[08:27] <goose> Hasanibrahim: you'll need to make the changes from the live CD, but you'll need to do an fsck before you can, one moment, I'll find the command you need
[08:27] <stiggy> Bryce1: just press enter with a blank password
[08:28] <goose> c_nick: look it up in aptitude or repositories
[08:28] <Bryce1> stiggy: i have tried that. no luck
[08:28] <c_nick> This is what i get~$ sudo apt-get install gnome-paint
[08:28] <c_nick> Reading package lists... Done
[08:28] <c_nick> Building dependency tree
[08:28] <c_nick> Reading state information... Done
[08:28] <c_nick> E: Couldn't find package gnome-paint
[08:28] <FloodBot2> c_nick: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:28] <gh0st3r> anyone know how to change applications from one screen to the next screen when you have dual monitors?
[08:28] <stiggy> Bryce1: how about when you connect to the vista machine ?
[08:28] <Bryce1> stiggy: hold on got to set up a public folder on it
[08:28] <icarus-c> toddler: it worked out of the box without manually installing any driver right?
[08:29] <c_nick> no gnome-paint there
[08:29] <toddler> icarus-c: yes, and it works flawlessly on my uni's network
[08:29] <Hasanibrahim> gh0st3r: you can do it with easy
[08:29] <goose> Hasanibrahim: "sudo shutdown -rF now" -r stands for "reboot", "F" stands for "fsck on startup"
[08:29] <bigmack83> in synaptic i can create a markings file for apps i curretnly have installed and save it to a file. how can i install those apps in that file from the console instead on a new system?
[08:29] <Bryce1> stiggy: same deal with vista box
[08:30] <goose> c_nick: do you know how to look it up in synaptic?
[08:30] <Sepho> hi everybody!!
[08:30] <c_nick> yeah i just searched for gnome-paint
[08:30] <goose> !hi | Sepho
[08:30] <icarus-c> toddler: in the lspci -v output, what is the driver in use?
[08:30] <c_nick> under packages
[08:30] <gh0st3r> Hasanibrahim, huh?
[08:30] <psypher246> hi all, does anyone know why there seems to a be a 4GB file size limit when using nautilus to view ftp sites? The file is clearly larger than 4GB but it only shows 4GB, not sure if it only copies 4GB. this does not happen with firefox so not a server side issue
[08:30] <stiggy> Bryce1: how about when you try through the file browser ? if you enter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in the location bar
[08:30] <gh0st3r> Hasanibrahim, i tried to just drag, but didn't work
[08:30] <goose> c_nick: then if it's not in there, it doesn't exist anymore (officially)
[08:30] <toddler> icarus-c: ath5k
[08:30] <c_nick> can i get it unofficially
[08:30] <Hasanibrahim> goose: There are a lot of errors
[08:31] <Bryce1> stiggy: thats what i have been trying
[08:31] <c_nick> or.. is there anything else there
[08:31] <goose> Hasanibrahim: let fsck fix them :>
[08:31] <c_nick> similar to that
[08:31] <boxxy> GAYNIGGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE
[08:31] <boxxy> GAYNIGGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE
[08:31] <FloodBot2> boxxy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:31] <Sepho> I've a problem. I've installed 7.04 ubuntu version, but when I try to update any package, the repos does not exists, what I should to do?
[08:31] <Hasanibrahim> unable to read page, block blah blah
[08:31] <goose> bu-bye
[08:31] <Sepho> I don't want to update all ubuntu
[08:31] <boxxy> GAYNIGGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE
[08:31] <icarus-c> toddler: um...  try sudo modprobe ath9k
[08:31] <goose> !op
[08:31] <boxxy> GAYNIGGGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE
[08:31] <Hasanibrahim> goose: my PC is not doing anything :/
[08:31] <boxxy> GAYNIGGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE
[08:31] <FloodBot2> boxxy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:32] <Hasanibrahim> or maybe i can't see :(
[08:32] <jobo> wew
[08:32] <jobo> exit
[08:32] <toddler> icarus-c: no response
[08:32] <toddler> icarus-c: I just got the prompt back immediately
[08:32] <VanessaE> sigh
[08:32] <VanessaE> why do people feel the need to do that?
[08:32] <icarus-c> toddler: now lspci -v  again
[08:32] <sara1> hi
[08:33] <goose> ack, sorry to mass highlight ops :S
[08:33] <MenZa> goose: that's perfectly ok - that's what it's there for
[08:33] <MenZa> goose: we appreciate it :)
[08:33] <toddler> icarus-c: exactly same output as before
[08:33] <icarus-c> apparently that boxxy run Windows
[08:33] <icarus-c> VanessaE: does that tell anything? :P
[08:34] <sara1> how to install tor on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[08:34] <VanessaE> yeah, tell's me he's an idiot.
[08:34] <VanessaE> :)
[08:34] <Bryce1> stiggy: i cant even see the pc's in my workgroup through gui. i can ping them but cant access them
[08:34] <icarus-c> sara1: sudo apt-get install tor
[08:35] <VanessaE> (tell's?  /me hangs her head in shame)
[08:35] <stiggy> Bryce1: I would try to find an XP machine and test to see if you can connect to that, this maybe the authentication issue that jong_ mentioned, so if it works on xp at least it rules out samba not working correctly
[08:35] <stiggy> Bryce1: other than that, I'm fresh out of ideas again...
[08:35] <Bryce1> stiggy: i can and have connected to xp boxes at my school
[08:35] <icarus-c> toddler: a google on  AR5001 linux performance  give me this http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=60759
[08:36] <Bryce1> stiggy: but thanks for trying. i guess its just what jong_ said a bug with authentication.. going to have to wait for an update i guess
[08:36] <stiggy> Bryce1: then it probably is the know problem with vista / windows 7
 kingropen@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install tor
[08:36] <Bryce1> has anyone here successfully networked 9.10 with windows 7 or ubuntu?
[08:36] <sara1> [sudo] password for kingropen:
[08:36] <sara1> Reading package lists... Done
[08:36] <sara1> Building dependency tree
[08:36] <sara1> Reading state information... Done
[08:36] <FloodBot2> sara1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:36] <sara1> Package tor is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:36] <Bryce1> has anyone here successfully networked 9.10 with windows 7 or vista*
[08:36] <VanessaE> +z ??
[08:38] <astechgeek> Nathan_: how are you connected right now?
[08:38] <Bryce1> stiggy: where would i ask for this to be fixed?
[08:38]  * ZachK_ has arrived
[08:38] <rxd> do i have to buy aspire revo for karmic?
[08:38] <nathan_> astechgeek, i am connected wired
[08:38] <sara1> FloodBot2 i need tor , plz
[08:38] <baker`> who uses 'new wave' theme??
[08:38] <Dolmio> hello
[08:38] <toddler> icarus-c: doesn't really help, though. I have the latest kernel, and the modprobe for ath9k didn't do anything.
[08:38] <toddler> :P
[08:39] <ZachK_> Dolmio: welcome
[08:39] <sara1> how to install tor on ubntu 9.10
[08:39] <Bryce1> stiggy: found it. it has already been assessed as a bug 461907
[08:39] <Dolmio>  im having trouble writing ubuntu 9.10 onto  dvd disk.....any one know why?
[08:39] <Bryce1> sara1: sudo apt-get install tor
[08:40] <stiggy> Bryce1: cool, any notes in the bug for work arounds ?
[08:40] <icarus-c> sara1: search for tor
[08:40] <Bryce1> stiggy: not that i'm seeing in this post.. ill look for some more though. thanks for all your help
[08:40] <icarus-c> sara1: in Add/Remove Application
[08:40] <icarus-c> toddler: no clue
[08:40] <KinkyKamikaze> Excuse me, I installed NetBeans from ubuntu 9.10, how do I add glassfish and tomcat? They didn't follow, I think
[08:41] <astechgeek> did downloading the wl_apsta-3.130 work>
[08:41] <stiggy> Bryce1: no worries, good luck
[08:41] <sara1> Bryce1 Package tor is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[08:41] <toddler> icarus-c: thanks anyway
[08:42] <bigmack83> how can i run 'apt-get remove' for all packages with 'blah' in the name instead of having to type all the package names
[08:42] <kraut> moin
[08:43] <sara1> wen i install tor sudo apt-get install tor , Package tor is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source , help plz
[08:44] <ZachK_> sara1: what program are you searching for. Be specific please
[08:45] <slayersumy> QUESTION: has anyone managed to make a working pppoe connection using "NetworkManager Applet", in 9.10 I had to use pppoeconf in order to connect to the internet... thank you
[08:45] <sara1> ZachK
[08:45] <ZachK_> sara1:
[08:45] <sara1> tor
[08:45] <ZachK_> sara1: is that the full name of the program?
[08:46] <sara1> ZachK_ mmmmm www.torproject.org/
[08:47] <ZachK_> sara1: looking at site
[08:47] <XeroXer> Has the build in FTP support been changed in Karmic? In Jaunty it always worked like a charm, now I get timeouts all the time so I can't save files I have been editing and such.
[08:47] <sara1> ZachK_ i cont download form this site is blocked in my cantry
[08:47] <syn-ack> ZachK_, its not even in the repos anymore
[08:47] <ZachK_> syn-ack: i figured
[08:48] <syn-ack> sara1, There's quite possibly a very good reason for that
[08:48] <astechgeek> Nathan_: try this
[08:48] <astechgeek> sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta-<IP_ADDRESS>.o tar xfvj broadcom-wl-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2 sudo b43-fwcutter --unsupported -w /lib/firmware broadcom-wl-<IP_ADDRESS>/driver/wl_apsta_mimo.o sudo chmod o+rx /lib/firmware/b43 /lib/firmware/b43legacy sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[08:48] <bigmack83> how would i remove all packages with 'foo' in its name from command line?
[08:49] <astechgeek> that came from the ubuntu forums and was said to work for 9.04
[08:49] <sara1>  syn-ack yas
[08:49] <sara1> ZachK_ i cont download form this site is blocked in my cantry
[08:49] <syn-ack> sara1, which country are you from?
[08:49] <ZachK_> sara1: hmmm
[08:49] <syn-ack> ZachK_, export restrictions
[08:49] <syn-ack> bet ya they're French
[08:49] <astechgeek> youll need to download this http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/wl_apsta-<IP_ADDRESS>.o  with sudo wget
[08:50] <sara1> syn-ack Saudi Arabia
[08:50] <ZachK_> syn-ack: i agree....
[08:50] <ZachK_> syn-ack: sara1 ah...that will cause problems
[08:50] <syn-ack> sara1, yep talk to your warlord leaders who don't want you to run it.
[08:50] <syn-ack> thats OT though so I'm sorry
[08:50] <joebodo> access the site using a free US proxy server
[08:51] <ZachK_> sara1: it's probably due to monitoring of the people's use of the internet
[08:51] <astechgeek> once you have that done reset your router and restart your system
[08:51] <sara1> syn-ack :(
[08:51] <sara1> ZachK :(
[08:51] <syn-ack> joebodo, you realise they could go to prison for running that, right?
[08:51] <fonkeymonkey> hi, i would be happy about some help. i want to istall a newer version of gtk and i am not sure about the ./configure prefixes needed for the different packages(GTK, Glib, pango,...)
[08:51] <joebodo> syn-ack, yes
[08:52] <syn-ack> So why even suggest it.
[08:52] <sara1> ZachK  syn-zak so help my
[08:52] <sara1> syn-sak so help my
[08:52] <syn-ack> sara1, We can't. You're not allowed by law to run that app.
[08:52] <ZachK_> !behaviour | sara1
[08:53] <joebodo> syn-ack, im a bit late to the discussion - but i believe he's trying to use tor - so obviously, he is trying to circumvent detection already
[08:53] <xukun> after I make connection with vpnc I loose my internet connection. Anybody know why this is happening?
[08:53] <xiaoniao> no
[08:53] <grturner> hey, whats the easiest way to install 9.10 from beta to release from shell?
[08:53] <syn-ack> Joebodo: I for one am not going to help them do that.
[08:54] <syn-ack> joebodo, It'd probably be in your best interest not to as well
[08:54] <joebodo> syn-ack, then dont
[08:54] <To3000> 9.10 keeps freezing on me for no reason
[08:54] <blinkiz> Hi there. I have a problem. I have installed a LAMP setup with phpmyadmin. Works great. But when I change apache running user, phpmyadmin stops to work. Just changing owner of the phpmyadmin files does not seems to work. Anyone have a clue how to troubleshoot this?
[08:54] <ZachK_> sara1: i'm sorry but me and syn-ack are not able to help you with this
[08:55] <psypher246> hi all, does anyone know why there seems to a be a 4GB file size limit when using nautilus to view ftp sites? The file is clearly larger than 4GB but it only shows 4GB, not sure if it only copies 4GB. this does not happen with firefox so not a server side issue
[08:55] <To3000> i had to down grade
[08:55] <boknoy> hi guys, does apt-mirror get the whole mirror or can I set it to only get a certain selection of packages?
[08:55] <To3000> any ideas
[08:55] <syn-ack> boknoy, both. It depends on what you want
[08:56] <To3000> any one?
[08:56] <sara1> ZachK syn-ack thnx :)
[08:56] <ZachK_> sara1: yes...
[08:56] <ZachK_> !behaviour | To33
[08:56] <indus> !tor
[08:56] <ZachK_> !behaviour | To3000
[08:56] <indus> whats tor really
[08:56] <boknoy> syn-ack, if I have a network of very identical computers and I want everyone to get updates from a local computer.
[08:57] <sirgeon908> hi, can anyone point me to the right direction on this "GRUB loading, please wait... Error2"
[08:57] <To3000> ZachK_: what did i do
[08:57] <jong_> boknoy: try installing apt-cacher on the server computer
[08:58] <rickogden> hi all
[08:58] <syn-ack> I was just gonna suggest that
[08:58] <boknoy> I was thinking of making a script that copies the apt cache some place shareable, and point the sources.list to someplace where they can apt from
[08:58] <ZachK_> To3000: you've asked "Anyone?" multiple times in a few seconds time..try to wait
[08:58] <ZachK_> rickogden: welcome
[08:58] <rickogden> I'm getting a message saying "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted", and then lists my /home partition and /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 on boot, and the boot sequence won't get any further. Does anyone know how I can sort this? This is on an Eee PC 901
[08:58] <syn-ack> boknoy, but yeah, do what jong_ suggested
[08:58] <boknoy> jong_, lousy internets D:
[08:58] <To3000> ZachK_: sorry
[08:59] <syn-ack> boknoy, apt-cacher-ng is an even better choice.
[08:59] <maiga> test
[08:59] <boknoy> syn-ack, is that apt-cacher or apt-catcher? I see some posts that say catcher.
[08:59] <syn-ack> cacher
[08:59] <joaopinto> apt-cacher-ng
[09:00] <jong_> boknoy: pinoy ka ba bro?
[09:00] <ZachK_> To3000: it's ok...just try to wait a little bit...
[09:00] <boknoy> jong_ oo haha
[09:00] <Kerio> hello!
[09:00] <boknoy> syn-ack, ok I'll look at that too
[09:00] <maiga> Yes baby
[09:00] <Kerio> anybody tried 9.10 yet? :)
[09:00] <FireCrotch> sirgeon908: GRUB Error 2 means that the disk that you're trying to boot from is not reconized by the computer - either it's missing, or the entry in GRUB is incorrect
[09:00] <joaopinto> Kerio, most of us are using it
[09:00] <maiga> enfin quelqu'un qui parle francais
[09:00] <Kerio> any big bugs?
[09:00] <syn-ack> alright, time for me to hit the sack. later guys
[09:00] <sebsebseb> !fr |  maiga
[09:00] <DJones> !fr | maiga
[09:01] <syn-ack> Kerio, no.
[09:01] <Kerio> that you encountered yet?
