[02:52] <Sbreeze> I have one computer with 2 nics and I have a dsl modem attached to one nic.. how do I share the other nic's with internet
[02:52] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom should be straight forward
[02:52] <madsen> Matic`Makovec: Maybe that's the problem apt is having with it...
[02:52] <Matic`Makovec> madsen, but it obviusly does, and I've never seen that before that's why it amazes me.
[02:53] <Askar> ikonia_: I cant find a page that says what new.. I found one that said feisty is going to have..windows that wobble..yay :(
[02:53] <madsen> Matic`Makovec: what mirror is it?
[02:53] <Matic`Makovec> A wine mirror
[02:53] <ikonia_> Askar so ?
[02:53] <ikonia_> Askar what do you want
[02:53] <techie> Madsen this is what I got: c:\\windows\\system32\voice.exe. Module not found bu the actual program's name is Voice Edit.exe located in   /mnt/windows/Program Files/Panasonic/Voice Editing. Does this makes sense to you?
[02:53] <Matic`Makovec> madsen, W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY<PHONE_NUMBER>7EE263
[02:53] <Matic`Makovec> W: e elite odpraviti teave, poskusite zagnati apt-get update.
[02:53] <dhiraj> madsen:Myth: You need rEFIt to install/boot Linux
[02:53] <dhiraj> You dont. The firmwares built-in boot volume chooser (hold Option to activate it) will recognize Linux boot CDs as well as bootable hard disks and let you boot them. (They may be labeled Windows, though.) For triple-booting youll get only one item in the built-in chooser, but you can use GRUB, LILO, or NTLDR to act as a second-level menu to choose between Windows and Linux. The gptsync tool can be compiled to run on Linux.
[02:53] <dhiraj> Of course rEFIt makes it easier. For example, it will give you a single menu even for triple-boot setups.
[02:53] <Matic`Makovec> I'm fully aware I screwed up GPG keys
[02:53] <ikonia_> techie you may get better help in #wine or #wine-hq
[02:53] <Robinsjostrom> ikonia: but you still have to install it from commandline? right?
[02:53] <Askar> ikonia_: A page that lets me see whats new that doesnt show : )
[02:53] <Matic`Makovec> But only this mirror has problems with it so I _could_ remove it
[02:53] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom no use synaptic
[02:54] <techie> ah, thanks.
[02:54] <LiteWait> /who am i
[02:54] <ikonia_> Askar read more docs, check the forum, check the wiki
[02:54] <Askar> ikonia_: Hmm ok.. I will search
[02:54] <Robinsjostrom> ikonia: oh that really works for installing drivers?...cool
[02:54] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom the ati drivers are just a apackage
[02:55] <Robinsjostrom> ikonia_: thats nice
[02:55] <madsen> techie: Did you run 'wine "/mnt/windows/Program Files/Panasonic/Voice Editing/Voice Edit.exe"'?
[02:55] <techie> madsen, I will try it now. wait
[02:56] <LiteWait> newbie just installed feisty.  trying to get all the restricted formats going.  mlb.com videos don't seem to work though.  I don't get an error and i don't know what format they are running.  Installed wincodecs and all the restricted formats from the respository.  And ideas?
[02:56] <madsen> Matic`Makovec: Hmm... Looks like that repo is indeed in sources.list somewhere...
[02:57] <techie> madsen when I tried to run it i get: wine: cannot find '/mnt/windows/Program'
[02:57] <ikonia_> LiteWait 1.) fesity support is in #ubuntu+1 2.) why is a linux newbie using beta software 3.) why have you not read the basic docs
[02:57] <albacker> guys can someone help me ?! i changed from gnome to fluxbox, but my devices aren't automounted now.. like for example, windows devices, and USB flash disks
[02:57] <varkatope_> Sbreeze: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111972
[02:57] <ikonia_> techie you have to escape spaces "program files"
[02:57] <ikonia_> see the pace
[02:57] <ikonia_> space
[02:57] <ikonia_> linux dos not like the space so you need to use escape chars
[02:58] <Matic`Makovec> madsen, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8934/
[02:58] <LiteWait> ikonia_ : sorry.  I will move there.  Not a Linux newbie, but a ubuntu newbie.
[02:58] <madsen> techie: You need to put " " around the path to the exe.
[02:58] <Toma-> albacker: thats because youre not using gnome anymore.
[02:58] <techie> madsen thanks.
[02:58] <madsen> techie: np
[02:58] <albacker> Toma-, why should ubuntu be linked to gnome in anyway ?!
[02:59] <ikonia_> albacker gnome is doing the mounting
[02:59] <albacker> Toma-, doesnt ubuntu mount all my devices [like usb ones]  ?!
[02:59] <dhiraj> madsen:goddit, install ur grub to ur ubuntu partition ,then use refit,ie install refit to ur mac os x volume,thn u can dual boot using refit,no risks
[02:59] <albacker> ikonia_, where's the file of gnome that does thjat ?!
[02:59] <Toma-> albacker: its not... its just that gnome has automounting built in
[02:59] <ikonia_> albacker dbus intergrated into gnome
[02:59] <Matic`Makovec> albacker, you can go to kubuntu or something if you don't like it.
[02:59] <ikonia_> albacker fluxbox has no dbus support - so it can't execute themount
[02:59] <ikonia_> albacker you have to configure it manually
[02:59] <madsen> dhiraj: So (hd0,3) (for /dev/sda4), right?
[02:59] <Jowi> albacker, dbus. you can create your own udev rules or use a file manager that does that for you automatically (like thunar)
[03:00] <dhiraj> rite
[03:00] <Matic`Makovec> Does that link give you any idea madsen ?
[03:00] <albacker> Jowi, how do i know which device is my flash disk to so i can mount it automatically ?!
[03:00] <dhiraj> den follow the man pages on refit
[03:00] <albacker> Jowi, lsusb gives this Bus 004 Device 003: ID 10d6:1000 Actions Semiconductor Co., Ltd MP3 Player
[03:00] <doctorow> I have a Lenovo t60p. I just reinstalled and updated Ubuntu. It would only boot in 640x480, no matter what resolution I chose from the Screen Resolution panel. After choosing 1080 and rebooting, it can't seem to start X at all. I get the username/password screen, I fill it in, the screen blanks, and then it brings up the username screen again. The same happens with failsafe GNOME as well. Any help is much appreciated.
[03:00] <Toma-> albacker: thunar is a lightweight filemanager with dbus support
[03:00] <Toma-> albacker: i use it with e17
[03:00] <albacker> ok
[03:00] <albacker> wait..
[03:00] <ikonia_> albacker it will be seen as a scsi disk
[03:00] <albacker> ill apt-get it
[03:01] <ikonia_> albacker apt-get what ?
[03:01] <Frogzoo> doctorow: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:01] <albacker> ikonia, apt-get install thunar
[03:01] <madsen> Matic`Makovec: No, in fact it puzzles me quite a bit!
[03:02] <techie> madsen: I got this:  wine "/mnt/windows/Program Files/Panasonic/Voice Editing/voice editing.exe"
[03:02] <albacker> Thunar is the file manager designed to be the default file manager of Xfce 4.4
[03:02] <albacker>  .
[03:02] <albacker>  This version is an svn snapshot, and thus may contains bugs.
[03:02] <doctorow> Frogzoo Thanks, will try that now
[03:02] <Matic`Makovec> madsen, hehe, welcome to the club :)
[03:02] <dhiraj> Bie ppl,cya tomorrow,
[03:02] <ikonia_> albacker what version of ubuntu are you using
[03:02] <Robinsjostrom> is the latest and recommended release of ubuntu 6.10?
[03:02] <madsen> Matic`Makovec: Unfortunately I've got to go now, I'm in the middle of an install. But I hope you figure it out.
[03:02] <ikonia_> albacker and the version of thunar in the repo is svn ?
[03:02] <albacker> ikonia, edgy
[03:02] <Matic`Makovec> madsen, thanks for trying. Good luck with your install :)
[03:02] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom yup
[03:02] <madsen> dhiraj: Thanks for your help!
[03:02] <madsen> Matic`Makovec: Thanks! :)
[03:02] <albacker> ikonia, Version: 0.4.0svn+r23151-0ubuntu1
[03:02] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom or the LTS version
[03:03] <techie> maden and then  \\Program Files\\Panasonic\\Voice Editing\\voice editing.exe") not found
[03:03] <techie> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\mnt\\windows\\Program Files\\Panasonic\\Voice Editing\\voice editing.exe" failed, status c0000135
[03:03] <ikonia_> albacker wow, unusual to get svn in the repo
[03:03] <Askar> What do u think of this? I think I agree...
[03:03] <Askar> http://www.zdnet.com.au/forums/0,139029293,339273880-320075510o,00.htm
[03:03] <Toma-> albacker: dont install it yet
[03:03] <albacker> ikonia, is there any .deb or .tar.gz out there..
[03:03] <ikonia_> albacker use the repo - its the best option
[03:03] <I-kido> techie u cant mount an .exe file, but u can mount a device
[03:03] <ikonia_> albacker but I think toma- has info for you
[03:03] <madsen> techie: looks like that program won't immediately run under wine... Maybe you should try #wine instead... Or check out their website.
[03:03] <Toma-> albacker: theres a pre-built package from xfce.
[03:03] <Jowi> !info thunar
[03:03] <ubotu> thunar: File Manager for Xfce. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.0svn+r23151-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 384 kB, installed size 2956 kB
[03:04] <techie> madsen I will do that
[03:04] <madsen> techie: Either way, I've got to go now. Good luck with it!
[03:04] <Toma-> 0.4 is old and horrible. 0.8.0 is great
[03:04] <techie> madsen... thanks I appreciate the help
[03:04] <ikonia_> techie have you read the wine docs yet??? you've been asking about this for days
[03:04] <ikonia_> !wine >techie
[03:04] <doctorow> Frogzoo OK, I'm running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -- I have a screen that wants me to select my X server driver. Which one should I choose?
[03:04] <madsen> techie: No problem!
[03:04] <albacker> Toma-, where did you get it
[03:04] <Frogzoo> doctorow: what's your vid card?
[03:05] <Toma-> albacker: can you plz wait a moment?
[03:05] <albacker> Toma-, of course.
[03:05] <doctorow> Frogzoo It's an ATI -- the standard one for the Thinkpad T60p; I can look up the exact model, one Sec
[03:05] <techie> Ikonia. I have been asking about other things for days and you already corrected me once. No, I haven't been asking about this for days. I am trying to learn so as to NOT ICONVENIENCE you as you so bluntly stated yesterday!
[03:06] <techie> Ikonia. I have not been asking about this specific issue .....
[03:06] <doctorow> Frogzoo It's ATI Mobility FireGL V5200 - 256 MB
[03:06] <Frogzoo> doctorow: you can just choose 'ati' for now - you may like to read the docs if you have a more recent card & install the fglrx driver, however ati is fine
[03:06] <Jowi> techie, I think the channel for wine is #winehq here on freenode
[03:06] <Frogzoo> doctorow: k, so ati's your only option then
[03:06] <ikonia_> techie you have been trying to get wine to work for days, so I can grab the logs if you want. I'm just curious if you've read the wine docs yet, which is why I sent you the link
[03:06] <techie> Jowi, thanks maden had made me aware and I contactd them.
[03:06] <Jowi> techie, you might get more luck from ppl in there
[03:06] <ikonia_> techie its no inconvienene
[03:06] <Jowi> ok
[03:07] <techie> ikonia thanks ikonia, I will read the respective logs
[03:07] <ikonia_> techie you'd been asking for days about wine, didn't know if you'd read the wine docs, looking at your problem, you've not
[03:07] <Toma-> albacker: http://thunar.xfce.org/download.html
[03:07] <doctorow> Frogzoo It's now prompting me for an "identifier" for the card, the option filled in is "Generic Video Card" is that OK?
[03:07] <Toma-> albacker: get the "thunar-Bundle"
[03:07] <ikonia_> techie you want me to get the logs for you ?
[03:07] <Frogzoo> doctorow: all the defaults are sensible, just click through to where you choose multiple monitor resolutions
[03:07] <ikonia_> techie a few people gave suggestions that may help you if you've forgot/missed them
[03:07] <techie> ikonia just give me the links and I will save them or tell me how to save previous information so that I know what I asked for and have not.
[03:08] <albacker> Toma-, 1 sec
[03:08] <ikonia_> !wine>techie theres the links for the the wine docs, they are not bad and should get your at least started
[03:08] <techie> ikonia. thank you ikonia.
[03:08] <ikonia_> techie then if you have specific problems, you can ask specific rather than just "how to....its not working why, why why"
[03:08] <ikonia_> techie easy to answer specifics once you've got it working/basic install ok
[03:09] <doctorow> Frogzoo It's now prompting me for video modes and has a long list of resolutions; should I check them all off?
[03:09] <techie> ikonia understood. I did not even know a few days ago what was !command such as !wine . I thought these were comands you placed on the terminal.  It is a process of learning
[03:09] <techie> I got it.
[03:10] <ikonia_> techie everyone learns, but its easy to read the docs and get the basics then ask specifics, hope the docs help
[03:10] <techie> ikonia thanks.
[03:10] <Robinsjostrom> can i install ubuntu on an externam WD mnybook?
[03:10] <Robinsjostrom> mybook
[03:11] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom check the hardware to see if its compatible
[03:11] <ikonia_> (I assume a mybook is a laptop)
[03:11] <Robinsjostrom> ikonia: its an external harddrive
[03:11] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom you can install it on any disk you want
[03:11] <doctorow> Frogzoo I've got a long list of resolutions, which ones should I check off?
[03:11] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom how you boot from it, is up to you
[03:12] <Robinsjostrom> ikonia: but its possible to boot from it?
[03:12] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom that depends if your motherboard supports usb boot, or if you want to put the grub boot loader on your primary boot device
[03:13] <Robinsjostrom> ikonia: http://rasher.dk/UbuntuOnMyBook255/
[03:13] <ikonia_> Robinsjostrom why are you showing me that
[03:13] <techie> ikonia thanks again. I was so new at this that just a couple of days ago when you sent !wine and I repeated it on the screen was because I had no inkling that ubotu(the robot) was opening another section on xchat for me to look at the info.
[03:14] <ikonia_> techie no problem
[03:15] <doctorow> Frogzoo URGENT I completed the process and now I can't even reboot!
[03:17] <Frogzoo> doctorow: why not?
[03:17] <thestriker> a good hub to set up in dapper?
[03:18] <Frogzoo> thestriker: all hubs will work
[03:18] <hl5pma>
[03:18] <doctorow> Frogzoo It loads the UBUNTU screen with a kind of staitcky bar down the middle of the screen, and never gets to the login
[03:19] <Frogzoo> doctorow: select 'recovery' from the grub menu - you can then reconfigure your xorg until it works properly
[03:19] <Frogzoo> !ati | doctorow
[03:19] <ubotu> doctorow: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:19] <ikonia_> thestriker hub ??
[03:19] <doctorow> Frogzoo How do I get to the Grub menu?
[03:19] <ikonia_> doctorow boot the pc
[03:19] <doctorow> ubotu thanks
[03:19] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:20] <Frogzoo> doctorow: should just come up, before the ubuntu splash - if not, hit esc
[03:20] <keithhhhh> Is there any problems installing Ubuntu on a Vista system
[03:20] <Frogzoo> !vista
[03:20] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[03:20] <koutroumpesis> ffff
[03:20] <thestriker> ikonia, yes a hub!..for a dc network
[03:20] <ikonia_> keithhhhh not that I'm aware of as ubuntu doesn't install into the OS
[03:20] <ikonia_> thestriker what do you want to know ?
[03:21] <Frogzoo> keithhhhh: you might want to check that grub works ok with vista
[03:21] <techie> ikonia. very cool indeed now that I am reading about the wine program etc... It makes a lot of sense especially now that I know where to find the "documenation" to read about.
[03:21] <keithhhhh> ikonia_:  I mean put Ubuntu on a separate partition?
