[07:11] <apw> shadeslayer, changed in what, to what, and why?
[07:12] <apw> shadeslayer, the default there is set by the kerenl, but changable globally via the kernel command line, and individually per spindle at runtime
[07:20] <apw> shadeslayer, anyhow, you might want to stop by #ubuntu-kernel as a first step
[07:44] <mlankhorst> who should I bug for xorg-server and mesa ffe's  ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1364003  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1359769
[07:44] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1364003 in mesa "[FFE] mesa 10.3" [Undecided,New]
[07:44] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1359769 in xorg-server "[FFE] xorg-server 1.16" [Undecided,New]
[10:10] <shadeslayer> apw: to CFQ, because that's whats default in linux upstream I think
[10:11] <apw> shadeslayer, we did extensive testing in the last weeks, and that showed that cfq is still all over the place
[10:11] <apw> shadeslayer, triggering visible latency issues on desktop for instance
[10:11] <shadeslayer> apw: I can haz data?
[10:12] <apw> shadeslayer, come over to #ubuntu-kernel and i'll get you with the tester
[11:28] <mlankhorst> infinity: ping? mesa 10.3?
[12:18] <ScottK> cjwatson_: Based on the libav11 progress in Debian ( https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/auto-libav.html ) - I think it might be reasonable to go ahead (better to be on the same release that Jessie will release with sooner than later for supportability reasons).  Since you had expressed concerns about libav, I thought I'd see what you thought?
[15:45] <balloons> cjwatson_, stgraber or ?.. can someone provide a copy of the daily iso from last thursday? Any day last week works too, so long as it's not friday..
[20:06] <cjwatson_> ScottK: right, I mostly had to decouple other transitions first.  was planning to go ahead with it this coming week
[20:06] <cjwatson_> balloons: if it's not on cdimage.u.c, I don't have it.  No point asking me.
[20:06] <ScottK> cjwatson_: OK.  I'll leave it to you then.
[20:07] <balloons> cjwatson_, noted. I thought you had access to someplace it might be archived
[20:07] <cjwatson> balloons: they're deleted, not archived
[20:08] <cjwatson> I'm afraid the space requirements for archival are prohibitive
[20:09] <balloons> indeed, it would be tough. It's just interesting because since we no longer have milestones (for ubuntu) we have no images besides today's
[20:11] <cjwatson> we keep more than just a single day
[20:11] <cjwatson> though only two at present for ubuntu daily-live


[00:33] <xubuntu631> installed xubuntu on pc, everything went fine, finally at the end the instal wizard asks to reboot, once i  press reboot, the computer turns off and on and can't boot to xubuntu. it gets stuck on a blackscreen with a blinking dash
[00:35] <xubuntu631> i'd really appreciate any help with this, I'm barely starting to use linux and i really wish it doesn't end like this
[00:38] <Unit193> !grub|Sounds like an issues talked about here
[00:44] <xubuntu631> ok i will try that, i've read that, the thing is (stupid of me) i completely replaced windows xp with xubuntu, so my machine only has xubuntu as the OS and it won't boot it, I'm not sure if that changes things?
[00:49] <Unit193> That should have steps to reinstall grub, point it to the config, or whatnot.
[05:05] <minhna> Hi, could anyone here help me, I have a problem with firefox menus/dropbox, sometime it doesn't appear.
[05:06] <minhna> I posted the issue here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/932643
[05:12] <baizon> hi
[05:12] <baizon> try to backup your profile first
[05:13] <baizon> then restart firefox without plugins
[05:13] <baizon> if this doesnt work try to start firefox with a new profile
[05:14] <baizon> like the answers on the website :)
[05:15] <minhna> I tried to create new profile but it doesn't help
[05:16] <minhna> I tried safemode too
[05:17] <minhna> Is there a way to log all kind of errors
[05:29] <Unit193> purge firefox, rename ~/.mozilla, install firefox. :P
[05:29] <Unit193> You'll get more errors if you run firefox from terminal.
[07:19] <NOPsled> Hey guys, I seem to be getting having this bug and I don't seem to be able to fix my grub using the method given
[07:19] <NOPsled> Is there any way I can test my GRUB installation without rebooting?
[07:20] <NOPsled> Oh I broke the link, here it is again http://askubuntu.com/questions/72003/grub-invalid-arch-independent-elf-magic-after-11-10-install-on-macbook-pro-5
[10:40] <xubuntu870> hello
[10:41] <xubuntu870> somebody around?
