[12:21] <yommb> If you go Linux , there is a learning curve involved , one must accept that , or decide that it isn't worth one's time !
[12:21] <Yodude> it shouldn't be that way
[12:21] <norty> ok whats that mean
[12:21] <unop> norty,  does ~/Desktop/folder represent a mount point? or is it a link to one?
[12:21] <mynick> Yodude, i missed ethe original question ... what happened again?
[12:21] <norty> i dunno, i just created that folder and executed the mount to that folder
[12:21] <unop> norty,  it means the filesystem that ~/Desktop/folder resides on was mounted as a read-only filesystem
[12:22] <unop> norty,  did you use mount from the command line ?
[12:22] <norty> yea
[12:22] <norty> i did
[12:22] <mynick> well with any change there is a learning curve
[12:22] <unop> norty, first off, is this drive a NTFS drive?
[12:22] <mynick> you know windows users are a funny bunch, i really hate them
[12:22] <norty> yea
[12:22] <norty> it is
[12:22] <bouter> unop    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5199/
[12:22] <yommb> lol
[12:22] <Yodude> mynick: after downloading nvidia-glx from the repository it instaslled and corrupted X
[12:23] <norty> the one im trying to get access to is NTFS yes
[12:23] <Yodude> hey i mounted my linux root partition
[12:23] <unop> norty,  heh -- no wonder .. you need to install NTFS write support
[12:23] <mynick> they spend 15 years learning how to click on a crapy and poorly thought out os, and expect to pickup a world class os like linux in 15 minutes
[12:23] <unop> !ntfs-3g | norty
[12:23] <ubotu> norty: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:23] <Yodude> so how do i repair this
[12:23] <yommb> Yodude : did you run nvidia-xconfig ?
[12:23] <mynick> sometimes i just feel like they should stay on windows, thats the reason windows has problems with viruses and spyware
[12:23] <ClayDragon> mynick lol
[12:23] <mynick> its their damne dusers
[12:23] <Yodude> yomnb: it gave me an error
[12:23] <norty> so i install that and then i can access those folders?
[12:23] <norty> files*
[12:23] <bouter> unop    thank you for your help  but I have to go now     it will be for another time
[12:23] <yommb> then it seems your driver isnt installed correctly
[12:23] <mynick> Yodude, oh its not a corruption ... either a config error or something wrong with driver
[12:24] <mynick> Yodude, x doesn't boot right, it brings up a blue or red screen right?
[12:24] <Yodude> yes it's a confiog error
[12:24] <busfahrer`> Excuse me, when I try to mount an ntfs partition from another harddrive, but I get permission denied because *after* mounting the containging directory has chmod 700. the command I used is sudo mount -r -o users /dev/sdb1 /mnt/foo. any ideas?
[12:24] <Dils> Do I need to take LPI 101, 102  to b e able to write Ubuntu Exam??
[12:24] <Yodude> when i boot i get the message that X couldn't start
[12:24] <unop> bouter,  heres the correction - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5200/
[12:24] <yommb> mynick , if nvidia-xcinfig gives him an error i think its a driver issue
[12:24] <mynick> i would say so
[12:24] <mynick> Yodude, uninstall it and do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose the vesa driver
[12:25] <mynick> that should get you a working desktop
[12:25] <Dils> Do I need to take LPI 101, 102 to be able to write Ubuntu Exam??
[12:25] <norty> it says that driver only works with 32 bit distros, i have an amd 64, will it still work?
[12:25] <mynick> then you can try it again and maybe research your hardware specs and your version ofubuntu a bit
[12:25] <yommb> Yodude : edit your xorg.conf file & change the driver to "nv" or "vesa"  ! see what that does
[12:25] <mynick> chances are someone has had the same issue
[12:25] <`ph8> unop: yeh similar errors
[12:25] <mynick> oh do what yommb said first
[12:25] <Yodude> man wait
[12:25] <Yodude> i'm on liveCD now remember
[12:25] <yommb> mynick : we're on the samez level :)
[12:25] <mynick> Yodude, make SURE to backup your xorg.conf file first
[12:25] <Yodude> i can't uninstall i'm not using the installed version!
[12:25] <mynick> what?
[12:25] <unop> norty,  errm, i'm not sure if a 64 bit version exists -- check the ntfs-3g homepage
[12:26] <mynick> Yodude, oh boot into the installed version
[12:26] <unop> `ph8,  did you do anything recently to have caused this?
[12:26] <ClayDragon> Yodude: change the xorg.conf on your root partition and then reboot
[12:26] <mynick> just log in using the terminal session that comes up after you click through the xserver error messages
[12:26] <`ph8> feisty upgrade :p
[12:26] <Yodude> what changes do i add>?
[12:26] <yommb> lol ; Yodude , you come here complaining about how bad the OS is , but obviously you don't know jack what you are doing ...
[12:26] <Yodude> no actually i'm pretty good in tech i'm just new to linux
[12:27] <mynick> lol
[12:27] <mynick> being good in tech means nothing bro
[12:27] <unop> `ph8, ahh .. explains it -- it's still pre-release software eh, so you expect this -- but do ask in #ubuntu+1 .. thats where feisty support goes :)
[12:27] <Yodude> tell me: if i didn't know good how could i have installed it in the first place?
[12:27] <Balachmar> yes but really not knowing that you are in a bootable version....
[12:27] <mynick> being good in tech usually translates to i know how to install windows
[12:27] <bouter> unop   it' s working either     but I'm out of time now   thank you very much   maybe some other time
[12:27] <mynick> which btw counts for nothing
[12:27] <Balachmar> Even I wasn't THAT bad at first :)
[12:27] <mynick> once you learn linux you will look back and shake your head
[12:27] <yommb> ok let stop bashing now :)
[12:27] <mynick> okay
[12:27] <mynick> :)
[12:27] <Balachmar> But trust me it is worth your time
[12:27] <Yodude> just tell me what do i have to add to the xconfifg
[12:27] <ClayDragon> Yodude: look for a section in the xorg.conf called "Device"
[12:28] <norty> unop, all i want to do is be able to copy the files from ~/Desktop/folder to a folder in linux so that I can download it to my ipod so that i dont lose my data when i try to reinstall everything, can i do that without installing this driver?
[12:28] <Balachmar> first boot into the installed version
[12:28] <Yodude> k wait
[12:28] <mynick> he did, change the 'nv' to 'nvidia' in your xorg.conf file
[12:28] <Balachmar> Good luck Yodude!
[12:28] <mynick> you can find it in /etc/X11/ dir
[12:28] <Yodude> hey wait
[12:28] <ClayDragon> Yodude: there's a line in the section beginning with "Driver"
[12:28] <mynick> MAKE SURE YOU BACK IT UP first
[12:28] <Yodude> i have two backups of the X file
[12:28] <Yodude> can i just replace them with the corrupt one?
[12:28] <ClayDragon> Yodude: ok then try to restore a backup first
[12:28] <mynick> cool, i just don't want you to blame me for everything like you are blaming the os
[12:29] <rogierwilco> greetings
[12:29] <mynick> hellow
[12:29] <rogierwilco> :)
[12:29] <yommb> yodude : there are detailed ; very clearly laid out instructions on the NVIDIA site on how to install the driver , also , mynick suggestion about the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is a good idea to fix X related problems
[12:29] <mynick> yeah, thats the thing about windows users
[12:29] <unop> norty,  sure, reading from the partition is definitely possible -- just no write operations -- you can do something like -- sudo sh -c "cd ~/Desktop; mkdir folder2; cp -R folder folder2"
[12:29] <mynick> they haven't learned how to research yet :)
[12:30] <yommb> installing the nvidia driver manually takes about 5 minutes
[12:30] <mynick> it turns out to actually be a skill
[12:30] <mynick> heh
[12:30] <norty> what do you mean by write?
[12:30] <Yodude> wait
[12:30] <norty> right now all im trying to do is get these files off my computer, back them up, and reformat my whole hd
[12:30] <mynick> Yodude, k. i'm waiting
[12:30] <Yodude> is the x config file names xserver-xorg.config ?
[12:30] <mynick> wait, what am i waiting for?
[12:30] <mynick> no
[12:30] <Yodude> is this it?
[12:30] <ClayDragon> Yodude: that looks like a backup
[12:30] <mynick> xorg.config
[12:31] <yommb> Yodude : if you like i'll walk you through the process of installing the nvidia driver ..
[12:31] <ClayDragon> xorg.conf @mynick :-P
[12:31] <unop> norty,  by write operations i mean .. create new files, edit files, change permissions, etc -- if you run that command -- you should have a copy of that folder _on your desktop_
[12:31] <Yodude> i didn't find that i only found "xserver-xorg.config
[12:31] <yommb> yodude : its called xorg.conf  located at : /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:31] <norty> am i going tobe able to see the files? right now i cant
[12:31] <kenthomson> mynick, what if i told you i am back?
[12:31] <Yodude> yes
[12:32] <kenthomson> mynick, xcompmgr was the culprit!
[12:32] <Yodude> i wonder why search didn't find it
[12:32] <unop> norty,  the copy being on a different filesystem -- so it doesnt have any restrictions the current one has
[12:32] <Yodude> i'll replace it
[12:32] <ClayDragon> i gotta go, good luck to you, Yodude
[12:32] <kenthomson> mynick, which has been put in the startup script to run the transparent background of the goddamned kiba-dock
[12:32] <norty> all i want to do is see the files, be able to select some, put them on my ipod
[12:32] <kenthomson> :)
[12:32] <norty> how can I do that if i cant see them?
[12:32] <unop> norty,  ok wait up
[12:32] <norty> ok
[12:32] <norty> :]
[12:32] <mynick> kenthomson, well if your back i take back everything i said about you behind your back
[12:32] <mynick> *cough*
[12:32] <mynick> hahaha!
[12:32] <norty> sorry im just extremely frustrated and tired
[12:33] <mynick> j/k!
[12:33] <yommb> yodude : back it up , and then do : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg !
[12:33] <Yodude> man it said i do not have permission to write to the folder
[12:33] <norty> and i dont want to lose 100 gigs of my data
[12:33] <kenthomson> mynick, :)
[12:33] <mynick> kenthomson, well very cool
[12:33] <unop> norty,  mkdir folder2; sudo sh -c "cd ~/Desktop; cp -R folder folder2"
[12:33] <yommb> yodude : u must be su ( use sudo )
[12:33] <Yodude> i think i'll do what you said yomnb
[12:33] <mynick> kenthomson, look, you are using a VERY VERY powerfull os
[12:33] <mynick> kenthomson, this environment is about freedome.  you have access to everything.
[12:33] <hoky> have i ask
[12:33] <norty> what will that do
[12:33] <hoky> >
[12:33] <mynick> you know  that line about freedom right?
[12:33] <mynick> with great freedom comes great responsibility.
[12:33] <unop> norty,  that should have everything the way you want it -- folder2 will contain the files
[12:33] <mynick> *cough*
[12:33] <mynick> i should trademark that
[12:33] <norty> ok
[12:33] <norty> ill try that, brb
[12:34] <kenthomson> mynick, ?
[12:34] <mynick> :) look we are going to be better at some things, they are going to be better at other things
[12:34] <rogierwilco> Yodude, everything in /etc is forbidden regular users
[12:34] <rogierwilco> (to write anyway)
[12:34] <mynick> overall my sales pitch to you is , freedom is important, more important than features.  two, we have way more features, way more power, way more potential than they
[12:34] <hoky> i want the last v of ubuntu 6.10 or 6.6
[12:34] <hoky> ?
[12:34] <mynick> you can have tons and tons of fun here if you like computers
[12:34] <mynick> you can make a nice gramma friendly environment or you can make a powersystem for your self
[12:34] <_rd_> hi, I've lost all the usb devices, how can they be restored without rebooting?
[12:34] <norty> unop do i type it exactly like that, with the ; and stuff in it?
[12:35] <Yodude> i ran the file in gedit using sudo
[12:35] <Yodude> i'm just gonna replace the text in it
[12:35] <unop> norty,  better you copy and paste it in the terminal
[12:35] <kenthomson> mynick, you see i have spent so many hours behind this things (learning so many things that i never wanted to learn, when all i wanted to do was install a plugin.etc), and doing so many configurations and learning so many commands, that now i feel like sticking with this piece of shit which some punk in space christened ubuntu
[12:35] <hoky> ??
[12:35] <mynick> but with freedom comes the potential to mess everything up :) so ya know ... frustration yes but lets just try to frame things a bit, perspective helps
[12:35] <unop> norty,  yes, exactly like that
[12:35] <norty> ok
[12:35] <kenthomson> mynick, ok i am still feeling a bit...alright i am cool now
[12:35] <Yodude> you know this is weir when i opened the file it was empty!
[12:35] <mynick> kenthomson, and thats okay, use windows
[12:35] <norty> should i create folder2 on the desktop?
[12:35] <hoky> which is the last ubuntu 6.10 or 6.06
[12:35] <Yodude> man it must have been so ****ed
[12:36] <hoky> hich is the last ubuntu 6.10 or 6.06?
[12:36] <pbureau> Morning to all
[12:36] <mynick> kenthomson, you the other thing most windows users really forget is you guys have over 15 years of training
[12:36] <rogierwilco> morning pbureau
[12:36] <effie_jayx> hoky, 6.10
[12:36] <hoky> which is the last ubuntu 6.10 or 6.06
[12:36] <pbureau> rogierwilco, 10-4
[12:36] <mynick> kenthomson, as you well know, that is A LOT of training, you can't expect to replace that in 15 minutes ... on something this powerfull
[12:36] <pbureau> lol
[12:36] <hoky> aha
[12:36] <mynick> afterall linux isn't made by fisher price
[12:36] <kenthomson> hoky, 6.10 > 6.06 in terms of numerical values and no software vendors names new versions backwards lest it may run into negative in the future; you know logic helps
[12:36] <rogierwilco> :P
[12:37] <Yodude> i'm gonna restart and see now
[12:37] <mynick> kenthomson, i don't mean to preach actually, you sound like you are interested so i'm trying to round things out thats all
[12:37] <mynick> any questions?
[12:37] <yommb> ok
[12:37] <kenthomson> mynick, NO, Sir!
[12:37] <kenthomson> :)
[12:37] <mynick> kenthomson, oh yeah se thats again your fault :)
[12:37] <mynick> lol
[12:37] <mynick> its actually extremely logical .. ubuntu is release every 6 months
[12:37] <tsalas> morning people
[12:37] <rogierwilco> morning, tsalas
[12:38] <tsalas> anyone feel like helping a first time confused user?
[12:38] <mynick> if you want to know which ubuntu you are running you are running 6th month 06 year release
[12:38] <assasukasse> mynick how can i stop the kernel update? im getting crazy...
[12:38] <mynick> its a lot easier to know what that release means than to go, okay in 2001 i was running ubuntu 1.23.3542.3-mybutt
[12:38] <rogierwilco> tsalas, depends on you question(s)
[12:38] <pbureau> !ask | tsalas
[12:38] <ubotu> tsalas: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:38] <rogierwilco> ;)
[12:38] <mynick> assasukasse, i've never had to blacklist a package ... thats a good qeustion
[12:38] <tsalas> i can't get the max screen res for my monitor
[12:38] <assasukasse> i tried to lock it on synaptic, but doesnt let me
[12:39] <tsalas> and nvidia drivers do not seem to be working at all
[12:39] <norty> urop, i typed that exactly but now its waiting at the terminal with just this: >
[12:39] <kenthomson> mynick, ok coming back to trouble-shooting, you see thats what i have been doing since the past three months trouble shooting all the goddamn packages that i have installed and trying to get some apps to behave properly, instead of getting some work done, but as i am more interested in the process of it, than doing work (anyways who is?) it is ok. But afterall i have to get food on the dinner table, and ubuntu in my computer is seriously hampering eve
[12:39] <kenthomson> rything (it requires so much time to research and configure something that you want to do) instead of the GUI that windows provides :(
[12:39] <mynick> kenthomson, i have no illusions about your experience thus far, you may end up back on vista (god how can you possibly use that? i meaqn really) but do you have any other questions i can answer?
