[00:03] <jarnos> TheSheep: End Process in System monitor did the job. Normally I can unmount the device without that.
[01:25] <Zeeded> Anyone here have experience with Dual-Screen on Xubuntu?
[01:49] <adude> can i use compiz with xubuntu?
[01:50] <Zeeded_> no clue
[01:52] <adude> does anyone have a clue?
[01:56] <TheSheep> !compiz
[01:56] <ubott2> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[02:03] <evil_tech> i have no window manager1
[02:04] <evil_tech> i installed ubuntu server and then added the xubuntu-desktop.
[02:04] <evil_tech> i get a normal xubuntu login screen then the heron wallpaper and a terminal but no window manager
[02:06] <evil_tech> apparently no one is in here
[02:06] <evil_tech> :(
[03:04] <owen1> how to enable beep sound in xfce4-terminal?
[03:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok, how do i install xubuntu on the alternate cd?
[03:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> i don't know any commands
[03:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i need a tutorial of some kind
[03:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> i need to resize my partitions
[03:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> and i dont' know if i should just format C with the partitioner
[03:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> start windows with the boot up disk
[03:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> or just stick in the xubuntu alternate cd and re-do the partitions
[03:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> which seem messed up
[03:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> help
[03:54] <tfnsn> i am downloading
[03:54] <tfnsn> now xubuntu via wubib
[03:54] <tfnsn> wha is the main differences of xubuntu?
[03:54] <tfnsn> what do i pay attention?
[04:04] <tale_of_tales> it doesnt have gui network browser by default
[04:08] <tfnsn> that mens
[04:08] <tfnsn> means
[04:08] <tfnsn> ?
[04:08] <tfnsn> firefox or other
[04:08] <tfnsn> or fileviewer
[04:09] <tale_of_tales> for network shares
[04:09] <tfnsn> can i install dolphin
[04:09] <tfnsn> or something like that
[04:09] <tfnsn> for network browsing
[04:09] <tfnsn> or samba
[04:09] <tfnsn> ?
[04:10] <tfnsn> samba works on it ?
[04:36] <genelyk> why if installed xubuntu in spanish ,  the about xubuntu , it's in english??
[05:51] <maloy> hello?
[05:51] <maloy> anybody home?
[08:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> help, someone just helped me install xubuntu after installing an old version of ubuntu, 5.10 to be specific, i am already on xubuntu and it's the first time i'm on it
[08:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> i've a few questions, first is
[08:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i move the bar whre the windows accumulate to the bottom of the screen
[08:05] <zoredache_> if your right click on the area you can choose move
[08:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> i tried that
[08:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> nothing shows up when i right click on the upper task bar
[08:07] <CostaRicanQuaker> i canmove the panel from the bototm
[08:07] <CostaRicanQuaker> but i can't seem to move the taskbar down
[08:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok
[08:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> i was able to move the taskbar down
[08:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> however the panel's now in the way
[08:12] <CostaRicanQuaker> what is the name of the shell emulator
[08:12] <CostaRicanQuaker> and how do i get rid of the gnome
[08:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> i'm looking at this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE
[08:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> but i don't know where i should type that in
[08:28] <Nicekiwi9> hiya =D
[08:29] <Nicekiwi9> how do i setup system proxy setting on Xubuntu 8.04?
[08:30] <Nicekiwi9> and how do i browse a home network?
[08:52] <TheSheep> Nicekiwi9: you set an environment variable
[08:52] <TheSheep> Nicekiwi9: thre is no gui
[08:53] <Nicekiwi9> how do i do that?
[08:53] <TheSheep> Nicekiwi9: what do you mean by "browse home network"?
[08:53] <Nicekiwi9> well how do i broswe a network?
[08:53] <Nicekiwi9> there is a fileserver on my home network, howdo i gain access ot it?
[08:54] <TheSheep> Nicekiwi9: what protocol does it use?
[08:54] <Nicekiwi9> http
[08:54] <Nicekiwi9> or well... im not sure what u mean
[08:54] <TheSheep> if it's http, then just use firefox
[08:54] <Nicekiwi9> its a linux server.. i assume its using samba
[08:54] <TheSheep> !smb
[08:55] <TheSheep> !fusesmb
[08:55] <TheSheep> :/
[08:55] <Nicekiwi9> yes samba is installed....
[08:55] <TheSheep> Nicekiwi9: you can use smbclient from the command line, or mount it using fusesmb, there should be howtos on the forum
[08:56] <Nicekiwi9> so theres no gui for browsing the network?
[08:56] <TheSheep> no, by default there is no gui for browsing Microsoft Windows network
[08:56] <TheSheep> there is in Ubuntu
[08:57] <Nicekiwi9> its not a MS network....
[08:57] <TheSheep> it is
[08:57] <Nicekiwi9> how so? :S
[08:57] <TheSheep> to set proxy, you can use the command: export http_proxy = http://exmaple.com:port
[08:58] <TheSheep> or you can put it in /etc/environ to have it always like that
[08:59] <Nicekiwi9> what do i do to the enviroment file?
[08:59] <Nicekiwi9> just add this? export http_proxy = http://exmaple.com:port
[09:00] <Nicekiwi9> with the appropriote IP
[09:00] <TheSheep> without the export
[09:00] <TheSheep> case is important
[09:01] <Nicekiwi9> howdo i open it with root clearance?
[09:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i put a shortcut on the desktop?
[09:09] <CostaRicanQuaker> i'm having trouble finding the number symbol
[09:09] <CostaRicanQuaker> and the at sign
[09:09] <CostaRicanQuaker> they don't even show in character map
[09:20] <Spaceghost> hi
[09:24] <Nicekiwi9> ?
[09:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i make a shortcut or add a folder to the desktop
[09:25] <CostaRicanQuaker> and how do i type the at sign and the number sign
[09:25] <CostaRicanQuaker> i can't even find them in the character map
[09:29] <CostaRicanQuaker> zoredache
[09:29] <CostaRicanQuaker> can you help me?
[09:45] <CostaRicanQuaker> DistroJockey: can you help me?
[09:45] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, installed, but not tried it yet :)
[09:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> well here's the deal, i can't type the at sign or the number sign or the tilde sign and i can't find them in the caharcter map
[09:46] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, was to create location on desktop right?
[09:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> that too
[09:47] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, ohh, and shift+7 etc. doesn't exist or work?
[09:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> shift + 7 =/
[09:47] <DistroJockey> @ = shift+2 for me
[09:48] <DistroJockey> # = shift+3
[09:48] <DistroJockey> ~ = shift+`
[09:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> nope
[09:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> is there a way to change my keyboard
[09:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> i think i isnstalled it to spanish
[09:49] <DistroJockey> yeah, not exactly sure how though
[09:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> how about to create a folder on my desktop?
[09:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> that is actuallyon my esktop i mean i already created a folder but it doesn't show on my desktop
[09:50] <DistroJockey> I'll switch to Xfce and take a look. Not tried it yet
[09:50] <DistroJockey> brb
[09:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> dorry about that
[09:54] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, well, first, I can change language at the login screen by changing the Options
[09:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> the language is english
[09:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> but the installation keyboard default
[09:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> was spain's
[09:56] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, I just created a created a Launcher on my desktop to go to my  /home/distro/Downloads folder
[09:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> how did oyu do that?
[09:57] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, right-clicked desktop and chose  Create Launcher  , called it Downloads  and entered  thunar /home/distro/Downloads   as the command
[09:59] <CostaRicanQuaker> i can't see the create launcher option
[09:59] <CostaRicanQuaker> you're also on xfce?
[09:59] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, right-click on your background wallpaper ?
[10:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes
[10:00] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, aye, I just installed xubuntu-desktop and logged into Xfce for the first time
[10:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> are you scottish?
[10:00] <DistroJockey> nope :)
[10:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> irish?
[10:00] <DistroJockey> nope :)
[10:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> cant see the option...where should it be
[10:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> the launcher
[10:01] <DistroJockey> maybe some ancestry but no, I'm Australian :)
[10:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> cool
[10:01] <DistroJockey> when I right click, it is the very top menu entry
[10:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> mine says run program
[10:02] <DistroJockey> well, that's not the default as far as I can see
[10:02] <CostaRicanQuaker> underneath it says file manager
[10:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> how come yours is different if we're on the same distro?
[10:04] <DistroJockey> I get:  Create Launcher... / Create URL Link... / Create Folder... / Create from Template  and  Desktop Settings...
[10:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i do that again? like do i have to go to the terminal?
[10:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> nd type something
[10:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> or
[10:04] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, can you post a pick of where you are right clicking?
[10:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> run program?
[10:04] <DistroJockey> pic^
[10:05] <DistroJockey> no, just right-click on your desktop wallpaper
[10:05] <DistroJockey> or desktop rather
[10:05] <DistroJockey> somewhere blank that has no icons or windows covering it
[10:05] <CostaRicanQuaker> and how do i get a pic
[10:05] <CostaRicanQuaker> and post it?
[10:06] <DistroJockey> no idea sorry, heh
[10:06] <DistroJockey> Print Scrn works in Gnome but not in Xfce it seems
[10:09] <CostaRicanQuaker> DistroJockey: what do you usually use?
[10:09] <CostaRicanQuaker> kde or gnome?
[10:09] <DistroJockey> gnome
[10:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> why do you use gnome over kde'
[10:10] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, cleaner, simpler (not that I need it simple) and kde 4 sux so far
[10:11] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, kde 3.5.9 is good and very configurable but, can be overkill
[10:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> what's wrong with kde 4?
[10:11] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, it ain't ready by a long way
[10:13] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, and if you are looking for something lite gnome is a better option IMHO
[10:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> would you use kde in a 2000 laptop?
[10:13] <DistroJockey> see above :)
[10:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> so thats a no
[10:14] <DistroJockey> xfce looks pretty good, but I am not used to it, only been using it for 10 mins :)
[10:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok so here's hte deal
[10:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> wheni go to file manager
[10:14] <DistroJockey> It will run, but probably slowly
[10:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> and click on desktop
[10:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> there's a fodler my stuff
[10:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> but how come there's not an icon for it
[10:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> on the desktop
[10:15] <DistroJockey> when I said right-click desktop I don't mean in a file manager
[10:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> i know, but the launcher option doesn't show up...like let me list what shows up when i right click on the desktop wallpaper
[10:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> run program, terminal, file manager
[10:16] <DistroJockey> hmm
[10:17] <DistroJockey> I just went into Thunar and made a new Folder in /home/distro/Desktop and that shows on the desktop fine
[10:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> can you help me get rid of xfce
[10:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> and install kde instead?
[10:20] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, the only thing I can suggest is to go into  Applications - Settings - Settings Manager and then go to Desktop and change the Behaviour
[10:21] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, sure, you can type in a terminal:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   (for KDE)  or   ubuntu-desktop   (for Gnome)
[10:23] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, I had a standard Ubuntu (Gnome) install and did a  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop   and here I am (after a logout and a change of Session :) )
[10:23] <CostaRicanQuaker> there installing kubuntu
[10:23] <DistroJockey> :)
[10:23] <CostaRicanQuaker> now i need your help
[10:23] <CostaRicanQuaker> to get rid of xubuntu
[10:23] <CostaRicanQuaker> and
[10:23] <DistroJockey> may need to ask question about that in #kubuntu ;)
[10:24] <DistroJockey> why remove it?
[10:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> because i'm not going to use
[10:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> it
[10:24] <lesshaste> I seem to have lost of all sound.. I don't get any errors just no sound
[10:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> the only reaosn why i was going to use it was because my girlfriends laptop
[10:24] <lesshaste> is there a main system volume setting I can check?.
