[03:35] <bob2> haja: where did you get Boson from?
[03:35] <MustangMatt> sono: No idea, but how long is "extremely long"?
[03:35] <don824chan> longcat is loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong
[03:35] <kailer> bob2 was that a channel you were refering me too?
[03:35] <bob2> kailer: indeed
[03:35] <sono> thx MustangMatt, it is taking average 50 seconds to launch the app; thereafter performance is pretty neat.
[03:35] <haja> linuxgames.com I think... should I try synap?
[03:36] <sono> maybe one minute average MustangMatt.
[03:36] <MustangMatt> sono: 50 seconds does seem a bit long but I would say that's about average on my slower machines.
[03:36] <CookedGryphon> haja, have u tried synap for a package with libGL in it?
[03:37] <bob2> caonex: you need a new irc client
[03:37] <bob2> haja: yes
[03:37] <CookedGryphon> MustangMatt, sono, i've neverknown it to load in more than 20 seconds, even on my slow windows machine
[03:37] <haja> CookedGryphon, It comes up with a ton of stuff... not sure which to select lol
[03:37] <sono> I c MustangMatt.  Mine is a AMD64, where OpenOffice 1 loads in less than 10 seconds, that's why I am a little concerned.
[03:37] <kailer> no ones speaking even afteri post
[03:37] <caonex> bob2: hehehe because of the logging out?
[03:37] <don824chan> I wonder if I'd be able to play Warcraft 3 on Ubuntu
[03:37] <haja> bob2, How do I remove boson that I have already installed?
[03:38] <haja> I installed thru terminal
[03:38] <CookedGryphon> haja, well this int windows, it dunt load up every library it finds, if u hvae the hdd space install all of em :D
[03:38] <MustangMatt> CookedGryphon: It loads much faster on Windows than linux for me. I'm not sure if it's because of the starter app that's available for windows or what.
[03:38] <sono> It is right CookedGryphon. One minute seems to be a bug still to be solved.
[03:38] <bob2> caonex: yes, you must be using something old and broken like bitchx or mirc
[03:38] <bob2> haja: depends how you installed it
[03:38] <haja> CookedGryphon, lol... there are 72 packages
[03:38] <bob2> kailer: then you wait
[03:38] <caonex> bob2, i am using xchat hehe
[03:38] <alejandro> every thing it's diferent on linux, am lost, where can i found a manual boock
[03:38] <haja> bob2,  Ok?
[03:38] <CookedGryphon> haja, maybe not then
[03:38] <don824chan> I can't connect to freeciv.org and this makes me sad
[03:39] <haja> hehe CookedGryphon
[03:39] <bob2> alejandro: I hear "linux in a nutshell" is a good book
[03:39] <CookedGryphon> alejandro, if you need help with a specific command type man (command)
[03:39] <_smd_> !books
[03:39] <ubotu> I guess books is http://www.debian.org/doc/books - Debian, and http://www.nl.debian.org/doc/manuals/book-suggestions/ - Linux
[03:39] <sono> Maybe it is due to OO2 unstable version; I presume... I hope this gets better for the stable release; I was only looking for a workaround that I have not found online. CookedGryphon and MustangMatt.  Abiword, for its part, is crashing everytime I try to open an OpenDocument file.
[03:40] <CookedGryphon> weird, ah well, this is startign to do my head in, its late and i'm hungry, i'm goind to bed, nite all
[03:40] <sono> the prob is that I have not recreated the error precisely to file a bug on that for AbiWord
[03:41] <haja> night
[03:41] <haja> bob2,  I believe I did sh asds.run
[03:41] <alejandro> after a year try diferents lake, slackware, red hat and mandrake i do preaty well whit ubuntu but my windows way to use the computer make my sell weir
[03:42] <bob2> haja: then you'll have to ask the boson people
[03:42] <haja> on how to remove it?/
[03:42] <bob2> sono: have you filed a bug for both those issues?
[03:43] <bob2> haja: yes
[03:43] <haja> ok
[03:44] <sono> not yet bob2, for two reasons: it seems that the AbiWord crash happens when the files created have certain content tags within.  Could be tables or could be advanced formatted elements.  And I don't know if the OpenOffice2 long time loading can be recreated at any other Breezy 64 system.
[03:44] <ColonelKernel> jade.va.us.dal.net
[03:44] <ColonelKernel> damn xchat
[03:44] <sono> but, bob2, I will definetily file a bug on the latter as fast as I can.
[03:45] <ColonelKernel> if only there was an easy way to do diff channels in bitchx
[03:45] <bob2> sono: if it crashes, it's a bug; if yo ucould include the document in the bug report, that would be awesome
[03:45] <bob2> ColonelKernel: there is...called irssi-text
[03:45] <sono> great bob2, good idea!
[03:45] <ColonelKernel> bob2, arent bitchx and irssi pretty much the same thing
[03:45] <BSG75> if I install breezy previes can I upgrade to full version without having to wipe out my install?
[03:46] <sono> yes BSG75.. technicly you can.
[03:46] <bob2> ColonelKernel: no
[03:46] <bob2> BSG75: of course
[03:48] <don824chan> im trying to download freeciv off of an FTP site and it give me an error "550 Can't change directory to /freeciv/stable/freeciv-2.0.5.tar.gz: No such file or directory
[03:48] <BSG75> LOL .. well .. should I or should I not .. I don't want to have to wipe my system for 2.12 .. really it is a total dissapointment to me
[03:48] <bob2> BSG75: what is a "total dissapointment"?
[03:48] <pc1> hi can someone teach me how to do NFS step by step pls cos im new to linux and this ubuntu...please can someone?
[03:48] <BSG75> gnome 2.12 bob2
[03:48] <bob2> don824chan: then the url is wrong
[03:48] <BSG75> I was expecting much more from them
[03:48] <bob2> don824chan: also, freeciv is in ubuntu already
[03:48] <ColonelKernel> lol starsky and hutch disco battle
[03:48] <pc1> bob2 ur stil online =)
[03:48] <don824chan> oh???
[03:49] <don824chan> hmmm
[03:49] <SlicerDicer-> why does ubuntu x86 hate my K8 cpu?
[03:49] <SlicerDicer-> it runs like dogmeat on my K8
[03:49] <don824chan> bob2: where?
[03:49] <ColonelKernel> SlicerDicer-, athlonXP?
[03:49] <sono> BSG75: my experience when upgrading that way from Warty to Hoary, was that I had to manually dpkg-reconfigure some scripts and configuration files by the time of Hoary's final release, to achieve a system, as similar as I could to the Hoary's CD installation. (and I totally disagree... Gnome 2.12 is an interesting step further... less visible to some users maybe, but it is)
[03:49] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, Athlon XP is K7 :P
[03:49] <don824chan> Its not under Applications > Games
[03:49] <ColonelKernel> k8= sempron or amd64?
[03:49] <bob2> don824chan: did you install it?
[03:49] <don824chan> no
[03:49] <bob2> there you go then
[03:49] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, AMD64 yep
[03:49] <don824chan> k how do I install it
[03:50] <pc1> bob2
[03:50] <bob2> pc1: you need to hire someone
[03:50] <ColonelKernel> is there a 64 bit ubuntu distro?
[03:50] <Agrajag> yes
[03:50] <ColonelKernel> nice...
[03:50] <ColonelKernel> 64 bit ubuntu on a desktop
[03:50] <ColonelKernel> sorry a laptop
[03:50] <ColonelKernel> sounds SO nice
[03:50] <bob2> there are several
[03:50] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, yes but I wanted to use 32bit ohh well I guess I am using 64bit with force architecture lol
[03:50] <bob2> well, two
[03:50] <bob2> ia-64 and amd64
[03:50] <BSG75> sono: I agree to an extent with u on the 2.12 .. but I am really disspointed that's all .. prolly cause I love gnome and been using it a LONG bloody time
[03:50] <pc1> but no one here knows...even the technicians..cos im living here in mthe Philippines and all only knows WIndows
[03:50] <bob2> pc1: you can hire someone to set it up remotely
[03:50] <don824chan> bob2: how do I install freeciv if its already on the computer but not installed?
[03:51] <Deep6> guys where does ubuntu mount a usb key drive (I'm trying to help someone remotely over the phone recover files)
[03:51] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, I have been using AMD64 Gentoo since novemember the speed is very nice
[03:51] <sono> I have a 64 bits Ubuntu running at my laptop ColonelKernel, with WifI support.
[03:51] <ColonelKernel> SlicerDicer-, out of curiosity - why do people run 32 bit on a 64 bit system?
[03:51] <ColonelKernel> sono, that sounds like heaven.
[03:51] <bob2> don824chan: in what sense is it " already on the computer but not installed"? that makes no sense.
[03:51] <Agrajag> ColonelKernel: so they can run 32-bit binaries
[03:51] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, compatability :P
[03:51] <HrdwrBoB> ColonelKernel: so they can run the whole lot of binary software that's available
[03:51] <don824chan> bob2: thats what you said it was
[03:51] <ColonelKernel> those emachines 64 bit systems are going for a good price now im considering buying one with bill me later
[03:51] <bob2> don824chan: no I didn't
[03:51] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, the 32bit emul libs are only a halfass solution to manythings
[03:51] <bob2> don824chan: I said freeciv is in ubuntu
[03:52] <don824chan> bob2 don824chan: also, freeciv is in ubuntu already
[03:52] <sono> It was while Hoary stable ColonelKernel; I just upgraded to unstable Breezy which is a little daring.
[03:52] <bob2> don824chan: you don't have all 15 000 ubuntu packages installed by default
[03:52] <don824chan> bob2 don824chan: did you install it?
[03:52] <don824chan> k...
[03:52] <ColonelKernel> so 64 bit linux doesnt have some kind of 32 bit compatibility layer?
[03:52] <don824chan> so its on my CD
[03:52] <don824chan> right?
[03:52] <BSG75> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop for the rest of the DEs right?
[03:52] <jblack> colonelkernel: People might do that for a variety of reasons, including not having a 64 bit version and not wanting/able to compile a 64 bit version.
[03:52] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, sure it does but its not perfect
[03:52] <ColonelKernel> that wasnt perfect either
[03:52] <sono> I see, BSG75.  But let's expect the better from Gnome for next releases though.  Cairo inclusion will make a huge difference. believe me.
[03:52] <bob2> don824chan: no
[03:52] <jblack> Another reason is that some software is written with assumptions made on bitsize that will work in 32 bit but not 64 bit.
[03:53] <don824chan> bob2: than can you explain how I install it?
[03:53] <HrdwrBoB> ColonelKernel: yes but 16bit stuff SUCKED
[03:53] <pc1> dabar, can u help me how to network ubuntu PCs altogether?
[03:53] <ColonelKernel> jblack, thats a bummer.
[03:53] <BSG75> sono: that I agree with u on 100% :)
[03:53] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, yes but some people _need_ some apps and a AMD64 cpu is pretty cheap so why bother buying K7 anymore?
[03:53] <jblack> colonelkernel: Thats life for ya.
[03:53] <Deep6> or is there a way to get a root nautilus window to pop up?
[03:53] <theeil> anyone know of a good java ide?
[03:53] <bob2> don824chan: you've never used synaptic?
[03:53] <ColonelKernel> HrdwrBoB, im wondering if the difference between 64 and 32 is as drastic as it was between 16 and 32
[03:53] <don824chan> bob2: nope
[03:53] <bob2> don824chan: nevermind then
[03:53] <BSG75> I am happy to be able to customize my menues :P
[03:53] <BSG75> for now
[03:54] <Clujo> java ide: eclipse
[03:54] <don824chan> bob2: :( I still want to play freeciv
[03:54] <sono> ColonelKernel: There are a lot of work still to be done for a lot of 64 bits apps.  But I installed a 32bits fake root, which lets me run all the stuff that I need for daily work.
[03:54] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, try to install a 32bit package on AMD64... its a pain
[03:54] <paison> Is it possible to install Java Plugins for Firefox without browser shutting down??
[03:54] <jblack> don824chan: I used to lead freeciv development. I got so burned out during development that I can't stand playing any more. ;)
[03:54] <ColonelKernel> sono, I didnt think you could do such things just with user accounts
[03:54] <HrdwrBoB> jblack: haha the irony
[03:54] <BSG75> g'nite guys
[03:54] <ColonelKernel> or do you mean 32 bit fake root dir?
[03:54] <SlicerDicer-> ColonelKernel, chroot amd64 search for it :P
[03:55] <sono> ColonelKErnel: I use Cinelerra 64 bits for video editing. But it is totally not stable enough.
[03:55] <sono> Right SlicerDicer.
[03:55] <SlicerDicer-> well I am off to nuke the 32bit install and put 64bit back on argh
[03:55] <ColonelKernel> sono, cinelerra is the shizzy though - specially if you have a bunch of random computers sitting around you can use as nodes.
[03:55] <Epix> How do you take a hoary install and upgrade to breezy
[03:56] <sono> have you tried that ColonelKernel?
[03:56] <ColonelKernel> they dont have anything in windows that lets you do that
[03:56] <SlicerDicer> ColonelKernel: the 64bit is nice though
[03:56] <bob2> Epix: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[03:56] <Epix> thanks bob3
[03:56] <Epix> bob2*
[03:56] <ColonelKernel> sono, i've set up the clusters for it before but I didnt use the program, i watched someone else use the program, but on a 10ghz cluster it sure beats the pants off of adobe premiere
[03:56] <pc1> bob2 any other alternative?
[03:57] <Deep6> guys is there anyway to get a root nautilus window off the live cd?
[03:57] <pc1> please help me have mercy.. =P
[03:57] <jo_e> quick question: when will the new version of firefox be available in the repositories?
[03:57] <bob2> pc1: you can hire people to work on it remotely
[03:57] <pc1> i need to share these Ubuntu machines to each other
[03:57] <SymGeosis> Deep6, sudo nautilus --no-desktop
[03:57] <sono> Was it stable enough ColonelKernel? That could be a very interesting case study with Cinelerra clusters!
[03:57] <ColonelKernel> you dont have to wait all night for a project to render, if you get it set up in an office right you dont even have to move your projects to another computer to render
[03:57] <sono> Just beware multimedia guys, beware of ubuntu kernel and RealTime support for 64 bits.
[03:57] <pc1> but there is no one knows here in my place
[03:57] <bob2> pc1: then hire someone else
[03:58] <pc1> even someone else, none =(
[03:58] <bob2> jo_e: er, ubuntu has the letaest version of firefox
[03:58] <pc1> no one knows here about linux
[03:58] <bob2> pc1: hire me then
[03:58] <pc1> no one have tried
[03:58] <pc1> oh
[03:58] <pc1> hehehe
[03:58] <pc1> but ur quite far
[03:58] <sono> Ubuntu kernel is wonderful, but I have never succesfully patched it for REalTime operations.
[03:58] <pc1> what country?
[03:58] <jo_e> bob2, I still have 1.0.6
[03:58] <SymGeosis> bob2, he probably means the new beta.
[03:58] <ColonelKernel> sono, it worked fine w no problems, the person was still figuring out the interface a little bit but that said it gave you the ability to put together pro video presentations no problem and the cluster made the wait time a lot shorter
[03:58] <bob2> jo_e: which is the latest release
[03:58] <bob2> jo_e: oh, the beta? probably never.
[03:58] <pc1> i tot ur a member of wiki to help new users of ubuntu =(
[03:59] <don824chan> bob2: I found freeciv on Synaptic and am installing it now.  Thanks for your help /sarcasm
[03:59] <ColonelKernel> the problem is that video studios tend to not want their projects done on free software
[03:59] <jo_e> bob2, oh, I didn't know it was still beta
[03:59] <bob2> pc1: "tot" is not a word
[03:59] <pc1> tot = thought
[03:59] <ColonelKernel> but for an office it makes a lot of sense
[03:59] <robotgeek> :)
[03:59] <pc1> lol
[03:59] <bob2> don824chan: sorry, I feel really guilty about not investing yet more unpaid hours into helping someone read the wiki
[03:59] <Tidus> lol deer park beta1 is in my other boxes package manager
[03:59] <BSG75> sorry guys .. quick brain fart .. how do I turn off esd under gnome pls
[03:59] <sono> I am so impressed ColonelKernel.  I have worked short projects with Cinelerra, specially because of the unstable compilation I achieved on Ubuntu.