[03:21] <thestriker> ikonia, just wanted to know if a good hub is out there..i had some problem with linuxdcpp(client)..in the sharing facility..when i share one particular folder it shares the whole drive
[03:21] <bryanl> can i remove mozilla-thunderbird without removing xubuntu-desktop?
[03:22] <ikonia_> thestriker hubs shouldn't matter as they are nothing to do with the OS's
[03:22] <ikonia_> bryanl yes, select it from synaptic and remove it
[03:22] <techie> Ikonia, i must have come across like a "duh" asking so many stupid questions and trying to survive the first few days as an Ubuntu user. Augh!! and double augh!
[03:23] <doctorow> ikonia Frogzoo I'm at the GRUB menu -- what do I do now?
[03:23] <thestriker> ikonia,  thanx
[03:23] <bryanl> ikonia_: nope, it still wants to remove xubuntu-desktop
[03:23] <techie> Ikonia there is a definite struglle for that first learning curve!
[03:23] <opetznick> hi i'm trying: mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/nfsroot /mnt/nfsroot and get mount: unknown filesystem type 'nfs' - do i have to enable something special?
[03:24] <keithhhhh> is it possible to make a dual boot vista / ubuntu system
[03:24] <Shane-S> http://www.pastebin.ca/383544 that is what I typed when I ran crontab -e, is that correct?
[03:26] <ikonia_> keithhhhh documents don't suggest otherwise that I've read
[03:27] <bryanl> keithhhhh: sure... just make sure to install vista first.  i don't see why you couldn't dual boot
[03:27] <rafa> hello
[03:28] <rafa> friends i have one question
[03:28] <pax> I for one welcome our vista overlords. don't know about grub.
[03:28] <doctorow> Frogzoo I think that the problem may be where it's asking me how much RAM to use; the spec-sheet says 256MB, so I typed in 256000 is that right?
[03:28] <ikonia_> bryanl well vista uses a different boot loader - so theres one possability bit documentation suggests it's possible
[03:28] <Askar> Helpp! I have no /etc/inittab :(
[03:28] <ikonia_> Askar create one
[03:28] <ikonia_> Askar are you using fesity still
[03:28] <ikonia_> (remembers this discussion )
[03:28] <bryanl> ikonia_: it doesn't matter. grub can compensate.  thats why i said install ubuntu second
[03:28] <Frogzoo> doctorow: just enter '256'
[03:28] <rafa> i installed ubuntu in my durun wit sis adapter video onboard
[03:29] <ikonia_> bryanl grub can compensate for a boot loader that wasn't written scince grub has been updated
[03:29] <rafa> but no function correct
[03:29] <doctorow> Frogzoo OK, that was my initial configuration
[03:29] <ikonia_> bryanl docs suggest it can but you need to tweak
[03:29] <ikonia_> bryanl but that is a risk
[03:29] <bryanl> ikonia_: i know how grub works, and grub can make vista boot
[03:29] <Askar> inkonia_: no now its feisty.. Is it that easy? I mean there must be something in the file, I dont know what?
[03:29] <ikonia_> bryanl great
[03:30] <ikonia_> Askar you asked about this the other day, fesity is in #ubuntu+1 and this is a known bug on the forums
[03:30] <Askar> ikonia_: sorry i meant edgy..
[03:30] <Askar> ikonia_: :(
[03:31] <ikonia_> Askar still a known problem, still available on the forums
[03:31] <ikonia_> Askar bottom line is "create one"
[03:31] <doctorow> Frogzoo OK, going to give up for now -- thanks for the help!
[03:33] <wo0lverine> hello
[03:33] <Askar> ikonia_: "It has do to with the fact that Ubuntu is replacing sysvinit with something new and shiny called upstart. "
[03:33] <ikonia_> nope
[03:33] <ikonia_> still need an inittab
[03:33] <simon__> hello
[03:33] <ikonia_> !upstart >askar
[03:33] <kane77> how do I redirect output of a process into a file while still having the output outputed in terminal? (so basicaly save a copy of it)
[03:33] <simon__> is here anybody who was installing ubuntu on virtual machine /
[03:34] <Askar> !upstart
[03:34] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[03:34] <ikonia_> kane77 tee
[03:34] <albacker> ## Checking for Gtk+ >= 2.6.0
[03:34] <albacker> pkg-config --atleast-version=2.6.0 gtk+-2.0
[03:34] <albacker> !! Please install Gtk+ 2.6.0 or above and the Gtk+ development files. Gtk+ can be
[03:34] <albacker> where do i find GTK+ >= 2.6.0 ?
[03:34] <ikonia_> albacker if its not in the repo - you'd have to build it, which may break gnome
[03:34] <kane77> ikonia_, thanx
[03:34] <ikonia_> albacker what are you trying to build
[03:34] <albacker> ikonia, thunar..
[03:35] <albacker> 0.8 needs GTK >=2.6.0 it look like i have an older version.
[03:35] <albacker> ikonia, how do i know my vers of GTK+ ?
[03:35] <ikonia_> albacker whats the problem with using the packaged version from ubuntu repo's ?
[03:35] <Crazytom> are there any wireless guru's around?
[03:35] <albacker> ikonia_, Toma told me it was an older version, and 0.8 is much more better.
[03:35] <asoldier> I came here to do two things, chew bubble gum and kick ass..... and I'm all out of bubble gum....
[03:36] <ikonia_> albacker well you risk breaking your system dependencies for your whole box, so its up to you
[03:36] <r_rehashed> how do I remove the icons of the Hard-disk partitions on my desktop, without unmounting the partitions?
[03:36] <Crazytom> i'm having trouble getting any of my wireless cards working
[03:36] <ikonia_> r_rehashed its a rare gconf2 setting
[03:36] <ikonia_> r_rehashed hidden away
[03:36] <r_rehashed> ok, ty
[03:37] <albacker> ikonia_, ill go for repo's one
[03:38] <tuxcrafter> does someone know how to unmount a dir with lufs ftpfs
[03:38] <r_rehashed> ikonia_: can I use `configuration editor' to edit gconf?
[03:38] <albacker> ikonia_, with thunar, looks much better. and yeah it worked :)
[03:39] <_Krull_> Can someone help me install a theme from a tgz file PLEASE
[03:39] <Crazytom> is ifconfig eth1 up not supposed to work on ubuntu?
[03:39] <dyrne> _Krull_: gtk theme?
[03:39] <_Krull_> file
[03:39] <KeeNaF> hi guys .. how to change the splash screen background? Splash screen that I mean is, when we enter user name and password, there will be a screen dat shows loading nautilus, etc .. I want to change the background not the image ... please help me
[03:39] <r_rehashed> ikonia_: when I search for `hidden away', it shows, `pattern not found'
[03:39] <_Krull_> yes
[03:39] <Lord_Maynoth> Does anyone here know if it is necessary to do a "sudo make install" instead of just "make install"
[03:41] <dyrne> _Krull_: unpack the file. in gnome ithink you can do this just by doubleclicking and using fileroller or whatever to open it and drag the directory to your desktop
[03:41] <Hantu_jeruk_nipi> halo
[03:41] <Matic`Makovec> Hey, guys. DOes anyone have an idea about this:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8934/ ?
[03:41] <dyrne> _Krull_: then open a terminal and type "cd ~/Desktop" hit enter and type sudo mv directoryname/ /usr/share/themes/  i believe
[03:42] <dyrne> _Krull_: not on ubuntu right now but i think /usr/share/themes/ is right
[03:42] <_Krull_> archive manager won't open it
[03:42] <Lord_Maynoth> what is the difference between "make clean" and make "uninstall"
[03:43] <erUSUL> Lord_Maynoth: clean rm's the object files and other intermediate files of the compilation form the source tree. uninstall does what it claims
[03:43] <LearningToFly> Where can i find IRC channel list &
[03:43] <dyrne> _Krull_: well do this first then "tar xfvz filename"
[03:43] <erUSUL> LearningToFly: of the whole freenode network? /list
[03:44] <Lord_Maynoth> erUSUL, can you "make uninstall" then "make clean"?
[03:44] <Robinsjostrom> if i have a hardrive with vista installed can i then install ubuntu on that disk and multiboot both vista and ubuntu?
[03:45] <zipito> hi! does ubuntu runs Oracle 10.2.0 ?
[03:46] <KeeNaF> hi guys .. how to change the splash screen background? Splash screen that I mean is, when we enter user name and password, there will be a screen dat shows loading nautilus, etc .. I want to change the background not the image ... please help me
[03:48] <erUSUL> Lord_Maynoth: it could be that the clean erases the info that the uninstall part needs to do its job
[03:48] <c03> video lags in fullscreen
[03:48] <c03> in vlc
[03:48] <c03> got intel graphics
[03:49] <Lord_Maynoth> erUSUL, Thanks
[03:49] <sky_walkie> hi KeeNaf - go to control Center -> Login Window -> Users and try change Default Face
[03:50] <Brendan1> Is there a way to install non-kernel upgrades, but hold back the new kernel?
[03:50] <c03> Can anoyone help me ?
[03:50] <Feliziano> hola
[03:50] <jo_> hello people :)
[03:50] <erUSUL> Lord_Maynoth: no problem
[03:50] <Feliziano> alguien habla castellano?
[03:51] <Shane-S> I need help my crontab job doesn't seem to be running, can anyone help me troubleshoot it?
[03:51] <erUSUL> !es | Feliziano
[03:51] <ubotu> Feliziano: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:51] <_Krull_> I done it but there are two files to choose from in 'install theme', one is gtk-2.0, and the other is a gzip file Cheetah-Overlaid.emerald
[03:51] <jo_> !es
[03:51] <Lord_Maynoth> !de
[03:51] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:51] <jo_> !e
[03:51] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[03:51] <jo_> !es
[03:51] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:52] <jo_> Feliziano: !es > Feliziano
[03:52] <Brendan1> castellano no es lo mismo que espanol
[03:52] <jo_> no
[03:52] <erUSUL> jo_: do not play here with the bot... use /msg ubotu es
[03:52] <jo_> !castellano
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about castellano - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <snille> !kiba-dock
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <jo_> erUSUL: not playing
[03:53] <erUSUL> Brendan1: really? and what is the difference?
[03:53] <snille> !kibadock
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kibadock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <Brendan1> they are related though, if s/he speaks castellano, he probably speaks spanish too
[03:53] <_Krull_> dynre, think you know what to instruct me now?
[03:54] <mmartinez> Sounds to me like Synaptic is the closest equivalent of "Add and Remove Programs" + "Program Files" in Windows.....is this a correct assumption?
[03:54] <erUSUL> Brendan1: i'm spanish from spain and i can tell you that both are the same :)
[03:54] <Brendan1> Really? I thought people who spoke castillian got really offended if you said they were
[03:54] <mmartinez> Brendan1....
[03:54] <Brendan1> maybe I'm thinking of catalan
[03:55] <jo_> Brendan1: castellano is spanish and you mean catalan?
[03:55] <NoWhereToTurn> 'Kernel panic - not syncing VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)' <--- after upgrading to 2.6.15-28-386  .. 2.6.15-26-386 boots fine
[03:55] <NoWhereToTurn> also noticed that the problem entries in Grub had no "initrd /initd.." lines.. even after adding them still no change
[03:55] <Lord_Maynoth> what are the implications of doing a "make install" without using "sudo"?
[03:56] <Brendan1> So...is it possible to get upgrades without upgrading the kernel? Or am I just stuck not upgrading?
[03:56] <mmartinez> Brendan....that is something I never understood....what differentiates Castellano from the Spanish I know (which is Mexican Spanish)?
[03:56] <jo_> i need to know how much VideoRAM my card has, where can i see it, under lspci -v????????
[03:56] <JohnRobert> mmartinez: do you know kirk martinez?
[03:57] <rlj> is there a way to tune the interval for kjournald accessing the drive (and what does it actually do? is it needed?) in order to be able to have my laptop drive spin down to save power?
[03:57] <voraistos> mmartinez the difference is in the accent
[03:57] <mmartinez> LOL.....accent?
[03:57] <Hoxzer> ~~
[03:57] <jo_> i need to know vram, what do i type in termina?????
[03:58] <voraistos> well, in Madrid the call it Madriz
[03:58] <erUSUL> !repeat > jo_
[03:58] <mmartinez> You mean...donde el acento suena en las palabras dichas or escritas?
[03:59] <voraistos> si, pero, sabes, no soy espanol at all dude
[03:59] <jo_> erUSUL: you wanna help or correct me? cause i'm not here for fun
[03:59] <jo_> erUSUL: aha, ok
[04:00] <mmartinez> Ubotu....are you around?
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about are you around? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <mmartinez> Oh...you a bot...
[04:01] <erUSUL> jo_: lspci -v | grep ' prefet*'
[04:01] <mmartinez> I wasn't aware of that...
[04:01] <Brendan1> !botsnack
[04:01] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:01] <Xif> what's a good distributed shell for Ubuntu?
[04:01] <jo_> erUSUL: thanks a lot man
[04:01] <mmartinez> BASH....
[04:01] <Khaatio> sh
[04:01] <mmartinez> it's Ubunt's default...que no?
[04:02] <Khaatio> the default is tcsh
[04:02] <voraistos> yeah wanna talk about bash ? im just compiling it :P
[04:02] <mmartinez> Khaatio...what is : tcsh?
[04:02] <Xif> yeah but it's not distributed
[04:02] <erUSUL> Khaatio: wrong it is bash or dash
[04:02] <Crazytom> iwconfig see's my wireless card but then it says "no such device"
[04:02] <BobZero> hi
[04:03] <BobZero> i tried to install openssh
[04:03] <Crazytom> can someone please give me a hand?
[04:03] <voraistos> hmm if i remember they made dash standard in ubuntu, not bash anymore
[04:03] <ikonia_> Crazytom then it doesn't see your card
[04:03] <ikonia_> voraistos yup, spot on its dash
[04:03] <Crazytom> it gives me stats on it
[04:03] <erUSUL> voraistos: only for /bin/sh the login shell it's still bash afaik
[04:03] <BobZero> but the configure cant finde an acceptable c compiler
[04:03] <voraistos> stupid imho
[04:03] <ikonia_> erUSUL ahh so sh is a sylink to dash, but basj is still bash
[04:04] <Crazytom> also i see it in the network settings gui
[04:04] <ikonia_> BobZero is a c compiler installed
[04:04] <ikonia_> Crazytom so configure it in the gui
[04:04] <killown> I have erased gub but now I want to install again and I dont get I have ubuntu live disc....  I need  grub again please help -me
[04:04] <Brendan1> I thought bash was the standard for just about all Linux
[04:04] <voraistos> to exec configure you better use bash
[04:04] <ikonia_> killown without a live cd - you cannot do anything
[04:04] <BobZero> how i can check if a comlpiler is installed?
[04:04] <killown> I have  tried grub-install /dev/hda it dont work
[04:04] <ikonia_> Brendan1 its the most popular
[04:04] <Crazytom> it wont connect
[04:04] <ikonia_> !grub >killown
[04:04] <killown> ikonia, but I have live cd
[04:04] <erUSUL> ikonia_: afaics yes you can do sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash to make sh point to bash
[04:04] <killown> ikonia, !grub help dont help
[04:05] <voraistos> apt-get install build-essential      for a nice c compiler :)
[04:05] <killown> I do update-grub
[04:05] <erUSUL> BobZero: install build-essential
[04:05] <killown> it dont work
[04:05] <ikonia_> killown why not
[04:05] <ikonia_> killown why doesn't that help
[04:05] <ikonia_> killown what errors do you get
[04:05] <BobZero> i dont understand
[04:05] <killown> why I follow tutorial and dont get sucess
[04:05] <Crazytom> ikonia it won't connect to my network
[04:05] <killown> ikonia, /dev/hda not exist
[04:06] <mmartinez> maybe the nic is fine....
[04:06] <voraistos> /dev/hdb then
[04:06] <killown> how I set grub to mbr? then?
[04:06] <mmartinez> maybe it's your access point....
[04:06] <voraistos> or hdc, hdd, etc ..
