[00:26] <stlsaint> yo yo yo
[00:27] <lukjad86> stlsaint !
[00:27] <stlsaint> lukjad86: sup man
[00:27] <lukjad86> stlsaint I made a remix vid on youtube that is pretty popular
[00:29] <stlsaint> lukjad86: remix of what?
[00:29] <lukjad86> stlsaint Well, kinda hard to explain...
[00:30] <lukjad86> afk
[00:32] <stlsaint> lukjad86: LOL...classic
[00:32] <lukjad86> stlsaint thanks! :D
[00:54] <stlsaint> anyone around?
[00:55] <ddecator> maybe
[00:56] <stlsaint> hey is the nameservers listed in /etc/resolv..
[00:57] <ddecator> the nameservers?
[00:58] <stlsaint> nevermind i found them
[01:07] <stlsaint> alright where is all my smart networking people....
[01:21] <ZachK_> hello iantlopp
[01:21] <iantlopp> a'lo Zach...
[01:21] <iantlopp> finally getting ubuntu running well enough to be my main OS... I'm so stoked!
[01:22] <iantlopp> eventually I'll get to wine, but for right now, I'm trying to figure out why flash slows down firefox to a bloody crawl... never really had a problem with it in Windows.
[01:22] <stlsaint> iantlopp: congrats...
[01:22] <iantlopp> err.. on this machine.
[01:23] <ZachK_> hey starcraftman
[01:23] <ZachK_> i mean stlsaint
[01:23]  * ZachK_ hates tabfail
[01:23] <ZachK_> iantlopp: ok...so need some help then?
[01:23] <iantlopp> the strange thing is... it seems to be loading related... i.e. I go to youtube.com and start watching a vid... system slows down to nothing and jerks around, etc... IF I pause the vid and let it load for a bit, then everything works fine.
[01:23] <iantlopp> yep :)
[01:23] <ZachK_> hmm
[01:24] <iantlopp> it doesn't seem to want to buffer video either... it starts playing it almost immediately, and my net connection always has to buffer for 15+ seconds before it starts playing in Windows...
[01:24] <iantlopp> (you can blame the almighty Comcast for that)
[01:25] <iantlopp> just installed adblock plus, so I'm hoping that'll have some helpful effect on this.
[01:25] <iantlopp> brb, gonna test a vid.
[01:26] <iantlopp> okay, definitely an improvement...
[01:26] <iantlopp> but it still takes 2-3 seconds to get into and out of full screen mode :(
[01:27]  * iantlopp wonders if compiz might have something to do with this...
[01:28]  * iantlopp dies a little inside.
[01:28] <iantlopp> go fig... turn off compiz. fluid flash
[01:29] <iantlopp> aside from abusing the processor, why would compiz really have much affect on flash? (compiz *should* be using my laptop's GPU mostly, as opposed to the CPU, and flash is CPU intensive comparatively.
[01:33] <ddecator> the graphics driver makes a difference too
[01:34] <iantlopp> using the proprietary ATI driver that the system recommended.
[01:34] <iantlopp> the laptop is an HP Pavilion dv2-1030us, has an Ati Radeon 3000 gpu
[01:34] <iantlopp> err 3000 series
[01:36] <iantlopp> out of curiosity, is anyone familiar with an old XP program called Sphere XP?
[01:38] <iantlopp> in CCSM, what's GLib?
[01:40] <ROFLCOPTERS> sup.
[01:44] <iantlopp> nada too much... just trying to figure out some issues
[01:44] <ROFLCOPTERS> orly
[01:44] <iantlopp> ysrly
[01:44] <ROFLCOPTERS> iantlopp, tell plz
[01:44] <iantlopp> wondering why compiz would have such a great effect on flash in firefox
[01:45] <iantlopp> turn compiz off... flash is smooth as hell, turn it back on... slows the computer down when I try to do anything with flash
[01:45] <iantlopp> youtube grinds to a halt to start a video...
[01:45] <iantlopp> it seems to be improving with time (dunno why) but it takes a few seconds just to go full screen and get back.
[01:45] <ROFLCOPTERS> wtf
[01:46] <ROFLCOPTERS> are u noob?
[01:46] <ROFLCOPTERS> y u need compiz
[01:47] <iantlopp> yes... yes I noob...
[01:47] <iantlopp> I happen to like compiz... at least its gimmickyness for now...
[01:48] <iantlopp> but I have reasons to like XGL to begin with, and compiz is a means to an end... there's a 3d interface I'd *like* to see, as it worked well for what it did a few years back (called Sphere XP if anyone remembers it).
[01:48] <iantlopp> But... now I'm just more curious as to why something that *should* use mostly the GPU would hamper something that uses the cpu almost exclusively.
[01:48] <C-Ray> hello
[01:49] <iantlopp> a'lo C-Ray
[01:49] <C-Ray> please I just installed virtualbox 3.2 on my ubuntu 9.10
[01:49] <C-Ray> but am not able to run it
[01:49] <ROFLCOPTERS> iantlop
[01:49] <ROFLCOPTERS> iantlop
[01:49] <ROFLCOPTERS> what version of flash u usin
[01:49] <C-Ray> no shortcut
[01:49] <iantlopp> roflcopters: and yes, to answer your question, I very noob... this is the first time I've got linux running on this system well enough to become my primary OS
[01:49] <ROFLCOPTERS> OH WOW.
[01:49] <iantlopp> latest version... just installed it last night.
[01:50] <ROFLCOPTERS> how
[01:50] <ROFLCOPTERS> how did u install
[01:50] <iantlopp> apt-get
[01:50] <ROFLCOPTERS> o
[01:50] <ROFLCOPTERS> y dnt u try new 10.1 beta
[01:50] <C-Ray> I checked the synaptic manager
[01:50] <C-Ray> everything looks alright
[01:50] <C-Ray> how to launch it though?
[01:50] <ROFLCOPTERS> dipship
[01:51] <ROFLCOPTERS> shit*
 sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:51] <ROFLCOPTERS> applications >> system tools
[01:51] <ROFLCOPTERS> and
[01:51] <ROFLCOPTERS> wth u usin 9.10?
[01:51] <iantlopp> wait... roflcopters: are you talking to me or c-ray?
[01:51] <C-Ray> yeah am using 9.10
[01:51] <ROFLCOPTERS> iantlopp, im telling u to try new flash
[01:51] <C-Ray> but no shortcut is created
[01:52] <C-Ray> I installed the .deb package for ubuntu 9.10
[01:52] <ROFLCOPTERS> ok then fuck the .deb and get the .bin or launch it from cmd line
[01:52] <ROFLCOPTERS> or
[01:52] <ROFLCOPTERS> make a shortcut
[01:52] <C-Ray> well am not able to find it to make a shortcut
[01:52] <ROFLCOPTERS> ffs
[01:53] <ROFLCOPTERS> DO YOU KNOW HOW TO OPEN A COMMAND LINE?
[01:53] <C-Ray> yes
[01:53] <ROFLCOPTERS> cool
[01:53] <C-Ray> take it easy
[01:53] <ROFLCOPTERS> run the command 'VirtualBox'
[01:53] <ROFLCOPTERS> srsly..
[01:54] <ROFLCOPTERS> do u know how to create a launcher?
[01:54] <ZachK_> ROFLCOPTERS: if you cannot be polite and respectful then leave
[01:54] <C-Ray> well obviously it will say it is not installed
[01:54] <C-Ray> since the version that ubuntu 9.10 supports is 3.08
[01:54] <C-Ray> and not 3.2
[01:54] <ROFLCOPTERS> C-Ray, ok just try and run that command to see if it's installed
[01:54] <ROFLCOPTERS> C-Ray, ok just try and run that command to see if it's installed
[01:54] <ROFLCOPTERS> C-Ray, ok just try and run that command to see if it's installed
[01:54] <C-Ray> it is nit
[01:54] <C-Ray> *not
[01:54] <ROFLCOPTERS> ok
[01:55] <C-Ray> I told you
[01:55] <C-Ray> but the package it is installed
[01:55] <ROFLCOPTERS> ok
[01:55] <ROFLCOPTERS> remove the package
[01:55] <C-Ray> I saw it in the synaptic manager
[01:55] <ROFLCOPTERS> remove the package
[01:55] <C-Ray> ok
[01:55] <C-Ray> though I tried that
[01:55] <C-Ray> but anyway
[01:55] <C-Ray> after that?
[01:55] <ROFLCOPTERS> k
[01:55] <ROFLCOPTERS> now run
[01:56] <iantlopp> c-ray: I actually had the same problem yesterday with ccsm... synaptics said it was installed but aptitude said it was not... as synaptics is just a gui to aptitude, I'd have imagined them to say the same thing... but check aptitude to see if it's actually installed.
[01:56] <C-Ray> oh I see
[01:56] <C-Ray> so you think synaptic is just reporting
[01:56] <C-Ray> ...
[01:56] <C-Ray> well
[01:56] <ROFLCOPTERS> 'wget http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/3.2.0/VirtualBox-3.2.0-61806-Linux_x86.run;chmod a+x VirtualBox-3.2.0-61806-Linux_x86.run;sudo sh VirtualBox-3.2.0-61806-Linux_x86.run'
[01:56] <iantlopp> I'm thinking it's reporting improperly, though i don't know why.
[01:56] <ROFLCOPTERS> can u handle that?
[01:57] <C-Ray> ok thanks, I will try that
[01:57] <C-Ray> ;D
[01:57] <ROFLCOPTERS> and after you do that shit
[01:57] <ROFLCOPTERS> then do
[01:57] <ROFLCOPTERS> 'sudo apt-get install dkms'
[01:57] <ROFLCOPTERS> so that the kernel module will stay installed
[01:57] <iantlopp> I'm still learning apt, but so far, it's been flawless... dunno how to use it to see what is or is not installed other than to try to install something with it.
[01:57] <ROFLCOPTERS> when you do upgrades and shit
[01:57] <ZachK_> !language | ROFLCOPTERS
[01:57] <Votebot> ROFLCOPTERS: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:57] <ROFLCOPTERS> omg Votebot
[01:57] <ROFLCOPTERS> lol
[01:57] <ROFLCOPTERS> didnt read that btw
[01:58] <ROFLCOPTERS> but anyways..
[01:58] <stlsaint> iantlopp: what are you trying to do?
[01:58] <ROFLCOPTERS> stlsaint, his flash slow with compiz
[01:58] <pleia2> ROFLCOPTERS: your help style is a bit aggressive, can you please listen to ZachK_ and tone it down a bit?
[01:58] <iantlopp> at the moment, trying to determine, in a purely mental capacity, why Compiz has much to do with why Flash is slow.
[01:58] <ROFLCOPTERS> PRINCESS LEIA
[01:58] <ROFLCOPTERS> didnt read.
[01:58] <C-Ray> well I am installing it now
[01:58] <ROFLCOPTERS> C-Ray, cool.
[01:59] <ROFLCOPTERS> u removed the deb right?
[01:59] <C-Ray> yeah
[01:59] <stlsaint> compiz is a bit of a hog in general... hehe
[01:59] <ROFLCOPTERS> cool.
[01:59] <ROFLCOPTERS> yeah once you like
[01:59] <iantlopp> stlsaint: I'm beginning to understand that...
[01:59] <ROFLCOPTERS> figure out nobody cares about your desktop
[01:59] <ROFLCOPTERS> then you'll rm compiz
[01:59] <ROFLCOPTERS> it took me like.. a year.
[01:59] <stlsaint> i use compiz do to the niffty desktop effects....thats all for me
[02:00] <iantlopp> honestly, what I'd like to see of compiz, eventually is a completely renovated 3d interface, similar to a package I used to use called Sphere XP.
[02:00] <ROFLCOPTERS> i have like
[02:00] <ROFLCOPTERS> compiz enabled
[02:00] <ROFLCOPTERS> minimally
[02:00] <ROFLCOPTERS> for awm
[02:00] <ROFLCOPTERS> i love that shit.
[02:00] <iantlopp> awm?
[02:00] <ROFLCOPTERS> awn*
[02:00] <stlsaint> iantlopp: dont get too used to compiz...its soon to be removed on default installs
[02:00] <ROFLCOPTERS> hold up
[02:00] <ROFLCOPTERS> well
[02:01] <ROFLCOPTERS> iantlopp,
[02:01] <iantlopp> stlsaint: dang... stinks.
[02:01] <ROFLCOPTERS> its like the mac doc
[02:01] <ROFLCOPTERS> dock*
[02:01] <stlsaint> dock sucks IMO
[02:01] <pleia2> ROFLCOPTERS: seriously, stop it with the foul language
[02:01] <iantlopp> *blinkblinks* never use macs
[02:01] <pleia2> it's not at all welcome here
[02:01] <ROFLCOPTERS> stlsaint, yeah but like it rocks for grouping your shit and they have some sweet aps. like cpu monitor and this popup terminal
[02:02] <ZachK_> ROFLCOPTERS: enough NOW
[02:02] <ROFLCOPTERS> wtf is wrong with you?
