[00:00] <knome> if you want, you might try an older version or then the minimal cd
[00:00] <knome> !minimal
[00:00] <Pato1> it is mostly a ram issue?
[00:00] <knome> yes
[00:01] <knome> if you can upgrade your ram to something like 512, you are in a way better position
[00:01] <knome> then i could suggest 9.04 for you
[00:01] <Pato1> does this type of instalation recognizes wpa2 wireless connections?
[00:02] <knome> no problem, if the wifi card is supported
[00:02] <Pato1> ok, thanks
[00:06] <NetLarIrvine> What are the minimum requirements?
[00:07] <knome> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[00:07] <knome> see the xubuntu section
[00:07] <NetLarIrvine> thanks
[00:07] <knome> under 256 ram is not really recommended.
[00:08] <NetLarIrvine> well that leaves me out
[00:08] <NetLarIrvine> only 92 ram here
[00:08] <NetLarIrvine> very old machin
[00:09] <NetLarIrvine> probably time to retire that pc
[00:15] <knome> that could run a cli :P
[00:16] <NetLarIrvine> cli?
[00:17] <knome> command line interface
[00:17] <NetLarIrvine> oh i know
[00:17] <NetLarIrvine> But I will need a pc to run apps for people on the house
[00:17] <NetLarIrvine> or even in the house, ha ha
[00:18] <knome> ;)
[00:26] <sml1226> hey knome i restarted and that stupid applet finally started working!!
[00:28] <knome> sml1226, nice ;)
[00:28] <sml1226> Now gnome panel is back thoug
[00:29] <sml1226> though
[00:29] <knome> heh ok...
[00:29] <sml1226> how do I disable it
[00:29] <sml1226> it acts like it is the default
[00:30] <knome> uhm...
[00:30] <knome> gnome-panel --replace? :/
[00:30] <sml1226> thats what i did last time and it came back after the restart
[00:30] <knome> check the session
[00:31] <knome> from settings
[00:32] <sml1226> worked thanks
[02:37] <Mooch> Has anyone had any success with dial up for version 8.10
[02:38] <Mooch> I just can't connect its begin to be a nightmare
[02:38] <Mooch> pppconfig utility on my pc for some reason is not working
[02:39] <Mooch> I am trying to get wvdial to work and no luck with that
[02:39] <Mooch> bad enough my Usb PCI didn't work
[02:41] <Mooch> I don't know if I should download gnome ppp or are there other options?
[02:43] <Mooch> anyone have any suggestions?
[02:46] <Mooch> any suggestions for dial up anyone?
[02:48] <Mooch> 8(
[02:51] <Mooch> I can't use ppconfig because something is wrong with the utility so and wvdial won't work because the terminal says Configuration does not specify a valid phone number Login name and paswword
[02:51] <Mooch> could it be because I have too many wvdial.conf files?
[02:53] <Mooch> Probably major of you have broadband and dial up is porbably the last thing on your mind
[02:54] <Mooch> I don't like dial up myself but I am stuck with it and the looks of it I wish I had broadband
[02:56] <Mooch> But if there is someone that can help me please let me know
[02:58] <Mooch> well ummmmm I guess no one wants to help I hate bother anyone but I am just trying resolve this issue so I can get gnome ppp
[02:59] <Mooch> I would really appreciate some help
[03:05] <Mooch> well I apparently am not going to receive any help so long then
[03:12] <dbdii407> Why does xUbuntu 9 Just freeze? I wouldn't say freeze but will not let me click, drag, or move anything? (I can still type on the current window but that's it)
[03:17] <sml1226> Export GTK_MODULES=globalmenu-gnome in your profile.  HOW?  What does it mean?  To it or from it?
[03:34] <sml1226> Actually I am not sure thats the problem because it gives another option and it sort of works
[03:34] <sml1226> Instead of laying the menus on the panel like it should I get a drop-down menu with the menus in it.
[03:34] <sml1226> It works in the gnome panel but only partially in the xfce panel
[03:34] <sml1226> would exporting get it to work with xfce?
[04:31] <R1cochet> is there an app that can respond to an ad online via email? similar to outlook
[05:20] <Devilsprey99> my twittux doesnot connect anyone got any idea
[09:30] <GINZ> Hi, I have installed the latest version of XUBUNTU from a bootable CD burnt from a torrent my son sent me. IT seemed to be fine , booted, logged in etc but the quit button just removed the task bars and left the desktop and icons .
[09:31] <GINZ> I right clicked on empty spage and did applications/logout and got the shutdown panel. I chose restart, and it got past login to the bluey screen and hung there
[09:31] <GINZ>  Any suggestions?
[09:31] <GINZ> I used the red and black buttons oon the front of the tower to close down
[09:32] <GINZ>  Next time I booted, it got past login to the blue screen and hung again
[09:33] <GINZ> Would it make sense for me to get  the XUBUNTU dowonload on this Windows machine, Burn the bootable CD here and use it to reinstall?
[09:49] <GINZ> Oh are you here?
[09:50] <SiDi> GINZ, we're there yeh
[09:50] <GINZ> I typed a problem here a few minutes ago
[09:50] <SiDi> so you get a blue login screen when logging in, now ?
[09:50] <GINZ> yes that is correct
[09:51] <GINZ>  I am typing on my XP machine
[09:51] <SiDi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351293
[09:51] <SiDi> it's likely this bug
[09:51] <GINZ> The login was normal but after that  it went straight to the pale bluey grey screen
[09:51] <GINZ> Thanks
[09:52] <SiDi> Yeh, the session cannot fully load because of a bug in the opensource drivers, apparently
[09:52] <GINZ> Thanks
[09:52] <SiDi> GINZ, does Alt+F2 work on the blueish desktop ?
[09:52] <SiDi> if so, please type "xfce4-panel in it"
[09:53] <GINZ>  I did see something during bootup about "fails cutoff" and "Acpi=force is required"
[09:53] <SiDi> hm
[09:53] <SiDi> I'm not the most experienced guy with those things (ie. i dont understand that bug :p) but i'll try to see with our developers if they can have a look
[09:54] <GINZ> lt and F2 got me a "Run Program" panel
[09:56] <GINZ> hmm did you mean the in it to be in that quote?
[09:59] <SiDi> Ok, GINZ
[10:00] <SiDi> type xfce4-panel -r
[10:00] <SiDi> inside that run window
[10:00] <SiDi> and tell me if the panels popup :)
[10:01] <GINZ> nothing  just returns to the panel
[10:02] <GINZ> ah  running xfce4-panel  does bring back the task bars
[10:02] <GINZ> t only those, not the desktop
[10:03] <SiDi> okey
[10:03] <SiDi> run "xfdesktop --reload"
[10:04] <SiDi> im trying to find out all the things that need to be booted :p
[10:05] <GINZ> nothing happens
[10:07] <SiDi> xfdesktop alone then ?
