[08:16] <hulk> hi all
[08:16] <greezmunkey> eylisian, check this out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/338519/
[08:16] <hulk> any one herer
[08:16] <Beezie_> !ask | hulk
[08:16] <i_is_broke> hulk nope
[08:17] <llutz> newtoubuntu2: if "ifconfig" shows wlan0 it is up, if you need "ifconfig -a" to show it, it is down. bring it up with "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up"
[08:17] <hulk> hii anygir l hr
[08:17] <artscience> anyone know of any options like that :D
[08:17] <Viking667> hulk: no. Nobody's here. Just your imaginary photons
[08:17] <calamity> Does anyone have any idea when the ubuntu forums will be back up?
[08:17] <hulk> hi beezie
[08:17] <jefry> hello
[08:17] <i_is_broke> !ppa firefox
[08:17] <Beezie_> calamity, google cache is good for older searches, unless you intend to post...
[08:17] <hulk> hello jefrie
[08:17]  * greezmunkey thumbs his crystal ball...
[08:18] <eylisian> greezmunkey: I was reading about LSB compliance in init scripts the other day.
[08:18] <llutz> artscience: you install 8.10?
[08:18] <calamity> Nope, I just need to read the solutions to all my 9.10 issues.
[08:18] <i_is_broke> ruffus910, and ubottu dont know squat about ppa  for it either. i just checked.
[08:18] <Keiya> Argh.
[08:18] <artscience> llutz: yup it's installed
[08:18] <hulk> hey anyone there
[08:18] <scythe> Hi is anybody willing to help me with an issue of sound in flash and rhythmbox not playing anything?
[08:18] <i_is_broke> i know there is one tho
[08:18] <hulk> plz reply
[08:18] <hulk> any girl here
[08:18] <greezmunkey> eylisian, I think I'll just chmod it -x for now!
[08:18] <Keiya> Gnome's burning tool is just broken, K3B crashes...
[08:18] <eylisian> greezmunkey: those are early warnings ... maintainers will be having to rewrite their inits
[08:18] <Kamokow> hulk: just ask your question
[08:18] <llutz> artscience: start live-cd, when in grub-menue press escape "c" to enter grub shell. there "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[08:18] <ruffus910> i have the PPA for it
[08:19] <hulk> hello
[08:19]  * Beezie_ slaps hulk.
[08:19] <ruffus910> it still doent work
[08:19] <llutz> artscience: it will give you something like (hd0,2)
[08:19] <Ascavasaion> I have a webcam pluged into the USB.  I did a lsusb and it is listed at being present.  neith xawtv or camorama find the device.  No /dev/video0 apparently.  How do I check what /dev entry is linked to what USB device?
[08:19] <artscience> this is a macbook so it will be sda
[08:19] <Beezie_> Ascavasaion, what kind of cam is it?
[08:19] <i_is_broke> ruffus910, then thats as far as i can help you, maybe someone else will know more.
[08:19] <newtoubuntu2> llutz: when i do "sudo ifconfig wlan0.up" it says " error fetching interface info: device not found"
[08:19] <llutz> artscience: "root (hd0,X)"    <- output from cmd before
[08:19] <ruffus910> anyone else?
[08:19] <hulk> hey i want to speed my internet connection so anyone can help me haaaaaaaaaaa?
[08:19] <Beefcakes> how do i find out the version of an app i have installed? (compiled)
[08:19] <llutz> newtoubuntu2: wlan0 up" no dot
[08:20] <eylisian> greezmunkey: that said, my 9.10 laptop didn't puke like that.
[08:20] <Beezie_> Beefcakes, man appname
[08:20] <scythep> Hi is anybody willing to help me with an issue of sound in flash and rhythmbox not playing anything?
[08:20] <i_is_broke> ruffus910, have you tried sudo aptitude purge firefox and then try running the ppa again?
[08:20] <Beezie_> Beefcakes, or appname -v
[08:20] <llutz> artscience: "setup (hd0,X)" then, "quit"
[08:20] <artscience> llutz: can you pm this info so I can refer back to it?
[08:20] <greezmunkey> newtoubuntu2, try sudo ifup wlan0...
[08:20] <ruffus910> no, i will try
[08:20] <Kamokow> Anyone know why when I open up .pl files like 75% of the time gedit auto opens, instead of the dialogue box that asks me what I want to do?
[08:20] <ruffus910> one second
[08:20] <hulk>  :( help me to speed my internet
[08:20] <newtoubuntu2> llutz: SIOCSIFFLAGS: no such file or directory
[08:20] <scythepdas> Hi is anybody willing to help me with an issue of sound in flash and rhythmbox not playing anything?
[08:21] <Beezie_> scythepdas, someone will answer eventually dont repeat so often thx
[08:21] <eylisian> greezmunkey: have you been griped at restarting things yet? I was told to use 'service' just this week.
[08:21] <jtaji> Kamokow: the dialogue shows up when they are set executable (chmod +x)
[08:21] <scythepdas> sorry
[08:21] <Kamokow> jtaji: Thanks :)
[08:21] <newtoubuntu2> llutz: do i need to do a ndiswrapper?
[08:22] <jtaji> Ascavasaion: type dmesg right after you plug it in
[08:22] <greezmunkey> eylisian, maybe in the past...
[08:22] <newtoubuntu2> greezmunkey: "sudo ifup wlan0" gives me "ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0"
[08:23] <Beezie_> newtoubuntu2, are you using wicd ?
[08:23] <llutz> newtoubuntu2: ifup needs /etc/network/interfaces to be configured
[08:23] <newtoubuntu2> beezie_: how do i check?
[08:23] <glick> does anyone know the gimp?
[08:23] <glick> how to use it well?
[08:23] <Beezie_> which network manager are you using?
[08:23] <glick> how come cant i redock windows?
[08:23] <glick> how come drag and drop doesnt wrok on it?
[08:23] <arooni-mobile> fsck is going crazy.  is that normal?  its like "ref count is 2, should be 1, a million times..
[08:23] <Beefcakes> if I have a compiled app installed and i download a new source for it and do make; make install, does it update it?
[08:24] <scythepdas> can anyone help me yet
[08:24] <llutz> !checkinstall | Beefcakes
[08:24] <eylisian> anyone firewalling for v6 yet? does ufw support it out of the box?
[08:24] <artscience> llutz: what is this going to do for me?
[08:24] <newtoubuntu2> beezie_: NetworkManager Applet 0.7.996, since it came with ubuntu 9.10
[08:24] <llutz> Beefcakes: if using same PREFIX it should, but make install is a real bad idea
[08:24] <Beezie_> newtoubuntu2, who else was helping you?
[08:24] <llutz> artscience: installing grub into partition
[08:24] <Beefcakes> llutz: real bad idea?
[08:24] <slide> How do I see my computer temperature?
[08:24] <greezmunkey> llutz, I'll stay out of this one, I've had to "tweak" my system for the wireless card I have.
[08:24] <Beefcakes> Beezie_: helping? no one really, just asking it all out here
[08:24] <calamity> that's depressing. the page which most likely has the answer I need isn't cached.
[08:25] <ruffus910> i_is_broken: that did not work either
[08:25] <calamity> my sound output is still aimed at some "dummy output"
[08:25] <eylisian> slide: got sensors?
[08:25] <scythepdas> Hi is anybody willing to help me with an issue of sound in flash and rhythmbox not playing anything?
[08:25] <slide> eylisian, im pretty sure yes
[08:25] <Kamokow> slide: you need sensors
[08:25] <artscience> llutz: an this will work with the intrepid 8.10 live cd?
[08:25] <eylisian> slide: I use gkrellm2
[08:25] <Beezie_> newtoubuntu2, wicd is a superior network manager.. sec
[08:25] <khensthoth> scythepdas: Does other audio application works?
[08:25] <newtoubuntu2> beezie_: llutz and greezmunkey
[08:25] <calamity> scythepdas: are you on 9.10?
[08:25] <Beezie_> !wicd | newtoubuntu2
[08:25] <llutz> Beefcakes: yes, at least use checkinstall, so your compiled apps are known to the packagemanagement
[08:25] <scythepdas> yes im on 9.1
[08:25] <scythepdas> 9.10
[08:25] <Beezie_> !info wicd
[08:25] <calamity> did you just to a fresh install?
[08:25] <llutz> Beefcakes: make update/deinstallation easier
[08:26] <scythepdas> and other audio works such as in java
[08:26] <slide> eylisian, thanks
[08:26] <eylisian> slide: np
[08:26] <scythepdas> well i installed this version yesterday
[08:26] <Beezie_> llutz & greezmunkey you 2 agree wicd is worth installing to make newtoubuntu2's problem easier to fix?
[08:26] <scythepdas> so i think its rather fresh i havent messed with anything so far
[08:26] <khensthoth> scythepdas: Have you seen if your volume in alsamixer, particularly PCM under Playback tab is muted?
[08:26] <calamity> scythepdas: well, I'm having issues with sound too. check your sound preferences, does it list any audio devices?
[08:26] <newtoubuntu2> llutz: how do i config /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:27] <llutz> newtoubuntu2: it won't help, if "sudo ifconfig -a" doesn't show your wlan-device
[08:27] <scythepdas> sound isnt muted
[08:27] <llutz> newtoubuntu2: you need a working friver before
[08:27] <scythepdas> and there is an audio device named internal audio
[08:27] <scythepdas> i havent downloaded drivers yet
[08:27] <ruffus910> i_is_broken: when i do apt-get update, it says some of the sources have no public key
[08:27] <calamity> scythepdas: hrmm
[08:27] <llutz> Beezie_: no idea about those gui things
[08:27] <scythepdas> but audio does work like i said in java games
[08:27] <Beezie_> thx llutz
[08:27] <llutz> driver*
[08:27] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: have you looked at System > Admin > Hardware Drivers >
[08:27] <mneptok> ?
[08:27] <ruffus910> could that have something to do with it?
[08:28] <Beefcakes> how can I list my wireless card's exact model and all?
[08:28] <i_is_broke> ruffus910, yeah could be.
[08:28] <mneptok> Beefcakes: lspci -vvvvv
[08:28] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: What "lspci | grep Audio" tells you?
[08:28] <ruffus910> how do i get the public key?
[08:28] <Ascavasaion> jtaji: I did that... it says [ 8878.345450] ttyS1: LSR safety check engaged!
[08:28] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: it says there are no proprietary drivers installed. everything else is blank and empty. only buttons i can press are "help" and "close"
[08:28] <i_is_broke> ruffus910,  i know there is a way around that ..but dont remember what it is.
[08:29] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: who makes the wireless chipset in your machine?
[08:29] <scythepdas> lspci | grep Audio tells me: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[08:29] <khensthoth> scythepdas: Open Sound Preferences, switch to the Applications tab and play your Flash or Rhythmbox - Are they listed?
[08:29] <ruffus910> oh well, thx anyway, ill just wait for the ubuntu forums to come back
[08:29] <i_is_broke> ruffus910, sorry i couldnt be more help.
[08:29] <greezmunkey> Beezie_, I begged off of that one but I do run wicd, primarily because of issues with NM.
[08:29] <Beefcakes> how do you use a rc2.patch file?
[08:29] <eylisian> ruffus910: what repo do you need a key for?
[08:29] <Beefcakes> rather, just a .patch file?
[08:29] <mneptok> ruffus910: what repos did you add manually to sources.list?
[08:30] <jtaji> Ascavasaion: that doesn't sound right, ttyS1 is the second com port.... do the lines around that one sound like a webcam?
[08:30] <greezmunkey> Beezie_, but any connection manager is useless until the interfaces are properly configured
[08:30] <Beezie_> greezmunkey, i cant do without wicd now :)
[08:30] <ruffus910> no worries broken. mneptok, hold on a sec, ill check
[08:30] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: broadcom Corporation BCM4309
[08:30] <artscience> llutz: when I hit esc it takes me to text mode where I see "boot:" I don't know what you mean by esc "c" though
[08:30] <jtaji> Ascavasaion: even if it was a serial device on USB I'd expect it to be ttyUSBx
[08:30] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: laptop?
[08:30] <llutz> artscience: press "c"
[08:30] <scythepdas> yes in sound preferences > applications rhythmbox is listed as playing audio
[08:30] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: Check your sound preferences, is it listed in the 'hardware' tab?
[08:30] <newtoubuntu2> dell inspiron 600m
[08:30] <Viking667> "c" brings up a grub "command line"
[08:31] <llutz> artscience: you have to enter grub-shell "grub>"
[08:31] <ruffus910> hydr0g3n mneptok
[08:31] <artscience> if I press "c" then I get "boot: c"   lol
[08:31] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: check and make sure you did not diable the wireless by pressing a key combination or a hardware swtich
[08:31] <scythepdas> internal audio 1 output/1 input analog stereo duplex is listed in the hardware tab
[08:31] <mneptok> *switch
[08:31] <Viking667> artscience: you sure you're using grub, and not lilo?
[08:31] <artscience> I think we are missing a command here
[08:31] <Viking667> ditto
[08:31] <newtoubuntu2> there is no hardware switch. as for key combo, i have no idea what would work since i got this as a handmedown
[08:31] <ruffus910> mneptok: i need the hydr0g3n key
[08:32] <artscience> Viking667: I'm not using either
[08:32] <Viking667> try hitting the tab key, tell us what you get
[08:32] <mneptok> ruffus910: never heard of that repo. got a URL?
[08:32] <llutz> artscience: i don't own a 8.10 live-cd, but thought they use grub...
[08:32] <Viking667> artscience: ohh, you're the EFI guy, are you?
[08:32] <artscience> Viking667: yup
[08:32] <Viking667> then I'll step out of this one.
[08:32] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: It should be checked in the output tab.
[08:32] <Viking667> I don't know a thing about it.
[08:32] <artscience> llutz: it does use grub
[08:32] <ruffus910> mneptok: wait its for qbittorrent
[08:32] <scythepdas> yes it is checked
[08:32] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: look on the function keys or thereabouts. is there a key with a wireless icon? is there an LED for the wireless that is illuminated (or not)?
[08:33] <artscience> llutz: like I said I think we are just missing a step
[08:33] <llutz> artscience: try again, boot live-cd, press "c" without escape this time
[08:33] <ruffus910> should i delete the ppa for firefox and reinstall it?
[08:33] <khensthoth> scythepdas: How about Rhythmbox's volume control, not muted or anything?
[08:33] <artscience> should I type "grub" when I am taken to text mode?
[08:33] <artscience> and then hit enter of course lol
[08:33] <Viking667> meanwhile, I'm having a HELL of a problem with Ubuntu. Every time I try to start it up, as soon as we get as far as starting up kdm, I lose both monitors. They go to power-off mode, and I can't get any sense except via ssh.
[08:34] <scythepdas> i am sure it is not muted, system volume is at medium as is rhythmbox
[08:34] <llutz> artscience: i guess that won't work
[08:34] <mneptok> !info qbittorrent
[08:34] <Viking667> this happened after I apt-getted xorg-driver-fglrx, and I have a Radeon 9550
[08:34] <Beezie_> Viking667, have you tried another user profile?
[08:34] <Viking667> "user profile"?
[08:34] <mneptok> ruffus910: why not use the official version?
[08:34] <i_is_broke> ruffus910, hey check this out. http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/05/apt-get-update-how-to-solve-no-public-key-available/
[08:34] <Beezie_> Viking667, logging in with another user
[08:34] <artscience> llutz: what won't work...typing grub?
[08:34] <Viking667> I don't even _get_ to the kdm/gdm
[08:34] <llutz> artscience: yes
[08:34] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: there is no LED for wireless, but there is one for bluetooth. there is a Fn key for wireless, but pressing it did nothing.
[08:35] <Beezie_> Viking667, sorry ok
[08:35] <Viking667> I said "as soon as the Xorg starts up"
[08:35] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: look in "Hardware Drivers" now
[08:35] <Viking667> starting up kdm, sorry
[08:35] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: Do you have graphical alsamixer installed?
[08:35] <ruffus910> mneptok: you mean firefox 3.5? i want to use 3.6 because im a dork with nothing better to do with my time
[08:35] <llutz> artscience: you also can boot into the live-cd and run grub from there if the "c" won't work again
[08:35] <eylisian> ruffus910: http://hydr0g3n.free.fr/qbittorrent/ if thats the repo, i can't find a key.
[08:35] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: no change, still nothing listed.
[08:36] <Beefcakes> if i have an app i installed via make install and i make a deb out of it's update, should i make remove first before installing the .deb?
[08:36] <mneptok> ruffus910: and you're willing to install an unsigned package that could be poorly built or a security risk?
[08:36] <Beezie_> Viking667, can you get a shell?  maybe you can check your .conf file for x11
[08:36] <llutz> Beezie_: if you _can_ remove it, do it
[08:36] <eylisian> mneptok: right.
