[00:06] <tomreyn> kzootech: you could try WaylandEnable=false in gdm3.conf, maybe that'll give you the graphical login manager. but if this helps then it's still unclear why Wayland would not work while Xorg would.
[00:10] <tomreyn> do you have custom configurations in /etc/modprobe.d/ by chance? does    cat /proc/cmdline     list kernel parameters other than BOOT_IMAGE=... and root=... now?
[01:07] <minist3r> Can I switch kernels just by replacing the one in folder in /lib/modules?
[01:19] <tomreyn> minist3r: you switch kernels by rebooting (or, very rarely, kexec)
[01:21] <tomreyn> minist3r: and the kernel images which get loaded during boot are located in /boot
[01:35] <mybalzitch> and you "should" let it all be handled by the package manager, not manual intervention
[01:44] <tomreyn> could also use grub-reboot
[01:47] <kzootech> tomreyn: this is just from a live usb image at this point
[01:47] <kzootech> i had to go to a thing, but im probably going to actually install 22.04 now because it seems like a solvable problem
[04:20] <reiman> list
[04:25] <douglasbrito> hello
[04:26] <douglasbrito> me help
[04:26] <arraybolt3[m]> douglasbrito: Hello! How can we help you?
[04:27] <douglasbrito> my linux only recognizes 8 gb of ram the total is 16 on windows and bios recognizes 16, debian is 64 bits
[04:28] <arraybolt3[m]> douglasbrito: How are you getting your info? Could you open a terminal and run "free | nc termbin.com 9999" and give the link it spits out? This will give me accurate info about your system's RAM.
[04:29] <douglasbrito> https://pastebin.com/inpgXJAz
[04:29] <arraybolt3[m]> douglasbrito: I'm sorry, but dmidecode won't necessarily give me the correct data. The command "free | nc termbin.com 9999" will.
[04:30] <arraybolt3[m]> However, skimming over the dmidecode data, it looks like you have two 8 GiB sticks of RAM installed in two different slots, which would add up to 16 GiB. Still, the "free" command will let me verify.
[04:31] <arraybolt3[m]> Oh wait, I see the free data at the bottom. Never mind, sorry.
[04:31] <douglasbrito> https://pastebin.com/GqXLAbfD
[04:34] <douglasbrito> arraybolt3[m], https://pastebin.com/GqXLAbfD
[04:34] <douglasbrito> have idea to fix ?
[04:34] <arraybolt3[m]> douglasbrito: This might sound silly, but some Linux users have reported being able to fix the problem by opening up their system, removing the RAM sticks, and reinstalling them.
[04:36] <arraybolt3[m]> douglasbrito: Also, looks like your sticks are installed in slots 1 and 3? That's sorta odd, you might try installing them into slots 0 and 1 instead (your motherboard may have markings to tell you what slot is what). Sometimes motherboards can get confused if you don't have the RAM installed in the right slots.
[04:49] <douglasbrito> arraybolt3[m], no fix
[04:50] <douglasbrito> other idea ?
[05:09] <arraybolt3[m]> douglasbrito: Try running "sudo nano /etc/default/grub" and change the line that says GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="mem=16G". Then press Ctrl+S to save, Ctrl+X to exit, then run "sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg" and reboot.
[05:30] <slingamn_> i'm using the Ubuntu 22.04 desktop live USB but I want to start the Wayland session to test something
[05:30] <slingamn_> i remember i asked about this before but unfortunately i forgot the solution
[05:31] <arraybolt3[m]> slingamn_: Wayland is default in Ubuntu 22.04.
[05:31] <slingamn_> arraybolt3: not on the live USB, it boots into Xorg
[05:31] <slingamn_> it was to remove compatibility issues during the installation iirc
[05:31] <arraybolt3[m]> Oh, OK. Let me see...
[05:35] <arraybolt3[m]> slingamn_: Try these instructions: https://linux-tips.us/how-to-use-wayland-in-a-live-ubuntu-instance/
[05:40] <slingamn_> thanks! that worked and i was able to confirm the issue!
[05:41] <arraybolt3[m]> slingamn_: Nice! Hey, if it's a bug in Ubuntu, you may want to file a bug on Launchpad.net, or you can give me details of the bug and I can try to replicate and report it.
[05:42] <slingamn_> i think it's working as expected --- they deliberately made the install environment Xorg-only because of some compatibility problems
[05:42] <arraybolt3[m]> Ah, that makes sense.
[05:42] <slingamn_> then once the system is installed it will default to Wayland, unless some hardware incompatibility is detected
[06:50] <elnegro> hi. question: i've installed kernel 5.18.8 using mainline
[06:50] <elnegro> now when i try to install new nvidia drivers, when building dmks kernel driver
[06:50] <elnegro> i have an error saying that the compiler version does not match
[06:50] <elnegro> i see the drivers try to use gcc 11.3 but i have currently installed gcc 11.2
[06:50] <elnegro> how do i upgrade to this version
[06:50] <elnegro> i did not find a repository containing this version
[06:50] <elnegro> thaks for your time.
[06:52] <arraybolt3[m]> elnegro: Sadly, Ubuntu does not support the use of a mainline kernel, and I believe this is because of exactly these sort of problems. Is there a particular reason you need to be using the mainline kernel?
[06:54] <arraybolt3[m]> elnegro: It appears that Ubuntu 22.10 (Kinetic Kudu) will ship with at least GCC 11.3, so if you're willing to wait until October, you may be able to do what you're trying to do at that point. (Technically, you can install Ubuntu 22.10 now, but it's in alpha testing and development and is liable to break at any moment, so I don't recommend that.)
[06:55] <arraybolt3[m]> elnegro: Also is there some reason that you're not able to simply use the nVidia drivers that are already in the Ubuntu repositories?
[06:58] <elnegro> 1) using mainline because wanted to try stability of latest kernel versions with sofware developed in my company, 2) because drivers in the repositories give me errors too
[07:00] <arraybolt3[m]> elnegro: That makes sense. What you might try is using the normal HWE kernel in Ubuntu, and then running a virtual machine that you install the mainline kernel into. Unless your software requires 3d graphics acceleration, that may solve your problem entirely.
[07:00] <arraybolt3[m]> elnegro: You can run virtual machines using GNOME Boxes, which you can install by opening a terminal and running "sudo apt install gnome-boxes".
