[01:35] <veebers> barry: in case your still around :-) I filed a bug here for the issue I mentioned: http://bugs.python.org/issue22627
[01:47] <barry> veebers: cool, nosied.  i'll try to look in more detail tomorrow
[01:48] <veebers> barry: awesome cheers /me deletes email to barry :-)


[08:22] <frankster> got a wierd issue with a remote. evtest and keytable -t work. yet irw and mythtv don't work. lirc conf file has the exact key events that I see in evtest or keytable -t yet nothing comes through. if lirc is running, evtest complains about something locking the device, and when I stop lirc then evteest doesnt complain aany more so I know that lirc is listening to the right device.
[08:23] <frankster> any thoughts why irw doesn't show anything?
[09:22] <SteveGoodey> frankster: This of any use? http://linhes.org/projects/linhes/wiki/Architecture_and_Customization
[09:22] <Zinn> [linhes.org] LinHES - Architecture and Customization
[14:16] <frankster> SteveGoody: thanks for that. i'll work my way through it
[16:27] <frankster> SteveGoodey: no joy with that, i'm gonna have to debug lircd
[16:27] <SteveGoodey> frankster: Sorry about that, good luck.
[17:06] <innatech> speaking of lircd, my windows remote stopped working after upgrading to 12.04. Haven't looked into it yet.
[18:24] <frankster> innatech: mceusb remote?
[18:24] <innatech> yep.
[18:24] <frankster> does it use rc-6 protocol?
[18:25] <frankster> one of the problems with my remote was that ubuntu's devinput keymap is out of date
[18:25] <frankster> although you onyl see the message for this if you rebuild lirc with debugging on
[18:25] <innatech> don't know what that is.
[18:25] <innatech> it's a generic mediagate mce remote, IR w/a usb receiver.
[18:26] <frankster> one thing I had to do was download http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/devinput/lircd.conf.devinput
[18:26] <Zinn> [lirc.sourceforge.net] N/A
[18:26] <frankster> and replace the one provided by ubuntu
[18:27] <innatech> 'k.
[18:27] <frankster> also i found that at least some of the time, lirc seemed to change the protocol on the remote (ir-keytable -r shows you) so that it onyl had the lirc protocol. but in fact I needed to have rc6 protocol
[18:39] <innatech> I don't have a file by that name in /etc/lirc, just lircd.conf itself, which is blank but for an include of /usr/share/lirc/remotes/mceusb/lircd.conf.mceusb
[18:40] <innatech> oh, I think I get it.
[18:40] <innatech> One sec.
[18:43] <innatech> ok, I replaced that file and reloaded lirc but no joy.
[19:04] <innatech> So...is there some reason my HDHR won't stop streaming to my backend, even when its not being watched?
[19:04] <innatech> It
[19:04] <innatech> never stops sending out data at about 38kib/s
[19:05] <innatech> Googling suggests this is the backend scanning for EIT info? But I have this disabled.
[19:08] <innatech> ah, toggling the setting did the trick.
[19:19] <innatech> also, is there a metadata format I can use in sickbeard that Mythvideo will understand when it scans folders deposited in its hierarchy?
[19:19] <innatech> XBMC's?
[19:21] <frankster> ah ok you're using it slightly differntly to me
[19:21] <frankster> you've got mceusb drive
[19:21] <frankster> but mine is via linux inpuit layer
[19:21] <frankster> so your /usr/share/lirc/remotes/mceusb/lircd.conf.mceusb might not need replacinmg
[19:22] <innatech> I didn't replace that, I replaced the devmap in /usr/share/lirc/remotes/ or whatever
[19:23] <innatech> rather /usr/share/lirc/remotes/devinput/lircd.conf.devinput
[19:24] <frankster> ah ok
[19:24] <innatech> should I replace the included conf as well?
[19:24] <frankster> well the way you have it configured it wont use that file
[19:24] <innatech> ah.
[19:24] <frankster> well you've configured lirc (presumably correctly) to use the mceusb driver rather than the input layer
[19:24] <frankster> so your situation is a bit different to mine
[19:25] <innatech> I'm doing what ever the mythbuntu control center did for me.
[19:25] <frankster> you probably selected mceusb in that when you chose the remote
[19:25] <innatech> yes.
[19:25] <frankster> if you had it working like that before 12.04 then I assume thats correct
[19:25] <innatech> yep.
