[01:09] <diddledan> I want a Lenovo thinkpad so I can rub my nipple in public
[01:09] <diddledan> seriously, what's with those things anyway?
[01:12] <m0nkey_> I have a HP nipple
[01:12] <m0nkey_> some HP EliteBook 820 i think
[01:12] <diddledan> do you fondle it in public places?
[01:13] <m0nkey_> all the time at the officde
[01:13] <diddledan> \o/
[01:15] <m0nkey_> i opened an interesting FreeNAS bug.. https://bugs.freenas.org/issues/15274#change-76677
[01:18] <gebbione> if doing . /etc/enviornment the env variables are not reloading when i run env
[01:18] <gebbione> any reasons?
[02:01] <diddledan> ooh, one of my raspis running win10 just reboobed for an update
[02:06] <daftykins> perhaps it'll improve mammary management
[02:08] <daftykins> speaking of, the login on here is still claiming i need to reboot
[02:14] <diddledan> http://www.wsj.com/articles/if-your-teacher-sounds-like-a-robot-you-might-be-on-to-something-1462546621
[04:56] <MooDoo> morning all
[05:25] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[05:26]  * zmoylan-pi hands around the crunchies
[05:49] <MooDoo> :) yum
[06:25] <knightwise> morning
[06:27] <MooDoo> morning chap :)
[06:28] <knightwise> hey MooDoo , how are you doing today
[06:29] <MooDoo> knightwise: now the internet is backup at work, I can relax a little
[07:19] <knightwise>  Enjoying my friday her e:)
[07:26] <MooDoo> knightwise: where are you? at work or on hols?
[07:32] <knightwise> at work :)
[07:33] <knightwise> i'm a freelancer .. hols are rare
[07:48] <popey> morning
[07:51] <knightwise> morning popey
[07:52] <Switches> Morning all
[07:53] <knightwise> hey Switches
[07:55] <Switches> Heya knightwise
[08:05] <davmor2> Morning all from the caravan :)
[08:06] <Switches> Heya davmor2
[08:06] <knightwise> davmor2: you lucky B¨sterd
[08:07] <davmor2> knightwise: it is a caravan in England I see grey mostly :)  today is a bit brighter :)
[08:07]  * popey heads to the airport
[08:07] <popey> ttfn
[08:07] <davmor2> But I still see lots of grey
[08:07] <davmor2> popey: again
[08:07] <zmoylan-pi> hope you brought the travel scrabble and the scrabble
[08:09] <zmoylan-pi> and don't forget to do riverdance in the caravan... :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKovBepY7v0
[08:09] <Switches> Cya popey
[08:09] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: I have 20Mb down and 10Mb up why would I have scrabble
[08:10] <zmoylan-pi> it's obviously not raining enough if you still have that much data :-)
[08:10] <Switches> rofl
[08:13] <knightwise> * Giggles *
[08:13] <knightwise> hilarious
[08:51] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Friday the 13th, and happy Blame Someone Else Day! 😃
[08:53] <knightwise> Its your fault its friday the 13th JamesTait
[08:53] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkBS4zUjJZo
[08:54] <Switches> lol heya JamesTait
[08:54] <JamesTait> Nope. Totally davmor2's fault.
[08:54] <JamesTait> 👋 Switches
[08:55] <davmor2> JamesTait: the music might be but it is entirely your fault as I choose it based on your days :P
[09:01] <knightwise> hmmm.. been working on the mac for the last couple of days at work , and i gotta say , i miss my linux machine
[09:02] <zmoylan-pi> little things irking you?
[09:02] <knightwise> yeah ,
[09:02] <knightwise> OSX is like a fancy designer shirt that is a liiiitle too tight
[09:10] <brobostigon> night boys and girls.
[09:10] <knightwise> hey brobostigon
[09:11] <brobostigon> morning everyone and knightwise
[09:14] <knightwise> thanx for seperating me from everyone else brobostigon
[09:14] <knightwise> I always knew i was special :)
[09:17] <brobostigon> :)
[09:17] <knightwise>  *Greetings Humans*
[09:17] <knightwise> (and brobostigon )
[09:17] <brobostigon> :)
[09:24] <SuperMatt> Human? Who are you calling a human?
[09:25] <SuperMatt> I identify and a caterpillar
[09:25] <SuperMatt> (which explains why I'm always hungry)
[09:30] <zmoylan-pi> greetings carbon based lifeforms \o/
[09:30] <SuperMatt> better
[09:32] <zmoylan-pi> i enjoyed this too much... :-) https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/sht-happens-sometimes-2.gif
[09:34]  * brobostigon is a wizard , :)
[09:34] <SuperMatt> yer a wizard, Harry?
[09:36] <brobostigon> no, not a potter wizard, a D&D wizard.
[09:45]  * zmoylan-pi is a half-orc in one game and human mercenary in another
[09:45] <brobostigon> :)
[09:46] <SuperMatt> I need to play more D&D
[09:46]  * brobostigon normally plays a human wizard, as he likes magic, :)
[09:46] <zmoylan-pi> you do, it's great fun
[09:46] <SuperMatt> not enough of my friends are interested though, so it's not an easy thing to get together
[09:47] <zmoylan-pi> i play as fighters as i like annoying the dm by not behaving to type... my half orc barbarian is a peace loving hippy
[09:47] <SuperMatt> though I understand that google hangouts is quite popular for remote d&d these days
[09:48] <foobarry> didn't d&d get replaced by skyrim?
[09:48] <zmoylan-pi> there are entire services devoted to playing online these days
[09:49] <zmoylan-pi> d&d will exist long after every game you play on a computer is dead and gone
[09:49] <brobostigon> i prefer to play in person, playing online is just too disconnected for me.
[09:50] <SuperMatt> I've got a lovely enough kitchen with a big enough table that I could host
[09:50] <SuperMatt> though I'm likely to host a poker game first
[09:50] <SuperMatt> oooh, that's what I should do for my birthday
[09:50] <Switches> Seems the steam forums are at it again with the Doom release.. all the crap about it not being on Linux lol
[09:52] <SuperMatt> I imagine it will come to linux later
[09:52] <brobostigon> i am in progress designing part 2 of the quest th group i play with started 5 weeks ago.
[09:52] <Switches> The best part of those arguments is when they bring the oh so important "usage" links into it... I sit and think yeah great, your using a usage graph on something that is pretty much untracable lol
[09:52] <SuperMatt> but the user reviews all seem pretty good
[09:52] <Switches> They are the game looks great, but it being Zenimax and Bethesda makes me think Linux prob wont see it
[09:52] <SuperMatt> steam's linux usage fluctuates around the 1% mark
[09:53] <zmoylan-pi> tabletop d&d with a dm who has all the figures... in multiples... https://twitter.com/angryearthling/status/711298949517221888/photo/1 :-D
[09:53] <SuperMatt> having said that, I'm not sure if it counts my pc twice, for having linux and windows
[09:53] <Switches> Yeah and Steam usage surveys don't pop up for most people :p
[09:54] <Switches> Actually it does, Once for Windows, Once for Linux (if you get the surveys in both ofcourse)
[09:54] <Switches> Also the people using steam in wine are counted as Windows as its the Windows client...
[09:55] <brobostigon> zmoylan-pi: :)
[09:55] <Switches> just one of them things I guess, I won't buy it till it's on Linux, same as I wont by Overwatch.. But the new UT ohhh im def buying that UE4 on linux is really nice
[09:56] <Switches> buy*
[09:56] <SuperMatt> the new UT is free, and will always be free
[09:57] <Switches> The one they were saying about on a UE stream sounded like it was being sold... if it's free that makes it even more a must have.
[09:58] <SuperMatt> https://www.epicgames.com/unrealtournament/ it's definitely free now though
[09:59] <Switches> Ohh the Alpha is yeah, but if you click the download there isn't one for Linux.. yet
[10:00] <SuperMatt> sure, but apparently it does work
[10:00] <SuperMatt> if you're willing to get your hands dirty
[10:00] <Switches> Hmm have to look on the dev site later, there may be a script like they did with the old UTs
[10:01] <SuperMatt> let me know if you find something
[10:01] <SuperMatt> I haven't been bothered to find out how to get it working in linux cos I have windows anyway
[10:01] <Switches> Will do, just reading the community posts about it at the mo
[10:04] <Switches> https://www.epicgames.com/unrealtournament/forums/showthread.php?19159-How-do-I-install-UT4-on-LInux
[10:04] <Switches> How to do it is in the community... downloading now :p
[10:06] <SuperMatt> thank you
[10:07] <Switches> Didn't think of looking in the community forums.. stupid of me, was looking in the dev forums as the engine download stuff is there >.<
[10:08] <SuperMatt> I've got it saved in my bookmarks, so if I have some time this weekend after playing Doom, I might check it out
[10:08] <Switches> :)
[10:09] <Switches> Don't have Windows around apart from my phone... So unfortunatly no doom for me
[10:44] <MooDoo> oh yeah forgot doom was being released today....
[10:44] <MooDoo> friday 13th as well
[10:44] <MooDoo> code version 666?
[10:47] <SuperMatt> hurrr
[10:47] <SuperMatt> I'm hoping I'll get to blast some imps tonight
[10:47] <Switches> Would be good if it was, but I doubt the code version will be 666
[10:47] <SuperMatt> I've got an opportunity to skip home early because there's a company meeting tonight, but I'm not my notice period, so none of this bothers me
[10:49] <Switches> Well getting off work early is always a good thing.. unless you're self employed..
[11:19] <Myrtti> czajkowski: ping
[11:51] <czajkowski> Myrtti: pong
[12:45] <diddledan> marnin
[13:13] <SuperMatt> yo
[14:02] <diddledan> Linux is flippin' weird: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPbAXKMCDkY
[14:02] <diddledan> love Bryan's presentations
[14:13] <Switches> Yeah watched that a while ago. The "Cow Milker" is the best :p
[14:48] <foobarry> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeV0pLRyM7o
[15:09] <diddledan> "there are maybe 50 people in the world that understand selinux policies" http://www.serverwatch.com/server-news/selinux-vs-systemd-whats-safer-for-linux-servers.html
[15:16] <davmor2> diddledan: and most of those work for the nsa and we know how well we can trust them with our secrets right
[15:29] <zmoylan-pi> they'll find *AFTER* the event what you were planning, so yes...
[15:32] <zmoylan-pi> and then add death by pineapples to their watchword list... :-P
[16:16] <diddledan> googacle trial is nuts
[16:16] <zmoylan-pi> googacle... is that we're calling it then?
[16:16] <diddledan> aye
[16:16]  * zmoylan-pi scribbles note in personal database...
[16:19] <davmor2> I wonder why people are trying to compare selinux and systemd, one is an init system and other a security system that the init system uses maybe I'm missing the point :D
[16:20] <zmoylan-pi> if it sparks an argument then it's work is done... :-P
[16:20] <diddledan> davmor2: systemd doesn't use selinux at all. they have similarities in process isolation, where systemd does it in a more portable anner
[16:20] <diddledan> manner
[16:22] <davmor2> fair enough
[16:27] <diddledan> at the end-of-the-day selinux is a patch to the kernel where the tech that systemd uses is native
[16:27] <diddledan> the same tech behind things like docker
[16:30] <davmor2> and lxd
[16:31] <davmor2> diddledan: my point though remain they are not mutually exclusive systemd has plugins for both selinux and apparmor
[16:33] <diddledan> yup, I think the security patches of either selinux or apparmor are good things to continue using to add an extra layer
[16:34] <diddledan> really the tech that systemd, docker et al are using for isolation aren't actually security-boundaries. they're more just logical groups which can be isolated but aren't necessarily so. the selinux or apparmor can add DACs which prohibit breaking out
[16:37] <davmor2> diddledan: indeed which is what lxd/lxc does again either with selinux or apparmor
[20:18] <sebsebseb> hi
[20:22] <Switches> heya
[20:22] <sebsebseb> Switches: hi
[21:16] <gebbione> hi folks, i cannot get my ethernet started on my desktop. The adapter light is off and trying to run network restart won't work. I have also started nm-applet but the network icon is also gone and it fails starting
[21:16] <daftykins> version?
[21:17] <daftykins> what changed since it last worked?
[21:18] <diddledan> have you tried rebooting?