[08:36] <llutz> Beefcakes: ^^
[08:36] <Beezie_> llutz, ?
[08:36] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: you may have to press both the function key and the "Fn" key together
[08:36] <Beezie_> heh
[08:36] <llutz> Beezie_: sry
[08:36] <Viking667> As soon as X loads the radeon module, that's it. End of. Game over.
[08:36] <ruffus910> firefox 3.6 is very well built, but to answer youre question, why not?
[08:36] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: i know, i did.
[08:36] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: if it's not installed, you can use the one in the terminal by typing 'alsamixer'. In the playback tab, check whether any output is muted.
[08:36] <Beezie_> Viking667, was this after apt-get updates it happened?
[08:37] <scythepdas> isolat3dsh33p: i have alsa-utils installed according to synaptic but not alsamixergui or gnomealsamixer.
[08:37] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: the wireless card is off. if it was on, the "Hardware drivers" applet would see it and install the firmware for it.
[08:37] <Viking667> ... and I can't load the fglrx module either... aticonfig tells me I don't have a suitable card, yet I've got a Radeon 9550 (RV350 AS)
[08:37] <eylisian> ruffus910: no repo key is like un-protected computer sex.
[08:37] <geeknik_> anyone having issues w/ their connection after going to 9.1?
[08:37]  * Viking667 goes and reboots the silly computer
[08:37] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: would BIOS be able to turn it on?
[08:37] <Beezie_> Viking667, id still check the conf file out in shell
[08:37] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: it very well may
[08:37] <ruffus910> i just want 3.6 to work again
[08:37] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: you can you the terminal. type 'alsamixer'
[08:37] <eylisian> ruffus910: it might be thrilling but it also might get you p0wned.
[08:38] <Beezie_> isolat3dsh33p, is there a gui front end-line alsamixer thing?  ive been wondering myself.
[08:38] <artscience> ok I'm going into live
[08:38] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: trying that
[08:38] <RSMITH16384> can someone recommend a good syslog server?
[08:38] <scythepdas> isolat3dsh33p: master volume is at 81, pcm at 100 and front at 81. everything else is muted
[08:38] <artscience> I forgot how to run grub from there though
[08:38] <eylisian> artscience: sweet.
[08:38] <travmon> QAMIX   works  great!!!
[08:38] <ruffus910> Im always careful, I just want Firefox 3.6 to work again
[08:39] <llutz> artscience:when in live-cd, open terminal: "sudo su", "grub", "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[08:39] <eylisian> ruffus910: have you tried launching it (FF 3.6) from a terminal and seeing what errors are within?
[08:40] <geeknik_> anyine have issues w/ browser in 9.1
[08:40] <isolat3dsh33p> schestowitz: Are you trying to play mp3 files?
[08:40] <ruffus910> how do i do that (sorry im still getting used to ubuntu
[08:41] <isolat3dsh33p> Beezie_: I use GNOME alsamixer :/
[08:41] <eylisian> ruffus910: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[08:41] <RSMITH16384> ubuntu says i have rsyslog installed, how can i view the log?
[08:41] <ruffus910> eylisian: How could I run something that isnt installed on my computer?
[08:41] <greezmunkey> RSMITH16384, http://johncrackernet.blogspot.com/2008/09/howto-setup-syslog-server-in-ubuntu.html
[08:41] <Beezie_> isolat3dsh33p, i just installed QAMIX .
[08:41] <eylisian> ruffus910:  ah.
[08:41] <scythepdas> isolat3dsh33p: if you mean me seeing as i cant see anyone named shestowitz, yes i am attempting to play mp3 files from my ipod
[08:42] <llutz> RSMITH16384: less /var/log/syslog
[08:42] <eylisian> ruffus910: heh, you mentioned you just wanted it to work again.
[08:42] <i_is_broke> ruffus910, did you get the link i sent you its how to go around the key.
[08:42] <Viking667> sorry about that. I've reboted.
[08:42] <Nirrad> hello i am using the latest ubuntu i am trying to install Fulltilt poker through wine. But i cannot seem to get the app to start  after install. I have installed the mscore fonts and copied all the dll files to the win32 folder but it still wont start. Any suggestions ?
[08:42] <oversize> when changing /etc/X11/xorg.conf to set my second screens resolution this gets overwritten after X restarts.Where do i have to set the resoultion?
[08:42] <ruffus910> eylisian: sorry, it has been a while since i asked the question. do you know how i could reinstall it?
[08:42] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: if that's the case, your line in should not be muted. :/
[08:43] <Viking667> Beezie_: the only problem seems to be when I installed the xorg-driver-fglrx package. Once I installed that, then everything X-related went seriously sideways.
[08:43] <isolat3dsh33p> *line-in
[08:43] <eylisian> ruffus910: you got it from launchpad?
[08:43] <ruffus910> i_is_broke: yes i did get it, and will go throug hit in a minute
[08:43] <Viking667> Funnily enough, the terminal still accepts input even though both monitors are "dead"
[08:43] <i_is_broke> ruffus910, k just checking
[08:43] <Beezie_> Viking667, you might need to track down an elder version and install it from console
[08:43] <Viking667> "older" version of what?
[08:43] <ruffus910> eylisian: i did sudo apt-get install after putting in the software sources
[08:43] <scythepdas> isolat3dsh33p: ok should i try unmuting it? how would i go about doing that?
[08:43] <Beezie_> Viking667, xorg-driver-fglrx package
[08:44] <ruffus910> eylisian: then today i uninstalled and want it reinstalled
[08:44] <Viking667> hahahaha... you _are_ kidding, aren't you?
[08:44] <Beezie_> no im serious.
[08:44] <Beezie_> :)
[08:44] <Viking667> *sigh*
[08:44] <artscience> error 15: file not found
[08:44] <Viking667> I was afraid you'd say that.
[08:44] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: turned it on but no dice. still nothing found under "hardware drivers", and "network tools 2.28.0" says state is "inactive"
[08:44] <eylisian> ruffus910: right. without a key or the link someone mentioned to work around no key, your box won't pull the package.
[08:44] <Beezie_> Viking667, dont take my advice as gospel. :)  its just a logical step since installing xorg-driver-fglrx might've caused it
[08:44] <Viking667> for the moment at least, I'm disabling it until I figure out whether it's worth the anguish.
[08:44] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: sound preferences->input->Connector->Line-in
[08:45] <artscience> I'm in grub in the terminal as a super user
[08:45] <eylisian> ruffus910: if it's launchpad related, import the key...
[08:45]  * eylisian looks
[08:45] <ruffus910> eylisian: when i do apt-get install now, it says there is no installation candidate
[08:45] <Beefcakes> hi where do the kernel modules reside in ubuntu? i need to apply a patch to a kernel module
[08:45] <Viking667> I had to remove fglrx-amdcccle too...
[08:45] <kr_ubuntu> how to add password policy in ldap for ubuntu?
[08:46] <geeknik_> ^2test
[08:46] <geeknik_> *hi
[08:46] <artscience> oh y'know what I can mount my ext3 partition with the ubuntu installation from live
[08:46] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: do you see it listed when you run lspci ?
[08:46] <llutz> artscience: you haven't installed grub at all. try chrooting into your installation and reinstall grub with apt-get.
[08:46] <scythepdas> isolat3dsh33p: just tried playing rhythmbox after unmuting. no luck there. i also forgot to add that when i select to play something in rhythmbox the play button turns to a pause button but the slider doesnt move at all
[08:46] <geeknik_> anyone having issues w/ their webrowser running slow w/ 9.1?
[08:46] <llutz> !chroot > artscience
[08:47] <i_is_broke> geeknik_, im not.
[08:47] <geeknik_> hmm
[08:47] <llutz> !anyone    | geeknik_
[08:47] <i_is_broke> geeknik_, what browser are you talking about for sure?
[08:47] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: it was always there
[08:48] <llutz> geeknik_: what exact is slow, what sites, what browser etc.pp
[08:48] <eylisian> ruffus910: without the key the src will be ignored. if you go to : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa  which i think you have already been to, click technical details, the repo key is there.
[08:48] <Beezie_> geeknik_, have you tried creating a new firefox profile ?
[08:48] <geeknik_> Ive tried firefox and chrome....both hesitate, "think" when going to pages...very intermittent
[08:48]  * eylisian looks for import
[08:49] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: if you haven't installed ubuntu restricted extras, try installing it.
[08:49] <geeknik_> doent happena ll the time but enuff to be a nuisance
[08:49] <Daifan> how do you disable the user join/leave messages on xchat?
[08:49] <a2f> i've got a monster of a question: why is it whenever i try to install xchat from a BRAND NEW installation, it tries to install a bunch of qt4 crap and the arora browser???????????
[08:49] <scythepdas> isolat3dsh33p: i have installed that earlier whilst looking through help threads on my issue.
[08:49] <jtaji> geeknik_: firefox will get pretty bad when you have a lot of disk i/o going on sadly
[08:49] <artscience> llutz: so to clarify the command to chroot to my installation is...?
[08:50] <jtaji> geeknik_: happen to be copying files at the time?
[08:50] <geeknik_> I dont, just surfing, no diff than when I was running 9.04
[08:50] <Beezie_> geeknik_,  have you tried an internet speed test?
[08:50] <geeknik_> im not doing anything but surfing
[08:50] <mneptok> geeknik_: i assume you're talking about the w3m browser in the terminal?
[08:50] <Beezie_> geeknik_,  http://dslreports.com/speedtest
[08:50] <geeknik_> my speed is fine, its not my connection
[08:51] <llutz> eylisian: entries without key won't be ignored, you just will be asked to confirm if you want to install something from there
[08:51] <a2f> can someone please test for me if synaptic tries to install arora if you mark the package xchat for installation?
[08:51] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: If that's the case, sorry I can't help you. :/
[08:51] <meowbuntu> hive application
[08:51] <llutz> !chroot > artscience
[08:52] <eylisian> llutz: I believe with a ppa key, my machines won't install anything.
[08:52] <Beefcakes> I dont get it... im running the update manager and its only installing gdm now... why dont i have the gnome display manager already?
[08:52] <meowbuntu> hi i'm looking for a zip archive application
[08:52] <scythepdas> isolat3dsh33p: no problem thanks for all your help. best of luck.
[08:52] <eylisian> ruffus910: http://www.aldeby.org/blog/adding-the-key-of-a-launchpad-ppa-repository.html use those instructions to import the key at the FF 3.6 launchpad page.
[08:52] <Beezie_> meowbuntu, to open or create zip?
[08:52] <meowbuntu> for compressing un compressing  files.
[08:52] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: you're welcome :)
[08:52] <eylisian> llutz: s/with/without
[08:52] <a2f> meowbuntu i remember you for last nite, here's a question i just asked... seems to be a pretty big problem after i've reinstalled like 5 times tonight
[08:53] <a2f> why is it whenever i try to install xchat from a BRAND NEW installation, it tries to install a bunch of qt4 crap and the arora browser?
[08:53] <Daifan> set irc_conf_mode 1
[08:53] <Nirrad> anyone else tried installing fulltilt poker ?
[08:53] <Beezie_> meowbuntu, 7zip is good
[08:53] <anonymous_> hi : is there an irc help for rosetta ?
[08:53] <meowbuntu> a2f whats up
[08:53] <a2f> just pasted the q
[08:53] <Viking667> anonymous_: which rosetta?
[08:53] <meowbuntu> ah i remember. can 7zip handle bz2 files
[08:53] <Viking667> The language translator?
[08:53] <anonymous_> yes
[08:53] <anonymous_> for https://translations.launchpad.net
[08:54] <meowbuntu> anonymous_, yes to who
[08:54] <geirha> anonymous_: #ubuntu-translators
[08:54] <isolat3dsh33p> a2f: I install xchat using the apt-get. No behavior like what you said.
[08:54] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: any futher help?
[08:54] <a2f> well i've been doing it from the command line and it's giving me that problem every time
[08:54] <Viking667> meowbuntu: and yes, it seems to support .bz2
[08:55] <eylisian> llutz: I think it's because you can't pull the list.  it can be over ridden, but I don't think I ever would.
[08:55] <anonymous_> geirha, thanks
[08:55] <Viking667> anonymous_: by the way, there seem to be two "rosetta" programs
[08:55] <a2f> meowbuntu does synaptic try to install arora for you if you try to install xdg-utils?
[08:55] <meowbuntu> isolat3dsh33p, in terminal type. sudo apt-get install xchat
[08:56] <a2f> why is synaptic so ****ed up for me even after i've reinstalled like 10 times in the past 2 days
[08:56] <meowbuntu> Viking667, , 7zip is not in synaptic
[08:56] <preecher> setup vpn server on my windows xp work machine- trying to get vpn client to work on my ubuntu laptop- unable to connect -any suggestions?
[08:57] <surlo> Well, I've installed WoW and Burning Crusade Expansion, but when I try to install WOTLK, I open the installer.exe with Wine installer and still the "Agree" button is not "lighting" up when I reach teh end of the End User License.
[08:57] <ruffus910> eylisian: still says no installation candidate
[08:57] <Viking667> meowbuntu: hm.
[08:57] <arooni-mobile> if i acidentally ran 'sudo mke2fs /dev/sdc6' for one sec only before control+c'ing it (because i wanted to run mke2fs -n instead.. will e2fsck fix it ?  or is tihs file system lost forever?
[08:57] <jtaji> a2f: now that's possible, here it shows www-browser as a depends http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/xdg-utils
[08:57] <Beezie_> meowbuntu, ark is, try ark
[08:57]  * om26er thinks empathy is getting better
[08:57] <jtaji> a2f: one of 24 options for www-browser is arora, interestingly it's the first one alphabetically
[08:57] <Beezie_> meowbuntu, zipper is another
[08:57] <meowbuntu> Viking667, i used 7zip in xp. but that was like 8 months ago
[08:58] <Viking667> install p7zip
[08:58] <Viking667> That's the 7zip program
[08:58] <Viking667> (or appears to be, anyhow)
[08:58] <jtaji> a2f: so if you didn't have a www-browser installed already...
[08:59] <a2f> jtaji, this all started happening last nite when i tried installing google-chrome-beta... one of its dependencies is xdg-utils so when it installs that for some reason arora comes with it
[09:00] <jtaji> meowbuntu: you might want p7zip-full , supports other compression formats like 7zip for windows
[09:00] <artao> hello virtual people
[09:00] <preecher> setup vpn server on my windows xp work machine- trying to get vpn client to work on my ubuntu laptop- unable to connect -any suggestions?
[09:00]  * Viking667 prods himself
[09:00] <artao> many are here
[09:00] <Viking667> ow
[09:00] <Viking667> Nope, I'm not virtual
[09:00] <i_is_broke> ugh i didnt know there was kernel updates today....great lets see if it trashes the system again.
[09:00] <artao> viking ... we're all virtual
[09:00] <artao> lol
[09:00] <ThePassingShadow> Does anyone perhaps know of an app that puts two different images as two different wallpapers in Ubuntu ?
[09:00] <artao> ............. advice needed ..........
[09:00] <Viking667> have it your way. I'm physical
[09:01] <artao> lol
[09:01] <sid_> i have ubuntu 9.10 installed .....but in this its taking very long time to copy files from hard disk to pen drive????
[09:01] <artao> this is NOT the board i' m looking for .........
[09:01] <jozefk> sid_, did you try with MC?
[09:01] <Viking667> If I weren't physical, then you wouldn't see any input from me. I'm not exactly a computer program. Eliza has _nothing_ on me.
[09:01] <Beezie_> sid_, is port and usb pen drive both usb 2.0?
[09:01] <artao> what board can I use for relationship advice?
[09:01] <artao> ..................
[09:02] <sid_> beezie:its 2.0
[09:02] <Viking667> considering this isn't a "board", go try a date.
[09:02]  * Viking667 dumps out of here.
[09:02] <sid_> josefk:sorry mc?
[09:02] <jozefk> Midnight Commander
[09:02] <artao> board is a general term these days .......... sorry
[09:02] <jozefk> artao, i'm in love with your dashed lines :D
[09:03] <DaZ> dashed? >:
[09:03] <powertool08> I'm trying to share my printer with samba and xp boxes can see it, but when I connect it says it could not find a driver. I've put several inf files from the printer install cd into /var/lib/samba/printers but its still not finding them. What am I doing wrong?
[09:03] <artao> trying a date ........ but need advice .......... need proper 'board' as it were
[09:03] <sid_> josefk:no i didint try with dat
[09:03] <jozefk> sid_, why not?
[09:03] <DaZ> artao: you'll find something on usenet
[09:04] <artao> usenet is HUGE
[09:04] <artao> this is part of it
[09:04] <sid_> josefk:i directly copy paste?