[19:26] <frankster> sorry i cant help :)
[19:26] <innatech> that's OK. And for the record it's set to "Window Media Center Transceivers/Remotes (all)"
[19:26] <innatech> which seems pretty clear.
[19:28] <SteveGoodey> innatech: You might want to try mythtv-users.
[19:29] <innatech> I could. The people there usually label problems like this distro-specific tho.
[19:31] <SteveGoodey> They're normally pretty helpfull.
[19:31] <innatech> Yeah, I'll try.
[19:32] <innatech> Where do I alter the runtime options of lircd? In  /etc/init.d/ ?
[19:34] <frankster> do you mean arguments?
[19:34] <innatech> yep.
[19:35] <innatech> found it.
[19:35] <frankster> there is a setting in /etc/lirc/lirc/hardware./conf
[19:35] <frankster> I mean /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[19:38] <innatech> huh. "ls /etc/lir*" shows /etc/lircd.conf but I cant list the individual file or stat it.
[19:39] <innatech> stat: cannot stat `lircd.conf': No such file or directory
[19:40] <innatech> nm, I'm stupid bash mistake.
[19:43] <innatech> same as this unanswered question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/166812/after-upgrading-to-12-04-from-10-10-my-mythbuntu-standard-mceusb-remote-no-longe
[19:43] <Zinn> [askubuntu.com] After upgrading to 12.04 from 10.10 my mythbuntu standard MCEUSB remote no longer works - Ask Ubuntu
[19:43] <innatech> I'll duplicate the irw test.
[19:45] <innatech> yeah, it's receiving the keycodes fine
[19:46] <innatech> mythfrontend is just ignoring them
[19:46] <innatech> and nothing shows in the frontend log.
[19:51] <innatech> that does seem like a question for myth-users.
[20:10] <frankster> is your lirc mapping setup>?
[20:10] <frankster> mythbuntu-lirc-generator or something like that
[20:26] <innatech> yeah, that's what reapplying the dynamic mapping setting did.
[20:27] <innatech> the upgrade dance apparently wipes the old one, and reactivates LIRC post upgrade without regenerating it.


[03:25] <mac9416> Hello, I am trying to run "bzr branch lp:~excid3/keryx/devel" and I get this: "Host key verification failed. bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist."
[03:25] <mac9416> It didn't ask me for my SSH key passphrase as usual.
[03:26] <mac9416> Perhaps it's because I created the key /before/ installing bzr and it somehow doesn't know how to use it?
[03:27] <mwhudson> mac9416: that sounds more like ssh is bitching because you have an old key for bazaar.launchpad.net in known_hosts
[03:27] <mac9416> mwhudson, OK, where is known_hosts?
[03:27] <mwhudson> mac9416: are you on linux?
[03:27] <mac9416> Yessir
[03:28] <mwhudson> mac9416: ssh-keygen -R bazaar.launchpad.net will make ssh forget about the key it knows
[03:28] <mac9416> OK
[03:29] <mac9416> Output: "fopen: No such file or directory"
[03:31] <mwhudson> !?
[03:31] <mac9416> Haha
[03:31] <mwhudson> mac9416: can you run "ssh <your lp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and pastebin what that says?
[03:31] <mac9416> sure
[03:32] <mac9416> mwhudson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/283454/
[03:33] <mac9416> Doesn't look good :-(
[03:33] <mac9416> Waaaaaaait....
[03:33] <mwhudson> mac9416: did you get a chance to type "yes" to the question?
[03:33] <mac9416> Hehehe
[03:33] <mac9416> I'm used to commands defaulting to yes XD
[03:34] <mac9416> Works now, thanks so much. :-)
[03:34] <mwhudson> openssh is somewhat less trusted than most :-)
[03:34] <mwhudson> np
[03:34] <mwhudson> *trusting
[03:34] <mac9416> BTW, it says "No shells on this server." then exits. :-P
[03:35] <mac9416> But I guess I can't really expect to SSH into launchpad ;-P
[03:35] <mwhudson> yes, that's expected
[03:35] <mwhudson> but it's easier to see what's going on when you get bzr out of the way sometimes
[03:35] <mac9416> Yeah, I see what you mean.
[06:17] <al-maisan> Good morning!
[07:27] <neonoe_> Hello, I am looking for a link describing all general services that launchpad provides. Do you have any good bookmarks? (with google, queries with words such as "forum" or "mailing-list" do not help)
[07:28] <noodles775> neonoe_: have you looked at the tour?