[21:18]  * daftykins chases diddledan with a Doom chainsaw
[21:18] <diddledan> network-manager is a pain in that once it’s stopped working properly only a full reboot will fix it :-(
[21:18] <daftykins> (new one came out today :O )
[21:19] <diddledan> daftykins: it had better be shareware
[21:19] <daftykins> my fellow volunteers tell me it has been broken - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1434986
[21:19] <m6lpi> Oops
[21:22] <daftykins> gebbione: ...?
[21:23] <diddledan> I miss ifup and ifdown-based network management
[21:24] <daftykins> i still purge resolvconf and hardcode config on servers :>
[21:24] <diddledan> I get that desktops like point-n-click windows-style interfaces but the /etc/network/interfaces file was much easier
[21:24] <daftykins> have to reboot now though, can't just restart the service anymore
[21:25] <diddledan> yeah, `service networking restart` was easy and it seems to me they’ve broken it by mandating network manager
[21:26] <gebbione> daftykins, didn't see the reply until now
[21:26] <gebbione> i think it was the last update
[21:27] <gebbione> i installed it yesterday night
[21:27] <gebbione> i m going through http://askubuntu.com/questions/771627/14-04-network-manager-stopped-working/771841#771841 now
[21:27] <daftykins> and version?
[21:27] <gebbione> 14-04
[21:27] <daftykins> i also had someone tell me of:
[21:27] <daftykins> http://askubuntu.com/questions/771627/14-04-network-manager-stopped-working/771841#771841 ; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1539634
[21:28] <daftykins> so could be a recovery mode update perhaps
[21:28] <gebbione> i entered recovery mode with no networking i think
[21:28] <gebbione> i might need to reboot
[21:28] <daftykins> is it a desktop?
[21:28] <daftykins> you could bring things up manually to update
[21:29] <daftykins> if connected to a router/switch with a cable it wouldn't be too much effort
[21:29] <gebbione> sudo apt-get update?
[21:29] <gebbione> well it is root already
[21:29] <daftykins> well it depends if your connection is up
[21:30] <diddledan> you’re in recovery mode and wondering why you don’t have normal functionality?
[21:30] <gebbione> no it is not
[21:30] <daftykins> ping your router first maybe, then google.co.uk as a test
[21:30] <daftykins> ok, identify your interface name via "ifconfig -a" - you might see eth0 or it could be a new funky name depending on your setup
[21:30] <diddledan> hint: recovery mode is limited functionality
[21:30] <gebbione> update failed to resolve repos
[21:30] <diddledan> it’s designed to be limited
[21:31] <diddledan> expecting unlimited is stupid
[21:31] <gebbione> i ll restart with networking enabled, should work right?
[21:32] <daftykins> oh is that a choice that comes up? wasn't aware, never really used recovery
[21:33] <diddledan> ignore me, I’ll leave you to it
[21:35] <daftykins> nah it's all good, i don't really follow the present modes limitations
[22:21] <diddledan> this is hilarious: http://www.callmyadagency.com/page4.html
[22:21] <diddledan> “don’t use other designers, because we use all of our brains"
[22:21] <daftykins> dingo dunny paper ;D
[22:22] <diddledan> read the text. it’s nuts.
[22:22] <daftykins> but it's the weekend! :)
[22:22] <daftykins> i've been invited to a small Eurovision watching gathering tomorrow night
[23:03] <diddledan> ok. somehow victoria’s secret think I’ve ordered something from them using an email account I rarely touch
[23:03] <diddledan> and yes, it really is the real victoria’s secret and not a phish
[23:05] <diddledan> apparently I bought this: https://www.victoriassecret.com/bras/shop-all-bras/cotton-bra-top-pink?ProductID=288529&CatalogueType=OLS
[23:09] <daftykins> hmm i don't think much of your taste
[23:09] <daftykins> have i told you before about all the people in the US that sign up to things with my personal gmail?
[23:09] <diddledan> I also have a “victoria’s secret card"
[23:10] <daftykins> quite honestly the only way to get rid of one was to do a password reset on the account, email them asking to cancel the order... then sit back and watch
[23:10] <daftykins> when i got the support guys email saying "here's the time you asked us to cancel your order" with my cancel copied in, i lul'd
[23:11] <daftykins> Deborah kins suffered my wrath that day
[23:11] <diddledan> someone signed-up to match.com using my email a while back
[23:11] <daftykins> i hope they described you well :D
[23:11] <diddledan> no. they really didn’t. he was a weedy child
[23:11] <daftykins> aww
[23:12] <daftykins> well they need love too, sir
[23:12] <popey> Evening!
[23:12] <diddledan> ‘owdo
[23:13] <diddledan> oh, and this is a good one from a few days ago: I invited myself to test my ios app, apparently
[23:14] <diddledan> “From: Daniel Llewellyn’s Projects (via Crashlytics)” from my email to my email “You’ve been invited to test NoCarrotFitness"
[23:15] <diddledan> oh no, not quite from my email - from a similar email @gmail to my icloud email
[23:15] <diddledan> someone using the gmail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:16] <diddledan> my icloud is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:16] <diddledan> (now watch as bots harvest that from the logs archive and spam me sideways)
[23:16] <daftykins> and now they're harvestable from the public logs ;D
[23:16] <daftykins> yes XD
[23:16] <diddledan> great minds...
[23:17] <daftykins> ...look for dessert
[23:17] <daftykins> mines a chocolate chip flapjack
[23:17] <diddledan> mmmm. dessert
[23:21] <daftykins> you knows it
[23:21] <daftykins> the moment i saw half price ice cream on the local supermarket deal mailer too, oof
[23:21] <daftykins> my gut had no chance
[23:22] <diddledan> damn
[23:22] <diddledan> I hate when they force me to buy bargain glutenous food
[23:23] <diddledan> it’s unfair to make stuff I love cheap


[00:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: phosh [arm64] (kinetic-proposed/universe) [0.20.0-2] (no packageset)
[00:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2-signed [sync] (jammy-proposed) [1.182~22.04.1]
[00:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: phosh [riscv64] (kinetic-proposed/universe) [0.20.0-2] (no packageset)
[01:02] <jbicha> vorlon: libgovirt currently only builds on some arches 🤷
[01:04] <jbicha> there's a second blocker bug if you want to let it into kinetic anyway
[01:07] <jbicha> I'm working on fixing gnome-shell-extension-gsconnect so no need to remove it fully from kinetic yet
[01:07] <jbicha> (but I'm ok either way with libgovirt)
[02:22] <vorlon> jbicha: well, built on some arches is not a regression vs built on no arches
[02:22] <vorlon> which is, after all, the consequence of it having been removed from the release pocket
[06:27] <rs2009> vorlon and tsimonq2: I actually get the same build error locally, just with archive.ubuntu.com instead of ftpmaster.internal, and looks the contents of /etc/resolv.conf are empty after running 'apt install' the first time
[06:27] <rs2009> s/looks/looks like/g
[07:07] <rs2009> hey sil2100
[07:32] <rs2009> hey sil2100, thanks for your vote :) also, was wondering if it would be possible to update https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/ubuntu-unity.kinetic/live (made some changes in https://code.launchpad.net/~unity7maintainers/ubuntu-seeds/+git/ubuntu-unity just now)
[07:33] <rs2009> ^ sil2100 and vorlon
[07:40] <aciba> sil2100: if you have SRU vanguard review time, cloud-init has an unapproved upload 22.3-13 from SRU to Bionic, Focal and Jammy. We've sync'd changes for two bug fixes found and fixed before our previous 22.3.-3 SRU unapproved upload was accepted https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1987318, thanks!
[07:45] <sil2100> rs2009: I'm a bit occupied with 20.04.5, but I should have more time next week if anything :)
[07:45] <sil2100> aciba: hey! Sure o/
[07:46] <rs2009> also, it looks like lb's using syslinux as the bootloader if BINARYFORMAT=iso, and that seems to result in this error: "E: /usr/share/syslinux/themes/ubuntu-oneiric - no such directory."
[07:47] <rs2009> ah sil2100, completely forgot about 20.04.5 :facepalm: I'll start working on it too now
[07:48] <sil2100> Wimpy: hey hey Martin! I still see no test results for Ubuntu Mate for .5, are there some Mate people around to do some iso-testing? Thanks! :)
[07:48] <rs2009> I've started our 20.04.5 ISO build
[07:51] <sil2100> \o/
[08:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gcc-10 [sync] (jammy-proposed) [10.4.0-4ubuntu1~22.04]
[08:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gcc-10-cross [sync] (jammy-proposed) [18ubuntu1.1]
[08:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gcc-10-cross-ports [sync] (jammy-proposed) [19ubuntu1.1]
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[08:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gcc-11-cross-ports [sync] (jammy-proposed) [8ubuntu1.1]
[08:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gcc-12 [sync] (jammy-proposed) [12.1.0-2ubuntu1~22.04]
[08:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gcc-12-cross [sync] (jammy-proposed) [5ubuntu2.2]
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[08:51] <schopin> Would it be reasonable to hint rust-object/s390x through? It fails not because of a regression but because new tests uncovered an old bug, and it's not fixable without breaking API (see LP: #1988385)
[09:04] <sil2100> Hello everyone! I'd appreciate some help in testing .5 images - we're still missing test results for Xubuntu and Ubuntu Mate flavors, can someone take a look at those?
[09:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal 20.04.5] has been marked as ready
[09:52] <rbasak> sil2100: o/ I can spare some time today to work on more SRUs if that's not going to step on your toes? As there's quite a backlog.
[09:56] <tumbleweed> schopin: that sounds reasonable to me. I'll hint it.
[10:51] <stgraber> what's going on with langpacks on focal ppc64el? https://jenkins.linuxcontainers.org/job/image-ubuntu/architecture=ppc64el,release=focal,variant=default/2126/console
[10:51] <stgraber> did we miss a package in a SRU release or something?
[11:09] <rs2009> tested Ubuntu Unity 20.04.5, and releasing it now
[11:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ruby-mysql2 [source] (jammy-proposed) [0.5.3-3ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[11:21] <jbicha> rs2009: I think that ubuntu-unity.kinetic/live page gets updated automatically
[11:22] <rs2009> jbicha: yep, looks like it got updated automatically
[11:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal 20.04.5] has been marked as ready
[11:47] <sil2100> rbasak: that's fine, I'll just get back to it after .5
[12:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server arm64+raspi [Focal 20.04.5] has been marked as ready
[12:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server armhf+raspi [Focal 20.04.5] has been marked as ready
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[12:06] <sil2100> Marking server as ready since all is green
[12:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity amd64 [Focal 20.04.5] has been marked as ready
[12:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity arm64 [Focal 20.04.5] has been marked as ready
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[12:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity s390x [Focal 20.04.5] has been marked as ready
[12:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ovn [source] (jammy-proposed) [22.03.1-0ubuntu2]
[12:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted linux-firmware [source] (jammy-proposed) [20220329.git681281e4-0ubuntu3.5]
[12:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected sudo [source] (jammy-proposed) [1.9.9-1ubuntu2.1]
[12:24] <sil2100> rbasak: in-between stuff I'll review cloud-init
[12:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected cloud-init [source] (jammy-proposed) [22.3-3-g9f0efc47-0ubuntu1~22.04.1]
[12:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Focal 20.04.5] has been marked as ready
[12:28] <rbasak> ack
[12:30] <rbasak> vorlon, juliank: I just noticed that Focal and Bionic unapproved also have a hidden source for grub2-unsigned. I don't know if that was the case before or not.
[12:30] <rbasak> However I probably won't end up reviewing these anyway
[12:31] <juliank> nothing has changed there
[12:32] <halves> hello ubuntu-release! could I kindly ask for a coredev to review LP: #1986611 for K, when you have some time?
[12:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: haproxy (jammy-proposed/main) [2.4.14-1ubuntu1 => 2.4.18-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-server)
[12:48] <rs2009> thank you vorlon, sil2100 and rbasak for voting on our proposal :)
[13:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal 20.04.5] has been marked as ready
[13:01] <sil2100> Okay, marking Kubuntu as good as well, since I see all tests are passed
[13:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal 20.04.5] has been marked as ready
[13:06] <sil2100> Anyway, since I see sufficient testing for all, I'll now start the release o/
[13:07] <sil2100> THanks everyone for the swift testing!
