[19:07] <olly> morning
[19:35] <ajmitch> morning
[20:29] <mwhudson> morning
[21:07] <ibeardslee> morning


[00:28] <cowhoof[m]> been thinking....
[00:28] <cowhoof[m]> this place might be to fancy for me
[00:29] <arraybolt3[m]> Why?
[00:30] <cowhoof[m]> maybe it is just for the experienced who knows all that code and fancy talk
[00:30] <arraybolt3[m]> Nope. That's the devel channels. The support channel is for everyone who uses the distro.
[00:31] <cowhoof[m]> ok then
[00:31] <arraybolt3[m]> 👍
[12:05] <Iamthehuman1> y0, not strictly an US question, but I'm on US (and big thanks for this distro, the most fun I have ever done my everyday business on) but I need a nice way to run the audio of a video through some ... euhhh ... filters (?) to make the voice unstealable, because it has been modified in a few ways, like 2-3 different changes should do it. If it could sound nice (it is me singing in a nearby forest to a squirrel that is eating in a tree)
[12:07] <Iamthehuman1> What would you suggest. So to make it unstealable is #1 and if it could even sound like not-totally-a-robot after the mods, that'd be great. Cheers.
[12:12] <Iamthehuman1> that particular impro to the squirrel wasn't so good but in the end of the video I'm pointing to the ground and remarking that it is his favorite eating tree and the evidence is on the ground. I think I could do it in Ardour with some effects/filters/transformations/something or I could do it by loading effects to JACK patchbay, but I thought I'd ask you good people for any human advice.
[14:29] <Eickmeyer> Iamthehuman1: Good question, to which I don't have an answer. Maybe #lau or #opensourcemusicians might have an answer.
[15:18] <Iamthehuman1> Danke für Hilfe und Entschuldigung für die Lärm Eickmeister
[16:48] <Eickmeyer[m]> Iamthehuman1: Bitte, but bear in mind despite my name I don't speak or understand German very well. I'm a 4th generation American.


[12:14] <KaiL> hm, does anybody have problems with reading DVDs? being shown with a yellow icon (=blank disk)?
[09:37] <JRe> loo
[11:00] <JRe> i want to write a little guide on how to package a progran specially for Kubuntu
[11:00] <JRe> what is the best format ? html ?
[11:12] <JRe> re
[11:15] <amu> JRe: no format needed, https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KubuntuDocumentation
[11:20] <JRe> amu: you think this guide is a good idea?
[11:21] <amu> hmm, it a good idea, best place for it create a new KubuntuPackageing page, probably others will help you ...
[11:22] <JRe> okay ;)
[12:07] <JRe> Anyone has yet got this error using docbook-to-man: /usr/bin/nsgmls:/usr/share/xml/docbook/schema/dtd/4.2/docbookx.dtd:112:17:E: "X20AC" is not a function name?
[12:45] <dholbach> hellas
[12:45] <dholbach> anyone of you in touch with VirgilNisly?
[12:46] <dholbach> he put some kde packages on https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUNewPackages
[12:46] <dholbach> but they are all *i386.deb
[12:46] <dholbach> so i can't review them
[12:52] <Riddell> dholbach: not heard of him
[12:52] <dholbach> kio-locate and digikam
[12:53] <Riddell> hmm, maybe I have heard of him
[12:53] <Riddell> I'll send him an e-mail asking for the source
[12:54] <dholbach> ROCK
[01:03] <dholbach> when is motaboy normally online?
[01:03] <Riddell> not sure, not seen him for a bit
[01:03] <dholbach> his metabar_<version>.orig.tar.gz is missing
[01:05] <Riddell> can't find it on the server, I'll e-mail him too
[01:05] <dholbach> made a note on MOTUNewPackages
[01:08] <dholbach> is FrancisGiannaros in here?
[01:11] <dholbach> his server seems to be down
[01:16] <Riddell> not here currently
[01:17] <Riddell> francisg at gmail dot com
[01:18] <Riddell> I can e-mail him too
[01:18] <dholbach> cool
[01:28] <hunger> Hiho!
[01:28] <dholbach> is FrodeDoeving around?
[01:29] <Riddell> he's on the server (frode) but not on a channel
[01:29] <Riddell> hello hunger
[01:30] <dholbach> krusader seems to be already in
[01:30] <hunger> Now ksysguard claims my cpu freq is 0:-(
[01:31] <Riddell> dholbach: but not krusader 1.60
[01:31] <hunger> That does seem a bit slow...
[01:31] <Riddell> oh wait, it is in breezy
[01:32] <dholbach> Riddell: apt-cache show krusader | grep Version
[01:32] <dholbach> ah yes :-)
[01:33] <dholbach> and please tell people not to package natively :-)
[01:33] <Riddell> dholbach: well if you're going to ignore packages just because they're already in you may as well scrap digikam
[01:33] <Riddell> what do you mean package natively?
[01:33] <dholbach> Riddell: if we have the same version and nothing changes
[01:33] <dholbach> no .orig.tar.gz and no .diff.gz :-)
[01:34] <dholbach> Riddell: if somebody wants me to review a package with newer version or fixes, then it's fine with me
[01:35] <Riddell> digikam seems to be the same version
[01:36] <dholbach> i found some other manual merges from debian on the list already :-)
[01:52] <dholbach> how close do you all work with the guys packaging KDE stuff?
[01:52] <Riddell> we are the guys packaging KDE stuff
[01:52] <dholbach> the guys putting their KDE stuff on MOTUNewPackages? :-)
[01:53] <Riddell> fairly closely, I think they've all come through me at some point
[01:53] <dholbach> you should tell them to use pbuilder, i ran across the 2nd package with "Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 4.0.0)" :-(
[01:54] <Riddell> what is pbuilder?
[01:54] <dholbach> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[01:55] <dholbach> it builds packages for you in a chroot, so you can be sure the build process runs in a separated environment and you tackle most of the packaging bugs
[01:55] <Riddell> sounds like good stuff
[01:55] <dholbach> yes, it absolutely is
[01:55] <Riddell> how would that help debhelper >= 4.0.0?
[01:55] <dholbach> the first thing we tell MOTU hopefuls
[01:56] <dholbach> the pbuilder just installs the crack that's in build-depends, plus the usual debootstrap stuff
[01:56] <dholbach> in the chrooted environment the first thing will be: configure-run will complain
[01:58] <dholbach> (because of missing build-depends)
[02:01] <JRe> dholbach: i will soon send you the katapult package
[02:01] <dholbach> JRe: you mean put it on  wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUNewPackages ?
[02:02] <Riddell> amu: could you look at this and see if you can confirm on a PPC or not?  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104091
[02:02] <dholbach> JRe: because if you put it on the wikipage, it will catch more eyes
[02:03] <amu> Riddell: confirmed
[02:03] <amu> same here
[02:04] <Riddell> amu: does it happen with all media or just dvds?
[02:05] <amu> Riddell: only DVD's and only on a ibook, pb is fine
[02:07] <Riddell> amu: hmm, sounds like an ibook issue rather then a kubuntu issue
[02:07] <amu> Riddell: letme track it down later at the evening
[02:26] <amu> KDE 3.4.1 Schedule
[02:26] <amu> From:
[02:26] <amu> Stephan Binner<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:28] <Riddell> May 23rd tagging
[02:33] <dholbach> see you later guys
[02:35] <Riddell> thanks dholbach, I'll try and review some packages later
[02:36] <dholbach> take your time
[03:14] <JRe> Pffffffff riddell i can't manage to move the desktop file
[03:16] <Riddell> JRe: just make a new one, put it in debian/ and add a rule  cp foo.desktop usr/share/applications/kde  in rules
[03:20] <JRe> okay because i was blowing my brain with autotools ;) ;) ;)
[03:23] <JRe> Riddell: i put the cp in the install target?
[03:24] <Riddell> yes, I think so
[03:41] <JRe> Riddell: okay i put a dh_install foo/foo.desktop /usr/share/applications/kde it worked great!
