[12:12] <Chousuke> you may simply implement it badly.
[12:12] <bobbyyu> There, it's normal
[12:12] <bobbyyu> Thanks
[12:13] <caseyomah> Any computer (technology) can emulate any other computer (technology) given enough time.
[12:13] <softmaster>  is there any way to use subtitles with rmvb in kubuntu please ?
[12:13] <aterphasma> so... again with the wondering about battery monitor/ACPI
[12:13] <caseyomah> softmaster: Sorry, I'mve never used rmvb.
[12:13] <Chousuke> softmaster: try with helix player/realplayer
[12:14] <Chousuke> Real player for Linux is actually quite good
[12:14] <Trollinator> i prefer mplayer.
[12:14] <caseyomah> Chousuke: Not like the Win32 version that glitches everything but itself?
[12:14] <Trollinator> it's like FAST!
[12:14] <Chousuke> caseyomah: not like that at all.
[12:14] <sorush20> my printer is pcl how do I get it to work do I have to do anything special?
[12:14] <sorush20> !pcl
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <Chousuke> caseyomah: it's a nice GTK2 app.
[12:15] <Chousuke> caseyomah: it doesn't have apps and weird gimmicks either.
[12:15] <Trollinator> GTK2 apps are never nice :p
[12:15] <Chousuke> ..
[12:15] <softmaster> this cant be
[12:15] <Chousuke> ads*
[12:15] <Chousuke> Trollinator: shush
[12:15] <softmaster> because realplayer doesnt support subtitles
[12:15] <Chousuke> oh, well. :/
[12:16] <softmaster> anyone knows
[12:16] <softmaster> ?
[12:16] <Trollinator>  because realplayer doesnt support subtitles  <--yep. That's because it's GTK based :D
[12:16] <Chousuke> try running the rmvb with mplayer and specify the subtitle file manually.
[12:16] <caribou8> !vnc
[12:16] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[12:16] <Chousuke> Trollinator: Don't lie. :P
[12:16] <caseyomah> softmaster: I know oKle supports subtitles, but that's just for DVD.
[12:16] <VanessaE> ok that was a rather long 30 mins.....
[12:16] <caribou8> !freenx
[12:16] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[12:17] <TheNameless> hello
[12:18] <caseyomah> How would I allow a Win32 Box to open a Remote Desktop to KDE?
[12:18] <teledyn> mplayer, xine, vlc all support subtitle files
[12:18] <Trollinator> everyone should switch to Qt. GTK should be re-implemented as a layer upon Qt as far as possible for legacy apps (like GNOME) and all future development should take place on Qt and KDE
[12:18] <TheNameless> what is the command, where i can see how much bytes are free, .. on my harddisk?
[12:18] <Trollinator> caseyomah: Google for Xming
[12:18] <fdoving> TheNameless: 'df'
[12:18] <Trollinator> TheNameless: df -h
[12:18] <georgeb> caseyomah: if you want to remote connect to the kde from windows download a vnc client
[12:19] <Zarephath> I need to identify ip addresses assigned inside my local lan...I have 4 computer that are using static ips..I have one that is getting ip assigned via dhcp...what tool would I use to find out the ip assigned via dhcp from a different computer?
[12:19] <Trollinator> arp -a
[12:19] <TheNameless> Trollinator: thanks,... oh it isn't musch ^^
[12:20] <Chousuke> arp -a? :P
[12:20] <b3r53rk> hello everyone
[12:20] <TheNameless> much ...
[12:20] <omicron> hi. i use an us keyboard layout on kubuntu edgy with alt-intl. with dapper I was able to enter umlauts with the deadkeys. that does not work any more. can there be a problem with utf-8?
[12:20] <Chousuke> that shows something different :P
[12:20] <Trollinator> um...yes
[12:20] <aterphasma> what's the url for the kubuntu bug system?
[12:20] <Trollinator> sry :)
[12:20] <teledyn> try nmap -sP <IP_ADDRESS>-254
[12:20] <fdoving> aterphasma: bugs.ubuntu.com
[12:20] <aterphasma> thanks
[12:20] <b3r53rk> here goes the n00by question: "is there a smart way to solve dependencies?" >.<
[12:21] <georgeb> caseyomah: if you want to remote connect from linux to win32 there are two ways: 1. if XP/2000 enable remote desktop connection or terminal services and on linux you can use krdc; 2. install a vnc server on windows, ant you can connect with a vnc client (ie. krdc)
[12:21] <fdoving> b3r53rk: try 'sudo apt-get -f install' from konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole)
[12:21] <VanessaE> b3r53rk, normally apt does that for you.  sometimes the -f switch helps though
[12:21] <Zarephath> Trollinator: Ah yes..kewl..and now for teledyn and see what that does...thanks for learning me folks :-)
[12:22] <b3r53rk> thanks fdoving, i'll try it out
[12:22] <b3r53rk> also thanks to VanessaE
[12:22] <Trollinator> ummm... Zarephath, did that work??
[12:24] <georgeb> caseyomah: to allow remote desktop connection on windows go to control panel-> system; and there's a tab with remote desktop or smth like that
[12:25] <Trollinator> whatever, i must go to sleep...
[12:25] <Trollinator> what time is it whereever you live?
[12:26] <georgeb> Trollinator: 01:26 am
[12:26] <Zarephath> trollinator: Yep somewhat...however the nmap command showed me everything..thanks
[12:26] <Trollinator> is that UK?
[12:26] <georgeb> Trollinator: romania; gmt+2
[12:27] <Trollinator> hm.
[12:27] <Zarephath> teledyn: Is is possible to get the mac address remotely of a given ip?
[12:28] <morfic> Zarephath: ask arp maybe, just run it
[12:28] <georgeb> Trollinator: you could do some  "/ctcp georgeb time" on random people :)
[12:28] <b3r53rk> VanessaE, that uninstalled about everything, was that supposed to be a joke or did i miss something? ^^
[12:28] <Zarephath> morfic: Kewl just specify the ip eh?
[12:28] <morfic> Zarephath: i am not sure it does what you want, run it w/o options and see
[12:29] <bobbyyu> Now, how to do I export the Linux Java path : /home/bobbyyu/Java/jdk1.5.0_07/bin to be global throughout the shell?
[12:29] <sorush20> sorush20
[12:29] <omicron> does anybody has a hit for my umlauts problem mentioned above?
[12:29] <Trollinator> well, whatever
[12:29] <sorush20> sorush
[12:29] <Trollinator> init 0
[12:29] <georgeb> Zarephath: you can find out the mac if only that computer is in your network (if you don't have to go thru the gateway to get to them :) )
[12:29] <omicron> s/hit/hint/
[12:29] <Trollinator> err...
[12:29] <redtricycle> Is there a command line option to trash something?
[12:29] <redtricycle> The mv command to the trash folder doesn't refresh the trash:/
[12:29] <redtricycle> for the gui
[12:30] <morfic> Zarephath: you might not see past the router
[12:30] <luksan> red ktrash ;-)
[12:30] <bobbyyu> I've done it before, but I forgot. Forgive me
[12:30] <luksan> redtricycle: ktrash
[12:30] <redtricycle> Thank you!
[12:30] <redtricycle> And under ktrash --help
[12:30] <redtricycle> is Note: to move files to the trash, do not use ktrash, but "kfmclient move 'url' trash:/"
[12:30] <redtricycle> so that works great too =)
[12:30] <fdoving> redtricycle: don't use ktrash, it's not ment to be used that way.
[12:30] <cox377> I know this is not a related topic @ all but you guys are pretty switched on to this type of thing so here goes
[12:30] <luksan> but i have found that in general file alteration doesn't work on kubuntu
[12:31] <Zarephath> georgeb,morfic: That is just awesome..thanks for the replies..that is exaclty what I wanted to do...I have a guest in my household that has been asked not to use the internet..and she continues to ignore my request...now I can block the mac address of the wireless card and no more internet access...mwahhahahahah
[12:31] <fdoving> redtricycle: 'kfmclient move file trash:/'
[12:31] <georgeb> Zarephath: arp=address resolve protocol (or smth like that); it does the matching between a IP and a MAC in a network; MAC works at a lower level protocol than IP
[12:31] <naur> i cant install mozilla firefox in my kubuntu, i go to adept installer - any suite and i found firefox but its in grey. i cannot go to the adept help.
[12:31] <redtricycle> thank you, fdo
[12:31] <cox377> i have to make suggestion to someone about eliminating audio typing, i';m trying to find a piece of kit, that can record voice straight into digital text without having to use a laptop to convert it
[12:32] <Zarephath> georgeb: Yep I remember that somewhere in my minimal exposure to tcp/ip...it is unique so that mac address will no longer work when blocked in the router... ;-)
[12:32] <georgeb> Zarephath: hmm.. what kind of access point do you use ?
[12:33] <unix_infidel> cox377: a program or a hardware device?
[12:33] <t3hwiz0rd> are there any programs that can recover formatted data for linux? similar to Get Data Back
[12:33] <georgeb> Zarephath: first you have to find out what ip does that computer has now; ping that ip; then arp -a, and you will see a entry for that ip and the mac; then, if the access point has a MAC address black list or smth you can block it from there
[12:34] <georgeb> Zarephath: the AP is secured with WEP/WAP ?
[12:34] <Zarephath> georgeb: Well just a inexpensive linksys setup as a gateway...she is getting access from the wireless...I
[12:34] <Zarephath> georgeb: nope...because xandors open community has something funky with wpa_supplicant..when I enable it on my sons computer..I can't the wireless connection to see the ssid broadcast..
[12:35] <cox377> unix_infidel: a hardware device, like your normal handheld voice recorder, but can convert it straight into text that would then say be uploadable via USB. Currently all i have found records it to audio, usb upload then the PC app converts it but it takes the time of the recording to convert it to text
[12:35] <Zarephath> *xandros*
[12:35] <unix_infidel> cox377: never seen one, i'd like to buy one myself.
[12:36] <unix_infidel> but i'd first buy a decent OCR first :)
[12:36] <Zarephath> Thanks for the help!
[12:36] <georgeb> Zarephath: I don't know if this applies to your access point but you can check it out: http://www.worldwidewardrive.org/linksys/linksys3.html
[12:36] <cox377> unix_infidel: no idea why such a thing isn't on the market.. all it's doing surely is using the normal voice reconition software but in a handheld device
[12:36] <unix_infidel> cox377: because its too intensive.
[12:36] <unix_infidel> computers are more suited for it.
[12:36] <rpedro> anyone else getting a 'floating point exception' when running amarok under Edgy?
[12:37] <cox377> unix_infidel: true, i suppoes there is quite a lot of processing power require but in this day and age it's not a huge amount to ask for surely
[12:37] <unix_infidel> cox377: it surely eis.
[12:38] <unix_infidel> we can barely make PDA's that have the same power of a p3 and have battery life 2x-3x that of a laptop without it costing close to a real laptop.
[12:38] <LastMall> doesn't nuance software have software for handhelds ?
[12:38] <cox377> unix_infidel: i mean the it's not a greatissue that theres involvement with the PC, but if you have 6 hours of audio u have to wait 6 hours for it to convert
[12:39] <unix_infidel> cox377: people have clustesr for trhat...they parallelise the content.
[12:39] <cox377> unix_infidel: very true.. i hadn't really thought about the processing side of it
[12:39] <cox377> unix_infidel: what exactly do you mean??
[12:40] <rav3n> hey, i've just updated to edgy i haev a problem..whn the system boots up and i log in i can access read/write my fat32 part. but when i exit the session and log in again i can't access them when i double lcik on them i see no files in there
[12:41] <rav3n> when i try to write
[12:41] <rav3n> it says no permission
[12:42] <rav3n> any help?
[12:42] <georgeb> rav3n: run mount and check if that partition is mounted
[12:43] <rav3n> not mounted :S
[12:43] <rav3n> how can i mount it
[12:43] <rav3n> ?
[12:43] <georgeb> rav3n: look in /etc/fstab if it's there an entry for it
[12:44] <rav3n> yeah there is
[12:44] <georgeb> rav3n: then run sudo mount /path/to/folder    it should work
[12:45] <rpedro> anyone else getting a 'floating point exception' when running amarok under Edgy?
[12:46] <rav3n> georgeb: still nothing..this problem only occurs when i log off and log in again
[12:46] <rav3n> but if i restarted i will the partitions fine
[12:47] <rav3n> georgebi will see the partitions fine *
[12:47] <t3hwiz0rd> how can you add or remove users from the sudo list?
[12:47] <rav3n> georgeb i will see the partitions fine *
[12:47] <Avdi> t3hwiz0rd-SR2: look at the /etc/sudoers file
[12:47] <georgeb> rav3n: is that on some kind of removable device ?
[12:47] <rav3n> nope
[12:47] <rav3n> a partition of my HD
[12:48] <flaccid_> t3hwiz0rd: the admin group is sudo access by default
[12:48] <georgeb> rav3n: when you ran mount.. did you get any output ?
[12:48] <jontec> I don't have sound in wine. T_T how do I get it?
[12:48] <t3hwiz0rd> flaccid_: whats odd is the user in question doesn't have admin as a primary OR secondary group
[12:49] <georgeb> rav3n: or take a look in /var/log/messages and see if you see any error when you tried to mount it
[12:49] <t3hwiz0rd> flaccid_: but they can still run sudo
[12:49] <rav3n> george: it mounted :)
[12:50] <rav3n> georgeb: but still if i logged off it will happen again
[12:50] <jontec> sorry, okay, now I'm identified... I don't have sound in wine. how do I fix it?
[12:50] <rav3n> wait i'll try and come back again
[12:53] <georgeb> t3hwiz0rd: login as that user and run id and check the groups
[12:53] <rav3n> georgeb: same thing
[12:53] <rav3n> georgeb: unmounted...
[12:54] <rav3n> georgeb: any ideas?
[12:54] <georgeb> rav3n: check /var/log/messages for any errors
[12:54] <georgeb> rav3n: or if you see anything about mounting/umounting that partition
[12:55] <jontec> anyone have problems with sound in wine?
[12:56] <rav3n> nuthing at all
[12:56] <rav3n> everything seems fine
[12:56] <thompa> are the kubuntu edgy users here now too?
[12:57] <trym|work> #ubuntu+1
[12:57] <trym|work> wait
[12:57] <trym|work> its relased
[12:57] <trym|work> hmm
[12:57] <thompa> still?
[12:57] <trym|work> nevermind ;)
[12:57] <thompa> heh
[12:57] <trym|work> just acting on routine
[12:57] <thompa> ok, why does ubuntu gnome have no disk mount utility like kde?
[12:58] <navaburo> jontec, everyone has problems with wine, its just the severity.
[12:58] <thompa> i have a second hard drive, thought i would try ubuntu, now back to KDE
[12:58] <navaburo> jontec, what program has issues?
[12:59] <jontec> it's a flash issue I believe
[12:59] <jontec> it's one of my student cds that I am running
[12:59] <thompa> anyone running real player on 64 version?
[12:59] <nub> I have an external hard drive and a usb key and whenever I plug one in it comes up with the "open it in a new window" option. When I click the open it in a new window it doesn't do anything. Any suggestions?
[12:59] <jontec> but it could also be quicktime because it's required for use
[01:01] <caseyomah> !quicktime
[01:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:02] <jontec> navaburo:sorry I didn't finish explaining... the video works fine, but the sounds doesn't work at all
[01:02] <jontec> sound*
[01:03] <navaburo> jontec, I never got several codecs to run in wine, quicktime included
[01:03] <navaburo> i am not sure if it even works.
[01:03] <jontec> dang. that sucks.
[01:03] <jontec> 'guess I'm still windows dependent. T_T
[01:04] <navaburo> jontec, well, non-free dependant typically iimplies windows dependant unfortunately
[01:04] <clyrrad> Is anyone having trouble with X11 fonts?  I am trying to install xfonts-base and i get error message warning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory - so I tried to manually create teh directory but still get error - can anyon help?