[13:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop amd64 [Focal 20.04.5] has been marked as ready
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[13:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: systemd (jammy-proposed/main) [249.11-0ubuntu3.4 => 249.11-0ubuntu3.5] (core, i386-whitelist)
[13:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ruby-json-jwt [source] (jammy-proposed) [1.13.0-1ubuntu0.1]
[13:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted boxbackup [source] (jammy-proposed) [0.13~~git20200326.g8e8b63c-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[13:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected lighttpd [source] (jammy-proposed) [1.4.66-1ubuntu1]
[13:49] <mparillo> Will you be able to post the URL of the release announcement?
[13:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: systemd (focal-proposed/main) [245.4-4ubuntu3.17 => 245.4-4ubuntu3.18] (core, i386-whitelist)
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[14:00] <sil2100> Okay, time for the reelease
[14:01] <sil2100> mparillo: sure, but I usually send that thing last. I'll send it here once it's done o/
[14:02] <mparillo> TY.
[14:21] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, pandoc restore please?
[14:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-10-cross-ports (jammy-proposed/universe) [19ubuntu1.1 => 19ubuntu1.1] (i386-whitelist) (sync)
[14:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gcc-10-cross-ports [sync] (jammy-proposed) [19ubuntu1.1]
[14:54] <sil2100> We are now released!
[14:54] <sil2100> (well, mirrors still syncing)
[14:55] <sil2100> waveform: hey! Can you update the raspi installer JSON for .5?
[14:55] <sil2100> bdmurray: can you take care of updating the meta-release files?
[14:55] <waveform> sil2100, on it
[14:56] <bdmurray> sil2100: I'll do it after waveform's MP
[14:56] <sil2100> \o/
[14:56] <sil2100> Thanks!
[15:01] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: what do you mean by restore?
[15:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added gcc-10-cross to i386-whitelist in jammy
[15:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added gcc-10-cross-ports to i386-whitelist in jammy
[15:02] <vorlon> rs2009: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/ubuntu-unity.kinetic/live gets updated automatically every 5 minutes
[15:02] <rs2009> vorlon: oh noice
[15:20] <vorlon> xnox: have you seen my request for a sourceful upload of linux-restricted-modules-lowlatency to drop the obsolete binaries from -proposed?
[15:21] <icey[m]> hey sil2100 : wanted to circle back around on what next steps are for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ceph/+bug/1967139 ?
[15:22] <sil2100> icey[m]: hey! One moment, let me look
[15:30] <icey[m]> sil2100: thanks! NO super rush but it would be nice to get it done :)
[15:30] <sil2100> aciba: hey! Quick question about the debian/*.postinst of "fix_1978422_redact_sensitive_logs_on_invalid_userdata_schema()"
[15:31] <sil2100> aciba: could you give me an overview what is the purpose of this postinst? Is it to basically remove sensitive info from existing logs?
[15:33] <sil2100> (in the cloud-init SRU)
[15:35] <falcojr> sil2100: (aciba is at end of day), yes, it is to remove sensitive info from the logs. It is part of a hotfix that has already been released
[15:36] <vorlon> xnox: incidentally, if I just remove the binaries from -proposed, they'll grow back when britney copies the package to the release pocket :P
[15:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ceph (jammy-proposed/main) [17.2.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 17.2.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-server)
[15:37] <waveform> bdmurray, think I've managed to propose the rpi-imager changes to the right place; https://code.launchpad.net/~waveform/meta-release/ubuntu/+merge/429306
[15:37] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: I have removed pandoc from -proposed, it's blocking netplan.io so I'll copy it back again once netplan.io has a change to build.  Any other packages that were dep-wait?
[15:40] <bdmurray> waveform: that looks correct to me, thanks!
[15:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: haproxy (focal-proposed/main) [2.0.13-2ubuntu0.5 => 2.0.29-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-server)
[16:27] <vorlon> ginggs, schopin: wrt busco being arch: all, we don't require arch: all packages to actually be installable across archs for migration
[16:28] <vorlon> I believe in the current configuration we check for installability only an amd64
[16:31] <ginggs> i think debian are now checking on amd64 and arm64, previously it was amd64 and i386
[16:32] <vorlon> yeah, I don't see us switching to check on arm64; it would cost us a lot of time picking apart the uninstallables and there's no reason for us to preference arm64 over ppc64el and s390x (and contractual reasons not to ;)
[16:34] <vorlon> slyon, LocutusOfBorg: netplan.io built successfully on armhf, and pandoc copied back to -proposed
[16:34] <vorlon> I can always rip it out again if we need to
[16:44] <slyon> vorlon: yay! Thanks a lot
[17:07] <vorlon> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/haskell-gi-gtk/3.0.38-1/+build/23849534 <table flip>
[17:11] <vorlon> and did not happen in Debian
[17:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: isa-support [amd64] (kinetic-proposed/universe) [13] (no packageset)
[17:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: isa-support [armhf] (kinetic-proposed/universe) [13] (no packageset)
[18:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted isa-support [amd64] (kinetic-proposed) [13]
[18:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted isa-support [armhf] (kinetic-proposed) [13]
[18:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted phosh [amd64] (kinetic-proposed) [0.20.0-2]
[18:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted phosh [ppc64el] (kinetic-proposed) [0.20.0-2]
[18:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted phosh [s390x] (kinetic-proposed) [0.20.0-2]
[18:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted phosh [arm64] (kinetic-proposed) [0.20.0-2]
[18:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted phosh [riscv64] (kinetic-proposed) [0.20.0-2]
[18:09] <teward[m]> any not-busy SRU members able to get something past unapproved and into -proposed for testing of the SRU?  universe, torbrowser-launcher has been broken since Jammy, Kinetic has a fix in it, just needs the Jammy SRU to go through.
[18:10] <teward[m]> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/torbrowser-launcher/+bug/1963286 if you'd be so kind :)
[18:10] <teward[m]> (this affects me which is the only reason I'm poking)
[18:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: ubuntu-unity-settings (kinetic-proposed/primary) [22.10-1]
[18:38] <guiverc[m]> sil2100: focal.5 ML ETA?
[18:39] <sil2100> guiverc[m]: sent it out, but needs moderation!
[18:39] <guiverc[m]> ack & thanks
[18:43] <bdmurray> will moderate
[18:49] <guiverc[m]> thanks bdmurray
[19:04] <sil2100> Thank you!
[19:05] <sil2100> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2022-September/000283.html
[19:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (jammy-proposed) [22.3-13-g70ce6442-0ubuntu1~22.04.1]
[19:28] <kanashiro[m]> if anyone from the release team could take a look at this FFe bug would be appreciated: LP #1988474
[19:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected cloud-init [source] (focal-proposed) [22.3-3-g9f0efc47-0ubuntu1~20.04.1]
[20:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (focal-proposed) [22.3-13-g70ce6442-0ubuntu1~20.04.1]
[20:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected cloud-init [source] (bionic-proposed) [22.3-3-g9f0efc47-0ubuntu1~18.04.1]
[20:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (bionic-proposed) [22.3-13-g70ce6442-0ubuntu1~18.04.1]
[20:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted torbrowser-launcher [source] (jammy-proposed) [0.3.3-6ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[20:52] <kanashiro[m]> ubuntu-archive: a removal request (also submitted to Debian) to unblock ruby-rack migration: LP #1988478
[21:21] <bdmurray> vorlon: Could you fully phased casper for focal given it was on the install media?
[21:30] <vorlon> bdmurray: done
[21:48] <teward> for whoever accepted torbrowser-launcher into jammy-proposed, thank you kindly!
[22:57] <bdmurray> vorlon: Can I get a +1 on an early release of tzdata?
[23:05] <bdmurray> or RAOF ^
[23:07] <rbasak> bdmurray: +1 in principle, if verification looks good
[23:08] <rbasak> But can't you issue a +1 yourself? :)
[23:08] <bdmurray> Given that it's less than 7 days I thought having a second approval would be good.
[23:09] <rbasak> Sure
[23:09] <rbasak> I had thought that we'd agreed an early release could be approved by any SRU team member on pretty weak grounds.
[23:09] <rbasak> tzdata seems like an obvious candidate to me; hence my +1
[23:10] <bdmurray> Okay, if that's what we'd agreed on!


[21:33] <escott> haltemien, sorry that was stupid. your route is still pointing at a non-existent ip. check the network settings and make sure you have dhcp enabled
[21:34] <spazzz> Are any of you running ubuntu 11.04?
[21:34] <escott> pr0xy, don't forget the -a
[21:34] <pr0xy> escott oCean will I be able to use sudo without a password, then?
[21:34] <haltemien> escott: on my router? Will i manage to connect to it if i connect it to the ubuntu with a cable?
[21:34] <oCean> pr0xy: that depens on your sudoers configuration
[21:34] <Barridus> anyone know of a nice xchat script that can display what song you're listening to?  (i won't use it here, promise)
[21:34] <escott> pr0xy, no. and having to input the password to run sudo commands is a good thing
[21:34] <diverdude> How do i add existing user www-data to group bdi?
[21:35] <pr0xy> escott my parents won't let me have a password
[21:35] <n4dsp> lol
[21:35] <spazzz> tell them your going to get hacked proxy
[21:35] <yeats> diverdude: 'sudo usermod -G bdi www-data'
[21:35] <oCean> spazzz: don't be silly
[21:35] <spazzz> sorry
[21:35] <escott> pr0xy, explain to them that the password is required and leave it at that
[21:35] <oCean> pr0xy: then talk to your parents, and choose a password together
[21:35] <paulsomebody> Okay, mystery solved.
[21:35] <haltemien> escott: That was a bit  unclear by my pRT. dO YOU WANT ME TO CHECK THE ROUTER SETTINGS, OR THE NETWORK SETTINGS IN UBUNTU?
[21:36] <haltemien> ops
[21:36] <pr0xy> escott how can I set one now?
[21:36] <skegeek> escott: I figured it out! 1280 res wasn't the problem...I had to move the screen horizontally via the buttons on the monitor itself.
[21:36] <escott> haltemien, in ubuntu upper right hand network settings
[21:36] <paulsomebody> The xbindkeys config file I exported had it enabled by default.
[21:36] <pr0xy> the system settings utility will not let me
[21:36] <escott> haltemien, you can also check the router
[21:36] <paulsomebody> Does anyone here have any experience with setting up and rebinding multimedia keys?
[21:36] <eigar> escott: didn't say removable media, said unmounted partitions.
[21:37] <escott> pr0xy, your username already has a password. you just arent in the admin group
[21:37] <haltemien> escott: Found the network tab, but I'm unfamiliar with his, and would need a guiding hand on what im looking for :)
[21:37] <pr0xy> escott i set it so I have no password
[21:37]  * skegeek loves having 1280 res back.
[21:37] <pr0xy> escott i log in by clicking login
[21:37] <spazzz> I forgot this isn't the chat where you can talk which ubuntu chat is it where you can?
[21:37] <oCean> spazzz: /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[21:37] <yeats> spazzz: #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:38] <spazzz> thats what it was thanks
[21:38] <skegeek> Thanks for the help. I gotta get to work now that I can see again.
[21:38] <oCean> pr0xy: you can set a password by just entering the command  password  in terminal. Or boot in rescue mode, do as escott told you to add yourself to the admin group and als run  password yourusername
[21:39] <escott> haltemien, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkAdmin
[21:39] <pr0xy> oCean it says password: command not found
[21:40] <escott> haltemien, hopefully the above helps. you want DHCP enabled if it isnt already. if dhcp is enabled then there is likely something wrong with the routers config
[21:40] <haltemien> escott: Thanks, ill check it out now :)
[21:40] <escott> pr0xy, passwd
[21:40] <oCean> pr0xy: ^again, what escott says :)
[21:40] <cheezygirl> join/ #ubuntu-fr
[21:40] <abu-bakr> escott: dude you're like a bot..
[21:40] <oCean> heh
[21:40] <abu-bakr> what do you get out of helping people on here?
[21:41] <oCean> abu-bakr: it's all volunteers here
[21:41] <escott> abu-bakr, some time to watch tv?