[09:01] <ZachK_> !fr | maiga
[09:01] <maiga> Ok
[09:01] <maiga> merci
[09:01] <sebsebseb> Kerio: To find out about common issues with 9.10 check out the release notes
[09:01] <joebodo> To3000, ask your question again - try and provide all details to your problem. if you dont get an answer try again in a couple of minutes
[09:01] <sebsebseb> !notes |  Kerio
[09:01] <jong_> boknoy: bro try mo nlang follow this instruction https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Apt-Cacher-Server
[09:01] <syn-ack> hi sebsebseb bai sebsebseb. ;)
[09:01] <nathanial> is it possible to install windows xp without a cd or usb via ubuntu, say if i wanted to remove ubuntu and install windows xp over it.
[09:02] <ZachK_> toader:
[09:02] <sebsebseb> Kerio: Also many people have experienced problems after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10.
[09:02] <ZachK_> !Welcome | toader
[09:02] <boknoy> jong_ salamat po :)
[09:02] <sebsebseb> syn-ack: Uhmm?
[09:02] <jong_> boknoy: no probs
[09:02] <toader> Hi, I always encounter the printer problem,  Could anybody hel me? "a Idle - Tree connect failed (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED)"
[09:02] <syn-ack> sebsebseb, you came on too late! I have to go to bed now. I was being polite. :P
[09:02] <syn-ack> anyway, later folks
[09:03] <rickogden> nathanial: you can't just install Windows "over" Linux, as among other things they use completely different file systems
[09:03] <sebsebseb> syn-ack: ok
[09:03] <To3000> when i boot 9.10, after a few min the mouse continues to move but none of the windows respond, the caps key DOSE NOT flash
[09:03] <nathanial> rickogden, right, is it possible to create a usb installer with ubuntu?
[09:03] <sebsebseb> nathanial: You can install Windows inside Ubuntu in a virtual machine, but you will need a  CD/DVD/ISO  for it.
[09:04] <rickogden> nathanial: yes you can, but you need the CD to get the image from to make a bootable USB drive
[09:04] <nathanial> sebsebseb, well my problem is that no matter what i have tried, my wifi wont see networks.
[09:04] <nathanial> rickogden, is there a tutorial or website which can guide me/
[09:04] <nathanial> *?
[09:05] <sebsebseb> nathanial: In Ubuntu you mean?  Yes wireless can be tricky to set up,  you can try native first :)  and then  Ndiswrapper which will allow you to use Windows driver.  Fortunatly I don't have to mess around setting up wireless :)  This also means I don't know that much about setting it up.
[09:05] <Kerio> hmm, everything work so well right now, aint gonna upgrade just yet... :)
[09:05] <rickogden> nathanial: erm, if you use one of the many CD burning software to create an ISO of the CD, and then use USB Startup Disk Creator to create a bootable pen drive with that image
[09:06] <sebsebseb> Kerio: With 9.04?
[09:06] <nathanial> sebsebseb, yeah. I have tried ndis and every other thing mentioned on forums but it just wont work.
[09:06] <Kerio> yes 9.04
[09:06] <sebsebseb> nathanial: You already said what didn't work, but I like this factoid so
[09:06] <sebsebseb> !work |  nathanial
[09:07] <sebsebseb> Kerio: well  not that much difference between 9.04 and 9.10  for  noticable end users features that you see.  Not in the background technical features.
[09:07] <VanessaE> ...except your sound may end up not working right
[09:07] <nathanial> rickogden,  thats interesting, does that mean ubuntu startup disk creator can be used for anything? even windows xp?
[09:07] <colt> #reddit
[09:08] <sebsebseb> Kerio: The notes tell you more about 9.10, but  yes you can keep 9.04 for now.
[09:08] <sebsebseb> !notes |  Kerio
[09:08] <rickogden> nathanial: yes, any CD image
[09:08] <nathanial> thats pretty interesting thanks for that piece of knowledge.
[09:08] <xukun> any body? after I make connection with vpnc I loose my internet connection. Anybody know why this is happening?
[09:08] <Kerio> i will, read the notes
[09:08] <Kerio> im running a counter strike server from home on it, also using some filesharing
[09:08] <To3000> when i boot 9.10, after a few min the mouse continues to move but none of the windows respond, the caps key DOSE NOT flash please help
[09:09] <VanessaE> (my problem is that sound skips with high CPU loads, despite the fact that my machine's got plenty of CPU power)
[09:09] <[zaf]-Coral> Anybody know what I could do to solve this problem :? http://pastebin.com/m12dd4e9f
[09:09] <Kerio> but thats about it, just want it to work. But at the same time you always wanna try the new sh*it :)
[09:09] <godwin> helo
[09:09] <tapas> ok, how to start my xsession from the new gdm?
[09:10] <tapas> it only offers gnome, failsafe terminal and xmonad..
[09:10] <levuong> hi
[09:10] <sebsebseb> Kerio: well there  aren't many new things to try in 9.10
[09:10] <tapas> but not my custom .xsession which starts a gnome session with xmonad as WM
[09:10] <tapas> which sucks..
[09:11] <tapas> basically the _one_ traditionally correct way to configure one's xsession is not supported by the new ubuntu :(
[09:11] <sebsebseb> tapas: and 9.04 it was fine for you?
[09:11] <To3000> the new ubuntu is an epic fail!
[09:11] <tapas> sebsebseb: yep, there all login managers offered to run the user's xinitrc
[09:12] <sebsebseb> tapas: login manager you mean  GDM?
[09:12] <tapas> sebsebseb: yes, or kdm
[09:12] <tapas> which i checked out, too
[09:12] <sebsebseb> tapas: Did you do KDM in 9.10?
[09:12] <tapas> sebsebseb: i installed xdm just to be able to start my session from the login manager..
[09:12] <tapas> sebsebseb: yes...
[09:12] <sebsebseb> tapas: oh there's  xdm as well
[09:12] <tapas> i also installed kdm to see whether it was different..
[09:12] <tapas> no dice
[09:13] <tapas> i think ubuntu has a way of managing the abvailable session which is independent of the login manager
[09:13] <tapas> sebsebseb: that mechanism just doesn't include an option for runing  xinitrc or xsession anymore
[09:13] <sebsebseb> tapas:  To3000   Newer is not always better!  Plus with Ubuntu it's not really about what is the latest or Long Term Support, it's about which releases are still supported by them.
[09:14] <Cantcme> anyone else apart from me getting a problem with compiz + loading a flash video (eg from youtube) ?
[09:14] <sebsebseb> tapas: Well I don't like the new GDM 2 since it can't be themed like the old one
[09:14] <sebsebseb> tapas: Does xdm look good or?
[09:14] <nathanial> ideally id like to get my wifi working in ubuntu as i prefer the ubuntu feel better
[09:14] <tapas> sebsebseb: xdm looks like shit
[09:14] <To3000> i like the new blue tooth but the whole system just craches
[09:14] <tapas> i'll verify that it works with 9.04.. one moment..
[09:14] <sebsebseb> tapas: yeah I had a feeling whatever that one is, that it woudn't look that good
[09:14] <sebsebseb> !info xdm
[09:14] <tapas> it does with 8.04 which we have at uni
[09:14] <tapas> sebsebseb: it's the old x11 login manager
[09:14] <sebsebseb> tapas: X   yeah I was thinking Xubuntu or  X
[09:14] <tapas> used back in the kernel 1.x days already
[09:15] <tapas> ;)
[09:15] <sebsebseb> oh
[09:15] <phate> is it normal that i only have 2 h max. when i´m working in battery mode with the lenovo sl500 and U.9.10?
[09:16] <VanessaE> someone call the press
[09:16] <tapas> sebsebseb: ah hell, it doesn't really matter if 9.04 had this defect already, too
[09:16] <tapas> it's there ;)
[09:16] <VanessaE> I think this kernel build is finally *done*
[09:16] <sebsebseb> tapas: Which defect?
[09:16] <toddler> phate: what did you have with the original OS?
[09:16] <tapas> so i'll look into hacking an extra session into the ubuntu session system
[09:16] <tapas> sebsebseb: not offering to run the .xinitrc
[09:16] <tapas> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/398300
[09:16] <sebsebseb> tapas: there are some other log in screen's out there, that can be installed from outside the repo
[09:16] <tapas> somebody already fileda bug report
[09:17] <phate> toddler: under xp  i had about 3-3.5h
[09:17] <sebsebseb> tapas: by the way  I am not actsaulley sure  what  xinitrc or xsession is
[09:18] <tapas> sebsebseb: well, when you login from the console
[09:18] <tapas> and type startx
[09:18] <tapas> or startx -- :1
[09:18] <tapas> if you already have an X running
[09:18] <tapas> then the file ~/.xinitrc is a script that's run when the x server is up
[09:18] <tapas> this way a user sets up his environment
[09:19] <tapas> e.g. window manager, other apps to be started at login
[09:19] <tapas> xdm doesn't execute .xinitrc, but .xsession
[09:19] <tapas> which is just a softlink in my case..
[09:19] <sebsebseb> softlink??? meaning
[09:19] <toddler> phate: I don't know anything about power saving, but it does seem like you've lost a bit much to me
[09:19] <tapas> sebsebseb: ever heard of the program ln?
[09:19] <sebsebseb> nope
[09:19] <tapas> and links in unix file systems
[09:19] <tapas> ?
[09:19] <tapas> oh well :)
[09:19] <tapas> read up then ;D
[09:19] <FloodBot2> tapas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:20] <tapas> those are essential
[09:20] <toddler> tapas: you mean symbolic link?
[09:20] <sebsebseb> tapas: links probably have heard of this actsauly
[09:20] <tapas> toddler: yeah..
[09:20] <sebsebseb> symbolic link,  that's  the one
[09:20] <tapas> sometimes called "soft link"
[09:20] <tapas> because of the other option "hard link"
[09:20] <phate> toddler: i think the battery is defect. I have an old about 5 yrs laptop and i used that laptop very often. there i have over 3h
[09:20] <cybersplice> toddler: ln doesn't nececarily create a symlink
[09:20] <annelies> hello eveyone. I have a ralink usb wifi adaptor on my pc, but since I upgraded from 8.04 to 9.10 (with all intermediate versions in between), the kernel module doesn't load automatically anymore on startup
[09:21] <annelies> I have to issue modprobe ra2500usb to get the network running
[09:21] <toddler> cybersplice: I know, but tapas was talking about a "soft link"
[09:21] <tapas> sebsebseb: anyways, i'll look into providing a .desktop file in /usr/share/Xsessions
[09:21] <annelies> any idea how I can solve this?
[09:21] <toddler> :)
[09:21] <VanessaE> annelas: sudo nano /etc/modules
[09:21] <VanessaE> add ra2500usb to that file
[09:21] <VanessaE> savbe, reboot.
[09:21] <VanessaE> er, save
[09:22] <annelies> VanessaE, thanks
[09:22] <annelies> will try that
[09:22] <sebsebseb> tapas: well thanks for trying to explain stuff,  even though I didn't seem to quite get it.   ,but something to do with having  two x servers running at the same time or something
[09:22] <tapas> sebsebseb: no..
[09:22] <tapas> sebsebseb: basically, when you log into an X11 system
[09:22] <VanessaE> (for some reason, the newer modules.d and modules.autoload.d stuff isn't there anymore)
[09:22] <tapas> sebsebseb: something has to determine what programs to run.. [window manager, desktop, etc..]
[09:22] <sebsebseb> tapas: yep x does that
[09:22] <tapas> sebsebseb: traditionally that was a shell script in your home directory..
[09:23] <tapas> sebsebseb: now it's been moved to /usr/share/Xsessions/
[09:23]  * annelies is rebooting now
[09:23] <tapas> sebsebseb: or that's at least where GDM is looking..
[09:23] <sebsebseb> tapas: ah ha, yes  I will have seen it in the home folder
[09:23] <sebsebseb> I think I remember seeing the file there now, as a hidden file
[09:23] <tapas> sebsebseb: anyways, i think i'll find a workaround..
[09:23] <tapas> thanks, channel
[09:23] <tapas> and FU FloodBot2
[09:23] <tapas> ;)
[09:23] <FloodBot2> tapas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:24] <tapas> qed
[09:24] <sebsebseb> tapas: well I will have seen it,  since  I have been through  the hidden files in home.
[09:24] <sebsebseb> tapas: before you go, why do you want to edit that file?
[09:25] <tapas> sebsebseb: well, i have already edited it ;)
[09:25] <tapas> sebsebseb: i run gnome with xmonad as my window manager
[09:25] <tapas> or at least i try to ;)
[09:25] <tapas> http://xmonad.org/
[09:25] <sebsebseb> tapas: ah ha so you need to make sure the file knows, it's meant to run  Gnome, but also  xmonad ?
[09:25] <Vinceman> why can you make ü's anymore with shift-windows-"-u anymore in 9.10? how can I reset it back?
[09:25] <tapas> sebsebseb: yes and to achieve that, one does a simple two step program to run the gnome session
[09:26] <tapas> sebsebseb: 1] export WINDOW_MANAGER=xmonad
[09:26] <tapas> 2] exec gnome-session
[09:26] <sebsebseb> tapas: you mean you put that in the file that was mentioned?
[09:26] <tapas> sebsebseb: yes, ~/.xsession which is a soft link to ~/.xinitrc in my case
[09:27] <tapas> ok, gulped my coffee down
[09:27] <tapas> neeed to run to work
[09:27] <tapas> laters
[09:27] <sebsebseb> tapas: ok thanks and bye
[09:27] <tapas> anf FU FloodBot2
[09:27] <haris> καλημέρα!
[09:27] <Hasanibrahim> what's the default username / pass
[09:27] <sebsebseb> tapas: nots ure why your thanking the floodbots though
[09:28] <Hasanibrahim> for ubuntu
[09:28] <Vinceman>  /join #gimp
[09:28] <Hasanibrahim> in live CD , what's username/pass
[09:28] <Hasanibrahim> anybody know it ?
[09:28] <tapas> sebsebseb: FU does not mean "thank you"
[09:28] <sebsebseb> Hasanibrahim: On the Live CD uhmmm  not sure, but there isn't really one as such also
[09:28] <Hasanibrahim> sebsebseb: there is :(
[09:28] <tapas> writing a bot that fights flooding by flooding the channel some more is one of the more retarded things  i have seen in life
[09:30] <Nachturnal> tapas, it doesn't flood the channel if users abide by the rules and do as it says. if they don't, i assume a ban might be in order.
[09:30] <sebsebseb> tapas: oh you were sarcasticly thanking it before?
[09:30] <tapas> Nachturnal: please do, if you are so inclined..
[09:30] <haris> γνωρίζει κάποιος πώς μπορώ να εγκαταστήσω γραμματοσειρές windows στο ubuntu;
[09:30] <DJones> !gr | haris
[09:31] <haris> ευχαριστώ!
[09:31] <sebsebseb> tapas: as far as I know he is not an o p so can't
[09:31] <Hasanibrahim> i lost my HDD last
[09:31] <Hasanibrahim> :(
[09:32] <Nachturnal> tapas, I'm just an infrequent visitor. so if you're referring to the possibility of a ban, that's not my decision.
[09:32] <greezmunkey> man I have'nt done this in a while!
[09:32] <johe|work> good morning, is there a way to test an dhcp server for if he runs correctly, whitout an pc? so maybe a litte programm which shows the offer ?
[09:32] <greezmunkey> tcpdump can do that
[09:33] <x__> #linuxac
[09:34] <sebsebseb> tapas: ah ha you thanked the channel not the bot
[09:35] <c0ld> Is there a linux version of Microsoft Visual c++ 6 ?
[09:35] <greezmunkey> Are overruns common on a wireless interface?
[09:36] <oliver3> c0ld, what are you looking for, a C++ compiler or a C++ IDE?
[09:36] <c0ld> I want a compiler but I want GUI version for linux
[09:37] <nathanial> i want to be able to use my wifi XD
[09:37] <oliver3> There are no GUI compilers that I know of... for /any/ language. But if you want a combination of compiler and IDE, which Visual Studio is, then I'd recommend g++ for your compiler and either KDevelop or Code::Blocks for your IDE.
[09:37] <oliver3> @ c0ld
[09:37] <toddler> nathanial: what is your problem?
[09:38] <erUSUL> !info anjuta
[09:38] <Appiah> c0ld: gui for what compiler?