[12:40] <mynick> kenthomson, indeed.  i haven't seen your other issues, i can't judge if your complaints are valid.  i NEVER EVER spend time configuring ubuntu
[12:40] <mynick> for me its install, install packages, done
[12:40] <mynick> i don't really understand what is there to configure
[12:40] <kenthomson> mynick, right i have a question, is there a way i can run xcompmgr, without screwing up that shutdown button in the gnome-panel?
[12:40] <_rd_> morning dudes, something simple: all the usb devices have stopped responding in this box....how can they be restarted without rebooting?
[12:41] <kenthomson> _rd_, quiz master? :)
[12:41] <unop> norty,  hmm, the command is waiting to be complete .. indicates an error -- let's see
[12:41] <mynick> ah that, don't know bro, i don't use that.  is that TRULLY a show stopper?
[12:41] <_rd_> I was getting chroot going and lost all the usb devices!
[12:41] <mynick> how about you config that when you have time?
[12:41] <CrakeHunter> does anyone know how to get dolbydigital working with totem?
[12:41] <pbureau> kenthomson, suggestion (if possible), do Like I do, I work from home, and I need a pc taht can run all the "business needs" can run, and that means I have an XP box for work, but I also grabbed for 25$ a PIII/900MHZ/256RAM and I play around with ubuntu on that  machine.... surprisingly alot less "stressfull"
[12:42] <mynick> pbureau, i did the opposite.
[12:42] <norty> :x
[12:42] <mynick> i one day just switched everything
[12:42] <tsalas> argh im going crazy
[12:42] <mynick> it forced me to learn NOW, instead of taking forever
[12:42] <unop> norty,  mkdir folder2; sudo sh -c "cd /home/$USER/Desktop; cp -R folder folder2"
[12:42] <kenthomson> mynick, i too have switched everything
[12:42] <mynick> in the end i completely dropped windows
[12:42] <unop> norty,  copy and paste as-is
[12:42] <tsalas> WHY wont my max resolution show up in the options????
[12:42] <kenthomson> mynick, but i have often pangs of regrets
[12:42] <mynick> kenthomson, what sort of work do you need to do?
[12:43] <norty> leaving $USER in there?
[12:43] <mynick> kenthomson, well you didn't pay for with, what do you mean you have regrets?
[12:43] <pbureau> mynick,  I dont think you an I work the same jobs...lol I deal with tax clients, I need 1024 bit encryption VPN access ...
[12:43] <mynick> i don't see yo complaining about paying $400 for vista when it borks?
[12:43] <kenthomson> mynick, i have regrets for my stubborness to stick to ubuntu
[12:43] <mynick> pbureau, yep and if you need it sure :)
[12:43] <yodude> mynick: it didn't work
[12:43] <yodude> yomnb: can you tell me your method again?
[12:44] <unop> norty,  yea, leaving $USER in there -- it expands to your current username
[12:44] <yodude> the one about dpkg reconfig?
[12:44] <_rd_> kenthomson not ment to be a quiz! I've restarted dbus and  hal....still nothing.....any suggestions?
[12:44] <norty> ok
[12:44] <norty> brb
[12:44] <tsalas> if anyone is willing to help me setup my nvidia drivers and get the max res. please let me know
[12:44] <mynick> kenthomson, well i donno what to tell you.  i'm helping you for free.  you didn't pay for billions of dollars of software development 'that just works'
[12:44] <mynick> and let me tell you it does if you know what your doing a bit
[12:44] <pbureau> mynick, but... I play on my ubuntu box all the time (installed 5 different wifi cards in it, and learn how to make it work (each require a different way) heck I even wrote a howto for the 43xx wifi cards just recently (hoping to contribute back :)
[12:44] <mynick> kenthomson, why not go back to windows? its perfectly okay
[12:45] <mynick> pbureau, your a better person than i, i just look up the hardware requirements buy stuff that works, plug it in and go
[12:45] <pp|Paul> can anyone help me with a wireless card question?
[12:45] <norty> urop, same thing: >
[12:45] <mynick> kenthomson, you can even drop by and say hi to us nice people :)
[12:45] <mynick> pp|Paul, sure just ask
[12:45] <kenthomson> mynick, you see i am more in favour of screwing up my system-as that serves as a reason for me not working/ thats why i use ubuntu
[12:45] <kenthomson> mynick, :)
[12:45] <yodude> mynick: replacing it didn't work it said again that it is not set up correctly
[12:45] <norty> unop, same thing: >
[12:46] <mynick> lol, well if you keep on hosing it keep on asking i will try to help
[12:46] <pbureau> mynick, so your adapting the hardware to the software... that is the reverse than 99.9999999 of the people do, and I beleive if a program or os is properly configured and supported, it should work with all hardware :)
[12:46] <mackinac> !resolution | tsalas
[12:46] <ubotu> tsalas: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:46] <kenthomson> mynick, no seriously i am in love with all the configuration that is lying there open to be messed around with to crash any evil programs :)
[12:46] <mynick> its cool your giving it a try anyway. i do hope youget work done.
[12:46] <unop> norty,  ok, let's go one by one then
[12:46] <yommb> lol , i wonder if yodude edited his xorg.conf on his LIVE CD , and then rebooted ...
[12:46] <mynick> what kinds of things do you haveto do anyway?
[12:46] <_rd_> can anybody help with restarting the usb devices?
[12:46] <yodude> that's what you told me
[12:46] <unop> norty,  first one - mkdir ~/Desktop/folder
[12:46] <yodude> i replaced it with a backup
[12:46] <kenthomson> mynick, graphics/animation/rendering/movie-editing/audio, that kind of stuff
[12:46] <yodude> then rebooted to the installation
[12:46] <yodude> and got the error again
[12:47] <yommb> yodude : dont reboot , youll lose your settings its a live cd remember
[12:47] <norty> ok
[12:47] <pp|Paul> My usb wireless lan card has been found and installed etc... but I'm trying to connect to a 64bit wep network... I've put in the hex key and attempted to connect (to the right) network.. but as far as I can tell, nothing happens. Any suggestions?
[12:47] <mynick> yodude, oh okay ... so uninstall nvidia drivers next , then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select vesa for your drivers.  that will get you an x session and you can go from there
[12:47] <assasukasse> is there anyone that knows how can i stop a kernel upgrade in edgy
[12:47] <kenthomson> mynick, i am seriously missing all the pro software tools at out development studious now being available on ubuntu
[12:47] <unop> norty,  correction, first one - mkdir ~/Desktop/folder2
[12:47] <mynick> kenthomson, sure, do you do print?
[12:47] <norty> ok
[12:47] <unop> norty,  second one -- sudo cp -Rv ~/Desktop/folder ~/Desktop/folder2
[12:47] <yodude> how do i uninstall nvidia form the command line?
[12:47] <yommb> mynick : won't everything be gone after a reboot >- live cd ??
[12:47] <kenthomson> mynick, no print only computer work, if i worked with print there would be a BIG reason to not use UBUNTU (hint:CMYK)
[12:47] <mynick> kenthomson, for pro 3d we have blender and all the majour 3d apps are available for purchase
[12:48] <norty> ok
[12:48] <norty> -R or -Rv ?
[12:48] <mynick> ah yes then you are in a bit of a doodoo
[12:48] <mynick> gimp doesn't support cmyk but that page layout dealie does
[12:48] <mynick> so you get colour conversion issues *nod*
[12:48] <pbureau> pp|Paul, how do you  know the usb hardware is "seeing" the network ? - try in a terminal window - iwlist  <CARD> scanning (ie: my wifi is ra0 so I use it like so : iwlist ra0 scanning) does it report any wireless networks around you ?
[12:49] <kenthomson> mynick, i tried blender sort-of un-intuitive so i purchased a maya license that serves as something familiar and something of a safe-haven to which i escape to when things like Adobe-premier, 3ds max, sound forge, elastic reality, macromedia flash 8.0 are not in sight :)
[12:49] <mynick> kenthomson, for print you might haveto go back to windows ... but how can you go back to vista, its not like stuff works on vista?
[12:49] <mynick> yeah drop 3dsmax
[12:49] <mynick> why the hell would you use that?
[12:49] <mynick> :)
[12:49] <yodude> mynick: just two questions: since i'm gonna be using a command line:
[12:49] <kenthomson> mynick, i have used that all my life
[12:49] <mynick> lol i'm buggin ya but seriously, max? its more expensive than maya
[12:49] <mynick> yet its a piece of crap
[12:49] <yodude> how o i uninstall nvidia form the c line? and how do i choose vesa as my device?
[12:49] <mynick> yep no adobe on linux ... not sure what hteir plans are
[12:49] <norty> what about the rest unop?
[12:49] <kenthomson> mynick, could we interchange the subjects in your comments to make it sound more sensible?
[12:49] <Uma2> hey, is there a way tp reset all configurations to defualt?
[12:50] <mynick> i run dreamweaver only occasionally and flash in vmware/windows but for that you really should run windows, i don't see them porting any time soon
[12:50] <pp|Paul> pbureau: it found the correct network
[12:50] <unop> norty,  thats it
[12:50] <pp|Paul> Cell 01- Address: .....
[12:50] <kenthomson> yodude, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then find "nvidia", then replace it with "nv"-open-source nvidia drivers or "vesa"
[12:50] <unop> norty,  check the folder now
[12:50] <mynick> kenthomson, you don't have permission to 'interchange subjects'  /chmods kenthompsons mouth to 000
[12:50] <mynick> :)
[12:51] <mynick> no seriously, maya is cheaper and you use max?
[12:51] <mynick> c'mon :)
[12:51] <kenthomson> mynick, ya ya ya
[12:51] <kenthomson> mynick, the interface and the defualts and the years of development support for java itr ROCKS
[12:51] <norty> ok, ill go do that, sorry im running between 2 compuiters in 2 different apartments
[12:51] <norty> !
[12:51] <norty> lol
[12:51] <mynick> kenthomson, okay for your usecase, if i was consulting for you, i would say you have no choice to use windows for now
[12:51] <kenthomson> norty, in-between two different appartments is a bit disturbing are you sure you have the safety rope on?
[12:51] <mynick> if you were doing say desktop publishing you could get away with scribus which is really good
[12:52] <mynick> but you seem to span a larger toolset so i would recommend using windows for work, you might find a workflow that works here but its going to be hard with cmyk support
[12:52] <kenthomson> mynick, in the development-studio we have got no choice but in the free time i enjoy programming java/game programming and so i love to mess with confiugration file which ubuntu allows, so thats what my laptop and homePC run
[12:52] <torerling> Hmm, I wondered if anybody could help me, I'm trying to update my dapper to edgy, but when I've tried the last times my x broke, so I uninstalled my nvidia propiatary drivers, when I try upgrading with update-manager -c I get this error: Failed to fetch http://j.portalier.free.fr/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found, In foreword thanks :)
[12:53] <mynick> we have a decent video editor you can buy, we have a few excellent video editors that are crashy but free, and there are som epro vid editors that you can buy for linux
[12:53] <mynick> for sound editing, theres a great app i forgot the name of that i used to use for multitracking recordings
[12:53] <piglit> oke i have got a simple question .... when i am in a console i need to copy a line witch is 5 line's above the prompt i can do this with the mouse but i dont like the mouse ... how can i select things witch are above the prompt only using a keyboard
[12:53] <torerling> audacity? jokosher?
[12:53] <kenthomson> mynick, i have decided that linux is fit for programming and recreation work, till the graphic companies decide to port their software to it
[12:53] <mynick> so its kinda sorta there but for print ... hard to say
[12:53] <kenthomson> mynick, audacity
[12:53] <mynick> kenthomson, thats not a bad conclusion
[12:54] <mynick> yeah there is another one for multitracking tho
[12:54] <torerling> jokosher mynick ;)
[12:54] <norty> unop, it seems to be going through each file slowly
[12:54] <norty> but when i open folder2, all i see is the 1st folder in there and i cant get into it
[12:54] <unop> piglit,  you need to use something like screen -- or run the command again and pipe it through tail and xclip .. !! | tail -n 5 | xclip
[12:55] <mynick> yodude, ken gave you wrong info, you have no x session and no desktop
[12:55] <mynick> yodude, like i told you 4 times already
[12:55] <kenthomson> mynick, if he doesn;t have X, i didn't know that
[12:55] <mynick> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... go through that its self explanatory
[12:55] <unop> norty,  ok let it finish, we'll get to the permissions then
[12:55] <mynick> at the driver stage select vesa
[12:55] <mynick> i know its confusing and hard but its hard to help if you don't take notes as well
[12:56] <norty> i dont know if it can finish, i had 100 gigs on that partition and my hd is only 160
[12:56] <yodude> ok sorry
[12:56] <norty> and my partition for linux is only 10 gigs
[12:56] <mynick> yodude, no probs i think :)
[12:56] <norty> so will it copy until the 10 gigs fill up?
[12:56] <kenthomson> mynick, bye!
[12:56] <yodude> :)
[12:56] <shafire> !wireless
[12:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:56] <torerling> anyone that can help me upgrading my dapper ? I have problems with it now
[12:57] <mynick> torerling, are you trying to dist-upgrade to edgy?
[12:57] <piglit> thanx
[12:57] <unop> norty, yes, but a few files might be incompletely copied across, and they'll definitely be corrupt if thats the case
[12:57] <mynick> if so don't, you need to reinstall fresh.
[12:57] <mynick> its a known problem that distupgrade fails from dapper to edgy very very very very badly very often
[12:57] <norty> like the last few?
[12:57] <norty> i can just delete them and then recopy them right?
[12:58] <unop> norty,  it's hard to say really which ones.. but yea, probably and mostly the last few
[12:58] <yodude> mynick: could you pass this request to the developpers: can you include a full nvidia driver with the CD please?
[12:58] <yodude> it would SO ease things up
[12:58] <mynick> yodude, we cant really, its not free softwqre, its propreitary
[12:58] <mynick> but
[12:58] <torerling> I tried the graphical way, That I found on ubuntuguide.org, I've tried modding the sources.list and do it in c-line, but My x broke 3 times :P so I'm using the update-manager -c thingy
[12:58] <unop> yodude,  its against debian  and ubuntu policy to include non-free software
[12:58] <mynick> there is some discussion in the next release they might give you the option of choosing a proprietary driver
[12:59] <mynick> it makes it easier but its no good because it doesn't put pressure on the hardwaqre companies to open source their drivers
[12:59] <unop> yodude,  as much as everyone would like nvidia drivers in the distro -- its just not going to happen as long as this policy stands
[12:59] <mynick> i'm hoping it stays
[01:00] <yodude> kk
[01:00] <entr0py> hello
[01:01] <norty> mynick mentioned another way to try to get my data back by making my hd a usb cradle and then using another hd to copy things over... ?
[01:01] <torerling> I tried the graphical way, That I found on ubuntuguide.org, I've tried modding the sources.list and do it in c-line, but My x broke 3 times :P so I'm using the update-manager -c thingy
[01:02] <mynick> norty, yeah i would just recommend that because your not working with live data on the same hd
[01:02] <mynick> norty, another alternative is using norton ghost to image that partition to cds
[01:02] <mynick> norty, another alterantive might be to reinstall windows over top of it self ... it doesnt' erase your data ... at least i don't think, it just moves it aside
[01:03] <unop> mynick,  he mentioned that was 160 gigs or some huge number -- thats a lot of CDs
[01:03] <norty> how many
[01:03] <mynick> ah, norty you have that much actuall data? or maybe just like 10 gigs of data on a large hd in your my docs folder?
