[06:56] <dill> can be, but was a regular thing, more like settings in opera.
[06:57] <KM0201> dill: well, just a suggestion
[06:57] <KM0201> i'd delete your current configuration and start over
[06:57] <dill> yes thanx for that...
[06:57] <dill> doind so
[06:57] <dill> doing sorry
[06:58] <tannji> nurow2,   you're running dual monitors, not output to tv?
[06:58] <dill> aa! it worked, it worked... feels like raining!.
[06:58] <dill> should i do the same with skype?
[06:58] <KM0201> yeah, somethign in your "tweaking".... is not agreeing with unity...
[06:58] <KM0201> dill: won't hurt anything w/ skype..
[06:59] <KM0201> you'll just lose any customizations you have.
[06:59] <dill> well since i installed can launch it
[06:59] <dill> what about the tray icon showing opera, i already apply all in whitelist
[06:59] <KM0201> dill: that i have no idea on.
[07:00] <KM0201> unity and the notification area never seemed to work right for me
[07:00] <dill> well now unity wont pop up!!
[07:00] <dill> it's gone
[07:00] <KM0201> ..
[07:01] <KM0201> install lxde, mate, xfce, or God forbid.. KDE... problem solved
[07:01] <dill> mate works good with gnome?
[07:01] <KM0201> mate works flawlessly for me
[07:02] <KM0201> but.. i loved gnome 2.x... so.. i guess thats why like it so much
[07:02] <MonkeyDust> dill  or try fallback-session
[07:02] <dill> is gnome theme?
[07:03] <KM0201> no, gnome is a library
[07:03] <MonkeyDust> dill  no, it looks like gnome2, maybe you want that
[07:03] <nurow2> tannji, i have dual monitors for now. I also will be adding a tv, but first I have to get this right
[07:03] <KM0201> dill: http://imagebin.org/263178
[07:03] <tannji> nurow2,  are you using hdmi output to monitors?
[07:04] <dill> MonkeyDust: more like i want to not have issues with unity, i dont use it that much anyway
[07:04] <nurow2> they are both DVI to HDMI (hdmi on the monitor side)
[07:05] <dill> KM0201: seems nice what about the dock or application bar?
[07:05] <dill> is there any
[07:05] <tannji> nurow2,  take a look at this link, I think it might work. notice it requires Xrandr:    http://newagesoldier.com/linux-hdmi-resize-screen-overscan-fix-ubuntu/
[07:05] <KM0201> nope... applications are launched in the applicationss menu
[07:05] <KM0201> you could make one i guess
[07:06] <tannji> nurow2,  also notice that he forgot to put 2 dashes before  Output and Transform
[07:06] <nurow2> how  do i get xrandr?
[07:07] <KM0201> dill: http://imagebin.org/263180
[07:07] <KM0201> dill: i hav a couple of things that i can launch from a "side panel".. that i have set to transparent... it's just a couple of things i like a click away... it works for me.
[07:07] <tannji> nurow2,  should be in the software center
[07:08] <dill> KM0201: looks nice, thats gnome 3?
[07:08] <KM0201> dill: no, that is Mate desktop.. gnome 3 sucks just about as badly Unity.... Mate... is basically gnome 2
[07:09] <KM0201> here's what i mean by the "side panel" (look on the left...)   it only comes up when i move my cursor all the way to the left of the screen..  http://imagebin.org/263181
[07:09] <dill> KM0201: you are right freaking sucks...
[07:10] <KM0201> dill: yep...
[07:10] <IvelfanFr> Hello
[07:11] <KM0201> i liked Unity... even preached it's simplicity, etc.. then i decided to take a trip down memory lane w/ Mate(which as I said, is essentially Gnome 2., which i used for years)... and then I realized how much i hated unity... and i've used mate since.
[07:11] <KM0201> if you really want dead sexy simplicity/speed... LXDE
[07:11] <SDIS> hi all
[07:11] <Daughain> Whats the best way to learn perl?
[07:11] <nurow2> tannji, is it lxrandr?
[07:12] <tannji> nurow2,  not sure, I didnt have to use it...   one sec
[07:12] <KM0201> unfortunately now, i see Unity as being sort of like Windows 8's interface... someone is trying to make one user interface, for phones, tablets, and PC's... and it just isn't gonna work.
[07:13] <KM0201> i think unity will translate well to phones/tablets/touch screens.
[07:13] <nurow2> I installed lxrandr.. when I do that command I get: warning: output HDMI1 not found; ignoring
[07:13] <gordonjcp> KM0201: it works great on the desktop, too
[07:13] <KM0201> gordonjcp: i guess thats a matter of opinion....
[07:13] <dill> KM0201: i think is pushing a lot mobility and new divices... and seems they are sticking with it.
[07:13] <gordonjcp> KM0201: far better than say Gnome 2, with that big ugly bar at the top and bottom
[07:14] <KM0201> gordonjcp: again, matter of opinion...
[07:14] <gordonjcp> KM0201: generally my opinion is that it doesn't matter *which* desktop you use, they're all much the same
[07:14] <dill> gordonjcp: certanly should evolve a bit more in terms of customization
[07:14] <gordonjcp> dill: as KM0201 says, it's a matter of opinion
[07:14] <KM0201> dill: well, keep mind... it took KDE4 quite a while before it really became usable... i'd even say in the very beginning, it was a complete wreck... now, it's not bad..
[07:15] <MonkeyDust> dill  you can use unity-tweak-tool
[07:15] <gordonjcp> dill: I couldn't care less about customisation, which is one of the reasons I don't like KDE
[07:15]  * KM0201 doesn't like KDE either
[07:15] <gordonjcp> KDE has too many options to fiddle with, to do even the simplest thing like change mouse tracking speed, and if you want to get rid of the irritating animations and visual and sound effects you've got about 50 different things to adjust
[07:16] <KM0201> i don't care about customizing, i just the user interface, to get out of the way... for the most part.
[07:16] <gordonjcp> KM0201: yeah
[07:16] <emite> Hello, I found myself needing to use a 512 MB RAM machine, I've installed Ubuntu server so far, upgrading to latest release right now. Which desktop environment would you recommend for me ? I'm a KDE/Gentoo user.
[07:16] <nardev> hello, i have some strange problem with colors when playing video it's like this http://www.nardev.org/_temp/colors.png and it's same whatever player i use. I'm on squeeze. what could be the problem?
[07:16] <emite> I have no experience with lightweight environments so far.
[07:16] <gordonjcp> KM0201: I basically change the desktop background from the default Ubuntu "bruise and septicaemia colours" and that's about it
[07:16] <dill> MonkeyDust: at some point i try but some conflicts with the system i forgot about it.
[07:16] <gordonjcp> emite: LXDE
[07:16] <KM0201> emite: 512mb of ram?.. thats LXDE land
[07:16] <gordonjcp> emite: actually I suggest you install another half gig of RAM
[07:16] <tannji> nurow2,   not sure...  most of the commentary I am finding references Xrandr....   might ask again here, or on ubuntu support forum
[07:16]  * KM0201 agrees with gordonjcp
[07:17] <gordonjcp> emite: here's a fiver, go and bring it into the 21st century
[07:17] <KM0201> lol
[07:17] <emite> gordonjcp: that's not up to me actually, it's a temporary computer I got at work.
[07:17] <cfhowlett> emite, lxde or xfce4
[07:17] <KM0201> depending on the t ype of ram, should be cheap.
[07:17] <KM0201> xfce is a pig compared to lxde.. it's gotten as bad as unity/kde with its latest releases.
[07:17] <dill> KM0201: this is weird, i closed opera relaunch and happens same issue, seems is a problem with the .opera
[07:17] <wilee-nilee> emite, As far a canonical de lubuntu is the lightest, but there are handfuls of others depends on what you want really.
[07:17] <nurow2> ok... any on else know is lxrandr = xrandr?
[07:18] <emite> canonical de lubuntu?
[07:18] <KM0201> dill: dunno.. i don't use opera much.. ijust installed it to test your little opera.. my guess is, it's arguing with unity for some reason
[07:18]  * gordonjcp -> out
[07:18] <KM0201> because its working flawlessly for me
[07:18] <emite> looks like I will be trying LXDE.
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> emite, canonical is ubutnu de is desktop lubuntu is lxde with a bit more.
[07:18] <nurow2> tannji, either way, xrandr is installed actually. It's just giving me that error: warning: output HDMI1 not found; ignoring
[07:18] <dill> KM0201: seems like that
[07:18] <gordonjcp> emite: at work we basically just ended up bullying the managing director into paying to upgrade the work laptops from 512MB (1GB in my case) to 2.5GB ;-)
[07:19] <dill> is there a way to disable unity
[07:19] <MonkeyDust> dill  http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[07:19] <KM0201> dill: well you'd need another desktop to run in its place
[07:19] <cfhowlett> !nounity|dill,
[07:19] <oal> Anyone else having problems with keyboard shortcuts in 13.04? I have to press ctrl before shift on shortcuts involving ctrl and shift. shift+ctrl doesn't work.
[07:19] <MonkeyDust> dill  simply install a different DE, logout, change login
[07:20] <emite> and a lightweight web browser? is there one bundled with LXDE? I guess Firefox is out of the question?
[07:20]  * KM0201 sttrongly encourages the use of Mate
[07:20] <oal> emite, Midori?
[07:20] <dill> MonkeyDust: nice!! i can see many options now
[07:20] <KM0201> i'm guessing in... about 2yrs... Ubuntu is going to create a "Mate" release (ala Kubuntu, Lubuntu, etc..) and it's motto is gonna be "Sorry about that Unity idea.."
[07:21] <emite> oal: will try it, thanks :)
[07:21] <dill> emite: midori
[07:21] <KM0201> because with Mint putting outa Mate release, and Fedora putting out a Mate release.. it's inevitable that Ubuntu gets on board
[07:21] <dill> KM0201: LOL
[07:22] <ikonia> KM0201: perhaps keep those sort of "smart" comments out of the channel please
[07:22] <KM0201> lol
[07:22] <ikonia> there is no mate release or official packages to date,
[07:22] <emite> so installing lubuntu-desktop should get all the LXDE stuff installed for me, right? Is there a login manager bundled like KDM?
[07:23] <dill> ikonia: lest see what the future brings to unity
[07:23] <ikonia> emite: there is a login manager yes,
[07:23] <cfhowlett> emite, yes there is, but kdm is NOT the login manager, it's the desktop environment ... look and feel
[07:24] <emite> cfhowlett: I'm afraid you are confusing KDE with KDM :)
[07:25] <cfhowlett> emite, D'OH!  you're right, of course.
[07:25] <emite> ok, thanks to all, I'm going to google the rest now. Excited to try that LXDE stuff, heard a bit about it and only good things.
[07:28] <nurow2> hello, can anyone help? both of my monitors are way under-scanned each time I boot the computer. If I turn the overscan all the way up, it fixes it. but once I reboot, the problem is back. After rebooting, if I look at the overscan settings, it shows my overscan all the way up (even though it isn't) if i move it down and back up again, it fixes it until I reboot.
[07:33] <tannji> nurow2,   I think you can fix it with that xrandr, but it will require either modifying or creating a .conf file for  xorg.  you might want to create a second user account to do it from, or boot the computer from usb live key, so that its easy to recover
[07:34] <nurow2> what would i add to the xorg.conf file?
[07:34] <abdel> please I just got q10 but i cant install the softwarre in ubuntu
[07:34] <KM0201> q10?
[07:34] <tannji> I'll give you a link, its a bit over my head, I would have to do it and break it myself to know what to tell you  = )
[07:35] <abdel> any idea on how to install blackberry software in ubuntu,
[07:35] <oal> Anyone on 13.04 here who have a moment to test something? Open the terminal, and press ctrl+shift (in that order), then shift+ctrl. Is there any difference to you?
[07:35] <oal> In my opinion, I can only use ctrl+shift+something if I press ctrl first
[07:35] <oal> Very strange...
[07:36] <KM0201> oal: that doesn't seem strange to me
[07:36] <oal> KM0201, why not?
[07:36] <KM0201> if a keyboard is "control + shift"... to me... "shift+ control" is different
[07:36] <KM0201> sorry, keyboard shortcut..
[07:36] <oal> It has never been before
[07:36] <KM0201> oal: i dunno, id on't use keyboard shortcuts.. but.. like i said.. it makes sense to me
[07:37] <oal> I've always just hammered my pinkey on shift and ctrl, but now I have to make sure I hit ctrl first. Very annoying
[07:37] <wilee-nilee> abdel, I found this, never used a blackberry myself. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/Blackberry
[07:37] <KM0201> just get an android.
[07:37] <KM0201> :)
[07:38] <BillyZane> hi
[07:38] <BillyZane> i'm running ubuntu 13.04. i have a problem with an application that won't close. it's vlc player.
[07:38] <cfhowlett> KM0201, I tend to agree.  I upgraded last month from Moto Razr v3 to Nexus 4 ... impressive.  And BB waited a bit too long to innovate and release a modern device IMO
[07:39] <MonkeyDust> BillyZane  what happens when you try?
[07:39] <BillyZane> i tried "sudo killall vlc" , i tried "sudo killall -9 vlc"
[07:39] <wilee-nilee> abdel, Using "blackberry ubuntu" as search on google has a lot of hits.
[07:39] <cfhowlett> BillyZane, in a terminal run PS to get the process id number of vlc.  Then run kill -9 pid
[07:39] <kohvihoor> BillyZane: try pidof vlc and use that number with kill -9 <pid>
[07:39] <BillyZane> MonkeyDust, the program will not quit nor would it load any movies. as of now, after using the killall commands, the icon is still on the system tray, but it's completely frozen
[07:39] <KM0201> cfhowlett: well, im far from a smartphone expert, just got my first one about 3mo ago... but i love my Android (LG Optimus w/ JB 4.1.2
[07:39] <tannji> nurow2,  my link went poof.  I would try back here tomorrow, earlier when some of the guys with more xserver knowledge are in.  very sorry...  cant freaking find the link I was just reading!
[07:40] <BillyZane> oh ok
[07:40] <bleb> I was trying to get vi to envoke vi instead of vim, and I think I messed up a file but I don't know which one. I think typing vi envokes vim-tiny now, which can't understand parts of my .vimrc. How can I change it back?
[07:40] <KriShaNsin> I use open SSh on my machines here sometimes. Is it true that having Tor installed, can leak my ssh login information? is it the Tor daemon? is there a way to kill Tor while i ssh?
[07:40] <MonkeyDust> BillyZane  type ps -e|grep vlc, read the number, then kill that number
[07:41] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: are you connecting to a TV? just curious.
[07:41] <BillyZane> 3486 ?        00:00:01 vlc <defunct>
[07:41] <MonkeyDust> BillyZane  now type           kill 3486
[07:41] <KM0201> KriShaNsin: i've never heard that... seems unlikelyt o me.. but considering there's usually some unscrupulous individuals using TOR.. it's quite possible i guess
[07:41] <BillyZane> cfhowlett, i tried that command.... bash: kill: pid: arguments must be process or job IDs
[07:42] <BillyZane> MonkeyDust, i typed it in
[07:42] <KM0201> sudo reboot -h now  :)
[07:43] <BillyZane> MonkeyDust, i redid ps -e|grep vlc , the app seems to still be running
[07:43] <nurow2> no problem tannji
[07:43] <mumpitzel> BillyZane: killall vlc
[07:43] <nurow2> KyouReeUs4nfo, I am going to, but I haven't yet. The TV is unrelated to this problem
[07:43] <MonkeyDust> BillyZane  did you kill the nulbe
[07:43] <MonkeyDust> number*
[07:44] <BillyZane> mumpitzel, did not work
[07:44] <BillyZane> MonkeyDust, i pasted exactly what you typed
[07:44] <mumpitzel> !doesn't work
[07:44] <BillyZane> kill 3486
[07:44] <kohvihoor> BillyZane: try kill -9 3486
[07:44] <BillyZane> ok
[07:44] <Baatti> Hi, I'm having issues with my repositories. I believe it is related to my dpkg of multiple architectures. I didn't have issues with my repos before this. Could anyone help?
