[01:28] <foxbuntu_laptop> zabadapp, I found the problem with the package that controls those settings. I just commited the changes it will be resolved in future releases
[01:28] <foxbuntu_laptop> thanks for the bug report
[01:40] <KillerKiwi2005> Hello, i have a pvr150 the composite in seems to only have video how do I capture the audio as well?
[01:47] <uid000> hi,  having a problem with spdif on my audigy 2.  anybody have experience with this?
[02:17] <uid000> on my audigy 2, all of a sudden the spdif has stopped working.  still getting analog sound out.  also ac3 passthrough works.  just regular sound out of spdif has stopped.
[02:17] <uid000> any advice?
[02:25] <macly> just wanted to thank everyone, I just got my mythtv box running perfectly, except for one thing, the initial volume settings, I'm trying to match the mythtv volume to the TV volume, but I've set the master volume down to 60 and I can't really hear a difference from 80.
[02:25] <macly> any suggestions?
[02:25] <macly> basically, I don't want to change from tv to mythtv, and blow the speakers off the TV (currently, it's close, but I'm a fscking perfectionist)
[02:26] <macly> sound card is a...
[02:26] <macly> it's an intel 8x0 card
[02:50] <nettow0822_> hey guys
[02:50] <nettow0822_> how are things with 8.04?
[02:56] <zabadapp> foxbuntu_laptop: I just discovered that /root has a .gtkrc-2.0 also ... so i.e. synaptic (started with su rights) looks wrong too unless it is removed ...
[02:56] <foxbuntu_laptop> zabadapp, our package doesn't put those there
[02:57] <foxbuntu_laptop> gdm does because of a setting in our package
[02:57] <foxbuntu_laptop> I changed it like 2 hours ago
[02:57] <foxbuntu_laptop> Thanks for the hit though made it easy to find for me
[02:57] <foxbuntu_laptop> hint*
[02:58] <foxbuntu_laptop> and for posting the bug
[03:40] <superm1> foxbuntu, you completely removed the .gtkrc-2.0?
[03:40] <zabadapp> foxbuntu_laptop: here's another bug :-) in /var/www/mythweb/data the softlink "video" points to /var/lib/mythtv/video, should be ../videoS ... same for video_covers
[03:40] <superm1> in the home directory of users?
[03:40] <superm1> or what'd you change?
[04:28] <pretender> my MythTV Digital stations now have a choppy picture since installing my 22" LCD Help
[07:34] <Cackette> Is there anything I have to do after a commercial-flag job?
[07:34] <Cackette> It says "Finished, 9 breaks found."
[08:58] <tritium> Is QAM tuning on an HDHomeRun still not working properly on 7.10?
[08:59] <tritium> I can get tuner 0 (connected to an antenna) to tune ATSC just fine, but I can't get tuner 1 (attached to cable) to tune QAM.
[09:01] <tritium> I hope I didn't make a mistake in buying one...
[09:15] <tritium> superm1: you have one, don't you?
[09:16] <superm1> i have a hdhome run
[09:16] <superm1> yeah
[09:16] <superm1> and qam tuning works fine on 7.10
[09:16] <superm1> make sure you update your firmware
[09:16] <tritium> Yeah, did that.
[09:17] <tritium> I'm about to try VLC.
[09:17] <tritium> I get an error in mythtv about being unable to display something or other.
[09:17] <superm1> try to tune a different station then
[09:18] <superm1> its very common that 90% of your stations dont come in over QAM
[09:18] <tritium> it fades out and takes me back out to the menu
[09:18] <superm1> even though they were part of the scan
[09:18] <superm1> like tune into your local PBS
[09:18] <superm1> or FOX
[09:18] <superm1> those are pretty reliable typically
[09:18] <tritium> Interesting.
[09:18] <tritium> Yeah, I tried changing stations too, but it had already taken me back out to the menu.
[09:19] <superm1> if that's your only tuner -
[09:19] <superm1> you need to set the default station
[09:19] <superm1> in mythtv-setup
[09:19] <superm1> to a different station
[09:19] <superm1> unfortunately
[09:19] <tritium> It's not.  I have a DViCO in the box as well.
[09:22] <tritium> Maybe tuner1 is bad.
[09:23] <tritium> Now I'm just getting "You should have gotten a channel lock by now..."  At least that's better than it dropping back to the menu.
[09:31] <tritium> Well, perhaps I'll send it back.  Good night.
[09:32] <superm1> nigth
[09:36] <tritium> Yeah, this must be a bad tuner.  I can't tune to FOX, PBS, anything at all.
[14:18] <nettow_> i just re-installed 7.10 but
[14:18] <nettow_> I have no sound....
[14:20] <nettow_> It worked before
[14:38] <runoff> PVR-150 help was working as /dev/video0...mythtv on ubuntu...now on backend setup "failed to open" when trying to add card...ideas?
[14:39] <lime4x4> is it possible to reconfigure vnc on a mythbox remotly thru ssh?
[15:16] <runoff> new hardware has shown up in restricted drivers Lucent/Agere linmodem control driver...new not enable..a conflict...no modem on machine...I have been reloading nvidia driver but that shouldn't kill pvr-150?
[16:26] <MythbuntuGuest93> hi
[16:26] <MythbuntuGuest93> i have just built a pc from scratch with the intention of installing mythbuntu. i downloaded
[16:26] <MythbuntuGuest93> the amd64 iso and burned it
[16:27] <MythbuntuGuest93> when i try to load the live cd
[16:27] <MythbuntuGuest93> the install freezes at "running local boot scripts"
[16:27] <MythbuntuGuest93> can anyone help?
[16:31] <directhex> oh, fuck's sake, why do they never wait for a reply?
[16:31] <Daviey> !patience
[16:31] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[16:31] <Daviey> 3 mins
[16:31] <MythbuntuGuest48> hi i am getting the the install freezing at the "running local boot scripts stage
[16:31] <MythbuntuGuest48> can anyone help?
[16:32] <directhex> MythbuntuGuest48, how long are you waiting before assuming it's frozen?
[16:38] <zabadapp> MythbuntuGuest48: try running with failsafe graphics mode (a choice in the very beginnig), helped when my install turned black and froze
[16:41] <MythbuntuGuest48>  i have waited about 10minutes
[16:42] <MythbuntuGuest48> i am connecting both hdd and dvd via one ide cable
[16:42] <MythbuntuGuest48> so i am aware that is supposed to decrease performence but should it be taking that long?
[16:43] <MythbuntuGuest48> (i tried the failsafe mode but it did the same thing. am i not waiting long enough? how long should it take approx?
[16:52] <nettow> i re-loaded 7.04 gusty and I have no sound
[16:53] <nettow> I think it has something to do with a conflict with my tuner cards
[16:59] <nettow> I have pcHDTV HD-5500 & Dvico FusionHDTV5 Gold
[17:00] <nettow> everything worked before
[17:03] <directhex> load alsamixer, flip the iec956 switch
[17:04] <nettow> doesn't alsamixer come loaded?
[17:05] <nettow> I didn't have to do anything before
[17:07] <directhex> then it obviously works now, and you shouldn't try any suggestions on fixing it
[17:09] <nettow> it hasn't work since the install...where did I say it worked?
[17:10] <nettow> i'm not an idiot
[17:11] <directhex> so have you tried the solution as suggested 8 minutes ago?
[17:15] <nettow> yes...it didn't  work
[17:15] <nettow> I have since fixed it ty
[17:15] <nettow> it didn't take me 8 minutes either
[17:16] <nettow> i hope someone treats you the same way
[17:17] <nettow> also you need to get off this channel...since you bed side manner isn't what linux is all about
[17:21] <MythbuntuGuest48> hi i am getting the the install freezing at the "running local boot scripts stage
[17:21] <MythbuntuGuest48> i posted this before, does anybody have any ideas?
[17:22] <tgm4883_laptop> nettow, did you flip the iec956 switch as directhex has suggested?
[17:22] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest48, gutsy or hardy?
[17:23] <nettow> tgm4883_laptop I changed the device under the volume setting to get it to work
[17:23] <nettow> I got some help from the ubuntu room
[17:23] <tgm4883_laptop> nettow, so it works now?
[17:23] <nettow> yes it works now
[17:23] <tgm4883_laptop> what device did you change it to
[17:24] <nettow> It was set to the tuner card audio not my motherboard audio
[17:25] <tgm4883_laptop> did one of those happen to be the iec956?
[17:25] <nettow> no
[17:25] <tgm4883_laptop> k
[17:27] <nettow> thanks for your help
[17:36] <MythbuntuGuest48> i am new to this. i downloaded the .10 iso of mythbuntu from this site
[17:37] <MythbuntuGuest48> *7.10
[17:43] <directhex> graphics card?
[18:03] <MythbuntuGuest48> i am using th on board vga, on my asus  motherboard
[18:04] <adaptr> yes, sure, whatever - *what* video ?
[18:12] <directhex> adaptr, it's connected with some kind of plug!
[18:13] <adaptr> directhex: never! I don't believe you
[18:38] <S|eepy> Evening folks
[18:39] <S|eepy> Just thought I wopuld drop by and see if anyone could tell me if MythBuntu works with FloppyDTV SVB-S2 cards?
[18:39] <S|eepy> Windows MCE is no good to me as it doesnt support HD in the UK - plus would rather go the linux route of possible anyway!
[18:41] <directhex> there's no stable dvb-s2 api
[18:41] <directhex> and no FTA dvb-s2 service in the uk
[18:42] <S|eepy> not good :(
[18:42] <directhex> the only fta hd channel in the uk is bbc-hd, which is on regular dvb-s
[18:43] <S|eepy> True.  Although I can clear C4 HD with my Sky card
[18:43] <S|eepy> Which is a start I guess
[18:43] <S|eepy> With regards to mythbuntu, does it support usals?  So could it drive my motor?
[18:44] <directhex> diseqc is supported by mythtv
[18:44] <directhex> don't think usals is
[18:45] <S|eepy> maybe a silly question, but could I use diseqc instead?  I have only ever used usals, entering my long/lat and away I go.  Is disecq totally different?
[18:45] <directhex> that said, google suggests it IS supported, though buggy in 0.20
[18:45] <S|eepy> ahh - nice one
[18:46] <S|eepy> hmm.  so i guess this could be viable.
[18:46] <S|eepy> guess i could just load it all in vmware to start with, prove it can do what I need. if so move across fully
[18:47] <directhex> i don't think vmware allows you to pass through devices like tuner cards to a sufficient degree that they work
[18:47] <superm1> only if they are usb
[18:47] <superm1> or ethernet
[18:47] <S|eepy> doh!
[18:48] <S|eepy> ah well, gonna have to wait till the missus aint in and start messing about I guess :-)
[18:48] <directhex> it's superm1!
[18:48] <superm1> hi kids
[18:48] <directhex> presumably there were problems too great for the regular m1
[18:49] <superm1> well of course
[20:28] <Cackette> What are the difference between the Record Profiles: "Default, Live TV, High Quality, Low Quality"?
[20:34] <adaptr> the... quality >?
[21:12] <Rigolo> good evening
[21:12] <Rigolo> superm1: any idea when alpha 3 will be released?
[21:12] <superm1> i'm just doing tests on the disk right now
[21:12] <Rigolo> okee
[21:13] <superm1> so provided i dont find anything wrong tomorrow or the day after
[21:13] <Rigolo> I will wait for it ...
[21:13] <Rigolo> maybe an other question in the mean time ... and it is not mythbunut specific
[21:13] <Rigolo> I've installed a number of packages since I installed my mythbuntu system
[21:13] <Rigolo> most of them I do not need anymore ...
