[17:10] <crlcan81> Because MZ did
[17:10] <Guest60273> ActionParsnip, WOW take a chill pill buddy
[17:10] <TJ-> crlcan81: From what I read, a residual gnome-panel can be caused by having something like wingpanel installed - it uses gnome-panel
[17:10] <ffisch> BluesKaj: ok
[17:10] <agoodm> anyone got a fix for the truncated dns issue in precise?
[17:10] <superbbbfab> someone can help me with playonlinux?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> agoodm: tried a different DNS server?
[17:11] <crlcan81> If I'm a gamer, what reason would I have to use Ubuntu if I had the option to use Windows?
[17:11] <crlcan81> Seriously?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> crlcan81: so why is using LXDE and loading the dock different?
[17:11] <TJ-> agoodm: you have a bug reference for that?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> crlcan81: LXDE is coded using GTK, so you can run all your Gnome apps without issue
[17:12] <crlcan81> Commands, menus, the LOOK.
[17:12] <agoodm> AcidRain2012, I modified ubuntu so it didnt use its internal dnsmasq as it was slower than my local resolver... my local dns server resolves the addresses fine for other clients
[17:12] <agoodm> TJ-, yes sec
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> crlcan81: but all you are using is the dock, so it will look the same
[17:12] <jazzkovsky> how to remove and reinstall unity?
[17:12] <crlcan81> No, it won't.
[17:12] <DPJ_NA> ActionParsnip: That did it, thanks
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> jazzkovsky: sudo apt-get --reinstall install unity*
[17:12] <agoodm> TJ-, 327364
[17:12] <crlcan81> I've used lxde and it doesn't load my xchat the same, it doesn't load my browser the same
[17:13] <TJ-> bug #327364
[17:13] <jemadux> how to make google hangout to work with firefox ??
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> crlcan81: then you are stoping yourself from getting the desktop functionality you desire for the sake of a look, I have no other advise
[17:13] <crlcan81> because when I ran it the 'theme' for the windows and such, metacity in gnome, not sure what in lxde, do not look the same.
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> crlcan81: your call dude
[17:13] <crlcan81> Well when that 'look' allows me to SEE things properly, it sure  DOES matter.
[17:14] <crlcan81> I use a white on black, because black on white is harder on my eyes.
[17:14] <crlcan81> That may seem like a small thing, but when you can't see that well, it sure becomes pretty big.
[17:14] <crlcan81> Even now, with glasses, what is being typed here sometimes gets fuzzy.
[17:14] <crlcan81> So yes, LOOK matters to me.
[17:14] <crlcan81> When it provides functionality.
[17:15] <TJ-> agoodm: I'm having difficulty reproducing that bug using the examples given. Do you have any other examples?
[17:16] <cbx33> hey there all!
[17:16] <asgard20032> Anyone here has experience with inadyn or ddclient?
[17:16] <cbx33> quick question - is jack multithreaded?
[17:16] <extrasolar> just ask the question
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> hi cbx33
[17:16] <agoodm> TJ-, sec phone call
[17:16] <TJ-> agoodm: OK
[17:16] <cbx33> and the "percentage" it shows for the DSP load
[17:17] <cbx33> only seems to show one "core"
[17:17] <cbx33> ie....it says 17% and in top, one of my cores is loaded to 17%
[17:17] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: http://pastebin.com/z3JZfE66
[17:17] <cbx33> Hi ActionParsnip
[17:17] <jazzkovsky> ActionParsnip: semms i misunderstood. --reinstall  seems to be an invalid option
[17:17] <ffisch> directory nonexistant :/
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> jazzkovsky: sudo apt-get --reinstall install packagename    note there is a space between get and the minus signs but NOT a gap between the minuses and the word reinstall
[17:19] <jazzkovsky> ActionParsnip: ty :)
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> ffisch: echo "blacklist tg3" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf > /dev/null
[17:19] <gr33n7007h> ActionParsnip, +1 ^^^^
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> easier
[17:20]  * BluesKaj wonders why a blacklist required , can't the pci nic be enable as default in the bios ?
[17:21] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, ^
[17:21] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, echo "tg3" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf > /dev/null
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: no idea, i was just getting what the user wanted to achieve
[17:21] <ffisch> BluesKaj: ???
[17:21] <ffisch> I only have one NIC
[17:22] <ffisch> and its on-board
[17:22] <BluesKaj> it's a pci nic correct , ffisch ? it's listed as a pci card in your laspci
[17:22] <BluesKaj> lspci rather
[17:22] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, basically you need the bnx2 driver for that NIC
[17:22] <ffisch> what does pci mean?
[17:22] <gr33n7007h> and not the tg3
[17:23] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: ok
[17:23] <cbx33> is jackd 1.9.8 = jackd2?
[17:24] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: so after i get the tg3 driver blacklisted, do "echo 'bnx2' | sudo tee -a /etc/modules"?
[17:24] <ffisch> and then reboot
[17:24] <ffisch> and then attempt to connect
[17:24] <ffisch> right?
[17:24] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, so follow them commands again using echo "tg3" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf > /dev/null then echo "bnx2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules the reboot then dhclient eth0
[17:24] <agoodm> TJ-, I can cause the issue on of all possible host named www.xvideos.com (nsfw!)
[17:24] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: ok
[17:25] <superbbbfab> hi
[17:25] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, should work fingers crossed
[17:25] <agoodm> there have been other domains causing it but cant find one off the top of my head
[17:25] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: ok
[17:26] <ffisch> rebooting
[17:26] <BluesKaj> really , Peripheral Component Interconnect , or a separate card for that function as opposed to the onboard chip
[17:26] <cbx33> oh - another important question guys - is there a decent virtual midi keyboard
[17:26] <cbx33> that i can play with a computer keyboard?
[17:26] <TJ-> agoodm: On 12.04 Precise I can't reproduce that, querying both the local dnsmasq and an external bind9 named
[17:26] <agoodm> TJ-, I just tried querying my local bind9 and it didnt work then I tried googles dns <IP_ADDRESS> and it worked
[17:27] <agoodm> argh :P
[17:27] <TJ-> agoodm: Hmm! are you using 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu?
[17:27] <agoodm> 64 bit ubuntu on laptop, 64 bit centos 6 on the gateway server
[17:28] <TJ-> agoodm: Not that then; 64-bit here too
[17:28] <agoodm> TJ-, on the gateway server the same query works OK from localhost
[17:28] <meshelton> ActionParsnip: I was having trouble with my laptop rebooting for no reason. Ran the memory checker thing from grub and it said no errors
[17:28] <TJ-> agoodm: What packages/versions provide the name servers that show the failure?
[17:29] <StZ> Ubuntu 12.04, is it possible to force a window (in this case pidgin IM's) to open in a certain workspace?
[17:29] <agoodm> TJ-, let me attempt updating the bind version on the gateway to see if the issue was resolved with a patch
[17:29] <agoodm> y
[17:30] <meshelton> StZ: I don't think there is an easy straightforward way
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> agoodm: means your other DNS sucks
[17:30] <StZ> Too bad, thanks anyway
[17:30] <TJ-> agoodm: I'm trying to trace any mention of it upstream
[17:30] <meshelton> StZ: im pretty sure you'll want to check the gnome shell documentation though
[17:30] <agoodm> :( it shouldnt its a server with a similar config to many out in the field... quite perplexing, hopefully update fixes...
[17:30] <meshelton> StZ: I could be completley wrong, I've looked for something similiar to that for cinnamon but couldn't really find anything
[17:31] <agoodm> ive got about 100 users using similar server setups without reported issues
[17:32] <agoodm> wonder if its actually the forwarding servers ive chosen that sucj
[17:32] <agoodm> suck*
[17:33] <bean> agoodm: I've done a fair amount with bind, mind re-stating the problem for me?
[17:34] <TJ-> agoodm: try "nscd -i hosts" to invalidate the local DNS cache
[17:34] <pc500> Does ubuntu ever reboot automatically by default  (updates, anything?)
[17:34] <TJ-> bean: bug #327364
[17:34] <mrdn> pc500: no
[17:34] <agoodm> on my ubuntu machine when I query my local bind im getting truncated responses when the host has a lot of entries, ie lots of A records
[17:34] <jazzkovsky> after an update, my precise pangolin refuses to load unity. (currently using finch.) reiinstalling unity didn't help.
[17:34] <pc500> ok so somethings jacked with the computer then, it was like it jsut shut down
[17:34] <pc500> While in a large file copy
[17:34] <bean> oh, interesting.
[17:35] <ffisch> ok, i did    echo "tg3" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf > /dev/null      and then     echo "bnx2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[17:35] <agoodm> TJ-, on ubuntu?
[17:35] <ffisch> and then rebooted
[17:35] <TJ-> agoodm: Yes
[17:35] <cloudgeek> bobweaver: i don't want to distrub , but i done all you tell and reboot let me know what i done ,  i made changes  in gksudo getdit  /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[17:35] <cloudgeek> then rebbot it
[17:35] <ffisch> but when i did dhclient eth0 it didnt work like last time.
[17:35] <TJ-> agoodm: bean I found this from 2005 Redhat glibc but that's upstream a long time https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=161181
[17:35] <ffisch> i did modprobe bnx2 to see what was going on and got
[17:36] <ffisch> http://pastebin.com/Gy6ePagM
[17:36] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: poke
[17:36] <cloudgeek> bobweaver: current state is eth1 is my 802.11 , airodump-ng giving me error let me explain more and clear more claer all things till than keep working on your task
[17:36] <gr33n7007h> 1 sec im checking
[17:36] <agoodm> TJ-, its a centos 6 box, just updating it now and the update servers seem slooooow
[17:37] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: i rebooted and did dhclient eth0 and that didnt work so i did modprobe bnx2 and gotr this http://pastebin.com/Gy6ePagM
[17:37] <BluesKaj> ffisch, sudo modprobe bnx2 , you need permissions to load the driver
[17:37] <ffisch> BluesKaj: what about the warning?
[17:38] <ffisch> BluesKaj: it sounds like tg3 is not being blacklisted
[17:38] <jave> hello
[17:38] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, you forgot the blacklist in front of tg3    echo "blacklist tg3" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf > /dev/null
[17:38] <ffisch> oh
[17:38] <ffisch> ok
[17:38] <bean> agoodm: heh, yum repos are really slow.
[17:38] <ffisch> so do it again?
[17:38] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, sorry my fault
[17:38] <ffisch> ok
[17:38] <gr33n7007h> yes please
[17:38] <ffisch> so ill try it again
[17:39] <ffisch> brb
[17:39] <ffisch> rebooting
[17:39] <agoodm> bean, quick to download but taking a long time to actually start downloading which is annoying :(
[17:39] <jave> I'm trying to upgrade a 9.04 install but its surprisingly difficult. Im trying the "alternate" cd method to version 9.10
[17:39] <cloudgeek> bobweaver: b2b ,rebooting , got some idea let me put it on
[17:39] <jave> is there a known working method?
[17:40] <agoodm> http://pastebin.com/v5qvtW2A
[17:40] <sajjad> is it a support group
[17:40] <sajjad> ?
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> jave, first be make sure you are backed up, really a fresh install is the fastest and most reliable OS most likely but look here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/
[17:42] <agoodm> there disable fastest mirror plugin so it uses a different mirror, much better
[17:43] <jave> wilee-nilee: okay, I think I already read most of that.
[17:43] <nb-ben> hmm I just installed gnome-shell but I cannot get it to work properly on my dual monitors
[17:43] <nb-ben> it works fine only when I run it on a single monitor
[17:43] <gzy> hi, my partition just got remounted as readonly after a "journalling error" should I just restart? it's never happend before.
[17:43] <wilee-nilee> jave, cool, I would do a fresh install but that is me I never upgrade.
[17:44] <gzy> is there something i should do before restarting, as long as i still have internet access and a working system?
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> jave, that is easy for me as I have little in the multiple OS that are on the Hd the stuf I want is on externals.
[17:45] <uffs> So I'm still tackling with my bcm4312 card on ubuntu 12.04
[17:45] <cloudgeek> on ubuntu 12.04 it is giving me error with airodump-ng  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1149201/
[17:46] <jazzkovsky> after updating, my precise pangolin doesn't load the starting screen. Instead I get a shell prompt. Any ideas how to fix this?
[17:46] <uffs> I've installed wl from scratch following http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[17:46] <TJ-> agoodm: bean: I've just read a post on the bind-users mailing list suggesting that if DNSSEC is in use the replies can be bigger than 512 bytes, triggering the issue
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> uffs, you have seen the wiki?
[17:46] <ghabit> Hello. I have two lines @ /etc/rc.local . First is 'sleep 60 && service minidlna force-reload' second is 'exit 0' .  But after boot minidlna is not working. But I can start it myself with 'sudo service minidlna force-reload'. Advise me please.
[17:46] <agoodm> TJ-, yes I am using dns sec
[17:46] <DemiStar> Hello Everyone!!!
[17:46] <uffs> and now `rfkill list` looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/1149197/
[17:46] <TJ-> agoodm: try the same query with dig's -dnssec
[17:46] <uffs> and there is a new eth1 interface in iwconfig
[17:46] <uffs> but the led is still orange (off)
[17:47] <nico__> hi
[17:47] <uffs> and network-manager-applet is still unaware of no wireless
[17:47] <uffs> wilee-nilee: yes I did
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> cool
[17:47] <jazzkovsky> by starting screen i mean the login screen
[17:49] <agoodm> TJ-, do you mean dig dnssec xvideos.com ?
[17:49] <DemiStar> I have a "Black Screen" issue after upgrading Nvidia Driver.... how can I fix using live CD, as I cannot even do
[17:49] <DemiStar> alternate login screen
[17:50] <agoodm> this being a dnssec related issue would make sense to me since dnssec isnt enabled on any client systems yet...
[17:52] <agoodm> http://pastebin.com/nMMSD1QL
[17:52] <BluesKaj> DemiStar, black screen after or before login screen ?
[17:52] <agoodm> dig +dnssec works great
[17:52] <agoodm> without truncated
[17:53] <cloudgeek> anybody can help getting problem with airodump http://paste.ubuntu.com/1149201/
[17:53] <i0x71> hey,  i am seeing a large number of packets being dropped on the interface, however the udp errors in netstat -us and retransmits in netstat -st arent growing, is there any other way to find out which packets are being dropped
[17:53] <nico__> salve
[17:53] <TJ-> agoodm: bean: this might be relevant: https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2011-April/007181.html
[17:53] <DemiStar> BluesKaj, it's before login, after grub boot  screen
[17:54] <TJ-> agoodm: +nocdflag I think?
[17:54] <TJ-> agoodm: or is it +nodnssec ? I get confused
[17:54] <iElectric> hi! any idea how to tell network-manager to save wifi password for current use and not globally and thus not ask for root password?
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[17:54] <iElectric> for current user*
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> jmm
[17:54] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset |DemiStar
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[17:55] <miceiken> How do I check diskspace? :p
[17:55] <TJ-> iElectric: On nm-applets Wifi properties tab, deselect "Available to all users" might be what you need
[17:55] <agoodm> TJ-, I did dig +dnssec xvideos.com to get that result
[17:55] <agoodm> without the dnssec part it just truncates and fails on ubuntu
[17:55] <iElectric> TJ-: but that's specific for a network
[17:55] <iElectric> I want to set it globally
[17:56] <TJ-> miceiken: in a terminal: "df"   or "du </path/to/check/usage>"
[17:56] <TJ-> agoodm: Solved then
[17:56] <miceiken> TJ-, any way to not get in bytes?:P
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> cloudgeek  what's airodump?
[17:56] <TJ-> miceiken: check "man df" and "man du" for options. For du you can get human sizes with "-h" and a summary with "-s"
[17:56] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: here is what i did after rebooting: http://pastebin.com/4T0j4wPC
[17:56] <TJ-> agoodm: Thanks, good to know
[17:56] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: and then this is my blacklist.conf
[17:56] <ffisch> http://pastebin.com/HC45Fzb7
[17:56] <ffisch> maybe i have to refresh it or something?
[17:56] <pc500> mrdn:  - Ok, digging through the logs it says "critical temperature reached, shutting down"
[17:56] <pc500> Any way to disable that?
[17:56] <ffisch> like update grub, maybe this needs a command for changes to take effect too?
