[04:22] <cafuego> Coz it sounds to me like part of the installer just didn't run.
[04:23] <bob2> felix_: you're sure sudo wouldn't take your user password?
[04:23] <charlie_> I want to get to irc.freenode.net
[04:23] <cafuego> charlie_: That's where you are now.
[04:23] <alzabar> what the command to reconfigure x
[04:23] <felix_> felix@renouveau:~$ sudo -s
[04:23] <felix_> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 19 <<<
[04:23] <cafuego> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:23] <charlie_> ok thanks
[04:23] <alzabar> thanks
[04:23] <bob2> felix_: no, before you touched it
[04:23] <charlie_> join #ltsp
[04:24] <felix_> before, it was saying that user was not in the sudoers group
[04:24] <cafuego> felix_: You mentioned running 'adduser'...
[04:25] <cafuego> felix_: Did you not create your account using the installer dialog?
[04:25] <felix_> yeas cafeugo
[04:26] <felix_> i did a adduser felix adm     after i saw i was unable to sudo,       and an adduser felix admin   (it said admin group didnt exist)
[04:26] <remyforbes777> i thought it was root not admin
[04:26] <felix_> not the same thing.
[04:27] <bob2> remyforbes777: no
[04:27] <cafuego> felix_: The 'admin' group should have been created in the install process. So something failed to run, which emans one or more parts of the system are not set up correctly.
[04:27] <felix_> cafeugo, eh
[04:27] <cafuego> felix_: So i think your best bet is to do a new install.
[04:27] <felix_> well looks like a reinstall
[04:27] <bob2> felix_: you really saw no errors during the install?
[04:27] <Xorlev> IPv6: Anyone have experience with the tspc tunneling client (for freenet6 (hexago))?
[04:27] <felix_> except one or two about fonts  nope
[04:27] <cafuego> Reinstalling is probably going to be quciker then trying to track down and fix the original problem.
[04:28] <bob2> Xorlev: best to just ask your question
[04:28] <felix_> so, i'll come back... ;)
[04:28] <felix_> thx
[04:28] <cafuego> Xorlev: sudo apt-get install freenet6; vi /etc/tspc.conf ?
[04:29] <Xorlev> bob2: It appears when I run the tspc tunneling client (either compiled off their site, or from packages) it runs fine at first, then a few hours later it crashes or something, preventing sudo actions, really hiking load avgs, IPv6 traffic stops, and ultimately leads to me rebooting.
[04:30] <procrastinationn> yo
[04:30] <Xorlev> I have to a hard reboot as well because most commands stop working and programs don't stop.
[04:30] <bob2> Xorlev: read dmesg
[04:30] <procrastinationn> how do i get mps's to play ?
[04:30] <procrastinationn> mp3's
[04:31] <cafuego> !codecs
[04:31] <cafuego> arrgh
[04:31] <procrastinationn> lol
[04:31] <cafuego> procrastinationn: http://wiki.ubuntu.com?RestrictedFormats
[04:31] <cafuego> s/?/\//
[04:31] <cafuego> I should chuck a backup bot on my desktop box
[04:31] <Xorlev> bob2: I haven't run it in hours, but would it be in /var/log/syslog?
[04:32] <ssdd534> what is ubuntus mirror http address?
[04:32] <Pluk> weird installed breezy and now im missing my us_intl keymap
[04:33] <cafuego> http://XX.archive.ubuntu.com/
[04:33] <cafuego> where XX is your local country code
[04:33] <Xorlev> bob2: This might be it...I remember this from my console a few days ago when I was trying to reboot. Sep 28 07:37:37 Munimentum kernel: unregister_netdevice: waiting for tun to become free. Usage count = 1 Message repeats over and over
[04:33] <Samhain`> is there a fix for ubuntu only showing 640x480?
[04:34] <TokenBad> I didn't know blender for linux was so popular
[04:34] <Xorlev> Samhain`: I run at 1280x1024...it could be your graphics driver.
[04:34] <gpd> Is there a breezy-extras repository anywhere yet? (or libdvdcss.deb)
[04:34] <Samhain`> I just installed the nvidia driver
[04:34] <Samhain`> and it's working
[04:34] <nomasteryoda|w> good
[04:34] <Samhain`> but now I only get 640x480
[04:34] <nomasteryoda|w> Samhain`, you can configure that
[04:34] <Xorlev> Are the resolutions set correctly in xorg.conf?
[04:34] <bob2> Xorlev: reading dmesg when the problem first starts would be enlightening, I'd suspect the kernel oopsed
[04:34] <Samhain`> they may not be
[04:35] <nomasteryoda|w> Samhain`, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:35] <alzabar> exit
[04:35] <nomasteryoda|w> it will write a new one
[04:35] <alzabar> quit
[04:35] <b3nw> is it possible to have xfce running twice via vnc sessions? it works without a hitch for the 1st session but won't start for a 2nd
[04:35] <alzabar> woops
[04:35] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[04:35] <nomasteryoda|w> b3nw, it should
[04:35] <Erron> hihi
[04:35] <nomasteryoda|w> most x will
[04:36] <b3nw> dies on me
[04:36] <b3nw> when I start the 2nd vncserver
[04:36] <b3nw> xfce4 won't start
[04:37] <Xorlev> Reading my kern.log and syslog, it appears the problem started at 1:39am, no other messages other than the same which repeats over and over.
[04:38] <b3nw> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2626
[04:38] <b3nw> is the paste
[04:38] <Erron> how can I remove var exports
[04:39] <fr33mind> Ninjew: that's work very well and behond!
[04:39] <fr33mind> Ninjew: The console has a better hires!!! :)  very cool.  But... even with the "splash" parameter, I loose the splash.
[04:40] <Ninjew> fr33mind: Oh really
[04:40] <Ninjew> fr33mind: p.s. sorry that I had to run
[04:40] <Ninjew> fr33mind: hmm, I'm not sure about how to get the splash back
[04:40] <fr33mind> Ninjew: ok thanks :)
[04:41] <Ninjew> fr33mind: I'm not exactly sure how ubuntu does its bootsplash in particular
[04:41] <Lars_G> Seveas: Are you celebrating?
[04:41] <fr33mind> Question: Where do evolution save account list ?  (it's not in .evolution)
[04:41] <Lars_G> fr33mind: Might be somewhere under .gnome
[04:42] <Ninjew> fr33mind: It will probably work if you drop back down to a lower resolution, but then you lose the hires console
[04:42] <Ninjew> fr33mind: Ask around, someone might know how to get bootsplash working with a 1024x768 framebuffer
[04:42] <fr33mind> ok...
[04:43] <fr33mind> how to get bootsplash working with a 1024x768 framebuffer ?  ;)
[04:43] <fr33mind> Lars_G: I take a look..
[04:43] <funkyHat> Ninjew, fr33mind, usplash is know not to work with framebuffer modes other than the default at the moment
[04:43] <fr33mind> ok.
[04:43] <Ninjew> funkyHat: Well in that case then
[04:43] <funkyHat> *known
[04:44] <Ninjew> funkyHat: What resolution does the default fb run at? 800x600?
[04:44] <funkyHat> looks like 600x400 to me
[04:44] <cafuego> ~hi
[04:44] <ubotu_> cafuego: I haven't a clue
[04:44] <cafuego> oh dear :-)
[04:44] <cafuego> !codecs
[04:44] <cafuego> ~codecs
[04:44] <ubotu_> [codecs]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:44] <cafuego> cool.
[04:45] <Remmelas> all, i have a question that i've seen discussed on the forums, but can find no answer to.  I can rip a cd at 19x+ with grip(paranoia disabled), but with sound juicer(paranoia disabled) i get at best 0.2x
[04:45] <funkyHat> eh
[04:45] <funkyHat> ~help
[04:45] <funkyHat> !help
[04:45] <funkyHat> ahahar
[04:48] <SirWraith> so i'm gonna put ubuntu on my powerbook
[04:48] <SirWraith> anyone have an idea how much space i would wanna allocate?
[04:49] <Remmelas> I've used 3 gigs so far
[04:49] <Lars_G> SirWraith: Enjoy it.
[04:49] <Remmelas> just installed this morning, so, allocate at least 3 gigs =)
[04:49] <Lars_G> SirWraith: I get mine in 20 days
[04:50] <funkyHat> SirWraith, 10GB will be plenty
[04:50] <whyameye> looking for help getting my modem to work...
[04:51] <Ninjew> this is so wierd: large file downloads just stall out, and I can't figure out why
[04:52] <Remmelas> nevermind all bout the cd ripping question, figured out that it's due to sound juicer, if i don't pipe to lame, it's fast too
[04:52] <procrastinationn> i need mp3 playback
[04:52] <procrastinationn> damage
[04:53] <SirWraith> alright, thanks guys
[04:53] <procrastinationn> hey how can i play xbox live on linux
[04:53] <funkyHat> procrastinationn,
[04:53] <funkyHat> !mp3
[04:53] <funkyHat> oops
[04:53] <funkyHat> ~mp3
[04:53] <ubotu_> it has been said that mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[04:54] <procrastinationn> im just a damn newbie
[04:54] <funkyHat> click on the link that ubotu_ just said
[04:54] <funkyHat> and follow the instructions on that page
[04:54] <procrastinationn> lol
[04:55] <procrastinationn> what about xbox and ftping and tunnelling
[04:55] <Toma-> anyone know of a way to speed up java?
[04:55] <Toma-> without getting new hardware
[04:56] <funkyHat> i'm not sure what you mean by your xbox question...
[04:56] <funkyHat> you own an xbox right?
[04:56] <funkyHat> and it's connected to the internet through your computer, which is running linux?
[04:56] <procrastinationn> yeah
[04:56] <funkyHat> how did you set that up? using firestarter?
[04:56] <procrastinationn> i know how to do it on windows
[04:57] <funkyHat> or haven't you set up any way of sharing your internet connection yet?
[04:57] <procrastinationn> i dont think so
[04:57] <funkyHat> ok
[04:57] <felix_> Bob2, cafeugo , first boot after my new REinstall now ... I still cant sudo ; felix is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[04:57] <funkyHat> install the program called 'firestarter' from synaptic
[04:57] <procrastinationn> xboxconnect  and ftp flash
[04:58] <funkyHat> felix_, your name should not be on the sudoers file
[04:58] <felix_> ??
[04:58] <procrastinationn> i dont know how to use synaptic
[04:58] <butcherbird> member of admin group?
[04:58] <funkyHat> the group 'admin' which you should be a member of, should be in the sudoers file
[04:58] <gefbals> hello..
[04:59] <funkyHat> procrastinationn, click system > administration > synaptic package manager
[04:59] <gefbals> mirramax backports are not available...and i cannot install j2re pagkage..where can i get one?
[04:59] <funkyHat> (enter your password)
[04:59] <procrastinationn> ok
[04:59] <felix_> i'm just telling here whats going wrong on my screen,  if you can help ; go for it, but i just reinstalled cause of this problem, i need something concrete please :, /
[04:59] <funkyHat> click in the right pane, and type firestarter
[05:00] <procrastinationn> hold on
[05:00] <procrastinationn> lol
[05:00] <Carpe_Libertatem> Is there anyway to make a bootable versionf of Ubuntu on a portable hard disk? I wasn to be able to boot from it on any computer that supports USB boots.
[05:00] <funkyHat> ok
[05:00] <Carpe_Libertatem> Want to be*
[05:00] <gefbals> mirramax backports are not available...and i cannot install j2re pagkage..where can i get one?
[05:01] <D1> whats been going on with backports lately?
[05:01] <D1> very little updates.
[05:01] <locomorto> gefbals: in breezy
[05:01] <locomorto> gefbals:  its very stable atm
[05:01] <funkyHat> Carpe_Libertatem, doing a 'server' install, and then doing 'apt-get install ubuntu-live' would probably be a good start
[05:01] <procrastinationn> dude im lost
[05:01] <funkyHat> it would need some fiddling though
[05:02] <procrastinationn> i opened the manager
[05:02] <gefbals> locomorto: im using hoary..is ok...to put breezy repo?
[05:02] <bob2> felix_: that sounds very much like a non-default install
[05:02] <funkyHat> procrastinationn, do you have the synaptic package manager window open now?
[05:02] <procrastinationn> yeah
[05:02] <bob2> felix_: either expert or server
[05:02] <felix_> bob2, i assure you, it is, default :|
[05:02] <Carpe_Libertatem> hmm
[05:02] <funkyHat> ok, have you found the pacakge called 'firestarter'?
[05:02] <locomorto> gefbals: just replace hoary with breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:02] <locomorto> gefbals: And remove backports/extras
[05:02] <felix_> bob2,  its the official install Cd from ubuntu.org , and the same cd installed on my pc whitout problem
[05:02] <locomorto> gefbals: There not needed in breezy
[05:03] <procrastinationn> dude ill brb gotta go to taco bell
[05:03] <Carpe_Libertatem> ..
[05:03] <locomorto> gefbals: Then do a apt-get update
[05:04] <locomorto> gefbals: apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:05] <gefbals> locomorto : deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted is this correct?
[05:05] <locomorto> gefbals: Dont have backports or extra
[05:05] <gefbals> locomorto: ic.. let me try..:)
[05:05] <locomorto> gefbals: If you have extra that is
[05:06] <funkyHat> bye guys
[05:06] <remyforbes777> fontconfig error: cannot load default config file
[05:06] <boxerboy29> i have a wuestion a lil kinda off topic but is ubuntu and libranet same command wise?
[05:06] <remyforbes777> anyone seen this
[05:07] <felix_> bob2, it keeps telling me that the group admin'  doesnt exist
[05:07] <Miks> how can i navigate in the console through folder that have names separated by spaces?
[05:07] <felix_> and there was no %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:08] <felix_> in etc/sudoers
[05:08] <felix_> WHAT IS THIS
[05:08] <cafuego_> that was interesting
[05:11] <butcherbird> Miks: * is your friend
[05:11] <felix_> cafeugo  ;)
[05:11] <tomas_> algum do RS Porto Alegre?
[05:11] <cafuego_> ~br
[05:11] <ubotu_> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[05:12] <remyforbes777> can not havign the correct fonts loaded cause you not tobe able to startx
[05:13] <ksmurf> bob2 nanolith seveas!!!!! all of those @ bugzilla and the developers YOU ARE GODS!!!!
[05:14] <togs> sndj
[05:14] <markinhos> Im looking for the repository for win32codecs...
[05:15] <felix_> bob2, btw, my problem is exactly the same as this guy http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24598.html
[05:15] <gefbals> locomorto:  finish... doing it ...but sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5.. pagkage not found..
[05:15] <gefbals> locomorto:  what shall i do?
[05:16] <whyameye> how do you use the filters in Synaptic? I'm trying to locate a broken package....
[05:16] <vitriol> i'm having a problem....don't know how to fix this one
[05:16] <vitriol> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 28 21:01:55 2005
[05:16] <esac> whenever i start firefox it asks me to choose a profile. i try to open the default one that is already there and it wont let me because it is already in use. any ideas?
[05:16] <locomorto> gefbals: you should have blackdown java now
[05:16] <vitriol> the root of the problem is my clock running too fast cause of the timer check bug :(
[05:16] <SirWraith> ok, got another question
[05:16] <markinhos> where can I find the win32codecs?
[05:16] <vitriol> but i guess i can't use any sudo commands for an half hour or so
[05:16] <gefbals> locomorto: what do you men..blackdown java?
[05:16] <bob2> felix_: if they had a real issue, they presumably would have filed a bug
[05:17] <bob2> ksmurf: fixed?
[05:17] <SirWraith> when i partition this disk, i'm gonna have to have everything be erased...
[05:17] <felix_> bob2, well i'm not the 1st one with this problem, and it does exist..
[05:17] <bob2> felix_: as above
[05:17] <SirWraith> how many partitions do i wanna create (/, boot, swap, etc) since i am doing it fresh
[05:17] <juliaintenn> hi, new ubuntu/linux user here -- can i change my desktop settings to icon text shows up on top of solid color even when I have a desktop image
[05:17] <gefbals> locomorto: i found it..:) ill will try..it..
[05:18] <butcherbird> esac: sounds like firefox is already running.
[05:18] <esac> butcherbird: ps aux doesn't show anything
[05:18] <vitriol> can anyone tell me how i can get sudo back?
[05:19] <felix_> bob2, so since they dont have filled a bug, my problem is not real.
[05:19] <vitriol> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 28 21:01:55 2005
[05:19] <dooglus> esac: if "ps aux" doesn't show anything, it means you don't have any processes running.  is your computer switched on?
[05:19] <vitriol> this is *really* not a good thing (TM)
[05:19] <alzabar> hi people
[05:19] <SirWraith> I've got a few install questions, and if someone could PM me for 2 minutes, that would be wonderful
[05:19] <esac> dooglus: obviously i meant ps aux isn't showing firefox listed as a running application
[05:19] <dooglus> esac: oh, i see.
[05:19] <bob2> felix_: why don't you file a bug then?
