[09:16] <bonez46> gnr: I checked the listing and my board is not yet supported..
[09:16] <fryguy> unhackmee: ps, top, htop should give you everything you need
[09:16] <Rigongia> ^Cub : does it give any error message before going to busybox ?
[09:16] <lstarnes> unhackmee: system > administration > system monitor
[09:16] <unhackmee> thanks fryguy
[09:16] <Severian> unhackmee, type at the terminal prompt     ps aux
[09:16] <^Cub> Rigongia: No
[09:16] <fryguy> Severian: you should recomend ef as paraemeters instead of aux
[09:17] <gnr> bonez46: that's the only native bios utility in linux... else you have to use freedos/windows utility
[09:17] <Severian> fryguy, I am not argueing against your suggestion.  I just want to know why.  Does aux pose some threat?
[09:18] <Rigongia> ^Cub : just to make sure ... you hit esc to ensure that the eee-pc booted off the usb portable hdd, right ?
[09:18] <^Cub> yes
[09:18] <^Cub> @ Rigongia
[09:18] <fryguy> Severian: ef is POSIX compliant, aux is not.  knowing ef becomes handy if you ever decide to use other *nix systems
[09:18] <sup3rs3nior> http://pastebin.com/m57b8976e
[09:18] <bonez46> gnr: that's the thing.. I think I found the specific windows bios files.. for my mobo.. but I run ubuntu and thus.. can't run . I guess I need to boot up win xp somehow and then run it?
[09:18] <sup3rs3nior> Did i do that right?
[09:18] <fryguy> Severian: actually used it to catch a hacker once at a previous company i worked at
[09:18] <Severian> fryguy, OK.  That is a good reason.  Thanks.
[09:19] <themad> I have a problem with xubuntu 9.04. The mouse is invisible! I can move it, click, open applications with it, but I don't accually see mouse pointer, so I don't know where it is.
[09:19] <themad> I hope, that someone can help.
[09:19] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: and netstat -l?
[09:19] <Rigongia> ^Cub : i'm sorry but at the moment i can't think of anything that could cause your problem. If anything comes into my mind i'm gonna let you know
[09:19] <gartral> themad: try switching your pointer graphics
[09:19] <gnr> bonez46: you can try windows bart pe live cd or any freedos utility from ubcd
[09:19] <ycmarvin> hello im trying to install ubuntu now, on the partition part, how many should i allocate for the EFI boot
[09:19] <themad> gartral: i tried to, but there is no change.
[09:20] <fryguy> ycmarvin: is there a default
[09:20] <bonez46> gnr. thanks..
[09:20] <gartral> themad: on all desktop managers?
[09:20] <sup3rs3nior> http://pastebin.com/d520b7fbe
[09:20] <^Cub> Rigongia: thanks, i'll keep trying at it. If you think of something either highlight me with the message or send me a memo
[09:20] <ubuntu> oops
[09:21] <ubuntu> sorry for quit/rejoin
[09:21] <themad> gartral: on gnome it works fine, but on gnome i have resolution problem ;) beside xfce is better for my celeron 1.6M ;)
[09:21] <Rigongia> ^Cub : i see that the guide says it's for eeepc-900 ... do you have another eeepc ? or maybe (just guessing) you downloaded the wrong iso file ?
[09:21] <ycmarvin> fryguy: no, did not see one. I'm doing this dual boot, my hd is 80GB half for XP, 250MB on swap
[09:21] <q0_0p> anyone here can help me getting gforce mx420 working?
[09:21] <cryingtux> hi
[09:21] <Rigongia> q0_op : please explain better what your problem is
[09:22] <Rigongia> hi cryingtux :)
[09:22] <q0_0p> i installed drivers from nvidia site and it only lets me run in low graphics mode
[09:22] <cryingtux> how do i cancel pending jobs in an hp printer?
[09:22] <cryingtux> i cant locate them
[09:22] <^Cub> Rigongia: i have the eeepc 900A
[09:22] <gartral> themad: i ve a 1.7 celeron, and i run nome+compiz with ALL the bells and whisles, and see at most 20% proc usage
[09:22] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: what is the IP of the windows machine?
[09:22] <Rigongia> ^Cub : and the exact name of the iso file you downloaded is ... ?
[09:23] <q0_0p> on top of that my mouse seems to lag
[09:23] <sup3rs3nior> on my local network i set it to be <IP_ADDRESS> but perhaps the router disagrees?
[09:23] <^Cub> EasyPeasy-1.1.iso @ Rigongia
[09:23] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: ... you have 2 machines with the same IP at the same time?
[09:23] <themad> gartral: but i prefer XFCE. do you know how can i make it work?
[09:23] <sup3rs3nior> set as in when i configured the server..
[09:23] <gartral> themad: anyway, it sounds like xfce is missing some packages
[09:23] <cryingtux> im looking for the web interface to cancel those jobs
[09:23] <q0_0p> im downloading envyng; just hoping it works
[09:23] <Rigongia> cryingtux : you have at least two choices ... easiest (in my opinion) is to open your browser at the address http://localhost:631 and cancel them from there
[09:24] <sup3rs3nior> i shouldnt, that was the ip of the box before i installed linux but none of my linux boxes show up in the routers list..
[09:24] <themad> gartral: on #xfce channel i was told that its xorg fault
[09:24] <gartral> themad: not entirly sure, i dont use XFCE, it takes too much ram
[09:24] <pooky_> Ok! it works!
[09:24] <gartral> themad: try E16 :)
[09:24] <pooky_> Thank you to, Jimmyjh! Fryguy, and Servian!
[09:24] <cryingtux> Rigongia: thanks, i was looking for that
[09:24] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: can the linux machine reach the internet?
[09:25] <Rigongia> ^Cub : have you got a cd-rw at hand, so you can try to burn the cd and boot from there instead of the portable hdd ?
[09:25] <sup3rs3nior> what is a good way of checking if it can reach the internet?
[09:25] <themad> right.
[09:25] <sup3rs3nior> wget maybe?
[09:25] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: ping google.com
[09:25] <jimmyjh> no problem Pooky
[09:25] <sup3rs3nior> oh
[09:25] <jimmyjh> Pooky, you got ekiga?
[09:25] <sup3rs3nior> UNKNOWN wow i see now..
[09:25] <jimmyjh> you can add me ifyou like "jimmyjh"
[09:26] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: did you define a gateway?
[09:26] <^Cub> Rigongia: i would.. but EeePc's don't have a CD Drive :/
[09:26] <sup3rs3nior> i attempted to.. but i think i did it wrong..
[09:26] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: /etc/network/interfaces
[09:26] <whatvn> ^Cub: boot from a usb
[09:26] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: it should be set to <IP_ADDRESS> unless you have a strange network topology
[09:27] <^Cub> Rigongia: I'll see what I can find. brb
[09:27] <Rigongia> whatvn : cub's trying to boot from a usb hdd, but ubuntu goes into busybox
[09:27] <elfgoh> Any idea how to see which apache modules are loaded for Ubuntu apache server? No php installed
[09:27] <sup3rs3nior> accidentally had it as <IP_ADDRESS> - do i need to restart it now?
[09:27] <cryingtux> Rigongia: do we have kde 4.2.3 now in repos?
[09:28] <Rigongia> cryingtux : let me check
[09:28] <fryguy> elfgoh:  apachectl -t -D DUMP_MODULES
[09:29] <sup3rs3nior> should i restart the whole system or can i just restart the network services?
[09:29] <cryingtux> i have fully updated system and i still see kde 4.2.2
[09:29] <elfgoh> fryguy: bash: apachectl: command not found
[09:29] <gnr> fryguy: apache2ctl
[09:29] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: you can just restart networking
[09:29] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: you almost never have to restart the machine
[09:29] <sup3rs3nior> with ifconfig?
[09:29] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: or /etc/init.d/networking
[09:29] <gnr> elfgoh: fryguy means .... #apache2ctl -t -D DUMP_MODULES
[09:30] <elfgoh> gnr: cool thanks.
[09:30]  * fryguy wonders why ubuntu renamed the command
[09:30] <gnr> fryguy: lol
[09:30] <q0_0p> the tab button is the best command
[09:31] <q0_0p> spamming the tab button yes
[09:31] <sup3rs3nior> WE HAVE PACKETS! fryguy I have a newfound respect for you.
[09:31] <gnr> fryguy: they'll say .. ask the freaking guy at apache group
[09:31] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: lol
[09:31] <v4vijayakumar> anybody here from India, using bsnl / evdo wireless device for their internet connection ?
[09:31] <Jasa> Hey, what would be good program to watch satellite, if totem-xine segfaults, myth not too shabby to configure and kaffeine needs kde libs i don't want to install ... what good programs left ?
[09:31] <Rigongia> cryingtux : on http://packages.ubuntu.com i still see kde 4.2.2
[09:32] <fryguy> Jasa: vlc and mplayer should work
[09:32] <gnr> Jasa: mplayer, xine. vlc
[09:32] <Jasa> mplayer you need to zap channels ... vlc or xine have good channel list on side ?
[09:32] <Rigongia> fryguy : an offtopic question ... how can you write "actions" like "fryguy wonders why ubuntu renamed the command" ?
[09:32] <lstarnes> Rigongia: /me
[09:32] <fryguy> Rigongia: use /me
[09:33] <Rigongia> thanks
[09:33] <WIGGMPk> what is the command to edit the gnome menus?
[09:33] <Jasa> alacarte
[09:33]  * ghindo suggests that Rigongia uses "/me"
[09:34] <Rigongia> weird ... if i use the "/me" command i can't see my own messages
[09:34]  * sup3rs3nior thinks pastebin is the coolest thing since sliced bread..
[09:34] <jimmyjh> WIGGMPk, ALT+F2, gconf-editor
[09:34] <WIGGMPk> thanks Jasa
[09:34] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: you are pretty easy to please
[09:34] <Tyrath> I installed some new fonts and now all the ubuntu jaunty fonts (which I liked) seem to have disappeared/been disabled. Is there anyway I can reenable them or get them back?
[09:34] <cryingtux> Rigongia: i found this :::http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.3
[09:35] <WIGGMPk> jimmyjh: no, thats the configuration editor not the gnome main menu editor, plus I have no gnome-panels so RUN dialog is disabled Jasa got it though
[09:35] <Tyrath> I can tell you exactly what I did if you need me to explain
[09:35] <sup3rs3nior> I try to be.. That's one way to be happy.. Lives not about the cards you get but how you play them..
[09:35] <sup3rs3nior> *lifes
[09:35] <fryguy> Tyrath: yes
[09:35] <Rigongia> so Kubuntu (which is a fork of "regular" ubuntu) indeed has kde 4.2.3
[09:35] <Rigongia> but apparently standard Ubuntu has not
[09:36] <jimmyjh> WIGGMPk, oh good good i thought you asked for the editor :)
[09:36] <reenignEesreveR> i wanna setup a file sharing server ... an ungeeky so something better than ftp/samba should do ... is there any "getdropbox.com" like servcie which i may install on my ubuntu machine?
[09:36] <lstarnes> Rigongia: regular ubuntu uses the same packages as kubuntu
[09:36] <cryingtux> Rigongia: im using kubuntu so i guess i will get these packages
[09:36] <jimmyjh> WIGGMPk, i hate when the panels disappear
[09:36] <jimmyjh> lol
[09:36] <sup3rs3nior> Do both kubuntu and ubuntu have gnome?
[09:36] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: yes
[09:36] <Tyrath> fryguy: sudo unzip -d /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ ~/OSX/Fonts.zip && sudo fc-cache -f -v
[09:37] <jimmyjh> sup3rs3nior, you can get either
[09:37] <WIGGMPk> jimmyjh: i disabled it purposely.. I prefer just avant-window-navi
[09:37] <gnr> Tyrath: #fc-cache -rv
[09:37] <lstarnes> sup3rs3nior: the difference is that is installed by default
[09:37] <sup3rs3nior> What is Xubuntu?
[09:37] <Rigongia> cryingtux : if you added the repo in the link you just send me, otherwise not :D
[09:37] <themad> sup3rs3nior: it's ubuntu with XFCE instead of gnome
[09:37] <jimmyjh> WIGGMPk, ah nice , some people like keeping only the dock on,, i just keep the panels lol
[09:38] <Tyrath> gnr: I just tried that but it didn't seem to do anything. should I take away the # ?
[09:38] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: uses xfce as the default desktop environment
[09:38] <sup3rs3nior> XFCE is used with Solaris, correct?
[09:38] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: no
[09:38] <jimmyjh> sup3rs3nior, its xubuntu uses xfce. as kubuntu uses kde and ubuntu uses gnome
[09:38] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: solaris switched to gnome a while ago
[09:38] <skillet> sup3rs3nior, you must me thinking CDE
[09:38] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: somewhat in sync with opensolaris
[09:39] <Tyrath> gnc?
[09:39] <sup3rs3nior> Oh, yeah i saw some screen shots of opensolaris and what looked like xfce
[09:39] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: it was gmp,e
[09:39] <fryguy> gnome
[09:39] <themad> "looked like"
[09:39] <sup3rs3nior> right haha
[09:39] <Tyrath> ok, I did it anyway. I'll logout and log back into ubuntu desktop and see what happens
[09:40] <skillet> opensolaris has gnome.... solalris has some jacked up java+gnome crap
[09:40] <sup3rs3nior> is opensolaris worth checking out?
[09:40] <fryguy> sup3rs3nior: no
[09:40] <skillet> fryguy, what makes you say no? have you tried it?
[09:40] <Jasa> Hey, so how does the vlc channel surfing work ? -.-
[09:40] <fryguy> skillet: yes
 if you have a SPARC it might be ... </joking>
[09:41] <skillet> sup3rs3nior, there is a new version coming out next month
[09:41] <fryguy> Rigongia: recent benchmarks show amd64 outperforming sparc with recent recompiles
[09:41] <sup3rs3nior> i tried to run it in a virtual machine but it didn't work, so i was thinking about installing it..
[09:41] <sup3rs3nior> for kicks..
[09:42] <skillet> and opensolaris doesnt run on sparc
[09:42] <Rigongia> fryguy : really ? Thanks for telling me :)
[09:42] <skillet> thats prob why he was 'joking'
[09:42] <sup3rs3nior> that would explain it..
[09:42] <mbent> hi, if i build something from source, will i have to build it from source forever (to upgrade it)? Or when the new version comes out in the repositories.... will it automatically update to that binary?
[09:42] <fryguy> skillet: the only things it has to offer featurewise are dtrace and zfs.  As a desktop operating system it's very poor.  As a server OS it's quite good, but speed is very slow compared to other common unices.  It's quite good for running on HEAVY hardware though.
[09:42] <fryguy> skillet: not public releases
[09:42] <fryguy> mbent: build from source forever
[09:43] <ExtremeDevilz> humm guys
[09:43] <skillet> fryguy, zfs is prob one of the greatest things ever
[09:43] <sup3rs3nior> back when i was in linux class, all our lab computers were "dumb terminals" on a server. i think the server made an "instance" for each computer.. any ideas what that was?
[09:43] <RunSky> in svn ,how to commit branch to trunk?/
[09:43] <fryguy> skillet: yes
[09:43] <RunSky> in svn ,how to commit branch to trunk?/
[09:43] <Tyrath> ok, nothing seems to have changed :/
[09:43] <fryguy> RunSky: svn merge
[09:43] <mbent> fryguy, great, i have 2. One says it will automagically upgrade, and the other says build from source forever, and you say build from source forever
[09:44] <alex123> Hi, how do I get a microphone on my laptop to work?
[09:44] <mbent> 2 friends **
[09:44] <RunSky> thank you
[09:44] <alex123> internal one, under keyboard, and I`m on dell 1525
[09:44] <Tyrath> unless... can anyone do me a favor. visit facebook and tell me if the fonts have changed to some weird format?
[09:44] <jony123> hello if my harddrive has 'cyclic reduncney test' im guessing that this is not good
[09:44] <fryguy> mbent: if you install from source, you won't put anything in any of the places that debian will know about, you won't register the package as being installed or anything, so apt won't even know it exists
[09:44] <skillet> Tyrath, they are still the same... haha
[09:44] <lstarnes> Tyrath: tget look normal
[09:45] <fryguy> mbent: what MIGHT happen is apt will just install over your thing later on, depending on how you install it
[09:45] <Rigongia> alex123 : can you post the output of "lspci -v | grep -i audio" ?
[09:45] <Tyrath> skillet lstarnes : thats annoying because it means I've lost the jaunty fonts :(
[09:45] <Tyrath> skillet lstarnes : but thanks anyhow
[09:45] <alex123> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[09:46] <fryguy> skillet: have you actually used zfs?
[09:46] <skillet> fryguy, yes
[09:47] <fryguy> i'm running it on 1 of my machines now (other is hardware raid)
[09:47] <Rigongia> alex123 : how do you know the mic is not working ?
[09:47] <skillet> i actually maintain solaris 10 servers....
