[00:01] <Juju> Loshki» this web doesn't charge
[00:01] <Juju> oh
[00:01] <Juju> it finished.. i am going to read it
[00:02] <orbitaldecay> If anyone is interested in helping me test an IRC pvp bot I wrote in python, jump in #fightbot
[00:02] <Juju> Loshki» yes, this information is the same i can read when i try to use the terminal program
[00:03] <Juju> #fightbot
[00:03] <Juju> orbitaldecay» it says: #fightbot Cannot send to channel
[00:04] <orbitaldecay> Juju: My bad, I'm going to set up a different room
[00:04] <Juju> ok
[00:04] <orbitaldecay> Ok, #fightbot2
[00:15] <herbally> hello all, my system is very freshly installed. today it happened 3 times that when I selected it in grub (I have another OS on device) it went into recovery menu, where I selected normal boot, which then ended up with an altered desktop (what I noticed were bigger launcher icons). at the last time recovery menu appeared I selected 'repair broken'..though during desktop sessions everything ran without any error messages.
[00:17] <herbally> so now I first had a screen that says 'Continuing will remount your / filesystem..' and under it a command line with fsck..and for a minute now the screen went blank with backlight
[00:18] <herbally> should I presume all is ok?
[00:19] <jellow> herbally, you quit fsck from recovery menu through ctrl-alt backspace
[00:19] <herbally> jellow, it didnt work
[00:20] <herbally> jellow, but ctrl+alt+del now did.. it is rebooting
[00:20] <herbally> it went into recovery menu again
[00:21] <jellow> herbally, try fsck again it should report everything is fine.
[00:22] <herbally> jellow, you mean this one, right:  fsck :  check all file systems ?
[00:23] <jellow> herbally, yes
[00:23] <kenj> anybody alive?
[00:23] <Snickerz> nope
[00:24] <herbally> jellow, same screen as a minute ago, so I should wait while it is checking file systems, and then it detects any broken?
[00:24] <kenj> Installed lubuntu on an old Gateway laptop and after a couple days of tinkering, everything is working except for suspend.
[00:24] <kenj> The drive sda disappears and ext4fs freaks out.
[00:25] <jellow> herbally, yes give it a little while,  You do not have network shares in fstab do you?
[00:26] <jellow> fsck in recovery mode tries to mount everything in fstab if it is unreachable then it will get stuck.
[00:26] <fizy[laptop]> is it possible and/or advisable to connect a harddrive via SATA while the system is running?
[00:27] <herbally> jellow, no
[00:27] <kenj> fizy yes.  Select CD/DVD and boot.
[00:31] <fizy[laptop]> kenj i know, but it cant get past POST. it hangs on "auto detecting SATA #1"
[00:32] <amzolt> Anyone know how to fix KDE's Kontact when it crashes when trying to configure it?
[00:33] <kenj> fizy: Sounds like you're kind of screwed then. You can try hot plug but if doesn't enumerate via BIOS, it is not likely to be detected during hotplu.
[00:35] <fizy[laptop]> kenj i know im kind of screwed. i was just hoping that gparted or dd could give me something. i know its a long shot
[00:39] <Joe_knock> Hello
[00:40] <Joe_knock> I ran this command while I am SSH from 1 linux PC to another: sudo mv *.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/ , how do I then upgrade my packages after this?
[00:42] <zykotick9> Joe_knock: do you mean ubuntu-version upgrade?  regular upgrade would be, "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrace"
[00:42] <zykotick9> s/upgrace/upgrade/
[00:43] <Joe_knock> is it: sudo apt-get install update or just sudo apt-get update? I am on 12.04 LTS
[00:43] <zykotick9> Joe_knock: "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" as i said before...
[00:43] <histo> Joe_knock: update just receives a list of packages from the server
[00:44] <histo> Joe_knock: ugprade actually upgrades the packages.
[00:44] <knkop> l
[00:44] <Joe_knock> From the last time I was here, it was explained that the above command (sudo mv *.deb) would move cached updated copies from the updated machine to the machine requiring updates.
[00:44] <zykotick9> Joe_knock: fyi, dist-upgrade means "full-upgrade" BTW.
[00:44] <Joe_knock> histo: based on the fact that I've moved upgraded .deb files to the older machine, do I need to run update first before upgrade?
[00:45] <histo> Joe_knock: Why are you trying to upgrade in this manner?
[00:46] <Joe_knock> histo: upgrades take long, so I am attempting to simply push cached copies from the updated machine to the older machine and letting these updates happen in 2/3 minutes
[00:46] <kenj> he's probably trying to avoid the double download
[00:46] <Joe_knock> kenj: Correct!
[00:46] <zykotick9> apt-cacher-ng FTW ;)
[00:47] <kenj> you can set up a machine to cache the files and problem solved.
[00:47] <histo> Joe_knock: then upgrade or dist-upgrade is what you want
[00:47] <Corvette> When I Log into Unity, the screen configuration is correct. But when I log into Gnome, it isn't. Can someone tell me how to fix this
[00:48] <histo> Corvette: what do you mean by screen configuration?
[00:48] <Corvette> the arrangement
[00:48] <Corvette> of monitors
[00:48] <Joe_knock> histo, kenj: I've gotten as far as successfully sudo mv *.deb , but when I run sudo apt-get install upgrade from a new terminal, I get: E: Unable to locate package upgrade
[00:49] <histo> Joe_knock: sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:49] <Joe_knock> aah apart from the google plugin, success!!! :D
[00:50] <zykotick9> Joe_knock: that's because it's NOT, "apt-get install upgrade", it's just "sudo apt-get upgrade", but again, i'd use dist-upgrade if you want to upgrade everything (kernel included)
[00:50] <knkop> jellow, sorry, I was disconnected..we just talked about fsck running in recovery mode..it is still continuing..should I better leave it running and go to bed? :)
[00:50] <Joe_knock> zykotick9: Both machines run 12.04 LTS, so a full upgrade won't help.
[00:51] <zykotick9> Joe_knock: well, good luck with whatever-it-is you're doing... i obviously don't understand
[00:52] <kenj> zyk: he's not upgrading his distro from X to Y
[00:52] <jellow> knkop, how long has it been running and how large is your partition/s ?
[00:52] <zykotick9> !dist-upgrade | kenj
[00:52] <kenj> zyk: he wants to upgrade his distro from X.0 to X.1
[00:52] <zykotick9> !tab | kenj
[00:53] <knkop> jellow, if it's not checking the whole disk, but only the partition, then 100GB, and it's been over 15 min.
[00:53] <knkop> I think
[00:53] <Joe_knock> I don't understand why it is downloading the stuff :-/
[00:54] <jellow> knkop, should not take too long to complete if you can leave it an hour or so , all night is probably excessive hah
[00:55] <daftykins> Joe_knock: i use the exact method you describe to update two VMs, i first scp the .deb's from the source (first downloader) to the target's home, then SSH into there and move them into /var/cache/apt/archives/
[00:55] <Joe_knock> daftykins: I am following your instructions from previously :D
[00:55] <daftykins> Joe_knock: on a run of my favourite "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" i see a download size of 0B/$total
[00:56] <daftykins> oh no! not past daftykins D:
[00:56] <knkop> jellow, thank you, I have an idea now :)
[00:57] <Joe_knock> daftykins: I am attempting the sudo mv *.deb command, what type of output should I expect?
[00:59] <daftykins> Joe_knock: so the destination system that has had the .deb's transferred to /home/username/ would run "sudo mv ~/*.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/" which would complete without output, then running the above update and dist-upgrade would function perfectly
[00:59] <Joe_knock> daftykins: So I needed to run update as well!!
[01:01] <daftykins> Joe_knock: yes indeed, because without updated package lists, your destination system doesn't know that the new versions placed in .../archives/ are relevant :)
[01:01] <dv310p3r> I'm running Ubuntu in Virtualbox and I'm trying to make it my primary OS. I've got my Mac home directory shared to the ubuntu guest. I'd like to turn that folder into my ubuntu home directory. How can I do that. The shared folder is in /media/sf_myusername/
[01:02] <Joe_knock> sudo mv ~/*.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/ is different to your previous command, which was: sudo mv *.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/
[01:02] <cfhowlett> dv310p3r primary OS?  you should investigate dual booting
[01:02] <cfhowlett> !dualboot
[01:02] <daftykins> Joe_knock: all it does is use an absolutely instead of relative path
[01:02] <daftykins> dv310p3r: macs can run ubuntu. why not install it natively instead of virtualising?
[01:02] <dv310p3r> cfhowlett, I've been on that mission for a few days now, dual booting isn't the way to go for me just yet.
[01:03] <Joe_knock> so if I say: sudo mv ~/install_files/*.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/, will this work too?
[01:03] <Joe_knock> daftykins: ^^
[01:03] <cfhowlett> dv310p3r noted
[01:03] <tomengland> is there any benefit to updating the kernel to 3.15
[01:03] <tomengland> on 14.04
[01:04] <dv310p3r> cfhowlett, daftykins so any ideas?
[01:04] <tomengland> only benefit i could see is to get access to the iwlwifi 7260.9
[01:04] <zykotick9> tomengland: do you have some brand new hardware that's currently unsupported by the default kerenel?  if so, then possibly - if not, probably not.
[01:04] <Joe_knock> dv310p3r: Wubi is your next best option if you dont want a dualboot.
[01:05] <daftykins> Joe_knock: if they're in that folder, yes
[01:05] <zykotick9> Joe_knock: wubi isn't a good suggestion...
[01:05] <cfhowlett> dv310p3r you're going to find it near impossible to make your VBox OS your PRIMARY os, as vbox always relies on the host OS to boot.  In your case, no OSX = no Vbox.  thus my suggestion to vbox.  and wubi doesn't like OSX, nor is it supported any more
[01:05] <daftykins> Joe_knock: yeah we don't talk of WUBI these days, it's akin to computer suicide
[01:05] <cfhowlett> dv310p3r "suggestion to dualboot"
[01:05] <tomengland> zykotick9: true, no not really.
[01:06] <dv310p3r> cfhowlett, I appreciate the advise, I really would just like to know if what I asked is possible / how can I do it?
[01:06] <cfhowlett> dv310p3r the way you've described it?  VBox ubuntu = primary OS?  nope
[01:06] <Joe_knock> daftykins: wait, I am unclear about the actual command now. The first part of: *.deb is the host part, right? Then /var/cache/apt/archives/ is my destination folder?
[01:07] <dv310p3r> Really just need to know how I can make the shared folder in /media/sf_username/ my ubuntu home directory
[01:08] <cfhowlett> dv310p3r reasonably sure that's possible, but I've not yet played on a Mac.
[01:08] <Joe_knock> daftykins: I know wubi isn't a great option, but it is convenient for the OP. then again, cfhowlett has indicated that macs dont play nice with wubi
[01:08] <zykotick9> !movehome | dv310p3r
[01:08] <dv310p3r> Doesn't need to be done on the mac, I'd need to do it in Ubuntu.
[01:09] <daftykins> Joe_knock: indeed they do not, but we frown upon WUBI 100% as it's just such a nightmare to assist with when things go wrong... and boy do they go wrong :)
[01:09] <daftykins> Joe_knock: it's a two step process. have you used scp on the command line much before?
[01:09] <jo-erlend> dv310p3r, usermod dv310p3r -d /media/sf_username, I think.
[01:09] <cfhowlett> dv310p3r see the !home factoid above
[01:09] <jo-erlend> dv310p3r, where dv310p3r obviously is your username.
[01:10] <Joe_knock> daftykins: This is my original SCP command on the updated machine: sudo scp /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb client@hostname:. (something tells me that "." after the ":" is where I went wrong)
[01:10] <jo-erlend> dv310p3r, test on a new user to make sure.
[01:10] <kenj> dv3 edit your fstab and mount it there.
[01:11] <dv310p3r> jo-erlend, thanks.
[01:11] <daftykins> Joe_knock: hang on PM me, it's tough to talk about this one with channel movement
[01:11] <kenj> dv310p3r: I usually just mount it in a sub under my user home.
[01:11] <cfhowlett> dv310p3r personally, I wouldn't let my vbox files touch my host OS, but that's just me   :)
[01:11] <dv310p3r> kenj, actually, that's a good idea.
[01:12] <Joe_knock> dv310p3r: Another option is "boot from USB", but for that too, it isn't meant for a perpetual linux install
[01:14] <jo-erlend> dv310p3r, it is also possible to use a physical disk as backing for a VM if you want something between dualboot and VM. But you have to be really careful if you do that so that you're not using the disk from both the host and guest at the same time.
[01:15] <jo-erlend> dv310p3r, for instance, I have a dualboot setup with Windows and Ubuntu and while running Windows, I can boot my Ubuntu install as a VM and then later reboot to the Ubuntu install in order to get the native experience.
[01:15] <jo-erlend> ... but as I said, you have to be really careful when you do that.
[01:16] <JimJones> could someone help to compile a custom header on gcc?
[01:17] <JimJones> i have the header.h in the same folder
[01:17] <JimJones> Projeto.l:5:25: fatal error: Projeto.tab.h: No such file or directory
[01:17] <JimJones>   #include "constantes.h"
[01:18] <rettop> hi
[01:18] <mojtaba> Is there anyone here who could tell me why should I use screen command when I could create new terminals in different tabs in ubuntu?
[01:18] <rettop> I'm on 12.04 LTS. Just opened my computer and my mouse is clicking things automatically just by hovering over them
[01:18] <Joe_knock> dv310p3r: As explained previously by some of the folks here. You can make 2 OSes live on 2 different hard-disks, but you need "grub" to be on the main OS, or something complicated like that.
[01:19] <rettop> and whatever gets selected , the system will open that up repeatedly. (hundreds, it seems)
[01:19] <rettop> I unplugged my mouse, keyboard, and put in a new wired mouse, and it does the same thing
[01:19] <rettop> i cant' click anything properly
[01:20] <dwxreaper> mojtaba: you could use screen so someone remotely could see what you type on the terminal
[01:20] <dwxreaper> or tmux
[01:20] <wheatthin> mojtaba, screen is used in situations where you need to switch to a different workstation and need to easily bring a background process to the foreground
[01:20] <zykotick9> mojtaba: sidenote, personally i'd use tmux over screen, but YMMV
[01:21] <dv310p3r> Joe_knock, Thanks, to all those who really want me to dual boot. I spent two days trying. Between, refit, refind, EFI booting, GPT vs MBR, etc...  After finally getting 14.04 installed (after failing to get 12.04 installed) it was way to buggy on my Mac 9,1. There is little to no specifics about this model.
[01:21] <mojtaba> wheatthin: You mean I have initiated a terminal in one computer and then I can have it in another computer?
[01:21] <mojtaba> zykotick9: what is the difference?
[01:22] <zykotick9> mojtaba: don't worry about it, screen is fine :)
[01:22] <somsip> mojtaba: connect to server, start tmux, start long running process, disconnect. Connect later, reconnect to tmux, make sure process has completed. Rinse and repeat
[01:22] <dv310p3r> So, I finally gave up. Decided my next best solution would be to give 8 gbs and 4 processes of my laptop to the VM and see how that works till I can get rid of my SHITTY mac.
[01:22] <Joe_knock> dv310p3r: I feel your pain. Feel free to keep asking, as we'll all chip in to help you.
[01:22] <dv310p3r> Joe_knock, thanks.
[01:22] <kenj> dv310p3r: What's wrong with your OS X out of curiousity?
[01:23] <somsip> !ot | kenj
[01:23] <Joe_knock> dv310p3r: How much RAM are you using? :O
[01:23] <rettop> i think it might be hoverclick that turned on, but how can i turn it off without the ability to click anything???
[01:24] <rettop> and it doesn't happen at login, only afterwards
[01:24] <rettop> so it's something ubuntu-related
[01:25] <daftykins> dv310p3r: silly question, but you were using the ISO with "mac" in the name, yeah?
