[20:14] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: Might look into that and see what the price is for it, if I decide to even get certified in any form of Linux, although I might, any form of Linux cert would look badass on your resume and your wall, sorry 'bout the language there/
[20:16] <revenge> ciao
[20:16] <revenge> !list
[20:17] <floogy> AlanBell, http://pastebin.com/Dgb7jsZT  E: Broken packages and  http://pastebin.com/vNzN2ey6
[20:18] <TeamRocket1233c> G2G.
[20:19] <AlanBell> floogy: that looks annoying, did you do an apt-get update first? I don't have Lucid so I am on LibreOffice so I can't really test that
[20:20] <floogy> yes, do you know a libre office ppa for lucid
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> floogy: uninstall all openoffice packages, then download the archive for openoffice, extract and install the debs in one command and should be ok
[20:20] <floogy> ?
[20:20] <L3top> floogy: I am on lucid.  sudo apt-get update  then sudo dpkg --configure -a   and maybe throw in a sudo apt-get -f install   for good measure... then tell me what you need that is lucid specific.
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> floogy: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=lucid
[20:21] <coraxx> Anybody with IPTABLES knowledge --> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j SNAT --to-source $PUBLIC188  ....is that correct and how do I add a paramter that makes sure only this rules apply to one specific internal ip adress ?
[20:23] <coraxx> floogy: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa/
[20:24] <coraxx> floogy: better yet...a guide !!! --> http://www.mytechguide.org/9088/install-libreoffice-ubuntu/
[20:24] <coraxx> floogy: it also tells you how to remove openoffice
[20:25] <floogy> coraxx, I did sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa apt-get update. Now it will remove openoffice automatically on a dist-upgrade ;)
[20:25] <AlanBell> floogy: I would be a bit cautious of that
[20:25] <coraxx> floogy: nice :-)
[20:26] <floogy> AlanBell, what do you think on?
[20:26] <AlanBell> floogy: well it might well work and be awesome, you might also consider upgrading to a new overall release of Ubuntu
[20:27] <floogy> ok, I'll switch to 12.04 precise with a new computer anyway
[20:27] <semitones> Hello Ubuntu-ites. Is it possible to tell ubuntu NOT to check for a new release all the time? "check_new_release" is misbehaving on my boot and taking a lot of IO usage
[20:28] <trism> semitones: software-properties-gtk, Updates tab, notify me of new updates - Never
[20:28] <semitones> awesome
[20:29] <semitones> thanks I'll try it
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> semitones: you can disable the startup item as well as tell the system not to check for updates
[20:29] <floogy>  openclipart-svg 34,5MB/354MB wow!
[20:29] <semitones> ActionParsnip: would that be through BootUp Manager (bum)
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> semitones: I don't think bum works now, its within the OS too, not at the bum level
[20:30] <semitones> hmm
[20:31] <i7c> my computer is permanently connected to a VPN. problem: my ISP resets my internet connection once a day (always at the same time). how could i automatically reconnect after this happens?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> semitones: cd /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop     is what makes it run at startup
[20:33] <Everyday> anyone know of any issues installing 12.04 on an acer aspire v3 laptop?
[20:33] <trism> semitones: I think /etc/update-motd.d/91-release-upgrade is what eventually runs check-new-release on login, but I think the option in software-properties-gtk should keep it from doing too much work
[20:34] <trism> semitones: might only be remotely though, probably ActionParsnip's on session login
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> Everyday: looks like a dual GPU system which is a tonne of eadaches in Linux
[20:36] <semitones> ok, i'm investigating. Thank you very much trism and ActionParsnip!
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> semitones: if it doesn't then you'll be fine
[20:37] <semitones> ActionParsnip: what is the /etc/xdg/autostart/ directory for? Is that everything that autostarts?
[20:37] <Everyday> ActionParsnip thanks.  I'm just looking for a decent laptop to install 12.04.  any recommendations?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> semitones: they are hidden by default so your user can add their own, they make system stuff start
[20:39] <raven> irca på pendeln på G hem är fan epic
[20:40] <aarcane> any one know of any MAJOR issues with having ubuntu installed to a USB drive instead of a hard drive?  it's for permanent deployment in a single system.
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> !sw
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> !sweden
[20:40] <Debolaz> aarcane: Depends on the type of USB drive.
[20:41] <Kishi> So I've just installed drivers for my NVIDIA graphic card, and I'm having some trouble getting it working with X server
[20:41] <Debolaz> aarcane: If we are talking a proper SSD with a USB interface, there aren't any problems, performance will be just fine.
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> Everyday: system 76 can come pre-installed
[20:41] <officerrigg> thats english bitch
[20:41] <officerrigg> What up you fucking piece of shits?
[20:41] <Debolaz> aarcane: If you are thinking of a USB stick type device, you will have high latency for reads/writes, though bandwidth should be fine.
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> Everyday: if you look on amazon you will see people saying if ubuntu worked
[20:41] <aarcane> Debolaz, I'm looking at kingston TD drives
[20:41] <officerrigg> !ops
[20:41] <aarcane> *DT
[20:42] <nanotube> hi. so is there away to manually clear the entries in the notifications applet? i'm using xchat, and when someone pms me, but then changes nick, those pm entries remain in the dropdown list in the applet until i quit xchat...
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> Everyday: there are also people saying on the linux hcl if their system worked
[20:42] <Debolaz> aarcane: Could you link to it?
[20:42] <Kishi> When I run the NVIDIA X Server Settings, I get the message saying that I'm not running the NVIDIA X server
[20:42] <aarcane> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139246
[20:42] <Plumblum> after installing phpmyadmin
[20:42] <arnpro> What is the best way/command to copy 200gb of data, from /mnt to a sdb device mounted also
[20:42] <Plumblum> shoudlnt files appear in /var/www/phpmyadmin ?
[20:42] <Kishi> I'm instructed to run nvidia-xconfig as root, and then restart the X server
[20:42] <aarcane> Debolaz, I want to mount them on an internal USB header and boot them in a raid1 configuration
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> Kishi: did you install nvidia-xconfig     command
[20:42] <Kishi> And I did so
[20:43] <Kishi> It did change some things in xorg.conf
[20:43] <Kishi> But it doesn't seem to work.
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> Kishi: ok then reboot and it should load the driver, your display isn't reporting EDID as it should (likely)
[20:43] <Debolaz> aarcane: Latency is going to be your problem. Ie, it's going to take significantly longer from a read request from the OS is issued, till the data has returned, compared to a normal harddrive. RAID will not change this.
[20:43] <Kishi> I did reboot the X server
[20:43] <Kishi> Many times
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> Kishi: then does nvidia-settings work ok
[20:43] <aarcane> Debolaz, latency is the only issue?  that just means slower load times for stuff, right?
[20:44] <Debolaz> aarcane: Slower reaction when things needs to be accessed from the harddrive.
[20:44] <Debolaz> aarcane: Load time will suffer as a result of that as well of course.
[20:44] <Kishi> Nvidia settings shows up the same GUI which told me that I'm not running NVIDIA X driver
[20:44] <aarcane> I'm looking to replace some...  poor quality "traditional" sata SSDs.  For most of what I want, everything should be loaded into RAM on first use and never unloaded.  I'm using mpd & xbmc on one system, and running a ZFS file server on another, and these crap SSDs keep losing data.
[20:45] <Plumblum> anyone familiar with this problem ?
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> Kishi: I suggest you run:   less /var/log/Xorg.0.log    to see what is happening
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> Plumblum: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin
[20:46] <arnpro> hey guys, does anyone knwo what is the best way/command to copy 200gb of data, from /mnt to a mounted sdb device also??
[20:46] <Kishi> Well, I probably won't understand a thing
[20:46] <Debolaz> aarcane: It might be somewhat expensive to get the same amount of data on USB sticks as a low grade SSD.
[20:46] <Kishi> Do you want me to send it to pastebin?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> Kishi: look for EE and WW   in the file, it is fairly english
[20:46] <aarcane> Debolaz, I'm using 8GB SSDs, and only need about 6 for any system.  I've limited myself to 8GB on purpose to make upgrades and backups easier and faster :)
[20:47] <Kishi> Some directories don't exist
[20:47] <Debolaz> aarcane: Well, it works just fine to have the OS on an USB stick. But you'll just have to see if you are willing to live with the tradeoffs I've mentioned.
[20:47] <zykotick9> arnpro: "cp -rv /foo /mnt" would be one way
[20:48] <Kishi> Well yes, the log said that system failed to load NVIDIA kernel module
[20:48] <Plumblum> ActionParsnip, thx had no idea about the "dpkg-reconfigure" but it works now
[20:49] <Kishi> I'm not sure what to do about it though.
[20:49] <aarcane> Debolaz, these drives are pretty slow.  I'll have to try it and see, I 'spose.  I'll try it on my media server first before putting it on the file server.
[20:50] <K350> My computer starts to boil - high cpu usage - when I play a flv file, Despite what player I use Anyone?
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> Plumblum: its all in the docs.....a little searching goes a long way
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> Kishi: keep reading down, you'll get warnings about fonts
[20:51] <istvan> hello - I have a folder which I want to have 775 permissions - but when I add folders/file or new ones are genreated they have other permissions. is there a way to have them default to 775?
[20:52] <Kishi> ActionParsnip: Nope, I didn't get anything about fonts
[20:52] <Kishi> ActionParsnip: Just some missing modules
[20:52] <AlanBell> istvan: you need to set the "sticky bit" on the directory
[20:52] <zykotick9> istvan: seems like a permissive setting 775, but if you want it system wide, see umask
[20:53] <Dekker3D> Hey all. I can login to my guest account, but when I try to login to my own account the screen goes black for a bit and kicks me back to the login screen... it's not a wrong password, because I tried another pass and it just told me it was wrong.
[20:53] <Ryan_Burchett> Anybody know of any good universal Unix decompiolers?
[20:53] <AlanBell> istvan: something like chmod 1775 directory
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> Kishi: I can give you my xorg.conf file if you want, may work?
[20:53] <k1l> Dekker3D: full partitions maybe?
[20:53] <Kishi> ActionParsnip: Sure, let's try it.
[20:54] <zykotick9> Ryan_Burchett: hopefully most "Unix" software just comes with the source code...
[20:54] <istvan> AlanBell: thanks!
[20:54] <histo> Kishi: just reinstall your nvidia driver
[20:54] <Dekker3D> Would that cause such a strange error, k1l?
[20:54] <Ryan_Burchett> I know, but I want a decomiolor for all of my sofware... I've got some windows programs I would like to view...
[20:54] <k1l> Dekker3D: could be
[20:54] <AlanBell> istvan: I might be a bit wrong about that, but I think that should point you in the right direction
[20:55] <Dekker3D> 14.3 GB free on an SSD does not count as "full", right?
[20:55] <Ryan_Burchett> Dekker3D no...
[20:55] <danielboston26> no but you should free up space
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> Kishi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1159731
[20:55] <k1l> Dekker3D: you could take a look into the .xsession-errors in the users home or the dmesg in /var/log
[20:55] <Dekker3D> It only has 128 GB, shared with a Windows partition
[20:55] <AlanBell> Dekker3D: not neccessarily, but you might have run out of inodes or something
[20:56] <Dekker3D> I have no idea what inodes are. Could you explain?
[20:56] <Dekker3D> Oh lol. I can't sudo su because I'm a guest.
[20:56] <Ryan_Burchett> Lol yes.
[20:56] <Ryan_Burchett> XD
[20:57] <AlanBell> Dekker3D: if you have vast numbers of small files a not-full disk might report as full sometimes. Why do you think the disk is full?
[20:57] <Dekker3D> AlanBell, k1l asked if it's full.
[20:57] <danielboston26> AlanBell: he was wasking if 14gb free of 128gb is considered "full"
[20:57] <Dekker3D> Actually, of 64 GB because I split the SSD between two OSes.. but yeah
[20:58] <AlanBell> Dekker3D: oh, sorry, I missed the start of the question
[20:58] <k1l> Dekker3D: 5% is reserved for root only. so if ots under 5% there is no login
[20:58] <Kishi> OK, got it
[20:58] <i7c> my computer is permanently connected to a VPN. problem: my ISP resets my internet connection once a day (always at the same time). how could i automatically reconnect after this happens?
[20:58] <Kishi> I'll reboot now and try it
[20:58] <Ryan_Burchett> Stupid question here, but how do I change my mouse on Gnome desktop..?
[20:58] <danielboston26> i7c yell at your isp not to reset your connection
[20:58] <Dekker3D> Hm.
