[01:25] <bucat> I use recordmydesktop and i made my video but if i try to see the video all my player close themself witout playing nothing
[01:25] <bucat> ideas?
[01:26] <stroogle> ccooke: hoo, 25.3 MB, let's go
[01:26] <ccooke> stroogle: heh
[01:27] <JW_704> Xine extra codecs?
[01:27] <hwolff> _tilman, I am looking for the video driver, not a Codec
[01:27] <_tilman> ah sorry
[01:27] <hwolff> xine doesn't even start.
[01:27] <ccooke> stroogle: you probably only had ubuntu-minimal installed. That's a minimal core which you can add the rest to
[01:27] <hwolff> Even if I don't give any file.
[01:27] <anto> Heya people i got a problem with runing my server as a router to send out internet to the rest of the computer and somone help me?
[01:28] <stroogle> anyone got perl going?  I tried a tutorial on it and found that i was into apache config i didn't understand straight away
[01:28] <anto> Heya people i got a problem with runing my server as a router to send out internet to the rest of the computer and somone help me?
[01:29] <ccooke> anto: you want to use your Ubuntu computer as a router, with a number of computers behind it accessing the internet through it, yes?
[01:29] <ccooke> anto: Please don't repeat questions.
[01:29] <savetheWorld> stroogle: perl just works, assumining its installed.
[01:29] <magnetron> stroogle: i use perl, but not in CGI
[01:29] <savetheWorld> stroogle: There is nothing to condigure.
[01:29] <anto> ccooke: yes that what i want to do?
[01:29] <savetheWorld> stroogle: Now - are you really asking about mod_perl for apache?
[01:29] <ccooke> anto: have you done anything like this before?
[01:29] <stroogle> savetheWorld: well i make a .cgi file and the browser just outputs the lot, no processing
[01:29] <JW_704> I'm going ot bed
[01:30] <JW_704> goodnight
[01:30] <anto> no
[01:30] <savetheWorld> stroogle: You do know that cgi isn't perl right?
[01:30] <stroogle> savetheWorld: mod_perl? i might be...
[01:30] <savetheWorld> you can run perl scripts uinder cgi, by invoking the perl interpeter vi #!
[01:30] <stroogle> ccooke: thx, that's worked too :)
[01:31] <savetheWorld> or you can add the perl moduleto apache to make perl part of the web server
[01:31] <ccooke> hmm. Looks like feisty no longer includes an iptables init script
[01:31] <savetheWorld> which are you trying to do?
[01:31] <anto> ccooke: what i have done is that i put second network card to go to my main computer but for some reason it dose not connect to the internet
[01:31] <anto> and a second thing is that my apache no longer starts
[01:32] <stroogle> savetheWorld: it's for web development mainly
[01:32] <stroogle> savetheWorld: vi #! gave me an editor btw
[01:32] <ccooke> anto: your main computer is what? Ubuntu?
[01:32] <savetheWorld> "via #!"
[01:32] <[Selfsearcher] > how can i change the player for my DVD? Example: the menu says "open with Kaffeine" but i want to play it with Mplayer
[01:32] <anto> ccooke: yes of course ubuntu feisty fawn amd64
[01:33] <stroogle> savetheWorld: ah, 'via' not installed
[01:33] <ccooke> anto: Okay. Is it a desktop system?
[01:33] <savetheWorld> via is an english word (ok vrench actually)
[01:33] <savetheWorld> *f
[01:33] <anto> ccooke: Yes on both
[01:33] <stroogle> savetheWorld: but isn't it Latin?
[01:33] <savetheWorld> stroogle: do you know what #! means at the beginning of a script?
[01:33] <stroogle> savetheWorld: yes
[01:34] <XotiC> If i use reiserfs instead of ext3 will it make ubuntu as fast as slackware?
[01:34] <stroogle> savetheWorld: i got that far in the tutorial
[01:34] <BiTMAP> hey, whats the defualt port for a irc server?
[01:34] <stroogle> savetheWorld: it's just having the webserver process it
[01:34] <Parmenion> guys, what is the minimum HD space required for windows XP
[01:34] <savetheWorld> ok then you know how to run a perl script as a cgi file.  forget mod_perl for now.
[01:34] <[Selfsearcher] > how can i change the "action" on the menu (in KDE)? I need to play my DVD with Mplayrer, not Kaffeine
[01:34] <magnetron> why are you asking that, BiTMAP
[01:35] <anto> ccooke: what you suggest i use
[01:35] <mrlnwzrd> selfsearcher, right click->properties->open with
[01:35] <BiTMAP> becuase im trying to connect to a diffrent server in gnomexchat and the link from a webpage isnt working.
[01:35] <[Selfsearcher] > mrlnwzrd: ok i'll try now
[01:35] <BiTMAP> nm, i got it to work this time.
[01:35] <stroogle> savetheWorld: my book was on about scriptalias and so on, i'm a bit lost as how to set it up
[01:35] <magnetron> BiTMAP: if you don't enter the port number, it will choose the default one for you
[01:35] <ccooke> anto: The basic commands are very simple. However, explaining them is something I don't have time for right now :-) I'm trying to find the recommmended advice
[01:35] <BiTMAP> ahh, ok thanks :D
[01:36] <BiTMAP> im still pretty new to ubuntu :D
[01:36] <Parmenion> guys, what is the minimum HD space required for windows XP?
[01:36] <ubuntu-rocks> my isp is blocking ping to their router. the problem is that i want to put my default route in a config file and manually change it everytime i rebbot
[01:36] <BiTMAP> i finally got the nvidia workin
[01:36] <anto> ccooke: okej
[01:36] <Parmenion> really need a quick answer before i go partitioning
[01:36] <ziroday> BiTMAP: what card?
[01:37] <Frogzoo> Parmenion: i run vmware out of 5 gig
[01:37] <[Selfsearcher] > mrlnwzrd: ok i'll try now
[01:37] <[Selfsearcher] > mrlnwzrd: ok i'll try now
[01:37] <[Selfsearcher] > oops...
[01:37] <[Selfsearcher] > mrlnwzrd: thank you ! All done
[01:37] <ccooke> anto: ah ha.
[01:37] <ccooke> anto: This should be a good starting point: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing
[01:38] <producemench> is there a CAD user out there? BRL CAD? I need help setting up.
 guys, what is the minimum HD space required for windows XP? # just leave the win partition 50% resized
[01:38] <ziroday> how do i create a directory in samba
[01:38] <Parmenion> Frogzoo, err, another question. If i created a 30 gig  ntfs partition at the end of my drive, would it wipe the reiserfs partitions infront of it?
[01:39] <stroogle> i have apache document root set up so that it reads from my /home/*me* dir.  if i upload .cgi files to it, the browser just shows the whole file as text, how can i get the perl processor to run it?
[01:39] <Parmenion> not too sure wheter the install/recovery discs do a clean reformat job
[01:39] <Frogzoo> Parmenion: only if you were overwriting a reiser partition
[01:39] <Tom47> ramorek ru about?
[01:39] <Parmenion> kbrooks, running ubuntu, need to install windows XP
[01:40] <Parmenion> ie; it wouldnt touch the linux system infront of it then?
[01:40] <ccooke> anto: It's not going to be *Everything* you need, but it's generally saying the right things. One thing it may get wrong is the network card configuration
[01:40] <Parmenion> it would just detect the free space/ntfs partition at the end of the drive?
[01:41] <XotiC> If i use reiserfs instead of ext3 will it make ubuntu as fast as slackware?
[01:41] <anto> ccooke: okej
[01:42] <Parmenion> XotiC, no ...
[01:42] <stroogle> i have apache document root set up so that it reads from my /home/*me* dir.  if i upload .cgi files to it, the browser just shows the whole file as text, how can i get the perl processor to run it?
[01:42] <Parmenion> nothing much about fs when your running a desktop system
[01:42] <nexusStone> hi all.
[01:42] <stroogle> should i be configuring a scriptalias in apache.conf?
[01:42] <Parmenion> its all about configuration
[01:42] <Frogzoo> XotiC: choice of file system rarely makes any significant difference
[01:43] <XotiC> ok
[01:43] <rob_p> anto:  This may help you out too.  -->  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/5/28/
[01:43] <kbrooks> stroogle, no.
[01:43] <Nahi> PurpZeY, here?
[01:43] <XotiC> cause i see a hugh difference in speed and perforence in these two sysstem
[01:43] <XotiC> slackware is way much faster
[01:43] <Nahi> tc
[01:43] <kbrooks> stroogle, and change the document root back to /var/www
[01:44] <kbrooks> stroogle, enable the  user dir module instead
[01:44] <anto> rob_p: thanks alot guys gonna dig into that and come back if need hopes not
[01:44] <mairo> hi
[01:44] <Nahi> wich do i isntall ?ubuntu or mandrivia ????
[01:44] <Nahi> which*
[01:44] <XotiC> ubuntu
[01:44] <stroogle> kbrooks: right , the user dir module, i'll look into it, where should i look?
[01:44] <heffo> ubuntu
[01:44] <rob_p> anto: welcome... good luck  :-)
[01:44] <Nahi> XotiC, i have it to many problems with the wireless connection :(
[01:44] <mairo> hey guys, does your automatix2 work?
[01:44] <nick__> hola
[01:45] <kbrooks> stroogle, not that hard, look in /etc/apache2/mods_available iirc
[01:45] <longpig> !automatic
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <longpig> !automatix
[01:45] <Frogzoo> mairo: automatix isn't supported here -> #automatix
[01:45] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:45] <ferronica> hola
[01:45] <slackmagic> Nahi: install both, use them both and come back letting us know which one you decided to keep
[01:45] <mairo> it is in ubuntu
[01:45] <mairo> i already install things from it
[01:46] <mairo> where're you from
[01:46] <heffo> just use apt-get, easy enough
[01:46] <mairo> apt-get?
[01:46] <stroogle> kbrooks: 'cd /etc/apache2/mods_available' -> no such file or dir
[01:46] <heffo> mairo, if you know the name of the package you can open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install packagename
[01:47] <zonneur> #ubuntu-fr-jeux
[01:47] <spacebear> "
[01:47] <heffo> mairo, if its in the ubuntu repository it will download and install it for you
[01:47] <mairo> I searched a bit, but there's no ubuntu club in the country, where i'm from :)
[01:47] <stefg> !install | mairo
[01:47] <ubotu> mairo: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[01:47] <Parmenion> anyone knows a script/program to basically dump the /home folder of mine onto CDs?
[01:47] <mairo> aha.
[01:47] <kbrooks> stroogle, uh, look in /etc for apache*
[01:47] <Parmenion> actually, nix that ... ive got an interesting idea to test
[01:47] <kbrooks> stroogle, find /etc -iname "apache*"
[01:47] <mairo> no, i installed ubuntu
[01:48] <mairo> and i'm chatting from it now
[01:48] <mairo> i
[01:48] <mairo> like various desktops
[01:48] <mairo> pretty well organized :)
[01:48] <stefg> !enter | mairo
[01:48] <ubotu> mairo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:48] <mairo> ok, sorry
[01:49] <stroogle> kbrooks: 'ls /etc/apache2/mods-available' doesn't show me 'iirc'
[01:49] <hwilde> mairo, you should try 3ddesktop
[01:49] <mairo> where can i get it? and where are you guys from?
[01:49] <SoftIce> anyone using ispconfig?
[01:50] <stefg> mairo: so I'd suggest reading /topic, spending time on the !faq and first get a feel for it before hastily rushing to pseudo-easy solutions to fix problems which you don't have
[01:50] <stroogle> kbrooks: loads of other mods there.  what is this iirc?
[01:50] <mairo> so, how can i get 3ddesktop
[01:50] <stefg> !fqa | mairo
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fqa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <stefg> !faq | mairo
[01:50] <ubotu> mairo: A list of common questions and answers about Ubuntu: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions - Official documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com - IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[01:51] <mairo> thanks
[01:51] <hwilde> !synaptic | mairo
[01:51] <ubotu> mairo: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[01:51] <orbin> stroogle: iirc = if i remember correctly
[01:51] <hwilde> goto synaptic and search for desktop
[01:52] <hwilde> mairo, goto synaptic and search for desktop
[01:52] <stroogle> orbin: doh!  i thought he meant a mod
[01:52] <foo25> Hey, quick question, can I install Ubuntu without booting into live by changing the boot parameters?
[01:52] <stroogle> kbrooks: what mod should i be looking for in there?
[01:52] <stefg> !install | foo25
[01:52] <IdleOne> !alternate | foo25
[01:52] <foo25> !intall
[01:53] <foo25> Hit F6?
[01:53] <ubotu> foo25: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[01:53] <ubotu> foo25: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[01:53] <foo25> And add that
[01:53] <hwilde> !chill
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <stefg> the bot lags...
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chill - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <foo25> Sorry
[01:53] <foo25> Thanks
[01:53] <hwilde> hmm I thought someone programmed that in
[01:53] <ewanm89> @chill
[01:54] <guardian> which media server do you recommend ? i'm running feisty
[01:54] <vydd> can I use gparted from ubuntu dapper live to shrink ntfs partition, move ext3 partition to the newly formed space, and grow it afterwards?
[01:54] <sharkbrainguy> I'm using an intuos3 in 7.04 and while I was trying to get the expresskeys working I somehow made the stlyus do a middle click instead of a left click
[01:54] <sharkbrainguy> how do I change it back
[01:54] <stefg> vydd: theoretically, yes. but it's unreliable and will take ages
[01:55] <vydd> stefg: hm....ok, thanks
[01:55] <gejr> one thing I haven't been able to figure out with Linux in general is how i can install a program to another dir than it's default. What if my / partition is full, and I have 20 gb free on another partition. How can I install some app there instead of the default?
[01:56] <sbcsrv> Hi all
[01:56] <tokj> uh, ipv6 :P
[01:57] <sbcsrv> Anybody use distcc ?
[01:57] <stefg> vydd: so if you happen to have a windows partitioning tool i#d use that to shrink ntfs. then just create a ext3 in the free space and plain copy the files over
[01:57] <anto> rob_p: i still aint geting internet on my dam main computer
[01:57] <ubuntu-rocks> so, my question for the day. how do i make the default route to my isp's router which doesn't allow pings, permanent?
[01:58] <nexusStone> May I know if there is a PAM equivalent in Ubuntu server edition?
[01:58] <guardian> which media server do you recommend ? i'm running feisty
[01:58] <erUSUL> gejr: due to the way Linux/Unix is designed what you want it not easy (or possible at all) the way to go is to enlarge the / partition or move /usr/ to its own big partition
[01:58] <stefg> guardian: what do mean by media-server?
[01:58] <guardian> upnp
[01:58] <ziroday> anybody here can elp a noob with samba?
[01:58] <guardian> to share videos and music
[01:58] <guardian> accross the network
[01:58] <rob_p> anto: Bummer!  :-)
[01:58] <erUSUL> !samba | ziroday
[01:58] <ubotu> ziroday: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:58] <vydd> sbcsrv: I've used it... but I don't think I could help you much, cause it came all set up on distro I used
[01:58] <anto> rob_p; can you help me?
[01:59] <sbcsrv> ubuntu-rocks route add default gw [IP]  ?
[01:59] <vydd> stefg: yeah....I'm gonna lend that from someone
[01:59] <rob_p> anto: Possibly.
[01:59] <gejr> erUSUL: is it possible to resize a partition without formatting anything?
[01:59] <rob_p> anto: What type of internet connection do you have?
[01:59] <sbcsrv> vydd, I want to compile my ubuntu kernel with distcc on a Debian client
[01:59] <stefg> guardian: there's a lot of options, depending on your scenario. samba for general filesharing, vlc as streaming server, maybe mythtv for tivo-like stuff
[02:00] <sbcsrv> and I have an error about mtune ;'(
[02:00] <hwilde> ubuntu-rocks, sudo /sbin/route add default gw [iphere]  [interface]
[02:00] <vydd> sbcsrv: sorry :( can't help you :S
[02:00] <anto> rob_p DSL i think il ask my father
[02:00] <sbcsrv> ok vydd thanks
[02:00] <rob_p> anto: So your Ubuntu box connects to the 'Net via an ethernet adapter or similar?