[10:41] <xubuntu870> need to ask something
[10:42] <knome> !ask | xubuntu870
[10:42] <Mathsterk> is there a way to get a list of everything installed with apt-get?
[10:42] <xubuntu870> how to recover the password of an account in xubuntu??
[10:45] <xubuntu870> any body?
[10:47] <asker> hello everyone can any one tell me how to recover a password... an account password??
[10:48] <asker> please help me
[10:56] <asker> any one?
[10:56] <asker> hahaiz
[15:33] <ilius> hi
[15:33] <ilius> as a Python developer, I'm just wondering why package python-appindicator is installed by default, while no package depends on it (you can remove it without any other package being removed). Appindicator is for Unity (Gnome fork), while Xubuntu uses Xfce.
[16:16] <xubuntu957> my eeepc
[16:19] <xubuntu957> my eeepc starts to a black screen but using the recovery option it opens well enough. How could I get back to where it opened automatically in the normal manner?
[16:22] <RexIdiotarum> Okay, I need a little help with a weird problem.
[16:25] <GridCube> xubuntu957, try using an old kernel from the grub boot options
[16:25] <GridCube> see if that fixs your problems
[16:25] <GridCube> !details | RexIdiotarum
[16:30] <xubuntu957> Thanks GridCube  J'll try that. The problem only started after the latest kernel update.
[16:31] <GridCube> :)
[16:31] <GridCube> that sometimes happen, if reverting works, xubuntu957 then file a bug report against the new kernel and tell about it
[16:31] <RexIdiotarum> I am having trouble with audio channels, Spoken words go out my laptop's speakers, where music goes out the headphone jack. I'm running the latest Ubuntu with Xfce 4.8 interface, I believe. A friend installed it for me about a month ago. At this point I'm kind of chemestry-doggin' it.
[16:32] <GridCube> :o thats very odd indeed
[16:33] <RexIdiotarum> I can get into ALSA mixer, but it doesn't help, and the GUI version is straight up gone.
[16:33] <GridCube> RexIdiotarum, go to the sound icon on the topbar and go to sound configuration then go to configuration and there change the mode of the audio, you are probably using a 5.1 setup that sends different kinds of sounds to different channels
[16:34] <RexIdiotarum> Yeah, that is no longer there.
[16:34] <RexIdiotarum> The speaker thing is just gone.
[16:34] <GridCube> mmmm thats ood
[16:34] <GridCube> odd even
[16:35] <RexIdiotarum> Everything was working until a series of power-outages a week ago. Do you think there is a simpler solution than a Fresh Start?
[16:36] <GridCube> yep
[16:37] <GridCube> RexIdiotarum, press alt-f2 and write: pavucontrol
[16:37] <GridCube> RexIdiotarum, also in the panel add a new item, search for plugin indicator when adding it, it should restore the audio icon
[16:37] <RexIdiotarum> Failed to execute child process "pavucontrol" (No such file or directory)
[16:38] <GridCube> great...
[16:38] <GridCube> open a terminal, press alt-f2: xfce4-terminal
[16:38] <GridCube> and execute it again
[16:39] <RexIdiotarum> I'm going to apt-get it.
[16:41] <GridCube> :/ it should have been alraedy there
[16:41] <GridCube> RexIdiotarum, are you using xubuntu 12.04?
[16:42] <GridCube> RexIdiotarum, you should probably reinstall xubuntu-desktop if you are, because you seem to miss some important packages
[16:44] <RexIdiotarum> *Facepalm* Actually, it looks like he just put xfce on a gnome ubuntu.
[16:44] <GridCube> :) then go and install xubuntu-desktop
[16:46] <GridCube> when its done you should also delete the ~/.config/xfce4 folder so all the default files are recreated
[17:01] <RexIdiotarum> There we go.
[17:05] <GridCube> :) delete that folder and relogin
[17:09] <RexIdiotarum> Okay, the mixer still doesn't seem to work, but I accidentally stumbled upon the problem and solution of the separated channels.
[17:10] <GridCube> RexIdiotarum, so now you should have the sound control thingy on the panel
[17:10] <RexIdiotarum> Mixer still does not have an icon.
[17:11] <GridCube> did you deleted the ~/.config/xfce4 folder and reloged?
