[13:33] <trijntje> bekks: then why the hell have I been spending 30 minutes trying to figure out what to do whith the info on that kernel.org page?
[13:33] <cfhowlett> mvk1, sounds just like "Trust us, we're the gov't and we're here to help you."
[13:33] <cortexA9> so i need a similiar wubi tool..
[13:33] <trijntje> bekks: linux-firmware is already installed
[13:33] <cortexA9> *similar
[13:34] <cortexA9> that works
[13:34] <cortexA9> with windows 7
[13:34] <cfhowlett> cortexA9, stop.  you  ARE aware that wubi is, by design, a TESTING platform and NOT a long-term installation method, right?  and since it's running under windows, when windows breaks your wubi, there IS no fix.
[13:34] <bekks> trijntje: Then answer my previous questions, like pastebin dmesg finally, etc.
[13:35] <cortexA9> yea cfhowlett
[13:35] <cortexA9> i need an alternative
[13:35] <uBUXUBu> ive used wubi...works nice for awhile (and i mean that literally)
[13:35] <uBUXUBu> after awhile...boot issue tend to crop up
[13:35] <cfhowlett> cortexA9, 2 alternatives.  A: dual boot.  B: virtualbox inside windows, put ubuntu in the Vbox
[13:35] <trijntje> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6623235/
[13:37] <uBUXUBu> my fav way is to install 2 HD's....one with windows one with ubuntu
[13:37] <uBUXUBu> vboxes run slow with bad graphics
[13:38] <bekks> trijntje: And whats the output of "sudo ifconfig -a" and "sudo lsusb"?
[13:38] <trijntje> bekks: http://pastebin.com/kiimJQZF
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> uBUXUBu  you dislike *everything* about ubuntu, i wonder why you stick to it
[13:39] <cortexA9> i have windows 7.
[13:39] <uBUXUBu> no i love ubuntu MonkeyDust
[13:39] <cortexA9> right now
[13:39] <uBUXUBu> i just get mad when stuff doesnt work right or read out correctly
[13:39] <cortexA9> but i dont know if i can boot with grub..
[13:40] <cortexA9> because i had problems..
[13:40] <kibibyte> hi
[13:40] <kibibyte> i have no sound after todays upgrade
[13:40] <jdm> what file system is the default now?
[13:40] <kibibyte> [    7.955015] snd_hda_codec_hdmi: Unknown symbol snd_hda_get_connections (err -22)
[13:40] <jdm> i use to use ReiserFS before he murdered his family
[13:40] <kibibyte> what to do /
[13:40] <kibibyte> ?
[13:40] <bekks> trijntje: And whats the output of "sudo lsmod"?
[13:41] <trijntje> bekks: http://pastebin.com/9vVwDihc
[13:42] <bekks> trijntje: Well,for using the driver, you should modprobe it.
[13:43] <cortexA9> i need a confirm if i can use wubi with windows 7..
[13:43] <cortexA9> or not
[13:45] <cfhowlett> cortexA9, wubi "works" with win7
[13:45] <trijntje> bekks: I ran sudo modprobe brcmfmac, dmesg shows: [ 2031.389423] usbcore: registered new interface driver brcmfmac
[13:45] <trijntje> but still no wireless
[13:45] <uBUXUBu> wubi works good with w7, always install w7 1st...but afterawhile wubi gets screwed up...works good fora a few weeks sometimes a few months
[13:46] <uBUXUBu> nice thing about wubi is it unistall perfectly and completey in w7...even cleans out the registry and files system all with its own uninstaller
[13:46] <cfhowlett> cortexA9, you have your reasons for wubi, but be aware that support for same has already been cut back and the project itself is on life support
[13:48] <bekks> trijntje: pastebin dmesg again, along with ifconfig
[13:49] <cortexA9> what ubuntu version you recommend ?
[13:49] <linux|newb> dell inspiron 10 mini, ubuntu 12.04 - want to rotate screen and option is present in Displays but the changes won't stick... any ideas?
[13:49] <bekks> cortexA9: 12.04
[13:49] <trijntje> bekks: dmesg: http://pastebin.com/iA5qGE6L
[13:49] <trijntje> ifconfig: http://pastebin.com/cbsUCV6Y
[13:51] <cortexA9> bekks: if i want to upgrade 12.04 can i after ?
[13:51] <aaronmehar> im trying to use EOF to put data into file but the file doesnt exist - I thought I could put "touch /home/myfile;" then "cat /home/myfile <<EOF"
[13:51] <aaronmehar> but that creates the file but doesnt EOF the data
[13:51] <xubuntu287> Hi, can anyone help me to install radeon hd drivers in my notebook?
[13:52] <xubuntu287> Notebook: hp g62 GPU: radeon hd 5470 / intel graphic
[13:52] <cortexA9> i mean if i want to upgrade 12.04 to 12.10 or 13.04..
[13:52] <xubuntu287> I've tried it in many ways but just doesn't work
[13:52] <uBUXUBu> hah i just did that xubuntu287
[13:52] <cortexA9> is it possible ?
[13:52] <uBUXUBu> mine is 5570 radeon
[13:53] <xubuntu287> How?
[13:53] <bekks> cortexA9: you can - but waiting for 14.04 and then updating directly 12.04 -> 14.04 is more sensible
[13:53] <uBUXUBu> by using the built in proprietary driver search in ubuntu
[13:53] <denniz123456> hello
[13:53] <uBUXUBu> but it was confusing cuz it say in terminal i have the 5570 but in system says unknown
[13:54] <uBUXUBu> but it seems to be working
[13:54] <uBUXUBu> my videos and game runs well
[13:54] <xubuntu287> Yeah I already did that but the computer get heated a lot
[13:54] <cfhowlett> denniz123456, greetings
[13:54] <xubuntu287> so I assumed that it was not working
[13:55] <uBUXUBu> did it offer 2 choices xubuntu287 ?
[13:55] <uBUXUBu> i tried the experimantal driver but ended up using the other driver
[13:55] <xubuntu287> I can't remember
[13:55] <uBUXUBu> run it again
[13:55] <xubuntu287> ok thanks
[13:55] <cortexA9> ok thanks bekks
[13:56] <xubuntu287> i'll come back if I can't solve it
[13:56] <uBUXUBu> odd thing is it runs the same on any of them for me cant tell the difference
[13:56] <Pacy> is Physicist on this channel?
[13:57] <uBUXUBu> no pacy
[13:57] <Pici> Pacy: This is for Ubuntu support, try ##physics
[13:57] <uBUXUBu> by typing phy and hitting tab u will see he is not
[13:58] <Pacy> no Pici the physicist was a NickNAME OF A guy on this channel
[13:58] <Pici> Pacy: oh.
[13:58] <Pacy> Pici, and i think he changed the nick
[13:59] <shaz> Hi
[14:00] <shaz> Any1 here?
[14:00] <Pacy> hi sha
[14:00] <shaz> I hav ubuntu 13.10
[14:00] <shaz> Nd sumhow its wifi nd audio got disabled
[14:01] <Pacy> hi shaz what message is it announcing?
[14:01] <shaz> For audio i tried pulse-audio restart. Dat shows no output
[14:01] <shaz> Nd for wifi i tried rfkill unblock all
[14:01] <shaz> No output
[14:02] <Pacy> shaz actual no output is expected
[14:02] <shaz> So??
[14:02] <Pacy> shaz, but it would be fixed after running the command
[14:03] <Pacy> shaz, Is it written that wireless disabled by hardware switch?
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> what's "nd"?
[14:05] <shaz> Its showing ethernet network disconnected, its a disabled selection
[14:06] <shaz> Possibly, bcoz the wifi indicator light is also off
[14:07] <Pacy> shaz, don't you have a switch that might be switched off?
[14:08] <trijntje> bekks: and?
[14:08] <njsg> is there some way to get other icon themes for libreoffice (especially the old default theme?)
[14:08] <shaz> I tried switching it on, wifi indicator light doesnt glow. It works fine in windows though
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> njsg  better try #libreoffice, i guess
[14:09] <njsg> MonkeyDust: I am not sure, I remember libreoffice at home (other distro) does have a high contrast theme, but I don't see it here (ubuntu), so I wonder if there's some package for that in ubuntu
[14:10] <njsg> MonkeyDust: in fact there are several theme packages in ubuntu, so this is definitely an ubuntu thing
[14:10] <njsg> MonkeyDust: yes, # apt-get install libreoffice-style-galaxy
[14:10] <njsg> and now I have the theme I was looking for
[14:11] <iivvoo> I'm in a rather minimal ubuntu 12.04 system (a docker image actually). locale is being a pain, as always but nothing seems to resolve it. No matter what locale-gen, dpkg-reconfigure locales, apt-get install langauge-base-en I do, I keep getting "warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_GB.utf8)"
[14:11]  * njsg wonders, on second thought, if he shouldn't have just searched for it before bugging the channel :-P
[14:11] <iivvoo> (did you know postgresql fails to install properly if your locale is messed up?)
[14:11] <njsg> iivvoo: are you setting the locale for the user where you get the error?
[14:12] <njsg> iivvoo: can you pastebin the output of "locale -a"?
[14:12] <njsg> iivvoo: and which locale do you *want* to be enabled?
[14:12] <iivvoo> njsg: en_GB would be fine
[14:12] <iivvoo> even en_US fails
[14:12] <shaz> Pacy??? U there?
[14:13] <njsg> iivvoo: please show the "locale -a"
[14:13] <njsg> shaz: no
[14:13] <iivvoo> njsg http://paste.ubuntu.com/6623416/
[14:14] <ltgr> hi
[14:14] <njsg> iivvoo: and the output of "locale" too, if it is not too much trouble?
[14:15] <koell> Is it a good idea to have different paritions on a NAS?
[14:15] <iivvoo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6623426/
[14:18] <trijntje> bekks: what should I do next to get my wifi to work?
[14:18] <njsg> iivvoo: if you just run locale, do you see any similar error message?
[14:18] <njsg> iivvoo: it should show error messages if the current locale can't be applied
[14:19] <iivvoo> no, I can't quite explain when I get the error and when not
[14:19] <njsg> iivvoo: which tool gives you the error?
[14:19] <iivvoo> perhaps my locale is actually setup properly right now but postgresql still fails to install
[14:19] <iivvoo> trying again now
[14:19] <njsg> iivvoo: at first sight, this seems to be some other problem, either a problem in other software that can't find the locale, or some other unlreated error
[14:21] <njsg> iivvoo: and make sure you login from a login screen after changing environment variables (such as the ones that control the locale), otherwise programs will be running with the old variables
[14:21] <njsg> iivvoo: if you're unsure about that, try rebooting if you didn't yet
[14:26] <guille> Hola. Como puedo cambiar el tamaño del puntero ?  tengo el 12.04 LTS
[14:26] <DJones> !es | guille
[14:26] <njsg> guille: #ubuntu-es
[14:27] <xubuntu> hi
[14:27] <Guest26570> trying xubuntu
[14:27] <Guest26570> bye
[14:28] <guille> join #ubuntu-es
[14:28] <guille> gracias
[14:29] <AndyBotwin> Ìû
[14:33] <trijntje> bekks: how can I use my wifi dongle with ubuntu? I've followed all steps you told me but still I have no internet
[14:37] <andyfied> okay chaps, I got an unexpected bus interupt while running irssi through screen which kicked me out
[14:37] <andyfied> tried to load screen again and got a segfault. what do i need to look at? i got no idea what logs to check
[14:38] <Pacy> Hello do anyone know how to send a broadcast sms?
[14:42] <zykotick9> andyfied: start with "dmesg"
[14:43] <andyfied> ta
[14:44] <eagle_> pyhon guru?
[14:45] <zykotick9> eagle_: you might want to try alis for a python channel ("/msg ubottu alis" for details)
[14:45] <eagle_> Thanks
[14:46] <Pici> eagle_: the channel is #python, and you need to be registered/identified to join
[14:46] <paule32> hello
[14:46] <Pici> !register > eagle_
[14:46] <malev> hello there! How can I run a command line program as a daemon with a pid file?
[14:47] <paule32> how can i compile the svgalib helper_module?
[14:47] <paule32> getting error:  http://codepad.org/W0kPEHpB
[14:47] <andyfied> hmm, that's only since last boot
[14:47] <andyfied> and ii had to reboot
[14:47] <andyfied> after reseating the ram
[14:48] <davidbattlefield> beasty, can you give some links from which i can get tutorials about armitage?
[14:48] <xubuntu826> hi, I just came here a while ago asking for help with my graphics card driver ATI Mobility 5470 in my HP G62 Notebook
[14:48] <xubuntu826> i just installed the prop driver
[14:48] <xubuntu826> and now i have a command line on boot
[14:49] <xubuntu826> asking for my login
[14:49] <xubuntu826> i log in, and I don't know that else to to do can someone help me pls?
[14:49] <xubuntu826> what*
[14:49] <BluesKaj_> xubuntu826, ok , then update and upgrade , then reboot
[14:50] <davidbattlefield> andyfied, can u give some links from which i can get tutorials about armitage?
[14:50] <xubuntu826> BluesKaj_, i'll try thanks
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> xubuntu826  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-getupgrade;sudo init 6     <-- paste this line in a terminal
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> xubuntu826  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade;sudo init 6     <-- paste this line in a terminal
[14:51] <xubuntu826> i'll try MonkeyDust, thanks
[14:52] <xubuntu826> ok, i updated, upgraded, did the init 6 line.... and i'm back on the blackscreen asking for my login
[14:53] <xubuntu826> i rebooted btw
[14:53] <BluesKaj_> MonkeyDust, what's with sudo init 6?
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj_  it's reboot
[14:53] <zykotick9> BluesKaj_: i was wondering the same thing
[14:54] <BluesKaj_> sudo reboot works too :)
[14:54] <xubuntu826> sudo init 6 just rebooted my pc
[14:54] <andyfied> davidbattlefield: i have no clue what armitage is. have you tried google.com?
[14:54] <zykotick9> xubuntu826: ;) we know what it does, it's just an "odd" suggestion
[14:55] <Zenger> Hi guys, I was attempting to install and configure postfix and somewhere along the way I messed up. Now I can't connect to my ssh :(. It keeps saying "Connection refused". I googled and found that I might have forgotten to configure openssh and now I'm locked out of my server :(
[14:55] <Zenger> Is there a way to recover ?
[14:56] <xubuntu826> ok, what else can I do?
[14:56] <davidbattlefield> Andyfied, yeah , i have done ma best. if you know someone who knows this, plz tell me.