[09:47] <Tyrath> does anyone know where there's an image online of some jaunty text and how it should look? i don't know if I'm imagining it different or what :/
[09:48] <alex123> sound recorder doesnt record anything and in skype it doesnt work
[09:48] <Tyrath> alex123: it could be a problem with your microphone
[09:48] <arand> alex123: Look in volume control, preferences for alsa mixer, fiddle about with enabling everything that has to do with recording and change settings back and forth.
[09:48] <Rigongia> alex123 : have you checked your mixer settings ?
[09:48] <alex123> yeah I did with mixer
[09:49] <alex123> didnt with alsa, not sure about settings and I think its not even alsa in jaunty, no?
[09:49] <fryguy> alex123: it is
[09:49] <cryingtux> Rigongia: there is an issue with the GPG key of that link
[09:49] <alex123> ok which settings then and how to call them?
[09:49] <fryguy> alex123: alsamixer
[09:50] <jimmy_birer> hi
[09:50] <jimmy_birer> im using warty :D
[09:50] <jimmy_birer> i found old releases at ubuntu site and wanted to see warty at virtualbox
[09:50] <jimmy_birer> it rox at speed
[09:50] <jimmy_birer> i dont know
[09:50] <jimmy_birer> i think i will use it
[09:50] <jimmyjh> jimmy_birer, warty ? someone needs to upgrade :P
[09:50] <jimmy_birer> hehehehehe
[09:50] <jimmy_birer> no dude
[09:50] <jimmy_birer> just fot testing and playing
[09:51] <jimmyjh> jimmy_birer,  ohh lol
[09:51] <jimmy_birer> aaround
[09:51] <jimmy_birer> it doesn`t really ugly
[09:51] <alex123> doesnt help :(
[09:51] <jimmy_birer> now i will upgrade to a new kernel
[09:51] <jimmy_birer> or i will screw system
[09:51] <jimmy_birer> lol
[09:51] <Rigongia> cryingtux : what kind of issue ?
[09:51] <jimmy_birer> GTK 0.8
[09:52] <jimmyjh> jimmy_birer,  gtk 0.8 wow that is old
[09:52] <jimmy_birer> how to use patch?
[09:52] <fryguy> patch has a great manpage
[09:52] <cryingtux> i try adding the key and it says no valid key found
[09:52] <Tyrath> fryguy: that command I gave you before, would that have deleted the jaunty fonts?
[09:52] <cryingtux> im using another method now to add it as BLOCK key
[09:52] <fryguy> Tyrath: no
[09:53] <Tyrath> fryguy: would it explain why I no longer see the fonts?
[09:53] <fryguy> probably
[09:53] <fryguy> Tyrath: i install my fonts a different way so I dunno
[09:53] <jimmy_birer> is not really old-warty
[09:53] <jimmy_birer> just from 2004 :)
[09:53] <jimmyjh> jimmy_birer, getting new kernel will make it go as quick as it does now , might as well use jaunty :P
[09:53] <Rigongia> cryingtux : i'll try myself just to double check
[09:53] <jimmy_birer> jaunty sucks
[09:54] <jimmy_birer> hardy is stabler
[09:54] <cryingtux> Rigongia:yes please do it
[09:54] <Tyrath> fryguy: I don't normally install fonts, I just use the ones on the system. The only reason I used that command was cause it was on a site and I didn't know how to install fonts
[09:54] <jimmyjh> jimmy_birer, why you say that?  well jaunty has new features like the new xorg for example
[09:54] <arand> alex123: for me I have it working through [Under HDA Intel] first "capture" all the way up under "recording", "digital mic 1" for digital input source under options, [Under OSS] In-gain cranked all the way up.
[09:54] <jimmyjh> jimmy_birer, that takes time for it to work just right with all video drivers though especially ati's
[09:54] <Tyrath> fryguy: but if the fonts are still on my system, I should be able to switch back to them
[09:55] <fryguy> Tyrath: look in the directory and see if they are there
[09:55] <jimmy_birer> make is too old to compile linux kernel
[09:55] <jimmy_birer> hahahahaha
[09:56] <jimmy_birer> GNUstep maybe :D
[09:56] <jimmyjh> haha
[09:56] <sonium> hi, anyone familiar with NetworkManager's Mobile Broadband configuration?
[09:56] <Tyrath> fryguy: this is apparently my current set up. Application font: Sans 10; Document font: Sans 10; Desktop font: Sans 10; Window title font: Sans Bold 10; Fixed width font: Monospace 10
[09:56] <Tyrath> fryguy: is that the same as you?
[09:56] <jimmy_birer> np
[09:56] <jimmy_birer> no
[09:56] <fryguy> Tyrath: no, i have all of the fonts changed on my system, but those are the correct defaults
[09:57] <Tyrath> fryguy: that's bizarre then that I'm not seeing the defaults :/
[09:57] <fryguy> Tyrath: everywhere? or just certain applications?
[09:57] <Tyrath> fryguy: I would look to see if they're still there but I don't know what I'm looking for. Also if these say Sans and they're the default the replacements probably just took the names of the old fonts, no?
[09:57] <fryguy> Tyrath: no
[09:58] <jimmyjh> jimmy_birer, i might try out the new fedora 11 when its finally released
[09:58] <cryingtux> Rigongia; see this error http://pastebin.com/m41ea1c0a
[09:58] <cryingtux> even this method fails
[09:58] <Tyrath> fryguy: facebook for example. and it looks different in xterm
[09:58] <fryguy> do you have xtern configured to use XFT fonts?
[09:58] <fryguy> (hint: by default it's not)
[09:58] <Tyrath> fryguy: I'm not sure. whatever the default setting for jaunty was
[09:59] <ikevin> i have sound problem on flash application on jaunty 64b, i have tryed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130384, so when i use pulse, i don't have sound for flash apps, and other sound are bad quality and often cutting
[09:59] <cryingtux> http://pastebin.com/m802d532   this one too
[09:59] <fryguy> Tyrath: and are you sure you are referring to xterm and not gnome-terminal?
[09:59] <ikevin> anyone have other idea for sound in flash without pulse?
[09:59] <Tyrath> fryguy: I thought xterm was gnome-terminal
[09:59] <ikevin> (i'm using optical out)
[09:59] <fryguy> ikevin: alsa-oss
[09:59] <fryguy> Tyrath: no
[09:59] <ikevin> fryguy, don't work too
[09:59] <fryguy> ikevin: did yo uset firefox DSP in /etc?
[10:00] <fryguy> Tyrath: when you unzipped, did it prompt you to overwrite stuff
[10:00] <ikevin> i don't have any firefoxrc in /etc/firefox-3.0
[10:00] <fryguy> ikevin: so make one
[10:00] <ikevin> ok
[10:00] <ozzmosis> Tyrath: gnome-terminal emulates xterm .. xterm is part of xorg .. gnome-terminal isn't
[10:00] <ikevin> what should i put on?
[10:00] <Tyrath> fryguy: ok, i just opened xterm and gnome-terminal to see what the differences were, and I'm actually referring to gnome-terminal
[10:01] <fryguy> ozzmosis: actually gnome-terminal emulates a vt100 with several extensions, just like xterm does, gnome-terminal's functional spec is based on vt100, not xterm
[10:01] <Rigongia> cryingtux : save the page pointed by the link into a file (say, "test.asc") then run apt-key add $filename and off you go
[10:01] <jimmy_birer> i will compile freebsd kernel on linux :D
[10:01] <ozzmosis> fryguy: well ok, I just meant from a UI perspective
[10:01] <ozzmosis> jimmy_birer: why?
[10:01] <jimmy_birer> i will try to make a combination of linux and freebsd
[10:02] <cryingtux> Rigongia: now im doing that
[10:02] <v4vijayakumar> anybody here from India, using bsnl / evdo wireless device for their internet connection ?
[10:02] <sharkk> hi, I'm trying to add an item on the menu of gnome, but I cannot find a way to change the working directory before the execution of the command, how can I do that? cd path ; command doesn't work neither in application nor terminal application mode. thanks
[10:02] <ozzmosis> jimmy_birer: been done
[10:02] <fryguy> ozzmosis: from a ui-perspective the only thing they share in common is the window that displays the running command.  the entire menu structure and keybindings are different..
[10:02] <jimmy_birer> i use toaster for internet connection
[10:02] <jimmy_birer> :D
[10:02] <jimmyjh> jimmy_birer,  that will just make it bsd kernel is the heart of the os lol
[10:03] <jimmy_birer> jimmyjh, i see that you noob.
[10:03] <fryguy> sharkk: what is the command you are trying to run?
[10:03] <sharkk> wine something
[10:03] <Tyrath> fryguy: if I give you a screenshot would you be able to tell what the font i'm using is?
[10:03] <fryguy> sharkk: also for the launcher there is a 'working directory' option, just set that
[10:03] <fryguy> Tyrath: no
[10:03] <Tyrath> lol
[10:03] <sharkk> where?
[10:03] <fryguy> sharkk: no idea
[10:03] <sharkk> :)
[10:04] <fryguy> Tyrath: when you unzipped, did it prompt you to overwrite things?
[10:04] <Tyrath> fryguy: actually what's the default rendering - monochrome or best shapes?
[10:04] <annika> After a system crash I have problems using gconftool with a given dbus session. I hope you can help me! http://attachr.com/12289
[10:04] <fryguy> Tyrath: i have no idea
[10:04] <sharkk> in the editor there is no trace of a similar thing...
[10:04] <ozzmosis> sharkk: you could write a short shell script and tell the launcher to run that instead
[10:04] <Tyrath> fryguy: I used sudo, and it didn't ask me
[10:04] <sharkk> noo it's not the solution
[10:05] <ikevin> fryguy, i've added it, and trying FIREFOX-DSP="oss", FIREFOX-DSP="alsa" and FIREFOX-DSP="aoss", i don't work too
[10:05] <sharkk> where the items of menu are saved?
[10:05] <fryguy> Tyrath: /usr/share/fonts?
[10:05] <Tyrath> fryguy: System -> Preferences -> Appearence -> Fonts - what does that say?
[10:05] <fryguy> Tyrath: i don't use gnome
[10:05] <Tyrath> ah
[10:05] <wildc4rd> after an aptitude search, there are lots of options, is there a recommended Java package, so I can use an SHH applet to connect to a PC remotely?
[10:05] <ikevin> fryguy, do you know how can i check if the firefoxrc is loadded?
[10:05] <fryguy> ikevin: no
[10:05] <fryguy> ikevin: no quotes btw
[10:06] <Tyrath> fryguy: in /usr/share/fonts/ there's three folders: truetype type1 X11
[10:06] <Tyrath> fryguy: do you want their names?
[10:06] <ozzmosis> !info jta > wildc4rd
[10:06] <Tyrath> in truetype for example?
[10:06] <ikevin> fryguy, no change :x
[10:07] <fryguy> Tyrath: http://rattlesnake.ath.cx:81/fonts.tar.bz2
[10:07] <Tyrath> fryguy: actually could you tell me what the default font naes are?
[10:07] <Rigongia> cryingtux : any luck ?
[10:07] <ozzmosis> wildc4rd: apt-cache show jta
[10:07] <ozzmosis> wildc4rd: I think that's what you're after
[10:07] <Tyrath> fryguy: and then I just unzip and put them in /usr/share/fonts/?
[10:08] <fryguy> yes
[10:08] <fryguy> Tyrath: you'll probably run into some minor issues
[10:08] <fryguy> because i probably have some other font packages installed that you don't
[10:08] <fryguy> shouldn't be a big deal though
[10:09] <sydneyguy> Hail all
[10:10] <ozzmosis> anybody here installed Ubuntu 9.04 server?  how much disk space does it need?  I installed 7.04 server recently and it needed about 350 MB, then I upgraded to 8.04 LTS and it shot up to 700 MB, and that was after I did "apt-get clean"
[10:10] <sydneyguy> I need help with something .. please do not be mad ...???!!!!
[10:10] <ozzmosis> !ask | sydneyguy
[10:10] <Tyrath> fryguy: what kind of issues?
[10:10] <elfgoh> ozzmosis: I think close to 1GB
[10:10] <fryguy> Tyrath: installing font packages in the future might give harmless errors/warnings about overwriting stuff
[10:10] <BoltClock> hi, ran apt-get update on ubuntu 8.04.2 and i got the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/184858/
[10:10] <Almindor> hello
[10:10] <ozz_> hi
[10:10] <Almindor> how can you convert subtitle files?
[10:10] <sydneyguy> I am using macport to install kde .. and it seems i have to install libacl and libattr .. i could not compile them .. any help  .. or u can direct me please
[10:11] <Almindor> I need to convert the encoding to utf-8
[10:11] <sydneyguy> I am using macport to install kde .. and it seems i have to install libacl and libattr .. i could not compile them .. any help  .. or u can direct me please
[10:11] <ozzmosis> elfgoh: hmm, seems a bit excessive, but thanks :)
[10:11] <Almindor> I tried gnome-subtitles but it doesn't have anything to change encoding
[10:11] <ozzmosis> sydneyguy: is that a Ubuntu question?
[10:11] <Tyrath> fryguy: because the fonts I might be installing in the future might already be in this font pack? - is that it?
[10:11] <fryguy> sydneyguy: wrong channel
[10:11] <elfgoh> ozatomic: i was thinking that an install from mini.iso might be leaner
[10:11] <fryguy> Tyrath: yes
[10:11] <sydneyguy> I know .. please direct me to the channel
[10:11] <ozz_> is there any girl here?
[10:11] <ozz_> :)
[10:11] <ozzmosis> ozz_: no.
[10:12] <ozzmosis> there are no girls on the Internet.
[10:12] <jimmyjh> ozz_,  highly doubtful lol
[10:12] <fryguy> sydneyguy: #osx. #macports, #kde
[10:12] <Tyrath> fryguy: that's no issue lol, but thanks for the heads up ;)
[10:12] <sydneyguy> Thanx alot
[10:12] <mobi-sheep> ozz_: Try #girls
[10:12] <ozz_> hehe
[10:12] <kmdm> BoltClock: Tried a different mirror ?
[10:12] <Myrtti> !women > ozz_
[10:12] <Slart> !hardy
[10:13] <ozzmosis> Myrtti: hey!  where are my women!  ubottu didn't send me a private message when you did that :-)
[10:13] <Myrtti> ozzmosis: they're running away from you, fast
[10:13] <ozzmosis> oh, you sent it to ozz_
[10:13] <ozzmosis> I have "ozz" on highlight :/
[10:13] <ozzmosis> my mistake
[10:14] <ozzmosis> !women > ozzmosis
[10:14]  * Myrtti doesn't like trolls
[10:14] <wildc4rd> ozzmosis, installed jta, do I need to 'start' it?
[10:14] <sharkk> anyone knows where the my created items in the gnome menu "applications" are stored?
[10:14] <kmdm> Myrtti: nor do women I'd bet... hmm, unless maybe female trolls... :D
[10:14] <ozzmosis> wildc4rd: I've never used it
[10:15] <mobi-sheep> wildc4rd: What are you trying to?
[10:15] <Slart> sharkk: probably somewhere in that gconf thingy
[10:15] <Slart> sharkk: run gconf-editor in a terminal
[10:16] <wildc4rd> mobi-sheep, would like to access a terminal remotely using a java SSH applet, got as far as installing jta, but the applet still informs me I need java
[10:17] <TiTi> #altered-warez
[10:17] <Myrtti> TiTi: no spamming
[10:17] <fryguy> Myrtti: yah, that'll stop him!
[10:17]  * kmdm grins
[10:17] <Slart> sharkk: after googling a bit it seems the menu stuff are stored in ~/.config/menus/
[10:17] <ozzmosis> Slart: don't think they're in gconf actually
[10:17] <mobi-sheep> wildc4rd: You can access a remote computer by opening a terminal and "ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>--> You don't need Java SSH applet.  Just a thought.
[10:17] <Myrtti> fryguy: fair warning first...
[10:18] <ozzmosis> Slart: cos I don't think they're meant to be gnome-specific
[10:18] <Roonux> plop
[10:18] <Slart> ozzmosis: nope.. it seems they are in ~/.config/menus
[10:18] <BoltClock> kmdm: ok, works now, lol
[10:18] <kmdm> BoltClock: Cool - good to hear :)
[10:19] <ozzmosis> Slart: so I see :)
[10:19] <reqon> fglrx 8.612 works sweet with 38XX-48XX ati cards
[10:19] <wildc4rd> mobi-sheep, the applet is embedded in an admin web interface, be useful if it worked
[10:19] <cs1234657987> Hello! I have installed Xubuntu 9.04 and managed to automount my second partition to /media/sda5 with the help of pysdm. But it's "read only"... :-/ How to fix that?
[10:19] <sharkk> Slart: it doesn't seems to contains my entry that I have added to the menu neither gconf
[10:20] <wildc4rd> mobi-sheep, but yes, ssh from a terminal works
[10:22] <ikevin> fryguy, i have sound working now, it's a right problem
[10:22] <Slart> sharkk: my shortcut ended up in /home/markus/.local/share/applications  when  I created a new menu entry
[10:23] <ikevin> while i run firefox as root, it work with alsa, i've updated my launcher to run it as root, my problem is solved now
[10:23] <ikevin> thx for your help
[10:23] <Slart> sharkk: I guess it might differ depending on where you create your menu items..