[04:01] <JRe> Riddell:  http://jr.falleri.free.fr/wikini/wakka.php?wiki=KubuntU
[04:02] <JRe> i think it's good now
[04:03] <Riddell> JRe: missing .diff.gz
[04:03] <JRe> okay
[04:04] <amu> and run a lintian katapult_0.2-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[04:05] <JRe> E: katapult: no-shlibs-control-file usr/lib/libkatapultdisplay.so.0.0.0
[04:05] <JRe> E: katapult: no-shlibs-control-file usr/lib/libkatapult.so.0.0.0
[04:05] <JRe> E: katapult: no-shlibs-control-file usr/lib/libkatapultcatalog.so.0.0.0
[04:06] <JRe> Riddell: the diff.gz is here now
[04:07] <JRe> amu: this error is grave?
[04:08] <amu> it should be "E:" free
[04:12] <allee> JRe: control: add home page url to long description
[04:13] <allee> JRe: copyright:  needs a copy of the license used in source files
[04:13] <allee> JRe: if docu is GFDL add a literate copy too
[04:14] <allee> JRe: I'm sure 'dirs' file can be removed
[04:14] <JRe> allee: by docu you mean for the man page?
[04:15] <allee> JRe: no docbook files
[04:15] <allee> bib
[04:15] <allee> not the manpage docbook file
[04:16] <allee> JRe: rename menu.ex to menu otherwise it's ignored
[04:17] <allee> JRe:  hint do yourself a favour and use CDBS for the rules file ;)
[04:18] <allee> JRe: remove or fix watch.ex
[04:19] <JRe> allee: okay there was so many error :)
[04:19] <allee> JRe: Stuff like modifiing/moving .desktop  file should be mentioned in changelog
[04:20] <JRe> allee: where do i put the license files? in the debian dir?
[04:20] <allee> JRe: No error., no just polishing
[04:20] <allee> JRe: everything license related has to go into debian/copyright
[04:23] <JRe> allee: wich package can i take for reference, because i have taken konversation and the copryght file was a similar
[04:23] <JRe> ???
[04:29] <JRe> allee: it's hard to find cdbs doc!
[04:29] <allee> JRe: digikam ;)   There even a mv of a desktop with a CDBS rules
[04:30] <allee> JRe: kalyxo had a good quick intro.  Never needed more for the first weeks
[04:31] <JRe> allee: okay i have taken a look to the exemples: it's very good ;) ;) ;)
[04:31] <JRe> allee: thx for digiKam package ;)
[04:32] <Riddell> JRe: URL for intro?
[04:32] <Riddell> allee, not JRe
[04:34] <allee> google 'cdbs' and 4th hit is a good one.  https://wiki.duckcorp.org/DebianPackagingTutorial/CDBS
[04:35] <allee> Riddell: search debian-mentors there are lot's of refs.   There another very good page, only error is that at the end there's a KDE flame ;)
[04:42] <allee> JRe:  Impressive build-deps.  Nevertheless libc6-i686  is no good on ppc.   I would also remove  lib<x> if lib<x>-dev is already there.
[04:43] <allee> JRe: I don't now katapult but I usally start with debuilder,cdbs,kdelibs4-dev and try it.  A later pbuilder run shows if something missing
[04:43] <JRe> allee:  in fact i have made the build-deps using the script on the debian maint-guide may be it's not godd?
[04:43] <JRe> allee: okay thanks!
[04:45] <allee> JRe: the script is right, but you should do it in a clean environment.   See -686 gotcha
[04:45] <JRe> allee: -686 gotcha ???????
[04:45] <allee> JRe: using pbuilder before a new upload is much better than relying on the script (IMO)
[04:46] <allee> JRe: the libc6-686 build-dep.   Other archs will not be happy.
[04:46] <JRe> okay ;)
[04:47] <allee> JRe: and tell upstream that Makefile should not be in the tarball.   Bloats diff without any reason
[04:48] <JRe> allee: okay i'll him! I have so many things to learn before beeing a good packager!
[04:49] <KaiL> wow, high traffic here :)
[04:49] <allee> JRe:  subscribe to debian-mentors list.   Much boring noise, but many educative threads
[04:51] <allee> JRe: When in doubt I first search the debian-mentors folder.  Hit rate > 90 % for me.
[04:51] <allee> Hi KaiL, don't worry I shut up soon ;)
[04:51] <KaiL> you don't need to
[04:51] <allee> KaiL: tell it to my boss ;)
[04:53] <allee> JRe: try interdiff, diffstat and debdiff.  Help you a lot spot update error, stale files etc
[04:55] <JRe> allee: ok! thanks you for all your advices i will check the man entry of eveything you told me and try to make a real cleam package!
[04:56] <JRe> allee: ;) ;) ;)
[04:56] <JRe> allee: in fact the french version of the main guide is pretty obsolet
[04:57] <allee> JRe: clean pkging is fun (except getting/checking updating copyright file)
[05:00] <allee> JRe: have fun,  KaiL: now it's your turn ;) ,  all:  until later
[05:02] <JRe> allee: thanks! see you later
[05:06] <KaiL> yesterday somebody in #kubuntu found this: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=22135
[05:07] <JRe> yeah kat is a good soft
[05:07] <JRe> but still in early stage
[07:23] <hunger> I hate apps that are to intelligent for their own good!
[07:24] <hunger> kate pops up a window telling me a file it has in its editor was deleted, asking to reload it...
[07:24] <KaiL> I'm just playing with splashy on my K6-2
[07:24] <KaiL> quite nice
[07:24] <KaiL> but then I see, how slow that computer really is ;)
[07:24] <hunger> Failing to reload it assumes that the permissions are borked:-(
[07:45] <KaiL> brrrrr, my test system really needs a more silent power supply
[07:45] <KaiL> that doesn't sound very good
[07:47] <uniq> anyone using kubuntu on ibook/powerbook ? - thinking of getting one of them.. probably a ibook 12"..
[07:48] <Riddell> uniq: amu seems to like them
[07:50] <uniq> so i guess (k)ubuntu runs on them without huge problems?
[07:52] <amu> :)
[07:52] <amu> let's say works for me
[07:54] <KaiL> hehe
[07:54] <amu> prever the ibook, cause accu runs 2 times longer compared to the pb, pb has more power, is faster, has a pcmica :) ibook you need that fucking usb-wlan
[07:55] <amu> ibook need some tricky config that sleep is also supported, pb works everything out of the box
[07:59] <KaiL> except WLAN?
[07:59] <amu> 12" ibook compared with the 15" pb, finally the is a price difference :) probably a 12" pb rocks, never owned such a thing :) proably if there's a new G5 12" i'll try :)
[08:01] <amu> right, wlan never works, till broadcom will publish their specs, compared to M$, it's like M$ put their OS under the gpl :)
[08:01] <KaiL> lol
[08:02] <KaiL> is there something like ndiswrapper for ppc?
[08:02] <amu> nope
[08:03] <amu> well, on the older alu-books or older ibooks ( the first series ) wlan works ( 11mbit )
[08:04] <KaiL> that one isn't made by broadcom?
[08:07] <amu> Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g
[08:08] <KaiL> that's the so called "airport extreme"?
[08:09] <amu> yep
[08:10] <amu> the other, 11mbit, it's just airport
[08:13] <amu> This chipset is a broadcom 4301 chipset. The drivers for this chipset can not be released by the manafacturers because this card has the ability to broadcast in a spectrum that is reserved for military use.
[08:14] <amu>  Because of this, broadcom imposes these limitations in software. By releasing the specifications on how to get this card to work, they may be inadvertantly allowing people to broadcast on a restricted frequency, and therefore making them liable.
[08:14] <amu>
[08:15] <KaiL> lol, and they think, nobody can hack the normal driver to do this too? Idiots...
[08:23] <amu> they tried but noone was offical successful :) even with a mofified ndiswrapper
[08:23] <KaiL> ...official
[08:24] <KaiL> if you are, you'll have some big holes in your door next day? ;)
[08:31] <amu> :)
[09:28] <uniq> shit.. why didn't i focus on this channel..
[09:29] <uniq> i ordered the ibook 12"..
[09:31] <uniq> amu: how do you solve the wlan-issue?
[09:32] <amu> on the ibook with usb-wlan
[09:33] <uniq> ok.. any card you can recommend?