[10:08] <GINZ> yes that brought desktop up
[10:12] <GINZ> So is there a way to set these to work automatically or will I need to runo those two  things every time I boot up?
[10:19] <GINZ> Do you also have any advice for getting the quit button to shut down the computer, instread of just hiding the taskbars?
[10:20] <SiDi> ill write you a quick script that'll boot those two things
[10:20] <SiDi> try to see if there appears to be something "missing"
[10:21] <SiDi> GINZ, i think the quit button not working is more or less the same bug :]
[10:21] <GINZ> thanks
[10:23] <SiDi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/183525/
[10:23] <SiDi> put the 5 lines of this file into a file named ".initrc" (dont forget the .)
[10:23] <SiDi> and then type chmod +x .initrc in a terminal
[10:24] <SiDi> it's a *dirty* workaround. When the bug will be fixed you'll have to remove it ;p
[10:27] <GINZ> Thanks
[10:29] <GINZ> shall I need to put "sudo" in front of the "chmod "
[10:33] <GINZ> Does that file need to be in a particular part of the file system?
[10:33] <GINZ> or just on desktop?
[10:39] <_Pete_> GINZ: it should be in your homedir
[10:40] <GINZ> thanks
[11:04] <GINZ> I followed these instructions. but got errors. please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/183542/
[11:17] <cemunal> will not i use nvidia 71* series drivers with latest xorg version?
[12:48] <premorphos> hey im on a wifi office network and i want to see all computers and shared folders. question: how?
[12:53] <premorphos> is there some thing like "my network places" from windows in xubuntu?
[12:54] <GINZ> Premorphos, In Places do you see anything that looks similar to Network places?
[12:54] <GINZ> Wooops
[12:54] <GINZ> Look in Applications/ accessories and I think there is a networks thing there
[12:55] <GINZ> that may be where
[12:55] <GINZ> Like you I know it from Windows
[12:56] <premorphos> GINZ: tnx for youre reply... but no thing like that.
[12:56] <GINZ> My Xubuntu is not yet set up so I cannot check for you
[12:58] <GINZ> I think you 'll have to kust look into everything in Applications and Accessories maybe even system (but be careful there) and see if there is anything that looks like network or interneet
[12:58] <premorphos> yes that is the problem.. im so used windows.. what do you use and on what os
[12:58] <premorphos> to find network places
[12:58] <GINZ> I know I was asking recently how to see the LAN and it is in there somewhere
[12:58] <GINZ> I usually use Win XP
[12:59] <GINZ>  but am setting up an old computer in Xubuntu on the LAN
[13:00] <premorphos> i got to say.. xubuntu sure rocks..
[13:03] <GINZ> well the newest upgrade has hit the rocks as far as I am concerned
[13:04] <GINZ> got a bug or maybe several
[13:05] <GINZ> I am firing it up to see if I can remember where to look for the LAN
[13:05] <GINZ> My son told me in an email but all the emails have the same subject which makes it hopeless finding things
[13:08] <GINZ> nah  I will have to reinstall the whole thing
[13:08] <GINZ> won;t open
[13:09] <GINZ> but I am sure it was in one of those menues
[13:09] <premorphos> yes im looking but cant find any thing similar
[13:10] <GINZ> sorry.
[13:10] <premorphos> no prob... tnx for trying
[13:15] <GINZ> np
[13:30] <premorphos> anyone using a good GUI Lanmanager?
[13:46] <tyranos> hi ,i wish to remove the verve shell  panel-applet  and i can't !!
[13:49] <ptizzy> i have to right-click on the very top edge of the verve "box" to get the context menu.  it's a little tricky
[13:52] <tyranos> ptizzy, thx finally , i tried left and right before but top was actually on the firefox status :P,
[13:55] <Aqa> there is network monitor with speed limit option , that can limit my internet connection speed?
[13:55] <Aqa> on my panel
[13:55] <ptizzy> np tyranos.  i wish there was a way to access a menu list of all applets on a particular panel that would allow one to remove specific applets
[13:58] <tyranos> i mean even gnome has such problems and even more , as the gnome-panel gets confused when placed in a vertical positions
[14:00] <ramrod> i installed jaunty amd64 and i cant set twinview
[14:00] <ramrod> it says
[14:00] <ramrod> VALIDATION ERROR:  Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[14:00] <ramrod> Undefined Device "(null)" referenced by Screen "Default Screen"
[14:02] <ramrod> and when i press on the save to xorg button it says "Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!" even when i sudo nvidia-settings
[14:09] <ramrod> ah i rebuilt my xorg now its working
[14:09] <ramrod> *THUMBS UP*
[16:35] <ToStItOs> If my dial up modem initializes but then the terminal says 'Configuration does not specify a valid phone number login and so forth what does it mean?
[16:37] <_Pete_> maybe what the error says?
[16:38] <ToStItOs> Well I have all the info in there already so I stumped on why
[16:39] <_Pete_> so recheck every info you have is configured in correct place in your Configuration
[16:42] <ToStItOs> when I created my ISP record I used the sudo wvdial /etc/wvdial.conf and I tried to save the file then I got a error about root not being a directory so I put the wvdial record in the root directory
[16:43] <_Pete_> are you sure it was "root not being a directory" ?
[16:44] <ToStItOs> yeah said root no such file or directory so I put the wvdial.conf file in the root directory and my modem almost worked then
[16:45] <_Pete_> what exactly are you trying to do?
[16:46] <ToStItOs> I want to delete the wvdial.conf duplicate files and see if my modem will dial out
[16:46] <_Pete_> with modem you mean "old school" ones that actually dial via teleline ?
[16:46] <ToStItOs> yeah
[16:47] <_Pete_> then I am out of knowledge
[16:47] <_Pete_> or better said forgotten all that
[16:48] <ToStItOs> ok but do you know how to delete duplicate files with gksu gedit
[16:48] <_Pete_> what do you mean with duplicate files ?
[16:49] <ToStItOs> I have wvdial.conf duplicate files that were created when I was trying to create my ISP info
[16:50] <ToStItOs> I have about 4 files
[16:50] <ToStItOs> I just want to delete them
[16:51] <DetroitLibertyPe> in buntu is there an option to run LXDE insted of XFCE
[16:51] <TheSheep> !lxde
[16:52] <TheSheep> DetroitLibertyPe: I think you can apt-get it
[16:52] <DetroitLibertyPe> right, but once I do that, how do I change it so that when I boot it boots into LXDE instead of XFCE
[16:53] <DetroitLibertyPe> would the LXDE package automatically ad something to GRUB forcing me to choose each time, or what?