[09:38] <oliver3> Ah I'd forgotten Anjuta even existed, I was never a fan.
[09:38] <c0ld> c++
[09:38] <nathanial> toddler, i can see my wifi in network manager but IT cannot see any networks around me. and there are plenty around me.
[09:38] <Appiah> just get a IDE like anjuta or Codeblocks then
[09:38] <nathanial> c0ld, have a look at this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577
[09:39] <c0ld> ha
[09:39] <toddler> nathanial: maybe a dumb question, but is your card activated?
[09:39] <c0ld> yah I was just reading it
[09:39] <oliver3> c0ld, may I PM you?
[09:39] <c0ld> yep
[09:39] <Appiah> and Mono
[09:39] <nathanial> toddler, you mean restricted? then yes.
[09:39] <monu> hi have a problemo with grub2 i added windows 7 to the menu list and it gives me bootmgr missing error
[09:39] <monu> help me
[09:40] <monu> help
[09:40] <toddler> nathanial: erm... not sure if we mean the same thing. Is the wifi network card activated/powered up?
[09:41] <nathanial> toddler, i think it is, how can i be sure? The wifi light seems to be on permenantly and the wifi button doesnt make a difference in ubuntu or to the light.
[09:41] <nathanial> ...
[09:43] <greezmunkey> nathanial, try iwconfig in a term
[09:43] <toddler> nathanial: okay... not sure how to check from xterm...
[09:44] <toddler> nathanial: I've had the same problem a couple of years back, though. for me it was a matter of figuring out how to start the wifi card
[09:44] <haris> there is anyone that know a good image resizer???
[09:44] <toddler> nathanial: I don't know if that would solve your problem
[09:45] <Nachturnal> haris, other than GIMP?
[09:45] <greezmunkey> nathanial, what are you trying to figure out?
[09:46] <erUSUL> haris: you have to do a lot of files ?
[09:46] <haris> Nachturnal, I'm new in Ubuntu
[09:47] <haris> but I will test this
[09:48] <XeroXer> Does anyone have a solution for buggy integrated FTP support in Karmic? :)
[09:48] <Nachturnal> haris, if you just want to resize individual images, GIMP will do the trick, and much much more if you wish. if you want to resize groups of images, i'm guessing there's a batch resizer available somewhere.
[09:48] <greezmunkey> nathanial, open a terminal and enter iwconfig, its a good start...
[09:48] <Oyoz> hi
[09:49] <Oyoz> i cannot enter root even when i enter the correct password
[09:49] <Oyoz> what should i do??
[09:50] <greezmunkey> Oyoz, does sudo work?
[09:50] <Oyoz> yes,but su
[09:50] <opossum_oisif> hi, I would install openclipart but it suggest to install a lot of dependance like openoffice-base I expect it is already installed because I use openoffice so how do I do to avoid install of all these deps?
[09:50] <greezmunkey> Oyoz, try sudo -i
[09:50] <soio> Oyoz, the right command is sudo -s
[09:51] <Oyoz> wow,thanx
[09:51] <Oyoz> lol
[09:51] <Oyoz> it worked
[09:51] <Oyoz> am so happy
[09:52] <zvacet> opossum_oisif:  you can not avoid to install deps
[09:52] <greezmunkey> soio, nice!
[09:52] <opossum_oisif> zvacet, ok
[09:52] <obiwan_> hey guys, somebody know how to make a gpt drive? gpt standard is suposed to redundancy copy the gpt at the end of the disk, but fdisk -l just shows gpt is at first sectors, all the rest is used by the last partition
[09:52] <zvacet> opossum_oisif:  np
[09:52] <Oyoz> but sudo gives limited priverledges
[09:53] <darpax> Oyoz: no it doesnt - if configured correctly it provides full root access
[09:53] <Oyoz> I want 100% control of the system
[09:53] <ismail> how to install Kile 2.0 version
[09:53] <darpax> Oyoz: if you are sudo'ing from the user you set up the installation with then you will have 100%
[09:54] <darpax> Oyoz: personally, I use sudo -i as this simulates an initial login by root so .profile and other pieces are all read in
[09:54] <sahith> can any one direct me to a iphone room
[09:55] <erUSUL> obiwan_: afaik onlt parted/gparted knows and can create gpt drives
[09:55] <iceroot> sahith: #apple  #freenode
[09:55] <obiwan_> erUSUL: yeah i did it with gparted
[09:56] <erUSUL> Oyoz: sudo gives full privileges.
[09:56] <erUSUL> !sudo | Oyoz
[09:56] <obiwan_> erUSUL: but anyway, that doesn't show gpt either in the partition list
[09:56] <greezmunkey> darpax, thanks, I thought so...
[09:56] <Oyoz> ok,thanx
[09:56] <tapas> sebsebseb: yes
[09:56] <erUSUL> obiwan_: gpt is a format of the partition table what did you expect to see in the parition list ?
[09:57] <greezmunkey> Oyoz, man pam
[09:57] <obiwan_> erUSUL: gpt is suposed to save a redundancy gpt at the end, so if anytime the mbr gets erased, u have a copy in the end of the disk, but gparted doesn't show anything in the end
[09:57] <BleSS> hi! does anybody has created a boot disk with GPT partition?
[09:58] <erUSUL> obiwan_: and dos it show anything at the start ?
[09:58] <BleSS> hi! does anybody has created a boot disk with GPT partition?
[09:58] <obiwan_> erUSUL: yeah, a gpt partition i did
[09:58] <erUSUL> BleSS: i guess that you need an EFI enabled machine fotr that to work ?
[09:59] <greezmunkey> later
[09:59] <BleSS> erUSUL: yes, then that's the problem
[09:59] <erUSUL> obiwan_: but not the actual gpt artition table. is so tiny there is no point in showing it visually the same goes for the backup
[09:59] <Mass_Driver> hi
[10:00] <Mass_Driver> I have a little problem. I'm running karmic on my netbook and it recognizes my intel atom cpu as 2 cpus...
[10:00] <VanessaE> Ok, I have to say it:   Karmic should not have been released.
[10:00] <obiwan_> erUSUL: ok, so then it is?
[10:00] <obiwan_> erUSUL: is it there?
[10:00] <obiwan_> erUSUL: look, i tried to make the following
[10:00] <To3000> when i boot 9.10, after a few min the mouse continues to move but none of the windows respond, the caps key DOSE NOT flash
[10:00] <MaT-dg1> howto let firefox open irc links with xchat? Pointing to usr/bin/xchat starts xchat but doesn't join the channel.
[10:00] <erUSUL> obiwan_: should be
[10:00] <obiwan_> erUSUL: dump the mbr of the disk and the final 512 bytes
[10:01] <obiwan_> erUSUL: and then compare them bit per bit
[10:01] <obiwan_> erUSUL: the problem is
[10:01] <obiwan_> erUSUL: that the gpt copy is copied from end to start, i mean , the starting of the gpt is at the end
[10:02] <Mass_Driver> ok -.- damnit. Why does karmic tell my i have two cpus?? thers just one...
[10:02] <erUSUL> obiwan_: does gpt use the first 512 bytes like the old format did ?
[10:02] <zvacet> VanessaE:  having problems with karmic?
[10:02] <erUSUL> Mass_Driver: maybe it has HT ?
[10:02] <VanessaE> yup
[10:02] <obiwan_> so i can't compare, because the first bit in mbr is the last in the end of the disk, not the first, i'd need something to change the order of the bits in a file, but don't know how, i tried to make a C program reading in binary mode, but didn't success
[10:02] <Mass_Driver> @erSUL hyperthreading??
[10:02] <VanessaE> sound issues
[10:03] <obiwan_> erUSUL: yeah, it does
[10:03] <zvacet> say it ,maybe somebody can help you
[10:03] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: Did you try an earlier version?
[10:03] <MaT-dg1> VanessaE: is it about the cracks you hear through the speakers?
[10:03] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: Where there will probably also be sound issues, since Ubuntu has had them since like 8.04.
[10:03] <VanessaE> stutters under even brief CPU spikes, sometimes sound freezes entirely while the CPU hog in question is running
[10:03] <VanessaE> The machine in question worked fine under Jaunty.
[10:04] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: Did you do a clean install of  Karmic or an upgrade?
[10:04] <VanessaE> yes, it was clean install.
[10:04] <obiwan_> sry erUSUL i was wrong, it's 16.384 bytes , but anyway
[10:04] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: oh right
[10:04] <VanessaE> er, --a clean install.
[10:04] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: Well you could put 9.04 back on, it's still ok to run 9.04
[10:04] <erUSUL> Mass_Driver: yes
[10:04] <obiwan_> erUSUL: it's 34 sectors of 512 bytes, thus 16.384
[10:04] <darpax> Mass_Driver: Hyperthreading is a technology where one processor had two threads (not full threads) but this was seen by the Operating system as two processors
[10:05] <Mass_Driver> so, HT lets the system think I have 2 cpus? Isn't that counter productive, since its just one...
[10:05] <MaT-dg1> #firefox
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:05] <Kasbe> can I ask a quick question?: If I make a partition and install Debian in it, will the new Grub still let me boot into Ubuntu and Vista?
[10:05] <b3cc0> ciao a tutti
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> Kasbe: sure as longas you configure grub right
[10:05] <Mass_Driver> And since that thing scales... I don't think it's best to run the HT as 1 GHz and the CPU as 1.67 GHz...
[10:05] <erUSUL> Mass_Driver: the cpu has support for doing less say 1.5 of the work.
[10:06] <b3cc0> a chi posso rivolgere un paio di domande su ubutntu9.10?
[10:06] <darpax> Mass_Driver: not at all the system for certain tasks will run faster
[10:06] <Mass_Driver> ahhhhhwwww... i dont really get it..
[10:06] <erUSUL> Mass_Driver: is an Atom ?
[10:06] <Mass_Driver> is an atom.
[10:06] <zvacet> !it | b3cc0
[10:06] <erUSUL> Mass_Driver: the cpu has extra registers and intructions so althought not a full smp system you can gain speed if you make the os believe it has 2 cpu
[10:07] <VanessaE> MaT-dg1, no, it's occasional "pops" in the sound, while playing music.
[10:07] <erUSUL> Mass_Driver: there is a lot of info in the web about HT and SMT. Go read it ;)
[10:07] <Kasbe> ActionParsnip: Do I have to tweak anything? Mind me explaining me the process or give me some directions on what/where to search?
[10:07] <Mass_Driver> yeah, that point i understand, but i dont get it, why the op tries to scale the ht too.
[10:07] <VanessaE> My best guess after much googling is that it's a kernel bug in the CPU frequency scaler routines.
[10:07] <Mass_Driver> I mean, I can't run the CPU at 1ghz and the HT as 1.67
[10:07] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: To find out about common 9.10 issues check out the release notes
[10:07] <SetiAmon> hey i don't really know were this would be a appropiate place to ask this question but how closely is ubuntu to debian?
[10:07] <VanessaE> So now I'm backing the kernel down to 2.6.28-5, something I know for sure worked under Jaunty
[10:07] <sebsebseb> !notes |  VanessaE
[10:08] <VanessaE> Don't quote that stuff to me, please
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> Kasbe: grub2 is a very complex thing but with time i'm sure you'll learn it. I single boot so have no intention of learning its ins and outs
[10:08] <VanessaE> I've been all over the forums and the web in general
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | Kasbe
[10:08] <mr_danne123> Hello! Can anyone help me? I cant get internet connection to start and working under ubunt 9.10 . I am useing a wifi connection in school trying to connect to school network. Strange thing that everything works under Windows Vista
[10:08] <erUSUL> Mass_Driver: ? there is only one cpu so you can only scale one cpu. even some cpus with 2 cores can only scale both or none
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> Kasbe: the final grub.cfg is generated from scripts and settings files
[10:08] <zvacet> Kasbe:  if debian is last os you want to install see on debian site how to do it
[10:08] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: Ok well was just trying to help a little bit.
[10:08] <VanessaE> I appreciate it, honestly
[10:09] <Kasbe> ActionParsnip: Thanks :)
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> Kasbe: so once you learn how to add entrys they will get updated each time update-grub is executed as root
[10:09] <Kasbe> zvacet: thanks
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> Kasbe: for me its really OTT due to single booting
[10:09] <VanessaE> My fault: I should have mentioned, I'm a seasoned Linux user with some 10 years' experience.
[10:09] <mr_danne123> Can anyone help me =D
[10:09] <VanessaE> yet this is just outside of my limited skills.
[10:09] <MaT-dg1> VanessaE: but only when you play music? No 'pop' when an application starts to make a sound?
[10:09] <Mass_Driver> erUSUL: the problem is, the op tries to scale both, what happens if it does that? I mean, you cant scale the HT up and then expect it to run faster, am i right?
[10:09] <zvacet> Kasbe:  just think it is right thing to do np
[10:09] <Mass_Driver> if you dont scale the cpu up
[10:09] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: Well in that case I assume you already know that  newer is not always better, and things that worked in a previous release,  may not just work in a later one.
[10:10] <erUSUL> Mass_Driver: you are not making any sense. care to rephrase ? there is not 2 things to scale there is a single cpu
[10:10] <Oyoz> what is virture box for??
[10:10] <VanessaE> MaT-dg1, that is correct - it's like someone's sitting there tapping the "skip forward" button on the music every once in a while
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Oyoz: i think you mean Virtual Box
[10:10] <erUSUL> !virtualizers | Oyoz
[10:10] <zvacet> !vbox | Oyoz
[10:10] <nathan_> would the command "sudo apt-get install wine" be ok to install wine?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Oyoz: its a virtualisation software much like VM Ware
[10:10] <Mass_Driver> gimme a second. ill switch to xchat and well have a private conversation, i dont want to spanm the channel.
[10:10] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: Anyway that seems to explain why you woudn't just take my put 9.04 back on suggestion, because you want to configure the sound in 9.10 and get it working, or so it seems.   Well  really you wanted it to just work, but now you want to get it working or so it seems.
[10:10] <SetiAmon> aside from my sound being broken(staticy and distorted) in karmic i haven't had any other problems
[10:11] <zvacet> nathan_ : yes
[10:11] <nathan_> zvacet, thanks.
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Oyoz: you can run a guest OS inside your Ubuntu system (which acts as the host), you can run Windows or Linux or BSD or any OS you care to name
[10:11] <zvacet> nathan_:np
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> Oyoz: provided virtualbox likes it.
[10:12] <VanessaE> sebsebseb, er, what I'm saying is that jaunty is already too old, outdated.  Hence I switched to Karmic, and am having problems.
[10:12] <VanessaE> A new release should not make it out the door until stuff like this is ironed out first.
[10:12] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: well  Fedora is more cutting edge than Ubuntu for example
[10:12] <SetiAmon> Sebsebseb:same issue,sound sucks,don't want to reinstall jaunty,want to get it working
[10:13] <VanessaE> remember the Ubuntu mantra, seb.
[10:13] <robilive> hi
[10:13] <VanessaE> "It should just work"
[10:13] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: They don't have enough developers to fix loads and loads of the issues, plus some of them are going to be rather complex to fix.
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> VanessaE: emphasis on should
[10:13] <zvacet> VanessaE:  I had good sound in intrepid,bad in jaunty and it is O.K. in karmic what do you say
[10:13] <cankoy> wireless is broken after upgrade to Karmic, kernel log says "wlan0: disassociating by local choice (reason=3)". Any idea how to fix?
[10:13] <mr_danne123> Hello! Can anyone help me? I cant get internet connection to start and working under ubunt 9.10 . I am useing a wifi connection in school trying to connect to school network. Strange thing that everything works under Windows Vista
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> VanessaE: lots of stuff should work, even in different OSs but doesnt
[10:14] <sebsebseb> cankoy: Ok many people have had issues  with 9.10 after upgrading from 9.04.
[10:14] <SetiAmon> Considering i had perfect sound with jaunty,i do expect sound to work in karmic
[10:14] <TonyTheTiger> reading you guys chat makes me scared to try other linux distro's
[10:14] <VanessaE> zva: ok in Jaunty, useless in Karmic
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> VanessaE: jaunty still has 12 months support left in it
[10:14] <sebsebseb> TonyTheTiger: sometimes other distros  are much better than Ubuntu when it comes  to things such as sound and wireless
[10:15] <Oyoz> is it good??
