[04:44] <mx6523> I got a live USB drive using mkusb, now I wish to change it so it boots to a login manager instead of straight into the default accouont
[04:53] <mx6523> I don't know where that is configured


[21:58] <valorie> sign, and pass it along! https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/promote-use-free-software-our-schools-libre-office-gimp-gnu-cash-and-other-gpl-software-which-cost/T1xGw1fZ


[03:45]  * ZachK18 is away: I'm busy...back later
[19:43] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: hi, what's up
[19:43] <ZachK18> heyll
[19:44] <dhillon-v10> was that to me o_O
[19:45] <Rocket2DMn> hey
 I need some help with designing my guide, do you have some time
[19:46] <Rocket2DMn> what is the guide for
[19:46] <dhillon-v10> gnome-display apperance
[19:47] <Rocket2DMn> are you writing the guide for the wiki or for system docs?
[19:47] <dhillon-v10> system docs
[19:48] <ZachK18> hey Rocket2DMn got a question
[19:48] <Rocket2DMn> well, im not very experienced with the system docs, i mostly just due small patches for them
[19:48] <Rocket2DMn> most of my experience is with the wiki
[19:48] <dhillon-v10> I just need to focus more on my audience according to Phil but I didn't get a change to talk to him
[19:50] <Rocket2DMn> ah right
[19:50] <Rocket2DMn> i think he said you needed less about what the program is and more about how to troubleshoot it
[19:51] <dhillon-v10> oh, that part is what I don't get: if you have a bit of time can we switch to gooby you can point out some more details that way
[19:56] <dhillon-v10> so what do you say
[20:01] <Rocket2DMn> sorry, was workin on something else
[20:01] <Rocket2DMn> what is gooby?
[20:02] <dhillon-v10> its a collaborative editor where people can chat and edit files at the same time which make it easier to pin point some details
[20:02] <dhillon-v10> sudo apt-get install gooby :)
[20:02] <Rocket2DMn> eh, that's ok
[20:03] <Rocket2DMn> i think ill pass
[20:03] <Rocket2DMn> unfortunately im not really the guy you should be talking to for writing system type documentation
[20:03] <Rocket2DMn> i havent written any from scratch
[20:03] <dhillon-v10> okay I guess I will wait or try later on for Phil
[20:04] <ZachK18> Rocket2DMn, hello
[20:06] <Rocket2DMn> hey ZachK18
[20:06] <ZachK18> Rocket2DMn, hello....was wondering if you have any suggestions regarding me making a doc page for firebird and ubuntu
[20:07] <Rocket2DMn> firebird the database or firebird from mozilla?
[20:08] <ZachK18> dbms
[20:08] <Rocket2DMn> sounds like something that should be in the serverguide
[20:08] <ZachK18> ok...link?
[20:09] <Rocket2DMn> the serverguide is part of the system docs
[20:09] <ZachK18> ok
[20:09] <Rocket2DMn> well, i think you have to install it separately on the desktop version of ubuntu
[20:09] <Rocket2DMn> the serverguide source is in the ubuntu-doc branch on LP though
[20:10] <ZachK18> ok well i'm not a doc member..yet
[20:10] <Rocket2DMn> anybody can get the branch, just very few can commit to it
[20:10] <ZachK18> well i can
[20:10] <Rocket2DMn> you can make changes locally and post diffs on LP inside a bug report
[20:10] <Rocket2DMn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation
[20:11] <ZachK18> well i'm talking about making a full doc page
[20:11] <Rocket2DMn> you can open a bug report against the ubuntu-docs package and post your diff there
[20:11] <ZachK18> and it's not just firebird...it's firebird/php5/apache2/pear/
[20:12] <Rocket2DMn> hmm, i dont really know anything about firebird or integration with that stuff
[20:13] <ZachK18> that's it exactly....nobody that i've talked to does.
[20:13] <ZachK18> it took me a month just to get it working
[23:39] <ZachK18> what wiki template should i use for a new documentation page


 T70Z
[11:06] <skramer> Hi, I wonder if there is a KDE alternative to Elisa Music Player that could also receive and play streams distributed via Wi-Fi.
 Dolphin ? (re @IrcsomeBot: <skramer> Hi, I wonder if there is a KDE alternative to Elisa Music Player that could also receive and play streams distributed via Wi-Fi.)
 Dolphin ? only on local drive I guess (preview module) (re @IrcsomeBot: <skramer> Hi, I wonder if there is a KDE alternative to Elisa Music Player that could also receive and play streams distributed via Wi-Fi.)
[12:45] <prabin05> hello
[12:54] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:01] <oerheks> yzhernand, fix your connection please
[16:35] <user|84> Audio driver for ASUS N55SF
[16:36] <oerheks> arch linux has a nice howto fix your sound/subwoofer https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/ASUS_N55SF#Audio
[16:41] <user|84> realtek driver for n55sf


[21:12] <sarnold> and sure enough, there's jayden in #ubuntu-offtopic and his first few messages aren't super-encouraging
[21:13] <el> he's been in and out for days


[08:36] <rawler> heya ppl..
[08:37] <rawler> i'm having a small issue, perhaps someone cold clarify a thing or two to me?
[08:38] <rawler> I've written a small startup-script that enables a vpn-connection and sets up a bridge as soon as internet-connection is up..
[08:38] <rawler> however, when starting the service, the "start openvpn-dtvb" command hangs bootup until ctrl+c is pressed?
[08:38] <rawler> does anyone know anything about this?
[08:41] <rawler> http://pastebin.se/13022 <- the service-definition.. i can't figure what would block the startup..
[08:41] <rawler> the service runs fine, btw.. the only problem is that I have to press ctrl+c to boot, which is a bit confusing.. ;)
[08:44] <_ion> I don't immediately see what causes the problem, but on an unrelated note, what does Canal Digital have to do with a VPN? :-)
[08:44] <_ion> That is, for what purpose do they provide it?
[08:47] <rawler> _ion: we don't.. ;) I work there, we use it for internal purposes.. :)
[08:48] <rawler> _ion: found the trouble myself.. I had to define it as a service  (adding a line "service")
[08:48] <rawler> perhaps something that should be added to the FAQ? I could not find it in the documentation, but while browsing through gmane I found a similar problem..
[08:50] <rawler> _ion: I see you're from Finland?
[08:51] <rawler> btw, forgot the ordinary, "great job".. really, great job with upstart.. :) kick-ass init-solution..
[08:52] <rawler> when I first read about upstart I thought event-based seemed like a stupid idea, and were going for deps-based instead, but after working with it a little, as well as seeing the bigger picture, it's a killer.. :)
[08:53] <rawler> just the basic solution of beeing capable of things like triggering services based on particular interface-events is great..
[08:53] <rawler> I can hardly wait for Feisty to get out, so that work on full integration for Feisty+1 can begin.. :)
[08:58] <Yorokobi> Is upstart's /sbin/init SELinux capable/compatible or should I use sysvinit for SELinux? (OS: Kubuntu Edgy, upstart ver: 0.2.7-7)
[09:15] <_ion> rawler: Yeah, i'm from Finland. And d'oh, i should have realized the "service" stanza is needed. :-)
[09:16] <rawler> hehe.. it weren't when I wrote the service, about a year ago.. :)
[09:16] <rawler> _ion: btw, what's your role in Roundup?
[09:16] <_ion> Roundup?
[09:16] <AlexExtreme> it's needed now after the JobsAsStates specification is implementaed afaik
[09:17] <AlexExtreme> *implemented
[09:28] <_ion> yorokobi: I think there has been some discussion about SELinux on the mailing list, but i haven't paid much attention to it.
[09:28] <_ion> yorokobi: Perhaps you'll find the answer from the archives.
[09:28] <Yorokobi> _ion, yeah, I read through it
[09:28] <Yorokobi> it looks like its still a work in progress
[09:33] <rawler> _ion: sorry.. Upstart.. doing a little too much at the same time now.. ;)
[09:35] <_ion> rawler: Keybuk is the one who has done all the actual work. I'm mostly just an enthusiastic observer, trying to get an useful patch done every once in a while.
[09:41] <rawler> allright.. :)
[09:41] <rawler> just curious.. :)


[00:06] <Fanfare> I cant find a bug of present windows slowing down the desktop.... is it just me?
[00:21] <moetunes> Fanfare:  you might need a better graphics driver
[00:22] <Fanfare> moetunes: i might need a better graphics card anyways... nv GF 5700 173.xx binary driver
[00:22] <moetunes> sounds like it :)
[01:35] <illunatic> has anyone had issues with .ICEauthority in 10.04?
[01:37] <illunatic> random permission issues unable to start kde
[01:38] <illunatic> http://www.vupen.com/english/advisories/2006/1465
[01:58] <illunatic> something randomly changed permission to .ICEauthority and it wouldn't start kmserver
[01:58] <illunatic> until i rm .Xauthority && rm .ICEauthority
[01:59] <illunatic> i haven't seen a whole lot of info as to what causes the random permission change on .ICEauthority
[01:59] <chuckf> illunatic: I run into that on rare occasions myself. I have yet to find a cause/solution to it
[02:00] <illunatic> it's like some big mystery huh
[02:00] <illunatic> it may have to do with me installing a bunch of themes last night?
[02:00] <chuckf> doutful that that is the cause
[02:01] <chuckf> I've looked into it, didn't find anything concrete and then moved on
[02:02] <illunatic> i had a crash while running FiF, kwrite, okular, filezilla. akregator, and konsole
[02:03] <illunatic> filezilla had an active connection to my external HDD
[02:03] <chuckf> and Venus might have been in retrograde with a quarter moon
[02:03] <illunatic> heh
[02:04] <illunatic> someone mentioned corrupt boot disk somewhere. do not want
[02:04] <chuckf> you might want to check your logs to see if you can find somethign that points to the issue
[02:05]  * teadict smacks KTorrent for Stalling ):
[02:05] <illunatic> ok which logs where? :X
[02:17] <illunatic> chuckf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/523601/
[02:18] <illunatic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/523603/
[02:18] <illunatic> it was going out of the text box for some reason heh
[04:28] <Cato37> i installed a lexmark driver from disk that had a selection for debian based packages, and it messed the startup at login, changed a bunch of permissions, and tries to run the "bus". how do i unistall the stupid thing and undo all the changes that it made to the system?
[04:34] <Balsaq> good morning Lords of the Code...
[04:39] <Cato37> is there anyway to undo the damage that a lexmark driver for a s506 printer did when i used the debian/ubuntu driver?
[04:40] <Cato37> the driver did
[04:41] <Cato37> or do i need to reinstall kubuntu?
[04:47] <urgen> interesting question cato
[04:47] <urgen> so the disk had a .deb file?
[04:52] <Cato37>  yeah. it did. sorry i was downstairs. the disk had .gz tar
[04:53] <Cato37> it ask for root priviliges and then did a lot of stuff. now when i boot up it takes 2x as long and the startup process prings about 15 errorsw.
