[05:30] <reisio> yagoo: yeah I almost mentioned you
[05:30] <phiscibe> ghostnik11: could the old program be called Rainlendar ro sunbird
[05:30] <yagoo> mwahaha
[05:30] <frull> people can copy my vid but dot modify my video
[05:30] <daniel__> phiscibe: sorry
[05:31] <daniel__> ^^
[05:31] <reisio> frull: they can do anything they like to it
[05:31] <reisio> frull: with enough knowledge
[05:31] <vantik> where is the channel for Ubuntu app developers?
[05:31] <reisio> frull: I can't say it's going to be that likely, though
[05:31] <reisio> I'm not aware of any popularity in ripping off tutorial videos...
[05:31] <reisio> vantik: what's an Ubuntu app?
[05:31] <arghx> reisio: you haven't seen well made tutorials like frull's then!
[05:31] <yagoo> daniel__, what happens when u do-> fdisk -l? (do u see 1 device or 2 devices related to the samsung galaxy?)
[05:31] <frull> reisio, that you mean no original vid on internet
[05:32] <reisio> arghx: maybe I haven't been to Indonesia :p
[05:32] <reisio> arghx: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/World_Map_Index_of_perception_of_corruption_2010.svg/800px-World_Map_Index_of_perception_of_corruption_2010.svg.png
[05:32] <phiscibe>      daniel__ no clue about the samsung with out an derror message
[05:32] <vantik> is this a basic channel for ubuntu users?
[05:32] <frull> arghx, what you mean brotha ?
[05:32] <yagoo> vantik, check the topic
[05:32] <reisio> vantik: uhuh
[05:33] <devinus> is creating an ext2 /boot partition still required in 11.10 if you want to use btrfs ?
[05:33] <phiscibe> vantik: yes more or less a supoort channel, with the support being provided by you
[05:33] <phiscibe> well me too
[05:33] <phiscibe> and him
[05:33] <reisio> devinus: by the installer?
[05:33] <The_BROS> How to change Empathy to Pidgin with build into panel?
[05:33] <reisio> devinus: dunno, it's not required in general
[05:33] <vantik> nevermind, thx
[05:33] <reisio> devinus: worst case you setup your partitions beforehand
[05:33] <ghostnik11> almoxarife1, well anyway its too late i am already uninstalled thunderbird, it was okay, reisio: i just feel evolution is more versatile when it comes to integration with google calender and address book, just not as hot looking as other calender programs with all the nice graphical designs, phiscibe: no the calender in thunderbird is lighting, evolution programs calender is built in and not an add on like thunderbird's
[05:33] <devinus> reisio: by the installer yeah
[05:33] <JZApples> how do i import my email from evolution to thunderbird?  i can't find any good documentation online that isn't really old or doesn't work.
[05:34] <yagoo> devinus, i beleive its supported for the latest kernels.. but as for grub2? i have no clue.. (check grub2's doc-- maybe wikipedia)
[05:34] <daniel__> yagoo: 1
[05:34] <phiscibe> t hunder bird i thought does not have a calendar, it used a sunbird plugin called lightning
[05:34] <frull> arghx, reisio am need distribution all my vid tutorial (how used ubuntu for education) for free and am not need any body modify my tutorial of it, that am need make some vid authentication.
[05:34] <phiscibe> evolution is a mail client, but i think is has a calendar
[05:34] <yagoo> daniel__, u tried another port? (changed to another cable-- sometimes the problem is the cable is too long)
[05:35] <reisio> JZApples: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Importing_and_exporting_your_mail might help
[05:35] <frull> the content of authentication is 1. am used ubuntu for make vid 2. my pc name 3. copy right, 4 my location just that
[05:35] <arghx> frull: you may need whatever you want but you cannot prevent people from copying. bluray cost millions of dollars to make and there are tons of bluray rips for every single movie out there on the internet.
[05:35] <reisio> ghostnik11: it's a much more comprehensive application
[05:35] <reisio> thunderbird is extensible, but if there's not already an applet for what you want, I don't see a problem continuing to use Evolution
[05:35] <daniel__> yagoo: i seem to get the dbus error on one port and the could not lock device on the other
[05:36] <daniel__> let me try the third
[05:36] <JZApples> reisio, i already read through all that, the thunderbird import isn't detecting evolution
[05:36] <devinus> yagoo, yeah, wondering if it's supported for grub2
[05:36] <ghostnik11> jzapples: i think you have to first go to evolution and export then it should give you like a file thing that when you go to thunderbird and go to import you search on that file that represents your mail history in evolution
[05:36] <devinus> or if the installer even allows it...
[05:36] <reisio> JZApples: that's pretty sad
[05:36] <yagoo> devinus, i'm not sure if this project was absorbed into grub2.. maybe u'd like to ask on #grub (  https://launchpad.net/btrfs-grub2  )
[05:36] <daniel__> nope dbus
[05:36] <reisio> JZApples: I guess I'll mention to you also: you can keep using Evolution if you want to
[05:36] <JZApples> ghostnik11, by export, do you mean select all the email messages and goto File > Save as mbox...?
[05:36] <yagoo> devinus, possibly that site offers a btrfs module (yes grub2 has its own internal module system)
[05:37] <phiscibe> where is your mail  JZApples, that is where does the evolution program get it from , what email server
[05:37] <JZApples> reisio, i know you can, i've wanted to switch for awhile
[05:37] <phiscibe> if its a imap email server you dont need to export or import
[05:37] <reisio> devinus: GRUB2 boots btrfs just fine without a /boot/ partition
[05:37] <JZApples> reisio, wish they would have included thunderbird with 11.04
[05:37] <yagoo> reisio, thanks
[05:37] <reisio> JZApples: k
[05:37] <ghostnik11> jzapples: well are you using a major email provider like google? b/c if thats the case you might not have to import it to thunderbird and can just input your info and it will get mail off the server
[05:37] <JZApples> phiscibe, hotmail, and it deleted them all after it downloaded the first time
[05:38] <frull> yes arghx people can copying but can't modify my vid, am distribution for free am not need any body modify, modify my vid
[05:38] <devinus> reisio: damn...i should reinstall now then -.-
[05:38] <reisio> devinus: oh? :p
[05:38] <phiscibe> JZApples: if you log in to hotmail via a web interface are you messages still there?
[05:38] <devinus> okay be back in two hours!
[05:38] <JZApples> ghostnik11, i wish, i must have had evolution configured wrong the first time i got them off my hotmail account and it removed them all after it imported
[05:38] <reisio> devinus: 1min
[05:38] <JZApples> phiscibe, no.
[05:38] <almoxarife> phiscibe: yes
[05:38] <yagoo> devinus, btrfs looks like a fs i'd like to try.. it has snapshots and the sort..
[05:38] <reisio> devinus: you might want to make your first (/ ?) partition start a little farther in than usual
[05:38] <devinus> yagoo, yeah, i'm testing it out
[05:39] <phiscibe> JZApples: are you useing hot mail as a pop3 server?
[05:39] <devinus> reisio, interesting
[05:39] <reisio> devinus: GRUB2's core.img including btrfs support, IME, makes it quite large
[05:39] <reisio> like more than 13kB
[05:39] <yagoo> devinus, in fact one of the ext4 developers condones and says its a way forward for linux filesystems..
[05:39] <JZApples> phiscibe, ghostnik11, leave messages on server got unchecked
[05:39] <reisio> devinus: possibly varies by distro though, just something to keep in mind
[05:39] <jaybutts> my unity broke,how can i just get a normal taskbar and get rid of the stupid mac crap at the top ? :)
[05:39] <JZApples> phiscibe, yes pop3
[05:39] <devinus> okay i'll keep that in mind then
[05:39] <yagoo> devinus, so i believe its a very stable filesystem
[05:39] <reisio> it's not very stable
[05:40] <reisio> but it will be
[05:40] <yagoo> oh ok
[05:40] <ghostnik11> jzapples: wow, and there all gone
[05:40] <reisio> stable enough to play with now, though
[05:40] <devinus> it's super fast on my system
[05:40] <JZApples> ghostni
[05:40] <Stanley00> jaybutts: then, it's not normal unity ;)
[05:40] <reisio> I wouldn't fill it with your only copies of your favorite files
[05:40] <JZApples> ghostnik11, yup it was a major bummer at the time
[05:40] <BlackWeb> Does anyone know of a program that can mount .daa format
[05:40] <devinus> i just have a 2TB hdd
[05:40] <reisio> but I wouldn't do that with any FS
[05:40] <phiscibe> JZApples: ok then they are gone, but you might can send hotmail a message and they can restore them, its not uncommon, next SWITCH TO  IMAP  as the protocol then any client you use, will see you data and not delete it, you can use evoluiton thunder bird outlook claws all the same time
[05:40] <yagoo> BlackWeb, poweriso makes a linux mount tool or maybe module..
[05:40] <reisio> BlackWeb: convert with daa2iso first
[05:41] <yagoo> BlackWeb, yah.. and that too (if the converter doesn't do the job 100%)
[05:41]  * yagoo hates proprietary compressions
[05:41] <reisio> agreed
[05:41] <BlackWeb> alright, ya checking to see what would be the best way to do it, right now then moved the file to a Network windows machine used poweriso to convert to iso, but I'll look into poweriso for linux
[05:42] <BlackWeb> Thanks guys :)
[05:42] <yagoo> BlackWeb, np
[05:42] <reisio> BlackWeb: apt-get install daa2iso :p
[05:42] <BlackWeb> :)
[05:43] <JZApples> phiscibe, i still have them setup with evolution.  i want to move that data into thunderbird.  what do you mean switch to imap?
[05:43] <yagoo> anyone here use xar instead of tar?
[05:43] <phiscibe> OOHH JZApples i thought they were totaly wiped
[05:43] <reisio> yagoo: why would anyone
[05:44] <yagoo> dunno.. but i read a while xar is the way to go from some folks..
[05:44] <JZApples> phiscibe, no, luckily i still have them on my computer, but want to ensure that they don't get removed
[05:44] <yagoo> (i read about it on wikipedia)
[05:44] <yagoo> (and fiddled around with it-- the syntax is much simpler than tar)
[05:44] <reisio> tar's syntax is already pretty simple
[05:45] <reisio> -c, -t, -x, that's the same as tar
[05:45] <JZApples> phiscibe, and i'd rather use thunderbird
[05:46] <yagoo> strange it's not in ubuntu when i searched it-- i believe i had it on debian..
[05:46] <yagoo> nways..
[05:46] <almoxarife> is there a gui for 'tar' file's?
[05:46] <daniel__> any more ideas on my usb connection error? select another viewer and try again, dbus error, could not lock device
[05:46] <reisio> almoxarife: yes, nautilus has built in support I'm sure
[05:47] <hansg01> help me restore grub
[05:47] <reisio> nautilus/gnome
[05:47] <freeride> yeah, i'm here again
[05:47] <reisio> so you are
[05:47] <yagoo> not sure.. i believe u can omit the options when creating one.. but nways...
[05:47] <yagoo> (did it a while ago)
[05:48] <reisio> it looks sort of like man vs info
[05:48] <reisio> I just don't use info, man already does what I need
[05:48] <yagoo> hansg01, u must of done something totally wrong if u broke grub.. why u break it man?
[05:48] <yagoo> lol
[05:49] <yagoo> almostroot, ark is one gui..
[05:49] <yagoo> almoxarife, ^.
[05:49] <Calinou> since I moved my files from a external HDD to my home here, I'm not the owner of them anymore
[05:49] <Calinou> how can I make myself owner of them?
[05:49] <daniel__> nvm, just have to set it in usb storage mode
[05:49] <daniel__> not sure why
[05:49] <reisio> Calinou: should've used cp -p or cp -a
[05:49]  * yagoo says to find software onthe net for linux-- google: "List of <software type> site:wikipedia.org"
[05:49] <reisio> Calinou: but, chown can fix it
[05:50] <Calinou> used a GUI -_-
[05:50] <Calinou> ok
[05:50]  * yagoo eg: List of archivers for linux site:wikipedia.org
[05:50] <Calinou> how to fix it using chown?
[05:50] <reisio> Calinou: that'll bone you every time :p
[05:50] <almoxarife> Calinou: use nautilus to change the permissions, save yourself the hassle
[05:50] <Calinou> owner is root
[05:50] <reisio> Calinou: sudo chown -R user:user path/to/dir/
[05:50] <Calinou> "you are not the owner"
[05:50] <Calinou> ok
[05:50] <hansg01> yagoo: i dnt knw why i did this i mean i regret
[05:50] <Calinou> user:user = calinou:calinou?
[05:51] <Calinou> since my username is calinou
[05:51] <reisio> Calinou: yes
[05:51] <Calinou> ok
[05:51] <FloodBot1> Calinou: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:51] <reisio> Calinou: ls ~/ to see what your ordinary user files' user:group perms are
[05:51] <hansg01> yagoo: nw is there ne way to get back the grub menu
[05:51] <almoxarife> Calinou: there is a extention to allow you to work in nautilus as root, so root changes the permissions to you ? too easy?
[05:51] <yagoo> hansg01, you have to explain what you did to break it, so that one has an idea what to do
[05:51] <Calinou> oh
[05:51] <kamilnadeem> Peace Be With You All
[05:52] <kamilnadeem> is there a way to install Ubuntu 11.10 but not grub
[05:52] <danno> Question: Where is the grub by default /dev/sda or /dev/sda1
[05:52] <danno> ?
[05:52] <arghx> danno: sda
[05:52] <danno> thanks arghx
[05:52] <Calinou> done
[05:52] <kamilnadeem> I have installed chakra and it has burg , I want to use that only
[05:52] <Calinou> now the owner thanks :)
[05:52] <freeride> danno ususaly dev/sda
[05:52] <ghostnik11> if i use imap+/imapx over imap, will imap+ match what ever i do to my email in my client be recorded on my email server at google
[05:52] <hansg01> i was using ubuntu bootloader then i installed fedora and nw no boot menu and fedora boots directly
[05:53] <yagoo> kamilnadeem, if u dont install grub, u wont be able to BOOT UBUNTU
[05:53] <reisio> kamilnadeem: the installer should give you the option to not install GRUB
[05:53] <danno> thanks freeride.
[05:53] <reisio> hansg01: you'll want to edit Fedora's GRUB config, then
[05:53] <kamilnadeem> yagoo not so , I will update burg from chakra and ubuntu will come up
[05:53] <yagoo> kamilnadeem, u can install grub in linux's partition if u want to keep ur other primary bootloader
[05:53] <danno> take it easy freeride. Ha. You probably get that all the time
[05:53] <freeride> danno or if you have more than 1 hard disk it can be /dev/sda /dev/sdb/
[05:53] <reisio> hansg01: or re-install GRUB to the MBR to point at Ubuntu's GRUB config (and edit it to add Fedora)
[05:53] <reisio> hansg01: but why are you even dual booting with Linux
[05:54] <danno> freeride: no it was just the one drive on a Lemur Thin from Sys76
[05:54] <hansg01> reisio: haan how to reinstall grub i thnks thats easy or edit fedora grub
[05:54] <danno> freeride: just had a brain fart. I didn't want to select the wrong one.
[05:54] <freeride> danno just trying to help
[05:54] <kamilnadeem> I have 3 distro, currenlty on my 160gb hd. Bodhi Linux and pardus on primary partition and chakra on logical
[05:54] <kamilnadeem> will remove pardus
[05:55] <jaybutts> how do i make the theme blue instead of orange
[05:55] <danno> freeride: I appreciate it too! ;) Without good people like you helping me out, I'd have hours more work.
[05:55] <yagoo> kamilnadeem, and u will install ubuntu rriiiiiggghhttt ?
[05:55] <reisio> hansg01: probably /boot/grub/grub.conf
[05:55] <freeride> can anyone help me with folders permission?
[05:55] <yagoo> !ask
[05:55] <jaybutts> yep chmod -R 777 *
[05:55] <Calinou> jaybutts: NO
[05:56] <jaybutts> lol
[05:56] <Calinou> THAT KILLED MY SYSTEM LAST CASE
[05:56] <kamilnadeem> yes yagoo I have Ubuntu 11.10 on my main 1tb hg just want to install on the 160gb hd to try out gnome shell
[05:56] <Calinou> SO DO NOT DO IT
[05:56] <yagoo> jaybutts, not good practice.