[03:59] <bob2> I'm not sure what "tot ur a member of wiki" is supposed to mean
[03:59] <bob2> BSG75: system -> preferences -> sound
[04:00] <ColonelKernel> sono, I didnt use ubuntu when I did it
[04:00] <pc1> i mean i thought your a member of wiki those who help new users of ubuntu
[04:00] <BSG75> thank you bob2
[04:00] <ksmurf> I'm in BIG poo-poo. I broke my wife's system upgrading to breezy.  She has a ATI 9000 AIW that's not working and nor is her DWL-G520 wireless card.  Will anyone help me?
[04:00] <pc1> like anybody else here
[04:00] <nfinitep1astik> ksmurf: ROFL
[04:00] <pc7> help
[04:00] <BSG75> ksmurf: I ahve the wifi working under my wife's .. I had to use ndiswrapper 1.1 .. if I remember right
[04:00] <SymGeosis> ksmurf, I'd recommend re-installing hoary. ;-)
[04:01] <bob2> pc1: you've been pointed at multiple pieces of documentation
[04:01] <ColonelKernel> i used fedora at the time, that was with fc1 and an openmosix cluster - I dont know if I could do it anymore b/c theres no openmosix for 2.6 and i've never messed with any other kind of clustering
[04:01] <bob2> pc1: you either didn't read them or didn't understand them
[04:01] <bob2> pc1: if the latter, you never explained what the issue was
[04:01] <ksmurf> I know the idea of me not getting any may be funny but I really don't like the idea
[04:01] <BSG75> ksmurf: I did it from scracth no dep packages
[04:01] <pc1> maybe...
[04:01] <bob2> now you're just being rude and irritating
[04:01] <ironuckles> How do I add include paths for g++? I want to use glib.h in a c++ file
[04:01] <BSG75> g'nite guys
[04:01] <ColonelKernel> so you might want to hold off on being impressed
[04:01] <paison> Has anyone successfully installed Java Plugins for Firefox without browser constantly shutting down??
[04:01] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: i would think you're slightly misguided.
[04:01] <bob2> pc1: so, you didn't actually bother to read those pages?
[04:01] <bob2> that's pretty obnoxious
[04:01] <pc1> cos im still new to this linux thts why i dont understnd the things
[04:01] <sono> I must confess though, that I had to buy a MainActor licence for Linux to finish some work.  But, please... even it is a good piece of software, it doesn't matter... just don't do it and support cinelerra dev, or better: upcoming PiTiVi
[04:01] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: IIRC there's an openmosix kernel for 2.6 now
[04:01] <pc1> i have read
[04:01] <Tidus> lemme check
[04:01] <pc1> i read it hoinest
[04:01] <robotgeek> ksmurf: you might have to do the whole ndiswrapper thing again :(
[04:01] <pc1> honest
[04:01] <ColonelKernel> Tidus, WHA WHA WHA _- where?!?!?! that rules
[04:02] <Flying-Penguin> how do I get  openldap for ubuntu?
[04:02] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: i'm looking now lol
[04:02] <pc7> im adjusting my resolution using fixresolutionhowto, im stuck (terminal) in "you have new email", what is the next commnand
[04:02] <pc7> im adjusting my resolution using fixresolutionhowto, im stuck (terminal) in "you have new email", what is the next commnand
[04:02] <pc7> help
[04:02] <pc1> anyway, il reread it and try it again
[04:02] <Epix> does transcode work in ubuntu?
[04:02] <pc7> im adjusting my resolution using fixresolutionhowto, im stuck (terminal) in "you have new email", what is the next commnand
[04:02] <pc1> waaaaaaaa
[04:02] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: gack.  sorry bout that.  it was grsec for 2.6 i was thinking of, and my brain had a quick farting session
[04:02] <bob2> pc1: please stop it
[04:02] <ksmurf> robotgeek ... i didn't do that the first time. hoary picked it up with madwifi.
[04:02] <Tidus> latest openmosix is 2.4.30
[04:02] <pc1> pc7 is in need of help too hahahaha
[04:02] <pc1> ok sori
[04:02] <ColonelKernel> Download openMosix-2.4.26-1.bz2
[04:03] <pc1> ok ill re read it and try it again if i can get it done
[04:03] <ColonelKernel> Tidus, :(
[04:03] <robotgeek> ksmurf: try inserting the madwifi module again, and try
[04:03] <ColonelKernel> if I knew enough Hebrew, i'd go to Israel and ask the profs about it
[04:04] <ColonelKernel> i'd offer to take either one of those guys and their wife out to dinner somewhere nice and ask them about getting OM for 2.6
[04:04] <pc1> bob2 are u mad at me? =(
[04:04] <Tidus> sort flood
[04:04] <Tidus> short flood*
[04:04] <Tidus> [ Results for search key : openmosix-sources ]
[04:04] <Tidus> [ Applications found : 1 ]
[04:04] <Tidus> *  sys-kernel/openmosix-sources Latest version available: 2.4.30-r3
[04:05] <Flying-Penguin> HOW do I get openldap for ubuntu???
[04:05] <ColonelKernel> wow thats newer than the one on the openmosix website
[04:05] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: for some odd reason i'm also seeing a 2.6.12 version of the openmosix sources
[04:05] <bob2> Tidus: what program is that output from?
[04:05] <ilba7r> anyone know the forum for breezy roadmap what is being included and what is deferred
[04:06] <Tidus> bob2: the portage package manager under gentoo linux... my ubuntu box is being redone
[04:06] <ilba7r> !breezy
[04:06] <pc1> another problem. how to make the resolution of this ubuntu into 1024x768 ? there is none in the resolution setup
[04:06] <Madpilot> ilba7r: search the wiki, I think a lot of that info is there
[04:06] <pc7> in terminal, what's d next command "you have new email"
[04:06] <robotgeek> pc1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:07] <pc1> ok ok il try =)
[04:07] <ilba7r> i had a spcecific page unfourtanetly myh mother board mulfunctioned and am using another pc now
[04:07] <ilba7r> tjhanx madpilot
[04:07] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: http://openmosix.snarc.org
[04:07] <ColonelKernel> Tidus, i saw that when I used gentoo too - but I didnt know how to take advantage of it
[04:07] <happy_broccoli> how easy is it to update from preview release to full release
[04:07] <ColonelKernel> uh oh
[04:07] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: i'm seeing a 2.6 version of openmosix
[04:08] <ColonelKernel> this may very well mean a move back to gentoo - but I really dont like gentoo at all
[04:08] <ColonelKernel> working with gentoo is like working on a 1980's cadillac
[04:08] <SlicerDicer> how so?
[04:08] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: you can download the patches yourself and apply them to the vanilla 2.6.12 kernel
[04:08] <Flying-Penguin> does no one like to awnser to me????????????????????????????????
[04:08] <dalamar> nope
[04:08] <ColonelKernel> 10 million config files that constantly need editing
[04:08] <HrdwrBoB> happy_broccoli: very easy to move, near impossible to move back when thigns don't work the way you expected them to :)
[04:09] <nomasteryoda> Flying-Penguin, penguins don't fly
[04:09] <ColonelKernel> most of which I'll have to admit I dont know how to do
[04:09] <nomasteryoda> =)
[04:09] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: please stop being so obnoxious
[04:09] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: and then re-ask your question, with more specifics
[04:09] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: i thank a little program under gentoo called dispatch-conf that takes care of most of that for me
[04:09] <nomasteryoda> thanks bob2
[04:09] <ColonelKernel> I will say this for gentoo - they have made the compile flags rather easy to do nowadays
[04:09] <happy_broccoli> HrdwrBoB: so if i download this breazy preview, when the final comes in october, what do i do
[04:09] <Flying-Penguin> nomasteryoda: have you personaly checked all penguins?
[04:09] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: do you mean "How do I install the OpenLDAP LDAP server?"?
[04:09] <vladuz976> anybody know how to use dvd::rip?
[04:09] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I was trying to make the new wine
[04:09] <nomasteryoda> happy_broccoli, unless you really like to patch daily and have things break... DonT
[04:09] <Tidus> vladuz976: i do... /msg me
[04:10] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: so say that
[04:10] <ColonelKernel> Tidus, webpage please? I liked the performance of gentoo, it was scary, but going from gnome 2.8 to gnome 2.10 really screwed up my sound
[04:10] <ColonelKernel> I hated it
[04:10] <HrdwrBoB> happy_broccoli: to upgrade to breezy all you have to do is change 'hoary' in your sources.list to 'breezy'
[04:10] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I got an error someone said I needed openldap that simple
[04:10] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: webpage for?
[04:10] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: instead of useless vague and confusing questions like you did above
[04:10] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: then tell us that, duh
[04:10] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I don't know more than that! I say what I know
[04:10] <nomasteryoda> Gnome 2.12 rocks
[04:10] <nomasteryoda> =)
[04:10] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: sudo apt-get build-dep wine
[04:10] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: no, you did not mention that it was an error from wine
[04:10] <dalamar> i installed the preview today, some little issues but nothing system crippiling
[04:10] <ColonelKernel> I didnt even know gnome 2.12 existed
[04:10] <don824chan> is there a Microsoft Access-esque Database tool with OpenOffice that i can use?
[04:10] <happy_broccoli> HrdwrBoB: does hoary use x.org ?
[04:10] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: This has nuthing to do with wine
[04:10] <bob2> ColonelKernel: only came out last week
[04:10] <nomasteryoda> dalamar, of breezy?
[04:10] <bob2> 12:09:51  Flying-Pengui |  bob2: I was trying to make the new wine
[04:11] <dalamar> nomasteryoda, yeah
[04:11] <pc1> haha, damn, the PC which i supposed to fix its resolution has fixed itself when i turned it on...lol, i dont kow why robotgeek.
[04:11] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: it has to do with someone saying that I needed openldap to do my make right
[04:11] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: what on earth are yo utalking about?
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> cool
[04:11] <mik3_> what command would i use to check the size of a directory in human readable numbers
[04:11] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: then stop talking, think about your question and ask it again, including all the relevant information
[04:11] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: "Flying-Pengui |  bob2: I was trying to make the new wine" backgroud, you said you wanted more
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> dalamar, actually has been better on my laptops than suse...
[04:11] <climhazzard> hey can you guys help me out? im installing ubuntu onto an external usb drive..install goe sfine, but grub keeps giving me a boot error
[04:11] <Flying-Penguin> all I know is
[04:11] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: "vitaliy_m you need openldap"
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> even considering 150 diff patches every other day
[04:12] <_chavo> Flying-Penguin, sudo apt-get install libldap2-dev
[04:12] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: are yo utrying to compile wine or not?
[04:12] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: nvm
[04:12] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: if so, stop being useless and ru nthe command I gave you
[04:12] <Flying-Penguin> _chavo: thank you
[04:12] <bob2> if not, your question makes no sense at all
[04:12] <mik3_> what command would i use to check the size of a directory in human readable numbers
[04:12] <bob2> mik3_: du -sh dir
[04:12] <dalamar> nomasteryoda, never ran suse, but switched to ubuntu from fedora core 4 and like it alot more, was iffy about moving to breezy but everything I do/use in hoary is working so no worries ;)
[04:12] <setite> hello people
[04:12] <ColonelKernel> mik3_, df -h I think
[04:12] <setite> bob2, hello
[04:12] <ColonelKernel> du sorry
[04:13] <climhazzard> anyone ?
[04:13] <setite> yoda's here
[04:13] <setite> wow i havent seeen him in a while
[04:13] <nomasteryoda> setite, hey
[04:13] <ColonelKernel> climhazzard, whats the error
[04:13] <bob2> climhazzard: do you have any reason to believe that will work?
[04:13] <nomasteryoda> dalamar, good
[04:13] <setite> climhazzard, whats your issue... i doubt i can help but ill try
[04:13] <climhazzard> error 21
[04:14] <climhazzard> grub isn't set up right or something..i can't boot windows or anything, it just gives me and error and thats it
[04:14] <setite> !error21
[04:14] <ubotu> Wish i knew, setite
[04:14] <carlson> i know this question is a bit hard, but on gnome how i can change the position of those 3 buttons ()min, max, close) from the top_right  to top_left?
[04:14] <setite> oh thats the xbox room that has the errors on the bot
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> booting?
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> grub error?
[04:14] <climhazzard> yeah
[04:14] <_chavo> carlson, run gconf-editor
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:14] <bob2> carlson: you mean in metacity? you need a new theme
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> just googled for that
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> looking
[04:15] <ColonelKernel> climhazzard, http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-grub/2003-02/msg00082.html
[04:15] <setite> climhazzard, did you look the error uip on the forum
[04:15] <climhazzard> i did
[04:15] <Badboy> Hey anyone know any good Linux Software thats also good for web hosting? Not including Ubuntu and Gentoo, because both of them won't work.
[04:15] <climhazzard> but nothing is fixing it
[04:15] <carlson> bob2,  I installed a cool theme, but i want the position of these buttons inverted with the system menu
[04:15] <ColonelKernel> Re: GRUB error '21' problem *solved*
[04:15] <happy_broccoli> Badboy: debian?
[04:15] <setite> go to that link from ColonelKernel it has a fix
[04:15] <bob2> carlson: then modify the theme
[04:15] <_chavo> carlson, then fo to apps -> metacity ->general
[04:15] <setite> !themes
[04:15] <bob2> Badboy: er, both work fine
[04:15] <ubotu> themes is probably at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[04:15] <dalamar> they wont work? sounds like user error to me ;)
[04:15] <_chavo> bob2, it's not a theme thing
[04:15] <SlicerDicer> Badboy: what? how will they not work?
[04:15] <bob2> Badboy: if they didn't, it's beause you misconfigured it.
[04:15] <SlicerDicer> Badboy: or do you just not know how?
[04:16] <_chavo> it's a metacity setting
[04:16] <bob2> Badboy: perhaps yo ushould rephrase your question to help us figure out what you did wrong?
[04:16] <climhazzard> where is the grub.conf located nayway?
[04:16] <bob2> _chavo: oh, I stand corrected
[04:16] <Badboy> Gentoo says my processor sucks
[04:16] <_chavo> carlson, did you see what I said
[04:16] <bob2> carlson: I'm sorry, my mistake
[04:16] <SlicerDicer> Badboy: I doubt that
[04:16] <carlson> _chavo,  hey man, you're great! it worked
[04:16] <_chavo> cool
[04:16] <SlicerDicer> Badboy: gentoo supports every processor on this earth just about lol
[04:16] <carlson> bob2, thanx, too man
[04:16] <Badboy> Hey anyone know any good Linux Software thats also good for web hosting? Not including Ubuntu and Gentoo, because both of them won't work. Gentoo says my processor needs to support 64 bit I think and Ubuntu keeps giving error 25
[04:16] <Badboy> Sorry about the beggining
[04:16] <Badboy> :-)
[04:16] <pc1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is quite complicated for me, any other way tht can fix resolution problem?
[04:17] <dalamar> use windows
[04:17] <SlicerDicer> Badboy: get the x86 livecds? learn how to use linux? ask questions that have bearing on what you did wrong?
[04:17] <bob2> Badboy: no, no OS will work if you fail to read the instructions
[04:17] <Badboy> I'm serious
[04:17] <bob2> Badboy: if you want help with ubuntu, you need to actually explain what you did, and hwo you came to have "error 25"
[04:17] <SlicerDicer> Badboy: we are too
[04:17] <HrdwrBoB> pc1: sometimes in order to fix your problem you may have to learn new things or do complicated things
[04:17] <Badboy> Fine
[04:17] <bob2> Badboy: if you want help woith gentoo, #gentoo
[04:17] <Badboy> ok
[04:17] <Badboy> no i want ubuntu
[04:17] <bob2> Badboy: both of your issues appear to be user error
[04:18] <pc1> ok ok
[04:18] <Badboy> so listen
[04:18] <bob2> Badboy: then don't come in here askign such a silly question
[04:18] <SlicerDicer> Badboy: if you want to learn how to use linux read some info on it go to wiki's go to forums read read read
[04:18] <pc1> but is there any other way that is more user freindly?
[04:18] <bob2> carlson: come in and say "I'm trying to install Ubuntu, but I get error 25 when I ..."
[04:18] <Badboy> I know how to use linux, it works fine on my 2 other computers
[04:18] <HrdwrBoB> pc1: not at this time
[04:18] <Badboy> I made a sucky computer with horrible parts
[04:18] <SlicerDicer> Badboy: learn to read errors properly give detailed information on what it says
[04:18] <Badboy> Heres the problem with Ubuntu
[04:18] <pc1> damn =( i didnt understand some of the configuratin in tht sudo thingy when i entered... =-(
[04:19] <ColonelKernel> SlicerDicer, what the name of the config file app that will take care of the ridiculous amount of config files one needs to edit every time they emerge world?