[16:53] <ToStItOs> Anyone know how to delete files in gedit
[16:53] <TheSheep> ToStItOs: use a file manager instead, gedit is just a text editor
[16:53] <TheSheep> DetroitLibertyPe: it will add an option to your login screen
[16:53] <DetroitLibertyPe> OK
[16:53] <ToStItOs> I didn't think about that duh
[16:53] <TheSheep> DetroitLibertyPe: under 'sessions'
[16:54] <TheSheep> DetroitLibertyPe: just like installing gnome and kde does
[16:54] <DetroitLibertyPe> TheSheep: didn't know that either
[16:54] <DetroitLibertyPe> my 10 year old machine doens't like Gnome or KDE
[16:54] <DetroitLibertyPe> Windowmaker, now that's where its at!
[16:55] <ToStItOs> TheSheep but even if the file is a wvdial.conf file
[16:55] <TheSheep> DetroitLibertyPe: there is wmaker for xubuntu too
[16:56] <ToStItOs> TheSheep I won't need admin privileges to delete the files I don't need correct?
[16:58] <TheSheep> ToStItOs: depends on where the files are and who owns them
[16:59] <ToStItOs> TheSheep the files are in the etc folder so you said use a file manager and will it let me ?
[16:59] <ToStItOs> delete the files that way
[17:00] <TheSheep> ToStItOs: start it with 'gksu thunar' command, then it works as root -- be careful, you can break your system easily working as root
[17:01] <ToStItOs> Hows that ?
[17:01] <TheSheep> you will be able to delete and change stuff that's part of the system
[17:01] <vinnl> ToStItOs, which files are they? Are you absolutely sure it's safe to delete them?
[17:02] <ToStItOs> hmmm well its the wvdial.conf files
[17:03] <vinnl> What do they do and why do you want to delete them?
[17:03] <vinnl> (Just making sure you're not doing anything potentially harmful, I wouldn't like that for you to happen ;-)
[17:04] <ToStItOs> vinnl I want to redo my ISP info because something is wrong with the configuration
[17:04] <vinnl> Why don't you just edit the existing files then?
[17:04] <ToStItOs> but doesn't create another file afterward
[17:05] <ToStItOs> it
[17:05] <vinnl> What?
[17:06] <ToStItOs> When I edit the file doesn't it create another file?
[17:06] <vinnl> Ehm, no... It edits the existing file
[17:07] <ToStItOs> I was looking at the file I check the configuration and it looked ok but the terminal keeps telling me that theres no valid phone number and so on
[17:08] <ToStItOs> this is the message I get 'The configuration does not specify a valid phone numver log in name
[17:09] <vinnl> ToStItOs, do you happen to have a .wvdialrc file in your home directory? That might overwrite your configuration
[17:10] <vinnl> Also, why are you doing this manually? Xubuntu includes an graphical application to manage your network connection
[17:10] <ToStItOs> hmmm let me check my other pc brb
[17:11] <ToStItOs> well long story but I basically I have ubuntu I want to migrate to Xubuntu 8.10 but without a connection I am at a loss
[17:11] <ToStItOs> but let me check that file brb
[17:11] <vinnl> Is the connection working on Ubuntu?
[17:11] <ToStItOs> no
[17:11] <ToStItOs> thats my problem right now
[17:12] <vinnl> Right
[17:12] <vinnl> !network
[17:12] <vinnl> Hmm
[17:12] <TheSheep> !ppp
[17:13] <vinnl> TheSheep, ^.^
[17:13] <ToStItOs> vinnl I have talked to you before I am a friend of Knome
[17:13] <knome> o.O ? :)
[17:13] <vinnl> Ah :)
[17:13] <vinnl> I wouldn't remember, sorry :P
[17:20] <lsbrum> How i disable XFCE sounds?
[17:25] <vinnl> lsbrum, which sounds?
[17:28] <lsbrum> vinnl: Event sounds.
[17:28] <vinnl> Which events? :P
[17:28] <lsbrum> vinnl: Bips, when open a folder or something..
[17:28] <lsbrum> When close..
[17:29] <lsbrum> vinnl: Sorry for my English a im from Brazil..
[17:29] <vinnl> Hmm, sounds like an accesibility setting, let me look for it :)
[17:30] <vinnl> lsbrum, a quick Google search brought up this: http://blog.xfce.org/2008/10/event-sounds-in-xfce-44-46/ :)
[17:39] <lsbrum> vinnl: Thanks..
[17:39] <lsbrum> vinnl: I go to test.
[18:33] <Guest93733> i have 8.04 i tried to run twittux but it wont connect
[18:33] <Guest93733> *twitux
[18:34] <Guest93733> any suggestions
[18:48] <DetroitLibertyPe> Guest93733: what is twitux?
[18:54] <Guest93733> twitter client
[18:55] <DetroitLibertyPe> did you download it from apt-get or try to compile, or what?
[18:56] <DetroitLibertyPe> not that I really know, all I really know is that twitter is the bein of my existance, that and the damn iPhone.
[18:56] <Guest93733> yep from synaptic
[19:43] <Guest10354> my firefox starts on work oflline mode as default. Can anyone tell me how to change that
[19:46] <Guest10354> *work offline
[19:53] <genii> Guest10354: user_pref("browser.offline", false);    in ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/prefs.js
[19:59] <Guest10354> shall i add the command
[20:05] <Guest10354> thanks
[20:08] <ToStItOs> I have my dial up modem working:-D
[20:09] <ToStItOs> Thanks for all the help from anyone involved Pete The Sheep thanx
[20:09] <ToStItOs> Special thanx to vinnl
[20:09] <ToStItOs> and Knomw
[20:09] <ToStItOs> knome
[20:37] <likemindead> Hello all. Hope you're well. Anyone up for some Conky tweaking?
[20:37] <knome> you can try us
[20:37] <likemindead> :)
[20:37] <likemindead> http://paste.ubuntu.com/183877/
[20:38] <likemindead> http://imagebin.org/50859
[20:38] <likemindead> How do I get the temp to display properly?
[20:38] <knome> okay..? ;)
[20:38] <knome> temperature?
[20:38] <likemindead> Yeah, see it on the right? It's not reading anything.
[20:39] <knome> i suppose your cpu/hd has to support that feature.
[20:39] <likemindead> It should. It displays in hardinfo.
[20:40] <knome> mmhmm. both of them?
[20:40] <likemindead> I think the line I copied is wrong.
