[08:30] <angel282> Jordan_U: no, because it's a dedicated server which I purchased over the net, but I already recovered the server back to 10.04 LTS, I am just trying to find the best way to upgrade the version
[08:30] <Hanan> is iptables enabled by default
[08:30] <Hanan> ?
[08:30] <angel282> Jordan_U: I must upgrade at least to higher version because I need to use some packages that not supported on 10.04 LTS
[08:31] <Jordan_U> angel282: I assume that the server is running under a virtual machine?
[08:31] <syn-ack> Hanan, What does sudo iptable -L tell you? :P
[08:31] <fr_> hello
[08:31] <syn-ack> iptables, too
[08:31] <sary> Hey
[08:32] <exalt> sary: yes but some things reacted differently, i spend a whole weekend getting it to boot. last evening it dit still not react all like they say in the UEFIBooting page but it did boot
[08:32] <angel282> Jordan_U: I think so, but I am not sure, I've purchased this package - http://iweb.com/smart-server-hosting/overview
[08:32] <abhijitrucks> how do i change mouse pointers in ubuntu 12.04?
[08:32] <exalt> sary: mind that its written before ubuntu 12.04
[08:33] <sary> exalt: right .
[08:33] <Hanan> syn-ack: i have donwloaded gfuw (graphic app for the firewall configuration), and there it seems that the firewall is off, although i can see the tables with iptables -L
[08:35] <angel282> Jordan_U: I think it using some virtualization service named "Xen"
[08:35] <Jordan_U> angel282: Since it uses Xen, there is a chance (depending on how it's configured) that you can't upgrade the kernel itself, because the kernel is loaded by the virtual machine software separately from the VM image, and thus can't be changed from within the VM. If that's the case, any upgrade not following your hosting service's procedures will probably fail.
[08:36] <exalt> sary: i think the problem is dat the ubuntu installer tries to install an uefi grub but fails somewhere, and therefore the tutorial UEFIBooting reacts differently
[08:36] <h_v> Anyone come across an issue where a user cannot log in? It's credentials are fine as I can su to it but it won't log in, just returns to the log in screen without error. I've removed Xauthority and chowned it back to itself but still no luck.
[08:36] <angel282> Jordan_U: in the upgrade process I was asked if I want to upgrade the grub and I said no, can this be the cause why the server not booting up after the upgrade?
[08:37] <Jordan_U> angel282: It's possible. What was the exact message?
[08:37] <sary> exalt: i have never tried install ubuntu with uefi boot mode , i hope someone know something about .. as search result didn't say much regarding the errors you get .
[08:37] <syn-ack> Hanan, The Firewall ships disabled out of the box.
[08:38] <angel282> Jordan_U: I don't have it right now, but let me try to upgrade again .. and I will be able to write you the message content
[08:38] <Hanan> syn-ack: how can i know that it is diabled (from the CLI) ? since i can see it loaded as module ?
[08:38] <bohemian9485> h_v: came across exact problem before, while giving wireshark non-root user access, bump into an error and all my user accounts cannot login to the desktop, had to re-install the 12.04
[08:38] <abhijitrucks> hey! how do i change mouse pointers? is there a gui app?
[08:38] <syn-ack> Hanan, use ufw
[08:38] <h_v> bohemian9485: so never got it working?
[08:39] <syn-ack> Hanan, gufw is simply a front end to ufw, which in and of it's self is a frontend to iptables.
[08:39] <bohemian9485> h_v: no
[08:40] <h_v> bohemian9485: hmmm surely it's just a permission error or something somewhere but nothing obvious that I can find.
[08:40] <Jordan_U> angel282: It looks like iweb has a live chat support on their website. Have you tried that yet?
[08:40] <sary> exalt: on a desktop or a laptop , and what make and model , if known.
[08:41] <angel282> Jordan_U: I've started the upgrade process in the meanwhile I will try to ask them on the chat if there is some iweb tutorial etc..
[08:41] <bohemian9485> h_v: seems like it, the error occured while I was setting permission for wireshark
[08:42] <Jordan_U> angel282: Ask them if they support their Ubuntu configuration being upgraded.
[08:42] <sary> exalt: a clue / hint  .. http://askubuntu.com/questions/130392/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-uefi-enabled-hp-pavilion-hpe-h9-tower
[08:45] <angel282> Jordan_U: by the way another thing if I edit the /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal; so the upgrade working and I can upgrade to 11.04 (I think) and it working server working after reboot, but when I try to run another upgrade to 12.04 so I have the same problem server not responding to ssh after reboot
[08:46] <VictorCL> hi
[08:47] <VictorCL> is anyone having problem with last firefox update?
[08:47] <VictorCL> mine keeps getting stuck .. and using a lot of cpu
[08:48] <farsight> restart?
[08:49] <VictorCL> I restarte several times
[08:49] <kutty> how to insatll synaptic package manager
[08:49] <sary> kutty: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[08:50] <kutty> thank u
[08:50] <sary> VictorCL: could be a script , extension , plugin .. cuasing this .. see if it makes a differ after disablaing any of those.
[08:51] <syn-ack> farsight, what would a restart accomplish? This isn't windows.
[08:51] <nina666> hi... my laptop temperature goes really high.. i've tried many things: 1-installed AMD proprietary driver 2-followed this http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/linux-kernel-power-issue-fix.html  and 3- i've configured compiz not to Sync to VBlank... still, my laptop gets hot. what should I do? (p.s. i only have this problem with ubuntu OS)
[08:52] <angel282> Jordan_U: here is the grub message - A new version of configuration file /etc/default/grub is available, but the version installed currently has been locally modified.
[08:52] <Aritz> Hi, im interested in monitoring UDP buffer and queueing in Linux, any good reference?
[08:52] <Jordan_U> angel282: Can you pastebin your current /etc/default/grub ?
[08:56] <Jordan_U> angel282: Sorry, I need to leave now. I doubt that that is what caused your problem, but especiall since you have backups I would try using the package maintainter's version this time.
[08:56] <angel282> Jordan_U:  http://pastebin.com/byreC623
[08:56] <himcesjf> nina666: Could you pastebin output of < lspci -v > command?
[08:59] <nina666> himcesjf, here's the result: http://pastebin.com/tDERyvvU
[08:59] <eloystebam> speak spanish?
[08:59] <ikonia> !es | eloystebam
[09:08] <firas> does muon use sources.list like software center?
[09:08] <sary> nina666: does this overheating occuers on star-up - while running specific apps , or all the time ..
[09:08] <sary> firas: muon !
[09:08] <BlouBlou> firas: yes
[09:09] <nina666> sary, usually starts few minutes after start-up.
[09:09] <firas> ok, where do they bring the screenshots from? are they from the repository?
[09:10] <jpds> firas: screenshots.debian.net
[09:10] <firas> jpds: is there a way to change that?
[09:11] <jpds> firas: Of course, use the source.
[09:11] <firas> jpds: which source??
[09:11] <jpds> firas: apt-get source software-center
[09:12] <firas> jpds: no simpler way?? I don't know PyGtk
[09:13] <jpds> firas: No.
[09:13] <jpds> firas: But doing: cd software-center-5.2.1; grep -R screenshots * --- showed me everything I need to know.
[09:13] <jrib> firas: what would you change it to anyway?
[09:14] <firas> jpds: for like make an app on its own repository, but with a screenshot on softwa<re
[09:14] <firas> jpds: for like make an app on its own repository, but with a screenshot on software center
[09:15] <firas> jpds: same way for muon??
[09:15] <eutheria> hi, for some reason all my .yyy hidden files are showing in dialog boxes,  i am sure there is a way to hide them, anyone know how?
[09:15] <jrib> eutheria: ctrl-h i think?  You can probably right click -> show hidden files
[09:16] <eutheria> thanks jrib, that is a new one on me!
[09:16] <eutheria> that worked!
[09:16] <eutheria> i wonder, maybe i hit ctrl+h to show them
[09:16] <eutheria> there should be an toggle button to show/hide them
[09:17] <jrib> eutheria: isn't it in the right click menu?
[09:17] <Kriz1> hi guys, im on a fresh copy of ubuntu running X and Gnome, when i try to open "Home folder" which im guesing would be nautilus, it flashes up and then closes again, any idea how to fix this?
[09:17] <eutheria> jrib, i didn't see, i just started happening after i upgraded
[09:17] <fidel_> Kriz1: how do you start it right now? (nautilus)
[09:18] <eutheria> oh wait, does it enable if you navigate to a hidden director?
[09:18] <Kriz1> fidel_, by clicking "home folder" from the places menu
[09:18] <Wizard> Good morning.
[09:18] <fidel_> Kriz1: personaly i would just test what happens if you start nautilus from cli
[09:18] <Kriz1> fidel_, good idea
[09:18] <sary> nina666: what prossesor , do you hear the fan or at least feel the fan working through the vent.
[09:19] <eutheria> jrib, the only point was, the control over it should probably be more visible,
[09:19] <Kriz1> fidel_, http://pastebin.com/84GySVLv
[09:19] <jrib> eutheria: I understand
[09:19] <jrib> eutheria: in nautilus it's also in the view menu
[09:19] <nina666> sary, how should I find that out...? :d
[09:19] <jrib> eutheria: but I understand your point about the settings visibility in file selection dialogs
[09:20] <nina666> sary, let me check if i get your question right. you are asking me which of 4 processors i feel the heat on?
[09:20] <Kriz1> fidel_, if i run it with --no-desktop it works
[09:20] <Kriz1> that will do for now, i just needed to see if an image was there, thanks for the tip about the CLI fidel_
[09:21] <fidel_> np
[09:21] <eutheria> jrib, as i didn't notice i had turned it on i assumed it was a bug, probably that was my fault for making that assumption as i am used to things not working as expected
[09:21] <fidel_> consider checking the error-message via google or similar. Several forum entries on the first look discussing that topic
[09:21] <sary> nina666: 4 processors !
[09:21] <nina666> sary: the cores i mean..
[09:22] <nina666> sary, then i think i didnt get ur question
[09:23] <sary> less /proc/cpuinfo  !
[09:26] <sary> ah , there is tool to show Temperatures for each core ..
[09:27] <sary> am i lag!
[09:27] <himcesjf> sary: sensors command?
[09:27] <sary> is it sensors .. lemme check
[09:28] <sary> am not quite sure ..
[09:28] <JPeterso2> dpkg list all available packages?
[09:29] <firas> how to change ubuntu software center screenshot repository
[09:30] <himcesjf> sary: Installing lmsensors package, then running sensors-detect can list temperature on sensors command
[09:31] <sary> himcesjf: thats right , nina666 the tool is sensors it would show something like the picture here http://askubuntu.com/questions/93475/temperature-sensors-doesnt-show-two-of-my-cores
[09:31] <jrib> firas: didn't you just get an answer to that?
[09:31] <sary> himcesjf: Great , thank you .. thats for nina666 .
[09:31] <randulo> talking about linux on a Google Plus Hangout
[09:32] <firas> jrib: i know from the source, but which file?
[09:32] <himcesjf> lm-sensors*
[09:32] <jrib> firas: why are you wanting to do this?  Then you likely won't have screenshots for most
[09:33] <firas> jrib: to have screenshots for own repsitory
[09:33] <sary> nina666: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[09:34] <nina666> sary, thanks, i installed it using pckg manager. now it pops up this: should the hddtemp deamon be started at boot?
[09:36] <sary> nina666: i have no idea , as i neve used it .. you are running ubuntu 12.04 right
[09:36] <nina666> sary, yes
[09:37] <sary> nina666: then follow the link.
[09:37] <nina666> sary ok
[09:39] <nina666> ok i have temp1 and temp2 both = 65C
[09:39] <nina666> sary, ok i have temp1 and temp2 both = 65C
[09:41] <sary> nina666: this overheating is bad as it could damag the CPU and motherboard ..
[09:41] <Guest36830> i got a question how do i unistall apps without crashing gnome ? I been trying all day to do it but evolution is stuck to gnome
[09:41] <nina666> sary, what should i do?
[09:41] <sary> nina666: is it an AMD or Intel CPU ..
[09:41] <nina666> sary, intel
[09:41] <nina666> sary, intel i3
[09:42] <Guest36830> if i get evolution unistall my system goes down and this is the 3rd time i have install it back into my pc :(
[09:43] <sary> am not sure about inel , but AMD CPUs should be at or below 70C they will start causing errors .. lemme check about intel
[09:46] <nina666> sary thanks.
[09:47] <Guest36830> can anyone help me??? Or is that a question for gnome not ubuntu?
[09:47] <Guest36830> is there a gnome chat?
[09:47] <gry> Guest36830: what's up?
[09:48] <rhorstkoetter> I'm looking forward building a bare bones ubuntu install to use as a hypervisor for virtualbox (i.e. poor man's client virtualization) and I'm a bit confused about the different install options.
[09:48] <szal> !patience | Guest36830
[09:48] <rhorstkoetter> server installs an optimized kernel? optimized for what?
[09:48] <rhorstkoetter> jeos installs a kernel optimized for a linux guest vm > not what I need
[09:49] <Guest36830> i am trying to unistall apps like evolution and when i do so gnome crashes cause it dependent on it same with some games
[09:49] <rhorstkoetter> ubuntu minimal (from alternate install) leads to ubuntu desktop without desktop so to speak
[09:49] <rhorstkoetter> and last but not least there is mini.iso that seems to be desktop iso grabbing packages online
[09:49] <stevegjacobs> join #openstack
[09:49] <pfifo> I notice my programs start a little slower on 12.04 than on 10.04, im using disk encryption, with ext2 file system.
[09:49] <Guest36830> i am too new and I tried that and end up with some odd screen with white writing and back lol
[09:50] <rhorstkoetter> is that correct so far?
[09:50] <nina666> sary, someone says below 70C is ok. but my concern is, when I used windows previously on this, it never got heated up this much. as well as once i installed backtrack as OS, and after installing proprietary drivers and following that post i mentioned the link at the begining, it never got heated up this much anymore... so this is something with ubuntu 12.04
[09:50] <gry> Guest36830: ok, gnome depends on evolution. Sorry, you can't uninstall it.
[09:51] <Guest36830> so gnome is not open source?
[09:51] <DarsVaeda> how do I get gimp to display in the launcher and tab-switch of unity?
[09:51] <Guest36830> :(
[09:51] <gry> Guest36830: yes it is
[09:51] <gry> Guest36830: it's open source
[09:51] <Guest36830> are they trying to become close source like windows why are they doing that with apps like games too?
[09:52] <Guest36830> i tried deleting games and same result gnome crashed :(
[09:52] <fidel_> Guest36830: who is they in the first place?
[09:52] <akem> nina666, you may try pcie_aspm=force in the grub boot command line
[09:52] <fidel_> Guest36830: i guess you need to understand the depencies-concept of your paket-management
[09:53] <gry> Guest36830: there are some applications that are required for gnome to function, evolution is one of them. Both Gnome and evolution are open source.
[09:53] <Guest36830> the gnome people the gnome big cheese
[09:53] <sary> nina666: i coudn't find any info regarding intel i3 CPU temp ..
[09:53] <sajanek> hello, i have a question about unattened installation and proceed file - how can i create multiple user accounts?
[09:53] <nina666> sary, http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110430064023AArRMpF
[09:53] <nina666> akem, done that
[09:53] <ferni> evolution is not required for gnome, just the evolutio data server
[09:54] <sary> nina666: aha , then it could be sometning to do with the kernel chiped with 12.04 .. might find a kernel boot option to set in GRUB.
[09:54] <Guest36830> oh is KDE like gnome and has to have games and evolution to work is there another desktop i can use instead of gnome that more open source like android and less like windows?
[09:55] <nina666> sary, yes and i have already done this: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/linux-kernel-power-issue-fix.html
[09:55] <sary> nina666: also , just food for a thoguht .. a BIOS upgrade might be required , or if there is a fan setting in your BIOS .
[09:55] <ferni> aspm is fixed in 12.04
[09:55] <nina666> sary, oh ok... that is one thing i never thought about ! :)
[09:56] <ferni> see lspci -vv |grep ASPM
[09:56] <sary> nina666: alright , let me see which option/s you tried ..