[01:04] <mynick> that would be 320 cds if you had all that as data
[01:04] <norty> ive got 100 gigs of data
[01:04] <mynick> but
[01:04] <mynick> thats 200 cds
[01:04] <norty> i need at least 40 of it
[01:04] <unop> norty,  if a CD contains 650/700 MB .. do the math :)
[01:04] <norty> :]
[01:04] <mynick> or a dvd burner if you have one ... dvds are 4 gigs each
[01:04] <torerling> Long time since I've used irc :S
[01:05] <mynick> sacriledge!
[01:05] <norty> i dont
[01:05] <mynick> torerling, how can irc not be part of your life?
[01:05] <mynick> *cough*
[01:05] <norty> unop its done running
[01:05] <norty> now what
[01:05] <unop> norty,  you could borrow a portable drive from a friend or something -- or if the friend has enough space to back your drive up, do that, convert the drive to ext3, copy stuff back, etc
[01:05] <torerling> mynick, hehe, really, I don't know, so how do I make my text red for you?
[01:06] <torerling> like that?  I'll paste my info once more ;) hehe
[01:09] <mynick> what upgrade problem?
[01:09] <mynick> are you dist upgrading from dapper to edgy?
[01:09] <torerling> mynick,  when I try upgrading with update-manager -c I get this error: Failed to fetch http://j.portalier.free.fr/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[01:09] <ardchoille> I need a server/wiki just for this one machine, no public access and it will hold only my personal tutorials. I am thinking apache+mediawiki would be overkill. What else is there?
[01:09] <mynick> well it can't find it
[01:09] <norty> holy fuck that worked
[01:09] <mynick> its not a problem it doesn't exist
[01:09] <norty> !!!!!!
[01:09] <mynick> commen t it out
[01:10] <mynick> unop, dude you deserver a medal
[01:10] <mynick> that wa a hell of a lot of works
[01:10] <mynick> really
[01:10] <ompaul> !language | norty
[01:10] <ubotu> norty: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:10] <norty> :x
[01:10] <mynick> norty you have access to your data?
[01:10] <norty> yeah
[01:10] <pleilo> hello, excuse, i wanna download a game, in the web page say add this adress to the sources.list but when i want to save it say that i cannot do it! why? what can i do?
[01:10] <mynick> norty sweetness.  backup EVERYTHING asap
[01:10] <torerling> mynick, it's a problem, 'cause it makes the upgrade abort :P
[01:10] <unop> :)
[01:10] <mynick> norty, i'm impressed you did this between two separate appartments
[01:10] <mynick> your neighbours must be pleased
[01:10] <mynick> i find that actually quite amusing as a visual
[01:10] <norty> my problem now is i only have a fraction of it since my linux partition is only 10 gigs but the data i need is 100
[01:10] <norty> they are
[01:10] <norty> lol
[01:11] <EarlGrey42> Helo I have just one silly question I cannot google out
[01:11] <norty> so how do I go about deleting things from a partition if i cant see it
[01:11] <mynick> well you have access to it, you want to now LEAVE IT ALONE
[01:11] <EarlGrey42> where can I set more Desktops in Gnome?
[01:11] <mynick> and go buy your self a usb cradle and a nice large hd
[01:11] <norty> i have access to some of it
[01:11] <mynick> plug it in, it will appear as an icon on your desktop
[01:11] <mynick> and COPY all of it asap
[01:11] <unop> norty,  is this the same partition you wanted to write to earler?
[01:11] <arnadelo> pleilo , sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:11] <ardchoille> EarlGrey42: Right click the pager and choose Preferences
[01:11] <norty> what?
[01:11] <epsilon_> i have previously been using breezy as my main os before formatting my system and installing edgy.. i'm just wondering, given a system with a modest 512 mb memory and 1.8 GHz speed, is it normal to have the system act like windows in terms of lagging? I have heard of new graphic innovations used in the new release (of which, fwiw, i noticed nothing), but the computer is unbearably slow... has anyone else noticed any similiar lag?
[01:11] <Tomcat_> pleilo: You need to call the editor with "sudo" to get enough rights.
[01:11] <mynick> norty, don't foget you CANNOT write to ntfs from linux
[01:11] <mynick> just read
[01:11] <mynick> not yet safely anyway
[01:12] <Tomcat_> epsilon_: The "new graphic innovations" will come with feisty, not edgy.
[01:12] <norty> the partition that im trying to get data from is 100 gigs, i copied the data from that partition to my linux one which is 10 gigs, only a few of the files copied
[01:12] <mynick> torerling, comment it out from your sources.list, update and upgrade again
[01:12] <elkbuntu> mynick, op trolling is not a smart thing to do.
[01:12] <norty> how do I go about getting everything?
[01:12] <mynick> torerling, its not an issue, it just doesn't exist
[01:12] <hzw> Is there anybody who can help me get apache to work on localhost after I installed network-manager (and changed some settings /etc/network/interfaces
[01:12] <unop> mynick,  it's not a lot of work come to think about it .. if i were at the comp, it'd be done in a few minutes-- its just this channel for some reason, contorts lag :)
[01:12] <pleilo> arnadelo_ thanks
[01:12] <mynick> elkbuntu, what the hell are you talking about?
[01:12] <arnducky> epsilon_: that sounds wrong but I don't know what you mean by 'unbearably slow' of course
[01:12] <EarlGrey42> ardchoille: Thank!!! I am so stupid :) I have been lookong all over settings and system properties ...
[01:12] <ardchoille> EarlGrey42: :)
[01:12] <arnadelo> pleilo, have a nice day
[01:13] <elkbuntu> mynick, well apparantly we're... what was the word again
[01:13] <torerling> mynick, I'll try ;) (why didn't I think of it *bangs head into keyboard*) alksvdhojkhdsf
[01:13] <unop> norty,  you need some intermediate freespace to hold that 160gigs of data ..
[01:13] <norty> like another hd?
[01:13] <mynick> elkbuntu, well the FACT that you noticed it, CONFIRMS it, now doesn't it?
[01:13] <unop> norty,  yep
[01:13] <norty> ok
[01:13] <mynick> now how about you just ignore me, let me do my job and help people
[01:13] <norty> i cant get that for a while
[01:13] <norty> ummmm
[01:13] <norty> so wait
[01:13] <elkbuntu> mynick, no, it means i flicked over to see you trying to bait us
[01:13] <mynick> and stop policing every goddamned thing
[01:13] <mynick> jesus
[01:13] <arnducky> Edgy runs raises, an lowers windows, responds to input *much* faster than XP MCE on this dual-boot system
[01:13] <Benno> Hey I noticed that during the livecd install it didn't give me an option to set a root password. So how do I go about su'ing, or setting a root password?
[01:13] <mynick> whos baiting? its the truth
[01:14] <ardchoille> mynick: Bye bye
[01:14] <norty> i need to copy the files from the first folder to the new hd
[01:14] <arnducky> (Ubuntu-desktop i.e. gnome)
[01:14] <norty> how do i do that
[01:14] <epsilon_> oh.. well in takes a while to process tasks.. slow mouse movements every now and then, and well, slow internet, but no dns failure issues from what i can see.. it's just a steep drop in performance from breezy... is this normal?
[01:14] <arnducky> ompaul   =o)
[01:14] <Mez> ompaul, you're quicker once again
[01:14] <unop> norty,  if i were you -- i'd continue using this disk for the time being .. and copy files to a temporary space if i need to use them
[01:15] <norty> i can copy them to another computer
[01:15] <arnadelo> Benno you only to need to create an user an a password for him and that password will be the root password
[01:15] <arnducky> Benno: you'll have to edit sudoers I'm afraid
[01:15] <norty> but
[01:15] <unop> Benno,  ubuntu doesnt recommend su -- use sudo -i instead
[01:15] <norty> say the first 10 files out of 100 were copied because of space
[01:15] <norty> i can move those 10 files to another computer
[01:15] <norty> but how do i go about copying the next 90 files to where the first 10 files were
[01:16] <unop> arnadelo,  the first user can sudo -- he's a member of the admin group which sudoers acknowledges
[01:16] <Benno> Alright, cheers mates.
[01:16] <norty> like i copy the first 10, move them to new computer, delete first 10, copy next 10, move them, delete them, copy next 10... etc
[01:16] <unop> norty,  why dont you plug the harddrive in the other computer and copy them across :)
[01:16] <Wooksta> anyone know of a program i can use to make iso images from folders?
[01:16] <norty> i can do that
[01:16] <norty> wait
[01:16] <unop> norty,  this way will be very tiring :)
[01:17] <norty> i know
[01:17] <ardchoille> Wooksta: mkisofs
[01:17] <arnducky> invoking sudo -i will give you a root shell, but you will not be able to actually login as 'root' even from a recovery console.  su root is impossible not just 'not recomended' since there is no root password; it will fail.
[01:17] <unop> norty,  does the other computer have enough space ?
[01:17] <norty> yeah
[01:17] <Wooksta> ardchoille, thanks :)
[01:17] <epsilon_> so, um, anyone? is edgy slowness unheard of?
[01:17] <norty> can i somehow copy the files from the first folder to the other computer or ipod?
[01:18] <unop> arnducky,  actually ubuntu has a little trick up its sleeve for the single user/recovery mode -- root access is enabled there
[01:18] <pbureau> arnducky, well on a stodck box there is a disabled password for root, saying there is no root account is inaccurate
[01:18] <norty> instead of like copying them from the first folder to folder2, copy them from the first folder to new hd in new computer or copy them from first folder to ipod?
[01:18] <unop> norty,  if you can mount the other computers share locally .. then you can copy over directly
[01:18] <torerling> mynick, thanks :) it works now, I tried installing the engage dock some time ago ;) so tht was the problem, again, thanks :)
[01:19] <unop> norty,  what does the other computer run? windows?
[01:19] <norty> yea
[01:19] <CrakeHunter> how do i activate AC3passthrough on my system? im using a audigy 2zs
[01:20] <unop> norty,  ok .. create a writable share on the windows machine -- and mount it locally using smbfs -- then copy from ~/Desktop/folder to that mount point
[01:20] <ardchoille> Wooksta: mkisofs -o filename.iso /path/to/directory
[01:20] <entr0py> hello all
[01:20] <ardchoille> Wooksta: Sorry for the lag
[01:20] <arnducky> pbureau: look at what I actually said (with apologies to unop)
[01:20] <entr0py> does anyone know a good dvd burning app for ubuntu?
[01:20] <Wooksta> ardchoille, npz and thanks again :)
[01:20] <norty> how do i create a writable share
[01:21] <unop> arnducky,  why are you apologising? :)
[01:21] <torerling> entr0py, k3b is a nice one ;)
[01:21] <pleilo> arnadelo: i have another question, i have an nternal video card via technologies, can i use beryl compiz or something like that to see my desktop with all that effects i see in some videos of youtube.com?
[01:21] <entr0py> torer, is it only for kde?
[01:21] <unop> norty,  i think if you share a folder on windows, its automatically set to be writable ..
[01:21] <norty> ok
[01:21] <arnducky> unop you're right about booting to recovery kernel of course
[01:21] <norty> you mean like over a network?
[01:22] <pleilo> i have another question, i have an nternal video card via technologies, can i use beryl compiz or something like that to see my desktop with all that effects i see in some videos of youtube.com?
[01:22] <unop> norty,  in any case, you can mount the c$ share on windows locally .. and that if accessed by the administrator is definitely writable
[01:22] <ompaul> acez, u there?
[01:22] <torerling> entr0py, You can use KDEprograms in gnome with no problem, myself I use gnomebaker, but k3b has more choices,
[01:22] <Jowi> pleilo, no, only intel, nvidia and ati supported atm.
[01:23] <norty> unop is there anyway i can do that copy 10, move 10, delete 10, copy next 10.. etc method?
[01:23] <unop> arnducky,  in the recovery mode, its the same kernel only init is running it in a just different runlevel
[01:23] <arnducky> init 3 or init 1
[01:23] <unop> norty,  errm, i prefer you mount the other machine's share locally -- less error prone
[01:23] <entr0py> torerling, well is gnomebaker better than k3b?
[01:23] <norty> thats more difficult
[01:23] <unop> arnducky,  it'd be 1
[01:24] <unop> norty,  it's a little more work at first .. not difficult -- on the other hand -- the 10by10 approach is going to be more work and could fail
[01:24] <arnducky> unop init 3 is single-user mode with an X-server isn't it (like a failsafe X-Windows or Gnome session)?
[01:24] <ompaul> entr0py, you have files you put them on a cd/dvd both do that, so it is a matter of taste
[01:24] <unop> norty,  but why dont you plug this harddrive into that computer?
[01:25] <torerling> entr0py, It looks better in gnome, and it may be a littlebit faster, 'cause you don't have to start the kdespesific things, but I think k3b is the best actually but, both are good
[01:25] <norty> ok so what do I do, put my hd into this computer?
[01:25] <torerling> entr0py, so like ompaul said it's a matter of taste
[01:25] <entr0py> torerling, thanks for the advice i will look at both
[01:25] <unop> arnducky,  errm, on debian ubuntu -- runlevel 2 is the defaul -- while the other runlevels are almost never used -- but what you say probably holds true for something like redhat/mandrake/fedora, etc
[01:26] <ardchoille> Wooksta: Do you have gnomebaker installed?
[01:26] <torerling> entr0py, good choice, it's like the wm fight, you just have to decide what you like yoursekves ;)
[01:26] <unop> norty,  errm no, take this NTFS drive (mounted at ~/Desktop/folder) over to the remote computer -- plug it in, boot up, copy the files across, etc
[01:27] <norty> wait wait im so confused, right now im on a friends computer
[01:27] <norty> my computer is the one with unbuntu and the data i need and shit
[01:27] <Wooksta> ardchoille, yup i do
[01:27] <norty> so do I take my hd and put it into his computer, or do I take his hd and put it into my computer?
[01:28] <unop> norty, watch the language -- too many kids about :)
[01:28] <arnducky> unop thought three was used for debugging -- used it on Breezy and Dapper with broken X servers -- seemed to allow me bring down rogue X-servers and rollback video drivers
[01:28] <norty> lol what?
[01:28] <unop> norty,  ok, take the NTFS drive with your stuff out from the ubuntu machine .. take it over to your friends machine and plug it in, etc
[01:29] <unop> norty,  4 letter words are forbidden in here :)
[01:29] <arnducky> and I thought init 5 was default (init 6 being reboot)
[01:29] <arnducky> unop, words like NTFS?
[01:29] <arnducky> ;-)
[01:29] <norty> what do you mean my ntfs drive?
[01:29] <norty> i only have 1 hd
[01:29] <assasukasse> hi all, i need to prevent my system to upgrade the kernel, how can i do that
[01:29] <norty> that hd has ntfs partitions and linux partitions
[01:29] <unop> arnducky,  it could be so -- but no, runlevel 2 is default on debian and ubuntu -- if you ran init, you could check the inittab file
[01:29] <jiu> hello, anybody have a TTF (true type font) Devin SemiBold?
[01:29] <Wooksta> ardchoille, can i add files to an existing ISO in some way?
[01:30] <wikignom> hi folks, thanks for answering this newbie question: three weeks ago, I decided trying out knoppix. two weeks ago, i downloaded ubuntu. what's the next step before i can "install"? i guess i need to partition the hard drive, right? (i have never installed an OS before...)
[01:30] <unop> arnducky,  ha ha -- NTFS should be banned in here eventually ..
[01:30] <unop> norty,  ok, in that case, i mean that drive then :p
[01:30] <norty> put my drive into his computer?
[01:30] <norty> ok
[01:30] <unop> norty,  yep, that way :)
[01:30] <norty> then how do I boot into an OS?
[01:31] <norty> hes got xp, ive got xp and linux
[01:31] <unop> norty,  you never done this before?
[01:31] <posticaruss> .