[04:54] <Cato37> i get a kickoff launcher, and a failed file report that lists what printers are on my network.
[04:55] <Cato37> after about 5 minutes all of the applications in the panel load.
[04:55] <Cato37> i am just going to reinstal the os.
[04:55] <Cato37> bbl.
[04:59] <FloridaGuy> is this what i use to add the kde 4.5.2 to my repo list....   ppa:kubuntu-ppa    from here....    http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.2
[05:03] <urgen> I have 10.04
[05:04] <FloridaGuy> im on 10.10
[05:42] <westyvw> my cpu is 3ghz. I overclock to 3.6 (always). proc/cpuinfo shows 2.0
[05:42] <westyvw> previous distro I would disable powermanagement, and get 3.6
[05:42] <westyvw> any guides or info?
[05:44] <westyvw> disabled powermanagement does not seem to help here
[05:49] <westyvw> ok how about an easier one: how do I set all my drives to automount at boot?
[06:00] <westyvw> nothing huh? ah well
[06:00] <bazhang> westvw put them in fstab?
[06:00] <bazhang> whoops
[06:04] <bazhang> !fstab | westyvw
[06:04] <bazhang> you parted before I could answer
[06:04] <westyvw> ok so i have to hand edit fstab? i can do that. shame it isnt a setting.
[06:06] <westyvw> i did make the change in KDE but have to enter a password still before mount
[06:06] <bazhang> To mount all file systems in /etc/fstab, run: sudo mount -a
[06:07] <westyvw> anythoughts on the cpu clocking mechanism?
[06:11] <westyvw> in the old days, you would see a cpu folder in proc, this would list the powermanagement settings of the processor. it was possible to echo a new high value so you would have the full cpu range
[06:11] <westyvw> somewhere it is reading what the cpu is reporting and holding it to that speed
[06:12] <westyvw> frustrating because my cpu is a late revision which means it is underclocked by the manufactoror. So i lose about 600mhz
[06:12] <bazhang> no experience with that, westyvw ; did you see how to mount in /etc/fstab pasted from the link I sent you above?
[06:13] <westyvw> yes, and thank you. It's been awhile but i can follow along.
[06:44] <westyvw> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq
[06:44] <westyvw> gives maximum cpu is allowed to go
[06:44] <westyvw> dmidecode -t prossesor tells you what your cpu is actually capable of and what the bios is set to run it at
[06:45] <westyvw> since no one is talking i thought I would. Hope you dont mind.
[06:46] <westyvw> now to figure out if i have a userspace governor or what.
[06:46] <westyvw> how is the Kubuntu system managing CPU scaling and throttling?
[06:47] <westyvw> perhaps with KDE?
[06:48] <westyvw> ah well bed time for now anyways. Thanks Kubuntu folks, I finally am trying your KDE after years of just plain Debian.
[06:56] <raziel_> Is there a way I can have empathy remember my account name but not my password
[06:59] <sinthetek> has anyone else had an issue with meerka kdm themes not wanting to install properlY
[06:59] <sinthetek> properly?*
[07:00] <sinthetek> when i 'add new themes' for the login manager through system settings, they never show up in the selection dialog
[07:09] <sinthetek> nm, i got it
[08:04] <replicasex> is there a way to move the navigation buttons to the left like in the default of Ubuntu?
[08:19] <n8w> hey
[08:20] <n8w> ive got a strange problem with gettin updates for my 10.10...when i search for updates manualy i always have to click "search for updates" n i never get anythin
[08:22] <n8w> it always generates a new package list
[08:23] <n8w> when i do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, i get 122 new updates
[08:23] <n8w> anyone?
[08:23] <Kalidarn> hmm
[09:28] <iqrasoft> exsit server aix to practice in him
[09:29] <iqrasoft> i need help
[09:30] <iqrasoft> helpme
[09:35] <Kalidarn> iqrasoft: you make no sense
[09:36] <Kalidarn> if you don't speak english perhaps it's best to ask in a channel that speaks your language https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[10:00] <Cato37> when i partition linux what is the minimum space for the os compared to a partitioned home file?
[10:01] <illunatic> Cato37: i don't know the exact, but i believe 15GB is recommended
[10:01] <illunatic> although, it could be GiB
[10:01] <illunatic> oh noez!
[10:02] <Cato37> illunatic: thanx. i was going to give it 12. but 15 will work also
[10:03] <illunatic> sure i hope that's accurate
[10:03] <moetunes> sounds fine :)
[10:04] <illunatic> i halped!
[10:09] <Cato37> thanx. just to be sure. :)   i can give kubuntu 15 gigs and the partitioned home file can be the rest of the drive.
[10:14] <Cato37> have a good night/day all.
[10:40] <damsamnang> hi
[11:04] <Machtin> let's say my system freezes. i have to hard reset and boot again.. how can i see why it froze?
[11:04] <Machtin> or where?
[11:07] <moetunes> maybe in ~/.xsession.errors or /var/log/syslog perhaps...
[11:11] <Machtin> mh
[11:15] <yoshilove> hey. :D
[11:15] <ilika> why isn't KpackageKit finding BitchX?
[11:15] <moetunes> !find bitchx
[11:16] <moetunes> !info bitchx
[11:16] <ilika> what does that mean?
[11:16] <yoshilove> anyone know if there's a sudo or some other terminal command to open preferences/administration via custom launcher?
[11:20] <Machtin> yoshilove: do you mean "systemsettings"
[11:37] <jonbet> hi all, im join in..
[11:39] <jonbet> i need to learn how to compile alsa-driver. Does nyone know what tutorial i should read first? im using kubuntu dvd amd64 10.10 thanx
[11:40] <moetunes> !compile
[11:40] <ilika> where do all apps usually get installed?
[11:40] <moetunes> !checkinstall
[11:40] <moetunes> ilika:  normally in /usr/bin
[11:41] <ilika> thanks
[11:41] <moetunes> np :)
[11:43] <jonbet> thanks, im reading.. :)
[11:53] <rek> hi i need to do a point to point connection
[11:58] <moetunes> !adhoc
[12:03] <Kalidarn> hmm
[12:03] <Kalidarn> what can i do to find out why my CPU usage is spiking
[12:08] <moetunes> check things in top maybe
[12:10] <Hazamonzo> hmm, why would pkill ksnapshot restart my kde session?
[12:12] <ilika> why isn't KpackageKit finding Nessus?
[12:14] <moetunes> !find nessus
[12:14] <ilika> how would I install it?
[12:14] <moetunes> !info nessus
[12:15] <moetunes> ilika:  there's no package for it
[12:15] <ilika> moetunes: I downloaded the .deb file from their website, can I use that
[12:17] <moetunes> ilika:  sure if the dependencies are met - sudo dpkg -i /path/to/nessus
[12:17] <moetunes> to install
[12:18] <ilika> ok, using the GUI package installer
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:19] <ilika> moetunes: it said package was installed, no idea where though
[12:19] <moetunes> ilika:  probably in /usr/bin
[12:20] <moetunes> ilika:  in konsole try   which nessus   if that is the app name
[12:23] <ilika> whats a keyboard shortcut to run a command
[12:24] <pibarnas> ilika: ?
[12:24] <bazhang> alt f2?
[12:24] <ilika> thanks
[12:49] <dmatt> ilika: run terminal and enter commands there, that way you can see output and results
[13:26] <sorgen> по русски пожалуйста
[13:27] <moetunes> !ru
[13:31] <dmatt> apt-get and kpackagekit are segfaulting on me in 10.10 x86
[13:31] <dmatt> anybody with the same problem?
[13:32] <moetunes> I haven't heard anyone mention that here
[13:33] <dmatt> first I thought it is because od 4.5.2 ppa, but happened on clean install as well
[13:33] <dmatt> maybe it is somehow connected to localisation files
[13:34] <dmatt> I even tried install from alternate medium
[13:34] <moetunes> first thought is a bad cd burn...
[13:34] <dmatt> and checking memory...
[13:34] <moetunes> yep
[13:34] <dmatt> everything tested already
[13:35] <dmatt> normal medium failed to finish install
[13:35] <moetunes> did you do the cd check from the cd menu?
[13:35] <dmatt> with alternative i did it already two times and still having problems
[13:36] <dmatt> i think i did... i do it one more time to be safe...
[13:36] <moetunes> you could try in konsole   sudo dpkg-reconfigure apt
[13:37] <sresu_> Thinking of upgrading to Maverick than sticking to LTS.. Should I?
[13:38] <moetunes> sresu_:  it is your choice - I prefer the lts personally
[13:38] <dmatt> moetunes: funny i do not have any problems on 64... but it is on different notebook
[13:38] <sresu_> during a release kubuntu and ubuntu dont upgrade major version numbers (ie lucid will never offically support kde 4.5... you can only get that though comuntiy ppas), right
[13:38] <sresu_> lucid is highly unlikly to get kde 4.6 when it come out (or ever) where as maverick in all likly hood will..
[13:39] <moetunes> there'll be a backport for it I'm sure sresu_
[13:39] <sresu_> But ppa I don't prefer to use..
[13:39] <moetunes> dmatt:  I would be suprised if diff h/ware had an affect on apt tho...
[13:39] <sresu_> You got KDE 4.5.1, moetunes?
[13:40] <moetunes> sresu_:  sounds like your mind is set on moving to maverick then :)
[13:41] <sresu_> moetunes: No, still not able to decide. I was with mind set to stick with lts alone.. Now confused
[13:41] <dmatt> moetunes: maybe apt is failing becasue kpackagekit failed before and left mess... and I suspect it has something to do with my hardware
[13:43] <sresu_> moetunes: Setting upgrade settings to LTS will prompt me of next LTS and get me directly to the newest, so upgrading won't be much of a issue. With that, one may not experiance the latest warez..
[13:43] <moetunes> sresu_:  there's no reason to decide just yet
[13:44] <sresu_> moetunes: So, what do you say?
[13:44] <moetunes> dmatt:  there's the memory checker in the live cds' menu - would that give a clue?
[13:45] <moetunes> sresu_:  if you are in two minds I would suggest waiting for a reason to prompt you
[13:45] <dmatt> moetunes: I already did that, no memory problem
[13:47] <moetunes> dmatt:  if it's not the cd and not the memory that leaves read/writes to the hdd then afaik
[13:48] <dmatt> moetunes: how do i check that?
[13:49] <moetunes> dmatt:  hdparm or smart
[13:49] <moetunes> !smart
[13:49] <dmatt> moetunes: smartmon must be installed first :(
[13:50] <moetunes> heh - that makes things hard then dmatt ...
[13:50] <dmatt> just finished checking second cd integrity check, both normal and alternate media are OK
[13:50] <sresu_> moetunes: Ok.. Well, other thing about muon, you know about that package manager? I know its not totally possible to get muon in lucid due dependencies. Is there ay way I can use anything like that? Other than kpk..