[20:41] <knome> http://conky.sourceforge.net/variables.html
[20:41] <knome> check that
[20:41] <knome> maybe that will help
[20:54] <mib_z3czo9> hi
[20:54] <likemindead> >__<
[20:55] <Carlis> Carlis
[20:55] <Carlis> Hi
[20:55] <Carlis> Can you see this page: www.hotelcasinoplaza.com ?
[20:55] <Carlis> in xubuntu ?
[20:56] <Carlis> Hi I need help
[20:56] <likemindead> Yes.
[20:56] <Carlis> Can you see this page: www.hotelcasinoplaza.com in xubuntu ?
[20:56] <likemindead> Yes.
[20:57] <Carlis> do u see the flash in www.hotelcasinoplaza.com ?
[20:57] <likemindead> No.
[20:57] <likemindead> Something's jacked up, for sure.
[20:58] <Carlis> what version of flash does firefox xubuntu have ?
[20:58] <Carlis> It`s this version: <IP_ADDRESS>. It`s not going to work
[20:59] <likemindead> Looks like.
[20:59] <Carlis> Is possible to put this flash version <IP_ADDRESS> in firefox xubuntu ?
[21:00] <likemindead> Yes. You can install any version you'd like.
[21:01] <Carlis> is that version in repository ?
[21:03] <Carlis> who can help me ?
[21:04] <Carlis> I need help
[21:04] <Carlis> Can you see the flash of this page: www.hotelcasinoplaza.com ?
[21:06] <Carlis> I need help
[21:06] <Carlis> anybody can help me ?
[21:07] <E144Mac> xubuntu 9.0.4
[21:08] <artistxe> that would depend Carlis
[21:08] <ToStItOs> How do I install gnome ppp
[21:09] <Carlis> what does ppp meaning ?
[21:09] <ToStItOs> I forgot I am nubie
[21:09] <Carlis> tos: Can you see the flash of this page: www.hotelcasinoplaza.com ?
[21:09] <ToStItOs> no
[21:10] <ToStItOs> I see the link
[21:11] <ToStItOs> I know the command is apt-get install but the program the name is gnome ppp is there a dash in between gnome and ppp
[21:11] <Carlis> Tos can you see the flash ?
[21:11] <ToStItOs> no
[21:12] <Carlis> what version of flash does firefox xubuntu have ?
[21:13] <Carlis> It`s the last version is not going to work
[21:13] <artistxe> Carlis : that you cannot see the flash on that page is a good thing maybe ?
[21:14] <artistxe> may be blocked by the ubuntu extensions for firefox
[21:14] <Carlis> I need to install <IP_ADDRESS> flash version to see the flash in firefox xubuntu
[21:14] <E144Mac> how do burn the images of xubuntu to a dvd+r and make them bootable?
[21:15] <Carlis> can u help me to fix it artistxe ?
[21:15] <artistxe> okay. it is a casino sight ( so why do you want to ) ?  and try disabling the add-on in your firefox preferences.
[21:16] <Carlis> do you see the flash artistxe ?
[21:17] <Carlis> did
[21:17] <artistxe> no. do you author that site ?
[21:17] <Carlis> no
[21:18] <Carlis> can you fix thi issue artstxe ?
[21:19] <artistxe> I tried diabling the firefox extension for Ubuntu . did nothing. maybe the site is not loading/working properly ? did you get there in another browser ?
[21:20] <Carlis> I can see the flash in firefox windows but with the flash version <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:20] <Carlis> With the last version that is <IP_ADDRESS> don`t work
[21:21] <artistxe> hmmm. I don't have any windows boxes anymore , but aren't some sites windows specific anyway ?
[21:22] <artistxe> I know that you cannot watch any programs on the "ABC Player" unless you are on windows or mac.
[21:23] <artistxe> I cannot see it being a flash problem ( or specifically a flash problem) if flash works everywhere else for you.
[21:25] <Carlis> can you fix this issue artistxe ?
[21:27] <Carlis> who can help me ?
[21:30] <artistxe> I think nobody can . that was my point.
[21:30] <artistxe> go nthere on windows
[21:31]  * artistxe turns off touchpad now :/
[21:34] <Designtec> Anyone here who can help me with some simple xubuntu noob questions?
[21:34] <Carlis> The solution is to install the flash version <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:34] <Carlis> That`s the solution to fix the issue
[21:35] <Carlis> but how do install that version ?
[21:35] <artistxe> did you install and fix it ?
[21:35] <artistxe> aha........
[21:36] <artistxe> find the package online and convert it if you need to ( from rpm or whatever with alin )
[21:36] <Carlis> In windows I have I have installed the flash version <IP_ADDRESS> and it`s work
[21:36] <artistxe> alie*
[21:36] <Carlis> and I hope in linux is going to work too
[21:36] <artistxe> alien*     argh....
[21:36] <Carlis> but I don`t know how to installk it in linux
[21:40] <Carlis> but how do i find the package online ?
[21:41] <Carlis> artistxe ?
[21:42] <artistxe> Carlis . google it
[21:42] <Carlis> can you give me me a complete help aristxe ???
[21:43] <Carlis> is it not in repository ?
[21:43] <artistxe> do you want that specific package version ???
[21:43] <knome> Carlis, you can't install an older flash version from the repository, Carlis
[21:44] <knome> oops. :)
[21:44] <puffandstuff> hello
[21:45] <knome> !hi | puffandstuff
[21:45] <puffandstuff> anyone tried to install kdevelop under 9.04 ? when i've installed it it contains only project templates for qt application when i try to create new project :(
[21:46] <knome> puffandstuff, what should it contain?
[21:46] <Carlis> I need to install the flash version <IP_ADDRESS> for firefox xubuntu
[21:46] <puffandstuff> knome, autoconf is the most missed feature
[21:47] <artistxe> Carlis, you would need to uninstall ( not wise) your current version . and then find a deb package somewhere of the version you do want. even then may not work . again the site may be windows specific ( as in the viruses they want to place on your computer need a path to install)
[21:47] <knome> puffandstuff, did it work earlier?
[21:47] <puffandstuff> knome, i need to be able to create an autotool project, but as i've said it only provide template for QT ! kdevelop 3.9.91
[21:47] <puffandstuff> knome, on 8.04 LTS all was fine and work great
[21:48] <knome> !attitude | puffandstuff
[21:48] <Carlis> It`s my first time
[21:49] <puffandstuff> knome, whe i said i need i didn't want to say "you must provide me such a fonctionality" i know that people are volounteers, i'm a colunteer too :/
[21:49] <artistxe> there is something that you are misunderstanding here.