[09:56] <fidel_> Guest36830: you are still misinterpreting the closed vs open source topic i guess
[09:56] <gry> Guest36830: lxde kde gnome xfce are few desktop environments
[09:56] <nina666> ferni, so you mean we shouldnt set it to pcie_aspm=force?
[09:57] <gry> Guest36830: you can find descriptions in software center and that would be 'lubuntu-desktop' 'xubuntu-desktop' 'kubuntu-desktop' 'ubuntu-desktop' (gnome) to give them a try
[09:57] <fidel_> Guest36830: in case you have > 1 desktop-environment installed you can choose them at at login screen
[09:58] <sary> nina666: so you've tried the pcie_aspm=force option ..
[09:58] <sary> gryyyyyyyy , good to see you mate :)
[09:58] <gry> hi sary
[10:00] <Guest36830> gry with is more open to customization desktops like android where you can do anything you like on it and add apps you want and delete those you don't want and less like apple where you are stuck with evolution or IE like apps?
[10:00] <sk> hi, i'm trying to install rt61 drivers for my network and i get errors can some1 help me?
[10:00] <fidel_> Guest36830: you can install and remove most apps (in case there arent needed based on depencies) ignoring what you use gnome/xfce/whatever else
[10:01] <gry> Guest36830: concepts 'custimizable' and 'open source' aren't always directly related, but if you find gnome lacking you can try one of the other desktop environments, or just ask here if you have specific items you find difficult or impossible to customise
[10:01] <sajanek> hello, i have a question about unattened installation and proceed file - how can i create multiple user accounts?
[10:01] <ezenolly> hello any one here
[10:02] <fidel_> !ask > ezenolly
[10:02] <Guest36830> what desktop would you advise me to use that i can change as i please ....?
[10:02] <sk> fidel: hi could u help me out with rt61 network driver?
[10:03] <fidel_> Guest36830: as we dont know what you want to customize it will be hard to advice you one
[10:03] <sary> nina666: Actually , looking at some forums other people have complained about overheating when upgrading to Windows 7 as well. There were BIOS updates to fix this But if Windows 7 was having problems with it then there was something wrong in the BIOS .. but again as you stated the heat did not occuerred while running other distro.
[10:03] <fidel_> sk: ask the channel
[10:03] <fidel_> Guest36830: it might help if you describe your issues you might have right now with whatever desktop-environment you might using right now
[10:03] <Lym> Hello everyone. Does anyone know of any good graphical tools for managing your running services? the commandline is being difficult...
[10:04] <sk> fidel: ask what?
[10:04] <Lym> (using 12.04)
[10:04] <fidel_> sk: dont randomly ask single persons inhere - ask the channel for support.
[10:04] <sk> guys, any1 can help me with installing rt61 drivers?
[10:04] <fidel_> ;)
[10:05] <sk> fidel: i did, no1 answered :D
[10:05] <derpathon>  /msg #ubuntu = voayger xfce
[10:05] <fidel_> !elaborate > sk
[10:06] <Guest20643> well out all the one what desktop is more like android and less like windows or apple like where i can just tick to look and feel like i want it ....i just got a PM telling me to try arch distro
[10:07] <Guest20643> is that distro more customizable ?
[10:07] <LjL> Guest20643: ask in the #archlinux channel, or in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[10:07] <Guest20643> oh crap nevermind i am new to linux i cant handle arch :(
[10:07] <sk> i downloaded rt61 driver unpacked it and when i procced to compile files going in rt61/Modules i get make[1]: Wejście do katalogu `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.38-15-generic'   Building modules, stage 2.   MODPOST 0 modules make[1]: Opuszczenie katalogu `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.38-15-generic' rt61.ko failed to build! make: *** [module] Błąd 1
[10:07] <fidel_> Guest20643: in case you consider yourself a starter with linux - i wouldnt advice you to use arch - but thats just my feeling
[10:08] <fidel_> Guest20643: and you still dont get the concept of desktop-environments vs distris
[10:08] <Guest20643> true.....
[10:08] <fidel_> you can i.e. install gnome again in arch - so you end up with the same or at least similar desktop-environment
[10:08] <MarKsaitis> why on earth aptitude search openerp doesnt find it? official 12.04 repos? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/openerp-server
[10:08] <MarKsaitis> HELP
[10:09] <Guest20643> well i am new....if you want you could tech me the difference
[10:09] <fidel_> Guest20643: how about just testing the mentioned desktop-environments and test them
[10:10] <Guest20643> ok i will try them all and see whats the one that suit me for and feels more open to changes and less restrictive
[10:10] <sk> so any one knows how to fix that problem ? i did instal kernel headers :(
[10:10] <jpds> MarKsaitis: It was deleted: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openerp-server/+publishinghistory
[10:10] <MarKsaitis> why?
[10:11] <MarKsaitis> so how do I install it now?
[10:11] <jpds> MarKsaitis: Click the little arrow on the left to see.
[10:11] <sary> MarKsaitis: its either got droped , or its under unofficial repo , or under a different name.
[10:11] <MarKsaitis> jpds, so if it was outdated, why isnt there an UpdAted version? Whats so magical here?
[10:11] <gry> Guest20643: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/214930/6_alternative_ubuntu_desktops_worth_trying.html
[10:12] <jpds> MarKsaitis: Well, Debian removed it.
[10:12] <MarKsaitis> omg, so hard with all this soft. I have multiple soft I wanna use, some of them are not in repos, some of them are in repos but nobody recommends them, some of threm u always do manual installs and miss the updates.... what is the point of packaging after all then
[10:13] <jpds> MarKsaitis: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=633587
[10:15] <MarKsaitis> jpds, sad. I wanted to use official repos so much.... what are these devs thinking with their own custom and even more different crap
[10:17] <derpathon> err
[10:17] <hebe> hebe
[10:18] <oCean> MarKsaitis: why would you complain about the ubuntu devs? With only so many developers, it is not possible to package/maintain *every* piece of software. Why don't you contact the OpenERP maintainers and ask them to provide a proper ubuntu/debian repository?
[10:19] <MarKsaitis> oCean, didnt complain on ubuntu devs. I complain about all the others.... why dont they use standard stuff
[10:20] <suborbital> i got a f*ing complaint
[10:20] <oCean> suborbital: control your language here, please
[10:20] <gry> suborbital: shoot
[10:20] <oCean> suborbital: if you have to obfuscate your words, don't use them at all
[10:20] <suborbital> we all know what I mean
[10:21] <suborbital> dont we ladies?
[10:21] <oCean> suborbital: also, this channel is for support. If you just came to rant, find an other place to do so
[10:21] <gry> suborbital: not what the complaint itself is, yet :)
[10:21] <suborbital> no legitimate
[10:21] <Guest20643> Thanks for the article
[10:21] <oCean> MarKsaitis: eh.. I have no idea how to answer that, I don't think you really understand how software development and maintanance works.
[10:21] <suborbital> he never gave me a chance to explain myself lol
[10:21] <scriptwarlock> does any have an idea why some apps suddenly changes/transfers to other workspace in unity, using 12.04
[10:21] <gry> suborbital: (it's a pretty heavy traffic channel; they like when you just ask a question in one line to avoid confusion)
[10:21] <belyle> Allo guys, I am having some issues with my vsftpd, I am on 12.04 and I used aptitude install vsftpd, my probem is that it does not create the /etc/vsftpd.conf file, is there a way I can remove it in totality and then re-install the package with all the proper files?
[10:22] <gry> ^^ like this :)
[10:22] <sary> belyle: purge it
[10:22] <bobweaver> belyle,  you have used the --purge option ? like sudo apt-get --purge remove foo
[10:23] <Guest20643> I think I may be KDE type of guy :) thanks guys I found my flavor :) and I can change it in any way i want :)
[10:23] <sary> right , that command bobweaver posted.
[10:23] <belyle> sorry, pretty new to linux, only decided last week I want a all in one server, so not familiar with all the options, I will try it quickly, thanks
[10:24] <MarKsaitis> i do understand. It sucks a bit
[10:24] <scriptwarlock> does any have an idea why some apps suddenly changes/transfers to other workspace in unity, using 12.04
[10:24] <derpabyte> weird.
[10:24] <bobweaver> belyle,  you can see most options in a man (manual) page by like this |  man apt-get
[10:25] <derpabyte> here i am trying to solve the most complex st#ff and
[10:25] <sary> belyle: for the package manager , see man dpkg , and man apt-get .. very informative.
[10:25] <derpabyte> lol - i think woman like apt-get man lol
[10:25] <bobweaver> belyle,  also we where all new at one point :)  thanks for chosen ubuntu I think that you will like it.
[10:26] <oCean> derpabyte: please stay on topic, or use #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chit chat
[10:26] <belyle> Genius!
[10:26] <derpadroid> oops my bad
[10:26] <Hotwired> u/wc
[10:26] <belyle> It worked, thanks a million
[10:26] <sary> derpabyte: what are issues you having ..
[10:26] <Guest20643> too bad i like gnome :( but i guess is off to KDE for me I am new too i been using linux oh about 3 months now
[10:26] <belyle> I imagine I will be spending some time over here :)
[10:26] <sary> err,
[10:26] <bobweaver> belyle,  no thank you and once again thanks for chosen ubuntu :)
[10:27] <Wizard> Whoa ;]
[10:27] <belyle> I've been stuck trying to sort that out for the last 12 hours
[10:27] <Wizard> What a kind channel.
[10:27] <derpadroid> anyway! why is calm wm manager apart of ubuntu's base OS?
[10:27] <derpadroid> not*
[10:27] <Wizard> Calm what?
[10:27] <derpadroid> calm wm
[10:27] <bobweaver> belyle,  there is always some one here and there are other channels and other things also pm me if you like and I could give you all sorts of links and stuff
[10:28] <scriptwarlock> guess i have to bring the issue to unity guys do any of you knows the channel for unity? need to ask some help
[10:28] <Wizard> I don't know what it is.
[10:28] <derpadroid> its OpenBSD remix of aewm i think
[10:28] <belyle> Pretty decent of you, thanks bobweaver
[10:28] <derpadroid> anyway
[10:28] <NimeshNeema> Wizard: http://unity.ubuntu.com/
[10:28] <derpadroid> it runs on about 500k
[10:28] <belyle> ok, be back in a jiffy, want to see if I can stop and start the service quickly
[10:28] <derpadroid> less then a mb
[10:29] <CuteKitty> hi, everyone. i downloaded the ubuntu 12.04 iso and tried to run it live. I got the Ubuntu 5-white-dot screen, but then it just became black. pls help. :-(
[10:29] <derpadroid> and can fast swith to any desktop you want with a flickof a finger
[10:29] <derpadroid> so is it there yet?
[10:29] <bobweaver> scriptwarlock,  what are you doing with unity ? making a lens or a scope ?
[10:29] <sary> CuteKitty: have you md5 test the iso ..
[10:29] <johnm> derpadroid: it's not beein updated in 7 years, it was only ever a small hoby project, and it has a tiny userbase. It was based off evilwm, which I think may exist in a PPA, and there are also many small window managers out there too. Id suggest if you think it should exist, start up a PPA and package it - it'll be easy, it's unlikely to need much maintainence ;)
[10:29] <Guest20643> how do i go to mint channel i think i found a new home I like mint kde how do i use xchat to get to mint channel?
[10:29] <Wizard> NimeshNeema, ?
[10:29] <scriptwarlock> bobweaver, got strange issues on unity
[10:29] <derpadroid> lo johnm subscribe @john to openbsd ports
[10:29] <CuteKitty> sary, should i md5 test the iso on my hard drive or on the usb stick?
[10:30] <derpadroid> it was updated afew weeks ago
[10:30] <scriptwarlock> bobweaver, a sudden transfer of some apps to other workspace is strange
[10:30] <derpadroid> so was tmux
[10:30] <NimeshNeema> Wizard: sorry. it was by mistake
[10:30] <CuteKitty> oh, it's not an iso file anymore on usb stick. sary, i'll do md5test on hard drive
[10:30] <Wizard> NimeshNeema, no problem :)
[10:30] <johnm> derpadroid: is it still being maintained by Marius, because he's npot said or posted anytinga bout it in years
[10:30] <sary> CuteKitty: you should md5 test the iso before burnning the iso to the usb stick or other media.
[10:30] <bobweaver> scriptwarlock,  is that unity or compiz or what ?
[10:30] <johnm> derpadroid: none the less, my point stands. Why don't you start a PPA for it?
[10:30] <derpadroid> pssh too bad for him
[10:30] <derpadroid> sure sure
[10:30] <derpadroid> conky and all
[10:31] <johnm> derpadroid: You know I'm talking about Marius, the original author of calmwm right?
[10:31] <johnm> which is why I asked.
[10:31] <derpadroid> nope. didnt know.
[10:31] <CuteKitty> sary, md5 test is OK
[10:31] <bobweaver> scriptwarlock,  if a % of the window like 90% is in one area it might go to that area not sure thou testing....
[10:31] <bobweaver> yup that is it ^^ scriptwarlock
[10:32] <derpadroid> anyway lets get calm wm in the ubuntu tree
[10:32] <derpadroid> w/ OpenBSD of course
[10:32] <scriptwarlock> bobweaver, yeah thats an issue of mixxx but google chrome in a minimize is also same?
[10:32] <johnm> then please mind your sarcastic responses, I'm attempting to help. There are a lot of epople in here seemingly complaining that the world on a stick doesnt exist in the repos, yet every tool required to make it so exists. It wouldn't be hard for you to make a start, start a ppa, log a bug, request for it to be accepted
[10:33] <derpadroid> man - all you people pissed johnm off.
[10:33] <johnm> if you really want it in the repo, I suggest you start doing so yourself and give people a reason to consider it. Also, I don't think you'll see OBSD in the repo ;)
[10:33] <belyle> Righty-O :) vsftpd is up and running and anonymous can log in.  Is it good practice to change it so that local users can log in, or should I keep local users and ftp seperate?
[10:33] <sary> CuteKitty: from the livecd menu .. you see them F-keys on the bottom , right.
[10:33] <derpadroid> bet john
[10:33] <derpadroid> bet
[10:34] <derpadroid> ill take you up on that offr matter factg
[10:34] <derpadroid> ask OpenSSh if he will take your bet
[10:34] <bobweaver> johnm,  +1 pushing with bzr is a great thing to do :)
[10:34] <derpadroid> im sure he wont mind.
[10:34] <derpadroid> you bein johnm and all
[10:34] <LjL> let's keep the bickering to a minimum
[10:35] <johnm> derpadroid: I will nto ask openssh, because openssh is a subset of obsd and it isn't likel to give me a response. Please stop trolling now, it's gettnig tiresome.
[10:35] <CuteKitty> sary, i don't reach the livecd menu
[10:35] <CuteKitty> i get the ubuntu logo with the 5 or 6 white dots on one line
[10:35] <derpadroid> its already there.
[10:36] <derpadroid> peek a boo
[10:36] <dury> hi there channel :-)
[10:36] <belyle> allo dury
[10:36] <dury> belyle: hi there .)
[10:36] <Wizard> oCean, why did you ban him?
[10:37] <sary> CuteKitty: well , again .. are you sure you md5 test the iso and the hashs match !
[10:37] <johnm> Wizard: frankly, he would deserve a ban. He was here shortly prior as suborbital and he trolled then as well.
[10:37] <sary> !md5sum > CuteKitty
[10:37] <dury> what a difference between  11.04 and 11.10... geeesss
[10:38] <Wizard> johnm, :)
[10:38] <oCean> Wizard: there was no ban, I muted him because he continued with offtopic and nonsense remarks
[10:38] <Wizard> ;)
[10:38] <Wizard> Nice, I like that.
[10:39] <oCean> Wizard: anyway, if you wish to discuss such things, don't do that here in the channel. There is #ubuntu-ops for that
[10:39] <Wizard> OK.
[10:39] <sary> CuteKitty: isn't that ubuntu logo with the 5 or 6 white dots on one line
[10:40] <sary> CuteKitty: doesn't that shows on th login screen!
[10:40] <dury> keyboard shortcuts changes from 11.10 release in gnome classic
[10:40] <dury> gnome classic it's different in release 11.10
[10:41] <scorpiorian83> hi to all. i'm totally new to linux so pls bear with me. i just installed j2se jdk and netbeans. it works for java applications but not for j2me. can someone pls help me? it gives me a no such file exception.
