[10:34] <Kprofthreat> Most people don't use ext2 file systems anymore.
[10:34] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthreat: cool, check the files now
[10:34] <eagles0513875> !ext4
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <Kprofthreat> I still get the error message
[10:34] <Kprofthreat> Oddly enough
[10:34] <Kprofthreat> I could try rebooting
[10:34] <eagles0513875> Kprofthreat: wait
[10:34] <zorglu_> !upgrade
[10:34] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[10:34] <insmod> <Milhousnd then ext3 -- nopeePunkRock> ext2 is non journal wich means it need to be fixed and defragged now a
[10:34] <eagles0513875> have u shutdown ur windows partition incorrectly
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthreat: rebooting won't help
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthreat: give me a sec
[10:35] <Kprofthreat> No. This drive just has files, not Windows
[10:35] <eagles0513875> if u have ur goign to need to run chkdsk on ur windows partition then once that is done boot into it once and see if that helps at all
[10:35] <eagles0513875> ahhhh ok
[10:35] <addyk> Hello! kubuntu:)
[10:36] <addyk> eagles0513875: Does ext4 exist?
[10:36] <eagles0513875> Kprofthreat: do u plan on whiping that partition and reformating it with one that linux will understand
[10:36] <insmod> MilhousePunkRock,  ext2 is non journal wich means it need to be fixed and defragged now and ext3 no
[10:36] <Kprofthreat> Yes
[10:36] <Kprofthreat> How'd ya guess
[10:36] <Kprofthreat> =P
[10:36] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:37] <eagles0513875> i think they r developing one addyk
[10:37] <Admiral_Chicago> try http://www.pastebin.ca/591578
[10:37] <Kprofthreat> I actually plan on putting Gentoo on it
[10:37] <addyk> OK thanks eagles0513875 :)
[10:37] <eagles0513875> Kprofthreat: then i would try ntfs-3g
[10:37] <eagles0513875> addyk let me look up something
[10:37] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthreat: also, the UUID needs the dashes, did you remove them?
[10:37] <addyk> OK.
[10:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Kprofthreat: Good luck with that... make sure you read the handbook properly!
[10:37] <eagles0513875> addykhttp://www.bullopensource.org/ext4/
[10:38] <eagles0513875> addyk: http://www.bullopensource.org/ext4/
[10:38] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:38] <eagles0513875> !kernel
[10:38] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:38] <Kprofthreat> Oh, it does?
[10:38] <addyk> OK :)
[10:38] <Kprofthreat> Ok then, I'll have to readd
[10:38] <addyk> Huh? Firefox doesn't come with kubuntu?
[10:39] <ardchoille> No
[10:39] <eagles0513875> sudo apt-get install firefox addyk
[10:39] <Kprofthreat> MilhousePunkRock: I actually heard the install is a lot easier now. I plan to do a stage 3 since the others aren't supported anymore
[10:40] <eagles0513875> addyk the thing wiht kubuntu is that it allows u to install stuff u use or need not a whole lot of other junk that is what makes it a vry user friendly and vry customizable linux distro
[10:40] <addyk> I know  I know... :D eagles0513875 I'm using kubuntu installation CD now...
[10:40] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:40] <eagles0513875> oh
[10:40] <eagles0513875> u new to kubuntu addyk
[10:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Kprofthreat: I installed my gentoo before 2007.0, possibly it's easier now. In general, gentoo is rather for the advanced user... And I think you should go through the pain of manually setting it up...
[10:40] <addyk> And I wanted to install and use firefox too :D
[10:40] <Kprofthreat> Just cause you did, eh?
[10:41] <Kprofthreat> Lol
[10:41] <addyk> Kinda... :) I had it once ... forgot it didn't have firefox :)
[10:41] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:41] <Kprofthreat> Lol, that's what initially caught my eye
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> addyk: That's "sudo apt-get install firefox" on a shell
[10:41] <zorglu_> somebody has to debug khtml
[10:41] <Kprofthreat> Oh, and Admiral_Chicago, no dashes in the UUID to begin w/
[10:41] <eagles0513875> ya that is on shell forgot to tell u that
[10:41] <Ubuntu-Craft> ;)
[10:42] <addyk> I've just upgraded my PC and wanted to test the composite thingie .... the one with transparency :)
[10:42] <eagles0513875> lol with a name like that Ubuntu-Craft im guessing u play WoW
[10:42] <eagles0513875> u mean this one
[10:42] <addyk> I figured MilhousePunkRock :) Thanks :D
[10:42] <eagles0513875> !beryl | addyk
[10:42] <ubotu> addyk: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:43] <Kprofthreat> Lol, WoW...what a joke.
[10:43] <eagles0513875> u mean that one addyk
[10:43] <eagles0513875> whats is a joke about it
[10:43] <addyk> OOOOOK YAHOO :)
[10:43] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:43] <Kprofthreat> Well, there's an equal chance he plays SC
[10:43] <Kprofthreat> After all..SC2 =]
[10:43] <addyk> I knew only about kde composite...
[10:43] <eagles0513875> addyk i have something that will help u set that up
[10:43] <addyk> it was something in the kde control panel
[10:43] <eagles0513875> addyk before i forget what kinda video card do u have
[10:43] <addyk> dcc send it pls :D
[10:44] <addyk> i915
[10:44] <eagles0513875> intel
[10:44] <addyk> Yup :)
[10:44] <eagles0513875> type this in the shell glxinfo
[10:44] <eagles0513875> and then scroll all the way to the top and look at direct rendering
[10:44] <addyk> OK... w8 a sec
[10:44] <Admiral_Chicago> okay Kprofthreat
[10:44] <eagles0513875> k
[10:45] <Kprofthreat> Admiral, there were no dashes in the UUID
[10:45] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthreat: did you apply my changes/
[10:45] <Admiral_Chicago> did that work
[10:45] <addyk> I have direct rendering :) direct rendering: yes
[10:46] <Kprofthreat> The latest pastebin?
[10:46] <Kprofthreat> Yeah
[10:46] <addyk> eagles0513875: Yes :)
[10:46] <MANU_> ..
[10:47] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthreat: so it works?
[10:47] <Admiral_Chicago> sweet
[10:47] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm off to bed
[10:47] <eagles0513875> direct rendering is enabled then addyk
[10:47] <eagles0513875> that is good
[10:47] <eagles0513875> makes things a whole lot easier
[10:47] <eagles0513875> once u have kubuntu installed let me know
[10:47] <Kprofthreat> The fstab works, but the drive still doesn't open.
[10:47] <Kprofthreat> There were no dashes in my UUID
[10:47] <Kprofthreat> =/
[10:47] <Admiral_Chicago> crap.
[10:48] <eagles0513875> and ur not on the live cd
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthreat: can you ping me about this in the morning, its close to 4am here
[10:48] <addyk> I'm on the instalation CD no?
[10:48] <eagles0513875> Admiral_Chicago: if he tries ntfs-3g he could pull the files then he can reformat the partition woudl that work
[10:48] <Kprofthreat> If I'm up
[10:48] <eagles0513875> u rnt goign to install it
[10:49] <eagles0513875> Kprofthreat: try the ntfs-3g pkg and see if that helps
[10:49] <Kprofthreat> Ok
[10:49] <Kprofthreat> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g right?
[10:49] <eagles0513875> rnt u wanting to pull the files from that partition onto this partition so taht u can reformat it
[10:49] <eagles0513875> yep
[10:49] <eagles0513875> then once that is installed let me know
[10:50] <Kprofthreat> Yeah
[10:50] <eagles0513875> then ntfs-3g is ur best bet
[10:50] <eagles0513875> cuz u want read write access so taht way u dont have to copy and paste stuff u just drag the stuff off of that partition
[10:51] <Kprofthreat> Setting up ntfs-3g (1.328-1) ...
[10:51] <Kprofthreat> Setting ntfs-3g suid root with group fuse...done
[10:51] <Kprofthreat> Users from 'fuse' group can now mount NTFS volume.
[10:52] <eagles0513875> then wait before doign that
[10:52] <eagles0513875> open up the fstab
[10:52] <eagles0513875> and where it says ntfs add the -3g at the end
[10:52] <eagles0513875> umount it then mount it again
[10:52] <eagles0513875> did that make any sense lol
[10:53] <Kprofthreat> We'll see in a few secs
[10:53] <eagles0513875> ok
[10:53] <Kprofthreat> Still no
[10:53] <Kprofthreat> I COULD go into my Windows partition
[10:53] <eagles0513875> did u add the 3g in the fstab
[10:53] <Kprofthreat> Yes
[10:53] <Kprofthreat> And then rip it onto Windows
[10:53] <eagles0513875> did u sudo into it
[10:54] <Kprofthreat> And go through Linux
[10:54] <Kprofthreat> Yes
[10:54] <eagles0513875> ok
[10:54] <Kprofthreat> In fact, I think I probably will do that.
[10:54] <Kprofthreat> Save me a headache
[10:54] <eagles0513875> did u sudo umount /dev/name of drive
[10:54] <eagles0513875> sda1 or hda1 for ex
[10:55] <Kprofthreat> Yes
[10:55] <eagles0513875> then try mount it
[10:55] <Kprofthreat> I already did. It still gives me that error
[10:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Kprofthreat: What error?
[10:55] <eagles0513875> ok then in the shell type in fsck /dev/name of partition
[10:56] <Kprofthreat> fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[10:56] <Kprofthreat> fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
[10:56] <Kprofthreat> fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/hdd1
[10:58] <Kprofthreat> Well, while I appreciate the help, I'm going to see if I can get this system thingy to work.
[10:58] <Kprofthreat> I'll just do the workaround
[10:58] <Kprofthreat> Much less hassle
[10:58] <Kprofthreat> But thx anyway for the efforts
[11:01] <tacklebox> Question: I just installed Kubuntu (using the desktop installer cd). The only problem is that whenever I try to actually boot the OS, it freezes up and the monitor goes to standby. Also, the scroll lock and caps lock keys start flashing on and off. Anyone know of a way to fix this?
[11:04] <tacklebox> I'll take that as a "No"...
[11:05] <Hobbsee> ***anyone interested in testing some kubuntu tribe 2 candidate gutsy cds please private message me****
[11:07] <addyk> is edgy old?
[11:07] <fritz> GOING MAD HERE!!!..ANY1 help me with my internet connection with windows?
[11:07] <addyk> windows???
[11:07] <fritz> ups
[11:07] <yeniklasor> Do you know any program to select an area of the screen then zoom (fullscreen) it ?
[11:07] <fritz> sorry
[11:07] <fritz> wrong channel:)
[11:08] <addyk> fritz: are you connecting with a local area network?
[11:08] <fritz> yea
[11:08] <eagles0513875> addyk its the last release
[11:08] <eagles0513875> feisty is the latest
[11:08] <addyk> OK... but it's not ready yet? eagles0513875
[11:09] <eagles0513875> installing
[11:09] <ardchoille> yeniklasor: kmagnifier can magnify part of the screen and let you specify how much magnification
[11:09] <eagles0513875> what u mean addyk
[11:09] <addyk> fritz: then it means it should connect automatically unless you have to set IPs
[11:09] <eagles0513875> hobsee i just pmed ya
[11:09] <fritz> dunno what's wrong with it
[11:09] <fritz> when i look in control panel
[11:09] <fritz> everything seems ok
[11:09] <fritz> i run a ipconfig
[11:10] <addyk> OK... eagles0513875 I wanted to know where is edgy situated... you said it's the last release?
[11:10] <fritz> and get a network adress
[11:10] <yeniklasor> ardchoille : thanks
[11:10] <fritz> try to ping..doesen't work
[11:10] <fritz> ...
[11:10] <fritz> :((
[11:10] <ardchoille> yeniklasor: kmag is part of kdeutils
[11:10] <ubuntu__> hi guys
[11:10] <ubuntu__> i need help
[11:10] <eagles0513875> its the relaease before feisty
[11:10] <addyk> Hmm... ipconfig is something you need to do? fritz I mean...
[11:10] <eagles0513875> feisty came out back in april
[11:10] <ubuntu__> i have installed kubuntu but i cant boot without cd
[11:10] <addyk> OK :)
[11:10] <addyk> Thanks eagles0513875
[11:11] <ubuntu__> i have windows mandriva in sata drive and now kubuntu in ide drive
[11:11] <ubuntu__> but i cant boot into kubuntu without cd
[11:11] <addyk> fritz: I mean... when I ran windows I didn't have to do anything...
[11:11] <ubuntu__> how can i make a triple boot menu with grub_
[11:12] <tacklebox> ubuntu__, I have the same problem; don't think anyone here knows how to fix it.
[11:12] <zorglu_> ok adept is doing coredump when i try to upgrade to feisty, what should i do ?
[11:12] <ubuntu__> so how do u boot-
[11:12] <ubuntu__> do u use always a cd_
[11:12] <tacklebox> I just installed it about an hour ago.
[11:12] <tacklebox> So, yeah.
[11:13] <tacklebox> Does your's freeze up whenever you try to boot normally?
[11:13] <ubuntu__> nope
[11:13] <eagles0513875> ubuntu__: what u mean all u have to do is install the 3rd os
[11:14] <eagles0513875> and it automatically adds it to grub
[11:14] <ubuntu__> nope
[11:14] <ubuntu__> it didnt
[11:16] <astan> hm. when i insert an SD card the first time, everything works fine and i'm asked by KDE what i want to do.. but the second time, nothing happens.. anyone know why?
[11:18] <astan> dmesg seems quiet when i insert it the second time..
[11:24] <astan> ah. nevermind, it was just a glitch in the micro-SD->SD converter i have..
[11:27] <eagles0513875> anyone else testing out gutsy tribe 2
[11:27] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[11:27] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:29] <fritz> can you offer a little help with
[11:29] <fritz> setting up a theme?
[11:30] <eagles0513875> !theme
[11:30] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[11:30] <eagles0513875> !changethemes
[11:30] <ubotu> To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[11:30] <eagles0513875> can anyone tell me where the repositories list is saved
[11:30] <Jucato>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:30] <eagles0513875> ty
[11:30] <eagles0513875> how do i back up the list
[11:31] <Jucato> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup
[11:31] <astan> hm. i'm looking at a directory in konq and would like previews (like the first frame of video), i've increased the max size for previews in konq settings, and i'm in icon view.. but still no previews.. just icons for "video"..
[11:31] <eagles0513875> ty
[11:31] <fritz> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/NuoveXT+Theme?content=60895
[11:31] <fritz> i want to install that theme
[11:32] <fritz> and there are instructions
[11:32] <fritz> but they're not qute good...
[11:32] <Jucato> !changethemes | fritz
[11:32] <ubotu> fritz: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[11:32] <Jucato> fritz: the last link ^^^
[11:33] <Jucato> astan: "Video thumbnails in Konqueror -- install libarts1-xine. You can turn this functionality on and off through Konqueror's menu View->Preview->Video files."
[11:34] <eagles0513875> mornign jucato
[11:35] <Jucato> good afternoon to you, too
[11:35] <astan> Jucato: thanks a bunch, works great!
[11:35] <Jucato> ok
[11:35] <addyk> eagles0513875: I have finished installing...
[11:36] <addyk> How do I set beryl?
[11:36] <t1g3r> hey all
[11:36] <jussi01> hmmm, can i burn the install cd iso to a dvd with no probs?
[11:36] <eagles0513875> have u restarted ur comp
[11:36] <addyk> hey t1g3r
[11:36] <eagles0513875> jussi01: use k3b
[11:36] <eagles0513875> hey t1g3r
[11:36] <addyk> Well after installing yeah :)
[11:36] <eagles0513875> ok
[11:36] <t1g3r> any idea how to install the libdvdcss2  package in kubuntu? thing is i dont have a conection on there so i downloaded the package from the webpages
[11:37] <eagles0513875> addyk is ur name registered
[11:37] <t1g3r> sudo apt-get tries to get it from online
[11:37] <Jucato> !libdvdcss2
[11:37] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:37] <t1g3r> i just wanna install it like u do in windows
[11:37] <addyk> Yes eagles0513875
[11:37] <eagles0513875> may i pm
[11:37] <jussi01> t1g3r:  is it a deb?