[14:56] <andyfied> i'm going to google armitage, i really don't know what it is
[14:57] <davidbattlefield> andyfied, that might help me
[14:58] <andyfied> cyber attack management suite? i wouldn't know where to begin with that. i having trouble finding /var/log/messages
[14:59] <davidbattlefield> andyfied, yeah
[15:00] <makara> apparently Dropbox uses HTTPS, but when I etherape and wireshark, all I see it HTTP ??
[15:06] <startx> any one use aircrack ?
[15:08] <startx> hey
[15:08] <Zenger> I'm back with another question, I found a virtual console on my VPS provider and I'm able to connect my server. I still cant ssh to it. Keeps saying connection refused.
[15:08] <startx> any one use aircrack ?
[15:09] <Zenger> I tried reinstalling openssh-client/server
[15:09] <somsip> !anyone | startx
[15:09] <zykotick9> startx: it's not supported in #ubuntu try #aircrack-ng channel
[15:09] <zykotick9> somsip: see above
[15:09] <bekks> Zenger: Check wether ssh is running, wether a firewall is active, and which port ssh is listening to.
[15:09] <somsip> zykotick9: fair enough
[15:09] <startx> ok
[15:09] <pluto> ciao
[15:10] <Zenger> bekks: ps aux shows that ssh and sshd are running
[15:10] <startx> how to install aircrack-ng channel
[15:10] <startx> ?
[15:10] <bekks> Zenger: ssh is just the client.
[15:10] <zykotick9> startx: "/join #aircrack-ng" in your irc clinet
[15:10] <Zenger> bekks: i messed with this server so much I'm not even sure what to call a firewall :)
[15:10] <Zenger> bekks: how would one search for a firewall ?
[15:10] <bekks> Zenger: Look for iptables, most likely.
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> Zenger  there's ufw (easy) and fwbuilder (advanced)
[15:12] <Zenger> I'm looking at my Ip tables and I see a lot of reference to ufw
[15:12] <Zenger> is it safe to just remove it ?
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> Zenger  sudo ufw disable is enough
[15:13] <Zenger> MonkeyDust: should I reboot my machine ?
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> Zenger  to achieve what, exactly?
[15:13] <startx> how to install aircrack-ng channel ?
[15:14] <Zenger> MonkeyDust: ah I see. but no effect what so ever still
[15:14] <Zenger> I guess I need to somehow regenerate my ip tables or privs or something
[15:16] <Zenger> good news
[15:16] <Zenger> sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT
[15:16] <Zenger> did the trick, unfortunatelly for port 22 which I actually tried to hide
[15:17] <llutz> Zenger: use portnumbers not service-names if you run services on non-default ports
[15:18] <Zenger> llutz: sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 95 -j ACCEPT should do the trick , assuming I'm going to use the 95 port ?
[15:18] <llutz> yep Zenger
[15:18] <Zenger> llutz: thank you.
[15:19] <llutz> Zenger: if you use service-names like "ssh" it takes default ports from /etc/services
[15:19] <startx> aircrack is only for backtrack ?
[15:19] <Someus> Hello how can i make graphics card perform better?
[15:20] <Romance> in my vps, there are both upstart and systemd daemon running, which one is safe to kill/stop ?
[15:20] <andyfied> gah
[15:20] <Zenger> llutz: that didn't work
[15:20] <trijntje> I just upgraded to 13.10, and my broadcom BCM43235 wifi dongle that used to work with ndiswrapper stopped working. How can I get wifi back
[15:21] <andyfied> ssh fell over when i tried to open syslog
[15:21] <ObrienDave> !broadcom | trijntje
[15:21] <Someus> could not find required opengl entry point 'glColorMaskIndexedEXT'! - how can i fix this?
[15:21] <trijntje> Someus: did you install the drivers for your card?
[15:22] <bean__> Romance: I'd leave both -- they're likely both being used.
[15:22] <trijntje> ObrienDave: I tried that, bekks linked me to it but I didn't get it to work
[15:23] <Someus> trijntje yes!
[15:23] <Someus> I have ATI X1200
[15:23] <Someus> I have opensource driver
[15:24] <llutz> !info aircrack-ng | startx   install it, read documentation, don't ask here again, people won't give support.
[15:24] <sdouble> my sound is only working with mpd + sonata for my user account.  VLC/mplayer/chromium/firefox play no sound unless I run them as root.  mpd is running under my user and I've confirmed that my user is part of the audio and pulse-access groups.  It worked last week, suddenly stopped.
[15:25] <gizero> Hi. I've removed unity-lens-music and unity-lens-video, but I still have icons for them at the bottom of the Dash (yes, I've logged out/in). How can I remove those lenses completely?
[15:25] <Someus> Im trying to run Day of Defeat: Source on Xubuntu. I have ATI X1200 graphics card Gallum 0.4 on ATI OpenGL driver
[15:26] <Someus> but i recieve that error
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> Someus  is that a game?
[15:26] <GeekDude> I'm trying to cross compile a program for ARM. In the past, I've used "RANLIB=/usr/bin/ranlib && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/arm-linux-gcc --host=arm-linux", but this program requires me to use CMake. I can't for the life of me figure out hwo to do this in CMake
[15:26] <Someus> Yes Steam game
[15:26] <Someus> Half Life 2 mod
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> GeekDude  there's also #ubuntu-arm
[15:27] <Someus> Like Sounter strike: Source
[15:27] <GeekDude> MonkeyDust: Would that be applicable if the host system is x86?
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> GeekDude  not sure, i'm not familiar with arm, it was just a tip
[15:29] <startx> aircrack is only for backtrack ?
[15:30] <sdouble> my sound is only working with mpd + sonata for my user account.  VLC/mplayer/chromium/firefox play no sound unless I run them as root.  mpd is running under my user and I've confirmed that my user is part of the audio and pulse-access groups.  any ideas on what else I can check?
[15:30] <startx> can any body tell me .aircrack is for ubuntu or not ?
[15:31] <trijntje> startx: just search in the software center
[15:31] <zykotick9> startx: it's not an ubuntu package - ask in #aircrack-ng
[15:31] <zykotick9> trijntje: waste of time...
[15:32] <startx> I am not getting :(
[15:32] <llutz> !info aircrack-ng | startx   install it, read documentation, don't ask here again, people won't give support.
[15:32] <trijntje> Apt-get gives an error while installing ndiswrapper on 13.10, how can I fix this? http://pastebin.com/Gc3NeBvq
[15:32] <zykotick9> llutz: oh!  trijntje sorry, my bad.
[15:33] <startx> ubuttu:ok
[15:33] <llutz> zykotick9: its not in precise, but other versions
[15:33] <llutz> startx: for further info http://www.aircrack-ng.org/documentation.html
[15:39] <trijntje> I just upgraded to 13.10, and my broadcom BCM43235 wifi dongle that used to work with ndiswrapper stopped working. How can I get wifi back?
[15:40] <me-1> hi...I cant update plz help http://paste.ubuntu.com/6623814/
[15:41] <bekks> me-1: of courde you can update.
[15:41] <bekks> me-1: you just get a warning.
[15:41] <trijntje> me-1: looks like problems with your mirror server, go into software & updates and change to the main server
[15:42] <me-1> trijntje,  I was thinking the same
[15:43] <me-1> trijntje,  I am using Lubuntu how can I do that with it..?
[15:43] <compdoc> me-1, you can try this first:   sudo apt-get clean
[15:43] <trijntje> me-1: I'm not sure, maybe via the software center -> properties?
[15:44] <XATRIX> How can i change a current local mirror for ?
[15:45] <XATRIX> Is there any dpkg-reconfigure mirror ?
[15:45] <XATRIX> I chose US mirror by mistake
[15:45] <Dudytz> hi all. I have a gpg and I don't remember the correct passphrase, but I remember the words used, is there a tool to combine several words with numbers to try to recovery the passphrase?
[15:46] <linux|newb> anyone known if the old dell 10mini v supports screen rotation?
[15:46] <linux|newb> know*
[15:50] <dufa> Dudytz: Jhon the Ripper is able to attempt at cracking gpg secret key passwords
[15:51] <trijntje> XATRIX: you can use 'software & updates'
[15:52] <XATRIX> TriJetScud: no no, i need CLI
[15:53] <trijntje> XATRIX: you can edit /etc/sources.list
[15:54] <raub> XATRIX: I belive trijntje meant /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:55] <trijntje> raub: XATRIX, yeah, I meant /etc/apt/sources.list, sorry
[15:55] <raub> trijntje: you better not steal my title for worst typist this side of the Galaxy ;)
[15:56] <Tex_Nick> might be best to just encrypt a directory ?
[15:56] <knightshade> Hello
[15:56] <ObrienDave> raub, how about the other side of the galaxy? ;P
[15:56] <Tex_Nick> sorry wrong channel :(
[15:56] <adac> Are there known problems with vino and 12.04? screen frequently remains black when I connect to my buddy and vice versa.
[15:57] <raub> adac: logs might tel you something
[15:57] <raub> ObrienDave: Come on, I am not *that* bad ;)
[15:57] <ObrienDave> lol
[15:57] <adac> raub, whci log does hold the information for vino?
[15:59] <raub> adac:  if I don't know any better I would go with /var/log/syslog. But dark screen in vnc for me usually means the vnc server is not happy. At least that is when I connect to a Mac
[16:00] <hacker> hi yuvi
[16:00] <trijntje> Apt-get gives an error while installing ndiswrapper on 13.10, how can I fix this? http://pastebin.com/Gc3NeBvq
[16:02] <adac> raub kk thanks
[16:02] <raub> trijntje: it is telling you to read /var/lib/dkms/ndiswrapper/1.58/build/make.log for mor einfo. What does it say?
[16:03] <bazhang> trijntje, what about when trying to install ndisgtk
[16:03] <raub> adac: sometimes if you connect through command line it will spit some messages right there.
[16:03] <raub> adac: have you tried tightvnc or whatever it is called?
[16:04] <trijntje> raub: some weird C-error stuf, as far as I can tell http://pastebin.com/xyA0F8EK
[16:05] <trijntje> bazhang: ndisgtk installs without error
[16:07] <warddr> Hello, I unstalled ubuntu a couple of weeks ago, in english, and now the last 2 programs I installed are in German (eaglecad and fritzing), does anyone know why that is, and how to fix it?
[16:07] <adac> raub no not yet. HAve to wait until my buddy comes back online again
[16:07] <adac> got to go
[16:07] <adac> see you later guys
[16:10] <aetherius> meh
[16:13] <zecar> my ubuntu all of a sudden started taking screenshots with f12, even though I haven't rebooted or installed updates, and that is not a system hotkey
[16:13] <zecar> how do I fix it?
[16:14] <zecar> I need f12 for another app and I'm kind of dead in the water till this gets fixced
[16:16] <warddr> zecar: go to system settings --> keyboard --> shortcuts and take a look at the screenshot shortcuts
[16:16] <zecar> I just said it's not a configured shortcut
[16:17] <zecar> is there a way to disable screenshots? this is a highly disruptive bug in my instance because I need that hotkey
[16:17] <zecar> as much as I do use screenshots, it's more important that I can have use of my f12 key
[16:18] <rtyuiop> hi
[16:19] <rtyuiop> when you download the ubuntu 12.04 vbox image from vbox website ?
[16:19] <rtyuiop> what is the default ubuntu 12.04 password ?
[16:20] <zecar> figured out my f12 problems, I tried to assign screenshot to f12 key and it said that it was already assigned and then failed out
[16:20] <sdouble> any ideas why I can't hear any sound unless I'm using root/sudo?  user groups: adm cdrom sudo audio dip plugdev fuse lpadmin sambashare pulse-access
[16:20] <zecar> so there's clearly a bug in ubuntu where it's assigning new shortcuts that don't appear in the keyboard ui
[16:21] <raj1991raj> is there a way for using FB through command line. in ubuntu 12.10
[16:22] <flick> hi
[16:22] <raj1991raj> flick: hello
[16:22] <flick> hello
[16:25] <cortexA9> hello
[16:25] <cortexA9> i need to update quantal to saucy
[16:25] <cortexA9> is it possible ?
[16:25] <flick> hello
[16:26] <cortexA9> An upgrade from 'quantal' to 'saucy' is not supported with this tool.
[16:26] <cortexA9> i have this error
[16:26] <XATRIX> What is the current relese of 12.04.3 LTS, wheezy, quantal ?
[16:26] <cortexA9> how can i do ?
[16:26] <iivvoo> cortext upgrade to 13.4 first
[16:27] <cortexA9> i have 12.10 right now
[16:27] <iivvoo> yes, so 13.4 is next
[16:27] <pavel_> movies
[16:27] <cortexA9> iivvoo: what is the command ?
[16:28] <flick> hello
[16:28] <OerHeks> cortexA9, 12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10 , there is no direct upgrade
[16:28] <XATRIX> What is the current relese of 12.04.3 LTS, wheezy, quantal ?
[16:28] <cortexA9> OerHeks: really ? damn
[16:28] <bekks> XATRIX: precise.
[16:28] <kostkon> XATRIX, it's called precise pangolin
[16:29] <cortexA9> so it's not possible to upgrade ?
[16:29] <__monty__> Hi, I'm looking for a way to change the background of the 'lock screen'?
[16:30] <raub> cortexA9: you have to do each step as mentioned by OerHeks and iivvoo
[16:30] <cortexA9> if i change the repository ?
[16:30] <richiesx> anyone have a solution for choppy browser scrolling (chromium) on a desktop using LXDE?
[16:30] <raub> cortexA9: only when you do LTS is that you skip a few in-between releases
[16:31] <the_drow> Hi guys, I'm on ubuntu 13.10 which has libmemcached 1.0.8 as far as I understand. I'm using pylibmc 1.2.3 and django-pylibmc 0.5.0 which claims to support SASL. After importing pylibmc and printing the support_sasl constant I realized that libmemcached isn't compiled with SASL support but the libraries for SASL are present. How do I enable SASL support? Do I have to recompile libmemcached?
[16:32] <raub> XATRIX: do you mean latest rlease or latest version for each release?
[16:33] <flick> hello
[16:33] <sdouble> any ideas why I can't hear any sound unless I'm using root/sudo?  user groups: adm cdrom sudo audio dip plugdev fuse lpadmin sambashare pulse-access
[16:40] <cortexA9> ok found a way :)
[16:40] <cortexA9> thanks
[16:41] <XATRIX> Why i can't install ppa repository ?
[16:41] <XATRIX> http://ur1.ca/g8xmp
[16:47] <marianne> MonkeyDust: you around?
[16:48] <XATRIX> apt-get gives me 'Ign' on updating PPA repositories
[16:48] <XATRIX> How can i update it ?
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> hi marianne
[16:50] <sakibccr> hello
[16:52] <marianne> MonkeyDust: just wanted to thank you again for the help yesterday... got it working and have a task in place for backups
[16:52] <Infinitum> anybody in here know how to avoid a device to sleep. Like initiate the S3 state, but leave one PCI-device powered on?