[13:51] <moetunes> sresu_:  you can install synaptic or use the command line
[13:51] <sresu_> moetunes: I have it installed
[13:51] <sresu_> but no not the CLI
[13:51] <moetunes> sresu_:  I haven't heard about muon tho
[13:52] <sresu_> Its similar to Synapic
[13:52] <sresu_> !info muon
[13:52] <moetunes> sresu_:  you have the cli apt installed
[13:52] <sresu_> Command line interface, yes
[13:53] <moetunes> I apt-cache search then apt-get install here...
[13:53] <sresu_> Yeah, I do the same thing
[13:53] <moetunes> it's quicker
[13:53] <sresu_> But, I tend to do mistakes when dependencies
[13:53] <sresu_> Small but its fine as well
[13:54] <moetunes> dmatt:  is the package manager the only issue?
[13:56] <dmatt> moetunes: when screen locks, i could not get back, there is some video issue
[13:57] <dmatt> i am going to make one more vanilla install without localisation, so i can track, where the issue is introduced
[13:58] <moetunes> k
[14:00] <dmatt> moetunes: any tip how to test with hdparm when running with live cd
[14:01] <dmatt> ?
[14:03] <moetunes> dmatt:  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Hdparm - I like the archlinux wiki :)
[14:14] <dmatt> moetunes: disk is OK according to smartmontools
[14:15] <moetunes> dmatt:  no idea what the issue is since you can't reconfigure apt...
[14:15] <moetunes> dmatt:  tried reading   dmesg   to see if it shows some errors?
[14:16] <dmatt> not in live cd ...
[14:16] <moetunes> k
[14:16] <dmatt> exdcept soem acpi stuff
[14:17] <moetunes> dmatt:  there should be /var/log/syslog on the hdd from the last boot
[14:18] <dmatt> i am going to reboot into recovery to try to reconfigure apt
[14:51] <dmatt> moetunes: do you know, how to start update-notifier widget
[14:51] <javier__> Hi! Since I upgraded to Maverick yesterday my laptop overheats a bit. Anyone has any idea what could have changed?
[14:52] <moetunes> dmatt:  nope sorry
[14:52] <moetunes> javier__:  maybe in konsole check   top   to see if an app is working hard ?
[14:53] <moetunes> !nickchange | Kalidarn
[14:53] <Kalidarn> what
[14:54] <moetunes> Kalidarn:  you change your nick alot..
[14:54] <moetunes> !guidelines
[14:54] <javier__> Kalidarn: Xorg by root gets high percentage CPU and mem
[14:54] <Kalidarn> lol
[14:54] <Kalidarn> you are an idiot clearly
[14:54] <moetunes> heh - * Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn * zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn * zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn
[14:55] <Pici> Kalidarn: Please be civil.
[14:55] <Kalidarn> it's because my IRC client disconnects from my BNC
[14:55] <Kalidarn> and that happens because suspend does not work in kubuntu
[14:56] <moetunes> Kalidarn:  I'm sure there is a setting to turn that off if you want
[14:57] <Kalidarn> moetunes: i was testing to see if suspend works
[14:57] <moetunes> javier__:  you could see if there is a diff graphics card driver for your system
[14:57] <Kalidarn> and it changes my name when i detatch because it is a feature.
[14:57] <moetunes> Kalidarn:  I'm sure there is a setting to turn that off if you want
[14:58] <Kalidarn> it is supposed to do that.
[14:58] <Kalidarn> and why would i want to do that.
[14:58] <moetunes> !guidelines
[14:58] <Kalidarn> its not like it happens all the time
[14:58] <javier__> moetunes: thing is, i had this problem long time ago, and it seemed to be fixed already. But after this upgrading, its gone mad again
[14:58] <javier__> and I cant keep it even belov 50
[14:58] <javier__> before I was around 40
[14:59] <Kalidarn> and where does it say changing your nick on detatch is bad
[14:59] <dmatt> javier__: have you rebooted in meantime?
[14:59] <javier__> and now, even I'm in "powersafe", it gets the two processors to work, so it overheats
[14:59] <Pici> It happened twice, its fine.
[14:59] <javier__> yes, yes
[14:59] <javier__> i rebooted
[14:59] <javier__> its happening since 2 days
[14:59] <Pici> Kalidarn: you should avoid it in the future though.
[15:00] <Pici> Kalidarn: Under the 'Don't use public away messages' heading.
[15:00] <dmatt> javier__: do you have flash running?
[15:00] <javier__> no...
[15:01] <Kalidarn> given the amount of join/party messages in the channel and it had really only done it twice in the last block of join part messages.
[15:01] <javier__> is there a possibility for making impossible running the two processors when I'm in powersafe?
[15:01] <Kalidarn> i hardly think that it is a real problem if i closed my irc client twice you wouldn't have complained, clients can also configure irc to not show join/party/events
[15:02] <moetunes> I don't see join/parts here
[15:03] <Kalidarn> i think you'll find what they mean by public status changes is echoes out into /say
[15:03] <moetunes> javier__:  anything about errors in the X log?
[15:06] <javier__> moetunes: ah, something else happened. Dont know why I dont get hidden files by pressing Ctrl+H
[15:06] <moetunes> oh
[15:08] <javier__> did you say something? made the sound but didnt get any message
[15:08] <Kalidarn> moetunes: furthermore i was testing to see if fork bombs still work on ubuntu
[15:08] <Kalidarn> and apparently they do
[15:08] <Kalidarn> so that's kind of funny
[15:09] <Kalidarn> considering other distributions have default configuration as user to prevent processes from being beyond say 50
[15:09] <Kalidarn> per user.
[15:09] <moetunes> javier__:  I said   oh
[15:11] <javier__> ah, hehe. Ok
[15:11] <javier__> moetunes: fot Xlog error checking, i went to .xsession-errors. right?
[15:11] <javier__> there are few things there
[15:11] <dmatt> moetunes: everything work fine here after reboot... i am going to try to add ppa for 4.5.2
[15:12] <moetunes> javier__:  there is a good start
[15:12] <moetunes> dmatt:  well done - what was the fix?
[15:12] <javier__> but, Im afraid, i dont know how to read there...
[15:13] <moetunes> javier__:  you can paste it and I'll have a read too
[15:13] <moetunes> !paste
[15:13] <javier__> moetunes: everything? how was that page for pasting texts?
[15:13] <javier__> ok, thanks
[15:15] <dmatt> moetunes: i did that dpkg-reconfigure thing in recovery console, but it said it did not change anything... maybe simple restart was enough
[15:15] <javier__> moetunes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/523899/
[15:16] <javier__> moetunes: but, what do you think about what I said before? forbidding ussing second CPU in Powersafe mode. That would work for me
[15:17] <moetunes>  javier__ I wouldn't know how to do that sorry
[15:18] <moetunes> javier__:  line 6 from that paste seems like a bad start
[15:18] <javier__> moetunes: uggg
[15:19] <javier__> really?
[15:19] <moetunes> javier__:  it looks like dbus errors
[15:19] <javier__> moetunes: mmm, dont know what that means...
[15:20] <Kalidarn> does suspend to ram/disk work for anyone else here?
[15:21] <moetunes> javier__:  I have little experience with dbus - I would as a first test move .config to .config.bak and relogin in
[15:22] <javier__> moetunes: rename?
[15:23] <moetunes> javier__:  yep
[15:23] <javier__> moetunes:  ok, done. But anything seems to have happend so far
[15:24] <javier__> moetunes: ok, done. but nothing has happend so far, or so it does look like
[15:24] <moetunes> javier__:  hows the cpu usage? - is xsession-errors diff?
[15:25] <javier__> opps, dont see whats going on here
[15:28] <javier__> i got lost
[15:28] <javier__> so, I changed to .config.bak and didnt get anything after that
[15:30] <moetunes> javier__:  there's some dbus stuff in .config - moving that dir hould have forced dbus to defaults which hopefully would have improved things for you
[15:30] <moetunes> *should
[15:31] <javier__> so, you I pastebin .xsession.error for you now?
[15:31] <moetunes> javier__:  sure :)
[15:32] <javier__> well, line 6 remains the same
[15:32] <cynewave_> Anyone else having problems with non-functional usb ports on kubuntu 10.10
[15:33] <said> hi, I have a printer "canon LBP 2900B" shared in workgroup named "FireFoc" using "windows XP" , my pc is connected to this workgroup, I want to using that printer in my " kubuntu 10.10" systeme, can you tell me ho.
[15:33] <moetunes> cynewave_:  haven't heard anyobe here mention it
[15:34] <javier__> moetunes: waw, it doesnt work copying and pasting text
[15:34] <javier__> weird
[15:35] <moetunes> said:  look at this page - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[15:35] <said> thank you
[15:36] <moetunes> javier__:  sounds like you have some major issues - is this a fresh install?
[15:36] <javier__> ok, plasma just broke down
[15:36] <javier__> :)
[15:37] <moetunes> heh
[15:37] <javier__> I upgraded from 10.10 like always did before
[15:37] <moetunes> k
[15:37] <javier__> plasma broke and came back as it was gone
[15:37] <moetunes> might be h/ware issue then
[15:39] <javier__> moetunes: mmm, i dont think is hardware, i have had similar problems before and somehow I solved them
[15:39] <javier__> i wish I could go back to my previos 10.04, just as it was two days ago :)
[15:40] <javier__> shall I resrore .config name?
[15:40] <javier__> restore
[15:40] <moetunes> javier__:  it pays to take notes about these things... :)
[15:41] <moetunes> javier__:  yep you can restore .config
[15:42] <said> Hi again, I Have a cyber cafe using ubuntu/kubuntu systeme in PC's I need a software to manage this network ( counting, opning PC, closing......)
[15:43] <Guest77705> hello
[15:44] <smooph> hey guys how can I uninstall the activities stuff
[15:44] <smooph> I have like a million unnamed new activities
[15:44] <smooph> of course without creating them
[15:47] <e_t_> said: you might take a look at this http://italc.sourceforge.net/ It's meant for teachers but might do what you want.
[15:50] <javier__> moetunes: it seems we broke something. Now, every time I cross my cursor over paste-plasma applet, plasma collapses and switch-off for several seconds, and restart later
[15:50] <javier__> moetunes: what we didnt really do anything for that happening, did we?
[15:51] <moetunes> javier__:  afaik plasma has nothing in .config - you would need to logout/login to use the restored .config folder tho
[15:51] <javier__> but I restarted and its still happening
[15:52] <moetunes> javier__:  prob more dbus errors - check the bottom of xsession-errors
[15:57] <javier__> moetunes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/523922/
[15:58] <moetunes> k
[15:58] <javier__> moetunes: its full of errors
[16:00] <moetunes> javier__:  it sure is - they all seem to stem from dbus from what I know
[16:01] <javier__> moetunes: so... any idea what could I do with that?
[16:02] <moetunes> javier__:  I know nothing about debugging dbus errors but I'm having a google
[16:02] <javier__> mhm, thanks a lot
[16:03] <smooph> Hey guys I want to disable the plasma activties ... how can i do that?