[02:02] <ROFLCOPTERS> it's not like
[02:02] <ROFLCOPTERS> i'm cussing you out
[02:02] <ROFLCOPTERS> srsly
[02:02] <ROFLCOPTERS> C-Ray, status on install
[02:02] <DarkwingDuck> ROFLCOPTERS: It is still the use of Language.
[02:02] <ZachK_> !topic | ROFLCOPTERS
[02:02] <Votebot> ROFLCOPTERS: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[02:02] <ROFLCOPTERS> dude
[02:03] <ROFLCOPTERS> votebot is on ignore
[02:03] <iantlopp> roflcopters: so basicaly... you're not crapping ON him, you're just crapping randomly around the room... and this is supposed to make us feel better, how?
[02:03] <ZachK_> ROFLCOPTERS: well stop using foul language....it's gone on long enough
[02:03] <ROFLCOPTERS> ZachK_
[02:03] <ROFLCOPTERS> are you like
[02:03] <ROFLCOPTERS> 10?
[02:04] <DarkwingDuck> ROFLCOPTERS: There are rules. Follow them please.
[02:04] <ZachK_> ROFLCOPTERS: actually i'm near 20 but that doesn't matter
[02:04] <ROFLCOPTERS> do you tell people to "Stop using the foul language" irl?
[02:04] <lukjad86> ROFLCOPTERS Enough, this is a logged official Ubuntu channel.
[02:04] <ROFLCOPTERS> LOL LUKJAD007
[02:04] <C-Ray> yeah it is still installing
[02:04] <ROFLCOPTERS> hi dude
[02:05] <lukjad86> ROFLCOPTERS And I do tell people who require my help to treat me and my coworkers to act in a respectful manner
[02:06] <ROFLCOPTERS> cool story bro.
[02:06] <C-Ray> ROFLCOPTERS, after it is done
[02:06] <C-Ray> what I should do?
[02:06] <DarkwingDuck> Hah.     ROFLCOPTERS, can you do a repeat performance?    Seriously.
[02:13] <lukjad86> MrPancake Nicely done :)
[02:13] <Anastasius> Okay then.
[02:13] <ZachK_> thanks MrPancake and the rest of you operators
[02:13] <iantlopp> mrpancake: seems willing enough to try to help, but keeps cursing throughout dialogue, regardless of other user's continued requests otherwise... then acts very sardonically to everyone who suggests he be a bit nicer.
[02:14] <iantlopp> that's what we're talking about MrPancake and Anastasius
[02:14] <MrPancake> !ops ROFLCOPTERS Language, please handle accordingly.
[02:14] <Izinucs> !ops | ROFLCOPTERS --- Won't stop swearing
[02:14] <ZachK_> hey Chesamo!
[02:14] <lukjad86> iantlopp Agreed.
[02:15] <Chesamo> Hey ZachK_
[02:15] <starcraftman> MrPancake: thanks.
[02:15] <Chesamo> Who won't stop cussin'?
[02:15] <ZachK_> Chesamo: how gows it pal?
[02:15]  * DarkwingDuck goes back to writing a resume and looking for a job
[02:15] <iantlopp> Chesamo: the suddenly quiet ROFLCOPTERS
[02:15] <iantlopp> best of luck DarkwingDuck
[02:15] <Chesamo> ZachK_ Good, good. Just got back from the Relay for Life thing my brother's participating in.
[02:16] <ZachK_> DarkwingDuck: i'm looking for one too....and college
[02:16] <DarkwingDuck> iantlopp: Medical discharges from the military suck
[02:16] <C-Ray> where is ROFLCOPTERS?
[02:16] <iantlopp> the job I have right now, I have because I  can't find another one.
[02:16] <ZachK_> Chesamo: awesome
[02:16] <iantlopp> OUCH
[02:16] <DarkwingDuck> iantlopp: I know... with 2 1/2 years left on my contract...
[02:19] <iantlopp> * MrPancake sets mode +q #ubuntu-beginners<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:19] <iantlopp> what's +q mean?
[02:19] <DarkwingDuck> quiet.
[02:19] <lukjad86> iantlopp quiet
[02:19] <DarkwingDuck> iantlopp: It's the BIG mute button
[02:19] <iantlopp> AHH... most amusing
[02:19] <iantlopp> the opposite of voice
[02:19] <lukjad86> eyp
[02:19] <DarkwingDuck> More frustrating then a +b
[02:19]  * iantlopp smiles a bit
[02:19]  * Chesamo flails her arms and scrabbles at the tape over her mouth
[02:19] <Chesamo> Oh, it's not like +m then
[02:19] <ZachK_> lol Chesamo
[02:19] <Chesamo> +q on the servers I'm used to is Owner
[02:19] <Chesamo> As in, channel registrar
[02:19] <iantlopp> hmm... possibly not the right place to ask this, but as the program I usually use is windows only... what's a good linux program to save .flv files from youtube?
[02:19] <iantlopp> I'm trying to get the "Matrix runs on Windows" video, then strip the last few seconds of audio, and put that as the startup sound on my computer.
[02:19] <starcraftman> iantlopp: just search for firefox addons. There are hundreds.
[02:19] <MrPancake> wget
[02:19] <iantlopp> starcraftman: last time I tried ( a while back, admitedly) most failed horridly with youtube... Orbit came through with style, so I got that and stuck with it... perhaps things have improved, though./
[02:19] <Izinucs> iantlopp: there's a youtube save tool for Firefox as a plugin I think
[02:22] <Anastasius> DownloadHelper
[02:22] <Anastasius> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006/
[02:22]  * DarkwingDuck snickers
[02:22] <Chesamo> Yaaaaay, they left
[02:22] <Chesamo> You know how I deal with trolls on my server?
[02:22] <starcraftman> iantlopp: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006/ < works for me.
[02:22] <ZachK_> Chesamo: how
[02:22] <DarkwingDuck> hack the IP? Chesamo?
[02:22] <Chesamo> ./kick (K-lined) usually tricks them into thinking they're K-lined
[02:22] <ZachK_> what is K-lined?
[02:22] <iantlopp> thanks much starcraftman
[02:22] <Chesamo> K-lining is a full-server ban
[02:22] <ZachK_> ah...
[02:22] <ZachK_> i see
[02:22] <Chesamo> "Kill line"
[02:22] <ZachK_> gotcha
[02:22] <ZachK_> Chesamo: what is your server?
[02:22] <Chesamo> The URL?
[02:22] <iantlopp> seen some classic ones on ba.... err.. a foul-mouthed website that logs irc chats :-p
[02:23] <ZachK_> Chesamo: well a channel i mean
[02:23] <Chesamo> It's not on FreeNode
[02:23] <ZachK_> Chesamo: ok...what network then?
[02:23] <ZachK_> Chesamo: just curious
[02:23] <Chesamo> heh. irc.sublevel21.com:6667/#SubLevel21
[02:25] <iantlopp> starcraftman - worked a treat :)
[02:25] <Anastasius> You're welcome.
[02:26] <starcraftman> iantlopp: your welcome, have fun with sound.
[02:26] <iantlopp> avidemux should work just fine for separating the sound and video, and, as always, audacity is great for audio editing :)
[02:31] <iantlopp> grr.. need to stop messing with synaptic
[02:32] <ZachK_> oy
[02:35] <newubuntu> Downloaded Ubuntu 10.04 LTS twice and burned both CDROM and DVD images.  It starts to load then get error Installation Failed, The installer encountered an unrecoverable error.  A desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try installing again.  When the desktop session runs, it asks for a username and password.  I restarted and tried Try Ubuntu without installing, install Ubuntu etc...
[02:36] <Chesamo> newubuntu: Did you check the disc?
[02:38] <newubuntu> mmm..you mean the checksum?  no i didn't.  I figured burning it two different ways and also downloading twice wouldn't give me a corrupt file
[02:39] <newubuntu> I googled and found others get this error in the past.  Is it because I am using an old Sempron chip PC?
[02:40] <Chesamo> newubuntu: I meant doing the "Check disc for defects" on the CD's boot screen
[02:41] <newubuntu> yes i did.  there were none.  it was good
[02:42] <Chesamo> newubuntu: are you on the Sempron 64, or the older x86 Sempron?
[02:42] <newubuntu> x86 sempron
[02:50] <Chesamo> newubuntu: Troubleshooting this kind of thing isn't my forte, try hanging out and waiting until someone more experienced than I am swings by
[02:51] <newubuntu>  should I repost the question? how does that work?
[02:51] <Chesamo> newubuntu: Try the forums, actually. http://ubuntuforums.org/
[02:52] <newubuntu> thank
[02:52] <Chesamo> newubuntu: No problem. Reposting the question in here wouldn't hurt either, just not too too often.
[02:52] <newubuntu> thanks
[03:10] <iantlopp> hmm... according to its website, Media Info is supposed to be available for ubuntu, but I can't find it in aptitude...
[03:15] <iantlopp> ahh, nevermind... if I add a repository to my list, it can be removed, right?
[03:29] <starcraftman> iantlopp: hi
[03:29] <starcraftman> iantlopp: yes, you can remove respoistories from the sources list later.
[03:29] <starcraftman> It's recommended you keep them for updates though and reinstallation.
[03:30] <iantlopp> no, I just added a repository for a PPA, and it's all "do at your own risk" yada yada...
[03:31] <iantlopp> I just want to get mediainfo on this system...
[03:31] <iantlopp> it's a great app I use all the time in Windows, and was hoping to use it in ubuntu as well, and as there IS an ubuntu release... was trying to use aptitude to install it, but now I can't seem to find it :(
[03:31] <starcraftman> iantlopp: ah alright. Hmmm, can I see intallation instructions.
[03:33] <iantlopp> https://launchpad.net/~shiki/+archive/mediainfo is linked to off of mediainfo.sourceforge.net for users of newer versions of ubuntu than the "official" releases
[03:34] <starcraftman> iantlopp: on lucid right?
[03:34] <iantlopp> yeah
[03:34] <iantlopp> I did the whole add-apt-repository line, but aptitude doesn't find it
[03:35] <starcraftman> iantlopp: first you added deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/shiki/mediainfo/ubuntu lucid main to the sources file ya?
[03:36] <Francis1> hello
[03:36] <starcraftman> iantlopp: then import key with > sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys F9D8BC54
[03:36] <iantlopp> no... I just did sudo add-apt-repository ppa:shiki/mediainfo
[03:36] <Francis1> can someone please help me how to enable my java
[03:36] <starcraftman> iantlopp: ah, then did you do sudo apt-get update ?
[03:36] <starcraftman> Francis1: hi there
[03:36] <Francis1> starcraftman: hello sir
[03:37] <iantlopp> nope...
[03:37] <iantlopp> guess I need to.
[03:37] <starcraftman> iantlopp: have to refresh package list after every change to sources.
[03:37] <starcraftman> The golden rule.
[03:37] <iantlopp> AHHH!!!
[03:37] <iantlopp> okay :)
[03:37] <Francis1> can some1 please help me :p
[03:37] <iantlopp> Francis1: it is possible, ask the question!
[03:37] <starcraftman> Francis1: sure, so a clean install and want java right?
[03:37] <Francis1> i just did xd
[03:37] <iantlopp> oh, heh... didn't see, sorry
[03:38] <Francis1> hmm ok so i was playing this game earlier
[03:38] <Francis1> but when i upgraded my system to 10.04 Lst?
[03:38] <Francis1> i forgot
[03:38] <Francis1> anyways, then i tried to open the game and it says i have to install Java
[03:38] <starcraftman> Francis1: can you open a terminal please? applications > accessories > terminal and type in:
[03:38] <iantlopp> starcraftman: these little details... one day I'll know them! heh
[03:38] <starcraftman> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:39] <Francis1> ok hold on :D
[03:39] <starcraftman> Francis1: then type your password, ^ That command installs all extra packages including java plugin.
[03:39] <Francis1> it says unable to lock
[03:39] <Francis1> waaa
[03:39] <Francis1> : Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:40] <starcraftman> Francis1: hmmm, do you have any other software installation services open? Like ubuntu software centre? Or synaptic?
[03:40] <iantlopp> starcraftman: okay, it installed media info, but no shortcut shows up under Applications... (wow I feel like such  windows user). as I don't know where they're installed to on the computer, I wouldn't know how to make a shortcut for it.
[03:40] <Francis1> no clue like srsly lol
[03:40] <Francis1> i just use this pc to play games >.<
[03:40] <starcraftman> iantlopp: check applications menu.
[03:40] <iantlopp> doesn't show up under applications
[03:41] <starcraftman> iantlopp: none of the subfolders?