[20:58] <danielboston26> i7c that is pretty annoying
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> Ryan_Burchett: change in what way?
[20:58] <i7c> danielboston26: i did already :-/
[20:59] <Dekker3D> Well, it's 10% of the whole disk and 20% of the partition. That should be fine.
[20:59] <danielboston26> Ryan_Burchett :  what do you mean?
[20:59] <MasterOfDisaster> i7c: check in regular intervals if the tunnel is working, if not, reconnect
[20:59] <Ryan_Burchett> ActionParsnip I wanna change the cursor, like change it's color to black XD
[20:59] <Dekker3D> The .xsession-errors fils in my guest account doesn't mention anything worthwhile
[20:59] <floogy> Dekker3D, df -i to see how much inodes are used
[20:59] <MasterOfDisaster> i7c: it's what I do with our flaky vpn asa gateway
[21:00] <Ryan_Burchett> I want to make my cursor black, but I don't know what to do to change it.
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> Ryan_Burchett: try myunity or ubuntu-tweak
[21:00] <Ryan_Burchett> Okay, thank you ActionParsnip;  will try that out!
[21:00] <Dekker3D> It has 12 entries, floogy
[21:00] <i7c> MasterOfDisaster: how could i check the easiest way if the tunnel is still active? i know that after connection loss there is no connection to the internet possible anymore... how can i use that?
[21:01] <Kishi> Oh hey, it didn't work.
[21:01] <k1l> Dekker3D: the .xsession errors in the users home. not the guests home
[21:01] <i7c> MasterOfDisaster: ping google.com or and check the response or something like that?
[21:01] <floogy> Dekker3D, look at the column IUse%
[21:01] <MasterOfDisaster> i7c: ping an IP address in the VPN, it it's reachable the tunnel is up
[21:02] <i7c> MasterOfDisaster: ah right =)
[21:02] <floogy> Is there a partition (line) listed with almiost 100%
[21:02] <floogy> <- Dekker3D,
[21:03] <Kishi> ActionParsnip: Any other ideas?
[21:03] <Dekker3D> Ah, moment. I was in another tty, floogy
[21:03] <Ryan_Burchett> myunity dose not have a mouse setting, and I cannot find Ubuntu-Tweak. :\
[21:04] <Ryan_Burchett> myunity dose not have a mouse setting, and I cannot find Ubuntu-Tweak, ActionParsnip...
[21:04] <Ryan_Burchett> :\
[21:04] <k1l> Dekker3D: and a df -h to take a look at the 5% FILLING
[21:04] <Dekker3D> And yeah, I couldn't access the .xsession-errors in my own home dir because I'm not logged in on it
[21:04] <Ryan_Burchett> #name
[21:04] <k1l> -caps-lock :/
[21:04] <DJRWolf1> besides ClamAV, are there any good security software(s) for Ubuntu?
[21:04] <floogy> Dekker3D, df -h and df -i to look if a partition is the culprit. ~/.xsession-errors as suggested by k1l is another approach
[21:04] <Dekker3D> floogy, df -i has two entries at 23% each.. the rest is about 1% each
[21:05] <floogy> that's ok
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> Ryan_Burchett: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hu9JrdSXB8&feature=player_embedded
[21:05] <Dekker3D> floogy, df -h lists an Earth 2150 cd whose iso file I mounted as 100% use
[21:05] <Dekker3D> Seems perfectly natural since it's read-only
[21:05] <floogy> So if df -h do not list nearly 100% go with k1l's approach and look for errors
[21:06]  * Ryan_Burchett RyanWyan
[21:06] <Dekker3D> It also lists a normal drive as 96%.. so that's too full?
[21:06] <floogy> Dekker3D, yes cd/dvd's and other read only media got 100%
[21:07] <Dekker3D> floogy, it seems to be an external drive. Would a 96% filled external drive cause problems?
[21:07] <floogy> Dekker3D, Is that mounted as your home directory and high is the amount of free disk space in MiB?
[21:08] <Dekker3D> It's not mounted as my home directory, and it has 29 GB left of disk space.
[21:08] <floogy> So that's not the culprit
[21:08] <Dekker3D> And I just realized... I CAN actually log in on my ordinary account.
[21:08] <Dekker3D> Because on that other tty, I AM
[21:08] <Dekker3D> But the Ubuntu login screen just isn't letting me
[21:09] <k1l> Dekker3D: so thats smells like a gui error. take a look the x.session errors
[21:09] <Dekker3D> I can't really make much sense of it myself
[21:10] <Dekker3D> I need to use the tty to move it to a place where my guest account can read it
[21:10] <Dekker3D> And then I can use the GUI to copy it to a pastebin, I guess.
[21:10] <Dekker3D> And maybe show it to one of you?
[21:10] <k1l> ? if you are logged in just use pastebinit
[21:10] <Dekker3D> Lol. Okay, will try.
[21:12] <soman> Hi all. I'm trying to replace Win7 by Ubuntu. Can someone tell me how I can upgrade gcc compiler to last available release version?
[21:13] <histo> soman: you may have to install from source or your can check backports
[21:13] <histo> !backports | soman
[21:13] <Dekker3D> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1159759/
[21:14] <Kishi> I just don't know what to do with those drivers -_-
[21:14] <Kishi> I probably should go to NVIDIA guys and ask for support
[21:14] <reborn> i need some answer.
[21:14] <Kishi> But it would be a looooooong wait
[21:14] <DJRWolf1> besides ClamAV, are there any good security software(s) for Ubuntu??
[21:14] <Dekker3D> Me?
[21:15] <histo> Kishi: how did you initially install nvidia drivers?
[21:15] <soman> histo: as I understand I can build it myself?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> DJRWolf1: security in what way?
[21:15] <sideone> hi all, anyone familiar with rsyslog?
[21:15] <Dekker3D> Oh, nvm. So anyway.. can anyone help me with that paste? Figure out the problem?
[21:15] <reborn> anyone, i need some answer?
[21:15] <histo> !ask | reborn
[21:15] <DJRWolf1> anti-malware
[21:16] <Lady_swe> Hi. Chromium and Chrome is same thing?
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> reborn: without a question, how do you expect to get an answer?
[21:16] <danielboston26> reborn just ask
[21:16] <histo> Lady_swe: chromium is the open source version of chrome
[21:16] <epinky> !ask | reborn
[21:16] <reborn> ok, my desktop running radeon hd 5450, but which is requirement 400 watt power supply, and my deesktop running is 240 watt, is fine with that?
[21:16] <Kishi> histo: I downloaded them from nvidia.com I've checked it with my card model and 64bit architecture, it was all well
[21:16] <sideone> i would like to setup rsyslog with a daily rotation cycle based on incoming port number, can anyone assist?
[21:17] <Lady_swe> histo which is better?
[21:17] <histo> Kishi: do you still have the download?
[21:17] <danielboston26> reborn this is a linux chatroom not a ati hardware chatroom
[21:17] <DJRWolf1> ActionParsnip: anti-malware (virus, spyware)
[21:17] <Kishi> histo: Yup.
[21:17] <histo> Lady_swe: just use chromium
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Kishi: did you try the xorg edgers update PPA instead...?
[21:17] <GunArm> does ipblock gui use moblock under the covers?
[21:17] <reborn> Daniel i think this is general talk?
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> DJRWolf1: linux doesn't have that
[21:17] <danielboston26> reborn but to answer your question no you need the 440 watt powersupply
[21:18] <histo> Kishi: navigate to the directory where the download is and sh NVIDIAxxxxxxx.run or whatever the name of the install file is
[21:18] <reborn> ok
[21:18] <histo> Kishi: use sudo
[21:18] <danielboston26> reborn otherwise it will not work
[21:18] <histo> reborn: join #hardware or someother channel your question doesn't ahve anything to do with ubuntu
[21:18] <Kishi> histo: You mean reinstalling it.
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> DJRWolf1: you can use rkhunter to detect root kits but linux doesn't need AV unless you run a file server with windows clients, or an email server
[21:18] <histo> Kishi: yes you need to reinstall it to rebuild the kernel module that you are missing.
[21:18] <Kishi> histo: And after that?
[21:18] <reborn> ok
[21:18] <Lady_swe> histo,  why not chrome?
[21:19] <histo> Kishi: you will be able to login to X
[21:19] <histo> !better | Lady_swe
[21:19] <Dekker3D> floogy, k1l.. do either of you have any idea what http://paste.ubuntu.com/1159759/ might mean?
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Lady_swe: chrome will be a great way to get flash when adobe quit linux support
[21:19] <histo> Lady_swe: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[21:19] <danielboston26> ActionParsnip: you can get flash in linux
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> danielboston26: not for much longer
[21:20] <danielboston26> Lady_swe: google chrome is a google product
[21:20] <danielboston26> Lady_swe: chromium is a open source project
[21:20] <Kishi> histo: Well, when I was installing it, I've encountered some kind of problem, though I installed it anyway. Maybe that's the thing.
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> danielboston26: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/adobe-adandons-flash-on-linux
[21:21] <histo> Kishi: is that when all your issues started?
[21:21] <danielboston26> Lady_swe: chrome would require you to agree to the google license argeement which violates the gpl
[21:21] <Kishi> histo: Something with runoff as far as I remember
[21:21] <caaaaaaaa> Hello. I'm finding the pid of a process by its command name, with  *ps -C command*  option. It's ok, but .. what if I need only the 4-number-pid as output, instead of all those columns?
[21:21] <Kishi> histo: Or something like that
[21:21] <histo> Kishi: I have to go but i'm sure someone else can help you get your nvidia troubles sorted out.  Just ask your question in one line again and someone will answer
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> Kishi: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:21] <danielboston26> caaaaaaaa:  top
[21:22] <TeamRocket1233c> Back! IDK for how long.
[21:22] <danielboston26> wb TeamRocket1233c
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> caaaaaaaa: pipe it into awk
[21:22] <danielboston26> that would work too
[21:22] <danielboston26> but top will show you all running processes
[21:23] <TeamRocket1233c> I have a feeling the Ubuntu Certified Professional certification no longer exists, if I decide to go for any kind of Linux/UNIX-related cert, it'll be either Oracle or Redhat.
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> caaaaaaaa: kill `ps -C command | awk {'print $2'}`
[21:24] <danielboston26> TeamRocket1233c: who are you talking to?
[21:24] <danielboston26> TeamRocket1233c: do the voices respond?
[21:24] <Kishi> ActionParsnip: Done, what now?
[21:24] <floogy> Dekker3D, It looks like you started x as root. I don't really know what's happened, though...
[21:25] <TeamRocket1233c> danielboston26: I was talking to pretty much anyone who'll listen.
[21:25] <Lady_swe> ok I keep chromium
[21:25] <danielboston26> TeamRocket1233c: this is a support chatroom not a annoucment chat room
[21:25] <Dekker3D> floogy, ... I guess so? My Ubuntu failed to start and "gdm start" didn't work.. so I reverted to that nearly-automatic line that I'd learned ages ago, "sudo startx"
[21:25] <TeamRocket1233c> danielboston26: Sorry.
[21:25] <Dekker3D> Would a reboot fix it?
[21:25] <floogy> Dekker3D,  ** (gnome-user-share:3721): WARNING **: gnome-user-share cannot be started as root for security reasons.
[21:26] <Dekker3D> Ah.
[21:26] <Dekker3D> ... Guess I'm rebooting.
[21:26] <floogy> Home directory /home/dekker3d not ours
[21:26] <danielboston26> TeamRocket1233c: no problem
[21:26] <k1l> Dekker3D: ah, that wount work in ubuntu
[21:26] <TeamRocket1233c> danielboston26: Meant no harm.
[21:26] <Dekker3D> Apparently not :P
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Kishi: reboot to test
[21:27] <k1l> i was thinking about a reason why that should be a root issue
[21:27] <floogy> Dekker3D, never ever use X as root. Also that might have touched some config files and turned them to be config files for root now...
[21:27] <Kishi> ActionParsnip: Kay, will be right back
[21:27] <TeamRocket1233c> smallfoot-: It's still a Linux/UNIX-related cert, which would look cool on the resume.
[21:28] <qmanjr5> I need assistance in getting my sound working. I've done all the basic stuff (checking connection, sound preferences, etc) and everyone seems to check out. However, they're still not working.
[21:28] <TeamRocket1233c> smallfoot-: Debian, if there's such a thing?
[21:28] <TeamRocket1233c> smallfoot-: In addition, Solaris is a decent OS for the purpose it serves.