[05:20] <alzabar> I got ubuntu installed but I have  to change to my onboard graphics since X wont start with my PCI video card
[05:20] <alzabar> Im in X now but I have no sound
[05:20] <bob2> felix_: I'm very reluctant to believe random reports on the forums, since people there seem to have a habit of messing with things they don't understand
[05:20] <alzabar> keeps saying so such device
[05:20] <felix_> bob2, i will start by being able to sudo, if you please..
[05:20] <bob2> felix_: oh, stop being such a gimp
[05:20] <_Jes_> if I make a screenshot the Zapping program, I am using to watch Tv, and all OpenGL programs are just blck boxes.
[05:20] <bob2> idiot
[05:20] <alzabar> it sees all my hardware but nothing works
[05:20] <felix_> bob2, well, i really didnt change anything at the install...
[05:20] <_Jes_> s there a way to make a real screenshot?
[05:20] <maximaus> wireless noob question: I'm gonna grab a d-link-g520 card tomorrow, router brand shouldn't matter, right?
[05:21] <felix_> and it seems i'M not the only one with this prob
[05:21] <felix_> thats all
[05:21] <twizted> I need to see if someone can help me, I have ubuntu installed and Apache2 PHP5 and MySQL installed and working. but there is one thing that is bugging me. When using a link to a user directory i.e. http://www.link.com/~user it will only serve a index.html automatically... I need it to serve index.php but without the index.html file it just says page cannot be displayed
[05:21] <alzabar> maybe I can use my onboard sound also is there a way to configure alsa
[05:21] <butcherbird> esac: sorry all outa ideas :p
[05:21] <bob2> maximaus: what chipset does that card use?
[05:22] <maximaus> bob2, I forget, but it's 100% supported, I checked.
[05:22] <maximaus> $40 at Circuit City.
[05:23] <vitriol> vitriol@solstice:~$ sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:23] <vitriol> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 28 21:01:55 2005
[05:23] <vitriol> nobody knows how to fix this??
[05:23] <bob2> vitriol: one question mark is plenty
[05:23] <cafuego_> !test
[05:23] <ubotu> Crashed.
[05:23] <dooglus> if I plug an external monitor into my laptop before I boot, it works.  If I plug it in after I boot, it doesn't.  Is there some way I can get it working without rebooting if it wasn't plugged in when I booted?
[05:23] <vitriol> figured i'd ask one more time then give up for tonight
[05:24] <bob2> vitriol: what does "date" print?
[05:24] <vitriol> Wed Sep 28 20:24:06 PDT 2005
[05:24] <vitriol> bob2: it's the timer check bug
[05:24] <bob2> why is the timestamp in the future?
[05:24] <vitriol> rebooted, then ntp fixed the tdate
[05:24] <dooglus> did you notice that the ubuntu bugzilla is an hour fast?
[05:25] <vitriol> is there an option i can pass to the kernel at boot?
[05:25] <vitriol> like no_timer_check
[05:25] <vitriol> (that didn't work)
[05:25] <alzabar> can anybody help me with my sound
[05:25] <_Jes_> any hints on how to make a screenshot of opengl games?
[05:26] <vitriol> [  110.285064]  Losing some ticks... checking if CPU frequency changed.
[05:26] <twizted> I need to see if someone can help me, I have ubuntu installed and Apache2 PHP5 and MySQL installed and working. but there is one thing that is bugging me. When using a link to a user directory i.e. http://www.link.com/~user it will only serve a index.html automatically... I need it to serve index.php but without the index.html file it just says page cannot be displayed
[05:27] <dooglus> vitriol: is this it? https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16304
[05:27] <bob2> vitriol: perhaps hpt or something is broken
[05:27] <Sin> i have a problem setting up my dsl to get on the net. not much help on the boards so i came here. im using ubuntu 5.04
[05:27] <Hikaru79> Does anyone know what package wnck-applet is part of? libwnck18?
[05:27] <bob2> Sin: you need to provide a lot more detail
[05:27] <Sin> ok
[05:27] <bob2> Hikaru79: "dpkg -S wnck-app" will tell you
[05:27] <Sin> neither root terminal nor networking will come up. they seem to crash
[05:28] <Hikaru79> Ah, thank you! :)
[05:28] <bob2> Sin: ignore that
[05:28] <Sin> on the live cd i was able to get into networking and root
[05:28] <cafuego_> bye ubotu_
[05:29] <Sin> im on dsl, connected to my ethernet port. im pretty sure they use the ppp0, i try to srt the autofind the modem and it says its not connected or busy
[05:29] <bob2> so, you want to use pppoe?
[05:29] <bob2> or is it a router?
[05:29] <Sin> it worked for me whan i was on xandros
[05:29] <Sin> just a modem
[05:30] <bob2> then run 'sudo ppoeconf' in a terminal
[05:30] <jrattner1> How can i use the info from xev, to link a button to a feature.  For example, my volume down button on my keyboard actually turning my volume down?..
[05:30] <Sin> ok im on windows, so ill have to boot over there. is there anything else other than that i should do while im over there
[05:30] <bob2> system -> preferences -> keybindings, if it works
[05:30] <Varanger> when will Breezy be out?
[05:31] <jrattner1> bob2, keybindings
[05:31] <remyforbes777> how do you convert to using Xfree86 instead of xorg
[05:31] <remyforbes777> or is there a difference
[05:32] <bob2> remyforbes777: why would you want that?
[05:32] <bob2> xfree86 is the old unmaintained X server
[05:32] <remyforbes777> want Xfree86
[05:32] <remyforbes777> ?
[05:32] <Sin> so i take that as a no?
[05:32] <remyforbes777> because i see that is what knoppix is using , X wont work with my ubuntu 64 install
[05:32] <remyforbes777> but it will with knoppix
[05:33] <butcherbird> any of you guys use pure-ftpd on a nonstandard port? i got a question.
[05:33] <bob2> butcherbird: that's unlikely to work
[05:33] <bob2> Sin: yes
[05:33] <remyforbes777> and during knoppix initialization it said it was using xfree86
[05:33] <butcherbird> bob2: so far your right ;)
[05:33] <alzabar> how do I config alsa
[05:33] <bob2> butcherbird: why would you do that?
[05:33] <bob2> alzabar: there's nothing to configure
[05:33] <alzabar> well
[05:33] <alzabar> my sound is not working
[05:33] <cafuego_> butcherbird: It will be OK provided you tell ip_contrack_ftp that the nonstandard port needs to be allowed via RELATED traffic (passive ftp)
[05:34] <cafuego_> Google for how to do that, I forget...
[05:34] <butcherbird> bob2: thought i might avoid anyone trying to brute force stuff like that
[05:34] <cafuego_> butcherbird: use 'sftp' or s'cp' for that.
[05:34] <alzabar> I got a sound blaster and a onboard sound
[05:34] <alzabar> I want at least one of them to work
[05:35] <_Jes_> is it possible to make screenshots of opengl games?
[05:35] <butcherbird> bob2, cafuego_, back to the drawingboard thx guys..
[05:35] <alzabar> I got no alsamixer nothing I want to know whats going on
[05:35] <felix> bob2, just for info :  I did it... :)      ; i had to edit the sudoers file to add Myusername ALL=(ALL) ALL   , so i could open Users and groups , i Created an Admin group (since it really didnt exist)       and added my username to it, then i will have to remove my username from the sudoers in a few minutes.. twas that 'simple'
[05:37] <bob2> butcherbird: ftp is inherently insecure
[05:37] <bob2> felix: please file a bug
[05:37] <alzabar> can someone help me
[05:37] <bob2> alzabar: disable the onboard one in the bios
[05:37] <alzabar> I cant
[05:38] <alzabar> there is no option
[05:38] <felix> bob2, its hard to do file a bug a bit.... what will i say  ? i mean, i didnt use any special commands or software, it was a basic install using an official cd .. its a bug allright, but i think bugzilla needs to be more..'specific' no ?
[05:39] <juliaintenn> any way to change desktop icons to text below them shows up on solid color background?
[05:39] <alzabar> ok back to windows
[05:39] <bob2> felix: someone needs to report it
[05:40] <DonL> bob2, are you running Breezy?
[05:40] <bob2> alzabar: shame you give up so easy, but googd luck
[05:40] <alzabar> well its been a month
[05:40] <bob2> DonL: yes
[05:40] <felix> i will go, but i dont have much to say.
[05:40] <alzabar> no one can give me a straight answer always pointing me somewhere else
[05:40] <felix> opensource needs everyone to participate, im aware of this..
[05:40] <bob2> alzabar: great attitude, too
[05:40] <DonL> bob2, did you upgrade, and did you have any problems?
[05:40] <_Jes_> alzabar: if you can't disable the onboard chip - why not remove the soundcard?
[05:41] <bob2> DonL: yes, only that X didn't start, which was trivial to fix
[05:41] <davebgimp1> Hi I have a HP Pavilion ze2315us laptop and can't for the life of me get Ubuntu to boot. It seems to complete the install, but freezes at times when loading and if it gets to the login, once I sign in, it freezes at the loading screen. Am I out of luck? Or is there something I can do?
[05:41] <Varanger> how can I uninstall grub?
[05:41] <bob2> alzabar: just blacklist the module for it, then
[05:41] <bob2> Varanger: why?
[05:41] <alzabar> I can remove it its a onboard
[05:41] <DonL> bob2, help! That's my problem. I don't know how to fix it
[05:41] <Varanger> bob2: actually, I'd like to install grub on sdaX and leave the boot sector with NT loader
[05:41] <libervisco> Hello..
[05:42] <remyforbes777> hey dave I am having the same issue
[05:42] <bob2> DonL: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:42] <remyforbes777> i have a compaq V2300
[05:42] <bob2> Varanger: then use windows to reinstall the bootloader in the mbr
[05:42] <remyforbes777> is your an amd 64 turion
[05:42] <libervisco> I'm currently on Debian, trying it out after Ubuntu.. but it's too outdated and I'm on modem so dist-upgrading to testing isn't really the best way to go...
[05:43] <_Jes_> alzabar: i meant the sound blaster and not the onboard sound
[05:43] <davebgimp1> amd sempron 3000
[05:43] <remyforbes777> ok
[05:43] <remyforbes777> well i am having the same issue
[05:43] <Varanger> bob2: then I used a rescue cd on Linux to install grub on sdaX ?
[05:43] <remyforbes777> i jsut reinstalled ubuntu 64 and at login it freezes
[05:44] <remyforbes777> sometime it wouldnt even get through the full install
[05:44] <DonL> Thanks, bob2. I'll try that right now.
[05:44] <davebgimp1> same problem although I don't think my processor is a 64
[05:44] <libervisco> I think I'll better stick to Ubuntu.. but I wanted to ask something, can I install packages from breezy into hoary and then later from dapner to breezy?
[05:44] <DonL> ...off I go to try...
[05:44] <remyforbes777> ok
[05:44] <remyforbes777> i dont know what to do
[05:44] <bob2> Varanger: yes
[05:44] <crimsun> libervisco, in that case you'd be better off just running breezy and dapper, respectively
[05:45] <davebgimp1> it stalls while loading sometimes and when it does get to the login screen it freezes at the gnome splash
[05:45] <davebgimp1> tried the Breezy preview and Hoary
[05:45] <remyforbes777> yep
[05:45] <remyforbes777> yep
[05:45] <libervisco> crimsun, yeah.. I meant before the actual release
[05:45] <remyforbes777> me also
[05:45] <GTswagger> Anybody around that is good with keychain?
[05:45] <remyforbes777> i can even put in my username and password
[05:46] <crimsun> libervisco, there's no reason you can't run the devel branch.
[05:46] <remyforbes777> then when the splash screen comes on the sound seems like its sticking and it freezes
[05:46] <crimsun> GTswagger, what's the issue?
[05:46] <GTswagger> I'm having a problem getting it to work;  namely ssh-agent not adding ~/.ssh/id_dsa  ("could not open a connection to your authentication agent"
[05:46] <libervisco> crimsun, right.. so I just dist-upgrade to it
[05:46] <davebgimp1> exactly the same thing
[05:46] <remyforbes777> dang
[05:46] <libervisco> modify sources.list, set breezy as default in apt.conf and off I go :)
[05:46] <libervisco> right?
[05:47] <crimsun> GTswagger, are you sourcing the correct keychain script from ~/.bashrc?
[05:47] <davebgimp1> Can anyone give me any ideas on something I can try to fix this?
[05:47] <Sin> ok
[05:47] <GTswagger> crimsun -- not sure what you mean by that;  I am able to go:  ssh user@host  ... and only validate the pass on my key to login....
[05:48] <Sin> i did the ppoeconf and got nothing
[05:48] <GTswagger> crimsun -- I have also added the following to .bash_profile:   keychain ~/.ssh/id_da    (newline)  . ~/.keychain/$HOSTNAME-sh
[05:48] <Sin> the sudo ppoeconf bob2 suggested about 10 mins ago that is
[05:48] <ramblingturtle23> hello, I am having a problem with X after trying to upgrade to breezy now all i get is the command line anybody willing to help out
[05:48] <bob2> Sin: "got nothing" is not a description of the problem
[05:48] <GTswagger> crimsun -- haven't logged out or anything since changing the .bash_profile file, if that matters
[05:48] <crimsun> GTswagger, typo?
[05:49] <bob2> Sin: no one else can see your computer, you need to be very specific about what happens, and what is displayed
[05:49] <GTswagger> crimsun -- no, what I typed is exactly what's on my system
[05:49] <Sin> i did it, it said it couldnt be found
[05:49] <whyameye> am I right that a modem with an ESS chipset simply will not work in Hoary?
[05:49] <bob2> Sin: install the pppoeconf package
[05:49] <crimsun> GTswagger, since when did you start creating id_da and id_da.pub (vs. id_dsa and id_dsa.pub, respectively)?
[05:50] <GTswagger> crimsun -- I'm trying to have password-less scp via cron... and this is the only way to do that, I've been told
[05:50] <GTswagger> oh - sorry -- yes, that is a typo... id_dsa
[05:50] <Sin> can i do that offline? because i have yet to be able to get online with ubuntu
[05:50] <GTswagger> I always typo that to... like 80%+ ... dunno why
[05:50] <GTswagger> UGH
[05:50] <GTswagger> *too
[05:50] <bob2> Sin: if you have a cd
[05:50] <GTswagger> <--- needs some coffee
[05:50] <crimsun> GTswagger, and after logging out and back in?
[05:50] <GTswagger> crimsun -- haven't... should I do that now
[05:50] <Sin> the install cd?
[05:51] <crimsun> GTswagger, yes
[05:52] <GTswagger> crimsun -- merge?  You on Gentoo?
[05:52] <Sin> the install cd?
[05:52] <davebgimp1> Can someone please give me a hand with my Ubuntu install? The load at times hangs and when logging in, the system freezes ad the sound seems to skip every time.
[05:52] <crimsun> GTswagger, no, I have to merge Debian changes to the keychain package into the Ubuntu ones and upload
[05:52] <_Jes_> Sin: yes, the install cd
[05:52] <davebgimp1> I can't seem to get Ubuntu to work at all
[05:53] <GTswagger> crimsun -- woohoo... when I did ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_dsa it asked for the pass and added it
[05:53] <GTswagger> crimsun++
[05:53] <Sin> so i click on the cd icon on the desktop and just root around till i find it?
[05:54] <abarbaccia> hey - how come when i go to play an mpg from firefox, totem gives me an error like this: Totem could not play 'fd://0'.
[05:54] <abarbaccia> install the appropriate plugin
[05:54] <vladuz976> anybody know how i can extract email addresses out of a text file with vim?
[05:54] <abarbaccia> no decoders found to handle the stream
[05:55] <ksmurf> what to hear the meaning of ironic.... I jumped in to compliment everyone for getting battery indicators working in breezy and I crashed..... and lost my internal wifi card yet again.... and screen dim dumps me to a hibranate that doesn't work ....rofl...
[05:55] <jrattner1> How can i use the info from xev, to link a button to a feature.  For example, my volume down button on my keyboard actually turning my volume down?
[05:55] <wrabbit01> Hey everybody, I installed a bunch of audio drivers and codecs today just to get mp3 and other files working.  Now that it's all done and fine, I can't get any sound in games like Solarwolf etc.
[05:55] <wrabbit01> Any easy way to fix this?
[05:55] <ksmurf> But hey my battery indicator works............
[05:55] <bob2> jrattner1: read what I said earlier
[05:56] <_Jes_> Sin: use: sudo apt-get install pppoeconf - the cd should be used automaticaly
[05:56] <ksmurf> bob2 pm me if you have time pls....
[05:56] <jrattner1> bob2, the keybindings thing?
[05:56] <DonL> bob2, it appears I don
[05:57] <DonL> don't have  xserver-org
[05:57] <ksmurf> xorg
[05:57] <bob2> ksmurf: I don't do that, sorry
[05:57] <bob2> jrattner1: yes; or doesn't it produce a keysym?
[05:57] <crimsun> wrabbit01, are you using default Ubuntu audio settings?
[05:58] <wrabbit01> As far as I know crimson.
[05:58] <wrabbit01> Unless the audio drivers and codecs messed around with em
[05:58] <crimsun> wrabbit01, then you'll want to stop esd before you start a game
[05:58] <ksmurf> no problem..... I just wanted you to take a look at my dmesg now that my card is down again.... last night it was up
[05:58] <wrabbit01> How do I start it again crimsun?