[16:03] <moetunes> javier__:  see if this helps - http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=86596
[16:04] <said> How I can setup/install Bzip software
[16:06] <e_t_> said: you can install bzip (if it's not already installed) with "sudo apt-get install bzip2"
[16:06] <javier__> moetunes: mmm, it seems he removed some applet and his ploblems dissapeared :)
[16:07] <javier__> i think something like that can be happening to me, cause yesterday I had problems with KNM applet. But, right yesterday I restarted to default my Xorg configuration, so I think I dealed with those problems...
[16:07] <moetunes> javier__:  yep
[16:10] <javier__> moetunes: is it my problem with rendering?
[16:11] <moetunes> javier__:  I don't :think" so
[16:11] <moetunes> javier__:  I don't "think" so
[16:11] <javier__> ok
[16:11] <javier__> my problem is also with my Nvidia graphic card, that goes very hot
[16:12] <javier__> i remember i was working on that, but dont remember if i finally did something throw the card when my laptop was overheating or by another way
[16:12] <moetunes> javier__:  using the drivers from nvidia?
[16:13] <javier__> moetunes: its stuppid that the card always works at maximum performance, when Im not running games neither have desktop effects working...
[16:13] <javier__> mhm, nvidia driver
[16:13] <moetunes> smooph1:  I can't find anything on google for turning the activities off...
[16:14] <smooph1> me neither
[16:16] <javier__> you think I could remove NVIDIA controler if Im not using 3D aceleration?would it work?
[16:17] <intick> hi allDo you know how can it lunch inaDyn at start up ?
[16:18] <moetunes> smooph1:  this might give a clue - http://hanschen.org/2009/11/17/how-do-you-use-activities/
[16:18] <moetunes> javier__:  I would just use the open source driver 'till there was no errors
[16:19] <javier__> but how to use the open source one?
[16:19] <javier__> removing the other?
[16:20] <moetunes> javier__:  yep - and make sure there is no file xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[16:22] <javier__> moetunes: no file there what means? nothing about NVIDIA or nothing about any private controler?
[16:22] <said> how I can software *.tar.bz2   ???
[16:22] <moetunes> !compile | said
[16:23] <said> how I can setup/install software *.tar.bz2   ???
[16:23] <moetunes> !checkinstall | said
[16:23] <moetunes> said:  that is called compiling - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[16:24] <moetunes> javier__:  if there is no file there named xorg.conf and you have removed the nvidia driver you should be able to reboot into using the opensource driver
[16:25] <javier__> moetunes: ok, i will do it step by step. Im removing them and see what i got in that folder later
[16:25] <moetunes> k
[16:27] <javier__> moetunes: so now, any NVIDIA driver is active. and in X11 there is no xorg.conf file
[16:28] <moetunes> javier__:  you need to reboot to not use the nvidia driver - it gets loaded into the kernel at boot afaik
[16:28] <javier__> moetunes: but there are xorg.conf.dist-update-20031011101, xorg.conf.failsafe and even xorg.conf~
[16:28] <said> which systeme is the best and easy ;kununtu OR ubuntu
[16:29] <javier__> OK
[16:29] <javier__> moetunes: so, I reboot
[16:29] <moetunes> javier__:  yep - if the files aren't named simply xorg.conf they're backups
[16:30] <moetunes> said:  they are much the same - it depends on the desktop environment you prefer
[16:30] <said> you mean KDE & GNOME
[16:31] <moetunes> yep
[16:31] <moetunes> each desktop environment has its' own apps etc
[16:32] <said> How i can change desktop environment from KDE to GNOME?
[16:32] <javier__> moetunes: well, everything working much faster now!
[16:32] <moetunes> said:  you can install ubuntu-desktop and select it at login
[16:33] <moetunes> !ubuntu-desktop
[16:33] <moetunes> javier__:  woot!
[16:33] <said> Thank yo
[16:33] <moetunes> javier__:  so it was a driver issue it seems ?
[16:33] <javier__> not as cold as i would like, but maybe it needs time to cold down
[16:34] <moetunes> not dbus like I thought
[16:36] <javier__> moetunes: just, letters went a bit too small
[16:39] <moetunes> javier__:  you might be using a bigger resolution now
[16:39] <javier__> ammm
[16:40] <moetunes> javier__:  in konsole   xrandr -q   will tell
[16:41] <javier__>    1280x800       60.0*+
[16:41] <javier__>    1024x768       59.9
[16:41] <javier__>    800x600        59.9
[16:41] <javier__>    640x480        59.4
[16:41] <javier__>    720x400        59.6
[16:41] <FloodBotK2> javier__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:41] <javier__>    640x400        60.0
[16:41] <javier__> how to make letters bigger?
[16:42] <moetunes> javier__:  in system settings somewhere - I'm not on a kde box atm to check
[16:43] <javier__> moetunes: ok, ok
[16:43] <javier__> thanks very much for all your help
[16:43] <javier__> im leaving
[16:43] <javier__> thanks!!!
[16:43] <moetunes> k
[16:46] <dmatt> moetunes: i am back after more testing... all is running well except when there are updates available, kpackagekit update notifier segfaults
[16:47] <dmatt> moetunes: any idea how to reset it ? would deleting /.kde do any good?
[16:47] <moetunes> dmatt:  does apt-get update work
[16:47] <dmatt> yes
[16:47] <moetunes> dmatt:  I wouldn't remove it - just rename foe now
[16:59] <gandal> ciao
[16:59] <gandal> problemi con microfono
[16:59] <moetunes> !it
[16:59] <gandal> ok grazie
[17:00] <moetunes> np :)
[17:01] <Kalidarn> hrm, i wonder why kubuntu isn't suspending
[17:01] <Kalidarn> i just see the _ line
[17:01] <Kalidarn> to either disk or RAM
[17:01] <dmatt> moetunes: I am not sure what to rename ... it is easier to set checking actualisations to Never in kpackagekit
[17:02] <dmatt> but i am still curious why it happens only to me
[17:02] <moetunes> dmatt:  you were talking about removing .kde - that is what I was suggesting to just rename
[17:03] <moetunes> in case that wasn;t the issue
[17:03] <moetunes> in case that wasn't the issue
[17:03] <dmatt> moetunes: Ah I see
[17:07] <Kalidarn> okay that's interesting
[17:07] <Kalidarn> when i do say suspend to ram i see a blinking _ and hear the suspend chime
[17:07] <Kalidarn> however when i switch to tty1 and try to login i cannot see any of my characters appearing in the login
[17:07] <Kalidarn> the keyboard obviously works because im able to switch tty
[17:09] <Kalidarn> if i switch to tty7 or 8 i just see black screen and then i can't switch to any other ttys anymore
[17:13] <amichair> every since upgrade to maverick I get complaints from others on skype calls that they hear themselves in echo, and this has never happened before... any idea how to fix this? Is it a pulseaudio thing?
[17:14] <Peace-> amichair: it could be..
[17:14] <Peace-> try
[17:14] <Peace-> to remove
[17:14] <amichair> will anything break without pa?
[17:14] <amichair> (why was it added?)
[17:15] <Kalidarn> it aims to make things easier for users
[17:15] <Peace-> i use kuibuntu without pulse
[17:15] <Kalidarn> and allows per application volume
[17:15] <moetunes> !pulseaudio
[17:15] <Peace-> Kalidarn: but it's a stupid thing
[17:15] <Kalidarn> if you remove it though you can't do per application volume in kmix
[17:15] <Peace-> alsa for normal user it enough
[17:15] <Kalidarn> but i've heard it can cause problems
[17:16] <Peace-> sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio-utils pulseaudio
[17:16] <Peace-> that should be enought
[17:16] <Peace-> you got problem ?
[17:16] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install pulseaudio-utils pulseaudio
[17:16] <Peace-> .
[17:17] <moetunes> I would use --purge remove myself
[17:17] <Kalidarn> someone told me suspension in kubuntu ie suspend to ram/disk doesnt work full stop is there any truth to this?
[17:17] <smooph> anybody know how i can disable/uninstall plasma-activities ... I have a billion unamed activities which I don't and won't use
[17:17] <Kalidarn> im trying to get it working on my system and haven't yet found out why its not
[17:17] <Peace-> Kalidarn: some computer can get that problem
[17:18] <Kalidarn> i know hardware can cause issues
[17:18] <Peace-> with some hardware
[17:18] <Kalidarn> yeah how might i find out what it is
[17:18] <moetunes> smooph:  id you have no luck here there is #kde
[17:18] <moetunes> *if
[17:19] <Kalidarn> computer is using nvidia proprietary 1 screen via DVI and only has 1 mouse 1 keyboard, with Gigabyte X58A-UD3R Intel X58 LGA 1366 motherboard
[17:19] <smooph> moetunes: good idea
[17:19] <Kalidarn> i thought about trying other distribution livecds
[17:19] <Kalidarn> to rule out if its hardware or configuration
[17:19] <amichair> Kalidarn: funny you should mention it, ever since the upgrade kmix only shows master volume and all channels are gone
[17:19] <Kalidarn> powerdevil says everything should work
[17:19] <Kalidarn> its on another tab amichair
[17:20] <amichair> Kalidarn: nope, I looked everywhere, and in settings too
[17:20] <Kalidarn> Playback streams
[17:20] <dmatt> moetunes: I found bug report describing my problem here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kpackagekit/+bug/667856
[17:20] <dmatt> moetunes: thank you for help
[17:20] <moetunes> np :)
[17:20] <smooph> Kalidarn: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Energiesparmodi_mit_ACPI
[17:20] <Kalidarn> i cant read german :P
[17:20] <amichair> in any case, I think I'll try removing PA and hope for the best
[17:20] <Kalidarn> i dont know if that will translate :P
[17:21] <amichair> Kalidarn, Peace-: Thanks
[17:21] <Kalidarn> :P
[17:22] <amichair> what the heck? I tried apt-get remove it, and it says it will remove, among other things, dasher? that has nothing to do with pa...
[17:24] <smooph> amichair: it will remove programs that have been marked for automatic installation with other programs ... you can tell apt to only remove the packages you want
[17:24] <smooph> man apt or man aptitude
[17:24] <amichair> but I installed dasher manually...
[17:24] <Peace-> amichair: you have only to remove puylse
[17:25] <Peace-> and stop
[17:25] <Kalidarn> hmm smooph
[17:25] <smooph> maybe dasher depends on the program you want to remove
[17:25] <Kalidarn> i translated it but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense
[17:25] <Peace-> the name of other applications?
[17:25] <Kalidarn> under the It does not always work :P
[17:25] <sorbiq> hi all
[17:26] <smooph> Kalidarn: maybe you should google yourself ... suspend, hibernate, your board, cpu etc
[17:26] <Kalidarn> :D
[17:26] <Kalidarn> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9475037&postcount=18
[17:26] <Kalidarn> maybe that is the problem it talks about my motherboard
[17:26] <Kalidarn> it is USB 3 apparently causing the problem
[17:27] <Kalidarn> course i guess a lot of people do not have USB 3 :P
[17:27] <Kalidarn> just when i was going to buy that new portable usb 3 hard disk
[17:28] <smooph> I don't understand why usb3 should give you trouble with hibernate ... other that the driver might be bad and won't resume when coming back out of sleep ... and than just reinitiate the driver via script
[17:29] <sorbiq> how to make transparent windows borders ?