[17:56] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: poke
[17:57] <cloudgeek> MonkeyDust: airodump is freak kind of thing ! just google it out might be get it ! it is something that use oriendted only
[17:57] <pc500> mrdn:  - Everytime I copy a large file batch it does that.  I know the laptop is a piece of junk, but it works fine in other OSes even with its temp issues
[17:57] <TJ-> pc500: Open it up and clean out the heatsink and fan!
[17:57] <agoodm> TJ-, is the way to resolve this to disable dnssec on my local resolver or something?
[17:58] <pc500> TJ-:  - Sometimes it just heats up, I do not know why and it's not consistent, but it suggests a fan/controllr type issue
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> agoodm  this is a family friendly channel, don't ask advice on that kind of sites
[17:58] <pc500> Economically, it's not worth fixing though
[17:58] <pc500> It works fine
[17:58] <TJ-> pc500: Or, if the fans don't seem to spinning up when using Ubuntu, investigate the thermal cooling controls side. In the past there were a spate of systems that wouldn't run their fans with Ubuntu. That was 4 years ago though
[17:58] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: , BluesKaj , if you have anything else for me to try, please /msg me. i am going to be afk for a few minurtes ;-)
[17:58] <BluesKaj> ffisch, did you run sudo dhclient eth0
[17:58] <agoodm> MonkeyDust, on my first mention I mentioned nsfw, secondly I am only using that hostname because its one that triggers the issues and no other reason
[17:58] <Aidas> Hello
[17:58] <pc500> TJ-:  - And the system is that old (or older)
[17:58] <pc500> :)
[17:59] <TJ-> pc500: I've saved countless systems by simply cleaning all the dust out of the fans/heatsinks using compressed air and a paintbrush
[17:59] <DemiStar> ubottu, Thank you, I'll check it out, anything I can do as a Temp fix with Live USB
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> agoodm  don't mention that kind of sites here
[17:59] <DemiStar> ubottu, lol
[17:59] <ffisch> BluesKaj: yes i did
[17:59] <pc500> TJ-:  - I've sprayed air in the fan/heatsink pipe and related areas, but that's about it.  It's intermittent and doesn't seem to be related to a current load
[17:59] <ffisch> nothing happened
[17:59] <TJ-> pc500: I have 10+ year old notebooks here, they keep going strong with a little TLC (clean them with the compressor occasionally)
[17:59] <pc500> some days it gets hot, other days it doesn't
[18:00] <BluesKaj> ffisch, and what does network manager say when you try to connect with it.
[18:00] <pc500> Almost like it just doesn't turn on, but I never cared.
[18:00] <ffisch> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/4T0j4wPC
[18:00] <ghabit> Hello. I have two lines @ /etc/rc.local . First is 'sleep 60 && service minidlna force-reload' second is 'exit 0' .  But after boot minidlna is not working. But I can start it myself with 'sudo service minidlna force-reload'. Advise me please.
[18:00] <Aidas> I have some problems with my ubuntu on my notebook, after last reboot, nvidia drivers stopped working, and resolution stuck on 800x600 instead of 1280x800 and i dont know what to do, is there anyone who can suggest me something?
[18:00] <ffisch> I have uninstalled network-manager
[18:00] <TJ-> pc500: Probably you'll find it happens when some process hogs the CPU for extended periods. You can check using "top" in a terminal window. You can also install a sensors package to monitor temperatures
[18:00] <pc500> TJ-:  - Anyways, I just need to get this data off at this point.  Other oses like Windows 7 work fine
[18:00] <ffisch> BluesKaj: I have uninstalled network-manager
[18:00] <pc500> Yes it feels "warm" on my lap, but works ok
[18:01] <pc500> I just need something temporary quite frankly.
[18:01] <ffisch> BluesKaj: here is my blacklist.conf http://pastebin.com/HC45Fzb7
[18:01] <TJ-> pc500: Try the package xsensors that has a GUI you can put on-screen to watch the temperatures at least
[18:01] <agoodm> TJ-, I disabled dnssec on my local resolver yet the issue still seems to persist for 'that host name' on my ubuntu box :-/
[18:01] <BluesKaj> ffisch, always use sudo modprobe bnx2
[18:01] <TJ-> pc500: Yes, I saw you said that, which is why I think its more to do with the OS not operating the fans effeciently
[18:01] <jazzkovsky> sorry for reposting. I'm not sure if I made myself clear, though. using precise pangolin. for some strange reason, after updating and rebooting, i don't get any graphical interface anymore (i.e: no login screen, no unity ...). any hints?
[18:02] <ffisch> BluesKaj: ok
[18:02] <TJ-> agoodm: did you clear the local cache?
[18:02] <Aidas> anyone?
[18:02] <ffisch> BluesKaj: will that fix it?
[18:02] <agoodm> using the nscd thing?
[18:02] <TJ-> pc500: whats the make/model?
[18:02] <pc500> TJ-:  - Lenovo w500
[18:02] <TJ-> agoodm: yes... worth a shot!
[18:02] <bitbuzzer> hi ppl. I'm installing an app (sublime text 2) via the net, downloading a tar.bz2 file. Is there a way to install it so that it "registers" with the OS, and shows up on Search?
[18:02] <agoodm> TJ-, yes an its the same
[18:02] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, try putting a couples of lines in rc.local
[18:03] <ffisch> ok
[18:03] <BluesKaj> ffisch, that command loads the driver , your blacklisted driver looks like it's in use
[18:03] <ffisch> do you have lines for me?
[18:03] <TJ-> pc500: see http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion-Knowledge-Base/Why-is-W500-hotter-when-running-Linux-Thinkpad-General/ta-p/313730
[18:03] <ffisch> oops, gtg for a bit bbl
[18:03] <TJ-> agoodm: I think you'd have to run a network trace (wireshark) and check what's going on, on the wire
[18:03] <Aidas> cool chat :D
[18:03] <pc500> ok well I can disable the graphics (I don't care about it)
[18:03] <Aidas> whazzza
[18:03] <Aidas> :D :D
[18:03] <ffisch> BluesKaj, gr33n7007h : bbl
[18:03] <ffisch> afk
[18:04] <agoodm> TJ-, yeah I agree
[18:04] <TJ-> pc500: also see LP bug #751689
[18:04] <BluesKaj> ok , too many cooks ...I'll back off for now
[18:04] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, sudo -i; nano /etc/rc.local; rmmod tg3; rmmod bnx2; modprobe bnx2; save then reboot
[18:05] <jeyabal> jjs
[18:05] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, STRESS make sure exit 0; is at the bottom of the lines
[18:09] <s_> j /#reprap.no
[18:09] <s_> join /#reprap.no
[18:09] <Slart> bitbuzzer: what kind of system are you running? graphics card? what happens when it starts up? it just goes to black? errors on a text screen?
[18:10] <bitbuzzer> Slart: ubuntu 32bit, the app starts fine, but when I hit the (Windows) key to do a search in the system, it doesnt see it.
[18:11] <bitbuzzer> Slart: I usually just extract it to my home folder, and run it from there, but when I install packages they are "registered" in the searc
[18:11] <ghabit> Hello. I have two lines @ /etc/rc.local . First is 'sleep 60 && service minidlna force-reload' second is 'exit 0' .  But after boot minidlna is not working. But I can start it myself with 'sudo service minidlna force-reload'. Advise me please.
[18:12] <TJ-> bitbuzzer: You'd need to install a .desktop file for it
[18:12] <Sagenth> I am trying to install java, downloaded from oracle's website.. v1.7. I downloaded the rpm and converted it using alien.. installed using software centre, but I need to know its directory that it is installed to. I need help finding the installation directory. Please help
[18:12] <bitbuzzer> TJ-: newb....not sure how to do that.
[18:12] <bitbuzzer> TJ-: I'll google it...thx
[18:13] <OerHeks> !java | Sagenth
[18:13] <cloudgeek> bobweaver: hey it works , my wlan0 yep , airodump starts working yeah
[18:13] <TJ-> bitbuzzer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[18:13] <cloudgeek> bobweaver: you help me a lot
[18:13] <Slart> bitbuzzer: bah.. sorry.. got the nicks mixed up.. that question wasn't for you..sorry... but to at least give you something for your trouble =) Have you looked at checkinstall? I've got sublime text installed myself but I didn't bother making a package out of it
[18:13] <OerHeks> Sagenth, i cannot support alien/rpm troubles.
[18:13] <Sagenth> I need the jdk I am trying to use netbeans
[18:13] <Sagenth> trying to fix a problem launching netbeans in fact
[18:14] <bitbuzzer> Slart: what is checkinstall? does it create packages?
[18:14] <lesshaste> is it possible to invert a black on white pdf to make it white on black?
[18:14] <Debolaz> Sagenth: Try http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[18:15] <Brady> Hey guys, I'm trying to get WebGL to work but all I get is a white screen
[18:15] <Brady> I have the latest version of chrome
[18:15] <Brady> and integrated graphics
[18:15] <Brady> intel 4 series
[18:15] <Sagenth> ubottu I have all those installed already, I am trying to install the ones directly from Oracle opposed to these openjdks. Netbeans freezes on the splash screen when loading and I figure this may be a way to fix it. I am trying to expend all troubleshooting routes
[18:15] <Slart> bitbuzzer: yes, it creates packages from source code, if I remember correctly.. not sure if it handles binary stuff that isn't compiled
[18:15] <Brady> I also have restricted extras installed
[18:15]  * Debolaz pokes Sagenth
[18:16] <Sagenth> Debolaz, I have all those installed already, I am trying to install the ones directly from Oracle opposed to these openjdks. Netbeans freezes on the splash screen when loading and I figure this may be a way to fix it. I am trying to expend all troubleshooting routes
[18:16] <Brady> any ideas?
[18:16] <Slart> !checkinstall
[18:16] <Sagenth> lol didn't realize it was a bot
[18:16] <Debolaz> Sagenth: That *is* the one from Oracle.
[18:17] <Sagenth> It doesn't appear to mention the directory of the installation. I need to point Netbeans to the jdk manually
[18:17] <Brady> anyone here have trouble with webgl but eventually get it working?
[18:17] <bitbuzzer> Slart: alright, seems like the safer / easier route here is to skip the packaging and just use it :)
[18:18] <nb-ben> anyone running gnome-shell with proprietary nvidia drivers?
[18:18] <nb-ben> meh. brb
[18:19] <Slart> bitbuzzer: yes. that's what I'm planning on doing.. I think it pretty much keeps to its install directory so it shouldn't be that hard to purge if you want to
[18:20] <Peetee> nb-ben: driver installed but not used :)
[18:22] <Sagenth> Debolaz, alright well I will install it anyways. Hopefully it will be in the /usr/lib/jvm/ directory once installed
[18:24] <Sander^home> Is there any software to take a video of a window in ubuntu?
[18:24] <morsnowski> yes
[18:24] <yeats> Sander^home: check out recordmydesktop (and recordmydesktop-gtk)
[18:25] <morsnowski> Sander^home, or istanbul. it's even in the repo
[18:25] <Sander^home> What's best?
[18:25] <morsnowski> which ever works best for you :)
[18:25] <ffisch> back
[18:26] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, sudo -i; nano /etc/rc.local; rmmod tg3; rmmod bnx2; modprobe bnx2; save then reboot
[18:26] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: so add this to rc.local? http://pastebin.com/qQJgbYT6
[18:27] <Brady> Hey guys, what's the best way to go about getting drivers for my integrated intel chipset?
[18:27] <ffisch> does rc.local already have anything in it?
[18:27] <ffisch> or am i creating a newfile?
[18:27] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, STRESS make sure exit 0; is at the bottom of the lines
[18:27] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, it's already there
[18:27] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: what do you mean?
[18:28] <ffisch> about exit 0?
[18:28] <_skpl> can someone help me? i installed ubuntu 12.04 to a usb drive and now when i remove the drive and try to boot into windows from my hard drive i ge an error and a grub rescue prompt.
[18:28] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, put them 3 line above the exit 0;
[18:28] <gr33n7007h> in the rc,local file
[18:28] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: ah ok
[18:28] <ffisch> so put them right above "exit 0"
[18:28] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, yes
[18:28] <ffisch> ok
[18:28] <ffisch> exit 0; is already there?
[18:29] <morsnowski> _skpl, my guess is you installed grub to the usb drive
[18:29] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, yes
[18:29] <Brady> _skpl doesn't look like you installed it to boot from usb only
[18:29] <morsnowski> _skpl, and had grub change the mbr of the local disk
[18:29] <morsnowski> lol
[18:29] <Brady> _skpl you'll have to boot into ubuntu and change grub to point to windows
[18:30] <_skpl> Brady, how do i do that
[18:30] <Brady> you hosed your windows boot loader
[18:30] <Brady> boot into ubuntu
[18:30] <_skpl> im in ubuntu
[18:30] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: after editing rc.local, reboot and do sudo dhclient eth0?
[18:30] <Brady> google how to dual boot ubuntu and windows
[18:30] <Brady> it should show you how to get grub to point to windows
[18:30] <ghost_cz> hello i'm having my time with empathy, need help
[18:30] <IdleOne> _skpl: sudo apt-get install os-prober && sudo os-prober
[18:30] <Brady> You want to change the config
[18:30] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, yes
[18:30] <ffisch> and then try googling something?
[18:31] <ffisch> to test my connection?
[18:31] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, then ping -c 3 <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:31] <IdleOne> _skpl: os-prober will check for other OS'es and add them to grub so you can chose them at boot time
[18:31] <ffisch> ok
[18:31] <ffisch> should dhclient eth0 loop forever?
[18:31] <ffisch> or will it finish
[18:31] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, no, it's looping because it cant assign an ip address
[18:31] <ffisch> oh ok
[18:32] <ffisch> rebooting
[18:32] <_skpl> IdleOne, the problem is not loadingw indows from grub, i can do that, but when i disconnect the usb drive the hard drive wont load windows, i get a grub rescue prompt
[18:32] <ghost_cz> hello, i need help with EMPATHY
[18:32] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, ok
[18:32] <Brady> oh
[18:32] <IdleOne> _skpl: ah, in that case you need to fixmbr with your windows disc. see ##windows for more help with that
[18:32] <morsnowski> _skpl, yes it starts from the main HD but then looks for the boot dir on the usb drive
[18:32] <Andril> hey ActionParsnip, still got the issue with Vuze package not updating in 12.04
[18:33] <_skpl> IdleOne, thank you
[18:33] <Brady> is there a grub option that will allow it to ignore the missing usb drive?
[18:33] <ghost_cz> how do i get attention here?
[18:33] <IdleOne> ghost_cz: you ask your question and wait patiently :)
[18:33] <morsnowski> ghost_cz, just shouot really loud
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Andril: all I can advise is look for a ppa
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | Andril
[18:34] <ghost_cz> :D, well i just have doubts that anyone has seen my question
[18:34] <SolomonKane> !atom
[18:34] <IdleOne> ghost_cz: we see you
[18:34] <ghost_cz> :), u know empathy IM?
[18:35] <IdleOne> ghost_cz: Please ask your real question. We can't help if we don't know the problem
[18:35] <Andril> ok
[18:35] <Nickey> hi all, anyone here who has some insights into Desktop Search Tools that allow to use one index per mount point, and can be set to store indexes inside encrypted containers?
[18:35] <SolomonKane> I have an asus netbook here and im trying to install from a USB.  The installer isnt detectig the hard drive.  It is not listed in fidsk -l or df, eiher.
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Nickey: updatedb stores one for all
[18:36] <ghost_cz> its gonna be little longer, the problem is i cannot login to my facebook chat with empathy, i disabled all authetication functions in fb, yet no luck, perhaps it might be caused by my password which contains special characters
[18:37] <SolomonKane> I have an asus netbook here and im trying to install from a USB.  The installer isnt detectig the hard drive.  It is not listed in fidsk -l or df, eiher.  Any ideas?  The installer is only finding the USD partition.  Help?
[18:37] <IdleOne> ghost_cz: I don't use empathy but aiui you need to allow the application in FB before it will let you connect
[18:37] <t0ntin> Hi, all. I'm trying to use my new all-in-one machine to scan using Simple Scan, but it's telling me "no scanners detected". I have installed the printer drivers from the control panel. How do I get it to scan? Thanks.
[18:37] <zloz> how to disable "/msg" before "*Serv" message?
[18:38] <zloz> can some one help?
[18:38] <IdleOne> zloz: which client?
[18:38] <zloz> qutim
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> t0ntin: what make and model ??
