[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #139484 in ubuntu "ASUS WL-107G PCMCIA wireless card doesn't works" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139484
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #139487 in ubuntu "X not starting in non-new NVIDIA cards when non-legacy option selected in restricted drivers manager" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139487
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #139493 in ubuntu "A unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139493
[12:59] <gnomefreak> that looks alot like an unsupported packages/repos issue more than update-manager
[01:01] <kostkon> gnomefreak, you are right
[01:01] <gnomefreak> sid main installed app that overwrode ours more than likley
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #139497 in pidgin (main) ""Message could not be sent because a connection error occurred:" (w/ MSN HTTP Method)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139497
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #139498 in eclipse (universe) "Search in files does not work with gcj" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139498
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #139501 in firefox-granparadiso (universe) "firefox-granparadiso menus/tooltips trigger Compiz glide animation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139501
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #139502 in compiz (main) "Shouldnt use both fade and animation plugins by default" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139502
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #139503 in ubuntu "[amd64 gutsy]  acpi-support 0.101: thinkpad keys broken" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139503
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #139504 in gnome-panel (main) "desktop switcher removes all panels" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139504
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #139505 in ubuntu "dell E1705 will not boot into X from liveCD." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139505
[04:06] (ubotu/#ubuntu-bugs) New bug: #139521 in ubuntu "Compaq Presario 700 hangs when resuming from suspend or hibernation (Gutsy Tribe 5)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139521
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #139522 in ubuntu "crash on package updates" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139522
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #139523 in openoffice.org (main) ""myu" will not display in spreadsheet" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139523
[05:02] <torkiano> hello
[05:03] <torkiano> anyone can confirm this bug i filed?
[05:03] <torkiano> bug #139525
[05:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 139525 in mesa "Gutsy inusable because 3D desktop effects on 3dfx cards" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139525
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #139525 in mesa (main) "Gutsy inusable because 3D desktop effects on 3dfx cards" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139525
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #139526 in f-spot (main) "Error importing pictures when filename includes %XX (where XX is valid hex)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139526
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #139527 in network-manager (main) "Network Manager crashes with et131x Agere Card" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139527
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #139528 in ubuntu "NetworkManager: VPN (PPTP) doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139528
[05:26] <RAOF> torkiano: Hm.  That doesn't quite look right.
[05:26] <RAOF> torkiano: So, the actual bug is "The desktop doesn't load", correct?
[05:41] <ubotu> New bug: #139530 in gedit (main) "gedit save a file that hasn't been modified" [Undecided,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139530
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #139531 in courier (universe) "courier imap extremely slow and causes heavy disk usage after recent gutsy update" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139531
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #139533 in compiz (main) "Compiz Crash when closing group windows" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139533
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #139534 in palo (main) "Please sync palo (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139534
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #139535 in deskbar-applet (main) "deskbar-applet window sticks to other windows" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139535
[06:51] <ubotu> New bug: #139536 in ubiquity (main) "Can not start installer on daily livecd 20070913" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139536
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #139524 in ubuntu "doesnt suport resolution 15" dtk computer" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139524
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #139537 in tcsh (main) "tcsh history file fails to save commands with "!" properly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139537
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #139538 in ubuntu "E: Read Error- Read (5 input/output error)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139538
[07:49] <kagou> Good morning
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #139539 in kopete (main) "[Gutsy]  Kopete webcam not working" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139539
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #139540 in gnome-panel (main) "using desktop effects is making black holes in to the desktop" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139540
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #139541 in pidgin (main) "Google talk account show up as XMPP after I save the settings" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139541
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #139542 in gnome-screensaver (main) "screensaver logs off user when engaging/cannot access control through GUI" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139542
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #139543 in firefox (main) "firefox .deb overwrites firefox.cfg which stores systemwide settings such as startpage, proxy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139543
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #139544 in ubuntu "Restricted Manager pushes wrong driver" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139544
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #139545 in ubuntu "Try to instal, but get failer to allocate memory resource #6, then goes black screen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139545
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #139546 in ubuntu "screen shift after screensaver stop" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139546
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #139547 in beagle (main) "Index all Maildir folders" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139547
[09:35] <dholbach> good morning
[09:46] <kagou> Hey dholbach
[09:46] <dholbach> hey kagou
[09:59] <thekorn> hey dholbach
[09:59] <dholbach> heya thekorn
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #139551 in gaim (main) "Can't join yahoo chat room" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139551
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #139553 in ubuntu "xubuntu gutsy tribe 5 cd was not able to boot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139553
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #139552 in ubuntu "card reader not working anymore in linux 2.6.22 (was working in 2.6.20)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139552
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #139554 in gedit (main) "[gutsy]  gedit hangs while editing html file" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139554
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #139556 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "after updates, no output displayed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139556
[10:44] <dholbach> thekorn rocks :)
[10:47] <coNP> Can someone help me triaging bug 130141? I cannot help any more...
[10:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 130141 in ubuntu "translation repos don't work" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/130141
[10:47] <coNP> Feel free to reassign it to yourself, if you can. I cannot think of any questions that could help me to understand what the bug report is about.
[10:48] <Fujitsu> coNP: I presume they mean the it_IT DDTP translations are failing to download.
[10:48] <dholbach> I'd ask for /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:49] <coNP> Can any of you triage the bug please? :)
[10:49] <dholbach> and maybe the output of      dpkg -l > packages   to see what he's missing
[10:53] <Fujitsu> Debian Description Translation Project, or so, asisak.
[10:53] <Fujitsu> Translated package descriptions.
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #139557 in ubuntu "[Gutsy Alternate CD]  IWL4965 firmware not included for install." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139557
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #139558 in beagle (main) "[gutsy]  Email subject not displayed in beagle-search and kerry" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139558
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #139560 in amarok (main) "Audio stuttering with low sample rates" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139560
[11:34] <ubotu> New bug: #139563 in libgphoto2 (main) "Wish: libgphoto2 2.4.0 for Gusty: Testers needed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139563
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #139564 in gnumeric (main) "Unable to drag file from nautilus into gnumeric" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139564
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #139565 in hal (main) "Dbus errors when trying to hibernate" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139565
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #139566 in network-manager (main) "network-manager is in "no network connection" mode even though all interface are manually managed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139566
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #139567 in libpam-usb (universe) "pamusb device detection failed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139567
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #139570 in ubuntu "Documents in swiss-french are not spell checked" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139570
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #139572 in telepathy-sofiasip (universe) "Please sync telepathy-sofiasip (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139572
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #139573 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager requests the key to me to unblock the ring, I deny the request and it connects" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139573
[12:24] <Dany700> hi everybody
[12:25] <Dany700> a question: for testing, should i use tribe 4 or 5?
[12:25] <Dany700> thank you
[12:28] <Dany700> because i wasn't sure that tribe 4 testing was complete...
[12:28] <Dany700> i'll test tribe 5
[12:30] <Dany700> goodbye
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #139576 in compiz (main) "some elements open with glide, should use fade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139576
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #139577 in compiz (main) ""dodge" effect highly distracting" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139577
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #139578 in hwdb-client (main) "ubuntu device database" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139578
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #139579 in smart (universe) "new upstream version" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139579
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #139581 in vmware-player (multiverse) "vmware-player service should starts to late, should go to S16" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139581
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #139582 in ubuntu "volume knob on dell multimedia keyboard doesn't work out of the box, cannot be configured in gnome keyboard applet" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139582
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #139583 in linux-meta (main) "linux doesn't depend on lum on lpia" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139583
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #139585 in mythbuntu-control-centre (universe) "Desktop roles: should be able to select more than one" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139585
[01:28] <jacki1> Hi! #137037 is not applicable anymore. What status should I put it?
[01:48] <ubotu> New bug: #139192 in system-config-printer (main) "system-config-printer.py crashed with KeyError in on_server_changed()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139192
[01:48] <ubotu> New bug: #139586 in mythbuntu-control-centre (universe) "Please upload translations to launchpad" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139586
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #139589 in xournal (universe) "xournal pdf annotation does not work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139589
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #139590 in ubuntu "Broadcom 43xx not work correctly in Feisty Fawn PPC" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139590
[02:16] <ubotu> New bug: #139591 in mythbuntu-control-centre (universe) "while configuring auto login, i get a python back trace" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139591
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #139592 in glibc (main) "[SECURITY]  glibc contains paths to useful binaries" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139592
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #139569 in quagga (main) "quagga in dapper/edgy/feisty are vulnerable to malformed community string in bgpd" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139569
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #139595 in strigiapplet (main) "strigiapplet does not save global shortcuts" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139595
[03:19] <manchicken> Anybody know Marco Maini?
[03:23] <dholbach> manchicken: https://launchpad.net/~maini10 ? he should be maini10 on freenode
[03:23] <manchicken> dholbach: YEah, but I've never seen that nick before.
[03:23] <manchicken> Have you?
[03:23] <dholbach> no, not really
[03:25] <manchicken> Hmm... do I have to have fancy perms in LP to assign bugs to myself now?
[03:25] <manchicken> Nevermind, figured it out.
[03:26] <manchicken> That little icon is... less than obvious.