[03:41] <iantlopp> oh wait... one moment.
[03:41] <starcraftman> Francis1: hmmmm
[03:41] <iantlopp> no...
[03:41] <Francis1> XD
[03:41] <Francis1> hold on mate
[03:42] <starcraftman> Francis1: k, can you open up System > Administration > System Monitor and look for names like "Synaptic" or "software centre" or "update manager" any of these could be using your package management back end.
[03:43] <Francis1> ok
[03:43] <iantlopp> I was checking under System-Administration Main Menu to see if it was there, and just not ticked, but it's not even there :(
[03:43] <starcraftman> That prevents you from installing other stuff. If so, preferable to wait until they stop updating.
[03:43] <starcraftman> iantlopp: it is gui program?
[03:43] <iantlopp> one assumes so... it is in Windows.
[03:43] <starcraftman> iantlopp: try on a terminal just doing the name of the package.
[03:43] <iantlopp> heh... it's in terminal
[03:44] <Francis1> starcraftman: sypnatic package manager?
[03:44] <iantlopp> ahh, there we go... hence my problem :) heh.
[03:44] <starcraftman> Francis1: aye, close that if it's open but not doing anything.
[03:44] <iantlopp> considering the program, wouldn't mind a gui front end, but it's certainly not needed.
[03:44] <starcraftman> Then try the command again.
[03:45] <Francis1> starcraftman: Im still upgrading mate
[03:45] <Francis1> almost done
[03:45] <Francis1> like 3-5 mins
[03:45] <starcraftman> Francis1: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[03:45] <starcraftman> Francis1: well ya didn't say so, I thought ya was finished upgrading. Then just reboot after and install extras.
[03:46] <starcraftman> Gotta say these minor details, don't kill the upgrade.
[03:46] <Francis1> ok I'll bug you again if it don't work ;)
[03:46] <Francis1> ok :D
[03:46] <Francis1> almost done Xd
[03:47] <iantlopp> yay! got the audio out... but it's .aac
[03:47] <iantlopp> hehe
[03:47] <Francis1> are u having problems w/ audio as well ian?
[03:47] <iantlopp> I'll figure this out, I know it.
[03:47] <iantlopp> oh no no...
[03:47] <Francis1> oh ok
[03:47] <iantlopp> trying to rip apart an .flv file for the audio...
[03:47] <Francis1> ok :D
[03:47] <Francis1> hold on
[03:47] <iantlopp> the audio kept messing up, no matter what file type I tried to turn it into,
[03:47] <iantlopp> however, I did mediainfo on it, found out it was .aac
[03:48] <iantlopp> and while my media player plays it, audacity doesn't support it at all.
[03:48] <iantlopp> at least, not with my current setup.
[03:48] <starcraftman> iantlopp: really? You sure?
[03:48] <iantlopp> one moment... I'll give you the error message
[03:48] <starcraftman> iantlopp: you got all extra codecs installed from restricted?
[03:49] <iantlopp> should have them, I did the ubuntu-restricted-extras install
[03:49] <Francis1> this is what i hate
[03:49] <iantlopp> whuzzat?
[03:49] <iantlopp> starcraftman,
[03:49] <starcraftman> iantlopp: yes?
[03:50] <iantlopp> "Audacity recognized the type of the file '/home.......'. Importers supposedly supporting such files are: FFmpeg-comatible files, but none of them understood this file format."
[03:52] <starcraftman> iantlopp: problem appears to be ffmpeg is lacking support for aac interpreting, ffmpeg I guess used for back end of audacity.
[03:52] <starcraftman> I think there used to be a ffmpeg version with aac but it's patent encumbered and not official.
[03:52] <iantlopp> possibly... I did an ffmpeg install, in fact that's what I used to demux the .flv file to create the .aac file
[03:54] <iantlopp> methinks his update finished
[03:54] <starcraftman> iantlopp: guess so, and I don't know how to fix ffmpeg support. Maybe convert the aac to something else first to edit?
[03:55] <iantlopp> was going to use audacity to convert... heh
[03:55] <starcraftman> iantlopp: hehehe
[03:55] <iantlopp> round and round the mulberry bush!
[03:56] <iantlopp> what would you recommend as the best media player for ubuntu?
[03:56] <starcraftman> iantlopp: soundkonverter is a good sound converter, think it works for aac too.
[03:56] <starcraftman> vlc is a good player.
[03:56]  * iantlopp shudders a little
[03:56] <starcraftman> iantlopp: no like vlc?
[03:56] <iantlopp> vlc has been hating me in Windows of late... switched to KMPlayer
[03:57] <iantlopp> it hates HD
[03:57] <iantlopp> while KMPlayer works wonders... but no linux version
[03:57] <starcraftman> iantlopp: i dunno, works fine for me. Make sure you have graphics driver installed?
[03:57] <starcraftman> mplayer is available on linux.
[03:57] <iantlopp> I've installed mplayer...
[03:57] <starcraftman> kmplayer is a package.
[03:57] <iantlopp> any good gui front ends?
[03:58] <iantlopp> ahh.. yes... that
[03:58] <iantlopp> it's not really...
[03:58] <iantlopp> it's a same name gui front end for mplayer, now that I think about it...
[03:58] <iantlopp> might be worth checking out.
[03:58] <Francis1> starcraftman: sory about that
[03:58] <starcraftman> iantlopp: it is kde, if you want gnome use gnome-mplayer
[03:58] <Francis1> ok I downloaded this iced software>?
[03:58] <starcraftman> or smplayer
[03:58] <iantlopp> well compiz
[03:58] <Francis1> ok how toinstall java now :s
[03:58] <Francis1> to install*
[03:59] <starcraftman> Francis1: try terminal command?
[03:59] <iantlopp> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:59] <Francis1> what do I put sir
[03:59] <iantlopp> then type your password :)
[03:59] <Francis1> ty
[03:59] <starcraftman> Francis1: applications > Accessories > Terminal, paste command in there.
[03:59] <Francis1> it's reading now
[03:59] <Francis1> :P
[04:01] <iantlopp> can mplayer be used to convert audio?
[04:02] <starcraftman> iantlopp: I think so, I'm not a huge converter.
[04:02] <Francis1> wow i keep on disconnecting
[04:02] <Francis1> since i upgraded :o
[04:02] <starcraftman> iantlopp: doesn't handbrake now do universal conversion?
[04:02] <Francis1> like i'd lost my connection but other pc's connection are fine
[04:02] <iantlopp> handbrake? never heard of itl.
[04:02] <starcraftman> Francis1: interesting, I dunno why. Wireless?
[04:03] <iantlopp> of it, rather.
[04:03] <Francis1> ya
[04:03] <duanedesign> Sound Converter
[04:03] <duanedesign> is a good, well sound converter :P
[04:04] <Francis2> wow i got disconnected again lol
[04:04] <iantlopp> just need it for one file for the moment... was hoping not to have to install any more software for this.. heh.
[04:04] <starcraftman> hmmm, I'm gonna have to go, later guys.  I just found a way to do it using mplayer
[04:07] <iantlopp> though I don't understand the syntax in mine
[04:08] <duanedesign> iantlopp: ahh, cool
[04:08] <Francis1> 6th time i got disconnected...
[04:08] <Francis1> duanedesign: do you remember me :D
[04:09] <iantlopp> duanedesign: thanks for the link, I used yours and it worked great :)
[04:09] <iantlopp> now for audacity
[04:10] <duanedesign> iantlopp: great. Ill add that to my bookmarks. Im sure Ill need to do that sometime
[04:10] <duanedesign> Francis1: hmmmm, My memory is not something i would consider my strength
[04:11] <Francis1> aw ok :P
[04:11] <Francis1> can some1 please help me
[04:11] <duanedesign> :)
[04:11] <Francis1> I instaled this Icedtea web browser plugin already
[04:11] <Francis1> but my java isn't working still
[04:11] <duanedesign> Francis1: using Lucid?
[04:11] <Francis1> darn this is frustrating :s
[04:12] <Francis1> no clue
[04:12] <Francis1> I just upgraded my software a couple of mins. ago
[04:12] <duanedesign> sure.
[04:12] <Francis1> then java became uninstalled
[04:12] <duanedesign> uname -a
[04:12] <Francis1> is that for me?
[04:12] <Francis1> ;[
[04:12] <duanedesign> Francis1: sorry. this command will tell me what version you have.   uname -a
[04:13] <Francis1> ok hold on
[04:13] <Francis1> that in terminal too?
[04:13] <Francis1> Linux acerlaptop 2.6.32-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 28 13:27:30 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:13] <Francis1> there XD
[04:15] <duanedesign> Francis1: ok. Open System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[04:15] <Francis1> duanedesign: so what do I do :P
[04:15] <Francis1> done
[04:15] <Francis1> duanedesign: then? :P
[04:16] <duanedesign> in 'Quick Search' type: sun-java6
[04:16] <Francis1> ok done
[04:16] <duanedesign> sun-java6-bin, sun-java6-jre, sun-java6-plugin
[04:16] <Francis1> there's sun java-bin/jre/plugin
[04:16] <Francis1> yes
[04:16] <Francis1> then what to do lol
[04:16] <duanedesign> r-click select for installation
[04:17] <duanedesign> those three
[04:17] <duanedesign> click apply
[04:17] <Francis1> ok so i'll shift and lick three of them
[04:17] <Francis1> options are"removal and completely removal" lol
[04:18] <duanedesign> Francis1: then they are already installed
[04:18] <duanedesign> Francis1: if they have a greenbox
[04:18] <Francis1> how come that my java isn't working then :s
[04:18] <Francis1> this totally sucks ;[
[04:19] <Francis1> I'm only using this software to play games but not i can't play on it anymore
[04:19] <Francis1> what do I do now ;[
[04:19] <Francis1> maybe you can help me to run this Icedtea web browser plugin that I installed?
[04:19] <Francis1> coz this is a missing plugin...
[04:19] <Francis1> duanedesign: XD
[04:20] <duanedesign> Francis1: are you using Firefox?
[04:20] <Francis1> yes sire
[04:20] <Francis1> sir*
[04:22] <duanedesign> do you see the icedtea plugin when you put in the address bar of the browser: about:plugins
[04:23] <Francis1> wow this is really messed up.. 7th time i got disconnected since I upgraded...
[04:23] <Francis1> duanedesign: u still there/
[04:23] <duanedesign> yep
[04:23] <Francis1> im always geting disconnected and i dont know hy
[04:23] <Francis1> damn
[04:24] <Francis1> duanedesign: ok so nxt step pls
[04:24] <duanedesign> is their a site inparticular that you are trying to get to work?
[04:24] <Francis1> www.runescape.com
[04:24] <Francis1> lol
[04:25] <duanedesign> ok
[04:25] <duanedesign> seems to work here.
[04:26] <Francis1> it was working to me also
[04:26] <duanedesign> how did you install the icedtea plugin
[04:26] <Francis1> hmm
[04:26] <Francis1> from java Xd
[04:26] <duanedesign> ok
[04:27] <duanedesign> Francis1: open the Synaptic Package Manager again
[04:27] <Francis1> ok hold on
[04:28] <Francis1> done
[04:28] <duanedesign> icedtea6  <- quick search
[04:29] <duanedesign> see if it has a greenbox
[04:29] <Francis1> it has
[04:29] <Francis1> duanedesign: it has a greenbox
[04:29] <duanedesign> Francis1: hmm. ok
[04:29] <duanedesign> search for:  openjdk-6-jre
[04:30] <duanedesign> is that installedA?
[04:30] <Francis1> ther's this application "openjdk-6-jre-lib
[04:30] <Francis1> and the color of box is white
[04:31] <Francis1> i mean Headless.. wasn't lib
[04:32] <duanedesign> mark it for installation.
[04:32] <duanedesign> should pull in the others
[04:33] <Francis1> there are like 3 more white boxes here
[04:33] <Francis1> and done for marking
[04:34] <duanedesign> openjdk -6-jre-headless will install a few other packages with it
[04:34] <Francis1> how tho lol
[04:34] <duanedesign> like openjdk-6-jre, openjdk-6-jre-lib
[04:35] <Francis1> how to do that
[04:35] <Francis1> sorry i dont know
[04:35] <duanedesign> Francis1: r-click. Select for installation
[04:35] <duanedesign> it will ask to make additional changes.
[04:35] <duanedesign> click 'Mark'
[04:36] <duanedesign> then 'Apply'
[04:36] <iantlopp> hmm... can't copy a file to /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo
[04:36] <Francis1> ok i marked for reinstallation
[04:36] <Francis1> then?