[16:52] <OerHeks> XATRIX, Ign means there are no changes in the pdiff index file, it wont bother downloading it again.
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> marianne  great! i'm glad i good help :)
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> could*
[16:55] <marianne> MonkeyDust: i do feel kind of like an idiot... i was making a simple mistake... but then that can happen when you're sleep deprived
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> marianne  we're here to learn
[17:04] <kevie> Hi, I'm in need of a bit of help but haven't had much experience with Ubuntu (it's on my father's laptop)
[17:05] <sdouble> any ideas why I can't hear any sound unless I'm using root/sudo?  user groups: adm cdrom sudo audio dip plugdev fuse lpadmin sambashare pulse-access
[17:05] <trijntje> kevie: ask away ;)
[17:05] <kevie> it boots into a prompt but only about a quarter of the screen is covered and the mouse is active (almost like there is a graphical environment there, but no window manager)
[17:05] <sdouble> type startx and press enter
[17:06] <sdouble> see if anything happens
[17:06] <kevie> if I try booting recovery mode and starting in failsafe graphics the laptop just freezes
[17:07] <kevie> tried startx, here is the message XIO: fatal IO error 11 on X server "0:" after 7 requests with 0 events running
[17:10] <crugo> hi
[17:10] <uttern00b> Hello :)  I accidentally deleted the network connections/mobile broadband menu from the ubuntu panel. Can anyone tell me how to get it back? It would be much appreciated as I'm now stuck with windows as the only option :/
[17:10] <crugo> whois uttern00b
[17:10] <uttern00b> I'm me
[17:10] <uttern00b> :)
[17:11] <VlanX> *it's me
[17:11] <uttern00b> use a backslash tho :)
[17:11] <VlanX> isnt it forward slash?
[17:11] <uttern00b> is it?
[17:11] <crugo> you can add network applet to the panel again @uttern00b
[17:12] <uttern00b> Don't confuse me man. I'm fubar enuff as it is :/
[17:12] <crugo> well
[17:12] <crugo> sorry about that
[17:12] <uttern00b> crugo: how? And no, I meant VlanX confused me ;)
[17:13] <crugo> which version of ubuntu you are using?
[17:13] <uttern00b> ooold stuff. 10.4 afair
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> uttern00b  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[17:14] <Balzy> hi! I'm currently running kubuntu 13.10 on a notebook with radeon HD + Intel gpu, following the wiki page related to ATI opensource drivers I set in the grub config file "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.dpm=1"" in order to save the battery and reduce temperatures, the problem is that I'm experiencing some glitches scrolling web pages or watching flash video.
[17:14] <akshay2000> Hey! I'm writing remote control client for Windows Phone.
[17:14] <akshay2000> I need some help with JSON-RPC Notifications.
[17:14] <akshay2000> How do I receive the notifications on client side?
[17:14] <akshay2000> Moreover, I will the XBMC server will know what clients are connected and are ready to receive the notifications?
[17:14] <uttern00b> MonkeyDust: No idea. as I can only have internet access from winblows
[17:14] <crugo> oh man! 10.4 uses unity right? if so, then do you remember how you deleted it? i used ubuntu long time ago. a bit rusty. @uttern00b
[17:15] <zykotick9> crugo: 10.04 used gnome2...  fyi, 10.04 isn't supported anymore, nor is gnome2
[17:15] <uttern00b> crugo: May I PM you? this is going a bit too fast :/
[17:16] <akshay2000> uttern00b: You just need to get off 10.04
[17:16] <VlanX> uttern00b: i think you'd be better off upgrading my friend
[17:16] <akshay2000> It's time to get upgraded to something.
[17:16] <crugo> if gnome, then right click on the gnome panel, add panel item, then you should find the network manager applet. add it. then you get your network manger @uttern00b
[17:16] <uttern00b> Can't. old pc. and I hate unity
[17:16] <VlanX> -
[17:16] <VlanX> uttern00b: how about lubuntu?
[17:16] <crugo> sure go ahead uttern00b
[17:16] <VlanX> that runs on my toaster too
[17:17] <kostkon> uttern00b, lubuntu 12.04 would be a good choice
[17:17] <akshay2000> uttern00b: Better switch to something lightweight like Lubntu of XFCE Ubuntu.
[17:17]  * VlanX wins
[17:17] <kostkon> uttern00b, what are the pc specs
[17:18] <raysaas> Can any one  help me on speech-dispatcher and it's consequences?
[17:18] <kevie> OK, just got it sorted, it was deciding to boot into the recovery console by default, changed the setting and got it sorted \o/
[17:18] <kevie> later
[17:18] <ceh> hi everyone
[17:19] <kostkon> ceh, hi
[17:19] <chemist^> hello everyone
[17:20] <mmazing> heyo, i was trying to free up some room on my main drive by deleting some old kernels, and i think i borked my install :\
[17:20] <ceh> my first time in IRC :D nice to meet you guys
[17:20] <chemist^> mmazing lol..nice :D
[17:20] <mmazing> i've been looking through syslog and whatnot and can't seem to figure out where it is dying
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> ceh  this is the support channel, for nice chats, try #ubuntu-offtopc
[17:21] <mmazing> it shows the ubuntu screen and then just goes to a blinking cursor indefinitely
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> ceh  this is the support channel, for nice chats, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:21] <nafg> mmazing: sounds like the kernel is booting, no? What did you delete exactly?
[17:21] <ceh> ah, I have a question in ubuntu too :D
[17:22] <wolfspy> hi
[17:22] <karstensrage> hi can i safely delete all the -pae files in /boot?
[17:22] <wolfspy> I just bought an old computer for $15 and installed ubuntu server on it
[17:22] <bekks> karstensrage: Remove old kernels using apt-get purge
[17:22] <ceh> my BackTrack5 metasploit doesnt work when I run upgrade all
[17:22] <wolfspy> how can I tell how good the cpu is
[17:22] <wolfspy> if it is good I will run a minecraft server on it
[17:22] <chemist^> wolfspy type in: sudo lshw
[17:22] <bekks> ceh: backtrack isnt supported in here.
[17:23] <ceh> oh
[17:23] <ceh> where is it?
[17:23] <bekks> !backtrack | ceh
[17:23] <mmazing> nafg: let's see.... a bunch of linux-generic-pae stuff, i verified that i wasn't removing the current version
[17:23] <ceh> I
[17:23] <ceh> !backtrack
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> wolfspy  start with    lscpu
[17:23] <chemist^> ceh download kali-linux
[17:23] <chemist^> and join #kali-linux
[17:23] <kostkon> wolfspy, or do  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[17:23] <ceh> oh thanks guys
[17:24] <karstensrage> hi bekks how do you  suppress automatic regeneration of initramfs?
[17:25] <bekks> karstensrage: I dont do things like that :)
[17:25] <karstensrage> well i cant purge or anything since /boot is full
[17:25] <mmazing> nafg: http://pastebin.com/GWAN865r was the exact packages i removed
[17:26] <karstensrage> it always tries update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-57-generic-pae and fails due to no disk space
[17:26] <bekks> karstensrage: Then temporarily move away one pretty large file to free up space.
[17:26] <mmazing> my current kernel is 3.5.0-44
[17:26] <wolfspy> http://pastebin.com/5Sj8J2bD is this cpu good?
[17:27] <ezra-s> karstensrage, remove manually
[17:27] <bekks> karstensrage: Say you have three kernels in there, A, B and C and you want to delete A. Move away B then, purge A, move B back, purge B. C is your current kernel, dont touch it.
[17:27] <nafg> mmazing: this router blocks pastebin apparently so I can't view that
[17:28] <zykotick9> mmazing: wolfspy please consider an alternative paste site to pastebin.com - paste.ubuntu.com for example
[17:28] <wolfspy> why?
[17:29] <mmazing> nafg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6624368/
[17:29] <sdouble> any ideas why I can't hear any sound unless I'm using root/sudo?  user groups: adm cdrom sudo audio dip plugdev fuse lpadmin sambashare pulse-access
[17:29] <chemist^> wolfspy for a 15 $ computer it's ok
[17:29] <wolfspy> is it good enough to run a minecraft server?
[17:29] <chemist^> i don't have any experience with minecraft...
[17:30] <chemist^> judging from the screenshots, this could be run on a calculator
[17:30] <chemist^> :D
[17:30] <wolfspy> oh
[17:30] <wolfspy> not really
[17:30] <mmazing> i've chrooted to my main drive ... now what to look for
[17:30] <chemist^> just joking
[17:31] <chemist^> search google for minimum requirements for your game-server
[17:34] <nafg> mmazing: this is not something i'm familiar with but if you'd chrooted can't you now just apt-get install?
[17:35] <mmazing> well, i could reinstall all of those kernels i suppose, but i'm just trying to figure out what is going wrong
[17:35] <mmazing> i don't think the kernel is the issue
[17:35] <nafg> mmazing: true, but all you did is uninstall kernels no?
[17:35] <nafg> apt-cache depends didn't list anything that would get uninstalled
[17:36] <nafg> with it
[17:36] <nafg> mmazing: although depends on my current kernel lists libc6
[17:36] <Mark_de_J> Hi. Can someone help me?
[17:37] <nafg> mmazing: doesn't the ubuntu installer have a repair option?
[17:37] <Mark_de_J> I got some internet problems, my WiFi connection is working, but on a time I lose the access to internet
[17:37] <mmazing> hmmm, maybe
[17:37] <Mark_de_J> I still got wifi, but can't visit any website, how can I resolve this
[17:37] <mmazing> Mark_de_J : do you let your computer go to sleep?
[17:37] <Mark_de_J> No.
[17:38] <Mark_de_J> It is also when I use it
[17:38] <xubuntu826> Hi, my notebook hp g62 does not work with the proprietary GPU drivers
[17:38] <xubuntu826> my GPU is mobility radeon HD 5470
[17:38] <Mark_de_J> mmazing, do you have a idea how to solve?
[17:39] <xubuntu826> I can't install the Hybrid system either
[17:39] <Kamuela> I can get over a problem I'm having, I'd just like to know an opinion on whether or not it's hurting my display. Basically, my screen flickers with a lagging mouse cursor, but only when the screen is black. Any time the screen isn't black, there's no flickering except for on the edges of the screen where Ubuntu has a black border, like the top titlebar.
[17:40] <Mark_de_J> Is there a way to fix the problem?
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> Mark_de_J  do you have connection with cable plugged?
[17:42] <Mark_de_J> Yes, but I got no cable here at home
[17:42] <panda_madness> Hello! I have a little problem with ubuntu. When I'm on windows I use my dedicated graphics card (nVidia gtx 670) for my main monitor, and Intel integrated graphics (Intel hd 4000) for my second monitor. When I boot into ubuntu (13.10) with the default nouveau driver, it also works as it does in windows, both monitors are detected and working correctly. However, if I install any version of the nvidia linux drivers (both from the
[17:42] <panda_madness> repo and from their site) my secondary monitor stops being detected, and only the main one works. I have searched for a solution online but have not found a definitive answer. Could use some help.
[17:43] <Mark_de_J> I got only wifi here, can I fix it then?
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> Mark_de_J  we have to know if it's a WAN or a LAN issue
[17:43] <Mark_de_J> WAN = No cable?
[17:44] <Mark_de_J> LAN = Cable right? That is working fine.
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> wan = internet, lan = connection between pc and router
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> Mark_de_J  then it's a wifi issue, not an internet issue
[17:44] <Mark_de_J> And how to fix?
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | Mark_de_J start here
[17:45] <Mark_de_J> MonkeyDust, that looks hard.
[17:45] <Mark_de_J> brb
[17:46] <mmazing> i'm looking at the rescue mode installer, and it says "To access rescue mode, type rescue at the boot: prompt, or boot with the rescue/enable=true boot parameter." i'm not sure how to pull that up
[17:46] <Mark_de_j> Back
[17:47] <Mark_de_j> Is there not a normal easy way to solve it?
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> Mark_de_j  a cable is the normal and easy way
[17:48] <Mark_de_j> Got no cable.
[17:48] <Mark_de_j> Must make on school then. :(
[17:49] <gazarsgo> if i can't reboot a box via ctrl-alt-delete or shutdown -r now what can i do ?
[17:49] <gazarsgo> box being a remote VM :)
[17:49] <lickalott> gazarsgo sudo init 6
[17:49] <phelix> is it possible to run crontab manually and have it output to the display what is happening? Just trying to check to see the scripts in there are running properly
[17:50] <lickalott> or init 0 (software shutdown) init 5 (hardware shutdown)
[17:50] <gazarsgo> what does init 6 do that shutdown -r now doesn't ?
[17:50] <lickalott> phelix have an entry in the script that outputs to a log file
[17:51] <phelix> can i just add like 1> ./file.log ?
[17:51] <lickalott> init 6 is a restart (root) command level
[17:51] <lickalott> yes phelix
[17:51] <BrianH> I have a problem with the workspace switcher that I'd like to fix if possible.  I run virtual machines on my Ubuntu box through VirtualBox, and when a VM is in full screen and goes idle, after reaccessing the system a user can use the workspace switcher to see everything else running on a system without hitting the Ubuntu lock screen.
[17:52] <lickalott> gazarsgo are you forcing the shutdown of the ubuntu VM or the host windows?
[17:52] <user101> hi
[17:52] <BrianH> Is there a way to fix this so that the user will need to enter the system credentials before using the workspace switcher?
[17:52] <phelix> will cron run everything in order? If i need one script to run before the next one will work properly, will putting one before the other work? It doesn't run multiple scripts at the same time?
[17:52] <gazarsgo> lickalott: the ubuntu VM… i guess whatever was wedged unwedged, because it finally bounced
[17:52] <gazarsgo> the host is xen in my case
[17:52] <lickalott> not quite sure of your problem BrianH
[17:53] <gazarsgo> thanks for the pointer on init 6
[17:53] <lickalott> it will initiate in order phelix, but you're timing of the cronjob will need to be there as well.
[17:53] <lickalott> np gazarsgo
[17:53] <BrianH> lickalott: the problem is that the system is idle and would normally require a password to unlock, but if a VM is left full screen beforehand, the user can use the host's workspace switcher to see the entire system.
[17:54] <user101> can someone throw me a script together to auto delete all logs on shutdown
[17:54] <lickalott> so the "timeout" for screen lock isn't propigating to the VM BrianH?
[17:54] <phelix> ok so script a is before script b. Script b will not start running until script a is done correct?
[17:54] <user101> ubuntu m00b
[17:54] <lickalott> wait 1 user101, I'll HELP, but not write it for you
[17:54] <user101> thanks !
