[12:28] <marcher> windoze i just had enough off
[12:30] <marchukevich-m> ты вообще есть русские? )
[12:30] <emilsedgh> !ru | marchukevich-m
[12:39] <kaminix> Is Adobe's flash player made for GTK? Is that why it keeps crashing in Konqueror but works in Firefox?
[12:40] <moope1> compiz or beryl?
[12:41] <emilsedgh> kaminix: Flash Player 9 uses something that just exists in Firefox iirc
[12:43] <kaminix> emilsedgh: Any words about if that's going to be fixed in future versions?
[12:43] <emilsedgh> kaminix: i dont know.
[12:43] <kaminix> Hmm... but it does work in Konqueror... only it's quite unstable.
[12:44] <flaccid_> flash player or flash plugin?
[12:45] <kaminix> No idea, nonfree stuff anyway.
[12:46] <giacomo> !it
[12:47] <flaccid_> i don't believe flash player plugin uses either
[12:50] <lovre> anyone tried kubuntu 8.04 with kde4?
[12:51] <flaccid_> yeah
[12:51] <dustrial> lovre:  yeah on my laptop from beta till now
[12:52] <lovre> dustrial: does it have many bugs? I will install 8.04 but dont know between kde3 and kde4
[12:53] <flaccid_> well i feel as though its buggy
[12:54] <tamme> hi
[12:54] <ScorpKing> i just installed 8.04. someone mentioned problems with konsole but i don't see any. anyone know what the problems are?
[12:54] <Dr_willis> kde4  is not all that useable. Too many missing features
[12:55] <SlimeyPete> ScorpKing: I've not noticed any
[12:55] <dustrial> lovre: install kde3 if you are working productive
[12:55] <ScorpKing> SlimeyPete: ok thanks
[12:55] <lovre> dustrial: ok, thank you
[12:58] <krypto__> is there a way to import a pcf file in network-manager to config a vpn connection?
[12:59] <krypto__> it works when I connect with kvpnc but with network manager it doenst work
[13:00] <flaccid_> krypto__, i believe thats what kvpnc is for, not network manager
[13:00] <flaccid_> i could be wrong but. maybe network manager will get vpn support soon
[13:00] <tamme> how can I easily upload files over the internet to my PC?
[13:01] <krypto__> network manager can handle vpn connections as well when you install the network-manager-vpnc package
[13:01] <flaccid_> krypto__, google it. it looks like it might
[13:01] <flaccid_> well there you go
[13:01] <krypto__> yeah but it doesnt work
[13:01] <flaccid_> !doesntwork
[13:01] <Dr_willis> tamme,  dozens of ways.. ssh/scp is one fairly easy/secure way
[13:01] <cpk1> or wget, you didnt say where you were uploading from tamme
[13:02] <flaccid_> krypto__, what type of vpn
[13:02] <krypto__> the error message of network manager is not really helpful: "could no start vpn connection"
[13:02] <tamme> my friend is on a windows computer... and I only want some files
[13:03] <krypto__> flaccid: cisco vpn with vpnc
[13:03] <tamme> and he is not so god on PC things
[13:04] <krypto__> i think I made exactly the same config options on both tools, kvpnc and network manager... kvpnc works, network-manager doesnt
[13:04] <tamme> I tried it with vsftp but every time I want to upload something FireFTP says 553 Could not create file. : /a short story.odt
[13:05] <boaz_> Why does msiexec /i thebat_pro_4_0_24.msi fail to install The Bat! email client under Wine?
[13:05] <Dr_willis> tamme,   this is over the internet? or a lan?
[13:06] <tamme> internet
[13:06] <Dr_willis> tamme,  depending on the size of the files. It may be just easier to use one of those file-share/rapidshare sites.
[13:06] <cpk1> or even email
[13:06] <flaccid_> krypto__, ok then sorry mate. did you check logs?
[13:07] <cpk1> or ssh but I dont know what steps you need to do to get it to work with windows
[13:08] <Dr_willis> and it mayt be a hassle to mess with  any router/firewall/port forwarding stuff
[13:11] <krypto__> nothing helpful in the log files, alot of "waiting and scheduled" till I get a could not connect
[13:12] <Dr_willis> ssh + winscp is handy.
[13:14] <moope1> Best way of getting flash working on hardy is?
[13:18] <Fa> moope1: through the package manager
[13:20] <moope1> Fa, which package?
[13:21] <Fa> adept
[13:21] <moope1> que?
[13:21] <moope1> apt-get install.......
[13:21] <Fa> lol
[13:22] <Fa> i don't use the commline that much
[13:22] <Fa> command
[13:22] <moope1> pulse?
[13:22] <cpk1> moope1: flashplugin-nonfree will get flash up and running
[13:22] <Fa> click on start...applications...settings then package manager
[13:22] <Fa> search flash
[13:23] <moope1> cpk1: ta
[13:23] <Dr_willis> You might want to install 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' also - it grabs a lot of other things you proberly will want as well
[13:24] <moope1> mp3 support and the suchlike?
[13:24] <cpk1> moope1: yes
[13:24] <moope1> excellent
[13:25] <cpk1> although I dunno if that enables dvd playback
[13:32] <moope1> cpk1: Its meant to be my work machine :)
[13:42] <crazy_bus> is there a special way to use a program that uses jack in 8.04.  As I'm not sure how to
[13:43] <flaccid_> crazy_bus, jackd?
[13:44] <crazy_bus> flaccid_: thanks, trying that now
[13:44] <flaccid_> cool
[13:45] <kalib> mornig people
[13:45] <flaccid_> howdy
[13:45] <kalib> Guys...need some help here...
[13:45] <kalib> i can't configure the jre plugin on firefox 3.0 (the default one on kubuntu 8.04)
[13:46] <kalib> could anyone here do it correctly?
[13:46] <crazy_bus> flaccid_: is there anything to do after installing jackd?
[13:48] <flaccid_> crazy_bus, comes down to the program. but usually not
[13:49] <crazy_bus> flaccid  Any idea on qsynth.  It's still not recognising jack
[13:50] <flaccid_> is jack running?
[13:50] <flaccid_> jackd
[13:51] <crazy_bus> flaccid_: what should options should I use on jackd?
[13:52] <crazy_bus> mabey qjackctl will help
[13:53] <flaccid_> err crazy_bus ps aux | grep jackd
[13:53] <flaccid_> is it running?
[13:53] <flaccid_> and if it is and its not working with your app, you need to see what you have to do for jackd
[13:53] <crazy_bus> flaccid_: 14631  0.0  0.0   3008   756 pts/1    R+   22:53   0:00 grep jackd
[13:54] <JuJuBee> What is a *good* substitute for Dreamweaver on linux/
[13:55] <flaccid_> crazy_bus, sudo /etc/init.d/jackd start ?
[13:55] <flaccid_> !info nvu | JuJuBee
[13:55] <flaccid_> oh what a rip
[13:55] <flaccid_> !webauthoring
[13:55] <flaccid_> dang
[13:56] <crazy_bus> !info kompozer | JuJuBee
[13:56] <crazy_bus> JuJuBee: http://kompozer.sourceforge.net/
[13:57] <Jucato> !info kompozer hardy
[13:57] <JuJuBee> kompozer does not do the css hints for elements...
[13:58] <crazy_bus> flaccid_: qjackctl got it working
[13:58] <JuJuBee> I like the hints / auto complete that dreamweaver gives...
[13:58] <flaccid_> fair enough
[13:58] <JuJuBee> Wish they would release for linux...
[13:58] <flaccid_> only problem is DW is not really web standards. best to learn html/css properly
[13:59] <JuJuBee> I agree, but still nice to have the hints.  Saves typing and also lets me know *what* is available.
[14:00] <JuJuBee> I'm just learning css
[14:00] <JuJuBee> So,, why is DW not web standars?
[14:00] <JuJuBee> I thought it was
[14:02] <flaccid_> JuJuBee, better to use a real IDE then like Eclipse
[14:02] <JuJuBee> Hmm, will check it out.
[14:02] <JuJuBee> Linux?
[14:02] <flaccid_> its not valid, to get it right with webstandards you need to tweak. they are improving it but as there is a DW task force with webstandards.org
[14:02] <BonesolTeraDyne> JuJuBee: That's because DW's generated code doesn't always validate to W3C standards
[14:02] <flaccid_> yes linux and windows and whatever else
[14:03] <JuJuBee> Ah, java based...
[14:03] <JuJuBee> Cool.
[14:03] <JuJuBee> Installing now.
[14:04] <flaccid_> i don't think its made in java
[14:04] <JuJuBee> You are correct, it is a Java IDE also, didn't read far enough, my bad.
[14:05] <JuJuBee> How are you at display problems?
[14:05] <llutz> flaccid_: "open-source Integrated development environment (IDE) written primarily in Java. ..." (from wikipedia) :)
[14:05] <flaccid_> cool
[14:06] <flaccid_> im fine at display problems
[14:06] <flaccid_> rightio im wrong then
[14:06] <crazy_bus> JuJuBee: http://www.linux.com/feature/130601
[14:10] <JuJuBee> crazy_bus : looks like quanta plus wins
[14:12] <Pensacola> is there a way to do actions when the mouse touches a screen corner in kde4?
[14:12] <flaccid_> i've tried all those and they seemed alright, but yeah i have no idea what is good i think it comes down to the user and their needs. i only need kate.
[14:14] <JuJuBee> I use kate 99.9% of the time, but I would like to learn CSS and think an editor is helpful
[14:15] <Jucato> then you'd be happy to know that Quanta uses katepart as its text editor component
[14:15] <Jucato> so you get the features of Kate with the features of a Web IDE...
[14:16] <flaccid_> yeah i noticed that,then i noticed that i don't need it :)
[14:16] <flaccid_> ides for basic things like html and css kind of get in the way for me
[14:18] <nosrednaekim> ides kinda got in the way of Julius Ceaser....
[14:18] <frederick> hello all
[14:18] <nosrednaekim> sorry.... couldn't resist :P
[14:18] <frederick> anyone got experienced with linux mce ?
[14:19]  * Jucato whacks nosrednaekim senseless
[14:19] <nosrednaekim> frederick: not really.... there is a channel for that though
[14:19] <giacomo> !it
[14:19] <frederick> all right
[14:19] <frederick> where can i find this channel
[14:19] <Jucato> !linuxmce
[14:19] <frederick> please
[14:19] <Jucato> frederick: see above ^^^
[14:19] <frederick> thanks
[14:19] <frederick> :)
[14:19]  * nosrednaekim can't answer becuase he is senseless
[14:20]  * nosrednaekim makes Jucato do all the work today
[14:20] <Jucato> you wish! :P
[14:20] <flaccid_> haha
[14:20] <flaccid_> i need a beer to help atm i think
[14:21] <crazy_bus> is rosegarden the best program to try with qsynth. Or is there a lighter program I could use?
[14:21] <nosrednaekim> crazy_bus: you might get a better answer in #ubuntu-studio
[14:21] <crazy_bus> nosrednaekim: I did a few minutes ago, but have got no answer yet
[14:22] <Baulders> knetworkworkmanager still not support WPA and static IP's ?
[14:24] <flaccid_> crazy_bus, probably. qsynth is midi vst instrument? perhaps lmms .. ?
[14:24] <flaccid_> Baulders, it does support it yes
[14:25] <flaccid_> as long as the hardware on each end does
[14:25] <Baulders> wheres the file that holds what wifi device you've plugged in (eth1,2,3 etc...) I want to delete them and start again
[14:25] <CYREX> hello all
[14:25] <flaccid_> Baulders, delete all entries in /etc/network/interfaces besides localhost and then sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart and then restart knetworkmanager
[14:25] <moope1> I had all my virtual machines on a disk which was under LVM (there was only one disk but just in case you know). I have installed ubuntuy and would like to run it from there but how do I mount the disk?
[14:25] <CYREX> if i compile the .25 kernel on kubuntu will the nvidia drivers from the nvidia-new-glx still work afterwards?
[14:26] <nosrednaekim> CYREX: no
[14:26] <flaccid_> moope1, you can mount lvm directly iirc
[14:26] <nosrednaekim> CYREX: learned a bit too much in that session yesterday... eh? :P
[14:26] <moope1> flaccid_: yea, I have seen someone do lvm foo like this
[14:26] <moope1> but ...........I have no idea where to start!
[14:26] <sami> How i can change my linux partition size after install?
[14:26] <moope1> sami: LVM :)
[14:26] <nosrednaekim> sami: boot the liveCD again
[14:26] <flaccid_> moope1, mount /dev/sda1 for example
[14:27] <flaccid_> oops
[14:27] <flaccid_> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[14:27] <CYREX> hehe
[14:27] <CYREX> oki thanks
[14:28] <nosrednaekim> CYREX: yeah, you'll have to get the driver from nvidia
[14:28] <nosrednaekim> which, after compiling a whole kernel, should be nothing to you :P
[14:28] <Baulders> I only see WEP when configuring wifi though , no WPA (I'm running WPA but want static IP)
[14:28] <CYREX> only wanted to know if it will work for the .25 version or is it limited only for the .24
[14:28] <moope1> flaccid_: mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[14:28] <flaccid_> Baulders, configuring the wifi where?
[14:29] <flaccid_> moope1, we may need a package  or mount differently one sec
[14:29] <flaccid_> moope1, is that the actual dev for the logical part in sudo fdisk -l ?
[14:29] <Baulders> flaccid_: knetworkmanager or through system settings
[14:29] <flaccid_> Baulders, it will definately be in knetworkmanager if the AP supports it
[14:30] <moope1> flaccid yes
[14:30] <Baulders> so you saying I put my WPA key into where it says WEP?
[14:30] <flaccid_> moope1, gotta do it like this iirc mount /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 /mnt/VolGroup00/LogVol00
[14:30] <flaccid_> something like
[14:31] <flaccid_> Baulders, no it looks like it thinks there is no wpa on that access point
[14:31] <flaccid_> Baulders, check iwlist eth1 scanning <-- eth1 being the wireless logical device name
[14:31] <flaccid_> moope1, or that might be on fedora. one sec sorry
[14:32] <nosrednaekim> Baulders: flaccid_: iwlist eth1 scan   ........ not scanning
[14:32] <flaccid_> moope1, google helps: http://www.linux-sxs.org/storage/fedora2ubuntu.html
[14:32] <crazy_bus> flaccid_: thanks.  Still quite big, but I think I'll try it
[14:33] <flaccid_> nosrednaekim, either is fine
[14:33] <nosrednaekim> ah... so it is...my bad
[14:34] <Baulders> flaccid_: http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1rm9.png thats what I see
[14:35] <moope1> flaccid_ are you moving from fedora 2?