[01:31] <norty> no
[01:31] <arnducky> actually now that gparted has access to ntfsprogs and fusermount on the Live CD, NTFS is not such a bugbear
[01:31] <hayden> !grub
[01:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:32] <Eko_Hermiyanto> a newbie question please
[01:32] <arnducky> certainly not worth buying a Partition Magic license from Symantec for
[01:32] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I have a live cd ubuntu
[01:32] <Eko_Hermiyanto> version 5.10
[01:32] <unop> norty,  make sure you plug in your drive as a slave drive (configure the jumpers for this if it's a non-SATA drive) .. open up his case, plug your hdd in, boot up .. your HDD should be detected in "my computer"
[01:32] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I am using it right now
[01:32] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I love it very much
[01:32] <frogzoo> !enter | Eko_Hermiyanto
[01:32] <ubotu> Eko_Hermiyanto: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:32] <norty> my drive is sata
[01:32] <Eko_Hermiyanto> can I install it in my hard disk?
[01:32] <norty> does sata automatically configure as slave?
[01:33] <frogzoo> Eko_Hermiyanto: not from the 5.10 live disk no - 6.10 yes
[01:33] <unop> norty, ok in thet case, it should just work if you plug your drive in and boot -- but if you find his computer booting your XP .. you need to configure the BIOS to choose his HDD .. the rest is normal
[01:33] <norty> once i plug my hd in, how do I go about copying files using linux from that 160gig partition to one of his partitions?
[01:34] <Eko_Hermiyanto> frogzoo : is it possible for me to install ubuntu directly from the internet?
[01:34] <Eko_Hermiyanto> frogzoo : I love it very much and I want to have it on my computer all the time
[01:34] <unop> norty,  ahh no, his computer will be running his windows XP .. although it will have detected your harddrive and mounted it -- you shoould just be able to access your stuff from within "My Computer"
[01:35] <frogzoo> Eko_Hermiyanto: you need to have an install disk
[01:35] <unop> norty,  i.e. his computer will just think of your harddrive as another of its harddrives
[01:35] <norty> ok..
[01:35] <Eko_Hermiyanto> frogzoo : the install disk is somewhat broken
[01:35] <norty> but how do I get that data from that one partition then?
[01:35] <norty> the partition didnt show up in My Computer when i booted to xp.. why would it for his?
[01:35] <neowolf> is there a way to set the gnome window selector so it uses a fixed bar length, or more reasonable so it doesn't shrink and expand all the time, hard to explan what i mean, but i'm sure other people have noticed it too
[01:35] <neowolf> ?
[01:36] <unop> norty,  open up my computer .. look for your drive .. open it up, select files you want to copy .. go back to my computer.. find a drive with free space .. paste .. simple :)
[01:36] <norty> it should show up?
[01:36] <norty> even if it didnt show up under my My Computer?
[01:37] <Bonez> where can I find the file xorg.conf?
[01:37] <jpjacobs> Bonez, /etc/X11/
[01:37] <unop> norty,  if it's not detected in my computer you could try mounting it from "disk management" .. start - run - diskmgmt.msc
[01:37] <Eko_Hermiyanto> Bonez, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:37] <Bonez> tks
[01:37] <Eko_Hermiyanto> or just find it with...
[01:37] <Eko_Hermiyanto> sudo find /etc -name xorg.conf -print
[01:37] <norty> can I do that on my own computer?
[01:37] <unop> norty,  if it's running windows, sure
[01:38] <norty> ok, ill try brb
[01:38] <unop> norty,  but ideally, windows mounts all drives auto
[01:39] <der_mane> Hello
[01:39] <norty> whats weird is
[01:39] <norty> i mounted drive sda1 in ubuntu
[01:39] <der_mane> I have a problem with the new kernel update (2.6.17-11-generic)
[01:39] <elkbuntu> unop, except ones marked hidden, as for instance, some recovery partitions are
[01:39] <norty> and it showed all the files which were in 2 different partitions
[01:39] <twelvefour> mornin
[01:40] <seravitae> what's an alternative to gnome-terminal that is good? (transparency and stuff) I cant use gnome-terminal because i found a bug in it.
[01:40] <norty> and it copied some of those over
[01:40] <dsfsda> ubuntu linux sux
[01:40] <Eko_Hermiyanto> seravitae : konsole
[01:40] <unop> elkbuntu,  thats usually because they dont use a filesystem that windows recognises
[01:40] <twelvefour> dsfsda thank you :)
[01:40] <norty> so when im in xp, which is in partition one (sda1) it will show c: which is sda1 but not d: which is sda5
[01:40] <Eko_Hermiyanto> seravitae, konsole the terminal emulator of the kde
[01:40] <Eko_Hermiyanto> dsfsda, ubuntu linux is rock
[01:40] <norty> but when i mounted sda1 it copied files from both in linux
[01:40] <norty> so which do i mount in windows?
[01:40] <seravitae> Eko_Hermiyanto: if i install konsole i'd have to install like 50mb of kde libs.
[01:41] <twelvefour> dsfsda slackware or gentoo user right?
[01:41] <elkbuntu> unop, well, my mother's windows xp recovery partition is hidden.. and tagged as such.
[01:41] <unop> norty,  you can mount both in windows :) .. as any drive letter thats freely available
[01:41] <les> 6.10 live cd hangs at boot, have tried pci-noacpi, noapic nolapic etc no luck, any help/suggestions?
[01:42] <dsfsda> hmm
[01:42] <twelvefour> les yeah, inforutnately just eithe give up or try knoppix
[01:42] <dsfsda> ubuntu 6.10 is out?
[01:42] <csg> hello can anybody help me installing my netgear wireless card please
[01:42] <der_mane> My ipw3945 doesn't work since the kernel update.
[01:42] <twelvefour> les sometimes the hardware just isn't supported
[01:42] <les> knoppix 5.1.1 works
[01:42] <unop> elkbuntu,  yea, well, if you used something like the disk management console, you'd probably notice that it doesnt use fat/ntfs (notice i say probably)
[01:42] <Eko_Hermiyanto> seravitae : well, I know only gnome-terminal and konsole which have good support for transparency and such
[01:42] <twelvefour> les probably a driver issue.  where does it stop just out of curiosity?
[01:42] <les> I'm currently running 6.06.1
[01:42] <seravitae> yeah
[01:42] <seravitae> well, it seems the problem also exists with xterm as well
[01:43] <seravitae> i guess i will have to live without a terminal.
[01:43] <les> I get a kernel panic and it just dies
[01:43] <twelvefour> seravitae just curious, what bug have you found in it?
[01:43] <twelvefour> les  ah driver issue almost guaranteed
[01:43] <seravitae> Oh, wait, xterm works. my bad.
[01:43] <dsfsda> ubuntu linux is basically shit
[01:43] <seravitae> twelvefour: actually it's not really a *bug*, but it is a limitation.
[01:43] <twelvefour> les  driver borks and takes down the kernle
[01:43] <unop> !language | dsfsda
[01:43] <ubotu> dsfsda: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:43] <seravitae> I overflowed the integer value for the location of the window or something
[01:43] <twelvefour> dsfsda yey! thanks for sharing
[01:44] <dsfsda> ubotu: stfu fucking ass hole
[01:44] <seravitae> basically i have a triple-xinerama setup here. gnome-terminal freaks out if i open it from another term.
[01:44] <les> whats diff between 6.06 and 6.1
[01:44] <unop> !ops
[01:44] <ubotu> Help!  (FILE)
[01:45] <seravitae> twelvefour: maybe
[01:45] <seravitae> but i have NFI how to fix it.
[01:45] <norty> unop
[01:45] <unop> norty,  yep
[01:45] <norty> i can't mount the correct partition
[01:45] <twelvefour> seravitae :/ yeah thats terrible, sounds like a very cool setup
[01:45] <seravitae> all i know is that xterm works, and gnome-terminal conks out with "The error was 'BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[01:45] <norty> doesnt let me
[01:46] <unop> norty,  is this windows?
[01:46] <norty> yeah
[01:46] <norty> it says the filetype of that partitions is NTFS but its an Unknown Partition
[01:46] <unop> norty,  join #ubuntu-offtopic .. we'll talk there
[01:46] <seravitae> twelvefour, i will probably whinge to gnome-terminal bug site or something, since this triple-head box will be hex-head soon.
[01:46] <seravitae> or find some other nice terminal.
[01:46] <twelvefour> seravitae good idea
[01:47] <twelvefour> oh wow, /me looks up hex
[01:47] <twelvefour> 8 heads?
[01:47] <seravitae> 6
[01:47] <twelvefour> what are you doing on it?
[01:47] <seravitae> i had quadhead 19" lcds
[01:47] <twelvefour> neato
[01:47] <Eko_Hermiyanto> seravitae : but, I am using gnome-terminal and all just fine
[01:47] <Eko_Hermiyanto> there is no bug at all
[01:47] <seravitae> Eko_Hermiyanto:  on a triple-head computer?
[01:47] <twelvefour> twelvefour your mounting two rows of 3 monis?
[01:47] <Eko_Hermiyanto> only in my presario c300 laptop and a desktop system
[01:47] <seravitae> um, im a student, i run a business, i do gfx design, in my spare time i'm a nerd, do development hardware/software, etc.
[01:48] <seravitae> Eko_Hermiyanto:  that doesn't count at all towards my issue
[01:48] <twelvefour> seravitae ah just for fun? nice
[01:48] <Eko_Hermiyanto> seravitae, ohhh ic... sorry
[01:48] <seravitae> twelvefour: haha. blatently, yes :P
[01:48] <ardchoille> I need a server/wiki just for this one machine, no public access and it will hold only my personal tutorials. I am thinking apache+mediawiki would be overkill. What else is there?
[01:48] <seravitae> twelvefour:  some kids spend $1000 on a graphics card. I see no point in that, ergonomics, features, accessories are my thing :)
[01:48] <twelvefour> ardchoille too much choice .. but anything web based is over kill
[01:49] <twelvefour> ardchoille why don't you look at a wiki like app ... there are a few out there
[01:49] <twelvefour> i don't have names of them as i never used them, just passed someone writing something completely useless, like a local wiki app
[01:49] <twelvefour> and lo and behodl you pop up asking for that :)
[01:49] <twelvefour> hehe
[01:49] <melon> any ideas as to why every single video player i use is way over contrast? it's only videos - everything else seems fine - i've searched forums 'n have seen the same problem with no response nor solution..
[01:50] <twelvefour> melon what do you mean overcontrast? like different players even?
[01:50] <frogzoo> ardchoille: maybe plone or zope - maybe overkill still
[01:50] <ardchoille> twelvefour: A wiki-like app? Hmm.. I'll look around for something lile that. Thanks for the suggestion.
[01:50] <twelvefour> melon dif players tend to have their own settings
[01:50] <ardchoille> frogzoo: I'll look into those too :)
[01:50] <twelvefour> melon ohhhh just out of curiosity are you running nvidia drivers?
[01:51] <ompaul> ardchoille, pmwiki pretty much rocks
[01:51] <ompaul> ardchoille, small and easy to work with
[01:51] <melon> well - i didn't think so.. but apparently that's the only connection
[01:51] <ardchoille> ompaul: That it does, but I need apache+php5 for that, right?
[01:51] <ompaul> no
[01:51] <ompaul> sudo apt-get install
[01:51] <albe> hi all
[01:51] <twelvefour> ardchoille hey no problem i'm on a roll today
[01:51] <ompaul> iirc
[01:51] <Bonez> I installed gsynaptics but when I click on the icon in the menu to opent it, it tells me I need to set"SHMConfig" to true in xorg.conf but there is no SHMConfig in xorg.conf. any ideas?
[01:52] <melon> i can only assume that i am.. but even so.. the forums don't offer any solution from what i can tell
[01:52] <twelvefour> melon nvidia has a config app that has some strange settings thta i noticed sometimes affet only vide but its been a long time.  but since you don't run nvidia not an issue
[01:52] <albe> si there someone who is using the keyboard wireless 6000 V2 ?
[01:52] <ardchoille> !pmwiki
[01:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pmwiki - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:52] <twelvefour> melon sorry i don't know, at least someone answered :) good luck
[01:52] <ompaul> hmm
[01:52] <ompaul> sorry
[01:52] <ardchoille> !apache
[01:52] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:52] <melon> at least you've pointed me in a direction..
[01:52] <melon> i'll keep looking
[01:52] <melon> cheers
[01:53] <twelvefour> melon no worries mate, g'luck
[01:53] <twelvefour> next!
[01:54] <ompaul> ardchoille, -- it was so easy even I used it ;-)  http://pmwiki.com/wiki/PmWiki/Requirements
[01:54] <Bonez> anyone know where i can find the file XF86Config?
[01:54] <twelvefour> Bonez we don't use xf86 anyone
[01:54] <twelvefour> we use xorg
[01:54] <twelvefour> its xorg.conf
[01:54] <twelvefour> next!
[01:55] <ompaul> Bonez, there is none you want look in  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:55] <therapy> melon:  put  Option  "SHMConfig"  "on" in your Section InputDevice in your xorg.conf
[01:55] <Bonez> ompaul Im looking for SHMConfig in xorg.conf but its not there
[01:56] <ardchoille> ompaul: Yeah, I used pmwiki for a while, it definitely rocks.
[01:56] <twelvefour> Bonez what are you trying to do anyway?
[01:56] <hayden> do cds get mounted automatically using ubuntu server?
[01:56] <`k> does ubuntu shipit still sending free ubuntu installers?
[01:56] <`k> i still got no reply like 3 months now
[01:56] <Bonez> gsynaptics tells me i need to set SHMConfig to true
[01:57] <twelvefour> hayden good question.  my thinking is yes, i don't think they have different scripts for that
[01:57] <Jowi_n1> hayden, you mean during or after installation?
[01:57] <GreyGhost> `k ,it should still semd .06
[01:57] <Eko_Hermiyanto> gtg
[01:57] <Eko_Hermiyanto> bye bye all
[01:57] <hayden> Jowi_n1, after
[01:57] <twelvefour> Bonez for what to work?
[01:57] <Eko_Hermiyanto> thanks for the help
[01:57] <therapy> melon:  sry was meant for Bonez
[01:57] <Alzi2> Can anyone help me with that? I'm trying to set an application to open on a file with the extension .SMD, but when i do "open with.." it doesn't show up the "always open with this application" thing. Why doesn't it do that?
[01:57] <therapy> Bonez:  put  Option  "SHMConfig"  "on" in your Section InputDevice in your xorg.conf
[01:57] <twelvefour> ah what therapy said ... right
[01:57] <`k> GreyGhost you mean i still need to wait for 6 months?
[01:57] <twelvefour> therapy what is that for?
[01:57] <Bonez> twelvefour its for my touch pad on laptop
[01:57] <Jowi_n1> hayden, no cd's get mounted automatically. you can set it up in gnome though. however, a mountpoint to your cdrom should exist in /etc/fstab
[01:58] <GreyGhost>  `k ,err... u shouldnt... it should come in a few weeks time ...
[01:58] <twelvefour> ah! danke
[01:58] <hayden> Jowi_n1, its a plain ubuntu server install with no GUI
[01:58] <therapy> twelvefour:  not sure... but i found it to be in my xorg.conf an working fine :-)
[01:58] <PwcrLinux> Hello all
[01:58] <Bonez> but I can't even find SHMConfig
[01:58] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux ,hello
[01:58] <twelvefour> Bonez its not in there, you haveto add it like therapy said
[01:58] <Jowi_n1> hayden, so no. no automatic mount as soon as you insert the cd.
[01:58] <psychoid-1> SpookedOut
[01:58] <Bonez> ahhh ic
[01:59] <hayden> Jowi_n1, ok thanks
[01:59] <twelvefour> Jowi_n1 for server?
[01:59] <[ginge] > hi all I was wondering, youknow there's a shortcut key for alt_tab to switch between apps in a current workspace. is there a shortcut key that switches between workspaces?