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #139596 in network-manager (main) "Network Manager fails to bring up wireless connection at startup" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139596
[03:36] <ubotu> New bug: #139597 in ubuntu "Rendering of malayalam (ml) charater improper" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139597
[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #139598 in gnumeric "save unchanged documents" [Low,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139598
[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #139599 in ubuntu ""move to another workspace" menu item for a window does nothing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139599
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #139600 in gnome-games (main) "save unchanged game" [Low,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139600
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #139601 in gnome-panel (main) "Bureau 3D" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139601
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #139602 in eog (main) "[gutsy]  eog save menu is always active" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139602
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #139603 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed just after vnc server url return 404 error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139603
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #139604 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "CONFIG_REISERFS_CHECK is ON - reiserfs slow!" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139604
[04:26] <ubotu> New bug: #139605 in amarok (main) "amarokapp crashed with signal 7 (dup-of: 135729)" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139605
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #139607 in ubuntu "[Gutsy]  Sometimes Intel HDA is the defaul, sometimes Audigy 2 ZS in gnome" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139607
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #139608 in thunderbird (main) "Segmentation fault when I try to change size of Lighting pane in Thunderbird - /usr/lib/thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 17331 Segmentation fault (core dumped) "$prog" ${1+"$@"} " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139608
[04:50] <ubotu> New bug: #139610 in gdebi (main) "progress bar in GDebI paints incorrectly with Ubuntulooks" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139610
[04:50] <ubotu> New bug: #139611 in rhythmbox (main) "Die GStreamer-Plugins zum decodieren von MP3-Dateien konnten nicht gefunden werden" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139611
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #139614 in criawips (universe) "[gutsy]  criawips "save unchanged documents"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139614
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #139620 in ubuntu "Network manager" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139620
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #139617 in ubuntu "broadcom" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139617
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #139571 in xorg (main) "my mouse freezes, so does everything else in Ubuntu" [High,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139571
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #139621 in amule (universe) "amule" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139621
[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #139622 in ubuntu "Kubuntu Live CD fails to automount hard disk partitions" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139622
[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #139624 in metacity (main) "No window border displayed." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139624
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #139627 in ubuntu "Clock applet and evolution" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139627
[05:42] <bdmurray> pedro_: morning
[05:43] <pedro_> hello bdmurray how's going?
[05:43] <bdmurray> good how are you?
[05:43] <pedro_> i'm fine too
[05:43] <bdmurray> That's a long celebration - 3 days?
[05:45] <bdmurray> I was looking at bug 114233 and I'm not certain if it is really the kernel or gnome-sound-*
[05:45] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114233 in linux-source-2.6.20 "recording device does not respond" [Undecided,Won't fix]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114233
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #139628 in update-manager (main) "packages from archive.canonical.com may get marked as obsolete" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139628
[05:48] <pedro_> yup quite long celebrations
[05:49] <pedro_> bdmurray: does that works with alsamixer ?
[05:50] <bddebian> Boo
[05:50] <ogra> bee
[05:51] <bddebian> :-) Hi ogra
[05:52] <ogra> he
[05:52] <ogra> y
[05:52] <bdmurray> pedro_: I'm not sure I understand
[05:53] <pochu> do you guys know where these bugs should be filed under? I guess they are all dups, but don't know where to move the master: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=PyThreadState_New
[05:55] <bdmurray> pochu!
[05:55] <pochu> hey bdmurray :)
[05:55] <pochu> How are you doing?
[05:56] <bdmurray> I'm well and you?
[05:56] <pochu> Doing some bug triage :)
[05:56] <pochu> Well I'm ill and I can't get out of home hehe
[05:56] <bdmurray> I'm sorry to hear that, but thanks for helping!
[05:57] <pochu> No prob, I like doing it ;)
[05:57] <pochu> And the question now is, do you know something about them? ^ ;)
[05:58] <bdmurray> pochu: I'd guess whatever provides /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gobject/_gobject.so
[05:59] <pochu> which is pygobject, I think.
[05:59] <bdmurray> Not python-gtk2?
[05:59] <bdmurray> Ah, I'm getting there.
[05:59] <pochu> Hmm, not sure. Checking
[06:00] <bdmurray> Yeah, it is.
[06:00] <bdmurray> I mean you are right.
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #139630 in wget (main) "wget ignores content-disposition" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139630
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #139631 in ubuntu "Multithreading not utilizing both cores" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139631
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #139632 in ubuntu "Network Manager cant find wlan0 when its loaded in ndiswrapper" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139632
[06:01] <pochu> Let's dup them and move to pygobject then :)
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #139634 in glade-3 (main) "Please resync with debian" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139634
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #139635 in cryptsetup (universe) "[cryptsetup]  library dependency in /sbin/cryptsetup" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139635
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #139637 in fai (universe) "new upstream fai 3.2.1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139637
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #139638 in ubuntu "Gxine has priority over volume applet to control volume" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139638
[06:07] <bdmurray> pedro_: ?
[06:08] <pedro_> bdmurray: i'll comment in the bug, give a minute
[06:11] <pochu> bdmurray: Bug #123870
[06:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 123870 in pygobject "listen.py crashed with SIGSEGV in PyThreadState_New()" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123870
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #139639 in gnome-games (main) "Add PySol to Ubuntu Gnome Games" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139639
[06:18] <bdmurray> pedro_: Okay, thanks.
[06:19] <bdmurray> pochu: not triaged?
[06:22] <pochu> hmm, you're right, let's mark it as triaged :)
[06:23] <bdmurray> pedro_: I haven't tested recording with alsamixer.  How do you do that?
[06:24] <pedro_> you can't just want to see if alsamixer detects well the recorder
[06:25] <pedro_> i'll assign the bug to me, i guess is a gnome-recorder one
[06:29] <bdmurray> Okay, that makes sense.  Thanks.
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #139642 in ubuntu "Wireless stopped working - ipw3945: Detected geography ABG on kernel 2.6.20-16-generic" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139642
[06:38] <pedro_> bdmurray: was a dup of bug 131711
[06:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 131711 in gstreamer "No Sound in Gusty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131711
[06:41] <bdmurray> Is there a more descriptive title we could use for that bug?
[06:44] <ogra> "... doesnt work" ?
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #139644 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "DVD drive not detected, Intel Corporation Mobile IDE Controller (rev 03)" [High,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139644
[06:48] <bdmurray> ogra: you aren't helping
[06:48] <bdmurray> ;)
[06:48] <ogra> :)
[06:48] <Hobbsee> ogra: hint:  translate it into bosnian or something.
[06:48] <ogra> hehe
[06:48] <Hobbsee> or apply marketing speak.
[06:49] <jeromeg> anyone from ubuntu-backports here ?
[06:51] <jeromeg> bdmurray : how can we fix bug 114534 ?
[06:51] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114534 in gimmie "Suggested patches for gimmie" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114534
[06:51] <jeromeg> I've asked for a backport a week ago but got no reply
[06:52] <jeromeg> is it possible to do an SRU updating gimmie to 0.2.7 ?
[06:54] <bdmurray> jeromeg: looking
[06:54] <jeromeg> bdmurray: thanks, you rock!
[06:59] <bdmurray> pedro_: I see your name in the gnome bug reports for this - do you know more about this?
[07:00] <pedro_> bdmurray: not really, the comments with my name are the ones i marked dup of the original
[07:00] <bdmurray> jeromeg: Not that it is a big deal but I don't see any launchpad bugs about this
[07:01] <jeromeg> bdmurray: I think gnome bug triagers would be more than happy to have this fixed, people are sending a lot of bug reports in gnome bugzilla about this
[07:01] <jeromeg> bdmurray: yes for ubuntu it doesn't seem to be a big issue, but see above
[07:02] <pedro_> you don't see bug reports coming from it
[07:02] <pedro_> because the gnome python report is broken
[07:02] <jeromeg> pedro_: good point :)
[07:02] <bdmurray> So they skip launchpad?
[07:02] <pedro_> yes sir
[07:03] <pedro_> they raise bug-buddy instead of apport
[07:03] <bdmurray> That's not so good
[07:03] <pedro_> at all
[07:03] <jeromeg> that's why I wanted to fix this :)
[07:03] <pedro_> i thought i mention that, give a minute
[07:03] <bdmurray> I do seem to recall talking to pitti about that with you pedro_
[07:03] <pedro_> bug 8227
[07:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 8227 in xfree86 "X server needs to be restarted after boot up to get stuff working (dup-of: 8248)" [Low,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8227
[07:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 8248 in ubuntu "NV driver needs backport from X.org" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8248
[07:03] <pedro_> ah no
[07:04] <pedro_> bug 88227
[07:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 88227 in gnome-python "should not run when apport is used" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88227
[07:04] <pedro_> that's the one
[07:06] <bdmurray> ScottK: hello?
[07:07] <ubotu> New bug: #139649 in libmtp (main) "Troubles with mtp in mtp-detect and Rhythmbox with a cowon D2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139649
[07:08] <jeromeg> bdmurray: but even if we fix the reporting bug, the crash will still be here and we will be spamed by bug reports for a fixed bug
[07:08] <jeromeg> so I think we should do something
[07:08] <ubotu> New bug: #139647 in ubuntu "[Gutsy amd64]  sound card not recognized " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139647
[07:08] <ubotu> New bug: #139648 in compiz (main) "Gutsy edubuntu ltsp clients having compiz-fusion issues" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139648
[07:09] <bdmurray> jeromeg: right, ideally both should be fixed
[07:09] <jeromeg> bdmurray: is backport a good solution ?