[10:42] <CuteKitty> sary, yes, i'm sure md5 number are exactly what is on http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/MD5SUMS.
[10:42] <CuteKitty> sary, i see the ubuntu logo with the 5-6 dots but there's n,o login screen.
[10:43] <dury> is it gnome classic in release 11.10 gnome3?
[10:43] <Wizard> scorpiorian83, This is more suitable for #java. As far as I remember you need aditional jars to start with j2me.
[10:44] <eb_> hi, is it possible to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 with a live cd? TIA
[10:44] <scorpiorian83> oh ok tks wizard, i will ask over there as well.
[10:44] <scorpiorian83> errr...can't join the channel. invite only man.
[10:44] <gry> eb_: Hello. This is an interesting question. Can I wonder why you are doing that, please?
[10:45] <dury> eb_: yeah, of course... I guess
[10:45] <Wizard> eb_, Definitely.
[10:45] <eb_> gry: / is not big enough to download all needed packages
[10:45] <eb_> Wizard: ok thanks
[10:45] <Wizard> eb_, try doing apt-cache clean at first.
[10:45] <eb_> Wizard: did that :)
[10:45] <gry> scorpiorian83: Channel ##java is blocking unidentified users (+r) and you are not identified  (see !register)
[10:46] <scorpiorian83> ok tks.
[10:46] <scorpiorian83> !register
[10:46] <GantsA> hello, someone can help me with bash commands?
[10:46] <gry> GantsA: Just ask. :-)
[10:46] <sk1special> cutekitty; were you trying to setup dual screens? it like changed my settings and showed the second screen on both ( just the logo ) i just restarted a few times n it fixed it..
[10:46] <sary> CuteKitty: am a bi counfused ..
[10:46] <dury> Wizard: keyboard shorcuts in classic gnome under 11.10 release?
[10:46] <GantsA> i want to input the same text in all files of a folder, how i can do that?
[10:47] <sk1special> idk shiz about ubuntu..but if theres a safe mode..maybe you can change the vid settings back to default like that..if its some issue like that.
[10:47] <Wizard> dury, What? :)
[10:47] <GantsA> all files are empty
[10:47] <eb_> thanks for the super fast help guys, see you
[10:47] <Wizard> GantsA, for i in *;do echo "Your text" > $i;done
[10:48] <dury> Wizard: keyboard shortcuts in classic gnome under 11.10 release?, sorry
[10:48] <GantsA> ok, thank u, wizard, i will try that
[10:48] <CuteKitty> sk1special: i have'nt tried to setup anything. I'm just trying to boot from the Live USB stick.
[10:48] <BaconAttack_> hey guys, is there anyway to install ubuntu 12.04 without unity? kinda like the old interface back in the 10.xx releases
[10:48] <CuteKitty> sary, what's confusing you?
[10:48] <Wizard> GantsA, Read Advanced Bash Scripting for further tricks.
[10:49] <Wizard> BaconAttack_, You can choose derivative like Xubuntu or Kubuntu or install with Unity and than add Gnome Fallback session.
[10:49] <GantsA> thanks, wizard, i tried, but i know almost nothing about bash script, and i got confused about simple things
[10:49] <Wizard> GantsA, Read ABS then.
[10:49] <GantsA> i will try to make the script and see if evrything runs ok
[10:50] <sary> CuteKitty: as to what point you get stuck , aslo do you happen to have any external devices attached to the machine.
[10:50] <Wizard> GantsA, It's a really nice tutorial, it starts from basics.
[10:50] <dury> Wizard: keyboard shortcuts for the gnome desktop in 11.10 release
[10:50] <sk1special> cutekitty; ah *shrug* just a sug. maybe start it with no gui then re add it / turn it on through command line? other than that good luck :]
[10:50] <CuteKitty> sary, nothing attached except my Live USB stick.
[10:50] <GantsA> where i can read it?
[10:50] <GantsA> i will need to learn more commands for more advanced things soon
[10:50] <CuteKitty> sary, here's what i see: black screen, then white ubuntu words in center, with 5 or 6 dots underneeath
[10:50] <Wizard> GantsA, Google for it, it's available for free.
[10:50] <CuteKitty> then black screen
[10:51] <CuteKitty> then after 3 minutes, sary, i stop it.
[10:51] <CuteKitty> sary, i reboot after seeing black screen for 3-5 mintuse
[10:51] <BaconAttack_> Wizard, Right now i have it running on xubuntu but it runs a little quirky. for some reason it just loses its permissions to write files anywhere. I tried ubuntu 11.10 and unity just made my machine run way too sluggish. is the fallback session something that is just as is says, a fallback, or can it be used for daily tasks?
[10:51] <slyborg> Hi, I've just got a toshiba laptop, installed 12.04 and everything works except when I run sudo lshw i apparently have a nickel cadmium battery, yet the website i bought it from, toshiba website and the user manual says its a lithium-ion, is it worth bringing this up with the store?
[10:51] <prosthetics> Hey guys, im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 . i have it installed on my two media centres fine, (though , server ver, then installed x server and rara.) anyhow, im trying to install desktop onto my desktop (core i7 2600 , 8gb ram, gtx580) and as soon as the installer gui loads, it just grinds to a halt, i cant even CTRL ALT F2 or somethign to get to logs and see whats up.. just wondering if theres naything known that anyone knows about with my listed har
[10:51] <Wizard> BaconAttack_, It is a Gnome session with panels, applets and so.
[10:52] <GantsA> WIzard, its this one? http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[10:52] <Wizard> GantsA, Yes.
[10:52] <BaconAttack_> thank you Wizard
[10:52] <Wizard> BaconAttack_, You're welcome.
[10:52] <GantsA> Wizard, tyvm
[10:52] <sary> CuteKitty: , that black screen is releaed to defferent area , X for one .. but on a live cd a bit strange .
[10:53] <Wizard> GantsA, you're welcome.
[10:53] <sary> CuteKitty: hold up ..
[10:53] <GantsA> Wizard, i will try to input the script now, see if evrything runs ok
[10:53] <scorpiorian83> i just installed ubuntu and am totally new to linux, i managed to install the gnome panel but i'm wondering how i can have icons on my desktop and quick launch bar on the top etc for frequently used apps.
[10:53] <Wizard> Remember it'll *overwite* all files, GantsA.
[10:53] <Wizard> Be sure to call it in proper directory.
[10:54] <panda^_^> who can help me in chinese ? i don't konw how to said in english
[10:54] <LjL> !cn | panda^_^
[10:55] <panda^_^> thx
[10:55] <slyborg> scorpiorian83: just go to the applications you want in the menu and click, drag + drop onto top panel, works for me
[10:56] <sary> CuteKitty: reboot while the usb stick atached, and after the BIOS screen keep pressing shift till GRUB menu shows up ..
[10:56] <slyborg> scorpiorian83: you can also do the same for files and folders
[10:57] <scorpiorian83> slyborg:  it works tks but i can't find the rubbish bin lol.
[10:57] <GantsA> Wizard, no problem, its exactly what i want
[10:57] <GantsA> Wizard, thanks, man, it worked perfectly
[10:57] <CuteKitty> sardy, you mean hold shift?
[10:57] <CuteKitty> sary, you mean hold shift?
[10:57] <CuteKitty> after i get grub menu, then what?
[10:58] <CuteKitty> sary, ^
[10:58] <sary> CuteKitty: correct.
[10:58] <dury> Wizard: have you got time for me?
[10:58] <sary> CuteKitty: then press 'e' ..
[10:58] <Wizard> dury, Sure.
[10:58] <slyborg> scorpiorian83: the rubbish bin is in the bottom right corner on the bottom panel or you can go to Places > Filesystem  and find the rubbish bin in the tabs on the left
[10:58] <prosthetics> anyone?
[10:58] <dury> Wizard: thanks mate
[10:58] <dury> Wizard: really appreciate it
[10:58] <sary> CuteKitty:  while at GRUB menu press e
[10:59] <Wizard> Just precise your problem.
[10:59] <slyborg> prosthetics: way out of my knowledge base
[10:59] <sary> CuteKitty: go to the line that start with  boot /linux ..
[10:59] <prosthetics> bummer, its just such a huge pain that i cant get any logs outta it :(
[10:59] <prosthetics> u know, hard to diagnose something when it just goes "working working working CRUNCH"
[10:59] <dury> Wizard: just to say that there is big difference between 11.04 and 11.10
[11:00] <slyborg> prosthetics: lol bet it is, i'd ask it again at another time and search for same probz on the forum, someone else has myb encountered it
[11:00] <dury> Wizard: I'm enthusiast of classic gnome
[11:00] <dury> Wizard: In 11.10 it changes so much
[11:01] <scorpiorian83> slyborg:  erm my bottom right panel is the workspace thingy where you can switch around. i do see rubbish bin on the left tabs in the window you mentioned but unable to drag it.
[11:01] <prosthetics> righto.. well , im off for now
[11:01] <dury> Wizard: In 11.10 release is it gnome3
[11:01] <dury> Wizard: even in release 12.04?
[11:02] <slyborg> scorpiorian83: that's odd, im running 10.04 on this comp + rubbish bin is to the right of workspace switcher, hang on
[11:02] <CuteKitty> sary, then what?
[11:02] <scorpiorian83> slyborg:  ok erm btw mine is the latest ubuntu plus i installed the gnome classic just in case. sorry for the trouble.
[11:03] <slyborg> scorpiorian83: if it isnt there in your modded 12.04 desktop, try right clicking on the bottom panel, clicking add to panel and in that list there should be the rubbish bin
[11:03] <supernova> hello
[11:03] <supernova> anyone knows hibernate here ??
[11:03] <supernova> if yes then please help me out
[11:05] <slyborg> supernova: from what ive seen skimming the forums, hibernate doesnt always work in linux, although theres gotta be a few solved threads on the forum on hibernation, id deffo give it a check
[11:05] <dury> Wizard: are u still there?
[11:05] <scorpiorian83> slyborg:  lol nopez doesn't work.
[11:05] <dury> Wizard: busy I guess, anyway no rush
[11:06] <Wizard> Yes, Gnome3 is default since 11.10
[11:06] <Wizard> Although you still can use "Classic" session.
[11:06] <dury> Wizard: great
[11:06] <antihero> Does anyone know where I can get ahold of the "crux" icon theme?
[11:06] <sary> CuteKitty: Excuse my awful connection .. any progress with you !
[11:06] <Wizard> dury, You have to install this: gnome-session-fallback
[11:07] <slyborg> scorpiorian83: thats weird, can you add other apps to the panels by right clicking?
[11:07] <Wizard> dury, Enjoy.
[11:07] <dury> Wizard: but the shortcuts changes
[11:07] <Wizard> Keyboard shortcuts?
[11:07] <dury> Wizard: yeah
[11:07] <scorpiorian83> slyborg:  erm nopez.
[11:07] <Wizard> If so, you have to adjust them to your prefs.
[11:07] <CuteKitty> i haven't rebootete yet. i am waiting to hear your answer: after i get to boot/linux line, then what?
[11:08] <scorpiorian83> slyborg:  don't worry about it at least you helped me with the quick launch bar i'm grateful enough lol.
[11:08] <dury> Wizard: keyboard preferences, may be?
[11:08] <Wizard> Yes.
[11:08] <Wizard> dury, "Shortcuts" tab.
[11:08] <Wizard> They are categorized and easy to find.
[11:09] <supernova> hello someone help me in installing a wifi reciever in my system
[11:09] <Wizard> I hope this solves your issue.
[11:09] <dury> Wizard: right, thanks indeed for your time... really appreciate it... cheers
[11:09] <Wizard> No problem.
[11:09] <supernova> it detects but i cant connect to any network which are in the list ??
[11:09] <slyborg> scorpiorian83: no probz, only thing i can suggest is check you're not missing any plugins and run over the guides to installing classic gnome in 12.04
[11:09] <dury> Wizard: see what I can do :-)
[11:09] <supernova> hey Wizard help me also
[11:10] <sary> CuteKitty: then , you add nomodeset after quiet splash , then boot to the modified grub entry by pressing Ctrl+X .
[11:10] <CuteKitty> sary, i haven't rebootete yet. i am waiting to hear your answer: after i get to boot/linux line, then what?
[11:10] <scorpiorian83> slyborg:  ok sure tks bro for your help.
[11:10] <dury> help supernova
[11:10] <supernova> i have searched everywhere for the issue
[11:10] <supernova> please ...
[11:10] <supernova> :(
[11:10] <Wizard> supernova, What does dmesg say?
[11:10] <supernova> hello
[11:11] <Wizard> This may be due to rfkill, I'm not familiar with that stuff.
[11:11] <Wizard> I choose my hardware wisely :P
[11:11] <mhs> Hello, is it possible to change the text 'Ubuntu Desktop' in the top left corner (when no application is in use) to something else? (Ubuntu 12.04)
[11:11] <supernova> i have a belkin usb receiver
[11:11] <koemski> to english native speakers: what sounds better in a job profile: "IT expert" or "IT specialist" ? Or rather something else?
[11:11] <fidel_> mhs: talking about unity?
[11:11] <supernova> it shows the wifi netwoks but it will keep on sonnecting
[11:11] <mhs> fidel_: Yes, I'm using unity.
[11:12] <Wizard> supernova, check dmesg.
[11:12] <TehSpede> koemski: specialist
[11:12] <Wizard> mhs, Probably not, it shows active window's title.
[11:12] <supernova> 18846.405064] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[11:12] <ejo> Hi.  I'm running Unity 3D (i checked to be sure), and I recently ran "unity --reset" to correct some problems I was having, which worked OK.  Now the one problem remaining is the launcher opacity does not change no matter what settings I make.  I have tried CCSM, MyUnity, and Ubuntu-Tweak.
[11:12] <dury> TehSpede: didn't know that either
[11:12] <supernova> this is the last line of the entire output
[11:13] <Wizard> supernova, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[11:13] <Wizard> This should tell us more.
[11:13] <dury> great for Linux
[11:13] <Wizard> mhs, You would have to download sources and change it in sources, than compile ;]
[11:13] <mhs> Wizard: Ah, no problem then. Cheers. :)
[11:13] <dury> the more I use the more I like it :-)
[11:14] <koemski> TehSpede: thx
[11:14] <supernova> i did that
[11:14] <supernova> and the command executed without anything
[11:14] <ejo> The utilities I've tried have been able to resize the launcher and change its hiding behavior as desired.  But it seems they are unable to get the launcher to change opacity no matter what I do.
[11:15] <supernova> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 08:86:3b:0f:d8:h9
[11:16] <Wizard> supernova, If it did, check dmesg again.
[11:16] <dury> supernova: are you using wifi for your internet connection?
[11:16] <Wizard> And check if ifconfig wlan0 shows wlan0 in "up" state.
[11:16] <supernova> [18846.405064] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[11:16] <supernova> same thing again
[11:16] <Wizard> Nah.
[11:16] <supernova> no
[11:16] <Guest65760> Hope someone is able to help here! I'm pulling out hair. Anybody know how to modify startup programs for an LTSP client image?
[11:17] <Guest65760> for example, a particular website?
[11:17] <Wizard> supernova, issue rfkill list
[11:17] <supernova> how to know the up state
[11:17] <supernova> rfkill ??
[11:17] <sk1special> ejo: in ubuntu tweak under unity settings should have launcher opacity option
[11:18] <Wizard> supernova, look at this: http://wklej.org/id/757109/
[11:18] <sk1special> tweaks/desktop/unity
[11:18] <ejo> sk1special: I'm saying I've tried that and it's not working.  The setting has no effect.
[11:19] <Wizard> supernova, This is the output on my Asus.
[11:19] <sk1special> ejo : ahh. then id say close it / reopen make sure the setting is saving / restart pc .. then idk :]
[11:20] <ejo> sk1special: strangely, everything else in Ubuntu Tweak works.  In fact it can set the opacity for the panel at the top of the screen.  But not for the launcher.
[11:20] <supernova> nothing
[11:20] <ejo> sk1special: I'll try another reboot... sometimes that just works
[11:20] <supernova> even i am using asus board
[11:20] <Wizard> supernova, Than I'm out of ideas.