[17:11] <RexIdiotarum> Hm... let me try again.
[17:17] <RexIdiotarum> Okay, the icon for mixer now shows up, however it is constantly set to mute.
[17:17] <RexIdiotarum> Even when it plays audio.
[17:21] <GridCube> RexIdiotarum, :)so?
[17:23] <RexIdiotarum> I found the solution to the multi-channel issue. It wasn't ubuntu, but rather hardware. Partially plugging the cable in fixed that.
[17:23] <RexIdiotarum> Audio controls, however, are still down.
[17:23] <RexIdiotarum> Mixer claims to be muted, with no way of changing that.
[17:23] <RexIdiotarum> Though sounds still flow through.
[17:23] <GridCube> RexIdiotarum, from a terminal execute alsamixer
[17:24] <RexIdiotarum> Alsamixer works.
[17:24] <GridCube> it says something is muted?
[17:25] <RexIdiotarum> Alsamixer works from within the terminal. The little icon says it's muted.
[17:26] <GridCube> mmm try pavucontrol now
[17:27] <RexIdiotarum> Does it usually take some time?
[17:27] <GridCube> nope
[17:27] <RexIdiotarum> All it did was linebreak.
[17:28] <GridCube> mmm
[17:28] <GridCube> you probably misstyped
[17:28] <GridCube> press ctrl-c
[17:28] <GridCube> and relaunch from a terminal
[17:28] <GridCube> this is very odd :/
[17:29] <RexIdiotarum> "pavucontrol" pasted straight into the terminal.
[17:29] <RexIdiotarum> Same issue.
[17:29] <GridCube> write pav and press tab twice
[17:30] <GridCube> :/ im probably not helping though
[17:31] <RexIdiotarum> It brings up "pavucontrol "
[17:31] <GridCube> yes
[17:31] <GridCube> that means its installed
[17:31] <RexIdiotarum> Pressing enter puts my cursor to the next line, and doesn't do anything else.
[17:31] <GridCube> mmm, how very weird
[17:32] <GridCube> RexIdiotarum, can i get an screenshot of your desktop?
[17:32] <GridCube> !imagebin
[17:36] <RexIdiotarum> http://imagebin.org/221988
[17:37] <RexIdiotarum> It removed the cursor, but I was clicking on the icon at the top.
[17:38] <GridCube> mmhm yes, dont worry
[17:38] <GridCube> im really confused by this RexIdiotarum :(
[17:39] <RexIdiotarum> Me and programs don't go together really well...
[17:39] <RexIdiotarum> I once crashed notepad...
[17:39] <GridCube> clicking on the speaker icon brings some kind of options?
[17:40] <RexIdiotarum> No, and right-clicking just give panel options.
[17:40] <GridCube> how weird
[17:41] <GridCube> im sorry RexIdiotarum :( i don't know what else to recommend you
[17:41] <GridCube> can you control the sound using alsamixer for now?
[17:42] <RexIdiotarum> Yes.
[17:42] <GridCube> if yes then you should probably wait for someone smarter to come by
[17:42] <ryuurei> I've got a problem with my external monitor. When I connect it to my samsung (Xubuntu 12.04) via HDMI, it isn't recognized.
[17:42] <RexIdiotarum> If I switch out my speakers and just put the audio output through the TV, I should be able to control it like that.
[17:44] <RexIdiotarum> Thank you for your help and patience.
[17:44] <GridCube> dont worry
[17:44] <GridCube> ryuurei, check configuring your monitor using arandr
[17:45] <GridCube> RexIdiotarum, you could ask on the mailing list or in the forums
[17:45] <GridCube> even on askubuntu
[17:47] <GridCube> good luck RexIdiotarum :) i have to go now
[17:47] <RexIdiotarum> Have a great day.
[17:47] <ryuurei> GridCube: the only one that is shown is the default.
[17:47] <ryuurei> Oh you have to go. Good day, then. Thanks for the suggestion.
[17:48] <GridCube> :) ryuurei check that the monitor is activated, probably check that is plugged correctly too.