[07:09] <ubotu> New bug: #139646 in ubuntu "gutsy daily built cds/cdimages are too big" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139646
[07:11] <bdmurray> jeromeg: That is what I was looking for ScottK for
[07:11] <jeromeg> bdmurray: ok perfect ! thanks
[07:12] <bdmurray> I'm not sure it meets the SRU policy but because of the scope of impact I personally think it should go there
[07:13] <jeromeg> bdmurray: but with an SRU can we update to 0.2.7 ?
[07:14] <jeromeg> because we have 0.2.4 and the patches are for 0.2.6
[07:14] <jeromeg> 0.2.7 could also fix a lot untriaged crashing bugs we have in LP btw
[07:15] <bdmurray> No going to 0.2.7 for SRU wouldn't work.  However, having it be an SRU would get installed on the most systems.
[07:15] <bdmurray> Because not everyone enables -backports right?
[07:16] <jeromeg> yep
[07:16] <jeromeg> maybe SRU + backport would cool then :) ?
[07:17] <bdmurray> jeromeg: Have you looked at patching our version of gimme?
[07:19] <jeromeg> bdmurray: to be honest no, I think it's a bit complicated for my "skills"
[07:25] <jeromeg> bdmurray: sorry but I got to go in a few minutes
[07:25] <bdmurray> jeromeg: Okay, take care and thanks for bringing it to my attention
[07:25] <jeromeg> bdmurray: ok thanks
[07:25] <jeromeg> bye
[07:28] <ubotu> New bug: #139645 in gnome-panel (main) "absence de tableau de bord sur les 2nds et troisieme espaces de travail. ils ont non masqus, non rduits..." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139645
[07:28] <ubotu> New bug: #139651 in ubuntu "apport doesn't launch on program crashing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139651
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #139652 in libgphoto2 (main) "UVF exception 2.3.1 -> 2.4.0" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139652
[07:45] <gnomefreak> pitti never did enable auto apport did he for gutsy
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #139653 in gnome-panel (main) "Package Update-manager returned error message." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139653
[07:52] <ScottK> bdmurray: What's the question?
[07:53] <bdmurray> ScottK: Hey there.  Whether or not bug 114534 is SRU worthy for Universe.
[07:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114534 in gimmie "Suggested patches for gimmie" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114534
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #139668 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139668
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #139681 in vnc4 (main) "Can't type in password dialog" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139681
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #139683 in apparmor (main) "package apparmor-utils 2.1+961-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139683
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #139684 in ubuntu "No restricted drivers found for ATI Radeon 9200 SE" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139684
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #139682 in vnc4 (main) "vnc4 version bump request 4.1.2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139682
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #139686 in ubuntu "Pidgin 2.2.0 in Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139686
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #139687 in libdvdread (universe) "problem with the kaffeine and xine-ui progressbar in gutsy gibbon" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139687
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #139689 in geos (universe) "package libgeos2c2a needs upgrading" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139689
[11:07] <ubotu> New bug: #139692 in totem (main) "TV Interview with Mark (Shuttleworth) U.mp4 works " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139692
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #126982 in restricted-manager "No error message if internet unavailable (dup-of: 108119)" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126982
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #139694 in cdrtools (multiverse) "package cdda2wav 9:1.1.6-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/cdda2ogg', which is also in package icedax" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139694
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #139697 in gnucash (universe) "Purchasing stock problems when not dealing with default currency" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139697
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #139699 in alsa-driver (main) "[Gutsy]  No sound on Dell Latitude D630 with Intel HDA (ICH8) " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139699


[04:33] <Ryan52> erm. why is Bug 137526 private?
[04:33] <Ryan52> maybe I have bugs mixed up, though...since I can't really tell anymore :P
[04:41] <james_w> Ryan52: did you just submit it through apport?
[04:42] <Ryan52> oh, no, was it just submitted.
[04:42] <Ryan52> if so, then my mistake. I thought it was a bug that was already there that just became private.
[04:42] <james_w> no
[04:42] <james_w> I can see it
[04:43] <Ryan52> okay.
[04:43] <james_w> I believe it's someone doing stuff wrong
[04:43] <james_w> It doesn't look private
[04:43] <james_w> but I am relucatant to open it up
[04:43] <james_w> I'm going to alert the launchpad folks to the user, as it is the second time I have seen odd behaviour
[04:44] <Ryan52> okay, thanks.
[04:44] <james_w> I think that they are testing the launchpad API and not being sensible about it
[04:46] <james_w> Ryan52: thanks for bringing it up
[05:53] <nellery> is bug 300914 from the same guy that has been spamming reports recently?
[05:53] <Hobbsee> nellery: probably.  they haven't actually managed to properly deactivate the account.
[05:53] <nellery> Hobbsee: so best to mark them all invalid?
[05:54] <Hobbsee> nellery: so far, people are hoping that the LOSAs are going tobe able to do a mass revert.
[05:55] <nellery> Hobbsee: okay
[08:04] <Hobbsee> debian bug #445204
[08:21] <Hobbsee> man...
[08:21] <Hobbsee> If anyone wanted something to triage, the bugs on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rss-glx would be great!
[09:15] <Ryan52> can somebody set some bug importances for me? here's my list (bugnumber => suggested_importance_level): 105078 => low, 105082 => low, 276517 => low, 276525 => low, 276529 => medium, 276530 => low, 293240 => medium
[09:28] <Ryan52> and, can somebody change the status on 276534 to wont fix instead of invalid. I knew there was a won't fix, but not seeing it in the list made me think I was wrong...and now I figured out that there is a status called wont't fix, but I just don't have permission to use it. -_-
[09:29]  * Ryan52 goes to send an application to join the ubuntu-bugcontrol team, so that he doesn't have to do this again.
[09:34] <BUGabundo> hi
[09:34] <BUGabundo> is bugs.kde.org working for anyone?
[09:34] <BUGabundo> I would like to upstream a new bug I created on LP
[09:35] <BUGabundo> but it seems to fail when creating a new bug
[09:53] <BUGabundo> persia: have a nice vacation!
[10:06] <Ryan52> okay, sleep time for me...
[10:09] <BUGabundo> guud nite Ryan
[10:09] <BUGabundo> guud nite Ryan52
[10:34] <maxriskfactor> I reported a bug on launchpad, but can anyone help me to classify the package to which it belongs?
[10:36] <BUGabundo> maxriskfactor: what bug is it?
[10:36] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/299188 this is the bug report
[10:37] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, When I right-click on desktop or have Application or Places drop down box, and then try to change the volume of the speaker via button on my laptop, its fails
[10:38] <BUGabundo> ahh maxriskfactor
[10:38] <BUGabundo> I see what you mean
[10:38] <BUGabundo> I guess that's a metacity bug
[10:39] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, but I dont have any desktop effects enabled
[10:39] <BUGabundo> if any menu dropdown is choosen lots of other common actions will fail to work
[10:39] <BUGabundo> metacity is the 2D window manager!
[10:39] <BUGabundo> not the compiz one (emerald)
[10:39] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, I confused between metacity and emerald :P
[10:40] <maxriskfactor> but this should not happen, sound +/- should happen in background
[10:40] <BUGabundo> yeah
[10:41] <BUGabundo> so should Firefox allow you to change windows when you have a new link being write on the awsome bar
[10:41] <BUGabundo> its so annoying!
[10:41] <BUGabundo> try that
[10:41] <maxriskfactor> FAILED! :(
[10:42] <BUGabundo> reporting now
[10:42] <BUGabundo> please confirme it once I have it up
[10:43] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, confirming the Firefox problem?
[10:43] <BUGabundo> didn't you just said it failed?
[10:43] <maxriskfactor> yes, it didnt allow me to switch windows using Alt+Tab when Awesome bar was showing its awesomeness
[10:44] <BUGabundo> yeah
[10:44] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, so should i change the package to metacity of that bug?
[10:45]  * BUGabundo steals maxriskfactor description
[10:45] <BUGabundo> I already did file your bug
[10:45] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, changed it or made another?
[10:46] <BUGabundo> already there
[10:46] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/22199
[10:46] <BUGabundo> I set the package for your bug
[10:46] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, Thanks! :)
[10:46] <BUGabundo> hope QA team agrees with me
[10:47] <maxriskfactor> I dont have much idea of bugs being fixed
[10:47] <maxriskfactor> but will the developers pay attention to such bugs?
[10:49] <BUGabundo> they do, sure1
[10:50] <maxriskfactor> i have only being reproducing bugs and reporting them on launchpad till now
[10:51] <maxriskfactor> or assigning packages to bugs which have not been assigned packages, but only for those bugs, which i understand
[10:52] <BUGabundo> you lost me there
[10:53] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, didnt get what you mean by "You lost me there"
[10:53] <BUGabundo> yeah
[10:53] <BUGabundo> we both got lost with each other talks!
[10:54] <BUGabundo> I also don't get what you are talking about
[10:54] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, yeah.... were you busy with something else?
[10:56] <BUGabundo> many chanels, email, feeds, and 2 BTS
[10:56] <BUGabundo> lol
[11:03] <maxriskfactor> :)
[11:12] <serial> I have a bug report for mouse tweaks (accsessiblity)
[11:12] <serial> but i am total newb
[11:14] <maxriskfactor> serial, what's the problem?