[04:36] <duanedesign> if its reinstallation its already installed
[04:37] <Francis1> i told you it was :P
[04:38] <duanedesign> ok
[04:38] <Francis1> nxt step pls
[04:38] <Francis1> i gotta go in 15 mins :[
[04:39] <Francis1> ok i applied
[04:40] <duanedesign> what do you get from    sudo update-java-alternatives -l
[04:41] <duanedesign> in the Terminal
[04:41] <pablo_22> quit
[04:41] <duanedesign> :)
[04:42] <Francis1> duanedesign: what do i do now xd
[04:42] <iantlopp> brb, testing something
[04:43] <duanedesign> Francis1: open firefox
[04:43] <Francis1> i did
[04:43] <duanedesign> Francis1: go to : about:plugins
[04:43] <duanedesign> about:plugins
[04:43] <Francis1> how lol
[04:44] <duanedesign> put it in your address bar
[04:45] <duanedesign> where the web adress goes. Instead of www. google.com. Put about:plugins
[04:45] <Francis1> how to do that XD
[04:45] <Francis1> can u please tell me step by step
[04:45] <Francis1> im real cunfuse im sorry
[04:45] <duanedesign> ok
[04:45] <duanedesign> in firefox at the top of the brwser there is a web address
[04:46] <duanedesign> http://.....
[04:46] <Francis1> yes
[04:46] <Francis1> and then
[04:46] <duanedesign> ok put your cursor in that window
[04:46] <duanedesign> by clicking on it
[04:46] <Francis1> ya done
[04:46] <Francis1> then lol
[04:46] <duanedesign> delete what is there
[04:47] <Francis1> then what do I type
[04:47] <duanedesign> about:plugind=s
[04:47] <duanedesign> oops
[04:47] <duanedesign> about:plugins
[04:47] <duanedesign>  a page should come up showing your plugins
[04:47] <Francis1> type "about plugins"?
[04:48] <duanedesign> with:
[04:48] <duanedesign> about:plugins
[04:48] <Francis1> darn it
[04:49] <Francis1> can we pls continue 2morrow
[04:49] <duanedesign> sure ill be here
[04:49] <duanedesign> just ping me
[04:49] <Francis1> I really have to go and i really appreciate your help
[04:49] <Francis1> thanks a lot for your time
[04:49] <duanedesign> no problemo
[04:49] <Francis1> have a wonderful day, goodbye
[04:49] <Francis1> gracias
[04:49] <duanedesign> cya
[04:49] <duanedesign> o/
[04:50] <iantlopp> okay... here's a strange one... how do you change the startup sound?
[04:50] <iantlopp> those goofy drums are driving me batty
[04:50] <iantlopp> I manage to get it to play my sound file AFTER I login, but I want the sound file to play before, to replace the goofy drums at the beginning.
[04:57] <ddecator> iantlopp: System > Administration > Login Screen. there is an option to disable the login sound
[04:58] <iantlopp> that's not the sound I'm trying to get rid of...
[04:58] <iantlopp> or change...
[04:58] <iantlopp> that sound ONLY plays AFTER typing in your password.
[04:58] <iantlopp> before doing so, when the system first boots to the login screen, there is a short clip of some drums... THAT sound must go.
[04:58] <ddecator> oh yah, forgot about that sound
[04:58] <ddecator> how did i disable that...
[04:59] <iantlopp> the sound is /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/system-ready.ogg
[04:59] <iantlopp> I could always delete that.
[04:59] <ddecator> i think that's what i did, haha, let me check
[04:59] <iantlopp> or gconftool-2 to stop it.
[04:59] <iantlopp> but I wish there was a proper way to change it, rather than to delete that file and rename another file to system-ready.ogg
[04:59] <ddecator> yah i don't have that sound file
[05:00] <ddecator> i know they're going to work on the sounds for marverick (at least update them, not sure if they'll make them easier to disable)
[05:00] <ddecator> they kinda forgot about them for lucid :p
[05:01] <iantlopp> they went from Karmic (loads of sounds that can be easily changed) to lucid, 5 total sound options, very difficult to change...
[05:01] <iantlopp> it's... rather stupid.
[05:02] <iantlopp> http://www.zolved.com/synapse/view_content/28407/How_to_change_the_startup_music_in_Ubuntu that's the menu in Karmic...
[05:02] <iantlopp> what happened to it in Lucid?
[05:03] <iantlopp> I only get the option to change the alert sound
[05:49] <paultag> drubin, poke
[05:49] <paultag> dragondon, I need ya
[05:49] <paultag> erm not you dragondon, I'm sure you are cool
[05:49] <paultag> but I need drubin
[06:09] <kos_> just got ubuntu up and running on this system, every now and then, I'll get a sound clip playing, but It usually only plays part of the sound.
[06:09] <kos_> videos, regardless of player, always play at about double speed.
[06:09] <kos_> any clues as to why?
[06:14] <kos_> okay, nevermind... changing audio from digital audio out via HDMI to analog audio out seems to have fixed both audio and video problems, though I'm nonplussed as to why
[06:20] <ddecator> hard to say, sound-related issues tend to be tricky
[06:20] <ddecator> and he got off a while ago didn't he...
[06:20]  * ddecator needs to check that before replying
[07:01] <aluex> need help.
[07:01] <aluex> when i start up,lots of tasks "Starting up file manager" start.
[07:34] <mohi1> wb hobgoblin
[07:34] <hobgoblin> hi there mohi1
[07:35] <mohi1> how are ya hobgoblin!
[07:35] <hobgoblin> pretty good thanks - you?
[07:35] <mohi1> doing fine hobgoblin =]
[07:36] <hobgoblin> :)
[07:36] <hobgoblin> you not joined BT yet?
[07:36] <mohi1> i think i sent a request to add me i think
[07:36] <paultag> heyy hobgoblin
[07:36] <hobgoblin> hi paultag
[07:37] <paultag> hobgoblin, how goes?
[07:37] <mohi1> but i think i ll be active w/o being voiced :)
[07:37] <hobgoblin> paultag: where you been lately ? do we smell or something :)
[07:37] <hobgoblin> mohi1: well yes - plenty of that in here :)
[07:37] <mohi1> :)
[07:37] <paultag> hobgoblin, yeah, I'm drunk as hell
[07:37] <paultag> but not that drunk
[07:38] <hobgoblin> ha ha ha
[07:38] <paultag> just kinda
[07:38] <hobgoblin> I find pleasantly uninhibited to be the best point to be at :)
[07:58] <Lilsavalex> Everytime i try and mount my other hardrive. This appears "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 13: ntfs_mst_post_read_fixup: magic: 0x6e696268  size: 4096  usa_ofs: 8192  usa_count: 240: Invalid argument Actual VCN (0x0) of index buffer is different from expected VCN (0x5). Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Input/output error NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a SoftRAID/FakeRAID har
[07:58] <Lilsavalex> sage of the /f parameter is very important! If the device is a SoftRAID/FakeRAID then first activate it and mount a different device under the /dev/mapper/ directory, (e.g.
[08:02] <Lilsavalex> hello?
[08:04] <mohi1> Lilsavalex, so the second hard drive is not booting up. and whats the name you gace for it?
[08:04] <mohi1> gave*
[08:05] <Lilsavalex> Sba isnt booting up
[08:05] <Lilsavalex> I put a thread on ubuntu forums, if you want to take a full look at my issue
[08:06] <aluex> help,when i start up,lots of tasks "Starting up file manager" start.
[08:06] <mohi1> waiting for it =]
[08:06] <Lilsavalex> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1489997
[08:06] <Lilsavalex> Read the whole thread =]
[08:06] <Lilsavalex> Thanks for the help, i appreciate it <3
[08:07] <mohi1> aluex, looked at system-> Administration-> startup manager??
[08:08] <aluex> mohi1, actually ,my system menu is empty now..
[08:08] <aluex> :(
[08:08] <mohi1> brb. relatives in home
[08:09] <aluex> Yes?
[08:10] <mohi1> aluex, you are using fluxbox?
[08:10] <aluex> no.but what is that?
[08:11] <aluex> I m using gnome
[08:14] <mohi1> Lilsavalex, you tried the comment of using Live CD in #9
[08:15] <mohi1> aluex, well you have no panels?
[08:15] <Lilsavalex> im using the live cd now
[08:15] <aluex> I have one on the top
[08:16] <Lilsavalex> Did you go to my thread and look through all of it?
[08:16] <mohi1> Lilsavalex, yeah and so only i am asking ya. you followed the steps in #9?
[08:17] <mohi1> ok you have the system menu or lost it??
[08:17] <mohi1> aluex, ^^
[08:17] <Lilsavalex> Which one is "step" 9
[08:17] <Lilsavalex> nvm
[08:17] <Lilsavalex> Yupp
[08:17] <mohi1> Lilsavalex, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9340717&postcount=9
[08:17] <Lilsavalex> i tried step nine
[08:18] <Lilsavalex> theres a second page
[08:18] <Lilsavalex> not sure if you didnt see it
[08:21] <mohi1> Lilsavalex, try sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb1 I added "1" after sdb
[08:21] <mohi1> aluex, there??
[08:21] <Lilsavalex> ill try
[08:21] <mohi1> ok =]
[08:21] <aluex> ?
[08:22] <mohi1> aluex, you dont have system menu there??
[08:22] <mohi1> on your top panel?
[08:23] <aluex> i have system menu,but it is empty
[08:23] <aluex> almost empty
[08:23] <aluex> and i cannot run ala carte
[08:24] <Lilsavalex> it doesnt work
[08:24] <Lilsavalex> i get an error
[08:26] <mohi1> eh. talsemgeest got in at right time. help needed  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9340717
[08:30] <talsemgeest> Lilsavalex: All I can suggest is that you go through the instructions for the ubuntu bootloader on this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708
[08:30] <mohi1> Lilsavalex, your machine just goes up with win rather running grub right?
[08:30] <ddecator> aluex: what is missing from you System menu?
[08:30] <ddecator> your*
[08:31] <Lilsavalex> It goes up with windows, but somehow when i did testdisk or w/e that guy on my thread told me to do
[08:31] <Lilsavalex> My windows got fucked up
[08:31] <hobgoblin> Lilsavalex: language please
[08:31] <Lilsavalex> sorry
[08:31] <Lilsavalex> didnt really know we couldnt cuss
[08:31] <Lilsavalex> My windows got messed* up
[08:31] <mohi1> hobgoblin, ty. i was supposed to say and please make yor presence =]
[08:32] <Lilsavalex> And everytime i try and boot into the linux hardrive, it tells me to click alt-crtl-delete to restart
[08:32] <hobgoblin> aluex: also can you open a terminal from the apps > accessories - run this command    df -h   then paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com put a name in the name box - hit paste and give us the url
[08:32] <Lilsavalex> and when i restart.. it just asks me the same thing over and over again
[08:32] <aluex> some setting menus
[08:32] <hobgoblin> Lilsavalex: that's cool - we just like the channel to be family friendly
[08:33] <aluex> remaining are only "Help" "about Gnome".etc
[08:33] <wooboy77> hi guys maybe you can help me!
[08:33] <hobgoblin> we can try
[08:33] <mohi1> hobgoblin, missed terminal there =]
[08:33] <ddecator> hobgoblin: was your comment about df -h supposed to be for Lilsavalex?
[08:33] <wooboy77> i'd like to connect a second pc on a modem connection how do i do it???
[08:33] <hobgoblin> mohi1: no I didn't
[08:33] <hobgoblin> ddecator: no it was for aluex
[08:34] <mohi1> hobgoblin, apps->accessories-> terminal????
[08:34]  * ddecator is confused where this is going, but ok
[08:34] <hobgoblin> ddecator: often things go missing when / is full
[08:34] <aluex> oh
[08:34] <ddecator> hobgoblin: ah! that makes sense
[08:34] <Lilsavalex> Mohil, i updated some information at my thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9341091#post9341091 I used the boot info script and uploaded the results
[08:35] <hobgoblin> mohi1: also can you open a terminal from the apps > accessories  - see - /me missed it not :)
[08:35] <aluex> ddecator, some setting menus are missing
[08:35] <mohi1> ah
[08:35] <mohi1> hobgoblin, well i didn't read it full :(
[08:35] <ddecator> aluex: so you don't see Preferences or Administration?
[08:35] <aluex> And still,everytime i log in,lots of file-managers start
[08:36] <mohi1> talsemgeest, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9341091#post9341091
[08:36] <mohi1> and Lilsavalex this was the same post as in #8
[08:37] <mohi1> Lilsavalex, you saw http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708?
[08:37] <Lilsavalex> its not the same
[08:37] <Lilsavalex> Go to the second page of my thread and look at the new updated one
[08:37] <aluex> ddecator, yes
[08:37] <Lilsavalex> Yah i saw that
[08:37] <wooboy77> 'd like to connect a second pc on a modem connection how do i do it???
[08:38] <ddecator> aluex: the file-managers issue is most likely nautilus related. can you pastebin (paste.ubuntu.com) the output of 'df -h' like hobgoblin asked?