[10:15] <erUSUL> TonyTheTiger: it is a support chatroom. only people with problems come here. it shos a *very* biased view
[10:15] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: it's to old for her likeing now though
[10:15] <VanessaE> ActionParsnip, not according to most anyone you talk to about software bugs.  "Please try the latest X" for any software package X.  That usually means I need the latest distro version also.
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Oyoz: thats an opinion so is not concrete, why not try it (its free to try) and see for yourself
[10:15] <Oyoz> have u installed it before and you like it?
[10:15] <mr_danne123> Hello! Can anyone help me? I cant get internet connection to start and working under ubunt 9.10 . I am useing a wifi connection in school trying to connect to school network. Strange thing that everything works under Windows Vista
[10:15] <skysong> TonyTheTiger: you shouldn't be scared.. but why would you need another distro if ubuntu suits you?
[10:15] <darpax> TonyTheTiger: I've joined to see whats going on, however I installed Karmic and haven't had any problems
[10:15] <TonyTheTiger> sebsebseb, yeah i guess so, i have seen some nice looking distro's but ubuntu feels right the most atm.
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> VanessaE: not necessarily, the updates will still flow for jaunty until next year so you will have the latest packages
[10:16] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: security updates only from the Ubuntu repos
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> Oyoz: its ok for testing distros, doesnt mean you will like it though
[10:16] <robilive> Anyone know if exist official (or not official) statistics of the 9.10's download in the first week?
[10:16] <zvacet> VanessaE: I know what are you saying but I just want to say I have different experience with sound in ubuntu
[10:16] <TonyTheTiger> although when i become more knowledged and understand linux better i will try other distro's
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> Oyoz: give it a go, form your own opinion
[10:17] <mr_danne123> Hello! Can anyone help me? I cant get internet connection to start and working under ubunt 9.10 . I am useing a wifi connection in school trying to connect to school network. Strange thing that everything works under Windows Vista
[10:17] <Oyoz> ok
[10:17] <zvacet> Oyoz:  try it maybe you will like it  you never know
[10:17] <mr_danne123> I think ubuntu disabled something it is quit easy
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> mr_danne123: it works under vista due to the hardware being super supported in that OS. The fact that it works in vista is moot
[10:17] <Oyoz> thanx
[10:17] <skysong> TonyTheTiger: you don't need another distro, so long as you can get everything done with ubuntu
[10:17] <darpax> mr_danne123: instead of spamming the channel - provide details of what you have tried so far and what errrors you are getting
[10:18] <SetiAmon> mr_Danne123:I am on wifi,in karmic.did you try LEFT clicking on the wifi icon on the top right and seeing if it see's a network
[10:18] <whammo> hi does anybody have a rough guess what is wrong with jockey and how to make it work again?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> mr_danne123: if you run: sudo iwlist scan    do you see access points?
[10:18] <mr_danne123> I am a n00b
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> whammo: try reinstalling it I guess
[10:18] <Paullo_> GeForce Fx 5600 XT 128mb doesn´t have support on ubuntu?
[10:18] <whammo> ha good answer why not
[10:18] <pmo> mr_danne123: a lot of ppl have problems with wifi , most proably is de to propertiary drivers just type in google ur wifi card name + ubuntu 9.10 and u will find solution quick
[10:18] <mr_danne123> sudo iwlist scan gives: interface doesnt support scanning
[10:18] <skysong> Paullo_: you tried installing the drivers?
[10:19] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: unfortunatly  OS's don't always just work properly for  everything they are meant to do,  because of lack of hardware manufacture support for example when it comes to Desktop Linux.
[10:19] <cankoy> mr_danne123: dmesg|grep wlan0
[10:19] <Oyoz> i installed it ones,but it disturbed the start up process
[10:19] <Paullo_> skysong yes many time after i install and rebot the screen comes back and i cant see nothing
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Paullo_: sur eit does. sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173 nvidia-173-modaliases
[10:19] <mr_danne123> dmesg | grep wlan0 : gives nothing
[10:19] <VanessaE> sebsebseb, fair enough, but this worked in Jaunty.  which means there is a feature regression somewhere that should have been ironed out before release.
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Oyoz: well the VBox kernel module needs loading
[10:19] <skysong> Paullo_: check nvidia.com for the drivers, exit x and tried installing it manually.. i guess you used synaptic?
[10:19] <Tesssa> VanessaE i had problems in installing 9.10 had to upgrade from 9.04 eventually now everything works in 9.10 but i dont know why they or i bothered it boots up slower than 9.04 and is no better than9.04 they should have waited and released 10.04 next year
[10:19] <Paullo_> ActionParsnip have more one drive of 173?
[10:20] <Paullo_> skysong i try too
[10:20] <TonyTheTiger> anyone know a good C ide and compiler?
[10:20] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: as long as your using supported hardware by  Ubuntu,  you shoudn't get issues with it when it comes to Ubuntu and the hardware, there's even a bot factoid for this, want it?
[10:20] <Paullo_> but hap the same thing
[10:20] <Tesssa> but i am using 9.10 now
[10:20]  * VanessaE grumbles
[10:20] <BleSS> is possible to boot a GPT disk on a BIOS computer?
[10:20] <cankoy> mr_danne123: do you see a wlan interface with 'ifconfig -a'
[10:20] <skysong> but 9.10 provides for 180 or 185 drivers:s
[10:20] <VanessaE> I repeat:  It worked in Jaunty.
[10:20] <Beryllium> Was there some regression with nvidia drivers between 9.04 and 9.10?
[10:20] <kuttans> Hello
[10:20] <iceroot> TonyTheTiger: compiler = gcc, ide = kdevelop, vi, gedit
[10:20] <indus> ActionParsnip: the nvidia 5200 is legacy driver i think
[10:20] <Tesssa> and have had several updates for 9.10
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Paullo_: how do you mean, the 173 driver supports your card
[10:20] <mr_danne123> ifconfig -a gives : eth0, irda0, lo
[10:21] <kuttans> i have a problem with mousepen tablet in karmic anyone there who know about this
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> indus: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/nvidia-glx-173   search for 5600XT
[10:21] <Paullo_> ActionParsnip and why after i install 173 the screens comes black?
[10:21] <darpax> mr_danne123: when you go to network manager, do you see any wireless networks listed?
[10:21] <indus> ActionParsnip: yes searching now
[10:21] <SetiAmon> karmic was supposed to have xfi working out of the box,it does but there is static and distortions with me,and i can't install the creative drivers like in jaunty so i'm out of ideas
[10:21] <TonyTheTiger> iceroot, so i gotta do it separately no package that does both?
[10:21] <mr_danne123> no
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Paullo_: are you using karmic?
[10:21] <sebsebseb> Tesssa: VanessaE well  new versions in April and October (except for when  the first LTS was delayed to June in 2006)   the non LTS versions are for experimenting with new features and such,  the Long Term Support versions are the ones they need to make rather stable.
[10:21] <iceroot> TonyTheTiger: maybe there are metapackages
[10:21] <cankoy> mr_danne123: it seems ubuntu did not recognize your wireless card
[10:21] <Paullo_> ActionParsnip 9.10
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Paullo_: did you install the modaliasses
[10:21] <darpax> mr_danne123: sounds like your card may not be supported with the default installation and require further tweaking
[10:21] <mr_danne123> hmm
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Paullo_: ok thats karmic
[10:22] <indus> ActionParsnip: yeah supported
[10:22] <kuttans> what is the irc channel for karmic can anyone point out pls
[10:22] <iceroot> TonyTheTiger: but gcc is a must have, so just choose a ide you like
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> indus: jeeves knows much :D
[10:22] <DJones> kuttans: Its this channel now its been released
[10:22] <sebsebseb> kuttans: this is it
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> kuttans: right here
[10:22] <darpax> mr_danne123: as was suggested, have you checked for ubuntu/linux support for your card?
[10:22] <mr_danne123> how can I see the name of the wireless card?
[10:22] <iceroot> TonyTheTiger: have a look at google if there is code::blocks fpr linux
[10:22] <Paullo_> ActionParsnip man had more 1 week i tryl to install the video and i cant
[10:22] <indus> Paullo_: try to install the nvidia 9xxx drivers
[10:22] <kuttans> thank you
[10:22] <TonyTheTiger> right, so iceroot would i just do sudo apt-get install gcc?
[10:22] <Paullo_> indus but they work with my card?
[10:22] <kuttans> anyone know about the hal deprecation and how karmic work around that
[10:22] <rags> can someone show me how to find the total capacity of a partition reading from a fdisk output?
[10:22] <indus> Paullo_: si
[10:23] <Paullo_> indus where i find?
[10:23] <kuttans> because the mouse pen driver is hal based and hald is not runing in karmic in my system
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Paullo_: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove     then reboot
[10:23] <iceroot> TonyTheTiger: for normal c-programs, its ok yes
[10:23] <indus> Paullo_: all in synaptic
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Paullo_: then once back in the gui run: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173 nvidia-173-modaliases
[10:23] <mr_danne123> Just the last question, how can I see the name of the wireless card?
[10:23] <cankoy> mr_danne123: is it internal, or connected to usb?
[10:23] <cishpix> anyone can help me about samba? I've upgrade my samba from previous version to 3.4.2. after that, my windows XP cannot login to the domain. I don't change anything in smb.conf. what should I do?
[10:23] <mr_danne123> internal
[10:23] <indus> Paullo_: nvidia-glx-96 is also good
[10:23] <TonyTheTiger> iceroot, sorry to probe but what do you mean for "normal c-programs"?
[10:23] <cankoy> mr_danne123: lspci
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> mr_danne123: sudo lshw -C network
[10:24] <iceroot> TonyTheTiger: there are also packages with more headers, like the kernel-headers
[10:24] <indus> Paullo_: mainmenu>system>administration >symnaptic package manager
[10:24] <TonyTheTiger> im a comp sci student so i would rather set it up properly once.
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> mr_danne123: once you get the product line you can use that in websearches
[10:24] <iceroot> TonyTheTiger: for ANSI-C you just need gcc
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> mr_danne123: if its some broadcom 43xx thing you will need this:
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | mr_danne123
[10:24] <psypher246> hi all, does anyone know why there seems to a be a 4GB file size limit when using nautilus to view ftp sites? The file is clearly larger than 4GB but it only shows 4GB, yet when i copy it it copies the whole file. this does not happen with firefox so not a server side issue
[10:25] <mr_danne123> thx I will look there
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> TonyTheTiger: so would none comp sci students want to set it up multiple times?
[10:25] <indus> Paullo_: always reboot after installing drivers
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> mr_danne123: the link is ONLY relevant if you have a broadcom based device
[10:25] <Paullo_> indus ActionParsnip i can´t enter in system
[10:25] <indus> Paullo_: why not?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Paullo_: its a terminal command
[10:25] <TonyTheTiger> ActionParsnip, depends, i cant answer for them. :D
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> !terminal | Paullo_
[10:26] <cankoy> wireless(Atheros) is broken after upgrade to Karmic, kernel log says "wlan0: disassociating by local choice (reason=3)". Any idea how to fix?
[10:26] <indus> Paullo_: what do you see in front ?
[10:26] <Paullo_> because im install the 173 yesterday and now just enter in mode text
[10:26] <indus> Paullo_: ok no problem
[10:26] <Paullo_> but i can enter with irssi and try
[10:26] <cishpix> anyone can help me about samba? I've upgrade my samba from previous version to 3.4.2. after that, my windows XP cannot login to the domain. I don't change anything in smb.conf. what should I do?
[10:26] <indus> Paullo_: in prompt, type sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-96
[10:26] <Paullo_> now im in windows i enter there end us give the information ok?
[10:26] <iceroot> cishpix: #samba
[10:27] <Paullo_> indus this comando will replace the atual driver?
[10:27] <indus> Paullo_: hmm windows?
[10:27] <iceroot> cishpix: and maybe #windows
[10:27] <indus> Paullo_: this command installare a different versione of the drivers :)
[10:27] <indus> Paullo_: will remove 173v and install 96
[10:27] <cishpix> iceroot: I've ask the question to #samba but nobody respond to me
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> Paullo_: ok uninstall all the nvidia stuff using my command and reboot, you will then use the open nv driver. You can then run the command I gave to install the driver and then reboot, if that doesnt help redo it all but before the 2nd reboot run: sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[10:27] <iceroot> cishpix: then you have to wait
[10:27] <Oyoz> is there an antivirus for ubuntu??
[10:28] <iceroot> Oyoz: clamav
[10:28] <erUSUL> !av | Oyoz
[10:28] <seed__> 0.0
[10:28] <cishpix> iceroot: off course
[10:28] <indus> Paullo_: ok you can follow ActionParsnip or he 'll kill me
[10:28] <Paullo_> haha
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> indus: i'm just suggesting :D
[10:28] <Paullo_> ActionParsnip i install the 173?
[10:28] <Paullo_> im install this drive yesterday and i cant enter in X today =/
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Paullo_: sure, just make sure you remove all the nvidia packages in command line then reboot
[10:29] <Paullo_> ActionParsnip man but yesterday i install the 173 and they don´t run
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> Paullo_: you can then run: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173 nvidia-173-modaliases    to install the driver once back in X
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> Paullo_: did the DKMS stage complete?
[10:29] <Paullo_> ActionParsnip DKMS what is this?
[10:30] <indus> ActionParsnip: modaliases i think is automatically installed? no?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Paullo_: if you watched the screen while the driver installed you'd see it
[10:30] <indus> hmm no
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> indus: not sure, i always tell it, its in a few guides ive read too so I always explicitly install it
[10:30] <Paullo_> ActionParsnip they install sucessul
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Paullo_: but does DKMS run?
[10:30] <Paullo_> ActionParsnip i reinstall the ubuntu more 10 times man
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Paullo_: DKMS makes the kernel driver for the card for the current kernel
[10:30] <indus> ActionParsnip: actually its only required so that driver appears in hardware drivers, i remember
[10:30] <Paullo_> i try to install this with many metods
[10:31] <VanessaE> great, now I've lost sound entirely.
[10:31] <indus> it should be auto
[10:31]  * VanessaE screams!
[10:31] <Paullo_> ActionParsnip i dont now answear this question
[10:31] <indus> Paullo_: did you download nvidia driver from website ?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> Paullo_: whats the question
[10:31] <kryptn> Quick question, How do i prevent windows in gnome to go above the top x pixels of my screen?
[10:31] <indus> VanessaE: why scream?
[10:31] <Paullo_> indus i try to web sit too
[10:31] <Paullo_> ActionParsnip DKMS
[10:31] <VanessaE> indus: because Linux right now is being STUPID.
[10:32] <VanessaE> $ alsamixer   -->  alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[10:32] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: correction  Linux itself the kernel is fine or pretty much fine,  your sound issue will be an Ubuntu issue
[10:32] <VanessaE> wtf does this mean in English?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Paullo_: i told you, it makes the kernel module driver for the card for the current kernel, it will run each time you get a new kernel to give the new nvidia kernel module
[10:32] <kryptn> I dont want windows to overlap my conky window
[10:32] <indus> Paullo_: its called dynamic kernel module support, means you dont have to update kernel every time you update the driver
[10:32] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: I know your angry, but you shoudn't really swear in this channel
[10:33] <Paullo_> await i cant enter in X but i cant enter in irssi(irc for terminal)there i enter here
[10:33] <Dretje> hello, I just did an upgrade from version 9.04 to 9.10 but now my Wireless hardware is not fully recognized. I am using the SMC 2835W EU (not v2) PC card
[10:33] <Paullo_> and talk
[10:33] <Tesssa> 9.10 tells you and advises you nvidia drivers and highlights 185  Paullo as 9.04 does and will install them
[10:33] <Tesssa> did for me
[10:33] <Paullo_> im going to linux now
[10:33] <Paullo_> await
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Paullo_: thats because irssi does not need an x server to run
[10:33] <sebsebseb> Dretje: and it worked fine in 9.04 yes?  Well many people have experienced problems after upgrading 9.04 to 9.10.