[21:30] <Dekker3D> It still won't let me log in after a reboot. But at least I didn't have to do some shell stuff before it let me to the login screen this time
[21:30] <Dekker3D> So it's getting closer to normal behaviour again
[21:30] <Dekker3D> Shall I put up a new pastebin?
[21:30] <k1l> Dekker3D: yep
[21:30] <TeamRocket1233c> smallfoot-: Redhat/CentOS pwns anyways, TBH.
[21:31] <TeamRocket1233c> smallfoot-: Ubuntu and Debian also work great for servers or workstations as well.
[21:31] <Dekker3D> k1l, floogy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1159787/
[21:31] <TeamRocket1233c> smallfoot-: I DO NOT see Mint in a Server setting though... XD
[21:31] <k1l> !ot | TeamRocket1233c
[21:32] <TeamRocket1233c> smallfoot-: Wanna take this to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[21:32] <TeamRocket1233c> smallfoot-: I'm heading over there right now.
[21:33] <k1l> Dekker3D: no new entries there
[21:33] <TeamRocket1233c> smallfoot-: Never mind then.
[21:33] <h00k> TeamRocket1233c: take things to a /query, please
[21:33] <Kishi> Eh... didn't work either
[21:33] <Dekker3D> Soo... I take this install out back and put it out of its misery, k1l?
[21:33] <Kishi> Looks like only NVIDIA guys can save me now.
[21:34]  * Dekker3D loads his gun.
[21:34] <Dekker3D> I mean, srsly. I don't really know how to fix this. What do I do? :P
[21:36] <nightwalkerkg> I can't manage to run Flash on Firefox or Chrome.
[21:36] <nightwalkerkg> Chrome crashes and reports : Could not load plugin. And firefox does nothing,there is just blank space.
[21:36] <hellyeah> ubuntu sucks
[21:36] <hellyeah> i gave up
[21:37] <TeamRocket1233c> hellyeah: Ubuntu's a good distro, your experience depends on what spin you use.
[21:37] <TeamRocket1233c> hellyeah: Try one of the other spins and see what happens?
[21:39] <Lady_swe> Why no Ctrl + v not pastes in Terminal? there is another key?
[21:39] <hellyeah> unity i didnt like at all
[21:39] <k1l> Lady_swe: +shift
[21:39] <nightwalkerkg> So there is no help for Flash ?
[21:40] <hellyeah> i dont like cononical guys because they mess up compiz
[21:40] <k1l> !ot | hellyeah
[21:40] <Lady_swe> you mean Ctrl+shift?
[21:40] <k1l> Lady_swe: ctrl+shift+v
[21:40] <nightwalkerkg> I would really like to see the bloody Adobe company burn to the ground. The one thing they made dosen't work right.
[21:40] <TeamRocket1233c> hellyeah: What about building up your own custom spin from a base command-line install.
[21:41] <TeamRocket1233c> hellyeah: You don't really need compiz to have a decent GUI.
[21:41] <Lady_swe> oh than you
[21:41] <k1l> Lady_swe: ctrl+c is another shortcut in terminal so they need to add shift to them
[21:41] <Lady_swe> thank you...
[21:41] <TeamRocket1233c> hellyeah: I don't think Fluxbox or Openbox depends on compiz at all.
[21:41] <ebolla> what is the terminal command to check your network settings?
[21:42] <Dekker3D> Folks? I would love some help with logging back in to my regular, non-guest account..
[21:42] <Dekker3D> Anyone?
[21:42] <k1l> Dekker3D: right now i dont know how to solve your problem. because the .xsession errors was the same
[21:42] <Lady_swe> would some one tell me how can I install Open Office in terminal? sudo apt-get install openoffice ?
[21:43] <ebolla> what is the terminal command to check your network settings?
[21:43] <Dekker3D> Mhm.. I'm hoping someone else might know.. bleh.
[21:43] <k1l> Lady_swe: which ubuntu and you mean openoffice or libreffice?
[21:43] <floogy> Hm, libre office 3.5 gives this old openoffice error, what's that? Error loading BASIC of document file:///usr/lib/openoffice/share/basic/WebWizard/script.xlb: General Error. General Input/output error.
[21:43] <epinky> !doesn'twork | Dekker3D
[21:44] <xangua> Lady_swe: don't you mean LibreOffice¿
[21:44] <epinky> !work | Dekker3D
[21:44] <floogy> Wow a year 2005 error.  http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=28252
[21:44] <Dekker3D> Alright.
[21:44] <Lady_swe> I thought Linux ppl uses open office never heard of libre before
[21:44] <marcus____> hello i know its wrong # but anyone know ppa that got fglrx build against xorg abi 13?
[21:44] <Lady_swe> its ubuntu but ldxe gnome-panel
[21:44] <xangua> Lady_swe: well libreoffice is the new openoffce and already comes in ubuntu
[21:45] <k1l> Lady_swe: ubuntu 12.04?
[21:45] <Dekker3D> My problem is this: I can reach my default Ubuntu login screen just fine.. but when I try to login to my own account, I can fill in a password, my screen goes black, I hear the "login screen starts" bell sound and it's back at the login screen.
[21:45] <Lady_swe> Oh really? open office called libreoffice anymore?
[21:45] <andrewx> Is it possible to use apt-get to download a package to a specific folder? How would I do this PLEASE?
[21:45] <Lady_swe> k1l,  yeah the last version ubuntu
[21:45] <k1l> Lady_swe: then install libre office
[21:45] <Lady_swe> I have libreoffice
[21:46] <epinky> !details | Dekker3D
[21:46] <Dekker3D> Using a different password makes it tell me that's the wrong password, so I'm using the correct password normally.. and I can log in to the guest account. I can also log in to my own account on a tty, but.. not on the gui
[21:46] <Dekker3D> Ubuntu is the latest stable one. 12.04, I'd guess. I regularly upgrade.
[21:47] <Dekker3D> I get the black screen, login bell of death, and then I get booted back to the login screen.
[21:47] <andrewx> I kubuntu 12.04 is a big difference from 10.04LTS...
[21:47] <Dekker3D> I expect it to simply log me in and show me my usual desktop.
[21:47] <andrewx> I know...
[21:47] <Lady_swe> and what is the different about sudo update or upgrade commands?
[21:47] <Dekker3D> Using the default Ubuntu spin, by the way
[21:47] <andrewx> update is for packages
[21:47] <andrewx> upgrade is for OS
[21:48] <Dekker3D> Sooo.. the xsession-errors paste is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1159787/
[21:48] <Dekker3D> What do I do?
[21:49] <epinky> Dekker3D: is nautilus there?
[21:49] <Dekker3D> I have full access to the file manager.. that's nautilus, as far as I know?
[21:49]  * Argento np: fd: File o directory non esistente
[21:49] <Dekker3D> It looks just fine, except I can't access my files and the settings are default.
[21:50] <epinky> Dekker3D: ok, try this work-arounds http://askubuntu.com/questions/129246/after-12-04-upgrade-cant-log-in-although-password-is-correct
[21:50] <Guest37801> hi everyone, i'm having trouble with my wired network, wireless works fine though
[21:51] <Dekker3D> Thanks, epinky
[21:51] <epinky> Dekker3D: np
[21:51] <Guest37801> when i plug in the ethernet cable and let the wired network connect automatically, it won't connect and if i use the ip, mask and gateway from the wireless network, it doesn't work either
[21:51] <epinky> !details | Guest37801
[21:52] <epinky> Guest37801: are you receiving traffic? check cables
[21:52] <Guest37801> yep, it works on my brother's laptop
[21:52] <sleepster_> I am using the latest ubuntu 12.04, and I added virtualization which uses qemu. However, it looks like it is missing roms.. I need openbios-sparc32 which does not come with ubuntu.
[21:53] <epinky> Guest37801: install ethtool wirelessly
[21:53] <Guest37801> can i use apt-get for it?
[21:53] <epinky> Guest37801: whatever just install it
[21:54] <Dekker3D> Grabbing an apt-get update&upgrade while I'm at it.
[21:56] <epinky> Dekker3D: does your NIC/port blink when you plug the cable?
[21:56] <ebolla> nevermind I found the problem
[21:56] <Dekker3D> epinky, I don't really have any internet problems. You may have meant to talk to someone else?
[21:57] <lampe2> hey i got a problem with my laptop. if iam on cable wifi runs super fast if i unplugg the cable the wifi is really bad ??
[21:57] <Dekker3D> Probably Guest37801.
[21:57] <epinky> Dekker3D: sry,
[21:57] <marcus____> dadam i build fglrx against 3.5 kernel and xorg 13
[21:57] <marcus____>  xD
[21:57] <Guest37801> hey sorry, ya, it blinks when i plug in the cable
[21:57] <scott_z> Is there a way to rebuild the download repositories and what i have downloaded? when I do a 'sudo apt-get update' I am getting all kinds of cannot connect and failed to fetch errors. Any help would be great.
[21:57] <epinky> Guest37801: does your NIC/port blink when you plug the cable?
[21:57] <Guest37801> it does blink when the cable is plugged in
[21:58] <epinky> Guest37801: check your config with "sudo ifconfig" is ethX UP?
[21:59] <Dekker3D> scott_z, there should be an apt folder somewhere. /etc/apt/sources.list.d, I think.
[21:59] <scott_z> here is the output. http://pastie.org/4564569
[21:59] <Dekker3D> In there, you should find files for any repositories you've added via apt-add-repository
[21:59] <semitones> Is there anything I can do to 'reset' gconf, or somehow resolve the errors? I'm getting a lot of gconf errors in my .xsession-errors. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1159833/
[21:59] <Dekker3D> (Or apt-repository-add)
[22:00] <Guest37801> well there's an eth0 there, i'm not sure what UP means
[22:00] <Dekker3D> But I guess that's not your problem, scott_z, so what I said is probably not helpful
[22:01] <TeamRocket1233c> G2G.
[22:01] <soliloquy1> I'd like to run Unity on top of my Xubuntu desktop to get a global menu, but I would not like to use the launcher or the rest of Unity. I have successfully run the entire Unity plugin on top of my Xfce desktop (I use compiz anyway), but is there a way to disable all of the other features of Unity *besides* the global menu? Thanks so much.
[22:02] <Dekker3D> epinky, I tried the workaround you linked to, but it hasn't fixed anything yet. Do I need to reboot for it to work?
[22:02] <scott_z> It seems things got mucked up yesterday when i tried to fix files that where not updated but ignored. now thing seem to be really screwed up. I was hoping to try to clear things out and start over.
[22:02] <epinky> scott_z: add http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-add-medibuntu-repository-in-ubuntu-via-terminal-and-gui/
[22:03] <Guest37801> epinky: there's an eth0, but i'm not sure what i should be looking at in there
[22:04] <Mrokii> Hello. Has anybody else experienced crashes with LibreOffice 1.3.6 on Ubuntu? It doesn't even start, crashes shortly after displaying a splash window.
[22:05] <semitones> What would happen if I deleted ~/.gconf ?
[22:08] <soliloquy1> I'd like to run Unity on top of my Xubuntu desktop to get a global menu, but I would not like to use the launcher or the rest of Unity. I have successfully run the entire Unity plugin on top of my Xfce desktop (I use compiz anyway), but is there a way to disable all of the other features of Unity *besides* the global menu? Thanks so much.
[22:09] <soliloquy1> semitones: With unity? Nothing at *all* good. With Gnome 3? Nothing good, but maybe still a sorta usable desktop. All of your settings would go *poof*.
[22:09] <semitones> soliloquy1: i have unity2d -- I think some of the settings in gconf are messed up, so I'm looking to just reset to default settings
[22:11] <rootkit> The MATE desktop is very nice, but it needs properly integrated rather than just installed.
[22:11] <soliloquy1> semitones: I would try to get a default copy of the settings from a fresh user account and overwrite your file rather than delete it, only because I don't know that it regenerates itself automatically and it's a file that you need to have for a lot of things to be functional.
[22:11] <ki4ro_> Mrokii: Mine just came up fine...not sure which version it is
[22:11] <Mrokii> ki4ro_: I just updated today. If it's a green splash window it's 1.3.6
[22:12] <semitones> soliloquy1: good idea
[22:12] <soliloquy1> semitones: That being said, I'm an xfce and gnome 2/mate/compiz-fusion person much more than a unity one and truthfully don't know that much about Unity 3d, and NOTHING about unity 2d, so it's just a strong hunch.