[10:24] <m0u5e> when i leave my ubuntu desktop on for extended periods of time, it will lock the screen properly and go to "screensaver" but it won't ever put my monitor in power suspend mode, is there a way to correct this?
[10:24] <mobi-sheep> m0u5e: There are a "Power Options" button in Screensaver Dialog?
[10:25] <m0u5e> mobi-sheep: yes but it doesn't work
[10:25] <Garbu> How do I change my login password for startup?
[10:25] <m0u5e> mobi-sheep: my screen will go blank, but my monitor is not in "suspend" or power saving mode
[10:26] <Slart> Garbu: isn't there an option in system, preferences, About me
[10:26] <Tyrath> fryguy: i'm trying this sudo mv -f * /usr/share/fonts/ from inside the fonts directory you gave me and it's not letting me
[10:26] <|demontager|> how to add script in autoload in Ubuntu?
[10:26] <Tyrath> fryguy: it gives me messages like mv: cannot move `X11' to `/usr/share/fonts/X11': Directory not empty
[10:27] <mobi-sheep> m0u5e: I don't know.  Hardwares work different all times.
[10:27] <Garbu> Slart: thank you :)
[10:27] <m0u5e> mobi-sheep: this is true... but it works in windows, without any drivers installed :(
[10:27] <|demontager|> where is autoload folder in Ubuntu?
[10:28] <m0u5e> mobi-sheep: it would just be nice for my monitor to be able to go into power saving mode
[10:28] <m0u5e> that way i can sleep without it lighting up my entire room
[10:28] <Slart> m0u5e: correction.. it works in windows with the drivers that are included in the default install of windows
[10:28] <linuxuser3> What are some good RSS readers for an Ubuntu system?
[10:29] <m0u5e> Slart: okay, sure but there is no reason for it not to work in linux by default as well, i'm not here to criticize ubuntu, i'm just wondering if there is a solution to my problem
[10:29] <m0u5e> :)
[10:29] <Slart> mobi-sheep: have you checked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log  to see if there is something about powersaving not being supported?
[10:29] <Rigongia> m0u5e : i found the power management options in System -> Preferences -> Screensaver
[10:29] <m0u5e> Rigongia: yes thanks, it doesn't actually do what i need it to do though :(
[10:29] <Slart> m0u5e: I don't know.. but very few things work without drivers of some kind.. that was the only think I wanted to highlight
[10:30] <mobi-sheep> m0u5e: See what Slart say about Xorg.0.log
[10:30] <Rigongia> wait ... there's a "Power Management" button which lets you set the time of inactivity before your display is put in sleep mode
[10:31] <m0u5e> Slart: is there anything in specific I should be looking for in xorg.0.log?
[10:31] <Slart> m0u5e: errors or warnings about the monitor.. usually starts the line with (EE) or (WW)
[10:33] <m0u5e> Slart: only fglrx and AIGLX stuff
[10:33] <m0u5e> Slart: nothign really about my display device that doesn't mention fglrx or video drivers
[10:33] <Rigongia> m0u5e : just to check ... what time of inactivity did you set before the display can go in sleep mode ?
[10:33] <Slart> m0u5e: you could also check the syslog or kern.log.. set the power management to sleep after 1 minute or so.. leave the computer for two minutes.. then check the logs... see if you find something
[10:33] <m0u5e> Rigongia: 15 minutes why?
[10:34] <m0u5e> Slart: okay i will try that
[10:34] <m0u5e> Slart: by default gnome's minimum for sleep is 11 minutes :/
[10:34] <m0u5e> Slart:  darnit lol
[10:34] <mobi-sheep> m0u5e: Just like what you said (kinda).  Well, I'm not here to criticize people's bad habits... but turning off the monitor when you're done would truly converse more power than leaving it on and idling for next 10min...20min. :)
[10:35] <pawel> cze
[10:35] <mobi-sheep> m0u5e: You can try "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE"
[10:35] <sharkk> finally I found it :) there exists an element of the item that is named Path but there is no way to change it from the menu editor of gnome so I modify it by terminal... and yes the item were in ~/.local/share/applications/ thanks very much
[10:35] <mobi-sheep> m0u5e: Since there are lot of things to be read.   I haven't really played around with it that much
[10:36] <Markkx> Hey =)
[10:36] <m0u5e> mobi-sheep: i usually do, but in the cases of which i do forget, it would be nice if my computer could pick up some slack for me
[10:36] <pawel> czesc, mozna z kims po polsku???
[10:36] <Slart> !pl | pawel
[10:37] <Tyrath> fryguy: I removed all the fonts in /usr/share/fonts/ so basically all the characters on my comp became squares, but that's ok because I remembered that I was in your font directory so then just moved all your fonts into the directory with sudo, and now I'm seeing all the characters again - and the font i'm typing in is the default jaunty font which is great :D. thanks
[10:37] <m0u5e> Slart: you mean suspend? ... err last time i tried it, it didn't work, so i havent really used it with this computer
[10:37] <Slart> m0u5e: no, not suspend.. just put the monitor to sleep
[10:37] <m0u5e> Slart: i'm not aware of a command o_O;
[10:38] <mobi-sheep> Slart: shutdown? :)
[10:38] <m0u5e> mobi-sheep: haha
[10:38] <Slart> mobi-sheep: mm.. a shutdown lite =)
[10:39] <arp1t> hi!
[10:39] <Rigongia> hi arp1t
[10:39] <arp1t> guys... i'v run into sum prob w/ my ubuntu 9 instalatn
[10:39] <arp1t> can ne1 help me out?
[10:39] <mobi-sheep> Slart + m0u5e:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813387
[10:39] <Rigongia> first of all explain your problem, arp1t
[10:40] <Slart> m0u5e: hey... try this   run "/etc/acpi/screenblank.sh" in a terminal.. that's a start =)
[10:40] <v4vijayakumar> anyone tried antenna / wireless signal boosters with your evdo / cdma internet usb device ??
[10:40] <Tyrath> fryguy: only problem is that the facebook fonts are still whack :P
[10:40] <kerebrus__> arp1t: whats the problem?
[10:40] <arp1t> hi rigongia
[10:40] <arp1t> yeah... i'm using ubuntu on hp pavilion dv9700
[10:40] <m0u5e> Slart: uh, will i able to come back after i run it? o_O
[10:40] <Slart> m0u5e: sure
[10:41] <arp1t> n my laptop's remote keys dnt seem to wrk w/ vlc
[10:41] <Makuseru> Hi, When I went to record some things today using Jack and Ardour I opened everything like normal, but today I wasnt getting any input from my USB Microphone. So I checked everything and everything seemed ok in Ardour and hardware wise, so I checked the options in Jack Control, and for some reason it isn't seeing my USB microphone under "Input Device" anymore. I tried moving the microphone to different ports and everything else, but It just
[10:41] <Makuseru> wont see it. Does anyone know why Jack would stop recoginizing this device it's previouslyt had no problems with, and how I could fix this?
[10:41] <zhane> how to disable display turn off?? Ive set the setting in PowerManagement to never.. but it still turns off by itself
[10:41] <m0u5e> Slart: it turns my screen blank (its the "blank screensaver"), but it does not put my monitor into power saving mode
[10:42] <Slart> m0u5e: well.. I said it was a start.. there are lots of scripts in /etc/acpi/
[10:42] <m0u5e> powersaving mode makes my monitor's power button slowly flash, and the sceren is completely powered off
[10:42] <Rigongia> arp1t : what do you mean with "remote keys" ?
[10:42] <m0u5e> but if i press a button / move my mouse, or press any settings buttons on my monitor, it immediately comes back
[10:43] <m0u5e> versus, if i turned my monitor completely off, it takes like 5 seconds (including logo, and stuff) to power on
[10:43] <m0u5e> which is why power save is convenient
[10:43] <arp1t> remote supplied with laptops... i cant get it to work on ubuntu
[10:43] <arp1t> i mean some keys work but play pause stop etc dont wrk w/ vlc. i'm sure d remote is fine thou
[10:44] <goodeye> vlc has quite BS remote support
[10:45] <Rigongia> goodeye : what does BS stand for ?
[10:45] <arp1t> i know... bt it is one of the players that i like more in ubuntu. i use kmplayer in vista
[10:45] <goodeye> i even use VLC in win7
[10:46] <mrh> how do I disable the sleep button?
[10:46] <goodeye> Rigongia cant tell, cencore :D
[10:46] <arp1t> i ws thinking of using the mplayer in ubuntu (on which kmplayer is based). bt of all the built in video/audio players in ubuntu, what do u suggest i should use?
[10:46] <mrh> I tried editing /etc/acpi/events/sleepbtn no go
[10:47] <mrh> same with /etc/default/acpi-support
[10:47] <m0u5e> goodeye: i don't really like VLC ... i used it a few years back, and i noticed a definite loss in quality with it's post processing ... dunno if they ever fixed it
[10:47] <m0u5e> arp1t: i definitely recommend mplayer, its probably one of the most versatile and powerful players across all platforms
[10:48] <goodeye> problem is, i use VLC so widely that i don't want to adopt it
[10:48] <goodeye> can u use other players to stream DVB?
[10:48] <mobi-sheep__> m0u5e: Maybe you should give VLC a whirl.  I have been using it since and haven't noticed anything wrong with it.  I'm using VLC 1.0 RC2 now though.
[10:48] <ottoshmidt> What would be the reason that my Monitor remains blank (doesn't show image) after I come out of Suspend regime?
[10:48] <zhane> how to disable display turn off?? Ive set the setting in PowerManagement to never.. but it still turns off by itself
[10:48] <mobi-sheep__> m0u5e: And lot of people here often suggest VLC as a media player.
[10:49] <wiehan> Very serious urgent question: How do I use dd to copy mbr of a windows hard drive?
[10:49] <m0u5e> mobi-sheep__: lol actually i'm installing it as we speak :D
[10:49] <mobi-sheep__> m0u5e: If you're using Ubuntu's repo, there are an embedded window bug. :(
[10:50] <m0u5e> mobi-sheep__: -__-;
[10:50] <Slart> m0u5e: interesting stuff.. http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/x-screen-blanking.html
[10:50] <arp1t> mplayer is by far the most powerful player
[10:50] <ganesh> where is login sound stored?
[10:50] <m0u5e> Slart: thanks
[10:50] <arp1t>  the problem is that it's not as easy to use with those hundreds of options hidden under the hood, rathr difficult to reach
[10:50] <wiehan> Also: I am using (or trying) dd, fdisk, and partition image as a replacement for Norton Ghost to make a perfect copy of my gf's windows hard drive on her laptop before switching her over to ubuntu
[10:51] <mobi-sheep__> m0u5e: https://launchpad.net/~kow/+archive/ppa --> If you want VLC 1.0RC2 :)
[10:52] <goodeye> arp1t can u use mplayer converting videos, stream videos and ripping audio on youtube videos?
[10:52] <Slart> m0u5e: ahh.. sudo vbetool dpms off  shuts down my screen..  it's mentioned in the link I sent you
[10:52] <mohan_> hi..
[10:53] <fabio> hi
[10:53] <mohan_> Sound not working
[10:53] <mohan_> :(
[10:53] <troopperi> ganesh: you mean /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/desktop-login.ogg
[10:53] <arp1t> @goodeye... i hv nvr used it that way
[10:53] <hafer> hey
[10:54] <goodeye> :D
[10:54] <hafer> any speak pl?
[10:54] <arp1t> does ne1 knw hw to configure mplayer? changing shortcuts etc
[10:54] <mohan_> ganesh: ru from india
[10:54] <mobi-sheep__> !pl | hafer
[10:54] <Leszczoman> hafer: priv
[10:54] <wiehan> can someone help me to clone a windows hard drive please!!!!!
[10:55] <fabio> arp1t: what about mplaye ?
[10:55] <mobi-sheep__> arp1t: Look at Mplayer.  See what you can work with.
[10:55] <linduxed> wiehan: drop the exclamation marks and someone just might
[10:55] <fabio> arp1t: maybe you mean mencoder
[10:55] <mobi-sheep__> wiehan: Ask ##windows
[10:55] <kmdm> wiehan: dd ?
[10:56] <Severian> Howdy, will someone invite me to participate in Ubuntu One?
[10:56] <Leszczoman> What is Ubuntu One?
[10:56] <wiehan> kmdm: ok, dd, but how?
[10:56] <kmdm> wiehan: sudo dd if=/dev/sdX of=windows-hdd.img bs=1024k or something similar, but that will copy the freespace as well
[10:56] <rhandom> having problems with Madwfi Wifi after upgrde to Ubuntu Jaunty. Anybody familiar with madwifi on latest Ubuntu?
[10:56] <kmdm> wiehan: replace the X as appropriate
[10:57] <Severian> A new program Ubuntu has in beta.  It is kind of like DropBox.  A big difference is that the client is open source and GPL3.
[10:57] <kmdm> wiehan: That command will create a hard-drive sized file in the current directory
[10:57] <Severian> Leszczoman, that was for you.
[10:57] <zhane> how to disable display turn off?? Ive set the setting in PowerManagement to never.. but it still turns off by itself
[10:58] <Severian> Ubuntu One page:  https://ubuntuone.com/plans/
[10:58] <arp1t> thx guys... i g2g. thx 4 all d help!!! appreciated!
[10:58] <wiehan> kmdm: Ok, I read that you can do a mbr and a partition table backup with dd and fdisk and then partition backups with Partition image
[10:58] <Leszczoman> Severian: Oh, thanks:)
[10:58] <wiehan> kmdm: Is that a wise way to do it?
[10:58] <mohan_> hi .. pls anybody... my usb based sound card not working..
[10:58] <mohan_> previously it was working
[10:58] <relive> join
[10:58] <mohan_> i added karmic as repository and done some upgrades regarding sound
[10:58] <kmdm> wiehan: You can backup the entire hard drive with dd - although personally I'd use a Windows program which doesn't also copy the freespace, but then that is somewhat offtopic to this channel ;)
[10:58] <linduxed> is there a guide that describes how to get the latest nvidia drivers in jaunty?
[10:58] <wiehan> kmdm: I just have no popping clue how you would restore that at a later stage (I am so used to norton ghost)
[10:59] <office> zhane, kill gnome-power-manager
[10:59] <mohan_> and now it is not working
[10:59] <kmdm> wiehan: You'd switch the args to if= and of= around
[10:59] <kmdm> wiehan: To be honest, if you're used to Norton Ghost - just use that?
[10:59] <kerebrus__> linduxed: there are but I wouldnt really recommend that depending on your card.
[10:59] <mobi-sheep> Slart: I ran the vbetool on my laptop.  <_<
[10:59] <ganesh> mohan_: yes.. frm bangalore
[10:59] <mohan_> ganesh: hey.. me too frm bangalore
[10:59] <Slart> mobi-sheep: it worked? it worked on my desktop..
[11:00] <wiehan> kmdm: For some reason norton ghost gives so many errors and even has problems saving to external had from my gf's laptop, thus I want a linux sollution
[11:00] <mohan_> ganesh: frm which area?
[11:00] <mobi-sheep> Slart: Yup.  I had to restart as I have no way to ssh in at the moment. :\
[11:00] <Severian> ganesh, Do you have really big ears?
[11:00] <kmdm> wiehan: I'm gonna /msg you since this is about to get offtopic to #ubuntu. :)
[11:01] <Slart> mobi-sheep: hmm.. mine just popped back up..
[11:01] <wiehan> kmdm: what does the count=1 and bs=512 (block size =512 but can that be anything, should it be a precise number or anything?)
[11:01] <mohan_> Severain: don't say like that..
[11:01] <kmdm> wiehan: It can be a precise number if you only want to backup a portion of the hard drive and not all of it
[11:02] <Severian> mohan_, no offense was intended to ganesh.
[11:02] <mobi-sheep> wiehan: Run a LiveCD (Suggestion) or Wubi (Fake Suggestion) on the laptop.
[11:02] <mohan_> Severian: not to him.. but for our god..
[11:02] <ganesh> Severian:hahaha... i diojn hav though lord ganesh has
[11:04] <Severian> mohan_, None was intended for Lord Ganesh, either.  I apologize, if it was taken that way.
[11:04] <mohan_> Severian: no prob.. are u too from india?
[11:04] <xenocrates> hi, just wondering about the cube desktop spin feature thing... i can make it into a cube and spin around 4 sides, but if i have 6 desktops it makes it a hexagon. can i have 6 desktops on a cube using top and bottom?
[11:05] <ganesh> Severian: hey its fine..:)
[11:05] <Severian> mohan_, I am from Texas.  I used to work for a company from Bangalore.
[11:05] <mohan_> Severian: Oh.. ok..