[01:59] <twelvefour> how come? the scripts should be the same no?
[01:59] <jrib> Alzi2: can right click, first go to "properties", and then the "open with" tab?
[01:59] <Bonez> therapy does it matter where?
[01:59] <seravitae> twelvefour: identified and worked around the bug.
[01:59] <`k> Can someone send me free cd installer of ubuntu?
[01:59] <`k> pls?
[01:59] <frogzoo> giesen: sys -> prefs -> keyboard shortcuts
[01:59] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: I still getting segmentation fault on firefox <IP_ADDRESS> with flashplayer 9 by using extra command in the terminal
[01:59] <twelvefour> `k you mean by mail?
[01:59] <adaptr> [ginge] : ctrl-Alt Left/Right
[01:59] <Bonez> therapy sorry im quite the noob
[01:59] <seravitae> xinerama + nvidia + ARGB/composite = blah. so i just made a sh script that sets an environment variable to disable ARGB for gnometerminal, works fine. :)
[01:59] <`k> twelvefour:yeah =)
[02:00] <jrib> `k: visit shipit.ubuntu.com
[02:00] <[ginge] > <adaptr>: many thanks :D
[02:00] <`k> jrib: i did.i still got no cd here its 3 months now
[02:00] <ardchoille> `k: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[02:00] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux , no idea :( sorry ... has it always been a problem?
[02:00] <`k> jrib:i orderd 1 cd.
[02:00] <andre> hello
[02:00] <twelvefour> what jrib  said
[02:00] <Alzi2> jrib: Nope. no such tab.
[02:00] <GreyGhost> andre ,yes?
[02:00] <Jowi_n1> twelvefour, for any installation. the mountpoint is in /etc/fstab but have the noauto flag
[02:00] <andre> how do I determine what kernle version I have?
[02:00] <twelvefour> `k why not download it and burn it?
[02:00] <twelvefour> its the same thing?
[02:00] <jrib> `k: where are you from?
[02:00] <yacoob> Greetings. Why linux-686 got obsoleted by linux-generic?
[02:00] <GreyGhost> andre ,"uname:
[02:00] <LinuxHelp> Linking question: Does anyone know what library is missing or configuration setting is wrong with http://rafb.net/p/6IwYo725.html ?
[02:00] <Jowi_n1> twelvefour, think gnome uses a udev rule for automounts
[02:01] <`k> jrib:Philippines sir
[02:01] <therapy> in the Section "InputDevice" of your synaptics driver
[02:01] <twelvefour> Jowi_n1 yeah, i didn't realize it changed
[02:01] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: yea, alway problem with a FP 9 and even about:config string of "network.IDN.blacklist_chars" garbled string
[02:01] <`k> twelvefour: 2kbp/s =/ im on dial up
[02:01] <twelvefour> oh wait gnome
[02:01] <twelvefour> i see, makes sense
[02:01] <twelvefour> thanks
[02:01] <therapy> Bonez:  in the Section "InputDevice" of your synaptics driver
[02:02] <andre> GreyGhost: uname returns Linux
[02:02] <LinuxHelp> uname -a
[02:02] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux , tried #firefox ?
[02:02] <GreyGhost> andre ,sorry .. yes as LinuxHelp said uname -a
[02:02] <andre> thanks :)
[02:02] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: in freenode?
[02:02] <therapy> Bonez:  have a look at this link : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=975421
[02:02] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux ,yes
[02:02] <`k> any rich people here who are willing to send free installer of ubuntu please?
[02:02] <jrib> `k: have you tried to contact the phillipines loco team? #ubuntu-ph<EMAIL_ADDRESS>http://ubuntu-ph.org/forum/
[02:02] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: okay
[02:03] <GreyGhost> `k , try asking for one more?
[02:03] <elkbuntu> #ubuntu-ph | `k
[02:03] <`k> jrib:i didnt know that theres a webby for philippine ubuntu.thanks
[02:03] <maxx18> hi guys... how can i stop /var/log/aptitude from ever getting deleted/rotated? i want a permanent record of what i installed.
[02:03] <elkbuntu> jrib, you're too quick, man
[02:03] <Alzi2> jrib: Nope. no such tab.
[02:04] <`k> GreyGhost:i did twice
[02:04] <adaptr> maxx18: /etc/logrotate.(d|conf)
[02:04] <jrib> Alzi2: can you send me this file or is private?
[02:04] <GreyGhost> `k , :( ... i downloaded my 6.10 ...
[02:04] <Bonez> therapy thank you that's what i needed
[02:05] <CrakeHunter> how do i enable ac3 passthrough?
[02:05] <`k> GreyGhost Yo rich sir?send me one
[02:05] <Bonez> i hope
[02:05] <`k> GreyGhost =)
[02:05] <therapy> Bonez:  np
[02:05] <maxx18> adaptr, not sure what to do with that ;)
[02:05] <Alzi2> jrib: Not really private, but.. kind of illegal (it's a rom.....) but my grandma has it so i think it's legal
[02:05] <adaptr> maxx18: that is where you set log rotation rules
[02:05] <GreyGhost> `k ,err.... i'm prbably too far of to send u one... asia ..
[02:05] <adaptr> philippines is not in asia ??
[02:06] <`k> GreyGhost: yeah philippines is in asia
[02:06] <jrib> Alzi2: ok, well you might have to add it to the mime database.  Are you familiar with doing that?
[02:06] <Alzi2> jrib: Nope.
[02:06] <`k> adaptr:it is in asia
[02:06] <GreyGhost>  `k ,and never sent anything outa international from India ...
[02:06] <GreyGhost> adaptr .my bad :(
[02:06] <Alzi2> jrib: Wait.. it's in KDE.. you know that, right?
[02:06] <jrib> Alzi2: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please
[02:07] <GreyGhost> `k ,get someone from phillipines to send it to u?
[02:07] <jrib> Alzi2: oh, no I didn't know it was in kde
[02:07] <GreyGhost> `k ,and i'm not rich...i'm a meddle class guys... who is 16 yrs old :(
[02:07] <maxx18> adaptr, oh ok i see... so what line should i add to /etc/logrotate.conf so that it will never replace the aptitude log....?
[02:07] <Alzi2> jrib: Sorry for the misunderstanding, then.
[02:07] <`k> GreyGhost im 14 either
[02:07] <adaptr> definitely meddle-class then :)
[02:07] <jrib> !defaultapp | Alzi2
[02:07] <ubotu> Alzi2: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[02:07] <psychoid-1> [Free Space] :-[C 148.63/153.38GB] -[Total 148.63/153.38GB]
[02:08] <jrib> Alzi2: does that work?
[02:08] <Alzi2> Yeah, i'm in.
[02:08] <Alzi2> what to do now?
[02:08] <adaptr> maxx18: no.... you should read the logrotate docs to see how to alter the aptitude settings to keep all logs.. not rotating it is silly
[02:09] <guerrillawon> I run Ubuntu 64, with Firefox32 for flash. I've lost sound and tried everything on the forums to try to restore it. Does anyone have any other ideas on how to get sound working again?
[02:09] <maxx18> adaptr: i'm confused... do i need to read the logrotate docs or the aptitude docs?
[02:09] <albe> Someone konws if keyboard wireless 6000 V2 is working with linux?
[02:09] <daniel007> I need help.  I booted my machine this morning (ubuntu 6.10), and for some unknown reason there's a constant loud beep throught out the entire session (starts at the login window, stops when the system is shutting down).  I can mute the pcm channel or the master channel as a work around.  How do I get rid of this?
[02:10] <adaptr> maxx18: which application does what you don't want ? *I* think that's logrotate, but *you* should check to make sure...
[02:10] <jrib> Alzi2: try that konqueror menu that ubotu mentioned
[02:10] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: either 2 of freenode or mozilla server. they're might sleeping right now
[02:10] <andre> would anyone know what the latest nvidia drivers are? like for example is it <IP_ADDRESS>-12~amaranth? I'm on 2.6.17-11
[02:11] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux ,:( ... do u really need Flash 9?
[02:11] <maxx18> adaptr, ok i think i'm getting somewhere.... found a file /etc/logrotate.d/aptitude..... it is set to "rotate 6" "monthly" etc.... i should change something in this file yes?
[02:11] <andre> would anyone know what the latest nvidia drivers are? like for example is it <IP_ADDRESS>-12~amaranth? I'm on 2.6.17-11
[02:12] <GreyGhost> !nvidia | andre
[02:12] <ubotu> andre: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:12] <Alzi2> jrib: Yes, i did, but what to do in that section?
[02:12] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: yea, I wanted to watch a tv news website.
[02:12] <neowolf> er, from nvidia they are 97**
[02:12] <erick> my ge4 mx440 should use 96**
[02:12] <neowolf> will ubutu/gnome ever get the scroll wheel click scoller thing
[02:12] <jrib> Alzi2: I'm not sure, I don't use kde.  If it isn't clear and no one here knows, you might try #kubuntu
[02:13] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux ,the older flash wont do it?
[02:14] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: yes, some tv sites auto detecting, they ask me to use FP 9
[02:14] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux ,how did u install Flash 9 ?
[02:14] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: it's on adobe website
[02:15] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux ,u should have used the ones in the repos ... u in 6.10 rigght?
[02:15] <twelvefour> PwcrLinux did you extractc the gzip file and copy the file sover?
[02:15] <twelvefour> or did you use their install script?
[02:15] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: I am breezy
[02:16] <PwcrLinux> Ops: hang on there.. someone want ask me for versions of my box..
[02:16] <GreyGhost> ahh ... i dont know if its in the breazy repos yet... :(
[02:16] <daniel007> I need help.  I booted my machine this morning (ubuntu 6.10), and for some unknown reason there's a constant loud beep throught out the entire session (starts at the login window, stops when the system is shutting down).  I can mute the pcm channel or the master channel as a work around.  How do I get rid of this?
[02:16] <guerrillawon> albe: I'm searching to see if your keyboard is compatible but I'm coming up with nothing. I'm not sure, and I don't see why it wouldn't work, but you might want to be cautious.
[02:16] <PwcrLinux> done
[02:16] <neowolf> the repo version of flash is 7.0, get the one from http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOW, `tar -xf` and run the install script
[02:17] <PwcrLinux> I had FP 7
[02:17] <PwcrLinux> before upgrade it
[02:17] <twelvefour> PwcrLinux i just don't know what the plugins are compiled against
[02:18] <twelvefour> they might be expecting a particular library that has a specific version number ,and perhaps what its finding is just slightly different enough to cause the crashes
[02:18] <twelvefour> i don't know
[02:18] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: How i can revert back to FP 7?
[02:18] <guerrillawon> I run Ubuntu 64, with Firefox32 for flash. I've lost sound and tried everything on the forums to try to restore it. Does anyone have any other ideas on how to get sound working again?
[02:18] <twelvefour> PwcrLinux oh easy, just delete the fp plugins from /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[02:19] <PwcrLinux> okay
[02:20] <ltk05> I have a silly question. Everytime I logon to ubuntu I'm automatically connected to the web. I'm using a router, so I guess that's the problem. How can I manually disconnect and connect to the internet? Thanks!
[02:20] <Bartek> hi, is there any good broken DVD recovery software for linux ?
[02:20] <twelvefour> ltk05 /syste/admin/networking
[02:20] <twelvefour> turn your network card on and off
[02:21] <Bartek> like when you finish burning data and it is not accessible :/
[02:21] <ltk05> thanks
[02:21] <twelvefour> hey no prob
[02:21] <Jowi_n1> ltk05, set up the connection in the router,
[02:23] <daniel007> psychoid-1: I think my private msg to you is being blocked. (I'm not a registered user)
[02:23] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: Hmm I have one file libunixprintplugin.so
[02:23] <twelvefour> in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins?
[02:23] <twelvefour> at least you should have symlinks in there
[02:23] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: yes
[02:23] <twelvefour> then the plug isnt' installed
[02:24] <twelvefour> install the plugin from the repost ... the non free one
[02:24] <balrok> hello.. i have one computer which is connected over wlan through the internet.. and i have a laptop which is connected through ethernet to the first computer.. i already set up the connection between both computers.. but now i want to get internet on the other pc.. how it works?
[02:24] <con-man> linux>windows
[02:24] <balrok> btw i'm using ubuntu 6.1 with gnoe on both pcs
[02:24] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: let me look in FF browser to find where the plugins located at.
[02:24] <m`kay> hi guys. is there an error in the updates? for the new kernel in dapper will not give new kernel-headers on vmware for the new kernel?!
[02:24] <GuerrillaWon> Except when your flash sound doesn't work con-man!
[02:24] <con-man> lol
[02:24] <twelvefour> PwcrLinux i todl you where its located
[02:24] <GuerrillaWon> gaahhhhh what a pain in the patootie
[02:24] <GuerrillaWon> hah
[02:24] <twelvefour> there isn't anything to look up
[02:25] <twelvefour> do about:plugins to see if its registereing
[02:25] <twelvefour> but its not there so it shouldn't be visible
[02:26] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: Okay I am looking for libflashplayer.so now
[02:26] <MoRpHeUz> hey, any clue about running flumotion on edgy ?
[02:27] <MoRpHeUz> I can't use admin...when it tries to connect it freezes the manager..
[02:29] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: I found in the home/powerwcrulez/.mozilla/plugins
[02:29] <twelvefour> PwcrLinux oh it installed it for your user
[02:29] <twelvefour> delte that
[02:30] <twelvefour> there are two flash files in there infact
[02:30] <twelvefour> one is a .xpm
[02:30] <twelvefour> delete both
[02:30] <twelvefour> then its gone
[02:30] <daniel007> I booted my machine this morning (ubuntu 6.10), and for some unknown reason there's a constant loud beep throught out the entire session (starts at the login window, stops when the system is shutting down).  I can mute the pcm channel or the master channel as a work around.  How do I get rid of this?
[02:30] <twelvefour> you can try installing from repo to see what happens
[02:30] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: I am only one on my lappy, as system admin
[02:30] <garfunkle> Hi all, i've just installed linux last night and told i can come here for help? (i've got most things sorted, but i can't get my second hardrive to show)
[02:30] <twelvefour> daniel007 do you have a mic maybe attached to your sound card?
[02:31] <twelvefour> garfunkle sure just ask
[02:31] <twelvefour> welcome
[02:31] <DirkGently> hi all
[02:31] <daniel007> twelvefour:  I do, but it's turned off.  Haven't used it in months
[02:31] <DirkGently> back again with speedtouch usb probs
[02:31] <GreyGhost> DirkGently ,hello
[02:31] <DirkGently> hi
[02:32] <GreyGhost> !mount | garfunkle
[02:32] <ubotu> garfunkle: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:32] <twelvefour> daniel007 try unplugging it?
[02:32] <GuerrillaWon> Can anyone please try to help me restore sound in flash for firefox32 on my ubuntu 64 bit? I just lost it one day, so I know it works.
[02:32] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: what's xpm?
[02:32] <DirkGently> i am trying to get a thompson speedtouch 330 modem to work with ubuntu
[02:32] <edward_> how can i get my mic working ?
[02:32] <twelvefour> twelvefour mozilla specific file ... if its not in there don't worry about ... infact thats probably why your browser is crashing
[02:33] <twelvefour> if you were to extract the gzip you would see the .so and .xpm
[02:33] <twelvefour> both need to be in that dir
[02:33] <DirkGently> i've been trying to work thru the sites Ive been pointed to...but am getting nowhere
[02:33] <ikonia> DirkGently: do you know if its supported ?
[02:33] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: which filename of the xpm?