[22:12] <ki4ro_> Mrokii: Okay, mine is still white
[22:13] <TeamRocket1233c> Actually, I'ma head off again, I'll be back later, bye! -wave-
[22:14] <semitones> soliloquy1: alright, taken under advisement. I know that unity2d uses a lot of Qt, but that's the extent of my knowledge
[22:15] <soliloquy1> semitones: yes, and that's truthfully why I don't deal with it; I do GTK2/GTK3 and Compiz/xfwm4, so I just never touch it.
[22:16] <Guest37801> hey, does anyone know what the least memory intensive environment would be that still has a gui?
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest37801: just fluxbox on it's own
[22:16] <semitones> it really depends how minimal you want to go
[22:16] <soliloquy1> semitones: since it uses qt, I also don't know if all the settings would be in gconf? it would make sense to me they might be in some sort of config file instead, but with the way the DE universe is it's entirely possible they all write to gconf, because at this point, nothing at all can suprise me.
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest37801: or flwm if you want super light
[22:17] <Guest37801> thanks
[22:17] <W4sp> flwm? Hmmm. Never heard of.
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> !info flwm
[22:17] <soliloquy1> guest37801: LXDE is also very light weight, openbox is as well; xfce and mate are the middle between those and gnome 3 and unity, and cinnamon is on the more intensive end.
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> W4sp: 156k installed :)
[22:18] <soliloquy1> guest37801: LXDE is also very light weight, openbox is as well; xfce and mate are the middle between those and gnome 3 and unity, and cinnamon is on the more intensive end.
[22:18] <Guest37801> thanks
[22:18] <Guest37801> now it's time to figure out how to install them :)
[22:19] <W4sp> ActionParsnip: Now that's a footprint. ;-) What matters though is process and memory consumption.
[22:19] <diverdude> Is there some tool for ubuntu where i can mark a part of the screen with the mouse to be screendumped into a file? (so that i dont have to screendump and edit the dump in some imagehandling program after)
[22:19] <soliloquy1> guest37801: using Ubuntu software center :).
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> soliloquy1: if you install lxde you get openbox, so you can just install openbox and ditch the lxde bit :)
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> W4sp: true, its fun to play
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: tried kazam?
[22:20] <soliloquy1> actionparsnip: Oooh, really? I didn't realize that. I'm coming back to linux after a break from when KDE 4 was right about to come out, gnome 2 and xfce were the only other full GTK desktops, sooo I'm just a little rusty.
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> Guest37801: or use apt-get
[22:20] <Guest37801> oh okay, sweet thanks, do i restart afterwards is all?
[22:20] <soliloquy1> guest37801: no need, just new x session.
[22:20] <diverdude> ActionParsnip: isn't that for screencast? like recording video?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest37801: ust log off and select the new session
[22:21] <soliloquy1> although it may be easier to restart in reality to get consistency, it shouldn't be needed.
[22:21] <Guest37801> oh cool
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: isn't that what you meant?
[22:21] <soliloquy1> diverdude: gimp's screenshot tool will let you do that.
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: or do you mean an image?
[22:21] <diverdude> ActionParsnip: just an image
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: if you mean an image, install imagemagick and run:  sleep 10;import ~/screenpart.png     and you can select the area using the mouse when the cursor changes
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: the sleep command is to allow you to get the screen ready
[22:24] <SlicedOrange> hi
[22:26] <SlicedOrange> can ayone help me getting error saying ubi partman failed error code 141
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> SlicedOrange: what makes the error happen?
[22:27] <SlicedOrange> when i try to continue to install from live cd
[22:27] <SlicedOrange> after i click continue
[22:28] <SlicedOrange> more so it happens when my usb is plugged in
[22:28] <SlicedOrange> when it is not plugged in it doesnt occur
[22:29] <schultza> is there an irc channel that talks about operating systems in general?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> SlicedOrange: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> schultza: could try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:30] <SlicedOrange> no but ive installed with this live cd before so
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> SlicedOrange: did you try upgrading the ubiquity and gparted packages?
[22:31] <SlicedOrange> tdont thibk so
[22:31] <SlicedOrange> think
[22:31] <soliloquy1> schultza: there's ##linux for all linux, and then rooms for most oses indvidually that I know of. Try using the channel list feature in your IRC client to find what you're looking for.
[22:31] <benji_> Hi, I have ubuntu 10.10 and I would like to upgrade a headless server, however I do not have the package update-manager-core, what should I do?
[22:32] <phoenix_> There were three young ladies of Birmingham,
[22:32] <phoenix_> And this is the scandal concerning 'em.
[22:32] <phoenix_> 	They lifted the frock
[22:32] <phoenix_> 	And tickled the cock
[22:32] <phoenix_> Of the Bishop engaged in confirming 'em.
[22:32] <phoenix_> Now, the Bishop was nobody's fool,
[22:32] <FloodBot1> phoenix_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> benji_: I would clean install with Precise
[22:32] <phoenix_> He'd been to a good public school,
[22:32] <benji_> ActionParsnip, I should be able to run a do-release-ugrade though no?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> benji_: I suggest you grab the alternate ISO for Natty and MD5 test then mount it and you can upgrade that way. You will be doing a LOT Of upgrading. A clean install will get you to Precise in one jump and will be a cleaner OS
[22:34] <phoenix_> I got banned from all the slackware and linux mint servers
[22:35] <benji_> I wish I knew about LTS back then :(
[22:35] <kraetzja> i just did a fresh install, and opted to do the home encryption, and only putting the passphrase in once im not sure I got it. is there a way I can test it?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> kraetzja: try accessing your home data from live CD desktop
[22:36] <kraetzja> nothing i can do from live machine?
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> kraetzja: well, you have decrypted the data, so it is accessible to your user, so no
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> kraetzja: if you have another linux based OS you can test from there
[22:38] <kraetzja> can i alt-ctrl-# to a console, log in as root, and try mounting it?
[22:40] <likewyise> hello my question is still unresolved thanks for any help : http://askubuntu.com/questions/178297/i-want-to-do-a-bridge-between-ubuntu-and-my-ps3
[22:47] <StR> anyone here using firefox and had the problem with superfish plugin?
[22:48] <ljack> Hi, Unity sucks.
[22:49] <soliloquy1> ljack: so use Gnome 3 or Xfce (my favorite) or KDE 4 or LXDE or plain blackbox/fluxbox/lightbox or MATE or Cinnamon. No shortage of choices at the moment - try stuff till you find something comfy!
[22:50] <Jarrydx26> ljack: Why ? cause it works like a phone ? no prob wit that !
[22:50] <soliloquy1> *openbox not lightbox
[22:51] <Kircle> Unity in precise is a good desktop environment.
[22:51] <ljack> soliloquy: Do you like Gnome 2?
[22:51] <ljack> Kircle: How?
[22:52] <Kircle> I can't explain exactly how but I like it better then gnome shell.
[22:52] <zykotick9> !notunity | ljack
[22:53] <archemike> #python
[22:53] <ljack> archemike: TYPE /j #python
[22:53] <archemike> ty
[22:53] <v1c3> hello, i´m running win7 in VmwarePlayer on linux. By moving the cursors betwenn win and linux the complete system stutter for a few seconds. very high CPU load for X.  No Problems with Unity-Mode.
[22:54] <soliloquy1> ljack: I liked it, yes, but it's dead now. For something similar, use XFCE (my favorite), gnome 3 in fallback mode, or MATE, which is a branch of gnome 2 (but i don't think is natively in synaptic).
[22:54] <danielboston26> c1c3 sounds like a driver issue
[22:54] <danielboston26> v1c3*
[22:55] <v1c3> danielboston26,  hm, i´m using catalyst/fglrx and 3d acceleration @host&guest
[22:56]  * zykotick9 wonders why anyone would use vmware (propretary software) when VirtualBox (Oracle contaminated now) and kvm exist?
[22:56] <soliloquy1> ljack: gnome 3 is hugely different from gnome 2, which is dead; I've heard it's very nice, but shares some properties with Unity as well (they're both based on the same stuff).  I personally don't use gnome 3, so it's hard for me to say - I can only really tell you about xfce and unity.
[22:56] <danielboston26> v1c3: have you installed the vmware drivers for windows?
[22:56] <v1c3> danielboston26, yes of couse
[22:57] <ljack> soliloquy1: I like Xfce, do you recommend me using Ubuntu and installing Xfce on top of it, or just using Xubuntu?
[22:57] <v1c3> zykotick9, vmware is faster and the unity function is nicer than seamlessmode in virtualbox
[22:57] <jethrogb> i have a piece of software that consists of one source file and a makefile. i want to make a source package so i can upload this to my launchpad ppa. can someone please point me to a guide that tells me how to do exactly this? i don't want to use bazaar or whatever. i would consider switching to autoconf if said guide would tell me how to set that up
[22:57] <soliloquy1> ljack: just install xfce on top from synaptic and then new x session, run in Xubuntu mode.
[22:58] <ljack> Okey dokey.
[22:58] <soliloquy1> ljack: just be aware that you also have compiz floating around (which is totally fine for xfce, I use the two together), but if your windows come up with no borders, don't panic, just type "xfwm4 --replace" into the run programs dialog.
[22:59] <nightwalkerkg> I still have no luck getin flash to work on Ubuntu. It's not working on firefox,chrome and chromium.
[23:00] <ljack> Alright.
[23:00] <ljack> nightwalkerkg: What have you done so far?
[23:00] <soliloquy1> ljack: if you choose to use compiz or it launches itself, make sure to use ccsm to disable the unity plugin, otherwise it'll try to run unity on top of xfce - if you want to go back to unity, you;ll have to renable it or else things will not work.
[23:00] <v1c3> nightwalkerkg, just install the package?
[23:01] <nightwalkerkg> ljack: I installed one from the official adobe website via USC,then i installed via terminal sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer.
[23:01] <soliloquy1> ljack: for more help, head over to #xfce
[23:01] <nightwalkerkg> And i have tried some plugins that i found on forums. But no luck.
[23:01] <ljack> nightwalkerky: adobe-installer isn't the correct package.
[23:02] <ljack> I think it's something like flash-plugin can't remember.
[23:02] <nightwalkerkg> ljack: Flashplugin-installer
[23:02] <Afflicto-[ubuntu> Hey all -- I'm running ubunu 12.04 LTS and I switched from unity to Gnome 3 -- If I wish to find a theme -- What do I search for? I'm afraid I'll install something that isn't compatible :P Thanks in advance.
[23:02] <v1c3> and there is a second one, mozilla flash or something similar .. one of them shuld work
[23:02] <soliloquy1> ljack: also be aware that Gnome 3 can be quite mac-like, if you're after that - http://skiesofazel.deviantart.com/art/Orta-184118297 is an example
[23:03] <nightwalkerkg> ljack: Is there any other way,i am thinking about trying with Synaptic. I think there was someting like flashplugin-nonfree. But i can't remember.
[23:04] <danielboston26> nightwalkerkg: just download flash plugin from ubuntu software denter
[23:04] <ljack> nightwalkerkg: Please install the adobe-flashplugin package.
[23:04] <ljack> It's in the Ubuntu Software Centre, aptitude etc...
[23:04] <nightwalkerkg> danielboston26: Tried it,not working.
[23:04] <nightwalkerkg> ljack: Just a sec.
[23:04] <danielboston26> nightwalkerkg: search for adobe flash plder
[23:05] <kraetzja> on a fresh install, i feel like im at a mac, right clicking doesn't do anything on things i want it to
[23:05] <kraetzja> like this obnoxious bar on the left, how do i get rid of that
[23:05] <danielboston26> get rid of unity
[23:05] <ljack> kraetzja: I'd just install a new desktop enviroment...
[23:06] <danielboston26> you can install classic gnome or kde
[23:06] <soliloquy1> kraetzja: so use Gnome 3 or Xfce (my favorite) or KDE 4 or LXDE or plain blackbox/fluxbox/lightbox or MATE or Cinnamon. No shortage of choices at the moment - try stuff till you find something comfy!
[23:06] <soliloquy1> *I need my own bot*
[23:06] <kraetzja> <3 me some gnome
[23:06] <soliloquy1> or someone needs to train ubottu to say that
[23:06] <nightwalkerkg> ljack: adobe-flashplugin is already the newest version.
[23:06] <ljack> nightwalkerkg: Restart your browsers.
[23:07] <ljack> Have you tried that?
[23:07] <nightwalkerkg> Yes,about ten times.
[23:07] <nightwalkerkg> I am going to try it this time.
