[02:37] <jihedamine> is there any documentation on the appindicator python API ?
[13:19] <jihedamine> Using an appindicator, how to display text instead of an icon in the gnome-panel please?
[13:20] <kklimonda> jihedamine: I don't think you can
[13:21] <jihedamine> because they made the date indicator, I saw the code, but I didn't get it :)
[13:21] <kklimonda> I don't think date indicator uses appindicator directly
[13:22] <jihedamine> yeah that was mu impression, they're using a gtk menu directly
[13:22] <jihedamine> my*
[13:22] <kklimonda> jihedamine: also you shouldn't really add any text - it's against sedign guidelines
[13:22] <kklimonda> design*
[13:24] <jihedamine> however I saw in mark's post that he thought of the possibility to put an icon or text
[13:24] <jihedamine> text can be useful in some cases
[13:24] <jihedamine> anyway
[13:25] <jihedamine> I'll use regular gtk
[22:12] <xnox> Hello =) are there perl binding to create AppIndicator?
[22:13] <xnox> if not is there a bug filed / which project should I file it for?
[22:57] <qense> xnox: There are no, and there is no bug for it. You could file a bug against https://launchpad.net/indicator-application but I think you will have to solve it yourself.
[23:00] <qense> hi vish!


[18:11] <fishscene> aww… Well, I've waited this long for ubuntu touch. I suppose I can wait until next release.
[18:11] <sergiusens> dpm, lool fixed now
[18:11] <dpm> ah, cool sergiusens
[18:12] <davmor2> pmcgowan: so for me if I use settings→bluetooth the spinner would just keep spinning, but the hcitool displayed it.  However charles ask me to install bluetooth-tools which meant dropping into RW on the phone and it connected straight away in RW mode
[18:12] <ogra_> sergiusens, so can i has an MP for the seed change ? (just to make sure i dont typo etc)
[18:12] <MDesigner> weird, I don't see any ringtones on mine
[18:12] <MDesigner> Settings > Sound > Ringtone. none of the new tones are there
[18:13] <JHOSMAN> See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1232350
[18:13] <fginther> sergiusens, do you know much about the out-of-memory killer? Can it kill autopilot?
[18:13] <ogra_> MDesigner, they should be in since image #98
[18:13]  * ogra_ definitely sees them
[18:13] <MDesigner> hmmm. I just did phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel saucy
[18:13] <sergiusens> ogra_, ok, but let's have dpm review too ;-)
[18:13] <ogra_> yeah
[18:13] <sergiusens> fginther, yeah, anything can be kill with oom
[18:13] <davmor2> MDesigner: you might be on the version before the ringtones landed
[18:13] <ogra_> late enough in the cycle that each extra pair of eyes helps
[18:13] <pmcgowan> davmor2, I did the same and ran bt-monitor and it still did not work at the time
[18:14] <ogra_> davmor2, i released 99 today
[18:14] <ogra_> davmor2, he should have gotten it
[18:14] <MDesigner> davmor2: ahh ok
[18:14] <davmor2> ogra_: ah okay
[18:14] <dpm> ogra_, sergiusens, if we're going to modify the seeds, there is a MP for that already https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-seeds/add-qtorganizer-plugin/+merge/191458
[18:14] <MDesigner> davmor2: I'll update again later
[18:14] <popey> MDesigner: adb shell system-image-cli -i
[18:14] <ogra_> dpm, awesome, thanks
[18:14] <popey> MDesigner: that will tell you what version you're on
[18:14] <popey> current build number: 99
[18:14] <popey> thats what I'm on
[18:14] <MDesigner> build number: 0
[18:14] <MDesigner> I win
[18:15] <MDesigner> ;)
[18:15] <popey> hah
[18:15] <sergiusens> dpm, ogra_ so not as an sdk-lib?
[18:15] <MDesigner> I wonder why mine says 0. strange..
[18:15] <popey> MDesigner: i dont think that flashed properly
[18:15] <ogra_> sergiusens, oh, yeah, i think it should be one
[18:16] <MDesigner> popey: hmm.. maybe I'll run the flash cmd again
[18:16] <dpm> ogra_, sergiusens, ok, on it
[18:16] <popey> MDesigner: paste the output in http://paste.ubuntu.com/ if it's interesting
[18:16] <sergiusens> dpm, ogra_ well being one or not is a matter of huge discussion
[18:16] <MDesigner> will do.
[18:16] <sergiusens> dpm, ogra_ that will make it an sdk 13.10 api
[18:17] <ogra_> well, do we plan to drop it in 14.04 ?
[18:17]  * ogra_ wouldnt think so
[18:17] <ogra_> so its all fine then
[18:17] <dpm> the calendar app should still use Qt Organizer in 14.04
[18:17] <ogra_> dpm, right, the question is more, is it useful to others
[18:19] <ogra_> (for which i guess the answer is "yes" ... i.e. i can use a calendar widget in my $random_app)
[18:19] <dpm> ogra_, yeah, it can be useful to Contacts, for instance, but I'm guessing the contacts app is C++ and doesn't need the Qt Organizer QML plugin right now? bfiller, renato_?
[18:20] <renato_> dpm, the contacts app is c++ and QML
[18:20] <renato_> dpm, the contacts app has components that is shared with other apps like dialer-app and message-app
[18:21] <renato_> qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-contacts0.1
[18:21] <MDesigner> popey: the only fishy thing is that it takes a LONG time on this step: INFO:phablet-flash:Waiting for recovery image to boot
[18:21] <MDesigner> popey: black screen on the phone
[18:22] <MDesigner> but it's on.
[18:22] <popey> yeah, can take a while
[18:22] <MDesigner> ok
[18:24] <dpm> ogra_, MP updated as per the sdk-libs discussion https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-seeds/add-qtorganizer-plugin/+merge/191458
[18:25] <ogra_> i wonder why the front page didnt update
[18:25] <ogra_> still shows it in touch (i see it fine when clicking the commit directly)
[18:26] <dpm> yeah, weird
[18:26]  * ogra_ pulls it just in manually
[18:30] <davmor2> MDesigner: do you see ringtones now?
[18:30] <MDesigner> still flashing. taking a while
[18:30] <MDesigner> definitely taking longer than last time
[18:30] <MDesigner> stuck on "Waiting for recovery image to boot"
[18:32] <MDesigner> hmmm..
[18:36] <MDesigner> ok something's wrong
[18:38] <MDesigner> ok I pressed the power button once, and now I have the Google llogo
[18:38] <MDesigner> something definitely went wrong though. it was "waiting for recovery image to boot" for a long time
[18:39] <MDesigner> ERROR:phablet-flash:Command 'adb push /home/samh/Downloads/phablet-flash/imageupdates/pool/device-5ba3031cb0d6fc624848266edba781e3e821b6e1e8dd21105725f0ab26077d0a.tar.xz /cache/recovery/' returned non-zero exit status 1
[18:40] <davmor2> popey, ogra_: ^ any ideas
[18:47] <sergiusens> lool, dpm_ https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/ubuntu-calendar-app/gettext/+merge/191481
[18:48] <lool> sergiusens: can't happrove it, but approved it
[18:48] <popey> happroved
[18:50] <daker> top-happroved!
[19:00] <sergiusens> lool, can you kick ci for that?
[19:03] <mfisch> tedg: is there an upstart event that will tell a system job that a user session is starting? start on unity8 doesn't work as a system job
[19:03] <mfisch> tedg: or a hacky way for a session job to emit a system event?
[19:03] <MDesigner> popey: phablet-flash is acting up. really truly stuck at "Waiting for recovery image to boot"
[19:03] <jibel> barry, lool latest u-d-m spams syslog with debug messages, 1 upgrade from 92 to 99 generated more than 2MB of log messages, I'll file a bug
[19:04] <popey> MDesigner: add -b
[19:04] <popey> so, phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel saucy -b --no-backup -d mako
[19:04] <MDesigner> ok.
[19:04] <tedg> mfisch, So lightdm emits events for session starting.  Is that what you're looking for?
[19:06] <mfisch> tedg: yeah
[19:06] <mfisch> desktop-session-start thats it!
[19:08] <MDesigner> popey: trying now
[19:09] <popey> cool
[19:09] <MDesigner> INFO:phablet-flash:Waiting for recovery image to boot
[19:09] <MDesigner> pasting that just as a timestamp
[19:09] <popey> ☻
[19:10] <sergiusens> MDesigner, popey use sudo, if that works, something wrong wth udev rules for device; are you on saucy?
[19:10] <MDesigner> i'm on raring
[19:11] <MDesigner> desktop
[19:11] <popey> ahhh
[19:11] <MDesigner> sorry, I thought "saucy" in this case referred to the phone, not the desktop OS
[19:12] <MDesigner> so just run the same command, except s/saucy/raring ?
[19:12] <popey> nope
[19:12] <popey> the phone runs saucy
[19:13] <popey> just add sudo i think sergiusens is suggesting, to workaround an adb issue
[19:14] <sergiusens> popey, saucy is the only one with the full udev rules, we never backported them
[19:15] <popey> ah bummer
[19:15] <popey> sorry MDesigner seems I gave you a bum steer, I assumed you were on saucy
[19:15] <sergiusens> popey, well I think it's in precise too
[19:15] <popey> so yeah, basically the command I gave you with sudo on the front
[19:24] <MDesigner> ok, running:  sudo phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel saucy --no-backup -d mako
[19:29] <sergiusens> ogra_, can you look at https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/click-sync/all_store/+merge/191486
[19:29] <sergiusens> lool, ^^
[19:36] <barry> jibel: okay
[19:45] <MDesigner> popey: got stuck again. weird.
[19:45] <MDesigner> popey: do I need to kill the adb server?
[19:45] <medri> I tried to reflash my galaxy nexus with ubuntu-touch
[19:47] <popey> MDesigner: sergiusens may be able to help here..