[07:01] <arraybolt3[m]> elnegro: (If your system is older, you may have to enable virtualization support in your BIOS before you can run VMs, but it should be relatively easy, and newer systems may have virtualization enabled by default.)
[07:06] <elnegro> thanks for the tips,i'll try with virtual machines, last time my teami tried (couple yeas ago as i understand) but had some problems (have to ask to give me the details) maybe the problemssolved with time
[07:55] <gatsbylove> Hi
[08:00] <gatsbylove> Please guy I mistakenly delete /usr/local/share/application instead of applications folder which I created now when I reboot… tty1 and 2, 4 and 5 doesn’t work. I have tried to install Ubuntu-desktop
[08:00] <gatsbylove> The problem still persists… how do I get it back to normal without loosing files?
[08:09] <gatsbylove> Hi
[08:09] <gatsbylove> Please guy I mistakenly deleted /usr/local/share/application instead of applications folder which I created now when I reboot… tty1 and 2, 4 and 5 doesn’t work. I have tried to install Ubuntu-desktop
[08:12] <gatsbylove> Please any solution
[08:19] <Veles> gatsbylove: Are you sure it's /usr/local/share ? Isn't it /usr/share ?
[08:23] <Veles> Gatewayy: Can you run "dpkg -S /usr/local/share/application" to list packages that need that directory? I'm following > https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/hneu4m/i_overwrite_usrshareapplication_file_by_accident/
[08:23] <Veles> Gatewayy: sorry, wrong person, he actually left..
[08:26] <gatsbylove> Veles: I just did ls /usr/share
[08:26] <gatsbylove> It exists
[08:28] <Veles> gatsbylove: Can you run "dpkg -S /usr/local/share/application" to list packages that need that directory? I'm following > https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/hneu4m/i_overwrite_usrshareapplication_file_by_accident/
[08:31] <gatsbylove> Actually it’s /usr/local/share/application I deleted this file by accident and gui can’t load just tty3 and tty6 I have reinstalled Ubuntu-desktop still same issue
[08:32] <Veles> gatsbylove: "dpkg -S /usr/local/share/application" ?
[08:34] <gatsbylove> Bel es: no path found matching /usr/local/share/application
[08:35] <gatsbylove> Veles: path doesn’t exist
[08:35] <Veles> gatsbylove: Then I don't know. It says that no package used /usr/local/share/application ..
[08:37] <gatsbylove> Anyway to reinstall from terminal without loosing existing files and without livecd?
[08:42] <Veles> gatsbylove: Maybe someone else can help you better. You may use the following, though, at your own risk: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/79165/123124
[08:56] <Veles> gatsbylove: did you get my message?
[11:50] <elbo> Hello everyone. I am trying to setup ID 27c6:5503 Shenzhen Goodix Technology Co.,Ltd. Goodix FingerPrint Device and have read many guides about setting up an unsupported finger print device. I currently can't use it so I thought about asking for help here. Any suggestions? Should I surrender and have my fingerprint reader not working?
[11:51] <KBar> elbo: hi and welcome. Could you please share the output of `lsb_release -rd`? Thanks.
[11:52] <floown> Hellobuntu. When I enter : sudo fdisk -l  the result doesn’t display the amount of free Go on the partitions. Does exist a parameter to have that, or another command?
[11:52] <elbo> Hi KBar Description:	Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
[11:52] <elbo> Release:	22.04
[11:52] <elbo>  this is the output
[11:53] <floown> Oh sorry, I have found somethings : df -h
[12:07] <Xeroine> I have a 512 MB RAM VPS with Ubuntu 22.04 LTS. I used a VPS template to install (didn't go through the installer myself) and on first boot it was working but after an "apt upgrade && apt upgrade" I'm getting a kernal panic. could this be because of the low amount of RAM? could this be because initramfs can't be loaded into RAM because there's too little space?
[12:07] <oerheks> if your fingerprint device is not listed here, https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui  or https://fprint.freedesktop.org/supported-devices.html
[12:07] <oerheks> then no go
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> elbo^
[12:09] <KBar> Xeroine: 512 mb should be plenty for initram, i reckon
[12:10] <Xeroine> oh
[12:10] <KBar> however for everything else.. not so much
[12:10] <Xeroine> it's saying "Kernel panic - not syncing: System is deadlocked on memory"
[12:12] <Xeroine> I uninstalled snap if that matters
[12:13] <KBar> Xeroine: you could try the previous kernel. Reboot, press and hold Shift to enter the GRUB menu and select the previous one
[12:13] <Xeroine> already did, same thing
[12:14] <Xeroine> the rescue options as well
[12:14] <KBar> Xeroine: i think you meant 'apt update && apt upgrade' but anyway, what exactly got upgraded?
[12:15] <KBar> you can try downgrading, if wasnt too many packages
[12:15] <Xeroine> yeah right. I don't remember, didn't really pay attention
[12:15] <KBar> Xeroine: enter rescue mode, look in your /var/log/apt/history.log
[12:16] <KBar> in your favorite pager or just tail -n20 or whatever last lines
[12:16] <Xeroine> https://bpa.st/TOPQ
[12:18] <oerheks> Purge: ubuntu-server-minimal:amd64 ...?
[12:18] <Xeroine> oh, I didn't purge that. guess it must've been the upgrade then
[12:19] <Xeroine> or maybe it got removed with snap?
[12:19] <KBar> it was your command
[12:19] <Xeroine> yeah
[12:19] <KBar> not package manager.
[12:19] <oerheks> yes, removing snapd triggered that
[12:20] <Xeroine> so I can't run ubuntu without snap?
[12:20] <Xeroine> I assumed it's possible, there's posts on askubuntu and other places about this
[12:27] <Xeroine> okay... guess not
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> yes thats possible Xeroine
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> Xeroine: https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/remove-snap-block-ubuntu-2204/
[12:57] <elbo> thanks oerheks, then is a no go. Any hopes they will be included in dewer patches of ubuntu? I have a new thinkpad E15 and neither face recognition or fingerprint are working to login and is a comfy feature to have
[13:01] <elbo> I have another question, this should be an easy one for you. Since i usually reset my pc often i managed to auto sync files that I'm interested on having on a new installation, but every time i format i have ro manually install every program on my pc. Can i automate the installation in some way? Do I need a shell script?