[02:33] <DirkGently> it appears to be
[02:33] <twelvefour> PwcrLinux i don't remembver, extract the gzip and see for your self
[02:33] <daniel007> twelvefour:  ok, I've removed the plug.  I still got the constant beep
[02:33] <garfunkle> I don't really understant the help that people gave me, sorry but i am rather new to linux
[02:34] <DirkGently> the isp supplied the modem...they claim to support linux
[02:34] <GuerrillaWon> Hmm actually does anyone know what Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.  You ned to check if that physical bit of kit is supported under Linux. An ISP supporting Linux connections is different to giving out supported hardware
[02:34] <GuerrillaWon> I just got it, 0 bytes
[02:34] <HymnToLife> DirkGently, I know webpages about installing that modem but they're all in French
[02:35] <GuerrillaWon> I thought it was like location or something :P
[02:35] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: I already deleted it from the desktop screen.. I will redownload again then will look into the tar.gz file
[02:35] <GuerrillaWon> Thanks frog.
[02:35] <DirkGently> i do have a translator prog but it wont get it accurate lol
[02:35] <GreyGhost> DirkGently ,that USB right?
[02:35] <DirkGently> yes usb
[02:35] <ikonia> DirkGently: forget everything else, first thing is to check if that hardware is supported
[02:35] <DirkGently> how do i do that?
[02:35] <HymnToLife> DirkGently, you could always try : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/modem_adsl_speedtouch_330_speedtouch_ng
[02:35] <GreyGhost> DirkGently ,job made easy for u then... ;) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128875
[02:35] <ikonia> google for it, check linuxcompatible.com
[02:36] <HymnToLife> ikonia, it is
[02:36] <ikonia> HymnToLife: you sure of that ?
[02:36] <HymnToLife> I have a friend who has one
[02:36] <ikonia> fair enough
[02:36] <shafire> !wireless
[02:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:38] <pbureau> I had a cable modcem that wasnt "compatible to linux" I simply used a router box between the modem and pc and the router did not care what OS I was running and the Modem was onkidorey happy to talk to the router pppoe protocols
[02:38] <DirkGently> ty...another place u have to join to view
[02:38] <sharperguy> how do i write my swap partition (/dev/hdb3) into /etc/fstab, because it dosnt get automounted anymore
[02:38] <ikonia> sharperguy: you don't mount swap
[02:38] <ardchoille> sharperguy: It isn't supposed to be mounted
[02:38] <sharperguy> well activate or whatever you call it
[02:38] <sharperguy> i have to use swapon anyway
[02:39] <ikonia> sharperguy: what happened to the entry in fstab?
[02:39] <daniel007> twelvefour:  should I reinstall alsa?
[02:39] <sharperguy> I have no idea, I'm only guessing it's wrong since i have to use swapon to get swap
[02:39] <ikonia> sharperguy: show me the line
[02:39] <sharperguy> and since i upgraded to edgy, fstab is unreadable
[02:39] <HymnToLife> sharperguy, pastebin your fstab
[02:39] <ikonia> ahhhhhhhh edgy upgrade
[02:40] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: Okay I got 4 files inside of the FP 9 folder..  flashplayer.xpt, flashplayer-installer, libflashplayer.so and readme.txt
[02:40] <HAL9003> in what file belongs "APT::Cache-Limit"? to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf?
[02:40] <sharperguy> UUID=647de069-4b29-45c3-a9d1-251bb0c956d2 none            swap    sw              0       0
[02:40] <GuerrillaWon> Can someone try to help me restore flash sound for firefox32 on ubuntu 64. I promise I've tried everything and am not just being lazy. Myabe send me in the right direction?
[02:41] <ikonia> sharperguy: do a "blkid"
[02:41] <ikonia> see what the uuid is of the swap partition
[02:41] <shafire> how can i speed up the ubuntu-server installation? its so slow... it needs 15min to say that i have no inet connection...
[02:41] <ikonia> shafire: thats the timeout probably
[02:41] <sharperguy> going to pastebin
[02:41] <shafire> ikonia: how can i speed up
[02:41] <shafire> and the hardware detection is slow too
[02:41] <okay> hi
[02:42] <IdleOne> shafire: it could be real fast and not detect anything or it could be slow and take it's time and make sure that it detects everything
[02:42] <lubos> hello. please how you install g++ on ubuntu edgy?
[02:42] <ikonia> shafire: get a faster machine ? get an internet connection /
[02:42] <ikonia> lubos: apt-get install g++
[02:42] <shafire> faster machine?
[02:42] <shafire> 2.8ghz is slow?
[02:42] <shafire> i have only wlan
[02:42] <shafire> ...
[02:43] <ikonia> shafire: why are you installing server then ?
[02:43] <ikonia> that sounds like a laptop
[02:43] <joaospinto> hello can anyone help me installing ubuntu through windows?
[02:43] <shafire> because it should be my home server
[02:43] <thug> how do i get the subtitle font bigger in mplayer ?
[02:43] <ikonia> joaospinto: no
[02:43] <IdleOne> lubos: sudo aptitude install build-essential will install the tools you need to compile
[02:43] <joaospinto> instlux does that but i am having problem doing that!
[02:43] <lubos> thx but is there other way? i just trying linux in wmware and i have no internet connection there
[02:43] <ikonia> shafire: well, its only 15 minutes you have to live with once at install time
[02:43] <schizoschaf> hi. ich versuche gerade nen gpg key fr launchpad zu erstellen. Ich weiss aber nicht was die key-id ist fr --send-key
[02:43] <sharperguy> ikonia, it tells me the UUID of all the partitions exept swap :S
[02:43] <shafire> ikonia: and hardware detection 15min. too
[02:44] <mc44> !de | schizoschaf
[02:44] <ikonia> joaospinto: its a crappy experimental product - don't use it
[02:44] <ubotu> schizoschaf: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:44] <theDeus> can i start an apllication on a special desktop in beryl?
[02:44] <pbureau> !de | schizoschaf,
[02:44] <ubotu> schizoschaf,: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:44] <joaospinto> ij
[02:44] <joaospinto> ok
[02:44] <joaospinto> lol
[02:44] <schizoschaf> argh always the same
[02:44] <ikonia> shafire: but you only have to do that once at install time
[02:44] <shafire> ikonia: yes
[02:44] <arnducky> #ubuntu.de
[02:44] <shafire> but debian is faster
[02:44] <ikonia> sharperguy: check out fdisk and make sure your swap partition is ok
[02:44] <joaospinto> oh
[02:44] <joaospinto> i have a kubuntu cd
[02:44] <joaospinto> but i want to install ubuntu
[02:44] <joaospinto> are they realy realy diferent?
[02:44] <ikonia> shafire: ubuntu isn't debian
[02:44] <sharperguy> ikonia, you dont mean fsck?
[02:45] <ikonia> sharperguy: no - fdisk
[02:45] <ikonia> joaospinto: download the ubuntu cd
[02:45] <schizoschaf> i'm creating a gpg key for launchpad. i dont know what to use for  'key-id' in 'gpg --send-key key-id'
[02:45] <theDeus> joaospinto then install kubuntu and uninstall kde :)
[02:45] <Jeruvy> "sorry, cannot display contents of location 'windows network:machine'"  What does this error mean?
[02:45] <theDeus> wei jemand wie man ein programm auf einem bestimmten beryl desktop starten lassen kann?
[02:45] <ikonia> Jeruvy: it can't show the conects of the remove windows machine
[02:45] <chopchop_> /wc
[02:45] <ikonia> !de > thedeus
[02:46] <Jeruvy> ikonia: I can read, I don't understand
[02:46] <sharperguy> ikonia, what do i do with it?
[02:46] <theDeus> can i start an application on a special desktop in beryl?
[02:46] <joaospinto> theDeus
[02:46] <ikonia> sharperguy: run it on your harddisk and check the swap partition is set out fine
[02:46] <joaospinto> can i uninstall kde and then install facebox
[02:46] <Jeruvy> ikonia: why can't it display....it displays the others?
[02:46] <joaospinto> ups
[02:46] <joaospinto> fluxbox
[02:46] <joaospinto> lol
[02:47] <joaospinto> will it work just as ubuntu with fluxbox??
[02:47] <ikonia> Jeruvy: check the logs - if it can see the others then there must be something different with that box
[02:47] <Zaggynl> Hi, I have gdm and fluxbox installed, which is nice and fast, but I can't get startup items to work
[02:47] <Zaggynl> I've edited ~/.fluxbox/startup and added 'iceweasel &' before exec fluxbox, but it doesn't start at all
[02:47] <Jeruvy> ikonia: ok so you don't know.  thanks.
[02:47] <sharperguy> ikonia, i dont really know what you mean#
[02:47] <theDeus> wes joaospinto in works
[02:47] <ikonia> Jeruvy: of course I don't know - you've given me no info
[02:47] <TexasTaz> Good Morning everyone
[02:48] <ikonia> sharperguy: run fdsk on your hard disk and check there is a valid swap partition
[02:48] <Jeruvy> ikonia: I asked what the 'error' means.........
[02:48] <sharperguy> ikonia, running fdisk /dev/hdb, dosnt really give anything useful
[02:48] <lubos> is there other way :( ? i just trying linux in wmware and i have no internet connection there.
[02:48] <chevdor> hello folks, new ubuntu user, i just installed it. I have created user. What is the default root password ?
[02:48] <Cappy> Hello there TexasTaz
[02:48] <ikonia> Jeruvy: and I told you what it means - if you want to know why you have to check the logs and share that info
[02:48] <joaospinto> thedeus will i be able to uninstall kde?
[02:48] <art_> hello - i have problem whit wine - i run :
[02:48] <art_> sudo wine /home/art/Desktop/Ro/BloodyRO.exe
[02:48] <art_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:48] <art_> err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo  couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect problems
[02:48] <art_> err:wgl:has_opengl Intialization of OpenGL info failed, disabling OpenGL!
[02:48] <art_> err:seh:setup_exception stack overflow 556 bytes in thread 0009 eip 7b84085f esp 00230dd4 stack 0x231000-0x340000
[02:48] <TexasTaz> What;s shakin Cappy How are ya tiday?
[02:48] <ikonia> chevdor: http://www.ubunut.com read up on how ubuntu users work
[02:48] <joaospinto> and how will i be able to install a file manager and so on if i will only have fluxbox with nothing more??
[02:48] <ikonia> art_: please use the pastebin
[02:49] <theDeus> lol i dont know joaospinto :D
[02:49] <andrynux> ciao
[02:49] <sharperguy> !root | chevdor
[02:49] <ubotu> chevdor: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:49] <Cappy> TexasTaz: Not wanting to be up so early =P
[02:49] <theDeus> joaospinto download ubuntu cd
[02:49] <Toma-> Im trying to start a Xvnc server with a custom geometry, but cant use vncconnect on the same box to test
[02:49] <ikonia> sharperguy: fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[02:49] <GreyGhost> andrynux ,hello
[02:49] <MoRpHeUz> no way to run flumotion on ubuntu =(
[02:49] <TexasTaz> lol Cappy
[02:49] <andrynux> hallo
[02:49] <sharperguy> ikonia, o ok cheers
[02:49] <TexasTaz> I have to get up this early everyday
[02:50] <TexasTaz> I have to I work for a large hosting company
[02:50] <sharperguy> ikonia, ok yea it says its fine, and besides, "swapon /dev/hdb3" works fine
[02:50] <pbureau> TexasTaz,  what you cvall 8am early... I feed my horses (I live in texas) every morning at 5am
[02:50] <TexasTaz> And I have to be there real early
[02:50] <ikonia> ok - thats good, just checking the basics
[02:50] <andrynux> help
[02:50] <chevdor> ubotu: thx i know sudo, but i want to su, I'll read the link ikonia suggests
[02:50] <TexasTaz> Nope I am usually up at 4am
[02:50] <pbureau> TexasTaz,  Ah ok
[02:50] <mackinac> !bot
[02:50] <HymnToLife> ubotu, tell chevdor about root | chevdor, see the private message from ubotu.
[02:51] <Cappy> TexasTaz: I fell asleep early last night .. threaten my mind to have to study for a test and I'll just .. rest .. you know .. for a little bit
[02:51] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:51] <sharperguy> chevdor, set root password with "sudo passwd"
[02:51] <TexasTaz> lol yup been there got the book
[02:51] <sharperguy> chevdor, although its not reccomended
[02:51] <ikonia> sharperguy: I've not got an edgy box on hand, but I'm surprised that blkid doesn't show swap
[02:51] <chevdor> sharperguy not recommended to set the root password ?
[02:52] <ikonia> chevdor: not in the ubuntu methods
[02:52] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: Okay I open the hidden dir and found xpt in there.. should I delete both file?
[02:52] <Cappy> TexasTaz: I'm on the east coast but I've been up for a while now lol
[02:52] <agliv5> Greetings all :) I'm trying to fix kqemu and was following this guide: "http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=308720&highlight=kqemu+edgy" I did everything as it states and I'm still getting the following error : "FATAL: Error inserting kqemu (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/misc/kqemu.ko): Invalid module format" The strange thing is that I have completley removed all linux-header version 2.6.17 packages... how do I fix the linx to the <IP_ADDRESS> th
[02:52] <agliv5> at is installed?
[02:52] <chevdor> sharperguy It means anyone accessing my user account can sudo passwd and change my root password ?????
[02:52] <TexasTaz> lol I am in Houston so I have been up for about 4 hours
[02:52] <ikonia> chevdor: you don't tell people your password
[02:52] <agliv5> sorry about the long description, but it's complicated...
[02:52] <joyoftech> how do i single boot ubuntu on a macbook?
[02:52] <sharperguy> chevdor, all sudo commands ask for your user password
[02:53] <frogzoo> chevdor: that's what it means - don't share your user password
[02:53] <Eneath> hi
[02:53] <sharperguy> chevdor, probably easier if you just read the link to find out about it
[02:53] <TexasTaz> Is there only one cd for the server installation
[02:53] <ikonia> sharperguy: I'm not %100 certain on this, but I think you can remove the blkid's in edgy and replace it with hdb3
[02:53] <ikonia> TexasTaz: yes
[02:53] <chevdor> sharperguy I'll read the link, just surprised with this new rule ^^
[02:54] <Morrowyn> morning
[02:54] <ikonia> chevdor: not new
[02:54] <pbureau> or simply change the root password account password and sudo su will ask for root password therefore blocking anyone knowing your usera ccount from using the root account
[02:54] <TexasTaz> I am trying to install cacti and stuff but I can't get the desktop to let me do that
[02:54] <sharperguy> chevdor, I think its always been the default with ubuntu to use sudo
[02:54] <ikonia> TexasTaz: whats the error ?
[02:54] <TexasTaz> LEt me try and recreate it hold on a sec
[02:55] <agliv5> Apparently, a system link is broken because it's trying to install to a dir that no longer exists... can someone please help me fix it?
[02:55] <snoopy> hello
[02:55] <sharperguy> ikonia, yea, you can do it with other partitions. I was just wondering what the fstab line should look like for swap
[02:55] <pbureau> swap sw 0 0
[02:55] <Cappy> can X run on a linux server that doesn't have a video card installed, say if you want to VNC in or whatever
[02:55] <ikonia> sharperguy: /dev/hda3       none            swap    sw              0       0
[02:55] <sharperguy> ikonia, cheers
[02:56] <PwcrLinux> aha
[02:56] <ikonia> Cappy: you can't run X but you can have the x libs installed
[02:56] <chevdor> Thank you guy, I don't say it is a bad way, I am just discovering ^^, although, for some reasons I think it is better to have a root password, i keep reading the ubuntu wiki ^^
[02:56] <dusty_> hey guys, for some reason my firefox randomly crashes and its pretty frequent.
[02:56] <dusty_>           running it on ubuntu linux any ideas why? or how i can find out why - possibly
[02:56] <dusty_>           one of the plugins not sure?
[02:56] <dusty_>           one of the plugins not sure?
[02:57] <dusty_> hey guys, for some reason my firefox randomly crashes and its pretty frequent.