[21:41] <abu-bakr> I understand but some volunteer more than others
[21:41] <abu-bakr> escott: no actually rarely find the time for telly..
[21:41] <pr0xy> escott, that actually fixed it all
[21:41] <abu-bakr> either work or volunteer work
[21:41] <oCean> abu-bakr: true. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic if you feel like discussing offtopic matters
[21:41] <abu-bakr> palestine cause etc
[21:42] <abu-bakr> oCean: thanks
[21:42] <twocarlo> help synaptic stop running lately i got this error message"E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:42] <twocarlo> E: Unable to lock the list directory"
[21:43] <abu-bakr> escott: I think the last suggestion I made sounds like more hard work .. maybe its best just to do a fresh install onto a fresh raid array? but I hope I can setup the separate boot part properly.. :/
[21:43] <eigar> point being I have noticed at boot plymouth: unable to mount aa01df-fafa... <- uuid of partition. And wanted to find out what plymouth actually does at boot. Enabled bootlog in /etc/default/bootlogd and rebooted to have some log to work with but it was empty (and I got grumpy)
[21:43] <haltemien> escott: That guide wants me to write network-admin in the terminal.  And my terminal say that it is not currently installed. It seems to be that the ubuntu thinks my router ip is <IP_ADDRESS> instead of <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:44] <yeats> twocarlo: do you have any other APT program running? (software center? update manager?)
[21:44] <escott> abu-bakr, in the installer just create a small partition 1gig is enough and set its mount point as /boot its not a bad idea to have a /boot on every disk
[21:44] <escott> abu-bakr, so you can raid1 your /boot, but its easiest to set it up non-raid
[21:45] <escott> haltemien, you shouldnt need to do anything in the terminal
[21:45] <escott> haltemien, but i cant really describe screenshots that well
[21:45] <haltemien> escott: But the windows in that guide are very diffrent from the ones in the network settings
[21:46] <abu-bakr> escott: thanks .. prob go with non-raid for boot.. if it fails can easily rebuild another boot part?? using 'boot repair' (have you used this?)
[21:47] <spazzz> sup guys
[21:47] <abu-bakr> !sup | spazzz
[21:47] <qmanjr5> If I update Ubuntu from Update Manager, are my files, users etc saved?
[21:47] <spazzz> :) any of u guys running the new ubuntu 11.04
[21:47] <escott> abu-bakr, i've always raid1'd my /boot but it doesn't matter to much
[21:48] <spazzz> Im not used to this at all been running 9.10 for like 2 years this is so much different
[21:48] <LemonAid> Say i have a cronjob like this: "0 22 1 * 5 /task" What happens if the day of month (1) does not correspond with the day of week (5). Will the task be executed on every 1st of the month and every 5-th day of week, or will one take precedence over the other (witch one?)?
[21:48] <abu-bakr> escott: might just do that then :D4
[21:50] <zpb0103_> alright I've been trying this for a while and I'm not getting anywhere. I'm trying to manually adjust my screen resolution. ubuntu is not setting it correctly. I thought it was my drivers, but it looks like  I'm already using the correct intel drivers
[21:50] <zpb0103_> I'm trying to add to add a mode using xrandr and i'm getting stuck at trying to change the output
[21:51] <zpb0103_> Here's the pastebin of xrandr and my attempt http://pastebin.com/QBUuQuMz
[21:51] <spazzz> zp have you tryed auto adjust from the moniter just curious?
[21:51] <twocarlo> yeats: i closed sysnaptic but i think it runs on the background, it started when i try to install multi system boot but during on the midde of instalation i cancelled it
[21:51] <GOMI> do people here use some cleanup program in ubuntu ? (defragment) or doesnt have to in ubuntu ??
[21:51] <qmanjr5> If I update Ubuntu from Update Manager, are my files, users etc saved?
[21:52] <zpb0103_> spazzz: I'm on a laptop, the resolution its displaying is 1280 width instead of 1440
[21:52] <driven152> I did it!  I put window XP on my old lap top because I could'nt get the wireless to work in Linux.....and now it works!
[21:52] <spazzz> Yes qman
[21:52] <LemonAid> GOMI, Ubuntu does not need a defragmenter in most cases.
[21:52] <yeats> twocarlo: ah - in that case, do 'sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock' and see if you can run it then
[21:53] <ct_astro> hi, I need a way to disable CPU freq scaling in 11.10
[21:53] <paulsomebody> Is there a up-to-date graphic application to configure extra mouse/keyboard buttons?
[21:53] <haltemien> Anyone an expert at networking? I can connect to my wireless, but ubuntu think its ip is..01, instead of ..100. So i cant connect to it, and it prompts me for a password. But once connected i cant access the internett, or even ping the router.
[21:54] <GOMI> LemonAid, and like deleting unwanted files that take place in your hard drive ?
[21:54] <paulsomebody> There are quite a few out there, but they are severely outdated and most do not work on 11.10.
[21:54] <spazzz> I don't know then xpb013 maybe someone else will then sorry
[21:54] <ct_astro> paul: ok, can you think of any that might
[21:55] <ManDay> Casper hangs for more than a minute after it says "Running init-bottom". It then says  "* Stopping configure virtual network devices      Waiting for network configuration...         Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration"      I've got no idea where this is coming from, GREPing through the scripts returned nothing. Any idea what to do?
[21:55] <paulsomebody> ct_astro: Are asking me?
[21:55] <ct_astro> yes
[21:55] <paulsomebody> ct_astro: Well, obviously I was not able yet, or I would not be asking. :)
[21:55] <spazzz> Driven152 wireless for linux is really eazy to set up.You just need the name network and your password if its asking for one.Its more stable then windows.
[21:56] <ct_astro> paulsomebody: thx
[21:56] <Razzeeyy1> Hi everyone
[21:56] <unreal-dude> almost everyting about wireless is better under linux
[21:56] <paulsomebody> ct_astro: Ha, for what?
[21:56] <spazzz> sup razzzeeyy
[21:56] <LemonAid> GOMI, there should be an app that looks for unused packets (but not for registry, because it's not the case).
[21:56] <Razzeeyy1> anybody know how can I change the background image in GDM3 ?
[21:56] <haltemien> Spazzz: I beg the differ. I got problems with my network :P
[21:56] <spazzz> I agree dude
[21:57] <spazzz> I blame your network then
[21:57] <spazzz> no offence
[21:57] <spazzz> linux ftw!
[21:57] <haltemien> Spazzz: Care to help me figure whats wrong? :)
[21:57] <spazzz> There is a perfect vid on youtube
[21:57] <spazzz> about it
[21:58] <haltemien> Spazzz: But the problem is a very wierd one. I can connect and all that to the network, but i cant ping it
[21:58] <Razzeeyy1> .............................................................................
[21:58] <twocarlo> yeats: that worked ,youre the man!
[21:59] <haltemien> Spazzz: And ubuntu thinks my router ip is <IP_ADDRESS>, when it actually is <IP_ADDRESS>.
[21:59] <dimauro5> hello
[21:59] <dimauro5> #[_iron]#
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> haltemien  the ip of your router must be in /etc/resolv.conf
[22:00] <twocarlo> yeats:which process name is synaptic by the way on system monitor
[22:00] <haltemien> MonkeyDust: How do I chcheck that? I'm a linux beginner :)
[22:01] <republic> good early morning everyone
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> haltemien  sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf -- add the line: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:02] <murfie> !search ms-sys
[22:02] <haltemien> MonkeyDust: You mean the actual Ip of the router (<IP_ADDRESS>) or just <IP_ADDRESS>?
[22:02] <twocarlo> which process name is synaptic on system monitor
[22:02] <dimauro5> hi
[22:02] <MonkeyDust> haltemien  whatever your router ip is :)
[22:02] <dimauro5> ji
[22:02] <dimauro5> jilou
[22:02] <dimauro5> know it?
[22:03] <paulsomebody> Would there be repercussions if I install a package initially compiled for Debian?
[22:03] <haltemien> Monkeydust: Its a line there saying "nameserver (Actual IP of the router) there already :/
[22:03] <S0lo> has anyon here got stuxnet?
[22:03] <dimauro5> ji
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> haltemien  what's the outcome of dig| grep SERVER ?
[22:03] <dimauro5> alo
[22:03] <LemonAid> GOMI, this might interest you: http://tinyurl.com/crmendp (especially the 'apt-get autoclean' part).  I create that before the install right?
[22:04] <dimauro5> ok
[22:04] <haltemien> Monkeydust: Shall I write "dig| grep SERVER" in the terminal?
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> haltemien  yes
[22:05] <Eighteens> i have this file that is text, but it should open with some program and represent a graphic, as it is a hpgl file, i'm looking to either
[22:05] <haltemien> Monkeydust: Nothing happends
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> haltemien  does dig show something? just yes or no, don't paste it here
[22:05] <Eighteens> open the file, or print directly to a printer, but not have it print the text, only graphics, can someone help me chose a app for that in ubuntu
[22:05] <guntbert> paulsomebody: most likely yes, and not too pleasant ones
[22:06] <spazzz> cap server
[22:06] <unreal-dude> paulsomebody when it comes to linux, its comiled for the processor architechure, but the package is built for in this case debian, you probably wont run into many issues (depending on what packages it needs and what it does) as long as your dependancies are all met
[22:06] <spazzz> Thats weird though I never ran into that problem
[22:06] <haltemien> MonkeyDust: When i did a "dig| grep SERVER" nothing happend
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> haltemien  without the quotes
[22:07] <phil_phys> dear friends I have two distro of ubuntu in my computer 11.10 and 8.04
[22:07] <unreal-dude> paulsomebody what package?
[22:07] <phil_phys> In the first i have only 4 Gb of free space
[22:07] <phil_phys> and in the other I have 44 GB free
[22:07] <GOMI> LemonAid , thanks for the link :)
[22:07] <phil_phys> i can see 8.04 only if i use ubuntu classic
[22:08] <haltemien> MonkeyDust: Tried it again, and i got an errormessage now. Connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> ha!
[22:08] <phil_phys> I want to incease free spce in 11.10
[22:08] <phil_phys> increase
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> !enter| phil_phys
[22:08] <Gentoo64> phil_phys: thatd be a pita
[22:08] <haltemien> Monkeydust: A good HA! or a bad one? :P
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> haltemien  not good
[22:08] <Gentoo64> phil_phys: as the other ubuntu is directly after
[22:08] <phil_phys> I have both 11.10 amd 8.04 I want more free space on 11.10
[22:09] <haltemien> MonkeyDust: But there must be something i can do. The network works fine with windows and other devices
[22:09] <phil_phys> Gentoo64: hat is a pity?
[22:09] <ericrichards> Dose yalls ndis wifi drivers crash in 11.10? mine crash all the time. seems like in 11.04 it was fine
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> haltemien  type dig|pastebinit -- you may have to install pastebinit first
[22:09] <Gentoo64> phil_phys: a pain
[22:09] <Gentoo64> in the ass
[22:09] <phil_phys> Could I delete 8.04?
[22:09] <Gentoo64> yes
[22:10] <phil_phys> How can I delete it?
[22:10] <Gentoo64> delete the partition
[22:10] <Gentoo64> you might need to redo grub
[22:10] <haltemien> MonkeyDust: How can I get that when i cant access the net? :P
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> haltemien  how are you here? you have more than one pc?
[22:10] <Gentoo64> phil_phys: delete the 8 partition, then extend the free space into the 11 one
[22:10] <Gentoo64> with gparted if you like
[22:10] <ericrichards> pay your bill and get net
[22:11] <phil_phys> I cannot delete 8 partition
[22:11] <Gentoo64> why?
[22:11] <haltemien> Monkeydust: Iam on a TransAsus transformer. Can you give me a direct link to that file, and ill try to transfeer it trough an usb stick
[22:11] <phil_phys> I have both windows and ubuntu
[22:11] <Gentoo64> wubi?
[22:11] <phil_phys> I see 8 distro only on ubuntu classic
[22:11] <Gentoo64> because windows cant see linuc
[22:11] <Gentoo64> x
[22:11] <MonkeyDust> haltemien  dig is command to get technical data, it is not a file
[22:11] <qmanjr5> If I update Ubuntu from Update Manager, are my files, users etc saved?
[22:12] <phil_phys> I want to delete 8 distro without changing 11.10
[22:12] <phil_phys> how can i do?