[17:29] <sorbiq> i have themes with transparency but it dont work
[17:30] <Kalidarn> smooph: well i can try it i guess
[17:30] <Peace-> sorbiq: systemsettings
[17:30] <sorbiq> Peace-: and ?
[17:32] <Kalidarn> smooph: that's certainly the problem :P http://pastebin.com/e5iZ0W8d
[17:32] <Kalidarn> [ 1170.845612] PM: Device usb9 failed to suspend async: error -2
[17:32] <Kalidarn> that's my USB 3.0 ports
[17:32] <Kalidarn> they're the last 2 ones
[17:33] <smooph> ok than you need to create a script powering down usb3 before hibernation and backup after resume
[17:33] <Kalidarn> yeah he's got one in the thread
[17:33] <Kalidarn> it remove the xhci driver
[17:33] <smooph> there should be instructions out there explaining it with graphics driver
[17:34] <Kalidarn> it looks fairly simple, suspend, hibernate thaw resume in a case  with modprobe and modprobe -r ^_^
[17:35] <Kalidarn> except for the fact i dont think it works
[17:35] <smooph> :D well thats what i call expected
[17:38] <Kalidarn> mmm that wasn't the problem
[17:39] <Kalidarn> it must be because usb9 is the xhci driver
[17:39] <Kalidarn> unless the module is not called xhci anymore
[17:41] <Kalidarn> ah i think its called xhci_hcd :P
[17:42] <Kalidarn> woot fixed it
[17:43] <Kalidarn> mmm i seee tones of unable to read inode block blah
[17:43] <Kalidarn> ext4fs errors :P
[17:44] <apparle> hi
[17:45] <Kalidarn> oh splendid
[17:45] <Kalidarn> Resume from hibernate corrupts ext4
[17:47] <subhashish> hello can anybody help me with my sound problem? (i have installed kubuntu for second time after kubuntu 10.04 and i am new to linux)
[17:47] <subhashish> my sound output is very low
[17:47] <smooph> subhashish: what do you mean with low ... low in volume ?
[17:47] <subhashish> like in previous kmix in 10.04 the kmix is not recognising my pcm
[17:48] <smooph> whats you soundcard
[17:48] <subhashish> wait
[17:49] <smooph> if you don't know open a "konsole" type "lspci" and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:50] <subhashish> smooph, it is a big output can i paste it here?
[17:50] <subhashish> oo wait
[17:51] <apparle> subhashish: is it only the problem of kmix or your soundcard is not working at all in linux?
[17:51] <subhashish> no the sound card was working in 10.04 a half an hour ago!
[17:52] <subhashish> now i installed 10.10
[17:52] <apparle> subhashish: and is it working in 10.10?
[17:52] <apparle> subhashish: I mean sound ?
[17:52] <subhashish> yes but i hav to turn the sound level of my speakers to its extreme to get any sound
[17:53] <subhashish> http://paste.ubuntu.com/523978/
[17:54] <apparle> subhashish: open konsole and then alsamixer
[17:54] <apparle> subhashish: configure it
[17:54] <subhashish> yes , directions please?
[17:59] <jaroslav_> jaroslavn
[17:59] <jaroslav_> jaroslavn
[18:08] <apparle> subhashish: open the konsole and type alsamixer and press enter
[18:09] <subhashish> i have got the gnome alsamixer installed
[18:09] <subhashish> played with it but i didnt get anything
[18:10] <subhashish> still no sound
[18:10] <Peace-> subhashish: alsamixer is a terminal program
[18:10] <Peace-> no need of gnome stuff
[18:10] <Peace-> ,
[18:10] <subhashish> ok
[18:11] <apparle> subhashish: you can find konsole in menu
[18:11] <subhashish> i did alsamixer one too and it shows that my pcm, speaker and master are at 100
[18:11] <Peace-> !imagebin
[18:12] <subhashish> ok
[18:13] <subhashish> here it is http://imagebin.org/121342
[18:15] <u19809> hi all, I could not get my JRE running op openoffice ... installed openoffice-java-common but now my kubuntu menus are gone ...
[18:19] <apparle> subhashish: just go to pcm channel and press m to see if anything changes.
[18:19] <subhashish> ok wait
[18:20] <subhashish> no nothing happens
[18:20] <apparle> subhashish: funny. everything seems to be alright
[18:20] <subhashish> yeah seems funny to me too
[18:21] <apparle> subhashish: see in the system settings sound if correct card is selected
[18:21] <subhashish> the sound is ver very low
[18:21] <subhashish> ok wait
[18:21] <apparle> subhashish: when you say sound? whcih player are you referring to/
[18:21] <subhashish> amarok, vlc, mplayer
[18:22] <subhashish> i hav got those installed
[18:22] <apparle> subhashish: use the test button in the sound menu of system settings?
[18:22] <subhashish> no i dont get anything with that
[18:23] <apparle> subhashish: try changing the card to something else? what all is listed in the cards?
[18:24] <subhashish> only one is listed named "Internal Audio Analog Stereo"
[18:24] <subhashish> and the control for that shows up in kmix
[18:24] <apparle> subhashish: no idea then.
[18:24] <subhashish> hmmm
[18:24] <subhashish> ok thanks
[18:25] <apparle> subhashish: try booting to a ubuntu live CD to locate whether it is driver or kde specific problem
[18:25] <subhashish> i will try to find a solution by myself
[18:25] <subhashish> i hav tried with the ubuntu one
[18:25] <apparle> :)
[18:26] <subhashish> and i got nice sounds from its players
[18:26] <apparle> subhashish: you mean in ubuntu 10.10 you get normal sound? or did you try in 10.04?
[18:26] <subhashish> yes normal in 10.04 and 10.10 too
[18:26] <subhashish> ubuntu
[18:27] <apparle> subhashish: then try playing some file via command line using mplayer
[18:27] <apparle> subhashish: see if three it plays normally
[18:27] <subhashish> i already have and found that it cant too
[18:29] <apparle> subhashish: did you try with aplay?
[18:29] <apparle> subhashish: but aplay only plays wav files?
[18:30] <apparle> subhashish: if aplay also doesn't play it then you have somehow messed the sound card driver
[18:31] <subhashish> no i just installed kubuntu 10.10 an hour ago but still i will look into my soundcard driver problem or will try properly reinstalling kubuntu 10.10
[18:32] <subhashish> thank u very much apparle Peace- smooph  :)
[18:32] <apparle> k
[18:41] <haribu> bin ich drin?
[18:41] <Pici> !de | haribu
[18:42] <haribu>  /join #ubuntu-de
[18:42] <haribu> ich bleib lieber beim usenet
[18:45] <Slashx> Hey
[18:46] <Slashx> I have an issue with networking.
[18:46] <Slashx> Many times hwhen I boot the KNetworkManager says Networking Disabled
[18:46] <Slashx> How do I enable this outside of going through Lubuntu
[18:54] <nuboon2age> Slashx: don't forget there's also a #lubuntu channel
[18:55] <nuboon2age> they may have the answers there if no one knows the answers here
[18:57] <Slashx> I prefer Kubuntu
[19:00] <nuboon2age> sure Slashx.  me too.  just trying to help since you asked about lubuntu
[19:01] <nuboon2age> Slashx: oh, now that i read your question again, i have a different understanding
[19:02] <Slashx> I only know how to enable it via switching to Lubuntu
[19:02] <nuboon2age> i got a tip from james148 about this
[19:02] <nuboon2age> i have the same problem
[19:03] <nuboon2age> but right at the moment i don't know if i can recall the answer he gave me
[19:08] <nuboon2age> Slashx: it involved editing a text file
[19:09] <nuboon2age> but i can't locate my notes right now to tell you which file and what to change.  i can tell you it was very simple
[19:11] <pibarnas> nuboon2age: could u repeat that please?
[19:12] <nuboon2age> pibarnas: sorry repeat which?
[19:12] <pibarnas> nuboon2age: do u have a problem there, is that it?
[19:12] <Slashx> pibarnas:
[19:12] <Slashx> I have the prblem
[19:12] <Slashx> *problem
[19:12] <Slashx> [14:46] <Slashx> I have an issue with networking.
[19:12] <Slashx> [14:46] <Slashx> Many times hwhen I boot the KNetworkManager says Networking Disabled
[19:12] <FloodBotK2> Slashx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:13] <Slashx> oops
[19:16] <pibarnas> Slashx: sorry, I'm afraid I can't help u, dude.
[19:16] <pibarnas> I know nothing about networking.
[19:43] <teadict> how do I set up default view mode as columns for Dolphin?
[19:43] <teadict> can get it to remember
[19:43] <teadict> *can't
[20:00] <vasiliy> привет всем
[20:00] <maco> !ru
[20:00] <vasiliy> что такое  Riddell
[20:45] <raziel_> Is there a way I can have empathy remember my account name but not my password
[20:45] <raziel_> ?
[20:52] <rek> hi
[20:57] <rek> hi can you help me to do a point to point?
[20:59] <sresu> rek | !ask
[20:59] <sresu> !ask
[21:00] <rek> can you drive me
[21:00] <rek> i asked
[21:00] <sresu> Whats the issue?
[21:00] <rek> i set it up but i don't have the internet in my client
[21:00] <sresu> You set what?
[21:01] <sresu> What are you trying to do?
[21:01] <rek> nat and ip forwarding ip s
[21:01] <sresu> Which client?
[21:01] <rek> i connected a pc to my pc with a ethernet cable
[21:01] <sresu> Ok..
[21:02] <rek> wifi access point---pc 2 nics internet on wifi-----eth cable------pc 1 nic(eth)
[21:05] <sresu> wifi access point?
[21:05] <sresu> Is the ethernet cable cross over?
[21:07] <sresu> I did that long back, had sopme problems but was resolved so I maybe able to help you right
[21:07] <sresu> rek: You got standard cable or cross over ones?
[21:08] <rek> the one used to connect your pc to your access point or router it has all the pins (i already managed to have an interent connection doing a point to point with this cable)
[21:10] <sresu> rek: Here
[21:10] <sresu> rek: There is difference between standard and cross over ones
[21:11] <rek> i know
[21:12] <sresu> rek: cross-wired ethernet cable RJ-45 with RX and TX lines crossed over, right?
[21:13] <sresu> rek: Or does your ethernet port supports automatic link negotiation?
[21:15] <rek> yes auto eth
[21:30] <Matt___> Salut
[21:31] <Matt___> Quelqun sais comment baisser la luminosité de mon portable sous Xubuntu 10.10 ?
