amortvigil/metacity-2.10.1# make install && install -v -m755 -d /usr/share/doc/metacity-2.10.1 && install -v -m644 README rationales.txt doc/*.txt     /usr/share/doc/metacity-2.10.1y
[05:38] <amortvigil> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[05:38] <erich> SAM_theman: this is probably a good starting point: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes
[05:38] <frying_fish> and, if they don't work I would suggest that you don't have root priveleges (or you are not using gdm)
[05:38] <_absolution_> why wasn't open office installed on my upgrade??
[05:38] <myworld122> frying_fish: thanks! trying to restart now....
[05:38] <frying_fish> amortvigil: type make first?
[05:38] <_absolution_> can't find it anywhere....
[05:38] <tristanmike> amortvigil: please don't paste in here
[05:39] <frying_fish> not all that stuff, it usually requires building before installing.
[05:39] <SAM_theman> ok thanks i was going crazy
[05:39] <Awesome-o2000> frying_fish, im trying out the new ubuntu - I seem to have run into a pretty serious issue - I remember this used to be easy but gnome is rather stubborn
[05:39] <Subhuman> amortvigil, run make first.
[05:40] <Sp4rKy_> i've always my issue with my webcam , does anyone can help me ?
[05:40] <Starseed> hmm, google is down for me
[05:40] <Subhuman> amortvigil, do "make && sudo make install"
[05:40] <Starseed> that's odd
[05:40] <frying_fish> Awesome-o2000: right, so what is the problem then, and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop (from a console, not an xterm) should be enough to stop gdm
[05:40] <Subhuman> Sp4rKy_, look for EasyCam,
[05:40] <Starseed> well, now it's back . just real slow
[05:40] <Angel_Dex> does Nero work on Ubuntu?
[05:40] <Subhuman> Sp4rKy_, itz not in the repos but itz very good at sorting/installing webcams
[05:40] <RizCk> Angel_Dex yes.
[05:40] <Ron_o> Nero? as in cd burner?
[05:40] <TigerWolf> Angel_Dex: yes
[05:40] <frying_fish> Angel_Dex: there is nerolinux
[05:40] <Ron_o> sorry.
[05:41] <frying_fish> but there are plenty of other programs that do the job
[05:41] <Ron_o> nevermind.
[05:41] <frying_fish> and are OSS
[05:41] <Subhuman> Angel_Dex, i think k3b is very good.
[05:41] <tristanmike> Angel_Dex: you want k3b
[05:41] <Ron_o> k3b is awesome.
[05:41] <Ron_o> so is graveman.
[05:41] <Sp4rKy_> Subhuman, i've tried easycam(2) , easyspca , compiling from sources , and i've always the same issue :/
[05:41] <frying_fish> k3b is ok in kde, but not in gnome or xfce
[05:41] <tristanmike> Angel_Dex: there is also "gnomebaker"
[05:41] <Subhuman> Sp4rKy_, what kind of cam is it?
[05:41] <Ron_o> frying_fish, maybe that's my problem.
[05:41] <Subhuman> cuz i mean, ive got a ps2 eyetoy working in linux so ive had my fair share of headaches with webcams :P
[05:41] <_absolution_> is there a program out there where I can transfer songs from my ipod to the comp??
[05:41] <Ron_o> I didn't think of it in that sense.
[05:41] <tristanmike> frying_fish: I pretty much only use Gnome and I *only* use k3b and have *never* had a problem
[05:42] <Angel_Dex> I have a friend at work who argues with me that Linux does not have CD/DVD burning programs nor Adobe worthy media editing programs
[05:42] <Subhuman> btw eyetoys are GREAT webcams, esp. for the money.
[05:42] <Sp4rKy_> Subhuman, Vimicro webcam , listed at http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[05:42] <adamant1988> can anyone link me to some information about the R300 radeon drivers (the open source ones)?  There may be an issue with my graphics drivers (flgrx) and I have been told that switching drivers may help, but I can't figure out if my card is supported
[05:42] <frying_fish> tristanmike: yeah, it may not have a problem running
[05:42] <frying_fish> but it won't look as nice
[05:42] <Ron_o> Graveman is awesome and so is Sound Juicer.
[05:42] <frying_fish> it being a QT app, designed for use with KDE, rather than a GTK+ app.
[05:42] <evolux> can someone think of a case where mounting a volume results in a "device or resource busy" error?
[05:42] <top222> Ok, now the NetworkManager is broken
[05:42] <tristanmike> Angel_Dex: see k3b for burning and see Gimp/Incscape/Scribus for Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign
[05:42] <frying_fish> adamant1988: the "radeon" driver with xorg will run that card.
[05:43] <top222> "There are no available network devices."
[05:43] <tristanmike> frying_fish: it looks pretty here
[05:43] <frying_fish> evolux: where its currently accessing it in another way
[05:43] <top222> Really, my ethernet existed a minute ago, and my WLAN card is still there
[05:43] <frying_fish> tristanmike: I don't like it so much, doesn't work with the rest of things properly, but thats my opinion.
[05:43] <tristanmike> Angel_Dex: that's Inkscape, not Incscape
[05:43] <adamant1988> frying_fish: will it still give me open gl support?
[05:44] <tristanmike> frying_fish: probably your experience too, mine has been great tho :)
[05:44] <frying_fish> not as good, but should do.
[05:44] <evolux> frying_fish: i mean, it must be locked in some way, but it's right at the start of the bootup process
[05:44] <Angel_Dex> Now is there High quality video editing and Encoding type programs?
[05:44] <ptr__> When I put in my USB-hdd, it mounts perfectly, but It's write-protected ... can I change that? (It's an NTFS-disc)
[05:44] <setuid>  files list file for package `tetex-extra' is missing final newline
[05:44] <setuid> Where is this "files list", so I can fix it?
[05:44] <frying_fish> evolux: maybe the bios needs to assign longer before starting, to allow the drives to start up.
[05:44] <kadambi> Unable to play songs using realplayer on 6.06
[05:44] <Spec> Where can I find documentation/API for ".glade2" files?
[05:44] <top222> Thus far Dapper has only made me want to chop some heads off.  No external mouse, no wlan, no cpufreq.
[05:44] <frying_fish> Angel_Dex: some yes, avidemux, mencoder and such.
[05:44] <setuid> top222, Works flawless here on my Thinkpad
[05:44] <Spec> top222: that's unforunate :-/
[05:44] <top222> setuid: What does it say?
[05:45] <setuid> top222, Everything worked great out of the box
[05:45] <Spec> +t
[05:45] <top222> setuid: I have a T22
[05:45] <evolux> frying_fish: the system drops me into a shell and mounting later doesn't work either
[05:45] <frying_fish> most works on my laptop and deskto
[05:45] <setuid> top222, Works on my T23 and T42p
[05:45] <frying_fish> although having some funny build error with some programs currently.
[05:45] <erich> top222: check the readme for network manager.
[05:45] <frying_fish> (only on laptop)
[05:45] <frying_fish> evolux: broken drive?
[05:45] <top222> setuid: A PCMCIA Atheros card here
[05:45] <kadambi> Unable to play songs using realplayer on 6.06
[05:45] <Angel_Dex> Oks o.o and he argues that it cant do todays windows video games without emulaters This is true no?
[05:45] <top222> erich: Where?
[05:45] <erich> top222: I don't know about ubuntu, but on debian it will only manage interfaces set up in a certain way (in order not to break certain existing configurations)
[05:45] <erich> top222: /usr/share/doc/packagename
[05:46] <erich> top222: where all other documentation lives...
[05:46] <evolux> frying_fish: it works with an older kernel
[05:46] <top222> erich: I thought it was there to set up the interfaces in the first place
[05:46] <frying_fish> Angel_Dex: yes its true, as they use (mostly) directX
[05:46] <frying_fish> and that is a microsoft creation.
[05:46] <erich> top222: no. there is plenty of stuff you can't do with network manager (yet)
[05:46] <frying_fish> evolux: interesting, very interesting, try booting with noapic and acpi=off
[05:46] <setuid> top222, Sounds like you mucked something up, works great here
[05:46] <Angel_Dex> frying_fish alrighty i think i can get him hooked as long as he keeps windows for games
[05:47] <Bassetts> hey sladen, im back
[05:47] <adamant1988> frying_fish: where can I find the driver then?
[05:47] <evolux> frying_fish: i suppose it's rather a problem in the initial ramdisk, but i can be wrong.
[05:47] <frying_fish> adamant1988: its included with xorg
[05:47] <adamant1988> oh.. how do I enable it?
[05:47] <myworld122> frying_fish:still no luck...i keep booting into linux
[05:47] <frying_fish> so, just edit your xorg.conf to use "radeon" instead of fglrx.
[05:47] <evolux> frying_fish: do you suggest anything else i can try when rebooting, because it's this machine that is broken.
[05:47] <adamant1988> ok :)
[05:47] <Ron_o> is there a way for me to stop k3b from stopping md5'ing my iso?
[05:48] <frying_fish> evolux: not off hang.
[05:48] <Ron_o> while were a bit on the subject. :)
[05:48] <frying_fish> Angel_Dex: yeah, although a lot of games work fine with wine
[05:48] <myworld122> frying_fish:* keep booting into XP..
[05:48] <evolux> frying_fish: ok, i'll try
[05:49] <Angel_Dex> frying_fish Mm i doubt the games he plays will this dude says he owns over 1000 titles
[05:49] <frying_fish> myworld122: when grub comes up are you changing to boot from ubuntu
[05:49] <frying_fish> not just letting it boot the default
[05:49] <frying_fish> which could well be set to XP
[05:49] <Angel_Dex> frying_fish and i dont doubt him hes crazy enough to buy um like that
[05:49] <ruxpin> how can I get the list of system daemons (services) from the command line?
