[11:14] <justsomemo> Question: Sometimes when I login to gnome, it boots into the splash screen, loads to my desktop, then the screen goes black and takes me back to the login screen.  This happens about 1/3 times.  Any ideas?
[11:14] <ramin> reinstall?
[11:14] <IRCMonkeyX> fyrestrtr: what should i write to source list ? sorry for this newbie question
[11:15] <ramin> justsomeo, reinstall
[11:15] <ramin> and back up
[11:15] <Herb> did i mention i did this all while drunk?
[11:15] <justsomemo> full reinstall?
[11:15] <Healot> justsomemo, logon with the failsage mode
[11:15] <ramin> yeah, won't take long
[11:15] <Healot> s/sage/safe
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> IRCMonkeyX: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[11:15] <ramin> backup ur data
[11:15] <ramin> I would do anything that is better
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> justsomemo: check ~/.xsession-errors
[11:15] <justsomemo> healot, that is a temp solution that has been working, but i cant just use failsafe all the time
[11:16] <ramin> well, a fresh install is always good
[11:16] <ramin> if maybe that is the only solution
[11:16] <IRCMonkeyX> fyrestrtr: do i need to put # in beginning ?
[11:16] <ramin> for irc?
[11:16] <ramin> yes
[11:16] <justsomemo> ramin: the ony problem is I already fresh installed yesterday, and the problem came back
[11:17] <ramin> it could be the cd
[11:17] <ramin> corrupted files
[11:17] <ramin> u know what i mean?
[11:17] <justsomemo> true
[11:18] <ramin> just don't waste like 20 cds, it could just have issues or something
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> IRCMonkeyX: no
[11:18] <justsomemo> could it be my theme?
[11:18] <ramin> which theme do u have
[11:18] <ramin> which one have u chosen
[11:19] <justsomemo> murrine
[11:19] <justsomemo> Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "murrine", at /usr/bin/checkgmail line 369.
[11:19] <ramin> let me look into it
[11:19] <ramin> i doubt it
[11:19] <ICE> hey anyone use nx free or free nx
[11:19] <ICE> here
[11:20] <ramin> although, u could give it a try
[11:20] <justsomemo> this error looks like it could be a bad one:
[11:20] <justsomemo> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[11:20] <justsomemo>   Major opcode:  145
[11:20] <justsomemo>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:20] <justsomemo>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:20] <justsomemo> Failed to open device
[11:20] <ramin> device?
[11:21] <justsomemo> No idea
[11:21] <ramin> just change it to a theme that it comes with
[11:21] <justsomemo> but there are like 5 instances of the error in the log
[11:21] <bbrazil> w
[11:21] <m0> hi does anyione know where I could find gset-compiz
[11:21] <ramin> nope, atleast i don't
[11:21] <Healot> !find compiz
[11:21] <ubotu> Found: compiz, compiz-gnome, compiz-kde
[11:22] <ramin> 765 people in this channel, and only like 10 active
[11:22] <ramin> wow
[11:22] <IRCMonkeyX> fyrestrtr: it worked, downloading now ,thanx
[11:23] <ubuntu_hammer> hi all, how are you?:)
[11:23] <FirstStrike> just peachy
[11:23] <ramin> it's funny cause i am chatting with chatzilla
[11:23] <DanaG> AArgh, something's eating my CPU.  How do I find out what it is?  It's not in Top.
[11:24] <ramin> it is so cool for a javascript program
[11:24] <ramin> :)
[11:24] <m0> it seems gset-compiz no longer exists
[11:24] <ICE> who uses remote desktop
[11:25] <ICE> win to linux
[11:25] <Healot> you can either use putty (with ssh) or vnc clients
[11:25] <ramin> which product of VMware do i download to run windows stuff in my linux box
[11:25] <ICE> got a question can you have sshd on two different prots
[11:26] <DanaG> Anyone?
[11:26] <ubuntu_hammer> does anyone know how to repair clvm error code 3 while installing soft? i red a lot about it and dont know what to do
[11:26] <Healot> ramin, workstation version
[11:26] <ramin> oh thanks
[11:26] <siXy> ramin - you probably want wine rather than vwmare or xen
[11:26] <ramin> i know, but i don't know how to download it
[11:26] <Healot> !info vmware-player
[11:26] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 11563 kB, installed size 31248 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[11:27] <ubuntu_hammer> people-please
[11:27] <ubuntu_hammer> :)
[11:27] <FirstStrike> DanaG: try ps -e
[11:27] <siXy> vmware/xen runs an entire windows os, whereas wine just emulate a windows envronment to allow you to run windows programs
[11:27] <ramin> wine is good
[11:27] <ramin> but how do i get it in my applications tab
[11:28] <Healot> ubotu is a person, respect robot ubotu
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a person, respect robot ubotu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <ramin> and actually run it
[11:28] <flo> hi, i downloaded totem-xine but I don't get sound when playing movies with audio codec "Windows Media Audio v2 (win32)". Where can i get the missing codecs?
[11:28] <siXy> plus vmware is definately non-trivial to install and set up
[11:28] <ICE> can you run sshd on two different ports ?
[11:28] <ubuntu_hammer> does anyone know how to repair clvm error code 3 while installing soft? i red a lot about it and dont know what to do
[11:28] <ICE> or no
[11:28] <siXy> ramin there is very likely a wine package for ubuntu -search the repositorys
[11:28] <ramin> okay,
[11:29] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[11:29] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[11:29] <siXy> ramin: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[11:29] <ramin> thanks!
[11:29] <siXy> np
[11:29] <Warbo> ramin: WINE is not actually an application. WINE lets you run Windows applications, so install WINE then double click your .exe files
[11:29] <DanaG> Okay, so it's gnome-settings-daemon that's eating CPU.
[11:29] <y0shi> why doesn't Enable Automatic Login works?
[11:29] <DanaG> WTF?
[11:29] <ramin> oh
[11:29] <ramin> so i could just download an exe and open it with wine
[11:30] <y0shi> Wine is an application, that lets you run windows applications.
[11:30] <ubuntu_hammer> does anyone know how to repair clvm error code 3 while installing soft? i red a lot about it and dont know what to do
[11:30] <siXy> ramin: wine emulates a load of windows apis,, so when wine is running, just open a .exe as you would in windows and it should run
[11:30] <ramin> but how do i get wine running?
[11:30] <Herb> "emulation", damn liquor.. could not remember that word
[11:30] <ramin> where do i click to start it, sorry, i suck
[11:31] <ramin> but just help me on this
[11:31] <siXy> install it like it says on that link i sent you, then start the service
[11:31] <Healot> WINE is not emulator
[11:31] <y0shi> ramin, you can use the command line: wine app.exe
[11:31] <Warbo> ramin: You can run it from a terminal with "wine program-name.exe"
[11:31] <ramin> oh okay
[11:31] <y0shi> why doesn't Enable Automatic Login works?
[11:32] <maz> is wine free?
[11:32] <Herb> "performance hit", isn't that a sister phrase of emulator?
[11:32] <ramin> yes
[11:32] <y0shi> maz: yes
[11:32] <ramin> all linux stuff is
[11:32] <ramin> atleast, i think
[11:32] <v3> I connect to the net via a proxy server. There are many proxies that my university runs. How do i find the best onne automatically ? is there any program that does that ?
[11:32] <maz> cool y0shi
[11:32] <ramin> dude, wine is pimp
[11:32] <v3> the more basic requriement is to find a proxy that works ... i am talking of http proxies
[11:32] <siXy> ramin: not true. lots of linux stuff is, but by no means all
[11:33] <ramin> that's true
[11:33] <shism> hello
[11:33] <kakado> ramin, not all, eg Oracle programs are not free
[11:33] <realist> I've had some applications run -better- on linux under wine, than on windows itself...
[11:33] <shism> does ubuntu 5.10 come with gtk ?
[11:33] <ramin> I have actually put my windows harddrives away for a while
[11:33] <msikma> Does anyone know if there is a page where I can see exactly which possible cursors I can make for a cursor theme?
[11:33] <ramin> does WINE allow u to run programs that need internet connection
[11:34] <msikma> Or should I look at other cursor themes for information?
[11:34] <shism> im trying to install wxpython
[11:34] <shism> checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
[11:34] <shism> checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.0.0... no
[11:34] <shism> *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
[11:34] <shism> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[11:34] <shism> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.
[11:34] <shism> configure: error:
[11:34] <shism> get that error message
[11:34] <kakado> ramin, yes I once tried IE
[11:34] <Herb> realist: what type of apps?...  P2P clients?
[11:34] <ICE> hey can I run sshd on two seperate ports
[11:34] <ICE> say like 22 and 8000
[11:34] <ramin> oh good, cause i wanted to run msn messenger in it
[11:34] <snakehit> .rpm can you get that .deb?
[11:34] <realist> Herb: a few games, actually.
[11:35] <kakado> ramin, gaim is a good alternative
[11:35] <siXy> ramin: just use gaim - it will work with msn, yahoo and probably others too, and save messing around with windows emuloation
[11:35] <ramin> is that like wine
[11:35] <ramin> oh
[11:35] <Healot> the best for Penguin world I'd say
[11:35] <JoshHendo> I have recieved a email from launchpad encrypted (I have the key that it is encrypted with). I am trying to register my own key. How do I decrypt the email message?
[11:35] <ramin> nevermind
[11:35] <ramin> i now remember what gaim is
[11:36] <realist> JoshHendo: what mail client?
[11:36] <siXy> gaim is an instant messaging prog for linux that iirc installs by defualt in ubuntu desktop (not used desktop version for a while tho so not 100% sure)
[11:36] <ramin> but doesn't gaim have stuff that some can't do
[11:36] <realist> ramin: or you could forget MSN client all together, and use jabber, with an MSN transport
[11:36] <Warbo> !info grub
[11:36] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 748 kB
[11:36] <shism> how do i get the gtk development files?
[11:36] <ramin> i don't know
[11:37] <shism> argh
[11:37] <mp3guy> I've got a problem with disappearing drivers
[11:37] <realist> shism: apt-cache search gtk-dev
[11:37] <thoreauputic> shism:  apt-cache search python wx  <--- I think you'll find wxpython is installable without compiling anything
[11:37] <ramin> actually, i just ran gaim
[11:37] <ramin> it looks real cool
[11:37] <ramin> thanks for the tip guys
[11:38] <siXy> shish ubuntu development packages end in -dev but i cant remember the exact name of the one you want
[11:38] <sioux> hi people :-)
[11:39] <ramin> gaim only shows the people that are online
[11:39] <realist> siXy: man apt-cache
[11:39] <ramin> that kinda sucks
[11:39] <realist> ramin: you can change that.
[11:39] <ramin> oh good
[11:39] <realist> I prefer it though
[11:39] <ramin> yeah
[11:39] <realist> Less clutter
[11:39] <shism> dam couldnt find it
[11:39] <mp3guy> ramin: try looking around the program for yourself, theres tonnes of options
[11:39] <ramin> yep
[11:40] <realist> shism: which development files are you after, exactly?
[11:41] <mp3guy> is there anyone here who can help me with my nvidia card?
[11:41] <shism> no.. ive found them
[11:41] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, whats the problem?
[11:41] <ramin> u can also add new friends to ur list. right?
[11:41] <gmak> mp3guy you want to install the driver I presume
[11:41] <realist> ramin: sure
[11:41] <ramin> okay
[11:41] <shism> I just did the apt-cache search thingo and it didnt find anything to do with wxpython
[11:41] <realist> ramin: it's all in the 'buddies' menu
[11:42] <ramin> oh yeah
[11:42] <ramin> thanks
[11:42] <ramin> LINUX IS AWESOME!
[11:42] <damian_> is there an undo feature somewhere?
[11:42] <thoreauputic> shism: it does - did you do what I typed ?
[11:42] <realist> ramin: I happen to agree with you :-)
[11:42] <ramin> LLL=Long live linux
[11:42] <Awesome-o2000> ramin, sure beats paying 200 bucks for a half broken buggy turd of an OS eh?
[11:43] <siXy> when it works.....
[11:43] <damian_> I agree with siXy
[11:43] <ramin> yeah, *cough cough windows cough cough*
[11:43] <Awesome-o2000> I have to say, ubuntu is really fantastic
[11:43] <thoreauputic>  apt-cache search python wx  <<- lots of results
[11:43] <siXy> im rapidly going off ubuntu as a server os however
[11:43] <a_l_e> hello, i have much too many fonts on my ubuntu system... is there a clean way to get rid of them?
[11:43] <Awesome-o2000> siXy, what are you using for server?
[11:43] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, gmak, well I started having a problem where upon boot the /lib/modules/(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/nvidia directory would have disappeared and I'd have to use the nv driver to boot up and reinstall the nvidia driver, I also found that if I run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it doesn't automatically detect my card, which is used to do. I tried a full reformat/reinstall but stil the same
[11:43] <ramin> apache
[11:43] <realist> shism: python-gtk2-dev perhaps?
[11:44] <damian_> is there an undo feature in ubuntu?
[11:44] <siXy> well it works well as a lamp server, but I am not impressed with it for a dns server
[11:44] <ramin> if u want a server with a GUI, install server programs for ur ubuntu
[11:44] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, :(( thats not cool - do you have pnp bios enabled in the bios?
[11:44] <a_l_e> i've never manually install those fonts... thy must be bundled to some soft... but which?
[11:44] <siXy> server and gui should never be used in the same sentance imo
[11:44] <ramin> for example, MySQL, PHP,
[11:44] <ramin> why not
[11:44] <realist> siXy: debian is a nice alternative :-)
[11:44] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, no, I haven't changed anything in the bios since
[11:45] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, what is your HW setup?
[11:45] <siXy> massive, unnesecary resource hog, not to mention the security implications
[11:45] <ramin> u mean GUI
[11:45] <ramin> i guess
[11:45] <Awesome-o2000> ramin, what do you prefer for server?
[11:45] <chronoAZ> how can i load ubuntu (desktop installation) with only a command line?
[11:45] <chronoAZ> i cbf reinstalling a server version
[11:45] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, I have a pentium 4 prescott 2.4GHz, 768mb ram and a Geforce 3 Ti 500 64mb agpX4 graphics card, and an auidigy 4
[11:45] <thoreauputic> chronoAZ: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:46] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, similar to mine - does your motherboard have an onboard video card?
[11:46] <thoreauputic> chronoAZ: assuming you have a base install
[11:46] <ramin> maybe FEDORA OR RED HAT
[11:46] <siXy> giving gentoo another whirl atm
[11:46] <Awesome-o2000> ramin, both gui oriented too
[11:46] <ramin> i know
[11:46] <Awesome-o2000> siXy, gentoo is nice.
[11:46] <ramin> but they are good
[11:46] <chronoAZ> thoreauputic: i have a desktop install but i only want to use a command line (since i dont want to have to install the server version)
[11:46] <Awesome-o2000> siXy, I give those guys props for a fine distro as well
[11:46] <damian_> is there an undo feature in gnome?
[11:46] <ramin> I actually know some websites which run on RED HAT
[11:46] <Awesome-o2000> ramin, lots of them do
[11:46] <ramin> although, what would u prefer
[11:46] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, no, it doesn't. Any idea whats wrong? I thought the HD was dying, but it couldn't still be the same after I reformatted and scanned it all, could it be my graphics card or mobo?
[11:46] <kakado> damian_, clarify undo
[11:47] <ramin> yep
[11:47] <thoreauputic> chronoAZ: umm - could you rephrase that? It didn't seem to make sense
[11:47] <siXy> its between ubuntu,gentoo and centos for this server atm and while centos(redhat) is what im used to, its not great performance wise
[11:47] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, your card works when you load up the module yourself, right?
[11:47] <damian_> kakado: like if I accidentally move a file somehwere I'd like to be able to undo the move from nautilus
[11:47] <siXy> ubuntu just does things in such a weird (to me) way everything takes much longer
[11:47] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, yep it works 100% when the driver is loaded. I found the driver disappears when fsck runs
[11:47] <ramin> maybe
[11:48] <ramin> But i just like ubuntu cause of the GUI
[11:48] <ramin> and how shiny it is
[11:48] <ramin> SPIFFY....