[14:35] <flaccid_> Baulders, you do not configure in system settings which is a static system thing. you configure in knetworkmanager which is user based
[14:35] <flaccid_> moope1, no thats just the example
[14:36] <flaccid_> Baulders, if you configure anything 'concrete' in system settings for the interface, you won't be able to configure it in knetworkmanager
[14:36] <nosrednaekim> flaccid_: manual setup is done via systemsettings
[14:36] <flaccid_> nosrednaekim, this is not manual setup, its user wpa
[14:36] <flaccid_> system settings does not support wpa
[14:36] <nosrednaekim> yeah.... but for static IP, you need manual setup
[14:37] <flaccid_> um not necessarily. still system settings doesn't support wpa.
[14:38] <nosrednaekim> thats true, yes
[14:38] <nosrednaekim> Baulders: why do you need static IP? does your router not have dhcp?
[14:39] <Baulders> yes, but have many things and need to now the IP's etc
[14:39] <nosrednaekim> Baulders: most wireless (and otherwise) routers have Mac address to IP configuration tables
[14:39] <nosrednaekim> so that you always get the same IP
[14:39] <flaccid_> yeah static dhcp
[14:40] <nosrednaekim> that would be far simpler
[14:40] <flaccid_> but from memory i believe if you put only the static ip in system settings you should still be able to associate with knetworkmanager
[14:40] <Baulders> my router is pants and I keep needing to reset it and thus all dhcp addresses change again :(
[14:40] <Nakkel> Why do I have to install libarts1-xine-package by hand to get Konqueror to generate thumbnail icons from video files? :( Couldnt it be installed by default?
[14:40] <flaccid_> actually no im wrong there. thats a real caveat i think...
[14:40] <nosrednaekim> flaccid_: yes, it is
[14:40] <flaccid_> Baulders, router model?
[14:40] <flaccid_> nosrednaekim, its a real caveat?
[14:41] <Baulders> flaccid_: Belkin rubbish
[14:41] <flaccid_> oh
[14:41] <flaccid_> jump over the fence then
[14:41] <nosrednaekim> flaccid_: well, if you use system settings to configure it once, you won't be able to configure it with knetworkmanager until you comment out certain lines in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:42] <flaccid_> nosrednaekim, yeah thats the caveat i was talking about. this is where windows wins!
[14:42] <nosrednaekim> :)
[14:43] <flaccid_> its not good. and also if you want to install system wpa, thats a bit more manual and not really documented
[14:43] <flaccid_> but it is possible in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:44] <okv> Has anyone else got this bug after upgrading to 8.04: In Adept when you click "manage repositories" it just fetches updates (same as the "fetch updates" button), so there is no way to manage repositories through Adept anymore?
[14:44] <flaccid_> wow that sounds like a big bug..
[14:44] <nosrednaekim> okv: haven't heard of, or seen that, no.
[14:45] <okv> I'll check if other items in the Adept menu also just fetch updates
[14:45] <okv> Other items in the Adept-menu seem to work as they should, safe-upgrade and full-upgrade, but the first two items in the menu are doing exactly same thing "fetch updates"
[14:46] <okv> Although the second item says "Manage repositories" and should take me into another window where I can manage repositories
[14:46] <amerigo> hello everibody...!!!
[14:46] <amerigo> I need an info
[14:47] <amerigo> where i can find kernel directory
[14:47] <flaccid_> well yes you want manage repositories
[14:47] <Baulders> sorry, i need to use wpasupplicant and alter /etc/network/interfaces then?
[14:47] <flaccid_> kernel what? locate kernel
[14:47] <okv> It's not only a menu problem, I made a toolbar button for "Manage Repositories" and when I click on that button, it also just fetches updates and does nothing else
[14:48] <amerigo> yes... locate server, i suppose
[14:48] <amerigo> Sorry for my english
[14:48] <flaccid_> Baulders, its directives for wpasupp in /etc/network/interfaces i just can't remember what - please try googling
[14:48] <amerigo> ehmm
[14:48] <amerigo> locate kernel
[14:49] <amerigo> ! kernel
[14:50] <flaccid_> Baulders, it could all be in here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[14:50] <flaccid_> !find kernel
[14:50] <flaccid_> !find linux-source
[14:50] <flaccid_> what specifically?
[14:51] <amerigo> uhmmm
[14:51] <amerigo> very well
[14:52] <stefan-f> Hello all: )
[14:53] <stefan-f> I did an upgrade to hardy yesterday, now I miss ksynaptic for my touchpad. Its gone during upgrade. Where can I find it now?
[14:54] <nosrednaekim> don't think its here anymore
[14:54] <llutz> stefan-f: better use qsynaptics now
[14:54] <nosrednaekim> use qsynaptics or gsynaptics
[14:54] <flaccid_> !find synaptic
[14:54] <flaccid_> !info ksynaptics
[14:55] <flaccid_> ubotu still uses gutsy?
[14:55] <nosrednaekim> !info ksynaptics hardy
[14:55] <blubb> anyone has an idea why my b43 driver does not work correctly?
[14:55] <nosrednaekim> yeah... apparently
[14:55] <llutz> ksynaptics dev stopeed work, better use something else
[14:55] <okv> I have huge list of packages in the apt-get saying "the following packages have been kept back", is there any way to make apt-get install those?
[14:55] <stefan-f> hmm, I can not find qsynaptics, gsynaptics is there but when I close it, its closed and not in tray
[14:56] <mars__> hi all
[14:57] <CYREX> okv for some reason the apt wont still them
[14:57] <CYREX> you COULD force them but that may lead to a broken package
[14:57] <CYREX> install*
[14:57] <amerigo> It's better that i explane my problem..... I'm going to install USB Modem on Kubuntu. In the makefile there's a string that set the variable KERNELDIR
[14:58] <jhutchins_wk> okv: Perhaps better to figure out _why_ they have been kept back and address that.
[14:58] <amerigo> KERNEL_SOURCES=/usr/src/linux
[14:58] <nosrednaekim> amerigo: did you run "sudo apt-get install build-essential" yet?
[14:58] <amerigo> I had to cange this in the root of my kernel
[14:58] <flaccid_> okv, try sudo apt-get install pkg1 pkg2 <-- substitue with the ones held back
[14:59] <amerigo> but i don't know where it is
[14:59] <amerigo> when i go in usr>>src>>    .... I can't find linux
[14:59] <amerigo> folder
[15:00] <amerigo> Ok I'm explaned
[15:00] <amerigo> I hope
[15:01] <amerigo> nosrednaekim: Already done "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[15:01] <flaccid_> amerigo, sudo apt-get install linux-source`uname -r`
[15:01] <flaccid_> brb amerigo if you are on generic that probably won't work
[15:01] <okv> flaccid_: There's like 100 packages there
[15:01] <okv> flaccid_: one of them is adept-manage,that might be the reason why my adept doesn't work as it should
[15:02] <jhutchins_wk> okv: Perhaps it would be helpful to google the error message?
[15:03] <okv> flaccid_: Installing them manually like you said seems to work. I just typed sudo apt-get install adept-manager and now it's installing it and all the dependencies. I'll do that to all the other 99 packages as well
[15:03] <okv> jhutchins_wk: I've googled it, didn't find any good explanation
[15:03] <flaccid_> okv, yeah normal process
[15:04] <flaccid_> !info linux-source
[15:04] <flaccid_> amerigo, which release and kernel are you on?
[15:05] <mefisto__> before upgrade to hardy I was using a patched ati driver, following instructions at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout and was working well. Just wondering will this driver work in hardy? Do I have to build the driver again, or can I just skip to the install stage?
[15:05] <amerigo> flaccid: i am on kubuntu
[15:06] <flaccid_> amerigo, please paste uname -a
[15:06] <amerigo> flaccid: what means 'uname -r' ????
[15:06] <amerigo> or what is uname??
[15:07] <CYREX> kernel release number
[15:07] <CYREX> type uname --help for more info
[15:07] <amerigo> excellent
[15:09] <okv> flaccid_: Doesn't work in the end. It installs packages, sets them up and suddenly I get message "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place" and it hangs there
[15:09] <okv> flaccid_: Googling for it
[15:10] <amerigo> Linux kubuntu 2.6.15-51-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue Feb 12 16:52:52 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:10] <flaccid_> okv, that is a normal message, you have to wait
[15:10] <flaccid_> amerigo, now  apt-cache search linux-source please
[15:11] <amerigo> linux-source - Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches
[15:11] <amerigo> linux-source-2.6.15 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches
[15:12] <flaccid_> amerigo, i guess thats a meta package. can you let me know the result of sudo apt-get install linux-source
[15:13] <flaccid_> if that doesn't work then sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15 will work
[15:13] <amerigo> ..........It try to install linux-source-2.6.15
[15:14] <flaccid_> sweet
[15:14] <amerigo> ok ... installing
[15:14] <flaccid_> well thats what you want..
[15:14] <flaccid_> if thats not enough, you may need the headers as well amerigo
[15:15] <amerigo> But this is an upgrading ?????
[15:15] <amerigo> I thought that I already have kernel installed....
[15:15] <flaccid_> no this is install the source code that you need for what you are doing
[15:16] <flaccid_> linux-source = kernel source != kernel itself
[15:17] <amerigo> My need was only to know in what directory was the kernel...
[15:17] <amerigo> KERNEL_SOURCES=/usr/src/linux
[15:17] <amerigo> only change this string
[15:17] <flaccid_> like i said kernel != kernel sources
[15:17] <flaccid_> so you are wrong with you think you needed
[15:17] <ubuntu-dron> Hello there. Some help needed. When upgading from 7.10 to 8.04, upgraded NetworkManager does not work. It seems to ignore /etc/network/interfaces, and to blank it once per... 15 minutes or so i guess . Tried clean install, but that wasn't of any effect. The trouble stays the same. Googled a lot, but didn't find anything interesting. Can anyone help me here?
[15:18] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu-dron: do you have wireless?
[15:19] <ubuntu-dron> nosrednaekim: yes
[15:19] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu-dron: ah.. ok... otherwise I was going to say to scrap network manager :)
[15:19] <ubuntu-dron> nosrednaekim: but wired net also seems broken :(
[15:19] <nosrednaekim> I've never seen that though. could you file a bug please?
[15:19] <flaccid_> did you check logs dron?
[15:20] <nosrednaekim> ah.. true... dmesg might be helpful
[15:20] <flaccid_> cat /var/log/messages
[15:21] <ubuntu-dron> NOthing helpful
[15:21] <flaccid_> dron does your connection require security like wep or wpa?
[15:21] <ubuntu-dron> Yet, will file a bug, and then we'll se the results... Maybe it is the bug of a NM itself?
[15:21] <ubuntu-dron> flaccid_
[15:22] <ubuntu-dron> requires wep hex
[15:22] <flaccid_> dron then remove any entries for that device from /etc/network/interfaces and use knetworkmanager
[15:22] <flaccid_> i don't see a bug yet
[15:23] <okv> I think the problem was that my upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 was not complete, and lots of the packages were "kept back" by apt-get
[15:23] <flaccid_> okv, yeah
[15:23] <ubuntu-dron> flaccid_: I tried. But it simply won't connect to network. Even when it is unprotected
[15:24] <ubuntu-dron> flaccid_: the wireless card is Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[15:24] <mefisto__> Need advice building ati video driver. Before upgrade to hardy I was using a patched ati driver, following instructions at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout and was working well. Just wondering will this driver work in hardy? Do I have to build the patched driver again, or can I just skip to the install stage?
[15:24] <flaccid_> ubuntu-dron, at that point was anything in your /etc/network/interfaces besides localhost?
[15:24] <ubuntu-dron> flaccid_: no
[15:25] <flaccid_> perhaps it is a bug
[15:25] <flaccid_> what does knetworkmanager get up to then?
[15:25] <ubuntu-dron> flaccid_: even when tried to define the interfaces there, it was blanked in 15-20 minutes or so
[15:26] <flaccid_> i don't know what blanked means
[15:26] <ubuntu-dron> flaccid_: pardon me. it was restored to the previous state. Like it was never edited
[15:27] <ubuntu-dron> flaccid_: *had been.
[15:27] <flaccid_> ah ok
[15:27] <flaccid_> even though you confirmed it was saved?
[15:28] <steelsnake> silly question... did you edit it by hand while network manager was running? or from within network manager? or any other way?
[15:28] <ubuntu-dron> flaccid_: exactly
[15:28] <steelsnake> oke that was 3 questions ;)
[15:28] <flaccid_> sounds like a bug now, but dron i would also recommend removing avahi / avahi-daemon <-- much problems like that i have experienced
[15:28] <ubuntu-dron> steelsnake: NM stopped, then the file edited
[15:29] <steelsnake> ah oke. no idea what causes that then, sorry
[15:29] <ubuntu-dron> flaccid_: really? 0_o everything works just fine on gutsy...
[15:30] <flaccid_> thats what everyone says
[15:30] <flaccid_> in reality there is problems with every release
[15:31] <ubuntu-dron> flaccid_: yes indeed :)
[15:31] <icewaterman> i have both windows and linux installed on one box (on different harddrives) and the clock in windows xp runs 2 hours behind
[15:32] <ubuntu-dron> allright, thanks to all. will fo report a bug perhaps
[15:33] <steelsnake> sounds like timezones might be off, icewaterman
[15:33] <flaccid_> icewaterman, if its not different timezone then it could be UTC, turn it off in linux
[15:34] <flaccid_> actually sorry turn off utc in bios for clock
[15:34] <steelsnake> ...or that... i'd have suggested to tell windows to use UTC :)
[15:34] <flaccid_> yeah sorry my memory is bad its something like that
[15:34] <icewaterman> steelsnake: i found something how to teach windows to use utc
[15:34] <icewaterman> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInformation] "RealTimeIsUniversal"=dword:00000001
[15:34] <flaccid_> cppl
[15:34] <flaccid_> cool
[15:35] <steelsnake> yeh i know... i set all my windows boxes to use UTC, much more convenient IMO.