[23:07] <soliloquy1> kraetzja: gnome 2 is now gone - for something like it, try xfce or gnome 3 in fallback mode or MATE, which is a fork of gnome 2.
[23:07] <soliloquy1> ljack: I will be right back, I just need to restart my computer
[23:07] <ljack> I hate Gnome 3...
[23:07] <ljack> Okay.
[23:08] <nightwalkerkg> ljack: Could not load shockwave flash. Same thing.
[23:08] <epinky> bye
[23:08] <soliloquy1> ljack: yeah it's the least configurable thing I've ever seen - even worse than mountain lion os x!
[23:08] <v1c3> nightwalkerkg, go to the ppluginsection of firefox
[23:09] <nightwalkerkg> v1c3: I am on Chrome.
[23:09] <v1c3> and disable "the other" flashplugins, i think you have installed to much flashcrap
[23:09] <ljack> nightwalkkerkg: Maybe the Ubuntu Software Center isn't installing it correctly. I'd install Synaptic, it's a much better package manager and just... works.
[23:09] <zykotick9> nightwalkerkg: i believe adobe-flashplugin requires the partner repo (could be wrong).  ljack don't use aptitude with modern ubuntu's (see "/msg ubottu aptitude")
[23:09] <kantlivelong> does ginn no longer work in 12.04?
[23:10] <nightwalkerkg> v1c3: I think that could be. I have ubuntu restricted extras installed.
[23:10] <ljack> zykotick9: What's the correct package then?
[23:10] <nightwalkerkg> But i did the purge option.
[23:10] <zykotick9> ljack: ? i wouldn't know ;)
[23:10] <v1c3> restricted extras is something other.. should work
[23:10] <nightwalkerkg> Ah,damn it.
[23:10] <nightwalkerkg> How do i uninstall everything that has to do with flash and start all over ?
[23:11] <v1c3> good question
[23:11] <v1c3> search in synaptic for flash..
[23:11] <ljack> Ubuntu Software Center is bad... install Synaptic, search for flash and uninstall all of them.
[23:11] <v1c3> see what is installed and what you can remove
[23:12] <zykotick9> nightwalkerkg: have you installed more then one flash program?  that causes issues!  ActionParsnip has a great 1 liner (that i don't have convient) to check for all/most of the flash programs - once discovered, you remove all but the one you want ;)
[23:12] <xperiamaniac> guys i need some help
[23:12] <ljack> xperiamaniac: Ask your question.
[23:12] <xperiamaniac> i need a link to download ubuntu 11
[23:12] <nightwalkerkg> ljack: Yeah,i hate thing. I usually install everything i need via terminal.
[23:12] <nightwalkerkg> zykotick9: Can you give me that line ?
[23:12] <zykotick9> nightwalkerkg: lol nope...
[23:12] <ljack> nightwalkerkg: Synaptic is very good. Never had a single problem with it.
[23:12] <xperiamaniac> cuz ubuntu 12.04 LTS is lagging a lot
[23:13] <xperiamaniac> i got a 512 mb ram
[23:13] <xperiamaniac> and ubuntu 10 worked like a hot knife on butter
[23:13] <ljack> xperiamaniac: In that case, install a new desktop environment.
[23:13] <v1c3> terminal : apt-cache search *flash*
[23:13] <xperiamaniac> but 12 is very sad
[23:13] <zykotick9> xperiamaniac: i don't think that meet's "ubuntu's" RAM requirement.  see lubuntu for a lighter version.
[23:13] <zykotick9> !requirements
[23:13] <ljack> xperiamaniac: Just install Xfce or LXDE.
[23:14] <xperiamaniac> xfce?
[23:14] <xperiamaniac> whats that?
[23:14] <likewyise> I want to do sudo killall dnsmasq because I am trying to do this but it isn't possible how can I really kill all ipv6 settings because when I type ifconfig it still shows the same ipv6 settings for both eth0 and eth1??????????
[23:14] <ubuntu_> I am wondering does ubuntu or linux based systems only VNC or is there software for remote desktop protocal so I can uses the windows mstsc,exe program / standard built in programs on my windows box to connect to my linux box
[23:14] <zykotick9> xperiamaniac: i was wrong, 512MB is the minimum...
[23:14] <ljack> xperiamaniac: It's a desktop environment that is very fast and looks good. Open your package manager, search then install. It's lightweight too.
[23:14] <xperiamaniac> ubuntu 10 works gr8
[23:15] <ljack> Don't downgrade...
[23:15] <xperiamaniac> i am currently on windows
[23:15] <jagginess> ubuntu_, there's also vnc for windows
[23:15] <zykotick9> xperiamaniac: xfce is similar to gnome2 in both requirements and styles...
[23:15] <xperiamaniac> is there a way i can find it from windows
[23:15] <nightwalkerkg> v1c3: Dafuq ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1159911/
[23:15] <ljack> xperiamaniac: Okay, then just download Xubuntu. http://xubuntu.org
[23:15] <xperiamaniac> hmmm...
[23:15] <nightwalkerkg> I removed everything from the synaptic that has to do with flash.
[23:15] <ljack> It's Ubuntu but a lighter version.
[23:16] <xperiamaniac> oh kool
[23:16] <xperiamaniac> but do i gt the same interface?
[23:16] <jagginess> ubuntu_, the remote desktop in the menu can also do rdp (which is what mstsc.exe does-- MsWindows native remote is called RDP)
[23:16] <xperiamaniac> or is it different?
[23:16] <zykotick9> xperiamaniac: BTW/FYI you could just install xfce4 in ubuntu to try it out!
[23:16] <ljack> And in my opinion, better. :) No you don't get the same interface but it's very easy to use.
[23:16] <ubuntu_> true but I am wondering jagginess if there is remote desktop services /serverside software for linux that would enable me to uses the standard mstscs.exe programs
[23:17] <xperiamaniac> i love the ubuntu 12 interface
[23:17] <zykotick9> lol
[23:17] <jagginess> ubuntu_, mstsc.exe is created by m$.
[23:17] <ubuntu_> VNC and RDP are not the same and are not fully compatible thats why I asked
[23:17] <jagginess> ubuntu_, no.
[23:17] <ljack> xperiamaniac: There's nothing you can do...
[23:17] <soliloquy1> ljack: back
[23:17] <xperiamaniac> and one more question
[23:17] <jagginess> ubuntu_, the client on linux does multiple protocols..
[23:17] <xperiamaniac> i wanna register with this room
[23:17] <ubuntu_> well , just asking because the samba was made compatible with ms netbios shares ,...etc
[23:17] <v1c3> nightwalkerkg, after removing all what has to do with flash install ONE packet
[23:17] <xperiamaniac> how do i do that?
[23:18] <jagginess> ubuntu_, that has nothing to do with remote desktop.
[23:18] <nightwalkerkg> v1c3: Somehow the ads on a website work but not the player. But when i disable flash plugin the ads don't work. o.O
[23:18] <jagginess> ubuntu_, samba is not a windows protocol.. it's a toolset on linux to use smb/cifs
[23:18] <nightwalkerkg> v1c3: Yes,but witch one ? :D
[23:18] <ljack> soliloquy1: xperiamaniac's computer only has 512MB RAM and needs to run a different desktop environment because Unity is too heavy.
[23:18] <ljack> You're the expert.
[23:18] <nightwalkerkg> ljack: How about the unity 2D ?
[23:18] <squid> what are talking about here?
[23:19] <ljack> Might work.
[23:19] <xperiamaniac> or else i will install ubuntu 10
[23:19] <ljack> xperiamaniac: Tried Unity 2D?
[23:19] <v1c3> nightwalkerkg, sry i dont use ubuntu. in my system its called flashplugin
[23:19] <xperiamaniac> it worked gr8 wid dis system
[23:19] <ubuntu_> " ubuntu_, samba is not a windows protocol.. it's a toolset on linux to use smb/cifs" No it comes with the server side so you can host shares on a linux computer and be compatible with windows shares or access from a windows computer
[23:19] <xperiamaniac> nope
[23:19] <xperiamaniac> havent
[23:19] <xperiamaniac> how do i obtain unity 2D
[23:19] <xperiamaniac> :)
[23:19] <nightwalkerkg> I am using it eaven if i have 1GB of ram.
[23:20] <ljack> xperiamaniac: Logout, click on the cog icon then click on Ubuntu 2D, then login again.
[23:20] <jagginess> ubuntu_, the protocol is smb/cifs. it's a toolset
[23:20] <nightwalkerkg> xperiamaniac: Just log out,and click on the gear icon next to the login,and select Unity 2D.
[23:20] <xperiamaniac> i really appriciate u guys helping me out wid dis a BIG THANK YOU GUS :)
[23:20] <jagginess> ubuntu_, anyways i think you want #linux.. you're not asking anything ubuntu
[23:20] <xperiamaniac> GUYS*
[23:21] <ubuntu_> yes it is a tool set but it has a services with it and supports the protocal compatible with what microsoft shares uses
[23:21] <v1c3> Does the xfce filebrowser support samba / network file browsing?
[23:21] <v1c3> thor if i am right
[23:21] <xperiamaniac> how do i register with this room?
[23:21] <soliloquy1> ljack: this sounds like LXDE or straight openbox/blackbox/fluxbox territory. Anything compositing is going to be agonzing, so unity (compiz) xfce and gnome 3 are all issues.
[23:21] <v1c3>  /msg identify password
[23:21] <ljack> xperiamaniac: /msg NickServ REGISTER <password> <e-mail>
[23:22] <nightwalkerkg> xperiamaniac: It' basically a striped down version of Unity. No animations,no fancy stuff.
[23:22] <TeamRocket1233c> Back!
[23:22] <jagginess> ubuntu_, you can use smb:// or cifs:// with konqueror or nautilus. When you see smb:// it doesnt mean you're using samba.
[23:22] <ubuntu_> Also do you need to install VNC to access a linux desktop enviroment or can you uses microsoft RDP protocal to access linux computer
[23:22] <ubuntu_> seem reasonable if you have samba the way it is
[23:23]  * jagginess ignores ubuntu_
[23:23] <v1c3> ubuntu: i dont think rdp woulkd work but not sure
[23:23] <xperiamaniac> awsome
[23:23] <xperiamaniac> thank you :)
[23:24] <nightwalkerkg> Oh,one thing more. I the system info,under Graphic i have Unknown. I remember that i had installed something via terminal and got it to work. But i can't remember what.
[23:24] <soliloquy1> I think that even Unity2D will be too much for 512 memory, to be honest.
[23:24] <xperiamaniac> hmmm in dat case do u suggest going back to ubuntu 10?
[23:24] <ubuntu_> thank you vlc3 thats what I thought . So curious why RDP wouldn't be ported to linux but cifs / smb  would be or at least they must be implemented in both microsoft and linux
[23:24] <v1c3> nightwalkerkg, which graphicscard?
[23:24] <nightwalkerkg> Might be,but you can try. If it' not working as it should,use some other DE.
[23:24] <ljack> xperiamaniac: No, don't downgrade...
[23:25] <soliloquy1> xperiamaniac: that wouldn't fix your problem - the issue here is not what version of ubuntu you're running *and downgrading is a NIGHTMARE*
[23:25] <nightwalkerkg> v1c3: Diamond Ati Radeon 9550 128mb.
[23:25] <ubuntu_> But I always thought microsoft share system was part of the netbios protocal ... though maybe netbios was just for sending computer names
[23:25] <soliloquy1> but rather what DE you're using - unity torks too much on your computer. Unity torks on my laptop, for that matter, and I have a macbook air!
[23:25] <nightwalkerkg> There was this one thing that for checking how the graphic works,and it fixes it.
[23:26] <nightwalkerkg> But my brain stoped working.
[23:26] <xperiamaniac> well i have installed ubuntu inside windows
[23:26] <xperiamaniac> so i guess dat shudnt be a prob will it?
[23:26] <ljack> xperiamaniac: No...
[23:26] <v1c3> nightwalkerkg, i think its to old for the propritary drivers : http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Grafikkarten/ATI/fglrx?highlight=ati
[23:27] <f00bar80> if modifying resolv.conf didn't affect my domain resolving ,, what else could be managing my dns or how to know ?
[23:27] <xperiamaniac> hmmmm dats true...
[23:27] <soliloquy1> wait, xperia maniac - do you run Ubuntu on VMWare or something like it???? If so, that's the issue. If you mean you used wubi for your ubuntu install, that's totally fine.