[07:28] <neonoe_> yes
[07:29] <noodles775> That's the one link I'd recommend for describing all the general services that Launchpad provides.
[07:29] <neonoe_> yes but it is not precise enough
[07:30] <noodles775> neonoe_: In what sense - what specific information are you after? (the sub-pages of the tour seem quite specific?)
[07:31] <noodles775> For eg, https://edge.launchpad.net/+tour/bugs
[07:31] <neonoe_> indeed. But are there newsgroups ?
[07:31] <neonoe_> code search ?
[07:34] <noodles775> neonoe_: newsgroups? There are mailing lists - and email interface for many things (such as bug communication, merge proposals for code etc.)
[07:37] <noodles775> neonoe_: and you can browse the code of any open project on Launchpad, but not search (I'm not sure what you mean - search all projects for a specific piece of code?)
[07:39] <neonoe_> indeed, you are right : newsgroup do not really matter if we have mailing-list
[07:40] <neonoe_> in fact, I am looking for a collaboration tool in order to develop an mozilla addon
[07:40] <neonoe_> and I found such link: http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/WhyMozdev
[07:41] <neonoe_> Then, I wonder if i could make a comparison with launchpad
[07:41] <noodles775> Yeah, that'd be interesting to see... I'm looking through it now.
[07:42] <neonoe_> I tried to complete it with launchpad  in a new column
[07:43] <neonoe_> but I am not sure that we can make it (but i would be interesting)
[07:43] <neonoe_> s/i would/it would/
[07:45] <noodles775> Yeah, there are certainly a lot of areas where Launchpad is much more than a code-hosting option (eg., see both translations and ubuntu package building/hosting on the tour), but it is also bug-reporting+code-hosting of course.
[07:45] <noodles775> And Launchpad doesn't *yet* have a wiki option - but it's planned... :)
[07:46] <neonoe_> exactly
[07:47] <neonoe_> ok thank you for help
[07:48] <noodles775> np
[07:50] <neonoe_> noodles775: can we have a blog of the project ?
[07:50] <neonoe_> with launchpad ?
[07:51] <neonoe_> I should be more precise: a blog of the project that I could develop for example
[07:52] <lifeless> you can make announcements
[07:52] <lifeless> and there is RSS for them
[07:52] <neonoe_> ok
[07:53] <noodles775> neonoe_: and the announcements are displayed on the project's home page (see the right hand column on the Launchpad project itself).
[07:54] <noodles775> https://launchpad.net/launchpad
[07:54] <neonoe_> ok I understand
[08:23] <lodder> Can you remove a translation template from launchpad?
[08:34] <lodder> Can you remove a translation template from launchpad?
[08:36] <mdke> lodder: you should open a question here for someone to take care of it, I think: https://answers.launchpad.net/rosetta
[08:43] <lodder> mdke: thx
[09:02] <kfogel> beuno: yes.  Our rules for that are rather opaque to users.
[10:32] <thumper> sinzui: http://greghaynes.github.com/kobby/ for kobby
[13:17] <HelloCatFood1> Is there a way to search for bugs that haven't had any comments?
[13:30] <mdeslaur> I've got a weird search bug with launchpad: click on Advanced search, check "In progress", enter "ubuntu-security" as bug subscriber, check "only bug with patches available". No results. Bug #430064 should show up in that query, but doesn't.
[13:30] <mdeslaur> oh, my bad
[13:30] <mdeslaur> the attachments aren't tagged as patches
[13:30] <mdeslaur> please ignore me
[13:30] <noodles775> ah, what was it?
[14:23] <Mez> 2 questions: what is "gravity" regarding a bug, and if it's not the "affects me too" - where do we find information for that?
[14:26] <noodles775> Mez, where are you seeing the word "gravity"?
[14:30] <Mez> http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bugnumbers/yesterday.html# <--
[14:30] <Mez> looks like LP
[14:30] <Ursinha-afk> Mez, but it's not :)
[14:31] <Ursinha> Mez, that is a report generated by qa team to make it look like lp
[14:31] <noodles775> heh... like a mid-design-change version of lp ;)
[14:36] <Ursinha> bdmurray, hey, I think you're the best person to talk to Mez what a bug gravity means
[14:37] <matsubara> Mez, "Curious about how gravity is computed? See the legend at the bottom of the page."