[11:14] <BUGabundo> eheh maxriskfactor now you are on the other side of things... lol
[11:15] <serial> when I activate "trigger secoundary click by holding primary button" in  accessibility, the mouse goes interlaced transparent and distorted
[11:15] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, trying my hands too, help this guy out... am also trying
[11:16] <serial> re-login and reboot fixes the mouse appearance, but the right-click is not working, even though its still checked in the sccessibility GUI
[11:16] <serial> soory for my newbness, I am using a Macbook Pro and Ibex
[11:17] <maxriskfactor> serial, that would furthur complicate the situation.... I think some expert can help you out better
[11:17] <BUGabundo> yeah
[11:17] <BUGabundo> it goes above my head too
[11:18] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, my mouse config anf mouse accessibility doesnt work.... just says opening... and doesnt open, so i cant reproduce
[11:18] <serial> aight but is there anywhere I can read how to report a bug properly? I could probably figure out how to log the process from terminal and get some code-dumps from GNOME if I just have a tut
[11:20] <BUGabundo> serial: when you start to create a but
[11:21] <BUGabundo> *bug
[11:21] <BUGabundo> there is a link to a wiki page
[11:21] <BUGabundo> with all the info you need
[11:21] <maxriskfactor> serial, Logs can be accessed from System>Administration>System Log
[11:22] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, what section of Logs should I check for mouse and keyboard logs?
[11:22] <serial> create a bug?
[11:23] <BUGabundo> no idea
[11:23] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, I tried Xorg.0.log , nothing shown there
[11:23] <BUGabundo> dmesg?
[11:23] <maxriskfactor> serial, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[11:23] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, trying
[11:24] <maxriskfactor> serial, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
[11:25] <serial> thanks, you have been most helpful.
[11:25] <serial> Have a nice weekend! :)
[11:25] <maxriskfactor> serial, :)
[11:25] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, that's too useless.... looks like basic input devices like keyboard and mouse arnt logged
[11:26] <BUGabundo> syslog?
[11:26] <BUGabundo> eheh
[11:26] <BUGabundo> . /var/log/ should have all you need
[11:26] <BUGabundo> even if you have to grep it
[11:26] <BUGabundo> lOL
[11:26] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, tried syslog and messages in the beginng and still found nothing
[11:27] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, I do tail -f /var/log/syslog  so that even new updates to log can be shown in rel time
[11:27] <BUGabundo> what are u trying to find?
[11:27] <BUGabundo> yeah that a way to do it
[11:27] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, when I open mouse settings, it shows Opening Mouse and nothing comes after that
[11:28] <BUGabundo> humm
[11:28] <BUGabundo> that's another stuff
[11:28] <BUGabundo> and I doubt it gets logged
[11:28] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, I also doubt that it gets logged... those are too basic things, the log would get spammed with such events
[11:29] <BUGabundo> yah
[11:30] <maxriskfactor> BUGabundo, had a nice time meeting you. Thanks a lot...
[11:30] <maxriskfactor> I need to goto study.... Exams on head
[11:30] <BUGabundo> bye
[11:31] <Hobbsee> bug 243719
[11:33] <BUGabundo> hi Hobbsee
[11:34] <Hobbsee> hey BUGabundo
[11:34] <BUGabundo> hummm that lib isn't strange to me
[11:34] <BUGabundo> why is that?
[12:41] <DarkKnight> persia; u ther??
[13:02] <Flimm> I've uploaded a fix for a bug in my PPA, should I change the status of the bug report?
[14:01] <savvas> should bugs about wiki.ubuntu.com be linked to the moin (Ubuntu) source?
[14:03] <persia> DarkKnight, Yes.
[14:03] <persia> Flimm: If you've a fixed in a PPA, please also attach a patch to the bug.  "Triaged" is the correct status.
[14:04] <persia> savvas, Depends on the class of bug.  If it's a moin bug, probably.  If it's something odd specifically about wiki.ubuntu.com, probably not.  Dunno where those are really supposed to go though.
[14:07] <savvas> persia: I had reported a bug about wiki.ubuntu.com before to the ubuntu-website project, but it was marked as invalid
[14:07] <savvas> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/moin/+bug/300997
[14:07] <savvas> this is the new one
[14:08] <savvas> it's really specific to the wiki at ubuntu, since someone has changed the hardcoded css colours to that ugly red :P
[14:09] <persia> Then that's not a bug against moin.
[14:09] <persia> So that one's invalid too.
[14:09] <persia> Maybe you need an RT ticket?
[14:09] <savvas> darn
[14:09] <savvas> how we get that?
[14:09] <savvas> *how do
[14:10] <savvas> ah now I see your point, the older one was really relevant to the moinmoin software
[14:11] <savvas> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/moin/+bug/157385
[14:12] <persia> Right.
[14:12] <persia> I just have no idea how to report issues with the configuration of moin on wiki.ubuntu.com
[14:13] <persia> If it's an issue with the software, or the default configuration, the bug belongs there.
[14:13] <persia> If it's specific to the configuration, it needs to go to the wiki.ubuntu.com admins (and I'm not sure who that would be).
[14:14] <savvas> so it's not for ubuntu-website ?
[14:16] <savvas> you know what's the weird thing? even the loco teams have their wikis registered as projects, the ubuntu website seems to be set as a whole in one project
[14:18] <savvas> you know what? I'll leave them both there, perhaps the problem is in the moinmoin wiki package in ubuntu as well, I can't pinpoint it right now with all that css
[14:18] <savvas> If no-one replies in the next 4-5 days, I'll contact the rt admins as you said and set the bug as invalid
[14:21] <persia> I thought you said that the ubuntu-website team rejected a bug against the wiki before.
[14:21] <persia> Maybe there ought be an ubuntu-wiki project?
[14:21] <persia> Only issue is that most of the reported "bugs" will probably just be edits, which people could just do.
[14:25] <Rocket2DMn> You are looking to file a bug against wiki.ubuntu.com?
[14:28] <Rocket2DMn> You could just not file it against a package, you could also probably file it against ubuntu-website or ubuntu-doc
[14:29] <persia> Rocket2DMn, Yes, but against the configuration: not the software, and not the content.
[14:29] <persia> ubuntu-doc is a good idea.
[14:29] <Rocket2DMn> yeah, there really isnt a specific team/package for wiki.ubuntu.com
[14:29] <Rocket2DMn> ubuntu-doc primilary does help.ubuntu.com and the /community section
[14:30] <Rocket2DMn> since Canonical hosts the wiki, ubuntu-website might fly,too
[14:30] <persia> Well, ubuntu-website isn't all canonical folk either.
[14:31] <persia> But someone on that team probably can redirect to the appropriate procedure for asking the admins to look at the settings.
[14:31] <Rocket2DMn> ive seen wiki bugs filed against both teams
[14:34] <savvas> why don't they separate the ubuntu-website to the appropriate sections? ubuntu.com-website wiki.ubuntu.com-website help.ubuntu.com-website etc
[14:35] <persia> savvas, Maybe not enough bugs to make a difference.
[14:36] <Rocket2DMn> the projects were probably created independently
[14:36] <savvas> you're probably right, but sanity should be first priority :)
[14:36] <savvas> I'll file a bug about that hehe
[16:33] <BUGabundo> what's the prog/package that is used on the live cd installer?
[16:33] <BUGabundo> I want to open an usabilty bug
[16:33] <chrisccoulson> ubiquity?
[16:34] <BUGabundo> maybe
[16:34] <chrisccoulson> is your problem with the actual installer?
[16:35] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/301029
[16:35] <BUGabundo> I'm at an install event
[16:35] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that's the correct package
[16:35] <BUGabundo> and an user just asked why was there two fields!
[16:37] <BUGabundo> is it clear chrisccoulson
[16:37] <BUGabundo> ?
[16:37] <persia> BUGabundo, The reason is to verify the input.  With only one input field, there's no way to check for typos, but yes, this could perhaps be made more clear.
[16:37] <chrisccoulson> yeah, your bug report is clear i think
[16:38] <persia> In the bug, please share that a user was asking, and as much information about the user's confusion as possible, to better inform the interface designers.
[16:42] <bucket529> Could somebody please change bug 274453 from 'Undecided' to 'Wishlist'?
[16:59] <BUGabundo> thanks for the input persia. enjoy your vacations, dude
[17:25] <bucket529> Could somebody please change bug 274453 from 'Undecided' to 'Wishlist'? (second request)
[17:40] <Ryan52> that's fairly disappointing. nobody changed the statuses and importances that I asked for last night, and nobody responded to my request to be a bugcontrol member.
[17:40] <Ryan52> I really don't get why these things are restricted.
[17:40] <Ryan52> I mean, if somebody wants to do damage, they're gonna do it with words, not with importances. -_-
[17:41] <Ryan52> but maybe I'm missing something.
[17:49] <techno_freak> Ryan52, for every bug reporter his/her bug is of high priority, but it might not be so in the big picture. Hence we have bug control with a good experience of dealing and deciding what's important and how much.
[17:50] <techno_freak> Ryan52, secondly, if you've submitted a request with 5 of your best triages, then you should get a reply soon. it usually takes some time and doesn't happen within a day or two.