[05:56] <FloodBot1> Calinou: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:56] <Calinou> (sorry for caps, felt that was really needed)
[05:56] <freeride> ;D yeah
[05:56] <reisio> floodbot seems a little sensitive
[05:56] <yagoo> kamilnadeem, if u like to try out many different distros.. and then delete them soon after.. i simply use vmware or virtualbox :)
[05:56] <Luci4n0> Calinou: you really did that on your system?
[05:57] <reisio> kamilnadeem: or better: kvm/virt-manager or virtualbox
[05:57] <hansg01> reisio:i got this file earlier too but how to edit this?
[05:57] <Goremaniaco> saludos desde mexico ;)
[05:57] <reisio> hansg01: with a text editor
[05:57] <Calinou> Luci4n0: on usr bin ys
[05:57] <Calinou> yes*
[05:57] <djthree> donde puedo buscar un canal en español?
[05:57] <Calinou> I'm a linux noob, trying to install libraries
[05:57] <Calinou> blame jdolan
[05:57] <Calinou> !es | djthree
[05:57] <hansg01> reisio:i mean what all to insert?
[05:57] <kamilnadeem> yagoo pardus is an excellent distro but archaic in comparision to chakra what will i do with 2 kde distro
[05:57] <Luci4n0> Calinou: :)
[05:57] <reisio> hansg01: ah
[05:58] <jaybutts> do this and you never have permission problem again: cd / && chown -R 1000.1000 * && chmod 777 *
[05:58] <danno> My Ubuntu Oneric install got hosed earlier. I went into a prompt, did a sudo apt-get update, and told me to do a dpkg --reconfigure -a.  All is done and looks good, is a restart a good idea now?
[05:58] <llutz_> jaybutts: stop that nonsense
[05:58] <Calinou> eh... no.
[05:58] <hansg01> reisio:can i copy ubuntu one to this fedora one?
[05:58]  * yagoo thinks jaybutts is giving DANGEROUS ADVICE
[05:58]  * yagoo AND NEEDS TO STOP
[05:58] <Calinou> you shouldn't use chmod - think of it - those files are protected for a reason
[05:58] <reisio> hansg01: you know it might be simpler to re-install GRUB2 & tell it to look at your Ubuntu install's GRUB config than to figure out how to translate an Ubuntu GRUB2 config to a GRUB1 config :p
[05:58] <rama> Hello everyone. I m newbie to Ubuntu. anyone know how to create shotcuts on the dekstop ?
[05:58] <Calinou> the only legitimate reason to use it is to add +x to a executable program in your /home
[05:58] <kamilnadeem> use rescutax
[05:58] <reisio> hansg01: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:58] <kamilnadeem> excellent option for recovering grub
[05:59] <reisio> rama: right-click?
[05:59] <jaybutts> well...and also 666 is sign of the devil so I go with 7's
[05:59] <Calinou> rama: just move the icons?
[05:59] <hansg01> reisio: i too thought reinstalling will be easier
[05:59] <duanzhang1314> hh
[05:59] <Luci4n0> use sudo for files that are not yours .. editing that is
[05:59] <rama> Hi resisio. thanks. I tried that, but didn't work in 11.1 version
[05:59] <reisio> it's only easier because the config syntax between GRUB1 and GRUB2 is massively different
[05:59] <KingSphinx> Got my font problem fixed; all I needed to do was reinstall the Cantarell font and GNOME Shell. Now if only I knew why Ubuntu Software Center won't prompt for my password...
[05:59] <danno> Repeat: My Ubuntu Oneric install got hosed earlier. I went into a prompt, did a sudo apt-get update, and told me to do a dpkg --reconfigure -a.  All is done and looks good, is a restart a good idea now?
[06:00] <reisio> danno: seems like a decent enough iea
[06:00] <reisio> idea*
[06:00] <ashok_shetty> i downloaded ubuntu 11.10 and saved it in USB drive ...now i want to install in my laptop can u plz tell me the procedure
[06:00] <danno> thx: reisio
[06:00] <reisio> danno: technically you only have to reboot for kernel updates, and even then not really
[06:00] <reisio> danno: but it _is_ a "simple" way to re-initiate parts of your system
[06:00] <Luci4n0> danno: if it looks good .. try it
[06:00] <reisio> ashok_shetty: did you copy it over, or did you image with unetbootin or usb-creator?
[06:01] <danno> thanks reisio, Luci4n0
[06:01] <reisio> ashok_shetty: because you need to do the latter
[06:01] <danno> looks like all is good
[06:01] <ex0> unetbootin is the best
[06:01] <ex0> IMO
[06:01] <reisio> works for me
[06:01] <ex0> controls multiple OS's
[06:02] <ashok_shetty> reisio: i just downloded it and copied to usb
[06:02] <ex0> usb-creator seems to be friendly with only select few os's mainly ubuntu...and ubuntu
[06:02] <reisio> ashok_shetty: okay, you're going to need to use unetbootin or the like to actually image it properly
[06:02] <tiox> Quick question: I already have Ubuntu installed, and for fear of stupidly overwriting the current installation, I came here to ask if it is possible to do a minimal install on a different device, like a USB flash drive.
[06:02] <alexiy> Good morning! I installed Xubuntu and accidentially made one kind of files (block device) in folder dev to always open by Abiword.   Should I do the update (and wait 5 hours for the upload), or create an Ubuntu Memstick and do it that way?
[06:02] <reisio> ashok_shetty: after that it's just like booting from a CD: put the usb stick in and make sure your BIOS can boot from it before the HD
[06:03] <reisio> tiox: what for?
[06:03] <yagoo> tiox, yah.. but don't install grub onto ur other internal drive.. u install grub to ur flash device..
[06:03] <tiox> Alex: Choose Open With for the file you are choosing, then it will show the recommended program, right click on it and choose to forget association.
[06:03] <anon_user> ashok_shetty, on the download page: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[06:03] <Luci4n0> danno: which version is on that one?
[06:03] <reisio> danno: it shouldn't take five hours...
[06:03] <anon_user> step 2
[06:03] <ashok_shetty> reisio: what is unetbootin
[06:03] <tiox> reisio: Just for fun, really, but it'd come in handy as an emergency drive.
[06:03] <reisio> ashok_shetty: it's a program, for putting live "CD" images onto USB sticks
[06:04] <yagoo> tiox, and if u do use usb.. edit /etc/fstab and grub kernel bootlines to use "UUID"****
[06:04] <eruditehermit> hey, I just tried upgrading and it failed part way through. How do I make sure everything is working?
[06:04] <reisio> tiox: wouldn't putting the live image on a USB stick suffice?
[06:04] <llutz_> weren't ubuntu-iso supposed to be hybrid-iso beginning from oneiric? those can just be written to usb-sticks using cat or dd
[06:04] <reisio> Rudyard_Smith
[06:04] <arghx> eruditehermit: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:04] <tiox> You know, that's true. But I want to be able to keep settings persistiant.
[06:05] <tiox> persistent*
[06:05] <reisio> llutz_: you tell me
[06:05] <yagoo> llutz, is there a doc for that?
[06:05] <eruditehermit> arghx, that seems to be happy. Can I assume everything is ok then?
[06:05] <reisio> tiox: seems like a waste of time
[06:05] <reisio> tiox: unetbootin can make a persistent storage area, though, FWIW
[06:05]  * tiox shrugs
[06:06] <reisio> you know you can just tar up the system and store it away for a rainy day
[06:06] <ashok_shetty> reisio:i saved it in my pen drive its not booting while resrarting thr system
[06:06] <deusr> Guys, have just upgraded my netbook LG X140 a sister, was with ubuntu 4.11 and upgraded to 11.10. When I boot from the USB stick to install the new version, wireless connected, once installed, does not connect at all, he did not try to connect. It is this card: RTL8191SEvB
[06:06] <ashok_shetty> reisio:restarting
[06:06] <arghx> yes, oneiric is a hybrid image: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes?action=show&redirect=OneiricOcelot%2FTechnicalOverview#Hybrid_CD.2BAC8-USB_images_supported
[06:06] <reisio> ashok_shetty: try using unetbootin
[06:06] <ashok_shetty> reisio: wr can i find it
[06:06] <KingSphinx> Repeat: Got my font problem fixed; all I needed to do was reinstall the Cantarell font and GNOME Shell. Now if only I knew why Ubuntu Software Center won't prompt for my password...
[06:06] <arghx> eruditehermit: no. it depends on the actual error you got
[06:07] <llutz_> reisio: yagoo http://goo.gl/PrTxf
[06:07] <reisio> deusr: run lsmod and/or lspci -k from the live envo and copy the driver info
[06:07] <paul_> i has a question guys :P i have the nvidia driver but my audio isn't working :P i'm using HDMI audio in fact ubuntu doesn't show anything under the audio settings but alsamixer has my card
[06:07] <yagoo> llutz, is there a doc saying i can simply cat an .iso to the whole /dev/<usbdevice> somewhere?
[06:07] <arghx> eruditehermit: what kernel do you currently run?
[06:07] <freeride> help me with folder permissions. I've got a folder user www group www-data. I belong to group www-data, folder has write permission for group, but i can not create a foleder in it. Why?
[06:07] <reisio> ashok_shetty: sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[06:07] <eruditehermit> arghx, flashplugin-downloader failed
[06:07] <reisio> paul_: sure the cable supports it?
[06:07] <arghx> eruditehermit: that's a very minor issue
[06:07] <yagoo> freeride, what's this, webdav?
[06:07] <paul_> yeah it was working fine on Arch
[06:07] <VxQe> Hi, where does empathy store it's account info?
[06:07] <reisio> its*
[06:08] <ex0> what does the parent folders properties have..?
[06:08] <eruditehermit> arghx, i know but it stopped the whole process. I'm not sure if it needed to do things after installing packages
[06:08] <alexiy> I right click on it but there is no "forget association", only "Remove launcher" and it's unavailable.
[06:08] <reisio> VxQe: probably in ~/.empathy or ~/.config/empathy/
[06:08] <llutz_> yagoo: if they really make hybrid-iso, you just "sudo cat foo.iso >/dev/sdX"
[06:08] <VxQe> Niether of those exist, resiio
[06:08] <eruditehermit> arghx, or if it didn't install some packages because it was interrupted
[06:08] <ashok_shetty>  reisio: cud not find the package is the error
[06:08] <anon_user> ashok_shetty, click the show me how button (step 2) here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download.  It details the procedure
[06:08] <reisio> VxQe: find ~/ -iname '*empathy*'
[06:08] <freeride> s mode +i freerid
[06:08] <freeride> help me with folder permissions. I've got a folder user www group www-data. I belong to group www-data, folder has write permission for group, but i can not create a foleder in it. Why?
[06:09] <VxQe> reisio, did that.
[06:09] <reisio> ashok_shetty: what os/distro are you using?
[06:09] <jamil_1> hi all, network manager is not working
[06:09] <yagoo> freeride, it's probably not even a folder permission.. maybe it's ur apache+itmodules setup
[06:09] <jamil_1> I have not internet connection
[06:09] <reisio> VxQe: ~/.mission-control/accounts/accounts.cfg
[06:09] <VxQe> Thank you.
[06:09] <reisio> VxQe: probably a grep -ir empathy ~/.* would've found it
[06:10] <paul_> if i put aplay -D plughw:2,7 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav in terminal it plays the audio but i can't figure out how to get ubuntu 11.10 to use that as my default audio card
[06:10] <deusr> reisio, http://pastebin.com/92LZSFCS
[06:10] <yagoo> jamil_1, u do have internet silly man! Look at you!!
[06:10] <yagoo> LOL
[06:10] <reisio> love this ~/.completely-unrelated-name trend :p
[06:10] <VxQe> reisio, thanks I'll try that next time if I remember.
[06:10] <ashok_shetty> reisio: its ubuntu 9.10
[06:10] <jamil_1> yagoo: hehe obviously I have internet on windows
[06:10] <reisio> deusr: "Kernel driver in use: rtl8192se"
[06:11] <reisio> deusr: make sure that's loaded on the installed system
[06:11] <jamil_1> yagoo: its not working on another pc
[06:11] <ashok_shetty> resio: now i want to upgrade it to 11.10
[06:11] <yagoo> jamil_1, and that other pc is on WINDOWS? LOL silly man!! Tell us the problem..
[06:11] <yagoo> jamil_1, does ifconfig -a .. work?
[06:11] <reisio> ashok_shetty: check for usb-creator, then
[06:12]  * yagoo will bb in a few min
[06:12] <boritek> hello. After upgrade I have metacity instead of compiz. After compiz --replace I have compiz but with 2 unity panel. How can I fix this??
[06:12] <jamil_1> yagoo: upgraded to 11.10 and not network connection
[06:12] <boritek> hello. After upgrade I have metacity instead of compiz. After compiz --replace I have compiz but with 2 unity side-panel. How can I fix this??
[06:12] <ashok_shetty> reisio: how to
[06:12] <jamil_1> *no
[06:12] <reisio> ashok_shetty: sudo apt-get install usb-creator
[06:12] <deusr> reisio, yes, it is :/ And as I said, when I boot with ubuntu 11.10 by stick, the wireless to connect, not connected.
[06:12] <reisio> deusr: the what?
[06:13] <freeride> help me with folder permissions. I've got a folder user www group www-data. I belong to group www-data, folder has write permission for group, but i can not create a foleder in it. Why?
[06:13] <reisio> freeride: because that's for root to decide
[06:13] <jamil_1> yagoo: and I have lot of entries in kern.log saying init: network-manager main process terminated with status 127
[06:13] <deusr> reisio, is installed and active but
[06:13] <ashok_shetty> reisio: cud not find the package is the error
[06:14] <freeride> reisio decide what?
[06:14] <Luci4n0> freeride: does a sudo in front of your mkdir not help?
[06:14] <reisio> ashok_shetty: usb-creator-gtk
[06:14] <homeslice-pdx> okay, I'm on 11.10 and it seems a little rough this time but I made it
[06:14] <deusr> reisio, said that when I plug the USB stick with Ubuntu 11.10 wireless works.
[06:14] <freeride> Luci4n0 well it does byt it does not make sens
[06:14] <reisio> freeride: whether a dir should be made there
[06:14] <Luci4n0> freeride: i agree
[06:14] <reisio> deusr: yes you said already
[06:15] <jamil_1> yagoo: ifconfig -a show eth0 and lo
[06:15] <freeride> folder has write permissions for group users. why user from this froup cannot change it?
[06:15] <jamil_1> yagoo: but I have wireless here
[06:15] <deusr> reisio, any ideas?
[06:15] <ashok_shetty> reisio: hey sorry got it usb creato
[06:15] <ashok_shetty> reisio: its installing
[06:16] <chandan> hi everybody. how do I create a .pem file from ppm file ?
[06:16] <boritek> hello. After upgrade I have metacity instead of compiz. After compiz --replace I have compiz but with 2 unity side-panel. How can I fix this??
[06:16] <reisio> chandan: ppm?
[06:17] <yagoo> jamil_1, so you know the SSID of your ap ?
[06:17] <chandan> yes .ppm file reisio
[06:17] <freeride> any more ideas for folderpermissions?
[06:17] <llutz_> freeride: does "id" list "www-data" for you? did you re-login after adding you to that group?
[06:17] <reisio> chandan: what is a ppm file
[06:17] <jamil_1> yagoo: name of the connection ?
[06:17] <jamil_1> yagoo: I guess so
[06:17] <freeride> llutz_ yes it does,. when i type id it lists in my groups
[06:18] <yagoo> jamil_1, is ur ap already set up?
[06:18] <chandan> reisio, it is the file sent to me by the administrator to me which he says helps in login to aws console
[06:18] <Luci4n0> freeride: weird
[06:18] <reisio> chandan: ah
[06:18] <chandan> but the console is asking .pem file. eg: ssh -i somesthing.pem placetoconnect.com reisio
[06:18] <jamil_1> yagoo: ap ?
[06:18] <llutz_> freeride: what are the permissions of the parent-dir you try to create a new dir in? ls -ld path/dir
[06:18] <freeride> llutz_ well i didnt relogin after adding myself to this group
[06:19] <yagoo> jamil_1, what kind of wireless device is this?
[06:19] <freeride> i'll try
[06:19] <yagoo> jamil_1, wifi, 3g ?