[02:57] <ikonia> dusty_: stop !
[02:57] <dusty_> sorry my irc client messedup
[02:57] <Cappy> ikonia: crap, I thought for sure I could =P
[02:57] <GuerrillaWon> Dusty_ are you running the same program when this happens? And what do you mean by crash? What exactly happens?
[02:57] <TexasTaz> nm I see what happened DUH!
[02:57] <ikonia> Cappy: no as there will be no 0:0 display (for example) however you can have the libs installed and run that remotly
[02:58] <ikonia> Cappy: if you see what I mean
[02:58] <dusty_> GuerrillaWon it just goes away like disappears, i run xchat and kconsole at the same time
[02:58] <TexasTaz> google.com
[02:58] <TexasTaz> shhot lol
[02:58] <TexasTaz> Wrong kb
[02:58] <Cappy> ikonia: I think so, thanks, I'll google for more
[02:58] <GuerrillaWon> The sreen goes black forcing you to reboot?
[02:58] <ikonia> Cappy: cool, let me know if you want more detail or explination
[02:58] <dusty_> no firefox closes
[02:59] <ikonia> Cappy: keep in mind that vnc isn't X
[02:59] <ikonia> its a remote protocol - not a desktop/x-client
[03:00] <TexasTaz> What causes this -> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:01] <ikonia> TexasTaz: your not root or synaptic is already running
[03:01] <TexasTaz> Yeah it was thanks
[03:01] <TexasTaz> I am stu\ill getting usede to ubuntu
[03:01] <TexasTaz> ooops
[03:01] <TexasTaz> still getting used to it
[03:02] <art_> http://wklej.org/id/fb1661ae44 - what im doing wrong?
[03:03] <ikonia> art_: 1.) thats wine 2.) its complaining that your X server does not have GL enabled/working
[03:03] <seravitae> how can i make my own keyboard shortcuts? not thru preferences-->keyboard shortcuts... i wanna launch a script i made.
[03:03] <GreyGhost> art_ , run "glxinfo | grep renderer "
[03:03] <Morrowyn> art, you prolly dont have opengl running on your X
[03:04] <soundray> !xbindkeys | seravitae
[03:04] <ikonia> seravitae: so launch the script
[03:04] <ubotu> seravitae: xbindkeys: Associate a combination of keys or mouse buttons with a shell command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 148 kB
[03:04] <Morrowyn> either load "glx" in your xorg.conf is commented out or your vidcard doesnt support it
[03:04] <seravitae> sweet, ta.
[03:04] <art_> let me see
[03:04] <drkm> I've got a problem, my system updater came up yesterday and told me there was updates available.. as usual I updated and when I turned my system on this morning, there was a problem with my nvidia drivers and I had to the generic NV ones.. but then gnome loaded up ratherer than KDE, my default.. has anyone one else had any problems?
[03:04] <theDeus> can i start an application on a special desktop in beryl??
[03:05] <Morrowyn> you need to the newer linux modules restricted thingy
[03:05] <soundray> theDeus: ask in #ubuntu-effects please
[03:05] <ikonia> theDeus: whats a special desktop ?
[03:05] <Morrowyn> afaik
[03:05] <theDeus> soundray i will do
[03:05] <ikonia> theDeus: whats a special desktop ?
[03:05] <theDeus> ikonia that i can choos on what a desktop a program starts
[03:05] <ikonia> ahhh I see
[03:06] <Silverado> are there italian?
[03:06] <shafire> how can i install uubuntu minmal?
[03:06] <ikonia> theDeus: you may want to ask that like this "How can I tell an applicaiton to launch on a specific desktop under beryl"
[03:06] <theDeus> termin at desktop 1, firefox on 2 and so on
[03:06] <IdleOne> !it | Silverado
[03:06] <ubotu> Silverado: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:06] <ikonia> shafire: install the server edition
[03:06] <soundray> theDeus: in gnome/metacity, you can achieve that with devilspie. Don't know if the same will work in beryl
[03:06] <Silverado> thank
[03:06] <theDeus> yes ikonia :) sorry for my bad english
[03:07] <ikonia> theDeus: thats no problem, I just think you'll get a better response if you ask that way
[03:07] <IdleOne> Silverado: prego
[03:08] <theDeus> ikonia thanks, i will ask in the other channel and later here again if a get no response
[03:08] <theDeus> my english is damn bad
[03:08] <xratex> hihi, how do i reconfigure the xserver?
[03:08] <frogzoo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:08] <seravitae> soundray: i installed xbindkeys but /usr/inlcude/X11/keysym.h and such doesnt exist so i can't determine the codes.
[03:09] <geokok> Hi. Can I copy files with cp to a non-existing folder (without using mkdir first)??
[03:09] <xratex> i tryed that frogzoo but when i put the password doesent work, maybe if i change it?
[03:09] <ikonia> theDeus: your english is fine, I'm just trying to help you get the best response
[03:10] <Silverado> Ciao a tutti e buon proseguimento
[03:10] <theDeus> ikonia you think that my english is fine? i don't think so:)
[03:10] <agliv5> modprobe kqemu is trying to insert into a dirrectory that no longer exists... can anyone help me fix this problem?
[03:10] <soundray> seravitae: try xbindkeys-config (extra package) for configuring. If you still get this error, you may need the build-essential package.
[03:10] <ikonia> its fine, I get your message
[03:10] <theDeus> but i dont know why it is so bad ^^
[03:11] <geokok> foutrelis hi. Can u help me with CLI?
[03:11] <drkm> I've got a problem, my system updater came up yesterday and told me there was updates available.. as usual I updated and when I turned my system on this morning, there was a problem with my nvidia drivers and I had to the generic NV ones.. but then gnome loaded up ratherer than KDE, my default.. has anyone one else had any problems?
[03:11] <IdleOne> theDeus: your english may not be perfect but you seem to speak it well enough to get other people to understand what it is you want :)
[03:11] <seravitae> soundray: it's cool, i guessed it and it works.
[03:11] <foutrelis> geokok: I 'd be happy to :)
[03:12] <foutrelis> geokok: If I can of course
[03:12] <pecisk> what I should enable in /etc/apache2/mods-aviable to get LDAP supported Auth
[03:12] <theDeus> IdleOne yes i know some english basics :)
[03:12] <Guardian> hi i'm running a dell inspiron 8600 laptop, when battery is empty it just shuts down ... what should i fix/install ?
[03:12] <geokok> thanks foutrelis. I want to cp /folderA/*.mp3 /media/usbdisk/folderB without using mkdir to create folderB first
[03:13] <soundray> Guardian: System-Preferences-Power Management
[03:13] <frogzoo> Guardian: that's correct behaviour, what's the problem?
[03:14] <IdleOne> Guardian: i am guessing here but I think you need to change the settings in power management under Sytem > Administrations somewhere :/
[03:14] <foutrelis> geokok: Why don't you want to use mkdir?
[03:14] <Guardian> frogzoo: brutal shutdown
[03:14] <geokok> foutrelis because the folders are way too many and I want to avoid one step if possible
[03:14] <Guardian> frogzoo: like, brutal power off
[03:14] <foutrelis> geokok: Oh.. I see :)
[03:14] <foutrelis> let me see something
[03:14] <theDeus> okay i will ask again, perhaps is now somebody here who know the answer :)
[03:14] <geokok> ok
[03:15] <theDeus> How can I tell an application to launch on a specific desktop under beryl?
[03:15] <soundray> theDeus: use devilspie
[03:15] <foutrelis> geokok: Try using the -r switch :)
[03:15] <frogzoo> Guardian: something's wrong then - the shutdown should run the shutdown scripts
[03:15] <TexasTaz> Okay got that part done
[03:15] <art_> http://wklej.org/id/9a87e2122a i have something like that when makeglxinfo | grep renderer
[03:15] <theDeus> should i try if it runs together with beryl? :)
[03:15] <Guardian> indeed something's wrong
[03:15] <Guardian> :(
[03:16] <Guardian> also, battery life is by far lower when running ubuntu compared to windows :(
[03:16] <geokok> foutrelis no luck with recursive
[03:17] <frogzoo> Guardian: you can vastly improve battery life with tweaking
[03:17] <soundray> Guardian: make sure you have laptop-mode-tools installed and configure /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf
[03:17] <geo-> like what?
[03:17] <Guardian> soundray: thx
[03:17] <foutrelis> geokok: Does it copy all the files and you just want the mp3s?
[03:18] <geokok> foutrelis no I can get the mp3's only. I dont want to create manually the destination folder
[03:18] <TexasTaz> How do I change the default software sources?
[03:18] <geokok> foutrelis try to copy something to a non-existing folder and u ll see what I mean :)
[03:19] <TexasTaz> Wait I think i got it
[03:19] <TexasTaz> Hmmmm nope i guess not
[03:20] <IdleOne> !sources | TexasTaz
[03:20] <ubotu> TexasTaz: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:20] <foutrelis> geokok: No such file or directory :)
[03:20] <IdleOne> TexasTaz: dont use non-ubuntu sources unless you know what you are doing
[03:21] <flag> Does anybody have experience with scanning with Samsung SCX-4521F in Ubuntu 6.10?
[03:21] <geokok> foutrelis exactly. Cant I use the mkdir somehow inside the cp with quote marks or echo?
[03:21] <TexasTaz> I know IdleOne I got myself in to trouble with that already lol
[03:21] <IdleOne> !scanning | flag
[03:21] <ubotu> flag: Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[03:24] <soundray> geokok: it's best to write a two-line script to solve your problem.
[03:24] <art_> how can i get plugins for avi
[03:24] <art_> ?
[03:24] <soundray> !restricted | art_
[03:24] <ubotu> art_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:25] <arnadelo_> art searh automatix
[03:25] <flag> I know I have to use xsane. At the moment the scanner is not suported by sane, but Samsung delivers an driver. But the installation end with the message: /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/mfpportctrl/mfpport.ko':
[03:25] <flag> No such file or directory
[03:25] <LjL> !automatix
[03:25] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:25] <geokok> soundray any suggestions for the script? :)
[03:26] <knovak> Anyone have experience with VMWare?
[03:26] <kritzstapf> how to remove a package including all settings?
[03:26] <kritzstapf> my kiba-dock is messed up and id like to reset it
[03:27] <adaptr> geokok: cp has optios to create destination directories when needed
[03:27] <LjL> kritzstapf: sudo apt-get --purge remove package
[03:27] <LjL> kritzstapf: this won't remove the settings that are found in your *home* dir, however. those always have to be removed manually.
[03:28] <Peres_> hello ubuntu
[03:28] <geokok> adaptr: any clues how?
[03:28] <soundray> geokok: echo '#!/bin/bash' >/tmp/tmpscript ; echo 'mkdir $1 ; cp /source/location/*.mp3 $1/' >>/tmp/tmpscript ; chmod 755 /tmp/tmpscript ; sudo mv /tmp/tmpscript /usr/local/bin/mkdcopy
[03:28] <adaptr> geokok: cp -a will recreate the directory structure of the source
[03:28] <kritzstapf> LjL, hm, kiba-dock uses those gconf-settings, but i dont know how to delete items of the tree
[03:28] <Peres_> after update, my X wont start --> NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module
[03:29] <Yeti_69> !fr
[03:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:29] <foutrelis> soundray: Interesting script :)
[03:29] <LjL> kritzstapf: i don't know that, either
[03:29] <geokok> adaptr it doesnt work
[03:29] <adaptr> geokok: of course it does, man cp
[03:30] <Peres_> NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module problem help needed
[03:30] <agliv5> modprobe kqemu is trying to insert into a dirrectory that no longer exists... can anyone help me fix this problem?
[03:30] <xratex> "XSERVER-XORG" is broken or it's not full installed, how do i fix that???
[03:30] <soundray> foutrelis: I haven't tested it...
[03:30] <geokok> adaptr u say it recreates the structure of the source? but will that do what I need?
[03:30] <jbl> join #ubuntu-java
[03:30] <kritzstapf> LjL, gconf-editor has no button for deleting folders :/
[03:30] <LjL> Peres_: do you have Edgy and have some non-official nvidia drivers installed?
[03:31] <Peres_> LjL: yeah, i have
[03:31] <adaptr> geokok: not if the script he swhowed is what you want, no
[03:31] <CrakeHunter> hello, i am trying to mount and install a cd with cedega - it gives me an erroer message: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only; wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda, missing codepage or other error ; what can i do
[03:31] <LjL> Peres_: well, you noticed there was a kernel update two days ago - new kernel version = your unofficial drivers stop working
[03:31] <LjL> Peres_: get newer versions. where did you get the drivers from originally?
[03:31] <Peres_> LjL: yeah, i rebooted this morning..
[03:32] <zarephath> CrakeHunter: Are you trying to install to a ntfs drive?
[03:32] <Peres_> LjL: but can i apt-get install the offcial drivers?
[03:32] <geokok> adaptr yes i think it is thanks
[03:32] <CrakeHunter> zarepath, no to LVM (ext3)
[03:32] <geokok> soundray thaks
[03:32] <Peres_> LjL, or do i have to delete the unoffical drivers?
[03:32] <CrakeHunter> btw it doesnt even mount! so i cannot install
[03:32] <LjL> Peres_: uh... now that you have unofficial ones (with a newer version number) installed... i guess you can, but it involves convincing APT about it
[03:32] <geokok> foutrelis I hope we see in ubuntu-gr at freenode
[03:32] <geokok> bye
[03:32] <soundray> geokok: I haven't tested it
[03:33] <LjL> Peres_: you need to delete the unofficial ones first. did they come in a package?
[03:33] <jbl> I'm trying to install the ee5 SDK on edgy. I'm getting the "insufficient disk partition space" message at the end of the installer. Any suggestions?
[03:33] <soundray> geokok: but I guess you can model a working script after my suggestion
[03:33] <geokok> soundray I ll let u know if it breaks something :P
[03:33] <antonio_> need help w/ubuntu macintel and sound
[03:33] <xratex> "XSERVER-XORG" is broken or it's not full installed, how am i supposed to fix that???
[03:33] <zarephath> CrakeHunter: Then you will have to look into the security settins associated with LVM more than likely...are you trying to do is as sudo/root?
[03:33] <LjL> xratex: try  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[03:33] <jbl> I'm using sudo
[03:33] <xratex> kk
[03:34] <naranha> hi, i'm trying to install ubuntu on a machine where windows runs fine. however in the live cd running gnome it crashes when starting the installer or using the system for a few seconds (like firefox...)
[03:34] <antonio_> need help w/ubuntu macintel and sound, running ubuntu 6.10
[03:34] <mqueiros> hello! I'm trying to get my email from Evolution 2.4 (in ubuntu 5.10) to Evolution 2.6 (in dapper drake). Is there anything I should be careful about, or simply copying .evolution will do it ?
[03:34] <CrakeHunter> zarepath, can you give me a more precise advice, please? i am kind of new
[03:34] <soundray> !sound | antonio_
[03:34] <ubotu> antonio_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:34] <TexasTaz> Hey Does Ubuntu work on Broadcom Wireless Cards or do i have to use ndiswraaper?
[03:34] <zarephath> anyone know of a more recent guide on installing and using e17?
[03:34] <TexasTaz> wrapper
[03:34] <daviey> TexasTaz, try it and see
[03:34] <zarephath> CrakeHunter: Sorry I don't have any to give...
[03:35] <TexasTaz> Ewwww man I hate that but I will lol
[03:35] <antonio_> let me try that, had it working on 6.06
[03:35] <LjL> !broadcom > TexasTaz    (TexasTaz, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:35] <CrakeHunter> ok, thx nonetheless, so you think the problem might be the lvm?
[03:35] <TexasTaz> Thanks LjL preciate that
[03:36] <LjL> TexasTaz: i'd say ndiswrapper, at a quick look
[03:36] <vlatko>  I just installed linux a few months ago...I didn't notice I couldn't play online radio stations.