[18:39] <t0ntin> actionparsnip canon pixma  mg2120
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> t0ntin: did you check the canon europe site for drivers?
[18:39] <zloz> if i type jst chanserv or any other command whitout /msg nothing to do
[18:39] <zloz> **do nothing
[18:40] <t0ntin> actionparsnip, no. Do you have the address?
[18:40] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: looks like we are getting somewhere, but i am still not connected
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> t0ntin: search, you'll find it
[18:40] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: sudo dhclient eth0    outputs     Cannot find device "eth0"
[18:41] <IdleOne> zloz: I have no idea but wutim has a forum http://qutim.org/forum/ try there
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> t0ntin: seems there is no driver by Canon there
[18:41] <IdleOne> qutim*
[18:41] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: so what does that mean?
[18:41] <t0ntin> hmmm
[18:41] <fission6> if i have a source repo and i configure, make, make install - can i delete the source code folder once done?
[18:41] <IdleOne> yes
[18:41] <ffisch> is it the wrong driver?
[18:41] <IdleOne> fission6: yes.
[18:41] <fission6> IdleOne: is that to me
[18:41] <Star_Light> is there any channel for VB.NET ???
[18:41] <fission6> thank ya
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> t0ntin: http://www.driverlook.com/canon-pixma-mg2140-mg2150-printer-driver-linux-mac/
[18:42] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: poke
[18:42] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, im here
[18:42] <t0ntin> actionparsnip, I'll check. Thanks.
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> t0ntin: you want the debian files, not the rpms
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> Star_Light  better ask in #windows
[18:42] <zloz> IdleOne, can be it May be due to your server, not the client?
[18:42] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: did you see what i said?
[18:42] <gr33n7007h> no what?
[18:43] <doug_f> What is the best method to extend my keyboard and mouse to another computer? I am trying synergy but it doesn't seem to work.
[18:43] <IdleOne> zloz: what is it you want to do exactly? pass commands to the server without typing the leading /msg ?
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> doug_f: there is no single best method to achieve anything, in any OS
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> doug_f  synergy is the best or even only way
[18:43] <smithw> Hi, is there a way I can force the Rotate Cube plugin to accept a keystroke instead of a mouse button to initiate the rotation?
[18:43] <smithw> ^ This referring to the compiz plugin, of course.
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> smithw  ccsm > keybindings
[18:44] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: sudo dhclient eth0    outputs     Cannot find device "eth0"
[18:44] <doug_f> ActionParsnip, can you offer an alternative?
[18:44] <gr33n7007h> what does ifconfig output now
[18:44] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, ^^^
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> doug_f: http://www.ctrlv.ca/2010/04/163/
[18:44] <ffisch> i will reboot and find out ;0
[18:44] <ffisch> *;)
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> !info x2x
[18:44] <zloz> IdleOne,  that`s right
[18:44] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, oki doki
[18:44] <ffisch> brb
[18:45] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[18:45] <smithw> MonkeyDust, on CCSM the only option available is to set a mouse button as initiator, not a keystroke... (CCSM -> Desktop -> Rotate Cube -> Initiate)
[18:45] <pi_squared> !info latex
[18:45] <IdleOne> zloz: I don't know qutim. best advice i can give you is ask on the qutim forums. I'm guessing there is a way to create an alias but I don't know
[18:45] <ghost_cz> i'm back with no luck, i have found in security settings of facebook function: passwords to applications, i wrote Empathy and it generated the code, with i wanted to log in as password, no luck, so how exactly should i allow empathy in facebook?
[18:47] <bittyx-windows> hi all, i've installed ubuntu 12.04 and gnome, and i'm using the gnome classic desktop. however, i can't seem to add widgets to my taskbar (e.g. the network monitor). i could do this in 9.10 by right clicking on the taskbar and choosing "add to panel" but this no longer works. i've also read that alt+right click will do what i want, but nothing happens when i try that either.
[18:47] <zloz> IdleOne, creating alias is to simple shut...
[18:47] <bittyx-windows> any advice?
[18:47] <IdleOne> zloz: what?
[18:48] <morsnowski_> bittyx-windows, works for me
[18:48] <morsnowski_> i'm on 12.04/64 gnome
[18:48] <savio> hello
[18:48] <ghost_cz> IdleOne: i'm back with no luck, i have found in security settings of facebook function: passwords to applications, i wrote Empathy and it generated the code, with i wanted to log in as password, no luck, so how exactly should i allow empathy in facebook?
[18:49] <bittyx-windows> morsnowski_: i'm on 12.04/32 gnome classic, but that shouldn't matter, right? oh well, if anyone else has any tips, thanks in advance
[18:49] <zloz> IdleOne, create alias for /msg *Serv - to simple solution.
[18:49] <savio> is there any way to create fake size file
[18:49] <jazzkovsky> howto burn an iso using shell (bash) only?
[18:49] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: back
[18:49] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, kkszysiu_work
[18:49] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, woops
[18:49] <ffisch> http://pastebin.com/JQkEMGTN
[18:49] <ffisch> that's what happens
[18:50] <zloz> Can this depend not from client?
[18:50] <morsnowski_> bittyx-windows, I'm on classic too. not sure what is the holdup with yours. dod you get any response if you move the cursor onto the panel hold alt and press the right mouse button?
[18:50] <bittyx-windows> morsnowski_: oh, i've found it after some googling - it seems to be windows+alt+right click (and that works for me)
[18:50] <bittyx-windows> that's weird
[18:50] <zloz> I expect this is due to the anope-settings
[18:50] <morsnowski_> all as long as it works
[18:50] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, thats not good
[18:50] <bittyx-windows> morsnowski_: nope, alt+right click does absolutely nothing, but win+alt+right click works...
[18:50] <bittyx-windows> oh well, whatever. thanks anyway
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> jazzkovsky: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning#Burning_a_CD_or_DVD_using_Command_Line_tools
[18:51] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: i think tg3 /is/ the correct driver
[18:51] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, remove the 3 lines from rc.local
[18:51] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, do you know your default gateway
[18:51] <ffisch> ok then what?
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> jazzkovsky: e.g:    sudo wodim dev=/dev/cdrw -v -data ~/cdimage.iso
[18:51] <morsnowski_> i get add to panel,properties, delete this panel, new panel
[18:51] <ffisch> we will be right back where we started
[18:51] <bittyx-windows> morsnowski_: i get the same, but only with win+alt+right click.
[18:52] <bittyx-windows> morsnowski_: anyway, thanks for your time
[18:52] <morsnowski_> :)
[18:52] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, we'll try to do it the manual way
[18:52] <ffisch> http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/netlink_k57.php
[18:52] <zloz> fff
[18:52] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: ok
[18:52] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: so what should i do?
[18:52] <Sander^home> I tried to use istanbul to record a window. but it blinks black alot in the recording. Anyone know why?
[18:53] <IdleOne> ghost_cz: take a look at this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1487433&page=5 might help you.
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> Sander^home  try kazam
[18:53] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, just remove the 3 line from rc.local
[18:53] <jazzkovsky> howto mark and copy text in finch?
[18:53] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: can you pastebin a bunch of commands and i can pastebin results?
[18:53] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: ok
[18:53] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, yeak ok 1 sec
[18:53] <designbybeck> and Sander^home MonkeyDust make sure you get the latest Kazam from the ppa
[18:53] <ffisch> i will do that and then come back here.
[18:53] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: oh ok
[18:53] <designbybeck> or Ubuntu 12.04 might not work right... at least that is hwow it was for me
[18:53] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, ok
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> designbybeck  don't advice ppa's here, they tend to be unstable and are not supporrted here
[18:54] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: what do you want me to do?
[18:54] <designbybeck> Ah
[18:54] <savio> channel for bugsqurd is ?
[18:54] <designbybeck> the Kazam developer advised it
[18:54] <designbybeck> so that is why i said it
[18:54] <Sander^home> designbybeck, MonkeyDust I'm running 10.04 and don't have kazam or recordmydesktop-gtk
[18:55] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, remove them 3 lines from rc.local then come bk here
[18:55] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: will do :)
[18:55] <designbybeck> In that case Sander^home Kazam from USC should work
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> Sander^home  is kazam not in the 10.04 repos? maybe it's time to uograde to 12.04 then
[18:56] <ghost_cz> IdleOne: i had created a username and entered that
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Sander^home: there may be a PPA, i'd recommend an upgrade too
[18:56] <savio> anyone?
[18:56] <Sander^home> I'll try gtk-recordmydesktop Seems gtk was at the front instead in the name
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> !alis | savio
[18:57] <jazzkovsky> ActionParsnip: ty
[19:01] <helino> hi, does anyone know if se.archive.ubuntu.com is down?
[19:01] <zloz> any from russia?
[19:01] <fidel> !ru > zloz
[19:02] <zloz> wow)) Cool bot)))
[19:02] <bj0rn2> anyone else having issues reaching se.archive.ubuntu.com ? is there a simple way to change this mirror to another?
[19:02] <zloz> i like it))
[19:03] <helino> bj0rn2: i'm having issues as well
[19:03] <savio> is there any way to create fake size file
[19:03] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: i removed those lines
[19:04] <bekks> savio: What do you mean by "fake size file"?
[19:04] <ghost_cz> IdleOne: i have set username before and entered it, still no luck :(
[19:04] <savio> like file having 2 kb actual size but show that it's 5 gb
[19:04] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1149315/
[19:04] <IdleOne> ghost_cz: sorry, don't know what to tell you.
[19:04] <zloz> !ru > zloz
[19:04] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, you on windows now?
[19:05] <ghost_cz> IdleOne: u spoke of allowing the app in facebook, what u meant?
[19:05] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: yes
[19:05] <bj0rn2> I was able to change mirror in the ubuntu software central application
[19:05] <ffisch> after running those commands, what should i do?
[19:05] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, type: ipconfig in cmd whats the default gateway
[19:05] <ffisch> ok
[19:05] <helino> bj0rn2: ok, I'm looking into how to change from the cmd line
[19:05] <IdleOne> ghost_cz: I meant that i thought FB required you to give permission to the app to allow it to connect. I don't know how else to help you though.
[19:06] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: default gateway: <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:06] <jazzkovsky> Is it possible to mark and copy/paste text in bash (no desktop)?
[19:07] <HartmutMehdorn> is there anything like fusecompress in ubuntu's repositories?
[19:07] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, can you pastebin me ipconfig /all
[19:07] <ghost_cz> IdleOne: still i thank for your time, well it seems its up to bro, he has installed ubuntu here instead of win, which is good, it will be optimised forever unlike windows, which performance lets just say, detoriates :)
[19:07] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: sure
[19:08] <basz> hi having a little trouble getting sftp into a chroot'd account going. Old accounts work but newer ones don't. After ssh'ing into the account i do cd /usr/lib/openssh && ./sftp-server - which gives me No user found for uid 5056… Any thought on how to solve this?
[19:10] <helino> for all the swedes having trouble with se.archive.ubuntu.com, you can change to the use mirror by changing /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:10] <basz> I'm on Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS by the way
[19:10] <helino> change se.archive.ubuntu.com to us.archive.ubuntu.com every in the file, and you will use the US mirror
[19:11] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1149336/
[19:11] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: poke
[19:12] <phunyguy> ok UGH.  I am getting really frustrated at this.  For some reason, /usr/bin?X wants to start eating 100% of one core. It does it on all of my workstations!
[19:12] <phunyguy> /usr/bin/X **
[19:12] <phunyguy> is anyone else experiencing this?
[19:13] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: are you still here?
[19:13] <morsnowski_> ffisch, that looks about right, what is the output of 'ping www.google.com'
[19:13] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, go bk to linux and do this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1149341/
[19:14] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: ok will paste results
[19:14] <ffisch> rebooting
[19:14] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, ok thanks
[19:14] <bartmon> hi. Can someone who uses NetworkManager post their config from  /etc/network/interfaces. I messed it up...
[19:14] <sx> what is the easiest way to be able to send outgoing mail from ubuntu server?
[19:14] <sx> and free
[19:15] <jazzkovsky> ok ... I'm stuck with the terminology, I think. What is the name for the text-based shell of ubuntu?
[19:15] <mbeierl> phunyguy, no, but is it possible that you are not using an accelerated driver for your video card?  That would put more load on the CPU to do the work that the GPU should be doing
[19:15] <guntbert> jazzkovsky: install gpm
[19:15] <guntbert> !info gpm | jazzkovsky
[19:16] <jazzkovsky> guntbert: nice. thanks.
[19:16] <mbeierl> phunyguy, what graphics card do you have? (lspci | grep VGA)
[19:16] <guntbert> jazzkovsky: no problem :)
[19:18] <sx> any recommendations for simple outgoing mail set up?
[19:18] <peter1_> After new instal of Kubuntu 12.04 I can't find skype or google earth in the Software-Manager (Muon) What can I do
[19:19] <bartmon> hi. Can someone the contents of  /etc/network/interfaces. I messed it up...
[19:19] <cloudgeek> how to kill any process by name like airmon-ng
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> cloudgeek  pkill
[19:20] <KenSentMe2> Hi, i'm having some troubles with a fresh install. I get a grub error 17 on loading. I tried fixing it from a live cd with this tutorial, but that didn't work http://stringofthoughts.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/grub-error-17-debianubuntu/
[19:20] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1149355/
[19:20] <cloudgeek> i tried top , ps a-u , pa -ag but didn't find the process but i know it is ruuning on my system how get pid of this
[19:20] <morsnowski_> bartmon,
[19:20] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: poke
[19:20] <OerHeks> cloudgeek, get the PID with TOP, and pkill -9 <PID>
[19:20] <morsnowski_> auto lo
[19:20] <morsnowski_> iface lo inet loopback
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> bartmon  it's different for each machine
[19:20] <bartmon> morsnowski_: thanks
[19:21] <bartmon> MonkeyDust: nyeah, if it is manually configured. OTherwise it just contains loopback
[19:21] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1149355/
[19:21] <KenSentMe2> !grub
[19:21] <morsnowski_> ffisch, can you ping your gateway and tell us what you get?
[19:21] <ffisch> ok
[19:21] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, I you just connect router?
[19:22] <guntbert> cloudgeek: try pgrep airmon
[19:22] <asgard20032> Sorry for the join flood... had little connection issue
[19:22] <cloudgeek> guntbert: oky
[19:22] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: ???
[19:22] <ffisch> how?
[19:22] <ffisch> in linux or windows?
[19:23] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, Are you just connect to a router at home?
[19:23] <jazzkovsky> guntbert: ok, i installed gpm, so now I'm able to mark text. but howto copy/paste? ctrl+c doesn't work.
[19:23] <cloudgeek> guntbert: not at a all let me reboot it
[19:23] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: yes
[19:23] <ffisch> i am connected to a router
[19:24] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, I just don't know then i'm puzzled?
[19:24] <lucusoid> Hi everyone. Have a little problem with my lan card. Everything works fine including internet and samba sharing. From time to time it disconnects and can be brought up again after a cold restart of the computer and the router. What could be wrong?
[19:24] <guntbert> jazzkovsky: if I remember correctly you press the middle mouse button to paste text
[19:24] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: hmm?
[19:24] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: does that mean you cannot solve the problem?
[19:25] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, yeah i'm out of ideas pal!
[19:25] <morsnowski_> ffisch, can you 'ping <IP_ADDRESS>' and tell us what you get?
[19:25] <ffisch> jazzkovsky: are you trying to copy/paste in bash? Use ctrl+shift+C and ctrl+shift+V
[19:25] <Shadow`> yes go ping that LAN ip
[19:25] <ffisch> morsnowski_: ok
[19:26] <agoodm> ffisch, just got back and noticed your convo still ongoing, what was the problem again?
[19:26] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, hope some1 here will help you ;)
[19:26] <ffisch> agoodm: ubuntu will not connect to the internet but windows will
[19:27] <agoodm> ok and you can ping that IP?
[19:27] <ffisch> details: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12172229
[19:27] <ffisch> agoodm: in linux or windows?
[19:27] <morsnowski_> what is the output of that ping?
[19:28] <agoodm> ffisch, ubuntu precise
[19:28] <ffisch> in windows it just says packages sent, packages received, etc
[19:28] <BluesKaj> ffisch, from the look of your pastes the si9o called blacklisted driver is still in use "Kernel driver in use: tg3"
[19:28] <ffisch> agoodm: oh ok
[19:28] <agoodm> ffisch, can you pastebin the output of the ifconfig command please
[19:28] <jazzkovsky> ffisch: no. currently i don't have a desktop.