[21:50] <puffandstuff> me ?
[21:51] <puffandstuff> I would like just if someone can verify on it's installation if it's possible to create an autotool project using kdevelop 3.9.91, and thank you in advance.
[21:53] <knome> puffandstuff, i suppose asking #kubuntu first would be wiseish, because they know about "k"(de) more
[21:53] <puffandstuff> knome, than you
[21:53] <knome> puffandstuff, if it works for them and not you even after trying what they suggested, come back here
[21:54] <knome> puffandstuff, then we can sort out if it's a xubuntu problem or a problem on your machine and jaunty
[22:01] <Carlis> nobody can help me then ?
[22:01] <knome> you can ask #ubuntu
[22:02] <knome> i think there is nobody here atm who can help
[22:02] <knome> just ask how to install flash 9 in 9.04/jaunty and see if somebody can help there
[22:03] <artistxe> Carlis. I just had a few ppl check that site . nobody I know can get to it.
[22:06] <Carlis> ok
[22:07] <Carlis> Thank you for helping me
[22:07] <artistxe> no problem. I say just find another site for casino play.
[22:08] <artistxe> I used to fix windows sytems and alot of them were filled with junk and viruses from casino sites. some of the systems were barely repairable
[22:14] <Designtec> I repair (if you can even call it that) windows systems for a living.  God bless M$ and all their ills, they pay my mortgage :-)
[22:14] <Carlis> nobody talk in #Ubuntu channel
[22:17] <arualavi> Carlis, #ubuntu with small "u"
[22:22] <arualavi> Carlis, nevermind, redirects to the same channel :-P
[22:23] <arualavi> but they are talking
[23:46] <bruce_> I opened jockey-gtk and it says "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[23:46] <bruce_> do I need to manually install them?
[23:46] <cody-somerville> no
[23:46] <cody-somerville> it means none are needed
[23:47] <bruce_> cool
[23:47] <bruce_> thanks


[00:29] <cmaloney> Schools keep canceling
[00:55] <gamerchick02> i see that.
[01:35] <jrwren> 25min?
[01:35] <gamerchick02> looks like it yeah.
[01:56] <gamerchick02> 5 minutes?
[02:02] <waldo323_> Good evening
[02:02] <cmaloney> Eveing
[02:02] <cmaloney> We'll be starting in a few minutes.
[02:02] <gamerchick02> hi
[02:02] <gamerchick02> Downton.
[02:03] <gamerchick02> i am here however
[02:07] <cmaloney> Hello everyone!
[02:07] <cmaloney> Thank you for tuning in here if you have
[02:07] <cmaloney> Can I get a quick show of hands?
[02:07] <cmaloney> o/
[02:08] <gamerchick02> i'm here
[02:09] <gamerchick02> gosh Thomas Barrow doesn't get any better (he's a big jerky jerk)
[02:09] <cmaloney> If anyone else is here feel free to pipe in as needed
[02:09] <cmaloney> We have a few things to cover and I know there are thrre things folks are watching:
[02:09] <cmaloney> 1) Superbowl
[02:09] <cmaloney> 2) Downton Abbey
[02:09] <cmaloney> 3) School closings and weather reports
[02:10] <cmaloney> finally saw that JoDee's school is closed tomorrow. :)
[02:10] <cmaloney> I think any school that is open tomorrow is foolish
[02:10] <cmaloney> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-mi/912/detail/
[02:10] <cmaloney> ^ Here's the agenda
[02:10] <gamerchick02> i think you are right
[02:11] <cmaloney> Item #1: Ubuntu Global Jam
[02:11] <gamerchick02> thank ye for the link.
[02:11] <cmaloney> This coming weekend is the Ubuntu Global Jam
[02:11] <cmaloney> What does this mean?
[02:11] <cmaloney> It means we'll be meeting this weekend (virtually) to work on Ubuntu stuff
[02:11] <gamerchick02> 3, 2, 1... let's jam!
[02:12] <cmaloney> eg: Bug Traige, "Ask Ubuntu", documentation
[02:12] <cmaloney> Whatever floats your boat.
[02:12] <gamerchick02> awesome. that's gonna be in the IRC, right?
[02:12] <cmaloney> It's a great way to get involved with the community.
[02:12] <cmaloney> It'll be on IRC, and we might do a hangout
[02:12] <cmaloney> if someone wants to plan out an in-person meeting that would be great too
[02:13] <cmaloney> UNfortuantely I'm not able to plan something out in this short amount of time
[02:13] <cmaloney> so we'll at the very least meet online
[02:13] <gamerchick02> i think that's a good idea.
[02:13] <cmaloney> If you're participating feel free to say "I'm Jamming" and let us know
[02:13] <cmaloney> or join the hangout
[02:14] <cmaloney> Not sure if the hangout will be up all weekend but that's available if you want
[02:14] <cmaloney> (And where would one find this notional hangout link you might ask?)
[02:14] <cmaloney> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-mi/2968-michigan-ubuntu-global-jam-1504/
[02:14] <gamerchick02> google plus?
[02:15] <cmaloney> You can also get to it via the loco directory
[02:15] <gamerchick02> super smart
[02:15] <cmaloney> yeah, it's like they thought of everything
[02:15] <cmaloney> So anywho, we'll play it by ear and hopefully have a great time
[02:16] <cmaloney> scratch that, we WILL have a great time. :)
[02:16] <gamerchick02> cool! i'll chill some beers and hang in the IRC!
[02:16] <cmaloney> Because that's just how we roll
[02:16] <cmaloney> Any questions?
[02:16] <waldo323_> Not yet
[02:16] <gamerchick02> nope. gonna have fun this weekend for the global jam.
[02:16] <cmaloney> Apparently sportball is tied at half-time
[02:17] <cmaloney> OK, moving on to item #2
[02:17] <gamerchick02> and the Dowager is throwing shade all over the place.
[02:17] <waldo323_> What did they tie it to?
[02:17] <gamerchick02> LOL
[02:17] <cmaloney> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-mi/912/detail/ <- again, for those playing along at home
[02:17] <cmaloney> RELEASE PARTY APPROACHETH
[02:17] <gamerchick02> release party
[02:18] <cmaloney> Assuming they'll have us we'll be partying at Penguicon
[02:18] <gamerchick02> oooh. and that's in April, correct?
[02:18] <cmaloney> Which is April 26th-28th.
[02:18] <gamerchick02> seems like it never lines up for me.
[02:18] <waldo323_> What about a room party release party?
[02:18] <cmaloney> Ideally we'll be there on Friday after work
[02:19] <cmaloney> waldo323_: If you want to organize it. :)
[02:19] <waldo323_> I think Penguicon 24th -26th right?