[05:49] <frying_fish> Angel_Dex: such as...
[05:49] <Angel_Dex> frying_fish every game that gets a good rating
[05:49] <frying_fish> Angel_Dex: http://appdb.winehq.org
[05:49] <frying_fish> for a look in to what can be played
[05:50] <Toge> hello
[05:50] <Angel_Dex> frying_fish nope that isnt high end things like he plays
[05:50] <Toge> do you know a program to mount images? (iso, bin/cue, nrg, mds/mdf, img...)
[05:50] <top222> setuid: I'm trying to find out how it is supposed to be done.  I upgraded from 5.10, where the Atheros card remained unused, because I already had gone through the fight with Gentoo residing on the same machine.
[05:50] <myworld122> frying_fish: I have to install grub again? because when i the grub booted before....i repair my MBR with XP recovery...
[05:50] <Angel_Dex> such as the game fear
[05:51] <frying_fish> myworld122: well yes you do.
[05:51] <Mysta> hey guys if i need a vnc server installed do i select vino from synaptic??
[05:51] <henrique_> Alguem do Brasil ?
[05:51] <setuid> top222, wipe and reinstall clean from Ubuntu
[05:51] <setuid> er, Dapper
[05:51] <myworld122> frying_fish: ok
[05:51] <frying_fish> myworld122: the XP recovery overwrites the MBR with the windows bootloader, so you won't have grub on there anymore
[05:51] <frying_fish> so reinstall it, then run update-grub
[05:51] <SAM_theman> Muhaha'
[05:51] <frying_fish> then reboot, and make sure you get the menu which lists which things you can boot from it
[05:51] <frying_fish> should be some ubuntu stuff, and XP, and memtest
[05:52] <frying_fish> then select the ubuntu one
[05:52] <ruxpin> Toge: pass '-o loop' to mount
[05:52] <SAM_theman> brb
[05:52] <opusmaxx> Hey guys... I just decided to stop dual booting and use linux as my primary os!! Is there any way I can format my ntfs drive from ubuntu? (as in secure erase kind of thing)
[05:52] <frying_fish> opusmaxx: yes
[05:52] <neutrinomass> opusmaxx: System->Administration->disks ?
[05:52] <frying_fish> how "secure" do you want it?
[05:52] <sin> uiuy
[05:52] <sin> kjjylk
[05:52] <sin> i
[05:52] <GUARDiAN|nb> anyone here who has internet explorer installed using wine?
[05:53] <top222> The screensaver fades to black twice
[05:53] <henrique_> como configuro o ubuntu pra ler dvds ?
[05:53] <opusmaxx> frying_fish, nothing like gutmann or anything... just a very, very basic wipe
[05:53] <Sp4rKy_> i've always my issue with my webcam , does anyone can help me ?
[05:53] <eugene_> hello
[05:53] <joel> Gaurdian: I have IE6 SP1 installed in CrossoverOffice
[05:53] <frying_fish> opusmaxx: you could use fdisk, (run it as sudo using fdisk -l to get a list of drives) then when thats done, find out which drive and do fdisk /dev/XdYZ
[05:53] <frying_fish> and follow its options.
[05:53] <eugene_> on ubuntu 6.06, totem will not start because the machine does not have a soundcard.  any ideas?
[05:54] <Ingmar^> clear
[05:54] <frying_fish> henrique_: en ingles
[05:54] <frying_fish> or rather, in english.
[05:54] <Moein> What's difference between DVD+R disc and DVD-R disc ?!
[05:54] <opusmaxx> frying_fish, do i unmount the drive first?
[05:54] <adamant1988> frying_fish: may I pm you?
[05:54] <SAM_theman> Ok I have a little problem guys
[05:54] <Amaranth> Moein: Some goofy low level stuff no one pays attention to anymore.
[05:54] <frying_fish> opusmaxx: sudo umount /path/to/drive
[05:54] <neutrinomass> opusmaxx: You can format it using System->Administration->disks. This doesn't ensure that data will be *wiped* out, as in securely-non-recoverable. To ensure the latter you can try filling the partition with random data from /dev/random ...
[05:54] <frying_fish> then, do fdisk on it
[05:55] <frying_fish> change the flag to a linux partition
[05:55] <Amaranth> Moein: Unless you have old hardware everything you have should be able to read/write either one.
[05:55] <frying_fish> then if you want reiser, type mkreiserfs /drive/location
[05:55] <GUARDiAN|nb> joel: could you take a look at nbc.intern.creativedevelopment.de/nbc and maybe send me a screenshot?
[05:55] <Gradius9> hi
[05:55] <SAM_theman> Everytime I reboot my Computer I have to do these commands every time i want to play Enemy Terrriory (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory#head-9f3827d99a2c4bbfc379e6e923b6e3778f9ce2fe)
[05:55] <Moein> Amaranth, in performance, both are the same ?
[05:56] <SAM_theman> Is there a way I can have it auto to everytime I play it it works??
[05:56] <myworld122> frying_fish: how do I install grub if i'm already in my Ubuntu?
[05:56] <opusmaxx> neutrinomass, i see.. I kind of wanted something a bit more secure than just reformatting to ext3, but i have no idea how to do the /dev/random thing
[05:56] <frying_fish> myworld122: same as if you were on the livecd
[05:56] <frying_fish> but without having to do the chroot first
[05:56] <frying_fish> read the wiki guide on it.
[05:56] <Angel_Dex> frying_fish god i really hate some of those titles
[05:56] <tr1gg3r> SAM_theman: as the guide says write  script and use that script to launch the game
[05:57] <SAM_theman> I did same thing
[05:57] <BitWitty> I'm running dual-monitors. one video card is built-in on th motherboard, the other is an nvidia mx400. I want to run Planet Penguin Racer using the nvidia, but it startups on the other monitor.
[05:57] <BitWitty> How can I change that?
[05:57] <Amaranth> Moein: As far as I know, yes.
[05:58] <neutrinomass> opusmaxx: `cat /dev/random > /mnt/newpartition/blah` . At some point the partition will fill up and you will get errors. 'rm /mnt/newpartition/blah'. repeat 2-3 times and I doubt the data will be recoverable (not without thousands of dollars, that is )
[05:58] <Frogzoo> BitWitty: swap the cables over?
[05:58] <adamant1988> frying_fish: are you sure I only have to change flgrx to radeon?
[05:58] <frying_fish> fairly sure, don't have my box with an ATI card in right now to test.
[05:58] <Frogzoo> BitWitty: try setting DISPLAY
[05:58] <frying_fish> maybe do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:58] <tuxtheslacker> adamant1988, what's the question?
[05:58] <frying_fish> and see if you can get it to radeon.
[05:59] <Gradius9> question: I have 2 disks in my computer on 160 gb, all formatted as ntfs... one of them has a 5 gb partion which is used by /windows/, now I am going to ditch windows and switch to ubuntu and install it on that 5gb partion (I will format it as ext and lose all windows settings.) but on the other NTFS partion / disk I want to keep the data, I have no extra space to backup it on so is it possibel to convert a ntfs volume to ext and not lose the
[05:59] <Gradius9>  data contained...?
[05:59] <skybox> hi! what's the quickest way to check your dvd burners settings/bitsetting in console?
[05:59] <adamant1988> I'm trying to enable the open source drivers for my system because the closed ones are giving me some problem tuxtheslacker.
[05:59] <adamant1988> Uhm, I'm not sure what to edit but here is a paste bin of my xorg.conf
[05:59] <frying_fish> Gradius9: no, not as far as I know.
[05:59] <adamant1988> http://pastebin.com/704514
[05:59] <SeanTater> how might one put {k,x,}ubuntu on a USB pen drive?
[05:59] <tuxtheslacker> adamant1988, all you have ot do is change driver "fglrx" to either driver "ati" or driver "radeon"
[05:59] <opusmaxx> neutrinomass, cool. thanks a lot buddy.
[05:59] <kfirb> hi guys, I  dled a .iso file, checked its md5sum and it matches. now I want to check the gpg signature of the md5sums, but I get: DSA key ID 88C7C1F7
[05:59] <tr1gg3r> Gradius9: no conversion possibl, but linux willo be able to read ntfs, just not write to ntfs
[05:59] <SAM_theman> ok brb
[05:59] <adamant1988> tuxtheslacker: that won't break my system?
[06:00] <kfirb> how can I find that key to verify the signature?
[06:00] <Gradius9> frying_fish: ok thanks. but I have heard that ubuntu reads ntfs so I have no real problems right?
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> adamant1988, the only thing it COULD break is X.
[06:00] <frying_fish> adamant1988: just change fglrx to radeon
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> adamant1988, AND, that should do it.
[06:00] <Gradius9> tr1gg3r: you said it. thanks
[06:00] <frying_fish> Gradius9: it reads yes, but it doesn't write.
[06:00] <tr1gg3r> np
[06:00] <BitWitty> Frogzoo, yeah, I can swap cables, but I was wondering if there was a way of telling a program which screen to start up in via the command line.
[06:00] <cherwin> admant1988: execute 'aticonfig --initial' and then you're card is automatically set up
[06:00] <amortvigil> frying fish: what does this mean?? : checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.2.0 pango >= 1.2.0 gconf-2.0 >= 1.2.0 xrender >= 0.0... Package gconf-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gconf-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gconf-2.0' found
[06:00] <amortvigil> configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.2.0 pango >= 1.2.0 gconf-2.0 >= 1.2.0 xrender >= 0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[06:00] <adamant1988> ok, I'll just save a backup copy of the xorg.conf
[06:00] <Frogzoo> BitWitty: try setting 'export DISPLAY=:1.0'
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> adamant1988, but, it should work.