[07:45] <kohvihoor> Baatti: what issues?
[07:45] <BillyZane> kohvihoor, i did it, i did ps -e|grep vlc afterwards, it's still running
[07:45] <Baatti> I have a red ! inside a Triangle on my status bar up top
[07:45] <ikonia> Baatti: there is only one architecture in a release
[07:45] <Baatti> It's telling me that the Update information is outdated
[07:45] <MonkeyDust> BillyZane  open System Monitor and kill the process there
[07:45] <BillyZane> kill -9 3486             riz@NightViper:~$ ps -e|grep vlc                 3486 ?        00:00:01 vlc <defunct>
[07:45] <ikonia> Baatti: why do you feel it's anything to do with multiple architectures
[07:45] <ikonia> BillyZane: it's zombied
[07:46] <KriShaNsin> hey if I blacklist uvcvideo , will it stay that way until i re edit the blacklist file?
[07:46] <resure> My Ubuntu 12.04.2 installation just freeze that I can't even restart PC using reset button. What logs should I check?
[07:46] <ikonia> resure: that suggests a hardware problem if the power button does nothing
[07:46] <Baatti> ikonia,  I didn't have issues with this before dpkg i386, but now it seems to be not finding the repos of some of the 64bit stuff, just a sec, let me give you an example of output from apt-get update
[07:46] <BillyZane> MonkeyDust, i have 2 system applications, system monitor and task manager, i've used both to try to kill it. it's visible on system monitor, however it's not visible in task manager
[07:47] <resure> ikonia, power button turn it off, reset doesn't work
[07:47] <ikonia> BillyZane: what ar eyou talking about dpkg i386
[07:47] <ikonia> BillyZane: oops, sorr, not you
[07:47] <Baatti> like this: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[07:47] <ikonia> Baatti what are you talking about "before dpkg i386"
[07:47] <Baatti> I did sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[07:47] <ikonia> Baatti: have you been messing with your sources.list
[07:47] <ikonia> Baatti: why did you do that !!!!
[07:47] <ikonia> Baatti: that's just going to screw things up
[07:48] <Baatti> to get a software that only supported i386, I couldn't install it without it. I saw it on the forums
[07:48] <BillyZane> MonkeyDust, it seems we're using some strong kill processes
[07:48] <MonkeyDust> BillyZane  try logout and back in
[07:49] <ikonia> Baatti: you're machine will be in a mess now
[07:49] <BillyZane> i know restarting the computer works, loging out and back in might work, haven't tried
[07:49] <ikonia> Baatti: you sound like you've also been messing with your sources.list
[07:49] <Baatti> uname -a shows me: 3.8.0-25-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP ....... x86-64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:49] <ikonia> Baatti: what does uname matter ?
[07:49] <ikonia> Baatti: we know it's 64bit and you've just added 32bit packages to it
[07:49] <Baatti> hrm, so what are my options to fix this, obviously reinstallation, but what other than that?
[07:50] <ikonia> Baatti: `to be honest, I'd re-install it to get it to a known good state
[07:50] <Baatti> hrm, can I re-install without formatting my drive?
[07:50] <ikonia> Baatti: so ?
[07:51] <ikonia> Baatti: oops, sorry
[07:51] <Baatti> I've disabled all of my added sources
[07:51] <BillyZane> MonkeyDust, well, i'm trying to log out atm
[07:51] <Baatti> these sources that it's pulling from are straight from installation
[07:51] <ikonia> Baatti: well you don't need to format but a re-install will overwrite it, but I would suggest doing a totally clean install
[07:51] <BillyZane> it's taking quite awhile
[07:51] <BillyZane> MonkeyDust, the messed up thing is vlc is the only media player i have that works half decent
[07:51] <ikonia> Baatti: bit late for that really
[07:52] <Baatti> so I can't just simply remove an architecture?
[07:52] <ikonia> Baatti: no
[07:52] <BillyZane> MonkeyDust, this all started after i installed boinc
[07:53] <BillyZane> and possibly caused by steam as well
[07:53] <BillyZane> i installed both at around the same time
[07:53] <BillyZane> i have boinc running at the moment, at %90
[07:54] <Baatti> the forums tell users to dpkg 64-bit architecture to get skype to work...
[07:54] <Baatti> why do the forums suggest this if using multiple architectures ruins a system?
[07:54] <kohvihoor> Baatti: um, doesn't skype multiarch just work?
[07:55] <kohvihoor> also, ubuntu should have multiarch support out of the box
[07:55] <Baatti> not sure, I didn't have an issue installing skype because I have a 64 bit cpu
[07:55] <OerHeks> Baati reply to that forum that the dpkg i386 is wrong, to help others.
[07:55] <kohvihoor> so there should be no need to manually enable an architecture
[07:56] <KM0201> skype 64bit should install the 32bit libraries automatically
[07:56] <KM0201> sorry, installing skype on 64bit..
[07:56] <ikonia> Baatti: why ar eyou blindly following commands on a forum when all the other forums you say tell you to do something different
[07:56] <BillyZane> dude, i can't even log out
[07:56] <ikonia> Baatti: there is official documentation in both the ubuntu website and the skype website on this
[07:56] <kohvihoor> BillyZane: reboot then
[07:56] <Baatti> ikonia it wasn't for skype XD
[07:57] <KM0201> ..
[07:57] <BillyZane> i don't want to have to keep rebooting to fix this recurring problem
[07:57] <ikonia> Baatti: then why are you referencing skype
[07:57] <Baatti> It's a newb mistake. I figured that since my software wouldn't install on a 64-bit, because I saw instructions on adding achitecture for other issues, I'd try it.
[07:57] <ikonia> Baatti: surly just fixing the "real" problem rather than referencing skype should be your concern
[07:57] <KM0201> Baatti: what are you trying to install on 32bit?
[07:57] <KM0201> sorry, on 64bit
[07:57] <Baatti> my 'real' problem is that apt-get update is nto working
[07:57] <b1z24rR0n3> hi all
[07:58] <b1z24rR0n3> anyone still use 11.10 ?
[07:58] <KM0201> b1tbkt: natty is eol
[07:58] <KM0201> !eol > b1tbkt
[07:58] <KM0201> oops.
[07:58] <KM0201> !eol > b1z24rR0n3
[07:59] <KM0201> Baatti: so what do you mean "it's not working"
[07:59] <KM0201> what happens when you type sudo apt-get update
[07:59] <Baatti> when I run sudo apt-get update I get this message: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[08:00] <cfhowlett> Baatti, not good ...
[08:00] <Baatti> yeah what's up with this?
[08:00] <KM0201> !pastebin | Baatti pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:00] <cfhowlett> Baatti, "wrong source list"  says it all
[08:01] <Baatti> perhaps I have multiple sources.list files?
[08:01] <OerHeks> Baatti, you messed up with the "dpkg i386"  command, time to reinstall
[08:01] <KM0201> did you read it?.. you havea malformed entry
[08:01] <KM0201> pastebin your .sources.list and we can figure it out.
[08:01] <ikonia> Baatti: I've told you already !
[08:01] <Baatti> ok, just a sec
[08:01] <ikonia> Baatti: 1.) you have messed up your repos 2.) you have added 32bit architechture to your repos - so it will screw your system
[08:02] <KM0201> hmm, i thought he just instaled the 32bit libraries? the "ia32libs".. or some such?
[08:02] <ikonia> Baatti: the best option is for you to backup your data - re-install ubuntu with the correct arch only, then pay more attention to what's going on after restoring your data
[08:02] <ikonia> KM0201: no, he added 32bit architechture
[08:02] <KM0201> oh well he's screwed
[08:02] <KM0201> he needs to reinstall
[08:02] <KM0201> Baatti: forget it.. you need to reinstall
[08:02] <cfhowlett> Baatti, I've got a link to rebuild the default repos source list ... wait one
[08:03] <dfaaaaa> system restore
[08:03] <Baatti> this is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/5835496/
[08:03] <KM0201> he'll spend more time trying to fix this than just reinstalling
[08:03] <Baatti> no
[08:03] <cfhowlett> Baatti, here tis  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[08:03] <Baatti> I want to learn how to fix it though
[08:03] <Baatti> thank you cfhowlett
[08:03] <AleXa> I cant part the channel, again. Please, somebody kicks me! Using mobile internet, paid per mb
[08:03] <ikonia> Baatti: you need to re-install, that's how you fix it
[08:03] <Baatti> reinstall is weak sauce. Linux is powerful. I want to learn to use the force
[08:03] <KM0201> Baatti: you need to reinstall.. thats how you fix it.
[08:03] <ikonia> Baatti: no - it's not a weak
[08:03] <AleXa> I cant part the channel, again. Please, somebody kicks me! Using mobile internet, paid per mb
[08:03] <KM0201> you screwd it up.. thats why you need to reinstall.
[08:03] <ikonia> Baatti: it's a mature response to a messed up problem
[08:04] <dfaaaaa> so ubuntu doesn't seem like an intelligent os
[08:04] <ikonia> dfaaaaa: well, you're wrong, but ok
[08:04] <Baatti> well what about what cfhowlett  is showing me?
[08:04] <cfhowlett> dfaaaaa, it's as intelligent as its user is
[08:04] <dfaaaaa> hpw can it allow a 32bit app instllaed on a 64bit os ?
[08:04] <ikonia> Baatti: that file re-generates source.list files
[08:04] <ikonia> dfaaaaa: because the user told it to do it, and forced it
[08:04] <KM0201> Baatti: still not going to give you any joy.
[08:04] <KM0201> your problem is not a source list problem
[08:04] <gribouille> hi
[08:05] <Baatti> that's what the error message says though
[08:05] <gribouille> what is the best backup tool?
[08:05] <cfhowlett> gribouille, greetings
[08:05] <BillyZane> man, how can vlc and parole media players both be broken
[08:05] <cfhowlett> !backup
[08:05] <KM0201> BillyZane: graphics card
[08:05] <KM0201> ?
[08:06] <MonkeyDust> gribouille  rsync -a --delete         is fast
[08:06] <BillyZane> KM0201, oh shit
[08:07] <BillyZane> KM0201, you're right. i recently installed a new video driver
[08:07] <Kartagis> http://paste.debian.net/13871/ <--- what does this mean?
[08:07] <dfaaaaa> ikonia , no os should allow such thing from happening it shouw warn but totally refuse any installation of 32bit app
[08:07] <KM0201> BillyZane: ... i figured
[08:07] <Kartagis> !language | BillyZane
[08:07] <dfaaaaa> if it doesn't support 32bit
[08:07] <BillyZane> sorry Kartagis
[08:07] <KM0201> dfaaaaa: its not the 32bit app that caused the problem (i have 32bit apps on my 64bit system.. no prob at all)
[08:07] <BillyZane> KM0201, i recently installed nvidia 304 i believe
[08:07] <KM0201> he installed 32bit ARCHITECTURE
[08:07] <ikonia> dfaaaaa: it does support 32bit - just not in the way the user wanted it to
[08:07] <BillyZane> KM0201, it was done automatically
[08:07] <ikonia> dfaaaaa: again - please stop making comments you do'nt understand
[08:08] <KM0201> BillyZane: well, i'd say thats wher eyou need to start
[08:08] <KM0201> i wish OMV's channel was this lively... lol
[08:08] <gribouille> does someone use bacula?
[08:08] <BillyZane> ok, ty KM0201
[08:15] <Baatti> well I tried the regenerated sources.list but I'm still having the same issue. I guess I'll resort to reinstallation. I officially broke myBuntu :(
[08:15] <cfhowlett> Baatti, nice thing is ... you'll only do it THAT way ONCE ...
[08:15] <Baatti> heh
[08:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> cfhowlett: whazzat? I just came on channel :P
[08:17] <cfhowlett> ntzrmtthihu777, someone broked'd their 'buntu ...
[08:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> cfhowlett: sounds about right XD
[08:17] <Baatti> thanks for the support, everyone!
[08:17] <cfhowlett> Baatti, best of luck and enjoy your fresh install
[08:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> you know what, nevermind. its too damn late for me to give support XD
[08:19] <darkelfjuggalo> Would it be possible to compile from source the package ´webcam-server
[08:19] <blazemore> A moment's silence for our fallen friend http://reader.google.com
[08:19] <darkelfjuggalo> into raring
[08:20] <willybilly0101> yeah, who will follow your RSS and record them for the govt from now?
[08:20] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: what are your current scaling options in CCC?
[08:21] <nurow2> hmmmm
[08:21] <KyouReeUs4nfo> in Catalyst?
[08:22] <KyouReeUs4nfo> you said it works till reboot,correct?
[08:22] <nurow2> it is set to 0%. (all the way to overscan)(
[08:22] <KyouReeUs4nfo> and the objective is to keep it there, correct?
[08:22] <madrat> hey guys
[08:22] <nurow2> correct. If I reboot, the box the underscan returns, even though it will claim it is set to 0%
[08:22] <madrat> I'm trying to install libssl0.9.8 64bit
[08:22] <nurow2> if I move the bar down and back up again, it fixes it
[08:22] <madrat> any help?
[08:23] <KyouReeUs4nfo> did you see if you can save a profile in Catalyst with current settings?
[08:23] <OerHeks> darkelfjuggalo, you can try, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webcam-server/0.50-4
[08:23] <darkelfjuggalo> I want to be able to broadcast my webcam through my webbrowser in Ubuntu 13.04...the only package I can find that allows that is webcam-server, but there is only a lucid compatible package for this....
[08:24] <darkelfjuggalo> Thank you Oerheks
[08:24] <nurow2> I don't see anything about saving or profiles
[08:24] <Kartagis> http://paste.debian.net/13871/ <--- what does this mean?
[08:25] <OerHeks> darkelfjuggalo, else you can try this recent post > http://www.hackourlife.com/diy-webcam-server-or-home-security-monitoring-setup-using-beagleboard-xm-running-ubuntu/
[08:25] <cfhowlett> darkelfjuggalo, as a live stream?  or what?
[08:26] <darkelfjuggalo> Yes, cfhowlett, as a live stream
[08:26] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/pages/crossfirex-app-profiles.aspx
[08:27] <madrat> I'm trying to install libssl0.9.8 64bit
[08:27] <somsip> madrat: isn't release above 1.0 now?
[08:27] <nurow2> hmmm, this is windows?
[08:27] <somsip> !info openssl
[08:27] <madrat> somsip, huh?
[08:28] <rsvp> !info mp3splt-gtk
[08:28] <KyouReeUs4nfo> yes, it is, my bad
[08:28] <somsip> madrat: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[08:28] <KyouReeUs4nfo> looking
[08:28] <madrat> 12.04
[08:28] <somsip> !info openssl precise
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> !info libssl0.9.8 raring
[08:28] <somsip> ActionParsnip: ah - I thought it was part of openssl - my bad
[08:29] <rsvp> !info jpilot
[08:29] <Darkyyy> Guys i really need your help installing ubuntu
[08:29] <madrat> what does this mean then?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> madrat: sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.8
[08:29] <Darkyyy> for some reason my mobo dosent let me boot from usb and my cdrom is false
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Darkyyy: what are you having issue with
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Darkyyy: do you have a floppy drive?
[08:29] <Daughain> Is there some thing like jpilot for webos?
[08:30] <Darkyyy> no
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: webos isnt supported here
[08:30] <Darkyyy> boot is just stalling whenever i try to boot from usb flash
[08:30] <k1l> Daughain: better ask webos support for webos related questions. to find the channels use alis
[08:30] <MonkeyDust> Darkyyy  is the iso ok, did you md5 check it?
[08:30] <Darkyyy> tried the flash drive using vmware player and it does work
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Darkyyy: then you can either grab a cd drive from another PC, or pull out the drive and put it in an OK system, install it then transfer it back to the system
[08:30] <Daughain> ActionParsnip, I k now, I saw the post on jpilot, which was for the old palm OS, so I asked.