[21:14] <superm1> right
[21:14] <Rigolo> they were just to see things, or even to compile stuff
[21:14] <Rigolo> how can I ge a list of "additional" packages
[21:14] <Rigolo> so those that are not part of the default install
[21:14] <Rigolo> so that I can get through them and remove the once that are no longer intresting
[21:16] <superm1> well easiest way is to look at your dpkg.log
[21:16] <superm1> to see what you've installed
[21:16] <superm1> in /var/log
[21:16] <Rigolo> I've looked at the dpkg logs .. but it also lists the upgrades of "base" packages
[21:16] <superm1> yeah
[21:17] <superm1> well any that you remember, remove those
[21:17] <superm1> and the dependencies then show up in autoremovable
[21:17] <Rigolo> I'm working on that .. but isn't there a base list of packages that is used during an intall or something?
[21:17] <superm1> well yeah mythbuntu-desktop
[21:17] <superm1> and mythbuntu-live's dependencies
[21:17] <Rigolo> and then just compair that to the currently installed packages?
[21:18] <superm1> well i wouldnt do it that route
[21:18] <superm1> there are a few not listed in there that may have gotten installed
[21:18] <superm1> and additionally, that won't show all the dependencies that route
[21:18] <Rigolo> I saw deborphan ... and you can do some "marking" or something like that ... but that only works when you start with a fresh install
[21:19] <Rigolo> so, take a clean system .. do an clean install .. do an apt-get update / apt-get upgrade
[21:19] <Rigolo> and then dump the installed package list
[21:19] <Rigolo> and compare that?
[21:20] <superm1> yeah well i'd not worry so much though
[21:20] <superm1> i mean how much more space are you really adding?
[21:20] <Rigolo> I just like a clean system ... I'm moving all my builds and compiles to a vmware image at the moment .. so that I have a nice "clean" desktop
[21:21] <superm1> ah
[21:21] <superm1> well the other thing too is start removing packages -dev packages
[21:21] <superm1> and such
[21:21] <superm1> and look what else it is taking out
[21:21] <superm1> if anything touches mythtv xfce or mythbuntu stuff dont remove it
[21:21] <superm1> otherwise do so
[21:22] <Rigolo> that is a start .. but still more like a hit and run tactic than a real thourogh approach ...
[21:22] <superm1> i regularly use that tactic on my box :)
[21:22] <superm1> i notice that i try something and then something else and the list goes up
[21:22] <superm1> but i've got a good idea of what is supposed to be around
[21:23] <Rigolo> somebody else must have had this question before me .... but googleing for ubuntu clean packages etc gives you a lot of hits .. and most of them not really usefull
[21:23] <Rigolo> btw ... are there already weekly 0.21 builds around?
[21:23] <Rigolo> hidden somewhere :-)
[21:26] <superm1> yes they are on the trunk repo
[21:26] <superm1> and on hardy
[21:26] <Rigolo> trunk == 0.21 still?
[21:26] <superm1> yes
[21:26] <Rigolo> okee
[21:30] <superm1> okay only see one bug to fix with mcc
[21:30] <superm1> and then should be good
[21:31] <Rigolo> and this alpha 3 .. is based on the ubuntu alpha 3 also? or already on alpha 4 of ubuntu?
[21:32] <superm1> its on the latest ubuntu archive
[21:32] <superm1> which is later than the latest ubuntu alpha
[21:32] <superm1> its just the third disk we've spun so that's where it gets its title
[21:32] <directhex> superm1, will the mythbuntu auto-builds be explicitly switched to the 0.21-fixes branch anytime soon? i.e. safely before 0.21 releases?
[21:32] <Rigolo> okee, so the mythbuntu alpha numbers do not match ubuntu's ... good to know
[21:32] <superm1> directhex, the autobuilds for trunk already do that
[21:32] <superm1> will just switch the ppa they push to
[21:33] <superm1> to go to mythbuntu instead of mythbuntu-trunk
[21:33] <directhex> so the "trunk" builds actually build 0.21-fixes? that makes me feel much safer
[21:33] <superm1> yeah they do
[21:33] <directhex> worth modifying the wobsite to reflect that?
[21:33] <Rigolo> I was just going to say .. trunk is not trunk :-) .. but 0.21 fixes in reality
[21:34] <superm1> directhex, i think the website was already updated for that
[21:34] <directhex> Rigolo, that's the case today
[21:34] <superm1> someone eas confused
[21:34] <directhex> Rigolo, can you assure me it will be the case in 2 weeks? a month? 2 months?
[21:34] <Rigolo> not me :-)
[21:35] <directhex> Rigolo, as someone who's been burnt by the difference between "testing" and "sarge", i think it's good to take measures in advance ;)
[21:35] <directhex> (back when sarge was testing, and stable)
[21:38] <Rigolo> but I agree with directhex , it would be good to put on the website that for the moment there are no "real" trunk builds .. but 0.21-fixes builds pretending to be trunk :-)
[21:38] <superm1> well its not like trunk is really changing right now
[21:38] <superm1> 0.21 fixes is
[21:38] <superm1> but okay
[21:40] <directhex> it'd eliminate confusion, which is the important thing really
[21:41] <Rigolo> brb ... doing a reboot and see if my installation still works after I have remove some packages :-)
[21:42] <directhex> IMHO one of the best features in 0.21 is the new renderer selection. with the gl renderer and osd, it looks infinitely better
[21:45] <Egghead3> directhex, i have to agree, it was weel worth changing from 7.10
[21:46] <superm1> directhex, i'm turning off xvmc opengl on the next build though
[21:46] <superm1> you just mean the opengl renderer right
[21:47] <Rigolo> well .. that worked :-)
[21:48] <directhex> superm1, well, duh, i've got more than 8mhz lying about, i don't need xvmc
[21:48] <superm1> i do unfortunately
[21:48] <superm1> on my 2.8ghz pentium d
[21:48] <superm1> i cant even do fscking bob with out it
[21:48] <directhex> really? my FE/BE is a 3ghz pentium-d
[21:48] <directhex> hang on, you said you didn't have an amd64 box!
[21:48] <superm1> this is a FE only too
[21:48] <superm1> no i dont
[21:48] <superm1> its i386
[21:49] <directhex> yes you do!
[21:49] <superm1> well its not running amd64 code though
[21:49] <directhex> well, yeah, but it *coukd* ;)
[21:49] <superm1> haha well yeah it "could" i guess, but try setting up a chroot for netbooting an amd64 from an i386 box...
[21:50] <directhex> sounds like fun!
[21:50]  * Rigolo still needs to play with netbooting ... that is what the nslu2 I have standing next to me is going to do ...
[21:52] <superm1> directhex, but maybe i'll put a hard drive in there
[21:52] <superm1> and do an amd64 install of a3
[21:52] <superm1> once davemorris or tgm generates one
[21:52] <superm1> then i can build them in the future too i guess
[21:54] <directhex> disks are cheap
[21:56] <superm1> yeah but so am i ;)
[21:56] <superm1> and netboots are cool
[22:11] <akant2> mythbuntu rox
[22:11] <akant2> :)
[22:17] <directhex> so does beer
[22:17] <directhex> mythbuntu is cheaper though
[22:54] <akant2> mythbuntu + beer :)
[22:56] <directhex> mythbeertoo
[22:57] <adaptr> mybeerone
[22:59] <directhex> i have a cold. too ill for beer
[22:59] <directhex> maybe a lemsip though
[23:24] <Viaken> I'm just curious... how far behind do releases lag? How long might I expect to wait after Ubuntu's Hardy release for it to be a good time to upgrade my frontend?
[23:24] <Viaken> I know it can be hard to say, and any number is to be taken with a grain of salt..
[23:24] <superm1> the target is the same time release
[23:25] <superm1> the only fixes that go in after are installer fixes
[23:25] <superm1> and live mode fixes
[23:25] <superm1> the archives are frozen
[23:25] <superm1> Viaken, but the sooner you can upgrade the more beneficial it is to us.  Catching upgrade bugs early is very important
[23:27] <directhex> superm1, i'd love to upgrade, but my experiences with ubuntu pre-releases are that they can be *very* hairy until about a fortnight before release. i tend to upgrade 1 month before release, and usually end up hitting really sticky bugs
[23:28] <Viaken> I would if I was the only one using the system. :\ I'm on Hardy on my laptop already. Some fairly nice systems...
[23:28] <directhex> the "udev in /etc/rc.* multiple times" one really screwed me over
[23:28] <Viaken> nice upgrades* lack of sleep getting to me. lol
[23:28] <Viaken> However, this is my family's DVR, and none of them have touched Linux. Most are ...very..not computer savvy.
[23:28] <superm1> directhex, yeah as long as you do with some time left to fix upgrade bugs, that's fine :)
[23:34] <Seeker`> what is the minimum bitrate for analog recordings to look as good as the actual broadcast?
[23:35] <superm1> directhex, and fyi, 1 month is like 1-2 weeks from now :)
[23:35] <Seeker`> I am using it on a TFT monitor


[00:01] <keithzg-n9> Do any of the alt-tab effects work for anyone on 13.10? On 3 different machines now I've seen them do zilch.
[00:12] <seattlegaucho> keithzg-n9: alt-tab shows desktop ... it used to switch between windows ... on 13.04 still
[00:12] <seattlegaucho> ... a *very* annoying and unexpected change in behavior
[00:36] <keithzg-n9> seattlegaucho: Huh? It's clearly switching between windows for me, including on a fresh new 13.10 install
[00:37] <keithzg-n9> it's just that enabling or disabling the related desktop effects doesn't change the look of the window switching.
[01:16] <seattlegaucho> I guess I'll have to spend some time reviewing settings :/
[01:41] <donavan01> so when i use chrome in windows they have the tab bar and the windows title bar all rolled into one ... is there a way to do that on Kubuntu?
[02:04] <Roey> hi
[02:10] <Roey> I do "virtualenv bywaf", then execute "source bin/activate", then "bywaf" and get this:  http://pastebin.com/cMuwknjY   <-- this is an issue with Python library version mismatch, as shown here:  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16301735/importerror-cannot-import-name-maxrepeat-with-cx-freeze    I tried this advice, but I still see the same error.
[04:26] <naught101> Has anyone else had problems connecting to wired networks with kubuntu 13.04? They don't even show up in my network manager applet anymore
[04:33] <naught101> urgh... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1241897
[05:30] <noaXess> good morning
[05:30] <noaXess> since days i always get a new nameserver entry into /etc/resolv.conf which is wrong..
[05:31] <noaXess> from where does this entry come and how to prevent adding it automatically?
[05:33] <noaXess> each time i reconnect wlan or lan interface i got the wrong nameserver entry.. seams there is any static entry anywhere
[07:20] <Guest39965> alizadeh
[07:20] <yossarianuk> I tried the latest ubuntu yeserday - its like spamming yourself everytime you search for an application....
[07:20] <Guest39965> i dont speaK ENGLISH
[07:21] <Guest39965> HELLO
[07:21] <lordievader> Guest39965: Where are you from?
[07:21] <lordievader> Possibly there is a room in your language.
[07:21] <Guest39965> IRAN
[07:21] <Guest39965> YOU..?
[07:21] <Guest39965> WHAT..?
[07:22] <yossarianuk> I would avoid talking in CAPS or you will likely just be ignored
[07:22] <lordievader> !iran | Guest39965
[07:22] <lordievader> !arabic ?
[07:22] <Guest39965> PERSIAN
[07:23] <Guest39965> YOU CAN SPEAK PERSIAN NOW..?
[07:23] <lordievader> Ah !ir | Guest39965
[07:23] <lordievader> !ir| Guest39965
[07:23] <yossarianuk> !open the podbay doors
[07:24] <yossarianuk> the workaround for Kubuntu 13.10 UEFI issue causes issues btw if you deual boot your system with ubuntu....
[07:24] <yossarianuk> hen you get multiple UEFI entries that all load ubuntu by default
[07:24] <yossarianuk>  you can select 'ubuntu 13.10' further down the list to load kubuntu in grub.