[10:33] <Paullo_> yeah
[10:33] <indus> 185 drivers suck
[10:33] <Paullo_> await
[10:33] <indus> iam on 173
[10:33] <indus> all 180 is bad for older cards
[10:33] <Dretje> YES worked very well indeed
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> indus: i use 190, not too bad at all
[10:33] <TonyTheTiger> sebsebseb, what do you mean sound is ubuntu? does the kernel not handle the sound and if not how is the sound module a part of ubuntu?
[10:34] <indus> i loved the 88 series from dapper actually
[10:34] <indus> worked super with my 7600 gt
[10:34] <Tesssa> 185 is working brilliant for me in 9.10
[10:34] <Beryllium> Hmm, just tried installing 190, when I restarted xserver would not start, couldn't even get to a TTY
[10:34] <VanessaE> in this case, I indeed mean Linux, as in the kernel.
[10:34] <sebsebseb> TonyTheTiger: pulseaudio issues and such since Ubuntu 8.04,  many other distros though have been rather fine with puleaudio
[10:34] <indus> Tesssa: try running a game wit h it and al artifacts appear
[10:34] <VanessaE> just downgraded to <IP_ADDRESS>, which I *know for a fact* works fine on this box.
[10:34] <jest> I have problem with typing accented letters using AltGr
[10:34] <indus> doesnt return to the desktop cleanly with tearing of wallpaper across etc
[10:35] <erUSUL> TonyTheTiger: the stack is → kernel+alsa_sound_drivers <---> alsa_libs + pulseaudio <---> applications
[10:35] <jest> After 2-3 days ago' update AltGr stopped working and behaves just like normal Alt
[10:35] <indus> dell developed dkms btw
[10:35] <jest> Does anyone experience something similar?
[10:35] <whammo> this is funny: I see under wireless connections "Last Used: 1 day ago" but network-manager doesn't remember what it did yesterday, fwcutter only pretends like it did its job, lspci sees the devices but isn't telling, and jockey decided to clock out without telling anybody. sounds like a union shop! keep reinstalling and rebooting... it's ten minutes until lunch
[10:35] <Paullo_> ActionParsnip: indes im in irssi
[10:35] <Paullo_> now
[10:35] <Tesssa> mine isnt a older card indus and it works perfect
[10:35] <sebsebseb> Dretje: well  not much in 9.10  that is worth it end user featurewise, as in stuff you see.   It's still ok to run 9.04,  it has  about a year of support left,   plus  10.04 will be out at the end of April which is the next Long Term Support version,  which has to be pretty good, or I have a feeling quite a few people wil be leaving Ubuntu
[10:35] <linNewb> sebsebseb, right but what i dont understand is since distro's are effectively different application set ups then why one thing doesnt work in one situation and does in another distro...
[10:35] <indus> Tesssa: ok
[10:35] <Paullo_>  comands what u sad?
[10:36] <indus> Tesssa: dont know, iam unhappy ever since 18* came out
[10:36] <Tesssa> as 180 did in 9.04
[10:36] <indus> Tesssa: happily using 173 now
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Paullo_: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*
[10:36] <Oyoz> when i type iwconfig,it says no wireless extention.What could be the problem?
[10:36] <indus> Tesssa: but 190 has gpu fan speed control it seems so iam curious
[10:36] <jaysonsantos> Hello guys, After upgrading to Ubuntu Karmic my compiz is extremely low. Is the something I can do to solve that ?
[10:36] <sebsebseb> linNewb: ,beause  they  don't all deal with wireless and sound exactly the same for example
[10:37] <Beryllium> I'm having problems with 190, hangs at blackscreen when I boot.
[10:37] <linNewb> ok i guess ill leave it at that for now.
[10:37] <Dillizar> hi what do i need to type in terminal so i can add my xorg
[10:37] <Tesssa> the upgrade advised me 185 so i did that one
[10:37] <Oyoz> my laptop is wireless certified,but i don't access the net wirelessly
[10:37] <Dretje> SebSebSeb: what you say is just wait , see and downgrade again :-). I will try another card. Maybe this will work fine thanx.
[10:37] <kryptn> How do i prevent windows from overlapping conky?
[10:38] <sebsebseb> Dretje: If it worked fine in 9.04,  not much point really trying to configure it in 9.10 in my opinion,  just put 9.04 back on.   Or even try some other distros if you want.
[10:39] <sebsebseb> Dretje: also calling 9.04 a downgrade isn't  quite right, because with Ubuntu it's not about what is the latest version or  the Long Term Support version,  it's about which releases are still supported
[10:39] <Dillizar> how can i change my xorg? only half of my display is working
[10:39] <Beryllium> Is there a way to store my current applications/user data in some way that I can transfer to a new installation?
[10:39] <sebsebseb> Dretje: sometimes an older version is going to be better for a user, beasue of the user them selves, or their hardware, or both
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Beryllium: backup the entirety of $HOME
[10:40] <sebsebseb> Dretje: Newer is not always better!
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Beryllium: the settings for apps are stored in hidden folders in there so transferring those will transfer settings
[10:40] <Tesssa> must admit indus had a lot of problems trying to get 9.10 onto my puter tried one last time if that didnt work i was going back to 9.04 but it worked though must admit don't know why i bothered
[10:40] <Beryllium> ActionParsnip: Much thanks.
[10:41] <Dretje> Sebsebseb: I learned not to upgrade just like this. Wait and try first. I will try to get it running (just for the learning and share this with the community. Newer is a challenge, not always beter
[10:41] <sebsebseb> Tesssa: Don't know why you bothered doing what?  Upgrading to 9.10?
[10:41] <Tesssa> yep sebsebseb
[10:41] <sebsebseb> Dretje: Well I suggest checking out the release notes when a new version comes out
[10:41] <sebsebseb> Dretje: Then you can also make a more educated decision if your going to upgrade or not.
[10:41] <sebsebseb> Dretje: Plus if you wait a bit  you can check out this channel for the issues.
[10:42] <VanessaE> no asoundconf utility in Karmic either?
[10:42] <VanessaE> GAH!
[10:42] <Tesssa> its slower to boot up and doesnt do anything different or better than 9.04
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Beryllium: if the settings are important to you you should have them backed up anyway
[10:42] <Tesssa> well not to me
[10:42] <sebsebseb> Dretje: Before  you  get it yourself or not.
[10:42] <sebsebseb> Tesssa:  It's meant to be faster to boot up
[10:42] <Tesssa> but will see how it goes on
[10:42] <Dretje> SebSebSeb: my virtual machines  work just fine using 9.10. So nothing happens when trying out. My descision is based on testing. No harm is done when this goes wrong
[10:43] <Tesssa> i can assure you sebsebseb it is slower on boot up
[10:43] <sebsebseb> !notes |  Dretje
[10:43] <knecht> i need to compile openCV on ubuntu karmic, can't get it compiling when using the instructions on http://opencv.willowgarage.com/wiki/InstallGuide.  Does anyone use OpenCV Version 2 on Ubuntu Karmic ?
[10:43] <Dillizar> how can i edit my xorg?
[10:43] <Tesssa> but no doubt as time goes on it will get better
[10:44] <anormallu> hi
[10:44] <sebsebseb> Dretje: Yes that's something else you can do  test it,  on a spare computer,  or in a virtual machine or whatever, whilst  it's in development,  I have been doing this since Alpha 4 on this one, so got boot up issues still, but when I get round to installing the final,  that should go away.   It's looking like the weekend when I do OS stuff on this computer.
[10:44] <anormallu> i have a question
[10:44] <ycat> Hello there! I have a problem concerning the detection of a usb-hdd file format under ubuntu. only text mode is available. Any hints? (Using Ubuntu 8.10). The detection of the proper file format is needed for a backup. Thanks in advance!
[10:44] <SURFkees> Anyone know what this error message is? "Clocksource tsc unstable"
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Dillizar: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    if you have installed karmic rather than upgraded to karmic you do not have the file (but you can make one if you want and it will be used)
[10:45] <VanessaE> so what am I supposed to use to configure alsa from the command line, with asoundconf gone?
[10:45] <sebsebseb> Dretje: ,but from what I have seen of 9.10 I am not impressed, so  i'll be keeping the other computer on 9.04 for now.   Plus  how if I upgrade it I might get issues, and I don't feel like clean installing Ubuntu any time soon on there.
[10:45]  * VanessaE grumbles
[10:45] <anormallu> i installed proftpd in ubuntu 9.10 ... cand you tell me what i have to do to setup the user witch is conecting to ftp to see just the folder /home/ftp-share and do not have access to see all the folders from /
[10:45] <anormallu> ??
[10:46] <Dillizar> ActionParsnip, bope i just installed on a powerpc ibook :)
[10:46] <anormallu> pls
[10:46] <whammo> VanessaE: it's a pulse world, now. ALSA was standing in the way of progress progress *goosestepping*
[10:47] <sebsebseb> !ask |  anormallu
[10:47] <VanessaE> oh don't even get me started on that POS known as pulseaudio.
[10:47] <sebsebseb> anormallu: oh you already did
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Dillizar: then you will need to find a skeleton file you can copy / flesh out
[10:47]  * DigitalKiwi gets VanessaE started
[10:47] <anormallu> :)
[10:47] <VanessaE> yet another solution in search of a problem
[10:47] <whammo> heh
[10:47] <jest> I have problem with typing accented letters using AltGr.
[10:47] <jest> After 2-3 days ago' update AltGr stopped working and behaves just like normal Alt.
[10:47] <jest> Does anyone experience something similar?
[10:47] <DigitalKiwi> that pulseaudio sure does work excellently
[10:48] <Dillizar> ActionParsnip,  do you have one :)
[10:48] <linNewb> ..
[10:48] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: I thinik it depends on the distro  how good or bad  Pulseaudio is, as well as the users sound hardware of course.
[10:49] <barra_> can i install virtualbox on ubuntu server?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Dillizar: I can give you mine, if you empty out the details you could use it, you must leave the identifiers in
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> barra_: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[10:49] <sebsebseb> barra_: uhmm  I guess so,  but if your using the server version and on 64bit you could do KVM instead
[10:49] <barra_> think u
[10:49] <sebsebseb> barra_: as long as you got hardware virtulization
[10:49] <Dretje> Ebsebseb: The world of virtual machines is just great. Running Vsphere you can do anything you like without compromising the stability of your enviremont. Thanx I'll be on my way
[10:49] <whammo> umm maybe pulse is better now. ardour2 worked almost instantly for me without any fuss, except I've been too busy to find if it's good for the job this time
[10:49] <Dillizar> let me just try to make my own :)
[10:49] <brijith> any one have any idea about the status of bug in connecting mobile broadband in ubuntu 9.10
[10:50] <brijith> is it fixed
[10:50] <whammo> well people said it was just fine before, too
[10:50] <sebsebseb> barra_: maybe  KVM would be better in your case,  I don't know though, since I  don't use it.   I do use Virtualbox
[10:50] <sebsebseb> Dretje: Vsphere??
[10:51] <Dretje> sebsebseb: Vmware v4
[10:51] <sebsebseb> Dretje: sounds like an old version of  a VMware product
[10:51] <sebsebseb> Dretje: not sure what versions they are currently on
[10:52] <sebsebseb> Dretje: plus most people recommend Virtualbox in here
[10:53] <catmando> hey all
[10:53] <sp4z> hey
[10:53] <AdvoWork> if free -m shows 6083  so is that 6gb?
[10:53]  * VanessaE reboots with the standard karmic kernel and uninstalls the custom one.
[10:53]  * VanessaE grumbles LOUDLY.
[10:53] <catmando> little help - i'm a convert from fedora
[10:53] <sebsebseb> catmando: hi
[10:53] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: oh you did a custom kernel as well
[10:53] <VanessaE> no\
[10:53] <VanessaE> I did a generic kernel.
[10:54] <catmando> i'm trying to set up my vncserver for multiuser access
[10:54] <barra_> i ve vista &ubuntu server on the same notebook and a vm on ubuntuserver for bsd fedora and solaris
[10:54] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: yeah usaully I guess it's best to use the kernel that  Ubuntu comes with, or one you get as an update from the standard repos
[10:54] <anormallu> i installed proftpd in ubuntu 9.10 ... cand you tell me what i have to do to setup the user witch is conecting to ftp to see just the folder /home/ftp-share and do not have access to see all the folders from /  ???
[10:54] <VanessaE> I'm back on the generic, Ubuntu-supplied 2.6.31 kernel (the one that has the skipping audio problem)
[10:54] <catmando> in fedora, i'd just run the vndpassword command for each user and then set geometries and such in vncservers
[10:54] <sebrock> Got a quick question here, when I install a new kernel or header files I get two packages of each, eg. linux-headers-2.6.31-14 and linux-headers-2.6.31-14-server. This is on a Ubuntu server. Why do I get two packages? Same goes for kernel: linux-image-2.6.31-14-server and linux-image-server
[10:54] <catmando> but all i can find for ubuntu is single-user stuff
[10:54] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: Ever done Gentoo?   You can  basically build your own distro or whatever.
[10:55] <VanessaE> sebsebseb, yes, I have used Gentoo.
[10:55] <catmando> can someone point me to an article?
[10:55] <linNewb> is there a way to check the performance of my hardware? because firefox is being very sluggish.
[10:55] <VanessaE> sad to say, I'm thinking about switching back to it.
[10:55] <Dretje> Sebsebseb: Vsphere is the latest edition of the ESX server family. Virtual box is nice but not as sophisticated as the server version of Vmware. The best free software can get, you only need hardware that is compatible. VIrtualbox is more flexible with hardware, but not as stable as this.
[10:55] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: Sabayon is a more user friendly version of Gentoo
[10:57] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: if you don't want to go back to 9.04, well then yes it could be worth you trying other distros again
[10:58] <catmando> anyone?
[10:58] <moddexx> dudes, i need help with virtual host in apache
[10:58] <barra_> i m new with ubuntu server9.10 how can i process already install on dual boot with vista
[10:58] <Tesssa> have you tried LinuxMint VanessaE
[10:58] <sebsebseb> Tesssa: uhmmm  she probably won't like  Mint, since she has 10 years of Linux experience
[10:59] <sebsebseb> Tesssa: Plus since it's based on Ubuntu it will have  most of the same issues I guess
[10:59] <csaba> if I want to run svn from the console, I need to install "subversion". But this also installs the svn server. Can I just install the client?
[10:59] <moddexx> pm me if you can help me on virtual host in apache2
[11:00] <Tesssa> well is she wants linux then its best to do her own thing i guess
[11:00] <jrib> csaba: it doesn't actually run any server it gives you the commands to create one
[11:01] <linNewb> what web browsers do you guys use on ubuntu? because firefox seems to be very sluggish on my laptop.
[11:01] <catmando> no? nothing?
[11:01] <csaba> jrib: thanks
[11:01] <moddexx> FIREFOX
[11:01] <sebsebseb> linNewb: These are all nice alterntives,  Epiphany, Galeon,  Konqueror, and Arora
[11:02] <mgv> how can i set better filters in adblock?
[11:02] <linNewb> sebsebseb, do you know which of them is the lightest on resources?
[11:02] <Tesssa> i have toyed with the idea of downloading Xfce and adding my own packages to make my own
[11:02] <sebrock> Got a quick question here, when I install a new kernel or header files I get two packages of each, eg. linux-headers-2.6.31-14 and linux-headers-2.6.31-14-server. This is on a Ubuntu server. Why do I get two packages? Same goes for kernel: linux-image-2.6.31-14-server and linux-image-server
[11:02] <Dretje> bye al;
[11:02] <sebsebseb> !browsers |  linNewb
[11:02] <sebsebseb> linNewb: Dillo is rather lite waight on resources
[11:03] <linNewb> sebsebseb, thanks :)
[11:03] <linNewb> what about midori?
[11:03] <sebsebseb> linNewb: and even more lite waight would be text only brwosers, those can be fun to play with, well at least for people like me
[11:03] <catmando> one more time - does anyone have any experience with multiple user vncservers  in ubuntu?