[06:01] <frying_fish> adamant1988: http://pastebin.com/704526
[06:01] <frying_fish> amortvigil: it means you don't have the development version of that
[06:01] <tuxtheslacker> adamant1988, you may still have the old drivers on your system, but that doesn't mean they have to be installed. someone here could help you with removing the actual files I'm sure.
[06:01] <frying_fish> this isn't an ubuntu related issue though, you should be asking on the forum / irc of what ever program you are trying to build, to make sure you know what dependencies you need.
[06:01] <Gradius9> frying_fish: tr1gg3r :, hm... I can format free space to ext and then move stuff over and format the empty ntfs to ext and merge to two ext partions without losing data..?
[06:02] <skybox> hi! what's the quickest way to check your dvd burners settings/bitsetting/specifications in console?
[06:02] <frying_fish> technically, I think you can yes.
[06:02] <BitWitty> Frogzoo, thanks. I'll try that.
[06:02] <frying_fish> but, I would recommend reiser over ext3
[06:02] <chavo> amortvigil, what are you trying to build?
[06:02] <Frogzoo> Gradius9: you can't 'merge' partitions - but you can delete the higher one, and grow the lower one without damaging the data on the lower partition
[06:03] <tr1gg3r> Gradius9: there are tools to merge but ive never tried it, u might want to use lvm to make that quite simple, than u wont need to merge the partitions just add the new one to the lvm group
[06:03] <Gradius9> frying_fish: I am a newbie, and I just going to use the computer as a fileserver for two macs... maybe with smb, still recommend reiser?
[06:03] <adamant1988> frying_fish:  do I need to delete the section that said vesa?
[06:03] <tr1gg3r> Gradius9: err not merge but resize
[06:03] <Gradius9> Frogzoo: thanks for info.
[06:03] <frying_fish> Gradius9: I use it over ext3, I have a 1.2TB system using reiser, (purely via smb) and it works fine.
[06:03] <frying_fish> adamant1988: well its not being used, so you may aswell,.
[06:03] <adamant1988> ok
[06:04] <Gradius9> smb: has some limitations on filenaming, right?
[06:04] <Gradius9> frying_fish:
[06:04] <keleus> If i issued "echo password | md5sum" would the reason that md5 sum isn't working in my grub menu.lst be that it includes a linefeed?
[06:04] <frying_fish> Gradius9: not that I have noticed..
[06:04] <Frogzoo> Gradius9: it's configurable
[06:04] <frying_fish> except it doesn't like ? in a file name, if you are transferring using nautillus.
[06:04] <sin> si hay algun espaol que se coneste con sin
[06:05] <Gradius9> nautillus, and what is that?
[06:05] <frying_fish> what is what?
[06:05] <Frogzoo> keleus: you want grub-md5-crypt
[06:05] <Gradius9> "if you are transferring using nautillus."
[06:05] <frying_fish> nautilus? its the graphical file manager in gnome.
[06:05] <keleus> Thanks Frogzoo, i was wondering what the best way to do that was :)
[06:05] <Gradius9> ok...
[06:06] <frying_fish> if I have my smb partition mounted, and just try to do copy paste from that, it says it can't find the file when trying to write it to other system
[06:06] <SAM_theman> I got the sound problem fix now
[06:06] <Frogzoo> keleus: yw
[06:06] <frying_fish> other than that, its fine.
[06:06] <sullivan> hey all
[06:06] <chavo> Sin, aqui no hay
[06:06] <Gradius9> I am a total newbie, just installed it on two portables, and very impressed. I am a daily user of os x, but probably will learn more about ubuntu in the next days
[06:07] <kandinski> Gradius9: do you have Xgl yet?
[06:07] <kandinski> compose-like?
[06:07] <Gradius9> frying_fish: It supports japanese chars, and very long filenames...
[06:07] <keleus> Frogzoo; that looks better. there are symbols in there (before it was all hex)
[06:07] <sullivan> Gradius9: Dapper is a great place to start, I started splitting my tine btw ubuntu and oxs last version and it's gotten much smoother with this last release
[06:07] <Gradius9> kandinski: seen movies from it, but will not use it because the server is headless.. my workstation will be os x
[06:07] <frying_fish> Gradius9: how long is very long
[06:07] <Gradius9> 128+
[06:07] <frying_fish> and about japanese chars, don't know
[06:07] <Gradius9> chars
[06:08] <frying_fish> haven't got files bigger than that I don't think
[06:08] <myworld122>  frying_fish: Thank YOU!!! everything is fixed...damned windows! :-P
[06:08] <frying_fish> read up on samba's home page.
[06:08] <keleus> sullivan; im a native windows user, and ive been around the block as far as distros go (except mandrake and slackware basically)
[06:08] <frying_fish> myworld122: thought it wouldn't be too hard
[06:08] <rigonatti> hi all !!
[06:08] <sullivan> hey there
[06:08] <rigonatti> can someone help me with partitions in ubuntu ?
[06:09] <keleus> sullivan; spending more and more time here. Just recently i got diablo II working COMPLETELY under wine (faster than in windows for some reason) so the only reason i have to stay in windows is FL Studio and Properllerheads Reason
[06:09] <Ayabara> I have a permissions issue. created an ext3 partition and mounted it with default options in fstab. now I can't write to it. permissions are set to '755'
[06:09] <rapha> Just ask away rigonatti
[06:09] <sullivan> rigonatti: what are you trying to do
[06:09] <Gradius9> frying_fish: thanks for info, I think everything will work nicely
[06:09] <frying_fish> :)
[06:09] <keleus> and i have a strange feeling that neither of those programs will work well in wine :)
[06:09] <Ayabara> permissions on /dev/sda3 and on mountpoint /media/sda3 are set to '755'
[06:09] <rigonatti> i Have a 250GB SATA ... but for some reason ..i cant see two fat32 partitions
[06:09] <rapha> keleus: that's a well-known fact for quite some Windows applications. The WINE implementation of some Win32 APIs seems to be superior to their original :)
[06:09] <sullivan> keleus: D2? tTey haven't gotten you to move onto WOW yet?
[06:09] <Frogzoo> keleus: diablo ] [ is opengl iirc, so will run faster under wine
[06:09] <Gradius9> what about firewalls in ubuntu it has a stanard built in and its on from installation?
[06:10] <rapha> rigonatti: might be a SATA problem; maybe somebody who also has SATA can speak up?
[06:10] <keleus> sullivan; laptop
[06:10] <keleus> Frogzoo; no, the openGL is broken - its D3D with improper initialization.
[06:10] <Frogzoo> sullivan: & what's wrong with WoW???? :P
[06:10] <sullivan> keleus: I played way too many WOW hours on a tiny mac laptop
[06:10] <keleus> Frogzoo; in any case i use software mode (required by wine, and in windows D3D runs like crap on this machine)
[06:10] <rigonatti> i dont think its a SATA problem ...coz the ubuntu is in another partition in the same HD
[06:10] <frying_fish> Ayabara: change the ownership of the drive.
[06:10] <rapha> Gradius9: Ubuntu doesn't need a firewall in its default config since there are no services enabled whatsoever.
[06:10] <Frogzoo> keleus: wine 0.9.15 ? it's greatly improved
[06:11] <frying_fish> rapha: that doesn't stop people finding ways in.
[06:11] <rapha> Gradius9: when you install servers it is assumed that you also know how to install a firewall.
[06:11] <keleus> Frogzoo; well, i haven't TRIED it...
[06:11] <Gradius9> rapha, going to open up for samba externally / vnc internally / ssh externally
[06:11] <sullivan> has anyone had trouble with ppp since the last update?
[06:11] <keleus> Frogzoo; but the comments in the application database all said to use software mode
[06:11] <Ayabara> frying_fish: how do I do that?
[06:11] <frying_fish> Gradius9: then some knowledge of iptables would be useful.
[06:11] <rapha> frying_fish: a firewall couldn't prevent it in these cases. I'd also argue that it's extremely hard to get into a default Ubuntu install.
[06:11] <Gradius9> rapha: Just know the ON button i windows
[06:11] <Frogzoo> keleus: appdb knows best ;)
[06:11] <frying_fish> Ayabara: sudo chown -R user:user /foo
[06:11] <sullivan> the most recent version doesn't seem to be passing environment variables on so it keeps asking for my ssh info
[06:11] <dawson_> hi, i am a complete newbe and am trying to install java, and not getting very far. All the online help requires 'fakeroot', which i have managed to find and install a package for. But i can not get the java package thing to work. Any help, any step by step guides out there?
[06:12] <rapha> Gradius9: feel safe in Ubuntu unless you've knowingly installed a web server or something.
[06:12] <frying_fish> rapha: oh ok.
[06:12] <Ayabara> frying_fish: thanks
[06:12] <frying_fish> I need to look at optimising my iptables stuff soon
[06:12] <evolux> frying_fish: ok, problem solved. the kernel re-numbered the drives, so hda was now part of the raid and "busy" and the new root drive is hde1. Thanks for your help!
[06:12] <NoUse> dawson_ the wiki page on restricted formats is good
[06:12] <frying_fish> evolux: there you go.
[06:12] <NoUse> !tell dawson_ about restricted
[06:12] <keleus> dawson_; you want the runtime environment or development stuff?
[06:12] <Gradius9> rapha: thanks, guess I will figure it out when I am at it.. just preparing for the install...
[06:12] <Bassetts> what ftp client would someone recommend?
[06:12] <rapha> Gradius9: if you're a sucker for security you might want to build up a dedicated firewall box using OpenBSD (openbsd.org)
[06:12] <keleus> Bassetts; ftp
[06:12] <sullivan> :)
[06:12] <rapha> Bassetts: CLI or GUI?