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Darkyyy: or setup a PXE server
[08:31] <nurow2> KyouReeUs4nfo, thanks for all of the help, but i need to go to sleep now
[08:31] <darkelfjuggalo> to the person that sent me to hackourlife...I like what this offers but Iḿ unsure itś what i am looking for
[08:31] <nurow2> if you have any other ideas, could you PM them?
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: this is Ubuntu support only, try a palm based channel
[08:31] <nurow2> I'll leave my computer on
[08:31] <madrat> ActionParsnip, that only gives me the i386 one
[08:31] <k1l> !alis | Daughain
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> madrat: your OS is multiarch, does it not work?
[08:31] <Daughain> I'm in the webos channel.
[08:31] <zipy> .
[08:31] <KyouReeUs4nfo> ok
[08:32] <Darkyyy> can i install ubuntu after wubi
[08:32] <madrat> it does not want to install the 64bit one
[08:32] <Daughain> And wow.
[08:32] <ikonia> Darkyyy: wubi installs ubuntu, it's a container for ubuntu (paraphrasing)
[08:32] <MonkeyDust> Darkyyy  don't, wubi is not a real installation
[08:32] <Darkyyy> i know
[08:32] <Darkyyy> but maybe after i install wubi maybe i can turn it into a full installation
[08:33] <Darkyyy> like installing it thru it
[08:33] <k1l> Darkyyy: no
[08:33] <ikonia> Darkyyy: not really very easy
[08:33] <k1l> that is not possible
[08:33] <theadmin> Darkyyy: Not worth trying...
[08:33] <Darkyyy> actually i'm PC tech but i'm too lazy to replace the dvd rom lol
[08:33] <gribouille> does someone use rsnapshot?
[08:34] <varunendra> Darkyyy, use live usb ??
[08:34] <stefano> hello
[08:34] <Darkyyy> my mobo cant boot from any usb
[08:34] <stefano> I'm trying to install firmaware-b43-installer for my b43 wireless
[08:34] <Darkyyy> dunno what happend
[08:34] <stefano> but it return error
[08:35] <theadmin> Darkyyy: Big deal, use plop :P
[08:35] <blazemore> Darkyyy: I really don't recommend Wubi; If you want to take Ubuntu for a spin use a Live USB with persistance, or just play in a VM for a while
[08:35] <Darkyyy> tried using SARDU
[08:35] <blazemore> Is there a list of !commands that are available?
[08:35] <stefano> lwfinger.com is unreachable.... what can I do?
[08:35] <k1l> Darkyyy: try the bios settings and try another usb port
[08:35] <blazemore> in this channel I mean (ubottu)
[08:35] <Darkyyy> i want ubuntu 64 fully installed just cant get to it
[08:35] <theadmin> Darkyyy: http://download.plop.at/files/bootmngr/plpbt-5.0.14.zip - run "install_to_bootmenu.bat" (or something) as administrator, load it, then it'll let you boot from USB
[08:36] <blazemore> theadmin: I'm going to remember that one, seems useful
[08:36] <theadmin> blazemore: Some call it a "BIOS extender", lets you boot from any partition/drive quite easily, or chainload another bootloader
[08:36] <varunendra> Darkyyy, there is also the option of network install, although I never tried it myself :P
[08:37] <Darkyyy> i have plop
[08:38] <theadmin> varunendra: Well, network install would still need a CD/USB to boot that from
[08:38] <theadmin> varunendra: (or maybe PXE-boot but that's overly complicated, would need a second machine too)
[08:38] <stefano> any idea for firmware-b43-installer failing contacting lwfinger.com?
[08:39] <blazemore> Oh Gods :D :D
[08:39] <varunendra> theadmin, the netboot intro says - "if you have an old machine with a non-bootable CD-ROM..."
[08:39] <theadmin> varunendra: heh, good point I guess -- you'd still need a second one to load that image from.
[08:40] <varunendra> but yeah, getting a cd/dvd is much better & easier :D
[08:40] <stefano> ok, it works now :-)
[08:41] <blazemore> stefano: Must have just been a small intermittent network problem on your end, or that site
[08:42] <varunendra> theadmin, do you know that slax iso has ready to use pxe mode? I wonder if the image can be replaced in it to take advantage of it. :)
[08:43] <theadmin> varunendra: Ubuntu provides a mini.iso which will run the netinstaller, too... But you still need to burn the ISO somewhere :/
[08:43] <varunendra> :P
[08:44] <Darkyyy> irc is actually ABC
[08:45] <Darkyyy> All Brains Connected :D
[08:45] <varunendra> Darkyyy, sometimes I feel A-Z ;)
[08:45] <varunendra> okay, p,q or something, not Z
[08:46] <Darkyyy> i feel like ZZzzzzZZZzzz...
[08:46] <shinao1> Hi I've been trying to setup 13.04 as an L2TP/IPSec VPN Client but it doesn't work... does 13.04 support IPSec/L2TP tunnelling? I keep getting this error: ERROR: asynchronous network error report on eth0 (sport=4500) for message to <IP_Address> port 18547, complainant <IP_Address>: Connection refused [errno 111, origin ICMP type 3 code 3 (not authenticated)]
[08:47] <shinao1> And it works from my cyanomod tablet!
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: did you obfuscate the ip address or did you literally type '<ip address>'?
[08:49] <shinao1> ActionParsnip: obfuscation
[08:49] <blazemore> shinao1: "I think that 'not authenticated' is the relevant part of that error message - clearly some sort of handshake is ocurring
[08:49] <shinao1> Oh it is authenticated AFAIK
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: just checking
[08:50] <shinao1> Thanks
[08:50] <shinao1> I'm following this guide here: http://wiki.l2tpipsecvpn.tuxfamily.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: http://forum.ipfire.org/index.php?topic=2285.0
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: http://www.ipcops.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=17069
[08:51] <shinao1> Thanks.. checking them out.. what's in em?
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: http://code.google.com/p/vigor2130/issues/detail?id=30
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: web pages....
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: ;)
[08:53] <shinao1> Hmm.. not ubuntu relevant as far as I can see.. I built the VPN server off of a RHEL box, and I have successful connects from an Android tablet, MacOSX and Fedora
[08:54] <shinao1> Only 13.04 is giving me problems and I read somewhere that its possible that IPSec isnt in the kernel anymore
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: try a Precise liveCD to test
[08:54] <shinao1> Ubuntu kernel that is
[08:54] <shinao1> Unfortunately once I upgrade I dont go back
[08:54] <shinao1> :)
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: reread what I wrote....liveCD...?
[08:55] <shinao1> I read it clearly
[08:55] <shinao1> I guess I'll be switching to Fedora then... a pity
[08:56] <shinao1> I really like ubuntu
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: so if you test the live CD, needing no sort of 'going back', if it works there then it is a bug
[08:56] <shinao1> I dont have the kit, and I live in a bandwidth poor area.
[08:56] <cfhowlett> shinao1, torrent ...
[08:56] <shinao1> Have to go and find it
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: not got an old CD around, or a pal with one or more bandwidth
[08:57] <shinao1> off of someone else's connection
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> shinao1: could use an SSH tunnel instead :)
[08:57] <shinao1> Yeah I have PCI-DSS exceptions with that
[09:01] <emite> damn, you guys recommended midori for LXDE, but so many webpages render wrong in it...
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> emite: who does....i don't
[09:01] <emite> looks like I'll be stuck with firefox for the time being.
[09:01] <emite> well I was asking for a lightweight webbrowser for LXDE
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> emite: arora is light
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> emite: iceweasel
[09:01] <blazemore> emite: Dillo is crazy light but no features to speak of
[09:15] <exported> hi can anyone explain how this stuff works lol how could i get to the channel #linuxmint-chat or #linuxmint-help ??
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> !mint
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> exported: you will need to connect to irc.spotchat.org instead of irc.freenode.net
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> exported: you can then connect to the channel
[09:16] <exported> ahh thank you ActionParsnip! :) thank you very much
[09:16] <mndo> hi, i am trying to adding access to a host  folder on an guest I am getting this error when trying to start the guest: Virtio-9p Failed to initialize fs-driver with id:fsdev-fs0 and export path: <my host folder>
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> mndo: i'd ask in #vbox too
[09:17] <FreeNix> hi
[09:17] <mndo> I am using ubuntu 12.04.2 as host and kvm+libvirt for virtualization
[09:17] <FreeNix> I have downloaded an iso image and im trying to create a usb live stick with it...how do i do this?
[09:18] <cfhowlett> FreeNix, unetbootin or ubuntu startupdiskcreator will do the job
[09:18] <llutz> FreeNix: or cat, dd
[09:18] <blazemore> FreeNix: If you're on Windows, my favourite tool is Linux Live USB http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[09:18] <FreeNix> im on ubuntu
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> FreeNix: unetbootin
[09:19] <blazemore> FreeNix: There's lots of info on this wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[09:19] <cfhowlett> FreeNix, system>startupdiskcreator
[09:19] <varunendra> FreeNix, then use the inbuilt startupDiskCreator - the best for you
[09:20] <FreeNix> ta
[09:20] <Daughain> How can I get a java program to launch on boot in 12.04
[09:21] <cfhowlett> !java|Daughain,
[09:22] <Daughain> cfhowlett, I have it running, I just need to know how to get it to load and run on boot without me touching the machine.
[09:22] <GameMasterSahil> Hello
[09:22] <cfhowlett> GameMasterSahil, greetings
[09:23] <varunendra> Daughain, how do you currently run it? I guess add the same command to /etc/rc.local ??
[09:23] <GameMasterSahil> My problem is when I tries to run my file using /.Filename, it gives me an error that is 'No such file or directory'
[09:23] <nweb546786754> Hello. I am using Linux Mint 15. Because of kernel bugs I removed old kernels from my /boot partition and installed 3.10. Now I am getting "kernel panic" error after reboot, it says that it is unable to mount root. My /home is also encrypted, so currently I am using Ubuntu from a USB key. Please help!
[09:24] <bordism> Hi all
[09:24] <GameMasterSahil> I am using Ubuntu Linux
[09:24] <Daughain> varunendra, I click on it in nautilus.
[09:24] <blazemore> nweb546786754: THis is an Ubuntu support channel
[09:24] <nweb546786754> I know\
[09:24] <blazemore> nweb546786754: You shouldn't have removed the old ones before making sure the new one worked
[09:24] <cfhowlett> !mint|nweb546786754,
[09:24] <nweb546786754> blazemore: but Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu]
[09:24] <blazemore> nweb546786754: :o is it?
[09:24] <bordism> I want to install Ubuntu on my ASUS N61J. I have an Ubuntu CD, trouble is, I don't know how to boot from CD? Any clues? I've tried pressing ESC, F8, F12, DEL on boot but it doesn't work ....
[09:25] <nweb546786754> I did not have enough space on the partition, blazemore
[09:25] <blazemore> bordism: Do you know how to enter the BIOS?
[09:25] <cfhowlett> nweb546786754, true and it's not supported HERE.  they have their own support channel.
[09:25] <bordism> blazemore: nope, that's thr trouble
[09:25] <DJones> nweb546786754: Mint has its own support channels, please see the information that Ubottu just gve you
[09:25] <cfhowlett> bordism, look up the specific info on ASUS's site or in their user documentation
[09:25] <blazemore> bordism: It'll say in the manual somewhere
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> bordism: press ESC when the ASUS splash screen shows and read
[09:26] <nweb546786754> okay, thx
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> bordism: or disable quiet boot in bios
[09:26] <blazemore> nweb546786754: My advice, though, would be to boot from a liveCD, back-up your data and reinstall. Nothing quite like a freshly installed Mint 15 anyway :)
[09:26] <GameMasterSahil> Hello, I am using Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS x86, when I tries to run my file in Terminal Window using /.Filename, it gives me an error that is 'No such file or directory', I used cd command before it.
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> bordism: try ENTER as well: http://support.asus.com/Troubleshooting/detail.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=N61Jq&p=3&s=217&os=&hashedid=ZfpnPRZ5UxVOtrHJ&no=1775
[09:27] <GameMasterSahil> How I can solve it?
[09:27] <blazemore> GameMasterSahil: Does the file exist?
[09:27] <cfhowlett> GameMasterSahil, one: 10.04 is end of life and no longer supported... TWO: see one
[09:27] <GameMasterSahil> Yes Blazemore
[09:27] <bordism> ActionParsnip: ok
[09:27] <llutz> GameMasterSahil: ./filename
[09:27] <blazemore> GameMasterSahil: Does it show up when you type "ls" before trying to execute it with ./FileName ?
[09:27] <GameMasterSahil> Yes
[09:27] <nweb546786754> blazemore: thats what I want to avoid, though... my home is encrypted so I dont know ho to access , my data anyway
[09:27] <GameMasterSahil> It shows with /ls
[09:27] <blazemore> GameMasterSahil: Don't forget in Linux, filenames are case-sensitive, that is, FileName is not the same as filename
[09:27] <GameMasterSahil> I know
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> bordism: I dont own the system, i just searched the web....
[09:28] <blazemore> GameMasterSahil: Also, if you're trying to execute it as a program, you need to run "chmod +x filename" first
[09:28] <GameMasterSahil> I used that
[09:28] <llutz> GameMasterSahil: "file filename" says what
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: is the OS a desktop based OS? with mouse pointers and nautilus file browser?
[09:28] <GameMasterSahil> VCMPServer: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped
[09:28] <GameMasterSahil> No it's not desktop based
[09:29] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nweb546786754: Is your /home on a different partition?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: so where does 'terminal window' come from....
[09:29] <GameMasterSahil> No  Kyou it's not
[09:29] <histo> ActionParsnip: gnome-terminal
[09:29] <SDIS> a
[09:29] <blazemore> GameMasterSahil: Is it possible the program is actually executing sucesfully, but it's the program itsself which is giving you the "No such file" error? What is the nature of the program anyway?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> histo: yes, in a desktop.....on lucid.....
[09:29] <histo> ActionParsnip: lxterminal
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: what is the output of: uname -a
[09:29] <GameMasterSahil> No
[09:30] <GameMasterSahil> Linux mjcj63g57g 2.6.32-22-server #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 3 20:38:33 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:30] <KyouReeUs4nfo> I would back it up then (sudo ecryptfs-recover-private)!
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: the binary is 32bit and your server is 64bit
[09:30] <GameMasterSahil> No it's 32 only
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: you will need the 64bit version
[09:30] <GameMasterSahil> Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS x86
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: or 32bit server
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: or a chroot
[09:30] <GameMasterSahil> Binary too 32 bit
[09:30] <blazemore> GameMasterSahil: Are you saying uname -a is *lying* to you?
[09:31] <nweb546786754> KyouReeUs4nfo: I am not sure
[09:31] <GameMasterSahil> IDK what but it's 32 bit
[09:31] <blazemore> GameMasterSahil: it says in uname -a "x86_64"
[09:31] <llutz> GameMasterSahil: x86_64  is 64Bit, stop trolling
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: yes but your OS is 64bit, so it won't run
[09:31] <GameMasterSahil> LOL
[09:31] <GameMasterSahil> Yes it is
[09:31] <GameMasterSahil> Saying
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: if you use Precise, it is multiarch and will run
[09:32] <GameMasterSahil> But my Host says 32 bit
[09:32] <GameMasterSahil> What ActionParsnip?
[09:32] <blazemore> What do you mean bu your host?
[09:32] <GameMasterSahil> Nothing
[09:33] <blazemore> Ignored
[09:33] <GameMasterSahil> Nah
[09:33] <GameMasterSahil> I said wrong thing
[09:33] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nweb546786754: sudo fdisk -l will show you your partitions and df -h will show if your home is on a separate partition
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: your uname -a    states x86_64 which means it is a 64bit kernel
[09:33] <bordism> lol, I found the problem -- the keyboard is fucked
[09:33] <histo> !language | bordism
[09:33] <GameMasterSahil> Lol
[09:33] <bordism> works using an external keyboard
[09:33] <GameMasterSahil> ActionParsnip
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: your file command outputted 'ELF 32-bit' so is 32bit
[09:34] <GameMasterSahil> It is
[09:34] <GameMasterSahil> So how I can run it
[09:34] <bordism> ok later girls
[09:34] <SDIS> run what?