[19:47] <sergiusens> MDesigner, popey not right right now though
[19:50] <sergiusens> MDesigner, just run with a --debug flag and pastebin that to me, I'll look later, but most likely tomorrow
[19:51] <MDesigner> will do, thanks!
[19:51] <medri> okay, once again
[19:51] <medri> I tried to reflash my galaxy nexus with ubuntu touch
[19:52] <medri> now it is stuck on the black Google-screen
[19:52] <medri> any Idea how to
[19:52] <medri> reflash it?
[20:10] <Guest78176> Is the stable release still due for tomorrow ?
[20:11] <cwayne> Guest78176: yep
[20:13] <Guest78176> and i just installed the saucy unstable
[20:13] <Guest78176> lol wow
[20:14] <Guest78176> whats new from the newest saucy image ?
[20:14] <Guest78176> erm, what's different about the stable compared to the latest saucy image, should I say
[20:17] <kedivess> i guess it sould be more "stable" with some bugs fixet and it should have more features...
[20:17] <medri> no idea for my bricked phone?
[20:18] <Guest78176> the installable apps dont install currently
[20:18] <Guest78176> on my nexus 7 anyway
[20:18] <Guest78176> mostly it's pretty stable, apart from the unfinished apps
[20:18] <Guest78176> medri define bricked
[20:19] <kedivess> i hope they will fix the bluetooth....
[20:20] <kedivess> on my nexus 4 the bluetooth does not work....
[20:20] <pmcgowan> kedivess, should work for most headsets
[20:20] <Guest78176> yeah the settings panel dont work atm
[20:20] <Guest78176> had to turn the wifi on via the top bar
[20:20] <medri> stuck on the google logo while booting
[20:21] <Guest78176> medri: google android stock firmware, directly from google
[20:21] <Guest78176> will auto flash and restore your phone
[20:22] <Guest78176> Also are the apps HTML5 based or native .deb packages ?
[20:22] <kedivess> i installed the cdimage and i can turn on/off the bluetooth, but it does'n search any devices...
[20:23] <medri> even if I just want to reinstall ubuntu-touch?
[20:23] <Guest78176> you can use fastboot
[20:23] <Guest78176> put your phone into restore mode, or whatever its called
[20:24] <Guest78176> and use fastboot to flash the images
[20:24] <Guest78176> also tutorial for that on google, but that didnt work for my nexus 7
[20:25] <ogra_> medri, boot into recovery and start over (use: phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel saucy -d maguro)
[20:25] <Guest78176> anyone got a link to a release schedule ? or ETA on the release timezone used
[20:27] <atomhund> patience, patience
[20:27] <atomhund> =)
[20:28] <popey> Guest78176: we don't have a release schedule
[20:28] <|Chris|> Sony Xperia Z (Yuga, flipped) is listed as working, but there is no image on cdimage. Does anyone know if somebody has dumped the working image somewhere?
[20:28] <Guest78176> popey: so it might not get released tomorrow then?
[20:29] <popey> Guest78176: No, I'm saying we don't have a specific time or timezone at which it's released
[20:32] <atomhund> Does anyone know if it will be possible to close Apps? I like to keep the phone tidy... just like my desktop
[20:33] <Guest78176> keep your finger on the running apps till the X appears
[20:33] <omac> There's a guy at work that has the LG Nexus 4.  I was drooling because all I want is to install the Ubuntu Touch rom on it, but it's not mine. argh.
[20:33] <omac> Can I run a recent image of ubuntu touch in an emulator on my ubuntu 13.04 box?
[20:33] <|Chris|> omac, I'm the only one in the office without a nexus device. :(
[20:33] <atomhund> Guest78: Oh? I didn't know. Thanks!
[20:33] <Guest78176> nexus 7 are pretty cheap now
[20:34] <Guest78176> I picked mine up for £140
[20:34] <popey> omac: we're working on emulator support, not ready yet
[20:34] <omac> thks popey.
[20:36] <RobbyF> holla.
[20:40] <kedivess> ubuntu touch 1.0 should be read-only or read/write ?
[20:40] <omac> i checked out googles nexus 4 buy page.  they're available to buy again. 250$ for the 16GB. version. I would like to resell these phones with Ubuntu Touch on them providing that they can work on the Wind Mobile network.  I'll help people install it and give ubuntu 50% of whatever I sell.  The problem is I don't have anything to sell yet.  If there is something I would like to sell in the Ottawa area, this is it along with Ubuntu Laptops with
[20:40] <omac> a no fuss backup/restore  solution.  Everywhere I go, everyone is wanting to backup/restore their data.
[20:41] <RobbyF> Guest78176, 2am UTC i'm was told
[20:41] <ogra_> lol
[20:41] <ogra_> who told you that
[20:41] <ogra_> we definitely dont have a fixed time for the release
[20:42] <ogra_> it will happen most likely tomorro afternoon UTC/GMT
[20:42] <RobbyF> Didie Roche saaid "
[20:42] <RobbyF> The image will be kicked no later than 2am UTC. "
[20:42] <kedivess>  2 am UTC ? really?
[20:42] <ogra_> RobbyF, thats just an image build
[20:42] <RobbyF> aww ok.
[20:42] <RobbyF> I should just not speak lol
[20:42] <Guest78176> i wont even be in tomorrow afternoon
[20:42] <Guest78176> damn
[20:43] <Guest78176> ogra_: is it work flashing the new image? I have the latest build of saucy atm
[20:43] <Guest78176> work/worth
[20:43] <ogra_> Guest78176, just update then ... :)
[20:43] <Guest78176> oh you can update ?
[20:44] <ogra_> sure, as long as you use the system-image install
[20:45] <Guest78176> oh is that through your phablet software ?
[20:45] <ogra_> no OTA on the phone
[20:45] <kedivess> i use the cdimage and i update via terminal...
[20:45] <ogra_> er, well, yes, the initial install has to be through phablet-flash indeed
[20:45] <mike_col> hay have question... its possible to have a change log for soucy-Preinstalled from 15 Oct
[20:46] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2013-10-14-112340.png  thats what the OTA update looks like
[20:46] <Guest78176> ogra_: Yeah that's what I was getting at, I'm using a nexus 7
[20:46] <ogra_> mike_col, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/
[20:46] <mike_col> thx :D
[20:46] <Guest78176> popey: is that included in the image ?
[20:46] <popey> yes
[20:47] <ogra_> yes
[20:47] <Guest78176> where :(
[20:47] <Guest78176> ive looked all over it
[20:47] <popey> system settings
[20:47] <mike_col> its work on this build gsm ?
[20:47] <ogra_> mike_col, in the galayx nexus ?
[20:47] <mike_col> yes I have
[20:47] <ogra_> yes, GSM works fine there
[20:47] <ogra_> and 3G ... wlan ...
[20:48] <Guest78176> ogra_: When I click system settings > update ... I just get the system settings header with a white page
[20:48] <Guest78176> seems broken for the nexus 7
[20:49] <ogra_> Guest78176, do you use a system-image install ?
[20:49] <ogra_> it wont work otherwise
[20:49] <Guest78176> ogra_: I flashed the rescent image with CWM
[20:49] <Guest78176> it's pretty out of date then I assume
[20:49] <ogra_> OTA updates are  binary diffs ... they require a readonly image
[20:49] <mike_col> okay because i have installed an image from 10 Oct but isnt work
[20:50] <kenvandine> you need the image installed with phablet-flash ubuntu-system
[20:50] <ogra_> right, then you can even let it semi automatically update
[20:50] <Guest78176> so ubuntu-system or system-image?
[20:51] <popey> phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel saucy
[20:51] <ogra_> ubuntu-system is the installl variant
[20:51] <kenvandine> ubuntu-system is the argument you give to phablet-flash to get the system-image
[20:51] <Guest78176> sorry my brain doesnt work tired, linux tech drains me so hard lol
[20:53] <RobbyF> Will be be able to install non-click packages from say apt? or .deb files ?
[20:54] <popey> RobbyF: you can make the image read/write and install debs
[20:54] <popey> but you lose the OTA update mechanism then
[20:56] <RobbyF> what about  OTA updates from click packages?
[20:56] <amarino> is ubuntu mobile coming tomorrow?
[20:58] <mike_col> its possible to have a link for the phablet image maguro?
[20:58] <mike_col> i like installs over CWM
[20:58] <|Chris|> mike_col, http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/
[20:59] <mike_col> okay but i dont found the Phablet image
[20:59] <amarino> is ubuntu mobile coming tomorrow?
[20:59] <popey> 13.10 and ubuntu for phones images are due tomorrow, yes
[20:59] <mike_col> or its not necessarily
[21:00] <amarino> thank you
[21:00] <Guest78176> the terminal freedom is fantastic in this OS, compared to stock android
[21:01] <spindley> hey guys, has an email app been added to the image?
[21:01] <spindley> i saw that something was being worked on a while ago
[21:01] <popey> not with this release, no
[21:01] <popey> only webmail
[21:01] <spindley> i've never actually used gmail webmail
[21:02] <spindley> is there any kind of notification handling?
[21:02] <spindley> i suppose not
[21:02] <popey> not yet
[21:02] <popey> for web apps
[21:02] <spindley> yeah
[21:02] <cuqa> cant wait to install ubuntu touch
[21:03] <amarino> did you got the pin/puk authentication working?
[21:03] <Guest78176> interesting to see if the kubuntu side of things will show some face
[21:03] <Guest78176> with KDE integration etc
[21:04] <spindley> popey: not that i'm crticizing or anything, but how was an email client not basically at the top of list of core apps?
[21:05] <popey> spindley: because we had a lot of other stuff to deliver, and not enough resources to do every app
[21:05] <Guest78176> Applications arent a necessity, a stable core is
[21:05] <popey> we'll get to email in the next release
[21:05] <Guest78176> Although same cant be said for windows 8
[21:05] <Guest78176> *snigger*
[21:05] <spindley> popey: fair enough, looking forward to trying it out
[21:07] <RobbyF> Is there an easy way to make my email book mark a web apps within this release?