[18:22] <bolland> hi #xubuntu, I just installed 12.04 64 bit which was a bit of a hassle because of my nvidia gtx 580 card. Had to hit F6 and change some parameters when booting from the cd, I went with noquiet nosplash nomodeset. After that installation went fine, but xubuntu always boots to console login. Would much rather boot to xfce. If I login and use startx it works fine, but after reboot I'm back at the console. Any words of advice? Been googli
[18:22] <bolland> ng it for quite some time now .. :)
[18:38] <Dice> bolland: try 'sudo apt-get remove --purge lightdm && sudo apt-get install lightdm' and reboot
[18:41] <bolland> Dice, thanks for the suggestion :) brb reboot time
[18:42] <Dice> I wonder if he should also remove ~/.dmrc
[18:43] <Myrtti> just restarting X should've worked too
[18:43] <Myrtti> magic sysrq k
[18:44] <bolland> didn't help unfortunately, same thing, reboot ended at console login
[18:45] <Dice> Myrtti: isn't lightdm called by upstart? though I guess that would work for starting it
[18:45] <Dice> http://www.mentby.com/Group/xubuntu-users/lightdm-doesnt-star-automatically-solved.html
[18:51] <bolland> Dice, nice thanks! suggestion (1) was already as suggested, now trying (2). brb
[18:56] <bolland> Dice, got changed behavior now I was stuck at console (no login) last message: lightdm start/running, process 1269. alt+f1 -> login -> startx to get into xfce
[18:57] <bolland> pointing me towards lightdm opens up some new possibilities for googling tho .. :)
[19:57] <xubuntu621> noob here. how can i tell which version of xubuntu i'm running?
[19:58] <Unit193> lsb_release -a  in the terminal.
[20:01] <David-A> xubuntu621: the first line of /etc/apt/sources.list should be the the name of the cd you installed from
[22:21] <douglas> Having some trouble when I run my updates. If someone could look at this error I got and give me some feedback I would be grateful. http://pastebin.com/EaXyyEFv
[22:23] <genii-around> douglas: Just remove the file it's complaining about, sudo apt-get update  re-makes it
[22:23] <douglas> Is that particular file safe to remove?
[22:24] <genii-around> douglas: All of them in there are
[22:24] <douglas> ok. thank you
[22:25] <genii-around> douglas: The files in /var/lib/apt/lists/  just get updated whenever you fetch the latest list of available stuff, etc. If empty, then sudo apt-get update populates the directory
[22:25] <Mathsterk> i made a "script" for removing that :P
[22:30] <douglas> genii-around: I'm still getting W: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:31] <genii-around> douglas: Yes, that's a separate issue
[22:31] <douglas> haven't had much experience with these problems. What should I do?
[22:32] <genii-around> You can add the key
[22:34] <genii-around> something like sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 16126D3A3E5C1192
[22:35] <Mathsterk> apt-get should have some auto-fix thing :P
[22:36] <genii-around> Yes, it could definitely be more intuitive...
[22:43] <douglas>  sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf      with     sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade fixed me
[22:43] <douglas> thank you for your help uys
[22:43] <douglas> guys*
[23:51] <yoreei> Hi. want to install a custom theme is xubuntu 12.04 . I've looked through several tutorials about adding themes and all of them say that I either have to go to ~/.themes  or /usr/share/themes. Ok now the problem is that I don't have a themes folder in Home and I don't hace permissions to write to  /usr/share/themes. Can you help me?
[23:51] <Unit193> Open a terminal, and type  mkdir ~/.themes
[23:52] <yoreei> Thank you, I'll try in a moment
[23:57] <David-A> Or create folder ~/.themes in thunar (in home folder, right-click>Create Folder and enter name .themes)


[03:56] <Kr0ntab> heya folks...
[13:53] <freaknl> Hello, I would like to document the configuration of a computer for 802.1x authentication (with wpa-supplicant), because most of the information about using wpa-supplicant is geared towards wireless networks, and because information is missing (I think)
[13:54] <freaknl> Can I start a new page on the help.ubuntu.com wiki?
[13:56] <freaknl> Also, is there a wiki tag for making an info paragraph (with the icon in front of it) such as at https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/user-guide/C/mouse-skills.html#mouse-conventions ?
[13:58] <freaknl> Another thing, the link to the style guide is broken on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide/Style
[15:47] <freaknl> New page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Network802.1xAuthentication
[15:47] <freaknl> Hope it helps someone
[15:53] <freaknl> Could someone check that page for style?