[10:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> i was going to put xfce on hers as it's from around 2000 and i didnt wnat it to run too slow
[10:24] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, removing may break things, not sure though
[10:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> but its currently on xp so its better than current anyway
[10:25] <DistroJockey> lesshaste, maybe in a terminal:  alsamixer
[10:25] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, if it's running XP, Ubuntu or Kubuntu will be fine
[10:26] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, I can't see anything wrong there
[10:26] <CostaRicanQuaker> well i hear that, if it's an old laptop apparently xp is not good for it
[10:26] <CostaRicanQuaker> and she's already had trouble with it
[10:26] <CostaRicanQuaker> so might as well
[10:26] <DistroJockey> lesshaste, any  mm  's in the appropriate channels?
[10:27] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, KDE is closer to Windows in initial config, but Gnome is simpler and IMHO better
[10:27] <gynterk> hmm
[10:28] <microwaver> Hello, i'm having trouble using different sections. I've installed a Ubuntu, but on top of that I've installed the xubuntu-desktop environment. But when I want to use the xcfe sessions or xscript sessions I just get a plain black with an x as a cursos, nothing is happening,
[10:29] <CostaRicanQuaker> DistroJockey: someone just linked me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE
[10:29] <DistroJockey> microwaver, I just installed  xubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu install and it works fine so far
[10:30] <microwaver> DistroJockey, i've been using it the whole week (works better than the gnome looking at performance) and now it just doesn't work anymore.
[10:30] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, what is mm?
[10:30] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, that doesn't suit you if you started with Xubuntu
[10:30] <DistroJockey> lesshaste, muted
[10:30] <microwaver> DistroJockey, i've been rm'ing the .cache/sessions/ items, probably that caused the problems.
[10:30] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, not that i can see...
[10:30] <lesshaste> I am going to try something drastic
[10:30] <lesshaste> rebooting into windows :)
[10:31] <DistroJockey> lesshaste, Nooooo! ;) ok, if you must ;)
[10:31] <DistroJockey> microwaver, not familiar with that location and it's affects sorry
[10:32] <microwaver> any other reasons why my xubuntu environment won't be working,
[10:32] <DistroJockey> microwaver, been using Xfce for 20 mins and most of that time has been here in Xchat :)
[10:32] <microwaver> DistroJockey, ok then
[10:34] <DistroJockey> microwaver, ~/.cache/sessions  seems to be only for Thunar for me so far
[10:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> DistroJockey: i just asked how to get rid of xubuntu and all its packages, i will do that as soon as kubuntu's downloaded
[10:35] <microwaver> DistroJockey, there were 4 sessions in it. Thunar, 2 xcfe sessions and another thingy
[10:35] <microwaver> DistroJockey, I deleted them all :P
[10:35] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, k, good luck
[10:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> however
[10:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> i still need to make a partition
[10:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> to free up some space
[10:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> to reinstall windows
[10:36] <DistroJockey> microwaver, has to be a wider issue
[10:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> xp
[10:36] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, yeah, that partedmagic cd should do the job
[10:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> now to burn it
[10:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> what program do i use
[10:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> since you're also on xfce
[10:38] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, or if you can afford to lose Xubuntu, do a clean install of XP to the drive using only the space you need and install Kubuntu/Ubuntu to the remaining free/unpartitioned space
[10:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> no way
[10:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> i had to install ubuntu from an old old old cd
[10:38] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, in Applications - Multimedia  I have Brasero
[10:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> then withsomeone elsee's help
[10:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> i have graveman
[10:39] <DistroJockey> that should do the job
[10:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> but i don't see how to burn an image with it
[10:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> and i think the partitioner should be an image right
[10:39] <DistroJockey> yep, need to burn iso's as an image
[10:40] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker,  sudo apt-get install brasero
[10:40] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, should work fine
[10:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> it's still installing kubuntu though
[10:41] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, unless it askes you to get heaps of Gnome stuff
[10:41] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, you should get K3B with Kubuntu, if you don't, install it
[10:42] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, sudo apt-get install k3b     when kubuntu-desktop is done
[10:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> hmm
[10:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> i got a dos like screen
[10:42] <DistroJockey> any errors?
[10:43] <CostaRicanQuaker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24173/
[10:44] <DistroJockey> pick either Xfce or KDE as the default I guess
[10:44] <CostaRicanQuaker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24174/
[10:45] <DistroJockey> kdm = KDE  gdm = Gnome
[10:45] <DistroJockey> go kdm
[10:45] <DistroJockey> not sure why gdm is listed if you started with xubuntu though
[10:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> kdm
[10:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> well the reason's this
[10:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> i couldn't install xubuntu nor kubuntu
[10:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> both from the live and alternate cds
[10:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> that i had burned
[10:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> because htey were giving me errors
[10:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i tried an oldold ubuntu cd
[10:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> and from there upgraded
[10:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> and then got xubuntu
[10:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> and got rid of gnome
[10:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> which was still the login screen
[10:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> i did this with someone's help
[10:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey on one of these chatrooms
[10:47] <DistroJockey> I very much dislike upgrades
[10:47] <DistroJockey> things often break
[10:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> welli had no other option
[10:48] <DistroJockey> aye
[10:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> all of my cdrs weren't working
[10:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> even the one i got from a torrent
[10:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> which is suposed to be safe from corruption
[10:48] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, burn them at the slowest speed possible after checking the md5sum of the iso
[10:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> well i'm not doing this anymore
[10:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> i'm just going to keep kde
[10:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> and hopefully burn an image formy girl's laptop
[10:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> otherwise
[10:49] <DistroJockey> for future reference :)
[10:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> just do the same
[10:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok what was the command to get k3b again?
[10:50] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, if you can wait 4 weeks, request a CD from  shipit.ubuntu.com
[10:50] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, sudo apt-get install k3b
[10:51] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, btw: 8.04.1 will be released in 2/3 days
[10:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> it says it was already installed (ist aht good or bad?)
[10:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> and what was the command to get rid of xubuntu?
[10:51] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, that be good
[10:52] <DistroJockey> not sure on that one, but you could take a look at the following in a terminal:   sudo tasksel
[10:52] <DistroJockey> and use the spacebar to un * xubuntu desktop
[10:53] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, I'd burn your CD first though
[10:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> oh that's right
[10:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> oh wait
[10:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> i already deleted the xubuntu
[10:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> now what do id o?
[10:54] <DistroJockey> run k3b I guess
[10:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> oh wit
[10:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> i gotta log out
[10:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> and log back in right?
[10:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> brb
[10:55] <DistroJockey> may not need to, and might be better if you don't
[10:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> let me see
[10:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok
[10:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> opened k3b
[10:56] <DistroJockey> it's a nice program
[10:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok
[10:56] <DistroJockey> don't have it atm, so don't ask me how to use it ;P
[10:57] <DistroJockey> I guess I'll install kubuntu-desktop while I'm at it :)
[10:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok
[10:58] <DistroJockey> only 205MB to download :)
[10:59] <DistroJockey> I'll be done in 20 mins :)
[11:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> DistroJockey: do you know how to use partition magic?
[11:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> i basically need to use some of the space thats' free on the desk
[11:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> disk
[11:07] <CostaRicanQuaker> to use it for the ntsf windows partition
[11:07] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, nope, but I know how to use gparted
[11:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> link me to gparted for an iso file
[11:08] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, you want to try and install Windows in unpartitioned space that is not at the start of the disk?
[11:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> well thats' the thing
[11:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> it doesn't have that option
[11:08] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, I did earlier was called pertedmagic
[11:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> it shows only the nig partition and it says
[11:09] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, no, it's not possible
[11:09] <DistroJockey> partedmagic^
[11:09] <CostaRicanQuaker> well
[11:09] <CostaRicanQuaker> it says
[11:09] <CostaRicanQuaker> pmagic
[11:09] <CostaRicanQuaker> maybe you're right
[11:09] <CostaRicanQuaker> maybe i'm confusing it
[11:09] <CostaRicanQuaker> i jsut burned the iso for it
[11:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> now i need to create some free space
[11:10] <DistroJockey> partition magic is a non free software
[11:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> you were theone who linked me to parted magic right?
[11:10] <DistroJockey> Windows will want the free space to be at the start of the disk
[11:10] <DistroJockey> yep
[11:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> well the thing is it only shows two partitions when i boot up with windows xp cd
[11:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> one is
[11:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> the huge partition
[11:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> in which kubuntu is now
[11:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> and has the option of using that wholething
[11:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> and otherwise the swap
[11:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> so you tell me
[11:12] <DistroJockey> yeah, it won't be easy and may not even be possible
[11:12] <DistroJockey> It is usually better to install Windows first and then a buntu
[11:13] <DistroJockey> maybe google for:  how to install windows after installing ubuntu
[11:14] <DistroJockey> or do it the other way round
[11:15] <DistroJockey> here's the first link (maybe it can be of some help):  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=384355
[11:17] <CostaRicanQuaker> install windows, format partition then run gparted or partedmagic and make free space for ubuntu to reinstall it to upgrade to kubuntu again?
[11:18] <CostaRicanQuaker> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:18] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, no, when installing Windows, leave some unpartitioned space for buntu and it's swap
[11:19] <DistroJockey> then you won't need partedmagic
[11:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok so let me see if i get it correctly
[11:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> i go and install windows
[11:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> on the big partition
[11:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> formatting everything
[11:20] <CostaRicanQuaker> then i installubuntu again
[11:20] <CostaRicanQuaker> and you promise you will help me
[11:20] <CostaRicanQuaker> upgrade to kubuntu again
[11:20] <microwaver> aren't you supposed to find a xcfe section on the usr ?
[11:20] <DistroJockey> well, not quite. When installing Windows, tell it to delete all partitions and then tell it to create a space for itself that is smaller than the drive's size
[11:21] <CostaRicanQuaker> oh like 60 gb ntsf only?
[11:21] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, yeah
[11:21] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, then you should have unpartitioned space that buntu can use happily
[11:22] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok wait for me here man i'll brb
[11:23] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, I have a beer left, I'll be here :)
[11:30] <microwaver> Hello aren't you supposed to find the different gui packs on the usr map?  like /usr/share/gnome can't seem to find the xcfe one
[11:32] <DistroJockey> microwaver, how about  /usr/share/xfce4
[11:34] <microwaver> DistroJockey, yup is there. thanks. strange thing is, WHY WON'T IT FRIGGIN LOAD :p
[11:34] <DistroJockey> microwaver, what are you trying to do?
[11:34] <microwaver> trying to load xubuntu :)
[11:34] <DistroJockey> microwaver, ohh, right
[11:35] <microwaver> how do I remove gnome completeley :p
[11:35] <DistroJockey> microwaver, there is also  /usr/share/xfwm4
[11:36] <DistroJockey> microwaver, not sure, never done it. But I do like the tasksel tool:  sudo tasksel
[11:36] <microwaver> DistroJockey, does it deinstall as well?
[11:36] <microwaver> (handy thing)
[11:36] <DistroJockey> microwaver, I guess you hit space to un * ubuntu desktop
[11:36] <DistroJockey> microwaver, should
[11:37] <microwaver> DistroJockey, none of the ubuntu things are checked ?
[11:37] <DistroJockey> microwaver, it may not do a complete removal though
[11:37] <microwaver> DistroJockey, only xubuntu is checked, tho I'm using gnome atm
[11:38] <DistroJockey> microwaver, then I guess tasksel is not all knowing
[11:39] <DistroJockey> microwaver, do you get a terminal if you do a  Alt
[11:39] <DistroJockey> sec
[11:39] <DistroJockey> Alt+F2 and type gnome-terminal
[11:39] <microwaver> yes
[11:39] <DistroJockey> sorry, I hit enter instead of shift :)
[11:39] <DistroJockey> well, that sure does sound like gnome :)
[11:40] <microwaver> what's the command to open the xcfe terminal
[11:40] <microwaver> xcfe-terminal?