[03:36] <zarephath> CrakeHunter: I am just guessing that there may be security permissions controlled by a file, or something that you have to be in to allow you to do it..you might check the cedega site too and search for the problem
[03:36] <vlatko> anyone could help me with that? :(
[03:36] <tony759> hello everyone
[03:36] <xratex> LjL , segmentation fail (core dumped)
[03:36] <derrick1985> hi, if there is anyone here that could help me configure hula pm me please.
[03:37] <daviey> derrick1985, i gave up
[03:37] <daviey> derrick1985, the packages seem borked
[03:37] <CrakeHunter> ok, thanks
[03:37] <LjL> xratex, something is seriously wrong. please provide me with some background... have you just installed ubuntu? or have you had it for some time? if the latter, did anything specific trigger this problem?
[03:37] <TexasTaz> vlatko well you can you just have to get the right stream file pls will usually play on mplayer I think
[03:37] <vlatko> hey guys, what can I do to listen to online radio....I can't do that....
[03:37] <zarephath> antonio: You might run alsamixer first and check to see that the external amplifier is on in the mixer...mine defaults to this..and I get no sound...hit M to turn it off and you will have sound
[03:37] <xratex> LjL ill pm u
[03:37] <derrick1985> that's never good. I keep getting auth failures.
[03:37] <vlatko> how do I do that? stream?
[03:38] <higiraven> hello does anyone know how can i resize a video?
[03:38] <LjL> xratex: join #ubuntu-classroom instead, so if other people are interested and/or can help, they will
[03:38] <TexasTaz> Hold on let me find the tutorial for you
[03:38] <ardchoille> higiraven: You mean in mplayer?
[03:38] <vlatko> I will appreciate that so much texastaz thank you.
[03:38] <higiraven> ardchoille: well ive got a video but I want it to be smaller in size
[03:39] <ardchoille> higiraven: Ok, I thought you mean the width/height of the video.
[03:39] <TexasTaz> vlatko -> LINUX USERS  download and install both MPlayer (MPlayer-0.90) and the Mozilla MPlayer plugin (MPlayerplug-in-0.95). If you still have difficulties listening, download and install the additional codecs that are located on the MPlayer home page.
[03:39] <higiraven> yeah that too
[03:39] <higiraven> is is possible ardchoille?
[03:39] <ardchoille> higiraven: You are talking about filesize?
[03:39] <higiraven> nono height and width
[03:39] <higiraven> sorry
[03:40] <daviey> derrick1985, are you getting my pm's?
[03:40] <soundray> I'm trying to compile a program and getting "error: FL/Fl.h: No such file or directory', even though the file is present and I've passed the location via cmake. How can I troubleshoot this?
[03:40] <vlatko> thanks a lot Texastaz, I'll see what I can do =)
[03:40] <TexasTaz> vlatko -> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.html
[03:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> this may be redundant to everyone here but I have not watched the channel.  Is the new kernel up date ok now?
[03:40] <ardchoille> higiraven: In mplayer, hold on. lemme fire it up
[03:40] <foutrelis> [BTF] Chm0d: Just updated. Works ok
[03:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> ok
[03:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> tx
[03:40] <foutrelis> np
[03:41] <ardchoille> higiraven: In mplayer, if you change the video driver to xv, you can resize the video on the fly
[03:41] <TexasTaz> You would have to find the link to the stream file and play if through the file menu though I thinkl them book mark it
[03:41] <ooglaboogla> how do i install ubuntu using text mode
[03:41] <higiraven> ardchoille:  how?
[03:41] <TexasTaz> them = then
[03:41] <foutrelis> ooglaboogla: You ll need the alternate CD
[03:41] <IdleOne> ooglaboogla: download the Alternat CD from www.ubuntu.com
[03:41] <ardchoille> higiraven: How what? How to choose a different video driver?
[03:41] <higiraven> yes
[03:42] <ooglaboogla> foutrelis: i have DVD that came with Linux Format magazine, isn't there a boot option to make it go to text install
[03:42] <ooglaboogla> i can input options just don't know what to type
[03:42] <TexasTaz> I am going offline for little bit guys, Installing Ubuntu Server on this and Ubuntu desktop on my laptop
[03:42] <ardchoille> higiraven: open mplayer, right click the main window, choose Preferences, go to the video tab and select xv
[03:42] <ardchoille> higiraven: Then click "OK'
[03:43] <derrick1985> so, no one has an actual working hula server?
[03:43] <ardchoille> higiraven: Restart the video and the video should resize as you resize the mplayer window
[03:43] <IdleOne> whats the command to install a .deb I have downloaded to my Desktop?
[03:43] <derrick1985> dpkg -i
[03:43] <IdleOne> ty
[03:43] <jrib> IdleOne: or just double click on it
[03:43] <ardchoille> IdleOne: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[03:43] <IdleOne> ty ty :)
[03:43] <derrick1985> yeah, don't forget the sudo part. :)
[03:44] <higiraven> ardchoille:  and the size saves? i mean, the video will be at that resolution for ever?
[03:44] <ardchoille> higiraven: No, it will fall back to the default for that video, but you can just resize it again. The deault size for the video is in the video itself, I don't think you can change that.
[03:45] <higiraven> ah, thats what im trying to do
[03:45] <higiraven> i have to re-encode it i believe
[03:45] <ardchoille> higiraven: Ah, yeah, you'll have to reencode. Sorry, I totally misunderstood you.
[03:46] <IdleOne> is Virtualbox in the repos?
[03:46] <ardchoille> !virtualbox
[03:46] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[03:46] <ardchoille> IdleOne: ^^
[03:46] <IdleOne> ardchoille: yeah but the instruction on that site are a little confusing to me :/
[03:47] <ompaul> IdleOne, one would expect you to know how to check the repos at this stage
[03:47] <ompaul> }:->
[03:47] <IdleOne> ompaul: I do :P and I did but came up empty so I figured I would ask anyway :)
[03:48] <ardchoille> IdleOne: apt-cache search virtualbox returns nothing
[03:48] <IdleOne> ok so it seems I need to compile a kernel module but that frightens me a little
[03:48] <ikonia> IdleOne: what are you trying to install
[03:49] <IdleOne> virtualbox
[03:49] <jussi01> hei all, Im learning c++ through tutorials... Ive just written the "hello world" program, now i need to compile it. how do I do this in kdevelop?
[03:49] <IdleOne> ikonia: just read about it and wanted to try it out
[03:49] <CrakeHunter> is anyone in here running CEDEGA on ubuntu? cause i cant mount my DVD-rom with cedega. it says: block device /dev/hda is write protected, mounting read-only. what should i do?
[03:49] <jussi01> Idle one, is there a reason your not using the .deb?
[03:50] <ikonia> CrakeHunter: a dvd rom IS read only
[03:50] <LjL> jussi01, actually even the .deb itself goes out to compile the kernel module ;)
[03:50] <IdleOne> jussi01: I downloaded the .deb but I got a failed to compile module error
[03:50] <LjL> ... and fails, if you don't have the right dependencies (which it doesn't list :P)
[03:50] <jussi01> oh ;) thanks...
[03:50] <ardchoille> LjL: Do you have ESP? lol
[03:50] <IdleOne> LjL: I d/l the depends as the virtualbox site said and installed using aptitude
[03:51] <arnducky> jussi01: what's wrong with compiling from the CLI (bash or dash) since gcc is already integrated?
[03:51] <jussi01> so anyone know how to compile in kdevelop?
[03:51] <LjL> ardchoille: i just have virtualbox installed :P
[03:51] <Eposhark> Hi, I custom compiled my kernel, and all went well, I even got the NVIDIA drivers backto work
[03:51] <ardchoille> hehe
[03:51] <LjL> IdleOne: pastebin the full output of apt
[03:51] <jussi01> oh, Im just learning, didnt know i could
[03:51] <Eposhark> However, my wireless internet is not working, what should I do?
[03:51] <arnducky> jussi01: make foo.c
[03:51] <IdleOne> LjL: gimme a sec
[03:51] <Eposhark> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158 > I followed this thread
[03:52] <jussi01> arnducky: in terminal?
[03:52] <arnducky> yep
[03:53] <fla1> test
[03:53] <ikonia> worked
[03:53] <CrakeHunter> ikonia, the error is followed by: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda, missing codepage or other error
[03:53] <ardchoille> fla1: passed
[03:53] <CrakeHunter> i am using LVM
[03:53] <ikonia> CrakeHunter: why are you trying to use LVM on a dvd rom
[03:53] <IdleOne> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5228/
[03:53] <arnducky> lmao
[03:54] <CrakeHunter> no, well its like this: i try to mount a DVDrom with cedega. and it needs to be mounted on my harddisc (i guess - im new to linux) now it gives me this error
[03:54] <ikonia> CrakeHunter: do you have a dvd in the dvdrom drive ?
[03:54] <CrakeHunter> ;) of course, guildwars - nightfall
[03:55] <IdleOne> LjL: I need to get to work :( I hate sundays but I'll be back later tonight and if you could help me then or tomorrow I would appreciate it :)
[03:55] <Eposhark> No one a clue about my problem?
[03:55] <ikonia> CrakeHunter: read up on cedega, not sure why you're having this problems, but I never use cedega so i don't know
[03:55] <LjL> IdleOne: ok... anyway check if you have /var/log/vbox-install.log and if it says anything (though in some cases it does not say anything)
[03:56] <ikonia> Eposhark: what the problem
[03:56] <Eposhark> Hi, I custom compiled my kernel, and all went well, I even got the NVIDIA drivers backto work
[03:56] <Eposhark> However, my wireless internet is not working, what should I do?
[03:56] <ikonia> Eposhark: 1.) why did you build a custom kernel 2.) what options did you change in the custom kernel
[03:56] <rrohde> since ever I run feisty with beryl I get only a white cube without textures... what can I do to fix that?
[03:56] <Eposhark> I followed this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[03:57] <ikonia> Eposhark: thats not what I asked
[03:57] <CrakeHunter> k, thanks tho
[03:57] <Eposhark> Why? Because the guide said I would gain a performance boost, and because I wanted to learn how a kernel compile works
[03:57] <Eposhark> These are the changes I made: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1174954&postcount=507
[03:58] <ikonia> Eposhark: well, from my point of view your on your own. You shouldn't be messing with the kernel unless a.) you know what your doing b.) you have a real reason to do so
[03:58] <ikonia> I don't feel like walking through kernel debug with someone who's just done it for no reason (with respect)
[03:58] <Eposhark> Well, I got the same problem when I didn't touch a setting at all
[03:59] <aarohi> how do i edit the theme for applications that are running on GNOME but are KDE specific?
[03:59] <Eposhark> Some guide mentioned I had to re-install ndiswrapper, which I did, but to no avail
[03:59] <ikonia> Eposhark: I'd help you with an ubuntu stock kernel, but I'm not working through issue on your custom kernel
[03:59] <Eposhark> The settings for wireless network are not changed in my kernel ikonia, I loaded my existing .config file
[03:59] <ikonia> Eposhark: sorry, thats not how it works
[04:00] <tomsp> (yes, i read the faq) i have an acer aspire 5020 (not listed in the laptop compatibility lists) and while trying to install ubuntu 6.06 LTS, tnj
[04:00] <tomsp> the screen goes black after a while
[04:00] <tomsp> that is, about a minute after the "install ubuntu" screen
[04:00] <Eposhark> ikonia, I don't expect you to actually solve my problem, but I've tried what I could: I installed ndiswrapper, but that didn't work
[04:01] <Eposhark> You don't have an idea to what I could try?
[04:01] <tomsp> and before i can choose my language (which would be the next step according to the help site)
[04:01] <ikonia> Eposhark: your using a custom kernel - therefore things like ndiswrapper from the repo's may be incompatible
[04:01] <Eposhark> I installed it from source
[04:01] <ikonia> Eposhark: thats even more crazy as your breaking your whole repo dependency tree
[04:01] <Eposhark> As stated here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=104539&highlight=compile+ndiswrapper+source
[04:01] <Tadej> hi
[04:02] <ikonia> Eposhark: sounds like you've made a mess of your box
[04:02] <Tadej> my xmms is crashing with this error
[04:02] <Tadej> Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x2def8)!
[04:02] <Tadej> any idea whats wrong?
[04:02] <Eposhark> I don't know ikonia, my old kernel works just fine :)
[04:02] <aarohi> how do i edit the theme for applications that are running on GNOME but are KDE specific? like amarok in ubuntu.... how do i edit the theme/style?
[04:02] <ikonia> Eposhark: you just said it didn't work in your old kernel
[04:02] <Eposhark> I did?
[04:03] <ikonia> yes - you said you had the same problem in your old kernel
[04:03] <guillermo> cartago
[04:03] <tomsp> (...er, did somebody read my question...?)
 Well, I got the same problem when I didn't touch a setting at all </quote>
[04:03] <Eposhark> i'm sorry ikonia, but that's not what I meant
[04:03] <Eposhark> Ah, I said that because I compiled the kernel first without touching a setting in it
[04:04] <ikonia> Eposhark: well either way, sound like you've got your box in a bit of a mess
[04:04] <Eposhark> And wireless wasn't working, so it couldn't have been a setting I broke
[04:04] <Eposhark> I didn't do much though... Compiled the 2.6.20 kernel, rebooted, fixed nvidia, installed ndiswrapper from source
[04:04] <mhiku> how to extract tbz files?
[04:04] <ikonia> thats enough
[04:04] <ikonia> mhiku: tar jxvf
[04:05] <ardchoille> Good night :)
[04:05] <agliv5> modprobe kqemu is trying to insert into a dirrectory that no longer exists... can anyone help me fix this problem?
[04:05] <ikonia> agliv5: make the dir ?
[04:05] <Tadej> is there any last.fm xmms plugin that works ok?
[04:07] <agliv5> ikonia, It's trying to install into a dir for the linux-headers that I have since replaced with a different version, so I want it to install to the dir where the installed version is...
[04:07] <Belkrem> whats the command for the termial to list your hardware
[04:07] <ikonia> agliv5: why have you swapped the header versions ?
[04:07] <agliv5> ikonia, it's a really long story
[04:07] <ikonia> Belkrem: tools like lspci
[04:07] <ikonia> agliv5: summerise
[04:08] <Eposhark> I'll look some more, thanks ikonia :-)
[04:08] <agliv5> ikonia, I had -10 and everthing was wonderfull, then I updated to -11 and all **** broke loose
[04:08] <wikignom> hello! i'm trying to install ubuntu but i am encountering a problem. apparently, this is the wrong place to go, where should i ask?
[04:08] <ikonia> agliv5: how did you update to -11
[04:08] <agliv5> ikonia, via synaptic
[04:08] <ikonia> ok - thats fine, but that shoujldn't change your kernel headers
[04:09] <Belkrem> lspci lists it but i need to know the location of the hardware
[04:09] <ikonia> agliv5: the headers should still be 2.6.x not 2.6.x-x
[04:09] <ikonia> Belkrem: what do you mean the location ?
[04:09] <agliv5> ikonia, so I did a complete remove of -11 and reinstalled -10, but apparently there are still some links pointing to -11 directories...
[04:09] <Eposhark> lspci -n Belkrem ?
[04:09] <ikonia> agliv5: can you please show me a line or two of the error
[04:09] <jbl> Anybody had any luck installing ee5 sdk on edgy?
[04:10] <Belkrem> like PCI:1:5:0
[04:10] <agliv5> ikonia, FATAL: Error inserting kqemu (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/misc/kqemu.ko): Invalid module format
[04:10] <Belkrem> the busid
[04:11] <ikonia> agliv5: thats nothing to do with headers
[04:11] <agliv5> ikonia, I was following following guide to try to fix the probelm http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=308720&highlight=kqemu+edgy LjL recommended that to me yesterday....