[11:20] <sk1special> ejo: yeah id try restarting a couple times..and maybe resetting the opacity setting to default than readjusting
[11:21] <supernova> okk
[11:21] <Wizard> Sorry, not my area of expertise.
[11:21] <supernova> i have been using lan wire thats why
[11:21] <supernova> can find a way to fix this
[11:21] <administrator_> Anybody know how to customise startup programs for an LTSP image? I'm looking to set a particular website to start when the image pxe boots
[11:21] <Wizard> What does rfkill list output, supernova?
[11:23] <supernova> nothing
[11:23] <diverdude> Is there a program i can use to annotate PDF files? Like insert notes and highlights?
[11:23] <supernova> it didnt show anything
[11:24] <Wizard> supernova, Than I'm out of ideas.
[11:24] <GantsA> how can i create a text file with all *.dat of a folder, with filename1 in line 1, filename 2 in line 2... filename n in line m?
[11:24] <sary> supernova: and does sudo iwconfig , shows anything !
[11:25] <Wizard> GantsA, ls *.dat > file
[11:25] <supernova> wlan0     unassociated  Nickname:"rtl_wifi"
[11:25] <supernova> sary: wlan0     unassociated  Nickname:"rtl_wifi"
[11:25] <GantsA> Wizard, thanks again, it puts the names in different lines?
[11:26] <mal__> diverdude - there is no really good solution, but xournal works OK.
[11:26] <Wizard> GantsA, yeah
[11:26] <Wizard> you can use ls -1 to be sure.
[11:26] <sary> supernova: probable better to post the full outout , use paste bin service .. paste.ubuntu.com .. post us the link back here please :)
[11:26] <GantsA> ok, i will try it
[11:28] <krishnaveda> I am getting this error while trying to do sudo apt-get update -> http://pastie.org/3944231 any idea /
[11:28] <dury> thanks indeed channel... take cake all :-)
[11:29] <supernova> sary:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/998846/
[11:31] <supernova> sary did u read that ??
[11:32] <GantsA> Wizard, how i generate the list with "filename" instead of "filename.dat"?
[11:33] <Wizard> Why do I have the feeling I'm doing your homework for free? :P
[11:34] <sary> supernova: thanks , please post the output of  lshw -C network
[11:35] <GantsA> lol, u're doing a great job for me, instead =p
[11:36] <GantsA> but my work is nothing to do with bash or unix, i have to run tons of airfoils, im just trying to do it in a more smart way, but i dunno almost nothing about bash
[11:37] <supernova> http://paste.ubuntu.com/998855/
[11:37] <supernova> here is the output --->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/998855/
[11:40] <sary> supernova: thanks , now we need to see the output of lsmod to see if driver is loaded.
[11:40] <cutekitty> sary: i'm in Live now! thanks.
[11:41] <cutekitty> hi, everyone, Is a computer user's MAC address revealed to people/websites/companies on the internet?
[11:42] <tarzeau> cutekitty: no, that's only visible in the network you are
[11:42] <tarzeau> cutekitty: why?
[11:42] <kutty> how to create partition plz explain any one ?
[11:42] <cutekitty> tarzeau: for privacy.
[11:42] <cutekitty> tarzeau: thanks.
[11:42] <nrdb> hi, I have several desktop icons with a type 'link' they used to open 'FireFox' by default :-) ... but now open 'gedit' and load the pages html :-( ... how do I reset back to the correct action?
[11:42] <tarzeau> kutty: i usually use cfdisk for that
[11:42] <cutekitty> tarzeau: so, if someone downloads and installs a program, that program can't snoop and see what the MAC address is?
[11:42] <GantsA> Wizard, nevermind, all solved with good and old search and replace, lol. Ty anyway, u saved a lot of time from me
[11:43] <supernova> sary: this is the output for lsmod    http://paste.ubuntu.com/998868/
[11:43] <tarzeau> cutekitty: sure any software can look up what your mac address is if run on that computer
[11:43] <tarzeau> cutekitty: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address
[11:43] <sary> cutekitty: Great .
[11:43] <tarzeau> cutekitty: it's just a number, so what about privacy?
[11:44] <cutekitty> tarzeau: it's got to do with tracking.
[11:44] <kutty>  how to slove  FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive Press any key to exit cfdisk
[11:44] <cutekitty> how can we mask or temporarily change our MAC address?
[11:45] <tarzeau> cutekitty: ifconfig allows you to change a mac address
[11:46] <cutekitty> tarzeau: will changing the mac address while connected to WiFi internet cause an internet disconnection?
[11:46] <sk1special> whats a good paint program on here? super basic brush etc..like basic ms paint. not awesome photo landscape editor of the year deal lol
[11:47] <tarzeau> cutekitty: possibly, yes
[11:47] <zikalify> hi all, is there a website with unity extensions?
[11:47] <tarzeau> sk1special: grafx2
[11:47] <supernova> are you there Sary
[11:47] <cutekitty> tarzeau: how does someone change the MAC address in ifconfig?
[11:47] <sk1special> thank ya thank ya
[11:48] <supernova> use macchanger
[11:48] <cutekitty> supernova: talking to me?
[11:48] <codename-nos> ! damn i miss ubuntu !
[11:48] <sary> supernova: yes , i just didn't see the frimware line ..
[11:48] <supernova> u asked for changing the mac address
[11:49] <supernova> i pasted whatever was the output
[11:49] <cutekitty> supernova: yes i did. but you did'nt address me in your comment.
[11:49] <sary> supernova: wait , you used macshanger !
[11:49] <supernova> @sary
[11:49] <supernova> no no
[11:49] <cutekitty> supernova: are you talking to me or to sary?
[11:49] <supernova> that was for cutekitty
[11:49] <tarzeau> cutekitty: ifconfig {name of the interface} hw ether {new MAC address}
[11:49] <supernova> use macchanger was for cutekitty
[11:50] <supernova> all other msgs are for you sary
[11:50] <cutekitty> supernova:  how do i get macchangeR?
[11:50] <codename-nos> tarzeau: interesting .. so the setting would be still applied if i boot into anyother os ?
[11:50] <sk1special> this is it i believe. http://www.alobbs.com/macchanger/
[11:51] <supernova> sudo apt-get install macchanger
[11:51] <tarzeau> codename-nos: no, it just stays as long as the system is running
[11:51] <cutekitty> tarzeau: after changing the MAC address using the 'ifconfig' way, is there some other program that can confirm the change?
[11:51] <tarzeau> codename-nos: it'll not survive reboots
[11:51] <codename-nos> cutekitty: search google : macchangeR - name of your package .deb / .rpm or source
[11:51] <tarzeau> cutekitty: ifconfig -a will confirm it and any software showing the mac address
[11:51] <codename-nos> tarzeau: yeah .. but if it would that would be awesome !
[11:51] <tarzeau> cutekitty: what you want to do doesn't make any sense at all, but well now you know how
[11:52] <cutekitty> supernova: "E: Unable to locate package macchanger"
[11:52] <sary> alright , please try to load the driver module ..  sudo modprobe r8712u .
[11:52] <tarzeau> codename-nos: you can change the mac address in any operating system that i know
[11:52] <cutekitty> tarzeau: why does'nt what i want to do make sense? what doesn't make sense?
[11:52] <tarzeau> codename-nos: so, how does it matter if it survives reboots or not? not at all...
[11:52] <supernova> Question to ALL:- DELL XPS L502X: how to get nvidia M540 driver working in ubuntu
[11:52] <tarzeau> cutekitty: your privacy concerns
[11:52] <sary> supernova: my last post was for you.
[11:52] <cutekitty> tarzeau: i don't get it. what do you mean "my privacy concerns"?
[11:52] <codename-nos> tarzeau: it would for many .. !
[11:53] <tarzeau> 13:44 < cutekitty> tarzeau: it's got to do with tracking.
[11:53] <tarzeau> cutekitty: who do you think is tracking mac addresses?
[11:53] <codename-nos>  anyway ! i m just happy to be back in ubuntu after a long time
[11:53] <cutekitty> supernova, the sudo command you gave has given me an error message.
[11:54] <codename-nos> cutekitty: what error ?
[11:54] <supernova> tell me the error
[11:55] <supernova> sary : done
[11:55] <codename-nos> cutekitty: http://www.alobbs.com/macchanger
[11:55] <cutekitty> tarzeau: what do you suggest for the {new MAC address} ?
[11:56] <sary> supernova: now run sudo iwconfig ..
[11:56] <tarzeau> cutekitty: you can start from 00:00:00:00:00:00:01 to ef:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff i guess
[11:56] <cutekitty> tarzeau: yes, but what would look like a real MAC address?
[11:56] <tarzeau> cutekitty: c0:01:c0:0f:fe:e0
[11:57] <cutekitty> tarzeau: don't all those zeros make it look like it was something a human did?
[11:57] <tarzeau> cutekitty: i don't think so
[11:57] <cutekitty> tarzeau: ok.
[11:58] <Shanth> how to stream ubuntu desktop to a website
[11:58] <supernova> sary: http://paste.ubuntu.com/998889/
[12:00] <GantsA> ok, how i can do this in a .sh file?  part 1: run a progam, part 2: read line x from a list to input in the program, part 3: input comands on the program
[12:01] <gr33n7007h> GantsA, /join #bash
[12:01] <sary> supernova: is it a PCI , or a USB device ..
[12:01] <cutekitty> tarzeau: what happens if the MAC address isn't reverted  to the real/original one afterwards?
[12:01] <GantsA> gr33n7007h, tyvm for the tip
[12:02] <tarzeau> cutekitty: it'll be reverted when you reboot
[12:02] <rumpe1> cutekitty, the hardware-MAC never changes, only the "copy" the OS uses
[12:02] <supernova> sary: it is a belkin USB Wifi Receiver
[12:03] <cutekitty> rumpe1: pls explain. i'm big newbie. :-)
[12:03] <cutekitty> tarzeau: interesting that the fake MAC address isn't "saved".
[12:04] <rumpe1> cutekitty, as I said: you can only change the MAC because it's not read from the device directly each time it's needed. A copy is used, which you can change, as long as the OS runs.
[12:04] <tarzeau> rumpe1: cutekitty doesn't get it, really
[12:04] <cutekitty> rumpe1: you mean that you can't permanently change your MAC address?
[12:04] <rumpe1> cutekitty, exactly
[12:04] <sk1special> anyone know why in xscreen saver its not allowing me to add a random image to it? the menu is there..but the file options are greyed out/unclickable. i can use the txt part. but not image
[12:05] <supernova> sary : http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=179211
[12:05] <cutekitty> rumpe1: will those programs that snoop into your MAC address know that you've masked/changed the MAC address temproralily?
[12:05] <tarzeau> rumpe1, cutekitty: i wonder which program snoops on mac addresses and collects them... i don't know of any
[12:06] <cutekitty> tarzeau: ok. just taking care. is there a way to tell what a program knows about me?
[12:06] <tarzeau> cutekitty: yes, all the input you give it
[12:07] <cutekitty> tarzeau: or, to be more accurate, is there a way to find out what a program tries to fitnd out about me.
[12:07] <cutekitty> tarzeau: you might have heard of iPHone apps that snoop and get the person's contacts list
[12:07] <tarzeau> cutekitty: oh, how is that related to ubuntu?
[12:07] <cutekitty> tarzeau: that's the sort of thing i want to know... what things is the program getting without our knowing?
[12:07] <sary> supernova: then the right command should be sudo lsusb -v , and lsmod | grep r8712u
[12:07] <cutekitty> tarzeau: i was making a point.
[12:07] <cutekitty> tarzeau: the point was that a program could know more than what we give it
[12:07] <bazhang> cutekitty, lets get back on topic
[12:07] <tarzeau> cutekitty: if you use google, they track your searches
[12:08] <rumpe1> cutekitty, ? the only way to check, if a MAC is real is maybe by checking, if it makes "sense". It contains the vendor and maybe model .. maybe. I'm not sure about that.
[12:08] <bazhang> cutekitty, try ##networking , this is not ubuntu related
[12:08] <cutekitty> rumpe1: you mean a MAC address, if you decipher it, is matched to a vendor and/or model?
[12:08] <cutekitty> bazhang: it is!
[12:09] <cutekitty> bazhang: i'm on ubuntu
[12:09] <bazhang> !ot | cutekitty
[12:09] <cutekitty> right now
[12:09] <cutekitty> bazhang:  if you follow our conversation, you will see thaht this in on-topic
[12:09] <bazhang> cutekitty, that means nothing. take the questions to ##networking
[12:09] <cutekitty> bazhang: the apple line was just an illustration
[12:09] <bazhang> cutekitty, I have followed it all. mac changing is not in any way ubuntu specific.
[12:10] <supernova> sary : http://paste.ubuntu.com/998911/    --------------------------- lsmod --------> r8712u                189049  0
[12:11] <tarzeau> cutekitty: you should be more concerned about your ip address
[12:11] <cutekitty> tarzeau: yes, i know, it's taken care of :-)
[12:11] <tarzeau> cutekitty: you're not near washington?
[12:12] <cutekitty> tarzeau: what?
[12:12] <lenneth_> There is a quick fix to make an eeepc synaptic touchpad rotate according with xrandr from an extension of gnome-shell?
[12:12] <evilgeenius> Is there a place to report Ubuntu interface bugs?  I only installed  it yesterday and I've already found a few.
[12:12] <IdleOne> !bugs | evilgeenius
[12:12] <tarzeau> cutekitty: no you're not, since you're using webchat, yuck
[12:12] <bazhang> !bug | evilgeenius
[12:12] <knelix> Hello. I've got an issue logging in with xubuntu 12.04- Login keeps looping after I enter my password- throwing me back to the login screen.
[12:12] <cutekitty> webchat is yummy! it's convenient
[12:12] <bazhang> tarzeau, cutekitty continue in #ubuntu-offtopic Please
[12:13] <cutekitty> bazhang: ok. i'll be quiet now.
[12:13] <knelix> I can login via one of the terminals, but not into the xfce.
[12:13] <sk1special> is there a xscreensaver channel/ anyone here familiar with it?
[12:13] <bazhang> !alis | sk1special
[12:14] <LinuxMonkey> bazhang: it may actually violate the CoC if they continue that talk in any ubuntu sponsored channels
[12:14] <lenneth_> i am using https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/11/monitor-status-indicator/, i guess its a matter of poking in the extension code but i dont know where to start
[12:15] <cutekitty> tarzeau: pls pm me
[12:15] <cutekitty> tarzeau: how do i private message you on webchat?
[12:15] <IdleOne> /msg nickname message
[12:15] <lenneth_> drop webchat and fire up xchat ^_^
[12:15] <cutekitty> IdleOne: thanks
[12:16] <knelix> Anyone have any clue concerning my loping login issue?
[12:16] <knelix> *looping
[12:16] <supernova> sary: ??
[12:16] <IdleOne> knelix: maybe #xubuntu knows more
[12:16] <supernova> @all Does anyone know how to get GeForce working in ubuntu
[12:17] <knelix> IdleOne: I wish. Nobody seems to be home there.
[12:17] <sk1special> the channel list freezes my chat everytime i open it
[12:17] <IdleOne> knelix: patience is a requirement when seeking free support :)
[12:17] <knelix> IdleOne: I know that well. ;-)
[12:18] <cutekitty> tarzeau: i did  "ifconfig wlan0 hw ether {my new MAC}" and i got "SIOCSIFHWADDR: Operation not permitted"
[12:18] <sary> supernova: lsmod | grep 87
[12:19] <ikonia> cutekitty: you don't change mac addresses
[12:19] <IdleOne> cutekitty: Please take it to PM or ##networking, your question is not ubuntu related even if you are using Ubuntu at the moment. besides the folks in ##networking are most likely better placed to help you.
[12:19] <ikonia> cutekitty: why are you trying to change your make address ?
[12:19] <cutekitty> ikonia: for privacy
[12:19] <supernova> sary: r8712u                189049  0
[12:19] <cutekitty> IdleOne: ok. going to #nettworking
[12:19] <ikonia> cutekitty: it won't make it any more/less private
[12:20] <pzn> I have one HD with problems in grub. how can I reinstall grub? I must plug the HD into other computer, then how to reinstall grub in this scenario?
[12:20] <IdleOne> !grub | pzn
[12:21] <knelix> If X is having an issue on login, what file should I check?