[11:37] <t1g3r> sure
[11:37] <addyk> Yes :)
[11:37] <t1g3r> um i downladed the deb and the tar as well
[11:37] <Jucato> !deb
[11:37] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[11:37] <t1g3r> ah sweet
[11:37] <eagles0513875> addyk u need to /msg the nick serv and identify urself
[11:37] <addyk> I did that :)
[11:38] <eagles0513875> u did i just sent u pm
[11:38] <astan> hm. when i do the "safe removal" thing with my SD card, i get a warning that the operation was successful, but that the media could not be ejected.. that is pretty obvious since it's an SD card pushed into my built-in reader.. anyone know how i can get rid of that warning message?
[11:38] <eagles0513875> ahhh my fault
[11:38] <t1g3r> thanks folks ill bbl
[11:38] <addyk> -NickServ- You have already identified
[11:38] <addyk> A OK :D
[11:39] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: me too
[11:39] <eagles0513875> ?
[11:40] <eagles0513875> what ice u want help installing beryl
[11:40] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: sorry lol no, as in testing
[11:41] <eagles0513875> u have to talk to hobbsee she hooked me up but she isnt on dude
[11:41] <eagles0513875> im goign to be helping test the 64bit version of gutsy
[11:41] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: hooked up already
[11:41] <eagles0513875> u r
[11:42] <icecruncher> alternate for pc
[11:42] <eagles0513875> kool
[11:42] <eagles0513875> desktop for amd64
[11:43] <eagles0513875> lol i have to say even though i am not taking fully advantage of the 64bit capabilites i love the performance gain u get with a 64bit os
[11:43] <icecruncher> haha, wish i had a 64
[11:44] <eagles0513875> i have one here in my laptop and also in my desktop
[11:49] <eagles0513875> how do i add an icon to the k menu
[11:49] <eagles0513875> nm i got it
[11:56] <Jucato> !away > Indice
[12:00] <zorglu_> q. is there some way to disable a 'service' ? i would like to stop lighttpd to start when i boot the computer
[12:00] <eagles0513875> guys take a look at this
[12:00] <eagles0513875> http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[12:01] <eagles0513875> reverse engineered broadcom wifi driver lol
[12:01] <velo|gfx> hiho!
[12:01] <eagles0513875> going to give it to hobsee and she will forward it hopefully to be added to the gutsy release
[12:01] <velo|gfx> question: is there a possibility to update 6.06 to 7.04 from a dvd?
[12:01] <eagles0513875> ya
[12:01] <eagles0513875> wait
[12:01] <eagles0513875> not that i know of
[12:02] <eagles0513875> the only way to do that would be to add the feisty repositories and delete the repositories of the version u currently have
[12:02] <eagles0513875> then do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:03] <eagles0513875> velo|gfx: did that make any sense
[12:03] <velo|gfx> problem is ive installed 6.06 and do have a wireless card with broadcom chipset... well and it doesnt work
[12:03] <velo|gfx> so= no internet / no update
[12:05] <velo|gfx> i thought that it is possible to update it form dvd
[12:05] <zorglu_> velo|gfx: i think there is a way to update from cd
[12:05] <velo|gfx> how?
[12:05] <zorglu_> velo|gfx: let me find a page
[12:05] <velo|gfx> THX!
[12:06] <sweettooth> hey guys, i have moved from xp to kubuntu and so far it has been really great
[12:06] <zorglu_> velo|gfx: i dont find it... but i have seen this
[12:06] <sweettooth> but i am wondering if there is any kinda software like the yahoo widgets i can use in Kubuntu?
[12:07] <velo|gfx> mhhhh :(
[12:07] <Hoyt> is it possible to resize partitions with feisty partitioning tool?
[12:07] <ardchoille> sweettooth: Is that anything like superkaramba?
[12:07] <zorglu_> velo|gfx: stick around
[12:08] <sweettooth> ardchoille, arha, that looks nice
[12:09] <sweettooth> i heard kde is gonna port dashboard (from Mac) to linux, wonder if that is true?
[12:09] <ardchoille> sweettooth: If you use it, have a look at http://www.kde-look.org for tons of karamba themes
[12:09] <zorglu_> velo|gfx: ok this is around the tool apt-cdrom
[12:10] <velo|gfx> mhm
[12:10] <velo|gfx> apt-cdrom
[12:10] <sweettooth> ardchoille, that's cool, cheers m8
[12:11] <ardchoille> :)
[12:11] <zorglu_> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-610-edgy-eft-to-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-2.html#comment-3001 <- velo|gfx look at this
[12:11] <zorglu_> velo|gfx: then google a lot, you are on your own :)
[12:11] <velo|gfx> th!
[12:11] <Maxdamantus> Anyone compiled XChat on Kubuntu before?
[12:12] <Maxdamantus> Doesn't like my GLib.
[12:12] <eagles0513875> !fluxbox
[12:12] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[12:12] <ardchoille> Maxdamantus: Do you really need to compile? xchat is in the repos.
[12:12] <Maxdamantus> I do need to compile if I want to modify the source. :P
[12:12] <ardchoille> Ok
[12:13] <Maxdamantus> First it complained about the glib that aptitude installed for me.
[12:13] <Maxdamantus> Then I manually installed the latest version, and it doesn't like having both.
[12:13] <Jucato> uh oh....
[12:14] <Jucato> !info glib
[12:14] <ubotu> Package glib does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:14] <zorglu_> !info glib2
[12:14] <ubotu> Package glib2 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:14] <zorglu_> hue
[12:14] <Jucato> try not to mess with libc/glibc packages...
[12:14] <Maxdamantus> glibc-2.5.0-0exp1    glibc-2.5.0-0exp2    glibc-doc            glibc-doc-reference  glibc-pic            glib-java
[12:14] <Maxdamantus> :d
[12:14] <zorglu_> !info libglib2.0-0
[12:15] <ubotu> libglib2.0-0: The GLib library of C routines. In component main, is optional. Version 2.12.11-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 509 kB, installed size 1104 kB
[12:15] <zorglu_> there! :)
[12:15] <Jucato> heh :)
[12:16] <Maxdamantus> Hmm.. When I try removing that, it asks me if I want to remove.. Pretty much everything.
[12:16] <Maxdamantus> No, not quite everything.
[12:16] <Maxdamantus> Just about 100 lines or so.
[12:16] <Maxdamantus> 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 436 to remove and 44 not upgraded.
[12:16] <Maxdamantus> Need to get 0B/2105kB of archives.
[12:16] <Maxdamantus> After unpacking 2011MB disk space will be freed.
[12:16] <Jucato> what I was afraid of...
[12:17] <Maxdamantus> [root@maxdamantus (/download/xchat-2.8.2)] $ pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0
[12:17] <Maxdamantus> 2.12.9
[12:17] <Maxdamantus> ^^ That's what XChat doesn't like.
[12:17] <sweettooth> !dvdrip
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdrip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <Maxdamantus> Because that outputs 2.12.9, while it's actually 2.12.11
[12:17] <sweettooth> !info dvdrip
[12:17] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1083 kB, installed size 2572 kB
[12:18] <Jucato> Maxdamantus: try asking in #ubuntu maybe someone there would know better (given xchat isn't a KDE app...)
[12:18] <Maxdamantus> I'd think that maybe it wouldn't be so much of a problem in Ubuntu.
[12:18] <Maxdamantus> Since Ubuntu is GNOME, which is GTK based.
[12:19] <Jucato> but you are trying to compile something not in the repository, and it's complaining about a package version from the repository, so that would still be a problem
[12:21] <velo|gfx> ho
[12:22] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[12:22] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:24] <icecruncher> how can i virtualize an iso?
[12:25] <icecruncher> as in make the computer think a cd is in, you know virtual drive
[12:25] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: like mount an iso?
[12:25] <icecruncher> yes
[12:25] <Maxdamantus> icecruncher, what's the point of pretending it's a device?
[12:25] <icecruncher> in win, you call it virtual drive
[12:25] <Maxdamantus> mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /path/to/mount
[12:26] <icecruncher> thnks
[12:26] <Maxdamantus> I think.
[12:27] <eagles0513875> does anyone in here work for canonical
[12:27] <icecruncher> nd to make them is how?
[12:27] <Maxdamantus> Make what?
[12:27] <icecruncher> iso
[12:27] <Maxdamantus> Hmm..
[12:27] <Maxdamantus> I believe you can use k3m
[12:27] <eagles0513875> cant u make isos in k3b
[12:27] <Maxdamantus> k3b I mean
[12:27] <velo|gfx> no solution found with the allotted time.try harder [y/n]  <- whats that??
[12:27] <icecruncher> ah
[12:27] <Jucato> !iso | icecruncher
[12:27] <ubotu> icecruncher: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[12:28] <tacklebox> Hmm, is there a way to change the resolution before booting?
[12:28] <tacklebox> Screen res, that is.
[12:28] <icecruncher> thnks Jucato :)
[12:28] <tacklebox> As there is with the bootable disc.
[12:28] <Maxdamantus> tacklebox, if the monitor in peripherals doesn't change the default.
[12:28] <Maxdamantus> You can edit /etc/xorg/xorg.conf
[12:28] <velo|gfx> somebody know what that is?:no solution found with the allotted time.try harder [y/n]
[12:28] <Maxdamantus> Or whatever the file's called.
[12:29] <tacklebox> Well see, I'm having problems booting from the installation.
[12:29] <tacklebox> And am currently booted from cd.
[12:29] <tacklebox> In order even to boot from cd, I have to change the resolution from VGA to my monitor's native resolution.
[12:30] <tacklebox> So I'd have to change it at from the boot menu, yes?
[12:30] <Maxdamantus> Do you mean screen resolution as in:
[12:30] <crdlb> !away > jsk-away
[12:30] <Maxdamantus> 1024x768, 1280x1024, etc?
[12:30] <tacklebox> Yes
[12:30] <Maxdamantus> So you're on the LiveCD atm?
[12:30] <tacklebox> Yes
[12:31] <Maxdamantus> "sudo -s" in a terminal.
[12:31] <Maxdamantus> Then mount the root fs of your install.
[12:31] <tacklebox> How do I go about doing that?
[12:31] <Maxdamantus> Then from inside the fs you mounted, nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:31] <Maxdamantus> Hmm.. How many partitions do you have?
[12:32] <tacklebox> Several
[12:32] <Maxdamantus> Do you know which one contains the Kubuntu install?
[12:32] <tacklebox> One is Windows, one is for swap, and one for the install
[12:32] <eagles0513875> max cant he check using fdisk -l
[12:32] <tacklebox> I can find out the exact name with the partition program, yeah?
[12:32] <eagles0513875> tackle i think in shell u can use fdisk -l to check
[12:33] <Maxdamantus> Yea, just use fdisk -l
[12:33] <tacklebox> Yeah, that works.
[12:33] <Maxdamantus> The correct one will probably have a star on it.
[12:33] <Maxdamantus> Like:
[12:33] <Maxdamantus> /dev/sda1   *           1        8993    72236241   83  Linux
[12:33] <tacklebox> Hmm
[12:33] <Maxdamantus> Then "mkdir /mnt/tmp"
[12:33] <tacklebox> My one with a star is my Windows install, is that okay?
[12:33] <Maxdamantus> And then, fine out the device name of the drive (/dev/sd**)
[12:33] <tacklebox> Presumably since I installed it first
[12:34] <Maxdamantus> Nope.
[12:34] <Maxdamantus> Look for the one that says Linux
[12:34] <tacklebox> Yeah, I know that.
[12:34] <tacklebox> But it's okay that it doesn't have the star
[12:34] <Maxdamantus> Yea, shouldn't matter if you have it set up right.
[12:34] <Maxdamantus> It's the screen res you're having trouble with right? Not the booting of the kernel itself.
[12:35] <tacklebox> Well, the kernel itself won't boot
[12:35] <tacklebox> But I'm guessing it's due to the screen res
[12:35] <tacklebox> Since I can't boot from cd without first changing the screen res
[12:35] <Maxdamantus> What happens when you try loading it?
[12:35] <tacklebox> It freezes up and the monitor goes to standby
[12:36] <Maxdamantus> Hmm..
[12:36] <Maxdamantus> Tried ctrl + alt + f1?
[12:38] <zul_> alop
[12:41] <ubuntu_> hi
[12:42] <ports-> what program can i use to fix partition tables in kubuntu?
[12:42] <ardchoille> !qtparted
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <ardchoille> !partition
[12:42] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:42] <ports-> right now i have 4 partitions on hdd0... its a 300 gb drive... and they total 430gb.
[12:43] <ports-> lol well qtparted failed... it crashed when trying to read the disks
[12:47] <ardchoille> IT crashed?
[12:47] <ardchoille> I've never seen an app crash on *buntu
[12:51] <ports-> lol
[12:51] <ports-> well when it closes itself.. id call that a crash
[12:58] <ardchoille> ports-: Run it from a term and see if there's any error output.
[12:58] <fritz> please give me the webpage
[12:58] <fritz> for customizing kde again
[12:58] <fritz> :)
[12:58] <ports-> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[12:58] <ports->   Major opcode:  144
[12:58] <ports->   Minor opcode:  3
[12:58] <ports->   Resource id:  0x0
[12:58] <ports-> Failed to open device
[12:59] <ardchoille> fritz: http://www.kde-look.org  ?
[12:59] <ports-> oh joy... qtparted has no ntfs support
[12:59] <ardchoille> ports-: that has nothing to do with qtparted. that error is because xorg is trying to initialse wacom devices that you don't have. you can fix that easily by commenting out the wacom stuff in xorg.conf
[01:00] <ardchoille> ports-: Ah, ok.. well, I have never used ntfs, so I don't know.
[01:01] <ports-> ardchoille:  where do i edit xorg.conf
[01:02] <ports-> ardchoille: hdd1 is a sata 300gb.. i had 3 partitions. 100gb, 100gb, 80gb..
[01:02] <BlueDevil> while music is playing in amarok (using xine with alsa output) other programs can't output sound
[01:02] <BlueDevil> how can i "fix" it?
[01:02] <ports-> ardchoille:  i ran a dual boot of vista and xp.... and i tossed in a xp cd to format the xp off last night.... and it deleted my partition tables.
[01:03] <ardchoille> ports-: Yes, winblows doesn't play well with other OS's.
[01:03] <ports-> ive never had it wipe my partition tables
[01:04] <ports-> so now im trying to recover the 2nd 100gb partition... because it has a lot of my stuff for school which i really need
[01:04] <ardchoille> ports-: If you can pastebin your xorg.conf, I'll show you what to comment out to get rid of the baddevice error
[01:05] <ports-> http://rafb.net/p/VbY8Vo26.html
[01:06] <ardchoille> ports-: Comment out lines 138, 139 and 140 in that paste.. then restart x and the errors should disappear.
[01:07] <ports-> what do i comment with?  #
[01:07] <ardchoille> yes
[01:08] <ports-> Error: Invalid partition table - recursive partition on /dev/sda.
[01:08] <ports-> A bug has been detected in GNU Parted.  Refer to the web site of parted http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html for more informations of what could be useful for bug submitting!  Please email a bug report to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>containing at least the version (<IP_ADDRESS>) and the following message:  Assertion (disk != NULL) at ../../libparted/disk.c:1074 in function ped_disk_next_partition() failed.
[01:08] <ports-> No Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet.
[01:08] <ports-> Segmentation fault
[01:09] <eagles0513875> ports what u tryign to do wiht ur ntfs partition
[01:13] <ubuntu_> Ugh, back.
[01:13] <tacklebox> *
[01:16] <logixoul> Hi. Is there a way to exchange the channels for the left and the right speaker, systemwide?