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: you can't, your kernel is 64bit
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: to run it you need a 32bit server OS
[09:35] <GameMasterSahil> Hmm
[09:35] <GameMasterSahil> Ok
[09:35] <GameMasterSahil> But will it run succesfully in it
[09:35] <llutz> GameMasterSahil: "lsb_release -sc" output?
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: no idea, but its what it needs
[09:35] <GameMasterSahil> lucid
[09:35] <SDIS> precise
[09:36] <GameMasterSahil> lsb_release -sc it's output is 'lucid'
[09:36] <llutz> GameMasterSahil: no multiarch then, ia32libs maybe
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> GameMasterSahil: install 32bit Precise and install the app, it will work
[09:37] <GameMasterSahil> Ok, let me try
[09:39] <MickS> "you need 32-bit os" ... is this for real or trolling?
[09:39] <nweb546786754> KyouReeUs4nfo: http://pastebin.com/AaCmiZH7 -- here is the output - I dont know what it means though :/
[09:40] <GameMasterSahil> real
[09:40] <DJones> nweb546786754: As you were told earlier, Mint is not supported in this channel
[09:40] <sam323> hi im trying to get imagewriter under ubuntu to work, it keeps asking for my password i put it in and it says wrong password
[09:41] <MickS> GameMasterSahil: you need 32-bit libs, not a 32-bit os. 32-bit programs can run just fine on 64-bit os. No need to reinstall your server...
[09:42] <zipy> sam113101, r u logged in with a user that is in sudo list?
[09:42] <GameMasterSahil> So how I can change to 32-bit libs?
[09:42] <MickS> the file not found is most likely a library it wants to include which isn't installed
[09:42] <MickS> see which libs the program needs with:  ldd filename
[09:42] <sam323> no idea
[09:43] <SDIS> what is the best way to learn  "Linux Shell"
[09:43] <cfhowlett__> SDIS, see "linux from scratch"
[09:43] <zipy> sam323, but u got ur root password?
[09:43] <nweb546786754> DJones: right, I know
[09:44] <sam323> yes
[09:44] <zipy> hm then try to run from terminal
[09:44] <zipy> su
[09:44] <k1l> SDIS: just use it and learn what you need
[09:44] <zipy> enter root pw
[09:45] <zipy> then start imagewriter in terminal
[09:45] <sam323> what do i type in terminal
[09:45] <zipy> su
[09:45] <sam323> ok
[09:45] <k1l> !sudo | sam323 zipy
[09:45] <k1l> !root
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> zipy: there is no root password in ubuntu, use:   sudo -i
[09:45] <GameMasterSahil> Micks: Wait a second MickS I am restarting my system.
[09:45] <zipy> he tried already
[09:45] <zipy> i think the guy askes for pw of the active user who is not in sudo list
[09:45] <zipy> guy = gui lol
[09:46] <sam323> sam@sam-System-Product-Name:~$ su
[09:46] <sam323> Password:
[09:46] <sam323> su: Authentication failure
[09:46] <MickS> grin @ root explanation ;-)
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> zipy: then he's going to need to su to a user who can, then run:  sudo -i
[09:46] <k1l> to change to root is not the ubuntu way.
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> sam323: there is no root password, what zipy is advising wont work
[09:46] <sam323> ok
[09:46] <blazemore> sam323: If you're dead-set on opening a root shell you can do "sudo -s"
[09:47] <zipy> thats the same ^^
[09:47] <sam323> root@sam-System-Product-Name:~#
[09:47] <k1l> sam323: why is your user not in the sudoers list?
[09:47] <sam323> no idea
[09:47] <zipy> ye
[09:47] <k1l> are you the admin?
[09:47] <sam323> yeah
[09:47] <k1l> is this a server?
[09:47] <sam323> no desktop
[09:47] <k1l> so what did you do there?
[09:47] <sam323> how do i run the imagewriter program now im root?
[09:47] <zipy> now start imagewriter
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> sudo -i   is advised as the user's profile is still in use, -s uses root's
[09:48] <k1l> why would you ever run programs as root?
[09:48] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nweb456786754: I would recommend backing up your data if you could by running sudo ecryptfs-recover-private (which will search and mount your private home directory provided you still remember your login passphrase) and then try a reinstall or continue using USB and remount your home and make it writable (sudo mount -o remount,rw location-of-your-home-in-tmp)
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> k1l: ps -ef | grep root       lots do
[09:49] <k1l> ActionParsnip: i meant gui programs, and this was a rethorical question
[09:49] <The-Dark-Master> augh
[09:49] <k1l> a desktop user should ne be in contact with "getting root" so there was something other wrong on his system
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> k1l: copying files to /var/www   run nautilus as root for access is one I can think of
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> k1l: editting config files in /etc like smb.conf
[09:50] <k1l> like: why does he have a user that is not in sudoers list
[09:50] <k1l> ActionParsnip: /var/www on a desktop?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> k1l: sure, why not...?
[09:51] <k1l> ActionParsnip: i see your point, but again: there is something other wrong with his system. that should be solved
[09:52] <Kartagis> why would I be getting "Couldn't upload the file, check your internet connection" when I drag and drop an image to "Drop to share" on 13.04?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> k1l: if users like to edit in GUI aps like gedit, they should have that freedom, and they do
[09:53] <k1l> ActionParsnip: "do everything as root" is not the ubuntu way. so advising this points leads into the wrong direction, imho
[09:53] <MickS> yeah, and if people want to run 32-bit programs they need to be able to reinstall the server on 32-bits too!
[09:53] <GameMasterSahil> Micks: Here is the output of ldd filename:  not a dynamic executable
[09:54] <MickS> GameMasterSahil: file filename said it was dynamic with shared libs... are you talking about the same file?
[09:54] <GameMasterSahil> Micks: Yes
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> k1l: but sometimes its needed, especially for files owned by root:root
[09:55] <GameMasterSahil> Micks: Output of File Filename:
[09:55] <GameMasterSahil> VCMPServer: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[09:55] <The-Dark-Master> i broke ubuntu
[09:56] <Daughain> lol
[09:56] <cfhowlett_> !details|The-Dark-Master,
[09:56] <k1l> ActionParsnip: i know, but the problem from that user is that he is not in the sudoers list. the others is just a symptome.
[09:56] <The-Dark-Master> login info was unavailable
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> k1l: oh yes that trumps everything :)
[09:56] <MickS> GameMasterSahil: see, it does say 'dynamically linked (uses shared libs)'. So    ldd VCMPServer    should give something back
[09:57] <GameMasterSahil> Micks: Yes but's its giving nothing just a error
[09:57] <GameMasterSahil> Micks: Huh, I am very much confused with this matter
[09:57] <The-Dark-Master> and i only had it installed a couple hours
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master: can you logon as guest?
[09:58] <The-Dark-Master> yes but it crashes
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master: can you boot an older kernel?
[09:59] <The-Dark-Master> ?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master: hold shift at boot, select an older kernel
[09:59] <The-Dark-Master> it ran fine till i activated auto logon
[10:00] <GameMasterSahil> Micks: So any idea MickS?
[10:00] <MickS> GameMasterSahil: install the 32-bit libraries and see if it will fire up with that
[10:00] <MickS> the package is called ia32-libs
[10:01] <The-Dark-Master> me?
[10:01] <GameMasterSahil> Micks: May I get the link of the package?
[10:01] <GameMasterSahil> Direct link
[10:01] <MrQuist> Hey guys
[10:01] <MickS> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[10:01] <MrQuist> I'm having external-monitor issues :P
[10:01] <MrQuist> Ah, thanks MickS
[10:02] <MrQuist> Anyway: Im on a Lenovo ThinkPad T530 @ ubuntu 12.10. My external monitor works fine over VGA, but thats blurry. So i have this cable: Mini DP -> DP -> Into my monitor
[10:02] <MrQuist> Now, all i can see is the "Ubuntu" logo, as if my laptop is booting
[10:03] <MrQuist> In the system > displays however, is only my laptop screen. Not the external one.
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master: if you get to the login screen and hit CTRL+ALT+F1 you can login there and edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf You will need to comment out the 'autologin-user' line, like here http://askubuntu.com/questions/106428/how-to-disable-automatic-login
[10:03] <MrQuist> How can i make this work? What could be wrong?
[10:03] <The-Dark-Master> yeah, that lost me
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master: you can edit it with nano which is a CLI text editor
[10:03] <The-Dark-Master> wordpad?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master: pressing CTRL_ALT+F1 lost you?
[10:04] <The-Dark-Master> the other stuff did
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master: then run:   sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf   and make the changes, press CTRL+X, Press Y, Press ENTER
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master: then run:  sudo reboot
[10:04] <The-Dark-Master> ok
[10:05] <mapp>  hm
[10:05] <The-Dark-Master> yep, no boot
[10:05] <The-Dark-Master> oh krap
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master: then hold SHIFT at boot, select recovery mode and select root, you can make the changes there
[10:06] <The-Dark-Master-> damn char limit
[10:06] <The-Dark-Master-> im using a PSP here so
[10:06] <Newb101> is it possible to install ubuntu without the unity for example to have it just with openbox?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Newb101: sure, I do that
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Newb101: install ubuntu minimal then install openbox
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Newb101: or install xubuntu and install openbox
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> <3 openbox
[10:07] <Newb101> nice
[10:07] <The-Dark-Master-> i dont think my acer likes ubuntu
[10:07] <cfhowlett_> The-Dark-Master-, what are the specs?
[10:08] <The-Dark-Master-> i give, im trying lubuntu
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: its a simple text file edit
[10:08] <The-Dark-Master-> 1.6GHZ amd and 4 GB ram
[10:08] <k1l> !lubuntu | Newb101
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> The-Dark-Master-  I have a 4 year old acer (without hdmi :( ), works like a charm
[10:08] <cfhowlett_> The-Dark-Master-, or xubuntu ... both are optimized for older/lower spec machines ...
[10:08] <Newb101> nice
[10:09] <maroloccio> un commento: LXDE non è "estremamente" più leggera di GNOME, almeno non gnome-session-fallback (i.e. classic / gnome-2 / etc)
[10:09] <maroloccio> ho misurato.. non è "estremamente"
[10:09] <cfhowlett_> !es|maroloccio,
[10:09] <maroloccio> sorry guys
[10:09]  * cfhowlett_ ... or is that Italian?
[10:09] <Daughain> I have 12.04 on a T60, no issues here.
[10:10] <maroloccio> !it|maroloccio
[10:10] <The-Dark-Master-> this is a $20 acer, she had issues
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> I have a single core sempron 1.6Ghz w/ 2Gb RAM and nvidia 6150 onboard, works great
[10:10] <cfhowlett_> The-Dark-Master-, well, hey if you paid only $20 for her, you did good
[10:10] <Newb101> say for example ubuntu minimal vs arch linux are the architectures the same
[10:10] <The-Dark-Master-> i gotta upgrade my cpu
[10:11] <Newb101> ubuntu is .deb
[10:11] <The-Dark-Master-> she needed a new screen
[10:11] <The-Dark-Master-> i need a 64 bit os
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: why do you need 64bit OS?
[10:12] <k1l> The-Dark-Master-: is the CPU 64bit capable?
[10:12] <The-Dark-Master-> she runs like shit on a 32bit
[10:12] <The-Dark-Master-> she came with 64 bit factory
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: 64bit isn't outright faster
[10:12] <The-Dark-Master-> but i have access to all my ram
[10:13] <The-Dark-Master-> not 2 out of 4 gb
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> Newb101: the install method is similar in the minimal
[10:13] <maroloccio> i just wanted to say that it does not seem to me that lxde is "extremely" more lightweight
[10:13] <k1l> The-Dark-Master-: ubuntu uses PAE kernels, which use all the ram, too
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: the kernel is PAE, so can access up to 64Gb RAM
[10:13] <TopGear> How do I remove a folder via SSH from an external HD? "sudo rm -rf" gives me "can't remove, folder is not empty." If I try to access the folder, it gives me a input/output error.
[10:13] <maroloccio> i measured Vs gnome-session-fallback and, to be honest, it's "more lw".. but not "extremely so".
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> TopGear: is the file system read only?
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: basically, your 'need' doesn't seem very justified
[10:14] <llutz> maroloccio: some urban legends never die
[10:14] <TopGear> ActionParsnip: I don't believe so. I'll test it.
[10:14] <The-Dark-Master-> i need to upgrade the 32 bit windows that was put on here
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> TopGear: the 'mount' command will tell you
[10:14] <TopGear> ActionParsnip: Nope, r/w.
[10:14] <maroloccio> llutz: seriously.. one has to measure. it is def. "more" lw.. mind you.. but gnome "2" is pretty tight too..
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: ask in ##windows for windows support
[10:15] <The-Dark-Master-> eh, im losing windows
[10:15] <The-Dark-Master-> too much to upgrade to 64bit
[10:15] <The-Dark-Master-> thats why im going linux
[10:16] <k1l> maroloccio: gnome2 is not available anymore. an please put the comparison talks into the offtopic while we need this channel for support issues. thanks
[10:16] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: did you boot to root recovery to edit the file I said...?
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[10:16] <The-Dark-Master-> i couldnt
[10:16] <BluesKaj> hi ActionParsnip
[10:17] <The-Dark-Master-> ubunto wasnt in boot list
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: hold SHIFT at boot, from the time the system starts to power up, you will see grub
[10:17] <The-Dark-Master-> like i said, i broke it
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: then you can either chroot from liveCD and repair, or reinstall
[10:17] <The-Dark-Master-> lubunto is almost done anyways
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[10:18] <The-Dark-Master-> i used the windows installer though
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: ohhhhhhhhh, thats always hell
[10:18] <The-Dark-Master-> i have no flash
[10:18] <cfhowlett> The-Dark-Master-, details matter ...
[10:18]  * cfhowlett ... wonders why wubi yet lives on
[10:18] <The-Dark-Master-> i thought that didnt
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: i'd boot to WIndows, uninstall Wubi and then make an install CD. Resize your NTFS and install Ubuntnu to the freed space#
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: no idea, its garbage
[10:19] <The-Dark-Master-> my dvd drive wont burn
[10:19] <Daughain> Whats wubi?
[10:19] <The-Dark-Master-> its like gen 1 sata
[10:19] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip, I think wubi has turned more users off from ubuntu than it ever brought in ...
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: a cheap hack to make a disk file in the NTFS of windows, install ubuntu to it and use it like a dual boot.
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: its super fragile and hard to fix if it goes wrong.
[10:20] <The-Dark-Master-> augh, damn wubi
[10:20] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip, except it breaks frequently, messily and unpredictably
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: plus directly affected by fragmentation in Windows
[10:20] <The-Dark-Master-> error right as it finished
[10:21] <Daughain> Oi.
[10:21] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip, better "testing" environment in virtualbox ...
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> The-Dark-Master-: boot windows, remove wubi as you would any other app then make a bootable USB stick and install a real OS
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: its crap and should be canned
[10:21] <Eildor> hi all
[10:21] <cfhowlett> Eildor, greeting
[10:21] <cfhowlett> s
[10:21] <The-Dark-Master-> umm, will a PSP work?
[10:22] <Daughain> ActionParsnip, If it runs in windows, I agree with you. just partition from an install disk, if you need windows.
[10:22] <eoin_> hi
[10:22] <Eildor> how's everyone doing
[10:22] <eoin_> I would like to know, where can I get ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso?
[10:22] <Daughain> Eildor, Cursing wubi. =)
[10:22] <Eildor> tried googling it?
[10:23] <iceroot> !download | eoin_
[10:23] <iceroot> !google | Eildor
[10:23] <eoin_> when I go to ubuntu.com, and want to download, it keeps giving me ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[10:23] <eoin_> and I don't have amd, I have intel
[10:23] <Eildor> apologies, wasn't trying to be rude or anything
[10:23] <k1l> eoin_: did you read the bots message?
[10:23] <Daughain> eoin_, do you have a 64 bit system?