[07:24] <yossarianuk> !would you like to play a game of chess
[07:25] <yossarianuk> yeh the bot has no intellegence.
[07:25] <Guest39965> INTELLEGENCE..?!
[07:26] <Guest39965> YOU WEB..?
[07:26] <lordievader> Guest39965: Please refrain from using caps, makes it look like you are screaming.
[07:26] <Guest39965> BAY
[07:27] <yossarianuk> Guest39965: I was talking to the bot
[07:27] <Guest39965> I DONT SPEAK ENGLISH NOW
[07:28] <lordievader> !caps | Guest39965
[07:29] <yossarianuk> i've added to ignore list....
[08:41] <Tokeiito> hello
[08:41] <gaga_rin> hello
[08:41] <Tokeiito> should i report this problem: after i install nvidia-prime, my lightdm.conf greeter is changed to unity-greeter
[08:41] <Tokeiito> and ofc lightdm hangs
[08:42] <Tokeiito> to fix that i should manualy change greeter option to lightdm-kde-greeter
[08:42] <lordievader> Tokeiito: Yes if that package is ment for other things besides Ubuntu.
[08:43] <Tokeiito> well it does not depends from any ubuntu package. does not install any ubuntu dependencies. just brokes kubuntu desktop installation.
[08:43] <Tokeiito> where should i report that?
[08:44] <lordievader> Tokeiito: I'd say here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime
[08:44] <Tokeiito> thank you
[08:45] <lordievader> Tokeiito: Or mabe it is bug #1224098
[08:49] <Tokeiito> mhm its the same. wrote comment. thank you for info.
[08:50] <lordievader> Tokeiito: No problem ;)
[09:23] <Guest40345> Hello all. I would like to ask you for help. I have installed Kubuntu 13.10 and it seems ok. However, I have 2 problems. The first problem is that my wifi isn't working until I go to sleep mode and after turning on the pc, the wifi is working without problems.
[09:24] <Guest40345> The second problem is that I have 2 graphic cards(one integrated HD 4000 and Nvidia 740m), but the Kubuntu recognizes only the integrated one. There isn't an option in BIOS to set only one graphic card.
[09:24] <Guest40345> Any ideas how to fix this? Thanks a lot.
[10:07] <amichair> I'm on 13.10, getting a lot of window freezes of Chrome - I thought it was just that, but now it happened on Skype too, so maybe it's NVidia drivers or something. Window totally frozen, but minimize+restore it and it's back to normal. Is this a known issue?
[10:08] <cryptonide> which version of caligra and amarok are shipped with 13.10?
[10:32] <shadeslayer> lordievader: re bug 1224098, it's a silly bug in preinst.in
[10:32] <shadeslayer> should be fixed soon
[10:33] <lordievader> shadeslayer: Ok great :) Not that I use nvidia ;)
[10:34] <shadeslayer> yeah, even then :)
[10:34] <shadeslayer> I just scroll through the backlog looking at bugs :P
[10:39] <amichair> amichair: konsole just froze too. so it's probaby X or NVidia causing the freeze... anybody know something about this?
[10:55] <vedu> hello. after installing nvidia drivers, i lost all the transperancy effects.
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:18] <Walex> vedu: most likely you have lost GL/RANDR acceleration too, double check that the nVidia driver installation was successful.
[14:14] <tafkab76> hi, is this the right place to ask a question about kubuntu 1310 installation?
[14:14] <tafkab76> 13.10
[14:14] <lordievader> tafkab76: Jup, this is the right room ;)
[14:16] <tafkab76> excellent. I installed Kubuntu alongside Windows 7. Actually the installation went fine, but if I choose "Windows /" from the Boot menu, the screen turns bölack for a few seconds and then the bootmenu appears again.
[14:16] <tafkab76> ("Windows 7")
[14:17] <lordievader> tafkab76: Are all the Win7 partitions intact?
[14:18] <tafkab76> at least they were before the installation of Kubuntu. For more information, this is a thread concerning my problem: http://forum.kubuntu-de.org/index.php?topic=17314.0
[14:19] <lordievader> tafkab76: Is this a UEFI or a BIOS computer we are talking about?
[14:22] <tafkab76> BIOS based (Thinkpad T420)
[14:23] <lordievader> Ok well make sure your Windows partitions are intact.
[14:23] <LOonix> he
[14:24] <tafkab76> how would I do that? chkdsk?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> tafkab76.  try running this command , sudo os-prober, then run, sudo update-grub
[14:26] <tafkab76> BluesKaj: ok, I will try in a few minutes
[14:26] <lordievader> tafkab76: Run "sudo fdisk -l" and see if there are NTFS partitions listed.
[14:30] <BluesKaj> tafkab76. those commands should find the mbr with grub on it and restrore the windows OS to the list
[14:30] <tafkab76> lordievader: it only shows sdb, not sda. But sda is only for user data like images, etc.
[14:31] <BluesKaj> thembr should be on sda
[14:31] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Not neccesarely.
[14:31] <tafkab76> I will now try os-prober
[14:32] <lordievader> tafkab76: You could mount those ntfs partition to see if they contain your windows install.
[14:32] <tafkab76> and I think I had no choise to define which (hardware) disk is sda and which is sdb.
[14:33] <BluesKaj> lordievader. maybe so , but it's usually the default method  to install grub on the mbr
[14:34] <tafkab76> sudo os-prober result: /dev(sdb1: Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain
[14:34] <tafkab76> I will now update grub and restart
[14:35] <tafkab76> didn´t work :-(
[14:36] <BluesKaj> tafkab76. did you run , sudo update-grub
[14:36] <BluesKaj> ?
[14:36] <tafkab76> yes
[14:36] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:37] <BluesKaj> ok boot repair seems to be in order
[14:39] <BluesKaj> but , tafkab76 as lordievader suggested make sure you have a ntfs partition , otherwise boot repair is uneccessary
[14:40] <BluesKaj> tafkab76. have you rebooted since running the grub commands ?
[14:41] <tafkab76> BluesKaj. yes
[14:42] <tafkab76> BluesKaj. Partitions seem to be ok, I can see and explore them in the partition manager. the windows OS files are on sdb2.
[14:42] <BluesKaj> do you a ntfs partition wirh data on it
[14:42] <BluesKaj> have
[14:42] <tafkab76> U can see the partitions in this thread:
[14:42] <tafkab76> http://forum.kubuntu-de.org/index.php?topic=17314.0
[14:42] <BluesKaj> !boot-repair
[14:43] <BluesKaj> !info boot-repair
[14:43] <BluesKaj> hmm
[14:43] <goodtime> not good
[14:44] <tafkab76> is it ok that the boot entry says "/dev(sdb1: Windows 7 (loader)", while the OS files are on sdb2?
[14:46] <lordievader> tafkab76: Yes, for as far as I know Win7 keeps its boot files on another partition.
[14:46] <BluesKaj> tafkab76. , did you buy the pc wih W7 preinstalled ? If so then you have a recovery partition and  a windows page file partition (I think)
[14:47] <BluesKaj> yeah boot files
[14:48] <tafkab76> BluesKaj. I think what lordievader says is right. sdb1 is only 100MB in size. But isn´t that the partiton where grub is installed too? So maybe grub keeps calling itself?
[14:49] <lordievader> tafkab76: No grub installs itself to the mbr.
[14:49] <tafkab76> ok
[14:49] <BluesKaj> tafkab76. normally if windows is preinstalled the mbr is on sda, that's where grub tries to install itself
[14:51] <BluesKaj> tafkab76.f recommend boot-repair , it's worked seversl time for me , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:51] <tafkab76> lueskaj. In my case it wasn´t preinstalled. I installed it from scratch on the internal ssd. When i Installed Kubuntu the ssd (with Windows 7 OS) was detected as sdb.
[14:52] <BluesKaj> then boot-repair is you best bet bet
[14:52] <BluesKaj> bet :)
[14:52] <goodtime> i hate 7
[14:52] <goodtime> but i like 8 lol
[14:53] <BluesKaj> w7 works well here
[14:54] <tafkab76> blueskaj. ok, i´m downloading boot-repair right now
[14:55] <tafkab76> running boot-repair...
[14:57] <tafkab76> results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6289424/
[14:57] <tafkab76> I will now reboot...
[14:58] <tafkab76> :-)
[14:59] <tafkab76> It works and I think I had the right idea at 16:44
[14:59] <tafkab76> I now have to entries with Windows 7, one on sda1 and the other one on sda2
[14:59] <tafkab76> the one on sda2 works
[15:00] <tafkab76> thank you!
[15:00] <tafkab76> (sdB1 and sdB2 that is)
[15:00] <BluesKaj> tafkab76. np , glad it works , that was quick
[15:00] <lordievader> tafkab76: Great that it works :) May I ask why sda2 has a boot flag?
[15:01] <tafkab76> yes, really quick, thank you again. and I have no idea why sda2 has a boot flag. Where did you see that?
[15:01] <lordievader> tafkab76: In your pastebin.
[15:02] <lordievader> Line 90
[15:03] <tafkab76> hmmm...honestly I have no idea. I formatted the partition from the windows 7 desktop. Is it maybe because I marked it as primary partition?
[15:05] <tafkab76> in which file can I delete the bad boot menu entry of Windows 7? I only know that it´s not grub.cfg
[15:05] <lordievader> tafkab76: Oh well it's not important, was just curious.
[15:33] <amichair> I'm on 13.10, getting a lot of window freezes of various applications (not only kde), mostly Chrome -the  window is totally frozen, but minimize+restore it and it's back to normal. Is this a known issue? NVidia drivers maybe?
[16:05] <therazr> Has anyone tried to input Japanese in Kubuntu 13.10?
[16:05] <therazr> with ibus
[16:07] <lordievader> therazr: I have at times.
[16:07] <therazr> lordievader: How do you set ibus as the default input method with KDE?
[16:08] <lordievader> therazr: I allways used the ctrl+space shortcut to enable it.
[16:10] <therazr> lordievader: I'm talking about setting it as the default input method, not changing the current layouts. Without the former step, I can't change to ibus at all
[16:10] <lordievader> therazr: You mean you cannot type anything in Japanese even if you active ibus?
[16:11] <therazr> lordievader: No, I can't activate ibus, that's the problem
[16:11] <lordievader> therazr: Anty is setup as one of the input methods?
[16:12] <therazr> lordievader: I can't run ibus, so I can't set anthy :P
[16:12] <therazr> unlike unity, there is no GUI to swith to ibus in Kubuntu
[16:12] <lordievader> therazr: Hold on let me see if I can get Japanese input working on this machine.
[16:13] <therazr> lordievader: The problem is with Kubuntu 13.10 only though, with previous versions I had no problems :P
[16:13] <therazr> when I run ibus from terminal, it crashes upon start, seems to be broken
[16:16] <lordievader> I see what you mean, you also get the gi.repository error?
[16:20] <Whiskey`Wonka> http://pastebin.com/5h8WuWGT
[16:20] <Whiskey`Wonka> anyone have any idea why the google package maker installs (with errors) and then does this
[16:21] <Whiskey`Wonka> when ever i want ot install things later
[16:26] <lordievader> Hmm too bad therazr is gone, I found the solution...
[16:39] <genii> lordievader: You should post it anyways, for others later that may be searching through irc logs :)
[16:40] <lordievader> The fix is to install gir1.2-gtk-3.0, I will make a bug report about the missing dependency later.
[16:46] <Whiskey`Wonka> lordievader: wanna take a stab at the google package depends issues? =)
[16:58] <lordievader> Whiskey`Wonka: For as far as I know the ia32-libs don't exist any more in 13.10.