[06:19] <llutz_> freeride: re-login is required
[06:19] <chandan> reisio, I know that .pem file can be extracted from .ppm file.. but  i don't know how
[06:19] <jamil_1> yagoo: wifi modem
[06:19] <reisio> chandan: https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?threadID=63739
[06:19] <yagoo> jamil_1, wifi modem?
[06:19] <freeride> llutz_ parent dir has write permission for group
[06:19] <yagoo> jamil_1, and where is it connecting to? (people don't say wifi modem.. they simply say wifi)
[06:20] <llutz_> freeride: logout, login, try again pls
[06:20] <freeride> llutz_  drwxrwxr-x
[06:20] <freeride> llutz_ ok. thanks
[06:20] <whereami> I just upgraded to oneiric... why does the workspace keep switching? it seems to be in response to moving my mouse in some way near the edge of the screen, but I can't do it on purpose.
[06:20] <jamil_1> yagoo: ok wifi...
[06:20] <chandan> reisio, that doesn't help :(
[06:20] <reisio> whereami: if you move it fast into a corner?
[06:20] <Dagmar> Just a quick sanity check...  Ubuntu didn't start using a /run directory did it?
[06:21] <reisio> chandan: it's an AWS issue
[06:21] <jamil_1> yagoo: to my isp
[06:21] <Dagmar> My netbook seems to have suddenly developed one during the upgrade
[06:21] <hansg01> reisio: thanx man boot-repair worked for me too :)
[06:21] <chandan> reisio, hmm
[06:21] <jamil_1> yagoo: I cannot connect from my pc to the modem
[06:21] <reisio> hansg01: gj
[06:21] <Lafiir> Did GStreamer change in 11.10? I can no longer view .mp4 files in Totem or get thumbnails in Nautilus.
[06:21] <Dagmar> It looks like something put everything in /run instead of /var/run, I just wanna make sure I shouold be checking for dupes
[06:21] <hansg01> reisio: got the ubuntu bootloader back phew!
[06:21] <yagoo> jamil_1, u need to buy a home router .. like wireless linksys to sit between ur isp and your home network
[06:21] <hansg01> reisio: learnt something new
[06:21] <reisio> Lafiir: maybe you have to reinstall the restricted stuff?
[06:22] <whereami> reisio, doesn't seem to make a difference.
[06:22] <reisio> hansg01: and it automagically listed Fedora, right?
[06:22] <jamil_1> yagoo: I do have one from my isp
[06:22] <ubuntu_> does anyone know how to upgrade 11.04 to 11.10 via usbstick?
[06:22] <reisio> whereami: what?
[06:22] <Lafiir> reisio: will try that
[06:22] <Xexter> i'm using 10.04 and my keyboard and touchpad are locked up on my netbook.  I can plug an external mouse in and it works, but the keyboard is still locked up. i've tried using the scr lk and the num lk buttons, but nothing unlocks?  any suggestions, anyone?
[06:22] <hansg01> reisio: yeah
[06:22] <yagoo> jamil_1, you need to setup the wifi server...
[06:22] <reisio> good, good
[06:22] <whereami> reisio, moving the mouse into a corner.
[06:22] <yagoo> jamil_1, on that box..
[06:22] <hansg01> ubuntu_: u hv to iso?
[06:22] <homeslice-pdx> anyone out there using empathy IRC? I can't get the "..has joined.." messages to stop
[06:22] <reisio> whereami: oh right
[06:22] <reisio> whereami: I forget what it is, but it's documented
[06:22] <reisio> whereami: maybe the tour on ubuntu.com will explain it
[06:22] <Whiskey> its it possible to install ubuntu desktop whitout any programs?
[06:22] <Whiskey> just a "clean" installation
[06:23] <Aleo> hi again
[06:23] <jamil_1> yagoo: yes
[06:23] <hansg01> ubuntu_: u hv to downlaod packages that will upgrade
[06:23] <reisio> Whiskey: you can uninstall things as you desire
[06:23] <Dagmar> Ubuntu_: I suggest something other than unetbootin.  It seems to get very upset about that one and makes ubuiqity crash a lot right now
[06:23] <ubuntu_> ok
[06:23] <Whiskey> Sounds more easy to have it uninstalled from start
[06:23] <jamil_1> yagoo: why do I need the wifi server ?
[06:23] <hansg01> ubuntu_: or else from usb stick u will lose ur data on 11.04
[06:23] <tensorpudding> what do you mean "without any programs"
[06:23] <Dagmar> hansg01: Since when
[06:23] <tensorpudding> it wouldn't be a desktop if there weren't any
[06:23] <reisio> Whiskey: it would be, if anyone distributed such a thing
[06:23] <yagoo> jamil_1, to setup security.. otherwise anyone can connect to it..
[06:23] <whereami> second question: I have focus-follows-mouse from ages ago. clearly ubuntu doesn't give an expletive about this mode anymore, but I also can't see any way to turn it off.
[06:23] <jamil_1> yagoo: my router is the server no ?
[06:23] <Dagmar> It presents an option to upgrade from the install menu.
[06:23] <paul_> ok if i type aplay -l i see the card i use but ubuntu isn't using it i think its using the correct card but not the correct device number.  How do i change the audio card in ubuntu 11.10
[06:23] <Dagmar> It's pretty clear about saying it's not going to destroy data
[06:23] <Whiskey> Like Firefox, Office Package alll programs that comes whit it
[06:24] <yagoo> jamil_1, choose wpa2 for the encryption
[06:24] <ubuntu_> ok... so is there a way to use the live stick to push the upgrade to the host computer?
[06:24] <jamil_1> yagoo: from where ?
[06:24] <llutz_> !mini |  Whiskey use this to setup a system of your choice
[06:24] <reisio> whereami: depends on the WM, though I think I have seend 3rd party scripts for making it work with any generic WM
[06:24] <yagoo> jamil_1, u have to set it up first. By default wifi server is not on.
[06:24] <whereami> i'm just using the default WM.
[06:24] <freeride> llutz_ it helped me. Thanks again!
[06:24] <reisio> whereami: so either it's changed or your config has
[06:24] <yagoo> jamil_1, u have to consult with your model's instructions on how to do that..
[06:25] <ubuntu_> what happened is something crashed when i was upgrading, so i have a live stick which I am on now,  and just trying to upgrade instead of losing everything
[06:25] <hansg01> Dagmar: i said if u install ubuntu 11.10 frm usb stick den ur data will be lost
[06:25] <Dagmar> hansg01: I'm thinking you're incorrect.
[06:25] <Whiskey> Not sure that was what ment
[06:25] <whereami> reisio, what? your comments make no sense.
[06:25] <llutz_> freeride: note: when changing groups/users re-login always is required
[06:25] <rahul> I just installed ubuntu 11.10 and on boot am stuck with a black screen and cursor. Please please help
[06:25] <reisio> whereami: either the window manager has changed or your config for it has
[06:25] <Whiskey> Hoever i see if it works
[06:25] <Fooler> Hi
[06:25] <jamil_1> yagoo: but it was working before the upgrade
[06:26] <Dagmar> hansg01: I had to bail on it because unetbootin was doing something that made ubiquity crash which makes me a little nervous, but it gives you the option to _upgrade_ an existing 11.04 install
[06:26] <yagoo> jamil_1, what was working?
[06:26] <whereami> reisio, well, obviously the WM changed... I'm pretty sure I made that clear.
[06:26] <yagoo> jamil_1, u probably weren't connecting to your own internet.. lol
[06:26] <yagoo> jamil_1, u need to setup your own SSID on your wifi server..
[06:26] <reisio> whereami: I don't think so, but it's immaterial
[06:26] <jamil_1> yagoo: I dont understand......
[06:26] <yagoo> jamil_1, then assign ur ubuntu machine to that SSID.
[06:26] <yagoo> lol
[06:26] <Luci4n0> Dagmar: it should give you the option to upgrade your current ubuntu.
[06:26] <reisio> (to the solution)
[06:26] <rahul> I just installed ubuntu 11.10 and on boot am stuck with a black screen and cursor. Please please help
[06:26] <yagoo> jamil_1, dude u have alot of homework to do..
[06:26] <Dagmar> Luci4n0: Yes, I know.  It did.
[06:27] <reisio> yagoo: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
[06:27] <jamil_1> yagoo: it is a mess.....
[06:27] <Luci4n0> Dagmar: ok
[06:27] <yagoo> jamil_1, u were probalby using somebody else's wifi
[06:27] <Dagmar> rahul: Did it get through the first grub part and start booting?
[06:27] <jamil_1> yagoo: no no, I was authenticating to my router
[06:27] <ubuntu_> rahul: thats my problem too... well i was doing a upgrade from 11.04 - it stuck on black screen of death
[06:27] <user2011> hi..i have a question...first time to upgrade my xubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 by live cd....right now its stuck on restoring previously installed packages...its been an hour now....how long does this take? does it download all the packages again?
[06:28] <homeslice-pdx> man 11.10 seems buggy
[06:28] <yagoo> jamil_1, you sure? you tell me you don't know what the SSID is? ..
[06:28] <Luci4n0> rahul: installing 11.04 and then upgrade to 11.10 seems to work, it did so with my laptop which had the same issue you have now.
[06:28] <rahul> Dagmar: First grub part means? I was shown the different grub versions I have. I chose the first one.
[06:28] <yagoo> jamil_1, you should make the SSID unique and not use the maker's default..
[06:28] <Dagmar> rahul: Do you mean different _kernels_ to boot?
[06:28] <jamil_1> yagoo: becasue I configured it along time ago
[06:28] <yagoo> jamil_1, u might be acciddentally using somebody elses' router who didnt change the name either for the SSID
[06:28] <rahul> Luci4n0: Exactly, I just made a fresh install and damn!
[06:29] <yagoo> jamil_1, and who also didnt setup security..
[06:29] <Dagmar> rahul: If it got that far, boot again and when it gets to that point, hit 'e' and then take out any "quiet" or "splash" arguments from it.  That *should* let you see whatever the kernel is mad about when the kernel starts booting
[06:29] <rahul> Dagmar: Yes I guess, including the recovey one and previous versions
[06:29] <yagoo> jamil_1, setup the security part of the wifi server.. maybe your ISP did this for you..
[06:29] <Dagmar> rahul: The kernel chatter is hidden behind the graphics mode that kicked in probably
[06:29] <yagoo> jamil_1, u need to have the key at the very least..
[06:29] <oliver__> help
[06:29] <Aleo> help also
[06:29] <jamil_1> yagoo: even if I was using someone else's connection why isn't wrking just after the upgrade
[06:30] <rahul> Dagmar: Yes. But how to I save that one? I was thinking of adding noacpi or acpi=off
[06:30] <jamil_1> *after*
[06:30] <user2011> anyone can help me with my problem?
[06:30] <rahul> Dagmar: I dont know how to save it once am done editing
[06:30] <jamil_1> *upgrade*
[06:30] <Aleo> still can not set the icons size on the left dock bar, ubuntu last version
[06:30] <yagoo> jamil_1, you should get more help on #linux.. You really should setup your wifi first.
[06:30] <yagoo> jamil_1, then come back here once you setup your wifi..
[06:30] <Aleo> I would like them a bit smaller
[06:30] <yagoo> jamil_1, (wifi server)
[06:31] <jamil_1> yagoo: ok no problem
[06:31] <Dagmar> rahul: You don't want to save it.  You just want it to temporarily let you see why the thing is stopping.  That acpi thing you mentioned tho... Why do you want to do that?  I have a guess which means I would know what happened that stopped your booting
[06:31] <rahul> Dagmar: Ok am doing it. Wait. But once i remove quitet splash
[06:31] <rahul> Dagmar: What to do?
[06:32] <Dagmar> rahul: Somewhat recent kernels have been having serious problems with ASPM
[06:32] <user2011> yagoo how long does the restoring previously installed packages will take during upgrade?? does it download again all the packages?
[06:32] <Dagmar> rahul: Just remove those arguments from the line and hit esc ot ctrl-x... whatever it says on the screen there.  You dont' have to save the changes--they will be used to boot with this time around
[06:33] <rahul> Dagmar: esc will take me back to options. Clrt+x to boot.
[06:33] <Dagmar> rahul: If your problem is ASPM-related locking up, it'll be stopping during part of the PCI bus enumeration.  pcie_aspm=off is probably more like that you want if that's the case
[06:33] <os1ris> I know there are 1000 ppl asking questions but I am in need of some help. I am totally hosed. I went for the new upgrade to 11.10 and now I can not load into any version of ubuntu. I did the " install under windows " and I was wondering ... 1) can I fix the linux install to go either back to 11.04 or mount .disk file in windows.  Am teling u the output.
[06:33] <Dagmar> osiris: You can't burn the ISO to a CD or a thumbdrive?
[06:33] <yagoo> os1ris, i don't think wubi is ideal..
[06:33] <os1ris> help is super apreciated
[06:34] <os1ris> What iso ?
[06:34] <Dagmar> o.O
[06:34] <yagoo> os1ris, this other dude had exactly the same issue.. nobody here uses wubi..
[06:34] <os1ris> I have 11.04 burnt to a cd but not the new one.
[06:34]  * yagoo doesn't know why it's not reminded to folks-- wubi is not ideal
[06:34] <os1ris> Yea I know now it was mistake using wubi but it was laptop.
[06:34] <OceanEleven> Is there any good software for desktop clock, i'm using ubuntu 10.04 lucid
[06:35]  * yagoo treats wubi fine-- only as for checking out and nothing more..
[06:35] <os1ris> but can i either /mnt the .disk file or revert back to keep the data. Freezes on boot
[06:35] <os1ris> do NOT want to loose my data
[06:35] <Dagmar> osiris: You should probably go back and actually download the desktop iso and use that
[06:35] <yagoo> os1ris, nobody here uses wubi.. it's the sad truth..
[06:35] <yagoo> sorry :(
[06:35] <lauratika> i was having all day issues with compiz and windows decoration when set to "(any) & !(class=Opera)" so my browser when miximized wont show window decoarations but was not working then after compiz --replace finally work but now everytime i restart ubuntu 11.10 have to do compiz --replace is there a way to fix this?
[06:35] <rahul> Dagmar: Removed quite splash from it. Still the same. Same black screen with a blinking cursor
[06:35] <Dagmar> You're not in danger of losing your /home filesystem as long as you DO NOT PICK ANY options that mention formatting a disk
[06:35] <os1ris> yea I know that. but I am worried now for recovery of my data
[06:35] <yagoo> os1ris, ur data can be recovered..
[06:36] <yagoo> os1ris, um... i believe the loopback file is squashfs or something like that..
[06:36] <Dagmar> rahul: Maybe check the other VTs and/or try again taking out that vt_handoff thing as well.
[06:36] <Raven> did they take the "connect to server" out of the 11.10 release?
[06:36] <yagoo> os1ris, in order to access it.. u have to do a mount ntfs-3g, then a loopback mount against that linux loopbackfile
[06:36] <Dagmar> I'm not entirely sure wtf all in the kernel parameters is involved in modeswitch and what isn't but the worst that can happen is *haha* it won't boot
[06:37] <rahul> Dagmar: Am pretty noob on that. What is VT? How can I do that?
[06:37] <yagoo> os1ris, u might even be able to access it via vmware..
[06:37] <os1ris> well i am in windows now to see if I can mount it here so i can isntall proper...
[06:37] <Dagmar> The kernel should pretty much never just say _nothing_ when it boots
[06:37] <Dagmar> rahul: Oh... ctrl-f1, f2, through F7
[06:37] <avgeneral> question: how do I access a directory from an ftp:// location in terminal?
[06:37] <rahul> Dagmar: While am on that blank screen and cursor?
[06:38] <Aleo> still can not set the icons size on the left dock bar, ubuntu last version , anyone knows how ?
[06:38] <arghx> avgeneral: you can use "cd" like in a shell. "dir" and "ls" work too
[06:39] <avgeneral> arghx: first how do I cd to the ftp:// directory?
[06:39] <Raven> Question: did they take the "connect to server" out of the 11.10 release?
[06:39] <avgeneral> Raven: no, they relocated it
[06:40] <Dagmar> rahul: Yeah if the kernel's actually there that might make it flip the screens
[06:40] <avgeneral> Raven: open up file browser and it's under File menu
[06:40] <rmarshan> how do i get the evolution theme to work with the new ubuntu
[06:40] <Dagmar> avgeneral; You don't.