[11:48] <chronoAZ> thoreauputic: i don't want to use a gui with my system but i have the desktop version of ubuntu installed
[11:48] <Herb> ubuntu works great for great for connecting to IRC
[11:48] <ramin> of course
[11:48] <Faithful> I want to clean out my apt transaction log... I started to install an application that I realized was older than the one I have... but now it it is insisting on doing it every time I run apt
[11:48] <chronoAZ> thoreauputic: how can i disable gnome and x?
[11:48] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, thats REALLY not a good sign. Someone here might be able to help you out with HD diagnostics, which I'd recommend trying out the manufacturers disk, and dmesg might be able to tell you something useful
[11:48] <thoreauputic> chronoAZ: ah I see - wellyou can just disable gdm
[11:48] <sioux> People but  Mark Shuttleworth who is this man?
[11:48] <ailean> What do I need to install to get sound juicer to rip to mp3? Note, I already have the plugins to PLAY them.
[11:48] <tuxtux> ciao
[11:49] <chronoAZ> thoreauputic: ah ok thanks
[11:49] <kakado> damian_, only the trash, but not with move, then there is the filesystem, debugfs for ext2/3
[11:49] <thoreauputic> chronoAZ: uninstall gdm or just do ctrl-alt-F1 or whatever...
[11:49] <Herb> shuttleworth is a spaceman
[11:49] <ramin> it seems like none of my programs can play MP3's
[11:49] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, as far as making the module load automatically I think its either an init.d entry or you can just add it to /etc/modules
[11:49] <ramin> WHY!
[11:49] <thoreauputic> chronoAZ: or remove the gdm startup script
[11:49] <damian_> ramin: you don't have any codecs installed
[11:49] <DanaG> Wow, gnome-settings-daemon is really heating up my CPU.
[11:49] <DanaG> Quite massively.
[11:49] <chronoAZ> thoreauputic: ok thanks
[11:49] <damian_> ramin: do sudo rm -rf /
[11:49] <siXy> ramin you probably dont have the codec installed
[11:49] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[11:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:49] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, but I can't see how even after a reformat it just happens to delete the same files and the same directory and nothing else
[11:49] <ramin> k
[11:49] <sioux> a spaceman very rich thanks to proprietary software itsen't it?
[11:49] <damian_> ramin: no
[11:49] <damian_> ramin: stop
[11:50] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, me either - how are you installing the drivers?
[11:50] <damian_> ramin: I was kidding
[11:50] <ramin> then what
[11:50] <damian_> ramin: that will delete everything
[11:50] <ramin> oh, what does that do
[11:50] <ramin> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[11:50] <damian_> lol
[11:50] <ailean> damian, don't do that
[11:50] <ramin> I AM A NOOB
[11:50] <r000t> someone here know anything about software raid and how to use it in dapper????
[11:50] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, just through synaptic, its weird that dpkg-reconfigure doesn't detect my card
[11:50] <ramin> where do i get codecs?
[11:50] <damian_> ramin: everyone from 4 miles away can tell that
[11:50] <damian_> ramin: lemme get you a guide
[11:50] <ramin> k
[11:50] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, I dont know synaptic, but im pretty sure the linux binary drivers are part of linux-restricted-modules
[11:50] <ailean> damian_, are you gonna help or what?
[11:50] <ramin> thanks
[11:51] <crparr> Hi! I'd like to do the following: I've downloaded the Ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu and ubuntu server isos. I'd like to create a DVD with a grub boot selector. Is this possible? If yes, how?
[11:51] <ramin> ailean, comeon,
[11:51] <dibblego> how do I schedule a wget command to execute at midnight?
[11:51] <Herb> is codecs anything like crabs? i know where to get them...
[11:51] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, yeah they are, I install from the repos
[11:51] <mrkinder> I've been having troubles with mp3s too, I did pretty much everything codec related in the synaptic package manager but to no avail, am I barking up the wrong tree?
[11:51] <damian_> ramin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:51] <ramin> cool, i will try
[11:51] <kakado> dibblego, man cron
[11:51] <mrkinder> I'll have a look there too
[11:51] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, then I would suspect that you have HD issues - does dmesg tell you anything about your drive?
[11:51] <Awesome-o2000> any kinda i/o errors or anything?
[11:52] <thoreauputic> dibblego: once only? use "at " If every midnight, use "cron"
[11:52] <damian_> ailean: you've never played around w/ a noob before?
[11:52] <ramin> can i install codecs from the link u gave me?
[11:52] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, no, nothing about it. Its only a a year old, 80gb samsung ide
[11:52] <dibblego> thoreauputic, just tonight
[11:52] <damian_> ramin: it's a guide that will teach you how to install the codecs
[11:52] <ailean> damian_, this room is for helping, NOT playing around
[11:52] <damian_> ramin: read it and follow the instructions
[11:52] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, so you have to reinstall linux-restricted-modules every time?
[11:52] <ramin> alright
[11:52] <r000t> someone here know anything about software raid and how to use it in dapper????
[11:52] <ailean> damian_, what if he had typed that?
[11:52] <damian_> ailean: one less linux noob i guess
[11:52] <thoreauputic> dibblego:  at midnight <enter> wget your.url.here.com
[11:53] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, yes everytime they disappear
[11:53] <thoreauputic> dibblego: then hit dtrl+D
[11:53] <ramin> damian, how long have u been using ubuntu
[11:53] <dibblego> thoreauputic, thanks
[11:53] <thoreauputic> *ctrl+D
[11:53] <damian_> ramin: 1 year, been using linux for 5
[11:53] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, that just doesnt make any sense to me - is your kernel a non-standard kernel?
[11:53] <ramin> nice
[11:53] <ailean> damian_, i can take a joke, but these chat rooms are supposed to be helpful.
[11:53] <ramin> i just installed linux today
[11:53] <thoreauputic> dibblego: check that - I think "at" understands "midnight" but you might need 12 am
[11:53] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, standard 386 kernel
[11:53] <ramin> so it wouldn't have deleted much
[11:53] <dibblego> thoreauputic, ok cheers
[11:54] <damian_> ramin: one word of warning
[11:54] <damian_> ramin: linux has a steep learning curve
[11:54] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, you need to use the 686 kernel
[11:54] <ramin> yeah
[11:54] <damian_> ramin: so have patience
[11:54] <ramin> okay
[11:54] <ramin> for now, i love it
[11:54] <thoreauputic> dibblego: to see that the job has registered, type atq
[11:54] <Awesome-o2000> I'm assuming a p4 2.4 doesnt have HT
[11:54] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000 happened with the 286 and the 686 kernel
[11:54] <mp3guy> *386
[11:54] <ramin> would that have even deleted my ubuntu?
[11:54] <dibblego> thoreauputic, seems ot be working, thanks
[11:54] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, you need to install the 686 kernel
[11:54] <Herb> are the words "codec" and "plugin" sometimes synonymous?..  I'd like Rhythmbox to play more filetypes than just OGG...
[11:54] <ramin> or just files
[11:55] <thoreauputic> dibblego: to remove it type atrm <job number>
[11:55] <thoreauputic> dibblego: OK :)
[11:55] <damian_> ramin: it would have deleted the entire OS
[11:55] <Awesome-o2000> and then you need to install the linux-restricted-modules package
[11:55] <ramin> shi*
[11:55] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, I had it installed, I always use it, I just tried the 386 today
[11:55] <damian_> ramin: but it would have left your windows partition untouched
[11:55] <damian_> ramin: assuming you have one
[11:55] <ramin> which i dont
[11:55] <Flannel> Herb: sort of, yeah. a codec tells programs how to decode things
[11:55] <siXy> herb: technically no, but that doesnt mean that they arent sometimes used to mean the same thing
[11:56] <PurpleTet> hello, i want to use a teamspeak pugin thats only has an exe file n some dlls, how do i do this?
[11:56] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, thees ees not cool - it sounds like you have some bad sectors on your drive
[11:56] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, so I'll have to replace
[11:56] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, dont replace until verifying
[11:56] <siXy> purpletet why not just download the linux client?
[11:57] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, what can I use to verifiy?
[11:57] <Awesome-o2000> get the manufacturers diagnostic cd
[11:57] <PurpleTet> siXy: i do hav the linix client
[11:57] <PurpleTet> its a plugin that im tryin to use
[11:57] <ramin> he wants the all mighty famous one
[11:57] <PurpleTet> a*
[11:57] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, with the cd (you should be able to download an iso image) you will be able to run a non destructive test on your hard drive, and a complete surface test
[11:58] <Awesome-o2000> although I tell you, I sure wouldnt mind taking a peek through your bios.
[11:58] <siXy> ah. well in that case you would need to run the windows ts2 client using wine and run the plugin from that. a windows plugin will not work with the linux client
[11:58] <ramin> i am surprised that in the education tab, they did not have any stuff about C++
[11:58] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, I'll check the bios next restart, maybe I hit something, what CD does I use to scan?
[11:58] <ramin> only HTML and other stuff
[11:58] <abo> do you know what's the pakage name of Hobbit, to install ? I mean I do sudo apt-get install hobbit  it doesn't work!
[11:58] <PurpleTet> ohk sixy
[11:58] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, you have to go to the samsung website and download it
[11:58] <ramin> VISTA BETA sucks
[11:58] <ramin> tried
[11:59] <ramin> it
[11:59] <Awesome-o2000> and you'll have to find it for yourself
[11:59] <PurpleTet> siXy: this is the plugin that im tryin to run http://www.planetteamspeak.com/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_details/gid,36/Itemid,69/
[11:59] <PurpleTet> you reckon you can walk me throught it?
[11:59] <ramin> can't even detect ur sound card and ethernet
[11:59] <Awesome-o2000> ramin, no fun eye candy like xgl?
[11:59] <ramin> yeah...
[11:59] <Awesome-o2000> :(
[11:59] <ramin> XGL?
[11:59] <Flannel> !offtopic
[11:59] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:59] <ramin> what would that be?
[12:00] <neeo> does anyone know how to change the icons in openoffice.. I c that when using it in kde, it has better looking icons.. how can I get these when using it in gnome?
[12:00] <siXy> "Platform    	Windows 32-Bit" - you will need to run wine to use this plugin
[12:00] <PurpleTet> how do i do that?
[12:00] <PurpleTet> im a noob... forgive me
[12:00] <Awesome-o2000> ramin, http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/ and from what ive heard, ubuntu has Xgl too, but you'll have to do the ubotu thing about it
[12:00] <ramin> okay
[12:00] <epitaf> A little thought.. is ther supposed to happen something when I middle-mousebutton-click on the desktop?
[12:00] <Awesome-o2000> Im not familiar with ubuntu and xgl
[12:01] <fm_> hi
[12:01] <Awesome-o2000> ran nice on gentoo but the 3d rendering is weird, real weird
[12:01] <ramin> yep
[12:01] <siXy> purpletet: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[12:01] <PurpleTet> siXy: can u pm me n spoonfeed me plz :)...i really hav no idea
[12:01] <Awesome-o2000> how do you use uboto?
[12:01] <Awesome-o2000> !xgl
[12:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:01] <mrkinder> Oooh, heres one. I've been running 64 bit ubuntu for the short time I've been using linux full stop, and from the literature I'm reading it sounds a hell of a lot easier to use 32 bit and I'm not seeing any benefit from 64 whatsoever, should I just start again with 32 bit or will that not work with my chipset?
[12:01] <Awesome-o2000> there we go!
[12:01] <ramin> guys, does anyone here like learning
[12:02] <mp3guy> Awesome-o2000, they only have software for windows
[12:02] <fm_> I have a acer laptop, and ACPI seems to work fine : when I unplug my computer the screen brightness is decreased. But I wanna be able to change this brightness myself. So how does the acpi daemon do this?
[12:02] <ramin> learning bittorrent trackers?
[12:02] <Awesome-o2000> mrkinder, should work just fine, and really fast to boot
[12:02] <siXy> that tells you how to get and install wine. then just d/l the win32 ts2 client and fire away
[12:02] <Awesome-o2000> mp3guy, no iso image???
[12:02] <mp3guy> no
[12:02] <ramin> if u like gamez and appz and moviez, go here
[12:02] <ramin> http://scenereactor.org
[12:03] <mrkinder> Awesome-o2000, and the other argument? Is it worth bothering to persist with 64 bit? Why is it even there? Is it just so uber-geeks can say they have it for the sake of it?
[12:03] <Pinkle_Rose> hello
[12:03] <mrkinder> Coz god knows no bugger supports it
[12:03] <tengil> how do i turn if ipv6 easiest in ubuntu. i read somewhere to add alias net-pf-10 off to modules.conf or modprobe.conf but i dont seem to have those. i tried adding net-pf-10 off to /etc/modules though but i get "ipv6: Unknown parameter `off'" in dmesg
[12:04] <Awesome-o2000> mrkinder, development?
[12:04] <octan> im having problems after a  update.. i use synaptic, but after the update with adept synaptic stoped working, when i try to run it i get this error message:
[12:04] <octan> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:04] <DarkMageZ> octan, you are an xgl or compiz user?
[12:04] <noiesmo> octan, are you running xgl/compiz
[12:04] <Awesome-o2000> mrkinder, from what ive heard its good for very HW intensive stuff, but I'll have to plead ignorance to its benefits in a linux environment other than the crazy, crazy bus speeds
[12:05] <thoreauputic> octan: this looks like a bug - several people have reported the same error
[12:05] <octan> not at the moment, but i got it installed yes
[12:05] <siXy> fm_: iirc its the system bios that does that nothing to do with the os
[12:05] <thoreauputic> octan: I think it's a bug - I 've seen several reports of this
[12:05] <Pinkle_Rose> when i try to start synaptic in terminal i have message that "libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[12:05] <Hagbarddenstore> Hey! Who should I talk with about a new regged channel? Just started #xubuntu-se for Swedes who use Xubuntu...
[12:05] <octan> ok
[12:05] <Awesome-o2000> Hagbarddenstore, #freenode?
[12:05] <Awesome-o2000> oops
[12:05] <DarkMageZ> octan, you have updated the libvte packages from a 3rd party repository, please see #ubuntu-xgl for your particular problem
[12:05] <noiesmo> octan, ok join #ubuntu-xgl and ask dbo for help
[12:05] <Herb> swedebuntu
[12:05] <Awesome-o2000> #freenode ?
[12:06] <Pinkle_Rose> what package from repo add this lib
[12:06] <gmak> swedes who use ubuntu?
[12:06] <Pinkle_Rose> ?
[12:06] <mrkinder> Awesome-o2000 Thanks, just one more thing, I got this system pretty much exclusively to use cinelerra, but its a real ball ache even trying to get it to work, but I'm told its designed with 64-bit in mind. Have you come across this before?
[12:06] <ramin> *ubuntu christian edition. WTF?*
[12:06] <Awesome-o2000> dbo? like from the movie friday?
[12:06] <gmak> come on....
[12:06] <thoreauputic> octan: my expectation would be that tis will be fixed as it seems quite common
[12:06] <Hagbarddenstore> Awesome-o2000:  Hm...
[12:06] <ramin> http://linux.softpedia.com/
[12:06] <fm_> siXy but I saw no option in my bios, it must be os-controllable cuz windows does it
[12:06] <Nookie^> gmak: japp
[12:06] <octan> ok thxz guys
[12:06] <Scottrix> WOO!!! ALT+TAB and compiz working together in harmony :)
[12:06] <Awesome-o2000> mrkinder, I havent used it in a year - but its a pretty nice program. A linux Avid clone, right?
[12:07] <keithhhh> hey anyone have opinions on installing flash for firefox
[12:07] <ramin> yes
[12:07] <ramin> just go to the site
[12:07] <siXy> fm_: my laptop screen dimms when the power is unplugged even if I am just in bios or a basic dos/linux session
[12:07] <mrkinder> Not sure, all I know is its for video editing, and its a hell of a lot cheaper than adobe premiere and can do your dishes and all sorts
[12:07] <thoreauputic> !flashplugi-nonfree
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashplugi-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <Herb> my bandwidth slows when i fush my toilet
[12:07] <thoreauputic> !flashplugin-nonfree
[12:07] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[12:07] <Warbo> Does GRUB automatically make /boot/grub if you install it?
[12:07] <ramin> or download the pllugin
[12:07] <Awesome-o2000> mrkinder, in MY experience, it worked like a CHAMP on 32 bit with a cluster. thats some crazy, crazy stuff and it makes it rather easy.