[01:04] <navaburo> jontec, i dont know if its an option for you, but you can run a windows virtual machine inside linux. If you only need windows occasionally
[01:04] <navaburo> check out qemu or vmware
[01:05] <Bubba_Gump> i'm loving being windows free as i've transferred very to kubuntu (my two copper coins :) )
[01:05] <navaburo> i use it for office2003
[01:05] <thompa> my sounds are repeating over and over, help
[01:05] <thompa> its only in kubuntu 64
[01:05] <jontec> not enough memory on this compy to run vmware in linux... and my use of kubuntu is too much to run kubuntu from within windows
[01:06] <clyrrad> I have a bunch of pcf.gz files in /usr/share/fonts/X11 - but I assume these are teh files I need only compressed - can anyone tell me how to install them?
[01:06] <jontec> I've got 1.2Ghz and 384MB memory... not enough to do much of anything on here.
[01:07] <clyrrad> can anybody help me out??
[01:07] <thompa> i cant mute the sound either it wont stop
[01:08] <Bubba_Gump> clyrrad, have you searched the internet for a few possible answers?
[01:08] <brobison> clyrrad: Have you checked to see what is in the zip?  i.e. gzip -t pcf.gz
[01:08] <clyrrad> I have been all over Google for hours
[01:08] <clyrrad> no luck
[01:09] <Bubba_Gump> I'll be happy to know an outcome <learning linux you see :)
[01:09] <brobison> and where did you get these pcf.gz files....?
[01:09] <thompa> how do i turn off the system sounds
[01:10] <brobison> thompa, did you try:  SystemSettings, Sound System, uncheck Enable the sound system ?
[01:11] <thompa> yes
[01:11] <clyrrad> does anyone have these fonts intalled?
[01:11] <Bubba_Gump> thompa: i think it may be in notifications
[01:11] <clyrrad> I only had this problem since installing Edgy
[01:11] <thompa> brobison: its repeating constantly
[01:11] <Bubba_Gump> which ones are you hoping to turn off?
[01:11] <clyrrad> on Dapper I never had this issue
[01:11] <brobison> clyrrad, i am running edgy and do not see the pcf.gz files.....
[01:12] <clyrrad> look in /usr/share/fonts/X11
[01:12] <brobison> i did
[01:12] <clyrrad> this makes no sense then....
[01:12] <clyrrad> why would I have them....
[01:12] <Bubba_Gump> thompa: go to system settings > notifications , then, turn off all sounds
[01:13] <shadowhywind> does anyone know how to compile the kernel with uinput support
[01:13] <LastMall> clyrrad  update install ?
[01:13] <clyrrad> brobison... where are your fonts?
[01:13] <clyrrad> LastMall - what do you mean?
[01:13] <LastMall> clyrrad  did you do an update install or a clean install ?
[01:13] <clyrrad> clean install
[01:14] <brobison> clyrrad - i have directories there
[01:14] <clyrrad> go into the directory misc
[01:14] <clyrrad> what do you see?
[01:14] <brobison> clyrrad -- ahh... I see them there
[01:14] <brobison> I suspect they are accessible in gzip format by the font server
[01:14] <clyrrad> brobison - can you try this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-base
[01:15] <clyrrad> i get this error
[01:15] <clyrrad> Setting up xfonts-base (1.0.0-3ubuntu1) ...
[01:15] <clyrrad> warning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory
[01:15] <E[m] ess> if i have 2 computers ona  network that need updating and one downloaded all the edgy files, can the other read them from it or does it also need to download 800mb?
[01:15] <brobison> clyrrad - and yet you said misc is a directory?
[01:15] <clyrrad> even if you try to create that directory it does not work
[01:16] <clyrrad> I would imagine misc would be a directory yes
[01:16] <brobison> but you dont have that directory?
[01:16] <clyrrad> can anyone else on Edgy confirm if they get the same problem trying to install the xfonts-base?
[01:16] <clyrrad> nope
[01:16] <clyrrad> its not there
[01:16] <clyrrad> I even tried to create it
[01:16] <brobison> do you have any directories in that fonts/X11 dir?
[01:16] <clyrrad> but I get the same error
[01:16] <Bubba_Gump> E[m] less: could you copy the files across to the computer that has yet to get edgy?
[01:17] <clyrrad> yes i do
[01:17] <clyrrad> 100dpi  75dpi  encodings  fonts.cache-1  misc  Type1  util
[01:17] <thompa> sounds ok now, it went nuts and i had to reboot, seems its a 64 bit glitch
[01:17] <brobison> so, is misc there or not -- looks like it is? --
[01:17] <clyrrad> yes its tehre in /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc
[01:17] <clyrrad> and inside it has a bunch of .pcf.gz files
[01:18] <brobison> ok -- as far as I know that is correct, what is the problem?
[01:18] <clyrrad> problem is I cant install the fonts
[01:18] <E[m] ess> Bubba_Gump: if i knew where tehy were i could, and where on the remote to put them
[01:18] <brobison> how do you know they are not there?  Are you saying you cannot use the fonts?
[01:18] <clyrrad> yes when I try to use vnc it complains the fonts are missing
[01:19] <Bubba_Gump> I think you may have to download them again
[01:19] <thompa> ok system notifications . found sound there
[01:19] <clyrrad> brobison: were you able to run that command?
[01:20] <clyrrad> or did you get the same error as me?
[01:20] <brobison> i have not tried to re-install yet, still want to see exactly what is going on -- I think the xfonts-base appears to be OK
[01:20] <brobison> you could look at /var/lib/dpgk/info/xfonts-base.list and see the list of what is included....
[01:21] <clyrrad> if they are there the --reinstall shoudl work with out giving an error
[01:21] <brobison> also, if you do xlsfonts do you not see the fonts you want?  Which specific one (s) is it complaining about?
[01:21] <clyrrad> Could not init font path element /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from list!
[01:21] <clyrrad> Could not init font path element /usr/share/X11/fonts/TTF/, removing from list!
[01:21] <clyrrad> Could not init font path element /usr/share/X11/fonts/OTF, removing from list!
[01:21] <clyrrad> and a few others
[01:22] <clyrrad> but its the same error
[01:22] <clyrrad> but the worst error is this one
[01:22] <clyrrad> Fatal server error:
[01:22] <clyrrad> could not open default font 'fixed'
[01:22] <Dr_willis> those are not errors - those are messages. :) the last is an error.
[01:22] <clyrrad> yes correct
[01:22] <clyrrad> but I feel they are all related
[01:22] <Dr_willis> of course i just got here... and seen that message befor in different cases
[01:22] <clyrrad> I did some google searchign and they said to reinstall the fonts
[01:23] <clyrrad> but I cant becase of the error I get with --reinstall
[01:23] <brobison> The reinstall gives warnings... not errors.  It is   mentioning some other possible font directories that are not there
[01:23] <Dr_willis> start at the begining..  what is giving you this error.
[01:23] <clyrrad> VNC
[01:23] <clyrrad> when I type vncserver
[01:23] <Dr_willis> and let me guess.. you installed tightvnc...
[01:23] <clyrrad> it writes those messages to the log file
[01:23] <clyrrad> no
[01:23] <brobison> does xlsfonts | grep fixed show that fixed is there....
[01:23] <katje> #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:23] <clyrrad> x11vnc
[01:24] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. i didenet think x11vnc used the vncserver command.
[01:24] <clyrrad> im sure this is related to the fonts not being isntalled
[01:24] <clyrrad> and  sudo apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-base does not work
[01:25] <clyrrad> Setting up xfonts-base (1.0.0-3ubuntu1) ...
[01:25] <clyrrad> warning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory
[01:25] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  some of the 'vncserver' scripts look for xf86conf instead of the xorg.conf file. ive seen this error many a time with various vnc packages..
[01:25] <brobison> warning != error
[01:25] <clyrrad> ok - but it stops there
[01:25] <Dr_willis>     /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc
[01:25] <klondike> clyrrad: why don't you make that dir?
[01:25] <clyrrad> I have made it
[01:25] <clyrrad> manually
[01:26] <clyrrad> it makes no difference
[01:26] <Dr_willis> is where the fonts are at under ubntu.. the vncserver script normally  gets the fonts paths from the xorg config file..  IT may be looking for the wrong x11 config file.
[01:27] <clyrrad> but i dont have the /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc
[01:27] <klondike> clyrrad and does it containa ny kind of font?
[01:27] <clyrrad> or any fonts there
[01:27] <clyrrad> .. /usr/share/X11/fonts/ is empty - not folders or fonts in tthere
[01:28] <klondike> and /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
[01:28] <Dr_willis> http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/
[01:28] <clyrrad> nope nothing there
[01:28] <clyrrad> its empty too
[01:28] <Dr_willis> x11vnc is not started by 'vncserver'
[01:29] <klondike> it's really strange
[01:29] <clyrrad> vnc4server
[01:29] <malick> how we use rpm
[01:29] <klondike> you may have any fonts there
[01:29] <Dr_willis> ls /usr/share/X11/fonts/
[01:29] <Dr_willis> 100dpi  75dpi  encodings  fonts.cache-1  misc  Type1
[01:29] <klondike> malick:  just use alien
[01:29] <Dr_willis> hmmm
[01:29] <clyrrad> I dont seem to have any fonts there that is what is so strange
[01:30] <clyrrad> ls /usr/share/X11/fonts
[01:30] <clyrrad> misc
[01:30] <Dr_willis> Ok.. my edgy machine and dapper machine seem to differ...
[01:30] <clyrrad> cd misc
[01:30] <clyrrad> bash: cd: misc: No such file or directory
[01:30] <clyrrad> so misc is there but you cant get into it
[01:30] <malick> thanks
[01:31] <clyrrad> If I go as root I can get in there - but the misc folder is empty there are not fonts in there
[01:31] <Dr_willis> edgy -----> /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/
[01:31] <clyrrad> do you have fonts in that folder on your system?
[01:31] <Dr_willis> dapper ---> ls /usr/share/X11/fonts/
[01:32] <clyrrad> Dr_willis - yes in  /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ I have files
[01:32] <clyrrad> bunch of pcf.gz files
[01:32] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  thats where the vncserver script should be looking then. I am guessing the script is defaulting to the otehr dirs by mistake
[01:32] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  so you are on edgy? or dapper?
[01:32] <clyrrad> was on dapper before - now im on a clean install of Edgy
[01:33] <malick> I want to know how we use it
[01:33] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  and you installed vnc4server?
[01:33] <clyrrad> yes
[01:33] <Dr_willis> ok.. installing that now.. to recreate the issue.
[01:33] <clyrrad> ok thanks :)
[01:33] <Dr_willis> I cant belive these vncservers are STILL having this issue.
[01:34] <Dr_willis> Ive trouble shot this a dozen times. :)
[01:34] <clyrrad> worked great on Dapper
[01:34] <Dr_willis> do a ...
[01:34] <Dr_willis> ls -l /etc/alternatives/vncserver
[01:34] <Dr_willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2006-10-29 19:34 /etc/alternatives/vncserver -> /usr/bin/vnc4server
[01:35] <clyrrad> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2006-10-28 23:38 /etc/alternatives/vncserver -> /usr/bin/vnc4server
[01:35] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  ive had issued with all the differnt vnc servers under dapper/edgy. :) vnc4 used to work fine.. tightvnc had the font issue.. heh
[01:35] <clyrrad> looks good
[01:36] <clyrrad> how do you start your x11vnc?
[01:36] <Dr_willis> could not open default font 'fixed'
[01:36] <Dr_willis> xsetroot:  unable to open display 'audigy:1'
[01:36] <Dr_willis> ok same error.. NOW lets look at the vncserver script.. :)
[01:36] <clyrrad> yea i been getting those too
[01:36] <Dr_willis> this is the same OLD error ive trouble shot a dozen times. :)
[01:36] <clyrrad> what did you type to get that error?
[01:38] <Dr_willis> looked at the vncserver logs. :)
[01:38] <Dr_willis> now looking at the vncserver script.
[01:38] <clyrrad> what are you using to try and start your x11vnc server?
[01:39] <Dr_willis> I dont mess with x11vnc thats not started by vncserver :)
[01:39] <Dr_willis> x11vnc is a different beast from what i am reading on its docs.
[01:40] <clyrrad> its what I used on Dapper
[01:40] <Dr_willis> I use vnc all the time  - ive never had to use x11vnc, it depends on what/how you are connecting/doing with the vncserver stuff.
[01:40] <clyrrad> Well I used tightvnc before too but its WAY too slow
[01:41] <clyrrad> so swithced and it worked on Dapper great
[01:41] <Cyron> Ok, who's willing to help a newb sort out his refresh rates in Kubuntu?
[01:41] <clyrrad> I used Xvnc too and was able to start sessions using :1 instead of :0 dispaly
[01:41] <clyrrad> so it was great
[01:41] <flaccid> whats the problem
[01:42] <knock12> hello :)
[01:42] <flaccid> hi
[01:42] <knock12> I have a big question. I have changed the standard kubuntu kde theme by selecting another. How can I restore the standard kde theme? :(
[01:42] <Cyron> Well basically, I've installed the nvidia beta drivers, and in gnome, I get my nice high resolutions and high refresh rates.   KDE loads in my high resolution (1280x1024) but it only does it at 65Hz or something
[01:43] <Cyron> 85Hz isn't even in my resolution options
[01:43] <Cyron> Though if I change it to 50Hz, it actually goes to 85Hz
[01:43] <Cyron> But I have to do that manually each time I load KDE
[01:43] <flaccid> i start my x11vnc in /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsetup with /usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -shared -rfbauth /root/.vncpasswd -rfbport 5900 -bg -o /var/log/x11vnc
[01:43] <clyrrad> Dr_willis: it was actually the XDMCP that allowed me to start the remote sessions using :1 0 but that no longer works
[01:44] <clyrrad> flaccid - yep I had that on Dapper too
[01:44] <clyrrad> so it autostarted
[01:45] <Dr_willis> from what i am gathering the vncserver script/configs are not parsing the correct info for the font paths.
[01:45] <flaccid> clyrrad: so your problem is XDMCP/remote X and not vnc at all?
[01:46] <clyrrad> well remote access to teh desktop over VNC is what I am trying to get working
[01:46] <paul00257> can someone help me get wine installed i can see it in adept installer but it is grayed out and i cant install it
[01:46] <knock12> no one knowing how to restore the default kubuntu kde theme? :/
[01:46] <flaccid> clyrrad: isn't that what vnc gives you?
[01:46] <clyrrad> I have VNC on my laptop (windoze) and x11vnc on the kubuntu desktop im trying to connect to
[01:46] <flaccid> knock12: there is no default theme, but various styles are selected
[01:46] <clyrrad> no vnc wont even connect
[01:46] <Dr_willis> you could edit the vnc.conf file to set them manually, they are  set by default to read the XF86Config not the xorg.conf which is odd.
[01:47] <flaccid> clyrrad: what is the error?
[01:47] <clyrrad> cant connect
[01:47] <Raven301> !codec
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <flaccid> it should give an error code, clyrrad
[01:47] <clyrrad> its becase the x11vnc server does not seem to be running
[01:47] <clyrrad> no error corde
[01:47] <clyrrad> code
[01:47] <flaccid> how about 100061 or something?
[01:48] <clyrrad> just said "Failed to conenct to server"
[01:48] <clyrrad> no error code
[01:48] <flaccid> is x11vnc running and is firewall allowing?
[01:48] <clyrrad> does kubuntu have a firewall by default?
[01:48] <flaccid> can't remember. iirc it doesn't
[01:49] <clyrrad> i dont see the x11vnc service running
[01:49] <clyrrad> ps aux |grep vnc
[01:49] <flaccid> x11vnc is not a service unless you made it into a service
[01:49] <clyrrad> nothing shows
[01:49] <flaccid> ok, then you might want to run it first, clyrrad :)
[01:49] <clyrrad> yea I have done all this :p
[01:49] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  try a ..........         sudo ln -s /usr/share/fonts/X11/ /usr/share/X11/fonts
[01:50] <t3hwiz0rd> wow
[01:50] <Dr_willis> that just worked for me. vncserver script now works..
[01:50] <flaccid> clyrrad: then when you run x11vnc from command line, you have problem?
[01:50] <clyrrad> Dr_willlis I just added that
[01:51] <Dr_willis> i now have vncserver (the vnc4server variant) working.. now to check on x11vnc :)
[01:51] <clyrrad> it still does not work for me
[01:51] <clyrrad> flaccid: checking
[01:51] <flaccid> Dr_willis: what package is that vncserver from?