[06:40] <os1ris> anyone aware of a way I can mount a .disk file in windows to just do some data recovery so i can install proper ?
[06:40] <rahul> Dagmar: Gosh! Pulled out that vt_handoff as well. And am seeing a list DMAR : Unsuported  device scope rolling out.
[06:40] <lauratika> anyone?
[06:40] <Dagmar> Aha!  Now we're getting somewhere
[06:40] <Raven> avgeneral: would u be so kind as to let me know where they located it? i miss it
[06:41] <rmarshan> i have gone to configuration editor and try to force evolution theme being used
[06:41] <rmarshan> it is installed but it does not work anymore
[06:41] <yagoo> os1ris, i'm guessing.. did u try 7zip in windows to try to extract it to a subfolder?
[06:41] <Nyad> hi. I updated but my graphics won't turn on when I boot into my linux
[06:41] <Nyad> I have to manually start it
[06:41] <Dagmar> rahul: Oh wow.  Okay maybe you DO need to disable acpi.  Add the params you were talking about to the list of params this time around
[06:41] <avgeneral> Raven: http://www.wilhelser.com/my-blog/connect-to-server-ubuntu-natty/
[06:42] <Nyad> X server not automatically starting
[06:42] <Gunz4MiPPle> does lubuntu-desktop make any weird changes if i install it
[06:42] <Milossh> hmm, wasn't thunderbird announced as a default email client for 11.10?
[06:42] <Dagmar> rahul: OH!  Or! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/742296   <-- says to boot with intel_iommu=on
[06:42] <yagoo> os1ris, let me know if 7zip was able to extracted..
[06:43] <varunthacker> any one using 11.10 unity facing problems trying to drag drop a file from nautilus to gmail which is open in firefox. The launcher does not respond when i hover the selected files over it
[06:43] <os1ris> trying it now
[06:44] <rahul> Dagmar: noapic dint work. that link. Yes i had same system. Tm2
[06:44] <rahul> Dagmar: Checking
[06:44] <rahul> Dagmar: have*
[06:44] <Xexter> i plug in an external keyboard and  mouse and i can type on my laptop, but the built in touchpad and keyboard don't work.  any suggestions?
[06:44] <Xexter> it happened after i plugged in an external mouse
[06:45] <Xexter> the lockup, that is
[06:45] <Xexter> anyone have any suggestions on what to do?
[06:45] <n3glv> hi guys
[06:45] <wooter> XeroXer, does the keyboard work in bios
[06:45] <Nyad> hi n3glv
[06:45] <n3glv> hi Nyad
[06:45] <Xexter> wooter, yes it does
[06:45] <varunthacker> XeroXer:  need to install  synaptiks package from software center and restart. The touchpad problem should be gone after that
[06:46] <n3glv> so, on older ubuntu, I use classic desktop, I hate the vertical launcher mess because u can't minmise it
[06:46] <Dagmar> You're sure the keyboard stops working?
[06:46] <TechKnow> damn, i was trying to mac spoof in terminal, but it kinda screwed me over.
[06:46] <Xexter> the keyboard stops working
[06:46] <n3glv> someone said 11.10 I won't be able to do this anymore
[06:46] <Xexter> that, i'm sure of
[06:46] <os1ris> 7 DISK DID NOT WORK
[06:46] <os1ris> ssorry for the caps
[06:46] <varunthacker> Xexter: :  need to install  synaptiks package from software center and restart. The touchpad problem should be gone after that
[06:47] <n3glv> varunthacker: synaptics
[06:47] <n3glv> synaptic even
[06:47] <Xexter> think that will take care of the keyboard issue too?
[06:47] <rahul> Dagmar: Gosh! Before that changed the Virtualistion to off in BIOS. It started!!!
[06:47] <n3glv> sheesh, it's late
[06:47] <TechKnow> i typed ifconfig eth0 down.. then i typed ifconfig eth0 haddwr ff:00ff:00ff:00 .. and then ifconfig eth0 up.. but it didn't change my mac address
[06:47] <lauratika>  :(
[06:47] <TechKnow> ;/
[06:47] <rahul> Dagmar: Shall it keep it off. Or shall i make VT on and follow those steps?
[06:47] <Dagmar> hwaddr
[06:47] <n3glv> TechKnow: network manager is messing with your networking
[06:47] <varunthacker> n3glv: package name is synaptiks in the software center
[06:47] <gantrixx> I installed 11.10 and reverted to standard gnome, but I still get that unity tool bar at the top
[06:47] <TechKnow> yeah dag
[06:47] <gantrixx> how do I get rid of it
[06:47] <TechKnow> hwaddr
[06:47] <TechKnow> thats what i typed
[06:48] <Dagmar> rahul: Give it a shot.  Now you at least know how to make it go ahead and boot the second time around
[06:48] <Dagmar> TechKnow: Weird.  I've done it that way before
[06:48] <TechKnow> ok n3g.. so i just have to go to network manager and..
[06:48] <n3glv> TechKnow: might want to look for an app called macchanger
[06:48] <TechKnow> for windows?
[06:48] <TechKnow> n3g?
[06:48] <n3glv> TechKnow: no unix
[06:48] <os1ris> yagoo  -  did not mount
[06:48] <rahul> Dagmar: Yes. :D *happy* Btw what is this VT thingy? Does keeping it off any harm?
[06:48] <TechKnow> true
[06:49] <TechKnow> instead of trying to do everything manually
[06:49] <n3glv> it's slick
[06:49] <TechKnow> i run ubuntu through oracle vm
[06:49] <yagoo> os1ris, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[06:49] <TechKnow> its virtualised
[06:49] <n3glv> ewwwwwwwwwwww
[06:49] <n3glv> a winblows user
[06:49] <TechKnow> hahaha
[06:49] <n3glv> ick
[06:49] <TechKnow> i run everything through there!
[06:49] <gantrixx> It seems that I can't change the theme
[06:49] <TechKnow> backtrack, ubuntu
[06:49] <n3glv> I run the xp that I have under virtualbox
[06:49] <TechKnow> it's pretty cool
[06:49] <Raven> avgeneral: thanx. i still can't find it under the new release 11.10, not used to this unity. went from GNOME to unity and now having trouble navigating
[06:50] <Math^> hey guys, I'd like to learn an complex text editor, what should I pick, Vi or emacs...?
[06:50] <n3glv> I don't have a single pc that can boot M$
[06:50] <TechKnow> 10.10 have more support
[06:50] <Luci4n0> Math^: vim :)
[06:50] <TechKnow> i would stick with it
[06:50] <n3glv> Math^: I like joe
[06:50] <Math^> but vi is evil, stalman says :p
[06:50] <TechKnow> until 11.04 becomes more stable
[06:51] <n3glv> I have this distinct feeling that I'm going to hate 11.10
[06:51] <TechKnow> n3g you said you don't have a single pc that can boot m$?
[06:51] <yagoo> os1ris, u can setup a share on windows-- mount smb this share from vmware, then mount the loopbackfile, then mount the embedded filesystem type (maybe its ext2), then simply copy what's in the home to your /mnt/smb in vmware (and that /mnt/smb is your Windows which u should see under win explorer) << sounds nice doesn't it? lol
[06:51] <Luci4n0> Math^: vim is slightly easier.
[06:51] <yagoo> ^.
[06:51] <n3glv> TechKnow: no, no winders
[06:51] <Xexter> varunthacker, there's the kde-config-synaptiks package, that the one?
[06:51] <yagoo> that's a solution ..
[06:51] <Math^> Luci4n0, then emacs?
[06:51] <yagoo> not easy.. but possible..
[06:51] <TechKnow> nice haha
[06:51] <vadi01>  /msg NickServ identify multic
[06:51] <PurpleSmoke> lol
[06:51] <yagoo> os1ris, it's pita buddy...
[06:51] <n3glv> hey vadi01, might want to change that pw now
[06:52] <vadi01> n3 damn
[06:52] <Math^> I'm gonna log in as vadi01
[06:52] <TechKnow> well, if you're such an ubuntu fan did you hear the news about dennis ritchie?
[06:52] <Luci4n0> Math^: then vi
[06:52] <n3glv> lol
[06:52] <TechKnow> The Godfather of linux!
[06:52] <Math^> Luci4n0, ye ok, but vim is actually vi, right? but got more options and stuff?
[06:52] <TechKnow> dead
[06:52] <n3glv> ya
[06:52] <Luci4n0> Math^: yep
[06:52] <llutz_> TechKnow: linux != unix
[06:53] <TechKnow> um
[06:53] <TechKnow> im a nub
[06:53] <n3glv> kernihan and ritchie, 'the c programing language'
[06:53] <TechKnow> so i have no idea
[06:53] <n3glv> grandfather of C not linux
[06:53] <n3glv> or unix
[06:53] <TechKnow> oh whaa?
[06:53] <n3glv> well, had his fingers in unix
[06:53] <TechKnow> the article i read must have been wrong
[06:53] <TechKnow> oh thats why
[06:53] <SetiAmon> interesting.Music players work fine.I thought it was just flash but i tried that html5 thing and no audio there either
[06:53] <SetiAmon> so firefox audio doesn't work in 11.10?
[06:53] <Math^> Luci4n0, I know a bit how to use vi, I only can't get my cursor till the end of the text with [end], it stops at the end of the letter of the text
[06:53] <rahul> Can anyone help me on this? I have exactly the same problem. But solution didnt work https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/742296
[06:54] <llutz_> n3glv: one of the most important unix-programmers ever
[06:54] <notimik> hm is there some guard againt reg nicks similiar to nickserve or chanservre here?
[06:54] <n3glv> llutz_: true
[06:54] <Math^> Luci4n0,  so I'm always deleting that last letter when editing :p
[06:54] <Luci4n0> Math^: give vim a try then .. sudo apt-get install vim
[06:54] <Math^> I'll try vim :)
[06:54] <n3glv> joe is like a super nano
[06:55] <n3glv> aka wordstart
[06:55] <n3glv> wordstsar rather
[06:55] <yagoo> os1ris, u still there? u probably can even backup ur data using vmwaretools
[06:55] <rmarshan> hey peeps i want to use evolution theme with 11.10
[06:55] <llutz_> Math^: use "vimtutor"
[06:55] <SetiAmon> yeah can't stream mp3s on shoutcast either
[06:55] <SetiAmon> So who here has sound in firefox on 11.10
[06:55] <n3glv> oh well, off to see how the install went
[06:55] <rahul> Can anyone help me on this? I have exactly the same problem. But solution didnt work https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/742296
[06:55] <Math^> Luci4n0, lol you're right, this works a bit better for me
[06:55] <yagoo> os1ris, instead of using /mnt/smb.. it'll be less setup (but u still need to install vmwaretools in the vm)
[06:55] <Raven> ok I finally found my "connect-to-server" my morning just got better!!
[06:56] <devians> ive installed dhcp3-server on ubuntu server, but theres no service i can start or script in init.d. what the fuck?
[06:56] <Math^> llutz, what's that?
[06:56] <Luci4n0> Math^: dont forget the :wq when done :)
[06:56] <llutz_> Math^: a good start to  learn vim
[06:56] <n3glv> rahul: I doubdt you will make friends REPOSTING the question over and over
[06:56] <Flannel> devians: Please mind the language.  What version of Ubuntu is this?
[06:56] <Math^> ye, I always do :wq!
[06:56] <devians> 11.10
[06:56] <Math^> llutz, k thnx
[06:56] <rahul> n3glv: I doubt people even care to answer my queries.
[06:57] <Luci4n0> Math^: all good
[06:57] <Flannel> devians: The init script is isc-dhcp-server
[06:57] <ghostnik11> ns id king11
[06:58] <devians> Flannel ah. why on earth is that not anywhere when i google this stuff. sigh, thanks
[06:58] <notimik> hmm my sound level in 11.10 allways get set to max at every login.. any sugesstions?
[06:58] <rahul> n3glv: And only friend I will eventually make is ubottu . :P
[06:59] <ghostnik11> how do you get synaptic back b/c i need to download a specific thing that i know i won't be able to find in ubuntu software resources
[06:59] <genewitch> ar8152 not working upon 11.10 upgrade, fn-f3 wifi switch not lighting the wifi light, lspci shows device.
[06:59] <rahul> Am not able to boot unless I swtich off virtualization from bios.
[06:59] <Flannel> devians: I just checked the packages in the file.  It's likely not in google because it's brand new (there's a transitional package which you installed, and then the new real package)
[07:00] <alcy> folks, did a release-upgrade to 11.10, and it gets stuck at 'init: Handling mounting event'. If I use recovery mode, remount, and then resume normal boot, it works. Any suggestions ?
[07:01] <Math^> llutz, nice one, thnx again :)
[07:01] <miki> ghostnikll: synaptic package manager is on 11.10 if you have cairo-dock look in other
[07:01] <Flannel> devians: Er, the files in the package.  That makes more sense.
[07:02] <HeavyMetal> hi advcomp2019
[07:04] <brian> Hello
[07:04] <Luci4n0> hey
[07:04] <brian> I can install packages through xterm but cannot find them in synaptic manager
[07:04] <alcy> anyone ?
[07:04] <Name141> What does encrypt home"
[07:05] <Name141> er..
[07:05] <Name141> What does "encrypt home" actually do ?
[07:05] <brian> When I search for something in synaptic I get no results unless it's already installed.
[07:05] <rahul> Gosh! Ubuntu 11.10 has no Classic Ubuntu? Grrrr..
[07:05] <grendal-prime> hey guys anyone familiar with oftc-hybrid irc server?
[07:05] <puddles> problem with software centre!
[07:05] <genewitch> oops, it's a broadcomm device that stopped working.
[07:06] <genewitch> bcm4313 not working on 11.10 upgrade, the wifi switch isn't doing anything and it *is* showing up in lspci
[07:06] <notimik> can you trick xchat on ubuntu into using more than one dictionary for spell checking?
[07:06] <stiekema> disconnect
[07:06] <Max229> What package contains pcre_compile and pcre_exec?
[07:06] <advcomp2019> in 11.10, i removed the scrollbar overlay but some apps does not have the arrows for the scrollbar while other apps does have the arrows.. i was wondering if this is a bug or have i overlooked something
[07:06] <puddles> i have a package in the list but when i go to look at it, it says "software package *** not found in software sources" ?
[07:06] <puddles> can anyone help?
[07:07] <grendal-prime> rahul, ya...i got sick of that sort of crap i just use lts and deal with it
[07:07] <rymate1234> hai
[07:07] <genewitch> Max229: libpcre3-dev?
[07:07] <puddles> can someone pls help me?
[07:07] <rahul> Last time I had installed ATI FGLRX proprietary driver on 11.04. I never was able to boot again. Shall I try installing it in 11.10
[07:08] <rymate1234> i'm having a python problem
[07:08] <Max229> genwitch: Apparently I already have that installed. That is not it
[07:08] <Name141> grendal-prime I doubt the next LTS would have Gnome either?
[07:08] <rahul> rymate1234: Join #python
[07:08] <genewitch> Max229: pastebin wahtever is throwin the error i'll check it out
[07:08] <rymate1234> whats the device i need to mount in order from multiprocessing to work?
[07:08] <rymate1234> in python?
[07:08] <grendal-prime> ill bet they have that worked out by then
[07:08] <grendal-prime> thats the idea behind the lts
[07:08] <Max229> genewitch: http://pastebin.com/eFYd9sau
[07:09] <grendal-prime> ive neverhad an lts 2 lts upgrade brake anything
[07:09] <grendal-prime> now thats on servers
[07:10] <grendal-prime> but i have done 2 of them..on critical machines
[07:10] <grendal-prime> total of 40 mcahines 2times
[07:10] <genewitch> Max229: -llpcre
[07:10] <rahul> Last time I had installed ATI FGLRX proprietary driver on 11.04. I never was able to boot again. Shall I try installing it in 11.10
[07:10] <grendal-prime> and thats a pretty damn good record
[07:10] <genewitch> in the compile command
[07:10] <genewitch> Max229: -lpcre
[07:11] <Max229> genewitch: Synaptic says there so such thing
[07:11] <advcomp2019> the arrows missing in some apps is bugging me because i had a friend that did not like the scroll overlay
[07:12] <SetiAmon> ok i streamed audio threw banscee launched in firfox.