[02:01] <vydd> sbcsrv: no problem, wish I knew how to help you with that
[02:01] <foo25> Hopefully install will work with noapci
[02:01] <guardian> stefg: i don't want file sharing, but upnp server
[02:01] <hwilde> !apci | foo25
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <foo25> Nothing showing about it
[02:01] <erUSUL> gejr: afaik gparted can resize partitions without data loss but messing with partitions is allways risky
[02:01] <anto> rob_p yeah
[02:01] <hwilde> !gparted | gejr
[02:01] <ubotu> gejr: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[02:01] <foo25> I keep getting "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly"
[02:02] <gejr> thanks
[02:02] <lovingyou> hello
[02:02] <rob_p> anto: Ok.  So is the ethernet interface configured properly?  Can you reach the 'Net via that interface?
[02:02] <lovingyou> someone can help me with crontab ?
[02:02] <hwilde> !crontab | lovingyou
[02:02] <anto> well i'm on the server right now >.<
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crontab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <lovingyou> I want to put a process in crontab
[02:02] <sbcsrv> When I search informations about "mtune" on Google, I found almost all results about "Gentoo" and my Debian / Ubuntu dont have a make.conf, it's normal ?
[02:03] <anto> its just that i cannot access the internet from my "regular" computer
[02:03] <rob_p> anto: Ok, so yes then...
[02:03] <anto> rop_p yeah
[02:03] <stefg> guardian: look at http://mediatomb.cc/pages/download
[02:03] <rob_p> anto: I'm assuming you have a second ethernet interface on your Ubuntu server box, correct?
[02:03] <guardian> stefg: thx
[02:03] <anto> rob_p exactly
[02:04] <rob_p> anto: Is that interface up and functioning properly?
[02:04] <logixoul> hi. Rosegarden says my kernel timer resolution is too low (250hz). How do I fix this?
[02:04] <anto> the internal network card is eth2 and and the external one is eth1
[02:04] <anto> rob_p: i think so
[02:04] <logixoul> (without installing a new kernel, if possible :)
[02:04] <rob_p> anto: Can you ping other computers from that interface?
[02:05] <todders> thanks for the everyone, Tom47, im offski, cheers it was much appreciatted and very helpful
[02:05] <todders> matey gave up and left :(
[02:05] <rob_p> anto: You do have 2 separate networks configured on separate subnets, one for each NIC, correct?
[02:06] <anto> rob_p: i have no idea
[02:06] <rob_p> anto: You should probably pastebin the output of ifconfig.
[02:07] <anto> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24401/
[02:07] <rob_p> anto: If you followed the guide I posted earlier, you'd see that it covers all of this. :-)
[02:07] <sutabi> anyone know the know of the application that lets Edit docs at the same time of someone else? think I started with a g >.<
[02:07] <kismet> before i ask my question i'd like to specify that i've already searched through the forums and faq's and noting came up
[02:08] <anto> rob_p: the thing is that i'm only 15 and i'm not born in england so i realy dont understand all of it
[02:08] <rob_p> anto: eth2 is not configured.  That is your problem.
[02:08] <sharkbrainguy> I have somehow changed my wacom so that the stylus registers as a middle click (button2) in xidump but obviously I need it to be left click (button1?) how do I change it back?
[02:08] <ubuntu-rocks> guys, i can add the default route from the command line but i want to make it persistent, e.g from the /etc/network/interfaces config file
[02:08] <anto> rob_p: okej that dosen't sound to good maybe you could explain how i set it up?
[02:09] <rob_p> anto: Whenever you are using your Linux box as a NAT/gateway, you should have at least the internal network interface configured with a static IP.
[02:10] <kismet> i have 2 hard hdds (1:IDE / 2:SATA) (xp is already installed on sata) the ide is primary. I have 2 partitions on the IDE and i deleted one partition / formatted and installed ubuntu on it. On boot up though xp just starts normally. No grub nada :/
[02:10] <claesson92> !virtualizers
[02:10] <spacebear> '
[02:10] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[02:10] <andrea> \s irc.darksin.net
[02:10] <spacebear> im using wine and i looove it forever
[02:10] <ubu121> How do i get ubuntu to automatically login to terminal while booting?
[02:11] <spacebear> the answer i got. by reading the howtos
[02:11] <rob_p> anto: You need to configure a static IP for eth2 (your internal network interface).  This can be done via the /etc/network/interfaces file.
[02:11] <stroogle> in '/etc/apache2/sites-available/default' i have set my DocumentRoot to a dir in /home/.  there is a ScriptAlias set for cgi so shouldn't i be able to put a .cgi file in my dir that servers web pages and have perl process it?
[02:11] <anto> rob_p: yeah i know how to configure but i don't know _WHAT_ to configure it too
[02:11] <ubuntu_> hej
[02:12] <spacebear> ubu121 u need to change runlevel i think maybe so it stops in shell., and upi start from there.., not sure
[02:12] <kismet> any suggestions?
[02:12] <anto> rob_p i know how to configure a regular interface working  to a normal router but my router is dead now so i decided to do this but i have no idea where the gate way ip and stuff should be configured because i don't realy know what it means when you already got two network cards installed on the computer :/
[02:12] <ubu121> spacebeAR: I DID THAT , BUT WHAT ABT AUTO LOGIN?
[02:12] <rob_p> anto: Well, you can pick something in any of the designated private IP address space.    Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:15] <spacebear> ubu121
[02:15] <anto> rob_p done
[02:15] <spacebear> sorry tab mt
[02:15] <ubu121> my Apologies!
[02:15] <rob_p> anto: Ok.  Bring the interface up with the new configuration.
[02:16] <stroogle> can anyone tell me how perl should be set up on an ubuntu webserver?
[02:16] <anto> you mean do another ifconfig and paste?
[02:16] <stroogle> i may have it already
[02:16] <hwilde> stroogle, which webserver, apache?
[02:16] <stroogle> hwilde: yes, apache2
[02:16] <spacebear> rob;: you want to auto logi into kdm ?
[02:16] <rob_p> anto: Sure, that'll work.
[02:16] <spacebear> or gnomishness
[02:16] <BiTMAP> is idleing ok in here?
[02:16] <hwilde> stroogle, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-16578.html
[02:16] <kismet> i have 2 hard hdds (1:IDE / 2:SATA) (xp is already installed on sata) the ide is primary. I have 2 partitions on the IDE and i deleted one partition / formatted and installed ubuntu on it. On boot up though xp just starts normally. No grub nada :/
[02:17] <spacebear> BITMAP ..they are strict on iding
[02:17] <spacebear> i idled 3 sec once
[02:17] <spacebear> boom
[02:17] <anto> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24402/
[02:17] <BiTMAP> lol :P
[02:17] <hwilde> !grub | kismet
[02:17] <ubotu> kismet: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:17] <rob_p> anto: I've got to take care of something... I'm at work.  I'll get back when I can.
[02:17] <kismet> ty
[02:17] <hwilde> kismet, follow the recovering grub instructions that should work fine
[02:17] <BiTMAP> yah, i have fun with ubuntu doing formatting. id fix my partitions but instead imma just wait till i get my raid on this box and build my ubuntu dedicated machine.
[02:18] <anto> rob_p Okej :/
[02:18] <BiTMAP> cuase i dont feel like rebuilding ubuntu yet again
[02:18] <rob_p> anto: Looks like you need to do ifdown eth2 and then ifup eth2... gotta run for now.
[02:18] <Paddy_EIRE> is there anyway that I can in a Mepis style copy my exact setup onto a livecd now from ubuntu
[02:19] <spacebear> anto:what you doing ?
[02:19] <Paddy_EIRE> would like soething to demo for others
[02:19] <anto> spacebear: trying to setup this computer as a server using two network cards
[02:19] <spacebear> without a router...
[02:19] <spacebear> and linking another thrugh a regualar uto cable?
[02:19] <anto> yea
[02:19] <spacebear> utp
[02:20] <spacebear> w8 have recipe for u
[02:20] <anto> to bake a cake ^.^?
[02:20] <spacebear> ive done same thing on this one except wireless
[02:20] <spacebear> no .. commands
[02:20] <hwilde> spacebear, can you put your thoughts together on one line ok?
[02:20] <spacebear> one sec
[02:20] <hwilde> !enter | spacebear
[02:20] <ubotu> spacebear: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:21] <spacebear> il do
[02:21] <spacebear> will
[02:21] <hwilde> !apache | lovingyou
[02:21] <ubotu> lovingyou: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[02:22] <hwilde> bastid_raZor, chmod
[02:23] <bastid_raZor> hwilde thanks
[02:23] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know how to get frostwire/limewire to display correctly while running beryl?
[02:23] <hwilde> !beryl | Paddy_EIRE
[02:23] <ubotu> Paddy_EIRE: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:23] <Paddy_EIRE> hwilde, errr, thats not what I asked
[02:23] <hwilde> Paddy_EIRE, see where it says "Help in #ubuntu-effects"  ?
[02:24] <Paddy_EIRE> hwilde, already asked in ubuntu effects :)
[02:24] <Paddy_EIRE> asking here
[02:24] <hwilde> lol
[02:25] <Tom47> Paddy_EIRE: re yr prev question https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[02:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Tom47, oh nice one
[02:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Tom47, fantastic
[02:26] <spacebear>    still there
[02:26] <^rike^> Why doesn't one of my cd-roms get automounted and the corresponding icon show on gnome desktop?
[02:26] <spacebear> had to go through a pile of magaines?
[02:27] <hwilde> ^rike^, is there a cd in the drive
[02:27] <^rike^> yes
[02:27] <Paddy_EIRE> ^rike^, do you know if that cd works
[02:27] <berent> which is the best html editor
[02:27] <berent> on linux
[02:27] <^rike^> i can use it on the other drive
[02:27] <Myrtti> screem, quanta etc.
[02:27] <erlingre> I have some NFS problems with 7.04 in a diskless setup. During boot the client stalls for at least 1 minute while /usr is mounted over NFS. When it finally boots I can mount usr exported from the server in diffrent directories instantly. The delay is only while booting. any suggestions?
[02:27] <^rike^> and i can manually mount it
[02:27] <Paddy_EIRE> ^rike^, oh, is it a cd or dvd
[02:28] <berent> !screem
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[02:28] <^rike^> dvd, reader only
[02:28] <hwilde> berent, emacs is the best editor.
[02:28] <Paddy_EIRE> ^rike^, could you paste the output of fstab
[02:28] <berent> hwilde : what??
[02:28] <ccooke> hwilde: heathen. :-)
[02:28] <^rike^> in here?
[02:28] <hwilde> !pastebin | ^betul^
[02:28] <spacebear> hmm ., what was the name of the guy,.. anyway., set up ifconfig eth1 (or whatever eth) to <IP_ADDRESS> up
[02:28] <ubotu> ^betul^: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:28] <darkmatter> yup
[02:28] <hwilde> !pastebin | ^rike^
[02:28] <ubotu> ^rike^: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:29] <d747> does Ubuntu still disable admin tasks on the CUPS web interface?
[02:29] <spacebear> ifconfig mode
[02:29] <spacebear> mt
[02:30] <Granbar> Hello. I get a DPMSDisable error on my SDL apps... Is anybody familiar with this problem?
[02:30] <^rike^> the fstab contents is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24407/
[02:30] <berent> hwilde : emacs is vi right
[02:31] <Whoopie> Hi, I get an error while trying to upgrade to gutsy. "Package index files are corrupted"
[02:31] <Whoopie> Any hints how to solve?
[02:31] <hwilde> berent, emacs != vi
[02:31] <hwilde> !emacs | berent
[02:31] <ubotu> berent: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[02:31] <hwilde> !html | berent
[02:31] <ubotu> berent: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[02:33] <berent> hwilde : emacs has a lot of functionalities 42 MB to download i want a good "only html" editor
[02:33] <sahil> my bottom panel has disappeared what should I DO? noob here
[02:34] <magnetron> sahil: right click the upper panel and choose "new panel"
[02:35] <hwilde> berent, do you see the message from ubotu about html editors...
[02:35] <hwilde> !html > berent
[02:35] <rob_p> anto: Ok.  I'm back now.
[02:35] <CheshireViking> berent, just adding to the factiod from ubotu, NVU is no longer included within Ubuntu, its been replaced by Kompozer https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kompozer, but isn't included in the repositories
[02:35] <berent> hwilde : which is the best
[02:36] <anto> rob_p greate
[02:36] <hwilde> berent, I already told you, emacs!!
[02:36] <rob_p> anto: Ok, so do, "ifconfig eth0" and tell me if you see an IP address listed for it.
[02:37] <d747> does Ubuntu still disable admin tasks on the CUPS web interface? any1 know the answer?
[02:37] <berent> hwilde : i will take it
[02:37] <anto> rob_p: eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[02:37] <sharkbrainguy> my wacom intuos3 stylus clicks are showing as middle button clicks rather then left button clicks how can I fix this?
[02:37] <rob_p> anto: Oops!  I meant eth2.  :-)
[02:38] <fxfitz> I'm buying a commercial program for Linux, however they do not have "Ubuntu" as a selectable distrobution. They do have Linux Lindows, which has a .deb file. Do I download that to install???
[02:38] <jrib> fxfitz: ask them
[02:39] <rob_p> anto: It will be listed next to inet addr:
[02:39] <fxfitz> :"(
[02:39] <fxfitz> :(
[02:39] <anto> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24410/
[02:39] <jrib> fxfitz: you are paying them, they should tell you what works and what you can do to use the program.  And it's impossible for us to tell you if you do not mention what program it is (maybe someone else here has it).
[02:39] <anto> rob_p ifconfig eth2 | grep addr
[02:40] <anto> gonna restart network to see if it works
[02:40] <Gharbeia> Hi, did anyone get their internal mic on their Travelmate to work?
[02:40] <rob_p> anto: I assumed you had already done that.
[02:40] <fxfitz> jrib, Oh, I understand. I just wish they had an Ubuntu option. :-P
[02:40] <anto> rob_p: how do i restart it ?
[02:41] <rob_p> anto: The easiest way is to do, "sudo ifdown eth2" and then "sudo ifup eth2"
[02:41] <jrib> fxfitz: well you could ask them, it shouldn't be hard for them to create one since they already know how to create deb's
[02:41] <hwilde> ifconfig eth2 down; ifconfig eth2 up
[02:41] <rob_p> anto: hwilde that'll work too  :-)
[02:43] <rob_p> anto: Once you have brought eth2 back up, it should have the IP address you configured in the interfaces file.
[02:43] <^rike^> Why doesn't one of my dvd-roms get automounted and the corresponding icon show on gnome desktop?
[02:44] <rob_p> anto: So how'd it go?
[02:44] <anto_> rob_p still here?
[02:44] <ubuntu-rocks> guys, i can add the default route from the command line but i want to make it persistent, e.g from the /etc/network/interfaces config file
[02:45] <rob_p> anto_: Yup.
[02:45] <lovingyou> !ftp | lovingyou
[02:45] <deadend> exit
[02:45] <anto_> Sry for this spamm guys
[02:45] <anto_>  inet6 addr: fe80::202:44ff:fe64:4408/64 Scope:Link
[02:45] <rob_p> anto_: So what does, "ifconfig eth2" show for inet addr?
[02:46] <rob_p> anto_: Something's wrong then.
[02:46] <cypher1> ubuntu-rocks, you can try adding "gateway <address>" to the file
[02:46] <ubuntu-rocks> cypher1 - i already have a gateway line for that nic, itself, it complains if i have 2 lines that says gateway
[02:47] <cypher1> ubuntu-rocks, can you paste it
[02:47] <ubuntu-rocks> !pastbin
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <anto_> auto eth2
[02:47] <anto_> iface eth2 inet static
[02:47] <anto_> address <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:47] <anto_> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:47] <rjune> Does Ubuntu server integrate samba+ldap into it's default user management tools?