[04:06] <killown> voraistos, too not exist
[04:06] <Crazytom> i've actually tried two and windows
[04:06] <killown> nothing hd* exist
[04:06] <ikonia_> killown is your primary boot disk /dev/hda ?
[04:06] <erUSUL> killown: have you checked the wiki page ubotu send you??
[04:06] <killown> ikonia, yes
[04:06] <voraistos> hey you mean in grub ?
[04:06] <voraistos> doesnt work like that.
[04:06] <ikonia_> killown and on the livecd /dev/hda doesn't exist ?
[04:06] <killown> yes
[04:06] <killown> dont exist
[04:07] <killown> how I do to create /dev/hda?
[04:07] <killown> I need mbr
[04:07] <voraistos> they call it hd(0,0) for hda i think
[04:07] <Crazytom> both my wireless cards showed up without ndiswrapper but neither worked so i installed it
[04:07] <ikonia_> killown if your disk is /dev/hda and its not seen on the live cd - either your disk is broke or your ide chipset is not supported
[04:07] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone know any way to make a deb file other than checkinstall?
[04:07] <voraistos> or he dsnt have ide
[04:08] <killown> ikonia, but I can mount /dev/hda3 << too not exist
[04:08] <ikonia_> Lord_Maynoth yup but its long
[04:08] <ikonia_> killown fdisk -l /dev/hda please
[04:08] <killown> however I can to mount
[04:08] <ikonia_> killown sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[04:08] <killown> but I am not in linux now
[04:08] <killown> sorry
[04:08] <ikonia_> killown forget it then
[04:08] <Lord_Maynoth> ikonia, is their a guide for it?  I would really love to make this program I compiled into a deb but checkinstall can't do it
[04:08] <killown> ok
[04:09] <ikonia_> Lord_Maynoth there is but I don't have access to the web at this moment
[04:09] <c03> can anyone help with ubuntu fullscreen xgl lag problem???
[04:09] <ikonia_> Lord_Maynoth so I can't search for you
[04:09] <killown> ikonia, I have installed windows xp and it erased grub
[04:09] <ikonia_> killown yes, I understand that
[04:09] <killown> have huge problem
[04:09] <ikonia_> killown no you don't
[04:09] <B|00d|u5T> what up all
[04:09] <voraistos> killown yeah. dont install malware anymore please
[04:09] <Lord_Maynoth> ikonia, what should I search for I will be happy to :)
[04:09] <ikonia_> Lord_Maynoth debian deb packaging - something like that
[04:10] <B|00d|u5T> im tryin to get a runnable dvd burning proggie i tried k9copy and it freezes up everytime i clik the open folder any other dvd copying proggie ideas?
[04:10] <voraistos> Lord* if you go on the ubuntu help page, they have a tutorial
[04:10] <B|00d|u5T> sorry wrong chan
[04:10] <killown> ikonia, I too tried to install grub in /dev/fd0 My floopy disc but /dev/fd0 also not exist
[04:11] <Lord_Maynoth> ikonia, thanks
[04:11] <B|00d|u5T> well w8 thats a ubuntu question
[04:11] <voraistos> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/
[04:11] <ikonia_> killown you don't install grub to /dev/X  grub works in a different way, which is you had read the docs you said you had you would know
[04:11] <killown> ok
[04:11] <B|00d|u5T> dosnt grub install to root
[04:11] <B|00d|u5T> ?
[04:11] <Crazytom> what's about the best time to come here for help because I see it is way too crowded and there are too many people asking questions and too few people with the knowledge.  oh and I have to leave.  thanks for the help i did get  i'll be back later
[04:12] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T what ?
[04:12] <ikonia_> Crazytom its always like this
[04:12] <Crazytom> ikonia really?
[04:12] <ikonia_> Crazytom this is quiet
[04:12] <voraistos> usually its worse
[04:12] <B|00d|u5T> ikonia -- i tried usin k9copy to copy dvds and it freezes up when i click open.... any idas of other good dvd copiers
[04:13] <B|00d|u5T> Crazytom -- i was on here late last night askin a million questions and im here early this mourn lol
[04:13] <B|00d|u5T> thats just me ;0)
[04:13] <voraistos> i created a personnal channel to help people when its too crowded
[04:13] <SoulChild> HEY ALL: short question: do i need the Sources in me repositories ?
[04:13] <voraistos> nope
[04:13] <voraistos> but they can be usefull
[04:13] <SoulChild> for ?
[04:13] <voraistos> compiling stuff :)
[04:13] <B|00d|u5T> SoulChild - you need to add under 3rd party tab in Software Sorces
[04:13] <Crazytom> i have to go climbing now, so I guess i'll come back tommorow morning to get my wireless fixed
[04:14] <B|00d|u5T> system/admin/software sources
[04:14] <B|00d|u5T> thrird party tab
[04:14] <Kronuz> morning
[04:14] <Khaatio> night
[04:14] <B|00d|u5T> and type deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb
[04:14] <B|00d|u5T> and add
[04:14] <B|00d|u5T> and
[04:14] <Khaatio> don't morning
[04:15] <Kronuz> hey, I have a GeForce 6600 but I can't select my monitor's native resolution (1280x1024), does anybody know how can I activate the option?
[04:15] <Khaatio> use old video card
[04:16] <B|00d|u5T> then
[04:16] <ikonia_> Kronuz are you using the nvidia drivers ?
[04:16] <Kronuz> I have a ViewSonic VX922 LCD monitor
[04:16] <Kronuz> ikonia_: I think I am
[04:16] <B|00d|u5T> add this one 2   deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org
[04:16] <ikonia_> Kronuz what do you mean - are you yes or no, did you install them ? did you configure them ?
[04:16] <Kronuz> ikonia_, I got them and Beryl
[04:16] <B|00d|u5T> add this too   deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org
[04:16] <Kronuz> ikonia_, with a script that said it would install NVIDIA drivers
[04:16] <ikonia_> Kronuz beryl has nothing to do with this, why are you trying to mess with beryl when you havn't sorted your video cards out
[04:17] <ikonia_> Kronuz what script ?
[04:17] <Kronuz> and when I start X it says NVIDIA
[04:17] <B|00d|u5T> any suggestions on Ubuntu dvd copying, im assuming you have seen my prob with k9copy
[04:17] <ikonia_> Kronuz thats a good sign
[04:17] <marin> http://wimaxequipment.blogspot.com/
[04:17] <Khaatio> use general nvidia driver
[04:17] <Kronuz> ikonia_, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA
[04:17] <Kronuz> that's where I found the script
[04:17] <ikonia_> Kronuz ughhhhh
[04:17] <ikonia_> !nvidia >Kronuz
[04:18] <Khaatio> ugh
[04:18] <ikonia_> Kronuz read that link - forget beryl for the moment and try those instructions
[04:18] <Kronuz> ikonia_, which instructions?
[04:18] <Kronuz> oh
[04:18] <ikonia_> !nvidia >Kronuz
[04:18] <Kronuz> :)
[04:18] <Kronuz> thanks
[04:18] <ikonia_> no problem
[04:18] <B|00d|u5T> ikonia -- any suggestions on dvd copy software for ubuntu?
[04:19] <ikonia_> Kronuz waslk before running
[04:19] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T what about it
[04:19] <B|00d|u5T> ikonia - - i tried k9copy but it freezes everything when i click open..
[04:19] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T and..... ?
[04:19] <aKKiLLa> Hey guys, I want to resize my ubuntu pqartiton and install windows xp on a small part of my drive so I can run this custom app for my company.    Is there an easy way to install windows on my ubuntu comp and still get the dual bot options?
[04:20] <ikonia_> aKKiLLa install windows, then ubuntu - dead easy
[04:20] <B|00d|u5T> ikonia -- i need one that dosn't freez up when i click open to select a dvd then shut down :)
[04:20] <aKKiLLa> yeah not what I want to do
[04:20] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T search synaptic for the programs then
[04:20] <aKKiLLa> maybe what I need to do
[04:20] <robdeman> hi folks.. how can I make a backup.tar.gz from directory 'mydirectory' and then skip all .mpg files in 'mydirectory' ?
[04:20] <Jowi> aKKiLLa, windows will overwrite your grub.
[04:20] <Khaatio> first you have to delete the partition
[04:20] <ikonia_> aKKiLLa ok - install windows, then re-install grub
[04:20] <LINCE3> hello people
[04:20] <Jowi> !grub | aKKiLLa
[04:20] <ubotu> aKKiLLa: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:20] <phaedrus444> ello..anyone here have the z810 cups driver for lexmark printers?..apparently the website to get is down...been trying for like a week
[04:20] <aKKiLLa> thanks
[04:20] <B|00d|u5T> ikonia -- thats my question.. i dont know any names of the burning programs except that one
[04:20] <LINCE3> I have some problems installing edgy
[04:20] <Nitro> I got to ask..
[04:20] <aKKiLLa> I was wondering how hard getting grub reinstalled
[04:20] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T search for"dvd"
[04:21] <Nitro> For a laptop, what's best, Gnome or KDE?
[04:21] <B|00d|u5T> k sorry didn't konw that'd werk
[04:21] <aKKiLLa> wow awsome... thanks for the link
[04:21] <LINCE3> the process crash at 82% (scanning mirror)
[04:21] <Kronuz> ikonia_, hey, by the way, I tried to activate the other repositories in the package manager... and I was getting a weird error during refresh... something like it couldn't lock the directory or something
[04:21] <PipIWYG> Hi Guys... I get the following error when I launch the installer
[04:21] <LINCE3> "configuring apt"
[04:21] <LINCE3> how can I skip this step?
[04:22] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T well you didn't try very hard,just brough up 5 apps for me
[04:22] <ikonia_> 6 apps sorry
[04:23] <B|00d|u5T> ikonia_ -- really???? whats their names i see no dvd copying programs
[04:23] <ikonia_> search
[04:23] <ikonia_> enable repo's and search
[04:23] <aKKiLLa> what is the tool to resize partition?
[04:23] <LjL> !gparted
[04:23] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:23] <ikonia_> aKKiLLa gparted
[04:23] <PipIWYG> Hi Guys... I get the following error when I launch the installer: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: The remote application did not send a reply. The message bus security policy blocked the reply. The reply timeout expired or the network connection was broken. Gnome will still try to restart the settings dameon, next time you log in
[04:24] <aKKiLLa> danx
[04:24] <techie> trying to help a friend to try ubuntu liveced, everytime he reboots his windows the it overpasses ubuntu and goes back to windows. What can I tell him to do to insure that ubuntu will load up?
[04:24] <B|00d|u5T> i got dvdr+Rw tools and all those shits but you cant copy a dvd with them shits
[04:24] <ikonia_> aKKiLLa boot fromthe cd
[04:24] <LjL> techie: go into the BIOS and select the CD as the first boot medium?
[04:24] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T I don't need to see the lanague
[04:24] <aKKiLLa> ok
[04:24] <ikonia_> techie that was mean for you not aKKiLLa
[04:24] <B|00d|u5T> k
[04:25] <techie> Ikonia...are we talking about the livecd question?
[04:25] <techie> ok
[04:25] <ikonia_> techie yes, make sure the bios is set to boot fromthe cd
[04:25] <ikonia_> as ljl suggested
[04:25] <techie> i will tell him that .
[04:25] <mweichert_> does anyone else has problems with rdesktop after upgrading to feisty fawn?
[04:25] <Matic`Makovec> Hey, guys. DOes anyone have an idea about this:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8934/ ?
[04:26] <ikonia_> mweichert_ you'll get a better response in #ubuntu+1
[04:26] <B|00d|u5T> i just dont understand why you cant help man i asked for the name of a program.. and instead you find the answer to my question evidentally 6 answers and dont tell me the name sorry getting a bit frustrated i wouldn't be asking you if i hand't already looked thats why i need help.....
[04:26] <mweichert_> rdesktop is now *painlessly* slow
[04:26] <mweichert_> ikonia: oh okay thanks
[04:26] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T I'm trying to teach you how to do things yourself - rather than be spoonfed
[04:26] <B|00d|u5T> i appreciate it
[04:26] <B|00d|u5T> but i know how to search in synaptic package manager
[04:26] <B|00d|u5T> i had to install beryl
[04:26] <Kronuz> hey, I have an AMD Athlon 64 X2 processor and I'm using 32 bit Ubuntu, should I get linux-image-386 or linux-image-686?
[04:26] <B|00d|u5T> and ran ubuntu for almost 2 years
[04:26] <SaLoMoN> Kronuz,
[04:26] <B|00d|u5T> just got a dvd burner a year ago
[04:27] <SaLoMoN> try k8
[04:27] <xopher> Kronuz, just get the -generic
[04:27] <SaLoMoN> or k7
[04:27] <Kronuz> o_O
[04:27] <SaLoMoN> or generic
[04:27] <SaLoMoN> ..
[04:27] <B|00d|u5T> was running windows for the past year cuz i could never find software with ubuntu that acutally worked to COPY dvds
[04:27] <B|00d|u5T> that was my question
[04:27] <seb-_> hello, does anyone know whether there is a support for the nforce 570 ultra chipset in ubuntu 6.10?
[04:27] <Kronuz> :P
[04:27] <Kronuz> I think it's already installed then
[04:27] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T you can't know how to search - if I get 6 apps and you get nothing
[04:28] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T enable the repo's and search
[04:28] <ikonia_> they may not be of any use to you, but at least try them see if they are what you want
[04:28] <Surb> what can I use to resize my / partition?
[04:28] <PipIWYG> Yea, I have to agree... getting help in this place is absoluetly ridiculous.I don't know why they even have this irc channel on the darn web site... it's filled with a bunch or arrogant "we know it all, and you can figure it out for yourself" people
[04:28] <B|00d|u5T> is there a repository address i need to add besieds the beryl repos i added to install it?
[04:28] <ikonia_> PipIWYG if its that bad - don'task
[04:29] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T all the ubuntu ones are a good start
[04:29] <ikonia_> PipIWYG on the other hand the people asking the questions could be people who refuse to read the documents to understand the basics
[04:29] <ikonia_> PipIWYG which makes people who can help not want to spoon feed them the answer
[04:30] <old_cymuHep>  !
[04:30] <old_cymuHep> !GD
[04:30] <Robinsjostrom> one spoon for mommy, one spoon for daddy........
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:30] <B|00d|u5T> see i was usin vobcopy but you gotta interlace the video and audio b4 u burn when u use that prog
[04:30] <robper> I've got Ubuntu 6.10 so I can boot from a kingston USB key.. but I can't seem to get the network up and running.. care to give me some suggestions? DHCP btw
[04:30] <ikonia_> !ru >old_cymuHep
[04:30] <old_cymuHep> !gd
[04:30] <osghaier> salut
[04:30] <JHSands> Hello all. I am looking at the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport page and wondering what wireless card (WPA2 capable) is recommended for "out of the box"
[04:30] <ikonia_> robper can you see eth0 ? or the network card in the network config gui
[04:30] <old_cymuHep> ikonia_
[04:30] <old_cymuHep> ????
[04:30] <old_cymuHep> LOL
[04:30] <leros> My pointer bounces when I put it near the edge of my screen. Is there anyway to stop this? Its causing problems for synergy.
[04:30] <ikonia_> old_cymuHep what ?
[04:31] <Dr_willis> leros,  bounces?
[04:31] <old_cymuHep> ikonia_ so what i am rus?
[04:31] <osghaier> hello
[04:31] <Kronuz> ikonia_, I have the nvidia-gfx installed and running
[04:31] <old_cymuHep> ikonia_ i dont need that channel
[04:31] <ikonia_> old_cymuHep my mistake
[04:31] <zero-9376> does anyone know if its possible to return a remote app (from putty) to the local display?
[04:31] <osghaier> i am french
[04:31] <Kronuz> ikonia_, then how come I can't select the 1280x1024 resolution?
[04:31] <leros> dr_willis, like it bounces a few pixels of the edge. Instead of just sitting there
[04:31] <old_cymuHep> ikonia_ ;)
[04:32] <ikonia_> zero-9376 you need a local X server running on windows
[04:32] <Matic`Makovec> Hey, guys. Does anyone have an idea about this:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8934/ ?