[04:19] <SlicerDicer> take error paste into google Badboy
[04:19] <Badboy> I downloaded the ISO and put it on the Boot CD
[04:19] <bob2> what is a "boot cd"?
[04:19] <Badboy> just listen first, please
[04:19] <HrdwrBoB> pc1: you could always ask, rather than simply stating you don't understand
[04:19] <setite> whats better than KGET
[04:19] <setite> kget breaks my .deb's
[04:19] <carlson> bob2, what?
[04:19] <SlicerDicer> ColonelKernel: etc-update? kinda dangerous to use though
[04:19] <pc1> fine
[04:19] <pc1> il try
[04:19] <bob2> Badboy: then put your entire sentences on single lines
[04:19] <Badboy> ok
[04:19] <bob2> Badboy: this one phrase per line thing is irritating
[04:19] <ColonelKernel> and I want to find the absolute optimum GCC settings I can use for a pentium4 2.6 ht northwood
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> setite, how so?
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> setite, wget?
[04:20] <ColonelKernel> SlicerDicer, that would be the reason I use ubuntu instead of gentoo
[04:20] <pc1> ok il transfer to the PC where the resolution is so big
[04:20] <HrdwrBoB> ColonelKernel: -O17
[04:20] <ColonelKernel> that and the community - Gentoo community is nice too though
[04:20] <Tidus> setite: just use wget from the terminal
[04:20] <afaik> is there some way to format a drive as vfat under linux?
[04:20] <SlicerDicer> ColonelKernel: I dont know drake about pentiums sorry
[04:20] <packman_e> hello all
[04:20] <ishtvan22> afaik: yes
[04:20] <jdermer> does 5.10 not have root terminal ?
[04:20] <ColonelKernel> people dont bitch at you for wanting to optimize things in gentoo, so that takes care of like 90% of the harassment I get for stupid questions
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> jdermer, sure it does
[04:21] <ColonelKernel> SlicerDicer, you an amd guy?
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> not root login
[04:21] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: /join ##gentoo-pub lol
[04:21] <afaik> ishtvan22, tell me more :)
[04:21] <jdermer> where
[04:21] <mik3_> thanks
[04:21] <bob2> ColonelKernel: don't waste your time
[04:21] <ColonelKernel> Tidus, that sounds frightening.
[04:21] <afaik> I am in desperate need to quickly format an external usb drive as vfat
[04:21] <ColonelKernel> bob2, lol
[04:21] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: it's not.
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> jdermer, you mean a menu item?
[04:21] <afaik> it is currently ntfs, rendered unuseable from linux
[04:21] <jdermer> i dont see it in applications ---> system tools ---> root terminal
[04:21] <jdermer> yea
[04:21] <ColonelKernel> bob2, im ust talking for my server - ubuntu stays on my desktop
[04:21] <bob2> ColonelKernel: you're never going to get enough of a boost to make it worth the time we've even spent talking about it here
[04:21] <Tidus> ColonelKernel: it's an unofficial channel where you can just hang out and get your questions answered with minimal hassle.
[04:21] <bob2> ColonelKernel: it's even less worth it then
[04:21] <setite> hey how do i install kde themes... the theme manager isnt finding the theme files in the folder
[04:22] <ColonelKernel> theres no way in hades i'd run gentoo on my desktop
[04:22] <bob2> ColonelKernel: how much of the time does your kernel even run on your CPU?
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> jdermer,  well, I have always done the sudo -s in a terminal...
[04:22] <bob2> ColonelKernel: maybe 1%
[04:22] <bob2> ColonelKernel: so divide any speed up you think you might get by 100
[04:22] <ColonelKernel> I like to use gentoo on a server because I set it up once with stage 3, optimize it, emerge -e world, and then leave it the hell alone
[04:22] <afaik> ishtvan22, please tell me... I have apt-cache searched for mkfs.vfat and didn't find it
[04:22] <Tidus> bob2: on gentoo, you compile everything you install
[04:22] <Cashel> howdies
[04:22] <ishtvan22> afaik: what partitioner are u going to use?
[04:22] <packman_e> hey guys i have a bit of a problem when viewing videos. it seems that anytime i try to play a video it is always out of sync (video/audio) is there any way to correct this please
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> jdermer,  so I'll not miss it... you can recreate it... using the gksudo command
[04:22] <ColonelKernel> i use centos right now on server though
[04:23] <ColonelKernel> its so solid
[04:23] <Cashel> has anyone been able to use xvidtune in hoary?? Is it just me having problems? :P
[04:23] <Badboy> I downloaded the ISO on to a blank CD and ran it on my computer. It asked if I wanted default and I hit enter. I finished all the steps and it partitioned my Hard Drive and told me to remove the CD from the drive, so it can reboot. It rebooted and loaded GRUB and while it was loading, it said Error 25 and nothing happens. If anyone has any suggestions or ideas on how I can solve the problem,...
[04:23] <Badboy> ...please PM me or just tell me in this room. Also, if anyone knows any good Linux Software that's good for hosting your website please share.
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, check you dma settings
[04:23] <jdermer> nomasteryoda, wuts the password tho
[04:23] <ishtvan22> afaik: in cfdisk there is multiple fat things
[04:23] <ColonelKernel> I am on the chat channel but theres nothing on it that doesnt work , not that I dont know how to fix
[04:23] <bob2> Tidus: yes, I know, which is a waste of time
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> jdermer, same as your first user
[04:23] <afaik> ah, so I just use cfdisk to format it?
[04:23] <Tidus> Badboy: apache2 is the webserver
[04:23] <jdermer> k
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> you I would guess
[04:23] <jdermer> and wuts the gksudo ?
[04:23] <packman_e> nomasteryoda, what is dma settings?
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> a gtk sudo "login" box
[04:24] <jdermer> k
[04:24] <afaik> also, the usb drive is labeled as 140 gigs, but seems to really have 160 gigs... if I destroy those partitions and create one partition, will it break things?
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> !ubotu tell packman_e about hdparm
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> !ubotu tell packman_e about dma
[04:24] <afaik> there are currently about 4 partitions?
[04:24] <afaik> should I even use fdisk on it?
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, hope that helps
[04:24] <afaik> or just format the biggest part to be safe?
[04:25] <Cashel> !tell cashel about xvidtune
[04:25] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, you can set it with sudo hpdarm -d1 /dev/hda (if hda is your first hd)
[04:25] <Badboy> Any answers people???
[04:25] <Badboy> I downloaded the ISO on to a blank CD and ran it on my computer. It asked if I wanted default and I hit enter. I finished all the steps and it partitioned my Hard Drive and told me to remove the CD from the drive, so it can reboot. It rebooted and loaded GRUB and while it was loading, it said Error 25 and nothing happens. If anyone has any suggestions or ideas on how I can solve the problem,...
[04:25] <Badboy> ...please PM me or just tell me in this room. Also, if anyone knows any good Linux Software that's good for hosting your website please share.
[04:25] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, and use xine
[04:25] <bob2> Badboy: please stop it
[04:25] <bob2> Badboy: a) don't repeate
[04:25] <Badboy> Sorry
[04:25] <Badboy> Just desperate
[04:25] <bob2> Badboy: b) your "hosting software" questoin is stupid, just use apache like everyone else.
[04:25] <nomasteryoda> Badboy, too much caffeine?
[04:25] <packman_e> i think it is totem that runs when i try and watch the music videos
[04:25] <Badboy> Yea
[04:26] <Badboy> But I want a good Linux software
[04:26] <Madpilot> Badboy: your main issue I have no idea about. but apache is in Ubuntu's repos...
[04:26] <pc6> hi its me pc1, lol, ubuntu has mercy on me, he fixed by himself after i entered the sudo thingy for fixing resolution problem..its fixed now. anyway, thanks guys..ill need ur help if il have to set things here...until then. have nice day
[04:26] <Madpilot> !tell Badboy about lamp
[04:26] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, you can right click a video file and choose open with
[04:26] <bob2> Badboy: apache
[04:26] <ironuckles> Badboy, how was your drive partitioned before installing Ubuntu?
[04:26] <packman_e> ahh
[04:26] <packman_e> does xine have a play list
[04:26] <Badboy> No, it was partitioned during the installation
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, and Ubuntu/gnome will put an entry there... much like winders
[04:27] <ishtvan22> afiak: in cfdisk you can manage all the partitions
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> does
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, you can also change the default application used for videos
[04:27] <packman_e> ahh
[04:27] <packman_e> sweet
[04:27] <packman_e> sorry btw i am a newb
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> yup
[04:27] <SlicerDicer> umm wtf is up with nvidia drivers and ubuntu?
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> np
[04:27] <ironuckles> Badboy, were you running Windows on this drive prior to installing Linux?
[04:27] <bobby> SlicerDicer, nothing?
[04:27] <Badboy> No
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> SlicerDicer, nothing from my point of view
[04:28] <Badboy> New Drive
[04:28] <Badboy> 80 GB IDE
[04:28] <packman_e> ijust installed 2 days ago and updated it
[04:28] <packman_e> it seems like a nice distro
[04:28] <bob2> Badboy: is it the first disk?
[04:28] <SlicerDicer> well apparently bobby and nomasteryoda the damn thing is not working right... it wont give me the speeds I am usto in fps I get about 1/3rd normal
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> certainly packman_e yes
[04:28] <packman_e> and eventhough it has a lot of software it does not feel bloated
[04:28] <Badboy> bob2: What do you mean?
[04:28] <bobby> SlicerDicer, are you using nv or the official nvidia drivers?
[04:29] <nomasteryoda> SlicerDicer, er, did you install the nvidia drivers ...
[04:29] <bob2> Badboy: is it the primary master?
[04:29] <Badboy> No
[04:29] <Badboy> slave
[04:29] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, ubuntu is very fast...
[04:29] <SlicerDicer> bobby: and nomasteryoda when I run glxgears it does not give me speed readouts or anything.... yes nvidia drivers are installed and they are the ones in multiverse IIRC
[04:29] <Cashel> any one here every get xvidtune to work on hoary?? Doesnt for me and I cant figure out why...
[04:29] <teeagoo> somebody help-me: Erros foram encontrados durante processamento de:
[04:29] <teeagoo>  at
[04:29] <teeagoo>  ubuntu-standard
[04:29] <teeagoo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:29] <nomasteryoda> SlicerDicer, so you get that nice Nvidia white screen?
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> on login
[04:30] <packman_e> one thing that does look a bit weird is that since i installed Kde alot of the entrys on my menus nont have a pic by them, just a grey box
[04:30] <teeagoo> how i force installation?
[04:30] <`fusion> I'm trying to use apt-get, but I keep getting errors about how packages can't be found.  I did apt-get update, anything off the top of anyones head??
[04:30] <SlicerDicer> nomasteryoda: of course
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> just checking
[04:30] <Badboy> bob2: Should it be Primary Master?
[04:30] <bob2> Badboy: does that fix it?
[04:30] <SlicerDicer> nomasteryoda: when I run glxgears it does nothing but spin it does not give a readout of how many fps like normal either
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> SlicerDicer, there is a switch that can make it show framerates
[04:30] <bob2> teeagoo: a) english, b) #flood
[04:30] <Badboy> bob2: Ill try
[04:31] <bob2> teeagoo: c) tell us what you're doing when you get that error
[04:31] <XoBelLoX> hey every 1
[04:31] <SlicerDicer> nomasteryoda: switch?
[04:31] <bob2> `fusion: paste the error to #flood
[04:31] <teeagoo> bob2, sorry
[04:31] <XoBelLoX> any 1 wont to talk
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> yup
[04:31] <Badboy> bob2: nope
[04:31] <Badboy> Bob2: Still error
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> ' -showfps or some such
[04:31] <packman_e> nomasteryoda, when i tried xine to play music video i get no sound?
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, lol
[04:32] <bob2> glxgears is NOT A BENCHMARKING TOOL
[04:32] <XoBelLoX> hey ever1` wats up?
[04:32] <n3trunner> asd
[04:32] <bob2> there is a reason daniels added that flag
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, did you up the volume? i think sometimes xine is muted on load
[04:32] <packman_e> am i doing something wrong?
[04:32] <nfinitep1astik> i have samba installed and i need help sharing my folders so my XP machine can see it. can someone please help me?
[04:32] <setite> anyone have a suggestion for a kde theme
[04:32] <XoBelLoX> 14/f/or u
[04:32] <`fusion> bob2, I pasted it there
[04:32] <nfinitep1astik> setite: default?
[04:32] <bob2> XoBelLoX: this is not a chat channel
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> setite, panther
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> nice
[04:33] <setite> there are alot of panthers
[04:33] <SlicerDicer> well crap if I cant get this fixed I cannot use ubuntu :/
[04:33] <bob2> `fusion: which is true, there is no package called mplayer
[04:33] <packman_e> nomasteryoda, the volume is up but still no sound
[04:33] <teeagoo> when i do "dist-upgrade" i got this error:"E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:33] <teeagoo> " (when dpkg try install ubuntu-standard)
[04:33] <bob2> `fusion: apt-cache search mplayer
[04:33] <bob2> teeagoo: no, that is not useful
[04:33] <bob2> teeagoo: we need the ENTIRE output to #flood
[04:33] <nfinitep1astik> i have samba installed and i need help sharing my folders so my XP machine can see it. can someone please help me?
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, is some other video app running?
[04:33] <setite> packman_e, what card
[04:33] <bob2> nomasteryoda: stop repeating
[04:33] <bob2> bah
[04:33] <SlicerDicer> nomasteryoda: no its not working its not showing FPS why does ubuntu have to be so damn difficult? In gentoo I just run glxgears and it shows fps why would you not want it to show?
[04:33] <bob2> nfinitep1astik: stop repeating
[04:34] <setite> packman_e, do you have an sb audigy or somethign like that
[04:34] <nfinitep1astik> bob2: well, have to make sure at least someone reads it once. ^.^
[04:34] <bob2> SlicerDicer: because it is not a benchmarking tool
[04:34] <bob2> SlicerDicer: and having it print the FPS encourages people to think it is
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> ty
[04:34] <bob2> nfinitep1astik: no, you're just being annoying
[04:34] <communico> hey, I uninstalled kernel-2.6.11 on Friday. now I want to uninstall it. how does one go about that? do you go into the directory and type make uninstall or something?
[04:34] <bob2> communico: ha ha
[04:34] <bob2> communico: no, delete whatever it installed
[04:34] <teeagoo> bob2, but i use pt-br lang...
[04:34] <bob2> communico: which may be heard, you should have stuck with the ubuntu packages
[04:34] <SlicerDicer> bob2: yeah well its been identical always on my system and now I cant see it... I want to have it show so I dont have to launch a damn game to find out that my FPS are still fubar
[04:35] <bob2> teeagoo: then turn it off
[04:35] <setite> packman_e, you there?
[04:35] <packman_e> no other multimedia app is running. not entirely sure what sound card i am using, as i am using a hp laptop
[04:35] <nfinitep1astik> bob2: alright...i apologize then
[04:35] <setite> oh
[04:35] <bob2> SlicerDicer: ignore your "FPS" then, it has nothign to do with anything
[04:35] <setite> then it might be built in
[04:35] <setite> hmmmm
[04:35] <teeagoo> bob2, how?
[04:35] <bob2> SlicerDicer: glxinfo will tell you if you have hardware acceleration or not
[04:35] <setite> my fix may not work so much then
[04:35] <communico> bob2: I'm trying to install a raid. someone in this chat told me I needed the kernel ... then someone else told me not to install it, but it was too late
[04:35] <bob2> teeagoo: LANG=C apt-get ....
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, it might be an intel
[04:35] <SlicerDicer> bob2: ohh yeah right when I get really low fps I cannot run games right? how the hell am I suposto ignore that?
[04:35] <SlicerDicer> bob2: get real
[04:35] <bob2> SlicerDicer: stop being an idiot
[04:35] <ishtvan22> wow, i just checked my glx gears and they run at like 12 fps even tho i can play unreal tournament 2004 fine, any1 no why?
[04:36] <setite> for sb audigy 2 zs and many sb cards ubuntu has the external jack in the alsamixer off by default
[04:36] <SlicerDicer> bob2: well I am asking serious questions and nobody can give me a answer
[04:36] <bob2> SlicerDicer: that has nothign to do with glxgears
[04:36] <factotum> hmmm...do I need to reinstall the nvidia drivers after a kernel update? I got it running fine right now with "nv" in my xorg.conf, but otherwise I get no usable screen/setup/whatever
[04:36] <afaik> ishtvan22, I used cfdisk to make it w95 fat32, but it does not format it
[04:36] <bob2> SlicerDicer: and your question is?