[10:23] <cor_r> eoin_, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop amd64 = 64 bit
[10:23] <iceroot> eoin_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.2/ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[10:24] <iceroot> eoin_: amd64 is also working on intel cpus
[10:24] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: amd64 is just the name of the architecture, it does not mean it is only running on amd cpus
[10:24] <eoin_> i need 64bit
[10:24] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: sorry wrong nick
[10:24] <aeon-ltd> short story It's just called that because amd got there first
[10:24] <iceroot> eoin_: amd64 is just the name of the architecture, it does not mean it is only running on amd cpus
[10:24] <aeon-ltd> plus it's shorter than itanium64
[10:25] <Daughain> eoin_, just download the amd file. It will work fine.
[10:25] <iceroot> eoin_: if you need 64bit use the amd64 version
[10:25] <eoin_> I downloaded and installed 1204, but now after reboot it won't boot
[10:25] <eoin_> thought it was the amd part
[10:25] <eoin_> what's the likely issue here??
[10:25] <k1l> eoin_: which cpu you got?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> eoin_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[10:25] <iceroot> eoin_: without details we cant help what "dont boot" means
[10:26] <eoin_> intel i3
[10:26] <iceroot> eoin_: intel i3 is a amd64 cpu
[10:26] <k1l> eoin_: ok, so its not the 64bit problem
[10:26] <eoin_> md5?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | eoin_
[10:27] <eoin_> i'm running linux
[10:27] <eoin_> not windows
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> eoin_: yes, there is an MD5 checker in Linux too.....
[10:27] <aeon-ltd> eoin_: start again. what do you see when you power on?
[10:27] <iceroot> eoin_: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> eoin_: try reading the content in the links, then comment
[10:28] <Eildor> so this channel isn't a ubuntu only chat right, also general talk
[10:28] <iceroot> Eildor: only ubuntu support
[10:28] <aeon-ltd> no ubuntu support only
[10:28] <Eildor> ah okay cool
[10:28] <aeon-ltd> minor 'deraillings' just happen anyway
[10:28] <DJones> !ot | Eildor If you want general Ubuntu chat,
[10:29] <Daughain> Eildor, chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:29] <Eildor> cool thank you
[10:29] <TDM-PSP> error: cannot find GRLDR in all devices
[10:29] <KyouReeUs4nfo> offtopic: (besides http*s://www.startpage.com is better than google.com even if it uses google.com)
[10:30] <eoin_> ok cheers guys
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> KyouReeUs4nfo: i prefer www.duckduckgo.com
[10:30] <k1l> !offtopic
[10:30] <KyouReeUs4nfo> non-JS version?
[10:30] <TDM-PSP> whats that suppose to mean?
[10:32] <BluesKaj> KyouReeUs4nfo, java is installed by default afaik
[10:33] <KyouReeUs4nfo> BluesKaj: https://www.duckduckgo.com/lite doesn't use JS
[10:33] <BluesKaj> KyouReeUs4nfo,  and ?
[10:34] <TDM-PSP> ok do i put the iso or unpack it into flash?
[10:34] <eoin_> the md5 check matched up ok
[10:35] <eoin_> the message at boot im getting is: "Image failed to verify with *ACCESS DENIED*. Press any key to continue."
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> TDM-PSP: use unetbootin
[10:35] <eoin_> ubuntu is showing in the boot menu
[10:36] <aeon-ltd> eoin_: i've never used a uefi/secure boot system, but i'm guessing that is the cause
[10:39] <eoin_> how do I recognise uefi?
[10:39] <eoin_> I don't know if I've got that
[10:41] <jgcampbell300> I would like to build a server for each of the locations that i take care of that monitors all the client computers - servers - and allows me a secure way of connecting to each of them when they need help ... anyone have any helpfull links ?
[10:41] <Eildor> what do you mean by monitors all the clients computers
[10:43] <jgcampbell300> health mostly but all the info i can get from it would be great
[10:43] <DJones> jgcampbell300: I haven't used any of these, but this link might have some pointers https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers#Monitoring
[10:44] <jgcampbell300> thanks DJones
[10:44] <jgcampbell300> trying to get them all to move to linux based os's ... not easy for MS dummies
[10:45] <DJones> jgcampbell300: Its probably worth asking the question in #ubuntu-server as well, people there could well have more experience of the options available
[10:46] <jgcampbell300> ya ... was headed over there in a few min ... i always like to come here first ... seems people that hang here usualy have a pointer or two to get me started ;)
[10:47] <Gnjurac> hi is ther some nativ FPS game that i can play?
[10:47] <jgcampbell300> i saw a really interesting system wala go ... was netsupportmanager or something like that .... seemed very advanced but still waiting for there us department to contact me
[10:47] <aeon-ltd> eoin_: when you boot there should be some options (BIOS?) disable secure boot then the warning message should stop
[10:47] <MrQuist> Hey Guys, I'm having external-monitor issues
[10:47] <MrQuist>  Im on a Lenovo ThinkPad T530 @ ubuntu 12.10. My external monitor works fine over VGA, but thats blurry. So i have this cable: Mini DP -> DP -> Into my monitor
[10:47] <MrQuist> Now, all i can see is the "Ubuntu" logo, as if my laptop is booting
[10:47] <jgcampbell300> try sirous sam
[10:47] <MrQuist> In the system > displays however, is only my laptop screen. Not the external one.
[10:47] <Gnjurac> i saw alot but aloat are empty servers
[10:47] <MrQuist> How can i make this work? What could be wrong?
[10:47] <aeon-ltd> Gnjurac: offtopic, also steam has a huge selection
[10:47] <Gnjurac> jgcampbell300: wher to get sirisus sam
[10:47] <fego> unaffiliated/rumpledelf/4
[10:47] <Gnjurac> i dont want steam
[10:47] <Gnjurac> i hate steam
[10:47] <jgcampbell300> Gnjurac look up steam
[10:47] <riskii> lol, that sucks
[10:48] <Gnjurac> is ther some non steam fps thet has players online
[10:48] <aeon-ltd> Gnjurac: please go to the offtopic channel
[10:48] <The-Dark-Master> origin
[10:48] <Gnjurac> offtopic
[10:48] <jack> hello
[10:49] <The-Dark-Master> how would i boot from usb?
[10:49] <Gnjurac> ubuntu-offtopic?
[10:49] <aeon-ltd> The-Dark-Master: change the boot order in the bios
[10:49] <blazemore> !offtopic | Gnjurac
[10:49] <Guest97085> nick jack
[10:49] <The-Dark-Master> but do i unpack the iso or what?
[10:49] <blazemore> The-Dark-Master: Have you already made a bootable USB stick?
[10:49] <jgcampbell300> The-Dark-Master are you using a MS os right now ?
[10:50] <The-Dark-Master> nope, win7
[10:50] <riskii> no, if you're on Windows right now I suggest downloading and using LiLi Linux live usb creator
[10:50] <blazemore> +1 for LiLi USB
[10:50] <The-Dark-Master> link?
[10:50] <riskii> When you start up your computer, there should be text somewhere on the screen that says something like DEL = Setup or F12 = STARTUP
[10:50] <jgcampbell300> I prefear YUMI
[10:50] <riskii> http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[10:50] <The-Dark-Master> boot order f-12
[10:51] <riskii> alright that's what you want when you get your USB working then
[10:51] <The-Dark-Master> so will i have to use my PSP or ipod?
[10:51] <Guest97085> my lappy's bluetooth device neither searches other bluetooth device nor other bluetooth devices can search it...need help pls?
[10:51] <rijack> i would like to create a scope for unity is there tutorial or something for this, where could i find it
[10:51] <blazemore> The-Dark-Master: Use a USB flash drive
[10:51] <riskii> I think you need a USB storage device/thumb drive
[10:52] <The-Dark-Master> i dont have one big enough
[10:52] <The-Dark-Master> just a 512mb
[10:52] <riskii> Are there netinstall ubuntu images?
[10:52] <blazemore> The-Dark-Master: Not much we can do to help you, then...
[10:52] <aeon-ltd> minimal iso
[10:52] <blazemore> The-Dark-Master: Do you have a blank DVD you can use?
[10:52] <aeon-ltd> !minimal
[10:52] <jpds> riskii: Yes.
[10:52] <The-Dark-Master> my drive wont burn
[10:52] <blazemore> The-Dark-Master try Amazon, they sell USB flash drives
[10:52] <aeon-ltd> The-Dark-Master: or just use the minimal iso
[10:53] <Guest97085> hello
[10:53] <The-Dark-Master> or use my psp as flash
[10:53] <Guest97085> pls help ..... bluetooth isnt working on ubuntu 13.04
[10:53] <The-Dark-Master> i already do so
[10:53] <DJones> riskii: Have you had a look at this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses There's a link in the page about creating lenses
[10:53] <blazemore> Guest97085: What's your laptop?
[10:53] <The-Dark-Master> but do i unpack the iso?
[10:54] <Guest97085> lenovo g580
[10:54] <blazemore> The-Dark-Master: No, use LiLi USB
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: do you dual boot?
[10:54] <blazemore> The-Dark-Master: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[10:54] <The-Dark-Master> ok then, thx
[10:54] <Guest97085> nope
[10:54] <riskii> Djones No I haven't
[10:54] <DJones> riskii: Sorry, that was rijack
[10:55] <riskii> I don't know why I joined #ubuntu to be honest, I'm on Chakra right now, lol.
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i blue     do you see the adapter being detected?
[10:55] <DJones> rijack: Also have a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/91065/how-to-create-a-scope
[10:55] <Guest97085> wait
[10:55] <blazemore> Guest97085: It seems that your bluetooth device is not supported, at least in Ubuntu 12.10, according to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1088888
[10:55] <rijack> thankyou very much
[10:56] <blazemore> Guest97085: Are you sure there's not a hardware switch on the laptop itsself to turn bluetooth on and off? Also, does wireless Internet work?
[10:56] <Guest97085> wireless also not working
[10:57] <bordism> To install ubuntu restricted extras, it said I have to remove some codec. but I didn't do it. Is that going to be a problem
[10:57] <Guest97085> it says cant load firmware, may not work correctly... at some line
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: have you used a wired conection and got fully updated?
[10:57] <Guest97085> yep
[10:57] <blazemore> Guest97085: The Lenovo G580 uses a combined Broadcom radio for both WiFi and Bluetooth - again, double check the hardware switch
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: ok, run:   sudo lshw -C network    what wifi chip are you using (Bet its a cheap broadcom)
[10:58] <Guest97085> jack@jack-Lenovo-G580:~$ dmesg | grep -i blue
[10:58] <Guest97085> [   12.411441] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.16
[10:58] <Guest97085> [   12.411461] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[10:58] <Guest97085> [   12.411470] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[10:58] <Guest97085> [   12.411473] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[10:58] <FloodBot1> Guest97085: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:58] <Guest97085> [   12.411485] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
[10:58] <blazemore> ActionParsnip: It is a broadcom
[10:58] <The-Dark-Master> ok lili installing
[10:58] <blazemore> Guest97085: Also, open the Additional Drivers tool (Application is called Software Sources) and check there's not a driver in there you can install
[10:58] <k1l> !paste | Guest97085
[10:59] <bordism> Anybody?
[11:00] <pusah7> I remember in the past there was "Additional drivers".... where is it now?
[11:00] <bordism> There's a "ubuntu restricted extras"
[11:00] <DJones> bordism: Its probably that a codec in restricted extra's replaces/superseeds one thats already installed
[11:00] <bordism> I installed it, and it warned that I should remove something
[11:00] <bordism> Yeah, I get it
[11:00] <bordism> but I didn't remove the thing
[11:00] <bordism> is it going to cause a problem?
[11:00] <Guest97085> broadcom is active
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | blazemore
[11:01] <blazemore> bordism: If it was important, it would have removed it for you
[11:01] <bordism> It's just I'm setting up this computer for someone else and I don't want them to complain that something doesn't work
[11:01] <DJones> pusah7: On 12.10 and later, its in System settings and then Software sources, there should be a tab called additional drivers
[11:01] <blazemore> Thanks ActionParsnip ... I guess?
[11:02] <blazemore> I would never buy a device with a Broadcom wireless chipset, based on observations of users' experiences in this channel
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: they arent too bad, i like to get ones that work ootb
[11:02] <pusah7> DJones: thank you. could you please tell me for Lubuntu 13.04 (in french if possible :)
[11:02] <bordism> okie dokie
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | Guest97085
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: you can use the wired connection to easily install it
[11:04] <DJones> pusah7: Sorry, I don't use Lubuntu and I don't speak French, it may be worth asking in #lubuntu or #ubuntu-fr for French language support though
[11:05] <pusah7> DJones: ok thank you
[11:06] <Guest97085> blazemore , actionparsnip,... gys help
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: I have told you what to do AND given a step by step guide.
[11:09] <Guest97085> yeppy wifi working
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: weird huh, you  read and follow the guides...and it worked? wow!
[11:09] <Guest97085> actionparsnip  i think  i'v sent you screen shot of addtional drivers window ......
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: i dont accept uploads, use imageshack or similar to make a url
[11:18] <Guest97085> actionparsnip did you get the image....
[11:19] <histo> !paste | Guest97085
[11:20] <Guest97085> http://imagebin.org/263188
[11:22] <HankMccoy> hey i'm new here
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: you need to post the URL of the image in the channel
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/580/yepx.png/
[11:22] <ActionParsnip>  http://imagebin.org/263188
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: like that
[11:23] <DJones> ActionParsnip: They have done, the just didn't highlight your nick with it
[11:25] <HankMccoy> can someone do me a favor and drop by the anonops irc chat
[11:26] <ikonia> HankMccoy: what has that go tot do with ubuntu ?
[11:26] <histo> Guest97085: what is the problem now?
[11:27] <Guest97085> didnt you get image yet? actionparsnip
[11:27] <jnhghy> i have a hp eee notebook that had windows preinstalled, I added ubuntu but widows just crushed, I want to reinstall windows without loosing my ubuntu, if I fallow the steps to reinstall windows from the installed on the hdd(windows installer) will I lose ubuntu?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: yes, what is the issue>
[11:27] <HankMccoy> nothing like I said I need a favor but I did recently switch to Ubuntu so I will be stopping by here to learn stuff
[11:27] <ikonia> HankMccoy: ok, so it's nothing to do with ubuntu, so please don't ask in here
[11:27] <HankMccoy> a coworker suggested it
[11:28] <Guest97085> even if it says driver active...y it still not detecting any device...y others cant detect it..
[11:28]  * The-Dark-Master is now away - Reason : Auto-Away (Away from Keyboard for 30 minutes)
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: tell Windows installer to format the current NTFS partition and install to it. You will need to reinstate grub using Ubuntu liveCD as the installer will blindly overwrite grub
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> !away | The-Dark-Master
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: do you have the b43 firmware cutter package installed?
[11:32] <HankMccoy> so no one will help but if I have Ubuntu problems this is the place
[11:32] <Xeno-Genesis> I want to get a nice Ubuntu laptop, but the Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition isn't available in my area, does anyone know of alternatives?
[11:33] <Guest97085> nope
[11:33] <Xeno-Genesis> I'm using an Asus Zenbook UX32A, but I think the guy who assembled it was drunk that day
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> HankMccoy: yes
[11:33] <DJones> HankMccoy: You haven't asked an Ubuntu support question yet
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: install it using software centre
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Xeno-Genesis: system76 :)
[11:34] <Guest97085> installed wt nw>
[11:34] <Xeno-Genesis> ActionParsnip, Is there something else? I was looking at their systems, but it looks like the hardware is state-of-the-2000s
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Xeno-Genesis: http://linuxpreloaded.com/
[11:35] <Xeno-Genesis> I'll check it out ActionParsnip, thanks
[11:35] <HankMccoy> well I kinda miss my windows dvd burner now installed k3b but because I have to convert must files to mpg they won't play on most dvd players/game consoles
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Xeno-Genesis: the bonobo is pretty sweet 3Tb HDD, 32Gb RAM, Nvidia 680M,  i7-3630QM Processor ( 2.40GHz )
[11:36] <HankMccoy> burn as avi and nothing either
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Xeno-Genesis: circa 2000 ?