[04:32] <ikonia_> Kronuz do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and see whats available
[04:32] <Dr_willis> zero-9376,  you mean have a X aplication jump from a X display on  one machine, and reappear on a 2nd machine?
[04:32] <old_cymuHep> !gd-lib
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gd-lib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <JHSands> !wireless
[04:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:32] <Kronuz> ikonia_, I'm there, what's next? select nvidia driver?
[04:33] <zero-9376> i have an app on windows through ssh and xming (xserver) but want to send it back to the local display
[04:33] <Dr_willis> leros,   not sure ive ever seen it do that.  You could try some other window manager as a test. to see if it has a similer effect.  It may be some effect of a gnome setting to auto switch desktops, or window border settings./
[04:33] <Kronuz> (vesa is selected by default)
[04:33] <ikonia_> Kronuz yup, the menu should walk you through it
[04:33] <ikonia_> leros you need an X server running on your local machine
[04:33] <Kronuz> ikonia_, okay, let me see... thanks :)
[04:34] <leros> ikonia_, what do you mean?
[04:34] <ikonia_> leros is your local machine windows ?
[04:34] <Kronuz> ikonia_, now it's asking me for the bus identifier :S
[04:34] <leros> my local machine is windows running the synergy server, ubuntu is the client.
[04:34] <ikonia_> Kronuz that should be fine
[04:34] <Kronuz> the default one?
[04:35] <ikonia_> Kronuz yes - it should be filled in already
[04:35] <zero-9376> anyone know anything about this
[04:35] <Kronuz> how much RAM should I use?
[04:35] <Kronuz> (I have 2 Gigs in my PC)
[04:35] <ikonia_> leros so you will need an X server on your windows client to export X11 apps to your dkestop
[04:35] <ikonia_> Kronuz leave it blank
[04:35] <Kronuz> ok
[04:35] <Kronuz> :S
[04:36] <JHSands> has anyone used a 3Ware 8006 Sata controller ?
[04:36] <leros> i dont want to to do that. I just want to be able to use my mouse and keyboard on both machines.
[04:36] <ikonia_> JHSands I think so - hang on
[04:36] <ikonia_> lerosyou need a KVM
[04:36] <Kronuz> ikonia_, should I use framebuffer?
[04:36] <ikonia_> Kronuz nah
[04:36] <dyrne> zero-9376: you want to xforward something?
[04:36] <Chai_Sangeen> hello everybody
[04:36] <ikonia_> leros  you need a kvm
[04:36] <krawallequalle> the internet is for chilporn and terrorism.
[04:36] <zero-9376> say i have azureus running over ssh on my windows machine can i send it to the local/server display?
[04:36] <B|00d|u5T> ikonia -- didn't mean to have an attitude w u bro, jus a lil frustrated and tired
[04:37] <Chai_Sangeen> can anyone help me out with sql-ledger i installed it but i don;t see any files on the /var/www/
[04:37] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T I'm frustrated of helping people who can't be bothered, thats why I don't spoon feed
[04:37] <ikonia_> takl of spoonfeeding, here we go again
[04:37] <leros> ikonia_ im using synergy right now and it works fine. i know what im doing
[04:37] <ikonia_> leros I may have got your question mixed up with someone elses - sorry
[04:37] <ikonia_> leros channel is moving fast
[04:38] <leros> ikonia_ is ok
[04:38] <Brendan1> Does anyone know how to get the visualizers goom of galaktos working in VLC? Are they not compiled in the default VLC package? Do I have to recompile VLC?
[04:38] <Brendan1> *goom or galaktos
[04:39] <zero-9376> nobody? i have cant find anything on google regarding this
[04:39] <ikonia_> zero-9376 what do you want
[04:39] <B|00d|u5T> ikonia_ - im installin gnomebaker im guessin i can copy with it
[04:40] <Kronuz> ikonia_, now I'm in the part it's asking me about my monitor's refresh rates
[04:40] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T yup, thats not bad
[04:40] <Kronuz> it's a LCD monitor
[04:40] <poogle> my X only looks good the first time running after a reboot. after the first time, the resolution is huge. what would cause this?
[04:40] <ikonia_> Kronuz just continue on
[04:40] <B|00d|u5T> right on
[04:40] <|thunder> AT&T just called here, some jack ass was try to tell he they had 6 GigaByte high speed. i was like "try again."
[04:40] <zero-9376> i have an app in a remote session (via ssh with xming) and want to 'export' the app back to the main display
[04:40] <ikonia_> zero-9376 ok
[04:40] <ikonia_> zero-9376 whats not clear
[04:40] <Kronuz> ikonia_, now I should just restart X, right?
[04:41] <ikonia_> Kronuz yeah
[04:41] <Kronuz> ctrl+alt+bksp
[04:41] <Kronuz> brb
[04:41] <zero-9376> i dont know how to export the application back without killing it
[04:41] <ikonia_> zero-9376 your not going to be able to as its running on a remote X server you really need to do it before launching the app
[04:42] <|thunder> Kronuz; ther are safer ways of restarting X. like /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:43] <B|00d|u5T> sweet
[04:43] <zero-9376> so i cant 'move' a running app...what i want to do is start a torrent program on my laptop remotely then send it back without killing the torrent program
[04:43] <|thunder> Kronuz; but its best to logout of X first
[04:43] <Kronuz> ikonia_, well, the resolution worked (although it's using 50Hz, and I believe my LCD's is 60Hz)
[04:43] <B|00d|u5T> supposobly its copying the dvd now
[04:43] <ikonia_> |thunder that doesn't restart X - just gdm
[04:43] <B|00d|u5T> lets see
[04:43] <|thunder> wrong
[04:43] <ikonia_> Kronuz well thats a start
[04:43] <B|00d|u5T> if ubuntu runs this good while burning i will be very impressed
[04:43] <ikonia_> |thunder really, I'm surprised, but fair enough
[04:43] <Kronuz> but beryl is not working now :(
[04:43] <ikonia_> Kronuz of course its not
[04:43] <Kronuz> oh
[04:43] <ikonia_> Kronuz you need to configure beryl again
[04:43] <|thunder> B|00d|u5T; then why does it restart my nvidia driver ?  its all of X, not just the greeter.
[04:44] <Kronuz> hmm... I didn't configure it last time, I just used the script I told you about
[04:44] <ikonia_> !beryl >Kronuz
[04:44] <ikonia_> there you go
[04:44] <ikonia_> Kronuz also check the ubuntu wiki - great info on there
[04:44] <JHSands> ikonia: this is the only thing I have found regarding the 3ware SATA: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/3ware_9500
[04:44] <JHSands> but mine is an 8006
[04:44] <ikonia_> JHSandsI forgot abotu you - sorry hang on a minute
[04:44] <ikonia_> JHSands let me check minue
[04:45] <Jowi> B|00d|u5T, |thunder: "pstree" is a nice command. let's you know which parent process own which child. gdm -> Xorg
[04:45] <Jowi> gdm starts Xorg
[04:46] <ikonia_> JHSandssorry mine is a 9xxxx too
[04:46] <JHSands> thanks for your time ikonia :)
[04:46] <ikonia_> wt8008:0c.0 RAID bus controller: 3ware Inc 9xxx-series SATA-RAID
[04:46] <ikonia_> JHSands sorry I forgot about you
[04:47] <larsivi> I just dist-upgraded to Feisty, but seems to not get proper dns - only thing I'm getting to is Freenode :P
[04:48] <Robinsjostrom> larsivi: wow almost totaly isolated
[04:48] <B|00d|u5T> darn gnomebaker isn't werkin either
[04:48] <ikonia_> larsivi 1.) does disupgrade move to fesity - I didn't think it did 2.) fesity support is in #ubuntu+1 3.) if you can resolve freenode then you have name resolvutioneither via dns or the hsots file
[04:49] <techie_> What a good resource/book for learning the Linux language?
[04:50] <thestriker> i have put 7 gb on the root system and 2 gb on the home..does this mean my /home is on the 2 gb
[04:50] <larsivi> ikonia_: thanks, will check out the other channel (but was able to dist-upgrade, yes :) )
[04:50] <Robinsjostrom> thestriker: yes
[04:50] <killermach> I installed avidemux w/ synaptic and I see that it installed file /usr/share/menu/avidemux  but I don't see it on my menu.. how do I get it on the Applications menu?
[04:51] <B|00d|u5T> hrmmmm could all thsee errors b becuz i never mounted my cdrom drive
[04:51] <B|00d|u5T> or does it automatically do that
[04:51] <B|00d|u5T> on install
[04:51] <B|00d|u5T> hrmm
[04:51] <thestriker> Robinsjostrom, how many gbs have u kept 4 ur root system?
[04:51] <Robinsjostrom> thestriker: i use vista =P
[04:51] <dustin_> help i crashed my x server when upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10 what do i do
[04:51] <thestriker> Robinsjostrom, sorry..but ur on the ubuntu forums right?
[04:52] <Robinsjostrom> thestriker: yea im just reading and helping if i can
[04:52] <Heavenquake> Some time ago, I stumbled upon an aptitude/apt-get command that downloaded all files needed to build a given package. Like headerfiles 'nd such.. I don't remember what the command was?
[04:52] <psynaps3> how do i create a vcd from dat files? which tool should i use?
[04:52] <thestriker> Robinsjostrom, ok so now u have upgraded to vista from ubuntu..do i get it right?
[04:53] <zero-9376> Heavenquake: build-essentials
[04:53] <thestriker> Robinsjostrom: wat i wanna ask is how much did u keep when u used to use?
[04:53] <thestriker> i have kept 7 gb and i am having problems now
[04:53] <dyrne> dustin_: alt-ctrl-f2 then login then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  choose the defautl options and select vesa as your driver. or just sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf    and scroll down to Driver nv or ati or nvidia and change to Driver "vesa"
[04:53] <Robinsjostrom> thefish: what kind of problems are you having?
[04:53] <Heavenquake> zero-9376: Not that. I mean, in order to for example build KDevelop from source, then there were some command to download all files needed to build that certain package
[04:54] <techie_> !linux
[04:54] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[04:54] <|thunder> thanks Jowi , and i was right, restarting gdm restarts X
[04:54] <B|00d|u5T> none of these programs are working for copying dvds
[04:54] <heinz55> http://www.drogendealer.de/cgi-bin/dd.cgi?z8nBe44s
[04:55] <dyrne> Heavenquake: like apt-get -b source packagename ?
[04:55] <zero-9376> Heavenquake: do you mean apt-get source
[04:55] <|thunder> B|00d|u5T; nope, it suxx, you have to run dvdshrink under wine
[04:55] <B|00d|u5T> |thunder -- do u konw of a page explaining how to install wine?
[04:56] <|thunder> its easy
[04:56] <ikonia_> !ine B|00d|u5T
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ine b - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <|thunder> hang
[04:56] <B|00d|u5T> |thunder - - does it @#$# up ubuntu to install wine?
[04:56] <zero-9376> so does anyone know about what i should do to send a running remote app to local x server
[04:56] <Heavenquake> I don't mean the sourcefiles for the package. I mean the libs(kdelibs etc etc.) and tools (autoconf etc. etc.) needed to build the package source.
[04:56] <ikonia_> !wine >!B|00d|ust
[04:56] <cjvail13> i need help with my screen resolution.  it gives me three options but the three it gives me are not the ones that i need
[04:56] <|thunder> B|00d|u5T; no
[04:56] <dyrne> zero-9376: id like to know that too if you figure it out
[04:56] <B|00d|u5T> awesome
[04:56] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T just sent you the doc on how to install it
[04:56] <ikonia_> zero-9376 I've told you - you can't
[04:57] <zero-9376> Heavenquake: the package-dev files?
[04:57] <|thunder> B|00d|u5T; http://www.winehq.com/site/download
[04:57] <B|00d|u5T> sweet
[04:57] <Kronuz> ikonia_, now, what about the refresh being 50Hz instead of 60Hz?
[04:57] <psynaps3> how do i create a vcd from dat files? which tool should i use?
[04:57] <|thunder> B|00d|u5T; just install it from repo and winecfg
[04:57] <zero-9376> ikonia sorry didnt see that
[04:57] <ikonia_> Kronuz you can set it manually int he xorg.conf if you are confident
[04:58] <Jowi> Kronuz, you can set Vertrefresh to "60" instead of the range that is there if you want to force it to a specifig refresh rate in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:58] <Jowi> Kronuz, recommended to backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf first
[04:59] <cjvail13> can someone help me
[05:00] <DARKGuy> !ask
[05:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:00] <ikonia_> ask the question, and we'll know
[05:00] <francois> cjvail13: can't help you if you don't ask
[05:00] <Kronuz> Jowi, there's a range there (43-60)
[05:00] <zero-9376> ok what about launching an app and then having it continue running if i close the terminal?
[05:00] <ikonia_> I'm getting so fed up of "can you help me"
[05:00] <Kronuz> should I just change it to 60?
[05:00] <francois> ikonia_: agreed
[05:00] <ikonia_> zero-9376 & nohup
[05:00] <ranphatje> Question: I have a PCMCIA Sitecom firewire card. Now ubuntu detects the card but when i plug in a HDD is resets the bus id and doesn't work anymore. Now i wanting to buy a USB 2.0 PCMCIA card and want to buy a good one that works with ubunut flawless. any sugesstions?
[05:00] <Jowi> Kronuz, yep. might work.
[05:00] <cjvail13> i have asked but no one has responded.  i need help with my screen resolution
[05:01] <Kronuz> also, I was wondering, can I activate my fourth and fifth buttons in my mouse?
[05:01] <DARKGuy> zero-9376: put a & after the command and close the terminal typing "exit" instead of closing the terminal with the X button
[05:01] <Kronuz> like for back/forward
[05:01] <ikonia_> cjvail13 what version of ubunut, what video card and what resolution do you want
[05:01] <zero-9376> DISPLAY=:0 nohup /opt/azureus/azureus runs azureus but then it dies when i close the terminal
[05:01] <Kronuz> (to use in firefox)
[05:01] <dyrne> cjvail13: people here have become a little jaded last year or so :) please restate the problem in full
[05:01] <ikonia_> zero-9376 & at the end
[05:01] <ikonia_> dyrne no one is jaded - don't cast distpurtion
[05:02] <cjvail13> version 6.10, geforce and 1280 x 720
[05:02] <crund> cast distpurtion?
[05:02] <ikonia_> cjvail13 what video card
[05:02] <crund> cast aspertions, maybe?
[05:02] <zero-9376> thanks
[05:02] <dyrne> ikonia_: well i am. jaded that is :)
[05:02] <cjvail13> geforce 7300gt sorry
[05:02] <ikonia_> crund does someone aspire to be jaded ?
[05:02] <ikonia_> cjvail13 have you installed the nvidia drivers ?
[05:02] <cjvail13> yes
[05:02] <ikonia_> DARKGuy genius
[05:02] <crund> lol, or aspersions, at least
[05:02] <ikonia_> cjvail13 are you using them
[05:02] <DARKGuy> ikonia_ thanks xD
[05:02] <cjvail13> how do i do that
[05:03] <ikonia_> cjvail13 !nvidia >cjvail13 read that doc it explains how to set them up
[05:03] <ikonia_> oops
[05:03] <ikonia_> !nvidia >cjvail13
[05:03] <ikonia_> cjvail13 read that link
[05:03] <cjvail13> ok
[05:04] <Dr_willis> House cleaning day. :)
[05:04] <frankzhao> is there any software like netants, by which I can download software in ubuntu?
[05:04] <Dr_willis> frankzhao,  whats netants?
[05:04] <ikonia_> frankzhao don't know wnat netants is
[05:04] <Dr_willis> i doubt if any of us do. :)
[05:04] <Dr_willis> I use the package managers - they download the stuff i want to install
[05:04] <crund> it's a hot game, like nethack, but with ants
[05:04] <El_Burro> do you have to install XP first if you want to dual boot it with Ubuntu?