[19:28] <agoodm> ah it looks like some of the basic stuff has been tried
[19:28] <BluesKaj> si9o=so
[19:28] <morsnowski_> ffisch, can you 'ping <IP_ADDRESS>' and tell us what you get?
[19:29] <jase_> hello im having shutdown & reboot issues with ubuntu 11.10 i can not find any problems in the logs any body able to help
[19:29] <HartmutMehdorn> is there anything like fusecompress in ubuntu's repositories?
[19:29] <ffisch> agoodm: already did, here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1149369/
[19:29] <guntbert> HartmutMehdorn: what is that?
[19:30] <ffisch> morsnowski_: ok, i'll ping it
[19:30] <ffisch> rebooting
[19:30] <agoodm> ok so wlan card doesnt seem to be enabled or detected properly, what was the outcome of the rfkill troubleshooting?
[19:30] <OerHeks> HartmutMehdorn, yes there is >> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/fusecompress.1.html
[19:30] <ffisch> agoodm: hmm?
[19:31] <jazzkovsky> guntbert: thanks again. now i can paste text from bash to bash. However, I'm using fich and links2 nd need to copy and paste text there i.e. from fich to bsh and from links2 to bash. any ideas?
[19:31] <agoodm> ffisch, were you checking if rfkill was active earlier?
[19:31] <rocketmagnet> hi all
[19:31] <jazzkovsky> guntbert: finch
[19:31] <rocketmagnet> i get cracy with ubuntu
[19:31] <ffisch> agoodm: no
[19:31] <BluesKaj> morsnowski_, he's not using network manager and i don't think he has the network interfaces file configured
[19:31] <agoodm> oh right
[19:31] <NewWorld> jase_:  tell us what the problem is
[19:31] <ffisch> BluesKaj: correct.
[19:31] <agoodm> ok so in a terminal type the command rfkill list and press enter
[19:32] <ffisch> agoodm: so its not my NIC?
[19:32] <morsnowski_> BluesKaj,  he has def getway, ip adrress and all is lloking good at ifconfig
[19:32] <ffisch> ok
[19:32] <ffisch> i will ping and i will do rfkill
[19:32] <rocketmagnet> i've installed blender with apt-get and then downloaded the latest version from the page but when i run my downloaded app i see 2 blender icons in the panel
[19:32] <agoodm> ffisch, from the pastebin of ifconfig I see no wlan card listed so its probably disabled or rfkilled
[19:32] <guntbert> jazzkovsky: sorry, I expected it to work in any program, but I didn't try
[19:32] <ffisch> i dont think i have a wlan card
[19:32] <ffisch> but w/e
[19:32] <rocketmagnet> now i tried to apt-get remove blender and apt-get purge blender but still same result
[19:33] <ffisch> rebooting
[19:33] <HartmutMehdorn> guntbert: transparent compression for fuse
[19:33] <rocketmagnet> i come from debian
[19:33] <agoodm> ffisch, oh sorry I thought it was a wireless issue
[19:33] <HartmutMehdorn> OerHeks: "apt-cache search fusecompress" gives me no result
[19:33] <ffisch> agoodm: no
[19:33] <ffisch> its a wired connection issue :(
[19:33] <jazzkovsky> guntbert: np. ty
[19:33] <agoodm> ffisch, rfkill can also switch off ethernet link so worth checking it
[19:33] <ffisch> which makes troubleshoting very inconvenient
[19:33] <ffisch> ok
[19:33] <ffisch> so
[19:34] <phunyguy> so I find it hard to believe that on 4 workstations, I am experiencing high CPU usage for /usr/bin/X but nobody else is?
[19:34] <agoodm> im not sure the default ubuntu install comes with rfkill :( but try it anyway
[19:34] <ffisch> agoodm: so just do "rfkill" in terminal?
[19:34] <agoodm> ffisch, rfkill list
[19:34] <bean> rocketmagnet: apt-get remove --purge blender
[19:35] <zykotick9> phunyguy: try switching to a non-compiz based DE/WM and see if you still get high CPU usage
[19:35] <agoodm> the ethernet adaptor will be called phy0 as a guess
[19:35] <ffisch> agoodm: so "rfkill list"?
[19:35] <jase_> I have issues with shuting down & rebooting issue is random after selecting shutdown or reboot from gui system starts to shutdown but then freezes i can get to a terminal with alt f1 but can not use keyboard ctrl alt delete does not respond
[19:35] <agoodm> ffisch, yes
[19:35] <ffisch> and then pastebin the results?
[19:35] <ffisch> ok
[19:35] <agoodm> yes
[19:35] <ffisch> ok rebooting
[19:35] <phunyguy> zykotick9: thats the thing, it doesnt happen all the time, but then all of a sudden just happens out of the blue.  I cant do without my second monitor right now.
[19:36] <rocketmagnet> first i try the standalone app then i try the windows version
[19:36] <rocketmagnet> wrong channel
[19:36] <phunyguy> zykotick9: it may actually be related to empathy
[19:36] <phunyguy> and lib-telepathy
[19:37] <phunyguy> or whatever its called
[19:37] <jazzkovsky> howto copy/paste text from links2 to bash (no desktop)? gpm works, but I'm unable to copy text from different programs (such as finch, links2 or nano) to bash so far.
[19:38] <BluesKaj> morsnowski_, ffisch the /etc/network/interfaces file needs ti be configured ,,example ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/1149383/
[19:38] <ejcweb> I seem to randomly loose WiFi connectivity using my office WiFi network, although it appears to stay connected in the notification bar. Syslog reveals a lot of messages the moment it goes down, and I wonder if someone can make sense of what is going on? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=3Grp6fLA
[19:38] <ghabit> Hello. I have two lines @ /etc/rc.local . First is 'sleep 60 && service minidlna force-reload' second is 'exit 0' .  But after boot minidlna is not working. But I can start it myself with 'sudo service minidlna force-reload'. Advise me please.
[19:38] <dfgfh> hi
[19:38] <dfgfh> so i've fixed my wifi
[19:38] <morsnowski_> BluesKaj, he has an ip and gateway set
[19:38] <dfgfh> but now by cable connection wouldn't work
[19:38] <dfgfh> on ubuntu 12.04
[19:39] <dfgfh> probook 4720s
[19:39] <dfgfh> what on earth could this mean
[19:39] <dfgfh> i mingled with my bios a bit
[19:39] <BluesKaj> morsnowski_, it has to be saved in the network interfaces file
[19:39] <dfgfh> but since i loaded defaults i hope bios is not to blame
[19:39] <zykotick9> jazzkovsky: for links2 specifically use SHIFT + highlight text, then middle mouse click to paste.  for other terminal apps, just highlight and middle click will work.
[19:39] <morsnowski_> BluesKaj, he has working settings
[19:39] <phunyguy> dfgfh, you will get flagged for spamming by the bots if you keep using the enter key as punctuation.
[19:40] <BluesKaj> he has no network manager
[19:40] <dfgfh> also i can connect to dsl on windows on the same machine
[19:40] <dfgfh> ok
[19:40] <morsnowski_> BluesKaj, scroll up and look for his second last pastebin
[19:40] <dfgfh> it sucks badly, i tell you lot
[19:40] <ffisch> agoodm: ok, heres what i get: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1149385/
[19:40] <ffisch> morsnowski_: ^^
[19:41] <morsnowski_> what the output
[19:41] <agoodm> ffisch, if you can pastebin the output from ubuntu then you have internet?
[19:41] <agoodm> or you typed it out?
[19:41] <ffisch> when network manager was installed, it just kept trying to connect but never did
[19:41] <dfgfh> is there some kind of information i should supply
[19:41] <morsnowski_> ffisch, what is the output of the ping
[19:41] <ffisch> agoodm: i am saving the outputs to a file on the windows partition
[19:42] <ffisch> morsnowski_: its in the pastebin
[19:42] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, buy a wireless card might be less of a headache
[19:42] <ffisch> agoodm: and then i copy/paste the outputs
[19:42] <agoodm> ffisch, gotcha, so its not managing to send or receive data from the nic by the seems of it, did you try setting the ip statically?
[19:42] <tsousa> whatr is the name of the ubuntu dev?
[19:42] <tsousa> irc channel
[19:42] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: i know, but i dont know if i can
[19:42] <morsnowski_> ffisch, ok so that settles it, your interfaces file is faulty
[19:42] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, why?
[19:43] <morsnowski_> do you have an ipconfig from your windows maschine
[19:43] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: my dad controls the money. i am 16 :P
[19:43] <ffisch> morsnowski_: yes
[19:43] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, lol
[19:43] <morsnowski_> can you paste it?
[19:43] <BluesKaj> ffisch, look here , http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[19:44] <ffisch> BluesKaj: yeah, so what? internet doesnt work even on the livecd's
[19:44] <agoodm> what did dhclient return when you tried that?
[19:44] <ffisch> so the interface file is not faulty
[19:44] <morsnowski_> ffisch, can you paste it?
[19:45] <ffisch> agoodm: it just loops forever
[19:45] <ffisch> morsnowski_: sure
[19:45] <BluesKaj> ok ffisch ..forget it then ...good luck with all those commands that don't work for you
[19:45] <agoodm> may be between a rock and a hard place, gut feeling is the driver for your nic is broken :(
[19:45] <bartmon> hello! Anyone knows what vt_handoff is and how I can configure it not to sleep my monitor during startup?
[19:46] <ffisch> morsnowski_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1149336/
[19:46] <ffisch> BluesKaj: yeah...
[19:46] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, if you get a wireless card with rtl8187 chipset i'll assure you it will work in any ubuntu and less than $10
[19:46] <ffisch> maybe i'll just stick with windows
[19:46] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: can i get one at best buy?
[19:46] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, most likely!
[19:46] <jazzkovsky> zykotick9: many thanks :)
[19:46] <ffisch> ok
[19:47] <ffisch> can i get a NIC card?
[19:47] <zykotick9> jazzkovsky: glad to help
[19:47]  * BluesKaj shrugs
[19:47] <ffisch> like, an internal one?
[19:47] <ffisch> otherwise, i'll just get a wireless card.
[19:47] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, be dearer though
[19:48] <Plumblum> Could not connect to se.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx). - connect (111: Connection refused) [IP: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[19:48] <Plumblum> is that having problems
[19:48] <agoodm> ffisch, your mileage with the add in nic cards may vary... wireless cards are more likely to be supported in my experience
[19:48] <Plumblum> or am i blocked ?
[19:48] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: you mean more expensive? or harder to find?
[19:48] <Plumblum> is that site *
[19:48] <morsnowski_> ffisch, one more try, can modify your /etc/network/interfaces to
[19:48] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, both!
[19:48] <morsnowski_> auto eth0
[19:48] <morsnowski_> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[19:49] <ffisch> morsnowski_: ok...
[19:49] <morsnowski_> and then do a ifconfig and paste the output?
[19:49] <ffisch> ok
[19:49] <Samuraialba> Good bacon to all and to all som good bacon!
[19:49] <gr33n7007h> ffisch, you got patients of a saint! good luck
[19:49] <ffisch> gr33n7007h: thanks :-\
[19:50] <guntbert> Plumblum: I cannot connect either, use a different one :)
[19:50] <ffisch> rebooting, again...
[19:50] <Areckx> Where can I find a settings file for my desktop settings?
[19:50] <Plumblum> guntbert, ty :) im connected to the interwez because everything else works :P
[19:51] <binarynomad> PROBLEM with NetworkManager: Working with Desktop install (11.10), machine will not be moving from office, decided to set eth0 as static, and eth1 as promiscuous (to sniff network switch).  But when ETH1 comes up, NetworkManager (a) runs DHClient on the interface and overwrites the /etc/resolve.conf file.  Is it possible to stop this?  (example interfaces file: http://pastebin.com/fRCT0cA1 )
[19:51] <Areckx> Better question: I am going to do a clean install, but what folder should I back up so that I don't have to set everything up again
[19:51] <Plumblum> guntbert, and would you mind telling me how to use a different one :P
[19:51] <BluesKaj> he stll needs to configure the settings in /etc/network/interfaces and save them , no matter how mqany times you guys give commands to to do this and that ...he has no other way of managing his internet connection unless he install network manager
[19:51] <Areckx> I backed up my xchat folder
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> Areckx  /home and /etc/
[19:52] <sajjad_> hey how can i stop a scheduled shutdown
[19:52] <Areckx> MonkeyDust::  thank you!
[19:52] <guntbert> Plumblum: are you on standard ubuntu?
[19:52] <Plumblum> ubuntu server 12.04
[19:53] <sajjad_> hey how can i stop a scheduled shutdown
[19:53] <Plumblum> as far as i can tell everything is fetched from se.archive.ubuntu ^^
[19:53] <W4sp> Areckx: You probably want to save /etc and /home. Consider using tar as it grabs everything.
[19:54] <agoodm> W4sp, be aware, I got screwed recently as by default tar doesnt grab hidden files
[19:54] <magicalChicken> sajjad_: shutdown -c
[19:55] <sajjad_> thanks
[19:55] <magicalChicken> sajjad_: welcome
[19:55] <guntbert> Plumblum: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, replace every ocurrence of se.archive.ubuntu.com with the name of another mirror
[19:55] <SubjectOne> what is the command for changing the keyboard layout under console (on ubuntu 12.04 LT ? )
[19:56] <Plumblum> guntbert, im staring at that file exactley :) im just wondering what i should change it to ? is there a list or something somewhere
[19:56] <W4sp> agoodm: Thanks for the info. Do you know how that could happen? My advice to use tar (instead of cp, that is) is to grab hidden files and preserve for chown/chmod, to be honest.
[19:56] <guntbert> Plumblum: for a list of mirrors see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[19:56]  * Krimpenrik +
[19:57] <agoodm> W4sp, i think there is a cli switch to tell tar to get hidden too 1 sec
[19:59] <W4sp> agoodm: That's for pointing it out. I use  tar zcvf home.tar.gz /home and so on. That gives me everything.
[19:59] <BluesKaj> !unp
[19:59] <W4sp> agoodm: Actually, that should be made public and is probably a bug.
[19:59] <aristidesfl> hi
[20:00] <aristidesfl> how to know which repository is server a certain package?
[20:00] <agoodm> W4sp, i might be mistaken its just I know when i backed up my laptop hidden got missed, cant remember now youve called me on it if i used tar now :( sorry
[20:00] <ironhalik> Hello
[20:00] <agoodm> W4sp, let me do a scientific test
[20:01] <guntbert> aristidesfl: ironhalik: Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:01] <W4sp> agoodm: Thanks a log. Here an idea what could have happen. Instead of  tar zcvf home.tar.gz /home it was  tar zcvf home.tar.gz /home/<user>/*  ?
[20:01] <MichelFP> alright something is wrong
[20:01] <ironhalik> It's a hardware/linux question but here goes - If I forgot to add 'discard' to my fstab on my SSD (system drive), will the OS recover the performance after adding the flag or do I need to /dev/zero the drive or something?
[20:01] <ffisch> agoodm: I forget who told me to edit that file, but could you let them know it didn't work?
[20:01] <MichelFP> when installing ubuntu
[20:01] <MichelFP> i can't find the "install along windows 7" button
[20:01] <MichelFP> it says i have multiple systens
[20:01] <aristidesfl> guntbert how to know which repository is serving a certain package?
[20:01] <MichelFP> even though i only have windows 7
[20:01] <MichelFP> and
[20:02] <MichelFP> when i try to do a manual instalation
[20:02] <morsnowski_> ffisch, what was the output of ifconfig after the change ?
[20:02] <MichelFP> the only devices it finds is /dev/mapper
[20:02] <MichelFP> arent i supposed to use /dev/sda
[20:02] <ffisch> morsnowski_: oh, i didnt check
[20:02] <agoodm> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1149419/ sorry im wrong, I must have used cp when backing up my home
[20:02] <agoodm> crossed wires in my brain!
[20:02] <guntbert> aristidesfl: type /msg ubottu info packagename
[20:02] <MichelFP> someone help me.
[20:03] <doug_f> ActionParsnip, Thanks very much.
[20:03] <aristidesfl> msg ubottu info filebot
[20:03] <aristidesfl> guntbert Package filebot does not exist in precise
[20:03] <guntbert> aristidesfl: begin the line with /
[20:03] <aristidesfl> but I have it installed
[20:04] <agoodm> ffisch, what did ifconfig say after you edited that file?