[21:35] <ubuntu> hi
[21:35] <ubuntu> I need help
[21:35] <Margus> hi, I need help
[21:35] <Margus> I installed kubuntu
[21:36] <Margus> then applied all updates
[21:36] <Margus> and after reboot I only see grub command line
[21:36] <Margus> don't know much about grub
[21:36] <Margus> but running something like root hd0 says unknown filesystam
[21:37] <Margus> however, when I just install kubuntu and don't apply updates, I can boot
[21:37] <Margus> any ideas ?
[21:41] <mood> hi
[21:58] <wilhart> how did i upgrade to 10.10 plz
[22:22] <u19809> hi all, i seem to have lost my openoffice 'K' menu icons ... how can I restore them ?
[22:38] <wilhart> why does my playback give flickering with kde effects?
[22:39] <wilhart> tried vpdau,xv and gl
[22:39] <wilhart> i got a move with fireplace and the fire flickers!
[22:43] <wilhart> anyone?
[23:01] <wilhart> why does my playback give flickering with kde effects?
[23:23] <despair> hey all, banging my head into the wall over here, i can type the swedish chars (öäå) everywhere, but not in the kde konsole. they work in konsole ouside of X11, but not in kde konsole
[23:25] <epyon22> did any of you guys have problems with composing after upgrading to 10.10
[23:26] <nerdy_kid> epyon22 nope.  whats your gfx card?
[23:26] <despair> they dont seem to work in xterm either
[23:26] <epyon22> intel x3100
[23:27] <epyon22> worked great in 9.04 9.10 and 10.04
[23:27] <nerdy_kid> epyon22 does it work at all?
[23:27] <epyon22> it works but its slow and disables it self alot
[23:27] <epyon22> usally disabled as soon as i login
[23:28] <nerdy_kid> epyon22 hmm I have nvidia so I cant give many pointers.  Could always downgrade the intel driver
[23:28] <epyon22> yeah would any .kde config stuff get in the way?
[23:28] <jmichaelx> i don't think that downgrading the intel driver is an option....
[23:29] <jmichaelx> epyon22: in 10.10, many mobile intel gpu's are having a lot of performance issues
[23:29] <epyon22> ok no fixes yet?
[23:29] <jmichaelx> epyon22: the simplest solution seems to be reverting to 10.04.
[23:29] <epyon22> ugh lol
[23:29] <jmichaelx> epyon22: no good solution that i have found yet, and i have looked
[23:30] <nerdy_kid> jmichaelx: why not downgrade just the intel driver?  the xserver-intel package should do it, and the kernel too if he really needs it
[23:30] <epyon22> temping though i am enjoying this new default dark interface :)
[23:30] <jmichaelx> nerdy_kid: downgrade to which version?
[23:31] <jmichaelx> epyon22: i imagine that you could configure things in 10.04 to have the appearance you want far more easily than getting your intel gpu to function correctly
[23:31] <nerdy_kid> jmichaelx: he could just add the old lucid rep back in sources.list, apt-get update, downgrade the package and disable the lucid rep.  rather hackish, but it does work.
[23:31] <nerdy_kid> *should work
[23:32] <nerdy_kid> maybe downgrade all of X11
[23:32] <jmichaelx> nerdy_kid: i have not attempted that, but i do not think it would work..
[23:32] <jmichaelx> nerdy_kid: yes, all of X11 would have to downgraded with it.... i do not believe it is worth attempting
[23:32] <epyon22> if im going to downgrade x11 i miswell go back to 10.04
[23:32] <jmichaelx> epyon22: i very much agree
[23:33] <nerdy_kid> epyon22: well I would think that it would be easier to downgrade X then revert to lucid, but I suppose it depends on your setup
[23:33] <epyon22> i have a seperate home partition
[23:33] <epyon22> so its ez to downgrade
[23:34] <jmichaelx> nerdy_kid: it does depend, but with separate home partition, downgrading to 10.04 is a piece of cake
[23:34] <jmichaelx> epyon22: totally agree
[23:34] <nerdy_kid> jmichaelx: yeah I guess you are right.  idk, personally I would go the hard way, but thats me :D
[23:34] <epyon22> hmm
[23:34] <epyon22> haha
[23:35] <jmichaelx> nerdy_kid: nothing wrong at all with trying what you suggested, if a person has the time and inclination
[23:35] <epyon22> well thank you for your help guys im probally gonna stick with 10.10 for now wait for a fix and if i get frustrated with it ill just take it back down
[23:36] <RoDiMuS-X> Does Kubuntu have any advantages over ubuntu other than it uses KDE vs GNOME
[23:36] <epyon22> i enjoy all the new fixes like the new network manger and themes and the stuff that i havent played with yet
[23:36] <nerdy_kid> RoDiMuS-X: nope.  'cept that kde is prettier :)  (each have their own opinions about that however)
[23:37] <olskolirc> what toolkit do we use to C++ programming please?
[23:37] <RoDiMuS-X> nerdy_kid: Do you know if the ubuntu font is used in KDE
[23:37] <nerdy_kid> RoDiMuS-X: it can be, and is by default in 10.10 but personally I dislike the font and switched.
[23:38] <nerdy_kid> RoDiMuS-X: let me reword that, it can be only in 10.10 AFAIK.
[23:38] <RoDiMuS-X> Nerdy_kid: I am trying to decide if I want to switch desktops because of unity set to release in 11.04
[23:38] <KimLaRoux> http://apt.last.fm/ <== best repo page ever
[23:39] <jmichaelx> nerdy_kid: i am with you on the font change
[23:39] <nerdy_kid> RoDiMuS-X: yeah I don't know anything about unity.  Do know that I used to be a gnome guy until KDE hit 4.3.
[23:39] <nerdy_kid> jmichaelx: the ubuntu font just looks really icky to me on kubuntu.
[23:40] <jmichaelx> nerdy_kid: i have been feeling the same way
[23:40] <RoDiMuS-X> nerdy_kid: Would you say the screenshots of KDE on KDE.org and Kubuntu do not do it justice
[23:41] <nerdy_kid> RoDiMuS-X: kde is VERY flexible as far as looks go.  This is my setup currently http://yfrog.com/m9screenie13j.  I would say that the kde look sceenies are sometimes good, sometimes really bad.  the default theme is almost perfect in my opinon, I just lighten it up a little.
[23:41] <nerdy_kid> not the best screenie of my setup either....
[23:42] <Glaivlen> Hi, everyone! :D
[23:42] <nerdy_kid> hi :)
[23:43] <RoDiMuS-X> nerdy_kid: yeah that looks way better than Kubuntu and KDE screenshots
[23:43] <nerdy_kid> RoDiMuS-X: thanks :)  one thing I will say, that I would switch QT's gfx backend from Xrender to Raster
[23:45] <nerdy_kid> just did that to my setup today and things go waay faster now.  X11 uses like no CPU either -- used to use up to %30 of one of my cores.  You install kde-config-qt-graphicssystem
[23:45] <nerdy_kid> then change the setting in system settings.  I found that I had to tweak my fonts a little, but it is well worth it.
[23:46] <RoDiMuS-X> the work shows
[23:46] <nerdy_kid> thanks :)
[23:47] <RoDiMuS-X> What about using a dock such as AWN any issues in KDE
[23:48] <nerdy_kid> RoDiMuS-X: those look terrible.  They are all written in GTK, so thus stand out terribly.
[23:49] <RoDiMuS-X> nerdy_kid: there is no native dock other than the bar in KDE
[23:49] <nerdy_kid> I would recommed grabbing the svn version of the gtk-qt engine to make gtk apps blend in better, maybe the docks will look better then.
[23:50] <nerdy_kid> There are plasmoids that emulate a dock, a couple that look like a mac dock.  I have never found these very nice to use however.  kde 4.6 is going to have app pinning support, and I am sure the docks for kde will get much better after that.
[23:51] <nerdy_kid> so you _can_ use awn/any other dock if you want, but it will most likely look a tad bit funny.  gtk-qt engine does a pretty good job at hiding gtk apps, but it still will look a little different.
[23:51] <RoDiMuS-X> Yeah I don't like the MAC dock either
[23:52] <nerdy_kid> by default KDE has a windows like setup, as you probably have seen.  The task bar behaves just like it does in windows.  There are other task plasmoids you can use however.  personally, I cant wait for app pinning in 4.6.
[23:53] <nerdy_kid> oh I forgot, if you switch qt's backend to raster it breaks gtk-qt.  You are stuck with qtcurve for the gtk apps.


[00:35] <Croran> is there a better solution for adjusting mouse wheel speed in Ubuntu? imwheel sucks.
[00:36] <Croran> requires obsolete and unavailable xorg fonts package, has proven security vulnerability, requires you to activate a window before scrolling it in order to apply the proper scroll multiplier for that application...
[00:38] <lotuspsychje_> Croran: there's an old revived bug on ubuntu's mouse scroll speed
[00:38] <lotuspsychje_> Croran: so maybe in the future, we will get lucky
[00:39] <lotuspsychje_> Croran: meanwhile you can try your browsers tweaks to scroll faster
[00:40] <lotuspsychje_> bug #124440
[00:49] <Croran> lotuspsychje_: interesting. looks like they're not going to release it any time soon unfortunately.
[00:50] <lotuspsychje_> Croran: not sure if i understand the current status myself
[00:50] <Croran> "Kirby Kevinson
[00:50] <Croran> Kirby Kevinson @kirbykevinson · 4 months ago
[00:50] <Croran> Author
[00:50] <Croran> Since !1962 exists, I'll probably have to rewrite everything. Sorry for disappointing you, but we'll probably have to rely on libinput hacks for the time being."
[00:51] <Croran> oops. i don't know how that ended up as multiple lines :(
[00:51] <Croran> honestly i'd be happy with a libinput hack. unless he's just talking about imwheel.
[00:53] <Croran> I imagine someone could gain some noteriety by solving a 15-year-old bug that makes a noticeable change to basic user input haha
[01:04] <Croran> I wonder if the key is the 'high resolution' scrolling feature and just abandoning hardware that don't support said feature. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Libinput-1.20-rc1
[01:08] <lotuspsychje_> Croran: if you find something interesting, perhaps add it to the bug
[07:28] <chrx> anybody home
[08:42] <Croran> nope
[09:00] <stuxamber> hi, why is installing .net 6.0 on ubuntu a PITA?
[09:00] <stuxamber> like, it never works ever
[09:03] <stuxamber> dotnet-install: .NET Core SDK with version '6.0.200' is already installed.
[09:04] <stuxamber> dotnet --list-sdks <-- empty
[09:07] <stuxamber> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
[09:07] <stuxamber> why do they like to make things difficult,
[09:08] <piyush> Help me to remove nvidia drivers on mint
[09:52] <root____> hello
[09:53] <root____> I'm a newbie :-) and friendless
[09:55] <root____> hello ioe
[09:57] <root____> Ubuntu/list
[09:57] <root____> /Ubuntu/list
[09:58] <i_love_nutela> nutella
[09:59] <i_love_nutela> whois i_love_nutela
[10:01] <i_love_nutela> quit
[10:52] <scortal> ubuntu,#
[10:55] <rickbit-21> hey
[12:19] <mr_lou> So, this problem seems to be back again now: https://superuser.com/questions/1271193/ubuntu-blu-ray-burner-suddenly-not-detected
[12:19] <mr_lou> But this time I can't seem to enter grub boot to select a different kernel. SHIFT isn't working, and pressing ESC results in the grub menu disappearing. Any other way to entering the grub menu?