[14:38] <Mez> yeah, found that after :D
[14:39] <matsubara> :-)
[14:42] <ChogyDan> I'm getting this error: Entity-body was not a well-formed JSON document.
[14:43] <Ursinha> ChogyDan, this is a known bug
[14:43] <ChogyDan> ok, thanks
[14:43] <Ursinha> ChogyDan, bug 423924
[16:15] <dbs> Is there any update to the open beta part of the roadmap? https://help.launchpad.net/API/Roadmap hasn't been updated since 2008 :(
[16:16] <dbs> Our project is considering moving to launchpad.net, but we want to ensure that it will be easy to export our bug data etc if we decide to subsequently move on
[16:17] <beuno> dbs, the API for bugs is mostly done
[16:18] <beuno> as for getting your data, if you need to export it, and the API doesn't satisfy you, we will export it for you
[16:18] <beuno> we've done it before
[16:20] <dbs> beuno: good to know; I had been reading through the api docs and started wishing for a nice simple conneg with json output for a given bug / list of bugs, but we'll be happy with an API :)
[16:20] <beuno> dbs, I can't think of any data you can't get out of the python API
[16:22] <dbs> beuno: right-o, thanks a bunch
[16:22] <beuno> dbs, np, and welcome  :)
[16:47] <mdz> what happened to the bug page link to +activity? I can't see one
[16:48] <thumper> mdz: I think it was removed
[16:48] <beuno> mdz, it was dropped, and we're working on getting all that interleaved in the comments
[16:48] <beuno> "all that it has"
[16:48] <beuno> mdz, if there's anything specific you miss, let us know so we can prioritize
[16:49] <mdz> beuno: I miss having the link :-/
[16:49] <mdz> I will be looking at a bug and think "when did this bug get assigned?" or "who updated the status last?"
[16:50] <beuno> mdz, ok, I'll figure this out with deryck, either put the link back somewhere, or have a very short term plan to get all the information interleaved
[16:52] <mdz> beuno: even if it's interleaved, it's much easier to answer that question by reading +activity than scanning through for interleaved comments
[16:54] <beuno> mdz, I think that due to the amount of data, we will have to seperate comments from activity, or some activity, so maybe it will just be a toggle
[17:17] <Noldorin> hello. how do i create a project group in launchpad?
[17:24] <mrevell> Noldorin: Right now you need to file a request with us at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad --- here's our FAQ on the subject: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/210
[17:24] <Noldorin> mrevell: ah, thanks. i was suspecting as much
[17:26] <ahasenack> guys, I still get timeouts when trying to view a milestone in a project. This milestone has hundreds of private bugs. I'm wondering if it's related to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/268612
[17:26] <ahasenack> https://launchpad.net/landscape-project/+milestone/later is the milestone url, and this is the oops I just got: OOPS-1371A2189
[17:45] <rugby471> is there any way I can change my username on launchpad, I cannot seem to delete my ppa so it is dsiabled
[17:45] <rugby471> *disabled
[17:48] <rugby471> I want to change ~rugby471 to ~and471
[17:48] <rugby471> is there anyone launchpad admin that can do this for me?
[17:51] <jpds> rugby471: Best to file a quesiton about it here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion - so the admins can track it.
[17:51] <rugby471> jpds: thankyou
[19:04] <francisco_t> Hi, Is there a way to delete a empty PPA?
[19:05] <ScottK> francisco_t: There is not.
[19:05] <francisco_t> ok, thank you
[20:09] <stefanlsd> Any known issue with staging.l.n atm?
[20:13] <Noldorin> are the admins aware that there's a bug in setting bug supervisor currently?
[20:13] <Noldorin> (oh the irony)
[20:28] <stefanlsd> Can anyone fix staging.l.n?
[20:28] <james_w> hi stefanlsd
[20:29] <stefanlsd> james_w: hihi
[20:36] <stefanlsd> My wishlist for launchpad: please make staging more redundant and available. dev work takes sooo much longer when staging has issues.
[21:15] <Noldorin> hello. are the admins aware that there's a bug in setting the project bug supervisor currently?
[21:24] <Noldorin> anyone..?
[22:41] <tormod> hi, https://edge.launchpad.net/~davidelizondo2006 is going mad with a number of bug reports, can you stop him?
[23:10] <hggdh> can a LP admin please act on https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/84565
[23:10] <hggdh> ?