[00:09] <anolis> hey guys i attempted upgrade a few minutes ago it got all the way through fine until it got to trying to update scrollkeeper, and then kinda died with 3 I/O errors complaining about not being able to load a web entity
[00:09] <anolis> so as a result most gnome related apps would not install
[00:10] <crimsun> mm Evolution can't grab my e-mail due to a field change
[00:10] <crimsun> (evolution:#####): e-data-server-ui-WARNING **: Key file does not have group 'Passwords-Mail'
[00:13] <anolis> lol the problem app seems to have fixed itself
[01:00] <anolis> dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[01:01] <crimsun> what's the actual error?
[01:01] <crimsun> and, what $ARCH?  (`uname -m`)
[01:02] <anolis> lemme post to pastebin.. hold on
[01:02] <anolis> 64bit
[01:03] <crimsun> right, known issue on 64-bit
[01:04] <crimsun> it's the ia32-libs issue
[01:04] <anolis> oh ok so a fix is probably on the way i guess lol
[01:04] <crimsun> well, it's a bit trickier than usual
[01:04] <crimsun> the source package is nearly 450 MB
[01:05] <anolis> wow
[01:05] <anolis> well it's fine i have vmware and a laptop if i absolutely need flash
[01:05] <anolis> would it work if i tunneled the firefox from my laptop through ssh?
[01:42] <amblin> :q
[02:23] <DanaG> argh, trying git compiz:  (gtk-window-decorator:25639): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_insert_internal: assertion `hash_table->ref_count > 0' failed
[03:17] <Hirvinen_> Hi. Just aptitude safe-upgraded and since there was a kernel upgrade, rebooted. Now <command> | less in bash says "bash:  less: command not found"
[03:17] <Hirvinen_> less <file> works though.
[03:18] <Hirvinen_> /usr/bin is in my path and which less says points there.
[03:19] <RAOF> Hirvinen_: bash defines all sort of funky $LESSPIPE stuff, to make less play better.
[03:19] <crdlb> well, it's weird that there are two spaces between 'bash:' and 'less:'
[03:19] <RAOF> This may be the source of the problem.  It is wierd, though.
[03:19] <crdlb> as if bash thinks the command is ' less'
[03:20] <Hirvinen_> Gee. <command> |less works.
[03:20] <Hirvinen_> Thanks.
[03:20] <RAOF> bug fililng time!
[03:20] <Hirvinen_> yyup
[03:42] <DanaG> Arfgh, my touchpad keeps forgetting where its right edge is.
[04:07] <alka_trash> how is "The Hardy"
[04:07] <alka_trash> ?
[04:53] <Hirvinen_> Interesting. "echo foo | less" => "bash:  less: command not found". But after "echo foo |less" "echo foo | less" works fine.
[04:59] <crdlb> that's quite a bug :)
[05:11] <Hirvinen_> That previous thing happens at least on bash, zsh, tcsh but not on dash(it doesn't start working.)
[05:17] <Hirvinen_> Whoa, gets even weirder. "echo foo | less" *written* after issuing "echo foo |less" fails. It will succeed however, *if* I go back in command history to "echo foo |less" and add the space.
[05:19] <Hirvinen_> And it affects other commands as well, not just less. I just failed to notice that earlier, I guess because I just edited a prior command from less to cat.
[05:24] <Rubin> sounds like your bash environment is messed up
[05:25] <Rubin> and /or one instance of less is not what it seems
[05:28] <blkorpheus> 2.6.24-4 is broken
[05:29] <Hirvinen_> Rubin: zsh, tcsh and dash as well
[05:29] <Rubin> Hirvinen_, maybe you have a root kit :)
[05:30] <blkorpheus> lol
[05:32] <Hirvinen_> And why on earth would they break my pipes?
[05:32] <Rubin> they play tricks with the path to hide their tools
[05:33] <Rubin> sometimes less is one of the things monkied with so you cant see their kit
[05:36] <Hirvinen_> Hmm...
[05:37] <Hirvinen_> Well, the broken thing isn't less, as a lot of other commands exhibit similar behavior when preceded by "| "
[08:03] <Sebastian> Any idea how I can get rid off these errors during package upgrades: http://phpfi.com/290082
[08:06] <Hobbsee> got US langpacks installed on your system?
[08:24] <Sebastian> Hobbsee: Let me check. At least I did not uninstall them.
[08:31] <Sebastian> Hobbsee: Looks like it was uninstalled by some package upgrade. Installing it would break OOo, though.
[08:31] <Hobbsee> that'll be why, then.
[08:32] <Sebastian> I wonder if I should reinstall from scratch using the current Hardy image.
[08:33] <Hobbsee> wouldn't bother
[08:33] <Hobbsee> it'll be likely listed as uninstallable
[08:33] <Hobbsee> so should get fixed
[08:33] <Sebastian> Okay.
[08:43] <Oli```> oo new kernel?
[08:45] <Oli```> Hey, I've got a AMD64 chip. I want to be on 32bit until Flash, Java and other people feel the need to release their stuff properly, but which version of the Kernel should I be on? -generic or -386 ?
[08:47] <geser> Oli```: -generic
[08:47] <Oli```> Why's that? (I'm not questioning the validity of the answer, just curious)
[08:49] <geser> -i386 is for those who have a problem with -generic, it has some options disabled like nosmp
[08:51] <Oli```> *THAT'S* why I've only got one core of my processor working at the moment! D'oh! Yeah I set the graphics up in -386 and couldn't be arsed going through all that again for -generic... Plus -386 was the default for the alpha3 install... I've just checked and this update made -generic the default
[08:51] <lemonade> is -generic optimized for i586 or i686?
[08:51] <Oli```> Thanks for your help geser
[08:53] <geser> lemonade: I guess no specific optimization so it can work on all processors (i586,i686,k7,k8,etc.)
[08:53] <lemonade> ok
[09:27] <Oli``> He I was just about to restart onto the new kernel and then I thought about the graphics driver headache (need to use default driver, then get and install restricted driver, configure and restart) but could I install the restricted driver *before* I restarted? Ie install the driver for kernel -4 while I'm still on -3?
[09:29] <nanonyme> normal Linux way probably yes but i have no idea what the restricted driver management part of Ubuntu actually does
[09:32] <Oli``> No, me neither... oh well looks like it's 10 minutes of mucking around with graphics drivers for me then =(
[09:44] <Oli``> guys how do I maximise a window without a mouse?
[09:45] <Oli``> if you could type a few more lines in so I could see the answer, that would be greatly appreciated... I can't see the bottom of my xchat window =(
[09:47] <Amaranth> Oli``: Alt-Spacebar pulls up the window menu
[09:47] <Amaranth> line
[09:47] <Amaranth> line
[09:47] <Amaranth> line
[09:47] <Amaranth> :P
[09:48] <Oli``> Oh I can't see what you wrote >_<
[09:49] <lemonade> :)
[09:50] <Ryuho> how do i copy stuff from ssh connection to my local machine?
[09:50] <lemonade> use sftp or scp
[09:51] <Oli``> The damned menu doesn't work lol... okay back to -3 for me
[10:01] <Oli``> well this is just splendiferous. I'm stuck in 640*480!
[10:01] <Oli``> With no mouse!
[10:02] <Oli``> Hell, there's no room for a mouse at this res
[10:02] <Oli``> But I can see the whole of xchat... and I have compiz to keep me company
[10:05] <Oli``> Is there a x-Armageddon command I can let off to nuke my X into a nice default so I can a) have my mouse back and b) use a decent res?
[10:21] <Oli``> Well I should have used some common sense there... Restoring a backup of my xorg.conf worked...
[10:59] <spike> hi, just wondering if someone could comment on this, hardy installer doesnt give me an option to create an encrypted lvm volume. is that expected?
[12:07] <aslan> I just upgraded from Gutsy on my laptop, it has an nVidia 8600m GT... rebooted, and now when loading all I get is a white screen... any ideas?
[12:28] <DeepB> aslan: try #ubuntu, for Gutsy issues
[12:29] <beerockxs> is java broken in hardy?
[12:29] <beerockxs> meaning sun-java6-jre
[12:30] <void^> worksforme
[12:30] <beerockxs> eclipse works, but starting any app using "java -jar app.jar makes java crash
[12:31] <void^> if it's a gui app, you might need LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=true (in your environment)
[12:31] <beerockxs> e.g.: http://pastebin.com/m202c9f03
[12:31] <beerockxs> yes, it is a GUI app
[12:32] <void^> yes, just export LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=true first
[12:32] <beerockxs> void^: ok, thanks. can you explain why?
[12:33] <void^> bug in java - the old xlib doesn't care about it, but xcb does.
[12:33] <void^> see http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6532373 for details
[12:34] <beerockxs> void^: thanks
[13:42] <JoeLinux117> Does anyone know where the Hardy Server Sparc release is?
[13:42] <JoeLinux117> I'm trying to test the Alpha release, but it's nowhere to be found on the Tracker website.
[13:44] <JoeLinux117> Is there a Hardy Sever Sparc release at all?
[13:59] <JoeLinux117> Does anyone know if there's going to be a Hardy Desktop Sparc?
[14:01] <JoeLinux117> Ok...
[14:32] <Sonja> what are the main differences/improvements with hardy vs gutsy
[14:32] <Sonja> !hardy
[14:32] <ubotu> hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:33] <stdin> difference? Gutsy is stable, Hardy is not
[14:33] <Sonja> i mean, when hardy is released
[14:33] <Sonja> it will be stable at that point
[14:33] <Sonja> will it not?
[14:33] <stdin> it will, yes
[14:34] <Sonja> what are the biggest changes i will notice or like, as a person woh used to use winxp
[14:34] <stdin> who knows, the features aren't all in place yet and not all finalised. it's still in development
[14:35] <Tomcat_> Sonja: I think that question is better suited for #ubuntu ;)
[14:35]  * Hobbsee suggests actually reading the release notes for the alphas, on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>before asking silly questions like that.
[14:35] <Tomcat_> Hobbsee: The release notes aren't that good last time I checked... the Beta wiki pages are *much* better. :D
[14:36] <Hobbsee> Tomcat_: feel free to help out with them.
[14:36] <Tomcat_> Hobbsee: Oh, sorry... I'm wrong. :)
[14:36] <Tomcat_> Just looked at them again and see that there's a wiki page for changes.
[14:36] <Hobbsee> yes, which are linked off the release mails
[14:37] <Tomcat_> Sonja: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/hardy/alpha3
[14:38] <Tomcat_> Sonja: Best is to just try it out. LiveCDs don't hurt. But use 7.10, not hardy (which is in development)
[14:38] <Sonja> thanks
[14:49] <tifine> when i m on text mode in ubuntu why its doesnt show onthe full screen it only shows in the middle of the screen
[14:49] <tifine> I mean the actual text!
[14:50] <void^> laptop/tft?
[14:50] <tifine> laptop
[14:51] <void^> then i'd guess it's not running at the native resolution of the display and the laptop isn't scaling it up. my old ibm laptop used to do that, though there was some fn-combination to make it scale (ugly).
[14:52] <tifine> !fn-combination
[14:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fn-combination - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:53] <tifine> void^: fn-combination
[14:58] <mrtimdog> What's the difference between 'stroke' and 'fill' in the Annotate compiz pluging?
[17:26] <MGrunde> What seems to be the problem with apparmor in alpha 2/3?