[16:58] <Whiskey`Wonka> lordievader: i know, thats what has me confused
[16:59] <Whiskey`Wonka> why would the package builder for 13.10 make it dep
[17:00] <lordievader> Whiskey`Wonka: What package are you trying to install?
[17:00] <Whiskey`Wonka> google earth
[17:00] <Whiskey`Wonka> using the package builder
[17:01] <Whiskey`Wonka> make-googleearth-package
[17:01] <lordievader> !info google-earth
[17:01] <Whiskey`Wonka> !info make-googleearth-package
[17:01] <Whiskey`Wonka> interesting, that one does
[17:02] <lordievader> Whiskey`Wonka: A 3rd party repo?
[17:02] <Whiskey`Wonka> uhm, ill look
[17:04] <Whiskey`Wonka> !info googleearth-package
[17:09] <Whiskey`Wonka> uhg!
[17:09] <Whiskey`Wonka> wish i had never upgraded to 13.10
[17:09] <yossarianuk> 13.10 is better in all respects except UEFI.
[17:10] <Whiskey`Wonka> just found that teamviewer is also broken due to lib32asound2 ia32-libs
[17:10] <lordievader> Whiskey`Wonka: These are the 14.04 dependencies, not sure if they are different in Saucy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6290125/
[17:10] <Whiskey`Wonka> yossarianuk: You sir are wrong.
[17:10] <lordievader> Whiskey`Wonka: I'm not sure where ia32-libs comes along.
[17:11] <Whiskey`Wonka> lordievader: right ive looked at that, its the same that muon spits but its not what dpkg -i says
[17:11] <Whiskey`Wonka> is there a way to get a more verbose output of the install?
[17:12] <Whiskey`Wonka> and now im in a crunch for a cross platform remote desktop app
[17:14] <yossarianuk> If your just connecting to Linux machines NX server is very good (and faster than any other method)
[17:14] <yossarianuk> if your connect ing to windows though obviously that is not useful
[17:14] <genii> ia32-libs has been superceded by multiarch
[17:15] <yossarianuk> only a closed source app needs 32bit libs.
[17:15] <Whiskey`Wonka> yossarianuk: that is what cross platform is
[17:15] <Whiskey`Wonka> (connecting to windows from linux mostly in my case)
[17:16] <lordievader> Whiskey`Wonka: What client are you using and what protocol?
[17:16] <genii> Might want to install multiarch-support package, then do additionally: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[17:16] <yossarianuk> Whiskey`Wonka: sudo apt-get install libasound2:i386
[17:16] <Whiskey`Wonka> lordievader: was using teamviewer
[17:16] <yossarianuk> try that
[17:16] <genii> yossarianuk: This assumes they have multiarch already enabled :)
[17:17] <lordievader> Whiskey`Wonka: Why not rdp or vnc?
[17:17] <yossarianuk> if you are running 13.10 you have ?
[17:17] <genii> yossarianuk: Not if they upgraded from a version that didn't
[17:17] <Whiskey`Wonka> lordievader: end users, i would LOVE something simple like VNC
[17:40] <cubbybear> Hi all I just did a new install of 13.10 in the process I messed up my kmail import. I would like to start over with a clean kmail, but have been unable to delete every thing need to start over. Can someone tell me whaat I need to delete to get a clean kmail?
[18:25] <wxl> shoot i can't remember how to disable ipv6 in rekonq. anyone?
[18:28] <ricky_> :D
[18:43] <readyjar> Anyway to get the Unity login screen?
[18:43] <lordievader> readyjar: This is #kubuntu, you probably want #ubuntu.
[18:45] <readyjar> lordievader: Well, I have kubuntu installed on top of a stock Ubuntu install. The differences are weird. I thought kubuntu was just ubuntu with KDE instead of Unity. Not sure how that warrants itself a new distro...
[18:45] <genii> readyjar: I already answered your cross-post in #ubuntu
[19:28] <RageSith> good evening ... can anyone help me to get my microphone jack to work with my headset? i have a notebook with a builtin webcam and all i can use as mic is the webcams mic
[19:29] <RageSith> my lspic output: http://pastebin.kde.org/p93d5zuea
[19:31] <Avihay> RageSith: you should probably download the pavucontrol package, it'll let you see what's pulse audio is doing, mabe automatic jack switching doesn't work for your setup, and you can manually change it with that
[19:32] <RageSith> already downloaded it but well i dont know how to setup in there
[19:32] <RageSith> could you guide me a bit?
[19:33] <Avihay> you'll want to first have a look at the input devices tab
[19:33] <Avihay> you'll get live feedback there, and also an option to select the audio input for each device
[19:34] <RageSith> input device tab is empty
[19:34] <Avihay> well, your device might be in half duplex mode, switch to the configuration tab
[19:35] <RageSith> done
[19:35] <Avihay> you should have atleast one device there, probably labled Built in audo
[19:35] <RageSith> there are two cards and two select fields
[19:35] <Avihay> audio*
[19:35] <RageSith> first ist Digital Stereo (HDMI)
[19:35] <Avihay> one of them represents the camera and one the internal card?
[19:35] <RageSith> the other is internel audio
[19:36] <Avihay> what profile is internal audio on?
[19:36] <RageSith> analog stereo output
[19:36] <Avihay> ya, change that to Analog Stereo Duplex
[19:36] <RageSith> done
[19:36] <Avihay> now switch back to the input device tab
[19:37] <Avihay> make some noise
[19:37] <RageSith> none of the 3 ports react to noisse
[19:37] <Avihay> turn up the volume/gain?
[19:38] <Avihay> wait, I bet you just need to restart pavucontrol, cause I don't see any feedback either
[19:38] <lordievader> RageSith: What are the port options?
[19:38] <Avihay> ya, solved it for me
[19:39] <RageSith> options are Internal Microphone, Microphone and Linein
[19:39] <Avihay> does it work after closeing and opening the program again?
[19:40] <RageSith> yes but only on internal
[19:41] <Avihay> do you have your microphone plugged in properly?
[19:41] <RageSith> but the bar freezes after a few secs
[19:41] <RageSith> yea i do
[19:41] <Avihay> are you cirten it's not plugged to the line in by accident?
[19:41] <Avihay> certain
[19:41] <RageSith> its a laptop with two jacks
[19:41] <RageSith> one for headphones and one for mic
[19:42] <RageSith> and yeah im sure
[19:42] <Avihay> I see. try turning the volume on the mic and line in up to 11? or try recording even though you don't see a feedback?
[19:44] <RageSith> okay when i start teamspeak in testspeaking mode
[19:44] <Avihay> also, there's a chance that this mic and headset are on the HDMI device, and you need to change that to full duplex or x.1 + audio input for x in [2,4,5]
[19:44] <RageSith> using ALSA -> HDA Intel PCH
[19:44] <RageSith> then its only the webcam mic which records
[19:44] <Avihay> change the profile under the config tab*
[19:45] <RageSith> to?
 also, there's a chance that this mic and headset are on the HDMI device, and you need to change that to full duplex or x.1 + audio input for x in [2,4,5]
[19:46] <Avihay> I mean either Duplex, or something + input
[19:47] <RageSith> HDMI Device gives options Digital Steroe (HDMI) output, digital surroud 5.1 (HDMI) output and off
[19:47] <Avihay> so no input :-<
[19:47] <RageSith> :/
[19:48] <Avihay> well, it might be that one of them exposes a recording device, try each to see if you get anotehr recording device back in the other tab. other then that, googeling your specific make
[19:48] <Avihay> of soundcard
[19:49] <RageSith> if it give more infos i usaly set it up with alsamixer
[19:50] <RageSith> Avihay: i googled about it now over 2 hours but its a special notbook with special soundcard output devices :/ for instance i have speaker and subwoofer build in
[19:50] <RageSith> to get subwoofer turned on or off i need to use alsamixer
[19:50] <Avihay> maybe you'd want to switch back to alsa then?
[19:51] <Avihay> or ask in #pulse or #pulseaudio
[19:51] <Avihay> probaby the latter
[19:51] <RageSith> well how to switch to alsa?
[19:51] <Avihay> I, umm, don't know, it involves removeing and adding some packages
[19:52] <RageSith> found a guide let me check
[19:52] <RageSith> thanks for y help
[19:53] <Avihay> goodluck
[19:59] <tunder> szép estét
[20:01] <genii> !hu
[20:02] <tunder> Na frissül a rendszer :)
[20:04] <tunder> nagy a csend..
[20:08] <eagles0513875> hey everyone for some reason my trackpad isnt working on my netbook. it seems like in the syslog that it knows bout the track pad and knows what kind of track pad it is but for some reason its not working
[20:09] <eagles0513875> and for me im seeing alot of other stuff which is horrendously broken.
[20:33] <eagles0513875> hey guys i am having all sorts of annoying issues with 13.10 anyone able to help me please
[20:34] <eagles0513875> i have issues where i cant modify users groups from system settings to trackpad not working and network manager not showing that im connected to a network it constantly shows like im disconnected when i know im not
[20:52] <jalcine> As far as I know, removing pulseaudio would make KMix use Alsa instead
[21:11] <eagles0513875> hey jalcineany ideas as to my issues?
[21:13] <jalcine> is synaptiks installed/running?
[21:14] <jalcine> eagles0513875: ^
[21:14] <eagles0513875> odd
[21:14] <jalcine> as for plasma-nm, that's a whole new world
[21:14] <eagles0513875> synaptic isnt installed O_o yet syslog shows it in the sense it picks up the hardware
[21:14] <eagles0513875> jalcine: what about the users section in system settings i cant even edit a users groups etc
[21:15] <jalcine> that's a unix thing imho
[21:15] <jalcine> the user/groups thing
[21:16] <jalcine> I thought it to be common practice to login/logout after changing user groups
[21:16] <eagles0513875> you used to be able to manage that through system settings
[21:16] <eagles0513875> and now you cant any more
[21:16] <jalcine> probably a TODO
[21:16] <jalcine> report it as a wish (if it doesn't exist)
[21:16] <eagles0513875> seriously though that is a regression if anything
[21:21] <chachan> guys, any idea which DE SteamOS is going to choose?
[21:23] <jalcine> chachan: -offtopic ;)
[21:23] <chachan> jalcine, :( ok :)
[22:23] <LeeJunFan> The new network plasmoid is kind of a turd. Had to work somewhere today where I was switching between networks a lot and it continually didn't show network lists for me to configure correctly w/o first collapsing and expanding sections and/or removing and re-plugging the cable.
[22:24] <Asian> What is this?
[22:31] <Enkidu_ak> Hi. I've recently completed a dist upgrade to 13.10 and have noticed that Muon is no longer displaying available updates. It shows that I have updates available and allows me to apply them, but I cannot see the details of the individual updates. So far I have not been able to find an option in the muon config to change this behavior, Are any of you able to assist me with this?
[22:42] <Asian> Hello http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkmeoYKYctw olleH
[23:52] <[trip]> I upgraded to 13.10 and I'm getting the occasional kernel panic. Suggestions on the best tools to record the panic and where to submit said recorded logs?


[12:54] <winbond> does anyone know if the latest fglrx can be installed in gutsy?
[01:05] <winbond> !fglrx
[01:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:06] <burner> anyone play with ebox?  i'm curious how hard it is to setup
[01:14] <DanaG> How do you find out what app is bound to a particular port, and kill that app?
[01:15] <Pici> netstat
[01:16] <bur[n] er> then killall when you know the executable name
[01:16] <crimsun> or lsof or fuser
[01:17] <crimsun> sudo netstat -np
[01:17] <DanaG> Aah, thanks.
[01:34] <sparr> bur[n] er: wtf @ killall
[01:34] <sparr> that will kill many apps, not just the one on that port
[01:34] <Pici> sparr: killall does not work without an argument.
[01:35] <sparr> yes, and said argument wont be the program specifically using the port
[01:35] <Pici> Well, it'll be one of the programs, or the one if only one instance is running.  I understand where you are coming from though.