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> elbo: sudo apt install program1 program2 program3 works pretty fast
[13:03] <elbo> ok I might track down changes and use apt and a script to restore the settings then. Thx lotuspsychje
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> elbo: we used to have aptoncd, not sure what people use for alternate these days
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> and there's also;
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> !backup
[13:47] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:51] <wez> hi BluesKaj!  How are you this fine evening?
[13:55] <ogra> Xeroine, lotuspsychje_, on Ubuntu Server the installer comes as a snap package, removing snaps there is rathr a bad idea ... (also, snapd doesnt actually occupy a lot extra ram, nor do the packages) ...
[13:55] <BluesKaj> hi wez, doing fine here, and you?
[13:56] <lotuspsychje_> ogra: ah ok, i wasnt paying attention he asked for -server
[13:57] <lotuspsychje_> ogra: on server its just lxd snap right?
[13:57] <ogra> and the installer (subiquity) itself ...
[13:57] <lotuspsychje_> i see
[13:57] <ogra> the RAM issu is rather caused by the installer requiring to mount the iso as tmpfs
[13:57] <ogra> *issue
[13:58] <wez> BluesKaj: I want to use the latest LTS Ubuntu however I am waiting for the first patch release.  Is that out now? Or coming soon?
[13:58] <lotuspsychje_> august wez
[13:58] <wez> Thank you lotuspsychje_!
[14:01] <BluesKaj> August 4
[14:02] <wez> Great, I will upgrade my server then
[14:03] <lotuspsychje_> wez: you might also wanna read the !jammy releasenotes
[14:06] <wez> lotuspsychje_: I would love to
[14:09] <hackinghorn> my ubuntu is saying "Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is available" "Would you like to upgrade?" . Does upgrading keep my files?
[14:09] <murmel> hackinghorn: yes, but to be sure, back up your data
[14:09] <hackinghorn> arg, that makes sense
[14:09] <hackinghorn> thanks
[14:09] <murmel> on the other hand, why are you getting the upgrade notice oO
[14:09] <arraybolt3[m]> hackinghorn: Yes, BUT, release upgrades have a tendency to go wrong, so it's vital that you back up your data before upgrading.
[14:09] <arraybolt3[m]> murmel: He might be on Ubuntu 21.10.
[14:10] <murmel> arraybolt3[m]: oh yeah, forgot that they get the notice earlier
[14:10] <hackinghorn> oh you're right, I'm on 21.10
[14:11] <arraybolt3[m]> hackinghorn: Ubuntu 21.10 hits end of support in about two weeks, so the upgrade is probably a good idea, but have all your data backed up and be prepared to do a clean install in the event something goes wrong during the upgrade.
[14:11] <hackinghorn> wew, such nuisance, I see
[14:11] <murmel> hackinghorn: it's just to make sure that, if the upgrade fails, you lose nothing.
[14:12] <murmel> if you don't care about your data, just go ahead :P
[14:12] <arraybolt3[m]> Yeah, it is annoying. I'm still holding on for dear life to an Ubuntu 21.10 laptop because I don't want to update it. LOL
[14:12] <hackinghorn> ah, thankss lol
[14:12] <wez> Is tomreyn a bot?
[14:12] <murmel> no wez
[14:12] <arraybolt3[m]> wez: No, he's an operator.
[14:13] <wez> OK, thank you.
[14:13] <arraybolt3[m]> wez: And he probably will find out you just said that.
[14:13] <murmel> arraybolt3[m]: that's why I only ever use LTS releases
[14:13] <wez> arraybolt3[m]: That's fine :)
[14:13] <arraybolt3[m]> murmel: The laptop had a crummy iGPU that refused to work with 20.04 :-(
[14:13] <murmel> arraybolt3[m]: which gpu are you talking about?
[14:14] <arraybolt3[m]> murmel: Intel 2nd gen iGPU. Only booted in safe graphics mode on 20.04, booted normally on 21.10. It's a modded Chromebook.
[14:15] <murmel> arraybolt3[m]: ahh, hope it works on 22.04 then
[15:22] <randy> Hello everybody
[15:23] <tomreyn> Hello randy
[15:24] <randy> How do I add the KDE Plasma desktop to Bodhi 6.0?
[15:24] <tomreyn> randy: we only support ubuntu here
[15:24] <enigma9o7[m]> sudo apt install plasma-desktop
[15:25] <randy> I started my Linux journey with Ubuntu
[15:27] <randy> I'm trying different distros, but I'm still on the learning curve!  I'm glad I made the chice to switch to Linux!
[15:27] <oerheks> step 2 in your journey, find the bodhi irc channel
[15:27] <wez> randy: I started with Redhat then Mandrake, Slackware, Suse, Debian, Ubuntu, AmazonLinux2 and AlpineLinux
[15:27] <tomreyn> you can usually get help with other linux distros in #linux - if there's someone around who knows the one you chose to use
[15:28] <randy> Is Mandrake still around?
[15:28] <tomreyn> !ot
[15:28] <wez> randy: It was renamed to mandriva last I heard.
[15:28] <randy> OK
[15:29] <randy> I still get a lot of good information in this chat
[15:47] <hans_> a fairly fresh Ubuntu 22.04 server install and "sudo su" is super slow, like 5+ seconds hang before it ask for the password
[15:47] <hans_> well, SOMETIMES super slow and sometimes it goes instantly
[15:48] <hans_> reminds me if that ssh login reverse dns lookup hang tbh
[15:48] <hans_> s/if/of
[15:49] <enigma9o7[m]> It probably behaves the same in regards to your reported issue, but have you tried using "sudo -i" instead, I've been told its somehow better than sudo su anyway.
[15:49] <oerheks> +1
[15:52] <oerheks> some read; https://www.maketecheasier.com/differences-between-su-sudo-su-sudo-s-sudo-i/
[15:52] <hans_> that brings back some old memories of how Debian and Ubuntu treats "sudo -i" differently, one of them loads root's environment variables on that command and the other does not, or something, while "sudo su" works the same on both Debian and Ubuntu, so i stuck with the consistent one
[15:52] <hans_> but last time i experienced that was probably like Debian 7 vs Ubuntu 16.04
[15:52] <hans_> (and ive just been using "sudo su" since)
[15:53] <oerheks> so, is "sudo -i" swift compared with -su ?