[17:32] <WorkingOnWise> doesn't sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg allow me to set up my video card and monitor?
[17:36] <WorkingOnWise> any idea why it stops after it get done with keyboard setup?
[17:54] <WorkingOnWise> can someone tell me why my xorg.conf looks like this?  http://pastebin.ca/857448
[18:01] <UnNaturalHigh> where should I file bug reports related to hardy?
[18:02] <blkorpheus> wow
[18:03] <blkorpheus> try googling that question
[18:03] <blkorpheus> you could probably take a guss and be right
[18:03] <blkorpheus> guess
[18:03] <silent> what stage is hardy at right now?
[18:03] <silent> for development
[18:04] <timing> seriously, why is update-manager putting error windows on wrong workspaces?
[18:04] <blkorpheus> google it
[18:04] <blkorpheus> have not seen such behavior
[18:04] <timing> hmm
[18:05] <timing> you can test it now i think
[18:05] <timing> if i click partial upgrade now
[18:05] <timing> and go back to this workspace
[18:05] <blkorpheus> "partial upgrade"?
[18:05] <timing> yeah
[18:05] <blkorpheus> I don't do partials
[18:05] <blkorpheus> I just did a full upgrade
[18:06] <timing> that's what the package maneger tells me
[18:06] <blkorpheus> If I were you, I would not
[18:06] <timing> "Not all updates can be installed"
[18:06] <blkorpheus> stick with Gutsy
[18:06] <timing> i'm already 2 weeks on hardy
[18:06] <blkorpheus> because if you are having issues upgrading, thenyou will have a rough time
[18:07] <blkorpheus> wow
[18:07] <blkorpheus> 2 weeks on a partially upgraded system
[18:07] <blkorpheus> I don't see how
[18:07] <timing> it's just one package
[18:07] <blkorpheus> which package?
[18:07] <timing> this upgrading bug was 4 times in launchpad already
[18:08] <timing> anyway, the errormsg will apear on the wrong workspace
[18:08] <timing> minimized
[18:08] <timing> this libflickrnet
[18:09] <timing> blkorpheus: but my first upgrade to hardy was successful
[18:09] <timing> and the updates after that as well
[18:09] <timing> until this flickrnet came
[18:09] <blkorpheus> ah
[18:09] <blkorpheus> thats an issue for everyone
[18:09] <blkorpheus> google it, and you'll see there is a bug report for it
[18:10] <timing> yeah i just said there were 4
[18:10] <timing> but update errors are okay with my
[18:10] <timing> i'm not whining about those
[18:10] <timing> i'm whining about the error windows which apear at weird places
[18:12] <blkorpheus> have not seen weird errors at odd places
[18:18] <timing> blkorpheus: are you using compiz?
[18:18] <timing> maybe that's putting windows on wrong places
[18:18] <blkorpheus> of course I am
[18:19] <blkorpheus> My system runs damn near perfect
[18:19] <blkorpheus> better than gutsy forsure
[18:33] <rama_8086> hi
[18:33] <rama_8086> to all
[18:35] <WorkingOnWise> can someone tell me why my xorg.conf looks like this?  http://pastebin.ca/857448. I have already done sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and sudo dpkg-reconfigure-phigh xserver-xorg, and cleared the xorg.conf and reran each. still no change. It will go thru the keyboard part, then exit. I have also added             Driver     "nv"  to the Device section, under the Identifier, as recommended here http://pastebin.ca/857481
[18:38] <ToxinPowe> WorkingOnWise, are you screen and graphics preferences empty?
[18:40] <ToxinPowe> I use hardy in vbox and I dont have change my resolution, I think its a bug
[18:40] <ToxinPowe> and Im waiting for upgrades
[18:41] <WorkingOnWise> ToxinPowe: not emty, but they say "Configured Device" and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg exits after the keyboard section
[18:42] <ToxinPowe> empty Screen and Graphics preferences in Administration menu, not xorg
[18:43] <WorkingOnWise> ToxinPowe: oh...yes they are.
[18:44] <ToxinPowe> I think that is the same problem
[19:02] <timing> what's this evolution-data-server thing doing on 100% of one cpu?
[19:47] <WorkingOnWise> if I copy my /var/cache/apt/archives to a new installation, and then do « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade », will apt-get still try to download all 1613 packages, or just the ones newer than in the cache?
[20:28] <wobblywu> dependencies*
[21:36] <DarkMageZ> lol, gotta love hardy breakage ^-^. the new evolution packages break sending & receiving emails for some people =D
[21:47] <hydrogen> mm
[21:47] <hydrogen> its evolution
[21:47] <hydrogen> what do youe xpect
[22:07] <mp10> are packages in 8.10 reviewed by the ubuntu security team?
[22:11] <crdlb> mp10: 8.10 doesn't exist yet
[22:12] <crdlb> 7.10 is the latest release, and 8.04 is in development


[12:09] <Erick> hi need some help with installing from HD (NOT CDROM). Is this the right channel?
[12:09] <Erick> to discuss?
[06:26] <tepsipakki> cjwatson: yay, gfxboot works now?
[08:23] <superm1> cjwatson, I wrote a patch for https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/130445 in my branch at https://code.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/ubiquity/mythbuntu-ubiquity if you would be able to look at it and possibly merge
[08:26] <tepsipakki> cjwatson: so it seems.. sleep well :)
[10:02] <cjwatson> tepsipakki: yeah. please check whether new gfxboot patches change APIs all over the place in future :)
[10:06] <cjwatson> it had interesting knock-on effects all the way into the theme font and stuff
[10:15] <cjwatson> superm1: looks great to me, more or less exactly how I'd have done it
[10:16] <CIA-20> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2169 ubiquity/ (9 files in 6 dirs): merge from Mario
[10:46] <tepsipakki> cjwatson: I'll be very careful even when thinking of starting to merge syslinux/gfxboot in the future :)
[04:24] <tepsipakki> cjwatson: by the way, dapper installation with the new debconf worked just fine
[04:25] <cjwatson> great
[05:28] <CIA-20> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2170 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py):
[05:28] <CIA-20> ubiquity: * Run apt's DoInstall() method with stdin redirected from /dev/null, to
[05:28] <CIA-20> ubiquity:  stop it hijacking the debconf protocol (LP: #130843).
[06:17] <CIA-20> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2161 tribe-4/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py): cherry-pick r2170 from trunk
[06:24] <CIA-20> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2162 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[06:24] <CIA-20> ubiquity: * Automatic update of included source packages: apt-setup 1:0.21ubuntu2,
[06:24] <CIA-20> ubiquity:  base-installer 1.81ubuntu1, partman-auto 69ubuntu5.
[06:25] <cjwatson> (that was really the tribe-4 branch)
[06:28] <CIA-20> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2163 tribe-4/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.5.7
[06:41] <CIA-20> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2171 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog): merge tribe-4 branch
[06:43] <superm1> i'm a bit confused, was this tribe-4 branch just made for doing the tribe 4 release?
[06:47] <evand> superm1: yes, there were changes to ubiquity that were in bzr but were not released as a version.  As they were somewhat large, it was decided they should not be included for tribe-4.
[06:47] <evand> At least that's what my understanding was
[06:47] <superm1> i see
[06:47] <superm1> well that's sensible
[07:07] <cjwatson> correct
[07:07] <cjwatson> pitti told me to do it. :)
[08:05] <superm1> cjwatson, so is the plan to do some incremental testing releases with the bigger changes right after tribe-4 but before tribe-5 in the form of dailies?
[08:07] <evand> superm1: Can you clairfy that?  Daily CD images are always built.  Do you mean daily images tagged with specific features and announced to the community?
[08:07] <superm1> evand, i mean incremental testing releases of ubiquity in the dailies
[08:08] <superm1> for testing/showing those "bigger" changes to ubiquity
[08:10] <evand> I'm sorry, I'm having a really hard time understanding people today.  If you mean additional releases of Ubiquity between now and Tribe-5 that include the changes that didn't make it into Tribe-4 as well as changes that have occurred since then, then yes, we will do that.
[08:10] <superm1> yea that's what i had meant :)
[11:41] <superm1> cjwatson, in the tribe 4 release, were any of the mythbuntu frontend changes added in?
[11:46] <cjwatson> no, I'm afraid not
[11:46] <cjwatson> I explicitly branched to avoid all the churn that hadn't been uploaded yet
[11:46] <cjwatson> they'll go in in the next upload, which will be well before tribe-4
[11:46] <cjwatson> err
[11:46] <cjwatson> well before tribe-5
[11:47] <superm1> oh ok.  well i'll make sure to upload to our 3rd party repo then until then
[11:48] <superm1> we're  lagging behind by about 2-3 weeks on our alphas anyhow, so that will work out well


[06:31] <punkgeek> Hello, I have many ubuntu VM which is not possible to conenct  and update them manually. Is there any method for automatically update them?


[02:57] <mup> Bug #2023125 opened: MAAS 3.3.3 Errors When Deploying Rocky9 <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2023125>
[04:48] <mup> Bug #2023138 opened: Deleted machines don't correctly update MAAS web UI <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2023138>
[08:33] <mup> Bug #2023125 changed: MAAS 3.3.3 Errors When Deploying Rocky9 <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2023125>
[08:36] <mup> Bug #2023125 opened: MAAS 3.3.3 Errors When Deploying Rocky9 <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2023125>
[08:42] <mup> Bug #2023125 changed: MAAS 3.3.3 Errors When Deploying Rocky9 <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2023125>
[14:27] <mup> Bug #2023207 opened: MAAS Images show "last deployed" as null even after being deployed <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2023207>
[14:30] <mup> Bug #2023207 changed: MAAS Images show "last deployed" as null even after being deployed <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2023207>
[14:39] <mup> Bug #2023207 opened: MAAS Images show "last deployed" as null even after being deployed <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2023207>
[14:42] <mup> Bug #2023207 changed: MAAS Images show "last deployed" as null even after being deployed <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2023207>
[14:48] <mup> Bug #2023207 opened: MAAS Images show "last deployed" as null even after being deployed <MAAS:Triaged by lloydwaltersj> <MAAS 3.4:Triaged by lloydwaltersj> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2023207>
[20:30] <mup> Bug #1938321 changed: "all" mode snap upgrade from 2.7 to 2.8 fails <MAAS:Fix Released by ack> <snapd:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1938321>


[00:04] <securityxxxpert> Hey guys
[00:05] <securityxxxpert> How's Gnome 3 holding out on 11.10?
[00:19] <IdleOne> it doesn't for me
[00:19] <IdleOne> Unity seems to be working fine though
[00:24] <securityxxxpert> IdleOne:  What do you think of Unity?
[00:24] <IdleOne> taking me time to get used to it but I am starting to like it more
[00:25] <IdleOne> matter of being open to doing things a little differently
[00:26] <Somelauw> is unity suitable for mouseless working?
[00:27] <securityxxxpert> IdleOne:  Yeah I haven't been able to try it yet, I want to try it in virtual box
[00:29] <IdleOne> Somelauw: if you mean using keyboard shortcuts, yes.
[00:29] <Somelauw> i mean completely controlled by keyboard shortcuts
[00:34] <IdleOne> pretty much I believe you can
[00:35] <IdleOne> Don't know why you would want to
[01:15] <cgroza> hello, how do I update to Oneiric via update manaer or apt?
[01:15] <cgroza> I am running Natty
[01:17] <cgroza> anyone?