[21:13] <medri> thanks flashing worked! have a good one!
[21:16] <nedaljo> hi
[21:16] <nedaljo> any update about v 1.0
[21:20] <RobbyF> images should be available tomorrow
[21:22] <mike_col> and in what sequenz
[21:22] <mike_col> can anybody say me which files are important if I flash with cwm i have maguro
[21:23] <mike_col> i mean from preinstalled
[21:23] <fishscene> Hey guys, I have to step out for a while, but I wanted to say thanks to everyone who helped develop ubuntu-touch. :)
[21:24] <RobbyF> mike_col, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install scroll down to manual install
[21:25] <mike_col> mööp but isnt posted with CMW
[21:25] <mike_col> only when you have linux terminal
[21:25] <RobbyF> same thing really
[21:26] <mike_col> ok
[21:26] <mike_col> thx
[21:26] <RobbyF> install boot saucy-preinstalled-boot-armhf+grouper.img then system saucy-preinstalled-system-armel+grouper.img
[21:26] <RobbyF> just grab the right files
[21:26] <mike_col> :D :D thx
[21:26] <mike_col> thats what i mean
[21:27] <nedaljo> we will have something new tomorrow or simple fixes for today build?
[21:28] <RobbyF> nedaljo, https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg04674.html
[21:29] <RobbyF> from the list it looks like lots of fixes included.
[21:29] <thw> better to install new 1.0 build or update existant developer builds ota?
[21:30] <johnjohn101> roll out tomorrow?
[21:31] <nedaljo> till now the power button not working with google nexus 4
[21:31] <thw> at which local time 1.0 is rolled out?
[21:34] <popey> we don't give a time
[21:35] <johnjohn101> is this the version that you are recommending to the general public? hopefully with a nice FAQ
[21:41] <RobbyF> I wish i could install this over my BBZ10 paper weight lol
[21:42] <lool> jibel: that's probably why it was so sllow
[22:04] <|Chris|> Anyone got experience with porting a Sony Xperia Z?
[22:08] <Guest36993> does the device have to be booted to work with phablet flash or can I do it from recovery (not having much luck with recovery
[22:10] <popey> Guest36993: i usually do it while booted
[22:11] <Guest36993> also for grouper ... phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel saucy -d grouper
[22:11] <Guest36993> is that correct
[22:12] <popey> yes
[22:12] <Guest36993> excellent, thanks
[22:14] <Tom___> Hi there, can anybody tell me on what day/date Ubuntu Touch will be launched officially?
[22:14] <Guest36993> popey: you should put that in topic ^^ lol
[22:15] <popey> nobody reads the topic
[22:15] <popey> look, I'll prove it
[22:15] <popey> now.. we wait
[22:16] <k1l> you should just set: "when its done" into topic :)
[22:17] <Guest36993> "how long is a piece of string@
[22:18] <popey> heh
[22:20] <Guest36993> im getting autodeploy.zip not found, would phablet-flash -d grouper -b fix that ?
[22:20] <Guest36993> as that downloads everything, or am i wrong
[22:21] <popey> yeah, -b should be used the first time
[22:23] <Guest36993> ok now i cant boot ubuntu and the flash doesnt work in recovery, lol
[22:24] <popey> did you re-flash it?
[22:25] <popey> surprised it finished in 3 mins
[22:25] <Guest36993> i tried the first time and it gave me the zip error, and its wiped the previous ubuntu install
[22:50] <lool> mandel`: Hey
[22:50] <lool> mandel`: 21:03 < jibel> barry, lool latest u-d-m spams syslog with debug messages, 1 upgrade from 92 to 99 generated more than 2MB of log messages, I'll file a bug
[22:51] <lool> Oct 16 12:20:51 ubuntu-phablet ubuntu-download-manager[3420]: �#021�#001#034#022�#001�1�#001�#021�#001�1�#001
[22:51] <lool> Oct 16 12:21:00 ubuntu-phablet ubuntu-download-manager[3420]: 2013-10-16 12:21:00,632 - DEBUG - Timeout reached, shutdown service.
[22:51] <lool> Oct 16 12:21:00 ubuntu-phablet ubuntu-download-manager[3420]: 2013-10-16 12:21:00,633 - DEBUG - Exit app 0
[22:51] <lool> etc.
[22:59] <barry> lool: yeah, i think that's a udm thing.  si logs to /var/log/system-image/client.log
[23:01] <Guest36993> phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel saucy -d grouper -b , whenever I run that command I get the autodeploy.zip missing, am I missing something?
[23:02] <lool> barry: Yeah
[23:11] <lenios> there's still a pretty long list of bugs, considering we're D-1
[23:41] <thisguy_> hey all, I'm having an issue install ubuntu touch on my 2012 nexus 7, seems to be stuck on CWM saying autodeploy.zip not found.
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> thisguy_: how are you loading it?
[23:49] <thisguy_> I was running it through terminal "$phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel devel --no-backup"
[23:50] <popey> someone else said similar earlier.
[23:50] <popey> are you flashing for the first time?
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> thisguy_: been awhile since I did this on my older nexus 7, is that from a wiki?
[23:51] <thisguy_> yeah it's from the main wiki
[23:51] <thisguy_> I have flashed previously
[23:51] <thisguy_> but this is the first time I've seen this
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> cool,must wondering.
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> just*
[23:53] <lool> mandel`: https://code.launchpad.net/~lool/ubuntu-download-manager/udm-no-debug/+merge/191536


[16:52] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-systemload-plugin 1.2.2 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-systemload-plugin-1-2-2-released-tp52212.html (by Landry Breuil-2)
[17:43] <flocculant> brainwash: ack


[08:57] <Joshua> Hello
[08:57] <Joshua> I want to ask, how does one access the host machine from my multipass ubuntu
[08:58] <Joshua> thanks in advance
[08:58] <Joshua> cant seem to find the answer on the github repo, or maybe I am not looking hard enough
[13:06] <nhart[m]> Hi Joshua, I don't know that we have an established way to do that, but you should be able to set up SSH from the VM back to the host. We also have file mounting which can give some access.


[00:00] <daftykins> presume i'll have to force reboot xD
[00:01] <TJ-> send ctrl-alt-del from the hypervisor?
[00:01] <Bashing-om> daftykins: ' systemctl reboot ' ?
[00:01] <TJ-> you should be able to do systemctl reboot
[00:01] <daftykins> ah well i forced it already
[00:02] <daftykins> it took the password properly that time, booting recovery mode
[00:04] <daftykins> ooh heck of a lot of angry services
[00:06] <TJ-> that's unexpected, unless it is due to no network
[00:09] <daftykins> i popped netplan.io on and copied my conf, so i had an IP but non-working DNS
[00:09] <daftykins> just erased resolv.conf by hand and set a basic one so i could install openssh-server as i seem to have forgotten that too
[00:12] <TJ-> eeek, never delete it, let systemd-resolved manage it
[00:13] <daftykins> it must have had missing paths as the symlink was dead
[00:13] <daftykins> i think i can get by on that much, i just need fstab but it sucks having to edit through this console
[00:13] <daftykins> for some reason SSHing in as my user i get auto disconnected
[00:13] <daftykins> some property of the recovery mode perhaps?
[00:14] <TJ-> does it actually connect? is there a separate /home/ that isn't mounted due to no fstab?
[00:15] <daftykins> yep connects and gets killed after entering a password, nah /home/username is there fine
[00:15] <TJ-> journalctl -u ssh
[00:15] <daftykins> nevermind i have echo'd blkid into /etc/fstab and will just edit it down to what i want
[00:20] <daftykins> this was quite the adventure
[00:20] <TJ-> TIL ?
[00:20] <TJ-> is it working correctly now?
[00:21] <daftykins> still booting
[00:21] <daftykins> i see a message under plymouth "cryptsetup: xvda5_crypt: set up successfully"
[00:22] <daftykins> looks like i made an fstab error
[00:22] <daftykins> anywho i'll keep at it!
[00:22] <daftykins> SSH and login fine :)
[00:23] <TJ-> that means the cryptsetup-initramfs worked correctly
[00:23] <TJ-> nice one!
[00:25] <daftykins> :D thanks for the assist!
[00:25] <daftykins> so i need to fix at least this one from dmesg: [   21.162563] EXT4-fs (xvda1): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem
[00:25] <daftykins> not quite sure why that was wrong
[00:28] <TJ-> did you add an entry for xvda1 in fstab?
[00:28] <daftykins> yeah to avoid having to prune down to UUIDs
[00:28] <daftykins> presumably since it's encrypted that's erroneous
[00:28] <TJ-> I suspect you meant to put /dev/mapper/LUKS_BOOT
[00:29] <TJ-> that's where the ext FS is
[00:29] <TJ-> think of the block devices as a stack of those Russian dolls, one inside another ad infinitum
[00:30] <TJ-> then it is easier to relate which block device to reference
[00:30] <daftykins> yep
[00:30] <daftykins> quick fix to /etc/hosts to allow sudo to resolve $hostname
[00:30] <TJ-> sda > sda1 > LUKS > ext4 > dir > file
[00:32] <daftykins> systemctl status appeared to have a problem with a couple of units, might give me clues on what else is broken xD
[00:32] <daftykins> booting again to see what progress i've made
[00:32] <TJ-> at least you made it boot 1st time ... many fail on that
[00:32] <daftykins> hmm seem to be booting to a 30 second GRUB timeout on each boot now
[00:33] <daftykins> hehe :D yeah i can feel slightly smug!
[00:33] <daftykins> in realworld terms though, how far ahead is all this versus using the installer's encrypted LVM option?