[04:36] <SlicerDicer> bob2: I realise it has nothing to do with glxgears
[04:36] <afaik> ishtvan22, how can I format it as fat32... under linux?
[04:36] <bob2> SlicerDicer: if it's "how do I get glxgears to show my framerate?", it is a silly question
[04:36] <SlicerDicer> bob2: I want it to work so I can keep running it as I test things to see when the fps start to increase
[04:36] <teeagoo> bob2, dpkg: error processing ubuntu-standard (--configure):
[04:36] <bob2> SlicerDicer: if it's "Unreal tournamenet plays really slowly", then that is an actual issue
[04:36] <teeagoo>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:36] <teeagoo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:36] <teeagoo>  at
[04:36] <teeagoo>  ubuntu-standard
[04:36] <teeagoo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:37] <SlicerDicer> bob2: well yes it does infact and many other games
[04:37] <ishtvan22> afaik: the tool in linux is called cfdisk
[04:37] <bob2> SlicerDicer: there you go then
[04:37] <bob2> teeagoo: jesus christ
[04:37] <afaik> ishtvan22, I used it!
[04:37] <bob2> teeagoo: you didn't do anyt of the thigns I asked
[04:37] <afaik> it didn;t format it though
[04:37] <bob2> teeagoo: a) #flood, not here
[04:37] <afaik> it just changed the partition table
[04:37] <bob2> teeagoo: b) the entire error
[04:37] <bob2> SlicerDicer: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:37] <SlicerDicer> bob2: what is causing my fps to be 1/3rd what it is in gentoo then?
[04:37] <bob2> SlicerDicer: you followed that?  what did you change since it worked?
[04:37] <afaik> it's an external usb drive though, but that shouldn't matter much, should it?
[04:38] <ishtvan22> afaik: what do you mean it did not format it?
[04:38] <nfinitep1astik> i have samba installed and i need help sharing my folders so my XP machine can see it. can someone please help me?
[04:38] <bob2> nfinitep1astik: stop it
[04:38] <bob2> nfinitep1astik: if you're not going to provide more information, no one can help you
[04:38] <communico> bob2: so going into /usr/src/ and deleteing the linux dir (where I installed it) should do the trick?
[04:38] <SlicerDicer> bob2: Umm it worked properly in gentoo since I went ubuntu it does not work right?
[04:38] <bob2> communico: no
[04:38] <bob2> SlicerDicer: that's not a useful description of the problem
[04:38] <afaik> ishtvan22, the files are still there when I mount it
[04:38] <bob2> SlicerDicer: did you follow that howto or not?
[04:38] <afaik> and it is still ntfs
[04:38] <afaik> so annoying :(
[04:38] <bob2> communico: define "install"
[04:39] <SlicerDicer> bob2: yep I followed what that wiki said to do without needing to read it so yeah
[04:39] <ishtvan22> afaik: you need to press write
[04:39] <bob2> SlicerDicer: so, you didn't read it at all?
[04:39] <nfinitep1astik> bob2: alright....i'll rephrase it
[04:39] <packman_e> the thing is, is that when i play the music video in totem, the sound works but when i play it in xine the sound does not work
[04:39] <ishtvan22> afaik: and you will have to type in yes
[04:39] <SlicerDicer> bob2: no need I know what to do I have done it before I have used ubuntu before
[04:39] <bob2> packman_e: tell xine to use esd for output
[04:39] <bob2> packman_e: or pkill esd
[04:39] <SlicerDicer> bob2: what I did is no differnet than what that wiki said
[04:39] <bob2> SlicerDicer: oh, I'm sorry for doubting you
[04:39] <afaik> ishtvan22, I am not dumb
[04:39] <afaik> ishtvan22, I did that
[04:39] <communico> bob2: well I downloaded linux-source-2.6.11 and decompressed it into /usr/src/linux. then I did the make install make menuconfig etc. I didn't change any boot files
[04:39] <afaik> it shows up as fat32 under cfdisk
[04:40] <ishtvan22> afaik: im sorry but i dont know what the problem is
[04:40] <afaik> but mounting it tells me otherwise
[04:40] <bob2> communico: then just ignore it
[04:40] <bob2> nfinitep1astik: if the problem is that samba is not sharing anything, then you just need to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:40] <SlicerDicer> bob2: I am just really frustrated trying to figure out why my gfx speeds are 1/3rd of normal.... 3D acceleration works everything works its just 1/3rd speed
[04:40] <ishtvan22> afaik: your fstab may may say it is NTFS
[04:40] <afaik> ishtvan22, but why are the files still there?
[04:41] <nfinitep1astik> i've recently installed samba and am trying to share a folder on my ubuntu ibook.  i've gone through system ---> administration ---> shared folders,and tried to share the folder there with no dice. anyone have ideas?
[04:41] <SlicerDicer> bob2: I figured maybe it was that ubuntu did not like using a K8 cpu on 32bit version so I flopped over to 64bit version but that was not the case so I have no idea what to do
[04:41] <bob2> SlicerDicer: no, of course that's not the problem
[04:41] <nfinitep1astik> bob2: thanks...i'll try that
[04:42] <bob2> nfinitep1astik: there are example blocks at the bottom, just copy and change one of them
[04:42] <ishtvan22> afaik: idk, look in your mount directory with it not mounted
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> nfinitep1astik, so is your nick like the plastic creature from DrWho.... just had to ask
[04:42] <packman_e> bob2, where in the options do you see esd?
[04:42] <SlicerDicer> bob2: then what could be causing it?
[04:42] <pc1> the Networking under System tab wont  show up, how to fix this?
[04:42] <SlicerDicer> bob2: glxinfo looks fine nothing out of line xorg.log.0 looks fine
[04:42] <setite> hey how do i copy a folder over another in the console
[04:42] <nfinitep1astik> nomasteryoda: actually,it'sfrom nvidia's nfiniteFX engine and p1astik used to be a set of anime t-shirts
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> kool
[04:43] <nfinitep1astik> bob2: thanks for the advice....i appreciate your patience
[04:43] <pc1> the Networking configurator under System to Administration  tab wont  show up, how to fix this?
[04:43] <Damone> anyone can hel me using guidedog
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> pc1, you mean it is there, but it won't launch?
[04:43] <omp> hi ubuntists :)
[04:43] <pc1> ya, it is there and when im going to click it, it wont launch
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> pc1, you can run same cmd ... sudo network-admin
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> in terminal
[04:43] <packman_e> bob2, ah, don't worry i found it
[04:44] <pc1> ok ok il try
[04:44] <nfinitep1astik> bob2: i opened up smb.conf, but it was empty
[04:44] <communico> bob2: I want to install a different one, and I'm kinda worried that I'm installing something over the top
[04:44] <SlicerDicer> bob2: well sorry if I offended you to where you wont help me anymore :/ take care please dont hold it against me I have been fighting this for 5 hours just frustrated
[04:45] <packman_e> nomasteryoda, i just realised, in xine there is no problems with the audio/video sync , where as in totem there is... i wonder why that is?
[04:45] <`fusion> bob2, yeah I know that know, but there is a package called beep-media-player  I get the same error on it as well
[04:45] <Cashel> Anyone know a reason why xvidtune might not work if its not disabled in xorg.conf?
[04:46] <packman_e> bob2, what is that esd thing anyways if u dont mind me asking
[04:46] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, it might be dropping some frames just to make it better
[04:46] <bob2> nfinitep1astik: /etc/samba/smb.conf comes with samba
[04:46] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, mplayer sometimes is better for me.
[04:46] <Cashel> packman: Enlightenment Sound Daemon
[04:46] <bob2> SlicerDicer: then it's time to ask somewhere more useful
[04:46] <bob2> SlicerDicer: try on the mailing list
[04:46] <packman_e> nomasteryoda, is that mplayer better than xine?
[04:46] <bob2> `fusion: you're missing the point
[04:47] <`fusion> oh heh
[04:47] <bob2> `fusion: that error is apt saying "No, that package does not exist to the best of my knowledge."
[04:47] <nomasteryoda> packman_e, it has plugins for firefox/mozilla too
[04:47] <nfinitep1astik> bob2: correct. i tried to nano it and it opened up empty...so i assume i have to enter in the shares manually?
[04:47] <nomasteryoda> apt-cache search Mplayer
[04:47] <SlicerDicer> bob2: ahh well I will continue testing I am going to yank all the ubuntu parts of nvidia drivers off remove the module and use nvidia's drivers and see what happens
[04:47] <`fusion> I did a search on the packages website for beep-media-player
[04:47] <bob2> `fusion: perhaps you haven't told apt to use universe and multiverse?
[04:47] <Damone>    can anyone help me sharing internet?
[04:47] <`fusion> no I haven't done that
[04:47] <`fusion> if I need to how do I do it :>
[04:47] <bob2> `fusion: there you go then
[04:47] <SlicerDicer> bob2: it wont hurt as I nuked my system already once doing this all my data is backed up :)
[04:47] <bob2> ~+repository
[04:47] <bob2> !+repositories
[04:47] <ubotu> it has been said that repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:48] <bob2> `fusion: read that
[04:48] <`fusion> yessir.
[04:48] <bob2> and startign a nick with a non-alphanum char is annoying for tabcompletion
[04:48] <bob2> packman_e: it takes control of the sound card, then eveyr other app that wants sound access talks to it
[04:48] <bob2> communico: it doesn't matter
[04:48] <`fusion> lol sorry
[04:48] <fusion`> :>
[04:50] <packman_e> btw is there any software in linux that can help you sync/update stuff on a pda (running ms win mobile 2003)?
[04:51] <ksmurf> ndiswrapper didn't work.... it's looking like I will be celibate for a loooonnnnngggg ttttiiiimmmmeee
[04:51] <jon__> hm
[04:52] <SlicerDicer> bob2: where is the kernel source listed in synaptic? I am not finding it in base system
[04:52] <setite> packman_e, im sure there is
[04:52] <jon__> What card are you trying to use ?
[04:52] <Damone> I need help with internet sharing!!, plzzz
[04:52] <jon__> YOu can get kernel sources from kernel.org
[04:52] <ksmurf> the DWL G520
[04:52] <bimberi> packman_e: have a look at packages with names like "synce" (and maybe multisync too)
[04:52] <bob2> SlicerDicer: you don't want or need the kernel source
[04:52] <bob2> and including it in the base system would be moronic
[04:52] <setite> evolution syncs too does it not
[04:52] <bob2> SlicerDicer: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:53] <ColonelKernel> bob2, I do! I like to compile my own kernels - its fun
[04:53] <jon__> Yeah use Gentoo
[04:53] <SlicerDicer> bob2: thank you
[04:53] <ColonelKernel> it teaches one about how the kernel works
[04:53] <bimberi> setite: yes, evolution can sync via multisync
[04:53] <bob2> ColonelKernel: no it doesn't
[04:53] <setite> ahhh with multisync... ok
[04:53] <bob2> ColonelKernel: no more than compiling glibc teaches you about glibc
[04:53] <ColonelKernel> Linux p4ht 2.6.12-8.12 #1 SMP Thu Sep 1 02:29:24 PDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux <---- woohoo yes it does :P
[04:53] <setite> dunno... i dont have a pda...
[04:54] <nfinitep1astik> whoa...netsplit
[04:54] <setite> whoohoo the splittage!
[04:54] <SlicerDicer> oy death to freenode :/
[04:54] <Tidus> netsplit central
[04:54] <ksmurf> nfinate do you know how to solve this issue I have....lol
[04:54] <Madpilot> SlicerDicer: nah, this happens sometimes...
[04:54] <ColonelKernel> is freenode still under attack?
[04:54] <nfinitep1astik> ksmurf: what was it bro?
[04:55] <ColonelKernel> those people did that to dalnet too
[04:55] <Cashel> Anyone know a reason why xvidtune might not work if its not disabled in xorg.conf? May as well ask again when I have you all to myself :P
[04:55] <SlicerDicer> Madpilot: I know :)
[04:55] <ksmurf> the ati 9000 aiw and the dwl g520 cards
[04:55] <pc1> hi , i fixed the network to show up already by entering the sudo network-admin tht someone had told me here. now another problem is, i have no sound here in this PC, other pc in my cafe has but this no.how to fix?
[04:55] <bob2> Cashel: "not work"?
[04:55] <nfinitep1astik> ksmurf: so the video drivers and the wireless ones right?
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> and they're back
[04:56] <factotum> hmmm...do I need to reinstall the nvidia drivers after a kernel update? I got it running fine right now with "nv" in my xorg.conf, but otherwise I get no usable screen/setup/whatever
[04:56] <ksmurf> yes .... for breezy
[04:56] <bob2> factotum: if you're using the ubuntu drivers, no
[04:56] <Cashel> bob2, I get "invalid mode" requested even if I request the current mode, as if it was disabled in xorg.conf or something, but its not....
[04:56] <nfinitep1astik> ksmurf: you have a x86 process correct/
[04:56] <ksmurf> yes
[04:57] <ksmurf> on my wife's machine
[04:57] <nfinitep1astik> ksmurf: go to the ati website and dl the drivers
[04:57] <pc1> no sound in this pc, i have already put all the volume to loudest but stil no sound. how to fix?
[04:57] <Lamia> there we go
[04:57] <Lamia> debian, fedora ?   some overspew channels
[04:57] <Lamia> ubuntu - right on the money
[04:57] <Flying-Penguin> how do I install libxt in ubuntu?
[04:57] <SlicerDicer> bob2: is there anyway to use ubuntu without it forcing gcc 4 down my neck?
[04:57] <ksmurf> k done
[04:57] <Tidus> pc1: it may have not loaded the right modules.
[04:57] <nfinitep1astik> ksmurf: as far as your wireless internet goes, you'll have to find the appropriate windows drivers and then use ndiswrapper to port it
[04:58] <pc1> lamia, are u a filipino?
[04:58] <factotum> alright, yeah the "nv" driver works fine, but the "nvidia" driver i have been using just kinda went dead on me, no biggie
[04:58] <Tidus> pc1: what kind of soundcard?
[04:58] <Lamia> I have a question,
[04:58] <Flying-Penguin> how do I install libxt in ubuntu?
[04:58] <pc1> ahm, il try to see..
[04:58] <bob2> SlicerDicer: wtf
[04:58] <bob2> SlicerDicer: this is not gentoo
[04:58] <Lamia> waht is a good folder candidate name for extras during install
[04:58] <packman_e> tried to open video in mplayer and the damn thing has frozen on me
[04:58] <Stik> omfg at getting sound working :|
[04:58] <Damone> anyone can help me about sharing internet conecction w/linux??????
[04:58] <Lamia> I'll share it
[04:58] <bob2> factotum: if you installed the drivers from nvidia.com., yes, you have to manually unbreak it after each update
[04:58] <Cashel> ksmurf, if you get truly desperate w/ r300 based chips: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html .. worked great for me but had to modify the "rules" file so it didnt try builing the control panel...
[04:58] <Flying-Penguin> how do I install libxt in ubuntu?
[04:58] <pc1> its via soundcard
[04:58] <SlicerDicer> bob2: I never said it was
[04:58] <bob2> SlicerDicer: install gcc-3.4 if that's what you want
[04:58] <pc1> but i dont know what specific model
[04:59] <pc1> but its VIA
[04:59] <fusion`> haha
[04:59] <Lamia> I've a C# app, I want to include Adobe Acrobat,  what's a good name for a folder with those 'extras'
[04:59] <fusion`> bob2, thanks what you said worked
[04:59] <Lamia> or 'proper' name
[04:59] <Tidus> Damone: i know of a little howto on the gentoo web site.  the instructions are general enough to use on any distro... you'll just have to change 'emerge' to 'apt-get'
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> pc1, lspci in a terminal
[04:59] <pc1> ViA chipset souncard under AMD processor
[04:59] <fusion`> now beep won't play mp3's because I have to install the extension I'm told
[04:59] <pc1> oh ok il try
[04:59] <factotum> oh wierd, the one I have was from a repo i added from one of the ubuntu starter guides
[04:59] <fusion`> seems way more difficult than windows, really
[04:59] <SlicerDicer> bob2: I cannot get the nvidia kernel module to build with nvidia's installer its just puking out... The packages provided by ubuntu obviously are not doing the trick so thats why I asked
[04:59] <Flying-Penguin> how do I install libxt in ubuntu?