[09:33] <amu> about 20Euro for a Dlink DWL-122
[09:33] <uniq> support for kismet and all?
[09:33] <amu> never tried :) i'll not do such illegal scan things *g*
[09:34] <uniq> illegal? :)
[09:34] <amu> ;-)
[09:34] <uniq> to put it in another way.. i have a 3com atmel based.. that can't find any accesspoints by itself.
[09:36] <amu> you should ask you administraor about access *runningaway*
[09:37] <uniq> do you call the airport administration to get the essid and stuff for the public wlan? :)
[09:41] <amu> ;)
[10:00] <uniq> DWL-122 on it's way :)
[10:25] <uniq> amu: you think i should cancel the ibook order and get the powerbook?
[10:28] <uniq> the only big thing is sleep right? - do I pay the extra $ to get 1.5Ghz, dvd-r and the extra firewire-port? :)
[10:33] <uniq> I'll leave it with the ibook..
[10:47] <amu> uniq: depends what you need and how much money you want spend :)
[10:48] <amu> you get a ibook for 900E a pb costs 1600E
[10:48] <uniq> I ordered the ibook 12", 512M, 60G, no bluetooth.
[10:48] <amu> firefire never used it realy, my extern hdd support both, usb is fast enough and just works
[10:49] <uniq> I think it'll fit my needs well..
[10:49] <uniq> I'm basically just replacing a huge noisy monster of a fujitsu amd64-thingie..
[10:49] <amu> DVD, dont need it also, i've 2 desktops with DVD burners ... so save to money and order 1 gig ram
[10:50] <uniq> I've burned one dvd on this laptop.. just to test.. don't need it.
[10:51] <uniq> I've got a amd64 3700+.. it's running at 800mhz (out of 2.4Ghz) don't need it..
[10:51] <amu> yep, sometimes it's easier, well but i can park them on the hdd and move it to the desktop
[10:51] <amu> so DVD isnt realy usefull for me
[10:53] <uniq> do you have sleep working?
[10:53] <amu> yep
[10:55] <allee> uniq: no bluetooth?  Pity (IMHO) one kdebluetooth tester less ;)
[10:55] <uniq> allee: well.. I can get a usb-thingie to support you :)
[10:56] <allee> I'll make a note ;)
[10:56] <uniq> I'll find a cheap usb-thing and add it to the dwl-122 order i just submitted :)
[11:34] <uniq> amu: thanks for the info :)
[11:35] <uniq> and g'nite to all.
[11:44] <amu> uniq: n,p i'm sure, there will be soon more questions :)


 Oh *wow*. Okay, nice. Something's not pulling in the right backends...
 It seems like, I haven't narrowed it down yet. I thought I would mention it so we could all investigate.
 Can confirm this on the Kubuntu daily ISO
 Oh fun, that stretches beyond where I was looking.
 qutebrowser may be easiest to look at, as it has the fewest dependencies
 Could potentially just be an NCR
 worth trying in a ppa
 I remember qutebrowser working somewhat recently.....
 the whole FORTIFY_SOURCE=3 thing is also making some things go weird
 though I don't immediately see something common between these recently rebuilt with that
 💤🛏 time
[02:12] <arraybolt3> I wonder if the browser nonsense potentially has the same root cause as the riscv64 failure mess
[06:44] <arraybolt3> teward: rearranging power levels?
[06:44]  * arraybolt3 just got the email that I now have ISO rebuild rights
 for Qt based apps, seems like this crash could be affecting anything that uses qtwebengine
 ghostwriter, tellico, notepadqq all crash on start
 and those are only the 1st 3 I tried
 qtwebengine hasn't been rebuilt in noble for nearly a month, so something else has changed to make it misbehave
 /me looks suspiciously at ICU
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/b221e1c5/file_10265.jpg
 Forwarded from RikMills: ^^ ghostwiter
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/00dce717/file_10266.jpg
 Forwarded from RikMills: falkon ^^
 where is calamares packaging now?
[21:25] <arraybolt3> did picom-conf already get seeded?
[21:25] <arraybolt3> actually, /me checks
[21:26] <arraybolt3> it is not, I'll add it
 Ack jfdi
 +1
[21:28] <arraybolt3> and added
[21:28] <arraybolt3> now to regen the lubuntu-desktop metapackage
[21:29] <arraybolt3> uh oh, meta was last updated in... Lunar?!
[21:29]  * arraybolt3 fixes
[21:30] <arraybolt3> ah, no, just hasn't been uploaded to Git.
[21:36] <arraybolt3> tsimonq2: just to be sure I remember how to do this, I just run the "update" script, fix the changelog, and then that's it, right?
[21:36] <arraybolt3> (and then of course upload to Git and LP)
 That sounds correct
[21:38] <arraybolt3> for some reason when I do that, Git asks me for my username and password to LP even though I have SSH configured I thought...
[21:39] <arraybolt3> I mean I literally just cloned and pushed over SSH a second ago updating the seeds themselves.
 Yeah, LP is a little different
[21:39] <arraybolt3> I was pulling and pushing to/from LP
[21:39] <arraybolt3> with SSH, successfully
[21:39] <arraybolt3> so idk what it's doing
[21:40] <arraybolt3> I know for a fact I used to have SSH pull/push working here.
 Gotcha
[21:41] <arraybolt3> I think it's an ssh config issue... lemme try adding the server explicitly.
[21:41] <arraybolt3> oh, of course it is
[21:41] <arraybolt3> because in my VM, my username is "user", not "arraybolt3"
 Makes sense
[21:41] <arraybolt3> so it's trying to ssh in as "user" with the wrong key
[21:46] <arraybolt3> got it working
[23:01] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: Yeah, you have it right :)
[23:01] <tsimonq2> Alright guys, *where* is the critical bug?
[23:01] <tsimonq2> "But Simon, we haven't found anything recently?"
[23:02] <tsimonq2> No, I can feel it. There's one somewhere. It has been raining *too* hard for it not to be pouring.
[23:02] <tsimonq2> Show yourself, bug. :P
[23:04] <kc2bez> ICU or qtwebengine?
[23:05] <tsimonq2> The latter takes like a day to build on a fast machine, I'm not excited for that :P
[23:05] <kc2bez> Yeah, I don't think anyone is
[23:05] <arraybolt3> You asked for a critical bug, not an easy one :P
[23:06] <arraybolt3> I'm willing to build it on my machine though if it would be helpful.
[23:06] <arraybolt3> Alternatively we could just NCR it and see what happens
[23:06] <kc2bez> Rik left some screenshots above
[23:09] <tsimonq2> Both qutebrowser and ghostwriter launch without issue on my system...
[23:10] <kc2bez> 🤔
[23:10] <RikMills> weird
[23:10] <RikMills> falkon?
[23:11] <RikMills> tsimonq2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/falkon/+bug/2046796
[23:11] <kc2bez> You've updated, right?
[23:17] <arraybolt3> Doesn't launch in a brand new Noble VM over here.
[23:18] <arraybolt3> Falkon: Creating new profile directory
[23:18] <arraybolt3> Error creating database schema "No query Unable to fetch row"
[23:18] <arraybolt3> [1712:1712:1218/181615.678815:FATAL:credentials.cc(125)] Check failed: . : Permission denied (13)
[23:18] <arraybolt3> Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)
[23:18] <tsimonq2> Fully updated noble system here.
[23:18] <arraybolt3> Might be graphics hardware related?
[23:19] <tsimonq2> $ apt list --installed | pastebinit
[23:19] <tsimonq2> https://dpaste.com/CYHXNFRXM
[23:20] <arraybolt3> Same version of qtwebengine over here
[23:21] <tsimonq2> maybe I have extra qtwebengine packages that the default install does not?
[23:26] <arraybolt3> https://dpaste.com/ESFQWEMD8
[23:26] <arraybolt3> looks like we have the same webengine packages
[23:27] <arraybolt3> I wonder if this is a SIGILL?