[12:20] <enyc> mr_lou: hrrm could try tapping down arrow, and changnig timing of when you hold down shift
[12:21] <enyc> mr_lou: also -- are you sure you have multiple kernels installed still?
[12:21] <enyc> mr_lou: if the kernel is the issue,  have you got a clear  kernel bugreport with ubuntu  and so it gets fixed in upstream kernel  etc. and won't keep relying on running and old kernel??
[12:23] <mr_lou> enyc, No, only found out just now. And last time I reported, it just expired.
[12:24] <mr_lou> Tapping down arrow...  thanks, will try that now.
[12:30] <mr_lou> No didn't work. Also tried setting GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and run sudo update-grub - but still no.
[12:34] <mr_lou> Trying with string
[12:36] <mr_lou> Nope, GRUB_DEFAULT doesn't work.
[12:36] <mr_lou> So how to change kernel.
[12:37] <mr_lou> Any command that reboots into grub?
[12:37] <mr_lou> Without needing to press/hold anything while booting?
[12:56] <mr_lou> enyc, Well, finally managed to boot on a previous kernel. Didn't work. So I've made a post on superuser
[12:56] <mr_lou> https://superuser.com/questions/1708320/ubuntu-blu-ray-burner-suddenly-not-detected-again
[12:56] <mr_lou> Thanks anyway.
[12:56] <mr_lou> I'm off again.
[14:39] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:41] <mr_lou> Well it would seem the the latest kernels for Ubuntu 18.04 doesn't support burning. https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/wodim-cdrecord-cannot-open-scsi-drive-4175544944/
[14:41] <mr_lou> lsmod | grep sr_mod
[14:41] <mr_lou> lsmod | grep sg
[14:41] <mr_lou> Both shows nothing.
[14:42] <mr_lou> Why is burning support suddenly removed?
[14:44] <Jeremy31> mr_lou: That question is from 7 years ago
[14:45] <Jeremy31> sr_mod and sg are built into the kernel
[14:46] <mr_lou> mkay... well, Ubuntu doesn't detect my burner anymore.
[14:46] <mr_lou> 2nd time it has happened. Last time (3½ years ago) it was the kernel.
[14:46] <mr_lou> Workarround was to boot on an older kernel.
[14:46] <mr_lou> Wasn't fixed for a long time.
[14:47] <JoeBK> mr_lou, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[14:47] <mr_lou> 18.04
[14:47] <mr_lou> LTS
[14:48] <JoeBK> maybe you should consider upgrading
[14:48] <mr_lou> Updates usually mean a bunch of stuff isn't working.
[14:48] <mr_lou> *Upgrades
[14:48] <JoeBK> 20.04 has been out for a while
[14:48] <mr_lou> Bad experiences.
[14:49] <mr_lou> No time to fix things.
[14:52] <JoeBK> I burn using a windows program called imgburn.
[14:53] <mr_lou> Me too
[14:53] <mr_lou> That's the only way I can burn blu-ray discs.
[14:53] <mr_lou> I don't understand why there are no Linux apps that can burn blu-rays yet.
[14:54] <mr_lou> But the Linux burning apps doesn't work for me either right now.
[15:41] <_quantum> Why do I have a blank screen after installing Ubuntu in safe video mode?
[15:41] <_quantum> Why did I have a blank screen when trying install in regular mode, which it kept slamming me to?
[15:42] <_quantum> Why don't I get a grub menu?
[15:44] <Maik> to get the grub menu on a single boot system press Shift when booting
[15:46] <_quantum> Does Ubunti just not have video on new AMD machines?
[15:53] <_quantum> Oh dear...
[16:01] <_quantum> Where is MrSassyPants when you need him?
[16:04] <scortal> ,
[16:08] <Maik> scortal: could you please stop with that, you've been posting none-related stuff in the support channel for two days now. Please move over to #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to have fun.
[16:12] <scortal> may be?
[16:13] <Maik> scortal: please read the rules/guidelines for this channel
[16:13] <scortal> rules and regulations?
[16:14] <Maik> scortal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines one of them says 'Don't be Annoying'
[16:15] <scortal> but it might ne true.
[16:16] <_quantum> Whell, this has been enlightening...
[16:16] <leftyfb> _quantum: what do you need help with exactly?
[16:18] <_quantum> leftyfb: Please look up...
[16:18] <leftyfb> _quantum: you mentioned multiple issues. Which issues are you having right now?
[16:19] <_quantum> All of them.
[16:19] <leftyfb> sorry, issue, 1 issue at a time
[16:19] <_quantum> Alright, never mind then.
[16:19] <leftyfb> _quantum: what version of ubuntu did you install and how did you install it and on what hardware?
[16:34] <CrowX-> I used to be able to extract the ubuntu iso to a fat32 flash drive and boot from it. What's changed and what's the simplest way to create a bootable ubuntu flash drive, without the "startup creator" program that's recommended on the official website?
[16:35] <enigma9o7[m]> dd
[16:36] <JoeBk> I use dd
[16:36] <enigma9o7[m]> `sudo dd if=ubuntu.sio of=/dev/sdc`
[16:36] <JoeBk> make sure of the device name of the flash drive
[16:36] <CrowX-> I'll try dd now. thanks.
[16:36] <CrowX-> yeah
[16:37] <JoeBk> run gparted to check device name
[16:37] <enigma9o7[m]> umount it first
[16:37] <oerheks> run sync after dd to be sure
[16:38] <phablet> elloh
[16:39] <phablet> hello?
[16:39] <Maik> hi phablet
[16:39] <phablet> sup
[16:39] <phablet> I have a question
[16:40] <Maik> if you have a Ubuntu support question just ask, casual talk is in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[16:40] <phablet> are you a human or robot
[16:41] <phablet> hello
[16:41] <Maik> phablet: seriously....
[16:41] <oerheks> no adele songs in here please
[16:41] <Maik> phablet:  again, if you have a Ubuntu support question just ask, casual talk is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:41] <enigma9o7[m]> we could of had it all....
[16:42] <phablet> guys
[16:42] <phablet> hello
[16:42] <Maik> phablet: stop it now please
[16:43] <phablet> what do you mean?
[16:43] <Maik> do you have a Ubuntu support question or not phablet?
[16:43] <oerheks> phablet, what is your support question?
[16:43] <phablet> are you human
[16:43] <Maik> ok, ignore it is
[16:44] <phablet> huma
[16:44] <phablet> 🙃
[16:44] <Maik> thanks tomaw
[16:45] <Maik> err... tomreyn
[16:59] <CrowX-> JoeBk, enigma9o7[m], dd didn't work.
[17:00] <CrowX-> When I select usb in the boot menu and press enter, I get a black screen and I'm brought back to the boot menu a second later.
[17:00] <enigma9o7[m]> What makes you think that?
[17:00] <JoeBk> CrowX-, exactly what command did you type?
[17:00] <CrowX-> My usb drive has a gpt label and a single fat32 partition.
[17:01] <CrowX-> JoeBk, dd if=/home/crow/kubuntu-20.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sda1
[17:01] <JoeBk> wrong!
[17:01] <JoeBk> device is sda not sda1
[17:02] <CrowX-> oh, so I should remove the partition first, and dd directly to device?
[17:02] <JoeBk> no, you don't need to remove partition
[17:02] <CrowX-> thanks, I'll do that now
[17:02] <JoeBk> the partition will get removed when you do the copy
[17:03] <CrowX-> JoeBk, yeah, makes sense.
[17:03] <scortal> conky!
[17:03] <JoeBk> did you check the device name of flash drive?
[17:04] <JoeBk> did you run gparted?
[17:04] <tomreyn> !who | scortal
[17:04] <oerheks> conky is fun, longest tread on ubuntu forums https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865
[17:05] <oerheks> 2340+ pages
[17:05] <CrowX-> JoeBk, yeah, I checked with parted
[17:06] <scortal> hahaha
[17:06] <scortal> :)
[17:06] <JoeBk> CrowX-, making a mistake with device name could trash your system.
[17:07] <ioria> CrowX-, quite sure 'sda' is not your usb device
[17:07] <JoeBk> ioria, yeah that looks strange.
[17:07] <JoeBk> CrowX-, do you have an nvme drive in that thing?
[17:07] <CrowX-> JoeBk, yeah, I know. And yeah, it's sda because there's no other sata disk on my system.
[17:08] <JoeBk> CrowX-, what is the system drive?
[17:09] <CrowX-> JoeBk, nvme0 on this computer
[17:09] <CrowX-> i.e. /dev/nvme0
[17:09] <JoeBk> ok, you got an nvme ssd
[17:10] <ioria> mistery solved
[17:24] <scortal> nvme.
[17:32] <tomreyn> scortal: do you have anything to add to this channel that's a support question or answer?
[17:36] <Paddy_NI> I am experiencing this odd bug where if I leave my pc unattended and come back (not sure how long) it will be almost impossible to make out what is on screen almost as if the brightness has gone to it's lowest.  This is very strange as it's a desktop PC and I have dim screen disabled and the put display to sleep disabled
[17:37] <leftyfb> Paddy_NI: do you have suspend disabled?
[17:37] <Paddy_NI> It's so difficult to see that I just press ctrl+alt+delete and press enter.  Using Ubuntu MATE
[17:37] <Paddy_NI> leftyfb: YEs
[17:38] <Paddy_NI> I might enable the restart x server keyboard combo as a temporary solution and just hope that I have no important tasks running
[17:38] <webchat85> i need help my bluetooth is not working i have a hybrid realtek adapter RTL8723DE
[17:38] <leftyfb> Paddy_NI: I would suggest figuring out how long it takes. Then try to replicate it while leaving the PC booted into the BIOS. Also, once you do reboot after it happening, you can look at logs: journalctl -k -b -1
[17:39] <Paddy_NI> leftyfb: It does not do this whilst in the bios
[17:40] <Paddy_NI> leftyfb: So far as I can tell it only does it on this Ubuntu MATE installation.
[17:40] <leftyfb> Paddy_NI: so you have done this experiment? Have you tried with a live cd/usb?
[17:40] <webchat85> anybody please help me
[17:40] <Paddy_NI> It only does this with the OS currently installed. If I install kde neon or Ubuntu (gnome) then the issue is not present
[17:41] <jhutchins> webchat85: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[17:41] <Paddy_NI> This is the second time I have installed Ubuntu MATE this past 2 weeks due to another unrelated bug that was caused by ProtonVPN
[17:41] <Paddy_NI> It did the same thing on that install too
[17:42] <Paddy_NI> brb Dog is loosing it's mind lol
[17:43] <aiena> I have installed an older ubuntu 18.04 VM using kvm. I am using kubuntu as the host. This issue however is a peculiar one and ony in the running ubuntu vm. Copy and paste is disabled and ctrl+c, ctrl+v even inside gedit in the vm don't work. Any ideas what could cause this?