[05:05] <Dr_willis> El_Burro,  thats best.
[05:05] <ikonia_> crund you'll gave to google
[05:05] <B|00d|u5T> yezzzir
[05:05] <B|00d|u5T> comin down @ 350kbs
[05:05] <El_Burro> cheers
[05:05] <crund> ikonia i've told you what it is
[05:05] <crund> next!
[05:05] <kash> wtf
[05:05] <ikonia_> crund I know, and I said you'll have to google
[05:05] <kash> linux kernel has DRM?
[05:05] <phaedrus444> help!...i need cups driver for lexmark   z810  !
[05:05] <ikonia_> kash ~I don't need to see that implied lanaguage
[05:05] <phaedrus444> : )
[05:05] <crund> ikonia i don't have to google anything
[05:05] <kash> ikonia_: wtf?
[05:05] <ikonia_> crund if you want to find it - I suggest you do
[05:06] <kash> or DRM
[05:06] <kash> both of which are evil
[05:06] <ikonia_> kash the first
[05:06] <kash> why does the linux kernel have DRM?
[05:06] <ikonia_> kash I'm surprised by the DRM though, explain
[05:06] <frankzhao> it is a software in windows; using it, you can continue to download from the last place I have failed
[05:06] <crund> ikonia um, there's nothing I want to find, nor did I request any information
[05:06] <PecisDarbs> how to see contents of deb package?
[05:06] <B|00d|u5T> soo how does it work with wine? do i just dl the ms versino of a program and just run the executeable or what?
[05:06] <crund> ikonia or you just like spewing out non-sequiturs?
[05:06] <kash>   CC [M]   drivers/char/drm/drm_context.o
[05:06] <ikonia_> crund sorry wrong nick - channel is moving fast, thought you wanted netants
[05:06] <francois> B|00d|u5T: just wine program.exe
[05:06] <crund> ikonia ok, i've decided to forgive you
[05:07] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T I sent you the link - do you see why people get fed up with helping you
[05:07] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T the link explains it and you've STILL not read it and just in here
[05:07] <Alam_Ubuntu> kash, do you mean "Direct Rendering Manager"
[05:07] <ikonia_> crund ta
[05:07] <B|00d|u5T> ikonia i read it
[05:07] <Dr_willis> frankzhao,  thers download managers out for linux, proz, wget, others...
[05:07] <ikonia_> B|00d|u5T it explains the commands and how it works
[05:07] <crund> ikonia slap him ... he didn't read it properly
[05:07] <kash> Alam_Ubuntu: yes, DRM
[05:07] <Alam_Ubuntu> kash, http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DRM
[05:07] <Dr_willis> frankzhao,  firefox has some extensions and features like that also.
[05:07] <ikonia_> crund its just rude "how do I, how do I how do I" and do no reading
[05:07] <crund> ikonia haha, i know it
[05:08] <smros> /h
[05:08] <crund> ikonia or those who refuse to read man pages
[05:08] <frankzhao> o, is it? I downloaded a file which is around 50MB from firefox
[05:08] <ikonia_> crund man ls "I know but how do I......." ughhhhhhh
[05:08] <kash> does this mean my songs won't play anymore
[05:08] <ikonia_> kash its not drm like copy protection, read the link
[05:09] <frankzhao> but i have downloaded it 3 times ... :( it is not continuing from the place which it failed
[05:09] <kash> ikonia_: i'm afraid of virus
[05:09] <crund> lol, "Linux! Now featuring DRM!" haha
[05:09] <ikonia_> kash what ??? so you won't read links
[05:09] <ikonia_> kash if you won't read links you may as well leave now as you'll get no-where
[05:09] <francois> burn
[05:10] <kash> what the hel?
[05:10] <kash> i'm worried for all these people
[05:10] <kash> they're using DRM and didnt' even know iT!!
[05:10] <Alam_Ubuntu> "The Direct Rendering Manager (DRM) is a kernel module that gives direct hardware access to DRI clients." <- not Digtial Right Management
[05:10] <ikonia_> kash read the link
[05:10] <kash> how do i know i can trust youse guys
[05:10] <ikonia_> Alam_Ubuntu thats was a good link, thank you
[05:10] <ikonia_> !ops
[05:10] <francois> kash: then don't
[05:10] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[05:11] <apokryphos> ikonia: yes?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> ?
[05:11] <kash> how is asking about DRM being a troll
[05:11] <ikonia_> apokryphos any chance of a lean on kash - suspected troll
[05:11] <kash> DRM is illegal here
[05:11] <ikonia_> apokryphos refuses to accept DRMis not direct rights access and keeps spwering rubbish about it being int he kernel despite two good links explaining it being posted
[05:11] <jvolkman> kash: because it's obviously just an overload of the "DRM" acronym in this case, and you won't accept that fact
[05:12] <kash> jvolkman: i'll see you in court then
[05:12] <thestriker> guys can u plz tell me where i can find help regarding anjuta for c programming
[05:12] <Alam_Ubuntu> that odd, I can compile valgrind SVN on Debian Etch but not with Ununtu Edgy...
[05:12] <ikonia_> kash - read the links or be quiet about it
[05:12] <schwachs> hey all, i have ubuntu running under vmware but my clock is way off and doesn't seem to want correct itself.  does the "keep clock sync..." function work under this situation?
[05:12] <apokryphos> ikonia_: please be polite.
[05:12] <ikonia_> apokryphos sorry - but how many times
[05:12] <kelsin> thestriker: the anjuta website? http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/
[05:12] <crund> schwachs doesn't vmware have an option to sync guest OS with host OS?
[05:12] <crund> schwachs i thought that's what i used to do ...
[05:12] <thestriker> kelsin,  any irc chat rooms to find help quickly?
[05:13] <schwachs> lemme look crund
[05:13] <Kronuz> brb
[05:13] <kelsin> thestriker: none listed on the website, but there are help forums and discussion forums
[05:13] <schwachs> any idea where that might be crund ?
[05:13] <Tonren> Hey guys, it's really important that I get hibernate working, but for the life of me it just won't happen.  This is a post I made on my problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=369038
[05:14] <Tonren> Can anyone help me get hibernate running?!
[05:14] <Dimensions> Hiya guys ... i have kinda weired problem ... i have installed ubuntu dapper on my USB 4 Gig HDD ... it seemed fine after install i updated it and when i boot the machine for a while it looks fine but when i open the terminal the blinker (cursor) is a bit far from where it should be and when i type any command it says command not found, after few seconds all icons from system goes away and none of programmes work .... What should i do any
[05:14] <zero-9376> last thing if im trying to log in (have gdm and login prompt) then enter user and pass (which are correct) then x/gdm crahes what are the logfiles i should look at to diagnose problem? this happens for all system users and doesnt change with the nvidia or open nv driver or using previous kerenel
[05:14] <crund> schwachs no sorry. Another thing might be how you set the time option when you installed ubuntu
[05:14] <TMT[fi] > Hello everybody
[05:14] <ikonia_> zero-9376 xorg.0.log and gdm.log
[05:14] <thestriker> kelsin, thanx
[05:15] <francois> Dimensions: did the install go normal ? no errors ?
[05:15] <Dimensions> francois:  no errors at all ... it was smooth ..
[05:15] <TMT[fi] > Is there a way in ubuntu to assign console commands as global gnome hotkeys?
[05:15] <francois> Dimensions: whats your system configuratino ?
[05:15] <ikonia_> ljl - thank you
[05:16] <ikonia_> TMT[fi]  no idea but I wouldn't be surprised if there was
[05:16] <Dimensions> francois:  i have plugged it to my laptop and other laptops /systems on all it happens ....(laptop 1.5 M processor with 512 mem)
[05:16] <cjvail13> ok i installed the nvidia drivers and i still can not change the screen resolution
[05:16] <ikonia_> Dimensions ubuntu is no transportable
[05:16] <ikonia_> cjvail13 what was the last thing you did
[05:16] <zero-9376> anywhere else, i looked at those but didnt seem to be much info in those, is there way to increase logging level for these?
[05:17] <TMT[fi] > ikonia_: My goal is to create global hotkeys for xmms but it could be useful in other things as well
[05:17] <xelados> Anyone know how to get MP3 playback with Rhythmbox? It says I need the mp3 plugin for Gstreamer, but nothing I've found in Synaptic relating to mp3s has worked.
[05:17] <cjvail13> after i installed the drivers i rebooted
[05:17] <Kronuz> okay, I got Beryl working again :)
[05:17] <ikonia_> zero-9376 look at the startup scripts, I'm sure you can, although X is quite verbose
[05:17] <ikonia_> cjvail13 you've not read the docs
[05:17] <ikonia_> Kronuz well done
[05:17] <Dimensions> any one has any idea why this happens ?
[05:17] <cjvail13> i did and it said that after i install that i reboot
[05:17] <cjvail13> so that is what i did
[05:17] <ikonia_> cjvail13 yes,then continue reading the docs, they don't stop there
[05:17] <francois> Dimensions: ikonia_ just told you that ubuntu isn't transportable
[05:18] <zero-9376> ikonia_: thankyou you have been very helpful
[05:18] <cjvail13> ok can you send me the link again
[05:18] <Jowi> Kronuz, the vertrefresh helped you?
[05:18] <ikonia_> zero-9376 no problem
[05:18] <ikonia_> !nvidia >cjvail13
[05:18] <ikonia_> zero-9376 if it helps the problem is not normally X in that situation, but normally gdm/gnome - check the gdm and syslogs
[05:19] <Dimensions> francois:  what does that has to do with it ? i first tried it on the system i installed and it happens on that one even ...
[05:19] <ikonia_> francois he clearly doesn't want to listen
[05:19] <francois> ikonia_: maybe he's just young, lol
[05:19] <morphinex> howdy
[05:19] <ikonia_> hello
[05:19] <Dimensions> ikonia what do u mean by transportable ?
[05:19] <morphinex> Dr_willis: still around?
[05:20] <cjvail13> ikonia: it doesnt say anything else about screen resolution
[05:20] <ikonia_> cjvail13 if I find where it is - I'm putting you on ignore
[05:20] <ComputerHermit> hello
[05:20] <ikonia_> !nvidia >ikonia_
[05:20] <francois> quick off topic question, does anyone know how to turn off the connect and disconnect spam on irssi ":?
[05:20] <cjvail13> sorry
[05:20] <cjvail13> but i dont see it
[05:21] <ComputerHermit> how do i delete files out of my root folder?
[05:21] <francois> ComputerHermit: what are you looking to delete ?
[05:21] <ComputerHermit> some logg files
[05:21] <ikonia_> cjvail13 its crytal clear
[05:21] <Dr_willis> morphinex,  yes
[05:21] <cjvail13> where
[05:21] <francois> ComputerHermit: sudo rm filesname
[05:22] <ComputerHermit>  thank you
[05:22] <francois> ComputerHermit: np
[05:22] <Dimensions> francois:  i didn't get meaning of transportable ?
[05:22] <ikonia_> Dimensions it means you can't install on one computer and use it on antoher
[05:22] <ComputerHermit> hey I was going to post it in the fourm but their is no new thread start op
[05:23] <ikonia_> ComputerHermit are you registered and logged in
[05:23] <ComputerHermit> yea
[05:23] <Flaming> hi
[05:23] <ComputerHermit> skywalker___
[05:23] <Dimensions> ikonia_ i already clarified that it happens on the system i did installation ... let alone trying on other systems ...
[05:23] <ComputerHermit> I'll look around
[05:23] <Flaming> where can I find libdvdcss2 for Edgy Eft, please?
[05:23] <ComputerHermit> hey thanks
[05:23] <francois> Dimensions: ok so doesn't matter what install you did ? X doesn't seem to work on you ?
[05:23] <zzz> Is 32 Megabytes of RAM enough for the alternate installation CD?
[05:23] <francois> Dimensions: X is your graphical display manager
[05:23] <Tonren> Anyone?  I really, REALLY need hibernate to work.
[05:23] <PriceChild> ComputerHermit, start new post forum is top left "ish" whilst you're in a subforum. You can't start a new thread from the front page
[05:23] <PriceChild> zzz, yes
[05:24] <ikonia_> Dimensions yes, but using another system as a way to backup your issue is poitnless
[05:24] <ikonia_> Flaming search the wiki for restirected formats
[05:24] <zzz> PriceChild: I tried to install but could not succeed.
[05:24] <PriceChild> !dvd | Flaming
[05:24] <ubotu> Flaming: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:24] <Flaming> ikonia_ what wiki ?
[05:24] <taigeR_`> no
[05:24] <ikonia_> Flaming https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:24] <francois> !laptop
[05:24] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[05:24] <Jowi> !css > Flaming
[05:24] <PriceChild> zzz, What happenned then?
[05:24] <Dimensions> ikonia_ what is the solution is the problem with X as mentioned by francois ? or its coz of usb hd d?
[05:24] <cjvail13> is there someone out there that is not a bully that has patience to deal with a newbie help me with my screen resolution
[05:25] <ComputerHermit> thanks PriceChild
[05:25] <ikonia_> Dimensions explain exactly what happens with X
[05:25] <francois> !laptop | Dimensions
[05:25] <ubotu> Dimensions: please see above
[05:25] <ikonia_> Flaming its the wiki thats mentioned in this channel's topic
[05:25] <zzz> PriceChild: I got an error regarding the RAMDISK. I believe that was because I didn't have enough RAM.
[05:25] <Dimensions> thanks francois ...
[05:25] <apokryphos> cjvail13: please take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic.
[05:25] <dcordes> !restricted-modules
[05:25] <cjvail13> thanks
[05:25] <LjL> cjvail13: if you haven't yet tried  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg , try it first.
[05:25] <dcordes> !restricted-formats
[05:25] <dcordes> !mp3
[05:25] <LjL> !restricted
[05:25] <PriceChild> zzz, I'm not sure myself sorry
[05:25] <dcordes> thx
[05:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:26] <ikonia_> LjL he won't read the docs
[05:26] <cjvail13> ok what does that do
[05:26] <cjvail13> yes i will
[05:26] <Dimensions> ikonia_ after installation on usb hdd if i use Terminal ... it gives command not found for any command i give withing few seconds all icons goes away and none of the programmes run .... this doesn't happen if i dont touch the terminal ....
[05:26] <LjL> cjvail13: the docs explain what it does..
[05:26] <ikonia_> cjvail13 the link I sent you explains it
[05:26] <cjvail13> ok thanks
[05:26] <ikonia_> Dimensions your path is probably wrong
[05:26] <ikonia_> Dimensions or your filesystems arn't mounted properly
[05:27] <morphinex> hey folks, I installed a new HD in my sytstem and grub is now throwing me error 22
[05:27] <MrEgg964> Hi. I'm trying to install vmplayer from automatix. I'm stuck at the user end agreement : at the end of it there's <OK> but I can't click it to have the installation resume.
[05:27] <LjL> !automatix | MrEgg964
[05:27] <ubotu> MrEgg964: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:27] <ikonia_> !automatrix >MrEgg964
[05:27] <LjL> !vmware-player | MrEgg964
[05:27] <ubotu> mregg964: vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2 (edgy), package size 11602 kB, installed size 31336 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[05:27] <zzz> !automatix | MrEgg964
[05:27] <LjL> MrEgg964: since it's right there in the standard repositories ready to be installed, why in the world would you use automatix to get it?
[05:27] <ikonia_> zzz thats just been done
[05:28] <ikonia_> !goodbotuse >zzz
[05:28] <zzz> Whoops. Sorry.
[05:28] <crundy> zzz how much ram do you have?
[05:28] <francois> !goodbotuse >francois
[05:29] <zzz> crundy: 32Megabytes. I am using another machine right now.
[05:29] <crundy> zzz ah ok, that will be the problem i'd say
[05:29] <Dimensions> francois:  ... i m sure its not coz of laptop support as im using ubuntu on this laptop from last 7 months ... how do i start it without X ... i kinda dont remember from RH there was some chainloader for it ? to start in command line only without X ...