[01:26] <dv310p3r> daftykins, yes
[01:27] <dv310p3r> kenj, I HATE OSX!
[01:27] <rettop> anyone have any idea what's going on?
[01:28] <rettop> if i click something, whatever is clicked stays selected and ubuntu keeps trying to open it
[01:28] <ethanh> I have accidentally removed a partition with (parted) rm #. can anyone help me to restore my partition table?
[01:28] <dv310p3r> kenj, I'm a web dev, and for the last year i've been in management. Need to get back to developing. Anyways, was using a mac, but before that when I was developing I always used linux, just lost my touch this last year and hafl
[01:28] <dv310p3r> Joe_knock, got 16 total, giving 8 to the VM.
[01:28] <Joe_knock> dv310p3r: How is that a shitty Mac? I live on 1GB :-/ :-/
[01:28] <histo> rettop: the disability menu at the login screen maybe?
[01:29] <dv310p3r> Joe_knock, LOL. I guess it's all relative.
[01:29] <rettop> histo, what about it?
[01:29] <Joe_knock> with 8GB of RAM, the vbox VM could run smoothly
[01:29] <dv310p3r> Joe_knock, I just love the flexibility and ease of a PC. I can run Linux without any issues.
[01:29] <dv310p3r> Joe_knock, it is.
[01:30] <kenj> weird how Firefox is faster than chromium on Lubuntu.
[01:30] <Joe_knock> kenj: Opening up more than 5 tabs on chromium causes havoc on my system.
[01:31] <kenj> Yeah. It's weird. I prefer chrome on every other platform.
[01:31] <histo> rettop: see if there is something turned on in there regarding mouse
[01:32] <rettop> histo, will do
[01:33] <rettop> histo, doesn't look like it
[01:33] <rettop> histo, i actually can't even use my computer , i'm losing my mind
[01:34] <histo> rettop: what were you doing before this all happened?
[01:35] <rettop> nothing, i think
[01:35] <rettop> histo, i'm one of those install - and don't change anything for 5 years kind of user
[01:35] <rettop> histo, like, until i get a stable system. then i just don't change a bloody thing. this happened on its own
[01:35] <histo> rettop: is the mouse possibly going bad?
[01:35] <rettop> histo, i changed it
[01:36] <histo> rettop: what is the behavior it's doing?
[01:36] <jwcalderon> hi everybody
[01:36] <jwcalderon> i had a question about Ubuntu 14.04 and a web camera logitech C920
[01:36] <rettop> histo, right now, i'm at the login screen and the mouse is fine
[01:36] <rettop> histo, i'm using the onscreen keyboard to type in my password and it clicks properly
[01:37] <jwcalderon> it's possible to get help ?
[01:37] <tomengland> how do i make an app only open in x workspace?
[01:37] <tomengland> and not the workspace i'm currently in
[01:38] <rettop> histo, just changed mice again and it works
[01:38] <rettop> histo, i don't even think it's a mouse issue man. could it be a motherboard issue?
[01:39] <histo> rettop: that's odd.
[01:39] <kenj> What kind of mouse? USB?
[01:39] <Snickerz> tomengland: you can use CompizConfig Settings
[01:40] <Snickerz> under window management
[01:40] <rettop> kenj, just tried a wireless USB and a wired USB
[01:40] <kenj> rettop: If you suspect mb. Plus into a different port like the front vs the back, etc. Doesn't sound like it, though.
[01:40] <kenj> plug*
[01:40] <rettop> this is nuts
[01:40] <kenj> Sounds like a software issue tbh.
[01:41] <tomengland> hmm i don't see that application Snickerz
[01:41] <Snickerz> search for it in software center
[01:41] <zykotick9> !ccsm | tomengland
[01:42] <tomengland> ty
[01:44] <rettop> fuck me
[01:45] <rettop> anyway, thanks guys. this is ridiculous
[01:47] <The_Help> Someone
[02:02] <knoppix> nvidea
[02:22] <texla> hi
[02:22] <daftykins> hi
[02:24] <texla> Try to add themes to unity- tweak-tool.ask ubuntu only has answers on my unity in 12.04
[02:25] <Snickerz> exit
[02:27] <Beldar> texla, that app was not in 12.04, try this. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=unity-tweak-tool+14.04
[02:28] <Beldar> texla, 14.04 is what you're running?
[02:31] <texla> Beldar, Yes a new full install of 14.04..that article in ask ubuntu I had already seen does not apply
[02:36] <Beldar> texla, As of yet you have not given any actual description so all we can do is guess.
[02:37] <Beldar> and that was not an article but a page relating to the tool and 14.04
[02:40] <Beldar> !unity-tweak-tool
[02:40] <texla> Beldar, I want to add themes to the appearance catagory in settings or to themes in unity-tweaks-tools I have downloaded from synaptic gtk2-engines-cleanice ..nothing happens no changes
[02:41] <zykotick9> !info unity-tweak-tool
[02:42] <trism> texla: and engine is not a theme, themes use engines
[02:43] <texla> trism, Okay that answers the engine use
[02:56] <basketball> ActionParsnip, can you help me with the printer sharing
[03:09] <Beldar> So what is the cd to this external HD to rm a .trash /media/bubba/seagate  will not delete normally had a freeze while running a delete on the external
[03:09] <Beldar> or just the straight rm I have the HD mirrored
[03:10] <kenn1> Man.  Now I can't boot Windows anymore. Is there any way I can recover the data?
[03:22] <psusi> asduf, nope
[03:23] <nell> im installing kde on ubuntu studio
[03:23] <nell> is it kubuntu-desktop i install?
[03:25] <Bashing-om> nell: Yepper : kubuntu-desktop - Kubuntu Plasma Desktop/Netbook system .
[03:26] <tomengland> does anyone know why my cursor is stuck in the character insert, I can't click anything at all
[03:27] <tomengland> is there a way to "reset" unity, like resetting explorer on windows or finder on mac
[03:27] <tomengland> via terminal
[03:30] <redGod> is there a way to make customized install disk on windows the only stuff I find when I search on google is for doing it on ubuntu itself4
[03:33] <Bashing-om> tomengland: -> setsid unity <- to reset unity.
[03:36] <Paulus68> Goodmorning when I logged on to my system this morning I just get my desktop without any icons and stuff, when I logged on the guest session I got the message that my root is running low on diskspace how do I resolve this?
[03:39] <Bashing-om> Paulus68: Go hunting up what is consuming the disk space -> df -h , df -i , cd / , sudo du -sx * | sort -n , dpkg -l | grep linux-image .
[03:40] <Paulus68> Bashing-om: how do I get into terminal from logon screen?
[03:40] <The0x539> Any way I could switch my lubuntu install from 32 to 64 with a couple conmands?
[03:40] <Bashing-om> Paulus68: try @ login screen the key combo ctl+alt+F! .
[03:41] <zykotick9> The0x539: reinstall
[03:41] <Paulus68> Bashing-om: ctrl alt F1 I presume
[03:41] <Bashing-om> The0x539: Nope, to go to 64 bit, ya got to install as 64 bit.
[03:41] <The0x539> zykotick9: I ran out of install media
[03:41] <zykotick9> The0x539: then stick to 32bit...
[03:42] <Bashing-om> Paulus68: Yeah, hold all three to effect.
[03:42] <The0x539> So you can switch distros with some repo tweaking, but not versions?
[03:43] <Paulus68> Bashing-om: can it be that dropbox is causing the problem? I uploaded 3 files not more then 100 mb last night before going to bed and this morning I couldn't logon?
[03:43] <zykotick9> The0x539: switching distros?  that would be crazyness...
[03:43] <mud_bat> I have a computer running Ubuntu I think it's version 13.10.  The wifi was disconnecting every minute or so and to get it to reconnect, I would have to uncheck "enable wifi" and recheck it.  I'm trying to gather information but don't know what log files to read.
[03:43] <The0x539> zykotick9: perfectly achievable craziness
[03:43] <zykotick9> The0x539: from what to what?
[03:44] <Bashing-om> Paulus68: Do not guess .. look ! -  with the terminal commands provided.
[03:44] <The0x539> zykotick9: arbitrary I'd think
[03:44] <zykotick9> The0x539: you can't switch distros, you can't switch architectures...
[03:46]  * zykotick9 suspects you could debootstrap a different distro... but that's hardly "normal" install
[03:46] <jschall> on 14.04: indicator-sound spontaneously crashed. rebooting doesn't help. I get these errors: http://pastebin.com/q7G9Fb27
[03:46] <Bashing-om> Paulus68: If ya need help reading those outputs !pastebinit .
[03:46] <Paulus68> Bashing-om: ok second thing is that I can't even reach that machine over the network is that normal? I'm at work now and can't get a hold of my machine
[03:46]  * PrivateMethod waves
[03:48] <The0x539> zykotick9: When you finish, what's abnormal?
[03:48] <PrivateMethod> Does anyone have experience with Chrome in kiosk mode?
[03:48] <Bashing-om> Paulus68: No that is not normal. guess ya will have to be there phyically - see if the system has crashed (??).
[03:48]  * The0x539 revulses
[03:48] <remuxa> hello everyone! (just checking since it seemed no one was on last time)
[03:49] <Paulus68> Bashing-om: even rebooting system doesn't solve that problem tried that before going to work
[03:49] <remuxa> i'm installing ubuntu using the minimal cd (space constraints on my pc)
[03:49] <remuxa> when i hit 'select and install components', a box is supposed to pop up with options
[03:50] <remuxa> such as "Lubuntu desktop", "DNS server", "FTP server", etc.
[03:50] <Bashing-om> Paulus68: In that case, we may have to boot to terminal via the grub boot menu, and see about getting an idea of what is not taking place and why.
[03:50] <remuxa> this doesn't appear at all when I use it: it just sets up the barebones
[03:50] <Paulus68> Bashing-om: or booting through a live cd I presume?
[03:51] <remuxa> is this a problem with the cd itself? or do i have to select any particular options?
[03:51] <remuxa> someone who has worked with the ubuntu installer, please help!
[03:52] <Bashing-om> Paulus68: One can, but Should not be that extreme at this point.
[03:53] <Paulus68> Bashing-om: I know I have some large files on my disk so I could delete those through terminal just find it weird that I haven't been notified that I was running out of diskspace
[03:56] <mud_bat> which log file would contain information on wifi failures?
[03:56] <krono23> hola
[03:56] <krono23> español?
[03:56] <Paulus68> !es |lrono23
[03:57] <krono23> gracias
[03:57] <tom__v> I just upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04.. not as smooth as I hoped, and eventually, I just had to do a clean 14.04 install.  But nwo dejabackup is not working to restore my files..
[03:57] <tom__v> I get a permission denied errory, but no details.
[03:57] <fernando__> hola
[03:58] <Bashing-om> remuxa: see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall <-.
[03:58] <tom__v> by dejabackup is encrypted... but I don't get any prompt to decrypt.
[03:59] <Bashing-om> Paulus68: What I see most often in this case is /boot directory full with old kernels, we need to look with those commands and see what is.
[03:59] <remuxa> Bashing-om: I have read this page, and it doesn't seem to help me.
[04:00] <Bashing-om> remuxa: I Have slept a few times since I did the mini install .. best I recall the optiopn is "none" .
[04:02] <remuxa> Bashing-om: So the dialog I had read about didn't exist?
[04:03] <Bashing-om> remuxa: Gimme a bit to refresh my memory, will read the reference. be back soonest.
[04:04] <tom___v> I just failed to update from 12.04 to 14.04, so I did a clean install, and now I can't figure out how to restore my home dir using my dejabackup files.
[04:04] <tom___v> I'm getting an error message, "permission denied"
[04:04] <tom___v> Any suggestions?  Anyone restored dejabackup to  a new system before?
[04:05] <miguel> hi
[04:06] <tomengland> is there a notes text editor that will read google.com notes?
[04:06] <aaeon> can someone one help me with this error: checking for directory with kernel source... Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution
[04:06] <aaeon> or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel
[04:07] <aaeon> I need to figure out how to get linux-headers for 3.15 in that dir
[04:08] <miguel> hello there
[04:08] <aaeon> hey
[04:10] <miguel> do you have knowledge about clustering?
[04:10] <snardbafulators> I just need to know if my new business card's logo would be infringing on cannonical's trademark: http://i.imgur.com/eizzhMx.jpg
[04:11] <Moonlightning> My laptop isn't booting, something about a nonexistent initrd.img. The last shutdown was a normal one, with /sbin/shutdown, but before that I remember a notice in the MotD that /boot was nearly full.
[04:11] <Moonlightning> Also, I have unattended-upgrades enabled. I think it might be a failed kernel update.
[04:12] <Moonlightning> It's a PowerBook, though, so finding any alternate boot media is going to be tricky at best…I'm sitting at an Open Firmware prompt right now, anything I can do from here?
[04:12] <holstein> Moonlightning: try booting the older kernel
[04:12] <Moonlightning> …duh. *facepalm*
[04:13] <Moonlightning> Shoulda thought of that. :P
 what distro are you using?
[04:13] <tom___v> I'm researching how to troubleshoot my dejabackup restore, and seeing downright scary reviews about this being a problem (https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/saucy/deja-dup/)
[04:13] <tom___v> I thought dejabackup was just a pretty wrapper around rsync..
[04:13] <tom___v> but now I'm worried my inability to restore my files might be a deeper problem.
[04:14] <holstein> tom___v: try it and see if it works for you
[04:14] <Moonlightning> …oops, that doesn't work either. No such file as initrd.img.old
[04:14] <tom___v> holstein, i did it's not recognizing my backed up files.. I get "permission dened"
[04:14] <tom___v> and no details.
[04:14] <holstein> tom___v: whats not?
[04:14] <Moonlightning> miguel: Ubuntu. XD
[04:14] <holstein> tom___v: you can use sudo for permission errors
[04:14] <Moonlightning> Else I'd be asking in a different channel, dontcha think? :)
[04:14] <tom___v> the ubuntu backup utility "dejabackup"
[04:15] <tom___v> preinstalled with ubuntu 14.04
[04:15] <miguel> your processor is amd?
[04:15] <Moonlightning> PowerPC.
[04:15] <holstein> tom___v: for the record, i have used it successfullly.. i also have had issues with it in the past. and had to configure it properly
[04:15] <holstein> !ppc | Moonlightning
[04:15] <miguel> you've made an update?
[04:15] <tom___v> holstein, excellent to hear.
[04:15] <Moonlightning> holstein: yes, I know that.
[04:16] <tom___v> holstein,  I don't see a lot of configuration options..
[04:16] <holstein> Moonlightning: ok.. so you know its not officially supported then?
[04:16] <miguel> yes i already know.
[04:16] <Moonlightning> Does that mean I can't get help /at all/ here? >.<
[04:16] <Bashing-om> remuxa: I am back, my memory is no btter,,, I do know that I did not choose any of the "packages" to install in that pop up. I still feel the option I chose was "none" but it likely  is some other identification.
[04:16] <miguel> wait
[04:17] <holstein> Moonlightning: you can try.. but there is only so much that can be done... have you tried a live CD on the hardware? have you tried testing the hard drive?
[04:17] <remuxa> Bashing-om: The problem is that the pop-up never popped up for me, so I couldn't select anything if I wanted or not.
[04:17] <tom___v> holstein, I select, "restore", and point to my external drive, and I get "Restore Failed" => Error creating directory: Permission denied
[04:17] <miguel> you can't boot right?
[04:17] <tom___v> maybe I need to launch with sudo?
[04:17] <holstein> tom___v: you can tru sudo to address permission errorys
[04:18] <remuxa> Bashing-om: And I'm wondering what could be the problem, the CD or my installation options
[04:18] <holstein> errors*
[04:18] <holstein> !sudo
[04:18] <nightdemon666> Hello everyone... Anyone with experience installing 14.04 on intel mac mini?
[04:19] <miguel> or are you getting a kernel panic?