[12:07] <siXy> more advanced power stuff like cpu scaling ect requires acpi to be working correctly
[12:07] <mrkinder> I'm only just getting used to the idea of not paying for OR pirating software
[12:08] <thoreauputic> Herb: get a bigger pipe ;-)
[12:08] <daniele_> #ubuntu-it
[12:08] <Awesome-o2000> mrkinder, I had a main node w a p4 2.0 and five p4 1.6's
[12:08] <Awesome-o2000> good, good stuff
[12:09] <mrkinder> Awesome-o2000 I'm just running a single machine here, I won't be using it for high-def or anything like that
[12:09] <Awesome-o2000> kept up with the Avid box, just didnt have the crazy capabilities for stuff like avid did, and i dont know what a lot of that is
[12:09] <Awesome-o2000> mrkinder, have you seen the kind of HW that prog calls for anyhow? rendering video is no joke...
[12:10] <ramin> alright, i gotta go, thanks everyone
[12:10] <Warbo> I have just got someone to install grub (as in the package, not grub-install), but they don't have a /boot/grub folder
[12:10] <Awesome-o2000> even the basic stuff isnt exactly lite fare
[12:10] <mrkinder> Awesome-o2000 I was assured that for regular editing it was fine, I did look at the recommended specs and argued with him but he insisted his specs were regular
[12:10] <chronoAZ> Awesome-o2000, what os+software did u use for the cluster?
[12:11] <mrkinder> him being the idiot that talked me into all this in the first place
[12:11] <Awesome-o2000> chronoAZ, when I first tried it out it was on a livecd distro and I can't remember the name
[12:11] <chronoAZ> k
[12:11] <Awesome-o2000> hold on Im thinking
[12:12] <mrkinder> alright, I'm gonna try 32 bit before I get too deep. Thanks again awesome-o, nice name btw
[12:12] <mrkinder> cya around
[12:12] <Awesome-o2000> Im pretty sure I used Centos + openmosix
[12:12] <Awesome-o2000> im not too sure about that
[12:12] <Pensacola> woppa
[12:12] <Pensacola> en het werkt :)
[12:12] <Awesome-o2000> you know I think cinelerra may have had its own clustering tool built in
[12:12] <Awesome-o2000> I was playing with openmosix at the time
[12:13] <Awesome-o2000> this was actually 2 years ago
[12:13] <Awesome-o2000> b/c it was the 2.4 kernel
[12:14] <fyrestrtr> Pensacola: could you please turn that script off, thanks.
[12:14] <Pensacola> jep, it's turned off now
[12:14] <Pensacola> sorry was in wrong channel :)
[12:14] <rixth> Would a 16mb HD cache make a big different over a 8mb one if using it in a RAID fileserver setup?
[12:15] <fyrestrtr> depends on the kind of operations you are using the RAID for.
[12:15] <Herb> comet, is was that the precurser to the falcon?
[12:15] <rixth> fyrestrtr, it's an extra $10, go for it?
[12:15] <Herb> is was that*
[12:15] <fyrestrtr> if for storage, then no. If for redudancy, then no. If for constant read/writes, then yes.
[12:15] <fyrestrtr> rixth: yesh.
[12:16] <Awesome-o2000> rixth, hell yes
[12:16] <flo> hi. my almost fresh 6.06 install froze 2 times, firefox and oo crashed quite often...
[12:16] <Awesome-o2000> flo, you have HW issues.
[12:16] <flo> should i check kernel config maybe?
[12:16] <flo> Awesome-o2000, RAM maybe?
[12:16] <fyrestrtr> if you are doing one-time writes and constant reads, then a cache doesn't make a difference. If you are using it as the storage area for blender rendering, then yes they will help.
[12:16] <Awesome-o2000> flo, not using stock kernel?
[12:16] <Awesome-o2000> flo, sounds like ram - run memtest
[12:17] <flo> stock?
[12:17] <fyrestrtr> he means unmodified.
[12:17] <Awesome-o2000> flo, did you compile your own kernel or did you install an ubuntu one
[12:17] <flo> memtest, can i run it from running system or from CD?
[12:17] <Awesome-o2000> flo, it SHOULD be in your boot menu
[12:17] <flo> Awesome-o2000, the ubuntu one
[12:17] <flo> Awesome-o2000, ah yes. ok
[12:17] <Awesome-o2000> flo, a lot of the time mem errors are also just a bios set up improperly
[12:18] <Awesome-o2000> i have found 9/10 "hardware errors" are just setup errors
[12:18] <flo> what setting do you think of?
[12:18] <siXy> can anyone help me with rndc?
[12:18] <Awesome-o2000> flo, mem timings, cpu timings
[12:19] <siXy> no matter how i set it up i always get a connection refused error
[12:19] <flo> i'll check bios settings if sth seems bad to me.
[12:19] <flo> brb
[12:19] <Awesome-o2000> good luck to flo
[12:19] <Awesome-o2000> I have to attempt some sleep
[12:20] <Sikon> I use a mouse with a laptop, can I disable its touchpad?
[12:20] <siXy> dont really understand why rndc doesnt just work - never had this much trouble with it on anything else
[12:20] <jism> hello
[12:21] <Awesome-o2000> trolling a linux support channel?
[12:21] <jism> im trying to install two packages
[12:21] <Awesome-o2000> cmon now
[12:21] <jism> in ubuntu 5.10
[12:21] <harm_> i cant seem to install pure-fptd the package is removed?
[12:21] <jism> how do i force install them using dpkg
[12:21] <jism> kangacunt@ubuntu:~$ dpkg -i libwxgtk2.5.3-python_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu4_i386.deb
[12:21] <jism> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[12:21] <jism> kangacunt@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -i libwxgtk2.5.3-python_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu4_i386.deb
[12:21] <jism> Password:
[12:21] <jism> (Reading database ... 70861 files and directories currently installed.)
[12:21] <jism> Preparing to replace libwxgtk2.5.3-python <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu4 (using libwxgtk2.5.3-python_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu4_i386.deb) ...
[12:21] <jism> Unpacking replacement libwxgtk2.5.3-python ...
[12:21] <jism> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libwxgtk2.5.3-python:
[12:22] <jism>  libwxgtk2.5.3-python depends on wxpython; however:
[12:22] <jism>   Package wxpython is not installed.
[12:22] <jism>   Package wxpython2.5.3 which provides wxpython is not configured yet.
[12:22] <Awesome-o2000> what a surprise.
[12:22] <harm_> FLOOD
[12:22] <harm_> i cant seem to install pure-fptd the package is removed?
[12:22] <jism>  libwxgtk2.5.3-python depends on libwxgtk2.5.3 (>= <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu4); however:
[12:22] <jism>   Package libwxgtk2.5.3 is not installed.
[12:22] <jism> dpkg: error processing libwxgtk2.5.3-python (--install):
[12:22] <jism>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[12:22] <jism> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:22] <jism>  libwxgtk2.5.3-python
[12:22] <jism> would anyone please be able to help me
[12:22] <PyroManiak> Anyone know why my laptop keyboard wont repeat keys (in linux), but an external keyboard will?
[12:22] <harm_> jism stop flooding
[12:22] <jism> harm im not
[12:22] <jism> jesus
[12:22] <jism> have a cry
[12:23] <thoreauputic> jism: that was not only flooding, but serious flooding
[12:23] <harm_> i cant seem to install pure-fptd the package is removed?
[12:23] <keithhhh> Hey was VLC taken out of ubuntu from version 5.10 to 6.06??
[12:23] <thoreauputic> jism: use a pastebin next time
[12:24] <jism> ok I shall
[12:25] <jism> any ideas?
[12:25] <jism> kangacunt@ubuntu:~$ dpkg -i libwxgtk2.5.3-python_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu4_i386.deb
[12:25] <jism> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[12:25] <jism> kangacunt@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -i libwxgtk2.5.3-python_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu4_i386.deb
[12:25] <jism> Password:
[12:25] <jism> (Reading database ... 70861 files and directories currently installed.)
[12:25] <jism> Preparing to replace libwxgtk2.5.3-python <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu4 (using libwxgtk2.5.3-python_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu4_i386.deb) ...
[12:26] <jism> Unpacking replacement libwxgtk2.5.3-python ...
[12:26] <jism> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libwxgtk2.5.3-python:
[12:26] <jism>  libwxgtk2.5.3-python depends on wxpython; however:
[12:26] <jism>   Package wxpython is not installed.
[12:26] <jism>   Package wxpython2.5.3 which provides wxpython is not configured yet.
[12:26] <jism>  libwxgtk2.5.3-python depends on libwxgtk2.5.3 (>= <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu4); however:
[12:26] <jism>   Package libwxgtk2.5.3 is not installed.
[12:26] <jism> dpkg: error processing libwxgtk2.5.3-python (--install):
[12:26] <jism>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[12:26] <jism> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:26] <jism>  libwxgtk2.5.3-python
[12:26] <siXy> can someone kick this idiot?
[12:26] <KenSentMe> I'm trying to upload my photo's to an online photoprint service called Kruidvat.nl using Firefox. The site uses a Java applet to manage the photos. When i try to upload the pictures i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21068 . Is that a problem on my side or is it a problem of the site?
[12:27] <[UNLY] mrp> anyone can help me with installing ubuntu on a single hard drive? I downloaded the iso and installed it on a hard drive but its not there when i take the cd out.
[12:27] <snakehit> its die hard to install airsnort :P
[12:28] <siXy> kensentme: it may be one of those sites that just doesnt work properly in firefox
[12:28] <ketsugi> Any Kubuntu users around? I have a question about Katapult and there's hardly anyone in the #katapult channel
[12:28] <snakehit> [UNLY] mrp,  you burned the iso?
[12:28] <[UNLY] mrp> yes its on cd
[12:28] <snakehit> you can boot of it?
[12:28] <[UNLY] mrp> yes
[12:29] <snakehit> then you see the install icon
[12:29] <[UNLY] mrp> yes.
[12:29] <KenSentMe> Heeft iemand van jullie ooit de online printservice van het Kruidvat gebruikt vanuit Ubuntu? Ik krijg deze error als de Java-applet mn foto's probeert te uploaden: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21068
[12:29] <snakehit> KenSentMe,  ja
[12:29] <KenSentMe> Sorry, wrong channel
[12:29] <snakehit> ge moet uw Java updaten
[12:29] <KenSentMe> snakehit: thanx
[12:29] <nightattack> hello, i'm trying to install kubuntu-desktop but when i try to install the package it gives me an error about language-selector-qt, can anyone help me :P
[12:30] <snakehit> You have NL ubutnu too KenSentMe ?
[12:30] <KenSentMe> snakehit: yes, please join ubuntu-nl so we can talk dutch, ok?
[12:30] <alek> hi
[12:30] <alek> why I must download package ubuntu-desktop, when I want to upgrade ubuntu from CD ?
[12:31] <[UNLY] mrp> ?
[12:32] <chronoAZ> what files do i need to change to change the hostname?
[12:32] <kashual> lo dude 2 all
[12:33] <harm_> i cant seem to install pure-fptd the package is removed?
[12:33] <harm_> i cant seem to install pure-fptd the package is removed?
[12:33] <chronoAZ> because im getting : sudo unable to lookup server via gethostbyname() when i try to run $ sudo <cmd>
[12:33] <bbrazil> chronoAZ: check /etc/hosts
[12:35] <chronoAZ> bbrazil, ah thanks alot
[12:36] <siXy> has anyone here managed to get rndc working on ubuntu server?
[12:38] <mus0> how can I reboot ethernet?
[12:38] <jatt> mus0: ifdown
[12:38] <mus0> or all network connections?
[12:39] <siXy> ifdown eth0
[12:39] <mus0> jatt, ifdown and then ifup?
[12:39] <jatt> mus0: /etc/init.d/networking stop
[12:39] <jatt> mus0: you could try /etc/init.d/networking restart better
[12:40] <jatt> mus0: they use ifup/ufdown internally
[12:40] <siXy> mus0 - yes ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0
[12:40] <mus0> ah, the restart seeems to be working out. thanks jatt and siXy
[12:40] <Herb> 379 commands
[12:41] <nightattack> hello, i'm trying to install kubuntu-desktop but when i try to install the package it gives me an error about language-selector-qt, can anyone help me :P
[12:42] <chops-> is there anyway to get the pass if u can't workout the su pass ?
[12:44] <redguy> chops-, what are you trying to do?
[12:45] <chops-> well trying to access my superuser
[12:45] <chops-> but for some reason its not the same pass as my admin user
[12:46] <chops-> i was thinking of booting up in the recovery root prompt and reset the pass but i dont know the command
[12:46] <Rookie-> sudo su- <usepwd> - gets you root privi.
[12:47] <redguy> chops-, su wants the root user password
[12:47] <redguy> chops-, which is disabled by default, use sudo -i to get root access
[12:47] <chops-> ohh ok
[12:47] <Rookie-> but of some reason ppl think that su means superuser - it means Switch User
[12:47] <chops-> let me try
[12:47] <m0> hi I am trying to install a Theme
[12:48] <m0> And it says in the INSTALL file that Choose the window decoratos
[12:48] <Rookie-> root - superuser and last user ...
[12:48] <m0> 1.Choose the controls LiNsta2
[12:48] <m0> 2.Choose the window decoratos LiNsta2
[12:48] <m0> I did #1, but how do we do #2 ?
[12:49] <thoreauputic> m0: look at the details tab in the theme dialogue
[12:49] <Rookie-> no idea ... i dont use GUI
[12:49] <zim_> does any one know if there is any plans to add ifolder server to any of the repository's
[12:49] <zim_> if not why
[12:49] <m0> thoreauputic: I clicked on Theme Details
[12:49] <redguy> zim_, ifolder as in novell ifolder?
[12:50] <[sharma] > whats the ubuntu equivalent to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth ?
[12:50] <m0> I only see Controls, Icons tab
[12:50] <thoreauputic> m0: there should be a window border and an icon tab there
[12:50] <redguy> [sharma] , /etc/network/interfaces
[12:50] <realist> [sharma] : /etc/network/
[12:50] <[sharma] > thx
[12:50] <zim_> yup but it is now open source bit like sun open office
[12:50] <m0> thoreauputic: All I see is Controls, Icons tabs
[12:50] <_2L8> my ubuntu just starts with a black screen, tty1-6 work anyone has an idea?
[12:50] <redguy> zim_, oh, didn't know
[12:51] <zim_> look Vkewl
[12:51] <chops-> ok sudo -i worked
[12:51] <thoreauputic> m0: odd. I have the three I described ( this is in gnome on 6.06 )
[12:51] <chops-> into the root now
[12:51] <m0> thoreauputic: same here I got latest ubuntu build
[12:51] <zim_> cant wait to apt-get ifolder server
[12:51] <m0> thoreauputic: I wonder why I dono't have the window tab :S
[12:51] <m0> thoreauputic: problem after problem
[12:51] <thoreauputic> m0: does the window border tab show on other themes?
[12:52] <redguy> zim_, did you consider packaging it yourself?
[12:52] <m0> thoreauputic: no
[12:52] <zim_> yes tried but not a uber geek so ****** it up
[12:52] <thoreauputic> m0: hmm - dunno then - sounds like the theme function is broken for some reason
[12:53] <m0> thoreauputic: :s I don't know how to fix it
[12:53] <thoreauputic> hang on a second
[12:53] <zim_> that why i love ubuntu (apt-get install *) just works
[12:53] <redguy> zim_, if not consider adding it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates
[12:53] <zim_> ty did not know about that
[12:53] <zim_> will do
[12:54] <thoreauputic> m0: try  sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-control-center
[12:54] <redguy> zim_, you might also want to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New
[12:54] <zim_> will do
[12:54] <m0> thoreauputic: okay
[12:55] <thoreauputic> m0: that appears to be the package that contains gnome-theme-manager
[12:55] <m0> okay done
[12:55] <thoreauputic> m0: you might need to logout/login
[12:55] <m0> okay
[12:55] <m0> brb :)
[12:56] <Kyja> Hello all :)
[12:56] <y0shi> for some reason my Sans font is gone.. can someone send it to me?
[12:56] <y0shi> I can't find anywhere to download it.
[12:57] <Warbo> trying to install GRUB on /dev/sda isn't working
[12:57] <Warbo> says couldn't find a device for /boot
[12:58] <Kyja> Why would firefox and chatzilla quit qithout warning? they crash and the entire threads disapear. this has happened many times.