[05:58] <jrattner1> bob2, i believe it does, I have it report two seperate events a keypress and keyrelease
[05:58] <crimsun> wrabbit01, System> Preferences> Sound> uncheck Enable sound server startup
[05:58] <dooglus> I asked "if I plug an external monitor into my laptop before I boot, it works.  If I plug it in after I boot, it doesn't.  Is there some way I can get it working without rebooting if it wasn't plugged in when I booted?"
[05:59] <crimsun> wrabbit01, then start your game. After you exit your game, recheck that box that you unchecked.
[05:59] <dooglus> I discovered the answer: on my laptop I press "Fn" and hit F5, then restart X.
[05:59] <abarbaccia> whats the name of the w32codecs in breezy?
[05:59] <DonL> bob2, can I ask what you did again? Maybe I wrote it down wrong.   It works. :)
[05:59] <dooglus> I'd prefer not to have to restart X, but it's better than rebooting
[05:59] <wrabbit01> crimsun: Thanks alot
[05:59] <FR500> hello
[05:59] <crimsun> wrabbit01, np
[06:00] <_Jes_> dooglus: does a restart of X work? (ctrl-alt-backspace)
[06:00] <all> hi
[06:00] <_Jes_> oh, you where faster ...
[06:00] <jrattner1> bob2, ?
[06:00] <all> did u have cam,
[06:01] <robert1123> hello all. Can any one tell me how to uninstall a program that u get through the apt-get command
[06:01] <dooglus> _Jes_: only if I do the Fn+F5 trick first
[06:01] <abarbaccia> apt-get remove <program name> robert1123
[06:01] <jrattner1> apt-get remove
[06:01] <jrattner1> yeh
[06:01] <robert1123> thank you
[06:01] <FR500> how can i identify which app has a port open? I have something on port 6667 and i dunno what it is
[06:01] <FR500> listening on port 6667 i mean
[06:01] <dooglus> _Jes_: otherwise, it doesn't notice that I added or removed the monitor
[06:01] <dooglus> (I have it set up to go dual-head if there is an external monitor)
[06:03] <_Jes_> so it works: Yeehaa! :-)
[06:03] <DonL> bob2, seems like you're needed tonight. I'll try a few other things and let you know. Thanks for your help. Night
[06:03] <ColonelKernel> well, I was gonna try out gentoo on the spare box - but the minimal install cd for it is borked
[06:03] <robert1123> how do you upgrade a program that u get with the apt-get command?
[06:03] <dooglus> _Jes_: I was posting the answer here so it's next to the question.  useful for future reference.
[06:04] <_Jes_> robert1123: try this -> man apt-get
[06:04] <robert1123> thanks
[06:06] <remyforbes777> can someone tell me what the command is to reconfigure X
[06:06] <hondje> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:07] <remyforbes777> hondje: excellent , thanks
[06:07] <hondje> No problem
[06:07] <FR500> how can i identify which app has a port open? I have something listening on port 6667 and i dunno what it is
[06:08] <dooglus> FR500: "netstat -ap"
[06:08] <nickrud> FR500, sudo netstat -tlp
[06:08] <_Jes_> 6667 is used by edonkey/xmule
[06:08] <nicholaspaul> hey gurus
[06:09] <nicholaspaul> does anyone know how to format a newly -installed hard drive?
[06:09] <grndslm> who should I talk to about asking for a feature in Gnome??  specifically, I want an option in Gnome so that all windows stay maximized, whether it's firefox or the software updates screen, or even IM windows...
[06:09] <dooglus> nickrud: the netstat man page doesn't say what -t does.  do you know?
[06:09] <hondje> nicholaspaul:  mkfs
[06:09] <crimsun> dooglus, tcp
[06:10] <hondje> gparted can do it if you want a gui
[06:10] <nicholaspaul> hondje: thanks!
[06:10] <nickrud> listening on tlp, if i remembe correctly
[06:10] <hondje> :)
[06:10] <dooglus> crimsun: huh?
[06:10] <nickrud> heh
[06:10] <bob832> hi, has anyone gotten the dell 720 printer to work in ubuntu?
[06:10] <crimsun> dooglus, [--tcp|-t]
[06:10] <nickrud> tcp :)
[06:10] <dooglus> crimsun: it doesn't say what --tcp does, either
[06:10] <FR500> nickrud: it doesnt show, but if i do an nmap localhost it says 6667 open
[06:11] <crimsun> dooglus, should it? (It means show TCP connections)
[06:11] <hondje> FR500: lsof | grep 6667 maybe
[06:11] <dooglus> crimsun: man pages should document all the flags a program accepts, yes
[06:11] <crimsun> dooglus, it's fairly self-explanatory from the usage section of the man page
[06:11] <crimsun> dooglus, it's definitely documented in the man page
[06:11] <nicholaspaul> hondje: do i have to make a file system too?
[06:11] <nickrud> FR500, then, I'd look a bit deeper, if it was my machine
[06:11] <dooglus> crimsun: is it?  I didn't see it mentioned anywhere other than in the USAGE section
[06:11] <hondje> nicholaspaul: mkfs is make filesystem
[06:11] <dooglus> sorry - the SYNOPSIS section
[06:12] <nicholaspaul> hondje: oh...duh.. thanks :)
[06:12] <crimsun> dooglus, submit a bug with a patch against the man page
[06:12] <hondje> :) mkfs.ext3 makes ext3, etc, lots of short cuts to save on the switches
[06:12] <FR500> dooglus: nothing
[06:12] <dooglus> crimsun: what does it do?
[06:12] <FR500> well, anyway i'm wiping this disc clean for breezy
[06:12] <FR500> thanks ppl
[06:12] <crimsun> dooglus, I explained above
[06:13] <nicholaspaul> hondje: yea i was a little scared that there was no yes/no option - all of a sudden its formatted! LOL
[06:13] <dooglus> crimsun: I didn't see it.  I saw you tell me it was self explanitory, but I didn't see the explanation
[06:13] <alzabar> ok
[06:13] <alzabar> I took all my cards out
[06:13] <alzabar> now everything is working
[06:13] <hondje> nicholaspaul: hehe, it's quite efficient :)
[06:14] <hondje> nicholaspaul: make sure to use fdisk to make your partitions before you mount it, even if it's just one partition :)
[06:14] <dooglus> ooh - i see.  "it means show TCP connections".  sorry - I missed that.
[06:14] <nicholaspaul> hondje: so how about makgin a partition table? fdisk says my new drive doesnt have one.
[06:14] <alzabar> grr stupid pc
[06:14] <_Jes_> alzabar: congratulations. have fun and listen to good music. ;-)
[06:15] <nicholaspaul> hondje: you read my mind!
[06:15] <grndslm> who should I talk to about asking for a feature in Gnome?
[06:15] <alzabar> yeah nothing works unless its just onboard
[06:15] <spindley> you should fdisk, then mkfs, then mount
[06:15] <grndslm> more specifically...how do you search for a certain room in IRC??
[06:15] <B_166-ER-X> what is the command to open a .rar by terminal ?   even if i have unrar nonfree install, file roller dont want to open an archive
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> unrar e (or x)
[06:16] <spindley> B_166-ER-X, unrar x
[06:16] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[06:16] <B_166-ER-X> it says 'cannot create' 'every file name in the .rar'
[06:16] <_Jes_> B_166-ER-X: man unrar
[06:17] <esac> how do i copy from vim/gvim into another program
[06:17] <_Jes_> B_166-ER-X: unrar e <file> , if I recall right
[06:17] <nicholaspaul> spindley: i mkfs then fdisk then mount.. does that matter?
[06:17] <irg> grndslm: you could try in the #ubuntu-love or #ubuntu-desktop channels
[06:18] <spindley> nicholaspaul, i would fdisk the drive, create my partitions, then mkfs.ext3 (or whatever) /dev/hdX1, etc
[06:18] <spindley> you can't mkfs if there's no partition to make a filesystem on..
[06:18] <nicholaspaul> oh i shee...
[06:18] <nicholaspaul> i have no idea!! :) thanks mate
[06:18] <spindley> np
[06:19] <grndslm> irg: gracias
[06:19] <nicholaspaul> crap... mkfs is fast, spindley
[06:19] <spindley> ext2/3 yeah it's fairly quick
[06:20] <spindley> reiserfs is even faster, but reiser is crap (imo)
[06:20] <fjs> What file do I edit to enable KDE to offer shutdown/reboot on the logoff menu?
[06:21] <j-linux> Is there a program that comes with Ubuntu that you can use to make icons (e.g., favicon.ico for web site)?
[06:21] <B_166-ER-X> what the equivalent of fileroller for KDE ??
[06:22] <remyforb1s777> what is 128MB in kb
[06:22] <nicholaspaul> 128 x 1024
[06:22] <crimsun> 128 1024 *n
[06:23] <nicholaspaul> 131072
[06:23] <AngryParsley> 131072kb
[06:23] <nicholaspaul> :)
[06:23] <AngryParsley> damn, beaten
[06:23] <nicholaspaul> hehe only just...
[06:23] <remyforb1s777> got it
[06:23] <remyforb1s777> thanks
[06:23] <AngryParsley> if only I hadn't typed KB
[06:23] <nicholaspaul> LOL
[06:23] <hondje> j-linux: gimp
[06:23] <sergio> hola
[06:24] <sergio> hi
[06:24] <hondje> buenas noches
[06:24] <j-linux> hondje:  how do I do it with GIMP?  Just a 32x32 image saved with an .ico extension?
[06:24] <FroG] french[> hi guys
[06:24] <FroG] french[> i need a hand ...
[06:24] <hondje> j-linux: I'd save it as a gif, since IE cries a lot, and rename it .ico
[06:24] <FroG] french[> anybody is connected ?
[06:24] <sergio> by
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> hmm?
[06:24] <FroG] french[> oki ...
[06:25] <FroG] french[> u know adobe acrobat under windows ????
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> there 454 people connected here. :P more or less.
[06:25] <FroG] french[> is anything like this on gnome ?
[06:25] <j-linux> hondje: ok, thanks... actually, I think it's supposed to be 16x16, no?
[06:25] <sportman> hey
[06:25] <sportman> im trying to back up my files
[06:25] <sportman> um i have a crossover cable
[06:25] <hondje> j-linux: I don't remember :)
[06:26] <sportman> that is 100mb/s connection and 1 nic card on each computer that is 100mb/s
[06:26] <sportman> shouldnt i get like 4 mbs
[06:26] <remyforb1s777> will having incorrect fonts loaded mess up starting x
[06:26] <sportman> 4 each second
[06:26] <sportman> im getting 100kb/s
[06:26] <sportman> :(
[06:26] <procrastinationn> taco bell was good
[06:26] <j-linux> hondje: I just found a tutorial -- says 16x16, and also a 32x32 for the favorites...
[06:27] <calc> procrastinationn: 50 years ago? :)
[06:27] <j-linux> hondje: thanks.
[06:27] <spindley> FroG] french[, 'sudo apt-get install acroread'
[06:27] <procrastinationn> who was helpin me install codecs
[06:27] <remyforb1s777> im going to copy my xorg config file from knoppix to ubuntu 64 tomorrow
[06:27] <calc> taco bell's hottest hot sauce is barely warm :\
[06:27] <FroG] french[> spindley, it's juste a pdf reader acroread no ???
[06:27] <remyforb1s777> see if that fixes th e dang problem
[06:27] <spindley> well, it's acrobat for linux yeah
[06:27] <FroG] french[> sportman, 100mbits/s ... it's not 100 mo /s !!!!!
[06:27] <spindley> you want distiller or something?
[06:27] <sportman> yea
[06:27] <sportman> i know
[06:28] <FroG] french[> you have to divide 100 mb by 8 !!!
[06:28] <sportman> yea
[06:28] <_Jes_> FroG] french[: use "Add Aplications" and look for "Acrobat Reader"
[06:28] <sportman> but it still should be like 8-1/2mbs
[06:28] <sportman> i get like 150kb/s
[06:28] <FroG] french[> i don't want the reader one !!
[06:28] <FroG] french[> arf
[06:28] <FroG] french[> sportman,
[06:28] <sportman> i know its not going to go 100 megabites everysecond, id be happy with just one
[06:28] <sportman> lol
[06:29] <FroG] french[> lol
[06:29] <sportman> n e ideas
[06:29] <sportman> its just a simple crossover either net cable
[06:29] <_Jes_> FroG] french[: my pdf-files are opened with "Evince 0.4.0"
[06:29] <sportman> two computers using static ip addresses
[06:29] <FroG] french[> i don't want just to open pdf file
[06:29] <FroG] french[> i've xpdf to do it !
[06:29] <sportman> 2 feet away from each other
[06:29] <sportman> lol
[06:29] <sportman> but no it has to be stupid on me
[06:29] <FroG] french[> i want to be able to add page to the pdf file
[06:29] <FroG] french[> etC/
[06:30] <FroG] french[> remove pages
[06:30] <FroG] french[> changes comment
[06:30] <FroG] french[> etc.
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> you mean EDIT pdf files
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:30] <FroG] french[> like in adobe acrobat (not adobe acrobat READER)
[06:30] <_Jes_> FroG] french[: Evince is just a reader
[06:30] <FroG] french[> how silly i am ... I know it's just a reader !!
[06:31] <FroG] french[> that's why i tell you it doesn't match my need
[06:32] <_Jes_> FroG] french[: I think you need ghostscipt, but I'm really not into that stuff... anybody else?
[06:32] <sportman> lol
[06:33] <FroG] french[> sportman, for you're speed problem, it may be caused by a firewall, if you have one !
[06:38] <nickrud> soliste, Dr_Willis you have some advice for editing pdf
[06:38] <nickrud> 's
[06:38] <fr33mind> Question: where evolution put mail account list ??  I try to restore my evolution parameter from my user account backup.  I look in .evolution, .gnome2_private and .gconf/apps
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> nope.. i can honestly say ive never edited one.
[06:39] <nickrud> :)
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> Not sure if Openoffice can do it.
[06:39] <alexcamilo> hello. Where is GCC in ubuntu?
[06:39] <fr33mind> ( I mean the config file of the mail account list)
[06:39] <_Jes_> alexcamilo: try -> which gcc
[06:40] <nickrud> alexandros, in sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:40] <Varanger> when is Breezy going out ?
[06:40] <alexcamilo> trying
[06:40] <crimsun> Varanger, has your sound been fixed yet?
[06:40] <HermanDE> Ok...Slightly OT:  Anybody know of a good replacement for squrrelmail?
[06:40] <Varanger> crimsun: I don't know :(
[06:41] <j-linux> when I first installed Ubuntu, the bootup was fast.  I added two more network devices in my settings (task bar) and now it takes a very long time to boot.  It hangs a while on "configureing network settings" or "network devices" or something similar.
[06:41] <protok0l> HermanDE, ssh and mutt
[06:41] <Varanger> crimsun: I sent a post to bugtrack and tiwai answered me
[06:41] <alexcamilo> thankyou!
[06:41] <j-linux> Everything works, but it's a slow boot.
[06:41] <alexcamilo> now i can learn c!
[06:41] <Varanger> I installed a brand new Debian ... and sound was working wonderfully
[06:41] <HermanDE> protok0l: I like that too...    I try to restore my evolution parameter from my user account backup.  I look in .evolution, .gnome2_private and .gconf/apps
[06:45] <flankk> Tried convincing this person that they can have alternatives for all the applications they used in XP, 'no i just dont like the whole set up with the way it is now'
[06:45] <flankk> Ugh.. what can you do.
[06:45] <Varanger> crimsun: bye
[06:45] <Sonny_Wertzik> does anyone know where to get GTK themes besides gnome look?
[06:45] <nickrud> !themes
[06:46] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[06:46] <Erron> Hi I installed ubuntu , and it asked to specify a user so I made one, but what is the default root pass because I dont remember setting any
[06:46] <Sonny_Wertzik> hehehehe
[06:46] <dooglus> !root
[06:46] <ubotu> it has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:46] <breakthestate> just use sudo
[06:46] <HermanDE> flankk: People forget the learning process..  And usually forget that once you learn how to drive a VW, everything else becomes easy...
[06:46] <nickrud> ah, ubotu is till there
[06:46] <breakthestate> and sudo -s for a sudo shell
[06:46] <Sonny_Wertzik> thx
[06:47] <flankk> HermanDE, I don't get it.. they are not a 'power-user', and only use a couple applications, like IM and a soudn player.. I told them the interface can be changed to however they like..
[06:48] <Amaranth> anyone using firefox 1.5 beta 1 should check out http://developer.mozilla.org/samples/raycaster/RayCaster.html
[06:48] <Amaranth> it's awesome
[06:49] <nickrud> I'll byte, what
[06:49] <nickrud> is the canvas tag?
[06:50] <weiorhwe> i give up
[06:50] <Amaranth> it's a 2D drawing API that apple made for safari and is apart of the WHATWG spec
[06:51] <oxez> hm, it seems I have to reboot my machine to make Xorg recognize my changes in xorg.conf file. I tried /etc/init.d/gdm stop (and xorg-common), but changes don't apply until I reboot.. ideas?