[04:19] <tom___v> holstein, gotcha.  I think we are on the same page.
[04:19] <tom___v> holstein, I'll try that now.
[04:19] <holstein> !mac | nightdemon666
[04:19] <holstein> nightdemon666: i used reFIT, though, i understand that has a newer fork..
[04:20] <nightdemon666> I wanst intending on keeping os x. Just single boot ubuntu 14.04 on mac mini with intel chips
[04:21] <holstein> nightdemon666: i used reFIT when i booted *only* ubuntu
[04:21] <nightdemon666> You didnt delete The EFI partition?
[04:21] <holstein> nightdemon666: you can try what you like.. its all intel hardware, and nothing about ubuntu is preventing the installation of ubuntu on the hardware.. but i found i had issues on the few machine i had access to
[04:22] <tom___v> holstein, is "backups" gui the same as deja-dup on the command line?
[04:22] <tom___v> I'm wondering if I can use command line to restore
[04:22] <holstein> !gksudo
[04:23] <Bashing-om> remuxa: Did you md5sum the .iso ? and what did you choose for an option in that first GUI installation screen ? (CLI installation [best of my poor memory]).
[04:23] <tom___v> holstein, thanks, I was not at all aware of that.  Installing gksu now.
[04:24] <nightdemon666> I have gotten all kinds of errors when loading the desktop. I deleted all partitions and set up the partition table as msdos. I tried the 64 bit version but it errors prompting me to select option 1 or 2 and then i cant type anything. I had to burn ubuntu 64 amd +mac into a dvd to get it to boot ubuntu :-(
[04:24] <newvirus> http://piratebox.cc/faq
[04:25] <nightdemon666> I have it installed, but like i said, many errors... Ive wondered if its because i installed the amd+mac version on an intel based mac mini... Does that matter?
[04:26] <Cerratux> Excuse me <nightdemon666> what are you trying to do?
[04:26] <remuxa> Bashing-om: For extra installation options, I chose the mouse support and lowmem. My locale/keyboard was en-US, I'm using a wireless connection, and I set up sda to have all but 500mb as a single partition.
[04:27] <tom___v> holstein, gksudo prompts me for the name of the app, but when I try "which Backups"  I don't find anything.
[04:27] <tom___v> What is the app I'm launching when I click the Backups icon in ubuntu 14.04?
[04:28] <nightdemon666> I installed ubuntu 14.04 amd+mac on an intel mac mini. I get all kinds of system error pop ups upon boot up to login screen, and then more errors when the desktop loads. I remember seeing an error that the installer crashed when i attempted the installation from live dvd.
[04:29] <nightdemon666> Cerratux, that reply was directed to you...
[04:29] <tom___v> holstein, or more generally, how can I tell what the full path is to any app I am launching from unity's interface?
[04:29] <Cerratux> ok
[04:29] <Cerratux> look several errors can occur
[04:30] <nightdemon666> What i want to know is, does it matter that i installed the amd64+mac version on intel hardware?
[04:30] <remuxa> Bashing-om: Also I can't find the hash of the iso online for comparison with what I got.
[04:30] <Cerratux> forgive my spell, how much ram do you have on your mac?
[04:31] <nightdemon666> I tried just the 64 bit (non-mac version) but i get prompted to selecting option 1. Or 2. From CD-ROM drive :-/
[04:31] <remuxa> Bashing-om: Never mind, I found it on a wiki page, and they're the same.
[04:31] <nightdemon666> 2 GB Cerratux
[04:31] <tom___v> holstein, I think I"m on the right track with this info http://askubuntu.com/questions/130674/how-do-i-open-deja-dup-as-root  I'll let you know how it goes.
[04:31] <Cerratux> well 64-bit is too much for it
[04:31] <newvirus> http://piratebox.cc/videos
[04:32] <Cerratux> you should try a 32-bit
[04:32] <Cerratux> ubuntu distribution.
[04:32] <Moonlightning> holstein: no and no, but I doubt it's a hardware issue. Are there even any Ubuntu livecds for ppc anymore?
[04:32] <nightdemon666> Understood, but it gives me the option to upgrade ram further if i choose to go over 4GB in the future with 64 bit OS
[04:33] <nightdemon666> I can, and i dont mind doing that... Do you have experience installing ubuntu on mac mini?
[04:34] <Cerratux> how is your sata configuration?
[04:34] <Cerratux> of course it must be ahci
[04:35] <grilo> br?
[04:35] <Cerratux> if your processor is intel, you must be able to run ubuntu
[04:35] <Cerratux> no matter what
[04:36] <nightdemon666> Cerratux, i hadnt bothered to look into the sata config. Im very much used to running linux distros with out much problem. I ran an old crunchband distro from cd just fine, but i couldnt seem to boot 64 bit (non-mac) version of 14.04
[04:37] <nightdemon666> Its running, but like i said, with errors wanting me to send bug reports on.
[04:39] <Cerratux> so you already run "system testing"?
[04:39] <Cerratux> that aplication can bring you detailed information
[04:39] <aaeon> can anyone help me with the following error running the command: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:39] <aaeon> Package linux-headers-3.15.0-031500-generic is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:39] <Cerratux> it comes with ubuntu 14.04 by default
[04:40] <Cerratux> don't worry by the architecture of your cpu
[04:40] <Cerratux> don't worry about the architecture of your cpu
[04:41] <Cerratux> if you have 2gb ram should be enougth
[04:41] <newvirus> http://piratebox.cc/laptop
[04:41] <Bashing-om> remuxa: OK, also what pops to mind, are you sure you have the minimal version rather then the "alternate" ??
[04:41] <tom___v> holstein, looks like my restore is now underway.  Thanks for the help!! Karma point to you.
[04:42] <remuxa> Bashing-om: Yes, I am using the minimal version.
[04:42] <Cerratux> i have tried amd-64 bits on intel and run great
[04:42] <Cerratux> ubuntu amd-64 bit
[04:46] <Cerratux> sometimes happens that the graphic driver is not compatible with the video server
[04:46] <Cerratux> xorg
[04:48] <Pimpdamap> http://trrlewis.blogspot.com/
[04:48] <Pimpdamap> theres good stuff here
[04:48] <newvirus> distrowatch.com
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> newvirus: plz stop spamming
[04:48] <newvirus> yes mom
[04:49] <newvirus> pimp no more spaming
[04:49] <Firefishe> How does one set up mpd for use as a normal user, and not globally?  (This is a generic question, not distro-specific.   It adds a layer of complexity that in times of difficulty can not be overcome.
[05:11] <Waykool99>  Question about BlueTooth: does Ubuntu have a help page which explains what, who, where NAP, DUN, PAN, Object Push and dhcpd3/dnsmasq means, in kindergarden language?
[05:12] <newvirus> faq file
[05:16] <Waykool99> just bought a tablet. i'm very concerned about BT'ing with this pc and BT security. found some questionable 'apps' with (almost) hidden sending private info to 3rd party servers, which sort of angers me.
[05:20] <Waykool99> i doubt the carriers customer service will be honest and give me straight answers.  otherwise, i like that it runs on Linux, connects to my wifi-router and bluetooth 1st before connecting to a cell tower. but have serious security concerns.
[05:21] <bazhang> Waykool99, this is not really an ubuntu issue, try ##security
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> Waykool99: or if you interested for ubuntu on tablet #ubuntu-touch
[05:22] <user0> how to create my own linux
[05:22] <bazhang> !remaster | user0
[05:22] <fuzzywhirlpool> Why don't you just activate offline mode before using Bluetooth?
[05:22] <bazhang> or start with the mini user0
[05:22] <bazhang> !mini | user0
[05:23] <Waykool99> i'm running on Live ubuntu v14.04 LTS 64 bit with BT, DVD-R. i've never used BT on a pc before.
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> !bluetooth | Waykool99
[05:26] <Waykool99> OK. thank you very much everyone. have a great day.  i'll swipe/copy/paste everything to a *.txt file on thumb drive as a reference. thanks again.
[05:27] <SamSol> Does anybody know why updatedb.mlocate takes so much time to run&
[05:27] <SamSol> ?
[05:30] <histo> SamSol: it needs to create a database of every file on your system
[05:32] <SamSol> It is just reading all directories. Why so long?
[05:33] <SamSol> Its must be a bug!
[05:33] <histo> SamSol: how long is long?
[05:33] <SamSol> 40 minutes
[05:33] <RustyShackleford> does anyone else use chrome on ubuntu?
[05:34] <kenn1> How many files you got and how fast is the drive?
[05:34] <histo> SamSol: yeah that's abnormal
[05:34] <histo> SamSol: is it a thumb drive?
[05:34] <RustyShackleford> i've got a wierd issue where if lots of tabs are open, the pages don't render correctly while you scroll
[05:34] <SamSol> No, 3.5'' HDD
[05:35] <SamSol> 139G used of 457G
[05:35] <histo> SamSol: well that could be why. What is the 139gb of?
[05:36] <SamSol> Checking...
[05:36] <Poindexter_> Can anyone here direct me to any interactive web server daemons for my server either in Ubuntu or Debian? Not experimental but it has to work.
[05:36] <kenn1> apache?
[05:37] <Poindexter_> IE real time talk or text.
[05:38] <Poindexter_> Tech support.
[05:40] <ichat> Poindexter_:    if you want good answers ... ask good questions... ie.  tell us about what you seeq what you have and with what puropse
[05:41] <Poindexter_> Interactive live tech support for my clients.
[05:41] <ichat> Poindexter_:  with what purpose, in what kind of setting... where who  why...
[05:41] <ichat> come one really  make the effort here
[05:41] <user0> how to show network tariff in xubuntu
[05:42] <Poindexter_> Interactive technical support. I think I made my question very clear.
[05:42] <ichat> user0:  you could use conky
[05:42] <bazhang> Poindexter_, for ubuntu?
[05:42] <Poindexter_> I will look that up. Thanks ichat.
[05:43] <ichat> Poindexter_:  conky wasnt meant for you
[05:43] <ichat> a never mind
[05:43] <ichat> im outa here
[05:43] <Poindexter_> Ichat thanks for that heads up.
[05:44] <ouyes> I can not go to sleep
[05:46] <Poindexter_> I will spell it out much simpler. I want people to come to my web site and click on an icon and then be able to chat with one of my technicians or also in another case to chat with other school mates in my Network Technology Academy. It is just an interactive tool. I have seen them, but, it is like a relay server in which like IRC and VOIP you need an intermediary server to do the work.
[05:47] <kenn1> Poindexter_: sounds like you want a chat webapp
[05:49] <Poindexter_> The thing is that I don't want to rely on a public web IRC chat. I set up a Debian web server but I am looking for a tool to use my Debian or Ubuntu servers to act as an intermediator between the server and clients.
[05:50] <kenn1> Poindexter_: I googled: http://codegeekz.com/10-free-chat-applications-for-your-websites/
[05:53] <Guest75224> hi to all
[05:54] <SamSol> histo, thank you. Looks like my admin put previous system to /home/opensuse. Even du -sh /home/opensuse takes long time
[05:56] <histo> SamSol: I would just create a tar gzip of the old stuff incase you ever need it.
[05:57] <SamSol> I think it may have overloaded folder. May be old tmp...
[05:58] <SamSol> I will find it and wipe/
[06:05] <user___> Curt sighed in frustration.  He was miles away from home and conceptually
[06:05] <user___> ... been his parents and counselors who decided that early college
[06:05] <user___> ... sighed and turned down the heat
[06:05] <user___> ... the first time made him lonely.  It didn't matter
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> !ot | user___
[06:05] <user___> ... predestined for failure.
[06:06] <user___> ... degree.  Curt only stood about
[06:06] <nikolam> user___, what??
[06:06] <user___> ... same way.  The girls had been kind, but
[06:06] <user___> ... nothing had changed.  Curt
[06:06] <user___> ... and a half inches long.  His balls were similarly-sized,
[06:06] <nikolam> This is Ubuntu support channel user___
[06:06] <user___> ... nothing ... so far.  His research would
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> !ops | user___
[06:06] <user___> ...
[06:06] <user___> ... other compounds.  He turned up the flame
[06:06] <user___> ... passage of the new compound by visual inspection.
[06:06] <user___> ... amount from the vial with
[06:06] <user___> ... be difficult.  There were many
[06:07] <user___> ... drifted off to sleep, the beaker in the next room continued to simmer...
[06:07] <user___> ... considering the dreams he'd had the night before) and looked
[06:07] <user___> ... muttered.  Squeezing out a few drops
[06:09] <nikolam> I have some strange trouble with wired networking. It started when I used 13.10 a month or 2 ago and continued with upgraded 14.04.
[06:09] <bazhang> !details | nikolam
[06:09] <nikolam> LAN is on, but no network is shared to other LAN users via it
[06:09] <nikolam> bazhang, give me a sec
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: its best to explain all in one line
[06:10] <nikolam> I can only click in network GUI in panel on LAN, then it works, but I need to do it on every reboot
[06:11] <nikolam> lotuspsychje, yes, I suppose it is, but I can't keep with the speed requested
[06:12] <nikolam> LAN hardware is BCM5721 and it is answered as 'p5p1' in ifconfig
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> !broadcom | nikolam
[06:13] <bazhang> thats not really the right broadcom
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: did you check your additional drivers section for network drivers?
[06:15] <nikolam> lotuspsychje, yes, I use Nvidia only
[06:16] <nikolam> It used to work just fine in 13.10 up to 2 months ago. then it started behaving like that, and now in 14.04 . Will see that BCM link.
[06:25] <adhdhero> I can't concentrate. Can you recommend a good concentration camp with nice Jewish kids for me?
[06:26] <weedmic> I have a linux machine with NFS server on it with an NFS share of /weekly/migration.  I have a different linux machine with NFS client.  I was never asked for a password on the client machine to access the NFS share.  Where do I input the credentials to access the share?
[06:38] <vahid> hi all
[06:38] <vahid> how install nessus in ubuntu
[06:38] <aeon-ltd> !nessus
[06:38] <histo> !info nessus
[06:38] <histo> did bot die?
[06:38] <nikolam> Every time I use sudo it spits out " no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory "
[06:39] <nikolam> It is upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 . saying how much trouble I have with it, it seems I must reinstall to get working LTS...
[06:42] <slingamn> i have a minimal install of Precise and i want to upgrade it via the CLI to Trusty. `do-release-upgrade` tells me: "Checking for a new Ubuntu release" and then "No new release found"
[06:43] <PrivateMethod> Google Chrome is in my Start-up Applications. If I try and have the computer Autologin, Google Chrome is unresponsive at startup. However, if I have the user do a manual login, Google Chrome works just fine. wtf
[06:43] <nikolam> slingamn, it depends on what is set , should it show updates
[06:44] <slingamn> nikolam: sorry, i don't understand. is there a setting i should change?
[06:44] <vahid> how to instaal nessus in ububntu
[06:44] <nikolam> PrivateMethod, is Google chrome installed from ubuntu repositories (it uses chromium) or downloading from external site?
[06:44] <PrivateMethod> downloading from external site.
[06:44] <PrivateMethod> nikolam: I used http://www.google.com/chrome
[06:45] <vahid> hhhhaaalllooo
[06:45] <PrivateMethod> you know, let me give this a try... I'm going to try Chromium browser instead.
[06:46] <PrivateMethod> If this fixes it, I'm going to throw this thing through the wall.
[06:46] <nikolam> slingamn, I suggest you do fresh LTS install. I had problems with update, but yes, I usually set that in Synaptic in settings, what he should be checking to update to.
[06:46] <nikolam> PrivateMethod, then that is google's problem I suppose or try looking it inside ubuntu repositories instead
[06:47] <slingamn> nikolam: that's fair. nothing is broken with this system so i might just leave it as it is until 16.04
[06:47] <PrivateMethod> nikolam: Yeah, I'm going to try the chromium-browser instead of straight up Ghrome
[06:47] <PrivateMethod> Chrome*
[06:47] <nikolam> chromium it more privacy-minded then google's chrome, it does not have some components, but they are made from same sources
[06:49] <PrivateMethod> nikolam: I read in a few sources that Google Chrome has issues with how it utilizes the GPU...