[11:36] <Xeno-Genesis> ActionParsnip, yes, circa 2000
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> HankMccoy: try devede
[11:37] <BluesKaj> !dvd | HankMccoy
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Xeno-Genesis: http://ark.intel.com/products/71459   i7-3630QM released Q3 2013
[11:37] <lenz> Hey guys! I'm having a problem with a piece of software in the Ubuntu repos.
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Xeno-Genesis: sorry, 2012
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Xeno-Genesis: so, soryy...but no
[11:38] <Xeno-Genesis> ActionParsnip, I want something more, er, portable
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> HankMccoy  winFF is a nice GUI to convert audio/video files
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Xeno-Genesis: still not 2000 though, is it?
[11:38] <Xeno-Genesis> ActionParsnip, Agreed that the Bonobo is good, hardware-wise, even the display seems good, but it's too large
[11:38] <HankMccoy> well that makes sense who wants to get sued
[11:38] <JJ_> hey everyone, just a quick question about adobe flash in ubuntu if anyone could pm and help me.. running into big trouble
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> JJ_: ask in the channel
[11:39] <HankMccoy> I already got winFF little bro recomended it
[11:39] <lenz> It's called mediatomb.  The problem is that it starts up by default (as root!) when I boot into my system.
[11:39] <JJ_> ok sure
[11:39] <lenz> I really don't want it to do that.
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> lenz: i use plex
[11:39] <BluesKaj> HankMccoy, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[11:40] <HankMccoy> nope got a sudo cmd?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Xeno-Genesis: if you search amazon, you will see people's reviews if they ran Ubuntu on it
[11:40] <lenz> ActionParsnip, that is propiretary
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> lenz: so?
[11:40] <zipy> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras :P
[11:40] <BluesKaj> HankMccoy, yeah , sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:40] <lenz> ActionParsnip, I'd have to play for all features
[11:40] <lenz> I'm not doing that
[11:40] <Guest97085> ActionParsnip  installed b43 firmware wt nw?
[11:41] <JJ_> ActionParsnip: I have install adobe flash and everything, but streaming up videos to ubuntu by record isn't working, and other sites that require flash to stream video as well seem to just come up saying it cannot find the camera etc. But cheese works etc, could it be flash itself blocking these sites somehow?
[11:41] <jnhghy> after editing fstab, what should I restart for the change to be loaded
[11:41] <jnhghy> ?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> lenz: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MediaTomb   shows how you can make it run as another user
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> JJ_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> JJ_: please use a pastebin to host the text
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: sudo mount -a     will mount the new stuff
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Guest97085: reboot, please write in full sentances
[11:43] <HankMccoy> so I should have asked this first what is in the restricted extras
[11:43] <Guest97085> OK
[11:43] <JJ_> ActionParsnip: I am not at the pc atm, but later today or tomorrow i should have access to it and i can post this information
[11:43] <lenz> Thanks, ActionParsnip! Isn't there a file called init or something where all the autostart applications are put?
[11:43] <lenz> Id just have to remove it from there
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> JJ_: cool, make the pastebin, state your issue and post the link :)
[11:44] <JJ_> ActionParsnip: i sure will, thanks very much!
[11:44] <HankMccoy> and what is this configuring ttf-mscorefonts-installer?
[11:44] <zipy> microsoft fonts
[11:45] <HankMccoy> so it is done just close it?
[11:45] <KM0201> when its done, click close
[11:45] <zipy> if ur cmdline is ready ye
[11:45] <DJones> HankMccoy: The ttf fonts are Windows fonts, you have to accept a license to install those, you should be able to click accept on the licence to continue
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> HankMccoy: use TAB and ENTER to accept the license
[11:45] <KM0201> oh thats right..
[11:45] <antonio_> does anyone else have a problem with kdenlive taking FOREVER to render videos?
[11:46] <antonio_> I'm seriously thinking of dumping Linux.  I have business I need to do.  I need an operating system that just works
[11:46] <earl2> I'd like to code a get-rich-quick web app with subscribers with someone (on the lean startup model, i.e. with a small lean startup company behind it).  I do code.
[11:46] <lenz> antonio_, go ahead
[11:46] <HankMccoy> tab enter worked
[11:46] <KM0201> antonio_: i've used it for 8yrs.. i'd say "just works" describes it perfectly
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> HankMccoy: ;)
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: then don't use it, you have that freedom
[11:48] <bipul> What is Pre-compiled binaries (static) ?
[11:48] <KM0201> the beauty of choice i guess.
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: indeed, tool for the job :)
[11:49] <riskii> bipul it kind of depends on the context
[11:50] <riskii> pre-compiled binaries are just executables that are already ready to go and be run
[11:50] <riskii> as for static I have no idea, which is why it depends on context
[11:50] <bipul> riskii, I don't find ./configu file inside that file
[11:50] <HankMccoy> and the earlier link well I already have VLC I was talking about using winFF to convert stuff like xvid format to mpg and it will not play on most devices
[11:50] <antonio_> damnit!
[11:50] <antonio_> kdenlive just stops rendering
[11:50] <riskii> Oh, is this a package we're talking about
[11:51] <bipul> http://www2.tkn.tu-berlin.de/research/evalvid/ look at this
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: tried setting it a lower nice value?
[11:51] <antonio_> this is so goddamn frustrating...last time I used kdenlive it worked no problem.  now it wont render
[11:52] <riskii> oh, those are the pre-made executables you need to run the program. download the version you need to run the program
[11:53] <devinceble> question running a production ubuntu server using virtualbox bad or good IDEA?
[11:53] <antonio_> actionparsnip: how do I do that?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> devinceble: both and neither
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: if the process is running already, look into 'renice' or you can set the nice value of the process with the 'nice' command
[11:54] <tirtasullivan> guys
[11:54] <tirtasullivan> i need to ask something
[11:54] <tirtasullivan> I'm running Ubuntu LTS 12.04
[11:54] <tirtasullivan> i have this laptop for almost 1 year. .
[11:54] <tirtasullivan> but lately. .
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> tirtasullivan: try hitting ENTER less
[11:55] <KM0201> lol
[11:55] <lenz> tirtasullivan, update
[11:56] <tirtasullivan> *sorry, chat habit :p. . . .next : my laptop can only survive for 8 hours or less than after that, sometimes it get hang, or  restart itself.
[11:56] <tirtasullivan> so, is it probably because overheat?
[11:56] <KM0201> antonio_: have you considered avidemux?
[11:56] <riskii> possibly, what happens when it actually stops working?
[11:56] <tirtasullivan> i'm using dual boot btw
[11:56] <tirtasullivan> Windows 7.
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> tirtasullivan: does the system have a make and model?
[11:57] <tirtasullivan> you meant the laptop model?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> tirtasullivan: yes
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> tirtasullivan: what else
[11:57] <antonio_> km0201: I shouldn't have to change programs.  I really #$%$ing hate when a program works..then decides not to work
[11:57] <tirtasullivan> Ehh, Axioo Neon HNM
[11:57] <tirtasullivan> They released it last year.
[11:57] <KM0201> antonio_: well, i doubt it "decided" not to work.. it's software and therefore cannot think on its own
[11:57] <antonio_> I really don't want to go back to windows, but I also need an operating system that will work...where I dont have to always deal with broken packages
[11:57] <KM0201> it was just a suggestion
[11:58] <antonio_> I realize that..sorry..super frustrated
[11:58] <tirtasullivan> my older laptop is the same Axioo but i've been using that laptop almost for 3 years and it's still okey .
[11:58] <KM0201> antonio_: what version of ubuntu are you using?.. i've not dealt w/ broken packages in... years.
[11:58] <antonio_> can't even remember...
[11:58] <antonio_> 12.10 I think
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> tirtasullivan: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display     do you see an intel and an nvidia gpu, or just intel?
[11:59] <tirtasullivan> hold on.
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> tirtasullivan: the other system is different, so will act differently
[12:00] <antonio_> this is freaking ridiculous!
[12:01] <BluesKaj> antonio_, lsb_release -a , will give your ubuntu version
[12:01] <antonio_> 10.10
[12:01] <antonio_> whoops
[12:01] <KM0201> lmao
[12:01] <antonio_> 12.10
[12:01] <KM0201> well, you redeemed yourself
[12:02] <KM0201> did you recently update kdenlive?
[12:02] <antonio_> nope
[12:02] <antonio_> and there are no updates
[12:02] <KM0201> well, something changed obviously.
[12:02] <antonio_> in the past year I've had nothing but troubles with linux..
[12:03] <KM0201> well, linux isn't for everyone
[12:03] <circle> i need to return some video tapes
[12:03] <antonio_> it was working fine for a while...argh...I can't get any damn work done!
[12:03] <antonio_> video tapes?  what year are we in ;)
[12:03] <circle> GorDon GeCkO
[12:03] <DJones> circle: Please don't spam
[12:04] <antonio_> I'm ready to break this damn laptop
[12:04] <riskii> as long as the distro has tablet mapping support package I usually get anything working
[12:04] <KM0201> lol.. i didn't know you could even rent VHS anymore
[12:04] <antonio_> nah..beta max :D
[12:04] <antonio_> how can I use that renice command with kdenlive?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: use te web, it will tell you
[12:06] <circle> GorDon GeCkO
[12:09] <antonio_> km0201: I don't get this.  About 5 minutes before I was having an issue with this it would render files no problem.  Then nothing
[12:25] <x5seb9x> Hello everyone. I would like to use Ubuntu at my company
[12:25] <x5seb9x> but we have full Windows infrastructure
[12:25] <x5seb9x> I guess best would be to start with a study
[12:25] <Squarepy> x5seb9x, virtual box
[12:26] <x5seb9x> virtual box?
[12:26] <x5seb9x> to run windows programs
[12:26] <x5seb9x> ok Thanks I'll check this out
[12:27] <willybilly0101> x5seb9x, what company field?
[12:27] <sb8459> wut
[12:27] <sb8459> wut
[12:27] <willybilly0101> what are the requests
[12:27] <x5seb9x> we have around 20 computers
[12:27] <x5seb9x> 2 servers
[12:27] <willybilly0101> you want to use Ubuntu for servers or desktops
[12:27] <x5seb9x> run various versions of Windows
[12:27] <willybilly0101> what kind of servers
[12:27] <willybilly0101> etc etc
[12:28] <willybilly0101> vbox will help you learn, but it's no replacement for real life testing
[12:28] <x5seb9x> we are an engineering company
[12:28] <x5seb9x> software we use
[12:28] <x5seb9x> are for example
[12:28] <x5seb9x> Microsoft office 2010
[12:28] <x5seb9x> Autocad
[12:28] <FloodBot1> x5seb9x: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:28] <x5seb9x> ok
[12:29] <willybilly0101> do you have linux alternatives for office & autocad that you know how to use properly?
[12:29] <Squarepy> autocad is hard to replace
[12:30] <willybilly0101> yes it is
[12:30] <willybilly0101> maybe x5seb9x wants only linux servers?
[12:31] <Squarepy> maybe x5seb9x  wants to a bit more concise and clear :)
[12:31] <tonylinux> hi
[12:32] <Squarepy> endih
[12:32] <vl4kn0> Hi, I have an application that's targetting Mac OS X, Windows and Linux. It mainly consists of trayicon. Since ubuntu does not support trayicons I decided to write appindicator for it. Is there any general/standardized way of how to show appindicator only on unity?
[12:33] <Daughain> I have an entry in death that's causing my system to not boot. How do I comment it out from recovery?
[12:33] <Daughain> Death==fstab
[12:35] <Squarepy> Daughain, live cd?
[12:35] <Squarepy> oh nvm
[12:35] <mastaba> morning
[12:35] <Daughain> Squarepy: ??
[12:35] <x5seb9x> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5836088/
[12:37] <mastaba> not sure if anyone here can help me... Im trying to set up an ubuntu file server for our office, and Im trying to find a solution to share with windows computers.  Samba seems to only allow one pc to connect or even browse at a time.
[12:38] <blazemore> mastaba: Are you getting "Error 1219" ?
[12:38] <auronandace> !ad | mastaba
[12:38] <sindri> Currently trying to get virtual users to work with vsftpd, as the only user of my server is it still advisable to create a directory under /home/ for the virtual user?
[12:39] <mastaba> blazemore: I don't believe so, it says only one user can connect at a time.  seems to be a windows issue :/
[12:39] <mastaba> auronandace: is that the fix to this problem from samba4 then?  I think I need to upgrade.
[12:40] <mastaba> Previously we had an OpenBSD box running what I believe was samba, and never had issues
[12:41] <blazemore> mastaba: Perhaps here can help? http://superuser.com/questions/95872/sambawindows-allow-multiple-connections-by-different-users
[12:42] <mastaba> our file server has been down for 4 weeks.  we got the new one in friday afternoon and they are mad it wasn't up yesterday morning -_-
[12:42] <antonio_> actionparsnip: I tried renice..didn't do anything
[12:43] <mastaba> blazemore: that seems to allow one computer to connect to the server with two sessions.  I need 10+ users to be able to connect at once
[12:43] <blazemore> mastaba: AFAIK Samba just does that out of the box...
[12:45] <mastaba> blazemore: doesn't seem to be my experience.  I've tried both ubuntu server 12.10 and now 13, but they both do the same thing.  Perhaps I need to set up a user for each computer connection
[12:45] <mastaba> it works flawlessly with only one person connecting though
[12:46] <mastaba> I know it is a mircosoft issue, unfortunately everyone here is running Adobe creative suite and/or filemaker
[12:47] <willybilly0101> x5seb9x, so question remain open, do you have replacement tools for your desktops?
[12:47] <willybilly0101> Adobe Creative Suite - no
[12:48] <x5seb9x> not really I am checking now if it's doable. For the Office pack for example, I have seen a video where Canonical is showing Ubuntu running from a smartphone and somehow they were also running microsoft office on it
[12:48] <x5seb9x> I have not listed yet what I could use as a replacement
[12:49] <willybilly0101> x5seb9x, you need linux replacements
[12:49] <willybilly0101> openoffice/libre office
[12:49] <willybilly0101> servers are easy to configure
[12:49] <auronandace> x5seb9x: are you sure that wasn't libreoffice you saw?
[12:49] <x5seb9x> I am sure
[12:49] <x5seb9x> lemme find the link
[12:49] <willybilly0101> but if your users are trained in a system, you will fuck them with changhing everything
[12:50] <Squarepy> dual boot
[12:50] <auronandace> !anguage | willybilly0101
[12:50] <auronandace> !language | willybilly0101
[12:50] <willybilly0101> haha
[12:51] <x5seb9x> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66S8is1E9MI
[12:51] <sindri> trying to get vsftp running with virtual user, as I only have one user should one still create a new home dir for it? Or allow it to ftp to my home?
[12:51] <mastaba> why not use google docs for business instead of libreoffice
[12:53] <sindri> Anyone running vsftpd who could help me out?
[12:56] <auronandace> x5seb9x: microsoft office was nowhere in that vid
[12:56] <Squarepy> mastaba, because nsa :)
[12:57] <mastaba> Squarepy: if it's for business, who cares though?
[12:57] <bipul> How to extract .7z file.
[12:57] <Squarepy> mastaba who knows
[12:57] <_droid> hi, I work with tryton on unbutu and I noticed that the package is becomming old. The current version of tryton is 2.8, ubiuntu has 2.2.1 in it's repositories
[12:57] <Daughain_> Squarepy, Thanks for the idea. Live cd fixed the issue.
[12:58] <_droid> and i wanted to know who can I talk to about updating the package
[12:58] <Squarepy> ok ha Daughain_
[12:58] <x5seb9x> auronandace: check at 1:44 you find the icons of PowerPoint and Excel
[12:59] <willybilly0101> x5seb9x, I think you better keep windows (I assume you are the it)
[12:59] <x5seb9x> ok
[12:59] <x5seb9x> willybilly0101: don't you think we could use some of our computers with Ubuntu?