[01:40] <DanaG> Just be warned: the Solaris killall is totally different.
[01:41] <DanaG> That really is "kill everything".
[01:41] <timing> Hey is it a known bug that the gnome is only starting till the background only and then nothing?
[01:42] <timing> I have to run startx by hand everytime i boot up
[01:42] <timing> then it loads normal
[01:42] <timing> but when i boot without startx, i can still login with gdm, but after that it's just nothing
[01:44] <bur[n] er> timing: works here
[01:44] <timing> After one month i'm thinking about filing a bugreport
[01:44] <timing> okay
[01:44] <bur[n] er> timing: might be something in your profile
[01:44] <bur[n] er> ~/. files... try as another user?
[01:44] <timing> ah, i don't have another user yet hehe
[01:44] <DanaG> I think compiz somehow breaks login.
[01:44] <bur[n] er> make one and try :)
[01:44] <timing> yeah it could be compiz
[01:44] <DanaG> It'll take 2 to 4 times of trying to log on.
[01:45] <bur[n] er> you could switch to metacity :)
[01:45] <timing> DanaG: yep
[01:45] <DanaG> I'll hear my gnubiff applet make the "new mail" sound, but I see nothing.
[01:45] <timing> yeah where do i disable compiz, the tray icon s gone for a month as well
[01:45] <DanaG> Oh, and killing compiz locks up the X server, except for the mouse.
[01:45] <timing> or can i get this new compiz thing already?
[01:45] <timing> codenamed compcomm
[01:46] <bur[n] er> it's compiz fusion now
[01:46] <bur[n] er> compcomm is old already ;)
[01:46] <timing> ah
[01:46] <bur[n] er> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[01:46] <timing> k thanks
[01:47] <timing> blech 3th party sources
[01:47] <timing> I'll wait till it's in gutsy
[01:47] <timing> and compiz fusion is just a bunch of beryl plugins?
[01:48] <timing> my compiz is working tho
[01:48] <timing> only with one workspace
[01:48] <timing> but i have four in my gnome-panel
[01:48] <bur[n] er> so change it to 4 or so :)
[01:48] <bur[n] er> it's in gutsy now
[01:48] <timing> ah okay
[01:49] <bur[n] er> compiz-fusion-plugins-extra - Collection of extra plugins from OpenCompositing for Compiz
[01:49] <timing> but i think metacity is running and compiz as well
[01:49] <bur[n] er> only one can be running
[01:49] <timing> well
[01:49] <timing> there is like one big workspace when running compiz right?
[01:49] <timing> but it's four screens wide
[01:50] <bur[n] er> sure
[01:50] <timing> so then your workspace switcher applet looks like one big screen
[01:50] <bur[n] er> i thought that was fixed with fusion
[01:50] <timing> yeah i have a cube as well
[01:50] <timing> but do you have the workspace applet in your bar?
[01:50] <bur[n] er> nope
[01:50] <bur[n] er> one sec
[01:51] <timing> k
[01:51] <Pici> Eh?
[01:51] <bur[n] er> yeah, the workspace switcher applet works with compiz fusion
[01:51] <timing> yeah
[01:51] <timing> and is it divided in 4 squares?
[01:52] <timing> or 5
[01:52] <timing> or 3
[01:52] <bur[n] er> 4
[01:52] <timing> depening on your number of desks
[01:52] <timing> hmm
[01:52] <timing> a month ago there was one big one of the size of four
[01:52] <timing> like compiz told the applet it was one big workspace
[01:52] <bur[n] er> well, all better now :)
[01:52] <timing> yeah
[01:52] <timing> but the thing is
[01:52] <timing> when i click on workspace 2
[01:52] <timing> there is only my background image there
[01:53] <timing> panels are gone
[01:53] <timing> keycombo's are gone
[01:53] <timing> i'm not sure anymore about right mouse click
[01:53] <bur[n] er> wow, all that stuff works here
[01:53] <timing> hmm
[01:53] <timing> so someone feels like hunting this thing?
[01:53] <bur[n] er> upgrade to fusion
[01:53] <bur[n] er> :)
[01:54] <timing> yeah guess so
[01:54] <timing> it's upgrading to latest now
[01:54] <timing> so will try in a few
[01:54] <timing> so is there anything hot and new i should really try out as well?
[01:55] <burner> cube reflection, writing wtih fire, the window+e command
[01:56] <timing> what;s window+e?
[01:56] <timing> i think i read something about it?
[01:56] <timing> and uhm, something _next_ to compiz?
[02:00] <DanaG> mysql-admin: symbol lookup error: mysql-admin: undefined symbol: _ZN4Glib9ValueBase4initEj
[02:00] <DanaG> argh.
[02:01] <Pici> DanaG: I think the bug is already logged if I remember correctly. I had the same problem
[02:04] <burner> timing: window+e is hte expo plugin
[02:08] <cRhYlove> I set mine up to be window+`.
[02:08] <cRhYlove> Much easier to reach. :D
[02:09] <timing> huh and more updates just yet?
[02:10] <burner> if you have an intel card, your videos may not work
[02:47] <crackerbox> hey guys
[02:50] <cRhYlove> I'm having a hard time sharing stuff over my windows network.
[02:51] <cRhYlove> It's trying to make me log in?
[02:51] <cRhYlove> The windows network doesn't HAVE a login though. :/
[02:51] <timing> cRhYlove: maybe you are in the wrong workgroup? dunno if that could be it tho
[02:52] <cRhYlove> no, it's the right workgroup.
[03:05] <chowmeined> cRhYlove: make sure the shared folder has permissions for 'EVERYONE'
[03:06] <chowmeined> cRhYlove: in both the sharing permissions and security tabs
[03:14] <timing> hmm it's time for 'enqueue in totem' as right mouse option in nautilus
[03:14] <chowmeined> totem?
[03:15] <chowmeined> but totem is just really a quick media player
[03:15] <timing> yeah
[03:15] <chowmeined> you can hover over music to play it
[03:15] <timing> yeh
[03:15] <timing> but i'm listening to an album
[03:15] <timing> and was at the last song
[03:15] <timing> but i wanted to hear the ending
[03:15] <chowmeined> what about using a music player?
[03:15] <timing> and add this other album to the list
[03:16] <timing> most of the time i listen with my iAudio
[03:16] <chowmeined> i mean something like rhythmbox or amarok?
[03:17] <timing> yeah
[03:17] <timing> but i just don't feel like this music indexing
[03:17] <cRhYlove> it keeps asking me to login to get on the network.
[03:17] <timing> i like it on my mp3player :-)
[03:17] <timing> chowmeined: i just downloaded 5 new albums
[03:18] <timing> checking it out, ate once
[03:18] <chowmeined> cRhYlove: on which machine?
[03:18] <timing> From Goldfrapp and Venus Hum if anyone is interested :-)
[03:18] <cRhYlove> my gutsy machine.
[03:19] <chowmeined> cRhYlove: did you add 'EVERYONE' permissions to the shared folder?
[03:19] <cRhYlove> So I can't see the drives on the other machines.
[03:19] <cRhYlove> yep.
[03:19] <cRhYlove> But I also need to see the drives on OTHER machines from this one.
[03:21] <DanaG> Argh, the syslog view of tomcat is worse than useless.
[03:21] <DanaG> It squishes the stack trace onto one line, with a bunch of ^I in it.
[03:22] <cRhYlove> Nope, my shared drives are still invisible on the network too.
[03:22] <cRhYlove> :(
[03:23] <timing> hey does someone know how i can open a torrent file with epiphany like this: gnome-terminal -e `screen btdownloadcurses --url %s`
[03:47] <chowmeined> will deluge be in the repos in gutsy?
[03:48] <pawan> hi
[03:48] <pawan> how to manually connect to broadband
[03:48] <pawan> can roboform be used with ubuntu
[03:51] <crdlb> !info deluge gutsy
[03:51] <ubotu> Package deluge does not exist in gutsy
[03:51] <crdlb> !info deluge-torrent gutsy
[03:51] <ubotu> deluge-torrent: A Bittorrent client written in Python/PyGTK. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1292 kB, installed size 4344 kB
[03:53] <chowmeined> excellent
[04:17] <vlowther> arrgh
[04:17] <vlowther> reinstall for teh suck
[04:17] <vlowther> xhs decided to start random;ly truncating files on the root fs during updates
[04:18] <vlowther> er, xfs.
[04:40] <xtknight> will grandparadiso become the default for gutsy?
[04:40] <xtknight> firefox gran paradiso*
[04:52] <RAOF> I highly doubt it.
[05:24] <DanaG> Will there at least be a granparadiso package that we can use to REPLACE firefox?
[05:24] <DanaG> I don't want to acidentally run the old one once I have installed the new one.
[05:25] <Hobbsee> use a dpkg-divert
[05:25] <Hobbsee> check out w.u.c/FirefoxNewVersion on how to use them, and appropriate the example there
[05:26] <DanaG> w.u.c?
[05:26] <DanaG> Oh, wiki.
[05:27] <DanaG> Have they at least fixed the "asian characters lock up the browser" bug?
[05:27] <DanaG> I'd imagine so, but I haven't been keeping up with Mozilla's changelogs.
[05:38] <Min1123> Anyone running Gutsy on X64 architecture have problems with the Human themes and program crashes?
[05:40] <RAOF> Yes, I'm running x86-64.  No, I don't have any problems.
[05:40] <RAOF> Well, any _systemic_ problems, at least :)
[05:41] <Min1123> On my systems on both fresh installs and upgrade installs all programs relying on GTK+ die, and people seem to blame it on the new glibc warning messages, but I think it is caused by the default progress bar on Human.
[05:42] <RAOF> Min1123: Well, you're correct in that the glib warning has nothing to do with it.
[05:43] <Min1123> I don't really have enough data to get debug on it since it segfaults really fast whenever it comes up.  Keeps Gimp, Firefox, Thunderbird, and some of the pyGTK stuff from working, but switching the progress bar animation from the default Human theme seems to remove the issue entirely.
[05:43] <Min1123> Any ideas on further isolating it?
[05:43] <RAOF> Hm.  That seems pretty good.
[05:43] <RAOF> I'll try the human theme.
[05:45] <RAOF> Well, I can't reproduce.  Do you get any apport backtraces?
[05:47] <Min1123> Yeah, and I submitted them.  It seemed to point to the glibc library, but that can't be the culprit.  Let me go test again.
[05:48] <RAOF> Yeah, it's not glibc.  Got any bug numbers handy?
[05:49] <Min1123> Not on hand.  I actually forgot what the website is.
[05:49] <RAOF> launchpad.net?
[05:49] <Min1123> I can get a GIMP stack trace, but I need to go put in the debug packages.
[05:51] <DanaG> Dang, dpkg-divert: `diversion of /usr/bin/firefox-granparadiso to /usr/bin/firefox by firefox-granparadiso' clashes with `diversion of /usr/bin/firefox to /usr/bin/firefox2 by firefox-granparadiso'
[05:51] <RAOF> Well, if you can crash it repeatedly, installing all the dbgsym packages would be good :)
[05:51] <DanaG> I wonder what it does if you leave out the "rename".
[05:53] <DanaG> Oh, it copies.
[05:54] <Min1123> This is what firefox crashes on 0x00002b48074825d3 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2
[05:56] <Min1123> I read a few bugs that said some of the earlier Human themes had Cairo issues, no knowledge on that.
[05:56] <RAOF> I'd need a little more context than that to help :)
[05:56] <Min1123> Bug #61303, but it's from 2006-09-19
[05:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 61303 in libcairo "gtk apps segfault on gnome 'Human' theme, only from XDMCP" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/61303
[05:56] <Min1123> Yeah.
[05:56] <Min1123> But that's Dapper too.