[01:18] <eagles0513875> what u mean log
[01:18] <eagles0513875> logixoul: check in the mixer dude
[01:18] <eagles0513875> at the bottom there is one
[01:19] <logixoul> eagles0513875: hm, no. KMix doesn't seem to have the option.
[01:19] <logixoul> there *is* a slider at the bottom, but it's for balance
[01:20] <logixoul> what I want is: sent the signal for the left speaker to the right one and vice versa
[01:20] <eagles0513875> hummmm
[01:21] <eagles0513875> have u taken a look in sound system in the system setting
[01:22] <logixoul> eagles0513875: yes, it isn't there either :(
[01:22] <eagles0513875> :( i dunno waht to tell u dude
[01:22] <cathal> anyone know how to transfer mp3's from kbuntu to my iriver, iv tryed ifpgui but cant get it to pick up my iriver
[01:22] <eagles0513875> cathal: have u tried in amarok
[01:22] <eagles0513875> wait r u using feisty or edgy
[01:23] <eagles0513875> how did u do that
[01:23] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:23] <eagles0513875> im using feisty x86_64
[01:23] <logixoul> how did I do what? :)
[01:24] <eagles0513875> where it says ur name in green then what ur using
[01:24] <logixoul> heh
[01:24] <eagles0513875> how did u do that lol
[01:24] <logixoul> you just write "/me is a skinny bastard"
[01:24] <logixoul> it's recognized by your client as an action
[01:24] <logixoul> :p
[01:26] <eagles0513875> log i know they have kde4 pkgs in the repository
[01:26] <ardchoille> *sich , time to drag out my ignore list
[01:26] <eagles0513875> whoe u ignoring ard
[01:27] <logixoul> "drag out"? :)
[01:27] <eagles0513875> in honesty log i think they r skipping kde 3.5 and goign stright to 4 in gutsy
[01:27] <eagles0513875> ill let u know once i do a dist upgrade to the test release
[01:27] <ardchoille> no, kde4 won't be default in gutsy
[01:27] <eagles0513875> kde 3.5 then
[01:27] <logixoul> eagles0513875: nope, 3.5.7/8 will be in gutsy - it's stable and proven, unlike 4.0
[01:27] <logixoul> 4 will be optional
[01:28] <ardchoille> I think gutsy will have kde 3.5 and the repos will have packages so you can install 4.0 side-by-side
[01:28] <eagles0513875> ahhh ok
[01:28] <dasnipa`> eagles0513875: i doubt kde4 will be ready in time for gutsy
[01:28] <eagles0513875> lol u never know
[01:28] <dasnipa`> nah itll be in beta at best
[01:28] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:28] <eagles0513875> j/w how many of u guys have a laptop with a broadcom wireless card in it
[01:28] <logixoul> dasnipa`: Gutsy is released 5 days before KDE 4.0.
[01:28] <dasnipa`> which might make the release as logixoul as an optional pack
[01:29] <eagles0513875> ouch
[01:29] <dasnipa`> logixoul: ouch. that is unfortunate
[01:29] <logixoul> dasnipa`: which means the final version of KDE 4.0 will be included on the installation media
[01:29] <eagles0513875> isnt that schedule tenative cuz for feisty they said +- 5 days
[01:29] <logixoul> (since there's always a 1-week period left for packaging)
[01:29] <dasnipa`> logixoul: nice.
[01:29] <logixoul> yep.
[01:29] <eagles0513875> what u guys think about this guys http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices reverse engineered broadcom linux driver since they refuse to release any linux drivers
[01:29] <dasnipa`> KDE4 sounds sweet everything ive heard
[01:30] <eagles0513875> same here
[01:30] <logixoul> of course ;)
[01:30] <eagles0513875> i honestly hope when they release gutsy they will have that reverse engineered wifi driver included in it
[01:30] <logixoul> eagles0513875: isn't this what the GPL violation fiasco was about?
[01:30] <blizzzek> what is device sr0 or sr1 usually?
[01:30] <dasnipa`> doubt it
[01:30] <eagles0513875> i dunno
[01:30] <eagles0513875> broadcom hasnt said anything yet bout it
[01:31] <logixoul> blizzzek: hmm, the serial ports maybe?
[01:31] <dasnipa`> eagles0513875: IF broadcom comments that they dont mind... then maybe
[01:31] <blizzzek> logixoul: that would be an explanation
[01:32] <eagles0513875> basically what they did from what i have read
[01:32] <icecruncher> hi
[01:32] <logixoul> blizzzek: ah, no. google says "SATA and new PATA optical drives".
[01:32] <eagles0513875> is they took the driver for windows apart and then rewrote it in c
[01:32] <blizzzek> logixoul: thx... thats kinda weird
[01:32] <logixoul> right
[01:33] <blizzzek> logixoul: i have no such devices but there are i/o errors in dmesg
[01:33] <eagles0513875> is rewriting a driver in a different language still in violation of the gpl
[01:33] <logixoul> dunno
[01:33] <logixoul> blizzzek: ^
[01:33] <logixoul> eagles0513875: no, unless it's based on reverse engineered knowledge...
[01:33] <blizzzek> i should not look at this
[01:34] <eagles0513875> what do u mean
[01:34] <dominion> hello I just installed kubuntu.. and can't get my screen to display the correct resolution
[01:34] <logixoul> eagles0513875: reverse engineering a proprietary driver is generally illegal
[01:35] <eagles0513875> ok
[01:35] <dominion> can someone help?
[01:35] <eagles0513875> just ask ur question dominion
[01:35] <logixoul> dominion: kcontrol->peripherals->monitor
[01:35] <logixoul> eagles0513875: he did
[01:35] <dominion> I have a nvidia 7600GT and a dell2405fpw (which wasn't detected)
[01:36] <eagles0513875> so u dont have anything showing up on ur screen
[01:36] <dominion> the monitor isn't on the list either
[01:36] <dominion> It's running at 1024*768
[01:36] <eagles0513875> didu order ur dell machine with kubuntu
[01:36] <logixoul> dominion: then ask in #xorg for directions as to editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually
[01:36] <dominion> no.. it's my home built PC
[01:36] <eagles0513875> is this the feisty release
[01:36] <dominion> yes feisty AMD64
[01:37] <alvyn> dominion: type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg at terminal
[01:37] <dominion> ok... lemme try
[01:37] <alvyn> after that restart X server
[01:37] <dominion> log out and in right to restart X server?
[01:38] <dominion> do I select Vesa?
[01:38] <eagles0513875> or u hit ctrl+shit+alt and backspace u can do it that way too to restart x
[01:38] <eagles0513875> logixoul: this is technically what they did
[01:38] <eagles0513875> http://bcm-specs.sipsolutions.net/ReverseEngineeringProcess
[01:38] <dominion> I will select VESA
[01:39] <logixoul> eagles0513875: yes, that is one of the reasons it was so controversial.
[01:39] <dominion> Oh... there is NV maybe I should select that?
[01:39] <logixoul> yes.
[01:39] <eagles0513875> how come then the site hasent gone down and if u look on the first link i showed u they r still developing new stuff
[01:39] <eagles0513875> Kprofthreat: was it u that had trouble getting stuff off ur ntfs partition
[01:39] <logixoul> eagles0513875: they haven't been prosecuted, apparently.
[01:40] <Kprofthreat> eagles0513875: Yes. I fixed it now.
[01:40] <logixoul> dominion: nv is the unaccelerated FOSS driver, nvidia is the accelerated official closed driver
[01:40] <Kprofthreat> eagles0513875: I tried getting an early start on Gentoo, but it crashed on me. >=[
[01:40] <Kprofthreat> So, now I go away for about 12 hours
[01:40] <eagles0513875> honestly i think broadcom doesnt care i think they r glad that someone is developing a linux driver cuz i saw that there was a partition that was goign round trying to petition them but they didnt want to do anything
[01:40] <logixoul> probably.
[01:41] <dominion> I have to specify amount of kB of memory. it has 256mb. so will I go with 256*1024?
[01:41] <eagles0513875> these companies that dont support linux or dont provide good support really piss me off
[01:42] <eagles0513875> leavethe card as is dude
[01:42] <logixoul> dominion: yes, I think so
[01:42] <eagles0513875> u dont need to shar any ram with it
[01:43] <dominion> Ok
[01:43] <eagles0513875> do u think if i submit that to someone at canonical they would release it with gutsy
[01:43] <dominion> use kernel frame buffer?
[01:43] <logixoul> dominion: I think you should answer 'no' here.
[01:44] <dominion> ok. going with no
[01:44] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[01:44] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:44] <t1g3r> !eclipse
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <t1g3r> i love your bot :D
[01:44] <lousygarua> i've recently installed kdebase and sometimes apps like firefox or gnome-system-monitor just won't work.. why's that?? is it my old computer?
[01:45] <logixoul> lousygarua: "won't work"?
[01:45] <eagles0513875> no
[01:45] <dasnipa`> t1g3r: 'your' bot is pretty generic... its the bot that is owned/maintained by ubuntu admins its on all the official chans
[01:45] <eagles0513875> gnome system montior wont work cuz kubuntu is kde based
[01:45] <logixoul> eagles0513875: that doesn't make sense you know.
[01:45] <lousygarua> logixoul: i live my computer for the night, and when i get back adn try to launch firefox it just does its funny bouncing icon and then won't start, withotu any errors or anything.. weird
[01:46] <logixoul> lousygarua: try launching firefox from a terminal, see if it outputs any messages
[01:46] <dasnipa`> eagles0513875: there are many things wrong with what you said
[01:46] <ardchoille> lousygarua: How did you install firefox?
[01:46] <eagles0513875> ill shut up
[01:46] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:46] <logixoul> eagles0513875: how old are you?
[01:46] <eagles0513875> 20
[01:47] <logixoul> k
[01:47] <dasnipa`> kubuntu isnt 'kde based' and just because an app is designed to integrate with KDE, or gnome doesnt make it exclusive to that WM
[01:47] <lousygarua> ardchoille: it came with ubuntu, which is the original distro i installed.. i'll try to debug it abit later
[01:47] <eagles0513875> lol im going through a tough patch atm and im just doing alot of thinking bout that and i have to admit im still quite a noob when it comes to linux but ever since i got on kubuntu ive learned tons
[01:48] <dominion> It worked... thanks everyone... I now have native resolution on my LCD :D
[01:48] <logixoul> dasnipa`: well, kubuntu's admin tools are built on KDE tech, and the default apps are KDE ones, so it can be said Kubuntu is 'kde based' actually.
[01:48] <logixoul> dominion: nice ;)
[01:49] <dominion> now to try and get compiz fusion going. Any recommendations for a how to guide suited for Nvida hardware?
[01:49] <ardchoille> kubuntu is ubuntu-based and uses kde as its default desktop.
[01:49] <icecruncher> !iso
[01:49] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[01:49] <eagles0513875> !nvidia
[01:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:49] <dasnipa`> logixoul: well... thats still not quite the way to put it... because that implies that hierarchically kubuntu would have to be an abstraction of the WM, where the wm is clearly higher level than an OS level
[01:49] <icecruncher> how can I make an ISO? from a bunch of folders?
[01:50] <eagles0513875> icecruncher: use k3b
[01:50] <logixoul> ardchoille: which is the same as "kubuntu is kde-based and uses ubuntu as its technological foundation" ;)
[01:50] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: not burning onto a cd, it wont work
[01:50] <ardchoille> logixoul: No, it's not the same. You're confusing the underlying distro with the desktop environment.
[01:50] <logixoul> ok, fair enough.
[01:51] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: I don't want to burn it, just make it, then moung it
[01:51] <dasnipa`> hardware < bootstrap < kernal < OS < window manage < gui apps
[01:51] <eagles0513875> have u tried looking in apt and search for iso
[01:51] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: no
[01:51] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: well, now it is. lol
[01:52] <ardchoille>  hardware < bootstrap < kernal < OS < desktop environment/window manage < gui apps  kde is not a wm, it's a desktop environment, kde uses kwin as its wm.
[01:52] <eagles0513875> try that or u can do apt-cache iso in shell
[01:52] <dasnipa`> ardchoille: true... i missed that stuf
[01:52] <dasnipa`> step*
[01:52] <ardchoille> I know lots of people who install kubuntu but don't use any kde apps.
[01:53] <dominion> where is the restricted device manager ?
[01:53] <eagles0513875> wow i have so many pkgs to upgrade lol
[01:53] <ardchoille> dominion: I think that is a gtk2 app (gnome desktop)
[01:53] <eagles0513875> just so i can test gutsy
[01:53] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: it's Kiso
[01:53] <crdlb> dominion, on ubuntu :/
[01:54] <eagles0513875> ok hope it works for ya icecruncher
[01:54] <dasnipa`> eagles0513875: id recommend virtualizing gutsy instead of upgrading on your main box
[01:54] <eagles0513875> i dont have anything on here i need
[01:54] <eagles0513875> all my music i have is on my windows partition
[01:54] <rajkalyan> hey eaglses
[01:54] <eagles0513875> sup rajkalyan
[01:55] <rajkalyan> i need help
[01:55] <dominion> Ok.. I'm just trying to follow the guide on installing the nvidia binary driver (so I can compiz fusion). what's the kubuntu alternative way?
[01:55] <eagles0513875> whats wrong raj
[01:55] <dasnipa`> okay. have at it... im just saying... a nice way of doing it is with virtualization if you were to want to not risk crashing your system
[01:55] <rajkalyan> my pc ceashing
[01:55] <rajkalyan> crashes a lot
[01:55] <eagles0513875> dasnipa`: ive done it so many times lol im used to it
[01:55] <eagles0513875> how does it crash
[01:55] <eagles0513875> adn what r u doing when it crashes
[01:55] <rajkalyan> it just stop
[01:55] <rajkalyan> s
[01:55] <rajkalyan> and shuts dowj
[01:55] <rajkalyan> n
[01:56] <eagles0513875> its a laptop right
[01:56] <rajkalyan> yes
[01:56] <rajkalyan> kubuntu
[01:56] <rajkalyan> edgy
[01:56] <dasnipa`> rajkalyan: sounds like a heat problem did you do anything to your processor? and are its fans running?
[01:56] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Good call
[01:56] <rajkalyan> yes
[01:56] <eagles0513875> make sure ur laptop is getting enough cooling
[01:56] <rajkalyan> Nothing with the processor
[01:56] <rajkalyan> ok
[01:56] <eagles0513875> and if its not then get a cooling pad
[01:56] <rajkalyan> it i
[01:56] <rajkalyan> s
[01:57] <eagles0513875> then r the fans running
[01:57] <rajkalyan> theyre expensive
[01:57] <rajkalyan> yes
[01:57] <eagles0513875> both fans if u have 2 one for intake one for exhaust
[01:57] <dasnipa`> rajkalyan: it runs fine right? and shuts down with no warnings?
[01:57] <rajkalyan> yes both
[01:57] <rajkalyan> yes
[01:57] <rajkalyan> i cant rebot though
[01:57] <rajkalyan> reboot
[01:57] <dasnipa`> yeah thats gotta be heat...
[01:57] <rajkalyan> oh
[01:57] <rajkalyan> my intake is on the side
[01:58] <rajkalyan> next to me power adapter'
[01:58] <eagles0513875> there r also fans on the underside of it too
[01:58] <rajkalyan> really
[01:58] <rajkalyan> o yeah
[01:58] <dasnipa`> heh
[01:58] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:58] <dasnipa`> yeah those are kinda important
[01:58] <rajkalyan> the outake is in the bsck
[01:58] <eagles0513875> if those rnt getting enough air ur going to need to get a cooling pad
[01:58] <rajkalyan> my laps on a desk
[01:58] <eagles0513875> i have bout 2 outtakes
[01:58] <rajkalyan> me too
[01:58] <rajkalyan> brbr
[01:58] <rajkalyan> i gott aeat
[01:58] <eagles0513875> is it raised and the fans underneath getting enough air
[02:00] <eagles0513875> i think for me the thing that generates the most heat is my monitor since its a bright screen
[02:01] <rockets> If I do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade its not going to put me in gutsy alpha right
[02:02] <eagles0513875> nope
[02:02] <eagles0513875> cuz u dont have the repositories in ur source lsit
[02:02] <eagles0513875> what version r u upgrading from
[02:02] <eagles0513875> and also all it will do is upgrade any pkgs that need to be upgraded
[02:02] <eagles0513875> just like typing upgrade as well
[02:02] <ardchoille> rockets: No, not until you put gutsy sources in your sources.list.