[11:05] <mobi-sheep> xenocrates: You're not thinking productive at the moment. :o
[11:05] <Severian> xenocrates, Desktops onlu go on the sides.
[11:06] <joss> how to turn on kwin compositor?
[11:06] <mohan_> Has anybody have idea regarding sound?
[11:06] <m0u5e> Slart: sorry, i tried fullscreening a flv video file and it crashed ubuntu -_-;
[11:06] <mohan_> i mean sound problem
[11:07] <Slart> m0u5e: ah.. annoying
[11:07] <m0u5e> Slart: dunno if it happens with VLC, but it happens with mplayer and the xv video driver
[11:08] <Severian> mohan_, Are you running 9.04 with both jaunty and kosmic repositories?  That is a recipe for lots of things not working.
[11:08] <Slart> mm.. got to get me some of those kosmic updates ;)
[11:09] <mohan_> Severian: yes.. thats the problem..
[11:09] <Severian> mohan_, I suggest you wipe and reinstall.
[11:09] <xenocrates> on the sides? really?? is there any reason you cant have a desktop on the top and bottom? i think it would look sweet
[11:09] <m0u5e> does vlc not support ssa/ass subtitles? :(
[11:10] <mohan_> Severian: oh god..
[11:10] <Slart> xenocrates: I think general developer laziness.. that's all
[11:10] <Severian> mohan_, I am running kosmic on a test machine.  It is good to try it.  But mixing versions like that is not good.
[11:10] <mohan_> Severian: oh..
[11:10] <bcj> m0u5e: http://www.jakeludington.com/ask_jake/20070424_how_to_play_ssa_files.html
[11:10] <Slart> xenocrates: you would have problems with what direction to use as "up".. things would have to spin aroudn.. it would probably get weird
[11:10] <Slart> !9.10
[11:11] <zhane> office, how to kill it?
[11:11] <bcj> m0u5e: If you do a google search you should be able to find exactly what you need :)
[11:11] <mobi-sheep> mohan_: I use Karmic Koala on the production machines and high-availability system servers all times. :)
[11:11] <mohan_> Severian: do u know what are all the sound related packages of ubuntu?
[11:11] <nickgrey147> has anyone had there dyndns account locked when using ddclient ?
[11:12] <mohan_> mobi-sheep: then what would be going on my system?
[11:12] <mobi-sheep> mohan_: I don't know. :|
[11:12] <Severian> mohan_, No.
[11:12] <m0u5e> bcj: what if it is an embedded subtitle though?
[11:12] <Kanagaraj> Pls any body tell about INDIC on-Screen Keyboard
[11:12] <Slart> nickgrey147: I've had no such problems.. but the dyndns people are pretty stingy about update intervals and such
[11:12] <m0u5e> bcj: and a lot of ssa/ass subs have custom fonts and stuff... 6__6;
[11:13] <bcj> http://www.videolan.org/doc/play-howto/en/ch03.html
[11:13] <Severian> nickgrey147, I think Slart has it.  Don't update too often.
[11:13] <nickgrey147> Slart: o ok , i had it set to 600
[11:13] <mobi-sheep> nickgrey147: I use no-ip myself and it's in repos too.
[11:13] <nickgrey147> although the pc rebooted like 3 times in a row
[11:13] <Slart> nickgrey147: check their site.. they will ban you pretty quickly
[11:13] <bencrisford> My computer's being really slow, getting really hot, the fans working his arse off and this error wont go away :'( - http://i39.tinypic.com/15g9xf5.jpg
[11:14] <bcj> m0u5e: I'd be surprised if the subtitle isn't encoded such that it can be played back using any system font with the appropriate characters.
[11:14] <nickgrey147> it hasnt happend in awhile , but iam scared it happens again , the pc is off site :/
[11:14] <ganesh> whats the command to send private msg?
[11:14] <lstarnes> ganesh: /msg
[11:14] <bencrisford> My computer's being really slow, getting really hot, the fans working his arse off and this error wont go away :'( - http://i39.tinypic.com/15g9xf5.jpg
[11:15] <bencrisford> http://i39.tinypic.com/15g9xf5.jpg - that error is really freaking me out
[11:15] <Severian> mobi-sheep, I can tell you were joking.  In the last cycle, I only had a day or two when the test version was not very usable.  But, mohan_ real problem was not using karmic, but mixing it with jaunty.
[11:15] <canton> bencrisford: sudo apt-get remove tracker :)
[11:15] <nickgrey147> corrupt harddrive
[11:15] <mobi-sheep> bencrisford: There was an error while performing indexing -- Index corrupted -- Start reindexing all contents.
[11:15] <nickgrey147> :P
[11:15] <bencrisford> mobi-sheep: I did that, and it doesnt fix it
[11:15] <nickgrey147> lol
[11:15] <mohan_> Severian: oh..
[11:15] <bencrisford> canton: Ill try that thanks
[11:16] <Slart> bencrisford: that isn't very serious.. indexing is just the desktop search thingy..try restarting it.. or don't use it at all
[11:16] <kmdm> bencrisford: mobi-sheep: There's a known Ubuntu/Jaunty bug about this - search launchpad
[11:16] <bcj> bencrisford: Try doing a disk check.
[11:16] <bencrisford> its being really slow too :(
[11:16] <bencrisford> but thanks
[11:16] <bencrisford> ill remove tracker
[11:16] <bencrisford> see if that sorts it
[11:16] <FloodBot1> bencrisford: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:16] <mobi-sheep> Severian: Ya.  It's the receipt for troubles. :)
[11:16] <dva5912> Running a Nvidia Gefore 7200 on my machine. got screenlets installed and its showwing that my nvidia core temp is 104 C... IS that about normal? Or do i need to blow the fan on it?
[11:17] <Severian> mohan_, When trying the test versions of Ubuntu, the best advice I found was this.  If you are ever offered to do a partial upgrade, refuse and try again later.
[11:17] <Kanagaraj> An information for you all The latest APTonCD is not working in ubuntu9.04
[11:17] <mohan_> Severian: ok..
[11:17] <nickgrey147> dva5912: open you box and look if the vga card fan is spinning
[11:17] <Kanagaraj> I had installed an old version of APTonCD and it is working fine
[11:17] <mobi-sheep> bencrisford: Tracker is useful for indexing contents but if you know where things are all times, then you don't really need it.  You installed tracker?  I don't think Jaunty came with GUI tracker... but rather a small library for nautilus integration.
[11:17] <dva5912> nickgrey147: has no fan
[11:17] <kmdm> bencrisford: mobi-sheep: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/tracker/+bug/346912
[11:18] <bencrisford> kmdm: Ty
[11:18] <kerebrus__> dva5912: has no fan ...
[11:18] <kmdm> bencrisford: You could enable jaunty-proposed and see if the proposed package helps you
[11:18] <nickgrey147> dva5912: hmm , ok :P no idea , my gpu runs at like 63 c full load :P
[11:18] <dva5912> kerebrus__: no. has a heat sync and thats it.
[11:19]  * dva5912 thinks its time to purchase an fan unit
[11:19] <bencrisford> im gonna reboot again i think, if it isnt sorted ill come back on here ;), thanks guys
[11:19] <alexb92> hey guys ever since ive upgraded to 9.04, i havent been able to connect to the internet
[11:19] <nickgrey147> lol
[11:19] <dva5912> I really dont like this thing ideling at 103 right now
[11:19] <alexb92> im an absolute beginner here so is there a way to fix?
[11:19] <mobi-sheep> bencrisford have a windows mindset.  :)
[11:20]  * kmdm grins
[11:20] <jals> are there any up to date guides for getting video on an ipod for ubuntu?
[11:20] <dva5912> nickgrey147: would it help if i took the side panel off and blew a box fan into it?
[11:20] <nickgrey147> alex92
[11:20] <nickgrey147> use pppoeconf
[11:20] <Severian> alexb92, on one machine, I had to go in and reconfigure my ethernet port.  It did not take longs and worked fine after that.
[11:20] <mobi-sheep> jals: Use VLC to convert  videos.
[11:20] <m0u5e> bcj: oh it actually plays embedded ssa/ass subs fine... but it keeps repeating the same "chapters" :(
[11:20] <nickgrey147> alexb92: and delete network-manager , and if u want to use the /etc/network/interfaces file :P
[11:20] <joobaby> hi, I upgraded to jaunty the other day, since then no sound works in skype, internet flash does  not work, and it simply runs less smooth, any ideas?
[11:20] <jals> mobi-sheep, thanks, will look into that now
[11:20] <alexb92> how do u do that? sorry like i said im a newbie when it comes to this
[11:20] <nickgrey147> to edit the local ip*
[11:21] <mobi-sheep> jals: You might want to find out what file format / container iPod support first.
[11:21] <bcj> m0u5e: It might be worth trying google and/or the VLC channel.
[11:21] <nickgrey147> alexb92: consol sudo pppoeconf
[11:21] <mobi-sheep> m0u5e: Try VLC 1.0 RC2.  >_>
[11:21] <dva5912> fing a... i put on a black screen and the cpu just rose a mark
[11:22] <dva5912> sorry gpu*
[11:22] <Severian> alexb92, System/Preferences/Network Connections
[11:22] <Xolruya> #join zezenia
[11:22] <Xolruya> #join
[11:23] <alexb92> im running pppoeconf right now
[11:23] <Xolruya> #join zezenia
[11:23] <nickgrey147> nyc
[11:23] <Butcher> quick question - how do I make the terminal show when I type in the password?
[11:23] <Severian> Xolruya, I think you want  /join #zezenia
[11:23] <greato> I want to access F: drive of Windows XP from Ubuntu how to do that?
[11:23] <mobi-sheep> Severian: I think he's spamming.
[11:23] <greato> Help Me !!!!! I want to access F: drive of Windows XP from Ubuntu how to do that?
[11:23] <dva5912> what would it do if i blew a box fan into the case? would it cool it at all?
[11:24] <nickgrey147> greato: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[11:24] <boss_mc> !repeat | greato
[11:24] <jrib> !ntfs > greato
[11:24] <KiRiLoS> I tried to install kdenlive then for some reason my pc crashed,i hard restarted.Now some packages are stuck and i cant remove them no matter what i tried,i cant even install the whole program:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/184891/
[11:24] <SnowKitty> dva5912
[11:24] <boss_mc> !ntfs-3g > greato
[11:24] <alexb92> ok ive run the pppoeconf and it says that  the access concentrator of your provider did not respond
[11:24] <Severian> dva5912, the fan would crash into the motherboard and break it.
[11:24] <SnowKitty> i wouldnt put it too close to the case, magnets and stuff
[11:24] <nickgrey147> alexd92: dsl ?
[11:24] <SnowKitty> but yeah it should cool it a lil bit
[11:24] <alexb92> i have even tried going into firefox and just typing in the router address and even that doesnt display
[11:24] <alexb92> yep its dsl
[11:24] <SnowKitty> i used to do it
[11:25] <SnowKitty> but it sucks in ALOT of dust
[11:25] <dva5912> Severian: dobt iy
[11:25] <dva5912> it*
[11:25] <Severian> dva5912, as a diagnostic aid, technicians blow air into a case from external fans all the time.
[11:25] <nickgrey147> alexd92: type sudo plog
[11:25] <nickgrey147> and maybe it took sum time
[11:25] <dva5912> Severian: well ill see if it cools any
[11:26] <Severian> dva5912, I have no idea what dobt iy means.
[11:26] <Butcher> doubt it
[11:28] <alexb92> nickgrey147: plog does nothing
[11:28] <nickgrey147> alexd92: no out put ?
[11:28] <alexb92> nope
[11:28] <KiRiLoS> I tried to install kdenlive then for some reason my pc crashed,i hard restarted.Now some packages are stuck and i cant remove them no matter what i tried,i cant even install the whole program:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/184891/
[11:28] <alexb92> ive typed in sudo plog and it doesnt ask for the password
[11:28] <nickgrey147> lol
[11:28] <alexb92> it just appears in the console and thats it
[11:29] <nickgrey147> its nopt meant to
[11:29] <alexb92> no dialogue no nothing
[11:29] <nickgrey147> run pppoeconf again
[11:29] <nickgrey147> make sure ur pass is right
[11:29] <nickgrey147> then enter enter
[11:29] <ganesh> how do i copy and paste a file the same directory from commandline?
[11:29] <dva5912> oh yeah thats cooling it off somewhat
[11:30] <rww> ganesh: cp source_goes_here destination_goes_here
[11:30] <dva5912> down to 100
[11:30] <jrib> !cli > ganesh
[11:30] <dva5912> 99
[11:30] <dva5912> 97
[11:30] <dva5912> :) and it just keeps falling
[11:30] <alexb92> ok im running pppoeconf again
[11:31] <alexb92> last time i remember i had to fix up my interfaces file to fix it
[11:31] <alexb92> my interfaces file now seems to be the same as before
[11:31] <alexb92> auto lo
[11:31] <Severian> alexb92, plog is just a shell script to look at /var/log/ppp.log or /var/log/syslog   Try looking at those directly.
[11:31] <alexb92> i face lo inet loopback
[11:31] <dva5912> so now from 105 to 90 C
[11:32] <KiRiLoS> I tried to install kdenlive then for some reason my pc crashed,i hard restarted.Now some packages are stuck and i cant remove them no matter what i tried,i cant even install the whole program:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/184891/
[11:33] <dva5912> k i need a fan definently. its down to 85. Do they make fans that i can just put over it? or do i have to buy a pci model
[11:33] <Superplanky> allo
[11:33] <alexb92> ok what am i looking for in syslog?
[11:34] <Severian> alexb92, I don't know.  I was just trying to get you past the plog problem.
[11:35] <Severian> dva5912, Are you asking whether they make fans to install on video cards?  If so, then yes.
[11:36] <dva5912> actuly im asking, what brand should i go with. Im defenently getting one Severian
[11:36] <KiRiLoS> I tried to install kdenlive then for some reason my pc crashed,i hard restarted.Now some packages are stuck and i cant remove them no matter what i tried,i cant even install the whole program:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/184891/
[11:36] <Severian> KiRiLoS, Have you tried fixing broken packages.    What kind of video card is it?  What is the main video chip?
[11:37] <KiRiLoS> Severian, i click that and nothing happens.
[11:38] <alexb92> hmm
[11:38] <dva5912> Severian: its a Nvidia Gefore 7200. Neveer came with one... I was thinking about getting this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/EVERCOOL-SB-RV-Rocket-V-PCI-Slot-System-Cooler-Dual-Fan_W0QQitemZ380119929376QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5880e9d220&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50
[11:38] <alexb92> severian: u know how before u were talking about interfaces file? do i edit that?
[11:39] <Severian> KiRiLoS, Sorry.  I'll look for something and come back.
[11:40] <Severian> dva5912, That would probably do fine, if you have an open slot on the correct side of the video card.
[11:40] <mobi-sheep> Is there a better command to search a bunch of files for a keyword than "cat * | grep lolcat"
[11:40] <dva5912> Severian: yes i do.  wow 105 - 80 C... big change
[11:40] <dva5912> thanks
[11:40] <jrib> mobi-sheep: just grep -R ...
[11:40] <Severian> alexb92, I don't remember referring to an interfaces file.  I pointed you to a couple of log files.
[11:41] <SnowKitty> i was running on an old nvidia geforce FX5200 for a while, it was an OEM dell card with no fan
[11:41] <SnowKitty> i taped the fan from an old slot 1 pentium 2 CPU to it lol
[11:41] <mrwes> mobi-sheep, sudo updatedb then locate 'whatever'
[11:41] <alexb92> woops sorry
[11:41] <jrib> mrwes: that won't search inside files
[11:41] <mrwes> ahh
[11:42] <Severian> dva5912, I think I have one video card with a fan.  I usually look for cards that don't have them.  I do tend to have pretty good ventilation in my cases from front mounted fans.
[11:42] <mrwes> jrib: grep -i -n ?
[11:42] <KiRiLoS> I tried to install kdenlive then for some reason my pc crashed,i hard restarted.Now some packages are stuck and i cant remove them no matter what i tried,i cant even install the whole program:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/184891/
[11:42] <jrib> mrwes: if he wants those options, sure
[11:42] <alexb92> hmm so is there anything we can do?
[11:43] <jrib> !anyone | alexb92
[11:43] <dva5912> Severian: the only thing that gate way did for my case was to have this stupid piece on the front that i can take off for more ventalation. plan out stupid. other than that all i got is a CPU fan and a large sys fan
[11:43] <jrib> alexb92: erm, wrong factoid, but please just repeat your question instead of asking that
[11:43] <mobi-sheep> Rephrase: Is there a command to find a specific file by finding a specific keyword inside the said file?
[11:44] <jrib> mobi-sheep: the command I gave you...?
[11:44] <usicow> I've got a laptop with ubuntu on it, if I SSH into it, and put a USB stick into it, how can I browse whats on the stick? I cant see it in /media.