[15:53] <hans_> haven't tested, sec
[15:54] <hans_> nope, still got the same hang with sudo -i   (also it's "sudo su" not "sudo -su")
[15:55] <hans_> aaalso seems its 10 seconds, not "5+ seconds"
[15:56] <hans_> and for some reason i can't use strace to see what syscall (if any) it's hanging on
[15:56] <hans_> cus   strace sudo -i    doesn't work
[15:56] <hans_> does  strace sudo -i   work for anyone else?
[15:57] <hans_> see a suspicious message in strace tho, write(2, "effective uid is not 0, is /usr/"..., 133effective uid is not 0, is /usr/bin/sudo on a file system with the 'nosuid' option set or an NFS file system without root privileges?) = 133
[15:58] <hans_> anyone else here on 22.04? does your sudo hang?
[15:59] <tomreyn> if sudo is slow to return, it's usually due to a resolver misconfiguration, i.e. /etc/hosts or /etc/hostname records are wrong / can't be resolved.
[15:59] <hans_> ohhhhh yeah that's probably it! cus i messed with /etc/hostname but forgot to update /etc/hosts
[16:00] <hans_> hmm what is the correct way to set a hostname?=
[16:00] <tomreyn> possibly hostnamectl
[16:01] <hans_> huh, hostnamectl hostname FOO  doesn't update /etc/hosts
[16:01] <oerheks> !host
[16:02] <hans_> anyway updating the hostname in /etc/hosts fixed it! thanks
[16:02] <hans_> (<IP_ADDRESS> HOSTNAME)
[16:02] <oerheks> good spot, tomreyn
[16:15] <hans_> why does sudo want to resolve the local hostname anyway?
[16:23] <rfm> hans_, because one can match on the hostname in the sudoers file.  People at least used to have centrally administered networks and would maintain a single sudoers file and push it to all the machines in the net.  One might want to grant a user privileges on one machine but not all.
[16:29] <gneeriiloeepdeer> is this the appropriate channel to ask what the newest youtube-dl version is and where to get it?
[16:30] <oerheks> try github?
[16:33] <alkisg> minist3r1: did you solve the issues with armbian? I just installed Armbian_22.05.4_Rockpro64_jammy_current_5.15.48_xfce_desktop.img and hw accel is working and everything is fast, but I've no HDMI sound; would you mind joining the #armbian channel to discuss about this?
[16:41] <jhutchins> hans_: It also restricts privileges for <user>@<specific host> differently than <sameuser>@<other host> - so your privileges are different depending on where you connect from.
[16:41] <jhutchins> hans_: F'r instance, maybe if you connect from a host within the datacenter you get full root access, but if you connect from the external web you only get ftp.
[16:47] <hans_> gotit thanks
[16:47] <hans_> btw seems /etc/ld.so.preload is broken for snap-packages on 22.04
[16:48] <hans_> the snap package loads the outer ld.so.preload then try to load the inner actual lib file
[16:48] <hans_> resulting in this error for snap packages, >ERROR: ld.so: object '/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeatmydata.so' from /etc/ld.so.preload cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.
[16:54] <rfm> hans_, doesn'
[16:55] <rfm> hans_, doesn't sound like a bug to me, in general confined snaps can't run arbitrary binaries from outside the snap...
[16:56] <hans_> rfm: in that case i don't think snap packages should try to load the ld.so.preload from outside the snap either?
[16:58] <p9> how can I give snap access to a drive mounted under /mnt through fstab? connecting :removable-media plug only allows access to udisks-mounted media
[16:58] <mickey> trying to get the latest zoom-client but snap only has an earlier version that's not working properly with wayland. i'd rather not get the package directly from zoom because it'll just make it harder to update later on
[17:01] <tomreyn> mickey: as far as i know, you just discussed all the options there are.
[17:02] <p9> is there a snapd channel somewhere on libera?
[17:02] <tomreyn> mickey: there's also a flatpak btw.
[17:03] <tomreyn> p9: there's #snapcraft for snap developers
[17:05] <rfm> hans_, would seem hard to avoid, the snap would have to mount over /etc/ and surely that would break even more stuff.  why on earth are you using /etc/ld.so.preload anyway?  It looks like a malware vector to me...
[17:05] <mickey> tomreyn are snap, flatpak, etc. updated as part of the software center?
[17:05] <mickey> or do i have to start updating each platform manually every time now?
[17:06] <tomreyn> mickey: snaps will get updates through snapd / systemd automatically whether or not you use software center.
[17:07] <hans_> rfm: using it to globally load libeatmydata on to speed up tests, https://github.com/stewartsmith/libeatmydata#readme
[17:07] <tomreyn> flatpaks would only get updates if you used gnomes' classic software center with the flatpak pluin (which is a package acailable via apt, i think)
[17:07] <tomreyn> or you could probably create a systemd timer to install flatpak updates automatically.
[17:07] <mickey> tomreyn i don't see anything like that under apt?
[17:09] <tomreyn> mickey: i think there's a flatpak PPA you'd need to add for that to become available. i seem to remember "alexlarsson"
[17:09] <KBar> mickey: its gnome-software-plugin-flatpak
[17:09] <enigma9o7[m]> gnome-software-plugin-flatpak
[17:09] <KBar> & g-s-p-snap
[17:09] <tomreyn> actually, enigma9o7[m] is right, this is availbale from universe
[17:10] <mickey> KBar yeah, that's there. i also see one for snap.
[17:10] <tomreyn> + KBar, too :)
[17:10] <enigma9o7[m]> or plasma-discover-backend-flatpak
[17:11] <mickey> enigma9o7[m] you've managed to confuse me. what's the difference there?
[17:11] <KBar> mickey: plasma is KDE
[17:11] <KBar> discover is kde's store
[17:11] <enigma9o7[m]> One by gnome, one by kde, both do the same thing.
[17:12] <mickey> thanks.
[17:13] <rfm> hans_, argh.  do you realize by putting eatmydata in /etc/ld.so.preload it's making everything on the system write unsafely?  if you want to use this scary thing, set LD_PRELOAD before the test runs (and don't expect to test snaps in this mode)
[17:18] <hans_> fwiw "unsafely" mean that it skips fsync(), yeah i realize that it skips fsync
[17:20] <hans_> wish there was some easy-ish way to tell the kernel "ey ignore userland fsync requests", but there isn't afaik
[17:22] <hans_> eatmydata reduce the mysql testsuite runtime by roughly 46% ~
[17:30] <tomreyn> not keeping backups saves a lot of processing time and power.