[12:21] <stueng> hello, when attempting apt-get install gnome-session-fallback I receive Depends: gnome-panel but it is not going to be installed
[12:21] <lenneth_> pzn, try the supergrubdisk :)
[12:21] <stueng> below this, I receive nx server, depends nxnode and nxclient but they are not going to be installed
[12:21] <stueng> I am trying to get x2go working... eith unity or gnome I dont care
[12:23] <sary> supernova: seems like you need a new driver .. which is 8712u with out 'r'.
[12:23] <caaakeeey> what would you expect from a perfect irc web client?
[12:23] <stueng> not to show all these disconnects
[12:23] <stueng> or joins...
[12:24] <IdleOne> !ot | caaakeeey
[12:25] <pzn> I mirrored an entire HD with "dd". both HDs are same size, same manufacturer. both motherboards are same model. now the new HD has the message "kernel panic unable to mount root fs on unknown block". what is wrong?
[12:26] <bentlecs> As a graduate student working in the Dept. of Epidemiology, I was approached by a group of nurses who were attempting to organize a protest against male infant circumcision in Kinston General Hospital. They said that their observations indicated that babies undergoing the procedure were subjected to significant and inhumane levels of pain that subsequently adversely affected their behaviours
[12:27] <DJones> bentlecs: Thats not something appropriate to the channel
[12:27] <DasEi> pzn: idk, sounds strange, well reinstall grub and do an updateinitramfs -u from a chroot
[12:27] <DasEi> !ot | bentlecs
[12:28] <DarkApex> bentlecs: Please don't post anything not related to Ubuntu on this channel. There are other channels for it.
[12:28] <DasEi> bentlecs: maybe ##politicss
[12:28] <DasEi> bentlecs: maybe ##politics *
[12:28] <stueng> hello, when attempting apt-get install gnome-session-fallback I receive Depends: gnome-panel but it is not going to be installed. Below this I receive depency errors for nxserver (I dont know why). I am trying to get x2go working, I dont care whether with unity or gnome
[12:28] <DasEi> pzn: you know how to do that ?
[12:30] <ZaNeIuM> suddenly now when i reboot i always get the grub boot menu, i only got i drive and no media is in, what gives?
[12:31] <ubsrv> hi guys, I'm having some serious problems with postfix, last night my server was attacked and used to send over 15000 spam mails within 2 hours.. My configuration included <IP_ADDRESS>/0 in 'mynetworks' (I know that's too bad...). Now I've deleted that entry, but the problem is I need my users to be able to send mails from their homes, and most of them include dynamic ips, and if they IPs are not
[12:31] <ubsrv> listed in 'mynetworks' they get a "Relay access denied" error. Any idea on how to configure this?
[12:31] <cutekitty> tarzeau: did you get my PM?
[12:32] <VictorCL> hi people , anyone know how I could do something like this:
[12:32] <VictorCL> I need to find all the files that are named  es_es.lang.php and change their charset
[12:32] <Wizard> VictorCL, combine find -exec with iconv.
[12:33] <JediMaster> hi all, since upgrading to 12.04 imagemagick seems to have lost JPEG and PNG support (all the libjpeg/libpng of various versions are installed), any ideas how to get the support back (from the list: identify -list format)
[12:36] <realraven> ping?
[12:36] <JediMaster> pong
[12:36] <stueng> pong!
[12:36] <stueng> ok so I removed nxserver nad now gnome session thingy dpeendcies have dissapeared
[12:36] <realraven> hi, I am having some trouble with Ubuntu since I updated to OO (11.10)
[12:37] <stueng> plain stupid if u ask me
[12:37] <realraven> Can't start thunderbird anymore.
[12:37] <realraven> Also , my virtualbox additions don't seem to work anymore
[12:37] <stueng> start it from a terminal and watch for errors
[12:37] <Wizard> BTW, you upgraded to 11.10 recently? o_O
[12:37] <realraven> stueng: can you help me with that? I am running Ubuntu in a VM
[12:38] <stueng> open a temrinal and type thunderbird.. at a guess
[12:38] <realraven> ok, I will propbably get the same error
[12:38] <realraven> the main problem is that my profile folder is on a shared folder on the host and I cannot access that anymore
[12:39] <realraven> and for some reason I cannot install gues additions either
[12:39] <realraven> guest additions
[12:39] <stueng> oh ok didnt realise you had an error otherwise you would have menitoned that when you first posted :P
[12:39] <realraven> well the first error I was getting was:
[12:39] <realraven> "Thunderbird is already running but is not responding"
[12:40] <realraven> so I checked my profile.ini
[12:40] <realraven> that had 2 different profiles, I commented out one, just pointed to the one on my shared folder
[12:40] <realraven> but the share seems to be empty
[12:41] <ubsrv> hi guys, I'm having some serious problems with postfix, last night my server was attacked and used to send over 15000 spam mails within 2 hours.. My configuration included <IP_ADDRESS>/0 in 'mynetworks' (I know that's too bad...). Now I've deleted that entry, but the problem is I need my users to be able to send mails from their homes, and most of them include dynamic ips, and if they IPs are not
[12:41] <ubsrv> listed in 'mynetworks' they get a "Relay access denied" error. Any idea on how to configure this?
[12:41] <akaariai> I am having a keyboard problem on 12.04 - a USB keyboard goes to sleep (or that is the hypothesis) after a second or so
[12:41] <akaariai> so, when I start typing, key presses are lost until wakeup
[12:42] <realraven> stueng, just tried thunderbird -profilemanager it says "failed to create drawable"
[12:42] <akaariai> I have tried googling this problem, but found nothing relevant - so I am looking help here.
[12:42] <realraven> but the profile manager comes up now, so I am going to create a new profile....
[12:42] <realraven> I think I really need to point this to a shared drive on my VM though, otherwise I will run out of space
[12:44] <lenneth_> im trying to apply this to pangolin + gnome shell to no avail - http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/synaptics/
[12:45] <realraven> hmm, I need a better chat client. this is bad
[12:45]  * realraven searches for chatzilla
[12:45] <ey_> Hi there.
[12:46] <Wizard> realraven, Xchat is fine.
[12:46] <Wizard> Hi ey_
[12:46] <lenneth_> the driver loads, but i dont kno0w ho0w to modify the shell extension that calls up xrandr, aand i dont want to install jupiter (the shell script that pass trough to xrandr works with jupiter)
[12:46] <stueng> is there a place to go for help with x2go ? IRC channell?
[12:46] <ey_> Anybody using Elementary OS?
[12:47] <Wizard> eyjay1991, #elementary.
[12:47] <eyjay1991> Oh, Offtopic. Sorry2.
[12:47] <realraven> brb ...
[12:47] <realraven> what IRC server are we on here?
[12:47] <eyjay1991> Well this is kinda in topic, when there is update in the update server
[12:47] <eyjay1991> does it really required to update?
[12:48] <realraven> whoamI
[12:48] <sary> stueng: you can search for channels with keywords using alis , fro example /msg alis list *x2go * .. and see /msgalis help list
[12:48] <eyjay1991> much like updates on windows,
[12:48] <sary> realraven: this is the freenode IRC Netwrok.
[12:49] <eyjay1991> Guys, i already added this on terminal, i want to install Gimp 2.8.
[12:49] <eyjay1991> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:otto-kesselgulasch/gimp
[12:49] <eyjay1991> sudo apt-get update
[12:49] <realraven> ok, freenode is good. will be back with a better IRC client (chatzilla is fine)
[12:49] <eyjay1991> But when i type
[12:49] <eyjay1991> sudo apt-get install gimp
[12:49] <eyjay1991> it gives me 2.6 x.x
[12:49] <Wizard> !ppa
[12:49] <OerHeks> eyjay1991,  ppa's are not supported here, contact the ppa owner
[12:50] <eyjay1991> I see. Thanks for the Link.
[12:50] <hje841> does anybody know where I can find the driver for Huawei E173 3G modem?
[12:51] <alumno> k,k
[12:51] <alumno> ll
[12:51] <alumno> llllll
[12:51] <alumno> hola
[12:51] <sary> alumno: please don't flood , and post in one line .. thank you :)
[12:51] <sary> hola ;)
[12:52] <OerHeks> hje841, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Huawei
[12:53] <cutekitty> how come  the "Save" button becomes unclickable when i change the "Device MAC address" blank in System Settings -> Network -> wireless -> Options?
[12:53] <akaariai> my usb keyboard key strokes are lost if I have not used it in a couple of seconds - any pointers how to fix this?
[12:53] <bentlecs> WHAT HAPPENS when FUKUSHIMA is pounded by a LEVEL 7.0 EARTHQUAKE in the next 3 YEARS?
[12:53] <Sidewinder> eyjay1991, And, to answer your previous question, yes, you always should do the security updates to your various packages, for security reasons, obviously. Probably be about twice a week and only takes a minute or two.
[12:53] <IdleOne> !ot > bentlecs
[12:54] <Wizard> IdleOne++
[12:55] <knelix> I can log in to xubuntu with a guest account in xfce, or with my proper account via the terminal, but not with my proper account in xfce!
[12:55] <aFeijo> hi folks, I have a file with lots of lines that I need to direct it to a mysql command, to run as: show create table $line; how can I do that?
[12:55] <Wizard> knelix, check ~/.xsession-errors for hits.
[12:55] <ubsrv> hi guys, I'm having some serious problems with postfix, last night my server was attacked and used to send over 15000 spam mails within 2 hours.. My configuration included <IP_ADDRESS>/0 in 'mynetworks' (I know that's too bad...). Now I've deleted that entry, but the problem is I need my users to be able to send mails from their homes, and most of them include dynamic ips, and if they IPs are not
[12:55] <ubsrv> listed in 'mynetworks' they get a "Relay access denied" error. Any idea on how to configure this?
[12:55] <Wizard> hints*
[12:56] <compdoc> ubsrv, yikes
[12:57] <knelix> wizard: How do I do that in the terminal? Just typing it in tells me there's "no such file or directory".
[12:57] <realraven> now, I am back. chatZilla is better. CAn somebody help with Ubuntu on a VirtualBox machine?
[12:57] <Wizard> knelix, cat ~/.xsession-errors
[12:57] <ubsrv> compdoc big yikes...
[12:58] <knelix> wizard: Same thing.
[12:58] <realraven> I am running Ubuntu 11.10 under VirtualBox, need to get file sharing back working
[12:58] <L3top> knelix: are you root by chance?
[12:58] <Wizard> knelix, strange.
[12:58] <Wizard> Yeah, are you root by chance, knelix?
[12:59] <knelix> L3top: wizard: Simply using my normal user name, not root. I use sudo when needed.
[12:59] <Wizard> This doesn't need sudo.
[12:59] <Wizard> Hmm, strange.
[12:59] <Wizard> so, can you go to ~ and ls -l ?
[13:00] <Wizard> Maybe you're not owner of you home dir.
[13:00] <realraven> is anybody here familiar with virtualbox?
[13:00] <L3top> cat /home/<user name>/.xsession-errors         replacing with your user name
[13:00] <Wizard> L3top, ~ shall do the trick.
[13:00] <knelix> wizard: Yes, has me very frustrated. I've blown a few hours here trying things without result.
[13:00] <L3top> !ask | realraven
[13:01] <knelix> realraven: Yes. But just to play around.
[13:01] <Orpheon> !patience
[13:01] <Orpheon> ah
[13:02] <knelix> wizard: Yes, I have a listing…
[13:02] <IdleOne> !language | gnubie
[13:02] <Erealz> hey everyone i just wanted to know if anyone is experiencing hults and crashes with the new 12.04 lts 64 bit
[13:03] <Erealz> im writeing a review and it not looking good so far?
[13:03] <L3top> !poll | Erealz
[13:03] <knelix> wizard, L3top: Nothing… "No such file or directory"… Different in xubuntu perhaps??
[13:03] <stueng> I presume its possible to have both unity and gnome installed at teh same time ?
[13:03] <Wizard> knelix, Same in all Linux distros ;[
[13:04] <IdleOne> !notunity | stueng yes it is
[13:04] <realraven> how do I get the typable addres bar back that I had in the previous nautilus version?
[13:04] <L3top> Erealz: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place to ask such... this is a support only channel.
[13:04] <realraven> ubottu: interesting
[13:04] <stueng> right thanks, so from x2go, I could tell it to use gnome if I installed the gnome-panel package?
[13:04] <stueng> or gnome-shell ?
[13:05] <Faralla> Hi. I just started updating 11.10 to 12.04 using a DVD supplied by german magazine C't. After selecting to upgrade it asked me for the default user name. While suspecting something is wrong I cancelled the upgrade to use "do-release-upgrade" instead. But it seems the upgrade routine did already mess up my harddisk. I cannot boot into ubuntu anymore.
[13:05] <Bundoo> Does anyone know why the Google Chrome  application doesn't appear on the Alt-Tab application switching menu?  Also when I click on the Chrome icon another instance launches rather than the existing one brought into focus.
[13:05] <realraven> how do I find out which gnome I am running?
[13:05] <Faralla> It is complaining about a missing init= entry, though I have no chance to enter anything in the busybox shell (maybe because of USB keyboard?). Please help me to get back my 11.10 system
[13:05] <stueng> is IdleOne a bot ?
[13:05] <Sidewinder> stueng, You may wish to have a look here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/
[13:06] <IdleOne> stueng: I've been called worse. I don't know what x2go is
[13:06] <Sidewinder> Heh,.
[13:06] <stueng> lol ok :)
[13:06] <stueng> thanks
[13:06] <realraven> sidewinder: is there a way to revert gnome to 11.04 under 11.10 ?
[13:06] <knelix> L3top, wizard: I think I'm just going to try copying the few files I have in Documents to an SD card and nuking the whole damned thing.
[13:07] <knelix> [Trying to remember how to copy files in the terminal.]
[13:07] <L3top> knelix: ls -a ~
[13:07] <realraven> or what's the easiest way to install more gnome themes?
[13:07] <ikonia> knelix: cp
[13:07] <Sidewinder> realraven, I've no idea, sorry. I'm running 10.04.
[13:07] <Faralla> Any help? Please
[13:08] <L3top> knelix: do you see the file we are asking for?
[13:08] <knelix> ikonia: thanks
[13:08] <knelix> L3top: I see some "X" files.. (no pun intended)
[13:09] <L3top> Felix, can you boot into recovery (press shift several times during boot)
[13:09] <knelix> X- Authority, defaults, screensaver, -errors, errors-old (actually I think that was me)
[13:09] <L3top> -errors knelix?
[13:09] <angs> how can I uninstall a program?
[13:10] <knelix> Yes, sessions-errors
[13:10] <IdleOne> angs: how did you install it?
[13:10] <knelix> *xsessions-errors
[13:10] <DarkApex> angs: sudo apt-get purge program
[13:10] <angs> I installed it on the command line
[13:10] <compdoc> sudo apt-get --purge remove program
[13:10] <neo_> suppose I would like to play one song through hdmi and another I would like to play through the laptop speakers, how would I do this?
[13:10] <angs> QT SDK
[13:10] <angs> thanks
[13:10] <L3top> ok... that is what we are trying to open knelix.
[13:10] <WaqarAzeem> hi, today i tried to update a machine to 12.04 LTS from 11.04... when i saw a reboot option i just pressed it. When the server started it show a screen of kde with progress bar ... continusly circulating (although i was using gnome before the boot) ... after more then an hr i decided to reboot it. but no use ... I don't know how atleast i come back to commad line so that i could do any cleanup opration.
[13:11] <Sidewinder> Faralla, I can't help with your exact problem, sorry. That said, I did notice on my 10.04 box, when I plugged in a USB keyboard it wasn't recognized, until I hit the log-in screen. Not a terribly big deal; I just couldn't boot into windows
[13:11] <knelix> L3top: k. I will try it
[13:11] <DasEi> WaqarAzeem: use safemode
[13:11] <killer> hi guys can u help me install video card drivers....
[13:11] <killer> lspci -nn | grep VGA
[13:12] <killer> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2a42] (rev 07)
[13:12] <DasEi> WaqarAzeem: left shift when grub starts, usually second entry
[13:12] <knelix> L3top: Forgive me- How do I check that file?
[13:12] <neo_> killer, did you use the hardware drivers program?