[02:02] <rockets> i have feisty already. its just that if you do regular apt-get upgrade it wont install kernel upgrades, etc
[02:02] <rockets> its a fresh kubuntu install
[02:03] <eagles0513875> ok
[02:03] <rockets> I could use adept updater
[02:03] <rockets> but honestly
[02:03] <rockets> adept sucks
[02:03] <eagles0513875> i always use dist-upgrade cuz it gets all the upgradeable pkgs
[02:03] <eagles0513875> lol
[02:03] <eagles0513875> not only kernel updates but all the others too so that is how i upgrade mine
[02:03] <rockets> but once gutsy is out wont dist-upgrade get you gutsy?
[02:03] <eagles0513875> no
[02:03] <eagles0513875> like was said before u would have to add the gutsy repositories
[02:03] <rockets> I thought it would . . .
[02:04] <eagles0513875> to ur source list
[02:04] <rockets> hmm.
[02:04] <rockets> ok
[02:04] <eagles0513875> wait
[02:04] <eagles0513875> i could be wrong am i right though that once gutsy is released anyone that it wont upgrade the pkgs unless u add the repositories
[02:04] <Hobbsee> hiya eagles0513875
[02:04] <rockets> Well whatever, its ok
[02:04] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: you're correct
[02:05] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Right, you have to add the repos for an apt-get upgrade to upgrade to the next release. otherwise it just updates the kernel.
[02:05] <rockets> I typically upgrade to the next release the day it comes out anyway
[02:05] <eagles0513875> book mark this then rockets
[02:05] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[02:05] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:05] <rockets> eagles0513875: i already use sourceomatic
[02:05] <eagles0513875> lol ok
[02:05] <rockets> anyway I don't upgrade literally
[02:05] <rockets> i do a fresh install off cd
[02:06] <rockets> Upgrading via apt to the next release version makes me paranoid their will be junk left on my system. Bad habit left over from windows upgrade installs I guess.
[02:06] <rockets> Windows upgrade installs always left TONS of junk on your system from the last OS version
[02:06] <ardchoille> rockets: Me too, and I have master scripts that update and tweak everything.. requires me to be in front of the computer for a total of about 10 minutes when I do a fresh install.
[02:07] <rockets> hmm
[02:07] <rockets> yeah i should really write a script to make all the changes I ALWAYS spend 45 minutes making after each install
[02:07] <rockets> like ndiswrapper for example
[02:07] <rockets> and concurrency = shell
[02:07] <rockets> etc
[02:07] <rockets> I did just "upgrade" to kubuntu though
[02:08] <rockets> I've been using regular Ubuntu for a long time and thought I'd give kubuntu a chance.
[02:08] <ardchoille> rockets: Like installing apps, tweaking xorg/fstab/etc, defining themes/wallpapers/icons. all that stuff.
[02:08] <rockets> For whatever reason, it feels faster to me
[02:08] <rajkalyan> how do you install icons
[02:09] <ardchoille> rajkalyan: Unpack an icon theme into ~/.icons (for a single user) or into /usr/share/icons (system wide install)
[02:10] <rockets> I don't get why kubuntu doesnt have a shortcut to kcontrol anywhere though
[02:10] <rockets> btw whats the Kubuntu equivalent of gksu
[02:10] <Hoyt> kdesu
[02:10] <rockets> ty Hoyt
[02:11] <ardchoille> rockets: You can add a menu item for kcontrol
[02:11] <rockets> I need to find a good KDE theme too. I like the overall look of the system but not the theme/colors themselves
[02:12] <ardchoille> rockets: http://www.kde-look.org
[02:12] <ardchoille> That should keep you busy ;)
[02:12] <rockets> ardchoille: is there an equivalent of alacarte for Kubuntu?
[02:12] <ardchoille> rockets: kmenuedit
[02:12] <addyk> pm eagles0513875
[02:12] <addyk> :)
[02:12] <rockets> ardchoille: somehow i knew it was going to be called kmenuedit
[02:13] <rockets> and now i feel dumb
[02:13] <ardchoille> rockets: Or, right click the kmenu button and choose from the list
[02:13] <zorglu_> root      9968  1.8 16.4<PHONE_NUMBER>0 ?        Ss   11:23   3:05 python /tmp/kde-root/adept_managerXz43Ka.tmp-extract/dist-upgrade.py --frontend DistUpgradeViewKDE <- moauoauoua scripting language are nice :) 800mbyte of virtual and 72mbyte of resident
[02:16] <rockets> Great, KDE's power manager thinks my battery is "not present"
[02:16] <rockets> it *IS* present
[02:17] <eagles0513875> lol
[02:17] <DjDarkman> Hy I`m having problems setting up my laptops DVD Writer mountig, can someome help me with this?
[02:17] <eagles0513875> werent there some issues when feisty came out
[02:17] <icecruncher> I love making driver modules
[02:18] <icecruncher> DjDarkman: same here with a satalite pro
[02:19] <DjDarkman> I just want to make it just mount when I put in a CD and unmount when I eject, nothing extra
[02:19] <icecruncher> DjDarkman: mine won't even read the cd lol
[02:19] <icecruncher> DjDarkman: idk, sorry
[02:19] <DjDarkman> neighter mine...but I can write with it
[02:23] <icecruncher> DjDarkman: wierd
[02:24] <velo|gfx> somebody experienced with broadcom wlan controllers?
[02:24] <DjDarkman> man I just can`t figure out why this doesn`t want to work, on my other PC it works fine
[02:24] <hilary> (pokes eagles0513875) =)
[02:24] <DjDarkman> velo|gfx: what type?
[02:24] <velo|gfx> and kubuntu 7.04 ?
[02:24] <velo|gfx> BCM4306
[02:24] <DjDarkman> velo|gfx: wait a bit
[02:24] <velo|gfx> 802.11 b/g
[02:24] <eagles0513875> hey hilary
[02:24] <eagles0513875> velo i got a hookup for ya
[02:24] <hilary> hey =) you ok?
[02:24] <eagles0513875> http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[02:24] <velo|gfx> he found it but i cant use it
[02:24] <eagles0513875> i have that same card
[02:25] <eagles0513875> y cant u
[02:25] <velo|gfx> eagles0513875 : and does it work?
[02:25] <eagles0513875> i havent set it up yet
[02:25] <eagles0513875> and where i am doesnt have wireless to test it
[02:25] <eagles0513875> not bad hilary is msn messenger workign now
[02:25] <hilary> nope! :(
[02:26] <daquino>  why is adept_installer so slow
[02:26] <eagles0513875> can u shoot me a pm hil plz
[02:26] <hilary> ok
[02:26] <DjDarkman> hmmm can`t find it
[02:26] <DjDarkman> but I have it saved on my harddirve
[02:26] <ardchoille> hilary: You know you can use kopete to connect with msn messenging, right?
[02:27] <rockets> God I love medibuntu
[02:27] <eagles0513875> ard she was trying that the other day it wasnt working for her
[02:27] <eagles0513875> !register | hilary
[02:27] <ubotu> hilary: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:27] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Ah, ok.
[02:27] <DjDarkman> velo|gfx: you here?
[02:27] <DjDarkman> velo|gfx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177&highlight=Wireless+BCM4318+AirForce+Card  this howto worked for me
[02:27] <eagles0513875> ard only thing i can think of is pidgin
[02:28] <ardchoille> eagles0513875 , hilary: Well, I use kopete to talk with my friends who use msn messenger.
[02:28] <velo|gfx> thy DjDarkman!
[02:28] <eagles0513875> for some reason those she kept getting an error msg
[02:28] <ardchoille> I use it for Yahoo, AOL, msn, icq
[02:28] <eagles0513875> i use pidgin which is gaim replacement and it does the same thing
[02:28] <hilary> I'm struggling to register here =S lolz give me a sec
[02:29] <eagles0513875> ok lol
[02:29] <DjDarkman> velo|gfx: np, hope it workes for you too, if you don`t understand something you can ask me, btw use the windows driver you got with your card
[02:29] <ardchoille> hilary: /msg nickserv help register
[02:34] <zorglu_> q. i just upgraded to feisty and now i got a 'line' in the middle of each button, a kind of coloring which make the button lower part darker than the upper part. i know it is possible to remove it by configuration because i already done it in edgy. my issue is i dont remember the name of the option, any suggestion on how to do that ?
[02:35] <velo|gfx> DjDarkman : are you there?
[02:35] <DjDarkman> velo|gfx: yes
[02:35] <velo|gfx> how did you installed ndiswrapper? without internet?
[02:35] <insector> ciao a tutti
[02:35] <hilary123x> after about 10 minutes of feeling stupid about how to register
[02:36] <velo|gfx> or did you connected direct?
[02:36] <hilary123x> I think I have just managed it :D hurrah :D
[02:36] <insector> c' qualche italiano che pu aiutarmi?
[02:36] <eagles0513875> hil did u get my pm
[02:36] <DjDarkman> velo|gfx: with internet
[02:36] <velo|gfx> mhm k ok have to finde some lan cable =) thx
[02:37] <icecruncher> DjDarkman: get any help yet
[02:37] <DjDarkman> icecruncher: well I copied and modified my PC`s fstab entry hopefully it should work on my laptop too
[02:38] <puppetmaster> Hello everyone
[02:38] <DjDarkman> just a silly question
[02:38] <puppetmaster> I need a downloader like IDM in linux
[02:38] <DjDarkman> is it a bad thing to write on CD/DVD someting from a fat32 partition in linux?
[02:38] <puppetmaster> What will it be?
[02:39] <icecruncher> DjDarkman: lol
[02:39] <puppetmaster> Anyone?
[02:40] <icecruncher> !patience | puppetmaster
[02:40] <ubotu> puppetmaster: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:40] <dominion> does anyone know if opera configuration files are the same between windows and linux? Would I be able to copy them across? Or do I have to adjust everything from scratch?
[02:40] <DjDarkman> icecruncher: this is not funny I need fat 32 for ms windows compatibility
[02:40] <icecruncher> DjDarkman: jk
[02:40] <puppetmaster> I'm soo sorry but it's a simple question
[02:41] <mat1980> puppetmaster: what is IDM?
[02:42] <puppetmaster> Internet Download Manager
[02:42] <puppetmaster> it's a great download program
[02:44] <zorglu_> q. i just upgraded to feisty and now i got a 'line' in the middle of each button, a kind of coloring which make the button lower part darker than the upper part. i know it is possible to remove it by configuration because i already done it in edgy. my issue is i dont remember the name of the option, any suggestion on the name/path of this option ?
[02:44] <icecruncher> puppetmaster: oh, in firefox, get downthemall
[02:45] <puppetmaster> ???
[02:45] <blubbi> hi all
[02:45] <icecruncher> puppetmaster: it's a firefox addon
[02:45] <blubbi> can enybode help me to install a AWE64 ISA Sound card
[02:46] <puppetmaster> I'll search for it and I'll get back to you
[02:46] <blubbi> the problem is that it is a ISA card and I dont know how to install ISA cards
[02:47] <aroo> why are you still using an isa card
[02:48] <DjDarkman> mount is ignorent amd messed up, how can I make it come to it`s senses?
[02:49] <DjDarkman> how can I make it forget that I switched off the power of my usb dvd writer?
[02:50] <blubbi> aroo: its an old PC
[02:50] <blubbi> and the card is still great
[02:52] <DjDarkman> can someone recomend me a good partitioner program?
[02:52] <blubbi> by the way.. where do I tell ubuntu to autoload modules... in gentoo I have /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6
[02:52] <aroo> DjDarkman: gparted, qtparted
[02:52] <blubbi> where I can put modules which should be loaded on startup
[02:53] <icecruncher> DjDarkman: qtparted
[02:54] <icecruncher> puppetmaster: found it yet?
[02:56] <velo|gfx> DjDarkman : still there? =9
[02:57] <DjDarkman> yeah velo|gfx
[02:57] <icecruncher> how is dolphin better? i heard from someone that it ws somehow way better
[02:57] <velo|gfx> could you post that link one more time? my FF just sucked up :(
[02:57] <DjDarkman> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177&highlight=Wireless+BCM4318+AirForce+Card
[02:57] <DjDarkman> use opera :)
[02:57] <DjDarkman> or konqueror
[02:58] <icecruncher> no firefox rules
[02:58] <icecruncher> lol
[02:59] <velo|gfx> thx
[03:00] <puppetmaster> yes I found it
[03:00] <puppetmaster> thanks alot
[03:00] <puppetmaster> but I wanted something more like Idm
[03:00] <puppetmaster> it has so many feetures
[03:01] <icecruncher> puppetmaster: what an idm?
[03:01] <icecruncher> puppetmaster: use Kget
[03:01] <puppetmaster> Internet Download Manager
[03:01] <icecruncher> ah
[03:01] <puppetmaster> What's so great about idm is
[03:01] <khaije1> soooo........
[03:02] <khaije1> where do i put my virtual machines....
[03:02] <khaije1> ?
[03:02] <puppetmaster> he shutdown my pc after finished
[03:02] <puppetmaster> it has a schedule has so many great thing
[03:04] <ardchoille> puppetmaster: kget can shutdown after downloads are finished :)
[03:06] <icecruncher> ok, something crazy...
[03:06] <icecruncher> can anyone tell me how to set up konversation to have a prive conversation as soon as it starts? (like ubotu for ex.)
[03:06] <puppetmaster> I'll try it
[03:06] <icecruncher> *privat
[03:07] <zorglu_> icecruncher: see #konversation
[03:07] <icecruncher> thks, lol
[03:07] <puppetmaster> No, thnks to u
[03:08] <icecruncher> puppetmaster: np
[03:09] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[03:09] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:10] <Jucato> icecruncher: Connection -> Server List -> Edit -> Commands -> in the text field you can put: /query ubotu
[03:11] <velo|gfx> hmmm strange
[03:12] <velo|gfx> if i try to restart kubuntu something strange happens. my monitor turn off but my computer did not restart
[03:12] <velo|gfx> somebody know how it happens?
[03:12] <icecruncher> if I wanna take out my usb drive, is it better to safely remove"?
[03:13] <mat1980> icecruncher: it's a good thing to do
[03:13] <icecruncher> mat1980: but why?
[03:14] <mat1980> icecruncher: because Linux doesn't write changes on the drive immediately. It keeps changes on ram, untill you sync or umount.
[03:15] <icecruncher> mat1980: thnks
[03:15] <Jucato> icecruncher: it's the wise/good thing to do on any OS, Linux or Windows
[03:16] <icecruncher> Jucato: true, but I've been told that it doesn't kill th usb, and doesn't matter
[03:16] <Jucato> it may not kill the USB, but it may ruin some files some times, afaik
[03:17] <icecruncher> :)
[03:17] <mat1980> icecruncher: yes if's not safe your hour disk, is safe for your data
[03:18] <icecruncher> ok, something else....:)
[03:18] <icecruncher> what to do when my usb is in read only?
[03:19] <icecruncher> I didn't set it to that
[03:20] <logixoul> icecruncher: check the perms of /media/nameofdevice
[03:21] <puppetmaster> What's wrong with rmvb files?
[03:21] <puppetmaster> file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/CONAN Doyle
[03:21] <puppetmaster> file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/0060763280.pdf
[03:21] <puppetmaster> file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/Dangerous Google - Searching For Secrets.pdf
[03:21] <puppetmaster> file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/Music and Lyrics DVDRiP XViD [WwW.TT1TT.NeT] .txt
[03:21] <puppetmaster> file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/Novel Collection 6.exe
[03:21] <logixoul> huh?