[01:51] <clyrrad> its showing 1 2 3 4...
[01:52] <clyrrad> and the x11vnc is still not running
[01:52] <clyrrad> i checked with ps aux |grep vnc
[01:52] <flaccid> did it exit after that?
[01:52] <Dr_willis> vnc4server
[01:52] <clyrrad> yes im back to cml now
[01:52] <Dr_willis> x11vnc seems really screwed.. i set a password for it as it asks.. it still aint seeing it.. its also ignoreing the command line arguments
[01:52] <flaccid> why does it exit... there is your problem
[01:53] <flaccid> Dr, i use -rfbauth /root/.vncpasswd to specify the password file
[01:53] <clyrrad> it does not seem to exit with an error
[01:53] <flaccid> i aint had a problem with x11vnc to be honest
[01:53] <clyrrad> are you on Edgy?
[01:53] <flaccid> yep im on edgy
[01:53] <clyrrad> hrmm.....
[01:54] <clyrrad> this is drivng me nuts LOL
[01:54] <clyrrad> so you can start a remote x session on :1 ??
[01:55] <clyrrad> *** x11vnc was unable to open the X DISPLAY: ":0", it cannot continue.
[01:55] <clyrrad> *** There may be "Xlib:" error messages above with details about the failure.
[01:55] <flaccid> so you do have an errror...
[01:55] <flaccid> what command are you using
[01:55] <Dr_willis> heh i got x11vnc -display 0    to work..
[01:55] <clyrrad> it appears so
[01:55] <clyrrad> x11vnc
[01:55] <sorush20> !guten
[01:55] <flaccid> i just use it on display 0 with: /usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -shared -rfbauth /root/.vncpasswd -rfbport 5900 -bg -o /var/log/x11vnc
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guten - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <sorush20> !gutenprint
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gutenprint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <clyrrad> flaccid - I cant get it to start at all
[01:56] <flaccid> have you googled the errors and worked on that
[01:57] <clyrrad> I have been on google for about 6 hours today trying to trouble shoot this
[01:57] <clyrrad> i came here as a last resort
[01:57] <flaccid> well if its any consolation. the x display errors about not being able to connect to the x server appear to be common in edgy
[01:58] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  it seems to be workign for me now that i made that link..   i shared the desktop..  i was on. and connected to it with a vncclient program.
[01:58] <flaccid> clyrrad: patebin the whole output of x11vnc
[01:58] <clyrrad> that is becase you are logged into the desktop
[01:58] <clyrrad> log out and try and start a remote desktop
[01:58] <E[m] ess> hi, when doing "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal" as per teh guide, i got an error that it couldnt be done due to unmet dependencies, which followed onto saying that xorg wont be installed because it is missing packages
[01:58] <clyrrad> flaccid okay
[01:58] <Dr_willis> Yes.. x11vnc shares the currently running desktop - from what i am reading in the man pages/docs.
[01:59] <flaccid> E[m] ess: that is a bug
[01:59] <E[m] ess> flaccid: is there a way to fix it? i need xorg 7.1
[01:59] <flaccid> E[m] ess: google will find it
[01:59] <Raven301> ! extracodec
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about extracodec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <Raven301> ! extra
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about extra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <flaccid> E[m] ess: i honestly can't remember how i got round it, but my situation was a little bit different to everyone else
[02:00] <clyrrad> ok here it is: http://pastebin.ca/228359
[02:01] <E[m] ess> ok, konqueror isnt working either, im getting
[02:01] <E[m] ess> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[02:01] <E[m] ess>  klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.
[02:01] <clyrrad> Dr_willis - I want it to start a new desktop
[02:01] <E[m] ess> sorry for the flood there
[02:01] <clyrrad> on :1 like how it did on Dapper
[02:01] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  from what i am reading in the x11vnc docs.. it dont do that..
[02:01] <clyrrad> it does
[02:01] <clyrrad> with some help
[02:01] <clyrrad> with XDMCP
[02:02] <RawSewageLT> what app would I use to scan folders for duplicate files
[02:02] <Dr_willis> clyrrad, if you say so.. ive only had the normal vnc4server set up where it would auto-spawn me a new kdm session whenever i vnced into a box.
[02:02] <clyrrad> the problem with that is....
[02:02] <Dr_willis> i dident want people looking at what i was doing.. so i liked the virtual sessions way of doing it.
[02:02] <clyrrad> lets say your in a remote session - and you need to reboot the PC
[02:03] <flaccid> clyrrad: if you want to do that, use vncserver (Xvnc). x11vnc is really for display 0
[02:03] <clyrrad> you cant reconnect with out manually being infront of the PC to login and start the session
[02:03] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  actually you just ssh in, and run vncserver.
[02:03] <navaburo> ?When in insert the kubuntu cd and reboot, it hangs at the loading screen
[02:03] <navaburo> What do i dod?
[02:03] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  Or like i did have inetd or xinetd auto start the vncserver as needed.
[02:03] <clyrrad> flaccid: i used this sudo apt-get install vnc4server xinetd
[02:03] <flaccid> X11vnc is a vnc server and xserver in 1
[02:04] <flaccid> err
[02:04] <flaccid> i mean xvnc is a vnc server and xserver in 1
[02:04] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  im getting a headache :)
[02:04] <clyrrad> just not sure why the VNC server is not starting
[02:05] <navaburo> Anyone know the key to press to make the detailed startup information appear when kubuntu install cd boots?
[02:05] <navaburo> Mine hangs so i want to know what is freezing it
[02:05] <Dr_willis> vnc4server is not the same as x11vnc   , correct flaccid ? the 2 are similer tools but unrelated?
[02:06] <flaccid> the easiest way to get this going is install xtightvncviewer. run the command vncserver and then you are done
[02:06] <flaccid> Dr_willis: correct
[02:06] <flaccid> i belive in this case vnc4server and tightvncserver are pretty similar
[02:06] <clyrrad> flaccid: will that allow me to start remote x sessions?
[02:06] <catmince> Hi there, i was wondering if someone can help me? I'm trying to install Firefox but I have NO idea what to do (I only just installed Kubuntu and haven't used ANY form of Linux Before)
[02:06] <kkathman> which repo package is firefox2 ??
[02:06] <flaccid> clyrrad: vnc != remote X
[02:06] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  heh -- ive found tightvncserver had issues with the font paths.. or course so does vnc4server now. :)
[02:06] <kkathman> is it just firefox ??
[02:07] <clyrrad> flaccid: yea but its what I am trying to accomplish
[02:07] <flaccid> remote x is remote x, vnc is vnc they are tottally differnt
[02:07] <catmince> Yes.
[02:07] <clyrrad> kkathman sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[02:07] <T3hWiz0rd> !paste
[02:07] <flaccid> clyrrad: what you are trying to accomplish has nothing to do with vnc. but i have a feeling you want xvnc on display 1...
[02:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:07] <T3hWiz0rd> !paste
[02:07] <clyrrad> flaccid the remote x part is the problem
[02:08] <kkathman> clyrrad:  but that says its a "transistion"
[02:08] <flaccid> clyrrad: no the problem is that remote X != vnc!!!!
[02:08] <flaccid> for example i type vnserver and i get New 'X' desktop is lister:1
[02:08] <kkathman> mozilla-firefox - Transition package for firefox rename
[02:08] <clyrrad> ok before I had the service runnign in the backgroud and I connected with VNC on my windoze machine
[02:09] <clyrrad> and was able to start a new kde session on display :1
[02:09] <flaccid> clyrrad: ok, do not use remote X in anything you say. because you are talking vnc...
[02:10] <Cyron> catmince:  sudo aptitude install firefox will do it
[02:10] <clyrrad> ok - so what can I do to fix this - I just want to do how i had on Dapper
[02:10] <ErikTheRed> anyone here familiar with nvidia tv-out?
[02:10] <Dr_willis> ErikTheRed,  ive fought with it befor. :)
[02:10] <Dr_willis> ErikTheRed,  used the twinview stuff and cloned my desktop to it.
[02:11] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install tightvncserver and then run vncserver
[02:11] <clyrrad> ok so it stais desktop is :1
[02:11] <Dr_willis> ErikTheRed,  then i learned to lookat/use -->  nvidia-xconfig  -A
[02:11] <clyrrad> so that ran
[02:11] <clyrrad> now how do I connect to it from windoze?
[02:11] <Dr_willis> vncviweer ip:1
[02:12] <flaccid> clyrrad: ipaddress:1'
[02:12] <clyrrad> yea thats not working
[02:12] <clyrrad> that has been my problem all along
[02:12] <flaccid> try ipaddress:5901
[02:12] <clyrrad> ok
[02:12] <flaccid> the question is why, clyrrad
[02:12] <flaccid> its not the problem all along coz x11vnc wasn't going for you etc...
[02:12] <catmince> Cyron: Okay, I tried that it says "No Packages will be updated, installed or removed"
[02:12] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  earlier i noticed the vnc4server was not getting the font path correctly..  I fixed it with that ln command i gave way earlier.
[02:12] <clyrrad> sais failed to connect to server
[02:12] <Dr_willis> i used a -->  sudo ln -s /usr/share/fonts/X11/ /usr/share/X11/fonts
[02:13] <clyrrad> I am not able to connect to :1
[02:13] <flaccid> Dr_willis: that is common with vnc4server and tightvnc
[02:13] <flaccid> clyrrad: we know that already
[02:13] <clyrrad> are you able to?
[02:14] <clyrrad> from a windoze machine?
[02:14] <flaccid> pastebin the output of sudo netstat -tap | grep -i vnc
[02:14] <clyrrad> no output
[02:14] <flaccid> yes i can from windows
[02:14] <flaccid> its not listening
[02:14] <clyrrad> nope
[02:15] <flaccid> how about ps aux | grep vnc
[02:15] <clyrrad> nothing
[02:15] <yokobr> hi
[02:15] <yokobr> how do i mount my iso file??
[02:15] <Dr_willis> !loop
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <Dr_willis> !iso
[02:15] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[02:15] <flaccid> clyrrad: they are not staying in memory obviously. i have no idea how to troubleshoot it
[02:15] <Dr_willis> yokobr,  good enogh for ya? :)
[02:16] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  the vncserver has logs. :)
[02:16] <clyrrad> flaccid - ok thanks anyway
[02:16] <E[m] ess> !xorg
[02:16] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:16] <clyrrad> Dr_willis which log file are you looking at?
[02:16] <flaccid> you can always check logs yes
[02:16] <Dr_willis> .vnc/whatever.log
[02:16] <flaccid> usually go into ~/.vnc/
[02:16] <Dr_willis> be sure to remove the old logs befor reruning vncserver again
[02:17] <clyrrad> ok let me see what it shows
[02:17] <clyrrad> Fatal server error:
[02:17] <clyrrad> could not open default font 'fixed'
[02:17] <clyrrad> xrdb: Connection refused
[02:17] <clyrrad> xrdb: Can't open display 'pcnatalia:1'
[02:18] <clyrrad> brings me back to the font error
[02:19] <momo> hi
[02:20] <Dr_willis> so we are back to kicking the vncserver in the head and making it use the right font paths. :)
[02:20] <clyrrad> yep looks that way
[02:20] <clyrrad> this is what been driving me nuts all day
[02:20] <Dr_willis> or setting links so it is using the  correct font paths.
[02:20] <Dr_willis> you did use that 'ln' command i gave earlier?
[02:21] <Dr_willis> >  sudo ln -s /usr/share/fonts/X11/ /usr/share/X11/fonts
[02:21] <clyrrad> i ran that before
[02:22] <clyrrad> that link already exists
[02:22] <BluesKaj> Can anyone tell me why my CPU runs at half speed in Edgy ?
[02:23] <unix_infidel> it quantitatively measeures at half speed?
[02:23] <E[m] ess> still getting this error when i try to update my kubuntu-desktop for edgy: kubuntu-desktop: Depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed
[02:23] <E[m] ess> E: Broken packages
[02:23] <flaccid> clyrrad: Couldn't start Xtightvnc; trying default font path. Please set correct fontPath in the vncserver script.
[02:24] <Ash-Fox> What port did cups listen on again for http connections?
[02:24] <flaccid> E[m] ess: did you google yet.
[02:24] <flaccid> ash 631
[02:24] <clyrrad> flaccid: sorry what did you mean?
[02:24] <Ash-Fox> flaccid, thanks =)
[02:24] <E[m] ess> i did, and only found that packages are conflicting
[02:24] <Dr_willis>     ls -l /usr/share/X11   shows -->           lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    21 2006-10-29 19:49 fonts -> /usr/share/fonts/X11/
[02:24] <E[m] ess> i had to use a new browser because konqueror is broken formt eh upgrade
[02:24] <Dr_willis> Ash-Fox,  that may be disabled - where you can see the stuff.. but not do a lot with it.
[02:25] <Ash-Fox> Dr_willis, seems to be working fine
[02:25] <clyrrad> I just rand this command: sudo fc-cache -fv
[02:25] <clyrrad> and updated a bunch of stuff
[02:25] <clyrrad> got rid of some errors
[02:25] <clyrrad> I have only 1 error left now
[02:25] <clyrrad> Fatal server error:
[02:25] <clyrrad> could not open default font 'fixed'
[02:25] <clyrrad> ~
[02:26] <BluesKaj> unix_infidel, k-info center list my cpu at 1000mhz ...when it should be 2000 mhz
[02:26] <oeb> the story:
[02:26] <oeb> install Kubuntu 6.06 lts
[02:26] <oeb> lucent modem works
[02:26] <oeb> shutdown
[02:26] <oeb> push in ethernet card
[02:26] <oeb> fire up laptop at LILAX linux lug
[02:26] <oeb>  use apt-get to update
[02:26] <oeb>  and install programs ie mozilla-firefox, xchat, etc.
[02:27] <Dr_willis> Ash-Fox,  see if the changes actually take effect.. it used to be sort of disabled. I hope it got put back to normal.
[02:27] <oeb> all install and work correctly
[02:27] <oeb> shutdown
[02:27] <oeb> try to use modem at home no connection, no modem no modules
[02:27] <oeb>  FORMAT REINSTALL
[02:27] <oeb> lucent modem again works
[02:27] <oeb>  shutdown
[02:27] <oeb> push in wifi card
[02:27] <oeb> fire up at library
[02:27] <oeb> wifi card works
[02:27] <oeb>  use adept to update
[02:27] <oeb>  and install ie mozilla-firefox, xchat, etc.
[02:27] <oeb>  all install and work correctly
[02:27] <oeb> shutdown
[02:27] <Jucato> !enter | oeb
[02:27] <ubotu> oeb: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:27] <oeb>  try to use modem at home no connection, no modem no modules
[02:27] <oeb> after sudo modprobe lt_serial or lt_modem
[02:27] <oeb> get module lt_modem or lt_serial not found
[02:27] <oeb>
[02:27] <oeb> lt_modem and lt_serial are in
[02:27] <oeb> /lib/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.15-23-386
[02:27] <oeb> uname shows <IP_ADDRESS>-386
[02:27] <oeb> can anybody help with this problem?
[02:27] <clyrrad> nice Flood
[02:27] <flaccid> oeb: please leave the channel
[02:28] <unix_infidel> BluesKaj: that's the powernowd daemon.
[02:28] <BluesKaj> hey oeb, ever heard of pastebin?
[02:28] <flaccid> E[m] ess: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=ubuntu+edgy+upgrade+dependencies+xorg&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[02:28] <BluesKaj> unix_infidel, what does that mean ?
[02:28] <E[m] ess> flaccid: aparently its caused by the beerorkid repo, thanks for making me repeatedly google till i found that, got a workaround now :)
[02:28] <clyrrad> oeb: flooding not a good way to get help
[02:28] <flaccid> E[m] ess: yes much on google. people with different situations etc.
[02:29] <seishinbyou> Gah, widescreen resolutions seemed like such a nice idea at the time.  I wish it could display the more standard res's's
[02:29] <unix_infidel> BluesKaj: it means taht when you dont need your CPU to be at 2ghz it wont be, as it'll save battery and lower heat.
[02:29] <unix_infidel> when you need it to be faster, your computer will recognize that and make itself faster.
[02:29] <Dr_willis> 'faster, stronger, better then it was befor....'