[17:51] <Ryan52> I understand that taking time, it's just sad that there's nobody here who is nice enough to use their power for me.
[17:51] <pheeror> more funny is when you attach a paych and there is absolutely no respond
[17:52] <Ryan52> well, for anybody who cares:
[17:52] <Ryan52> 01:15 < Ryan52> can somebody set some bug importances for me? here's my list (bugnumber => suggested_importance_level): 105078 => low, 105082 => low, 276517 => low, 276525 => low, 276529 => medium, 276530 =>  low, 293240 => medium
[17:52] <techno_freak> Ryan52, use power for?
[17:52] <Ryan52> 01:22 -!- woody86<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu-bugs
[17:52] <Ryan52> 01:28 < Ryan52> and, can somebody change the status on 276534 to wont fix instead of invalid. I knew there was a won't fix, but not seeing it in the list made me think I was wrong...and now I figured out that  there is a status called wont't fix, but I just don't have permission to use it. -_-
[17:52] <Ryan52> techno_freak: that :)
[17:53] <techno_freak> Ryan52, isn't there a reason for marking it invalid
[17:53] <techno_freak> ?
[17:54] <Ryan52> techno_freak: I did that. I shouldn't have. It's a perfectly fine bug report (nothing "invalid" about it), I just don't want to fix it.
[17:54] <techno_freak> bug 276534
[17:55] <Ryan52> and, I don't think I mentioned an importance for that one, but it should be Wishlist, as it's sort of a new feature. :)
[17:55] <techno_freak> Ryan52, well, marking it as invalid moves it away from attention. marking it as new or confirmed, and giving out a reason for won't fix might help
[17:56] <Ryan52> if you look at it, I said this:
[17:56] <Ryan52> Since all of these bugs are extremely trivial to fix, I will just fix the bugs themselves and not replace gaskpass.
[17:56] <Ryan52> Thanks, though. -- Ryan
[17:57] <techno_freak> Ryan52, ya, just saw it. a bit of patience might help, am sure somebody will read through and make the change :)
[17:57] <Ryan52> techno_freak: can't you? :D
[17:58] <techno_freak> Ryan52, If I could, it would've got done by now ;)
[17:58] <Ryan52> okay :(
[18:00] <Ryan52> it's not so much that I don't have patience, but irc is not a very good way of asking for help like this, as people come and go, and people forget easily. so I ask every 8 hours or so to remind them :)
[18:01] <techno_freak> Ryan52, well at most times, someone from bug control is awake and helps out instantly, i don't see much activity in other channels as well
[18:02] <Ryan52> okay.
[18:20] <Ryan52> I'll ask again in 8 hours, then give up and stop trying to help Ubuntu. cause I really don't care that much. -_-
[18:22] <nhandler> Ryan52: What is the change you need?
[18:23] <Ryan52> 01:15 < Ryan52> can somebody set some bug importances for me? here's my list (bugnumber => suggested_importance_level): 105078 => low, 105082 => low, 276517 => low, 276525 => low, 276529 => medium, 276530 =>  low, 293240 => medium
[18:23] <Ryan52> 01:22 -!- woody86<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu-bugs
[18:23] <Ryan52> 01:28 < Ryan52> and, can somebody change the status on 276534 to wont fix instead of invalid. I knew there was a won't fix, but not seeing it in the list made me think I was wrong...and now I figured out that  there is a status called wont't fix, but I just don't have permission to use it. -_-
[18:25] <nhandler> Ryan52: Done. I'll trust your judgement (since you are the Original-Maintainer)
[18:26] <Ryan52> yay! thanks so much! :)
[18:26] <nhandler> You're welcome Ryan52
[18:26] <nhandler> Thank you for your pacience
[18:27] <nhandler> Ryan52: Was that the only thing you needed done?
[18:28] <Ryan52> did you do these?
[18:28] <Ryan52> 10:23 < Ryan52> 01:15 < Ryan52> can somebody set some bug importances for me? here's my list (bugnumber => suggested_importance_level): 105078 => low, 105082 => low, 276517 => low, 276525 => low, 276529 =>  medium, 276530 =>  low, 293240 => medium
[18:28]  * Ryan52 only sees the "Wont fix" change
[18:28] <nhandler> No, I didn't see that list
[18:29] <nhandler> Give me a few minutes to go through it
[18:31] <nhandler> Why would 105082 be low?
[18:31] <Ryan52> seems like a "A cosmetic/usability issue that does not limit the functionality of an application" issue to me.
[18:32] <Ryan52> (to quote the wiki page)
[18:33] <nhandler> I don't know. I personally wouldn't consider having Esc close the application a bug. It was done intentionally. This bug report is asking for that feature to be changed. I personally would think of it more of a wishlist bug
[18:33] <Ryan52> okay, ya, I suppose so. I was debating about that one.
[18:34] <Ryan52> so ya, Wishlist is fine.
[18:36] <nhandler> Ryan52: Is there a reason Ubuntu Bugs is subscribed to 276517?
[18:37] <Ryan52> I didn't do it.
[18:39] <nhandler> And why is 276529 meant to be medium?
[18:41] <Ryan52> If it's honestly trying to ask that question, it would be quite confusing to not see the end.
[18:42] <nhandler> I still think it would be Low. It isn't honestly affecting the usability. The bug just makes a question confusing.
[18:42] <Ryan52> okay, go for it.
[18:45] <nhandler> Ryan52: I think I got all of the bugs in your list
[18:45] <Ryan52> yup, you did, thanks! :)
[18:45] <nhandler> You're welcome
[18:45] <Ryan52> gotta go, bye.
[18:46] <nhandler> Bye Ryan52
[19:22] <histo> Hello quick question. I've found a bug in yelp that has remerged with intrepid. The bug #112002 used to be around in fiesty and was fixed and closed.  So do I report a completely new bug? or do something else?
[19:26] <invalidrecord> hi i think this is a bona fide bug, its keepin me stuck in the office unable to leave anyway http://www.pastie.org/321477 its an issue with apamor and bind from what i can tell
[19:29] <histo> Alright well i marked the old bug as new and added a comment since no one is around hopefully this was proper.
[20:34] <angusthefuzz> can someone please mark bug 301054 -> low.  I think it also needs to be upstreamed.
[20:50] <angusthefuzz> actually, bug 301052 can also be set to low importance
[20:54] <nellery> angusthefuzz: done!
[21:04] <angusthefuzz> thanks nellery :-)
[21:04] <nellery> no problem
[23:23] <andresmujica> hey guys, how can i receive files via bluetooth from a nokia N95???
[23:24] <Hobbsee> #ubuntu for support?
[23:24] <andresmujica> hmm wrong channel sorry
[23:24] <andresmujica> yeap... :)


[01:43] <patrickw> obino1:  grepping for ERROR, it seems I am now getting 3 x ( 2 x [EUCAERROR ] vnetAttachTunnels(): bad input params && 1 x [EUCAERROR ] shawn(): network state maintainance failed) every 6 seconds...  Heading home.
[01:44] <patrickw> obino1:  I can start/stop instances though
[14:38] <kim0> smoser: hey o/
[14:38] <smoser> hi
[14:38] <kim0> smoser: I'm recording a screencast on the rebundling image thing
[14:38] <kim0> you did in cloud days
[14:39] <kim0> I'm facing trouble uec-publishing the image
[14:39] <kim0> getting
[14:39] <kim0> failed to check for existing manifest
[14:39] <kim0> any idea what's wrong
[14:40] <smoser> you dont have euca2ools setup up
[14:40] <smoser> or ec2 tools
[14:40] <smoser> it assumes environment is set up
[14:40] <kim0> hmm .. I have ec2 tools
[14:40] <kim0> ec2-describe-instances
[14:40] <kim0> work for instance
[14:40] <kim0> works*
[14:40] <smoser> ok. what command is failing ?
[14:41] <kim0> smoser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/588249/
[14:41] <kim0> smoser: if there's some "s3" specific aws env vars .. I probably don't have them though
[14:42] <kim0> never really used s3 before
[14:42] <smoser> http://ubuntu-smoser.blogspot.com/2011/01/using-euca2ools-rather-than-ec2-api.html
[14:42] <smoser> that shows config for euca2ools
[14:45] <kim0> smoser: hmm .. I'd rather finish the thing with ec2-api tools if that's possible ?
[14:45] <smoser> oh.
[14:45] <kim0> if you want .. ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:45] <smoser> i'm sorry . i thought you *were* using euca2ools
[14:46] <kim0> nope
[14:46] <kim0> I have a byobu session there
[14:53] <hallyn> kim0: (just fyi) in your proposed lxc fix for netbase, you were editing original source file, but you didn't do the needed quilt steps
[14:54] <hallyn> I only just noticed it now and have two other bugfixes on top of yours right now (merged into mine)  :)  will clean it up before proposing to zul for sponsoring
[14:54] <zul> cool
[14:54] <smoser> kim0, oops. did 'screen -d -r' and kicked you
[14:54] <kim0> np
[14:54] <smoser> my fingers just do that by default
[14:54] <kim0> back in
[14:55] <hallyn> zul: i'm going to do some extensive testing first, so probably will get it to you on monday
[14:56] <zul> hallyn: sounds good i can slack off til then ;)
[14:56] <hallyn> :)
[14:57] <hallyn> zul: or if you want i can hand you a bzr tree to test with yourself, make sure i don't break openstack somehow
[14:57] <zul> sure
[15:00] <hallyn> zul: actually the quilt stuff is not quite right anyway.  THe top patch needed a refresh.  Should I go ahead and roll that refrsh into the commit for kim0's bug?  (i'll do that by default unless you say that's wrong)
[15:01] <smoser> kim0, bug 665667 is what stops you from using euca2ools on ec2
[15:01] <zul> do it
[15:01] <hallyn> rock
[15:09] <smoser> kim0, you just want things to break, man
[15:09] <smoser> we package things for a reason
[15:16] <kim0> smoser: using packages now ..