[22:12] <Gentoo64> phil_phys: is 8 on its own partition yes?
[22:12] <Gentoo64> phil_phys: tell me the partition layout
[22:12] <phil_phys> 8 and 11.10 are in the same partition
[22:12] <ManDay> Which command tells me info about a package (which version of it is installed etc)?
[22:12] <Gentoo64> phil_phys: they cant be
[22:13] <badbandit> how do I move the window resize buttons to the left side?
[22:13] <MonkeyDust> ManDay  apt-cache policy or apt-cache show
[22:13] <phil_phys> How can I check?
[22:13] <haltemien> MonkeyDust: Oh. How can i get it over to the ubuntu PC?
[22:13] <ManDay> thanks
[22:13] <Gentoo64> phil_phys: in linux, fdisk -l
[22:13] <Gentoo64> sudo ^
[22:13] <MonkeyDust> haltemien  don't know what you mean :s
[22:14] <phil_phys> how can i delete 8 distro?
[22:14] <haltemien> MonkeyDust: OK, sorry, I'm a huge noob :) I cant 1dig pastebinit, because pastebinit is not currently installed. I asumed it was a program
[22:14] <Gentoo64> phil_phys: delete the partition
[22:14] <phil_phys> if i delete the partition i lose also 11.10 distro
[22:14] <Gentoo64> phil_phys: boot from the livecd and go into gparted and youll see it there
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> haltemien  yes pastebinit is a program, it gives you a url that you can paste here
[22:15] <Gentoo64> phil_phys: you just said one has 44gb free space the other has 4gb so they must be on different partitions
[22:15] <phil_phys> I downloaded all the version from internet
[22:15] <conntrack> that was lucky
[22:15] <haltemien> MonkeyDust: But then i need to get that program over on the ubuntu PC, and then get the url?
[22:15] <phil_phys> yes they are
[22:15] <Gentoo64> phil_phys: what are you on about then
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> haltemien  lol yes :) we're stuck there
[22:16] <Gentoo64> you just said theyre not
[22:16] <Gentoo64> stop trolling
[22:16] <phil_phys> it depends if I choose ubuntu classic or not
[22:16] <phil_phys> if i choose classic i see 8 distro
[22:16] <haltemien> MonkeyDust: :P But it must be possible to download that program on this tablet, and transfeer it to the ubuntu trough a usb stick?
[22:16] <phil_phys> if i choose normal distro I cannot see all that free space
[22:16] <badbandit> how do I move an application to the next workspace? before when I had desktop cube I could just move it over and it would automatically move to the next workspace...
[22:16] <badbandit> anyone know how to do this?
[22:17] <badbandit> also how to go back and forth between workspaces
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> haltemien  if you have more than one pc in the same network, ssh to the problem pc and execute dig|pastebinit
[22:17] <haltemien> MonkeyDust: You just blew my brain out :P I only have this tablet and now a ubuntu PC
[22:18] <Trigun191> can anyone please help me with a java question
[22:18] <|usr|bin|nice> badbandit, ctrl+alt+shift and the direction you want to go
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> haltemien  a tablet, didnt know
[22:18] <usr13> Trigun191: What is your question?
[22:18] <badbandit> ah ok cool/weird
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> haltemien  a tablet is beyond my abilities
[22:19] <Trigun191> Well, I need to install java onto ubuntu through the terminal but none of my commands are bringing anything up all errors
[22:19] <Trigun191> and I cant find them to download them manually
[22:19] <phil_phys> why i cannot see the 8.04 if i don't choose ubuntu classic?
[22:19] <usr13> badbandit: Ctrl-F2  Ctrl-F1 etc.
[22:19] <guntbert> !java | Trigun191
[22:19] <haltemien> Monkeydust: Isent there anything else i can try? :(
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> haltemien  try to do something with the tips a gave you, gotta go now
[22:20] <usr13> Trigun191: ... and use the package management system.
[22:20] <haltemien> Monkeydust: Ok, thanks for the help so far, mate :)
[22:20] <escott> abu-bakr, just got back
[22:21] <Bublik2002> who here runs 12.04 alpha 1? im just wondering how the stability is compared to 11.10
[22:21] <Trigun191> well im using an older version its for a rom write
[22:21] <haltemien> Any other network expert here, that can pick up the torch? :)
[22:21] <guntbert> !precise | Bublik2002
[22:22] <Bublik2002> is there a channel for 12.04 discussion?
[22:22] <phil_phys> how can I delete my 8.04 distro?
[22:22] <phil_phys> I want to use only 11.10
[22:23] <Benkinooby> haltemien, what's the problem?
[22:23] <Trigun191> i need these two packages java6 bin java6 jre
[22:23] <phil_phys> without losing my documents
[22:23] <Arnold> Bublik2002, yes. Support and discussion for it is in the #ubuntu+1 channel
[22:23] <guntbert> Bublik2002: yes, #ubuntu+1 (as ubottu told you :-))
[22:23] <clear`> !jave | Trigun191
[22:23] <phil_phys> I want to increase the free space on 11.10
[22:23] <Bublik2002> ok thanks guys
[22:23] <clear`> !java | Trigun191
[22:23] <phil_phys> can you help me?
[22:23] <haltemien> Benkinooby: Thanks mate :) I can connect to my wifi, and it wants me to enter password and all that. But i still cant pink the router, or even access internet
[22:24] <haltemien> ping*
[22:24] <erkules> moin, (regarding upstart) if the execed process dies while post-start runs, will it respawn immediately? or wait for the post-start script to end?
[22:24] <Benkinooby> haltemien, connected with waht device?
[22:24] <haltemien> Benkinooby: A PC, that I just did a clean install with Ubuntu on
[22:25] <escott> phil_phys, if you have a partition with an old ubuntu version boot a livecd/usb and use gparted to delete the unnecessary partition and expand you ubuntu partition
[22:25] <Bublik2002> i have a dell e6410 laptop and for some reason a lot of the time it freezes when i try to wake it from suspend... yet it runs perfectly if i run fedora 16.... is it something to do with the updated kernel and do you think it would be better to update to 12.04 alpha 1?
[22:25] <Trigun191> ok I see the page so what about the bin
[22:25] <Benkinooby> haltemien, do you have a second computer in your wifi that cna ping the router?
[22:25] <Benkinooby> cna = can
[22:26] <haltemien> I have this tablet, that is connected trough the same router, and before i had ubuntu, i used windows that had no problems
[22:27] <abu-bakr> escott: wb. so am I to raid1 the separate 1gb boot parts first then load bootloader onto them?
[22:27] <Benkinooby> haltemien, ok, enter the command 'ifconfig' and 'route -n' and paste the output to #halte_network
[22:28] <js> great. just great. grub-install just killed the whole partition. and still does not boot. has anyway tried lilo on a macbook pro?
[22:28] <Benkinooby> haltemien, oh
[22:28] <abu-bakr> escott: also btw the raid5 array always benchmarks slower than the individual drives any idea why this is?
[22:28] <Benkinooby> haltemien, that's not possible... sorry, i forgot
[22:28] <haltemien> Benkinooby: Its a bit hard to paste it, sense i only have this tablet here :/ Any specific info you need?
[22:28] <new2linx> anyone use myphpmyadmin? I am worried that phpmyadmin/setup/index.php is accessible from outside world
[22:28] <Benkinooby> haltemien, ok, what IPs do you get for your PC?
[22:28] <escott> abu-bakr, i would start with a 1gb (it can be smaller 250mb is probably enough) on each disk, and just select one of those as the /boot partition. at a later point you can convert that to raid1 mirrored across all your disks
[22:28] <Benkinooby> haltemien, what local IP hast your router?
[22:28] <new2linx> i shouldn't say worried it is accessible, IT IS ACCESSIBLE right now
[22:29] <new2linx> any phpmyadmin help would be MUCH appreciated
[22:30] <escott> abu-bakr, how are you benchmarking
[22:30] <haltemien> Benkinooby:  <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:30] <haltemien> benkinooby: and my router is: <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:30] <Benkinooby> haltemien, can you ping yourself?
[22:31] <haltemien> Benkinooby: yes
[22:32] <Benkinooby> haltemien, what does the commadn 'route -n | grep <IP_ADDRESS>' give you?
[22:32] <Benkinooby> haltemien, without the '' of course
[22:33] <abu-bakr> escott: thanks..
[22:33] <abu-bakr> the benchmarking using the disk utility within ubuntu
[22:33] <haltemien> Benkinooby: Lots of adresses, 4 of them are marked in red
[22:34] <escott> abu-bakr, so i have no idea what that does. i would use something like bonnie++ or one of the kernel build tests. there are a number of benchmarking tools in apt
[22:34] <Immune> How much ram is required to run ubuntu server edition 11.04 ?
[22:34] <Benkinooby> haltemien, is one of them like <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 eth1 ?
[22:34] <Benkinooby> haltemien, is one of them like <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 eth1 ?
[22:34] <psycho_oreos> !repeat| Benkinooby
[22:35] <Bublik2002> guys can someone help me out?
[22:35] <Benkinooby> psycho_oreos, i adapted the ip of the gateway... sorry though
[22:35] <soreau> ! help | Bublik2002
[22:35] <haltemien> Benkinooby: <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>, UG, 0, 0, 0, wlan0
[22:35] <dimos> Immune, the minimum is 128 megabytes
[22:35] <Benkinooby> haltemien, ok
[22:36] <Trigun191> Still lost with java on ubuntu
[22:36] <Benkinooby> haltemien, btw what's the error message you get when you try to ping?
[22:36] <bazhang> Trigun191, enable partner repo
[22:36] <soreau> ! java | Trigun191
[22:36] <Immune> dimos: ok thx
[22:36] <haltemien> Benkinooby: the router?
[22:36] <Bublik2002> my dell e6410 laptop is a certified ubuntu 11.10 32bit.... I installed the 64bit edition and my laptop freezes sometimes whenever i wake it from suspend... what could be the issue?
[22:36] <conntrack> wouter!
[22:36] <abu-bakr> escott: ok thanks.. it has a couple of tests for disks.. one is a read only and the other a read/write.. the disks indidually avg read at about 45mb/s and the whole averages the same... maybe its because the new array is still compiling?
[22:36] <Benkinooby> haltemien, yes
[22:36] <bazhang> conntrack, stop that
[22:36] <kaushal> Hi
[22:36] <conntrack> Soz :(
[22:37] <kaushal> is there a way to get list of IPs if i have list of sub domains like *.bom.example.com on ubuntu ?
[22:37] <escott> abu-bakr, you definitely should not be running benchmarks when the computer is doing anything else with the disks
[22:37] <escott> kaushal, dig
[22:37] <Bublik2002> and why would the laptop be certified for the 32bit edition and not the 64bit edition? its an i5
[22:37] <haltemien> Benkinooby: From <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=12 Destination Host unreachable
[22:37] <kaushal> escott: any example ?
[22:37] <escott> kaushal, dig www.google.com
[22:38] <kaushal> escott: so run dig *.bom.example.com ?
[22:38] <abu-bakr> escott: aye ;) i start it when the array is 'idle' but then part way through it will start 'recovering'
[22:38] <kaushal> i should get list of all IP's ?
[22:38] <escott> kaushal, you would have to put something in for the *. you can't just ask a random network to tell you all the computers on the network
[22:38] <Trigun191> enable partner repo?
[22:39] <kaushal> escott: yes
[22:39] <kaushal> so the question is to generate a list
[22:39] <abu-bakr> !clone
[22:39] <kaushal> for example hosta.bom.example.com has ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:40] <kaushal> similarly there are 200 servers
[22:40] <Xaosratt> question: What remote desktop options are available for ubuntu 11.10, and can I install them with SSH only access? I used to use FreeNX, but that seems to have severe problems with 11.10
[22:40] <bazhang> !partner | Trigun191
[22:41] <AaronDCampbell> Where do I set up my screensaver?
[22:41] <Trigun191> and from there?
[22:42] <soreau> AaronDCampbell: Using gnome?
[22:42] <Benkinooby> haltemien, hm, you get that error usually when you try to ping a non existing ip
[22:42] <Trigun191> after I set the repo, can I then do the java install run and do I have to set the terminal to root?