[17:55] <eddlemon> Greetings. I am running Ubuntu Studio. I am able to hear MIDI files in my headphones but no other sounds. Any advice?
[17:55] <llutz> user101: put your /var/log into tmpfs [x]done
[17:55] <lickalott> phelix if you've timed it correctly.  just out of curiosty, why not have it run within the same script with a loop or sleep function
[17:56] <phelix> lickalott Probably a better idea.
[17:56] <lickalott> user101 what are you trying to delete?
[17:56] <user101> just all the every log that is generated
[17:56] <BrianH> lickalott: not to the VM, but the host itself.  If the host goes idle with a VM in full screen, the host never asks for credentials if the VM was fullscreen beforehand.  It allows the user to access the VM without entering the hosts credentials.  The problem is that the user can use the hosts workspace switcher to see the entire host system without ever entering the hosts credentials.
[17:56] <lickalott> user101 i.e. /var/*log*?
[17:56] <trijntje> user101: why not mount /var/log as tempfs (ie in RAM), that way the logs will automatically disappear when you shutdown. No messy scripts needed
[17:56] <user101> so /var/log in the temp? shouyld do it?
[17:57] <lickalott> hrrmmmm BrianH, I'd have to dig on that
[17:57] <user101> whats the advantage of doing it anyway
[17:57] <llutz> user101: tmpfs is in RAM which is cleared at reboot. nothing left, logs gone
[17:57] <calvinist> !ops
[17:58] <trijntje> user101: tempfs, not temp. You can find instructions online
[17:58] <lickalott> that's the easiest user101 (what trijntje and llutz said)
[17:58] <user101> ok thanks
[17:58] <BrianH> Maybe I can try screen recording it.  I'll just have to set the hosts idle timeout to be really short to show it.
[17:58] <llutz> user101: just keep in mind that this will make error-handling harder, because you never have any logs after a reboot to check
[17:59] <lickalott> can you edit the screen lock timeout for a shorter time BrianH?
[17:59] <lickalott> i'm not sure what the workspace switcher is.  i'm assuming scrolling between the workspaces on the desktop but i may be mistaken based on the description of your issue.
[18:00] <BrianH> lickalott: Ubuntu's workspace switcher
[18:00] <lickalott> user101 agree with llutz.  why do you want to delete those logs?  They may serve a purpose one day
[18:01] <lickalott> that's what I thought.  So if the ubuntu VM were to initiate a screen lock within a certain amount of time would that solve your issue BrianH
[18:02] <BrianH> lickalott: the VM is not Ubuntu, it's a Windows 8 VM.  The host is Ubuntu.
[18:03] <lickalott> OH....
[18:03] <w3l3h> dear friends :)
[18:04] <w3l3h> have you ever try caching DotA2 update from steam using squid proxy?
[18:04] <lickalott> BrianH - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/1124282
[18:06] <BrianH> lickalott: that's the problem.  Thank you very much. :)
[18:07] <fedgalaxy> hello, I would like to ask a question about "mousetweaks" package and where did it come from? by all the sudden, the mouse now clicks automatically everywhere? whats going on? (Ubuntu 12.04 LTS)
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> fedgalaxy  system settings > universal access > pointing and clicking > simulated click
[18:09] <fedgalaxy> MonkeyDust, why it did happen by all the sudden?
[18:09] <hawa> i cannot ./configure while compiling... says"checking whether the C compiler works... no
[18:09] <hawa>  cannot create executable"  the pastebin of log file... http://pastebin.com/KEAPPNVg
[18:11] <uttern00b> Aww, where did crugo go? He was so helpful, and I'm half way thru my troubles.
[18:14] <moodindigo> #timisoara Undernet
[18:14] <uttern00b> I finally got the "network connections" window up and running, WITH my mobile broadband in the list. Now my problem is that I can't seem to choose to connect to a(ny) network. It simply doesn't show the "network bars" in the panel. ubuntu 10.4. Help please :)
[18:15] <hawa> sth is wrong with my gcc
[18:16] <hawa> sbd help plzzz... this is very urgent...
[18:17] <lickalott> hawa, I don't see any C errors in that report
[18:18] <hawa> lickalott, i cannot even compile simple hello world program
[18:18] <lickalott> what are you using as a complier?
[18:18] <hawa> lickalott, gcc
[18:19] <lickalott> dpkg -l | grep gcc
[18:20] <hawa> lickalott, bt that's nt the issue... i cannot compile and build... says "checking whether the C compiler is working... no"
[18:20] <Watcher> Hello. I just applied updates on my Kubuntu 12.04 box. One upgrade was kernel 3.2.0-57. Now I can't boot to 3.2.0-57. I can still boot to 3.2.0-56.
[18:20] <lickalott> are you sure the gcc package is up to date and/or actually there?
[18:21] <lickalott> watcher upgrade again then update, then reboot
[18:21] <hawa> lickalott, http://pastebin.com/TQXP4rVP
[18:22] <lickalott> hawa can you send me what you're tyring to do?  i can try it on my machine
[18:22] <Watcher> Thanks lickalot
[18:22] <hawa> lickalott, well i update things pretty often
[18:22] <hawa> lickalott, http://bino3d.org/download.html
[18:26] <OerHeks> !info bino
[18:26] <lickalott> configuring now hawa
[18:27] <hawa> lickalott, i think my gcc is corrupted...
[18:27] <lickalott> oh...you know what.  This won't work for me.  i'm running server.  I don't have any of the opengl libs
[18:27] <hawa> it cannot even compile small program like hello world program
[18:27] <jlmarks_> hello folks! I am trying to get an application built/installed, but when I run cmake . it throw errors regarding "Could NOT find GnuTLS (missing: GNUTLS_LIBRARY GNUTLS_INCLUDE_DIR)" ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/6624655/ ). I have worked my google-fu and found no real clarity, does this look like some obvious thing that I have messed up?
[18:28] <lickalott> try this hawa  = http://askubuntu.com/questions/271388/how-to-install-gcc-4-8-in-ubuntu-12-04-from-the-terminal
[18:30] <poa> Hi guys
[18:30] <trism> jlmarks_: libgnutls-dev perhaps
[18:32] <jlmarks_> trism: installing right now, thanks for the reply!
[18:32] <jlmarks_> trism:  Thank you, that was the cash money!
[18:46] <prsteele> Hello! I'm trying to learn how upstart sessions are managed. Does anyone know which upstart .conf file is used when I log into a session?
[18:48] <tubbo> you know how there's Wine, the windows emulation layer for linux? is there an equiv layer for Mac apps?
[18:49] <tubbo> i saw http://darling.dolezel.info/en/Darling but i was wondering how well does it work? *does* it work? :D
[18:49] <trism> prsteele: they are in /usr/share/upstart/sessions/, I believe it starts with xsession-init.conf
[18:49] <prsteele> trism: thanks!
[18:49] <hawa> does anybd knw a nice 3d movie player for ubuntu except Bino... its a little complex for me... i need a player with nice GUI
[18:50] <DrSlony> Hi, I get a kernel panic when I run "sudo dpkg --configure -a", and i ned to run that to fix some problem when trying to apt-get upgrade, what do I do?
[18:50] <BluesKaj> hawa, VLC might fit your needs
[18:50] <hawa> it does not play 3d...
[18:50] <hawa> BluesKaj,
[18:51] <BluesKaj> DrSlony, what's the error ?
[18:51] <BluesKaj> hawa, I'm quite sure there's a 3D plugin
[18:51] <hawa> BluesKaj, so i hav to install the plugin or it's there by default???
[18:52] <DrSlony> BluesKaj "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[18:52] <DrSlony> and running that causes a kernel penic
[18:53] <roasted> question - what is it within ubuntu that actually allows for sd cards and usb devices to auto mount when inserted?
[18:56] <BluesKaj> DrSlony, run sudo apt-get -f install
[18:57] <BluesKaj> hawa, sorry I'm mistaken about 3D on VLC , no plugin available yet
[18:57] <hawa> BluesKaj, okie...
[18:57] <DrSlony> BluesKaj same error, "E:dpkg was interrupted, blabla"
[18:58] <BluesKaj> DrSlony, pastebin your error pls
[19:00] <BluesKaj> hawa, how do yo mean too complex ? it's in the repos , just install it
[19:00] <BluesKaj> bino that is , hawa
[19:18] <munz> so i have a windows 2003 domain, im trying to give smb access to 2 users both on 12.04.3, i can connect with administrator credentials (windows domain) but not with the standard user credentials, natilus keeps asking me to check the credentials, im sure they are right, on my windows machines the users can connect.... any ideas?
[19:19] <munz> *nautilus
[19:19] <compdoc> you have defined users in ubuntu using the same username and password as the windows users?
[19:19] <munz> yes
[19:19] <compdoc> have you added them to smbpasswd too?
[19:20] <munz> no
[19:21] <munz> reading man now thx :)
[19:21] <compdoc> munz, theres two passwords - one for ubuntu and one for smb
[19:22] <jonne_> does anyone know how to flash the BIOS on a dell xps that came with ubuntu? I downloaded the BIOS .exe for my laptop, but when i try the built-in tool i get 'can't load kernel file' in the DOS thing that should be running the BIOS update
[19:22] <munz> ok
[19:23] <DrSlony> Help, I get error "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." when I try to run apt-get update, and when I run that command I get a kernel panic. What do I do?
[19:25] <aisyah> ubuntary awesome :)
[19:25] <hans__> hi guys
[19:26] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[19:30] <Alias_123> What was the channel name for Ubuntu offtopic? #ubuntu_offtopic ?
[19:30] <Ben64> #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:31] <Alias_123> Cheers
[19:31] <trijntje> DrSlony: do you have e4rat installed?
[19:32] <trijntje> if so, try starting without it and updating
[19:37] <DrSlony> trijntje i might, will try
[19:39] <thekkid> I'm using gnome-shellwith ubuntu 13.10 and every once and a while my screen freezes and I have to go to a fallback terminal and restart lightdm. gnome-shell --replace doesn't fix the issue. Any ideas on how to troubleshoot this?
[19:39] <DrSlony> thekkid check /var/log for reasons
[19:39] <Iulia> Hello everyone! Can anyone help , please? I need to find a software to write textos on images with fancy letters, colors and effects. I already use Gimp, Inkscape and Scribus, asking if you know another. Or a gimp alphabet brushes pack ? Many thanks!!!
[19:40] <DrSlony> Xorg.log might show some EE (errors)
[19:40] <DrSlony> Iulia krita
[19:42] <Alias_123> lulia, unless you're willing to use Photoshop via Wine, I think GIMP and Inkscape are your best shots.
[19:43] <Iulia> thank you I will search and test
[19:43] <thekkid> DrSlony: I'm just seeing a bunch of Nvidia messages in the Xorg log.
[19:43] <Iulia> Ok, many thanks to both
[19:43] <thekkid> DrSlony: DOn't see any that look like crash messages.
[19:46] <PDilyard> is there a way i could take a screenshot with the app switcher (alt+tab) in view?
[19:47] <Alias_123> thekidd, got your GPU drivers installed?
[19:47] <PDilyard> for some reason, i have two alt+tab app switchers and i cant figure out what's causing them
[19:47] <BrianH> PDilyard: print screen button?
[19:48] <PDilyard> that doesnt work when you have alt held down
[19:48] <BrianH> PDilyard: hot corner it?
[19:48] <PDilyard> good idea
[19:48] <PDilyard> hang on
[19:51] <DrSlony> trijntje that works, thank you!
[19:53] <cer> hi everybody .... I am used to using cups through browser, but do not seem to be able to do t anymore on 13.10 ....
[19:53] <cer> so when I point to localhost:631, it asks me for login and password, but then no matter what login an password I put, I cannot login.
[19:53] <cer> Any help?
[19:54] <riqdiiz> Cer it doesn't know you;-)
[19:54] <cer> riqdiiz: What do you mean?
[19:55] <riqdiiz> Cer localhost
[19:56] <riqdiiz> Happens when you fumble with homepage.
[19:56] <cer> riqdiiz: mmmm .... well, it should .... why should it not?
[19:58] <riqdiiz> It did buddy .Put it back.:-)
[19:58] <darkmaster777> is there a ubuntu touch channel?
[19:59] <DJones> !touch | darkmaster777
[19:59] <darkmaster777> thank you! DJones!
[19:59] <lickalott> cer
[19:59] <cer> lickalott: yep?
[19:59] <lickalott> did you set up cups again after the upgrade?
[20:00] <lickalott> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2187524
[20:00] <lickalott> cer ^^
[20:02] <slunchy> hello all
[20:02] <Alias_123> Hi!
[20:04] <slunchy> We recently had a linux server crash at work, does anyone know any good linux server textbooks? Primarily for RedHat.
[20:04] <cer> lickalott: yep, I upgraded ages ago .... it suddenly stopped working after the very last update.
[20:04] <cer> lickalott: just solved the problem, by reinstalling all the printer drivers.
[20:04] <lickalott> copy
[20:05] <cer> lickalott: :)
[20:07] <TreY> who can help me with something very easy in python? ty!
[20:08] <lickalott> !ask | TreY
[20:08] <cer> thanks for your help all the same lickalott
[20:08] <carmineUbuntu> hello - first installation of ubuntu - X not runnint - some hints ?
[20:08] <carmineUbuntu> thank
[20:08] <elvis-hp> hi
[20:08] <lickalott> ?
[20:09] <elvis-hp> globalfind in xchat, is it possible?
[20:09] <lickalott> carmineUbuntu, you need to be more specific homesile
[20:09] <lickalott> *someslice
[20:10] <lickalott> elvis-hp, splain
[20:10] <carmineUbuntu> lickalott: well I installed ubuntu and rebooted - and I got a blank screen instead of xdm (or something else) - just a blank screen on Alt+F7 console... now I am here using irssi
[20:11] <lickalott> did you install server or desktop rev?
[20:11] <elvis-hp> ok now there are bigger problems, another time, thanx
[20:11] <lickalott> elvis-hp -https://www.google.com/search?q=global+find+xchat&oq=globalfind+in+xcha&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0.7452j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
[20:11] <carmineUbuntu> lickalott: I don't know - everything done from the installation CD - I just rebooted
[20:12] <lickalott> what is the full title of the .iso that you used?
[20:12] <carmineUbuntu> lickalott: I don't remember but it's 12.04.3 LTS
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> carmineUbuntu  12.04 is good, stick to it, but is it server or desktop edition?
[20:13] <carmineUbuntu> MonkeyDust: desktop edition - but no desktop for me :)
[20:13] <lickalott> doesn't help.  Server and Desktop both come in LTS forms.  when you boot do you come into a terminal like environment that takes up your entire screen?