[15:17] <hallyn> dum dee dum.  bzr decided it should repack on my latest, small, debcommit -r -R.  Boy is this slow.
[15:18] <hallyn> I suppose it is repacking for all of the bzr trees I keep under that directory
[15:23] <hallyn> still going
[15:24] <hallyn> wish it would have asked me.  I'd have told it to wait until after my push, which was my next, and last, step.
[15:31] <hallyn> zul: lp:~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/natty/lxc/lxc-fix-3bugs
[15:32] <zul> cool beans!
[15:34] <hallyn> zul: i suppose it's way too late to sneak in a new feature (lxc-clone) :)
[15:34] <zul> hallyn: probably :(
[16:17] <jmgalloway> can anyone tell me where to find handlers.c?
[16:58] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: howdy! should I rsync this "uec-images.ubuntu.com::uec-images/natty/current" for the images to be used in publish-bud?
[17:02] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, you want something for testing ?
[17:04] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: yeah... I'm testing the scripts and get and error of no manifests
[17:04] <RoAkSoAx> so i need the images
[17:04] <RoAkSoAx> and manifest
[17:04] <RoAkSoAx> right?
[17:09] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, hold on
[17:09] <smoser> no manifests ?
[17:09] <smoser> what error do you get?
[17:10] <kim0> jmgalloway: hi, what's you talking about
[17:10] <kim0> s/'s/'re/ :)
[17:11]  * RoAkSoAx is lagged
[17:13] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, on nectarine, get /home/smoser/out.tar.gz
[17:13] <smoser> that was created from generate-fake-publish-base
[17:14] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: could not find prefix based on *.manifest for test -> Do I need to rsync "uec-images.ubuntu.com::uec-images/natty/current" to start the publishing
[17:15] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: ok cool, but unfortunately I don't have my ssh keys here :S as I'm using another laptop that the one I usually use
[17:15] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: so cant access nectarine
[17:17] <smoser> ok. i can put it somewhere.
[17:18] <RoAkSoAx> ok cool
[18:27] <kim0> SpamapS: Hi Clint .. on the server boot email, you had mentioned counting "main" packages that have sysv scripts
[18:27] <kim0> i.e. restricting   apt-file search /etc/init.d| wc -l
[18:27] <kim0> to only "main" ... can you please let me know how you did that
[18:32] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, http://smoser.brickies.net/publish-root.tar.gz
[18:32] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: thanks ;)
[18:40] <SpamapS> kim0: I just dug through the Contents file myself
[18:40] <SpamapS> kim0: it has universe/main in it..
[18:40] <kim0> SpamapS: if you could locate your code snippet .. it'd be awesome :)
[18:41] <kim0> otherwise .. I'll try to do it
[18:43] <SpamapS> zgrep '^etc/init.d/' /var/cache/apt/apt-file/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_Contents-amd64.gz| egrep -v '\suniverse/'
[18:44] <SpamapS> oh I think I did multiverse too
[18:45] <kim0> SpamapS: kewl .. that should get me started .. thanks man :)
[18:45] <SpamapS> number is probably closer to 208
[18:56] <hallyn> zul: new package works fine for me, so when you feel all right with it, please do push
[18:56] <zul> k will do
[20:59] <hallyn> kirkland: hey, so have you noticed how, on x86-64, when you do 'kvm' you get 64-bit, but when you do just 'qemu' you get 32-bit?
[21:00] <hallyn> kirkland: does that bother you at all?
[21:00] <hallyn> kirkland: normally i'd say "that's fine", but that means that <emulator>/usr/bin/qemu</emulator> on a kvm-capable machine does 64-bit, but on kvm-incapable (or just kvm not loaded) you get 32-bit, and sometimes silent mysterious boot hangs
[22:18] <SpamapS> smoser: interesting, I just got the 'udevd[63]: worker [68] did not accept message -1 (Connection refused), kill it' message on a VM


[23:04] <XHFHX> the last thing I did was switching with prime-select to nvidia - after that I got into trouble. and installing some nvidia drivers i think via apt-get was before that
[23:04] <sam_uk> EriC^^: unable to locate wine1.7-tools, couldn't find package by glob wine1.7-tools, unable to find by regex wine1.7-tools
[23:05] <EriC^^> sam_uk: oh sorry
[23:05] <EriC^^> sam_uk: try sudo apt-get -f remove wine1.7{,-amd64,-i386} wine64-tools
[23:05] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: Let;s see what we can do to load a driver for skylake .
[23:05] <sam_uk> without tools: http://termbin.com/ggxq
[23:06] <EriC^^> sam_uk: try sudo apt-get -f remove wine1.7{,-amd64,-i386} wine64-tools wine32:i386 wine64
[23:06] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: checking : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1565516 .
[23:07] <sam_uk> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/0fo9
[23:08] <XHFHX> Bashing-om: Sorry, I skipped trough it but it seems that you can't activate the nvidia card right now. I only need it for CUDA purposes if at all - but how can i switch to the skylake GPU back?
[23:10] <EriC^^> sam_uk: try the last one i posted
[23:10] <sam_uk> EriC^^: Output of that was: http://termbin.com/0fo9
[23:11] <sam_uk> oh sorry missed that
[23:11] <sam_uk> one sec
[23:12] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: Trying to pull from memory now about a skylake driver , bear with me :) ( maybe the PPA driver will work for nvidia ?) .
[23:12] <sam_uk> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/9yjg
[23:13] <EriC^^> sam_uk: wow the never ending wine packages
[23:13] <sam_uk> add wine-stable?
[23:13] <EriC^^> sam_uk: try sudo apt-get -f remove wine1.7{,-amd64,-i386} wine64-tools wine32:i386 wine64 wine-stable
[23:14] <EriC^^> yeah
[23:15] <sam_uk> this is looking promising :)
[23:15] <sam_uk> EriC^^: Thanks random stranger. Have a virtual beer.
[23:15] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: OK, try ' sudo apt install i965-va-driver ' - system is fully updated from above, correct ).
[23:15] <XHFHX> should be
[23:16] <XHFHX> is already installed
[23:17] <EriC^^> sam_uk: cheers
[23:18] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: Weel ! We wonder then why it does not load . any hints in the log file : ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc ternbin.com 9999 ' .
[23:22] <XHFHX> Bashin-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25273167/
[23:22] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: Reading - I be a while ;)
[23:25] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: Getting deep Here ! " (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) " and also same for Intel " (EE) Failed to load module "intel" (module does not exist, 0) " .
[23:27] <XHFHX> Bashing-om: Doesnt sound good :D
[23:27] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: ^^ how are you setting the nomodeset boot parameter ? Maybe remove it and try a nornal boot - thought; can you disable the discreet card in bios and see if you can then boot ?
[23:28] <oerheks> 'messed with nvidiadrivers' ..
[23:29] <oerheks> How exactly?
[23:29] <XHFHX> prime-select nvidia and made sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and I think he pulled some nvidria drivers there (I have it in my repository)
[23:30] <XHFHX> Bashing-om: Without nomodeset I'll get a freezing login screen after 2 seconds
[23:30] <Bashing-om> oerheks: I see no fix : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1565516 . But that does not explain why the Intel driver does not build .
[23:31] <XHFHX> doesn't accept any keyboard input in this case so i can't get into the shell or fix anything
[23:33] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: I propose we work on getting the Intel driver to load and get you a working system - then work on nvidia . Can you disable nvidia in bios ?
[23:33] <arooni> i have some user accounts for different services but i see the option to log in as those users on startup;  how can i disable login for those service accounts
[23:34] <histo> arooni: Did you create the accounts?
[23:34] <arooni> histo: i did
[23:35] <histo> arooni: you can specify the -r flag with useradd
[23:35] <histo> arooni: and -s /bin/false to disable the shell
[23:35] <oerheks> arooni, hide the users list on login/lightdm? https://askubuntu.com/a/731455
[23:36] <arooni> histo: so once the account is already created
[23:36] <arooni> how do i modify it to disable the shell
[23:36] <histo> arooni: in the future sudo useradd -r -s /bin/false USERNAME
[23:37] <histo> arooni: usermod
[23:37] <XHFHX> Bashing-om: I think I'll just reinstall the whole system :/
[23:37] <arooni> histo: same flags work?
[23:38] <arooni> i.e. sudo usermod -r -s /bin/false username
[23:38] <XHFHX> can't deactivate the nvidia gpu in bios
[23:38] <jnewt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25273228/  tried to install wine, that's what I got.do i need to install mariadb-server-10.0 & mariadb-server first or is this a problem with my libEGL.so.1 not being a symlink or both? and how to fix it?