[00:33] <TJ-> that timeout is likely due to the OS not setting the boot-success flag that GRUB tests so it shows the menu and runs the timeout
[00:34] <TJ-> well the installer cannot encrypt a separate /boot/
[00:34] <daftykins> mmm so there's the tamper risk
[00:34] <TJ-> that's the entire point of the tutorial
[00:35] <daftykins> yep
[00:35] <daftykins> for my use-case of a VM running atop an XCP-ng host though, do you think both choices are good enough?
[00:35] <TJ-> right - UEFI SecureBoot can at least detect tampering, but this makes it more difficult since kernel and initrd cannot be got at, and you can guard against GRUB's core being compromised in the BIOS boot by simply saving and checking its hash
[00:36] <daftykins> "systemctl status" reports a clean "running" now \o/
[00:36] <daftykins> boot isn't particularly fast, but it gets there
[00:37]  * TJ- awards daftykins the order of Tj, 1st class
[00:37] <TJ-> but it shouldn't boot more than once a year!
[00:37] <daftykins> woohoo \o/
[00:37] <daftykins> hahaha, that's true... well it's going to be an R-Studio server, so once it's created, hopefully there'll not be much trouble
[00:38] <daftykins> thanks to the beauty of virt, i can now snapshot that install and call it 'known good'
[00:39] <daftykins> well, after removing my easy passphrase i suppose ;)
[00:40] <daftykins> wow i think it's time to step away and get food!
[00:41] <TJ-> good plan - I've not eaten today yet (Saturday) and I'm doing an overnighter at the office currently
[00:42] <daftykins> ooh my!
[00:42] <daftykins> big task on?
[00:42] <daftykins> well many thanks once again, hope i didn't distract you too much :D
[00:44] <TJ-> I came in to do some electrical installations but can't make much noise overnight so doing some kernel build and test for our Turris Mox gateway switch/router, since I'm deploying Debian on it with latest kernel
[00:44] <TJ-> I can get on without distractions at weekends
[00:45] <daftykins> ah ha
[00:45] <daftykins> right, to that food young man! :)
[01:49] <TJ-> anyone else think asdfgh isn't really using an Ubuntu install?
[02:10] <daftykins> seems likely and i'm not even in there (:
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[03:43] <TJ-> morning lotuspsychje
[03:44] <TJ-> guess who's still working!
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> hey TJ-
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> what madness are you trying to solve this time TJ-
[03:46] <TJ-> right now? checking if the kernel 5.9-rc8 has fixed bugs that affect our Turris Mox gateway/switch/routers ... looks like one may be solved: the hardware switch was eating IPv6 DHCP discovery multicast broadcasts... just tested and client now gets an IPv6 from the DHCPv6 server
[03:47] <TJ-> the other issue is UAS for USB3 storage suffering constant aborts when storage is plugged in. not solved, but there is a workaround of disabling/blacklisting uas and allowing usb_storage module to handle it instead
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> wow must be some shiny router if it needs 5.9
[03:48] <TJ-> the opposite. Turris ship it with an old 4.4 stable branch and openwrt, but I want Debian 10 + latest upstream kernel
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> i see
[03:49] <TJ-> The Mox is an amazing bit of kit - expandable via plug-on modules so we've got 3 x 8 gigabit ethernet modules, 1 x 4-port USB3, 1 x mini PCIe + SIM card slot, 1 x SFC port, and of course the CPU module itself
[03:50] <TJ-> so 26 gigabit ethernet ports
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> never heared of that brand before
[03:51] <TJ-> it's an open-source hardware project from nic.cz the Czech network infrastructure organisation. They started off with a kickstarter for the home router Turris Omnia and then developed the Mox for business and ISP
[03:52] <TJ-> think - souped up RasPi designed for networking
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> didnt know czechs were hardware players too :p
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> reviving old routers with linux, \o/
[04:03] <daftykins> most abandoned ones are on Linux :D
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[04:13] <TJ-> Mox is very good; takes a lot to impress me but colour me impressed. We've been using them for about 6 months now
[04:15] <TJ-> the expandability via plug-on modules is the best bit by far. Add as many ethernet ports as you need
[04:16] <daftykins> ooh
[06:26] <Deyaa> How can I pass client IP throught nginx reverse proxy all the way to the website?
[06:27]  * daftykins looks at the topic
[06:38] <Maik> !topic | Deyaa
[06:39] <Maik> hmmm... doesn't work, too bad
[06:39] <Deyaa> I'm Sorry
[06:39] <Maik> np
[06:39] <Deyaa> Maik: I thought it is related to Ubuntu
[06:40] <Maik> support is in #ubuntu
[06:40] <Maik> this channel is non-support
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> Deyaa: there's also ##networking for network issues general
[06:43] <Deyaa> Okay thanks guys I appreciate it
[06:44] <Maik> yw
[18:49] <oft_gegong> is ubuntu done right?
[18:50] <oft_gegong> I'm 93% sure at least 84.7% of it is done right.
[22:18] <tomreyn> TJ-: i guess you could say so, at least for new users who do not know about terminal, synaptic, gnome-software
[22:19] <TJ-> it's the NIH aspect that is so wrong, and Canonical has a terrible record in that regard
[22:19] <tomreyn> it's how you make money
[22:20] <tomreyn> that's if it ever works out
[22:20] <TJ-> I disagree.. because now they've increased their cost base (dedicated developers)
[22:21] <tomreyn> you mean for developing the snap store?
[22:21] <TJ-> and when the next round of reorganisation/cuts hits, those devs may well be gone and it'll end up on life-support or orphaned as with Unity, ecryptfs, and countless others (Ubuntu One, etc.)
[22:21] <TJ-> tomreyn: developing and supporting the whole snap infrastructure... that'll only make money if it can reach a critical mass, but it is driving the audience away from Ubuntu
[22:23] <tomreyn> i'm sure it would if ubuntu server goes apt-less, i.e. becomes ubuntu core
[22:23]  * daftykins shudders in horror
[22:24] <TJ-> snap has driven me away and I've been a big supporter since 2004. I'm moving all our infra and workstations away to Debian/ I adopted LXD for containers but since it went snap-only I've dumped it and we now use k3s/k8s (Kubernetes)
[22:24] <TJ-> won't touch micro-k8s
[22:25] <TJ-> We've a few workstations still on Xubuntu but they're going to be moved off before xmas
[22:25] <tomreyn> TJ-: i think there are basically two strategies by which canonical can make money: support services + ready-made solutions and hosted services, all of which they do and how they're surviving. and those vendor lock-in OS changes, but this only works when critical mass accepts them, which so far hasn't happened, and i don't think it will, ever.
[22:26] <TJ-> And of course we know longer recommend Ubuntu to clients
[22:26] <tomreyn> i'm also moving back to debian, but it's a process
[22:26] <TJ-> tomreyn: agreed mostly; the niche for Ubuntu (server) is in cloud deployments and for desktop the relationship with Microsoft
[22:27] <TJ-> yep it is, but quite enjoyable :)
[22:28] <TJ-> Ironically though, I cannot support Debian on IRC since they have a stupid block on any IRC user with !*root*@  duh
[22:28] <TJ-> makes them read-only so cannot 'talk', or directly block from joining
[22:28] <tomreyn> i'm not so happy with debian on a desktop. gnome-shell is nice there, without the changes, but those older software versions without PPAs aren't great. i guess i just need to start backporting myself.
[22:28] <daftykins> O_O
[22:29] <tomreyn> hehehe, block on root@irc
[22:29] <daftykins> quick client config edit surely? :)
[22:29] <TJ-> ridiculous isn't it
[22:29] <tomreyn> is this on both freenode and oftc?
[22:29] <TJ-> it's just theatre, whoever set that doesn't understand IRC nor the IDENT protocol
[22:29] <TJ-> tomreyn: yes, both
[22:30] <tomreyn> they have some stubborn sysadmins for sure
[22:30] <tomreyn> sometimes that's good, other times bad
[22:30] <TJ-> OFTC: /join #debian = "#debian: Cannot join channel (+b)"
[22:31] <tomreyn> well, i guess you could work around it if you wanted ;)
[22:31] <tomreyn> but i also understand why you wouldnt
[22:32] <jeremy31> Using a terminal based IRC client
[22:32] <TJ-> their loss :)
[22:33] <TJ-> I run an ident server so can authenticate as root@ too
[22:33] <tomreyn> TJ-: turns out the person you were helping is actually using unity, so maybe it was an entirely different 'app store' they had
[22:33] <TJ-> tomreyn: yeah I noticed that... Unity on 20.04 ?
[22:33] <tomreyn> it's still in universe, i think
[22:34] <TJ-> right, but not a 'default' install option as was inferred
[22:34] <daftykins> apparently a couple of people are trying to get it back in as a flavour
[22:34] <tomreyn> oh, i think there is a fork which comes with unity
[22:35] <TJ-> I was helping a user with 2 NVMEs where one controller was disappearing randomly in ##linux ... I suggested swapping them between slots and so far the issue hasn't recurred! hard to explain the cause of that kind of voodoo
[22:35] <TJ-> daftykins: "couple" :D
[22:35] <jeremy31> bad connections
[22:35] <TJ-> jeremy31: it looks like a firmware bug
[22:36] <daftykins> PCIe lane count / controller+firmware a bad mix maybe
[22:36] <jeremy31> TJ-: could be
[22:36] <TJ-> the NVMEs aren't identical and there is some evidence that the 2 slots aren't identical - some additional GPIO 'stuff' apparently
[22:37]  * tomreyn shudders
[22:37] <TJ-> strangely the NVME that doesn't meet the spec (and is reported as such by the kernel) works fine; it's the 'correct' NVME that has the issue
[23:08] <daftykins> hrmm just noticed my sources.list in the debootstrap'd VM is very spartan, single line!
[23:11] <Bashing-om> daftykins: My spartan source.kist - for your reference: https://termbin.com/w6rkd .