[01:19] <yofel> cgroza: run 'gksu update-manager -d'
[01:19] <charlie-tca> cgroza: normally starting with the release notes at
[01:19] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview
[01:22] <cgroza> yofel: thanks.
[01:22] <yofel> do read the release notes though like charlie-tca said
[01:23] <cgroza> ok, thanks yor the tip
[01:23] <xiljin> cgroza: are you upgrading now?
[13:39] <Ian_Corne> nvidia is back! :d
[13:39] <Ian_Corne> and i'm back to unity
[13:47]  * genii-around sips
[13:54] <genii-around> I'm getting segfaults when it tries to process nspluginwrapper :(
[15:28] <BluesKaj> howdy , how's the new 3.0-1 kernel behaving with the nvidia graphics drivers ?
[15:29] <Ian_Corne> good
[15:29] <Ian_Corne> it works on my laptop
[15:29] <Ian_Corne> and  normal unity runs again :)
[15:29] <BluesKaj> \desktop effects ok ?
[15:30] <Ian_Corne> yes
[15:30] <BluesKaj> <<kde
[15:30] <Ian_Corne> I'm on unity tho
[15:30] <Ian_Corne> i know :)
[15:30] <Ian_Corne> don't have kde installed
[15:30] <Ian_Corne> yofel: probably know
[15:30] <Ian_Corne> +s
[15:31] <yofel> on my Quadro NVS 3100M fine
[15:31] <BluesKaj> yeah Ian_Corne , thanks for the info..it's a good sign :)
[15:31] <BluesKaj> ok yofel ...good
[15:32] <BluesKaj> 8400gs here ...not a fancy one but good for my needs
[15:37]  * BluesKaj is tempted to try again ...my other linuxbox with 7600gt  seems fine so far
[15:37] <BluesKaj> on "O"
[15:56] <BUGabundo> allow me some offtopic manober here , why can't I get NSF to properly map my user?
[16:01] <BluesKaj> NFS ?
[16:01] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, ^
[16:01] <BUGabundo> yeah
[16:12] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, did rerun , mount --bind /home/users /export/users   ?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> bbl
[16:12] <BUGabundo> /home/users ?
[16:40] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, /home/yourusername
[16:40] <BUGabundo> ahh
[16:40] <BUGabundo> but wait... won't that "move" my home to my nfs share?
[16:40] <BUGabundo> or am I reading that wrong BluesKaj ?
[16:40] <BluesKaj> yes it will
[16:41] <BluesKaj> substute whatever share path
[16:41] <BUGabundo> I just want to access my NAS shares, with RW for my user
[16:41] <BUGabundo> and I can't find a way to remap it properly
[16:41] <BluesKaj> I'm talking from the client side
[16:42] <BUGabundo> me too
[16:42] <BUGabundo> lets start over
[16:42] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, I have a good tutorial , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[16:42] <BUGabundo> /volume1/video	*(rw,async,no_wdelay,root_squash,insecure_locks,anonuid=1024,anongid=100)
[16:42] <BUGabundo> this is the exports on the nas
[16:42] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: I've read that 200 times
[16:43] <BUGabundo> :(
[16:43] <BluesKaj> hehe
[16:43] <BUGabundo> I'm just dumb I guess
[16:43] <BUGabundo> this is my fstab
[16:43] <BUGabundo> nas:/volume1/video	/mnt/NAS/video		nfs rw,users,auto	0 0
[16:43] <BUGabundo> mount
[16:43] <BluesKaj> oh nas , didn't realize , that's a little different I think
[16:43] <BUGabundo> nas:/volume1/video on /mnt/NAS/video type nfs (rw,users,addr=<IP_ADDRESS>)
[16:43] <BUGabundo> drwxr-xr-x 8      1026     65536 4.0K 2011-06-23 01:06 video/
[16:43] <BUGabundo> and the mount point
[16:44] <BUGabundo> see the numeric is diff
[16:44] <BUGabundo> so my user can't RW it
[16:44] <BUGabundo> I need to remap NFS UIDs/GUIDs
[16:46] <BluesKaj> check the fstabs ?
[16:46] <BUGabundo> (06/24/2011 04:43:24 PM) freenode: nas:/volume1/video	/mnt/NAS/video		nfs rw,users,auto	0 0
[16:51] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, so you don't autmount , you just run mnt ?
[16:51] <BUGabundo> correct
[16:52] <BUGabundo> its on boot
[16:53] <BUGabundo> maybe I need to take a better look at portmapper
[16:55] <BluesKaj> much more exacting than my setup..I just automount my /home/user file on the other linuxbox , so I can access files and media in the den if we have conflict over media
[16:56] <BUGabundo> I guess ill give up
[16:56] <BUGabundo> and go CIFS :(
[16:58] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, for example :<IP_ADDRESS>:/   /mnt   nfs4    auto  0  0
[16:58] <BluesKaj> that's the client fstab
[16:58] <BUGabundo> sure
[16:58] <BUGabundo> that's what I have
[16:59] <BUGabundo> now ls -ln your /mnt
[16:59] <BUGabundo> what are the UIDs?
[16:59] <BluesKaj>  /home/kaj    /export/users   none    bind  0  0 ..server
[16:59] <BUGabundo> do they match the ones on the server?
[17:00] <BluesKaj> not really the server just mounts the share
[17:00] <BUGabundo> RW?
[17:01] <BluesKaj> yeah
[17:01] <BUGabundo> whats your exports ?
[17:06] <BluesKaj> export/users/home/kaj is the actuall server n mount path on my setup
[17:07] <BluesKaj> err server mount path
[17:08] <BluesKaj> I ssh'd into the denlinuxbox to set the client up there...lazy :)
[17:10] <BUGabundo> I want the server there, not client :S
[17:11] <BluesKaj> export/users/home/kaj is the server mount path
[17:21] <BUGabundo> ah
[17:29] <dsathe> http://dsathe.blogspot.com/2011/06/auto-background-changer-for-gnome-3-gui.html
[19:45] <BluesKaj> kde-window-manager, plasma-widgets-workspace, libtaskmanager4abi1, plasma-dataengines-workspace, plasma-desktop, kdm, libplasmagenericshell4 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing:
[19:45] <BluesKaj> not good :(
[19:48] <BluesKaj> and the kernel didn't upgrade 2.6.38-8-generic
[19:56] <BluesKaj> is the above a known issue ?
[19:57] <BUGabundo> sorry, no backlog
[19:57] <BUGabundo> crashed
[19:57] <BUGabundo> what is it BluesKaj?
[19:57] <BluesKaj> kde-window-manager, plasma-widgets-workspace, libtaskmanager4abi1, plasma-dataengines-workspace, plasma-desktop, kdm, libplasmagenericshell4 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing:
[19:57] <BUGabundo> kde stuff
[19:57] <BUGabundo> :)
[19:58] <BluesKaj> yeah, so ?
[19:58] <BluesKaj> yofel, ?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> the kernel should have upgraded , or is there a regression ?
[19:59] <yofel> what dependency errors? I don't have any.
[19:59] <yofel> ah wait, were you using 4.6.4 in natty?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> no.4.6..2
[19:59] <BluesKaj> for some reason
[20:00] <yofel> hm, shouldn't break then...
[20:00] <yofel> got the full error?
[20:00] <BluesKaj> I had to reinstall natty the other day
[20:00] <BluesKaj> hang on
[20:02] <BluesKaj> yofel, http://pastebin.com/FJqp1qfg
[20:03] <yofel> what does -f try to do?
[20:06] <BluesKaj> it just , gives the broken packages error http://pastebin.com/M0vmuMmT
[20:06] <yofel> well, problem found
[20:06] <yofel>  trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libpowerdevilcore.so.0.1.0', which is also in package libpowerdevilcore0 4:4.6.2a-0ubuntu5.1
[20:07] <yofel> sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends libpowerdevilcore0
[20:07] <yofel> after that try install -f again
[20:07]  * yofel goes fixing
[20:09] <BluesKaj> ok thanks yofel , looks promising so far
[20:10] <yofel> ah, already fixed in bzr, just not uploaded
[20:10] <yofel> lp 791560
[20:42] <BUGabundo> so we dropped Synaptic
[20:42] <BUGabundo> sadface
[20:44] <BluesKaj> ok the dependencies are solved now , but it seems the desktop effects are still enabled but not in effect..suppose I should have expected that
[20:46] <yofel> they do work for me
[20:47] <BluesKaj> yofel, which kde are you on?
[20:47] <yofel> 4.6.3
[20:47] <BluesKaj> same
[20:47] <yofel> that's all we have in oneiric
[20:48] <yofel> try to enable the effects and then check .xsession-errors if kwin has any complaints
[20:48] <BluesKaj> ok, thought it might be up to 4.6.4
[20:49] <BluesKaj> they show enabled , but I get a dialog saying that kwin turned off several effects like cube animation when I re-enabled
[20:57] <BluesKaj> abd of course additional drivers still has the message that nvidia-current is the recommended driver but not currently in use , but "apt-cache policy nvidia-current" says it is installed
[20:58] <yofel> does xorg.log say it's being used?
[21:04] <BluesKaj> QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a different thread (Parent is Solid::Backends::UDisks::UDisksDevice(0x24ae7d0), parent's thread is QThread(0x20709d0), current thread is ThreadWeaver::Thread(0x254bc50)
[21:04] <BluesKaj> xsession
[21:07] <yofel> hm, no, that's solid
[21:07] <yofel> open kdebugdialog and check if kwin debugging output is on
[21:13] <BluesKaj> yofel, where to look ?
[21:13] <yofel> the debugging output should go to .xsession-errors
[21:14] <yofel> a lot is off by default
[21:14] <BluesKaj> ok
[21:17] <BluesKaj> kwin(1621): OpenGL Software Rasterizer detected. Falling back to XRender
[21:17] <BluesKaj> is one
[21:18] <yofel> direct rendering doesn't work
[21:18] <BluesKaj> kwin(1621): Failed to initialize compositing, compositing disabled
[21:18] <yofel> and Xorg.0.log really doesn't have an error?
[21:19] <BluesKaj> was just looking there, hang on
[21:25] <BluesKaj> a hint as to what I'm looking for ..I don't see the driver loading ..
[21:30] <BluesKaj> nvidia xserver settings says the current driver is 275.09.07
[21:50] <BluesKaj> ok yofel , success ..reinstalled nvidia-current at the tty as suggeste in Xorg.0.log ..all seems well now , thanks again :)
[21:50] <yofel> :)
[22:03] <coz_> hey all
[22:21] <Ian_Corne> Hello
[22:22] <BUGabundo> Ian_Corne: hi http://twitter.com/BUGabundo/status/84370480420749312
[22:23] <Ian_Corne> hi
[22:23] <Ian_Corne> random twitter post? :p
[22:23] <BUGabundo> :)
[22:24] <BluesKaj> twitter...bah humbug!
[22:24] <Ian_Corne> BUGabundo: monday i should be getting my SGSII
[22:24] <Ian_Corne> :D
[22:24] <BUGabundo> YA
[22:24] <BUGabundo> YAY
[22:25] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: my client doesn't make StatusNet links :(
[22:27] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, was just funnin' ... StatusNet links ...have a fuzzy idea what that might be but......
[22:27] <BUGabundo> ehe
[22:27] <BUGabundo> identi.ca ?