[11:44] <Severian> KiRiLoS,   Look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=401232
[11:44] <mobi-sheep> jrib: That doesn't work.  It's same as "cat * | grep lolcats"
[11:44] <_10ur_> hii
[11:44] <jrib> mobi-sheep: it's not the same, but how it does it not do what you want?
[11:45] <mobi-sheep> jrib: I'm looking for a particular file by looking for a text keyword.
[11:45] <mrwes> usicow: what /dev is the usb drive?
[11:45] <jrib> mobi-sheep: yes.  So use the command I gave you.
[11:45] <alexb92> is there a way to ping the router?
[11:45] <Slart> mobi-sheep: you have checked the man page for grep, haven't you?
[11:45] <mobi-sheep> jrib: grep just give me the line / message but does not say which file ?
[11:45] <jrib> mobi-sheep: pastebin
[11:45] <Severian> dva5912, I has one somewhat recent gateway system.  It has the worst ventilation of any of my computers.  Now that I think about it, it does crash from the heat every once in a while.
[11:45] <mobi-sheep> jrib: -R ---> Recursively under all directories.  I have no directory.  Just bunch of files.
[11:46] <usicow> mrwes: I'm not sure, how can I tell?
[11:46] <jrib> mobi-sheep: pastebin please
[11:46] <dva5912> Severian: wouldent surprise me. i think i might just invent a side panel fan to instal on this thing
[11:46] <mobi-sheep> jrib: I can't.  I'm searching for an old conversation.  You get the idea.
[11:47] <jrib> mobi-sheep: feel free to drop the -R but that just works in a more general setting.  I don't understand why you aren't pastebinning your attempt at running the command I gave you
[11:47] <Butcher> How do I make it so I can see feedback when i enter my password in the terminal?
[11:47] <jrib> make up some example
[11:47] <mrwes> usicow, from the terminal type sudo fdisk -l (lower case L)
[11:47] <boss_mc> jrib: it would contain e-mail adresses and private data
[11:47] <mrwes> usicow, see if the drive is listed /dev/sdb1 or something like that
[11:48] <jrib> mobi-sheep: the point is grep will list filenames by default when you do grep foo file1 file2 ...
[11:48] <Slart> mobi-sheep: just check the -l switch in the man page for grep
[11:48] <usicow> mrwes: yep, its there as /dev/sdb1
[11:48] <gidna> Hi
[11:48] <davidh38> hey guys anyone know how to install skype?
[11:48] <davidh38> on 9.04?
[11:48] <KiRiLoS> Severian, this could work,but the packages i have problems with are not in there!
[11:48] <gidna> How can I install java to play games?
[11:48] <mrwes> usicow: now type sudo mkdir /media/usb
[11:49] <mrwes> usicow, then sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mediat/usb
[11:49] <usicow> mrwes: done
[11:49] <Slart> mobi-sheep: but jrib is correct.. grep prints the filename first.. then the matching line
[11:49] <usicow> mrwes: fantastic :) thanks!
[11:49] <Severian> KiRiLoS, Well, one option would be to get them.  Didn't you say there were just a few problem packages.
[11:49] <jrib> Slart, mobi-sheep: -H is the actual option, but it gets turned on by default for multiple files
[11:49] <mrwes> usicow, you want to read and write to it correct?
[11:49] <KiRiLoS> Severian, yeah two packages,but how could i get them?
[11:50] <usicow> mrwes: but the strange thing is, I'm pretty sure that if I did this via gnome, it just works.. would that be right?
[11:50] <gidna> How can I install java to play games?
[11:50] <jrib> !java > gidna
[11:50] <mrwes> usicow, uh?
[11:50] <boss_mc> !java
[11:50] <ongky> hi
[11:50] <Severian> KiRiLoS, from the repositories.  What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[11:51] <KiRiLoS> Severian, 9.04,since these are causing the problems i think i already got em,let me check
[11:51] <usicow> mrwes: ignore that.. but regarding reading/writing.. yes, what should I do so I can read and write everything on the stick?
[11:51] <KiRiLoS> Severian, yeap i got them installed.
[11:51] <Severian> KiRiLoS, Does that mean you are OK now?
[11:51] <KiRiLoS> Severian, packages swh-plugins and ttf-dejavu-extra
[11:51] <mrwes> usicow, first what's the username on the box? Type sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername /media/usb
[11:52] <mobi-sheep> Slart, jrib:  grep -l answered my question.  However, I fail to understand something which jrib were pointing out.  I used grep as a second command (using pipe) and by using pipe, it does not display the lines.  So I tried what you guys were "hinting" and I used grep as a command.   Slart + jrib.  It does display a file --> then content.  Thank you. :)
[11:52] <KiRiLoS> Severian, nope! still i cant install the whole package(Kdenlive) nor i can remove it!
[11:52] <mrwes> usicow, and finally sudo chmod -r 755 /media/usb
[11:52] <Makuseru> Hi, When I went to record some things today using Jack and Ardour I opened everything like normal, but today I wasnt getting any input from my USB Microphone. So I checked everything and everything seemed ok in Ardour and hardware wise, so I checked the options in Jack Control, and for some reason it isn't seeing my USB microphone under "Input Device" anymore. I tried moving the microphone to different ports and everything else, but It just
[11:52] <Makuseru> wont see it. Does anyone know why Jack would stop recoginizing this device it's previouslyt had no problems with, and how I could fix this?
[11:52] <jrib> mobi-sheep: note -l stops on first match
[11:53] <Rigongia> /me waves his hands
[11:53] <mrwes> heh
[11:53] <Severian> KiRiLoS, you ran the command to install those two packages.   The command from the ubuntuforum page.
[11:53] <dva5912> If i were to run water cooling in my case how much further beyond 80C could i get my gpu?
[11:53] <mobi-sheep> jrib: Thanks.  So I don't need to use "cat * | grep" as that is pointless.  I have lot of linux commands to learn. :)
[11:53] <mrwes>  Rigongia use /action instead of /me :)
[11:54] <jrib> mobi-sheep: google useless use of cat :)
[11:54] <Rigongia> thanks mrwes :D
[11:54]  * mrwes sees Rigongia waving his hand
[11:54] <Rigongia> /action takes a sit
[11:54] <Slart> mobi-sheep: then you're not feeding grep many files.. you're probably feeding grep one file at a time.. then it doesn't output the filename
[11:54] <KiRiLoS> Severian, sorry but i dont understand which command you are talking about :(
[11:54] <Severian> dva5912, You probably would not get it past 100 degrees, because water boils there.
[11:54] <mrwes> shrug
[11:54] <Severian> KiRiLoS,  at the bottom of  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=401232
[11:55] <usicow> mrwes: that sounds like it would work.. but when I issue the chown command I get chown: changing ownership of `/media/usb/dsc_0532.jpg': Operation not permitted.. that happens for all files on the stick..
[11:55] <mrwes> usicow, did you use sudo chown ?
[11:55] <usicow> mrwes: yep
[11:55] <mrwes> hrmm
[11:55] <dva5912> Severian: true. Would it, could it possibly go lower?
[11:55] <KiRiLoS> Severian, i tried that,but since the packages that are causing the problem are NOT in that folder nothing special happens.
[11:55] <mrwes> usicow, maybe cuz you ssh'd in
[11:55] <boss_mc> usicow: what filesystem is on the usb
[11:56]  * dva5912 turns his box fan up one notch to see if it will lower the temp at all
[11:56] <hofman01> hej
[11:56] <usicow> boss_mc: fat16
[11:56] <Slart> mobi-sheep: or if you're using "cat * | grep bla" you're really sending one big blob of data to grep.. not even a file
[11:56] <alexb92> is there a way to get access to the internet or the router?
[11:56] <Slart> !sv | hofman01
[11:56] <mrwes> ahhh
[11:56] <hofman01> jestem nowym uzytkownikiem ubuntu
[11:56] <boss_mc> usicow: does that even support ownership/permissions?
[11:56] <Slart> !ps | hofman01
[11:56] <Slart> !pl | hofman01
[11:56] <Slart> bah
[11:56]  * dva5912 watches the tempretature gage go to 79
[11:56] <KiRiLoS> Severian, http://paste.ubuntu.com/184906/
[11:56] <Rigongia> out of topic question : anybody knows why with loqui i can't use the /action and /me commands ?
[11:56] <alexb92> i dont know whats wrong and i have run ifconfig into console and it says rx errors 274 and tx errors are 84
[11:56] <Severian> dva5912, sure.  With more exotic systems, it might go down to 40 something.  Really exotic systems can cool to way under ) degrees C.  It depends on how crazy you are.
[11:56] <Makuseru> dva5912: Ive had a box-fan next to my computer for about a week now.
[11:57] <usicow> boss_mc: not sure :) all I can see if that all the files are owned by root:root.. but I think I can do everything I want as long as I sudo it..
[11:57] <hafer> pomoże ktoś z NetBeans?
[11:57] <mobi-sheep> Slart: That's quite true.  I never thought of that approach.
[11:57] <usicow> thanks mrwes and boss_mc.
[11:57] <dva5912> Makuseru: really helps doesnt it?
[11:57] <mrwes> sure
[11:57] <Severian> KiRiLoS, you need to run that command for the two troublesome packages.
[11:57]  * dva5912 smiles in joy as it hits 75
[11:57] <Rigongia> usicow : try splitting the thing in two. First do a sudo su and then do the chown thingy
[11:57] <canton> usicow: try using -o uid=xxx,gid=xxx when mounting fat/ntfs devices, put your uid/gid instead of the xxx
[11:58] <Makuseru> dva5912: Very. Gets a bit chiilly with a fan on your legs all the time however.
[11:58] <boss_mc> usicow: canton++
[11:58] <KiRiLoS> Severian, ok,where can i find these packages ? It's not in /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:58] <imi> hello
[11:58] <guntbert> !pl | hafer
[11:58] <dva5912> Makuseru: i got my tower on the desk with the fan on it.. not too bad. but papers are going everywhere
[11:58] <Severian> dva5912, Really exotic systems can take it under 0 degrees C.  I don't know what ) degrees C is.
[11:58] <boss_mc> usicow: and add exec to the options if you want to run binaries off the stick too
[11:59] <imi> what packages to install to get the proper man pages when issuing man 2 read?
[11:59] <hafer> nie uzyskałem tam pomocy na ten temat
[11:59] <usicow> ok
[11:59] <Slart> !english | hafer
[11:59] <hafer> i need help wit IDE NetBeans
[11:59] <dva5912> severian... 0 is freezing. so how to heck .....that would kill it woudlent it?
[11:59] <Severian> KiRiLoS, Are you sure?  It looks like they are there.
[11:59] <boss_mc> !ask | hafer
[12:00] <lstarnes> imi: it might be manpages-dev
[12:00] <Severian> dva5912, Really exotic systems can use liquid nitrogen.  It can go a wee bit below 0 degrees C.
[12:00] <Slart> dva5912: why would below 0 temperatures kill something mechanical? your house dies when it's cold outside? your car?
[12:00] <dva5912> lol liquid nitrogen!? for the "intensive" gamer right ? that would be funny.
[12:01] <dva5912> my car yes... :P
[12:01] <imi> lstarnes, thank you.
[12:01] <KiRiLoS> Severian, i get error with packages : ttf-dejavu-extra & swh-plugins , but the folder got these : http://paste.ubuntu.com/184911/
[12:01] <Slart> dva5912: you need a better car then =)
[12:01] <hafer> I started using that Ide. Somebody has tutorial
[12:01] <boss_mc> dva5912: water cooled systems don't use plain water, it's filled with alcohols and oils to make it non-conductive and have higher boiling, lower freezing points
[12:02] <KiRiLoS> Severian, but all these in the folder are indeed dependencies of the app i tried to install.
[12:02] <gordonjcp> Slart: if electronics aren't designed for operating at that low a temperature, they can be damaged
[12:02] <gordonjcp> Slart: what happens to things when you cool them?
[12:02] <gidna> HI
[12:02] <dva5912> boss_mc what about if one of the lines were to suddenly break? it would ruin the pc right?
[12:02] <Severian> KiRiLoS, What were the two problem packages again?
[12:02] <imi> bye
[12:03] <gidna> I've installed Openjdk but I can't still not play java games..
[12:03] <Severian> dva5912, Failure of fancy cooling systems frequently kills the computers.  That is a risk you take.
[12:03] <gidna> what should I do?
[12:03] <KiRiLoS> Severian, swh-plugins & ttf-dejavu-extra : http://paste.ubuntu.com/184914/
[12:03] <Slart> gordonjcp: anything that isn't designed for a temperature might get damaged if used in that temperature..I doubt electronics have a that narrow span of temperatures they operate under
[12:03] <jrib> gidna: you need the plugin
[12:03] <alexb92> what needs to be changed so i can access the internet?
[12:03] <gidna> Icedtea?
[12:04] <Xolruya> why i cant log in to game? :O
[12:04] <dva5912> Severian:  ok then this is off the list because this is out only pc. il stick with the litle 13$ pci fan :)
[12:04] <gordonjcp> Slart: they do
[12:04] <Slart> gordonjcp: but this isn't really on topic here
[12:04] <Xolruya> no hjeöp
[12:04] <gordonjcp> Slart: especially if you have a hot chip like a CPU soldered to a cold PCB - <CRACK>
[12:04] <Zelfje> usually electronic operation temperatures are quite broad, most problems arise with moisture (condensation on a cold surface)
[12:04] <gordonjcp> hope you're good at SMT rework
[12:05] <Lint01> Xolruya: what are4 you talking about?
[12:05] <KiRiLoS> Severian, i had problems with other packages too(Some of the are in that folder),but i managed to remove em.
[12:06] <Xolruya> i cannot log in to game
[12:07] <alexb92> is it safe to delete the network interfaces file?
[12:07] <chazco> !unr > chazco
[12:07] <lstarnes> alexb92: I wouldn't do that
[12:07] <gordonjcp> alexb92: depends what you mean by "safe"
[12:07] <Whitewinter_> hi
[12:07] <gordonjcp> alexb92: it will make your computer very safe from people connecting to it over the network
[12:08] <gidna> I've installed all the software necessary to plya java games but I can't play them
[12:08] <gidna> what Should I do
[12:08] <gidna> ?
[12:08] <myself> hey where are the APPLICATION MENU shortcuts located in WINE so i can delete the DEAD STARTERS once i uninstalled the wine stuff MANUALLY?
[12:08] <jrib> gidna: have you installed the java plugin and restarted firefox?
[12:08] <alexb92> lol
[12:08] <Lint01> Xolruya: which one?
[12:08] <myself> found it
[12:08] <alexb92> but i want to connect to the internet that is the thing
[12:08] <chazco> Hi... is it possible to install ubuntu-netbook-remix without removing wicd?
[12:08] <alexb92> and riight now i cant even ping my router
[12:09] <canton> alexb92: i don't understand, how to do participate here when you are not connected to the internet?
[12:09] <Xolruya> zezenia game
[12:09] <KiRiLoS> Severian, any ideas ?
[12:09] <alexb92> canton: using a different computer
[12:09] <Severian> KiRiLoS, To get the first one, go to that directory and type   wget http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/swh-plugins/swh-plugins_0.4.15-0.2_i386.deb
[12:09] <alexb92> canton: the computer i want fixed i am next to right now and its running ubuntu 9.04
[12:10] <gidna> ok now it runs.. Is it openJDK necessary to run java applications? or Icedtea Java Plugin can Do the job
[12:10] <gidna> ?
[12:10] <KiRiLoS> Seveas, oh nice :P didnt thought of that.I am trying the command dpkg --force-all -i now ?
[12:10] <canton> alexb92: ok and what is your problem exactly? What is your topology and what exactly does not work?
[12:10] <KiRiLoS> Severian, oh nice :P didnt thought of that.I am trying the command dpkg --force-all -i now ?
[12:11] <janisozaur> i have installed both, evince and acroread 9.1. since i consider the latter to be a resource heavy and prefer to use evince (yet still need sometimes to use acroread), how do i change the defaults for PDF files to be opened in evince (since acroread stole the file type)
[12:11] <alexb92> canton : ok ever since i have updated to 9.04 i have not been able to get access to the internet or the router, i dont know what to fix or how to do it becoz im a complete beginner at this
[12:11] <alexb92> any help would be greatly appreciated :D
[12:11] <Severian> KiRiLoS, For the other one, do   wget http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/t/ttf-dejavu/ttf-dejavu-udeb_2.25-1_all.udeb
[12:11] <canton> janisozaur: right click on a pdf file in nautilus, tab "open with", then click, click click and click
[12:11] <slm> salut vik, amis francophone
[12:12] <Omar87> What are some programs or terminal commands I ca use to locate and undelete a certain files?
[12:12] <glaucous> slm: salut
[12:12] <Omar87> I can** use
[12:12] <canton> alexb92: ok so you have a router, how is the computer connected to it? ethernet cable or wireless?
[12:12] <alexb92> canton: ethernet. directly connected into the modem/router
[12:13] <Padhu> Application for shedules and remainers
[12:13] <KiRiLoS> Seveas, ok,i downloaded them both and i used dpkg --force-all -i to them,no errors. should i apt-get update && upgrade ?