[06:49] <nikolam> At least on Linux, you Can get working Chromium in repositories of distributions. On other platforms, it is not such luck.
[06:49] <PrivateMethod> But I am not 100% sure that it'd be realted to my issue.
[06:49] <nikolam> PrivateMethod, I wouldn't know that, I use mostly Firefox and Seamonkey.
[06:49] <nikolam> But checking graphics drivers, won't hurt, too.
[06:50] <PrivateMethod> when I check the graphcis driver, it just says it's a VGA, Intel Controller Version 2 or something rather.
[06:50] <MrGeneral> Hello folks. Upon trying to get ElasticSearch to start on boot, I get a fail error, however, no logs are created. How can I change the boot order so it will be the last service to start? Note that I'm able to start, stop and restart it with service elasticsearch start, stop, restart.
[06:50] <PrivateMethod> This motherboard is custom made :\
[06:50] <weedmic> where does NFS ask you to login or where does one set the credentials?
[06:51]  * PrivateMethod just installed Chromium-Browser... hopes it fixes
[06:51] <nikolam> slingamn, I have sort of good experience with LTSes. Just they also can have some bogus updates, but they last one day tops and most of the time it just works
[06:51] <slingamn> agreed. this is really low-spec hardware and i don't use it much, i picked ubuntu 12.04 to minimize problems and it's worked well so far
[06:52] <PrivateMethod> nikolam: it fixed it... son of a!....
[06:52] <nikolam> PrivateMethod, hmm, intel driver come with the system usually. maybe you should get some graphics card in 2014? :P
[06:53] <PrivateMethod> nikolam: what's crazy, is that I have been thinking "chromium-browser" all afternoon, but didn't think that they'd be different.
[06:54] <nikolam> PrivateMethod, just bare in mind to report to google your bug with their chrome in ubuntu. And that Chromium does not have some closed components that ship with chrome.
[06:54] <PrivateMethod> nikolam: It's all custom hardware. It all works out of the box (ubuntu install), but the manufacturer does not supply *nix drivers.
[06:54] <nikolam> PrivateMethod, they are sam sources, just google bundles more stuff in their.
[06:54] <PrivateMethod> nikolam: I appreciate the mention of chromium though... sometimes it takes a fresh pair of eyes/thoughts
[06:55] <nikolam> PrivateMethod, you need to force manufacturer to support Linux at least. This it 2014.. :P
[06:55] <PrivateMethod> If you saw this system, it might make a little more sense. ;)
[06:56] <nikolam> PrivateMethod, report it to google, anyway, it seems like they have problems with Ubuntu then. or something else :P
[06:57] <PrivateMethod> nikolam: yeah, it's definitely a Google Chrome issue. I'll report it.
[06:57] <helmut_> hi
[06:59] <PrivateMethod> hello helmut_
[07:06] <ws2k3> do we have mariadb of mysql in buntu 14.04?
[07:07] <MrGeneral> ws2k3, dunno, im using mariadb mirrors tho
[07:07] <MrGeneral> ws2k3, https://downloads.mariadb.org/mariadb/repositories/#mirror=fe_up_pt&distro=Ubuntu&distro_release=trusty&version=10.0
[07:07] <ws2k3> yeah i chose to compile by hand was i was thinking maby someone knows
[07:08] <ws2k3> would be nice if thet would add mariadb-server and mariadb-client to the ubuntu repository
[07:13] <MrGeneral> yeah ws2k3
[07:14] <Sway> Anyone here running an amd card with proprietary drivers and have issues such as freezing and unresponsive cursor, etc..? I swear every time i install drivers for my gpu, i have these problems but if i don't then i have to deal with my second monitor not fitting my screen properly ._.
[07:14] <ws2k3> lol they went from php 5.3 to php 5.5 ?
[07:15] <ws2k3> precise had php 5.3 and trusty had 5.5 ...
[07:16] <nikolam> ws2k3, does it change something for you?
[07:17] <ws2k3> it would be better if they would have one releash with php 5.4
[07:17] <ws2k3> moving from php 5.3 to php is harder then moving from 5.3 to 5.4 and then move again to 5.5
[07:18] <nikolam> Sway, depending on model, open or proprietary drivers might work. http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Hardware
[07:20] <allstarsnorks2> hi guys. How do I apply a GTK 3.0 theme without using the GNOME Tweak Tool?
[07:20] <nikolam> ws2k3, like when comics owner from 'The Big bang theory' said (before ceiling fell out where he previously standed): "I can't catsh a break" :P
[07:21] <dip> hi~ how do one find out what to type for XXX in "apt-get install XXX", from a link like this? http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/1:2014.1-0ubuntu1.1
[07:21] <Sway> Not sure if i want to bother with drivers. This card works fine without drivers and the only issue i have is; my second monitor doesn't fit the resolution i have set for it even though that's the resolution it should be lol
[07:21] <Beldar> allstarsnorks2, This the fallback or gnome shell desktop, just curious?
[07:22] <Beldar> And what release?
[07:23] <how-art-thou> does the php5 in trusty 14.04 lts have support for postgresql?
[07:23] <nikolam> Sway, you need to check what GOU you use. If it is problem with open drivers (that comes shipped with the system), you should file a Bug report (ubuntu-bug and then on launchpad). Or see if your hardware works better with proprietary drivers, if supported.
[07:23] <nikolam> GPU
[07:23] <allstarsnorks2_> Beldar it's the GNOME 3 Shell (no fallback)
[07:24] <Beldar> allstarsnorks2_, Cool what release?
[07:25] <Sway> nikolam, Was just curious if anyone else here was having similar issues. Default drivers actually work better than proprietary. Without them my system is stable :p
[07:26] <nikolam> Sway, what hardware
[07:26] <Sway> Radeon-HD 7850
[07:26] <weedmic> I have found that nvidia drivers work much better (actually flawlessly) compared to opensource versions.
[07:26] <Sway> @ nikolam
[07:26] <allstarsnorks2__> sorry, got disconnected
[07:26] <Beldar> allstarsnorks2__, This 14.04?
[07:27] <weedmic> I have had no other instances where I wanted proprietary drivers, like I use powerchute for UPS comms without probs.
[07:27] <allstarsnorks2__> Beldar. Yep, Ubuntu GNOME 14.04. Came here because no one at the gnome channel or the ubuntu gnome channel is responding.
[07:27] <nikolam> Sway, there it is saying "2D/3D Acceleration with Catalyst Only for * All RadeonHD 7000-series (aka Southern Islands) and RadeonHD 8000-series (aka Sea Islands) chips"
[07:27] <Sway> nikolam, Yeah i was reading that.
[07:28] <nikolam> So you won't get any acceleration without catalyst if thet is right
[07:28] <Beldar> allstarsnorks2_, Not being up on this I don't do themes this google search may get you going first hit is Webupd8 is a ppa is all, https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=gnome+shell+14.04+install++GTK+3.0+theme&gbv=1&sei=upueU97mDYbroAT__YGQDQ
[07:29] <Sway> Totally okay with that.
[07:30] <nikolam> Sway, on the other hand, "Some RadeonHD 7000/8000 cards are actually rebadged" so maybe that is why open drivers are working ok
[07:30] <Beldar> allstarsnorks2__, Kinda slow here this time of noght where I'm at so thought to at least get you going if I could. ;)
[07:30] <Sway> hah yeah..
[07:31] <allstarsnorks2__> Beldar I'm trying my best.
[07:32] <ada5> Anyone used the Knoppix 7.2 live-disk?   It seems to recognize my Ubuntu boot sector only, but not parts /sda2-/sda5
[07:33] <Beldar> allstarsnorks2__, That is all you can do. ;)
[07:33] <allstarsnorks2__> Beldar I'm also trying to change my GNOME Shell with a theme. I did it before, but forgot how
[07:33] <Beldar> ada5, Knoppix is not supported here, this for an install, what is the end goal?
[07:33] <nikolam> Sway, no i've been reading some review, it's new chip
[07:33] <Bootez> ls
[07:35] <weedmic> remind me how do I do man foo in a browser to see a formated man page?
[07:38] <allstarsnorks2__> awkward. Why is GTK 3.0 window different for root and non-root
[07:38] <ada5> Beldar, My Ubuntu 12.04 now halts mid boot, thought I'd check it wasn't over-full. Look at its last dmesg.
[07:39] <cjae> yo, palemoon needs to be in repos
[07:40] <Beldar> ada5, If knoppix does not see it I would use a live that does is all, could be any number of reasons why this is happening including a broken partition table.
[07:40] <ada5> Beldar, Knoppix is not supported at #knoppix  haha
[07:41] <leeyaa> hello
[07:41] <leeyaa> where can i review ubuntu 14.04 bugs
[07:41] <leeyaa> something like a list
[07:41] <leeyaa> i need to check how stable is xen on 14.04
[07:41] <Beldar> ada5, Grab a puppy linux for a small download.
[07:41] <franz_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-14.04
[07:42] <tracyone> how to use markdown to write a blog in wordpress?
[07:42] <leeyaa> franz_: is there any xen section or thats all
[07:42] <ada5> Beldar, Thanks. Will keep at it.
[07:43] <franz_> not sure i just happened to be on the page :p
[07:43] <leeyaa> rofl ;p
[07:45] <Beldar> ada5, If you tap the esc keep right after the grub menu you will get a text boot if that might help, or insert text in grub with an edit per boot
[07:46] <ada5> Beldar, Thanks, ESC key, great!
[07:51] <m1dnight_> hey guys
[07:51] <m1dnight_> I'm using tmux lately and I've put in my .bashrc a line that tells my terminal (ctrl-alt-t) to always open up tmux
[07:51] <m1dnight_> is there a handy way to make it do the following:
[07:51] <m1dnight_> -> tmux attach -d
[07:52] <m1dnight_> so that it kills my other terminals and reopens the current terminal?
[07:53] <m1dnight_> I tried changing the line as follows:
[07:53] <m1dnight_> [[ $TERM != "screen" ]] && exec 'tmux attach -d'
[07:53] <m1dnight_> but that doesn't work really
[07:53] <m1dnight_> oh wait
[07:53] <m1dnight_> it does
[07:54] <m1dnight_> hurrah
[07:55] <tomengland> 3.1.5 works very well on ubuntu 14.04
[08:01] <gsagie> I am running vnc4server on a ubuntu 12.04 desktop machine, i try to connect to it with a VNC client (tried 2 different clients) and i all i see is a grey screen, anyone know what might be the problem,?
[08:03] <TomyWork> what's the recommended way to install system updates on ubuntu 12.04? aptitude or apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:04] <Ben64> TomyWork: apt-get
[08:04] <aeon-ltd> TomyWork: more here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Maintenance_commands
[08:08] <gsagie> I am running vnc4server on a ubuntu 12.04 desktop machine, i try to connect to it with a VNC client (tried 2 different clients) and i all i see is a grey screen, anyone know what might be the problem,?
[08:13] <Ben64> gsagie: you probably created a new display and it's just empty
[08:13] <gsagie> Ben64 : what do you mean "new display" ?
[08:13] <aeon-ltd> gsagie: have you seen this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2038352 also what is your xstartup -double check it and pastebin it if in doubt
[08:14] <Ben64> gsagie: a new instance of xorg?
[08:14] <gsagie> Ben64: i haven't done this before, i just installed and run vnc4server, i guess i was missing some steps
[08:15] <Ben64> gsagie: try running this... "DISPLAY=:1 xterm"
[08:15] <gsagie> run it where?
[08:16] <Ben64> gsagie: on your computer running the vnc server
[08:17] <gsagie> Ben64: doesn't do anything just stuck
[08:18] <`ajven> hi, how much stable is ubuntu this day?
[08:18] <cfhowlett> ajven  very
[08:18] <Ben64> gsagie: look at the vnc client when thats running
[08:19] <`ajven> cfhowlett its not like 2-3 years ago ? every restart = new error ?
[08:19] <Ben64> `ajven: it wasn't like that 2-3 years ago
[08:19] <cfhowlett> ajven    LTS = very
[08:19] <bazhang> check the notes `ajven
[08:19] <bazhang> !notes | `ajven
[08:20] <`ajven> well i was work with 6 machine 3 years a go and every  reboot makes new errors, thats why im asking how it looks now
[08:20] <cfhowlett> ajven check the calendar.  it's 2014.
[08:20] <bazhang> `ajven, do have an actual support issue?
[08:20] <`ajven> didnt install it yet so nope :)
[08:20] <cfhowlett> ajven install virtual box.  install ubuntu to vbox.  test.
[08:21] <`ajven> i agree but using os on virtualization its not same like runing it on computer :) anyway if you say its stable i will give a try
[08:22] <`ajven> thanks for answers
[08:22] <cfhowlett> ajven happy2help
[08:22] <gsagie> Ben64: when i type it, i see my terminal window (the background is still all grey)
[08:22] <gsagie> in the VNC client
[08:23] <Ben64> gsagie: see, thats because it created a new display. if you wanted a different behavior, then you need to change things
[08:23] <dip> anyone can give me pointers on how to install this package~?
[08:23] <dip> http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/1:2014.1-0ubuntu1.1
[08:24] <dip> it's on proposed repository, I followed instruction here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[08:24] <gsagie> Ben64: any chance you can direct me to what it is i need to change so i can see the entire screen in VNC? any link will be appreciated
[08:24] <Ben64> dip: on that page it shows that it failed to build, there is no package
[08:24] <dip> but can't find the package
[08:24] <cfhowlett> dip it's not yet ready for prime time
[08:24] <dip> oops...
[08:25] <Ben64> gsagie: so you want it to not create a display but show the one you already had running?
[08:25] <gsagie> yes
[08:26] <Ben64> gsagie: then you should use the built in tools for that, on 12.04 it's called "Desktop Sharing"
[08:35] <phallix> anyone know how i can map channels in alsamixer, sound only coming from subwoofer and doesnt show all speakers in alsa or pulse
[08:54] <CMStorm> turn the lights down low
[08:54] <niko> /22/whois ramers
[08:55] <kiwicam> Hi Everyone. Is it possible to have skype go through one sound card and all other sounds go through another? Kubuntu 12.04 LTS
[08:55] <tomengland> hello is there anyway to run sudo modprobe -r psmouse ; sudo modprobe psmouse
[08:55] <CMStorm> kiwicam are you from nz?
[08:55] <tomengland> as soon as machine comes out of suspend?
[08:55] <tomengland> automatically*
[08:56] <wuschLOR> hi there anybody familiar with inkscape sripts ?
[08:56] <Paulus68> is it normal that the network is disconnected when the drive is full?
[08:56] <kiwicam> CMStorm: If I say yes, do I get a prize? I am.
[08:59] <justanothernoob> Hello. I'm currently trying to install Ubuntu with the help of Knoppix. Followed all steps from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromKnoppix. Got to the part where I have to copy files from /lib/grub to /boot/grub, but /lib/grub isn't available. Well, whatever. Edited grub.conf to include my HDD. Too bad, that my HDD is not to be found in /dev. Knoppix can see it, but Ubuntu can
[08:59] <justanothernoob> not. Why, and how do I fix it?
[09:00] <ikonia> justanothernoob: why don't you just do a normal install
[09:01] <ikonia> justanothernoob: why are you trying to install via knoppix ?
[09:02] <ikonia> that guide appears massibly dated and now very wrong
[09:02] <justanothernoob> because Ubuntu doesn't fit on a CD. and my DVD-Drive has problems reading DVDs. It always either crashes the installation or doesn't even start it at all.
[09:02] <ikonia> justanothernoob use a usb
[09:03] <justanothernoob> is there a newer guide avalable?