[07:12] <sonja_> i get black screen w large x in oneiric
[07:12] <sonja_> halp
[07:13] <aliandro> hi
[07:13] <aliandro> who can help me with installing a printer
[07:14] <aliandro> i am new with linux
[07:14] <brian> aliandro, which printer?
[07:14] <aliandro> i want to instal a brother cdp165c
[07:14] <aliandro> brother dcp-165c
[07:14] <Luci4n0> aliandro: usb? network?
[07:14] <brian> If I remember correctly, Brother is not supportive of Linux and don't make drivers.
[07:14] <aliandro> usb
[07:15] <aliandro> they do
[07:15] <aliandro> they got drivers for linux but i dunno how it works lol
[07:15] <Luci4n0> aliandro: which ubuntu?
[07:15] <sonja__> help i get black screen with large x cursor in oneiric
[07:15] <aliandro> the latest
[07:15] <aliandro> i downloaded this platform yesterday
[07:16] <brian> aliandro, did you look in synaptic manager for your printer?
[07:16] <aliandro> yea i tryed that but it dont work
[07:16] <Luci4n0> aliandro: click the logo and search for printing
[07:16] <aliandro> yea i did it say it ready but it dont work with that software
[07:16] <Luci4n0> aliandro: then click add .. and probably your printer is already in there ..
[07:17] <aliandro> i did these stebs its not working
[07:17] <Luci4n0> aliandro: its connected and online?
[07:17] <aliandro> yes
[07:17] <aliandro> but it dont print anything
[07:17] <aliandro> i say print test page
[07:18] <aliandro> but hey dont do it
[07:18] <trijntje> Hi all, how can I make sure I upgraded from beta to the release? There are not updates, and there havent been any since oneiric was released
[07:18] <Henriquez> hello everyone. Does anyone know if ubuntu 11.10 has problems with audio/video the playback seems to be x2 with flash video video in vlc and totem and audio in audacious
[07:18] <sagaci> what's the sure way to kill all instances of networkmanager?
[07:18] <Luci4n0> aliandro: did you use a driver already in ubuntu? or installed a downloaded one
[07:18] <sagaci> need to to debug my 3G card
[07:18] <aliandro> i used a driver already installed
[07:18] <bumble> so i got a new fresh cd and i installed ubuntu 11.10 over 11.04 erasing everything cause i wanted to start anew and i cant find synaptic to get my wifi card working last time i went to synaptic search bcm and found the one that belonged to my card
[07:19] <genewitch> sagaci: pkill networkmanager
[07:19] <sagaci> genewitch: thanks, see you in a bit
[07:19] <bumble> now what am i soposed to do to get it to work without synaptic
[07:19] <genewitch> re: my problem, you have to rmmod wl and blacklist it and bcm4313 works again on 11.10
[07:19] <sonja__> fglrx
[07:20] <trijntje> bumble: have you tried the software center ?
[07:21] <Luci4n0> aliandro: was the printer connected when installed?
[07:21] <eltigre> hey, I have trouble installing the flash plugin... I installed it several times, restarted the browser, still no chance
[07:21] <pratz> harshada_: hey
[07:21] <harshada_> pratz: hey
[07:21] <aliandro> yea it is
[07:22] <aliandro> it realy dont work with the standard software from ubuntu
[07:22] <harshada_> pratz: yeh
[07:22] <Blinkiz> Hello. Need help with the firewall helper "ufw".  I also have a few deny rules that I now have added. Problem is that the allow rules is before the deny rules. How can I insert deny rules with ufw before all allow rules?
[07:22] <brian> Luci4n0, should aliandro reboot after installing?
[07:22] <aliandro> anyway thx
[07:22] <aliandro> i try figure it out
[07:23] <Luci4n0> brian: no .. the printer should work directly
[07:23] <eltigre> hey, I have trouble with the flash plugin... I installed it several times, but it still won't work
[07:23] <brian> ok
[07:23] <Henriquez> hello everyone. Does anyone know if ubuntu 11.10 has problems with audio/video the playback seems to be x2 with flash video video in vlc and totem and audio in audacious. Doe snyone know a solutions to this?
[07:23] <genewitch> my onboard netbook mic doesn't work in ubuntu (shows up but the vu meters don't move and no one can hear me)
[07:23] <vinky_> where do I set the BIOS clock settings(if its UTC or local), date and timezone  correctly, ever since I came home from the US the time is 9h off in xubuntu but is okey in gentoo and windows,  in /etc/default/rcS  UTC=no,  hwclock  shows the correct time,  timezone is correct
[07:23] <vadi01> guys online accounts how does it work? i activated my google account but how to use it now?
[07:23] <eltigre> genewitch, you need to change the volume controls
[07:24] <aliandro> whats the dif between a lpr driver or a cupswrapper
[07:24] <ntoll> how do I configure my screensaver on 11.10..? Can't see it in the "System Settings" and display related items therein
[07:24] <trolololol> hey there
[07:25] <genewitch> eltigre: where? it's set to 100% and the hardware tab says duplex
[07:25] <trolololol> i need help with ubuntu
[07:25] <trolololol> 8.04
[07:25] <Luci4n0> aliandro: cupswrapper is i think for when you using it as a network printer in cups (with or without samba).
[07:25] <ubuweb> Hello. I just installed wordpress on my ubuntu server. The installation seems to have worked fine . I have a problem to view images that I have uploaded into the blog . I have uploaded and inserted the images in the posts but the images do not display. Anyone has an idea what the problem is and how to fix it? Thanks.
[07:25] <trolololol> this is a rubbissh channel!
[07:25] <trolololol> for a eubish os!
[07:25] <mlatelcom> hello everybody, I just was upgrading ubuntu from 11.04 to 11.10 and right no the way installing packs someone unplug the power cable and when I turned on the pc again it started as it was upgraded but now it looks like something is wrong
[07:25] <trolololol> CRAP
[07:26] <trolololol> CRAP
[07:26] <trolololol> CRAP
[07:26] <FloodBot1> trolololol: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:26] <eltigre> genewitch, there are several controls, try pulseaudio mixer
[07:26] <auronandace> vinky_: try this: sudo hwclock --hctosys
[07:26] <genewitch> eltigre: is that installed by default?
[07:27] <AnthonyCat> Is there a way to give my computer an IPv4 address using DCHP with a manual address?
[07:27] <Luci4n0> mlatelcom: start live cd, and see if you can repair.
[07:27] <Aleo> brb
[07:27] <mlatelcom> hello everybody, I was upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10 and someone unplug the power cable
[07:27] <trijntje> AnthonyCat: you would probably have to set that in the router
[07:27] <eltigre> genewitch, yes I think so
[07:28] <AnthonyCat> There is no router. It is in a virtual machine
[07:28] <OceanEleven> how do i locate the httpd.conf file in ubuntu server ?
[07:28] <eltigre> genewitch, you might also need to choose the correct audio input in the program you are using
[07:28] <Luci4n0> mlatelcom: or restart update
[07:28] <OceanEleven> how do i locate the httpd.conf file in ubuntu server ?
[07:29] <Luci4n0> OceanEleven: let me check for sure
[07:29] <genewitch> eltigre: the mixer doesn't show any movement on punching the netbook or screaming
[07:29] <vinky_> auronandace, it works, didnt think of doing that since I assume the system should do that on boot
[07:29] <mlatelcom> Luci4n0 once I turned on the pc again it started as it was upgraded but it looks like something is wrong
[07:30] <trijntje> The whole screen flashes when using rotate cube on oneiric. Is there a way to fix this?
[07:30] <Luci4n0> mlatelcom: put in the cd you upgraded with and see if you can repair or restart the upgrade.
[07:30] <mlatelcom> Luci4n0 now when I run the update manager I get this msg W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/stebbins/handbrake-releases/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[07:30] <mlatelcom> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/stebbins/handbrake-releases/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[07:30] <mlatelcom> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/stebbins/handbrake-releases/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[07:30] <Henriquez> Does anyone know what could cause video (flash and avi) to run at doule speed without sound in 11.10?
[07:30] <mlatelcom> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tualatrix/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[07:30] <mlatelcom> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tualatrix/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[07:30] <FloodBot1> mlatelcom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:31] <mlatelcom> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tualatrix/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[07:31] <ntoll> how do I configure my screensaver on 11.10..? Can't see it in the "System Settings" and display related items therein
[07:31] <Raven> Blinkiz: what i know about FW's is that the deny's over-rule the allows in any sense. if u can remove the allows then do so, and add the deny's
[07:32] <Henriquez> Does anyone know what could cause video (flash and avi) to run at doule speed without sound in 11.10?
[07:33] <Raven> Blinkiz: but then again all my servers are BSD
[07:33] <__machine> anyone know why i get an error with sudo update-rc.d couchpotato start 98 2 3 4 5 ? update-rc.d: warning: couchpotato start runlevel arguments (2345) do not match LSB Default-Start values (2 3 4 5)
[07:35] <abhijeet> hello guys.. i have installed the latest version of ubuntu... my screen brightness is getting set to maximux in each boot... in earlier version I did not see this issue.
[07:35] <abhijeet> can anyone suggest what can i do
[07:35] <abhijeet> i have set the brightness from battery panel also
[07:36] <Yamauchi> 'The ISO file includes a file called usb-creator.exe' - where?
[07:36] <Xexter> anyone else have any suggestions on how to get my laptop to recognize my onboard keyboard and touchpad?  i have 10.04
[07:36] <esr> I need to remove an applet from the Gnome Classic panel in 11.10 and cannot figure out how.  Anyone have a method?
[07:37] <genewitch> Xexter: how old is the notebook
[07:37] <Xexter> it's a  netbook and probably 2-3 years old
[07:37] <Luci4n0> Yamauchi: .exe ?
[07:37] <Xexter> eepc4
[07:37] <abhijeet> help guys.
[07:37] <genewitch> Xexter: does it work on the liveUSB
[07:37] <Yamauchi> Luci4n0: trying Kubuntu, but no one answered there
[07:38] <Yamauchi> not seeing it anywhere
[07:38] <trijntje> Yamauchi: I think you should see it when you burn the cd
[07:38] <Xexter> the keyboard and mouse work on usb.  not familiar with the term liveUSB
[07:38] <Xexter> the external keyboard and mouse that is
[07:38] <trijntje> abhijeet: what is the problem?
[07:38] <Luci4n0> Yamauchi: try alt-F2 .. type usb-creator
[07:38] <dr_willis> esr:  the webupd8 blog site has an artical on tweaking  the 11.10 stuff.  It might be mentioned in there
[07:39] <genewitch> Xexter: how'd you get the ubuntu on the netbook? the usb drive you use is a liveusb, did the mouse and keyboard work there
[07:39] <Yamauchi> tried that
[07:39] <patrickc> hi
[07:39] <dr_willis> I dont see a usb-creator.exe tool on the 11.10 cd.
[07:39] <abhijeet> trijntje, in ubuntu 11.10 brightness is getting reset to maximum on each boot.
[07:39] <ntr0py> Where are the fonts settings in 11.10?
[07:39] <esr> dr_willis: I've read that one.  It isn't.
[07:39] <dr_willis> but you are supposed to be able to just 'dd' the 11.10 iso to a flash drive and it should work.
[07:39] <Xexter> i installed from a usb to the internal memory
[07:39] <dr_willis> esr:  its possible its not doable. That classic gnome stuff is very locked down/hardcoded
[07:39] <abhijeet> trijntje, in older version of ubuntu I was able to fix this issue by setting the brightness from the battery configuration
[07:39] <genewitch> Xexter: so the keyboard and mouse worked to install?
[07:39] <bil21al> tell me a good vedio to audio convertot??
[07:39] <Companion> genewitch, there is a guide at download section of installing ubuntu from usb stick
[07:40] <abhijeet> trijntje, but now there is no option to set brightness in the battery configuration .
[07:40] <dr_willis> bil21al:  winff, avidemux, ffmpeg, mencoder
[07:40] <genewitch> Companion: i didn't
[07:40] <Companion> genewitch, wanna bet?
[07:40] <genewitch> Companion: no i mean i didn't ask anything about that :-)
[07:40] <esr> dr_willis: Where can I find a window manager that will let me get mmy *work* done?  I hate the direction GNMOME has been going, dumbing down and candy-coloring everything.
[07:40] <Xexter> the keyboard and touchpad have worked for months, they stopped working when i plugged an external mouse in today.  and i've done that a ton of times before and it never caused a problem
[07:41] <Companion> genewitch, oh srry
[07:41] <trijntje> abhijeet: I'm not on a laptop right now, so I cant check anything. Are you saying that hte option is present but has no effect, or that the option is missing?
[07:41] <ntr0py> Are all fonts setting gui options deleted in Oneric?
[07:41] <pumkinhed_> freenode.net 6667
[07:41] <abhijeet> trijntje, in ubuntu 11.10 that option is missing from the battery configuration.
[07:41] <dr_willis> esr:  depends on your needs and how you work. I find  gnome shell useable..  or you just use some other dock/extension/indicator applets  if you dont like the launcher. You could always fall back to Lubuntu.
[07:41] <genewitch> Xexter: that's the question you should ask :-)
[07:42] <bil21al> dr_wills thankx
[07:42] <abhijeet> trijntje, there is option in screen menu to configure the brightness but that is getting reset at each reboot to max
[07:42] <Yamauchi> I'll mess around
[07:42] <Yamauchi> see if I can get anything working
[07:43] <esr> dr_willis: I'm a programmer.  I want the kind of control GNOME classsic gave me.  I've tried GNOME 3 but can;t find a way to create shortcuts in it.
[07:43] <Raven> bil21al: realplayer is a good vid-to-aud converter, there is a linux version that i've used, and is pretty good
[07:43] <tahlvin> I'm trying to work out booting from a USB drive with persistence, and I set up the livecd on the USB and it booted fine earlier, but when I restarted to test it out I ran into all kinds of errors. I set it up again, but I fear that the same problems are going to happen once I restart. I think it might have something to do with updates changing things that don't want to be changed.
[07:43] <abhijeet> trijntje, I am trying now the xbacklight.. let see if that resolves the issue
[07:43] <trijntje> abhijeet: i'm not sure how to fix that, but it sounds like a bug
[07:43] <ziggyfish> quick question, I've upgraded to 11.10, how do I change the desktop environment to Gnome? (it's already installed, but I can not find where to set it in the login screen)
[07:44] <dr_willis> esr:  i found very little controll in the old gnome. but i guess it depends on what you are wanting to controll... a short cut where exactly?
[07:44] <sajimon> ziggyfish: what you mean? You are in gnome whole time
[07:44] <abhijeet> trijntje, may be... it was there in very old version of ubunut.. it was fixed in around 9.10.. now I am facing it again
[07:44] <trijntje> ziggyfish: its the small gear-icon to the right of the login screen
[07:44] <Xexter> genewitch, it seems that plugging in the external mouse caused the problem, but how can i repair what happened.  in windoze, i'd uninstall and reinstall the human interface drivers, but i'm not sure what to do here
[07:45] <Henriquez> Does anyone know what could cause video (flash and avi) to run at doule speed without sound in 11.10?
[07:45] <esr> dr_willis: I used to be able to put app launcher icons on my menu bar.  Couldn't figure out how to do that it gnome-shell...could have lived with it, otherwise.
[07:45] <OceanEleven> I just accidenty removed the workspace navigator from right below section
[07:45] <dr_willis> esr:  i just put a shortcut on my gnome-shell desktop. :)
[07:45] <OceanEleven> how can i get it back on below
[07:45] <esr> dr_willis: How?
[07:46] <OceanEleven> i mean lower panel
[07:46] <OceanEleven> ubuntu lucid 10.04
[07:46] <trijntje> OceanEleven: right click -> add to panel, something like that
[07:46] <dr_willis> esr:  used the gnome-tweak tool to  set 'have file manager handle the desktop'
[07:47] <esr> dr_willis: I'll try that.
[07:47] <abhijeet> trijntje, xbacklight -set <value> will set the brightness.. I do u have any idea how can i add this command during boot time to set the brightness
[07:47] <dr_willis> esr:  the made a shortcut in the Desktop directory
[07:47] <vehemoth> is it possible to have semi transparent titlebars with gtk3?
[07:47] <dr_willis> but i hate cluttered desktops.. :)
[07:47] <OceanEleven> trijntje:  didn't work
[07:47] <ntr0py> where can i set the fonts in Oneric?