[12:58] <KenSentMe> Kyja: have you tried running ff from console to see if there's any error there?
[12:59] <Kyja> good idea. very very good idea.
[12:59] <Kyja> bbs
[12:59] <KenSentMe> bbs?
[01:01] <FirstStrike> KenSentMe: bbs = be back soon
[01:02] <KenSentMe> FirstStrike: ah, knew what brb meant, but didn't know bbs
[01:02] <Acke> hey anyone tried to connect a wifi card in linux with a wifi card running windows?
[01:02] <y0shi> can anyone help me with the Sans?
[01:02] <y0shi> can't find the font.:\
[01:04] <FirstStrike> y0shi: google it
[01:04] <y0shi> I tried... can you link me?
[01:04] <PyroManiak> can you killall <app1>,<app2> basically.. one command kill 2 processes?
[01:05] <FirstStrike> there's a lot of different sans-serif fonts..
[01:06] <RamiKassab> hey guys do you have any recommendations for all in one archive utilities? One that can extrac rar files as well. The built it gnome one doesn't do rar
[01:06] <RamiKassab> I downloaded unrar but it's just a company line interface
[01:06] <RamiKassab> company = command
[01:06] <RamiKassab> way off on that one :)
[01:07] <PyroManiak> hmm.... ok... can killall be used on more then one process?
[01:07] <jatt> PyroManiak: yes if they belong to the same process group
[01:08] <RamiKassab> is fileroller a good choice? what is the most popular archive manager?
[01:08] <PyroManiak> jatt: no, these are 2 seperate processes... I was hoping to be able to write killall <app1>,<app2>
[01:08] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: I seem to recall that some people have been able to use file-roller with rar by installing unrar-nonfree from multiverse
[01:08] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: hey nice to see ya again man
[01:08] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: but I don't know as I don't use rar here :)
[01:08] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: is file roller a popular choice?
[01:09] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: it's the default ( built in)
[01:09] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: I normally don't either but I downloaded some torrents that are rared
[01:09] <thoreauputic> for gnome/ ubuntu
[01:09] <thoreauputic> right
[01:09] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: oh so it is already installed, hmm I'll install unrar-nonfree then
[01:09] <FloK> re
[01:09] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: I would try unrar-nonfree ( I think that's the package name)
[01:10] <PurpleTet> ermmm.. i *****up winecfg
[01:10] <thoreauputic> !unrar-nonfree
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unrar-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <thoreauputic> bah
[01:10] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: yeah that's it, I saw it when looking for unrar. If I have that, do I not need unrar anymore?
[01:10] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: no idea, sorry :)
[01:10] <PurpleTet> i need help with wine
[01:10] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: heh no worries, thanks... once again :)
[01:11] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: wtf, when I try to install it it says 'unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate' what the hell does that mean?
[01:12] <thoreauputic> maybe I got the name wrong...
[01:12] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: they have an unrar-free as well
[01:12] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: could that be it?
[01:12] <geser> RamiKassab: the free unrar is now called unrar-free and the non-free is called unrar again
[01:12] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: looks like "unrar" is the non-free version
[01:12] <RamiKassab> geser: so installing just unrar will get file roller to recognize the format?
[01:12] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: what's the free and nonfree mean?
[01:13] <geser> i hope so
[01:13] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: I don't know - have you tried it?
[01:13] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: gonna try it now
[01:13] <eigenlambda> i think it would be fun if the md5sum utility gave you a progress bar
[01:13] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: presumable one of them is patent encumbered or something
[01:13] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: worked :)
[01:13] <RamiKassab> geser: thanks for the clarification
[01:13] <eigenlambda> would help with md5summing 6.7GB files
[01:13] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: ah, good :)
[01:14] <PurpleTet> i cant assign C drive in Wine
[01:14] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: do you know if gaim supports window flashing when a message is received? my windows don't flash like x-chat does when I get an IM in gaim
[01:14] <nox-Hand> p/part
[01:15] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: again I have to say I don't know :)
[01:15] <Warbo> PurpleTet: "export WINE_PREFIX=/wherever/you/want"
[01:15] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: mine makes annoying sounds ;)
[01:15] <PurpleTet> ya i did that
[01:15] <Warbo> oh
[01:15] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: lol I turned sounds off. God I hate those!
[01:15] <PurpleTet> it just resets to something else
[01:16] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: :D
[01:16] <PurpleTet> i add a drive C that points to the folder
[01:16] <PurpleTet> but when i press apply n close it.. then reopen winecdf it just resets to something else
[01:16] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: what does a window do when you send it the "URGENT" hint?
[01:17] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: gaim does have a plugin for notifying you of messages btw
[01:17] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: umm - i rarely use gaim
[01:17] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: they allow you to prepend an * to the window title along with the number of unread messages as well if you wnat
[01:17] <RamiKassab> want
[01:17] <Josbeat> anyone here uses aircrack
[01:17] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: but not flash the window! :(
[01:18] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: my ignorance of gaim is almost total I'm afraid
[01:18] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: what do you use, if I may ask?
[01:18] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: IRC :)
[01:18] <nopcode> IM sux
[01:18] <nopcode> there, you have it
[01:18] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: oh lol obviously, no IM client though eh
[01:18] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: I used to do IM years ago, but I rarely use it these days
[01:19] <Josbeat> hi all
[01:19] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: I see
[01:19] <kashual> http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/55  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< cool installable themes for gnome and kde
[01:19] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: I'm really a bit of a hermit to be honest :)
[01:20] <kashual> need no compile or other just install with theme selector
[01:20] <ajmitch> thoreauputic: so those who've met you in person should be honoured? :)
[01:20] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: :) we all are sometimes... no worries
[01:20] <thoreauputic> ajmitch: not sure about that :)
[01:21] <thoreauputic> ajmitch: were you at UDU by any chance?
[01:21] <nopcode> well IM is the actual isolationaist's choice
[01:21] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: the URGENT hint option worked :)
[01:21] <nopcode> because you can only talk to single persons at a time
[01:21] <thoreauputic> nopcode: true
[01:22] <ajmitch> thoreauputic: of course I was, I remember meeting you
[01:22] <thoreauputic> nopcode: whereas as an op on IRC you can be abused in /msg by hordes of people at once ;-P
[01:22] <jrib> When jhbuild tries to build libXrender, it returns: checking for X... configure: error: Package requirements (x11) were not met:  No package 'x11' found.  Anyone familiar with this?  I have libx11-dev installed and am not sure why it complains
[01:22] <thoreauputic> ajmitch: aha!
[01:23] <nopcode> thoreauputic: then you dont have to join a channel that sounds like free support ;)
[01:23] <nopcode> musnt
[01:23] <sa0> hi all
[01:23] <sa0> someone with asus laptop
[01:23] <sa0> who could help with bluetooth ?
[01:23] <Josbeat> yes, im using a laptop
[01:23] <Josbeat> no bluetooth yes
[01:24] <Josbeat> sorry
[01:24] <sa0> np
[01:24] <sa0> someone else ?
[01:25] <tuxedo0304> hi, searching for some help with sound with flash in firefox. It worked fine with the previous kernel, but doesn't since the last dapper kernel upgrade
[01:25] <sa0> which kernel tuxedo0304 ?
[01:25] <tuxedo0304> well, the latest dapper, let me see
[01:26] <jrib> !flash > tuxedo0304
[01:26] <sa0> 2.6.15-26-386 ?
[01:26] <sa0> !bluetooth
[01:26] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[01:27] <lkz> Hi, how do I copy directories recursively but ignore hidden files/directories (starting with a dot) ?
[01:27] <tuxedo0304> ok it's 2.6.15-26 it worked fine with 2.6.15-23
[01:28] <kashual> http://download.freshmeat.net/[..] nther-gtk/panther-gtk-default-0.3.tar.gz   <<<<< lets your gnome desktop view in mac os x style ...
[01:28] <tuxedo0304> flash version is 7.0 r63 from macromedia
[01:29] <linux_user400354> i need grub help please. i lost grub from installing windows.
[01:29] <tuxedo0304> yes, 2.6.15-26-386
[01:29] <linux_user400354> !grub
[01:29] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:30] <nutshell42> lkz: cp -r olddir/* newdir/
[01:31] <ailean> jrib, did that screen output help fix the synaptic bug yesterday?
[01:31] <lkz> nutshell42, there are subdirectories in olddir which also contain hidden files :)
[01:31] <shiv> !projector
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about projector - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <shiv> !lcd
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <shiv> !vga
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <ailean> shiv, /msg ubotu
[01:31] <jrib> ailean: yes thanks, it turns out it was from the compiz repos
[01:32] <shiv> :)
[01:32] <ailean> jrib, ahhh :$
[01:32] <nutshell42> lkz: ... =P
[01:32] <ailean> jrib, well that explains it for me too :)
[01:32] <shiv> I love you guys here
[01:32] <shiv> :0
[01:32] <shiv> I was a religious ubuntu user for 6 months
[01:32] <nutshell42> lkz: you could write a shell script
[01:32] <shiv> tried PCLOS it is great but the people there are assholes
[01:33] <shiv> I am back to ubuntu
[01:33] <lkz> nutshell42, trying to avoid that, but after searching the net for ages, it seems to be the only option
[01:33] <shiv> the best distro of the century
[01:33] <nutshell42> "grub-install /dev/hdaX where X is your Ubuntu root install" shouldn't that be "grub-install /dev/hdx where x is the first entry in your boot order"?
[01:33] <PurpleTet> i cant assign C drive in Wine
[01:34] <ailean> PurpleTet, not through winecfg?
[01:34] <nutshell42> lkz: why exactly don't you want the .files copied?
[01:34] <Warbo> nutshell42: Know much about grub-install? I am having problems with it
[01:34] <PurpleTet> ailean: nop not through winecfg
[01:34] <PurpleTet> it just wont let me
[01:34] <ailean> PurpleTet, seems to allow me
[01:34] <ailean> PurpleTet, try running it with sudo
[01:35] <nutshell42> Warbo: not really, but I think the last time I needed it it wanted the disk and not the partition as argument =)
[01:35] <nutshell42> Warbo: what's your problem?
[01:35] <PurpleTet> ailean: i did something stupid wit it
[01:35] <simplydazed> Is the linux-686-smp kernel fine for Intel Core Duo processor's?
[01:35] <PurpleTet> i reassigned the c to some other folder
[01:35] <EffEffEss> simplydazed: yes
[01:35] <ailean> PurpleTet, oh right - try #winehq
[01:35] <PurpleTet> ohk
[01:35] <ailean> :)
[01:35] <PurpleTet> on this server?
[01:36] <ailean> aye
[01:36] <simplydazed> EffEffEss: thanks
[01:36] <ailean> yes, i mean
[01:36] <PurpleTet> kool
[01:36] <PurpleTet> thx
[01:36] <ailean> np
[01:36] <Warbo> nutshell42: Trying to help someone install GRUB to a USB drive. So far we've debootstrapped a system, chrooted to it and now all that remains is GRUB
[01:37] <lkz> nutshell42, because they are .svn and I need to copy everything else but them, checkout release is not an option
[01:38] <nopcode> hey, where do i get the executable grub-set-default?
[01:38] <nopcode> i've got ubuntu 5.04
[01:38] <nutshell42> Warbo: honestly, I've not much experience with usb-drives and not enough with grub to tell you what to do; if you run into a specific problem and can tell me, I can try to help you, but atm I can only recommend that you search on gentoo.org and after that on google for a solution =)
[01:39] <Warbo> I am already in #grub :(
[01:40] <nutshell42> lkz: I just think it should be easier to copy everything and delete the hidden files afterwards =)
[01:45] <afief> How can i view the boot log?
[01:45] <linux_user400354> !log
[01:45] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[01:46] <afief> linux_user400354: boot log, not irc log
[01:46] <DevGet> how to block an ip from connecting to a server?
[01:46] <linux_user400354> afief: man bootlogd
[01:46] <tom12519> Does anybody know how I can tunnel my current X session over VNC?
[01:46] <realist> How do I change my WikiName at wiki.ubuntu.com?
[01:46] <linux_user400354> yes i know
[01:47] <iNiku> DevGet: man iptables
[01:47] <linux_user400354> tom12519: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH?highlight=%28ssh%29%7C%28vnc%29
[01:47] <afief> linux_user400354:bootlogd records the boot log, but i have no idea where
[01:48] <tom12519> linux_user400354, thanks
[01:48] <linux_user400354> afief: you should read the man pages to find out where
[01:48] <linux_user400354> afief: somewhere in /var/log i am sure
[01:49] <HeathenDan> is there a gui way of creating password-protected rar file?
[01:49] <iNiku> tom12519: that will not let you access your current desktop remotely, though
[01:49] <iNiku> tom12519: you need x11vnc for that
[01:49] <rizo> hi
[01:50] <sa0> please someone ... i'm trying to apply a patch for asus acpi support but the file acpi_asus.h is not in linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 !!!
[01:50] <rizo> I need some help in opening ports in ubuntu breezy
[01:50] <rizo> i have firewall installed firestarter
[01:50] <rizo> how do i do this
[01:50] <sa0> acpi_asus.c sorry
[01:51] <linux_user400354> rizo: firestarter is not a firewall. it configures the linux firewall, iptables in an user friendly gui way.
[01:51] <iNiku> sa0: that sounds like you'll need to compile your own kernel. you need the kernel source package for that
[01:51] <ompaul> mistraal, sent u a pm :)
[01:51] <rizo> yes i know sorry
[01:51] <iNiku> sa0: you also need a fair bit of knowledge
[01:52] <rizo> but it doesn't have no feature to ope ports
[01:52] <linux_user400354> why not use a vanilla kernel unmodified from linus and friends
[01:52] <rizo> open*
[01:52] <sa0> iNiku, np for knowledge ... but where to find that specific package you're telling about
[01:52] <iNiku> sa0: the problem is you cannot patch the kernel without compiling your own
[01:52] <rizo> anyone?
[01:52] <sa0> ok i will so
[01:52] <DanaG> Oh hey, now that I have Edgy, I can edit the kernel config to get what I want, without breaking restricted-modules.
[01:53] <sa0> but no pb on ubuntu ?
[01:53] <iNiku> sa0: make sure you know what you're getting into, first
[01:53] <iNiku> sa0: but the kernel source package is called linux-source
[01:53] <DanaG> Things compiled 686 can work with pentiumm kernel, right?
[01:53] <mistraal> since synaptic broke yesterday and the temp fix, I no longer can use my Alt Gr key on my spanish keyboard. Anyone else experienced that?
[01:54] <giladg> Hi all, can someone please help me configure a 5 button mouse on ubuntu?
[01:54] <rizo> never mind i found it
[01:54] <iNiku> sa0: what's pb?
[01:55] <zim_> redguy you still here
[01:55] <sa0> iNiku, no bluetooth support cause wrong acpi support
[01:55] <DanaG> 5-button mouse?
[01:55] <DanaG> What model?
[01:55] <iNiku> sa0: um... I'm not following
[01:55] <zim_> guess not after looking at the list
[01:56] <giladg> MS Intellimouse Explorer
[01:56] <sa0> my laptop (asus w5a)
[01:56] <giladg> (USB)
[01:56] <DanaG> aah, it shouldn't be too hard.
[01:56] <DanaG> I have an MX700, and what I ended up doing was to use evdev.
[01:57] <sa0> but acpi included atm is for M2E model !
[01:57] <sa0> iNiku,  ?
[01:57] <iNiku> sa0: okay, and there's a kernel patch that is known to fix it?
[01:57] <zim_> can anyone help me i have requested Ifolder Server on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates is there anything more i have to do or can anyone tell me of any planes to add it to any repositories
[01:57] <giladg> DanaG, could you please explain what's evdev?
[01:58] <DanaG> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mouse_Nav_Buttons
[01:58] <sa0> iNiku, yep
[01:58] <DanaG> Ignore all this "emerge" stuff -- Ubuntu already has the evdev driver.
[01:58] <sa0> iNiku, http://www.sk-tech.net/support/asus_w5a.html
[01:58] <giladg> thanx for the wiki link
[01:58] <iNiku> sa0: then you'll need to get the kernel source package, extract it, patch it and find out how to configure and compile the source into a proper ubuntu kernel
[01:58] <giladg> just to make sure, ubuntu uses Xorg?
[01:59] <chops-> how do i install the make command
[01:59] <DanaG> Lemme dig up a better how-to.