[23:39] <histo> arooni: yes
[23:40] <jnewt> i checked that nvidia folder, I have a symlink from libEGL.so to libEGL.so.1, but no libEGL.so.1 but I don't know what either of those are for or what is the proper set of files in that folder.
[23:41] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: If a re-install is acceptable, will be the fastest . With the open bug I would suggest in the new Install to get the nvidia driver from the PPA .
[23:42] <XHFHX> Bashing-om: I followed this approach: https://github.com/Golovin-Andrey/xiaomi-mi-13-ubuntu
[23:42] <histo> arooni: or you could usermod -L USERNAME
[23:44] <Bashing-om> jnewt: Need to redo the symlinks : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-375/+bug/1662860 .
[23:45] <jnewt> Bashing-om: yeah, found that got it done, still getting the mariadb error (but the libEGL is gone)
[23:47] <oerheks> XHFHX, sure you can blacklist nvidia, see intel only from the arch wiki https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xiaomi_Mi_Notebook_Air_13.3
[23:47] <Bashing-om> XHFHX: This a minimal build and a ACER laptop ? and yes the link has our trusted driver PPA .
[23:49] <XHFHX> oerheks: always heard nice stuff of the arch wiki but never seen it before. its fabolous
[23:50] <jnewt> I found this: https://serverfault.com/questions/736419/cant-install-mariadb-dependency-error and ran apt-get clean (OK) apt-get autoclean (OK) and dpkg -i mariadb-server-10.0 (cannot access archive...) and dpkg-reconfigure mariadb-server-10.0 (mariadb-server-10.0 is broken or not fully installed)


[00:18] <pauljw> hi everyone
[02:57] <Bashing-om> Gnite all, do this once more tomorrow .
[04:49] <SeriouslyLaugh> anyone know what happened to daftykins? haven't seen him around lately
[08:53] <daftykins> mmm rumours of my death are greatly exaggerated ;)
[08:53] <daftykins> morning team o/
[08:53] <EriC^^> morning :)
[08:54] <daftykins> oy, i just walked a mile carrying my sub to a repair shop
[08:54] <daftykins> my arms feel like snapped elastic bands :P
[08:54] <EriC^^> lol
[08:59] <daftykins> i was at my old college gathering last night, christmas time event... my old lecturer i used to teach with asked me if i'd be a part time technician looking after the IT lecturing staff's virtualisation server, a pretty beefy box that runs Microsoft's Hyper-V =
[08:59] <daftykins> -=
[08:59] <Tarminquay> Hello.
[09:00] <daftykins> i'm not fond of the tech but it could be fun
[09:00] <Tarminquay> Will I be enjoying my Ubuntu experience (Kubuntu) with an N3150 processor?
[09:02] <EriC^^> cool
[09:10] <daftykins> still not on topic :)
[09:54] <n1cky> Are people really happy with the PPA model for bleeding edge / fringe software?
[09:55] <n1cky> I'm coming from a year of using arch, back on ubuntu because so many times building some random software will give me a list of packages from apt, and using an LTS ubuntu is a good way to get consistent builds
[09:55] <n1cky> (for example, the chromium build chroot suggests using ubuntu and I've had problems in the past not using ubuntu)
[09:55] <daftykins> what are you trying to run newer versions of?
[09:56] <n1cky> It's not that I want to run newer versions of anything, I just build a good amount of software from source and I find it annoying that theres not a great way to register that into apt
[09:57] <n1cky> the arch linux pkgbuild model is fantastic imo, I'm surprised there's not an analgous dpkg model
[09:58] <daftykins> doesn't 'check install' or some other action generate packages instead of just compile and install direct?
[10:01] <n1cky> hey that's really nice
[10:01] <n1cky> thanks for that, i never knew about that
[10:01] <daftykins> no problemo :)
[10:01] <daftykins> i've no idea on its' efficacy first hand, but eh, see how it goes
[10:02] <n1cky> i wanted to run neovim, for example, because I use some vim plugins that take advantage of the async it provides
[10:02] <n1cky> and I'm just kind of skeptical of adding some random repository to my system
[10:02] <daftykins> *nod* it's a pain when only shifty PPAs are out there
[10:02] <daftykins> i think i use one for makemkv on my HTPC :D
[10:03] <n1cky> See take that as an example, I'm on my arch laptop right now, and `cower -s makemkv` searches the AUR for that package
[10:04] <n1cky> cower -d makemkv downloads the pkgbuild to ./makemkv
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> morning guys
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> quick in and out today
[10:04] <daftykins> \o
[10:04] <daftykins> heyup
[10:04] <n1cky> i go into that directory, makepkg -s, which checks it out from source and packages it
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins :p
[10:04] <n1cky> just so nice.
[10:05] <daftykins> n1cky: trouble with that is it's like gentoo no, relies on someone having updated a template for fetching and compiling a given version, no?
[10:06] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: been asked to manage a microsoft hyper-v server, ewww ;)
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> ouch
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: get alot of request lately dont you :p
[10:06] <daftykins> indeed!
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> good sign :p
[10:06] <daftykins> ran into another lecturer i used to teach with, he wants a part-timer to look after it
[10:07] <daftykins> when i used to teach i had to use it too, it was a mess ;)
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> :p
[10:07] <daftykins> someone in IT support had installed Windows to the RAID10 array and put the VM storage on a single disk, instead of the other way around >_<
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> we still hunting for new house, where i can start the ubuntu shop
[10:07] <daftykins> ah har
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: is that the guy TJ- helped with all his ssd's?
[10:08] <n1cky> daftykins: yeah
[10:09] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: the one i'm referring to? nah
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> kk
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: you dont see raid10 every day on irc thats why :p
[10:09] <daftykins> ^_^
[10:10] <daftykins> i play with RAID a lot <3
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> nice to know, might come handy one day
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: desktops or servers?
[10:11] <daftykins> always file servers ja
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> :p
[10:11] <daftykins> well i don't use Linux RAID setups at all really, or at least not to manage the RAID... mostly hardware controller based
[10:11] <daftykins> like my lovely (but ageing) 3ware 9650SEs
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> never did linux raid myself
[10:12] <daftykins> just bought an office 365 license for someone off amazon UK, got the license on her account immediately, hid the email so she doesn't know it's her christmas present... and then installed it on her christmas present MS Surface ;)
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> nice
[10:14] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> personally i dont liek those surfaces
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: hey mate
[10:15] <daftykins> no, like all tablets they're very toy like
[10:15] <daftykins> it was nice seeing one in the flesh, but... yeah no, glad i originally swayed her off this and onto the Lenovo X1 Carbon instead
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> lenovo is nice
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> i wish i could find cheap lenovo or hp barebones for my business
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> but ordering one by one is hard to find
[10:20] <daftykins> Lenovo have lost favour with a lot of folk due to all the things they've been doing to their systems
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> bbl dinner have a nice one
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:24] <Tarminquay> Is there a sleep finctiom in ubintu?
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> afternoon mates
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> !find amdgpu
[14:19] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[17:00] <slidinghorn> My google fu is no match for TJ-'s "I actually know this stuff" fu....
[17:01] <nicomachus> ^^
[17:01] <TJ-> LOL ... right ... now imagine the quantum of frustration I've suffered!
[17:45]  * slidinghorn hears "shutdown...forcefully" and immediately thinks "...with a sledge hammer"
[18:46] <daftykins> that'll fix it for good.
[18:47] <daftykins> evening all o/
[18:47] <daftykins> my my what an eventful day
[18:47] <daftykins> TJ-: one sub carried a mile to a repair shop ;)
[18:52] <nicomachus> get those ipads taken care of?
[18:53] <daftykins> oh man that was actually way harder than it should've been
[18:53] <nicomachus> lol
[18:53] <daftykins> as i didn't have a laptop with me, due to carrying lots of networking tools for the day... i was first trying to download this app that lets you transfer photos over the same wifi network
[18:54] <daftykins> hit a brick wall as ipad #2 which was being sold (thus the reason for taking the pics off it) was tied to the owners father's Apple ID - and though he shared the password, the device then demanded to be 'unlocked' by his security questions being entered
[18:54] <daftykins> he evidently didn't know or didn't fancy coughing those up, so i then had to cave and use someones laptop which i see iPads only allow read only access to the photos of, so i could put them on a flash drive but not onto the destination iPad
[18:55] <daftykins> (i wasn't willing to contaminate this persons laptop with iTunes)
[18:55] <nicomachus> gotta love Apple...
[18:55] <daftykins> so then the ideal end would've been to factory reset the first iPad with the view for it to be given to the person it was sold to, but that too was locked down to the Apple ID before it could be reset, so i had to just give it back saying "you'll need to bend your dad's ear"
[18:56] <daftykins> so he has to either follow instructions in an email or enter security question answers in order to hit factory reset, so it can be sold
[18:56] <daftykins> quite the drama :D
[18:58] <nicomachus> well you missed me spending 5-6 hours trouble-shooting a problem with Unity, only to find out the user had the Cairo-Dock DE selected from the login screen the whole time, instead of Unity.