[22:42] <Benkinooby> haltemien, did you configure the network manually?
[22:43] <haltemien> Benkinooby: I havent done anything to the network :)
[22:43] <Trigun191> !sud0
[22:43] <Trigun191> !sudo
[22:44] <haltemien> Benkinooby: When i did my first boot, I found my wifi network and just connected, but internet didnt work
[22:44] <spazzz> what distro are you using just curious haltemien?
[22:44] <haltemien> Spazzz: What is a distro? :S
[22:44] <spazzz> umm...
[22:44] <haltemien> Same as version?
[22:44] <spazzz> yes
[22:45] <Benkinooby> haltemien, use the command 'sudo iwconfig'
[22:45] <haltemien> The newest one from ubuntu.com
[22:45] <Benkinooby> haltemien, use the command 'sudo iwconfig | grep ESSID'
[22:45] <spazzz> 11.04?
[22:45] <Douro> Hi, is vgaswitcheroo by default in Ubuntu or would I need to compile my own kernel?
[22:45] <Benkinooby> haltemien, do you see your network name?
[22:46] <Benkinooby> haltemien, with the grep command?
[22:46] <soreau> Douro: It should be available without having to build anything
[22:46] <escott> Douro, not by default, they might have a ppa
[22:46] <haltemien> Benkinooby: Yes!
[22:47] <Acorn> What do I need to do if I'm trying to build something and it says "Could not find XOpenDisplay in -lX11."?
[22:47] <soreau> Acorn: That means youre likely missing X11 development headers
[22:47] <edbian> Is it possible to sniff network traffic without being associated to a AP with wireshark
[22:47] <Acorn> And before I continue.. nobody knows of a debian package for bashrun2 do they? :)
[22:47] <Benkinooby> haltemien, can you find out the ip of your tablet and then try to ping the tablet?
[22:47] <MeQuerSat> Anyone know a good archive manager?
[22:47] <escott> edbian, yes
[22:48] <SunTsu> edbian: Packets are flying over the air, what do you guess?
[22:48] <lunitunez> edbian: backtrack 5 is your friend
[22:48] <Douro> soreau, escott, can you run ls -l /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch for me? I need to be sure.
[22:48] <Bert_2> I would like to get some information concerning possibly wrong dependencies, #ubuntu-dev doesn't exist so is this the right channel or not ?
[22:48] <haltemien> BEnkinooby: Wont ping tablet
[22:48] <Acorn> soreau: so I'd need to install xorg-dev?
[22:48] <escott> Douro, i dont have vgaswitcheroo or nvidia so I wouldnt expect that file to exist
[22:49] <edbian> SunTsu, escott lunitunez I thought so.  What about with TCPDump ?  I was not able to using TCP dump last time I tried
[22:49] <Benkinooby> haltemien, is it WPA2 encryption?
[22:49] <SunTsu> edbian: a big advantage for sniffers is a big drawback, too. You only can sniff what you receive. But I don't think this is ubuntu specific
[22:49] <haltemien> BEnkinooby: The terminal isent doing anything, no error message
[22:49] <Douro> escott: I want to know if it's included in the kernel
[22:49] <haltemien> BEnkinooby: Yeah, i tihnk so. Have to enter a password to log onto it
[22:49] <escott> Douro, and im 99% sure it isnt
[22:49] <densta> hello
[22:49] <edbian> SunTsu, I think  you're right.  But when talking about wifi, all packets can be 'heard' and therefore 'recieved'
[22:49] <soreau> Acorn: Probably libx11-dev
[22:49] <densta> got the latest install of ubuntu running
[22:49] <haltemien> Benkinooby: WPA/WPA2
[22:50] <densta> mouse pointer lags, whats the first thing i should check to fix this?
[22:50] <SunTsu> edbian: only if you actually receive it, not being blocked away for instance, by metallic objects
[22:50] <soreau> Douro: That file doesnt exist here on 11.04, but it doesnt havr switchable graphics either
[22:50] <edbian> SunTsu, ahh, yeah
[22:50] <edbian> thanks
[22:50] <edbian> helpful as always!
[22:50] <densta> well not all the time
[22:50] <densta> but at the moment its lagging
[22:50] <Bert_2> densta: have a look whether a process is overloading, run the system-monitor, processes tab and turn on "all processes" in the menu
[22:51] <spazzz> I been wanting to say this benkinooby but make sure he's info is correct too.I don't think he did it right.Make sure hes network name,password and the security wpa or what not is correct cause if all that is right it should work.
[22:51] <jtannenbaum> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[22:51] <jtannenbaum> ????
[22:51] <Benkinooby> spazzz, that's what i think too
[22:51] <spazzz> been wanting to say that for 10 mins but didn't
[22:51] <Yoshimitsuc> Hi all :)
[22:51] <guntbert> jtannenbaum: does that happen repeatedly?
[22:51] <Acorn> if you cancel an apt-get installation part way through downloading, will it clean up after itself?
[22:52] <spazzz> exspecially with the newer version of linux they make it really eazy
[22:52] <haltemien> Benkinooby: But the wierd part is that when i select the network im connected to, i says default route and dns is: <IP_ADDRESS>, and NOT <IP_ADDRESS> that is he router ip
[22:52] <MeQuerSat> Anyone know a good archive manager?
[22:52] <spazzz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN8PrEbmct8 there is a vid on the network
[22:52] <spazzz> might help might not
[22:52] <soreau> MeQuerSat: file-roller?
[22:52] <bjrohan_> Hey everyone. I am using Blender in 11.10, which uses alt-RMB to select. when I do so, it brings up an Ubuntu menu for maximize,minmize close, etc. How can I disable this?
[22:52] <guntbert> Acorn: if you kill it during downloading, yes
[22:52] <Jayface> command line archivers are the best
[22:52] <Yoshimitsuc> How can I setup advenced animations in compiz fusion in Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[22:52] <Jayface> rar unrar tar zip unzip
[22:53] <echo083> old ubuntu release repository please ?
[22:53] <escott> bjrohan_, either remap the blender option or change the window manager shortcuts. what window manager are you using
[22:53] <Jayface> sudo apt-get --fix missing
[22:53] <Bert_2> bjrohan_: install compiz-settings or compiz-config-settingsmanager (depending on your version), then change the keybindings ;)
[22:53] <soreau> Yoshimitsuc: Install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra and compizconfig-settings-manager then look in ccsm>Effects>Animations for settings. More help in #compiz
[22:53] <oCean> echo083: old-releases.ubuntu.com
[22:53] <Acorn> Are there any places one might find packages that are not in the ubuntu repositories?
[22:54] <bazhang> Acorn, in ppa
[22:54] <skomorokh> anyone know the cleanest way to get vaapi support running well in oneiric with sandy bridge? installed i965-va-driver and turned on the experimental acceleration in vlc but it was pretty damn broken. vainfo says the right things tho. can't seem to find an especially good howto..
[22:54] <Bert_2> Acorn: as eCean said, change your apt sources to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[22:54] <bazhang> !ppa | Acorn
[22:54] <bjrohan_> I think I am using Unity?  I have Compizconfig setting manager, is that where I would disbable/change it Bert_2 If so where?
[22:54] <Bert_2> Acorn: sorry, answer was not for you, ppa was
[22:54] <dr3mro> hello can any one tell me what does this command do ? while true ; do echo "WoW" | nc -lp 8888 -w1 2>/dev/null ; done ; killall -9 nc
[22:54] <Yoshimitsuc> how can i instal this plugin
[22:54] <echo083> oCean, cool and for security.ubuntu.com ?
[22:55] <Trigun191> if I am using an old version of ubuntu could that affect me trying to install java
[22:55] <Yoshimitsuc> in all distro i haved it but on this i haven't but i very like it
[22:55] <densta> all normal here
[22:55] <oCean> echo083: none I think, since those repositories don't hold updates
[22:55] <Bert_2> bjrohan_: Unity uses compiz for its effects and bindings, afaik, in the settingsmanager you can search for keybindings using the advanced search option, I'd look there and give it a try
[22:55] <Benkinooby> haltemien, i don't know who to ensure that all the info you gave me is correct. as spazzz pointed out, i don't think you're connected correctly, because then it should work.
[22:55] <densta> no high cpu or memory usage
[22:55] <bazhang> Trigun191, what version
[22:55] <Bert_2> bjrohan_: maybe backup your settings first (there a button for that somewhere)
[22:56] <densta> Bert_2 : what next?
[22:56] <Benkinooby> haltemien, i also thought that your router might block your computer and you have to unlock it on the router first
[22:56] <bjrohan_> ok
[22:56] <bjrohan_> will do
[22:56] <echo083> oCean, so i should remove security.ubuntu.com from my sources.list file ?
[22:56] <Trigun191> 9.1 i am looking for sun java files bazhang but I see they dont do that for ubuntu anymore
[22:56] <escott> dr3mro, doesn't seem to be a valid command   -l      Used to specify that nc should listen for an incoming connection
[22:56] <escott>              rather than initiate a connection to a remote host.  It is an
[22:56] <escott>              error to use this option in conjunction with the -p, -s, or -z
[22:56] <Benkinooby> haltemien, but you having wrong routes is very weired...
[22:56] <bazhang> Trigun191, upgrade to a supported version <---- step one
[22:56] <bjrohan_> I haven't changed anything yet, could I just reset to default if it goes awry?
[22:56] <haltemien> Benkinooby: The information is correct, thats what is freakin me out. I dont think there is any reason for my router to block this computer, and i have friends over that connect there cellphones all the time without problems
[22:56] <Benkinooby> haltemien, do that command 'ps -A | grep dhc'
[22:57] <oCean> echo083: you have not told what you want to do. If you're still running an old/eol version I recommend you upgrade (if path is available) or reinstall
[22:57] <ubuntuDan_> Hey
[22:57] <ubuntuDan_> Is there a way to make the top bar always appear in Ubuntu 11?
[22:57] <Trigun191> ok I am now doing an upgrade for what it shows in the one, but its doing an upgrade for the ver10 but I see that there is a ver 11 out?
[22:57] <echo083> oCean, yes still use an old version :( i'll upgrade you are right thanks for your time ;)
[22:58] <bazhang> Trigun191, yes, 11.10 is the latest
 Fileroller has virtually no options
[22:58] <guntbert> Trigun191: upgrading is a step by step process
[22:58] <MeQuerSat> Any *good* archive manager? :)
[22:58] <haltemien> Benkinooby: Nothing happens when i type: ps -A | grep dhc
[22:58] <Trigun191> oh so it has to do each version to get to the main?
[22:58] <Benkinooby> haltemien, ha!
[22:58] <Yoshimitsuc> ok i found it :)
[22:58] <escott> !best | MeQuerSat you are going to have to define good. what is lacking in file-roller
[22:58] <guntbert> Trigun191: 9.10 -> 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04.....
[22:58] <soreau> MeQuerSat: It's just a frontend gui to most of the cli archive utilities
[22:58] <Benkinooby> haltemien, dhclient is the daemon that is responsible for configuring your network with DHCP
[22:59] <soreau> MeQuerSat: There's gzip, tar, unzip, unrar etc
[22:59] <Trigun191> ok, so will i be able to get these sun java6 bin and sun java6 jre?
[22:59] <Benkinooby> haltemien, that could at least explain the weired routes
[22:59] <haltemien> Benkinooby: Cool! Can we fix it? :D
[22:59] <bazhang> Trigun191, from partner, once you have done that? yes
[22:59] <Trigun191> ok
[22:59] <escott> haltemien, if you are using wpa/wpa2 its a good idea to disable the encryption and see if you can get online that way. if you can that would point to an issue with your wpa_supplicant setup
[22:59] <MeQuerSat> escott, I already defined that
[22:59] <Trigun191> I am following a guide and it is just outdated, the link they had was for 9.1
[22:59] <Benkinooby> haltemien, type that command 'dhclient'
[23:00] <Trigun191> and it is just cause so many problems lol
[23:00] <escott> MeQuerSat, you said you want "options" but thats not adequate. what options?
[23:00] <MeQuerSat> soreau, yeah I know its just a GUI to the cli, but Id like a gui in which many options can be set (like compression level)
[23:00] <haltemien> Benkinooby: Nothing happends when i type: dhclient
[23:00] <abu-bakr> !automate
[23:00] <Trigun191> do you think I could just leave it running and it would contintue the process of going through each one, or do I have to check for an update each time?