[06:12] <rigonatti> i Have a 250GB SATA ... but for some reason ..i cant see two fat32 partitions
[06:13] <Bassetts> GUI
[06:13] <Gradius9> rapha: My router has a pretty ok firewall also...
[06:13] <frying_fish> rigonatti: do they not show in /etc/fstab
[06:13] <rapha> Gradius9: in that case :-)
[06:13] <keleus> Bassetts; oh a GUI.... ok, use ftp in an xterm
[06:13] <keleus> :D
[06:13] <Gradius9> rapha: and the network is only between my own machines.
[06:13] <Tobberoth> rigonatti: Have you mounted them?
[06:13] <rigonatti> http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/307
[06:13] <rapha> Bassetts: how about Nautilus?
[06:13] <dawson_> both, i wish to develop my own java apps
[06:13] <Bassetts> can it do it?
[06:13] <rigonatti> Tobberoth  I just use the Gparted to format the partition
[06:13] <rapha> Bassetts: just do Alt-F2 and in the appearing dialog enter "nautilus<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:14] <keleus> dawson_; i had some helpful info for the runtime, but since you want the JDK i cant really help
[06:14] <Samus_Aran> if anyone wants to fix a typo on the wiki (I don't have a login and have no time to create one): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrintingCupsWebInterface?highlight=%28sudo%29
[06:14] <rigonatti> Tobberoth :  Need to do anything else ?
[06:14] <Samus_Aran> there are two sudo's
[06:14] <Bassetts> thanks rapha
[06:14] <rapha> Bassetts: you can even create a starter on the desktop which will open the ftp directory
[06:14] <Tobberoth> rigonatti: Oh.. i personally had a lot of trouble with gparted, so I don't know..
[06:14] <rapha> hth Bassetts :)
[06:14] <dawson_> ok, can you give me the runtime info
[06:14] <synap> ekiga-enabled guys around ?
[06:14] <dawson_> i am willing to hold off on the other
[06:14] <NoUse> dawson_ you on dapper?
[06:14] <dawson_> no, horey
[06:14] <rigonatti> in true...my last try was format with Partition Magic in Windows..
[06:14] <rigonatti> The partitions Works fine on windows...
[06:15] <rigonatti> but ..in linux i cant access
[06:15] <rigonatti> got it ?
[06:15] <austrabi> hey!, I got a question: where is the networking configuration stored? Like the one that determines how you connect to a network or internet. I want to use DHCP.
[06:15] <NoUse> dawson_ I see, our of curiousity, any reason you are running such an old version?
[06:15] <keleus> dawson_; actually, i have all my repositories enabled and the package you need is sun-java5-jdk
[06:15] <NoUse> keleus thats only on dapper
[06:16] <keleus> crap
[06:16] <jrattner> Anyone know a thing about html iFrames that could help me out for a minute or two?
[06:16] <jrattner> ?
[06:16] <dawson_> not especially, just had the cd lying around facied spreading my linux wings, you recommend an upgrade then?
[06:16] <keleus> sorry dawson_
[06:16] <keleus> thought i could be helpful, guess not this time :)
[06:16] <austrabi> can anybody help me?
[06:16] <keleus> austrabi; yea, hold on a sec
[06:16] <Frogzoo> austrabi: /etc/network/interfaces ...
[06:16] <Samus_Aran> can someone suggest why OpenOffice.org is not seeing 90% of my fonts which are available to Xorg and other apps ?
[06:17] <Dyegov> How do I delete a file logged in as root from the terminal?
[06:17] <NoUse> dawson_ I would recommend upgrading, but you don't have to just for java
[06:17] <Samus_Aran> I think it is missing all the TTFs I have
[06:17] <Tobberoth> dawson_: Get dapper
[06:17] <rigonatti> Tobberoth any idea ?? I mean ....even if I use qparted ... i need to mount  ?
[06:17] <keleus> austrabi; /etc/network/
[06:17] <Samus_Aran> the fonts show up in xfontsel and xlsfont and so on
[06:17] <Ron_o> Dyegov, rm..
[06:17] <Ron_o> watchout though..
[06:17] <keleus> austrabi; pay special attention to the /etc/network/interfaces file
[06:17] <Tobberoth> rigonatti: I think you still need to mount, but I'm not sure.. I think gparted probably mounts the partitions itself..
[06:17] <keleus> and i would keep a working backup in case of error
[06:17] <Frogzoo> Dyegov: best not delete files owned by root unless you know what the file's for
[06:17] <dawson_> upgrade or clean install? which is quicker/eaiser?
[06:17] <Tobberoth> Hehe, not to sure, I never got that far with it myself.
[06:17] <keleus> upgrade
[06:17] <Tobberoth> You could try using fdisk
[06:17] <Ayabara> frying_fish: changed ownership and remounted, but it didn't work
[06:17] <NoUse> !tell dawson_ about upgrade
[06:18] <keleus> dawson_; if you have breezy theres actually an automated system in place. NoUse just told you how :)
[06:18] <Dyegov> Frogzoo, I know what it's, thanx ;)
[06:18] <mleon> ola
[06:18] <mleon> quieneres
[06:18] <rigonatti> Tobberoth ...so ..how do I check this ..or do manually ?
[06:18] <frying_fish> Ayabara: well it should have
[06:18] <NoUse> dawson_ if you just install hoary and you haven't done anything with it, I would just get the dapper ISO and do a fresh install
[06:19] <Frogzoo> rigonatti: I'd really recommend only using qparted to resize from a live cd with all your file systems unmounted - it's less grief this way
[06:19] <frying_fish> if you have the correct permissions and stuff
[06:19] <hernan82arg> hi all
[06:19] <frying_fish> anyway, I am watching world cup now so see you guys later.
[06:19] <austrabi> keleus, thanks a lot I will try that
[06:19] <mleon> SPAA
[06:19] <hernan82arg> hey people, i need install testopia in my box
[06:19] <Ayabara> frying_fish: should the permissions be '777'?
[06:19] <keleus> austrabi; no problem.
[06:19] <Tobberoth> If you want to work with partitions without gparted, open terminal and write cfdisk
[06:19] <Tobberoth> you probably need a sudo before that
[06:20] <hernan82arg> but i don't find any package in the repository
[06:20] <mleon> DE DONDE SOIS
[06:20] <hernan82arg> argentina
[06:20] <rigonatti> Tobbertot: You mean start a live session and format the prtitions ?
[06:20] <keleus> what would i do to get new files created under /home directories be completely unreadable for "other" users? (not owner/group)
[06:20] <hernan82arg> mleon, espaol?
[06:20] <rigonatti> Tobberoth: but Gparted isnt on live CD
[06:20] <Tobberoth> rigonatti: Well.. I don't know, depends on what situation you're in etc.
[06:21] <wsjunior> how do i forbid a mudule from loading?
[06:21] <mleon> nose habrar vuestro idioma
[06:21] <Ron_o> cfdisk is actually quite easy to use...
[06:21] <earthen> start the usb hotplug system
[06:21] <Tobberoth> Ron_o: I agree.
[06:21] <rigonatti> Can anyone help me with some partitions ?
[06:21] <wsjunior> i dont want that bcm4xx module to be loaded. how do i block it?
[06:21] <hernan82arg> mleon, no hablas espaol?
[06:21] <mleon> no me ablais
[06:21] <earthen> how do I restart the USB hotplug system?
[06:22] <SuseUX> can anyone send me theer default xorg.conf?
[06:22] <NoUse> rigonatti if you can be more specific with your question you'll probably get a better response
[06:22] <wsjunior> isnt there a blacklist to block that module?
[06:22] <SuseUX> or post it?
[06:22] <hernan82arg> mleon, de donde eres?
[06:22] <mleon> espaa
[06:22] <hernan82arg> bueno, en argentina tambien hablamos espaol
[06:22] <Chri[s] > how do i a new X window session from command line terminal if one is already running startx :01 ?
[06:23] <NoUse> wsjunior add "blacklist <modname>" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:23] <XiXaQ> could someone with an updated 6.06 check to see if their ntp is active and installed? Mine was suddenly disabled.
[06:23] <mleon> no os cachondeis
[06:23] <rigonatti> NoUse: I have a 250GB with Ubuntu and some other partitions. The Gparted show my 2 FAT32 partitons but i can access that..
[06:23] <Tobberoth> hernan82arg y mleon: #ubuntu-es
[06:23] <rigonatti> http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/307
[06:23] <Ron_o> ntp: network time protocol?
[06:23] <XiXaQ> yes
[06:24] <hernan82arg> Tobberoth, thx
[06:24] <_absolution_> how do you set up a printer on Dapper?
[06:24] <mleon> os gusta el mundial
[06:24] <Ron_o> you can check it in BUM to see if it starts up auto..
[06:24] <Ron_o> !printer
[06:24] <ubotu> from memory, printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[06:24] <NoUse> rigonatti did you run gparted with sudo?
[06:24] <XiXaQ> Ron_o, was that last message for me?
[06:24] <Chri[s] > wow
[06:24] <Ron_o> No..
[06:24] <XiXaQ> :)
[06:25] <NoUse> rigonatti also, you can't change paritions while they are mounted
[06:25] <Ron_o> _absolution_, setting up the printing system is automatic. Look for system > cups or something similar and go from there.
[06:25] <hernan82arg> bugzilla@bugzilla:~/bla2$ sudo perl tr_install.pl
[06:25] <hernan82arg> Can't locate Bugzilla.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at tr_install.pl line 26.