[20:14] <lickalott> is this what you used = ubuntu-12.04.3-server-amd64.iso
[20:14] <carmineUbuntu> lickalott: when I reboot I just have a blank screen instead of a login (like xdm - kdm)
[20:14] <carmineUbuntu> no lickalott wait I have to go on the windows pc to check the file name
[20:15] <jhutchins> carmineUbuntu: Do you have the usual consoles?  Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[20:15] <lickalott> this seems to be happening a lot lately.  My recco has been to throw a gparted livecd in, format the hdd ext3 and re-install.
[20:16] <lickalott> the other things tied to this issue have to do with UEFI bios and junk
[20:16] <lickalott> carmineUbuntu was there a previous kernel installed on the target harddrive
[20:17] <carmineUbuntu> lickalott: the file is ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
[20:17] <carmineUbuntu> lickalott: no I am using the whole hard disk to have ubuntu on it
[20:18] <lickalott> then i would focus on the target hard drive.  format with gparted (you can either use the ubuntu live CD or gparted live CD).  Format to ext3 and try to re-install
[20:18] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[20:19] <jhutchins> lickalott: Reformatting is usually not a standard method to fix a bad xorg config.
[20:19] <carmineUbuntu> lickalott: reinstall ? it was a blank hard disk and.. I am in bash at the moment and... I just entered my password and my location nothing more... the whole process was done by the CD
[20:19] <carmineUbuntu> sorry
[20:19] <carmineUbuntu> lag
[20:19] <jhutchins> carmineUbuntu: I don't think you should reinstall quite yet.
[20:20] <jhutchins> carmineUbuntu: It sounds like you simply have a video driver problem.  Do you see anything at boot?  Can you get to a console?
[20:20] <carmineUbuntu> jhutchins: this is my very first time in ubuntu and... I dunno if it's using nvidia-drivers or nouveau
[20:20] <lickalott> if you can get in with a shell, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf and pastebin it
[20:20] <carmineUbuntu> jhutchins: well I did Alt+Ctrl+F1 and I am here from irssi
[20:20] <jhutchins> lickalott: By default there is no xorg.conf
[20:20] <carmineUbuntu> jhutchins: but in Alt+Ctrl+F7 I have nothing
[20:20] <jhutchins> carmineUbuntu: Excellent.  No need to reinstall.
[20:21] <jhutchins> !nvidia
[20:21] <carmineUbuntu> jhutchins: yes but I cannot start X (and I really dunno how to do it) - just checked lightdm status - it's running -
[20:21] <carmineUbuntu> yeah I have a nvidia geforce 740m
[20:21] <jhutchins> carmineUbuntu: If you append nomodeset to the kernel parameters at boot you _might_ get a GUI with the vesa driver.
[20:21] <jhutchins> carmineUbuntu: Yeah, x is running but not correctly.
[20:22] <carmineUbuntu> jhutchins: ok using vesa or uvesa .. and what about nouveau or nvidia proprietary drivers ?
[20:22] <carmineUbuntu> jhutchins: at the moment I don't really know how to manage ubuntu :D i am like a virgin
[20:22] <jhutchins> carmineUbuntu: Get the right ones set up to match your chipset - I'm afraid I'm all Intel graphics so I don't know the details.
[20:22] <carmineUbuntu> jhutchins: ok but - how ?
[20:22] <jhutchins> carmineUbuntu: Lots of reading to do then! <grin>
[20:22] <Calinou> I'm a virgin, and I know how to manage ubuntu, carmineUbuntu
[20:23] <carmineUbuntu> Calinou: i was used to portage... emerge -avt nvidia-drivers and game over
[20:24] <jhutchins> carmineUbuntu: If you don't have another system to surf from there's a console-based browser called lynx, and it renders the Ubuntu help pages pretty well since they're text based.
[20:24] <Calinou> installing drivers on your PC is complicated because of Optimus
[20:24] <Calinou> blame NVIDIA's poor, very poor support for that technology on GNU/Linux
[20:24] <jhutchins> !optimus
[20:24] <Calinou> else, it is very easy to install the NVIDIA drivers ;)
[20:24] <Calinou> even Bumblebee/Primus are much slower than the Windows implementation of Optimus
[20:25] <Calinou> (hopefully, the dedicated card will still be faster than the IGP... except on low end systems)
[20:25] <jhutchins> No?  Optimus is a small set of laptops with dual video drivers, should not be assumed to be the problem.
[20:25] <Calinou> (in the case of the 740M, it should be faster)
[20:25] <carmineUbuntu> jhutchins: i installed elinks
[20:26] <jhutchins> carmineUbuntu: Whatever works for you.  _Is_ this a laptop with Optimus video?
[20:26] <carmineUbuntu> Calinou: ok but "how" ? :)
[20:26] <Calinou> jhutchins, any laptop with 400/500/600/700M NVIDIA cards series has Optimus, and it is a big problem
[20:26] <Calinou> but I don't know if your problem is Optimus-related
[20:26] <Calinou> but I'm just saying it's a problem in general...
[20:26] <carmineUbuntu> jhutchins: i don't really know what you are talking about :D it's a asus x750j - i7 - nvidia geforge 740m - i now nothing else
[20:27] <jhutchins> carmineUbuntu: Optimus is a special feature on some laptops.  Intel graphics for power saving, switches over to Nvidia for graphics-intensive things like games.  You would have paid extra for it so you'd probably know.
[20:27] <carmineUbuntu> Calinou: yes but there is a system to solve .. i mean ... i was with systemrescuecd and with nouveau drivers I had a functional xfce4 desktop working... the installation was good in GUI and now... X doesn't start
[20:28] <carmineUbuntu> jhutchins: no no this laptop is cheap thanks god
[20:28] <jhutchins> carmineUbuntu: lspci -nn will show you what video chipset(s) you have and you can match it to the wikipage for Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[20:28] <carmineUbuntu> jhutchins: how to start gpm please ?
[20:29] <jhutchins> service gpm start?
[20:30] <carmineUbuntu> jhutchins: 01:00.0 3D controller [0302]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:1292] (rev a1)
[20:30] <carmineUbuntu> jhutchins: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Haswell Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0416] (rev 06)
[20:31] <carmineUbuntu> trying rebooting
[20:32] <jhutchins> How is rebooting going to help if you didn't change anything...
[20:34] <VitoCorleone> Life is like a big...vulnerable box.
[20:34] <VitoCorleone> all you gotta do is that you gotta break that goddamn box.
[20:34] <VitoCorleone> can anybody lend me a hand on breaking this box?
[20:35] <dmitru> carmineUbuntu: install ubuntu server, and then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop - video Card if you have a laptop, use one memory module or recompile the kernel
[20:35] <carmineUbuntu> dmitru: ?
[20:35] <carmineUbuntu> dmitru: do you mean to install from the ubuntu-server CD ?
[20:38] <ice9> suddenly fonts in gedit is not smooth and not clear
[20:39] <jhutchins> carmineUbuntu: I think he was just spewing random nonsense.
[20:39] <jhutchins> carmineUbuntu: You know you just need to get the right drivers working.
[20:39] <carmineUbuntu> jhutchins: oh, ok - I had the suggestion of installing 13.0
[20:40] <pwler> list
[20:40] <jhutchins> carmineUbuntu: I think that when ubuntu installs the proprietary drivers, it blacklists the nouveau driver. (Since I don't have Nvidia I don't know.)
[20:40] <dmitru> carmineUbuntu: Yes, followed the desktop team - apt-get update && apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (gnom) apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (KDE) apt-get install xubuntu-desktop (Xfce)
[20:40] <carmineUbuntu> jhutchins: ok but I have this hybrid grafic card - intel + nvidia
[20:40] <jhutchins> You can check for a modprobe.d blacklist ...
[20:40] <zykotick9> jhutchins: you are correct about blacklist
[20:40] <jhutchins> carmineUbuntu: So it's Optimus after all, and you have to deal with bumblebee.
[20:41] <jhutchins> carmineUbuntu: Or with disabling one of the GPUs.  I know even less about that, sorry.
[20:41] <carmineUbuntu> jhutchins: thank you really much :) I dunno how to disable GPUs :D
[20:42] <dmitru> carmineUbuntu: You use a laptop?
[20:42] <carmineUbuntu> dmitru: yes
[20:44] <jonne_> anyone know what could be wrong with this boot sequence?
[20:44] <jonne_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6625304/
[20:45] <dmitru> carmineUbuntu: Problem in memory modules, defaul ubuntu not support two memory modules into some notebook models, therefore better pull out one.
[20:45] <jonne_> doesn't get past plymouth on 3.11 kernels, the 3.8 kernel from ubuntu 13.04 works fine
[20:45] <carmineUbuntu> dmitru: how ?
[20:46] <dmitru> carmineUbuntu: For two memory modules rebuild the kernel
[20:47] <Rallias> Is there a way with iptables to send non-ipsec traffic to the dumpster?
[20:47] <Rallias> To a specific port that is
[20:48] <john_rambo> When I try to enable the apparmor profile for Firefox I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6625367/
[20:51] <KI7MT> john_rambo: you could try: do aa-enforce /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox
[20:52] <KI7MT> *sudo
[20:52] <dmitru>  carmineUbuntu: Contact the store of purchase, where the is possible to buy a larger volume of the memory module, they can easily make the change of memory module.
[20:52] <john_rambo> KI7MT, sudo: aa-enforce: command not found
[20:55] <redGod> hey yall after I reinstalled 13.10 my speaker, mic, and headphones dont work
[20:55] <redGod> any suggestions
[20:55] <KI7MT> john_rambo: sri had that as shortcut they these two commands: sudo apparmor_parser -R /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox
[20:56] <KI7MT> sudo ln -s /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox /etc/apparmor.d/disable/usr.bin.firefox
[20:56] <KI7MT> Then: sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor reload
[20:56] <BrianH_> redGod: Did you check your Sound settings?
[20:56] <redGod> yeah its not detecting it for some reason
[20:57] <KI7MT> The check the status with: sudo apparmor_status
[20:57] <BrianH_> redGod: nothing listed in outputs?
[20:58] <BrianH_> redGod: try running "sudo alsa force-reload" in terminal
[20:58] <john_rambo> KI7MT, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6625423/
[20:58] <Torrelles> Hello, fellow comrades!
[20:58] <redGod> it says built-in audio but in alsamixer it only sees the hdmi
[20:59] <Torrelles> Ubuntu freshman here, currently installing it for the first time
[20:59] <xumuk> hi there
[21:00] <BrianH_> redGod: purge and reinstall alsa-base and pulseaudio
[21:01] <redGod> whats the command to purge?
[21:01] <BrianH_> redGod: "sudo apt-get remove --purge alsa-base pulseaudio"
[21:02] <redGod> BrianH_: Thanks
[21:02] <BrianH_> redGod: then "sudo apt-get install alsa-base pulseaudio"
[21:02] <zykotick9> redGod: you have tried F6 in alsamixer right?  does "cat /proc/asound/cards" show both?
[21:02] <BrianH_> redGod: No worries.  Hope it helps.
[21:03] <KI7MT> john_rambo: Ok, it would appear you profile is already present, thus the error. I actually getting the same error on my box using: sudo apparmor_parser /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox  so it may be enabled already.
[21:03] <redGod> we'll find out soon
[21:03] <zykotick9> redGod: two other thing, typically uninstall/reinstall doesn't do anything.  and two, you can save some typing with "apt-get purge foo"
[21:04] <BluesKaj> also pulseaudio has to be l
[21:04] <BluesKaj> killed before it can be removed
[21:05] <john_rambo> KI7MT, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6625452/      ............But I dont see FF in the list
[21:06] <KI7MT> john_rambo: ok, lets delete the old and add it in first: sudo rm /etc/apparmor.d/disable/usr.bin.firefox
[21:06] <KI7MT> john_rambo: then: cat /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox | sudo apparmor_parser –a
[21:07] <BluesKaj> but killing pulseaudio may not help if your sound card driver isn.t loading , especially if it's an intel hda . they have a bug which fprgets to load the driver after upgrades
[21:07] <BluesKaj> forgets
[21:07] <KI7MT> john_rambo: then  sudo apparmor_status  again and see if it appears.
[21:08] <BluesKaj> redGod^
[21:08] <dirch_> holla, wo bin ich den hier gelandet ?
[21:08] <redGod> the purge done nothing still no sound
[21:08] <jhutchins> !de
[21:08] <dirch_> ok, bb
[21:08] <john_rambo> KI7MT, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6625472/
[21:09] <redGod> BluesKaj: not sure the brand of it, it is internal on my laptop
[21:09] <john_rambo> Oh S*** ...One sec
[21:11] <BluesKaj> redGod, sudo lshw -C sound , look at he 'product"
[21:11] <KI7MT> john_rambo: hmm your apparmor doesn't seemt o be complete for whatever reason, all these commands are workign as expected on my 12.04 desktop.
[21:12] <john_rambo> KI7MT, I am using 12.04 too  64 bit.....
[21:13] <john_rambo> Okay .....Thanks
[21:14] <KI7MT> JohnUK89: check to see if you have the profiles installed: dpkg -s apparmor-profiles
[21:15] <KI7MT> whoops, wrong nick ..
[21:15] <redGod> BluesKaj: it's intell
[21:16] <Rdiance> hey guys
[21:17] <BluesKaj> redGod,, run , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , then you may have to reboot
[21:18] <Rdiance> i have ubuntu 13.10 and i installed xubuntu-desktop package. however, i didin't like XFCE, so i removed xubuntu-desktop and other XFCE packages, but the XFCE login screen is still there. how do i remove it and get back ubuntu's default login screen?
[21:19] <redGod> BluesKaj: done but nothing, so I am gonna restart brb
[21:24] <KI7MT> Rdiance: use sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm  and you should be able to select Lightdm or whatever you have installed.
[21:25] <Rdiance> alright, thanks KI7MT
[21:26] <ColdKeyboard> Could someone please help me on how to install madwifi on lubuntu? I have tried via oficiall how-to guide but I can't download the .deb file because it's not there or I can't find one :\
[21:28] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs   ColdKeyboard have a read
[21:28] <kostkon> !find madwifi
[21:28] <patarr> hello all. I have read that Ubuntu has trouble running 3 monitors with 2 GPUs (One integrated, and one PCI). But I heard that the new kernel in 13.x allows it. Does anyone have experience with this?
[21:29] <kostkon> patarr, why not give it a try
[21:29] <kostkon> patarr, with a live usb
[21:30] <redGod> nope still no sound and also there is no icon on the toolbar anymore
[21:30] <patarr> kostkon, because I don't have the second GPU and don't want to bill my company for it needlessly.
[21:30] <shreezbot_> If I add a new drive to my server and format it ext3, amd I still able to share it via smb???