[08:38] <ddecator> wooboy77: wireless or connected?
[08:38] <ddecator> wooboy77: oh, do you mean share the internet on your ubuntu system with another comp?
[08:39] <aluex> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/437713/
[08:39] <aluex> ddecator, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/437713/
[08:40] <hobgoblin> aluex: also if you can get the system stable after the file manager thing has stopped you can try Alt+F2 run gnome-session-properties go to the options tab and remember current apps
[08:41] <hobgoblin> aluex: well the drive not full :)
[08:41] <ddecator> aluex: and in regards to your system menu, what happens when you run 'alacarte' in a terminal?
[08:41] <mohi1> hobgoblin, PM
[08:42] <Lilsavalex> Well, im off for the night. If you have any tips about my thread post on it or just email me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Thanks for all your help guys =]
[08:42] <ddecator> no problem Lilsavalex :)
[08:42] <aluex> ddecator, here is output:http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/437716/
[08:43] <mohi1> Lilsavalex, look at http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[08:43] <mohi1> i saw the same boot sector info on yours Lilsavalex
[08:43] <aluex> hobgoblin, Alt+F2 here appears a window titled "Run application"
[08:43] <Lilsavalex> Thats test disk thing is what messed me up in the first place aha
[08:44] <hobgoblin> aluex: gnome-session-properties is the command to run
[08:44] <hobgoblin> then options - remember current apps running
[08:44] <ddecator> hobgoblin: any ideas on what would cause that output?
[08:44] <SomeDude> hello, im a ubuntu newbie. Is there a way to install ubuntu from a CD with Windows Command Prompt Safe Mode?
[08:45] <hobgoblin> ddecator: 2 secs
[08:45] <hobgoblin> SomeDude: do you meant install wubi?
[08:45] <SomeDude> i believe so
[08:45] <SomeDude> i cant get the the install to occur on the system boot
[08:45] <mohi1> Lilsavalex, so what your boot screen shows up?
[08:46] <aluex> hobgoblin, oh,i see
[08:46] <mohi1> Lilsavalex, it shows ubuntu partition and it tells you to restart. right?
[08:46] <ddecator> SomeDude: so you had wubi install ubuntu on your system then?
[08:46] <hobgoblin> ddecator: nope - I would try to reinstall it though
[08:46] <SomeDude> i created the ubuntuo ISO on a CD
[08:46] <hobgoblin> SomeDude: not sure tbh - only did wubi once
[08:46] <SomeDude> when i boot the computer nothing happens
[08:46] <aluex> hobgoblin, i m under UNR,and it works well
[08:47] <aluex> but when i choose session: ubuntu 10.04
[08:47] <Lilsavalex> That only happens when i go to the windows boot menu pressing the esc key and selecting the hardrive with linux on it
[08:47] <aluex> the problem appears
[08:47] <ddecator> SomeDude: ah, so you're trying to boot into a live session using the CD?
[08:47] <SomeDude> im trying to install manually from command prompt
[08:47] <Lilsavalex> Then the ubuntu thing about alt-ctr-delete comes
[08:48] <hobgoblin> aluex: ok - so in 10.04 you have file manager try and start numerous times - but not in UNR ?
[08:48] <SomeDude> possibly, what a live session?
[08:48] <ddecator> SomeDude: the best options are to install wubi so you don't have to partition your harddrive, or boot into the live CD and install ubuntu on a partition you've freed on your harddrive
[08:48] <mohi1> Lilsavalex, i think this is due to bad sectors as i pointed the line to you
[08:48] <Lilsavalex> I just tried the bad sectors thing
[08:48] <hobgoblin> SomeDude: I would add that it is possible you can;t install it from safe mode in win
[08:49] <SomeDude> can i install wubi from the command prompt. The original windows OS is completely damaged and does allow access to normal functions
[08:50] <hobgoblin> SomeDude: I would wonder about installing wubi into a fubar windows
[08:50] <SomeDude> could be
[08:50] <SomeDude> found the laptop on the streets
[08:50] <ddecator> SomeDude: not that i know of, and if windows isn't working then wubi won't work either
[08:50] <hobgoblin> what do you want to do with the damaged win? fix it or not - if you fix it then you will probably lose wubi anyway
[08:50] <aluex> hobgoblin, yes.
[08:51] <ddecator> SomeDude: if you don't need windows on there, you can use the CD to install ubuntu on the HDD and replace windows
[08:51] <Lilsavalex> Well, Thanks for the help, and email like i said =] Thanks for your help. I appreciate it =) Im going to try and restart pc and see if its fixed.. if not. ill give up for the night and go to sleep aha
[08:51] <Lilsavalex> Goodnight everyone ! <3
[08:51] <hobgoblin> aluex: mmmm - ok - did you do the ALt+F2 command thing in 10.04?
[08:51] <SomeDude> how would i install ubuntu on the HDD
[08:51] <aluex> not yet.
[08:52] <aluex> i will hava try
[08:52] <hobgoblin> SomeDude: boot from the livecd - if it does not start - reboot - enter BIOS and set to boot from CD
[08:52] <ddecator> aw, couldn't type fast enough...
[08:52] <SomeDude> how do you enter bios exactly?
[08:52] <ddecator> depends on the computer
[08:53] <hobgoblin> SomeDude: depends - look on screen - could be esc del or a F combo
[08:53] <ddecator> the screen that flashes for a few seconds when first booting should say what key to enter for settings
[08:53] <hobgoblin> or even an option to choose what to boot from
[08:56] <SomeDude> wow, thanks all
[08:56] <SomeDude> i appreciate the help
[08:56] <ddecator> SomeDude: no problem :)
[08:56] <SomeDude> hopefully one day i'll be as knowable as you guys
[08:56] <aluex> hobgoblin, i m back
[08:56] <aluex> in 10.04
[08:57] <aluex> still lots of "Starting up file-manager"
[08:57] <ddecator> SomeDude: once you start using ubuntu, you'll start to pick up on everything
[08:57] <aluex> and so many...that i cannot see their titles now
[08:57] <ddecator> i feel like there is a nautilus bug for that...
[08:58] <aluex> oh my goodness..
[08:58] <hobgoblin> ddecator: possibly the one I had a few releases ago
[08:58] <hobgoblin> ddecator: possibly a killall nautilus will help
[08:58] <ddecator> hobgoblin: oh yay for regressions...i'm looking for a report atm
[08:59] <ddecator> heh, that'd get it to stop at least :p
[08:59]  * hobgoblin hates looking for bugs on lp
[08:59] <mohi1> bye.catch you all later =]
[08:59] <hobgoblin> ddecator: and then it should restart :p
[08:59] <ddecator> hopefully not, haha
[08:59] <ddecator> hobgoblin: i have to use google site search for it. the lp search is terrible
[08:59] <hobgoblin> well you need nautilus to start to deal with metacity and all that stuff :)
[09:00] <hobgoblin> ddecator: indeed - I think the forum uses the same engine lol
[09:00] <ddecator> and icons on the desktop, etc. kinda important
[09:01] <ddecator> hm, no luck finding a report so far...
[09:01] <aluex> http://imagebin.org/97891
[09:01] <aluex> here is my snapshot
[09:01] <aluex> many points on the top pannel are nautilus
[09:01] <ddecator> yah, i feel like i've seen that before
[09:02] <ddecator> if you click them, what gets displayed?
[09:02] <aluex> nothing
[09:02] <ddecator> i was hoping for an error message :\
[09:03] <aluex> what is that?
[09:03] <hobgoblin> a clue :)
[09:03] <aluex> oh.
[09:03] <aluex> what should i do then?
[09:03] <hobgoblin> aluex: try this from a terminal
[09:03] <hobgoblin> killall nautilus
[09:04] <hobgoblin> might need sudo
[09:04] <aluex> they disappeared
[09:04] <hobgoblin> ok - now do the ALt+F2 gnome-session-properties thing again and logout and in again
[09:05] <hobgoblin> check in the first tab that there is no nautilus
[09:05] <ddecator> heh, was just going to suggest that
[09:05] <hobgoblin> :)
[09:05] <aluex> you mean "Start up applications preference"?
[09:06] <hobgoblin> yes
[09:06] <aluex> there is a "Personal file sharing" which seemed to be related to nautilus
[09:07] <hobgoblin> that I think is ubuntuone - if you don't use it - turn it off
[09:07] <aluex> i use it
[09:07] <aluex> Then nothing related to nautilus
[09:07] <hobgoblin> leave it then :) I'll just screenshot mine
[09:07] <aluex> all right
[09:08] <hobgoblin> http://i.imgur.com/zv2aC.png
[09:08] <ddecator> hm, no reports for nautilus starting too many times, only nautilus failing to start
[09:08] <hobgoblin> aluex: obviously if you use things like bluetooth leave them as they are - once you've checked that tab - go to the options one and remember current apps
[09:09] <hobgoblin> ddecator: it was a while ago when I had the issue - /me forgot the details :(
[09:09] <ddecator> aluex: just make sure there isn't a nautilus listing under the first tab
[09:09] <aluex> There are not
[09:09] <ddecator> hobgoblin: i've tried multiple different searches, and google includes invalid/fixed/etc.
[09:10] <aluex> hobgoblin, things in my first tab are no more than yours
[09:10] <hobgoblin> aluex: ok - once you checked the remember apps thing try again
[09:10] <aluex> "Your session has been remembered"
[09:11] <aluex> saved
[09:12] <ddecator> hm, should probably run update-manager too just in case...
[09:13] <ddecator> especially if this doesn't work
[09:13] <hobgoblin> yep
[09:13] <ddecator> aluex: any luck?
[09:14] <aluex> lucky
[09:14] <aluex> they no longer appear
[09:14] <aluex> the remaining problem is my poor menu.
[09:14] <ddecator> try running 'sudo apt-get reinstall alacarte'
[09:15] <hobgoblin> aluex: hang on
[09:15] <aluex> OK
[09:16] <hobgoblin> might be worth and update and upgrade first
[09:16] <ddecator> couldn't hurt
[09:17] <ddecator> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:17] <ddecator> (or dist-upgrade if you want it to potentially upgrade even more packages)
[09:17] <hobgoblin> leave that one for the moment :)
[09:18] <ddecator> yah, it's technically less stable to do dist-upgrade
[09:18] <hobgoblin> aluex: are you following us?
[09:18] <ddecator> aluex: so run 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade' in a terminal :)
[09:19] <aluex> oh,sorry.i was just playing pac-man on google homepage
[09:19] <hobgoblin> LOL
[09:19] <ddecator> haha
[09:19] <ddecator> and no, that music playing is NOT a firefox bug -_-
[09:20] <aluex> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:21] <ddecator> alright, now run 'sudo apt-get reinstall alacarte'
[09:21] <aluex> E: Invalid operation reinstall
[09:22] <ddecator> oops
[09:23] <ddecator> sudo aptitude reinstall alacarte
[09:23] <ddecator> :)
[09:24] <aluex> done
[09:25] <aluex> output is still the same
[09:25] <ddecator> when running alacarte?
[09:25] <hobgoblin> sudo apt-get install --reinstall alacarte
[09:26] <ddecator> ah, i knew there was a way to do it with apt-get :p
[09:27] <aluex> hobgoblin, done
[09:27] <aluex> output is still that same
[09:27] <ddecator> i have a feeling the profile is corrupt
[09:27] <aluex> I agree
[09:28] <aluex> but i know nothing about that
[09:28] <ddecator> now if i can remember where the profile is, haha. one sec
[09:31] <wooboy77> hello again!
[09:31] <wooboy77> how do I connect a second pc on a modem connection?
[09:32] <ddecator> there is is
[09:32] <ddecator> aluex: is it only your system menu?
[09:32] <aluex> yes.
[09:33] <ddecator> wooboy77: are you trying to connect another computer to your ubuntu comp and share the internet connection?
[09:33] <aluex> in that only are "Help and support" "About Gnome" About ubuntu
[09:34] <ddecator> aluex: you can try going to ~/.config/menus/ and delete applications.menu which (after a logout and back in) should reset the main menus
[09:34] <ddecator> not sure if the logout and back in is required or not...
[09:35] <aluex> there only "settings.menu"
[09:35] <ddecator> there isn't an applications.menu at all? o.o
[09:36] <aluex> yes.
[09:36] <aluex> -rw-r--r--  1 aluex aluex    0 2010-05-09 09:56 settings.menu
[09:37] <aluex> no,there isn't
[09:37] <aluex> i just made a language mistake.
[09:37] <aluex> : P
[09:38] <ddecator> hm, ok
[09:39] <ddecator> sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-menu2 libgnome-menu2 python-gmenu
[09:39] <hobgoblin> I'm off now - good luck aluex
[09:39] <aluex> E: Couldn't find package gnome-menu2
[09:40] <ddecator> oops, sorry
[09:40] <ddecator> sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-menus libgnome-menu2 python-gmenu
[09:40] <aluex> ddecator, never mind. :)
[09:40] <ddecator> ?