[22:29] <BluesKaj> visited there once ... a buddy suggested identi but facebook is enuff for me :)
[22:30] <BUGabundo> add me then
[22:30] <BluesKaj> it's mostly family
[22:31] <BUGabundo> and what are WE ??
[22:31] <BluesKaj> acquaintences :)
[22:31] <BUGabundo> bah
[22:32] <BluesKaj> show me yours , I'll show you mine ...maybe
[22:32] <BluesKaj> ok, news is on BBL
[22:32] <Ian_Corne> haha
[22:32] <BUGabundo> fb.com/BUGabundo ?


[00:22] <LiamW> getting "timeout error" when attempting to edit a bug's status
[00:58] <wgrant_> LiamW: Which particular emails do you believe are missing?
[00:58] <LiamW> seems to affect su_v too
[00:58] <LiamW> wgrant:
 LiamW: do you still get mail notifications about new questions asked and answers given, as 'answer contact'?
[00:59] <LiamW> seems to have stopped for me about three days ago (can't see any obvious setting I might have changed myself inadvertently)
[00:59] <wgrant> I need specific examples of exactly which events you didn't get emailed about.
[01:01] <LiamW> wgrant: this one in particular
[01:01] <LiamW> https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1347180
[01:01] <LiamW> I'm subscribed to it but didn't receive any notifications about comments
[01:01] <wgrant> What was the last email you received about that bug?
[01:02] <LiamW> I only received the email that was the initial report
[01:02] <LiamW> no other email relating to that bug reached me and I had to keep checking it myself
[01:02] <wgrant> "bug_notification_level": "Lifecycle"
[01:02] <wgrant> You've asked to only receive notifications when bugs are open or closed.
[01:03] <wgrant> Find your subscription on https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1347180/+subscriptions, open its settings, and ensure that you've elected to receive emails about comments.
[01:04] <LiamW> wgrant: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/96223438/irc/channel/Screenshot%20from%202014-07-26%2021%3A03%3A12.png
[01:05] <LiamW> I marked that soon after the report was opened and yet did not receive any other emails about comments
[01:08] <wgrant> Ah, I see.
[01:08] <wgrant> Checking our email logs, we certainly sent that comment to your gmail address.
[01:09] <wgrant> Have you checked your spam folder?
[01:09] <LiamW> it's not in there
[01:13] <wgrant> Question notifications are indeed broken, but for a reason that cannot affect bug notifications.
[01:14] <LiamW> the problem su_v and I are both having is about questions; I have not received any notifications about the last three questions asked here https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape/+questions
[01:14] <wgrant> I can't check our MTA logs at the moment, but I *can* see that an email to you about that question made it to one of our internal smarthosts, and I've been getting emails fine.
[01:15] <wgrant> But you mentioned a bug that you didn't get emails about.
[01:15] <wgrant> Which cannot be related (the script that sends question notifications, and only question notifications, is crashing).
[01:15] <wgrant> So that suggests you have other mail issues.
[01:15] <wgrant> er
[01:16] <wgrant> s/an email to you about that question/an email to you about that bug/
[01:26] <wgrant> The question notification bug is a bit of a nasty one. I can't really fix it until at least Monday.
[07:45] <GunChleoc_II> Anybody around who can help with the translation import queue? The auto-approver doesn't like my templates anymore.
[07:45] <GunChleoc_II> https://translations.launchpad.net/widelands/+imports
[12:35] <peba> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/armhf   #this page always times out - how could repair this ?
[19:51] <frozencemetery> I'm writing a CLI application that interfaces with launchpad.  I issued a POST for an oauth token, and launchpad rejected it, telling me that I need to put a referer header on my request.  Since I'm a CLI application and not a browser, what should go there?
[23:46] <wgrant> frozencemetery: Any Referer under https://launchpad.net/ is fine. But which URL are you POSTing to? The interesting ones are whitelisted in the Referer checking.


[13:33] <royx117> salam pavl bhai
[13:33] <royx117> after long time
[13:35] <royx117> ??
[13:41] <pavlushka> royx117: hello
[13:41] <pavlushka> royx117: kmn asen?
[13:43] <royx117> good now i am using linux mint
[13:44] <royx117> lot of thing i have to ask u
[13:44] <royx117> thats why i am searching u
[13:44] <royx117> Thank Allah that u r here :D
[13:51] <royx117> :(
[13:53] <pavlushka> royx117: So, what are you waiting for?
[13:53] <royx117> for u :D
[13:53] <pavlushka> i m listening :)
[13:53] <royx117> now i am going out
[13:54] <royx117> i will be back
[13:54] <pavlushka> royx117: okay
[13:54] <royx117> can u give ur time when u r here
[13:54] <royx117> ??
[14:00] <pavlushka> royx117: sure
[14:15] <maruf> thanks
[14:16] <pavlushka> maruf: So are you able to write in BEngali?
[14:18] <maruf> no
[14:19] <pavlushka> maruf: ok, on this anydesk session, lets see if it works


[12:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65573 in xorg (main) "Screen Refresh issues with SiS 760" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65573
[12:32] <paul0> hi
[12:33] <paul0> anyone alive
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63615 in kdebase "(kdm) wrong keyboard behavior at first login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63615
[12:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65583 in xserver-xorg-driver-i810 "Can't have 3D acceleration over Intel 945GM" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65583
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65605 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "direct rendering doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65605
[10:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65620 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "Using GL apps with my r200 causes X to die" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65620
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65649 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "Mouse hangs for a few seconds after update to edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65649
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65762 in mesa "please upgrade to final 6.5.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65762
[11:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65763 in xorg "X configuration fails with NFS root (simple fix)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65763


[00:36] <arand> The x192 image for branding speaks of a "project home page" but I don't see it anywhere, what is this page? Is it only available if the homepage field is left empty?
[00:38] <wgrant> arand: That description is nearly 3 years out of date, it seems.
[00:39] <arand> :D
[00:39] <wgrant> The 192x192 image hasn't been used since 3.0, in mid-2009.
[00:40] <arand> Ok, I'm glad to confirm I'm not blind :)
[06:24] <trijntje> I'm trying to get the fingerprint of my ppa using wget: (wget -q -O- https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~redmar/+archive/testi/signing_key_fingerprint), but it returns nothing. Is the command wrong or is there a mistake in the way I set up the ppa? (https://launchpad.net/~redmar/+archive/ppa)
[06:26] <maxb> Your PPA is named 'ppa' not 'testi'
[06:27] <trijntje> maxb: thanks! I'm completely new to all this
[07:50] <RobinJ> Is there anyone who can guide me in setting up Launchpad, Bazaar, ... for my application?
[07:51] <RobinJ> Setting up a PPA and stuff...
[07:56] <benonsoftware> Hi, for some reason I am not able to log into staging
[08:09] <lifeless> RobinJ: lots of folk will help, but you'll need to ask something a little more pointed
[08:09] <lifeless> benonsoftware: details needed...
[08:09] <benonsoftware> lifeless: I get directed to the login page but it says wrong password
[08:10] <lifeless> then it probably is ;)
[08:10] <benonsoftware> Funny thing is the password reset says there is no account with that email
[08:10] <RobinJ> lifeless, more pointed? well i just need to set up Launchpad. Need to use a PPA, Bazaar, if I can manage it the translation system as well
[08:11] <RobinJ> little question: can you implement the bug tracker in your application? so that if something goes wrong a bug report can be sent from within the app?
[08:11] <lifeless> absolutely, LP has a comprehensive API
[08:11] <RobinJ> nice
[08:11] <RobinJ> a C# API? :p
[08:12] <lifeless> someone was building one, I don't know where the status is up to
[08:12] <RobinJ> ah
[08:12] <RobinJ> well, those are worries for later
[08:12] <lifeless> but the underlying API is REST+json
[08:12] <RobinJ> the most important thing now is getting bazaar up and running
[08:12] <lifeless> have you used bzr before, or if not, have you read the docs for it?
[08:12] <benonsoftware> lifeless: I tried again with a password reset, I get email saying this email isn't registered with LP
[08:12] <lifeless> benonsoftware: what url are you on at this point ?
[08:12] <RobinJ> lifeless, i have. but just to pull, push and commit
[08:13] <benonsoftware> https://login.staging.launchpad.net/+forgot_password
[08:13] <lifeless> RobinJ: then you're setup, you just need to push to LP; have you got a project to push to ?
[08:13] <RobinJ> now i want to find out how a PPA works
[08:13] <RobinJ> lifeless, yes
[08:13] <benonsoftware> (it has been happening for the past few weeks)
[08:13] <RobinJ> https://launchpad.net/unity-2d-config-util
[08:14] <RobinJ> also, what would be the best license to choose on the launchpad page?
[08:14] <RobinJ> i don't know anything about them :p
[08:14] <RobinJ> i currently just chose for GPL as most apps seem to use it
[08:16] <lifeless> benonsoftware: have you changed email addresses or something? this is SSO, not actually part of LP itself.
[08:16] <benonsoftware> Err, no
[08:16] <lifeless> RobinJ: licence choice isn't something I can advise on :)
[08:16] <RobinJ> ok
[08:17] <lifeless> RobinJ: so, bzr push lp:~<youlpusername>/unity-2d-config-util/trunk
[08:17] <RobinJ> how do i tell bzr which branch to push to, and which files to push? i'm looking at a quickstarter guide but it doesn't tell me anything about that :/
[08:17] <lifeless> RobinJ: and then on the https://launchpad.net/unity-2d-config-util pages you can link that as the trunk series branhc
[08:18] <RobinJ> lifeless, but how will it know which files to push?
[08:18] <lifeless> whatever you have committed
[08:18] <RobinJ> er
[08:18] <RobinJ> ..
[08:18] <RobinJ> i havent committed anything yet
[08:19] <lifeless> then it won't have anything to push :)
[08:19] <RobinJ> all i've done so far is `bzr launchpad-login robinj`
[08:19] <RobinJ> and adding an SSH key
[08:19] <lifeless> bzr doesn't push files, it pushes commits
[08:20] <RobinJ> what do i do from here?
[08:20] <RobinJ> i'd think `bzr add *`, but then how does it know which files belong to which project?
[08:21] <RobinJ> lifeless
[08:27] <lifeless> just bzr add
[08:27] <lifeless> bzr has one tree per project
[08:27] <lifeless> you might want to follow the bzr getting-started guide
[08:27] <lifeless> ignore launchpad for a little bit, just get a handle on using bzr itself
[08:29] <RobinJ> lifeless
[08:29] <RobinJ> $ bzr add
[08:29] <RobinJ> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/home/robin/Ubuntu One/C#/Unity 2D Configuration Utility/Unity2DConfigurationUtility/".
[08:30] <RobinJ> aha
[08:30] <RobinJ> bzr init
[08:31] <RobinJ> yay \o/
[08:31] <RobinJ> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~robinj/unity-2d-config-util/trunk/files
[09:48] <lifeless> RobinJ: cool
[09:49] <RobinJ> heh, how come python can do it and c# cant :/
[10:05] <astraljava> MAGIC TECHNOLOGIES!
[10:08] <RobinJ> prob ably :/
[10:08] <RobinJ> is there anyone here who knows python? i'm trying to translate a python script into C# but it's not going so well
[10:08] <RobinJ> there's a small piece that always seems to go wrong
[10:17] <astraljava> I have to go to the supermarket now, but if you haven't received any assistance, I can give it a shot when I get back. Are you busy later today?