[06:51] <caustictwin> thanks guys for making a linux distro that is so easy to use
[06:51] <caustictwin> (that goes to all involved)
[06:52] <GTswagger> crimsun -- you still around?
[06:52] <weiorhwe> thank debian
[06:52] <weiorhwe> #debian
[06:52] <caustictwin> ok
[06:52] <caustictwin> they're next
[06:52] <weiorhwe> :)
[06:53] <flankk> weiorhwe, you can thank by donation, or by developing, if you're poor :D
[06:53] <caustictwin> in breezy badger, where do you have to go to get w32codecs?
[06:53] <duken> ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net is down?
[06:53] <moj0rising> Does anyone know where I can find a list of organizations that have implemented samba?
[06:53] <weiorhwe> caustictwin, you need multiverse in your sources.list
[06:53] <moj0rising> Sorry for being a little ff topic.
[06:53] <bob2> moj0rising: try #samba
[06:54] <moj0rising> I am trying to get my organization to switch to it..
[06:54] <moj0rising> they did not have one.
[06:54] <moj0rising> tried.
[06:54] <duken> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/
[06:54] <nnonix> anyone here have amarok running correctly under gnome in breezy?
[06:54] <Ninjew> moj0rising: Switch to samba for Windows Domain Control, or just for file serving?
[06:54] <duken> http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net is down?
[06:54] <moj0rising> file serving.
[06:54] <Erron> any ubuntu devs here?
[06:54] <moj0rising> don't think it can be a PDC yet, right??
[06:55] <Ninjew> moj0rising: It can, but not for Active Directory
[06:55] <caustictwin> moj0rising: to which repository do I add multiverse?
[06:55] <bob2> duken: so don't use it
[06:55] <bob2> Erron: best to just ask your question
[06:55] <moj0rising> ah. They are actually doing an AD install now :(
[06:55] <nickrud> caustictwin, http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, look at the codec part, and get what you need.
[06:55] <weiorhwe>  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[06:55] <bob2> moj0rising: www.samba.org, yes it can
[06:55] <weiorhwe> is the line you need
[06:55] <Amaranth> caustictwin: the package is no longer available due to legal reasons
[06:55] <caustictwin> ?
[06:55] <moj0rising> Actually, I think I remember reading that now, that you mention it.
[06:55] <caustictwin> lame...
[06:55] <Erron> just wanted to say I recieved ubuntu today a whole pack of it and gave it out at school to everyone loved it.
[06:55] <Ninjew> moj0rising: Samba can be an AD client
[06:56] <Amaranth> caustictwin: copyright is lame?
[06:56] <caustictwin> yes
[06:56] <Amaranth> without copyright even the GPL is worthless
[06:56] <caustictwin> not what the framers of the constitution had in mind
[06:56] <nickrud> caustictwin, look for
[06:56] <bob2> caustictwin: yes it is
[06:56] <weiorhwe> patents are lame at least
[06:56] <moj0rising> yeah. That's what I woul like to propose -- file servers in AD, Ninjew.
[06:56] <Amaranth> the framers of the constitution supported you ripping off windows DLLs without permission?
[06:56] <nickrud> 'patent
[06:56] <nickrud> damn
[06:56] <bob2> caustictwin: w32codecs is random dlls from various companies
[06:57] <weiorhwe> yes they did
[06:57] <nickrud> patents in the constitution, it's there
[06:57] <Ninjew> moj0rising: My College does that
[06:57] <caustictwin> bob2: i am aware
[06:57] <moj0rising> what college?
[06:57] <moj0rising> I can mention them.
[06:57] <nickrud> I'm not particulary partial to the current interpretation, but the concept is sound.
[06:57] <Ninjew> moj0rising: Kenyon college, but any company that has linux fileserving will use samba if they have win32 clients, its practially a given
[06:58] <weiorhwe> the patent system is worthless
[06:58] <deepwoodz> hey guys im having trouble installing programs cuz i dont have a gcc compiler and im runnin this distro
[06:58] <moj0rising> yeah, but I'm looking for a mass installation..
[06:58] <dooglus> I think I just found a bug in sudo
[06:58] <weiorhwe> unless you are a corporation
[06:58] <Amaranth> dooglus: oh?
[06:58] <weiorhwe> and your not
[06:58] <moj0rising> where samba serves 1000+ clients
[06:58] <dooglus> is there some way of reporting 'sensitive' bugs so that they end up in the 'right hands'?
[06:58] <Quequeg> nickrud, where is patent in the constitution?
[06:58] <bob2> deepwoodz: what are you trying to compile?
[06:58] <moj0rising> windows clients, that is.
[06:58] <Amaranth> weiorhwe: the patent system isn't broken, it just has problems
[06:58] <bob2> dooglus: where sensitive = security?
[06:59] <dooglus> bob2: yes
[06:59] <weiorhwe> it's broken
[06:59] <bob2> dooglus: you can mark the bug as visible to only canonical staff, which is fairly private
 I think I just found a bug in sudo <-- yes for me, sudo gives me root privileges!!!! ;)
[06:59] <dooglus> bob2: ok.
[06:59] <moj0rising> It'd be awesome if we had linux clients but this is one step closer to that if it were to happen.
[06:59] <bob2> dooglus: I'd email the security team too, tho
[06:59] <caustictwin> deepwoodz: did you install build-essential from apt-get?
[07:00] <deepwoodz> well actually i didnt install anything my brother did
[07:00] <Ninjew> moj0rising: Well, kenyon doesn't have THAT many simultaneous clients, but we have been using samba in various version for years with no problems... are you trying to move from windows servers to linux or from some other linux solution to samba?
[07:00] <deepwoodz> so where would that be?
[07:00] <dooglus> bob2: ok thanks.  i guess the first thing to do is search bugzilla and see if it's already famous :)
[07:00] <deepwoodz> he didnt know too much about linux
[07:00] <deepwoodz> i know a lil more but i didn install the distro
[07:00] <bob2> dooglus: heh
[07:00] <moj0rising> Ninjew: We actually use Netware now...
[07:00] <Ninjew> moj0rising: ohohoh
[07:00] <bob2> deepwoodz: there's little need to compile things in ubuntu, most htings are available pre-build
[07:00] <caustictwin> well, there is a gcc compiler contained in build-essential
[07:00] <bob2> er, pre-built
[07:01] <caustictwin> type apt-get install build-essential in a terminal
[07:01] <moj0rising> we have a domain currently being migrated from NT4 to w2k3 w/ AD...
[07:01] <deepwoodz> ok thanx
[07:01] <Ninjew> moj0rising: I always forget about netware :)
[07:01] <moj0rising> they are seriously considering moving the fileservers to MS.
[07:01] <Ninjew> moj0rising: Try posting to the samba mailing lists, you may get more responses than the irc channel
[07:01] <nnonix> netwho?
[07:01] <Amaranth> netware *shudder*
[07:01] <bob2> caustictwin: is your nick fro the afx pseudonym?
[07:01] <deepwoodz> thanx imma try that
[07:01] <moj0rising> haha ,many people do, Ninjew
[07:01] <Amaranth> my college runs netware, it scares me
[07:01] <moj0rising> Ninjew: good idea.
[07:02] <caustictwin> bob2: a conglomeration of Caustic Window and Aphex Twin yes
[07:02] <moj0rising> I'll do that for sure. I might get a lot of replies too.
[07:02] <caustictwin> a friend of mine and I made music under the name
[07:02] <bob2> hah
[07:02] <weiorhwe> i need a hangover cure
[07:02] <bob2> weiorhwe: water + sleep + bacon
[07:02] <Amaranth> oops, bed time
[07:02] <caustictwin> that was a long long time though
[07:02] <weiorhwe> bacon!
[07:02] <weiorhwe> sounds good.. will do.
[07:03] <nnonix> weiorhwe: more booze
[07:03] <nickrud> Quequeg, it's not?! I've kinda live'd my life as if it was
[07:03] <weiorhwe> i drank it all
[07:03] <bob2> weiorhwe: powerade/gatorade seem to help rehydration, too
[07:03] <moj0rising> I have another question: does anyone know a simple way to install nvidia drivers on breezy?
[07:03] <weiorhwe> modprobe nvidia
[07:03] <weiorhwe> works for me
[07:03] <bob2> moj0rising: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:03] <Ninjew> moj0rising: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:03] <Quequeg> nickrud:  http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html.  ;)
[07:03] <moj0rising> I guess my card is not supported by the standard methods.
[07:04] <Ninjew> moj0rising: what card?
[07:04] <moj0rising> I tried that, one...
[07:04] <weiorhwe> you need to edit xorg.conf
[07:04] <moj0rising> mx200.
[07:04] <nnonix> anyone here have amarok running correctly under gnome in breezy? --- anyone, anyone??
[07:04] <bob2> moj0rising: yay for nvidia
[07:04] <bob2> moj0rising: old geforces aren't supported anymote
[07:04] <moj0rising> haha.
[07:04] <moj0rising> really?
[07:04] <nickrud> I'd already searched another site; I will have to think again, no thanks to you :)
[07:04] <Ninjew> moj0rising: There is a legacy package I believe
[07:05] <bob2> moj0rising: you need the -legacy package
[07:05] <moj0rising> There weres ome instructions posted to ubuntuforums...
[07:05] <Ninjew> moj0rising: check nvidia's site for the linux driver release notes to see actual support
[07:05] <moj0rising> ..but they weren't working for me.
[07:05] <tzapachuau> hello
[07:05] <bonee> can i still get w32codecs with apt-get
[07:05] <nickrud> god, I hate when I have to think.
[07:05] <bob2> bonee: no, it was never in ubuntu
[07:05] <tzapachuau> ci tried installing xmms
[07:05] <moj0rising> bob2: is there a legacy package in apt repositories?
[07:05] <tzapachuau> but i got too may dependencides eoor
[07:06] <tzapachuau> error
[07:06] <bonee> its was when i add the extra repositories on ubuntuguide
[07:06] <bonee> that was back then
[07:06] <tzapachuau>  xmms: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[07:06] <tzapachuau>         Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not going to be installed
[07:06] <tzapachuau>         Depends: libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4) but it is not going to be installed
[07:06] <bob2> moj0rising: yeah, linux-restricted-modules-something-legacy
[07:06] <tzapachuau> and when i try to install the dependencies
[07:06] <bob2> tzapachuau: please don't paste things in here
[07:06] <weiorhwe> tzapachuau, apt-get -f install
[07:06] <moj0rising> I know you can't use the most current drivers.
[07:06] <bob2> tzapachuau: also, xmms is in ubuntu
[07:06] <MadpilotPPC> bonee, it's not strictly speaking in the Ubuntu repos, but see RestrictedFormats on the wiki for a fix
[07:06] <bob2> tzapachuau: don't try to use Debian .debs on ubuntu
[07:06] <tzapachuau> ok
[07:06] <MadpilotPPC> !tell bonee about restricted
[07:06] <bonee> can i get the site
[07:06] <moj0rising> ahha! I'll check that, bob2. Thanks!
[07:07] <tzapachuau> what ablut the libc6
[07:07] <tzapachuau> *about
[07:07] <tzapachuau> when i try to install it
[07:07] <tzapachuau> i'm getting dependencied error for other files
[07:07] <bob2> tzapachuau: that's because you went and downloaded a .deb from some random other site
[07:07] <tzapachuau> and then it goes on like this
[07:07] <bob2> tzapachuau: why don't you tell us where you got it from?
[07:07] <deepwoodz> ok when i tried to get the build essentials here wut it said
[07:07] <deepwoodz>   apt-get install build-essential
[07:07] <deepwoodz> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:07] <deepwoodz> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[07:07] <tzapachuau> xmms.org
[07:07] <bob2> tzapachuau: so, don't do that
[07:07] <tzapachuau> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/sound/xmms.html
[07:08] <tzapachuau> ok
[07:08] <bob2> tzapachuau: it's in ubuntu, just install it withsynaptic
[07:08] <weiorhwe> try typing xmms
[07:08] <bob2> tzapachuau: rich, which is totally wrong.  packages from debian will not work on ubuntu
[07:08] <bob2> deepwoodz: don't paste in here
[07:08] <tzapachuau> xmms: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:08] <deepwoodz> o sorry
[07:08] <MadpilotPPC> !paste
[07:08] <bob2> deepwoodz: also, that error explains the problem; run apt-get with sudo
[07:08] <ubotu> rumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[07:08] <deepwoodz> that wut it said tho, when i did wut he told me to do
[07:08] <bob2> deepwoodz: and please use english in here, not AIMish
[07:08] <deepwoodz> ok
[07:08] <deepwoodz> lol @ aimish
[07:08] <bob2> tzapachuau: you installed it wrong
[07:08] <tzapachuau> okay
[07:08] <bob2> yes, that's an example of what I mean
[07:09] <bob2> tzapachuau: install the ubuntu package
[07:09] <MadpilotPPC> I thought it was AIMglish? ;)
[07:09] <bob2> tzapachuau: sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:09] <tzapachuau> i'll try to do it with apt-get
[07:10] <tzapachuau> pasting the output
[07:10] <tzapachuau> in pastebin
[07:10] <nnonix> exit
[07:10] <bob2> thank you
[07:10] <tzapachuau> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2627
[07:10] <McScruff> lo
[07:10] <tzapachuau> should i remove again
[07:11] <bob2> tzapachuau: sudo dpkg -P xmms ; sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:11] <Bergcube> Good morning, Ubuntuers. Is there som (relatively) straight-forward way to get synaptic to restore / regenerate the original / default sources list? Yeah, I know I can edit it manually, and will if I have to. I simply wonder if there isn't an easier way for the lazy among us.
[07:11] <bob2> tzapachuau: yes, it has to be removed first
[07:11] <NsOmNiAc> can anyone help me with sharing printers under Ubuntu.. I have them installed locally but wanting to share them to other users inside the network
[07:11] <tzapachuau> ok
[07:11] <bob2> Bergcube: apt-setup
[07:11] <bob2> Bergcube: backing up config files before modifying them is a good habit to get into, tho
[07:11] <tzapachuau> so it basically means that when we install with apy-get
[07:11] <McScruff> i want to blacklist my pda, how do i do this :S
[07:11] <tzapachuau> then it will install all the libraries too
[07:11] <bob2> tzapachuau: yes
[07:12] <bob2> McScruff: how do you mean?
[07:12] <bob2> the module?
[07:12] <Bergcube> bob2~ Thank you. And, yes I agree. When I added respositories I didn't imagine I would wish to remove them. Still, it was kinda lame. Will apt-setup do /only/ that?
[07:12] <flux_> How do i install UBUNTU?
[07:12] <tzapachuau> is there any site from where i can see all the softwares which i can install with apt-get
[07:12] <flux_> Sorru..
[07:12] <bob2> flux_: download cd. burn it. boot it.
[07:12] <flux_> How do i install WINE
[07:12] <bob2> Bergcube: it will regenerate the default.
[07:13] <bob2> Bergcube: I tend to just add things at the bottom so it's easy to see what's new
[07:13] <McScruff> bob2: i want to use it in vmware, but ubuntu takes control, i want to stop this
[07:13] <bob2> tzapachuau: it's 15 000 or so packages
[07:13] <tzapachuau> i wanted to install http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html too
[07:13] <McScruff> bob2: its a usb device
[07:13] <crimsun> tzapachuau, vlc, too, is in universe
[07:13] <weiorhwe> tzapachuau, apt-get install vlc
[07:13] <tzapachuau> so basically i'll just try asp-get install <the packedge name>
[07:13] <weiorhwe> it's all their mang
[07:13] <Bergcube> bob2~ When it regenerates the default, does it just touch the sources file. Or will it also disappear installed packages from un-default locations?
[07:14] <tzapachuau> and see if its there
[07:14] <weiorhwe> dont
[07:14] <weiorhwe> forget sudo before apt-get
[07:14] <bob2> Bergcube: no tool would do something as dangerous as that
[07:14] <weiorhwe> apt-cache search whatever
[07:14] <tzapachuau> ok
[07:14] <weiorhwe> for searching
[07:14] <bob2> tzapachuau: apt-cache search whatever
[07:14] <fr33mind> Question: where evolution put configuration file for mail account list ??  I try to restore my evolution parameter from my user account backup.  I look in .evolution, .gnome2_private and .gconf/apps
[07:14] <Bergcube> bob2~ Then you have given me all the help I need for now!  Brilliant, thanks a lot!
[07:15] <weiorhwe> have you tried ~/Mail ?
[07:15] <Bigbeaver> Anyone fermilar with DRU stuff for X? I'm running GLXINFO in verbose mode and get the following error.  dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r128_dri.so failed.  So it can't seem to find this file. Any idea how I can get it?
[07:15] <Bigbeaver> DRU=DRI
[07:15] <tzapachuau> doesnt xmms support mp3?
[07:15] <McScruff> it does
[07:15] <tzapachuau> any good mp3 player around
[07:15] <McScruff> i like amarok
[07:15] <weiorhwe> tzapachuau, you need the universe repositories
[07:15] <weiorhwe> amarok is excellent..
[07:16] <tzapachuau> okay
[07:16] <bob2> Bergcube: perhaps I misinterpreted you; it will remove them from the available package list, so if you remove a package from a non-default source, apt won't be able to reinstall it
[07:16] <bob2> tzapachuau: yes, xmms does
[07:16] <flux_> Where can i start Wine?