[11:03] <barra_> about kvm?
[11:03] <sebsebseb> barra_: I don't know much about it, but there was a session about it yesterday as part of Ubuntu Open Week there's a log as well
[11:03] <jrib> catmando: just ask the channel your real question please
[11:04] <coolpro> Hello. Is there any software on Ubuntu which allows connecting cellphone through Bluetooth so I could transfer files and send sms messages from my computer?
[11:05] <barra_> is kvm better than virtualbox on ubuntu?
[11:05] <VanessaE> there, the target machine's back in the state it was in when I first signed on (with the Ubuntu-supplied kernel)
[11:06] <sebsebseb> barra_: depends on what it's going to be used for and the user,   this is also the same answer  in reply to,  is Virtualbox better than VMware
[11:06] <jrib> coolpro: yeah there are some default bluetooth utilities that let you do that.  "bluez" and "obex" are terms you can use to find more info
[11:06] <kebomix> i have ubuntu 9.10 and ati 3650 card,   it is very slow while restoring windows (Unminimize) , any solution ?
[11:06] <VanessaE> now I'm seeing something the GUI programs weren't bothering to tell me - buffer underruns during playback.
[11:06] <sebsebseb> !best |  barra_
[11:06] <Paddy1> Hi.  With the release of Karmic with broken 3g usb modem support, a bug which was reported and flagged by the reporters as being critical, but with not even a mention of this in the Release Notes, I'm trying to find out how such a thing could happen.  Is Canonical even aware of this issue and how can it be raised or escalated ?  An entire category of network h/w and users have been left with useless laptops and no easy way gain access to the internet, so what
[11:06] <catmando> jrib, i did - I want to know how to set up tightvnc to allow multiple users to connect to their own desktop.;
[11:06] <VanessaE> (using a command line util to play music, for testing)
[11:07] <jrib> coolpro: here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:07] <barra_> i don t want to talk about vmware because it is not free
[11:07] <sebsebseb> Paddy1: Of course people can put 9.04 back on, but many won't want too.
[11:07] <VanessaE> sebsebseb, many *can't* put it back on
[11:07] <VanessaE> it's too old
[11:07] <jrib> Paddy1: if you're asking about bug procedures, try #ubuntu-bugs
[11:07] <sebsebseb> VanessaE: no it's not since it's still supported by security updates
[11:08] <Tesssa> 9.04 works perfect
[11:08] <VanessaE> security updates != normal software
[11:08] <coolpro> jrib: can i send sms messages with them?
[11:08] <jrib> coolpro: don't know
[11:08] <Tesssa>  updates for 12 months
[11:08] <VanessaE> you ask for help with a program, the first thing the author usually asks is "did you try the latest version"
[11:08] <juritecnia> hello
[11:09] <VanessaE> and 9 times out of 10, you need the latest version of your *distro* (that's Karmic) in order to try the latest version of the program in question
[11:09] <juritecnia4> Hola Dani
[11:09] <Paddy1> sebsebseb: Thanks.  The issue is that many people cannot put it back on, they cannot redownload it, or anything else.  What can be done in a situation such as this, it's chicken and egg?
[11:09] <VanessaE> I run into this quite frequently.
[11:09] <barra_> ok thanks for all answers
[11:09] <fr4gd13b> hi, i have the probloem discussed here #374090. Now, i need to install ubuntu somehow on that machine. But the alternate 9.10 installer just wont give me the cureses based setup screen. How do i force the installer to use the very minimum gfx drivers ?
[11:09] <juritecnia> bye
[11:09] <whammo> so madwifi doesn't exist in repo anymore, anybody here have a working ar2413 card?
[11:09] <sebsebseb> Paddy1: I heard about some ping program or something,  that makes  going back to an older release or wahtever easier
[11:10] <sebsebseb> Paddy1: since you put stuff on the external hard disk, and then just restore or something
[11:10] <barra_> bye
[11:10] <Carnage\> I recently updated to Ubuntu Karmic and I just realised, that there is no `smbpasswd` program anymore to administrate the samba users.
[11:10] <Carnage\> Does anybody now what program replaced it?
[11:10] <Carnage\> Funny enough, I found a tutorial on the web how to setup samba with Karmic and it uses smbpasswd...
[11:11] <VanessaE> carnage: my karmic box has smbpasswd
[11:11] <jrib> Carnage\: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=smbpasswd&mode=exactfilename&suite=karmic&arch=any
[11:11] <danne_> hello can anyone help me? I need to get wifi up and running. I got Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 as a network card. Trying to use this guide to get it working: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx . But I dont know how to activat b43-fwcutter
[11:11] <jrib> Carnage\: you probably don't have samba installed
[11:12] <igama> danne_, install this packages : bcmwl-kernel-source bcmwl-modaliases
[11:12] <Carnage\> I have samba installed, but apparently smbpasswd got moved to a different package
[11:12] <VanessaE> I was about to say that if he were to just type 'smbpasswd' at the command line, the terminal will respond with the name of the package he needs.
[11:12] <kebomix> hello , i downloaded ati driver from ati's website , any idea how to remove it ?
[11:12] <Carnage\> jrib: But installing smb-common-bin solves my problem
[11:12] <Carnage\> VanessaE: It didn't here
[11:12] <VanessaE> weird
[11:12] <Carnage\> And I tried search with apt-file which somehow didn't come up with that package...
[11:13] <VanessaE> still, that's a feature I'm still getting used to
[11:13] <danne_> could not find bcmwl-kernel-source bcmwl-modaliases
[11:13] <VanessaE> 10 years of "$foo: command not found" kinda sticks with you. :)
[11:13] <Carnage\> That's right
[11:13] <Carnage\> Well I used that feature several times already too. But this time, it didn't get triggered, for whatever reason...
[11:14] <Carnage\> Thanks for your help! :)
[11:14] <VanessaE> now, if there's one feature I need to *disable*, it's this G*d forsaken application-specific tab complete thing
[11:14] <Paullo_> action
[11:14] <Paullo_> exit?
[11:14] <Paullo_> action(something)?
[11:14] <jrib> Paullo_: what are you doing?
[11:14] <danne_> I got b43-fwcutter but how do I activate it? Apt-get couldnt find bcmwl-kernel-source bcmwl-modaliases
[11:14] <danne_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[11:14] <Paullo_> jrib: the person with nickname action(something)exit?
[11:14] <Paullo_> he help me i rebot
[11:15] <Paullo_> and he not here more =[
[11:15] <jrib> Paullo_: yeah.  ActionParsnip left
[11:15] <VanessaE> (every now and again, I run into a combination of program and argument that I can't tab complete because the subsystem controlling it thinks that the program can't open certain types of files, when I know it can)
[11:15] <moddexx> buongiorno belle e belli,
[11:15] <jrib> VanessaE: so fix the tab completion :)
[11:15] <Paullo_> jrib: i try to install my video
[11:16] <Paullo_> i install the exactaly drive
[11:16] <Paddy1> sebsebseb:  I'm not affected myself, (well I am, and could work around, but it's such a hassle I changed distro).  My concern is that such a huge regression could be reported yet was seemingly missed entirely, and the consequences are huge.   EG. I'm sure a vast majority of netbooks use 3g connections, so what for Ubuntu Netbook Remix users who've upgraded and don't have physical media for reinstalls of old versions ?  I'm trying to find out how to raise this
[11:16] <VanessaE> jrib: I have no idea how - this is a new feature to me
[11:16] <jrib> !enter | Paullo_
[11:16] <Paullo_> but i rebot and just back with mode text
[11:16] <Paullo_> sorry
[11:16] <moddexx> does your rhythmbox have problem in ubutu 9.10??????????????
[11:16] <pmo> nope
[11:16] <danne_> i got internet acess throw wierd network now but the problem is to set the wireless
[11:16] <Paullo_> moddexx: acept update and problem go out
[11:17] <jrib> VanessaE: starting by reading about the "bash-completion" package is where I would start  (I don't use bash, so don't know)
[11:17] <iceroot> how to delete a file and all hardlinks on it?
[11:17] <Paullo_> I install my video card,rebot and now just enter in mode text,what im do??
[11:17] <jrib> iceroot: you'd probably use find
[11:17] <VanessaE> ahh
[11:17] <VanessaE> yeah, that's the package in question, jrib
[11:18] <iceroot> jrib: hm, so there is no way to do a real delete on the file on harddisk?
[11:18] <VanessaE> I'll dig into it later, I'm too frustrated right now over this stupid sound issue.
[11:18] <jrib> iceroot: what do you mean real delete?
[11:18]  * VanessaE grumbles.  buffer underruns on an Athlon 64x2 3800+ with a gig of ram.  Shameful.
[11:19] <iceroot> jrib: rm foo  is deleting the file and counting the hardlink-counter -1, if hardlink = 0, the file is no more on the hdd
[11:19] <purple_processor> VanessaE: well Ive found tab-completions dont work for root user files unless you sudo b4 it.. so there might be somthing there
[11:19] <jrib> iceroot: right
[11:19] <iceroot> jrib: and i want to set hardlink=0
[11:19] <Paullo_> I install my video card,rebot and now just enter in mode text,what im do??
[11:20] <jrib> iceroot: then rm all of the hardlinks using for example « find »
[11:20] <VanessaE> purple_processor, perhaps, but I was referring to a scenerio like this:  $ xine /ho{tab}van{tab}somefile{tab}  <-- should expand to somefile-or-another.iso
[11:21] <VanessaE> but the bash-completion thing thinks that xine can't deal with an ISO file, so it refuses to let me tab-complete it.
[11:21] <iceroot> jrib: yes, find is one way to do it, i thought there is maybe a special rm option but cant find anything in manpage.  a find can take very long, hardlink=0 should be faster
[11:21] <jrib> iceroot: how do you envision that working out of curiousity?
[11:22] <purple_processor> VanessaE: And when you remove xine it completes fine? from CLI
[11:23] <iceroot> jrib: good question
[11:23] <VanessaE> purple_processor, well, if I were, say, to try nano /ho{tab}van{tab}somefile{tab}  then sure, it'll complete it.
[11:23]  * ZachK_ is here and available for giving assistance
[11:23] <lukjad007> hey ZachK_
[11:23] <ZachK_> haha
[11:23] <ZachK_> hey lukes
[11:23] <VanessaE> (even though you'd never realistically open a 700 meg ISO with nano :-) )
[11:23] <ZachK_> hey lukjad007
[11:24] <lukjad007> :)
[11:24] <S-cape> Hi
[11:24] <VanessaE> (well, 4.4 gigs, since it's a dvd image in this example)
[11:24] <ZachK_> !hi | S-cape
[11:24] <theTroy> Hello. How to make ubuntu karmic to remember the authorisation given to the CPU applet (to change the politics on the CPU scaling) Because at the moment I have to enter it every tme I want to change, and that is inconvenient. Thank you. It worked in jauntry when you could just click the "remember for this session, or permanently" button.
[11:25] <S-cape> Hi Zach wots up
[11:25] <VanessaE> purple_processor, Normally, before this thing was put into place, I'd do something like:   $ xine /ho{tab}van{tab}somefile{tab} {home}  and then insert "dvd://" in front of the path.
[11:25] <ZachK_> S-cape: not much...just waiting for people to ask for help....
[11:25] <VanessaE> (since dvd:// isn't considered a valid path component)
[11:25] <the_doc> bonjour
[11:26] <the_doc> j'ai un problème avec un server dns
[11:26] <JediMaster> that is insane, ubuntu 9.10 install from USB stick, from the time I hit the power button, selected the USB stick to boot from to the time ubuntu had finished installing, rebooted and logged into the desktop (including formatting the drive and re-partitioning): 6 minutes! and better still, 21 seconds from the moment it hits grub to the desktop loading
[11:26] <epinky> !fr
[11:26] <VanessaE> but now, it's more like:  $ less /ho{tab}van{tab}somefile{tab}{home}  then erase "less" and replace it with "xine dvd://"
[11:26] <ZachK_> !fr | the_doc
[11:26] <Thermoelectric> Sorry to just "but in", But I'm having a bit of trouble with this command "tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.7.2.tar.gz -C /opt" which is what is on http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html for install. But it keeps throwing up errors. These errors to be precise. "tar: xampp-linux-1.7.2.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory" "tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now" "tar: Child returned status 2" "tar: Error exi
[11:26] <Thermoelectric> Any ideas?
[11:26] <FloodBot2> Thermoelectric: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:26] <VanessaE> JediMaster, Wish my box booted that fast.
[11:27] <the_doc> lors du lancement il me dit dans mes log qu'il na pas réussi a acceder a named.pid
[11:27] <maxagaz> how to determine my X DISPLAY ?
[11:27] <erUSUL> !fr > the_doc
[11:27] <maxagaz> with a command line
[11:27] <erUSUL> maxagaz: echo $DISPLAY ?
[11:27] <vermapratyush> i want to install ubuntu in my removable hard drive... where should i install grub .... so that i get the option to choose the OSes when my external hard drive is connected.. and logon to windows when not connected???
[11:27] <VanessaE> Thermoelectric, I know this sounds a little obvious, but have you tried using the full path to the file?
[11:27] <theTroy> Hello. How to make ubuntu karmic to remember the authorisation given to the CPU applet (to change the politics on the CPU scaling) Because at the moment I have to enter it every tme I want to change, and that is inconvenient. Thank you. It worked in jauntry when you could just click the "remember for this session, or permanently" button.
[11:27] <android_ani_> 2.8 core 2 duo processor with 2 GB ram...with minimal startup apps...takes 25 mins to boot in...is it normal?
[11:28] <JediMaster> VanessaE, this is a fresh install, I had debian->ubuntu 4.10 upgraded to 9.04 before plus loads of servers stuff (apache/mysql/nfs/dhcp etc) so it was a bit slower before =)
[11:28] <ZachK_> Thermoelectric: you will have to cd to the directory in which the file resides
[11:28] <vermapratyush> i want to install ubuntu in my removable hard drive... where should i install grub .... so that i get the option to choose the OSes when my external hard drive is connected.. and logon to windows when not connected???
[11:28] <papul> i have heard that ubuntu 9.10 has 40 bugs
[11:28] <papul> is that correct?
[11:28] <erUSUL> vermapratyush: on the usb drive
[11:28] <JediMaster> wow, is that all?
[11:28] <ZachK_> !spam > vermapratyush
[11:28] <the_doc> i have a problem with an dns install configuration
[11:28] <erUSUL> papul: probably more
[11:28] <erUSUL> !bugs | papul
[11:28] <JediMaster> papul, if so, that's insanely low
[11:28] <purple_processor> VanessaE: and nan deff cant open a iso... =-O there must be some filtering going on. I have seen what your talking about and entering full path of the file using tabs first, then return to start of line and enter xine...
[11:29] <VanessaE> JediMaster, as is my install.  Granted, I have a SCSi card and a USB game pad, both of which slow my boot time, but still.
[11:29] <the_doc> when i set up named and bind
[11:29] <theTroy> Hello. How to make ubuntu karmic to remember the authorisation given to the CPU applet (to change the politics on the CPU scaling) Because at the moment I have to enter it every tme I want to change, and that is inconvenient. Thank you. It worked in jauntry when you could just click the "remember for this session, or permanently" button.
[11:29] <papul> http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7600/1.html
[11:29] <papul> check this
[11:29] <ZachK_> theTroy: please do not spam
[11:29] <erUSUL> !repeat
[11:29] <VanessaE> purple_processor, exactly.  I want the old behavior back. :-)
[11:29] <vermapratyush> where do i get the option to select that
[11:29] <vermapratyush> ??
[11:29] <JediMaster> VanessaE, this is only a core2duo too, my quad boots no faster lol
[11:30] <erUSUL> !who vermapratyush
[11:30] <erUSUL> !who | vermapratyush
[11:30] <VanessaE> jedi: just a lowly athlon 64x2 3800+ here.  modest by today's standards, but you'd think it would be a little faster in some things.