[11:40] <DistroJockey> not sure how to get rid of it though sorry, never wanted/needed to
[11:41] <DistroJockey> nah, that does'nt even work in Xfce :)
[11:41] <microwaver> hrmz
[11:42] <microwaver> xfce4-terminal
[11:42] <microwaver> that does the job , and works as well..
[11:42] <DistroJockey> aye :)
[11:43] <microwaver> but why won't xcfe as a session wont load :p
[11:43] <microwaver> not really in the mood for completely reinstalling kubuntu
[11:43] <microwaver> xubuntu*
[11:44] <DistroJockey> not too sure, I was on a clean Ubuntu install. I installed xubuntu-desktop, logged out and selected an Xfce session
[11:44] <DistroJockey> all fine
[11:44] <DistroJockey> maybe a: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-desktop
[11:44] <DistroJockey> ?
[11:48] <microwaver> i'm relogging
[11:48] <microwaver> :p brbr
[11:48] <microwaver> reboot ftw
[11:48] <DistroJockey> :)
[11:52] <microwaver> voila, that seems better.
[11:52] <microwaver> are you experiencing slow scrolling in firefox3
[11:53] <DistroJockey> microwaver, cool
[11:53] <DistroJockey> microwaver, nope
[11:53] <microwaver> so it works totally smooth?
[11:54] <DistroJockey> yeah, with an ati card and xorg drivers
[11:54] <microwaver> well, you're having a similar config to me
[11:54] <microwaver> so you're not using the restricted ones?
[11:55] <DistroJockey> microwaver, nope
[11:55] <microwaver> EXPLAIN ME HOW :p
[11:55] <microwaver> what ati card do you have?
[11:56] <DistroJockey> get 2800 FPS in glxgears on a 9600 pro
[11:56] <microwaver> that seems to be a heavy card
[11:57] <microwaver> don't really know what ati card is in this vostro 1000
[11:57] <DistroJockey> ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AR [Radeon 9600]
[11:57] <DistroJockey> it's ancien
[11:57] <DistroJockey> ancient^
[11:57] <microwaver> hmmm
[11:57] <microwaver> lshw is the command to go right?
[11:58] <DistroJockey> sudo lspci -v
[11:58] <DistroJockey> or just  lspci
[11:58] <microwaver>  ATI Technologies Inc RS482 [Radeon Xpress 200] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[11:59] <microwaver> don't really think that's better, or is it?
[11:59] <DistroJockey> microwaver, what age to you put it at roughly?
[12:00] <microwaver> the laptop isn't a half year old :P
[12:00] <microwaver> :p
[12:00] <DistroJockey> microwaver, then it should be way better
[12:00] <microwaver> but this laptop (company's) is a super duper low budget one
[12:01] <microwaver> so tell me, did you follow a guide or something to use what driver
[12:01] <DistroJockey> http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonxpress200Intel/specs.html
[12:01] <DistroJockey> look about right? ^
[12:01] <microwaver> don't have an intel chipset, it's AMD Mobile Sempron
[12:02] <DistroJockey> http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_14603_14616,00.html
[12:02] <microwaver> that's the card yeah, but that's not the xorg driver :p
[12:03] <DistroJockey> microwaver, may be too new for a decent xorg driver
[12:03] <DistroJockey> go with the amd/ati provided one if you need and can
[12:03] <microwaver> so the restricted one
[12:04] <DistroJockey> yeah
[12:04] <DistroJockey> make a backup of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf  first
[12:07] <microwaver> done.
[12:07] <microwaver> now just enable the restricted driver?
[12:07] <microwaver> brb reboot,
[12:08] <DistroJockey> yeah, a ctrl+alt+backspace  may work, but reboot will for sure
[12:08] <DistroJockey> snap
[12:26] <DistroJockey> microwaver, any luck?
[12:27] <microwaver> DistroJockey, after disabling the restricted driver and restarting, hideaus
[12:27] <microwaver> hideous
[12:27] <microwaver> saw 4 mouse pointers and all
[12:28] <DistroJockey> microwaver, yuck, no wonder I stick with xorg drivers :)
[12:29] <microwaver> erh
[12:29] <microwaver> that was when NOT using restricted driver
[12:29] <DistroJockey> hmm
[12:30] <DistroJockey> microwaver, may I see a pastebin of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please?
[12:32] <microwaver> DistroJockey, of course
[12:32] <microwaver> !pastebin
[12:33] <DistroJockey> you can:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[12:33] <microwaver> In terminal?
[12:34] <DistroJockey> yep
[12:36] <DistroJockey> microwaver, mine is at:  http://pastebin.com/f3585e0a7
[12:36] <microwaver> http://pastebin.com/f267394f8
[12:37] <DistroJockey> microwaver, Gusty?
[12:37] <DistroJockey> 7.10^
[12:38] <microwaver> no.
[12:38] <microwaver> 8.04. why you ask?
[12:38] <RainCT> Hi
[12:39] <RainCT> is gnome-panel installed by default on Xubuntu?
[12:39] <DistroJockey> microwaver, xorg.conf looks too busy
[12:39] <DistroJockey> RainCT, doubt it
[12:39] <microwaver> define too busy
[12:39] <microwaver> :p
[12:39] <DistroJockey> microwaver, compare with the one I pasted of my current
[12:40] <DistroJockey> http://pastebin.com/f3585e0a7
[12:40] <microwaver> DistroJockey, you're right, but eh. lot's of doubles in it you mean?
[12:40] <DistroJockey> microwaver, you upgraded didn't you?
[12:42] <microwaver> DistroJockey, Yes i did. not a clean ubuntu 8.04 install, but a 7.10 . Then upgrade than xub
[12:43] <DistroJockey> microwaver, you could try changing  fglrx  to radeon  and possibly get rid of the last 2 sections (Module and Extensions)  Make a backup if you havn't
[12:43] <RainCT> DistroJockey: thx
[12:44] <DistroJockey> RainCT, no problem. Any particular reason you ask?
[12:44] <microwaver> DistroJockey, got a backup ;)
[12:44] <DistroJockey> microwaver, :)
[12:46] <RainCT> DistroJockey: yes, there's an app (AWN) that crashes if you don't have gnome-panel installed when you try to add a customized launcher to it, and I want to know if this is likely to be a problem for Xubuntu users
[12:46] <DistroJockey> RainCT, ahh
[12:47] <DistroJockey> RainCT, well, I had a base clean install of Ubuntu that I added xubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop to tonight to help some people
[12:48] <DistroJockey> RainCT, so I have gnome-panel by default
[12:50] <DistroJockey> RainCT, and no, I'm not going to remove it ;)
[12:50] <RainCT> DistroJockey: hahah. don't worry :)
[12:51] <microwaver> DistroJockey, adjust xorg.conf and then disbale the restricted driver
[12:51] <DistroJockey> microwaver, you could just try the fglrx to radeon change first, then if that is no good get rid of those last 2 sections
[12:53] <DistroJockey> microwaver, btw: for some reason my FPS in now averaging 5700
[12:53] <DistroJockey> is now^
[12:54] <microwaver> DistroJockey, what's the command to check that again?
[12:54] <DistroJockey> microwaver, in a terminal:  glxgears
[12:54] <DistroJockey> microwaver, don't resize the window
[12:55] <DistroJockey> microwaver, and as they say "glxgears is not a benchmarking utility" :)
[12:55] <DistroJockey> microwaver, but it is handy :)
[12:55] <microwaver> lol
[12:55] <microwaver> 712 frames in 5.0 seconds = 142.228 FPS
[12:55] <microwaver> 660 frames in 5.1 seconds = 129.534 FPS
[12:55] <microwaver> 556 frames in 5.2 seconds = 105.989 FPS
[12:56] <DistroJockey> microwaver, let it sit for a bit with no activity, but it's not looking good
[13:02] <ClawEEE> hello guys
[13:03] <DistroJockey> hi ClawEEE
[13:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> hey
[13:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i do to get the repos for ubuntu
[13:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> if i-m on 5.10
[13:06] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, you could try a:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:07] <CostaRicanQuaker> i gotta run i will talkt o you later bye thanks for your help
[13:07] <DistroJockey> CostaRicanQuaker, but as they said in #kubuntu you can't go straight from 5.10 to 8.04
[13:07] <DistroJockey> snap
[13:13] <microwaver> DistroJockey, it doesn't work at all on the xorg.conf
[13:13] <DistroJockey> microwaver, any better?
[13:13] <DistroJockey> :(
[13:14] <DistroJockey> microwaver, tried the following yet?:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[13:15] <microwaver> DistroJockey, the slwo fps could also be due to the fact that I'm using compiz(-fusion)
[13:15] <microwaver> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[13:15] <microwaver>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080701141527
[13:15] <microwaver>  few that's normal
[13:15] <DistroJockey> microwaver, nah, it's a misconfiguration. I run compiz fine
[13:16] <DistroJockey> microwaver, not in Xfce though :)
[13:17] <DistroJockey> microwaver, get 2800 FPS average in Xfce. Probably similar in Gnome with cube and the rest
[13:20] <DistroJockey> microwaver, btw: the reason my FPS went to 5700 was due to the fact that I covered or closed the gears window :)
[13:22] <microwaver> aha :p
[13:22] <microwaver> DistroJockey, misconfiguration
[13:24] <DistroJockey> microwaver, something wrong with your xorg.conf somewhere I'm thinking
[13:25] <microwaver> I did the command you told me teo completely reconfigure it. going to disable the hardware driver
[13:25] <DistroJockey> microwaver, ahh, k
[13:26] <DistroJockey> microwaver, have seen many people that have upgraded have issues like this. And sound issues.
[13:26] <microwaver> sound doesn't seem to be a problem
[13:27] <DistroJockey> microwaver, good :)
[13:29] <DistroJockey> microwaver, I'm sorry I can't help further. I've never actually had any of the issues you are having, but many have (I just can't think anymore, need sleep)
[13:30] <DistroJockey> microwaver, good luck
[13:30]  * DistroJockey waves
[13:33] <homebrewcider> hey there, just need a bit of help getting mt FAt32 windows/linux common drive writeable, it's mounted at /media/FAT32, I can read it, but it's the fstab I need help with
[14:10] <homebrewcider> hey there, can anybody help me with my fstab please? i have a fat32 partition on sda6, I have mounted at /media/FAT32, I need to get it writeable please, can someone help me please
[14:34] <kwhk> hello
[14:37] <kwhk> i'm running xubuntu 7.10 on my thinkpad 600e, PII 300 MHz, with 228.8M Ram.  i'm wondering whether i should upgrade to 8.04.  can any one give some advice?
[14:39] <kwhk> will that slow down my machine materially?
[16:30] <EverettGMartin> wow we got more people in this room today
[16:36] <EverettGMartin> ok so can someone answer my question, everything that cant be found in gui on xubuntu can be accessed by terminal right?
[16:41] <th0r> nope...not everything
[16:49] <EverettGMartin> ah well i couldnt access the audio tuner so i remember going to terminal and typing alsamixer
[16:50] <th0r> you can do that, but not EVERYTHING is available. I hav elooked high and low, never did find the ultimate answer
[16:50] <EverettGMartin> yea
[16:51] <EverettGMartin> well, i wish more people were on the xubuntu channel, compared to the ubuntu channel 2000 people n stuff
[17:04] <th0r> yeah, but you can get answers here...and don't have to listening to all the whining
[17:05] <migm> but whhhhhyyy
[17:10] <skinnymg1> hello
[17:11] <skinnymg1> need a suggestion for an app to read samba files
[17:11] <zoredache> skinnymg1: fusesmb
[17:11] <skinnymg1> thnx
[17:11] <th0r> unless, of course, it is the samba config files you need to read.