[10:20] <RobinJ> dunno :p


[05:02] <myne> ITMSLVS:)
[05:03] <myne> good thing ya'll are here, i may have seriously fubar'd my install up..lol
[05:03] <myne> we shall find out in a few i guess..lol
[05:05] <myne> ahh, but such a beast of a machine. 1 xeon 3.0 (2nd on the way soon) 8 gigs ram and a quatro fx 4600 gpu;)
[05:05] <myne> xeon dual core.
[05:06] <myne> bleh, restart time, see ya when i see ya.
[12:47] <jozefk> how do I copy the ISO to flash drive in Windows and make it persistent? and bootable of course
[14:00] <Jmainguy> like persistant storage to write to after booting into it?
[14:01] <Jmainguy> http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/help/guide check out step 3
[14:44] <nickhilr1> how can i rearrange the tracks in the timeline?
[14:44] <nickhilr1> the move track up and down options under configure isnt enabled
[14:46] <nickhilr1> i am using kdenlive 0.9.8
[14:46] <nickhilr1> under ubuntu 14.04
[14:56] <cfhowlett> nickhilr1 see kdenlive.org for support/help
[14:57] <nickhilr1> alright
[15:36] <holstein> Jmainguy: i set up a persistent live USB one time.. then, i decided that i preferred just having a normal installation installed to the USB stick
[15:37] <holstein> !mini
[15:37] <holstein> i'll use the mini iso to install without automaticallly installing grub to my main hard drive.. or, i'll install at a machine that has no hard drives
[16:35] <Jmainguy> holstein: nice, that makes sense


[12:09] <profoX`> okay.. I see that you wanted to have a reservation before may 1st?
[12:09] <juliux> 2 may in the morning is also ok
[12:10] <juliux> we have an expo at the end of may and the producer needs 3 weeks :(
[12:10] <juliux> but for the blue ones i didn't need a reservation
[12:11] <profoX`> Okay, I see. I'll try to get my orders in as soon as possible (morning of 2 may) for the black ones, and otherwise they'll just have to be happy with blue ones....
[12:12] <juliux> great
[12:18] <profoX`> juliux: "If somebody collect all the orders from one locoteam they will get a better price" you mean shipping, or will you give a cheaper price on the actual shirts? :)
[12:19] <juliux> profoX`, shipping is better, and perhaps we get a better price form the producer if we order more shirts
[12:19] <jenda> beuno: pong
[12:19] <juliux> hey jenda
[12:20] <jenda> yo
[12:20] <profoX`> juliux: alright..
[12:20] <juliux> jenda, we have a final result for the shirt race from the fin team and the nl team;9
[12:22] <profoX`> juliux: so blue shirts and polo's up to XXL can be ordered after 1 may? is there a "deadline" for ordering those too?
[12:22] <jenda> juliux: it's 9 here
[12:23] <jenda> juliux: would the specific types and sizes suffice tomorrow morning?
[12:23] <juliux> profoX`, yes that is right
[12:23] <juliux> jenda, it's ok
[12:23] <jenda> thanks
[12:28] <beuno> Burgundavia: nope, but I'd like to finish it off and get it released
[12:28] <beuno> can you add what you've got left?
[12:28] <Burgundavia> beuno: will do
[12:38] <MitchM_> sco
[12:46] <profoX`> Does someone know how long it takes for a bank transfer to happen if you do it on line? is it a matter of minutes, hours, days?
[01:46] <Vorian> ETA on UWN #38?
[01:47] <Burgundavia> soon
[01:47] <Burgundavia> mostly waiting on me
[01:47] <Vorian> :)
[01:47] <Vorian> ping me when its ready, so I can post it on the forum if you don't mind :)
[02:16] <Burgundavia> beuno: good to go
[02:16] <beuno> Burgundavia: great, I'm on it
[02:17] <Burgundavia> beuno: will need a proofread
[02:17] <beuno> by you or my me?
[02:17] <beuno> *by
[02:17] <Burgundavia> you
[02:18] <beuno> sure, I'll read through
[02:18] <beuno> you'll pass it through the filter?
[02:18] <Burgundavia> yep
[02:18] <Burgundavia> oh, wait, I forgot some stuff
[02:19] <Burgundavia> hmm, where should I put a note about VMware server being available in feisty?
[02:20] <beuno> New in Feisty?
[02:20] <Burgundavia> ya
[02:21] <boredandblogging> its in the repos?
[02:21] <Burgundavia> canonical commericial
[02:21] <boredandblogging> awesome
[02:25] <Burgundavia> beuno: ok, now done
[02:26] <beuno> ok, I'm on it
[02:36] <boredandblogging> anything else need to be done?
[03:23] <beuno> Vorian: UWN is out
[03:25] <Vorian> me highfives Burgundavia
[03:25] <Vorian> oops
[03:25] <Vorian> beuno,
[03:25] <Vorian> :)
[03:25] <beuno> he and boredandblogging did 99% of the work
[03:25] <Vorian> kewl
[03:26] <Vorian> nice work
[03:31] <beuno> Burgundavia: it's out
[03:33] <Vorian> beuno, credits!
[03:33] <Vorian> who, oh, who shall be listed in the credits?
[03:33] <beuno> where?
[03:34] <beuno> aren't they in the bottom?
[03:34] <Vorian> nothing
[03:34] <Vorian> nothing is at the bottom other than the marketing info
[03:35] <beuno> Credits
[03:35] <beuno> The Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is brought to you by:
[03:35] <beuno>     *
[03:35] <beuno>       Corey Burger
[03:35] <beuno>     *
[03:35] <beuno>       Nick Ali
[03:35] <beuno>     *
[03:35] <beuno>       Martin Albisetti
[03:35] <beuno>     *
[03:35] <beuno>       And many others
[03:45] <Vorian> beuno, its posted
[03:45] <Vorian> and now I see you moderate that page!
[04:46] <boredandblogging> beuno: is it me or are the headers on the UWN in the forums really large?
[06:18] <Burgundavia> fridge and mailing list done
[11:41] <Daviey> Hi.  Our loco is considering advertising ubuntu in the national press.  Is there anything we need to consider?
[11:44] <MenZa> JENDA
[11:44] <jenda> yess?
[11:45] <jenda> Daviey: neat... where's that?
[11:45] <MenZa> ^_^
[11:46] <jenda> Daviey: unfortunately, the marketing team doesn't really have any canned advice.
[11:47] <Daviey> :(
[11:47] <Daviey> ubuntu-uk
[11:47] <MenZa> :O
[11:47] <jenda> Daviey: As for my own - advertise non-aggressively, advertise Ubuntu, not Linux or heavens forbid Ubuntu Linux :) Try to explain how the relationship between Ubuntu and Linux works...
[11:48] <jenda> ...don't be too techy to scare them away, talk about things the public understands, not stuff it doesn't care about or understand.
[11:48] <Daviey> good points... thank you
[11:49] <jenda> Daviey: and it would also be appreciated if you made your work available to the rest of the community :)
[11:49] <jenda> Daviey: you can do that through the marketing team.
[11:51] <Daviey> great stuff... still need an artist though.  I think i have 8 fingers
[11:51] <MenZa> Try #ubuntu-art
[11:52] <Daviey> ty
[11:55] <MenZa> :)
[01:23] <Mike_F> jenda: Did you remember to send my posters?
[01:23] <jenda> Mike_F: they didn't arrive?
[01:23] <jenda> Lemme check my notes
[01:24] <Mike_F> I am not sure, when did you send them ?
[01:24] <jenda> oiks!
[01:24] <jenda> I didn't!
[01:25] <jenda> Mike_F: is there a big problem, were you in a hurry for them?
[01:25] <jenda> I'm sorry :(
[01:25] <jenda> I'll pack them up straight away.
[01:25] <Mike_F> no i have been out of my office and I didn't want them to be left at my door
[01:25] <Mike_F> where someone could take them
[01:26] <Mike_F> I would like them for the first of june
[01:26] <Mike_F> since I plan to bring them to a trade show
[01:28] <jenda> Mike_F: you'll have them next week, they're already packed... just... one more piece of tape ;)
[01:29] <Mike_F> cool
[01:31] <jenda> and I added a few, too ;)
[01:31] <jenda> Mike_F: so, office or home?
[01:36] <nothlit> Daviey: theres some posters already--have you taken a look @ them?
[01:40] <Daviey> nope
[01:40] <Daviey> do you mean jenda's big one?
[01:42] <jenda> yep, I've got posters - A2 or A3
[01:44] <Mike_F> jenda: office is better, the same dude has been mail man there for like 20 years
[01:44] <jenda> Mike_F: k, I wrote the addy
[01:44] <jenda> Mike_F: it's hand writ, as my printer is bork'd, hope you don't mind :)
[01:45] <Mike_F> 1980 North Atlantic #121 is my office
[01:45] <jenda> gotcha
[01:45] <jenda> I had it in the email.
[01:46] <Mike_F> What city are you sending them from?
[01:47] <Mike_F> excuse my spelling: Prauge ?
[01:50] <jenda> Mike_F: excused, and yes :)
[01:50] <jenda> Mike_F: should I pack in a beer, too? ;)
[01:51] <Mike_F> do you mean a real "Budweiser"
[01:51] <jenda> could be,... or a real Pilsner...
[01:51] <jenda> :)
[01:52] <Mike_F> Surprise me, I don;t think customs will care about beer
[01:53] <Mike_F> but it might make the package heavy and break in the mail
[01:53] <Mike_F> which would make the posters wet
[01:53] <jenda> eek :)
[01:54] <Mike_F> We have lousy beer in florida, even for the USA
[01:54] <jenda> If, however, I rolled the posters around the bottle, it could help protect them :)
[01:54] <jenda> hehe
[01:54] <Mike_F> sounds good to me
[01:54] <jenda> (although I later found out they import the Lion from India... beats me why they drink the Kingfisher there ;))
[01:55] <Mike_F> no kidding, i am not sure i even know where that is
[01:55] <Mike_F> off of india maybe:
[01:55] <jenda> hehe :)
[01:55] <jenda> indeed.
[01:55] <jenda> The home of Buddhism and Ceylon tea.
[01:55] <Mike_F> All the beer in florida is the american "budwesier"
[01:56] <jenda> yeauch
[01:56] <Mike_F> even if it has a different label, i think they replace it with bud at the state line
[02:16] <jenda> haha :)
[02:16] <jenda> nice
[06:00] <juliux> jenda, ping
[06:01] <jenda> juliux: pong
[06:02] <jenda> 'sup
[06:02] <jenda> got me order? :)
[06:02] <juliux> yes
[06:02] <juliux> but i have a question
[06:02] <juliux> what do you mean with made of thin fabric?
[06:03] <jenda> Well, the guy wants it longsleeve if it's thick (like the polos) to wear in the winter... or shortsleeve if it's a summery type of shirt :)
[06:05] <juliux> ok
[06:05] <juliux> i have no idea who thick the shirts are
[06:06] <juliux> normaly buttonup shirts are not so thick
[06:06] <jenda> hmm
[06:06] <jenda> ok
[06:06] <juliux> because you where them with a suit
[06:07] <jenda> Hmm. Make it longsleeve, then.
[06:07] <juliux> ok
[06:07] <jenda> or short... damn, gimme a sec, I'll try asking him ;)
[06:08] <juliux> ok
[06:12] <juliux> hm somebody from ohio here?