[23:11] <daftykins> :) thanks, much appreciated
[23:13] <tomreyn> the canonical partner repository only contains adobe flash (which i think will finally die by the end of this year), and google-cloud-sdk for focal
[23:13] <tomreyn> so you may not even need that
[23:14] <daftykins> confused, i did a clean server install last night whilst tinkering - and that has universe and multiverse enabled, is that really default o0
[23:17] <tomreyn> shouldn't be, i guess, and i think there were bug reports about it before
[23:18] <tomreyn> daftykins: which image did you use?
[23:18] <daftykins> live-server
[23:18] <daftykins> 20.04.1
[23:18] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Great we  looked - I see an Uh OH in my sources.list file :(
[23:19] <daftykins> ubuntu-20.04.1-live-server-amd64.iso to be more precise
[23:23] <tomreyn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/1783129
[23:24] <daftykins> that's the opposite of what i'm seeing
[23:24] <daftykins> https://termbin.com/w2na
[23:24] <tomreyn> yes, my point is that the configuration was changed on purpose
[23:27] <Bashing-om> Nope - my sources.list stands as good - I just thought I had made an error :)
[23:30] <tomreyn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/1783129/comments/33 seems to state (i'm paraphrasing) "we want universe and it is now in there (again)"


[08:11]  * luna is listening to this weeks podcast now
[22:03] <luis220413> Please triage CVE-2022-28736 for all Ubuntu releases and set its priority to Low or Negligible, because an exploit requires either physical or root access.
[22:03] <luis220413> Please also provide a description in the CVE file.
[22:13] <luis220413> Please triage CVE-2022-28735 for all Ubuntu releases. This is a Secure Boot bypass.
[22:17] <luis220413> Same for CVE-2022-28734 and CVE-2022-28733, but these are heap buffer overflows that can lead to arbitrary code execution, but these require GRUB to use networking.
[22:22] <luis220413> You can also triage the other CVEs for grub2: https://ubuntu.com/security/cves?q=&package=grub2&priority=&version=&status=needs-triage
[22:23] <luis220413> They can lead to arbitrary code execution with varying difficulty, according to the descriptions.
[22:23] <luis220413> *can all
[22:24] <luis220413> I will leave now but I will see your replies in the logs.


[01:50] <fastforward> Good evening, all.
[01:53] <Unit193> Howdy.
[01:53] <Unit193> So I take it, you're a user of MATE?
[02:00] <fastforward> Yes.
[02:01] <fastforward> I'm very happy with it so far.
[02:05] <Unit193> Ah, I know someone else that uses that too.
[02:08] <fastforward> What DE are you using?
[02:10] <Unit193> Xfce.
[02:11] <wrst> There is going to be an official mate Ubuntu edition coming soon
[02:11] <Unit193> Mhmm, saw that.
[02:23] <fastforward> I'm going to be doing some of the QA on the Ubuntu-MATE project.
[02:25] <fastforward> I was using Mint, but when I discovered MATE on Ubuntu not so long ago, I switched back. Too much silver in Mint. :)
[02:26]  * Unit193 stays silent, and points to wrst.
[02:44]  * fastforward is confused.
[11:39] <wrst> Unit193: quit pointing
[14:07] <wrst> morning fastforward
[14:10] <fastforward> Morning, wrst.
[14:11] <wrst> how are you doing?
[14:15] <fastforward> Doing fine. About to run off to morning standups. How about yourself?
[14:17] <wrst> doing well trying to get in the groove of getting things done
[15:03] <fastforward> Same here. I'm finding that I work best when I can dedicate 2 hour chunks of time and sprint through them. Otherwise, the day seems to slip away.
[19:11] <fastforward> https://www.seton.net.au/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/42492.jpg
[19:15] <wrst> :)
[19:15] <Unit193> I'd make a comment, but it really only works in person.
[19:15] <wrst> about iphones or something else? :)
[21:00] <fastforward> Ha! I was jabbing a friend about his iPhone 6+ and it boiled over on Twitter. Turns out, he'd been getting it all day and I just got the brunt of his frustrations.
[21:02] <wrst> :)
[21:02] <wrst> the 6 plus is so stinking big
[21:02] <wrst> i hav ea nexus 5 and its pretty much at the top end of bigness that I want
[21:08] <fastforward> I got the HTC One and I don't want a screen any larger than that. I think it's a great phone. I wish I could get the Nexus 5 on Verizon, but they want too much control over the phones.


[03:22] <az7> woooo chat night
[03:23] <zillah> yay!
[03:33] <az7> YES
[17:15] <Ahmuck-Sr> ping
[17:17] <kwadroke> pong
[17:20] <Ahmuck-Sr> hows everybody?
[17:21] <kwadroke> I'm doing ok
[17:21] <kwadroke> but I'll get over it
[17:21] <Ahmuck-Sr> heh, cheerful i see
[17:21] <kwadroke> in an odd mood today
[17:22] <kwadroke> how are you?
[17:22] <Ahmuck-Sr> i'm well
[17:22] <Ahmuck-Sr> looking to visit AR this June for the Peach fesitival
[17:23] <kwadroke> Peach festival?
[17:25] <Ahmuck-Sr> https://sites.google.com/site/johnsoncountypeachfestival/
[17:25] <kwadroke> oh, ok
[17:26] <kwadroke> never heard of it before. Don't go to clarksville
[17:26] <kwadroke> *I Don't go to clarksville
[22:22] <Ahmuck> zillah: looks like ur under tornado watch?
[22:45] <zillah> yeah, it's just going to miss us by a few miles
[22:45] <zillah> one of them is anyhow, there have been a few touch down already


[11:16] <erUSUL> Zarephath: change the owner of the file to yourself sudo chown -R youruser.youruser /path/to/dir
[11:16] <kjm> Have you checked in System->Administration->Language support to make sure Hebrew is checked?
[11:16] <y0shi> thanks.. I'll try.
[11:17] <ubuntu__user> ?
[11:17] <kjm> ?
[11:18] <Zarephath> erUSUL: Thanks...not sure about the youruser.youruser part...ie if the name of the folder person was foo and my user was bar then it would be sudo chown -R foo.bar /path?
[11:18] <TheGame> can some1 help me out with xchat
[11:18] <Juhaz> Zarephath, no
[11:18] <Warbo> Anyone familiar with enlightenment's shell?
[11:18] <Juhaz> Zarephath, it's user.group
[11:18] <ubuntu__user> fyrestrtr ?
[11:18] <Zarephath> juhaz: Ahhh...ok thanks
[11:18] <ScislaC> I guess I will try once more... It looks like my fstab is messed up because I had modified it and after a reboot it has a Kernel Panic... SO, I decided to use a Live CD to see if I can fix it, but, I can't seem to mount the harddisk as writable, any suggestions? (note: not that it will matter, but it's a SAS RAID I'm working with)
[11:18] <erUSUL> !anyone > TheGame
[11:19] <erUSUL> Zarephath: you can use youruser.users
[11:19] <sethk> ScislaC, which file system is on the disk?
[11:19] <Warbo> I need to change the stacking layer of a window which doesn't allow alt-right click
[11:19] <ScislaC> sethk: Ext3
[11:19] <searayman> Warbo:  i need ur help
[11:19] <Juhaz> Zarephath, also, what's the file system of the other drive? that won't work if it's for example fat or ntfs
[11:20] <Warbo> searayman: What with
[11:20] <Zarephath> erUSUL: Ok I get it...
[11:20] <sethk> ScislaC, it mounts read only?
[11:20] <Zarephath> juhaz: Actually it is hfs
[11:20] <sbarn> hi, how do I download ubuntu's kernel source? I want the source, not just the headers
[11:20] <ScislaC> sethk: yep... I tried to mount it rw but it's still read-only
[11:20] <Warbo> !info linux-source-2.6.15
[11:20] <ubotu> Package linux-source-2615 does not exist in dapper
[11:20] <TheGame> everytime i start xchat
[11:20] <TheGame> it lists 5 different usernames and my nickname and everything
[11:20] <searayman> Warbo:  u were helpign me with the eye candy stuff
[11:20] <Warbo> Ubotu doesn't handle full stops?
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesn't handle full stops? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <imbrandon> sbarn: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[11:20] <nymserver> hi
[11:20] <Warbo> searayman: Yes, but what bit doesn't work?
[11:20] <searayman> Warbo:  you told me to restart x
[11:20] <sethk> ScislaC, ok, just to be sure, when you run the mount command (no arguments) the line shows up with ro?
[11:20] <erUSUL> Juhaz: there is a group with your user's name for every user of the system...
[11:21] <TheGame> but if i change it the next time i open xchat its back to the same names
[11:21] <Warbo> searayman: And?
[11:21] <nymserver> whats the command to rename a file?
[11:21] <searayman> Warbo:  i got stuck in it and x wouldnt restart just gave me errors
[11:21] <sbarn> imbrandon, thanks
[11:21] <TheGame> how do i change it permanently
[11:21] <sethk> nymserver, mv
[11:21] <Warbo> searayman: Ah. Can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please?
[11:21] <goochy> can anyone recommend a codec pack I can download that covers most formats?
[11:21] <searayman> Warbo:  i used another computer and got help to comment out the 3 lines we added to some file
[11:21] <Awesome-o2000> goochy, ffmpeg or libavcodec is good shit
[11:21] <nymserver> no not move it rename it in its current location
[11:22] <searayman> Warbo:  once we commented out those lines it worked fin
[11:22] <Warbo> searayman: Yes, /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[11:22] <TheGame> so no1 has an answer to that?
[11:22] <searayman> Warbo:  yea, but composite dossent work
[11:22] <Juhaz> erUSUL, I'm quite aware of that
[11:22] <digitallotus> nymserver, still mv, just mv to the same directory.... mv /tmp/test.txt /tmp/test2.txt
[11:22] <searayman> Warbo:  so what did u want me to do?