[09:04] <DaZ> eh
[09:04] <jtaji> !ot | artao
[09:04] <geeknik_> close
[09:04] <Daemonis> hi there
[09:04] <Beezie_> !ask | Daemonis
[09:05] <artao> this was the most active board i could find on freenet thus I ask for 'romantic' board reccomendations here ... if u follw me
[09:05] <DaZ> Beezie_: maybe he just wanted to say hi :f
[09:05] <Beezie_> true :)
[09:05] <jozefk> sid_, in terminal type "mc" and then copy your files. select them with Insert key on keyboard and hit F5 after that. you must to open your external HDD on the other side of MC of course :)
[09:05] <surlo> Hello there. I experience an issue. I installed succesfully WoW and Burning Crusade expansion with Wine. But when I try to install the Wotlk expansion , I open the installer with wine but I am unable to hit the ''Agree'' button in the term of agreement. Any idea?
[09:05] <sid_> josefk:k ill do that ...thanks
[09:05] <jozefk> i mean in other panel
[09:05] <Beefcakes> is there a way to list applications i installed via make install?
[09:05] <newtoubuntu2> llutz: Beezie_: uh, still stuck w/ no wireless. right now trying a ndiswrapper but the make is bumping into errors
[09:05] <jozefk> np
[09:06] <DaZ> surlo: scroll through the license? :f
[09:06] <Daemonis> is this channel strictly for support or is it to chat also? lol
[09:06] <jozefk> haha
[09:06] <jozefk> she quit
[09:06] <surlo> Daz: it doesnt work either if you reach the end
[09:06] <jozefk> :P
[09:06] <jtaji> Beefcakes: not really, if you were smart enough to install them under the /usr/local hierarchy they should all be under there
[09:06] <jozefk> he*
[09:06] <Beezie_> newtoubuntu2, u had a broadcom wireless if i recall. have you googled your model # and see if others had problems on forums?
[09:06] <artao> lol i waste my time here, don't i?
[09:06] <newtoubuntu2> yea, evidently broadcom doesnt release their spec.
[09:07] <geirha> surlo: Try #winehq
[09:07] <Beefcakes> jtaji: i'll remember that the next time.. but how do i specifically install them under /usr/local ?
[09:07] <powertool08> Daemonis: It's supposed to be support only.
[09:07] <Beezie_> that isnt what i meant
[09:07] <surlo> geirha: thank you
[09:07] <artao> what channel should i use for romantic relationship questions ??
[09:07] <Beezie_> artao, #dalnet..
[09:07] <Beefcakes> artao: LOL
[09:07] <artao> ty
[09:07] <jtaji> Beefcakes: it can usually be specified during the config step... also even better there's checkinstall
[09:07] <powertool08> !ot | Daemonis If you want to chat
[09:07] <jtaji> !checkinstall | Beefcakes
[09:07] <Freedom234> what is happening to ubuntu forums?
[09:08] <Beefcakes> jtaji: checkinstall -D make install always fails on me =/
[09:08] <oneirosFade> Does anyone here have (or have experience with) eBooks (esp. the Sony PRS-300) under Linux?  I haven't been able to find a viable way to buy/download/manage eBooks with Ubuntu :(
[09:08] <newtoubuntu2> Beezie_: yes, i am reading online. that's what they mentioned. will try going to broadcom's site and see if they have something.
[09:08] <Freedom234> i get database error,when i try going to ubuntu forums
[09:08] <travmon> maybe   forums  are  in  maintance
[09:08] <Daemonis> Does anyone have any experience with SAMBA on ubuntu server 8.10? I've tried setting up a simple file server that is publicaly accessible on my windows network, and have managed to get as far as being able to see it on the network, but no matter what I try it won't let me connect to it. I'd like to set it up to where no username or password was needed.
[09:08] <bhuvi> newtoubuntu2, mine is also a broadcomm adaptor but it work perfectly in ubuntu9.10
[09:08] <jtaji> Beefcakes: yeah it's not foolproof, but using the /usr/local hierarchy is good enough to keep them separate from the package system, and have a chance at removing them if need be
[09:09] <newtoubuntu2> bhuvi: how did it work?
[09:10] <bhuvi> newtoubuntu2, it works by default
[09:10] <Kris07> Hi, I'm having some problems with Compiz, my Cube Caps or Skydome don't seem to be working properly, can anybody help?
[09:10] <adorablepuppy> Help! I was installing Ubuntu to an SD Card (stupidly) and it ate my Windows 7 MBR on the primary hard drive!
[09:10] <Freedom234> whats the point in having compiz?
[09:11] <bhuvi> newtoubuntu2, wat version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:11] <willemb> greetings
[09:11] <Kris07> For the effects
[09:11] <oneirosFade> Freedom234:  That's not terribly helpful, you know.
[09:11] <Daemonis> Puppy, maybe you could boot into the live cd and use a program from ubuntu to restore the mbr
[09:11] <powertool08> Kris07: Compiz has its own channel at #compiz, might get more help there.
[09:11] <usagi> wth is gnome so broken?
[09:11] <willemb> I am considering buying a Compaq Mini 110c for my father for Christmas
[09:11] <MenZa> surlo: Define 'broken'. Next, don't swear.
[09:12] <willemb> and loading unr on it
[09:12] <Kris07> Powertool08, I tried
[09:12] <newtoubuntu2> bhuvi: same, 9.10
[09:12] <willemb> however, when he uses it at home, he will want to use it with his external screen
[09:12] <usagi> i have the japanese kb layout and theres no |
[09:12] <jtaji> adorablepuppy: that's really a #windows question... no experience with Windows 7, but in the past you would boot the windows install cd and use fixmbr
[09:12] <willemb> on which the remix interface will be less than optimal
[09:12] <adorablepuppy> jtaji: There was no install CD for this laptop
[09:12] <jtaji> adorablepuppy: yep so... #windows
[09:13] <willemb> can he switch back and forth between that and the traditional interface quickly and easily?
[09:13] <adorablepuppy> jtaji: It's not a windows issue.
[09:13] <Beezie_> adorablepuppy, sec....
[09:13] <geirha> adorablepuppy: For the future, on the last step of the installer, there's an "Advanced" button in which you can choose where grub should be installed. The default is the main hard drive, regardless of where you install ubuntu
[09:13] <szyzln> I'm  com from China
[09:13] <adorablepuppy> This problem is specifically being caused by grub.
[09:13] <oneirosFade> willemb:  There's an option in the config tab of UNR to go to traditional
[09:13] <usagi> MenZa: now could you explain me wth gnome decided to remove the | from the layout?
[09:13] <jtaji> adorablepuppy: oh it sure is, you want to restore the Windows MBR
[09:13] <travmon> supergrubdisk  should  fix  mbr
[09:13] <adorablepuppy> jtaji: I don't want to restore the windows MBR.
[09:13] <MenZa> usagi: No. Try irc.gnome.org.
[09:13] <willemb> oneirosFade:  and easy to go back again?  Sorry, I have never tried the netbook remix
[09:13] <bhuvi> newtoubuntu2, have you looked in system->administration->hardware drivers,is there any drivers listed
[09:13] <usagi> MenZa: simply impossible to grep for something
[09:13] <j3llyf15h> hey I was tired in my ubuntu 8.10>>>modprobe: Fatal: Could not load /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>/modules.dep: no such file or directory>> how to fix this???
[09:14] <jtaji> adorablepuppy: you said it ate your Win 7 MBR
[09:14] <usagi> MenZa: will do
[09:14] <oneirosFade> willemb:  I imagine it's just as easy to switch back, though I've never tried
[09:14] <adorablepuppy> I want to make grub see my windows 7 so I can go back and redo the MBR through recovery.
[09:14] <Beezie_> adorablepuppy, http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[09:14] <ifconfig|grep> Hey there, how does hosting muiltable computers from the same IP work?
[09:14] <ifconfig|grep> them all being ubuntu
[09:14] <adorablepuppy> Beezie: Thanks.
[09:14] <newtoubuntu2> bhuvi: no drivers listed. also made sure that the wireless is active in BIOS.
[09:14] <travmon> supergrubdisk  rocks
[09:14] <Freedom234>  i rock
[09:14] <Beezie_> adorablepuppy, im not 100% if it can restore win32 mbrs but its worth a look
[09:14] <Daemonis> Does anyone know how I would go about setting up SAMBA on ubuntu server 8.10 so that it is publicly accessible on a windows network?
[09:15] <ifconfig|grep> ...
[09:15] <adorablepuppy> . . . only I'm on a live CD right now, I dunno how I'm going to download this and I don't know how I'm going to install it either. :_;
[09:15] <Beezie_> Daemonis, you mean the shares are 100% promiscuous?
[09:15] <bhuvi> newtoubuntu2, what is your wifi device model
[09:15] <Daemonis> Yes, that's what I mean. No username or password required..
[09:15] <willemb> I can't seem to find any good information on the web:  Any idea why I cannot get unr to boot in qemu?
[09:15] <newtoubuntu2> bcm4309
[09:15] <newtoubuntu2> bhuvi: bcm4309
[09:15] <MenZa> !grub2 | adorablepuppy
[09:16] <indus> hi
[09:16] <Beezie_> Daemonis, http://www.debuntu.org/guest-file-sharing-with-samba
[09:16] <Daemonis> Thank you.
[09:16] <Rajasun> j3llyf15h: hmmm are you sure you are running 8.10?
[09:17] <j3llyf15h> yeahh I'm sure  (BT4_pre-release)
[09:17] <Rajasun> j3llyf15h: what does cat /etc/lsb-release says?
[09:18] <oneirosFade> So, nobody knows anything about ereaders/ebooks under Ubuntu?
[09:18] <j3llyf15h> <<<DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[09:18] <j3llyf15h> DISTRIB_RELEASE=8.10
[09:18] <j3llyf15h> DISTRIB_CODENAME=intrepid
[09:18] <j3llyf15h> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 8.10"
[09:18] <j3llyf15h> >>>>
[09:18] <FloodBot1> j3llyf15h: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:18] <bigRoN> I just discovered an annoyance. I have Ubuntu Karmic 64-bit installed on my computer with a 250 GB internal hard drive. I also have a 3 TB NAS.  I created symbolic links for several of my media folders, such as music, photos and download directory into my home directory... to make getting to them easier. Unfortunately, this made Ubuntu think that I had run out of room in my home directory, because the size of these symbolic links wer
[09:18] <bigRoN> e larger than the local hard drive. Once I deleted the symbolic links, no more errors saying I was out of drive space. Bizarre. Anyone else experienced this or have any ideas?
[09:19] <bigRoN> The symbolic links refer to directories on the NAS if I wasn't clear enough.
[09:19] <j3llyf15h> ??///?
[09:19] <Rajasun> j3llyf15h: Coz 8.10 carries a 2.6.27 kernel not 2.6.29
[09:19] <O__o> hey how to install chrome in ubuntu?
[09:20] <bigRoN> Chromium?
[09:20] <Carborane> I reinstalled a program with apt-get (wine) but it did not recreate the entries in the Applications menu, is there any way to get it to do so without manually adding each entry?
[09:20] <isolat3dsh33p> O__o: no chrome in ubuntu try Chromium instead
[09:20] <O__o> isolat3dsh33p, then how?
[09:20] <cell0> how do i find which files are read/written to the most on my system?
[09:20] <willemb> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[09:20] <jozefk> j3llyf15h, what's happened with your nick?
[09:20] <willemb> without the -src, even
[09:20] <davep> hmm. what exactly do i need set up before linux will NAT?
[09:20] <bhuvi> newtoubuntu2, mine is BCM4312 and it works perfectly fine,have you tried searching for it ubuntu forums
[09:21] <davep> i have hostapd set up, dhcp working, and another laptop connected
[09:21] <isolat3dsh33p> !chromium | O__o
[09:21] <davep> but it isnt routing anything.
[09:21] <newtoubuntu2> bhuvi: they're down...
[09:21] <O__o> isolat3dsh33p, is there flash?
[09:21] <j3llyf15h> Rajasun
[09:21] <bigRoN> I came to IRC as well because the forums were down...
[09:21]  * om26er thinks if want something stable try google chrome
[09:21] <isolat3dsh33p> O__o: Not sure, me myself haven't try it yet.
[09:22] <davep> wait, i forgot one thing.
[09:22] <willemb> youtube works, if that counts
[09:22] <Beezie_> O__o, flash works in chrome
[09:22] <bhuvi> newtoubuntu2, oh! i thought it was a problem with my internet connection
[09:23] <ayeizajedi> hey everyone, i have a sony vaio VGN-FW11E laptop with a Radeon HD 34xx graphics card, when i performed an update i inadvertantly installed the glrfx graphics drivers thus replacing the stock ATI ones in place.. needless to say i now can  no longer get into the GUI and am stuck at the CLI having run the recovery mode from grub.  can anyone help with getting this correclty configured again please?
[09:23] <j3llyf15h> >>>>?????
[09:23] <Beezie_> ayeizajedi, someone was in here with that exact issue 1h ago
[09:24] <davep> hmm, how can i set ip_forward to 1 in one command?
[09:24] <davep> if i do: sudo echo '1' > ip_forward
[09:24] <davep> the "echo '1'" runs as root
[09:24] <davep> the redirection, does not.
[09:24] <Flannel> davep: echo '1' | sudo tee ip_forward
[09:24] <Flannel> davep: to append (>>) use `tee -a`
[09:24] <rober2> small help please: hoe do I activate or access the DISK MANAGER in ubuntu (pls see what i mean - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiskManagerByDefault
[09:25] <ayeizajedi> Beezie_: any idea what the solution was?
[09:25] <bhuvi> newtoubuntu2, i found a tutorial on how to make it work it's for 9.04 ,you could give it a try http://johnnydopefish.blogspot.com/2009/02/ubuntu-810-dell-inspiron-5100-broadcom.html
[09:25]  * om26er says lxde is super fast
[09:25] <davep> sweet!
[09:25] <Rajasun> O__o: http://www.google.com/chrome?platform=linux Or add this to your sources.list -> deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable main deb -> run sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install google-chrome-beta
[09:25] <davep> the ping suddenly started working
[09:25] <davep> thanks :D
[09:25] <j3llyf15h> hey I was tired in my ubuntu 8.10>>>modprobe: Fatal: Could not load /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>/modules.dep: no such file or directory>> how to fix this???
[09:25]  * davep has never used tee before >.>
[09:25] <isolat3dsh33p> ayeizajedi: Maybe you could change the xorg.conf using the liveCD
[09:25] <Beezie_> ayeizajedi, he considered tracking the old install down and reinstalling it to fix it
[09:26] <davep> it works! 3g wifi router >:D
[09:26] <Beezie_> isolat3dsh33p, he can get a console login so he can prolly do it without live cd
[09:27] <Rajasun> j3llyf15h: Ubuntu 8.10 intrepid's officially ships and supports a 2.6.27 kernel not a 2.6.29 one
[09:28] <isolat3dsh33p> Beezie_: That makes sense. (^_^;)
[09:28] <davep> what kind of problems can i expect with an unsupported kernel?
[09:28] <davep> ...anything? :D
[09:28] <davep> (or everything, rather)
[09:28] <Rajasun> j3llyf15h: what does uname -rsa shows?
[09:28] <wlada> hi everybody..
[09:29] <Rajasun> davep: well a thousand and one things...google for them at www.google.com/linux...stick to the official one if possible
[09:29] <j3llyf15h> -laptop <IP_ADDRESS> #1 SMP Thu Jun 18 10:57:32 EDT 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:29] <jozefk> zdravo vlado :))
[09:30] <kraut> moin
[09:30] <davep> i would, but the official one doesnt play nice with hostapd :\
[09:30] <O__o> Rajasun, error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libnss3-1d
[09:30] <davep> eeek
[09:30] <davep> pppd doesnt work
[09:30]  * jozefk brb. lunch
[09:30] <davep> wait, it needs root
[09:30] <davep> nevermind
[09:30] <davep> :D
[09:30] <wlada> I'm experiencing troubles since last update with both my computers running Ubuntu 9.10... the graphical file manager is freezing all the time.. (cmds from shell works fine) anybody has same experience?
[09:31] <Rajasun> j3llyf15h: See http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu -> scrolld down till you see Package -> linus...what does it says about 8.10 and the kernel i.e. linux?
[09:31] <Rajasun> linux*
[09:31] <mgv1> what are good channels on teamspeak?
[09:31] <albech__> mgv1, channels?
[09:32] <mgv1> albech__, yes - voice channels
[09:32] <nisshh> mgv1: whichever ones you like
[09:32] <mgv1> nisshh, do you know of any active one?
[09:33] <om26er> !test
[09:34] <Rajasun> 0__o: libnss3-1d is in main. Type apt-cache policy libnss3-1d. sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install libnss3-1d
[09:34] <mgv1> does anyone is familier with teamspeak?????????