[04:59] <fusion`> I'm unimpressed :(
[04:59] <Lamia> lol fusion
[04:59] <Lamia> buit
[04:59] <bob2> SlicerDicer: "obviously not doing the trick"? they work perfectly well.
[04:59] <Madpilot> !tell fusion` about mp3
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> fusion`, just because every virus autoloads on windows...
[04:59] <Flying-Penguin> ANYONE?
[05:00] <nomasteryoda> =)
[05:00] <Lamia> you're not dependent on #microshaft whores
[05:00] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: stop it
[05:00] <factotum> i can just do a dpkg-reconfigure... and see if that works
[05:00] <Lamia> !tell me about default folder names
[05:00] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I am so sorry to spam you guys
[05:00] <SymGeosis> Flying-Penguin, apt-get install libxt6
[05:00] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: if you'd stop being annoying and read what I said earlier, you'd be done by now
[05:00] <Lamia> pc1 - no I like Genesis
[05:00] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: are you compiling wine?
[05:00] <Lamia> damn it
[05:00] <SlicerDicer> bob2: well my fps are 1/3rd normal I am getting like 9fps in UT2004.... I have a 5900XT that normally gets 30+ fps with all settings maxed
[05:00] <Lamia> someone give me a name
[05:00] <Lamia> god damn it
[05:00] <HrdwrBoB> fusion`: unfortunately that can't be avoided due to legal issues which are well out of ubuntus contorl
[05:00] <Lamia> default folder name for extras during install
[05:00] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I hate when people do, but I realy need to finsh this befor I leave my moms (no internet and I need it for school) my school is above me being nice
[05:00] <Cashel> Flying-Penguin, apt-get install libxt6
[05:00] <SlicerDicer> bob2: its unplayable
[05:00] <Lamia> be a part of history
[05:00] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: yes I am
[05:01] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: then bloody say so
[05:01] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: sudo apt-get build-dep wine
[05:01] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: then compile it
[05:01] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: all done
[05:01] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: will that be the newest version?
[05:01] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: holy hell
[05:01] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: I told you this an hour and a half ago
[05:01] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: it installs the wine build dependencies
[05:02] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[05:02] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: you then compile whatever version you want
[05:02] <bob2> if you hadn't ignored me, you'd be done and drinking beer by now
[05:02] <cusco> lol
[05:02] <Flying-Penguin> SO SORRY
[05:02] <Flying-Penguin> I feal stupid
[05:02] <pc1> this is it ==> Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8 237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[05:02] <pc1> how to fix?
[05:03] <pc3> help me
[05:03] <pc1_> this is it ==> Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8 237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[05:03] <pc1_> how to fix?
[05:03] <pc1_> no sound
[05:03] <bob2> pc1_: pc3 change your nicks
[05:03] <ksmurf> k I installed the ndiswarpper drivers But it can't find wlan0
[05:03] <bob2> and stop being annoying
[05:03] <pc3> how to copy image in openoffice
[05:03] <SymGeosis> bob2, are you always so openly hostile to everyone?
[05:04] <pc1_> bob2, its ok where in the same room, those are my cuosins
[05:04] <SlicerDicer> SymGeosis: I was just about to ask the same thing lol
[05:04] <pc3> help
[05:04] <Mineyo> wuts a good ftp client for ubuntu
[05:04] <bob2> pc3: no one is going to help you unless you improve your attitude
[05:04] <pc1_> becuase we are putting Ubuntu in my little internet cafe
[05:04] <SymGeosis> Mineyo, gftp works pretty good.
[05:04] <Cashel> this is my cousing daryl and my other cousin daryl
[05:04] <bob2> pc3: line after line of "help" makes people just ignore you and hope you go away soon
[05:04] <SlicerDicer> lol Cashel
[05:04] <bob2> Mineyo: the gnome file manager is a pretty ok ftp client
[05:05] <pc1_> bob2, pls understand him, he knows little english
[05:05] <GoClick> Mineyo gftp
[05:05] <Mineyo> i cant apt-get gftp tho
[05:05] <bimberi> Mineyo: Places -> Connect to Server
[05:05] <pc1_> he is my cousin where in the same room
[05:05] <pc3> help me nevermind the attitude plz help me
[05:05] <HrdwrBoB> pc3: people here are volunteers.
[05:05] <HrdwrBoB> attitude is everything
[05:06] <HrdwrBoB> we are not being paid to help you, so there needs to be alittle give and take
[05:06] <pc3> ok sorry
[05:06] <SymGeosis> Mineyo, why not?
[05:06] <bob2> this is getting worse and worse
[05:06] <Mineyo> i dont know
[05:06] <pc3> sorrysorry\
[05:06] <pc1_> mine is sound problem.how to fix?
[05:06] <Cashel> pcN(_): You might try letting the best english speaker stay, and the rest of you leave and read over his shoulder :)
[05:06] <GoClick> Mineyo it should already be installed
[05:06] <bob2> this attitude crap scares away all the clueful people
[05:06] <SymGeosis> Mineyo, did you add the extra repos?
[05:06] <pc3> pls help
[05:06] <bob2> pc3: please stop it
[05:06] <HrdwrBoB> pc3: one problem at a time.
[05:06] <GoClick> Mineyo that if you did a standard install, with a more or less recent version of Ubuntu, otherwise apt-get should work
[05:06] <SymGeosis> Mineyo, if not, you may want to check out the wiki and do a search on "repositories"
[05:07] <pc1_> stil have no sound here, can someone help please?
[05:07] <MrBear> hi
[05:07] <MrBear> anybody get ati card tofully work on breezy?
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> pc3, with openoffice, click right on image, copy, paste?
[05:07] <GoClick> !dvd
[05:07] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> MrBear, as in ati drivers?
[05:07] <Stik> If yer on an audigy turn the stupid optical off.. someone isn't thinking...
[05:08] <MrBear> yes
[05:08] <MrBear> I had it working in hoary I didn the same in breezy but no go
[05:08] <pc1_> stil have no sound from this PC here, can someone help please?
[05:09] <MrBear> just make sure your volume is up on alsamixer
[05:09] <Cashel> pc1_, System > Preferences > Multimedia Selector .. change everything from ESD to ALSA
[05:09] <pc1_> yes its up all. but still no sound =)
[05:09] <pc1_> yes its up all. but still no sound =(
[05:09] <pc1_> ok il try
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> MrBear, well it is "Breezy"
[05:09] <nickv111> pc1_: Make sure that your master volume is up AND PCM
[05:09] <Flying-Penguin> bob2:  Removing nvidia-glx ... Removing ubuntu-desktop ... Removing x-window-system-core ... Removing xlibmesa-dri ...
[05:10] <MrBear> sigh
[05:10] <pc1_> ok il try friends
[05:10] <russ> can anyone help me with my microphone feedingback to me with my sblive card?
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> MrBear, about 150 diff patches some days is kinda living on the edge =)
[05:11] <pc3> momasteryoda: no "copy" in right click button. just "view image,copy image location,save image as,send image"
[05:11] <MrBear> well I had video but not sound working in hoary now its the other way around in breezy
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> pc3, so you are edit HTML editor?
[05:11] <MrBear> there is no end
[05:11] <pc3> no
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:12] <pc1_> still no sound came out. maybe ill need to reboot. ok going to reboot...
[05:12] <ksmurf> well it died..... back to hoary for my wife
[05:12] <Damone> anyone can help me about sharing internet conecction w/linux??????
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> pc3, 1.1.4 Openoffice or 2.0 beta?
[05:12] <pc3> its open 2.0 beta
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:13] <spokeydokey> how do I go about setting up my video hardware acceleration?
[05:13] <Cashel> I would be reluctant to tell my girl the name of the os .. "Babe, I think your just right for hoary"
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> pc3, brb in min.
[05:13] <holycow> whoa
[05:13] <pc3> ok, im waiting\
[05:13] <holycow> check out xorg split into modules
[05:13] <holycow> neato!
[05:14] <ksmurf> rofl ... married eght years.... and shes pregnant.  What do I have to lose
[05:14] <Cashel> your pay check?
[05:14] <ksmurf> She gets that already
[05:14] <Cashel> lol
[05:14] <ksmurf> 2700 last week gone in 2 days
[05:15] <Cashel> lol
[05:15] <ksmurf> rofl
[05:15] <duper> join #zaurus
[05:15] <ksmurf> duper
[05:15] <duper> sorry
[05:15] <russ> can anyone help me with my microphone feedingback to me with my sblive card?
[05:16] <holycow> russ, yes
[05:16] <holycow> turn down the volume
[05:16] <holycow> -_-
[05:16] <russ> then it doesn't work.
[05:16] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, still waiting?
[05:16] <holycow> russ, i'm kiddin
[05:16] <holycow> :)
[05:16] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, this is same person
[05:16] <holycow> i donno enough about audi equipment or why it would feedback
[05:16] <nomasteryoda|w> in writer?
[05:17] <Cashel> russ, put the speakers further from the mic :)
[05:17] <holycow> i've NEVER heard of feedback on a pc, the levels simply arent great enough or mics not sensitive enough
[05:17] <nomasteryoda|w> holycow, mine does it if capture is unmuted for mic
[05:17] <russ> Cashel, I don't want what is  going through the mic to come back to my headset
[05:17] <duper> hi all, if there is some good article on how to tweak ubuntu?
[05:17] <Lichte> does postfix in breezy work for anyone ?
[05:17] <Cashel> russ, then disable the mic completely
[05:17] <russ> Cashel, that's how it is now, but im trying to get it to work for teamspeak
[05:18] <holycow> we need an ubunt-dev channel
[05:18] <Cashel> ahhh I see..
[05:18] <holycow> for all the nonsense breezy questions
[05:18] <russ> im on hoary
[05:18] <pc3> yes
[05:18] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[05:18] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, ok
[05:18] <nomasteryoda|w> what type of image?
[05:18] <nomasteryoda|w> jpg, gif, bmp, svg
[05:19] <pc3> i save it as jpg image
[05:19] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[05:19] <punkass> anyone know why there is no php5-mcyrpt package in breezy??
[05:19] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, do you see green squares around image?
[05:19] <bobby> I have samba installed and sharing a folder which it can see (smb:///) and it can see the windows network, though the windows pcs cannot see it.  the only extra package I have installed is samba
[05:19] <duper> and inquire how can i uninstall OpenOffice without hurt the system?
[05:20] <frannnn> hey, i have a problem: i have two users and i need one to have 8bit color resolution, and the other one with 18bit color resolution. how should i do that? (total newbie, by the way)
[05:20] <pc3> nothing
[05:20] <nomasteryoda|w> duper, apt-get remove OpenOffice?
[05:20] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[05:20] <bobby> duper, use synaptic and search for open office, tick anything you want to kill and do it
[05:20] <bobby> no hard :P
[05:21] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3 is it a background image or small image
[05:21] <TheSwami> Hello
[05:22] <nomasteryoda|w> and is document imported MS Word?
[05:22] <nomasteryoda|w> TheSwami, hi
[05:22] <frannnn> hey, i have a problem: i have two users and i need one to have 8bit color resolution, and the other one with 18bit color resolution. how should i do that? (total newbie, by the way)
[05:22] <pc3> yes, i save as in microst word
[05:22] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[05:22] <TheSwami> I was wondering if someone could help me with installation of Ubuntu, Hoary Hedgehog Version.  Im having trouble installing it on my more sophisticated system.
[05:23] <bytefoo> o_O
[05:23] <bobby> ...
[05:23] <Sonny_Wertzik> hi...ask away
[05:23] <setite> ok all.. im off to windows to play some counterstrike
[05:24] <Versed2> thanks
[05:24] <bytefoo> im pretty sure halflife2 runs in cedega
[05:24] <bob2> TheSwami: you need to be a lot more specific about your problem
[05:24] <bytefoo> :/
[05:24] <bytefoo> though battlefield 2...not so much :X
[05:24] <setite> bytefoo, you would be wrong
[05:24] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: you there?
[05:24] <bytefoo> well it works for me
[05:24] <bytefoo> so i guess i live in crazy land :|
[05:24] <setite> bytefoo, it broke on a recent update in the past few days
[05:24] <pc3> is open ofce 2.0 same as 1.1?
[05:24] <pc3> im using ubuntu 5.10
[05:24] <TheSwami> ok, so I have 2 Seagate 250GB drives running with my mobos Promise Raid controller.  I also have windows installed and running already.  I have 80 RAW space set aside for a linux partition, and 20 is already set as EXT3 format.  When installing Ubuntu, it does not see these partitions and I am worried about ereasing whats already there, if I use its RAID config utils
[05:24] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, can you make new document and paste new image?
[05:24] <setite> so unless they fixed it in the last 12 hours... its still broke
[05:24] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, no
[05:24] <bytefoo> hmm
[05:24] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: you there???
[05:25] <setite> you weren't in crazy land... but it broke recently
[05:25] <pc3> ok. i will try. wait
[05:25] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, 2.0 is beta
[05:25] <bytefoo> it's loading for me... :(
[05:25] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: if you have a question, ask it
[05:25] <nomasteryoda|w> as well as 5.10 ubuntu
[05:25] <ksmurf> I'm still alive after telling my she's hoary not beezy or warty
[05:25] <bob2> is it really International Be Annoying On IRC Day?
[05:25] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: well.... when I ran that command of yours... it uninstalled nvidia-glx
[05:25] <ksmurf> lol
[05:25] <ChazZ> that's everyday bob2
[05:25] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: then it didn't work so I rebooted
[05:25] <nomasteryoda|w> bob2, hehe yes i think so
[05:25] <bob2> TheSwami: it's not actual RAID
[05:25] <bytefoo> brb
[05:25] <Sonny_Wertzik> what are the system specs
[05:25] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: then I had to reinstall nvidia-glx
[05:25] <bob2> TheSwami: you'll need to do some fiddling to make linux pretend that it is
[05:25] <setite> whoops wrong date for the breakage
[05:25] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: now I have this error
[05:25] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: wtf
[05:25] <Flying-Penguin> ../tools/sfnt2fnt needs to be built with Freetype support
[05:25] <Flying-Penguin> make[1] : *** [wine_courier-1252-96-13.fnt]  Error 1
[05:25] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: no
[05:26] <pc3> nothing works
[05:26] <setite> well i cant work p2p
[05:26] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: run the command I gave you.  note down what it removes.  compile wine.  reinstall whatever it removed
[05:26] <Versed`> Well so far so good, got my G4 450 up and running under ubuntu, and it recoginized my airport card.  So far so good.
[05:26] <setite> i cant find where to set the export to 32bit libs
[05:26] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I already rebooted
[05:26] <ChazZ> i've got a pretty dumb question, but does ubuntu install grub or lilo on install?
[05:26] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I don't know what it uninstalled
[05:26] <vbgunz> hello everyone!
[05:26] <bytefoo> grub
[05:27] <ChazZ> thanks
[05:27] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: what was that command again?
[05:27] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: um
[05:27] <vbgunz> Anyone know how to replace the Breezy Location bar with an Address bar?
[05:27] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: you're kinda screwed then
[05:27] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: and why on earth did you reboot?
[05:27] <TheSwami> ok, um, any idea what I have to "fiddle" with?  Im open for mucking around, but I dont want to lose whats already on the drives, thats all.  It makes it pretty clear that I may lose whats there if I use the ultilities.
[05:27] <vbgunz> I got it
[05:27] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: recompile didn't work...
[05:27] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, it works fine here
[05:27] <vbgunz> it is still called location
[05:27] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: and why did you reboot?
[05:28] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: you should realy tell me all of this befor you have me run the command and reboot
[05:28] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, right click choose copy and then paste
[05:28] <pc1> i have put all to ALSA in the Multimedia System Selector but still no sound =(
[05:28] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I am a windows user
[05:28] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: when something doesn't work, we reboot
[05:28] <bob2> TheSwami: yes, that sort of pseudo-RAID is really quite flakey like that
[05:28] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: that's dumb
[05:28] <ChazZ> lol
[05:28] <bob2> and I have no sympathy for you
[05:28] <pc3> does it have right-click "copy" in your open 2.0 beta?
[05:28] <nomasteryoda|w> yes
[05:28] <pc3> really?
[05:28] <pc1> any other alternative to have sound? help
[05:28] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: if yo udidn't write down what it reoved, then it's not recorded anywhere
[05:28] <duper> hi, i used apt-get remove --purge and synaptic, but both show me that ubuntu-desktop will be remove also if i kill OO2
[05:28] <vbgunz> but it doesn't stick...  How do I keep it looking like an address bar?