[01:59] <iNiku> sa0: the wiki probably has something on that. I haven't compiled any ubuntu kernels so I wouldn't know
[01:59] <thoreauputic> chol: install build-essential
[01:59] <chops-> ok thx
[01:59] <DanaG> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Talk:HOWTO_Advanced_Mouse
[01:59] <thoreauputic> chops-: sorry that was for you
[01:59] <sa0> ok thx however iNiku
[01:59] <zim_> has anyone in here got iFolder Server to work on ubuntu
[01:59] <chops-> yeah i understood
[01:59] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:59] <iNiku> sa0: apt-get install linux-source should get you started
[01:59] <DanaG> There's a way to specify a mouse by name in xorg.conf.
[01:59] <sa0> i'm on it
[02:00] <silverpower> Is there a way to force a package to install? I'm 100% sure that the dependency in question is met.
[02:00] <iNiku> sa0: also... it's possible that the patch won't apply cleanly to the ubuntu kernel sources
[02:00] <sa0> ok
[02:00] <iNiku> in which case you may want to try a vanilla kernel source, but that may cause all kinds of other problems if it ends up being too different from the ubuntu ones
[02:01] <DanaG> I'll look at my own xorg.conf.
[02:01] <iNiku> but again, someone else probably knows more about this... I've never compiled a kernel for an ubuntu box
[02:01] <chops-> thoreauputic what dir to i do the install build-ess from ?
[02:01] <DanaG> Do "cat /proc/bus/input/devices"
[02:01] <thoreauputic> chops-: doesn't matter
[02:01] <chops-> i got some error
[02:01] <zim_> has anyone here looked at iFolders IMO this is one of the kewlist OS projects at the mo http://www.ifolder.com/index.php/Main_Page
[02:01] <thoreauputic> chops-:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:01] <adarof> hi #
[02:01] <DanaG>     Identifier     "Logitech Mouse"
[02:01] <DanaG>     Driver         "evdev"
[02:01] <DanaG>     Option         "SendCoreEvents" "true"
[02:01] <DanaG>     Option         "Name" "Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse"
[02:02] <chops-> missing destitantion file operand after build-essential
[02:02] <thoreauputic> chops-: huh?
[02:02] <chops-> arhh ok let me try it
[02:02] <giladg> DanaG, i put this under InputDevice?
[02:03] <DanaG> Well, don't copy it verbatim -- change a copy of the existing "configured mouse" (# comment out the original) to match.
[02:03] <DanaG> You have to find out the specific ID of your device.
[02:03] <thoreauputic> chops-:  sudo apt-get install apt-howto && apt-howto   ;-)
[02:03] <DanaG> cat /proc/bus/input/devices
[02:04] <DanaG> In a console.  It may need sudo
[02:05] <giladg> yeah, ok... i got that since, my mouse isn't logitech ;)
[02:05] <HeathenDan> can i play wormux against an ai opponent?
[02:06] <giladg> under Identifier, i give it whatever name i want to?
[02:07] <DanaG> Yeah, but it also has to be referred to by the same name in ServerLayout.
[02:07] <DanaG> By default, I believe the buttons should be correct.
[02:07] <giladg> OK, will do... thanx
[02:07] <DanaG> 6 and 7 are thumb buttons.  Some apps take them as horizontal scroll, others as forward and back.
[02:08] <Kezzer> Christ Ubuntu is easy to install now ;o
[02:08] <Kezzer> I just installed it on this machine last night using the latest ISO - liveCD installation, very clever :]
[02:09] <thoreauputic> Kezzer: yeah, they should change the slogan to "Linux for primates" ;-P
[02:09] <DanaG> I wish BIOSes supported booting from ISO files.
[02:10] <auxi> Kezzer, I hated the installation, it kept screwing :(
[02:10] <silverpower> Okay, if I can't force the package to install, can I at least make a dummy package to get apt-get to shut up about already-resolved dependencies?
[02:10] <Kezzer> auxi: mine was fine
[02:11] <Kezzer> It went very slow, but other than that it went absolutely perfect
[02:11] <auxi> Kezzer, What was on your H/D before you installed it ?
[02:11] <Kezzer> root, boot, swap, windows, two more partitions for windows and an ext3 partition
[02:11] <auxi> Kezzer, Hm... I was installing off an official CD, and it kept messing at partitioning
[02:11] <Kezzer> I just told the installer to wipe everything ;)
[02:11] <giladg> do i need to get rid of all of the other options (ZAxisMapping, Emulate3Buttons, etc.)?
[02:12] <Kezzer> auxi: depends what option you chose I guess
[02:12] <Kezzer> I wonder whether the correct ATi drivers are installed then? Not sure how it all works now
[02:12] <DanaG> Oh, just copy the existing config and comment it out.
[02:12] <Kezzer> I'm not exactly good with Linux
[02:12] <DanaG> evdev doesn't need zaxismapping.
[02:13] <giladg> what about "Device" and "Protocol"?
[02:13] <DanaG> Evdev lets you get by with just Driver and Option "Name"
[02:13] <linux_user400354> !ati
[02:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:14] <DanaG> Though you need to make it either CorePointer or SendCoreEvents.
[02:17] <giladg> ok got it, now while trying to save, it says permission denied.. how do i apply the changes?
[02:19] <DanaG> Oh, you can copy the whole file to the clipboard, then run "gksu gedit"
[02:19] <DanaG> and then select all and paste, then save.
[02:21] <DanaG> And in the future, do the initial editing in gksu gedit.
[02:21] <giladg> under root?
[02:22] <linux_user400354> thats the command for running gedit as root
[02:22] <Flamekebab> is anyone available to help me unb0rk dpkg?
[02:22] <Flamekebab> I managed to get most of the way through doing a net install of Breezy
[02:22] <Flamekebab> then it threw an error
[02:23] <Flamekebab> I did my best to fix it, but dpkg is still refusing to work properly
[02:23] <Flamekebab> it will install things, but has issues finishing all the jobs I give it
[02:23] <Flamekebab> it says as follows:
[02:24] <mirzapirza> does ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso run as a live cd? i remember my friend getting the cds sent to him and i tried the ppc on my ibook - live cd. but if ubuntu runs live, what's the point of gnoppix?
[02:24] <Flamekebab> "dpkg: ../src/packages.c:191: process_queue:Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[02:24] <Flamekebab> and then it exits unexpectedly
[02:25] <Flamekebab> mirzapirza, how do you mean, what's the point?
[02:25] <mirzapirza> i need a simple live cd to recover some files from a windows xp that won't boot.. so easily mounting ntfs drives and burning cds or ethernetting to my ibook would be nice. go with ubuntu?
[02:26] <mirzapirza> live cd as in, does it run off the cd, without having to install it?
[02:26] <SillyZ> gmornin
[02:26] <giladg> thanx, using gksu gedit did the trick. do i need to reboot?
[02:26] <Flamekebab> mirzapirza, as I understand it, 6.06 install CDs have basic liveCD functionality
[02:26] <SillyZ> Flamekebab, it does
[02:26] <mirzapirza> okay, good to know
[02:27] <SillyZ> Im running 6.06.1 as we speak
[02:27] <Flamekebab> although you could probably use synaptic to temporarily install a CD burning app
[02:27] <SillyZ> gives you an icon the click on on the desktop to 'install'
[02:27] <CrazyDoode> anybody try the ATI x1300 or x1600 yet?
[02:27] <mirzapirza> but that makes me curious then, what's the point of gnoppix?
[02:27] <Flamekebab> SillyZ, perhaps you could help me with my problem
[02:27] <SillyZ> Ill give it a try ... whats the q ?
[02:27] <snoops> yeah chucking in dapper desktop edition will let you do what you want mirzapirza.. either burning to cd (less likely but maybe) but definitely should be able to send over network
[02:27] <DanaG> Oh, no reboot is needed.
[02:28] <mirzapirza> sweet
[02:28] <DanaG> You just have to hit ctrl-alt-backspace to restart -- preferably after logging out of Gnome to save your session.
[02:28] <Direc> hi!
[02:28] <Flamekebab> Well I've a nice little Toshiba 3490CT with a USB floppy drive, no CD drive and I can't boot from USB
[02:28] <waspius> hi has anyone used kleansweep???
[02:28] <waspius> cause i dont know how safe it is to remove stuff
[02:28] <Flamekebab> so I attempted an install using Breezy Netinstall floppies
[02:28] <SillyZ> Flamekebab join #sillyz, well chat over there
[02:28] <Flamekebab> which worked mostly, but threw errors late in the process
[02:28] <giladg> ok, thanx
[02:28] <Flamekebab> okays
[02:29] <Direc> Does anyone have a SIP account, Ekiga and a webcam? I would like to test it...
[02:30] <Toma-> Direc: try the ekiga.net mirror
[02:30] <Toma-> Direc: i think its<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:30] <spark33> Distrowatch
[02:30] <Direc> Toma-: Tried that already :)
[02:30] <Toma-> Direc: does it work?
[02:30] <exs_> Hello. I'm having some difficulty using azureus. Everything seems to work fine, but I am unable to close tabs on it, for example if I open options, I then have that window perminently open as a tab, there's no X on the tab.
[02:31] <Direc> Toma-: Yes, but I'd just like test it "IRL" :)
[02:31] <Toma-> ahh right
[02:31] <Toma-> ill pop up my ekiga. its down stairs thol so whats your account?
[02:31] <Fenster> hey guys.. anyone suggest a good mp3 player for gnome?
[02:32] <Toma-> Fenster: xmms
[02:32] <Awesome-o2000> Fenster, xmms
[02:32] <Awesome-o2000> woohoo
[02:32] <Fenster> thx
[02:32] <virogenesis> bmpx
[02:32] <virogenesis> :)
[02:32] <silverpower> audacious.
[02:32] <Toma-> bmpx > xmms
[02:32] <phos> hey, ive got a problem with synaptic
[02:32] <phos> it wont open
[02:32] <virogenesis> bmpx is ace :)
[02:32] <void^> exs_: unless you've enabled the option to hide the close buttons it's probably one of the various bugs in ubuntu's azureus/swt packages, your best option is to use a package from azureus.sf.net and http://azureus.sourceforge.net/index_CVS.php
[02:33] <Toma-> phos: have you run it in a terminal yet to see what the error is?
[02:33] <nopcode> anyone with some grub-experience? "savedefault 0" doesnt work in a grub boot entry
[02:33] <HeathenDan> totem!
[02:33] <silverpower> BMPx has a slight problem - it uses GStreamer.
[02:33] <nopcode> on ubuntu 5.04
[02:33] <Fenster> hrmmz.. xxms is a winamp clone :\
[02:33] <phos> gives the error : error loading shared library libvte.so.4; no such file
[02:33] <Fenster> im lookin for somethin more like foobar
[02:33] <phos> of course :D
[02:33] <silverpower> Fenster, amarok
[02:33] <silverpower> , then.
[02:33] <virogenesis> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:33] <virogenesis>   <-- alot are getting this problem :)
[02:33] <Toma-> nopcode: you only need savedefault
[02:33] <nopcode> Toma-: i need savedefault 0
[02:33] <silverpower> ...stupid misplaced enter key...
[02:34] <phos> any idea why/
[02:34] <Toma-> nopcode: what are you doing?
[02:34] <nopcode> Toma-: i want entry 1 to set entry 0 as default
[02:34] <virogenesis> silverpower, gstreamer will be good in the future so its got bugs
[02:34] <nopcode> Toma-: to have entry 1 only boot once
[02:34] <amias> hi all
[02:34] <Toma-> oic
[02:35] <silverpower> virogenesis, that's not the problem, the problem is that Audacious has the plugins I actually use. GStreamer does not.
[02:35] <HeathenDan> exs_, Tools > Options > Interface > Display > Use Closeable Tabs
[02:35] <Direc> Oh, private msgs are blocked...
[02:35] <SillyZ> heres an intresting one, during the 6.06.1 install, ive found you have to click on the 'forward' or other button more than once to get it to go.... bug issue?
[02:35] <silverpower> So by extension, neither does BMPx.
[02:35] <Fenster> hey guys.. anyone know of a "find" program to help me find stuff in my file system
[02:35] <Direc> Toma-<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:35] <Toma-> Direc: ok, brb
[02:35] <phos> so no idea how to fix synaptic? i take it an update went bad?
[02:35] <amias> anyone had a 'NVIDIA(0): Failed to determine graphics capabilities' error ?  am using dapper with a nvidia Geforce 488 Go
[02:35] <Fenster> some sort of front end
[02:36] <amias> Fenster, find or beagle
[02:36] <zim_> am i missing something why am I the only person who thinks iFolders rock ???
[02:36] <Fenster> thx amias
[02:36] <HeathenDan> beagle won't index my mp3 folder =\
[02:36] <amias> Fenster, or Applications -> Accessories -> Search
[02:37] <Fenster> amias, .. I dont have that for some reason
[02:37] <nalou> sk
[02:37] <nalou> Dou you speak french?
[02:37] <DBO> !fr
[02:37] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:37] <exs_> void^:  thanks a lot.
[02:37] <linux_user400354> sftp is ftp with ssh right?
[02:38] <Toma-> Direc: have you got enough ports open?
[02:38] <mirzapirza> when i use sudo while running as a live cd - what password will it want?
[02:38] <thoreauputic> linux_user400354: more or less
[02:38] <Toma-> it just connected
[02:38] <amias> Linuturk,  yes probably
[02:38] <virogenesis> fair enough good reason but gstreamer is the future :)
[02:38] <DBO> mirzapirza, none, blank
[02:38] <Direc> Toma-: I have a direct connection
[02:38] <SillyZ> how 'stable' is the drive resizing in ubuntu, ive noticed its partitioning tool has this capability any thoughts or opinions bout its capability?
[02:38] <thoreauputic> mirzapirza: none as far as I remember
[02:38] <amias> SillyZ, its stable but you should do a backup first anyway
[02:39] <Toma-> Direc: rightio. can you see my room/hear anything?
[02:39] <SillyZ> have a 100gb drive, 20gb win and the rest for applications and storage, both running ntfs ....
[02:39] <Direc> Toma-: I can hear you, and I see a bouncing Ekiga logo
[02:39] <Fenster> is amarok only for kde?
[02:39] <SillyZ> would like to drop a swap and a root partition b/t the 20 and the rest of the drive
[02:39] <Toma-> hmmm ok. i cant hear you. and i et the ekiga icon too
[02:39] <DanaG> Is there a good Amarok-equivalent for Gnome?
[02:39] <thoreauputic> Fenster: no, works fine in gnome
[02:39] <Toma-> brb
[02:39] <Fenster> ok
[02:39] <virogenesis> yes but can run it in gnome but why bother when bmpx exists
[02:40] <DanaG> Amarok is essentially the ONLY qt.KDE aoo I use.
[02:40] <thoreauputic> Fenster: just looks different ( qt not gtk2)
[02:40] <Fenster> virogenesis, I want a foobar clone
[02:40] <DanaG> Does BMPx have the media library (folder views, not by tags)?
[02:40] <zim_> please some one tell me what I am missing about iFolders that i am the only on who can wait to see a .deb
[02:40] <virogenesis> ahhh
[02:40] <HeathenDan> i won't let linux to write/touch ntfs partitions
[02:40] <Fenster> HeathenDan, Im thinking about converting my ntfs drives... is that a daunting task?
[02:40] <waspius> anyone know an easy firewall to use??or basically an interface for iptables?
[02:40] <anabain> is it possible to use an usb stick to make it a bootable DOS system from ubuntu64? I want to update my motherboard BIOS...
[02:41] <thoreauputic> waspius: firestarter is easy
[02:41] <zim_> waspius look at firestarter
[02:41] <ynef> waspius: I've heard good things about firestarter
[02:41] <ynef> heh :)
[02:41] <zim_> 3 good things about it
[02:41] <thoreauputic> well looks like we have a winner...
[02:41] <zim_> :)
[02:41] <HeathenDan> convert to what? ext2/3? fat?
[02:41] <Fenster> ext3 I guess
[02:41] <waspius> ok thanx allot
[02:41] <DanaG> What is firestarteer?
[02:41] <DanaG> oh, firewall.
[02:41] <Fenster> I am using a ntfs driver now.. and people say it isnt too safe
[02:41] <flaca> God morning evrybody!! Oh my god it rains !