[02:47] <ubuntu-rocks> !pastebin
[02:47] <hwilde> !pastebin
[02:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:47] <anto_> sorry for spam
[02:47] <ubuntu-rocks> cypher 1 - will do
[02:48] <anto_> rob_p http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24410/ this is my interface file
[02:48] <lovingyou> !proftp | lovingyou
[02:48] <Shane-wx> if the disk in the drive is displayed on the desktop does that mean it has automatically mounted itself?
[02:49] <hwilde> !ftp > lovingyou
[02:49] <rob_p> anto_: Sorry about that.  I had to take a phonecall.
[02:49] <berent> hwilde : does emacs as helpful as dreamweaver
[02:49] <anto_> rob_p cest la vie
[02:49] <hwilde> berent, you are asking for matters of personal preference...   emacs is the ultimate editor in my opinion
[02:49] <orbin> Shane-wx: most likely
[02:50] <^rike^> i think not, but the disk doesn't appear in nautilus, either
[02:50] <anto_> rob_p what you suggest i do :/?
[02:50] <ccooke> berent: if you're wanting something like dreamweaver, *don't* look in emacs. Or vim, which is my preference.
[02:50] <ccooke> berent: you want a dedicated gui html editor, right?
[02:50] <lovingyou> !FTPd
[02:50] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[02:50] <lovingyou> !proftpd
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <anto_> i would say that quanta plus is like dreamweaver its what i use when writing php/html
[02:51] <lovingyou> !ftpd
[02:51] <dmatysiak> quick question: the ubuntu installer warns that it will destroy all data on any partitions i have "removed" . what does that mean? will that kill my /home partition if i haven't marked it for formatting?
[02:51] <berent> ccooke : yes
[02:52] <dmatysiak> in the past it hasn't
[02:52] <magnetron> dmatysiak: formatting will clear/destroy data
[02:52] <anto_> rob_p: any suggestions?
[02:52] <berent> ccooke : what do you suggest
[02:52] <rob_p> anto_: Unfortunately I don't have time to help you right now.  Too much going on at the moment.  However, perhaps in an hour or so I could get back to you. For now, if you can get eth2 to come up with the network settings in your interfaces file, simply follow the guide I posted and you'll have a NAT router up and running.  Good luck.  Gotta go...
[02:52] <dmatysiak> magnetron, i know that, hence my question. did you read it?
[02:52] <magnetron> yes, dmatysiak
[02:52] <anto_> rob_p k ill try again
[02:53] <Granbar> unknown symbol: DPMSDisable :(
[02:53] <ccooke> berent: I've heard some good things about scribus, but I haven't used it myself. You've also had quanta recommended as being dreamweaver-like
[02:53] <dmatysiak> magnetron, "WARNING: This will destroy all data on any partitions you have removed as well as on the partitions that are going to be formatted." what does it mean, partitions I have removed?
[02:53] <hwilde> anto_, are you just trying to set an IP?  it is easy
[02:53] <hwilde> dmatysiak, do you know what a partition is?
[02:54] <anto_> hwilde: i know how to set a ip thank you its just setting up a ubuntu box as a router with multipel eth cards that is abit harder
[02:54] <dmatysiak> hwilde, i am an experienced user. let's start with that. :) yes i know what a partition is. what i'm asking is, what does ubuntu mean by removed.
[02:54] <dedi> how secure is vino-server?
[02:54] <ccooke> dmatysiak: When you install Ubuntu, the guided partitioner (where you tell it to either "delete a partition and use the freed space" or "delete the whole disk and use the freed space") will remove some partitions to make space to install.
[02:55] <ccooke> if you chose manual partitioning, you may also have deleted some partitions
[02:55] <ccooke> in those cases, the data on partitions you delete will be lost when the install proceeds. Thus, the installer warns you
[02:55] <hwilde> anto_, chances are other people have already tried what you want to do.  did you search google?
[02:55] <hwilde> anto_, http://ubuntulinuxhowto.blogspot.com/2006/06/setup-your-computer-to-be-router.html
[02:55] <magnetron> dmatysiak: you can remove partitions in several ways. one is to use the guided partitioner.
[02:56] <DARKGuy> Good day people :) anybody know how can I get the IPs of the PCs on my network? kinda like "Active IP Scanner" in XP or same as querying a PC in LinNeighborhood?
[02:56] <anto_> already done that one dosen't help
[02:56] <dmatysiak> acha, okay. well, i guess that was obvious :) i manually changed things.
[02:56] <hwilde> DARKGuy, ping -b <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:56] <DARKGuy> hwilde: I don't know the IP, just the hostname
[02:56] <hwilde> DARKGuy, ping the hostname then it will show you ip
[02:56] <magnetron> DARKGuy: if they all use SMB, try smbtree
[02:56] <dmatysiak> the reason i ask is because as ubuntu becomes more user friendly, i am suspicious of what i will do behind my back :)
[02:57] <DARKGuy> hwilde: says unknown host with the ping command =/
[02:57] <hwilde> DARKGuy, do you have the dns servers in /etc/resolv.conf
[02:57] <DARKGuy> magnetron: No,  they're all XP machines, unless you mean that?
[02:57] <hwilde> DARKGuy, do you know what your IP is ?
[02:57] <magnetron> DARKGuy: yes, they are SMB machines then
[02:57] <DARKGuy> hwilde: yes
[02:57] <DARKGuy> magnetron: thanks for clarifying
[02:57] <magnetron> DARKGuy: use smbtree and nmblookup
[02:57] <dmatysiak> thanks guys
[02:57] <hwilde> DARKGuy, ping -b youripwithlastoctet.0
[02:58] <ubuntu-rocks> cypher1 - here is my pastebin http://apache.pastebin.ca/544437
[02:58] <ccooke> DARKGuy: ping -b sends a broadcast ping - given the network address, it will send a ping to all hosts on that network.
[02:58] <dylan_> is it possible to "finalize" a cd after it has been burned using k3b?
[02:59] <dylan_> apparently, my machine will not boot the ubuntu cd it has been fed.
[02:59] <fabio__|> which is the file in which is it set to print out "/etc/motd" on login? i have looked in the bash configuration files, but i have not found references to the motd..
[02:59] <BlueEagle> dylan_: Any .iso image burned are automatcally finalized afaik. (ie you can't burn a multi-session .iso image)
[02:59] <Dr_willis> fabio__|,  thers a bash option to not show the MOTD if thats wqhat you want.   grep the init scripts for 'motd' perhaps.
[02:59] <ccooke> DARKGuy: that's an active scan, but not all systems respond to ping. You can also do a passive scan, if you're an admin user and your network isn't too complicated.
[03:00] <DARKGuy> ccooke: how?
[03:00] <dylan_> BlueEagle: alrightey, thanks.  do you have any inclination as to why my machine won't boot the cdrom, then?  i have the bios set to boot cd first, and i forced it to select the cd-rom as the boot media.
[03:00] <ccooke> DARKGuy: That would either need additional software or some scripting, though
[03:00] <DARKGuy> hwilde: the ping command has not been having any effect :/
[03:00] <dylan_> but lo and behold, nothing.
[03:00] <hwilde> DARKGuy, windows firewall sucks...
[03:00] <DARKGuy> magnetron: smbtree returns the network names to me, but I need to get the ip o.O
[03:00] <DARKGuy> hwilde: it does :P we need to have it enabled too >.<
[03:00] <BlueEagle> dylan_: The most common error is to burn the .iso as a file on the cd instead of burning the files on the image to the cd.
[03:00] <fabio__|> Dr_willis: in the /etc/init.d a file set the content of the "motd", but i don't understand where it is written to "show" the content of the motd after the user login..
[03:00] <magnetron> DARKGuy: that's why i told you to use nmblookup
[03:01] <Dr_willis> fabio__|,  thats a feature of the shell to show it.
[03:01] <dylan_> BlueEagle: i burned the image the correct way, which is why my laptop now uses GNU/Linux.
[03:01] <BlueEagle> dylan_: How old is your cd-rom drive?
[03:01] <dylan_> BlueEagle: a few years, but it works fine when i'm actually in the OS itself.
[03:02] <BlueEagle> dylan_: Are you able to boot other CDs from it?
[03:02] <Dr_willis> fabio__|,  i think its some env setting. I forget the detils.  i also may be gettingit conrused with ssh. But i think theres some file you can make that  bash sees and then stays in a more-quiet mode
[03:02] <dylan_> BlueEagle: occasionally.
[03:02] <dmatysiak> btw, sry if i came off brash. :) you are providing a great service to people who are starting to use linux, as well as more experienced users. keep up the good work!
[03:02] <dylan_> BlueEagle: should i just shop for a new drive?
[03:02] <magnetron> DARKGuy: did you try nmblookup or what?
[03:03] <DARKGuy> magnetron: well I tried "nmblookup host", "nmblookup HOST", "nmblookup \\host", "nmblookup \\HOST", "nmblookup -W workgroup host" with no avail :/
[03:03] <mars> Hi all, i have a question. Firefox in my ubuntu looks very BIG. I mean i set up resolution and all others windows look good, but firefox is not. How can i make it similar to windows look?
[03:03] <BlueEagle> dylan_: Well if it's troublesome to boot from that might be a good idea. Especially if the disc boots on other machines/drives.
[03:03] <dylan_> BlueEagle: thanks a lot.  i'll do that.  take care.
[03:03] <BlueEagle> dylan_: No problem.
[03:04] <magnetron> DARKGuy: don't enter the hostname, enter the SMB network name
[03:05] <DARKGuy> magnetron: isn't that the PC name in XP?
[03:05] <magnetron> DARKGuy: yes it is
[03:05] <slackmagic> fabio__|: look at /etc/login.defs, comment one of the lines starting with  MOTD_FILE...
[03:05] <BlueEagle> darkguy: see also smbtree
[03:05] <DARKGuy> magnetron: well, it's not working, that's what I tried :P
[03:05] <Dr_willis> fabio__|,  i cant find WHERE i saw that at.. May of been in the Oriealy Using Bash book i got. Its also possble its a option/feature of the 'login' command.
[03:05] <ritalin> robbed a jewlry store and told them make me a grill
[03:05] <Dr_willis> aha slackmagic  is on the rigth track.
[03:05] <magnetron> DARKGuy: XP switch places between the comment and the name for a PC
[03:06] <DARKGuy> BlueEagle: been using that, it only gets me the names but not the IPs :P
[03:06] <BlueEagle> darkguy: Be aware that SMB systems easily get confused when the SMB master is rebooted. Thus using the windows NFS drivers might be a more satisfying solution.
[03:06] <tatters> my screensaver is blank,yet when I choose and test screensaver it is fine,also if I choose suspend from logof option the sceensaver actually kicks in works for the few seconds it takes my box to go into standby ;/
[03:07] <BlueEagle> darkguy: also note that \\ = \ so you might want to try \\\\host
[03:07] <DARKGuy> BlueEagle: I see, thanks for the tip
[03:07] <DARKGuy> BlueEagle: d'oh, forgot about that xD
[03:07] <BlueEagle> ;D
[03:07] <magnetron> This is what smbtree give me: " \\UBUNTU1                          ubuntu1 server (Samba, Ubuntu)" so i use nmblookup UBUNTU1
[03:08] <BlueEagle> magnetron: try nmblookup \\\\UBUNTU1
[03:08] <DARKGuy> magnetron, BlueEagle, hwilde: Yup, looks like the problem is on the other end. I was able to nmblookup another PC on the network, so that command's working cool with just the PC name :P
[03:08] <smalinovskij> hi to all! i've got a question to the ubuntu guru! :) how to wipe out all critical data from the SCSI HDD, so, nobody will be able to restore it afterwards
[03:09] <tatters> Use a large magnet?
[03:09] <VoX> i was thinking that
[03:09] <magnetron> smalinovskij: this is not 100% safe, but you could use a tool called "wipe"
[03:09] <VoX> :)
[03:09] <anto> rob_p You here ???? its setup the ip what should i do now?? i still don't have internet on my main computer but i do see it threw the nmap 192.168.1.*
[03:09] <BlueEagle> magnetron: \ is the escape character that is used for special characters like newline (\n), tab (\t), backslash (\\) and so on). Thus \\ = a litteral \ on the command line.
[03:09] <tatters> treat it to a dose of thermalite
[03:10] <mars> is there superkaramba for ubuntu?
[03:10] <hwilde> where are the bootup messages logged?
[03:10] <magnetron> BlueEagle: i know that. you don't need any \ at all for this situation
[03:10] <slackmagic> hwilde: try dmesg
[03:10] <Dr_willis> mars,  its in the repos. Karamba is normally used with kde.. gdesklets for gnome
[03:10] <BlueEagle> magnetron: Ok. Then please disregard my statements. :D
[03:10] <smalinovskij> thanks, i'll try wipe
[03:10] <Dr_willis> !info gdesklets
[03:10] <ubotu> gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 466 kB, installed size 2452 kB
[03:10] <hwilde> slackmagic, no I want the messages that scroll on boot like Configuring network interfaces [FAILED]
[03:10] <longpig> mars, both equally useless, of course
[03:11] <chariot_> My NTFS partition cannot be mounted and Windows has crashed, as usual.  Windows will not start and I'd like to recover my data using Ubuntu.  Can I fix the NTFS partitions from Ubuntu, mount the NTFS partitions and recover my data?
[03:12] <Dr_willis> Theres some NTFS tools for linux. but ive never tried themn to 'fix' a ntfs partition. I do recall a (not legal) XP Live cd. somewhere on the net. Or a xp install cd may be able to fix it.
[03:12] <Jowi> mars, I would recommend screenlets ( http://hendrik.kaju.pri.ee/screenlets/ ) which are much less buggy then gdesklets
[03:12] <anto> ccooke: you here?
[03:12] <ccooke> anto: not very, but yes
[03:12] <BlueEagle> chariot_: What caused your NTFS partition to become corrupted?
[03:12] <tatters>   I think it is easier to prevent windows from crashing than learning linux
[03:12] <anto> wait ill make a pastebin of my ifconfig
[03:12] <chariot_> We lost power when Windows was running.
[03:12] <tatters> ntfs-ng has a ntfs fix thingy me bob
[03:12] <DARKGuy> magnetron, BlueEagle, hwilde: so, thanks for the help ^_^
[03:12] <mars> can i use karamba aplets with gdesklets?
[03:13] <ccooke> anto: are you still after connection sharing help? I probably have the time to go over it now
[03:13] <Dr_willis> mars,  they are 2 different systems. so no, not that i know of.
[03:13] <anto> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24415/
[03:13] <mars> where can i find aplets for gde?
[03:13] <hwilde> where are the bootup messages logged?
[03:13] <Frogzoo> !docs
[03:13] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[03:13] <BlueEagle> hwilde: /var/log/dmesg iirc
[03:13] <anto> ccooke: my main computer shows up on nmap 192.168.1.* but i ain't got any internet?
[03:14] <mars> ou i have it
[03:14] <Dr_willis> mars,  check the repositoies/pcakcage manager. or some googling for gdesklets will show its homepage/sites of appl;ets
[03:14] <anto> ccooke: mayeb i should set somthing up on it?
[03:14] <ccooke> anto: okay. How do you connect to the internet?
[03:14] <Jowi> mars, gdesklets-data
[03:14] <BlueEagle> anto: I'm sorry, but I didn't see the start of your question. How is your network set up?
[03:14] <anto> threw a dsl connect to my server (i'm on the server at the moment)
[03:14] <anto> ccooke: threw a dsl connect to my server (i'm on the server at the moment)
[03:14] <lovingyou> checking whether the C++ compiler works... configure: error: cannot run C++ compiled programs.
[03:15] <lovingyou> I dont understand
[03:15] <lovingyou> I have gcc and cpp installed
[03:15] <lovingyou> what missing ?
[03:15] <ccooke> anto: and your server is the machine you want to enable connection sharing on, yes?
[03:15] <tarzeau> lovingyou: binutils?
[03:15] <BlueEagle> anto: Have you set up ipforwarding trough your server?
[03:15] <BlueEagle> !firestarter | anto
[03:15] <lovingyou> tarzeau what binutils?