[09:42] <aluex> done
[09:42] <ddecator> alright, log out and log back in just in case :)
[09:42] <aluex> ok
[09:44] <aluex> back
[09:44] <aluex> not fixed
[09:45] <ddecator> hmm...and still no applications.menu in ~/.config/menus/ ?
[09:45] <aluex> let me see..
[09:45] <aluex> still not
[09:45] <ddecator> :\
[09:45] <ddecator> strange...
[09:46] <aluex> ..
[09:46] <aluex> how to see hidden files with ls
[09:47] <ddecator> only .config is hidden. you can run 'cd .config/menus' then 'ls'
[09:48] <aluex> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/437741/
[09:48] <aluex> output of ls
[09:50] <ddecator> somethings not right...
[09:50] <aluex> :(
[09:50] <aluex> settings.menu is empty
[09:52] <ddecator> but you said your applications menu is normal?
[09:53] <aluex> ddecator, yes, application menu is normal
[09:53] <ddecator> odd...
[09:53] <aluex> extraordinary,
[09:53] <aluex> that's the word i just learnt today
[09:53] <ddecator> ok, check to see if there are files in /etc/xdg/menus/
[09:54] <ddecator> haha, yes, extraordinarily odd
[09:54] <aluex> many
[09:54] <ddecator> and settings.menu isn't blank?
[09:55] <aluex> no,it's not empty
[09:55] <ddecator> well that's good at least...
[09:55] <aluex> :)
[09:55] <ddecator> now the problem is, why aren't the files from that folder being merged into corresponding files in the other folder
[09:56] <aluex> and there is application.men
[09:56] <aluex> menu
[09:56] <aluex> applications.menu
[09:56] <ddecator> hm, i'm not sure what package is responsible for this, so, if you want, we can try a way around the issue
[09:58] <aluex> ?
[09:58] <ddecator> it's not a fix, but i can give you the text in my settings.menu in ~/.config/menus and you can place it in your empty settings.menu and save it, and that will hopefully get it working
[09:59] <aluex> i agree
[10:00] <ddecator> it might not work since whatever package is supposed to do that automatically isn't working properly and that may be needed for this to work, but it's worth a try if you're interested
[10:02] <ddecator> aluex: ok, paste the text from http://paste.ubuntu.com/437751/ into ~/.config/menus/settings.menu (*don't* change anything in the xdg menu folder)
[10:04] <ddecator> not sure if you need sudo to save the changes
[10:04] <aluex> placed
[10:04] <ddecator> alright, did it save?
[10:05] <aluex> aha.it works
[10:05] <ddecator> the system menu does?
[10:05] <aluex> yes
[10:05] <ddecator> good! :)
[10:05] <aluex> :)
[10:05] <aluex> and...how to cure my alacarte
[10:05] <ddecator> not sure what caused that...but at least it's working now
[10:06] <ddecator> right
[10:07] <ddecator> hm...
[10:07] <ddecator> still the same output if you run it from a terminal?
[10:10] <aluex> ...it works
[10:10] <aluex> all right now
[10:10] <ddecator> alacarte does?
[10:10] <ddecator> :D
[10:10] <aluex> yes.
[10:11] <aluex> :D
[10:11] <ddecator> i have _no_ idea what caused that, but at least it's working for you now :)
[10:11] <aluex> Thank you greatly
[10:12] <ddecator> no problem :)
[10:12] <ddecator> if you have any more issues, then just come back here and let us know
[10:13] <aluex> OK,i will if i havd
[10:13] <aluex> then byebye
[11:10] <C-Ray> Hello
[11:10] <C-Ray> Please I need help
[11:13] <C-Ray> http://paste.ubuntu.com/437774/
[11:14] <C-Ray> my problem is described above
[11:14] <C-Ray> I don't like posting too many lines for the clarity of the IRC
[11:14] <C-Ray> Thanks :)
[11:28] <drubin> paultag: pong
[13:25] <Thraul> how do I customise the plymouth boot screen in lucid? All the googling I have done says I can only use the themes in the ubuntu repositories....
[13:27] <C-Ray> Thraul
[13:28] <C-Ray> try start-up manager
[13:28] <C-Ray> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StartUpManager
[13:28] <C-Ray> go here Thraul
[13:29] <Thraul> i thought the startupmanager package only changed the xsplash/usplash themes (9.10 and earlier).....
[13:29] <C-Ray> well, I think it will work with 10
[13:29] <Thraul> plymouth replaces xsplash/usplash....????
[13:29] <Thraul> ok will look
[13:29] <C-Ray> I never tried it really Thraul, just guessing wisely
[13:30] <C-Ray> no you can always return for the default
[13:30] <C-Ray> I think it will work
[13:30] <C-Ray> give it a shout
[13:35] <C-Ray> I have installed virtualbox 3.2 but now how to run it?
[13:35] <C-Ray> anyone here to help?
[13:36] <hobgoblin> C-Ray: what's up?
[13:36] <Thraul> C-Ray, you need to edit the menu to show it....right click on applications and choose Edit Menus, then select System Tools and tick (or untick and tick) Virtual Box then cick Close...should now appear in the menu
[13:37] <hobgoblin> shouldn't need to do that
[13:37] <C-Ray> what do you mean?
[13:37] <hobgoblin> C-Ray: what is it you need help with?
[13:38] <C-Ray> well after I installed virtualbox 3.2, I don't know how to run it
[13:38] <C-Ray> there is no shortcut or anything
[13:38] <C-Ray> am not able to find it either in the edit menus
[13:38] <Thraul> Is in in Applications -- System Tools?
[13:38] <C-Ray> no it is not :(
[13:39] <hobgoblin> have you rebooted - it needs to start some stuff during boot
[13:39] <C-Ray> no I haven't tried that
[13:39] <hobgoblin> then it should be there in the menu as well
[13:39] <hobgoblin> and if you intend to use usb's I hope you installed the PUEL version not the OSE one
[13:40] <hobgoblin> the one from the vbox site rather than the repos one
[13:40] <C-Ray> oh I downloaded the .deb pacakge
[13:40] <C-Ray> from the site
[13:40] <hobgoblin> k
[13:40] <zeroseven0183> Hi C-Ray, I downloaded the latest Virtualbox this week
[13:40] <C-Ray> it worked?
[13:40] <zeroseven0183> and it was quite good
[13:40] <C-Ray> that's great to hear
[13:40] <hobgoblin> Thraul: did you see the ubunutgeek page fro plymouth themes?
[13:40] <zeroseven0183> Actually, I was using Virtualbox for quite sometime already
[13:41] <C-Ray> zerseven0183 : am did you reboot after installation?
[13:41] <zeroseven0183> C-Ray: If you can't find Virtualbox in the Applications, see if it's not yet activated in the Main Menu
[13:41] <zeroseven0183> No need to reboot
[13:42] <hobgoblin> zeroseven0183: erverytime I have installed and tried to run from CLI it fails until it has set up some kernel stuff during boot ( at least I am sure that is what it does )
[13:42] <zeroseven0183> But it should be in the list as soon as you finish installing it
[13:42] <zeroseven0183> ... _list_, as in the Applications menu
[13:42] <C-Ray> I fixed it :)
[13:42] <C-Ray> I don't know how
[13:43] <C-Ray> no there is a shortcut
[13:43] <C-Ray> but I did nothing
[13:43] <C-Ray> I was trying for days
[13:43] <zeroseven0183> Sometimes, it just appears after quite a few moments
[13:43] <C-Ray> well it is from yesterday actaully
[13:43] <C-Ray> strange
[13:43] <C-Ray> anyway
[13:43] <zeroseven0183> So good for you now
[13:43] <C-Ray> yeah
[13:43] <zeroseven0183> What do you plan to virtualize?
[13:43] <C-Ray> thanks zeroseven0183
[13:44] <C-Ray> windows xp and fedora 12
[13:44] <Thraul> yeah i did hobgoblin  but from what i read that just sets a steady image? it wont have a progress bar as such to show booting process???
[13:44] <C-Ray> though fedora is not needed for the moment
[13:44] <zeroseven0183> C-Ray: Sure. I also have Windows XP for my "refresher" course
[13:44] <zeroseven0183> I'm waiting for Goddard to be released then try it on VBox too
[13:45] <C-Ray> what to do
[13:45] <C-Ray> I am taking assembly
[13:45] <C-Ray> and I have no choice
[13:45] <C-Ray> masm
[13:45] <C-Ray> 32bit
[13:46] <hobgoblin> Thraul: yea :( I know - that said I rarely notice the progress as I am usually waiting for the kettle to boil
[13:48] <Thraul> i'll try it and see what happens i just don't like the default lucid boot screen and want to change it to something a little nicer....lol
[13:49] <Thraul> if i change it using the instructions on the ubuntugeek page and it does not work or something goes wrong can i trash it and restore it easily to default settings?
[13:52] <hobgoblin> Thraul: I have played with some of the other ones in the repo - a little better than the default
[13:53] <hobgoblin> yea I have used the update-alternatives a couple of times - once from the recovery menu
[13:53] <hobgoblin> hi man0riaX
[13:55] <man0riaX> Heya
[14:33] <th5th> afternoon all
[14:43] <ikt> heya
[15:26] <dragondon> @paultag LOL, s'okay, wasn't around any ways :)
[15:32] <DarkwingDuck> anyone seen mohi1?
[15:33] <leoquant> DarkwingDuck, no
[15:34] <DarkwingDuck> kk
[15:34]  * DarkwingDuck send another memoserv
[15:40] <lukjad86> DarkwingDuck he hangs out on ##5709
[15:40] <DarkwingDuck> thanks lukjad86
[15:47] <hobgoblin> DarkwingDuck: a few hours ago he was here
[15:51] <kermiac> anyone know how to make sense of this: On Dbus if you call "GetApplications" on org.ayatana.indicator.application it will dump them all
[15:53] <kermiac> or know how to get a list of all the indicators in lucid? (e.g. indicator-sound, indicator-me, etc, etc)
[16:06] <Francis1> duanedesign: good morning! :)
[16:06] <Francis1> u there? :)
[16:12] <Francis1> hello can someone please help me
[16:13] <Angus> does anyone have time to answer a strange question about ports and browsers
[16:13] <Angus> ?
[16:15] <phillw> Angus: I can try
[16:16] <Angus> thanks
[16:16] <phillw> ask away :-)
[16:16] <Angus> when i scan my computer or try to telnet it (or some other similar program) it won't connect
[16:16] <Angus> because it's behind a router
[16:16] <Angus> so how come i can do things like browse the internet
[16:17] <Angus> where servers are sending me information?
[16:18] <Francis1> guys, is it possible to get rid of the upgraded system and go back to my old one
[16:19] <phillw> Angus: overly simplified, but you can think of it as when you browse, you are making 'outbound' connections, the firewall on your router will allow this activity, however when you try to make an 'inbound' connection the router will block it.  I upgraded the new version of ubuntu (ubuntu 10.04 LST) i think?
[16:22] <robocop> mhm..
[16:23] <robocop> did you enable the canonical archive?
[16:23] <Francis1> and then when i tried to play the game that im playing, it says that my jave is not installed and all that crap
[16:23] <phillw> Francis1: and what is the problem with it?
[16:23] <robocop> okay
[16:23] <robocop> stfu phillw
[16:23] <robocop> Francis1,
[16:23] <phillw> Francis1: you just need to put on java
[16:23] <robocop> in 10.04 ubuntu removed sun-java6*
[16:23] <Francis1> Im confused? idk who do i answer
[16:23] <robocop> Francis1, go to system>>administration>>software sources
[16:23] <Francis1> ok so who do i listen to >.<
[16:23] <robocop> Francis1, go to system>>administration>>software sources
[16:23] <robocop> Francis1, go to system>>administration>>software sources
[16:24] <Francis1> ok hold on
[16:24] <robocop> okay then click on the "other software" tab
[16:24] <Francis1> done
[16:24] <robocop> okay the click the two check boxes next to http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner
[16:24] <robocop> see it?
[16:25] <robocop> check them
[16:25] <Francis1> there are 2 boxes
[16:25] <Francis1> that has "http"
[16:25] <robocop> right,
[16:25] <robocop> check them
[16:25] <Francis1> ok hold on
[16:25] <robocop> (:
[16:25] <Francis1> ok done
[16:25] <robocop> press close, and then reload when it prompts you
[16:26] <Francis1> ok hold on
[16:26] <Francis1> i hope that this will work
[16:26] <Francis1> damn
[16:26] <robocop> just stfu and do it.
[16:27] <Francis1> i did lol
[16:27] <robocop> okay, did it finish reloading?