[12:13] <janisozaur> canton, that's not what i want, since it's one-time-only, but there is a tab named "open with" in file preferences which changes this behavior permanently - solved.
[12:13] <glaucous> hi everyone, my jaunty64 takes about 20 seconds to think about booting before it actually starts.  bootchart says it's kthreadd.  doesn't anyone know how to speed it up?  where can I upload my bootchart to be examined?
[12:13] <janisozaur> canton, oh, you mention the tab. nvm...
[12:13] <canton> janisozaur: ;-)
[12:13] <linduxed> in going to enable a PPA and then upgrade some packages, but id like to have some kind of restoration point, a kind of "if things go bad i want to go back"-feature
[12:13] <linduxed> any ideas?
[12:13] <KiRiLoS> Severian, ok,i downloaded them both and i used dpkg --force-all -i to them,no errors. should i apt-get update && upgrade ?
[12:14] <gidna> I can't play java games on yahoo the applet starts but then it can't open a game
[12:14] <Padhu> I want an application for shedule and remainder and home financial accounting
[12:14] <canton> alexb92: output of ifconfig -a tells you the interface configuration, ethtool <interfacename> tells you if physical link is detected, ping helps you recover basic network problems
[12:14] <linduxed> gidna: what java plugin are you using
[12:14] <Severian> KiRiLoS, I'd try installing the main package you wanted first.  If it shows to be installed, then uninstall it and reinstall.  Forcing it may have missed dependencies.
[12:14] <canton> alexb92: so what does sudo ethtool eth0 say?
[12:15] <ganesh> how can i make a copy of file in the same directory using commandline?
[12:15] <KiRiLoS> Severian, ok.
[12:15] <canton> ganesh: cp <file> <newfile>
[12:15] <gidna> Icedtea Java Plugin
[12:15] <alexb92> canton: link detected = yes
[12:15] <glaucous> ganesh: cp filename filename2
[12:15] <reqon_zZz> night everyone
[12:15] <KiRiLoS> Severian, ! i get the error with ttf-dejavu-extra only now!
[12:15] <Severian> ganesh,  cp orig-filename copy-filename
[12:15] <canton> alexb92: fine, ifconfig eth0 says what? does the interface have an ip address in your network?
[12:15] <Slart> ganesh: are you going to ask this question many times more?
[12:16] <gidna> linduxed what could I do?
[12:16] <api984> what seems to be the problem
[12:16] <reqon_zZz> z
[12:16] <reqon_zZz> _
[12:16] <alexb92> canton: yep it has the ip address and masking address but im not sure about the broadcast address
[12:16] <ganesh> Slart: sorry but i had not got the answer before..
[12:17] <api984> tryed ping?
[12:17] <reqon_zZz> hm
[12:17] <api984> broadcast address is the 255
[12:17] <canton> alexb92: bcast address is usually calculated in the right way when ip and subnet mask are correct
[12:17] <Slart> ganesh: 12:30 < rww> ganesh: cp source_goes_here destination_goes_here
[12:17] <api984> the last number on ip
[12:17] <canton> api984: that's true for /24 only
[12:17] <KiRiLoS> Severian, http://paste.ubuntu.com/184919/
[12:17] <api984> yes
[12:17] <api984> what are they doing
[12:18] <dadrock> when ever i ma stating my apache its giving and error http://www.mibbit.com/pb/YAeiRA  ? can anyone help me out
[12:18] <guntbert> !who | api984
[12:18] <Padhu> please mention the application name for maintain home accounting
[12:18] <canton> alexb92: so what is the ip address of your router and what gives the command "pinc -c 3 <ip_of_your_router> back?
[12:18] <Severian> KiRiLoS, I thought the meta package would handle it.  Oh, well.    wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/t/ttf-dejavu/ttf-dejavu-extra_2.23-1_all.deb
[12:18] <ganesh>  Slart:cp: `dialog-information.ogg' and `/usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/dialog-information.ogg' are the same file
[12:18] <glaucous> hi everyone, my jaunty64 takes about 20 seconds to think about booting before it actually starts.  bootchart says it's kthreadd.  does anyone know how to speed it up?  where can I upload my bootchart to be examined?
[12:18] <linduxed> in going to enable a PPA and then upgrade some packages, but id like to have some kind of restoration point, a kind of "if things go bad i want to go back"-feature
[12:18] <linduxed> any ideas?
[12:18] <alexb92> canton: router ip = <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:18] <Slart> ganesh: yes.. you have to give the new file a different name
[12:19] <woods> shit
[12:19] <ziroday> woods: please don't swear
[12:19] <woods> ok
[12:20] <woods> i just have a try!
[12:20] <KiRiLoS> Severian, http://paste.ubuntu.com/184921/
[12:20] <alexb92> canton : ping: sendmsg: operation not permitted
[12:20] <AgentHeX> is there a way to sleep a RAID-5 array to conserve power and prevent wear-and-tear?
[12:20] <ziroday> linduxed: there is no real restoration point. You can remove the PPA and the remove the packages, and then reinstall them to rollback
[12:20] <canton> alexb92: sudo ping, what did you do with your computer to disallow normal user to use ping?
[12:20] <Slart> AgentHeX: can't you put the physical drives to sleep? or the raid software wakes them up again?
[12:20] <ganesh> Slart: yes..but in gui (mouse) copy and paste will rename to file.ext(copy) by itself..so i thought it would be same with commandline too..sorry once again
[12:20] <flajann> What's the deal with Amarok on 9.04 -- it won't play!
[12:20] <AgentHeX> Slart: haven't actually tried.  how do i know if a drive is actually asleep?
[12:21] <Slart> ganesh: nope.. with cp you have yo add the (copy) thing yourself
[12:21] <alexb92> canton: nothing thats what i dont understand i dont know whats wrong with it
[12:21] <AgentHeX> Slart: i have one OS drive and six RAID-5 drives (in two different arrays)
[12:21] <Gamarok__> !avidemux
[12:21] <Severian> KiRiLoS, it worked.
[12:21] <KiRiLoS> Severian, it seems that evertything is ok now :P although my fonts are kinda weird now :P
[12:21] <Slart> AgentHeX: hmm.. I'm not really sure.. hdparm perhaps? there might be some other way too
[12:21] <canton> alexb92: ok what does sudo ping <router_address> do?
[12:21] <Gamarok__> !info avidemux
[12:21] <Severian> KiRiLoS, try the liberation font.  I like it a lot.
[12:22] <alexb92> canton: same thinng : operation not permitted
[12:22] <dadrock> whenever i am starting my apache it giving error that my port 80 is already listning how to free that port ?
[12:22] <linduxed> ziroday: hmmm, i suspected someone would say that
[12:22] <KiRiLoS> Severian, would you mind reminding me where i can change the fonts?(Gnome)
[12:22] <AgentHeX> Slart: and do you know if there's any way to prevent bit rot?  i have an offline utility that can recover bad sectors (usually), but i'm looking for more active maintenance that could keep the machine online and maybe write the data back to the drives and correct using the parity data if necessary.  i've got three 1TB drives, and the density is undoubtedly prone to errors.
[12:23] <canton> alexb92: did you play around with apparmor or selinux or stuff like this? root (and putting sudo before a command executes it using the root user) is normally allowed to do anything.
[12:23] <KiRiLoS> Severian, ok got it,apperance
[12:23] <Severian> KiRiLoS, The option I have been thinking about, but have not suggest yet is that I think you should probably clear your apt cache.  Then, do an upgrade.
[12:23] <linduxed> ziroday: i just hope it like usual with ubuntu that it will want to uninstall ubuntu-desktop....
[12:23] <canton> alexb92: give me the output of ls -l /bin/ping
[12:23] <glaucous> hi everyone, my jaunty64 takes about 20 seconds to think about booting before it actually starts.  bootchart says it's kthreadd.  does anyone know how to speed it up?  where can I upload my bootchart to be examined?
[12:24] <Slart> AgentHeX: hmm... preventing bit rot.. haven't had any problems.. you could add error correcting information .par files comes to mind.. there might be some easier way though
[12:24] <KiRiLoS> Severian, i did that myself :P
[12:24] <Severian> KiRiLoS, You found the font change place you wanted?  There are several places where fonts are specified for different things.
[12:24] <AgentHeX> Slart: cool.  thanks.  i'll look into hdparm, though i just figured mdadm would just wake the drives up.
[12:24] <guntbert> canton: the issue of alexb92 looks like a case of firewall
[12:24] <Severian> KiRiLoS, good.
[12:24] <KiRiLoS> Severian, yeap i did,it seems that my fonts changed to Sans
[12:24] <canton> guntbert: oh that can be true, ack
[12:24] <alexb92> canton: what happened was i was upgrading form 8.10  to 9.04 when a blackout happened so i had to use aptget in recovery mode to fix everything and insstall everything again
[12:25] <ziroday> linduxed: uninstalling ubuntu-desktop is fine it just a metapackage and as long as you have the dependencies you can reinstall it
[12:25] <Malicia> hi all
[12:25] <alexb92> canton: so that worked and 9.04 is working but i dunno what could be the cause. i dont have a firewall installed on the computer that i am aware of
[12:25] <trancefat> Hi All, where can i get a jre for eclipse such that i can copy and paste it inside the eclipse folder?
[12:25] <fornix> is there a way i can copy only those files which are modified after a certain time from a folder. ls -t does list all entries according to modification time. i am wondering how to use it
[12:26] <KiRiLoS> Severian, thank you so much :D
[12:26] <Slart> fornix: find
[12:26] <canton> alexb92: try sudo iptables -L -n
[12:26] <Hamza> canton: Perhaps have alex check out iptables?
[12:26] <KiRiLoS> Severian, btw any idea about where i could find the default font configuration ? :P
[12:26] <guntbert> alexb92: please pastebin the output of sudo iptables -L
[12:26] <alexb92> ok
[12:26] <canton> what does it show
[12:26] <Severian> KiRiLoS, sure.  Good luck and enjoy Ubuntu.
[12:27] <Slart> fornix: something like  find -mtime bla bla bla   -exec copy {} /backupfolder/
[12:27] <Severian> KiRiLoS, Do you mean what file hold the font names specified for the desktop?
[12:27] <Slart> fornix: there's probably lots of small errors in that.. but you get the idea
[12:27] <bart_> hey guys
[12:27] <guntbert> canton: you suggestion was more sensible then mine if he has no access to the network :)
[12:27] <guntbert> *than
[12:28] <canton> guntbert: i did not tell him to use pastebin
[12:28] <KiRiLoS> Severian, no,i mean where i could find what type of fonts does ubuntu use by default,so i can change them back to the default
[12:28] <AgentHeX> Slart: you think running md5sum on everything on an array would cause the system to detect bit rot at the RAID level (disk sector goes bad, use parity to recover)?
[12:28] <canton> only to look at the output
[12:28] <fornix> Slart: thanks reading man page for find
[12:28] <artikanet-10943> ciao
[12:28] <Slart> AgentHeX: probable.. but I'm not sure
[12:29] <Severian> KiRiLoS, No, I don't know.  I can look at a fresshly installed 9.04 machine and see what it says.  If you'll give me a moment to start it up.
[12:29] <guntbert> canton: thats what I meant being more sensible than my suggestion, and -n is good too
[12:29] <alexb92> canton: guys thank u for all ur help i dont mean to be a trouble
[12:29] <Padhu> friends anybody tell me the application name for home finanacial accounting
[12:30] <alexb92> canton: sorry i cant paste the information, im using a windows laptop now and the computer i am fixing is a desktop
[12:30] <KiRiLoS> Severian, ofc,take your time :)
[12:30] <Padhu> alexb92: use mibbit. it is possible
[12:30] <alexb92> canton: what r u looking for in that output
[12:30] <wcauchois> can anyone tell me what the php5-mysql package is?
[12:30] <KiRiLoS> Severian, System>Preferences>Apperance>Fonts
[12:31] <wcauchois> i thought you had to build php with mysql support, so is that a separate version of php5?
[12:31] <canton> alexb92: ok ok we know, is the output of the above (iptables) command showing something like that: http://pastebin.com/m7564f1e
[12:31] <wcauchois> because from the description it sounds like its some sort of separate extension module
[12:31] <canton> alexb92: have a look at the "ACCEPT"s and that there are no "rules"
[12:31] <Padhu> wcauchois: it is excatly correct
[12:31] <wcauchois> Padhu: which one? :P
[12:32] <alexb92> canton: no they all say policy drop
[12:32] <canton> alexb92: fine, that's your problem. so try the following three commands:
[12:32] <Severian> KiRiLoS, Application font, Document font, and Desktop font are Sans 10.  Window Title font is Sans Bold 10, and Fixed Width font is Monospace 10
[12:32] <canton> alexb92: sudo iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT
[12:32] <canton> alexb92: sudo iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT
[12:33] <canton> alexb92: sudo iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
[12:33] <canton> and then try pinging again
[12:33] <KiRiLoS> Severian, wow,i have exactly the same,but again the font seems kinda weird.wtf
[12:33] <glaucous> Padhu: www.mint.com
[12:33] <Padhu> wcauchois: compile from source code
[12:34] <wcauchois> i'm sorry, i don't understand; are you telling me i have to compile from source code?
[12:34] <alexb92> canton: yep they all now say policy accept
[12:34] <canton> alexb92: ping?
[12:34] <Padhu> glaucous: what about this link
[12:35] <canton> alexb92: first try a ping in your local network (ip, not name), then an ip ouside of the local network (i.e. <IP_ADDRESS>), then a hostname or url like www.google.com
[12:35] <canton> this should all work without sudo
[12:35] <alexb92> canton: sudo ping <IP_ADDRESS> = ping: sendmsg: operation not permitted
[12:36] <canton> wtf
[12:36] <alexb92> canton: exactly
[12:36] <alexb92> canton: i said the exact same thing when the internet wasnt working and i thought all my configurations were correct
[12:36] <alexb92> canton: i havent been using ubuntu long, just less than a year and im slowly learning everything
[12:37] <Hamza> alexb92: Is this a wired connection?
[12:37] <alexb92> canton: ive tried pinging google.coom but it says : unknown host
[12:37] <nibbler> alexb92: iptables -L
[12:37] <AgentHeX> Slart: hey.  evidently, hdparm has a -y option to force standby.  it successfully spins down RAID disks.  when i query the network share, it hangs until the drive is spun back up.
[12:37] <canton> alexb92: at least we have found the iptables problem but i am just wondering what else can cause the above message
[12:37] <canton> nibbler: already done
[12:37] <alexb92> hamza: yes its a wired connection
[12:37] <nibbler> ah i c, what is current iptables -L
[12:38] <Kalmi> alexb92, when did it stop working?
[12:38] <linduxed> ziroday: well the thing is that every time it has asked me to uninstall the metapackage it has dragged along the deps
[12:38] <alexb92> kalmi: when i upgraded  to 9.04
[12:38] <KiRiLoS> Severian, any ideas about the font? :/
[12:38] <Kalmi> alexb92, can you pm me the output of ifconfig?
[12:39] <Kalmi> alexb92, or... does everything look alright in the output of ipconfig?
[12:39] <alexb92> kalmi: no i cant im using a different computer
[12:39] <snowrichard> sorry for any garbage typed while I was away, I have cats
[12:39] <Kalmi> alexb92, *ifconfig
[12:39] <imaginativeone> heh heh...
[12:40] <mower26> Hey all
[12:40] <imaginativeone> I need help reconnecting to my windows workgroup
[12:40] <Kalmi> imaginativeone, domain?
[12:40] <alexb92> canton: lol ud find this hilarious, before i had 274 rx packet errors , now i have 358
[12:40] <alexb92> canton: and before i had 85 tx packet errors now i have 110
[12:40] <imaginativeone> Kalmi: not sure what you mean...
[12:41] <mower26> I have installed Ubuntu 9.04 on my laptop and when using mozilla it flickers, can some help me out.
[12:41] <canton> alexb92: while trying to execute ping have a look on "sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog" on another console and look if any message appears while trying to execute "sudo ping <ip_of_your_router>
[12:41] <alexb92> canton: it keeps getting worse and worse.... its a ssimple wired connection, not that hard, i would have been on the internet years ago if this was in windows lol
[12:41] <gnr> alexb92: have you check the nat table?
[12:41] <alexb92> gnr: no i havent
[12:41] <canton> alexb92: your system is something f** up
[12:41] <Hamza> KiRiLoS: In 8.10, enabling FreeType rendering tends to make fonts look better. Perhaps this might be of interest - http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/10/15/tweak-your-font-rendering-for-better-appearance/
[12:41] <gnr> alexb92 #iptables -t nat -L -n
[12:42] <Severian> KiRiLoS, I don't know why it is displaying differently for you.  I can think of several things.  Can you get around it?  Like, by selecting a different font?
[12:42] <KiRiLoS> Severian, hmm i'll check free type if that doesnt help i guess i'll change the font :P
[12:42] <murad> hi I need to change my mac in UBUNTU help me
[12:43] <mower26> help please!!!