[23:27] <v1c3> nightwalkerkg, this one should work: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Grafikkarten/ATI/radeon
[23:27] <ubuntu_> maybe I answered my own question xrdp software seems like it
[23:27] <ljack> xperiamaniac: Just load up Ubuntu, click the gear icon, then select Unity 2D and login.
[23:27] <xperiamaniac> yes i used WUBI
[23:27] <nightwalkerkg> v1c3: Yes i know that. But it's not the drivers. It's something like dkpg a command,short like that. I don't know how to call it.
[23:28] <xperiamaniac> i downloaded the iso and wubi put it in one folder and installed it
[23:28] <xperiamaniac> okies
[23:28] <xperiamaniac> will try that right now
[23:28] <soliloquy1> xperiamaniac: that's totally fine
[23:28] <ljack> xperiamaniac: If it still lags, then you need to switch to a lighter desktop environment.
[23:28] <v1c3> f00bar80, networkmanager overwrites your resolv.conf..
[23:28] <xperiamaniac> and if am successful then i shall meet ya guys in 2D :)
[23:29] <ljack> Okay. :)
[23:29] <soliloquy1> okay
[23:29] <xperiamaniac> or else will be back on windows
[23:29] <soliloquy1> ljackL he'll be back in a minute, I'm sure - unity 2d is still too heavy I bet.
[23:29] <nightwalkerkg> v1c3:  I am going to try this.
[23:29] <xperiamaniac> Lets hope for d best :) keepin ma fingers crossed
[23:29] <ljack> Yep...
[23:29] <v1c3> nightwalker: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org-radeon
[23:29] <TeamRocket1233c> xperiamaniac: Switch to a lighter-weight desktop. HIGHLY recommend that.
[23:29] <v1c3> sry i dont know the packagenames :(
[23:30] <ljack> soliloquy1: You think Xfce is best for him?
[23:30] <TeamRocket1233c> xperiamaniac: Either Xfce, LXDE, Openbox+Tint2, or Fluxbox.
[23:30] <nightwalkerkg> v1c3: It's ok. Thanks.
[23:31] <soliloquy1> ljack: no, I think that lxde is what he really needs.
[23:31] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: ljack : What about any of the *boxes?
[23:31] <ljack> He likes the Unity interface.
[23:31] <soliloquy1> teamrock1233c: those would be fine
[23:32] <ljack> No offense to him, but the *boxes are too advance...
[23:32] <soliloquy1> but that's the issue right there
[23:32] <ljack> He's new to Linux.
[23:32] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: Openbox+Tint2 is a great desktop, and actually not that hard to use.
[23:32] <soliloquy1> they require WAY too much config to be usable
[23:32] <ljack> Yep.
[23:32] <soliloquy1> teamrocket1233c: yeah, but he wouldn't know how to start a session with them
[23:33] <soliloquy1> or where to find his apps
[23:33] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: He wont like the interface either.
[23:33] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: Depends on the distro. Crunchbang and Unity (the distro, not the UI) come with Openbox pre-configured.
[23:33] <soliloquy1> yeah, he wants the glitz
[23:33] <nightwalkerkg> v1c3: I remembered. It's glxinfo. I install it with sudo apt-get install mesa-utils. It's working now.
[23:33] <soliloquy1> huh, that's interesting, I didn't know that
[23:33] <ljack> Still, I'd say LXDE.
[23:33] <soliloquy1> the thing is lxde isn't glitzy either.
[23:33] <ljack> I know.
[23:33] <soliloquy1>  and it's a hard one to make glitzy.
[23:34] <ljack> Xfce is quite light too...
[23:34] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: ljack : And it just takes a moment to get used to right-clicking on the desktop with either Openbox or Fluxbox, and you're set. And LXDE = Openbox dressed in fancy clothes basically.
[23:34] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: But, he'd still have to be editing many configs to update the menus for the stuff he's installed, etc...
[23:35] <ljack> And making it how he wants.
[23:35] <soliloquy1> teamrocket1233c: that's why I think lxde is the right thing - he needs the clothes!
[23:35] <coldpizza72i> Im trying to ssh via crossover cable but i can't seem to get it working
[23:35] <coldpizza72i> I first need to give the server a static ip right?
[23:35] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Xfce or Enlightenment?
[23:35] <ljack> Xfce
[23:35] <soliloquy1> teamrocker1233c - for what?
[23:35] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: LXDE's great too, I tried it out in GhostBSD and loved it.
[23:35] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: And Xfce or Enlightenment for his desktop?
[23:36] <soliloquy1> LXDE or enlightenment, *maybe* xfce depending on his processor.
[23:36] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: Unless Enlightenment and Ubuntu <b>do not</b> go well together..
[23:36] <aqwizz> http://lists.refractions.net/pipermail/udig-devel/2008-November/013397.html
[23:36] <aqwizz> what this mean?
[23:36] <soliloquy1> The thing is that with xfce, you can make it look like this: http://i.imgur.com/3ZLDw.jpg
[23:36] <soliloquy1> without much work
[23:37] <soliloquy1> which is I think what he's fafter
[23:37] <v1c3> nightwalkerkg, flash is working now?
[23:37] <nightwalkerkg> v1c3: I am installing it now.
[23:37] <nightwalkerkg> Just a sec
[23:37] <soliloquy1> and I don't have the first clue about enlightment, but I know it requires a LOT of config (like the *boxes) and I've never heard of using it with Ubuntu which makes me suspicious.
[23:38] <ljack> either LXDE or Xfce fullstop
[23:38] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: Also, tried out Fluxbox in Tiny Core, it worked fine out of the box, it operates like basically a refined Openbox.
[23:38] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: JWM is easy to use, it's just ugly in stock form.
[23:38] <nightwalkerkg> v1c3: Nope. Could not load Shockwave flash. Shockwave flash has crashed.
[23:39] <nightwalkerkg> I really,really,really,really hate Adobe now.
[23:39] <marcus___> got question
[23:40] <soliloquy1> teamrocket1233c: again, too much config. He needs a full DE, not just a window manager to build a desktop around; those are great lightweight options for someone who's comfy using a command line and configuring stuff, but it's hard for a newbie
[23:40] <TeamRocket1233c> nightwalkerkg: You can basically have Illustrator and Photoshop without having to pay for it, in the form of GIMP, MyPaint, InkScape, or all three.
[23:40] <ljack> nightwalkerkg: The problem is, there's so many "flash" packages...
[23:40] <ljack> And I have no idea what to install most of the time.
[23:40] <soliloquy1> marcus___: don't ask to ask, just ask.
[23:40] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: LXDE's his best bet.
[23:40] <marcus___> if i build packages for fglrx with  ./ati-installer.sh 8.980 --buildpkg Ubuntu/quantal AND install it via dpkg i need to run aticonfigure or something?
[23:40] <soliloquy1> teamrocket1233c: that's the conclusion I came too as well. Now to convince him to that!
[23:40] <nightwalkerkg> TeamRocket1233c: Hahahahaha. I am having problems with flash. :D
[23:40] <v1c3> nightwalkerkg, are you able to watch youtube-videos?
[23:40] <SmallR2002> soliloquy1: does that count as asking him to ask and not ask to ask? if so i think i just got a headache
[23:40] <nightwalkerkg> But that made me laugh. Thanks man.
[23:41] <nightwalkerkg> v1c3: Only ones that use HTML5 player.
[23:41] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: Not in here anymore.
[23:41] <soliloquy1> smallR2002: metaasking!
[23:41] <SmallR2002> >.<
[23:41] <soliloquy1> teamrocket1233c: yeah I know, he went to install unity 2d ....
[23:41] <soliloquy1> he'll be back soon.
[23:42] <nightwalkerkg> I can't wait for HTML5 to take over and push Flash out of the way. I might start anti-flash campain. xD
[23:42] <soliloquy1> I wonder what flavor of windoze he's using, tho? XP even needs more memory than that.
[23:42] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: I hope it works, Unity's biggest issue is it's a huge resource hog.
[23:42] <soliloquy1> He probably wants the windows 7/8 look, I'd think.
[23:42] <soliloquy1> Teamrocker1233c: I know.
[23:42] <ljack> soliloquy1: No, Win XP can run fine on 512MB.
[23:42] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: I don't think KDE and GNOME Shell are any better as far as memory usage than Unity shell.
[23:42] <SmallR2002> imho, unity's biggest problem is unity
[23:43] <nightwalkerkg> I think that xp can run on 256 mb fine.
[23:43] <ljack> ^ Yep.
[23:43] <soliloquy1> they're all bad in terms of memory
[23:43] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: Especially since KDE has a very Vista/7-esque apperance.
[23:43] <soliloquy1> I didn't realize xp was that compatible.
[23:43] <ljack> XP can even run on 128MB I think..
[23:44] <soliloquy1> the thing with unity is it's compiz - which is fine except a. it's not very configurable b. it eats memory to breakfast
[23:44] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: And XP was good back in its day, but it's 11 years old and pretty much dead.
[23:44] <soliloquy1> yeah, I know
[23:44] <casey> what the hell.
[23:44] <nightwalkerkg> I have a pc that is 8 years old,and when i bought it i had 80GB HDD,256MB Ram,Nvidia MX-4400 64mb graphic card,and i could run xp without a problem,hell i had a best pc in my neighbourhood.
[23:44] <v1c3> xp first version runs ob 256 mb.. but with the servicepacks you should have mire than 1000
[23:44] <ljack> casey: ?
[23:44] <casey> $ ls -l | grep foo
[23:44] <casey> ls: cannot access foo: No such file or directory
[23:44] <casey> ?????????? ? ?     ?              ?            ? foo
[23:44] <theverant_> anyone know about Arduino Unos not working in Ubuntu?
[23:44] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: Vista's only five years old and pretty much on its way out.
[23:45] <casey> apparently ubuntu sets up some sort of encryptfs for /home
[23:45] <casey> and it's malfunctional
[23:45] <casey> any file I try to rm becomes a ?????????? leftover
[23:45] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: Win7 pretty much has a few years left before it dies out.
[23:45] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: Windows 8 wont take over...
[23:45] <casey> well
[23:45] <ljack> I'm sure.
[23:46] <casey> if I try to touch a file, it tells me no space left on device
[23:46] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: It'll only really gain ground in the tablet world, I'm sure.
[23:46] <casey> but then there's a ?????????? entry with that filename.
[23:46] <nightwalkerkg> People we are going offtopic.
[23:46] <casey> that I can't rm
[23:46] <casey> or ls
[23:46] <casey> WTF
[23:46] <nightwalkerkg> Can an upgrade to 12.04 fix the problem with flash ? I am becoming desperate.
[23:46] <theverant_> when I try to write to the Arduino on /dev/ttyACM0 it gets disconnected and reconnects on ACM1, 2, etc
[23:47] <ljack> nightwalkerkg: I'm sure it could.
[23:47] <Farfy> am i in the right place for some very basic help?
[23:47] <theverant_> results are always the same whether I try to write a program to it, or monitor it on the Serial monitor
[23:47] <ljack> Farfy: Yes.
[23:47] <soliloquy1> farfy: yep
[23:47] <nightwalkerkg> ljack: You are sure why ? :D
[23:47] <theverant_> device works fine in OSX
[23:47] <soliloquy1> yeah, I haven't touched windows since about... 2005?
[23:47] <v1c3> nightwalker i dont think so, becaust its probably a settings or package problem..
[23:47] <ljack> nightwalkerkg: Why are you using an outdated version anyway?
[23:47] <theverant_> I remember things working fine in Ubuntu previously, but I'm just using 12.04 new
[23:48] <ljack> nightwalkerkg: Flash does have problems on 10.10 if that's what you're using.
[23:48] <ljack> Well, I had problems in 11.10
[23:48] <ljack> *11.10
[23:48] <casey> nobody has run into this problem?
[23:48] <soliloquy1> heck, I can't install flash now on 12.04
[23:48] <guest___> How can I log into my computer remotely at will?
[23:48] <casey> this is on my web server, and I could really stand to get it fixed.
[23:48] <kantlivelong> anyone here using bumblebee with 12.04 sucessfully?
[23:48] <casey> I seem to be able to copy files out of /home
[23:49] <ljack> casey: Ask in a more advanced channel, like #debian, just don't tell them you're using Ubuntu. :P
[23:49] <Farfy> ive got a really long question should i get someone to pm me or put it all in here?
[23:49] <nightwalkerkg> I am using 11.10. When i try to install 12.04 i get to the point where i am asked to transfer files from Windows-Administrator,and as soon as i click next the screen goes blank.   I use debian too without such headache, this is Ubuntu-specific.