[23:29] <arraybolt3> hrm, kernel message is pretty cryptic
[23:30] <arraybolt3> kernel: [ 2760.894641] traps: falkon[1712] trap int3 ip:7f50be9d7b13 sp:7ffc7a5755a0 error:0 in libQtWebEngineCore.so.5.15.15[7f50bc7b4000+6931000]
[23:30] <arraybolt3> I don't know what a breakpoint trap is...
[23:30] <RikMills> curious that epiphany creashes with the same Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)
[23:31] <RikMills> despite not using qtwebengine
[23:31] <arraybolt3> It's almost like something got built in debug mode?
[23:31] <arraybolt3> And had a breakpoint left...? Is that even possible?
[23:38] <arraybolt3> Epiphany sigtrap is in g_log_structured_array in libglib-2.0
[23:39] <arraybolt3> https://i.imgur.com/15jwUUz.png
[23:40] <arraybolt3> oh interesting, look at this:
[23:41] <arraybolt3> https://i.imgur.com/3XUUKMv.png
[23:41] <arraybolt3> I managed to get a SIGILL out of Falkon after the SIGTRAP
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/1457f9af/file_10269.jpg
[23:42] <arraybolt3> wait so there's literally a breakpoint defined in the code?
[23:42] <RikMills> something to do with logging in qt and gtk apps
[23:44] <arraybolt3> trying falkon with debuginfod now
[23:44] <arraybolt3> this is certainly the weirdest error of this sort I've ever seen
[23:46] <RikMills> the last week or 2 seems to have been full of wierd crashes and bugs
[23:52] <arraybolt3> debuginfod seems to have done almost nothing helpful (didn't get any fancy code snippet like you did), but both the SIGTRAP and the SIGILL are happening in that LogMessage() destructor.
[23:52] <arraybolt3> RikMills: Are you working in a VM or on real hardware?
[23:53] <arraybolt3> If in a VM, are you using host CPU passthrough? If not, could you try that?
[23:53] <arraybolt3> I have a distant thought in the back of my mind that maybe somehow a setting set for the x86_64-v3 rebuild of Lunar somehow propagated to Noble on accident.
[23:54] <RikMills> not sure if I can set that in virtualbox
[23:54] <arraybolt3> hrm, I'll try it on my end then


[01:25] <devel_> Yo, any one here?
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[03:44] <chris_> k
[03:45] <chris_> i got a windows 10 question
[03:45] <valorie> in a kubuntu channel?
[03:45] <valorie> lol
[03:46] <chris_> lol i see there is life in here after all
[03:47] <chris_> but on a serious note, upgraded from 16 to 17 and now cant get my hp display buttons (f3 and f4) up and down to funtion. thoughts?
[03:48] <valorie> !xev
[03:48] <valorie> hmmm
[03:48] <chris_> everythnig else works, tripple checked.
[03:48] <valorie> well dang, it isn't xev
[03:49] <valorie> there is a little unix thing that figures out keypresses
[03:49] <valorie> you might ask in #kde or ##linux
[03:49] <valorie> not quite a kubuntu issue I think
[03:50] <chris_> good call i will do that'
[03:50] <chris_> so whats the weather like where u b?
[03:50] <chris_> nutz droppin yet?
[03:50] <chris_> lol
[03:50] <valorie> nighttime here
[03:51] <chris_> est here ny
[03:53] <chris_> stupid chat bot
[03:53] <chris_> C
[06:01] <Mayzi> https://youtu.be/OM7So4AVFCM
[06:02] <Mayzi> Brian Ruhe connects the dots saying something that no one else on YouTube dare says. The international Jews are robbing humanity of our inheritance by preventing us from accessing the knowledge from the chambers in the pyramids and the Sphynx which could give us free energy and make a paradise on Earth.
 Hi there. My PC don't want to boot anymore. And I don't know why. I didn't do any special update yesterday or anything else. I just use my PC to surf the Internet and use open office
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0WvBCKQw/file_3386.jpg
 I've got this screen. Is there someone,  who could help me out
[08:29] <user|3758> hi
 😉
[09:14] <user|47646> hello
[09:14] <user|47646> i use kubuntu
[09:14] <user|47646> but  how can i open a .exe file?
[09:15] <jubo2> user|47646: If you got enough RAM you could install VirtualBox (or other virtual machine software) and boot up.. too late
[09:16] <user|19464> how can i open a .exe file on kubuntu? please help me
[09:17] <acheronuk> 'open it' to do what with it?
[09:17] <user|19464> it is a file
[09:17] <user|19464> you don't need install iit
[09:18] <user|19464> it
[09:19] <acheronuk> what are you want to do with it? it could be a program that runs standalone on windows. it could be a windows installer. it could be a self extracting archive for windows etc...
[09:20] <user|19464> No, if you open the program it runs
[09:20] <user|19464> on windows
[09:20] <acheronuk> depending on what it is, as what you want to do, the answer may differ
[09:20] <acheronuk> !wine
[09:20] <acheronuk> so that then I think ^^^
[09:21] <user|19464> i go try that
[09:21] <user|19464> linux is hard to use
[09:22] <user|19464> to install things
[09:25] <user|19464> how do i open exe with wine?
[09:29] <user|19464> my exe  file says: preview as text
[09:30] <user|19464> it is a windows executable
[09:30] <user|19464> do you know thhat
[09:34] <user|19464> plz help me
[09:38] <OficineRobotica> user|19464: don't you have a open with voice when you right click it?
[09:41] <OficineRobotica>  user|19464: open Konsole then type : sudo apt-get install wine winetricks then try to right click your exe file again
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
 My PC don't want to boot anymore. Anyone any idea?
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/gGIRMfi6/file_3386.jpg
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Jonas, booting off usb ?
 Download Ubuntu on another computer, copy to USB and then plug in at my PC right? And then? Start like normal?
[13:02] <mparillo> Sometimes you might have to tell the PC to boot from your USB. So on this HP of mine, I hit escape before the boot sequence.
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Jonas, what method did you use to copy the iso to your usb stick
 @BluesKaj, Don't know what you mean. I just used a windows PC, downloaded the iso and copy/paste it to the usb-folder.  Maybe cut/paste. I don't know exactly because it is more than 2 years ago. I'm really not a pro with Ubuntu
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Jonas you have to use Rufus on your windows pc to copy an iso to the usb, which makes it bootable, Just copying to a folder won't work
 K
 I'll try.
 Rufus is an separate program,  right?
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Jonas , make sure you format the the usb to fat32 as well
[13:10] <BluesKaj> yes Rufus is an app for windows
[15:50] <MLatimudan> hello
[15:51] <chcknrub> http://www.biblestudytools.com/video/in-luke-13-1-5-what-did-jesus-mean-by-repent.html
[15:52] <BluesKaj> chcknrub, this not the place for offtopic posts
[18:52] <BluesKaj> !webmin
[18:57] <oerheks> BluesKaj, some claim webmin improved ??
[19:00] <acheronuk> that factiod was last updated in 2011
[19:02] <oerheks> plesk onyx would be an alternative
[19:03] <oerheks> oh wait, that is paid
[19:09] <BluesKaj> dunno oer  I was just checking for a user in ##linux
[19:09] <BluesKaj> oerheks,^
[19:33] <user|36071> hi
[20:15] <RonaldsMazitis> I changed my left crtl key to super key
[20:15] <RonaldsMazitis> quassel irc client seems to not understand that
[20:15] <RonaldsMazitis> so zoom does not work
[20:15] <RonaldsMazitis> every browser somehow understand super key as new cryl
[20:15] <RonaldsMazitis> crtl *
[20:35] <valorie> RonaldsMazitis: how did you change it?
[20:35] <RonaldsMazitis> xmodmap -e "remove mod4 = Super_L"
[20:35] <RonaldsMazitis> xmodmap -e "add control = Super_L"
[20:37] <valorie> ah
[20:38] <valorie> well, you need to do that in systemsettings to get the rest of the stack to understand it
[20:38] <valorie> xmodmap only works for X-controlled stuff
[20:38] <RonaldsMazitis> kde system settings right
[20:38] <RonaldsMazitis> I'm on openbox
[20:39] <valorie> easy way to do that is alt+f4 and type keymap or so
[20:39] <valorie> err, global shortcuts
[20:39] <valorie> uh
[20:42] <RonaldsMazitis> I did that, because I think my physical keyboard is broken and pushes crtl itself
[20:43] <RonaldsMazitis> alt-f4 is exit app key
[20:43] <RonaldsMazitis> I'm not on kde
[20:43] <RonaldsMazitis> again
[20:44] <valorie> there is no such thing as being "on kde"
[20:44] <valorie> you are in a kubuntu channel for starters
[20:44] <valorie> which is for KDE software on an ubuntu base
[20:44] <RonaldsMazitis> I mean window manager or something
[20:44] <valorie> so do you have krunner? alt+f4 or alt+space?