[09:34] <wlada> Sorry for copying my question, but I'm confused what is happening... I'm experiencing troubles since last update with both my computers running Ubuntu 9.10... the graphical file manager is freezing all the time.. (cmds from shell works fine) anybody has same experience?
[09:36] <Rajasun> 0__0: or just add that deb line I told you about, re-run sudo aptitdue update && sudo aptitude install google-chrome-beta . I have been running it for 2 days already. before that I was using the unstable deb. See http://www.imgplace.com/viewimg44/4683/9609dec2009228gnomee.png
[09:36] <Beezie_> its ok wlada someone will help eventually
[09:37] <albech> mgv1, you just want to talk or any specific topic? its like asking if anyone know a book.. we all do, but what do you want to read?
[09:37] <viggy_prabhu> hi friends,
[09:37] <albech> hi | viggy_prabhu
[09:38] <viggy_prabhu> i want to install a LTSP server
[09:38] <chenhui> hi everyone
[09:38] <chenhui> what about you talked?
[09:38] <a2f> anyone know how to install XLibs-dev on karmic?
[09:39] <viggy_prabhu> I saw in a wiki that f4 option will give me an option to install a ltsp server
[09:39] <viggy_prabhu> But in ubuntu9.10-desltop version, I couldnt find such option,
[09:39] <viggy_prabhu> Is it present in 9.10 server version?
[09:39] <Beezie_> viggy_prabhu, or alternate version
[09:39] <handsaw> ubuntu web forums often down this long?
[09:39] <Beezie_> viggy_prabhu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
[09:40] <viggy_prabhu> Can anybody confirm it, before I download it
[09:40] <jtaji> viggy_prabhu: looks like it's on the alternate install cd
[09:40] <jtaji> !alternate | viggy_prabhu
[09:40] <viggy_prabhu> oh ok
[09:40] <bhuvi> newtoubuntu2, does it work for u?
[09:41] <viggy_prabhu> Beezie_, jtaji ubottu Thanks a lot
[09:41] <viggy_prabhu> will check it out
[09:41] <kr_ubuntu> i have setup ldapserver on my machine.But i am not able to create a ldapuser?
[09:41] <kr_ubuntu> i am getting a error that Cannot resolve group example to gid : not found
[09:42] <jtaji> kr_ubuntu: do you actually have a group named example on your system? most likely not...
[09:42] <jtaji> kr_ubuntu: some where in your ldap config you need to change that to a real group
[09:43] <jtaji> e.g. users
[09:43] <indus> !chrome
[09:44] <indus> google chrome beta now available
[09:44] <kr_ubuntu> jtaji, sorry but i didn't get that."example" group exist
[09:44] <kr_ubuntu> jtaji, i just ldapsearch on it to view the group
[09:44] <om26er> !chromium | indus
[09:44] <jtaji> kr_ubuntu: standard linux users/groups
[09:44] <indus> time to get rid of crappy firefox
[09:45] <indus> om26er: old news buddy, chrome for linux beta is official now
[09:45] <Rajasun> Chrome or Chromium let the user decide for himself or herself...each has the right to choose. we aren't some proprietary OS.
[09:45] <jtaji> kr_ubuntu: the error is saying it's trying to resolve groupname example to a gid... you do not have an example group in your /etc/group
[09:45] <indus> the name is proprietary
[09:45] <cell0> how do i find which files are read/written to the most on my system? Anyone?
[09:46] <om26er> indus: know that, but chromium will come with lucid ARM netbook so chromium
[09:46] <indus> http://www.google.com/chrome?platform=linux&hl=en  get it now !
[09:46] <Daemonis> Are there any good video editing software available for ubuntu?
[09:46] <om26er> !spam | indus
[09:46] <Rajasun> indus: you still don't get the drift do ya? ;)
[09:46] <indus> Rajasun: nope
[09:46] <om26er> Daemonis: pitivi,
[09:47] <jussi01> indus: please dont promote beta software in here. Also, please keep on the topic of ubuntu support
[09:47] <jtaji> cell0: the read part isn't going to be at all possible on modern distros.. most use relatime on your disks to disable writing read access time to disk
[09:47] <Rajasun> indus: that was meant to be a poke on a well known OS
[09:47] <indus> jussi01: its kinda support forthose who aer fed up with firefox
[09:47] <jtaji> cell0: you'd have to change that
[09:47] <indus> jussi01: so those who ask ff questions in here, iam gonna send them to that link :D
[09:47] <kr_ubuntu> jtaji, yes it not there in /etc/group
[09:48] <kr_ubuntu> jtaji, so i am do some setting for this
[09:48] <albech> isnt chrome just a wine emulation of the windows version, still?
[09:48] <cell0> jtaji: But isn't there a way to determine which file is ACCESSES the most?
[09:48] <indus> iam downloading it now
[09:48] <Rajasun> indus: i.e. their software lock-in, their behavior, attitude, way of doing things
[09:48] <jussi01> indus: no, it isnt. unless someone comes in and asks, What are the firefox alternatives, I need a new browser". further discussion on what is support and what isnt please join us in #ubuntu-ops
[09:48] <DASPRiD> cell0, i bet it's /dev/null ;)
[09:48] <om26er> albech: wow
[09:48] <Rajasun> albech:nope
[09:49] <indus> jussi01: also what is free speech?
[09:49] <jussi01> indus: move on.
[09:49] <albech> well forgive me i havent tried it on my linux box.. i wasnt too impressed on the windows
[09:49] <indus> jussi01: yes lets
[09:49] <jtaji> lol free speech in a private channel
[09:49] <jtaji> cell0: not if read access times aren't recorded
[09:49] <indus> foss :) free and open source speech
[09:49] <cell0> DASPRiD: I'm not that much of a noob
[09:50] <DASPRiD> cell0, wasn't meant like that :)
[09:50] <indus> Daemonis: tried kino and cinerella
[09:50] <indus> !info kino
[09:50] <DASPRiD> did you know that "kino" is the russian word for "movie"?
[09:50] <cell0> jtaji: I've got relatime set in fstab. Now how do i access this info?
[09:50] <om26er> !ot | DASPRiD
[09:51] <Rajasun> albech: it is a well-known fact that Canonical i.e. the company behind Ubuntu have been extending "engineering assistance" to Google in the development of their Chrome OS. Google for it.
[09:51] <indus> DASPRiD: nice info thanks
[09:52] <om26er> is there a way to use network-manager in lxde session? no wicd.
[09:53] <Rajasun> albech: See http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3436052937.html
[09:53] <indus> Rajasun: is your name rajasundaram
[09:54] <Daemonis> Okay another question... are there any programs out there that let you create your own Ubuntu themes?
[09:54] <ranjan> Hello every body can any body can tell me how to install sound theme in ubuntu 9.10
[09:55] <Rajasun> indus: nope. It is a sarcastic mock on some previously 2002 and now 2012 domdayers. Hint: google zetatalk, nibiru. Been using it for years.
[09:55] <Rajasun> ;)
[09:55] <albech> Rajasun, i was actually referring to the browser, but I might have misunderstood the conversation. I am well aware that Chrome OS is based on Debian..
[09:55] <jtaji> cell0: relatime only changes access time if the last access time is older than the last write time.. so it's not at all accurate
[09:55] <mgv1> albech, to first expirience the program voice chat
[09:55] <indus> Daemonis: well, theme is a collecition of diff things like an icon set, the window appearance etc
[09:55] <Kalessin> Hello, I have a trivial question, but I don't find the answer : I'm running karmic koala with gnome and al. How do I boot in single user mode ?
[09:55] <Rajasun> albech: specifically Ubuntu
[09:55] <jtaji> cell0: but I mean you can use find to sort files by last access... not sure how you can collect statistical data though
[09:55] <indus> Daemonis: so for icons , you can use inkscape , for other things you should ask  someone here :)
[09:56] <om26er> ranjan: here is an example sound theme package for karmic. sudo apt-get install sound-theme-freedesktop
[09:56] <Daemonis> Ah, okay. Thanks ;)
[09:56] <indus> !inkscape
[09:56] <indus> Daemonis: many ubuntu theme icons are made using unkscape
[09:56] <kraut> does anybody know, why my ubuntu means while it's booting, the raid is degraded, but after the boot  everything is fine?
[09:57] <Daemonis> Would you be able to use something like GIMP to do it too?
[09:57] <nibbler> kraut, what is in /proc/mdstat (or was it mdstats?)
[09:57] <indus> Daemonis: gimp is mainly for photo editing but probably yes
[09:57] <DASPRiD> Daemonis, but then, with gimp you can only create pixel-icons, not vector-icons
[09:57] <virtuald> kalessin: if you don't get a grub menu, press escape for the old grub or shift for grub 2 to get there
[09:58] <Rajasun> albech: it may be on their offficial blog...I'm too lazy to dig that page up, go google for itI recall going through the changelog, lots of linux code changes mentioned. Chrome ain't emulation software but Google Chrome for Debian/Ubuntu/FC are native Linux apps.
[09:58] <kraut> nibbler: http://pastebin.com/m25ea3057
[09:58] <Rajasun> app*
[09:58] <indus> Daemonis: gimp is raster graphics , inkscape is vector, so icons is good with it,you can scale up or down without losing definition
[09:58] <ardchoille> Thank you Flannel
[09:58] <indus> Daemonis: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Create-Your-Own-Sexylicious-Ubuntu-Desktop-80189.shtml
[09:58] <Tina-> why are all grub2 splashes so that you cant read the txt anymore :s
[09:59] <Deiz> Any of you have the malicious .deb from gnome-look handy?
[09:59] <a2f> anyone aware of any good monitor tuning software for linux?
[09:59] <naoshige> hi
[09:59] <naoshige> does ubuntu have its own built-in ftpd (like FreeBSD)?
[09:59] <kathleen> a2f: to monitor what?
[09:59] <indus> Daemonis: then there are gtk tools like widget factory etc
[09:59] <Flannel> naoshige: No, but you can install one easily enough
[09:59] <pj> how can I set the task bar icons to group in Karmic like they used to in older ubuntu versions?
[10:00] <naoshige> Flannel: but then it's like which one do I install
[10:00] <naoshige> and i have to do research
[10:00] <ravigehlot> Hey everyone...my laptop makes an annoying sound as I use it. It turned down the volume but it still acts up like that. The laptop brand/model is SONY PCG-GRT390ZP
[10:00] <naoshige> ask people, get into flame wars
[10:00] <Deiz> naoshige: vsftpd is quite popular
[10:00] <a2f> kathleen, haha i meant LCD monitor :)
[10:00] <naoshige> Deiz: yeah that one is pretty hot
[10:00] <Flannel> naoshige: I suggest ditching ftp, and going with sftp
[10:00] <a2f> kathleen, something to get the colors right
[10:00] <bishops> hello i have this problem, i was trying to install wicd for my internet connection on ubuntu, so it removed the gnome default one, and then it stopped downloading because there wasn't any internet software to connect me. How can I re-install an internet program without being connected?
[10:00] <naoshige> Flannel: good idea
[10:00] <nibbler> kraut, if you recently rebooted, it seems to be ok - after reboot it sould not talk about "rebuilding" there... do you have differnt harddisk controllers in use? maybe one is found at boot time, and one later?
[10:00] <Flannel> naoshige: Unless you need ftp for compatability reasons.
[10:00] <naoshige> sshd is already running
[10:00] <Tina-> is there a way to get the full source of the unr netbookstarter app?
[10:00] <Flannel> naoshige: Then you're already all set up
[10:00] <indus> Daemonis: check the gnome dev site for metacity themes
[10:00] <naoshige> not really I just need to upload some code
[10:00] <cell0> jtaji: do you know the command?
[10:01]  * Tina- wants to 'steal' it
[10:01] <plouffe> I just upgraded to Karmic Koala and now I can't boot into Ubuntu
[10:01] <adac> Could someone post me his .bashrc file? After every newstart my history is gone :(
[10:01] <Flannel> Tina-: Do you know what package it is?
[10:01] <Daemonis> okay. thanks.
[10:01] <om26er> bishops: reboot and connect ethernet cable for internet
[10:01] <Tina-> Flannel: second
[10:01] <kathleen> a2f: ah.. shoudl be but i've never used any. i defer to others' wisdom
[10:01] <_vbu> *all: i am trying run a kind of scary app on linux and linux kernel panics after sometime. Does linux kernel create core files to debug.
[10:02] <plouffe> I just upgraded to Karmic Koala and now I can't boot into Ubuntu
[10:02] <bishops> om26er: it does not even see an ethernet connection!
[10:02] <Tina-> netbook-launcher it is
[10:02] <adac> Thius is mine by the way: http://pastie.org/737028
[10:02] <kraut> nibbler: it's everytime and it's only one controller
[10:02] <plouffe> I just upgraded to Karmic Koala and now I can't boot into Ubuntu
[10:02] <kraut> nibbler: just two sata disks on one sata-controller
[10:02] <om26er> bishops: reboot.?
[10:03] <Daemonis> Have you tried the rescue my system option on the cd, plouffe?
[10:03] <indus> Daemonis: some thing more http://developer.gnome.org/doc/tutorials/metacity/metacity-themes.html
[10:03] <om26er> !repeat | plouffe
[10:03] <kraut> nibbler: it only boots automatically, if i do bootdegraded=true
[10:03] <indus> plouffe: try recovery mode
[10:03] <kraut> nibbler: that happens after i upgraded to 9.10
[10:03] <indus> plouffe: from grub boot menu
[10:04] <artscience> alright the saga continues..I'm so close I can taste it
[10:04] <Tina-> is it always that hard when you do a dist-upgrade, seems lot of ppl having issues?
[10:04] <nibbler> kraut, well, if you tell him to boot degraded, i am not suprised your raid is degraded during boot. the question would be then, what happens if you dont boot degraded on cammand?
[10:04] <frogzoo> Tina-: I upgraded to koala without any issues
[10:04] <Tina-> or do they just lack enough common senseµ,
[10:04] <artscience> for those of you just tuning in I'm setting up a triple boot system on my intel macbook
[10:04] <Tina-> :x
[10:05] <plouffe> indus how do I get into the grub boot menu?
[10:05] <frogzoo> Tina-: some upgrades broke horribly, but that was a long time back
[10:05] <frogzoo> Tina-: usually even if it's not 100%, it's fixable these days
[10:05] <pj> anyone?  it seems like my task bar icons won't group in Karmic anymore, anyone know if there's a setting to get them to group again?
[10:05] <indus> plouffe: if you dont, press esc multiple times to see boot menu
[10:05] <Tina-> frogzoo: k , i hope so ;)
[10:05] <kraut> nibbler: it asks me, if i want to boot in degraded mode or not, but when i do this, everything is fine as you could see in /proc/mdstat
[10:05] <artscience> I reinstalled ubuntu this time with the boot loader installed onto the partition and rEFIt now recognizes it hooray!
[10:06] <Rajasun> Tina: It depends. e.g. If you have installed some 3rd party unsupported software on your system, support for some hardware may also have been dropped in the new release (always check the release announcement and related), and then there is the user.
[10:06] <weijia> im installed google chrome ,so good
[10:06] <nibbler> kraut, what happens if you dont do that?
[10:06] <adac> Anyone??
[10:06] <artscience> however it doesn't boot up without the live cd and even then it just goes to the live cd
[10:06] <kraut> i shall rebuild it, didn't tested that much
[10:07] <Guest73746> cool
[10:08] <puddu> !list
[10:08] <puddu> !addon
[10:09] <artscience> ok here's the message I get when I try to boot ubuntu from the harddrive: "No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key"
[10:09] <Tina-> ppl still use irc to find software 8), how retarded is that lol
[10:09] <bishops1> Om3Ddragon: i rebooted and still no sign of ethernet connection
[10:09] <kraut> nibbler: anyhow i think there is no reason to rebuild is, since everything is fine if the boot has finished...
[10:09] <Grizz_> how do I find the FAQ's please?
[10:09] <indus> artscience: Thats a HDD issue , check if its detected in bis
[10:09] <Kvist> !bot
[10:09] <indus> bios
[10:09] <Gnea> Tina-: it's about as retarded as pointing out how retarded it is
[10:09] <artscience> bis?
[10:10] <artscience> oh bios
[10:10] <artscience> hahaha
[10:10] <Tina-> no doubt about me being retarded
[10:10] <TcN> i need some help
[10:10] <Gnea> wiyh?
[10:10] <artscience> Indus: this is a macbook
[10:10] <TcN> i've just installed ncat by decompressing tarball
[10:10] <Gnea> with?
[10:10] <Daemonis> artscience, i've had that problem before. it's usually fixed when you fix the mbr
[10:10] <TcN> ./configure, make, and sudo make install
[10:10] <indus> artscience: hmm
[10:10] <TcN> but it doesn't work
[10:11] <TcN> any suggest?