[03:15] <ubotu> anto: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:15] <tarzeau> lovingyou: pkg
[03:15] <DarkED> toniglandyl: where are you?
[03:15] <hwilde> BlueEagle, that is just dmesg, I want to see the messages on boot
[03:15] <lovingyou> tarzeau binutils is installed.
[03:15] <BlueEagle> anto: firestarter will set up internet connection sharing.
[03:15] <tarzeau> lovingyou: buildessential?
[03:15] <tarzeau> lovingyou: what are you trying to build?
[03:16] <BlueEagle> hwilde: Not sure about that. But browse your log directory. Not sure it's saved.
[03:16] <gilo1> firestarter is awesome
[03:16] <tarzeau> lovingyou: build-essential
[03:16] <lovingyou> tarzeau a dc++ hub
[03:16] <hwilde> BlueEagle, darn it doesnt look like it is anywhere
[03:16] <lovingyou> I'm installing now build-essential
[03:16] <lovingyou> worked :)
[03:16] <lovingyou> thanks
[03:17] <gilo1> anyone know of a good gui for snort?
[03:17] <anto> ccooke: yes that what i wanna do
[03:17] <lovingyou> How can I install the mysql-devel ?
[03:18] <lovingyou> apt-get install mysql-devel / mysql-dev doesn't work...
[03:18] <DJ-_-> hi
[03:18] <ccooke> anto: okay. as people have said, you can use firestarter to configure connection sharing.
[03:18] <DJ-_-> I am having a problem with ubuntu
[03:18] <ccooke> anto: have you installed and tried it?
[03:18] <DJ-_-> very slow...
[03:18] <DJ-_-> it has become seriously slow
[03:18] <jazzcat> hi. i am trying to install grub from an ubuntu livecd and i have to say i amb not able to do it. can someone tell me if i am doing well ?
[03:18] <Jowi> DJ-_-, what is slow and what are the computers specs?
[03:18] <anto> Going to now
[03:18] <Slart> DJ-_-: is everything slow?
[03:18] <montgon> je ne comprend que le francais ou le castillan et le catalan
[03:18] <lovingyou> How can I install the mysql-devel ? apt-get install mysql-devel / mysql-dev doesn't work...
[03:19] <DJ-_-> I just installed it yesterday...and it is very slow as in boot time and application loading time ---- 2.4GHZ 1.5GB RAM 96VGA 40GB HArd
[03:19] <Slart> !fr | montgon
[03:19] <Jowi> montgon, va a #ubuntu-fr
[03:19] <ubotu> montgon: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:19] <doviende> lovingyou: why doesn't it work?  what's the message?
[03:19] <DJ-_-> @Slart yes
[03:19] <stefg> jazzcat: what's the device name of the drive you want grub install to?
[03:19] <lovingyou> doviende
[03:19] <lovingyou> E: Couldn't find package mysql-devel
[03:19] <DJ-_-> @Jowi  I just installed it yesterday...and it is very slow as in boot time and application loading time ---- 2.4GHZ 1.5GB RAM 96VGA 40GB HArd
[03:19] <lovingyou> same for mysql-dev
[03:19] <BlueEagle> jazzcat: I am assuming you've installed linux then re-installed windows and thus lost grub that way. What you need to do is mount your linux partitions and chroot into them and then re-install grub from the chroot. I think that's the easiest way but I may be wrong.
[03:19] <Slart> DJ-_-: was it ever fast? or slow since the install?
[03:20] <DJ-_-> Slart: it was fast at the beginning comparatively
[03:20] <doviende> oh, i don't see any existing mysql-dev package
[03:20] <doviende> weird
[03:20] <lovingyou> yah :)
[03:20] <lovingyou> its weird.
[03:20] <DJ-_-> Slart: i am on gnome-desktop ubuntu fiesty
[03:20] <doviende> libmysqlclient-dev
[03:20] <noelferreira> how to minimize mozilla thunderbird to the system tray?
[03:20] <Slart> DJ-_-: until you installed something? huuuugesoftwarepackagethatrunsinthebackground.deb perhaps? ;)
[03:21] <DJ-_-> Slart: nothing installed as yet
[03:21] <jazzcat> BlueEagle: you almost assumed the right thing. I am trying to install a linux in a new hd to a machine with an old windows
[03:21] <lovingyou> doviende thats the package?:)
[03:21] <doviende> libmysqlclient15-dev
[03:21] <Jowi> DJ-_-, does not sound promising. did you install any application to make it behave that way or it's been like that since the first boot?
[03:21] <doviende> lovingyou: i think so
[03:21] <DJ-_-> Jowi: no
[03:21] <Slart> DJ-_-: ok.. default options I presume? ext3 etc
[03:21] <doviende> lovingyou: p   libmysqlclient15-dev            - mysql database development files
[03:21] <DJ-_-> Slart: yes
[03:21] <anto> O my god thanks so bloody mutch eagel,ccookeand rob_p its working now
[03:21] <lovingyou> doviende worked :)
[03:21] <lovingyou> now I need pcre-devel
[03:21] <lovingyou> haha
[03:21] <Lacrymology> does anybody have any experience compiling Comical8.0?
[03:21] <DJ-_-> Slart: but was much faster when i installed yesterday but after 3-4 hours tthe performance depreciated badly
[03:21] <doviende> lovingyou: i did "aptitude search mysql | grep dev" and saw that
[03:22] <Slart> DJ-_-: if you open the process explorer thingy.. (system, administration, system monitor)... processes page.. what is the load average?
[03:22] <gilo1> I'm looking for two different GUIs to help me out with managing things... I need one for Snort and one for IPSec.. anyone have suggestions?
[03:22] <BlueEagle> jazzcat: Are you using SATA, PATA or SCSI disks or a mix of them?
[03:22] <doviende> lovingyou: libpcre3-dev maybe?
[03:22] <cidwel> hello
[03:22] <Jowi> DJ-_-, sounds like an indexing service is running or something like that. follow Slart advice.
[03:22] <DJ-_-> Slart: 1.35, 1.77, 1.22
[03:22] <doviende> lovingyou: same thing, aptitude search pcre | grep dev
[03:22] <inflex> hiya all, I need something I can convert a 2D DXF/CAD file into 3D
[03:22] <DJ-_-> Jowi: ok
[03:22] <inflex> well, rather, I want to import into a 3D program a 2D outline (which I'll then extrude/cap etc
[03:23] <Slart> DJ-_-: hmm.. any processes using more than 10% cpu in the list?
[03:23] <cidwel> what is the difference of nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new pleease
[03:23] <lovingyou> worked
[03:23] <lovingyou> thank you :)
[03:23] <DJ-_-> Slart: gnone-system-monitor at 15+
[03:23] <Slart> cidwel: new is newer.. =).. afaik it's only a different version
[03:23] <cidwel> omg
[03:23] <cidwel> ok
[03:23] <BlueEagle> cidwel: Check the changelogs and/or the nvidia home page.
[03:24] <tim167_> i have a harddisk connected to IDE, but it didnt mount by itself, how can i mount it from the terminal, i dont see it in /media...thanks
[03:24] <dbrewer_rjr> i am having an issue with shorewall. it allows me to make an ftp connection on a nightly cron as root, but not open a data connection to transfer the file in. I dropped the firewall and it is proceeding nicely. ???
[03:24] <Slart> DJ-_-: and everything else is below 10%? .. odd..
[03:24] <KomiaPoika> hi
[03:24] <BlueEagle> cidwel: afaik some cards don't play well with the newer driver and thus both are availible in the repos. Also the wiki (wiki.ubuntu.com) is a good resource.
[03:24] <DJ-_-> Slart: yes
[03:24] <Slart> DJ-_-: in the view menu.. enable "All"
[03:24] <DJ-_-> Slart: yes
[03:24] <Slart> DJ-_-: or.. "All processes"
[03:25] <BlueEagle> cidwel: (I am assuming you've tried google already so I don't think it need mentioning but I'll mention it just in case :D)
[03:25] <cidwel> yes, i tried but the only thing that i found is that the driver is buggy
[03:25] <KomiaPoika> i screwed up my system trying to dist-upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04, and now my system is stuck: when trying to apt-get -f install, i repeatedly get on the error: package has no field-python version
[03:25] <Slart> DJ-_-: check the resources page..
[03:25] <BlueEagle> cidwel: Well there you go. :)
[03:26] <DJ-_-> Slart: CPU 9-20%
[03:26] <Slart> DJ-_-: are you sure you're not running something in the background.. bittorrent, dc++ etc?
[03:26] <DJ-_-> Slart: no
[03:26] <DJ-_-> Slart: nothing in background
[03:26] <doviende> KomiaPoika: is that the exact error?
[03:26] <DJ-_-> Slart: only gaim i guess
[03:26] <stefg> tim167_: you need to device name of the partition. fdisk -l gives you a list... the it's like sudo mount /dev/blah99 /mnt
[03:26] <DJ-_-> Slart: should I try adding my hostname to the /etc/hosts?
[03:27] <Slart> DJ-_-: gaim shouldn't really be a problem... in a terminal run this "uname -a" what is the output
[03:27] <DJ-_-> Slart: i just read that on the net
[03:27] <tsb> can you rip music cd's with gnomebaker?
[03:27] <KomiaPoika> doviende: no, but i dont have mouse in tty
[03:27] <Slart> DJ-_-: but you say everything is slow.. even running local stuff..
[03:27] <stefg> !info soundjuicer | tsb
[03:27] <ubotu> tsb: Package soundjuicer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:27] <stefg> huh?
[03:27] <KomiaPoika> so i cant cut n pastge
[03:27] <Slart> DJ-_-: what kind of graphics are you running? desktop effects?
[03:27] <DJ-_-> Slart: yeah and apps take 10-20 secs to open
[03:27] <tim167_> stefg do i have to install fdisk ? i get command not found
[03:27] <DJ-_-> Slart : black bg
[03:27] <doviende> KomiaPoika: ok, so it's close enough then
[03:28] <neil_feisty> tsb, nope, use soudjuicer
[03:28] <neil_feisty> soundjuicer
[03:28] <KomiaPoika> doviende: it's a /usr/bin/pycentral error
[03:28] <doviende> i've never heard of "package has no field"
[03:28] <stefg> tim167_: sudo fdisk  -l
[03:28] <doviende> oh
[03:28] <doviende> hmm
[03:28] <DJ-_-> Linux XXXXX 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Wed May 23 01:46:23 XXX 2007 i686 GNU/Lin
[03:28] <KomiaPoika> and i cant deinstall and reinstall python, because it stucks on that error
[03:28] <Slart> DJ-_-: system, preferences, desktop effects.. disabled or enabled?
[03:28] <KomiaPoika> it happens trying to instlal bycicle repair
[03:29] <stefg> !info sound-juicer | tsb
[03:29] <tsb> yeah I found it thanks
[03:29] <ubotu> tsb: sound-juicer: GNOME 2 CD Ripper. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.3-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 784 kB, installed size 3460 kB
[03:29] <DJ-_-> Slart: disabled
[03:29] <KomiaPoika> it basically whines about python-central deps
[03:29] <doviende> KomiaPoika: can you tell hat stage of the install of the package it is?  pre-install, post-install, or whatever?
[03:29] <DJ-_-> Slart: someone told me to get kubuntu desktop you think i should try that?
[03:29] <Slart> DJ-_-: what programs are running slow? firefox? openoffice?
[03:29] <KomiaPoika> doviende: it downloaded 1GB of packages, installed a few dozens of them and then stuck on that error
[03:29] <DJ-_-> Slart: all take 10-20 secs to load
[03:30] <Slart> DJ-_-: I don't think KDE will run any faster... if anything I would say slower
[03:30] <KomiaPoika> i can't figure out any command to purge the process
[03:30] <doviende> KomiaPoika: ok, try just "aptitude install packagename" where packagename is the right one
[03:30] <DJ-_-> Slart: ok what could be the possible error? Shall i try the /etc/hosts?
[03:30] <doviende> and then maybe you'll get more info
[03:30] <Slart> DJ-_-: you could try xubuntu if you're looking for a more light weight system.. but with your specs you shouldn't have to
[03:30] <KomiaPoika> doviende: what right one?
[03:30] <Slart> DJ-_-: I don't see how it could do any harm.. why not try it
[03:30] <doviende> uhh...whatever one makes that message
[03:30] <DJ-_-> Slart: gimme a sec
[03:31] <doviende> the package name just before the error
[03:31] <tim167_> stefg alright, so now i do sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt for example ?
[03:31] <stefg> tim167_: right
[03:31] <KomiaPoika> huh, i hit aptitude install python and it's installing freetype fontes
[03:31] <hwilde> tim167_, sudo mkdir /mnt/mydrive;   sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/mydrive
[03:32] <DJ-_-> Slart: wow....its much better lol but still takes upto 4 secs
[03:32] <tim167_> hwilde , why ntfs ?
[03:32] <doviende> KomiaPoika: a common solution to apt problems is to just try the single package that's having problems, and sometimes it'll either tell you more info, or it'll fix itself
[03:32] <hwilde> tim167_, well whatever filetype it is
[03:32] <doviende> then after that, you can go back to the full upgrade again
[03:32] <Slart> DJ-_-: at first I was thinking you were running something in the background.. such as azureus, indexing of hard drive.. or some background task.. next I would check drivers for graphics, network etc.. something might be wrong there... last I would start checking IDE harddrives for DMA settings and such.. perhaps memory
[03:32] <DJ-_-> Slart: it was listed on ubuntu bugs section
[03:32] <tim167_> hwilde how do i see the filetype ?
[03:32] <Jowi> DJ-_-, you don't have beagle or anythiing like that installed?
[03:32] <hwilde> tim167_, you dunno what filetype that partition is?
[03:32] <KomiaPoika> doviende: i can't deinstall bicycle, because it produces the same python error
[03:33] <Slart> DJ-_-: oh.. known error.. odd.. never heard of it before.. do you have a link to the bug report?
[03:33] <DJ-_-> Slart: i just switched from windows and i need help doing that
[03:33] <lupo7> Does somebody know how to mount a LMV partition in ubuntu server 7.04??? It's a disk that had suse 10.0 before.
[03:33] <DJ-_-> Slart: a sec
[03:33] <doviende> KomiaPoika: what's aptitude doing right now?  did it go back to the error again?
[03:33] <KomiaPoika> however i'm trying with bicycle now
[03:33] <slackmagic> tim167_: sudo fdisk -l
[03:33] <tim167_> hwilde, its a disk where i had ubuntu on, but now i put it in another computer and want to read from the old disk
[03:33] <stefg> !lvm | lupo7
[03:33] <ubotu> lupo7: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:33] <aMMuNix> I'm trying to set a hotkey to fullscreen a window using gconf-editor,whatever I set the hotkey to be, it won't work!
[03:33] <KomiaPoika> doviende: wait let me try on the targeted package
[03:33] <hwilde> tim167_, try ext3 then
[03:33] <doviende> ok
[03:33] <Slart> DJ-_-: of course we'll help you.. just letting you know what might be worth looking at
[03:34] <knoppix> hey ppl
[03:34] <DJ-_-> Slart: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop/+bug/94048
[03:34] <lupo7> !lvm
[03:34] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:34] <lupo7> tnx
[03:34] <KomiaPoika> doviende: now it's stuck on python-central
[03:34] <Slart> DJ-_-: looking at it now
[03:34] <aMMuNix> !fullscreen
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fullscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <KomiaPoika> "removing python-central..."
[03:34] <erUSUL> lupo7: mount -t fstype /dev/xxxx /mount/point ?? donno how lvm devices are named though
[03:35] <KomiaPoika> doviende: can i /msg you?
[03:35] <doviende> ya
[03:35] <aMMuNix> I'm trying to set a hotkey to fullscreen a window using gconf-editor,whatever I set the hotkey to be, it won't work!
[03:35] <Slart> DJ-_-: wow.. I'm going to give that a try myself... hang on
[03:35] <knoppix> im getting a error msg when i try to boot my installed ubuntu, something like timer sync i think, any clues on how to solve this??