[20:45] <RonaldsMazitis> nop, I'm using openbox
[20:45] <valorie> KDE window manager is kwin
[20:45] <RonaldsMazitis> yeah I'm not using that
[20:45] <valorie> plasma is the environment
[20:45] <RonaldsMazitis> my session is openbox
[20:45] <valorie> so just some KDE software
[20:45] <valorie> that's fine
[20:45] <valorie> unsure why you are asking in #kubuntu
[20:46] <valorie> but you can still use systemsettings and set global shortcuts I believe
[20:46] <RonaldsMazitis> so I should go to just #kde
[20:46] <valorie> does alt+f4 open krunner for you?
[20:46] <RonaldsMazitis> I just looked at those kde system settings could not find remaping keyboard
[20:47] <RonaldsMazitis> of course no
[20:47] <valorie> global shortcuts
[20:47] <valorie> if you want to remap, in Qt that is handled by locales, unfortunately
[20:47] <valorie> which sucks a bit, it's true
[20:48] <valorie> if you are not using any KDE software, you might try #quassel
[20:48] <valorie> which is not KDE software btw
[20:49] <RonaldsMazitis> I really don't care that much
[20:49] <RonaldsMazitis> it's just bit fancy that crtl differs on kde software
[20:50] <RonaldsMazitis> I have kde installed full plasma and all the stuff that comes with it on ubuntu 16.04
[20:51] <RonaldsMazitis> but, my pc , intel i5 processor is too slow for using it
[20:51] <valorie> quassel isn't KDE software
[20:52] <valorie> RonaldsMazitis: I suggest trying kubuntu sometime rather than installing plasma etc on top of Ubuntu
[20:52] <valorie> that's what we intensively test
[20:53] <RonaldsMazitis> tried using plain kubuntu back in the day, was slow for me
[20:53] <RonaldsMazitis> simillary to gnome 3
[20:53] <RonaldsMazitis> used unity for long time, stopped using when upgraded from 12.04
[20:54] <valorie> back in the day it was slower and more "heavy" it's true
[20:54] <joozty> test
[20:54] <anqxyr> quick question. I can go to audio volume thingy in the tray, see a list of applications, and mute or unmute any one of them. I tend to use that a lot. Is there a way to bind a hotkey to "mute current window" or something like that?
[20:55] <RonaldsMazitis> ok so gn
[21:02] <joozty> hi guys
[21:12] <joozty> test 2
[21:14] <syd> If I installed Kubuntu 17.10 beta 1 and have applied all updates, is it the same as Kubuntu 17.10 RC1?
[21:17] <acheronuk> syd: yes, it would pretty much be. an iso build is created from the archive packages that exist when it is spun
[21:17] <syd> acheronuk: Thanks.
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[21:44] <joozty> joj\
[21:44] <oerheks> joozty, please don't.
[21:45] <joozty> sorry, i tested my irc bot
[21:45] <oerheks> remove that bot.
[21:45] <joozty> jop
[23:09] <user|91335> Hey everyone, trying to make a linux live usb of kubuntu and it doesn't become bootable for some reason. Haven't changed any of the setting aside from format partition during usb creation. Any aadvice?
[23:11] <oerheks> usb/fat32 should do
[23:11] <user|91335> Did - no luck
[23:11] <oerheks> what program/method did you use to create the usb?
[23:11] <user|91335> Linux Live USB Creator
[23:12] <oerheks> hmm should work too.
[23:12] <oerheks> sudo dd if=/path/to/kubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M  # this is what i use
[23:12] <user|91335> :(
[23:12] <oerheks> * if the usb is sdb
[23:13] <oerheks> and sync after that
[23:13] <user|91335> Let me see...


[03:16] <aj00200> Hello. I previously registered for launchpad with my email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>thus making my launchpad id aj0020020. My online alias has always been aj00200 and I now have the email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>registered to my account. Is there a way to change my id?
[03:26] <aj00200> mm, I think I'm going to leave for tonight. Goodnight everyone,
[03:28] <CarlFK> aj00200:
[03:28] <CarlFK> there is a change ID thing somewhere - it isn't easy to find... leme dig
[03:29] <CarlFK> er.. dinner time.. sorry.  im off for a while
[04:59] <CarlFK> aj00200: im back... still need help changing your id?
[05:19] <thomi> source recipe builds seem to be backed up a long way - 18+ hours. Something going on?
[05:22] <wgrant> thomi: Most of the builders are busy testing Ubuntu updates, so there will be a backlog for the next couple of days. I've reassigned some of the amd64 builders to i386 to hopefully shorten the i386 queue a bit, as that's where architecture-independent builds (like recipes) happen.
[05:22] <thomi> wgrant: cool - out of curiosity - why the rush of updates right now?
[05:23] <wgrant> thomi: Most of the PPA builders are primarily hardware testing machines, so they're taken back for a while whenever a new kernel needs testing.
[05:24] <thomi> ok, cheers
[07:08] <Neo31> https://login.ubuntu.com/some-string-here.../+decide >>> Sign in to Ubuntu Wiki "Yes, sign me in" button keeps loading for ever, what should I do (browser is FF4)
[07:09] <Neo31> https://login.ubuntu.com/some-string-here.../+decide >>> Sign in to Ubuntu Wiki, If you proceed, the following information will be available to Ubuntu Wiki... "Yes, sign me in" button keeps loading for ever, what should I do (browser is FF4)
[08:16] <lifeless> Neo31: thats got nothing to do with launchpad these days - try asking in #canonical-isd
[08:17] <Neo31> thank you lifeless
[08:18] <tsimpson> the wiki was recently updated, so it may be a few bugs to be squished still
[08:18] <tsimpson> the good news is that, once you are logged in, it's super fast again
[13:39] <Quintasan> james_w: ping
[17:33] <aj00200> Can I get my launchpad id changed from aj0020020 to aj00200?
[19:33] <NV0N> anyone know how to delete a series in a LP project?
[19:43] <NV0N> lifeless, thumper ^^
[19:43] <NV0N> btw happy weekend :-)
[22:13] <lifeless> NV0N: mark it inactive
[22:13] <lifeless> or obsolete or something
[22:15] <NV0N> lifeless: that did it. thanks
[22:59] <fontanon> Hi everybody.
[23:00] <fontanon> Does launchpad ppa handle applying quilt patches building debian packages ?
[23:13] <tumbleweed> fontanon: yes. With source format 3.0 (quilt), that's done by dpkg-source. With other source formats, it's probably done explicitly in debian/rules
[23:15] <fontanon> tumbleweed: nice! I'm using format 3.0 (quilt)
[23:15] <fontanon> tumbleweed: the point it's .. I don't know why the patched hadn't been applied on my last build
[23:17] <fontanon> tumbleweed: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/73739573/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-amd64.datapkg_0.8-1~ppa1~maverick1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[23:20] <tumbleweed> fontanon: "dpkg-source: info: applying SkipInstallRequires.diff" looks like it applied it
[23:21] <fontanon>  tumbleweed: dumb of me !
[23:23] <tumbleweed> fontanon: try deleting the contents of egg-info too
[23:26] <fontanon> tumbleweed: as you can see .. the build fails because setup.py files marks a dependency for downloading. The quilt patch was for removes this dependency.
[23:26] <fontanon> tumbleweed: do you thing the egg-info is responsible for the building error ?
[23:27] <tumbleweed> yes, look at the requires.txt inside it
[23:28] <fontanon> tumbleweed: hmm you're right .. I didn't realize ...