[10:11] <Gnea> you're supposed to install ncat from the repo
[10:11] <shinichineko> !flash
[10:11] <ardchoille> !info ncat
[10:11] <artscience> Daemonis: lol I'm not using mbr.., I'm using GUID
[10:11] <albech> can anyone recommend a good sound editor?
[10:11] <ardchoille> Gnea: ^^
[10:11] <TcN> Gnea repo from apt-get ?
[10:11] <Gnea> !find ncat
[10:11] <artscience> albech: audacity
[10:11] <Daemonis> GUID?
[10:11] <Tina-> albech: ardour
[10:11] <remoteCTRL> is ther a way to influence the cpu throttling in ubuntu? like the "desktop", "battery", "presentation", etc power saving schemes in windows?
[10:12] <Gnea> ardchoille: did I say that it was the package name? no.
[10:12] <artscience> ardour is for multi-track recording
[10:12] <Rajasun> albech: Take your pick from apt-cache search sound editor
[10:12] <artscience> not sound editing
[10:12] <ardchoille> Gnea: calm down please, you don't need to prove anything to anyone
[10:12] <Mesdag> I'm having a weird issue with my nvidia/monitor setup using the 185.x drivers. My second monitor is not receiving a signal but it is recognized by nvidia-settings. Anybody knows what is up?
[10:12] <bishops1> i was downloading wicd and as it removed my gnome default wireless program, i was without internet. now the ethernet does not work either.
[10:12] <Gnea> ardchoille: pardon?
[10:12] <bishops1> can someone help?
[10:13] <artscience> Daemonis GUID is the weird hybrid dealio
[10:13] <kr_ubuntu> while adding a group in ldap i am getting an error that "Error adding group "qa" to LDAP
[10:13] <Daemonis> bishops1 there is a way to install a package straight from the ubuntu cd but i wouldn't know about how to go about it
[10:13] <Mesdag> Trying to get Twinview working again after upgrading to Karmic,
[10:13] <kr_ubuntu> what it suppose to mean
[10:13] <Tina-> remoteCTRL: maybe cpufreq-selector is what you want?
[10:13] <nibbler> bishops: sudo dhclient eth0 should bring your network up, and then reinstall network manager?
[10:14] <bishops1> nibbler: thanks will try that
[10:14] <remoteCTRL> Tina-: sounds promising, is that a panel applet ot a graphical app or a cli app?
[10:14] <artscience>  I feel like this should be a quick fix
[10:14] <Tina-> bishops1: wicd should be able to connect to lan too , here it does
[10:14] <Psinetic> why is it that when i use opera browser all images come up fuzzy?
[10:14] <Grizz_> Hi all, I installed the latest system updates today, rebooted nd now Ubuntu will not load
[10:14] <Gnea> odd, I didn't realize ncat was pulled from the repository
[10:14] <Tina-> remoteCTRL: it is a termiunal app but there is a gnome applet too
[10:14] <ardchoille> Gnea: ;)
[10:15]  * Tina- cant type :o
[10:15] <remoteCTRL> Tina-: nice! thanks alot!
[10:15] <Grizz_> I have a screen with the prompt sh :grub>
[10:15] <Grizz_> can anyone tell me what to type now please?
[10:15] <Gnea> that's pretty silly, why take out ncat? oh well, at the rate the developers are gutting it, it's probably just going to go downhill
[10:15] <artscience> Psinetic: I had that problem with opera too...I stopped using it and have gone back to firefox
[10:15] <artscience> anyone ever use "blackbird"
[10:16] <artscience> http://www.blackbirdbrowser.com
[10:16] <Psinetic> artscience, but firefox is giving me some serious problems right now too that i can't isolate or figure out what is causing it.
[10:16] <Gnea> ardchoille: yeah, sorry, didn't realize that they were taking common sense away
[10:16] <Tina-> remoteCTRL: try cpufreq-selector -g ondemand , that will adapt the freq to usage
[10:16] <remoteCTRL> Tina-: ya that is really nice! thanks alot!:)
[10:16] <artscience> Psinetic: well there's always ol' faithful aka ie6 ;)
[10:17] <ardchoille> Gnea: Yeah, the content of the repos can change from time to time. This is why I wanted to become a packager :)
[10:17] <Psinetic> on ubuntu?
[10:17] <Psinetic> screw that
[10:17] <Psinetic> die
[10:17] <Psinetic> lol
[10:17] <FloodBot1> Psinetic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:17] <Psinetic> >_>
[10:17] <artscience> lol
[10:17] <Tina-> ^^
[10:17] <Psinetic> how exactly DO you use "enter" as punctuation?
[10:18] <Kvist> doing
[10:18] <artscience> like you just did
[10:18] <Kvist> this
[10:18] <shinichineko> Well
[10:18] <shinichineko> It's kind of
[10:18] <shinichineko> Complicated.
[10:18] <ardchoille> Please stop
[10:18] <Psinetic> hmmmmmm
[10:18] <artscience> lol
[10:18] <Psinetic> lol
[10:18] <Psinetic> ok ok i get it
[10:18] <bishops2> nibbler: thanks it worked!
[10:19] <nibbler> bishops2, good the hear. welcome
[10:19] <Tina-> i think ppl who type faster then they can think do that
[10:19] <Gnea> !info netcat-traditional
[10:19] <Gnea> TcN: ^^^
[10:19] <CaptainPissweak> Umm... Hi.
[10:19] <macsim> hi, is it possible to manage the limit for shortcut on the Shortcut entry (Applications Shortcut ...) ?
[10:19] <artscience> http://wiki.onmac.net/index.php/Triple_Boot_via_BootCamp
[10:19] <newtoubuntu2> bhavi still here?
[10:19] <artscience> I've taken a slightly different route then this fellow
[10:20] <Kvist> maybe they think faster than they can type :P
[10:20] <artscience> and it may be a little out of date
[10:20] <Psinetic> Tina-, i often find myself in an oposite situation, i think faster than i can type and end up like...wtc...
[10:20] <bullgard> [Karmic] What is the name of the notification symbol in the  notification area which looks like as a loudspeaker symbol?
[10:20] <CaptainPissweak> I'm about to install Ubuntu for the first time, and I was hoping you people would be able to answer some questions...
[10:20] <rolandweb> Hello to all, does anyone manage to instal Mozilla Thunderbird on Ubuntu 9.10
[10:20] <Grizz_> how do I load the kernel from the prompt sh: grub> please??
[10:20] <ardchoille> rolandweb: It's not in the repos?
[10:21] <ardchoille> !info thunderbird | rolandweb
[10:21] <Gnea> !grub | Grizz_
[10:21] <rolandweb> sorry, Moz Thund 3
[10:21] <naoshige> anybody had problems installing RUBY GEMS on ubuntu?
[10:21] <newtoubuntu2> khensthoth: i decided to get off my ass and took my laptop to the ether plug and was able to find drivers for it. installing now.
[10:21] <tilt> Grizz_: type "kernel (hd0,0)/" and then press <tab>
[10:21] <ardchoille> rolandweb: Ah, ok, you will need to find a ppa
[10:21] <naoshige> ERROR:  While executing gem ... (Gem::GemNotFoundException)
[10:21] <artscience> in the walkthrough on the link I posted he uses LILO to boot into linux
[10:21] <bullgard> !ask | CaptainMorgan
[10:21] <artscience> I've always used grub and don't know anything about lilo but I've heard it's a pain
[10:21] <ardchoille> rolandweb: Try searching here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[10:22] <Tina-> Grizz_: type root (hdx,x) ; kernel /boot/imagelinux root=/dev/sdx ; initrd yourinitrd
[10:22] <Grizz_> ubottu: thanks
[10:22] <ardchoille> that bot is almost human
[10:22] <rolandweb> ardchoille: tx for help
[10:22] <ardchoille> rolandweb: you're welcome
[10:22] <Tina-> !stab ubottu
[10:22] <Gnea> one might think it can read
[10:23] <Tina-> nah it does not bleed
[10:23] <artscience> yeah at what point did it become self-aware?
[10:23] <artscience> and furthermore when is it going to become skynet?
[10:23] <naoshige> apt-get REINSTALL doesn't work?
[10:23] <Grizz_> this has happened after I installed the latest updates - is there a problem with them?
[10:24] <Gnea> we're gonna skip the fake stuff and just go straight to planetnet ;)
[10:24] <naoshige> apt-get uninstall rubygems
[10:24] <naoshige> E: Invalid operation uninstall
[10:24] <naoshige> wtf is that
[10:24] <Gnea> remove
[10:24] <ardchoille> naoshige: Did you use sudo?
[10:24] <naoshige> apt-get deinstall rubygems
[10:24] <jussi01> naoshige: remove
[10:24] <naoshige> E: Invalid operation deinstall
[10:24] <naoshige> damn
[10:24] <naoshige> how am i suppose it is remove
[10:24] <Gnea> !language | naoshige
[10:25] <naoshige> or not delete, or rm etc.
[10:25] <jussi01> naoshige: read the manual page?
[10:25] <ardchoille> naoshige: try remove
[10:25] <Gnea> naoshige: try typing apt-get by itself
[10:25] <naoshige> It would be nice to see y'all put in some aliases
[10:25] <naoshige> so that all of those combinations will work
[10:25] <Gnea> naoshige: it's open source, do it yourself and submit a patch
[10:25] <Gnea> naoshige: that's how it works
[10:25] <ardchoille> naoshige: you can set all the bash aliases  you want
[10:25] <naoshige> yeah that is true
[10:25] <naoshige> thank you my friends
[10:26] <tilt> alias alias=rm
[10:26] <tilt> :))
[10:26] <Gnea> hmmm
[10:27] <artscience> ubottu: I love you
[10:27] <albech> tilt, careful with those kind of ideas even if they are just for fun..
[10:27] <geirha> naoshige: apt-get <tab><tab>
[10:27] <Tina-> tilt: changing ls to rm on someones box can be fun :o
[10:28] <Gnea> Tina-: only if you enjoy welcoming pain and suffering upon yourself :)
[10:28] <tilt> Tina-: sometimes it is the only way to have more diskspace!
[10:30] <artscience> ARGH!
[10:30] <jozefk> ubuntu mailing list, can I send HTML messages there or only plain text?
[10:30] <Kvist> ubottu: Gnome
[10:31] <Flannel> jozefk: plain text is best.
[10:31] <artscience> ubottu: No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key
[10:31] <artscience> worth a try
[10:31] <perith> what resources are there to teach me how to secure my fresh installed ubuntu 9.10? i just updated the basic stuff as well.
[10:32] <jozefk> yeah i like it too but my email didn't go through this morning. now I resent it and everything is alright. strange
[10:32] <shinichineko> Arghhh. Help. I'm trying to update to Flash Player 10 and I can't cd to the right directory, or something else is going wrong with the tar
[10:32] <Kvist> ubottu: sudo
[10:32] <naoshige> Hi
[10:32] <tilt> perith: iptables -A INPUT -j REJECT
[10:32] <ardchoille> perith: I just blogged about that: http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/12/computer-security-is-process-not.html
[10:32] <macsim> hi, is it possible to manage the shortcut limit on the Application Shorcut System menu ? I means if I add more shortcut with music my docs etc... all the shortcut go in a single entry
[10:32] <tilt> perith: et voilá :)
[10:32] <Tina-> artscience: your grub is br0ke?
[10:32] <naoshige> I just did n "apt-get install rubygems" and it installed an ancient version of rubygems - what do I do?
[10:33] <Gnea> tilt: don't.
[10:33] <perith> tilt: sorry, wha? french?
[10:33] <BadOkami> @tilt alt-f4 2 u .. that will block all inbound traffic
[10:34] <artscience> Tina-: or something like that
[10:34] <Daemonis> "sudo apt-get remove rubygems"? lol
[10:34] <Kvist> ubottu: rubygems
[10:34] <Tina-> artscience: try a livecd and do a grub-install
[10:34] <ardchoille> !ops | tilt giving malicious advice
[10:34] <tilt> .o(I must flee!)
[10:34] <ikonia> tilt: stop now
[10:35] <artscience> Tina-: is there a way to JUST install grub from the live cd? how?
[10:35] <Gnea> tilt: there is no escape
[10:35] <c0p3rn1c> World-writable config file '/etc/mysql/my.cnf' is ignored, it's because I made a network share of /etc/mysql
[10:35] <c0p3rn1c>  I can't seem to undo it :s
[10:35] <artscience> Tina-: bear in mind this is an intrepid 8.10 live cd
[10:35] <Flannel> perith: Don't do that, by the way.
[10:35] <perith> flannel: yea, i got that...
[10:35] <Flannel> perith: Good, good.  Wanted to make sure :)
[10:36] <ardchoille> I should have hit the other trigger too
[10:36] <Tina-> artscience: open terminal enter grup-install , maybe read the man first ;) but grub-install /dev/sdx should be fine
[10:36] <pj> anyone?  it seems like my task bar icons won't group in Karmic anymore, anyone know if there's a setting to get them to group again?
[10:36] <BadOkami> #perith You might want to start with "sudo ufw enable" that will turn on a basic firefall
[10:36] <perith> flannel: ok, i'll do some searches and whatnot to get up to date
[10:36] <naoshige> I just did n "apt-get install rubygems" and it installed an ancient version of rubygems - what do I do?
[10:36] <naoshige> Aren't the apt-get packages up to date?
[10:36] <geirha> naoshige: Are you sure you need the absolute latest version?
[10:36] <naoshige> Yes ofcourse
[10:36] <BadOkami> s/firefall/firewall :-)
[10:36] <perith> badokami: thanks!
[10:37] <furuno> naoshige: not all package is up to date
[10:37] <shinichineko> Help? I followed the instructions for updating flash on the page (from !flash) but I messed up somehow.
[10:37] <Daemonis> have you tried right clicking the little place to the left of the window viewer and going to preferences, pj?
[10:37] <naoshige> the current version doesn't work any longer
[10:37] <furuno> naoshige: maybe try manual install instead
[10:37] <Tina-> naoshige: well then ubuntu is not for you i guess :x
[10:37] <naoshige> yeah
[10:37] <Daemonis> That is, if your talking about the windows grouping
[10:37] <naoshige> I'm using Slicehost, i've been asking them again and again to install FreeBSD
[10:37] <naoshige> but it's just not on the top of their list
[10:37] <pj> Daemonis: that was it, thanks :-)
[10:37] <BadOkami> speaking of ufw, does anyone know why that's not enabled by default?
[10:37] <Rajasun> naoshige: or scour launchpad's ppas
[10:38] <pj> Daemonis: it would seem that the default in Karmic is to not group windows, but in older versions it always grouped them for me.
[10:38] <Gnea> Tina-: is tilted your friend?
[10:38] <geirha> naoshige: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails
[10:39] <Tina-> Gnea: hu? , i have no friens :o
[10:39] <Tina-> *friends
[10:39] <shinichineko> Is it rude to keep asking for help if no-one responds? I mean, it's a big channel. :s
[10:39] <Kvist> ubottu: Friends
[10:40] <ardchoille> shinichineko: not at all, as long as you don't repeat too often
[10:40] <bdfoster> !patience | shinichineko
[10:40] <Gnea> !repeat
[10:40] <Daemonis> shinichineko are you using 64 bit?
[10:40] <shinichineko> Daemonis: I don't know, how could I tell?
[10:40] <lars_bauer> Hey i have 2 harddisk, but only one off them is mounted at boot time. How do i install the 2. harddisk ?
[10:40] <ardchoille> !fstab | lars_bauer
[10:40] <Tina-> shinichineko: if ppl start saying shut up you reached the limit :p
[10:40] <furuno> shinichineko: use uname -a and read the output
[10:40] <theadmin> wtf. I just had a kernel update, yet I still have just one kernel.
[10:41] <shinichineko> Tina-: So noted.
[10:41] <Daemonis> Well shinichineko if you're talking about flash for firefox, in 32 bit it is very easy to install but its pretty difficult in 64 bit
[10:41] <furuno> lars_bauer: you can mount them manually using nautilus (the file manager), or automatically by editing the /etc/fstab file
[10:41] <shinichineko> I'm just trying to play my games ;_;. furuno: I can't make sense of this.
[10:41] <theadmin> shinichineko: to install it just use the "flashplugin-installer" package
[10:41] <theadmin> shinichineko: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[10:41] <gypsymauro> hi
[10:41] <artscience> Tina-: just to be clear this is only going to install grub to that partition right? I don't want any funny stuff with it attempting to rewrite the partition table
[10:41] <Daemonis> does that work in 64 bit too theadmin?
[10:41] <furuno> shinichineko: open up terminal, and type "uname -a" if there's "i686" in the output then you're on  32 bit
[10:42] <Jimi_Neutral> anyone know how to change thunderbird so that when i reply to a mail my reply goes to the top of the mail not the bottom?