[13:12] <DasEi> WaqarAzeem: then again check sources list and run a full update/grade
[13:12] <killer> yea :neo_
[13:13] <L3top> cat ~/.xsession-errors
[13:13] <L3top> what problem are you having killer?
[13:13] <WaqarAzeem> let me try it.
[13:13] <sk1special> ive used ubuntu tweak to set a custom logo/ login screen..and  neither are showing. the one it had before is gone but now its just a purplish dotted line default one
[13:13] <realraven> what to do if an autorun failed "Cannot find the autorun program"?
[13:13] <realraven> is that a special ubuntu program?
[13:14] <DasEi> realraven: trying a cd ?
[13:14] <stueng> what is the command to start gnome-shell then? gnome-shell ?
[13:14] <Orpheon> uhh
[13:14] <realraven> DasEI: a virtualbox iso which is shown on a VM client
[13:14] <Stanley00> sk1special: make sure that file is readable by *everyone*, since lightdm has its own user
[13:14] <killer> L3top : call of duty is not running under wine...it ssays viddeo card not configured properly
[13:15] <realraven> DasEi: it contains virtualbox additions for the Ubuntu VM, such as integrated video driver / mouse pointer / clipboard etc
[13:15] <compdoc> sk1special, what did you do to add the pics?
[13:15] <Faralla> it seems when booting the system, grub is not using the config from /boot/grub/grub.cfg. How can I fix that from a rescue system?
[13:15] <stueng> I just realised I am not running 12.04 xD
[13:16] <DasEi> realraven: thought so, well mount cd,  cd there, select right package for you architecture and start it as root like ./686Linuxblah or sh if it's a *.run file
[13:16] <realraven> DasEi: is there any way I can run a file.run from terminal?
[13:16] <DasEi> realraven: sh  file.run as root
[13:16] <stueng>  ./file.run
[13:16] <realraven> DasEi: my problem is I have the su password but not hte root one
[13:16] <knelix> L3top: openConnections: connect: No such file or directory / cannot connect to gritty at :0 / gone-session[1833]: WARNING: Unable to read ICE authority file /home/knelix/.ICEauthority
[13:16] <zykotick9> realraven: "chmod +x foo.run" the ./foo.run
[13:16] <angs> I would like to uninstall QT SDK, I type  "sudo apt-get --purge remove qt" but it doesnt work. how can I find out what to write instead of "qt"?
[13:16] <L3top> well... you can sudo apt-get install i965-va-driver   on precise... but I am not convinced that is the problem.
[13:16] <realraven> ok. I will start a terminal. please go slow with me
[13:16] <L3top> knelix: ^
[13:16] <eutheria> why does empathy never block anyone?
[13:16] <DasEi> realraven: humm ? sudo -s ?
[13:17] <knelix> L3top: I tried to install Gnome in an attempt to circumnavigate the problem, but the installation was borked.
[13:17] <realraven> DasEi: yes that works
[13:17] <realraven> so I am in sudo now
[13:17] <DasEi> realraven: right, also see zykot.. , make it executable first
[13:17] <L3top> yeah knelix you might get better answers in #winehq as to the game
[13:17] <Leodidi> Hello, I'm having a problem with submenu visual freeze randomly on 10.10 with 2 laptops
[13:17] <DasEi> realraven: chmod +x file.run
[13:17] <sk1special> compdoc: i went to tweaks/login settings ( then had to unlock the settings ) clicked the pic like it said to add and selected one for icon one for background from my pics folder.
[13:18] <sk1special> just allowed all permissions.. brb trying
[13:18] <L3top> knelix: what version ubuntu are you on?
[13:18] <knelix> L3top: 12.04 LTS
[13:19] <knelix> L3top: I shouldn't have upgraded-- this was one of the latest upgrades which caused this.
[13:19] <L3top> knelix: Ok... well the i965-va-driver will give you as good results as possible for your card, but I am not sure that that is the problem, at all.
[13:19] <L3top> knelix: ^
[13:19] <stueng> disalbe composition ?
[13:19] <realraven> DasEi: for some reason I am getting No such file or directory
[13:19] <sk1special> yeah didnt work.
[13:19] <Frantic> guys, how can I see the ufw rules before enabling ufw? If I `ufw status` all I get is that it's disabled
[13:19] <stueng> DasEi: are you in the directory where file.run is ?
[13:20] <sk1special> is it a problem that to change the pic i have to reenter my authentication on every restart?
[13:20] <sk1special> in ubuntu tweak settings i mean
[13:20] <L3top> Those messages are very borky knelix.   I would definitely check #winehq
[13:20] <eyjay1991> is xubuntu good for newbies in linux too?
[13:20] <realraven> DasEi: I seem to be, the prompt reads: root@PhoenUx:/media/VBOXADDITIONS_4.1.10_76836
[13:21] <Sidewinder> Faralla, Did you perhaps "Upgrade" your various distros on Ubuntu? As opposed to fresh installing. The reason I ask is that I've noticed, on my machine, using the "upgrade" method that I'm still using GRUB Legacy (which has no grub.config) in spite of the fact that I'm running 10.04 which installs, nativly GRUB 1.99, I believe.
[13:21] <Leodidi> Hello, I'm having a problem with submenu visual freeze randomly on 10.10
[13:21] <stueng> realraven: dasai timed out
[13:21] <realraven> DasEi: but it is hard to tell as the new nautilus doesn;t give me a copy-able URI
[13:21] <stueng> relurk: if you ls -l do you see file.run ?
[13:21] <stueng> realraven: ^
[13:21] <realraven> stueng: funny thing is ls doesn't seem to do anything in that folder
[13:22] <realraven> it just goes right back to the prompt
[13:22] <stueng> realraven: type pwd, where are you ? and where is the file you wish to run ?
[13:22] <realraven> PWD: /media/VBOXADDITIONS_4.1.10_76836
[13:22] <Leodidi> Heey anyone can help me with submenu visual freeze randomly on 10.10????
[13:22] <stueng> and where is rile.fun ?
[13:22] <stueng> run
[13:23] <WaqarAzeem> (recomery mode) is there. i used the option root. i cannot perform any thing as the commad line is now showing any text that i am typing in. and file system is in readonly mode.
[13:23] <realraven> according to nautilus it is on a disc (iso) called VBOXADDITIONS_4.1.10_76836
[13:23] <L3top> Leodidi: 10.10 is no longer supported.
[13:23] <stueng> ok you cant chmod +x a file on an iso cos it will be read only
[13:23] <cevarief> Hi.. i have 3G usb modem detected by connection manager, but it could not connect to internet. I've set correct isp user and pass. Any clue where to start checking it?
[13:23] <realraven> stueng: ok, but why does ls not work?
[13:23] <realraven> is /media the correct root for iso / cd files
[13:24] <stueng> realraven: dunno.. guess the mount isnt working properly, did you mount this manually? or "insert" it from the virtual machine manager?
[13:24] <realraven> the later
[13:24] <realraven> I can see the files from nautilus
[13:24] <realraven> is there a "open a command prompt here" command in nautilus
[13:25] <realraven> unfortunately the new nautlius does not have a n adress line anymore :( :( :(
[13:25] <L3top> !maverick
[13:25] <Leodidi> L3top: any suggestions for sony vaio Y and EEE PC ?
[13:25] <realraven> the old one had a line where you could copy / paste the pwd
[13:25] <zykotick9> realraven: not by default - there is a package nautilus-open-terminal that adds that feature
[13:25] <knelix> how do I apt-get install LXDE?
[13:25] <realraven> zykotick9: cool, how do I install that??
[13:25] <Sidewinder> cevarief, I'm not certain but I seem to remember reading somewhere that you need to disable Network Manager first, in order to use a modem.
[13:25] <stueng> realraven: type mount... look at the output
[13:25] <zykotick9> realraven: ctrl+l maybe? to show address - i forget
[13:26] <gry> knelix: it's "lubuntu-desktop"
[13:26] <L3top> Leodidi: yes... upgrade to a supported version.
[13:26] <realraven> since I am already in sudo terminal
[13:26] <george_k> is this a good plac for newbies to ubuntu
[13:26] <knelix> gry: Thank you
[13:26] <DasEi> realraven: install what ?
[13:26] <stueng> george_k: its not a pickup bar, you just ask your questions
[13:26] <Faralla> Ok, on emore try. Please help me. The problem starts when running /scripts/init-bottom. It cannot mount /dev, /sys and /proc on /root. "No such file or directory"
[13:26] <L3top> george_k: if you have a support question, yes.  Meaning a specific problem etc.
[13:26] <george_k> ty
[13:26] <realraven> DasEi: a package nautilus-open-terminal
[13:26] <Sidewinder> cevarief, Just a "W#AH" on my part though. :(
[13:26] <realraven> this would make my life much easier
[13:27] <Leodidi> L3top: any specific version recommendations ?
[13:27] <Sidewinder> "WAG", even.
[13:27] <sk1special> anyone know what else to do? should i change the group the pic is in or .. ? *shrug*
[13:27] <Faralla> Then "Target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init. No init found. Try passing init= bootarg"
[13:27] <Faralla> please explain what this means
[13:27]  * Sidewinder Is fumble fingers; sorry.
[13:27] <DasEi> realraven: sudo apt-get install it
[13:27] <realraven> ok, I had forgotten
[13:27] <stueng> or use the software centre
[13:27] <Leodidi> in Ubuntu supported machines it says 10.10 and 10.4 are the best match
[13:27] <george_k> when I start ubuntu my screen says "input not supported". why???
[13:27] <k_alam> help
[13:28] <realraven> tryhing apt-get nautilus-open-terminal
[13:28] <stueng> apt-get install
[13:28] <DasEi> realraven: sudo apt-get install
[13:28] <realraven> DasEi: sorry thanks
[13:28] <realraven> lovely
[13:28] <DasEi> cheers
[13:28] <k_alam> To fix a bug with gnome-panel in natty i compiled & installed from source.The bug is fixed.But after that i can not add any ubuntu indicators(indicator-sound etc..) on the panel. when i try "ps -ef | grep [i]ndicator" it shows nothing. What i am missing? any idea?
[13:29] <stueng> you probably have to restart nautilus
[13:29] <L3top> Leodidi: 1204 is the newest version and is LTS... however you are going to lose the familiarety of your classic desktop... if you are not afraid of change, 1204 is good. What is the output of lspci | grep VGA ?
[13:29] <Wizard> Is there a way to integrate java swing menus with globalmenu?
[13:31] <stueng> anyone tell me the command that starts the terminal from inside unity?
[13:31] <realraven> zykotick9: I installed nautilus-open-terminal, and restarted nautilus, but cannot find the  command?
[13:31] <stueng> equivilant to ctrl+alt+t ?
[13:31] <Stanley00> sk1special: you there?
[13:31] <BlueChaos> hellow
[13:31] <realraven> stueng: that is a handy shortcut
[13:31] <sk1special> Stanley: yeah didnt work allowing full permission
[13:31] <BlueChaos> I have a question
[13:31] <stueng> realraven: yeah, but I need to know what it "runs" to start that :P
[13:32] <Stanley00> sk1special: did you change all the path, or just the file permission?
[13:32] <Leodidi> L3top: just that i made fresh install 10.10 on both laptops and fixed nearly all hardware probs except this glitch
[13:32] <realraven> stueng: you mean which terminal?
[13:32] <sk1special> should i change the group the pic belongs to or..? also does it matter that i have to authenticate in ubuntu tweak settings every restart in order to access settings?
[13:32] <stueng> realraven: your icon for your terminal, can you tell me what command it runs ?
[13:32] <stueng> gkterminal or something
[13:32] <realraven> I don't use the icon: I use [F2] and then type terminal;
[13:33] <Guest20681> sudo /EXEC cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[13:33] <stueng> oh just terminal ok
[13:33] <realraven> yes I guess
[13:33] <stueng> realraven: type mount, do you see the ISO mounted?
[13:33] <sk1special> stanley: i just right clicked properties the pic and checked marked the allow all boxes and the ability to run as prog or w/e box
[13:33] <Stanley00> sk1special:  where did you put that pic?
[13:33] <BlueChaos> I use windows & unbuntu too Unbuntu is in (D:) windows (c) and all what i'am was installed on unbuntu was goes in C: and now from 52 gb's avaible on C is used 85% from his capacity why ?
[13:33] <L3top> Leodidi: they are end of line... no support, no updates, no security updates.... you need to upgrade.
[13:34] <sk1special> home/computer/pics
[13:34] <realraven> stueng: I get a bunch of stuff, wait I will make a pastebin
[13:34] <zykotick9> realraven: you probably need to "killall nautilus" then start nautilus again, should be in right click menu
[13:34] <stueng> realraven: just look for something to do with the ISO or the /media directory
[13:35] <stueng> I think mounted ISO's will go into the mount list.. I dunno lol
[13:35] <realraven> the last line reads:
[13:35] <realraven>   //dev/sr0 on /media/VBOXADDITIONS_4.1.10_76836 type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,mode=0400,dmode=0500,uhelper=udisks)
[13:35] <L3top> BlueChaos: can you please restate "what i'am was installed on unbuntu was goes in C:"
[13:35] <Sidewinder> BlueChaos, Is this a WUBI install?
[13:35] <Leodidi> L3top: ouch, that was like 4 days of configs :)
[13:35] <realraven> stueng: is that what you were l0ooking for?
[13:35] <Stanley00> sk1special: how about move that pic to /home, and chmod +r it, in terminal "sudo mv /path/to/pic /home; sudo chmod +r /home/pic.png"
[13:35] <stueng> realraven: yeah
[13:35] <BlueChaos> Sidewinder
[13:35] <realraven> stueng: so it looks lik it is mounted
[13:36] <Leodidi> L3top: but thanks for the advice
[13:36] <realraven> but maybe I am not in the correct pwd
[13:36] <BlueChaos> that was tells me on linux low hdd memory
[13:36] <stueng> realraven: so ls /media/VBOX... (press tab) results in nothing ?
[13:36] <L3top> If you had gone with 10.04 Leodidi you would have been fine. It is important to pay attention to version life cycles.
[13:36] <realraven> yes it lists nothing.
[13:36] <BlueChaos> I check windows and I don`t have installed or copy any file
[13:36] <realraven> but no error either
[13:37] <BlueChaos> on it just programs
[13:37] <realraven> how do I end sudo?
[13:37] <stueng> realraven: you have tried ejecting hte virutal CD rom and "re-inserting" it ?
[13:37] <realraven> (sudo -s)
[13:37] <L3top> realraven: exit
[13:37] <realraven> ok, still no contents
[13:37] <realraven> I can try unmounting it - command line for that ?
[13:38] <BlueChaos> Sidewinder are u there?
[13:38] <oCean> !ro | BlueChaos
[13:38] <stueng> realraven: ok I dunno what else to tell you
[13:38] <realraven> I have to unmount it somehow///
[13:38] <Sidewinder> BlueChaos, Yes, but I'm very sorry. I don't understand what you are saying. :(
[13:39] <L3top> realraven: sudo umount -lf /path/to/drive
[13:39] <c0rnel> !ro | c0rnel
[13:39] <realraven> ok
[13:39] <falu> hey there, what is the current qt version on the repo ?
[13:39] <Sidewinder> !pm | BlueChaos
[13:39] <realraven> ok, I successfully unmounted it :)
[13:40] <realraven> now, trying to mount it using the command from virtualbox gives me the following error:
[13:41] <realraven> to mount the CD/DVD image, would you like to mounting of this medium .. could not mount
[13:41] <stueng> realraven: when you unmount it, does the directory inside /media dissapear ?
[13:41] <Sidewinder> !pm > BlueChaos
[13:41] <realraven> stueng: yes it disappeared
[13:41] <realraven> the way I mount it is usually through the virtualbox menu
[13:41] <stueng> realraven: ok, and to mount it again, do you right click install tools or something alon those lines?
[13:42] <stueng> realraven: yeah.. thats how you mounted it earlier ?
[13:42] <realraven> "devices / install guest additions"
[13:42] <realraven> stueng: yes
[13:42] <BlueChaos> Sidewinder
[13:42] <stueng> realraven: worked for me
[13:42] <BlueChaos> I explain u once more
[13:42] <stueng> :S
[13:42] <BlueChaos> I use Windows & ubuntu too so HDD capacitty is 500gb , windows location partition C:(50gb) unbuntu location D: (250 gb)
[13:42] <sk1special> stanley : just says no such file or directory found..