[03:35] <DJ-_-> Slart: ok
[03:36] <nofxx> any help with realtek RTL 8139D  on feisty? its on lspci... but never on ifconfig...
[03:36] <tim167_> ok thanks guys i got it
[03:37] <sbcsrv> I have an mtune error when I compile my kernel with distcc. Somebody had an idea about it ?
[03:38] <stefg> erUSUL: LVM is somewhat different...
[03:38] <TxsTchN2> this is the ubuntu help chat thing right?
[03:38] <anto_> Hiho
[03:38] <DJ-_-> TxsTchN2: yes
[03:38] <anto> uhm lol
[03:39] <TxsTchN2> I am totally new lol, so far I like ubuntu though
[03:39] <stefg> TxsTchN2: read /topic and do what you are told there :-)
[03:39] <stroogle> after installing a perl module and restarting apache, i can't connect to my linux box by winscp or putty, anyone had that?
[03:39] <CheshireViking> TxsTchN2, yes, you're in the support channel, if you're after general chat, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:39] <ma_> Is it normal to have 6 proccesses of apache?
[03:39] <DJ-_-> TxsTchN2: welcome to the world of linux!!
[03:39] <Slart> DJ-_-: well. I think my gnome system got a bit faster too.. sweet
[03:39] <stroogle> the webserver is running though
[03:39] <DJ-_-> Slart: hehe kewl
[03:39] <DJ-_-> Slart: How do i check the settings you were talking of?
[03:39] <slackmagic> ma_: yes
[03:39] <sbcsrv> ma_ yes, you can define the number in the configuration
[03:40] <Slart> DJ-_-: well.. hard drive settings can be changed using hdparm
[03:40] <ma_> Does it matter?
[03:40] <Slart> DJ-_-: if you're using pATA drives... it doesn't work on SATA
[03:40] <DJ-_-> Slart: from terminal sudo hdparm i guess?
[03:40] <TxsTchN2> ok so I like the way the desktop version looks is there a way so set it up to use LAMP like the server version?
[03:40] <Slart> DJ-_-: indeed... you might have to install it
[03:40] <DJ-_-> Slart: ah k
[03:40] <Slart> DJ-_-: can't remember if it's included by default..
[03:40] <stroogle> why would it suddenly kick me out?
[03:40] <Slart> !info hdparm
[03:40] <ubotu> hdparm: tune hard disk parameters for high performance. In component main, is standard. Version 6.9-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 60 kB, installed size 240 kB
[03:40] <DJ-_-> Slart: ok
[03:41] <DJ-_-> Slart: its already enabled in services
[03:41] <slackmagic> ma_: nope, it doesn't...as long as your apache runs fine you shouldn't have to worry
[03:41] <stroogle> anyone?
[03:41] <lupo7> stefg: Do you have a link for LVM mount?
[03:41] <DJ-_-> Slart: what are the settings i got to make in hdparm
[03:41] <CheshireViking> !lamp > TxsTchN2, See the private message from Ubotu
[03:41] <Slart> DJ-_-: oh.. ok.. then it should be there.. you run it with a hard drive device name as a paramterer "hdparm /dev/hda" for example
[03:42] <stroogle> after installing a perl module and restarting apache, i can't connect to my linux box by winscp or putty, anyone had that?
[03:42] <slackmagic> stroogle: maybe your sshd is not running?
[03:42] <stroogle> slackmagic: i see, what's the command to get it going?
[03:42] <DJ-_-> Slart: using dma and reahhead (265) only enabled
[03:42] <DJ-_-> read*
[03:42] <Jowi> DJ-_-, "hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc" would turn on DMA for my DVD-Rom. hdparm --help for more options :)
[03:42] <Slart> DJ-_-: IO_support?
[03:42] <DJ-_-> Jowi: thanks
[03:42] <TxsTchN2> ah ok thank you, i am new to this chat system too, so ill have to get use to it.. alright well i need to reboot for my updates and ill take a look at that thanx guys
[03:42] <DJ-_-> Slart: off
[03:42] <stefg> lupo7: read the howto i gave you earlier... there is no single 'mount' for lvm volumes, because you hvae to know which PE s (physical extends) belong to a VG (volume group)... that's no trivial task you are attempting
[03:42] <slackmagic> stroogle: do    ps -aux | grep sshd
[03:43] <DJ-_-> Slart: 0 defualt 16bit
[03:43] <slackmagic> any results?
[03:43] <DJ-_-> default**
[03:43] <Jowi> DJ-_-, to make it default, you need to edit /etc/hdparm.conf I believe
[03:43] <DJ-_-> Jowi: it shows that
[03:43] <Slart> DJ-_-: try this first  "sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda"
[03:43] <stroogle> slackmagic: because i'll have to change monitors i'll have to do this in one go, what will i look for after i've greped?
[03:43] <Slart> DJ-_-: it will do a quick benchmark
[03:43] <DJ-_-> Slart: ok hol on
[03:44] <Slart> DJ-_-: just to have something to compare with
[03:44] <lupo7> stefg: OK thanks.
[03:44] <DJ-_-> Slart:  Timing cached reads:   834 MB in  2.00 seconds = 416.73 MB/sec
[03:44] <DJ-_->  Timing buffered disk reads:  132 MB in  3.03 seconds =  43.58 MB/sec
[03:44] <slackmagic> stroogle: if it's running it should list possible processes run by root with   /usr/sbin/sshd ..if it's not you might just get nothing in return (then you know you have to run the ssh daemon to be able to use winscp / putty to connect via ssh)
[03:45] <yell4> hello there
[03:45] <Slart> DJ-_-: ok.. try this now.. "sudo hdparm -c 1 /dev/hda".. it will enable 32-bit IO transfer thingies
[03:45] <stroogle> slackmagic: ok.  how to run the ssh daemon?
[03:45] <DJ-_-> Slart: done
[03:45] <Slart> DJ-_-: and run the benchmark again
[03:46] <yell4> i am trying to change the gnome distributor-logo.png , but cant get it done, any tips are welcome
[03:46] <DJ-_-> Slart:  Timing cached reads:   792 MB in  2.00 seconds = 396.05 MB/sec
[03:46] <DJ-_->  Timing buffered disk reads:  126 MB in  3.04 seconds =  41.43 MB/sec
[03:46] <slackmagic> stroogle: it's in your init.d folders somewhere, I'm not running ubuntu, so i can't help you there sorry
[03:46] <snook> Hi, I neet to run php script in console which should run after I will close SSH session. How can I do it?
[03:46] <stroogle> slackmagic: thx
[03:46] <DJ-_-> Slart: guess its better to disable it?
[03:46] <Slart> DJ-_-: eh.. odd.. it should have become faster.. not slower.. well.. you can reset it by doing a sudo hdparm -c 0 /dev/hda
[03:47] <necrite_> hi all
[03:47] <DJ-_-> Slart: done n re benchmarking
[03:47] <Juhaz> except it probably already was on and the "slower" is just slight measurement change
[03:47] <DJ-_-> Slart:  Timing cached reads:   724 MB in  2.00 seconds = 361.62 MB/sec
[03:47] <DJ-_->  Timing buffered disk reads:  136 MB in  3.02 seconds =  45.04 MB/sec
[03:47] <rijo> anyone know how to mount ext3 from windows xp?
[03:47] <DJ-_-> lol
[03:47] <snook> Hi, I neet to run php script in console which should run after I will close SSH session. How can I do it?
[03:47] <DJ-_-> Slart: i can just say lol
[03:47] <Slart> DJ-_-: hdparm is a weird beast.... lots of options.. lots of things to change.. but your numbers are pretty ok. I get about 600 and 60 with an AMD64x2
[03:48] <snook> `php script.php` is what i need?
[03:48] <DJ-_-> Slart: ok..
[03:48] <snook> ah sorry `php script.php &`?
[03:48] <DJ-_-> Slart: any other performance tweaks?
[03:48] <necrite_> where is the alsaconf package? i make one apt-cache search alsaconf and i didint find it
[03:49] <Slart> DJ-_-: well.. you can always disable stuff you're not using.. disabling ipv6 might give you some performance boots when using dns
[03:49] <DJ-_-> Slart: i feel that gnome is very slow for me...any way i can switch to KDE without losing anything?
[03:49] <DJ-_-> Slart: how do i get rid of ipv6
[03:49] <Slart> DJ-_-: you can install the KDE desktop ... I'm not sure if it will be as lean as a fresh install.. but it's doable
[03:49] <rambo3> ask ubotu
[03:49] <Slart> !ipv6
[03:49] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[03:50] <DJ-_-> Slart: will it much faster than gnome?
[03:50] <Slart> it might affect web browsing and other things using dns
[03:50] <stefg> DJ-_-: are you running ATI-graphics?
[03:50] <DJ-_-> Slart: i mean the gnome and kde
[03:50] <DJ-_-> stefg: no intel chipset
[03:51] <manurespreader> hi for all i would please to rate our idea at oneyeartrip.com :) a lot of thanks
[03:51] <DJ-_-> stefg: no,*
[03:51] <Slart> DJ-_-: I haven't tried KDE for a long time.. my guess would be that they are about equal
[03:51] <DJ-_-> Slart: ok i will stick to gnome then and let me try disabling ipv6
[03:51] <stefg> DJ-_-: so what's your machine like cpu/ram -wise ? kde won't be faster ingeneral
[03:52] <DJ-_-> stefg: one is p4 2.4ghz/1.5gb ram another machine i plan to switch: p3 1ghz/256mb
[03:52] <CheshireViking> rijo, have a look at this website, http://www.fs-driver.org/
[03:52] <rijo> CheshireViking, ok
[03:52] <Slart> DJ-_-: the next step I guess would be compiling your own kernel... some say that the low latency kernel feels faster.. some say it doesn't make any difference.. I didn't notice any difference
[03:52] <DJ-_-> Slart: thanks for your help if i need anything i will ask
[03:52] <Slart> DJ-_-: you're welcome..and good luck
[03:53] <DJ-_-> Slart: more tweaks? :D
[03:53] <stefg> DJ-_-: so go xubuntu with the p3.... and what exactly is slow on gnome?
[03:53] <DJ-_-> stefg: loading of apps
[03:53] <qaws> hi, I have problem with Opera under Ubuntu - it takes 89% of CPU and it takes about 2 seconds to switch a tab
[03:53] <DJ-_-> Slart: how do i do that?
[03:53] <qaws> how can i solve it?
[03:53] <stefg> DJ-_-: apps like ?
[03:53] <DJ-_-> stefg: all
[03:54] <DJ-_-> stefg: 4-5secs
[03:54] <Slart> DJ-_-: nope.. I think I've run out for the moment.. you're moving into a territory of chasing diminishing returns.. you can tweak for weeks and in the end your computer boots 3 secs faster.. I don't know if it's worth it =)
[03:54] <DJ-_-> Slart: ah lol ok thanks
[03:55] <^rike^> Why with my dvd-rom only cd's get automounted but not dvd's in gnome desktop?
[03:56] <^rike^> I can mount dvd's manually, though.
[03:56] <ward_> how do i close manbual?
[03:56] <ward_> ctrl-c works everywhere but in the retarded manual program
[03:56] <DJ-_-> stefg: any ideas?
[03:56] <doviende> ward_: "q"?
[03:57] <ward_> doviende, thanx
[03:57] <doviende> :)
[03:57] <ward_> i tried everything
[03:57] <ward_> and there's a program that autoopens the manual when done compiling
[03:57] <ward_> and i need to see the compile output
[03:57] <ward_> lol
[03:57] <mrhjkim> In unbuntu, how can I change my desktop style like mac os X such as program short cut?
[03:58] <qaws> hi, I have problem with Opera under Ubuntu - it takes 89% of CPU and it takes about 2 seconds to switch a tab. How can I solve it?
[03:58] <ward_> huh :s
[03:58] <Ltsnead> Hey, I'm new to IRC, and Linux in general, is there anyway to connect to zirc server through this cliet? It's not in the server list
[03:59] <custom163> having trouble with console display over ssh keep getting    instead of f - or | any ideas?
[03:59] <doviende> Ltsnead: what client are you using?
[03:59] <stefg> DJ-_-: it's not a problem of the Desktop... and 4-5 secs for e.g. firefox is pretty average. what do you expect? you could use the preload daemon and maybe optimize here and there a bit, but that won't improve it by orders of magnitude
[04:00] <DJ-_-> stefg: i just installed yesterday and have not installed any plugins and have only chkd gmail
[04:01] <DJ-_-> stefg: the 2nd part I am clueless lol
[04:01] <stefg> !info preload | DJ-_-
[04:01] <ubotu> dj-_-: preload: adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-3 (feisty), package size 33 kB, installed size 172 kB
[04:01] <mrhjkim> It's my first time install for ubuntu and I need recommendation for desktop style tool.
[04:01] <|rt|> has anyone gotten to the bottom of what's causing random system freezes in Feisty?  I saw that a number of people are reporting this on the forums.
[04:01] <doviende> hmm...i just realized i'm using the Canadian mirror for ubuntu still, even though i'm living in china right now
[04:01] <doviende> woops
[04:02] <mrhjkim> anyone have any suggestion?
[04:02] <DJ-_-> stefg: thanks
[04:02] <DJ-_-> !ipv6
[04:02] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[04:02] <|rt|> my mythtv box at home is driving me nuts with this system freeze issue....may reinstall edgy
[04:02] <DJ-_-> thanks bot :P
[04:02] <Spider> Ah,  I just got it, dpkg -S /usr/bin/filename,  to backwards-resolve a file to a package
[04:02] <DJ-_-> brb
[04:02] <Spider> Thanks though
[04:02] <JiffaMaafan> ello all
[04:02] <DJ-_-> Slart Joey and stefg thanks a lot
[04:03] <ipx> After installing 2 lib-packages, my firefox wont start. I copied the files from the lib-dir from the packages to /usr/lib/ (Packages: nspr-4.4.1 and nss-3.9) and firefox gives me this unpleasant message: "/usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/firefox/components/libdocshell.so: undefined symbol: PR_GetPhysicalMemorySize". Any ideas?
[04:04] <nofxx> how to bring my 3Com NIC up??? its on lspci but not on ifconfig
[04:04] <ipx> try ifconfig -a
[04:04] <ipx> do you see it?
[04:04] <|rt|> nofxx: is it's driver loaded?
[04:05] <nofxx> ipx: yea bro. .tnx.. i was trying eth1... but it assigned eth2 ..... heheh... is the pci slot that changes this?
[04:05] <ipx> nofxx: no idea :)
[04:05] <nofxx> |rt|: tnx bro.. working xD
[04:05] <nofxx> ipx: ok...ty anyway xD
[04:05] <stefg> nofxx: look at /etc/iftab
[04:06] <anto> http://pastebin.ca/544541 can somone help me with this problem :S?
[04:06] <burepe> can someone take a look at the problem I am having and give me some advice? my hard drive is hdc ever since I started using it but after the fiesty update I am having troubles. I am not sure how to fix it Check it out here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2786745#post2786745
[04:06] <nofxx> stefg: ty, that will make this more organized here....  just a question... can I use arp 1  on all of them?
[04:07] <stefg> nofxx: not sure... try it
[04:09] <nofxx> stefg: trial and error... saves the world !
[04:09] <nofxx> xD
[04:09] <anto> http://pastebin.ca/544541 can somone help me with this problem :S?
[04:09] <stefg> burepe: paste your /etc/fstab and the output of 'blkid' to !pastebin as mentioned in /topic
[04:10] <rambo3> !lamp | anto
[04:10] <ubotu> anto: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:10] <burepe> stefg, I gotta start up the live cd to get the blkid but the fstab is posted in the forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2786745#post2786745
[04:10] <DJ-_-> back
[04:11] <anto> Rambo3: that didnt help
[04:12] <erUSUL> burepe: ide disks are now recogniced as /dev/sdxx (scsi disks just like usb and sata before)
[04:12] <erUSUL> !uuid | burepe
[04:12] <ubotu> burepe: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[04:12] <necrite_> where can i find the alsa-conf package?