[10:42] <theadmin> Daemonis: Guess so... I never tried
[10:42] <Tina-> Daemonis: is that true? , in gentoo there is a 64bit flash
[10:42] <shinichineko> theadmin: That's an invalid operation. furuno: Ah, I'm 32 bit then.
[10:42] <Tina-> artscience: no it only installs grub
[10:42] <gypsymauro> I'm trying to print with firefox on file (pdf or ps) but it doesn't generates the file... any hint?
[10:42] <ardchoille> Jimi_Neutral: I just configured that, hold on
[10:42] <Kalessin> Hold down SHIFT to display the menu during boot (formerly ESC in GRUB legacy).
[10:42] <Kalessin> well
[10:42] <Jimi_Neutral> ardchoille, nice timing :)
[10:43] <c0p3rn1c> World-writable config file '/etc/mysql/my.cnf' is ignored, it's because I made a network share of /etc/mysql and I can't undo it, any idea how ?
[10:43] <shinichineko> Mainly I want to know; I tried installing from the tar from Adobe's site, and according to !flash I should 'cd install_flash_player_10_linux/'. But that doesn't work. :s
[10:43] <abhilashm86> hi twitter people use twidge, a command line tool for sending tweets having all options.......
[10:43] <abhilashm86> in ubuntu
[10:43] <Daemonis> Tina: I'm pretty new to Ubuntu but I ended up reformatting and going from 32 bit from 64 bit because I had so much trouble installing flash. In 32 bit it was just a few clicks but in 64 bit it just wouldn't work.
[10:43] <macsim> is it possible to manage the limit before this append on ubuntu menu ( the thing in red) http://macsim.labolinux.net/upload/menu.png
[10:43] <theadmin> shinichineko: Well, for me the above command works smoothly. I just tried.
[10:44] <furuno> shinichineko: if you want flash, the easiest way is to type this in your terminal : sudo apt-get install flashlplugin-installer
[10:44] <Tina-> artscience: i have a grub.iso want me to ompload it?
[10:44] <ardchoille> Jimi_Neutral: yeah, ok, open Edit > Account Settings.. go to Composition and Addressing
[10:44] <shinichineko> theadmin and furuno: Ok, I'll try that again.
[10:44] <ardchoille> Jimi_Neutral: First drop-down menu under "Composition"
[10:44] <Tina-> it only is 700kB
[10:44] <furuno> shinichineko: I mean : sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[10:44] <shinichineko> Oh, oops - I copied the typo. :p
[10:44] <naoshige> geirha: it says
[10:45] <shinichineko> ...couldn't find package.
[10:45] <naoshige> as of july 27, 2009, rubygems 1.3.1 is installed via apt
[10:45] <Rajasun> theadmin: if all you had before was just the 2.6.31 kernel. This should be it. The upgrade was just a minor one. i.e. from 2.6.31-16.52 to 2.6.31-16.53
[10:45] <naoshige> but my version is 0.9.4
[10:45] <shinichineko> This is where everyone tells me to upgrade and I whine because I haven't got a good way to backup my files. Bah.
[10:45] <Jimi_Neutral> ardchoille, excellent, thanks dude
[10:45] <Tina-> Omploaded '/home/tina/grub.iso' to http://omploader.org/vMnlsbQ
[10:45] <geirha> naoshige: What ubuntu release are you running?
[10:45] <Kvist> ubottu: conduct
[10:45] <theadmin> shinichineko: Are you on Karmic, at least?
[10:45] <bullgard> [Karmic] What is the name of the notification symbol in the  notification area which looks like as a loudspeaker symbol?
[10:45] <ardchoille> Jimi_Neutral: You're welcome :)
[10:45] <naoshige> hold up
[10:45] <shinichineko> theadmin: Er, uh, well. No. Dapper Drake.
[10:45] <naoshige> geirha: Ubuntu 8.04.2 LTS (hardy)
[10:45] <Tina-> artscience: burn it and boot it and us the command line from grub to boot up your linux
[10:45] <furuno> shinichineko: try : "sudo apt-get update" before hand
[10:46] <theadmin> shinichineko: Oh, makes sense, most likely package is not there.
[10:46] <furuno> shinichineko: whoa that's ancient
[10:46] <shinichineko> Yeah, I was trying to get around that
[10:46] <furuno> shinichineko: how about the package "flashplugin-nonfree" ?
[10:46] <shinichineko> Well, Flash 9 worked, but not for the specific niggling thing I wanted.
[10:46] <ardchoille> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[10:46] <artscience> Tina-: everytime?
[10:46] <Kvist> ubottu: ping
[10:46] <naoshige> geirha: is that good or?
[10:47] <Daemonis> shinichineko: believe me if you went to 32 bit you would have no problem getting it, lol
[10:47] <shinichineko> I figured.
[10:47] <Tina-> artscience: no after you are in your ubuntu reinstall grub-pc and update-grub ;)
[10:47] <ardchoille> furuno: it's transitional, I think you need flashplugin-installer now
[10:47] <furuno> shinichineko: niggling?
[10:47] <ucenik07> fdjfg
[10:47] <ucenik07> lakdjkgj
[10:47] <ucenik07> hi
[10:47] <shinichineko> furuno: I believe it means 'small' with connotations of insignificance.
[10:48] <naoshige> Hello. I'm on
[10:48] <geirha> naoshige: That comment applies for 9.04. The wiki-page explains how to install 1.3.1 manually on 8.04
[10:48] <furuno> shinichineko: i see, i tought that was a jargon for an effect or so :D
[10:48] <naoshige> err
[10:48] <artscience> Tina-: do you know what I'm doing here? do you know my 'special' circumstances?
[10:48] <Tina-> artscience: use the tab key in the grub command line to autocomplet/find the kernel names etc...
[10:48] <shinichineko> furuno: Nah, I'm not good enough to know any jargon. :p
[10:48] <shinichineko> !upgrade
[10:48] <naoshige> geirha: I don't understand what you mean
[10:48] <Tina-> artscience: no i have no glass ball :p
[10:49] <artscience> Tina-: I'm using a GUID partition table on a macbook
[10:49] <naoshige> The wiki says rubygems 1.3.1 is available via apt but I'm getting 0.9.4
[10:49] <naoshige> Should I be running a more recent version of Ubuntu that perhaps uses a different package repository?
[10:49] <geirha> naoshige: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails#RubyGems%201.3.1%20Ubuntu%208.04
[10:49] <artscience> Tina-: I have already installed macosx and winxp with boot camp
[10:49] <shinichineko> So, can I ask this then; if I update my Ubuntu version, do I need to backup my files?
[10:49] <furuno> naoshige: try install the package "rubygems1.9.1" instead
[10:50] <Tina-> aw i dont know boot camp srry
[10:50] <shinichineko> (I'm aware that I -should- at any rate, but it'd be a rather large production'
[10:50] <furuno> naoshige: or 1.8
[10:50] <geirha> naoshige: Newer releases has newer versions, yes. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=rubygems&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[10:50]  * Tina- to poor for a mac :o
[10:50] <artscience> Tina-: I used ipartition to resize and create free space for ubuntu
[10:50] <artscience> Tina-: I got it second-hand at a discount ;)
[10:51] <naoshige> Is karmic a safe choice?
[10:51] <naoshige> if im running a production server
[10:51] <Tina-> artscience: and you installed it but cant boot ?
[10:51] <naoshige> production as in hosting real sites etc.
[10:51] <furuno> naoshige: hmm, I love 9.04 much better... altought now I'm on karmic (linux mint 8)
[10:51] <geirha> naoshige: You should stick to LTS for production
[10:51] <artscience> Tina-: I successfully installed ubuntu and it is recognized by rEFIt and the boot loader should be installed to the partition
[10:51] <naoshige> ah ok
[10:51] <naoshige> thanks geirha
[10:52] <naoshige> and furuno
[10:52] <furuno> naoshige: LTS should be better tought...
[10:52] <Tina-> artscience: maybe install grub to none MBR and make a line in bootcamp to load the grub
[10:52] <artscience> Tina-: which bringsme to the problem I have now
[10:52] <geirha> naoshige: Next LTS will be coming in about 4 months. You can then upgrade directly to that.
[10:52] <shinichineko> Ok, well, I think I'm going to have to upgrade. Thanks for the help furuno, theadmin, Tina-, Daemonis, and anyone else I lost in the text scroll.
[10:52] <Daemonis> What version will the LTS be?
[10:52] <Rajasun> yeah flashplugin-nonfree is a transitional dummy package that can be removed once you have its replacement flashplugin-installer insatlled. I always make it a habit to do both dpkg -l|grep transit and dpkg -l|grep dummy every month or so to purge the system of these cruft. But be warned not every dummy, transitional package can be purged. As to why, maybe the package maintainers to these packages in question are in a better position to p
[10:52] <Rajasun> rovide an answer. ;)
[10:52] <furuno> Daemonis: current: 8.04 LTS
[10:53] <furuno> Daemonis: upcoming: 11.04 LTS
[10:53] <Daemonis> Oh. Neat.
[10:53] <Tina-> quassel ftw , unlimited scroll :)
[10:53] <geirha> Make that 10.04 :P
[10:53] <disappearedng> Hey if I create a ssh account for my friend, what can he access by default
[10:53] <furuno> geirha: ah :D
[10:53] <artscience> Tina-: "making a line" in bootcamp is out of the question it's waaaayyy to user-friendly to the point where it won't even let me make multiple partitions for mac or windows
[10:54] <artscience> Tina-: that's what the ipartition is for;)
[10:54] <Tina-> artscience: :(
[10:54] <artscience> ;)
[10:54] <Tina-> :)
[10:54] <furuno> iDon'tKnow
[10:54] <Tina-> bbl all
[10:55] <artscience> I can access the installed partition from live
[10:55] <artscience> isn't there something I can check or do there?
[10:56] <furuno> hmm I wonder if there's a dual-monitor utilitiy app like UltraMon?
[10:57] <furuno> ...
[10:58] <enoyhs> Hello!
[10:58] <artscience> well device.map seems like it's missing a few things
[10:58] <Guest47922> hi
[10:58] <artscience> shouldn't it list the partitions?
[10:59] <artscience> or just the physical drives?
[11:01] <sylock> hello
[11:01] <sylock> is it possible to do push mail with novell evolution mail client? (IDLE command)
[11:01] <enoyhs> Can someone please help me with Live CD customization?
[11:02] <radoe> /hide-boring
[11:02] <lars_bauer> How do i install a harddisc. How do i find and for it ?
[11:02] <Flannel> enoyhs: Have you seen this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[11:02] <lars_bauer> How do i install a harddisc. How do i find and format it ?
[11:03] <furuno> lars_bauer: huh? do you want to format a hard disk?
[11:03] <mike9494> yes lars_bauer tell us what you're trying to do
[11:04] <enoyhs> Flannel: Yeah... I ahve another problem
[11:04] <kr_ubuntu> when i trying to execute "sudo auth-client-config -a -p lac_ldap" i am getting this error:Error in updating the file: 'pam_account' not found
[11:04] <kr_ubuntu> what is the problem here?
[11:04] <enoyhs> I need to automatically make a folder on Deskop once I login in LiveCD
[11:05] <enoyhs> Where could I do that?
[11:05] <lars_bauer> i have ubunt on at pc with two hardisc. I can only see one of them. Only one was setup at installation off ubuntu.
[11:05] <furuno> enoyhs: I don't think you can do that with LiveCD
[11:05] <furuno> enoyhs: you cannot change the content/configuration
[11:05] <futurama> who can help me about effect..?
[11:05] <furuno> enoyhs: unless you remaster it :D
[11:05] <futurama> in ubuntu 9.04..?
[11:05] <furuno> !ask | futurama
[11:05] <MenZa> lars_bauer: Could you join me in #ubuntu-dk? It looks like you may have some language barriers. I can help you in Danish there.
[11:06] <lars_bauer> i try to add the second harddisc to my filesystem so it is visibel after boot.
[11:06] <enoyhs> Hm... Maybe there is some way to make a script that creates a folder after login
[11:06] <furuno> lars_bauer: you can install "pysdm" for this
[11:07] <furuno> enoyhs: yes of course, but not on the live cd, I believe
[11:07] <enoyhs> How is Example folder created on Deskop? Maybe I can edit that script...
[11:07] <isolat3dsh33p> enoyhs: you mean automatically mount drives?
[11:07] <enoyhs> no, no
[11:07] <MenZa> enoyhs: Creating a script run on login would be easy. I'm just curious why you'd want a script like that.
[11:07] <furuno> enoyhs: you mean, you want to remaster the cd?
[11:07] <enoyhs> I have a homework assigment and my task is to customize LiveCD
[11:07] <furuno> enoyhs: oh I see
[11:07] <MenZa> lars_bauer: Could you /join #ubuntu-dk ? :)
[11:08] <jrib> !remaster | enoyhs
[11:08] <dragonfist> Help me installing Ubuntu Studio. It fails when configuring ttf-mscorefonts-installer.
[11:08] <furuno> enoyhs: Arch Linux with larch might be better for this :D
[11:08] <rumpsy> what for ubuntu-dk channel
[11:08] <rumpsy> let him here itself
[11:08] <futurama> sorry. how can i make effect like fire when close browser..?
[11:08] <enoyhs> I needed to have some packages installed and stuff like. That was easy (Used uck), But creating folder on Deskop...
[11:08] <rumpsy> use beryl
[11:08] <furuno> futurama: do you have compiz-config settings manage rinstalled?
[11:09] <MenZa> rumpsy: I'm interested in helping him in the #ubuntu-dk channel. It seems he has a problem with the da-en language barrier, and I don't want to upset this channel by contributing in Danish.
[11:09] <rumpsy> or use compiz
[11:09] <rumpsy> okay..
[11:09] <radoe> /hide-boring
[11:09] <futurama> i have compiz, but look like it not use
[11:09] <furuno> futurama: have you installed the video driver?
[11:09] <enoyhs> ubottu: Already read first two links... Now looking into last one..
[11:10] <rumpsy> use appropriate video driver
[11:10] <futurama> how to install video driver..?
[11:10] <jayne> where does ubuntu set filehandle limits for non-root users? There's nothing in /etc/security/limits.conf.
[11:10] <furuno> futurama: what video card do you have?
[11:11] <futurama> i dont know, but i use Compaq CQ40..
[11:11] <enoyhs> MenZa: Where could I create script to run on login?
[11:11] <MenZa> enoyhs: /etc/profile.d/ I guess
[11:11] <furuno> futurama: hold on a sec...
[11:11] <MenZa> enoyhs: That'd run every login, though.
[11:12] <enoyhs> Oh.. profile.d
[11:12] <lars_bauer> ill try pysdm :)
[11:12] <enoyhs> I put it inside init.d
[11:12] <enoyhs> Ok I will try that
[11:13] <enoyhs> thanks :)
[11:13] <furuno> futurama: hmm it seems that you have an Intel GMA 4500MHD
[11:13] <Kartagis> what's the next version called?
[11:14] <ardchoille> Kartagis: Lucid Lynx
[11:14] <Kartagis> !karmic
[11:14] <Rajasun> Kartagis: Lucid
[11:14] <Kartagis> !lucid
[11:14] <puddu> file:///home/puddu/.xchat2/GlobalFind.mrc
[11:14] <futurama> now, what i must do..?
[11:14] <puddu> load file:///home/puddu/.xchat2/GlobalFind.mrc
[11:14] <furuno> futurama: can you enable desktop effects? Intel driver should be already bundled...
[11:15] <Vagrant> Hi guys. I've installed gnome-do and it works about 30 % of the time no problem. The other 70% on startup it doesn't work (it pops up but doesn't recognize the program I'm looking for) and uses up 100% of both processors. I normally just kill it and restart it but does anyone know easier ways?)
[11:15] <Rajasun> puddu: what are you trying to do?
[11:15] <futurama> u mean extra in dekstop effect  ..?
[11:15] <ardchoille> Rajasun: looks like he's tring to run a script in xcha
[11:15] <ardchoille> t
[11:15] <furuno> futurama: yes
[11:15] <Rajasun> archoille: ah heh ;)
[11:15] <futurama> i can select it..
[11:16] <lars_bauer> pysdm ? what i do in pysdm have no effect ?
[11:16] <furuno> futurama: if you can, then you need to install the "compiz config settings manager", to do this, open up terminal, and type in : "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager"
[11:17] <furuno> lars_bauer: with pysdm, you can configure you're hard disk mounting option without the need to modify /etc/fstab manually
[11:17] <researcher1> please guide me to boot .GRUB seems to have error but I have source CD
[11:18] <theom3ga> hi, I have just installed Ubuntu 9.10 in a computer. I needed to boot the live cd using noapic nolapic acpi=off. Now that it's installed, it doesnt boot, because it hasn't got those options in the grub. I'm trying to modify the grub cfg file from the live cd but it says that the file is read only
[11:19] <lars_bauer> furuno, should i reboot ? i have stated that it is ext3. Is formating in ext3 performed when i boot ?