[11:22] <ScislaC> sethk: when I run just the mount command it does list it and it even has (rw) next to it... so it's trying, just not succeeding for some reason
[11:22] <Warbo> searayman: Maybe your driver doesn't support it, but I thought it was a general Xorg extension which could use any driver
[11:22] <searayman> Warbo:  so what can i do?
[11:23] <sethk> TheGame, you can delete your .xchat directory, which will put you into the mode when you ran xchat for the first time
[11:23] <TheGame> gol
[11:23] <TheGame> thanks
[11:23] <Warbo> searayman: Can you dum the Xorg config file /etc/X11/xorg.conf into pastebin please
[11:23] <Warbo> !pastebin
[11:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:23] <zzack3> hi guys, can anybody help me? I have some trouble installing kino...
[11:23] <nymserver> si it its called ddd now and i want to call it nymserver ?
[11:23] <sethk> TheGame, sorry, it is $HOME/.xchat2
[11:23] <searayman> Warbo:  whats pastebin?
[11:23] <TheGame> ok
[11:23] <Warbo> searayman: Look up :)
[11:23] <TheGame> thanks
[11:24] <fafafaf> hey
[11:24] <ubuntu__user> need some help with refresh rate,..
[11:24] <digitallotus> nymserver, so if it's in your current directory, just 'mv ddd nymserver'
[11:24] <ubuntu__user> can enyone help with that
[11:24] <erUSUL> !fixres > ubuntu__user
[11:24] <Zarephath> Crap won't work either...
[11:24] <ubuntu__user> hi
[11:25] <searayman> Warbo:  doign it now
[11:25] <ubuntu__user> i'm limited to only 60Hz refreshrate
[11:25] <fafafaf> is there a way i can mount a given harddrive as root from the unbuntu installation CD
[11:25] <jayt> I did some upgrades a couple of weeks ago and sound did not work since then I have a soundblaster audigy 2 and it used to work ok, now in the place of the start up "music" I hear a distorted version of the tune very low in volume nothing looks muted in alsamixer
[11:25] <kjm> y0shi : any luck?
[11:25] <lucordes> could anyone be so kind and take a look at my post? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1375874#post1375874
[11:26] <y0shi> yes... but weird luck
[11:26] <erUSUL> fafafaf: sudo mount -t fstype /dev/xxxx /mnt/ ?
[11:26] <Spydon> hey can someone help me?
[11:26] <nymserver> digitallotus: thanks
[11:26] <fafafaf> thats not mounted at / tho
[11:26] <fafafaf> see
[11:26] <Spydon> I need to install some music codecs
[11:26] <searayman> Warbo:  it seems slow
[11:26] <fafafaf> at time of boo
[11:26] <fafafaf> t
[11:26] <y0shi> kjm - in System -> Administration -> Login Window... I've configured X Server
[11:26] <jayt> !restricted > Spydon
[11:26] <y0shi> and added VT 1 Standard (instead of XGL)
[11:26] <Spydon> how do you install music codecs?
[11:26] <lucordes> !botsnack
[11:26] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:26] <erUSUL> !mp3
[11:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:26] <y0shi> doest that mean that both x servers are on now?
[11:26] <Spydon> oh thx
[11:27] <jayt> Spydon, the bot ubotu sent you a link
[11:27] <Phaqui> whats a good torrent client?
[11:27] <y0shi> because hebrew is working now
[11:27] <Spydon> thx
[11:27] <TheGame> sethk, that didnt work so i had to manually edit a file in the dir
[11:27] <jayt> !il
[11:27] <ubotu>
[11:27] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[11:27] <trygg> Hm, what can i do if ubuntu doesnt find my awe32-soundblaster?
[11:27] <kjm> y0shi -> Well, there can only be one x-server running at a time.  But, that looks like a langauge I can't read....so it must be Hebrew
[11:27] <trygg> whoa, soundcard
[11:27] <gsuveg> trygg: dmesg ?
[11:27] <searayman> Warbo:  i am having problems pastign to pastebin
[11:27] <erUSUL> trygg: isa?
[11:27] <searayman> Warbo:  i get this error "
[11:27] <searayman> Warning: unlink(/home/pastebin/public_html/../cache/recent): No such file or directory in /home/pastebin/lib/pastebin/db.mysql.class.php on line 243
[11:27] <searayman> Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/pastebin/lib/pastebin/db.mysql.class.php:243) in /home/pastebin/lib/pastebin/pastebin.class.php on line 198"
[11:27] <y0shi> kjm, yes it is.. but why would that fix the hebrew? I mean? what did I do? I was just messing things up.
[11:28] <erUSUL> !paste > searayman
[11:28] <trygg> erUSUL: i dont know, its from '96. :D
[11:28] <jayt> crimsun, you about with any time for this: I did some upgrades a couple of weeks ago and sound did not work since then I have a soundblaster audigy 2 and it used to work ok, now in the place of the start up "music" I hear a distorted version of the tune very low in volume nothing looks muted in alsamixer
[11:28] <erUSUL> trygg: ubuntu does not support isa devices iirc you have to recompile the kernel
[11:28] <Warbo> searayman: Er... I don't know what that means :)
[11:28] <searayman> erUSUL:  i knwo what it it but it aint working!!
[11:28] <TheGame> is there anything like automatix thats better?
[11:28] <searayman> Warbo:  so what can we do?
[11:29] <Warbo> searayman: Look for another pastebin on Google
[11:29] <erUSUL> searayman: use pastebin.ca but do not spam the channel please
[11:29] <crimsun> jayt: pastebin your ``amixer''
[11:29] <erUSUL> TheGame: easyubuntu
[11:29] <kjm> y0shi -> I don't know exaclty.  Perhaps altering sessions reverted your xorg.conf file ... ?  I'm grabbing at straws
[11:29] <TheGame> i see
[11:29] <TheGame> which one do u suggest
[11:29] <drew> I'm attempting to install lircd from source
[11:29] <trygg> erUSUL: Yeah, its isapnp. Just to recompile then?
[11:29] <sds> is espanish???
[11:29] <ubuntu__user> erUSUL - i'm new to all this irc ubuntu, i'mtraying the link you gave me, thx.
[11:29] <cica> hello all
[11:29] <MrPockets> how does a fella reset X?
[11:30] <erUSUL> TheGame: i haven't used either but automatix seems to get negative views around here
[11:30] <drew> And getting this error: "lircd: could not open /dev/lirc (...) lircd: default_init(): No such device"
[11:30] <TheGame> hmm
[11:30] <erUSUL> !kernel > trygg
[11:30] <TheGame> ill try easy out then
[11:30] <Cunali> Hi everyone. I attempted to boot up Ubuntu with the AMD64 Live CDs, however shortly after it begins booting up the GUI, it simply freezes and doesn't progress any further. I was suggested to turn acpi off at boot, but that didn't seem to work either. Any help would be appreciated :)
[11:30] <cica> anyone available to help with a VPN issue please?
[11:30] <TheGateKeeper> TheGame: yep, using this guide :-) http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[11:30] <kjm> MrPokets : lots of ways.  But I like $sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[11:30] <MrPockets> my toiolbar bottom side of my screen stopped showing the open apps recently, wondering how to fix it?
[11:30] <Warbo> MrPockets: With ctrl-alt-backspace. All of those girls out there might want to try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart too
[11:30] <searayman> Warbo:  ok
[11:30] <searayman> Warbo:  http://paste.uni.cc/9372
[11:31] <kjm> MrPockets : I think I misunderstood your question.  Ignore me, I am being retarded
[11:31] <jayt> crimsun, it is here, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20591 thanks for looking
[11:31] <searayman> Warbo:  did u get that?
[11:31] <trygg> erUSUL: thanks. :
[11:31] <Warbo> searayman: OK, when I said ": means new line" you made a new line in the wrong place, and kept the colon on the last line :)
[11:32] <erUSUL> trygg: no problem
[11:32] <cica> anyone available to help with a VPN issue please?
[11:32] <Warbo> searayman: http://paste.uni.cc/9373 <- That is fixed
[11:33] <MrPockets> yeah that didnt do it
[11:33] <RetLaw> soundray?
[11:33] <searayman> Warbo:  what line number is the chaneg on, i would liek to see what you did
[11:33] <MrPockets> the toolbars there, just none of the open apps show up in it
[11:34] <Qualitiam> what are Kbuild archives and how can I 'use' them?
[11:34] <DBO> MrPockets, please join #ubuntu-ops
[11:35] <olrrai> hi lots af guys
[11:35] <MrPockets> #ubuntu-ops
[11:35] <MrPockets> fuck
[11:35] <sethk> MrPockets, do you want to wipe out your configuration and get back to the virgin desktop you saw the first time you logged in?
[11:35] <MrPockets> nope
[11:35] <DBO> MrPockets, please watch your language
[11:35] <searayman> Warbo:  now that i changed that what shoudl i do?
[11:35] <MrPockets> like it the way it is, just wish my apps would show up in my lower toolbar like they did a day ago
[11:35] <Warbo> searayman: Last three lines. As well as uncommenting them I moved "enable" from line 3 to line 2 and got rid of the colon
[11:36] <Warbo> searayman: Your xorg.conf is now the same as the one I pasted?
[11:36] <feet> hiya. i seem to have a problem with logging in. whenever i log in thru kdm, it fails and returns to the login screen. from gdm, it launches a konsole session and it says bash: /dev/null permission denied
[11:36] <feet> what can i do to fix that?
 what are Kbuild files and how can I 'use' them?
[11:36] <searayman> Warbo:  yes i copied and pasted it in after deletign the one i messed up
[11:36] <Warbo> searayman: OK, then restart X
[11:36] <sethk> feet, for the second problem (/dev/null) try running gdm as root
[11:37] <searayman> Warbo:  can u kindly remind me how again?