[20:04] <W4sp> agoodm: Thanks a ton anyway. I'm glad it turned out that way.
[20:04] <guntbert> aristidesfl: then you probably installed it from a ppa
[20:04] <ffisch> agoodm: like i said, i didnt check
[20:04]  * MichelFP pokes guntbert
[20:04] <aristidesfl> guntbert http://hastebin.com/woyujunitu.avrasm
[20:05] <guntbert> MichelFP: please don't
[20:05] <agoodm> ffisch, check :) how can we help if we dont check if your pc got an IP?!
[20:05] <aristidesfl> guntbert it shows up when I search with aptitude
[20:05] <aristidesfl> $ aptitude search filebot
[20:05] <aristidesfl> i   filebot                                                                                - The ultimate tv renamer / subtitle downloader / sfv validator
[20:06] <Areckx> how do I set permissions to /etc in terminal so I can copy it?
[20:06] <agoodm> Areckx, prefix command with sudo
[20:06] <aker> Hello, I'd like to start using Ubuntu 64 bits (used 32 bits before), I'd like to know if there are compatibility issues.
[20:06] <Areckx> oh so I do sudo copy /etc
[20:07] <agoodm> aker, all working fine here on x64
[20:07] <agoodm> Areckx, yes
[20:07] <Areckx> agoodm::  thanks, the destination folder after the first?
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> aker: no issues here either
[20:07] <agoodm> Areckx, yes syntax is: sudo cp /from/here /to/here
[20:08] <fabbeerrr> hi
[20:08] <aker> oh, thank you
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> !cli
[20:08] <fabbeerrr> i 've a problem with playonlinux
[20:08] <BluesKaj> ffisch, fYI , you need a /etc/network/interfaces file to substitute the settings that would otherwise be saved in network manager , no matter how many tries you do with various command to coionnec the settings won't be saved to the next time you bootup .
[20:08] <guntbert> aristidesfl: obviously aptitude finds it because you installed it, here I get nothing, so it doesn't exist in any repos
[20:09] <aristidesfl> guntbert thanks
[20:09] <guntbert> aristidesfl: You're welcome
[20:09] <fabbeerrr> when i install  mozilla browser, how can i install on it silverlight?
[20:09] <aristidesfl> guntbert if I install a package with a new version manually, will it replace the old one?
[20:10] <agoodm> fabbeerrr, silverlight equivalent in linux is mono afaik
[20:10] <ghabit> Hello. I have two lines @ /etc/rc.local . First is 'sleep 60 && service minidlna force-reload' second is 'exit 0' .  But after boot minidlna is not working. But I can start it myself with 'sudo service minidlna force-reload'. Advise me please. Looks like rc.local does not working.
[20:10] <yeats> !moonlight | fabbeerrr
[20:10] <guntbert> aristidesfl: I'd expect that, yes (if the maintainer didn't do something silly, that is)
[20:11] <Areckx> agoodm::
[20:11] <Areckx> agoodm::  sudo: copy: command not found
[20:11] <agoodm> Areckx, cp
[20:11] <Dr_Willis> ghabit: make it 3 lines. no nwed for sleep to be on same line..
[20:11] <Areckx> ahh ok
[20:11] <agoodm> Areckx, not copy
[20:12] <fabbeerrr> yes i understand, but i want to know how install a new program in the exististing playonlinux program
[20:12] <fabbeerrr> understand?
[20:12] <Areckx> agoodm::  cp: omitting directory `/etc'
[20:12] <agoodm> fabbeerrr, no moonlight doesnt run in playonlinux/wine
[20:12] <ffisch> agoodm: ok, here is my ifconfig:http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1149443/
[20:12] <agoodm> Areckx, cp -r
[20:13] <agoodm> -r means 'go into sub directories'
[20:13] <Calahan> Any suggesions on shell backup solution? I would liek ubuntu to once per day check certain folder over lan and back up all new files there is. Is this even possible?
[20:13] <fabbeerrr> i don't want moonlight , but silverlight in mozilla.exe already installed with playonlinux
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> Calahan: rsync and cron
[20:14] <ffisch> agoodm: poke
[20:14] <ffisch> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1149443/
[20:14] <agoodm> ffisch, in my honest opinion if networking doesnt work on the live cd either then the driver for your nic isnt working :( not much can be done
[20:14] <ffisch> ok
[20:14] <Areckx> agoodm::  tanks! that worked
[20:14] <ffisch> i will stick with windows then, probably
[20:14] <agoodm> Areckx, my pleasure
[20:15] <agoodm> ffisch, probably wise
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> fabbeerrr:  you are running the windows verxion of firefox in wine?
[20:15] <ffisch> because the nic is not broken
[20:15] <fabbeerrr> yes
[20:15] <gavin_> my ubuntu upgrade failed, and so I'm trying to boot into recovery mode to dpkg --configure -a. I get to the recovery mode menu, but once there it seems to just hang (arrow keys don't work, can't select "dpkg" option)
[20:15] <agoodm> ffisch, no the hardware is probably fine but the driver for it doesnt seem to be working right :(
[20:15] <fabbeerrr> i've already installed mozilla on playonlinux
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> ffisch: try the 12.10 alpha see if the nuc works there. if not file a bug report
[20:16] <agoodm> fabbeerrr, back track, you dont need to use playonlinux to get silverlight to work, just install moonlight from software center or synaptic
[20:16] <fabbeerrr> rai.tv doesn't work with moonlight
[20:16] <agoodm> ffisch, Dr_Willis makes sense, its possible the problem is fixed in a newer release
[20:17] <agoodm> fabbeerrr, sounds like a drm issue, probably wont work in wine/playonlinux either
[20:17] <morsnowski_> ffisch, can you follow this http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-1004.html
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> silverlight drm wont work in wine i recall
[20:17] <gavin_> does "recovery mode menu hangs" sound familiar to anyone? any ideas for what I could try to unstuck it?
[20:17] <morsnowski_> i want ip6 disabled, that would make it easier
[20:19] <fabbeerrr> agoodm listen, i want only know how playonlinux works, so how can i install silverligght.exe in mozilla .exe already installed with playonlinux?
[20:19] <fabbeerrr> please help me
[20:19] <agoodm> fabbeerrr, not familiar with playonlinux, only with wine... to try it in wine install the browser with wine browserinstaller.exe
[20:19] <agoodm> then install the silverlight int he same manner
[20:20] <fabbeerrr> when i install with wine, the file where is created?
[20:20] <fabbeerrr> where is located after installation?
[20:20] <agoodm> run ls .wine in your home folder
[20:21] <fabbeerrr> thanks
[20:21] <agoodm> probably /home/username/.wine/drive_c/Program Files(x86)/
[20:22] <ffisch> Dr_Willis: hmmm... i may or may not do that. I don't want to download any more stuff
[20:22] <ffisch> it doesnt work in 12.04
[20:23] <ffisch> morsnowski_: why get rid of ipv6? is there evidence that that is the problem or are we making stabsin th dark?
[20:23] <TJ-> ffisch: I've seen your trials on this. I haven't seen, however, whether you've managed to pastebin the /var/log/kern.log or /var/log/dmesg from that system ... likely any clues would be on one of those files
[20:23] <morsnowski_> no it's easier to trouble shoot under ip4
[20:24] <ffisch> TJ-: Oh?
[20:24] <ffisch> should i pastebin them for yo9u?
[20:24] <ffisch> I can
[20:24] <ffisch> ok
[20:24] <guntbert> bartmon: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/32999/what-is-vt-handoff-7-parameter-in-grub-cfg
[20:24] <TJ-> ffisch: /var/lof/dmesg is the kernel's boot log... it reveal the devices discovered and any problems that may have occurred
[20:24] <TJ-> ffisch: typo, that should be "/var/log/dmesg"
[20:24] <ffisch> i will disable ipv6 and will pastebin those.
[20:25] <morsnowski_> ffisch, also get us a "tail -f /var/log/syslog" when you plug the network cable in
[20:25] <morsnowski_> yes and pleas paste bin an ifconfig after the changes
[20:25] <Studious> you can use hurricane electric for an ipv6-to-ipv4 tunnel
[20:25] <ffisch> ok
[20:25] <TJ-> Poor ffisch  - all those pastebins :)
[20:26] <morsnowski_> and don't fort to restart the network after the changes and before the if config
[20:26] <ffisch> you know, this is getting to complicated.
[20:26] <morsnowski_> TJ-, ffisch yes it's rotten but what can you do
[20:26] <ffisch> i will just stick with winxp
[20:26] <ffisch> and maybe do these some other time.
[20:27] <TJ-> ffisch: dmesg and kern.log should always be the first places to check when there's a hardware related issue
[20:27] <morsnowski_> ff how old is your router ?
[20:27] <doctorpepper> hi guys !!!
[20:27] <doctorpepper> can anyone please help me , i am running 12.04 and i have some issue with the screen going blank eventhought i diseabled the screensaver
[20:29] <ffisch> bye
[20:29] <ffisch> thanks everyone
[20:29] <morsnowski_> ffisch, sorry
[20:29] <ffisch> thats ok
[20:30] <ffisch> i'm getting tired of all this troubleshooting and it seems we are stabbing in the dark right now
[20:30] <ffisch> i dont think we are getting any closer to fixing it
[20:31] <TJ-> ffisch: That's what the logs are for. No point chasing ghosts - you have to have indications of the source of the problem
[20:31] <ffisch> also, google search results for "optiplex 745 linux" seem to imply that it is one of the worst pc's to put linux on...
[20:31] <ffisch> anyway, i will pastebin the logs
[20:32] <iharp> All my windows are messed up. The top and bottom borders of every window I open up are offset to the right by about an inch.
[20:32] <TJ-> ffisch: https://friendly.ubuntu.com/11.10/Dell%20Inc./OptiPlex%20745/I:BoBx2p:H8h:BEG:ri:BEip:E3K:BYQ:NK:BJ8/
[20:32] <iharp> It doesn't matter if its file manager or firefox
[20:32] <agoodm> iharp, unity?
[20:32] <ffisch> TJ-: saw that
[20:32] <ffisch> anyway, ill do it later
[20:33] <ffisch> see ya
[20:33] <ffisch> bye
[20:33] <TJ-> ffisch: does yours have the same ethernet card? I'm trying to do some background research without having you repeat the details!
[20:33] <ffisch> TJ-: yes, it has the same card
[20:33] <iharp> agoodm: I'm actually using Kubuntu, but i hardly ever get any support on that channel, so I came here. Usually the answers are just as helppful.
[20:34] <ffisch> it has the Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit Controller
[20:34] <iharp> helpful*
[20:34] <davidpar> hello!
[20:34] <ffisch> the current generation, not the old one
[20:34] <ffisch> TJ-: ^^\
[20:34] <agoodm> iharp, if it was unity3d, ie a window manager that uses 3d effects I would suggest running compiz --replace to see if it fixes the issue.  If your graphical system breaks down after running that reboot to fix it
[20:35] <ffisch> gtg bye
[20:35] <davidpar> I'm installing Ubuntu via Wubi and I have the error "Extraction failed with code: 2". Can someone help me?
[20:36] <TJ-> ffisch: I think this might be pertinent: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12007196&postcount=42
[20:36] <TJ-> oh... too late
[20:36] <auronandace> TJ-: valiant attempt
[20:37] <guntbert> davidpar: I have no experience with wubi - but did you md5sum check the file you downloaded?
[20:37] <TJ-> auronandace: well I was wondering if it was either 1) crossover cable or 2) router-cloned-MAC
[20:37] <extrasolar>      guntbert show us the log
[20:37] <extrasolar> the error should detail the location of a log, upload it to pastebin
[20:38] <guntbert> extrasolar: I beg your pardon?
[20:38] <davidpar> guntbert: Wubi show me this error with this comment in Catalan: "Per a obtenir-ne més informació, vegeu-ne el fitxer de registre: c:\...\temp\wubi-12.04-rev266.log" (for more information, see c:\...\temp\wubi-12.04-rev266.log)
[20:39] <extrasolar> log
[20:39] <guntbert> davidpar: as I said, I have no experience with wubi, maybe extrasolar was talking to you about showing him the log
[20:39] <jase_> does ubuntu create logs of a shutdown or reboot
[20:39] <davidpar> someone has experience with Wubi?
[20:39] <agoodm> jase_, /var/log/syslog
[20:39] <guntbert> jase_: yes, in /var/log/syslog
[20:40] <extrasolar> guntbert ok usually when an error appears during installation a location for a log also appears
[20:40] <extrasolar> but if it hasn't then...meh?
[20:40] <agoodm> davidpar, find those log files on your hdd, open them and copy/paste them into www.pastebin.com give us the link
[20:41] <guntbert> extrasolar: I'm not the one with problems, please talk to davidpar
[20:41] <extrasolar> oh
[20:41] <extrasolar> haha
[20:41] <jase_> so ubutu does create logs as ive read that it doesnt store shutdown messages
[20:41] <extrasolar> sorry I am doing multiple things at once
[20:42] <agoodm> jase_, let me look at a machine that recently rebooted
[20:42] <guntbert> jase_: what is your problem?
[20:43] <cr1st0> Hello ubuntu will keep the unity?
[20:43] <cr1st0> Because nobody likes it
[20:43] <jase_> ubuntu is freezing on shutdown not every time so im unsure where to start
[20:43] <guntbert> cr1st0: that is not a support question, is it?
[20:44] <auronandace> cr1st0: your statement is incorrect
[20:44] <zykotick9> cr1st0: at least one person does - Mark, and that's ALL that matters
[20:44] <Squarepy> hi I am on vista with a raid 0, can I just boot from the 32-bit iso  and install ubuntu on a new partition?
[20:45] <smplman> cr1st0: if you don't like it, change it
[20:45] <Bryan-VM_> Hello guys
[20:45] <Bryan-VM_> Is there anyway to see what exactly is causing my Ubuntu VM to be so sluggish?
[20:46] <Bryan-VM_> 2gb of RAM, a decent dual core proc, I'm out of options
[20:46] <extrasolar> htop?
[20:46] <Bryan-VM_> htop-?
[20:46] <Bryan-VM_> Im completely new to Ubuntu, so I'm unfamiliar with most things
[20:46] <extrasolar> a interactive system-monitor process-viewer
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> !notunity| cr1st0
[20:46] <Bryan-VM_> extrasolar, Open through terminal or the ubuntu search thing?
[20:48] <jase_> what command can i use to search syslog for a text string
[20:48] <auronandace> Bryan-VM: type it in a terminal
[20:48] <extrasolar> terminal
[20:48] <auronandace> jase_: grep
[20:49] <Bryan-VM> hmm
[20:49] <zykotick9> jase_: "grep foo /path/to/file"
[20:49] <Bryan-VM> Does Firefox have a memory leak?
[20:49] <Bryan-VM> Because just sitting there with no open tabs got me 86% of my CPU taken up.
[20:50] <agoodm> interestingly my dns issue from earlier occurrs with 'irc.freenode.net' as well
[20:50] <agoodm> dig +dnssec irc.freenode.net works
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> Bryan-VM  no issue here, with FF open
[20:50] <agoodm> nslookup irc.freenode.net does not
[20:51] <Bryan-VM> hmm
[20:51] <jase_> do i have to use quotes for a sting of text
[20:51] <extrasolar> 86%.....ouch
[20:51] <TJ-> agoodm: I think you have an issue unique to your network
[20:51] <Bryan-VM> I dont know what else to do/try
[20:51] <extrasolar> have you tried chrome?
[20:51] <Bryan-VM> No, im using Midori
[20:51] <TJ-> Bryan-VM: Is that Firefox running inside a virtual machine guest? or on the bare metal host?
[20:51] <Bryan-VM> TJ, its all running in Ubuntu inside the VM.
[20:51] <jase_> /var/lo
[20:52] <agoodm> TJ-, it seems to be related to a combination of lots of hosts and the host using dnssec
[20:52] <TJ-> Bryan-VM: what hypervisor are you using? what is the host OS?
[20:52] <Bryan-VM> Im using VMware Player on Windows 7 Ultimate
[20:52] <extrasolar> specs?
[20:52] <Bryan-VM> For the guest or the host?
[20:53] <zykotick9> jase_: i'd just search for lo myself...
[20:53] <extrasolar> both
[20:53] <Bryan-VM> Host has 4gb of RAM, quad core proc. Guest has 2gb of RAM, dual core proc.