[07:16] <weiorhwe> Bigbeaver, you need to install the ATI xorg package
[07:16] <robert1123> is there a way to see what programs are available in diffrent repositories
[07:17] <weiorhwe> xserver-xorg*
[07:17] <tzapachuau> i tried to play mp3 with my xmms and then now it hangs
[07:17] <tzapachuau> lol
[07:17] <bob2> robert1123: yes
[07:17] <bob2> robert1123: but why? each ubuntu repository has > 1000 packages
[07:17] <bob2> robert1123: universe has > 10 000
[07:17] <Bergcube> bob2~ Yes, of course.  That is given.  But the already installed non-default thingamajong (for example the win32 codecs) won't be thrown out without me actively wanting to do so.  I take it?
[07:17] <bob2> tzapachuau: you need to configure it to use esound for output
[07:17] <tzapachuau> ok
[07:17] <flux_> Where do i find Repesitories?
[07:17] <weiorhwe> tzapachuau, look in preferences -> Output
[07:17] <MadpilotPPC> !tell flux_ about repositories
[07:17] <bob2> Bergcube: right
[07:18] <tzapachuau> it hangs now
[07:18] <tzapachuau> should i just kill -9 it
[07:18] <weiorhwe> yes
[07:18] <bob2> no
[07:18] <robert1123> bob2: well I am installing webmin but it is not the updated one and I want to get the updated one
[07:18] <weiorhwe> it's frozen
[07:18] <bob2> robert1123: ouch
[07:18] <robert1123> flux: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:19] <Bergcube> bob2~ Then you understood me right; I understood you right as well.  And I am happy!
[07:19] <robert1123> bob2: yea
[07:19] <bob2> Bergcube: heh
[07:19] <weiorhwe> i love s0ciopath
[07:19] <McScruff> i cant find a  tutorial of how to add this usb device to my blacklist
[07:20] <Ninjew> Does anyone know any better id3 taggers than easytag?
[07:21] <robert1123> does any one know the repository for webmin
[07:21] <crimsun> something that uses taglib, Ninjew
[07:21] <weiorhwe> is it OSS?
[07:21] <weiorhwe> robert1123, chances are it's in universe
[07:22] <bob2> weiorhwe: robert1123 misphrased hsi question; he wants a more recent version than is in ubuntu
[07:22] <weiorhwe> oh
[07:22] <robert1123> weiorhwe: yes a more recent version.
[07:22] <weiorhwe> dunno then
[07:22] <robert1123> thanks though
[07:22] <din> gn
[07:23] <weiorhwe> ;)
[07:23] <weiorhwe> sweet dreams
[07:23] <bob2> robert1123: just get the tarball, I guess
[07:23] <bob2> any plan involving webmin is kinda doomed, anyway
[07:24] <robert1123> bob2: why do u think that
[07:24] <weiorhwe> "A web-based interface for system administration for Unix. Setup user accounts,
[07:24] <weiorhwe> DNS, file sharing and the program is freeware."
[07:24] <weiorhwe> what do you need that for?
[07:24] <weiorhwe> there used to be something on redhat like that
[07:24] <bob2> linuxconf
[07:25] <bob2> robert1123: I don't trust it to edit config files
[07:25] <weiorhwe> maybe that'd work, robert1123
[07:25] <robert1123> oh
[07:25] <robert1123> weiorhwe: linuxconf?
[07:25] <weiorhwe> yeah
[07:25] <bob2> noooooooooo
[07:25] <robert1123> bob2?
[07:25] <weiorhwe> lol
[07:26] <robert1123> bob2: no?
[07:26] <weiorhwe> i guess not
[07:26] <robert1123> yea i guess
[07:26] <bob2> linuxconf has an even worse reputation than webmin
[07:27] <weiorhwe> never found much use for it, personally
[07:27] <robert1123> bob2: is there something that you would recommend?
[07:27] <bob2> I'd recommend just editing the files yourself
[07:27] <bob2> failing that, webmin, I guess
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> linuxconf - gee - aint herd about that in ages..
[07:28] <Ninjew> god linuxconf
[07:28] <Ninjew> its so bad
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> i 'hear' people rant about webmin.. but havent really seen any real issues myself withit.. or any web sites actually discuss the program.
[07:28] <Ninjew> There is no substitute to configuring things yourself, imho
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> i use it on my single user box at times.
[07:28] <robert1123> bob2: well edited the files myself is the ideal but I dont have the time to learn all the time
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> or my little home lan.
[07:29] <robert1123> I need something quick sometimes
[07:29] <weiorhwe> configuring your system is quick once you have done it a few hundred times
[07:29] <heatxsink> weiorhwe:  yes
[07:29] <weiorhwe> :D
[07:29] <weiorhwe> i just installed ubuntu today in fact
[07:29] <robert1123> lol! that's the point I dont have time for a few hundred times at the moment
[07:30] <heatxsink> weiorhwe:  good good...
[07:30] <heatxsink> weiorhwe:  come to this side, it's much nicer
[07:30] <weiorhwe> well, i've installed it a bunch of times
[07:30] <weiorhwe> lol
[07:30] <heatxsink> are there any ubuntu user groups in the bay area?
[07:30] <B_166-ER-X> it took like a month before my ubuntu was 'just right' then i installed breezy and all crashed...had to reinstall ;)
[07:30] <weiorhwe> i switch around
[07:30] <heatxsink> hehe
[07:30] <heatxsink> that's what happened to me too
[07:30] <heatxsink> hoary..ooh nice, ahh everything configured....then ooh breezy....bAAAM
[07:31] <heatxsink> everything gone
[07:31] <B_166-ER-X> he..
[07:31] <heatxsink> but I did switch machines
[07:31] <Bigbeaver> Anyone fermilar with DRI stuff for X? I'm running GLXINFO in verbose mode and get the following error.  dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r128_dri.so failed.  Can't seem to find the file but if I do a locate I find the r128_dri.so in /usr/lib/dri/r128_dri.so. Not sure if this is that r128 that is supposed to be with X.  I have xserver-xorg-driver-ati installed.
[07:31] <heatxsink> so in theory i bet everything would've been just fine
[07:31] <weiorhwe> yeah.. i won't be switching to breezy on the family machine until it's been out for a few months
[07:31] <B_166-ER-X> man... 'evrything gone?'     at the login screen i had a message saying that my /home didnt exist
[07:31] <weiorhwe> same thing happened to me
[07:31] <heatxsink> Bigbeaver:  shouldn't that be fglrx instead of ATI?
[07:32] <heatxsink> weiorhwe:  i found that LIRC, and some madwifi drivers don't work
[07:32] <heatxsink> cause the kernel is 2.6.12
[07:32] <weiorhwe> wifi seems to be a big pain
[07:32] <weiorhwe> not sure i'll be switching
[07:32] <heatxsink> weiorhwe:  it's not that bad if you do your homework
[07:32] <heatxsink> hehe
[07:33] <weiorhwe> one day maybe
[07:33] <heatxsink> oh man I wouldn't have it anyother way
[07:33] <heatxsink> hehe
[07:33] <B_166-ER-X> at least, wait until your system is perfectly tweaked before trying to install something new that might scramble things totally up
[07:33] <weiorhwe> i still haven't gone to 100mbps ethernet
[07:34] <weiorhwe> get yourself a hard drive imager
[07:34] <weiorhwe> then you can mess things up all you want
[07:35] <B_166-ER-X> that reminds me, i have to file a bug repport
[07:36] <weiorhwe> of course it runs netbsd!
[07:37] <flux_> MadPilotPPC, how do i install WINE?
[07:38] <weiorhwe> apt-get install wine
[07:38] <flux_> thats all?
[07:38] <weiorhwe> sudo apt-get install wine
[07:38] <MadpilotPPC> flux_, never done it myself - it is in the repos, though, like weiorhwe said...
[07:38] <weiorhwe> install the suggested packages as well
[07:38] <flux_> MadpilotPPC
[07:38] <flux_> Sorry
[07:39] <flux_> root@xp1700:/home/flux# apt-get install wine
[07:39] <flux_> Reading package lists... Done
[07:39] <flux_> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:39] <flux_> wine is already the newest version.
[07:39] <flux_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded.
[07:39] <bob2> flux_: do not paste in here
[07:39] <flux_> ok..
[07:39] <bob2> flux_: and you already have wine, so just run it now
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> and this tells us? :P
[07:39] <flux_> Where do i run it?
[07:39] <tristanmike> What is the command to see my partitions please?
[07:39] <bob2> flux_: wine program.exe
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> 'use the shell luke'
[07:40] <bob2> tristanmike: there isn't one
[07:40] <weiorhwe> why are you root
[07:40] <bob2> tristanmike: aside from looking through dmsg
[07:40] <bob2> tristanmike: or fdisk -l /dev/hdwhatever
[07:40] <weiorhwe> don't run wine as root, it'll crash
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> 'fdisk -l' should show the drives on the system
[07:40] <flux_> where do i find WIne?
[07:40] <tristanmike> bob2, oh, really, wow, thanx
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> flux_,  open up a shell, type 'wine'
[07:40] <bob2> flux_: 15:39:57           bob2 | flux_: wine program.exe
[07:40] <bob2> flux_: that's hwo you run it frome a terminal
[07:40] <vik> got a strange sound-card problem: it plays at half speed. It's a VIA686 onboard chip (ac97 codec). I'm using alsa
[07:41] <bob2> tristanmike: actually, I'm wrong, sorry; what Dr_Willis said
[07:42] <flux_> bob2, bash: wine-program.exe: command not found
[07:42] <tristanmike> bob2, Dr_Willis, thanx
[07:42] <bob2> flux_: that's not what I said
[07:42] <flux_> oh..
[07:42] <flux_> Sorry... Im norwegian... NOt so good in english...
[07:43] <Jhonny> Hi, plz, how can i reinstall windows xp in dual boot (sorry i need windows for using Flash 7), without loosing my ubuntu instalation?
[07:43] <tristanmike> Dr_Willis, when I "fdisk -l" nothing happens, I just go back to the command prompt
[07:43] <weiorhwe> tristanmike, sudo
[07:43] <MadpilotPPC> cool to see that this is running now: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/
[07:43] <tristanmike> weiorhwe, thanx, shoulda known
[07:44] <flux_> What is an shell?
[07:44] <weiorhwe> program to type commands in
[07:44] <MadpilotPPC> flux_, a terminal
[07:45] <flux_> CAn i paste what i got?
[07:45] <MadpilotPPC> !tell flux_ about paste
[07:46] <graham> anyone here running ubuntu on a mac with dual-g5s
[07:47] <cafuego_> graham: Yes, nalioth.
[07:47] <paulproteus|lapt> graham: 'Fraid I'm not.  Wimpy iBook G4. ;)
[07:47] <cafuego_> graham: he may not be awake, though.
[07:48] <brainbox> any tips on aterm cut/paste to mozilla?
[07:48] <graham> well if there isn't any immediate : "Oh you dont want to do that" i think i'll have to give it a try
[07:48] <weiorhwe> brainbox, should work fine
[07:48] <graham> works great on my AMD
[07:48] <brainbox> weiorhwe: got problem pasting from aterm to mozilla..
[07:48] <brainbox> weiorhwe: same like xterm.
[07:48] <cafuego_> graham: Go with breezy (2.6.12 kernel) and it should be fine.
[07:49] <weiorhwe> using the default install?
[07:49] <brainbox> weiorhwe: yup.
[07:49] <cafuego_> And the ppc64 kernel (I believe the boot option is power4-smp)
[07:49] <graham> cafuego_: Thanks
[07:49] <brainbox> weiorhwe: can you share ur .Xdefaults?
[07:49] <weiorhwe> brainbox, i suppose.. what for?
[07:50] <flux_> I still not understand how to start wine..
[07:50] <flux_> mhm
[07:50] <flux_> hmm
[07:50] <weiorhwe> brainbox, try it via the menus too
[07:50] <weiorhwe> right click, etc
[07:50] <weiorhwe> flux_, it needs to be configured first
[07:50] <brainbox> weiorhwe: are you using aterm?
[07:50] <weiorhwe> no
[07:50] <weiorhwe> flux_, apt-get install winesetuptk
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> i normally start wine with a command like.....
[07:50] <flux_> Where do i find a shell?
[07:50] <snausages> hi all, how can i install cursor themes?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> wine /path/to/windows/dir/sol.exe
[07:50] <brainbox> weiorhwe: what terminal are you using?
[07:50] <weiorhwe> rxvt
[07:51] <brainbox> you don't have problem copy/paste from rxvt to others apps?
[07:51] <weiorhwe> no problem
[07:51] <weiorhwe> i don't have that problem on another computer using Konsole
[07:51] <mpool> hi, any ideas on how to make Breezy disable ipv6 AAAA lookups?
[07:51] <weiorhwe> and another using xterm
[07:52] <brainbox> damn.. can't figure this out. i found that xterm has this kind of problem http://www.davidsimmons.com/soft/xtermhacks/
[07:52] <Oetzi> mpool: why do you want to disable?
[07:52] <weiorhwe> mpool, what do you mean?
[07:52] <mpool> because my nameserver ignores the queries, so DNS is very slow
[07:53] <flux_> CAn someone please help me? I are going to have a LAN, and i need to have a teamspeak, FlightSimulator server!
[07:53] <cafuego_> mpool: firefox?
[07:53] <mpool> weiorhwe: i mean that Breezy's dns resolver sends AAAA queries for IPv6 addresses, but most servers don't respond
[07:53] <mpool> cafuego_: i know about the firefox setting, but it's affecting other things too
[07:53] <mpool> such as apt and ssh
[07:54] <mpool> and since 99.9% of users don't need ipv6 it seems like a bad default
[07:54] <MadpilotPPC> flux_, if you're still looking for a shell, Application menu --> System Tools --> Terminal
[07:54] <weiorhwe> hmm, dunno
[07:54] <bob2> mpool: there's a number of bugs open about it; preventing the ipv6 module from loading was the "best" solution, iirc
[07:54] <mpool> hi bob2
[07:54] <weiorhwe> set it caching only or something
[07:54] <caustictwin> I installed mplayer-386 and got the dlls from the mplayer website however I do not know where to install the codecs to
[07:54] <cafuego_> mpool: Odd though, mine just defaults to ipv4 and is as fast as when ipv6 isn't loaded.
[07:55] <mpool> bob2: actually i don't have the module loaded and it's still doing the queries
[07:55] <mpool> none of my interfaces have ipv6 addresses
[07:55] <flux_> weiorhwe, what should i do now?
[07:55] <mpool> cafuego_: well, maybe your nameserver handles them OK?
[07:55] <mpool> cafuego_: does tcpdump show it sending AAAA queries?
[07:56] <weiorhwe> flux_, you want to run a flightsimulator server?
[07:56] <flux_> Yes, and teamspeak;)
[07:56] <cafuego_> mpool: Hold on
[07:56] <Jhonny> Hi, plz, how can i reinstall windows xp in dual boot (sorry i need windows for using Flash 7), without loosing my ubuntu instalation?
[07:56] <flux_> I need to go in a minute
[07:57] <weiorhwe> i think you would have to refer to the teamspeak website
[07:57] <flux_> yes..
[07:57] <mpool> Jhonny: use resize2fs to shrink your linux partition to make space (google for it)
[07:57] <mpool> then make a new partition for xp and install into that
[07:57] <flux_> but to use ATC Radar Screnn i have to use wine.
[07:57] <weiorhwe> ok, well.. it's not in the repositories
[07:57] <cafuego_> mpool: Nope.
[07:57] <weiorhwe> flux_, winesetuptk
[07:57] <weiorhwe> that work for you?
[07:58] <mpool> cafuego_: and you didn't change anything from the defaults?
[07:58] <mpool> wierd
[07:58] <flux_> Shall i write that in terminal?
[07:58] <weiorhwe> flux_, wine will not run most games
[07:58] <paulproteus|lapt> cafuego_: It's a matter of broken DNS servers or not.
[07:58] <Oetzi> Jhonny: or use an virtual Machine solution
[07:58] <cafuego_> mpool: No, I get an A+ and then a CNAME.
[07:58] <Kumakun> Hahaha! I'm connected through Ubuntu!
[07:58] <paulproteus|lapt> cafuego_: Broken DNS servers make it slow for users.
[07:58] <paulproteus|lapt> Kumakun: Congrats. :)
[07:58] <weiorhwe> flux_, yes
[07:58] <flux_> no, but ATC Radar Screen i think goo
[07:58] <Kumakun> I'm having a little trouble with the backports...
[07:58] <flux_> flux@xp1700:~$ winesetuptk
[07:58] <flux_> bash: winesetuptk: command not found
[07:59] <weiorhwe> flux_, sudo apt-get install winesetuptk
[07:59] <cafuego_> paulproteus|lapt: Huzzah, my dns server isn't broken!
[07:59] <weiorhwe> type that
[07:59] <Jhonny> Using Virtual machine slows down the flash, i work with flash professionally
[07:59] <weiorhwe> flash should die
[08:00] <paulproteus|lapt> cafuego_: Indeedy. :)
[08:00] <flux_> apt-get install winesetuptk
[08:00] <Jhonny> what about grub, how to recover it?