[21:30] <kostkon> patarr, why are you asking then? just wondering
[21:30] <KI7MT> shengyao: yes
[21:31] <patarr> kostkon, to have a reasonable assumption that ordering a GPU won't be in vain.
[21:31] <kostkon> patarr, oh, of course. ok then
[21:31] <KI7MT> shreezbot_: Yes should be no problem.
[21:31] <lonewulf85> I am continuing to have trouble with my dimmer controls any help would be gate. I am using Ubuntu 12.04 x64 on an acer AO722 and I am using the FGLRX drivers for my ati card.
[21:31] <BluesKaj> redGod, did you purge pulseaudio and alsa-base, because if you did they need reinstalling
[21:32] <patarr> I also have another question. With Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, you have a stable environment and packages right? If I gave it the kernel from 13.x could I still benefit from that same stability and packages and such?
[21:33] <redGod> I did purge and I did reinstall
[21:33] <patarr> Pardon my ignorance, I may not fully understand how LTS works and such. I presume it's like Redhat or CentOS, where they hold off on upgrading a bunch of libraries and such in order to maintain stability
[21:33] <gordonjcp> patarr: pretty much
[21:33] <gordonjcp> patarr: obviously "stable" means "does not change" here
[21:34] <patarr> does the kernel relate to this?
[21:34] <zykotick9> gordonjcp: ahhhh....
[21:34] <kostkon> patarr, actually 12.04.3 comes with the 13.04 kernel by default but you can easily install the one from 13.10 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[21:34] <kostkon> patarr, x and kernel of 13.10 that is
[21:35] <patarr> kostkon, that sounds great. If I keep up to date on my updates, does that mean I'm already perhaps at 12.04.3?
[21:35] <gordonjcp> patarr: yes
[21:35] <gordonjcp> patarr: if you installed from 12.04 dead you'd find you pull in a lot of updates at first
[21:35] <gordonjcp> with 12.04.3 there are fewer updates
[21:36] <kostkon> patarr, yeah, but only new installations from the refreshed iso get the new stack, older installations must update manually. when did you install it
[21:36] <patarr> hm, looks like I am on 12.04.3
[21:36] <geirha> patarr: you can check by running   lsb_release -a   in a terminal
[21:36] <patarr> geirha: just did! :)
[21:36] <kostkon> patarr, yeah, but what was the point version of the iso when you installed it
[21:37] <patarr> kostkon, no idea.
[21:37] <patarr> Work machine.
[21:37] <g0bl1n> how can one check if a gpu is installed ?
[21:37] <kostkon> patarr, actually, what's your kernel version?  uname -a
[21:37] <patarr> g0bl1n: lspci | grep vga i believe
[21:37] <redGod> BluesKaj: do you have anything else to attempt
[21:37] <patarr> kostkon: 3.2.0-57-generic #87-Ubuntu SMP
[21:37] <[[thufir]]> I can find documentation for dovecot, and for postfix, but I thought there was a special page for dovecot-postfix documentation?  It's an integrated stack.
[21:38] <kostkon> patarr, then it's a pretty old installation
[21:38] <g0bl1n> nothing appears...
[21:38] <g0bl1n> its a PCI-e
[21:38] <kostkon> patarr, then you'll have to just update manually to get the saucy stack.
[21:39] <kostkon> patarr, instructions as always on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[21:39] <HoldenC> g0bl1n, lspci | grep -i vga
[21:39] <ImNaN> Hi gus where I can find the off-topic channel?
[21:39] <KI7MT> [[thufir]]: there's lots of how too for that stack, here's one using MySQL: https://library.linode.com/email/postfix/postfix2.9.6-dovecot2.0.19-mysql
[21:39] <patarr> g0bl1n: sorry, VGA in caps
[21:39] <patarr> or -i to make it case insensitive like HoldenC said
[21:40] <ImNaN> Hi guys where I can find the off-topic channel?
[21:40] <g0bl1n> yes, I only get the motherboard integrated card :(
[21:40] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: me look for easiest setup
[21:40] <bazhang> !ot | ImNaN
[21:40] <g0bl1n> no ATI Radeon :(
[21:40] <ImNaN> thank you bazhang
[21:41] <g0bl1n> yet the fans are spinning...
[21:41] <KI7MT> [[thufir]]: me too, that one has good illustrations too :-)
[21:42] <slax0r> Hi, I'm trying to install 13.10 x64, but I have a problem right at the beginning, as the install boots up, actually already during the bootup, both the mouse and keyboard turn off, and remain so, if I unplug anything from the usb or plug it in, both kb and mouse come on, for 2-3 seconds, and then turn off again
[21:43] <GTB3NW> can anyone suggest an FTP client to me which is most similar to WinSCP?
[21:43] <ImNaN>  /ignore -channels #ubuntu,#ubuntu-offtopic * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[21:43] <GTB3NW> I'm struggling to find one which interface isn't trash and has decent integration
[21:44] <kostkon> GTAXL, filezilla maybe?
[21:44] <GTB3NW> I liked the fact in WinSCP you can hide local view
[21:44] <kostkon> damn
[21:44] <geirha> GTB3NW: Have you tried Nautilus?
[21:44] <g0bl1n> aticonfig: No supported adapters detected   damn...
[21:44] <kostkon> GTB3NW, ^
[21:44] <GTB3NW> and it integrated with putty, as in created a new session with my .ppk private key
[21:44] <g0bl1n> any hint on a ATI Radeon HD7870 ?
[21:44] <GTB3NW> I'm using xubuntu so naut isn't built in
[21:45] <GTB3NW> I'm not looking for so dead simple it only transfers functionality
[21:45] <GTB3NW> I need saved sessions and 1 click integration with putty/openssh
[21:46] <GTB3NW> I don't mind if it's strictly SFTP either, all the servers I connect to have ssh
[21:46] <KI7MT> GTB3NW: have a llok at the package called: secpanel .. simple yet capable ssh-ftp GUI
[21:46] <KI7MT> *look
[21:46] <GTB3NW> ty
[21:47] <GTB3NW> does it have any preview anywhere?
[21:47] <slax0r> http://themediahost.de/secpanel/
[21:47] <jhutchins> GTB3NW: scp+rsync and .ssh/config
[21:47] <geirha> GTB3NW: There's sshfs; a command that mounts a directory over ssh
[21:48] <KI7MT> GTB3NW: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/oneiric/secpanel/reviews/
[21:48] <RedstoneSheep_> hi. i want to install the latest tmux version (1.8.5 or stable: 1.8.4), but it's using  1.6-1ubuntu1. how can i tell dbkg to install the latest version?
[21:48] <GTB3NW> slax0r, can that convert .ppk on the fly?
[21:48] <jhutchins> geirha: Last I looked sshfs had stopped development, are they working on it again?
[21:48] <GTB3NW> jhutchins, might have to go down that root, any guides you know would set me going?
[21:49] <jhutchins> GTB3NW: Just the man pages.
[21:49] <jhutchins> GTB3NW: There are good and bad man pages, the ones for ssh are pretty good.
[21:49] <slax0r> GTB3NW: I have no idea, never used gui for such simple operations...
[21:49] <brontosaurusrex> GTB3NW, filezilla?
[21:49] <GTB3NW> haha I'm fairly capable of doing the commands, but when it comes to remember a list of servers, why not just use a GUI lol
[21:49] <geirha> jhutchins: Oh, didn't know that
[21:49] <GTB3NW> one click connect, easy :P
[21:50] <GTB3NW> brontosaurusrex, filezilla is trash
[21:50] <GTB3NW> for such a mature open source project, it sorely lacks features and functionality
[21:50] <GTB3NW> thanks for all the suggestions and help all
[21:50] <brontosaurusrex> GTB3NW, you requested two windows.
[21:51] <androidbruce> mirror doesn't support specified release
[21:51] <jhutchins> geirha: I don't know what the current status is, last time I looked they were using fish in kde3.5 for sshfs in fuse.
[21:51] <androidbruce> trying to install ubuntu 12.04 server
[21:51] <GTB3NW> brontosaurusrex, nah I didn't want local view
[21:51] <GTB3NW> that's what drag and drop is for haha
[21:52] <GTB3NW> I just can't understand why no one has created a winscp clone, at least design wise
[21:52] <GTB3NW> it's so straight forward and well designed -.-
[21:53] <jhutchins> GTB3NW: Mostly because nobody really needs a GUI to copy files.
[21:53] <ImNaN> GTB3NW, yeah WINSCP is a great sftp/ftp client
[21:53] <KI7MT> GTB3NW: GUI work ok, but once a person gets well in tune with CLI, there's little need for them :-)
[21:53] <androidbruce> anyone had experience using the us.archive.mirror
[21:53] <BluesKaj> redGod, sudo service pulseaudio restart
[21:53] <androidbruce> with server installs?
[21:53] <jhutchins> !mirrors
[21:54] <KI7MT> androidbruce: most people in us on a new install start off with that mirror, until they find one closer / faster ans switch over.
[21:54] <brontosaurusrex> GTB3NW, write down the features you are after exactly and perhaps post them to some pastebin, or keep complaining ...
[21:54] <ImNaN> KI7MT: only for script
[21:54] <ImNaN> *scripts
[21:54] <GTB3NW> brontosaurusrex, the list wasn't long, read up
[21:55] <geirha> GTB3NW: Oh well, you could always try running winscp with wine
[21:55] <GTB3NW> bookmarks, ability to hide local view, integration
[21:55] <jhutchins> KI7MT: Physical location is no indication of network latency.  Most of my local connections in KC go through Chicago or Dallas.
[21:55] <GTB3NW> hmm, might give it a shot
[21:55] <kostkon> GTB3NW, run winscp with wine? not sure whether drap n drop will work though
[21:56] <GTB3NW> I'd be happy with filezilla if it had a 1 click button to open a new ssh session with putty/openssh
[21:56] <GTB3NW> I could bare the local panel lol
[21:57] <RedstoneSheep_> I can't figure out why apt-get doesn't update to the latest tmux build. it only updates to 1.6-1ubuntu1. How can I tell it to use the latest version?
[21:57] <KI7MT> Just curious, but if Windows has all the tools you like to use, why switch to Linux .. semms more pain than gain.
[21:57] <ImNaN> RedstoneSheep_: apt-get update
[21:57] <kostkon> RedstoneSheep_, you can't, if it isn't available in the repos
[21:57] <GTB3NW> RedstoneSheep_, the repos must update as well
[21:58] <GTB3NW> if it's a new build, the repos may not have been updated yet
[21:58] <kostkon> RedstoneSheep_, try to find a ppa that offers that version
[21:58] <GTB3NW> ^
[21:58] <ImNaN> ^^
[21:58] <KI7MT> RedstoneSheep_: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[21:58] <xangua> !latest | RedstoneSheep_ GTB3NW
[21:59] <KI7MT> then as kostkon stated, either got to the source for latest, or PPA.
[21:59] <brontosaurusrex> GTB3NW, you use putty on linux?
[21:59] <GTB3NW> xangua, I know that, why did you ping me? lol
[21:59] <OerHeks> !info tmux
[21:59] <kostkon> !info putty
[21:59] <RedstoneSheep_> ubottu: there is a fix for an utf-8 bug that is really annoying me
[21:59] <GTB3NW> brontosaurusrex, I switch between windows and linux, I don't mind using openssh or putty, it does the same thing at the end of the day
[21:59] <kostkon> brontosaurusrex, it's available for linux too
[22:00] <GTB3NW> and I don't mind converting my ppk
[22:00] <GTB3NW> I just cba typing out the host everytime
[22:00] <brontosaurusrex> GTB3NW, why not just use some terminal and put your servers into aliases
[22:00] <GTB3NW> gotta remember the aliases
[22:00] <GTB3NW> I'd rather click a session name tbh haha
[22:01] <brontosaurusrex> the "alias" command will list them all
[22:01] <KI7MT> GTB3NW: you dont ave too .. simple one liner in your .bashrc and you can connect to one letter, setup ssh-keys abd you dont even need a passwd.
[22:01] <brontosaurusrex> KI7MT, ^
[22:01] <GTB3NW> Yeah only issue is I have multiple keys :P
[22:02] <kostkon> RedstoneSheep_, only managed to find this http://askubuntu.com/questions/273013/how-to-install-new-tmux-1-8-on-ubuntu-12-10-or-12-04
[22:02] <GTB3NW> found a superuser thread on aliasing with openssh
[22:02] <KI7MT> GTB3NW: I have like, Oh,,, 15 or 20 servers at least I conect to with this laptop .. key mamanagement is pretty somple really.
[22:02] <OerHeks> RedstoneSheep_, Tmux 1.8 would be the latest / Last Update: 2013-03-26
[22:02] <GTB3NW> gonna take a look at it, thanks for the suggestion
[22:02] <GTB3NW> can the alias contain the key as well?
[22:03] <RedstoneSheep_> OerHeks: yep. how would i tell dpkg to get that?
[22:03] <brontosaurusrex> GTB3NW, no, you install keys on the "system level"
[22:03] <OerHeks> RedstoneSheep_, run saucy and you would have that latest version
[22:03] <GTB3NW> ohhhh I see, you can specify the keys in the config
[22:03] <GTB3NW> didn't realize you could do that
[22:04] <GTB3NW> KI7MT, how do you list all your aliases?
[22:04] <brontosaurusrex> GTB3NW, alias could be "alias serv1='ssh user@server'"
[22:04] <GTB3NW> do you have some kind of output you could show me please?
[22:04] <KI7MT> GTB3NW: example of .bashrc: alias srv1='ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>.. all ya type in a terminal is srv1 with you keys setup, no log in necessary.
[22:06] <brontosaurusrex> GTB3NW, alias examples (that i just happen to have on this machine) http://paste.debian.net/plain/72385
[22:06] <GTB3NW> I understand aliases, you're talking about something different to what I thought you meant
[22:06] <GTB3NW> openssh actually has a config for aliases
[22:07] <dekiss> can I search the contents of the files for some string?
[22:07] <brontosaurusrex> dekiss, grep -i string file.txt
[22:07] <KI7MT> GTB3NW: I've actually written my own scripts, using Dialog to manage them, but is all you wnat is the list, jsut grep .bashrc or have you alias's in a seperate file that .bashrc sources.
[22:08] <brontosaurusrex> GTB3NW, just "alias" will list them all
[22:08] <GTB3NW> hmm could do yeah
[22:08] <GTB3NW> brontosaurusrex, yeah but I'd have to grep that
[22:09] <GTB3NW> someone has a nice ruby script for the official ssh aliases
[22:09] <brontosaurusrex> "alias | grep -i something" should work.