[11:30]  * VanessaE looks over at her C64, which takes half a second to boot. :-)
[11:30] <papul> !tab
[11:30] <erUSUL> vermapratyush: in the jaunty installer it is in the advanced option on paritionning if i recall correctly
[11:31] <vermapratyush> erUSUL, where do i get the option to select the location of grub to be installed???
[11:31] <vermapratyush> erUSUL, thanks
[11:31] <Tesssa> ah mine is a 64 quad core and the bootup time for 9.10 is slower than the bootup time for 9.04
[11:32] <pvh_sa|wrk> hi. i recently upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and decided to try out empathy. now i can get empathy running but i don't see any contact list or notification icons. any idea what to do?
[11:32] <vermapratyush> erUSUL, i upgraded my ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 and i have lost the original grub settings.. in the new one i do not get the option to select windows... what should i do
[11:32] <android_ani_> Tesssa...disable samba ...NFS and bluetooth n see :) ( if u dont need them..that is)
[11:33] <Tesssa> i am disabeling nothing took me days to install 9.10
[11:33] <aaron11> Does anyone know how to configure a ZTE-AC8710 USB modem on Ubuntu 9.10. When I setup wvdial.conf and in a terminal run sudo wvdial, It says --> Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory
[11:33] <erUSUL> vermapratyush: add it again? editting /boot/grub/menu.lst there is an example on how to boot weindopws insede the file on the commnets
[11:33] <Tesssa>  don't want to take the chance of that happeing again
[11:33] <vermapratyush> erUSUL, thanks :)
[11:34] <alx909> hey everybody!
[11:34] <alx909>  how do i get a nice bootscreen? i installed via netboot and when i do normal boot i see a few commandlines and then gdm
[11:34] <mespejel> hello how can i use nautilus with permissions?
[11:34] <android_ani_> :Tesssa I meant System > Preferences > Startup Applications...( increases startup speed...disable onli if u are absolutely sure)
[11:34] <purple_processor> alx909: grub bootsplash
[11:34] <aaron11> Does anyone know how to configure a ZTE-AC8710 USB modem on Ubuntu 9.10. When I setup wvdial.conf and in a terminal run sudo wvdial, It says --> Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory
[11:35] <Multiply> I'm trying to boot from a live cd, over PXE, and so far it succeeded. But I keep getting: "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" - Why is that?
[11:35] <erUSUL> aaron11: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1147456
[11:35] <erUSUL> !repeat | aaron11
[11:35] <mespejel> hello anyone know how can i access nautilus with permissions
[11:35] <erUSUL> mespejel: what are you trying to do ?
[11:35] <aaron11> erUSUL: I want Ubuntu Karmic Koala
[11:35] <android_ani_> :mespejel   gksu nautilus
[11:35] <coz_> mespejel,  you mean as with root permission?
[11:35] <android_ani_> or gksudo nautilus
[11:35] <coz_> mespejel,  or sudo nautilus
[11:35] <erUSUL> !gksudo | coz_
[11:36] <iceroot> coz_: dont use sudo for gui
[11:36] <purple_processor> aaron11: do you have a /dev/modem link to your device?
[11:36] <coz_> iceroot,  and guys  old habits dies hard
[11:36] <Tesssa> i can put up with it untill 10.04 arrives it is a fast puter android_ani
[11:36] <aaron11> purple_processor: What do you mean
[11:36] <anton> hi
[11:36] <purple_processor> ls -la /dev/modem is it there?
[11:36] <aaron11> wait
[11:37] <android_ani_> lolzz...I keep hoping everytime..they improve Boot speed..come up with GUIs for automounting ntfs drives...grub editing...
[11:37] <aaron11> purple_processor: ls: cannot access /dev/modem: No such file or directory
[11:37] <coz_> android_ani_,   I think in karmic you are going to be wanting for those again :)
[11:37] <android_ani_> is it a usb modem? it has to be /dev/ttyACM0
[11:38] <damo> hiya all :)
[11:38] <purple_processor> aaron11: im only guessing but I bet /dev/modem is a softlink to a serial device.. ttys0 but I could be wrong. what does dmeg say when it pluged in.. should give it a device file in /dev/
[11:38] <aaron11> android_ani_: It is a USB modem
[11:38] <damo> im here to try and sort my mobile broadband
[11:38] <erUSUL> purple_processor: android_ani_ is a 3G modem/dongle
[11:38] <damo> its a usb modem
[11:38] <aaron11> purple_processor: Oh should I plug it in
[11:38] <android_ani_> coz_  i already have all those in Karmic except for bot speed :D...i got custom GUIs from synaptic and for grub...i made a pyGTK frontend
[11:39] <ZachK_> damo: hello
[11:39] <android_ani_> aaron11 type "lsusb" in the termina; and paste the results
[11:39] <coz_> android_ani_,  oh ok ... in my opinion karmic is the worse version  other than gutsy :)
[11:39] <damo> hello
[11:39] <purple_processor> aaron11:  erUSUL haha usb3g... yes id plug it in and see what dmesg reports..
[11:39] <damo> do u think i can get my mobile broadband to install and work with wine ?
[11:39] <sebsebseb> coz_: What?  Gutsy is a good version
[11:39] <anton> hi ive copied my root and home partition from my harddrive to a new one with rsync -a, edited menu.lst and fstab, but gnome wont start xserver does, errormessage before and after login in gdm is: /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check gives status 256 back and gdm says that powermanagers standardkonfiguration isnt installed properly, what do i have to do now
[11:39] <erUSUL> damo: no
[11:39] <damo> o
[11:40] <android_ani_> coz_ Karmic is better in terms of hardware support...more device drivers...my nvidia wasnt detedcted in gutsy...now it is :D
[11:40] <damo> hmmmm
[11:40] <damo> there must be a way for me to get my mobile broadband to work
[11:40] <damo> its a small usb modem
[11:40] <Paullo_> i install my video and after rebot the system just come back with mode text,what i need do????
[11:40] <|ns|nR8> probably is damo
[11:40] <coz_> android_ani_, I agree   but   the implilmentation of grub2  and the boot sequence is by far the worse
[11:40] <brijith> damo:i too have the same
[11:40] <brijith> damo:probelm
[11:40] <damo> and does yours work for ubuntu
[11:41] <|ns|nR8> i have to do a few hacks to get my mobile broadband working
[11:41] <ZachK_> damo: please use tab or type my whole nick ZachK_ in a message to me. that way it will be highlighted for me
[11:41] <brijith> |ns|nR8: can u explain
[11:41] <damo> f
[11:41] <damo> ok zachk
[11:41] <erUSUL> damo: Network Manager does not detect the modem ? System>Preferences>Network Configuration
[11:41] <awaad> I installed eclipse on ubuntu 9.10 using ubuntu software center, But I don't know how to add the ability of writing C, C++ and JAVA codes in it
[11:41] <aaron11> purple_processor: It is connected to another computer which is using the internet. And im getting internet because the other computer is hosting an ad-hoc connection. So if I disconnect there wond be anymore internet for me
[11:41] <awaad> Any one can help ?
[11:41] <damo> nope
[11:41] <damo> it doesnt detect it
[11:42] <Multiply> I'm trying to boot from a live cd, over PXE, and so far it succeeded. But I keep getting: "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" - Why is that? I simply want to access some files from my old PC, and transfer them to my backup server.
[11:42] <ZachK_> !anyone | awaad
[11:42] <|ns|nR8> this is what i have to do, to get my mobile broadband working http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1127935
[11:42] <android_ani_> coz _ grub 2 is ot perfected yet...but i really wish ubuntu comes up with something like opensuse ..a unified control panel
[11:43] <ZachK_> !repeat | awaad
[11:43] <sebsebseb> coz_: The new boot up hasn't been around for that long either so expect to maybe get problems with it
[11:43] <damo> no it will not detect my mobile broadband usb modem
[11:44] <damo> this sucks
[11:44] <awaad> How can I write JAVA, C and C++ codes on the eclipse installed on ubuntu 9.10 using ubuntu software center ?
[11:44] <ZachK_> awaad: you have to install the plugins
[11:44] <android_ani_> install jdk and link it to eclipse
[11:44] <android_ani_> also link gcc with eclipse
[11:44] <awaad> zack_: How can I install the plugins ?
[11:44] <abhi_> hiu
[11:44] <damo> im going to try and install my mobile broadband using wine
[11:44] <erUSUL> damo: wine does not work for drivers
[11:44] <android_ani_> :damo god luck with that :D
[11:45] <damo> lol
[11:45] <brijith> damo: check  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1314217
[11:45] <damo> k ty
[11:45] <purple_processor> aaron11: well you mayfind /dev/modem is created when you plug it in. reading dmesg and lsusb is what you need to do firdt then google the info you get..
[11:45] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: I was thinking something like that as well
[11:45] <anton> hilfe
[11:45] <sebsebseb> !de | anton
[11:46] <coz_> sebsebseb,  i understand    but grub2 beta seems the wrong approach  ...just my opinion
[11:46] <brijith> damo: in that one says by configuring wvdial could help him in connecting
[11:46] <awaad> zachK_: How can I install the plugins ?
[11:46] <damo> yh
[11:46] <damo> i see thanks
[11:46] <damo> brb im going to go figer this out
[11:46] <brijith> damo:google to get a good how to to configure it
[11:46] <sebsebseb> coz_: Well  Grub 2 is needed for Ext4,   9.04 has an older version or whatever when Ext4 is done
[11:46] <ZachK_> awaad: let me look
[11:46] <sebsebseb> coz_: That version can also be used in 9.10  after a 9.04 Ext4 upgrade
[11:47] <sebsebseb> I think
[11:47] <awaad> ZacK_: Take your time.
[11:47] <sebsebseb> coz_: I am not actsaully running the final just yet,  after testing on this computer since alpha 4.   Maybe i'll do my clean install tonight or tommorow.
[11:47]  * ZachK_ is researching for Awaad
[11:47] <coz_> sebsebseb,  ok   well I will have to do more research on this but   a script driven boot loader seems a bit   "bulky" especially for  general usage
[11:47] <android_ani_> having a separate /boot partition while installation solves many grub based problems
[11:47] <fr4gd13b> according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NC20 i only have to install a debian package for openchrome and edit the corg.conf. But i just dont have an xorg.conf? Where do i configure that?
[11:47] <sebsebseb> coz_: above maybe more like probably
[11:49] <sebsebseb> coz_: Re installing Ubuntu isn't exactly fun, but  tonight or  in the day on Saturday I think
[11:50] <coz_> sebsebseb,  you are reinstalling?
[11:50] <nic1> what is the command to open the cd?
[11:50] <brijith> damo: http://linux-minds.blogspot.com/2009/05/how-to-configure-bsnl-evdo-usb.html
[11:50] <coz_> nic1,   eject -T
[11:50] <coz_> nic1,  to close it is   eject -t
[11:51] <sebsebseb> coz_:  I am currently running an  that was alpha 4, that I have then  applied updates to, altough not got the recent updates.   It has a boot up issue as well, where the file systems want to check each time.   So yes  re installing as in getting rid of this install and putting the final on.
[11:51] <brijith> damo:it worked for me in ubuntu 8.04. I think it will be the same in 9.10 aslo
[11:51] <nic1> coz_, not to eject but i just inserted to see the contents?
[11:51] <ZachK_> awaad: [link] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE
[11:51] <coz_> sebsebseb,  well I dont think you will find better boot sequence on a fesh install of the release but its not bad
[11:51] <coz_> nic1,  oh!
[11:52] <coz_> nic1,   they should have popped open a window right away
[11:52] <Caesi> hi all - I updated to Ubuntu 9.10 and now my touchpad no longer works, could anyone help? :) cheers
[11:52] <sebsebseb> coz_: Well hopefuly it won't want to disk check every time I boot up :)
[11:52] <ZachK_> Caesi: problems have been found with upgrading rather than doing a fresh installation.
[11:52] <coz_> nic1,  you can go under  Place/Computer and right click the cd icon to see if it is recognizing the contents
[11:52] <sebsebseb> coz_: a recover a journal and whatever it does
[11:52] <coz_> sebsebseb,  it should not
[11:52] <Caesi> ZachK_: hm ok - anything I can do?
[11:53] <the_dark_warrio> Something strange happened with my printers: they are not available anymore. Entering in System > Administration > Printing gives me the Printer configuration window with the message "Not connect" in status bar. Also, I cant create new printers
[11:53] <DASPRiD> can somebody tell me why i don't have sound anymore in q3a (vanilla) since the 9.10 upgrade? on the console it tells me: broken pipe /dev/sdp
[11:53] <ZachK_> Caesi: do you have any important info on the system?
[11:53] <nic1> coz_: i dont have any gui, only terminal i have
[11:53] <DASPRiD> * /dev/dsp that is
[11:53] <Caesi> ZachK_: what are you suggesting? :))
[11:53] <coz_> DASPRiD,  open a terminal     alsamixer   see if anything is muted or the pcm slider is off
[11:53] <ZachK_> Caesi: please answer my question
[11:53] <Caesi> ZachK_: sorry.. not really, I can back it up
[11:53] <sebsebseb> coz_: plus I want to test the boot up and shut down  with Ext3 first and then do Ext4 for my proper install.   Since  Ext4 in 9.04 speeds up boot up and shut down and disk checking,  but since the kernel they have and such their it's not perfectly stable.
[11:53] <zoro> hi guys
[11:54] <Multiply> I'm trying to boot from a live cd, over PXE, and so far it succeeded. But I keep getting: "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" - Why is that? I simply want to access some files from my old PC, and transfer them to my backup server. - Same issue as here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264198 - Any suggestions?
[11:54] <zoro> I am looking to find madwifi-ng-r2756+ar5007.tar.gz but cant find it over internet
[11:54] <zoro> dont know why
[11:54] <ZachK_> Caesi: so if you lost what you have it would be a problem?
[11:54] <coz_> sebsebseb,  the boot in karmic is slow period  ext4 isnt going to make that faster...I just reinstalled fresh and it still takes about one minute to get to log on
[11:54] <sebsebseb> coz_: and most people that have done an upgrade from 9.04 will have Ext3
[11:54] <hacked_kernel> I using Empathy on Ubuntu Karmic, trying to add accounts but it can't connect to any protocol.
[11:54] <Caesi> ZachK_: no
[11:55] <ZachK_> Caesi: please be EXPLICIT. It would NOT CAUSE ANY issues?
[11:55] <Caesi> ZachK_: no it would not, I'm running Windows 7 on the other partition and Ubuntu 9.10 is just for fun
[11:55] <sebsebseb> coz_: the boot up is meant to be faster though.   Well  from what I have seen of 9.10 when testing I am not impressed, so if the final  is slower than 9.04 with Ext4  i'll probably put that back on, or  put another distro on
[11:56] <ZachK_> Caesi: ok..do you know how to download an ubuntu iso and then make a live cd of said iso?
[11:56] <Caesi> ZachK_: yes
[11:57] <ZachK_> Caesi: ok do that...download the i386 or x64 iso depending on your system of 9.10 jaunty and then burn a live cd of that...do a fresh install and then get back to me
[11:57] <coz_> sebsebseb,  You may be tempted to downgrade or use another distribution..I am an ubuntu die hard  so ...although I test other distributions I always come back :)
[11:57] <ZachK_> coz_: agreed
[11:58] <Caesi> ZachK_: hm ok thanks.. I was trying to avoid that, but I will maybe do so this weekend. Is it worth converting the partition to ext4?
[11:58] <indus> hacked_kernel: use pidgin then
[11:58] <indus> hacked_kernel: or..
[11:58] <ZachK_> Caesi: i honestly wouldn't know...sorry..but i don't use any os other than linux
[11:58] <erebus> Anyone ever run into an error where the install to a new hard disk, reboot and then receive the message saying disk ee0q ### etc not recognized press any key to continue? Not sure if it is something wrong with the formatting or what? Disk checks show no errors on the drive though...
[11:59] <indus> hacked_kernel: restart empathy and check if it connects
[11:59] <Caesi> ZachK_: yes, but are you using the new ext4 file system for Linux?
[11:59] <hacked_kernel> indus, i reinstalled it and i get the same problem
[11:59] <ZachK_> i wouldn't know Caesi ....