[15:35] <Freku> after upgrade i got both kde3 and kde4 applications in menu
[15:35] <Freku> how to get rid of kde 3 ?
[15:36] <flaccid_> Freku, if someone doesn't know hear perhaps #kde or #ubuntu-kde4
[15:36] <Freku> ah ok
[15:36] <Freku> ill try that
[15:36] <blubb> in which package is the ndiswrapper module?
[15:37] <flaccid_> !info ndiswrapper
[15:37] <flaccid_> !ndiswrapper | blubb
[15:37] <flaccid_> sorry i'll have a look
[15:38] <stdin> it's in linux-ubuntu-modules-$(uname -r)
[15:38] <flaccid_> !info ndiswrapper-common
[15:38] <flaccid_> true
[15:38] <reginatto> the traditional way to add jre plugin at mozilla firefox 3 and 2 (creating a simbolic link to the plugin), doesn't work in my kubuntu/kde4. Does anyone know how to do it?
[15:39] <blubb> flaccid_: i guess that does not answer my question
[15:40] <stdin> blubb: look at my answer then
[15:40] <blubb> oh thanks a lot
[15:40] <flaccid_> ah yeah stdin is the man
[15:40] <flaccid_> im way behind..
[15:40] <stdin> dpkg -S  ftw
[15:42] <blubb> stdin: but if I don't know where the modules was... gg
[15:42] <blubb> thanks it worked
[15:42] <stdin> blubb: I did "dpkg -S ndiswrapper.ko"
[15:43] <stdin> you can search on packages.ubuntu.com too
[15:43] <flaccid_> like /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/misc/ndiswrapper ?
[15:43] <flaccid_> ah ok
[15:44] <flaccid_> stdin, what you running for your desktop atm?
[15:44] <stdin> Hardy/KDE4
[15:45] <flaccid_> sweet as. what sort of GPU ?
[15:45] <blubb> ok
[15:46] <stdin> flaccid: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[15:46] <stdin> does what I need it to ;)
[15:47] <stdin> and I don't need special restricted drivers from hell
[15:47] <flaccid_> coolio. im just a bit worried about people having crashes on logout with the prop. drivers for nvidia and ati
[15:47] <flaccid_> on the hardy
[15:47] <flaccid_> i got it myself
[15:47] <steelsnake> i've had that with Gutsy too, haven't tried on hardy yet
[15:47] <stdin> I can't test it, I don't have a system with either :p
[15:47] <flaccid_> yeah its a bit common in the last couple releases
[15:47] <steelsnake> funny though not crashing at work, just at home
[15:48] <flaccid_> i've had it on new and old cards. its a pity not much luck on the ubuntu installs lately
[15:48] <steelsnake> at work its 4x nvidia 5500's, at home an ATI x1650
[15:49] <attila__> anybody knows how to fix a blank screen startup?
[15:49] <flaccid_> ati 9600 radeon mobility m30 on my notebook is what is a pita for me
[15:49] <steelsnake> works with the default driver (forgot what that one is - VESA?)
[15:49] <flaccid_> attila__, press ctrl+alt+f2, do you get a tty login?
[15:49] <flaccid_> i need restricted driver for playing wolf et
[15:49] <steelsnake> and what graphics card, attila? :)
[15:49] <steelsnake> yep same here flaccid
[15:50] <flaccid_> i will be testing hardy with a new nvidia 9600GT soon which is a very fat card
[15:50] <attila__> Intel 845
[15:51] <steelsnake> i'll probably build a gaming rig this fall... but i'll put windows on it, makes more sense for playing games. Linux for work, windows for toys ;)
[15:52] <steelsnake> hmm that's a lappy, attila?
[15:52] <attila__> no, older rebuilt tower
[15:52] <flaccid_> !intel
[15:52] <flaccid_> !video
[15:53] <steelsnake> ah oke
[15:53] <flaccid_> sorry i look
[15:53] <steelsnake> i'd just disable the boot splash and boot in text mode - X does come up ok though, right?
[15:54] <steelsnake> just no boot splash?
[15:54] <attila__> correct
[15:54] <flaccid_> !intelfix
[15:54] <Pici> !intelhda
[15:54] <flaccid_> did you get a tty attila__ ?
[15:55] <steelsnake> if you don't mind not having a graphical splash screen, disable it in /boot/grub/menu.lst (change splash to nosplash)
[15:55] <flaccid_> attila__, you might need to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-0e3051713171cb5d1bf49dc2dc7bea24eb9ed83e
[15:55] <stefan-f> this is OT: someone knows how can I get cpuinfo, raminfo hddinfo on AIX 4.3? Or where I can get some more information about AIX?
[15:55] <attila__> tty? (sorry, newb)
[15:55] <flaccid_> attila__, login when you press ctrl+alt+f2
[15:56] <stefan-f> and how to get some information about the system?
[15:56] <jhutchins_wk> stefan-f: You can purchase support from IBM.
[15:56] <stefan-f> :(
[15:56] <flaccid_> !google
[15:56] <jhutchins_wk> stefan-f: Actually, there should be plenty of AIX info on the web.
[15:57] <flavia> hi, how do I get a kodak easyshare camera to work?
[15:57] <stefan-f> do you have some good links?
[15:57] <Pici> stefan-f: Perhaps try asking in ##unix and maybe ##linux too
[15:57] <stefan-f> ahh,okay! thanks!!
[15:57] <flaccid_> flavia, did you try google?
[15:58] <flaccid_> flavia, check support in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaDigitalCamerasKodak?highlight=%28kodak%29
[15:58] <CoCaInE> Umm any way to fix sound problem after 7,10 - 8,04 patch ? :>
[15:58] <steelsnake> flavia: checked digiKam? if it has your camera model in it?
[16:00] <MintLars> Hi, I've got trouble starting zeroconf in systemsettings. When checking the "enable zeroconf"-checkbox, I get this error in the terminal when clicking apply: "/usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi: command not found". Anyone know what to do?
[16:00] <doobiesnaks> test
[16:00] <doobiesnaks> werd
[16:00] <doobiesnaks> peeps
[16:00] <MintLars> ...and yes, I've tried google
[16:00] <doobiesnaks> whatcha looking for
[16:01] <flaccid_> MintLars, which version of ubuntu?
[16:02] <MintLars> 8.04, recently upgraded
[16:02] <jo4> can i use the 8.04 LTS alternate install cd for a network install?
[16:03] <sypher_time> yes you can!
[16:03] <jo4> ok
[16:03] <jo4> sweet
[16:03] <flaccid_> MintLars, does sudo dpkg -l | grep avahi-daemon return a pkg ?
[16:04] <MintLars> flaccid_: gives this: ii  avahi-daemon                               0.6.22-2ubuntu4                                    Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD daemon
[16:04] <flavia> stefan-f: steelsnake: it's a kodak easyshare c743. it is present in digikam but I can't connect to it... I'm wondering if my cable is maybe broken
[16:04] <dustrial> help, while installing alsa ... make fails!
[16:05] <flaccid_> MintLars, this file doesn't exist in hardy
[16:05] <ubuntu> hello
[16:06] <ubuntu> i'm french
[16:06] <MintLars> flaccid_: well, I'm running hardy for sure
[16:06] <MintLars> upgraded two days ago
[16:06] <flaccid_> yeah im looking , seems like its in gutsy
[16:06] <ubuntu> Can you give me the french #kubuntu ?
[16:06] <flaccid_> !fr | ubuntu
[16:07] <ubuntu> thank you
[16:07] <flaccid_> let me see if i can pastebin it
[16:07] <MintLars> flaccid_: I also found this in launchpad, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/146807, but I have no idea how to include the script
[16:08] <flaccid_> is somebody on gutsy here? can you please pastebin /usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi
[16:08] <flaccid_> if its ascii
[16:09] <flaccid_> im not sure what you mean
[16:10] <MintLars> flaccid_: the bug is exactly the same problem I have, and there's a fix in the comments, but I don't know what to do with it
[16:10] <flaccid_> try sudo touch /usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi
[16:11] <flaccid_> someone on gutsy just needs to pastebin the file for you
[16:11] <flaccid_> im on windows atm so can't even open the pkg
[16:11] <MintLars> ok
[16:12] <MintLars> should I get an output with that command, 'cause I don't
[16:12] <flaccid_> nah its blank for now
[16:12] <flaccid_> so http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/avahi-daemon
[16:12] <flaccid_> download the .deb and then open it and then looko at the script and copy it
[16:13] <MintLars> looko?
[16:13] <flaccid_> look
[16:13] <MintLars> :)
[16:13] <flaccid_> sorry
[16:13] <ct529> hi there
[16:13] <ct529> I did apt-get update / apt-get upgrade
[16:13] <ct529> and i got the message
[16:14] <ct529> The following packages have been kept back:
[16:14] <ct529>   r-base r-base-core r-base-dev r-cran-rpart r-recommended
[16:14] <flaccid_> submit a bug after MintLars ..
[16:14] <ct529> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[16:14] <ct529> what does that mean?
[16:14] <ct529> never happened before ....
[16:14] <giacomo> !it
[16:14] <flaccid_> ct529, try sudo apt-get install r-base r-base-core r-base-dev r-cran-rpart r-recommended
[16:14] <flaccid_> !pastebin | ct529
[16:14] <MintLars> flaccid_: thanks, I'll see what I can do, but I'm kind of a n00b so I'm not sure it'll work
[16:15] <ct529> flaccid_: sorry, I thought 3 linbes was not considered a large text, that is why I did not use pastebin
[16:15] <flaccid_> i count 8 in total ct529
[16:16] <flaccid_> MintLars, it should just be a text script
[16:16] <flaccid_> so you can open with kdesudo kate
[16:17] <ct529> flaccid_: sorry, why 8????
[16:17] <ct529> flaccid_: I only posted 3 together ....
[16:17] <MintLars> like I said, I'll see if I can do this, but I have SOME confidence at least :)
[16:17] <flaccid_> you could also count !ether ct529
[16:17] <flaccid_> !enter
[16:18] <flaccid_> MintLars, should be able to open it in kde after download then find the file in it. the .deb is like an archive
[16:19] <ct529> flaccid_: what does !enter mean?
[16:19] <flaccid_> just try to put everything on 1 line
[16:19] <ct529> !enter
[16:19] <flaccid_> eg. hi there  I did apt-get update / apt-get upgrade  and i got the message: <pastebin link>
[16:20] <ct529> flaccid_: ok
[16:21] <noobuntu> been trying to install oracle 11g using a specific oracle install account but it keeps failing as i can't seem to run any xserver apps using that account; i keep getting "Error: Can’t open display". any ideas?
[16:24] <tgreer> Hi... I have 2 questions....1) how can I make a key (115) act as my right mousebutton? or even better right mouse button = key + mouse click
[16:24] <tgreer> 2) anyone good with wpa_supplicant?
[16:24] <flaccid_> im off
[16:25] <yao_ziyuan> can anyone send me kubuntu 8.04's default taskbar background image?
[16:25] <yao_ziyuan> to my mailbox<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:26] <ct529> does anyone remeber the orginal ubuntu background, when ubuntu was launched? I cannot find it anymore .... do you know where it is?
[16:26] <patch> I am having some trouble getting 3D to work on a compaq presario v6000 with a Geforce GO 6150
[16:26] <patch> the restricted drives just lock up my X session
[16:27] <yao_ziyuan> can anyone send your /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/kubuntu-panel.png to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:28] <yao_ziyuan> i wonder what is linux's file bitwise comparison command?
[16:28] <yao_ziyuan> in windows it's "FC /B"
[16:28] <okv> Has anyone got flashplugin to work with the latest opera on 8.04?
[16:29] <llutz> yao_ziyuan: "cmp" compares byte by byte
[16:31] <wesley> where can i find the exsting kernel ?
[16:33] <shtumf> Hi,
[16:33] <trappist> wesley: what exactly are you looking for, the kernel image file?
[16:33] <trappist> and by existing do you mean running?
[16:33] <noobuntu> Anyone familiar with installing oracle 11g on kubuntu?
[16:33] <wesley> uh no wanna add a patch
[16:34] <trappist> wesley: you need the kernel source then, so you can compile it....
[16:35] <trappist> I don't have the link handy, and the bot is MIA, but there's a kernel compile howto on the wiki
[16:35] <wesley>  i can not add a line ?
[16:35] <wesley> where that how to? i have a other but maby the one you name is better
[16:35] <trappist> wesley: if you have a patch, you have to patch the kernel *source code*.  Then compile the kernel and install.
[16:36] <trappist> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[16:36] <wesley> thats ( i did on mandriva kernel compiling and after i was trying to mess things up i had cpufreq
[16:36] <trappist> wesley: this is not for beginners.  if you've never compiled software before, you could have a hard time
[16:37] <wesley> trappist i not a beginnere anymore i am learning i piece by piece if it goes wring i start afain
[16:38] <trappist> wesley: good deal :)  building your own kernel isn't usually recommended with ubuntu, but it's a good learning experience
[16:39] <rjune_> I recently upgraded from gutsy to hardy, during the upgrade, ALT-F2 stopped working. it's still configured in KDE, but the keystroke seems to not be recognized. any suggestions?
[16:40] <wesley> trappist i know but you cant always depend on others
[16:41] <trappist> true
[16:41] <trappist> rjune_: are you running compiz?
[16:41] <wesley> if ubuntu does not add the patch then you dont have much choice or you wait or do it yourself
[16:41] <trappist> wesley: what's the patch for?
[16:41] <rjune_> trappist: don't think so
[16:42] <rjune_> nope
[16:42] <wesley> trappist its enable cpufreq for celerons
[16:42] <rjune_> I'm thinking the run widget got moved to a separate package which hasn't been updated
[16:42] <trappist> rjune_: is kded running?
[16:42] <rjune_> yup
[16:43] <tgreer> how do i emulate a right click using a key on the keyboard in KDE?
[16:43] <trappist> wesley: what celeron do you have?
[16:43] <ubuntu_> scuse me
[16:44] <wesley> trappist celeron 540
[16:44] <ubuntu_> can you giva me the french #kubuntu again ?