[13:42] <stueng> realraven: you said that from within nautilus you could see contents within /media/virtualbox.. ?
[13:42] <BlueChaos> and tells me this on linux  C partition is full : please remove ...
[13:43] <realraven> before I unmounted it, yes
[13:43] <knelix> L3top: I was able to get a functioning desktop after installing lubuntu. Thanks for your help.
[13:43] <realraven> but now its icon is gone :)
[13:43] <Stanley00> sk1special: did you know what mv and chmod do?
[13:43] <realraven> just can't get it back now
[13:43] <BlueChaos> understand now and what i need to know is why all my unbuntu installation goes in C:
[13:44] <BlueChaos> when his is installed on D:
[13:44] <Stanley00> sk1special: ah, sorry for my bad English :(
[13:44] <stueng> realraven: what you are doing should work fine... try again make sure you are looking int he right place, try it as sudo -s. If that fails, use nautilius to copy the contents of the CD to another directory and work from there
[13:44] <sk1special> stanley: nope no idea. just copy pasted what you said and inserted my pic path and all. no youre fine..ive only been on linux like a week so sitll super new
[13:45] <realraven> I just wish I could paste you the error message when I try to mount
[13:45] <stueng> realraven: so as an exmaple, mkdir /media/fuvbox | then use nautilus to copy the contents from the "icon" to this locaiton using hte GUI
[13:45] <realraven> but somehow the paste does not work from my host to the ubuntu vlient
[13:45] <Sidewinder> BlueChaos, First, you never answered my original question. Is this a WUBI install? If so, I'm sorry that I can't help; I wouldn't go anywhere near WUBI. You may, perhaps find the answers to your questions/problems here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[13:45] <stueng> realraven: but you are able to browse the contents of the ISO from nautlius? so you can copy them elsewhere on your file system?
[13:45] <realraven> stueng: I cannot get access ot the "cd" as it is a virtual iso on my C:\Program files\oracle\virtaulbox
[13:45] <zykotick9> realraven: lol, once guestadditions are install paste might work
[13:46] <realraven> zykotick9: exactly. but now I cannot see the files anymore as stueng told me to unmount it
[13:46] <realraven> :(
[13:46] <Stanley00> sk1special: well, can you give me the full path to your picture, and I will give you a working command
[13:46] <realraven> can I mount it from the command line again?
[13:46] <stueng> realraven: edit the hardware of the VM, remove the ISO
[13:47] <stueng> realraven: then tell it to install the tools again, this will re-insert the ISO
[13:47] <LmAt> How would I go about writing a terminal?  What are the standards that I would need to implement
[13:47] <Guest60985> ciao a tutti
[13:47] <zykotick9> LmAt: planning on reinventing the wheel are you?
[13:47] <stueng> english bro
[13:48] <LmAt> zykotick9: Perpetually.
[13:48] <stueng> once you have re-invented the wheel are you going to reinvent your own wheel?
[13:48] <LmAt> zykotick9: Lots of people have written terminals.  There's (at least) one for each windowing system.
[13:48] <usr13> zykotick9: LmAt He may make a better wheel
[13:49] <realraven> stueng: hmm, looks like I need to shut down Ubuntu before I can remove that iso :(
[13:49] <oCean> LmAt: since it is not really an ubuntu issue, try ##programming for example, or maybe even ##linux
[13:49] <stueng> realraven: usually you can unplug the CD drive
[13:49] <stueng> realraven: or "eject" the iso
[13:49] <usr13> realraven: What's the problem?
[13:49] <realraven> usr13: I was trying to reinstall gues additions for virtualbox
[13:49] <zykotick9> LmAt: rxvt-unicode already exists ;)
[13:50] <stueng> usr13: he wants to install the vbox tools, but upon inserting the ISO the directory appeared empty
[13:50] <realraven> stueng: there is devices > remove disk from virtual drive?
[13:50] <realraven> usr13: only empty in terminal, not in nautilus
[13:50] <realraven> usr13: so stueng showed me how unmount it
[13:50] <stueng> realraven: as long as its referring to the CD drive yeah, remove/eject its contents and then begin the process of installing the tools again. This process re-inserts the virtual CD into the virutal drive
[13:51] <realraven> ok
[13:51] <realraven> getting the sma eerror that I cannot paste for you
[13:51] <nrdb> hi, I have several desktop icons with a type 'link' they used to open 'FireFox' by default :-) ... but now open 'gedit' and load the pages html :-( ... how do I reset back to the correct action?
[13:51] <realraven> unable to unmount
[13:51] <stueng> realraven: it wasnt me that told you how to unmount it :P I simply said eject it and put it back in again
[13:52] <stueng> realraven: did it showup as a mounted icon on your desktop?
[13:52] <stueng> realraven: or whatever usually happens
[13:52] <realraven> ok I have hit install gues additions again, getting an autorung p[rompt now
[13:52] <realraven> it says "chose what application to laucnh"
[13:52] <stueng> realraven: ok... so from the terminal ls /media
[13:53] <stueng> realraven: and presuming its mounted it the same way as last time ls /media/VBOX(press tab)
[13:54] <Sidewinder> nrdb, At least on my 10.04 system, right click on the icon, then click on "Open With" and select the program that you want to open the file with..
[13:54] <zykotick9> Sidewinder: i'm under the impress that option doesn't exist in gnome3 (made life too easy) ;)
[13:55] <zykotick9> s/impress/impression/
[13:55] <realraven> I am backj, will do ls /media now
[13:55] <jharas> ciao
[13:55] <jharas> !list
[13:55] <realraven> what do I do with this dialog "Select how to open "VBOXADDITIONS/././." etc ?
[13:55] <Sidewinder> zykotick9, You're prolly right; that's why I prefaced w/10.04. :)
[13:55] <ubsrv> hi guys, I'm having some serious problems with postfix, last night my server was attacked and used to send over 15000 spam mails within 2 hours.. My configuration included <IP_ADDRESS>/0 in 'mynetworks' (I know that's too bad...). Now I've deleted that entry, but the problem is I need my users to be able to send mails from their homes, and most of them include dynamic ips, and if they IPs are not
[13:55] <ubsrv> listed in 'mynetworks' they get a "Relay access denied" error. Any idea on how to configure this?
[13:55] <angel279> Hello, I have Ubuntu 11.04 (natty) and I working to install some platform on my server which required "apache2-mpm-itk" (when I searched for the package I found it exist for percise version) does the package will be suitable also for my version? any idea what to do?
[13:56] <stueng> realraven: unsure... but is the contents of /media/VBOX etc still empty?
[13:56] <realraven> ok, I started the autorun - asking for authentication... one sec
[13:56] <stueng> realraven: sounds like its going to install then :)
[13:56] <nrdb> Sidewinder, there is no 'open with' option... on my 10.10 version
[13:57] <realraven> it is uncompressing the Virtualbox gues additons, removing installed version, that looks betterr...
[13:57] <L3top> angel279: apt-cache search apache2 | grep mpm
[13:57] <realraven> that is usually a good sign, if it manages to uninstall them it will be able to add them again
[13:57] <Sidewinder> nrdb, Then, perhaps zykotick9 would be kind enough to assist you.. ;-)
[13:57] <TBarth> Hi, I need the mysql-query-browser on Ubuntu 12, but it s not supported anymore and the current binary build for linux crashs as soon as I select a database. Is it possible to build an own deb file from source?
[13:57] <zykotick9> nrdb: using an unsupported ubuntu is not a good idea (open to security holes)
[13:58] <zykotick9> Sidewinder: with 10.10 - no
[13:58] <realraven> which means I get my clipboard back and my full desktop resolution of 1680 * 1050
[13:58] <realraven> (it if works)
[13:58] <angel279> L3top: I got 3 results, what I should do?
[13:58] <Sidewinder> zykotick9, oops, didn't notice that it was EOL.. :(   Sorry.
[13:58] <angel279> L3top: but the package I want not exist there..
[13:58] <realraven> interesting message : "The headers for the current running kernel were not found."
[13:59] <realraven> so it is compiling now
[13:59] <L3top> angel279: you need to apply a bit of logic and see which is what you are looking for. Often the nomenclature changes a bit from release to release
[13:59] <mbartnic> hello
[13:59] <mbartnic> I have a little problem
[14:00] <realraven> ok, it looks like it reinstalled the driver. will reboot, brb ...
[14:00] <mbartnic> my ubuntu is in korean language
[14:00] <Sidewinder> nrdb, It doesn't answer your question, but you may wish to read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades  I hope it helps.
[14:00] <DarkApex> TBarth, may be this can help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92016
[14:00] <nrdb> Sidewinder, never like unity.
[14:00] <Sidewinder> Me neither.
[14:01] <L3top> mbartnic: is that not the language you want?
[14:01] <mbartnic> no
[14:01] <mbartnic> I want english
[14:01] <mbartnic> it was english
[14:01] <mbartnic> after reboot
[14:01] <mbartnic> boom
[14:01] <mbartnic> korean
[14:01] <Sidewinder> I want candy.
[14:01] <FloodBot1> mbartnic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:01] <L3top> !enter | mbartnic
[14:02] <mbartnic> sorry
[14:02] <angel279> L3top: thanks
[14:03] <L3top> np
[14:04] <realraven> hehe, I am back. guest additions reinstalled!
[14:04] <mbartnic> how can I change language back to english? and how it is posible that language changed on it's own?
[14:04] <DarkApex> realraven: At Last!
[14:04] <realraven> stueng: so unmounting the drive was a good tip
[14:04] <usr13> mbartnic: It is not possible.
[14:04] <stueng> realraven: shouldnt have been necesarry
[14:04] <redj0kR> hello i'm french what is this chat
[14:04] <OerHeks> mbartnic, are you sure it is Korean?
[14:04] <realraven> now the system is way faster because of the better graphics drivers
[14:04] <L3top> cat /etc/default/locale  mbartnic
[14:04] <stueng> good stuff
[14:04] <zykotick9> !fr | redj0kR
[14:04] <realraven> so now to get my old gnome setup back...
[14:05] <realraven> is there a way to set up gnome to show the path like foo/bar/foobar/ ?
[14:05] <usr13> realraven: from ___________?
[14:05] <OerHeks> mbartnic, i have read couple of times here about changing locales after update > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/993968
[14:05] <mbartnic> OerHeks, I am not sure. It may be chinesse or japan
[14:05] <realraven> user13 from Ubuntu 11.04
[14:05] <realraven> I upgraded to 11.10, got the dreadful unity, but installed gnome
[14:05] <stueng> !unity
[14:05] <usr13> realraven: Did you have gnome2?
[14:05] <OerHeks> mbartnic, if this affects you, would you confirm this bug/behaviour?
[14:05] <realraven> which is quite ok but not as nice as 11.04 gnome
[14:05] <stueng> !notunity
[14:06] <realraven> usr13: I don't know how do I fuind piut which gnome version is / was installed?
[14:06] <stueng> that bot needs to be updated for 12.04 ?
[14:06] <usr13> realraven: I switched to xfce4 and it's pretty nice.
[14:06] <realraven> I have an old versino of the VM so I can checkl there
[14:06] <mbartnic> OerHeks, I will look into that
[14:06] <stueng> realraven: which gnome ?
[14:06] <L3top> mbartnic: cat /etc/default/locale
[14:06] <stueng> realraven: I mean type that...
[14:06] <realraven> stueng: I don't know how do I find out whcih version is it????
[14:06] <stueng> lol
[14:06] <usr13> realraven: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[14:06] <realraven> usr13: waht is this?
[14:07] <stueng> realraven: you have unity atm yes?
[14:07] <mbartnic> L3top, LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
[14:07] <usr13> realraven: /join #xfce
[14:07] <OerHeks> mbartnic, this wiki can be a help changing it back >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[14:07] <L3top> hmmm very strange mbartnic. follow OerHeks links... and please confirm the bug if it applies
[14:08] <realraven> usr13: when I do that it will use 329 MB of space more :(
[14:08] <realraven> I am a bit short on space.
[14:08] <stueng> realraven: wait, what are you trying to do here... you currently have unity?
[14:08] <_skpl> gnome0shell is awesome.
[14:08] <realraven> stueng: I had unity but I managed to apot-get install another version of gnome
[14:08] <usr13> realraven: http://xubuntu.org/tour/
[14:08] <realraven> how do I find out which gnome shel;l i am currently running?
[14:08] <ojii> hi everyone, for some reason the game https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/bittriprunner/ doesn't show up on my local software center. how can I install/purchase it?
[14:09] <usr13> realraven: You are more-than-likely using what you just installed.
[14:09] <fidel_> realraven: what do you select while choosing your session in the login dialog right now?
[14:09] <realraven> usr13 thats what I think as well. I wqant to downgrade is so that I can copy / paste the current path
[14:09] <Vivekananda> Hello everyone. Using Grsync and there is a option to generate log file in the Gui but I dont see any such command in the corresponding rsync command displayed during a particular syncing. So how then is the log generated?
[14:09] <realraven> I hate the way everythign isn broken up into buttons
[14:09] <stueng> is xubuntu 12.04 ?
[14:10] <OerHeks> ojii that game appears to me fine, but costs $ 9.99
[14:10] <realraven> why not have a normal URL bar, like any file browser
[14:10] <realraven> that way I can never copy / paste a path
[14:10] <realraven> or edit a path
[14:10] <ojii> OerHeks, "There isn’t a software package called “bittriprunner” in your current software sources."
[14:10] <realraven> it is really sh!tty
[14:10] <stueng> !notunity
[14:10] <_skpl> realraven: try thunar
[14:10] <usr13> stueng: http://xubuntu.org/
[14:10] <stueng> ^ is that not applicable to you realraven
[14:10] <realraven> and then the old gnome had much smaller fonts., much nicer, and more icons and it had a system menu
[14:10] <OerHeks> ojii what ubuntu version are you on?
[14:11] <ojii> OerHeks, precise
[14:11] <fidel_> wondering if that unity/gnome-shell/alternative discussion will ever end ;)
[14:11] <realraven> ubottu: I have upgraded from natty.,
[14:11] <realraven> ubottu: sorry
[14:11]  * realraven wonders whether the others see how I am talking with a bot all the time
[14:12] <realraven> _skpl: what is thunar?
[14:12] <OerHeks> ojii so if you click that link on that page, software centre does not show? did you update the sources recently?
[14:12] <fidel_> realraven: a file-manager
[14:12] <usr13> realraven: It is a GUI file manager
[14:12] <realraven> stueng: what does !notunityu mean?
[14:12] <ojii> OerHeks, I did a apt-get update about 3 minutes ago
[14:12] <fidel_> realraven: pretty simplified i.e. if you compare it to nautilus
[14:12] <ojii> OerHeks, and correct, clicking that link gives me the message above
[14:12] <stueng> realraven: type it.. here
[14:12] <stueng> without hte last u
[14:12] <realraven> fidel_: anything that has a folder tree and a URI to enter a path will do me
[14:13] <usr13> realraven: http://thunar.xfce.org/
[14:13] <realraven> ok
[14:13] <stueng> usr13: in my current instllation, (with unity) I have had to disable comosition, to speed up XBMC.. will I have to do this with xubuntu ?
[14:13] <Vivekananda> Is it okay to ask a question about Grsync here? or should I try it somewhere else?
[14:13] <usr13> realraven: I like thunar, it's simple, easy to use and has all the features I need.
[14:13] <realraven> looks good it actually has an entry location bar
[14:14] <realraven> there used to be a system menu, that is gone in gnome3 as well?
[14:14] <fidel_> Vivekananda: should be ok - but dont expect instant replies as i doubt that all inhere are using rsync-ui's
[14:14] <realraven> and there used to be like 209 different themes, now there are 2
[14:14] <realraven> sorry I meant 20
[14:14] <usr13> stueng: I don't know, but I do know that xfce is more resource friendly (as in light-weight).
[14:14] <Vivekananda> k
[14:14] <realraven> usr13: so how do I install it
[14:15] <stueng> im starting to think I should have gone xubuntu for my media machine now
[14:15] <fidel_> realraven: gnome has a system settings dialog - similar to osx sys-prefs
[14:15] <usr13> realraven: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[14:15] <stueng> can I switch to xubuntu from ubuntu? or just apt-get install xubuntu ?