[09:03] <ikonia> no
[09:03] <ikonia> not that I'm aware of
[09:03] <ikonia> and it appears to just be a weak process anyway
[09:03] <Beldar> justanothernoob, a mini net install works well
[09:04] <justanothernoob> the one time i managed to start ubuntu from disk there was an installer on it. Can i download it somewhere?
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> justanothernoob: create an ubuntu usb with unetbootin?
[09:07] <justanothernoob> Thanks Beldar. Haven't thought about it. You are my beacon in the darkness that is Ubuntu installation.
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | Beldar
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> whats the log name again where you can see unity starting speed?
[09:22] <tomengland> just wanted to say this was a lifesaver right here.  my machine is now 100% configured.  woohoo. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2189117
[09:26] <Guest69751> :-)
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> justanothernoob: could try the minimal iso, then upgrade using the web
[09:43] <tristanStrange> hey chaps... I've just done an upgrade from 13.10 -> 14.04 but a lot of my packages were held back.
[09:43] <tristanStrange> how do I find out what software it is that caused this?
[09:44] <dbugger> In "software and Updates" there is a possibility to find the "Best server" to get updates from Ubuntu. Is it possible to do that from the terminal?
[09:45] <cfhowlett> dbugger probably, but I don't know what commands would launch
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> tristanStrange: they wil be held back if dependancies cannot be met. Once they are met they will install.
[09:46] <cfhowlett> tristanStrange relax.  it might take a bit of time, but the "held backs" will self-correct.
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> tristanStrange: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade ,will show the held back packages
[09:49] <meaning> hey there. Are there any official devs of the ubuntu tablet project here ?
[09:49] <cfhowlett> !touch > meaning
[09:49] <sveta> try #ubuntu-touch
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: that's fast shooting, Tex
[09:49] <tristanStrange> cheers guys.... forgot to do a dist-upgrade.... a lot less stuff held back now. Cheers!
[09:50] <sveta> i doubt there's merit in hiding that channel name, unless there is an obnoxiously long factoid about it
[09:50] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip yeah, well, you know us bot-abusers ... :)
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: she is useful for abuse ;)
[09:50] <meaning> thanks ! ;)
[09:57] <N4G3B00> hello
[09:58] <cfhowlett> N4G3B00 ask your ubuntu questions
[09:58] <sveta> hi! welcome
[10:00] <YamakasY> what is the localtimezone for The Netherlands ? nl_NL ?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> YamakasY: have you tried 'tzselect' in terminal, should make things easier
[10:02] <YamakasY> ActionParsnip: I need to use it in preseed... that's why
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> YamakasY: isnt the timezone setting just a symlink ?
[10:03] <roby77> !ciao
[10:03] <YamakasY> ActionParsnip: yes, but I need to set it on preseed, that is way before the installation
[10:03] <roby77> !list
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> YamakasY: i belive its nl_nl as you say
[10:03] <ubuntuDoubts_> Hello
[10:04] <YamakasY> ActionParsnip: it doesn't accept it... but my VMscreen is artifacted... so I cannot see what 's happening
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> YamakasY: ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Amsterdam /etc/localtime
[10:05] <Paulus68> using ubuntu 14.04 tried to logon this morning and just got a blank desktop no icons or taskbars after rebooting I tried the guest session => there was the notification that the root system was low on diskspace how do I resolve this?
[10:05] <roby77> !ciao
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> YamakasY: http://m.wikihow.com/Change-the-Timezone-in-Linux
[10:05] <roby77> !list
[10:05] <YamakasY> ActionParsnip: ah found... it wants to install in dutch... I don't want that!
[10:06] <YamakasY> ActionParsnip: I know that...
[10:06] <cfhowlett> YamakasY bork bork bork???
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Paulus68: press CTRL + ALT + F1 and you can run: sudo apt-get clean ,as a good start
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Paulus68: you could uninstall libreoffice so that you can login and get a GUI then clean up further
[10:08] <Paulus68> ActionParsnip: any large files will that be sufficient to?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> YamakasY: do you have files like /usr/share/zoneinfo/Etc/GMT-8
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> Paulus68: exactly. I only suggest libreoffice as its quite chunky (about 300Mb)
[10:09] <Paulus68> well I know I have some files in the download that are 1 GIG so I could start to delete those first
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Paulus68: makes sense. Cleaning apt's cache down will help.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Paulus68: also uninstall old unused kernels.
[10:10] <Paulus68> ActionParsnip: how do I remove these
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> Paulus68: and clean out more deeper dirs like firefox cache, or huge logs in /var
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Paulus68: uname -r ,will show the current kernel.
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Paulus68: dpkg -l | grep linux-image | awk {'print $2'}
[10:11] <cfhowlett> Paulus68 apt-get autoremove
[10:12]  * lotuspsychje uses ubuntu-tweak to clean out
[10:12] <LordNikon55> Paulus68: Make sure you understand commands before running them, you shouldn't implicitly trust people in IRC
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> Paulus68: will show the installed kernels. You can remove any extra kernels. Just not the metapackage (the one without numbers) and not the running kernel.
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: user cannot login, so ubuntu tweak isnt going to be usable unless it can be used in CLI
[10:13] <roby77> !list
[10:13] <Paulus68> LordNikon55: I know ActionParsnip and cfhowlett to be trustworthy and they helped me out in the past as well
[10:13]  * cfhowlett blushes furiously
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> Roby77: it hasnt changed you know. There will never be files listed
[10:13] <LordNikon55> That ubottu message annoys me every single time, !list doesn't suggest warez
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | cfhowlett  ActionParsnip
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: ty :-)
[10:14] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje thanks m8
[10:15] <Paulus68> throwing cookies is one :p helping out is for ActionParsnip and cfhowlett :D
[10:15] <Paulus68> no offense towards lotuspsyche :D
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> Paulus68: we helped a user out yesterday, with cleaning out cli also with this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/36111/whats-a-command-line-way-to-find-large-files-directories-to-remove-and-free-up
[10:17] <loa> what is easy method to lock package in ubuntu?
[10:17] <loa> i installed google-chrome
[10:17] <LordNikon55> Baobab is the easiest way to find large files
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> !info baobab
[10:18] <loa> for example i installed google-chrome-32-0-1700-107-es-en-br-fr-de-it-cn-jp-ar-ru-nl-pl-cz-dk-fi-gr-kr-no-se-tr-ubu.deb
[10:18] <loa> i want to lock thing from it.
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> LordNikon55: is that the default disk analyzer tool in ubuntu?
[10:18] <loa> becouse update-manager is trying to update
[10:18] <loa> it
[10:18] <Paulus68> lotuspsychje: thanks
[10:19] <LordNikon55> lotuspsychje: Not sure, I use Red Hat
[10:19] <loa> lotuspsychje, there is much better, kdirstat
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[10:19] <loa> but ofcourse it need kde libs...
[10:24] <LordNikon55> Yes, KDE is best avoided like the plague
[10:25] <Dingus> what about mint?
[10:26] <cfhowlett> !mint|Dingus ??? mint isn't supported here
[10:26] <gry> Dingus: you're welcome to stick around and help others nevertheless.
[10:26] <jdmf> I'm currently making a local mirror using "debmirror" of trusty, but I'm not sure if I should also mirror the source? I can not see what I should be using the source for. Anyone here that can enlighten me?
[10:27] <gry> jdmf: if you intend to compile it, source would be useful. Otherwise you probably don't need it.
[10:28] <jdmf> gry: Thanks, that was my thought also, and saving local space is always nice.
[10:29] <KGM70> LordNikon55, I beg to differ, and I know that your sweeping statement is made to cause controversy, but we all gave our likes and dislikes this isn't the forum for that kind pf statement
[10:30] <KGM70> oops , anyway the gist is there
[10:31] <jdmf> gry: Another thing then - What about the requirement of some kernel-image header or sources. Would this require the source from mirror?
[10:33] <sveta> jdmf: I believe headers are installed, probably to let others do kernel system calls.
[10:33] <sveta> I mean, they're installed for everyone, not only developers.
[10:34] <jdmf> sveta: Sounds about right. And also having the kernel-headers in a seperate package as I can not remember the last time I used apt-get source PKG
[10:35] <jdmf> Thanks all. :)
[10:36] <sveta> jdmf: I think I didn't use apt-get source myself. I would start doing that, but I suspect that I am more into fixing bugs upstream anyway.
[10:36] <sveta> packaging is hard and I appreciate your closer look at all that.
[10:38] <ddt> Can I limit ICMP with UFW? I tried add rules for ICMP limit to after.rules or/and before.rules , but it didn't work.. Thanks
[10:39] <ddt> rules like -A ufw-after-input -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -m limit --limit 39.6/min --limit-burst 1 -j ACCEPT
[10:43] <jdmf> sveta: Thank your for your input. :)
[10:44] <jdmf> gry: Also thank to you.. :)
[10:44] <sveta> we're the same person actually, I just have weird internet
[10:44] <sveta> no worries
[10:45] <jdmf> that explains everything now.. :P
[10:58] <texla> Ubuntu-14.04 Unity..How to add themes to unity-tweak-tool..Downloaded gtk2-engines-cleanice..does not show in tweaks
[11:02] <hari075> hi
[11:03] <hari075> i friends need help regarding squid3 conf
[11:04] <hari075> if you can plz help me
[11:12] <hari075> need help reg squid conf
[11:14] <cfhowlett> !info squid
[11:15] <hari075> how to export suid user and pwd in squid3
[11:15] <hari075> i have installed and working fine
[11:15] <hari075> now i need to export users and pwd on my old server
[11:18] <robynata> :P
[11:21] <yohanesekoportab> hello
[11:42] <justanothernoob> I'm back. managed to install ubuntu but have a new problem. My  Video-Card is a old NVidia GeForce4 440 Go 64m. I know where and how to get legacy drivers for debian, but i cant find them for ubuntu. can i just use the same package?
[11:44] <xfabox> hi, some help with boot-repair?
[11:46] <dh33p4n> hi guys I wanna develop ubuntu app, where to get started, can any one point me to the rite information, thanks!
[11:46] <ikonia> dh33p4n: from what point are you starting
[11:46] <ikonia> eg: do you know what languages you're going to use and just want the process to submit, or do you need to know how to write an app
[11:47] <asdofindia> are ubuntu apps different from applications that run in ubuntu?
[11:47] <dh33p4n> ikonia, I wanna use glade and python to develop desktop apps. I dunno how they work together
[11:48] <asdofindia> oh, I for a second, thought ubuntu on phones will have apps like firefox os apps.
[11:49] <ikonia> dh33p4n: http://developer.ubuntu.com/
[11:50] <dh33p4n> thanks! ikonia
[11:57] <BlackAngelPR> hi all , hola a todos
[11:57] <mary_> please help me in mysql connectivity with java
[11:58] <ikonia> mary_: what's the problem ?
[11:58] <ikonia> is it a connection problem with the infrastrcture or a code problem
[12:00] <masterkorp> hello
[12:00] <masterkorp> what happened to systemctl ?
[12:00] <BlackAngelPR> hi
[12:00] <masterkorp> I can't install systemd anymore from the official repos on 14.04 ?
[12:00] <ikonia> systemd isn't part of ubuntu
[12:01] <ikonia> it uses upstart
[12:01] <masterkorp> i know that
[12:01] <masterkorp> but it aint on the repos ? so i can use it as alternative service manager ?
[12:02] <ikonia> how do you expect to use it, if it's not in the repos ?
[12:02] <BlackAngelPR> http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-and-test-systemd-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr-and-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[12:02] <ikonia> I certainly wouldn't be using a PPA
[12:03] <IdleOne> masterkorp: I believe it is in the 14.10 development repos. but that is not supported in this channel
[12:03] <ikonia> I certainly wouldn't pull it back from 14.10 either
[12:03] <Guest14413> masterkorp intall it by compiling etc!
[12:03] <Guest14413> dont wait repos
[12:04] <ikonia> worst advice ever
[12:04] <ikonia> I'd ignore that more than the others
[12:04] <Guest14413> -)
[12:04] <masterkorp> fuck it i will use runit
[12:05] <ikonia> no need for bad langauge
[12:05] <IdleOne> ikonia: I agree. I was not trying to suggest mixing/pulling from 14.10. sorry if it sounded that way
[12:06] <Adept-> Hi, I am trying to install the latest LTS but the installer does not detect my SSD drive.  It doesn't have to run all that good, it just has to work. nouveau doesn't work. proprietary driver needs an older Xorg version. Too much hassle. There was one with 4 letters. Can anyone help?
[12:18] <Shardvexz> Hello Vongjam!
[12:18] <Shardvexz> Hello danecando!
[12:18] <ikonia> justanothernoob: vesa
[12:19] <Shardvexz> Hello bazhang!
[12:19] <justanothernoob> That's it, thanks
[12:19] <Shardvexz> Hello danecando!
[12:19] <bazhang> Shardvexz, bot?
[12:19] <ikonia> Shardvexz: you don't have to greet each person
[12:19] <Shardvexz> Hello Tjommi!
[12:19] <ikonia> Shardvexz: please don't do that
[12:19] <Grefor> i could use a little help confuguring my keyboard if anyone willing
[12:19] <bazhang> seems like a greeter bot/script
[12:19] <Shardvexz> Hello danecando!
[12:20] <Tjommi> hahah
[12:30] <will_wielder> hi anyone in here
[12:30]  * gas-sho shakes his head ;P
[12:32] <p3rror> how to remove access to a ssh user to mysql
[12:33] <p3rror> I need that my user will not be able to run mysql command line
[12:36] <Mathisen> p3rror edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config  | add line  DenyUsers usename,username,username
[12:38] <p3rror> Mathisen: I need that my user will not be able to run mysql
[12:38] <p3rror> Mathisen: /etc/ssh/sshd_config will block access to ssh
[12:43] <Mathisen> p3rror sorry missunderstood the question
[12:43] <broken-mind> hello
[12:45] <gr33n7007h> p3rror, give #mysql ago
[12:50] <ddt> Hello, can I limit ICMP with UFW in Ubuntu? I tried add rules for ICMP limit to after.rules or/and before.rules , but it didn't work.. Thanks
[12:51] <cfhowlett> !ufw
[12:56] <hikenboot> hi does anyone know if the ubuntu live cd is capabable of mounting an install and executing a shell into a ubuntu system built across multiple virtual drives for example / is /dev/sdb1 /boot is /dev/sda1 ...etc.etc
[12:56] <ikonia> hikenboot: that's just mounting the disks
[12:56] <ikonia> no problem there at all
[12:57] <hikenboot> No let me make it clear I am trying to repair the system
[12:57] <ikonia> yes, and it's not a problem to mount the disks and chroot into it
[12:58] <groszek> Hi. does anyone know how to set default filters for unity launcher? eg. i want to disable music, but enable calculator
[12:58] <hikenboot> but I would have to manually mount each disk as a directory then chroot into it right?
[12:58] <ikonia> hikenboot: correct
[12:58] <hikenboot> the simple chroot directions wont work am I correct...its more than that when its across multiple disks??? yes no?
[12:59] <ikonia> hikenboot: it makes no difference how many disks it's under
[13:00] <hikenboot_> sorry ikonia got disconnected will happen again bad connection..can you attempt to answer my last question before it happens again?
[13:00] <hikenboot_> sorry to be a bother
[13:01] <ikonia> hikenboot: it doesn't matter how many directories/disks your root is made up of, it has no impact or chroot
[13:01] <awestroke> How do I get icedtea in chromium-browser? I've tried both icedtea-6-plugin and icedtea-7-plugin, by symlinking into chrome's "plugins" folders, nothing works
[13:01] <hikenboot_> right but can I prebuild a /etc/fstab to do  it?
[13:01] <ikonia> hikenboot: you can mount anything in /etc/fstab
[13:02] <ikonia> although why you want to do that, I have no idea
[13:02] <hikenboot_> ikonia, simply because I am going to have to do this over and over again.