[05:57] <DanaG> Okay, I went right back to the official.
[05:57] <DanaG> I mean, back to 2.0.whatever.
[05:58] <DanaG> 3.something breaks ctrl-l, ctrl-f12, and a whole bunch of other things.
[05:59] <Min1123> 0x00002b48041b2fad in raise () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
[05:59] <Min1123> That's what it actually segfaults on, so I'm speculating that it's trying to alter the thread priority through the Cairo library, but that's beyond my scope.
[06:02] <RAOF> Hm.  If you could install all the -dbgsym packages you can think of, you could attach the apport crash file to one of your bugs - that'd be helpful.
[06:02] <RAOF> Just to confirm, are you trying to run X in 8bit colour?
[06:04] <Min1123> Yeah, I will, it's just that apport doesn't pick up the bugs.
[06:05] <RAOF> You can check /var/crash.  There should be files in there.
[06:06] <Min1123> These programs like to say that I don't have enough free memory to debug on a 2GB RAM machine with another 4GB of swap partition.
[06:06] <Min1123> I am running in 24-bit color.
[06:08] <RAOF> So it's not that bug that you linked.
[06:09] <Min1123> I haven't found a duplicate yet, unless you count all the bugs that seemed to be glibc.
[06:09] <Min1123> I think this could be related to a number of those since the apps that don't work in those reports are the same ones.
[06:12] <Min1123> Any idea what the libcairo dbg is?  I'm not finding it so I have "??" in the traces.
[06:13] <Amaranth> Min1123: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[06:14] <Min1123> Thanks.
[06:18] <pawan> how to install realtek drivers for ubuntu
[06:19] <Min1123> Is there an auth for the dbgsym?
[06:20] <Min1123> @pawan Which Realtek device?  Most have drivers already in the kernel or supplied modules.
[06:21] <pawan> ac97
[06:21] <pawan> icant get the sound icon which i get in windows
[06:21] <Min1123> The audio drivers for that should already be in the version you have.
[06:21] <pawan> the surround sound preset and eqilizer
[06:21] <pawan> and good mp3 burning software
[06:22] <Min1123> Under system and preferences there is a section called Sound.
[06:22] <pawan> yes
[06:23] <Min1123> That should be everything you need to set that up, the mixer is default in the upper left of the screen in the top panel.
[06:23] <Min1123> If you have volume control on the keyboard it is probably active as well.
[06:24] <Min1123> MP3 burning meaning burning MP3s to a redbook audio CD?
[06:24] <pawan> i want to burn mp3 files to cd
[06:25] <Min1123> Just insert the CD into a burner and it will ask if you want to make an audio or a data CD.
[06:25] <Min1123> Select audio.
[06:25] <Toxicity999> well if you want to burn the fiels as data
[06:25] <Min1123> It will open a program to help you do that.
[06:25] <Toxicity999> and not make a real audio cd
[06:26] <Dannilionz> I need some help with internet connection sharing
[06:26] <pawan> ok
[06:27] <Dannilionz> basically, I have an internet connection on this PC which is ppp0. I want to share this so I can access the internet from my laptop at the same time. Only problem is, as soon as I bring the network up on this machine I lose the internet
[06:27] <Dannilionz> I think the problem is in my routing table, but I don't know how to fix it
[06:28] <Dannilionz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30745/ - output of route. I think I need to remove this line:
[06:28] <pawan> it is saying disk capacity exceeded
[06:28] <RAOF> Dannilionz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing?highlight=%28internet%29
[06:29] <pawan> i am burning mp3 files
[06:29] <Dannilionz> thanks, will try that
[06:30] <pawan> any good specific mp3 burning software
[06:30] <RAOF> What are you trying to do again?  To burn mp3s to an audio cd that any CD player can play?
[06:31] <pawan> to play in an mp3 player
[06:31] <pawan> and mp3 cd
[06:31] <RAOF> Also, since this doesn't appear to be a Gutsy question, you may have more luck in #ubuntu, where there are many more people.
[06:32] <DanaG> Is there a way to connect multiple times to the same AP using nm-applet?
[06:32] <DanaG> I know I can do it manually, but I want to do it with NetworkManager.
[06:32] <RAOF> DanaG: Probably not.  How would you do that anyway?
[06:33] <DanaG> Have multiple WiFi cards.  I have built-in ipw3945/iwl3945, and a cardbus bcm43xx.
[06:33] <marek`> yeah d00d there is for sure a way
[06:33] <DanaG> I haven't actually seen any major issues using this bcm4306 card with the native module.
[06:33] <DanaG> Er, swap "haven't" and "actually".
[06:33] <Min1123> I'm using a bcm4311 with the native module now too.
[06:34] <DanaG> Oh, one nice thing about Vista: it'll come with Broadcom drivers.
[06:34] <DanaG> So you won't have to tell people to go and download them.
[06:34] <DanaG> I mean, for fwcutter.
[06:35] <RAOF> DanaG: NM doesn't currently support more than one active device IIRC, so I'm thinking you'll need to do it manually.
[06:36] <Min1123> Well, Dell is involved now, so hopefully either bcm will become more compliant or become less used.
[06:38] <DanaG> Odd: Sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by bcm43xx-fwcutter.  This file has an unknown MD5sum cf6a67c90951e3e763d2135dede44b85.
[06:39] <DanaG> I guess the Vista in-the-box drivers aren't fw-cuttable.
[06:41] <DanaG> Oh, I see: the inf files have a bunch of bogus characters.
[06:41] <DanaG> ^@[^@v^@e^@r^@s^@i^@o^@n^@] ^@^M^@
[06:41] <RAOF> Hooray for rsync and my 33Mb/sec updating of the daily server cd
[06:41] <DanaG> 33 megabits?  Where?
[06:41] <DanaG> I'm stuck with 3 megabits.
[06:42] <DanaG> But when I have anything reeally big to download, I can go on campus, with GbE to the internet.
[06:42] <Toma-> !info librsvg2-2
[06:42] <ubotu> librsvg2-2: SAX-based renderer library for SVG files (runtime). In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-2 (gutsy), package size 127 kB, installed size 296 kB
[06:42] <RAOF> With rsync.  The actual average download speed was 400Kb/sec, but I needed 8 times less than the full CD :)
[06:43] <Min1123> Most of the newer firmwares don't work with it.
[06:45] <DanaG> Well, Vista also does odd stuff with network drivers, as I discovered from reading the ndiswrapper site.
[06:45] <DanaG> It has a new version of the ndis standard.
[06:45] <DanaG> In addition, the INF files are padded with junk, it seems, and perhaps the same with SYS files.
[06:45] <DanaG> This bcm4306 seems stable enough to me.
[06:46] <DanaG> And the same with iwl3945.
[06:46] <Min1123> ndiswrapper has been unstable lately.
[06:47] <Min1123> And since it plays closely with the kernel, it locks up one of my cores randomly, so I'm happy to use the native one, although it is sometimes slower.
[06:49] <DanaG> One thing I like about my Gateway laptop: simplicity.  No proprietary ACPI modules, no software radio toggle (just hardware, instead), ipw3945 wifi, e1000 GbE.
[06:50] <DanaG> Oh, and a competent EDID, so you get the right resolution with nvidia -- unlike some (older, at least) Toshibas.
[07:08] <Min1123> @RAOF Now listed as Bug #127493
[07:16] <flodine> how is gutsy running? anyone
[07:17] <BirthdayHobbsee> it runs, most of the time.
[07:17] <Min1123> Still some glitches, but most of it runs well.
[07:17] <flodine> cool
[07:18] <Min1123> If it doesn't I suggest changing the theme.
[07:19] <flodine> will this be a LTS version
[07:19] <stdin> flodine: no, gutsy+1 will be
[07:19] <SeveredCross> Runs well for me, though the themes are a bit fugly.
[07:20] <SeveredCross> At least they seem to be.
[07:20] <SeveredCross> The glossy theme could be nice if it didn't make all the bloody windows blue.
[07:20] <SeveredCross> Hmmm.
[07:20] <SeveredCross> You know what GNOME is missing.
[07:20] <SeveredCross> A mountpoint manager.
[07:22] <Min1123> I suppose gparted doesn't really count.
[07:41] <chowmeined> SeveredCross: /etc/fstab
[07:42] <SeveredCross> Haha, funny.
[07:42] <SeveredCross> You think a Windows convert wants to edit /etc/fstab?
[07:42] <chowmeined> i dont think windows converts need a 'mountpoint manager'
[07:43] <SeveredCross> Maybe not title it that, but something to help them mount drives.
[07:43] <chowmeined> i seriously doubt windows converts will be creating new partitions after installation
[07:43] <chowmeined> automount takes care of CDs and thumb drives
[07:43] <SeveredCross> Something to help them mount their Windows drive, storage partitions, etc.
[07:43] <chowmeined> and external hard drives
[07:43] <elkbuntu> gyah. does firefox not have session restore on gutsy anymore?!
[07:43] <chowmeined> SeveredCross: but they already are mounted under /media
[07:44] <SeveredCross> Are they mounted by default if they don't touch partitioning?
[07:44] <chowmeined> er
[07:44] <chowmeined> no they show up in nautilus
[07:44] <chowmeined> and under Places > Computer
[07:44] <SeveredCross> Uh, I thought things only showed up there when mounted on mountpoints in /media/
[07:45] <chowmeined> i forgot about my windows partition hehe
[07:45] <chowmeined> its under Places > Computer.. but its not mounted.. and its not in /media
[07:46] <SeveredCross> Hmm. Weird.
[07:46] <SeveredCross> I could've sworn only things that were mounted went there. My mistake.
[07:46] <SeveredCross> I still think something to easily edit the options in /etc/fstab would be nice, but I suppose it isn't essential.
[08:31] <wsjunior> hello. i'm using kubuntu gutsy tribe 3 up to date here and I've just installed fglrx driver 8.39.4 that works with kernel 2.22, its everything ok inside X but I'm not able to switch to console (control+alt+f1)
[08:31] <wsjunior> I get a black screen
[08:32] <wsjunior> When I switch to console
[09:08] <pawan> hi
[09:40] <eagles0513875> !e2fsck
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about e2fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <eagles0513875> !fsck
[09:41] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[09:57] <jl> helllo
[09:57] <jl> tribe3 is giving me a beating
[09:57] <jl> can't get 1280x1024 rez working - i've editing my xorg.conf to add it
[09:57] <jl> still dont even see the option in configure desktop :(
[10:02] <jl> tribe 3 users here?
[10:02] <RAOF> Gutsy users here :)
[10:02] <jl> im using fresh install of kubuntu tribe3 ;( ....seems like a lot of stupid problems
[10:03] <jl> ie, gutsy - 2 day old release
[10:03] <jl> i have a weird menu :(
[10:03] <RAOF> Well, time to file some bugs!
[10:04] <jl> most entries start with   ___: Entries in Kmenu:
[10:05] <jl> and i can't get 1280x1024 rez working - even tho i have added it in quotes to my xorg.conf - and restarted X using alt-ctrl-backspace :(  what am i missing??
[10:05] <RAOF> jl: Pastebin Xorg.0.log, and I'll have a look
[10:08] <jl> http://pastebin.ca/629407
[10:09] <jl> the only thing i did after a fresh install - was sudo apt-get update - then installed the kubuntu-restricted
[10:10] <RAOF> Oh.  You're using the vesa driver.  That's not going to work well :)
[10:11] <jl> sudo apt-get install nvidia?
[10:12] <jl> or what?
[10:14] <jl> hello?