[03:21] <puppetmaster> file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/+O'reilly 2006 - Mind Performance Hacks.pdf
[03:21] <puppetmaster> file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/+O'reilly - Mind Hacks [2005] .pdf
[03:21] <puppetmaster> file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/Powerful.Sleep.Secrets.Of.The.Inner.Sleep.Clock.pdf
[03:21] <puppetmaster> file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/The.Art.of.Intrusion.pdf
[03:21] <puppetmaster> sorry
[03:21] <logixoul> heh
[03:21] <puppetmaster> I can't run it on VLC?
[03:22] <puppetmaster>  and real player is very slowly
[03:22] <puppetmaster> What should I do?
[03:22] <icecruncher> !paste | puppetmaster
[03:22] <ubotu> puppetmaster: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:22] <logixoul> puppetmaster: try kaffeine
[03:23] <puppetmaster> it didn't work on it also
[03:23] <zorglu_> q. i just upgraded to feisty and now i got a 'line' in the middle of each button, a kind of coloring which make the button lower part darker than the upper part. i know it is possible to remove it by configuration because i already done it in edgy. my issue is i dont remember the name of the option, any suggestion on the name/path of this option ?
[03:24] <logixoul> haha
[03:24] <logixoul> zorglu_: it's supposed to look like a cool lightning effect. just switch from polyester to plastik to get rid of it
[03:24] <zorglu_> logixoul: ok trying
[03:24] <logixoul> zorglu_: or, alternatively, change the button type from "glass" to "inverted" or "normal" in the polyester options
[03:25] <torch> hi all, is it possible to extract the installation .iso file to an USB device and boot/install from that USB device?
[03:25] <logixoul> zorglu_: kcontrol->appearance->style
[03:25] <logixoul> !usb
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <zorglu_> logixoul: did the job, thanks :)
[03:26] <logixoul> np
[03:26] <velo|gfx> after an update ive got 2 diffrent kubuntu versions on grub! with endings 15 and 16
[03:27] <velo|gfx> whats wrong?
[03:27] <logixoul> velo|gfx: nothing
[03:27] <logixoul> velo|gfx: 15 is the old version
[03:27] <logixoul> velo|gfx: it's still there just in case the new one fails
[03:27] <velo|gfx> mhm
[03:27] <velo|gfx> k
[03:27] <velo|gfx> so i sould just to start the new one
[03:27] <velo|gfx> -to
[03:27] <silver_> does anybody knows how to make 3D support on video trindent cyber blade ?
[03:28] <velo|gfx> thx :)
[03:29] <romudog> Linux Pwnz All.
[03:30] <mat1980> icecruncher: is your disk mounted read-only, or have you no permission? what is the output of mount?
[03:30] <dominion> what would cause a "returned error code(1)" when I attempt "sudo apt-get update"?
[03:31] <icecruncher> mat1980: I didn't try to mount it man
[03:31] <dominion> actually it says "Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"
[03:31] <icecruncher> mat1980: I'll try now, but I couldn't format in qtparted
[03:31] <mat1980> icecruncher: system do it automatically. You have to know how.
[03:31] <icecruncher> mat1980: pls explain
[03:33] <mat1980> icecruncher: when you plug in a drive in the usb, system mounts it. You have to know what option it uses.
[03:33] <Darkrift411> how do i install an older version of firefox?
[03:33] <Darkrift411> can i do it with apt?
[03:33] <Darkrift411> or do i have to build it
[03:33] <icecruncher> mat1980: what option
[03:33] <icecruncher> ?
[03:34] <mat1980> icecruncher: mount options. When you mount something you can give some option. But what does format concern? I havn't understood what you are tring to do with gparted.
[03:35] <icecruncher> mat1980: I'm trying to format my disk, but It won't let me read it format it whatever
[03:37] <mat1980> icecruncher: sorry... can't translate the second part of your sentence.
[03:38] <dominion> ice cruncher is unable to read or format.
[03:38] <dominion> I think that's ice is a saying.
[03:38] <icecruncher> mat1980: as in I cannot make any changes to the disk, nor can I acess tit's content :)
[03:38] <icecruncher> yep
[03:38] <icecruncher> *it's
[03:38] <dominion> tit's   :P
[03:38] <icecruncher> sorry
[03:39] <mat1980> mat1980: thanks :) now I've understood :)
[03:40] <mat1980> icecruncher: well... plug in the drive, and give use the output of dmesg
[03:41] <dominion> why would this error occur? "
[03:41] <dominion> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[03:41] <dominion> Err http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Packages
[03:41] <dominion>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[03:41] <dominion> It's coming from a reliable server I imagine. And I have tried the update many times.. but it's always the same error.
[03:42] <dominion> it's really frustrating.. I just want to install stuff, and I can't get any further.
[03:42] <puppetmaster> how to mount a .daa cd?
[03:43] <puppetmaster> how to mount a .daa cd image ?
[03:44] <icecruncher> mat1980: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27414/
[03:47] <mat1980> icecruncher: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda ?
[03:49] <snake_> i did apt-get autoremove and now i have no sound and i can not play videos in browsers
[03:53] <_4strO> snake_: can you paste the return of this command : cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep remove
[03:54] <_4strO> or simply look what it was removed
[03:54] <BluesKaj> Morning all :)
[03:55] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: good evenig :)
[03:56] <icecruncher> ah, my spelling is killing me
[03:56] <icecruncher> good evening
[03:56] <polopolo> Can I come here for mozilla Thunderbird questions?
[03:57] <snake_> _4strO: here is the return http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27420/
[03:58] <icecruncher> polopolo: you can try
[03:58] <_4strO> snake_: what time is it ?
[03:58] <_4strO> snake :p look on that you gave me you have the date
[03:58] <_4strO> when did you type apt-get autoremove ?
[03:58] <icecruncher> polopolo: or try #mozilla
[03:59] <snake_> _4strO: now its 4 a clock
[03:59] <hilary> Hey
[03:59] <icecruncher> hay
[03:59] <snake_> i did that at 4 a clock in the morning
[03:59] <snake_> before 12 hours
[03:59] <BluesKaj> 10 AM here icecruncher , so it's still morning :)
[03:59] <Schuenemann> heya
[03:59] <BluesKaj> hi Schuenemann
[04:00] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: here 9 pm
[04:00] <Schuenemann> 10:00? cool, just an hour of difference :-p
[04:00] <BluesKaj> aha asia or oz
[04:00] <hilary> so is no one struggling to sign into their messengers with Kopete or Pidgin or anything? or is it just me?
[04:00] <polopolo> How can I get mail from one a-mail addres to one folder on mozilla Thunderbird
[04:00] <Schuenemann> hilary, I'm on gtalk/pdgin and msn/amsn
[04:00] <jussi01> @now helsinki
[04:00] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Helsinki: June 27 2007, 17:01:01 - Current meeting: Edubuntu
[04:01] <Schuenemann> @now salvador
[04:01] <Schuenemann> unknown heh
[04:01] <polopolo> @now amsterdam
[04:01] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Amsterdam: June 27 2007, 16:01:28 - Current meeting: Edubuntu
[04:01] <hilary> so its just me then lolz
[04:01] <Schuenemann> @now bahia
[04:01] <ubotu> Current time in America/Bahia: June 27 2007, 11:01:48 - Current meeting: Edubuntu
[04:02] <polopolo> @now amsterdam | Schuenemann
[04:02] <Schuenemann> thanks, it's very important for me to know what time is it in Amsterdam
[04:02] <polopolo> Nobody has answer on my question?
[04:02] <eagles0513875> hilary
[04:02] <Schuenemann> polopolo, could you explain it better?
[04:02] <hilary> eagles
[04:03] <polopolo> ok
[04:03] <eagles0513875> did u sing back in
[04:03] <BluesKaj> polopolo, what exactly are you trying to do ...import email addresses ?
[04:03] <eagles0513875> hilary: do /msg nickserv identify then ur password
[04:03] <Schuenemann> use one folder per account?
[04:03] <hilary> yeah Pidgin and Kopete still hate me
[04:03] <eagles0513875> :(
[04:03] <snake_> can anyone help me with the sound server error please
[04:03] <icecruncher> @bangkok
[04:03] <polopolo> no, that e-mail from a e-mail addres comes into a folder in mozilla thunderbird
[04:03] <eagles0513875> join the pidgin channel and see if anyone else is having the same issues
[04:04] <Schuenemann> polopolo, you can use a filter
[04:04] <jussi01> !thunderbird
[04:04] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[04:04] <icecruncher> @now bangkok
[04:04] <ubotu> Current time in Asia/Bangkok: June 27 2007, 21:04:17 - Current meeting: Edubuntu
[04:04] <jussi01> heh, thats not much help is it...
[04:04] <polopolo> filter, ok, I try
[04:04] <Schuenemann> polopolo, tools > filter
[04:04] <eagles0513875> hilary: ur passwords typed in correctly and caps lock not turned on
[04:04] <polopolo> I saw, thank you:D
[04:05] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: I've now been online like 11 hours
[04:05] <icecruncher> lol
[04:05] <eagles0513875> anyone know where canonical is based
[04:05] <BluesKaj> icecruncher, sounds to me like you need a life too :)
[04:05] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: isle of weight?
[04:05] <polopolo> eagles: A rich african men?
[04:05] <polopolo> !o4o | eagles0513875
[04:05] <ubotu> eagles0513875: Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic. It is asked that controversial topics: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[04:05] <jussi01> !canonical
[04:05] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, UK
[04:06] <ubotu> Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[04:06] <polopolo> oops
[04:06] <icecruncher> icecruncher: well it's summer break, no school til august
[04:06] <polopolo> sorry wrong
[04:06] <eagles0513875> kool
[04:06] <eagles0513875> polo wtf
[04:06] <polopolo> eagles0513875: sorry wrong
[04:06] <eagles0513875> lol
[04:06] <eagles0513875> ty blues
[04:06] <Schuenemann> what is o4o?
[04:06] <icecruncher> oho?
[04:07] <Schuenemann> and what is oho?
[04:07] <Schuenemann> [11:05:58]  <polopolo> !o4o | eagles0513875
[04:07] <eagles0513875> ?
[04:07] <icecruncher> i mean oh oh?
[04:07] <polopolo> Founded in 2004, Canonical Ltd is a company headquartered in Europe with 90+ employees working in over 18 countries. Canonical is the commercial sponsor of Ubuntu project.
[04:07] <eagles0513875> brb guys need to restart my modem see if that helps anything
[04:07] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical
[04:08] <polopolo> !o4o > Schuenemann
[04:08] <icecruncher> well more like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_Ltd.
[04:08] <icecruncher> sorry
[04:08] <Schuenemann> polopolo, I wanted to know what is "o4o"
[04:08] <polopolo> oh
[04:08] <polopolo> wait
[04:08] <icecruncher> hey its on the isle of man
[04:08] <polopolo> !notrue
[04:08] <icecruncher> I ws close
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about notrue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <icecruncher> lol
[04:09] <polopolo> offtopic4offtopic
[04:09] <Schuenemann> very descriptive...
[04:09] <icecruncher> haha
[04:09] <snake_> this is what i get when i try to play something.
[04:09] <snake_> Sound server fatal error:
[04:09] <snake_> Error while initializing the sound driver:
[04:09] <snake_> device: default can't be opened for playback (Operation not permitted)
[04:10] <Schuenemann> !pastebin > snake_
[04:10] <BluesKaj> in the irish sea...interesting, icecruncher
[04:10] <icecruncher> mat1980: any solution yet?
[04:10] <snake_> sorry
[04:10] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: less taxes maybe, no patent issues
[04:10] <snake_> !pastebin
[04:10] <snake_> Sound server fatal error:
[04:10] <snake_> Error while initializing the sound driver:
[04:10] <snake_> device: default can't be opened for playback (Operation not permitted)
[04:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:11] <snake_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27426/
[04:11] <mat1980> icecruncher: sorry.. I was away. Can you give me again the link of the fdisk ?
[04:11] <BluesKaj> less parent issues in europe in general , anyway
[04:11] <icecruncher> mat1980: at the bottom
[04:11] <eagles0513875> hilary u still here
[04:11] <icecruncher> mat1980: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27417/
[04:12] <icecruncher> BluesKaj; *parent*  rotflol
[04:12] <icecruncher> mat1980: thnks
[04:13] <mat1980> icecruncher: well... it shows the fat partition... the output of mount ?
[04:13] <icecruncher> mat1980: ?
[04:13] <icecruncher> oh
[04:13] <BluesKaj> MS is trying to FUD some of the linux enterprise co's and mandriva just told them to take flying leap ... no patents on softwate code in Europe
[04:13] <BluesKaj> or very few
[04:14] <icecruncher> mat1980: mount: mount point /media/usb does not exist
[04:15] <mat1980> icecruncher: ok, but type only the command mount, without any option. It will show you what is mounted on the system
[04:16] <icecruncher> mat1980: done
[04:17] <mat1980> icecruncher: resolved?
[04:18] <icecruncher> no
[04:18] <snake_> artsd crashed. what can i do
[04:18] <snake_> ?
[04:18] <mat1980> icecruncher: then... where is the output?
[04:18] <icecruncher> mat1980: at the bottom
[04:18] <icecruncher> mat1980; ok, it resolved
[04:19] <icecruncher> mat1980: no idea why
[04:19] <lontra> can i resize an ext3 partition with qtparted?
[04:20] <icecruncher> mat1980: read yes, no format
[04:20] <icecruncher> mat1980: just gonna try on win :()
[04:20] <mat1980> icecruncher: I guess id of paste changes every time you change its content. So you should give the new link every time.
[04:21] <mat1980> icecruncher: do you start gparted with sudo?
[04:21] <Daisuke_Ido> lontra: i would recommend gparted, qtparted tends to be rather buggy
[04:24] <fritz> how do you change the taskbar...the original big grey ugly 1 with something that looks more 21th century?
[04:24] <BluesKaj> gparted live cd is the best way to go...solid with many more options
[04:24] <icecruncher> mat1980: well I did it in win, so now it works
[04:25] <BluesKaj> !gparted | lontra
[04:25] <ubotu> lontra: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:25] <fritz> and if any1 knows how do you make the windows themselves transparent?
[04:26] <fritz> ?
[04:26] <BluesKaj> I must admit utorrent running under wine and DLing the same file is quite a bit faster then ktorrent ... interesting
[04:27] <BluesKaj> !eyecandy
[04:27] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:29] <mat1980> icecruncher: ok
[04:30] <philip_> Oh noes
[04:30] <fritz> ok,,,,
[04:30] <philip_> First install hey guys :) great OS
[04:30] <fritz> well that didn't help
[04:31] <fritz> i'm running kubuntu
[04:31] <fritz> and there is no theme manager here
[04:31] <philip_> anyone know a utorrent style app for linux, automated RSS downloading etc
[04:31] <fritz> and nowhere does it say how to change the taskbar or toolbar
[04:32] <fritz> neither is there any info on window transparency
[04:33] <eagles0513875> do u have the beryl theme manager
[04:33] <eagles0513875> i know u can change that stuff with that
[04:34] <philip_> theme manager sucks
[04:35] <vander> fritz-try system settings->advanced->KDE resources
[04:37] <dr_willis> I tend to use ktorrent for my torrent needs
[04:41] <eagles0513875> what bout azureus
[04:41] <eagles0513875> hilary ill ttyl
[04:43] <clouder`grr> Where do I find power management options in KDE?  Mainly for telling the monitors to turn off after so long or not
[04:45] <Daisuke_Ido> system settings > monitor and display
[04:45] <dr_willis> Theres a Panel applet that lets ya set some of those. i think. also.
[04:45] <dr_willis> My laptop hass some other panel applet for a few other powersettings also
[04:47] <clouder`grr> When I go into Monitor and Display it says I have an orphaned control module or an old 3rd party module
[04:47] <clouder`grr> I originally ran gnome, and I'm giving the kubuntu package a run
[04:49] <dr_willis> you did install the 'kubuntu-desktop' package?