[23:29] <tumbleweed> egg-info is generated by setuptools (setup.py). So it's safe (and sensible) to delete it in clean
[23:29] <fontanon> tumbleweed: I'm afraid I must upload the fixed package again with dput, musn't I?
[23:29] <tumbleweed> yes
[23:30] <fontanon> tumbleweed: the i386 building is pending, what's the safer way to cancel the building and upload it again?
[23:31] <tumbleweed> you can't let it fail, or be superceeded by the new upload. Btw, datapkg isn't a particularly unique sounding package name.
[23:31] <tumbleweed> "can't, let it fail"
[23:33] <fontanon> Ok, so the best is wating it for failing, then upload, isn't it?
[23:33] <tumbleweed> just upload straight away. If the build hasn't started yet, only the new one will be built
[23:33] <fontanon> Oh! ok, i didn't catch it up!.
[23:34] <fontanon> tumbleweed: thank you for your help.
[23:35] <tumbleweed> np. BTW #ubuntu-packaging is probably a better place for future packaging issues
[23:36] <fontanon> Good advice, I just thought it was an issue of launchpad dealing with quilt


[16:19] <steveporter92> hi im having trouble executing the awscli tool from my cloud-init config on ec2
[16:20] <steveporter92> in runcmd:
[16:20] <steveporter92> im pip installing the awscli
[16:20] <steveporter92> and running - 'aws s3 cp --region eu-west-1 s3://repo/puppet-latest.tar.gz /tmp/puppet-latest.tar.gz'
[16:21] <steveporter92> but it throws the error /var/lib/cloud/instance/scripts/runcmd: 5: /var/lib/cloud/instance/scripts/runcmd: aws: not found
[16:21] <steveporter92> in my log
[16:27] <steveporter92> any ideas?
[16:28] <Odd_Bloke> steveporter92: Is awscli installed?
[16:28] <Odd_Bloke> (Check the log to see if it's actually being installed before your script is run; I can't remember what order things happen in)
[16:32] <smoser> steveporter92, its either ordering or path
[16:32] <smoser> runcmd may not have /usr/local/bin in its path, i think it should, but may not.
[16:33] <smoser>  /var/log/cloud-init-output.log should show you some more info. you can also just try running that command yourself.
[16:40] <steveporter92> yeah it was the path
[16:40] <steveporter92> thanks guys :)


[00:19] <AleksejsM> Hi
[00:20] <AleksejsM> My kubuntu is completely broken after release-upgrade. Can anyone help me?
[00:23] <valorie> what do you mean by broken, AleksejsM
[00:24] <AleksejsM> First of all, wireless stopped working
[00:25] <AleksejsM> I googled for solution, found some thread on askubuntu
[00:25] <valorie> let's start at the beginning
[00:25] <valorie> what were you upgrading from, and to what, and how did you do it?
[00:26] <valorie> what error messages are you getting?
[00:26] <valorie> etc.
[00:26] <AleksejsM> 12.10 to 13.10
[00:27] <AleksejsM> After upgrade, wireless stopped working
[00:27] <valorie> 13.04, I assume
[00:27] <AleksejsM> Yes
[00:28] <valorie> or LTS > LTS?
[00:28] <valorie> which is 12.04 > 12.04
[00:28] <valorie> I mean 13.04
[00:28] <valorie> hmmm, seems like my wireless stopped for a bit too
[00:29] <valorie> but updates fixed it almost instantly, and that was a beta
[00:29] <AleksejsM> I had 12.10 for a long time and decided to upgrade
[00:29] <valorie> so did you do `do-release-upgrade` in the cli?
[00:30] <AleksejsM> No, I did it from gui
[00:30] <valorie> from Muon?
[00:30] <AleksejsM> Yes
[00:30] <valorie> ok
[00:30] <valorie> was your system fully up-to-date before doing the upgrade?
[00:31] <AleksejsM> All packages were up to date
[00:31] <valorie> cool
[00:31] <AleksejsM> After upgrade wireless stopped working
[00:31] <valorie> just to ensure that everything is copacetic, I would do, in the konsole `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[00:32] <AleksejsM> So I googled for solution
[00:32] <valorie> all in one line
[00:32] <valorie> just as i typed it -- you can copy/paste into konsole using control shift V
[00:33] <AleksejsM> I can't as my system does not work
[00:33] <AleksejsM> Let me finish
[00:33] <valorie> no way to use a wire?
[00:33] <valorie> ok
[00:34] <AleksejsM> So I googled and found some solution on askubuntu
[00:34] <valorie> right, as you said
[00:35] <valorie> can you paste in the link, so i can see what you did?
[00:35] <AleksejsM> They offered to download and make install drivers for that
[00:35] <AleksejsM> A sec, I'll try to find that link
[00:36] <AleksejsM> http://askubuntu.com/questions/419867/qualcomm-atheros-ar9485-wireless-network-adapter-not-working-on-ubuntu-13-10
[00:37] <AleksejsM> I did as recomended in 1st answer
[00:37] <valorie> for starters, this is about 13.10, which you do not have
[00:38] <AleksejsM> And now desktop does not star
[00:38] <AleksejsM> t*
[00:38] <valorie> also this is about a particular atheros adapter
[00:38] <valorie> do you have that one?
[00:38] <valorie> doesn't START?
[00:38] <AleksejsM> I have that adapter
[00:39] <AleksejsM> At boot, it asks for password then tries to load everything and hangs
[00:40] <valorie> I'm sorry, this is beyond what I can help with
[00:40] <valorie> if no one pops up soon, i would: burn an ISO to a thumbdrive, and try it out as a live session
[00:41] <valorie> if it works, then you can do a clean install
[00:41] <valorie> or, if you do not want to do that, write to the kubuntu-users list and ask there
[00:42] <AleksejsM> Not sure it's an option as all I have now is my phone
[00:43] <valorie> ooooo
[00:43] <valorie> please write the list then
[00:43] <valorie> explain everything very clearly, as you did above
[00:44] <valorie> including that link, please
[00:44] <valorie> where do you live?
[00:44] <valorie> perhaps I could burn an ISO and send it to you
[00:44] <valorie> or find someone close to you to do so
[00:44] <AleksejsM> Just got a general protection fault :-(
[00:45] <valorie> you'll probably have to do everything in terminal until this is fixed
[00:45] <AleksejsM> Yes
[00:45] <valorie> control + alt + f2-5 or so
[00:46] <AleksejsM> But now I can't even access to the terminal
[00:46] <valorie> but I must go find some dinner
[00:46] <valorie> yikes!
[00:47] <valorie> kubuntu-users mailing list
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[00:48] <AleksejsM> I guess the problem is with broken network-manager
[00:48] <valorie> sure, but that shouldn't crash your system
[00:49] <AleksejsM> Btw, ctrl+alt+F# doesn't work
[00:49] <AleksejsM> Not sure why
[00:49] <AleksejsM> I guess i need a clean install
[04:21] <GermanMeat> Anyone else using Kubuntu 14.04 with touchscreen netbook?
[04:22] <GermanMeat> trying to get multi-touch on screen to work.
[04:22] <GermanMeat> Dimming doesn't work either
[04:22] <GermanMeat> intel graphics
[09:25] <OxDeadC0de> I'm running an old p4 with an ati radeon 7500 rage theater card (with a phillips tv decoder on the card). I'm trying to get the tuner to work, anyone awake willing to try assisting?
[09:32] <ikonia> whats the actual problem with it ?
[09:34] <OxDeadC0de> There is no /dev/v4l/video0 , nor /dev/dvb . the card is working on regular output via dvi with a vga adapter, but the tv-input tuner isn't being recognized
[09:36] <OxDeadC0de> read something about the kernel switching from ?USM? to ?KSM? for the v4l support and the radeon driver simply dropping all tv tuner stuff because a) nobody had time, or b) nobody knew how to convert what was written
[09:46] <ikonia> looks like it's dead in the 3.0 kernel
[09:46] <ikonia> from all the notes/documentation I see
[09:48] <OxDeadC0de> >_<
[09:49] <OxDeadC0de> I'm going to see if Catalyst helps, otherwise..  Any help?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> !info akonadi-server
[15:26] <shadeslayer> mr-rich: try #amarok
[15:27] <shadeslayer> or posting on the kde forums
[15:27] <mr-rich> shadeslayer: iPhone won't mount correctly in Kubuntu ... mounts as camera only. Mounts in Ubuntu fine ...