[16:45] <trappist> wesley: I don't have a celeron, but the google hits suggest it should work without patching
[16:45] <trappist> ubuntu_: #kubuntu-fr
[16:45] <wesley> trappist no its reported as a bug
[16:45] <trappist> ah
[16:45] <wesley> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/177646
[16:46] <wesley> and there a patch released
[16:46] <moope1> If I wanted to have openoffice 2.4 and 3 on my heron what would be the best way of doing that?
[16:46] <moope1> chroot?
[16:46] <mortalpendrive> holllaaaaaa
[16:46] <rjune_> trappist: any other ideas?
[16:47] <mortalpendrive> hello
[16:47] <shtumf> does anyone know where in Europe could I buy stuff like caps,cups,t-shirts,etc ? Kubuntu inspired ofcourse ?
[16:47] <trappist> wesley: yep, I see, thanks
[16:47] <mortalpendrive> i need help width converts mdb to odb
[16:48] <trappist> rjune_: I've never seen this one before, those were my only guesses
[16:48] <trappist> mortalpendrive: mdb like an access database file?
[16:48] <wesley> and the patch works
[16:48] <tales_2010> is there a way to disable that menu that appears around an icon when you put the curson over it?
[16:49] <mortalpendrive> yes , data and reports
[16:49] <trappist> mortalpendrive: I'm not aware of any linux tools for managing access databases
[16:50] <trappist> mortalpendrive: I take that back, try installing mdbtools and mdbtools-gmdb
[16:51] <mortalpendrive> ohhh thanks you !!!!
[16:51] <stdin> wesley: I suggest you read what Matthew Garrett says, he knows a lot more about the kernel than most
[16:53] <yao_ziyuan> I SIMPLY WORSHIP KUBUNTU 7.10'S DEFAULT STYLE AND KWIN!
[16:53] <stdin> !caps
[16:53] <trappist> oh there's the bot
[16:54] <wesley> stdin he says it does not lower the powe usage ?
[16:55] <stdin> wesley: it only throttles it rather than scales it, so it's a heat control measure rather than a power control one
[16:56] <stdin> CPU still runs at full power, just runs slower
[16:56] <wesley> so it does not save realy much energy more that what he says?
[16:56] <stdin> the only way it saves energy is by the fan not turning on as much I guess
[16:57] <wesley> i gues it doest hurt to try it but indeed i dont believe it saves much energy
[16:58] <wesley> but the intel celeron 540 should have power saving options
[16:58] <stdin> celerons are cheep for a reason ;)
[17:00] <wesley> stdin but under windows i could save energy by setting cpufreq low so this should also be able in linux
[17:01]  * lombra esta fora: Saindo por enquanto.
[17:01] <stdin> wesley: it's the same in windows, it just says it's scaling but it's throttling
[17:02] <wesley> but its saves energy?
[17:03] <stdin> wesley: it really depends on exactly what you do with your system. the best way to find out is to see how long your battery lasts with the CPU not throttled and how long when it is
[17:03] <amerigo> ! games
[17:03] <amerigo> somebody can define this:
[17:03] <amerigo> Set the variable KERNELDIR in the Makefile's
[17:03] <amerigo> to point to your kernel sources if the first option in chosen.
[17:04] <amerigo> how can i define this point??
[17:04] <wesley> yeah i know but guidance-manager says 1.50 min doest mean this is right ?
[17:05] <stdin> estimates aren't always right (in fact mine are almost always wrong)
[17:06] <ubuntu__> sorry it's me...
[17:06] <amerigo> any ideas?
[17:06] <wesley> do you think it under restimates how long you battery last ?
[17:06] <ubuntu__> can you give me the french #kubuntu again again
[17:06] <stdin> !fr
[17:06] <ubuntu__> ok
[17:06] <stdin> wesley: sometimes, and sometimes it says I have 10 mins when I have 5
[17:06] <ubuntu__> !fr
[17:10] <wesley> where do i find the ubuntu kernel source that i download with apt-get??
[17:11] <emilsedgh> wesley: probably launchpad.net
[17:11] <stdin> "sudo apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)" to get the version you have now
[17:11] <stdin> erm, no sudo there actually
[17:11] <stdin> there is a package called "linux-source" too i think
[17:11] <wesley> yeah i installed that but i need to get by the kernel
[17:12] <wesley> i need to apply the patch
[17:13] <Robert125> How do I ignore the enter- and exit- messages with Kopete?
[17:13] <stdin> the source is located in /usr/src
[17:13] <emilsedgh> Robert125: you could change it from your Accounts settings
[17:13] <stdin> !kernel | wesley, you'll have to recompile the kernel after you patch it
[17:14] <wesley> i know got to how to one old debian way and other from ubuntu
[17:17] <hdevalence> After upgrading to Hardy, knetworkmanager no longer sees any of my network interfaces
[17:19] <hugodidier_> HOLA
[17:20] <hdevalence> and I could configure the network manually using iwconfig, but I don't want to because then KNetworkManager doesn't work
[17:22] <nguyed> it's a wireless connection?  Because I connect to my router wirelessly, and when I install kubuntu for the first time, it often says that I don't have a network device...
[17:23] <hdevalence> nguyed: it doesn't see either eired or wireless
[17:23] <hdevalence> wired
[17:23] <hdevalence> right now I'm using a wire and sudo dhclient
[17:24] <hdevalence> maybe I'll try rebooting
[17:29] <Devourer> So... my sound still doesn't work.
[17:33] <wesley> does celeron not have acpi-cpufreq?
[17:33] <genii> wesley: As I understand the celerons have fixed ratios so the scaling is lmited
[17:33] <stdin> wesley: because it's a lower quality CPU
[17:34] <genii> stdin: Hiya
[17:34]  * stdin waves coffee at genii
[17:34] <stdin> s/coffee// ;)
[17:34] <wesley> yeah i understand but they are also not what you call bad
[17:34]  * genii sips on the coffee
[17:35] <genii> stdin: Thanks, as usual :)
[17:35] <stdin> celerons are simply have less code, so can do less
[17:35] <wesley> you can not put new cpu in a notebook?
[17:35] <Devourer> stdin, s/coffee //   <- Fix'd
[17:36] <stdin> if you were really a sed-head, you'd have used \s :p
[17:36] <genii> wesley: Not usually
[17:36] <Devourer> stdin, what does \s do?
[17:36] <stdin> it means space
[17:37] <Devourer> stdin, oh.
[17:37] <wesley> genii i though this already but then again celerons a good enough ( bet my notebook just ships with cheap battery )
[17:37] <stdin> echo " coffee "|sed 's/\s//g' -> "coffee"
[17:37] <Devourer> stdin, I don't  know regex... :'(
[17:37] <stdin> Devourer: no one does
[17:38] <Devourer> Lool
[17:38] <dwidmann> stdin, you really think so?
[17:38] <Devourer> stdin, what is sed?
[17:38] <genii> wesley: The time remaining that is usually indicated on power manager is not normally very accurate also. It of course depends much on how many usb things you have plugged, etc etc
[17:38] <dwidmann> Devourer: sed is a stream editor
[17:38] <stdin> Devourer: stream editor for filtering and transforming text
[17:39] <stdin> dwidmann: depends which standard of regex are you on about
[17:39] <Devourer> I have some real questions, why in KDE4 do I see my applications on all the desktops when it says they are only on one?
[17:40] <x-X-x> im trying to install wine 9.45 so i can have warcraft 3 hosting support but the .deb says i need package libldap2, and libldap2 is obsolete and has been replaced what do i do ?
[17:40] <dwidmann> Devourer: probably a bug, KDE4 has lots of bugs.
[17:40] <wesley> genii in windows my battery lasted for 3 hours this is normal  i gues ?
[17:40] <stdin> x-X-x: libldap2 exists here
[17:40] <x-X-x> huh?
[17:40] <x-X-x> repo says its obsolete
[17:41] <Devourer> dwidmann, would you recommend I go back to KDE 3.5 if I don't want to deal with strange bugs?
[17:41] <genii> wesley: 2.5-4 hours is normal, depending on different factors like screen brightness, external devices being powered by the laptop, etc
[17:41] <dwidmann> wesley: might be normal, but it's not great ... I get about 6 or so with my laptop
[17:41] <x-X-x> and i have a new version installed of whatever replaces it but the wine9.45.deb says " error: dependancy libldap2 not installed "
[17:41] <dwidmann> Devourer: yeah, but if you don't mind filing bug reports then I'd say stay with KDE4
[17:42] <wesley> dwidmann bet you got at expensive laptop ?
[17:42] <stdin> x-X-x: ah yeah, it exists (is installed), but it's not in the repos
[17:42] <dwidmann> wesley: not really
[17:42] <wesley> what then ?
[17:42] <dwidmann> wesley: well, expensive is relative
[17:42] <dwidmann> wesley: $1350
[17:42] <genii> dwidmann: 1 external USB drive powered by the bus will suck an hour off the time easy
[17:42] <Devourer> dwidmann, meh...
[17:43] <wesley> dwidmann you see its the double my notebook cost 500 euro
[17:43] <stdin> x-X-x: you can use "--ignore-depends" with dpkg if you're sure you have all the deps
[17:43] <dwidmann> wesley: that's seriously not double
[17:43] <wesley> euro,s are more worth then dollar
[17:43] <x-X-x> stdin: .deb says this " package: wine Status: Error: Dependancy is not satisfiable: libldap2" btw this .deb is for feisty 7.04 and i have ubuntu hardy installed
[17:44] <stdin> x-X-x: that's the reason then ;)
[17:44] <dwidmann> wesley: 500 euro = 780 USD
[17:45] <x-X-x> stdin u use wine ?
[17:45] <wesley> okay almost the double then
[17:45] <stdin> x-X-x: only when I need to, and I hardy ever need to
[17:45] <x-X-x> k
[17:45] <wesley> i got just cheap acer but with 2 gb memory
[17:46] <dwidmann> wesley: I was just smart about which components I picked ...... core 2 duo processor was a must for battery life, any of them would have done nicely, 5400rpm hdd, 9 cell Li-I battery .... and when running on battery I let CPU scaling kick in and turn the screen brightness down a bit
[17:47] <XyQrTw> Hello All
[17:48] <XyQrTw> (Excuse me but i'm french) I've some problems with my printer on Kubuntu, i dont find the driver ... who can help me ?
[17:49] <dwidmann> wesley: and to add a bit, I went with intel integrated graphics and wireless ..... that should keep power down a bit too
[17:49] <wesley> dwidmann me to should ive picked the dual core then i probly would had problens with the nvidia or ati card in it
[17:50] <wesley> i got vga from intel to
[17:50] <x-X-x> so libldap2 went obsolete when hardy went final ?
[17:50] <x-X-x> stdin*
[17:50] <dwidmann> I wish I knew what was up with printers in Kubuntu hardy :(
[17:50] <genii> XyQrTw: Looking your printer model up on here can be useful to know what driver it may use, or if it even works well with linux at all http://www.linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi
[17:51] <dwidmann> Printing worked fine in Gutsy ... but I can't get it to work at all in hardy :(
[17:52] <stdin> x-X-x: it never made it into hardy at all afaik
[17:53] <stdin> x-X-x: maybe the early alphas
[17:53] <XyQrTw> genii: It say i must use HPLIP, this program is for local printing ?
[17:54] <genii> XyQrTw: Yes, for local or remote. Specifically to deal with HP printers
[17:56] <x-X-x> stdin k btw how do i run a .deb through terminal ?
[17:57] <x-X-x> dpkg or aptitude?
[17:57] <stdin> x-X-x: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[17:57] <tycale_> Hello
[17:57] <stdin> x-X-x: but you'd use "sudo dpkg -i --force-depends filename.deb"
[17:57] <tycale_> I don't know if I'm on Hardy Heron
[17:58] <x-X-x> stdin will that add the package to package manager so i can easily uninstall it like i would any other package manager app ?
[17:58] <stdin> x-X-x: yep
[17:58] <tycale_> Can you help me ?
[17:58] <x-X-x> stdin i luv u
[17:58] <XyQrTw> genii: I can't use this program, it dont find my printer, it is on my neufbox
[17:58] <stdin> !version
[17:58] <tycale_> ty
[17:58] <tycale_> ok 7.10
[17:58] <JuJuBee> I would like to get the image libraries (GD?) into php on my server.  How do I do that?
[17:59] <JuJuBee> DO I need to recompile php?
[17:59] <tycale_> aptitude upgrade is going to install 8.0 ?
[17:59] <tycale_> You need to change a file to enable GD, i think
[18:00] <stdin> !upgrade | tycale_
[18:00] <tycale_> ty  stdin, love your nick :D
[18:00] <stdin> that's why I choose it :)
[18:01] <x-X-x> omg it says dpkg: --ignore-depends requires a legal package name
[18:01] <JuJuBee> tycale_ : any idea which file?
[18:01] <stdin> x-X-x: try: --ignore-depends=wine
[18:01] <tycale_> I look after
[18:02]  * lombra voltou.
[18:02] <tycale_> JuJuBee: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[18:02] <stdin> x-X-x: if not, then --ignore-depends=libldap2
[18:02] <tycale_> after, see if the line extension=gd.so is right
[18:02] <tycale_> and reload apache2
[18:03] <tycale_> or try to install php-gd
[18:03] <tycale_> php5-gd
[18:04] <tycale_> I think sudo aptitude install php5-gd is the best way
[18:04] <JuJuBee> Thanks, working
[18:04] <dwidmann> XyQrTw: I can't seem to get it to pick up my printer either .... it had no problem accessing network printers (cups) in gutsy :(
[18:05] <XyQrTw> dwidmann: i try to add my printer with config of kubuntu, but my driver is not in list.
[18:05] <JuJuBee> Thanks for the top tycale_  it works like a charm.
[18:06] <dwidmann> XyQrTw: I noticed that too, my printer isn't in the list ....
[18:06] <dwidmann> XyQrTw: even though the driver is installed
[18:06] <spykedtomato> can anyone tell me how long the update should take me @ 6Mbit connection? I'd like to upgrade to remix...
[18:07] <jhutchins_wk> spykedtomato: You usually won't get more than 300K from the servers.
[18:07] <jhutchins_wk> spykedtomato: 300K/s.
[18:08] <spykedtomato> jhutchins_wk: ok, doesn't sound too bad - any major issues with upgrading so far that you've heard about?
[18:09] <jhutchins_wk> spykedtomato: Generally agreed that it's one of the worst releases ever, upgrade breaks things for many users.