[05:28] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, down at bottom of that menu
[05:29] <Sonny_Wertzik> TheSwami....maybe u should ghost your windows drive and make a disater recovery disk b4 u do anything
[05:29] <pc3> i wonder that mine is none
[05:29] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, did you recently update breezy patches?
[05:29] <TheSwami> ok, thanks bob2 and Sonny_Wertzik, I will try your suggestions
[05:29] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: why didn't you tell me!?
[05:29] <pc3> yes.
[05:29] <pc1> friends, still i dont have an output of sound here in the PC, help me please.
[05:30] <Sonny_Wertzik> i did...and things my work out allright at 1st but linux my not be perfect the 1st install
[05:30] <nomasteryoda|w> I did mine today but have not restarted X... oh great... mine will be broke too ... joy
[05:30] <Sonny_Wertzik> u may want to reinstall it
[05:30] <Russ[] > can anyone help me with my microphone feedingback to me with my sblive card?
[05:30] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: Holy crap!!! I told the people in #winehq what was being uninstalled w00t
[05:30] <nomasteryoda|w> Russ[] , did you try muting it ? terminal alsamixer
[05:31] <Russ[] > I can do that, but then the mic doesn't work.
[05:31] <nomasteryoda|w> ah
[05:31] <nomasteryoda|w> yea
[05:31] <nomasteryoda|w> true
[05:31] <pc1> help. no sound here.
[05:31] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: whats that command again?
[05:31] <nomasteryoda|w> pc1, just hang on
[05:31] <pc3> help , help
[05:31] <pc1> ok =/
[05:31] <Sonny_Wertzik> sound?? what card pc3?
[05:31] <nomasteryoda|w> pc3, did you restart X or reboot after patches?
[05:32] <pc1> i wish i cud u guys someday..i want to be a Ubuntu master too =) so that i can share this nice stuff to my country.
[05:32] <pc3> after  updating the patches. i restart my computer. how can i restart X?
[05:32] <vbgunz> not a big deal I'll just Ctrl+L when I want the location bar :)
[05:32] <Russ[] > pc3 ctrl + alt + backspace
[05:33] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: after I run that command should I restart X?
[05:33] <vbgunz> Anybody have any trouble dual booting XP with Ubuntu with Norton GoBack 4 on Windows?
[05:33] <nomasteryoda|w> Russ[] , thks
[05:33] <ChazZ> has anyone had issues with pcmcia support in breezy?  my graphics card always gives me issues when i change distros on this laptop
[05:33] <nomasteryoda|w> Russ[] , well he did
[05:33] <nomasteryoda|w> ChazZ, you bipolar?
[05:33] <nomasteryoda|w> one or the other
[05:33] <ChazZ> whatever
[05:34] <Tzi> Hi!  I'm using Breezy... TCL seems to have broken on my display, even when running exported from other machines.  It's a problem in /tmp/.X11-unix/X0, with the line '{"*Box.background:\tBACKGROUND\n*'.  Wish reports 'unknown color name "BACKGROUND"' and dies =)
[05:34] <nomasteryoda|w> pcmcia or graphics
[05:34] <Tzi> Any ideas?
[05:34] <ChazZ> it's late i'm tired, nerd juice low
[05:34] <ChazZ> graphics
[05:34] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[05:34] <ChazZ> pcmcia is not the issue
[05:34] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: X has nothing to do with any of this
[05:34] <nomasteryoda|w> ChazZ, what card
[05:34] <ChazZ> ati ...
[05:34] <bob2> windows users have very disturbed views on computers
[05:34] <ChazZ> crap slips my mind
[05:34] <ChazZ> one sec
[05:35] <Octane> grr i hate how gam_Server randomly takes up 100% cpu
[05:35] <nomasteryoda|w> ChazZ, not an issue at least here... ubuntu ati drivers working very fine
[05:35] <ChazZ> alright
[05:35] <SlicerDicer> is anybody familar with problems on ubuntu with nvidia drivers not giving their graphics card full speed, nvidia kernel and nvidia glx are installed just fine
[05:35] <ChazZ> knoppix and debian give me trouble
[05:35] <pc1> <== waiting for donations of help for soundcard issue,lol.
[05:35] <vbgunz> Bob2 I heard you mention restarting is bad for Windows. Yesterday I installed an Nvidia driver and "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" OR "sudo init 1" "sudo init *" worked. I had to restart to see the changes
[05:35] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: but after I ran that command befor the compile didn't work
[05:36] <bob2> vbgunz: yes, you're poking the kerel, that can require a reboot
[05:36] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: infact it came to error MUCH faster
[05:36] <nomasteryoda|w> pc1, card type?
[05:36] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: and it still does
[05:36] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: oh wow that is awesome omg lolz
[05:36] <nomasteryoda|w> sorry
[05:36] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: refering to an "error" is useless
[05:36] <pc1> ahm, let me see...wait...
[05:36] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I am sorry if I am stupid... what should I do?
[05:36] <pc1> Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[05:36] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: you need to show the full error message in #flood or on the web everytime you even think of mentioning an "error"
[05:36] <vbgunz> ahh... is there other kind of reboot like "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" OR "sudo init *" that might have worked?
[05:37] <misterdiff> hi all. how do i upgrade my kernel package? i'd like to recompile my kernel to the latest one but its not in /usr/src/linux. that dir doesn't even exist
[05:37] <bob2> vbgunz: they're not reboots of any sort
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> ac97 controllers are ok IMHO
[05:37] <bob2> vbgunz: if you were only adding the nvidia binary driver, not changing any agp settings, it may have been possible to avoid a reboot
[05:37] <SlicerDicer> bob2: you around still?
[05:37] <vbgunz> yup, i still have learning to do :)
[05:37] <bob2> SlicerDicer: no
[05:37] <pc1> but why i dont kahve sound? =(
[05:37] <bob2> I have an interview
[05:37] <SlicerDicer> bob2: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-September/047594.html take a look at that I am not out of my gord
[05:38] <snowwoolf> Hi all.  I'm trying to get a software RAID 1+0 setup, but the 5.10 installer doesn't seem to permit it.  Any suggestions?
[05:38] <jblack> bob2: Good luck!
[05:38] <nomasteryoda|w> !esd
[05:38] <ubotu> esd is, like, Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.
[05:38] <bob2> jblack: thanks :)
[05:39] <jblack> bob2: If you want to tell your interviewer that you have american friends that are willing to call the whitehouse and support a carpet-bombing run if they don't hire you....
[05:39] <pc1> i dont understand. so what shall i do?
[05:39] <bob2> jblack: hahahahahaha
[05:39] <pc10> helpppp,,,,command line for changing resolution 1024x768
[05:39] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I put it in #flood
[05:39] <bob2> pc10: please stop it
[05:40] <Madpilot> !tell pc10 about fixres
[05:40] <pc10> why
[05:40] <pc1> paita ani oi! matay.
[05:40] <bob2> pc10: you've gone beyond being annoying into some sort of meta level of irritatingness
[05:40] <nomasteryoda|w> pc1, did you see this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753&highlight=Add+Sound+Card
[05:40] <pc1> inatay ani oi
[05:40] <bob2> it's like you've ascended
[05:40] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[05:40] <bob2> pc1: english or leave, sorry
[05:40] <nomasteryoda|w> violet level
[05:40] <pc1> ok, just say something to pc10
[05:40] <pc1> its ok
[05:40] <pc10> tell me the site, i did not note it. sorry
[05:40] <pc1> ok sorry
[05:40] <pc1> its our language by the way
[05:41] <pc1> nomasteryoda|w- ok il try
[05:41] <vbgunz> anyone here have any experience with creating a boot disc for Ubuntu?  I cannot seem to install Ubuntu onto it... At least it doesn't start up
[05:42] <bob2> SlicerDicer: that or file a bug so it could be fixed
[05:42] <SlicerDicer> bob2: it seems to be a breezy problem
[05:42] <pc1> haha.ok. just want to tell a little to pc10.ok.
[05:42] <bob2> narg: tagalog != spanish
[05:42] <snowwoolf> Is this the channel to ask for help with Ubuntu's RAID support?
[05:42] <narg> tagalog?
[05:42] <bob2> pc1: I'm serious, you're being very disruptive
[05:42] <bob2> snowwoolf: "software raid"
[05:42] <pc1> nope, tagalog is very different to spanish
[05:42] <bob2> snowwoolf: and if no one here knows, try the ubuntu-users list
[05:42] <vbgunz> I apologize, a boot disc to boot into a USB drive is my search... I keep pulling circles on google about it... Is it possible or not?
[05:42] <narg> Oh, I only saw one line of it, it looked similar to spanish to me
[05:42] <narg> sorry ;)
[05:42] <nomasteryoda|w> bob2, what is the kick command here?
[05:43] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[05:43] <jsgotangco> if you need tagalog support, go to #ubuntu-ph
[05:43] <bob2> vbgunz: your bios can't do it?
[05:43] <snowwoolf> thanks bob2
[05:43] <SlicerDicer> bob2: its already on the mailing list I am sure bugs have been filed
[05:43] <pc1> wow! is there a tagalog support there?
[05:43] <pc1> is it true?
[05:43] <bob2> SlicerDicer: go check
[05:43] <bob2> pc1: why don't you just have a look?
[05:43] <pc1> fine
[05:43] <SlicerDicer> bob2: umm no?
[05:43] <vbgunz> my bios doesn't seem to boot the USB device and when I went inside the BIOS setup it doesn't even seem to support it :(
[05:44] <bob2> SlicerDicer: right, so it may never be fixed then
[05:44] <Madpilot> vbgunz: is there a more up-to-date version of your BIOS you can flash in?
[05:44] <jsgotangco> pc1, indeed
[05:45] <vbgunz> not sure... I have an OEM Emachine... They haven't released an update since I bought it...
[05:45] <SlicerDicer> bob2: what on this green earth would make you think I would even like to help given how you treated me over something that was a bug with the system.... You were a asshole to me in a round about way saying I was not knowing what I was doing...
[05:45] <vbgunz> about less than a year ago
[05:45] <pc1> oh jsgotangco, i hav read ur post about the raid here in the Philippines =)
[05:45] <bob2> SlicerDicer: wtf
[05:45] <nomasteryoda|w> yes, i think we have hit a lowpoint tonight bob2
[05:45] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[05:45] <drapelyk> anyone free to help a noob use OpenSSH?
[05:45] <SlicerDicer> bob2: shall I pull my logs and paste it to rafb what you said so you can have your memory jogged?
[05:45] <bob2> SlicerDicer: I don't care if nvidia drivers work in ubuntu. at all.  you do.  if you want it to work for you in breezy (which comes out in 3 weeks), you need to report the issue.
[05:45] <jsgotangco> pc1, on planet? cool
[05:45] <nomasteryoda|w> time to play bzflag.. nn
[05:46] <concept10> SlicerDicer: the earth is blue, check google
[05:46] <bob2> SlicerDicer: I have my own logs
[05:46] <bob2> drapelyk: best to just ask your question
[05:46] <vbgunz> What happened? I just installed Nvidia drivers yesterday... It seemed to work after a system reboot
[05:46] <vbgunz> much better than when I first booted in
[05:46] <SlicerDicer> concept10: ahh depends on if you have colorblindness like I do :P
[05:46] <bob2> SlicerDicer: I'm sorry if you're unhappy with me, but not reporting it screws you, not me
[05:46] <drapelyk> bob2 rgr that... I'm trying to use the tunneling (port forwarding) features of OpenSSH and I don't know where to start
[05:46] <bob2> I have no affiliation with ubuntu
[05:46] <bob2> hurting it does not hurt me
[05:47] <ryan_> can anyone help me with mp4 support?
[05:47] <bob2> drapelyk: ssh -Llocalport:destinationaddress:destinationport user@remotemachine
[05:47] <vbgunz> bob2 don't freak, I like your insight
[05:47] <SlicerDicer> bob2: what the hell do  you have operator powers for then? shall I report that to ubuntu how you were treating people today so your stripped of operator powers?
[05:47] <miller> hi everybody
[05:47] <bob2> drapelyk: localport will need to be above 1024 unless you run it with sudo
[05:47] <pc3> have does really works
[05:47] <drapelyk> oh does that steadily work for an application?
[05:48] <miller> i try to listen mp3 in xmms but it doesnt work
[05:48] <drapelyk> *how
[05:48] <drapelyk> I'm trying to use IRC at school
[05:48] <vbgunz> Slicer Operator powers doesn't entitle bob2 to *need* to support anyone
[05:48] <concept10> SlicerDicer: whats your problem
[05:48] <pc3> in copying image in open office pls help me
[05:48] <drapelyk> 6667 is closed
[05:48] <ryan_> I know there are mp4 plugins, but I can't seem to install them in BMP or XMMS
[05:48] <pestilence> hal is going crazy on my machine.  what do i do?
[05:48] <pestilence> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2096
[05:48] <Madpilot> !tell miller about mp3
[05:48] <miller> i can only play ogg, what must i do to play mp3???
[05:48] <pestilence> !hal
[05:48] <ubotu> HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) is a library and daemon to get hotplug notifications as hardware is added and removed. KDE uses it for its media:/ kioslave
[05:49] <kailer> hey everyone
[05:49] <miller> madpilot thanks i go to se it
[05:49] <vbgunz> hello
[05:49] <xTina> drapelyk: it will work if you have a machine outside and if there's a way of getting tcp connections out on a port and you are able to run an ssh server on that same port on your outside machine.
[05:50] <SlicerDicer> concept10: vbgunz but it does not give him a right to be a asshole.... I showed him a link to prove that it was not my fault and what do I get a sarcastic remark back come on that aint cool at all you have to admit... actually direct to the point several people asked if he was always this hostile
[05:50] <kailer> anyone familar with kaffeine?
[05:50] <bob2> SlicerDicer: I never ever claimed it was your fault
[05:50] <bob2> and Im normally not drowning in silliness like this, no
[05:50] <Madpilot> kailer: nobody on #kubuntu again?
[05:50] <bob2> I should have left hours ago, but I have an odd desire to stoppeople doing silly things
[05:50] <kailer> yep
[05:51] <vbgunz> I don't remember him ever being hostile, bob2 has been a great help. I am sorry if you feel wronged but I can not take a side. I am unsure of what is happening. I guess calm down and try to rethink the whole situation?
[05:52] <SlicerDicer> bob2: I guess you are incapable of admiting you were hostile and rude I will leave it at that
[05:52] <jdermer> hey
[05:52] <jdermer> i got a question about the mac version of ubuntu
[05:52] <jdermer> i just bought an old imac g3 on ebay and i was wondering if ubuntu would work on iy
[05:52] <Xenguy> SlicerDicer: if you were aware of the incredible amount of support that bob2 does, you would step down right now
[05:52] <bob2> SlicerDicer: I was rude, yes, and annoyed at you for being silly
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> SlicerDicer, like bob2 said... we are volunteers... period.
[05:52] <bob2> SlicerDicer: I never claimed your problem was your fault
[05:53] <SlicerDicer> Xenguy: I am not impressed
[05:53] <miller> madpilot i dont have gstreamer0.8-mad in synaptic :(
[05:53] <bob2> SlicerDicer: I've suggested a number of potential ways to fix it
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> people get irked at times... life goes on
[05:53] <jdermer> anyone?
[05:53] <Xenguy> SlicerDicer: then be more tolerant - support can frustrate the best of people.  Trust me, bob2 is good people most of the time :-)
[05:53] <Madpilot> miller: you need to have the Universe repo enabled
[05:53] <bob2> SlicerDicer: filing a bug is about all that's left; you nor I know what the problem is, so at least reporting that it exists means someone who knows more might figure it out
[05:54] <Madpilot> !tell miller about repos
[05:54] <SlicerDicer> bob2: well that is what I am doing right now actually :)
[05:54] <bob2> SlicerDicer: good
[05:54] <bob2> I'm sorry you took this personally
[05:54] <nomasteryoda> bob2, true... which will help the whole effort and make Ubuntu better for all
[05:54] <bob2> yes
[05:54] <jdermer> ...
[05:55] <bob2> jdermer: yes, it will, as the website says
[05:55] <jdermer> where
[05:55] <bob2> and now that I'm going to be stripped of my op hat, I shall leave
[05:55] <bob2> good luck, all
[05:55] <jdermer> like is there sys requirements or the like
[05:55] <vbgunz> Slicer if you're more familiar with Windows, you should use it if you need some mission critical operations completed on a deadline. If you're new to Linux, take your time otherwising rushing into it might do more harm than good. Plus if you're new, you don't need to burn any potential bridges bro...