[13:05] <gebbione> hi all
[13:06] <gebbione> is there a good way to log all download request from a machine? for instance something like tcpdump to listen for requests to external resources?
[13:07] <awestroke> gebbione: for what purpose?
[13:07] <gebbione> i had a machine for which my hosting provider complaints that lots of data is being downloaded
[13:08] <gebbione> so i would like to get an insight in what might do that
[13:08] <gebbione> the machine is shared in the team
[13:08] <gebbione> awestroke,
[13:09] <awestroke> gebbione: check crontabs, you might have some infection
[13:09] <gebbione> no likely
[13:09] <gebbione> we have jenkins
[13:09] <awestroke> huh?
[13:09] <gebbione> but i have no clue on how to spot what job/process might download lots of stuff
[13:09] <gebbione> awestroke, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenkins_(software)
[13:11] <Pici> gebbione: nethogs can provide realtime statistics of what processes are consuming the most bandwidth
[13:16] <arunpyasi> hi guys
[13:16] <arunpyasi> is there any script which can call a keystroke ?
[13:17] <vires> hi
[13:17] <vires> hi
[13:18] <arunpyasi> is there any script which can call a keystroke ?
[13:19] <jellow> arunpyasi, What are you trying to do? is this for a gui app?
[13:19] <arunpyasi> jellow: nope , I m wanting for bash script
[13:19] <arunpyasi> or python
[13:20] <legrandin> does anyone here know how to set the hostname of an ubuntu apache server
[13:20] <arunpyasi> jellow: I am wanting to do the work of f5 ie for refresh using a script
[13:20] <ThePhantomPhreak> xsendkey
[13:20] <Chaos_Zero> I was trying to install the sun gridengine package and some errors occurred. I think I fixed what was causing the errors, but even if I purge and install again, it will not give me the options screens that It did the first time I tried to install
[13:20] <Chaos_Zero> how can I reconfigure a package?
[13:21] <Grefor> dpkg-reconfigure?
[13:22] <Chaos_Zero> it gives one of the screens but not the rest... what I really want is to just delete all the options and start from scratch
[13:22] <six86> hello. For a few systems we want to have a keylogger recording every keystroke made (research systems where a lot of people are working on, to have a log/diary) but for remote access with teamviewer the keystrokes are not recorded, is there another solution than logkeys that is capable of logging everything?
[13:22] <Chaos_Zero> anything stronger then purge? =D
[13:22] <Grefor> that i wouldnt know
[13:22] <Grefor> sorry
[13:23] <ThePhantomPhreak> six86: That's an infrigment of privacy, I recommend you desist
[13:24] <Grefor> i was about to say the same
[13:24] <six86> ThePhantomPhreak: all people are informed and the keylogger will not be hidden at all. I feared that this would be the first answer I'm getting....
[13:25] <ThePhantomPhreak> six86: People will feel obliged to agree since it's at their workplace. Still a massive privacy violation
[13:25] <ThePhantomPhreak> six86: Please do not use Ubuntu for such a purpose, it's contrary to the philosophy of free software
[13:25] <six86> No it's not their workplace. These are isolated research machines.
[13:26] <six86> I'm just looking for a solution for the described proplem we have, it's not about a ethic discussion.
[13:26] <ThePhantomPhreak> six86: Please read https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
[13:27] <cfhowlett> six86 can't help you. sorry.
[13:27] <Grefor> uhm to be frank wasnt there a thing in ubuntu that would send all searches to amazon or something?
[13:27] <cfhowlett> !unity|Grefor
[13:28] <six86> ThePhantomPhreak: I don' get your point...  logkeys is GNU software, if not using for this purpose for what else?!
[13:28] <cfhowlett> Grefor still a FAR cry froma  key logger
[13:29] <jellow> six86,  There is xmacro (  apt-cache show xmacro ) , not sure if that would fit your needs.
[13:29] <ThePhantomPhreak> six86: It's intended for personal use, not for surveillance
[13:30] <Grefor> well atleast your keyboards work
[13:30] <Grefor> i cant get my layout right
[13:30] <six86> It is personal use, it is simply very helpful to have a diary of the embedded research machine. It's not like theres browsing or mails or something. Just configuration and setting up...
[13:30] <six86> but that's not what I want to discuss here.
[13:31] <m1dnight_> cant you just use the hist then for each user?
[13:31] <m1dnight_> or something like that
[13:31] <ThePhantomPhreak> That's how it starts, with benevolent intentions, until you're wiretapping someones phone
[13:31] <ThePhantomPhreak> The abuse of power is a slippery slope
[13:31] <Grefor> "road to hell is paved with good intentions"
[13:31] <jellow> !ot | ThePhantomPhreak
[13:33] <Grefor> anyone familiar with keyboard layout?
[13:34] <Grefor> question marks are dashes andquoyes its driving me nuts
[13:35] <m1dnight_> perhaps azerty?
[13:35] <m1dnight_> I'm working on azerty
[13:35] <m1dnight_> what does pressing 8 do?
[13:36] <Grefor> (
[13:36] <Grefor> mine qwert
[13:36] <Grefor> qwerty
[13:36] <m1dnight_> oh, okay then I can't help you
[13:36] <m1dnight_> I bet there are tools online that can tell you (like the installer for ubuntu)
[13:37] <six86> jellow: xmacro terribly slows down the mouse movement
[13:37] <Grefor> im using dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration but no luck thus far
[13:39] <nethlek> i need some help with my bluetooth headset (getting only static), am i in the right place?
[13:40] <cfhowlett> !bluetooth | nethlek
[13:41] <nethlek> no i got it set up alright, but for whatever reason im getting no sound out of it, only static noise
[13:42] <teaq> hello, can anyone help me out with installing fglrx drivers? something went wrong http://pastebin.com/SLp0xkEn
[13:43] <Laurenceb__> hi
[13:43] <Grefor> !keyboard | Grefor
[13:43] <Laurenceb__> can anyone help me connect to a windows printing system?
[13:44] <Laurenceb__> im struggling to work out what my username will be
[13:44] <Laurenceb__> ive connected to the print server, but its refusing my username
[13:44] <Laurenceb__> i suspect i need to add ad\\<username>
[13:45] <Laurenceb__> or something like that, does anyone know
[13:47] <jellow> six86, for what ever reason xmacrorec is buggy did you try xmacrorec2 ?
[13:49] <six86> jellow: Thats much better
[13:51] <jjavaholic> looking for a crocodile clips like program for linux will consider all suggestions
[13:52] <ThePhantomPhreak> jjavaholic: What is that?
[13:52] <Pici> jjavaholic: uh.. what would such a program do?
[13:52] <cfhowlett> "crocodile clips" ????
[13:52] <teaq> hello, can anyone help me out with installing fglrx drivers? something went wrong http://pastebin.com/SLp0xkEn
[13:53] <jjavaholic> it did alot, circuit diagram, PCB diagrams
[13:54] <jjavaholic> and testing
[13:54] <nethlek> uhm... hello? i still need help
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: tried diag
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> !info diag
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Hmm
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !info dia
[13:55] <nethlek> i cant get my bluetooth headset to work, all i get is static. reading the manual on how to set up a bluetooth device didnt help - its already set up, just not working
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Thats it
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Also
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> !info pcb
[13:56] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip PCB sounds spot on for jjavaholic's request
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Word
[13:56] <Pici> jjavaholic: geda looks good too, although I haven't used it myself.  It looks a bit like Eagle to me.
[13:57] <Pici> !info geda
[13:57] <jjavaholic> I always thought dia was mainly used for UML class diagrams.
[13:57] <Impossible> nethlek: strange, my bluetooth headset works and I just finished installing ubuntu... Only problem is the quality is terrible
[13:57] <nethlek> it took me a long time to even get that thing connected and even longer to have any sound come out of it at all, but static isnt what i was going for
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> nethlek: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: try it, its free to try
[13:59] <nethlek> hang on, ill enter that into the terminal and copy&paste what happens
[13:59] <jellow> six86,  I was playing around with it, works very well. (xmacrorec2 > record)  then play back using (xmacroplay -d 60 "$DISPLAY" < record)
[13:59] <nethlek> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=0f394d86625056fa772e982ca5868f9d75113adf
[13:59] <nethlek> gave me this link
[14:01] <six86> jellow: It goes in the right direction. I just would have to find a way to have it running in background and the thing with the Stop Key is a problem because it can only be a single key. In my scenario i don't want to get the recording stopped if someone pressed the key
[14:02] <six86> The easiest way would be logkeys, if it would be able to log everything and not just the hardware keyboard
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> nethlek: 13.10 is EOL next month. You may want to consider upgrading, either online or via a clean install
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> !away > Ilyes512|Away
[14:05] <nethlek> what does EOL mean? and i've heard 14 is breaking a lot of features and that vlc media isnt working with it, so right now, i rather stay here
[14:06] <ThePhantomPhreak> End of Life - unsupported, will no longer receive security/bug fixes
[14:06] <nethlek> k
[14:07] <jellow> six86, you can define an exit key with the -k parameter ,  xmacrorec2 -k 24 > record ( for the letter q to exit ). Would not be hard to disable re-enable a key although not perfect
[14:08] <nethlek> still, im just trying to get my headset to work. i only have a few more days to decide whether i keep  or return it, but without knowing the sound quality, i cant really make that decision
[14:09] <nethlek> did the file on alsa-project.com yield any answers?
[14:15] <nethlek> uhm... hello?
[14:15] <cfhowlett> nethlek your question is seen ... patience
[14:17] <nethlek> alright, alright, i've never been here before; don't know how you guys handle it. just wanted to make sure i didnt get forgotten
[14:17] <cfhowlett> !patience > nethlek
[14:19] <nethlek> how do i see private messages
[14:19] <ThePhantomPhreak> They should just appear in your IRC client, usually in a new tab
[14:20] <cfhowlett> nethlek depends on your IRC client
[14:20] <nethlek> using xchat
[14:20] <The0x539> though some bad clients show it in-channel
[14:20] <cfhowlett> nethlek new tab
[14:20] <nethlek> i got it
[14:20] <The0x539> but generally it's a tab similar, but not identical, to a channel
[14:20] <The0x539> k
[14:25] <nethlek> bbl, hopefully i dont get timed out
[14:31] <m1dnight_> which music player do you guys recommend for huge libraries? I have my music seperated in folders properly
[14:31] <m1dnight_> and the tags are somehwat in order
[14:31] <m1dnight_> if I can ask here :)
[14:31] <m1dnight_> I tried clementine but it seems a bit outdated
[14:32] <awestroke> m1dnight_: the clementine version in ubuntu repos is outdated, try the version from the website
[14:32] <m1dnight_> oh okay
[14:32] <m1dnight_> will do
[14:33] <ThePhantomPhreak> When aren't the repos outdated? :'(
[14:33] <m1dnight_> yes indeed, Eclipse for example
[14:33] <m1dnight_> it's antique almost
[14:33] <m1dnight_> I wonder why that is
[14:34] <marrio> heloo
[14:35] <marrio> i have a qestion please help me
[14:35] <cfhowlett> !ask|marrio
[14:35] <ThePhantomPhreak> marrio: One sec, activating my telepathy device
[14:35] <infinity1> !patience
[14:36] <genii> marrio: Best to just ask your question to the channel and then see if someone takes up an answer
[14:37] <marrio> i hame call of duty mw3 the prob is not running wery good on my ubuntu
[14:37] <marrio> the grafic is wery bad
[14:37] <marrio> whay
[14:37] <marrio> but on my windows is runing wery good
[14:39] <marrio> please sombody help
[14:40] <Weeper> how can i get UBUNTU printed Tshirt for free?
[14:40] <Weeper> :)
[14:40] <genii> marrio: The simplest answer is: It's not written for Ubuntu, but for Windows.  Pay for the shirt. I did as well.
[14:40] <marrio> my game is running wery bad whay?
[14:40] <cfhowlett> marrio exactomundo
[14:41] <genii> m1dnight_: Language, please
[14:41] <m1dnight_> Weeper: It's a cheap shirt and the quality is awesome
[14:41] <m1dnight_> sorry genii
[14:41] <cfhowlett> "shirt"?  definitely not an ubuntu issue
[14:41] <Scratchy> Hello everybody
[14:41] <m1dnight_> "ubuntu wear", why not?
[14:41] <Weeper> m1dnight :)
[14:42] <cfhowlett> Weeper "no free shirt" but you can download the logo's and get it printed yourself.
[14:42] <Scratchy> First time on Irssi through SSH :) Im a happy camper
[14:42] <genii> Weeper: Why not just save some money and buy one from the Ubuntu Shop, or else have it made locally by a t-shirt printing company.
[14:42] <Scratchy> kinda cool getting and giving all the support I need through IRC ... happy that it is still alive
[14:43] <marrio> my game is running very bad  please help
[14:43] <Weeper> does have worldwide delivery?
[14:43] <m1dnight_> Weeper: I bought it from Belgium, so probably yes
[14:44] <Pici> marrio: are you using Wine to play?
[14:44] <marrio> yes
[14:44] <m1dnight_> Weeper: the site (shop.canonical.com) says it is worlwide
[14:44] <Pici> marrio: Look in the Wine appdb, and ask in #winehq
[14:44] <marrio> on windows is running no prob and on ubuntu not
[14:44] <cfhowlett> marrio your game is written for windows.  WINE only approximates windows.
[14:45] <robynata> steam is good one
[14:45] <cfhowlett> !wine > marrio
[14:46] <marrio> the grafic card is running wery bad probably because is windows game
[14:47] <cfhowlett> marrio ask in #winehq.  not an ubuntu problem
[14:48] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[14:48] <marrio> ok guys
[14:48] <Weeper> m1dnight_  tell me something about quality t-shirt?
[14:48] <cfhowlett> CREEEPEREXPLOSIV please stop.  a simple "hello"
[14:48] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hello
[14:49] <m1dnight_> Weeper: the quality of the t-shirt is excellent. Its soft. So soft I want to cuddle it all day. (Seriously, very soft) and the print is very thick so it'll last a long time
[14:49] <m1dnight_> worth its money twice or three times
[14:49] <m1dnight_> period.
[14:49] <m1dnight_> and you get to support ubuntu \o/
[14:49]  * m1dnight_ is gonna shut up because he doesnt want to be told he's off-topic-ing again
[14:50] <Weeper> m1dnight_ how musch cost shipping from shop.canonical.com?
[14:50] <Weeper> i'm from Bosnia and Herzegovina
[14:50] <robynata> :-S  my ubuntu verry smooth and beutifull
[14:51] <robynata> never get problem from 14.04 alpha:-*
[14:51] <m1dnight_> Weeper: Order your shirt and they will tell you on checkout before you pay. But just because I'm so nice I checked it out for you and it's 6 pounds (10 dollars perhaps?)
[14:52] <ThePhantomPhreak> Weeper: Sorry you lost the football
[14:55] <atul> hey any facebook chat application for ubuntu..plz except empathy
[14:55] <Beldar> Weeper, It's ah beautiful tee shirt I'm sure however we are not assoc with canonical, but volunteers on ubuntu support. ;)
[14:59] <bcvery> !pidgin | atul
[15:00] <one23> hello! i have a problem here. if you are kind. trying to make vncserver up and runing i followed a tutorial and give some commands in terminal. one of them, maybe this one: sudo apt-get install gnome-core gnome-session-fallback changed the whole interface, stuff like icons. i have 14. do you know how do i get back to default interface? i have the link to the tutorial
[15:00] <atul> ubottu: thnks will
[15:00] <archonel> hello, need some help i have a software in python which is supposed to open sockets but it seems its being limited to 1024
[15:01] <archonel> i have set ulimit to 65k
[15:01] <archonel> i see in "/proc/4695/" no more than 1024  folders
[15:01] <archonel> anybody have an idea ?
[15:02] <archonel> ulimit -n = 65535
[15:02] <atul> dont know
[15:02] <linuxuz3r> gparted doesnt support hfs?