[18:09] <spykedtomato> whoa
[18:09] <leshiy> is anybody here?
[18:10]  * spykedtomato begins to rethink...
[18:10] <jhutchins_wk> leshiy: 370 lurkers
[18:10] <stdin> jhutchins_lt: source?
[18:10] <jhutchins_wk> stdin: For what?
[18:11] <stdin> for "Generally agreed that it's one of the worst releases ever, upgrade breaks things for many users."
[18:11] <dwidmann> jhutchins_wk:  360 idlers, 10 lurkers
[18:11] <jhutchins_wk> stdin: Observations here and in other channels.
[18:11] <jhutchins_wk> stdin: You been asleep or something?
[18:11] <genii> back
[18:11] <stdin> most people seem to have a smooth upgrade actually
[18:11] <genii> XyQrTw: Apologies for lag, work required me
[18:12] <jhutchins_wk> stdin: Perhaps most do, but there are plenty of problems, and I've seen it said that the rc was a lot more stable (probably meaning workable) than the actual release.
[18:12] <TuxOtaku> hey guys, I'm looking for a bandwidth monitoring application that has a similar feature set to NetMeter on Windows
[18:12] <spykedtomato> what's breaking for the people that are complaining?
[18:12] <TuxOtaku> any suggestions?
[18:12] <spykedtomato> and is it hardy or remix they're talking about?
[18:12] <o0Chris0o> what is the name in adebt for the extra screensavers for kde?
[18:12] <jhutchins_wk> spykedtomato: Printing, wireless, desktop issues.
[18:13] <stdin> jhutchins_lt: then "many" should be changed to "a few"
[18:13] <jhutchins_wk> stdin: Not from what I've seen.
[18:13] <stdin> from what I've seen, it is
[18:14] <stdin> I've upgraded several boxes on my network, all went well
[18:14] <jhutchins_wk> stdin: Don't be silly.  Not seeing errors only means you weren't looking in the right place.
[18:14] <spykedtomato> is kde4 good enough to use or should i stick with 3?
[18:14] <stdin> I've upgraded several friends, all went well
[18:14] <_eMaX_> hi all
[18:14] <_eMaX_> anyone here using eclipse on hardy?
[18:14] <dwidmann> spykedtomato: I recommend mixing them together
[18:14] <jhutchins_wk> stdin: All three of the *buntu users in our local LUG who've upgraded have had significant problems.
[18:14] <spykedtomato> dwidmann: mixing them? how's that?
[18:15] <jhutchins_wk> A lot of stuff doesn't run in 4 yet.
[18:15] <dwidmann> spykedtomato: have both kde3 and kde4 installed, log into one or the other, and use apps from both
[18:15] <dwidmann> spykedtomato: for example I'm using KDE3, but I'm also using konqueror4, Dolphin(not d3lphin), etc
[18:16] <x-X-x> whats the difference between cvs and git ?
[18:16] <spykedtomato> ok - did you install konqueror4 etc beside or on top of the older versions?
[18:16] <spykedtomato> or does that just happen automatically when you install kde4 over a kde3?
[18:17] <dwidmann> genii: the printer setup for KDE (ie: kcmshell printers) has been screwed around with for Ubuntu 8.04, and it doesn't seem to work any more ....
[18:26] <Bauldrick> wheres the file that holds info about what printers are installed? I had a printer on remote cups server which isn't there anymore, but I can't delete the printer in system settings
[18:26] <tycale_> New kubuntu is on kde4 ?
[18:26] <edoceo> I tried KDE4 and then removed now my desktop is all hosed up - konqueror won't run, things look to dolphin for file system viewing...how do I reset all this?
[18:26] <Kred> Hi, with Kaffeine theres a bug with the DVD codec install. Does anyone know a workaround?
[18:27] <tycale_> New kubuntu is on kde4 ?
[18:27] <J> I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 (kde3) yesterday on an Acer 2020 laptop, now shutdown doesn't power off and log off user just freezes.  I've tried the acpi=force and reboot=b kernel options.  Can anyone suggest something/anything! else I can try?
[18:27] <dwidmann> Kred: installing the codec manually would work nicely
[18:27] <J> tycale_: IIRC you can choose either 3 or 4
[18:27] <dwidmann> !css | Kred
[18:27] <tycale_> ok, thanks you
[18:27] <J> tycale_: but they are different downloads
[18:27] <dwidmann> Kred: I've noticed the bug too, however, I sometimes run into its little circle of doom when it *is* installed
[18:28] <tycale_> J: I'm on kubuntu 7.10
[18:28] <tycale_> I've to donwload 1800mo for the update
[18:28] <tycale_> Oo
[18:29] <J> tycale_: /me trying to remember if it prompts.  Can't remember, sorry.  But I upgraded trom 7.10 to 8.04 and kept kde3
[18:29] <Kred> dwidmann: ok got it installed and working. Thanks!
[18:30] <tycale_> But I've kde4 and 3 actually
[18:30] <tycale_> on my computer
[18:30] <tycale_> I don't understand why I've to download 1800 mo
[18:30] <davf> I'm having trouble with compiz loading on kubuntu 8.04 and nvidia.
[18:30] <tycale_> It's really big =|
[18:31] <SlimeyPete> tycale_: that includes updates for all the software you have installed via adept
[18:31] <dwidmann> tycale_: well, once you factor in all of the extra packages you have installed, it really starts to add up fast, I think KDE4 itself with only default packages is >300MB
[18:31] <SlimeyPete> I had to download 1200MB
[18:31] <tycale_> ho, ok
[18:31] <J> tycale_: yeah, took a few hours for my laptop to upgrade, but it's not a fast machine and the slow download didn't help :/
[18:31] <tycale_> ok
[18:32] <tycale_> ty
[18:33] <stefan-f> Hello all :)
[18:33] <stefan-f> since my upgrade to hardy yesterday I hav no sound
[18:33] <stefan-f> drivers are gone
[18:34] <kubuntutero> hi
[18:34] <stefan-f> can somene help
[18:34] <stefan-f> ?
[18:35] <dwidmann> stefan-f: do you know what sound card it is
[18:36] <stefan-f> lspci gives me :
[18:36] <stefan-f> 0:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[18:37] <o0Chris0o> what is the name in adebt for the extra screensavers for kde?
[18:38] <edoceo> How do I get dpkg to re-configure my KDE3?
[18:42] <o0Chris0o> where do I find the "B II" window decoration?
[18:43] <JoshOvki> how do you find out what the name of the workgroup you are connect to is?
[18:44] <vbgunz> how do you play a simple vob file? I think upgrading to hardy may have broken my vob playback :/
[18:45] <JoshOvki> vbgunz: install VLC
[18:45] <jessica_> what command restarts your network ?
[18:46] <J> jessica_: sudo /etc/init.d networking restart
[18:46] <flaccid> jessica_: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:46] <dustrial> pls hlp, i need to get back the original files in "/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/sound/"
[18:46] <jessica_> thanks
[18:50] <heath> What's the command to get a disk UUID?
[18:50] <jessica_> when i plug my bluetooth adapter in the bluetooth tools dont apper
[18:51] <stefan-f> !medibuntu
[18:54] <dwidmann> Is there any way to quiet down the output of umount, I tried doing > /dev/null but it's still printing to the screen :(
[18:54] <alanx> hi, everybody, greetings from guatemala
[18:55] <heath> dwidmann: is the disk in fstab?
[18:55] <ubuntu> hi
[18:55] <dwidmann> heath: shouldn't matter, I'm trying to shut up its output including errors ....
[18:55] <heath> oh...
[18:56] <trappist> dwidmann: > will only redirect stdout - you're seeing stderr
[18:56] <dwidmann> trappist: I figured as much, is there anything I can do about it?
[18:56] <trappist> dwidmann: umount ... 2&>/dev/null if I remember right
[18:56] <dwidmann> So what is the 2& doing exactly?
[18:57] <spykedtomato> n00b question - I'm trying to upgrade from cd, typed kdesu "/cdrom/cdromupgrade", get a "command not found" error - whassup with that?
[18:57] <J> dwidmann: IIRC stderr is 2.  Stdout is 1.  So >/dev/null could be written 1&>/dev/null
[18:57] <daemon3> Has anyone had their nvidia Geforce drivers messed up after the Hardy upgrade?
[18:58] <trappist> dwidmann: stderr and stdout are file descriptors.  2 is stderr.
[18:58] <all> hi everyone
[19:00] <sigma_1234> thumbs up to konqueror kde4. it opens my internet banking site perfectly
[19:00] <dwidmann> trappist, doesn't seem to be working, it says "2 not found" or similar
[19:00] <trappist> dwidmann: actually just &> should redirect stderr and stdout
[19:01] <sigma_1234> kde3 needed a useragent change to be invoked
[19:01] <spykedtomato> can anyone help me with the correct command to  upgrade from cd?
[19:01] <trappist> dwidmann: looks like I didn't quite remember it right :)
[19:01] <kubuntutero> dwidmann: 2>&1 > /dev/null
[19:01] <trappist> dwidmann: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html
[19:01] <all> anyone witha  nvidia 770 that can put work in kubuntu?
[19:01] <kubuntutero> hi alanx
[19:02] <sigma_1234> nvidia 770?
[19:02] <kubuntutero> spykedtomato: try apt-cdrom
[19:02] <kubuntutero> sigma_1234: Sweet. It's only going to get beter :0
[19:02] <dwidmann> kubuntutero: will try
[19:02] <all> GeForce 7700
[19:03] <all> I have a Asus A8jS but i install Ubuntu and everything works nice for me, but in Kubuntu not realy :S
[19:03] <sigma_1234> tell me about it. i cant wait till 4.1. just wish i could log off
[19:03] <dwidmann> kubuntutero: "umount: /dev/null not mounted"
[19:04] <fable> hello!
[19:04] <sigma_1234> !nvidia
[19:04] <kubuntutero> dwidmann: what did you type ?
[19:04] <kubuntutero> sigma_1234: You can't log out of the site ?
[19:04] <fable> how can i set the start-up application on kubuntu?!
[19:04] <kubuntutero> !autostart
[19:04] <dwidmann> umount /var/cache/apt/archives 2>&1 /dev/null
[19:05] <sigma_1234> you can install kubuntu in ubuntu. you do know that?
[19:05] <kubuntutero> dwidmann: forgot something
[19:05] <all> noo how can i do that?
[19:05] <kubuntutero> !kubuntu
[19:05] <dwidmann> kubuntutero: you did or I did?
[19:05] <kubuntutero> !kde
[19:05] <kubuntutero> dwidmann: you did
[19:05] <kubuntutero> all ^^^
[19:05] <all> i like the interface of KDE, but i like more of the Ubuntu cuiz look more compatibel with my PC
[19:05] <kubuntutero> You have a brown PC?
[19:06] <dwidmann> kubuntutero: and what might that be?
[19:06] <kubuntutero> dwidmann: > before /dev/null
[19:06] <dwidmann> kubuntutero: another one? okay
[19:07] <all> so if the kubuntu is = to ubuntu, only change the Gnome to KDE, so the fact that my grafic dont work well here as work in ubuntu its because the KDE?!
[19:07] <dwidmann> kubuntutero: /etc/init.d/mount-nfs.sh: 10: Syntax Error: redirection unexpected
[19:07] <kubuntutero> dwidmann: woah let me see what you typed in now
[19:08] <khaleel5000> hello, i have kubuntu 8.04 , I cant move my PS2 mouse, how do i configure that?
[19:08] <dwidmann> kubuntutero: umount /var/cache/apt/archives 2>&1> /dev/null
[19:09] <khaleel5000> the arrow is just there not moving. (my mouse works fine, tested in pclinuxos 2007 which I dual boot with kubuntu
[19:09] <kubuntutero> dwidmann: nope space between the 1 and >
[19:09] <inteliwasp> to install from source i need to use "sudo" on ./configure make and make install?
[19:09] <kubuntutero> that does something else
[19:09] <dwidmann> kubuntutero: curse sh for being so picky
[19:09] <SlimeyPete> inteliwasp: you only need sudo for "make install"
[19:09] <kubuntutero> inteliwasp: the package should have a README or an INSTALL file. Follow those instructions
[19:09] <kubuntutero> dwidmann: Well you are telling it to do that :)
[19:10] <all> so if i install ubuntu and then install the KDE under the ubuntu dont will be a probleam?
[19:10] <SlimeyPete> all: no problem. Just install "kubuntu-desktop".
[19:10] <inteliwasp> would i mess up anything if i did use sudo on all 3?
[19:10] <kubuntutero> inteliwasp: permissions maybe but unlikely
[19:10] <dwidmann> kubuntutero: problem: script isn't bombing with a syntax error now, but umount is still printing out the blahblahblah is not mounted messages that I want it to ignore in the event it's already unmounted
[19:10] <kubuntutero> ..
[19:11] <kubuntutero> it's not supposed to print anything after that
[19:11] <all> that way i can have the best of the two :D, lets take a try then
[19:11] <dwidmann> one sec, pastebin to the rescue
[19:13] <dwidmann> kubuntutero: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d1441fdfd
[19:13] <Ahmuck> does hardy use alsa, or pulseaudio?
[19:14] <Ahmuck> for kubuntu
[19:14] <SlimeyPete> alsa
[19:15] <Ahmuck> so what is pulseaudio on kubuntu
[19:15] <SlimeyPete> pulseaudio is used in kde4 but it does not replace alsa
[19:15] <SlimeyPete> it runs on top of alsa
[19:15] <SlimeyPete> it's like artsd in kde3
[19:15] <kubuntutero> dwidmann: fine try 2> /dev/null
[19:16] <SlimeyPete> at least I think it's used in kde4
[19:16] <SlimeyPete> or.... is it phonon
[19:16] <cinex> hi
[19:16] <kubuntutero> Phonon
[19:16] <SlimeyPete> yeah, it's phonon I think
[19:16] <SlimeyPete> again, it runs on top of ALSA
[19:16] <SlimeyPete> alsa is a lower-level thing
[19:17]  * kubuntutero tapes up SlimeyPete's fingers
[19:17] <dwidmann> wait ...... it actually worked that time :O
[19:17] <kubuntutero> dwidmann: I know
[19:17] <khaleel5000> how do you configure mouse on kubuntu>
[19:17] <khaleel5000> ?