[17:12] <migm> in which case, use your eyes
[17:12] <th0r> or swat
[17:12] <migm> seriously
[17:12] <migm> just use your eyes
[17:12] <migm> they're not that hard
[18:16] <MOUNIR> hey, it is possible to run xubuntu from ram? (boot from usb key)
[18:17] <th0r> if you can get the computer to boot from the usb it should be possible.
[18:17] <MOUNIR> how much ram I need?
[18:18] <evil_tech> ping
[18:18] <th0r> the blurbs say 64MB to install xfce, but I would expect to need at least 192 to run as you are suggesting
[18:19] <MOUNIR> thanks
[18:23] <Valsum> I'd use alternate instead of live cd for it to be faster ;)
[18:40] <evil_tech> i have no window manager or panel! help
[18:54] <evil_tech> anyone here
[18:54] <evil_tech> well now i got a panel but no window manager...hmmm
[19:18] <skinnymg1> does anyone know why after an update emerald would quit working
[19:21] <evil_tech> what is the command to manually start the window manager
[19:22] <evil_tech> ?
[19:22] <TheSheep> xfwm4
[19:23] <evil_tech> ah
[19:27] <evil_tech> so what do i need to fix so i dont have to manually start xfce4-panel and xfwm4 everytime i reboot?
[19:48] <th0r> evil_tech, do you get a display manager screen when you start up...a login screen?
[19:51] <evil_tech> th0r: i get the normal xubuntu login then after i log in the heron ubuntu wallpaper shows up along with a terminal window but no windows manager or panel
[19:52] <th0r> evil_tech, on the login screen, do you have the option to change the default window manager? It is usually called 'Sessions' in gdm
[19:53] <th0r> evil_tech, it sounds like you might be defaulting to twm, if you choose to login in to xfce from the Sessions menu it should prompt if you want that to be your default for future logins
[19:55] <evil_tech> ok i am going to log out and see
[19:58] <evil_tech> th0r: that was it
[19:58] <th0r> evil_tech, I have my moments
[20:03] <skinnymg1> i fixed the emerald problem just reinstalled it and its fine now
[22:05] <yesitisjustme> s it possible for a internet provider to block like other computers on your house like a laptop and only allow desktop to connect to internet?
[22:09] <Genelyk> mmm
[22:11] <proprietarysucks> having a bit of trouble with connecting remote desktop in xfce
[22:11] <proprietarysucks> 'remote desktop viewer', this is for connecting to rdp right?
[22:13] <yesitisjustme> does the modem have to be cycled when changing computer?
[22:14] <proprietarysucks> also I'm experiencing a disturbing problem with my xubuntu machine
[22:14] <proprietarysucks> if I plug my tilt into it, I lose internet connectivity
[22:16] <gaurdro> yesitisjustme, could you explain further?
[22:16] <TheSheep> yesitisjustme: yes, he can detect the hardware address of your network card (MAC). you can however configure your home computer to relay the network connection to other computers, or temporarily fake the hardware address
[22:16] <TheSheep> yesitisjustme: but it's pretty advanced
[22:17] <gaurdro> proprietarysucks,  what port does your tilt plug into?  i'm not sure what a tilt is.
[22:18] <proprietarysucks> http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?device=AT%26T+Tilt(TM)&q_sku=sku1060009
[22:18] <proprietarysucks> usb
[22:19] <proprietarysucks> if you are an expert I can elaborate the effects further
[22:20] <gaurdro> I'm wondering if it's not picking up your phone as a modem.  and more information is always a good thing when troubleshooting
[22:20] <proprietarysucks> alright you asked for it
[22:21] <proprietarysucks> 1. in windows vista, when you plug this in, it comes up as a block device
[22:21] <proprietarysucks> 2. if you go into the phone and start the connection sharing, then vista suddenly sees a network device
[22:22] <proprietarysucks> in fedora, when I plug it in, neither is seen apparently
[22:22] <proprietarysucks> but I leave it plugged in just to charge it
[22:22] <proprietarysucks> however in xubuntu, the second i plug it in my connectivity is lost
[22:23] <proprietarysucks> it shows up as eth1 and has an ip address
[22:23] <proprietarysucks> and interestingly, this is what I've discovered
[22:23] <gaurdro> xubuntu is seeing the phone as  a modem.
[22:23] <gaurdro> do you normally connect via wireless?
[22:23] <proprietarysucks> with it plugged in, when I ping my gateway, ping shows the 'from' ip address as mine. however when I ping my dns server it shows the from address as the tilt's ip address (!) even when I ping -I eth0
[22:24] <proprietarysucks> no I normally use wired eth0 with static
[22:24] <gaurdro> do you have the network manager added to the panel.  I don't remember if it defaults on or not.
[22:24] <yesitisjustme> i thought to cycle a modem you just had to turn it off for a while and the back on
[22:25] <proprietarysucks> gaurdro: it does and I do
[22:25] <gaurdro> does it give more than one option for connection with the phone plugged in?
[22:26] <proprietarysucks> does it give more than one option for connection
[22:26] <proprietarysucks> let me think about that
[22:26] <yesitisjustme> ya i has a connector for phone line and a bigger connector for ethernet build in the laptop
[22:27] <proprietarysucks> when I click on manual configuration it shows eth0 and eth1 when it's plugged in, along with a point to point
[22:27] <proprietarysucks> normally, as in now, it shows eth0 and point to point only
[22:27] <yesitisjustme> plus i even tried a pcmcia card wich makes a nosie when it gets detected on boot and dongle cable lights up
[22:27] <proprietarysucks> but as far as the little text box which comes up and has a dot in wired network, no it stays with only wired network
[22:27] <yesitisjustme> but when try to browse it wont
[22:28] <yesitisjustme> and there is like activity in the modem the lights
[22:29] <gaurdro> proprietarysucks, try  running   'ifconfig eth1 down'
[22:30] <proprietarysucks> I tried doing that and it said no configuration for eth1
[22:30] <proprietarysucks> ifdown eth1 actually
[22:32] <gaurdro> you might have to do it as root.
[22:37] <proprietarysucks> i just say sudo before everything
[22:37] <proprietarysucks> since ubuntu is rediculous about that ;-p
[22:37] <proprietarysucks> sudo ls ; sudo seq 1 10 ; sudo ls -al
[22:38] <proprietarysucks> anyone know how to connect to remote desktop with xfce ?
[23:11] <jvin248> I happened to be working on this a couple of days ago (8.04 client machine, 7.10 server)... For remote desktop you'll need to install on the server 'vino' and run 'vino-preferences' (or add to menu) and have launched '/usr/lib/vino/vino-server' (or add into autolaunch menu).  Client you should just need the Remote Desktop menu item (installed in 8.04 default I think).  It seems to work across the LAN, though I want to get it working across WAN next.
[23:21] <zoredache> it isn't a really good idea to use VNC over the internet...
[23:22] <zoredache> it would be better to build an SSH tunnel (try gstm) and then connect via the tunnel
[23:27] <jvin248> thanks for the tip on gstm... Quick look it seems good.  I'll have to do some experimenting.
[23:35] <psyke83> hi, quick question - does Xubuntu 8.04 come installed with PulseAudio?


[01:39] <damjan> whats the logic behind "stop on ..." in task jobs ?
[01:51] <ion> It will be stopped on such events.
[02:00] <damjan> ion: but a task  runs very shortly and that's it
[02:20] <ion> There’s no limit on how long a task can run.
[03:08] <damjan> hm interesting, when I "telinit S" the shell I invoke the command is not killed
[03:09] <damjan> *at .. is not killed
[03:10] <damjan> and I do have "stop on runlevel [S106]" in the agetty job file
[06:55] <tclineks> can i get upstart to log stdout
[06:57] <tclineks> not available yet?
[06:59] <mbiebl> tclineks: add "console output" to you job file
[07:00] <tclineks> it sounded like that wasn't what I wanted, reading http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Stanzas
[07:00] <tclineks> but i'll give that a shot
[07:00] <mbiebl> tclineks: you mean log to syslog?
[07:00] <mbiebl> or log file?
[07:00] <tclineks> mbiebl: anywhere, that would be great
[07:01] <tclineks> console output, tailing /var/log logs, no output
[07:01] <mbiebl> no, that's currently disabled
[07:01] <tclineks> so i lose stdout, no way around that?
[07:02] <mbiebl> yes
[07:04] <tclineks> :/
[07:04] <tclineks> thanks
[17:29] <ion> Hi Keybuk
[17:29] <Keybuk> hey
[17:31] <ion> As you might have noticed, i put the mountall patch to bzr and made a merge request. :-) https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ion/ubuntu/karmic/mountall/fsck-locking/+merge/12289
[17:31] <Keybuk> I sw
[17:31] <Keybuk> I'm not ignoring your patch
[17:32] <Keybuk> I just had some critical bugs to fix first
[17:32] <Keybuk> did that upload last night
[17:32] <Keybuk> next is merging your patch, and adding fsck progress notification
[17:34] <ion> I’m sorry if i appeared demanding. That was not my intent. I understand there are more critical issues. :-)
[17:43] <ion> How’s the Free World? :-)
[17:51] <Keybuk> heh, that's ok :p
[17:51] <Keybuk> things are good
[18:13] <ion> Ah, i just realized LPC is happening right now. No wonder you’re visiting the Free World. :-)
[18:17] <Keybuk> indeed
[18:17] <Keybuk> LinuxCon earlier this week, and now LPC
[18:26] <Keybuk> hey Casey
[18:27] <ion> Hi sadmac


[12:10] <kbrooks> ping :-)
[12:10] <LaserJock> ping who?
[12:10] <kbrooks> LaserJock:
[12:11] <kbrooks> can i talk about easyubuntu iin here for a quick moment, mdke?
[12:12] <LaserJock> it's a lot quiter in here than #ubuntu ;-)
[12:12] <mdke> kbrooks: is it related to documentation?
[12:12] <kbrooks> LaserJock: #easyubuntu
[12:13] <mdke> that sounds more sensible
[12:57] <jsgotangco> GOOOOOOOOOOODDDDD MORNIIIIIINGGGGGGGGGGG DOCCCCCCCCC TEAAAAAMMMMMMMM
[12:57] <mdke> morning there
[12:57] <mdke> in a good mood eh?
[12:58] <jsgotangco> its actually 7am
[12:58] <Burgwork> hey jsgotangco
[12:58] <Burgwork> I am question to ask you, but now I forgot it
[12:59] <jsgotangco> hmm??
[12:59] <jsgotangco> would scrollback help?
[12:59] <jsgotangco> i still have an hour to spare before i do some real work
[12:59] <Burgwork> nope
[01:00] <jsgotangco> hmm..
[01:00] <jsgotangco> reading scrollback, if mdke doesn't mind ditching is profession, he'd sure make a good employee for canonical
[01:01] <mdke> this is the difficulty
[01:01] <mdke> I'd have to move profession, what would my new profession be?
[01:01] <jsgotangco> doc writer?
[01:01] <jsgotangco> heh
[01:01] <Burgwork> Documentation Team Manager
[01:01] <jsgotangco> JaneW just resigned just in case you didn't know
[01:02] <mdke> jsgotangco: shame about that. is she ok?
[01:02] <jsgotangco> she has a blog about it
[01:02] <mdke> url?