[23:00] <guntbert> Trigun191: what is your real target?
[23:01] <Benkinooby> now do the ps -A | grep dhc again
[23:01] <Benkinooby> now do the ps -A | grep dhc again haltemien
[23:01] <soreau> MeQuerSat: If you want the most control, you're probably best off using the cli tools directly
[23:01] <Trigun191> setting up the android kitchen
[23:01] <haltemien> Escott: Will i be able to comunicate with it, if i drag it accros the house and connect to itwith a wire+
[23:01] <haltemien> Benkinooby: Nothing happends
[23:01] <ubuntunoob> bj
[23:01] <MeQuerSat> sorea: I know that, but isnt there any gui program that can set things like compression level?
[23:01] <escott> haltemien, those are all good things to test. wired will test if the router is working. wireless without wpa will test the wireless card wireless with wpa tests the wpa_supplicant
[23:02] <pioneer_for> bonsoir a tous et a tout
[23:02] <oCean> !fr | pioneer_for
[23:02] <soreau> MeQuerSat: Not that I'm aware of. That doesn't mean there isn't one, you could do a google search or ask on the forums
[23:02] <haltemien> Benkinooby: Shall we try that escott said, or do you have a another idea? :)
[23:02] <MeQuerSat> I know Peazip has all those options, but unfortunately its not in the repositories :(
[23:02] <pioneer_for> desoler je me soui tromper de salon
[23:03] <guntbert> Trigun191: did you see http://code.google.com/p/kitchen-p500/wiki/kitchenPart1 ?
[23:03] <Benkinooby> haltemien, i even think can't really help you further... so do what escott says
[23:03] <haltemien> Benkinooby: ok brb :)
[23:05] <MeQuerSat> soreau, is there a way to get it in the repositories?
[23:05] <spazzz> Escott if u disable the wpa on a wpa connection won't that defeat the purpose and not work? just curious? inless I misunderstood what you where telling him there?
[23:05] <soreau> MeQuerSat: pardon?
[23:05] <Benkinooby> haltemien, escott got to go, good luck
[23:05] <escott> spazzz, on the router
[23:05] <Acorn> How can you make a specific application run borderless?
[23:05] <MeQuerSat> soreau: <MeQuerSat> I know Peazip has all those options, but unfortunately its not in the repositories :(
[23:05] <spazzz> o
[23:06] <soreau> MeQuerSat: You can try the deb here http://www.peazip.org/peazip-linux.html
[23:07] <MeQuerSat> sorea, I already did, but its a bit a pain to look on the site every week to see if there's an update
[23:07] <soreau> MeQuerSat: If the software works, why do you need to update?
[23:08] <soreau> MeQuerSat: You probably only need to check for an update if you upgrade ubuntu
[23:09] <MeQuerSat> sorea, ubuntu's main strength is the repo's
[23:09] <guntbert> !tab | MeQuerSat
[23:09] <soreau> MeQuerSat: This is a pointless conversation since we don't even support packages that aren't in the official repos
[23:10] <MeQuerSat> guntbert, lol I know
[23:10] <MeQuerSat> sorea, discussion? I asked howto get it in the repo's
[23:10] <soreau> MeQuerSat: You already answered that question: It's not in the repos
[23:11] <MeQuerSat> soreau, how do I get it in...?
[23:11] <soreau> !info peazip
[23:11] <soreau> MeQuerSat: You can file a bug report
[23:11] <MeQuerSat> ah, and where should I file the report?
[23:13] <OerHeks> MeQuerSat, for proposal new packages > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[23:13] <MeQuerSat> Thanks OerHeks, exactly what I was looking for
[23:14] <CharminTheMoose> I'm having a problem firefox and X's sloppy focus. The menus (File, Edit, View) and the right click menu just disappear when mousing over them, so I can't click on anything in those menus, though surfing the web works fine, for the most part.
[23:14] <Wonderhoof> i'm having trouble with high cpu use while idling
[23:14] <paulsomebody> Is there anyone here who have successfully configured Microsoft Natural Keyboard and/or Mouse keys/buttons to function on Ubuntu?
[23:15] <Wonderhoof> it's idling at about 50% use, and i can't find any CPU intensive processes in the task manager
[23:15] <Wonderhoof> i'm also running xubuntu, so there's no reason for it to be that high
[23:15] <Eighteens> Is there a print command, to print a text file as a graphic, i think it's like hpgl output file to a plotter, or a viewer anyone knows of to view hpgl files under 10.04
[23:15] <haltemien> Escott: I removed the WPA, and it still doesnt work :/
[23:15] <Trigun191> yes guntbert, that is the same exact guide except I am using the one from the unlockr.com that has a video, the problem is once you get to the step of installing java from the terminal it can locate it its an error message, that guide is out of date
[23:16] <escott> haltemien, on the router you disabled the wpa
[23:16] <haltemien> Escott: Yes, It even says "open" network, on my tablet now
[23:16] <escott> haltemien, and you can confirm that nothing on the router is configured to block you (like mac address filtering)
[23:16] <haltemien> Escott: I just did a factory reset on the router, So unless its standard, it should do it
[23:16] <Acorn> I see there's a "decoration windows" setting in compiz.. is there an opposite? windows that shouldn't be decorated?
[23:17] <Trigun191> well I hope i didnt mess the process up of using what they asked for because on that guide he has added in an extra step if you still cant get the java files, and I have already started upgrading the ubuntu
[23:17] <escott> haltemien, did you trying plugging in? did that work?
[23:18] <haltemien> Escott: Yes, Ubuntu connected with it, and i did a factory reset, and new setup on it, trough ubuntu
[23:18] <jtannenbaum> "Custom IOS 249 is a stub! Please reinstall it"
[23:19] <jtannenbaum> Is there an easy way to do this that won't break my HBC and everything
[23:19] <escott> haltemien, so you can connect with a cable but with the cable disconnected you can associate, but the router doesn't seem to recognize you are trying to connect
[23:19] <guntbert> Trigun191: sorry, no idea then (although that guide never mentions a specific ubuntu version)
[23:19] <Eighteens> how can i view a .hpg or .hpgl file in ubuntu, it keeps opening with gedit, or open office
[23:19] <szal> jtannenbaum: iOS != *buntu
[23:19] <haltemien> Escott: I can connect with the router wirelessly, but after its connected, it just like it just isent there anymore
[23:20] <jtannenbaum> wrong channel yay
[23:20] <escott> haltemien, yes that would be "associating" but you aren't getting a "dhcp lease"
[23:20] <Trigun191> here you guntbert http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/26/how-to-create-your-own-custom-rom-for-android-part-1-setting-up-the-kitchen/
[23:20] <haltemien> Escott: I got no clue. I hardly know what a dhcp is
[23:20] <escott> haltemien, so I'm not really sure how to debug this. what kind of wireless card do you have
[23:21] <Trigun191> even the video tells you the version but I am guessing at the time that is what was out when they made it
[23:21] <haltemien> Escott: The wireless card worked fine with widnows. Let me check
[23:21] <yumbo> Eighteens, why would you wan to open it? Do you expect an image?
[23:21] <Eighteens> ok i said that wrong, it opens fine with gedit, but all that shows me is the text, this type of file should have some type of viewer that reads plotted coordinates, and renders them to some type of graphic on the screen....
[23:21] <escott> haltemien, dhcp is dynamic host configuration protocol. basically you tell the router "i want to be online" and the router tells your computer how to configure itself to be online
[23:21] <haltemien> Escott: How can i check HW in ubuntu?
[23:21] <haltemien> Escott: ahhh
[23:22] <escott> haltemien, lshw -c network
[23:22] <yumbo> Eighteens, I believe XnView can open those files
[23:22] <Eighteens> yes yumbo, thanks for your response... it actually is a image
[23:22] <Trigun191> the main thing is I am reading that ubuntu does not support the sun java files anymore, but if that is the case, what i use in there place? strange?
[23:23] <haltemien> Escott: RT2800 802.11n PCI
[23:23] <Flannel> Trigun191: Canonical doesn't, Ubuntu never did.  You can use the FOSS java in the repos instead (iced tea)
[23:23] <Flannel> Trigun191: Well, 'never did' in recent history anyway
[23:23] <joseph_> hey guys this is my lspci, http://pastebin.com/3s6iQHRP  my web browsing is painfully slow
[23:24] <joseph_> I tried connecting via lan and wlan and is the same thing
[23:24] <Trigun191> how do I get that?
[23:24] <CharminTheMoose> I thought sun OS'ed java though?
[23:24] <itaylor57> Trigun191, I have both oracle java 6 and 7 and am running 11.10
[23:24] <escott> haltemien, so i dont really know how to debug this. sounds like something isn't working maybe with the wireless adapter. you might check if there are any messages in dmesg when you try and connect to the network
[23:24] <joseph_> anyone has any ideas?
[23:24] <haltemien> Escott: How do i do that? :)
[23:25] <escott> haltemien, dmesg | tail -n 20
[23:25] <yumbo> Eighteens, you can find it here: http://www.xnview.com/en/index.html
[23:25] <Flannel> Trigun191: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2011-December/001528.html lists a few possible paths forward
[23:25] <pidgin> I am trying to compile Pidgin in Ubuntu 10.04 but ./configure shows an error "You must have GLib 2.16.0 or newer development headers installed to build. If you have these installed already you may need to install pkg-config so I can find them." What is the package I need?
[23:25] <Trigun191> ok so will that work the same, and where do I fet it
[23:25] <haltemien> Escott: Lots of info there, anything i should look for?
[23:26] <mongy> pidgin, use the pidgin ppa
[23:26] <escott> haltemien, anything that mentions your network card
[23:26] <Flannel> CharminTheMoose: They are removing the ability for distributors to modify java, thereby removing the ability for us to remove a few important bugs.
[23:26] <pidgin> mongy: I don't want that version.
[23:26] <Flannel> CharminTheMoose: That mailing list post has the details if you're interested
[23:26] <Trigun191> where are the archives at?
[23:26] <haltemien> Escott: It say alot of stuff about MhZ and KHz, and in the end it says: no IPV6 routers present
[23:26] <Eighteens> yumbo, do you think that prints post script, or IN;SP0;PS;SC0, <--- stuff like that to graphics
[23:27] <Flannel> Trigun191: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2011-December/001528.html
[23:27] <Odamaz> http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3416/aclomnnciaewfai.jpg
[23:27] <Odamaz> Siri is calling me out
[23:27] <yumbo> Eighteens, Im not sure, but this site mentioned it: http://www.file-extensions.org/hp-file-extension-hp-graphics-language-plotter-file
[23:27] <Eighteens> yumbo i'll have a look, thanks for the tip, this was a big thing that 'someone forgot to overlook' before converting all windows machines
[23:27] <mongy> pidgin, you probably need libglib2.0-dev
[23:27] <escott> haltemien, you can also run tail -f /var/log/kern.log (type ctrl-c to close this) and then try to associate and see if anything pops up
[23:28] <pidgin> mongy: I am going to try thanks
[23:28] <escott> haltemien, that last bit could be interesting. you should be dual stack ipv6 and ipv4 but that might not be working
[23:28] <Trigun191> I got that flannel, but which ones do I need that will work in place of the java jre and java bin
[23:28] <haltemien> Escott: Associate is that the same as wire the router again?
[23:29] <z3ro3x> Miro keeps crashing.  Not usually when I'm using it but when I minimize it while it's downloading and come back to check on it, I find it closed.  It seems to like to crash when it's out of focus and I'm not paying attention to it.  Could use some help tracking down the issue.
[23:29] <cowlicks> #austinhackerspace
[23:29] <Flannel> Trigun191: That post (see option #1) gives you the package names.  They're in the regular Ubuntu archives
[23:29] <escott> haltemien, so when you have a wired connection you just send electrical signals. when you use wireless you have to associate first which means you agree on what radio frequency to transmit on, and how to identify your messages from all the other wireless traffic
[23:29] <Trigun191> good
[23:29] <ok_wait> hi all! how do i get the unity plugin visible in compizcontrol settings manager?