[07:47] <OceanEleven> I just accidenty removed the workspace navigator from right below section how do i get it back
[07:48] <dr_willis> ntr0py:  the 'gnome-tweak' tool lets you do that
[07:48] <trijntje> OceanEleven: which part didnt work?
[07:48] <tahlvin> Can anyone troubleshoot my attempts at doing pendrive linux?
[07:48] <dr_willis>  gnome-tweak-tool
[07:48] <trijntje> abhijeet: I'm not sure, I think you should look that up online. Im sure it can be done
[07:48] <abhijeet> trijntje, ok..
[07:48] <reisio> tahlvin: did you at least buy it dinner first?
[07:48] <tahlvin> I don't know enough to know what I'm doing wrong, but things aren't working.
[07:48] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  give details of what you are trying to do exactly..
[07:48]  * phlak_user is pleased to know that Evolution has finally moved to the Maildir Format
[07:49] <reisio> phlak_user: you would be pleased
[07:49] <tahlvin> reisio: and a movie
[07:49] <reisio> tahlvin: heh
[07:49] <reisio> tahlvin: well it really owes you one, then
[07:49] <ntr0py> dr_willis: the gnome-teak-tool has no option for font rendering subpixel orders.  I dident write it..
[07:51] <Henriquez> zyggyfish > Gnome tweak tool
[07:51] <reisio> ziggyfish: you can always use gnome-shell instead
[07:51] <ziggyfish> I am using gnome shell
[07:51] <OceanEleven> Can we upgrade ubuntu 10.04 to 11 without complete re-installation  ?
[07:51] <ziggyfish> Henriquez: it should be built in
[07:51] <dr_willis> OceanEleven:  yes. but often its best to do clean installs.
[07:51] <tahlvin> dr_willis: I used unetbootin to make a flashdrive into a Livecd thing, and set aside the remainder of the space for persistence. In bios I booted from the USB device, and chose the unetbootin default option. I activated my wireless driver and it installed updates. I created a folder called "test" on the desktop and restarted, when I attempted to start ubuntu again it got to the startup screen and then it gave me errors so fast that I couldn't r
[07:52] <OceanEleven> how do i check which shell i'm working with
[07:52] <tahlvin> ead them all.
[07:52] <ntr0py> reisio, phlak_user: i tried monochrome and all other options: its always RGB subpixel rendering and i have BGR monitor, it looks so ugly...
[07:52] <arghx> OceanEleven: only if you upgrade to 10.10 then 11.04 and then 11.10
[07:52] <Henriquez> ziggyfish youcan get the minimize button back through the settings in gnome tweak tool
[07:52] <OceanEleven> i want to switch to gnome sheel
[07:52] <reisio> ntr0py: yeah I know what you mean, so ugly
[07:52] <OceanEleven> i mean gnome
[07:52] <reisio> ntr0py: I thought that came down to a patch to freetype
[07:52] <OceanEleven> how do i do it ?
[07:52] <arghx> OceanEleven: 10.04 already uses gnome
[07:52] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  unetbootin may not be updated to handle 11.10 properly. Ive had so many issues with unetbootin in the past. I tend to just use other tools from the pendrivelinux web site.
[07:52] <reisio> OceanEleven: install gnome-shell
[07:52]  * phlak_user has upgraded 2 laptops till now
[07:52] <reisio> phlak_user: that's what she said
[07:52] <ziggyfish> Henriquez: I shouldn't need a tweak tool, it should be a setting
[07:52] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  or it could be a bad iso you used.
[07:53] <phlak_user> reisio: who?
[07:53] <ntr0py> reisio: which patch?
[07:53] <tahlvin> dr_willis: which tools would you recommend, and how could i check the iso?
[07:53] <Henriquez> ziggyfish it is a setting :)
[07:53] <reisio> ntr0py: some awful patch by people who like their text to be rainbows
[07:53] <dr_willis> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gnome-shell-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot.html
[07:54] <Raven> ziggyfish: try right-click on the top of the window
[07:54]  * Companion sets mode #ubuntu  +b !*@*
[07:54] <Rahul> Lauchpad Answers , Ubuntu Forums, or bugs.launchpad which is the best way to get response
[07:54] <reisio> Companion: :p
[07:54] <ntr0py> reisio: now my texts all are rainbows and i first thought i need glasses ...
[07:54] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  I tend to just use the 2 main tools that are on the start of the pendrivelinux site. but i dont know if they are updated for 11.10 yet. You can also use the various 'usb image to flashdrive' tools out. and rename the .iso to .img and can put it on a flash..  :D
[07:54] <reisio> ntr0py: like using Windows, heh
[07:54] <reisio> Companion: el nada
[07:55] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  i end to do a 'full' normal type install to my 32gb pendrive :)
[07:55] <Strav> Hi. Anyone experiencing some kind of redrawing of the top right indicators (tray icons) when switching between applications on 11.10? (I'm experiencing this when switching from a terminal to google chrome with alt-tab or from nautilus to okular (still with alt-tab))
[07:55] <scarleo> !md5 | tahlvin
[07:55] <tahlvin> dr_willis: I am a little envious of the size of your pendrive. You must make the usb ports very happy.
[07:55] <Rahul> Lauchpad Answers , Ubuntu Forums, or bugs.launchpad which is the best way to get response
[07:56] <ziggyfish> what retard decided that not having a minimise button is a good thing? We are meant to be making the UI easyer to use
[07:56] <scarleo> ziggyfish: in Unity there's a minimize button
[07:56] <reisio> ziggyfish: nobody's forcing you to use it
[07:56] <phlak_user> ziggyfish: not sure what you're on about-Unity has it
[07:56] <ziggyfish> Unity uses to much memory
[07:57] <crash1hd> Ok this is interesting somehow my desktop is showing the contents of my home folder
[07:57] <chroot> i want to creat a usb startup disk in ubuntu , for windows , how
[07:57] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  on sale for $25
[07:57] <ejv> Companion: i think you meant *!*@* :P
[07:57] <crash1hd> I have already checked ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs and it says  XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/Desktop" indicating that its right
[07:57] <S_SubZero> ziggyfish: Unity uses too much memory but has a minimize button.  Your GUI of choice may use less memory but has no minimize.  Think about it.
[07:58] <Companion> ejv, I know :')
[07:58] <Strav> Can anyone try to reproduce the bug I'm talking about? (I'd wish to confirm it before reporting to launchpad if necessary)
[07:58] <dr_willis> ziggyfish:  i do belive the gnome-tweak-tool lets you put those buttons back if you want
[07:58] <phlak_user> crash1hd: there is an option in gnome-tweak-tool to let you see mounted folders etc on desktop but not contents
[07:58] <dr_willis> I have a min/max/close button here under gnome-shell :)
[07:58] <ejv> i don't think freenode could handle all of ubuntu parting and joining all at once lol
[07:58] <Raven> its the minimize button that takes up all that memory. lmao
[07:58] <jackoriper> hi
[07:59] <dr_willis> chroot:  ive heard you can 'dd' the win7 iso to a pendrive.. but never tried it.
[07:59] <ejv> !hi | jackoriper
[07:59]  * Companion sets mode +b ejv@*
[07:59] <ejv> !hello | jackoriper
[07:59] <jackoriper> can i dual boot  my laptop with winxp now, already ubuntu is installed in it
[07:59] <crash1hd> phlak_user, yeah I am seeing the mounted drives too but I am seeing all the contents of my home folder
[07:59] <ejv> lol Companion
[07:59] <Companion> :)
[07:59] <ejv> jackoriper: yes
[07:59] <ntr0py> i wont install Oneric until i get an acceptable fonts rendering
[07:59] <ziggyfish> dr_willis: might change distributions, I've been using ubuntu since 6.06, or go with KDE or XFCE
[07:59] <jackoriper> ejv: how ?
[07:59] <Companion> jackoriper, simply install windows & reinstall grup
[08:00] <jackoriper> reinstall grup over what
[08:00] <phlak_user> crash1hd: could it be that you opened nautilus and maximized it, making you think that the desktop now has the contents of your home folder?
[08:00] <Companion> in /boot
[08:00] <ejv> over the windows bootloader
[08:00] <scarleo> jackoriper: reinstall grub from a live cd after installing windows
[08:00] <phlak_user> crash1hd: press Win+d to get your desktop
[08:00] <Companion> windows bootloader is 'eeeewww\
[08:00] <dr_willis> ziggyfish:  its a free world. do what you want. If you want a classic type desktop - theres Lubuntu
[08:00] <ejv> jackoriper: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[08:00] <Strav> any channels for bug reports?
[08:00] <Raven> ziggyfish: go with Xfce
[08:00] <ejv> Strav: launchpad
[08:01] <jackoriper> ejv: u mean to say that now i need install winxp, then when i start it  boots into winxp, later i do install grup, then i do get my dual boot menu back ? am i correct
[08:01] <ejv> Strav: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[08:01] <crash1hd> phlak_user, nope I am on my desktop
[08:01] <ejv> i have no idea, i don't use windows
[08:01] <dr_willis> !fixgrub | jackoriper
[08:01] <ejv> but i know the documentation I linked to you, will explain it *fully*
[08:01] <phlak_user> crash1hd: what does pressing Win+d show?
[08:01] <crash1hd> phlak_user, the odd part is when I click on the desktop button it shows my home folder like somehow its been remapped
[08:02] <Strav> ejv: I'm looking for someone to reproduce a bug, I don't with send some worthless bug report that'll take time to triage, especially if people can't reproduce it.
[08:02] <Companion> jackoriper, prefferably
[08:02] <Companion> install Windows > Install ubuntu over it and follow the dual boot Wizzard
[08:02] <Companion> jackoriper, install Windows > Install ubuntu over it and follow the dual boot Wizzard
[08:02] <ejv> Strav: good luck :)
[08:02] <phlak_user> Strav:  did you see if its already been reported?
[08:02] <Strav> ejv: hence, I'm looking for live feed back, not a bug tracker (i.e.: launchpad)
[08:02] <Raven> windows has it own type of grub thats why u lost it
[08:02] <Companion> jackoriper, thats the easyest way
[08:03] <Companion> Raven, no Windows has GIT
[08:03] <crash1hd> phlak_user, win+d shows the desktop (but on the desktop are icons from my home folder)
[08:03] <Companion> crash1hd, it wont work :P
[08:03] <ejv> it's best to file the bug report if it doesn't already exist, then the "interested parties" will reproduce, that's how the real bug triaging works in the real world ;)
[08:03]  * Companion pushes the Super key + D
[08:03] <phlak_user> crash1hd: icons from home folder? did you mean all the files etc?
[08:03] <Companion> nothin hapens
[08:03] <Strav> well can anyone with okular installed and the latest updates applied test switching from okular and a gtk application with alt-tab? (you should perhaps see a redrawing of the indicator icons at the top right of your screen)
[08:04] <crash1hd> phlak_user, yes
[08:04] <crash1hd> Companion, what do you mean it wont work?
[08:04] <phlak_user> Companion: works for me in Unity :)
[08:04] <Strav> (btw, I'm asking since I cannot find a similar bug in launchpad)
[08:04] <Companion> phlak_user, crash1hd ofc it works but not here :O
[08:04] <chroot> dr_willis, what ?
[08:04] <Raven> GIT  does somewhat of the same thing in a way, but yes ur right
[08:05] <Raven> supergrubdisk  might fix the grub
[08:05] <phlak_user> crash1hd: can you run gnome-tweak-tool and see if changing the options for displaying icons on desktop helps?
[08:05] <ejv> if okular isn't provided by a primary ubuntu package, it's not ubuntu's concern... I suggest filing against okular bug tracking
[08:05] <Companion> phlak_user, crash1hd [companion@cube ~]$ uname -r | 3.0-ARCH
[08:05] <phlak_user> Strav: what might the bug be, pray tell?
[08:05] <dr_willis> chroot:  Huh?
[08:05]  * phlak_user arches his eyebrows
[08:06]  * reisio cruxes his
[08:06] <Companion> lol PHLAK
[08:06] <Companion> phlak_user, *
[08:06] <LarryB> hi
[08:06] <Companion> hello LarryB whats up!
[08:06] <reisio> hi LarryB
[08:06] <chroot> dr_willis, i just want to install windows along with ubuntu for the other computer
[08:06] <reisio> yes, que to the tal
[08:06] <Companion> !welcome LarryB
[08:06] <dr_willis> chroot:  and windows will overwrite the grub bootloader. and you will have to some how reparir the grub boot loader.
[08:07] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:07] <Strav> phlak_user: there's some kind of reset going on, my not sure of which part of unity, but this happens when switching between applications with alt-tab (it especially occurs when switching between a QT and gtk application but I also got the same problem when switching between google chrome and gnome-terminal so..)
[08:07] <chroot> so , i want to know if there is a software make usb starup disk
[08:07] <chroot> i know
[08:07] <dr_willis> chroot:  if you have a spare flash drive. you can set up grub on it in addation to on the hard drive. and use the pendrive to boot the linux os. after windows  overwrites grub..
[08:07] <chroot> i will repaire the grub
[08:07]  * Companion hits reisio with a bucket of quicksand and points to the archwiki
[08:07] <phlak_user> Strav: you mean like between skype and terminal?
[08:07] <dr_willis> chroot:  you an put the iso on a usb in many differnt ways... if thats what you want.
[08:07] <chroot> penddrive? what is pendrive
[08:08] <Strav> phlak_user: possibly yes.
[08:08] <dr_willis> pendrive=flashdrive
[08:08] <ikonia> Companion: why are you pointing people at an arch linux wiki ?
[08:08] <Companion> chroot pendrive is a USB or Flash Stick
[08:08] <aayush> Hi, I am running ubuntu 11.10, how can I log off the desktop session from terminal
[08:08] <dr_willis> =thumbdrive
[08:08] <tahlvin> dr_willis: is there an older version of Ubuntu that I could use more easily? The least amount of steps is probably the best for me.
[08:08] <phlak_user> Strav: let me check
[08:08] <Strav> phlak_user: let me try
[08:08] <Raven> chroot: super grub disk fixed mine with my win7 dual boot
[08:08] <Companion> ikonia, its a joke between reisio and me
[08:08] <Strav> phlak_user: thanks
[08:08] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  use more easialy to do what?
[08:08] <crash1hd> phlak_user, well I tried gnome-tweak-tool and I get command not found
[08:08] <chroot> you know the starup diskcreator
[08:08] <chroot> in ubutu
[08:08] <Companion> ikonia, I am not reffering any one who
[08:08] <phlak_user> crash1hd: did you install it from the universe repos?
[08:08] <ikonia> Companion: ok - well keep it out of the channel please incase people look at it as a solution to ubuntu problems
[08:09] <Name141> When is the next LTS release scheduled?
[08:09] <dr_willis> chroot:  i just use  the tools, or do an image to my pendrive.
[08:09] <Companion> ikonia, Are people dumb enough to do it?
[08:09] <kaio> hi my 11.10 on gnome, it usually makes the window into "moving mode" with arrows around corners, whys hat?
[08:09] <crash1hd> phlak_user, I tried to do sudo apt-get install gnome... and it came back saying it couldnt find it
[08:09] <reisio> ikonia: what if it is a solution to ubuntu problems? :p
[08:09] <tahlvin> dr_willis: the whole pendrive thing persistence thing, you mentioned that unetbootin didn't work with this version.
[08:09] <ikonia> Companion: yes, more so if it appears people are recommending it, so please don't
[08:09] <crash1hd> phlak_user, the odd part is if i do ls -al ~/Desktop it shows the right stuff so I know the folder exsist
[08:09] <Companion> ikonia, Yes Ma'am
[08:09] <Strav> phlak_user: I don't have the issue with skype
[08:09] <auronandace> Name141: 12.04
[08:09] <dr_willis> tahlvin:   i dident even know unetbootin had a persistance option yet. i havent used it in ages. Check out the tools/guides on the pendrivelinux web site
[08:09] <aayush> Hi, I am running ubuntu 11.10, how can I log off the desktop session from terminal
[08:09] <ikonia> reisio: if it's a genuine solution, that will %100 work, that's fine, but seeing the differences between the two distros that quite unlikley on a regular basis
[08:10] <phlak_user> crash1hd: if you try installing from software center, it will automatically enable the Universe repo; else you might have to do it yourself in Software Sources
[08:10] <Name141> auronandace: approx month/year ?