[01:03] <jsgotangco> although it would be expected that you do more for sure (and probably have more than 1 team role)
[01:04] <mdke> well, I'd like to do something with locoteams. But I mean, what would my long term profession be? If I left them, what would I do
[01:05] <jsgotangco> http://janewsblog.blogspot.com/2006/05/so-im-leaving-not-getting-on-jet-plane.html
[01:05] <jsgotangco> mdke: yeah, that's the dilemna
[01:05] <LaserJock> well, whatever it was you could get away with INAL ;-)
[01:05] <LaserJock> IANAL I mean
[01:05] <jsgotangco> lol
[01:08] <mdke> so sounds like Mr JaneW is going to be getting involved maybe
[01:08] <LaserJock> yeah, I thought that was interesting
[01:09] <mdke> uhoh
[01:09] <mdke> the beginning of the end
[01:10] <jsgotangco> hrmm
[01:10] <jsgotangco> who is bill baker?
[01:10] <Burgwork> no idea
[01:10] <Burgwork> but he apparently works for Canonical
[01:11] <Burgwork> Bill Baker, Baker Communications Group, LLC (for OpenVZ)<PHONE_NUMBER>
[01:11] <jsgotangco> ahh
[01:12] <Burgwork> appears to do corporate communications for several Open Source and technologies groups/companies
[01:12] <jsgotangco> wow good thing the orange text in the website got ditched
[01:12] <jsgotangco> i almost fainted when i saw it
[01:12] <mdke> wasn't so bad, I don't think
[01:13] <jsgotangco> ?
[01:13] <jsgotangco> *it was*
[01:13] <jsgotangco> it ate 1/4 of the browser space
[01:13] <mdke> a little big maybe
[01:17] <mdke> the same could be said of the cheesy images :)
[01:17] <LaserJock> mdke: is the help.u.c wiki going to be the community docs tab
[01:18] <jsgotangco> yeah i love the support guy image its sooo generic
[01:18] <jsgotangco> it fits the bill exactly for a typical call center agent here
[01:18] <mdke> LaserJock: that's the idea yeah
[01:19] <LaserJock> k
[01:20] <mdke> Karl didn't have time to do the move today, hopefully he'll do it tomorrow
[01:25] <mdke> so who is doing the SoC stuff, was it JaneW before?
[01:31] <jsgotangco> yes
[01:31] <jsgotangco> im not sure who's going to handle it after
[01:33] <mdke> bummer
[01:33] <jsgotangco> she ain't going to paris either
[02:36] <Madpilot> hi LaserJock
[02:36] <LaserJock> hi Madpilot
[02:36] <LaserJock> how's the job going?
[02:36] <Madpilot> Jobs are (both) going OK. Computer isn't...
[02:37] <LaserJock> you've got 2 jobs?
[02:37] <Madpilot> dist-upgrade to Dapper has f*cked the thing up
[02:37] <Madpilot> yeah, one part-time and one basically casual
[02:37] <LaserJock> hehe, that's why I dist-upgraded in Dec.
[02:38] <Madpilot> heh. I had a few issues going from Hoary->Breezy, but Breezy-Dapper has broken damn near everything.
[02:38] <Madpilot> No internet, no sound, no auto-mounting of CDs - all stuff that works flawlessly before
[02:38] <LaserJock> dang
[02:38] <LaserJock> did you use the update manager?
[02:38] <Madpilot> I'm using a Xubuntu LiveCD right now
[02:38] <Madpilot> yeah, the shiny new GUI thing
[02:39] <Madpilot> the trouble seems to be the k7 kernel
[02:41] <LaserJock> really
[02:41] <LaserJock> I end up just using -386 just cause I don't want to mess with it
[02:41] <Madpilot> possibly, although Corey has very similar hardware, the k7 kernel, and has no trouble from Dapper
[02:41] <LaserJock> weird
[02:42] <Madpilot> and I ran all the Dapper Flight LiveCDs up to Beta, all with no trouble...
[02:42] <LaserJock> double weird
[02:42] <Madpilot> yeah.
[02:43] <LaserJock> Burgwork: you around?
[02:43] <Madpilot> thankfully, all my partitions are all intact - no data lost
[02:43] <LaserJock> yeah, the livecd ate mine
[02:46] <Madpilot> installing off the LiveCD?  No sound card either, and I tried both the Dapper & Breezy kernels I've got installed
[02:48] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: wht do you mean?
[02:49] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: you might have to reinstall
[02:49] <Burgundavia> we seperated your /home, no?
[02:49] <Madpilot> yes
[02:49] <Madpilot> nice seperate partition, thank Dog.
[02:49] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: I got an email from somebody today saying that they would be my "major contact" and asked if I had any questions :-)
[02:49] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: whom?
[02:50] <LaserJock> Jay Lee
[02:50] <Burgundavia> ah, yes, Jay
[02:50] <Madpilot> LaserJock: you a librarian?
[02:50] <LaserJock> I just thought it was interesting
[02:50] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: no, just did some work for Userful
[02:51] <LaserJock> Madpilot: librarian? i worked a summer in the uni library. I'm a chemist
[02:52] <Madpilot> just wondering, given that Userful only does library work so far
[02:52] <LaserJock> that summer I did work at the uni library I was the technology person
[02:52] <LaserJock> Madpilot: ah, I didn't know that. I just did a little freelancing ;-)
[02:53] <Burgundavia> the fruits of which should be seen soon
[02:53] <Madpilot> Burgundavia: "Userfulbuntu"?
[02:54] <Burgundavia> not quite
[02:54] <crimsun> it's only cool if it has ponies!
[02:54] <Burgundavia> it might have a few
[02:55] <jsgotangco> no lots! or else my daughter would scream
[02:55] <jsgotangco> she has been brainwashed by ubuntu already
[02:55] <Burgundavia> bloody hell! I sell the ponies. I don't make them
[02:55] <crimsun> tehehe
[02:56] <crimsun> LaserJock: ok, this might help: http://cyclotram.blogspot.com/2006/05/omg-ponies-lol.html
[02:57] <Lathiat> mdke: am now :)
[02:57] <crimsun> or if you happened across /. on april fools
[02:57] <LaserJock> I did see the /. on april fools
[02:57] <crimsun> or if you know about young girls and their ponies, like in charlie and the chocolate factory
[02:58] <LaserJock> ah, see I grew up with mostly boys
[02:58] <LaserJock> not a lot of girls around my house
[03:00] <Madpilot> "a demented, post-apocalyptic My Little Pony." - from crimsun's article... :)
[03:04] <Madpilot> Burgundavia: could you pull down the Dapper install ISO & burn it for me?
[03:04] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: yep, can do
[03:05] <Madpilot> thanks. even with 1Gb of RAM, I'm not sure that pulling down an entire ISO is wise while I'm stuck on a LiveCD :P
[03:05] <crimsun> oh geez.
[03:05] <crimsun>  POE::Knee is a homophone of "Pony".  We all like ponies. And wouldn't we
[03:05] <crimsun>  love to race ponies? Well, that's what Acme::POE::Knee is for!
[03:05] <crimsun> (libacme-poe-knee-perl)
[03:05] <Madpilot> crimsun: please tell me you're joking about those file names... ;)
[03:07] <Burgundavia> anybody got an rsync line for the latest dapper?
[03:08] <LaserJock> Lathiat: you are totally missing time zones I guess
[03:29] <Lathiat> LaserJock: yeh
[03:30] <Lathiat> LaserJock: mdke messaged me at 5:01am
[03:30] <Lathiat> :)
[03:30] <Lathiat> i was faastt asleep :)
[03:30] <Lathiat> mdke: perhaps you could email me instead :)
[04:09] <Burgundavia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecentChanges?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=%22apt-get+install%22&fullsearch=Text <-- 489 results
[04:09] <Burgundavia> I am depressed
[04:14] <LaserJock> hmm, quite a few  of those are translated pages it seems
[04:14] <Burgundavia> yep
[04:16] <LaserJock> hmm, I didn't get any for "aptitude install"
[04:17] <Burgundavia> I assume you did text?
[04:18] <LaserJock> oh heck, I accidently did title
[04:18] <LaserJock> stupid me
[04:18] <Burgundavia> yep, hence why I asked
[04:18] <LaserJock> I got 33
[04:20] <LaserJock> personally I'm getting sick of wiki.u.c
[04:21] <LaserJock> there is waaaay too much stuff and much of it is crap
[04:21] <Burgundavia> yep
[04:21] <LaserJock> I guess it is better to have to much than to little, to some extent
[04:22] <Burgundavia> there are a lot of topic to cover
[04:24] <LaserJock> I guess it is mostly the huge range of quality and randomness that gets me
[04:26] <Madpilot> the duplication is fun too - when you realize that a single topic has three seperate & conflicting howtos...
[04:27] <LaserJock> you really have to have teams that look after subject areas or something
[04:27] <Burgundavia> I redirect yet another broadcom howto and the author emailed me
[04:27] <Burgundavia> he said "uhh, where is my stuff?
[04:27] <LaserJock> and you said, "in the darkest reaches of hell"?
[04:28] <crimsun> we really need a "zomg ponies" page.
[04:28] <Burgundavia> crimsun: do it!
[04:28] <crimsun> "sorry, but your page has been found wanting. Please see zomgPonies instead."
[04:28] <LaserJock> lol
[04:31] <Madpilot> it would have to be "ZomgPonies" to get the wiki's CamelCase working ;)
[04:33] <LaserJock> man, XP sucks when it comes to printing
[04:33] <Burgundavia> yep
[04:33] <Burgundavia> no cups ipp support, afaics
[04:34] <LaserJock> it doesn't have a lot for drivers either
[07:20] <LaserJock> crimsun: you running opera right now?
[07:22] <crimsun> LaserJock: nope, IE, the horror
[07:22] <robotgeek> the ietab firefox extension is cool
[07:22] <LaserJock> crimsun: dang, I just went to help.ubuntu.com/6.06 and the tabs are all messsed up
[07:23] <LaserJock> but that is in XP
[07:24] <LaserJock> I know, I know
[07:24] <LaserJock> I gotta get this thing resized and dualbooting before Paris
[07:46] <onkarshinde> rob: there?
[07:49] <onkarshinde> I wanted to discuss some changes to RestrictedFormats wiki page. Is anybody interested?
[07:51] <LaserJock> onkarshinde: you should email the ubuntu-doc mailing list
[08:56] <jsgotangco> hmm
[08:56] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco: ?
[08:56] <jsgotangco> will help.ubuntu.com get updated to reflect the doc.ubuntu.com docs?
[08:57] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco: the move has not yet been done
[08:58] <jsgotangco> hmm it means we're actually moving servers?
[08:58] <jsgotangco> or just redirecting?
[08:58] <Burgundavia> no, the content has not yet been moved
[09:00] <jsgotangco> would be nice to have at least the page changed for now, it still has breezy docs, but it can wait i guess
[09:00] <Burgundavia> which page
[09:00] <Burgundavia> ?
[09:01] <jsgotangco> help.ubuntu.com
[09:01] <Burgundavia> sorry, tired, I am not following you
[09:01] <Burgundavia> better speak to mdke
[09:02] <jsgotangco> Burgundavia: http://help.ubuntu.com still shows 5.10 docs in HTML and our dapper start pages refer to it
[09:02] <mdke> jsgotangco: not much I can do, I'm afraid
[09:03] <jsgotangco> its not a big issue, i just noticed it
[09:03] <mdke> I don't want to put up the 6.06 docs because they have the community tab which points at the non-existent wiki
[09:03] <jsgotangco> why not remove the tab for now?
[09:03] <mdke> karl should be doing the move today, then it will be sorted
[09:03] <jsgotangco> crap idea?