[05:29] <MrEgg964> During the installation process, the user agreement is being displayed. How can I click OK to it ?
[05:29] <zzz> crundy: That's what I am thinking too...
[05:29] <francois> Dimensions: when you come to the login screen, just click on the menu, and choose console login
[05:30] <luchi> Hi<EMAIL_ADDRESS>doesn't work. Couldn't connect with remote host
[05:30] <francois> MrEgg964: hit enter, if i'm not mistaken
[05:30] <Dimensions> francois:  i mean if i want it to boot into console directly always ... and if needed will type startx for GUI ...
[05:30] <MrEgg964> francois : no, this doesn't work. The text is within Terminal.
[05:30] <Dr_willis> Dimensions,  disable the kdm or gdm sevice from running at boot time
[05:31] <francois> Dimensions: always ? i'm not sure, ask around
[05:31] <orangey> hey all!
[05:31] <ikonia_> Dimensions change the run level
[05:31] <francois> MrEgg964: during install the text is in terminal ? what ?
[05:31] <Vegeta^> When I try to acces my harddisk (where I had installed windows), through the Ubuntu CD (without installing ubuntu), I get the msg "Unable to mount the selected volume, Error: device /dev/hdc5 is not removable. Error: (...)", how do I mount this?
[05:31] <Dimensions> ikonia_:  thats what i am looking for how do i change run level ...
[05:32] <morphinex> Dr_willis: I tried to make the changes in grub, and now I can't boot at all ;)
[05:32] <MrEgg964> The terminal windows bears the name starting like this : DEBIAN_FRONTEND=dialog sudo apt-get...
[05:32] <ikonia_> Dimensions inittab
[05:33] <Dr_willis> morphinex,  thats why you test with altering the grub command line from the grub menu first.
[05:33] <jdr_> hey
[05:33] <Dimensions> thanks ikonia_ , francois and Dr_willis
[05:33] <jdr_> how can I mount a external HD( icybox) as a normal user?
[05:33] <ikonia_> jdr_ use sudo
[05:33] <morphinex> Well, I think that I made a typo which caused the problem ;)
[05:34] <Dr_willis> jdr_,  what filesystem is it?
[05:34] <ikonia_> jdr_only root can use mount
[05:34] <jdr_> ikonia_: havn't got sudo ont his pc
[05:34] <ikonia_> jdr_ are you using ubuntu ?
[05:34] <jdr_> yes
[05:34] <francois> !sudo | jdr_
[05:34] <ubotu> jdr_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:34] <ikonia_> jdr_ then you ahve sudo
[05:34] <Vegeta^> I found on a website that I can try "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 /media/<created folder name> -o nls=utf8,umask=0222df -h" but this holds for hdc1, I tried it for hdc5 it didn't work, why?
[05:35] <ikonia_> Vegeta^ do you have a hadc5 ?
[05:35] <nickweb> hey folks, i seem to have lost my "Shutdown Button". When I hit the power button in the right hand corner, all I can select is Hibernate. Any ideas?
[05:35] <ikonia_> Vegeta^ is hdc5 ntfs
[05:35] <Vegeta^> ikonia: yes
[05:35] <jdr_> ikonia_: I can't become root, as Im not in sudoers, nor do I have a root pass, this is a public pc
[05:35] <ikonia_> nickweb thats normally a theme problem, I'm struggling with it too
[05:35] <nickweb> ahhh no
[05:35] <ikonia_> jdr_ screwed
[05:35] <nickweb> its just as soon as I installed beryl aswell
[05:36] <nickweb> ikonia, after hours of trying last night :(
[05:36] <franfemore> jhasgbg
[05:36] <ikonia_> nickweb there is a thread on the forum that can sometimes fix it
[05:36] <jdr_> ikonia_: you mean this simply isn't possible under ubuntu?
[05:36] <ikonia_> nickweb I gues it depends on the exact fault
[05:36] <LjL> franfemore: hello
[05:36] <ikonia_> jdr_ only root can use mount
[05:36] <nickweb> ikonia, I dont supose you have a link, or the post heading to search?
[05:36] <morphinex> when i change menu.lst do I need to run update-grub?
[05:36] <ikonia_> nickweb sorry dude, search time
[05:36] <ikonia_> morphinex no
[05:36] <ikonia_> morphinex its dynamic
[05:36] <kelsin> jdr_: is this like a external usb driver or something?
[05:36] <nickweb> ikonia, np - Thank youthough!
[05:36] <francois> jdr_: unless the system is set to automount, you can't do it, only root users who can use sudo
[05:37] <franfemore> what your name
[05:37] <morphinex> ikonia_: ok, thanks
[05:37] <Jowi> jdr_, if you are using nautilus or thunar you might still be able to see if the disk are mounted automatically. gnome has that ability and thunar as well. if not, no sulution is avaiable.
[05:37] <kelsin> jdr_: yeah like francois said, if they didn't setup the system to just automount those types of devices, it can't be done
[05:38] <kelsin> jdr_: (by default, you just plug in the harddisk and it appears fine, at least in my ubuntu installation with all usb keys and harddisks I have)
[05:38] <blimpdude> anyone know if ubuntu supports intel 3945ABG wireless out of the box like the ipw2200?
[05:39] <metalhedd> Hi! I have ubuntu on my laptop and it runs fantastic when it boots, but 3 out of 4 times it hangs at the progress-bar
[05:39] <MrEgg964> I'm trying to install vmware player, but I can't get past the user agreement. Please help :)
[05:39] <metalhedd> how can I findout whats going on.
[05:39] <sivik> has anyone been having any problems with firefox crashing lately
[05:39] <kelsin> MrEgg964: if you're using automatix we can't help you
[05:39] <MrEgg964> ok, I won't then. Thanks.
[05:39] <powerdemon> i installed Ubuntu, i can connect to my router but cant connect to the internet, any ideas wots wrong??
[05:39] <Dr_willis> metalhedd,  disable the splash screen, and perhaps the framebuffer in the kernel entry. (nofb, nosplash) that shouldkill off the splash screen totally.
[05:39] <LjL> MrEgg964, is it a text-mode dialog or a GNOME dialog or a KDE dialog that shows the agreement?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> metalhedd,  it maybe its 'scanning' the drives or somthing.
[05:40] <crundy> powerdemon have you set your router as the default gateway?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> metalhedd,  you are NOT refering to the gdm/gnome loading progress bar - after you enter your password rigth?
[05:40] <LjL> MrEgg964: Tab followed by Enter, or just Enter, will do the trick in some cases, but not in all. Adept for instance is known to have a problem with debconf dialogs.
[05:40] <powerdemon> how do i do that?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> metalhedd,  also you may be ble to hit 'escape'or 'f1' of 'f2' to clear off the splash screen
[05:40] <nickweb> is the ubuntu forums down?
[05:40] <metalhedd> Dr_willis: This time when I tried to boot it, it sat for a while and then the splash went away, now it shows "checking FIle system...s fsck 1.39 [ok]
[05:41] <metalhedd> but its just sitting there
[05:41] <kelsin> LjL: he originally said he was using automatix, which of course is not supported in this channel
[05:41] <nfusco> im trying to compile an app from source and I get a configure error: Can't build without QT - Can anyone assist with this, I have search the repos for such a package and dont seem to be able to find it, thanks
[05:41] <metalhedd> Dr_willis: no i'm talking about the boot spash
[05:41] <LjL> nickweb: it appears to be
[05:41] <LjL> !compile > nfusco    (nfusco, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:41] <nickweb> ah bugger. everythings against me today. lol
[05:41] <Dr_willis> metalhedd,  my example kerne line -->   kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-generic root=/dev/sda2 ro quiet nosplash
[05:41] <Dr_willis> metalhedd,  you could edit the grub boot line as a test..  and change it for one time testing
[05:42] <LjL> kelsin: doesn't mean we'm not even supposed to try to help him... sure, it makes things harder.
[05:42] <a> Who looked NGE? Evangelion
[05:42] <Hattori> hello, i used gparted to cloine an hdd, when i switch old hdd with the new one, pc says there are no bootable disk.. what am i missing?
[05:42] <nickweb> okies - can I hassell you guys with another question - about wireless? Everytime I boot up, I have to go to network manager, click preferences for my wireless connectin, re-select my already selected wireless network, then ok twice to bring it up. Any ideas on how to make this permannnt? :)
[05:42] <crundy> powerdemon well, assuming you know the router's ip, get a terminal up and type "sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>" replace the ip with your router ip
[05:42] <metalhedd> Dr_willis: ok its trying to boot.
[05:42] <uglybetty> hi
[05:42] <metalhedd> Soft Lockup detected on CPU#0
[05:43] <nfusco> LjL, Valkyrie, frontend for valgrind, cant find in the repos....hence why im building from source
[05:43] <Dr_willis> metalhedd,  ewww.....
[05:43] <metalhedd> Dr_willis: no kiddin'
[05:43] <crundy> powerdemon so you can ping your router?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> metalhedd,  but now ya knave a strting point.
[05:43] <LjL> nfusco: yeah... but the page i gave you has information as to which package you should install for building Qt/KDE apps (as well as building stuff in general, but you should already be past that)
[05:43] <cjvail13> i am back and would like to thank everyone for their help and patience except for ikonia who was rude.  but thanks to everyone again my screen resolution is fixed
[05:43] <Alam_Ubuntu> nfusco, alleyoop?
[05:43] <metalhedd> Dr_willis: lots of bug reports with that error
[05:44] <uglybetty> I am just about to install ubuntu on my old pc will I have to delete the files on the drive I want to install it on first
[05:44] <LjL> kelsin: thank you for the factoid, but i know what it says, because i wrote it.
[05:44] <nfusco> Alam_Ubuntu, Valkyrie
[05:44] <francois> uglybetty: just install
[05:44] <Dr_willis> uglybetty,  files? linux wants to install to its own partition.
[05:44] <francois> uglybetty: you'll loose everything
[05:44] <carlosqueso> uglybetty, they'll all be gone when you're done, but you don't need to first
[05:44] <Hattori> i used gparted to cloine an hdd, when i switch old hdd with the new one, pc says there are no bootable disk.. what am i missing?
[05:44] <uglybetty> I dont need them there all on my other pc now
[05:44] <francois> uglybetty: then just install
[05:44] <Moniker42> hey, how do i reinstall gdm from recovery?
[05:45] <carlosqueso> uglybetty, then just go for it
[05:45] <uglybetty> ok thanks
[05:45] <Moniker42> *from the recovery console
[05:45] <francois> Moniker42: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:45] <Moniker42> francois it's already installed
[05:45] <dyrne> Moniker42: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm  if you just need to configure it to default settings
[05:45] <Moniker42> k
[05:45] <francois> Moniker42: or just gdm, if thats the only packages you need
[05:46] <crundy> powerdemon well, how did you go?
[05:46] <Moniker42> thnanks that's probably enough - i've managed to configure it to be incompatible with my monitor somehow
[05:46] <crundy> badly, I guess lol
[05:47] <metalhedd> Dr_willis: the fix seems to be disabling the wireless module. i dont have a prolem with doing that, but I can't get in to disable it! can i tell it not to load that module at the kernel command line?
[05:47] <Moniker42> okay i almost have a working interface for my old desktop for use in school ;)
[05:47] <uglybetty> is there away to install ubuntu than cd rom cant be bothered swapping my dvd rom drive back to my old machine
[05:47] <metalhedd> Dr_willis: Never mind... Turning off the killswitch let it boot.
[05:47] <Moniker42> can't wait to sit in computing and play doom 3...
[05:47] <a> Where the biggest chat in the world? Where the set of people!  Plzz tell me
[05:47] <Moniker42> rotate my beryl cube and look cool =)
[05:48] <Hattori> hi, i used gparted to clone an hdd, when i switch old hdd with the new one, pc says there are no bootable disk.. what am i missing?
[05:48] <Moniker42> "invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed
[05:48] <Moniker42> "
[05:48] <kelsin> Hattori: is the bios recognizing that "new" cloned drive
[05:48] <Hattori> ya
[05:49] <Hattori> as primary master
[05:49] <Moniker42> dyrne, francois any idea what that error means/
[05:49] <francois> Moniker42: no, sry, i don't use gdm,
[05:49] <morphinex> ah, still the same grub error, 22
[05:49] <francois> Moniker42: what did you do to get that error ?
[05:49] <kelsin> Hattori: I don't have any experience with gparted for cloning, but gparted copies the MBR from the old drive as well when it clones?
[05:49] <carlosqueso> uglybetty, you have windows on the old machine?
[05:50] <kelsin> Hattori: and have you loaded it back into gparted and make sure that the partitions that should be are marked as bootable?
[05:50] <gbellmann> hi everyone, how can i uninstall a package?
[05:50] <francois> gbellmann: sudo apt-get remove name
[05:50] <uglybetty> I have nothing on it apart from 100gig of files and stuff
[05:50] <Hattori> kelsin: hmm no i didn't check if they're marked as bootable.. let me see if there is an option for that
[05:50] <GoldeNArX> hey guys.  I am pulling my hair out trying to get this wireless working
[05:50] <kelsin> gbellmann: in synaptic you can right click on the package and select to remove it
[05:51] <GoldeNArX> I cant seem to get the 80211 part installed.  anyone have input
[05:51] <carlosqueso> uglybetty, can you boot from a USB Stick?
[05:51] <kelsin> Hattori: it's a per-partition setting, I'm no expert on what it means, and it shoudl have cloned that stuff, past checking those things I won't be of any help, good luck
[05:51] <uglybetty> no bios does not allow plus I dont have any usb sticks
[05:51] <gbellmann> now, how can i kill X, i need to install nvidia drivers
[05:52] <omegacenti> I think the resolution faq in the faq above is a little dated, as it did not autodetect what type of monitor it was.. any better guides on resolution?
[05:52] <dyrne> Moniker42: just sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart from shell
[05:52] <omegacenti> I need a reosl.ution change in other words, as my resolution was detected incorrectly
[05:52] <francois> gbellmann: use alt+f1, and then do sudo /ect/init.d/kdm stop
[05:52] <carlosqueso> uglybetty so how are you booting old machine
[05:52] <francois> gbellmann: if you use kdm
[05:52] <gbellmann> francois: thanks
[05:52] <GoldeNArX> anyone actually get wireless working in ubuntu?
[05:52] <uglybetty> boot it from a hard drive
[05:53] <carlosqueso> uglybetty what os on HD
[05:53] <carlosqueso> OS
[05:53] <uglybetty> none
[05:53] <carlosqueso> no windows, what do you boot into then
[05:53] <dyrne> GoldeNArX: on all my PCs. wireless if you get a decent card is pretty easy these days not problems in ubuntu slack or freebsd
[05:53] <busfahrer> I am a bit confused. I installed another videocard on my board (and switched BIOS from AGP to PCI for primary video output), got it to work. Now my SOUND doesn't work anymore. It plays back fine, but I can't hear anything. I turned up all the volume controls I could find. Any ideas?
[05:53] <uglybetty> nothing
[05:54] <carlosqueso> do you have floppy drive on comp?
[05:54] <uglybetty> yes
[05:54] <carlosqueso> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies
[05:54] <carlosqueso> that may help
[05:54] <Orfeous> got some problems with FGLX or what it calls.. hardware acceleration.. here is my Xorg.0.org-file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8948/
[05:54] <carlosqueso> looks like a pain, but who knows
[05:55] <paolino> Installing 6.06 means installing 3  years old packages ?
[05:55] <uglybetty> I will just swap my dvd rom drive back as my new one does not have a floppy so I would have to switch them between machines too
[05:55] <carlosqueso> sounds like a plan
[05:55] <omegacenti> I need a resolution change in other words, as my resolution was detected incorrectly. Anyone have better info than the faw above?
[05:55] <Pollywog> how do I change menus in gnome?  I mean like adding an app
[05:55] <carlosqueso> sorry couldn't find better way for you
[05:55] <Hattori> kelsin: i changed it to "boot" and now pc says: missing operating system
[05:55] <uglybetty> thank you
[05:56] <Alam_Ubuntu> nfusco, does Valkrite need libqt4-dev or libqt3-dev?