[06:12] <jenda> Vorian
[06:12] <jenda> meatballhat...
[06:12] <Vorian> jenda,
[06:12] <juliux> hi Vorian
[06:12] <Vorian> juliux, hi
[06:12] <juliux> Vorian, i answerd you mail;)
[06:13] <Vorian> w00t!
[06:13] <Vorian> euro is $x2 right?
[06:13] <jenda> juliux: got him, he's deciding.
[06:13] <jenda> Vorian: no
[06:13] <Vorian> 1.5?
[06:14] <jenda> Vorian: 11 = $14
[06:14] <jenda> approx
[06:14] <Vorian> ah, thats not too bad then
[06:14] <jenda> $1.36576 per , says xe.com
[06:15] <juliux> Vorian, 82.90 Euro = 113.221 US Dollar
[06:15] <Vorian> paypay?
[06:16] <juliux> yes you can use paypal
[06:16] <jenda> Vorian: add 2.5% on the ratio for paypal's ever hungry coffers :)
[06:17] <Vorian> ok juliux, I'll take them :)
[06:17] <Vorian> isn't that sad :(
[06:17] <juliux> Vorian, cool
[06:17] <juliux> Vorian, thxs
[06:17] <Vorian> thank you juliux
[06:18] <Vorian> I saw meatballhat's shirt in person, and loved it.
[06:18] <juliux> hehe
[06:19] <juliux> but meatballhat has a blue one
[06:26] <jenda> juliux: short. Finally. :)
[06:26] <juliux> jenda, ok
[06:26] <jenda>
[06:26] <meatballhat> jenda: /me is back from lunch ;-)
[06:26] <juliux> hi meatballhat
[06:26] <jenda> Vorian: haha :) (PM)
[06:26] <meatballhat> howdy juliux  :)
[06:26] <jenda> yo, meatballhat
[06:27] <meatballhat> :D  what's the happs?
[06:27] <jenda> Vorian: I got one like that too, when you unstickied the old one.
[06:27] <Vorian> jenda, I shouldn't play around so much eh?
[06:27] <jenda> Vorian: but tell me... did you convert it to the forums format _manually_?
[06:27] <Vorian> yep
[06:27] <jenda> O_O
[06:28] <jenda> Vorian: and you call yourself a geek?
[06:28] <jenda> Vorian: I have a script for that ;)
[06:28] <jenda> Vorian: I bought it for a few stickers :)
[06:28] <jenda> Vorian: http://koltsoff.com/pub/reformat.py
[06:28] <jenda> It does everything but the title, which you have to add manually.
[06:28] <Vorian> jenda, really?
[06:28] <jenda> yep
[06:29] <jenda> czr made it for me ;)
[06:29] <Vorian> moinmoin to php?
[06:29] <jenda> no, moinmoin to BBcode or what that stuff is.
[06:29] <jenda> and only the specific elements the UWN has.
[06:42] <Vorian> jenda, care to share it?
[07:58] <juliux> jenda, ping
[07:58] <jenda> juliux: pong
[07:58] <juliux> jenda, which size are the new poster you have?
[07:58] <jenda> A2
[07:59] <juliux> that is in m ?
[07:59] <jenda> Want me to bring some? You'd be the only one who wouldn't have to pay shipping :)
[07:59] <jenda> erm...
[07:59] <jenda> that has an area of 1/4 m
[07:59] <jenda> :)
[07:59] <juliux> hmm
[08:00] <juliux> i need some posters for a 2,5high and 1m wide wall on linuxtag
[08:00] <MenZa> :o
[08:00] <jenda> yeauch
[08:00] <jenda> juliux: I can't do that, unless you want to tile them :D
[08:00] <MenZa> xD
[08:00] <juliux> jenda, hehe
[08:01] <jenda> well, maybe I could do it, but it would be very expensive :/
[08:01] <jenda> (because it's a small number, for sure)
[08:02] <juliux> jenda, i will check it in germany;)
[08:02] <jenda> do dat
[08:02] <jenda> :)
[08:03] <MenZa> http://www.explosm.net/comics/875/ <- jenda
[08:29] <jenda> hmm
[08:33] <jenda> juliux: ping
[08:33] <jenda> juliux: PM
[08:34] <juliux> jenda, pong
[08:52] <beuno> is anyone going to UDS here?
[08:52] <beuno> I need a representitive
[08:52] <beuno> Burgwork?
[10:15] <beuno> jenda, do you know if anyone from the marketing team is going to UDS?
[10:32] <jenda> beuno: hmm
[10:32] <jenda> beuno: elkbuntu is
[10:33] <beuno> elkbuntu, can you sponsor a spec for me?
[10:55] <poningru> beuno: how did you add a spec?
[10:56] <beuno> poningru: I've been going over it with joey stanford
[10:56] <beuno> rosetta stats


[00:57] <ron_o> egads, this guy rips Xubuntu's heart out in his review. However, it's not *supposed* to be Ubuntu or Kubuntu. It's as small a distro as you can get (this is small footprint) with as many funcionalities as possible..
[00:57] <ron_o> geeze..
[00:57] <ron_o> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/xubuntu-9-10.html
[00:58] <ron_o> if we wanted Ubuntu or Kubuntu, wouldn't we go with those two? People are such arses.
[00:58] <knome> !language
[00:58] <ron_o> 'arse' is bad?
[00:59] <knome> well, the overall attitude wasn't the best possible.
[00:59] <ron_o> yah, well. I don't see anything under !attitude  --- dude. :)
[00:59] <ron_o> hehe.
[01:00] <ron_o> the guy doesn't allow you to respoind to him on his site, unfortunately.
[01:00] <knome> http://www.dedoimedo.com/contact_me.html
[01:08] <ron_o> I'm goint to digg it instead..
[01:09] <ron_o> on occasion I write people and most never respond. Did they even read it? You never know.
[01:15] <PredaGR> hello people, I had major problem with audio on Ubuntu and gone to my all nice working Xubuntu, though only difference is that I use 64bit than 32bit one I was using, and while one programs plays audio, the rest go silent, any ideas?
[02:00] <ron_o> I dugg, I commented, and I'm done:
[02:00] <ron_o> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Xubuntu_9_10_Review_Unremarkable
[02:35] <Amako> hi, i just finished installing xubuntu on my Ibook G3 and i'm having a problem with my video.  It seems like the display is divided in to two and both are showing the same.  Can someone help me
[03:00] <Amako> ok here is an update my screen is black and will not show the GUI
[03:46] <ron_o> Amako, hmmm... I don't know much about Apple.
[03:47] <ron_o> are you dual booting?
[03:48] <ron_o> you'll have to find your video card and see if it's supported. For me, I have NVIDIA, which Xubuntu handled well through restricted hardware app.
[04:08] <pdg1> howdy doody... I'm looking for some information on commands. I'm trying to setup some keyboard shortcuts
[04:23] <likemindead> Settings>Keyboard pdg1.
[04:26] <pdg1> cool. and commands?
[04:26] <likemindead> What are you wanting?
[04:27] <pdg1> i want it to bring up the logout menu
[04:28] <pdg1> there must be a list of commands somewhere. but I'm have a hard time finding it
[04:28] <likemindead> http://linux.die.net/man/1/xfce4-session-logout
[04:29] <pdg1> sweet deal :D
[04:29] <likemindead> Or try xfce4-session.
[04:34] <pdg1> wooo
[04:34] <pdg1> it worked :P
[04:34] <pdg1> session-logout
[04:42] <pdg1> likemindead, this linux.die.net site you gave me is pretty awesome.
[04:42] <pdg1> thanks
[04:42] <likemindead> I was just the first thing that popped up with I entered "Xfce logout" at Google. ;-)
[04:43] <pdg1> whatever... :P
[04:44] <pdg1> lol... I guess I should have tried that instead of just xfce keyoard shortcuts
[04:45] <pdg1> I'm assuming you use xubuntu?
[04:45] <likemindead> Yep.
[04:46] <likemindead> I've created a few keyboard shortcuts on here. I use Super+T to open a terminal. Probably my most used.
[04:47] <pdg1> what is super?
[04:47] <pdg1> CTRL shift?
[04:48] <likemindead> "Super" is the "Windows" key...
[04:48] <likemindead> In Linux talk, apparently.
[04:49] <pdg1> aha! I was wondering why no apps ever used it for other keybindings
[04:49] <likemindead> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_key_(keyboard_button)
[04:51] <Amako> i found a fix for my screen problem but the instructions say to type: sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  But when i do that it says sodu: kate: command not found.
[04:52] <pdg1> kate is for KDE
[04:53] <pdg1> it's asking you to edit the file xorg.conf so you can replace the command kate for something like nano
[04:53] <Amako> oh ok, sorry i'm still trying to learn about all the commands.  i'm running xubuntu 9.10 karmic koala.
[04:54] <pdg1> ie.....   sudo nano /etc/X/xorg.conf
[04:54] <pdg1> me 3 :D
[04:54] <pdg1> still new to linux?
[04:55] <Amako> oh yea, i been reading tons and i thought i will learn by trying to get my ibook g3 going with xubuntu
[04:55] <pdg1> good choice
[04:56] <pdg1> i had a bit of a twitch there... I try my best to be as tolerant towards apple users as i can
[04:56] <pdg1> lol
[04:57] <Amako> they say suse installs with no problems but i wanted to try to document how i got my ibook running xubuntu so people can have something to fall back on
[04:57] <knome> pdg1, Amako; mousepad is the default gui text editor for xubuntu
[04:57] <Amako> plus i have a desktop running ubuntu and i love it
[04:58] <pdg1> groovy
[05:14] <Amako> is there a good book or a guide to learn how to use linux better
[05:21] <pdg1> amako, not really
[05:22] <pdg1> most of it comes from use, i think
[05:23] <Amako> oh ok well i'm letting you guys know now... i'm sorry i like to ask 20 million questions so i don't have to keep coming back LOL
[05:23] <pdg1> well, that's probably not true. There's lots of stuff on thems internets
[05:23] <pdg1> That's what the support channels and forums and man pages and other things are for
[05:24] <Amako> i did notice one thing, i tried using the search option on the forums and it does not work very good.
[05:25] <pdg1> one thing I learnt about getting help on IRC and forums while i was modding my Xbox is that people are generally helpfull as long as you're willing to make some effort at learning and not getting spoon fed
[05:28] <Amako> yes, i understand.  i found a thread on the ubuntu forums on how to fix my Display but when i did a search for ibook g3 on the forum search tool nothing came up.  The way i found it was doing a Google search for the topic.  Thats the reason i was wondering if there is a secret to searching for things on the ubuntu forums.
[05:32] <pdg1> there probably is... but i don't know it
[05:32] <pdg1> and I doubt anyone else does... that's why it's a secret
[05:33] <Amako> LOL thanks man.  i think i found tons of info on how to get the ibook going.  i have to make a xorg.conf with the correct settings and that should take care of my first problem but thanks so far for the help.
[05:47] <connor_> hello there, i was just wondering how u turn on the advanced desktop effects in xubuntu. In ubuntu, you just right-click the desktop. I've downloaded and installed the compiz config settings manager, but ticking the effects doesnt change anything, can any1 help me?
[07:58] <tb45t> What is the button next to minimize called in Xfce?