[20:53] <extrasolar> hmmm
[20:53] <TJ-> Bryan-VM: which release of Ubuntu, and 32 or 64 bit guest?
[20:53] <Bryan-VM> 32bit guest, and its the 12.04 LTS
[20:54] <extrasolar> I guess you could try lubuntu with a lightweight browswer
[20:54] <Bryan-VM> I just dont understand how it is this sluggish
[20:54] <agoodm> TJ-, its odd though because no other machines suffer this issue on my network, let me pull up a windows 7 box
[20:55] <TJ-> Bryan-VM: I'm seeing some indications that this is some kind of vmware issue, let me dig deeper
[20:55] <lesshaste> how do I list all -dbg packages which are currently installed?
[20:55] <xuriouss> Bryan-VM, how many tabs do you have open?
[20:55] <Bryan-VM> TJ, alright, thanks
[20:55] <thufir_> is there some trick to connecting to apache james<EMAIL_ADDRESS>I started the server, but my connection is refused.
[20:55] <Bryan-VM> xuriouss, In FF, none. I just had it running with no tabs
[20:55] <TJ-> lesshaste: dpkg-query -l '*dbg*' | grep '^ii'
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> lesshaste  dpkg -L|grep ii|grep -dbg
[20:55] <extrasolar> I am running ubuntu 12.04 in Virtual Box everything seems alright
[20:56] <lesshaste> MonkeyDust: that isn't correct syntax
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> lesshaste  guess TJ- was more accurate, try that one
[20:56] <lesshaste> TJ-: thanks
[20:57] <xuriouss> I don't think that's a VM/hardware issue. If it's taking up 86%, it seems like either a bug with ubuntu/FF. How does it fare with another browser or when you have nothing open?  Is CPU usage still really low?
[20:57] <Bryan-VM> Without FF, everything is around 25%
[20:57] <Bryan-VM> Still really sluggish though
 did you have a look if syslog is storing shutdown messages
[20:57] <extrasolar> then how sluggish would you say it is?
[20:57] <lesshaste>  how about just listing the large installed packages?
[20:57] <lesshaste> I have 0% space left
[20:57] <extrasolar> is it still unbearable
[20:57] <agoodm> jase_, sorry got side tracked let me look
[20:57] <Bryan-VM> Takes about 15 seconds to switch from IRC to another program, about 30 seconds for that program to draw.
[20:58] <TJ-> Bryan-VM: I'm reading that on some bare-metal hosts where the CPU's hardware virtualisation hasn't been enabled (usually via BIOS setting) this can occur since the virtualisation has to be done completely in software
[20:58] <jase_> thanks
[20:58] <Bryan-VM> Does that make sense extrasolar
[20:58] <zykotick9> lesshaste: how much is your apt archive taking?  "du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives/"
[20:58] <TJ-> Bryan-VM: What CPU does the host have? is VT enabled?
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> lesshaste  this is the (working) line I use   find / -size +1G -exec ls -l {} \;
[20:58] <Bryan-VM> Im not sure on the exact m odel I just know its an intel quad core
[20:58] <agoodm> jase_, depends what you mean by shutdown messages... I rebooted a machine just now and there are messages from programs closing down etc
[20:58] <Bryan-VM> and VT is enabled
[20:58] <lesshaste> zykes-: 625M.. is there a clean way to purge it?
[20:58] <trism> lesshaste: dpkg-query -Wf '${Installed-Size} ${Package}\n' | sort -n; sometimes useful too
[20:59] <zykotick9> lesshaste: tab fail ;)  "sudo apt-get clean" should work
[20:59] <lesshaste> trism: thanks
[20:59] <SwashBuckla> I have this problem, what should I do? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ecryptfs/+bug/911507/comments/5
[21:00] <jase_> Is it loging what gets output to the screen
[21:00] <agoodm> jase_, prefix messages for me with agoodm to grab my attention
[21:01] <agoodm> jase_, i imagine itll be logging everything till very late in the shutdown process when the file system becomes read only
[21:01] <jase_> sorry will do
[21:01] <TJ-> Bryan-VM: to be clear, is the Ubuntu guest itself reporting that the firefox process is using 86% ?
[21:02] <Bryan-VM> It was, yes
[21:02] <Bryan-VM> htop was what said it
[21:02] <SwashBuckla> I have this problem, what should I do? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ecryptfs/+bug/911507/comments/5
 i want to look for acpid exiting but when i shearch with grep its giving me all acpid entries
[21:02] <extrasolar> Are you using unity 3D?
[21:03] <lesshaste> trism: that was a very helpful line, thanks
[21:03] <agoodm> jase_, what is broken?
[21:03] <lesshaste> zykotick9: is there a clean way to purge /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
[21:03] <lesshaste> zykotick9: or just rm?
[21:03] <Bryan-VM> extrasolar, no, Unity-2d
[21:03] <zykotick9> lesshaste: "sudo apt-get clean" should work
[21:03] <TJ-> SwashBuckla: the fix has been committed; that means it will be in the precise-proposed archive right now. Ensure you have that repository enabled in Software Sources
 i have shutdown issues
[21:03] <zykotick9> lesshaste: rm would obviously work as well
[21:04] <agoodm> jase_, what exactly is broken?
[21:04] <extrasolar> Tj- could we suggest to Bryan-WM to use an alternative ubuntu distro such as lubuntu? What else is there to do....
[21:04] <lesshaste> zykotick9: thanks
[21:04] <lesshaste> panic now over :)
 im getting freezes when i try to shutdown or reboot sometimes it does work but mainly not
[21:06] <xuriouss> extrasolar: use a different browser, use an older version..
[21:06] <TJ-> extrasolar: Bryan-VM:  My feeling is it's an interaction between host and guest. I'd like to prove that wrong. Does the guest use lots of CPU without the firefox process running?
[21:06] <agoodm> jase_, ah, really have no clue personally how to debug this, only thing i can suggest as a stab in the dark is start up with noapic or noacpi kernel parameters
 The last message that i get on a failed shutdown is acpid exiting
[21:06] <agoodm> see if it helps
[21:07] <Bryan-VM> TJ, No. Unless I'm confused what you mean. Do you mean the CPU inside the VM, or the cpu use the entire VM is taking up on the Host?
[21:08] <SwashBuckla> TJ-: I don't understand how to have the repository enabled in Software Sources. Can you help?
 I've read about adding acpid --force to grub but am unsure as to why that would help
[21:09] <agoodm> jase_, turning off apic and or acpi can help fix issues where the acpi or apic implementation is broken or buggy for your hardware
[21:10] <TJ-> Bryan-VM: I think I'm confused too :D   ... From what you said earlier about CPU usage 86% I understood that to mean than the ubuntu guest was showing the firefox process using 86% in the guest. Is that correct?
[21:10] <stratoka> hi all
[21:10] <Bryan-VM> TJ, Yes. Inside of Ubuntu, Firefox was reported as using 86% of CPU
[21:10] <TJ-> SwashBuckla: http://ubuntuguide.net/enable-proposed-pre-released-updates-ubuntu-12-04
 Would adding that to grub do that
[21:11] <TJ-> Bryan-VM: OK ... if you stop the firefox process CPU usage returns to idle?
[21:11] <agoodm> jase_, dont add it in grub in case your system doesnt boot afterwards
[21:11] <Bryan-VM> Yes
[21:11] <TJ-> Bryan-VM: OK ... is it a vanilla firefox installation ... no plugins/extensions added?
[21:11] <Bryan-VM> yes, Vanilla
[21:12] <agoodm> jase_, off top of my head procedure is keep tapping escape as your machine boots, in the grub menu press e then use the arrow keys to get to the end of the kernel line type noacpi then press enter or b
[21:12] <agoodm> something along those lines
[21:12] <agoodm> if noacpi doesnt fix try noapic
 Is adding acpid=force to grub not the same as turning off acpid
[21:12] <TJ-> Bryan-VM: OK... and this occurs with the only tab open being the overview/most visited sites thumbnails?
[21:12] <david___> Hi, I'm trying to get my wireless card to work on Ubuntu Server 12.04. It appears in ifconfig and iwconfig (so I believe the necessary drivers are installed), but I can't get it to connect to my WPA2 network using wpa_supplicant - any help appreciated! :)
[21:12] <agoodm> jase_, try noapic and noacpi seperately first
[21:13] <Bryan-VM> This occured during that, yes. Whenever I opened a tab to actually use it, it jumped higher
[21:13] <agoodm> im not sure what the acpid=force thing will do so im not suggesting it
[21:13] <TJ-> jase_: Do you by any chance have an uninterruptable power supply (UPS) on that PC?
[21:13] <jase_> TJ  No
[21:14] <TJ-> agoodm: noapic will disable the advance programmable interrupt controller, not the same as ACPI :p
[21:14] <agoodm> TJ-, I know but ive found issues sometimes seem to be interlinked
 I'll try that back later thanks
[21:16] <TJ-> agoodm: It can when the ACPI tables in the ROM are incorrect :)
[21:16] <amr_> ssh,vpn,vnc,telnet which of them is most easy to use and GUI?
[21:16] <W00terf4ll> enter
[21:17] <fpoesc> whois A_J_
[21:17] <_Marcus> Is it possible to install Ubuntu on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10 that is currently running Android?
[21:17] <amr_> even if it is possible, as far as I know it didn't support phone calls !!!
[21:18] <W00terf4ll> i think you can
[21:18] <W00terf4ll> like how they install it on a galaxy S2
[21:18] <xomp> hello, having a frustrating issue with crontab. Getting an error of "bad command" and crontab cannot install the file? Can anyone help?
[21:18] <_Marcus> amr_: Where you talking to me? Because it can't even make calls now.
[21:18] <Bryan-VM> TJ, Is there anything else I can try?
[21:19] <xomp> I'm trying to have crontab execute a php file every 5 minutes
[21:19] <TJ-> Bryan-VM: I'm still searching for indicators... whatever causes it, it's rare
[21:19] <amr_> -marcus, what do you mean !! android support calls, or you don't have any system at all
[21:19] <extrasolar> try another distro in another virtual machine
[21:19] <extrasolar> and see what happens
[21:19] <auronandace> amr_: a tablet isn't a phone
[21:20] <amr_> ahaa, sorry I thought you talk about phone not tabled
[21:20] <extrasolar> he left in embarrassment
[21:20] <W00terf4ll> hehehe
[21:21] <W00terf4ll> quit
[21:23] <david___> When I attempt to run wpa_supplicant, I get two lines saying "ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument"
[21:25] <bitbarron> I am trying to run usb-creator-gtk (my goal is to create a persistent USB thumb drive Ubuntu installation).  usb-creator-gtk is not recognizing my USB drive. I see a message which states the removable dis needs to be set up as a startup disk.  How do I set up the usb thumbdrive as a startup disk?
[21:25] <extrasolar> david__ we're gonna need more than that
[21:25] <extrasolar> tell us what you have already done
[21:26] <extrasolar> perhaps upload it to pastebin
[21:26] <extrasolar> bitbarron what OS are you using to do this?
[21:26] <bitbarron> extrasolar, Ubuntu
[21:27] <extrasolar> and you don't want to use the ubuntu startup disk creator?
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> bitbarron  what's the outcome of lsb_release -sd ?
[21:28] <bitbarron> Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[21:28] <bitbarron> MonkeyDust, 12.04.1 LTS
[21:28] <OerHeks> Hi i tried Xeoma sec cam software from software centre $0,0 and tried to remove is, tru software centre. i am running 64 bit ubuntu and it messes up my system, and leave processes on startup.
[21:28] <zykotick9> bitbarron: i find a full install onto USB a lot more powerful/versatile then live+persistance
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> bitbarron  12.04.1 will be released on august 23
[21:28] <OerHeks> how do i find out, what is bugging me?
[21:29] <MaRcO_BITTO87> buonasera
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> bitbarron  nvm what i said
[21:29] <MaRcO_BITTO87> \list
[21:29] <bitbarron> MonkeyDust, what's nvm?
[21:29] <bitbarron> MonkeyDust, Nevermind
[21:30] <bitbarron> zykotick9, I would do the full install if that is the way to go.
[21:30] <bitbarron> zykotick9, I have to go for a few minutes.  I will be back.
[21:32] <david___> Here is my output from: sudo wpa_supplicant -D wext -i wlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[21:32] <david___> http://pastebin.com/uVaHBrnN
[21:33] <mango> where does apt-get store packages when doing --download-only?
[21:34] <Pumpkin-> mango: from memory, in the directory you are when you run it
[21:34] <bitbarron> zykotick9, Can you point me the right direction regarding the full install onto USB?
[21:35] <zykotick9> bitbarron: just point the installer to the USB - that's it, same as a regular HD install
[21:36] <mango> @Pumpkin - it's not in the same directory
[21:36] <mango> try  sudo apt-get install --download-only libssl-dev --reinstall
[21:36] <mango> and see what happens
[21:36] <zykotick9> mango: check /var/cache/apt/archives/ perhaps
[21:36] <bitbarron> zykotick9, Wow.  Cool idea.  Is there anything I need to be aware of in advance?  Should I somehow format the USB?  I guess the installer does that for me, heh?
[21:37] <zykotick9> bitbarron: nope, let the install take care of it ;)
[21:37] <con-man> can someone tell me how to disable unity?
[21:37] <mango> ok, I see something there
[21:37] <bitbarron> zykotick9, Cool.  I will do it.  Thanks!
[21:37] <con-man> it's crashing my gnome session
[21:38] <mango> @pumpkin thanks
[21:38] <zykotick9> bitbarron: did you want to use the USB to do installs?  i guess that would be the 1 advantage to using Live
[21:38] <shaladore> anyone can help with a problem upgrading to 12.04?
[21:38] <bitbarron> zykotick9, No, I just want to have a portable OS with all my configurations.
[21:39] <mango> yeah I had a problem with Nvidia
[21:39] <mango> it seems that's solved now
[21:39] <zykotick9> bitbarron: full install then ;)
[21:39] <bitbarron> zykotick9, Sweet.  I am excited. Thanks!
[21:39] <zykotick9> bitbarron: hope it's a fairly large USB
[21:40] <bitbarron> zykotick9, 32GB
[21:40] <bitbarron> zykotick9, Think that should do it?
[21:40] <zykotick9> bitbarron: that's fine for size
[21:40] <zykotick9> bitbarron: room to spare ;)
[21:41] <bitbarron> zykotick9, I dig Ubuntu, but should I think about another release for size issues (Mint, or something else?)
[21:42] <zykotick9> bitbarron: i'm not the person to ask - i don't use ubuntu anymore, and never used mint
[21:43] <bitbarron> zykotick9, OK.  Well, thanks for the info.  One more question.  Once I create the USB, can I boot onto either a PC or a Mac?
[21:43] <zykotick9> bitbarron: PC for sure, Mac i have no idea
[21:43] <WellSaid> good night i'm italian i need help whit a notebook whit wifi card die
[21:46] <Mars___> you guys encounted also a bug in the latest ubuntu kernel (<IP_ADDRESS>)? With ulatency installed it doesn boot anymore
[21:46] <sveinse> What IS going on? I just lost sound in my xfce4, precise. I have in skype though but nothing else (vlc, browser, spotify)
[21:47] <testis> hi anyone can help me with kernel cross-compile?
[21:48] <sveinse> testis, crossed from what to where?
[21:48] <testis> compile for mips
[21:48] <testis> on x86
[21:48] <testis> i follow around 50 tutorials and now am lost
[21:49] <sveinse> using debian kernel or any stock kernel? I'm somewhat unknown to the things ubuntu add to the kernel (package)
[21:49] <testis> i tryed kernels from http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/Getting_the_kernel, also from kernels.org
[21:50] <david___> Here is my output from: sudo wpa_supplicant -D wext -i wlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[21:50] <david___> http://pastebin.com/uVaHBrnN
[21:50] <goddard> WHY DOES CHROMIUM NOT LOAD GOOGLE+ ?
[21:50] <TJ-> testis: which mips are you buidling for?
[21:50] <testis> mips32
[21:52] <zykotick9> goddard: why do some people YELL when asking questions?
[21:52] <testis> it'a actually mipsel BCM97xxx Settop Platform
[21:52] <testis> dm500hd
[21:52] <sveinse> testis: Generally speaking you need to setup ARCH and CROSS_COMPILE (and perhaps TARGET_CFLAGS, I'm not sure)
[21:52] <testis> i did that in makefile
[21:53] <testis> then do i need mipsel compiler? binutils, gcc?