[17:35] <rfm> hans_, should be able to set LD_PRELOAD in the user running the test suite and set up a systemd dropin to set it in the mysql daemon processes (I assume it has them, not something I've looked at)
[17:47] <hans_> i'm sure it's possible, but don't care, this whole system is for tests, preferably fast, there are no durability requirements ^^
[17:48] <hans_> (and i won't use eatmydata when work on production systems)
[18:33] <g33k_> Hi, where I could find information on archive.ubuntu.com, if it's down in some countries?
[18:34] <ravage> works fine here. can you ping it?
[18:38] <KBar> g33k_: hey, no problem from my side.
[18:40] <jhutchins> !host archive.ubuntu.com
[18:40] <jhutchins> Ah well.
[18:41] <jhutchins> archive.ubuntu.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:41] <jhutchins> archive.ubuntu.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:41] <jhutchins> archive.ubuntu.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:41] <jhutchins> Or, if you prefer IPV6,
[18:41] <jhutchins> 2~archive.ubuntu.com has IPv6 address 2001:67c:1562::15
[18:41] <jhutchins> archive.ubuntu.com has IPv6 address 2620:2d:4000:1::16
[18:41] <jhutchins> archive.ubuntu.com has IPv6 address 2620:2d:4000:1::19
[18:42] <jhutchins> If those are all blocked you'll need a VPN, that's not in any way controlled by any of the Ubuntu volunteers.
[18:43] <jhutchins> g33k_: Note that if those _do_ work, you can put one of them in your hosts file.
[18:51] <g33k_> archive.ubuntu.com works form en.archive.ubuntu.com also works
[18:52] <g33k_> but there are some countries that doesn't work any more
[18:52] <g33k_> so I just wanted to know if there are maintenance works or if it's depreciated
[18:54] <ravage> g33k_, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[18:55] <oerheks> some countries, like india, often shut down university mirrors during holidays.
[18:56] <g33k_> thanks ravage, that's what I was looking fot
[18:56] <g33k_> *for
[19:10] <jhutchins> Possibly the people who would be in charge of bringing the mirrors back up in case of an error are on break.
[19:10] <jhutchins> Then again, this weekend holiday is not by any means international.  Most of the world it's business as usual.
[19:35] <de-facto> https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/en/man1/dvbv5-scan.1.html
[19:35] <de-facto> "dvbv5-scan /usr/share/dvbv5/dvb-c/the-brownfox" <-- where do i get those files from?
[19:36] <de-facto> is that package incomplete or such?
[19:38] <KBar> de-facto: it is an example, as stated in the man page. to see the list of installed files, run `dpkg -L PCK_NAME`
[19:39] <de-facto> yeah i did
[19:39] <de-facto> nothing
[19:39] <de-facto> that directory tree does not even exist
[19:40] <de-facto> wild guess: is it in dtv-scan-tables possibly or is that not related at all?
[19:44] <KBar> de-facto: grab the source: https://linuxtv.org/downloads/v4l-utils/v4l-utils-1.22.1.tar.bz2 and have a look inside
[19:47] <oerheks> its a freebie Service The Quick Brown Fox etc are scanned, names of digital television providers
[19:48] <oerheks> Hilarious
[20:45] <surskit> hello, I'm trying to preset the installer user password in subiquity so I can complete the installation on a headless machine (no keyboard or display) like on this post: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1389280/preconfiguring-ssh-password-for-server-installer
[20:46] <surskit> I'm struggling to figure out where this autoinstall file should be put though
[20:46] <surskit> I was hoping I could put it on the usb I've burned from the iso
[21:13] <gneeriiloeepdeer> after a power cut one app is working strangely. Will I solve it if I reinstall it?
[21:14] <tomreyn> surskit: the best pleace to ask questions about subiquity is probably #ubuntu-server
[21:14] <surskit> ok will do, thanks
[21:19] <tomreyn> surskit: i'll try to give at least basic info here, though: autoinstall documentation: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/autoinstall  cloudinit explanation of how to do ds=nocloud : https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/datasources/nocloud.html - the other important bit would be "You can provide meta-data and user-data to a local vm boot via files on a vfat or iso9660 filesystem. The filesystem volume label must be cidata or
[21:19] <tomreyn> CIDATA." - or through http/https from a separate webserver with nocloud-net
[21:25] <tomreyn> surskit: https://community.theforeman.org/t/autoinstalling-ubuntu-server-20-04-3-from-the-live-iso/27050 would explain how to do a network (PXE) boot with all configuration residing on the other computer.
[21:26] <tomreyn> (foreman is an OS deployment software used for setting up many servers in a (company) network with central configuration.)
[21:34] <jdmark> 22.04 is nice and polished!
[21:34] <jdmark> great job
[21:35] <jdmark> better than windows 10!
[21:36] <morganu> Is it a different download now than it was a month or so ago jdmark ?  -- I downloaded it but didnt install it.  - oh the online upgrades fix that, dont they. My mind nears Truth.
[21:45] <LambdaComplex> I just got a new ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 9 and installed Ubuntu 22.04 LTS on it. I'm wanting to get a dock so that I can easily connect multiple monitors + mouse/keyboard/etc. Am I going to run into any compatibility issues due to using Linux? Or will the dock just work?
[21:55] <jhutchins> LambdaComplex: Probably?  Maybe?  How could you know unless someone else had the same laptop, the same dock, and the same peripherals?
[21:55] <jhutchins> LambdaComplex: They'd havee to publish the fact somewhere, and nobody ever posts when something just works.  They only post to complain.
[21:56] <jhutchins> LambdaComplex: I guess the best bet is to by from a source that lets you return stuff.
[21:56] <LambdaComplex> jhutchins: how could i know? by asking. which is what i'm doing here
[21:58] <LambdaComplex> (and, at least going by what's listed as supported on lenovo's website, there's only two docks for this specific laptop. maybe other ones actually will work? i don't know enough about docks to have any clue tbh)
[22:03] <transhumanist> hi so I have a philips HDTv for a second monitor. has an annoying problem where the top inch of the desktop is cut off, is there a way in Ubuntu 22.04 to tell a dual monitor setup to shrink one monitor down by an inch?