[04:12] <melon> i installed feisty from the live cd but when i try to load - i get left with a flashing underscore thingie without actually loading anything.. any ideas or links i should check to fix this?
[04:12] <rambo3> anto, it says you have server running at :  <IP_ADDRESS>:80 . just change it to <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[04:12] <stefg> burepe: ah, i see.. you need to give the UUID of the root-drive to the kernel root=/dev/hdc1 won't work with libata... use root=UUID=85b1eb3c-8f01-4478-9b58-3ae813807ae8  instead
[04:13] <stefg> burepe: talking of menu.lst
[04:13] <burepe> so just change that in the menu.lst?
[04:13] <stefg> burepe: yes, for a start
[04:13] <hounited1> erm how do i configure dkpg
[04:14] <hounited1> when i enter sudo dkpg --configure -a
[04:14] <hounited1> i was suppose to enter my passowrd, but i cant type anyhting in
[04:14] <hounited1> anyone help pls
[04:14] <tim167_> can I TYPE a location to go to in Gnome-Commander ?
[04:14] <erUSUL> hounited1: that command configures packages not dpkg itself afaics
[04:15] <hounited1> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[04:15] <hounited1> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[04:15] <hounited1> i go that pop up when i try update
[04:15] <hounited1> how should i solve it?
[04:15] <erUSUL> hounited1: password chars are not echoed to escreen but that does not mean that it is not acepting the password
[04:15] <anto> ramob3: and how do i change that?
[04:15] <tim167_> is there an alternative to gnome-commander that supports keyboard input ?
[04:16] <hounited1> pls help
[04:17] <Dr_willis> hounited1,  and  ' sudo dpkg --configure -a  ' dosetn help eh?
[04:17] <hounited1> god..u must be some sort of god..it works when u mentioned it
[04:18] <DJ-_-> stefg: new problem my gmail wont get logged in :D
[04:18] <DJ-_-> :S*
[04:18] <Dr_willis> hounited1,  you WERE using the 'sudo' befor?
[04:18] <hounited1> yeap
[04:18] <hounited1> i type the same thing many time
[04:18] <hounited1> it dint work
[04:18] <hounited1> untill you told me
[04:19] <hounited1> thanks Dr_willis..now working through it
[04:20] <rambo3> use the force Dr_willis
[04:20] <karrotx> is there a way to install a package and all it's suggested packages?
[04:20] <hounited1> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-386
[04:20] <hounited1> cp: cannot stat `/etc/udev/rules.d/85-brltty.rules': No such file or directory
[04:20] <FiZzY> Karrotx, for the large ones with many suggested packages - you just need to pick a META package.
[04:20] <hounited1> what does that mean
[04:21] <hounited1> and how to solve that
[04:21] <Andeh> Hey, is there an animation package for ubuntu? Maybe a simple frame-by-frame one?
[04:21] <Andeh> And no, I don't mean GAP.
[04:21] <karrotx> FiZzY: how do i find a meta package?
[04:22] <demo_N> I run 32 bit opera in a 64 bit ubuntu, I have installed flash for opera, I still find the youtube videos jittery even after complete buffering
[04:22] <FiZzY> karrotx, You should see it in the description in Synaptic, if you do not chances are the program you are trying to install - has not created on for their stuff
[04:22] <FiZzY> Demo, what Flash do you have? - 9?
[04:22] <demo_N> FiZzy:yeah
[04:23] <FiZzY> I think Ubuntu still installs default
[04:23] <stroogle> suddenly i can't use winscp or putty after a perl install.  i put apache2 back to how i found it, made sure sshd was running, but still no dice.  ideas?
[04:23] <FiZzY> flash 7 by default*
[04:23] <burepe> stefg, I did that but now it says it can't find the partition. No boot
[04:23] <Andeh> Is there a good animation package for ubuntu?
[04:23] <tarzeau> Andeh: blender ?
[04:23] <Dr_willis> stroogle,  check the ssh logs. perhaps enable vebose logging for ssh and try agian.. try 'ssh localhost'   - check logs some more. :)
[04:23] <demo_N> FiZzy: Iam on 64 bit ubuntu
[04:24] <Andeh> tarzeau: Blender is not a good idea if you're going to draw frame by frame animation with a brush tool.
[04:24] <stroogle> Dr_willis: aha, what's the command to view ssh logs?
[04:24] <Andeh> And i mean something where i can draw a frame, press next frame and draw the next.
[04:24] <Dr_willis> stroogle,  look in /var/log* for themn
[04:24] <FiZzY> Demo, Oh, I have no clue about the 64bit system sorry :(
[04:24] <stefg> burepe: the UUID might not be right.. best you boot to Live CD and come back from there so you are able to look at the system you are trying to troubleshoot
[04:24] <stroogle> Dr_willis: brb
[04:24] <tarzeau> Andeh: 2d animation?
[04:25] <Andeh> tarzeau: Yes. Oh, sorry i thought i said that
[04:25] <tarzeau> Andeh: how many frames do you plan to have?
[04:25] <burepe> stefg I am there. So check with blkid?
[04:25] <tarzeau> gimp can do simple gif animations. but i woudln't do more than 20 frames with it
[04:25] <Marcvs> anyone around to give me some help?
[04:25] <erUSUL> !anyone > Marcvs
[04:25] <hwilde> !ask | Marcvs
[04:25] <ubotu> Marcvs: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:26] <Andeh> tarzeau: Put it this way: I want a program where that won't matter
[04:26] <stefg> burepe: give me menu.lst, /etc/fstab and blkid output to !pastebin
[04:26] <Marcvs> okay: Its an install problem.. I cant install any version of ubuntu on my PC
[04:26] <tarzeau> Andeh: i see... i liked deluxe paint, remember it?
[04:26] <Andeh> tarzeau: To answer properly, usually about 30, but sometimes 500
[04:26] <stefg> burepe: and a sudo fdsik -l listing
[04:26] <tarzeau> Andeh: cool. for a game? movie?
[04:26] <Andeh> tarzeau: No, not really
[04:26] <stefg> burepe: sudo fdisk -l
[04:26] <Andeh> tarzeau: No, for my online avatar
[04:26] <Marcvs> It has to be 64bit because of my programs, and my processor is 64bit compatible
[04:26] <Andeh> tarzeau: I meant i don't remember deluxe paint
[04:26] <Jowi> tarzeau, I see a few packages in the repos. not sure they are any good but might be worth a try.
[04:27] <Jowi> !info synfig
[04:27] <ubotu> synfig: vector-based 2D animation package. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.61.05-8 (feisty), package size 42 kB, installed size 148 kB
[04:27] <Marcvs> so any ideas?
[04:27] <Andeh> tarzeau: For games i use flash, and for things like flash I wont be seeing a native linux alternative for some time yet.
[04:27] <Parmenion> whats a good amt of space for /boot?
[04:27] <tarzeau> gnash but it sucks
[04:27] <anto> Can somone help me+??
[04:27] <tarzeau> Andeh: oh there's many other stuff one can use for games
[04:28] <anto> http://pastebin.ca/544541
[04:28] <Andeh> tarzeau: Yes, but I use flash for games and that runs fine in wine (but i cant install it in wine due to disk space shortage
[04:28] <tarzeau> k
[04:28] <Parmenion> like, a general guideline for partitions
[04:29] <erUSUL> Marcvs: you have to give us much info than "I cant install any version of ubuntu on my PC" . Any error msgs? what stage of the install fails? can you boot the liveCD? have you tried the alternateCD? ...
[04:29] <AlbertoP> hi
[04:29] <Andeh> tarzeau: So PaintDeluxe might be good?
[04:29] <erUSUL> Marcvs: also what version of ubuntu?
[04:29] <Marcvs> okay; boots upto Start or install ubuntu then screen goes black, yes ive tried the alternate and my PC is modern
[04:29] <Marcvs> 6.06LTS and 7.04 ive tried
[04:29] <tarzeau> Andeh: it was for amiga :)
[04:30] <stefg> Parmenion: /boot can be like 50 MB, i have 128 MB and hold a rescue image on it. generally the / fs is comfortable in 10-12 GB, use the rest for /home
[04:30] <Andeh> tarzeau: Oh... LOL
[04:30] <Pirolocito> help with NetworkManager Applet 0.6.4 please!
[04:30] <Kaso> So, im confused by command line searching, find locate and whatnot. I want to recursively search for any file with "fred" (case insenstive) in the title within a certain directory, how do i go about that
[04:31] <erUSUL> Marcvs: have you tried any boot option? noacpi acpi=off or something else? it is a laptop? maybe you just need to pass the apropiate vga=.... ? (/me just shooting in the dark ;P)
[04:31] <Andeh> tarzeau: Ummm... you know Easytoon?  It's very good, obviously not as good as flash but still very good.
[04:31] <iam8up|lpy> does all the recent *buntu releases have nano?
[04:31] <iam8up|lpy> or pico? or both?
[04:31] <Pirolocito> NetworkManager Applet 0.6.4 - connection information gives me Could not find some required resources (the glade file)! - Any idea?
[04:31] <Sp4rKy> does someone know how i can connect on many computer at the same time with ssh ?
[04:31] <Marcvs> nope its a desktop, i can give ya the specs ive you want em
[04:31] <Parmenion> thanks stefg .... need to install windows for a certain app which doesnt run well under wine ... thus by as well take the opportunity to partition properly=)
[04:31] <burepe2> stefg ok here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24430/
[04:31] <deardorff> I am trying to build a kernel module,  the install script trys to run mkinitrd (which relies on udev, which is no longer in the 2.6 kernel)... how do i manually install the module... whats the normative procedure?
[04:31] <Marcvs> sp4rky: use multiple instances
[04:32] <erUSUL> Kaso: man find ;P find /dir -name 'fred' -print
[04:32] <Andeh> tarzeau: So is there any program aimed at 2D FBF animation? Using an image manipulator and adding an animation plugin can't be the best way, i'm sure of that
[04:32] <erUSUL> Kaso: man find ;P find /dir -name '*fred*' -print
[04:32] <Marcvs> ive not tried boot options cos i cant set em :(
[04:32] <erUSUL> !boot | Marcvs
[04:32] <ubotu> Marcvs: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:32] <tarzeau> Andeh: nope, does it have source for linux port?
[04:32] <tarzeau> Andeh: i don't know of any sorry
[04:33] <stefg> burepe2: and  the /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab of the installed system
[04:33] <Marcvs> nah before i get there the screnn goeds black so i cant do it
[04:33] <Andeh> tarzeau: Oh... so i'm stuck with windows programs, even with a 10 KB monochrome gif animation.
[04:33] <Marcvs> and i dotn have a floppy
[04:33] <burepe> I will copy and paste it but it is in this forum right now http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2786745#post2786745
[04:33] <tarzeau> Andeh: :(
[04:33] <Andeh> tarzeau: I mean obviously you can do it on linux, but the methods are less than lovely
[04:33] <burepe> stefg look at my last post
[04:34] <erUSUL> deardorff: udev does exist in modern kernels (devfs was the deprecated) you are right that mkinitrd no longer works... i use mkinitramfs
[04:34] <tarzeau> Andeh: i know, there's a lot of software lacking for artists
[04:34] <tarzeau> Andeh: but some software gems exist
[04:34] <tarzeau> Andeh: i know of 3d stuff and music trackers
[04:34] <stefg> burepe: ok, if it didn't change
[04:34] <Andeh> tarzeau: Trackers?
[04:34] <tarzeau> Andeh: yes, like midi authoring software
[04:34] <nico__> hello
[04:34] <tarzeau> Andeh: with computer keyboard
[04:34] <Marcvs> system is core 2 duo 3.2ghz, Intel P35 Mobo, 8800 GPU, 2gb ram
[04:35] <tarzeau> Andeh: search schism tracker in google, for example
[04:35] <Andeh> tarzeau: ok...
[04:35] <stefg> burepe: but yu have fesity now installed right? that means 2.6.20 kernel, not 2.6.17 anymore
[04:35] <nico__> anyone happen to know how to get dual screen on a laptop with a ATI card working?
[04:35] <Andeh> tarzeau: Gimp is good, i like it more than photoshop, and i run FL STUDIO in wine, but i would at least expect a simple bitmap animation program...
[04:37] <stefg> burepe, so better get me the actual files, not the outdated ones from the forum post
[04:37] <Andeh> Ok, anyone else here know a simple 2d animation program? Vector or bitmap, color needed, transparency?
[04:37] <tarzeau> Andeh: try mtpaint - painting program to create pixel art and manipulate digital photos
[04:37] <tarzeau> don't think it does animations, not sure
[04:37] <Marcvs> andeh - for windows?
[04:37] <tarzeau> Andeh: and there's pixen 3 for mac os x... it could be ported to gnustep
[04:37] <Marcvs> or nix?
[04:37] <anto> http://pastebin.ca/544541 Can somone help me with this apache error?
[04:37] <Andeh> Marcvs: Would I be here if it was for windows?
[04:37] <Marcvs> errm.. nope
[04:37] <nico__> :D
[04:38] <Andeh> tarzeau: Can mtpaint animate??
[04:38] <Marcvs> you could run it through wine or somethin tho
[04:38] <tarzeau> Andeh: not sure, i don't think so, but it's nice bitmap drawing, try it
[04:38] <nico__> flash?
[04:38] <Parmenion> now, to clean
[04:38] <Andeh> lol
[04:38] <anto> http://pastebin.ca/544541 Can somone help me with this apache error?
[04:38] <Parmenion> cya later laddies =)
[04:38] <stefg> !repeat | anto
[04:38] <Andeh> Ok. There must be a way to decompile flash, and then recompile it, right?
[04:38] <ubotu> anto: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:38] <Marcvs> anto: have you got httpd.conf set right because its using localhost atm
[04:39] <Andeh> lol
[04:39] <anto> marcvs: what else should it use :S?
[04:39] <Marcvs> its a DNS error;
[04:39] <RodGo> hi, i have an ati card and i want to change screen resolution
[04:39] <RodGo> is there a comand similar to nvidia-settings but for an ati card?
[04:40] <Marcvs> ive not used bind for ages but you need to set it to use a nameservered or IP configuration and then map the name to the IP
[04:40] <strabes> RodGo: I believe there is an "fglrx-control" package
[04:40] <taico> taico
[04:40] <Andeh> tarzeau: Hmm... i remember synfig but it looks... not suited for a 10 kb avatar :D
[04:40] <Andeh> tarzeau: Rather massive...
[04:41] <DJ-_-> does gmail require anything ipv6? cuz after disabling it I am unable to login to gmail the page stays blank
[04:41] <tarzeau> Andeh: yep
[04:41] <tarzeau> DJ-_-: no
[04:41] <DJ-_-> hmm
[04:41] <DJ-_-> what could be possibly wrong then? Any ideas?
[04:43] <godzirra> Ok, does anyone have experience with wireless on laptops?  For some reason my Network Manager Applet doesn't show the wireless at all...
[04:43] <kaizad> hey can someone tell me a nice place 2 chat arround with girls ????? :D ...
[04:43] <Marcvs> wireless + laptop = busted
[04:43] <burepe2> stefg: here is it all up dated, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24434/ also, the kernels I have in grub are <IP_ADDRESS> and 10
[04:44] <Luxurious> What's the easiest way to set up a LAMP server on your local machine?
[04:44] <stefg> burepe2: ok... let me see
[04:44] <godzirra> Marcvs: no, the wireless works just fine.  I need the applet to work correctly.
[04:44] <DJ-_-> :S gmail...
[04:44] <Marcvs> ah ubuntu doesnt work with my wireless card
[04:45] <Jimmey> Where do I go to ask about "Desktop effects" in Ubuntu 7.04?
[04:45] <Marcvs> grr
[04:45] <Marcvs> still wont install
[04:45] <Jimmey> Marvcs, what card?