[06:25] <mleon> llamame 617699138
[06:25] <rigonatti> NoUse... I used the Partition MAgic in Windows to format...Windows See the partitions normally ....but Linux dont !
[06:25] <jbroome> mleon: you want us to call you?
[06:26] <NoUse> rigonatti the picture you posted was too small for me to read
[06:26] <hernan82arg> hehe
[06:26] <mleon> hijo de puta
[06:26] <hernan82arg> any can help me?
[06:26] <rapha> PartitionMagic f***** up more than one harddrive for me. Stopped using it.
[06:26] <rapha> mleon: language?
[06:26] <earthen> anyone know how i can restart the usb hotplug system I thought it was in /etc/init.d./hotplug...   but it not there
[06:26] <hernan82arg> mleon, close your mouth
[06:26] <mleon> gilipollas
[06:27] <Frogzoo> earthen: it was in breezy - I think hotplug's been completely redone though
[06:27] <jbroome> he needs some chowdah!
[06:27] <mleon> chupamela
[06:27] <earthen> Frogzoo,  O I C! so how do I restart it
[06:28] <rigonatti> NoUse: hold on
[06:28] <mleon> besame el culo
[06:28] <Frogzoo> earthen: when you find out, let me know - soz
[06:28] <hernan82arg> bye people
[06:28] <earthen> Frogzoo, my palm failed to hotsync and i don't want to reboot every time that it does
[06:29] <rigonatti> Nouse ?
[06:29] <NoUse> rigonatti yes?
[06:29] <rigonatti> Nouse http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/307
[06:29] <rigonatti> ops
[06:29] <mleon> quien se a ido?
[06:29] <rigonatti> http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/308
[06:29] <schultzconsult> How do I use keys to switch between desktop 1 2 3 4?
[06:29] <jbroome> schultzconsult: ctrl-alt right/left arrow key
[06:29] <schultzconsult> tanks
[06:29] <mleon> SE AN IDO 4 ?
[06:30] <rigonatti> take a look at the two last lines.... its two fat32 partitons with a "!" symbol
[06:30] <NoUse> rigonatti same problem, open up a terminal and run 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda' and pastebin that
[06:30] <sparkleytone> so is breezy support in a different channel now?
[06:30] <schultzconsult> sorry not tanks, thanks
[06:30] <schultzconsult> we are not at war ;-)
[06:30] <jbroome> man, i thought i was getting some armor.  bummer
[06:30] <Ron_o> sparkleytone, no.
[06:30] <alex_> is amarok crashing on anyone after doing the install libmad0 libxine-extracodecs ?
[06:30] <schultzconsult> give all seems not to work in here - lol
[06:31] <Snurf> If I log into SSH and wget a file that is very big and will take awhile, can I close the SSH window and will the server keep getting the file?
[06:31] <Frogzoo> alex_: this 4 kde?
[06:31] <alex_> Frogzoo: Yes
[06:31] <sparkleytone> Snurf: you need to use screen
[06:31] <Snurf> Crap
[06:31] <Snurf> Ok thanks
[06:31] <nicholaspaul> I'm having trouble mounting an internal HD - when i mount -a , it says the folder i'm trying to mount to is busy. What should i do?
[06:31] <sparkleytone> Snurf: such as "screen wget blahblah"
[06:31] <Snurf> yup
[06:31] <Frogzoo> alex_: ah, can't say - works fine on gnome though - consider amarok 1.4 though
[06:31] <sparkleytone> Snurf: then you detach the screen using ctrl-d
[06:31] <sparkleytone> meh....gone
[06:32] <alex_> Frogzoo: is that a downgrade?
[06:32] <RageMax> I'm having problems getting the 5.10 installation detecting my SATA drive
[06:32] <schultzconsult> is the only way to get a cool desktop switche, with xgl or is ther theming for that one also? like bigger thumbs of the desktops?
[06:32] <RageMax> is that fixed in dapper?
[06:32] <sparkleytone> RageMax: it doesnt detect it at all?
[06:32] <RageMax> nope
[06:32] <rigonatti> Nouse: give me a ">" prompt...should I wait ?
[06:32] <Ilokaasu> RageMax: hdd or cdrom ?
[06:32] <Frogzoo> alex_: nope - it's latest - 1.3.9 is in the stock repos
[06:32] <Ron_o> nicholaspaul, make sure you aren't accessing the folder?
[06:32] <nicholaspaul> how, Ron_o ?
[06:32] <NoUse> rigonatti after you ran the command?
[06:32] <leo_> how can I specify my XkbLayout when customizing a liveCD , i tried kbd-chooser/method but it didn't work?
[06:32] <rigonatti> yep
[06:33] <NoUse> rigonatti did it output anything?
[06:33] <Ron_o> make sure nothing in your terminal is accessing it.
[06:33] <alex_> Frogzoo: Do you just happen to know if amarok will ONLY work with the xine engine?
[06:33] <rigonatti> ubuntu@ubuntu-desktop:~s fdisk -l /dev/hda'
[06:33] <Ron_o> or even restart your terminal...
[06:33] <Ilokaasu> RageMax: is it cdrom sata drive ?
[06:33] <NoUse> rigonatti you put in a quotation mark, take tha tout
[06:33] <Ron_o> !mount
[06:33] <ubotu> it has been said that mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[06:33] <jimmy_89> i am having some trouble configuring my wep settings atm
[06:33] <NoUse> rigonatti Ctrl+C and then take out the quote
[06:33] <RageMax> it's the SATA HD, the CD drive is detected
[06:33] <jimmy_89> 1) How do i enter a passphrase wep key , 2) how do you enter a wep key as key#2 ?
[06:34] <nicholaspaul> Ron_o:  oh i see. No, nothing else is accessing it. Is it an ownership issue?
[06:34] <Ron_o> dis you sudo?
[06:34] <RageMax> knoppix was able to detect it in failsafe mode
[06:34] <amortvigil> what do i do wrong: root@amortvigil:~# metacity
[06:34] <amortvigil> Window manager error: Unable to open X display  ??
[06:34] <Ilokaasu> k, i had problems with my cdrom so i had to change some options in bios so it started working
[06:34] <Ron_o> mounting is quite difficult, I must profess.
[06:34] <Ron_o> I have much trouble as well.
[06:34] <RageMax> I should probably mention this is a macbook ;)
[06:34] <RageMax> no bios
[06:34] <nicholaspaul> Ron_o:  oh ok.
[06:34] <Ron_o> let me get you some bookmarks. Wait.
[06:35] <nicholaspaul> ok
[06:35] <Ilokaasu> well then try google or maby some else can help
[06:35] <VitaminG> how is mounting difficult?
[06:35] <sparkleytone> whoa...you don't have to run package setup on first boot anymore in dapper?
[06:35] <nicholaspaul> VitaminG: can you help? I cant seem to mount an int. HD
[06:35] <RageMax> I'm downloading the dapper install disk to see if that works
[06:35] <amortvigil> Frogzoo: what do i do wrong? : root@amortvigil:~# metacity
[06:35] <amortvigil> Window manager error: Unable to open X display
[06:35] <VitaminG> what error does it give you?
[06:35] <nicholaspaul> VitaminG: when I mount -a, says the folder is busy.
[06:35] <Ron_o> sorry, I only have something for he cd-rom: http://dsl.ee.unsw.edu.au/dsl-cdrom/unsw/common/cdrom-mounting.html
[06:36] <nicholaspaul> np thx Ron_o
[06:36] <Ron_o> but that's what I have so many problms with.
[06:36] <rigonatti> NoUse: I put the /dev/hda(iuts a empty disc to backup files)  and /dev/sda ( its the SATA drive that i use)
[06:36] <keleus> sparkleytone; even better, but the repositories are hardcoded in (in synaptic, you can simply add universe/multiverse in the repositories dialog)
[06:36] <rigonatti> NoUse http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/309
[06:36] <sparkleytone> what do you mean hardcoded?
[06:36] <sparkleytone> i am changing sources.list as we speak...is that not going to change anything?
[06:36] <Ron_o> something is accessing your folder/parition. What, I can't say.
[06:36] <Yoosah> amortvigil: root can't use X, you can use xauth to make that possible
[06:36] <VitaminG> nicholaspaul: can't say i've ever seen that. Do you have the drive is listed in fstab?
[06:37] <keleus> rigonatti; /dev/sda is scsii generic
[06:37] <nicholaspaul> VitaminG: yes
[06:37] <Ron_o> for me I couldn't unmount my cdrom because in my terminal I was in the directory.
[06:37] <keleus> rigonatti; like USB flash drives. something tells me your SATA drive should show up as /dev/hda or something
[06:37] <amortvigil> Yoosah: what is the terminal code?
[06:37] <rigonatti> NoUse: hda parameter just show my empty disc.. .
[06:38] <nicholaspaul> VitaminG: isnt this just a case of editing fstab?
[06:38] <rigonatti> NoUse In true my SATA driver is the sda1 ..the partitions that i dont see in linux is sda5..sda6
[06:38] <Yoosah> amortvigil: i think it is: xauth merge /home/$NORMAL_USER/.Xauthority
[06:38] <Yoosah> amortvigil: that is not permanent, read up on xauth to give root permanent rights
[06:39] <jrattner2> where did Fu go?
[06:39] <cristos> hello
[06:39] <NoUse> rigonatti sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[06:39] <VitaminG> nicholaspaul: I'm not sure what's up.. It shouldn't be giving this error if the drive isn't mounted.
[06:39] <NoUse> rigonatti pastebin the output
[06:39] <afflux> nabend
[06:39] <cristos> Did anybody of you ever program using NCurses ?