[10:15] <RAOF> jl: Sorry.  You might have better luck summoning me with my name :)
[10:15] <RAOF> jl: Well, that depends on what graphics card you have, obviously :)
[10:15] <jl> :) lol i figured smart kubuntu users might have an attention span longer then a gnat ;)
[10:16] <jl> 7600 geforce
[10:17] <jl> in deb i used the new 100.14 drivers - but i dont see those as an option :((
[10:17] <RAOF> Yes; you want to install nvidia-glx-new, and then run "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[10:17] <RAOF> jl: Indeed.  The 100 series drivers aren't packaged yet.
[10:17] <jl> i was running deb sid :) the 100's worked wonders :)
[10:18] <jussi01> la de da.. apt is broken...
[10:18] <jl> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[10:18] <jl> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[10:19] <jl> after running sudo nvidia-xconfig :((
[10:19] <jussi01> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[10:19] <jussi01> anyone seen that one beore? how do i fix?
[10:19] <jl> jussi01 - you're on tribe 3 also?
[10:20] <jussi01> jl: tribe 2 plus updates... so yes
[10:20] <jl> well - i don't know if updating tribe2 will = tribe3;) ... unless you specifically did the latest kde4 alpha2
[10:20] <jussi01> jl: oh, really?
[10:21] <jussi01> tribe 3 has kde 4??????
[10:21] <RAOF> No.
[10:21] <jl> i know tribe 3 does kde4alpha2  :)
[10:21] <jl> not as default - but its there
[10:21] <RAOF> Yes.  Parallel installable
[10:22] <jussi01> oh...well whatever, I just need to fix my apt....
[10:23] <jl> RAOF - btw where would i see that?
[10:23] <jl> the kde4?
[10:30] <jl> so - any other geforce 7600 (or 7k series) users out there? - did u have problems geting higher then 1024x rez working???
[10:31] <RAOF> jl: Well, my 7600 works just fine.  I'm not sure why xconfig dumped core :(
[10:32] <jl> i'm runing apt-get upgrade now - maybe something will get fixed
[10:32] <RAOF> You could try a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to select the nvidia driver
[10:32] <jl> gcc 4.2.1 is out eh? - cool stuff
[10:32] <jl> cool i'll try that RAOF thx
[10:35] <jl> is anyone using kde4 alpha2 from the new tribe 3 btw?
[10:36] <jl> RAOF - what rez do you use?
[10:39] <RAOF> 1650x1040
[10:39] <jl> k, cool - did you have to edit your xorg.conf?
[10:39] <RAOF> No.
[10:40] <RAOF> Then again, nvidia-xconfig didn't segfault for me :)
[10:40] <jl> curse those segfaults
[10:44] <jl> raof
[10:45] <jl> i'm running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --- but it only give a list of options - including 'nv' - but nothing 'nvidia-glx-new' etc....
[10:46] <RAOF> There should be a "nvidia" option.
[10:46] <RAOF> If you've installed the nvidia-glx-new package.
[10:58] <stdin> anyone else loose the ability to use media keys, like play/pause on there keyboard?
[11:22] <jussi01> ok, heres the thing, I launch the program from terminal (tremulous) it works fine, but i created a launcher and it freezes from the first screen. any idea whats going wrong?
[11:49] <mike_> Greets, everyone...
[11:49] <mike_> Has anyone had any luck with getting bcm43xx-fwcutter to work under Gutsy? It keeps giving me an MD5sum mismatch when it tries to process the firmware file.
[12:01] <milk_> hello
[12:05] <milk_> anyone known how to install vmware server (last build on vmware.com) under gutsy (uptodate, kernel 2.6.22 personnal build) ?
[12:05] <chowmeined> you need to download a patch vmware-any-any google for it
[12:07] <milk_> the last patch can i give is the vmware-any-any-update109.tar.gz (get by link on ubuntu forum) and not working (i've get the same error with or without)
[12:10] <chowmeined> search the ftp site
[12:10] <chowmeined> the newest is 110
[12:34] <pawan> how to download new screensaver for ubuntu
[12:35] <pawan> hi
[12:37] <milk_> i got the vmware-any-any-update111.tar.gz with the last build of vmware server and always not working !
[12:37] <chowmeined> pawan: gnome-look.org
[01:03] <milk_> i found the solution: downgrade to vmware server 1.0.2 and use the vmware-any-any-update111.tgz
[01:03] <milk_> the vmware server 1.0.3 with vmware-any 111 not working at this moment
[01:36] <timing> so with this compiz fusion, i only need compiz-core?
[01:36] <timing> nothing else?
[01:38] <pawan> how to change broadband connection name
[01:43] <amayera> hi
[01:53] <pawan> how to know version of ubuntu
[01:54] <amayera> pawan: cat /etc/issue
[01:55] <[swb] > hello all
[01:55] <[swb] > hi unix4me :)
[01:55] <unix4me> hi, swb
[01:56] <[swb] > I have thought that ubuntu has been missing this feature for quite a while
[01:56] <[swb] > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117027
[01:56] <[swb] > but found nothing on the internet about it since this date
[01:58] <unix4me> [swb] : I think you'll have more luck in Ubuntu-devel; I think this is support for people who are already using Gutsy :S
[01:58] <unix4me> * #ubuntu-devel
[01:58] <[swb] > unix4me, yeah I figured
[01:58] <[swb] > thx
[01:58] <unix4me> welcome
[03:00] <Zapek> hello. anyone knows what is supposed to start hald? I thought it would be the startup scripts but it doesn't seem to be the case
[03:02] <Zapek> hm. the thing probably just crashes
[03:10] <cRhYlove> Anyone else having networking problems in qemu?
[03:11] <cRhYlove> I'm trying to use the new ReactOS in VM. :D  But I can't connect to any network in qemu for some reason.
[03:11] <cRhYlove> :(
[03:46] <fiveiron> FYI, athlon 2500xp, 768mb ram, nforce chipset blah blah, gutsy installed without a hitch
[03:54] <pawan> how to enable opengl
[04:00] <mrsno__> pawan are you running gutsy 7.10?
[04:00] <pawan> feisty 7.04 ubuntu
[04:00] <mrsno__> please ask in #ubuntu , this is for gutsy (current development version) talk
[04:01] <pawan> ok
[04:01] <mrsno__> i see stefg has already pasted you the link :-) that should get you working
[04:38] <np> you have been found
[04:38] <mrsno> :p
[04:39] <np> btw, am i masked up atm?
[04:39] <mrsno> you are indeed
[04:39] <np> or ip showing
[04:39] <np> wicked
[04:39] <mrsno> you lie, you haven't installed gutsy :<
[06:02] <thompa> intel macbook is working great as long as I remember to disable compiz at reboot
[06:03] <thompa> power history is really great as is network tools
[06:06] <thompa> no setup required on touchpad, in fact it works better than osx in my opinion
[06:06] <thompa> side scrolling works and 3 finger tap
[07:51] <FFForever> when will tribe 2 be out?
[07:53] <crdlb> FFForever, err
[07:54] <FFForever> err is a wonderful time frame...
[07:54] <crdlb> see /topic, Tribe 3 is out
[07:54] <FFForever> ohhh snaps (LMAO!!!)
[07:55] <FFForever> will support for upgrades (from other ubuntu distro's be supported)
[07:55] <FFForever> i just upgraded my kubuntu to just ubuntu and it didn't pick up the kubuntu for the settings transfer...... but it found the windows.......
[07:58] <FFForever> one more thing when will ubuntu have cnr???, whit 7.10 or +1?
[07:59] <pvandewyngaerde> cnr ?
[08:00] <FFForever> *spire click N run app
[08:04] <elkbuntu> ooh tasty. networking b0rked on boot. requires restarting the service to work
[08:05] <elkbuntu> actually, it must just have been the one time. worked fine this boot.
[09:12] <b0b> hello
[09:14] <jussi01> hello
[09:24] <MikeRotch> hey guys
[09:24] <MikeRotch> i just got gutsy installed and i am needing help, i wonder where the "restricted modules" is??
[09:24] <MikeRotch> like the ATI driver
[09:24] <SeveredCross> Hmm.
[09:25] <SeveredCross> System --> Administration --> Restricted Driver Manager?
[09:25] <SeveredCross> Is that what you're looking for?
[09:25] <MikeRotch> haha yea usually it is there
[09:25] <SeveredCross> If it's not there, make sure it's installed..
[09:25] <SeveredCross> dpkg -l restricted-manager
[09:25] <SeveredCross> (or use synaptic, I just prefer the CLI)
[09:25] <MikeRotch> sweet
[09:25] <MikeRotch> does that come with XGL now?
[09:25] <MikeRotch> or nah
[09:26] <SeveredCross> Nope.
[09:26] <MikeRotch> mannn
[09:26] <MikeRotch> hha
[09:26] <SeveredCross> ATI is still borked for effects.
[09:26] <SeveredCross> On Feisty it is very doable.
[09:26] <SeveredCross> I got Beryl very stable on Feisty, but since the packages aren't updated for Gutsy yet I don't wanna mess with it.
[09:26] <SeveredCross> I'll wait till Gutsy is released and Beryl gets repackaged.
[09:26] <MikeRotch> yea beryl to me is not as pretty as the compiz i liek to use
[09:26] <SeveredCross> Or till they make the wholesale merge to Compiz.
[09:27] <MikeRotch> i wish it were easier to install xgl
[09:28] <SeveredCross> It is easy...aptitude install xserver-xgl
[09:28] <SeveredCross> :)
[09:28] <SeveredCross> Getting it to work correctly with fglrx is a whole 'nother story.
[09:28] <MikeRotch> hahayea
[09:29] <MikeRotch> well right now i am installing this linux-restricted-modules 2.6.22-8-386
[09:29] <MikeRotch> weee
[09:35] <jussi01> grrrr... i hate compiz fusion in kubuntu gutsy...
[09:35] <jussi01> very buggy atm
[09:36] <MikeRotch> how come gutsy comes with compiz but not xgl
[09:36] <MikeRotch> shoudl compiz work in regular xsession or whatever
[09:36] <crdlb> MikeRotch, not with fglrx
[09:37] <crdlb> but with other video drivers, yes
[09:37] <jussi01> MikeRotch: nice nick. yeas, with nvidia and intel you dont need xgl
[09:37] <MikeRotch> oh, so if i had an nvidia i woudln't have to create xgl session?
[09:37] <MikeRotch> wow...
[09:37] <MikeRotch> that sucks haha
[09:37] <crdlb> what ati card do you have?
[09:37] <pwnguin> well, it uses aiglx i tihnk
[09:37] <pwnguin> think
[09:37] <MikeRotch> x1600
[09:37] <MikeRotch> overclocked edition it's decent
[09:37] <crdlb> then you can't use the free driver
[09:37] <crdlb> so you're stuck with fglrx :/
[09:38] <MikeRotch> cause my stuff is so awesome?
[09:38] <MikeRotch> =P
[09:38] <pwnguin> /ati is so stingy
[09:38] <pwnguin> then again, at least ati has working drivers for some things
[09:38] <MikeRotch> yea i suppose
[09:39] <MikeRotch> well i am installin the ATI restricted driver now
[09:39] <MikeRotch> then i got to restart i think
[09:39] <MikeRotch> so brb in a minute
[10:19] <MikeRotch> cool
[10:19] <MikeRotch> i installed an xgl session now i got everything going
[10:38] <DigitalNinja> Is Gutsy working yet?
[10:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Today's its day off :)
[10:39] <DigitalNinja> lol
[12:09] <DanaG> Argh,
[12:09] <DanaG> (gnome-panel:23402): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to allocate widget with width -5 and height 24
[12:09] <DanaG> But of course, it doesn't tell you WHAT applet!
[12:09] <DanaG> Aargh.
[12:09] <MikeRotch> hey everyone
[12:09] <MikeRotch> i got a problem real quick
[12:10] <MikeRotch> when i click ont he add/remove programs tool it pops up the screen corect size and stuff, but unde the titlebar is grey and stays grey as in it doesn't show my options
[12:10] <MikeRotch> i tried a sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-app-install   command
[12:10] <MikeRotch> and still the same.. any suggestions
[12:15] <MikeRotch> please help =)
[12:20] <jussi01> MikeRotch: check the comand its running, is it running as root?