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> erebus: try booting to LiveCD to partition and format it, it could help
[11:59] <Caesi> ZachK_: ok thanks for your help, appreciated
[11:59] <ZachK_> Caesi: probably as i did a full install
[11:59] <indus> hacked_kernel: remove the folder .empathy in home folder and try
[11:59] <erebus> thanks ActionParsnip
[11:59] <Caesi> k cool
[11:59] <ZachK_> Caesi: no problem..that's what we are here for!
[11:59] <mo-needs-help> anyone has a solution to black screen after choosing "Try.." while booting from an usb stick (unr on netbook n130)
[12:00] <indus> hacked_kernel: do you see any users in main window?
[12:00] <sebsebseb> coz_: I started with Fedora Core 2 and 4,  with no Internet access since this silly wireless device, I coudn't exactly have that desktop hard wired at the time.  Then Ubuntu since the second release since 2005.   I did a lot of  distro vm'ing about two or three months ago, but other distros uhmm and I ended up staying with Ubuntu.  Plus Fedora 11 woudn't install on here since it didn't like my partitions.   I may not be fully happy with Ubuntu
[12:00] <sebsebseb> since 8.04, but I know how to use it,  and am used to it now.  So changing distro becomes a bit harder.
[12:00] <hacked_kernel> indus, no
[12:00] <hacked_kernel> indus, i have no .empathy dir
[12:00] <ZachK_> !pastebin > sebsebseb
[12:00] <indus> hacked_kernel: from system monitor,end program mission control
[12:00] <indus> hacked_kernel: frankly, i suggest using pidgin
[12:00] <sebsebseb> ZachK_: pastebinning that would be a bit silly really, plus it's off topic hmm
[12:01] <damo> please can someone tell me where to download some good ubuntu themes from
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> !theme | damo
[12:01] <zniavre_> gnome-look.org ?
[12:01] <coz_> sebsebseb,  my suggestion ...even though I complain....I would stick with ubuntu for now...it is most definitly getting better...and since  lucid will begin work soon  ...this will be the time to make suggestions  based on the "bad" stuff  in karmic
[12:01] <damo> ok thanks
[12:01] <geomi> Hi all. I would like to know if Ubuntu 9.10 creates partitions the right way, with an offset that is a power of 2, to avoid misalignment issues with SSDs and RAID arrays.
[12:01] <damo> cheers for that
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> geomi: i'd imagine it does whatever is needed
[12:02] <ZachK_> geomi: I second with ActionParsnip
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> geomi: you could always use manual partitioning if you want to be 100% sure
[12:02] <sebsebseb> coz_: well yeah the non LTS versions are for testing  new features and such.   If Lucid turns out not to be a rather good release,  maybe you and I should think more seriously about  switching distro,  or maybe even going BSD.
[12:02] <geomi> ActionParsnip: what does that even mean? it either does, or it doesnt... XP creates partitions at 31.5KiB thats BAD; Vista and higher at 1024KiB; this is still wrong for RAID5/SSDs with 640KiB erase blocks
[12:02] <sebsebseb> coz_: ,but yes Brainstorm that's where to suggest stuff,  I haven't done that before
[12:03] <goodnight> "Hey Ubuntu, stop making Linux look bad" http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7600/1.html
[12:03] <Caesi> how can I find out which kernel exactly I'm currently running?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> geomi: i'd imgine if something is needed in that way then ubuntu will do it, if you dont want to let the automatic stuff do its thing or want to be sure of it, you can set it up yourself so then you know its good
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Caesi: uname -a
[12:04] <Caesi> ActionParsnip: thanks
[12:04] <coz_> sebsebseb,  always feel free to suggest...with some decent explanation.. it will be heard  if not used  still worth the effort
[12:04] <csaba> if I have a service like mysqld, what should I do to have that service start automatically at system start?
[12:04] <erUSUL> csaba: that's done by default when you install it
[12:05] <csaba> erUSUL: let's assume it's not
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> !startup
[12:05] <erUSUL> csaba: use update-rc.d to add it
[12:05] <ZachK_> !hi | KristianDK
[12:05] <geomi> ActionParsnip: how can i set the offset myself then? The manual partitioner doesn't let me choose an offset
[12:06] <Caesi> How can I update to the newest kernel in Ubuntu 9.10 or is that just done automatically by updating/upgrading?
[12:06] <erUSUL> csaba: sudo update-rc.d [service_name] defaults
[12:06] <xand_> Hello folks, i need to record a win7 image which is in udf filesystem, however i can't open it neither in isomaster, k3b, brasero nor gnome-baker. I'm able to mount it with '-t udf' though. Can anyone please help ?
[12:06] <geomi> ActionParsnip: only "beginning" or "end" which still doesnt tell if i will end up with a misalignment or not
[12:06] <csaba> ah damn it only works on debian systems... I have redhat
[12:06] <erUSUL> Caesi: the later if you have "linux-image" package installed
[12:06] <aperson> anyone know what's up with these new 'wallpaper bundles' ?
[12:06] <aperson> and possibly how to create them?
[12:07] <geomi> ActionParsnip: as you may know, RAIDs and SSDs require partitions/filesystems to be properly aligned; without this filesystem blocks may cover two flash erase blocks; leading to lower performance and higher wear on the flash cells
[12:07] <KristianDK> Hello, I'm running ESXi with a ubuntu VM, i just switched from DHCP network to static, and now it says that i dont have a network card :S It worked perfectly before - have you heard of this before?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> geomi: you'd have to calculate the space with the offset andmake the partitions as needed
[12:07] <damo> need a site for themes for ubuntu
[12:07] <damo> the other one i tryed did not work
[12:07] <geomi> ActionParsnip: as said, i cannot enter an offset; and the only ubuntu forums thread i found did not have any answers
[12:07] <DJones> !themes | damo
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> geomi: for the start, you'd have to create a dummy partition, then delete it at the end to create te gaps
[12:08] <frogzoo> !themes
[12:08] <damo> k thanks now i got it
[12:08] <frogzoo> ah right
[12:08] <Caesi> erUSUL: thanks - I can see my menu.lst is booting the the old kernel (I didn't want to replace it because of the windows partition whilst I was upgrading) - can I just replace the kernel number in the entry?
[12:08] <damo> how do i apply the new downloaded theme ?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> !changetheme | damo
[12:09] <damo> yep got it thanks
[12:10] <tavasti> does vmware-server Version 2.0.2 work in karmic?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> geomi: maybe there is a different partitioning to which permits offsets, i'd check cfdisk and fdisk to see what they can do, the look into others
[12:10] <moddexx> any one has a working mic in Acer with Ubuntu???????
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> moddexx: is it muted?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> tavasti: can't see why not
[12:11] <erUSUL> Caesi: no; install the package i mentioned. if that did not updated the menu.lst then manually run « sudo update-grub »
[12:11] <the_dark_warrio> Guys, this is Urgent! I can't print anymore... my setup printers in Sys > Administration > Printing aren't visible anymore. It says "Not connected" in statusbar. Also, trying Server > connect doesn't work! Any hints?
[12:12] <longtime> Hi, I was wondering if anyone would be able to offer any help for my problem. I recently installed a video game via Wine and am recieving what I think is video lag, but may also be related to my firewall.
[12:12] <geomi> ActionParsnip: alright well thanks for your answers.. ill try fiddling with fdisk instead
[12:12] <the_dark_warrio> Note, Server > connect, and choosing Localhost gives me "CUPS server error", "There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'httpConnectionEncrypt failed'."
[12:13] <tavasti> ActionParsnip, 2.0.1 didn't work without some patching, incompatible with recent kernel
[12:13] <tj83> anyone know if the bug with devede is fixed where on some machines the final image comes out to be half the expected size?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> tavasti: its free to try
[12:13] <moddexx> @ActionParsnip hey, whats wrong with pm
[12:13] <oliver3> guys so I noticed the new audio control stuff in 9.10 doesn't work with OSS, any way I can make it?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> moddexx: keep stuff in the channel, its the whole point of having a channel, more people can help
[12:14] <longtime> Hi, I was wondering if anyone would be able to offer any help for my problem. I recently installed a video game via Wine and am recieving what I think is video lag, but may also be related to my firewall
[12:14] <uzi_> OSS is so ancient
[12:14] <moddexx> ok
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> !pm | moddexx
[12:14] <tavasti> ActionParsnip, I'm on slow line, and need to decide do I download recent vmware or install that master server with older os
[12:14] <moddexx> Guys, i have not been able to config my microphoe in ubuntu
[12:14] <moddexx> i have acer aspire
[12:14] <indus> uzi_: its still good oss
[12:14] <kane77> I have problems with flash. On 32-bit it works OK, but on 64-bit I am sometimes unable to click on buttons (such as pause video etc) other times it work OK.. Anyone else experience the same thing? I did a clean install of firefox with new profile and it didn't help
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> kane77: ive seen people ask this a lot
[12:15] <indus> uzi_: with all the pulseaudio stuff and alsa , oss is a great fallback system
[12:15] <ward-> how can i setup 2 different x screens with my nvidia card?
[12:15] <indus> kane77: its a bug i have too, full screen i assume
[12:15] <ward-> it cannot savce the soncifg to xorg.xonf
[12:15] <ward-> CONFIG
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> ward-: its in nvidia-settings
[12:15] <ward-> ActionParsnip, yes but it cannot save
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> ward-: run: gksudo nvidia-settings
[12:16] <indus> ward-: gksu nvidia-settings
[12:16] <ward-> ActionParsnip, yes same problem
[12:16] <indus> seconded
[12:16] <oliver3> uzi_, I was talking about OSS version FOUR, not OSS version THREE. OSSv4 is alive and kicking, and one HELL of a lot better than ALSA. ALSA is a bloody mess, if it would work properly I wouldn't be using OSS in the first place.
[12:16] <BezNalogov> Hello people. I'd like to know if I can put some 'tag' in a .desktop file at the exec line like for example /home/$user/.nx/config/myconfig.nxs
[12:16] <Caesi> exit
[12:16] <kane77> indus, also in small video (regular video on youtube and other vide sites).
[12:16] <ward-> ActionParsnip, failed to parse is the error
[12:16] <indus> kane77: its a flash/firefox issue
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> ward-: you may have to run: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[12:16] <BezNalogov> The purpose is that where I wrote $user the username will flexible appear
[12:16] <indus> kane77: very hopeless i know
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> ward-: then run: gksudo nvidia-settings
[12:16] <oliver3> !ossv4 | uzi_
[12:16] <oliver3> fine
[12:16] <oliver3> screw you ubottu
[12:16] <ward-> ActionParsnip, also what if i then get my laptop to somewhere where the screen is not there
[12:17] <oliver3> !oss
[12:17] <FloodBot2> oliver3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:17] <indus> kane77: all you can do is wait a few seconds for controls like pause etc to work
[12:17] <oliver3> !OpenSound
[12:17] <ward-> ActionParsnip, will it just revert to one screen then?
[12:17]  * oliver3 sighs
[12:17] <indus> !info alsa-oss
[12:17] <kane77> indus, is it related to x64 or not? because it does not happen on x86 ubuntu
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> ward-: possibly but you will immediately run the config to get 2 screens
[12:17] <indus> kane77: well, not sure about that
[12:17] <simion314> i can't find a way to have sound in ubuntu 9.10, i tried alsamixer, any ideea ?
[12:17] <indus> simion314: try amixer
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> !sound | oliver3
[12:17] <LaireTM> Hello, i deleted some files on a extern drive, but i cant delete the file in the trash
[12:18] <indus> simion314: that is assuming your sound card is detected with aplay -l command
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> !trash | LaireTM
[12:18] <indus> !info oss
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> LaireTM: check in that folder
[12:18] <indus> bah
[12:18] <longtime> Hi, I was wondering if anyone would be able to offer any help for my problem. I recently installed a video game via Wine and am recieving what I think is video lag, but may also be related to my firewall. The game is older, circa 1999, and my computer's hardware is more than capable of running it at full tilt, but I'm still not sure what might be the problem causing the lag I'm seeing.
[12:18] <ward-> ActionParsnip, yeah i hate monistcreen in linux
[12:18] <indus> !opensoundsystem
[12:18] <ward-> multiscreen in linux
[12:18] <uzi_> !oss
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> ward-: i have  monitor for 3 PCs
[12:18] <ward-> why cant i typetoday?
[12:18] <uzi_> !isitout
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> ward-: 1 monitor
[12:19] <sebsebseb> longtime: Wine does not run all programs as well as Windows
[12:19] <sebsebseb> longtime: Wine can run many programs and quite well, but a lot of Windows apps won't  work at all, or will need some configuring and that's not that easy to do
[12:19] <uzi_> fuck you
[12:19] <ward-> ActionParsnip, well i like multiscreen its conveniant, im thinking i will just let is overwrite xorg.conf when i shutdown or reboot
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | longtime
[12:19] <ward-> allways back to one screen
[12:19] <LaireTM> ActionParsnip: I dont have this folder
[12:19] <frogzoo> understatement of the year
[12:19] <sebsebseb> !language |  uzi_
[12:19] <tparcina> Is there kernel-2.6.29 (or 30 or 31) for Ubuntu 9.04 server?
[12:19] <tparcina> If yes, on which repository?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> LaireTM: hmm not good
[12:20] <uzi_> ubottu: sorry man...
[12:20] <frogzoo> !koala
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> ward-: you need to generate an xorg.conf as karmicdoesnt have one by default but if one is present it will be used
[12:20] <Tartaros> when I try to end/kill a priviledged process using the gnome-system-monitor (started from the applet), it dies. Is that ok? :o
[12:20] <indus> uzi_: what is the problem you are having?
[12:20] <sebsebseb> !sorry |  uzi_
[12:20] <ward-> ActionParsnip, yeah i understand its doen
[12:20] <Gyro54> How do I remove the video drivers in 8.04?
[12:20] <longtime> Thanks for the info! I'll check out the Wine Application Db.
[12:20] <uzi_> indus: i'm just here to help
[12:20] <geomi> ActionParsnip: it appears Ubuntu's fdisk creates partitions at 63 sector offset or 31.5KiB - this is the worst possible way of creating partitions and should be considered a bug. i will file a bug report. Just FYI :)
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> ward-: so once you make one with sudo nvidia-xconfig   you can thenmanipulate it with gksudo nvidia-settings
[12:20] <elky> uzi_, you'll behave from now on? "/msg ubottu guidelines" will tell you how to do that.
[12:21] <moddexx> @ActionParsnip do you know abt the internal mic problem?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> geomi: nice
[12:21] <uzi_> elky: sorry, just testing the bot. It won't happen again
[12:21] <oliver3> !oss4
[12:21] <ward-> ActionParsnip, yeah i understand lol
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> moddexx: its about the sound cacrd which te mic is attatched to, as long as the card has the right driver and settings the mic will work
[12:21] <ward-> ActionParsnip, you happen to know how to restart x11 ?
[12:21] <indus> oliver3: i think you will need to install oss4 from the site
[12:21] <ward-> ctrl - alt backspace is not working anymore
[12:22] <ward-> used to use that
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> moddexx: if you run: sudo lshw -C sound   you will see the sound card and you can use the product line to find guides
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> ward-: alt+k+print screen
[12:22] <indus> alsa oss is best option
[12:22] <moddexx> @ActionParsnip thanks bro I will try that
[12:22] <oliver3> indus, I /have/ OSS4 installed. I just wanted to know if I could get the new control apps to work with it, especially the panel applet.
[12:22] <ward-> ActionParsnip, roflol
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> moddexx: you could also websearch the model of the laptop to see if there are guides specific o the model
[12:22] <oliver3> indus, I've had it since 9.04, upgraded to 9.10 today
[12:22] <simion314> indus, how to use amixer? a disabled Gnome login sound, this should not be the problem
[12:22] <ward-> ActionParsnip, ok thanx off to restart x
[12:22] <tparcina> kernel-image-2.6.29 or hier, for Ubuntu server 9.04, where can I find?
[12:22] <uzi_> wasn't oss deprecated from kernel some time ago? Didn't know about the new development
[12:23] <uzi_> tparcina: you can get from kernel.org