[22:05] <LambdaComplex> is Ubuntu using the correct screen resolution for the tv?
[22:05] <LambdaComplex> i'm also wondering if the tv has some setting to compress the image vertically/horizontally and you need to screw with that. i know CRTs used to have that....can't say I've needed to check for it in the last decade+ though
[22:06] <transhumanist> tv answer is no it has a 4:3 option but its greyed out not sure why
[22:07] <transhumanist> its the only resolution that I can select besides a reall really low resolution its a 1080p monitor, its crap, but its the only secondary monitor that I have
[22:07] <transhumanist> I found this, but its for the rasberry pi https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=289559
[22:08] <transhumanist> do I perhaps add those lines to my kernel line?
[22:08] <transhumanist> my other monitor is hdmi - so i see some danger in the options that fix lists
[22:29] <tomreyn> LambdaComplex: classic "(laptop) docking stations" use hardware manufacturers' proprietary interfaces to extend a laptops connectors by additional ones, sometimes also adding additional hardware components (such as a USB hub, external graphics card etc.).
[22:30] <transhumanist> rebooting, trying something, bbl
[22:31] <LambdaComplex> tomreyn: as far as i can tell, this uses thunderbolt 3
[22:31] <LambdaComplex> https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/accessories-and-software/docking/docking_usb-docks-(universal-cable-docks)/40af0135us
[22:32] <tomreyn> LambdaComplex: other than that, you always had USB hubs which could also include additional devices, such as an SD card reader, nowadays, with USB-C also transporting video signals, those have extended to broader functionality.
[22:33] <tomreyn> no mention of thunderbolt there
[22:34] <tomreyn> LambdaComplex: what's the functionality you seek?
[22:36] <LambdaComplex> re: thunderbolt, the laptop specs list the two ports that look like USB-C as "Thunderbolt 4" https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadx1/x1-carbon-gen9/22tp2x1x1c9
[22:36] <LambdaComplex> tomreyn: i want to connect two external monitors + a handful of USB devices
[22:36] <LambdaComplex> (mouse, keyboard, webcam, headphones)
[22:43] <tomreyn> LambdaComplex: i can't seem to find out whether this "40AF0135US" docking station is fully supported on linux. you'd need to try. the features you're looking for could probably also be provided by a generic usb-c docking station.
[22:46] <LambdaComplex> tomreyn: certainly sounds worth looking into! thanks for the help
[23:45] <jerome-> is it possible to simulate having 2 ethernet port on one physical port? I have an adsl line and a 5g connection on the same ethernet cable (with 2 different subnets). I would like my computer to do traceroute/ping/speedtest on one connection and the other. I would prefer to not reconfigure the ethernet port to switch from one to the other connection
[23:48] <jerome-> I know how to do an alias ip, but I can't set another default gateway for the alias
[23:48] <ravage> jerome-, try #networking
[23:49] <jerome-> thanks


[01:37] <JanC> zub: AFAIK some version of the Ubuntu SDK will still be used...
[07:58] <zub> JanC: thanks for reply
[07:58] <zub> I'm asking because I've found some bug. So I will report it.
[13:12] <andywork> do I need an app or something in order to backup text messages on my ubuntu phone?
[14:23] <Walex> andywork: good question, I was wondering myself. I haven't looked yet, but it is a UNIX/Linux system, so most likely the messages are just in a file or set of files, and we can just backup that.
[18:11] <kml> hi
[19:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[19:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> anyone about?
[19:52] <popey> sure
[19:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> popey, yay codecs!
[19:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> got a video
[19:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> it's a mp4
[19:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wanted to play on the tablet, but  get sound, and no picture
[19:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> really going to need a lap top or something to play it properly ?
[19:53] <popey> probably
[19:53] <popey> hard to know without knowing the codec
[19:53] <popey> we don't ship all codecs
[19:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> popey, exactly that's what I thought so
[19:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> like with desktop ubuntu
[19:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and most other distros to
[19:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> since the legal issues
[19:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> popey, shame OGG and FLAC hasn't taken over the world


[03:29] <kRush> is there a way to control power management on amd cards with the proprietary drivers?
[03:31] <kRush> I'm watching a flash video and everything just runs on fricking maximum clocks >:(
[04:35] <knuckleball> If you are a dev in here, thanks! I brought this laptop back to life with xubuntu!
[05:46] <shaggy> i has a question about xubuntu as im a first time user
[05:47] <shaggy> can xbuntu boot and run without a monitor?
[05:47] <shaggy> it seems that ubuntu freaks out about it
[05:47] <Unit193> It's not a normal use case, but AFAIK it can just fine.  Try it live?
[05:49] <shaggy> see with windows i konw you can. i would have thought linux was them same ?
[05:49] <shaggy> *know
[05:49] <holstein> shaggy: i do it often.. "headless".. xubuntu *is* ubuntu, and both should be able to do it
[05:49] <holstein> shaggy: how does it work from a live CD as Unit193 suggested?
[05:50] <shaggy> see im runing desktop and when i have tryed it i get a message about screen issues
[05:50] <shaggy> im still downloading my copy as i type
[05:50] <holstein> shaggy: how? what message? if its a bios screen, thast pre-os
[05:51] <holstein> shaggy: i literally unplug the monitor, and just run them headless.. occasionally i have to mess about with the bios
[05:51] <Unit193> And if it's complaining about DISPLAY not set, then you can get that with a monitor hookedup.
[05:51] <shaggy> what happens is that ubuntu loads up then you get a low graphics card error and it wont go pas thta if you dont have a monitor plugged in
[05:52] <holstein> shaggy: you can just force the vesa driver.. i have just put xorg.conf files in place forcing the vesa driver
[05:53] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209 for example
[05:53] <shaggy> Unit193: i dont whant to have a monitor that is the whole point and i dont want to have to plug one in and out. i have my PC set to trun on after say a blackout so i dont whant to plug a monitor in and out after that
[05:53] <holstein> i would want something like xfce that doesnt require 3d like unity does. but, maing ubuntu will do it
[05:54] <holstein> shaggy: what the issue is, is, you will have the same issue you are having with or without a monitor plugged in
[05:54] <shaggy> holstein: i have tried the VESA driver as i run teamviewer so i can try and tell if it has booted and after chaneing xorg it hangs
[05:55] <shaggy> holstein: works with vesa drivers if monitor is pluged in
[05:55] <holstein> shaggy: with the vesa driver, after booting, at it "fails", and you plug a monitor back in, whats going on?