[11:37] <feet> ... what does gdm run as usually
[11:37] <feet> you know, when youre booting
[11:37] <Warbo> searayman: Either log out, or press ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:37] <searayman> ok
[11:37] <searayman> brb
[11:37] <svu> anyone having problem with edgy language support?
[11:37] <sethk> feet, root
[11:37] <vgoltser> I installed samba, I in stalled swat and ran swat ... how can I access swat (localhost:901 does not work)
[11:37] <feet> it should then already be running as root
[11:38] <Qualitiam> what are Kbuild files and how can I 'use' (make) them?
[11:38] <feet> oops
[11:38] <Cunali> Hi everyone. I attempted to boot up Ubuntu with the AMD64 Live CDs, however shortly after it begins booting up the GUI, it simply freezes and doesn't progress any further. Though I do hear the ubuntu start up sound. I was suggested to turn acpi off at boot, but that didn't seem to work either. Any help would be appreciated :)
[11:38] <feet> so yeah, gdm is already running as root. so what can i do?
[11:38] <searayman> Warbo:  ok now what
[11:38] <Warbo> searayman: Have you installed xcompmgr yet?
[11:38] <searayman> Warbo:  i logged out then back in how do i turn it on and use it
[11:38] <searayman> Warbo:  yes
[11:38] <vgoltser> also, how can I ping a server that windows people can access as \\servername
[11:39] <orbital04> Hi, does anyone know how to get Rhythmbox to edit file properties (title, genre, etc). I know mp3's need 'cowbell' or something, but I can't even edit ogg files.
[11:39] <sethk> feet, where do you see that error about /dev/null ?
[11:39] <Warbo> searayman: Then run in a termianl "xcompmgr -cfF"
[11:39] <searayman> Warbo:  it gave me this
[11:39] <feet> well when i try to log in, a konsole session comes up (window managerless) and says bash: /dev/null permission denied three times
[11:39] <searayman> Warbo: mike@mike-desktop:~$ xcompmgr -cfF
[11:39] <searayman> No composite extension
[11:39] <searayman> mike@mike-desktop:~$
[11:39] <Warbo> searayman: Er.... I thought you added the composite extension?
[11:40] <olrrai> I have vmplayer installed and working, but when I back from hibernation I need manually run: ifconfig vmnet8 up. Anyone knows what is the script (init level) to run commnad or launch applications when back from hibernaton?
[11:40] <searayman> Warbo:  guesse not
[11:40] <feet> my only option has been to log in to ubuntu in recovery mode, log in as root, and run gdm from there to log in
[11:40] <searayman> Warbo:  how do i do that
[11:40] <feet> this is of course a bit of a pain in the rear end
[11:40] <Warbo> searayman: Try going into a console and running "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" (get to a console with ctrl-alt-f1, and into graphics with ctrl-alt-f7)
[11:40] <sds> hello como me paso a castellano??
[11:40] <cica> anyone here used strace before?
[11:40] <sethk> feet, definitely a pain.  let me check a couple of things about gdm
[11:41] <Miek> yes cica
[11:41] <feet> okay
[11:41] <olrrai> I have vmplayer installed and working, but when I back from hibernation I need manually run: ifconfig vmnet8 up. Anyone knows what is the script (init level) to run commnad or launch applications when back from hibernaton?
[11:41] <feet> it fails to log in completely with kdm and xdm
[11:41] <Raubkopierer> hu
[11:41] <vgoltser> when swat is running, I cannot access it via http://localhost:901/
[11:41] <cica> Miek: been advised to use strace to do the following: Try running under strace, so you can find out which user it tries to change to.
[11:41] <searayman> Warbo:  so do a ctrl-alt-1 then a ctr-alt-f7 then type in that command?
[11:41] <vgoltser> how can I ping a server that windows people can access as \\servername
[11:42] <olrrai> Anyone knows what is the script (init level) to run commnad or launch applications when back from hibernaton?
[11:42] <cica> Miek: where abouts or what should I be looking for in strace output to verify the user isettings?
[11:42] <Rich43> Hi, I have a old Toshiba 4090CDS Laptop.. I am having problems with a severe band of random pixels near the buttom of the screen. It was fine when it was used in windows. Any suggestions?
[11:42] <Rich43> Heres a screenshot: http://richieward.com/Screenshot.png
[11:42] <Rich43> Heres my XOrg.conf: http://richieward.com/xorg.conf
[11:42] <searayman> Warbo:  yes or no?
[11:42] <Miek> cica: could you pastebin the output?
[11:42] <Warbo> searayman: ctrl-alt-f1, type that command (in case you forget it, you can get back with ctrl-alt-f7)
[11:43] <searayman> oo ok
[11:43] <searayman> Warbo:  after i type the command then what?
[11:43] <Warbo> searayman: That should fully restart the graphics. Then try xcompmgr -cfF
[11:43] <Raubkopierer> problem: "loading essential drivers... ok \n mounting root file system... \n waiting for root file system...." and then: \n "ARLERT! /dev/hdd2 does not exist. dropping to a shell"
[11:43] <Raubkopierer> naja...
[11:43] <cica> Miek: where do you want me to paste it mate?
[11:44] <kjm> Rich43 : is 800x600 the native resolution of the monitor?
[11:44] <Raubkopierer> ../n...
[11:44] <Raubkopierer> pff -.-
[11:44] <TheGame> is it possible to use shockwave in wine
[11:44] <Rich43> kjm, yes
[11:44] <Raubkopierer> can somebody help me?
[11:44] <Miek> cica: http://rafb.net/paste/ is good
[11:44] <feet> patience Raubkopierer
[11:44] <POVaddct> Raubkopierer: did you change your hard disk recently?
[11:44] <orbital04> no Rythmbox experts out there, perhaps there is a better soundplayer/librarian out there?
[11:44] <kjm> Rich43 - it looks to me like a vertical refresh problem.  Are you sure about the Horiz-Sync and Vertical Refresh values?
[11:45] <feet> i saw a better program listed on one of the multimedia wiki pages
[11:45] <Rich43> kjm, not really.
[11:45] <Raubkopierer> POVaddct, feet its a new installation... i think it could be cause of my raid controller ite it8212
[11:45] <kjm> Have you tried at a default depth of 24?  Or 8?  Get the same problem?
[11:45] <searayman> Warbo:  ok i did what u said and it made me logg back in
[11:45] <POVaddct> Raubkopierer: i mean, is your linux hard disk still hdd (secondary slave)?
[11:45] <searayman> Warbo:  so now what command am i typing into termianl?
[11:45] <vgoltser> are there any nice samaba gui config utilities?
[11:45] <lior83> hi, can somebody help me?
[11:45] <Rich43> kjm: ive tried 16 and 24.
[11:45] <jayt> crimsun, it is here, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20591 thanks for looking
[11:46] <searayman> Warbo:  u still here?
[11:46] <POVaddct> Raubkopierer: is that one of those semi hardware raids?
[11:46] <Raubkopierer> POVaddct, yes...
[11:46] <Cunali> I attempted to boot up Ubuntu with the AMD64 Live CD, however shortly after it begins booting up the GUI, it simply freezes and doesn't progress any further. Though I do hear the ubuntu start up sound. I was suggested to turn acpi off at boot, but that didn't seem to work either. Any help would be appreciated :)
[11:46] <kjm> kk.  What is your model for laptop?
[11:46] <crimsun> jayt: that seems odd for Audigy 2
[11:46] <Raubkopierer> POVaddct, what do you mean... my english is not so good :)
[11:46] <Rich43> kjm: Toshiba Satellite 4090CDS
[11:46] <crimsun> jayt: what's the output from ``asoundconf list''?
[11:47] <Rich43> kjm: its quite old but high quality laptop :)
[11:47] <POVaddct> Raubkopierer: meins aber :)
[11:47] <searayman> Warbo: ?
[11:47] <Warbo> searayman: Hi
[11:47] <lior83> I upgraded my ubuntu to dapper and now my cdrom and usd doesn't works
[11:47] <jayt> crimsun: CA0106
[11:47] <Raubkopierer> POVaddct, lol...
[11:47] <searayman> Warbo:  so what was that command i type in to termianl now?
[11:47] <Warbo> xcompmgr -cfF
[11:47] <kjm> Rich43 : Are you sure it won't run at 1024x768?  p.s. I love the toshiba sattelites.  Had one for years before investing in an iBook
[11:47] <jayt> crimsun: CA0106
[11:47] <kjm> Rich43: Check here:http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-135.html
[11:48] <jayt> crimsun: sorry I am now debating with myself if the card type is correct
[11:48] <CyDrive> can someone help me i installed wine and windows version of firefrox how do i run firefox now?
[11:48] <searayman> Warbo:  ok so what can i do with it?
[11:48] <Rich43> kjm: it didnt like 1024x768 on windows it cropped alot of the screen off. Not tried on linux tho
[11:48] <dell500_> I just recently formated a 300GB SATA drive with a USB enclosure... the fs is in NTFS and I used the command 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 /media/usb-sata' but it says it's the wrong fs for some reason.
[11:48] <Warbo> CyDrive: run "wine C:\\Program\ Files\\Mozilla\ Firefox\\firefox.exe"
[11:48] <mako__> howdy all, i have a question I'm hoping someone can help- I've accidently changed /var/run/sudo to 0777 and cannot get sudo back
[11:48] <crimsun> jayt: if that's the output from asoundconf list, then it's correct.
[11:48] <mopflite> CyDrive: guessing - wine <path to firefox windows executable>
[11:49] <[Jessica] > grr
[11:49] <[Jessica] > it didn't work
[11:49] <CyDrive> okay thx
[11:49] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : still no luck?
[11:49] <Warbo> searayman: You should have shadows now, yes?
[11:49] <lior83> can you help me? I upgraded my ubuntu to dapper and now my cdrom and usd doesn't works
[11:49] <orbital04> quit
[11:49] <lior83> usb*
[11:49] <kjm> Rich43 : That page I sent you is for a different model laptop - but same screen.  Let me look up the specs of your model and see if I can help.