[15:02] <atul> ping www.google.com
[15:02] <The0x539> you're doing it wrong
[15:02] <reddit-sysadmin> >.>
[15:02] <The0x539> 2001:4860:4860::8888
[15:04] <archonel> anyone ?
[15:04] <archonel> :)
[15:05] <m1dnight_> archonel: not to be rue, but I found a few hits on SO using Google
[15:05] <m1dnight_> there seems to be an OS limit imposed
[15:05] <m1dnight_> "for linux: cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max"[1~
[15:05] <archonel> m1dnight_, i know, i googled this 2 weeks and tried everything
[15:05] <grodt> whats up fellers
[15:05] <archonel> /proc/sys/fs/file-max = 2451228
[15:06] <m1dnight_> strange
[15:06] <m1dnight_> and ulimit -a?
[15:06] <archonel> ulimit -n = 65535
[15:06] <archonel> want me to paste -a ?
[15:06] <Scratchy> So anybody from Cork ?
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[15:06] <unopaste> atul you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:06] <bcvery> !ot | Scratchy
[15:07] <archonel> i used to use CentOS and switched to Ubuntu since i heard its better (faster) under load
[15:07] <Beldar> linuxuz3r, This a windows or apple computer?
[15:07] <archonel> but i got stuck here and everybody is on my case :(
[15:07] <linuxuz3r> apple
[15:07] <atul> ubuntu
[15:07] <atul> _|_
[15:07] <Monosol> Hey everyone. I've been trying to get my Realtek 8723BE wireless card to work with ubuntu. So far, it hasn't happened with any drivers I've tried.
[15:08] <gas-sho> :/
[15:08] <Beldar> !mac | linuxuz3r this should start you
[15:08] <archonel> besides limit and file-max what else can limit the nr of open files ?
[15:08] <grodt> anyone here work with avionics
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[15:08] <unopaste> atul you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:10] <m1dnight_> archonel: I'm not sure anymore.
[15:10] <m1dnight_> Let me google a bit
[15:10] <Beldar> grodt, Can you get to the actual issue?
[15:10] <m1dnight_> archonel: so it is Python that gives you an error "too many open files" ?
[15:11] <grodt> I wanted to know what would be the best way for a user to load files onto an ubuntu media server
[15:11] <grodt> the easiest way
[15:11] <holstein> grodt: depends..
[15:11] <m1dnight_> something like ftp grodt ?
[15:11] <archonel> m1dnight_, exactly
[15:11] <holstein> grodt: locally with a filemanager, if possible would be fast.. ssh on a network.. depends on many factors
[15:12] <m1dnight_> archonel: I'm not sure, but perhaps it's due to the user?
[15:12] <m1dnight_> Have you tried running it as root?
[15:12] <m1dnight_> (Im just guessing here..)
[15:12] <archonel> no
[15:12] <archonel> the user has the limit set to "65535"
[15:13] <grodt> holstein: m1dnight_  hmm the user would be typically a 50-60 year old who would not be familiar with ssh
[15:13] <m1dnight_> hahahaha
[15:13] <m1dnight_> I mean user in terms of linux users
[15:13] <grodt> its for owners of business jet aircraft
[15:13] <holstein> 17:00 < archonel> hello, need some help i have a software in python which is supposed to open sockets but it seems its being limited to 1024 .. this is your question?
[15:13] <m1dnight_> that's the one
[15:13] <archonel> holstein, yes
[15:14] <red45923> hi guys - looking for howto use mp3 files i have on my ubuntu box to make an audio cd that would play in a car etc something for a dumbo would be perfect :)
[15:14] <holstein> grodt: the user will have to be "familiar" with whatever method you intend them to communicate with the server
[15:14] <archonel> holstein, have any ideas ?
[15:14] <Beldar> !brasero | red45923 an app
[15:14] <holstein> archonel: sure. ask the creator/maintainer of the software
[15:14] <Beldar> !info braseo | red45923
[15:15] <red45923> ah cool I have brasero already - so that does the trick?
[15:15] <holstein> grodt: why not just let them keep the files locally on the machine? whats the goal of the media server? i argue, introducing a server for that user may be overkill
[15:15] <archonel> holstein, its a custom software developed in python, which gives an error "too many open files"
[15:15] <Beldar> !info brasero
[15:15] <Beldar> red45923, ^^^^^
[15:15] <holstein> archonel: sure.. ask the creators/maintainers for support for the applications
[15:15] <archonel> holstein, they say its an OS limit, that is why i am asking here
[15:16] <Beldar> red45923, heh, yeah you can burn cd's there
[15:16] <m1dnight_> archonel: have you tried this: https://coderwall.com/p/ptq7rw
[15:16] <archonel> holstein, like somehow ubuntu is limiting the user to 1024 files
[15:16] <grodt> holstein: they have movies on laptop for exmaple, but want to load files on to media server so it can stream to wifi devices like phones and tablets
[15:16] <red45923> thanks Beldar that is cool
[15:16] <holstein> archonel: ubuntu is not preventing or limiting anything in python
[15:16] <m1dnight_> (mind that the script is run as root, so that's what I meant earlier)
[15:16] <holstein> archonel: are you meeting the requirements the creator has?
[15:17] <holstein> grodt: they can stream them from the laptop as a server.. but, you will need to show them *some* method to put the files on a server, or stream them
[15:17] <Beldar> red45923, I hit edit and turn off the md5sum check though, it saves time, at least on images.
[15:17] <archonel> holstein, yes i am meeting the requirements,  but i se dint he pid folder for this app
[15:17] <holstein> grodt: ssh is a viable option.. ftp.. or samba
[15:17] <holstein> !samba
[15:17] <archonel> holstein, no more than 1024 files
[15:17] <holstein> grodt: all of which have a learning curve
[15:18] <grodt> cool beans thanks
[15:18] <archonel> holstein, its like somehow ubuntu is limiting the nr of concurrent files to 1024
[15:18] <holstein> 17:17 < archonel> holstein, yes i am meeting the requirements,  but i se dint he pid folder for this app - please try again with this sentence
[15:19] <archonel> holstein, sorry, i went into the PID folder "/proc/4695/fd" and using ls -l | wc -l many times, i could not see a number bigger than 1024
[15:19] <holstein> archonel: you can ask in a python community as well.. or a general linux or programming community
[15:21] <archonel> holstein, i did and they blamed it on the operating system :) that is limiting the application form opening more than 1024 sockets
[15:21] <Blaster> Is there any way to sync music from Ubuntu to iPhone?
[15:21] <ThePhantomPhreak> archonel: They're correct, you need to set the limit higher
[15:21] <Grefor> is there a tool that can visualise keymaps?
[15:21] <Blaster> Why does it have to be so complicated to do so?  I don't want to jailbreak my phone to do that.
[15:21] <holstein> archonel: test and confirm that it *is* limiting or not
[15:21] <red45923> Beldar, thx for the tip
[15:21] <Beldar> Blaster, Like a auto sync?
[15:22] <archonel> ThePhantomPhreak, where can i increase the lints, i tried "/etc/security/limits.conf " and /proc/sys/fs/file-max
[15:22] <archonel> am I missing something ?
[15:22] <Beldar> red45923, np
[15:22] <holstein> archonel: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7997012/python-asyncore-filedescriptor-out-of-range-in-select
[15:22] <VRMac|Work> Does anyone here use optimus?
[15:23] <ThePhantomPhreak> Blaster: Tried Banshee? http://banshee.fm/
[15:23] <holstein> VRMac|Work: i have in the past.. i dont use that hardware anymore though
[15:23] <Beldar> VRMac|Work, Address the actual issue for help. ;)
[15:23] <Blaster> I just wanna get some new music on there.  Haven't been able to since I switched from Windows to Ubuntu.
[15:23] <Blaster> Really missing iTunes.
[15:23] <archonel> the programmers claims the software is using "Twisted."
[15:23] <holstein> Blaster: nothing about ubuntu is preventing apple from making that process easy for you in ubuntu/linux
[15:23] <VRMac|Work> Well, I'm trying to get some help at http://askubuntu.com/questions/484097/no-devices-found-when-trying-to-use-nvidia-gpu but the only guy delivering information is absolutely dense.
[15:24] <Beldar> Blaster, you have not said what you have tried so we start here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[15:24] <holstein> Blaster: there are limitations you agreed to when purchasing the device.. i personally suggest trying to address this by sharing and sending information and date bewtween the iphone and your machine on the network
[15:24] <KwaaiWolf> hey
[15:25] <ThePhantomPhreak> Blaster: iPhone compatibility is best with OS X, I suggest purchasing a Mac. Apple products tend to play nicely together
[15:25] <holstein> Blaster: i have used an ftp server on an ipad before to access data from whatever os i choose.. there are other applicaions, such as dropbox, that can do this for you, if you are comfortable using them
[15:25] <archonel> holstein, we are using twisted already
[15:26] <Blaster> I can access the data on the iPhone, it mounts like a drive, but when I drag music on there, it's not recognized.  You have to use iTunes or something to sync it properly.
[15:26] <holstein> archonel: sure, friend.. just know that nothing in ubuntu is preventing you from running that application, and configuring your machine to use it, as you please
[15:26] <holstein> Blaster: correct. thats the agreement you have entered with apple. that you will use itunes
[15:27] <holstein> Blaster: they (apple) are free to release itunes for linux or whatever they choose.. but, they (apple) didnt promise you could use the iphone with linux/ubuntu.. you can find workarounds
[15:27] <VRMac|Work> iPhones have never played nice with any GNU+Linux in my experience.
[15:27] <holstein> Blaster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[15:27] <archonel> holstein, well technically that is not true, ulimit or /proc/sys/fs/file-max can limit the number of open files, my question was more like are there any other places where a no pen file limit could be enforce in Ubuntu ?
[15:27] <Blaster> Half the time I plug my iPhone in, Ubuntu completely freezes :D
[15:28] <holstein> archonel: technically, it *is* true.. you can configure your os as you please
[15:28] <holstein> archonel: if you are editing the config as the creator intends, and its not working, it seems to me like the os is *not* the issue
[15:28] <archonel> holstein, you are right :)
[15:28] <Blaster> holstein, thanks for the link
[15:29] <daftykins> Blaster: i would too if someone put an iPhone near me
[15:29] <archonel> holstein, so there are just those 2 places where the OS could restrict me from opening more files ?
[15:29] <blizzow> Does anyone else here have an intel 7260 wireless card and run 14.04?
[15:29] <holstein> archonel: what would i do? ask the creator what os i am intended to use, and grab a live CD for that OS, and try and get to the bottom of what *exactly* the issue is.. from that situation, i feel i would learn to use the app with ubuntu
[15:29] <holstein> archonel: ubuntu is *not* resctricting anything, friend
[15:29] <daftykins> blizzow: tends to be better to just ask the actual question
[15:29] <Blaster> daftykins, I guess you're allergic to superior hardware, and extremely intuitive software?
[15:30] <holstein> archonel: it will depend on what the app is doing, and needs, as to how you will need to configure whatever OS you are using
[15:30] <blizzow> I want to claw my eyes out because of the network stability issues I have with 14.04 and the 7260 card.
[15:30] <daftykins> Blaster: oooooh dear. i'm not touching that convo with a bargepole
[15:30] <Beldar> blizzow, No comment on what you have tried, peruse here while waiting, http://askubuntu.com/search?q=14.04+intel+7260+
[15:30] <archonel> holstein, if i have the "ulimit -n set  to 1000" for user xxx running the app , that app will not opene more than 1000 sockets
[15:30] <ThePhantomPhreak> Blaster: If you like Apple devices so much, why do you not just use OS X with your phone? Asking genuinely, as I mostly use it rather than Linux
[15:31] <blizzow> daftykins: I've been pretty thorough with those threads.
[15:31] <holstein> archonel: i understand that you are reading that from the developer, but you and i do not know that that is the only issue, friend
[15:31] <archonel> holstein, the problem is that i have set it to 65k and still i can not get more than 1024 open files ( the app opens sockets to remote servers) and it seems i can not open more than 1024
[15:31] <daftykins> blizzow: that wasn't me.
[15:31] <Blaster> ThePhantomPhreak,  because I'm not really fond of OSX, I like iOS though.
[15:31]  * Beldar chuckles
[15:31] <holstein> archonel: why do you have it set to 65k?
[15:32] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hola
[15:32] <archonel> holstein, a random MAX number 65535
[15:32] <Beldar> !es | CREEEPEREXPLOSIV
[15:32] <blizzow> Hence, I have come here to vent about ubuntu saying the intel 7260 wireless is certified hardware for 14.04 (an LTS no less) yet there are boatloads of people experiencing difficulty staying connected.
[15:32] <holstein> archonel: dont set anything randomy.. configure *exactly* as the manufacturer intends
[15:32] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> lla he vueltttttoooooooooooooo¡
[15:32] <holstein> randomly*
[15:33] <blizzow> As you can see, I just got f&&**** bounced ;)
[15:33] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hi
[15:33] <Beldar> blizzow, Do not vent here, no emotion please, this is support not your therapist
[15:34] <holstein> blizzow: could be intel might actually get involved.. have you tried?
[15:35] <holstein> blizzow: the ubuntu certified setup doesnt mean the manufacturer has promised linux support.. its just that a few volunteers have tried to make sure we konw about the level of support
[15:35] <archonel> holstein, in conclusion we want to open more than 1000 connections, and python gives us an error "too many open files" >> the developer said we should increase the Openfile limit in our OS, nothing specific
[15:36] <holstein> archonel: ask themm for something specific
[15:36] <holstein> archonel: nothing in ubuntu is preventing, nor, specifically able to arbitrarily facilitate support for that application
[15:37] <holstein> archonel: ask *specifically* what you are intende to do to run the application they support.. unless they do not provide support for the application
[15:37] <m1dnight_> archonel: Have you tried the script I linked you?
[15:37] <Pici> holstein: actually Ubuntu Certified means that Canonical has actually tested that hardware and has certified that it works well on Ubuntu.
[15:37] <Pici> holstein: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[15:38] <holstein> Pici: then who is responsible? becuase there *is* breakage
[15:38] <holstein> Pici: where should blizzow go for support?
[15:39] <Monosol> Does anyone in the channel run the latest version with the Realtek8723BE card provided by Clevo/Lenovo?
[15:39] <Pici> holstein: I don't know... /me checks
[15:40] <Pici> holstein: although the cerfiication pages do say that 12.04 is the reference release they are testing against... I wonder if that has anything to do with the issues
[15:40] <holstein> Pici: i'll PM you about it?
[15:41] <Beldar> Monosol, https://www.google.com/search?q=Realtek+8723BE+ubuntu&hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&gbv=1&sa=X&as_q=&spell=1&ei=CRCfU8fjOZL5oAT0ioDQAg&ved=0CBEQBSgA  I see a bug and threads here.
[15:41] <Pici> holstein: I'm poking some people about it...
[15:42] <Beldar> seems to be 14.04 problem per askubuntu
[15:43] <Pici> blizzow: Not sure if you saw above, but it looks like Ubuntu Certified hardware has been tested against 12.04, not 14.04.  I'm looking for clarification on how bugs for that should be filed though.
[15:43] <Soapy> hi
[15:44] <Soapy> Im running Ubuntu on a virtual box installation on findows
[15:44] <Soapy> is there a way to tell if my root password is wrong?
[15:44] <ThePhantomPhreak> Soapy: Yes, it won't let you login
[15:44] <Pici> Soapy: There is no root password by default.
[15:44] <Beldar> Soapy, root password or user password?
[15:44] <Soapy> soap@Testapta:~$ su root
[15:44] <Soapy> Password:
[15:44] <Soapy> su: Authentication failure
[15:45] <Soapy> is what i get with any attempted password
[15:45] <Soapy> so that means the passsword is wrong?