[08:00] <Oetzi> 07:59 < Jhonny> Using Virtual machine slows down the flash, i work with flash professionally so you are a poor boy
[08:00] <flux_> winesetuptk is already the newest version.
[08:00] <flux_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded.
[08:00] <weiorhwe> try typing winesetuptk in the shell now flux_
[08:01] <flux_> is shell Terminal?
[08:01] <weiorhwe> yes
[08:01] <flux_> bash: winesetuptk: command not found
[08:01] <weiorhwe> lol
[08:01] <cafuego_> sudo winesetuptk
[08:02] <weiorhwe> thank you
[08:02] <mpool> cafuego_: that's strange that yours only sends A+
[08:02] <mpool> i just installed this
[08:02] <weiorhwe> flux_, try that
[08:02] <mpool> maybe there are some updates that fix it
[08:02] <cafuego_> mpool: breezy, amd64
[08:02] <cafuego_> mpool: Note, the A+ is 'host' querying the dns server; not my dns server querying another dns server.
[08:03] <paulproteus|lapt> cafuego_: The problem is that libc and host don't always do the same thing for DNS resolution.
[08:03] <paulproteus|lapt> You want to call gethostbyname() with some packet tracing.
[08:03] <mpool> ah
[08:03] <mpool> right, 'host' is different from how other apps do it
[08:03] <mpool> can you try with say telnet?
[08:03] <flux_> Done
[08:03] <flux_> Where do i start WINE now?
[08:04] <weiorhwe> in the shell, wine program.exe
[08:04] <cafuego_> Yep there we go, AAA -> A-> Response.
[08:05] <flux_> flux@xp1700:~$ wine program.exe
[08:05] <flux_> bash: wine: command not found
[08:05] <mpool> ah so it's not just me
[08:05] <weiorhwe> program.exe is an example
[08:05] <cafuego_> .2 seconds
[08:05] <weiorhwe> flux_, type which wine
[08:06] <weiorhwe> flux_, WINE is not windows
[08:10] <coobra> o/
[08:11] <ubuntu_k> ?
[08:11] <coobra> ? :P
[08:12] <ubuntu_k> hehe
[08:12] <ubuntu_k> this is my first time using IRC
[08:12] <B_166-ER-X> vi why_use_windows..........document empty;
[08:12] <ubuntu_k> on first time istalled ubuntu
[08:12] <B_166-ER-X> ubuntu_k,  ok.. :)
[08:12] <B_166-ER-X> have any problem or ?
[08:13] <ubuntu_k> I need help
[08:13] <ubuntu_k> I dont know how to install it with windows
[08:13] <B_166-ER-X> ? what do you mean ??
[08:13] <ubuntu_k> eh. ..
[08:14] <aftertaf> morning all :)
[08:14] <bur[n] er> anyone familiar with using -r disk: options with rdesktop?
[08:14] <ubuntu_k> I mean that I want to have optional to start windows or ubuntu when I start computer
[08:15] <ubuntu_k> b-166?
[08:15] <ubuntu_k> could you help me?
[08:15] <B_166-ER-X> uh
[08:15] <B_166-ER-X> well you use GRUB to do this, but you should have partitionned your HD at the install of ubuntu , did you ?
[08:16] <ubuntu_k> how to partition the disk?
[08:16] <ubuntu_k> how many partitions should I make?
[08:17] <B_166-ER-X> i dont know how to partition after installation, but somebody might.
[08:17] <B_166-ER-X> and you should need one for ubuntu and one for windows ...
[08:17] <B_166-ER-X> i have windows here too, but on another HD , so no need to partition
[08:17] <aftertaf> gparted is a gui for partitioning...
[08:17] <B_166-ER-X> much simpler if you ask me.
[08:18] <aftertaf> grub is a boot loader, you choose what you want to load with it.
[08:18] <ubuntu_k> what is gparted?
[08:18] <McScruff> has anyone managed to compile mythTV?
[08:18] <sri> anybody gotten gnome-bluetooth-manager working on breezy?
[08:18] <sri> it's supposed to giveyou feedback whenyou hit the scan menu item
[08:18] <fr33mind> Question: where evolution put configuration file for mail account list ??  I try to restore my evolution parameter from my user account backup.  I look in .evolution, .gnome2_private and .gconf/apps
[08:19] <sri> but on console it talks about various assertions failing like GTK_IS_LABEL
[08:19] <Kumakun> What exactly do I have to do to start updating my os towards breezy?
[08:19] <sri> which clearly indicates that it's failing to put up a gui.
[08:19] <aftertaf> !upgrade2breezy
[08:19] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:19] <aftertaf> Kumakun:  ^^^^^
[08:19] <Kumakun> Thanks. ^_^
[08:19] <aftertaf> ;)
[08:19] <aftertaf> sri:  if really broken, file a bug report....
[08:20] <sri> yeah I think I will
[08:20] <sri> there are other things that are broken
[08:21] <sri> gnome-phone-manager won't accept any pin I've defined :/
[08:21] <caustictwin> how does one play .pls files in breezy badger?
[08:22] <ubuntu_k> leave
[08:22] <vladuz976> anybody here using mutt with pop3 and knows a good guide that i could consult?
[08:23] <B_166-ER-X> 'thou who play with root, shall eventually kill the tree'
[08:23] <aftertaf_> hi honey i'm home :)
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> sri,  i had to set the pin in /etc/bluetooth/pin (i think) and restart the services.. but this was with the kde tools..
[08:24] <weiorhwe> vladuz976, the mutt help file is useful
[08:24] <weiorhwe> (really)
[08:24] <sri> Dr_Willis: yeah, I've odne all that it's something to do with bluez-pin or bluepin, neither of them work. ?/
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> i was thinking bluez-pin called bluepin
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> it wasent working.. then it worked. :P for me .  lol
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> i changed the pin from the default.
[08:25] <McScruff> please help me compile mythTV on breezy badger
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> and restarted.. BUT even then. there were some issues.
[08:25] <McScruff> i get this
[08:25] <McScruff> http://pastebin.ca/24166
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> McScruff,  why not just apt-get the binaries?
[08:25] <McScruff> i need to add a patch
[08:25] <robitaille> vladuz976, there is a small section on mutt and pop on that site: http://www.linuxnovice.org/main_software.php3?VIEW=VIEW&t_id=146
[08:25] <sri> Dr_Willis: yeah, I should try changing from the default but I doubt it will help :/
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> sri,  i THINK it may see you have the default still set - and  not like it...
[08:26] <paulproteus|lapt> McScruff: Now type 'make.
[08:26] <paulproteus|lapt> '
[08:26] <paulproteus|lapt> McScruff: $ make
[08:26] <McScruff> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> i tried the pin in the default file (1234) and it didnt work till i changed/.restarted.
[08:26] <paulproteus|lapt> McScruff: Do this:
[08:26] <paulproteus|lapt> sudo apt-get build-dep mythtv
[08:27] <vladuz976> robitaille: already saw that. didn't work for me. kept getting errors. plus it doesn't use fetchmail the guide only shows how to have mutt directly use pop
[08:27] <paulproteus|lapt> That should bring in everything you need.
[08:27] <paulproteus|lapt> "build-dep" installs only the build dependencies, not the package itself.
[08:27] <McScruff> E: Unable to find a source package for mythtv
[08:27] <paulproteus|lapt> McScruff: Have you enabled the "universe" respository?
[08:27] <paulproteus|lapt> McScruff: Do you know how to?
[08:28] <McScruff> i know how to
[08:28] <paulproteus|lapt> McScruff: If you don't understand something I say, ask.  I won't know you don't understand unless you say you don't know what I mean.
[08:28] <robitaille> vladuz976,  you use fetchmail?  Then you don't need to use pop in mutt since your mail will be in a local folder
[08:28] <paulproteus|lapt> Okay. :)
[08:28] <GNULinuxer> is it ok to upgrade to breezy now?
[08:28] <paulproteus|lapt> fetchmail++
[08:28] <vladuz976> robitaille: i guess then i need a guide on fetchmail
[08:28] <paulproteus|lapt> GNULinuxer: I'm running Breezy, and it's "fairly safe".
[08:28] <robitaille> GNULinuxer,  breezy works fine for me
[08:28] <Kumakun> Upgrading now. Hopefully this doesn't hose my install.
[08:29] <cafuego_> GNULinuxer: If you don't mind breakage, sure.
[08:29] <GNULinuxer> paulproteus|lapt: how safe is ``fairly safe'' ?
[08:29] <mpool> bob2: do you know a link for those ipv6/dns bugs?
[08:29] <paulproteus|lapt> GNULinuxer: If you're *NIX-aware enough to be using ``'', you'll be fine. ;)
[08:29] <GNULinuxer> cafuego_: breakage ? no i don't want breakage
[08:29] <cafuego_> GNULinuxer: Let me put it this way: There were 2 X releases over the past 24 hours.
[08:29] <paulproteus|lapt> GNULinuxer: Seriously, I've had no problems yet, but I dist-upgrade daily to make sure I have the freshest packages.
[08:29] <paulproteus|lapt> Which does often include X. :)
[08:30] <GNULinuxer> paulproteus|lapt: i am *NIX aware ... but i hate breakage
[08:30] <cafuego_> GNULinuxer: If you don't want breakage, wait until 2 weeks after breezy is released, then update.
[08:30] <grndslm> anybody here ever messed with the matchbox wm??
[08:30] <weiorhwe> is there a general channel on freenode?
[08:30] <GNULinuxer> cafuego_: yep, that's what I will do
[08:30] <paulproteus|lapt> weiorhwe: "General", like random chat?
[08:30] <weiorhwe> basically
[08:30] <cafuego_> 'less /dev/urandom'
[08:30] <deFrysk> weiorhwe, #freenode ?
[08:30] <cafuego_> lots of random chat.
[08:30] <MadpilotPPC> weiorhwe, there's always #ubuntu-offtopic...
[08:30] <tristanmike> !tell tristanmike about repositories
[08:31] <paulproteus|lapt> weiorhwe: Try /list in your IRC client.
[08:31] <weiorhwe> thanks
[08:31] <hans> help me with xchat
[08:31] <cafuego_> why?
[08:31] <BlueEagle> hans: What is the problem with xchat?
[08:31] <cafuego_> BlueEagle: in one word: 'xchat". ;-)
[08:32] <hans> it is rolling so fast
[08:32] <BlueEagle> cafuego_: Thankyou for that useful piece of input.
[08:32] <deFrysk> hans, we'll stop typing ;p
[08:32] <GNULinuxer> cafuego_: what's the diff. between random & urandom ?
[08:32] <[Spooky] > Anyone have any idea of how to installa the Java package when the ubuntuguide dosent work ? (i tried to download it from www.java.com and install and it didnt work)
[08:33] <cafuego_> One crahses your irc client, the other doesn't?
[08:33] <hans> it was recommended for leaning ubuntu
[08:33] <BlueEagle> hans: "rolling"? Are you trying to diable joins, parts, quits and nick displaid?
[08:33] <deFrysk> [Spooky] , first: never use ubuntuguide again
[08:34] <hans> dont know anything give a hint for self study xchat
[08:34] <dooglus> is anyone seeing strange behaviour from alt-tab in breezy?
[08:34] <dooglus> it's not drawing window borders for me any more
[08:34] <none_-> man random
[08:34] <dooglus> since yesterday's update
[08:35] <none_-> kind of interesting, actually
[08:35] <BlueEagle> hans: google? xchat.org?
[08:35] <cafuego_> dooglus: I get a 1-pixel shaded border
[08:35] <deFrysk> [Spooky] , in short : for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]
[08:35] <cafuego_> dooglus: Like the gksu password dialog does too, now.
[08:35] <dooglus> cafuego_: cafuego_ I'm talking about around the window you're about to switch to, not the icons in the middle of the screen.  you too?
[08:35] <paulproteus|lapt> deFrysk: You missed 'fakeroot'.
[08:36] <[Spooky] > deFrysk: ok let me try...
[08:36] <ak37> I think there is BlackDown java in the repos
[08:36] <hans> how do I talk to blueeagle and no one else
[08:36] <ak37> I have it installed and working
[08:36] <none_-> hans, /query blueeagle
[08:36] <cafuego_> dooglus: No, that behaves normally.
[08:37] <none_-> or /msg blueeagle
[08:37] <dooglus> cafuego_: what's normal?
[08:37] <cafuego_> dooglus: the windows border being drawn?
[08:37] <cafuego_> s/s//
[08:37] <deFrysk> [Spooky] , also install fakeroot
[08:38] <dooglus> cafuego_: oh.  wonder what I've done wrong then.  I see the border drawn for 1 frame, then it gets undrawn.  it just flickers into existance for 1/50th of a second
[08:38] <deFrysk> [Spooky] , and do fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file]
[08:38] <Myrtti> hm
[08:38] <deFrysk> and use sudo when dpkg -i
[08:39] <cafuego_> dooglus: Oh, the highlight around the actual window border, yes. That flashes in&out of exsitence.
[08:39] <dooglus> cafuego_: it shouldn't, should it?
[08:40] <bonee> in #fluxbox
[08:40] <bonee> i'm back
[08:40] <dooglus> I had a similar problem last week where the whole window I was switching to went black when I alt-tabbed to it - but that turned out to be I was missing a module in my xorg.conf.
[08:41] <IceDC571> what day is breezy supposed to be final?
[08:42] <ak37> 13th of Oct
[08:42] <[Spooky] > deFrysk: yes! it worked, thanks :) btw that *.deb is good for any user to use ?
[08:42] <IceDC571> thanks
[08:43] <deFrysk> [Spooky] , in ubuntu yes, if you wish to run azureus with it you have to put java in your path in .bashrc
[08:43] <[Spooky] > deFrysk: ok
[08:44] <deFrysk> [Spooky] , and again , use the wiki , not ubuntuguide please , its a bad/poor resource
[08:45] <dhonn> #ubuntu-dev
[08:45] <dhonn> ls
[08:45] <[Spooky] > deFrysk: ok, well the wiki is "hard to find" i think... maybe its a habbit ?
[08:45] <Kumakun> When did that change? I thought ubuntuguide used to be the endall be all?
[08:46] <deFrysk> [Spooky] , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is your ubuntu bible
[08:47] <deFrysk> !ubuntuguide
[08:47] <Myrtti> Kumakun: when people realized that it's not that informative and explains nothing, it helps no one understand the system they're using and thus adds the risk of user borking his/her system
[08:47] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[08:47] <Ashen> yo
[08:47] <darklogic> hey everyone
[08:48] <grndslm> anybody have any experience with devil's pie??
[08:48] <Nano|9000> hi Darklogic
[08:48] <Ashen> has anyone got a working nvidia-settings in breezy?
[08:48] <Myrtti> grndslm: I tried to use it, but no luck
[08:48] <Ashen> installed from the repos
[08:48] <darklogic> how can i add a module to the kernel permanently (as opposed to modprobe'ing it every time i reboot)?
[08:48] <Myrtti> grndslm: that was long time ago, might work now
[08:48] <McScruff> does anyone know where ican get liblame-dev?
[08:49] <grndslm> myrtti, apparently the 0.13 version has changed quite a bit
[08:49] <Myrtti> grndslm: could be
[08:49] <Ashen> darklogic: you could always put the modprobe command in rc.d
[08:49] <robitaille> McScruff,   it's in the Ubuntu multiverse repository   http://packages.ubuntu.com/liblame-dev
[08:49] <McScruff> ty
[08:50] <Ashen> darklogic: or any other script that runs at startup
[08:50] <Erron> anyone know where to get libjpeg-devel source
[08:50] <darklogic> Ashen, but is that the best way?
[08:50] <Ashen> darklogic: probably not...
[08:50] <darklogic> ;)
[08:50] <ak37> darklogic: I think there is an rc.modules file
[08:50] <Ashen> darklogic: but I dont see why it would be a "bad" way :)
[08:51] <ak37> let me check it out first
[08:51] <cafuego_> Erron: apt-cache search libjpeg
[08:51] <Erron> cafuego I need the source I only find rpms
[08:51] <Erron> I need the devel source
[08:52] <ak37> darklogic: type the module name at /etc/modules
[08:52] <cafuego_> Erron: add a deb-src line in your sources.list, then 'apt-get source <packagename>'
[08:52] <ak37> it lists the kernel modules to load at boot time
[08:52] <cafuego_> Erron: Note that source and package-dev are NOT the same thing. What are you compiling anyway?
[08:52] <bob2> Erron: "devel source"? you mean the headers?
[08:52] <cafuego_> Erron: Also, apt-cache search never finds RPMs.
[08:52] <Erron> yea basicly GD isnt getting JPEG :/
[08:52] <Erron> I'm on another box atm thats why
[08:53] <darklogic> ak37, perfect. thanks very much!
[08:53] <cafuego_> Erron: gd is compiled with jpeg support.
[08:53] <bob2> Erron: why are you compiling GD at all?