[06:04] <ipatrol> I was musing over some stuff, and I thought, "Well gee, we have gnome-disks, but it's not quite the "graphical fstab editor" that people have been asking for at least as far back as 2006
[06:04] <ipatrol> "
[13:28] <jair> hello, what does that mean (linux-image low latency? version?
[16:42] <dobey> jair: linux-lowlatency is the metapackage for the low latency kernel. linux-image-lowlatency is the metapackage for just the low latency kernel image
[19:24] <ptrz> hi guys. Does anyone know where I can find the code for the nologin(8) ubuntu uses?
[19:24] <ptrz> seems like it's different from redhat's
[19:25] <cjwatson> $ dpkg -S bin/nologin
[19:25] <cjwatson> login: /usr/sbin/nologin
[19:25] <cjwatson> $ apt-cache showsrc login | grep ^Package:
[19:25] <cjwatson> Package: shadow
[19:25] <cjwatson> therefore, apt-get source shadow
[19:26] <ptrz> cjwatson: thanks
[20:48] <infinity> cjwatson: I had a dream this morning that the process for turning off my alarm clock involved running germinate.  I'm trying to figure out how to blame you for this.
[21:11] <cjwatson> infinity: Blaming Scott is more fun.
[21:16] <infinity> cjwatson: I shall send doko to tell him all about it in a changeroom.
[21:28] <tsimonq2> huh, germinate, I learned something new today XD


[07:18] <dholbach> good morning
[08:45] <Fantu> hi, any news about this with debdiff already posted? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/517021
[11:46] <Laney> Fantu: It's in the right queue (http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/), just a matter of waiting at this point
[18:07] <upsideout> Hello there I am trying to package up a qt application and and I keep on getting the error "Unknow moduels Qt : quick qml "  Not sure what I might have to install thanks a bunch
[18:33] <upsideout> NVM got it


[18:01] <pleia2> #startmeeting
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[18:01] <pleia2> who all is here for the meeting? :)
[18:01] <pleia2> #link http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/Agenda
[18:03] <pleia2> ok, I guess while we wait for folks I can go over some of my own action items from last meeting
[18:03] <pleia2> #topic Items from last meeting
[18:03] <pleia2> I did reach out to dpm about adding Harvest as a LoCo Project, and the LoCo Council is going to add it to the list of ideas that they're going to talk about in an upcoming hangout on the topic
[18:04] <pleia2> haven't gotten another Harvest blog post out yet, was going to do it last week but travel+cold caught up with me
[18:04] <pleia2> #topic 1311 Blueprint updates
[18:05] <pleia2> I emailed czajkowski about doing a career days session, but haven't heard back yet
[18:06] <pleia2> I'm working with dolasilla to get the matrix site set up on a test VPS I have, should have test environment set up by the end of the week so she can add the code for review
[18:06] <pleia2> I added my "What people are doing" story a couple weeks ago, encourage other to as well :) http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/WhatPeopleAreDoing#Elizabeth_Krumbach_Joseph_.28pleia2.29
[18:07] <pleia2> anyone else have any blueprint updates?
[18:11] <pleia2> #topic Any other business
[18:16] <pleia2> anyone have anything else? :)
[18:20] <pleia2> ok, I'll wrap this up then
[18:20] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[18:20] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jan 14 18:20:28 2014 UTC.
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[18:20] <Cheri703> noooo
[18:20] <Cheri703> I just got here!
[18:20] <Cheri703> I was going to be on time too!
[18:20] <Cheri703> dangit >_<
[18:21] <Cheri703> sorry
[18:21] <akk> me too, Cheri703 -- for once I'm actually here during a meeting but I had a phone meeting that ran long.
[18:22] <pleia2> Cheri703: anything else to add?
[18:22] <pleia2> I can append to logs :)
[18:23] <Cheri703> I don't, other than an apology for being so MIA lately
[18:26] <pleia2> ok, no worries


[09:20] <dandersson> A mirror returned via mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt for me (location: Sweden, mirror: http://se.mirror.guru/ubuntu/) seems to not have renewed its domain name, and is thus dead from my point-of-view.
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> sajoupa: ^
[09:22] <sajoupa> dandersson: Hi, yeah it was reported earlier for another of their domains (BE and NL), and I marked them all broken (incl. the SE one). The list should get updated soon.
[09:23] <dandersson> sajoupa: Great, thanks!
[09:23] <sajoupa> dandersson: np, thanks for reporting it