[02:29] <BluesKaj> cool, thx unix_infidel ...good to know :)
[02:30] <oeb> sorry im quite new at this how do I enter in xchat without the enter key
[02:30] <clyrrad> Dr_willis: did you find that 'fixed" font on your system?
[02:30] <Ash-Fox> Dr_willis, the only problem with it, is that it requires you set a root password to add a printer (asks for a login at the end, whereby only root is accepted)
[02:30] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  yes.. its in that one dir i had the link going to
[02:31] <Dr_willis>  i used  'locate fixed | grep font' to find it
[02:31] <clyrrad> I dont have it
[02:31] <clyrrad> hrm....
[02:31] <clyrrad> can you check
[02:31] <clyrrad> is it a symlink or a file?
[02:33] <E[m] ess> getting errors with acpid and acpid-support still
[02:33] <mz_masterzaxxon> question: would it be stupid of me to install xinetd on my dapper system just to start swat or is there a better, more "ubuntu" way?
[02:34] <clyrrad> Dr_willis you still here?
[02:35] <Dr_willis>   /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc
[02:35] <felixjet> off topic, anyone know barry white commertial songs? im looking for one that everybody listened but dunno the name
[02:35] <Dr_willis> is whgere the fonts are at.. they are defined in the fonts.alias file
[02:35] <clyrrad> is that a file or a link?
[02:35] <Dr_willis> there is no 'fixed' font file persay - it seems..
[02:36] <clyrrad> could not open default font 'fixed'
[02:36] <Dr_willis> fixed        -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1
[02:36] <Dr_willis> the fixed font is defined in a fonts.alias
[02:36] <clyrrad> ok where did you see that?
[02:36] <Dr_willis> vi /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/fonts.alias
[02:37] <clyrrad> yea i have that line too
[02:37] <oeb> can anyone help with the LT_Modem on the laptop , I didn't realize cutting and pasting would cause that mess
[02:37] <clyrrad> wow this is really frustrating :p
[02:39] <E[m] ess> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Pc49hJ50.html <--here, no idea whats wrong
[02:39] <E[m] ess> anyone got a clue?
[02:40] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  i would double check the paths.. then if all else fails.. create a new 'vncserver' script (copy the old one) and manually set the right font paths.. OR edit the /etc/vnc.conf  and put them in there manually
[02:40] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  i also copied the xorg.conf to /etc/X11/XF86Config
[02:40] <clyrrad> yea im checking the paths I dont know what to look for: I found this<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:40] <flaccid> E[m] ess: dont' know. personally i'd, remove acpi and then put it back after upgrade.
[02:41] <E[m] ess> what does it actually do?
[02:42] <Dr_willis>  the right paths are  /usr/share/fonts/X11/*
[02:42] <clyrrad> yea i have that in my xorg.conf
[02:44] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  from what i am reading the vncserver script wrongly looks for the font paths in  /etc/X11/XF86Config  not /etc/X11/xorg.conf  so you may want to either copy that file over to the old name.. or edit the vncserver script to look in the right place.
[02:44] <Shivs> Hi room, i need help installing nvidia drivers in kubuntu
[02:44] <Hawkwind> !nvidia | Shivs
[02:44] <ubotu> Shivs: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:44] <clyrrad> so did you just create that directory?
[02:44] <clyrrad> .. /etc/X11/XF86Config
[02:45] <clyrrad> or idd you just copy xorg.conf and name it as XF86Config?
[02:46] <Dr_willis> i copied xorg.conf to XF86Config, and made that link
[02:46] <seishinbyou> Question : How do you set the actual desktop size larger than what you can display (read: scrollable)?
[02:46] <Dr_willis> just the copy did not seem to work..
[02:46] <Dr_willis> so i then made the link and it worked.
[02:46] <clyrrad> which link?
[02:46] <Shivs> The nvidia installer says dat i need a compiler or sumting 2 dat effect
[02:46] <clyrrad> the one we alrady made?
[02:46] <Dr_willis> clyrrad,  that font link that i posted 10 times now. :P
[02:46] <clyrrad> to the fonts folders?
[02:46] <Dr_willis> tripple check it. heh
[02:46] <Dr_willis> be sure ya dident get it backwards
[02:46] <clyrrad> just checking :)
[02:46] <Dr_willis> i ALWAYS get them backwards
[02:47] <Dr_willis> and dont ask me why the fonts dirs keep getting moved around. :)
[02:48] <Dr_willis> ls -l /usr/share/X11       ---------- shows me ----->          lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    21 2006-10-29 19:49 fonts -> /usr/share/fonts/X11/
[02:48] <Dr_willis> showing that fonts dir is a link to  /usr/share/fonts/X11/
[02:48] <Dr_willis> which seems odd. now that i look at it.,
[02:49] <clyrrad> yea to me too
[02:49] <Dr_willis> /usr/share/X11/fonts is a link to  /usr/share/fonts/X11/
[02:49] <Dr_willis> but its working.. lol..
[02:49] <Dr_willis> i got a headache now
[02:50] <Shivs> Maybe the font folder is different in sum distro's
[02:50] <clyrrad> for me /usr/share/X11/fonts is a folder
[02:50] <clyrrad> how about for you?
[02:50] <clyrrad> then inside there i have a link like this X11 -> /usr/share/fonts/X11/
[02:51] <Dr_willis> /usr/share/fonts/X11     - is a link to itself...
[02:51] <Dr_willis> wtf is that all about
[02:51] <Dr_willis> cd /usr/share/fonts/X11/X11/X11/X11$
[02:51] <Dr_willis> cd /usr/share/fonts/X11/X11/X11/X11
[02:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:51] <T3hWiz0rd> anyone know why my system now freezes on kde boot?
[02:51] <T3hWiz0rd> its stuc kon instalizing services
[02:51] <clyrrad> this on your system you mean?
[02:52] <Erich-K> Hello
[02:52] <T3hWiz0rd> it will not bouhg
[02:52] <T3hWiz0rd> wtf
[02:52] <Shivs> Linux needs 2 iron out alot of those stuff so end users dnt have much configuration 2 do
[02:52] <Erich-K> Is there a guide to show me how to change the grub splash image?
[02:52] <Dr_willis> Shivs,  linux isent really involoved in it.. its a X11 thing. :P
[02:53] <Dr_willis> it may be the 'fsb' has decided where they should be.. and thats where they are now going to.
[02:53] <Dr_willis> err LSB i mean
[02:53] <Dr_willis> not sure.. but dapper and edgy do have fonts in differnt places.
[02:53] <clyrrad> so im not sure how to get this owrking
[02:53] <Shivs> I mean the os as a whole.
[02:53] <clyrrad> I have done what you did
[02:53] <clyrrad> still not working
[02:54] <flaccid> clyrrad: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-267980.html
[02:54] <flaccid> like i said before set the font path in vnc.conf :)
[02:55] <Shivs> How do i install offline content on kubuntu?
[02:55] <clyrrad> flaccid: i dont have a vnc.conf file
[02:55] <flaccid> you don't have /etc/vnc.conf?
[02:56] <Erich-K> How do I change the grub splash image?
[02:56] <Shivs> Can grub do dat? I thawt lilo used images.
[02:57] <flaccid> yes grub can do that
[02:57] <clyrrad> flaccid: correct I dont have that
[02:57] <Shivs> Wow-u learn stuff everyday wit linux
[02:57] <flaccid> i forget the command to see what package vnc.conf came from
[02:58] <flaccid> clyrrad: do you have vnc-common installed?
[02:58] <clyrrad> nope
[02:58] <clyrrad> i do now :)
[02:59] <seishinbyou> Just checking, but "tune2fs -c 0 (hard disk)" will turn off the check, right?
[02:59] <clyrrad> there we go now i have it /etc/vnc.conf
[02:59] <flaccid> i'm not sure if they are related
[02:59] <Dr_willis>    /usr/share/X11/fonts   vs   /usr/share/fonts
[03:00] <Shivs> Is it true dat kubuntu cant play dvds/mp3 or use java appz?
[03:00] <postangcslv> Shivs: not at all
[03:01] <Dr_willis> Shivs,  i use java and play dvd and play mp3's
[03:01] <Shivs> Then y wudnt it work 4 me?
[03:01] <Dr_willis> Shivs,  i would guess you dudent install the extra packages needed
[03:01] <gaurav> i did a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, now i get a error message 'Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your installation.', what could be the problem?
[03:01] <Dr_willis> !java
[03:01] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:01] <Dr_willis> for a start.
[03:01] <flaccid> Shivs: not installed by default as they are not free
[03:01] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[03:01] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:02] <Dr_willis> !mp3
[03:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:02] <postangcslv> Shivs: look at automatix2 for dvd and video codec stuff
[03:02] <Zoohouse> Why does ubuntu force check my hard drive every 30th mount??
[03:02] <Dr_willis> also check the Kubuntu homepage and its FAQ.
[03:02] <Dr_willis> Zoohouse,  to verify its ok.
[03:02] <Dr_willis> Zoohouse,  thats changeable  with the tune2fs command
[03:03] <Zoohouse> Dr_willis: thanks :)
[03:03] <Dr_willis> when you have month+ of uptimes... 30 mounts can be a LONG time.
[03:03] <clyrrad> flaccid: ok paths set still no change something else must be missing....
[03:03] <Shivs> Oh i have 2 install extra stuff. Nt cool. -i dnt have a net connection.  Wats dat? Im a newbie mind me.
[03:05] <postangcslv> dpkg is the debian equivalent of rpm - type "man dpkg"
[03:06] <inteliwasp> i installed edgy but i am having quite a few problems namely to start with, wireless access... how can i manually install a deb file?
[03:06] <LjL> !automatix | postangcslv, Shivs
[03:06] <ubotu> postangcslv, Shivs: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[03:06] <Shivs> I thawt dat was *.Deb files
[03:06] <Jucato> LjL: looks like the factoid has been changed :)
[03:06] <postangcslv> bs
[03:06] <LjL> Jucato: oh really? i didn't notice
[03:07] <Jucato> Shivs: rpm is both the package and the command to install the package. .deb is the package, dpkg is the command to install it
[03:07] <bobbyyu> What's a good source to get vlc?
[03:07] <bobbyyu> IJ'm using Dapper, by the way
[03:07] <Hawkwind> !info vlc dapper
[03:07] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[03:07] <Hawkwind> bobbyyu: It's in universe
[03:08] <Jucato> LjL: the original factoid had links to the Automatix channel and home page.
[03:08] <oeb> can anyone help for an lt_modem failing after an update?
[03:08] <bobbyyu> There are many universe sources out there
[03:08] <clyrrad> flaccid: are you still here?
[03:08] <bobbyyu> Can you give me an example?
[03:08] <Hawkwind> bobbyyu: No, there is one
[03:08] <Jucato> LjL: I guess after some upgrading problems caused by Automatix and EasyUbuntu, some devs decided to change the factoid. *shrugs*
[03:09] <Hawkwind> Universe is universe is universe
[03:09] <bobbyyu> What's the URL?
[03:09] <Hawkwind> !universe | bobbyyu
[03:09] <ubotu> bobbyyu: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:09] <Jucato> bobbyyu: the primary universe repo (not -updates, not -security, not -backports
[03:09] <flaccid> yes i am
[03:10] <bobbyyu> Do you mean http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ ?
[03:10] <clyrrad> in the vnc.conf file
[03:10] <Shivs> My kubuntu freezes after a while and im forced 2 reboot. I have a biostar 6100 mobo wit onboard gforce graphics.
[03:10] <clyrrad> antying else to set except the font path?
[03:10] <flaccid> dont know
[03:10] <clyrrad> hrm... ok
[03:10] <Jucato> bobbyyu: the one with plain "dapper" after that
[03:11] <inteliwasp> if i try to install a deb package, will it tell me dependency needs?
[03:11] <Jucato> bobbyyu: *not* dapper-upgrades, dapper-security, or dapper-backports. just plain dapper
[03:11] <Jucato> inteliwasp: most likely, yes.
[03:12] <E[m] ess> can anyone help? http://rafb.net/paste/results/Pc49hJ50.html i need to fix acpi
[03:15] <flaccid> i did help E[m] ess
[03:15] <flaccid> if you can't find something on google, E[m] ess then remove acpi until after the upgrade
[03:15] <E[m] ess> i tried that and it didnt work
[03:15] <flaccid> why
[03:15] <E[m] ess> because the package uses acpi for something
[03:16] <flaccid> what command did you use?
[03:17] <E[m] ess> sudo apt-get install -f
[03:17] <E[m] ess> fixing stuff as per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1645421
[03:17] <bobbyyu> Hawkwind: are you telling me to enable all the universe sources?
[03:17] <E[m] ess> same error, i know the cause and how to fix it, but acpi is stopping the fix from working
[03:19] <flaccid> E[m] ess: sudo apt-get install -f will not remove acpi
[03:20] <flaccid> sudo apt-get remove acpid acpi-support will
[03:20] <sovo> please help how to install Yahoo Messenger
[03:20] <E[m] ess> oh, i meant to fix the other error, but when looking at what happens, the otehr program relies on acpi being configured
[03:20] <bobbyyu> !vlc dapper
[03:20] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[03:20] <LjL> sovo: Kopete supports the Yahoo network
[03:21] <bobbyyu> Which one is component universe?
[03:21] <sovo> yes I know
[03:21] <flaccid> you are not listening, E[m] ess?
[03:21] <sovo> but i want to install YM
[03:22] <E[m] ess> i am, il try removing acpi...again
[03:22] <BlueEagle> sovo: That just begs the question: Why?
[03:22] <inteliwasp> i am having trouble installing the drivers of my wireless card, i have a bcm43xx card (linksys)
[03:23] <sovo> i want to try YM version linux
[03:23] <sovo> when i install they need xlibs
[03:23] <Jucato> bobbyyu: didn't we tell you already? "deb http://blablah.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe"
[03:24] <Jucato> bobbyyu: it's already in the sources.list by default, you only need to enable/uncomment it
[03:24] <bobbyyu> I did that.
[03:24] <Hawkwind> Then do a sudo apt-get update
[03:24] <Jucato> did you sudo apt-get update?
[03:24] <bobbyyu> There's no vlc in those sources
[03:24] <Hawkwind> Then sudo apt-get install vlc
[03:24] <Hawkwind> bobbyyu: Yes there is, or the bot wouldn't say there was
[03:24] <bobbyyu> sudo apt-get update?
[03:24] <LjL> sovo, packages that are in the standard Ubuntu repositories are supported -- third party, weirdly packaged stuff is not. if you don't have a valid reason besides "i want to try it out", i'd recommend against it. then suit yourself...
[03:25] <bobbyyu> Didn't you think I searched?
[03:25] <sovo> ok then
[03:25] <sovo> thanks LjL
[03:25] <bobbyyu> I put vlc on the input box and nothing appears
[03:25] <Jucato> bobbyyu: did you update first before you search? sudo apt-get update or Fetch Updates in Adept
[03:25] <bobbyyu> You have to do that?
[03:25] <Jucato> bobbyyu: you must Fetch Updates first before you search, everytime you change something in sources.list
[03:26] <Jucato> bobbyyu: yes
[03:31] <bobbyyu> Sorry, I didn't know that
[03:31] <bobbyyu> No hard feelings, I hope
[03:33] <Hawkwind> bobbyyu: Jucato doesn't have feelings at all :P
[03:34] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Did you feel that :P
[03:34] <Jucato> Hawkwind: was that supposed to hurt?
[03:34] <Jucato> nope. didn't feel a thing :P
[03:34] <flaccid> any luck E[m] ess
[03:34] <Hawkwind> Hah
[03:34] <E[m] ess> yeah, the update for kubuntu-desktop and xorg is working now
[03:35] <E[m] ess> when i removed it before i only took off the support bit without realising
[03:35] <flaccid> ok
[03:36] <esaym> ugh, i got the wmv plugins for firefox working. but what do i need to get the wmv working in mplayer?
[03:36] <esaym> hate to ask that question
[03:37] <inteliwasp> !wmv
[03:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:37] <inteliwasp> esaym:  did you get that?
[03:41] <esaym> yea pretty sure, one sec let me click on all those
[03:42] <johey> Omg, so much problems when upgrading dapper to edgy... But now I have finally managed to solve that.
[03:42] <johey> It broke my Xorg.