[15:28] <mr-rich> shadeslayer: both run 14.04
[15:28] <shadeslayer> If I had an answer to your question, I'd have replied here instead of sending you to alternative support channels :P
[16:13] <cfaulk40> good evening.  I wonder if someone would be kind enough to help me with my new 14.04 install please?  I'm having difficulty making it look like KDE.  The panel is weird, I can't find any of the widgets and such like, and it's really looking quite strange.  Are there any configuration guides out there at all please?
[16:13] <cfaulk40> I think it's using Gnome's interface, which is why it looks "wrong" to me...
[16:17] <BluesKaj> cfaulk40, which site did you DL the iso file from?
[16:17] <cfaulk40> ubuntu.org
[16:18] <cfaulk40> pulled it through the download button on the website
[16:18] <BluesKaj> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[16:18] <BluesKaj> that's the kubuntu site
[16:19] <cfaulk40> so you mean I've installed the wrong one?  Well god on a growbag.  When I load this it says it's kubuntu, during the install I selected Kubuntu Desktop...
[16:21] <aljosa> i'm getting "unbootable disk error...", tried booting w/ installation usb image, chroot-ing and running update-grub2 but it didn't work. any suggestions?
[16:21] <cfaulk40> oh well, back to the drawing board.  I'll wipe this install out and go get the right iso.
[16:22] <aljosa> existing system which worked before on mb air
[16:23] <bennypr0fane> hello, I'm in a bad pickle, I worked on a presentation in LibreOffice Impress for hours, then closed it and clicked "close without saving". Now it's gone, I can't find it anywhere! I'm afraid I forgot to name the file and specify a location first, so it wasn't saved anywhere. How can I recover this? I'm on Kubuntu 14.04
[16:23] <bennypr0fane> ayn ideas?
[16:23] <cfaulk40> see ya later
[16:25] <BluesKaj> aljosa, mb air?
[16:26] <aljosa> yes, the only recent change was that i've upgraded osx to mavericks version
[16:26] <aljosa> dual boot kubuntu/osx worked ok before that
[16:26] <BluesKaj> what's mb air?
[16:27] <aljosa> macbook air
[16:27] <BluesKaj> oh
[16:28] <BluesKaj> aljosa, suggest you try boot-repair
[16:31] <aljosa> BluesKaj: where can i find boot-repair? it's not available as command in shell/terminal
[16:31] <BluesKaj> it's a live cd/media
[16:33] <BluesKaj> aljosa, http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/
[16:42] <bennypr0fane> What is the location of temporary files?
[16:44] <BluesKaj> bennypr0fane, /tmp
[16:46] <genii> Also /var/tmp/kdecache-<your-username>
[16:48] <bennypr0fane> BluesKaj: for all the applications?
[16:49] <bennypr0fane> LO must have saved that draft somewhere, right?
[16:50] <BluesKaj> bennypr0fane, also check genii post above ^
[16:50] <bennypr0fane> BluesKaj: sorry, just noticed it.
[16:50] <bennypr0fane> nothing useful there
[16:51] <bennypr0fane> are there hidden files as well?
[16:52] <genii> There are a number of dot-files in a home directory. But they contain usually settings for different apps or settings, not things like a cache of a document you were working on or anything like that
[16:55] <bennypr0fane> genii found a list of paths that LO uses. nothing in there. backup  files are actually below /home/user/.config etc. crap.
[16:56] <bennypr0fane> *if* I has activated the option for making backup files
[16:56] <bennypr0fane> but i dint
[18:27] <Dat> Hello can someone tell me if they have usb 3.0 working in the 14.10 version?
[18:28] <gebjgd> Dat: my usb 3.0 work in 14.04
[18:28] <gebjgd> Dat: my usb 3.0 works already in 14.04
[18:29] <Dat> Yes in my 14.04 is works too but since I upgraded to 14.10
[18:29] <Dat> it no longer works
[18:30] <Dat> and I couldn't find away to downgrade without reformating
[18:30] <wuschLOR> 14.10 ?
[18:30] <Dat> yes
[18:30] <Dat> I believe its a dev version
[18:30] <gebjgd> Dat: 14.10 is sid
[18:30] <Dat> what is sid?
[18:30] <gebjgd> Dat: still in development
[18:31] <gebjgd> Dat: just like debian sid
[18:31] <Dat> right
[18:31] <gebjgd> Dat: then you should know that
[18:31] <Dat> I have no method's of downgrading except format and start over
[18:31] <BluesKaj> 14.10 kubuntu is devel version
[18:31] <gebjgd> Dat: *ubuntu is really easy to reinstall, what is the problem?
[18:32] <Dat> gebjgd: I'll have to format and start over
[18:32] <gebjgd> Dat: not really
[18:32] <BluesKaj> Dat, I'm running 14.10 and it's more stable than 14.04 is on another partition on the same pc
[18:32] <gebjgd> Dat: backup your /etc
[18:33] <Dat> BluesKaj: yeah my 14.10 works well but I use my 3.0 drive all the time and seems to not work in 14.10
[18:33] <Dat> ;/
[18:33] <BluesKaj> usb?
[18:34] <Dat> yes usb
[18:34] <gebjgd> Dat: get your apt list --installed then reinstall
[18:34] <gebjgd> Dat: what is the problem?
[18:34] <BluesKaj> Dat, have you updated and upgraded since the install?
[18:34] <Dat> Yes
[18:35] <BluesKaj> ok, also dist-upgrade
[18:35] <Dat> BluesKaj: and since im on 14.10 already what is the dist-upgrade going to do for me?
[18:36] <Dat> dist-upgrade has nothing to upgrade
[18:36] <gebjgd> Dat: if you expect always new package, then you should use archlinux
[18:36] <BluesKaj> dist-upgrade will upgrade existing packages and kde
[18:37] <BluesKaj> it doesn't upgrade to a new OS anymore , that's what do-release-upgrade does now
[18:37] <Dat> gebjgd: backing up my apt-get installed list and my /etc I dont think re-installing ubuntu on top of an installed version would be wise
[18:37] <Dat> and most likely will crash my dualboot
[18:38] <BluesKaj> gebjgd, this is kubuntu, if you have any suggestions use them in the context of thi support chat pls
[18:38] <Dat> BluesKaj: ahh cool I thought dist-upgrade did that still
[18:38] <BluesKaj> no
[18:39] <gebjgd> BluesKaj: dont get me wrong. i am using kubuntu
[18:39] <BluesKaj> ok , lets stick with the subject at hand
[18:39] <gebjgd> Dat: so just reinstall kubuntu and apt-get install your apt list --installed
[18:40] <BluesKaj> no just dist-upgrade
[18:42] <Dat> hrmm perhaps there are different methods to get what I need
[18:43] <lordievader> Dat: Does udev see your usb drive?
[18:44] <Dat> lordievader: when I do I udevadm monitor and unplug and replug my usb drive nothing shows up
[18:46] <Dat> lordievader: I know the drive works because when I plug it in to my usb 2.0 the drive works
[18:46] <lordievader> So your kernel doesn't see it.
[18:46] <Dat> hrmm
[18:46] <Dat> so I need to reconfigure my kernel?
[18:47] <Dat> 3.15.0-6-generic
[18:47] <lordievader> Not really sure if there is a usb 3 driver, or if the kernel team enabled it for that matter.
[18:47] <Dat> is what I have
[18:49] <Dat> or maybe downgrade to a kernel that ccould see it
[18:49] <lordievader> Dat: What is the output of "zcat /proc/config.gz|grep USB_XHCI"
[18:50] <Dat> gzip: /proc/config.gz: No such file or directory
[18:53] <BluesKaj> Dat, does plain ol' lsusb show the hub
[18:54] <Dat> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[18:54] <BluesKaj> I have the kernel and the 3.0 usb hub/port shows up here
[18:54] <lordievader> Dat: Pff, "cat /boot/config-$(uname -r)|grep CONFIG_USB_XHCI" ;)
[18:54] <BluesKaj> same kernel that is
[18:55] <lordievader> On my Saucy install it is enabled too, so it probably aint the driver availability.