[21:53] <sveinse> testis: for arm it's  ARCH=arm  and CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi-
 When i press e at the grub menu where do i put the noacpi
[21:53] <sveinse> testis: You need the mips* cross compile packages.
[21:53] <testis> i successfully compiled some .c files, and bin's working on mips device
[21:53] <testis> can i use that toolchain?
[21:54] <sveinse> What is the path to gcc there?
[21:54] <TJ-> testis: I cross-built a few months ago for an embedded device... I think I may have written up the howto
[21:54] <agoodm> jase_, on the end of the kernel line
[21:54] <testis> it's somewhere in my /home folder
[21:54] <testis> @TJ where i can find that?
[21:55] <sveinse> testis: You can then setup CROSS_COMPILE=/path/to/my/toolchain/bin/  given that gcc, ld, objcopy, objdump and so on are in that dir
[21:55] <r0m> Is swap at all needed on a desktop machine with 4GB of ram?
 does it need - in front of it
[21:55] <agoodm> jase_, is the - already on the line?
[21:55] <ruif13> hi, anyone help
 I dont think it was
[21:56] <ruif13> i have the bcm4313 and i can't connect using wireless
[21:56] <testis> @sveinse yes, i tryed like in tutorials but showed me million errors
[21:56] <agoodm> ok there is no need to prefix the noapic or noacpi
[21:56] <ruif13> detect all networks
[21:56] <agoodm> just try adding it to the end of the line
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> !bcm > ruif13
[21:56] <ruif13> but my doesn't appears
[21:56] <jase_> Ok will do
[21:56] <TJ-> testis: See the "Building from source" section of my article http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Embedded/Infineon/Danube/ADSL2PCI
[21:56] <sveinse> testis: Can I see a few of that million?
[21:56] <ruif13> thanks monkeydust
[21:57] <testis> @TJ thank you
[21:57] <Tulak1> why my resolf.conf keeps replacing after reboot on my 11.10 server ?
[21:57] <Costeelation> any know why after anyone know that after a fresh installation ... and after upgrading, specify remains in the plymouth and not start: (
[21:57] <testis> @sveinse yes, one is missing some headers like "boundari.h", i will check TJ's tut
[21:58] <sveinse> testis: OK, I'm assuming that you have a sane config and/or that the machine port actually works, so if that is not working, then I understand your troubles
[21:58] <Costeelation> in a new laptop... ubuntu precise
[21:58] <TJ-> testis: I just checked... sorry ... looks like I never wrote up the kernel build instructions, although they would be pretty standard after you've installed the cross-toolchain
[21:59] <testis> i will try
[22:00] <maladore> any one here know about pidgin?
[22:01] <agoodm> maladore, been using it since it was called gaim ...
[22:02] <maladore> :agoodm great.. i have a problem running it on 11.10 and the text disappears trying to do everything but i had to load xchat to just see text
[22:02] <agoodm> so the text in the windows dissapears randomly?
[22:02] <Tulak1> my ubuntu 11.10 server won't generate dns from /etc/network/interfaces to resolf.conf
[22:02] <xomp> hi, can someone please help me with this crontab error? http://pastebin.com/JA6SjfEV
[22:03] <agoodm> Tulak1, if your server has ip set statically it wont, just edit resolv.conf by hand
[22:03] <maladore> no so random.. but yes... i see half lines in it.. and it isn't showing color.. at all.. and also it was acting weird when i put the skype plugin into it.. i have purged and reinstalled but it won't format text properly
[22:04] <agoodm> maladore, odd, never seen this before, try to remove non standard plugins
[22:04] <maladore> i will try that and give it a try.. i will jsut purge everything pidgin and reinstall and see if that will work
[22:05] <agoodm> TJ-, it seems that my issue might simply be normal for places that have a lot of records and my firewall was broken in that I wasnt allowing tcp 53 by mistake
[22:05] <Tulak1> agoodm but when i restart my server, the resolf.conf is rewrited by nameservers i used som time ago
[22:06] <agoodm> thats network manager then erm
[22:06] <TJ-> agoodm: Ahhhh!
[22:06] <david___> Any ideas why I'm getting the wpa_supplicant errors?
[22:06] <xomp> hi, can someone please help me with this crontab error? http://pastebin.com/JA6SjfEV I'm trying to create a cronjob to run a .php page here is what I'm entering in crontab -e http://pastebin.com/rr4bEbcX
[22:06] <znudee> Hey, I got a problem installing ubuntu on my machine, I've got it done on my laptop and I've had it on this setup before, but now I only have Win7. I've tried both burning it to cd, installing via usb and now the last one I'm doing is installing via Win7 application.
[22:07] <agoodm> Tulak1, not sure if its the same on ubuntu but on my centos 6 box that also uses network manager I add dns into this file: /etc/sysconfig/networking/devices/ifcfg-eth0
[22:07] <ruif13> MonkeyDust doesn't work
[22:07] <znudee> It starts and so, on all of the methods, and you come to the install, then when I'm chosing language or so, the install starts, I first can't move the mouse, then after about 10 minutes when I can move it I can't click on any buttons, and the keyboard doesn't work either.
[22:08] <agoodm> TJ-, I noticed that when I did the affected lookups from the gateway device it too as using tcp (firewall allows everything on <IP_ADDRESS>)
[22:08] <agoodm> TJ-, so not dnssec issue but simply the reply is too big for the udp packet I suspect
[22:08] <david___> Should I be using the wext driver with wpa_supplicant?
[22:08] <Tulak1> agoodm thers no sysconfig directory in /etc/
[22:09] <agoodm> Tulak1, /etc/network seems equivalent
[22:10] <shaladore> testing the text
[22:10] <xomp> hi, can someone please help me with this crontab error? http://pastebin.com/JA6SjfEV I'm trying to create a cronjob to run a .php page here is what I'm entering in crontab -e http://pastebin.com/rr4bEbcX
[22:10] <maladore> shows up on xchat but pidgin is missing some lines
[22:10] <znudee> btw, I'm trying with 12.04 LTS
[22:11] <agoodm> maladore, absolutly no clue if im honest :( could be totally unrelated to pidgin, ive had some graphical corruption issues on my ubuntu but related to graphics drivers
[22:12] <maladore> agoodm probably I have a nvidia and that is why i am runniong 11.10 because 12.04 goes to 640 by 480 mode and i can'
[22:12] <maladore> t
[22:12] <maladore> do anything with it
[22:12] <histo> znudee: you can try the alternate installer
[22:12] <histo> znudee: I would do that if the live cd boots okay
[22:12] <histo> maladore: what's wrong with nvidia in 12.04
[22:13] <znudee> alternate installer?
[22:13] <maladore> histo I have an nvidia mx 440 and it runs in 1024 x 768 in 11.10 but runs in 640,480 in 12.04 lts
[22:14] <xomp> hi, can someone please help me with this crontab error? http://pastebin.com/JA6SjfEV I'm trying to create a cronjob to run a .php page here is what I'm entering in crontab -e http://pastebin.com/rr4bEbcX
[22:14] <zykotick9> !alternate | znudee
[22:14] <znudee> Oh thanks a bunch! :)
[22:15] <maladore> then the other issue was the sound went into dummy and nothing i did pulled it out
[22:16] <histo> xomp: I don't think you can just call a php page like that from command line
 My system boots ok when i add noacpi so can i put this in grub now so i dont have to keep doing it every time i boot
[22:17] <agoodm> jase_, is the shut down issue fixed?
[22:17] <david___> Here is my output from: sudo wpa_supplicant -D wext -i wlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf: http://pastebin.com/uVaHBrnN
[22:17] <xomp> histo, I just fixed the issue myself actually, removed the 01 from that crontab entry and it worked :)
[22:17] <histo> xomp: You could try php pathtopage  but i'm not too familiar with running a command like that
[22:17] <agoodm> if so yes put it into the grub config int he same way you edited when turning on
[22:17] <Merculis> Salutations
[22:18] <jase_> Im not sure i will have to test for a while as it doesnt do it every time
[22:18] <zykotick9> jase_: edit /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub"
[22:19] <devin> I'm getting Invalid Format on my monitor on the grub screen. Dual booting Precise and win 7 home
[22:20] <jase_> zykotick9 do i add it to this line   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[22:20] <dylan> So I killed wine, and then my display went all wonkey so I cntl+alt f5'd to a terminal
[22:20] <dylan> when I tried to go back it said "broken pipe"
[22:21] <dylan> how do I diagnose/solve that in the future?
[22:21] <zykotick9> jase_: yes
[22:21] <dylan> just stop and restart x?
[22:21] <dylan> also, what is the command to stop x?
[22:21] <devin> I'm getting Invalid Format on my monitor on the grub screen. Dual booting Precise and win 7 home
[22:22] <L3top> dylan: what desktop?
[22:22] <Merculis> I was lazy and used Wubi to install 12.04.  I'm having this issue where my laptop hangs, regardless of application/process, just like one is accustomed to in Windoze.  The only difference is that my CPU seems to be the thing that is pegged rather than the typical RAM or Disk I/O type of issue in Windoze.  There doesn't seem to be anything blaringly wrong; as it occurs with any app...not just a browser.  I have a Core i7 with 8
[22:22] <L3top> dylan: sudo service lightdm stop    for unity for example
[22:22] <dylan> L3top:Just remembered this is my mint half of the machine, not my Ubuntu.  My bad
[22:23] <devin> L3top: I'm using the standard lightdm/unity desktop
 If turning off acpi works what problems may i get leaving it disabled
[22:23] <L3top> devin: when you boot into what, do you get this?
[22:24] <agoodm> jase_, probably higher power usage and thats about it
[22:24] <devin> L3top: I boot into ubuntu automaticly. Grub 2
[22:25] <L3top> jase_: acpi is the advanced configuration and power interface... so advanced power features will not work... like auto dimming a laptop display after time... suspend and hybernate might have issues... I don't know if that covers polite fan throttling etc.
 Could the problem be related to a certain device not agreeing  with acpi
[22:26] <L3top> devin: do you have an xorg.conf file? Can you boot from grub into text only mode to check some things?
[22:26] <agoodm> jase_, possibly or more like the acpi implementation for your system is buggy or incomplete
[22:26] <L3top> jase_: possibly... nm... what he said.
[22:28] <TJ-> jase_: noacpi isn't really a solution since it disables a lot of core functions the kernel relies upon... if you could get to the bottom of the failure, that would be preferable
 Does that come from the bios
[22:28] <agoodm> jase_, yes
[22:28] <agoodm> jase_, there is stuff in ubuntu that interfaces with it too
 The reason i ask about a particular piece of hardware is i have a imon ir/vfd display in this machine with the issues and have an other machine with similar hardware and that one is fine.
 Apart from the imon display
[22:32] <agoodm> it wont be the imon thing causing it
[22:32] <irreverant> What about software?
[22:32] <irreverant> what's the differences?
[22:33] <jase_> Does this look ok   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash noacpi"
[22:34] <agoodm> jase_, erm
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> may want to turn off splah and see the messagtes for trouble shooting  'noquiet nosplash noacpi'
[22:35] <agoodm> yes that looks fine
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> I think theres eveeb a  'verbose' option to make the system show more error/kernel messages. :)
[22:35] <agoodm> if it doesnt boot after you change it just press e and edit it back to what it was
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> it may help track down the exact issue.
[22:35] <agoodm> then boot and you should be ok
[22:35] <Randomuser894739> Hello, I've been trying this on 3 computers. 2 with the same chipset (AMD) and another with an Intel chipset. I'm trying to use a USB stick. It won't let me repartition it (it's not write protected) and using fdisk, and/or gdisk and gparted won't let me write a new partition table, or add/delete partitions (error 22 in fdisk, gparted says that DISK LABEL IS INVALID or something like that). I've tried to format using both fat16/32 and I've tried to "
[22:35] <Randomuser894739> dd dev zero".
[22:36] <c0deMaster> howto r/w on Journaled HFS+ ?
[22:37] <agoodm> Randomuser894739, sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx where x is the appropriate letter for your drive
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> Randomuser894739:  this is a brand new USB stick?
[22:37] <agoodm> then sudo fdisk /dev/sdx again where x is the the drive letter
 How can i turn on more messages
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> jase_:  'noquiet nosplash verbose'   I think..
[22:38] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: jase_ remove "quiet" replace with "debug"
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> theres a wiki page with the bootcodes..
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> !bootcode
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> !bootcodes
[22:38] <Randomuser894739> Dr_Willis, yes, it's been used a couple of times. I can't remember what I did last to it, partition wize. Used an HFS partition I think. It's ext4 now, but with the mentioned errors.
[22:38] <Randomuser894739> agoodm, yes
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> Randomuser894739:  if dd is unable to write to it.. the thing has serious issues.. check 'dmesg' output when you are trying to access it. may give some info
[22:39] <c0deMaster> howto r/w on Journaled HFS+ ?
[22:39] <jase_> Thanks all will give it a try  goodnight
[22:39] <Randomuser894739> Dr_Willis, dd can write to it and it ends, but it still shows my old partition, unchanged.
[22:39] <Randomuser894739> Dr_Willis, note: even after trying to write new partition table and reboot.
[22:39] <TJ-> Random832: Are you *sure* you are addressing the correct device? :D
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/16811/how-well-is-the-hfs-filesystem-supported
[22:40] <Randomuser894739> Dr_Willis, it had HFS, but has got the ext4 now…
[22:40] <Randomuser894739> It refuses to do anything with the ext4 partition
[22:41] <Dr_Willis> Randomuser894739:  perhaps pastebin the fdisk -l output.
[22:41] <c0deMaster> how to mount Journaled HFS with read/write?
[22:41] <Randomuser894739> Dr_Willis, it shows the USB stick as a working fat32 drive. Weird?
[22:41] <agoodm> Randomuser894739, after partitioning the drive did you format the partition ?
[22:41] <Randomuser894739> agoodm, yes.
[22:41] <Dr_Willis> Randomuser894739: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16811/how-well-is-the-hfs-filesystem-supported
[22:42] <Dr_Willis> oops c0deMaster : http://askubuntu.com/questions/16811/how-well-is-the-hfs-filesystem-supported
[22:42] <agoodm> Randomuser894739, if there is nothing on the drive lets start from scratch... its simple to do
[22:42] <jagginess> c0deMaster, i dont think that's safe unless you compile apple's hfs+ file.. (i've had corruption with hfsplus module in linux in the past, but this was like 2 years ago i did this)
[22:43] <agoodm> Randomuser894739, in all the following replace sdx with the drives letter for example sdb; sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx let it run for 30s then press controll + c
[22:43] <c0deMaster> jagginess, so how to share a parition between both Ubuntu and Mac with r/w ?
[22:43] <agoodm> the sudo fdisk /dev/sdx
[22:43] <agoodm> issue a p to confirm no partitions on device
[22:43] <jagginess> c0deMaster, use a file server, you can use samba
[22:43] <TJ-> agoodm: Randomuser894739 That would be better as "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdx"
[22:43] <Randomuser894739> agoodm and Dr_Willis , sorry for bothering you. Seems like 1 1/2 hour of googling, then me asking the question and I finally found a page which describes how to manually add, using heads and cylinders info.
[22:44] <jagginess> c0deMaster, or if you reboot the computer, a fat32 is perfectly safe
[22:44] <Randomuser894739> Typical, but thank you for the fast response.
[22:44] <jagginess> c0deMaster, (if you're talking about osx and linux being on the same computer and not using fileservices)
[22:45] <TJ-> Randomuser894739: You shouldn't need ever to mess with CHS.
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> yea.. I would guess somthign IS going bad with that usb.
[22:48] <Randomuser894739> Perhaps. It's a verbatim USB. Heard shoddy stuff about those.
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> check dmesg output next time you have issues with it.. may give a clue.
[22:49] <Randomuser894739> I wrote a puppy linux ISO using DD command. It shows the partition, but under gparted it stays as "Un allocated" with the same error message "Warning: /dev/sdc: Unrecognised disk label." I tried to boot from it even though it says that, since the partition shows. No go.
[22:49] <Randomuser894739> Disk label is lupu_528
[22:49] <TJ-> Randomuser894739: There's three steps: 1. blank sector 0 (where the partition table/disk label is stored), 2. create a disk label and partition table (using fdisk), 3. format the file-systems created by (2).