[05:55] <jdermer> im lovin ubuntu on my pc btw heh
[05:55] <silverton> How can I be positive that my nvidia video card drivers got installed correctly?
[05:55] <silverton> I see the nvidia splash screen when the X server starts
[05:56] <vbgunz> Yeah, Breezy is cool. I am enjoying it. It had my support for my PC than Hoary did...
[05:56] <ApesMa> Moving my wife from FC3 to Hoary Hedgehog, and having trouble importing Mozilla email into Thunderbird. Files go over into .mozilla-thunderbird, and thunderbird shows accounts, but won't show folders or messages. What am I overlooking?
[05:56] <miller> madpilot it's my first day using linux(ubuntu) thanks by the help man ;)
[05:56] <SlicerDicer> vbgunz: umm I am by no means new to linux :)
[05:56] <bob2> silverton: wiki.ubuntu.com/binaryDriverHowto
[05:56] <jdermer> bob2, where on the site does it talk about it
[05:56] <Madpilot> miller: no problem - good luck, and welcome to the Light Side... ;)
[05:56] <bob2> jdermer: in the ports section, presumably
[05:56] <vbgunz> Slicer, I am. I just thought I pass on some good advice ;)
[05:56] <miller> the real world ;)
[05:56] <bob2> I'm not really in a mood to trawl the website for you
[05:56] <Xenguy> Madpilot: no no, this is the *Dark* side :-]
[05:57] <Madpilot> Xenguy: you haven't used Windows lately, have you? ;)
[05:57] <luckyaba> anyone know why a webcam would appear grey when viewing in gnome meeting
[05:57] <Xenguy> heh
[05:57] <ApesMa> Xenguy: don't get confused by the brown wallpaper. :)
[05:57] <silverton> bob2, that is the page I used, but tuxracer lags a bit, and I know it shouldn't
[05:57] <jdermer> bob2, which is where... lol
[05:57] <concept10> SlicerDicer: I don't know what was said but, you shouldnt get easily offended.  bob2 offers alot a help to many people everyday
[05:58] <SlicerDicer> ok I will pull it out for you guys what he said give me a few mins yeash
[05:58] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: I have to go
[05:58] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: thank you for the help!!!!
[05:58] <concept10> SlicerDicer: not interested, just drop it!
[05:58] <SlicerDicer> well you guys are dragging it out
[05:58] <SlicerDicer> jesus
[05:58] <SlicerDicer> back down leave it be
[05:59] <SlicerDicer> I am trying to file a god damn bug report
[05:59] <Xenguy> Madpilot ApesMa I usually refer to *nix as the 'Dark Side' because of the idea of 'daemons', command-line 'invocations', and so on :-)
[06:00] <hooded> Hey guys
[06:00] <ApesMa> Xenguy: :)
[06:00] <Xenguy> SlicerDicer: yep, better the bug report :-)
[06:00] <hooded> Can someone help me out i just have a small question
[06:00] <Madpilot> Xenguy: heh. "Linux: the Daemonic Operating System!" - that'll get some people excited...
[06:00] <silverton> hooded, just ask :P
[06:00] <Xenguy> Madpilot: hey, I *like* that
[06:00] <hooded> When i click mark for installation on synaptic Azureus
[06:01] <hooded> it says that it will remove mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[06:01] <hooded> and also will uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[06:02] <silverton> hooded, weird, doesn't happen to me
[06:02] <tamarack> it's not a big problem if it un-installs ubuntu-desktop though
[06:02] <tamarack> it's just a dummy package
[06:02] <hooded> Yeah i cant get apt-get to work with bittorrent
[06:02] <tamarack> it won't actually do anything
[06:02] <hooded> i mean azureus
[06:02] <tamarack> the mozilla thing is strange though
[06:02] <hooded> It says use apt-get install -f
[06:02] <tamarack> I've never gotten then when installing azureus
[06:02] <tamarack> then=that
[06:03] <silverton> hooded, did you manually download the azureus package?
[06:03] <hooded> i understood
[06:03] <hooded> No.
[06:03] <Madpilot> hooded: checking Azureus for installation here doesn't cause any "<foo> will be deleted" messages - you using Hoary or Breezy?
[06:03] <silverton> or did you get it from a repository?
[06:03] <hooded> i did manually install java 1.5 update 4
[06:03] <tamarack> maybe you have the repositories setup incorrectly and it has the wrong dependencies?
[06:04] <hooded> first of all... i dont know what repositories are or dependencies
[06:04] <miller> madpilot i'm downloading universe repo thanks man :)
[06:04] <tamarack> ah
[06:04] <hooded> yeah sorry
[06:04] <tamarack> np
[06:04] <hooded> i should have read a lot more before coming here
[06:05] <tamarack> no worries
[06:05] <hooded> This is quite easy though, i mean i got Mplayer to work quite quickly
[06:05] <silverton> hooded, www.ubuntuguide.com/.org   I forget
[06:05] <silverton> helped me quite a bit
[06:05] <gigaclon> hooded, wiki.ubuntu.com too
[06:06] <gigaclon> !ubuntuguide
[06:06] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[06:06] <gigaclon> !faq
[06:06] <ubotu> faq is probably The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[06:06] <hooded> yeah silverton accually thats what i tried first
[06:06] <Octane> if im upgrading my hoary to breezy... what's the best way to do this? via init 1?
[06:06] <snowwoolf> bob2: I checked the forums, and it sounds like there are a lot of issues with software RAIDs.  I'm trying out using LVM to combine two RAID 0s.
[06:07] <Madpilot> miller: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation <-- central point for (most) of the Howtos for Ubuntu
[06:07] <cafuego> Octane: Why would you do that? Why not just dist-upgrade and then reboot when the new kernel is installed?
[06:07] <Octane> cafuego: from what ive heard you shouldnt dist-upgrade from within an init 6 when doing a giagantic upgrade
[06:08] <miller> madpilot thanks a millino man ;)
[06:09] <cafuego> Octane: You were told wrong. Also, Ubuntu doesn't run in ruvlevel 6, but in 2. 6 is 'reboot'
[06:09] <hooded> could i just use dpkg -i to install azureus?
[06:09] <Octane> cafuego: sorry i dont know my run levels
[06:09] <cafuego> Octane: just dist-upgrade. At worst you'll need to logout and back in.
[06:09] <Octane> cafuego: so i can just dist-upgrade from a regular ole Konsole (even though its upgrading over 600 packages) and then reboot
[06:09] <nickv111> I believe 5 is what ubuntu runs in
[06:10] <cafuego> No, 2.
[06:10] <nickv111> Oh
[06:10] <nickv111> I'm a little rusty on my runlevels as well
[06:10] <juhno> hi
[06:10] <nickv111> All I know really is that 6 == reboot, 0 == shutdown, and S == Single user
[06:10] <alexandros> I am having siund issues
[06:11] <cafuego> Octane: Yep. Well, you reboot IF there is a new kernel. I'm not sure it would pull in 2.6.12 byd efault.
[06:11] <cafuego> Octane: if it does _not_ install a new kernel, just logout from X, then login again.
[06:11] <Octane> cafuego: great thanks
[06:11] <Octane> i want the new kernel anyway sinc ei think itll make my wireless card work :)
[06:11] <alexandros> can someone help me? mp3 can be heard but divx and flash based games can't be heard
[06:11] <cafuego> nickv111: grep default /etc/inittab
[06:12] <nickv111> cafuego: Meh. Too lazy and no need
[06:12] <pc1> hi
[06:12] <silverton> :O  Updating to Breezy is a 1131 package process >.<
[06:12] <cafuego> True, you have an all-knowing cafuego at your disposal ;-)
[06:12] <nickv111> Of course
[06:12] <nickv111> cafuego is a walking man page, like everyone else on IRC
[06:12] <pc1> can someone here know how to install the windows based yahoo messenger?
[06:12] <silverton> cafuego is always
[06:13] <nickv111> Time for bed
[06:13] <nickv111> G'night
[06:13] <Octane> nickv111: lol i know!
[06:13] <silverton> er, wtf?
[06:13] <silverton> s/always/awesome
[06:13] <Burgundavia> pc1, gaim (which is installed by defualt) can communicate with yahoo
[06:14] <Xenguy> pc1: wrong channel for that question; you will be /ignored by most people very soon I expect if you continue <shrug>
[06:14] <qmanman> anyone know of a BT client for linux other than azureus ?
[06:14] <Octane> qmanman: KTorrent
[06:14] <qmanman> Qt based?
[06:14] <Octane> yes
[06:14] <pc1> but it has no pre installed chat rooms like the yahoo window based, thts why i must use yahoo for the customers . cos im using Ubuntu
[06:14] <Octane> you want command line?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> !bittorrent
[06:14] <ubotu> hmm... bittorrent is at <reply> The BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[06:14] <hooded> bittornado
[06:14] <pc1> Im using Ubuntu
[06:14] <pc1> thts why i asked here
[06:14] <qmanman> Octane: command line would be cool
 bittornado
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> There is a Linux version of the Yahoo Chat program
[06:15] <pc1> but the linux version has no pre installed chat rooms
[06:15] <Xenguy> pc1: using Ubuntu is one thing; asking how to install Windows software is another, yes?
[06:15] <pc1> and this Ubuntu has wine
[06:15] <Xenguy> pc1: try /join #winehq
[06:15] <pc1> so i like to use wine to install Yahoo M
[06:15] <pc1> ok ok
[06:15] <pc1> il try
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> pc1,  actually I think it uses a slightly different interface. it can get to the chat rooms
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> You will not be able to use wine and Yahoo messenger I think.
[06:16] <miller> madpilot i'm listening mp3 right now i will go to install video codecs thanks for all man :)
[06:17] <pc1> why dr willis?
[06:17] <hooded> whats this mean, the following packages have unmet dependencies
[06:17] <[Chameleon] > hooded: means you need to install the stuff listed there first.
[06:18] <[Chameleon] > hooded: before what you're trying to install will work.
[06:18] <hooded> right it says i dont have java installed
[06:18] <Stik> Means yer in package manager hell
[06:18] <hooded> and its saying i dont
[06:18] <Xenguy> !java
[06:18] <ubotu> [java]  to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:18] <[Chameleon] > Xenguy: gracias
[06:18] <Xenguy> [Chameleon] : yw
[06:19] <hooded> thanks.
[06:21] <hooded> so if i have already installed java 1.5 will i have to uninstall it?
[06:21] <_smd_> if you installed it..you obviously did not install it properly...
[06:22] <_smd_> And, I suppose java in a terminal does nothing?
[06:22] <_smd_> do java -version
[06:22] <chizang> if i want to go from hoary to breezy, is it as simple as s/hoary/breezy/g in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:22] <hooded> okay hold on
[06:22] <chizang> and then doing an apt-get update/dist-upgrade?
[06:22] <hooded> <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:22] <_smd_> chizang: yes. If you cant wait...
[06:22] <chizang> (with the caveat that breezy is in preview only, of course)
[06:22] <hooded> haha i rock i did install it
[06:22] <_smd_> hooded: well, what then, tho?
[06:22] <_smd_> hooded: ya, good work...
[06:23] <hooded> im screwed?
[06:23] <_smd_> nono, whats not working?
[06:23] <chizang> _smd_, yeah, i'm running ubuntu on an asus pundit-r and breezy has an updated video driver that will enable the tv out
[06:23] <hooded> i dont understand why azureus wont apt-get
[06:23] <_smd_> hooded: neither do I...whats the error?
[06:23] <meng> is there a wiki for x problems after upgrading from hoary to breezy?
[06:24] <hooded> wrong dependencies
[06:25] <_smd_> hooded: please psate the whole error to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:25] <hooded>  azureus: Depends: libcommons-cli-java but it is not going to be installed           Depends: liblog4j1.2-java but it is not going to be installed
[06:25] <hooded>            Depends: libseda-java but it is not going to be installed
[06:25] <hooded>            Depends: libswt-gtk-3.1-java but it is not going to be installed  mozilla-firefox-gnome-support: Depends: firefox-gnome-support but it is not going to be installed
[06:25] <hooded> Sorry for flooding
[06:25] <alexandros> have anyone had the problem of their sound not being consistant?
[06:25] <_smd_> hooded: did I say here?
[06:25] <meng> i am having issues with x and HID devices control after upgrading to breezy
[06:26] <hooded> what smd?
[06:26] <hooded> did i say here what?
[06:26] <_smd_> did I say paste here? dont paste here. just annoying for other conversations...
[06:26] <hooded> oh im sorry
[06:27] <Madpilot> !paste
[06:27] <ubotu> paste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:27] <_smd_> hooded: how did you install java?
[06:27] <hooded> dpkg -i
[06:28] <_smd_> hooded: and where did you get the .deb?
[06:28] <whyameye> I'm trying to recall alternative Windowing environments to Gnome and KDE which take up less resources for older machines...
[06:28] <hooded> umm hold on
[06:28] <meng> xfce
[06:29] <meng> fluxbox
[06:29] <meng> no desktop?
[06:29] <Madpilot> !tell hooded about java
[06:29] <whyameye> meng, thanks. Those were the two names I was trying to remember...
[06:29] <Madpilot> hooded: see that page, it's got the easiest Java-install method...
[06:29] <hooded> yeah but i already installed it
[06:29] <hooded> ...
[06:29] <_smd_> hooded: while you are at it...also paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the paste.ubuntulinux.nl site.
[06:30] <Madpilot> hooded: except it's not working? what happens when you type "man java" at a prompt?
[06:30] <hooded> hold on mad
[06:30] <_smd_> Madpilot: it works when he java -version/..
[06:30] <miller> madpilot i can play mp3 and videos now thanks man :)
[06:30] <_smd_> that is the list of repositories your apt-get knows about. also, are you now again installing with dpkg -i, hooded?
[06:31] <Madpilot> _smd_: OK - I must have missed that further up - sorry
[06:31] <Madpilot> miller: you're welcome
[06:31] <drapelyk> can anyone help me with a portforwarding session using SSH?
[06:31] <_smd_> Madpilot: thats cool...its me dabaR at a friend's place...
[06:31] <winner> what happened to naim? it doesn't work anymore?
[06:31] <hooded> smd i got my repositories from, the unoffical ubuntuguide
[06:31] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[06:31] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[06:31] <Madpilot> !repos
[06:31] <ubotu> I guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:31] <hooded> and im trying to use apt-get to download azureus
[06:32] <_smd_> hooded: there is a official ubuntuguide?;)
[06:32] <winner> naim doesn't connect anymore
[06:32] <winner> for some reason
[06:32] <meng> is there a guide to upgrading issues in breezy
[06:32] <drapelyk> Anyone: why when using port forwarding do I get my SSH version number and OS info when trying to use a browser??
[06:33] <_smd_> hooded: ok, here is what you will do...
[06:33] <meng>  meng: i am siding the unofficial guide, the fella is my fellow countrymen
[06:33] <drapelyk> anyone have a solution?
[06:33] <hooded> what?
[06:33] <_smd_> sudo dpkg -P javapackagenameyouinstalled.
[06:33] <hooded> okay
[06:33] <_smd_> no . also, then you will post your sources.list as I said, so I can tell you what to comment out.
[06:33] <_smd_> THen I will tell you further.
[06:34] <qmanman> wow whoever mentioned bittornado a bit ago: thanks!
[06:34] <drapelyk> can someone help me with an SSH tunnel?
[06:34] <hooded> me... thanks
[06:34] <ksmurf> if I do a fresh install of hoary then change my repos to breezy and smartupgade through synaptic do u thing the update will work?
[06:34] <hooded> i cant get azureus to work but... yeah im gald yours is
[06:34] <_smd_> hooded: go with what I told you, it will work in a few minutes...
[06:35] <ksmurf> hooded it has something to do with the open java sources
[06:35] <drapelyk> Anyone: why when using port forwarding do I get my SSH version number and OS info when trying to use a browser??
[06:35] <qmanman> hooded: yeah azurues worked good for me, great app, but too much memory use
[06:35] <meng> ksmurf: my whole x is screwed up after dist-upgrade
[06:35] <hooded> hey smd
[06:35] <qmanman> meng: dist-upgrade from hoary?
[06:35] <_smd_> hooded: ya, gona do that?
[06:35] <hooded> what if i dont remembe what the package name was?
[06:36] <meng> qmanman: yup
[06:36] <_smd_> then... aptitude search sun
[06:36] <qmanman> meng: same here, had to fresh install with the preview disk
[06:36] <hooded> okay i download it into my home folder
[06:36] <_smd_> post that and your sources.list to the pastebin page.