[02:41] <zim_> conf tool for iptables
[02:42] <zim_> it is not a firewall it just makes the conf easy
[02:42] <HeathenDan> is there existing data in those ntfs? if so, back them up. you may have to destroy and reconstruct the partition
[02:42] <virogenesis> nah don't think it does DanaG bmpx uses tags but what it does do is tag correctly so even using tags is alright
[02:42] <linux_user400354> waspius: if you are using gnome, you can use firestarter
[02:42] <nopcode> omg i was thinking its called "breezy beaver" all the time and wondered how many americans would be upset by that :D
[02:42] <nopcode> badger, ok ;P
[02:43] <HeathenDan> the non-win ones
[02:43] <waspius> linux_user400354: i am using kde
[02:43] <zim_> that will be 4 good things and counting
[02:43] <linux_user400354> waspius: there are many good scripts to setup iptables for you
[02:43] <zim_> is there somthing in kcontrol
[02:43] <DanaG> The issue is, all of my media is on NTFS, and not all of it is entirely correctly tagged.
[02:43] <ynef> waspius: and, really, iptables itself isn't too hard either :)
[02:43] <virogenesis> Fenster, http://futurepast.free.fr/aeon1.jpg
[02:43] <zim_> look in "kdesu kcontrol"
[02:44] <virogenesis> have a look at that
[02:44] <Fenster> ya that looks pretty good
[02:44] <zim_> anyway back to my Q
[02:44] <waspius> ynef: how do i setup iptables
[02:44] <waspius> ?
[02:44] <zim_> why am i the only one shouting about iFolders
[02:44] <ynef> waspius: there are good docs at netfilter.org
[02:45] <zim_> am i missing somthing
[02:45] <nopcode> because mac is teh gay?  :D
[02:45] <ShaggyDog> any one been able to mount a sony vaio built-in memory stick (dapper)?
[02:46] <Direc> Toma-: :D OK, thanks for the test! Works easy enough for even my mom!
[02:46] <zim_> ShaggyDog my friend has tried for days no luck
[02:47] <Toma-> yeh, i set mine up for my mum to see relatives in england
[02:47] <ShaggyDog> thanks, keep trying!
[02:48] <oblib> Question: I submitted a bug, and someone reported the "fix commited." What does that mean, and when will gamecon work in Dapper? See https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/55355
[02:48] <y3it221_klce> whats PNPmode
[02:48] <nopcode> how do i reinstall grub under ubuntu?
[02:49] <nopcode> or will that be done automatically when a dist-upgrade updates grub?
[02:49] <exs_> I'm using standard VESA driver and it's OK, but it's only 1024x768. I'm using laptop so it's not a problem but how do I set it to 1280?.. With mepis I went into a text file.
[02:51] <fyrestrtr> what kind of video card do you have?
[02:51] <Luck> I have Totem installed with win32 codecs thanks easyubuntu. I can play wma files but it dosen't want to play asf files. Does totem support them?
[02:51] <senakay> has anyone else had troubles getting themes to be automatically picked up by drupal on dapper?
[02:51] <Luck> How play asf files without mplayer?
[02:52] <stray_77> luck, as far as i know you can play anything but windows drm files
[02:52] <stray_77> digital rights management
[02:52] <rixth> DOes anyone know the maximum length of a SATA cable?
[02:52] <Fenster> 3 yards
[02:52] <Luck> I have realplayer too. It doesnt support too.
[02:52] <amias> rixth, google does
[02:52] <exs_> How do I edit a file with text editor under root privlages?
[02:53] <senakay> couldn't find any reference in the forums, and /usr/share/doc/drupal/README.Debian.gz was no help :-)
[02:53] <amias> exs_, sudo nano /path/to/file
[02:53] <stray_77> SATA cables are 7 wire 7 pin versus the 80 wire 40 pin parallel ribbons. 1 meter (39inch) max length cables are easy to route in todays tight tower confines.
[02:53] <senakay> exs_: sudo vi file
[02:53] <exs_> thanks man
[02:53] <Luck> stray_77: What does "drm" mean?
[02:53] <stray_77> SATA cables are 7 wire 7 pin versus the 80 wire 40 pin parallel ribbons. 1 meter (39inch) max length cables are easy to route in todays tight tower confines.
[02:53] <stray_77> digital rights management
[02:54] <amias> senakay, vi is cool but for someone who doesn't know sudo nano is probably a better bet
[02:54] <Luck> exs: gksudo gedit file
[02:54] <Fenster> doh.. there is no media player classic for linux
[02:54] <rixth> Erg. Only 1 meter.
[02:54] <virogenesis> digital restriction manaagement
[02:55] <senakay> cmon, someone has to have setup drupal on ubuntu :-)
[02:55] <oblib> Question: I submitted a bug, and someone reported the "fix commited." What does that mean, and when will gamecon work in Dapper? See https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/55355
[02:55] <exs_> amias: senakay, I've tried that and sadly it opens in the Terminal. You see, I need to open the file with text editor so I can quickly 'find and replace'
[02:55] <oblib> exs_: sudo gedit file &
[02:55] <exs_> what's the & mean?
[02:56] <oblib> open it without tying up the terminal
[02:56] <oblib> spawn the process
[02:56] <senakay> 'background'
[02:56] <exs_> oblib:  nevermind, it worked :) thanks!
[02:56] <Fenster> holy shiat
[02:57] <Fenster> amarok is awesome
[02:57] <ompaul> oblib, ask in #ubuntu_bugs for the full process it may make it into the next . release (6.06.2)
[02:57] <scud> my synaptic isnt working
[02:57] <scud> http://pastebin.ca/138692
[02:57] <ompaul> scud, you compiz user you
[02:57] <phos> scud, you running compiz?
[02:57] <oblib> ompaul: no one is there
[02:57] <scud> yes
[02:57] <DBO> scud, yep i know your issue
[02:57] <ompaul> oblib, I am but I am not reading it :)
[02:57] <scud> but its not running at the moment
[02:57] <phos> yeah, it breaks anyway
[02:57] <DBO> scud, we have lots of work to do to fix this
[02:57] <scud> gotcha
[02:58] <DBO> scud, meet me in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:58] <DBO> we will handle it there
[02:58] <scud> ok
[02:58] <silverpower> aaaaaugh!  No matter what I do, I cannot tell it to ignore the accursed dependency. pygame is dependent on a library, but the name of the lib has changed recently. The ABI is the same, so it'd work if I could get the accursed thing to install.
[02:58] <ompaul> DBO, wikise it? cos it looks like lots of folks are about to get that as an issue
[02:58] <DBO> ompaul, unless you can figure out how to get aptitude to give uniform results to everyone...
[02:59] <DanaG> drupal?
[02:59] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[02:59] <oblib> ompaul: so who am I supposed to ask?
[02:59] <senakay> danag: yep
[02:59] <senakay> drupal?
[02:59] <Fenster> anyone recommend a good gui based ftp app for gnome
[02:59] <mrkinder> Hi all. I've just reinstalled ubuntu 32 bit after realising 64 bit wasn't really as much fun as it sounded, but I have to reinstall my ati drivers and I don't have the tutorial page that someone helpfully gave me bookmarked anymore. Anyone know what I mean?
[02:59] <DBO> ompaul, btw, if you see people give the symlink fix in here for this issue, slap them upside the head, ok?
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> !ati
[02:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:00] <mrkinder> ah, thanks muchly
[03:00] <exs_> I'm using text editor in Terminal to edit my xorg.conf file, but I have no idea how to save it. When I look down I see "WriteOut" which I preusme is the correct option, but I don't understand how to use that command. It displays; ^O
[03:00] <ompaul> oblib, you ask and then you wait if someone picks up on it great, this is the way of irc. however have you got  dapper-updates enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[03:00] <Luck> exs:ZZ
[03:00] <Luck> exs_:qw
[03:00] <fyrestrtr> exs_: ^ means ctrl, so ^O mean ctrl+O
[03:01] <oblib> yeah, but no one shows up as being in the room. Well one guy just showed up
[03:01] <fyrestrtr> Luck: he's on pico :P
[03:01] <exs_> fyrestrtr:  ohh thanks
[03:01] <senakay> danag: the dapper package is great, and there are two themes available for dapper, but usually you just drop additional downloaded drupal themes into (drupal home)/themes. I've tried that, /etc/drupal/themes and /usr/local/share/drupal/themes (as per README.Debian.gz) and it still wont work
[03:01] <Luck> soryy
[03:01] <senakay> two pre-packaged themes i mean
[03:01] <senakay> no errors in apache logs, nada.
[03:03] <oblib> ompaul: no I don't have dapper-updates enabled
[03:04] <virogenesis> because they are scsi :)
[03:04] <ompaul> oblib, then you won't get it if it is fixed
[03:04] <ompaul> in dapper
[03:04] <virogenesis> scsi devices have always been pricey
[03:04] <ompaul> oblib, the other updates are purely security
[03:04] <oblib> ompaul: what do I add?
[03:04] <voidy> greetings
[03:05] <voidy> i have just installed ubuntu from a hoary dvd i got ages ago..
[03:05] <voidy> it's because my gentoo has had a slight disaster
[03:05] <voidy> i'm wondering if anying can help me get my kernel compiling
[03:05] <rixth> virogenesis, but what is really different apart from the interface? They are more or less the same internally
[03:05] <ompaul> oblib, paste your sources.list in pastebin paste.ubuntu-nl.org and I'll fix it for you - I will be missing for 10 minutes
[03:05] <voidy> it's complaining about missing definitions from the kernel-headers, but i swear the headers are installed..
[03:06] <rixth> Though some rotate at 10k.
[03:06] <voidy> i also need to know how i can do an apt-get upgrade to the latest versions... at the moment i seem to be limited to hoary stuff.
[03:06] <Noia> Any way to get audio working on Flash properly?
[03:06] <oblib> ompaul: nm, it's here: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted
[03:07] <silverpower> rixth, they're just higher-grade.
[03:07] <Noia> at the moment its only worked once, and that was _during_ a software upgrade =\
[03:07] <ompaul> oblib, remove the # from infront of it
[03:07] <oblib> ompaul: there is no #
[03:07] <voidy> this is my first day of ubuntu.. it's not ideal, but i'm happy to use it if i can get it working to the spec i need..
[03:08] <silverpower> Though I do believe that even with the higher-grade components and the revised controller boards, they're still overcharging.
[03:08] <FirstStrike> void^: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:08] <voidy> the distro isn't so important to me... just getting kernel 2.6.14+ on there is, and all the python/gnome dev libraries i need
[03:08] <voidy> FirstStrike: cool, tanks
[03:09] <FirstStrike> voidy: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:09] <binks_> hi peeps has anyone had any problems with dvdauthor not making good dvd files e the menu i think is broken
[03:09] <BlueEagle> firststrike: wouldn't he need to update his sources.list before running dist-upgrade?
[03:09] <Warbo> I am REALLY REALLY having problems with GRUB. It refuses to install onto a USB drive
[03:09] <FirstStrike> yes, you're right.
[03:10] <FirstStrike> sudo apt-get update
[03:10] <voidy> FirstStrike: that's still all hoary stuff i'm afraid..  what is the latest version?  i just need to add it to apt-sources yes?
[03:10] <FirstStrike> dapper
[03:10] <voidy> righto
[03:10] <Jeeves__> Hello, very new to linux and having some problems installing apache, can anyone help?
[03:11] <BlueEagle> voidy: Should your upgrade fail then you migth want to get the latest install cd 6.06.1 (dapper drake).
[03:11] <silverpower> voidy, do be careful. To get to Dapper, you've got to upgrade to Badger, then upgrade to Dapper. And expect much wailing and gnashing of teeth, if it fails it's going to fail spectacularly in ways that'll make reach for your Gentoo install media.
[03:11] <silverpower> *make you
[03:11] <BlueEagle> voidy: Thing is that you've got breezy between hoary and dapper. Not sure how upgrading hoary->dapper would work. :)
[03:11] <nopcode> silverpower: i've reached for debootstrap
[03:12] <voidy> hehe... i'm on dialup :)  this is going to be painful whatever i do :)
[03:12] <silverpower> !
[03:12] <nopcode> silverpower: got a remote server... i cant see what wrong.
[03:12] <FirstStrike> good luck :>
[03:12] <nopcode> that's really annoying
[03:12] <nopcode> so i rather go to debian
[03:12] <silverpower> Ouch.
[03:12] <Jeeves__> it's ok seams to have sorted itself!
[03:12] <BlueEagle> voidy: If you've got a friend with *dsl then you might want to go there and d/l the latest install cd. :)
[03:12] <nopcode> we're i'm not being force to obey to releases ;P
[03:12] <voidy> maybe i should be content with not being able to develop anything all weekend and then get an iso at work on monday..
[03:13] <Warbo> nopcode: Since there aren't any for ages
[03:13] <silverpower> nopcode, well, voidy is/was a Gentoo user, so...
[03:13] <scud> DBO: thanks man, that worked. you rock
[03:13] <nopcode> Warbo: there's dist-upgrade ;P
[03:13] <voidy> i guess i need to work on making my code windoze compatible too ;)
[03:13] <scud> DBO: should make a wikipage on that
[03:14] <nopcode> voidy: what code?
[03:14] <DBO> scud, i should, but it doesnt work the same for everyone
[03:14] <Warbo> Anybody? GRUB?
[03:14] <y3it221_klce> my Ubuntu installation is slow
[03:14] <voidy> it's a bit like zonealarm.  with netstat too
[03:14] <firepol> hi, can i upgrade an outdated version of breezy directly to dapper? or should i first apt-get upgrade , then modify the sources.list to dappet and then apt-get upgrade again?
[03:14] <bakytn> should i download Kubuntu 6.06.1 or i can just update my 6.06 ?
[03:14] <scud> DBO: i figured :(
[03:14] <nopcode> voidy: personal firewalls are nonsene
[03:14] <nopcode> nonsense
[03:14] <BlueEagle> warbo: are you on the installation cd or have you booted linux?
[03:14] <fyrestrtr> !upgrade > firepol
[03:15] <auxi> nopcode, why do you say that ?
[03:15] <voidy> it has a distributed backend/gui, i'm making it for monitoring dedicated servers at work
[03:15] <BlueEagle> warbo: Is the USB drive correctly detected?
[03:15] <Warbo> BlueEagle: On the live CD, with an installation chrooted
[03:15] <BlueEagle> warbo: How many harddisks have you got on your system?
[03:15] <voidy> I'm not going to comment on that, nop
[03:15] <Warbo> installation is on the USB drive, and was done using debootstrap
[03:15] <Warbo> 1
[03:16] <Warbo> device.map says hd0 is hda and hd1 is sda
[03:16] <BlueEagle> warbo: when you run sudo grub and on the grub platform type 'root (hd' and then hit tab do you see your usb drive listed?
[03:16] <ompaul> oblib, so it is enabled
[03:16] <oblib> ompaul: looks like
[03:16] <silverpower> nopcode, personal firewalls are useful for controlling what your Windows install is and is not allowed to do. I'd rather have a hardware-based firewall, though.
[03:16] <nopcode> ehrm
[03:17] <nopcode> if you dont want anything to listen on a port DONT START THAT SERVICE
[03:17] <nopcode> ...
[03:17] <nopcode> i thought that was simple enough
[03:17] <Warbo> BlueEagle: Expect some time-delay since I am acting as proxy for someone
[03:17] <nopcode> no, we need something at ip-level!
[03:17] <voidy> nopcode: windows doesn't need another personal firewall, however, the gui part is going to work on windows for monitoring dedicated linux servers
[03:17] <nopcode> voidy: yeah i was figuring you'd be doing it for linux
[03:17] <nopcode> but still that personal firewall stuff is bullshit
[03:18] <BlueEagle> nopcode: Please concider that not all people know what a service is and may of them think it's a good idea to click "yes" on anything that looks remotely like a dialog box.
[03:18] <Breg> anyone know how to update the bios of a dell laptop?
[03:18] <voidy> nopcode: that sounds quite naive.  there are other 3500 servers at work, and to configure the ciscos for all theie individual needs would be ridiculous
[03:18] <nopcode> just bind bind a service to the interface if you want to stop people from using it!
[03:18] <voidy> s/other/over/
[03:18] <BlueEagle> warbo: Why isn't that person here him/herself?