[11:20] <lars_bauer> furuno, i found the disc now :-)
[11:20] <jhaley> Thanks to MS trying to undercut the competition it's cheaper to buy a netbook with XP and then install ubuntu on it than to buy with ubuntu pre-installed
[11:22] <psycho_oreos> because MS is greedy, case closed
[11:23] <frogzoo> well testing linux drivers is more expensive per seat
[11:23] <Daifan> on that topic, i have a problem with my sound driver, can someone help me?
[11:24] <jhaley> i had a sound driver problem..after trying a bunch of stuff I just did a fresh install
[11:25] <Daifan> this is a fresh install
[11:25] <psycho_oreos> probably a pulse daemon related issue
[11:25] <Daifan> except i dont have the desktop version
[11:26] <Daifan> i installed the "gnome for starter"
[11:26] <Daifan> and it is limited in packages
[11:27] <lcb> hii see this issue from several users but no conclusive answers. my usb keyboard and mouse are suddently having erratic behavior, not responding or too slow on keys and moves. i have no wireless devices connected or active at all, at this point. i'm writing this on console and pasting it here because on regular graphics i can't do it du to the problem. any suggestions to solve are appreciated.
[11:28] <lcb> 2.6.31-16-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 8 04:01:29 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:28] <researcher1> when I run the command fdisk -l no partition information is displayed. How do I go ahead in correcting GRUB?
[11:28] <ays> Daifan, if you download 9.10 desktop version and boot it first as a liveCD, you should be able to see if your SC is working properly and then do the complete, hdd install .. at least, imho
[11:28] <jrib> researcher1: try with sudo
[11:28] <researcher1> ok.jrib
[11:28] <ays> sudo fdisk -l
[11:28] <Daifan> I'm able to load alsa
[11:28] <ays> ah... jrib was faster :))
[11:28] <researcher1> thanks.it works
[11:28] <Daifan> and correctly identify my sound card
[11:29] <Daifan> but after that, i dont know how to get the package for the sound card...
[11:29] <RaJiL> hi
[11:29] <RaJiL> how increment screen resolution in ubuntu 9.10..
[11:30] <ays> Daifan, is it onboard audio or external? if its onboard, whats your motherboard?
[11:30] <researcher1> what does this mean? /dev/sda1   *           1        1344    10795648+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[11:30] <RaJiL> i have ati propietary driver
[11:30] <furuno> RaJiL: System > Preference > Display
[11:30] <Daifan> it is onboard, asus
[11:30] <furuno> RaJiL: make sure you have installed the driver correctly
[11:30] <jhaley> even amazon.com lists hp mini's with linux higher priced than windows. Hopefully their version of ubuntu will still work when i install it.
[11:30] <Daifan> my sound package should be snd-via82xx
[11:30] <RaJiL> furuno,  yes
[11:31] <RaJiL> compiz works
[11:31] <ays> researcher1, it means that you have boot partion on the hd0 or if you check in your bios that would be the primary first boot partion/hard disk
[11:31] <furuno> RaJiL: well driver should be all good then
[11:31] <psycho_oreos> researcher1,  the first partition on the first  detected storage device, bootable with 10+GB?
[11:31] <researcher1> thanks
[11:31] <RaJiL> but i have 1024x768
[11:31] <RaJiL> how max resolution
[11:32] <furuno> RaJiL: hmm, try typing "fglrxinfo" in the terminal and paste the result with the pastebin
[11:33] <RaJiL> furuno, http://paste.ubuntu.com/338619/
[11:34] <furuno> RaJiL: odd, what's you're monitor max res by the way? is there's no option in the display preference?
[11:34] <RaJiL> 1280x1024 is the max
[11:34] <furuno> RaJiL: that card make me remembers my old day :D
[11:35] <furuno> RaJiL: no option for 1280x1024?
[11:35] <RaJiL> no
[11:35] <furuno> RaJiL: how about from catalyst control center?
[11:36] <RaJiL> is the same, the mas is 1024x768
[11:36] <lcb> hi. i see this issue from several users but no conclusive answers. my usb keyboard and mouse are stridently having erratic behavior, not responding or too slow on keys and moves. i have no wireless devices connected or active at all, at this point. i'm writing this on console and pasting it here because on regular graphics i can't do it due to the problem. any suggestions to solve it are appreciated.
[11:36] <researcher1> But I saw these lines which confused me.  /dev/sda2  1345  30401  233400352+   5  Extended     /dev/sda5   1345   2013    5373711   83  Linux  /dev/sda6   29650  30401  6040408+  82  Linux swap / Solaris     /dev/sda7   2014   14171   97659103+  83  Linux  Partition table entries are not in disk order.Im trying to correct my grub with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows. Anything better than this?
[11:37] <enrique> hello. doing ssh user@server would not search the id_dsa that's in .ssh, I must specify -i to make it work...
[11:37] <Mendocino> allah akhbar brothaz
[11:37] <naoshige> allahu akbar
[11:37] <Mendocino> Insallah!
[11:37] <naoshige> god is great
[11:37] <MenZa> !offtopic
[11:37] <naoshige> love is great
[11:38] <Mendocino> ubuttu: please turn switch off now!
[11:38] <bazhang> Mendocino, please take chat elsewhere
[11:38] <Mendocino> ahh my good friend, bazhang bruder:D
[11:39] <Mendocino> hello sweetie:D
[11:39] <MenZa> Mendocino: Please stop.
[11:39] <RaJiL> furuno,  i exec , sudo amdcccle and see the same options for resolution
[11:41] <epinky> RaJiL: have you tried with envy?
[11:41] <RaJiL> epinky,  no
[11:41] <RaJiL> try?
[11:41] <Mendocino> MenZa brotha?
[11:41] <epinky> RaJiL: sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk envyng-core , if you want :)
[11:42] <MenZa> !envy | epinky
[11:42] <RaJiL> ok, thx
[11:42] <bazhang> Mendocino, if you don't remain on topic, you will be removed.
[11:42] <disappearedng__> Hey software sources's select best download server uses which ports? This keeps crashing my router, what do I do?
[11:42] <furuno> RaJiL: by following this guide at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide everything should be all good tought, always work for my HD 2400, 3650, 4350 and 4850
[11:42] <Mendocino> wtfm topic? how about ya?
[11:42] <anonmatir> he does not even know english
[11:42] <rahat_> hello everyone
[11:43] <furuno> anonmatir: what's english :D ?
[11:43] <furuno> !hi | rahat_
[11:43] <disappearedng> anyway anyone here knows what I mean?
[11:43] <bananasfordinner> hi
[11:43] <anonmatir> disappearedng: u r a adv bot from ghostPC
[11:43] <furuno> !hi | bananasfordinner
[11:44] <anonmatir> furuno: was reffering to that freek .. never mind
[11:44] <RaJiL> furuno,  thx
[11:44] <disappearedng> anonmatir? what?
[11:44] <furuno> I prefer mangoes tought ;)
[11:44] <bananasfordinner> I have a question: how to I get cupsd to launch on boot?
[11:44] <Mendocino> Holy Djihad started against the Hell of FuckBuntu:D
[11:44] <bananasfordinner> I have to sudo cupsd each time I restart the computer
[11:44] <bananasfordinner> One obvious workaround I can think of is just to gksudo cupsd to the user startup
[11:44] <furuno> bananasfordinner: Go to System > Pref > Startup Application and add it there
[11:44] <bananasfordinner> but that seems illogical.
[11:45] <bananasfordinner> @furuno:
[11:45] <bananasfordinner> I tried that, but the best I can do
[11:45] <bananasfordinner> is gksudo it
[11:45] <bananasfordinner> I don't want to have to type in a password
[11:45] <bananasfordinner> on each login to get my printer going, know what I mean?
[11:45] <bananasfordinner> In most peoples' installation cups launches automatically, right?
[11:46] <bananasfordinner> It doesn't make sense to me if I have to gksudo add it to the startup because my password is longer than typing sudo cupsd
[11:46] <bazhang> bananasfordinner, please put all on one line, it is hard to read when you use the enter key so much
[11:48] <bananasfordinner> Sorry about that. I'm paranoid about getting cut off by maxlength of message. Anyway: my problem is that cups is not launching on boot. Some things I've tried are to stick "gksudo cupsd" in the user startup, but that just seems like a dumb idea because i shouldn't have to type in a password every time I want to start up my printers.
[11:49] <erUSUL> bananasfordinner: try « sudo update-rc.d cups defaults »
[11:50] <Autie> has the ubuntu kernel his own patches?
[11:50] <bananasfordinner> ok just did
[11:50] <bananasfordinner> let me see if it works on restart.
[11:50] <bananasfordinner> Thanks!
[11:51] <researcher1> Im running LIVECD. How can I use root privileges? When I gave the command this is what happened ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount /dev/sda1 /media/root mount: only root can do that
[11:52] <Autie> researcher1: sudo
[11:52] <researcher1> ok
[11:52] <furuno> researcher1: add sudo
[11:52] <nperry> researcher1: sudo mount
[11:52] <bananasfordinner> I was unsuccessful
[11:52] <nperry> researcher1: Shouldnt ask for a password
[11:52] <researcher1> ok.
[11:53] <researcher1> nperry,furuno.Im doing it
[11:53] <nperry> researcher1: It always might complain if theres not a /mount/root :D
[11:53] <researcher1> ok
[11:54] <nperry> t/always/also
[11:55] <lividium> my laptop battery is not being recognized by ubuntu, is there anything  can do to troubleshoot/fix this problem?
[11:55] <nperry> lividium: What laptop do you have ?
[11:56] <lividium> I have a gateway
[11:56] <nperry> lividium: Model?
[11:56] <om26er> lividium: full name with model number
[11:56] <bullgard> [Karmic] What is the name of the notification symbol in the  notification area which looks like as an electric loudspeaker circuit symbol?
[11:56] <bananasfordinner> Hi guys, the reseting of my rc didn't do the trick in making cups start on default. The message I got was:
[11:56] <bananasfordinner> update-rc.d: warning: cups stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (1)
[11:56] <bananasfordinner>  System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/cups already exist.
[11:57] <furuno> bullgard: the volume control applet?
[11:57] <nperry> bullgard: Volume :s
[11:57] <lividium> it is a gateway lt3103u
[11:57] <nperry> lividium: Two minutes
[11:58] <furuno> nperry: make it three so I can make a cup noodle :D
[11:59] <nperry> lividium: Whats actually happening, are you having to run on power all the time - or doesnt it display the battery life?
[11:59] <bananasfordinner> So I'm still having trouble getting cups to run on boot. I've tried to run << sudo update-rc.d cups defaults >> but it says that the runlevel arguments ( 0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (1) and that the links already exist
[11:59] <rahat_> Is there any Internet messenger exists on which I can use my webcam (compatible with YIM and MSN)?
[11:59] <lividium> I am having to run on AC all the time
[11:59] <bullgard> furuno, nperry Perhaps my question was not clear enough. I meant: "[Karmic] What is the file name of the notification symbol in the notification area which looks like as an electric loudspeaker circuit symbol?
[12:00] <furuno> rahat_: Empathy?
[12:00] <nperry> lividium: What happens when you take the ac out?
[12:00] <lividium> the laptop abruptly turns off
[12:01] <researcher1> my UBUNTU 9.10 64 bit failed to boot after I installed & ran remastersys. Is this the right doc for me to restore GRUB with? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:01] <lcb> how can i force x.org recognizing and mapping keyboard and mouse again?
[12:02] <nperry> lividium: Are you on a different machine now?
[12:02] <furuno> bullgard: gnome-volume-control-applet
[12:02] <researcher1> anybody knows a better tutorial for me? my UBUNTU 9.10 64 bit failed to boot after I installed & ran remastersys
[12:02] <bananasfordinner> So I'm still having trouble getting cups to run on boot. I've tried to run << sudo update-rc.d cups defaults >> but it says that the runlevel arguments ( 0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (1) and that the links already exist
[12:03] <lividium> no, I am on the same laptop
[12:03] <bullgard> furuno: No, it is not. gnome-volume-contro-applet is an executable file (and a .desktop file) but no picture file.
[12:03] <furuno> bullgard: oh you mean the icons?
[12:04] <furuno> bullgard: wait a minute
[12:04] <bullgard> furuno: Yes, I mean an icon.
[12:04] <nperry> lividium: Boot into bios and see if there is AMD PowerNow disabled, if it is enable it.
[12:04] <chrisw> Hi all, we're on LTS, but the version of MySQL in hardy has bugs that we need fixing, what's the recommended way of getting a newer version in the 5.1 series?
[12:04] <chrisw> er, 5.0 series..
[12:05] <furuno> bullgard: do you want the location or only the filename? or do you want the icon itself?
[12:05] <MenZa> chrisw: Humm, the recommended way is to not upgrade, but I would probably build mysql myself if I were you
[12:05] <MenZa> chrisw: Do note that that might give you issues when upgrading to 10.04 in April.
[12:06] <furuno> bullgard: the icons should be in /usr/share/icons/<theme name>
[12:06] <MenZa> chrisw: (Hence the thou-shalt-not-upgrade-from-other-places-than-the-repositories)
[12:06] <jpds> chrisw: Upgrade is the supported way, if you need a newer vesion of something, upgrade.
[12:06] <furuno> bullgard: usually called audio-volulme-xxx.png
[12:06] <racle> When i boot my machnine, boot logo show, and then when it try to load kde, it goes black screen with X-mouse. Any ideas why it do that?
[12:06] <jpds> Compiling stuff from source → not so supported.
[12:06] <furuno> bullgard: in the status category
[12:07] <researcher1> can i repeat a question here?
[12:07] <MenZa> chrisw: What jpds said.
[12:07] <racle> and i have regonfigured my xorg with that tool, and when i do that, it boot normally one time
[12:07] <ardchoille> researcher1: yes, just not too often
[12:07] <chrisw> jpds: what do you mean by "upgrade"?
[12:07] <researcher1> ok
[12:07] <chrisw> hard backports? something else?
[12:07] <researcher1> my UBUNTU 9.10 64 bit failed to boot after I installed & ran remastersys. Is this the right doc for me to restore GRUB with? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:07] <chrisw> hard -> hardy
[12:07] <lividium> kk, be back in a sec
[12:07] <nperry> chrisw: do-release-upgrade -d
[12:07] <chrisw> nperry: what does that do?
[12:07] <jpds> chrisw: Upgrade to an Ubuntu release which has the version you need.
[12:08] <chrisw> hmm, don't want to move off LTS
[12:08] <chrisw> it's only mysql I want to upgrade, because of a specific bug
[12:08] <nperry> chrisw: The only supported way is to do that or wait till 10.04
[12:08] <MenZa> chrisw: You /could/ attempt to just... upgrade from newer packages (for later dists), but it's not something I'd recommend.
[12:09] <bananasfordinner> So I'm still having trouble getting cups to run on boot. I've tried to run << sudo update-rc.d cups defaults >> but it says that the runlevel arguments ( 0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (1) and that the links already exist
[12:09] <MenZa> chrisw: First, you might run into dependency hell, and second, it's not supported.
[12:09] <bullgard> furuno: If you could tell me just the filename, I would be happy and could find out its complete path myself.
[12:09] <chrisw> hmm, so, source install would be the way to go, right?
[12:10] <chrisw> or use MySQL's provided binaries?
[12:10] <jrib> bananasfordinner: ubuntu version?
[12:10] <bananasfordinner> karmic
[12:10] <MenZa> chrisw: I think it might be better to use later Ubuntu binaries.
[12:10] <nperry> chrisw: hardy has 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5 mysql-server
[12:10] <jrib> bananasfordinner: how are you sure it should be starting that way instead of with upstart directly?
[12:11] <MenZa> !info mysql-server
[12:11] <bullgard> furuno: I do not understand your message: "in the status category".
[12:11] <ardchoille> chrisw: either way you may run into dependency problems. fwiw, Jaunty is quite nice and newer than what you have.
[12:11] <furuno> bullgard: well, "audio-volume-high.png"
[12:11] <chrisw> MenZa: but you just told me I couldn't do that...
[12:11] <MenZa> chrisw: you *might* have issues with it.
[12:11] <bananasfordinner> jrib: right now, cups starts fine if I just type "sudo cupsd"
[12:11] <MenZa> chrisw: The thing is, if you install Ubuntu packages, at least you'll have distro-specific paths and such
[12:11] <furuno> bullgard: it's in /usr/share/icons/tango/32x32/status/
[12:11] <jrib> bananasfordinner: not my question
[12:11] <furuno> bullgard: depend on your them tought...