[06:40] <rigonatti> NoUse ...is there ...http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/309
[06:40] <rigonatti> NoUse: Line 6 http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/309
[06:40] <amortvigil> Yoosah: ok termial looks like auth:
[06:40] <NoUse> rigonatti right, so you need to mount these or what?
[06:40] <amortvigil> Yoosah: whats the command?
[06:40] <Dyegov> Hi, When I start my firefox, and I try to download a plugin, it opens the window, but nothing happens, it doen't even has bottons!
[06:41] <rigonatti> I see all partitions in Windows. ..but in Linux I cant see the sda5 and sda6 .. I think its not mounted o
[06:41] <chapium> Does anyone know if I can find binary drivers for this video card: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS ?  I'm not familiar with ati, just nvidia
[06:41] <eyequeue> rigonatti, you obtain plugins via synaptic packages
[06:41] <Ron_o> Dyegov, I had the same problem with firefox, if it makes you feel any better. I never solved the issue though.
[06:42] <nicholaspaul> VitaminG:  weird. This is a fresh install of Dapper, too.
[06:42] <NoUse> rigonatti yeah you need to mount them
[06:42] <Samus_Aran> chapium: what shows up in synaptic ?
[06:42] <keleus> chapium; your in for an upleasant suprise - ATIs drivers are open, but they suck :)
[06:42] <eyequeue> rigonatti, system > administration > synaptic
[06:42] <Dyegov> So, Ron_o , how do you see websites with flash, and things like that?
[06:42] <NoUse> !tell rigonatti about fat32
[06:42] <Ron_o> I finally fixed it by d/l flash and compiled it.
[06:43] <Ron_o> from the website itself.
[06:43] <eyequeue> NoUse, where is the bot?
[06:43] <chapium> keleus: If I gain any speed at all in gnome i'll be a happy camper
[06:43] <eyequeue> !help
[06:43] <NoUse> !tell eyequeue about ubotu
[06:43] <eyequeue> NoUse, there is no bot here
[06:43] <keleus> chapium; compared to default VGA/VESA you'll be on FIRE
[06:43] <NoUse> eyequeue yeah there is
[06:43] <krazykit> eyequeue: ubotu is the bot.
[06:43] <Ron_o> there might be a repository with Flash in it. Check it out.
[06:43] <antura> is it possible to disable the expanding window border animation when launching apps from the panel?
[06:43] <Ron_o> that way it will upgrade automatically.
[06:43] <eyequeue> krazykit, and where is ubotu?
[06:43] <chapium> antura: yes
[06:43] <jneves> any suggestions on where I should start to update the kernel in install CDs?
[06:44] <NoUse> !botsnack
[06:44] <ubotu> thanks nouse :)
[06:44] <eyequeue> !help
[06:44] <NoUse> !ubotu
[06:44] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[06:44] <eyequeue> i see no ubotu here
[06:44] <Dyegov> but i need more plugins Ron_o , I wanted to see a youtube.com video, but it asks me for a plugin
[06:44] <chapium> antura: you need to use gnome-conf i think to change it
[06:44] <Ron_o> yah, I'm with you.
[06:44] <Ron_o> wait..
[06:44] <chapium> i think
[06:44] <eyequeue> hrm
[06:44] <antura> chapium: thanks, seems like i just need to google some more
[06:44] <chapium> its whatever gnome's version of regedit is
[06:44] <Yoosah> amortvigil: i'm sure it is: xauth merge /home/$NORMAL_USER/.Xauthority
[06:45] <winbond> is there some kind of cleanup command that will remove all broken packages or something like that ?
[06:45] <gharz> guys, what's the command to check the version of my gnome?
[06:46] <VitaminG> nicholaspaul: from the man pages(man 8 mount) it sounds like the "the folder is busy" means that it's mounted, which shouldn't be. It wouldn't hurt to manually unmount to be sure. If it won't unmount, we've got a really strange problem.
[06:46] <jneves> gharz: check the about window
[06:46] <gharz> ok
[06:46] <gharz> thanks
[06:47] <rabidphage> greetings
[06:47] <gharz> jneves, how about if i want to check the version of some application?
[06:47] <nicholaspaul> VitaminG:  i think i have it - i had used hdd instead of hdd1 in fstab.
[06:47] <jneves> gharz: it's in System -> About gnome
[06:47] <jneves> gharz: dpkg -l | grep <app-name>
[06:47] <jneves> gharz: the second column is the version
[06:47] <gharz> jneves, ok. thanks!!!!
[06:47] <VitaminG> nicholaspaul: that could do it.
[06:48] <rabidphage> i just patched my kernel for the first time to support lower cpu voltages using the phc patch. my question is once i commit myself how long would it take to configure the kernel??
[06:48] <rabidphage> i mean i patched the source but havent compiled yet
[06:48] <cparker> Hi, I recently upgraded from version 5.10 to 6.06 LTS. I'm now noticing that sound isn't working, whereas it was working in 5.10... I've tried changing the "Default sound card" option in System -> Preferences -> Sound, but when I click "Close", then open up the window again, the "Default sound card" is set back to my USB camera that has a microphone in it.
[06:49] <VitaminG> nicholaspaul: any luck?
[06:50] <Ron_o> Dyegov[Away] ,
[06:50] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[06:50] <Ron_o> sorry about that Dyegov[Away]  I was having problems..
[06:50] <Ron_o> see you on the next round.
[06:51] <linuxboyfriend> i am planning to make an online university. can anyone tell me that what should i learn to make the website of that univerisyt?
[06:51] <www> Hello
[06:52] <cparker> linuxboyfriend: I think you're in the wrong channel for that. You probably want a Web design/development channel.
[06:52] <www> Can someone please suggest an all purpouse media player [MP3s, WMAs, video files, dvds and maybe TV Tuner cards] ? Thanks.
[06:52] <panthar> If you are making a whole online university, I would learn to hire someone to do that for you :)
[06:52] <jneves> linuxboyfriend: moodle
[06:52] <www> happyle
[06:53] <squiddle> www  mplayer
[06:53] <Samus_Aran> dot hq
[06:54] <Samus_Aran> www: MPlayer can do everything but DVD menus, for that I use Xine
[06:54] <cparker> Okay, so would anyone be able to tell me why my Default sound card selection isn't being remembered?
[06:54] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[06:54] <Spec> www: vlc
[06:54] <alex_> this is soo lame; Only reason I isntalled ubuntu was for amarok and it's the only thing that crashes on me; lol!
[06:54] <Spec> www: VideolanClient is the winner
[06:54] <nicholaspaul> VitaminG: yup ,it seems to be ok now. Weird! Thx for trying to help
[06:54] <Aragorn_Guardian> i wanna utf-8 in isos made by mkisofs.
[06:54] <www> I'll try Mplayer and VLC, and choose which does what I need best.
[06:55] <Spec> !glade
[06:55] <ubotu> Spec: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:55] <Aragorn_Guardian> www: mplayer 8)
[06:55] <Aragorn_Guardian> the both are useful
[06:55] <_Mr_Denix_> hello guys !:)
[06:55] <rabidphage> Anybody here who has done some kernel compiling???
[06:55] <Samus_Aran> www: for MPlayer use "mplayer" for the comand line (or as a file association in a file manager) or "gmplayer" if you want a GUI front-end
[06:56] <brrrt> hi all
[06:56] <_Mr_Denix_> !seen neutrinomass
[06:56] <ubotu> neutrinomass is currently on #ubuntu (2h 10m 24s)
[06:56] <Samus_Aran> rabidphage: sure
[06:56] <www> Thanks, I'll go for Mplayer.
[06:56] <_Mr_Denix_> !seen thoreauputic
[06:56] <ubotu> thoreauputic <n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic> was last seen on IRC in channel #kubuntu, 18h 44m 45s ago, saying: ':)'.
[06:56] <brrrt> how can i make a program autostart and "respawn" automatically
[06:56] <rabidphage> Samus_Aran: how long does it take to configure the kernel
[06:56] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: I'm here :)
[06:56] <_Mr_Denix_> hello neutrinomass :)
[06:57] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Everything OK today I presume :) ?
[06:57] <Ayabara> any tips on a good torrent client besides the ubuntu default and azureus?
[06:57] <ToHellWithGA> Ayabara: ktorrent
[06:57] <ToHellWithGA> build it from source.
[06:58] <ToHellWithGA> ktorrent 2 beta is a good client
[06:58] <panthar> ubuntu default = bittorrent?
[06:58] <neutrinomass> ToHellWithGA: Why should he build from source? It's in the repos.
[06:58] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass: :)) you seem rather scared ! lol everything's ok and I'm trying to learn new stuff ! (at the moment looking for a chat client yahoo compatbile with webcam support)
[06:58] <panthar> or some tnomey thing?
[06:58] <rabidphage> Samus_Aran: Any ideas??
[06:58] <panthar> err, gnomey
[06:58] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Not scared, concerned ;)
[06:58] <Ayabara> ToHellWithGA: anytime I hear build from source I can't help but shiver ;-)
[06:58] <ToHellWithGA> neutrinomass: because 2 beta isn't in the repositories and it's a new program
[06:58] <dr-d> help! i've changed my root partition and now when i try to reboot i get a grub error 17... i think i have to register the offset of the kernel or something ..... can anyone tell me how to do it?
[06:58] <ToHellWithGA> Ayabara: install it from the repositories, remove it, and build it
[06:58] <Samus_Aran> rabidphage: depends on how many options you decide to modify
[06:58] <ToHellWithGA> then you'll have all of the dependencies left behind for sure
[06:58] <Samus_Aran> rabidphage: anywhere from a few minutes to several hours
[06:58] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass thank you for your concern ! really appreciate it
[06:59] <_Mr_Denix_> :)
[06:59] <neutrinomass> ToHellWithGA: Well, unless it's neccessary he shouldn't be compiling from source... thigs might break during upgrades etc.