[23:30] <pidgin> mongy: that package worked. now show You must have GTK+ 2.10.0 or newer development headers installed to compile
[23:30] <pidgin> :P
[23:30] <mongy> pidgin, same again.   libgtk2.0-dev
[23:30] <haltemien> Escott: Ok . I entered the command, and I shall now close the terminal, and connect wirelessly again?
[23:30] <pidgin> libgtk2.0-dev
[23:30] <pidgin> mongy: :)
[23:31] <pidgin> mongy: so the "dev" packages are needed to compile
[23:31] <ok_wait> apt-get install unity returns: The following packages have unmet dependencies.  unity : Depends: compiz-core-abiversion-20110828     Depends: compiz-plugins-main-default but it is not going to be installed            E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.    synaptic says there's no broken packages and the only locked package is gnome-session
[23:32] <escott> haltemien, no leave the terminal open
[23:32] <ok_wait> how do i install unity?
[23:32] <escott> haltemien, watch to see what appears as you try to associate
[23:33] <coolstar> ok_wait: It comes with ubuntu
[23:33] <ok_wait> coolstar, ah... but it's not installed
[23:33] <coolstar> ok_wait: What version of ubuntu do you have?
[23:33] <haltemien> Escott: It say alot on updating information on freq. It seem to try on several, and it ends with: Disabling 2284 MHZ. Regulatory domain changed to country GB (I live in norway). And then some freq stuff, and last IPv6 router is not present
[23:33] <ok_wait> coolstar, 11.10, just upgraded
[23:33] <haltemien> 2484*
[23:33] <coolstar> ok_wait: unity should come with 11.10
[23:34] <mongy> pidgin, sorry, yes..
[23:34] <ok_wait> coolstar, that's what i was thinking too but E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[23:35] <escott> haltemien, ok that could be the issue. national regulations restrict what frequencies channels are available. it may be that your router is operating at a channel that is legal in norway and illegal in the us/gb but to be most compliant ubuntu is restricting you to channels legal in the us/gb
[23:35] <ok_wait> coolstar, are there packages that conflict with unity that i need to remove?
[23:35] <haltemien> Escott: I find it hard to belive that anything is legal in norway, and illegal in other countries :P But how do we fix it?
[23:35] <coolstar> ok_wait try: "sudo apt-get -f install"
[23:35] <escott> haltemien, "rfkill list" might say something interesting
[23:36] <escott> haltemien, but check what channel your network is set to in your router
[23:36] <ok_wait> coolstar, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[23:36] <haltemien> Escott: 0: phy0: Wireless LAN:     Soft Blocked: no, hard blocked: no
[23:36] <escott> haltemien, all this stuff is what makes wireless complicated
[23:37] <coolstar> ok_wait: try running software update and see if it works
[23:37] <haltemien> Escott: So what to try now? :P
[23:38] <escott> haltemien, what channel is your router set to
[23:38] <haltemien> Escott: How do i check that?
[23:39] <escott> haltemien, login to the router and see what it is set to
[23:39] <haltemien> Escott: Can i check it trough this android tablet?
[23:39] <escott> haltemien, however you want
[23:39] <ok_wait> coolstar, ok i guess i have 2 update managers, one of which says i need to install libboost-signals so doing that
[23:40] <haltemien> Escott: Dont know, how, so ill just connect the router again.
[23:40] <haltemien> Escott: brb
[23:40] <ok_wait> coolstar, apt-get install unity still returns unity : Depends: compiz-core-abiversion-20110828
[23:40] <ok_wait>          Depends: compiz-plugins-main-default but it is not going to be installed
[23:40] <ok_wait> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[23:41] <yumbo> ok_wait, if you run "sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins-main-default" what happens?
[23:41] <coolstar> ok_wait: try "sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins-main-default compiz-core-abiversion-20110828"
[23:42] <fishcooker> i've desktop iso how to 'upgrade' to the real server
[23:43] <fishcooker> donloding the server iso could take some times
[23:43] <fishcooker> any help would be gread
[23:43] <fishcooker> t support
[23:43] <ok_wait> coolstar, yumbo, Package compiz-core-abiversion-20110828 is a virtual package provided by:
[23:43] <ok_wait>     compiz-core 1:0.9.6+bzr20110929-0ubuntu6 [Not candidate version]
[23:43] <ok_wait>     compiz-core 1:0.9.6+bzr20110929-0ubuntu3 [Not candidate version]
[23:44] <ok_wait> E: Package 'compiz-core-abiversion-20110828' has no installation candidate
[23:44] <yumbo> ok_wait, have you run "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update" already?
[23:45] <AndroUser2> Escott: Channel 6
[23:45] <Haltemien> Escott: Channel 6 even :)
[23:45] <ok_wait> yumbo, yes, same error of held broken packages. :/
[23:46] <ok_wait> yumbo, not during clean and update but 'install unity'
[23:47] <fishcooker> what should i do to migrate from desktop to server minimal like?
[23:47] <fishcooker> anyone?
[23:48] <escott> Haltemien, so channel 6 should be ok. that leaves possible issues as: ipv4 vs ipv6 issues or some problem with the drivers for the wireless. unfortunately i dont really know how to deal with either
[23:48] <Haltemien> Escott: Its so freakin wierd. With windows its flawless.
[23:49] <yumbo> ok_wait, can you run "sudo apt-get install --force-all compiz-core"
[23:50] <Haltemien> Escott: Thanks anyway :)
[23:50] <ok_wait> yumbo, E: Command line option --force-all is not understood
[23:51] <yumbo> ok_wait, my bad, replace that with "-f"
[23:51] <ok_wait> compiz-core is already the newest version.
[23:51] <spazzz> Has anyone used codeweavers yet with the new version of linux?
[23:52] <yumbo> ok_wait, did you enabled any extra repositories?
[23:52] <ok_wait> yumbo, i haven't touched the repos in ubuntu
[23:53] <ok_wait> yumbo, should i?
[23:54] <yumbo> ok_wait, well, its always a good idea to change the main server to one in your country
[23:54] <spazzz> Hey haltemien sorry you didn't get it figured out but maybe your network provider can walk you through it on the phone.I know if I ever had a problem I couldn't figure out mine would.
[23:54] <danes> hello, can anyone please tell me where can I find help with php?
[23:55] <zpb0103_> danes:  ##php
[23:55] <Haltemien> Spazz
[23:55] <Haltemien> Spazz: Thanks mate, Im just gonna move my computer and wire it instead, and do what i need to do, and then move it back, and go back to windows :)
[23:56] <ok_wait> yumbo, mmmk.. i'm in the US. i'm looking over the software sources and there a bunch of repos that were 'disabled on upgrade to oneiric'
[23:57] <spazzz> DOn'T do that! windows ugghh... work threw it :( I know comcast supported linux they would help me / well they helped me twice when I had an issue with my internet I remember for a fact.I was being a noob and they walked me threw it over the phone.I misplaced the wire :/
[23:58] <joe335> hello
[23:58] <yumbo> ok_wait, I always have main, universe, restricted, multiverse and the "Canonical Partners" repo's enabled
[23:58] <ok_wait> yumbo, k lemme look
[23:58] <joe335> i dunno if im in the right place but I got a problem I cant resolve
[23:59] <joe335> would anybody be willing to help me out?
[23:59] <yumbo> joe335, state your problem and others can help
[23:59] <spazzz> good luck with it either way wish I could have helped more,need food later..


[03:43] <paul_h> can anyone tell me if there's a way to change my alias on here using Pidgin so that I can indicate that I'm away?
[04:16] <TheMuso> paul_h: You're better off using /away IMO, people tend to get annoyed when people change their nickname to indicate status.
[04:21] <paul_h> TheMuso: just tried that, did it do anything?
[04:22] <charlie-tca> whois paul_h
[04:22] <TheMuso> paul_h: You need to do something like "/away away message goes here."
[04:22] <TheMuso> paul_h: And then type /away to remove your away status.
[04:22] <TheMuso> Thats what I do in irssi anyway.,
[04:23] <TheMuso> charlie-tca: paul_h is Paul Hunt.
[04:23] <TheMuso> From the ubuntu accessibility mailing list.
[04:23] <charlie-tca> yeah, whois should show status too, shouldn't it?
[04:23] <charlie-tca> I typed it wrong. It should have a / in front
[04:27] <paul_h> hehe so tried "/away off to bed" did anyone see anything?
[04:30] <TheMuso> paul_h: It won't show up in the channel, which is the idea.
[04:30] <TheMuso> paul_h: But if someone messages you or does a whois query, they will see your away message.
[04:30] <TheMuso> paul_h: But yes your away message is showing now.
[04:31] <paul_h> TheMuso: thanks :)


[01:10] <kaushal> Hi
[01:10] <kaushal> I heard ubuntu-users mailing list will be shutdown, is that correct ?
[01:10] <kaushal> Shuttleworth (SABDFL) wants to shutdown this ubuntu.user list
[01:17] <gorilla> kaushal: No idea. I'm not on that list :-)
[01:28] <kaushal> ok
[01:37] <gorilla> hmmm Indian ip address.. perhaps I should have checked that before responding.
[08:25] <xannen> Evening!
[08:28] <xannen> OMG I can't log on hon.  :(
[08:33] <sagaci> <25% to go for en_AU
[08:33] <sagaci> officially
[08:35] <xannen> LOL Are they kicking them off?
[08:36] <sagaci> kicking them off?
[08:36] <xannen> Nevermind, you're referring to translation.   :D
[09:53] <sagaci> !info cmake
[09:53] <sagaci> does work
[10:47] <xannen> !info sagaci
[10:48] <xannen> :(
[10:48] <xannen> lol
[10:50] <gorilla> almost tmi.
[10:54] <xannen> What is tmi?
[10:58] <gorilla> too much information.


[07:02] <Kilos> morning africa
[11:00] <Kilos> wb Neo31
[11:00] <Neo31> hi Kilos :)
[11:00] <Neo31> i got ur message by spotty_
[11:00] <Neo31> wasn't so clear
[11:00] <Neo31> what's up about that translation?
[11:00] <Kilos> i cant even remember that
[11:01] <Kilos> oh that was long ago
[11:01] <Kilos> nm its sorted ty
[11:01] <Neo31> 2 days ago
[11:01] <Neo31> good
[11:01] <Kilos> hows you project going
[11:02] <Neo31> it's live now
[11:02] <Neo31> still have a lot of issues to fix
[11:02] <Neo31> one to two weeks
[11:02] <Kilos> good
[11:02] <Neo31> depending on the client
[11:02] <Kilos> whew
[11:02] <Neo31> hopefully not more than than
[11:02] <Kilos> lets hope so
[11:03] <Neo31> I have to move on very soon
[11:03] <Kilos> to where?
[11:03] <Neo31> off of this project
[11:03] <Kilos> ah
[11:03] <Neo31> it has to end
[11:03] <Kilos> yes i agree
[11:03] <Kilos> the odd bit of support now and again is ok
[11:04] <Neo31> you know the client can always keep asking for more
[11:04] <Neo31> but i need to close this at least
[11:04] <Kilos> they alwasy want more
[11:04] <Neo31> and in the next months we can do maintenance and changes
[11:04] <Neo31> hhh
[11:04] <Neo31> anyway
[11:04] <Neo31> how r u doing ?
[11:05] <Neo31> what's up ?
[11:05] <Kilos> same old but we finding new countries for here now and again and the new site gets some visitors
[11:06] <Kilos> you seen the new site hey?
[11:09] <Kilos> Neo31  http://ubuntu-africa.info
[11:09] <Kilos> refresh a few times and watch scenery changed
[11:10] <Kilos> and the cc sees no infringements and canonical hasnt answered so all seems good
[11:19] <Neo31> sweet
[11:19] <Neo31> now it's a website :)
[11:19] <Neo31> we have the basic pages there already :)
[11:19] <Neo31> and a good front page :)
[11:19] <Neo31> thx Kilos
[11:19] <Neo31> :)
[11:20] <Kilos> yeah i think its all there but we have some improvement to add still
[11:20] <Kilos> only time holds things back
[11:20] <Kilos> you like it so far
[11:20] <Kilos> ?
[11:21] <Kilos> the irc link in join us come straight here too
[11:22] <Kilos> and the mailing list link works
[11:37] <Kilos> QA  wish
[11:37] <QA> I wish all you geek types a very successful day