[05:56] <GigaClon> Pollywog, right click Apllications
[05:56] <uglybetty> how will I install my motherboards drivers once I have installed
[05:56] <Pollywog> ty
[05:56] <Pollywog> ahhh yes I see it thanks
[05:56] <kelsin> it definiately sounds like it's missing a solid MBR, does cloning copy that? Might need to reinstall grub on the drive's mbr, I don't know anything about copying the mbr, or reinstalling grub though
[05:56] <carlosqueso> uglybetty, you shouldn't need to install anything else, most should just work
[05:56] <poogle> why would startx fail on "client 1 rejected from local host"? how is this fixed?
[05:57] <kelsin> !grub > Hattori
[05:57] <uglybetty> what even graphics card and sound
[05:57] <kelsin> Hattori: you can probably follow those instructions to restore grub on the new drive if that might be the case
[05:57] <carlosqueso> uglybetty, it'll probably use a generic graphics driver, but yes, sound should work unless you've got some really weird hardware
[05:58] <carlosqueso> the only difficult stuff is wireless and some modems
[05:58] <uglybetty> My sound does not work on windows untill I install the required drivers
[05:59] <carlosqueso> yup, but linux isn't like that
[05:59] <uglybetty> ok thank you for your help
[05:59] <bullgard1> What is the meaning of 'belocs' in the DEB program package 'belocs-locales-bin? Synaptics writes: "This package provides the executables needed to compile locale data
[05:59] <nfusco> Alam_Ubuntu, Yeh, I have installe libqt4, still complainin, cant build without QT..
[05:59] <bullgard1> files.  Source files come from GNU libc, but are slightly improved
[05:59] <paolino> where I can see the package list of 6.06 ?
[05:59] <carlosqueso> no problem, good luck with the install
[05:59] <kelsin> uglybetty: yeah I haven't had a sound card in YEARS that linux hasn't recognized
[05:59] <kelsin> nfusco: did you install libqt4-dev?
[05:59] <uglybetty> thanks ill bbl
[05:59] <bullgard1> to allow changes in language and territory definitions at run-time."
[05:59] <Alam_Ubuntu> nfusco, it wants QT version 3, not 4
[05:59] <jannu1> hi, can i upgrade ntfs-3g older version to stable 1.0 without changes or do i need delete some drivers or what?
[06:00] <Alam_Ubuntu> nfusco, try installing qt3-dev-tools
[06:01] <kelsin> !sound | SirDucer
[06:01] <ubotu> SirDucer: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:01] <dcordes> !legends
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about legends - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <dcordes> in which repo is legends?
[06:01] <gbellmann> how can i install libc
[06:02] <LjL> dcordes: none?
[06:02] <LjL> gbellmann: it is installed already.
[06:02] <kelsin> dcordes: packages.ubuntu.com has no record for legends in edgy at least
[06:02] <omegacenti> !resolution
[06:02] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:02] <SirDucer> I've had a look at those pages and I am totally clueless :( I've only had ubuntu installed for about 3 hours now
[06:02] <LjL> gbellmann: it's the standard C library, so it would be very suprising if your system ran without it being installed.
[06:02] <frankzhao> how to install a rpm file in ubuntu? thanks
[06:03] <gbellmann> LjL: nvidia driver installer says i don't have it installed
[06:03] <carlosqueso> !rpm
[06:03] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[06:03] <carlosqueso> !alien
[06:03] <kitche> gbellmann: you have to install build-essential
[06:03] <jannu1> hi, can i upgrade ntfs-3g older version to stable 1.0 without changes or do i need delete some drivers or what?
[06:03] <kelsin> SirDucer: did it fail when you tryed to change device like it says in the bot factoid?
[06:03] <LjL> gbellmann: nvidia driver installer is wrong, or it's saying something else than what you think it's saying. why don't you use the packaged nvidia drivers instead, anyway?
[06:03] <LjL> !nvidia > gbellmann    (gbellmann, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:04] <SirDucer> Kelsin: I don't know to be honest nothing appeared to happen
[06:04] <frankzhao> hello carlosqueso, can you teach me in detail ? i am installing j2re-1.4.2-linux.rpm?
[06:04] <carlosqueso> frankzhao, you shouldn't need to do that.  It's in the repos
[06:05] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Got problem choosing installer. i will run lamp on this computer but will also use it as a desktop... so wich installer should i choose then? :S
[06:05] <kelsin> Double click the volume applet in the top bar, then click on File, then Change Device and select one of the alsa mixer ones, and make sure nothing it muted and volumes are at ok levels, if you get an error message or don't have any devies in Change Devices, let us know
[06:05] <LjL> ITS_FOR_REAL: it doesn't really matter, you can always install packages later.
[06:05] <LjL> !lamp > ITS_FOR_REAL    (ITS_FOR_REAL, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:06] <SirDucer> Kelsin: I've tried all of those listed in the applet and still nothing
[06:06] <GoldeNArX> sorry guys battery dide
[06:06] <GoldeNArX> *died
[06:06] <frankzhao> carlos, i am lost, sorry, what is repos?
[06:06] <GoldeNArX> anyone here ever get wireless working in ubuntu?
[06:06] <carlosqueso> java
[06:06] <kitche> !repos | frankzhao
[06:06] <ubotu> frankzhao: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:07] <ITS_FOR_REAL> LjL, yeah sure i know that... just curious what i will miss fresh out of the box in both cases ;)
[06:07] <bigjohnto> anyone know if you can force windows to authenticate via NIS?
[06:07] <dcordes> Playing MPEG stream from 05. Qu'est ce qu'on attend.mp3 ...
[06:07] <kelsin> SirDucer: sorry to ask another stupid question, but is Master and PCM both un muted and not set to 0 in the gnome volume control window that pops up when you double click the volume applet in the bar?
[06:07] <nfusco> Alam_Ubuntu, thanks got it
[06:07] <ITS_FOR_REAL> LjL, have they cut down on media progs in server version? etc
[06:07] <Moniker42> i'm trying to install nvidia graphics drivers but i get "E: package nvidia-glx has no installation candidate"
[06:08] <ITS_FOR_REAL> LjL, do they both got simliar x?
[06:08] <LjL> ITS_FOR_REAL, if you use the desktop CD, you will have the ubuntu-desktop package installed. same if you use alternate/minimal and install the desktop version. otherwise, you'll only have ubuntu-standard and/or ubuntu-minimal installed.
[06:08] <LjL> ITS_FOR_REAL, the server version comes with no X at all.
[06:08] <busfahrer> I am a bit confused. I installed another videocard on my board (and switched BIOS from AGP to PCI for primary video output), got it to work. Now my SOUND doesn't work anymore. It plays back fine, but I can't hear anything. I turned up all the volume controls I could find. Any ideas?
[06:08] <SirDucer> Kelsin: no they are not, I have un-muted every control there and still nothing
[06:08] <LjL> !server
[06:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[06:08] <carlosqueso> frankzaho, try typing sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[06:09] <kelsin> SirDucer: is your sound card listed under "Change Device" in the file menu of the volume control?
[06:09] <metalhedd> I seem to have lost my log out options. when i select quit from the system menu, it goes immediately to gdm. i used to get all kinds of options for hibernate, suspend, log out, switch user etc... what happened? :P
[06:09] <bigjohnto> i guess no ideas?
[06:09] <ITS_FOR_REAL> LjL, thats the answer i was looking for....  need x to go with.. or it will help anyway! thx alot
[06:09] <SirDucer> Kelsin: if the list on the "ASLA" site is correct then yes ca0106
[06:10] <kelsin> SirDucer: ok open the terminal and run two commands "sudo lsmod" and "sudo lspci" and then pastebin the results?
[06:10] <kelsin> !pastebin > SirDucer
[06:10] <SirDucer> I have the Creative Labs Live! 24bit internal sound card
[06:10] <LNX1> hi !
[06:10] <LjL> ITS_FOR_REAL, but it does by no means mean that you can't install X later... it's a matter of doing "sudo apt-get install thedesktopyouwant", really. if you're unsure, use the minimal CD, that's only an 8 megs download, and it'll get the rest (whatever you tell it to get) off the net
[06:10] <LNX1> Someone known how in Ubuntu my multimdia are set ?
[06:11] <LNX1> multimedia key
[06:11] <metalhedd> LNX1: Mine just worked.
[06:11] <LNX1> already working, I just wnat to known how
[06:11] <metalhedd> No idea.
[06:11] <metalhedd> lol
[06:11] <LjL> !shortcuts > LNX1    (LNX1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:11] <metalhedd> magic as far as i can tell
[06:11] <ITS_FOR_REAL> LjL, yeah sure i "know" but i got answer what i was looking for! thx alot
[06:12] <bigjohnto> honestly does anyone know how to authenticate windows users via NIS or not?
[06:12] <SirDucer> kelsin: stupid question alert! how do I use pastebin? lol
[06:12] <LNX1> mioki
[06:12] <francois> bigjohnto: patience
[06:12] <LNX1> ok
[06:12] <enyc> Hrrm... How should I mount a smb share to a path so it can be accessed under wine somewhere in the directory tree?
[06:12] <francois> SirDucer: go to www.pastebin.com, its so that you don't flood the chanel
[06:12] <kelsin> SirDucer: you should have gotten a private message from ubotu with information
[06:12] <enyc> (i.e. I want to map a remote drive to a local dir)
[06:12] <kelsin> !pastebin
[06:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:13] <uglybetty> Does the audio lead that connects to the back of a cd/dvd rom drive and the motherboard need to be plugged in
[06:13] <owner> i read the apachemysqlphp guide but i am still not sure what to change in apache2.conf
[06:13] <berent> !puppy
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about puppy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:14] <berent> !iso
[06:14] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[06:14] <uglybetty> I just need to swap my dvd rom drive back to my old machine so I can install ubuntu on it
[06:14] <Lunar_Lamp> uglybetty: for the computer to work? No.
[06:14] <KoolShen> are there any good icq and msn clients for the terminal?
[06:14] <omegacenti> Sweet, resolution now fixed! 915resolution fix worked.
[06:14] <carlosqueso> uglybetty, as long as you aren't planning on listening to music, no
[06:14] <uglybetty> will my dvd rom drive still work without it
[06:14] <Lunar_Lamp> uglybetty: that cable is used in some older systems for sound.
[06:14] <kitche> KoolShen: just use bitlbee it's an irc gateway to im services
[06:14] <ITS_FOR_REAL> LjL, since i will use it as a desktop with irc msn xmms etc etc it will prob be easier and faster to go with desktop. then install lamp. thats what i did last i tried and it worked out nice. just wondered if it was any huge bennefit going for server version instead but it doesnt sound so for me
[06:14] <kelsin> KoolShen: the newest verison of gaim comes with "gaim-text" I don't particularly like it, but that works for everything gaim does
[06:15] <KoolShen> kitche: sounds good. i'll take a look at iot
[06:15] <uglybetty> yes thats what I thought thanks
[06:15] <LjL> ITS_FOR_REAL: the server version comes with a tweaked kernel, that's all. but then if you're going to do desktop stuff, you don't want the tweaked kernel.
[06:15] <uglybetty> right I will go try now thanks again
[06:15] <KoolShen> kelsin: ah i noticed the update message on gaim startup. it is not yet included in the repos, right?
[06:15] <ITS_FOR_REAL> LjL, yeah great
[06:15] <omegacenti> Can you play DIablo II in Ubuntu 6.10?
[06:15] <carlosqueso> np
[06:15] <LjL> ITS_FOR_REAL: and note that when i say "server version" i don't mean the "server" option in the alternate or minimal CDs, because they're two different things
[06:15] <kitche> omegacenti: though cedega/wine you probably can
[06:16] <ITS_FOR_REAL> hehe yeah!!
[06:16] <ITS_FOR_REAL> LjL, im stupid... but not that...
[06:16] <ITS_FOR_REAL> :D
[06:16] <Hattori> kelsin: thanks man. it fixed it
[06:16] <Chetwin> I'm working on a G4 iMac in live mode trying to back up some of the hard drive contents.  Can someone please assist me?
[06:16] <kelsin> Hattori: np, glad to hear it
[06:16] <LjL> ITS_FOR_REAL: it never seemed very obvious to me that there was a difference.
[06:17] <metalhedd> I seem to have lost my log out options. when i select quit from the system menu, it goes immediately to gdm. i used to get all kinds of options for hibernate, suspend, log out, switch user etc..
[06:17] <Chetwin> I want to know if I can burn a CD in live mode?
[06:18] <SirDucer> kelsin: lsmod results = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8951/    and lspci results = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8952/
[06:18] <highneko> In blender how can someone pan around a window without moving the object?
[06:18] <berent> i have downloaded puppy linux
[06:18] <jannu1> where i can see what version of ntfs-3g im using?
[06:18] <berent> how to mount it
[06:18] <ITS_FOR_REAL> LjL, hehe yeah ok. whats obvious to one... might not be obvious to another so its always good to tell it all ;)
[06:18] <Chetwin> Can someone please assist me with a MAC
[06:18] <Chetwin> I need extensive help, not just one question
[06:19] <MrEgg964> Where can I get info on locale ? More specifically, I'm trying to mount an ntfs drive that contains file names with letters like    etc.
[06:19] <Chetwin> Anyone with exp would be helpful
[06:19] <Pollywog> I have some apps that do not appear in the Applications menu but I am unable to add them
[06:19] <Pollywog> Gnome has changed
[06:19] <eck> Pollywog: use alacarte
[06:19] <Pollywog> eck: ty
[06:20] <GoldeNArX> anyone here ever get wireless working in ubuntu?
[06:20] <berent> how to mount puppy linux
[06:20] <carlosqueso> GoldeNArX, what wireless card
[06:20] <eck> berent: what exactly are you trying to mount?
[06:20] <Pollywog> GoldeNArX: yeah but it wasn't easy I have rt2500
[06:20] <X_Force> anyone here who knows if the linux kernel support these "transactional file operations" like in Win Vista ?
[06:20] <berent> i am trying to mount iso image eck
[06:20] <LjL> !mountiso > berent    (berent, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:20] <eck> !iso > berent
[06:21] <Dr_willis> X_Force,  ive heard that vista did some changes to ntfs that 'breaks' the linux ntfs support. :()
[06:21] <eck> X_Force: that is a filesystem concept, not a kernel concept
[06:21] <finalbeta> X_Force: doesn't every journaled file system do that.
[06:21] <eck> X_Force: i guess it depends what FS you use
[06:21] <Dr_willis> X_Force,  but not sure how accurate that info is.
[06:21] <Pollywog> I got my card working in Linspire and Freespire without any problem but in kubuntu it was tough
[06:21] <GoldeNArX> Pollywog : I have intel 3945abg I am really just strugeling installing the 80211 subsystem.  freaking thing is making me mad
[06:21] <MarkCh> how do i make kde apps look native in gnome?
[06:21] <berent> eck LjL :I did it into a already data existing  mount point and all data there had vanished and some vmlinuz has come
[06:21] <Moniker42-deskto> hey, i've got a problem with graphics my monitor's saying "cannot display this mode" rather than displaying gdm
[06:21] <berent> eck LjL : Now how to boot it
[06:21] <X_Force> ok .. then a filesystem thing .. is ext3 able to do?
[06:21] <Pollywog> GoldeNArX: do drivers exist in Linux for your card?
[06:22] <GoldeNArX> Pollywog : no "in" linux but they do exist
[06:22] <X_Force> no its .. a bit more that the jornaling .
[06:22] <Lattyware> Hey all, I only get microphone audio when I run alsamixer from the terminal and enable 'analog mixer' with the m key - and then the quality sucks. Anyone know why?
[06:22] <Pollywog> oh then you need ndiswrapper I think.  I did not need to use it.
[06:22] <X_Force> you as programmer are able to start a transaction .. for example mit begintransaction() ..
[06:22] <LjL> berent: eh?! boot an ISO?