[08:53] <Erron> I need it for php, I need to prefix Jpeg and then get GD to compile with it
[08:53] <Erron> for distribution
[08:53] <Erron> or else I would use /usr
[08:53] <cafuego_> Erron: install php4-gd
[08:54] <cafuego_> Erron: It's all pre-built.
[08:54] <bob2> Erron: wtf
[08:54] <bob2> Erron: php in ubuntu also has gd and jpeg support
[08:54] <Erron> no bob lol I need this for not just ubuntu
[08:54] <Erron> this is for a project I need to distribute
[08:54] <Erron> and I need the stuff contained in the package
[08:55] <bob2> Erron: so, stop whatever you're doing
[08:55] <bob2> Erron: and explain what on earth your goal here is
[08:55] <cafuego_> Why would any sane human run precompiled 3rd party code?
[08:55] <Erron> its a software.. company needs it
[08:55] <bob2> Erron: and the software is written in php?
[08:55] <Erron> yes
[08:55] <Erron> mostly
[08:55] <Erron> frontend and some backend
[08:56] <cafuego_> So why can't the company install the gd module for php?
[08:56] <bob2> so what does this have to do with compiling php?
[08:56] <cafuego_> Coz compiling it on ubuntu will result in a module they probably can't load anyway.
[08:56] <Erron> cafuego I can compile gd module.. I just need to put the jpeg in a specific folder
[08:56] <Erron> cause I'm doing it static
[08:56] <bob2> no
[08:57] <bob2> this plan is broken
[08:57] <Erron> well it is how I need to do it
[08:57] <bob2> any plan involving compiling php statically is broken
[08:57] <Erron> It is already working ..
[08:57] <bob2> Erron: *why* do you think you need to compile php?
[08:57] <Erron> because I am told to do so
[08:57] <cafuego_> Erron: What apache/php and Distro does the target machine run?
[08:57] <Erron> its not just 1 target
[08:57] <Erron> this is for distribution
[08:57] <mpool> bob2: do you have a reference to those bugs about ipv6?
[08:58] <Erron> so I have to assume its people with minimal install
[08:58] <Erron> thats why everything has to be contained and runs out of our dir
[08:58] <Erron> dont wanna have conflict with other peoples system files or add any there
[08:58] <cafuego_> Erron: Then you package your software up and add a README saying "You need 1) PHP 2) GD with libjpeg". You can check this in php with "function_exists('imagejpeg')"
[08:59] <Erron> cafuego no it has to work out of the package
[08:59] <Erron> its a commercial product
[08:59] <Erron> I cant make users go and compile/install stuff
[08:59] <cafuego_> Erron: Then I'm sorry, but I can't help you.
[08:59] <bob2> mpool: no, sorry; it's either closed or bugzilla search is missing it.
[08:59] <Erron> I'm asking about jpeg not how to package
[08:59] <mpool> yep
[08:59] <cafuego_> Yes, sorry.
[08:59] <bob2> Erron: has someone checked whether you have permission to distribute this combined work?
[08:59] <Erron> yes..
[09:00] <Erron> this product is already on windows
[09:00] <Erron> i'm just assigned to put the php on lin
[09:00] <Erron> thats all
[09:00] <hans> Er der nogen dansktalende?
[09:01] <Erron> trust me I'm not having much fun lol I would do it much easier ways
[09:01] <Erron> but I'm told to do it a certain way so :o
[09:01] <cafuego_> Erron: Did you consider telling your manager he's a moron? (Diplomatically?)
[09:01] <Kumakun> Well....the update is still installing....so far it hasn't exploded...
[09:01] <Erron> cafuego the CEO actually
[09:02] <Erron> heh he's the programmer/owner so no I dont think so
[09:02] <cafuego_> Erron: Did you? Can I? :-)
[09:02] <Erron> lol
[09:02] <cafuego_> Probably  aredhat user too
[09:02] <StarKruzr> hi guys.  anyone know if I should be expecting things not to work when trying to compile a 2.4.19 kernel on my nice pretty new breezy-badger install?  It errors out on make bzImage and complains about an array in processor.h.
[09:02] <Quequeg> Erron, AFAIK, Only Oracle successfully gets away with what you're suggesting.
[09:02] <Erron> actually I have to get this thing working soon I need to test it on ibm platforms
[09:02] <Quequeg> And you're probably not working for Oracle.
[09:03] <Erron> they are partners with them
[09:03] <Erron> so..
[09:03] <cafuego_> Erron: Well, in the unlikely even this enterprise actually works, you'll want the libjpeg source. Use 'apt-get source'
[09:03] <Erron> I have the libjpeg sourcre
[09:03] <Erron> source* its just not compiling right when I prefix
[09:03] <cafuego_> All IBM employees I know would refuse to run a statically precompiled php from an unknown source.
[09:03] <bob2> I'm pretty sure you can't compile php4 on ubuntu so that it will work with arbitrary versions of apache
[09:03] <Erron> no .h/so/a nothing made
[09:03] <Erron> only 2 folder bin and man/man1
[09:04] <meeer> hi.. can anyone plss help me ... how to access g++ i have installed it but dont know how to open it :)
[09:04] <Erron> and we arnt using apache btw
[09:04] <cafuego_> And if they didn't, they'd ptobably lsoe their jobs <heh>
[09:04] <bob2> meeer: open it? you type 'g++' at the terminal to run it.
[09:04] <Erron> cafuego its not an unknown source
[09:04] <meeer> bob2: thanks lemme try
[09:05] <Erron> they give access through partnership.. and you develop product to work on their platform its their new chiphopper crap
[09:05] <bob2> Erron: I still don't see why you're compiling libjpeg
[09:05] <Erron> because our app requires GD with its support
[09:05] <bob2> Erron: even if you really want a static libjpeg, ubuntu has that already
[09:05] <meeer> bon2: g++: no input files
[09:05] <Erron> this isnt just ubuntu bob2 I just ask incase anyone here might know where to get the dev source
[09:05] <bob2> meeer: er, of course, you need to tell it what to compile
[09:05] <Erron> cause i only found rpms
[09:05] <Erron> its ok I'll figure it out thanks anyways
[09:05] <bob2> Erron: "dev source" is not a sensible phrase
[09:06] <mpool> meeer: typically "g++ -o hello hello.cc"
[09:06] <bob2> Erron: you really reall yreally need to define what you're trying to do more strictly
[09:06] <meeer> thats
[09:06] <Erron> bob2 if you saw my actual question from the start
[09:06] <squizzee> hello
[09:06] <Erron> I did state so
[09:06] <bob2> Erron: if it's "create a statically-linked php4 command line program", you're going about it all wrong
[09:07] <Erron> IT has been working
[09:07] <Erron> the only prob is moving it shared lib prob
[09:07] <meeer> mpool: am a very newb in linux.. it says no file o directory found..
[09:07] <carrarro> How do I do to install an application downloaded from the web. It came in like a ZIP file...
[09:07] <Erron> thats the only reason why I need it prefix'd
[09:07] <Erron> other then that its working perfectly fine
[09:07] <mpool> meeer: what do you want to do with g++
[09:07] <mpool> it's a compiler
[09:07] <_Otaviano_>
[09:07] <_Otaviano_> Traduo Babel Fish   	Ajuda
[09:07] <_Otaviano_> In English:
[09:07] <_Otaviano_> where I obtain to driver for modem USR WINMODEM
[09:07] <mpool> you need some source to compile
[09:07] <_Otaviano_> where I obtain to driver for modem USR WINMODEM
[09:07] <mpool> are you trying to compile something you downloaded or are you trying to learn c++?
[09:08] <meeer> want to write c++
[09:08] <meeer> something like turbo c++
[09:08] <mpool> meeer: g++ is just the compiler
[09:08] <bob2> Erron: no, you don't need the libjpeg source at all then
[09:08] <mpool> like TCC.EXE or whatever it was called
[09:08] <meeer> ok got it..
[09:08] <mpool> mm
[09:08] <bob2> Erron: just compile php against it statically
[09:09] <Erron> you mean with --with-jpeg- right?
[09:09] <mpool> you can install Anjuta if you want a graphical environment
[09:09] <meeer> so is there anything like a package to write c++
[09:09] <Erron> and use --enable-static=yes
[09:09] <mpool> do you have a c++ tutorial or something?
[09:09] <carrarro> but is there a Integrated Development Environment for C++ in Ubuntu?
[09:09] <meeer> thanks
[09:09] <bob2> carrarro: there's anjuta and motor
[09:09] <bob2> carrarro: most people seem to use vim or emacs, tho
[09:09] <mpool> carrarro: i think Anjuta is such
[09:09] <mpool> or Kdevelop
[09:09] <Erron> bob2 yea but jpeg itself doesnt compile correctly into folder so I cant run php against it
[09:09] <carrarro> I downloaded  Anjuta, but I don't know how to install it.
[09:10] <mpool> but i think 95+% of linux programmers use vim or emacs
[09:10] <Erron> only way that its working right now is If I use /usr and then the comp has to have libjpeg installed to work
[09:10] <meeer> is vim or emacs gui
[09:10] <mrchicago> heh
[09:11] <mpool> kind of
[09:11] <carrarro> I tryed following the instructions in the readme file, but I couldn't get it to work
[09:12] <bob2> Erron: dude
[09:12] <bob2> Erron: install libjpeg62-dev.  tell php to compile statically.  the entire point of static compilation is that it does not use external libs at runtime.
[09:13] <mpool> carrarro: have you tried "sudo apt-get install anjuta" ?
[09:13] <mpool> meeer: so what i suggest you do is
[09:13] <mpool> "emacs ~/hello.c"
[09:13] <mpool> write some code into that, save it
[09:13] <mpool> then
[09:13] <mpool> "gcc -o hello hello.c"
[09:13] <meeer> thanks
[09:13] <carrarro> no, I'll try that.
[09:13] <mpool> "./hello"
[09:14] <mrchicago> heh if only my sdl stuff would work
[09:14] <StarKruzr> what happened to a.out, anyway
[09:14] <meeer> thanks guys// bye for now
[09:14] <carrarro> mpool: Do I need to specify a path?
[09:15] <mpool> carrarro: no
[09:15] <mpool> meeer: good luck!
[09:15] <carrarro> mpool: It didn't do it.
[09:15] <mpool> didn't do what?
[09:16] <carrarro> mpool: E: coudn't find Package anjuta
[09:16] <aftertaf> linner: sort of connected again.... 8-)
[09:16] <mpool> ah, might have to enable universe
[09:16] <The_Vox> carrarro: you need universe
[09:16] <carrarro> How do I enable universe?
[09:17] <The_Vox> !repos
[09:17] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:17] <The_Vox> carrarro: follow the two links
[09:17] <carrarro> okay...
[09:17] <The_Vox> read the first one to understand what you have to do, the second one has the URLs you need
[09:18] <carrarro> thank you.
[09:18] <The_Vox> np
[09:19] <brion> Anybody had the Breezy preview 1 installer fail trying to copy pptp-linux_1.5.0-5_i386.deb? I've got a matching md5sum on the .iso image and on the cdrom in the drive, but get a 'No such file or directory' error doing an ls in /cdrom/pool/main/p/pptp-linux which is a bit odd
[09:19] <mrchicago> im having trouble with kseti
[09:19] <mrchicago> and mysql
[09:21] <brion> well, we'll see if i can continue install without those pesky packages :)
[09:26] <hettar> Anyone know where I can get a libdvdcss package for breezy ?
[09:27] <deFrysk> !info libdvdcss
[09:28] <zack_> lmao
[09:28] <deFrysk> hettar, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-ae79fed9d60ccdf06f400ae76ad53867d94bb2b8
[09:28] <hettar> thanks
[09:28] <zack_> how u guys doing ! :)
[09:28] <BlueEagle> mrchicago: Getting an error messages? Not installing probably? Is this a personal or political issue?
[09:28] <BlueEagle> properly*
[09:32] <mrchicago> just that it cannot compile
[09:33] <mrchicago> libsdl is installed
[09:33] <Lichte> who does GNUstep stuff for ubuntu ?
[09:34] <mrchicago> just dont know why it isnt compiling
[09:34] <bob2> no one, really
[09:34] <bob2> mrchicago: mysql is already in ubuntu, there's no need to compile it
[09:35] <BlueEagle> mrchicago: Why are you compiling packages when there are pre-compiled binaries for your distribution?
[09:35] <BlueEagle> (not sure about kseti though=
[09:36] <BlueEagle> Why is my synaptic suddenly in danish and not norwegian btw? o.O
[09:37] <carrarro> The_Vox: thanks for the guidance. I now acces to it.
[09:37] <carrarro> The_Vox: Anjuta I mean.
[09:37] <BlueEagle> well, partly in danish anyways.
[09:37] <mrchicago> i was talking about trying to program in sdl
[09:38] <BlueEagle> mrchicago> im having trouble with kseti
[09:38] <mrchicago> and i was trying to get mythgame to work along with kseti
[09:38] <Lichte> if I compile a .deb source, is there a way to set the compiler flags ?
[09:38] <bob2> Lichte: edit debian/rules
[09:38] <bob2> Lichte: or the makefile
[09:38] <mrchicago> what about transcode
[09:38] <bob2> Lichte: it depends.  what option would you want to change?
[09:38] <Lichte> bob2: ok
[09:39] <Skid> anyone able to lend me a hand with GPG?
[09:39] <mrchicago> any idea where i can find it as a repository for ubuntu
[09:39] <Lichte> bob2: I'm on a Via C3 processor
[09:39] <Skid> bit of a complex situation, so :)
[09:39] <goliath_> Hello, does somebody know, is there mc binaries, which can work with UTF-8 ?
[09:39] <bob2> Skid: bes to just ask your question
[09:39] <Lichte> bob2: I'd like to change -mmmx and -m3dnow and -march=c3
[09:39] <bob2> mrchicago: it's in breezy.  if you're using hoary, you can wait a couple of weeks.
[09:39] <BlueEagle> mrchicago: is kseti a kde front end for seti@home (ie. not tkseti)
[09:39] <bob2> Lichte: does that really help a noticable amount?
[09:39] <bob2> Lichte: you'll want to look at pentium-builder, too
[09:40] <Lichte> bob2: quite, yes
[09:40] <mrchicago> yes
[09:40] <Lichte> ok
[09:40] <Lichte> thanks
[09:40] <mrchicago> ok
[09:40] <mrchicago> i guess ill have to wait then
[09:40] <mrchicago> for the new iso to come out
[09:40] <Skid> well, I generated two GPG keys by mistake with the same email address, lets say key id 1, and 2.  I then canceled key id 1, (revoked) and sent the key back to the server, so I have #2 wokring now.  I went to add another email address to my key, and it added it to the #1 key id. (as per --list-keys) so how can I remove that from that id, and put it on the #2, and then get rid of all traces off the harddrive of key #1
[09:41] <bob2> Skid: removing key #1 from your hard drive is a bad idea
[09:41] <goliath_> does somebody know, is there mc binaries, which can work with UTF-8 ? I've tried mc from Debian Sarge, and it doesn't :(
[09:42] <bob2> Skid: the public bit will never leave the keyservers, and you'll just have no access to it
[09:42] <Skid> bob2: but if I add any other stuff to key #1, it'll add to it
[09:42] <Skid> er
[09:42] <Skid> #2
[09:42] <bob2> Skid: ?
[09:42] <Skid> like i wanted to add my uni email address to my key
[09:42] <bob2> Skid: gpg --edit-key <key2id>
[09:42] <Skid> hmm
[09:43] <Ce^ITS> im sorry
[09:43] <ekimus> hi, i'm searching for an application that keeps track of the time i spend on a project (don't wanna set up something in OOo - no time) any hints packages like these? (would be perfect if it has been ported to windows already)
[09:44] <bob2> ekimus: gtimelog
[09:44] <mort> it's called "a wife" she will remind you every day how many hours you spend on your project instead with her ;)
[09:45] <heatxsink> has anyone else had problems with a PC-Card to CF Card reader?
[09:45] <Erron> hey bob I used /usr and compiled it static but when ldd php it says it's looking for the libjpeg in /usr still.. so if someone doesnt have it installed will it still work
[09:45] <ekimus> mort: yes but the filtering options with "wife" aren't that good, "it" only remembers whenever she was bored and not all the statistics...
[09:46] <Erron> also i got the stuff to run on other version of fc/rh but on ubuntu it said libidn lib shared prob that doesnt come with ubuntu?
[09:46] <bob2> Erron: nope
[09:46] <bob2> Erron: remember you're basically doomed, since static binaries don't really exist on linux anymore
[09:47] <bob2> Erron: I'd try asking on #php for advice on how to compile it
[09:47] <loststryk> how can i get ubuntu to recompile gftp with openssl ?
[09:47] <Erron> yea I've been doin that for past 2 weeks :P
[09:47] <bob2> the simplest solution is for people to not bother using ftp/ssl
[09:47] <Ce^ITS> :p
[09:47] <bob2> use rsync or sftp like jeebus intended
[09:47] <loststryk> yeah but some ftp daemons like drftpd require auth tls...
[09:48] <bob2> wow, that's really useless
[09:48] <loststryk> i dont really want to go back to windows....