[19:17] <kubuntutero> khaleel5000: system settings -> mouse
[19:18] <khaleel5000> kubuntutero: thanks
[19:18] <stefan-f> hmm, where can I find the alsa-driver?
[19:18] <stefan-f> I mean in which repo?
[19:18] <stefan-f> !alsa
[19:18] <dwidmann> kubuntutero: hm, my ifstate test isn't liking me  ... seems knetworkmanager might be skooting past it >.<
[19:20] <dwidmann> kubuntutero: or in some way shape or form ifstate isn't being kept up to date :(
[19:20]  * Aelwyn está ausente: Ausente por ahora.
[19:20] <_eMaX_> anyone here using eclipse on hardy/compiz?
[19:21] <kubuntutero> Probably knetworkmanager
[19:21] <kubuntutero> Don't know if there is a way to sync them
[19:22] <dwidmann> kubuntutero: do you know of a better network connectivity test I might be able to use?
[19:22] <trappist> dwidmann: seems hackish, but when I script stuff like that I figure if I can ping google I'm online, and if I can't I'm not
[19:23] <khaleel5000> kubuntutero: I am in kubuntu, my mouse is still not working , where do I configure it?
[19:24] <khaleel5000> system settings -->mouse only lets to tweak it, my mouse isint even moving
[19:24] <dwidmann> trappist: hmm, I've an idea, but would something like "ping -c1 terra" return a different exit status if it failed to ping?
[19:24] <kubuntutero> khaleel5000: was it moving at the login screen?
[19:24] <kubuntutero> dwidmann: test it
[19:25] <kubuntutero> echo $?
[19:25] <trappist> dwidmann: I get an exit status of 2 for unknown host
[19:25] <khaleel5000> not moving in login screen nor in the kde environment after I log in
[19:25] <J> dwidmann: what does sudo ethtool eth[?] return for link detected?
[19:25] <kubuntutero> that gives you the exit status
[19:25] <kubuntutero> khaleel5000: ... hmm is it configured in your X ?
[19:25] <khaleel5000> I dont know, how do i find it ?
[19:25] <kubuntutero> though I honestly don't know how to do that in the new X
[19:26] <kubuntutero> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg normally
[19:26] <kubuntutero> !mouse
[19:26] <kubuntutero> Nope :-(
[19:26] <AdmiralNDP> I'm using the latest Kubuntu with KDE 4. How do I get Sysgaurd back in the toolbar?
[19:26] <khaleel5000> kubuntutero: do you have a ps2 mouse?
[19:27] <khaleel5000> kubuntutero: if you have it, copy and paste the xorg's part for mouse at some place
[19:27] <cinex> !paste
[19:27] <dwidmann_laptop> J: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d3f0e0d18
[19:27] <trappist> does the nfs kernel module not get loaded at boot in hardy?
[19:28] <kubuntutero> Nope USB mouse right now
[19:28] <kubuntutero>  I have PS/2 mouse somewhere
[19:28] <kubuntutero> khaleel5000: it should ask you about your mouse during that setup
[19:28] <J> dwidmann_laptop: doesn't link detected: yes give you enough info?  Or am I missing what you want to work out...?
[19:29] <khaleel5000> kubuntutero: i had tried sudo dpkg...it didnt,let me check again
[19:29] <dwidmann> J: well I wasn't really familiar with that command ...
[19:29] <Pete051> evening folk
[19:30] <J> dwidmann: 's OK - there's 1000's I don't know :)  ethtool is really good when you need to force stuff like speed.  But is that link detected what you want to know?
[19:31] <khaleel5000> kubuntutero: didnt ask for mouse, just kernel frame buffer, and keyboard
[19:31] <khaleel5000> kubuntutero: i used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xog in debian , i know it does ask but it didnt here
[19:31] <o0Chris0o> whats the name of the background widget for weather?
[19:32] <J> is there anyone who might have some pointers wrt the power/log off issue I asked about?  Please? :)
[19:33] <tycale_> hum
[19:33] <tycale_> I stop the upgrade distrib
[19:33] <steevc> having a few issues with my upgrade to Hardy. no graphical login, but I can do startx. this time I can't get a mouse pointer
[19:33] <tycale_> Now in adept, i've just a lot of .deb to download
[19:34] <bibek> hi my screen resolution is 600x480
[19:34] <bibek> :(
[19:35] <bibek> and the monitor and display doesnot have option to increase, 600x480 is the only available resolution
[19:35] <hydrogen>      get a bigger monitor?
[19:35] <bibek> hydrogen: its a 15inch monitor
[19:36] <bibek> well actually i think the monitor is not detected, my vga card is detected as 945 but monitor "plug n play"
[19:37] <cinex> anyone know of the top of their heads the module to allow amd x2 cpu stepping ?
[19:38] <steevc> any ideas on how to get the KDE mouse back? moving the mouse does highlight things on the task bar but hard to click accurately
[19:39] <gemidjy> kdenlive in hardy heron crashes on start. anyone knows something more about this?
[19:50] <bentob0x> How to modify the screen resolution of X when kdm_greet is on?
[19:51] <dwidmann> J: well, if what it does is see if the link is up then yes
[19:51] <dwidmann> and it's time for me to take my desktop and laptop down for hardware upgrades, yay :)
[19:53] <dwidmann> J: all that really matters is that my laptop can reach my desktop
[19:58] <dian> hi
[19:58] <dian> how can i install mozila
[19:58] <dian> or skype ?
[19:58] <dian> 6.10
[19:58] <dian> :")
[19:58] <dian> of kubuntu
[19:58] <DASkreech> !skype
[20:00] <JoshOvki> !pastebin
[20:00] <dian> :)
[20:00] <dian> how can i turn on my compiz ?
[20:00] <dian> there is compiz right
[20:00] <dian> ?
[20:00] <DASkreech> dian: you may want to update that Kubuntu btw
[20:00] <DASkreech> why are you on Edgy?
[20:01] <dian> i am doing it right now
[20:01] <dian> 192 packeges upgrading
[20:01] <dian> :)
[20:02] <patch> !nvidia
[20:02] <dian> hey guys i dont know how to do that
[20:02] <dian> Skype Repository
[20:03] <patch> Are there any procedures if the restricted drivers basically make your X session unusable provides just a black screen
[20:05] <dian> hey
[20:05] <bentob0x> How to modify the screen resolution of X when kdm_greet is on?
[20:05] <dian> how to turn on compix
[20:05] <bentob0x> the login screen basically
[20:07] <patch> dian: system>Desktop Effects
[20:08] <dian> patch:  there is no Desktop effects there
[20:09] <patch> dian: sudo apt-get install compiz
[20:10] <neo_> hola
[20:10] <neo_> saludo
[20:11] <dian> patch:  E: Couldn't find package compiz
[20:11] <patch> have you done a apt-get update?
[20:12] <neo_> byte
[20:12] <dian> no[e
[20:12] <dian> just instralled
[20:12] <patch> sudo apt-get update
[20:12] <dian> how to update it ?
[20:13] <dian> patch:  did it and the same
[20:13] <dian> no compiz
[20:13] <jonfhancock> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[20:13] <DASkreech> !upgrade
[20:16] <dwidmann> I wonder if my laptop will still love me
[20:18] <jonfhancock> patch: boot to command line, and roll back your xorg.conf file.
[20:20] <dwidmann> Yay, she does :) she does :) ... 4096MB memory
[20:21] <ALLpt> Can anyone tell me the link to install KDE in ubuntu?
[20:21] <DASkreech> !kde
[20:21] <cinex> ALLpt: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:21] <cinex> ALLpt: that is for kde3 for kde4 it is kubuntu-kde4-desktop or something
[20:21] <DASkreech> !KDE is KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.9 in Hardy, 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[20:22] <ALLpt> i went to the synaptic and then select the KDE
[20:22] <ALLpt> and now is downlaoding, hope i select the right one
[20:22] <cinex> kubuntu-desktop installs everything you need
[20:23] <ALLpt> in the instalation say 317 files so i hope that is this one :)
[20:23] <TeslaTony> ALLpt: That'll give you the desktop environment. Not a bad option, but if you want all the programs, too, just install kubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-kde4-desktop when you're done
[20:23] <ALLpt> i dont want the kde programs, in fact i like more the gnome programs
[20:24] <ALLpt> i only want the blue, the icons and all that
[20:24] <ALLpt> in that point i think that gnome is not very good :S
[20:24] <jonfhancock> visual appeal you mean?
[20:24] <ALLpt> yap, thats right
[20:25] <DASkreech> ALLpt: just change the Gnome theme to a blue one then
[20:25] <TeslaTony> Gotta love linux...don't like something? Choose something else.
[20:25] <ALLpt> i already try find one that i like, but keep think that KDE look better :D
[20:25] <Fa> it's all about freedom and choice
[20:26] <ALLpt> well i will try KDE here, and then lets see
[20:26] <Fa> kde 4 keeps on crashing on me when i use kvirc
[20:26] <H_Gonzo> hi everyone, I have a pcmcia-soundcard question
[20:26] <kreib> possible to set konversation to autoconncet on start?
[20:26] <ALLpt> its why Linux rocks, we have so lot of options, the probleam some times is select one
[20:27] <kreib> on computer boot I mean
[20:27] <cinex> kreib: ~/.kde/Autostart
[20:27] <cinex> you could put a link to it in there
[20:28] <H_Gonzo> basically, an audigy pcmcia is detected during hardy's bootable cd start, but once it's installed to the hard drive, the soundcard isn't running anymore
[20:28] <kreib> ok, so then konversation starts up, but can I make it automatically connect to channels?
[20:28] <cinex>  oh I dunno
[20:30] <H_Gonzo> has someone had a similar issue?
[20:30] <jhutchins_wk> kreib: Check the "Connect on application startup" box for each server you want to connect to.
[20:30] <jonfhancock> kreib: you set that up from within konversations
[20:30] <kreib> ncie, tha
[20:30] <kreib> thx
[20:30] <ALLpt> after install, how i can run KDE?
[20:31] <ALLpt> i already see all the programs and all that, but my desktop keep in Gnome
[20:31] <jonfhancock> kreib: and add the channels you want to the auto join channels section
[20:31] <jonfhancock> ALLpt: logout, then select KDE from session types
[20:31] <jonfhancock> then log back in
[20:31] <ALLpt> ok i will try
[20:31] <ALLpt> tks
[20:31] <Fa> ;)
[20:33] <jessica_> what dose grub error 21 mean
[20:34] <SJrX> As soon as I login via KDM, for some reason my desktop resolution switches to something ridiculous and I have to switch it back everytime
[20:34] <H_Gonzo> no audigy then :( I'll check the forums
[20:34] <SJrX> How can I fix this, as it's REALLY annoying.
[20:35] <jonfhancock> SJrX: check your settings in xorg.conf
[20:35] <SJrX> it's not when I boot x, it's when I login.
[20:35] <SJrX> kdm is fine.
[20:39] <sait8so> KDE question: How to set defaults in KFind? I'd like the default search to start in "/" instead of "file:///home/myname"  Any help appreciated.
[20:39] <genii> SJrX: Basically, 2 options. 1) Enable session to be saved so that whatever resolution its set when you logoff reappears or   2) make top resolution the (non rediculous) one you want in the xorg.conf
[20:40] <SJrX> How do I enable the session to be saved
[20:40] <jonfhancock> SJrX: system settings
[20:41] <jonfhancock> -> KDE Components
[20:41] <jonfhancock> -> Session Manager
[20:41] <jonfhancock> check "Restor previous session"
[20:41] <jonfhancock> Apply
[20:44] <SJrX> That is already checked jonfhancock
[20:44] <SJrX> the obsured resolution is 1280x1024 fyi
[20:44] <jonfhancock> hmm.. try checking "Restore manually saves session"
[20:44] <SJrX> I even changed it in Size & Orientation, and set "Apply settings on KDE Startup" and it didn't do it
[20:44] <jonfhancock> then restart x and see what happens
[20:45] <jonfhancock> SJrX: what is your video card? and any special monitor setup?
[20:45] <SJrX> vmware
[20:45] <jonfhancock> ah
[20:46] <jessica_> what dose error 21 mean and how can i fix it
[20:46] <jonfhancock> hmm.. I haven't run kubuntu in vmware.  or kde at all...
[20:46] <jessica_> in grub
[20:46] <cinex> jessica_: google it
[20:46] <jessica_> ok
[20:47] <SJrX> It's profile specific
[20:47] <SJrX> it only affects my user, the other user doesn't have this switch.
[20:47] <SJrX> It also affects KDE 3.5 and KDE 4
[20:47] <jonfhancock> very strange
[20:49] <SJrX> It doesn't affect Failsafe
[20:49] <SJrX> hmmm  maybe this is a KDE question
[20:49] <cinex> ?
[20:49] <rfrancisco> yes
[20:50] <rfrancisco> girls
[20:50] <sait8so> jessica_: try here: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[20:51] <sait8so> jessica_: its an exellent grub page
[20:52] <banane> Hi, where do i find a pointer to Kubuntu 8.04 multimedia codec installation
[20:52] <cinex> hmm
[20:52] <cinex> banane: you can get them from a repository
[20:53] <cinex> medibuntu or soemthing
[20:53] <jonfhancock> banane: you can still use automatix if you like that sort of thing
[20:53] <sait8so> any takers on the KFind question about setting the default?
[20:53] <jonfhancock> sait8so: I looked, but I couldn't find anything
[20:53] <jonfhancock> sait8so:
[20:53] <jonfhancock> erm.. oops
[20:54] <sait8so> jonfhancock: thanks, appreciate it. I found the same answer in other channels and forums ;)
[20:54] <banane> thanks cinex and jonfhancock. is it risky to use automatix ?
[20:54] <jonfhancock> sait8so: I may have an answer for you.
[20:54] <jonfhancock> banane: automatix is going away soon
[20:54] <banane> oh...
[20:55] <banane> why ?
[20:55] <jhutchins_wk> !bot
[20:55] <cinex> ive never heard of automatix
[20:55] <jonfhancock> the developers are moving to a diferent distro.
[20:55] <jhutchins_wk> !automatix
[20:56] <banane> can you please point me to the repository ?
[20:56] <jhutchins_wk> automatix is a program that attempts to install and configure several packages and often breaks the system in the process.