[06:59] <ToHellWithGA> Ayabara: if you /msg me then i could feed you commands
[06:59] <ToHellWithGA> neutrinomass: that's what "checkinstall" is for
[06:59] <neutrinomass> ToHellWithGA: Not to mention that it's Beta software for a reason ;)
[06:59] <ToHellWithGA> it's an ugly way to make something easy to remove
[06:59] <omar> hola
[06:59] <neutrinomass> ToHellWithGA: Hm.. yes, that is an option as well ...
[06:59] <ToHellWithGA> holla omar
[06:59] <rabidphage> Samus_Aran: So is the defaults selected already?? i havent started configuring .. just done the source patching
[06:59] <ifxx> i have installed the new ubuntu6: when i would like to use a geforce 6800 gt must i install any other drivers?
[06:59] <Samus_Aran> rabidphage: it is fun to go through the entire kernel config at least once, reading the descriptions as you go, so you can be aware of what the Linux kernel is actually capable of these days ... course that's the method that will take you half a day =p
[07:00] <Samus_Aran> rabidphage: if all you want to do is change one or two options, use the distros kernel as your base
[07:00] <Samus_Aran> rabidphage: grab the kernel config out of /boot to start with in that case
[07:00] <Samus_Aran> rabidphage: copy it to your /usr/src/linux/.config
[07:00] <omar> hola tohellwithga
[07:01] <rabidphage> Samus_Aran: yup i'm using the distro base kernel. coz i'm a noob and i don't know much about acpi and stuff. the vanilla seems to be in the dark regarding such finer points ;)
[07:01] <ToHellWithGA> lol @ omar, dropping in to say hi to a stranger then leaving
[07:01] <squiddle> rabidphage  it is not in the dark, you are and it is shining just too bright, but hope is there cause your eyes will adapt :)
[07:01] <Samus_Aran> ifxx: if you don't need any hardware accelleration, then use the "nv" driver that Ubuntu/Xorg defaults to.  if you want hardware accelleration (OpenGL games and apps) then install the nVIDIA binary drivers, available through synaptic (though you may need to add the universe or multiverse repositories, not sure)
[07:02] <rabidphage> squiddle: hi there.. true...:(
[07:02] <_absolution_> how do you change/install themes?
[07:02] <nicholaspaul> I just copied over my old Home folder and now Firefox and Synaptic wont run. Did i mess up ??!
[07:02] <_absolution_> and the Login manager?
[07:02] <dionysos> could be
[07:03] <NoUse> !tell _absolution_ about themes
[07:03] <brrrt> how can i make a program to restart automatically like metacity?
[07:03] <nicholaspaul> _absolution_: System / Preferences / theme
[07:03] <rabidphage> squiddle: however i've read somewhere the battery status don't work with the vanilla kernel
[07:04] <nicholaspaul> so how did i mess up?!
[07:04] <squiddle> rabidphage  yeah sometimes you need some patches :)
[07:04] <Samus_Aran> brrrt: I do something similar with ICE Window Manager, I just have a wrapper script called lock-icewm and it keeps reloading my icewm after it closes or crashes (until I remove the lockfile in /tmp).  it's just a Bash script that keeps running it in a loop
[07:04] <squiddle> nicholaspaul  if it worked before and now it stopped, than most likely somehting got wrong. start with using your working home and copy your backup one folder after another
[07:05] <nicholaspaul> squiddle: ok, that makes sense. tanks.
[07:05] <Samus_Aran> brrrt: such as this: while [ -e "$Lockfile" ] ; do icewm; sleep 1s; done
[07:05] <lupz> hello, how i can fully utilize cpu's during compilation when i've multiple processors installed ?
[07:06] <squiddle> lupz  make -J <yount of processors +1>
[07:06] <ToHellWithGA> is there an equivalent to DOS .bat files in linux?
[07:07] <rabidphage> Samus_Aran: so does that mean in order to get the defaults, it is mandatory to copy the old .config from /boot to /usr/src/linux/.config???
[07:07] <lupz> squiddle, thanks :)
[07:07] <Arabian> hm, what is the differency between ubuntu and ubuntu server, I going to use a computer as small headless fileserver and some other simple stuff, but I am a newbie, should I go for server edition?
[07:07] <Arabian> I am
[07:07] <xcoyote> question: how can i restart my eth0 interface /etc/init.d/??
[07:08] <dionysos> Arabian: the server doesn't have x window manger (only command line)
[07:08] <Arbiter> ifup\ifdown
[07:08] <Meshezabeel> anyone know how I can recover files from a corrupt NTFS partition that both linux and windows refuse to mount. I can recover them with windows recovery programs, but would like to learn how to do it in linux. Also, I want to recover the files without bothering about restoring the partition itself. Thanks.
[07:08] <Arabian> dionysos: thanks, than that passes... going for the desktop
[07:08] <Meshezabeel> ToHellWithGA, not sure, but you mean a .sh file?
[07:08] <Arabian> then
[07:08] <dionysos> lol :p
[07:08] <nicholaspaul> squiddle: prob is, i dont have my 'old' Home (!) and Firefox wont run either...
[07:08] <nicholaspaul> Guess I'm reinstalling!!
[07:09] <Samus_Aran> rabidphage: unless Ubuntu placed it there for you already, yes
[07:09] <ToHellWithGA> Meshezabeel: is that what it would be?
[07:09] <squiddle> nicholaspaul  just start with an empty home
[07:09] <ToHellWithGA> i've never used a .sh file
[07:09] <ToHellWithGA> (except in building i guess)
[07:09] <Samus_Aran> rabidphage: I am new to Ubuntu, so I am not sure of the specific method of custom compile here
[07:10] <nicholaspaul> squiddle: ok.
[07:10] <Arabian> nice downloading speed 800k down
[07:10] <afflux> ToHellWithGA, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_script
[07:10] <Samus_Aran> rabidphage: the best method would be to build a kernel package, though.  that way synaptic (or whatever package manager you use) would show your custom kernel as installed
[07:10] <winbond> is there some kind of cleanup command that will remove all broken packages or something like that ?
[07:10] <rabidphage> Samus_Aran: Thanks a lot mate..
[07:10] <ToHellWithGA> thanks afflux and Meshezabeel
[07:10] <fcalise> Does anyone have Eterm working with artwiz fonts?  I'm using the -F parameter and it doesn't seem to be taking effect.
[07:10] <nicholaspaul> squiddle: should i logout/in before trying anything, like running firefox (which doesnt work still!)?
[07:11] <Samus_Aran> ToHellWithGA: an .sh file is a set of Bash or Unix SH commands.  it just runs them from top to bottom, as if you had typed them into the terminal.
[07:11] <Samus_Aran> rabidphage: there will surely be a page on the Wiki explaining the proper way to configure and compile a custom kernel
[07:11] <Samus_Aran> rabidphage: I strongly recommend doing a search there
[07:12] <ToHellWithGA> Samus_Aran: thanks as well.  do you know if it will pause for input (like if i were to include a sudo command and not be within the password keeping time window)
[07:12] <rabidphage> squiddle: could you help me with the kernel compilation?? the question is do i have to copy /boot/.config to /usr/src/linux to get the defaults or will there be any indication during the boot process?
[07:12] <rabidphage> squiddle: scratch boot process to configuration process
[07:12] <Samus_Aran> ToHellWithGA: do you mean writing your own .sh and calling sudo from it ?
[07:13] <ToHellWithGA> Samus_Aran: mhmm
[07:13] <squiddle> rabidphage  yes, take the .config from /boot/
[07:13] <ToHellWithGA> exactly that
[07:13] <Samus_Aran> ToHellWithGA: when you run the .sh file, it will be just like you are typing in the commands one after another in Bash.  it will wait for one command to finish before running the next one
[07:13] <rabidphage> Samus_Aran: i've been looking around. no luck so far..
[07:13] <ToHellWithGA> that's great Samus_Aran.  thanks
[07:13] <Gradius9> hm, another thing...should I take xubuntu if I just want to use the computer as a server, I am not going to use it for anything else anyways
[07:14] <apokryphos> Gradius9: the ubuntu server install is preferable
[07:14] <NoUse> Gradius9 you can get the server install CD
[07:14] <Samus_Aran> ToHellWithGA: also note that in UNIX file extensions mean very little.  you don't need to name your scripts .sh, it can be any name.  just set the file "executable", which tells the system it is meant to be run: chmod a+x filename (or right-click on it and go to properties)
[07:14] <Gradius9> apokryphos: I am a newbie with linux so I need that windows interface
[07:14] <apokryphos> Gradius9: ok, sure; xubuntu will do the job
[07:15] <fcalise> Does anyone have Eterm working with artwiz fonts?  I'm using the -F parameter and it doesn't seem to be taking effect.
[07:15] <frogman> I'm mounting an smb share via Places -> Connect to Server and every time I save a file the permissions get reset to 764.  what gives?
[07:15] <Samus_Aran> rabidphage: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelBuildpackageDetailedHowto
[07:15] <Gradius9> apokryphos: so you recommend it over the other linux because it uses fewer resources?
[07:15] <Samus_Aran> rabidphage: there you go: "How-to create a custom Ubuntu Linux kernel package"
[07:15] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass : you're ready for another round ? :))
[07:16] <andre> i can't get apache2 to ru, and there is no error message!