[02:20] <cmaloney> You are most correct
[02:20] <cmaloney> 24th-26th
[02:20] <cmaloney> I fail maths
[02:20] <waldo323_> Having it at the bar is easier :-)
[02:20] <cmaloney> Yes, yes it is
[02:20] <cmaloney> we had it at the bar last year and it worked out pretty well
[02:20] <waldo323_> Lots of people have been saying different numbers even at the meetings
[02:20] <waldo323_> So don't feel bad
[02:21] <waldo323_> Maybe more signage would be good ?
[02:21] <cmaloney> I think adding it to my subliminal consciousness would be ace.
[02:22] <cmaloney> Regardless, there are things afoot at Penguicon that you will want to be a part of as pertaining to Ubuntu
[02:23] <cmaloney> so perchance one mught obtain passes to participate in such pertainment
[02:23] <gamerchick02> perhaps.
[02:23] <cmaloney> I'll firm up the date and time
[02:23] <cmaloney> If you just want to go for the release party it'll cost a day-pass to Penguicon
[02:24] <cmaloney> but since Penguicon is so awesome you'll want to get the weekend pass
[02:24] <cmaloney> Trust me
[02:24] <cmaloney> any questions?
[02:24] <cmaloney> http://2015.penguicon.org/ for tickets
[02:25] <cmaloney> Also if you can't make it to Pengiucon and wish to have a release party please let me know and I'll get it up on the calendar
[02:25] <cmaloney> We can have as many release parties as folks want to organize.
[02:26] <gamerchick02> i think it would be neat to have one over at the Red Ox near me. are there any ubuntu folks over by Oakland U?
[02:26] <cmaloney> Likely
[02:27] <cmaloney> If you want to organize it by all means
[02:27] <gamerchick02> ok let me see what i can do
[02:27] <cmaloney> I think it would be awesome to have more than one party.
[02:28] <gamerchick02> yeah. i can see if there might be some people interested from work too.
[02:28] <cmaloney> Very cool
[02:30] <gamerchick02> yeah. and if it doesn't work out as an ubuntu thing i won't be alone with some co-workers around. hah!
[02:30] <cmaloney> Nice
[02:30] <cmaloney> OK, any questions on the release party(ies)?
[02:32] <gamerchick02> maybe later once i mull it over some more.
[02:33] <cmaloney> OK, last item
[02:33] <cmaloney> Ubuntu Developer Summit: http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[02:34] <cmaloney> UDS is coming up in May
[02:34] <cmaloney> This is a great way to help out with Ubuntu and get involved.
[02:35] <cmaloney> They are online using Google Hangouts
[02:35] <cmaloney> So you don't have to travel to some remote land in order to participate
[02:36] <gamerchick02> that's cool. i've never been to one.
[02:36] <gamerchick02> i'm not really a developer though
[02:36] <cmaloney> You don't have to be a programmer. :)
[02:37] <gamerchick02> ah ok.
[02:37] <brousch> what's up?
[02:37] <cmaloney> They cover things like documentation, translation, community, etc.
[02:37] <gamerchick02> cool!
[02:37] <cmaloney> I don't think the schedule is posted yet but should be posted soon
[02:37] <gamerchick02> brousch i'm following the meeting in between shade thrown at Downton Abbey.
[02:40] <cmaloney> Any questions?
[02:40] <gamerchick02> I'm good i think
[02:42] <cmaloney> Any other business anyone would like to bring up?
[02:44] <gamerchick02> i don't have any
[02:44] <gamerchick02> it's like you're speaking to an empty room... "don't everyone speak up at once"
[02:48] <cmaloney> Heh, no worries
[02:49] <cmaloney> Im used to it
[02:50] <gamerchick02> :)
[03:01] <cmaloney> OK, if there's nothing else then hope everyone enjoys their evening
[03:01] <cmaloney> and hope you all can work from home tomorrow morning
[03:01] <cmaloney> because it looks like an utter mess out there.
[03:01] <_stink_> is it time to go shovel again?
[03:01] <cmaloney> And apparently Sportball is 24-21
[03:01] <cmaloney> in favor of one team over the other
[03:02] <_stink_> yeah we haven't even turned it on
[03:02] <cmaloney> I watched a bit of the Kitten Bowl training cam
[03:03] <cmaloney> I'm good
[03:03] <_stink_> hahaha
[03:03] <_stink_> we had the puppy bowl on for like 1.5 hours
[03:03] <cmaloney> That is awesome
[03:03] <cmaloney> We played "Roll for the Galaxy"
[03:03] <cmaloney> Had a learning round of that but picked up pretty quickly
[03:04] <cmaloney> fun game
[03:08] <cmaloney> https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/132531/roll-galaxy if anyone is interested
[03:09] <gamerchick02> i watched Downton and now it's Grantchester, aka super-hot-ginger-vicar-who's-an-amateur-detective
[03:09] <gamerchick02> looks like a cool game!
[03:10] <gamerchick02> ok, time for more Grantchester and then bed. getting up early tomorrow to... i'm not exactly sure. i might make it into work. hah!
[03:10] <gamerchick02> see everyone tomorrow!
[03:14] <cmaloney> Laterness
[05:48] <rick_h_> morning
[12:50] <_stink_> oh boy, timeo to shovel the same 2 foot drift AGAIN
[14:17] <gamerchick02> Thigh high drifts due to plowing!
[14:19] <gamerchick02> but the good news is that i'm getting plowed.
[14:19] <gamerchick02> snowplowed. ahem.
[14:20] <jrwren> gamerchick02: LOL
[14:20] <gamerchick02> :-D
[14:20] <gamerchick02> i fell over in a snowdrift!
[14:21] <jrwren> lol. wind blow you down?
[14:22] <gamerchick02> no i misjudged a step and caught the edge
[14:22] <gamerchick02> it was buried in a snowdrift and was going off the steps i'd made earlier when i determined that i couldn't make it into work.
[14:23] <gamerchick02> so yeah. doing a backup of my computer right now yay
[14:23] <jrwren> better fall in a drift than fall on the steps. OUCH
[14:23] <gamerchick02> yeah! i'm not hurt.
[14:23] <gamerchick02> i changed my pants and i'm dry now
[14:49] <cmaloney> Yeah, we did our shoveling
[14:49] <cmaloney> now to wait until spring
[14:52] <brousch> I need a decent snowblower next year.
[15:25] <gamerchick02> none have snowshovels or boots or anything.
[15:25] <gamerchick02> there are a lot of chrysler IT guys from that area of the world in my apartment complex.