[12:21] <MikeRotch> jussi01 i don't know how to check sorry
[12:21] <MikeRotch> but it's the add/remove in the applications menu
[12:21] <jussi01> MikeRotch: go to system  and find the menu editor, its there somewhere, i dont rn gnome
[12:23] <MikeRotch> i got one of those but it's just for SHOWING the icon
[12:23] <MikeRotch> i click the icon and the entire add/remove screen is greay it doesn't show the options is my problem =(


[12:04] <sivang> you can also use it for planning your projects developers meetings, specs, bugs, support and what not =)
[12:04] <uriel> ok, thanks, just wanted to make sure :)
[12:38] <vi> hello, i was wondering, does anybody know if the Ubuntu Code of Conduct has been translated into spanish?
[12:41] <sivang> vi: if there someone who'd know that, it's jordi
[12:41] <sivang> vi: try to ping him tommorow or worst case monday
[12:42] <vi> sivang: I was thinking about translating it myself, should I wait and ask him?
[12:43] <sivang> vi: best to email him or ask around rosetta-users
[12:43] <sivang> vi: or ping him when he's here
[12:44] <vi> sivang: ok, i'll do that then, thanks!
[12:45] <sivang> vi: no prob, feel free.
[12:45] <sivang> anywy, time to sleep now, thjere's work tommorow
[12:46] <sivang> good night all!
[05:46] <uriel> hummm.. just me, or registering 'products' is broken? it worked just a few hours ago... weird
[05:48] <uriel> ah, wait, nevermind, the project was registered already, but the error message was most unhelpful.. :/
[06:10] <Burgundavia> uriel, file a bug
[06:10] <uriel> I was doing just that :)
[06:13] <uriel> damn, got an error trying to report the bug!
[06:16] <uriel> so I entered ubuntu, I hope that is OK
[06:16] <Burgundavia> nope, you need to report against upstream launchpad
[06:17] <Burgundavia> what is your bug number?
[06:17] <uriel> one sec..
[06:17] <uriel> #2979
[06:18] <Burgundavia> hmm, stuck in an endless login cycle
[06:20] <uriel> Burgundavia: can one enter 'upstream' in the 'distribution' field when filling a bug then?
[06:21] <Burgundavia> uriel, I just played with your bug report
[06:21] <uriel> ah, sorry, seems I filled it incorrectly..
[06:22] <Burgundavia> np
[06:22] <Burgundavia> you are th second person to make that mistake
[06:22] <Burgundavia> thus leading me to believe that it is a problem thta needs to be addressed
[06:23] <uriel> I went to launchpad.net -> bugs -> File a Bug on a Package -> entered 'launchpad' as package name
[06:23] <uriel> what should have I done instead? :)
[06:23] <Burgundavia> nothing
[06:24] <uriel> ok :)
[06:24] <Burgundavia> there is a difference between a package (ala evolution) and a product (launchpad or upstream evolution)
[06:24] <Burgundavia> the bug reporting makes it hard to see the difference
[06:24] <Burgundavia> and makes it almost impossible to file a bug against a product
[06:25] <uriel> I must admit I find the terminology used in launchpad rather confusing
[06:25] <Burgundavia> it takes a while to wrap your head around it
[06:25] <Burgundavia> it is totally different then any other bug tracker, because it is so ambitious
[06:26] <uriel> and it feels a bit over-engineered, I'm not sure things need to be that complex, but maybe its' just a UI issue
[06:26] <Burgundavia> mostly it is a UI issue
[06:26] <Burgundavia> the fundamental idea is completely sound
[06:26] <uriel> well, I was talking from the POV of the projects, the bug tracker seems simple enough, except for the stuff relating to project/products/releases..
[06:28] <uriel> I guess that in the end it could help interaction between distributions and upstreams, which would be very nice
[06:30] <uriel> I guess it only works if the package is part of ubuntu, no?
[08:12] <sivang> uriel: where did you go to register an upstream product?
[08:36] <uriel> sivang: I already registered the 'product', I was trying to add a package for it
[10:27] <sabdfl> cool
[10:27] <sabdfl> whoever improved my emblem/hackergotchi validation functions, GOOD JOB
[10:32] <sivang> sabdfl: what kind of validation is done there?
[10:33] <sabdfl> image dimensions, and overall file size
[10:33] <sivang> sabdfl: ah nice, is there also any validation against spamming of sorts?
[10:34] <sabdfl> not yet, no
[10:34] <sabdfl> the homepages can contain links
[10:35] <sabdfl> interfaces/validation.py if you have that nda in place
[10:39] <sivang> sabdfl: not yet, I should talk to SteveA  about it see if we can sort it out.
[10:40] <sivang> sabdfl: can I ask you for some feedback on a BOF/spec I've been writing? (invloves distro and launchpad)
[10:45] <zyga> sabdfl: why does clicking on the hackergotchi page brings me on to the login page
[10:45] <zyga> (even though I am logged in)
[11:06] <sabdfl> zyga: shouldn't
[11:06] <sabdfl> zyga: maybe there's a permission problem
[11:07] <sabdfl> zyga: is this your own account?
[11:08] <sivang> sabdfl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupSnapshots, the Workflow is still being worked.
[11:08] <zyga> sabdfl: yes
[11:08] <zyga> sabdfl: people.u.c/zkrynicki
[11:09] <sabdfl> zyga: it's working for me, i just changed my own hackergotchi
[11:09] <sabdfl> but, i have admin permissions
[11:10] <zyga> :-)
[11:10] <zyga> never write programs on root account ;]
[11:10] <sabdfl> sivang: looks good, but potentially complicated. we have plans for a bookmark storage service, which is a start towards this
[11:12] <zyga> sabdfl: what permissions are required to edit hackergotchi?
[11:12] <sabdfl> you should be able to edit your own
[11:12] <ajmitch> evening :)
[11:12] <sabdfl> hey ajmitch
[11:12] <ajmitch> hi sabdfl, how's it going?
[11:12] <sabdfl> zyga: can you edit your home page text?
[11:13] <sabdfl> pretty good. am working on the soyuz web pages
[11:13] <sabdfl>  => the part of launchpad that tracks packages in releases of ubuntu, and derivatives
[11:13] <sabdfl> we will use launchpad to manage Dapper, so it has to be ready soon
[11:13] <ajmitch> yep, I've read through the launchpad wiki, looks good
[11:13] <sivang> sabdfl: I forsee the potential complication, but I was thinkig for dapper to start small, have a predefined set of low importance stuff (like bookmakrs you've just mentioned) that  user have, together with the delta of packages comapred to installed seeds without storing config data. This is half the way there, but might be more feasible to implement.
[11:14] <zyga> sabdfl: yes, I already did some time ago
[11:14] <zyga> sabdfl: ah, one mistake - no people.ubuntu.com for me ;-)
[11:14] <zyga> launchpad.net/people ;-)
[11:14] <sabdfl> sivang: so make this an "overview" spec, then have separate specs to implement one or two straightforward components of that
[11:14] <sabdfl> like: gconf settings
[11:15] <zyga> hmmm
[11:15] <zyga> https://launchpad.net/people/zkrynicki/+karma
[11:15] <zyga> could someone explain how I got more translations approved than proposed?!?
[11:15] <zyga> translations were re-set some time ago though so this might be related
[11:15] <sivang> sabdfl: right, gconf settings are also in the same , although probably more important. Will do, thanks for the feedback.
[11:15] <zyga> I've made about 2K suggestions
[11:18] <ajmitch> sabdfl: will hct be usable by the community for dapper as well?
[11:20] <sivang> eh hct, just by looking at specs I get tons of question I'd like to ask scott about it =)
[11:21] <ajmitch> yeah I saw it briefly at UDU, haven't heard much since :)
[11:25] <sivang> Kinnison: ping, good morning
[11:27] <sabdfl> ajmitch: hopefully
[11:27] <ajmitch> great
[11:28] <sabdfl> its internal/nda until we get it working well with bzr and critical mass going
[11:28] <sabdfl> major priority right now is shift from baz to bzr
[11:28] <ajmitch> yeah, I've been using bzr itself for awhile
[11:28] <ajmitch> using it for my packages to maintain patches in branches
[11:29] <sivang> sabdfl: so hct is going to be a successor to bzr, like ng of the ng ? :)
[11:29] <sabdfl> sivang: hct is a meta-revision control system
[11:29] <zyga> hmmm
[11:29] <zyga> hct? :)
[11:30] <zyga> why create another another app if you are already working on bzr
[11:30] <sabdfl> the do different things, hct uses bzr underneath
[11:30] <sabdfl> hct is like a package patch manager
[11:30] <zyga> ah
[11:30] <zyga> high level tool?
[11:31] <sabdfl> it says "ok, the apache source package in ubuntu looks like this: upstream, plus this patch, plus that patch"
[11:31] <sivang> sabdfl: ah, so it doesn't manage changes it self, only tracks changes ?
[11:31] <zyga> cool
[11:31] <sabdfl> but instead of dealing with patches, each of those patches is a branch
[11:31] <zyga> like a cookbook :)
[11:31] <sabdfl> that gets merged in when the source package is "assembled"
[11:31] <ajmitch> the demos that I saw were quite cool
[11:31] <sabdfl> you will be able to use it for upstream too
[11:31] <sabdfl> so andrew morton could use it for kernel
[11:31] <sabdfl> to maintain "his kernel"
[11:31] <sivang> ajmitch: there were demonstrations in UDU ?
[11:31] <sabdfl> as linus + set of branches
[11:32] <ajmitch> sivang: yes
[11:32] <ajmitch> but I imagine it's improved a lot in the ~5 months since
[11:32] <sivang> I know I missed some good stuff over UDU now  =)
[11:32] <ajmitch> sivang: you going to UBZ?
[11:32] <sivang> ajmitch: yeah :)
[11:32] <ajmitch> cool, will see you there then :)
[11:34] <sivang> sabdfl: hct calls on bzr to do "source assemblies" then ?
[12:00] <sivang> \sh: xtc ?
[12:01] <sivang> \sh: let me know when you do, I'll join you
[12:01] <\sh> sivang: ok..remove the xtc..I think it's something else then a distributed VC ;)
[12:03] <sivang> \sh: what is it? :)
[12:04] <\sh> sivang: did u ever watched "Bad Boys II" (W. Smith + M. Lawrence)?
[12:04] <\sh> ecstasy ;)
[12:21] <sabdfl> sivang: hct uses bzr as underlying revision control
[12:22] <sabdfl> when you edit a patch in hct, you are editing a bzr branch
[02:04] <sivang> sabdfl: ah cool
[02:51] <sivang> \sh: I only watched the first movie ;)
[02:59] <\sh> sivang: watch the 2nd as well :)
[03:00] <sivang> will do )
[04:26] <tambaqui> Hello
[04:30] <sivang> hey tambaqui
[08:24] <zzniper> does Mark Shuttleworth ever come here? :D
[08:25] <zzniper> Ubuntu is like the best OS EVER :D just wanted to say thnx ^^
[08:27] <zzniper> anyone know why i get a Verfication Certificate pop-up error when i try ship copies from the website?
[08:48] <einheit> zzniper, mark was around a bit earlier, hacking on launchpad and talking with people
[08:49] <einheit> zzniper, what's the url you went to to get that certificate thing?
[12:01] <zygis> hi, anyone knows is ubuntu-artwork package ready for translation?


[21:05] <brainwash> hggdh: regarding the standard bug report responses, should we replace the placeholder RELEASE with "Ubuntu ..." in every case, or use the actual distro name, e.g. "Xubuntu ..." ?