[16:27] <Francis1> yes
[16:27] <robocop> k, now open up synaptic package manager
[16:27] <Francis1> done
[16:28] <robocop> then search "sun-java6-plugin"
[16:28] <Francis1> the color of the box is green
[16:28] <robocop> install that. it will include the JRE too with the Mozilla plugin. (browser java applets etc)
[16:28] <Angus> phillw: thanks but how does the router know the the connection from the server was started by me as an outgoing connection
[16:28] <Francis1> robocop: the color of the box is green
[16:29] <Francis1> can't install it... as i've told you, java is installed already but not working
 and then when i tried to play the game that im playing, it says that my jave is not installed and all that crap
[16:29] <Francis1> ^
[16:29] <robocop> oh. try running 'java --version'
[16:30] <robocop> i'm sure you know how to open a terminal, right?
[16:30] <Francis1> ya so open that on terminal?
[16:30] <robocop> lol no hold up
[16:30] <Francis1> ok
[16:30] <robocop> oh it's 'java -version'
[16:31] <phillw> Angus: the system keeps track of packets by their address information. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/security#firewall  has a little on firewalls, if you'd like some more information on Firewalls head over to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[16:31] <Francis1> ok hold on
[16:31] <robocop> Angus, what are you trying to do?
[16:32] <Francis1> robocop: this message popped out = java version "1.6.0_20"
[16:32] <Francis1> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_20-b02)
[16:32] <Francis1> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 16.3-b01, mixed mode, sharing)
[16:32] <phillw> robocop: learn about firewalls :-)
[16:32] <robocop> hmm.  Click  here to install Java.
[16:43] <Francis1> 2.If you believe you already have Java installed then you might get this  message if it is disabled.  It will need removing else it will fight with the sun-java.
[16:45] <robocop> i told him to rm the whole openjdk JRE
[16:46] <Francis1> you told me to uninstall 1 jdk sht there
[16:46] <Francis1> but there are lots of jdk there
[16:48] <Francis1> what do I do *confused*
[16:48] <robocop> OH SHIT
[16:48] <robocop> there we go
[16:48] <robocop> open synaptic
[16:48] <robocop> and search
[16:48] <geirha> Nah, different java versions will happily co-exist. You can switch which one is the default with update-java-alternatives
[16:48] <robocop> icedtea
[16:48] <nhandler> robocop: Please try and restrain yourself from saying all of those swears in here. They are not appreciated.
[16:48] <robocop> LOL OH MY GOD NHANDLER HI
[16:48] <robocop> okay (:
[16:49] <robocop> Francis1, yeah search 'icedtea' and then remove both packages.
[16:49] <Francis1> all of these fileS?
[16:49] <Francis1> I searced "Icedtea" and like 9 files showed up
[16:50]  * robocop *sigh*
[16:50] <robocop> open up a command line
[16:50] <robocop> and do
[16:50] <Francis1> ill paste what files showed up
[16:50] <robocop> 'sudo apt-get purge icedtea6*'
[16:50] <Francis1> hold on
[16:50] <robocop> no fk that
[16:50] <geirha> sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin && sudo update-java-alternatives --set java-6-sun && pkill firefox
[16:50] <Francis1> command line?
[16:50] <robocop> terminal
[16:50] <robocop> geirha,
[16:50] <Francis1> terminal you mean
[16:50] <robocop> yeah same thing
[16:51] <robocop> geirha, that doesnt help for the browser plugin.
[16:51] <geirha> robocop: Yes it does.
[16:52] <Francis1> ok done
[16:52] <Francis1> robocop: nxt?
[16:52] <robocop> refresh 'about:plugins' in firefox
[16:52] <robocop> do you see
[16:52] <robocop> Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_20
[16:52] <robocop> ?
[16:53] <Francis1> ok
[16:53] <Francis1> there's a box here like a browser
[16:53] <Francis1> there are
[16:53] <Francis1> Mozilla default Plug-in
[16:53] <Francis1> and QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.4
[16:54] <robocop> close it
[16:54] <robocop> open 'about:plugins'
 Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_20
[16:54] <robocop> do u see that
[16:55] <Francis1> can't se that on the box here
[16:55] <Francis1> want me to take a screenshot?
[16:55] <robocop> yeah
[16:55] <Francis1> ok hold on
[16:56] <Francis1> 1 min
[16:57] <Francis1> robocop: [IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/2crlq9w.png[/IMG]
[16:58] <robocop> wtf lol Francis1 scroll the page down
[16:58] <robocop> and look for Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_20
[16:58] <Francis1> I didn't know man my bad
[16:58] <robocop> oh shit
[16:58] <robocop> Francis1,
[16:58] <robocop> wtf are you doing
[16:58] <geirha> You have a winxp theme?
[16:59] <robocop> geirha, lol look at the address bar
[16:59] <robocop> go to
[16:59] <robocop> exactly
[16:59] <Francis1> *sigh* you told me to go to this thing
[16:59] <Francis1> yes i did?
[16:59] <robocop> 'about:plugins'
[16:59] <Francis1> this is what showing up
[16:59] <Francis1> I type: about plugins
[16:59] <Francis1> and this is what's showing up
[16:59] <robocop> lol no
[16:59] <robocop> about:plugins
[16:59] <robocop> have to have the colon
[16:59] <Francis1> oo need that licky face?
[16:59] <geirha> Oh, it's win32 firefox
[16:59] <robocop> geirha, lol yeah.
[16:59] <geirha> No wonder it's not working :)
[17:00] <Francis1> oh shoot
[17:00] <Francis1> ok im here now :P
[17:00] <robocop> nooo geirha he was redirected to firefox's site with a example of about:plugins
[17:00] <robocop> Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_20
[17:00] <robocop> do u see it?
[17:00] <Francis1> wait imn searching
[17:00] <geirha> robocop: Aah, haha now I see it :)
[17:01] <Francis1> nope no jave Title
[17:01] <Francis1> java*
[17:01] <Francis1> there are: Itunes appli detector, VLC multimedia plugin, Windows media plugin and whatnot
[17:01] <Francis1> but not Java
[17:02] <robocop> uh huh..
[17:02] <robocop> okay open a terminal
[17:02] <robocop> and do
[17:02] <robocop> locate libjavaplugin
[17:02] <robocop> and paste the output
[17:02] <Francis1> ok lol
[17:02] <Francis1> locate libjavaplugin <~~ paste this?
[17:03] <Francis1> can you put "locate libjavaplugin" nxt time pls lol
[17:03] <robocop> lol
[17:03] <robocop> paste the output
[17:03] <Francis1> done
[17:03] <robocop> paste...?
[17:03] <Francis1> abby@acerlaptop:~$ locate libjavaplugin
[17:03] <Francis1> /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[17:03] <Francis1> /usr/lib/iceape/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[17:03] <Francis1> /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[17:03] <Francis1> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/jre/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_jni.so
[17:03] <Francis1> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/jre/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_nscp.so
[17:03] <Francis1> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/jre/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_nscp_gcc29.so
[17:03] <Francis1> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[17:03] <Francis1> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/jre/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[17:03] <Francis1> /usr/lib/midbrowser/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[17:03] <Francis1> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[17:03] <Francis1> /usr/lib/xulrunner/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[17:03] <Francis1> /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[17:04] <pedro3005> !paste | Francis1
[17:04] <Votebot> Francis1: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:04] <Francis1> ugh i dont know if that's what you meant.. my 1st language isn't english
[17:04] <Francis1> !paste
[17:04] <robocop> lol.
[17:04] <Francis1> :o darn im looking stupid in here >.< sorry guys
[17:05] <pedro3005> it's okay
[17:05] <geirha> Francis1: Try restarting the browser, but do NOT use the X in the title bar, choose   File -> Close, then start firefox again
[17:05] <Francis1> ok hold on
[17:06] <robocop> geirha, do you know what closing that way does vs "x"
[17:06] <geirha> Or is it File -> Quit ? Mine is translated to my language
[17:06] <geirha> robocop: X closes that firefox window, but if there are any other firefox windows open, firefox will still be running
[17:07] <robocop> ooooh right
[17:07] <robocop> 9
[17:07] <robocop> (:
[17:07] <robocop> *
[17:07] <geirha> Often a "Downloads" window will still be around, minimized so you don't notice it
[17:07] <Francis1> ok so what's nxt lol
[17:07] <robocop> Francis1, open 'about:plugins' again
[17:07] <Francis1> oke
[17:08] <robocop> this time literally type
[17:08] <Francis1> no java
[17:08] <robocop> oh
[17:08] <Francis1> ya
[17:09] <robocop> uh.. try 'ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins'
[17:09] <Francis1> terminal?
[17:09] <robocop> mhm
[17:09] <Francis1> done
[17:10] <robocop> lol paste it please
[17:10] <Francis1> !paste flashplugin-alternative.so             libtotem-gmp-plugin.so
[17:10] <Francis1> libjavaplugin.so                       libtotem-mully-plugin.so
[17:10] <Francis1> librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so  libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
[17:10] <Francis1> libtotem-cone-plugin.so
[17:10] <robocop> lol :/
[17:10] <paultag> Francis1, please use a pastebin next time
[17:10] <Francis1> ugh idk how to pase it good lol
[17:10] <paultag> !pastebin
[17:10] <Votebot> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:10] <Francis1> how tho
[17:10] <paultag> !pastebin | Francis1
[17:10] <Votebot> Francis1: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:10] <Francis1> !pastebin flashplugin-alternative.so             libtotem-gmp-plugin.so
[17:10] <Francis1> libjavaplugin.so                       libtotem-mully-plugin.so
[17:10] <Francis1> librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so  libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
[17:10] <Francis1> libtotem-cone-plugin.so
[17:10] <Francis1> ugh w/e
[17:10] <paultag> Francis1, no, if you keep doing that, we will have to ask you to leave
[17:11] <paultag> Francis1, it's kinda a big deal :(
[17:11] <Francis1> ill just pm it to your robocop if im gona paste
[17:11] <Francis1> I'll just send it to robocop
[17:11] <robocop> lol Francis1
[17:11] <geirha> Francis1: You go to that page, paste it there, click send, then you get a URL which you can paste here
[17:11] <Francis1> better?
[17:11] <robocop> lol
[17:11] <Francis1> oh ok
[17:11] <paultag> Francis1, then no one else can help. Try using pastebin, it's really easy
[17:11] <paultag> heyya geirha
[17:11] <Francis1> much better
[17:12] <geirha> paultag: Hi :)
[17:12] <Francis1> !pastebin
[17:12] <Francis1> !paste
[17:12] <geirha> Francis1: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:12] <Francis1> i feel like burning my computer
[17:12] <Francis1> ya im here
[17:12] <Francis1> i pasted it
[17:12] <robocop> lol
[17:12] <paultag> geirha, thank you again, I had an issue a few weeks back with my desktop and the post that fixed it was an old one that you made off Ubuntu Forums. Thanks! :)
[17:12] <robocop> Francis1, you'll have to tell us the URL of the paste
[17:12] <paultag> geirha, when I saw your name I chuckled and figured I'd tell you :)
[17:13] <geirha> Haha, cool :)
[17:13] <Francis1> oo here
[17:13] <robocop> oh, hi paultag.
[17:13] <Francis1> robocop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/437899/
[17:13] <Francis1> did I do it right/
[17:13] <robocop> good job (:
[17:13] <geirha> Francis1: Perfec!
[17:13] <geirha> t
[17:13] <Francis1> thanks lol
[17:13] <paultag> Francis1, much better, thank you :)
[17:13]  * paultag goes away again
[17:13] <Francis1> sorry xd
[17:14] <Francis1> ok nxt step pls *if you thinkg of something*
[17:17] <Francis1> aw he left the room ;[
[17:17] <Francis1> what do I do now >.<
[17:17] <phillw> hi Francis1
[17:17] <Francis1> hello
[17:17] <geirha> His connection died
[17:18] <Francis1> okay
[17:18] <geirha> Francis1: Everything looks right, so it's odd it isn't working.
[17:18] <Francis1> my system got messed up since I upgraded yesterday...
[17:18] <Chesamo> Francis1, geirha: What seems to be the problem?
[17:19] <Francis1> about my java
[17:19] <phillw> Francis1: you have the wrong flash plugin
[17:19] <geirha> Francis1: Try the following, in a terminal:  sudo update-java-alternatives --set java-6-sun
[17:19] <Francis1> oo
[17:19] <Francis1> ok hold on
[17:19] <geirha> Then exit firefox like before, and start it again
[17:20] <phillw> The ultimate problem was the  java/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so plugin no longer works  with Firefox.  The new plugin is java/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so, which  isn't very intuitively named or located, but there you go.
[17:20] <Francis1> yay
[17:21] <Francis1> it's now working
[17:21] <Francis1> omg ily lol
[17:21] <Francis1> geirha: <333
[17:21] <geirha> Francis1: Great :)
[17:21] <Francis1> hahaha
[17:21] <Francis1> thank you so much!