[04:49] <clouder`grr> dr_willis: yeah
[04:49] <dr_willis> it should all work. Thats how i normally do it all.
[04:49] <dr_willis> Its possible its some odd video card driver issue.
[04:52] <omega> hy to all
[04:52] <omega> yes i'm back
[04:53] <omega> to bother u all :))
[04:53] <omega> whit my beryl
[04:54] <omega> i gues that i don't know to set up my videeo card
[04:55] <omega> that's why doesn't work my beryl
[04:56] <omega> can help me
[04:56] <jussi01> omega: /join #ubuntu-effects
[05:00] <rockets> How do I enable logging in Kopete? I can't seem to find the option.
[05:01] <Some_Person> Is there an ubuntu human theme for kde?
[05:01] <Jucato> rockets: Settings -> Configure Plugins -> History
[05:01] <Jucato> Some_Person: try http://www.kde-look.org
[05:02] <rockets> ty
[05:02] <Some_Person> I can't find one
[05:02] <rockets> Some_Person: all I've found is an old broken one
[05:03] <Some_Person> me too
[05:03] <rockets> That'd be really nice though.
[05:03] <Some_Person> I want it to make KDE apps look better in Ubuntu - I am not an actual KDE user
[05:03] <Some_Person> But I thought this would be a better place to ask
[05:04] <Some_Person> all i have is the broken one that doesn't work and you can't delete
[05:04] <rockets> Can I use the regular ubuntu restricted module manager if I have kubuntu
[05:06] <dr_willis> rockets,  yes.. i use it all the time. :)
[05:08] <zorglu_> q. on feisty, when unlog/restart etc.. a splash screen appears with some options, it has a 'weird' video effect in the background, how can i disable this effect ?
[05:09] <zorglu_> q. feisty starts a networkmanager and batterymanager in the applet of the panel, i would like it to stop, where should i look ?
[05:11] <dr_willis> remoive the programs, log out, when you log back in. they proberly wont restart.
[05:12] <zorglu_> dr_willis: all is in the 'probably' :) i tried and they do
[05:12] <zorglu_> do restart i mean
[05:12] <fritz> 1. Make sure your xorg graphics driver has composite support and that you have composite turned on in your xorg.conf.
[05:12] <fritz> can any1 tranlate that?
[05:13] <fritz> http://dot.kde.org/1179921215/1179939974/1179941671/1180012629/
[05:13] <fritz> this is the tutorial on how to make windows transparent
[05:13] <fritz> i did everything but it doesen't work
[05:13] <dr_willis> zorglu_,  theres some 'save session' feature of kde. that may not be enabled righht. I nrmally have mine set to 'save on logout' i recall.
[05:14] <fritz> i found the windows tranlucency option in kcontrol
[05:14] <fritz> and set them to 30% but they don't change:(
[05:14] <zorglu_> ok i have seen this recently, lets try
[05:14] <fritz> any1?
[05:17] <fritz> 1. Make sure your xorg graphics driver has composite support and that you have composite turned on in your xorg.conf.
[05:17] <fritz> can any1 translate that?
[05:17] <fritz> come on...somebody...anybody?
[05:18] <Jevon> ok,question:
[05:18] <jussi01> fritz /join #ubuntu-effects
[05:19] <Jevon> Adept will no longer allow me to update or install packages, because it says that there is another adept process running. How do I stop the other process?
[05:19] <zorglu_> !fix-adept
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix-adept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <zorglu_> i keep forgeting this alias
[05:19] <jhutchins_wk> !adeptfix
[05:19] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:19] <zorglu_> i wasnt that far
[05:19] <jussi01> lol
[05:19] <fritz> ?
[05:19] <Jevon> man, I like that bot
[05:20] <jhutchins_wk> fritz: Translate it into what?
[05:20] <fritz> what does it mean
[05:20] <fritz> cause i changed the translucrency and nothing happens
[05:21] <jhutchins_wk> Looks like pretty plain english to me, but not necessarily related to translucency, which works with some card but not others.
[05:21] <Arwen> quick question, I know KDE4 is far from done, but how much of it works?
[05:22] <jhutchins_wk> Arwen: Last I heard, mostly the part that crashes, but that was a while ago.
[05:23] <Arwen> ok
[05:23] <Jevon> sounds like windows
[05:23] <jhutchins_wk> I'm starting to see more preliminary packages available, so I'd say it's moving from alpha to beta stage.
[05:23] <mat1980> Jevon: killall adept
[05:24] <fritz> what is KWin?
[05:24] <jussi01> !info kwin
[05:24] <ubotu> kwin: the KDE window manager. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20.1 (feisty), package size 1025 kB, installed size 3328 kB
[05:28] <zorglu_> sudo rm /usr/share/autostart/guidance-power-manager.desktop <- trying that now
[05:29] <ardchoille> Is there a desktop switcher type of app that will, when activated, zoom out and show non=overlapped thumbnails of all opened apps and let you choose an app?
[05:29] <Cugel> ardchoille: that's in Beryl/Compiz
[05:30] <dr_willis> Ive seen a similer thing in that mettis (mettiss?) also. :)
[05:30] <Arwen> ardchoille, that requires a compositing manager, e.g. compiz
[05:30] <ardchoille> Cugel: I won't runs those. Isn't there a stand-alone app that does it?
[05:30] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  not that ive seen
[05:30] <Arwen> ardchoille, no, because it only works when composite is enabled...
[05:30] <zorglu_> dr_willis: ok my magic rm did the job :) no more powermanager applet :)
[05:30] <ardchoille> Arwen: No, it doesn't. I've used one but forgot the name.
[05:30] <Arwen> otherwise you can't grab the windows to thumbnail em
[05:30] <Schuenemann> @now montreal
[05:30] <ubotu> Current time in America/Montreal: June 27 2007, 11:30:55 - Next meeting: Xubuntu Developers in 4 hours 29 minutes
[05:30] <Arwen> ^^ - simple as that, you're just not remembering right
[05:31] <ardchoille> Arwen: I know there's one that doesn't require compositing. I just need to remember the name.
[05:32] <icecruncher> I need a new fstab, mine is messed up
[05:32] <Arwen> but how would it work? if there's no composite enabled, the thumbnailer can't intercept the windows before they're drawn to screen
[05:32] <icecruncher> how can I get one?
[05:32] <Arwen> icecruncher, uh.... go fix it, you can't "get a new fstab"
[05:33] <icecruncher> Arwen: fix it how, it's all )&%#)%
[05:33] <Arwen> go pastebin it and I'll take a look
[05:33] <nirmal> !beryl
[05:33] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:33] <Arwen> !compiz is better than beryl
[05:33] <Arwen> oh, oops
[05:33] <ardchoille> compiz and beryl merged
[05:33] <nirmal> how to get it
[05:33] <icecruncher> Arwen: fix it how?
[05:33] <Arwen> read the link..
[05:34] <Arwen> icecruncher, it's just a file... you fix it by editing it
[05:34] <icecruncher> !fsatb
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsatb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <Arwen> !fstab > icecruncher
[05:34] <nirmal> compiz where from i download Arwen
[05:35] <Arwen> ........................
[05:35] <kenzo> hi
[05:35] <jhutchins_wk> !compiz | nirmal
[05:35] <ubotu> nirmal: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:35] <icecruncher> Arwen: yeah, but I'd like to start over
[05:35] <jhutchins_wk> icecruncher: What is it exactly that you would like us to tell you?
[05:36] <icecruncher> jhutchins_wk: my whole mounting of my usb disk is messd up, want a fresh fstab like at boot
[05:37] <jhutchins_wk> icecruncher: Well, the original fstab is generated by the installer.  You could reinstall if you insist that you don't want to fix the one you have.
[05:37] <ardchoille> ok, I meant app switcher, not desktop switcher. My bad.
[05:37] <icecruncher> jhutchins_wk: reinstall, can i repair the system?
[05:38] <jhutchins_wk> icecruncher: Certainly.
[05:38] <icecruncher> jhutchins_wk: as in via alternate cd repair?
[05:38] <jhutchins_wk> icecruncher: Like arwen said, read the doc on fstab, and if necessary pastebin your current one and ask for help.
[05:38] <jhutchins_wk> icecruncher: No.
[05:39] <jhutchins_wk> icecruncher: Not any way that I know of at least.
[05:39] <ardchoille> icecruncher: You didn't make a backup before editing it?
[05:39] <icecruncher> ardchoille; no, it was edited via the disks and filesys in sys settings, coudnt change after that
[05:40] <jhutchins_wk> icecruncher: In the time you've been moaning about it, you could have fixed it already.
[05:40] <icecruncher> jhutchins_wk: sure
[05:41] <zorglu_> q. on feisty, there is a 'log out' splash which has a 'weird' effect on the background, how can i disable it ? the dark bar going up and down
[05:41] <paolo> before i have lost my connection to this channel, i've asked: is there a protocol which is both reliable and connectionless?
[05:42] <icecruncher> ok, sorry for moaning, I'll go rtsm
[05:42] <zorglu_> paolo: not a mainstream one, no
[05:42] <zorglu_> paolo: why do you ask for that ?
[05:42] <dr_willis> zorglu_,  i just disable all the splash/framebuffer stuff :)
[05:43] <zorglu_> paolo: thinking about it, reliable imply connection
[05:43] <see-g> paolo: uhm ... I saw a description of something like that some time ago when I randomly browsed through the sourceforge
[05:43] <zorglu_> dr_willis: ok trying this :)
[05:43] <SunStealth> Hey guys, I need help, where can I find the sound config file for my alsa sound device?
[05:45] <zorglu_> dr_willis: i browse the kcontrol, and found nothing about splash/framebuffer. any more precise pointer ?
[05:45] <icecruncher> ok, would anyone mind helping me edit my fstab? the link is http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/27438/
[05:46] <dr_willis> zorglu_,  its a kernel boot time option i disable.
[05:46] <dr_willis> # defoptions=nosplash nofb
[05:46] <zorglu_> dr_willis: ah ok, well this wont help the kde delog, no ? i mean would be surprising...
[05:46] <dr_willis> in the menu.lst and rerun grub-install
[05:46] <dr_willis> :)
[05:46] <dr_willis> kde delog?
[05:47] <dr_willis> im refering to the boot splash/gfx/eye candy.
[05:47] <zorglu_> dr_willis: i was talking of the splash you get when you do the desktop -> popup menu -> logout
[05:47] <zorglu_> dr_willis: on feisty you got a splash in the middle of the screen with various big icons
[05:47] <zorglu_> dr_willis: and a weird background effect, just would like to disable this effect
[05:48] <dr_willis> I dont recall seeing any  effect... other then a greying out of the background I think. lets look
[05:49] <icecruncher> jhutchins_wk: would you mind helping me?
[05:49] <zorglu_> dr_willis: this is a 'darker bar going up and down'
[05:49] <dr_willis> It just does a animated 'dark fade' Hmm..  i always log out so fast.. i never notice it.
[05:49] <zorglu_> dr_willis: me too but it make my screen 'blink' in practice :)
[05:49] <dr_willis> #kde may know the proper place to kill that effect. Ive never seen issues with it.
[05:49] <dr_willis> or be a realman and just hit - alt-ctrl-backspace! :)
[05:50] <ardchoille> hahaha
[05:50] <zorglu_> dr_willis: in fact this has been added by kubuntu people apparently and is not on kde itself, from jucato on kde
[05:50] <dr_willis> or add a logout button to the panel.
[05:50] <zorglu_> dr_willis: yep i will find workaround if i can fix it properly
[05:50] <Jucato> zorglu_: hold on a sec, let me try to get something
[05:50] <ardchoille> zorglu_: How often do you log out? My main computer has been logged into kde for 3 months.
[05:50] <dr_willis> ive seen a similer effect for the various 'enter root password' things as well.
[05:51] <zorglu_> ardchoille: a lot :)
[05:51] <Jucato> zorglu_: you want to remove the fade effect?
[05:51] <Jucato> dr_willis: that's what happens on Ubuntu iirc
[05:51] <zorglu_> Jucato: yep, or make it more 'subtle', the edgy one was ok,
[05:51] <ardchoille> dr_willis: *that* has to do with the system keeping apps (keyloggers) from sniffing the admin pass.
[05:51] <zorglu_> Jucato: but no effect is ok too
[05:51] <dr_willis> I think we need animated video effects in thebackground!
[05:52] <dr_willis> like for kdesu - there shouldbe comptuers exploding as a warning! :)
[05:52] <Jucato> dr_willis: run mplayer without borders? :)
[05:52] <Jucato> fullscreen
[05:52] <Jucato> zorglu_: ok I think I have something, hold on
[05:52] <dr_willis> Logout shows various pc's  err.... melting.. :)
[05:52] <zorglu_> Jucato: ok waiting :)
[05:53] <icecruncher> jhutchins_wk: what is the mtab file?
[05:53] <ardchoille> !mtab
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <Arwen> mtab lists mounted filesystems doesn't it?
[05:53] <Jucato> zorglu_: in ~/.kde/share/config, open or create the ksmserverrc file (most probably it exists already)
[05:54] <icecruncher> Arwen: so where would usb come into play? mtab or fstab?
[05:54] <Arwen> .........
[05:54] <Jucato> zorglu_: then add this whole section at the end: http://rafb.net/p/XMFTpy85.html
[05:54] <zorglu_> wow :)
[05:54] <zorglu_> Jucato: ok trying
[05:54] <Jucato> zorglu_: the numbers are in milliseconds. the last one is in "percent"
[05:55] <Jucato> (0.6 = 60%)
[05:55] <Jucato> of course, the first one is either true or false
[05:55] <Jucato> doFancyLogout=false disables the fade effect. not sure if it brings back the default KDE fade
[05:56] <ardchoille> Jucato: Wow, you know kde quite well. I'm glad you're in this channel.
[05:57] <Jucato> lol no
[05:57] <icecruncher> Arwen: i get it, mtab is what to do when mount command is used
[05:57] <Jucato> it just so happen that I kept bugging the creator of that logout effect patch for that :)
[05:58] <Darkrift411> ok, i have a major problem
[05:58] <icecruncher> jhutchins_wk: is there a howto for mtab?
[05:58] <Darkrift411> seems any type of video is causing problems
[05:58] <Darkrift411> at first i thought it was just my browsers
[05:58] <Darkrift411> but now i cant even watch tv shows ive downloaded
[05:59] <Darkrift411> everything that plays video is freezing up
[05:59] <dr_willis>  locate  ksmserverrc   - shows several example ksmserverrc files   -- nifty
[05:59] <zorglu_> Jucato: cool thanks :)
[05:59] <dr_willis> usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/lesser-visual-impairment/share/config/ksmserverrc
[05:59] <dr_willis> that may be good for my wife. :)
[05:59] <zorglu_> Jucato: i experimented a bit, and there is a bug in the timer interpretation :)
[05:59] <Jucato> dr_willis: yeah there should be at least 2 or 3
[05:59] <Darkrift411> vlc, kaffiene, mplayer, firefox, konqueror and anything else i try to play video in arehaving this problem
[06:00] <Jucato> dr_willis, zorglu_: oh let me throw in something else for that :)
[06:00] <Jucato> doUbuntuLogout= in the same section of ksmserverrc
[06:00] <zorglu_> Jucato: try to put 50 on both Time and you will see the fade bar freeze in the middle of the screen
[06:00] <Jucato> dr_willis, zorglu_: true = new Kubuntu logout dialog. false = default KDE logout dialog
[06:01] <Darkrift411> anyone got any ideas?
[06:01] <foose12> im having a disply issue in kubuntu, is this the right place to ask?