[04:45] <pierre_> helle
[04:45] <pierre_> hello
[04:45] <teamwork> Jimmey, #ubuntu-effects
[04:45] <Marcvs> new 200Mbit one - its an ES one
[04:45] <Jimmey> Thanks teamwork
[04:45] <Marcvs> es = engeneering sample
[04:45] <teamwork> ur welcome
[04:45] <ALMimoni> hi, how to remove sopcast tv player, I install it from this guide http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_SopCast_.28p2p_internet_TV_client.29
[04:45] <Frogzoo> Jimmey: #ubuntu-effects
[04:45] <Andeh> tarzeau: Ok, i think i found a simple gif animator, and im going to install synfig too. Luckily, both are in the repos :-D
[04:46] <stefg> burepe2: hmm... didn't you say you upgraded to feisty? That would mean a 2.6.20 kernel must be present. Was the upgrade interrupted?
[04:46] <tarzeau> Andeh: gifsicle ?
[04:46] <fragger56> I seem to have broken xorg on my laptop install, the most recent thing ive done or changed was trying to get my swap to work. I have already tried to do the reconfigure xorg trick via the recovery mode
[04:46] <Andeh> tarzeau: Yes
[04:47] <Arrick> hey all
[04:47] <Andeh> tarzeau: Isnt it good? You would have reccomended it if it was?
[04:47] <Arrick> how do i extract a tar.gz file ina  terminal console?
[04:47] <burepe2> stefg: it wasnt interupted. It just wouldnt start after I did it.
[04:47] <ALMimoni> hi, how to remove sopcast tv player, I install it from .deb package
[04:47] <MattJ> Arrick: tar xvvzf file.tar.gx *I think*
[04:48] <Arrick> thanks
[04:48] <neil_feisty> Arrick, tar -xzvf filename
[04:48] <Pirolocito> Arrick: tar zxfv fil
[04:48] <Jimmey> ALMimoni, it should turn up in Synaptic package manager
[04:48] <stefg> burepe2: there is no sign of an upgrade. How did you start the process, and what happened?
[04:48] <fragger56> is there a way to fix my ubuntu setup/xorg problem short of a reinstall?
[04:48] <Solarion> are there !gutsy
[04:48] <Andeh> tarzeau: Oh, i'm reading that you already need to have all the frames as seperate gif files.
[04:48] <Solarion> grr
[04:48] <Solarion> !gutsy
[04:48] <Jimmey> fragger56, what kind of error messages are you getting?
[04:48] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[04:48] <Andeh> tarzeau: Doesnt help much
[04:49] <stefg> burepe, and have you plugged your disk to another IDE channel lately?
[04:49] <fragger56> jimmey: GDM just tells me it cant start xorg
[04:49] <Jimmey> fragger56, and what did you say the most recent major changes you've made are?
[04:49] <tarzeau> Andeh: no it's just that i packaged it :)
[04:49] <Solarion> man.  I gets the new hard drive 1 day before Tribe CD 1
[04:49] <hounited1> how do i enable package manager to download files from 3rd party software provider?
 thx
[04:50] <tarzeau> Andeh: do you never play some 3d games?
[04:50] <burepe2> stefg: i used the upgrade gui thing. Nothing strange happened during it. It was like a month ago soI am having trouble remembering details
[04:50] <Andeh> tarzeau: You packaged it :D
[04:50] <Andeh> tarzeau: Not much, no, why?
[04:50] <burepe2> stefg: the one in the toolbar
[04:50] <Arrick> thanks all
[04:50] <tarzeau> Andeh: i found out about www.sauerbraten.org packages one or two weeks ago, and i got totally addicted
[04:51] <fragger56> jimmey: the only thing i can think of is trying to get my swapfile to work, as my laptop was lagging massively when i tried to use virtualbox. i realised that my swap partition wasnt being used so i tried to get it to work, found out that the uuid based settings for drive usage wernt working and i tried to fix the drive info stuff for the swap partition
[04:51] <Frogzoo> !sauerbraten
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sauerbraten - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <Solarion> sweet!  gutsy CDs are out
[04:51] <tarzeau> Frogzoo: it's in non-free/contrib
[04:51] <tarzeau> Frogzoo: does it know about gutsygibbonthingy?
[04:51] <XnX17> i need help
[04:51] <stefg> burepe2: ok, to get things straight: you did not upgrade to feisty (7.04) but to edgy (6.10), right? and you have had dapper on the box(6.06)  before?.
[04:52] <tarzeau> Frogzoo: i've seen quite a few ubuntu players, i know fuddl made the pkgs for debian
[04:52] <Andeh> tarzeau: I just opened synfig and... um...
[04:52] <Jimmey> fragger56, when you're doing a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", select "vesa" as the driver
[04:52] <Andeh> tarzeau: I made a new document... now how do i draw something?
[04:52] <tarzeau> Andeh: dunno, i didn't recommend that one, never used it
[04:52] <XnX17> can anyone help me install linux ubuntu
[04:52] <Andeh> tarzeau: lol
[04:52] <fragger56> jimmey: lemme try that now, and thanks
[04:52] <Absorto> hello! is there a way to run apache 2.0 instead of 2.2 in feisty?
[04:52] <Marcvs> can anyone offer any more clues as to why ubuntu wont install fot me
[04:53] <tarzeau> XnX17: yes
[04:53] <nico__> does anyone know how to get a second screen on a laptop with ATI graphics card working?
[04:53] <alex-_> is there a program to talk to a serial port like hyperterminal?
[04:53] <Andeh> tarzeau: LOL. I click "Help" Then it says "Sorry, this feature has not yet been implemented" :(
[04:53] <XnX17> ok tarzeau
[04:53] <tarzeau> Andeh: rofl
[04:53] <burepe2> stefg: I upgraded from edgy to fiesty. I cant remember if i upgraded from dapper to edgy or did a fresh install. I think it might have been fresh
[04:53] <tarzeau> Andeh: check the homepage maybe?
[04:53] <Andeh> tarzeau: Which is rubbish since they have online docs
[04:53] <Absorto> alex-_: minicom
[04:53] <Andeh> tarzeau: So they could atleast make it link to them :-D
[04:53] <tarzeau> Andeh: maybe they are not free?
[04:53] <Andeh> tarzeau: lmao
[04:54] <alex-_> Absorto, thanks, ill try that
[04:54] <Andeh> tarzeau: You get the help files if you donate, and you get banned if you help anyone use it
[04:54] <Andeh> tarzeau: :)
[04:54] <XnX17> how do i install it i formatted my hard disc and i dont understand it ask for 2 gb and yes im a newbie how much mb is 2 gb ? and i formatted my hard drive i tryed everything to install it and i put the parttiton at end
[04:54] <tarzeau> *shrugs* i want to play sauerbraten
[04:54] <dust_t> hi i am new in ubuntu. my sound card volume is very low. how can i fix it ? it is set to maximum but still sound is very low volume.
[04:54] <tarzeau> XnX17: 2gb is 2000mb
[04:54] <rob_p> anto: Did you get your Ubuntu NAT router configured yet?
[04:54] <stefg> burepe2:  there is no feisty on your box, and things a starting to look messed up enough to justify a reinstall. do you have means to backup the disk (at least your personal files?
[04:54] <Andeh> tarzeau: Look what they call it :-D "Synfig is a powerful, industrial-strength vector-based 2D animation software package, designed from the ground-up for producing feature-film quality animation with fewer people and resources."
[04:55] <fragger56> jimmey: i think the just errored, tells me ite creating a symbolic link then read-only filesystem
[04:55] <XnX17> oh
[04:55] <tarzeau> dust_t: the button on the speakers? the other sound levels?
[04:55] <Andeh> tarzeau: and it doesnt even come with a help file :D
[04:55] <fragger56> gonna try a restart anyway'
[04:55] <tarzeau> Andeh: is only for pro people not n00bs like you ;)
[04:55] <DJ-_-> anyone know why firefox and gmail may have problems? I tried clearing cookies n cache n stuff but still no reponse??? Any help would be appreciated
[04:55] <godzirra> Ok, does anyone have experience with wireless on laptops?  For some reason my Network Manager Applet doesn't show the wireless at all...
[04:55] <dust_t> tarzeau, its also set to maximum. it is a dual boot with windows xp. sound is fine there.
[04:56] <dust_t> tarzeau, in ubuntu also i can hear it but very low.
[04:56] <Andeh> tarzeau: I can imagine the "Pro" people using synfig to make Finding Nemo
[04:56] <Solarion> use vmware server and boot Windows under vmware.  ;)
[04:56] <Ix0s> DJ-_-, The only problem I ever got was not actually having cookies turned on inside foirefox
[04:56] <alexIdoia> is there a way to force a crontab to execute now
[04:56] <tarzeau> Andeh: did you see the example movies clips?
[04:56] <Solarion> you can boot it right off the disk.  It is teh awesome.  :)
[04:56] <XnX17> tarzeau but i tryed to install it at the entire hard disc and it froze during the installation i use to have vista but i used my vista disc to format the hard disc
[04:56] <DJ-_-> lx0s: it is turned on by default yesterday i was able to login but today i cant
[04:56] <XnX17> like it froze at 64 percent
[04:56] <tarzeau> XnX17: dunno, sorry. i use debian
[04:56] <DJ-_-> only change i made was disable ipv6
[04:56] <XnX17> oh
[04:56] <Jimmey> fragger56, ahh
[04:56] <fragger56> godzirra: you have a hardware or software switch on your laptop? cause on mine if i hit the softbutton it turns the wireless off or on without telling me, so try hitting the wireless switch
[04:57] <Andeh> tarzeau: Yes. They are ok...
[04:57] <dust_t> i also saw the example clips in live cd but couldn't hear them
[04:57] <Jimmey> That sounds bigger than a xorg problem..
[04:57] <fragger56> jimmey: x server is still broken
[04:57] <burepe2> stefg: I spent weeks setting up a server and drupal. I would really like to find a way to fix it instead of a new install. I had edgy. Can i just update to fiesty from the command line? What is really messed up?
[04:57] <Marcvs> btw does anyone know if my Xfi will wotk in 7.04
[04:57] <godzirra> fragger56: I do, but the wireless is definitely on.
[04:57] <godzirra> I'm downloading stuff through it.
[04:57] <frolle> I have mounted a shared device with this command: sudo mount -t smbfs. How do i get permission to edit in this folder now?
[04:57] <kaizad> some one plz help me get a chat room where i can get some galzzz 2 chat to ! ?
[04:57] <rob_p> anto: I guess you aren't around...
[04:57] <fragger56> jimmey: i htink i broke the config file for my drives
[04:57] <kaizad> plzzzzzzzzz
[04:57] <godzirra> the network manager only shows wired which is greyed out, or manual config.
[04:57] <Solarion> !lart kaizad
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lart kaizad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <XnX17> tarzeau what do you recommend for my pc to use on my laptop? wich one do you think i should get that will actually work instead of ubuntu
[04:58] <Solarion> ubotu: you should learn it then
[04:58] <fragger56> is there any way i can view or edit it from terminal? cause if i can then i think i can fix it
[04:58] <Jimmey> fragger56, how are your drives setup
[04:58] <DJ-_-> !gmail
[04:58] <ubotu> gmail is a webmail service. For information on using it with Evolution see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[04:58] <kaizad> thanx !
[04:58] <tarzeau> XnX17: with your knowledge, ubuntu. it's feisty right?
[04:58] <Jimmey> fragger56, which file do you need to edit?
[04:58] <XnX17> yeh
[04:58] <RodGo> hey how i change my screen resolution i am using an ati video card
[04:58] <fragger56> jimmey: i have 1 60gb physical drive with 2 parrtitions on it, a 58gb OS part and 2gb swap
[04:58] <tarzeau> XnX17: where you live?
[04:58] <tarzeau> XnX17: find local linux user group and try make them help you?
[04:58] <XnX17> usa new york
[04:58] <XnX17> k
[04:59] <RodGo> i cant see more than 800x600 in my gnome systerm menu
[04:59] <fragger56> jimmey: im going to have to look that up again... it was the one that states what each partition/drive is used and mounted
[04:59] <Telep> is there a way for beryl to use the top and bottom of the cube as a desktop too?
[04:59] <fragger56> was /etc/ something
[05:00] <Dr_willis> RodGo,  you install the fglrx drivers yet?
[05:00] <Jimmey> fragger56, I know which that is.
[05:00] <Jimmey> fragger56, try, "sudo nano /etc/fstab"
[05:00] <Jimmey> fragger56, careful, though.
[05:00] <RodGo> i installed the drivers
[05:00] <RodGo> from the gnome panel
[05:00] <RodGo> restricted drivers
[05:00] <fragger56> jimmey: that sounds right
[05:00] <stefg> burepe2: first you have to check if the /etc/apt/sources.list points to the feisty repos (and i promise, they do not). after your sources.list is right you go 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'... that should trigger an upgrade. But noone knows how broken the box will be after that because it's in an unclean state now. If it's a server i'd rather backup (so you have your...
[05:00] <stefg> ...conf-files secured) and start over
[05:01] <Dr_willis> RodGo,  you may have to restrt the X server. or perhaps reboot for them to take effect
[05:01] <ling> RodGo: i could not set higher than 1024x768, until i added a "Modeline" in xorg.conf
[05:01] <fragger56> jimmey: i think if i get rid of the uuid for the swap drive that should fix it, as i changed the syntax of stuff after the uuid, plus the uuid wasnt being registered proerly or smth, which was keeping the swap from registering right
[05:02] <RodGo> how is that ling?
[05:02] <godzirra> Ok, does anyone have experience with wireless on laptops?  For some reason my Network Manager Applet doesn't show the wireless at all...  My wireless works fine, but I have no wireless option in the manager.
[05:02] <stefg> burepe2:  and BTW by keep your drupal and server stuff on a separate partiton, so you're not loosing it even if you reinstall the base-system
[05:02] <EFing_A> hello.. this is my 1st time in ubuntu...and.. it rocks!
[05:02] <fragger56> jimmey: and replace it with the old style syntax for drives
[05:02] <RodGo> ok ill try to reboot it right now
[05:02] <RodGo> ill be back Dr_willis
[05:02] <teamwork> EFing_A, great.  welcome to Ubuntu.
[05:02] <RodGo> :p
[05:02] <Marcvs> so anyone have any ideas as to why my screen goes black really fast
[05:03] <Jimmey> fragger56, I think there's some specific commands for enabling swap
[05:03] <Marcvs> as soon as i try to load ubuntu
[05:03] <Jimmey> fragger56, something like, swapon/swapoff
[05:03] <tarzeau> Marcvs: out of sync on the monitor?
[05:03] <Jimmey> fragger56, did you try those?
[05:03] <Marcvs> tarzeu how do you mean
[05:03] <teamwork> sick of typing sudo all the time?  enter an alias in your .bashrc file, and forget about sudo!
[05:03] <Marcvs> it loads the start page for about a second then goes black
[05:03] <Lin> teamwork: use sudo bash
[05:04] <tarzeau> Lin: YUCK
[05:04] <Lin> tarzeau: why yuck?
[05:04] <Dr_willis> 'sudo -s' :) no need to sudo bash
[05:04] <tarzeau> Lin: just sudo su when you need it. sudo bash is BAD BAD BAD
[05:04] <Lin> Dr_willis: i didn 't knew
[05:04] <Dr_willis> lin :)
[05:04] <fragger56> jimmey: yea, but i think the reason its messing up is my fstab file. also how do i save in nano? is it the writeout command?
[05:04] <Lin> tarzeau: cause you dont need to create a password to root user and can control who can/cannot turn root
[05:05] <RodGo> hey i just restarted and the problem persists
[05:05] <Jimmey> fragger56, CTRL + X - It prompts
[05:05] <fragger56> ic
[05:05] <RodGo> i still cant change my screen resolution
[05:05] <neverblue> my "mini., max., and close" buttons are not in the top right hand corner, they are about an inch from it, is it maybe a theme i have loaded, and reloading it may fix it, or does someone else have an idea of what it is?
[05:05] <Lin> tarzeau: sudo su?
[05:05] <fragger56> jimmey: this is craptastic, its telling the FS is read-only
[05:05] <skript> just installed feisty... i see that it mounts by default NTFS partitions with RW privilages... is this based on ntfs-3g ?