[08:10] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  i tend to use the tools that put grub2 on the pendrive, then setup to boot the ISO file.
[08:10] <phlak_user> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[08:10] <Companion> ikonia, one question.... do you ever sleep?
[08:10] <reisio> ikonia: oh okay, what if it's on another distro's wiki?
[08:10] <chroot> dr_willis, how , you must use a software , not just copy the iso file to your pendrive
[08:10] <chroot> ?
[08:10] <auronandace> Name141: the names are based on the release date: 12 < 2012 04 < 4th month
[08:10] <ikonia> reisio: same reasoning, use common sense. If it is %100 compatible with ubuntu and fixes the issue in question, no problem
[08:11] <Henriquez> Does anyone know what could cause video (flash and avi) to run at double speed without sound in 11.10?
[08:11] <dr_willis> chroot:  you can use 'dd' to IMAGE the iso to a pendrive - starting with 11.10 - but that wont make a persistant save file.
[08:11] <crash1hd> phlak_user, I have universal repo but even in the software center I cant seem to find it
[08:11] <reisio> ikonia: okay what if it's just something I came up with and put online?
[08:11] <Strav> phlak_user: same problem with vlc though (if you have it installed)
[08:11] <phlak_user> crash1hd: apt-cache search gnome-tweak-tool
[08:12] <kaio> Henriquez, I just know analog sound of my laptop usually disappeared, looks like crashes from pulseaudio
[08:12] <phlak_user> Strav: ok
[08:12] <dr_willis> chroot:  i only use a persistant setup for a few special cases. I found them to be to fragile.
[08:12] <ikonia> reisio: if you have a good document, that works and causes no issues for users then put it up, if it's good for ubuntu, but a version in the ubuntu wiki for people to maintain
[08:12] <tahlvin> dr_willis: Oh goodness, these words are like gibberish to me. From what I understand it sounds like installing the entire os onto the flash drive would take up more room than just using it as a livecd. I have a 4gb flash drive to work with.
[08:12] <reisio> ikonia: so I can link to documentation that's useful
[08:12] <Name141> auronandace: I see. So if I installed an LTS version I wouldn't need to be bothered till then for a distro upgrade it seems.. ?
[08:12] <OceanEleven> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[08:12] <ikonia> reisio: sure,
[08:12] <OceanEleven> what does this mean ?
[08:13] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  that will be tight for you to do any real work.  and can fill up real fast.
[08:13] <aayush> Hi, I am running ubuntu 11.10, Unity,  how can I log off the desktop session from terminal
[08:13] <reisio> ikonia: okay, good to know before I thought linking to documentation that wasn't useful was the thing to do
[08:13] <phlak_user> Strav: ok it doesnt happen with Skype and any other gnome app
[08:13] <phlak_user> Strav: let me see if i have vlc
[08:13] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  a persistant setup will take up about a gb for the actual os. and leave you about 3gb of user storage.
[08:13] <auronandace> Name141: lts versions are designed to overlap so you can upgrade from 1 lts to another
[08:13] <crash1hd> phlak_user, will try after rebooting seeing if that fixes it :)
[08:13] <Strav> aayush: sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart (should restart your session)
[08:14] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  but you have to be carefull with installing other apps. and dont do update/upgrades. or it can really fill up fast.
[08:14] <Strav> phlak_user: thanks :)
[08:14] <auronandace> Name141: So 10.04 will still be supported when 12.04 is released
[08:14] <tahlvin> dr_willis: I was hoping that I could disable automatic updates so that those don't take up any storage.
[08:14] <Name141> auronandace: I was just saying I wouldn't be bothered for over another year with a distro update if I used the LTS then ? Right ?
[08:14] <phlak_user> crash1hd: you never need to reboot ubuntu for this; a quick sudo apt-get update should do the trick
[08:14] <dr_willis> tahlvin: ive had issues with the persistant setups and getting things like the nvidia or ati drivers installed also.
[08:14] <crash1hd> phlak_user, is gnome-tweak-tool going to work on 11.04?
[08:15] <trijntje> how can I confirm i'm not running the beta but the latest version of oneiric?
[08:15] <Strav> crash1hd: I think gnome-tweak tool is intended for gnome3, since 11.04 is gnome2...
[08:15] <OceanEleven> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[08:15] <tahlvin> dr_willis: Oh, that's what you just said. I'm most interested in a nes or snes emulator, vlc or mpc, and a good audio program on my work computer without needing to hide it.
[08:15] <auronandace> Name141: lts are every 4 versions and you can update from 1 to the next, so there are about 2 years between versions
[08:15] <OceanEleven> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[08:15] <OceanEleven> what does it mean ^^^ ?
[08:16] <ikonia> OceanEleven: it's just a warning, ignore it
[08:16] <crash1hd> Strav, phlak_user that might explain why I cant see it I am on 11.04 gnome 2
[08:16] <OceanEleven> ikonia: thankyou
[08:16] <Strav> trijntje: try: uname -a in a terminal it should give you 3.0.0-12-generic  as the kernel version
[08:16] <reisio> OceanEleven: means it's not connected to anything :) local server
[08:16] <morning> trijntje, see system settings -->> system monitor --> system
[08:16]  * Companion hits ikonia with a pillow, don't you need some sleep?
[08:16] <reisio> ikonia: wouldn't you like to be a pepper too?
[08:16] <Strav> crash1hd: gnome-tweak tool is not installed by default... and I'm not sure if it's part of the 11.04 repos.
[08:16] <ikonia> Companion: please stop it
[08:17] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  your 'work' wont get mad at you rebooting one of their pc's into a differnt os? :)
[08:17] <phlak_user> crash1hd: ah
[08:18] <Strav> trijntje: if you're with this kernel iteration, I'm not certain but there are good chances you're with the latest.
[08:18] <tahlvin> dr_willis: I have the most innocent looking flashdrive that my captain gave me. http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=ubuntu&channel=cs&q=4gb+flash+drive+fish&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=2786562828691702643&sa=X&ei=r0GZTvqSKoejiQKy_ZWrDQ&ved=0CFgQ8gIwAQ
[08:18] <crash1hd> phlak_user, any other ideas?
[08:18] <trijntje>  Strav, morning thanks: the  kernel version matches, and system shows 'Oneiric', so I guess i have the latest
[08:18] <Strav> trijntje: anyways, a small apt-get update + apt-get upgrade will set you to the current version
[08:19] <tahlvin> dr_willis: I couldn't not do something silly with it, and I used to blunder about in linux when I was in high school, but that was a long time ago.
[08:19] <phlak_user> crash1hd: not at the moment; my brain is on 11.10 :)
[08:19] <dr_willis> !info libavcodec
[08:19] <OceanEleven> ikonia: in virtualhost conf file , i have set --> ServerName quickstart.local  , then restarted apache , then i type --> quickstart.local in the web browser , but it doesn't load the directory i specified in DocumentRoot
[08:20] <trijntje> Strav: the weird thing is I have no updates, and I dont recall installing any since oneiric was released
[08:20] <OceanEleven> or <Directory /home/northwood/web/quickstart/public >
[08:20] <ikonia> OceanEleven: because you have no dns resolution on the client for quickstart.local
[08:20] <LarryB> heh
[08:20] <shailendra> hi
[08:20] <Strav> trijntje: that's strange, you should get updates daily
[08:20] <OceanEleven> dr_willis:
[08:20] <OceanEleven> ^^
[08:20] <crash1hd> phlak_user, mine too really (I have 2 ubuntu installs on this machine) since I installed 11.10 on a new drive to get it all setup and I had upgraded the old one from 10.10 to 11.04 but I did it the wrong way and did it as a reinstall overtop of itself (which caused it to remove a lot of apps) and I just noticed that the desktop is now showing the home folder content not the desktop content, I was trying to figure out why there was a
[08:20] <crash1hd>  desktop folder on desktop lol
[08:21] <morning> In Nautilus in Oneiric, I don't see the "location bar" (showing the file path as "breadcrumbs"). Has it been removed?
[08:21] <Strav> trijntje: check out /etc/apt/sources.list it should look like the following: http://pastebin.com/ytNAkxuh
[08:22] <crash1hd> morning, no like in 11.04 and 10.10 you can press ctrl L to see it
[08:22] <skan> здрасти!!!
[08:22] <morning> crash1hd: Thank you!
[08:22] <Companion> skan, this aint startrek please talk english
[08:22] <auronandace> !ru | skan
[08:23] <Strav> phlak_user: any luck testing the switching between vlc and a gtk app (that is if your vlc is using QT)
[08:23] <Pauluntu> how do i change the left pannel in ubuntu 11.10 like remove things off of it
[08:23] <OceanEleven> ikonia: Of what importance is then this line  --> ServerName quickstart.local ?
[08:23] <Strav> Pauluntu: left click on an icon, click remove from launcher
[08:23] <phlak_user> Strav: installing vlc now (after the upgrade, it vanished)
[08:23] <OceanEleven> ikonia: i'll read docs , thanks for ur help anyway
[08:23] <crash1hd> morning, no problem I was trying to figure it out earlier too :)
[08:23] <ikonia> OceanEleven: it's very important, it maps the hostname to the ip address the server will listen on
[08:24] <ikonia> OceanEleven: it also determains the hostname the server will pickout of the ip headers
[08:24] <Guest75708> Hi anyone unity tab is gone in ubuntu 11.10
[08:24] <skan> join #ubuntu-ru
[08:24] <Pauluntu> Strav: how do i add an item to it?
[08:24] <phlak_user> OceanEleven: what you type in the browser is the FQDN not your servername
[08:24] <skan> ????
[08:24] <phlak_user> OceanEleven: so you should type http://localhost
[08:24] <Strav> phlak_user: ok... got a similar issue to when I upgraded to beta2, freakin perl-base had dependency problem, ended up removing half of my desktop
[08:25] <Strav> Pauluntu: you search for something in the dash then just drag the icon in the panel
[08:25] <Strav> Pauluntu: you can also reorder them by dragging them out and then dragging them in.
[08:25] <morning> In Nautilus, the location field called up by ctrl-L is different from the "Location Bar," which in previous versions was available from the "View" menu. It's a different sort of navigation tool. And I don't see it.
[08:26] <incorrect> is gnome2 still in 11.10?
[08:26] <hansg01> Gnome Sushi nt avilable on software centre
[08:26] <ikonia> incorrect: no
[08:26] <crash1hd> skan, yes if you wish to chat in russian not english
[08:26] <tahlvin> dr_willis: before I activated my wireless card driver, so before I had internets, I deactivated automatic updating. Somehow, after that, the little power symbol in the upper right corner of the screen is telling me that I have updates.
[08:26] <trijntje> Strav: they are quite different, but both point to the oneiric repo's
[08:26] <tahlvin> dr_willis: isn't this against some law of robotics?
[08:27] <Pauluntu> Wow i must say i'm impressed with the new ubuntu :P i switch over from Arch its just wonderful
[08:27] <phlak_user> Strav: tried with vlc too (but it has a gtk gui)
[08:27] <vect0rx> okay so my wireless is entirely busted on my 11.10 laptop.  It connects to my WPA2 router after login and manages to actually cause the router to need resetting
[08:27] <crash1hd> in 11.10 I keep getting unlock your login keyring?
[08:27] <OceanEleven> ikonia , phlak_user i got it, thanks for help
[08:27] <trijntje> Strav: should I try copying your sources or could that break things?
[08:27] <hansg01> got it!
[08:28] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  ive seen it say i have updates on machiones that are not connected to the internet.. never figured outhow it did it
[08:28] <illmortal> Hey guys I' m trying to re-install Ubuntu 11.10, don' t I need to install grub right onto the Windows NTFS boot partition?
[08:28] <dr_willis> illmortal:  to the mbr of the hard drive  you are booting. /dev/sda normally.. not sda1
[08:28] <vect0rx> was trying to fix the "waiting for network configuration" problem.. it's gone now but the laptop can't talk to the router any longer over wired or wireless
[08:28] <reisio> illmortal: it's part of the install process
[08:28] <Strav> trijntje: nope, you'll probalbly miss the repo keys form some of them. If you have some that looks identical, then you're probably ok. try perhaps: apt-get dist-upgrade (perhaps your latest upgrade was compromised by something)
[08:29] <tahlvin> Welp, I'm going to call it a night. Thanks for the help, and I'll be back tomorrow, they don't pay me enough for me to not do this when they're not looking.
[08:29] <Strav> phlak_user: you don't have any regular QT application beside of skype?
[08:29] <tahlvin> Thanks again, you're all lovely people.
[08:29] <reisio> illmortal: to expand on what dr_willis said, the MBR is before the first partition, it is separate
[08:30] <dr_willis> Hmm.. having to tweak winff a bit on 11.10  to get it to.. well.. work. :(
[08:30] <illmortal> dr_willis my Windows installation is on a separate disk (sde) and my ubuntu Installation is on sdb
[08:30] <trijntje> Strav: apt-get says not updates. I've checked in software center, and I've only installed 10 updates since tuesday. Could that be enough to get me from beta to release?
[08:30] <dr_willis> illmortal:  so you Could put it on sdb. and tell bios to boot sdb. thats how i normally do such a setup
[08:30] <em2000> hello. I have problem with tty console. When I switch over with ctrl alt f3 and enter username and password it says login incorrect. What should be the problem. And how to disable password check on installing programs and etc.?
[08:30] <em2000> I am using 11.10
[08:30] <dr_willis> illmortal:  that way if ou remove linux later.. windows disk has not been touched
[08:31] <reisio> dr_willis: ordinary ffmpeg is better anyways
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[08:31] <FloodBot1> User702: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:31] <The_BROS> How to make thunderbird and XChat always online?
[08:32] <illmortal> ya.. well I guess I have a different issue then o.O; when I try to install grub via ubuntu installation, it gives me a pop up error: Executing grub-install /dev/sdb failed. This is a fatal error.   dr_willis ^
[08:33] <Strav> trijntje: I seriously doubt it... but it depends of what you have installed. On my part, I have lots of kde dependencies so well, I got a bunch of updates for them in the latest day. Anyways, if your repo sources are ok and you have no broken packages and the latest upgrade command said you have nothing to install, you're most probably up-to-date.
[08:33] <em2000> anyone?
[08:33] <seshagiri> Hello everyone, While upgrading to 11.10, i encountered so many errors (http://pastebin.com/94CfGfKS). I've googled a lot, but didn't find any solution. Could some one help me?
[08:34] <DeltaEpsilon> can I pin something such as notes on my "desktop"?
[08:34] <trijntje> Strav: I have all *ubuntu-desktop packages installed, so I probably should have had *a lot* of updates
[08:36] <dr_willis> ffmpeg seems to be sending one of my 8 cores on my new system to 98% used. but the other cores are all at 0%       How odd.
[08:36] <Strav> trijntje: well ubuntu-desktop packages is kinda the defaults/basis, I cannot tel how often it's related packages are updated. Still for the reasons I just mentionned, I guess you're up-to-date.
[08:37] <Strav> trijntje: btw, what browser do you have?
[08:37] <trijntje> Strav: i mean edubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, kubuntu etc, which all include their own programs
[08:38] <trijntje> Strav: firefox as main browser
[08:38] <Strav> trijntje: hell why on earth have you installed all that stuff? ;)  But yes, in that case I guess you should be overloaded with updates.
[08:39] <Strav> trijntje: let me check if I can find an update history so I'd be able to tell you precisely what updates I received from the major repos.
[08:40] <trijntje> Strav: I'm a translator, so I had to check if all translations got included
[08:40] <phiscibe> thats not alot of stuff, just common stuf realy
[08:40] <phiscibe> Strav: were u using any ppa's prior to upgrade
[08:40] <incorrect> oh well back to 11.04 for me
[08:40] <reisio> dr_willis: probably need a newer version, one with the ffmpeg-mt changes
[08:41] <Strav> phiscibe: yes, but they're usually disabled during the update why?
[08:42] <dr_willis> reisio:  yea. i noticed that winff in 11.10 - well for one dosent seem to work with the default 'x-terminal-emulator' setting. had to change that to be just 'xterm' and  had to enable/install stuff from medibuntu to get aac it seems.. :) then i notice that core stuff on my new box.
[08:42] <dr_willis> reisio:   and the presets were outdated. :)
[08:42] <marie_>  am still using maverick, should I upgrade to 11.10?