[20:56] <sait8so> jonfhancock: anything you can suggest is appreciated
[20:56] <cinex> w32codecs libdvdcss2 is pretty much all you need possibly ffmpeg
[20:56] <banane> thanks cinex
[20:56] <rfrancisco> who has problem to install vmware on 8.04
[20:56] <rfrancisco> ?
[20:56] <jonfhancock> sait8so: make a bash script called custom-kfind and use it to start kfind /
[20:57] <jonfhancock> then symlink it into /usr/bin
[20:57] <jonfhancock> pastebin?
[20:57] <dave11> TCS labled the kubuntu 8.04 LTS..oops
[20:57] <jonfhancock> pastebin!
[20:57] <jhutchins_wk> !paste
[20:58] <jonfhancock> thanks
[20:59] <banane> cinex how can i find the repository for w32codecs libdvdcss2 ?
[20:59] <sait8so> jonfhancock: I'll give it a try. Thanks!
[20:59] <jonfhancock> you bet.  works for me
[21:03] <uga> can anyone confirm that the new 8.04 CDs bundle OOo?
[21:04] <uga> I'd like to setup a friend's box, but given he'll be lacking internet connection for a while, I'd like to make sure I have everything at hand
[21:04] <uga> (and koffice won't do it)
[21:05] <jonfhancock> uga: I'm afraid I don't recall.  LinuxMint does
[21:05] <crimsun> uga: KDE3 or the KDE4 remix?
[21:05] <uga> kde3 one. I want something stable
[21:06] <Jucato> uga: Kubuntu always ships with OOo
[21:06] <Jucato> (at least for KDE 3)
[21:06] <uga> thanks. This will save me some time
[21:06] <DASkreech> Probably will for KDE4 as well
[21:06] <DASkreech> well 4.0 and 4.1
[21:06] <DASkreech>  Koffice is still a ways off
[21:06] <crimsun> you can confirm with, say, http://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/kubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.manifest
[21:06] <uga> yeah, but I don't want him to be using linux for first time with 4.0
[21:06] <uga> that'd scare him off
[21:07] <uga> once 4.1 is out, maybe
[21:07] <DASkreech> 4.2 ftp!
[21:15] <yoyoma> are there any bugs regarding adding desktops to KDE (3) in 8.04?
[21:17] <yoyoma> I go to configure desktops, slide the slider to 4, hit apply, ok.... but it doesn't change anything
[21:17] <Jucato> using compiz?
[21:18] <yoyoma> yeah
[21:18] <Jucato> that's the bug
[21:18] <Jucato> er.. problem :)
[21:18] <yoyoma> you can't have multiple desktops while using compiz?
[21:19] <DASkreech> You can but compiz does it's own thing
[21:19] <yoyoma> what's the point of the cuve effect then?
[21:19] <Jucato> you can, but I think it's a bit screwy
[21:19] <Jucato> you'll have to ask in #compiz-fusion
[21:19] <Jucato> compiz screws up KDE's virtual desktops
[21:19] <yoyoma> ok
[21:19] <cinex> not any more
[21:19] <yoyoma> thanks!
[21:19] <cinex> they fixed that
[21:19] <Jucato> tell that to yoyoma :)
[21:20] <yoyoma> hehe
[21:20] <cinex> she's too busy kicking y0momma's fac ein
[21:20] <yoyoma> sure isn't working for me
[21:20] <Jucato> do you have compiz-kicker installed? (or something like that)
[21:21] <__-osh-__> is there a vmware-server in new hardy? It must be present before I can upgrade...
[21:21] <cinex> ive not got it installed - fresh install of hardy. I cant remeber what I had installed before
[21:21] <cinex> bu the pager was fine
[21:22] <__-osh-__> !vmware
[21:22] <yoyoma> eh, i guess i'll try it later
[21:22] <yoyoma> gotta go get groceries
[21:22] <yoyoma> thanks
[21:23] <__-osh-__> Hmm, that info-bit was a bit old, no?
[21:23] <uga> __-osh-__: why not use VirtualBox instead
[21:24] <uga> !VirtualBox
[21:24] <__-osh-__> uga: because I have a much needed windows vmware-image with all work related stuff on it.
[21:24] <hydrogen> gdb in hardy is giving me this when I try to debug something...
[21:24] <hydrogen> warning: Cannot initialize thread debugging library: generic error
[21:24] <uga> __-osh-__: hehe, what if I tell you there's online how-tos for converting vmware disks into virtualbox ones =)
[21:25] <uga> __-osh-__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMagazine/HowTo/Switching_From_VMWare_To_VirtualBox:_.vmdk_To_.vdi_Using_Qemu_+_VdiTool
[21:25] <__-osh-__> uga: it don't matter to me. If virtualbox does what vmware does then I'll use that. Is it equal to or better than vmware?
[21:26] <uga> it is, just the difference is 0$
[21:26] <uga> (legally)
[21:26] <uga> and supports usb2 properly, which, I believe vmware barely manages yet =)
[21:27] <__-osh-__> uga: The guide is for vmware-player to virtualbox. Does it work with vmware-server too?
[21:27] <uga> __-osh-__: notice though, iirc ubuntu includes the non-usb version. download the full one from the site
[21:27] <uga> __-osh-__: oh, the -server version
[21:27] <uga> uhm... not sure
[21:27] <uga> I guess the format should be the same for either workstation or server, but no idea really
[21:29] <george> please may someone help me with instaling skype
[21:29] <__-osh-__> uga: so to be safe i should stay with vmware then... and will that show up in hardy?
[21:29] <__-osh-__> !skype
[21:30] <uga> __-osh-__: I haven't used vmware for ages, and on this 64bit box at least, apt doesn't show it
[21:30] <__-osh-__> george: might be what you need?
[21:31] <__-osh-__> uga: i think it used to be in a "partner" repo.
[21:31] <george> mmm no
[21:31] <george> :(
[21:31] <george> wrong architecture i386
[21:31] <george> za 64bit ubuntu
[21:31] <george> for 64bit ubuntu
[21:31] <__-osh-__> george: cant help you then. dont use skype.
[21:32] <george> seriozly?
[21:32] <uga> george: most 32 bit apps jsut work fine on 64bit boxes
[21:32] <uga> youjust need to force the install
[21:33] <george> what do you meen
[21:33] <george> force the install
[21:33] <george> sorry but english is not my 1st language
[21:33] <uga> george: when you try to install, you get an error
[21:33] <uga> read the help it points you to
[21:33] <__-osh-__> george: yeah, seriously. I have a regular mobile phone that my company pais for. not much need for skype...
[21:34] <__-osh-__> s/pais/pays/g
[21:34] <JoshOvki> !pastebin
[21:34] <uga> !force
[21:36] <__-osh-__> uga: thanks for your help. need to rest now. back another day...
[21:36] <george> i dont need skype for calls
[21:36] <george> i have 2 mobile telefons
[21:36] <george> in my contry there is no irc server
[21:36] <__-osh-__> george: what for then?
[21:37] <george> to keep tuch in time my friends
[21:37] <uga> george: dpkg --force-help
[21:37] <uga> type that and read
[21:37] <george> 10x
[21:38] <george> i see...but i still dont know where is the mistake
[21:38] <george> when i try to install skype
[21:38] <uga> what happens when you try to install it
[21:38] <george> it show me "wrong architecture i386"
[21:39] <uga> so just force it to install, the error line explains you how to =)
[21:39] <chosig> I think I've found a blocker bug in the new amd64 8.04 remix version... I've done a base install, nothing fancy - after reboot it refused to start X because displayconfig-gtk was missing.
[21:39] <uga> jsut force the architecture =)
[21:39] <chosig> Had to reboot in to rescue and manually install it
[21:39] <george> :)
[21:40] <wesley> where are kernels to installed ?
[21:40] <uga> george: sorry, not sure how to translate RTFM to bulgarian ;)
[21:40] <george> it means?
[21:40] <george> i will translate it
[21:41] <uga> errrm..l. Roses To Females Maybe
[21:41] <uga> george: "Reat the Fucking Manual" =)
[21:41] <uga> s/Reat/Read
[21:41] <george> xaxaax
[21:41] <george> this is my first time on Obuntu
[21:42] <george> sorry...
[21:42] <george> :(
[21:42] <uga> the thing I pointed to you is the manual though
[21:42] <uga> dpkg --help-force
[21:42] <uga> explains you how to force packages to install even if an error happens
[21:42] <uga> and the error tells you what to force
[21:42] <uga> can't combine both? =)
[21:42] <george> ok thak you
[21:42] <george> :)
[21:43] <uga> I prefer teaching hunting for food, rather than giving food
[21:43] <george> Rozi i za teb uga :))
[21:44] <wesley> can someone tell me the dir of where the kernels are being installed
[21:44] <_phoenix_> where can i get the code from kopete
[21:44] <uga> _phoenix_: svn.kde.org
[21:44] <Jucato> _phoenix_: kopete source code?
[21:45] <K4k-laptop> how do I install a new theme in kde4?
[21:45] <_phoenix_> yes
[21:45] <K4k-laptop> I downloaded the ktheme .gz file but I can't seem to find where to install it
[21:45] <_phoenix_> the source
[21:45] <Jucato> _phoenix_, uga: or "apt-get source kopete" :)
[21:45] <Jucato> (if you want the Kubuntu version)
[21:45] <_phoenix_> where i can find the code after downloading
[21:45] <uga> Jucato: if he wants to code, I'd rather have him do so in the real source ;)
[21:46] <taghasien007> i need help i have HDD locked in the bios is there any solution please
[21:46] <Jucato> uga: well it is the real source too :P
[21:46] <uga> _phoenix_: it doesn't install the source by default
[21:46] <kalle__> Cheers
[21:46] <Jucato> _phoenix_: in the directory where you ran apt-get source
[21:46] <uga> Jucato: yes, of course, if kubuntu devs remember feedign the stuff back upstram
[21:46] <uga> upstream
[21:46] <Jucato> :D
[21:47] <taghasien007>  i need help i have HDD locked in the bios is there any solution please
[21:47] <Jucato> K4k-laptop: kthemes or .kth themes don't work in KDE 4
[21:47] <H_Gonzo> hi, I would need some help with an audigy pcmcia soundcard. Can someone help, please?
[21:47] <kallepersson_> Is there any way to map right mouse button as ctrl+left mouse button ?
[21:47] <K4k-laptop> Jucato, then I guess it was mis-labeled in kde-look.org
[21:48] <Jucato> K4k-laptop: what does it say?
[21:48] <chosig> taghasien007: try removing the battery from the mobo, it might help - but it might also destroy it too...
[21:48] <K4k-laptop> Jucato, what does what say?
[21:48] <uga> Jucato: it's possibly a plasma theme
 Jucato, then I guess it was mis-labeled in kde-look.org <---
[21:48] <_phoenix_> what must i type in in apt-get to make my gcc able to compile it?
[21:48] <Jucato> uga: he said ktheme
[21:48] <uga> Jucato: bet a pizza? =)
[21:48] <K4k-laptop> Jucato, it's listed under the kde4 themes
[21:49] <uga> K4k-laptop: which one is it
[21:49] <K4k-laptop> when I unzipped it it's a .ktm extension
[21:49] <Jucato> uga: how should I know? I don't have the link
[21:49] <K4k-laptop> erm...kollide
[21:49] <Jucato> I'm only basing it on what he said
[21:50] <_phoenix_> what must i type in in apt-get to make my gcc able to compile it?
[21:50] <uga> oh
[21:50] <uga> Jucato: it seems to be a style
[21:50] <Jucato> if you say so
[21:50] <uga> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/kollide?content=75295
[21:51] <uga> well, style, plus wallpaper, plus... etc etc
[21:51] <_sourcemaker> I try to install the vmware server but I receive a compile error while compiling the vmware module
[21:51]  * Jucato doesn't trust kde-look.org "labels"
[21:51] <will00> ey im using a mini itx mobo, and iv installed kubuntu, but i get these vertical like vibrating lines across the screen, any idea as to the problem?
[21:51] <taghasien007> THANKS CHOSIG the password is in stcked in the hdd i trayd an usb external case but it is impossible to acces or format the hdd
[21:51] <uga> Jucato: it's under "theme-manager theme"
[21:52] <taghasien007> HANKS CHOSIG the password is in stcked in the hdd i trayd an usb external case but it is impossible to acces or format the hdd
[21:52] <uga> no idea what a theme manager is, but sounds like some generic style set that uses pixmaps
[21:52] <Jucato> uga: * Jucato doesn't trust kde-look.org "labels"
[21:52] <Jucato> kthememanager doesn't exist in kde4 afaik
[21:52] <uga> Jucato: who said that I said that it was for kde4
[21:52] <uga> I only said where kollide was =))
 how do I install a new theme in kde4?
[21:53] <george> dont mess with uga !:))
[21:53] <uga> lol
[21:53] <Jucato> right... be he's allowed to mess with me?
[21:54] <uga> Jucato: okay, he did, I didn't. Blame him for incorrect information ;P
[21:54] <uga> Jucato: K4k-laptop != uga
[21:54] <chosig> taghasien007: then i don't have a clue, try googling
[21:54] <K4k-laptop> yea, I'm mainly just wondering how to do it, I found most of them are .deb packages, but I remember with kthememanager it had an "install new theme" button which I don't see in the new theme manager
[21:54] <uga> Jucato: I didn't mess with you. I just told you what it was
[21:54] <Jucato> uga: where was I blaming you?
[21:54] <Jucato> K4k-laptop: yeah, in KDE 3
[21:55] <K4k-laptop> right...
[21:55] <K4k-laptop> so, does anyone know if you can even install new 3rd party themes in kde4?
[21:55] <K4k-laptop> or have they locked you out of that ability
[21:55] <uga> K4k-laptop: you can install plasma themes
[21:56] <K4k-laptop> ah, ok, thank you
[21:56] <Jucato> K4k-laptop: there's just no kthememanager... doesn't mean it's impossible to change themes
[21:56] <K4k-laptop> alright
[21:56] <banane> i installed the codecs now in hardy, but sound in vlc and mplayer is extremely faint ...