[18:55] <Dat> CONFIG_USB_XHCI_HCD=y
[18:55] <Dat> CONFIG_USB_XHCI_PLATFORM=m
[18:55] <lordievader> That's what I mean, the driver is compiled into the kernel ;)
[18:56] <Dat> lordievader: so the driver is compiled but not loaded?
[18:59] <lordievader> Erm, I think that only applies to drivers compiles as modules.
[19:01] <Dat> well thanks everyone for the input
[19:03] <Dat> this is going to be a long re-install process yikes
[19:06] <bprompt> Dat:    long?
[19:06] <Dat> yup I am going to have to backup everything and re-install and re-configure and install all my apps
[19:06] <Dat> seems like a long process to me
[19:07] <bprompt> hmmm
[19:07] <bprompt> back up .. what?
[19:07] <bprompt> Dat:    you pretty much all you need is $HOME really
[19:08] <Dat> bprompt: its better to backup everything so incase I need something can go to a backup and get it if need be.
[19:08] <bprompt> as far as 14.10.... dunno... I guess you never kept the .debs from 14.04   but I might think the 14.10 may work with it, dunno
[19:08] <Dat> Im just going to start fresh from 13.04 and wont bother doing any upgrades until tested in a VM
[19:09] <Dat> Prolly what I should have done at first but rolled the dice and lost my usb 3.0
[19:09] <bprompt> you do know 13.04 EOL ended last january, right?
[19:09] <Z_God> does anyone here use kubuntu 14.04 with pulseaudio?
[19:09] <Dat> bprompt: perhaps but it was the last version that I know of where all of my functions worked
[19:10]  * lordievader agrees with Dat that it is good to backup the sys-dirs too.
[19:10] <Z_God> I've got 2 instances of pulseaudio running after logging in, which is causing problems
[19:10] <lordievader> Z_God: I thought I fixed that by killing the respawn of pulseaudio.
[19:10] <lordievader> Not really sure though.
[19:11] <Z_God> lordievader: when was this fix released?
[19:11] <lordievader> Z_God: It's more of a work around then a fix. Let alone an official fix.
[19:11] <bprompt> Dat:     well.... anyhow.... after installing 13.04  don't forget to grab the .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:12] <Z_God> lordievader: maybe you could look at my bug report, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1325282
[19:12] <bprompt> Dat:      and while the backup happens, recall that you always wanted to watch a rerun of the "english patient" anyhow  =P
[19:12] <lordievader> Wasn't Raring EOL?
[19:13] <bprompt> lordievader:   was at the end of january 2014
[19:14] <lordievader> So who is installing Raring now?
[19:14] <Dat> if I could get my usb 3.0 back I could avoid the format / reinstall
[19:14] <lordievader> What's wrong with Trusty? (I've come to believe Dat was running Utopic)
[19:15] <Dat> I am running utopic
[19:15] <bprompt> yeap... 14.04 would be nice
[19:15] <lordievader> Z_God: Utopic has the same behaviour (2 PA processes), lets see if my "fix" works.
[19:16] <lordievader> Dat: So what's wrong with Trusty?
[19:16] <Dat> havent used it
[19:17] <Dat> not sure if my usb 3.0 will work
[19:17] <bprompt> hmmm   Dat   so you went from 13.04   to 14.10?  hmm
[19:17] <lordievader> Dat: Then the question why did you install a development release?
[19:20] <BluesKaj> lordievader, USB 3.0 works here on 14.10
[19:20] <lordievader> BluesKaj: ?
[19:22] <BluesKaj> lordievader, Dat's USB 3.0 isn't being recognized  on his 14.10 install
[19:22] <lordievader> Z_God: Ah, now I remember, adding the respawn=no starts no instance of pa at all. However this is quickly solved by adding pa to your .profile. (True, this is a very dirty workaround, but it does seem to do the job)
[19:22] <Dat> lordievader: I wanted to try it
[19:23] <Dat> bprompt: yes 13.04 to 14.10
[19:23] <bprompt> Dat:     you may be better served with 14.04 I'd think
[19:24] <Z_God> lordievader: I guess that would help for now, do you know a bit more about this problem? it seems like a significant bug in trusty
[19:25] <BluesKaj> bprompt, not necessarily ..14.04 is buggier so far than 14.10is
[19:25] <bprompt> hmmm
[19:25] <BluesKaj> bprompt, I'm running both on the same pachine \
[19:25] <BluesKaj> machine
[19:25] <lordievader> Z_God: Nope, it's still present in Utopic ;)
[19:25] <bprompt> BluesKaj:    can't  say I checked for usb3.0  since I don't have one here, but when I ran 14.04  ran fine for me
[19:26] <BluesKaj> bprompt, well it runs fine here on 14.10
[19:27] <Z_God> lordievader: so you put '/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog' at the bottom of your .profile?
[19:27] <lordievader> Are we getting into a heated argument on where usb3 works or am I just reading too much into it?
[19:27] <BluesKaj> not a n
[19:27] <lordievader> Z_God: No, just "pulseaudio --daemon", but let it suit your needs ;_
[19:27] <lordievader> ;)*
[19:28] <mr-rich> Anyone able to mount an iPhone 5s (IOS 7.0.4) in Kubuntu 14.04? Works fine in Ubuntu 14.04 ...
[19:28] <BluesKaj> heated argument lordievader, more lie a discussion
[19:28] <BluesKaj> like
[19:28] <Z_God> lordievader: that command is what I see twice from ps aux
[19:28] <BluesKaj> comparing notes
[19:28] <Z_God> I have no clue what would best suit my needs :)
[19:29] <lordievader> Z_God: Then just keep their command.
[19:29]  * BluesKaj stops snacking and pays more attn to the KB
[19:32] <Z_God> lordievader: there's no --daemon option btw, but there is --daemonize, I think I'd better add it to avoid pulseaudio staying in the foreground
[19:33] <BluesKaj> bprompt, think it's a HW/API thing like my desktop has with kmail and akonadi PIM server , after about a week of using kmail it begins segfaulting, and after 3 yrs of this I finally gave up looking for a fix.
[19:34] <bprompt> could be, yes
[19:37] <BluesKaj> kmail was great in KDE3
[19:38] <Dat> is it possible my usb 3.0 drive specifically doesn't work but another would?
[19:38] <Dat> is there anyway I can re-install a kenrel that would see the 3.0 drive?
[19:39] <raymears> identify doizece
[19:40] <BluesKaj> Dat, try an older kernel in grub
[19:40] <Dat> will do
[19:41] <Z_God> lordievader: I have two /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio*.desktop files
[19:51] <lordievader> Z_God: Oehh, would that be the cause?
[19:52] <Z_God> lordievader: maybe but both man pages claim to only start pulseaudio when it's not started yet
[20:33] <kumeku> Üdv
[21:26] <Dat> So if I install 12.10 kubuntu could I do a do-release-upgrade to get to 14.10?
[21:30] <Dat> anyone?
[21:33] <genii> Dat: No, 12.10 is not a Long Term Support release, and neither will be 14.10  .. it IS possible to go directly from 12.04.3 to 14.04.1 after July 28 however, these are both LTS
[21:37] <genii> Caveat: It may be possible to go directly to development version of 14.10 with do-release-upgrade -d  from there since it's currently not released yet. Not sure from 12.10 though, would be more reliable from 14.04 or 13.10
[21:42] <Dat> gotcha
[21:50] <GermanMeat> Howdy
[21:53] <GermanMeat> Anyone else using Touch screen with Kubuntu?
[22:04] <GermanMeat> Wow... really?
[22:15] <GermanMeat> Anyoneelse using Touch screen with Kubuntu?
[22:36] <GermanMeat> Anyone else use Touchscreen with Kubuntu?
[23:42] <GermanMeat> Anyone else using touchscreen with Kubuntu


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[06:03] <nilg> My USB interface takes card2, I still have card1 with no id. There's probably something fishy about my system indeed, but it all works which is what matters, thanks for your swift response!
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