[03:18] <Thor> nopcode, what about restricting certain services to certain subnets, woulden't you need a firewall then ?
[03:18] <nopcode> dont bind even
[03:18] <nopcode> Thor: subnets - yeah sure
[03:19] <nopcode> Thor: i was talking about "personal" firewalls for workstations directly connected to the 'net
[03:19] <firepol> thank you fyrestrtr
[03:19] <nopcode> there firewalling makes no sense
[03:19] <Thor> nopcode, Oh, right
[03:19] <Thor> nopcode, my bad
[03:19] <dahump> can anyone help a kubuntu newbie?
[03:20] <voidy> the only zonealarm thing that it relates to is flashing up dialogs when a new connection is attempted to the box. it then allows you to yes or no it, as well as setting up rules pertaining to the connection
[03:20] <Blissex> dahump: no, it is hopeless :-). Unless they ask specific questions :-).
[03:21] <BlueEagle> nopcode: I reserve my right to disagree because a personal firewall that also blocks outbound connections can help limit the functionality of trojan horses that attempts to phone home on ports that are usually not in use and they can restrict a bot herders ability to connect to your system to control such a trojan horse.
[03:21] <dahump> hmmmm, I have so many it's hard to know where to begin.....
[03:21] <abhinay> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20981 Help please !
[03:21] <dahump> Does anyone know why my networked kubuntu box gets much slower connection to internet than my Windows machine?
[03:21] <nopcode> BlueEagle: the trojan horse shouldn't even be on your box
[03:22] <nopcode> BlueEagle: if it is, your security is broken anyways
[03:22] <Warbo> BlueEagle: Good question. Anyway, "root (hd"<tab> just gives prompt with "root (hd" on it, no results
[03:22] <PurpleTet> http://www.thenewsh.com/~newsham/x/art/im_getting_sued.gif
[03:22] <Breg> nobody ever patched the bios of a dell laptop?
[03:22] <voidy> i also have provision in the code for blocking things depending on the process and user that initiated them, as well as detecting DoS and mangling packets
[03:22] <BlueEagle> warbo: chrooted you say? Did you remember to bind-mount /proc to your chrooted system?
[03:23] <Warbo> BlueEagle: Yes, and /dev
[03:23] <voidy> that's not in the stable code though
[03:23] <Warbo> well, first time we tried I bound /proc, this time /proc is mounted directly in there
[03:23] <rixth> PurpleTet, ...huh hahaha
[03:23] <mrkinder> !ati
[03:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:23] <mrkinder> !radeon
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radeon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <rixth> PurpleTet, counter sue for bandwidth costs
[03:23] <brk3> hi, would anyone be kind enough to give their opinion on wheter these types of devices would be supported by linux?: http://search.ebay.ie/usb-sound-adapter_W0QQfromZR40
[03:24] <dahump> Hmmm. could it possibly be my linux NIC driver?
[03:24] <silverpower> BlueEagle, exactly. On a Windows machine, there's no real way to know *what* the current state of a typical workstation is security-wise. If you detect a trojan that way, you can reach for the cable, unplug and nuke the install.
[03:24] <rixth> !msgthebot > mrkinder
[03:24] <brk3> hi, would anyone be kind enough to give their opinion on wheter these types of devices would be supported by linux?: http://search.ebay.ie/usb-sound-adapter_W0QQfromZR40
[03:24] <dahump> Does anyone know why my networked kubuntu box gets much slower connection to internet than my Windows machine?
[03:24] <mrkinder> None of this is the same as last time, before I could just click a few things in the synaptic manager and get ati acceleration, these howtos are way more complicated than that
[03:24] <BlueEagle> warbo: are you sure grub is started with root privileges? (ie. sudo grub)
[03:24] <voidy> brk3: would you be kind enough to wait for at least a minute or two for an answer?
[03:25] <BlueEagle> warbo: If it's not started with root privileges it will not cause an error but it will not list any discs with root (hd{TAB}
[03:25] <dahump> if that was for me, of course I will. Sorry
[03:25] <Warbo> BlueEagle: Yes. The chroot logs in as root by default anyway, but I've tried sudo and no sudo
[03:25] <mrkinder> Does anyone know what I mean? I just want to get the radeon working without manually configuring drivers and breaking things and what not
[03:25] <voidy> ah.. i've just remembered an oldish, and functional gentoo install that i have in a folder on my old root
[03:25] <Warbo> mrkinder: You mean DRI driver "radeon"
[03:25] <Warbo> ?
[03:25] <voidy> i'm afraid my ubuntu partition is a marked man...
[03:26] <BlueEagle> warbo: what does fdisk -l tell you about the disks? Can it find them? (Still in the chroot environment)
[03:26] <voidy> well, it was nice joining the ubuntu crowd for a couple of hours..
[03:26] <voidy> must get back to my coding somehow..
[03:26] <mrkinder> possibly, but I'd have to know what you meant by that. If DRI means "click there, click there, reboot" then yes?
[03:26] <silverpower> voidy, ahahah. :)
[03:26] <voidy> thanks for the help guys .. who knows. i might get an ubuntu disc one of these days :)
[03:26] <voidy> sudo reboot
[03:27] <brk3> voidy: sorry, thought i only asked once? just asked in a few channels to increase my chance of finding someone who know the answer
[03:27] <BlueEagle> voidy: You can have them shipped to you for free
[03:27] <voidy> oops.. swear i pressed all-left then hehe
[03:27] <Killeroid> PurpleTet: lol, thats really hilarious.What a mor*n. I can beleive he actually threatened to sue you
[03:27] <Killeroid> *can't
[03:28] <voidy> BlueEagle: good plan, my friend took them up on the offer quite a while ago now too
[03:28] <mrkinder> Any ideas Warbo?
[03:28] <BlueEagle> warbo: if (since) it cannot find them either you might be missing device nodes. If they are scsi or sata disks I'd not bind-mount /dev but rather copy over /dev/sd* to your chrooted dev/
[03:29] <silverpower> voidy, takes a few weeks, though.
[03:29] <Warbo> fdisk -l works fine
[03:29] <BlueEagle> voidy: It took three weeks to get them from Holland to Norway. :)
[03:29] <BlueEagle> warbo: o'rly?
[03:29] <Warbo> and he doesn't have mIRC installed, so he is not in here
[03:29] <BlueEagle> warbo: irssi should work from the chroot environment
[03:30] <firepol> is it possible to install kububntu.desktop without installing all the dependencies? i want to upgrade from breezy to dapper. but if i upgrade my actual breezy it will be upgraded again, resulting in 2 downloads instead of one
[03:30] <Warbo> GAIM should work from LiveCD environment
[03:30] <waspius> i opened kdiskfree and for some reason i have 3 more dev than what i should..udev,varlock,varrun 220.1mb each..anyone know what they are?
[03:30] <voidy> actually. i'll put it on to my 80g sata
[03:30] <bbrazil> waspius: they're just RAM disks
[03:30] <sleepingcreep> hi all
[03:30] <BlueEagle> warbo: and make sure he types 'root (hd' and then press TAB not 'root(hd' and then press tab. And make sure he doesn't actually type the quotes.
[03:31] <Warbo> yes, I am pretty sure he did
[03:31] <snoops> PurpleTet indeed, that is hilarious.. have you replied?
[03:31] <sleepingcreep> i'v a little problem with flash and firefox... i'v no sound from flash animations
[03:31] <voidy> the only thing debian-like that i'm not fond of is separating runtime and dev libraries...
[03:31] <Warbo> device.map gives hd0 and hd1, but using them as root says filesystem type unknown
[03:31] <voidy> i must prefer having it the way that it'd be if you installed everything from source..
[03:31] <PurpleTet> its not me:P someone else hehehe\
[03:31] <voidy> much*
[03:31] <BlueEagle> warbo: omg
[03:31] <voidy> other than that, debian is cool..
[03:32] <dahump> anyone use amarok in here? It shows that I am receiving a radio stream, but there is no sound. THe sound system works fine. Is there a plugin or something that I need?
[03:32] <BlueEagle> warbo: he shouldn't try to use them as the root system
[03:32] <PurpleTet> http://www.thenewsh.com/~newsham/x/art/barbie/
[03:32] <sleepingcreep> there is someone that can help me?
[03:32] <voidy> much better than rpm based distros
[03:32] <BlueEagle> warbo: All I need to know is how many hd's grub detects.
[03:32] <BlueEagle> warbo: Now how many harddisks has this man got? (Not counting the usb drive ofcourse)
[03:32] <Flamekebab> hmm
[03:32] <Flamekebab> synaptic is refusing to open
[03:32] <Warbo> 1 internal HD, 1 USB stick
[03:32] <Flamekebab> it's saying synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:32] <waspius> bbrazil: which means?
[03:33] <BlueEagle> warbo: ok. Very good.
[03:33] <Flamekebab> any suggestions?
[03:33] <BlueEagle> warbo: which partition is his root partition?
[03:33] <voidy> Flamekebab: try locate libvte.so.  and see what you've got already
[03:33] <Warbo> sda1
[03:33] <voidy> you might just be able to use a symbolic link to a later version of the lib
[03:33] <BlueEagle> warbo: they have him type: root (hd0,0)
[03:33] <PurpleTet> http://www.thenewsh.com/~newsham/x/art/girlsevil.gif
[03:33] <BlueEagle> warbo: and then have him type setup (hd1)
[03:34] <BlueEagle> warbo: that should set up his usb device to boot linux from /dev/sda1
[03:34] <Flamekebab> voidy - how do I find it? (a silly question, but an honest one!)
[03:34] <voidy> Flamekebab: type this
[03:34] <voidy> locate libvte.so.
[03:34] <voidy> or probably just
[03:34] <Flamekebab> okays
[03:35] <Flamekebab> done that
[03:35] <voidy> ls /usr/lib/libvtes.so.  <press tab a couple of times>
[03:35] <Flamekebab> I've got a location
[03:35] <Flamekebab> locate libvte.so.
[03:35] <voidy> what version is the one with the longest version number
[03:35] <Flamekebab> /usr/lib/libvte.so.9.1.2
[03:35] <Flamekebab> /usr/lib/libvte.so.9
[03:35] <Flamekebab> I'd assume the first would be the newest
[03:35] <voidy> well, try
[03:36] <voidy> ln -s /usr/lib/libvte.so.9.1.2 /usr/lib/libvte.so.4
[03:36] <voidy> if it doesn't work remove the link
[03:36] <voidy> it's worth a go though for a quick dirty fix
[03:36] <Flamekebab> what will that command do?
[03:36] <voidy> it creates a symbolic link to the 9.1.2 file
[03:36] <Raskall> hmm.. in the dapper installer, will resizing an ntfs partition to make room take long time without any obvious disk activity?
[03:36] <Flamekebab> okays, voidy, thank you, I'll give it a go
[03:37] <Flamekebab> I like to ask questions so I'll learn something
[03:37] <Flamekebab> just so you know, I'm not questioning whether it's the right thing to do
[03:37] <voidy> Flamekebab: well, doing that could be expected..
[03:37] <Flamekebab> voidy, woo! It worked
[03:37] <Flamekebab> thanks!
[03:37] <voidy> cool :)
[03:37] <Flamekebab> just so I know, how did that fix it?
[03:38] <mrDaniel> is there a way to approve a folder in ubuntu and than acces under windows?
[03:38] <nathansnook> is it better to run i686 kernel or stock that comes install with base unbuntu i386
[03:38] <BlueEagle> flamekebab: it told any applications that looks for libvte.so.4 to use libvte.9.1.2 instead
[03:38] <mrDaniel> i mean a approve-process like it exists under windows
[03:38] <voidy> the program was looking for libvte.so.4, but it didn't exist, so you just create a link to the .so.9 version, and it used that instead...
[03:38] <rixxon> can i prevent memory leaks, for example restrict processes to X megabytes of memory?
[03:38] <Flamekebab> voidy, excellent, and thank you too BlueEagle
[03:38] <DanaG> SATA is unshielded!
[03:38] <Flamekebab> I live and learn!
[03:39] <voidy> in unix you learn more than you live haha
[03:39] <DanaG> Closest thing to mplayerc is VLC.
[03:39] <Liohs> ok im trying to install rtorrnet and its saying im missing the openssl crypto libs
[03:39] <BlueEagle> flamekebab: It did almost the same thing as copying the file and renaming it to libvte.so.4 but it doesn't waste that much disk space afaik.
[03:39] <Flamekebab> voidy, life without learning wouldn't be fun!
[03:39] <voidy> get openssl-dev or something like that?
[03:39] <voidy> i don't know, i haven't got a clue about umbongo :)
[03:39] <voidy> ubuntu i mean ;)
[03:39] <Liohs> i just spent an hour compileing openssl
[03:39] <Liohs> >.>
[03:39] <Liohs> ok
[03:39] <DanaG> What IS drupal>
[03:40] <DanaG> ?
[03:40] <Flamekebab> now to see about getting things up and running on my other laptop!
[03:40] <BlueEagle> warbo: Did that work at all?
[03:40] <Flamekebab> oh and delightful university paperwork..
[03:40] <Liohs> checking for OPENSSL... configure: error: Could not find openssl's crypto library
[03:40] <Liohs> configure: line 15127: exit: try: numeric argument required
[03:40] <oblib> what is the "usplash_fifo" file in my root directory? Can I delete it? I don't like not being able to tab-complete /usr
[03:40] <Liohs> and theres no open ssl dev on the open ssl site
[03:40] <oblib> It wasn't there in Breezy
[03:40] <voidy> Liohs: when you compiled openssl, did you use ./configure targettype, or just ./config  ?
[03:40] <Liohs> both
[03:41] <voidy> which one is installed?
[03:41] <saint_551> Eh, is anyone here having trouble updating?
[03:41] <Liohs> ./config
[03:41] <sladen> oblib: yes, you can delete it.  There's a bug report open
[03:41] <voidy> is it installed in /usr/local/ or /usr ?
[03:41] <Liohs> usr/local/openssl
[03:41] <oblib> sladen: meaning that its presence is a bug?
[03:41] <corndog_> I'm having a problem with amaroK, when I fill a playlist or try to play a song it just skips over the song and says playlist finished. Is amarok KDE only?
[03:42] <voidy> Liohs: you probably have to provide the location of it in the ./configure that you're doing now
[03:42] <voidy> try ./configure --help
[03:42] <Liohs> ok
[03:42] <BlueEagle> oblib: ls -l /usplash_fifo
[03:43] <BlueEagle> oblib: ie. what type of file is it?
[03:43] <_jvbryne> Tearing my hair out: Setup Twinview and the virtual resolution is now 2560x1024. Really nice, except gnome ofc centers all dialogs/windows - thus they are split over the edge between the monitors. Are there any way to constrain gnome to one monitor?
[03:43] <adminx> Just checked updating and one repo was not found.
[03:43] <Liohs> voidy: not sure how to do that
[03:43] <oblib> BlueEagle: prw-r-----
[03:43] <saint_551> Stupid XGL shift-backspace. :/
[03:43] <voidy> _jvbryne:  you need to enable xinerama
[03:43] <Liohs> looking at the help now
[03:43] <Liohs> its not too helpfull
[03:43] <saint_551> So, is anyone else having trouble updating?
[03:43] <voidy> have you read the readmes?
[03:43] <BlueEagle> oblib: have you got an usplash_fifo in your /dev directory?
[03:43] <Liohs> nm
[03:43] <oblib> BlueEagle: what does the p mean?
[03:43] <Liohs> think i found it
[03:44] <Liohs> XD
[03:44] <Liohs> --with-openssl=PATH
[03:44] <Liohs> so it would do
[03:44] <voidy> sounds about right :)
[03:44] <oblib> BlueEagle: no I don't have one in /dev
[03:44] <nearfar> I have source tarball for new release of a software (glade-3 for example). Now I want to build it. But, how do I install it in such a way that it is installed as a .deb so Ubuntu won't replace it with lesser version from its repository?
[03:44] <Liohs> --with-openssl=/usr/local/openssl ?
[03:44] <nearfar> (apart from 'make install')
[03:44] <voidy> aye ye
[03:44] <saint_551> I click on the "Install Updates" button, but it only searches for more updates instead, as if I hit the "Check for Updates" button.