[03:42] <Dasnipa] [> i guess im lucky, it only broke my gtk
[03:42] <Dasnipa] [> and only for one app
[03:43] <esaym> ok getting wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[03:43] <esaym> we will seee
[03:43] <Ash-Fox> !skype
[03:43] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[03:44] <gary_> help, i've lost my kmix control icon in the  taskbar, i can start it back up fromthe kmenu, but it's not there when i reboot
[03:44] <Ash-Fox> Okay, good, those instructions are upto date.
[03:46] <Jucato> gary_: if you're KDE session is set to "Restore from previous session", just leave it running when you logout
[03:46] <seishinbyou> The upgrade to me from Dapper to Edgy was anything but smooth, but after the fsck check and "automatic fix" destroyed my data, I was able to do a clean install with no problems
[03:46] <Jucato> gary_: if it isn't set to Restore from previous session, you have to make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:46] <Alter-Ego> what is katapult ?
[03:46] <Jucato> seishinbyou: join the club! oh, and btw, ohayou! :)
[03:46] <xsacha> alt+space :) it launches programs Alter-Ego
[03:47] <Jucato> !katapult | Alter-Ego
[03:47] <ubotu> Alter-Ego: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[03:47] <PenguinistaKC> My upgrade was pretty painless.
[03:47] <gary_> oh, that makes sense thanks jucato!
[03:47] <thompa> im having a problem with sound stuttering
[03:47] <Jucato> PenguinistaKC: you are then one of the "chosen" few. feel proud :)
[03:48] <thompa> it wont stop, like system sound
[03:48] <dude_> hello guys
[03:48] <xsacha> my upgrade was painless, i just inserted kubuntu edgy cd and installed :)
[03:48] <Jucato> lucky you :)
[03:48] <seishinbyou> Jucato: , though it is just about noon anyways
[03:48] <esaym> ok, that worked for the wmv.  thanks!
[03:48] <thompa> there is something wrong with sound in 64 though
[03:48] <Jucato> seishinbyou: omg... I see boxes again!
[03:48] <xsacha> 64?
[03:48] <Jucato> hold on...
[03:48] <thompa> i tried a different sound card same thing
[03:48] <johey> Japan! I see Japan! :D
[03:49] <xsacha> amd64? sound working fine here
[03:49] <thompa> tap tap tap
[03:49] <xsacha> what format is it thompa?
[03:49] <thompa> xsacha: i tried changing the settings from auto
[03:49] <Jucato> seishinbyou: I need utf-8 to see the correct text right?
[03:49] <xsacha> is it all sound or just a particular format like mp3?
[03:50] <thompa> xsacha: its system sound, tapping away
[03:50] <thompa> it will only stop if i reboot
[03:50] <xsacha> thompa: are you using artsd?
[03:50] <thompa> f if i know
[03:50] <seishinbyou> Jucato: I believe so
[03:51] <seishinbyou> That is to say, I don't think I'm in JP Windows standard SJIS or anything
[03:51] <thompa> xsacha: restarting sound server loops
[03:51] <thompa> it just keeps running
[03:51] <xsacha> System Settings->Sound System .. untick Enable the sound system?
[03:51] <thompa> ok
[03:51] <Lam_> after installing nvidia-glx and restarting the computer using the "nvidia" driver, the bold-faced fonts are .. too bold?  is that supposed to happen?
[03:51] <Jucato> hm... better ask in Sho_ later...
[03:51] <xsacha> use 'play' or something like that
[03:52] <RawSewage> I keep forgetting this.  whats the command to make a  .sh file that opens a Konqueror profile
[03:52] <thompa> xsacha: it wont stop after apply
[03:52] <thompa> ive tried that
[03:52] <xsacha> thompa: enable sound system is off?
[03:53] <thompa> i wonder if its cause of ubuntu
[03:53] <thompa> doesnt it not use arts or something
[03:53] <thompa> xsacha: yes its off
[03:53] <xsacha> ok go to Notifications in System Settings
[03:54] <thompa> xsacha: its not feedback or anything either , case to know
[03:54] <xsacha> go to Player Settings down bottom left corner
[03:54] <xsacha> is it no audio output?
[03:54] <thompa> ok just a sec . thanks
[03:54] <thompa> i had to shut speakers off
[03:54] <thompa> going nuts
[03:55] <Jucato> seishinbyou: can you type something in japanese again?"
[03:56] <E[m] ess> is it bad when updating packages if frontend cannot connect to xserver and falls back to dialog?
[03:56] <thompa> xsacha: where is that, im in sound system
[03:56] <xsacha>
[03:56] <Jucato> :(
[03:56] <Jucato> still nothing.. rawr
[03:56] <xsacha> thompa: go to Notifications now, not sound system.. it'll be bottom right corner
[03:56] <thompa> ok i know, i did that too i think
[03:57] <thill2708> How can I go about implementing a two dimensional vector?
[03:57] <pacman> anyone know anything about Ktorrent?
[03:57] <xsacha> what's it on?
[03:57] <Jucato> xsacha: thanks. still boxes :(
[03:57] <thompa> kde system notifications
[03:57] <E[m] ess> i see n boxes, only hiragana
[03:57] <xsacha> Jucato: /charset utf-8 ?
[03:57] <E[m] ess> pacman: yes
[03:57] <thompa> im turning off all sounds
[03:57] <pacman> Emess: how the hell do I make it work right?
[03:58] <seishinbyou>
[03:58] <E[m] ess> whats not working?
[03:58] <xsacha> thompa: just go to player setting and check if sound is off thee
[03:58] <seishinbyou>
[03:58] <pacman> I'm trying to get it to download something and all it says is stalled
[03:58] <thompa> ok
[03:58] <E[m] ess> xsachas font looked cooler for me than seishinbyou's, i wonder why?
[03:58] <thompa> xsacha: it says use kde sound, cool
[03:58] <xsacha> ok try making it use no sound
[03:58] <E[m] ess> pacman: stalled means no seeds are sending you data is all, its the same as saying speed is 0.0Kb/s
[03:59] <thompa> nope weird
[03:59] <xsacha> no audio input it still makes that noise?
[03:59] <pacman> *nods*
[03:59] <pacman> how do I get it to start downloading
[03:59] <Jucato> xsacha, seishinbyou: thanks... still trying to figure this out... @_@
[03:59] <thompa> xsacha: just a sec, i need to reboot
[04:00] <thompa> i need to confirm something
[04:00] <E[m] ess> pacman: it is started, jsut no seeds are sending you anything, is it a popular torrent?
[04:00] <E[m] ess> because eitehr you have no seeds or your firewall is blocking the ports
[04:01] <pacman> I didn't think it was
[04:01] <pacman> it's starting to move now
[04:01] <seishinbyou> Too bad there isn't a Japanese-only channel around here :/
[04:01] <seishinbyou> Oh well, beggers can't be choosers
[04:01] <Jucato> :)
[04:01] <E[m] ess> just use romanji then?
[04:01] <pacman> only 8 days left...heh
[04:02] <xsacha> seishinbyou: try #japanese :)
[04:02] <Alter-Ego> heh heh, add/remove programs, set to gnome shows kde packages, set to kde shows gnome packages
[04:02] <seishinbyou> E[m] ess: Because romaji is awkward and can lead to confusion with kanji since different characters can be romanized the same way
[04:03] <E[m] ess> fair enough
[04:03] <E[m] ess> i take it your japanese then? where from?
[04:03] <seishinbyou> Kiba, Eastern part of Tokyo
[04:03] <xsacha> kiba-dock :D
[04:04] <E[m] ess> ah nice
[04:04] <Alter-Ego> bleh, add/remove programs just krashed out on me
[04:04] <Alter-Ego> no error, no warning, just closed
[04:04] <thompa> xsacha: i dnt think i have system sound now
[04:04] <xsacha> still makes annoying sound?
[04:04] <seishinbyou> Kansai-ben...
[04:04] <seishinbyou> and other oddities
[04:04] <Alter-Ego> E[m] ess: try #japanese or #nihongo
[04:05] <knock12> hello
[04:05] <E[m] ess> Alter-Ego: id guess the people in tehre are their for technical assistance rather than waiting for someone to recruit them for anime-subbing lol
[04:05] <thompa> xsacha: cool cd player is working
[04:05] <seishinbyou> Yes, though I'm sure there are other channels for that :)
[04:05] <E[m] ess> seishinbyou: overrated for sure, but when the show im watching is in it i understand nada
[04:05] <thompa> xsacha: whats up with that is is alsa?
[04:06] <xsacha> thompa: yeah the sound you disabled was only for system notifications (like when you minimise windows and so on)
[04:06] <E[m] ess> other channels? otehr networks maybe, like 95% of rizon
[04:06] <knock12> i have a problem with edgy eft - i can't play mp3's with amarok. I've already installed the xine-extracodes. MP3's work with XMMS, but Amarok doesn't play them?
[04:06] <Alter-Ego> so did mozilla foundation get thier trademark/logo ironed out ?
[04:06] <Alter-Ego> did iceweasel die ?
[04:06] <thompa> xsacha: so its not hardware related cause im going to switch back to the nvidia
[04:06] <Jucato> knock12: libxine-extracdoecs ?
[04:06] <seishinbyou> E[m] ess: Yes, the variety comedy shows and most popular comedians use Kansai ben, but I don't watch much TV, and never really get a chance to use it here
[04:06] <seishinbyou> Closest was my Nagano-ben
[04:07] <knock12> @Jucato: yes
[04:07] <xsacha> thompa: not sure, i think it's a combination software/hardware dont like eachother -- in particular the artsd, just avoid artsd i think :)
[04:07] <T3hWiz0rd> !ati
[04:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:07] <Alter-Ego> !w32
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:07] <E[m] ess> ah i watcha lot of anime, and they use kansai for wierd characters
[04:07] <Alter-Ego> !win32
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <thompa> xsacha: so far amd64 duo sata working flawlessly here
[04:08] <xsacha> #win32 ? #winapi for programming
[04:08] <knock12> Are the win32codecs needed to play mp3's with amarok?
[04:08] <xsacha> thompa: the sound? good :) but you dont have sounds for minimising windows and other notifications?
[04:09] <Alter-Ego> help.ubuntu.com is down ?
[04:09] <Jucato> knock12: check if Amarok is using xine as the engine
[04:09] <E[m] ess> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:09] <E[m] ess>  acpid
[04:09] <E[m] ess>  acpi-support
[04:09] <E[m] ess>  powermanagement-interface
[04:09] <E[m] ess>  kubuntu-desktop
[04:09] <E[m] ess> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:09] <BlueEagle> !paste
[04:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:09] <E[m] ess> sorry for teh flood, but thats really not cool
[04:10] <BlueEagle> e[m] ess: Is that all you get? dpkg returned an error code (1)? Did you google it?
[04:10] <E[m] ess> thats all, and google says its a standard code
[04:10] <knock12> @Jucato: Yes, it uses xine (it's the only available engine)
[04:10] <BlueEagle> e[m] ess: Seems like a segmentation fault :/
[04:11] <Jucato> knock12: hm... that's strange.. :(
[04:11] <seishinbyou> Wow, that's almost descriptive as a Safari error message: "There is an error in the configuration file"
[04:11] <xsacha> actually i'd prefer the error in config file than just "error code 1" :)
[04:15] <seishinbyou> I would too, but only because I can't stand looking at the OSX interface anyways (the pinstripes give me a headache)
[04:16] <T3hWiz0rd> seishinbyou: pinstripes are gone
[04:16] <T3hWiz0rd> seishinbyou: have been since 10.4.2
[04:18] <T3hWiz0rd> seishinbyou: it was replaced with "polished metal", which will replace aqua 100% by 10.5
[04:19] <seishinbyou> In Tiger, the menu backgrounds still have the faint white/light grey striped pattern for me as well as some window backgrounds
[04:19] <seishinbyou> or grey/darker grey
[04:19] <T3hWiz0rd> seishinbyou: *shrugs* everything is either neutral gray or polished metal for me
[04:19] <T3hWiz0rd> seishinbyou: and i've got a mac burning away my sperm count on my lap right now.
[04:20] <seishinbyou> Good heaters, those are
[04:20] <seishinbyou> The LaVie laptop at work gets stupid hot, though
[04:20] <seishinbyou> It frequently shuts itself down
[04:20] <T3hWiz0rd> ouch
[04:20] <seishinbyou> just burns up, and that is with all the fans blasting away
[04:20] <T3hWiz0rd> Asus laptops stay cool. I am gonna get a 600 dollar one and use it to make a mini server out of its parts lol
[04:20] <T3hWiz0rd> a demonstration linux server for work
[04:20] <T3hWiz0rd> gonna put it in a pandabox
[04:21] <T3hWiz0rd> or maybe i'll just be orthadox and leave it as a laptop and use that for the server demo
[04:22] <E[m] ess> BlueEagle: http://rafb.net/paste/results/WIcEcA70.html thats what happened
[04:22] <shadowhywind> anyone that has upgraded to edgy, and looked at fstab, does it look werid?
[04:23] <shadowhywind> can anyone help me set up my swap partition, which looks like it got messed up in the upgrade?
[04:23] <BlueEagle> e[m] ess http://bergen.mislykket.no/image.php?id=1357
[04:23] <Hawkwind> shadowhywind: It's the new UUID stuff in fstab
[04:23] <BlueEagle> e[m] ess: mever mind...
[04:23] <E[m] ess> oh, ok
[04:24] <shadowhywind> when i open up KDE sysstem guard, it says no swap space available
[04:24] <shadowhywind> what i think is my swap is, UUID=073254cd-fc2c-4c5a-82cb-f651cd5f9bba none swap sw 0 0
[04:25] <BlueEagle> e[m] ess: I really do not know what is causing that. Suspects do include bad downloads, broken file system or bad packages.
[04:25] <E[m] ess> ok, i might try and reinstall acpi tehn
[04:28] <shadowhywind> i just opened qtparted, and for my swap-partition, it comes up with unknow, if i reformate it as a linux-swap would that fix it?
[04:29] <shadowhywind> any thoughts?
[04:29] <Jucato> shadowhywind: a swap partition should always be linux-swap
[04:30] <shadowhywind> it was a linux-swap in dapper hehe
[04:30] <shadowhywind> some how edgy got confused with it
[04:30] <shadowhywind> if i reformate it, would edgy automatically see it and fix fstab?
[04:31] <Jucato> shadowhywind: btw, that's a normal fstab line for swap in Edgy
[04:31] <Jucato> I don't see anything wrong with the fstab line....
[04:31] <shadowhywind> i just got used to the old version
[04:31] <Jucato> UUID=dc22d891-ecc4-4c44-80ee-90d0c4e8b61d none            swap    sw              0       0
[04:31] <Jucato> that's mine
[04:32] <Jucato> Edgy uses a new UUID system in place of the old /dev stuff
[04:32] <shadowhywind> could my problem be, qtparted is saying /dev/sda7 *which should be linux-swap* but it is showing it as Type unknow and Used space N/A
[04:32] <Lam_> after installing nvidia-glx and restarting the computer using the "nvidia" driver, the bold-faced fonts are .. too bold?  is that supposed to happen?
[04:33] <Alter-Ego> Jucato: why did they move to a uuid system ?
[04:33] <Alter-Ego> what makes it better ?
[04:33] <Alter-Ego>  or worse ?
[04:33] <jontec> what is uuid?
[04:33] <shadowhywind> so should i reformat my swap to make qtparted happy?
[04:34] <shadowhywind> and see if that is my problem?
[04:34] <Jucato> shadowhywind: probably. no harm in reformatting swap I think
[04:34] <Jucato> Alter-Ego: to give way to something called PATA, I think. I'm not really familiar with it
[04:35] <Jucato> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LibAtaForAtaDisks
[04:36] <KooL4444> hey guys, anyone available to help? i messed up my kubuntu
[04:36] <jontec> how can I find what a symbolic link points to? is there like a terminal command?
[04:36] <jontec> be more specific, KooL4444
[04:37] <jontec> !ask
[04:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:37] <KooL4444> kk sorry itll take me a minute to formulate it, just makis sure its not all bots in here
[04:37] <flaccid> E[m] ess: doesn't look like you actually removed acpi
[04:38] <Jucato> jontec: ls -l <file>
[04:39] <E[m] ess> i did, and it came back :S
[04:39] <Jucato> jontec: or you can mouse-over the file in Konqi
[04:39] <Alter-Ego> PATA ?