[12:43] <dusty_> Hey guys, I have Ubuntu 9.04 installed.  I want to try out slackware, so i have installed slackware onto some free space - i installed it under 1 partition (/dev/sda7) and told it not to install a bootloader as I want ubuntu to handle this... how do i add the slackware operating system to grub so i can dual boot and choose between ubuntu and slackware ?  I Have added an entry into menu.lst but it won't boot saying invalid device.. any ideas?
[12:43] <alexb92> gnr: warning all config files need .conf : etc/modprobe.d/irda- utils will be ignored same with oss-compat
[12:43] <Kalmi> murad, permanently?
[12:43] <murad> not really
[12:43] <dusty_> I added root (hd0,6) makeactive chainloader +1
[12:43] <dusty_> but it errors when I select it..
[12:44] <imaginativeone> murad: vmware?
[12:44] <murad> ya
[12:44] <gnr> alexb92 : irda is for infra-red
[12:44] <Hamza> alexb92: sudo sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward - does it say enabled btw?
[12:45] <imaginativeone> murad: what is the problem?
[12:45] <mower26> pleaseeeeeeee
[12:45] <manuel_> hola desde Sevilla
[12:45] <imaginativeone> ubuntu won't load?
[12:45] <Kalmi> murad, you can change it using the network-manager applet
[12:45] <murad> I want to change the mac add
[12:45] <canton> alexb92: did you try what i told you?
[12:45] <Kalmi> !helpme | mower26
[12:45] <imaginativeone> oh...
[12:45] <canton> alexb92: another thing: look at the output of "ifconfig eth0", there should be the string "UP" in the second line
[12:46] <alexb92> canton: yep i tried a whole bunch of crap turned up on screen
[12:46] <manuel_> Ayuda
[12:46] <Hamza> alexb92: Does ifconfig eth0 say UP?
[12:46] <imaginativeone> murad: Preferences > Network Connections
[12:47] <alexb92> hamza: no it says up broadcast running multicast
[12:47] <yadunand> hi , my system cannot start X server , the system gives error saying that the filesystem is read only
[12:47] <yadunand> any fix ?
[12:47] <kwk> Hello I have a problem with my Ubuntu 9.04 RAID 1 Installation when trying to configure GRUB. Here's my RAID setup http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/395310/ and here is the tutorial I used: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto. The proposed step is "grub> device (hd0) /dev/mapper/isw_beeaakeeaa_five" which I changed to "grub> device (hd0) /dev/mapper/isw_djfcejfjjb_Volume01" in my case. The error is: "Error 15: File not found"
[12:47] <murad>  Preferences > Network Connections ii cant find it
[12:48] <Hamza> alexb92: Ok. Try: sudo sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward - does it report 0 or 1?
[12:48] <Lillois1986> Hello !  My dvd player seems to be freeze. I can't eject my dvd. Any idea ?
[12:49] <alexb92> hamza: 1
[12:49] <murad> Preferences > Network Connections I cant find it
[12:49] <Severian> Lillois1986, kids, peanut butter?
[12:49] <Hamza> alexb92: Hmm. One moment please.
[12:50] <KiRiLoS> Severian, well,my fonts are clear enough but the problem is that it's kinda...Tall! wait i'll post a screenshot of my current font and the previous i had.
[12:50] <alexb92> hamza: ok , thank you very very very much for all of your patience, time and help it is very appreciated
[12:50] <alexb92> canton: same with you canton, i cant thank you enough
[12:50] <stavrosLinux> are dell vostro with ubuntu available? anyone knows?
[12:51] <Severian> Lillois1986, sometimes, shutting down the computer completely will release a drive that thinks it should be locked.  When you power it back on, you'll be able to eject.  Other times, you have to use the paper clip trick.
[12:51] <lorethebetter> ciao
[12:51] <lorethebetter> vorrei sapere se c'è qualcuno che mi puo aiutare
[12:51] <KiRiLoS> Severian, http://tinyurl.com/m3z97p can you see the difference?look at Applications Places System
[12:51] <gnr> Lillois1986: #eject
[12:51] <murad> how can i change my MAC ADDRESS AT ETHO
[12:52] <Hamza> alexb92: No problem. Could you please try ifconfig eth0 and tell me what is the broadcast address?
[12:52] <alexb92> hamza: <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:52] <gnr> murad: ifconfig eth0 down then ifconfig eth0 hw aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff
[12:52] <Hamza> alexb92: And what is the netmask address?
[12:53] <alexb92> <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:53] <Lillois1986> The eject command doesn't work either.
[12:53] <adac> Is there a DJ program available? or an extension to amarok or a similiar player?
[12:54] <lorethebetter> hi
[12:54] <gnr> Lillois1986: #eject -f /dev/yourdvd
[12:54] <lorethebetter> i'm italian
[12:54] <lorethebetter> i've a problem
[12:54] <KiRiLoS> Hamza, check this out,my fonts seem "taller" any ideas to fix that? http://tinyurl.com/m3z97p (Check Applications Places System)
[12:54] <lorethebetter> with bcm4311
[12:54] <FloodBot1> lorethebetter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:54] <lorethebetter> who can help me?
[12:54] <Severian> KiRiLoS, They both look OK to me.  The bottom one looks better.  Which is the current?
[12:55] <KiRiLoS> Severian, the current is the top.That's the problem :P
[12:55] <alexb92> hamza: <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:56] <krepta_> hello again, I have returned, and I've deleted ubuntu.  For some reason I could not get a boot loader called Boot Magic to boot linux, this was never a problem before on any other PC, and I think it is because linux was in an extended partition's virtual drive, rather than in a Primary partition.  So, I deleted the whole thing, and the extended partition.
[12:56] <murad>  Permission denied is comming
[12:56] <Hamza> alexb92: Did you upgrade this machine by any chance?
[12:56] <Severian> KiRiLoS, I don't have any suggestion.
[12:57] <Hamza> KiRiLoS: Odd. Is this a desktop or a laptop display?
[12:57] <Pranka> murad: Try "sudo" before the command you want to enter.
[12:57] <KiRiLoS> Hamza, desktop.It happened when i reinstalled a font package!
[12:57] <krepta_> sudo stands for something, right?  like, super user something or other...
[12:57] <KiRiLoS> Severian, it's ok you helped me enough for today!Keep up the good work!
[12:57] <lorethebetter> someone can help me?
[12:58] <gnr> stands for "superuser do"
[12:58] <Lillois1986> gnr : the eject -f command doesn't work, I pushed the eject button while ubuntu was mounting the dvd.
[12:58] <krepta_> oh, cool
[12:58] <Hamza> KiRiLoS: Do you remember the name of the font package?
[12:58] <krepta_> uhhh, so unmount it
[12:58] <Hamza> alexb92: -> Did you upgrade this machine by any chance?
[12:58] <KiRiLoS> Hamza, ofc, ttf-dejavu-extra
[12:58] <Lillois1986> but it is NOT mounted
[12:58] <krepta_> If I try installing ubuntu again, will it try to install everything into an extended partition again?  Is that normal?
[12:59] <AnAnt__> !nvidia
[12:59] <gnr> Lillois1986: #df -hT says it's not mounted?
[12:59] <Severian> Lillois1986, is there a small hole on the front panel of the DVD drive?  Most drives have an emergency eject built in there.  You use a bent paper clip to activate the switch inside.
[12:59] <forceflow> adac: try Mixxx
[13:00] <krepta_> I've done that, if the DVD is spinning up at high speed, it can be very bad for it to be ejected that way, better to power down the machine first or something.
[13:00] <AnAnt__> !nvidia | AnAnt__
[13:00] <Lillois1986> sudo umount -f /media/cdrom  ---> umount: /media/cdrom: n'est pas monté (is not mounted)
[13:00] <adac> forceflow, thx!
[13:00] <forceflow> it's not perfect, but it gets the job done
[13:00] <Hamza> alexb92, canton: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/315370 <- This bug has been reported. It's a problem with udev apparently.
[13:01] <KiRiLoS> Hamza, any ideas ?
[13:01] <Lillois1986> I see a hole on the front panel, I'm trying what you said
[13:01] <KiRiLoS> Hamza, i think there is a command for refreshing fonts or something
[13:01] <krepta_> good luck Lillois
[13:01] <mower26>  I have installed Ubuntu 9.04 on my laptop and when using mozilla it flickers. I am pretty sure it has something to do with the refresh rate.
[13:01] <raven_> hello - i need a video tool that easily provides video effects like windows-movie-maker does. in detail i need a speedup-effect - any idea? tnx.
[13:01] <Kalmi> mower26, that is unlikely
[13:01] <alexb92> hamza: yes i did
[13:01] <forceflow> raven_: try avidemux
[13:01] <krepta_> Uhm, so, does anyone know if ubuntu will try to install into a Primary partition if I try to install it again?
[13:02] <mower26> what could it be
[13:02] <Kalmi> mower26, does it also happen with the desktop effects off ?
[13:02] <alexb92> hamza: but thats stupid becoz the computers i am using a windows based except for 2 in the house, so how would i be able to fix the problem?
[13:02] <raven_> forceflow i did but i could not find a double-speed-effect
[13:02] <mower26> I have removed compiz
[13:02] <Hamza> KiRiLoS: One moment, please.
[13:02] <Severian> raven_, easily provides effect.  No such program.  There are very powerful video processing tools for Linux, but no easy one yet.
[13:02] <Pranka> krepta_: I'm not quite sure of your situation, but you can specify where you want Ubuntu to be installed in the Partition Manager.
[13:03] <raven_> Severian need not to be easy but i need such an effect ;)
[13:03] <EyeDunno> what is a good equivalent to nero for ubuntu?
[13:03] <Severian> raven_, Look at cinelerra
[13:03] <forceflow> EyeDunno: Brasero?
[13:03] <EyeDunno> can it burn dvds and whatnot?
[13:03] <EyeDunno> isos...
[13:03] <forceflow> EyeDunno: yes, it's in the standard ubuntu install installation
[13:03] <gnr> alexb92 : sorry for asking this again.. was the problem is with ping not permitted?
[13:04] <forceflow> it burns audio discs, data discs, and image files :)
[13:04] <krepta_> When I install it is basically a wizard kind of thing, I can tell it to use the whole hard drive, which means it will go into a primary partition, but I want to keep windows, so I tell it to use the free space that is available on the hard drive.  That's not a partition manager though, it's more automated and dumb user friendly.
[13:04] <EyeDunno> o
[13:04] <Hamza> alexb92: Could you please try this: sudo ./ipmasq stop and then try pinging?
[13:04] <EyeDunno> cool :)
[13:04] <Lillois1986> krepta_, the dvd is not spinning. My device just doesn't respond anymore
[13:04] <Severian> There are other programs in the works.  There is a videl framework called gmerlin that some people use to create effects like that.
[13:04] <raven_> Sevrian i am doing at the moment but where is the speedup-thing?
[13:04] <Hamza> KiRiLoS: Are you on jaunty?
[13:04] <KiRiLoS> Hamza, yeah
[13:04] <krepta_> oh, that's too bad lillois. :(
[13:04] <krepta_> Well, good for the DVD though
[13:04] <orly_owl_tv> How can I get TV out working on Nvidia NV18 GeForce4 MX  nForce GPU? I'm using the S-Video port hooked up to a PAL CRT TV,
[13:04] <orly_owl_tv> PAL-B.
[13:04] <Pranka> krepta_: There is a third option in the Partition Manager, allows you to create/edit partitions.
[13:05] <Lillois1986> I'm goint to wait until my encoding is finished, then I will reboot my laptop.
[13:05] <imaginativeone> that card is notorious for problems with Ubuntu
[13:05] <krepta_> Ok then, I'll try that.  Is there an option for NOT installing grub in the first place?
[13:05] <jals> what's the word for when a video shows the colors wrong, sort of inverted or something
[13:05] <Severian> Lillois1986, if it had a drive failure due to a power supply(the one on the drive), or a control card, there may be no way to eject short of disassembly.  I had to do that to a pioneer drive once.
[13:05] <EyeDunno> Thanks forceflow
[13:05] <forceflow> jals: bad saturation/hue settings ?
[13:05] <mobi-sheep> Bash Experts --> How would I place "ifconfig | grep 'inet addr:'| grep -v '<IP_ADDRESS>' | cut -d: -f2 | awk '{ print $1}'" to a value?
[13:05] <Pranka> krepta_: If you're not going to install Grub, then how are you going to switch between Operating Systems?
[13:06] <Lillois1986> I have this problem since I am running 9.04.
[13:06] <hoohaah> Pranka: lilo
[13:06] <jals> forceflow, saturation might be it, i need to know the term to google it heh
[13:06] <orly_owl_tv> Anyone?
[13:06] <krepta_> I have Boot Magic 8.0
[13:06] <Pranka> hoohaah: Not even Lilo.
[13:06] <forceflow> jals: if you've got a problem with the standard ubuntu movie player, it happened to me one time too: just readjust the hue/sat settings :)
[13:06] <Hamza> KiRiLoS: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=228359 <- Perhaps this might work?
[13:06] <alexb92> gnr: yes
[13:06] <Kalmi> krepta_, what is bootmagic good for?
[13:06] <jals> forceflow, it's not that so much, i ripped a dvd using VLC and it's come out wrong, even on my ipod so it's not a display issue
[13:06] <KiRiLoS> Hamza, thanks,i'll check it out and i'll let u know
[13:07] <alexb92> hamza: doesnt work it says command not found
[13:07] <jals> it's ripped badly i guess
[13:07] <forceflow> jals: probably,yes ... shame of the work :-)
[13:07] <gnr> alexb92 : then try with #nmap -sP the.ip.just.now
[13:07] <krepta_> It's good for booting any dang OS I want, I used to use it all the time with like 5 OSes, I had more than one HD to play with at the time.
[13:07] <jals> so trying to google, but not sure how to describe the problem
[13:07] <ubuntu> hi
[13:07] <mrwes> jals, check out Handbrake, it has presets for ripping DVD's to IPODs
[13:07] <Severian> raven_, ask the cinelerra people.  They do all sorts of stuff like that.  A user at a local LUG showed us time compression, but I don't know the program.  That was at least two years ago.
[13:07] <Lillois1986> By the way, encoding in x264 is faster using 64bits OS than 32 bits.
[13:08] <Kalmi> !hi | ubuntu
[13:08] <ubuntu> ANYONE USE VIRTUAL PC
[13:08] <jals> mrwes, command line though right? i'll have a look anyway
[13:08] <hoohaah> Lillois1986: not significantly
[13:08] <raven_> severian ok i'll try - tnx
[13:08] <hoohaah> may 5-10% or so
[13:08] <krepta_> I had windows 98b, dos with windows 3.11, linux, and a couple other oses all running on the same machine, using boot magic, loved the thing.
[13:08] <helper> hello, what is the name of the file to configure the runlevel to run by default /etc/ ?
[13:08] <murad> I FAILD TO CHANGE MY MAC ADDRESS ANY MORE SMART SOLUTION?
[13:08] <Hamza> alexb92: Ah yes, my mistake. 1. cd /etc/init.d 2. sudo ./ipmasq stop and then try pinging.
[13:08] <hoohaah> murad: stop shouting
[13:08] <Severian> helper, it is runlevel
[13:09] <krepta_> wait, you have beening regularly changing your MAC address?!
[13:09] <Severian> cd /etc
[13:09]  * G69 Boa tarde /Good Afternoon
[13:09] <krepta_> good morning too
[13:09] <Hamza> murad: Install the macchanger package.
[13:09] <helper> Severian the configuration
[13:09] <ubuntu> virtual pc
[13:09] <helper> Severian the configuration file there is no runlevel file in /etc
[13:09] <murad> HAMZA HOW CAN I DO IT
[13:10] <AgentHeX> Slart: thanks for all the help.  i'm testing the automatic spindown of drives to see if they'll go offline when they're idle.  not sure how it will work under RAID
[13:10] <Kalmi> !caps | murad
[13:10] <Hamza> murad: Do you want to change your mac address permanently or temporarily? And please use lowercase.
[13:10] <Severian> helper, debial does not do runlevels like you might expect.  Normal for debian systems like ubuntu is 2.
[13:10] <murad> o sorry
[13:10] <alexb92> hamza: sorry what do i type into console?
[13:10] <gnr> murad: ifconfig eth0 down then ifconfig eth0 hw ether aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff ----i did told you just now
[13:10] <krepta_> I love virtual machine, I haven't used it in a while, but it's neat.  Sure does limit things though, any OS installed in it is gonna be slower than in a real partition on the hard drive.
[13:10] <Kalmi> gnr: that's not permanent...
[13:10] <murad>  temporarily
[13:10] <Demonizer> java sux
[13:10] <helper> Severian i know , once here they give me naame of conffiguration file in /etc/ i 4got it ,
[13:10] <Kalmi> murad, Hamza: You could just use networkmanager
[13:11] <Lillois1986> hoohaah : maybe it depends on the processor. With my T7200, I had a 14 fps rate on a 32 bits ubuntu. now I have a 23 fps rate. Concerning the First pass, It didn't improve like that though
[13:11] <Hamza> alexb92: First: cd /etc/init.d (enter) Then: sudo ./ipmasq stop (enter) and then try pinging.