[14:15] <Vivekananda> I did ask though so am waiting for any replies. In the meantime I thought of running the Grsync thru terminal and seening how log is created. How else I can do it ?
[14:15] <stueng> aha
[14:15] <ojii> OerHeks, any other ideas?
[14:15] <fidel_> stueng: you can install i.e. ubuntu and then install kde, xfce etc
[14:15] <realraven> usr13: i thought just install thunar?
[14:16] <usr13> realraven: Oh, just thunar?  ... i dono ... just a sec.
[14:16] <realraven> usr13: I have to be carefuyl with xubuntu-desktop
[14:16] <fidel_> stueng: there is no need to reinstall the os only cause you might (temporary) use another desktop-environment
[14:16] <OerHeks> ojii not really, maybe parter repo is not activated?
[14:16] <realraven> usr13: if I can regain some of that space (320MB) I don't mind
[14:16] <jbwiv> guys, sticky edges in unity is driving me crazy on my multimonitor setup. I used to see a button to disable on the "Displays" dialog, but it's no longer there. I've set Edge Stop Velocity to 20 in ccsm, and "launcher edge stop overcome pressure" to 1. still, my  pointer sticks at screen edge. Any ideas how to solve?
[14:16] <realraven> but it is important that I keep a lot of space for thunderbnird, to test my extensions./
[14:16] <realraven> (I develop thunderbird extensions and patches)
[14:16] <stueng> realraven: http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/how-to-show-text-entry-address-bar-or-breadcrumbs-navigation-buttons-in-nautilus-after-ubuntu-10-04-upgrade/
[14:16] <usr13> realraven: sudo apt-get install thunar
[14:16] <stueng> this help ?
[14:16] <realraven> stueng: cool
[14:17] <realraven> stueng: will read it. usr13: will isntall that as well
[14:17] <stueng> how do I stop these connects and disconnects showing up in chat ?
[14:17] <realraven> usr13: at least that is only 24MB :)
[14:17] <stueng> is there a server command, rather than a clien tone
[14:17] <DJones> stueng: Which client are you using
[14:17] <L3top> realraven: if you are down to a Gb or so, you need a bigger/extra drive. It is ridiculous to try and get conservative NOW
[14:17] <ojii> OerHeks, I have all of them activated (+ about a billion PPAs)
[14:17] <stueng> some web thing
[14:17] <dbummy> ojii: did you click on the e-mail me the link button on the site?
[14:17] <realraven> stueng: use chatZilla
[14:17] <ojii> OerHeks, thanks though for trying
[14:17] <realraven> :P
[14:17] <stueng> is it http based?
[14:17] <usr13> stueng: /ignore #ubuntu all -public -actions
[14:18] <stueng> thanks usr13
[14:18] <realraven> L3top: I have 3.5 Gig free - but... once I load my mail that dwindles
[14:18] <ojii> dbummy, no, I don't trust email me forms too much
[14:18] <DJones> stueng: I don't know whether you hide joins/parts using the freenode web interface
[14:18] <stueng> ignore unknown command
[14:18] <usr13> realraven: You need to add another drive.
[14:18] <realraven> stueng: what chat client are you using?
[14:18] <L3top> realraven: I stand by my statement
[14:18] <dbummy> ojii: I hear that... especially if you have to purchase something too :)
[14:18] <realraven> usr13: good idea.
[14:18] <realraven> how?
[14:18] <realraven> :) LOL
[14:18] <ojii> dbummy, touché
[14:18] <stueng> webchat.freenode.net
[14:18] <usr13> realraven: ebay
[14:19] <realraven> usr13: LOL
[14:19] <realraven> usr13: I have 4 drives in my machine alread
[14:19] <realraven> already
[14:19] <realraven> 2.5 Terabytes
[14:19] <usr13> realraven: Why do you only have 3.5G when you have 4 drives?
[14:19] <L3top> realraven: ^^
[14:19] <realraven> the problem is I cannot resize the image without reinstalling linux
[14:19] <usr13> realraven: Why not?
[14:19] <realraven> at least I am too dumb to do that
[14:20] <realraven> usr13: I am afraid to lose myu ubuntu installation
[14:20] <realraven> and I do not have an install image for 11.10 as I upgraded
[14:20] <realraven> and slow internet connection (takes several days to download)
[14:20] <L3top> realraven: why dont you put your /home directory somewhere else? and it is not difficult to resize... and... you can backup
[14:20] <DJones> stueng: If you click on the IRC icon in the left of the window, and then options, there is a tick box to hide joins/parts/quits
[14:20] <usr13> realraven: It's not that you need to resize the image.  You simply need to rob Peter and pay Paul, (shrink some other partition or drive and claim that space for /home )
[14:20] <realraven> L3top: I would be happy if I could just put my thunderbird profiles on a new share
[14:20] <realraven> which is what I did and then thunderbird got hosed
[14:21] <L3top> realraven: you can clone your entire partition to an image using clonezilla before trying anything.
[14:21] <stueng> DJones: thank god.. thanks
[14:21] <mbartnic> OerHeks, I tried to change the language to english, but after I log in next time it changes to cn and wants to change folder names: You have logged in in a new language. You can automatically update the names of some standard folders in your home folder to match this language. The update would change the following folders: " and there it lists home, downloaded , documents and others as such
[14:21] <usr13> realraven: L3top's advice is good
[14:22] <ablen> does anybody use VIA VT2021 as audio chipset? is it supported?
[14:22] <realraven> stueng: o my god. why do they have a shortcut only command. BAAD design
[14:22] <realraven> so the magic command is CTRL_L
[14:23] <paul424> HI I look for someone to build the packages for the Open dungeons project on ubuntu ,,, and other distros as well , ,,, any package-savvy people in here ?
[14:23] <stueng> realraven: dunno, tbh I hadnt looked at it until you mantioned it even though it was pissing me off too
[14:23] <realraven> usr13: I don't understand it.
[14:23] <ikonia> paul424: what do you need ?
[14:23] <usr13> realraven: What?  Resizing partitions?
[14:23] <realraven> usr13 - I can do that from Virtualbox
[14:23] <realraven> it is the safe / restore of the linux image that I am worried about
[14:24] <usr13> realraven: Oh, you have installed Ubuntu as guest in VB?
[14:24] <paul424> ikonia: this project needs installable packages for major linux distros
[14:24] <paul424> http://opendungeons.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page
[14:24] <realraven> usr13: exactly
[14:24] <stueng> thats why you clone your installation before you mess with it :D
[14:24] <realraven> and I am running out of space
[14:24] <usr13> realraven: That should be simple enough, just tell VB you want it to be larger.
[14:24] <jbwiv> guys, sticky edges in unity is driving me crazy on my multimonitor setup. I used to see a button to disable on the "Displays" dialog, but it's no longer there. I've set Edge Stop Velocity to 20 in ccsm, and "launcher edge stop overcome pressure" to 1. still, my  pointer sticks at screen edge. Any ideas how to solve?
[14:24] <realraven> I have tons of space if I relocate it. But I dunno how to tell ubuntu that it now has a bigger partition
[14:24] <stueng> jbwiv: look for compiz config settings mangaer
[14:25] <realraven> usr13: I can do that, but I think ubuntu is too stupid to realize it has more space ?
[14:25] <usr13> realraven: You don't tell Ubuntu, (Ubuntu is only a guest).
[14:25] <paul424> ikonia: ?
[14:25] <stueng> jbwiv: in the software center thingy
[14:25] <usr13> realraven: What is the Host OS?
[14:25] <realraven> usr13: I know, but even if I move usr13 to a bigger partition, doesn't it need to be told
[14:25] <urthmover> Where is "sudo command" logged in 12.04?  I'm  not finding /var/log/secure
[14:25] <realraven> usr13: XP Pro SP3
[14:25] <realraven> runs ok
[14:26] <Zzarkc> Hello. I'm having a file permissions issue, but I can't seem to change it. I just used filezilla to download a lot of files, and I even ran a chmod 777 -R ./ with no results. Any ideas?
[14:26] <realraven> (don't ask)
[14:26] <ranfuu> I run it
[14:26] <usr13> realraven: Ok, well, to my way of thinking, your system is upside down.  (I would start over and make Linux the host OS).
[14:26] <realraven> ur13: I know you would. :)
[14:26] <stueng> usr13: once he allocated more space to the gues, how does he extend into this new free space?
[14:26] <realraven> usr: there is a ton of software that won';t run in a VM
[14:26] <dbummy> Zzarkc: Did you do it as root? (or super user)
[14:27] <codename-nos> abhinav_singh: /usr/bin/sudo
[14:27] <realraven> e.g. Cubase
[14:27] <mbartnic> OerHeks, L3top I still have problem with my language
[14:27] <usr13> realraven: I use XP too, but *rarely* (if ever).
[14:27] <Zzarkc> dbummy: Nah, I didn't run filezilla that way, but it appears it did from ls -l. Root is the owner.
[14:27] <stueng> usr13: I think he wants to know how to extend the root partition into the new free space he allocates to the VM ?
[14:27] <usr13> stueng: He will simply move /home to a new partition.
[14:27] <realraven> usr13: I had tried studio64 but it wasn't really an option as I nbeed to share projects with another studio
[14:27] <realraven> stueng: you got it
[14:27] <stueng> usr13: so you can extend? like you can in say windows
[14:28] <stueng> cant*
[14:28] <realraven> stueng: in windows I would simply use paragon
[14:28] <stueng> realraven: in windows you can simply use disk manager
[14:28] <realraven> with that it is easy peasy
[14:28] <realraven> stueng: you mean manage disks in NT, right>?
[14:28] <stueng> usr13: you can grow a partition into free space... can you not with linux?
[14:28] <realraven> bit wary of that as it might destroy my linux partitions
[14:29] <codename-nos> stueng: install gparted
[14:29] <compdoc> ubuntu creates a single large partition, and a swap. you can grow or shrink either of those, and ubuntu sees it
[14:29] <stueng> codename-nos: and compdoc good...
[14:29] <dbummy> try sudo chown -R user:group * (replaceing user and group with your non-su account name)
[14:29] <codename-nos> ?
[14:29] <usr13> example: If you have /  in 20G of space.  Expand the 20G to 100G So, now you have 80G free.  Make an 80G partition for /home  Move /home to the new 80G partition.
[14:29] <stueng> codename-nos: I am glad its possible
[14:30] <codename-nos> stueng: i m glad too ! hahaha
[14:30] <stueng> usr13: thats not very dynamic, one would much rather simply grow or shrink into free space
[14:30] <usr13> stueng: And yes, (if you have LVM installed, you can grow partition rather easily.
[14:30] <stueng> realraven: seems its failry stragiht forward to allocate more free space to your VM
[14:31] <Zzarkc> dbummy: Nothing...
[14:31] <realraven> right, in virtual box I can look at storage there is a vdi file with 10.5 GByte virtuasl size
[14:31] <Zzarkc> The owner hasn't changed or anything.
[14:31] <dbummy> Zzarkc: when you do a ll or a ls -l does it still show root as the owner
[14:31] <Zzarkc> dbummy: Yep.
[14:31] <stueng> realraven: can you just change its size?
[14:31] <usr13> stueng: I don't see the need for being dynamic with partition space.  How often do you really need to change something like that?  (With any foresight at all, maybe once every 3 or 4 years?)
[14:32] <realraven> stueng: I think I recall that that was possible somehow... I can't rememebr
[14:32] <dbummy> Zzarkc: is there a sticky bit on the permissions?     a number before the 3 numbers     ex.   1755   - 1 would be the sticky bit
[14:32] <usr13> !lvm | realraven
[14:32] <stueng> realraven: with vmware you can do it on the fly... but I imagine with vbox you will need to shutdown the guest and then increase its size
[14:32] <dbummy> Zzarkc: on the folder itself or the files
[14:33] <dbummy> Zzarkc: ususally the folder comes up as a green highlight also if ls is done in parent dir.
[14:33] <stueng> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/virtualbox-shrink-expand-disks.html
[14:33] <realraven> usr13: I don't need raid, thanks very much :)
[14:33] <stueng> ignore that
[14:33] <stueng> thats for a linux host
[14:33] <Zzarkc> dbummy: Ummmm... I've got -rwxrwxrwx before a number 1, and then follows the root and root.
[14:34] <usr13> stueng: realraven  Here is what I do, and what I think is pretty good arrangement.  Just get a good KVM and hit PrintScrn twice to change from XP to Ubuntu
[14:34] <Zzarkc> dbummy: -rwxrwxrwx   1 root           root       999 May 21 10:01 object.h  <-- That is a line entry.
[14:34] <realraven> stueng: I know there is a way to tell a VBox image to be bigger, mjkust google that
[14:34] <Bobrm2> Has anyone experienced difficulty with UbuntuOne's control box, while using Ubuntu 12.04?
[14:34] <usr13> realraven: Ok, the part about raid was irrelevant, was wanting you to see the part about LVM.
[14:34] <realraven> usr13 ok
[14:35] <stueng> usr13: I have no need for KVM or anything I have seperate machines for seperate jobs with seperate input/output
[14:35] <stueng> @ work I use vSphere DRS clusters
[14:35] <realraven> stueng: I think adding a disk would be ok as well
[14:35] <realraven> (virtual disk)
[14:35] <usr13> realraven: stueng *(In other words, two boxes, side by side)*
[14:35] <Zzarkc> dbummy: Oooh. Just found an article about NTFS, which is what that drive is.
[14:36] <stueng> realraven: adding a virtual disk will mean you have to have seperate partitions, with different mount points in the partitions. If you can extend the disk then you can keep your faily stragiht forware mount structure
[14:36] <dbummy> Zzarkc: yeah.... if it's a ntfs drive it won't have linux permissions on it
[14:36] <stueng> extending is more risky though
[14:36] <realraven> so I need clonezilla first
[14:36] <Zzarkc> dbummy: Right. So how do I fix it from there?
[14:36] <stueng> realraven: you shouldnt
[14:36] <Zzarkc> dbummy: I have my fstab open...
[14:36] <stueng> realraven: do you have sufficnet space to backup your entire VM?
[14:37] <dbummy> Zzarkc: What exactly are you trying to do??? copy the files elsewhere?
[14:37] <realraven> stueng: is the bear a catholic? does the pope crap in the woods?
[14:37] <usr13> stueng: realraven   I always like /home to be on a separate partition, (or hard drive, as the case may be).
[14:37] <flash_> Hi guys. I just updated to Ubuntu 12.04 and I'm using gnome classic. My workspaces have been reset to 1 and even though I change them to 4, once I log out and back in I have only 1. How do I make this change permanent?
[14:37] <ikonia> realraven: enough please.
[14:37] <Zzarkc> dbummy: I'm dual booting, and I have a "Storage" partition that is accessible to both my windows and linux OSs. I put a lot of my projects under that partition.
[14:38] <realraven> ikonie: sure. just had to quote freak brothers once :)
[14:38] <ikonia> realraven: thanks
[14:38] <stueng> tbh I dont understand the quote
[14:38] <realraven> ikonie: np ;-0
[14:38] <dbummy> Zzarkc: You can't access your files in windows?
[14:38] <realraven> stueng: in other owrds "yes"
[14:39] <dbummy> Zzarkc: You won't be able to put a DAC on a ntfs system  (permissions)
[14:39] <realraven> usr13: I think that would be feasible. although it is nice if I can have just one VDI file
[14:39] <stueng> realraven: ok then backup your entire VM. once complete, EXTEND the size of the virtual disk and then use LVM or whatever to extend into this free space at the end of your partition. The alternative is to add a second virtual disk and move your /home or whatever is taking up space onto the new disk
[14:40] <usr13> realraven: Just gave you most of the viable options - choice(s) are yours.
[14:40] <Zzarkc> dbummy: Nah, I can just fine in windows. I can read the files just fine in linux too. I've never had this problem before when I create the files, it's just now when I'm not the creator.
[14:40] <realraven> stueng: I like that one
[14:40] <realraven> !. backup the VM to a new file
[14:40] <realraven> 2. extend the size ( which I need to find out)
[14:41] <realraven> 3. use LVM to grow the partition
[14:41] <realraven> is this correct?