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> a ISO image to a usb is 'special' in a lot of ways..  since it dosent have a normal partiion layout.
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> to Undo an ISO to USB, i have to use dd to zero the flash, then repartion it
[22:50] <TJ-> Random832: I'd expect it to say that; there's no partition table in an ISO image
[22:50] <TJ-> Randomuser894739: : I'd expect it to say that; there's no partition table in an ISO image
[22:50] <Randomuser894739> I'll dd zero it. It took twenty minutes the last time I did that...
[22:51] <agoodm> Randomuser894739, just let it run for a few seconds and cancel it
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> Randomuser894739:  20 min? how big is it?
[22:51] <WeThePeople> armageddon out of here
[22:51] <Randomuser894739> agoodm, Ok, will do. Dr_Willis 4 gb.
[22:51] <TJ-> Randomuser894739: All you need to zero is sector 0: "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx bs=512 count=1"
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> Randomuser894739:  that shouldent take more then a few min
[22:52] <Randomuser894739> TJ- , thanks
[22:52] <Randomuser894739> Ok, now it says with fdisk -l that the disk does not contain a valid partition table. "Disk identifier: 0x00000000"
[22:53] <TJ-> Random832: And once you've done that run "sudo partprobe" ... if it isn't installed then do first "sudo apt-get install parted"
[22:53] <TJ-> Random832: That's good
[22:53] <TJ-> grrrr Randomuser894739 That's good
[22:53] <Randomuser894739> Fdisk said that the invalid partition table would be corrected with write.
[22:53] <Randomuser894739> Did that, and don't worry about the nick TJ- I'm reading :)
[22:54] <TJ-> Randomuser894739: now "sudo fdisk /dev/sdx"  then "new" "primary" set size then "type" 0x83 then "quit"
[22:54] <TJ-> Randomuser894739:  then run "sudo partprobe" as I said previously
[22:54] <Randomuser894739> Value out of range, it says
[22:55] <TJ-> Randomuser894739: "value out of range" in response to what, precisely? The type?
[22:55] <Randomuser894739> Oh sorry
[22:55] <atomicfusion> where can i download the powerpc hfs kernel modules?
[22:55] <Randomuser894739> I misread that
[22:55] <Randomuser894739> I've done as you've said TJ-
[22:55] <TJ-> Randomuser894739: Once "fdisk -l /ev/sdx" correctly shows the new partition we can format it
[22:56] <froben> excuse me...how can I talk in the italian chatroom for ubuntu?
[22:56] <Randomuser894739> TJ- It shows it correctly
[22:56] <zykotick9> !it | froben
[22:57] <TJ-> Randomuser894739: OK... now "sudo mkfs.ext4 -L USB /dev/sdx1" ... don't miss that trailing !1!
[22:57] <Randomuser894739> The device apparently does not exist; did you specify it correctly?
[22:58] <TJ-> Randomuser894739: Did you replace the "x" with your device's name?
[22:58] <Randomuser894739> Yes, sdc1
[22:58] <TJ-> Randomuser894739: Can you pastebin the response from that command please?
[22:59] <TJ-> Randomuser894739: And... did you run "sudo partprobe" before doing the "mkfs.ext4" ?
[22:59] <Randomuser894739> yes
[22:59] <TJ-> Randomuser894739: OK, good. "partprobe" ensures the kernel re-reads the disk's partition table
[23:00] <TJ-> Randomuser894739: the pastebin of the command output will help now
[23:00] <Randomuser894739> TJ- http://pastebin.com/yGkvPhyj
[23:00] <Randomuser894739> Doesn't say much though, sorry
[23:00] <Randomuser894739> It says (In norwegian) No such file or catalouge
[23:01] <TJ-> Randomuser894739: pastebin me the result of "cat /proc/partitions"
[23:01] <Randomuser894739> http://pastebin.com/992Ec78q
[23:02] <agoodm> Randomuser894739, fdisk -l /dev/sdc ?
[23:03] <TJ-> Random832: For some reason the fdisk session didn't get written. I now want you to pastebin me what is actually on the disk's first sector using this: "sudo dd if=/dev/sdc bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C"
[23:04] <Randomuser894739> http://pastebin.com/0nipNfA6
[23:05] <TJ-> Randomuser894739: that is very intriguing. I can see the partition data in that pastebin.
[23:05] <Randomuser894739> TJ- You seem to be the expert on partition kind of guy to go to, and I'm clueless myself :x
[23:06] <agoodm> im finding interesting reading myself and I am quite a seasoned linux bod managing large amounts of servers
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> agoodm: every day is a school day
[23:07] <StZ> Good evening. I'm wondering, is it possible to encrypt your whole disk, without having to reinstall ubuntu?
[23:07] <agoodm> always learning new stuff
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> agoodm: indeed
[23:07] <agoodm> StZ nope
[23:08] <Randomuser894739> TS- /dev does have sdc, but not sdc1. You specified to use sdc1, and not sdc, when mkfs, correct? I'm just checking.
[23:08] <agoodm> Randomuser894739, yes thats correct
[23:09] <agoodm> Randomuser894739, try to unplug and replug the drive, it seems the partition table isnt being re-read for some reason
[23:09] <Randomuser894739> agoodm, ok
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> Randomuser894739: what filesystem does the partition use?
[23:10] <agoodm> ActionParsnip, it would be ext4 if he could format it
[23:10] <Randomuser894739> ActionParsnip, TJ- told me to input 0x83
[23:10] <TJ-> Sorry about that... was rooting around for an old USB storage device to test on
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> agoodm: ah, so the data is going to be destroyed?
[23:10] <agoodm> ActionParsnip, better ask the user that :D
[23:11] <Randomuser894739> agoodm, http://pastebin.com/mPrjJjmU
[23:11] <Randomuser894739> after replug
[23:11] <Randomuser894739> ActionParsnip, yes. I just want it to be usable.
[23:11] <agoodm> ActionParsnip, since s(he) said that he dded over the drive and it took 20 min i guess not
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> Randomuser894739: are you going to format the partition
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> Randomuser894739: is it a flash based storage?
[23:12] <Randomuser894739> ActionParsnip, I will take whatever steps neccesary just to get it in a "usable" state. No data needs to be backed up. It's a USB stick
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> Randomuser894739: is it the 4Gb?
[23:12] <agoodm> Randomuser894739, before closing fdisk did you issue a 'w' or write command?
[23:13] <Randomuser894739> agoodm, no. I was told to "quit".
[23:13] <Randomuser894739> ActionParsnip, yes, it's the 4gb one.
[23:13] <agoodm> Randomuser894739, thats it
[23:13] <bluezone> Even with The acceleration and sensitivity all the way to minimum, the mouse is STILL too fast, is there anyway to reduce the pointer speed even furthur?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> Randomuser894739: do you have a magnet? You can put it near it on both sides and it should be formattable. Use as a last ditch
[23:13] <Randomuser894739> agoodm, should I redo the steps and issue the write command?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> bluezone: you can use an xorg.conf if needed
[23:13] <agoodm> Randomuser894739, fdisk /dev/sdc press n primary id 1 then type t press enter type 0x83 then w enter and quit
[23:14] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: you'd probably need an electro-magnet to actually wipe a drive...
[23:14] <agoodm> can provide precise instruction if needed
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: I've used a strong fridge magnet in the past. I've been in the same place.Works well
[23:15] <agoodm> bluezone, easiest way is xset m 0 0
[23:15] <agoodm> thats turns off acceleration should make it sloooow
[23:15] <Randomuser894739> It altered the partition table, agoodm . Still won't create mkfs.ext4
[23:15] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: good to know (i guess). of the potential danger ;)
[23:15] <Randomuser894739> Did the sudo partprobe command after "write"
[23:15] <agoodm> redo the dd command that read the table
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: hence 'last ditch' ;)
[23:16] <Randomuser894739> agoodm, /dev/sdc does not contain a valid partition table.
[23:16] <bluezone> agoodm, i ran that in term, still too fast lol
[23:16] <Randomuser894739> agoodm, sorry for being so slow on this.
[23:16] <agoodm> Randomuser894739, no problem, youll be learning quite rapidly
[23:17] <agoodm> Randomuser894739, before I go to bed let me format my flash pen so I can dictate the steps needed exactly
[23:17] <agoodm> need to fetch it first
[23:17] <zykotick9> bluezone: have to set sensitivity to full?  perhaps i have it backwards - but i'd think that should slow the mouse
[23:18] <Randomuser894739> I did the fdisk, add partition, type 0x83, write, then dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=512 count=1 , then I did the sudo partprobe, fdisk -l and it tells me it does not contain a valid partition table.
[23:18] <bluezone> ActionParsnip, what do you mean i can "use" an xorg.conf, isn't that some file?
[23:18] <Randomuser894739> Just to show you the steps I used now
[23:18] <zykotick9> bluezone: s/have to/have you/
[23:18] <bonhoeffer> how can i mount a hfs image file in 12.04?
[23:18] <agoodm> Randomuser894739, right got usb pen
[23:19] <bluezone> zykotick9, i'm not following what your saying :(
[23:19] <agoodm> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M count=1  - this over writes the first 1M of the disk ensuring the partition table is gone for good
[23:19] <TJ-> Randomuser894739: hang on. You did fdisk then followed with dd if=/dev/zero ?
[23:20] <agoodm> make sure to change sdb to your letter
[23:20] <agoodm> now
[23:20] <Randomuser894739> TJ-, now I did yes. Followed agoodm's steps
[23:20] <Randomuser894739> agoodm, done
[23:20] <agoodm> sudo fdisk /dev/sdx
[23:21] <agoodm> type: n followed by pressing enter
[23:21] <cetigar> I want to buy a laptop with Ubuntu preinstalled.  Would you recommend http://zareason.com/shop/UltraLap-430.html, https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/lemu4, http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/19/dell-to-ship-xps-13-with-ubuntu-linux-in-some-areas/, or something else?
[23:21] <agoodm> p followed by enter
[23:21] <agoodm> 1 followed by enter
[23:21] <Randomuser894739> Then default sizes?
[23:21] <agoodm> then enter twice for the defaults
[23:22] <agoodm> then type p and press enter
[23:22] <Randomuser894739> you mean, 4096 as first sector and the double for the next?
[23:22] <agoodm> pastebin the result
[23:22] <zykotick9> bluezone: ignore me :)  but i'd assume (perhaps incorrectly) that more sensitivity on the mouse would make it slower, not faster.
[23:22] <agoodm> Randomuser894739, if you dont enter any details it will use the defaults
[23:22] <Randomuser894739> Aha, sorry. My english isn't that good
[23:23] <agoodm> First sector (2048-15851519, default 2048): -- dont type anything just press enter
[23:23] <bluezone> Even with The acceleration and sensitivity all the way to minimum, the mouse is STILL too fast, is there anyway to reduce the pointer speed even furthur?, still ISO solution
[23:23] <agoodm> same for 'last sector'
[23:23] <cetigar> anyone have suggestions for ubuntu laptops?
[23:23] <Randomuser894739> agoodm, http://pastebin.com/1BG80Fp3
[23:23] <agoodm> that looks perfect now type w and press enter
[23:23] <Randomuser894739> Ok, done
[23:24] <agoodm> mine says Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
[23:24] <agoodm> did yours?
[23:24] <Randomuser894739> agoodm, says the same. Synced disks
[23:24] <agoodm> ok
[23:24] <Randomuser894739> It shows sdc1 now in fdisk -l
[23:24] <agoodm> ls /dev/ | grep sdc
[23:24] <TJ-> Yay
[23:24] <agoodm> excellent
[23:24] <agoodm> now try to format it :)
[23:24] <TJ-> now you can mkfs.ext4
[23:24] <Randomuser894739> Shows both sdc and sdc1
[23:24] <TJ-> for /dev/sdc1
[23:24] <Randomuser894739> it's working :))
[23:24] <bluezone> cetigar, i suppose you're not planning to play games on it, so the choice doesn't really matter as long as it meets the recommended system requirements
[23:25] <agoodm> got there in the end :D
[23:25] <Randomuser894739> I really wonder what went bad. Would it be safe to DD the puppylinux USB iso to the disk now?
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> cetigar:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/zareason-launch-the-first-linux-ultrabook
[23:25] <TJ-> Randomuser894739: NO!!!
[23:25] <agoodm> Randomuser894739, that would erase the partition table you just created
[23:25] <Randomuser894739> I see. I understand now
[23:25] <TJ-> Randomuser894739: You do that you erase everything. An ISO is for CDs/DVDs. They do not use partition tables so would wipe out everything
[23:26] <Randomuser894739> The reason I want puppylinux on there is because I have a small netbook. I downloaded the ISO and it said it was USB bootable. How would you go on having the bootable ISO on there?
[23:26] <cetigar> bluezone ok, thanks
[23:26] <Randomuser894739> TJ- I've been able to dd Aros, Icaros, Haiku and windows 98 on it before?
[23:26] <jagginess> Randomuser894739, this #ubuntu
[23:26] <Randomuser894739> I don't understand if it is just for cd's only.
[23:26] <TJ-> Random832: It may have syslinux on there as the bootloader... In which case when you boot the PC from the USB device, the bootloader should be read by the PC BIOS and that should lead to the USB device booting
[23:26] <cetigar> dr_willis that one is very tempting, but the system76 is much cheaper.  Are the system76 laptops as thick as people say they are?
[23:26] <jagginess> Randomuser894739, wrong channel :/
[23:26] <Randomuser894739> jagginess, yes.The problem was to make an USB stick usable in ubuntu
[23:27] <agoodm> its safe to do it, but afterwards you must wipe out the start of the disk and re partition it so you can re use it
[23:27] <Randomuser894739> That problem has been fixed. Just asked an addon question
[23:27] <jagginess> Randomuser894739, use pendrives universal usb maker
[23:27]  * agoodm re creates his systemrescuecd usb flash pen
[23:27] <slugger> can i move the launcher to the bottom like a make without an app
[23:27] <Randomuser894739> jagginess, ok, thank you
[23:28] <Randomuser894739> TJ- and agoodm thank you very much. I will try to use jagginess suggestion now
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> Randomuser894739: tried unetbootin
[23:28] <Randomuser894739> I have to reboot into windows :(
[23:28] <jagginess> Randomuser894739, it makes a usb bootable for more than just ubuntu (it does puppy too i believe), but it's a windows app
[23:28] <bluezone> Dr_Willis: 899$ ? even with that good ssd, ridiculously overpriced imo
[23:28] <Randomuser894739> ActionParsnip, no, is it for ubuntu?
[23:28] <agoodm> unetbootin can be installed on ubuntu too
[23:29] <Randomuser894739> Ok, I will add the PPA and try.
[23:29] <slugger> uggggggggggggggg can i
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> Randomuser894739: its in the repos, its also available for Windows and Max
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> *mac
[23:29] <jagginess> i believe the latest .iso's of debian and ubuntu, one can do->"cat yourdistro.iso > /dev/<USBDEVICE>" (usbdevice gets wiped out)
[23:29] <slugger> hello
[23:29] <jagginess> for any other distro, you'll have to read if that can be done.
[23:30] <Randomuser894739> jagginess, What is the command "Cat" exactly? I see it being used often. Sorry that it's not ubuntu related, just want to learn
[23:30] <slugger> hello answer me
[23:30] <agoodm> jagginess, this works for most situations except  where the machine will only boot uefi mode from usb. its better to use dd
[23:30] <jagginess> (but there's unetbootin and pendrive, i prefer pendrive's tools)
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> slugger: you can with a PPA but its known to break things
[23:30] <slugger> answer me noe
[23:30] <agoodm> Randomuser894739, it prints the contents of a file onto the standard output
[23:30] <cetigar> do you guys have high hopes for the XPS13 coming out with Ubuntu preinstalled? http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/19/dell-to-ship-xps-13-with-ubuntu-linux-in-some-areas/
[23:30] <slugger> i want the launcher like mac
[23:30] <slugger> now
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> slugger: nobody has to answer you , you know...
[23:30] <Michaelx92> guys
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> !dock | slugger
[23:31] <Michaelx92> can you help me
[23:31] <Michaelx92> adf.lying?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> slugger: your attitude is pathetic, so no
[23:31] <Randomuser894739> I'm writing puppylinux using unetbootin now.
[23:31] <jagginess> agoodm, dd doesnt do anything to the stream.. you're wrong on this..