[06:01] <zorglu_> Jucato: cool thanks, i got my edgy logout back :)
[06:01] <Evolution2> i have been trying to install the new version of wine. i untared it in my home directory but i dont understand what command i need to use to install it. btw, its wine 0.9.39
[06:01] <zorglu_> Jucato: thanks you are always so helpfull :)
[06:01] <Jucato> hahah
[06:01] <Jucato> you just got lucky :)
[06:01] <Jucato> !info wine
[06:02] <ardchoille> Jucato: Well, I'm glad you bugged him :)
[06:02] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[06:02] <dr_willis> Thers some experimental repository of wine  - i though for the latest releases.. for those that have to be cuttung edge. I guess. :)
[06:02] <icecruncher> do you have to restart the system once you've edited the fstab and the mtab?
[06:02] <dr_willis> but ive not used them.
[06:03] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  i cant recall ever needing to edit the mtab.
[06:03] <Darkrift411> is there another place i could ask?
[06:03] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  and it depends on whatyou did to the fstab.
[06:03] <Evolution2> so i should just stick to the adept wine
[06:03] <Evolution2> thats version 0.9.33
[06:03] <foose12> when i sety my desktop are to the maximim of 1280x1024, i gert purple vertical lines running down the screen about every 2 cm
[06:03] <Darkrift411> id think its new enough Evolution2
[06:03] <dr_willis> Evolution2,  if it works for what you need..id stick to it.
[06:03] <foose12> i have a samsubg 19inch
[06:03] <Jucato> Darkrift411: there is no need for you to compile (which is what you'll end up doing with that tarball/archive)
[06:03] <Darkrift411> thats not for me
[06:03] <Darkrift411> im having the video probs :(
[06:04] <Evolution2> dr_willis: ok thanks
[06:04] <Evolution2> so to get rid of the untar just delete it right?
[06:04] <Jucato> Darkrift411: just add this line to your repositories "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main"
[06:04] <Jucato> er sorry Darkrift411
[06:04] <Darkrift411> Jucato,
[06:04] <Darkrift411> heh
[06:04] <Jucato> Evolution2: there is no need for you to compile (which is what you'll end up doing with that tarball/archive)
[06:04] <Jucato> Evolution2: just add this line to your repositories "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main"
[06:05] <Darkrift411> dont think anyone saw my q:'
[06:05] <Darkrift411> s
[06:05] <Evolution2> as in konsole?
[06:05] <Jucato> Darkrift411: I saw. but no idea sorry
[06:05] <Jucato> Evolution2: in Adept or manually, either way
[06:05] <dr_willis> http://wine.budgetdedicated.com feisty/main wine 0.9.39~winehq0~ubuntu~7.04-1
[06:05] <fritz> is there anyway 2 make windows background transparent...as in replace the white picture with a transparent one?
[06:05] <dr_willis> :) version 9.39 there.
[06:05] <Evolution2> thanks
[06:06] <Jucato> Evolution2: in Adept, go to Adept menu -> Manage Repositories -> Third party tab
[06:06] <Jucato> then add the line that I just gave you in quotes
[06:06] <Arwen> fritz, what window?
[06:06] <Jucato> (don't add the quotes)
[06:06] <Evolution2> ok
[06:06] <Arwen> without composite, you can use fake transparency if that suites your needs
[06:06] <fritz> all windows
[06:06] <dr_willis> Ya got Fake Transparencies.. then ya got real ones.. :)
[06:06] <Arwen> nope
[06:06] <fritz> form konqueror
[06:06] <dr_willis> both are a bit on the useless side. I think.
[06:06] <Arwen> go get beryl (dead software) or compiz
[06:07] <fritz> allready have it
[06:07] <Darkrift411> beryl is dead?
[06:07] <fritz> but it runns really slow
[06:07] <fritz> on my computer
[06:07] <dr_willis> Thats the price you pay.
[06:07] <dr_willis> :)
[06:07] <fritz> no it's quite popular actually
[06:07] <fritz> ^.^
[06:07] <dr_willis> Its dead as in the projects are merging...
[06:07] <icecruncher> ok, in fstab, what does the suid mean?
[06:07] <Darkrift411> damnit
[06:08] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  'suid/nosuid' disables/allows the use of suid binaries on the partition/filesystem
[06:08] <icecruncher> dr_willis: suid binaries being biaries run with sudo?
[06:08] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  100% wrong. :)
[06:08] <dr_willis> suid binaries have the SUID bit set
[06:08] <icecruncher> ;(
[06:08] <dr_willis> nothing to do with 'sudo'
[06:09] <icecruncher> ?
[06:09] <dr_willis> Time to read/google about  'suid' bits I guess. :)
[06:09] <dr_willis> somthing that is 'suid root' when it runs by ANYONE gets ran as root.
[06:09] <dr_willis> that can be a big security issue.
[06:09] <dr_willis> thus the nosuid option. so people cant just pop in 'suid'ed' binaries to hack a system
[06:13] <Some_Person> When you save a color scheme in kcontrol where does it go?
[06:14] <zorglu_> q. i would like to prevent lighttpd to start automatically via /etc/init.d/lighttpd on boot, but still keep it installed, is there a ubuntu tool to disable it ?
[06:14] <dr_willis> i think in .kde somewhere. :)
[06:15] <foose12> !channel
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about channel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <zorglu_> (beside removing /etc/rc.d/K* file i mean :)
[06:15] <foose12> !channels
[06:15] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[06:15] <dr_willis> zorglu_,   the runlevels have LINKS to that file.. remove the link.
[06:15] <dr_willis> zorglu_,  cd /etc/rc2.d/ , and look at the links
[06:15] <icecruncher> dr_willis: does it matter in what order you put the oions in fstab?
[06:15] <zorglu_> dr_willis: yep the rc.d/K files ..
[06:15] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  not that ive ever seen
[06:16] <zorglu_> dr_willis: ok you are right, no time for fancy solution :)
[06:16] <dr_willis> zorglu_,  tweak the links to start/stop things.. and yes there are tools to do it.
[06:16] <_4strO> zorglu_: in system /settings / advanced / services manager ? or something like this ?
[06:16] <dr_willis> fancy? :) removeing a link is fancy.. heh.
[06:16] <_4strO> zorglu_: in system settings / advanced / services manager ? or something like this ?
[06:16] <dr_willis> Huh., wonder what some of these do
[06:16] <dr_willis>  S20kde-guidance
[06:16] <zorglu_> _4strO: lookin
[06:16] <Arwen> wtf?
[06:17] <Evolution2> dr_willis: after i out that line in my repository, adept doesnt load anymore. it welll me there is an error. i types "apt-get update" and it tell me that the wine line i just entered is "not known in like 39 in source list"  how can i reverse this
[06:17] <_4strO> zorglu_: or system services
[06:17] <zorglu_> dr_willis: i know what guidance powermanager is a small applet
[06:17] <zorglu_> what=that
[06:17] <dr_willis> Evolution2,  sounds like a typo on your part.
[06:17] <Evolution2> how do i reverse it
[06:18] <dr_willis> Evolution2,  i just tacked that line to the end of mine and did a 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade'
[06:18] <Evolution2> so what should i type
[06:18] <dr_willis> Evolution2,  i edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file manually :)  so edit it and remove that line I guess.
[06:18] <dr_willis> or fix it
[06:18] <Evolution2> i dont get it
[06:18] <zorglu_> _4strO: hmm the 'system setting' apps is bugged on this one
[06:18] <zorglu_> _4strO: any idea of the command line they use ?
[06:18] <dr_willis> Evolution2,  what part? editing a file?
[06:18] <Evolution2> how do you get to that file
[06:19] <dr_willis> Evolution2,  its a text file.. i fire up a text editor and edit it.
[06:19] <zorglu_> _4strO: i did it in the past but cant remember, something with sysv in it
[06:19] <_4strO> zorglu_: try with ALT+F2 then kcontrol
[06:19] <dr_willis> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:19] <dr_willis> or similer
[06:19] <dr_willis> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main
[06:19] <dr_willis> is the LAST line i have in that file
[06:19] <icecruncher> back it up first!
[06:20] <_4strO> lol
[06:20] <icecruncher> i forget it to often
[06:20] <navets> hey is there a good php editor that I can use for debugging?
[06:21] <zorglu_> _4strO: maouaou i enter in a bug spiral:) kdesu kcontrol no more launch anything
[06:21] <Evolution2> dr_willis: thanks
[06:21] <Evolution2> i had the quotes!
[06:21] <Evolution2> thats why
[06:21] <_4strO> zorglu_: no need kdesu
[06:22] <zorglu_> _4strO: modifying /etc/rc.d without root ?
[06:22] <_4strO> zorglu_: no need to use kdesu to launch kcontrol
[06:23] <zorglu_> _4strO: in 'system service' when you click on 'admin mode', you get anything back ? here it goes 100% cpu for 20sec and then no more move with a large empty grey window
[06:23] <_4strO> zorglu_: it will ask you the admin pass when it will need it
[06:23] <_4strO> zorglu_:
[06:23] <_4strO> i think you should restart X :p
[06:23] <Evolution2> dr_willis: how come the "full upgrade" button in adept is blacked out. it wont let me click on it anymore. it that normal?
[06:24] <icecruncher> dr_willis: the dev/nodev in fstab means, dev; user can mount/
[06:24] <icecruncher> ?
[06:24] <_4strO> zorglu_: or kill the process who is eating all your CPU :p
[06:24] <zorglu_> _4strO: the process eating the cpu is kcontrol probing for all the services
[06:25] <_4strO> lol
[06:25] <zorglu_> !info sysv-rc
[06:25] <ubotu> sysv-rc: System-V-like runlevel change mechanism. In component main, is required. Version 2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu18 (feisty), package size 55 kB, installed size 268 kB
[06:25] <zorglu_> bla!
[06:25] <_4strO> that's weird
[06:26] <icecruncher> what does the dev/nodev in fstab mean, dev; user can mount?
[06:26] <Evolution2> why is the "full upgrade" button in adept is blacked out. it wont let me click on it anymore. it that normal?
[06:27] <navets> does anyone know of a good php editior I can use for error checking?
[06:28] <zorglu_> _4strO: dr_willis: sudo update-rc.d -f lighttpd remove <- the official way :)
[06:29] <dr_willis> zorglu_,  under redhat and other disrtos they got a 'service' command
[06:29] <dranas> i got a quick and easy question
[06:29] <dr_willis> zorglu_,  offical way.. edit the links.. :)
[06:29] <zorglu_> dr_willis: :)
[06:29] <dranas> how do i change the k menu icon?
[06:29] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  all the fstab option are covered in 'man fstab' i do belive
[06:29] <icecruncher> dr_willis: not ver extensively though
[06:29] <zorglu_> !upgrade | Evolution2
[06:29] <ubotu> Evolution2: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[06:30] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  theres 2 fstab man pages I beliuve.. one for the command and one for the file
[06:30] <icecruncher> dr_willis: would you recomend user for a usb drive
[06:30] <_4strO> zorglu_: lol ok the official GEEK way ;)
[06:31] <dr_willis> ahh its man mount. :)
[06:31] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  depends on the filesystem, on the usb drive
[06:31] <_4strO> but the official clean way too
[06:31] <icecruncher> dr_willis: auto :)
[06:31] <icecruncher> dr_willis: dr_willis: as in should the user be able to mount it or  ratehr automount?
[06:32] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  its rather silly to even worry about the options then. since a great many will NOT apply to every filesystem
[06:32] <dr_willis> nosuid/nodev do not apply to vfat filesystems for example
[06:32] <icecruncher> dr_willis: true, but I wnt my usb drive to mount automatically as soon as i plug it in, what seeting woudl i need?
[06:32] <dr_willis> by adding a fstab entry - the things will stop being automounted by KDE - i do belive
[06:33] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  Mine does that allready.. well it pops up a dialog.
[06:33] <icecruncher> dr_willis; sou I don't need a fstab at all for it?
[06:33] <omega> hy i'm back
[06:34] <omega> now i don't have any more the titlle bar on every window
[06:37] <omega> anyone???
[06:37] <llp78> Hello: is it possible to enable Java on konqueror?
[06:37] <llp78> and how would I do it?
[06:37] <Admiral_Chicago> llp78: do you have java installed?
[06:38] <llp78> Well, i dunno - but it works in firefox and not in konqueror
[06:38] <llp78> But, I prefer Konqueror to firefox as its quicker.. IMO
[06:38] <_4strO> !java
[06:38] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:39] <llp78> Java is installed - I can access it from the shell
[06:39] <icecruncher> ok, another thing in fstab that keeps me wondering is the atime. any explanation?
[06:39] <Admiral_Chicago> llp78: go to setting >> configure konqueror >> plugins
[06:39] <llp78> So whats the next steps.... anyone
[06:40] <Admiral_Chicago> then click search for plugins
[06:40] <_4strO> llp78:  did you have it on firefox ?
[06:40] <dr_willis> icecruncher,    check google, and mount man pages. :) it explains all that.. and correct to autount my usb gizmos i do NOT have any entrys for them in fstab
[06:41] <Evolution2> how come the "full upgrade" button in adept is blacked out. it wont let me click on it anymore. it that normal?
[06:41] <llp78> yes, it works good in firefox,
[06:41] <_4strO> llp78: look on configuration / konqueror configuration / external modules
[06:41] <icecruncher> dr_willis: what about your mtab?
[06:41] <dr_willis> ive NEVER edited the mtab file
[06:41] <dr_willis> not sure it ever needs to be edited
[06:42] <llp78> Admiral_Chicago: i searched for pluggins and nothing appeared to happen
[06:42] <genii> llp78:  There's some stuff about it here http://www.konqueror.org/javahowto/
[06:42] <dr_willis> mtab is made by the system as needed
[06:42] <llp78> genii: good link - thanks
[06:42] <dr_willis> bbl
[06:42] <genii> llp78:  Looks like it depends on a package called kjas
[06:42] <omega> should i install the updates for kubuntu?
[06:43] <_4strO> omega: yes
[06:43] <omega> tanks
[06:45] <icecruncher>  would anyone mind looking at your mtab file and tell me if there is a entry for usb drives?
[06:45] <_4strO> mmm
[06:47] <_4strO> icecruncher: the only USB peripheral i have are keyboard and mouse, and they dont appear in my mtab
[06:47] <omega> how can i install nfs?
[06:47] <Minataku> Heya, genii
[06:47] <Minataku> What's up?
[06:47] <icecruncher> _4strO: no usb drive?
[06:48] <genii> Minataku 12 minutes left of my lunch break :)
[06:48] <Minataku> genii: Heehee
[06:48] <_4strO> icecruncher: procbususb /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0
[06:48] <Minataku> genii: Manage to ship that box out?
[06:48] <_4strO> thats the only line refer to usb
[06:48] <icecruncher> dunno
[06:49] <genii> Minataku BTW I have to send you several packages because doing it in one shot is horribly expensive unfortunately
[06:49] <Minataku> genii: Eep
[06:49] <Minataku> It'll probably end up adding up to that anyway >.<
[06:49] <Minataku> How expensive, for my reference?
[06:49] <genii> Minataku No worries just it will take longer etc
[06:49] <_4strO> omega: K / system settings / share ?
[06:50] <Minataku> Yeah, I'll have to dodge the multiple packages around my dad >.<
[06:50] <genii> Minataku Well to ship everything in one shot woulda been around $130 (Canadian)
[06:50] <Minataku> AIEEEE
[06:50] <Minataku> That's about $100 US
[06:50] <genii> Somewhere in there, yeah
[06:51] <Minataku> They ship by volume or what?!
[06:51] <genii> by weight
[06:51] <Minataku> Then it'll just add up to $130CDN anyway ;o;
[06:51] <Minataku> Let's shift to PM
[06:51] <genii> Minataku Yeah but I can stretch it out over a month or 6 weeks and it won't be so painful all at once LOL
[06:52] <Minataku> Heehee
[06:59] <dranas> so anyone know how to change the k menu icon?
[07:01] <rajkalyan> anyone
[07:01] <rajkalyan> i want to too
[07:07] <ardchoille> dranas: In your icon theme you will find an icon named kmenu or something like that, there are several.. one for each resolution (16x16, 22x22, 36x36, etc). You need to change those icons to change the menu icon
[07:07] <ardchoille> Or, you can install and use kbfx, and that'll do it too.