[22:09] <dekiss> brontosaurusrex I mean, I need to search for one string in all files in one folder and in all subfolders of that folder
[22:11] <pieces029> If I have ssh running on a different port, is there a way to access it with something similar url rewrites to make it invisible?
[22:11] <GTB3NW> that's really quite annoying it doesn't have any built in functionality to list ssh aliases :/
[22:11] <KI7MT> GTB3NW: lots of ways to grep is, something like: cat ./.bashrc |grep alias |awk '{print $2'}
[22:11] <GTB3NW> pieces029, currently on the subject of aliases, look at those ;)
[22:11] <brontosaurusrex> dekiss, grep -i string ./*
[22:11] <Balzy> quick question: how do I grep a flag? I mean I must find in a long help generated by a binary the line which describes the -R flag
[22:12] <brontosaurusrex> assuming you want to search this folder and subfolders
[22:12] <pieces029> GTB3NW, like command line aliases?
[22:12] <KI7MT> *|awk '{print $2}'
[22:12] <GTB3NW> nah ssh alias
[22:12] <Balzy> how do I tell grep to look for "-R" ?
[22:12] <GTB3NW> ~/.ssh/config
[22:12] <pieces029> GTB3NW, Ok I'll check it out, thanks
[22:12] <dekiss> this will do ?grep -I "test" /var/x/
[22:12] <GTB3NW> you're welcome
[22:12] <brontosaurusrex> dekiss, grep -I "test" /var/x/*
[22:13] <dekiss> -I is 100% sure to check only for bynaries files or it makes mistakes?
[22:13] <brontosaurusrex> dekiss, no idea
[22:13] <dekiss> brontosaurusrex I must put * at the end?
[22:13] <geirha> Balzy: -e -R
[22:13] <dekiss> ok thanks!
[22:13] <Balzy> geirha thanks!
[22:14] <pieces029> GTB3NW, OH so it's something I would have to do on a per machine basis?  Nothing I could put on the server that says oh, your looking for domain.x and silently routes it differently?
[22:14] <GTB3NW> not sure tbh, you could tunnel it if you have another server?
[22:15] <GTB3NW> does ssh have srv record support?
[22:15] <pieces029> Actually that's what I'm doing.  I have another server behind a firewall so I use ssh reverse port binding to tunnel it out.  I was hoping to get something setup so I don't have to rember the port or anything just give it a domain name.
[22:16] <GTB3NW> if it does, you could check that
[22:16] <GTB3NW> https://gist.github.com/taylor/1372925
[22:16] <brontosaurusrex> dekiss, uhm, actually it seems you need to use -r or -R for recursive search, give me a sec ...
[22:16] <pieces029> GTB3NW, Ok, thanks I'll keep looking around see if I can find anything.
[22:16] <GTB3NW> pieces029, ^
[22:16] <GTB3NW> setup a srv record, that will work
[22:17] <KI7MT> pieces029: write a simple connect scritp for the second link, but secure the permissions to like 600 or somethign to prevent abuse in case the server is compromised.
[22:17] <GTB3NW> not sure how that works tbh, do your research :)
[22:18] <dekiss> can i configure grep to show me exactly on which lines in the files the string was found?
[22:19] <KI7MT> dekiss: grep -in nullsomefile.txt  ... -n indicates line numbers.
[22:20] <orogor> hi
[22:21] <pieces029> GTB3NW, Is that link meant to be run on the server or the client?
[22:21] <GTB3NW> pieces029, no idea
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> pieces029: you can use http://freedns.afraid.org/ to bind a dynamic ip to a domain name
[22:21] <GTB3NW> looks like openssh doesn't support srv records by default
[22:21] <dekiss> grep -I 'id="something' aaa/* is this ok for searching for " ?
[22:21] <dekiss> how can I escape " ?
[22:22] <hitsujiTMO> dekiss: \"
[22:22] <dekiss> thanks
[22:22] <prsteele> Anyone have experience getting Upstart to run custom sessions?
[22:23] <KI7MT> dekiss: echo "\"test\":\"some-other-test\"" |grep -e "more-test\""
[22:23] <PDilyard> ubuntu 12.04 keeps freezing. the mouse doesnt move, the clock doesnt change, and ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt do anything. i've tried proprietary and open-source graphics drivers, and the same thing was happening in 13.10
[22:24] <KI7MT> prsteele: custom sessions?
[22:24] <PDilyard> it usually happens when i have programs open in multiple workspaces, especially playing music in one workspace while working in another
[22:24] <PDilyard> but i havent noticed any specific parameters as to when it happens (it seems random)
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> dekiss: you can also use '' for strings with no magic. echo '"test":"some-other-test"' |grep -e 'more-test"'
[22:25] <prsteele> KI7MT: yes, as in a login session... So instead of launching unity or gnome, launching, say, XMonad
[22:25] <jason__> ?
[22:25] <prsteele> launching isn't the problem -- its launching it while the line 'xmonad' is in /etc/upstart-sessions
[22:25] <orogor> anyone has an idea on the memory usage there ? http://pastebin.com/QqmwWcLN
[22:26] <hitsujiTMO> prsteele: upstart has nothing to do with that. thats handled by the display manager (lightdm by default)
[22:26] <dekiss> ok
[22:27] <KI7MT> prsteele: Im not sure that's an upstart thing more so a display manager config item.
[22:27] <adas> hi! I'm trying to install ubuntu server using a usb-stick. I get this message on the computer "there was a problem reading data from the cd-rom. please make sure it is in the driveQ
[22:27] <dekiss> grep -I "bbb" aaa/*
[22:27] <dekiss> for some reason this is not searching subflders, how to search subfolders too?
[22:27] <dekiss> all folders in the folder aaa
[22:28] <orogor> on 8gb there s only 256M free with maybe 2gb of resident memory for apps and 1gb of cache
[22:28] <dekiss> ah
[22:28] <dekiss> -r
  have u booted from the usb or cdrom
[22:28] <dekiss> :)
[22:28] <dekiss> thanks all
[22:28] <FloodBot1> dekiss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:28] <hitsujiTMO> adas: what did you use to create the usb and have you verified the iso you downloaded?
[22:28] <adas> "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6625861/
[22:28] <adas> unetbootin
[22:29] <trism> hitsujiTMO: KI7MT lightdm spawns upstart for many of the user sessions now
[22:29] <adas> hitsujiTMO: how to verify, i got same problem with ubuntu server 12.04 and 13.10
[22:30] <prsteele> so perhaps I need to ask a different question. I would like to be able to start upstart session jobs, but it seems that I need to be running an upstart session to do so
[22:30] <adas> i tried with unetbootin and dd
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> adas if its more than one iso then its prob not the iso. how old is the system?
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> trism: realy? in what capacity and why? Still what he's asking for has nothing to do with upstart and is handled by the DM config
[22:31] <rigatoni> Anyone familiar with VNC? When using a browser, the scrolling is painfully slow. Lots of lag. If I decrease color depth to 8 bits from 16, it is more normal. Is this how VNC is or is there a way to fix this?
[22:31] <adas> hitsujiTMO: 2012?
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO> adas: can you try toggling the "legacy usb support" in your bios menu
[22:32] <ImNaN> Is 13.04 LTS ?
[22:32] <prsteele> So, anyone have experience getting 'start foo' to run, when foo is defined by ~/.config/upstart/foo.conf ?
[22:32] <orogor> rigatoni, check bandwith usage maybe down or upload is maxed
[22:32] <adas> hitsujiTMO:  i get to the installation, i chose language, keyboard input, but when the installation starts i get this error
[22:33] <adas> hitsujiTMO: the computer finds the usb
[22:33] <KI7MT> ImNaN: no .. 12.04 and soon to be 14.04 are LTS
[22:33] <hitsujiTMO> adas: may ber an issue with that usb device. have you tried another?
[22:33] <rigatoni> orogor, how would l do that? Like run a speedtest.net test?
[22:33] <adas> hitsujiTMO: tried 4 different
[22:33] <PDilyard> ubuntu 12.04 keeps freezing. the mouse doesnt move, the clock doesnt change, and ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt do anything. i've tried proprietary and open-source graphics drivers, and the same thing was happening in 13.10
[22:33] <PDilyard> it usually happens when i have programs open in multiple workspaces, especially playing music in one workspace while working in another
[22:33] <PDilyard> ubuntu 12.04 keeps freezing. the mouse doesnt move, the clock doesnt change, and ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt do anything. i've tried proprietary and open-source graphics drivers, and the same thing was happening in 13.10
[22:34] <PDilyard> oops double post
[22:34] <KI7MT> ImNaN: more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> adas: thats a bit of an odd problem then.
[22:35] <Beldar> PDilyard, Have you checked if the memory is being swapped?
[22:35] <adas> hitsujiTMO: i found this, will look through, http://cirrus.ucsd.edu/~pierce/fix_ubuntu_usb/
[22:36] <hitsujiTMO> adas: if you run out of ideas and you have a rooted android phone then i'd try using DriveDroid
[22:36] <PDilyard> Beldar, no...how do i do that?
[22:36] <tadas_> irc.myp2p-network.eu
[22:36] <adas> hitsujiTMO: aigh, thanks
[22:37] <tadas_> irc.p2p-network.eu
[22:37] <tadas_> shit
[22:37] <tadas_> sorry
[22:37] <Beldar> PDilyard, I have a conky that shows the swap when I actually have a swap, hold on let me google that for you.
[22:38] <rigatoni> orogor, 32MB down, 24MB up
[22:38] <PDilyard> Beldar: i'd google it myself, im just not really sure about what terminology i would be searching for
[22:38] <jhutchins> adas: Which image are you using?
[22:38] <adas> jhutchins: ubuntu-12.04.3-server-amd64.iso
[22:39] <hitsujiTMO> prsteele: what's the output of: echo $XDG_CONFIG_HOME
[22:39] <prsteele> hitujiTO: not set
[22:39] <Beldar> PDilyard, In general you will swap when you reach about 60% of use of the memory, this can be changed to be a higher point however. I'm not sure how to check if and when it's swapping I have just had it as part of a conky.
[22:40] <trism> prsteele: what are you trying to do exactly? create a new desktop session? I haven't tried one from scratch yet, but I was thinkin' of trying an awesome one
[22:40] <jhutchins> adas: Do you have a working linux system?
[22:40] <adas> yes
[22:40] <prsteele> trism: I just switched to XMonad, and it works. Now I want to be able to do, e.g., 'start trayer; start nm-applet' to get daemons running
[22:41] <PDilyard> Beldar: so what you think is happening is that it's swapping the memory for unity and all the programs over to the hard drive, and therefore freezing?
[22:41] <prsteele> trism: however, it seems the only way I can define 'session jobs' is to have upstart manage the sessions
[22:41] <Beldar> PDilyard, When you start to swap things slow down greatly is all.
[22:41] <glitsj16> prsteele: what version of ubuntu are you trying to get the upstart user sessions going? i believe saucy has it by default but for raring i had to uncomment the only line i had in /etc/upstart-xsessions and re-login
[22:41] <adas> jhutchins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6625928/ i found this, but the solutions in there doesnt work for me
[22:41] <ColdKeyboard> I have started ath5k module with nohwcrypt and no_hw_rfkill_switch, and now my wifi card is "working" except that iwlist scanning returns "wlan0 No scan results". How can I fix this?
[22:42] <ColdKeyboard> btw there are wifi networks around
[22:42] <jhutchins> PDilyard: How much ram do you have?
[22:42] <trism> prsteele: oh, the way the default one does this is to have gnome-session.conf emit desktop-start on post-start and then scripts can start on desktop-start
[22:42] <PDilyard> jhutchins: 8 gb
[22:42] <prsteele> ubuntu 13.04
[22:42] <jhutchins> adas: You can check the md5sum of the USB drive - should match the iso, which should match the posted sum on the repo.
[22:43] <PDilyard> Beldar: well this isnt just slowing down, its stopping entirely. nothing works
[22:43] <trism> prsteele: likewise it emits desktop-end on pre-stop and jobs can stop on that
[22:43] <SplasH> Hi, I tried to modify my sources with synaptic, but it crashed. After that I can't use apt anymore. apt-get update finishes without any message and in the log I find: apt-get[4133]: segfault at .... error 4 in libapt-pkg.so.4.12.0  I restored the sources.lst, reinstalled libapt-pkg, but apt still does not work. What can I do?
[22:43] <Beldar> PDilyard, Try setting the swappiness to abut 10 this link tells you how. http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness
[22:43] <PDilyard> Beldar: i cant even recover to a terminal
[22:43] <prsteele> trism: that's what I was thinking. However, if I add xmonad to /etc/upstart-sessions, it hangs
[22:43] <adas> jhutchins: ok, ill do it tomorrow, have to sleep, thanks for help, goodnight
[22:43] <OerHeks> ColdKeyboard, disable N most of the times works
[22:43] <mh58541> does anyone know how to install Kwin in ubuntu 13.10\
[22:43] <glitsj16> prsteele: http://ifdeflinux.blogspot.be/2013/04/upstart-user-sessions-in-ubuntu-raring.html is where i found that for raring
[22:43] <trism> prsteele: oh I thought you said the session worked
[22:43] <Beldar> PDilyard, how much memory do you have?
[22:43] <PDilyard> Beldar: 8 gb
[22:44] <prsteele> trism: the session works when I don't have xmonad in /etc/upstart-sessions
[22:44] <trism> prsteele: I meant, I thought you had it working with upstart
[22:44] <prsteele> trism: nope, that's what I'm trying to get done
[22:44] <Beldar> PDilyard, May not be swappiness then, really depends on how much your using the memory, you can install htop and runhtop in the terminal and see how much is being used.
[22:44] <trism> prsteele: okay, again I haven't tried it yet, I am going to try a simple one now, if you're still around in a bit I'll get back to you
[22:45] <prsteele> trism: fantastic, thanks
[22:45] <hans__> whitch irc program is the easest
[22:45] <hans__> or the best in use
[22:45] <jhutchins> PDilyard: You should not be swapping then.
[22:45] <prsteele> hans__: I use ERC in Emacs, if you know emacs
[22:45] <jhutchins> PDilyard: top and free can show you how much RAM is used for what.
[22:45] <PDilyard> jhutchins: so can i disable it altogether?
[22:45] <Beldar> PDilyard, That link does give you the free -m command to check the swappiness.
[22:46] <PDilyard> yep, im looking there now
[22:46] <jhutchins> PDilyard: If you run top and see the swap numbers changing you know you're swapping.
[22:46] <jhutchins> PDilyard: It's good to have a couple of G available, but you shouldn't be using it.
[22:46] <PDilyard> swap says used is 0
[22:46] <jhutchins> PDilyard: The object is to keep things from crashing if you get low on RAM, but with 8G that should be hard to do.