[15:25] <_stink_> phew
[15:25] <_stink_> just finished
[15:26] <_stink_> we had 2.5 foot drifts
[15:26] <_stink_> also, my flights to san fran got cancelled.
[15:26] <cmaloney> gamerchick02: Yeah, I'm sure they're not prepared for this
[15:26] <gamerchick02> aww sorry about that
[15:26] <gamerchick02> no they are not, cmaloney
[15:26] <cmaloney> Granted I never thought to have a shovel in the apartment complex
[15:26] <cmaloney> luckily we had good maint. folks.
[15:27] <gamerchick02> we do too but nobody (and i mean nobody) leaves in this kind of weather.
[15:27] <gamerchick02> so they can't plow if everyone's still in their spaces
[15:27] <cmaloney> Yeah
[15:27] <gamerchick02> plus i have a lot of Oakland students and they don't drive hardly ever either.
[15:28] <cmaloney> gamerchick02: s/drive hardly ever either/try to drive over anything that looks flat and pout when it doesn't work/
[15:28] <gamerchick02> hah
[15:28] <gamerchick02> yes
[15:31] <gamerchick02> good day to fire up musicbrainz and sort the music collection, yeah?
[15:32] <cmaloney> As good as any
[15:33] <gamerchick02> :)
[15:33] <gamerchick02> that's what i'm doing...
[15:33] <gamerchick02> might as well be personally productive.
[16:35] <gamerchick02> car unburied.
[16:35] <gamerchick02> and i have it clean behind my car so i can get out tomorrow. hopefully there will be more plowing later
[17:10] <rick_h_> evening
[17:13] <cmaloney> Afternoon
[17:13] <cmaloney> :)
[17:13] <gamerchick02> g'day
[17:15] <rick_h_> watching the super bowl and eating pizza ftw :)
[17:15] <gamerchick02> nice. i just finished lunch and i'm going to be working on tagging my music
[17:15] <cmaloney> rick_h_: I won't tell you how it ends
[17:15] <cmaloney> suffice to say one team beat another team
[17:16] <cmaloney> apparently they don't do tie games
[17:16] <rick_h_> I already know
[17:16] <rick_h_> I'm just hanging out because there's pizza..if you can call it that...and good wifi :)
[17:16] <gamerchick02> why aren't you catching up on Downton, rick_h_?
[17:16] <gamerchick02> ;)
[17:16] <cmaloney> South African Pizza? boggles the mind
[17:16] <gamerchick02> pizza + wifi = heaven.
[17:16] <rick_h_> yea, pretty much
[17:17] <cmaloney> gamerchick02: Because he already watched the UK broadcast
[17:17] <gamerchick02> aww man. lucky duck
[17:17] <gamerchick02> no PBS cuts in that one
[17:17] <cmaloney> 10% more UK
[17:17] <cmaloney> ;)
[17:17] <gamerchick02> :)
[17:17] <rick_h_> lol
[17:18] <cmaloney> Don't have to have some rich lady tell you how much she likes PBS
[17:18] <gamerchick02> so dang true
[17:18] <cmaloney> bbiab. Lunch.
[17:19] <gamerchick02> enjoy
[17:45] <cmaloney> back
[17:52] <gamerchick02> how was lunch?
[17:53] <rick_h_> it was a party!
[17:53] <gamerchick02> :)
[17:53] <jrwren> rick_h_: you have wine with that pizza and football?
[17:57] <rick_h_> jrwren: bottle of http://www.journeysend.co.za/winery.html I picked up from the wine festival I went to yesterday
[17:57] <rick_h_> over 40 wineries in one field to try for $13
[17:57] <rick_h_> :)
[17:57] <rick_h_> was a good day yesterday
[17:58] <jrwren> did you know ahead of time that it was there, or was this a huge lucky find?
[17:58] <rick_h_> jrwren: Mark S suggested we check it out if we were coming in so I did :)
[17:58] <rick_h_> it seemed like a decent way to spend a day
[18:00] <gamerchick02> http://boingboing.net/2014/08/12/remembering-robin-williams-ci.html it's taken me five months to get to reading this.
[18:27] <cmaloney> rick_h_: South African wine is quite good
[18:28] <cmaloney> on par with Aussie wine which I like
[18:28] <cmaloney> gamerchick02: Yeah, Robin Williams death hit me pretty hard
[18:29] <gamerchick02> hit me REALLY hard. like "pow right in the feels"
[18:29] <cmaloney> Really like the Shiraz but JoDee doesn't care for them
[18:29] <gamerchick02> usually celebrity deaths don't hit me like that but whoa
[18:29] <cmaloney> so we generally get Merlots which we both like
[18:30] <gamerchick02> re wine: i usually drink MI wines...
[18:30] <gamerchick02> (and i prefer white anyway...)
[18:31] <cmaloney> Loves me some reds
[18:31] <cmaloney> though I don't mind the white wines from time to time
[18:32] <gamerchick02> :)
[18:32] <cmaloney> I like some MI wines as well
[18:32] <cmaloney> Tend to like more of the sweeter wines up here
[18:32] <gamerchick02> yeah!
[18:33] <cmaloney> Though the old addage of "they'll ferment most anything" is true of a lot of MI wine
[18:33] <cmaloney> Cherry wine in particular
[18:33] <cmaloney> blech.
[18:33] <gamerchick02> ew
[18:47] <brousch> I love Cherry wine
[18:47] <brousch> Drank a bottle cranberry recently too. Awesome
[18:47] <brousch> So flavorful
[18:48]  * brousch sets another Dutch licorice coin on his tongue
[18:48] <akelling> Strawberry was always my favorite fruit wine.
[18:49] <brousch> Can't say I've tried it. blueberry is very powerful though
[18:50] <akelling> mmm Blueberry
[18:51] <jrwren> barley wine is good
[18:52] <brousch> The nastiest wine I've had is asparagus
[18:52] <akelling> Barley wine will mess you up.
[18:52] <akelling> Cheap wine that you can get in Ohio that is not to bad for fruits. http://www.breitenbachwine.com/
[18:52] <akelling> I never seen it in MI when I lived there.
[18:53] <rick_h_> cmaloney: yea, wine festival was a good thing
[18:53] <brousch> Probably because we have a hundred good wineries already ;)
[18:54] <akelling> I only seen cherry/apple in MI for fruits.
[18:54] <akelling> Yeah MI has some great wineries and brewerys. Wish I could get Founders out here.
[18:55] <brousch> We have some decent blueberry fields on the west side
[18:55] <brousch> My friend in Charleston, SC has Founders. Surely you do too
[18:56] <akelling> I have not seen it out here. I am not sure if they distubute past MO.