[07:16] <Meshezabeel> ToHellWithGA, follow the Unix Shell Scripting Tutorial at the bottom of the wikipedia link, it will give you what you need
[07:16] <apokryphos> Gradius9: yes
[07:16] <Meshezabeel> ToHellWithGA, user input examples, etc
[07:16] <Samus_Aran> ToHellWithGA: after you set your script as executable, you should stick it in one of the directories in your $PATH if you want to be able to run it from anywhere
[07:17] <Ayabara> running ./configure when installing ktorrent I get the following : checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[07:17] <Gradius9> apokryphos: the only difference is the lighter window manager and fewer desktop apps, the rest is the same?
[07:17] <Ayabara> any ideas?
[07:17] <ToHellWithGA> it's actually just gonna be a simple script to auto-download and install something
[07:17] <Samus_Aran> ToHellWithGA: or else you need to specify what directory it is in, each time you run the command, for example: /home/joe/scripts/myscript.sh
[07:17] <apokryphos> Gradius9: correct, the base is the same
[07:17] <danp> is there documentation somewhere on what kinds of special installs the "alternate install CD" can do?
[07:17] <Gradius9> apokryphos: ok many questions here :), but it has the same samba / vnc / ssh / drivers etc.?
[07:17] <Samus_Aran> ToHellWithGA: simple scripts are the way it all starts  =)  pretty soon you'll realise it is very easy to do useful and time-saving things without much in a script
[07:18] <apokryphos> Gradius9: I'd certainly presume so. If not, it's always very easy to get.
[07:18] <mad_phoenix> so i un-checked "wireless" in the networkmanager applet menu, and now it isn't in my menu any more to re-enable...how can I get it back?
[07:18] <andre> I can use sudo apachectl start but the init script doesn't work
[07:18] <Samus_Aran> ToHellWithGA: and if you keep doing little scripts here and there, after a few years you'll realise you can do almost anything with a console script, and you'll be annoyed every time you use a Windows system and don't have your Bash handy =p
[07:18] <_Mr_Denix_> does synaptic open tar.bz2   ?
[07:18] <ToHellWithGA> Samus_Aran and Meshezabeel, thanks again.
[07:18] <Samus_Aran> ToHellWithGA: welcome
[07:19] <Juhaz> is networkmanager broken in dapper?
[07:19] <fcalise> _Mr_Denix_ do 'man tar' in a terminal
[07:19] <ToHellWithGA> on another note, how can i get the terminal to automagically add "sudo" to commands which need sudo?
[07:19] <fcalise> Does anyone have Eterm working with artwiz fonts?  I'm using the -F parameter and it doesn't seem to be taking effect.
[07:19] <_Mr_Denix_> fcalise thanks
[07:19] <panthar> ToHellWithGA, use "alias"
[07:19] <ToHellWithGA> alias would make it so i could type "apt-get blah blah" and the shell would think it received "sudo apt-get"?
[07:19] <fcalise> _Mr_Denix_, I think you can do tar -jxvf file.tar.bz2
[07:19] <panthar> ToHellWithGA, Yes
[07:20] <rabidphage> Samus_Aran: update xconfig running and man its amazing...... wow.........
[07:20] <ToHellWithGA> cool.  thanks panthar
[07:20] <panthar> yw
[07:20] <Samus_Aran> ToHellWithGA: for example: alias synaptic='sudo synaptic'
[07:20] <Hypoglybetic> hello room!
[07:20] <ToHellWithGA> are aliases for a session or stored indefinitely?
[07:20] <Samus_Aran> ToHellWithGA: you will need to stick that into your ~/.bash_login or ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc for it to be remembered
[07:20] <ToHellWithGA> hello Hypoglybetic?
[07:20] <ToHellWithGA> wow.  you type fast responses
[07:20] <_Mr_Denix_> fcalise working on it
[07:21] <Tobberoth> am I the only one who can't get form 2 of ln to work?
[07:21] <Hypoglybetic> uhm. . whats w/ the ?
[07:21] <Tobberoth> it should be "ln [target] "
[07:21] <fcalise> ln source target ?
[07:21] <Tobberoth> hmm..
[07:21] <_Mr_Denix_> fcalise mind if we prv ?
[07:21] <Tobberoth> doesn't say it need source, i thought target was the source
[07:21] <Tobberoth> so to speak
[07:21] <Samus_Aran> I just thought of a neat idea, you could put this in your ~/.bash_logout to save aliases: alias > ~/aliases
[07:21] <fcalise> _Mr_Denix_, sure go ahead
[07:22] <Samus_Aran> and then in your ~/.bashrc have: source ~/aliases
[07:22] <joemauch> is setting up gaim-2-beta easy on dapper? can someone point me to some help doing it?
[07:22] <antura> ///
[07:22] <Samus_Aran> to load them
[07:22] <Hypoglybetic> Q: Is BootCamp the proper program to use to boot ubuntu, OS X, and XP/Vista on a PC? Or should I use BootMagic ?
[07:22] <Sp4rKy> does anyone could help me with a Vimicro webcam ?
[07:22] <fcalise> joemauch, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133179
[07:22] <xcoyote> question: how to add a service at boot time ?
[07:22] <Frogzoo> Samus_Aran: ~/.bash_aliases
[07:23] <Samus_Aran> Tobberoth: ln uses the same syntax as cp or mv: ln <one or more files to link-copy> <where the link will be put>
[07:23] <panthar> answer: sysv init system
[07:23] <panthar> *hic*
[07:23] <gil> hi
[07:23] <Tobberoth> hmm.. guess I missunderstood the manual for ln then
[07:23] <Samus_Aran> Frogzoo: is that just a prefered filename, or is that automatically read by Bash ?
[07:23] <zenithsglint> hey guys what is the best program for keeping track of holidays birthdays daily tasks meetings etc? for gnome?
[07:23] <panthar> zenithsglint, Evolution
[07:23] <Samus_Aran> Tobberoth: ln can automatically link to the present directory if you only put a <source file>
[07:23] <joemauch> fcalise, thanks
[07:23] <Tobberoth> form 2 seemed like "ln file12" would put a link to file12 in the directory of file12
[07:23] <Samus_Aran> Tobberoth: but I find that method more confusing
[07:23] <gil> when i can connect to my computer at home from the office using XP do i have to use VNC viewer....
[07:23] <fcalise> joemauch, you're welcoe
[07:24] <Frogzoo> Samus_Aran: it's preferred - see ~/.bashrc
[07:24] <zenithsglint> does Evolution work best?... no third party better?
[07:24] <gil> can i not use the Remote Desktop in XP to connect to my kubuntu at home
[07:24] <fcalise> zenithsglint, you could use thunderbird probably
[07:24] <mad_phoenix> so does anybody know how to re-enable wireless in networkmanager?
[07:24] <Frogzoo> zenithsglint: evolution is best - it's not immediately apparent how well integrated evolution is with the rest of gnome, but it is
[07:24] <Samus_Aran> Frogzoo: I have a custom .bashrc, I presume Ubuntu sources ~/.bash_aliases automatically with a stock home dir ?
[07:24] <_Mr_Denix_> fcalise have you gotten my prv  ?
[07:24] <ech0> where are linux header files located? anyone know?
[07:25] <Frogzoo> Samus_Aran: got it
[07:25] <Samus_Aran> gil: I think it only works the other way, X -> Win
[07:25] <ech0> they are included in build-essentials correct
[07:25] <mad_phoenix> ech0: in /usr/src, but you have to install them
[07:25] <ech0> mad_phoenix: what package?
[07:25] <zenithsglint> Ok, I will check it out, thank you guys.
[07:25] <Samus_Aran> gil: there are other remote desktop apps, though, such as TightVNC
[07:25] <gnosis-wi> Question: when I use the GUI to "connect to server" (a samba share on another linux box), the share is mounted and appears as an icon on my desktop.  Where is this mounted *really*?
[07:25] <mad_phoenix> lemme check
[07:25] <Samus_Aran> gil: or x2vnc I think if you want to use your currently running desktop
[07:25] <blenda> i recently upgraded from breezy to dapper and therefore gossip 0.9 -> 0.10.2. now gossip won't find my preferences though they are stored in ~/.gnome2/Gossip/. why is that?
[07:26] <mad_phoenix> kernel-headers-<kernel version>
[07:26] <ech0> mad_phoenix: thank you
[07:26] <panthar> gil, look into FreeNX also - it's very fast.  I notice almost no lag connecting to my machine at home over a 512k uplink
[07:26] <mad_phoenix> np
[07:26] <gil> i am at an office now that does not want me to install any software...
[07:27] <gil> i want to use the local Remote Desktop....
[07:27] <gil> MS remote desktop
[07:27] <Samus_Aran> panthar: I tried to get NX server running on my last distro, and it was a royal pain.  does Ubuntu come with premade packages for it ?
[07:27] <gil> will that not connect at all to a linux machine
[07:27] <gil> ?
[07:27] <panthar> Not in itself, but someone made a nice package for it - 1 sec...
[07:28] <Samus_Aran> gil: last time I checked, it will not.  you can check the software page of the app to find out, though
[07:28] <cparker> How do I manually configure the soundcard? I'm currently affected by bug #44101, so I can't use gnome-sound-properties.
[07:28] <_azrael> Is there any way to have apt-get forgo installing a single dependency? I'm attempting to install e17, and the libc6 version I need _thinks_ it needs tzdata, but locales should satisfy this. I would just let tzdata install, but apt doesn't like that for fear it will break locales. Advice?
[07:28] <panthar> gil, I don't know of a remote desktop server for Linux (Windows Remote Desktop protocol)
[07:28] <gil> ok!
[07:28] <cparker> gil: Why not use VNC? ;)
[07:29] <_azrael> However, there are VNC viewers that work in web-based Java.
[07:29] <panthar> Samus_Aran, Take a look at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[07:29] <gil> oh i have used VNC many times
[07:29] <dionysos> just install vncserver