[21:56] <Jucato> but, since KDE 4 is based on Qt 4, KDE 3 widget styles would not work in KDE 4
[21:57] <Jucato> so there might be a lack of widget styles for KDE 4 for a while. same with window decorations (I think)
[21:57] <uga> K4k-laptop: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=76
[21:57] <Jucato> KDE 4 also follows a different icon naming specification (from FreeDesktop.org), which means that old icont themes might not work too
[21:59] <_sourcemaker> !pastebin
[22:00] <chosig> Isn't there plugins for konqueror aviable, like the ones for firefox?
[22:00] <o0Chris0o> should install pastebinit :) even easier!
[22:01] <_sourcemaker> VMWare compile error... what's wrong again? http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/53
[22:01] <Jucato> chosig: what kind of plugins?
[22:02] <chosig> Jucato: at the moment an adblocker :)
[22:02] <Jucato> Konq has a builtin Adblock Filter
[22:02] <Jucato> not exactly like Firefox's, but still...
[22:03] <chosig> oh...
[22:03] <chosig> mouse gestures would be nice too :)
[22:04] <Jucato> KDE has builtin gestures, not just for Konqueror
[22:06] <chosig> Jucato: another "oh"... it seems like it's been a long time since i used kde...
[22:06] <Jucato> KDE has had that for a long time I believe... under Input Actions
[22:08] <chosig> Jucato: i think last time i used kde was somewhere in the 2.x version
[22:09] <Jucato> ah fair enough :)
[22:09] <Jucato> Gestures howto: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3086781.0
[22:11] <chosig> Jucato: thanks
[22:11] <ddahl> what kind of Desktop Environment are you using then?
[22:13] <chosig> Jucato: oh, all is so much easier now... i didn't even have scour the net for drivers - all is auto-recognized and configured by default (and you can even set no anti-alias range w/o  attacking fonts.conf!) I've live too long in a shell ;P
[22:13] <Jucato> :D
[22:13] <egork> I would like to move a menu option "switch to online/offline mode" of the network kde panel applet to the first menu level. Where should I start looking for the information on how to do it? I can program and complie etc. but do not know what would be the most economic way to do it.
[22:14] <Danish989> quick question :  For playing music, which one is the best: Music Player Daemon, AmaroK or Listen?
[22:17] <chosig> Danish989: it depends on how you listen and how much "bling" you want :P
[22:17] <Jucato> !best | Danish989
[22:17] <chosig> Danish989: from what i've seen amarok seems nice though... but mpd works really good, and is easily remote controlled from work ;)
[22:18] <yoyoma> can i use the xfce login screen as the default login screen, even though it's not my default GUI (KDE3 is)?
[22:19] <chosig> yoyoma: yes, just choose kde as yoru default session (although, i think xfce uses gdm (gnome's display manager), or am i wrong?9
[22:19] <Jucato> yoyoma: yeah. Xfce (or rather Xubuntu) uses GDM, same as GNOME
[22:20] <yoyoma> hmm... i'm wanting to retain KDE3 as my default environment when I login, but I like the look and feel of the xfce login prompt better.  where do i choose my login prompt?
[22:21] <Jucato> O.o
[22:21] <gemidjy> kdenlive in hardy heron crashes on start. anyone knows something more about this?
[22:21] <Jucato> yoyoma: what do you mean "choose my login prompt"?
[22:22] <yoyoma> Jucato: when you power on the machine, you get a prompt asking for username/password, and session type
[22:22] <yoyoma> Jucato:  I currently have the KDE4 prompt, and would like the xfce one instead
[22:22] <Jucato> do you have gdm installed too?
[22:22] <yoyoma> i have xfce installed
[22:23] <Jucato> well check if you have the gdm package :)
[22:23] <chosig> yoyoma: apt-cache policy gdm
[22:23] <yoyoma> i have it installed
[22:23] <Jucato> if it's installed. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xdm" should ask you if you want to use kdm or gdm
[22:24] <yoyoma> xdm is not installed
[22:24] <Jucato> did you try the command?
[22:25] <yoyoma> yeah... the output is "xdm is not insatlled"
[22:25] <Jucato> hm...
[22:25] <Jucato> hold on
[22:25] <Jucato> might be sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm.... I'll have to test first
[22:26] <yoyoma> ok.  i'm going to go move a couch for my wife... brb
[22:26] <chosig> strange to have more than a maximized putty/screen session... there's colors :)
[22:27] <poseidon> Whats a good program for image burning (cd's)
[22:27] <egork> where to start looking for the info on how to hack the kde menu applets?
[22:27] <Jucato> poseidon: k3b
[22:27] <Jucato> egork: which applets?
[22:28] <egork> Jucato, in this specific case kde network manager applet
[22:33] <Jucato> egork: hm.. I didn't know there was such an applet. but anyway, you'll have to look at the source code to hack it :/
[22:33] <Jucato> yoyoma: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[22:33] <yoyoma> ok
[22:33] <TeslaTony> I'm not getting any sound in flash (sometimes), and the only fixes I'm finding are for 64 bit systems (mines 32) or for Feisty. Anyone know how to fix this?
[22:34] <yoyoma> allrighty, an X restart in 5...4...3...2...1...
[22:35] <egork> Jucato, source code, sure. Do you have any hint for me on how to do it in a most lazy way? I would hate to recompile whole KDE.
[22:35] <Jucato> you won't have to recompile whole KDE.. just kdebase mostly :)
[22:35] <Jucato> you can try search for a guide about kicker in techbase.kde.org
[22:35] <Jucato> I think there's one there
[22:36] <yoyoma> is this the proper output:  invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.
[22:36] <egork> Jucato, aha this is already something to start with.
[22:40] <_sourcemaker> why are there so many vmware problems in the new hardy distribution?
[22:40] <_sourcemaker> I can install the vmware server product
[22:42] <arc_shmoo> how do i get ndiswrapper configured right? ive installed it and its front-end gui as well as the windows driver to go with it now what?
[22:44] <HunterSThompson> have there been no updates in the past week?
[22:48] <HunterSThompson> ...or how can I upgrade from cd
[22:50] <LeeJunFan> anyone else having issues with hardy on the laptop randomly suspending to ram?
[22:51] <psyco> ZOMG KDE 4.1 ALPHA RELEASED ^^
[22:51] <LeeJunFan> sweet. I still can't stand using 4.0
[22:52] <pietje_phuck> LeeJunFan: why are you using it then?
[22:52] <pietje_phuck> LeeJunFan: :)
[22:52] <LeeJunFan> I'm not
[22:52] <pietje_phuck> ok
[22:53] <pietje_phuck> me neither
[22:53] <LeeJunFan> I was quite disappointed at their presentation of a "finished product".
[22:54] <pietje_phuck> I did not even bother to try when they said it was not going to be long term support
[22:54] <pietje_phuck> I trust them enough to listen when they indicate it is crap
[22:54] <dwidmann> pietje_phuck: the kde4 kubuntu doesn't even have short term support, community support only.
[22:55] <pietje_phuck> dwidmann: That bad eh.....
[22:55] <psyco> hehe
[22:55] <psyco> I sparked a conversation ^^
[22:55] <dwidmann> psyco: congratulations
[22:56] <will00> does anyone know why kubuntu would display vertical lines?
[22:56] <psyco> I am incredibly excited.
[22:56] <psyco> :O And you can run it on windows :S
[22:56] <pietje_phuck> I was impressed by the install though, everything worked, just had to select my monitor after the install as it picked the default monitor
[22:57] <pietje_phuck> psyco: kde yeah
[22:57] <psyco> pietje_phuck: For 4.0 or 4.1?
[22:57] <pietje_phuck> for 3.9
[22:57] <psyco> ah
[22:58] <psyco> Why is the source code link broken :'(
[22:58] <pietje_phuck> Hey this was the easiest install of kubuntu in a long time
[22:58] <psyco> http://www.kde.org/info/info/4.0.71.php
[22:58] <pietje_phuck> was thinking of looking at a new distro after 7.10
[22:59] <pietje_phuck> but this one went smooth, smooth enough to recommend it to windoze users
[23:00] <pietje_phuck> if any of the developers are here, thanx
[23:00] <dwidmann> psyco: blame bill gates
[23:00] <psyco> XD
[23:00] <psyco> well duh ^^
[23:04] <will00> does anyone know why kubuntu displays flickering vertical lines?
[23:12] <yao_ziyuan> how to start adept-manager for upstream packages?
[23:16] <punk> hallo
[23:17] <will00> ey whenever i restart my computer, my im accounts are all reset, and my virtual desktops return to the default (2) rather than the 5 i use
[23:17] <will00> whats the issue with that?
[23:17] <punk> dont know
[23:17] <punk> sorry
[23:18] <punk__> qwertyuiop[]
[23:19] <dwidmann> will00: come to think of it, my KDE4 Kopete reset its accounts once .... I had to set things back up this morning and I don't know why.
[23:19] <will00> this is an issue im havin with pidgin
[23:20] <will00> as well as skype
[23:20] <will00> and keytough
[23:20] <dwidmann> hmm
[23:21] <dwidmann> will00: the flickering lines is probably a video driver issue
[23:21] <jonfhancock> will00: what version of ubutnu and kde are you using?
[23:21] <will00> im using kubuntu 8.04 and the latest kde3
[23:22] <jonfhancock> hmm
[23:22] <punks_not_dead> 2 bomber : hallo
[23:22] <will00> jonfhancock, im using this on a little embedded mini itx, its go sis mirage1 graphics, could that be a problem?
[23:23] <jonfhancock> for your flickering lines, probably
[23:23] <jonfhancock> the other stuff is odd though
[23:23] <jonfhancock> what kind of disk is it?
[23:23] <punks_not_dead> 2 niraj1234 : hi
[23:24] <will00> its just the regular i386 live disk
[23:24] <jonfhancock> ah
[23:24] <jonfhancock> it's not installed on anything?
[23:25] <jonfhancock> you're booting off the live disk every time?
[23:25] <will00> well no, the problem exists on the cf install too, but im tryin different oses, but they all seem to have the same issue
[23:26] <jonfhancock> It may be a problem with retaining information on your cf
[23:26] <jonfhancock> can you install to a usb disk and see if it persists?
[23:26] <will00> but then why would it show up on the live cd too?
[23:26] <will00> ill see
[23:26] <will00> but i dont think i have a usb disk that big
[23:26] <will00> nope i dont
[23:27] <jonfhancock> hmm.  no external drive either huh?
[23:27] <punks_not_dead> 2 will00 if u use liveCd any settings are saved
[23:27] <will00> yes but its got valuable data on it
[23:27] <kubuntu> anyone secssfuly install flyback
[23:27] <jonfhancock> will00: I see
[23:28] <jonfhancock> punks_not_dead: where are those settings saved exactly?
[23:29] <will00> ah i think i found a solution
[23:29] <jonfhancock> will00: cool. what did you find?
[23:29] <will00> http://davidjmoore.com/2008/01/27/how-to-get-the-sis-mirage-1-graphics-chip-to-work-with-ubuntu/
[23:29] <will00> its exactly the same chipset
[23:29] <punks_not_dead> if the system is running from CD settings are saved in some temporary folder
[23:30] <kubuntu> dose "flyback" work on kubuntu
[23:30] <punks_not_dead> but i dont know exactly
[23:32] <kubuntu> who here got GTAV
[23:42] <fly_> howdy folks
[23:43] <john_> what's the reason for wanting the kubuntu dvd over the cd?
[23:43] <cinex> more apps
[23:43] <john_> there a list somewhere?
[23:43] <cinex> probably
[23:45] <fly_> hey, is this the right place for advice on compiz questions in the new Hardy release?
[23:47] <jonfhancock> fly_: I'm still using gutsy, but fairly familiar with compiz
[23:47] <jonfhancock> ask
[23:49] <fly_> ok, I installed Hardy (nice release, BTW) and when I enable the Compiz window manager, I lose my buttons and decorations on my windows. I installed the Emerald manager; is there something I've overlooked?
[23:50] <jonfhancock> fly_: what video card do you haveA?
[23:50] <fly_> Onboard Intel 915 (laptop).
[23:50] <jonfhancock> hmm  that is odd.
[23:51] <jonfhancock> intel's are the only thing I've got compiz working on without pulling hair out first
[23:51] <fly_> I know, because it worked OK with Feisty.
[23:51] <fly_> Is there a package I may be missing or forgot to enable?
[23:52] <jonfhancock> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[23:52] <jonfhancock> and you followed that guide?
[23:52] <jonfhancock> roughtly?
[23:52] <jonfhancock> er.. roughly
[23:54] <fly_> No, I just went by the seat of the pants. I have used Compiz before, and it did something like that a while back, but I forgot how I fixed it (that was Beryl) OK I'll check the link you gave me.
[23:54] <jonfhancock> compiz-kde maybe?
[23:56] <fly_> I DLed almost every Compiz package(except the development stuff) I wonder if i need to actually download some kind of Icon pack for the Emerald themes or something.
[23:56] <jonfhancock> hmm
[23:56] <cinex> fly you want the windows to look pretty?
[23:57] <cinex> fly_:
[23:57] <fly_> Yep, but it's not a big problem
[23:57] <cinex> then yeah emerald themes are the way
[23:57] <cinex> aquamarine ?
[23:57] <cinex> aqua somehting
[23:57] <jhutchins_wk> fly_: Run the window decorator.
[23:58] <jhutchins_wk> Whichever you prefer.
[23:58] <fly_> I like the black glass looking one.
[23:58] <jhutchins_wk> !compiz
[23:58] <silentwind> sup sup
[23:58] <nosrednaekim> !webca,
[23:58] <silentwind> wats going on??
[23:58] <nosrednaekim> !webcam
[23:58] <silentwind> just found this chat stuff
[23:58] <silentwind> wats it going ?
[23:58] <fly_> Right, I did DL and install most all Compiz packages
[23:59] <silentwind> guys , how can i install messnger
[23:59] <SlimeyPete> hi silentwind. This is a support channel. For general chat, try #kubuntu-offtopic.
[23:59] <silentwind> like msn , yahoo
[23:59] <silentwind> ??
[23:59] <SlimeyPete> it's a little bit like that, yes
[23:59] <jhutchins_wk> fly_: That will give you a recipie, including what to run.  I had the decorator crash on me several times when I messed with it, just ran it again.
[23:59] <fly_> J Hutchins:Are you John Hutchins?
[23:59] <nosrednaekim> silentwind: use kopete
[23:59] <jhutchins_wk> fly_: Nope, Jonathan