[22:46] <jhutchins> PDilyard: As expected.
[22:47] <PDilyard> well im only running a couple text editors, music player, xchat, thunderbird, and chrome
[22:47] <PDilyard> nothing to taxing
[22:47] <PDilyard> too*
[22:47] <jhutchins> PDilyard: The next thing to suspect when it's a lockup-after-time is a thermal problem.  Do you have a temperature conky?
[22:47] <PDilyard> no
[22:48] <jhutchins> PDilyard: Might look into that, or just tear the thing down and clean it well.
[22:48] <PDilyard> jhutchins: so you dont think it was swap causing the problem?
[22:48] <jhutchins> Very unlikely.
[22:49] <Beldar> PDilyard, Yeah starting with using a conky to check this stuff might be helpful, the memroy use swap and temperatures. Did you load the lm-sensors?
[22:50] <PDilyard> the only problem is that once it freezes i cant really do any of these things
[22:50] <ColdKeyboard> OerHeks: I'm sorry, what do you mean by that?
[22:50] <Beldar> PDilyard, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[22:51] <Diamondcite> PDilyard: Can you test your system thermal stability with Memtest86+ ?
[22:52] <Diamondcite> If it's going to overheat, a memory test for a few hours would do it...
[22:52] <rigatoni> Is it normal for a VNC connection to lag quite a bit with higher color depth? I'm noticing browser scrolling is slow with 16 bit but smooth on 8 bit. Anyway to improve this?
[22:52] <Diamondcite> rigatoni: How fast is the network connection?
[22:53] <KI7MT> rigatoni: bigger pipes, shorter distances is about all I'd think.
[22:53] <rigatoni> Diamondcite on the client desktop its 32mb down and 26mb up. On my local connection it's about 20mb down and 4mb up
[22:53] <PDilyard> so are you guys saying to just install temperature monitoring software, and watch it for a few hours of use?
[22:53] <rigatoni> KI7MT, so prob just a network speed thing then?
[22:54] <Beldar> PDilyard, I think it is a knock out the possibilities at this point.
[22:54] <PDilyard> Diamondcite, Beldar, jhutchins: right now im at 14.2 deg celcius
[22:54] <rigatoni> KI7MT data transfer
[22:54] <KI7MT> rigatoni: more thatn likely, if your quality imporves as you lower resolution.
[22:55] <rigatoni> KI7MT, got it. I was hoping there was something in the settings, but that makes the most sense. Thanks for the info!
[22:55] <Diamondcite> rigatoni: VNC eats a ton of CPU and upload speed when doing higher bit depth.. (Resultion matters too), consider doing a test over a fast lan connection?
[22:55] <KI7MT> rigatoni: data transfer via the desktop not the best choice really. ssh, rsynz, zsync, ftp etc are much better ways to go.
[22:55] <Beldar> PDilyard, I'm at 29 C but I have a laptop on a game cooling pad and have very little running, I have to wonder if that is an accurate number.
[22:56] <KI7MT> *rsync
[22:56] <PDilyard> Beldar: this was my output from running "sensors"
[22:56] <PDilyard> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6625997/
[22:56] <Diamondcite> My tower's CPU is running at 35C right now, averages at 72C under normal circumstances (Distributed computing)
[22:56] <rigatoni> KI7MT, oh this is actually to control the remote desktop, not to transfer files.
[22:57] <rigatoni> Diamondcite, thanks for the tip. I'll try a lower resolution and see if that helps
[22:57] <Beldar> PDilyard, Should be more sensors showing, if a fairly newer computer did you load the lm-sensors and answer yes to all when run?
[22:58] <PDilyard> Beldar: yep
[22:58] <PDilyard> its only a 2 year old machine
[23:00] <Beldar> PDilyard, I think basically what we have done is just consider some of the possibilities, in the end maybe others here will have other ideas, I would loo on the web with that exact model and hardware for others with this same problems on the releases you have tried.
[23:00] <Beldar> look*
[23:00] <g0bl1n> lspci won't show my Radeon HD7870... Any additional test one can do ?
[23:00] <PDilyard> Beldar: i installed PSensor from the software center and its showing 16C from "temp1"
[23:01] <PDilyard> sometimes goes up to 20
[23:01] <Diamondcite> PDilyard: Err I can't see to find it.. what was your problem that you are experiencing again?
[23:02] <Diamondcite> 16C is unusually cold...
[23:02] <Beldar> PDilyard, sure, you understand that we have to somewhat guess here right? the senors may be accurate or they may be off, you may be swapping you may not be.
[23:02] <PDilyard> Diamondcite: every so often, everything freezes. the mouse doesnt move, the clock doesnt change, and ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt do anything
[23:02] <Diamondcite> (For the longest time I've been using gkrell as a very light weight(cpu wise) system monitor.
[23:02] <PDilyard> Beldar: yeah i totally understand. i really appreciate your help!
[23:02] <Diamondcite> PDilyard: Stays frozen?
[23:02] <PDilyard> Diamondcite: yep
[23:03] <Beldar> PDilyard, Cool, hope you get it resolved.
[23:03] <Diamondcite> PDilyard: Could you ping or SSH in?
[23:03] <PDilyard> have not tried that yet, sorry
[23:03] <Diamondcite> Okay. which graphics do you have? AMD(ATI)? Intel? NVidia?
[23:04] <PDilyard> amd
[23:04] <Diamondcite> Someone else might answer Adurino..
[23:04] <Diamondcite> I don't know if it applies to your case anymore..
[23:04] <Diamondcite> Years ago, my graphic driver would crash in mid use, causing me to freeze.
[23:05] <PDilyard> Diamondcite: although im getting nvidia 650 for christmas
[23:05] <PDilyard> lol
[23:05] <PDilyard> maybe i should just let it go until then, and see what happens when i have the new graphics card?
[23:05] <Diamondcite> I had XID freezes on a NV GF4Ti and a GF6200.
[23:06] <Diamondcite> You have two options for graphics.
[23:06] <PDilyard> that would be an easy possibility to cross off the list if the problem continued after new gfx card
[23:06] <Diamondcite> If the radeon driver doesn't work, try the Catalyst ones.. or vice versa
[23:07] <Diamondcite> This tower I am on isn't ubuntu.. but it gives an example.. cause flash player is buggy.. running flash player in 32bit chroot , cause my X to crash and I need to login again.
[23:08] <PDilyard> http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx
[23:08] <PDilyard> should i try this?
[23:08] <Diamondcite> PDilyard: That is up to you, anything goes ^_^
[23:09] <PDilyard> Diamondcite: haha ok
[23:09] <necrogami> with iptables can i route traffic on my local machine that would goto x.x.x.x to y.y.y.y instead?
[23:10] <PDilyard> Diamondcite: forgot to mention, this has happened with both open source and proprietary drivers
[23:11] <trism> prsteele: here is a basic working one for awesome, probably just a quick substitution to get it working for xmonad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6626080/
[23:12] <KI7MT> necrogami: yes, but you need to study up on the rules needed, not a 2 minute discussion for sure.
[23:12] <prsteele> trism: wow, thanks!
[23:12] <prsteele> trism: any inuition on the last line, or did you just copy from gnome-session.conf?
[23:13] <PDilyard> wait...how do i actually make the proprietary driver "in use"
[23:13] <PDilyard> http://imgur.com/uwRg0wI
[23:13] <necrogami> KI7MT, thanks yeah ill go do that wanted to make sure it was doable before i just dove into it. I'm going to build 2 scripts home/away so i can add/remove the iptables rule so i can access the server from home and away (It has local lan and public ip's associated to it and on lan i can't access the public ip for some reason)
[23:13] <PDilyard> Diamondcite: ^^
[23:13] <trism> prsteele: it calls the dbus method on upstart EndSession when the awesome binary exits
[23:14] <trism> prsteele: to clean up the user init I imagine, and yes copied from the gnome-session one
[23:14] <prsteele> trism: great, hopefully this works
[23:14] <prsteele> trism: Its good to know if works for awesome though -- if it doesn't work for xmonad, its probably xmonad...
[23:14] <KI7MT> necrogami: there are lots of how-too's for iptable routing .. simple google search produced 100's :-)
[23:14] <necrogami> :)
[23:15] <PDilyard> Diamondcite: and also, im up to 35C while running the "searching for drivers" process
[23:15] <trism> prsteele: let me know if it doesn't, we can try to figure it out, I just already have awesome installed, though I am a haskell fan
[23:16] <prsteele> trism: will do! this will probably require exiting IRC for now though
[23:17] <prsteele> trism: just to double check: you added awesome to the /etc/upstart-sessions file?
[23:17] <g0bl1n> PDilyard, which Radeon is it ?
[23:17] <trism> prsteele: yep, and the awesome.conf to ~/.config/upstart/
[23:17] <g0bl1n> PDilyard, how is it connected to the motherboard ? 6pin connector ? dual ?
[23:18] <PDilyard> g0bl1n: Radeon HD 6530D...it came with the computer
[23:18] <KI7MT> PDilyard: bare in mind, unless the code for the sensors is written by the HW MFG, there' a margin or error expected, from minor to completely unreliable.
[23:19] <PDilyard> KI7MT: you're talking about temperature?
[23:19] <sudormrf> hello all! I am looking to receive notifications whenever someone logs in to my server, makes changes on the server, someone port scans, etc.  The server has only one NIC.  Would Snort be something I should look in to or should I be looking elswhere?
[23:19] <PDilyard> my cpu usage is at 40% now that i have 2 instances of sublime text open, xchat, and a few chromium tabs
[23:20] <KI7MT> PDilyard: temps, speeds. clock rates, the full range really.
[23:20] <PDilyard> KI7MT: gotcha
[23:20] <sudormrf> Maybe Nagios?
[23:20] <PDilyard> KI7MT: is that cpu usage normal do you think?
[23:21] <gordonjcp> sudormrf: got a pad of post-it notes?
[23:21] <Viking667> hey, I'm noticing an issue with my 13.10 ubuntu desktop system. If I leave it for longer than a certain time, it suspends, but can't come back out of resume, requiring a powercycle to fix. What app in Settings do I need to check for that?
[23:21] <KI7MT> lm-sensors is pretty good overall. it's hard to compare BIOS data with SW / FW in the OS space so it's hard to calculate the bias needed for each item.
[23:21] <Kamuela> Done is better than perfect.
[23:22] <sudormrf> gordonjcp, sarcasm?
[23:22] <PDilyard> and chromium is using the most processing power according to htop
[23:22] <gordonjcp> sudormrf: you could try writing "Someone is trying to log in as root" on one and sticking it to your monitor
[23:22] <gordonjcp> sudormrf: it will be entirely accurate, all day
[23:22] <sudormrf> gordonjcp, thanks for nothing.
[23:22] <sudormrf> If someone has something constructive to suggest, please do. :).
[23:22] <gordonjcp> sudormrf: the broader point I'm trying to make is that it's kind of pointless monitoring that
[23:23] <PDilyard> KI7MT, g0bl1n, Diamondcite: here's htop's output http://i.imgur.com/C2bXDhb.png
[23:23] <gordonjcp> sudormrf: just assume it's going on, and take steps to harden up your server against it
[23:23] <sudormrf> gordonjcp, pointless as it may be, would Snort be the answer or should I be looking at something else?
[23:23] <sudormrf> gordonjcp, that is the assumption I already take.
[23:23] <KI7MT> Viking667: pm-utils and gnome-power-manager are the tools to look into.
[23:24] <gordonjcp> snort is pretty good
[23:24] <PDilyard> yeah once i exited chromium my cpu usage went WAY down
[23:24] <Viking667> KI7MT: thanks.
[23:25] <sudormrf> gordonjcp, would it be an issue to run it on a machine with only one NIC? or should I run it on another machine?
[23:25] <gordonjcp> sudormrf: no idea, I've never really used it
[23:25] <gordonjcp> I looked into it but it's just not something I found useful
[23:26] <PDilyard> interesting, firefox is using far less cpu power than chromium, with the same tabs open
[23:27] <KI7MT> PDilyard: couple other apps, SAR and SYSTAT can give you a couple more tools to drill down on CPU usage.
[23:28] <PDilyard> hmm alright thanks guys
[23:28] <prsteele> alright, here it goes...
[23:28] <Viking667> hm. Weird. Okay.
[23:29] <Viking667> I'm off...
[23:30] <prsteele> trism: and everyone else: your conf file worked. I'm not sure what I was doing wrong before, but thanks!
[23:30] <trism> prsteele: excellent
[23:32] <wenbria> I used to have this command that would allow me to connect my electric guitar and hear in the speaker what I play. works ok but I lost the command and I don't remember it, what can I do?
[23:34] <orogor> wenbria, it did anything more than unmute the mic
[23:34] <orogor> ?
[23:35] <wenbria> yes
[23:35] <glitsj16> wenbria: the command might still be in your ~/.bash_history with any luck
[23:35] <wenbria> orogor: yes
[23:39] <wenbria> could it be this?
[23:39] <wenbria> pactl load-module module-loopback latency_msec=1
[23:39] <kostkon> wenbria, yes
[23:41] <orogor> i did swapoff -a , made the summ of rss from ps -e, got 2Gb of ram used by apps, free -m shows 1GB for cache+buffer and 6.6gb of memory used
[23:41] <orogor> anyone would knows why the number don t seems to add up ?
[23:45] <Beldar> orogor, http://askubuntu.com/questions/223759/how-to-read-correctly-free-m-output
[23:45] <g0bl1n> how can one see the logs from the PC booting up ? Can't see my HD7870 listed in lspci
[23:46] <nicofs> Is "ssh user@domain.tld:1337" the correct syntax if "domain.tld" points to my router's IP and there, 1337 is a port forwarding to the specific device in my network? what kind of forwarding do i need? does anyone know?
[23:46] <Guest37405> I have recently installed Lubuntu 13.10 x64, but cannot get any sound output through HDMI, using Radeon HD 4250 graphics.  I searched the web for this and tried using the 'radeon.audio=1' kernel parameter, but with no effect.  Any suggestions?
[23:47] <nicofs> to be more precise, :1337 forwards to device:22
[23:51] <timposey> Hello all, I have a new install 13.10 system, giving video problems so I pulled the pci video card an using the one on the main board.  I get video fine but keyboard does not work or have power, the mouse lights up but it is like the drivers for these are not installing
[23:51] <timposey> Before I had the problem with video and pulled the card everything was working fine.
[23:56] <teryio> hii
[23:56] <kostkon> teryio, hi
[23:59] <GTB3NW> anyone aware how to disable file transfers in skype on linux?
[23:59] <GTB3NW> just managed to send a private key over skype trying to copy and paste text :)
[23:59] <GTB3NW> thanks microsoft!