[12:59] <auronandace> x5seb9x: icons mean nothing, i didn't see them run the program
[13:00] <willybilly0101> because if you don't understand perfectly what happens, what are your available tools for replacement and how to implement it, being in a production envirnoment you will BEEP things up
[13:00] <auronandace> x5seb9x: you could use ubuntu but i get the distinct feeling you'll run into many problems with such a windows centric environment
[13:00] <Squarepy> x5seb9x, I think you could educate yourself a bit and make a informed choice
[13:01] <x5seb9x> I think the best is that we just install Ubuntu on a unused computer as a test and to run a "hands-on" feasibility test
[13:02] <willybilly0101> x5seb9x, what about servers?
[13:02] <Squarepy> then we agree
[13:03] <x5seb9x> willybilly0101: from what I hear from all of you it seems too complicated to study the feasibility of replacing our infrastructure. I guess I would keep the windows servers and just try first on the user side with one computer connecting to the active directory server?
[13:03] <willybilly0101> it's not complicated to study
[13:04] <antonio_> how can I figure out whats wrong with kdenlive
[13:04] <willybilly0101> first you need to study
[13:04] <bipul> ! lib-bav
[13:04] <antonio_> Its taking FOREVER to render short clips
[13:04] <willybilly0101> antonio_, just ask him
[13:04] <auronandace> antonio_: best to ask kdenlive developers
[13:04] <chunkyhead> does anyone know is it possible to  copy stuff from the GUI menu and paste stuff in the tty?
[13:04] <KyouReeUs4nfo> (don't think this one has a limit) simple python server (can be killed with Ctrl+C) --> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/tech-tip-really-simple-http-server-python
[13:05] <bipul> !libav-tools
[13:07] <gbit86> I need some help setting up an Upstart script? (stanza?)
[13:08] <gbit86> For someone reason when I add a Stanza conf to /etc/init/ to startup an application it does not run
[13:08] <gbit86> if I run it manually via "start appName" it does run fine
[13:08] <x5seb9x> auronandace: in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRoYlgOC9z0 they talk about a "windows 7 server". Do you have any idea how they run the office pack that way? And do you think that
[13:08] <x5seb9x> auronandace: would be a good replacement/
[13:09] <gbit86> start on filesystem or runlevel [2345]
[13:09] <gbit86> stop on runlevel [06]
[13:09] <gbit86> That is what is in it and I am on Ubuntu 12.04 I believe
[13:11] <doomlord> does bzr have the equivalent of git bare repository support
[13:13] <razzledazzle> guys, I kicked myself out of my own house :|
[13:13] <auronandace> x5seb9x: that makes more sense, they are running a cloud server and the application is on the server and ubuntu is just being used as a thin client to access it
[13:13] <razzledazzle> lost permission to practically everything
[13:13] <razzledazzle> what do I do?
[13:13] <razzledazzle> sudo chmod -u+4 /
[13:13] <razzledazzle> that's what I did
[13:13] <bipul> Hello i can i install libav file in my ubuntu to conver .yuv file into .m4v
[13:13] <bipul> hellopat, How i can i install libav file in my ubuntu to conver .yuv file into .m4v
[13:13] <KyouReeUs4nfo> razzledazzle: use live USB to undo it
[13:15] <x5seb9x> auronandace: so basically best in our case to have a windows cloud or local server and connect to it with our Ubuntu clients but basically also meaning we have to have a good bandwidth right?
[13:15] <BenyaminL> hello, ijust fixed my ubuntu burg, now i wana merge a unallocated partition, now i need hlep using gparted, i have try anything, i can't, need future help, thx
[13:15] <KyouReeUs4nfo> razzledazzle: or use recovery, drop as root to undo it
[13:15] <sindri> Still no one who can help me out with vsftpd?
[13:15] <mregg> Hi - need help or pointers big time. Somebody installed Webmin/Virtualmin on server and since then postfix no longer accepts any connection.
[13:18] <auronandace> x5seb9x: i can't really say whats best for your setup but i can tell you there will very likely be issues due to the programs your using
[13:18] <x5seb9x> ok
[13:19] <x5seb9x> thanks!
[13:19] <MrQuist> Hey Guys, I'm having external-monitor issues
[13:19] <MrQuist>  Im on a Lenovo ThinkPad T530 @ ubuntu 12.10. My external monitor works fine over VGA, but thats blurry. So i have this cable: Mini DP -> DP -> Into my monitor
[13:19] <MrQuist> Now, all i can see is the "Ubuntu" logo, as if my laptop is booting
[13:19] <MrQuist> In the system > displays however, is only my laptop screen. Not the external one.
[13:19] <MrQuist> How can i make this work? What could be wrong?
[13:19] <FloodBot1> MrQuist: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:19] <MrQuist> sry FloodBot1 i type fast ;)
[13:20] <tking> please how do i install Dev C++ in  ubuntu
[13:20] <MrQuist> tking -> download it and install it
[13:21] <tking> MrQuist, i cant find the Ubuntu version
[13:21] <armin> so what are the reasons ubuntu ships with a dnsmasq right now?
[13:22] <MrQuist> then i hope there is one for you tking
[13:22] <MrQuist> ....
[13:22] <BluesKaj> tking, depends what C++ dev field you want
[13:22] <MrQuist> tking, http://www.bloodshed.net/dev/devcpp.html
[13:22] <MrQuist> i suppose that "Requirements
[13:22] <MrQuist>
[13:22] <MrQuist> Windows 95 or higher"
[13:22] <FloodBot1> MrQuist: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:22] <MrQuist> means that its for windows.
[13:23] <MrQuist> Damn you floodbot.
[13:23] <armin> damn, that floodbot really sucks.
[13:23] <x5seb9x> tking > Ctrl + alt + F2  then type lsb_release -a
[13:23] <adamk> MrQuist: Seriously, stop using Enter as punctuation, and you won't have this problem.
[13:23] <MrQuist> tking, replace CTRL+ALT+F2 with CTRL+SHIFT+T
[13:23] <MrQuist> adamk, i'm sorry, i pasted something wrong.
[13:24] <BluesKaj> MrQuist, then stop using the enter key for each phrase
[13:24] <armin> you are in a linux channel. people there use the command line. they write things. quickly. and it's good that they do that.
[13:24] <mregg> Hi all :) anyone familiar with Postfix?
[13:25] <adamk> armin: There's a difference between writing things quickly, and flooding the channel by using the enter key over and over when a simple comma or period will do.
[13:25] <MrQuist> I never use enter for punctuation. Why would i. Also, is there someone that can help me with my monitor problem? Hello? Someone? .... I'd like some help with my monitor problems.. I suppose its the videocard drivers or something. Its weird tho, since i _do_ get a simple ubuntu logo when i plug my monitor in. Hello?
[13:26] <armin> adamk: sure is, and i vote for not using enter as punctuation as well, but forcing a way of speech (by a bot) on humans is just completely wrong.
[13:27] <armin> adamk: and i'm writing irc bots myself.
[13:27] <sindri> ufw tells me port 21 is allowed, but telnet localhost @ that port is refused, why is that?
[13:28] <Friberg_> you have nothing there
[13:28] <MrQuist> I wish I could just use the enter key :( @armin -> indeed. Also, the only reason that i made that triple-line post, was because i accidentaly pasted a 0x13.. But erm, is there someone that could help me out? @armin, oh cool, what kind of bots? @sindri, is there a firewall / service running there?
[13:28] <armin> adamk: apart from that, i aggregate thoughts while i type, and using the enter key terminates a line of thoughts for me, mentally. people think in a very different way, and while it's ok to tell them to not flood that way and reconsider their way of thinking while they communicate, it's pretty bad to force your way of thinking on others.
[13:28] <sindri> I was hoping my ftp (vsftpd) service ran there, any quick way to check?
[13:29] <auronandace> armin: they won't change the floodbots, thats the way it is, just accept the channel guidelines and move on
[13:29] <armin> adamk: MrQuist is just using a pretty awkward workaround to not get punished by the bot right now as you can see, as he tries to be kind and communicate in a way that is fine with everyone here. that's a very friendly thing, and it destroys the separation of thoughts in his speech.
[13:30] <bipul> Hello why i am getting this error http://pastebin.com/Etgakg90
[13:30] <MrQuist> @sindri: lantup -pa | grep *processname*
[13:30] <MrQuist> netstat* sorry
[13:30] <MrQuist> netstat -pa | grep *application*
[13:30] <armin> auronandace: i'm not trying to change that. i'm just saying it's wrong and they should feel ashamed for trying to force this by bots.
[13:30] <antonio_> no one is chatting in #kdenlive...
[13:30] <BluesKaj> armin, that's what sentences are for separated by periods :)
[13:31] <antonio_> I think the problem is with melt...its showing that its taking 114% of the CPU is system monitor...what can I do?
[13:31] <armin> BluesKaj: and that's just what i do. but in technical speech that's just sometimes not possible, especially when using multiline pastes, which again is not a problem at all if you don't use more than, say, 3 lines or so.
[13:31] <Allyoutoo> Why is the Minitube applicaiton in software center licensed as proprietary software if its licensed under LGPL :S
[13:31] <jrib> armin: before the bot, the rule still existed.  It just meant human beings had to be bothered to send the factoid to people.  The rule helps with channel readability.  Let's move on
[13:31] <MrQuist> @ sindri -> this might work better: netstat -tulpn |grep :21
[13:32] <sindri> MrQuist : thanks, it returns nothing so I guess I know where my problem is atleast
[13:32] <MrQuist> sindri , sorry, once again - you have to try  "netstat -tulpn |grep 21"
[13:32] <MrQuist> that should show a service on port 21
[13:32] <MrQuist> or not.
[13:32] <armin> jrib: again, i'm writing bots myself, but i never write any that do harm to people. but yes, let's move on on that one.
[13:32] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sindri: iptables -nvL may tell you more about it. (If I may say this, ufw is not the actual firewall)
[13:33] <armin> MrQuist: irc-bots of any kind, mostly simple ones in python that perform specific tasks. right now a twitter bot that aggregates tweets, tweets itself, etc.
[13:33] <adamk> "harm to people"... Wow...  Never thought I'd hear anyone suggest FloodBoot was actually harming people.
[13:33] <sindri> KyoReeUs4nfo : hehe I know ufw isn't the real thing but is was more noob friendly; haven't really gotten the hang of iptables, and using fail2ban so it's HUGE
[13:34] <MrQuist> sweet :) @ adamk -> actually floodbot is flooding this channel.... I posted 3 lines. Floodbot then added 3 (+1 private). Then added 3 more.
[13:35] <armin> MrQuist: i fully agree with you.
[13:36] <numberto> Hi guys, I have intalled new font and can see it from Libreoffice writer, but does not see it in my terminal.
[13:36] <MrQuist> Plus, there's 3 of them.
[13:36] <armin> even worse would be kicking "flooders", at least it doesn't do that.
[13:36] <MrQuist> heheh +q can be even more annoying
[13:37] <auronandace> armin: it can kick repeating flooders
[13:37] <dellos> hi, i Cant open dash home , what should I do to repair that?
[13:41] <dellos> hi, i Cant open dash home , what should I do to repair that?
[13:43] <mbeierl> Is there any utility at all left for adding music to an ipod/phone/etc running ios 6 anymore?
[13:44] <MrQuist> yes. Destroy iOS and install Linux on it
[13:44] <mbeierl> MrQuist, um... linux doesn't install on an iDevice...
[13:44] <tannji> lol
[13:44] <MrQuist> hahah
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> dellos: which release?
[13:45] <MrQuist> the whole main code of iOS / OSX = unix
[13:45] <vl4kn0> Hi, what package provides gio/gio.h?
[13:45] <MrQuist> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m1rroUS_0g
[13:45] <mbeierl> MrQuist, and I'm looking for Ubuntu support, thanks
[13:48] <lugyimin> hi
[13:48] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sindri: any port-rule outbound or inbound added in iptables will be caught as open/filtered by localhost depending on the rule. For instance when 21--outbound--connection is dropped, telnet will keep trying to connect to it without any success...
[13:48] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sindri: nmap localhost to find out which ports are open/filtered
[13:50] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sindri: pgrep ftp to find process ID of running ftp server
[13:50] <htutmyat> testing
[13:52] <dellos> need some help with dash home error
[13:52] <dellos> it not work now
[13:52] <MrQuist> DICKS!
[13:52] <tpe> Interesting welcome.
[13:53] <compdoc> MrQuist, if you want some of those, youre better off going to a bar
[14:00] <btaylor_> Hi where can I get help with MAAS?
[14:02] <smallmouse> how do i know what users i have on the system ?
[14:03] <jatt> cat /etc/passwd
[14:03] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Quick question (I haven't really surfed for this): I would like to share just music player so that I could access that and the local playlists on the iPhone. Something like terminal services in we-in-dow-s. How do I go about it?
[14:03] <KyouReeUs4nfo> smallhouse: users
[14:04] <smallmouse> KyouReeUs4nfo: i have only 2, but 3 home directories ? any ideas ?
[14:04] <lmat> I have a device (/dev/sdc1) that doesn't have a UUID in /dev/disk/by-uuid . What should I do?
[14:04] <KyouReeUs4nfo> smallmouse: /etc/passwd comes with some users with /home
[14:05] <smallmouse> KyouReeUs4nfo: 2 users - ubuntu and ubuntu but 3 home directories drup, sira, ubuntu.  i thought i added the other 2 dont show up
[14:05] <jatt> anybody can create a home directory the user must not exist
[14:05] <smallmouse> KyouReeUs4nfo: yes more have come up
[14:06] <KyouReeUs4nfo> smallmouse: drup and sira ? did you create those?
[14:06] <smallmouse> KyouReeUs4nfo: yes
[14:06] <lmat> The disk shows up in /dev/disk/by-id as a USB drive...
[14:06] <KyouReeUs4nfo> smallmouse: all is well then, yes?
[14:06] <smallmouse> KyouReeUs4nfo: why dont they come uo ?
[14:07] <smallmouse> KyouReeUs4nfo: when i type in users, very misleading
[14:07] <smallmouse> KyouReeUs4nfo: i want to give them access to a particular directory and path but cant change permissions of the directory - is there a way to do this ?
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> KyouReeUs4nfo  is this useful? it's not exactly the same issue, though http://www.sysadminshare.com/2011/12/change-uuid-of-cloned-disk-in-linux.html
[14:08] <KyouReeUs4nfo> smallmouse: users command will tell you which ones are using bash terminals actually and I think you wanted to find out total number of users so that would be in /etc/passwd. If the other two are not logged in, it won't show when you execute users.
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> smallmouse: grep \/bin\/bash /etc/passwd | wc -l
[14:09] <jatt> exactly
[14:10] <smallmouse> ActionParsnip: thank
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> to show the usernames: grep \/bin\/bash /etc/passwd | cut -f1 -d":"
[14:10] <smallmouse> KyouReeUs4nfo: thank you
[14:11] <Crazyeagle> would like to ask a question about usb drives formatting mounting etc. Would this be the place?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> Crazyeagle: if its under Ubuntu, yes
[14:11] <lmat> Crazyeagle: YES!!!
[14:11] <Crazyeagle> ok
[14:11] <lmat> I have a device (/dev/sdc1) that doesn't have a UUID in /dev/disk/by-uuid . What should I do?
[14:11] <lmat> Crazyeagle: Can you help?
[14:12] <iceroot> lmat: sudo blkid is not shwoing a UUID?
[14:12] <lmat> iceroot: It doesn't show anything!
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> lmat  you too, this is a hint: uuidgen    http://www.sysadminshare.com/2011/12/change-uuid-of-cloned-disk-in-linux.html
[14:12] <Crazyeagle> Installed 12.04lts and then inserted usb initially it read it but then ejected it from nautilus
[14:13] <lmat> Crazyeagle: Must be lukewarm...
[14:13] <Crazyeagle> then reinserted the usb again everything was gone lmat
[14:13] <lmat> Crazyeagle: whoa...that's worse than lukewarm...this is gnashing of teeth!