[19:00] <daftykins> >_<
[19:00] <daftykins> #ubuntu would be ace without the users :)
[19:00] <nicomachus> she was super nice, though... haha. it was her husband's PC and he had a stoke recently so had bad memory and couldn't remember what he did to mess up Unity.
[19:01] <daftykins> ah right
[19:01] <daftykins> hmm i might've encountered that one once before, she messages as he can't control his hands so well or speak or something
[19:01] <nicomachus> and I learned a few things along the way.
[19:02] <daftykins> \o/
[20:56] <nicomachus> *sigh*... "I need to install a program that I didn't even download!"
[20:59] <daftykins> o0
[20:59] <daftykins> forgot it was the weekend, HERE BE DRAGONS!
[21:04]  * nicomachus bangs his head on the desk
[21:07] <nicomachus> whoa. pastebin.ubuntu.com??
[21:09] <daftykins> you can increase your efficiency by using just 'paste :D
[21:09] <daftykins> oops missing characters today, ah well i'm keeping you on your toes
[21:11] <nicomachus> paste.ubuntu.com redirects now.
[21:12] <daftykins> hmm didn't have that here
[21:16] <nicomachus> hmm... investigating.
[21:19] <daftykins> yep the crazy folk are in full force, abandon ship!
[21:20] <EriC^^> lol
[21:20] <EriC^^> tux protect us
[21:21] <daftykins> :D
[21:21] <daftykins> oh Tux, give us a shell that can weather these users
[21:29] <nicomachus> from #canonical-sysadmin:
[21:29] <nicomachus> 15:29 <@neale> I didn't realize there was a paste.ubuntu.com
[21:30] <nicomachus> lol, wat?
[21:32] <daftykins> well, that's the two of you assessed from a systems analyst point of view and efficiency increased by no longer typing 3 characters more... my invoice for 1,000 cookies is in the post
[21:32] <daftykins> my work here is done ¬_¬
[21:37] <nicomachus> there goes that UK-exclusive emoticon.
[21:38] <daftykins> the whaaaa?
[21:38] <nicomachus> US keyboards don't have that key. haha
[21:38] <daftykins> oh yes :D
[21:39] <nicomachus> well apparently there was a permanent redirect rule put in place in May 2015 to redirect paste.ubuntu.com to pastebin.ubuntu.com... I guess it was slow to catch.
[22:05] <daftykins> hrmm
[22:05] <daftykins> funky
[22:05] <daftykins> alright, goodnight team o/
[22:06] <nicomachus> night
[22:26] <Bashing-om> Ready or not, here I come .
[22:26] <nicomachus> good luck....
[22:27] <OerHeks> Yes, lets turn up some music, baby
[22:27] <Bashing-om> Rock And Roll !
[22:28] <OerHeks> Roll over Beethoven
[22:29] <nicomachus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4avM0qzEF5I
[22:31] <Bashing-om> " < sparqz> " has a failure to communicate ... in general !
[22:32] <nicomachus> he's sparky.
[22:36] <nicomachus> I made this for him: https://i.imgur.com/qbp4oLr.png


[00:07] <shakes808> I looked throught the system logs and didn't see anything wierd.
[00:34] <rick_h_> shakes808: I'd bet ssh key issue
[00:34] <rick_h_> it's going to time out trying to auth if you leave it forever I bet
[00:34] <rick_h_> or you've got something in your ssh config messing things up. Try using https for hte urls vs git@ and see if that makes any diff
[00:34] <shakes808> Hello rick_h_,  I created a new one and associated on my computer and on GitHub
[00:35] <shakes808> I will look into that
[00:35] <shakes808> I seen you are shutting Bookie down.  Why?
[00:35] <rick_h_> shakes808: understood, but unless you're using it on other repos just peachy I'd suspect that imo
[00:35] <rick_h_> shakes808: just shutting down hosting everyone's stuff for free. I've been paying for it for a number of years as my 'hobby' but no time these days for it to be hobby space
[00:35] <shakes808> That I am not.  New computer and trying to get things set back up to hack on my own stuff again
[00:36] <rick_h_> so honestly just want to not be responsible for keeping it up, everyone's data backed up, and paying for the two servers it runs on
[00:36] <rick_h_> shakes808: gotcha
[00:36] <shakes808> Gotcha.  Understandable.
[00:36] <shakes808> No one wanted to help contribute?
[00:37] <rick_h_> shakes808: well, I think people like the idea but it's my baby and I can't make the time for it.
[00:37] <shakes808> could have a small subscription fee ;)
[00:37] <rick_h_> the reason to run a hosted version for folks was that it was 0 effort
[00:37] <shakes808> Gotcha.
[00:37] <rick_h_> so people used it, add effort and I bet most would not have used it
[00:37] <rick_h_> shakes808: yea, thought about that. But there were some 500 people with bookmarks, if 10% payed $10/yr I'd be going through it for $500 a year
[00:37] <shakes808> How did the students do with it? (interns or whatever you had)
[00:38] <rick_h_> and then people would be justified in "I"m paying for htis...why isn't bug XXX fixed"
[00:38] <rick_h_> they did great. The google summer of code was one of the best (and hardest) things I'd done with bookie
[00:38] <shakes808> Ah
[00:38] <shakes808> Sweet.  What is your next project?
[00:38] <rick_h_> getting a kayak next week :)
[00:39] <rick_h_> trying to work hard on getting outdoors as much as possible this summer
[00:39] <rick_h_> good for the work/life balance and teaching the boy to enjoy getting outside
[00:39] <shakes808> Sweet!  Lake or River Kayak?
[00:39] <rick_h_> come this winter we might see.
[00:39] <rick_h_> lake around here, but one that I can take on rivers as well
[00:39] <shakes808> Cool.
[00:39] <rick_h_> mostly for fishing, but the wife and I do like going on the au sable and such
[00:40] <shakes808> I take my boy "camping" at Stony Creek.  I want to get out on some state land soon :)
[00:40] <shakes808> Have you hit up the Field and Steam yet?
[00:40] <rick_h_> yea, we've been using the camper for the last bit. We're on our 3rd summer with it
[00:40] <rick_h_> hah no
[00:40] <rick_h_> I grew up reading that though
[00:40] <rick_h_> right now checking out kyak angler on the tablet :)
[00:41] <shakes808> They opened up a shop at Oakland.
[00:41] <shakes808> New building and all
[00:41] <shakes808> Almost like Outdoor World / Bass Pro Shop up at Great Lakes
[00:41] <shakes808> but less of a drive )
[00:41] <shakes808> :)
[00:41] <rick_h_> oh yea, pass by that on the way to CHCD
[00:41] <rick_h_> CHC
[00:41] <rick_h_> but the bass pro shops is a lot closer to me
[00:42] <rick_h_> I'll probably hit it up at some point just to check it out, but it's a half hour + from me
[00:42] <shakes808> Where are you guys hacking now?  I was in that area the other day and the coffee shop was vacant.  I thought it was changing to a new coffee shop.
[00:42] <rick_h_> we've been in the royal oak 'bean and leaf' for the last year or so?
[00:43] <shakes808> Oh, thought you lived out this way.  I know I see CMaloney from time to time.  It has been a while since the last sighting
[00:43] <rick_h_> yea, I'm up north by DTE energy
[00:43] <rick_h_> I always drive down for CHC
[00:43] <rick_h_> it was setup down south to get other folks, I like driving :)
[00:43] <shakes808> Gotcha.  I will have to stop in one day if I can break away from work at a decent time
[00:43] <rick_h_> though wed night has turned into fishing night for me and looking forward to getting the kayal this week
[00:44] <rick_h_> heh, it's at 8pm
[00:44] <rick_h_> if that's not a decent time to stop work I don't know what is
[00:44] <shakes808> :|
[00:44] <shakes808> yeah
[00:44] <shakes808> Last Thursday I got out around 6 and then had to go back in at 8:30 for some database changes.  I was there until 1AM
[00:45] <shakes808> My schedule is all FUBAR
[00:46] <shakes808> One of the reasons for me to mess around with NodeJS.  There is an opening at a place down the street and they gave me an assignment and trying feverishly to learn and get that complete
[00:46] <shakes808> Trying to leave the place I am at now
[01:00] <cmaloney> Evening everyone
[01:00] <cmaloney> it's 9pm and time for meeting
[01:02] <cmaloney> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-mi/916/detail/
[01:02] <cmaloney> There's the agenda
[01:02] <cmaloney> as you can see, there's not a whole lot on the agenda. :)
[01:05] <cmaloney> So if there's something anyone would like to bring up please feel free.
[01:08] <waldo323> I don't have anything to add
[03:12] <shakes808> Had to reload my browser, not sure if this sent.
[03:12] <shakes808> Can anyone take a look at http://pastebin.com/0J6u12gU
[03:12] <shakes808> I don't know what I am missing.
[03:13] <shakes808> It is a NodeJS tutorial.  NodeJS's solution is on top and mine is on the bottom.
[13:33] <cmaloney> mornin'
[13:37] <rick_h_> party
[13:37] <wolfger> woo!
[17:23] <wolfger> awfully quiet party
[17:23] <rick_h_> library party
[20:23] <mrgoodcat> hrm... it appears something happened that should not have happened...
[20:32] <cmaloney> ?
[20:52] <cscheib> that sounds like the way a Canadian would phrase an error message for a scenario they hadn't accounted for