[15:45] <Pici> !root | Soapy
[15:45] <Beldar> Soapy, Try to post all in ine line please
[15:45] <Beldar> one*
[15:45] <blizzow> Pici, I did miss some of the above because I was getting disconnected from my wireless.  Strangely, when I google "7260 ubuntu certified" the third entry is a Luanchpad bug saying "no intel wireless 7260 suport on 12.04.03"
[15:48] <holstein> blizzow: you did find a bug report?
[15:49] <Soapy> ok thanks thats complicated it works though
[15:49] <blizzow> holstein: I did tack onto another bug report already.
[15:50] <holstein> blizzow: thats really the "Best" course of action.. if you can find a bug tracker at intel, i would use that as well.. as far upstream as possible.. even with debian if possible
[15:50] <Beldar> Soapy, You want to be aware tat ubuntu is not designed to be run in root, it's not debian and others that do easily, you can mess up permissions....etc
[15:50] <Beldar> that*
[15:51] <blizzow> holstein: yeah... well pushing forth to the 3.14 kernel does not seem to have fixed my issue :(
[15:52] <holstein> blizzow: may not.. though, following up with the bug reports would be the "best" way to get a patch, assuming one can be applied or is available..
[15:52] <Soapy> ok thanks
[15:52] <Beldar> Guest66217, you are root and your IP is showing, not a safe use
[15:53] <Nixilus> yar
[15:55] <Nixilus> quick question, I am using linux heavily for the first time really... when I download and build a program from source, is there a general convention on where programs are stored on linux(ubuntu in particular),... say var, /home/user, /etc/ ? just not sure as im relatively new to this
[15:55] <Beldar> Nixilus, Not really, and be sure you are not building what may already be in the repos
[15:56] <Nixilus> glibc for valgrind
[15:56] <blizzow> holstein: I agree on the procedure, it's just extraordinarily disappointing to see such a busted LTS release with no real solution. :(
[15:56] <Nixilus> ?
[15:56] <Nixilus> for C debuging
[15:56] <Nixilus> when you 'update' it should already update the repos right?
[15:57] <Beldar> Nixilus, THe ones ticked on yes
[15:57] <daftykins> blizzow: i like that a hardware issue leads you to blame the OS
[15:57] <daftykins> not say, the component maker for their Linux drivers
[15:58] <holstein> blizzow: sure. but, think of it like this.. the entire lts is *not* busted in any way.. its just that specific hardware (and other hardware, of course).. it could be that its just a revision of that hardware.. hardware suupport is challenging, and you were not promised linux support from intel
[15:59] <Beldar> changing another's opinions when based on some core value is a waste of time
[16:00] <Nixilus> Ok so I am planning to just have programs installed in my /home/user/ ... thats ok? also when you run apt-get update, that updates repos? repos are consolidated resource to install things via apt-get install right? so If what Im looking for is not in repos. to curl and compile something from source is just as easy as anything else? thanks in advance for the input
[16:02] <cipher__> I added a new entry to sources.list for mongo, and specified version =2.6.1 when installing, yet my mongo shell version displays 2.4.8 every time (which is specified in the Packages file) ?
[16:02] <daftykins> Nixilus: the whole point of a package manged OS is to get packages where possible, sometimes you may find PPAs instead for packages you want though, yes
[16:02] <Nixilus> sorry for the detailed questions... i just dont want to be one of those ppl who just "use" ubuntu, I want to understand it better, especially because im trying to learn C... the hard way
[16:02] <Beldar> Nixilus, Ubuntu has multiple repos, not one, some may be on or off in your sources.list
[16:02] <cipher__> i purged and reinstalled
[16:03] <daftykins> cipher__: if "apt-cache showpkg <package>" reports a specific version after "apt-get update", that's the version that'll go on. perhaps the priority order of your repos is wrong, or maybe the repo you added isn't right for your system.
[16:03] <daftykins> cipher__: you're aware that edits to sources.list are considered in the order they appear in the file?
[16:03] <Beldar> cipher__, ppa's and 3rd party repos and there apps are not supported here technically
[16:05] <Nixilus> to your knowledge Is Valgrind and glibc (valgrind dependancy) in a repository? I want to make sure not just missing something >_<
[16:05] <Pici> Nixilus: valgrind is definitely in the repositories
[16:05] <cipher__> daftykins: "Provides: 2.6.2 2.6.1" etc
[16:05] <Nixilus> damn
[16:05] <Nixilus> sorry
[16:05] <cipher__> it doesn't even list 2.4.8
[16:05] <blizzow> holstein: and daftykins, I'm not blaming the lack of HW support.  I am also not saying the LTS distro is broken.  I am saying there is something busted in the ubuntu methodology of releasing an "LTS" that has such a major regression in it.
[16:05] <Nixilus> im doing something wrong then
[16:06] <Beldar> Nixilus, In your reasoning you have your horse following your cart.
[16:06] <cipher__> Beldar: well, i prefer mid engines myself
[16:07] <Beldar> cipher__, bicycle here
[16:07] <daftykins> blizzow: right, which is a claim you can't support because you don't know where the issue lies?
[16:07] <holstein> blizzow: but, the lts, and all other aspects of linux/ubuntu are open, and its open for the creators and vendors of the hardware to get involved and provide support.. which is what we are seeing more often.. at the end of the day, the creators didnt promise you linux support, so you must be comfortable providing it yourself
[16:07] <cipher__> Actually, when i just installed (again), it showed 2.6.2 and 2.6.1 as installing
[16:07] <cipher__> yet the shell is displaying 2.4.8
[16:08] <daftykins> cipher__: likely it has installed under a slightly different name then
[16:08] <blizzow> daftykins: I'm pretty sure I know the issue lies in the kernel/firmware choice the ubuntu devs made.
[16:08] <daftykins> blizzow: firmware provided by intel you mean?
[16:09] <blizzow> holstein: the certification process is not something that I as the end user hardware purchaser can take part in.
[16:10] <Nixilus> so apt-cache showpkg valgrind     will allow me to search the repos for the right package then
[16:10] <holstein> blizzow: when you bought that hardware, a company paid a group of professionals to test and provide support for a certain operating system.. when you decide to use a different, and unsupported operating system, you are taking that responsibility on
[16:10] <invincea_> using crontab i want to just "visit" a url, would i do that? i have a script that needs to be run every few minutes
[16:10] <Nixilus> got it
[16:10] <Nixilus> cool
[16:11] <invincea_> wget?
[16:11] <Nixilus> must have mis-spelled it the first time
[16:11] <Nixilus> >_<
[16:11] <daftykins> invincea_: or curl
[16:11] <iptable> invincea_, "just visit url"?
[16:11] <Pici> Nixilus: just using apt-get install valgrind will install it, or use apt-cache search valgrind to look for packages that match that.
[16:11] <Beldar> Nixilus, Open software sources and make sure you have the appropriate repos open.
[16:11] <iptable> invincea_, use wget. wget http://www.google.co.uk/
[16:11] <daftykins> Nixilus: you can always use graphical package managers too
[16:11] <blizzow> daftykins: you mean the multiple working versions that exist at wireless.kernel.org?  Yes, the ubuntu dev and release team had the opportunity to test with and choose a functioning version before releasing an "LTS".
[16:12] <holstein> blizzow: it can be a different revision as well.. which could have a different chipset.. the manufacturer would only need to release a different windows driver to support all the different revisions, and be compliant with the agreement they have
[16:13] <daftykins> blizzow: that topic aside, since it seems we can't sway you from your inaccurate opinion on who to blame... it's interesting that that card should give trouble as i believe system76 sell laptops with 14.04 64-bit installed with that card
[16:14] <Beldar> externalizing blame is a core value, it will not be changed here, stop helping them
[16:14] <Blaster> Anyone know of a video card that supports 3 video outputs and is well supported by Ubuntu?
[16:16] <iptable> blizzow, the features of your buggy card are well supported :P
[16:17] <Nixilus> ho man, thanks for all the hlep, Ive used ubuntu ("plebily") in the past but never really took time to understand it or learn command definitions tried to learn C++ on Windows. A friend finally told me "No, Terabad! use linux and dont depend on IDEs.... he pointed me to http://c.learncodethehardway.org/book/ ... lol.. Im finally having to kick it up into a higher gear >_<
[16:17] <philinux> SWAP - is there anything more up to date than this anywhere > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[16:18] <Beldar> philinux, what is your end goal?
[16:18] <daftykins> philinux: things in that regard don't change much
[16:18] <holstein> blizzow: i like the system76 idea above.. i would think, assuming that *is* the exact hardware revision, they (system76) would respond to an email about the device
[16:19] <iptable> blizzow, the card works, what is your exact problem? most people who complain about their wireless cards find at the end that the cards did not work well with their AP, changing the access point to another make/model resolves most people's issues (after hours of arguing that "it can't be that, works with my phone")
[16:19] <philinux> Beldar;~  daftykins Most machines have much more ram and larger disks than in the faq. It's well out of date now
[16:19] <blizzow> daftykins: you say I should blame intel, or the linux kernel devs for the LTS kernel and firmware choice when there are versions of the firmware and kernel that work fine?
 philinux, what is your end goal?
[16:19] <daftykins> blizzow: i really don't care who you blame, just as long as we don't have to hear about it in here.
[16:20] <philinux> Beldar;~ to find up to date info
[16:20] <Beldar> if you stop answering them they will go away or get quited or banned
[16:20] <Beldar> quieted
[16:21] <iptable> is ndiswrapper still under development?
[16:21] <Beldar> philinux, Sounds like OCD swap is swap not much to really know to be honest.
[16:21] <holstein> iptable: AFAIK
[16:22] <iptable> intel 7260 with ndiswrapper then if problems otherwise
[16:23] <philinux> Beldar;~ peeps ask me about swap. I refer them to the faq's and they say but I have 8 gig ram etc etc
[16:23] <Beldar> philinux, 8 0r 1000 no difference in use
[16:24] <philinux> Beldar;~ there is if its a small ssd and they want to hibernate etc etc
[16:24] <Beldar> philinux, swappiness is probably the key here.
[16:24] <iptable> philinux, do you want to support hibernation on your machine? Then your whole RAM needs to fit in swap + some space for stuff that gets swapped out normally if not used for a while. Rule of thumb would be 1.5xRAM. So for 8GB RAM 12GB SWAP should be fine.
[16:25] <Beldar> philinux, well known equal to ram or slightly larger
[16:25] <iptable> philinux, alternatively, if you want to use SWAP for hibernation only, turn swappiness down to 0 and have swap the size of RAM (+ a few bytes just in case)
[16:25] <Beldar> iptable, 0 is not exactly correct
[16:25] <blizzow> iptable: I'm using multiple cisco aironet 2600 series APs connected to a cisco wireless lan controller.  None of my connection issues happened until I upgraded to the latest version of ubuntu.  After the upgrade, I can't even connect to an airport express access point.
[16:26] <tyrel_> hello
[16:26] <iptable> Beldar, vm.swappiness = 0 	The kernel will swap only to avoid an out of memory condition
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> tyrel_: welcome
[16:26] <Beldar> i'ts not that exacting at that numerical value it will swap still
[16:26] <tyrel_> mucking around in ubuntu, not sure what i'm doing
[16:27] <iptable> blizzow, try ndiswrapper and report back.
[16:27] <Beldar> iptable, If you read up on this 0 is never suggested is all.
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> tyrel_: this is the right place for an ubuntu question :p
[16:27] <iptable> Beldar, well, 0 works on my laptop perfect. 16GB of RAM, I don't care about swap. having said that hibernation takes so long, I don't do that either
[16:28] <Beldar> iptable, Ah, works for you, cool, but do the research if you help here is all. ;)
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> iptable: ive set swappiness on 10 (for my ssd)
[16:29] <iptable> Beldar, researching and any OOM issues with swappiness are onloy quotes for 2.x kernels. none for 3.x where behaviour changed
[16:29] <iptable> lotuspsychje, I don't have ssd. It's a laptop with 1 2TB HDD
[16:29] <Beldar> mindless ego jousting geez
[16:30] <iptable> Beldar, well I'm more than happy to never advise people to put it to 0 if you can give me a link for that.
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> iptable: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness
[16:34] <iptable> lotuspsychje, so swappiness 10 is about 80-90% full RAM. Well, with 4GB of RAM I would probably consider that actually. With 16GB of RAM, if I run out of RAM, I am doing something wrong.
[16:34] <theseb> help! I woke up this mornin and all my icons are numbered and there is a "t" on my trash can...what gives?
[16:34] <theseb> is this preschool mode i just activated? :)
[16:34] <iptable> theseb, uhm, as in the icons have small numbeers on them?
[16:34] <Beldar> !details | theseb
[16:34] <theseb> iptable: YES!
[16:35] <iptable> theseb, nice effect.
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> iptable: i just tweak as much as i possibly can, on recommended settings so swappiness 10 works for me
[16:36] <theseb> ubottu, Beldar, iptable: see http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2014-06-16_11_34_58-iUrS1Utd.png  ..is this a new "feature" ?
[16:36] <ana_> Hey, can someone help me to get google chrome to autostart on initial boot?
[16:36] <daftykins> lol
[16:36] <daftykins> theseb: press left alt
[16:36] <holstein> ana_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/459277/how-do-i-make-a-program-auto-start-everytime-i-log-in-in-ubuntu-14-04
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> iptable: i also use, fstab ssd tweaks, quiet splash off,daily trim and preload
[16:37] <theseb> daftykins: i pressed both....same :(
[16:37] <iptable> theseb, apparently these are the icon numbers your press while holding "Super" to quickly open them
[16:37] <holstein> theseb: have you logged out and back in?
[16:37] <daftykins> oh it's super? *shrug* :D
[16:37] <iptable> theseb, as to why the numbers actually show, must be a setting somewhere? tried turning it off and on again? ;)
[16:37] <iptable> daftykins, windows/super/tux button. choose a name ;)
[16:37] <theseb> holstein: i *did* clean my keyboard which entails pressing all keys haphhazardly...could that have hosed my desktop?
[16:38] <daftykins> iptable: i meant versus 'alt' which i thought it was, yes i'd always refer to it as super to be platform agnostic
[16:38] <holstein> theseb: yes. you should do that when the keyboard is unplugged
[16:38] <holstein> theseb: you didnt "hose" anything.. you just asked for the functionality that is present.. have you rebooted? or logged out and back in?
[16:38] <theseb> ok..i shall restart X win.....sec
[16:39] <iptable> theseb, most likely yes. your "super" and other keys might be stuck. 1. unplug keyboard, 2. press all buttons firmly (but don't bang the keyboard). 3. plug it in, 4. reboot machine
[16:39] <theseb> SUCCESS!!!
[16:39] <theseb> thanks guys
[16:39] <iptable> no probs :D
[16:39] <theseb> new motto..."When in doubt...reboot it out"
[16:40] <holstein> theseb: i think it should be, unplug the keyboard and other devices while cleaning..
[16:40] <theseb> holstein: i put it in screen lock but that isn't sufficient
[16:40] <iptable> and turn it off
[16:41] <Beldar> theseb, I would shut down honestly
[16:41] <iptable> theseb, one of your keys got stuck in "on" state in the buffer most likely
[16:41] <ana_> @holstein I'm using xubuntu, didn't seem to help, I already tried going to session and startup and adding google chrome to the auto start list
[16:41] <theseb> k thanks again
[16:41] <holstein> ana_: http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.com/2011/12/add-application-to-xfcexubuntu-session.html
[16:42] <theseb> Beldar: you mean you shut down the entire PC when cleaning the kb?
[16:42] <iptable> ana_, in xubuntu "session and startup" does exactly that
[16:42] <holstein> theseb: yes.. or unplug the device you are cleaning..
[16:43] <theseb> i didn't realize random key presses could be soo......"dangerous"
[16:43] <Beldar> theseb, Yes, and have your air can to make sure no moisture is in any contacts, just a safe use plan.
[16:43] <iptable> theseb, this will be very relevant to you http://xkcd.com/237/