[14:14] <Crazyeagle> lmat: yes is frustrating then same thing happen to a 2nd usb so afraid of putting any other usb drv in!
[14:14] <lmat> MonkeyDust: Wow, that looks easy enough! But it still leaves me flabberghasted as to why the original UUID is gone. Oh welll
[14:14] <lmat> for sure!
[14:14] <lmat> Crazyeagle: &
[14:14] <lmat> Crazyeagle: ^
[14:14] <Crazyeagle> lmat: got into gparted to format gparted won't list
[14:14] <lmat> Crazyeagle: You have another computer?
[14:15] <BluesKaj> Crazyeagle, or do you have a cdrom ?
[14:15] <lmat> Crazyeagle: yeah, see what it does to your CDs ^_^
[14:15] <AndreasEr> How can i use iptables to redirect all http errors(404,403 etc) to a specific IP?
[14:15] <Crazyeagle> yes I do
[14:16] <Crazyeagle> i used gparted won't see the usb then though well winblows maybe can reformat it won't let me
[14:16] <Crazyeagle> using dd tels me there is no medium
[14:16] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: it's called "windows" try to show a little bit of maturity and communicate the products correctly
[14:16] <lmat> AndreasEr: I don't think IPTables reads http ?
[14:16] <Crazyeagle> disk utility list this as sgf
[14:17] <Crazyeagle> sorry just kidding
[14:17] <BluesKaj> Crazyeagle,is this a an attempt at installing from a usb or just trnsferring files to a dir on the computer ?
[14:17] <lmat> ikonia's comment reflects a different world-view than that previously popular in free operating systems...
[14:18] <KyouReeUs4nfo> smallmouse: can you do chmod 755 to those user's directories?
[14:18] <Crazyeagle> BluesKaj: no I wanted to write some files just simple use a usb
[14:18] <lmat> No longer are the free softwares apparently taking pop shots at the "big boys", we now treat them with respect; not as equals, but as inferiors.
[14:18] <Crazyeagle> lmat: well what you think
[14:18] <Crazyeagle> lmat: lsusb list the device but gparted won't see it
[14:19] <lmat> Crazyeagle: I think you should do a careful, documentable test. Use another computer, write a file to the usb, put it in linux, take it back to the other computer and verify that the file is gone.
[14:19] <lmat> Crazyeagle: did the usb devices work before some other event?
[14:19] <lmat> Crazyeagle: Could it be that the data aren't deleted, but simply not listed?
[14:19] <AndreasEr> lmat , i dont know tbh. I have successfully redirected all trafic to a specific IP. But if the router isnt connected to the internet it doesent seams to work. Got any better idea how i can send basicly everything from the web(80/443) to an internal IP?
[14:19] <lmat> Crazyeagle: Are you using an old Dell?
[14:20] <Crazyeagle> lmat: the drive was being used on a venerable Windows 7 MS operating system
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Crazyeagle, sudo fdisk -l , see if it's listed there
[14:20] <samy> hola
[14:20] <lmat> AndreasEr: now, everything from the web is *very* different than all HTTP errors! Everything from the web is IP traffic, yes, this is very possible.
[14:20] <Crazyeagle> BluesKaj: no a optiplex 3010
[14:20] <samy> alguien q m exe una manita?
[14:20] <lmat> AndreasEr: No I don't know how. I'd have to experiment just like you ^_^ What's your setup?
[14:20] <lmat> Crazyeagle: venerable as opposed to winblows, or vulnerable?
[14:21] <lmat> samy no
[14:21] <Crazyeagle> lmat: not the file is gone the drive becomes inaccesible
[14:21] <BluesKaj> Crazyeagle, what's an optiplex 3010?
[14:21] <lmat> Crazyeagle: oh, it's an optiplex?
[14:21] <Crazyeagle> a dell
[14:21] <DJones> !es | samy
[14:21] <AndreasEr> lmat, It's a router running tomato and a raspberry (webserver) that i want to redirect all traffic too
[14:21] <lmat> Crazyeagle: I have had great USB problems on my dell (not running linux, not on the internet, etc.)
[14:21] <lmat> AndreasEr: raspberry pi?
[14:21] <AndreasEr> lmat, yes
[14:21] <BluesKaj> so Crazyeagle , just run the command I posted in the terminal
[14:21] <Crazyeagle> BluesKaj: yes he ask a old dell answer no a new one optiplex 3010
[14:22] <lmat> AndreasEr: You're wanting to multicast to both devices?
[14:22] <lmat> Crazyeagle: ahh new one...I would like to think that the USB subsystem is more stable now-a-days.
[14:22] <Crazyeagle> I already did and nothing
[14:22] <samy> es q nadie contesta en ningun lado
[14:22] <samy> jaja
[14:22] <samy> y probe aqui
[14:22] <lmat> samy no
[14:23] <k1l> !es | samy
[14:23] <lmat> yeah, solo in engles!!! ^_^
[14:23] <AndreasEr> lmat, I want all trafic on port 80/443 + error messages to redirect to the raspberry pi webserver
[14:23] <Crazyeagle> it won't list with fdisk or df or other only lsusb will list and only disk utility will see it
[14:23] <Crazyeagle> but cannot format with disk utility
[14:23] <lmat> AndreasEr: All incoming traffic ?
[14:24] <Crazyeagle> it says Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdf: No medium found
[14:24] <lmat> AndreasEr: Are you configuring a router?
[14:24] <Crazyeagle> BluesKaj: this is what disk utility or dd will always say Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdf: No medium found
[14:24] <lmat> Crazyeagle: what about    ls -al /dev/usb   ?
[14:25] <KyouReeUs4nfo> AndreasEr: may be string module could do it, not sure
[14:25] <AndreasEr> lmat , yes it's a router running tomato (linux)
[14:25] <Crazyeagle> lmat:  ls -al /dev/usb
[14:25] <Crazyeagle> lmat:  said ls: cannot access /dev/usb: No such file or directory
[14:25] <ikonia> AndreasEr: then why are you asking in #ubuntu ?
[14:26] <ikonia> AndreasEr: surly #netfilter would be the right place
[14:26] <prod_> Hi all. I am looking for help fixing my monitor resolution. After failing all the guides I have come here to ask what im doing wrong. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution is the main thread i am working from. For some reason xrandr --addmode isnt persistent.  I wasn't familiar with Tomato.
[14:27] <lmat> AndreasEr: gotcha
[14:27] <Crazyeagle> BluesKaj: any suggestions?
[14:27] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: there is no disk
[14:27] <lmat> AndreasEr: I'd have to google it same as you.
[14:27] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: it's not called sdf
[14:28] <ikonia> it's that simple
[14:28] <Crazyeagle> but disk utility list like that?
[14:28] <lmat> Crazyeagle: Thank goodness you got no medium found!
[14:28] <lmat> Crazyeagle: I think you would break it if that succeeded, right?
[14:28] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: ls -la /dev/sdf
[14:28] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle: should be something on the order of sdfx where x is a number
[14:28] <lmat> Crazyeagle: oh, no /dev/usb...so sorry
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Crazyeagle: sudo fdisk -l     will show the disk layouts
[14:29] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: ls -la /dev/sdf <- what I got
[14:29] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: was this brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 80 Jul  2 09:23 /dev/sdf
[14:30] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: from the cmd you suggested
[14:30] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle: what happens when you try fdisk /dev/sdf do you get an error message?
[14:30] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: ok, so that's got a device file,
[14:30] <Crazyeagle> lmat: fdisk: unable to open /dev/sdf: No medium found
[14:31] <ikonia> hang on
[14:31] <ikonia> thi sisn't a cdrom is it it
[14:31] <ikonia> is
[14:31] <Crazyeagle> no a usb it is a cruzer mini 512mb
[14:31] <Crazyeagle> put in different ports same thing
[14:32] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle do you have another computer you can try to verify that the usb drive still actually works?
[14:32] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: I put this usb on a win7 machine comes up but says can't access
[14:33] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: so what does that tell you.....
[14:33] <aiten_44> reason why I ask is flash memory can only be read to and written to so many times and being a 512mb flash drive leads me to believe its older and might not work any more
[14:33] <ikonia> Crazyeagle: can't access in windows...can't access in ubuntu
[14:34] <Crazyeagle> well but intially worked on win7 then put on ubuntu, ejected it properly with nautilus and then stoppped working
[14:34] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: so then used a second usb and same thing happen
[14:34] <sindri> according to #ps -A | grep "ftp" I got 10 processes running, is this normal behavious running vsftpd?
[14:35] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: so how many usbs I have to break on my ubuntu install to figure that something wrong is going on?
[14:36] <Crazyeagle> ikonia: when I put them back on win 7 then also everything is gone, thankfully did not have anything important
[14:36] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle: can you remformat the usb stick in windows?  If so try reformatting it as fat32 and then plugging it into your ubuntu comp see if it does it again
[14:37] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: it won't let me
[14:38] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle: alright was worth a shot have you tried opening that drive using gparted?
[14:38] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: windows sees it but then says insert a disk then try again! crazy because is a usb and it can see it
[14:38] <Takumo> Hey, anyone had the issue where logrotate doesn't seem to be runing the postrotate scripts
[14:39] <Takumo> but if you run it manually it does?
[14:39] <Crazyeagle> gparted won't see it but disk utility will
[14:39] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: so not sure what that is all about
[14:40] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle:  You said this was a sandisk crusier right?  I do beleive that some of those actually mounted as a cdrom drive and automounted the actuall flash portion might be part of your prob
[14:40] <Crazyeagle> well is an old sandisk 512mb in windows it did not have a cdrom section
[14:41] <Yud_Zroc> Im using ubuntu 13.04 and my update manager popped up with an update(which I dont mind) I am wondering why Kubuntu updates are starting to show for the KDE
[14:41] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: I had used previously on win pc and formatted them now on my ubuntu 12 did this
[14:42] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle: alright give me a sec I'm going to see if I can find something on this I'll be back
[14:42] <Crazyeagle> ok
[14:42] <Crazyeagle> ty
[14:46] <Crazyeagle> btw if i do this: mkfs.ext3: No medium found while trying to determine filesystem size. I get this: /dev/sdf is entire device, not just one partition! Proceed anyway? (y,n) y then mkfs.ext3: No medium found while trying to determine filesystem size
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> Crazyeagle  try partitioning it, first
[14:46] <ikonia> he can't partition it as the disk is screwed
[14:46] <Crazyeagle> MonkeyDust: ok how?
[14:46] <ikonia> he keeps going around on this loops
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> true
[14:47] <Crazyeagle> MonkeyDust: because disk utility won't do it gparted won't see it
[14:48] <aiten_44> Crazyeagle: try downloading the u3 removal tool from sandisk run it and see if that works
[14:48] <aiten_44> on your windows pc
[14:48] <lmat> I'm trying to run tune2fs, but the system doesn't recognize it as a command (nor man pages on it). I sudo apt-get install e2fsprogs but it says that that's already installed.
[14:48] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: I'll try
[14:48] <LogiM> hi, plesk has tried to run an auto-update and killed my mail server - i can't see any binary files for qmail
[14:49] <LogiM> how can i reinstall qmail manually so that my php mail() function works?
[14:49] <lmat> what the heck! I guess it works now.
[14:49] <ikonia> LogiM: whoaa what do you mean manually
[14:49] <SwedeMike> lmat: could be e2fsprogs
[14:49] <ikonia> LogiM: qmail has a very specific install process
[14:49] <lmat> SwedeMike: Thanks.
[14:49] <lmat> ikonia:something besides    ./configure && make && make install
[14:50] <ikonia> lmat: 1.) you should never do that with ANY software 2.) yes, very different
[14:51] <cropalato> Hi, i'm trying to use do-release-upgrade with my internal mirror. But when i get my precise.tar.gz form my internal server, the tool is using prerequists-sources.list to download some files (it is pointing to archive.ubuntu.com). In this file, there is a variable ${mirror}. How can i use it?
[14:53] <Geofff> Hi all, just wondering if there's a way to watch a folder and FTP files in it when to a server when they're saved?
[14:54] <reisio> Geofff: so many ways
[14:54] <Galaxor> Hi.  I can't apt-get install anything because it says linux-generic : Depends: linux-headers-generic (= <IP_ADDRESS>.51) but <IP_ADDRESS>.58 is to be installed
[14:54] <ikonia> Galaxor: do a sudo apt-get update to bring the local cache in sync
[14:55] <Geofff> reisio: Such as? :P
[14:55] <blazemore> Geofff: What's you're looking for is folder syncronisation - does it have to be FTP?
[14:56] <antivirtel> hi, is here someone who has expirience with avidemux2_cli?
[14:56] <Geofff> blazemore, Yeah - they're going up to a webserver that I only have FTP access to
[14:56] <blazemore> Geofff: The easiest thing to do would just be to script it to sync every 5 minutes or so
[14:57] <root> Hi every one!
[14:57] <Galaxor> ikonia: After apt-get update, I did apt-get -f install, like it suggested.  I got:  Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.2.0-48-generic_3.2.0-48.74_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[14:57] <ikonia> Galaxor: clear down the archives directory
[14:57] <Geofff> blazemore, Yeah that would be easiest, but I kinda need something a bit more responsive than that as I'm updating CSS files etc every 20 seconds or so
[14:57] <blazemore> Geofff: Anyway, "unison" is a name I've heard before - http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/
[14:57] <Galaxor> ikonia: Oh.  No space left on device!
[14:58] <philinux> Galaxor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoverLostDiskSpace
[14:58] <Galaxor> ikonia: It's only /boot that's full.
[14:58] <Galaxor> ikonia: I'll delete some old kernels.
[14:58] <reisio> Geofff: iwatch maybe
[14:58] <pauser> hi, how is it possible that javascript does not work properly in any browser under ubuntu. it shows me errors that should not. me and someone here took the same working project from git and it does not work for me :S .
[14:58] <blazemore> Geofff: Also here http://sina.salek.ws/content/how-mirrorsync-remote-ftp-folder-local-folder
[14:58] <ikonia> Galaxor: no
[14:58] <ikonia> Galaxor: delete them using the package manager
[14:58] <reisio> pauser: link
[14:59] <Galaxor> ikonia: That's what I meant, yes.  Thanks.
[14:59] <ikonia> pauser: it's not possible
[14:59] <ikonia> Galaxor: just checking
[14:59] <Yud_Zroc> Im using ubuntu 13.04 and my update manager popped up with an update(which I dont mind) I am wondering why Kubuntu updates are starting to show for the KDE
[14:59] <blazemore> pauser: Different browsers deal with javascript in entirely different ways, Ubuntu has nothing to do with it
[14:59] <pauser> reisio: its not open source, but its true what i said ! How do i solve the problem
[14:59] <ikonia> Yud_Zroc: what you've just said doesn't make sense
[14:59] <philinux> Yud_Zroc: I get same as I have k3b installed
[14:59] <reisio> pauser: it's going to be hard if you can't show anyone anything
[14:59] <reisio> pauser: start with #javascript
[15:00] <blazemore> Yud_Zroc: Do you mean, you are wondering why there are updates for KDE packages being shown, when you are not using Kubuntu?
[15:00] <Yud_Zroc> blazemore: correct
[15:00] <blazemore> Yud_Zroc: If you have ever installed a KDE application like k3b, it also installs a lot of requirements to allow KDE packages to run on Ubuntu
[15:00] <blazemore> Yud_Zroc: The package manager will continue to keep these requirements up-to-date
[15:00] <pauser> blazemore: i know but its not possible that the same project works in 4 other computers and for me it does not work in firefox,chrome,opera
[15:00] <blazemore> Yud_Zroc: It is nothing to worry about :)
[15:01] <blazemore> pauser: You're right
[15:01] <phretor> I've installed mysql-server on an machine with a ~250GB database in /var/lib/mysql from a previous installation. Is it normal that the first boot of the daemon takes a few hours to complete? Thanks.
[15:01] <Crazyeagle> aiten_44: here is the result in win7: u3_partition() failed: Failed reading device property 0x03: Header of property 0x0003 could not be read.