[12:11] <daffies> Hi, Can anybody tell me what if there is a concurrent user limit on Ubuntu 9.04?  i use this ubuntu machine as a file server.
[12:11] <bananasfordinner> jrib: please rephrase?
[12:11] <furuno> bullgard: theme*
[12:11] <chrisw> MenZa: and what does that buy me?
[12:11] <ardchoille> chrisw: Do not mix release packages, that will most likely cause problems.
[12:11] <jrib> bananasfordinner: why are you running update-rc.d?
[12:11] <mesdag> weird second monitor isn't working in twinview with the 185.x nvidia drivers but with 173.x it does...
[12:12] <MenZa> chrisw: A better change of upgrading to 10.04 in April.
[12:12] <bananasfordinner> jrib: somebody told me to. My problem is that cups isn't running on boot when it should be.
[12:12]  * chrisw wonders what the poitn of LTS is *grump*
[12:12] <ardchoille> chrisw: support for 3 years on the desktop, 5 years on the server
[12:12] <DanielV> Hi guys. Anybody who could help me with a chmod problem? :)
[12:12] <MenZa> chrisw: Eventually, if you don't want to upgrade from 8.04 (which is reasonable), you're looking at purely unsupported methods.
[12:12] <DanielV> I have a folder belonging to usera. userb needs writeaccess to this directory, so I add him in usera's group, and chmods the dir to 775. Still, no write-access for userb. What am I doing wrong?
[12:13] <furuno> chrisw: and longer names :D
[12:13] <MenZa> chrisw: You get security updates for much longer.
[12:13] <chrisw> ardchoille: and what deos that mean? what use is supprot if it doesn't fix bugs?
[12:14] <epinky> chrisw: someone has reported succesful compile on backports here https://bugs.launchpad.net/hardy-backports/+bug/403562/
[12:14] <MenZa> chrisw: Security-based problems are fixed.
[12:14] <nperry> chrisw: LTS is support for secruity updates. Most stable updates, you wouldnt like it if they chucked 5.1 in and it broke your server :)
[12:14] <mazda01> my / filled up. i keep getting failed kernel update installs. now /tmp is full of folders named /tmp/mkinitramfs_********, can I remove these?
[12:14] <chrisw> MenZa: *shrugs* that doesn't help *me* ;-)
[12:14] <ardchoille> chrisw: support means bug fixes and security updates.The Ubuntu packagers don't have any responsibility to fix upstream sources.
[12:14] <chrisw> nperry: yeah, I'm nto after 5.1, I'm after bugfixes to replication in 5.0
[12:15] <bananasfordinner> jribd: any ideas ?
[12:15] <ardchoille> chrisw: talk to the mysql folks, tell them to fix things so the ubuntu packagers can package the fixes
[12:15] <rumpsy> Bye
[12:15] <rumpsy> Ya i did..
[12:15] <nperry> !bye | rumpsy
[12:15] <chrisw> ardchoille: they've fixed the probelms already, in 5.0.60
[12:16] <mgv1> mgv1> what are good channels on teamspeak?
[12:16] <mgv1> IM in ubuntu is bad
[12:16] <ardchoille> chrisw: Ah, ok
[12:16] <mgv1> how can i make xhat to not switch between channels when each is loaded???????
[12:16] <nperry> chrisw: Build from source is the only way, its not recommended though.
[12:16] <chrisw> ardchoille: which is why I want to know how to upgrade mysql on a pair of LTS servers from 5.0.51 to something-later-than-5.0.60...
[12:17] <petski> Hi, I wanted to create a backup of some partitions on my hard disk. The external disk, on which I want to create the backup, is formatted as FAT32 (so doesn't support files to be larger than 4 GB). Therefor i used something like 'dd if=/dev/sda6 | split -d -b 2000m - /mnt/external/image' to split it up. Now I would like to mount those splitted images as one image, without needing to concat the image somewhere (don't have storage for that). I looked at 'af
[12:17] <petski> flib', but 'affuse' doesn't support this feature. Anywhere else I can look?
[12:17] <bullgard> furuno: It's /usr/share/icons/Human/16x16/status/audio-volume-hig.png with me.  --  Thank you very much for your enduring help.
[12:17] <Kartagis> I have a question/problem with gftp. when I hit ctrl+r nothing happens but when I select ctrl+r from the menu, transfer begins. any ideas?
[12:17] <jrib> bananasfordinner: patience
[12:17] <ardchoille> chrisw: The best way I know of is to move from your LTS to something later, but then you're no longer on an LTS
[12:18] <furuno> bullgard: np ;)
[12:18] <bananasfordinner> jrib: ok :)
[12:18] <ardchoille> chrisw: Can you stick it out until April? The next LTS release should be out then.
[12:18] <jrib> bananasfordinner: pastebin: find /etc/rc* -iname '*cups*'
[12:19] <bananasfordinner> /etc/rc1.d/K80cups
[12:19] <th3_b0b> hi! I'm running karmic. How can I prevent Gnome from showing file previews on the desktop?
[12:19] <bananasfordinner> /etc/rc2.d/S50cups
[12:19] <bananasfordinner> /etc/rc3.d/S50cups
[12:19] <bananasfordinner> /etc/rc4.d/S50cups
[12:19] <bananasfordinner> /etc/rc5.d/S50cups
[12:19] <jrib> bananasfordinner: pastebin, not here
[12:19] <FloodBot2> bananasfordinner: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:19] <jrib> bananasfordinner: how have you determined it's not starting?
[12:19] <bananasfordinner> http://paste.ubuntu.com/338635/
[12:20] <t0mppa> What are some common options for getting a kernel to load properly from GRUB command line? I have a fresh 9.10 install into which I cannot boot and I'm not getting any error messages that would tell me what's wrong.
[12:20] <mgv1> there is a program that allows to make lyrics of songs appear?
[12:20] <bananasfordinner> jrib: it isn't starting because when I try to configure printers and I click troubleshoot it says "cups is not running"
[12:20] <ardchoille> th3_b0b: Nautilus. Edit > Preferences > Preview tab > Show Thumbnails drop-down menu
[12:20] <mesdag> mgvl: amarok?
[12:20] <furuno> mgv1: the most accurate IMO is Songbird with the Lyric plugin
[12:21] <lividium> nperry: I couldn't find anything that resembled power now in my cmos
[12:21] <jrib> bananasfordinner: is it running now?
[12:21] <mgv1> furuno, songbird? ok i will check it
[12:21] <furuno> mgv1: you can get it from getsongbird.com, of course, it's open source ;)
[12:21] <bananasfordinner> jrib: yes, but only because I typed "sudo cupsd"
[12:22] <jrib> bananasfordinner: undo that, does « sudo service cups start » work without error?
[12:22] <th3_b0b> ardchoille: And those settings would not only apply to nautilus itself but also to the files on the desktop?
[12:22] <ardchoille> th3_b0b: yes, nautilus manages the desktop as well
[12:22] <bananasfordinner> jrib: what kill signal do I need to pass again to stop cups?
[12:22] <mgv1> how do i add gmail contact to jabber???//?
[12:23] <MenZa> mgv1: Add their gmail addy.
[12:23] <th3_b0b> ardchoille, ah, ok, so there is no way of having thumbnails in nautilus but not in the desktop?
[12:23] <jrib> bananasfordinner: don't know what cups does
[12:23] <jrib> (with signals sent to it8
[12:23] <bananasfordinner> jrib: cups is the print server
[12:23] <ardchoille> th3_b0b: not that I know of, nautilus manages it self and everything on the desktop including the wallpaper and icons, etc
[12:23] <th3_b0b> ardchoille, Ok, thank you!
[12:24] <ardchoille> yw
[12:24] <mgv1> MenZa, what?
[12:24] <mgv1> why i cant find songbird with the manager of programs?
[12:24] <MenZa> mgv1: Their Gmail account name. Add that as a buddy.
[12:24] <furuno> mgv1: songbird is not packaged for ubuntu, you can get it from getsongbird.com
[12:25] <bananasfordinner> jrib: <<sudo service cups start>> works
[12:25] <jrib> bananasfordinner: this was after killing cupsd?
[12:25] <furuno> mgv1: to install simply extract it in the directory you wish and run it
[12:25] <bananasfordinner> jrib: yes.
[12:26] <jrib> bananasfordinner: on boot up, that is exactly what is run
[12:26] <mgv1> furuno, ok
[12:26] <jrib> bananasfordinner: can you make sure it works fine after a fresh boot as well?
[12:26] <bananasfordinner> ok
[12:26] <bananasfordinner> i'll be right back
[12:26] <mgv1> MenZa, when i add the gmail address nothing happens in jabber
[12:27] <MenZa> mgv1: Well, that's the approach.
[12:28] <paschu> Hey guys, everytime i start my torrent client, my connection breakes, is that normal?
[12:28] <furuno> paschu: do you use too many connection?
[12:28] <lividium> nperry: I couldn't find anything that resembled power now in my cmos
[12:28] <furuno> paschu: you need to limit the number of connection or your modem can be overloaded
[12:28] <bananasfordinner> jrib: it works on a clean boot.
[12:29] <paschu> It isnt overloaded, because i had more connections on windows
[12:29] <Tiders> Hmm does Ubuntu have any plans to fix Intel sound card support?
[12:29] <paschu> and it worked fine
[12:29] <dylan__> can anyone tell me how to change which folder is displayed on your desktop
[12:29] <dylan__> my intel sound card works just fine
[12:29] <Tiders> dylan__, Mine pops whenever activated
[12:29] <indus> Tiders: intel sound card?
[12:29] <Tiders> indus, Yes
[12:29] <furuno> paschu: hmm, try different client? deluge works fine for me
[12:29] <bananasfordinner> jrib: it appears that <<sudo service cups start>> is not actually running on boot.
[12:30] <paschu> furuno, already tried transmission and delunge
[12:30] <indus> Tiders: sure that your card is intel
[12:30] <Tiders> indus, Its built into my Asus P6T SE mobo
[12:30] <dylan__> yea uhm how do you change which folder is displayed on your desktop?
[12:30] <dylan__> and who's got windows 7 ultimate running in seamless mode :D
[12:30] <indus> Tiders: can u paste output of lshw -C sound
[12:30] <drhalan> hey, i cannnot install grub when using the text installer. its always stuck at "detecting other OSes"
[12:30] <jrib> bananasfordinner: what does « runlevel » return?
[12:31] <furuno> dylan__: I've tried the Pro
[12:31] <furuno> dylan__: runs pretty well except for aero ;)
[12:31] <bananasfordinner> jrib: N 2
[12:31] <furuno> dylan__: on 9.04 tought...
[12:31] <dylan__> furuno: yep, my 3d acceleration won't run with guest additons :/
[12:31] <Tiders> indus, http://pastebin.com/f772920a7
[12:32] <dylan__> furuno: but other then that i'm happy, i got microsoft office 2007 for free from my college today
[12:32] <indus> Tiders: cool thanks
[12:32] <furuno> dylan__: well, I've never tried to use 3d in virtual 7
[12:32] <indus> Tiders: so what exactly is the issue
[12:32] <jrib> bananasfordinner: why do you believe the script isn't being run on boot?
[12:32] <Tiders> indus, Whenever it is activated from being "idle" it makes a popping noise
[12:32] <dylan__> furuno: do you know how to change which folders are displayed on the desktop
[12:32] <Tiders> indus, Through my speakers
[12:32] <bananasfordinner> jrib: because cups is not running after boot is completed.
[12:32] <indus> Tiders: what do you mean activated
[12:33] <furuno> dylan__: I don't think it's possible with GNOME, but I guess it can be done with KDE
[12:33] <Tiders> indus, So if there is no sound for a while and then there is a sudden sound it will pop... But if playing a game with constant sound it doesnt do it
[12:33] <jrib> bananasfordinner: ok.  It's more likely it fails for some reason.  Does it start without issue now using the service command?
[12:33] <indus> Tiders: ok
[12:33] <dylan__> furuno: :/
[12:33] <indus> Tiders: yeah which ubuntu
[12:33] <indus> Tiders: 9110
[12:33] <dylan__> furuno: kde eats your video memory up... so i don't use it
[12:33] <bananasfordinner> jrib: yeah. It starts without problem.
[12:33] <indus> 9 point one zero?
[12:33] <Tiders> indus, I just upgraded to karmic yesterday because everyone says most issues have been fixed
[12:33] <indus> Tiders: ok
[12:33] <furuno> dylan__: no it actually only, chows on them and spit them back :D
[12:34] <Tiders> indus, Is this a known issue?
[12:34] <indus> Tiders: nothing fixed, i have some issues too
[12:34] <dylan__> furuno: lol it works fine if i'm not running windows 7 in seamless mode
[12:34] <indus> Tiders: fixed for some with new issues for others
[12:34] <dylan__> furuno: but ..... i had to split my ram in half
[12:34] <jrib> bananasfordinner: /etc/rc2.d/S50cups is a symlink to /etc/init.d/cups .  That means it gets executed on runlevel 2.  Have you done anything related to upstart, sysv init, or cups recently?
[12:34] <Tiders> indus, Is there already a bug report for it?
[12:35] <mgv1> how do i rip cds like the dw 2003 to make them availble for lyrics plaing in songbird?
[12:35] <indus> Tiders: but i dont have major problems
[12:35] <indus> some crackle occasionally
[12:35] <furuno> mgv1: if you use the Lyric plugin, songbird should fetch the lyric automatically from the internet
[12:35] <Tiders> indus, The main time I notice it is if Im sitting typing out stuff in Word with no sound and then someone signs into MSN since the card is being activated it makes a a huge pop and scares the crap outta me
[12:35] <furuno> mgv1: just make sure you have the ID3 tag corerct
[12:36] <indus> Tiders: really huge pop?
[12:36] <bananasfordinner> jrib: Yes. I've messed around with swappiness and concurrency = shell. Other than that, no.
[12:36] <mgv1> furuno, but first i need to rip the files
[12:36] <Tiders> indus, Yeah
[12:36] <indus> Tiders: maybe search for  a bug report i guess
[12:36] <jrib> bananasfordinner: get rid of concurrency, see if problem goes away
[12:36] <Tiders> indus, ALright
[12:36] <bananasfordinner> all right.
[12:37] <Tiders> indus How much do sound cards go for if I just wanted to buy one thats compatible and bypass the onboard one?
[12:37] <furuno> mgv1: well, you can use other apps to rip the cd
[12:37] <indus> Tiders: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1322134
[12:37] <indus> Tiders: oh they are expensive
[12:37] <mgv1> furuno, what like?
[12:38] <indus> Tiders: the reason  its integrated is cos its very good quality anyway
[12:38] <indus> Tiders:like a network card , saves costs
[12:38] <furuno> mgv1: SoundJuice, it should be preinstalled (the Audio CD Extractor)
[12:38] <indus> Tiders: sound on board has been super since the days of nvidia nforce
[12:38] <indus> Tiders: or intel for that matter
[12:38] <furuno> mgv1: typo, I mean SoundJuicer
[12:39] <chrisw> how can I see what packages have been held back? (and why?)
[12:39] <jrib> bananasfordinner: if you google "concurrency shell cups", you'll see what's going on
[12:39] <jrib> chrisw: use aptitude in a terminal?
[12:39] <bananasfordinner> jrib: ahhh thanks
[12:39] <chrisw> jrib: yeah, got that bit, but what apttiude command?
[12:40] <jrib> chrisw: what were you trying to do when you got the error?
[12:40] <CHESLYN> hi everyone
[12:40] <mateusz> czesc
[12:40] <bananasfordinner> jrib: thanks. It looks good now :)
[12:40] <mateusz> hello
[12:40] <chrisw> jrib: when I installed screen, I noticed a bunch of packages were kept back, I just want to list them, without installign somethign else...
[12:41] <t0mppa> ok, maybe i should rephrase my question: where do i have to go to get an answer (or even a reply in general) on how to get my ubuntu to boot, since i'm getting ignored here, on the forums and on launchpad? to the kernel mailing list?
[12:41] <jrib> chrisw: I presume some packages weren't upgraded... sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[12:41] <jrib> !support > t0mppa
[12:42] <mgv1> how do i run SoundJuicer????
[12:42] <lightbricko> Does anyone know why TrueCrypt is not in the repositories?
[12:42] <chrisw> jrib: yeah, but for now i just want that list without doing the safe-upgrade
[12:42] <ardchoille> t0mppa: Sounds like you're assuming everyone here knows every answer, this isn't the case.
[12:42] <jrib> chrisw: you'll get the list when that fails...
[12:42] <frogzoo> !grub | t0mppa
[12:43] <frogzoo> t0mppa: did you upgrade to koala, or clean install?