[11:49] <DBO> argh!!!
[11:49] <sethk> lior83, most likely it is a kernel configuration issue.
[11:49] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: nope.
[11:49] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: can I msg you?
[11:49] <sethk> lior83, I would boot the old kernel (assuming you still have it), and do lsmod to see what drivers you need.
[11:49] <jayt> crimsun, I'll certify the ca0106 - google is saying audigy SE
[11:50] <Raubkopierer> POVaddct, ?
[11:50] <dell500> anyone got any ideas? :)
[11:50] <Kyle122139> could someone help me? i need some help burning the ISO to a CD
[11:50] <compengi> how to install *.rpm applications
[11:50] <lior83> I already boot from my old kernel and there is no change
[11:50] <Warbo> !burn > Kyle122139
[11:50] <feet> you need the 'alien' program compengi
[11:50] <Rich43> kjm: it isnt a TFT screen. i will make that clear.. its the type they used before TFT
[11:50] <crimsun> jayt: does resetting the mixer levels help?
[11:50] <crimsun> jayt: invoke-rc.d alsa-utils reset
[11:50] <Warbo> !alien > compengi
[11:51] <POVaddct> Raubkopierer: i have no idea. i don't know this raid hardware (if it is real hardware raid at all...)
[11:51] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : yes
[11:51] <searayman> Warbo:  so what can i do wiht it now?
[11:51] <jayt> crimsun, no, still sounds like medium wave in the 60s with no channel :-)
[11:52] <lior83> in lsmod i see usbcore
[11:52] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : but i don't see any messages from you. did you identify with nickserv?
[11:52] <crimsun> jayt: a what?
[11:52] <Warbo> searayman: Find gcompmgr in Google, and I think xtransset is the right name for the translucency tool
[11:52] <Kyle122139> could someone help me burn an ubuntu livecd?
[11:52] <jayt> crimsun, a transistor radio in the 60's all hiss no music
[11:52] <cats> how are you gentlemen, all your base are belong to us, you are on the way of destruction. you have no chance to survive make your time
[11:52] <compengi> did someone had installed limewire on ubuntu?
[11:53] <wedTM> ~[ compengi ] ~ I did
[11:53] <crimsun> jayt: amixer output
[11:53] <kjm> Rich43 : Are you using the framebuffer X driver?
[11:53] <wedTM> it installs very easily, and works great.
[11:53] <feet> limewire and frostwire install nicely
[11:53] <Warbo> compengi: I would recommend gtk-gnutella
[11:53] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: shit
[11:53] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: I have to register here?
[11:53] <mako__> anyone have a clear idea of how to restore /var/run/sudo/ to 0700?
[11:53] <whoppix> i would like to know if anyone has some experience with WinTV tv-cards.. i have a wintv express tv card from hauppauge (chip revision D148) and i would like to know if it works out-of-the-box or if i have to get some additional drivers etc.. thx for tips and help in advance :)
[11:53] <[Jessica] > POVaddct: crap.
[11:53] <posthuman> !dvd
[11:53] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:53] <searayman> Warbo:  so shoudl i install gcompmngr?
[11:53] <Rich43> kjm: judging by my xorg.conf.. its using "trident" drivers..
[11:54] <cats> GNAA STRIKES IN 10 MINS MAKES YOUR TIME NOOB
[11:54] <compengi> wedTM, who did you install it, i have the previous version installed how can i remove it
[11:54] <POVaddct> [Jessica] : you just have to pick a password for your nick and register to nickserv
[11:54] <lior83> can you help me? I upgraded my ubuntu to dapper and now my cdrom and usd doesn't works, its not in the kernel or config files, may be its a module that not loaded
[11:54] <Rich43> kjm: i could be wrong
[11:54] <Warbo> searayman: That gives you more control over xcompmgr, but is not in Ubuntu (so look for it on Google). And I think xtransset will let you set the translucency of a window
[11:54] <Rich43> Heres my XOrg.conf: http://richieward.com/xorg.conf
[11:54] <Cunali> Any help please? :( => I attempted to boot up Ubuntu with the AMD64 Live CD, however shortly after it begins booting up the GUI, it simply freezes and doesn't progress any further. Though I do hear the ubuntu start up sound. I was suggested to turn acpi off at boot, but that didn't seem to work either. I have an AMD 64 3800 & Nvidia 7800GT. It does get some weird video artifacting, could it be my video card? Any help would be appreciated :)
[11:54] <kjm> Yes, but also, there is a kernel module for using the frambuffer. . .have you tried turning that on?  It may help.
[11:55] <sethk> Cunali, very likely it is something with the video card
[11:55] <searayman> Warbo:  so how do i install an rpm?
[11:55] <sethk> Cunali, sounds like it is actually running but you can't see it.
[11:55] <gnomefreak> sethk: you try not to
[11:55] <gnomefreak> searayman: you try not to
[11:55] <sethk> Cunali, did you try control-alt-g1
[11:55] <compengi> searayman, you need alien
[11:55] <gnomefreak> sorry sethk
[11:56] <sethk> gnomefreak, np
[11:56] <sethk> Cunali, sorry, control-alt-f1
[11:56] <Rich43> kjm: sorry how do I enable it?
[11:56] <Cunali> sethk, it runs to the point where i see the graphical ubuntu loadup screen where it would normally say like its loading messenger etc... but it doesn't actually show any of that
[11:56] <jayt> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20594 is that output
[11:56] <searayman> compengi:  warbo told me to get gcompmngr and i downloaded it and its an rpm
[11:56] <Cunali> sethk, no, what does ctrl+atl+f1 do? o.o
[11:56] <kjm> Rich43 : You can try $sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[11:56] <lucordes> could anyone be so kind and take a look at my post? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1375874#post1375874
[11:56] <tulio> does somebody know the repos for gtk+extra?
[11:56] <compengi> !alien > searayman
[11:56] <sethk> Cunali, should give you a console
[11:56] <kjm> Rich43 - when it asks about FrameBuffer, select yes.
[11:56] <Rich43> kjm: ok thanks
[11:56] <Warbo> searayman: get alien, then run "alien packagename.rpm" then double click on the deb it creates
[11:56] <dj_baggio> !converter
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about converter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <sethk> Cunali, BRB
[11:57] <dj_baggio> !midi to mp3
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about midi to mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <mako__> !sudo
[11:57] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:57] <Warbo> *"sudo alien packagename.rpm"
[11:57] <kjm> Rich43 : MAKE A BACKUP OF YOUR EXISTING XORG.CONF FILE FIRST
[11:57] <Cunali> okie sethk
[11:57] <cats> GNAA STRIKES in 5 MINS
[11:57] <cats> PREPARE TO DIE
[11:57] <mako__> !/var/run/sudo
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about var/run/sudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <lior83> can you help me? I upgraded my ubuntu to dapper and now my cdrom and usdbdoesn't works, its not in the kernel or config files, may be its a module that not loaded, what module should i look for? i see the usbcore and cdrom modles
[11:57] <feet> oh someone kick cats
[11:57] <kjm> Rich43 : In case it all goes to hell, you at least will have the original file to use
[11:57] <sbarn> how do I get ubuntu's 2.6.17 kernel?
[11:58] <TheGateKeeper> sbarn: there are howto's in the ubuntu forums
[11:58] <tyler_d> error on mounting after reading and following instrucitons for mounting ntfs reads: the folder contents could not be displayed... you do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hdd1".
[11:59] <sbarn> TheGateKeeper, ok thank you
[11:59] <tuliomgui> does somebody know the repos for gtk+extra?
[11:59] <tyler_d> any suggestions?
[11:59] <TheGateKeeper> sbarn: yw :-) hope you find what you are looking for
[11:59] <posthuman> whats a good cd burner for ubuntu/gnome?  I'm new to gnome, but installed it onto my laptop
[11:59] <cbx33> posthuman, they'll be a new one soon
[12:00] <compengi> posthuman, k3b is good
[12:00] <cbx33> pygi is working on it
[12:00] <cbx33> but he's gone off to bed I think
[12:00] <posthuman> yeah I love k3b..but thats for kde o.o..i guess that would work in xfce too
[12:00] <tyler_d> error on mounting after reading and following instrucitons for mounting ntfs reads: the folder contents could not be displayed... you do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hdd1". anyone help?
[12:00] <tyler_d> hard drive issue?
[12:00] <lior83> :(
[12:00] <tyler_d> :(
[12:00] <lior83> can you help me? I upgraded my ubuntu to dapper and now my cdrom and usdbdoesn't works, its not in the kernel or config files, may be its a module that not loaded, what module should i look for? i see the usbcore and cdrom modles
[12:00] <tuliomgui> someone knows how to fix the problem of the windows shuts down alone??
[12:00] <compengi> :)


[13:35] <gimzmoe> I was trying to run a service using systemd, the .service file is enabled/linked from /home and works fine after the system is started.  However the on reboot, the "file is not found" kills it until I daemon-reload.  I've tried adding Requires=home.mount and After=home.mount, but that's not enough.  any thoughts/clues?
[13:58] <alkisg> gimzmoe: put the service file inside the image instead of in /home?
[15:42] <gimzmoe> I would like toa void that, I'm managing a small cluster of diskless pxe that all share /home
[15:46] <gimzmoe> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/8307
[15:46] -ubottu:#ubuntu-server- Issue 8307 in systemd/systemd "man: document explicitly that unit files on mount points that are established at late boot cannot be read" [Closed]
[15:46] <gimzmoe> Seems I might have to eat the inconvenience
[16:04]  * ogra hands gimzmoe some mustard ...
[16:05] <gimzmoe> :p
[16:06] <gimzmoe> Systemd seems like such a kludge to use, I find every time I use it, it is a learning curve of trial and error