[17:21] <Francis1> and i have another problem too lol
[17:21] <phillw> geirha: you reading the same thread as me ;-)
[17:21] <Francis1> about my sounds this time.
[17:22] <geirha> phillw: No, I've seen this problem waaay to many times. update-java-alternatives is the way to go.
[17:23] <geirha> Lot's of people tell you to uninstall icedtea, but that really doesn't help anything.
[17:23] <Francis1> geirha: you're my hero ;)
[17:23] <Francis1> bye guys
[17:23] <Francis1> thanks a lot!
[17:23] <Francis1> have a wonderful day
[17:23] <Francis1> ;)
[17:23] <phillw> yeah, I'll have to try that on mine, I'm having flash problems with chromium and it appears to be the same solution :-)
[17:23] <Francis1> and btw
[17:24] <Francis1> is jave and flash the same>?
[17:24] <Chesamo> Francis1: Noooo
[17:24] <Francis1> like if I deleted flash, java will get deleted as well?
[17:24] <geirha> If only Sun can get those proprietary libraries replaced with proper open source ones, these problems will go away
[17:24] <phillw> icedtea is getting better, as is open-jdk. but they're not quite 'there' yet
[17:25] <geirha> Francis1: No, java and flash are two completely different technologies
[17:25] <Francis1> coz im having problems w/ my sounds.. like sometimes it wont work lol...
[17:26] <geirha> All these problems are just because there are some proprietary libraries in java, mainly swing or parts of it anyway, and the owners of those don't want to open source it
[17:26] <Chesamo> Francis1: What situations cause the sound to not work?
[17:26] <Francis1> hmm
[17:26] <geirha> As soon as there's a proper open source version of those are made, we can kiss sun-java6-plugin goodbye
[17:26] <Francis1> when Im playing runescape
[17:26] <Francis1> sound in youtube wont work
[17:26] <Francis1> and sometimes will stop at 1 second or 3 seconds
[17:26] <Chesamo> Francis1: Ohhhhhh Runescape.... fond memories
[17:26] <Francis1> ha!
[17:26] <Francis1> I'm 138 2223 :p
[17:27] <Chesamo> Francis1: It's because the Flash and Java plugins conflict for the sound resources. Not really something you can fix.
[17:27] <Chesamo> Francis1: I have no idea what "2223" means
[17:27] <Francis1> really...
[17:27] <Francis1> that sucks lol
[17:27] <Francis1> 2223 total level
[17:27] <Francis1> :D
[17:27] <pedro3005> rofl runescape
[17:27] <Francis1> hahahaha
[17:27] <Chesamo> Francis1: I played back before "Slayer" was a skill, so my stats are much less impressive
[17:27] <Francis1> i hate slayer man. taking 10 yrs to level up
[17:28] <pedro3005> I gave up at like level 20
[17:28] <Chesamo> Francis1: The first person to complete the Ancient Spells quest though!
[17:28] <Francis1> niceeeeeeeeee
[17:28] <Chesamo> Francis1: That was like.... seven years ago though
[17:28] <Francis1> :P
[17:28] <Francis1> oo long time ago hehe
[17:28] <geirha> Francis1: I've noticed that sound stops working after a while, when a flash applet has been running for a while.  That'll at least "slow it down"
[17:30] <Francis1> why can't i switch to resizable details
[17:30] <Francis1> it say's that my system doesnt support it..
[17:30] <Francis1> geirha: ok help me pls! :P
[17:30] <Chesamo> Francis1: pffff.... chesamo, maybe? giabbai? I don't remember, really
[17:30] <Francis1> geirha: Im not using flash anyways lol
[17:30] <Francis1> Chesamo: what about try to go to the log in page
[17:30] <Chesamo> ...pfth what
[17:30] <Chesamo> I can't go /away for some reason?
[17:31] <Francis1> and try to change your settings
[17:31] <Chesamo> Well, company's here so I gotta go
[17:31] <Francis1> oh ok
[17:31] <Francis1> peace
[17:31] <Francis1> geirha: can you please help me XD
[17:31] <geirha> Francis1: Which Ubuntu release are you running?
[17:31] <Francis1> what do you mean
[17:31] <geirha> Ubuntu 9.10? Ubuntu 10.04?
[17:32] <Francis1> ubuntu 10.04 lst
[17:32] <geirha> Ok, then go to Applications -> Ubuntu software center
[17:32] <geirha> Search for flashblock
[17:33] <geirha> install it, then restart firefox
[17:33] <Francis1> ok hold on
[17:35] <Francis1> what to install
[17:35] <Francis1> lol
[17:35] <Francis1> geirha: XD
[17:37] <Francis1> geirha: Flasblock extension for firefox, ya?
[17:37] <geirha> Francis1: Yes
[17:37] <Francis1> click then get software
[17:37] <Francis1> oo wont work lols
[17:37] <Francis1> hold on
[17:38] <geirha> If you still have synaptic open, you need to close it. Only one package installer can work at a time
[17:38] <Francis1> ya
[17:38] <Francis1> ok there's no "install this file" here
[17:39] <geirha> No install button? Hm. Odd.
[17:39] <Francis1> geirha: would you like to see a screenshot
[17:39] <Francis1> yes
[17:39] <Francis1> only "More info" is the option
[17:40] <geirha> A screenshot could help yeah.   Alt+Printscreen to only screenshot the active window btw
[17:40] <Francis1> yes
[17:42] <Francis1> geirha: sorry about that
[17:42] <Francis1> ok here's your screenshot
[17:43] <Francis1> geirha: [IMG]http://i47.tinypic.com/2laphf8.png[/IMG]
[17:44] <geirha> Yeah, I checked in a VM meanwhile. The package apparently changed name since 9.10
[17:44] <geirha> So you want the second one in that list
[17:44] <geirha> xul-ext-flashblock
[17:45] <Francis1> ok hold on
[17:47] <Francis1> ok then install?
[17:47] <geirha> Yes, then restart firefox when it's installed.
[17:47] <Francis1> alrighty
[17:48] <Francis1> taking 10 years to install so hold on lol
[17:48] <Francis1> well i installed it and asked me for password
[17:49] <Francis1> then i entered and it disappeared
[17:49] <Francis1> so you think it's done installing
[17:50] <geirha> Click the more information button for that package
[17:51] <geirha> It should say there whether it's still installing or done installing
[17:51] <Francis1> 0ya it's installed
[17:52] <geirha> Good, then restart firefox and try going to a youtube movie or some other flashsite
[17:52] <Francis1> ok
[17:52] <Francis1> how'd i got this problem tho..
[17:55] <Angus> i have another question about ports and ips
[17:55] <Angus> is there an easy way to find out the ip on the local network of my ubuntu laptop and my dads xp desktop
[17:55] <Angus> thanks in advance
[17:55] <Francis2> back lol
[17:56] <Francis2> geirha: how come that I'm always getting disconnected and wont let me reconnect then im gonna have to suspend
[17:56] <Francis2> then internet will work again...
[18:03] <geirha> Francis2: Hm, dunno, the driver for your network card is possibly not working correctly
[18:03] <Francis2> this been happening since yesterday
[18:03] <geirha> Angus: You can try pinging the broadcast adress   ping -b <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:03] <Francis2> since i upgraded...
[18:03] <Francis2> terminal?
[18:04] <geirha> Then it sounds like the new kernel introduced a bug for you
[18:05] <Angus> i tried that
[18:05] <Angus> it just started ping registering lost packets
[18:05] <Angus> to a different ip to the one on the command line
[18:06] <Francis2> ya damn i hate gettign disconnected
[18:06] <Francis2> is this going to be like this forever?...
[18:06] <geirha> Hm. Well, some routers allow you to set IP based on hardware adress, then all machines would have the same ip every time
[18:07] <geirha> Francis2: Not if you let them know about it, e.g. by filing a bug at launchpad.net
[18:07] <Francis2> how tho lol
[18:07] <Angus> would there be a way to find out
[18:08] <Angus> even if it changed regularly
[18:08] <stlsaint> anyone here good with networking?
[18:09] <geirha> Francis2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[18:09] <phillw> Angus: try smbtree
[18:10] <Angus> whats that?
[18:10] <geirha> Angus: The router's web interface may have a page with a list of connected computers
[18:10] <geirha> Also, ##networking may have some ideas
[18:10] <Francis2> ok hold on im going to the site
[18:11] <Francis2> geirha: do i have to create an account? xd
[18:12] <Angus> ok
[18:12] <Angus> thanks a lot
[18:12] <Angus> though i'm surprised there isn't a terminal command to work it out
[18:12] <geirha> Francis2: At launchpad, yes.
[18:13] <Francis2> damn i feel like not doing this lol
[18:14] <Francis2> geirha: I'm gonna do this when this gets worse i guess
[18:14] <Francis2> ok im off to eat breakfst :P thanks geirha
[18:16] <Francis2> geirha: peace. have a wonderful day :P
[18:29] <b52-1> Hi all. Got a macbook pro I'm trying to install ubuntu on in a dual boot situation. Been following the instructions set out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation. Problem I've run into is the step for the dual-boot installation where it says to, "On the last dialog of the installer, be sure to click the ???Advanced??? button and choose to install the boot
[18:29] <b52-1> loader (grub) to /dev/sda3". Problem is, SDA3 doesn't exist, not really sure where to install grub (normally use ubuntu on PCs and don't have to worry about it). It seems that the guide expects the installer to creation the root/swap partitions in the previous step. Figured I could use gparted to created a new partition in the free space but not sure what to make it. Tried making a ext4 partition
[18:29] <b52-1>  to fill the remaining space but that was unsuccessful.
[18:32] <geirha> Which partition is / ?
[18:32] <geirha> Or asked in another way, which partitions were created for ubuntu?
[18:33] <b52-1> nothing
[18:33] <b52-1> the installer did nothing when I told it to use up the remaining free space
[18:34] <b52-1> hang on just getting the installer back up to the partition choosing stage
[18:36] <b52-1> there's dev/sda1 that's 208MB, and /dev/sda2 which is the OSX partition
[18:38] <b52-1> then a remaining 294.2GB of free space. Step 4 in the dual-booting install guide says to use the "largest continuous free space" option. Takes a second or two and then moves onto the next part of the install (username etc)
[18:39] <geirha> Odd, that should've created partitions on the free space
[18:44] <b52-1> seem to remember it doing so in the 9.04 installer
[18:44] <b52-1> tried that a few months ago
[18:46] <b52-1> possible I did something else then, but at this point there's not really much room to stuff up ;)
[18:48] <b52-1> guess the only other thing I could do is try dig up the 9.04 CD and see if that installs (trying to install 10.04
[18:57] <b52-1> actually looks as though it doesn't install there as later in the installer it says "The following partitions are going to be formatted:
[18:57] <b52-1>  partition #4 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext4
[18:57] <b52-1>  partition #5 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as swap"
[18:58] <b52-1> in the ready for install section of the installer
[18:59] <b52-1> hello hello.. The following partitions are going to be formatted:
[18:59] <b52-1>  partition #4 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext4
[18:59] <b52-1> err
[18:59] <b52-1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1468240
[18:59] <b52-1> that rather
[19:00] <b52-1> seems to be a similar problem
[19:00] <b52-1> hmm
[19:21] <SomeDude> hello, anyone there?
[19:21] <nhandler> Hello SomeDude
[19:21] <SomeDude> hey, i have a question
[19:22] <nhandler> What is your question SomeDude ?
[19:22] <SomeDude> im having trouble with my ubuntu and my wireless network
[19:22] <SomeDude> is there a way to check to see if ubuntu is recongizing my wireless card?
[19:24] <nhandler> SomeDude: Define recognizing please. Do you mean seeing that it is in your computer or that it will work with Ubuntu? You also might be interested in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[19:28] <SomeDude> thanks
[19:28] <SomeDude> i've been trying to get my ubuntu laptop to find my wireless network but to no avail
[19:28] <SomeDude> i thought maybe ubuntu wasnt recognizing the wireless card
[19:29] <SomeDude> but i just did the lspci - v | less
[19:29] <SomeDude> and it seems to recognize it
[19:29] <SomeDude> still not sure why it cant find my network
[19:34] <Amicose> Hi - I just attempted to install ubuntu 10.04 via parallels 3.0 on osx 10.5.8. Install appears to run fine but when it gets to the GUI it gets stuck in a loop trying to refresh or reboot itself, and occasionally plays a short bongo pattern.  How do I escape this loop?
[22:11] <ZachK_> abhinav: welcome again
[22:27] <ZachK_> heya Chesamo
[22:28] <Chesamo> Hello, ZachK_
[22:29] <ZachK_> welcome again abhinav
[22:36] <Chesamo> Aww...
[22:39] <ZachK_> lol
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