[04:39] <KooL4444> i tried to install XGL and put it into this .Xsession file and restarted, well after my login screen after reboot it doesnt start up, just goes back to the login screen
[04:40] <Jucato> Alter-Ego: libata for ATA disks
[04:40] <KooL4444> how do i delete that .Xsession file so it doesnt try to use it in boot?
[04:40] <Jucato> Alter-Ego: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LibAtaForAtaDisks
[04:40] <jontec> jucato: gracias
[04:41] <Alter-Ego> i think my isp dns is down
[04:41] <Alter-Ego> i cannot get to any website
[04:41] <flaccid> E[m] ess: remove it again or you may not be able to get paste the issue
[04:41] <KooL4444> ping google.com
[04:41] <flaccid> E[m] ess: use public dns. <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:41] <T3hWiz0rd> <IP_ADDRESS> ftw
[04:41] <Alter-Ego> ping google.com
[04:41] <Alter-Ego> ping: unknown host google.com
[04:41] <KooL4444> mt
[04:41] <Jucato> Alter-Ego: yes most probably
[04:42] <E[m] ess> wait what? im lsot here
[04:42] <flaccid> T3hWiz0rd yep :)
[04:42] <flaccid> oops i meant to let Alter-Ego know of the dns, not E[m] ess
[04:43] <E[m] ess> oh o
[04:43] <flaccid> sorry
[04:43] <E[m] ess> i tried to remove acpi again but it keeps trying to cnfigure it and screws up
[04:43] <Alter-Ego> flaccid: your lost ?
[04:43] <flaccid> i'm not lost no
[04:43] <Alter-Ego> er, nm
[04:43] <Alter-Ego> what is public dns <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[04:44] <flaccid> it is a public dns server you can use
[04:44] <flaccid> you can use it when your isp dns goes down
[04:44] <KooL4444> can anyone help me with deleting the .Xsession file from my desktop through the safe mode prompt? i have a copy of what is in the file
[04:45] <shadowhywind> ok so the exteremly funny thing
[04:45] <shadowhywind> booted into windows to use partitionmagic, it had the swap drive as a linux swap drive, in ntfs
[04:46] <flaccid> yeah windows can sometimes allocate drive letter to linux partitions
[04:46] <flaccid> quite annoying
[04:46] <shadowhywind> but i haven't been in windows in about 2 weeks, hehe
[04:46] <E[m] ess> flaccid: http://rafb.net/paste/results/rM0umO94.html
[04:47] <shadowhywind> but, I still don't have a swap on linux yet
[04:48] <malbicho> hi all
[04:48] <shadowhywind> so fstab has a swap UUID, mtab has nothing about a swap
[04:48] <terdinator> What do "pros" use as movie player within firefox? Mplayer-Plugin?
[04:48] <Kiongku> hey guys.. u know where is the file that control the resolution at login?
[04:48] <Jucato> Kiongku: xorg.conf
[04:49] <shadowhywind> so is there supposed to be a record in mtab?
[04:49] <malbicho> anyone speak spanish?
[04:49] <Kiongku> Jucato: i cant seem to see the line
[04:49] <Jucato> !es | malbicho
[04:49] <ubotu> malbicho: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:49] <Jucato> Kiongku: try looking for the "virtual" line
[04:49] <malbicho> thanks
[04:50] <Kiongku> no birtual
[04:50] <Kiongku> *virtual
[04:50] <Jucato> hm... strange...
[04:50] <shadowhywind> so any ideas?
[04:50] <flaccid> E[m] ess: sudo dpkg -P acpi acpi-support
[04:51] <flaccid> oops
[04:51] <KooL4444> i ran a command "chmod +x /.Xsession" how do i turn that chmod off?
[04:51] <flaccid> sorry you put acpi and not acpid
[04:51] <flaccid> E[m] ess: sudo dpkg -P acpid acpi-support
[04:51] <malbicho> i want to install the correct kernel, i have an AMD Athlon, do i have to install k7?
[04:51] <E[m] ess> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove acpi which isn't installed.
[04:51] <flaccid> yeah acpi is not a package but acpid is
[04:51] <Kiongku> Jucato: should i run this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"?
[04:51] <Jucato> malbicho: are you on Dapper or on Edgy?
[04:51] <Jucato> Kiongku: yeah you could
[04:52] <malbicho> Jucato: Edgy
[04:52] <flaccid> accidently closed irc heh
[04:52] <Jucato> malbicho: use the -generic kernel. it's optimized for all processors
[04:52] <malbicho> oh ok
[04:52] <shadowhywind> is there a way to repop fstab?
[04:53] <malbicho> i was looking that in adept manager says Obsoleted by generic in the k7
[04:53] <malbicho> thanks Jucato
[04:53] <Jucato> malbicho: sure thing :)
[04:53] <flaccid> work now E[m] ess?
[04:53] <E[m] ess> dpkg - warning: while removing acpi-support, directory `/var/lib/acpi-support' not empty so not removed
[04:53] <E[m] ess> other than that error yes
[04:54] <flaccid> ok try continuing the upgrade
[04:55] <shadowhywind> any ideas?
[04:55] <E[m] ess> the upgrade is for kubuntu-desktop and it installs acpi...
[04:55] <KooL4444> how do i search for a file from a prompt?
[04:55] <E[m] ess> The following extra packages will be installed:
[04:55] <E[m] ess>   acpi acpi-support acpid powermanagement-interface
[04:56] <terdinator> How do I get any video to play within a web browser?
[04:57] <E[m] ess> mplayer or vlc plugin
[04:57] <flaccid> E[m] ess: thats ok. they should be the correct packages for edgy..
[04:57] <flaccid> E[m] ess: is it proceeding?
[04:58] <E[m] ess> still problems
[04:58] <flaccid> what now
[04:59] <Genix> whenever i run kubuntu now for some reason it goes past the kubuntu loading screen and then it just shows me like a text prompt but the _ doesn't blink and it just stays like that
[04:59] <E[m] ess> flaccid: http://rafb.net/paste/results/n3FKyt11.html
[05:00] <E[m] ess> seems liek it cant configur, iv found some info on this in google so reading it now
[05:00] <jontec> if someone says something is not in your path what do they mean?
[05:00] <shadowhywind> i decided to try to do swapon -a, and i got swapon: cannot stat /dev/disk/by-uuid/073254cd-fc2c-4c5a-82cb-f651cd5f9bba: No such file or directory
[05:01] <flaccid> E[m] ess: looks like it is having a problem starting acpi - don't know why. i would install the packages from the meta package kubuntu-desktop manually, then go back to acpi.
[05:01] <flaccid> if you have heldback packages i would install those first as well
[05:01] <E[m] ess> iv found a posible fix, doing it now
[05:01] <flaccid> just in case its related
[05:02] <flaccid> yeah this is pretty typical of an edgy upgrade E[m] ess. so much issues like this that lots of people are having to go trhough
[05:02] <flaccid> i gtg out for a bit
[05:02] <flaccid> bb
[05:02] <flaccid> bbl
[05:03] <E[m] ess> ok, later yo~
[05:03] <Genix> anyone have any ideas for me?
[05:03] <E[m] ess> it looks to me that it cant configure acpid tho
[05:06] <Kiongku> duh 5 mins witha 60hz rez makes my eyes hurt..
[05:06] <RawSewageLT> !wmv
[05:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:06] <E[m] ess> !acpid edgy
[05:06] <ubotu> acpid: Utilities for using ACPI power management. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.4-5ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 27 kB, installed size 176 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[05:08] <E[m] ess> is there a way to undo changes and revert back to dapper while keping xorg 7.1.1?
[05:09] <sheft> how do i fix the sync in youtube videos and google videos??? i downloaded: FP9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz which has libflashplayer.so in it, but i dont understand where to put it?
[05:10] <unix_infidel> isnt there a 3rd party deb around yet?
[05:10] <Kiongku> !flash9 > shef
[05:11] <Kiongku> !flash9 > sheft
[05:18] <Genix> whenever i run kubuntu now for some reason it goes past the kubuntu loading screen and then it just shows me like a text prompt but the _ doesn't blink and it just stays like that
[05:18] <KooL4444> how do i install XGL and compiz? im running Edgy and an ATi video card
[05:19] <E[m] ess> KooL4444: you sure you want xgl and compiz? if you have edgy you can use aiglx and beryl
[05:19] <E[m] ess> xgl replaces xorg, while aiglx is aprt of it
[05:19] <E[m] ess> so tis faster
[05:19] <E[m] ess> and beryl is the community fork of compiz, its nicer'
[05:20] <KooL4444> i just want MacOSX type window handling and the cube efect with the desktops
[05:20] <KooL4444> does beryl have the cube effect and window handling?
[05:20] <E[m] ess> yes
[05:20] <xsacha> beryl is forl of compiz (improved)
[05:21] <xsacha> fork*
[05:21] <xsacha> well improved eye candy :)
[05:21] <jontec> I need to... uhh... add graphviz to my path. It's installed with the graphviz package, how do I do it?
[05:21] <jontec> !graphviz
[05:21] <KooL4444> so i dont need xgl for baryl?
[05:21] <ubotu> graphviz: rich set of graph drawing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1353 kB, installed size 3764 kB
[05:21] <KooL4444> all i need is baryl?
[05:22] <E[m] ess> for beryl all you need is xorg 7.1 which you have with edgy, you trurn on aiglx and voila
[05:22] <E[m] ess> KooL4444: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX
[05:22] <KooL4444> do i install baryl first or turn on aiglx first?
[05:22] <KooL4444> thnc
[05:22] <E[m] ess> read that
[05:22] <KooL4444> ty
[05:23] <E[m] ess> anyone want to tell me how to configure acpid so kubuntu-desktop is fixed and i can finish my ugrade?
[05:23] <seishinbyou> There, VMWare is back up and running.  Now for the "fun" part of installing Visual Studio in the vmware'd XP
[05:24] <hanan> hallo
[05:25] <hanan> I'm getting a  module ABI major version mismatch on my x.org server. What should I do? (just upgraded dapper->edgy)
[05:25] <hanan> (to do with nv drver)
[05:26] <hanan> nevermind, switched to closed, official driver
[05:28] <huminsk> my firefox 2.0 crash when i open a webpage with flash. Anyone knows why?
[05:28] <KooL4444> wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[05:29] <KooL4444> do i type all that on one line?
[05:30] <E[m] ess> KooL4444: each line on the sie is a lin of text, so if its in one line then yes
[05:30] <rythan> Is there a reason that installing nvidia-settings removes nvidia-glx?
[05:31] <KooL4444> k
[05:31] <sheft> is there a guide to enable aiglx on kubuntu edgy?
[05:31] <sheft> !aiglx
[05:31] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[05:32] <E[m] ess> sheft: yes, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX
[05:32] <E[m] ess> you jsut opent eh xorg.conf and turn on aiglx at the bottom
[05:34] <sheft> E[m] ess: where's the xorg.conf file?
[05:34] <rythan> Hmm
[05:34] <rythan> Nobody knows?
[05:34] <E[m] ess> sheft: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:36] <shadowhywind> i got my swap partition working, and i can hibernate now, But i can not come back from hibernate. Because the swap partition does not load while it is booting up any ideas?
[05:36] <_goofy_> when mounting a hdd where do i specify the filesystem type
[05:36] <DekKeD> is it me or there haven't been any updates in Edgy's repos since 3 days before it was released?
[05:37] <Jucato> DekKeD: no updates
[05:37] <DekKeD> Jucato: ok, i thought my repos were broken or something :P
[05:37] <Jucato> :)
[05:37] <_goofy_> !mount
[05:37] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:42] <Kiongku> damn adept not starting
[05:42] <something> Kiongku: what is wrong
[05:42] <Kiongku> adept refuses to start up.. but apt-get in command works
[05:42] <E[m] ess> im trying to upgrade form dapper to edgy and acpid is killing all my dependencies so i cant continue with the update, acpid wont configure, http://rafb.net/paste/results/n3FKyt11.html is the error
[05:43] <E[m] ess> iv been working on this for 4 hours now :(
[05:43] <rythan> I'll ask again :)
[05:43] <rythan> Is there a reason that installing nvidia-settings removes nvidia-glx?
[05:44] <rythan> Or am I missing something?
[05:44] <Jucato> rythan: yes. because nvidia-settings is an older (I think obsolete) incompatible version. nvidia-glx has it's own
[05:44] <rythan> Ah ... thanks
[05:45] <Jucato> rythan: if you install nvidia-glx, you can still run nvidia-settings, afaik
[05:45] <Jucato> yep you can. just checked
[05:45] <rythan> No, it removes it
[05:45] <rythan> And vice versa
[05:45] <rythan> Hrm ...
[05:46] <Jucato> rythan: I already said that nvidia-glx has it's own.
[05:46] <rythan> Right
[05:46] <Jucato> has its own nvidia-settings program, which doesn't come in a separate package
[05:46] <E[m] ess> Jucato: any idea on my problem?
[05:46] <Jucato> it's built into nvidia-settings
[05:46] <Jucato> E[m] ess: sorry, no idea :(
[05:46] <kool4444_> i tried to install beryl, and this is the messege i get when i try to run it
[05:46] <rythan> Ah thanks ... I expoected a menu entry
[05:46] <rythan> er expected
[05:46] <kool4444_> kool4444@FIRE:~$ beryl
[05:46] <kool4444_> XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA
[05:46] <kool4444_> Nvidia Absent, assuming AIGLX
[05:46] <kool4444_> beryl: No composite extension
[05:47] <kool4444_> why wont it work?
[05:47] <joe_> Well, I've been on linux 3 days, still going thru windows withdrawals sometimes my hands shake?
[05:47] <soundmaster80> is there a program that will look up my albums on amazon and tag them automatically
[05:47] <soundmaster80> that will pass joe
[05:48] <E[m] ess> kool4444_: you havent turned on composite manager
[05:48] <E[m] ess> or if you have you didnt restart x
[05:48] <kool4444_> how do i turn it on?
[05:48] <terdinator> Is the KDE weather applet very experamental right now? Because no matter what station I put into the "selected stations", I always get "Uknown Station" for the location.
[05:48] <soundmaster80> use superkaramba and liquidweather
[05:48] <joe_> Are sure, I started thinking about going back to windows when I couldn't get an mp3 to play
[05:48] <soundmaster80> much better
[05:49] <soundmaster80> just hang with it joe
[05:49] <E[m] ess> kool4444_: its int eh x options,t hat pge i linked explains it
[05:49] <rythan> Yeah joe ... it takes a little convincing but it all comes together
[05:49] <kool4444_> k ill check it again
[05:49] <Jucato> !mp3 > joe_
[05:50] <soundmaster80> however, i will say that i would go back to windows when i gave up on linux
[05:50] <soundmaster80> and over time i've stayed longer and longer
[05:50] <E[m] ess> joe_: if you go to the ubuntu wiki,t he page called RestrictedFormats epxlains how to get mp3 working
[05:50] <soundmaster80> till now i'm happy :)
[05:50] <kool4444_> nothing on that page about composite
[05:50] <soundmaster80> kool444 what are you doing again?
[05:50] <joe_> I don't know if I can hold out.  I still can't print and havent a clue how to network to my laptop
[05:50] <soundmaster80> have you looked at www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:50] <terdinator> Joe and Soundmaster, Go ahead and give the program "Amarok" a try for your MP3 needs.
[05:51] <E[m] ess> kool4444_: pastebin your x config
[05:51] <E[m] ess> and il have a look
[05:51] <terdinator> It will grab MP3 codecs for your automatically and it will also tag your MP3's from Amazon.com
[05:51] <soundmaster80> amarok i like however it's not what i'm wanting for MP3 taggine
[05:51] <soundmaster80> tagging
[05:51] <terdinator> I see
[05:51] <Jucato> joe_: sent you the link for MP3 instructions.
[05:51] <kool4444_> what does pastebin mean? this is my first day on linux
[05:52] <soundmaster80> i used mediamonkey in windows and loved it
[05:52] <soundmaster80> but i haven't found a substitute in windows
[05:52] <Jucato> !pastebin | kool4444_
[05:52] <ubotu> kool4444_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:52] <joe_> amorock had errors when it tried to update mp3 codecs
[05:52] <terdinator> Has anybody played with the weather applet for KDE? It seems non functional.