[05:56] <shaggy> i shall do it now
[05:56] <shaggy> with u guys here
[05:57] <shaggy> 2 x pcs
[05:57] <holstein> shaggy: while you are rebooting, check the bios for "stop during" whatever options
[05:57] <shaggy> holstein: bios is fine as i was doing this with windows before
[05:58] <holstein> shaggy: if you dont mind, check it, ok?
[05:58] <shaggy> holstein: pc has been booted brb kettle
[05:58] <shaggy> ok will do
[06:01] <shaggy> holstein: bios is set to halt on no errors
[06:02] <shaggy> so bios wont halt. pc should have booted by now but nothing
[06:02] <holstein> shaggy: OK.. so, plug a monitor in,a nd see what it says, if anything.. and consider setting up ssh on the machine so you can go in right now and look
[06:03] <shaggy> and moitor is blank
[06:03] <holstein> teamviewer is not going to help much in this case
[06:03] <holstein> shaggy: try tty
[06:03] <shaggy> lol i guessed that
[06:04] <shaggy> i shall setup ssh
[06:05] <shaggy> sudo apt-get install ssh ??
[06:05] <holstein> !ssh
[06:05] <holstein> !info openssh-server
[06:05] <shaggy> i have putty up on windows now
[06:05] <holstein> ^ sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[06:06] <Unit193> dropbear if you want one in your initramfs.
[06:06] <holstein> shaggy: you can always try a mini iso, or the server version.. its always "just worked" for me, though, i have had some issues settled in the bios or with the vesa driver
[06:06] <Unit193> I've booted headless no problems. :/
[06:07] <Unit193> shaggy: How do you know it's not up?
[06:07] <holstein> shaggy: i must sleep.. good luck
[06:07] <Unit193> sleep well, holstein.
[06:08] <shaggy> chher for help thus far
[06:09] <shaggy> Unit193: do u plug a monitor in then once booted unplug ?
[06:09] <Unit193> Normally it's in all the time, but I have in the past booted without one entirely.  I'm wondering at what point is it stopping though.
[06:10] <shaggy> ssh is installed now so i will reboot and see
[06:13] <shaggy> Unit193:: its not even getting to a point where i can ssh into it
[06:15] <shaggy> will try xubuntu live
[06:21] <shaggy> ok live is booting up now
[06:30] <sisyphus> hello...does anyone here have any experience with the wolfram CDFplayer?  I have the desktop version that is available for linux and it is installed properly.  Now I am wondering how I download an embedded cdf file from a webpage so that I can view it in the desktop player. any advice would be helpful. google just tells me how to install it.
[06:37] <sisyphus> judging by the silence I can only deduce that I either asked a stupid question or asked it on the wrong channel.
[06:39] <elfy> or no-one is about who's got an answer :)
[06:39] <Unit193> sisyphus: First time hearing about whatever that is.  Can you look at the page source and see the embed link?  Would dwhelper (firefox addon) spot it?
[06:39] <Unit193> (General questions, I don't know)
[06:40] <xubuntu904> maybee this way might work
[06:40] <xubuntu904> live booted up ok
[06:44] <Unit193> \o/
[06:46] <sisyphus> hmmm. it appears that the file is not present in the source if the browser detects a lack of plugin. unfortunately the browser plugin only exists for windows and macOS.
[07:17] <braden_> Question - I have multiple workspaces enabled and whenever I try to drag a window to the side of the screen to "snap" it to half of the screen it wraps around to the next workspace. Is there any way to disable this behavior?
[07:19] <braden_> Ah, never mind, I got it. The setting is handled by the window manager.
[07:22] <xubuntu460> ciao
[07:23] <xubuntu460> posso fare una domanda??
[07:23] <xubuntu460> there is a person that can help me??
[07:24] <cfhowlett> xubuntu904, is English please
[07:24] <cfhowlett> !it
[07:33] <Shudorshon> hi
[07:33] <Shudorshon> having problem with hotot
[09:34] <Shaggy-89> hey all
[09:39] <Shaggy-89> how many people know hot to make xubuntu run with no monitor ?
[09:49] <baizon> Shaggy-89: for what purpose?
[09:50] <baizon> and what do you mean by "with no monitor"?
[09:50] <baizon> you can run xubuntu as a server for example
[09:50] <cfhowlett> Shaggy-89, sounds like a "headless server" thing - ask in #ubuntu-server
[14:00] <HarryRsole> Hi
[14:02] <HarryRsole> I'm having an issue with you tube videos not working, ie. green and pink picture.
[14:02] <HarryRsole> I tried the solutions that I found online but nothing seemed to work.
[14:22] <Sysi> HarryRsole: what did those solutions include?
[14:22] <Sysi> did you try right-cligking on video and disabling hardware acceleration in settings?
[14:23] <HarryRsole> Yeah, I was just about to say that.
[14:24] <HarryRsole> when I actually right clicked on the video itself I could barely make out the selection to disable hardware acceleration
[14:24] <HarryRsole> In chromium i disabled it in settings
[14:27] <Sysi> if you're using chromium you can try this http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/install-pepper-flash-player-for.html
[15:33] <xubuntu253> hi! why gentoo is so hard and ubuntu so nice?
[15:59] <uflaig> hello everyone, having a problem with autostart!
[16:00] <uflaig> I'm using synergy, and I see one entry for synergy in ~/.config/autostart for synergy, yet it autostarts 3 times
[16:01] <uflaig> I tried the awesome window manager and switched back to xfce, since then it starts like I said before 3 times
[16:02] <uflaig> does anyone have any ideas where I might find more autostart entries?
[16:04] <Sysi> try emptying ~/.cache/sessions
[16:05] <uflaig> Sysi: alright, rm ~/.cache/sessions
[16:06] <uflaig> I mean rm ~/.cache/sessions/*
[16:06] <uflaig> anyhow, need to restart to test it, brb!
[16:08] <bingo> hello. What is command to install xubuntu please?
[16:08] <uflaig> Sysi: I'm back, and I have to tell it worked, thanks a lot Sysi!
[16:10] <Sysi> uflaig: you're welcome
[16:10] <uflaig> : )
[16:10] <Sysi> bingo: on top of ubuntu? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[16:12] <bingo> okay ubuntu is fully updated. so i can just do the second?