[09:03] <jsgotangco> ahhh
[09:04] <mdke> jsgotangco: because that would mean rebuilding all the docs, it would take me a while
[09:04] <jsgotangco> no worries like i said, its not a big issue
[09:04] <mdke> you're right though, I just don't have time, and hopefully it will be sorted today
[09:08] <bhuvan> mdke: i wish to print ubuntu t.shirts and distribute it locally. should i get permission from someone to do this ?
[09:08] <mdke> awesome
[09:09] <jsgotangco> you will have to ask silbs about it though
[09:09] <mdke> bhuvan: I don't think you need permission, but it wouldn't hurt to ask anyway, just in case. Also, Simira has done this before, maybe she can help with the templates
[09:09] <jsgotangco> or marilize
[09:09] <jsgotangco> but i don't think its really an issue
[09:10] <jsgotangco> we printed a hundred shirts down south before
[09:10] <bhuvan> jsgotangco, cool!
[09:11] <bhuvan> mdke, i am looking into Arwork/Official wiki page and got a logo (UbuntuStrapLogo.eps)
[09:11] <Madpilot> jsgotangco: got a link to the -newsletter logo?
[09:13] <jsgotangco> look for the ubuntu-newsletter LP team
[09:13] <jsgotangco> its really really tiny and mgalvin as the original
[09:13] <jsgotangco> but since we now have 4 ditributions it was natural to make a frankenstein logo out of it
[09:14] <highvoltage> hehe
[09:14] <Madpilot> looks like all four logos, one in each quarter of a circle?
[09:15] <jsgotangco> yeah with the mouse
[09:15] <jsgotangco> don't forget the mouse!
[09:16] <Madpilot> I'm running Xubuntu right now, I haven't forgotten the mouse :)
[09:20] <jsgotangco> err where is the xubuntu iso in se.releases?
[09:22] <Madpilot> no idea, I'm running a Xubuntu Beta2 LiveCD - dist-upgrade to Dapper borked my main install :|
[09:23] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco: xubuntu has not been rolled yet, due to an LTSP bug
[09:23] <jsgotangco> ahhh
[09:23] <Madpilot> I thought LTSP was mostly an Edubuntu thing?
[09:24] <Burgundavia> yep, but due to asking, Xubuntu is going to have LTSP as an option on the install cd
[09:24] <Madpilot> cool
[09:24] <Burgundavia> that was what broke
[09:24] <Madpilot> makes sense for the older hardware a lot of schools (even in wealthy countries) have around
[09:24] <highvoltage> Madpilot: edubuntu is probably it's most relevant use atm
[09:25] <highvoltage> Madpilot: but it's important across the range, Xubuntu also now has an LTSP automated install
[09:25] <highvoltage> xubuntu has been released :)
[09:25] <jsgotangco> where?
[09:25] <highvoltage> just a sec (me opens release announcement)
[09:26] <robitaille> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.06/release/
[09:26] <robitaille> according to the announcement
[09:26] <jsgotangco> cheers
[09:27] <highvoltage> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000084.html
[09:27] <jsgotangco> there's this small tea house that will get raided by 50+ people in brown shirts tomorrow
[09:28] <highvoltage> please take photos/videos :)
[09:29] <robitaille> and I'm sure these 50+ people will be speaking a very strange language, with all sort of strange code words like dapper and edgy :)
[09:29] <Madpilot> jsgotangco: dress code for your event is "wear brown"? Shouldn't orange be acceptable too, for Dapper?
[09:30] <jsgotangco> sure
[09:30] <jsgotangco> i plan to go in my best looking MSDN jacket
[10:57] <onkarshinde> What is mailing list for documentation?
[10:57] <pygi> ubuntu-doc
[10:57] <onkarshinde> I don't find it on this page http://www.ubuntu.com/community/lists
[10:59] <pygi> lists.ubuntu.com
[12:16] <glatzor> ping jsgotangco
[12:22] <glatzor> ping mdke
[12:33] <jsgotangco> hi
[12:33] <jsgotangco> glatzor: pong (im almost out though)
[12:34] <glatzor> jsgotangco: then go to bad. :) I've got problems with the build system, since I want to test my translation of the desktop guide
[12:34] <glatzor> bed
[12:34] <glatzor> /home/sebi/Desktop/%C3%9Cbersetzung/ubuntu/desktop-guide/desktopguide-de/getting-started.xml:311: parser error : Entity 'users-groups' not defined
[12:34] <glatzor> application>Users And Groups</application> application located in &users-groups;
[12:50] <mdke> glatzor: you shouldn't have any entitites, they are stripped out when building the pot file
[12:52] <mdke> check the pot file, that string isn't in there
[02:01] <glatzor> mdke: hi, the entities are not in the pot file, that is right. but xml2po doesn't merge my translations of the corresponding message that include a link
[02:51] <mdke> Burgwork: can you avoid moderating the email from me in the queue for ubuntu-doc... I didn't send it so I'm curious as to how it got there.
[02:51] <mdke> Burgwork: i'm gonna ask elmo or someone
[04:11] <Laser_away> mdke: ping?
[04:12] <mdke> Laser_away: pong
[04:13] <Laser_away> mdke: I checked out help.u.c/6.06 last night with opera on XP and it had some issues, did you know about that?
[04:13] <lastnode_> how do you include an image in the wiki?
[04:13] <lastnode_> syntax i mean?
[04:14] <mdke> lastnode_: HelpOnActions/AttachFile
[04:14] <lastnode_> thanks mdke
[04:14] <mdke> lastnode_: what are you working on out of interest?
[04:15] <lastnode_> mdke, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SriLankanTeam , im trying to flesh out our activities in order to seek approval at the next Community Council meeting
[04:15] <lastnode_> we're having a DRP :)
[04:15] <mdke> cool
[04:15] <mdke> DRP?
[04:15] <mdke> ah
[04:15] <mdke> ic
[04:15] <mdke> nice script
[04:16] <lastnode_> mdke, script?
[04:17] <mdke> script as in writing characters
[04:17] <lastnode> ah
[04:17] <lastnode> you see it?
[04:17] <lastnode> nice, it's sinhala
[04:17] <mdke> yeah
[04:18] <lastnode> im just trying to upload a beta logo :)
[04:35] <mdke> lastnode: whoops, I didn't reply. No, I didn't know about any issues
[04:35] <mdke> argh
[04:35] <mdke> Laser_away: ^^
[04:37] <lastnode> :)
[04:37] <lastnode> mdke needs a break from the screen, i think
[04:38] <lastnode> a break will you take
[04:38] <lastnode> brb
[04:38] <mdke> hehe
[04:45] <LaserJock> lastnode: he doesn't need a break, he needs to get to work ;-)
[04:49] <LaserJock> mdke: are you interested in opera problems at all?
[04:50] <mdke> LaserJock: is it a gap between the tabs and the page?
[04:50] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: but did it work with gdebi?
[04:50] <LaserJock> mdke: the tabs were all on the left and the tops of them had white
[04:50] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: it was Opera for XP ;-)
[04:50] <jsgotangco> wooooo
[04:50] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: I haven't tried gdebi yet
[04:51] <LaserJock> hehe
[04:51] <LaserJock> I did try the Edubunt livecd on that laptop though
[04:51] <mdke> LaserJock: Madpilot reported problems with all Ubuntu websites with opera. Was this just with ours?
[04:52] <LaserJock> hmm, I don't remember seeing it on www.u.c
[04:52] <LaserJock> but I just hit a couple sites to see what it looked like
[04:52] <jsgotangco> well in epiphany the ubuntu website's tabs doesn't jive well either
[04:54] <LaserJock> I'm at school now so I'll get Opera for OS X and see what it does
[05:00] <LaserJock> mdke: it is a different issue with help.u.c/6.06 than www.u.c with opera
[05:01] <LaserJock> mdke: help.u.c looks fine in OS X opera except the tabs are on the left instead of right side
[05:04] <mdke> LaserJock: if you have a fix... Otherwise I think I will leave it
[05:04] <LaserJock> hehe
[05:04] <LaserJock> you sound like a dev ;-)
[05:04] <mdke> you shouldn't be using these crazy browsers with crazy OSes
[05:05] <jsgotangco> that's right
[05:05] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: never argue with a lawyer :/
[05:06] <LaserJock> hehe
[05:06] <LaserJock> well, I just thought I would test it out
[05:06] <LaserJock> next stop, lynx :-)
[05:07] <jsgotangco> hey while you're at it, please install amaya as well an old version of mosaic :D
[05:07] <LaserJock> heh, lynx has saved my bacon more than once
[05:08] <jsgotangco> yeah
[05:09] <LaserJock> they need to make a CLI browser that actually does the layout and graphics with ASCII art :-)
[05:10] <jsgotangco> heh yeah like those geeky mplayer plugins that convert the movie to ascii
[05:10] <LaserJock> yeah
[05:10] <jsgotangco> those are sooo cool
[05:11] <jsgotangco> i installed skype and gdebi took care of the deps awesome
[05:16] <LaserJock> I have to say that gdebi could really change third party packaging
[05:21] <LaserJock> oh my gosh!! no wonder he has karma to the moon
[05:21] <jjesse> who?
[05:21] <LaserJock> seb128
[05:21] <LaserJock> https://launchpad.net/people/seb128/+assignedbugs
[05:21] <LaserJock> https://launchpad.net/people/seb128/+subscribedbugs
[05:22] <lastnode> mdke, ping
[05:23] <mdke> lastnode: yeah
[05:23] <lastnode> mdke, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SriLankanTeam , the logo, is it a trademark violation? it just occured to me
[05:23] <lastnode> i just looked at the Indian guys and thought id go for it
[05:23] <lastnode> didn't really strike me
[05:24] <mdke> oh by the way
[05:24] <mdke> hope you're not a cricket fan :p
[05:25] <lastnode> mdke, i was a fanatic, but after we pwned the world in 1996
[05:25] <lastnode> i stopped watching
[05:25] <lastnode> what more is there for a little island to do ;-)
[05:25] <jjesse> cricket that's like baseball right ?   :)
[05:25] <mdke> a bit
[05:25] <lastnode> jjesse, baseball is cricket's illegitimate son
[05:25] <mdke> lastnode: see the trademark page on the website, if in doubt email them to ask
[05:25] <jjesse> grin i'm being sarcastic i know what cricket is
[05:26] <lastnode> :)
[05:26] <lastnode> jjesse++
[05:26] <lastnode> mdke, should i pull the image till then?
[05:27] <LaserJock> people still play cricket? I thought that was phased out years ago, like rugby ;-)
[05:31] <lastnode_> ye gods! i have a karma of 16. can someone tell me how that happens?
[05:31] <LaserJock> what was it?
[05:31] <lastnode_> 0
[05:31] <LaserJock> \o/
[05:31] <lastnode_> dont people have to give you karma?
[05:32] <LaserJock> no
[05:32] <LaserJock> on your LP page there should be a link on the left that says Karma
[05:32] <jsgotangco> karma is your activity
[05:32] <lastnode_> oh i see
[05:33] <mdke> lastnode: nah
[05:33] <LaserJock> so you must have done something :-)
[05:33] <lastnode_> it's slow work because technical terms are really hard to turn in to english
[05:33] <lastnode_>
[05:33] <lastnode_> i just spelt my name
[05:33] <lastnode_> but even that's wrong
[05:33] <jjesse> wow
[05:33] <lastnode_> the last letter is a bastardized version
[05:33] <jjesse> what language?
[05:33] <lastnode_> it should be mahaNgu
[05:34] <lastnode_> jjesse, Sinhala
[05:34] <jsgotangco> nice
[05:34] <jsgotangco> how does my name look in that?
[05:34] <lastnode_> what's your name?