[07:08] <ardchoille> dranas: /usr/share/icons/$ICON_THEME/$SIZE/apps/kmenu.png
[07:11] <dranas> ty
[07:11] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[07:12] <jussi01> ok, I changed my icons around, and it changed the amarok icon. however when i changed them back/different, the amarok icon is still the wrong one, is there a way to change only 1 icon?
[07:13] <ardchoille> jussi01: To change just one icon, you'll have to go through ewach one of the resolution folders in your icon theme and change all those icons.
[07:14] <jussi01> gah, how do I get my amarok icon back...
[07:14] <jussi01> i have a thing that looks like a feckin volume control right now....
[07:15] <ardchoille> jussi01: Go to /usr/share/icons/$ICON_THEME/$SIZE/apps and fix it.
[07:15] <ardchoille> Probably amarok.png
[07:16] <jussi01> ardchoille: thanks... i fixed the naughty thing...
[07:16] <ardchoille> :)
[07:16] <ardchoille> Anyone use kbfx and know how to keep the menu on the right from scrolling? I'd like it to be a long menu, like the kmenu
[07:18] <Admiral_Chicago> i have two computers running on a LAN. is there a way to detatch a screen session on this computer and reattach on the other computer?
[07:18] <Yorokobi> !grubfix
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grubfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <Yorokobi> !fix grub
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix grub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <ardchoille> !grub
[07:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:19] <Yorokobi> There was a fix option for the bot
[07:19] <ardchoille> !search fix
[07:19] <ubotu> Found: aptfix, xorg.conf, adeptcrashfix, adept fix, fixres, artifacts-#ubuntu-effects, exploit, questions-#ubuntu-classroom-chat, adept crash fix, fixgrub
[07:19] <ardchoille> !fixgrub
[07:19] <Yorokobi> !fixgrub
[07:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:20] <ardchoille> Yorokobi: ^^
[07:20] <Yorokobi> wee
[07:20] <Yorokobi> thanks, ardchoille
[07:20] <ardchoille> You can search :)
[07:20] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[07:20] <ardchoille> Yorokobi: But, if the channel is busy, might be better to /msg ubotu   and seach in a pm
[07:21] <Yorokobi> but thanks ardchoille
[07:21] <ardchoille> :)
[07:21] <Yorokobi> etiquette is a good thing
[07:21] <ardchoille> Gotta love that bot :)
[07:21] <Kjellviz> hi there, i installed kubuntu/kde desktop on a ubuntu unstallation, how can i remove ubuntu/gnome ?
[07:22] <Kjellviz> man that was a poor sentence ><
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> Kjellviz: sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> then I suggest: sudo aptitude autoclean
[07:22] <Kjellviz> ok that'll remove gnome and all gtk apps+tools ?
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> yea
[07:22] <Kjellviz> aite sounds good
[07:22] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: You're wanting to stick with kde?
[07:22] <Kjellviz> ye
[07:22] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: Try this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[07:23] <ardchoille> Not sure if that applies, but you can tell better than me.
[07:23] <Kjellviz> i prefer gnome when it comes to managing my OS, but so many of the programs i use have the best alternatives made for KDE :P
[07:23] <ardchoille> Yikes! That's quite a long list of removes
[07:24] <Kjellviz> yeah!
[07:24] <Kjellviz> another question though
[07:24] <Kjellviz> theres a coupld of screensavers in gnome that i really like
[07:25] <Kjellviz> can i copy them over to kde first ?
[07:25] <ardchoille> It doesn't hurt to have gnome and kde installed at the same time and gnome apps run in kde and vice versa
[07:25] <Kjellviz> i know
[07:25] <Kjellviz> but my install is rather funky atm
[07:25] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: From what I understand, those gnome screensavers are just hacked xscreensavers.. should be available in xscreensaver and kde
[07:25] <Kjellviz> for starters its still using gnome to manage my screensaver
[07:26] <Yorokobi> Kjellviz, or use fluxbox with apps from both gnome and KDE
[07:26] <ardchoille> And I remember seeing a bunch of screensavers while looking through the repos
[07:26] <Kjellviz> whatever change i make in kde doesent apply to screensavers at all
[07:26] <Kjellviz> Yorokobi: fluxbox ?
[07:26] <Evolution2> i need the wine repositories in adept. can someone assist
[07:27] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: uninstall gnome-screensaver ?
[07:27] <Kjellviz> and, the default apps doesent run to nice, i uninstalled transmission but it still tries to use it as default torrent app
[07:27] <Arwen> is it possible to ssh into a vmware guest from the host OS?
[07:27] <Kjellviz> ardchoille: ye that was part of what i wanted to accomplish by removing gnome
[07:27] <Arwen> anyone?
[07:27] <Yorokobi> Kjellviz, fluxbox is another window manager (from Blackbox). Its faster/lighter than KDE & gnome
[07:27] <Kjellviz> hummm
[07:27] <Kjellviz> yet another alternative
[07:28] <dr_willis> dozen + window managers ya can use. :)
[07:28] <Kjellviz> when will i have time to stop tinkering and start using my comp ? :P
[07:28] <Kjellviz> ^^
[07:28] <dr_willis> matchbox (not related to fluxbox) , windowmaker, icewm,
[07:28] <Arwen> beryl, compiz,...
[07:28] <dr_willis> xfce, sawfish,
[07:28] <Arwen> xfce isn't a window manager
[07:28] <Arwen> FAIL!
[07:28] <dr_willis> compwiz is beryl now also.. isent it.
[07:28] <Kjellviz> no
[07:29] <Kjellviz> beryl is compiz
[07:29] <Kjellviz> ^^
[07:29] <dr_willis> and he was asking for Light weight alternatives.
[07:29] <dr_willis> Kjellviz,  wasent that what i said. :) in reverse order..
[07:29] <Arwen> dr_willis, other way around
[07:29] <Kjellviz> who was asking for lightweight ?
[07:29] <Arwen> yeah?
[07:29] <Arwen> this is #kubuntu, we don't know what lightweight even means
 Kjellviz, fluxbox is another window manager (from Blackbox). Its faster/lighter than KDE & gnome
 hummm
[07:30] <dr_willis> just go install them ALL and have KDM load one randomly!
[07:30] <Kjellviz> haha
[07:30] <Arwen> heh
[07:30] <Kjellviz> good idea ^^
[07:30] <Kjellviz> no im not looking for lightweigth at all
[07:30] <Kjellviz> im content with kde so far
[07:30] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: If you're interested in window managers, have a look here: http://xwinman.org/
[07:30] <dr_willis> i still rember the old days when gnome kept changing their default windo wmanager every month...
[07:30] <Kjellviz> but i installed it on a ubuntu install
[07:31] <Kjellviz> and ive got some strange behaviour
[07:31] <ardchoille> dr_willis: lol, yeah and they ended up with the worst one too.
[07:31] <dr_willis> Kjellviz,  thats normally how i install it.. with no problems
[07:31] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  yep.. lets go with the one NO one has ever heard of!
[07:31] <dr_willis> and that dosent let you change settings!
[07:31] <ardchoille> Yeah
[07:31] <Kjellviz> well ive still got loads of gnome stuff controlling what kde should be controlling
[07:31] <ardchoille> dr_willis: That's the main reason I dumped it for openbox in gnome
[07:32] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: Have you switched from gdm to kdm yet?
[07:32] <terayam> I need some help getting networkmanager to recognize my wusb11 adapter as a network device
[07:32] <Kjellviz> ardchoille: please elaborate
[07:33] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: gdm (gnome display manager), kdm (kde display manager).. those control the login screen as well as a few other things.
[07:33] <Kjellviz> ive got kde login and desktop
[07:33] <Kjellviz> thats all i know
[07:33] <Kjellviz> :P
[07:33] <ardchoille> Then you're using kdm
[07:33] <Kjellviz> im new to linux as well
[07:34] <Kjellviz> hehe
[07:34] <dr_willis> you did install 'kubuntu-desktop' ?
[07:34] <Kjellviz> yes
[07:34] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: Did it ask you to choose between kdm and gdm?
[07:34] <Kjellviz> but first i installed kde-desktop
[07:34] <Kjellviz> then kubuntu-desktop
[07:34] <terayam> the internet works great for the most part but the networkmanager doesn't display my device in it's network device menu
[07:34] <Kjellviz> nyeh
[07:34] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: kubuntu-desktop is just an empty meta package, it exists only to pull in the things kde needs to run properly
[07:35] <dr_willis> terayam,  what 'device' ?
[07:35] <terayam> dr_wills:  It's a linksys wusb11 2.6
[07:37] <Kjellviz> ardchoille: ok
[07:37] <Kjellviz> not sure if i dare removing gnome lol
[07:38] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: Might be easier to backup your personal stuff and install kubuntu from the kubuntu cd
[07:38] <ardchoille> That's what I did to switch from gnome to kde, less hassle.
[07:38] <Kjellviz> yes i was thinking of that alternative
[07:39] <daquino> what is ksuspend_usbd?
[07:42] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: That option would likely make your hard drive much less fragmented as well as start youoff with a fresh install. But, it's up to you.
[07:42] <Kjellviz> aint it possible to install kubuntu with home on a seperate partition so that a reinstall wont touch home ?
[07:43] <ardchoille> Yes
[07:43] <ardchoille> But I forgot how I did it.
[07:43] <hasan> hi guys
[07:43] <daquino> you just create another partition
[07:43] <hasan> i try to initiatate adept_installer
[07:43] <slash> ciao
[07:43] <hasan> but it says some other application prevents it
[07:44] <daquino> Kjellviz:  are you familiar with linux at the cli level ?
[07:44] <hasan> as far as i can see there is no application
[07:44] <hasan> where can i list the application or process blocking it?
[07:44] <pag> !fixadept | hasan
[07:44] <ubotu> hasan: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:44] <Kjellviz> daquino: probably not since i dunno what cli level is :P
[07:45] <ardchoille> cli = command line interface  (ie terminal)
[07:45] <Kjellviz> im not afraid of it if thats what u ask hehe
[07:45] <Kjellviz> i have run some commands and started my microsoft career in dos
[07:46] <Kjellviz> but im not very familiar no
[07:47] <hasan> i just want to thank ubotu
[07:47] <hasan> :)
[07:47] <hasan> u r great
[07:47] <hasan> :)
[07:47] <GrahamA> Hey
[07:47] <daquino> Kjellviz:  well is your system allready installed or is this a new install ?
[07:48] <ardchoille> hasan: ubotu is a bot, give him a botsnack instead ;)
[07:48] <ardchoille> !botsnack
[07:48] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[07:48] <Evolution2> ubotu: could you tell me how i can fix an adept problem
[07:48] <Kjellviz> daquino: its a ubuntu install which i installed kubuntu on top of using apt-get
[07:49] <ardchoille> !bot
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[07:49] <sayers> How do I set dolphin as my main file manager?
[07:49] <GrahamA> Dolphin?
[07:49] <sayers> In Gusty
[07:49] <Kjellviz> daquino: but i was thinkin of reinstalling kubuntu from scratch
[07:49] <GrahamA> OIC
[07:49] <GrahamA> Hows KDE 4?
[07:49] <sayers> a lot better
[07:50] <GrahamA> kmenu > system settings > default applications, try that
[07:50] <sayers> It is a file manager, don't know if this will work
[07:51] <GrahamA> I'm on Feisty, I don't know either :D
[07:51] <daquino> Kjellviz:  ah you dont need too do that... anyway take your ubuntu cd and boot into the live desktop... then use gparted to resize your root partition down to free up the desired space.... then create a new partition in the free space... then mount both partitions... move all the files from home directory over to the new partition... then edit your /etc/fstab to mount the new partition to /home... reboot
[07:51] <Hunding> is KDE 4.0 stable?
[07:51] <sayers> no it's testing
[07:52] <daquino> Kjellviz:  of course /etc/fstab refers to the fstab file in your "root partition" not on the live cd ramdisk
[07:53] <Kjellviz> daquino: ok, but the reason for reinstalling is that installing kde on ubuntu has rendered some weird behaviour on my comp
[07:53] <Kjellviz> that and prob some newb tweaking ive done hehe
[07:53] <daquino> wtf you talking about ?
[07:54] <Alata> Hullo folks, not a Kubuntu question per se, but, what would be the easiest way to check if a certain package is installed? I.e. from a shell script?
[07:55] <Kjellviz> daquino: im talking about that my install is fubar and the easiest way to fix is prob reinstall
[07:55] <Kjellviz> and when i do reinstall, i wondered if i could put home on a seperate partition for future use
[07:55] <daquino> Alata: dpkg --listfiles somepackage &> /dev/null; if [ "$?" -eq 0 ] ; then echo "package exists" ; fi
[07:56] <daquino> theres a dirty trick for you
[07:56] <daquino> Kjellviz:  yes my question was what is if foobard
[07:56] <Hunding> daquino: lol...little ove the top there with that package command there
[07:57] <ardchoille> daquino: That won't list packages installed from scripts (./configure) will it?
[07:57] <Kjellviz> daquino: like gnome still controlling my deafult apps and screensaver settings
[07:57] <daquino> Hunding:  hah why ?
[07:57] <Alata> Hmm, I'll try it out, thanks. :-)
[07:57] <daquino> ardchoille:  nothing will... build a deb when you build from source
[07:58] <daquino> Kjellviz:  wtf you talking about ? i installed every single ubuntu and its running fine
[07:59] <ardchoille> daquino: Ah, ok. I was asking because that's what he needed. I haven't needed to compile anything for two years.
[07:59] <Kjellviz> well maybe you did, but it sure dint go well here
[07:59] <Kjellviz> any changes i do in kde's tool for managing screensaver dont do shit
[07:59] <Kjellviz> but if i fire up gnome-screensaver (think thats the name) then i can change screensaver etc
[07:59] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: That's because you're running gnome screensaver, not the screensaver in kde
[08:00] <ardchoille> kill gnome screensaver and start kde's screensaver.
[08:00] <Kjellviz> kill it how ?
[08:01] <Kjellviz> and yes, the problems i have is more likely to be caused by my n00bishness than to a error in (k)ubuntu
[08:01] <Kjellviz> but its still a friggin error to me
[08:01] <Kjellviz> ><
[08:03] <Hunding> daquino: cause your command was far more than needed for the question...a simple sudo apt-cache search packagename will tell you if a package is installed or not
[08:03] <gary_> How do I convert an AVI in order that I can place it onto a DVD for viewing in a home dvd hi-fi system ?
[08:04] <gary_> I have converted the AVI once using Tovid into an M2V
[08:04] <gary_> I also have K3B installed
[08:04] <jaro> Hi, i have a question: what can I do to fix the following errormessage : insmod: error inserting 'stk11xx.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module  ??
[08:04] <Evolution2> /cs list
[08:04] <coreymon77> i believe k3b can do it
[08:04] <Evolution2> !list
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[08:04] <gary_> it can
[08:05] <Evolution2> how do you get the list of chans on this server
[08:05] <gary_> provided the file fits in with what K3B desires :)
[08:05] <coreymon77> gary_: i think that burning a video dvd through k3b will automatically convert it to play in a regular player
[08:06] <gary_> error message of:
[08:07] <gary_> found files bigger than 2 GB. These files will only be fully accessible if mounted with UDF
[08:07] <gary_> the project does not contain all necessary DVD video files
[08:07] <daquino> Hunding:  he said he wants a scriptable way.... sure you could use apt-cache but then youd have to filter the output to look for something like "installed = no/yes"
[08:08] <daquino> ardchoille:  what about pidgin ? anyway i liked compiling my own stuff
[08:08] <gary_> the resulting dvd will most likely not be playable on a hi-fi DVD player
[08:08] <gary_> could not determine size of resulting image file.
[08:08] <gary_> any ideas  ?
[08:09] <coreymon77> daquino: you dont have to compile pidgin, tehre is an ubuntu deb for it