[08:20] <Balsaq> how do i delete a partition
[08:20] <Balsaq> in terminal i mean
[08:20] <Balsaq> i tried arklinux and it is corrupt and i want to delete it
[08:21] <_Pete_> with fdisk
[08:22] <Balsaq> so do i .....terminal>sudo fdisk
[08:22] <_Pete_> sudo fdisk /dev/XXX
[08:22] <_Pete_> where XXX is your drive like sda
[08:23] <Balsaq> hmmm ok will try thanks
[08:27] <Balsaq> i have 4 lights in the back of my dell, they are for diagnostics, the one light is yellow which means a bad microprocessor...but i think it is ark linux becasue it let me run a dell disk for a long long time, but when i am in ark it shuts off and i get the yellow light
[08:28] <Balsaq> when i do a function outside of arklinux i have no problem...in arklinux i suddenly have a bad cpu?
[09:17] <Balsaq> ohhoh ainoa -lta minun tietokone on varmasti liata.
[09:18] <Balsaq> so i took out the rdram and put in this one
[09:21] <Balsaq> kas noin i-kirjain olen kiinnijuuttunut avulla tietokone että has ei rdram ja jokin jokin
[09:46] <randhol> Hi. I'm teaching my father to use Ubuntu (xubuntu actually). Problem is that the folder that are created automatically are in English: Download, Pictures etc... while in the filemanager etc... they are written in the local language (Norwegian). I would like that the original folders also are in Norwegian as it confuses my father that the same place has two names. I cannot find out how to set it up without breaking the system. Where is it defined that Pi
[09:46] <randhol> cture folder is Bilder (in norwegian). I would like to rename the Picture folder to Bilder and Documents to Dokumenter etc...
[09:46] <randhol> without breaking things
[09:51] <Sysi> i just renamed them, nothing broked
[09:52] <Sysi> but programs create new folders, if names tha they use don't match
[09:53] <Sysi> but those can be set up by hand
[09:53] <randhol> where I setup this
[09:53] <Sysi> on program itself
[09:54] <randhol> so there is no gconf or setp file I can change
[09:54] <Sysi> no
[09:54] <randhol> I mean thunar got after I switched language to Norwegian
[09:54] <randhol> all bookmarks in Norwegian
[09:54] <randhol> and they point to English named Folders
[09:55] <Sysi> it would have been better to make whole installation in norvegian
[10:11] <randhol> Well I don't want Norwegian
[10:11] <randhol> Easier to do things in English as I don't need to translate all howtos to manage to do changes
[10:12] <randhol> but
[10:12] <randhol> say I had installed in Norwegian
[10:12] <Sysi> hum
[10:12] <randhol> Then the folder would have gotten Norwegian names
[10:13] <randhol> so how then can firefox etc... find the Norwegian folder
[10:13] <randhol> I mean there must be some mechanisme here
[10:13] <randhol> F.ex Videos is Videoklipp
[10:13] <randhol> so if cheese is to use this folder by defualt it needs to know that this is the correct folder
[10:14] <randhol> that is why I'm thinking there myst be some setup file somewhere
[10:14] <Sysi> hmm, i don't know, i just did it as it worked :p
[10:15] <Sysi> i don't know if there's any common setup, because all programs have settings saved in home folder
[10:15] <randhol> arg
[10:15] <Sysi> in hidden folders
[10:15] <randhol> cheese generated a new directory called Videos
[10:18] <randhol> found it!
[10:18] <randhol> ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[11:19] <Fyksen> How do I get a widget like this: http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=337635 - Please PM me if you got an answer :)
[11:44] <slow-motion> hi
[13:07] <Amako> Just wanted to thank everyone for the help to get my ibook running.
[15:01] <kemek> Hi.
[15:01] <Ov3rf10w> hello kemek
[15:02] <kemek> Ive got frustrating problem. Is there anyone who would try to help me?
[15:02] <Sysi> !ask
[15:03] <Ov3rf10w> what problem?
[15:03] <kemek> [;
[15:03] <kemek> Now Im on Xubuntu and i had the same problem with Mandriva.
[15:03] <kemek> Very common problem with high CPU usage of Xorg
[15:04] <kemek> Ive read almost every topic in the Internet and still no idea...
[15:04] <likemindead> What's your hardware?
[15:04] <kemek> Ive got Dell D600
[15:04] <kemek> Radeon Mobility 9000. [;
[15:05] <kemek> Pentium M 1,6; 768 MB RAM
[15:05] <kemek> Its something like that.
[15:05] <kemek> :
[15:05] <likemindead> And Xorg is flipping out on you?
[15:06] <kemek> For example im watching a longer film on Youtube. Exerything is ok...
[15:06] <kemek> Cpu at about 60%.
[15:06] <likemindead> Is there an ATI driver you can install?
[15:06] <kemek> No. Ive gor open 'radeon'
[15:06] <Sysi> kemek: that's matter of flash, it uses lot of cpu
[15:07] <kemek> But wait...
[15:07] <kemek> 60% during plain watching is ok.
[15:07] <likemindead> Yeah, I can barely watch Flash videos on my old Dell C610...
[15:08] <kemek> But suddenly CPU goes 100%, film becomes presentation and computer responses like 486. [;
[15:08] <kemek> And here is interesting thing...
[15:08] <kemek> I kill Firefox (Opera or anything) and Xorg is still at 100% CPU
[15:09] <Sysi> for how long?
[15:09] <kemek> I have to reboot or leave computer for about 5-10 minutes to "refresh".
[15:09] <likemindead> Is there a "restricted" ATI driver you can try?
[15:09] <kemek> Ive read rv250 doesnt have working properiaty driver.
[15:09] <likemindead> (Go to System>Hardware Drivers)
[15:09] <likemindead> Ah...
[15:10] <kemek> Nothing. Only Wifi Broadcom card.
[15:10] <Sysi> if that's 1,6 ghz single core, flash eats it alive
[15:10] <kemek> Its not just a flash that causes it.
[15:10] <kemek> !
[15:10] <Sysi> also exists on other things?
[15:11] <kemek> Sometimes just higher cpu usage for some minutes and the same thing happens.
[15:11] <kemek> Encoding movie for example.
[15:12] <Sysi> yeah, it shouldn't rise cpu load for xorg process very much still
[15:12] <kemek> And sometimes just normal Firefox using.
[15:12] <likemindead> I'd fall back to 8.04, the Long Term Support release. It's a more stable branch. :-\
[15:13] <kemek> One process uses quite a lot of CPU -> 100% usage of Xorg and this process -> killing this process -> 100% Xorg usage
[15:13] <kemek> but i had the same problem in Mandriva
[15:13] <kemek> i thought that xfce would change something
[15:14] <Sysi> it don't change drivers
[15:14] <kemek> i know.
[15:14] <Sysi> xfce isn't available for mandriva?
[15:15] <kemek> yesterday i removed alsa and installed OSS and it decreased CPU usage even in flash movies. but this 100% usage still happens...
[15:15] <kemek> I dont know but i also wanted to try other distro. (;
[15:15] <hal> like what?
[15:17] <kemek> hmm. I mean, i didnt change to Xubuntu just to have a look at xfce, but also try other distribution. (;
[15:17] <hal> sure, you will find something you like. there are plenty out there
[15:18] <kemek> But still this problem? [;
[15:18] <hal> xubuntu has one major advantage, and that easy to use.
[15:18] <kemek> Im so frustrated sometimes...
[15:18] <hal> frustrated at what?
[15:18] <Sysi> have you used xp on that hardware?
[15:18] <hal> yes
[15:18] <Sysi> that should be frustrating
[15:19] <hal> i see
[15:19] <kemek> Once i turned on just Exaile, then radio station and Xorg ate 100%... And reboot! [;
[15:19] <Sysi> exaile actually isn't very lightweight
[15:20] <hal> no, not if you want them to do everything
[15:20] <kemek> Exactly. In last week i used win xp 3 times instead of Xubuntu.
[15:20] <kemek> And exerything is ok
[15:20] <Sysi> it's usable with that amount of memory?
[15:21] <kemek> Yes. It uses more memory but 768 MB is enough.
[15:21] <Sysi> woah
[15:22] <kemek> I encoded four 50minute videos in a row in Win Xp.
[15:22] <kemek> And it didnt crash.
[15:23] <kemek> So noone with a solution or same problem? [;
[15:23] <kemek> Maybe ill try 8.04
[15:23] <kemek> but its not a solution.
[15:23] <hal> i have never had a crash..yet
[15:24] <kemek> in dual core CPU it wouldnt be so annoying, but in this one its unusable... Just save session and reboot.
[15:25] <kemek> Hmm.
[15:25] <hal> p4 here and i have 2 p3's
[15:25] <kemek> Not mobile.
[15:25] <Sysi> my celeron machine with intel gpu crashed all the time
[15:26] <hal> havent tried celeron's
[15:26] <Sysi> with centos works, just need to get correct resolution
[15:26] <kemek> Ive read somewhere that turning off ACPI worked for some people. I know its trange, but is there a short command to do it?
[15:26] <Sysi> that's laptop
[15:27] <hal> not that i know of kemek
[15:27] <kemek> I know, but i would know if thats it.
[15:27] <hal> google it
[15:28] <Sysi> i think you need to put it at the end of kernel line in grub
[15:28] <kemek> add the line
[15:28] <kemek> hint.acpi.0.disabled="1"
[15:28] <kemek> to your /boot/device.hints file.
[15:30] <kemek> Dont have it. (; Ok. Ill look for it.
[15:35] <kemek> If there was something different than X11.
[15:37] <jcfp> kemek: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Common%20Boot%20Options for disabling acpi and the like
[15:38] <jcfp> previous sections on the same page show how to apply such options
[15:39] <kemek> thx. i was going to just turn it off in BIOS. [; ill check it in 15 minutes.
[16:07] <kemek> hmm. ive found earlier something about editing /boot/grub/menu.lst but i dont have this file
[16:08] <kemek> just create it?
[16:08] <Sysi> no
[16:08] <Sysi> it changed with new grub
[16:12] <kemek> ill try this temporary way and make some "benchmarks"
[16:13] <kemek> brb
[16:21] <kemek> Hmm. How can i check if ACPI was loaded or not?
[16:23] <kemek> if dmesg | grep ACPI shows something, does it mean ACPI loaded? [;
[16:29] <kemek> im so stupid. If cpu freq is changing then ACPI was on. [;
[16:34] <kemek> YT 40% CPU oO
[16:58] <kemek> crash...
[16:59] <kemek> just moving window gives 100%.
[17:00] <kemek> time to go back to windows. [;
[17:00] <kemek> thx for help
[17:49] <sircrazy> waddup fellas and ladies
[17:50] <likemindead> :::crickets chirping:::
[17:50] <likemindead> ;-)
[17:51]  * sircrazy doesnt like the idea of ubuntu publicly logging all the chats, isnt that frowned upon in freenode
[17:52] <Sysi> are offtopics logged also?
[17:53] <ubuntu> parted_server hangs during install from liveCD
[17:53] <ubuntu> suggestions?
[17:53] <sircrazy> surprisingly no Sysi , but every other ubuntu related one is
[17:56] <likemindead> You might try the "alternate" cd, ubuntu .
[17:58] <ubuntu> When i try to format it using gparted i get "The enclosing driver for the volume is locked"
[17:59] <Sysi> unmount it
[18:01] <ubuntu> its never been mounted on this live system
[18:02] <likemindead> Is it NTFS?
[18:02] <ubuntu> It was Ext4
[18:02] <likemindead> Strange.