[05:35] <jsgotangco> jerome
[05:35] <lastnode_>
[05:35] <lastnode_> there is a font problem there
[05:35] <lastnode_> if you noticed
[05:35] <jsgotangco> yeah
[05:35] <lastnode_> >:(
[05:35] <jsgotangco> i notice it
[05:35] <jsgotangco> it doesn't make any sense to me though, it still looksl ike a bunch of small circles, sorry for that
[05:36] <jsgotangco> its neat though =)
[05:36] <lastnode> jsgotangco, it's 3000 years old
[05:36] <lastnode> the language i mean
[05:36] <lastnode> it's derivative of pali/sanskrit
[05:36] <jsgotangco> whoa
[05:37] <lastnode> it's phonetic too, so if you can speak, you can write
[05:37] <lastnode> well, in a nutshell
[05:37] <lastnode> brb, dinner
[05:37] <jsgotangco> whoa
[05:39] <lastnode> jsgotangco, dissecting jerome would look like this
[05:39] <lastnode>  is j
[05:40] <lastnode>  is jE
[05:40] <jsgotangco> are you using scim?
[05:40] <lastnode> jsgotangco, yeah
[05:40] <jjesse> can you write some docs on how to use it :)
[05:40] <lastnode>  is rrrr
[05:40] <lastnode>  is ro
[05:40] <jjesse> the kubuntu people are hurting for information on how to setup and run with scim
[05:40] <jsgotangco> very interesting...
[05:40] <lastnode> jjesse, yeah sure, but im using gnome
[05:40] <lastnode>  is M
[05:41] <lastnode>  is jeroME
[05:41] <lastnode> :)
[05:41] <jjesse> know anyone using kubuntu and scim that could do some documentation?
[05:41] <lastnode> ok im done
[05:41] <jsgotangco> who made those fonts?
[05:41] <lastnode> jsgotangco, im not even sure
[05:41] <lastnode> i prefer out LUG font
[05:41] <lastnode> *our
[05:41] <jsgotangco> im in irssi, i don't see a lot of difference...
[05:41] <jsgotangco> except some serif
[05:42] <lastnode> oh right
[05:42] <lastnode> yeah it's wierd
[05:42] <lastnode> hopefully the lk-lug font will ship with pango next time
[05:42] <lastnode> there were patches being made, last i know
[05:42] <lastnode> jjesse, id be happy to help with the scim docs though
[05:42] <lastnode> but isnt it sKim?
[05:43] <lastnode> for kde?
[05:43] <jsgotangco> yes
[05:43] <lastnode> hmm
[05:43] <lastnode> anyway finally dinner!
[05:43] <lastnode> brb
[05:43] <jsgotangco> ciao
[05:49] <lastnode> jsgotangco, back, eating
[05:50] <lastnode> back, eating
[05:51] <LaserJock> lastnode: where are the video's at?
[05:52] <lastnode> LaserJock, http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2005/debconf5/
[05:52] <lastnode> ive only downloaded a few
[05:53] <lastnode> already watched Mark's talk, which was nice
[05:53] <lastnode> and Anthony Towns'
[05:53] <lastnode> watching Brendon's one now
[05:54] <lastnode> mmm
[05:54] <lastnode> man pages
[05:57] <mdke> lastnode: are there videos for 2006, do you know?
[05:58] <lastnode> mdke, i have no clue
[05:59] <lastnode> er checked
[05:59] <lastnode> mdke, there is one
[05:59] <lastnode> http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2006/debconf6/debcamp/hacklab_2006-05-09.mp4
[06:01] <mdke> cool
[06:05] <lastnode> Seveas, was that your alter ego that logged in as DapperDrake this afternoon :)
[06:06] <Seveas> no
[06:07] <lastnode> it was you then?
[06:07] <lastnode> aha
[06:18] <lastnode> zomg manpages
[06:19] <jsgotangco> hey this isn't world of warcraft ;P
[06:20] <[Utah] tristanbob> there are a TON of wiki pages about Java - Do these need to be updated for 6.06?
[06:21] <mdke> yes
[06:21] <jsgotangco> very
[06:21] <mdke> but there shouldn't be a ton
[06:21] <mdke> there should ideally be one, and maybe subpages if necessary
[06:21] <jsgotangco> because now we just turn on mutliverse then apt-get
[06:21] <jsgotangco> but that's only for dapper
[06:21] <jsgotangco> it'll probably work for breezy as well
[06:22] <mdke> it does, if you specify the right packages. blackdown java packages are in breezy
[06:22] <jsgotangco> i meant sun-java
[06:23] <mdke> ah, that isn't in breezy
[06:29] <LaserJock> hmm, well that didn't exactly go the way I expected
[06:30] <mdke> haha
[06:30] <mdke> that'll teach you
[06:30] <LaserJock> well, I didn't really think he would have time for it
[06:30] <LaserJock> but I didn't think I'd be in charge
[06:30] <LaserJock> oh well
[06:31] <jsgotangco> lol
[06:31] <mdke> he's a nice guy
[06:31] <LaserJock> but Ian wrote like all the Debian devel docs so I'm a little nervous
[06:31] <jsgotangco> that's what you get for messing with the guy who created dpkg!
[06:31] <lastnode> jjesse, you were saying about scim/skim? where do i look
[06:32] <lastnode> murdock?
[06:33] <jsgotangco> lastnode: ian jackson
[06:33] <lastnode> oh ok
[06:34] <mdke> although Murdock in fact created dpkg, I believe that's right
[06:34] <LaserJock> he is also the current firefox dude
[06:35] <lastnode> yeah that's what im thought, but im likely to be mistaken
[06:35] <mdke> oh no, perhaps not
[06:36] <LaserJock> it is sort of creepy to look up some of the Ubuntu guys in the Debian site
[06:36] <jsgotangco> i believe he wrote most of the stuff that we use today
[06:36] <lastnode> "It was created by Ian Jackson in 1993."
[06:36] <lastnode> LaserJock, why?
[06:36] <jsgotangco> but the blueprints were from murdock
[06:37] <LaserJock> lastnode: well elmo for instance is the ftp master for both Debian and Ubuntu and generally manages to run large parts of both distros
[06:38] <lastnode> mmm
[06:38] <lastnode> elmo took over from towns?
[06:38] <jsgotangco> hmm looks like iwj wrote this in sgml
[06:38] <LaserJock> well, I don't know if he is *the* ftp master but he is one of 3 I think
[06:39] <LaserJock> I can't remember
[06:40] <lastnode> i see
[06:40] <LaserJock> mdz is/was heavily involved in Debian too I think
[06:41] <jsgotangco> yes
[06:41] <mdke> BenC was DPL
[06:41] <mdke> right?
[06:41] <LaserJock> I was just skimming through the Debian website looking for info
[06:41] <jsgotangco> i met mdz through the debian-arm project
[06:41] <lastnode> Ben Collins (April 2001  April 2002)
[06:41] <LaserJock> I'm not a debian user so I was amazed to see all these familar names
[06:41] <jsgotangco> i was still in openzaurus before
[06:42] <LaserJock> I can see where Debian could get a little "unhappy" about having a pretty sizable number of key players start working for Ubuntu
[06:42] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: there's also mvo
[06:43] <LaserJock> yeah
[06:43] <jsgotangco> even mako before
[06:43] <jsgotangco> and enricozini
[06:43] <jsgotangco> (he's here but must be busy so i didnt tab complete his name)
[06:43] <jsgotangco> daniels also
[06:44] <jsgotangco> actually its not that much
[06:44] <jsgotangco> but the impact of those guys in the upstream project is quite big
[06:44] <LaserJock> iwj is head of the Debian Technical Committee
[06:44] <mdke> seb does the gnome packages doesn't he
[06:44] <jsgotangco> i believe so
[06:45] <Burgwork> he works with the debian gnome team, yes
[06:45] <Burgwork> jdub used to run/work on Debian has well
[06:45] <lastnode> LaserJock, check out this video - http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/2005/debconf5/mpeg/2005-07-14/02-Ubuntu_Talk-Mark_Shuttleworth.mpeg
[06:45] <lastnode> sabdfl mentions many more names
[06:45] <lastnode> jdub was/is a gnome dev?
[06:46] <jsgotangco> jdub used to be the gnome release manager
[06:46] <lastnode> thar we go
[06:46] <jsgotangco> actually there are a lot of people in other projects
[06:46] <Burgwork> but when he did IT consulting, he built on Debian, hence the connection there
[06:46] <jsgotangco> like python for instance
[06:47] <jsgotangco> there's also lamont before
[06:48] <Burgwork> almost everybody canonical hired has about 8 different skills they can use
[06:49] <lastnode> :)
[06:49] <enrico> hi jsgotangco, LaserJock  :)
[06:49] <jsgotangco> enrico!
[06:49] <Burgwork> hey enrico
[06:49] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: perhaps
[06:49] <LaserJock> hi enrico
[06:49] <mdke> here is what we have for Lulu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MatthewEast/CompleteBookTranslations
[06:50] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: yeah i'll make sure I add, I flipped burgers and dipped onion rings for thousands of customers every month
[06:50] <mdke> mmmm
[06:51] <jsgotangco> those guys sure have lots of translation manpower to spare
[06:51] <mdke> there are a lot more finished now, those are just the finished ones we have in our repo
[06:51] <mdke> and I had to remove quite a few because I didn't know what font to use
[06:51] <jsgotangco> i wish i had dedicated people like them
[06:52] <mdke> czech, russian, polish all had some completed
[06:52] <jsgotangco> i live in a country where there is very little love of the local language
[06:52] <jsgotangco> especially in computer-based literature
[06:52] <robotgeek> awesome mdke !
[06:53] <LaserJock> well, at least the koreans and swedish users will have a good set of docs ;-) j/k
[06:53] <robotgeek> does anyone know how good translations are in our competing OS's
[06:53] <jsgotangco> where people laugh when they see about gnome in the local tounge and dismiss it as not useful
[06:54] <lastnode> robotgeek, for my language, it's virtually nill
[06:54] <Burgwork> jsgotangco, translation community can help spur the rest of the community (marketing, etc.) into ation
[06:55] <Burgwork> jsgotangco, we run intot he same issue in Canada
[06:55] <robotgeek> lastnode: sorry to hear.
[06:55] <jsgotangco> Burgwork: you're native english speakers :P
[06:55] <Burgwork> yep, hence no instant community
[06:55] <jsgotangco> that is the problem as well
[06:55] <lastnode> robotgeek, im just working on translating atm, actually :)
[06:55] <mdke> lastnode: you can change that!
[06:56] <lastnode> mdke, of course!
[06:56] <robotgeek> issue in India is that most people who have access to computers know english already, but i am glad to see translation efforts underway
[06:56] <jsgotangco> Burgwork: although Nokia has done some good work in localising
[06:56] <lastnode>
[06:56] <lastnode> mdke, that's your first name, right there!
[06:56] <lastnode> :P
[06:56] <lastnode> actually
[06:56] <jsgotangco> they look like roses
[06:56] <lastnode> ive anglo-saxonized it
[06:56] <lastnode> it should read
[06:56] <mdke> cool!
[06:57] <robotgeek> hmm, i can only see weird stuff. utf-8 issues :)
[06:57] <lastnode> robotgeek, you need the locale installed
[06:57] <lastnode> SI_utf8
[06:57] <robotgeek> lastnode: ah, okay
[06:58] <jsgotangco> Burgwork: but you have very little need to translate to en_CA, on my side we have tl_PH but people prefer en_US they are not even aware of en_PH
[06:58] <lastnode> hopefully ill have a few more to work with after sunday's DRP
[06:58] <Burgwork> yep
[06:59] <jsgotangco> me and jdub talked about it before and he informed me the mongols invaded gnome in 6 weeks
[06:59] <lastnode> wow
[06:59] <lastnode> respect to them
[06:59] <jsgotangco> yeah
[07:00] <lastnode> "Alpha Console Firmware"
[07:00] <lastnode> hth do i translate that
[07:00] <lastnode> xD
[07:00] <jsgotangco> you just remain it as is if you can't translate it
[07:01] <lastnode> yeah i know, but there should be translations
[07:01] <jsgotangco> sometimes you can't really
[07:01] <jsgotangco> like in my language, Desktop has an entirely different meaning
[07:02] <jsgotangco> when translated literally
[07:02] <lastnode> jsgotangco, for a translation to ship, how much has to be completed?