[05:52] <soundmaster80> kool4444....check www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:52] <E[m] ess> first day on ubuntu and you're using beryl/aiglx? :O
[05:52] <soundmaster80> no, again i use the liquidweather widget
[05:52] <kool4444_> !pastebin | kool4444_
[05:52] <ubotu> kool4444_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:53] <joe_> I had one victory.  vanessae helped me install flah 9 plugin so I can get my fix of movies at metacafe
[05:53] <terdinator> is there a package for liquidweather?
[05:53] <Jucato> joe_: ok, you need to enable the multiverse compenonet of your repositories. once you've done that, all you need to do is install the package "libxine-extracodecs"
[05:53] <kool4444_> ahh ok, what should i paste inthere?
[05:53] <soundmaster80> yeah, you need to install superkaramba first
[05:53] <Jucato> terdinator: liquid weather is a Superkaramba theme. install superkaramba then download the theme
[05:53] <soundmaster80> yup
[05:54] <soundmaster80> apt-get install superkaramba
[05:54] <terdinator> Ok, is Superkaramba a theme manager?
[05:54] <rythan> I just finished doing just that - SuperKaramba :)
[05:54] <rythan> It is more of a "Widget" manager
[05:54] <Jucato> kool4444_: if you need to paste long lines of text, like error messages and stuff, you can use that service instead of pasting directly into the channel
[05:54] <soundmaster80> ok, then go to www.liquidweather.net
[05:54] <Jucato> terdinator: Superkaramba is a desktop applet program. the little applets that you run using superkaramba are called Superkaramba themes
[05:55] <Jucato> not the same with the general usage of the word "theme"
[05:55] <sistemas> Good morning to all
[05:55] <kool4444_> ok i pasted the error in there when i run the beryl command
[05:55] <sistemas> people
[05:55] <gameman73> sweet,  ill ask here since #ubuntu was a load of help,    need help with fglrx and X after an upgrade to edgy
[05:55] <sistemas> I want to install my Lexmark X1185
[05:55] <E[m] ess> kool4444_: your x config
[05:55] <Jucato> kool4444_: then you give the URL that comes out
[05:55] <sistemas> How do I do that?
[05:55] <kool4444_> so i just type "xconfig" and paste that?
[05:56] <E[m] ess> no, pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:56] <soundmaster80> kool4444....http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Eye_Candy
[05:56] <soundmaster80> have you been there...that usually works
[05:56] <noxxle> i accidently removed the volume and power applet icons from the taskbar and now i cannot figure out how to get them back. I can find the kmix, but the icon is different and when i click on it, it does not show the volume icon.
[05:57] <K`zan> Have I got something wrong or is kuickshow not available under ubuntu?
[05:57] <soundmaster80> i use that to install it and had no problems, lol doesn't mean you won't but they usually work :)
[05:57] <joe_> how can I tell if my usb ports are recognized by the os do I need drivers?
[05:57] <something> i am not wrong !
[05:57] <something> and you don't have me
[05:57] <gameman73> joe_: not typically,,,  90% of usb drivers are included with the kernel
[05:58] <gameman73> usb is something thats always "just worked" for me
[05:58] <kool4444_> ok http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29289/
[05:58] <something> i never worked for you
[05:58] <kool4444_> there it is
[05:58] <Cuboid> Can someone here tell me what I've done wrong with upgrading to 6,10? At first I changed the sources.list file, the word dapper replaced with edgy, I tried apt-get upgrade and it just said that there were no files needed at all. Tried with dapper and it installed 183 files. Now , I don't think that this is 6.10. Is there a way for me to find out and if it isn't, what did I do wrong?
[05:58] <Jucato> K`zan: kuickshow has been dropped from Ubuntu since Dapper, due to incompatibility
[05:59] <soundmaster80> comment out dri
[05:59] <gameman73> o_O   we have someone here named something.....   *shrug*
[05:59] <s> hello
[05:59] <Jucato> !upgrade | Cuboid
[05:59] <ubotu> Cuboid: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:59] <joe_> thanks jucato.  mp3 is working.  that was easy.   my hands arent shaking as much now
[05:59] <xsacha> something or some0ne?
[05:59] <K`zan> Jucato: arghhhhhhhhh, I use that a lot, guess I'll have to get the source and go through all that :-(.  Thanks.
[05:59] <kool4444_> oh wait there is more to paste
[05:59] <s> please i need some help with flash and Flock / Firefox
[05:59] <something> lol, i kept getting this pong from the speakers and i was like 'huh'
[05:59] <noxxle> i accidently removed the volume and power applet icons from the taskbar and now i cannot figure out how to get them back. I can find the kmix, but the icon is different and when i click on it, it does not show the volume icon.
[05:59] <Jucato> K`zan: I'll try asking the devs. you're not the first person (and probably not the last) looking for it
[05:59] <kool4444_> how do i select everything in the file?
[05:59] <Lam_> i installed nvidia-glx on my computer, enabled it, and restarted my kde.  now the bold fonts are too bold.  is that caused by something else?
[06:00] <Jucato> kool4444_: Ctrl+A
[06:00] <K`zan> Jucato: VERY much appreciated!
[06:00] <K`zan> Jucato: Very handy little utility.
[06:00] <gameman73> can anyone give me some help?  fglrx kinda took a crap on me after edgy upgrade
[06:00] <joe_> as with getting off any addiction you have to have a support group.  I would be helpless w/o this IRC.  Thanks everyone.
[06:00] <kool4444_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29290/
[06:00] <xsacha> yeah ctrl+a or highlight it, or click at start and shift+click end, or there should be select all in menu if it is a GUI app
[06:01] <kool4444_> ok thats the whole file
[06:01] <E[m] ess> kool4444: that cant be your whole xconfig, its too small
[06:01] <kool4444_> updated just now
[06:01] <Cuboid> It is still doing it.
[06:01] <E[m] ess> oh ok
[06:01] <Cuboid> root@laptop:~# apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[06:01] <Cuboid> Reading package lists... Done
[06:01] <Cuboid> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:01] <Cuboid> Calculating upgrade... Done
[06:01] <Cuboid> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:01] <terdinator> For SuperKaramba, what format do I download widget packages in, tar packages?
[06:01] <rythan> skz
[06:01] <rythan> if available
[06:01] <terdinator> ok
[06:02] <Jucato> terdinator: .tar.gz, but you have to extract them
[06:02] <soundmaster80> kool4444 are you able to see what i'm writing?
[06:02] <kool4444_> yes
[06:02] <kool4444_> i saw that
[06:02] <rythan> What will break if I try to follow the dorections at: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Eye_Candy
[06:02] <E[m] ess> ok kool4444, you need to make teh changes for aiglx, so where it ahs sectione xtension, for composite you have '0', you need that to be enabled isntead of 0
[06:02] <rythan> ?
[06:02] <soundmaster80> i just wanted to make sure you had seen that site i sent you...you never answered
[06:03] <kool4444_> did i miss somthin soundmaster?
[06:03] <rythan> On Kubuntu edgy that is
[06:03] <soundmaster80> rythan, what are you worried about
[06:03] <terdinator> is ImageMagick a direct dependency of LiquidWeather?
[06:03] <soundmaster80> if it doesn't work the X probably wont startt
[06:03] <kool4444_> so just type "Enable" in there?
[06:03] <soundmaster80> yes
[06:03] <rythan> That XGL/Compiz will work or not?
[06:03] <soundmaster80> terdinator...yes it is
[06:03] <s> Please I need some help!
[06:03] <E[m] ess> yes,you need to maek some mroe changes as well
[06:04] <soundmaster80> kool4444.... http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Eye_Candy
[06:04] <terdinator> Do I grab ImageMagick from a repository with apt-get?
[06:04] <E[m] ess> in teh modules section, add in Load "dbe"
[06:04] <E[m] ess> and also # Load "GLcore"
[06:04] <rythan> Yeup -- apt-get install imagemagick
[06:04] <soundmaster80> it has instructions for ATI cards....i just wanted to make sure you had used that
[06:04] <E[m] ess> you need to maek sure teh # is there so it doesnt use GLcore
[06:04] <noxxle> i accidently removed the volume and power applet icons from the taskbar and now i cannot figure out how to get them back. I can find the kmix, but the icon is different and when i click on it, it does not show the volume icon.
[06:04] <Lam_> does anyone else have an outrageously bold font for their panel clock?
[06:05] <soundmaster80> lam_ , you can change that :)
[06:05] <s> Please help me! When i open a page that conains Flash content Firefox crashes and quits!
[06:05] <Jucato> Lam_: does it only affect you clock?
[06:05] <E[m] ess> kool4444 then in server layout, add in Option           "AIGLX" "true"
[06:05] <Lam_> Jucato: lol no, but the bold is annoying since it happened out of nowhere
[06:05] <E[m] ess> so that aiglx turns on
[06:05] <soundmaster80> hang on s i have a post that helped me
[06:05] <s> oh great!
[06:05] <E[m] ess> if your in pico us ctrl-o to save and then ctrl-x to exit
[06:05] <Lam_> soundmaster80: how would i go about changing it if i don't know what caused it?  my Appearance settings seem fine
[06:05] <terdinator> It says it cant find package ImageMagick <----- is this is the normal repositories or do I have to grab it manually?
[06:05] <Jucato> Lam_: you could probably check for Fonts in System Settings?
[06:05] <Lam_> Jucato: that's where i am right now.
[06:06] <Lam_> Jucato: everything is default.
[06:06] <soundmaster80> lam_ if you will right click on the clock you can configure it
[06:06] <Jucato> hm...
[06:06] <gameman73> can anyone give me some help?  fglrx kinda took a crap on me after edgy upgrade  :(
[06:06] <soundmaster80> should be able to change the fonts,colors and things just for the clock
[06:06] <Lam_> soundmaster80: it's not a clock thing.  i was using the clock as a reference point.  everything bold in Sans Serif 9 is REALLY bold
[06:07] <Cuboid> Thanks. I think it's actually doing it now.
[06:07] <soundmaster80> ah
[06:07] <terdinator> BlueLoonie are you from Michigan Tech University????
[06:07] <soundmaster80> system settings > fonts.....check them there
[06:07] <inteliwasp> i'm trying to get wireless to work but the interface disapeared from iwconfig
[06:07] <xsacha> yes he is
[06:08] <soundmaster80> i dl'd lucida grande and changed all mine
[06:08] <sebastian22> soundmaster80: where's the post?
[06:08] <soundmaster80> i'm looking, i'm sorry....give me a secx
[06:08] <soundmaster80> flash problem wasn't it ?
[06:08] <sebastian22> oh ok thx man
[06:08] <kool4444_> ok emess, i made the changes, now just save and reboot?
[06:08] <sebastian22> yeah
[06:08] <Emess> save and restart x
[06:08] <sebastian22> it quits when i enter a page with flash content
[06:08] <Emess> restart x with ctrl-alt-backspace
[06:08] <xsacha> sebastian22: amd64?
[06:09] <sebastian22> no
[06:09] <sebastian22> amd athlon xp
[06:09] <Pensa`MIA> is there a 386 kernel for edgy, because the generic kernel is not working properly with the nvidia drivers
[06:09] <kool4444_> under the module section should it be # Load "GLcore" or without the pound sign?
[06:09] <xsacha> nonfree flash?
[06:09] <terdinator> Where do I get ImageMagick?
[06:09] <soundmaster80> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286069&highlight=flash+9+firefox
[06:09] <Emess> include teh hash, its nto a poundsign
[06:09] <soundmaster80> there you go....first one did it for me :)
[06:09] <xsacha> lol@pound sign
[06:09] <kool4444_> heh sorry
[06:09] <Jucato> hm... I'm having a weird problem with flash... works with Konqueror, but not with Firefox/Swiftfox...
[06:09] <kool4444_> kk
[06:09] <sebastian22> great thanks soundmaster80 i will try it
[06:10] <soundmaster80> i hope it works for you :)
[06:10] <Jucato> oh nvm.. just doesn't work on Swiftfox...
[06:10] <dinosaur-rus> hi all
[06:10] <Emess> looks like my problem an only be fixed by ubuntu dev, nobody knows :(
[06:11] <soundmaster80> sebastion, please let me know if it works
[06:11] <KooL4444> oh oh, tried to run beryl after it restarted and it crashed, its now frozen
[06:12] <Emess> did composite start?
[06:12] <dude> abattoir !
[06:13] <xsacha> KooL4444: kwin --replace
[06:13] <dude> jucato !
[06:13] <Jucato> dude: hi!
[06:13] <xsacha> it's not completely frozen right?
[06:13] <KooL4444> i think compostie started
[06:13] <KooL4444> it was frozen, i had to do ctrl alt bckspc
[06:13] <wombat_> Could someone please tell me what to do with an *.rpm file?
[06:13] <KooL4444> whats kwin --replace?
[06:13] <xsacha> ctrl alt backspace worked then wasnt frozen
[06:14] <soundmaster80> wombat.....burn it in the firey pits of hell
[06:14] <xsacha> replaces window manager back to kwin, so you get your borders back
[06:14] <soundmaster80> along with all the other rpm's of the world :)
[06:14] <dude> jucato: is there a widget like app for kubuntu?
[06:14] <dinosaur-rus> does anybody know if it's possible to switch language with just Ctrl+Shift?
[06:14] <soundmaster80> dude.....apt-get install superkaramba
[06:14] <Jucato> dude: Superkaramba
[06:14] <Kiongku> Jucato: darn kdesu does not work anymore
[06:14] <Jucato> Kiongku: what does it say?
[06:14] <dude> tnx guys
[06:15] <wombat_> soundmaster80: it's a game I want to install
[06:15] <Kiongku> it just does not work. I do kdesu adept_manager.. puts password but then it just goes out without a word
[06:15] <terdinator> Where did you get ImageMagick so you could use LiquidWeather Widget?
[06:15] <KooL4444> after i run "beryl-manager" all my windows freeze, but i can right click on the emerald
[06:15] <Kiongku> the program is never started
[06:15] <Jucato> Kiongku: try running it from Konsole
[06:15] <xsacha> thats not kdesu not working then
[06:15] <soundmaster80> a game?
[06:15] <Kiongku> Jucato: thats from konsole
[06:15] <soundmaster80> oh oh
[06:16] <soundmaster80> what's the game?
[06:16] <xsacha> Kiongku: what does it say after what you typed? it just goes back to $?
[06:16] <wombat_> soundmaster: I downloaded a linux version of a game and this is the file i got. Is it doe a different distro?
[06:16] <sebastian22> soundmaster80: How do i change the color depth in kubuntu?
[06:16] <wombat_> Scorched Earth 3D
[06:17] <soundmaster80> ok, just a sec....wombat. rpm's are red hat, etc...your looking for .deb packages
[06:17] <Jucato> Kiongku: hm... have you tried launching any other app with kdesu? or tried clicking on the Administrator Mode button?
[06:17] <xsacha> sebastian22: /etc/X11/xorg.conf -> section screen -> DefaultDepth
[06:17] <soundmaster80> thank you xsacha :)
[06:17] <Kiongku> xsacha: yah
[06:17] <KooL4444> me Jucato?
[06:17] <terdinator> Do you manually have to compile ImageMagick or is there a package for it?
[06:17] <sebastian22> thanks
[06:17] <Jucato> KooL4444: no not you. Kiongku
[06:17] <wombat_> Soundmaster: Thanx, I wasn't sure
[06:17] <KooL4444> oh ok
[06:17] <Kiongku> Jucato: i've done kdesu adept_manager.. kdesu synaptic.. kdesu kate non work
[06:18] <soundmaster80> you can change a RPM to DEB with alien but i don't know how reliable it is
[06:18] <Kiongku> sudo works though
[06:18] <Jucato> Kiongku: hmm... have you tried rebooting (eek!)
[06:18] <Kiongku> sudo synaptic starts the program as it should be
[06:18] <terdinator> Soundmaster did you manually compile ImageMagick?