[18:59] <akelling> Checked their site no one within 100 miles of my zip has it.
[19:00] <brousch> wow
[19:01] <gamerchick02> you can't order it and have it shipped?
[19:02] <brousch> Shipping alcohol across state borders is not trivial
[19:02] <gamerchick02> ah.
[19:03] <akelling> I will just get some next time I am in STL.
[19:03] <akelling> I have seen Bells a few times but they want 11.99 a 6 pack
[19:04] <gamerchick02> dang!
[19:04] <brousch> Seems reasonable
[19:05] <akelling> Yeah.... I enjoy two hearted but not that much. We have alot of good beers here in Colorado
[19:05] <brousch> trudat
[19:06] <rick_h_> woot! I have working trackpoint buttons!
[19:06] <rick_h_> <3 working for this company, kernel folks to fix me up ftw!
[19:06] <brousch> trackpoint buttons?
[19:06] <akelling> IBM laptop?
[19:06] <rick_h_> yea, on the new laptopst
[19:06] <rick_h_> went back to thinkpad
[19:06] <akelling> Nice!
[19:06] <rick_h_> <3
[19:06] <rick_h_> but it's a bit too new for crap to 'just work' yet
[19:07] <akelling> I like my thinkpad's too. What model do you have?
[19:07] <rick_h_> the 3rd gen x1 carbon
[19:07] <brousch> I never realized that was a button
[19:07] <rick_h_> well the trackpoint is back to having buttons vs 'click on the touchpad'
[19:07] <rick_h_> and the buttons didn't work
[19:08] <akelling> I have heard good things about those carbon's
[19:08] <rick_h_> yea, 2800x1400 px touchless display <3
[19:08] <akelling> damn
[19:08] <jrwren> depends on the bells. expedition stout is $18 for a 6 pack, and worth every penny
[19:08] <brousch> touchless. WHAT YEAR IS THIS?
[19:09] <jrwren> rick_h_: wtf, how did you do that? I need an eMMC fix for my Acer.
[19:09] <akelling> Yeah that expedition stout is so freaking good. Puts the buzz on too.
[19:09] <rick_h_> jrwren: jcastro hooked me up with folks from the server team here
[19:09] <rick_h_> and they took 5min to fix it and then they wanted to check it all out, file a bug, and both are looking at getting one now
[19:09] <jrwren> rick_h_: oh man! so jelly.
[19:10] <rick_h_> <3 I want them to get one because then they'll make it all worky worky
[19:10] <rick_h_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1417209
[19:10] <jrwren> rick_h_: you've convinced me to bring my acer to next sprint.
[19:10] <rick_h_> jrwren: definitely!
[19:20] <cmaloney> akelling: I think that's the going rate
[19:20] <cmaloney> Bells beer went up in price
[19:20] <cmaloney> Porter is 10.49 at Meijer
[19:21] <cmaloney> Though it goes on special from time to time
[19:21] <cmaloney> rick_h_: That's awesome.
[19:22] <akelling> O really cmaloney. Was 8.99 or 9.99 for a 6 pack in July. But if it went up in price then I dont feel as bad about it.
[19:22] <cmaloney> Yeah, it got expensive in the fall
[19:22] <cmaloney> Like "Have to think about this one" expensive
[19:24] <akelling> gotcha
[19:38] <jrwren> funny how that $1 makes a difference, isn't it?
[19:39] <akelling> well its a 3 dollar diffrence to me.
[19:49] <cmaloney> It's a couple of bucks, but yeah
[19:49] <cmaloney> becomes a $10 six pack instead of a 8.99 six pack. :)
[19:52] <jrwren> becomes a shorts or other brewery six pack instead of a bells six pack :p
[20:22] <cmaloney> Yeah
[21:50] <cmaloney> rick_h_: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4061720/trouble-getting-pylint-to-find-inherited-methods-in-pylons-sa-models
[21:50] <cmaloney> Ran into this one online. :)
[21:50]  * cmaloney is listening to Gojira - Oroborus
[22:38]  * cmaloney is listening to Gojira - Vacuity
[22:38] <cmaloney> I swear this song is such a anger releaser
[22:39] <greg-g> most things you listen to are :)


[03:25] <hyperair> hmm didn't the CoC apply everywhere?
[03:25] <hyperair> oh well
[07:18] <mac_v> DanRabbit: pushing some changes to Humanity-UNR folder-public share, if you like it we can push it to Humanity too
[07:18] <DanRabbit> k
[08:34] <DanRabbit> mac_v: looks good, but highlights are a little strong. I was thinking about doing the same thing :)
[08:35] <DanRabbit> I'm off to bed. Goof night.
[08:35] <DanRabbit> Good*
[08:50] <mac_v> hehe ;) , well i reduced your work a bit ;p
[09:00] <mac_v> DanRabbit: you are right about the highlights. edited and pushed to both humanity-UNR and Humanity
[14:19] <mac_v> DanRabbit: \o/ i figured out a way to do the new nm-connecting animations :) pushed to UNR check them out , i'v removed the png files so now all the files are svg ;)
[17:48] <MDC1> hi! do you know a command that checks if the cpu is idling and then run a command?
[17:48] <MDC1> so i can make things like; runwhenidle && make
[18:06] <SiDi> i think you could write a script that would parse the output of top and that would sleep till the cpu charge is above 0.#
[18:06] <SiDi> but it would use CPU too of course :D
[18:06] <mac_v> MDC1:  cron ?
[18:09] <MDC1> of course .. cpu will never go down to 0 but under 10 would be enough :-) but it doesn't exists such a command?
[18:11] <mac_v> oh.. you want to do it at *every* time the cpu drops to low usage 0.o
[18:12] <MDC1> yep :-)
[18:13] <MDC1> or no...
[18:13] <MDC1> just once
[18:13] <MDC1> runwhenidle && make
[18:13] <MDC1> or better waitforidle && make
[18:14] <mac_v> MDC1: hm... we can hack it to do that using conky i guess
[18:15] <MDC1> conky?
[18:15] <mac_v> yup
[18:15] <mac_v> conky can display you cpu usage
[18:15] <mac_v> your*
[18:15] <mac_v>  and from that we can deduce it and make it run
[18:15]  * MDC1 reading up on conky
[18:17] <SiDi> or with top....
[18:17] <SiDi> conky is much heavier than top :P
[18:17] <MDC1> yup.. seems easier ;-)
[18:17] <mac_v> conky is not heavy ;p
[18:18] <SiDi> btw, top returns a value between 0 and 1
[18:18] <SiDi> not 0 and 100
[18:20] <MDC1> that's ok
[18:20] <MDC1> just multiply