[13:11] <murad> kalmi: how
[13:11] <Kalmi> krepta_, xp boots faster in kvm for me :)
[13:11] <gnr> Kalmi: you can;t make it permanent , that's why it's called burn-in address
[13:11] <krepta_> Wow
[13:11] <hoohaah> helper: /etc/inittab
[13:11] <krepta_> Well, is that because it is a fresh install, and therefore less crap?
[13:11] <krepta_> hehe.
[13:11] <Kalmi> gnr, but you can get sour OS to set it everytime it boots
[13:11] <Severian> helper, hoohah got it.  I was looking it up.
[13:11] <Kalmi> gnr, *your
[13:11] <Malicia> helper, sudo telinit 3
[13:11] <Malicia> for exemple
[13:11] <Demonizer> LOL just dual booted ubuntu and xp
[13:12] <helper> hoohaah no config file in that name
[13:12] <Kalmi> murad, do you see that network tray icon?
[13:12] <hoohaah> helper: beware of typos
[13:12] <alexb92> hamza: i went into filesystem then etc and i looked in there and the file doesnt even exist
[13:12] <ddoom> is it possible to mount only one partition of a mirrored lvm setup (in case one of the mirrored drives dies)
[13:12] <krepta_> I like booting lots of things, I wish I had a nice bunch of hard drives to play with again.
[13:12] <jrib> helper: why do you want to change the runlevel?
[13:12] <helper> hoohaah copy /paste from u :P
[13:12] <gnr> Kalmi:my what?
[13:12] <midnajt> hey my audio simply stoped working
[13:12] <Kalmi> gnr, operating system
[13:12] <helper> jrib i'm studying using DVD learn linux so i want to check how to config be
[13:13] <murad> kalmi I am new so tell me details
[13:13] <jrib> !upstart | helper
[13:13] <gnr> Kalmi:what's with it?
[13:13] <ddoom> !lvm
[13:13] <jrib> helper: ubuntu uses upstart, read its documentation
[13:13] <krepta_> I love how you guys help so many people, dang, so many smart people.  Have a great day, and stuff, bye.
[13:13] <hoohaah> oh really?
[13:13] <Malicia> helper, u can create ur own /etc/inittab
[13:13] <Demonizer> wow linux is so new to me lol
[13:13] <Severian> helper, or not.  There is no inittab.  So, I'll stick with running the runlevel program as an answer.
[13:13] <Kalmi> gnr, but you can get your OS to set the MAC address everytime it boots
[13:13] <hoohaah> i havent tinkered with runlevels in a while
[13:13] <murad> kalmi I can see network icon
[13:13] <Kalmi> murad, right click->edit
[13:13] <helper> Severian ah i see , seems the /etc/inittab for fedora maybe
[13:14] <Malicia> helper, or do sudo telinit 3 to be at runlevel 3
[13:14] <hoohaah> nah, ubuntu is just innovative
[13:14] <hoohaah> a lot of other distros still use it
[13:14] <canton> Kalmi: man 5 interfaces -> hwaddress maybe?
[13:14] <hoohaah> nothing wrong with either way, really
[13:14] <Hamza> alexb92: Hmmm. Besides stopping ipmasq, I'm not sure how I could help you further. The problem's been reported here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/315370
[13:14] <Malicia> :)
[13:14] <Kalmi> canton, ubuntu is using networkmanager by default.... it has a nice gui... newbies should use that
[13:15] <helper> Malicia when  i shutdown the pc , it do restart does this make with runlevel?
[13:15] <Kalmi> murad, then select that lonely wire connection and click edit
[13:15] <guntbert> Malicia: the concept of runlevels does not really apply in ubuntu - see !upstart
[13:15] <helper> Malicia of bios ?
[13:15] <gnr> Kalmi: not permanent, there's no way unless for some old intel nic, or if you desolder and write using eeprom. If your permanent understanding is by doing at OS boot scripts.. then go on
[13:15] <Severian> redhat uses more runlevels, so it seems natural that their users are more likely to change that.  So, they make the configuration a little easier.
[13:15] <Kalmi> gnr, yeah... that's what I call permanent... and that seems permanent enough :)
[13:15] <Hamza> alexb92: I would suggest a reinstall if your system is not mission-critical.
[13:15] <alexb92> hamza: hmmso how come init.d doesnt exist? it used to before i upgraded
[13:16] <KiRiLoS> Hamza, it didnt help,fonts are the same.
[13:16] <Hamza> alexb02: init.d doesn't exist?
[13:16] <Malicia> guntbert, how ?
[13:16] <Kalmi> Hamza, a mission critival system without internet connection sounds funny :)
[13:16] <alexb92> hamza: problem is though ive installed a hell of alot of packages which i dont want  to lose
[13:16] <guntbert> !upstart | Malicia
[13:16] <Malicia> helper, I didn't understand ur question, sorry
[13:16] <Hamza> alexb92: init.d doesn't exist?
[13:16] <Severian> gnr, Kalmi, look at a program called macchanger.  You can set it up to give you a random mac address every time you boot.
[13:16] <hoohaah> not if it's mission is to be isolated from the rest of the world
[13:16] <gerald> de
[13:16] <Randomtime> Is there any way I can get ubuntu to show what it's doing at boot, instead of just the splash screen bar, it did it way back on dapper drake, but I can't seem to do it on Jaunty
[13:16] <alexb92> hamza: inet.d exists however
[13:16] <[ifroog]> !photosmart
[13:16] <Zelfje> alexb92 lookin: /etc/init.d
[13:16] <gerald> search ubuntu10
[13:17] <[ifroog]> !hp
[13:17] <Malicia> guntbert, ubottu ok, I'm not well awake yet, :p
[13:17] <Zelfje> srry inet misread
[13:17] <adac> forceflow, mixxx was exactly what I searched for! thx dude!!
[13:17] <hoohaah> [ifroog]: you can play with the bot in a /query
[13:17] <mfc_coder> Randomtime, uslpash is the name of the splash
[13:17] <gerald> so so
[13:17] <Hamza> alexb92: I'm reasonably certain that you're dealing with a botched upgrade.
[13:17] <Malicia> btw sysV was a nice thing ;p
[13:17] <gnr> Kalmi:You don't have to say it's wrong. Just add that you can do it "permanently" by adding it to boot script... daa.... you're confusing the questioner...
[13:17] <Hamza> Kalmi: :)
[13:17] <[ifroog]> hoohaah, Not, Playing. Just couple of queries.
[13:17] <gerald> im not speking englich
[13:17] <TheBrayn> howdy folks
[13:17] <alexb92> hamza: yep im in there  now what do i look for?
[13:18] <Severian> Canonical is working on completely changing the init stuff.  There are good reasons to do this, so read about it if you are interested.
[13:18] <forceflow> adac: no problem!
[13:18] <gerald> ubuntu
[13:18] <helper> Malicia when i do , telinit 0 or shutdown -h 0 , system reboot instead of shutdown
[13:18] <ciphergoth> I'm running Jaunty on an ancient IBM laptop with an Intel chipset, and I see lots of errors in rendering: in particular, fonts are covered in little black rectangles.  It seems to get worse with time.  Switching off acceleration fixes it.  Sound familiar to anyone?
[13:18] <alexb92> hamza: i thought so, but i thought it would have been all fixed when i went and did system recovery
[13:18] <murad> there is nothing called  lonely wire connection only 1 option  "edit wireless connection"
[13:18] <zhoujingrui> my ubuntu no sound
[13:18] <ishbibenob> does anyone know how to make tracker index multiple hard drives?
[13:18] <guntbert> !de | gerald
[13:18] <gerald> ade
[13:18] <Hamza> alexb92: Hmmm.
[13:18] <zhoujingrui> who can help me?
[13:18] <Malicia> helper, oh?
[13:19] <ubuntu> anyone use virtual pc
[13:19] <Severian> Randomtime, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the quiet verbs.  I do that on all my systems.
[13:19] <guntbert> !anyone | ubuntu
[13:19] <midnajt> ok I just can't get my audio to work
[13:19] <Hamza> alexb92: Does this work: /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[13:19] <midnajt> yesterday worked and since the new start it doesn't
[13:19] <helper> Malicia yes
[13:19] <midnajt> no changes were made
[13:20] <Kalmi> !sound |midnajt
[13:20] <gnr> gtg...
[13:20] <murad> kalmi:there is nothing called  lonely wire connection only 1 option  "edit wireless connection"
[13:20] <alexb92> hamza: im in the folder what file are u looking for in there?
[13:20] <Kalmi> murad, you only have a wireless connection?
[13:21] <Hamza> alexb92: Type: sudo ./ipmasq stop (enter)
[13:21] <ishbibenob> how do you make tracker index external hardrives other than home directory?
[13:21] <zhoujingrui> how to solve ubuntu no sound?
[13:21] <alexb92> hamza: sudo ./ipmasq : command not found
[13:22] <ciphergoth> !sound | zhoujingrui
[13:22] <midnajt> ubottu: thank you I got it now some how the device was changed
[13:22] <helper> Malicia so ?
[13:22] <Hamza> alexb92: Okay. Does /etc/init.d/networking restart do anything?
[13:23] <Malicia> helper, what about watchdog?
[13:23] <alexb92> hamza: yes its working lets see what that does
[13:23] <helper> Malicia never used it
[13:24] <Eoch> can portable ubuntu load drivers for a device that the host device doesn't have drivers for?  or does it just point to the host drivers?
[13:24] <Malicia> helper, me neither...
[13:24] <helper> Malicia lol
[13:24] <_10ur_> hamza türkmüsün
[13:24] <wildc4rd> is there a channel on Freenode more for discussing compiling drivers from source?
[13:24] <alexb92> hamza: no dhcpoffers received
[13:25] <Kalmi> alexb92, what network card do you have?
[13:25] <Malicia> helper, could you give the output of $runlevel?
[13:25] <Kalmi> alexb92, lspci can tell you
[13:25] <helper> Malicia N 2
[13:26] <alexb92> kalmi: doesnt work
[13:26] <ishbibenob> how do you get tracker to index numerous hard drives?
[13:26] <Hamza> alexb92: That is expected behavior. My bet is that your networking subsystem's been corrupted because of the upgrade. I'd recommend a reinstall.
[13:26] <Zappza> Cheerio!
[13:27] <Kalmi> alexb92, what?
[13:27] <alexb92> hamza: tthe last thing that was processed says starting ntp server ntpd ... done
[13:27] <Kalmi> alexb92, lspci?
[13:27] <alexb92> hamza; theres just a flashing box
[13:27] <Zappza> Does anybody here have any experience or knowledge about driver compiling?
[13:27] <Hamza> alexb92: What happens when you type lspci and press enter?
[13:27] <xenocrates> hi, i'm having trouble with my desktop background on ubuntu. i can set it fine but when i restart it goes back to default. when i go to change it again it suddenly 'appears'.???
[13:27] <Kalmi> Zappza, why do you need to compile drivers?
[13:28] <alexb92> hamza: ispci : command not found
[13:28] <tavi> who says to me how i can put proxy on konversation or on pidgin
[13:28] <tavi> ?
[13:28] <jals> hey guys, here's the colour issue i'm having, how would you describe this to google it? http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4930/primer.png
[13:28] <Hamza> alexb92: lspci says command not found?
[13:28] <Malicia> alexb92, lspci
[13:28] <Malicia> not ispci
[13:28] <Hamza> alexb92: l not i - lspci.
[13:29] <ms_> benalia
[13:29] <Fzang> is it possible to permanently gain root access to a directory like /usr/share/ or is it built into linux that you can't have access to them?
[13:29] <Malicia> Hamza, he typed i instead of l
[13:29] <alexb92> oh right
[13:29] <helper> Malicia so ?
[13:29] <jsn> I'm having trouble with nm-applet. It doesn't launch a window. The relevant portion of the strace output is here:  http://pastebin.com/ddf1cb61
[13:29] <helper> Malicia  i told u output : N 2
[13:29] <chris_> laurent ?
[13:29] <tavi> someone
[13:29] <Malicia> helper, I don't know why , sorry
[13:29] <tavi> ?
[13:29] <jsn> Fzang, you probably don't really want permanent access.
[13:29] <jsn> Fzang, and there would be different ways to do it, depending.
[13:30] <Fzang> I don't want? Why? Dangerous?
[13:30] <alexb92> hamza: ohk sorry about that
[13:30] <Malicia> helper, and what about if u do halt
[13:30] <xenocrates> does anyone know how i can make my desktop picture stay that way after restarting?
[13:30] <alexb92> hamza: sorry about that, a bunch of info is now on screen
[13:31] <jsn> Fzang, well, I've been using linux for a decade now, and have never needed to change permissions on the stuff set up by the filesystem. It's not radically dangerous, but it does make it easy to hork your system.
[13:31] <Hamza> history
[13:31] <jsn> xenocrates, that would depend on the window manager.
[13:31] <salsero> can somebody recommend to me an esata RAID 1 controller for two 500 mb external HDDs that is compatible with linux? and also, how do I configure such a device, does it even need configuring?
[13:31] <Kalmi> alexb92,  LSPCI (lowercase)
[13:31] <Fzang> I'll just leave the thought and sudo my way out then :)
[13:31] <ms_> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[13:32] <jsn> Fzang, if you do find yourself needing to do this over and over, well, changing it just on /usr/share/whichever-application is a better idea than all of /usr/share
[13:32] <alexb92> kalmi: thanks, i know ive  already done that and info is now on the screen
[13:33] <Malicia> helper, could u paste what says : ls -al /etc/rc0.d/K45named
[13:33] <jsn> Wow, it seems like xchat has stolen all focus, I can't click anywhere outside it.
[13:33] <m1dn1ght> Can someone please tell me how when I am connected to a remote system via ssh I can run a program that will appear on the remote display?
[13:34] <nicklas_> yo
[13:34] <helper> Malicia no such file like this
[13:34] <olinuxx> bye
[13:34] <Malicia> helper, so :  ls -al /etc/rc0.d/
[13:34] <Malicia> what does it says?
[13:34] <Zappza> @Kalmi - Because I need to use a wireless usb stick, and the drivers (rt2870) aren't supported.
[13:36] <Kalmi_> Zappza, where did you get stuck?
[13:36] <helper> Malicia http://pastebin.com/m7c2d53dd
[13:36] <alexb92> hamza: what do i do now?
[13:37] <flintwingel> m1dn1ght: where X based app are displayed depends on the DISPLAY shell variable.... try "export DISPLAY=:0.0 ; xterm" when you are ssh'd in from another system
[13:37] <Ranakah> anybody know if it's any problem with acer travelmate 7530 and ubuntu jaunty?
[13:38] <alexb92> hamza: i have an idea. i have a wireless adaptor, should i plug that in and run aptget and fix up everything?
[13:38] <Malicia> helper, what does it say : cat ../init.d/halt
[13:38] <scunizi> Ranakah: boot the live cd and see if it works.. if it does there then you should be fine.
[13:39] <Ranakah> am.. via wubi :D
[13:39] <nicklas_> !vpn
[13:39] <nicklas_> !pptp
[13:39] <Malicia> helper, naturally, commands called when u want to run runlevel 0 are in this file.
[13:39] <scunizi> Ranakah: that's not the same thing.. boot the live cd by itself from a "computer off" status.
[13:40] <helper> Malicia http://pastebin.com/m14478417
[13:40] <JoTraGo> Jaunty recognises my several ntfs & fat32 partitions and mounts them when clicked in nautilus. How can I make them mount automatically at boot up?
[13:40] <Malicia> helper, if I don't answer u it's because I went have some lunch, so ask other people here ;)
[13:40] <m1dn1ght> flintwingel: thanks for the help
[13:40] <scunizi> !mount > JoTraGo
[13:41] <BretW> Hi guys, I'm looking to install 9.04 on my laptop. Now it has a Broadcom 4311BG wireless card. On the compatibility, one piece says the 4311 works out of the box and another says it doesn't. Is it worth risking installing it?
[13:42] <scunizi> BretW: does it work running the live cd?
[13:42] <scunizi> !broadcom > BretW
[13:43] <BretW> That's what I was going to test, but I don't seem to be able to find a CD at the moment to burn it onto, plus scunizi that link you just sent me doesn't have 9.04 on it
[13:43] <scunizi> BretW: probably similar enough.. but really the first test is the live cd.
[13:44] <Chryzo> hello
[13:44] <nicklas_> yo
[13:44] <Chryzo> got a small problem with X11 and nvidia graphic card on a laptop
[13:44] <nicklas_> !ask
[13:45] <AlienDK> <.<
[13:45] <Chryzo> i want to make an external CRT display my main display. Unfortunately, the CRT display has a resolution of 640*480
[13:45] <nicklas_> !specific