[06:22] <kelsin> SirDucer: in a terminal have you run "sudo alsaconf", if not you can definitely try it, it might clear some config issues that the ubuntu installer created by accident
[06:22] <Pollywog> there are howtos on the forums for that situation
[06:22] <GoldeNArX> ndiswrapper eh?
[06:22] <berent> yes LjL : cant we boot it
[06:22] <X_Force> and if there is an error .. for example .. the user presses cancel .
[06:23] <GoldeNArX> the forums are down right now I beleive
[06:23] <X_Force> you can do a rollback ..
[06:23] <GoldeNArX> lol just when I need to use them (of course)
[06:23] <LjL> berent: 1) of course, if you mount something somewhere, you'll see what you've mounted, not what was at the mountpoint previously, seems quite natural
[06:23] <eck> X_Force: afaik there is not even an api to do filesystem level writes in userspace
[06:23] <carlosqueso> naw...forums back up (partially
[06:23] <eck> you just have to use read() and write() :-)
[06:23] <finalbeta> X_Force: that wont be a kernel feature.
[06:23] <LjL> berent: 2) how in the world are you going to boot from a *file*?
[06:23] <LjL> berent: burn it to a CD, then boot.
[06:23] <X_Force> finalbeta: why not ? is a nice feature
[06:23] <GoldeNArX> just back online now actually
[06:23] <finalbeta> X_Force: please give us your source, you are making little sense.
[06:23] <papp1>
[06:24] <papp1> hello
[06:24] <SirDucer> Kelsin: it says "sudo alsaconf: command not found
[06:24] <Pollywog> Ah yes alacarte is just what I needed  :)
[06:24] <tipsy> Anydoby available to help with my USB headset - Soundblaster Live sound card issue?
[06:24] <papp1> can semone help me with a problem?
[06:24] <LjL> !helpme
[06:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:24] <papp1> someone
[06:24] <Lattyware> Hey all, I only get microphone audio when I run alsamixer from the terminal and enable 'analog mixer' with the m key - and then the quality sucks. Anyone know why?
[06:24] <tipsy> ymy question's kinda long, but here goes:
[06:24] <berent> LjL: Ok ok but since i have a vmlinuz and initrd.gz at the mount point cant i copy it to my boot sector and give  a grub entry
[06:25] <carlosqueso> papp1, ask away and we'll see
[06:25] <X_Force> ok . here ius the link :http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.transactions(vs.80).aspx
[06:25] <X_Force> (its the the new Namespace in c#
[06:25] <papp1> does anyone know if there support for a HP ScanJet 4p scanner?
[06:25] <jannu1> where i can see what version of ntfs-3g im using?
[06:26] <finalbeta> X_Force: that's a language thing. Depends on the programming language.
[06:26] <finalbeta> It's .NET...
[06:26] <tipsy> After installing Ubuntu my onboard soundcard was recongnized as was my Plantronics USB headset, but my soundblaster wasn't.  I went to Alsa-project.org and installled the emu10k1 module to get the Soundblaster working, but now my USB headset isn't recognized as a sound device
[06:26] <kelsin> SirDucer: "sudo aptitude install alsa-utils" first then try "sudo alsaconf"
[06:26] <X_Force> but the OS must support ...
[06:26] <X_Force> and its allso accessable throug winapu .
[06:26] <X_Force> *winapi .
[06:26] <tipsy> The USB headset is listed in lsusb though
[06:26] <X_Force> therefor it must be kernel suportet thing ..
[06:27] <carlosqueso> jannu1: if you installed through apt, synaptic or checkinstall you can use apt-cache show ntfs-3g
[06:27] <finalbeta> X_Force: and it's probably only on Databases, are you sure it's even for file system access?
[06:27] <LjL> berent: err... the thing that resides in the boot sector *is* GRUB. and you don't want to overwrite GRUB, trust me. and no, you can't make a GRUB entry for that kernel, because it's not on a real filesystem, but just inside an ISO. if you want to copy the whole thing to the real filesystem, you can, and then you can also make a GRUB entry... but that will only boot the Puppy-provided *kernel*, it won't boot Puppy itself.
[06:27] <carlosqueso> or try ntfs3g (or whatever the command to start it is) -v
[06:27] <Chetwin> Can anyone help me, the ubuntu live cd does not have fsck.hfs so how can I scan an OSX partition????
[06:27] <SirDucer> kelsin: still says "sudo aslaconf: command not found"
[06:27] <eck> X_Force: I think you need to check the API of the programming language you intend to use, this is something that could be abstracted at a higher level even if it is not in the kernel
[06:27] <tipsy> How can i get the USB headset to work with the Soundblaster card?
[06:27] <jannu1> carlosqueso i instelled from sources, first i removed old version from synaptic then installed from sources
[06:27] <LjL> berent: look, if you just want to try out Puppy without wasting a CD, just use an emulator.
[06:28] <frankzhao> what is the short cut for going to desktop?
[06:28] <Chetwin> Can anyone help me, the ubuntu live cd does not have fsck.hfs so how can I scan an OSX partition????
[06:28] <Juhaz> frankzhao, ctrl+alt+d
[06:28] <jannu1> ctrl+alt +d
[06:28] <frankzhao> thanks a lot,it worked
[06:28] <kelsin> SirDucer: did it look like the alsa-utils package installed fine?
[06:28] <jannu1> or install xbindkeys and bind own shortcut
[06:28] <Lattyware> Hey all, I only get microphone audio when I run alsamixer from the terminal and enable 'analog mixer' with the m key - and then the quality sucks. Anyone know why?
[06:29] <kelsin> SirDucer: you can try "sudo /usr/sbin/alsaconf" if so
[06:29] <X_Force> here it says :Windows Vista is the first general purpose consumer-grade OS that provides transactional support (ACID) for file IO and Windows Registry modification operations
[06:29] <RustyJames> !iso > me
[06:29] <Chetwin> Can anyone help me, the ubuntu live cd does not have fsck.hfs so how can I scan an OSX partition????
[06:29] <SirDucer> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[06:29] <SirDucer> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:29] <SirDucer> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[06:29] <SirDucer> eeek
[06:29] <SirDucer> sorry
[06:29] <kelsin> SirDucer: it might already be installed
[06:29] <berent> LjL : is iso a different filesystem than ext3
[06:29] <X_Force> but i dont care where it is implements .. i just want to know if it is possible under linux ..
[06:29] <kats_> Question: Has anyone tried to get Acronis True Image Startup Recovery before grub?  ^^
[06:29] <finalbeta> X_Force:  k nice, Linux doesn't support it.
[06:29] <X_Force> (ext3)
[06:29] <eck> X_Force: are you trying to develop with this feature?
[06:30] <LjL> berent, ISO is not a filesystem. ISO is simply a format that you can dump CD to, for making images of them. but yes, CDs normally use other filesystems than ext3 (UDF or ISO9660, usually, IIRC)
[06:30] <kelsin> SirDucer: "sudo dpkg -l | grep alsa-utils" that will return one line if it is installed, try "sudo /usr/sbin/alsaconf" as well
[06:30] <X_Force> it would be a good feature because it makes the data consitent .
[06:30] <LjL> berent: GRUB doesn't have the slightest idea how to read inside an ISO file in any case.
[06:30] <finalbeta> In linux you would be using a temp version of the file, but I don't know how Vista implements it, it might be much slower to use the temp file.
[06:30] <eck> X_Force: journalling will ensure that the data is consistent
[06:30] <X_Force> if someone want the msdn link:
[06:30] <X_Force> http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=287192
[06:30] <X_Force> ok .. but jornalin is a filesysetm level n .
[06:31] <Chetwin> What can I use to repair an HFS volume
[06:31] <X_Force> not a thelogic level of your application .
[06:31] <eck> X_Force: this is just an API that makes doing high level FS operations more simple, it doesn't provie any new features over a journalling FS
[06:31] <X_Force> yeah i know .. but is there also a similar thing in linux ?
[06:31] <eck> X_Force: no
[06:32] <eck> X_Force: maybe in mono this is implement, i'm not sure
[06:32] <berent> LjL: ok but if i have to burn it why should i mount it
[06:32] <LjL> berent: indeed, why? i only told you how to mount it because you *asked* how to mount it.
[06:32] <kelsin> SirDucer: I have to run and catch a bus, really sorry, keep those urls for pastebin in case someone else wants to look at them. It does sound like your drivers are installed fine, I frankly confused that it's not working. obviously double check all volumes and headphone jacks and your speakers etc, good luck
[06:32] <noobian> hi all
[06:32] <GoldeNArX> well I just cannot get this to work. FARG!
[06:32] <fbc> I did the alternate install CD and I remember is asking me for the user password, but never a username. What is the defautl username with the alternate installation cd?
[06:32] <X_Force> dont think so .. because someone must check for uncompletet files at system startuptime .
[06:33] <berent> LjL :i mean whats the  use of mounting when we cant use them
[06:33] <SirDucer> kelsin: the sudo dpkg came up with "ii  alsa-utils                                 1.0.11-6ubuntu2                      ALSA utilities"
[06:33] <noobian> how can i reverse this? /usr/sbin/lircd -H dev/input -d /dev/input/eventn
[06:33] <kitche> fbc: whatever you put in it's usually before it asks you for a password where it asks you for a username
[06:33] <tipsy> How can i set up my USB headset with a Soundblaster Live sound card?
[06:33] <eck> X_Force: you clearly don't understand what the msdn docs describe, it doesn't have to do with FS consistency
[06:33] <LjL> berent: ....?  excuse me, do you think that the *only* use of CD-ROMs is to boot from them?
[06:33] <eck> that is a journalling thing
[06:33] <X_Force> here is a code snipe :http://community.bartdesmet.net/blogs/bart/archive/2006/11/05/Windows-Vista-_2D00_-Introducing-TxF-in-C_2300_-_2800_part-1_2900_-_2D00_-Transacted-file-delete.aspx
[06:33] <carlosqueso> SirDucer: just a thought...have you recompiled your kernel with *only* the drivers for your sound card compiled directly in (as in answer Y rather than N)
[06:33] <X_Force> => this link shows ..
[06:33] <carlosqueso> worked for me
[06:33] <kelsin> SirDucer: yeah try "sudo /usr/sbin/alsaconf" then, I'll be on later tonight again"
[06:33] <berent> LjL :No
[06:33] <LjL> berent: mounting an ISO gives you access to all the files that are contained in it, without first burning it to a CD. that seems an useful enough thing to be able to do, to me.
[06:33] <fbc> kitchie: So how do I find out what that was?
[06:34] <kelsin> carlosqueso: he's a brand new linux user that JUST installed ubuntu P:)
[06:34] <X_Force> i do know that this is no FS thing. .
[06:34] <eck> X_Force: it is just an api, it is not a novel feature provided by the windows kernel
[06:34] <SirDucer> kelsin: but the sudo /usr/sbin/alsaconf can up with command not found
[06:34] <kitche> fbc: umm mount the drive and look at your /etc/passwd file and see if there is soemthing in there that you remember
[06:34] <Dr_willis> berent,  i mount .iso files all the time... very handy.
[06:34] <X_Force> but the question is if there will be a similar api for linux ..
[06:34] <fbc> kitche: thanx, will do...
[06:34] <noobian> how can i reverse this? /usr/sbin/lircd -H dev/input -d /dev/input/eventn
[06:35] <eck> X_Force: there is no such API for C
[06:35] <X_Force> eck: ok that was the thing i wanted to hear ..
[06:35] <ralth> Hello everyone!  Question:  what file do I need to change to have 915resolution start at boot?
[06:35] <eck> there's no reason it couldn't be implemented in C though
[06:35] <morphinex> hey folks, more grub problems
[06:35] <eck> so a higher level language could implement this feature if the devs were interested
[06:36] <eck> you would have to check the API of the programming language you want to use
[06:36] <tipsy> How can i get a USB headset working with an emu10k1 module?
[06:36] <JuJuBee> Hello.  What preference file is the desktop picture selection saved in?
[06:36] <berent> LjL Dr_willis : when we can see and get all the things contained in iso why do we need external storage to boot it?
[06:36] <X_Force> eck: no programan language currently supports this (MS .NET 2.0 ?  and the dll for c)
[06:37] <eck> X_Force: if one did, i would imagine that it would be mono (the FOSS implementation of C#)
[06:37] <LjL> berent: because GRUB doesn't know how to read an ISO. i think i said this.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> berent,  no idea what you mean about 'booting' it.. I boot my .iso files with vmware all the time.. thats how i  use them.
[06:37] <eck> X_Force: http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page
[06:37] <X_Force> sry .. wrong ifno .http://www.mono-project.com/Transactions
[06:37] <mirek> PL   ????
[06:37] <LjL> berent: GRUB is a bootloader. it runs *way* before Linux is started, so *way* before it can mount anything. GRUB needs to know how to read filesystems *by itself*, with no help from Linux, since it isn't *running*
[06:37] <Pollywog> btw why is it called mono... any particular reason?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> berent,  i DO belive ive seen special boot-cd's that can boot.load from an .iso file. but its not just a 'grub' feature' DSL linux can do this
[06:37] <Dr_willis> berent,  as can PuppyLinux
[06:37] <mirek> sa polacy ??
[06:37] <LjL> !pl | mirek
[06:37] <X_Force> seem to be done already ..
[06:37] <ubotu> mirek: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:38] <morphinex> I am booting off a livecd, so when I change grub options on the HD i want to boot off, how do i make those changes stick?
[06:38] <qfour20> I seem to have completely forgotten how on earth to manually install grub.  I have a prepared ubuntu install that died on grub install.  How do I direct grub to install on /dev/hdd (should be hd3, right?)
[06:38] <tkp> hi
[06:39] <LjL> !grub > qfour20    (qfour20, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:39] <eck> qfour20: the easiest way is with grub-install
[06:39] <Dr_willis> morphinex,  if you change the PROPER /boot/grub/menu.lst they should stay
[06:39] <morphinex> Dr_willis: why/how?
[06:39] <Dr_willis> morphinex,  i just was testing out the 'super grub' boot cd. it has a lot of options where it can try to auto-fix your grub stuff
[06:39] <tkp> I just upgraded to Edgy and I now seem to be unable to install trac because of problems with one of it's dependencies (python-clearsilver)
[06:39] <morphinex> Dr_willis: now that my machine can't boot, I can't really make a grub super disk ;)
[06:39] <Dr_willis> morphinex,  you mount your installed system. (it may get auto mounted) then you cd to the /media/mountpount/boot/grub and edit the menu.lst
[06:39] <berent> LjL Dr_willis : ok so only when i have two root points(which is impossible) i will be able to mount iso on hard disk right
[06:40] <LjL> berent: what is a root point?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> morphinex,  got a floppy disk/drive? it  can do it from floppy also.
[06:40] <morphinex> Dr_willis: yeah, that is what I did
[06:40] <morphinex> Dr_willis: I don't have a floppy drive either
[06:40] <berent> LjL: like i have ubuntu at /
[06:40] <tipsy> My USB headset isn't working  after i installed new alsa drivers, how can i get the headset working again?
[06:40] <teeL> Does anyone know where i can get this phpsysinfo template? http://tobby007.no-ip.org/info/
[06:40] <Dr_willis> berent,  Huh?   Not sure what you are trying todo...
[06:40] <LjL> berent: no. that's not the problem.
[06:40] <Dr_willis> berent,   you can make a .iso file 'mount' anywhere.
[06:40] <X_Force> other question. . it know that this question is silly . but anyway .. is the linux kernel faster then the MS's kernels ?
[06:41] <Dr_willis> but mountingit to / is not exactly very proper.
[06:41] <LjL> berent: when GRUB starts, it's instructed where to look for the root partition. you can make a GRUB entry with a different one. it simply *can't be an ISO*, that's the only problem.
[06:41] <nickspoon> Hmm.
[06:41] <Dr_willis> X_Force,  its got much more people tweaking and working on it.. so i would say yes.
[06:41] <axiety> hellow, can someone help me use Gnome-RDP ?
[06:41] <berent> LjL Dr_willis : sorry i wanted to ask about boot not mount