[18:02] <ubuntu> Now i somehow got around to format it
[18:03] <likemindead> You could download Parted Magic & try it in no time. It's very powerful.
[18:03] <ubuntu> I can't do it with gparted?
[18:04] <likemindead> Should be able to... :-\
[18:05] <likemindead> I've never had a problem with it.
[18:05] <ubuntu> ok, now there is no partiton on the drive
[18:05] <ubuntu> What kind of data is stored on a drive that has no data?
[18:05] <ubuntu> *no partition
[18:06] <likemindead> Just unallocated space, usually.
[18:06] <likemindead> You can do with it as you please.
[18:07] <ubuntu> I see
[18:07] <likemindead> Sometimes it's recovery stuff from the PC manufacturer.
[18:07] <ubuntu> its a brand new intel SSD
[18:07] <ubuntu> I updated the firmware
[18:07] <ubuntu> it booted fine with the old OS
[18:07] <likemindead> Ah. I've never messed with SSD, really.
[18:07] <ubuntu> but i wanted to replace ubuntu with xubuntu
[18:08] <ubuntu> and here i am
[18:08] <ubuntu> :p
[18:08] <Sysi> you'd only need to intall xubuntu-desktop
[18:08] <ubuntu> I don't need all the gnome stufff
[18:08] <ubuntu> but i did install xubuntu-desktop
[18:09] <ubuntu> don't ask me why i decided to do a reinstall
[18:09] <Sysi> k
[18:10] <Sysi> you could try to create new partition table
[18:10] <ubuntu> Hmm
[18:10] <ubuntu> Created a new ext4 partiton
[18:10] <ubuntu> on the whole drive
[18:10] <ubuntu> and mounted it like so mount /dev/sdb1 /meda/test
[18:10] <ubuntu> works perfect
[18:10] <ubuntu> still get the same error
[18:10] <ubuntu> with the installer
[18:11] <ubuntu> ubiquity that is
[18:11] <ubuntu> Get a dialog with a lot of "????????" and an "ok" button
[18:12] <ubuntu> This is what gets dumped in the terminal http://pastebin.org/70820
[18:17] <likemindead> You might try one of the Ubuntu-based distros that has the kernel optimized for SSD use.
[18:17] <ubuntu> Ok
[18:17] <ubuntu> Like?
[18:18] <likemindead> There are several netbook oriented distros. Hold on a sec...
[18:18] <likemindead> http://www.internetling.com/2009/02/14/top-5-netbook-linux-distributions/
[18:19] <likemindead> And also: http://www.geteasypeasy.com/
[18:19] <ubuntu> I see
[18:19] <ubuntu> But i cant see why there should be a problem at all with the xubuntu installer. I have had 9.10 Gnome ubuntu installed before, on this very drive.
[18:21] <likemindead> Must be an Xfce specific problem. :-\
[18:21] <Sysi> but it's same installer
[18:21] <ubuntu> my thougts excatly
[18:22] <ubuntu> and the regular ubuntu installer fails as well
[18:22] <ubuntu> :S
[18:22] <ubuntu> Is there anything else I can do to completely erase any trace of anything on a disk
[18:22] <ubuntu> whats the dd command to fill it with zeroes?
[18:23] <ubuntu> uhm, this is getting weird.
[18:23] <ubuntu> Cause I can write to the disk from the command line
[18:24] <Sysi> use alternate disc?
[18:24] <ubuntu> gonna try that when I get home
[18:24] <ubuntu> ty for help so far
[18:26] <ubuntu> btw
[18:26] <ubuntu> are there any 10.04 build avaliable with xubuntu, rather than ubuntu?
[18:26] <ubuntu> Seems like the parted_server is fixed in 10.04 alpha
[18:27] <likemindead> !lucid
[18:28] <likemindead> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/current/
[18:33] <Aquina> I had a problem with the GNU utility "mv" and sent a message to the adress mentioned within the package description. What I received shocked mequite a bit! (http://pastebin.com/d3035ae8a)
[18:34] <charlie-tca> What version of Xubuntu?
[18:35] <Aquina> I'm using Xubuntu 8.04 (LTS) right now and the message says that "mv" is at leat 6 yrs old.
[18:35] <charlie-tca> 8.04 is almost three years old
[18:35] <Aquina> 2?
[18:35] <charlie-tca> 3
[18:35] <charlie-tca> august 2004
[18:36] <Aquina> I installed it in june 2008
[18:36] <Aquina> It came out in Apr. 2008
[18:36] <charlie-tca> no 2008, april
[18:36] <charlie-tca> and this is now 2010. It is three in april, 4 months from now
[18:36] <Aquina> Oh u're right nearly 3 yrs. :-)
[18:37] <Sysi> and half year dveloping
[18:37] <charlie-tca> Have you filed a launchpad bug on "mv"?
[18:37] <Aquina> Nevertheless why is my mv more than 6 years old? Are there backports for these utils?
[18:37] <charlie-tca> I don't know  off the top if backports are available.
[18:37] <Aquina> I want to discuss the code with the autor first beforehandin in a bug.
[18:38] <Aquina> I'm a computer scientist myself.
[18:39] <Sysi> have you told about this to canonical?
[18:39] <Aquina> Thanks for your help though. Maybe 3 years from the time of distribution of X 8.04 mv wasn't too old and I'm just overreacting. :-) / I had no contact with canonical.
[18:40] <charlie-tca> I suspect it may have been newer than the message indicates in 2007/2008
[18:40] <Aquina> But that's an interesting Idea since the coordinate that, huh?
[18:40] <charlie-tca> yes
[18:40] <Aquina> You mean it's eight not six years?
[18:41] <Aquina> (2002-09-01)
[18:41] <charlie-tca> no, I mean perhaps they fudged the dates slightly in the file
[18:42] <charlie-tca> We would have synced 8.04 files in about december 2007
[18:42] <Aquina> I see charlie-tca. Whom should I contact at Canonical?
[18:42] <Aquina> (Should I go via the official website?)
[18:42] <charlie-tca> OTOH, I show 34 packages with mv in them. Is it possible one of them overwrote the file with an older version?
[18:43] <charlie-tca> I would file a bug for it. I don't know who would be the contact directly
[18:44] <charlie-tca> ooops, I show zero packages containing "mv "
[18:45] <Aquina> Ok considering the file named "mv" in /bin (77540 bytes) it is stamped last change 4th Apr. 2008 08:42:37 CEST and last change (sys install date) July 07 2008.
[18:46] <Aquina> Hope it's the right one and I'm nut running a rootkit. :-)
[18:47] <charlie-tca> That seems right. The package coreutils in 8.04 was dated 2008-04-04
[18:47] <Aquina> Ah... the debian packet is not named mv but "fileutils" or "gnu-fileutils"
[18:47] <Aquina> There also exists "coreutils" and "sh-utils". These 3 contain the major GNU base utils.
[18:48] <Aquina> I'm searching for more files named mv in my system...
[18:48] <charlie-tca> right. coreutils in Ubuntu 8.04 was version 6.10
[18:49] <charlie-tca> all three packages were replaced by coreutils in 2002
[18:49] <charlie-tca> but it is still possible, I would think, to get an old version in an old package
[18:50] <Aquina> hmm...
[18:50] <Aquina> I have no other mv installed. So I think my system is correct.
[18:51] <Aquina> Will you handle the report, charlie-tca?
[18:51] <charlie-tca> What report?
[18:51] <Aquina> To canonical.
[18:52] <Aquina> "report" -eq "what ever you plan to do" :-)
[18:52] <charlie-tca> I didn't plan to do anything if your copy is from 2008
[18:52] <charlie-tca> I will do some research on this, and see if we are using an old text file, maybe?
[18:53] <Aquina> ok thanks :-)
[18:53] <charlie-tca> no problem
[18:53] <Aquina> Ah the version is 1.10 as far as I remember.
[18:54] <Aquina> I found online an older version 1.09 of mv which was buggy.
[18:54] <Aquina> :-)
[19:48] <emma> unquery
[19:48] <likemindead> !hi
[19:50] <Sysi> emma's oldie :)
[19:51] <likemindead> My apologies. ;-)
[19:59] <emma> hi
[19:59] <emma> :)
[21:12] <pm> hey, what are the chances of getting xubuntu to run decently on a 233 Mhz / 226 MB RAM machine?
[21:13] <charlie-tca> depends on decent
[21:13] <pm> need it mainly as a SVN/GIT server
[21:13] <charlie-tca> the ram looks to be too small at that speed to do much
[21:13] <Sysi> get lxde
[21:14] <charlie-tca> why not go a server install without the desktop environment them
[21:14] <pm> it had originally 64 MB, I upgraded ^^
[21:14] <Pres-Gas> pm, I agree with charlie-tca, server or at least Ubuntu minimal and build up from there.
[21:14] <charlie-tca> It will install from the alternate cd, but it will run really slow
[21:14] <pm> i have just installed ubuntu server but I need to configure a wireless WPA connection and it hurts a lot to configure that ^^
[21:14] <charlie-tca> yup
[21:15] <Sysi> crunchbang or lubuntu / openbox lxde would be better
[21:15] <charlie-tca> The 333MHz cpu I installed on was slower than I could use
[21:16] <Sysi> *openbox or lxde
[21:16] <Pres-Gas> Windowmaker FTW!!!
[21:16] <charlie-tca> Sounds right. I haven't run either one of those
[21:16] <Sysi> lubuntu is just ubuntu with lxde
[21:17] <pm> i had windows 200 advanced server running and it was fast enough
[21:17] <charlie-tca> Isn't that minimal Ubuntu with lxde, Sysi ?
[21:17] <Sysi> charlie-tca: idk, but something like that
[21:18] <charlie-tca> Okay. Some of you know me. I almost never say xubuntu won't work...
[21:18] <pm> isn't there a nice command-line tool to configure wireless with WPA?
[21:18] <pm> ;-)
[21:18] <Sysi> cnetworkmanager could be
[21:18] <charlie-tca> I don't know, I don't use wireless anymore
[21:19] <Pres-Gas> pm, you want to make your machine a wireless router, essentially?
[21:20] <charlie-tca> Maybe get Xubuntu 6.06, configure everything, then remove the desktop. In the older versions, configurations did not disappear with the desktop
[21:20] <pm> the plan is just to make it a svn / git server, but it doesn't have a wired network interface so I'm trying to get it to work with an old pcmcia wireless card i had lying around.
[21:20] <Pres-Gas> ummmmm.....this is a desktop?
[21:20] <Sysi> lxde worked well with nm-applet
[21:21] <pm> it's an old thinkpad 770, to be precise.
[21:23] <charlie-tca> hmmm, good luck
[21:25] <Pres-Gas> pm, I have some links for you to read over....
[21:25] <Pres-Gas> http://code.google.com/p/network-manager-cli/
[21:26] <Pres-Gas> http://vidner.net/martin/software/cnetworkmanager/
[21:26] <Pres-Gas> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetworkManager
[21:26] <Pres-Gas> Dive into that and see where you stand then, pm
[21:26] <charlie-tca> Aquina: my new install of 8.04 gives me the correct bug reporting address:
[21:26] <charlie-tca> Report bugs to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:09] <pm> Pres-Gas: thanks! will look into that.
[23:55] <kpomeroy> I'm having difficulties with the add/remove applications in Karmic, I click on it and nothing happens. Anyone run into this issue?