[16:14] <Sysi> yup
[16:16] <bingo> ty
[18:29] <Shudorshon> does anyone know voyager linux official channel?
[18:29] <holstein> !voyager
[18:30] <holstein> hmm.. i thought we had one of those
[18:30] <Shudorshon> name?
[18:30] <holstein> Shudorshon: yes.. i'll just open a seach browser and find it... and give it to you.. please wait.. thanks
[18:30] <Shudorshon> ok kimusabi
[18:31]  * Shudorshon is waiting...
[18:33] <holstein> Shudorshon: http://voyager.legtux.org/index.php/a-propos-2/
[18:34] <Shudorshon> holstein,  is it their irc channel address?
[18:34] <holstein> Shudorshon: you can ask them at the above contact link..
[18:34] <holstein> Shudorshon: they may not have an irc channel.. and it may not be on freenode if they do..
[18:35] <Shudorshon> yeah i think they have no channel in freenode
[18:35] <elfy> dont forget we have a irc channel on freenode irc.freenode.net #voyage
[18:35] <elfy> http://list.voyage.hk/pipermail/voyage-linux/2012-January/021727.html
[18:35] <elfy> whether it's live or not is another question
[18:35] <Shudorshon> the voyage is not voyager os room, kimusabi
[18:36] <elfy> oh well :)
[18:36] <holstein> Shudorshon: you can use tab to autocomplete nicknames
[18:36] <Shudorshon> kimusabi means brother
[18:37] <Shudorshon> i hope u r a guy
[18:37] <holstein> Shudorshon: you can refer to volunteers by nick, and have no issues where hope is a concern
[18:38]  * Shudorshon smiles
[18:38]  * Shudorshon also wonders
[18:39] <Shudorshon> holstein,  do u know about hotot?
[18:39] <holstein> Shudorshon: you can also use the #xubuntu-offtopic channel for chat
[18:40] <Shudorshon> u dont know?
[18:41] <verdes> somebody has tried installing xubuntu wiht floppies?
[18:41] <holstein> Shudorshon: i have not used it
[18:42] <Shudorshon> holstein,  ok, im having a problem, can i ask u about it
[18:42] <Shudorshon> :)
[18:42] <holstein> verdes: not in many years.. nothing is preventing that, though, i would rather plug in external media or do a net install
[18:42] <holstein> !mini | verdes these iso's are smaller
[18:43] <holstein> Shudorshon: you just ask, generally.. and a volunteer in the channel may be able to help
[18:43] <Shudorshon> Shudorshon,  should i ask them mentioning their nick
[18:43] <Shudorshon> as u said
[18:44] <verdes> holstein: pc doesn't have cd reader and can't boot using usb; how to do net install?
[18:45] <holstein> verdes: i would take the hard drive to another machine, install, and move it back
[18:45] <holstein> !ask | Shudorshon
[18:46] <Shudorshon> ok
[18:46] <Shudorshon> in one sentence !
[18:47] <verdes> holstein: great advice, but I have actually an old laptop :)
[18:47] <Shudorshon> holstein,  but u know its hard to ask about a question in only one sentence
[18:48] <bazhang> Shudorshon, did you have an actual xubuntu support question
[18:48] <Shudorshon> yes
[18:48] <Shudorshon> voyager is running on xubuntu so i think i should ask in xubuntu channel
[18:48] <bazhang> you are running voyager OS
[18:49] <bazhang> thats not supported
[18:49] <Shudorshon> but it says voyager os 12.04 is lts
[18:49] <bazhang> not supported
[18:49] <Shudorshon> why not
[18:49] <holstein> Shudorshon: you will ask at the link i provided.. the support link at the site..
[18:50] <Shudorshon> ohh ok
[18:50] <holstein> Shudorshon: this is the xubuntu support channel, and voyager, though based on xubuntu, is not xubuntu
[18:50] <bazhang> it's not xubuntu, it's a derivative
[18:50] <Shudorshon> so this channel is only for pure xubuntu right?
[18:50] <bazhang> correct
[18:50] <starrats> yes
[18:50] <Shudorshon> omg
[18:50] <Shudorshon> ok then i should stop asking
[18:50] <holstein> verdes: doenst matter what it is, if you can move the hard drive to other hardware, that would be one of the easier ways to address that..
[18:51] <Shudorshon> ok then i think i should leave the channel
[18:51] <starrats> I mistakenly found out that yesterday, I now know this channel is nothing but xubuntu support!
[18:51] <Sysi> vouager has problems vanilla xubuntu doesn't, that's why I'd recommend setting up xubuntu with vouager themes and such if desired
[18:51] <holstein> Shudorshon: the #xubuntu-offtopic channel i referenced ealier is more "open", and somewhere you can hang out in and chat
[18:52] <Shudorshon> holstein,  r u there?
[19:17] <Shudorshon> Sysi,  u there
[21:31] <Yahto> I hope that i can get a bit of help here. i am having problems with my hotkeys/ fn + f1-12 the problem is that they are really slow they work but slow. if i turn volume up it takes about 10 sec to react to it
[23:31] <linus> i 'm trying to follow thus tutorial  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ ,but when i come to step 3 i double click the file but i don't get the listed optiond but instead the file is opened in gedit as text file.what went wrong?
[23:32] <adrenaline_> Is it an ISO File?
[23:33] <adrenaline_> wait I am looking at your link
[23:37] <holstein> linus: i use unetbootin
[23:38] <linus> adrenaline_, ok,thanx.i had to open it in terminal using ./file.it's running noe
[23:39] <linus> holstein, is it any better?
[23:39] <holstein> linus: "better" is a matter of opinion and use case.. it works for me..
[23:41] <linus> ok,i may try it in case this one fails
[23:42] <holstein> ok.. i thought you were here due to failure...
[23:42] <holstein> !info unetbootin
[23:46] <linus> but it's not used for multi boot .is it?
[23:47] <holstein> yumi is what i used for that.. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/ i did it once years ago and it was kind of "meh".. so i dont bother anymore.. but, it worked as advertised
[23:48] <linus> i tried it yesterday .it didn't work
[23:50] <holstein> linus: you'll just need to ask the maintainers of the tools that arent working
[23:51] <linus> it didn't work under Debian but may be it will for ubuntu