[05:05] <tarzeau> Lin: like sudo bash but with the right shell :)
[05:05] <teamwork> neverblue, using emerald?
[05:05] <Jimmey> fragger56, are you using "sudo"?
[05:05] <novato_br> what's it the packet for http://www.cjb.net/images.html?2abc0.png ?
[05:05] <Lin> tarzeau: I didn~t new too.
[05:05] <RodGo> Dr_willis: i stil have the same screen resolution :(
[05:05] <neverblue> teamwork, nope
[05:05] <Dr_willis> lin thats also not really needed. :) but theres lots of little differanc3es.
[05:06] <ling> RodGo: try adding something like  Modeline "1280x1024_75.00"  138.54  1280 1368 1504 1728  1024 1025 1028 1069  -HSync +Vsync - or similar for your prefered resolution
[05:06] <Lin> tarzeau: yeah.. it loads the environment variable
[05:06] <Dr_willis> RodGo,  ive no longer have any ati cards. so there may be other fix's needed.
[05:06] <burepe2> stefg: You are right. The repos are edgy, But if it is already broken it cant hurt to try the update. When I start up I get this error.  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off (initramfs) But there is a command line. can I update from there even though the system wont mount?
[05:06] <ling> RodGo: in the Monitor section
[05:06] <RodGo> aight letme c
[05:06] <Dr_willis> lin i tend to use the 'sux' command :)
[05:06] <dust_t> i installed gsynaptics to configure my touchpad. But I keep getting an error about adding SHMConfig. Where do I add that?
[05:06] <teamwork> neverblue, well if you were using emerald (with beryl) then we could modify that easily.  not sure how to do that for metacity.
[05:06] <fragger56> jimmey: yup, heck in terminal i got root@fragger56
[05:06] <Lin> Dr_willis: Lol
[05:06] <Dr_willis> dust_t,  thats a optiuon in the xorg.conf file
[05:06] <neverblue> well, its happened since these last two days of updates
[05:07] <godzirra> Ok, does anyone have experience with wireless on laptops?  For some reason my Network Manager Applet doesn't show the wireless at all...  My wireless works fine, but I have no wireless option in the manager.
[05:07] <neverblue> but nothing was updated relating to metacity
[05:07] <XnX17> i think my partition dosent like me lol
[05:07] <Jimmey> fragger56, maybe try editing these files from a liveCD, if you have one - Or boot into recovery mode. Is a re-install feasible?
[05:07] <fragger56> jimmey: btw i am in the alt boot thingy, the recovery mode thats accessible via grub
[05:07] <teamwork> neverblue, is it only that one theme that does that?
[05:07] <novato_br> how can I remove this error: http://www.cjb.net/images.html?2abc0.png ?
[05:07] <neverblue> teamwork, no idea
[05:07] <neverblue> lets see what happens :)
[05:07] <Dr_willis> godzirra,  wireless problems can vary greatly - i advbise finding out what wirless card/chipset ya got and checking the ubuntu forums/wireless wiki pages
[05:07] <dust_t> Dr_willis, where exactly in that file ? I added it in InputDevice but it still says the same thing.
[05:07] <stefg> burepe2: no... that's jsut a very basic rescue shell. the upgrade went terribly haywire. Gte from the disk *now* what's important, repartition to a sane layout and start from scratch. You'll end up with a broken system if you try to upgrade now
[05:07] <Jimmey> fragger56, you're one step ahead, then ;-)
[05:08] <neverblue> great
[05:08] <Marcvs> novato_ what gopu do ya have?
[05:08] <Dr_willis> dust_t,  its in its own option section at the very end of the file as i recall..
[05:08] <neverblue> lost all my icons in my menus
[05:08] <neverblue> and I cannot start metacity
[05:08] <fragger56> jimmey: ill try recovery mode from the alt-install cd i have, i could do a reinstall but i'd rather not, unless i know that my files will still be there
[05:08] <novato_br> Marcvs, Geforce 6150
[05:08] <novato_br> Marcvs, Geforce nvidia 6150
[05:08] <XnX17> /server snape.p2pchat.net
[05:08] <dust_t> godzirra, You need to check Roaming Profile for Wireless
[05:08] <Marcvs> it maybe that its too weak
[05:08] <Marcvs> i cant get into ubuntu atm
[05:08] <Jimmey> fragger56, probably not. Is there anyway you could make backups? How much disk space is your files taking up now?
[05:09] <Marcvs> i get black screen as soon as i go anwhere near startin it
[05:09] <teamwork> neverblue, what errors (exactly) are you getting?
[05:09] <neverblue> errors?
[05:09] <teamwork> error messages?
[05:09] <fragger56> jimmey: not much, i just DL'd the normal live cd install and will try that in a sec
[05:09] <not_a_k> is there a way to force all files created in a directory to be group writable? without setting a umask for each user who will create a file there?
[05:09] <neverblue> hmm
[05:09] <neverblue> lots of things (strange) are happening
[05:09] <stefg> burepe2: or have a backup from the time before the upgrade failed?
[05:09] <novato_br> What's the pack about OpenGL python bindings ?
[05:09] <fragger56> jimmey: do i have to do anything special to access my HDD from the recovery console on my install disc?
[05:10] <burepe2> stefg, honestly I am not sure exactly what I need. I have the server and drupal which uses mysql. What do I need to copy to make sure I have everything?
[05:10] <dust_t> godzirra, Click on System | Preferences | Network. For wireless click on Properties and enable Roaming Mode. Then Network Manager will show wireless otherwise itwill show Manual Config.
[05:10] <dario> giorno
[05:10] <dario> c' qualche italiano?
[05:10] <CheshireViking> !it | dario
[05:10] <neverblue> opening Themes: "The default theme schemas could not be found on your system.  This means that you probably do not have metacity installed, or that your gconf is configured incorrectly."
[05:10] <ubotu> dario: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:10] <burepe2> stefg: I dont have a backup
[05:10] <hwilde> not_a_k, recursively change the permissions to add group write permission:   chmod -R g+w [directory]
[05:10] <dario> tnx
[05:10] <Matic`Makovec> Hey! How could I remove anything that's eft from gij or current java installed so I can install sun JRE?
[05:10] <not_a_k> hwilde: i want the files to already be group writable on creation
[05:10] <stefg> burepe2: just do complete backup so you have everything. you can later see what you need out of it
[05:11] <Jimmey> dario, buona serata..
[05:11] <Jimmey> !it
[05:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:11] <Marcvs> knay here goes nothing; gonna burn another copy of the cd from a fresh dl and try again
[05:11] <someperson> I have a question, I can only use Dapper, but can I install the theme from Feisty?
[05:11] <Dr_willis> Matic`Makovec,  i just install the  sun-java6-jre  package and it handles all that.
[05:11] <not_a_k> hwilde: if bob and sue are members of the same group. and have group write access to a folder, i want to ensure that the files they create are also group writable. without forcing them to do a chmod everytime
[05:11] <neverblue> metacity is installed
[05:11] <Marcvs> nero isok for burning right
[05:11] <Jimmey> someperson, why can you only use dapper?
[05:12] <neverblue> Marcvs, burning what?
[05:12] <Matic`Makovec> Dr_willis, oh, great. Thanks
[05:12] <Marcvs> cds
[05:12] <burepe2> stefg: thanks for all your help. damn, I wish I hadnt upgraded
[05:12] <someperson> Feisty has a problem not allowing me to install it
[05:12] <Marcvs> namely the ubuntu image
[05:12] <someperson> on certain computers
[05:12] <neverblue> Marcvs, what are you putting on the image I mean
[05:12] <Marcvs> just the ubuntu iso
[05:12] <neverblue> are you a winblows user?
[05:12] <Solarion> neverblue: isn't just about everybody?
[05:12] <neverblue> Solarion, no
[05:12] <stefg> burepe2: and it's a chance to get things right now. you should have , say, a 10 Gig partion for ubuntu, and the rest on another partition which holds the drupal stuff
[05:12] <Marcvs> i use mac, pc and nix - unfortuneatly i have to use winblows
[05:13] <neverblue> Marcvs, thats too bad, Nero should be fine
[05:13] <someperson> is there some way to change the theme to the one from Feisty?
[05:13] <Marcvs> k, burning
[05:13] <neverblue> Vista belongs in a VM machine, thats about it
[05:13] <godzirra> dust_t: For some reason I don't have a system -> preferences -> network anymore.  Just network proxy.
[05:13] <Matic`Makovec> Dr_willis, it says 0 removed. This makes me wonder
[05:13] <Marcvs> dont know of any advanced model prorams for nix
[05:13] <JiffaMaafan> ubuntu sucks, Vista tools
[05:13] <dust_t> Dr_willis, I added an entry in the xorg.conf file. Do I need to reboot for it to work ?
[05:13] <Jimmey> Marcvs, what kind of model programs?
[05:14] <dust_t> godzirra, Sorry
[05:14] <Dr_willis> Matic`Makovec,  it dosent HAVE to remove the other stuff. it just sets up to use the sun stuff by default
[05:14] <neverblue> godzirra, right click your menu and edit --> check to see that network is checked
[05:14] <Marcvs> things like 3ds max, photoshop (for texturning) etc
[05:14] <burepe2> stefg: My hard disk was used as a second disk in an old comp and it has always been hdc. Should I change that? How do I do that?
[05:14] <Jimmey> Marcvs, Blender, and The Gimp
[05:14] <Dr_willis> dust_t,  you must restart the X server. not really the same as a reboot.
[05:14] <dust_t> godzirra, System  |  Administration | Network
[05:14] <teamwork> neverblue, so is your desktop borked?
[05:14] <godzirra> Got it, thank you :)
[05:14] <neverblue> teamwork, not entirely
[05:14] <Jimmey> Marcvs, if you're serious about that kind of thing, there's Ubuntu Studio
[05:14] <Dr_willis> dust_t,  log out. and use 'alt-ctrl-backspace'
[05:14] <Marcvs> bit crude really - i cant do really advanced stuff in blender
[05:14] <frolle> How do i get rigths to a mounted device?
[05:14] <neverblue> teamwork, but its not acting normal
[05:14] <Jimmey> Marcvs, why not?
[05:14] <Matic`Makovec> Oh, okay
[05:14] <Matic`Makovec> I hope it will
[05:14] <someperson> so is there a way to change the theme?
[05:14] <dust_t> Dr_willis, thank you very much, will just try it.
[05:14] <Jimmey> Marcvs, what kind of stuff?
[05:15] <Marcvs> i.e. some of the models i was working on have > 9000 polygons - exporting them
[05:15] <Matic`Makovec> How can I check if it takes as a default, Dr_willis ?
[05:15] <Marcvs> they are exported is .cas files
[05:15] <Dr_willis> Matic`Makovec,  try java -version
[05:15] <Jimmey> Marcvs, there are import scripts for Blender, I'm sure it can be done
[05:15] <neverblue> teamwork, my backspace/space are not repeating when held down, my menu icons are missing, not able to adjust my themes, meatcity is installed
[05:15] <stefg> burepe2: actually its not that important if your bios has no problems with it. you can change it by plugging it to the other IDE connector (should be hda then
[05:15] <Marcvs> probably; i just dont have the time, enegery of ability to write one
[05:15] <teamwork> neverblue, i'd re-install the desktop.
[05:15] <Jimmey> fragger56, sorry - I don't think so
[05:15] <RodGo> hey
[05:15] <RodGo> i have this on my xorg.conf file
[05:15] <RodGo> Section "Device"
[05:15] <RodGo> 	Identifier	"Generic Video Card"
[05:15] <Jimmey> Marcvs, they've already been written
[05:15] <RodGo> 	Driver		"fglrx"
[05:15] <RodGo> 	Busid		"PCI:3:0:0"
[05:15] <RodGo> EndSection
[05:15] <teamwork> but that's just me. :)
[05:15] <RodGo> that means that my video card is not installed right?
[05:15] <neverblue> teamwork, and the above stated issue, my min./max./close are in a strange spot
[05:16] <Marcvs> there isnt a .CAS one im sure
[05:16] <neverblue> so just sudo ubuntu-desktop from cli?
[05:16] <neverblue> i mean
[05:16] <Dr_willis> RodGo,  it means it gave it a generic name. its using the fglrx driver.. so its set up rght it seems
[05:16] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> where can i find a good sources.lst for fiesty ?
[05:16] <neverblue> sudo aptitude
[05:16] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[05:16] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:16] <fragger56> jimmey: seems recovery mode from alt-install disc wont work either, gonna try with the livecd now, also how would i copy files from terminal to say, a flashdisk?
[05:16] <Jimmey> Marcvs, no, but you can convert between .cas, surely
[05:16] <Marcvs> anyway - ill brb just gonna have another craxk with a new CD - im not holding my bvreath for it to work tho
[05:16] <Marcvs> its difficult to as its an encrypted format
[05:16] <Matic`Makovec> Dr_willis, here it is. After installing, I get root@kista:~# java -version
[05:16] <Matic`Makovec> java version "1.4.2"
[05:17] <Dr_willis> Matic`Makovec,  read ALL it said.. not just the ##
[05:17] <godzirra> Ok, well I have the wireless network options now.  Its just not connecting :)
[05:17] <Jimmey> fragger56, your flashdisk will be mounted in /media/ somewhere - My usb disk is in /media/usbdisk, so to copy files, use "cp" command
[05:17] <teamwork> neverblue, i'd purge the ubuntu-desktop and then re-install it.  backup your data first though.
[05:17] <neverblue> ha
[05:17] <neverblue> no need to backup :)
[05:17] <fragger56> ic
[05:17] <fragger56> thanks
[05:17] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> Dr_willis ,thanks :
[05:17] <Jimmey> fragger56, something like "cp -r /original/folder /media/usbdisk"
[05:17] <neverblue> nothing on here I cannot do without
[05:17] <teamwork> neverblue, use aptitude though, instead of apt-get.
[05:17] <rabby_> is there a ubuntu ditribution that is recommended for servers?
[05:18] <neverblue> so I have to close X to purge/reinstall?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> !java
[05:18] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[05:18] <Matic`Makovec> Dr_willis, gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-14ubuntu7)
[05:18] <Jimmey> Marcvs, what program are you using currently? 3DSMAX?
[05:18] <corecode_> hey
[05:18] <neverblue> i always do teamwork :)
[05:18] <Marcvs> 3ds max and maya
[05:18] <RodGo> Dr_willis: ttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24440/
[05:18] <teamwork> rabby_, you can install the "server" task from within any Ubuntu flavor.
[05:18] <neverblue> wine runs windows apps
[05:18] <RodGo> Dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24440/
[05:18] <Jimmey> Marcvs, can you save as other formats?
[05:18] <someperson> is there some way I can get the feisty theme on dapper since I can't install Feisty on my computer due to a bug
[05:18] <CheshireViking> !server | rabby_
[05:18] <ubotu> rabby_: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[05:18] <Marcvs> apart from .cas and max not really
[05:18] <corecode_> windowmaker seems totally strange in 7.04:  no key combinations work (e.g. no alt-tab).  can somebody reproduce this?
[05:18] <rabby_> thx, sounds interesting!
[05:18] <Dr_willis> apt-get install sun-java6-jre --> and version gives me ---> java version "1.6.0"  Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105)
[05:19] <tarzeau> corecode_: yes that's normal
[05:19] <Marcvs> yah but then id be kinda breaking the point of using windows to convert it anyway - and brb
[05:19] <tarzeau> corecode_: i made that :)
[05:19] <RodGo> i have that on my xorg.conf file
[05:19] <tarzeau> corecode_: so the key combinations for gnustep work. you can fix it in WPrefs
[05:19] <corecode_> tarzeau: how do i go back to original?
[05:19] <tarzeau> corecode_: in WPrefs
[05:19] <corecode_> tarzeau: how do i enable alt+tab?  i didn't find an entry
[05:19] <Matic`Makovec> Dr_willis, lucky you :) I'll try more, thanks for your time!
[05:19] <RodGo> is that normal? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24440/
[05:19] <tarzeau> corecode_: the 5th icon from right
[05:19] <corecode_> tarzeau: what's gnustep?