[08:42] <reisio> marie_: if you have the time
[08:42] <dr_willis> marie_:  if you want/need the new features. yes.. if you dont. no.
[08:43] <seshagiri> Hello everyone, While upgrading to 11.10, i encountered so many errors (http://pastebin.com/94CfGfKS). I've googled a lot, but didn't find any solution. Could some one help me?
[08:43] <Luci4n0> im off .. good day all
[08:43] <reisio> adios
[08:43] <phiscibe> are you using nvidia drivers strav
[08:43] <marie_> I tried it out and had some network issues
[08:43] <virusz>  23.943559] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0
[08:43] <virusz> [   24.649782] init: plymouth-stop pre-start process (1276) terminated with stat
[08:43] <virusz> what is that error means?
[08:44] <jefimenko> after upgrading to 11.10, it seems that my volume controls and sound settings are greyed out
[08:44] <jefimenko> yet i can hear sound
[08:45] <esheep> jefimenko: welcome to progress
[08:45] <Strav> trijntje: from /var/log/apt/term.log, I can see that around the 14th I got lots of cups related stuff updated, network-manager got updated too. Perhaps you could take a look in that file.
[08:45] <Strav> phiscibe: nope
[08:45] <Strav> phiscibe: intel drivers
[08:45] <jefimenko> esheep: what?
[08:46] <Strav> phiscibe: are you asking about my indicators redrawing issue?
[08:46] <crash1hd> I cant seem to get Samba to open? ubuntu 11.10
[08:46] <virusz> why dmesg|tail showing that error in my 11.10
[08:47] <trijntje> Strav: I did get the cups stuf, but no network-manager
[08:48] <crash1hd> it ask for my password but thats it
[08:48] <phiscibe> strav sorry i was crossin gu with another ive read so many posts tonight im crosseued
[08:48] <Strav> trijntje: for network-manager, I also get the -dev package updated; I don't know if it's installed by default (I sometimes install the -dev packages for compiling stuff) but perhaps it's only the -dev that got updated.
[08:49] <Strav> (and the std package came along with it)
[08:49] <Strav> phiscibe: well while you're at it, do you mind a little test? I'm trying to reproduce a bug concerning those top right app. indicators.
[08:50] <phiscibe> i dont have 11.10 up yet and im using kde
[08:50] <trijntje> Strav: i'm too paranoid now, I think I'll just do a clean install to be sure I have the latest version
[08:50] <phiscibe> but otherwise ill try
[08:50] <marie_> where can I get a step by step guide for ubuntu
[08:50] <Strav> trijntje: good, you'll probably get rid of some misconfiguration by doing so anyways so, well good luck :)
[08:51] <Stanley00> Please help. I install gnome-shell but when I choose GNOME session when login (using brand new account), and there's just the wallpaper, nothing else. How to fix it?
[08:51] <vimojnguoi> #ubuntu-vn
[08:51] <Strav> phiscibe: thanks, unfortunately it's 11.10, and gnome/unity related.
[08:52] <Stanley00> vimojnguoi: what's that? Please dont spam here.
[08:52] <vimojnguoi> comment sever ubuntu-vn
[08:52] <Raven> marie_ : www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:52] <crash1hd> when i go to run system-config-samba it says that its missing stuff from pixmap and glade?
[08:52] <DeltaEpsilon> hi
[08:52] <trijntje> Strav: thanks for your help
[08:52] <trijntje> Stanley00: what happens when you hit the super/windows key
[08:52] <marie_> Raven.....thank you very much
[08:52] <DeltaEpsilon> can I use a wacom pen tablet to write chinese characters on Ubuntu? and also draw pictures on Ubuntu?
[08:52] <DeltaEpsilon> can I use a wacom pen tablet to write chinese characters on Ubuntu? and also draw pictures on Ubuntu?
[08:52] <Strav> trijntje: np, sucks that you'll have to install anew though
[08:53] <Raven> marie_ :np
[08:53] <Stanley00> trijntje: nothing happen, the only key combination woks is "Ctrl + Alt + Delete" to log out
[08:53] <Strav> Anyone on 11.04 with gnome and okular or vlc (QT) or perhaps speedcrunch  installed? (I wish to reproduce a bug concerning  the switching between qt and gtk apps)
[08:55] <reisio> Strav: just report it, part of bug wranglers' job is to confirm
[08:55] <DeltaEpsilon> can I use a wacom pen tablet to write chinese characters on Ubuntu? and also draw pictures on Ubuntu?
[08:55] <phlak_user> !repeat| DeltaEpsilon
[08:55] <phiscibe> crash1hd:  try sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[08:55] <reisio> DeltaEpsilon: yes...
[08:55] <dr_willis> DeltaEpsilon:  drawing.. yes..  no ideaon chinease
[08:55] <phlak_user> DeltaEpsilon: why dont you go ahead and try it out? if you encounter issues, you can ask here
[08:55] <reisio> DeltaEpsilon: to be specific do you want to have what you draw converted into digital text characters?
[08:55] <Strav> reisio: well I just like to avoid them the triage of a non-issue if it's the case.
[08:56] <DeltaEpsilon> phlak_user, I can't return it back if it can't do the job
[08:56] <reisio> Strav: and I like to avoid people asking things over and over and not getting what they want when they could just go ahead and report the bug :)
[08:56] <DeltaEpsilon> reisi, no, it doesn't have to do that. I only want to make sketches with it and write chinese characters
[08:56] <phlak_user> DeltaEpsilon: ok. look here for ideas -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[08:56] <reisio> DeltaEpsilon: wacom tablets are pretty well supported by Linux
[08:57] <jefimenko> is a fresh 11.10 install much smoother than a 11.04 to 11.10 upgrade
[08:57] <Strav> reisio: hehe, yea you're right about this. My patience is kinda exhaused too.
[08:57] <jefimenko> cause i have been having lots of issues since upgrading
[08:57] <Strav> I'm off, cya all!
[08:57] <reisio> peace
[08:57] <crash1hd> phiscibe, will give it a try :) is it missing?
[08:57] <virusz> why dmesg|tail showing that error in my 11.10
[08:57] <phlak_user> jefimenko: in fact, when you boot off the usb/cd and select install, it asks you if you want to upgrade which is much better
[08:57] <_trine> I have decided the only answer to the 2 different upgrades to 11.10 which were a disaster is to do 2 reinstalls
[08:58] <dr_willis> i tend to always do clean installs
[08:58] <reisio> _trine: you could always switch to a distro with better QA :D
[08:58] <reisio> dr_willis: so wrong
[08:58] <dr_willis> reisio:  i rarely have issues with it..
[08:58] <dr_willis> and takes me very little time.
[08:58] <_trine> I like ubuntu but 11.10 upgrade is a disaster
[08:58] <reisio> dr_willis: beside the point
[08:59] <dr_willis> reisio:  you dident really make a point. but  its pointless to go on.
[08:59] <reisio> the point is you shouldn't have to reinstall to update
[08:59] <jefimenko> i always hesitate to upgrade cause i'm never sure what regressions will arise
[08:59] <crash1hd> phiscibe, ok well I dont get any errors any more but I dont get the application either
[08:59] <jefimenko> but this one has been particularly bad
[08:59] <reisio> and this seems to be more of an issue with Ubuntu than any other Linux distro
[08:59] <crash1hd> phiscibe, going to reboot to see if that fixes it :)
[08:59] <dr_willis> jefimenko:  i havent really seen that many people in here with upgrade issues. but i havnt really been keeping count.
[09:00] <cheche> i got stuck on the keyboard selection for installing ubuntu 11.10
[09:00] <phiscibe> k
[09:00] <vivid> zero issues with the upgrade here
[09:00] <jefimenko> my sound settings don't even start on log in
[09:00] <jefimenko> i think i thas something to do with pulseaudio
[09:00] <DalekBot>  WHATS UP!!!
[09:00] <jefimenko> i already solved a graphics issue
[09:00] <dr_willis> How could you even collect #'s on how many upgrades worked. vs how many had issues.. some sort of post-install survey?
[09:00] <phiscibe> jefimenko:  you could delete your pusleaudio configureatiojn
[09:00] <jefimenko> media keys issues...
[09:00] <Stanley00> Please help. I install gnome-shell but when I choose GNOME session when login (using brand new account), there's just the wallpaper, nothing else. How to fix it?
[09:01] <phiscibe> some where in your home folder is .pulse folder
[09:01] <reisio> Stanley00: gnome-panel ?
[09:01] <jefimenko> phiscibe: just move that dir then log out/in?
[09:01] <Stanley00> reisio:  gnome-shell
[09:01] <reisio> dr_willis: seems like 75% of the people here since the 11.10 release :p
[09:01] <reisio> Stanley00: install gnome-panel
[09:02] <Stanley00> reisio: ah, I see
[09:02] <ceephax> hey, can anyone give any help in getting my wireless firmware back, just updated to 11.10 (i think this will be my last update) and is no longer there?
[09:02] <reisio> dr_willis: for example ^
[09:02] <ceephax> lol
[09:02] <Raven> a post -install survey would be a good idea providing the upgrade was a success and your able to fill it out at the end...lol
[09:02] <reisio> but you're right, there's little point discussing it
[09:03] <Stanley00> reisio: It's installed already.
[09:03] <reisio> ceephax: can't you just repeat what you did to get it setup in the first place?
[09:03] <jefimenko> ubuntu is always doing radical changes in new releases, which i like... i like seeing the progress that's made
[09:03] <reisio> Stanley00: run its executable/s
[09:03] <xenland> So I like the new ubuntu upgrade but the only issue i have with it is this. When i open up gPHPEdit and click Edit -> open it wont take me to the folder i was working it.... it now shows me recently opened items this is kind of slowing me down as I must constantly search through a conundrum of folders. any suggestions on to make it open the folder i was last working in?
[09:03] <jefimenko> it just sucks when your upgrades blow up
[09:03] <jefimenko> i think it's hard to avoid with the big changes
[09:03] <reisio> xenland: sounds like more of a pref change in gPHPEdit itself
[09:03] <Stanley00> reisio: OK, wait a min, I will test it now
[09:04] <reisio> jefimenko: harder, but other distros seem to manage
[09:04] <crash1hd> phiscibe, ok this makes no sense I have 2 machines both with 11.10 installed and I just tried it on the other machine and its fine installed samba and the gui and it works (but on the machine I need it to work on) it doesnt work and I get the following from terminal ImportError: No Module named glade
[09:04] <crash1hd> phiscibe, could it be that I have something else installed that is conflicting?
[09:04] <xenland> reisio: I will check but i like how my settings were and i never touched them. and my computer is never used besides me... let me check again
[09:04] <hje841> I just installed 11.10 last night and turned back to Ubuntu Classic (Gnome desktop) any idea how to add panel applications, like system monitor? I don't get the context menu when I right click on the upper panel
[09:05] <xenland> I ask here becuase it looks like gPHPEdit is using the Gnome interface for file browsing so my assumption was that maybe Ububuntu and/or Gnome has change
[09:05] <dr_willis> hje841:  i belive the short answer is that the classic in 11.10 dosent allow much configuration. The webupd8 blog site had some info on tweaking it.
[09:06] <ceephax> reisio, it was all automatic and installed for me :S
[09:06] <dr_willis> I think its correct to say that 'classic' in 11.10 is still gnome-3 only with a similer look to the old gnome. its not the old gnome.
[09:06] <SetiAmon> Hey
[09:06] <reisio> it can work the same, though
[09:06] <reisio> SetiAmon: hi
[09:06] <xenland> resisio there are only 3 simple tabs for preferences there is editor, colour and php coding none of them say anything about opening preferences inside of all 3
[09:06] <paranoid_ndroid> I was upgrading to 11.10 and the power went off. Now I'm unable to boot. How can I fix this?
[09:06]  * tommylommykins waves. To inplace-upgrade or not? Are there ever stability issues wiht inplace upgrading?
[09:06] <reisio> tommylommykins: 'fraid so
[09:07] <reisio> tommylommykins: but I'd still do it
[09:07] <tommylommykins> reisio: ALways better to install from scratch?
[09:07] <SetiAmon> anyway to make pulseaudio work right?previously i just installed oss4 but now it seems oss4 isn't working right on 11.10 so is there a way to get pulseaudio from being a staticy distorted mess into something clear/clean?
[09:07] <jefimenko> paranoid_ndroid: lol... that is a horrible time for a power outage. i always think about that possibility during upgrades
[09:07] <dr_willis> tommylommykins:  i tend to always do clean installs when possible.
[09:07] <SetiAmon> i read the faqs and they don't help at all
[09:07] <tommylommykins> Well, I always keep my data separate, it's not hard for me to do the clean install
[09:07] <reisio> tommylommykins: no, if you find you have to install from scratch, you should really switch to a different distro
[09:07] <dr_willis> tommylommykins:  that makes it much easier then. :)
[09:07] <tommylommykins> reisio: That sounds like wishful thinking :P
[09:08] <reisio> tommylommykins: and when you say that, it makes me think you've never used another distro
[09:08] <reisio> being able to update without significant issues is usually priority one
[09:08] <reisio> an OS you can't update is quite a silly OS indeed
[09:09] <jefimenko> by that definition, ubuntu has been a silly one for me for the last few upgrades
[09:09] <jefimenko> this one more than others
[09:09] <phiscibe> crash install gtk2 or one of these pygtk, pygtk2, python-gtk, python-gtk2 MIGHT  fix it, but which ones i dunno, probably one with a 2
[09:09] <Stanley00> reisio: It hard to run that command, but it's like the clasic gnome, not gnome 3?
[09:09] <reisio> jefimenko: :D
[09:09] <auronandace> reisio: are you here just to troll?
[09:09] <dr_willis> being able to.. and having no issues.. are often differnt :)
[09:09] <reisio> auronandace: are you here just to call people trolls?
[09:09] <SetiAmon> I guess there is no way to make pulse audio work ON 11.10?
[09:09] <dr_willis> tommylommykins:  if you want to reduce the chance of any issues.. id suggest a clean reinstall.
[09:09] <reisio> SetiAmon: I'm sure there is
[09:10] <reisio> SetiAmon: but what is it you think you even need it for?
[09:10] <tommylommykins> cheers :)
[09:10] <reisio> SetiAmon: and for that matter OSS
[09:10]  * tommylommykins starts downloading the iso
[09:10] <tommylommykins> :)
[09:10] <phiscibe> crash1hd: last ditch effert would be sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:10]  * reisio shakes head
[09:10] <xenland> I'm back to say i am certain this time it is gnome or ubuntu changes.... the application "movie player" will only show the most recently used files instead of the last working directory
[09:10] <reisio> you guys may as well be using Windows with all the reinstalling you do
[09:10] <dr_willis> reisio:  whatever..
[09:10] <reisio> :p
[09:10] <xenland> thats two applications with the same problem it can't be a preerfernece issue
[09:11] <reisio> xenland: hrmmm
[09:11] <xenland> where is a good place to start for gnome settings
[09:11] <phiscibe> i am SERIOUSLY thinking of mut upgrading 4 machines here and just doing a fresh after one evening of the chatter in here ugg
[09:11] <SetiAmon> Well all audio is cracking/distorted in ubuntu,has been since karmic on my x-fi,the only thing that made it sound great was OSS4 and now when i install that my audio from my firefox dies
[09:11] <dr_willis> xenland:  whats the issue exactly? i missed it.
[09:11] <reisio> phiscibe: mut?
[09:12] <SetiAmon> out of the box sound in ubuntu for me is nothing but static,distortions and echo's
[09:12] <reisio> SetiAmon: and your PCM isn't at 100 or anything like that?
[09:12] <SetiAmon> no i checked alsa-mixer
[09:12] <reisio> SetiAmon: okay, did you ever try specifying a model in alsa-base.conf ?
[09:13] <xenland> dr_willis: its just a minor issue. The problem is when I go to program and open up a file it will show the most "recent files" that i worked with. this is very annoying as my folders go deep and this will cause me and extra 2 minutes per file open. the way it use to be is when press File -> open it would show the last directory i opened up a file. it doesn't do this any more it instead after the ubuntu updates shows the most rece
[09:13] <xenland> ntly worked with files.
[09:13] <SetiAmon> What do you mean
[09:13]  * K-Rich kicks nvidia in he nads, update yer friggin driver so my gfx card isn't blacklisted :/
[09:13] <K-Rich> GeForce 7300 Go :/