[03:44] <Liohs> ok
[03:44] <saint_551> Synaptic won't start
[03:45] <sladen> BlueEagle / oblib:  bug #45435
[03:45] <PurpleTet> ok, ive install teamspeak on linux with wine, but i cant seem to run it. ( reason why i hav teamspeak on wine is coz i wanna run a plugin that is only works on window )
[03:45] <BlueEagle> sladen: information on how to look up that bug will also be useful.
[03:46] <corndog_> Is amaroK KDE only? If so can anyone suggest another mp3 player that has similiar functionality?
[03:46] <Flamekebab> corndog_, amaroK will run just fine under Gnome
[03:46] <saint_551> amaroK can run on Gnome, but you need KDE libs
[03:46] <Flamekebab> and I'd assume XFCE too
[03:46] <HeathenDan> amarok can work in gnome, but you will dl a lot of dependencies
[03:46] <DanaG> You actually don't need very much of KDE for Amarok.
[03:46] <JhonnyB> hi
[03:46] <corndog_> Ok, I'll try to install those.. it just skips over my songs instead of playing.
[03:47] <JhonnyB> is blue eagle here
[03:47] <saint_551> If you're trying to stay strictly Gnome, there's rhythmbox
[03:47] <DanaG> baah, no folder views.
[03:47] <Flamekebab> JhonnyB, higher!
[03:47] <Flamekebab> yeah, he's around JhonnyB
[03:47] <JhonnyB> warbo
[03:47] <sladen> BlueEagle: https://launchpad.net/bugs/45435   normally there's an IRC bot that does it automatically, but it doesn't appear to be doing it today
[03:47] <BlueEagle> jhonnyb: blueeagle is written in one word if you want it to highlight in my IRC client.
[03:47] <BlueEagle> sladen: thanks.
[03:47] <saint_551> so... Anyone else having problems updating?
[03:48] <saint_551> Or am I the only one? ;/
[03:48] <JhonnyB> i was talkin to warbo on msn
[03:48] <JhonnyB> we tryn to install ubuntu on usb
[03:48] <tearfate> is it possible for me to connect to internet via bluetooth from windowxp to ubuntu (pc to pc not gprs)?
[03:48] <saint_551> wait...
[03:48] <saint_551> What is libvte?
[03:49] <mirzapirza> i have an old laptop with a netgear wifi pc card, what are the chances of that working under ubuntu?
[03:49] <Flamekebab> saint_551, I just had a problem with libvte
[03:50] <Flamekebab> and we fixed it
[03:50] <BlueEagle> oblib: ok, a workaround is to add a command to remove it at boot time. The file will most likely have root:root privileges so you can't remove it in .bashrc for your regular user.
[03:51] <BlueEagle> oblib: The file will be re-created at every boot so you can delete it at will.
[03:51] <DanaG> What's the PC card?
[03:51] <oblib> BlueEagle: so I will just add a command to bootmisc.sh
[03:51] <corndog_> Got it working, needed libxine-extracodecs. Thanks for the help guys.
[03:51] <saint_551> Flamekebab: So I just need to wait for the update for that, and upgrade through the console?
[03:51] <BlueEagle> oblib: hang on. Let me double check that.
[03:52] <BlueEagle> oblib: First try to rename it to .usplash_fifo
[03:52] <Flamekebab> saint_551, is synaptic not opening for you?
[03:52] <saint_551> Not at all
[03:52] <saint_551> Nor will system updates work
[03:52] <BlueEagle> oblib: if it's recreated as usplash_fifo on the next boot then you can add a command to delete it in bootmisc.
[03:52] <saint_551> apt-get still works
[03:52] <Flamekebab> okays, saint_551, if you try and launch synaptic from the console, what do you get?
[03:53] <saint_551> It can't find libvte
[03:53] <oblib> BlueEagle: will do. thanks for the help (and sladen)
[03:53] <Flamekebab> right-o
[03:53] <saint_551> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:53] <Flamekebab> I've a solution for that, thanks to voidy
[03:53] <BlueEagle> jhonnyb: If you want me to read what you write please prefix the lines with blueeagle:
[03:53] <katrine> how do i install an rpm package on an ubuntu system?
[03:53] <BlueEagle> jhonnyb: if you don't then the lines do not highlight in my IRC client and I will probably miss them.
[03:53] <Flamekebab> saint_551, type the following
[03:53] <Flamekebab> locate libvte.so
[03:53] <BlueEagle> jhonnyb: Now about installing grub to USB, did it work?
[03:54] <Flamekebab> and then tell me which files it lists
[03:54] <saint_551> I'm getting /usr/lib/libvte.so.9[.1.2| ]
[03:54] <Flamekebab> okays, excellent
[03:54] <Flamekebab> same as me
[03:55] <keithhhh> Where does gaim install too?  I want to change the default sounds ;)
[03:55] <Flamekebab> type the following:
[03:55] <Flamekebab> ln -s /usr/lib/libvte.so.9.1.2 /usr/lib/libvte.so.4
[03:55] <Thunderpants> katrine, use alien to convert the rpm into a deb
[03:55] <Healot> whereis gaim >> keithhhh
[03:55] <Flamekebab> (I'm not sure, but you might need to use sudo for that)
[03:55] <saint_551> I love you.
[03:55] <saint_551> Just kidding, of course. But thanks
[03:55] <Flamekebab> hehe
[03:55] <Flamekebab> s'okay
[03:55] <Flamekebab> I didn't make the solution!
[03:56] <Flamekebab> I merely passed it on
[03:56] <Flamekebab> voidy gave me it
[03:56] <Flamekebab> and it worked for me
[03:56] <katrine> Thunderpants: do i have do apt-get alien? and isn't this a really hard way to do it?
[03:56] <saint_551> voidy: thanks. :)
[03:56] <saint_551> I was thinking I was rooted :o
[03:56] <Flamekebab> hehe
[03:56] <Whitelighter> Anyone here had experience installing ubuntu onto an encrypted root partition?
[03:57] <Flamekebab> I'm currently trying to get dapper xubuntu up and running on a laptop without USB booting support and no cdrom drive!
[03:57] <Flamekebab> succeeding so far!
[03:57] <Thunderpants> yes apt-get katrine , other than that i dont know as i have never used it
[03:57] <katrine> Thunderpants: i haven't fixed my repositories you see.. where is this file located?
[03:57] <Thunderpants> katrine, one mo
[03:57] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Hello, I'm back
[03:58] <Thunderpants> katrine, not sure which repo its in
[03:58] <saint_551> Thanks for all the help
[03:58] <BlueEagle> jhonnyb: USB keydrive that can boot as USB-HDD device. Make sure you read the product specification, only some USB flash sticks support this feature. (or see this 4/05 review on Ars Technica http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/flash2005.ars . Only 3 of 10 reviewed sticks are bootable.)
[03:58] <BlueEagle> jhonnyb: so make sure your USB stick can be booted.
[03:58] <katrine> Thunderpants: kk, thanks
[03:59] <Thunderpants> yvw :)
[03:59] <Warbo> BlueEagle: He booted KNOPPIX from it apparently
[03:59] <^Lynx^> hello, i've got a question. i want to install new nvidia drivers which force me to go change to root. after i did that with sudo -i I cannot change or list the directories or files in the terminal
[04:00] <^Lynx^> -change
[04:00] <BlueEagle> warbo: Then have him follow the knoppix how-to but alter the menu.lst to reflect the one of ubuntu and copy over the ubuntu kernels. http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/USB_Based_FAQ
[04:00] <nox-Hand> Hey
[04:00] <nox-Hand> I have no sound in flash - isnt this a common bug?
[04:00] <JhonnyB> here now
[04:00] <^Lynx^> oh nevermind my question
[04:00] <adminx> Yes
[04:00] <Warbo> Can anyone help me diagnose a problem? I've been trying for ages. AIGLX is preferred.....
[04:01] <adminx> very commen
[04:01] <Warbo> nox-Hand: Yes, get onto Adobe about it
[04:01] <adminx> There is a fix on ubuntu forums
[04:01] <roda> Hi, I need a decent application which allows me to record my screen into a video file - any suggestions?
[04:01] <nox-Hand> Warbo, Right..so, I am gussing its an unsolvable bug, that some pepople get, so we shold send hate-mail to adobe?
[04:01] <mrDaniel> file access form ubuntu to windows is easy, but how I establishe file acces from windows to ubuntu?
[04:01] <Warbo> roda: pyvnc2swf (does MPEG), Istanbul, Gvidcap
[04:02] <roda> thx Warbo, i'll try
[04:02] <mrDaniel> to anyone know a HOWTO or Tutorial for this?
[04:02] <mrDaniel> or a workaround???
[04:02] <NotThoughtPolice> wtf is a ubuntu?
[04:03] <adminx> Ubuntu is a Linux Distro
[04:03] <erUSUL> !samba
[04:03] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:03] <BlueEagle> jhonnyb: I found another how-to but it's in german.
[04:03] <Thaur> NotThoughtPolice, haha, best question ever
[04:03] <Blissex> mrDaniel: http://FS-driver.org/ might help.
[04:03] <mrDaniel> ??? which channel is this???
[04:03] <NotThoughtPolice> i just got wasted and stumbled in here
[04:03] <NotThoughtPolice> i'm not sure why
[04:03] <nox-Hand> Is that a yes? Flash with no sound cannot be fixed?
[04:03] <adminx> Or do you mean the meaning of the word?
[04:03] <NotThoughtPolice> is it finnish or something weird like that?
[04:03] <Thaur> NotThoughtPolice, yes.
[04:04] <roda> Warbo do you know any good multimedia repositories for atp which offers me those applications?
[04:04] <roda> apt*
[04:04] <peace-keeper> any idea what's wrong if my soundcard mixes only in mono ?
[04:04] <adminx> I thnk it means Harmony or unity .
[04:04] <nox-Hand> :/
[04:05] <NotThoughtPolice> that's swell
[04:05] <Warbo> roda: Istanbul is in Ubuntu, other than that I would google. pyvnc2swf doesn't run in Dapper's pygame version, so I debootstrapped a Breezy install just to run it
[04:05] <snoops> hey is there a way to view all symbolic links and hardlinks on my system in one nice and easy command?
[04:05] <Warbo> JhonnyB: Ask someone about loadlin
[04:06] <Blissex> snoops: yes.
[04:06] <solus_>  hey everyone, anyone with a knowledge of 6.06 and monitor problems would be great to talk to at the moment, lol
[04:06] <snoops> sweet Blissex, what's the command?
[04:06] <Blissex> snoops: 'man find' :-)
[04:06] <nismos> sb help me, ubuntu is my primary desktop and it doesnt boot after a power failure
[04:06] <nismos> booting freezes after this:
[04:07] <nismos> local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)ne 6: setLEDAsusWireless: Command n
[04:07] <Blissex> snoops: you could try 'find / -type l -o "(" -type f -a -links +1 ")"'
[04:07] <nismos> ubuntu is my primary desktop and it doesnt boot after a power failure
[04:08] <JhonnyB> hey guyz anyone help me out with loading ubuntu from usb stick?
[04:08] <nismos> booting does not go beyond this:
[04:08] <nismos> local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)ne 6: setLEDAsusWireless: Command n
[04:08] <Mez> nismus - try not to repeat yourself please
[04:08] <nismos> sorry
[04:08] <snoops> hmm excellent, thanks Blissex.. would that find just symbolic links or symbolic + hard links?
[04:09] <Blissex> snoops: both. Note that I think you don't know what a hard link is... Otherwise you would not be asking that question.
[04:09] <nismos> I guess I will go back to M$ XP
[04:09] <Healot> sure
[04:09] <ych> help, my internet refuses to work, i can't look up any hostnames
[04:09] <CokeNCode> ok guys, quick question, i installed an smtp server
[04:09] <ych> however i set my router as DNS
[04:09] <CokeNCode> and i can connect to find fine on my local machine
[04:09] <CokeNCode> but i can't access it remotely
[04:09] <CokeNCode> from a pc on the same network
[04:10] <CokeNCode> what do i need to do ?
[04:10] <CokeNCode> nmap shows the port as being open
[04:10] <Healot> nismos, if you feel comfortable using Windows XP, then, use it, I recommended Windows XP Professional though :)
[04:10] <noodle> amarok 1.4.1 running on ubuntu takes 10 seconds to quit :\ anyone know what's up?
[04:10] <nismos> when Ubuntu worked it was more usable and stable
[04:11] <nismos> for productivity, multimedia and everything
[04:11] <mrDaniel> with which program i can extraxt password-protected .rar-files ???
[04:11] <snoops> Blissex from my understanding they're system wide only, and allow for mirroring a file in another location, so any application using that file, would be linked back to the original location.. symbolic links hold pointers to said file, and can be across systems?
[04:11] <nismos> the only minus for linux is recovering after a power failure
[04:11] <Warbo> Who knows someting about loadlin?
[04:11] <Blissex> snoops: not really... Gotta read a bit more :-)
[04:12] <Healot> nismos, I really recommend you to stick to Windows XP...
[04:12] <snoops> k
[04:12] <Warbo> Particularly, using loadlin on an MSDOS partition to boot an Ubuntu one
[04:12] <relachs> Hi, can you tell me why the DVD (live and install) is that big comparded to the install only?
[04:12] <nismos> XP is not as fast as Linux
[04:12] <nismos> and is always freezing
[04:12] <nismos> I can't live without apt-get
[04:12] <Healot> nismos, define fast
[04:12] <Healot> it's really a matter of handling and OS not the architecture
[04:13] <Healot> btw, i am using Windows ATm :)
[04:13] <sa0> hi all
[04:13] <nismos> Ubuntu boots faster, loads progs faster
[04:13] <sa0> how to change my acpi signature ?
[04:13] <relachs> answer is appreciated :P
[04:13] <CokeNCode> what the hel is wrong with this this
[04:13] <sa0> nismos, ? than ?
[04:13] <nismos> than XPO
[04:13] <nismos> XP
[04:14] <nismos> XP SP2
[04:14] <nismos> I got 19 Ubuntu machines in my office
[04:14] <nismos> one at home
[04:14] <nismos> and another laptop
[04:14] <nismos> even my aunt prefers it over XP
[04:14] <JhonnyB> anyone knows loadlin?
[04:16] <Healot> JhonnyB, you don't have a bootable CD-ROM drive huh?
[04:16] <Kyja> I installed vice but dont know where it is :(
[04:16] <Healot> whereis vice?
[04:16] <Kyja> yeah
[04:16] <Kyja> I cant find it.
[04:16] <JhonnyB> why healot?
[04:17] <Kyja> and I dont even know the name to launch in terminal
[04:17] <nismos> is it possible to tell the ubuntu installer not to touch my installed progs and user IDs?
[04:17] <Healot> no, i mean type "whereis vice" in terminal
[04:17] <Kyja> tried vice, c54 , cbm
[04:17] <Healot> dpkg -l vice*
[04:17] <ochosi> hi everyone
[04:17] <Kyja> ahhh
[04:17] <Healot> if you got the package name
[04:17] <Kyja> I can try
[04:17] <Healot> dpkg -q <the package name>
[04:18] <ochosi> i have a usb-keyboard and somehow it doesn't work in ubuntu, although it does in grub and winxp
[04:19] <ochosi> i have to add: it is not genuine usb but a ps2 keyboard via a ps2>usb adapter
[04:19] <nismos> wish M$ Windows XP wouldn't crap it's pants after installing 50 programs
[04:20] <Healot> it doesn't
[04:20] <mikeubu> anyone have steps to solve mplayer playing sound but not video for cnn website?
[04:20] <flammifer> is there a way to edit a text file in root that doesn't involve sacrificing virgins to the elder gods?
[04:20] <Kyja> interesting. I find lots of vice but no binary
[04:21] <nismos> theres no root in ubuntu AFAIK
[04:21] <nismos> lol
[04:21] <Kyja> reinstalling
[04:21] <Healot> Kyja, grep for something in /usr/bin;/bin/ etc
[04:21] <flammifer> he refuses to call up gedit, I can't get vi to do anything right, and I don't have anything else (and no access to repositories either)
[04:21] <nismos> c ya guys
[04:21] <Kyja> ok thx
[04:22] <Healot> flammifer, gksudo gedit; enter your password when prompted
[04:22] <Warbo> Am I the only person out of 809 to be running AIGLX?
[04:22] <flammifer> nismos, ok, then how do I edit a file in /etc ?
[04:22] <Healot> for cli program use sudo for F sake
[04:22] <Healot> !root
[04:22] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.