[23:49] <Farfy> extremely new to ubuntu, installed 2 days ago.  i load into the login screen, but only show the right half of the screen, the left half is off screen (can see part of the login box).  after i log in, i see the desktop and the icons in the top right screen, but again only half the screen is visible (rest is black). i switch to terminal and do sudo lightdm restart and im usually able to switch back to a full desktop, after on the desktop
[23:49] <ljack> Okay.
[23:50] <casey> I've never used an encryptfs before, apparently ubuntu does that by default
[23:50] <soliloquy1> casey: I still think that ljack's right - it's probably a config issue regardless of distro; somethings busted in your core packages.
[23:50] <nightwalkerkg> I don't want to upgrade from 11.10 because the goddamn thing need one and a half hour to install. I can install it five times with a cd in that time.
[23:50] <Farfy> switching back and forth from terminal, the terminal will start to overlap the desktop, i can see what im typing into fields on desktop but in the terminal, and vice versa, until i cant switch between the 2 anymore and it just becomes a jumbled mess
[23:50] <casey> all I did was do a fresh install of the o/s on the server, been configuring email and http stuff, and now one day /home is broke.
[23:50] <soliloquy1> casey: and ubuntu's channels aren't equipped for it. Also ##linux is a great place to ask about this stuff.
[23:50] <ljack> Farfy: Major graphics issue, I have no idea sorry.
[23:50] <ljack> Yep, use ##linux.
[23:51] <soliloquy1> farfy: are you using unity?
[23:51] <casey> soliloquy1: why?  This is something that UBUNTU has chosen to do by default, I didn't explicitly set this up or want it.
[23:51] <v1c3> nightwalkerkg, but you are here in irc since an hour :D
[23:51] <Farfy> ya it was pre-installed, i tried switching to unity 2d but no luck w/ a fix
[23:51] <nightwalkerkg> v1c3: Yes i am. :D
[23:51] <nightwalkerkg> xD
[23:51] <casey> I come from a Debian background and pretty much just wanted to give Ubuntu a shot to stay more current with software versions.
[23:52] <soliloquy1> I've never heard of that casey, both of those work fine for me. Still, your best bet is ##linux - tell them about it being ubuntu, there will be people in there who are experts at it who just help with that kind of thing and don't do the ubuntu "where is my printer" kind of help.
[23:52] <ljack> Farfy: Maybe missing drivers...
[23:52] <TeamRocket1233c> casey: I'm sure you could make Debian fairly modern if you work at it enough.
[23:52] <soliloquy1> farfy: was everything okay before unity 2d?
[23:52] <TeamRocket1233c> casey: I mean if you can with CentOS..
[23:52] <casey> is there an ubuntu-server channel?
[23:52] <casey> ugh centos :(
[23:52] <casey> have to use that at work
[23:52] <soliloquy1> #ubuntu-server I think?
[23:53] <casey> ok thanks
[23:53] <ljack> CentOS ftw
[23:53] <TeamRocket1233c> casey: Hey, CentOS is a good distro, it's free Redhat. XD
[23:53] <SmallR2002> for the weak?
[23:53] <TeamRocket1233c> SmallR2002: For the win.
[23:53] <nightwalkerkg> v1c3: I have the .iso file for the 12.04 i am going to try to install with usb flash drive one more time. If it's the same thing,the upgrade it is. :D
[23:53] <ljack> I'm on CentOS right now.
[23:53] <Farfy> no unity 3d never worked, same issue
[23:54] <Farfy> switching to 2d did nothing to improve issues
[23:54] <soliloquy1> ljack: there's no way to get a couple more people to come in to help people, is there? we're getting a bit swamped
[23:54] <Farfy> its an nvidia 7950 btw, should be fine for running either unity 3d or 2d
[23:54] <ljack> soliloquy1: Not possible really...
[23:55] <soliloquy1> farfy: it sounds like a graphics driver issue. Unfortunately, not my area of expertise. I recommend a. going to #debian and pretending that you ubuntu is debian and asking for help that way, or b. going to ##linux and asking for help.
[23:55] <casey> TeamRocket1233c: red hat sucks terribly.
[23:55] <v1c3> nightwalker, but save your files.. and have a look @ linux mint. based on ubuntu but with more propritary things included.. nice for beginners
[23:55] <ljack> Farfy: I'm not 100% sure, but it might be an issue with your graphics driver.
[23:55] <nightwalkerkg> v1c3: I have been using it.
[23:55] <Farfy> kk ty very much, appreciate it :)
[23:55] <ljack> Farfy: I'll help you install the driver.
[23:55] <ljack> Farfy: Stay in here it's okay.
[23:55] <TeamRocket1233c> casey: And Fedora too?
[23:55] <Farfy> ljack: kk ty
[23:55] <nightwalkerkg> And Fedora,and puppy,and jollycloud,and kubuntu,xbuntu,lubuntu,and tons of distros. xD
[23:55] <ljack> Farfy: Can you tell me what graphics card you have?
[23:56] <Farfy> nvidia 7950gt
[23:56] <ljack> Farfy: Please wait a minute or two.
[23:56] <TeamRocket1233c> nightwalkerkg: You're in a Ubuntu chat and dissing all three Ubuntu spins. XD
[23:56] <nightwalkerkg> I just want a good distro so i can start learning and develping for Android.
[23:57] <ljack> Farfy: 64 bit or 32 bit?
[23:57] <nightwalkerkg> TeamRocket1233c: Yeah,f*** me right ? xD
[23:57] <Farfy> ljack: 64 bit
[23:57] <TeamRocket1233c> nightwalkerkg: Would Arch, Gentoo, Funtoo, or LFS work for that?
[23:57] <TeamRocket1233c> nightwalkerkg: LMAO
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> wonder if you can develop android on android...
[23:58] <nightwalkerkg> Dr_Willis it might.
[23:58] <nightwalkerkg> :D
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> asking in #android may be a good idea
[23:58] <ljack> Farfy: Download this file: http://driverscollection.com/?file_cid=424989683589d60e824604789a3
[23:58] <ljack> Then tell me once complete.
[23:58] <ljack> Onto Ubuntu
[23:58] <semitones> What command will tell me the full filesystem path of something?
[23:58] <nightwalkerkg> Nah,i am not asking about android,i just mentioned,i am asking about the Flash that i can't run in ubuntu 11.10.
[23:59] <semitones> Alternatively, which folder I am in
[23:59] <Farfy> ljack: will have to do it on other pc, just a min
[23:59] <ljack> Ok
[23:59] <soliloquy1> semitones: ls
[23:59] <soliloquy1> I think?
[23:59] <TeamRocket1233c> nightwalkerkg: Also, if you go base command-line, you can set Ubuntu up however, you'd just have to work at it a bit.


[00:27] <mup> Bug #1666700 changed: maas allocating new IP to existing MAC/IP pair when old IP is free <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1666700>
[06:42] <kklimonda> if I want to change APT mirror that is used during MAAS deployment. do I have to edit image?
[06:42] <kklimonda> Juju changes sets mirrors itself, but only for the ephemeral system it seems
[06:43] <kklimonda> and the target system defaults to archive.ubuntu.com
[08:23] <eeemil> roaksoax: thanks! :)
[08:35] <ybaumy> hmm <IP_ADDRESS> cannot be reached while commissioning
[08:35] <ybaumy> what is that
[08:35] <ybaumy> 254
[08:55] <ybaumy> ok figured that one out. had to reconfigure the region controller and add the correct ip
[08:55] <ybaumy> so now the commissioning hangs at the apt update with Ign:1 ... messages
[08:58] <ybaumy> ok i just have to wait for 10 minutes until this is progressing? why
[08:59] <ybaumy> for the first time in 2.2 beta i now have a ready node. can now deploy
[08:59] <ybaumy> great just 3 days
[09:17] <ybaumy> how to lower the timeout values for those apt Ign: messages
[09:17] <ybaumy> its like taking forever
[10:07] <ybaumy> Ign:76 failed deployment
[10:07] <ybaumy> ;)
[10:07] <ybaumy> nice
[10:30] <ybaumy> tell is this normal to wait for each Ign message 5 minutes
[10:30] <ybaumy> no wonder that this doesnt finish
[11:05] <mup> Bug #1666852 opened: apt IGN messages timeout very high causes failed commissioning and deployment <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1666852>
[11:27] <ybaumy> its the proxy
[11:27] <ybaumy> somehow the proxy has very high response times or timeout values
[13:20] <mup> Bug #1533555 changed: [doc] MAAS docs do not say how to set the default gateway for a node <docteam> <maasgh> <MAAS:Invalid> <MAAS 1.9:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1533555>
[17:24] <mup> Bug #1666997 opened: MAAS fails to enlist new nodes <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1666997>
[22:48] <mup> Bug #1667141 opened: [FFe] Standing FFe for MAAS 2.2 <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1667141>
[22:51] <mimizone> Hi all. is there a way to limit Discovery to a specific interface?


 But not with these guys.
[01:41] <rick_h_> yea, we're surrounded
[01:41] <rick_h_> 'STFU' and "ooh, VOIP FTW!"
  That took 3.5 years?
[14:03] <ColonelPanic001> >_>
[14:06] <rick_h_> :)
[14:16] <greg-g> g'morn
[14:16] <snap-l> I'm a litle bit pissed
[14:17] <snap-l> I just got told that our web services gateway needs \r\n, not just \n
[14:17] <snap-l> in an expression that gets sent to it
[14:17] <snap-l> and that I should really use wireshark to test this out beforehand
[14:18] <snap-l> Considering a) I'm on a unix machine, and \n is damn fine enough without adding the carriage return, and b) it's https, so wireshark is pretty much useless, that recommendation was tried
[14:19] <rick_h_> heh
[14:23] <Milyardo> wireshark? for what?
[14:23] <snap-l> So, now to tell this group that requiring \r\n is anachronistic
[14:23] <snap-l> Milyardo: To debug the soap request we were sending
[14:49] <snap-l> Apparently they're correct. It's in the RFC and everything
[14:50] <snap-l> so essentially the W3C is anachronistic.
[14:50] <_stink_> huh - when i was sending soap to a horrible windows stack server, it handled \n just fine.
[14:50] <_stink_> and this product was/is horrible.
[14:50] <snap-l> between the request bondaries?
[14:51] <_stink_> i never built a \r\n anywhere.
[14:51] <_stink_> by request boundaries, do you mean something like many requests in one TCP connection or something?
[14:51] <snap-l> considering I downloaded this from another source, I tend to agree.
[14:51] <snap-l> Yeah, attachments
[14:52] <_stink_> ah, ok.  i may have never done that in particular.
[14:53] <snap-l> That's OK, it doesn't seem to work anyway.
[15:16] <greg-g> snap-l: dang RFC's laying down the law
[15:16] <greg-g> (they're the closest thing we have to laws on the web)
[15:18] <snap-l> Well, what I loved was how snotty this person was about it
[15:18] <snap-l> and in the end, it still doesn't work
[15:18] <rick_h_>  well if you were hoping the tech team shoots down unity, not likely: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/04/unity-environment-in-good-shape-on-track-for-ubuntu-1104.ars
[15:18] <snap-l> asked him if he actually ran the code
[15:18] <rick_h_> lol
[15:19] <rick_h_> but of course not, why would you go through all that trouble
[15:19] <snap-l> He came off as a real dick of "if you haven't done something so simple, I can't be bothered to help you"
[15:25] <greg-g> grr
[15:26] <brousch> GRR? coming here for a visit?
[15:27] <greg-g> :)
[15:48] <jrwren> i hate macs.
[15:49] <jrwren> they mouse accel is all fucked and the home and end keys do the wrong thing. this old dog will be windows and linux 4 ever.
[15:49] <rick_h_> + .5
[15:49] <_stink_> haha
[15:49] <jrwren> if 11.10 goes further with teh mac direction and changes the mouse adn home/end, I'm changing distro :)
[15:49] <jrwren> and that is the start of my troll bait for today.
[15:49] <rick_h_> lol, take my window manager, but leave my home/end keys
[15:49] <rick_h_> snap-l sounds too busy to fight back today
[15:50] <rick_h_> but his angst levels might be elevated, could be a good time if he arrives
[15:51] <brousch> jrwren: you have home and end keys?
[15:51] <brousch> and a mouse?
[15:51] <snap-l> Acutally, I agree that home / end on a mac are kind of screwed up
[15:52] <snap-l> was one thing that really didn't make sense.