[06:18] <Kiongku> Jucato: rebooted thrice
[06:18] <xsacha> :O
[06:18] <soundmaster80> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_.rpm_to_.deb_Converter_.28Alien.29
[06:18] <soundmaster80> no
[06:18] <dinosaur-rus> Kiongsu: try to reboot, that worked for me
[06:18] <Jucato> Kiongku: that is indeed bad...
[06:18] <Kiongku> did not work here..
[06:18] <soundmaster80> should be apt-get install imagemagick
[06:18] <terdinator> hmmm.... I have all repositories enabled, but ImageMagick is not in there
[06:18] <inteliwasp> i'm trying to get wireless to work but the interface disapeared from iwconfig. how can i fix this?
[06:18] <Jucato> Kiongku: and after those reboots, kdesu still doesn't work?
[06:19] <xsacha> Kiongku: how do you get into KDE?
[06:19] <sudharsh> terdinator: hmm...i guess its imagemagick
[06:19] <wombat_> Soundmaster: it's ok, I'll just download the *.deb file :D
[06:19] <xsacha> automatically? startkde?..
[06:19] <soundmaster80> hang on i'll check
[06:19] <Jucato> terdinator: imagemagick is in main
[06:19] <soundmaster80> yeah, i just installed it
[06:19] <gameman73>  does ANYONE know what the crap "FATAL:  Error running install command for flgrx" might mean?   fglrx refuses to work"
[06:20] <Kiongku> xsacha: by login manager lol
[06:20] <KooL4444> so when i run the beryl command, it seems like xwindows freezes, then i do ctrl-alt-bckspc and its back to original
[06:20] <soundmaster80> do apt-cache search imagemagick
[06:20] <soundmaster80> that should point you to the right package
[06:21] <Kiongku> wait i brb
[06:21] <terdinator> There we go, Thanks Soundmaster!  =)
[06:21] <soundmaster80> hey wombat
[06:21] <soundmaster80> you can do apt-get install scorched3d
[06:22] <soundmaster80> shoud be able to anyways
[06:22] <K`zan> Am I doing something wrong here?  df isn't listing nfs mounts even with -a ?!?
[06:22] <Kiongku> hmm
[06:23] <KooL4444> whats the difference between the cd download and the DVD download of kubuntu?
[06:23] <Kiongku> evern restarting x server does not solve anything..
[06:23] <wombat_> soundmaster: at the terminal?
[06:23] <soundmaster80> yup
[06:23] <Jucato> KooL4444: lots of stuff. DVD contains everythin in the main and restricted repositories, and probably some universe stuff too
[06:23] <soundmaster80> if it doesn't then i would go to the www.ubuntuguide.org and change my sources.list to theirs
[06:23] <Emess> oh gawd a wombat :P
[06:24] <soundmaster80> cool, i wondered that myself
[06:24] <Lam_> ping
[06:24] <KooL4444> does all that stuff get installed automatically? or is it for ppl who dont have broadband?
[06:24] <soundmaster80> pong
[06:24] <Lam_> thanks :)
[06:24] <soundmaster80> ha
[06:25] <Jucato> KooL4444: people who don't have broadband. and they don't get installed automatically
[06:25] <KooL4444> kk ty
[06:25] <Kiongku> !kdesu
[06:25] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:26] <Kiongku> hmm
[06:26] <Kiongku> deleting .kde
[06:26] <Jucato> O_O
[06:26] <Jucato> Kiongku: I suggest just renaming it
[06:26] <Kiongku> :p
[06:26] <Kiongku> XD
[06:28] <terdinator> Man this superkaramba rocks!
[06:28] <soundmaster80> yeah, i quite like it
[06:28] <KooL4444> im just gonna reinstall all of kubuntu and start fresh with this deryl crap
[06:28] <soundmaster80> i just wish it was compatible with konfabulator stuff
[06:29] <Kiongku> duh did not sovle it
[06:30] <Kiongku> hmm
[06:30] <xsacha> kdesu -v    what version? :P
[06:31] <KooL4444> soundmaster80 can you paste that link that you pasted earlier i didnt get a chace to look at it, is it for installing deryl?
[06:31] <soundmaster80> sure kool
[06:31] <dude> jucato: how do i use superkaramba
[06:31] <soundmaster80> i'll just give you the full site
[06:31] <soundmaster80> www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:31] <soundmaster80> it will help you with many things
[06:31] <KooL4444> thnx, bookmarked
[06:31] <dude> !superkaramba
[06:31] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[06:31] <Jucato> dude: download a superkaramba theme fro kde-look
[06:32] <xsacha> Qt: 3.3.6 KDE: 3.5.5 KDE su: 1.0?
[06:32] <momal> help... when i got home today my kde was loged out. when i put in user/pass for any user it just goes black screen then loads the login screen again
[06:32] <momal> no errors are shown and log file doesn't show anything inormal :S
[06:32] <momal> abnormal*
[06:33] <soundmaster80> BTW, just to throw this out there....if you find yourself using the console for various things i would install "yakuake"
[06:33] <soundmaster80> i don't know what i did before i found that
[06:33] <xsacha> momal: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE  none?
[06:33] <Kiongku> yah sorry disc
[06:33] <momal> i'll have  acheck im in irssi at the moment
[06:33] <momal> brb
[06:33] <Kiongku> Qt: 3.3.6
[06:33] <Kiongku> KDE: 3.5.5
[06:33] <Kiongku> KDE su: 1.0
[06:33] <Kiongku> is it like urs?
[06:33] <xsacha> yes, same
[06:33] <xsacha> why did momal quit irssi?
[06:34] <KooL4444> is thiswhat im lookin at for deryl? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268149&highlight=howto+ati+xgl
[06:34] <soundmaster80> yup, it is :)
[06:34] <xsacha> deryl you keep saying, you mean beryl?
[06:34] <KooL4444> yeh, sorry lol
[06:35] <KooL4444> im all confused
[06:35] <momal> it just shows a line saying (ww) warning (ee) error and few other codes
[06:35] <KooL4444> before today ive never heard of any of this
[06:35] <xsacha> momal: you dont need to quit irssi
[06:35] <momal> oh
[06:35] <inteliwasp> how do i adjust the time in CLI?
[06:35] <momal> how can i get to cmd then ?
[06:35] <momal> from irssi
[06:35] <xsacha> press alt+f2 to go to tty and alt+f1 to come back to tty1 -- you have 6 tty
[06:35] <xsacha> tty2*
[06:35] <momal> ahhh smart cookie :o
[06:35] <xsacha> with F1->F6
[06:36] <momal> any other ideas on how to fix kde :(
[06:36] <terminus_> hi, my dhclient don't give a IP, any idea?, it say:
[06:36] <terminus_> HCPREQUEST on eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67
[06:36] <terminus_> DHCPACK from <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:36] <terminus_> bound to <IP_ADDRESS> -- renewal in 2836 seconds
[06:36] <xsacha> F7 will take you back to the kde login
[06:36] <momal> or get some info to fix it
[06:36] <xsacha> there was no errors in that log momal?
[06:36] <Kiongku> where is kdesu pacakge supposed to be?
[06:36] <Kiongku> !entrance
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about entrance - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <inteliwasp> how do i reset the time in CLI?
[06:37] <momal> nope just those codes i said eariler :S
[06:37] <momal> and kdm.log did't show anything abnormal
[06:37] <xsacha> ok well obviously X crashed, that's why it takes you back to login screen
[06:38] <xsacha> look at bottom of Xorg.0.log
[06:38] <inteliwasp> er... kdesu fails for me...
[06:38] <xsacha> do you have anything like beryl to run on startup?
[06:39] <momal> ok in bottom of xorg.0.log file there is a bit say error opening security policy and then under that about fonts and says removing from list... umm i have beryl but i manaully start it up after kde has finsihed loging in
[06:40] <xsacha> fonts you can ignore, beryl doesnt matter then.. what's this security policy?
[06:41] <momal> error opening security policy file /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy | then there is a few xkb_ lines with some includes inside { and }
[06:41] <inteliwasp> how do i fix kdesu, it wont let me use anything
[06:41] <momal> im using edgy as well if that can help you :p
[06:41] <Jucato> Kiongku:  looks like you're not the only one ^^^^
[06:42] <xsacha> no fatal server error in there momal?
[06:42] <momal> nope
[06:42] <xsacha> hmm what's crashing it, i dunno
[06:44] <inteliwasp> does anyone know how to set the time in a console?
[06:44] <momal> after i click the login button screen goes straight black then a lighter black then cursor comes up and then kde login screen... but usually before if the X server crashed the nvidia logo would come back up but it doens't seem to
[06:44] <Jucato> inteliwasp: timestamp too far intot he future?
[06:45] <inteliwasp> Jucato:  yep and kdesu won't let me in to reset the time
[06:45] <Jucato> inteliwasp: I rebooted to solve that... I don't know if it works 100% of the time
[06:46] <xsacha> momal: check xorg.conf, what driver is it using?
[06:46] <xsacha> maybe something in xorg.conf changed
[06:46] <inteliwasp> Jucato:  therin lies the problem... i reboot countless time tring to fix a failed attemt at upgrading and the time is FUBARed
[06:46] <Jucato> @_@
[06:46] <Kiongku> haha same here
[06:46] <Kiongku> sudo works though
[06:47] <xsacha> inteliwasp: is time wrong in BIOS?
[06:47] <inteliwasp> i wonder if i shuld set it back the corect amount in bios
[06:47] <jay> Hello!  Is there a way of telling Kubuntu to never upgrade a certain package? (in my case, I do not want WINE upgraded since the upgrade breaks the application I want to use)
[06:47] <xsacha> upgrades have to be done manually?
[06:48] <Jucato> no. locking a specific package to a specific version I guess
[06:48] <Jucato> it can be done with synaptic, but not with adept
[06:48] <momal> HMMMMM... what does /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession meant to have in it ?
[06:48] <momal> becuase mine is blank
[06:48] <xsacha> ah
[06:49] <inteliwasp> ok now i am perplexed... the bios time is local but the timestamp says 3 hours ahead......
[06:49] <Kiongku> inteliwasp: yah it is
[06:49] <jay> Jucato... IC.  That's disappointing.  Kind of makes adept notifier useless to me then. :(
[06:49] <momal> how do i get the normal contents of /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession back ?
[06:49] <xsacha> momal: it's a long script, want me to paste it?
[06:49] <inteliwasp> and kdesu is FUBAR on me
[06:49] <momal> umm can you upload to a website as a plain text file so i can wget it :)
[06:50] <xsacha> ok
[06:51] <noiesmo> hey all looking for an application to rescue data from floppy
[06:51] <inteliwasp> ok it's oficcial, this weekend is now a living hell for me
[06:51] <xsacha> momal: bur.st/~s/Xsession
[06:51] <inteliwasp> Xorg broke AGAIN!
[06:51] <Kiongku> where the heck is kdesu found.. in whcih package.. i gonna nuke it
[06:51] <K`zan> Night folks
[06:51] <intelikey> noiesmo what kind of data and what is the reason you need a tool ?
[06:52] <Jucato> Kiongku: kdelibs4c2a I think
[06:52] <xsacha> got it momal? :)
[06:52] <noiesmo> intelikey, the data's images for a teacher at the school I work for
[06:52] <intelikey> Kiongku just put your user in the adm group
[06:52] <justin_> hello?
[06:52] <Kiongku> intelikey: crazy i'm not running as root all the time
[06:53] <intelikey> noiesmo try fsck /dev/fd0 first if that wont do check back.
[06:53] <intelikey> Kiongku ?
[06:53] <intelikey> !sudo | Kiongku
[06:53] <ubotu> Kiongku: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:54] <Kiongku> i know
[06:54] <noiesmo> intelikey, yeah ok will try tomorrow
[06:54] <Kiongku> i currently using sudo
[06:54] <Kiongku> but kde wants kdesu and that freaking annoys me since its not working
[06:54] <justin_> is there a linux program thats comparable to windows media player (such as being able to rip, burn, and play?)
[06:54] <intelikey> Kiongku if sudo is working what is the issue with dkesu ?
[06:54] <xsacha> Kiongku: administator mode doesnt work either? i guess cause it uses kdesu?
[06:55] <Jucato> justin_: rip & burn = k3b, play = amarok (music) or kaffeine (music and video)
[06:55] <momal> yay
[06:55] <inteliwasp> !kdesu
[06:55] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:55] <momal> ^^
[06:55] <momal> thanks for that :)
[06:55] <Kiongku> intelikey: kdesu does not open the program
[06:55] <xsacha> does it log on momal? :P
[06:55] <momal> yup :D.. in konversation now ^^
[06:55] <Kiongku> i put password but in command it returns back to $ without anything
[06:55] <xsacha> nice
[06:55] <intelikey> Kiongku in a konsole type " kdesu echo yes  "
[06:55] <intelikey> tell us any errors
[06:55] <Kiongku> no errors. plain back to $
[06:56] <justin_> thanks Jucato
[06:56] <Kiongku> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29297/
[06:56] <xsacha> Kiongku: /usr/bin/kdesu echo yes?
[06:56] <Kiongku> see for urself
[06:57] <xsacha> Kiongku!!! Thats a big lot of errors you didnt tell us about
[06:57] <duckdown> How can I go about creating an archive (like a tar) with a password on it, for use on another system?
[06:57] <Kiongku> duh :P sorry
[06:57] <Kiongku> but still
[06:57] <xsacha> it's meant to have no errors
[06:57] <inteliwasp> well i have internet access but lost xorg... i need sleep and some thermite to burn the box with...
[06:57] <Kiongku> hmm xorg?
[06:57] <Jucato> xsacha: those errors are nothing
[06:58] <xsacha> mine has no errors..
[06:58] <Kiongku> ...
[06:58] <Jucato> xsacha: just saying that wacom can't be detected
[06:58] <Jucato> !baddevice
[06:58] <ubotu> If you are getting errors similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[06:58] <Random_Transit> can anyone help me, i just tried to upgrade to edgy using the repos....and now ubuntu won't start
[06:58] <intelikey> Kiongku that's a socket failure  if i'm not mistaken   not kdesu's fault more like ssh-agent or kio
[06:58] <Kiongku> so.. any solution?
[06:58] <Lam_> i fixed it.  anti-aliasing was on Medium.  i switched it to Full, and the bold faced font renderings returned to normal
[06:59] <xsacha> it's device 166 Jucato, not 168.. 166 is a showstopper.. ?
[06:59] <intelikey> Kiongku not famieluar with is.  have you plugged the error into google ?    google "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166"
[06:59] <Kiongku> sure googling now
[06:59] <Jucato> xsacha: AFAIK, the device number varies from system to system
[07:00] <xsacha> everyone else with 166 has showstopper
[07:00] <flaccid> Emess: status of your upgrade?
[07:00] <xsacha> on google
[07:00] <intelikey> with the quotes should help
[07:00] <Jucato> really? hm...
[07:00] <Vipercat> can anyone offer me some install advice for edgy
[07:01] <intelikey> Vipercat mmm don't  ?
[07:01] <Vipercat> i am trying to install it onto a acer veriton3500
[07:01] <flaccid> Vipercat: install it ?
[07:01] <intelikey> lol
[07:01] <flaccid> you just install it..
[07:01] <Emess> flaccid:  still stuck on acpid
[07:01] <xsacha> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1069596 "fixed by deleted the /root/config directory." hmm
[07:01] <intelikey> there you have it.  advised to both install it and not to.
[07:01] <Kiongku> yah
[07:02] <Random_Transit> speaking of installing edgy...i'm having some troubles...
[07:02] <Vipercat> the install starts up and shows the kubuntu logo and scrolling bar then all goes black and thats it
[07:02] <Kiongku> but wher ethe hell is config in kubuntu
[07:02] <intelikey> xsacha ah ha.  just like i MENTIONED so many times kdm writing to /root is *BAD!*  but they wont listen.
[07:02] <aib> the ubuntuguide wiki has a link to `http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg', which is dead. is there an alternate?
[07:02] <flaccid> Emess: whats the current output?
[07:03] <Emess> http://rafb.net/paste/results/n3FKyt11.html
[07:03] <Kiongku> intelikey: any idea about that /root/config directory :S?
[07:03] <flaccid> Emess: did you try installing the packages from kubuntu-desktop manually?
[07:03] <Alter-Ego> Random_Transit: what kind of troubels