[06:36] <qmanman> meng: totally borked on me last night
[06:36] <FhaeTon> Hello
[06:36] <Madpilot> hooded: tab completion is your friend - type the first part of your title, then hit TAB and see
[06:36] <ksmurf> meng I am doing the update throught synaptic ...... I'm doing it because my wireless and video died in breezy but work in hoary
[06:36] <FhaeTon> I'm new to Linux
[06:36] <FhaeTon> don't know anything
[06:36] <pc1> does wine in this Hedgehug Ubuntu the wine in WIneHQ?
[06:37] <Xenguy> FhaeTon: congrats - a good place to start :-)
[06:37] <hooded> _smd_ i downloaded it into my homefolder for it to dpkg
[06:37] <nalioth> ksmurf: your system will return
[06:37] <_smd_> drapelyk: read ubotu's ask factoid.
[06:37] <drapelyk> where?
[06:37] <Xenguy> pc1: same software, yes
[06:37] <FhaeTon> thats why I'm here
[06:37] <ksmurf> nalioth return?
[06:37] <pc1> i see.nice
[06:37] <_smd_> hooded: please follow instructions. open a terminal, aptitude search sun
[06:37] <FhaeTon> UI've never used a pc before
[06:37] <nalioth> ksmurf: breezy is in heavy update mode, what's broken today, will be fixed soon
[06:37] <_smd_> FhaeTon: stop the intro, and ask.
[06:38] <FhaeTon> I'm buildong my first Pc
[06:38] <FhaeTon> http://homepage.mac.com/jymac/The_FhaeTon_Project/PhotoAlbum31.html
[06:38] <hooded> how do i do, aptitude search sun
[06:38] <FhaeTon> I'm typo prone
[06:38] <Xenguy> FhaeTon: riiiiighhhht
[06:38] <drapelyk> Why am I getting my SSH version and os version when using an SSH tunnel and browser?
[06:38] <FhaeTon> what
[06:38] <ksmurf> k nanolith ... my breezy seems rock stable. my wife is the one that is screwed
[06:38] <FhaeTon> I'm serious
[06:39] <ksmurf> her system that is
[06:39] <FhaeTon> I'm here to lok for help
[06:39] <bruno> i m going as weel
[06:39] <bruno> bye
[06:39] <hooded> _smd_ got it
[06:39] <Xenguy> FhaeTon: OK, ask
[06:39] <FhaeTon> I and make friends
[06:39] <bruno> night
[06:39] <_smd_> drapelyk: more info, please...tell us the browser, exact procedure and stuff if you want help.
[06:39] <FhaeTon> I haven't built it yet
[06:39] <FhaeTon> waiting for a few more parts
[06:39] <meng> but in the mean time, should i just nuke ubuntu off or there's a way to fix it
[06:39] <_smd_> hooded: now, sudo dpkg -P packageName
[06:39] <hooded> okay
[06:39] <hooded> which one
[06:39] <_smd_> hooded: does it have an i on the left beside the package?
[06:40] <FhaeTon> some gaming freinds helped me pick the parts
[06:40] <FhaeTon> Xenguy
[06:40] <_smd_> FhaeTon: please keep your posts to questions about what to do.
[06:40] <hooded> _smd_ an "i"
[06:40] <FhaeTon> will I hear good things about linux
[06:40] <FhaeTon> oh
[06:41] <hooded> i dont see one sorry... i do see some different jave packages though
[06:41] <Xenguy> FhaeTon: do you have a question though?
[06:41] <FhaeTon> question#1
[06:41] <hooded> 1.5debian
[06:41] <_smd_> hooded: ok, now, let us do the pastebin thing, k?
[06:41] <FhaeTon>  whats the best distro for SLI support
[06:41] <FhaeTon> game support
[06:42] <_smd_> hooded: click: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:42] <ksmurf> phaeTon XP... the security suck though
[06:42] <FhaeTon> I don't want xp
[06:42] <_smd_> hooded: paste the output of that aptitude search there.
[06:42] <FhaeTon> no alternatioves
[06:42] <drapelyk> k, I am using firefox with proxy localhost:1234, with a putty PF "ssh -L1234:<IP_ADDRESS>:22 drapleyk@ubuntuserv
[06:42] <_smd_> FhaeTon: dont ask about what distro is best in #ubuntu...
[06:42] <hooded> okay
[06:42] <FhaeTon> ok
[06:42] <_smd_> FhaeTon: what do you think people will say? gentoo?
[06:42] <FhaeTon> so does unbuntu have sli support
[06:43] <FhaeTon> I'm learning man take it easy
[06:43] <ksmurf> phaeTon XP... If you want a gaming system the playstation or Xbox will do.  If you want a system that you can do somthing with then your at the right spot
[06:43] <hooded> _smd_
[06:43] <FhaeTon> I told you I don't know what im doing
[06:43] <hooded> i got it
[06:43] <snausages> hm, I get no sound with Music Player but xmms plays my oggs fine
[06:43] <snausages> what's the deal
[06:43] <FhaeTon> ok
[06:43] <hooded> _smd_ http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2097
[06:44] <ksmurf> snagusages... have you installed the codecs?
[06:44] <FhaeTon> I want to learn what it takes to install
[06:44] <andyfg> hey people... i need a little bit of help.. im a little new to linux and all, but I just installed ubuntu and i'm trying to get my ALPS touchpad driver to function correctly. in the installation documentation it says i have to use the "make" command. But the problem is... the terminal does not recognize this command
[06:44] <FhaeTon> what do I have to learn first
[06:44] <_smd_> thanks. now, cat /etc/apt/sources.list, and paste that there too. also, sudo aptitude install azureus, and paste that as well.
[06:44] <andyfg> does anybody know why? or can anyboyd help me out?
[06:44] <Xenguy> ksmurf: gaming *is* possible on linux you know ;-)
[06:44] <nalioth> !tell FhaeTon about cli
[06:44] <snausages> ksmurf, i believe i have. i ran one of the automatic scripts suggeste din the forum
[06:44] <_smd_> FhaeTon: no taking it easy:)
[06:44] <ksmurf> Xenguy ... do tell
[06:45] <_smd_> gotta tell you the fact, and dont have the time to sugar coat.
[06:45] <andyfg> any ideas plzzz
[06:45] <andyfg> im really stuck
[06:45] <whyameye> andyfg, I find it hard to believe you don't have 'make.' Type 'which make' in the terminal and tell us what you get...
[06:45] <andyfg> because without this command I can't connect to the internet or use my mouse properly
[06:46] <andyfg> okay just give me a sec i have to restart
[06:46] <Xenguy> ksmurf: I'm not a big gamer at all, but even I have see evidence like this -> http://frankscorner.org/  ...
[06:46] <FhaeTon> Ok do I study that and come back?
[06:46] <hooded> _smd_ http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2098
[06:46] <Xenguy> not to mention games that actually run natively on linux, and not to mention 'cedega' either, so please... "XP" ???
[06:46] <FhaeTon> I hate the word
[06:46] <FhaeTon> Xp
[06:47] <FhaeTon> don't say that
[06:47] <_smd_> hooded: thanks, and the other one? the sudo aptitude install azureus?
[06:47] <shik45> VMWARE
[06:47] <hooded> its doing it right now _smd_
[06:47] <miller> people i have a partion (ntfs) mounted (hda5)
[06:47] <FhaeTon> hey does CLi = shell
[06:47] <lakcaj> Instead of MS Longhorn, I though maybe MS Stillborn.  Feel free to use that one ;)
[06:48] <miller> and i can see files butd don't open
[06:48] <hooded> _smd_ building package list?
[06:48] <meng> lakcaj: it's Vista now
[06:48] <miller> how can i open int
[06:48] <nalioth> FhaeTon: yes, cli = shell input
[06:48] <FhaeTon> yeah
[06:48] <lakcaj> Yeah I know, but that doesn't work with my stillborn play on words ;)
[06:48] <FhaeTon> ok whats next
[06:48] <Andyfg> ok im back
[06:48] <Andyfg> ill try it out right now
[06:49] <ksmurf> phaeTon  I was just saying for purly gaming linux is not the alternitive YET>>>>  It will come
[06:49] <FhaeTon> cd is home
[06:49] <_smd_> hooded: that is not an answerable question.
[06:49] <_smd_> At least I dont have an answer.
[06:49] <hooded> _smd_ http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2099
[06:49] <FhaeTon> I just wanna learn and this one seems nice
[06:49] <miller> how can i open files from a ntfs partition?
[06:49] <hooded> sorry _smd_ slow computer
[06:49] <Gin> hnn
[06:49] <Andyfg> ok
[06:49] <nalioth> !tell miller about ntfs
[06:49] <Gin> forget what nick i regged on this server..
[06:49] <_smd_> hooded: thats fine, dont worry, Im just biitchy:)
[06:49] <Andyfg> when i type "which make" in the root terminal it does absolutely nothing
[06:49] <FhaeTon> cd = home?
[06:49] <ksmurf> It is.  The installer holds your hand and it has good hardware support
[06:49] <Andyfg> it just goes back to the prompt
[06:49] <_smd_> hooded: you are set:P
[06:50] <hooded> okay.
[06:50] <Andyfg> and if i type "make"
[06:50] <Andyfg> i get
[06:50] <hooded> what do i do?
[06:50] <Andyfg> "bash: make: command not found"
[06:50] <ksmurf> but it's powerful enough for 99%
[06:50] <FhaeTon> oh i c
[06:50] <ksmurf> of users
[06:50] <FhaeTon> thats cool
[06:50] <_smd_> Andyfg: please post one message, if you have to, make it longer. this is just scrolling off the screen...
[06:50] <_smd_> Andyfg: Also. sudo aptitude install build-essential
[06:50] <Andyfg> sorry
[06:50] <FhaeTon> mkdir + make directory
[06:51] <miller> nalioth i mounted it and i see all files but i can't open it
[06:51] <hooded> _smd_ do i just press yes and have it remove the ubuntu-desktop?>
[06:51] <Madpilot> Andyfg: what happens if you type "man make"?
[06:51] <nalioth> miller: you'll have to copy the file to your linux partition
[06:51] <Andyfg> just did the sudo aptitude that went well :)
[06:51] <_smd_> hooded: yes, that is just a list of packages, common to the ubuntu-desktop.
[06:51] <FhaeTon> hey what is var?
[06:51] <Andyfg> umm let me try madpilot
[06:51] <hooded> okay sweet
[06:51] <Andyfg> "No manual entry for make"
[06:52] <_smd_> Andyfg: wait for that thing to install, the build-essential. that is the package required for make.
[06:52] <Xenguy> FhaeTon: it stores 'VARiable' files, as in files that come and go, and grow in size
[06:52] <hooded> Oh wow... it worked, _smd_ you are a badass
[06:52] <_smd_> I did nothing.
[06:52] <Andyfg> _smd_ it finished.. it said done to everything and then took me back to the prompt
[06:52] <_smd_> Andyfg: make.
[06:52] <FhaeTon> hmm is there documentation that will tell me how it does that?
[06:52] <Andyfg> "bash: make: command not found"
[06:52] <miller> i want use files from the ntfs partition because they are movies and are so heavys
[06:52] <Madpilot> _smd_: I don't have build-essential installed, but "man make" brings up the make man-file for me...
[06:53] <FhaeTon> is there a definiton list of this styuff
[06:53] <ksmurf> FhaeTon http://www.linuxquestions.org/   Check it out
[06:53] <Madpilot> !tell miller about ntfs
[06:53] <hooded> holy crapy _smd_ it update my mozilla firefox to 1.0.6
[06:53] <nfinitep1astik> can someone please direct me to what exactly my samba conf should say so i can share to my xp machine?
[06:53] <FhaeTon> oh thank
[06:53] <hooded> sweetness
[06:53] <FhaeTon> what should I GO TO FIRST
[06:53] <_smd_> hooded: now, the final and most important step. sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list . then, comment out the last two repositories. put a # in front of the last two lines.
[06:54] <miller> madpilot i mounted the partition and i see it and all files but i can read any files
[06:54] <Andyfg> ok so the packages finished (the aptitude thing).. but when i type "make" i still get "command not found" and when i type man make i get "no manual entroy for make"
[06:54] <hooded> okay hold on i will
[06:54] <_smd_> hooded: that will ensure that you will not upgrade all the available packages to the backports versions that are not very staBLE.
[06:54] <miller> :S
[06:54] <ksmurf> FhaeTon Google..... Linux newbie
[06:54] <whyameye> Andyfg, have you tried downloading and installing the package called Make from Synaptic?
[06:54] <FhaeTon> one sec
[06:54] <_smd_> hooded: I wont hold on...then once you are done...save, close, and sudo aptitude update.
[06:54] <pinoyko> site for ubuntu free 3d games
[06:55] <_smd_> later
[06:55] <Andyfg> whyameye no i havent
[06:55] <FhaeTon> wow
[06:55] <Andyfg> but my touchpad is ALPS
[06:55] <Andyfg> not synaptic
[06:55] <FhaeTon> omg
[06:55] <pinoyko> site for ubuntu free 3d games
[06:55] <wazary> hey peeps
[06:55] <FhaeTon> lots of help things for newbies came up
[06:55] <hooded> okay _smd_
[06:55] <whyameye> Andyfg, give it a shot. The GNU make utility is available as a package on Synaptic. I thought it would come preinstalled but perhaps it isn't installed yet on your OS.
[06:55] <pinoyko> help
[06:56] <Andyfg> in the synaptics-0.14.3.tar package
[06:56] <Andyfg> tehre is a file called "makefile", if i try to run this in the terminal nothing happens i get command not found
[06:56] <pinoyko> site for linux 3d games ubuntu compatible
[06:56] <FhaeTon> I'm on Mac Tiger right now r u guys on linux
[06:56] <pinoyko> please give any site
[06:56] <whyameye> Andyfg, yes the makefile is read by the make utility, which you don't appear to have....
[06:56] <Xenguy> FhaeTon: http://www.linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[06:56] <hooded> _smd_ like this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2100
[06:57] <Andyfg> ahh okay so where can i get the make utility? could u send ma url?
[06:57] <Andyfg> *me
[06:57] <FhaeTon> ok Ill read and come back
[06:57] <oohweeee> ubuntu linux rawks!
[06:57] <whyameye> Andyfg, just run Synaptic Package Manager and do a search for Make.
[06:57] <miller> madpilot i see the ntfs partition but can't open any files
[06:57] <hooded> wait _smd_ what are the last two repositories?
[06:57] <miller> i hace read permission but not write permission
[06:57] <Andyfg> ok i have no idea what you just said... im really sorry but Im really new to linux
[06:58] <Andyfg> im a windows user :$
[06:58] <Madpilot> miller: there is no NTFS writing, sorry.
[06:58] <nfinitep1astik> can someone please direct me to what exactly my samba conf should say so i can share to my xp machine?
[06:58] <whyameye> Andyfg, in the system menu, under administation, look for Synaptic Package Menu.
[06:58] <whyameye> Andyfg, Menu == Manager
[06:58] <Andyfg> whoa
[06:59] <whyameye> Andyfg, are you running Gnome?
[06:59] <FhaeTon> Xenguy your not going anywhere are you its a lot to read?
[06:59] <Andyfg> i just got a msg saying "the following problems were found on your system:" n there's a whole list of them
[06:59] <whyameye> Andyfg, I get that too...:-)
[06:59] <miller> madpilot i just want to watch my movies from the ntfs partition how can i do it
[06:59] <Andyfg> ok cool
[06:59] <Andyfg> i am running nome
[06:59] <Xenguy> FhaeTon: I'm not sure what you mean; do you want to learn or not?
[06:59] <Madpilot> miller: you should be able to read files fine, but there is no writing ability
[06:59] <Andyfg> okay now what am i looking for?
[06:59] <whyameye> Okay, so in the package manager, you see the <search> icon?
[06:59] <FhaeTon> your gonna help me learn right?
[07:00] <oohweeee> has anyone had trouble getting totem running using xine?
[07:00] <miller> ok madpilot i don't know why i can't see the movies :S thanks any way
[07:00] <Andyfg> ?
[07:01] <whyameye> Andyfg, do you see the search icon in Synaptic?
[07:01] <Andyfg> yup
[07:01] <whyameye> Andyfg, if you want, just type sudo apt-get install make
[07:01] <whyameye> Andyfg, that would be in the terminal window, BTW...