[07:02] <mdke> anything
[07:02] <jsgotangco> anything
[07:02] <jsgotangco> sometimes its not completed it gets shipped
[07:02] <jsgotangco> it doesn't look good though
[07:03] <jsgotangco> if you're tackling gnome, i'd still go for gnome cvs instead of rosetta
[07:03] <lastnode> mdke, even if one is translated it ships?
[07:03] <lastnode> i mean one block
[07:03] <jsgotangco> yes
[07:03] <lastnode> that's wierd
[07:04] <jsgotangco> whatever rosetta picks up
[07:04] <jsgotangco> then syncs
[07:04] <jsgotangco> all language packs are now processed
[07:04] <lastnode> oh right
[07:04] <lastnode> so we need to get these out before edgy
[07:04] <lastnode> :)
[07:04] <jsgotangco> (but if it doesn't feel free to ping rosetta)
[07:04] <mdke> lastnode: translate dapper, it will get monthly updates
[07:05] <jsgotangco> mdke: really?
[07:05] <lastnode> mdke, oh ok
[07:05] <lastnode> mdke, keyboard input doesnt work eyt with dapper
[07:05] <mdke> yeah, like previous releases
[07:05] <lastnode> i needed to apt-get a deb package for it
[07:05] <lastnode> a third party deb package at that
[07:05] <mdke> ah, definitely work with the developers for edgy on that
[07:05] <mdke> gtg
[07:06] <jsgotangco> mdke: is this only for ubuntu-docs or even applications translated in rosetta
[07:06] <mdke> jsgotangco: only applications translated in rosetta. for ubuntu-docs, it depends on how often I will do it
[07:06] <jsgotangco> hokayyy
[07:06] <jsgotangco> yes sir
[07:06] <lastnode> :)
[07:07] <mdke> cya
[07:10] <jsgotangco> okayy so edgy will be open in 3 days
[07:16] <jjesse> just saw that email
[07:18] <jsgotangco> good night
[09:17] <kermitX_> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installnvidiadriver  needs a little cleanup for dapper
[09:18] <Burgwork> kermitX_, that is the old breezy guide
[09:18] <jjesse> i don't think we releasd the start guide for dapper
[09:18] <Burgwork> starter guide is now desktop guide
[09:18] <jjesse> check out what the weather looks like outside: http://www.marshillruns.com/images/dsc01040.jpg
[09:19] <Burgwork> jjesse, cool. Where in the world are you again?
[09:19] <jjesse> grand rapids michigan, usa
[09:19] <kermitX_> the start guide is what's linked from help.ubuntu.com; perhaps labeling it as breezy and referring people to the new guide?
[09:19] <jjesse> severe thunderstorm watch right now
[09:19] <jjesse> help.ubuntu.com is getting updated
[09:20] <Burgwork> we are about move the new guides from doc.ubuntu.com to help.ubuntu.com
[09:20] <kermitX_> ahh. ok. and that would be where the installed system documentation comes from?
[09:20] <jjesse> correct
[09:20] <Burgwork> it is one and the same
[09:21] <jjesse> d.u.c is where it is for testng and moved to production at h.u.c
[09:21] <kermitX_> k. thx. just need to know where to refer ppl to.
[09:22] <kermitX_> good job, btw on the docs.. better than any other distribution i've ever used.
[10:28] <theCore> hi LaserJock
[10:29] <LaserJock> hi theCore
[10:29] <theCore> does the docs have been unlocked?
[10:30] <LaserJock> the docs have always been unlocked
[10:30] <LaserJock> we just branched Dapper docs, we can still work in ubuntu-docs just fine
[10:31] <theCore> ah, I thought the doc-team was refusing changes, because of the freeze
[10:31] <LaserJock> no
[10:32] <LaserJock> we just weren't making changes to the dapper branch
[10:32] <LaserJock> trunk is still ok
[10:34] <theCore> maybe, I could write something then
[10:34] <theCore> anyway, I want to do some packaging
[10:35] <LaserJock> great
[10:36] <theCore> maybe I should move to -motu
[10:37] <LaserJock> that's always a good place to hang out ;-)
[10:39] <crimsun> git checkout master
[10:39] <crimsun> fark, ewrongwindow
[10:41] <LaserJock> crimsun: lol, doing some kernel work?
[10:56] <crimsun> LaserJock: yeah, until I decided to give my fingers a "break" by attempting to "explain" stuff to neuRo]
[10:57] <crimsun> enough of that finger exercise :p
[10:57] <LaserJock> hehe
[10:58] <LaserJock> crimsun: I guess I'm taking over the Ubuntu Developer's Reference, you might get to do some more proofreading for edgy :-)
[10:58] <crimsun> oh dear :p
[10:59] <LaserJock> yep
[10:59] <LaserJock> that's what I said


[06:54] <OnkelTem> Hi
[06:54] <OnkelTem> How to report bug?
[06:54] <OnkelTem> https://launchpad.net/~apache-helpdesk/+archive/ubuntu/httpd-ppa/+packages
[06:54] <OnkelTem> I see NO any ways to report bugs
[06:55] <OnkelTem> Moreover, when I click "Bugs", there are no apropriate links
[06:57] <wgrant> OnkelTem: PPAs don't have bug trackers of their own. If the PPA description doesn't describe how to report bugs, contact the owner of the PPA.
[07:02] <OnkelTem> wgrant: ah, ok. Sent message to the PPA admin
[16:08] <Pali> cjwatson: hi, when will be there version 131?
[16:15] <cjwatson> Pali: I've pushed it to our staging repository; waiting for the builders to pick it up so I can do a final testing pass before asking our sysadmins to upgrade
[16:15] <Pali> ok


[14:33] <genupulas> hello
[14:33] <genupulas> keep getting the same error
[14:33] <genupulas> august@august-OEM:~$ bzr dh-make MPlayer 1.1 MPlayer-1.1.1.tar.xz
[14:33] <genupulas> bzr: ERROR: Either run the command from an existing branch of upstream, or move MPlayer aside and a new branch will be created there.
[14:33] <genupulas> how can i fix that ?
[14:40] <genupulas> august@august-OEM:~$ bzr dh-make MPlayer-1.1 MPlayer-1.1.1.tar.xz
[14:40] <genupulas> bzr: ERROR: command 'dh-make' requires argument TARBALL
[14:40] <genupulas> august@august-OEM:~$ bzr dh-make MPlayer1.1 MPlayer-1.1.1.tar.xz
[14:40] <genupulas> bzr: ERROR: command 'dh-make' requires argument TARBALL
[14:40] <genupulas> august@august-OEM:~$ bzr dh-make MPlayer-1.1 MPlayer-1.1.1.tar.xz
[14:40] <genupulas> bzr: ERROR: command 'dh-make' requires argument TARBALL
[14:43] <genupulas> ok sorry
[14:43] <genupulas> its solved. i have found it.
[15:06] <genupulas> dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2
[15:06] <genupulas> debuild: fatal error at line 1361:
[15:06] <genupulas> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -d -us -uc failed
[15:06] <genupulas> what I have to do ?
[15:06] <genupulas> dholbach:  ^^
[15:07] <dholbach> I'm in UDS sessions right now
[15:07] <cjwatson> you should put rather more of the failure in pastebin if you want anyone to be able to help
[15:07] <cjwatson> "debian/rules build gave error exit status 2" translates to "something went wrong earlier"
[15:07] <genupulas> ok thank you
[15:07] <dholbach> yes, use paste.ubuntu.com or something :)
[15:07] <dholbach> and post the link here
[15:15] <genupulas> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6453690/
[17:46] <TheLordOfTime> hmm... any idea why quilt will fail to find a file that is defined in a patch, even though that file exists?
[17:46] <tumbleweed> presumably there's more to it than that
[17:49] <TheLordOfTime> tumbleweed: this is everything i have here for it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6454421/
[17:49] <TheLordOfTime> when i do quilt import it "imports" the patch, when I do quilt push, it triggers that error and fails
[17:49] <TheLordOfTime> and the file *does* actually exist
[17:50] <jtaylor> thats a p0 patch
[17:50] <jtaylor> quilt uses p1 by default
[17:50] <TheLordOfTime> jtaylor: everyone should just use p1 patches then...
[17:50] <tumbleweed> yes, they should
[17:51] <TheLordOfTime> jtaylor: any way to convert it to p1 format, or would i be better off just manually going `quilt new patchfilename` then edit the file by hand to replicate the patch?
[17:51] <TheLordOfTime> (I've had to do that for other patches before...)
[17:51] <tumbleweed> TheLordOfTime: put a/ in front of the filenames
[17:51] <jtaylor> add a/ b/ in front
[17:51] <TheLordOfTime> there we go
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> jtaylor: tumbleweed:  thanks for the assist, i was wondering why it wasn't working, didn't realize the difference in patch formats >.>
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> (seriously, everyone should just use p1 instead of p0)
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> (then this makes life easier for everyone)
[17:53] <tumbleweed> unfortunately there are a zillion different patch formats
[17:53] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[18:04] <cjwatson> or quilt refresh -p1
[18:04] <cjwatson> (in fact I prefer -p ab)
[18:04] <TheLordOfTime> cjwatson: oh good you're alive.
[18:04] <cjwatson> you can put that in ~/.quiltrc
[18:04] <TheLordOfTime> cjwatson: i was gonna ping you earlier but i didn't want to make noise here
[18:05] <TheLordOfTime> cjwatson: what's the syntax to add that to quiltrc?
[18:05] <TheLordOfTime> also can i bug you to merge nginx 1.4.4 from Debian to Trusty, in order to fix some bugs that were fixed in Debian as well as two CVEs?
[18:05] <cjwatson> QUILT_REFRESH_ARGS="--no-timestamps -p ab"
[18:05] <TheLordOfTime> (since you were the last one to merge the package in)
[18:05] <cjwatson> is what I have
[18:06] <cjwatson> I'm not seeing a new nginx version in rmadison -u debian
[18:06] <TheLordOfTime> cjwatson: just uploaded today according to the debian system
[18:06] <TheLordOfTime> might not be published yet
[18:06] <cjwatson> right.  I'll merge it once it actually appears
[18:06] <cjwatson> but I'm on vacation tomorrow so it might be Monday instead
[18:06] <cjwatson> we'll see
[18:08] <TheLordOfTime> i'm sorry, just one CVE bug right now is listed as fixed...
[18:09] <TheLordOfTime> but it'll still close 1253691 with the merge.  (relevant debian bug 730012 reports "closed" by 1.4.4 which was only just uploaded today)
[18:09] <TheLordOfTime> s/closed/fixed/
[18:10] <TheLordOfTime> cjwatson: and no rush, unless the security team starts breathing down your neck :p
[18:10] <TheLordOfTime> i'm getting debdiffs made for P, Q, R, and S, though. so whenever :)
[19:12] <Noskcaj> Can someone please branch lp:~noskcaj/ubunu/trusty/cx-freeze/4.3.2 , check i did the dh-python2 changes right and fix the disabled patch please?
[19:13] <Noskcaj> oops, lp:~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/cx-freeze/4.3.2