[15:52] <snap-l> rick_h_: So, neener neener. ;)
[15:52] <rick_h_> lol
[15:52] <rick_h_> booooo, that wasn't entertaining
[15:52] <jrwren> at least the ide I'm in does emacs ctrl-a, ctrl-e, but after 6yrs of home and end, i'm having a rough time adjusting
[15:53] <jrwren> rick_h_: shall i attempt to make snap-l's angst levels rise further?
[15:53] <snap-l> The mac mouse profiles are different than Windows
[15:53] <rick_h_> I'm trying to train myself away from home/end
[15:54] <rick_h_> it's too far away
[15:54] <snap-l> I think they're smoother, not necessarily better.
[15:54] <snap-l> I got away from ctrl-a for home on the command-line because of screen. :)
[15:54] <snap-l> but ctrl-e is a godsend
[15:54] <jrwren> rick_h_: 6-10 yrs ago I was home/end free... i was all emacs & vim and could easily switch between those two env.
[15:54] <jrwren> but i lost that skill :(
[15:55] <jrwren> snap-l: you don't ctrl-a a
[15:55] <jrwren> i type ctrl-a a more than ctrl-a for BOL and so I often get ^A when i'm outside of screen :)
[15:55] <snap-l> heh
[15:56] <rick_h_> I don't use screen as much as I should
[15:56] <rick_h_> so I've not started to work around it's shortcuts
[15:56] <snap-l> I think Byobu's shortcuts are better. They use the Fn keys.
[15:57] <snap-l> so Fn2 is new screen
[15:57] <snap-l> But Ctrl-A still works, though
[15:57] <rick_h_> bah, it messes me up for some reason. Something fails for me, tring to recall what
[15:57] <_stink_> just remap screen's prefix to `.
[15:58] <snap-l> Leave it to GNU utilities to screw up keybindings between programs in the termial
[15:58] <rick_h_> I keep trying byobu but end up back to screen
[16:02] <greg-g> ok, I just tested ctrl+a and ctrl+e in vim, and uh, that was amazing. ctrl-a added 1 to any number I was on and ctrl-e copied whatever was below/above to the line I was one
[16:02] <snap-l> greg-g: Yes, repeat after me: vi is not emacs. ;)
[16:02] <jrwren> i hate byobu shortcuts.
[16:02] <jrwren> i use byobu for the nice bottom bar, but I still use they screen keyboard
[16:02] <jrwren> i want to figure out how to turn off the byobu Fn keys.
[16:02] <greg-g> snap-l: oh, it was emacs they were talking about
[16:02]  * greg-g hangs head
[16:03] <snap-l> Well, bash command line in emacs mode
[16:03] <snap-l> which is more sensical than the vim shortcut mode
[16:03] <snap-l> and this is from a hardcore vim user.
[16:03] <jrwren> greg-g: bash starts in emacs mode by default on most distro. type a line in bash adn try ctrl-a ctrle there.
[16:03] <rick_h_> psh, zsh + vim mode == heaven
[16:03] <snap-l> rick_h_: Yes yes, we know.
[16:03] <jrwren> snap-l: agreed, although I have played with the bash vim mode and decided that it would be very sweet if I were a sysadmin
[16:04] <snap-l> jrwren: Agreed
[16:04] <rick_h_> did I mention zsh > bash?
[16:04] <rick_h_> :)
[16:04] <jrwren> i didn't discover bash vim mode until after I left sysadmin world :(
[16:04] <jrwren> zsh is BARELY > bash
[16:04] <rick_h_> hahahahahahahahahahaha
[16:04] <jrwren> and given bash is more ubiquotous, i'll stick with being able to run my scripts more places.
[16:04] <rick_h_> bash feels like logging into cmd.exe
[16:04] <jrwren> note: I stole that argument from jam for perl > python :)
[16:04] <rick_h_> who said anything about scripts
[16:04] <rick_h_> I mean in just usage
[16:05] <jrwren> i spike scripts at the cmd line all the time.
[16:05] <rick_h_> zsh, type less:do more (I should start an ad campaign)
[16:05] <jrwren> then ctrl-a echo ' and ctrl-e ' > startofnewscript
[16:05] <jrwren> type less? well, I do like ot type less.
[16:05] <rick_h_> 0 == shorter than ctrl-a
[16:05] <rick_h_> $ = shorter than ctrl-e
[16:05] <jrwren> meh, esc 0, you ahve to get into mode.
[16:06] <jrwren> so its 2 keys to 2 keys.
[16:06] <rick_h_> it accepts the same alias I use in vim, jj, it supports D, dw, d4w, etc
[16:06] <jrwren> or 4 keys to 3 keys
[16:06] <jrwren> yes yes, bash vim mode does all that too
[16:06] <snap-l> And now we have our morning flamewar. :)
[16:06] <rick_h_> nope, bash does not allow you to map a custom esc
[16:06] <rick_h_> there we go! flame on!
[16:06] <jrwren> you mean change meta?
[16:06] <jrwren> sure it does.
[16:07] <rick_h_> https://github.com/mitechie/zshrc for the nice lovely list
[16:07] <rick_h_> no, I mean allow me to say "map jj to esc when in insert mode"
[16:07] <jrwren> because its not actually ESC, its meta... and in bash it comes from readline, so just set meta to what you want in .readlinerc.
[16:07] <rick_h_> bindkey "jj" vi-cmd-mode
[16:07] <jrwren> what do you use for your meta?
[16:07] <jrwren> jj?
[16:08] <jrwren> wtf is jj?
[16:08] <rick_h_> meta lol
[16:08] <rick_h_> it's an easier to hit home row combo to change modes
[16:08] <jrwren> like literally typing hte j key twice?
[16:08] <rick_h_> yes, in rapid succession
[16:08] <jrwren> how rapid? I htink I might hate that.
[16:08] <jrwren> "double click the j key"
[16:08] <jrwren> rol
[16:08] <rick_h_> lol
[16:09] <rick_h_> much nicer than the esc key, or ctrl-] and such
[16:09] <rick_h_> so shell matches vim == win
[16:09] <rick_h_> without doing any meta/etc remapping
[16:10] <jrwren> indeed that is sweet.
[16:10] <jrwren> you use teh same thing to toggle modes in vim?
[16:10] <rick_h_> right
[16:10] <rick_h_> " Maps for jj to act as Esc
[16:10] <rick_h_> ino jj <esc>
[16:10] <rick_h_> cno jj <c-c>
[16:11] <_stink_> aren't there some Icelandic words with adjacent 'j's?
[16:11] <_stink_> what if you needed to type them?
[16:11] <rick_h_> yep, thankfully I don't care since I'm american and hate the rest of the world with a fiery passion
[16:12] <rick_h_> I do sometimes need j's and you have to slow down
[16:12] <rick_h_> it has a timeout where if you don't hit a second key, it just types a j
[16:12] <rick_h_> the rest of the time I can switch modes much faster from home row so it's a worthwile tradeoff
[16:15] <Blazeix> I hear the Hajj is nice this time of year.
[16:16] <_stink_> Blazeix++
[16:16] <rick_h_> lol, how long did that take to pull up?
[16:17] <snap-l> http://www.digibarn.com/collections/screenshots/xerox-star-8010/index.html
[16:18] <rick_h_> loading...loading...loading...
[16:18] <_stink_> yeah, dns times out here
[16:18] <snap-l> I think it's getting slashdotted
[16:18] <rick_h_> cache comes up sans images
[16:19] <brousch> came up very quickly for me just now
[16:20] <brousch> hm, all of the links are purple like i'd already visited them
[16:23] <brousch> wow, they had email and non-English letters back then
[16:23] <snap-l> Yeah, pretty radical.
[16:39] <snap-l> Grr, I hate it when I'm wrong
[16:39] <rick_h_> ruh roh
[16:40] <snap-l> Yeah, apparently \r\n is needed
[16:40] <snap-l> and the XML I was sending was messed up
[16:40] <snap-l> It's positional, not a list like I thought it was.
[16:40] <snap-l> blargh
[16:41] <snap-l> On the plus side, I have something working. :)
[17:16] <jrwren> \r\n ?
[17:16] <jrwren> on linux?  :(
[17:16] <tjagoda> Somebody didn't get the memo
[17:18] <rick_h_> http://www.rabbitmq.com/resources/RabbitMQ_Oxford_Geek_Night.pdf
[17:21] <wolfger> what memo?
[17:21]  * wolfger didn't get a memo :-(
[17:23] <TeamXlink> Is running a 300 wat recommended graphics card on a 250wat psu a bad idea?
[17:28] <tjagoda> Yes
[17:28] <tjagoda> The card will perform incorrect math when under-voltage
[17:28] <tjagoda> Strange glitches and etc.
[17:28] <TeamXlink> Alright, sweet thank you!
[17:28] <tjagoda> np
[17:35] <wolfger> uh...
[17:35] <wolfger> wouldn't that actually be under-current?
[17:35] <wolfger> <-- nit-picky
[18:11] <Milyardo> wolfger: V=IR, decreasing voltage decreases current since R is constant
[18:24] <wolfger> Milyardo: P=IE. If a 250W power supply provides 5VDC (or 24VDC, or whatever), the full load amps is constant. If a device requires 350W, it's not asking for higher than normal volts, therefore it must be asking for higher than available amps
[18:25] <wolfger> there is such a thing as a current supply, where the current is constant and the voltage varies, but I've never seen such a thing in a computer. Pinout specify the constant voltage supplied, amps is variable depending on the draw.
[18:40] <ColonelPanic001> for a second I thought I accidently was looking in #hamradio
[18:42] <_stink_> hah
[18:53] <snap-l> http://www.baekdal.com/media/facebook-deemphasizing-twitter-and-brands
[18:53] <snap-l> Bah
[18:54] <snap-l> http://www.baekdal.com/media/facebook-deemphasizing-twitter-and-brands/32F41CE1F5434A37949409815D8978F9AE71601BBCC80153B99E26BDACFD7218
[18:54] <snap-l> Need the hash in order to not get pestered to subscribe
[18:55] <brousch> a multi-network client like hootsuite gets around that problem
[18:56] <snap-l> Frankly, it's yet another example of how Facebook changes the terms of what they'll allow on their site
[18:56] <snap-l> Don't worry, it will get worse.
[18:58] <brousch> i hate facebook
[18:59] <snap-l> I do too. I deleted my account a while ago
[18:59] <snap-l> But, Facebook is moving more and more toward social activity over social presence. It is not enough just to follow somebody. You also have to hug them.
[18:59] <brousch> jrwren: can i send zuckerberg a flaming bag of turds? i know you have opinions about who does and doesn't deserve one
[19:00] <rick_h_> snap-l: http://www.androidcentral.com/top-htc-thunderbolt-accessories for the wife
[19:00] <snap-l> Figures that the second purchase is an expanded battery
[19:01] <snap-l> THis sucker LOVES the battery
[19:03] <rick_h_> yea, I've had the extended battery for a while now and love the difference it makes
[19:03] <rick_h_> though a year in it's starting to wear down a bit
[19:55] <brousch> ah damnitall. we hired a guy to help set up 3d modelling. he is now asking me how to sum a column in excel
[19:56] <jjesse> maybe you shouldn't have hired the guy who showed up w/ the book "3d modeling for dummies"
[19:57] <tjagoda> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_J6GPB38gQ&feature=related
[19:58] <brousch> jjesse: boss's brother
[19:58] <jjesse> awesome
[21:03] <greg-g> snap-l: digging the industrial OMC episode (yes, i'm behind in actually listening to them)
[21:28] <snap-l> greg-g: Cool! Glad you're enjoying it!
[21:55] <greg-g> my boss walks in, asks whether I wear the headphones to listen to music or to make people think I listen to much. I say "both." She then asks what I'm listening to. I should have plugged OMC, but, I don't think she would have understood the term "industrial" :)
[21:57] <_stink_> so what did you say?
[21:58] <snap-l> heh
[21:58] <brousch> bethoven
[22:00] <snap-l> One of my bosses got a taste of Frederik Thorndendal's Special Defects
[22:00] <snap-l> She said it was acid music
[22:04] <greg-g> "internet radio"
[22:05] <snap-l> Bah, that's overbroad
[22:05] <_stink_> cop out
[22:05] <_stink_> "sounds" :P
[22:05] <snap-l> Waveforms that are pleasing to my earholes
[22:05] <_stink_> hah
[22:06] <snap-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5FxKow-LJM <- You need to take the opportunity to expand their mind