[09:48] <Skid> nope, it still tries to edit the key that is revoked
[09:48] <bob2> if you insist on it, "apt-get source gftp", edit debian/rules, and "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -s"
[09:48] <bob2> Skid: show us the exact output in #flood
[09:48] <ek0> excuse my ignorance, i have just installed ubuntu for the first time ! and during the installation it doesn't even mention the root password ! is there a default root password for it ?
[09:49] <bob2> ek0: no, it explains exactly what the deal with root is
[09:49] <bob2> ek0: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:49] <ek0> thanks bob2
[09:51] <loststryk> cant find a source package for gftp
[09:52] <crimsun> apt-cache showsrc gftp
[09:52] <ek0> bob2, i'm just checking, but basically i have to do everything that needs "root" previlidges by sudo. right ?
[09:53] <bob2> ek0: that's the default, yes
[09:53] <loststryk> re-intalling widnows later today then by the looks of it :(
[09:53] <bob2> loststryk: perhaps you didn't uncomment the deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:56] <crimsun> ridiculous.
[09:56] <Myrtti> lovely
[09:57] <jc-denton> i still have problemes with the locales on breezy
[09:58] <jc-denton> if i set them to utf-8 gtk apps will run w/o bitching
[09:58] <jc-denton> but the output of some commands like pstree is fucked
[09:58] <crimsun> jc-denton, what if you use LANG=C pstree ?
[10:00] <linner> sorry
[10:00] <linner> :)
[10:00] <jc-denton> crimsun: there is no locale which is called C i think
[10:00] <jc-denton> same prob
[10:01] <crimsun> jc-denton, but does prefacing pstree with LANG=C resolve the issue?
[10:01] <kemik> crimsun:  what is LANG=C really ?
[10:02] <jc-denton> lol
[10:02] <kemik> got that setting on a unix box where i got account
[10:02] <jc-denton> when i run it as user it does
[10:02] <jc-denton> not as root
[10:02] <jc-denton> wtf
[10:02] <bob2> kemik: it means "screw this locale thing, pretend we're a unix in the US in 1975"
[10:02] <jc-denton> ah nope
[10:03] <jc-denton> when i run it inside screen it does not work
[10:03] <kemik> bob2:  .. oh.. "great" :)
[10:03] <jc-denton> but that's a screen issue i think
[10:03] <bob2> jc-denton: screen needs to be put in utf-8 mode
[10:03] <jc-denton> crimsun: so i just export LANG=C in my zshrc and stuff is fixed?
[10:03] <crimsun> jc-denton, see what bob2 stated
[10:03] <jc-denton> bob2: nope
[10:04] <jc-denton> LANG=C screen works here
[10:04] <crimsun> jc-denton, I only do LANG=C on a per-app basis
[10:04] <jc-denton> crimsun: why
[10:04] <jc-denton> i need something which works for every app
[10:04] <mrchicago> heh
[10:04] <stan|uni> While logging off, there are no checkboxes in the appearing window, so i have to guess where they are supposed to be. Anyone knows this problem?
[10:05] <bob2> LANG=C isn't a fix for anything
[10:05] <bob2> it's a temporary workaround
[10:05] <jc-denton> hrmm yes
[10:05] <jc-denton> i want a fix
[10:05] <jc-denton> :D
[10:05] <bob2> then figure out if it's pstree, your terminal's or screen's fault
[10:06] <jc-denton> if screen is started with LANG=C then it works
[10:06] <jc-denton> basically i switched my default locale to en_US-iso.something
[10:07] <jc-denton> then i started to get some error msgs from gtk apps
[10:07] <bob2> don't do that
[10:07] <crimsun> if an app won't work with UTF-8, it needs to be beaten into shape
[10:08] <jc-denton> crimsun: well
[10:08] <jc-denton> it's just like this
[10:08] <jc-denton> i can't switch to utf-8 if apps doesn't work
[10:09] <jc-denton> so when will it be fixed?
[10:10] <bob2> jc-denton: so
[10:10] <trigger_ph> hello...need help. i'm still having problems connecting to google talk via jabber.."server does not use supported authentication methods"...i'm on ubuntu, hoary release..gaim v.1.5.0
[10:10] <bob2> I'm using en_AU.UTF-8
[10:10] <bob2> and pstree works smashingly
[10:11] <bob2> even inside screen
[10:11] <nerdy2> i'm using en_US.UTF-8 and pstree works fine
[10:11] <jc-denton> with LANG=C?
[10:11] <jc-denton> lol
[10:11] <jc-denton> i have breezy
[10:11] <nerdy2> i'm on breezy
[10:11] <jc-denton> ok
[10:12] <bob2> me too
[10:12] <jc-denton> what does echo $LANG say
[10:12] <jc-denton> ?
[10:12] <bob2> jc-denton: are you using xterm?
[10:12] <nerdy2> en_US.UTF-8  [as i said before]  :)
[10:12] <jc-denton> nope aterm
[10:12] <Oetzi> hi
[10:12] <bob2> jc-denton: use xterm
[10:12] <jc-denton> ok it works on xterm
[10:12] <jc-denton> but not on aterm
[10:13] <Oetzi> bob2: using xterm is no solution for me
[10:13] <bob2> right
[10:13] <bob2> so aterm is crap
[10:13] <bob2> Oetzi: why?
[10:13] <jc-denton> no
[10:13] <bob2> yes
[10:13] <jc-denton> it worked on debian aterm
[10:13] <Oetzi> because there is the same error-message
[10:13] <crimsun> there are a bevy of terminal emulators that can handle UTF-8 and are a bit slimmer than xterm, jc-denton
[10:13] <bob2> jc-denton: with a utf-8 locale?
[10:14] <bob2> Oetzi: what error message?
[10:14] <n00bster> hello, i have mounted my drives, but i want them to show on desktop, how it's don?
[10:14] <jc-denton> not sure
[10:14] <jc-denton> but i never had this problem
[10:14] <mrchicago> will i be able to just update everything with the new iso or do i have to reinstall
[10:14] <Oetzi> and GTK-App: locale not supported by Xlib
[10:14] <bob2> jc-denton: there you go
[10:14] <twibbler> so a real load of updates for breezy todya ....
[10:14] <bob2> Oetzi: and the output of "locale" was...
[10:14] <trigger_ph> brb
[10:14] <bob2> mrchicago: of course you can updated
[10:14] <Oetzi> my locale is de_DE@euro
[10:15] <jc-denton> 10:12 < Oetzi> and GTK-App: locale not supported by Xlib
[10:15] <jc-denton> yes
[10:15] <jc-denton> if u take utf u will get rid of this error
[10:15] <n00bster> hello, i have mounted my drives, but i want them to show on desktop, how it's don?
[10:15] <bob2> Oetzi: there you go then
[10:15] <bob2> Oetzi: use a utf-8 locale
[10:15] <jc-denton> but u should be able to use non-utf stuff w/o strange errors too..
[10:16] <bob2> yes, but no one cares about non-C non-utf-8 locales anymore
[10:16] <Oetzi> i can't use utf-8 because of geting problems with my server-interactions
[10:16] <n00bster> need some assistance here.... :)
[10:16] <jc-denton> well there are no c locales
[10:16] <jc-denton> bob2: well i never had problemes with that iso locales
[10:17] <jc-denton> so why should i care about utf
[10:17] <Oetzi> so I'm wrking with POSIX C for now
[10:17] <Oetzi> and wait for a bugfix
[10:17] <bob2> n00bster: looks like no one knows
[10:18] <bob2> n00bster: try asking on the mailing list, perhaps
[10:18] <Myrtti> hm
[10:18] <n00bster> :)
[10:18] <jc-denton> Oetzi: so u just set LANG=C
[10:18] <linner> s
[10:18] <Nermal> n00bster: what was the question ?
[10:18] <n00bster> i have mounted my drives, but i want them to show on desktop, how it's don?
[10:18] <Nermal> use gconf-editor ?
[10:18] <Jowi> hi all
[10:19] <Oetzi> yes i did it yesterday and it works fine for know
[10:19] <Nermal> n00bster: just open the Computer place and drag the drive to the desktop
[10:19] <Oetzi> but as bob2 said it is only a temporary solution
[10:19] <atha> n00bster: gconf-editor - apps - nautilus - desktop - volumes visible
[10:20] <n00bster> hm..  whare can i find gconf?
[10:20] <Nermal> in the gnome menu
[10:21] <Oetzi> mmh is there no xlock on breezy?
[10:21] <n00bster> i use breeze, and do not have a naulituls menuw
[10:21] <Nermal> applications -> system
[10:21] <atha> applications - system tools - configuration editor
[10:21] <n00bster> maybe - configuration editor ?
[10:22] <atha> or simply pressing alt-f2 and running gconf-editor
[10:22] <atha> whatever you prefer
[10:23] <n00bster> hm... volumes_visible - is on !
[10:24] <Nermal> n00bster: click / drag from nautilus
[10:24] <crimsun> ugh
[10:24] <Nermal> as suggested in the first place
[10:25] <n00bster> from the path taht thay are mounted ?
[10:25] <jc-denton> humm
[10:25] <jc-denton> well thx4info anyway
[10:25] <jc-denton> but i would really be happy if this bug would be fixed soon
[10:26] <bob2> bah
[10:26] <n00bster> what do i need to click&drag from nautilus ?
[10:28] <n00bster> can you tell me what i need do drag from nautilus ?
[10:28] <n00bster> can you tell me what i need do drag from nautilus ?
[10:29] <ompaul> n00bster, we say you the first time - there are 484 people in the channel please wait for a reply :)
[10:29] <bob2> I'm not sure that asking over and over will help
[10:29] <ompaul> s/say/saw/
[10:29] <bob2> presumably you should drage the icon for the drive
[10:29] <n00bster> ok, sry.
[10:29] <Nermal> n00bster: *sigh*
[10:30] <bzimage> hello all
[10:30] <bzimage> :)
[10:31] <Nermal> lo bzimage :)
[10:31] <max_> hallo zusammen, guten morgen
[10:31] <volvoguy> my friends, i have good news that i never could have predicted. i had almost given up on my one 250Gb ext3 partitioned drive with bad blocks and superblock, but i tried someone's suggestion here of "Phoneix Linux" recovery software and the dang thing read every single byte of data off the drive. i was blown away.
[10:31] <bzimage> volvoguy, good!
[10:31] <bzimage> :)
[10:32] <Nermal> volvoguy: are you in nigeria ? :)
[10:32] <volvoguy> i'm happy. i just had to share. :-)
[10:32] <volvoguy> Nermal, no... detroit, michigan, usa.
[10:32] <ompaul> Nermal, for the 419th time no he is not
[10:32] <Nermal> :)
[10:33] <n00bster> ok, i mange to fix this on myself :)
[10:33] <n00bster> managed*
[10:34] <Nermal> you could have just used our advice :)
[10:34] <ompaul> n00bster, great
[10:36] <n00bster> it's quite satisfying to finally figure yore way in Linux (the little that i can) ')
[10:39] <hutgyrr> im after coming in this morning and my ubuntu box is chugging away that I cant do anything with it. The hard disk activity is through the roof. However, I just left it last night burning a DVD and theres just a terminal windows open
[10:39] <hutgyrr> how can I troubleshoot it?
[10:42] <johnnybezak> hey guys
[10:43] <Jowi> hutgyrr, run "top" in that terminal to see what is happening....
[10:44] <Jowi> hutgyrr, you will mostly see CPU activity but generally they are connected
[10:46] <hutgyrr> nautilus is the most resource heavy, it appears to be using 90% of mem but only 3% of CPU
[10:46] <dmacdonald111> Hi all.
[10:47] <ompaul> hutgyrr, is it doing anything else other than IRC at the moment?
[10:47] <hutgyrr> im not IRC'ing from this box
[10:47] <ompaul> hutgyrr, is it doing anything useful at the moment?
[10:47] <dmacdonald111> I've found that I need to use bcmwl5 with ndiswrapper to get my wireless network working, but I am unable to find the files anywhere. Does anyone have any suggestions where I can get it from?
[10:48] <Skid> http://nicolas.bonifas.free.fr/inspiron/bcmwl5.inf
[10:48] <Jowi> hutgyrr, there are also tools for monitoring SMART enabled harddisks. a quick google search will give you this: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6983
[10:49] <dmacdonald111> Thank you Skid. I am guessing that I have to compile this first before using it?
[10:50] <Jowi> hutgyrr, maybe your system is clearing the cache after that 6Gb dvd
[10:50] <Skid> no, its an inf file, I think you point ndiswrapper towards it (chek the wiki for broadcom, im sure i saw it there - or search the forums..)
[10:51] <hutgyrr> well that DVD was burned over 12hours ago and its doing nothing useful
[10:52] <Jowi> hutgyrr, yeah that sounds abit suspicious :)
[10:53] <cerius> hi
[10:53] <n00bster> question:  I'm trying to make new DIR, or to change permissions on my HDA from the interface
[10:53] <n00bster> but this options are grayed out. allthow i have assigned my user to root group in users & groups menu. (and rebooted). how can i fix this ?
[10:53] <cerius> wat ist the german ubuntu room name?
[10:54] <cafuego_> !de
[10:54] <ubotu> methinks de is #ubuntu-de bitte.
[10:54] <Jowi> cerius, ubuntu-de
[10:54] <cafuego_> Dort macht man alles auf Deutsch.
[10:55] <cerius> ok danke
[10:55] <cafuego_> Und das finder die Hollnder hier ganz ekelhaft.
[10:57] <talios> 'lo crimsun
[10:57] <crimsun> 'lo mark
[10:57] <Chameleon22> i am getting an error message from xine: source seems to be encrypted when i try to play a dvd i bought and it plays fine in a normal dvd player... ideas?
[10:57] <johnnybezak> hey guys I'm thinking of backing up my home dir to my server how often do you think would be a sensible idea? what should i use rsync?
[10:58] <cafuego_> Chameleon22: you need libdvdcss2. Install libdvdread3 and check /us/share/doc/libdvdread3/exampels. There should be a shell script, run that using sudo.,
[10:58] <Jowi> n00bster, the permissions for the drives that get mounted at boot is decided in the file /etc/fstab. to make a long story short, if you want to be able to write to that disk - you will need to edit this file. easiest way to help is if you post /etc/fstab to the pastebin
[10:58] <Jowi> ubotu, tell n00bster about pastebin
[10:58] <Chameleon22> johnnybezak, how often does your data change lo, rsync over ssh is a very nice way yes
[10:58] <hutgyrr> ok, I killed nautilus and im back to normal again
[10:58] <Chameleon22> cafuego, thank you, will try
[10:59] <wezzer> does anyone know when openoffice 2.0 will be released as a non-beta?
[10:59] <johnnybezak> Chameleon22: not *lots* just usual music/pictures etc. how do I do the rsync over ssh?\
[10:59] <Jowi> :)
[10:59] <ph8> konqueror's SIGSEV'ing on breezy when i try to start it
[10:59] <ph8> how would i go about reinstalling it? i can't deselect it as that would remove kdebase as well..?
[11:00] <crimsun> ph8: did you dist-upgrade from hoary? If so, have you rebooted since?
[11:00] <ph8> yes and yes
[11:00] <hutgyrr> what could nautilus possibly have been doing though?
[11:00] <crimsun> ph8: someone in #kubuntu may know more
[11:00] <ph8> sorry thought i was there :p
[11:01] <crimsun> you are, I just rejoined
[11:01] <Jowi> hutgyrr, really good question. i stopped using it. installed rox-filer instead. lacking some features, sure, but it is fast and is not doing stuff in the background
[11:01] <crimsun> apologies if you've already asked
[11:01] <ph8> thought i was talking on there :p
[11:01] <ph8> in the meantime, how can i access //HUB/ on my windows network
[11:02] <hutgyrr> mount -t smbfs //HUB/Share -o username=user,password=pass
[11:03] <ph8> ty
[11:03] <ph8> where will that mount it to though?
[11:03] <ninjafury> hi, first time running linux and need some help. I've installed breezy (AMD 64) on my pc, and after its set up, xorg wont set up. Now its been auto disabled, and all i get is "assuming drive cache:write through" being constantly printed to my screen... can anyone help?
[11:03] <hutgyrr> oh yeah actually after //HUB/share /mnt/windowsshares
[11:04] <ph8> hmm
[11:04] <ph8> errors
[11:04] <hutgyrr> have you smbfs installed
[11:04] <ph8> heh no, just 'samba'
[11:05] <ph8> i specified an invalid share name?
[11:05] <ninjafury> is the "assuming drive cache" msg an error, or has it just frozen up?
[11:05] <ph8> mount -t smbfs //HUB/ /mnt/HUB
[11:05] <hutgyrr> whats the error
[11:05] <concept10> !xorg
[11:05] <ubotu> it has been said that xorg is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:05] <Chameleon22> johnnybezak, you there ?
[11:06] <concept10> ninjafury, try to do that
[11:06] <ninjafury> i've tried the xorg config, but it always just fails
[11:06] <Chameleon22> pm me if you still interested i am kind of all over the place so easier to chat in private so i can keep track better
[11:06] <concept10> ninjafury, have you tried to reconfigure?
[11:06] <reter> having printer problems
[11:06] <concept10> with different settings?
[11:07] <ninjafury> yeah i have, i manually put in my monitor info (sync rates and all that) but it still wont start X