[17:44] <aiena> in the right click menu the copy and paste options are greyed out. SOmetimes copy alone is white.
[17:45] <coz_> Paddy_NI, out of curiosity, can you tell me your hardware set up? cpu, memory, etc
[17:45] <JoeBk> CrowX-, did it work?
[17:45] <webchat85> i need help my bluetooth is not working i have a hybrid realtek adapter RTL8723DE
[17:47] <JoeBk> webchat85, I think you need to find out what driver needs to be installed.
[17:48] <aiena> hmm nevermind restarting the vm seemed to fix it.
[17:48] <aiena> but still weird
[17:48] <tomreyn> webchat85: open a terminal emulator and type this to post basic information on your ubuntu installation to the termbin.com website (where it is stored for 30 days):   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds; cat /proc/{version,cmdline})
[17:48] <JoeBk> webchat85, https://www.cse.iitd.ac.in/~mittal/wifi.html
[17:50] <tomreyn> JoeBk: that's for a different hardware
[17:50] <Paddy_NI> coz_: It's nothing special 16gb RAM, i7-2600, GeForce GT 1030.
[17:50] <Paddy_NI> coz_: Using the 470 driver for the Nvidia card
[17:51] <JoeBk> tomreyn: oh
[17:51] <Paddy_NI> coz_: Oh and two 1080p displays
[17:51] <coz_> Paddy_NI, i sent you a pm
[17:51] <tomreyn> JoeBk: and the github repository linked ther eno longer exists
[17:52] <tomreyn> JoeBk: there's also a chance that ubuntu provides native support for this hardware, but webchat85 runs an outdated version - i'm trying to learn whether that is the case.
[17:52] <JoeBk> tomreyn: I am clueless about bluetooth hardware.  I should keep quiet.
[17:53] <tomreyn> JoeBk: i'm, too, for the most part. ;) your help is appreciated.
[17:53] <JoeBk> tomreyn: oh that was a wifi driver
[17:54] <tomreyn> i think it combines both.
[17:54] <Jeremy31> webchat85: post URL from terminal for>  (lsusb; dmesg | egrep -i 'blue|firm') | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:55] <JoeBk> tomreyn: I have read bluetooth on ubuntu is a pain because there are so many drivers and it's hard to find the right one.
[17:56] <Ravage> all my BT adapters just work out of the box really
[17:56] <Ravage> but lets see if he manages to provide any useful information. useless to spend time on this if not :)
[17:57] <Ravage> ( i guess leaving means no )
[17:59] <aiena> JoeBk: Bluetooth actually isn't a pain usually
[17:59] <JoeBk> the key word there us "usually"
[17:59] <aiena> even wifi usually isn't unless you have one particular chip or something funky. I remember my TP LInk dongle not working.
[18:00] <aiena> But it worked on windows so then I knew it wasn;t a hardware issue. THen a lot of digging around and compiling the right driver and I got it working. But then wound up preferring LAN anyway
[18:01] <aiena> JoeBk: yes 'usually' BT is not a pain.
[18:01] <JoeBk> I never had an issues with drivers.  The trick is to buy a computer that is supported.
[18:02] <aiena> hmm that is tricky to know
[18:02] <Jeremy31> I just fix the kernel module
[18:02] <aiena> sometimes even just upgrading the OS is enough to make a so called unsupported thing supported
[18:02] <aiena> or the kernel
[18:03] <aiena> and sometimes you need to build your own driver like say for a new huion drawing tablet or wacom tablet etc.
[18:04] <jhutchins> !doesn't work
[18:05] <aiena> on ubuntu 20.04 etc my wacom works out of the box. On ubuntu 18.04 which I am stuch with on another system I need to build a wacom driver to get it to roll but then its fine again.
[18:05] <coz_> aiena, yikes, that's not good! and unexpected!
[18:06] <aiena> FOr me it isn't really unexpected. But it is an annoyance yeah.
[18:07] <aiena> My older tablet just died so I got a newer wacom model. The model number etc was there on ubuntu 18.04 so xsetwacom would work perfectly fine after I recompiled and installed input_wacom
[18:07] <aiena> the older tablet was plug and play for uvuntu 18.04 too
[18:08] <aiena> so yeah linux gives you great power but head scratching too to figure out and fix whatever is wrong.
[18:08] <aiena> lsusb etc. will give some hints definitely
[18:08] <coz_> aiena, sounds about right %)
[18:10] <coz_> aiena, wacom driver seems more a developer problem
[18:10] <aiena> coz_: I had bought a new huion tablet for home and kept the wacom for work. I thought I might not get the huion runnig on linux but was extremely thrilled that with a custom driver built 90% of it works.
[18:10] <aiena> coz_: well wacom driver was just an example it can be a newer processor or a newer wifi module or anything
[18:10] <coz_> aiena, excellent, how does that brand of tablet compare?
[18:11] <aiena> huion is cheaper more features but the nib feel of wacom cannot be beaten
[18:11] <coz_> aiena, OK, I figured there would be a downside
[18:11] <aiena> I cannot afford this large a wacom at the price point of the huion
[18:12] <coz_> aiena, understood, I have a small one and a 9x12 wacom
[18:12] <aiena> i would get no tilt with a wacom at this price so I am happy with both the products
[18:12] <aiena> I bought the Wacom One for office. I had the Wacom Bamboo before that was the best.
[18:12] <aiena> It had a rubber end too. I think then wacom stopped making those because of windows ink lol
[18:12] <aiena> the wacom bamboo died
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> lets keep it ubuntu support related please aiena coz_
[18:13] <coz_> aiena, yep , wacom is definitely the way, but difficulties in linx I havent seen since single digit ubuntu versions
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> we got a nice #ubuntu-discuss channel
[18:13] <coz_> understood
[18:26] <JoeBk> #ubuntu-offtopic is another channel of interest
[19:31]  * r5
[19:35] <scortal31> hm......
[19:35] <scortal31> ...
[19:40] <mr_lou> JoeBk, So I ended up upgrading. Didn't help. And now more things aren't working. ;-) Just as usual.
[19:41] <scortal> thinking about upgrading
[19:44] <JoeBk> mr_lou, sorry, I know nothing about bluray drives.  I'm not going to be much help.
[19:45] <JoeBk> err bluray stuff
[19:46] <quantum_> Need to diag a hard disk.  All the Cool Kids say just type 'disk', but Ubuntu's never heard of it.
[19:47] <Ravage> what kind of diagnostics to you need to run?
[19:48] <quantum_> I go # apt search smart |grep disk    aaand it says, "graphical hard disk health status notifier".    I don't know whether it's the disks or the zfs filesystem.
[19:49] <JoeBk> quantum_, to run disks you hit the super key and type "disks" in the box.
[19:49] <scortal> ZFS
[19:49] <quantum_> Seems like a perfectly simple question.
[19:50] <gordonjcp> JoeBk: doesn't that just partition disks?
[19:50] <Ravage> quantum_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[19:50] <gordonjcp> quantum_: what are the errors, and what does dmesg say?
[19:50] <quantum_> "Super" key?  What's that?  CentOS for 18 years.
[19:50] <JoeBk> gordonjcp, he wanted to run disks.
[19:50] <gordonjcp> quantum_: it's the same as the Super key in Centos
[19:51] <quantum_> Ravage: You can run an elementary test using dd bu writing /dev/zero or /dev/random.
[19:51] <JoeBk> quantum_, it the windows key.  I don't think that is going to help you anyway.
[19:51] <quantum_> Never heard of a Super key.
[19:52] <ogra> quantum_, it is what peope in the OSS world call the "windows" key
[19:52] <quantum_> Ok this is in an X2Go remote desktop so that key is intercepted by the host.
[19:52] <ogra> (the keycode is "Super" when you press it)
[19:52] <ogra> well, using  modern gnome desktop without super key is kind of tricky
[19:52] <quantum_> At CLI 'disk' brings up some guesses by apt.
[19:53] <ogra> *desktops
[19:53] <JoeBk> what is the alternative if you don't have a 'super key'z/
[19:53] <JoeBk> ?
[19:53] <quantum_> I'm KDE.
[19:53] <ogra> look for "gnome-disks" on CLI
[19:53] <quantum_> Always been KDE.
[19:53] <ogra> ah
[19:53] <TheLinuxNerd> quantum_, :-D
[19:53] <ogra> well, then i have no clue ... perhaps #kubutu does
[19:54] <Ravage> im not sure why we are looking for "disks"? he wants to check it his HDD is failing -> smartmontools
[19:54] <ogra> *#kubuntu
[19:54] <quantum_> # gnome<tab> just coughs up 'gnome-www-browser'
[19:55] <quantum_> apt search has never heard of gnome-disks.
[19:55] <ogra> well, if you are not on an ubuntu default install you might be better off in the flavour IRC channel
[19:55] <ogra> i.e. #kubuntu
[19:55] <ogra> they have their own tools
[19:56] <scortal> , would it be worth upgrading ubuntu
[19:56] <gordonjcp> quantum_: the Super key is these days generally defined as the Windows Flag key
[19:56] <Ravage> scortal: its free. so probably yrd
[19:56] <Ravage> yes
[19:56] <scortal> 22.04 any good?
[19:56] <gordonjcp> quantum_: but, previously it might have been Alt Gr, or any other random generally-not-used key on a PC keyboard
[19:56] <quantum_> ogra: Thanks for the input.  :[
[19:57] <ogra> scortal, peas take such things to #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:57] <gordonjcp> quantum_: it's only been a thing for about 30 or 40 years
[19:57] <gordonjcp> quantum_: anyway if your disks are failing don't diagnose them, back them up then diagnose them
[19:57] <ogra> quantum_, btw, i think the package name is gnome-disk-utility (the CLI command is gnome-disks)
[19:57] <scortal> thanks
[19:57] <quantum_> It is my backups array.  I've started over, abandoning the perinially busted Fedora.
[19:58] <gordonjcp> quantum_: "perennially", 'cos "perinially" sounds *ruuuude*
[19:58] <scortal> cosinus
[19:58] <gordonjcp> quantum_: of course that may have been exactly what you meant
[19:59] <quantum_> Ugh, Thank You ogra for the package name.
[20:00] <quantum_> Fedora is also peritinially busted.
[20:00] <gordonjcp> quantum_: Fedora is so bad it gave you peritonitis?
[20:03] <quantum_> Well gnome-disks only checks smart data and benchmarks.  It doesn't do actual tests.  I'll resort to dd.
[20:04] <JoeBk> I think there is a standalone disk diagnostic program.
[20:05] <quantum_> At least the SMART data reports the drives are good.
[20:10] <quantum_> And yes I'm not the greatest at human anatomy, being a real estate developer...
[20:23] <scortal> yea real estate works great.
[20:37] <MyUSerNB> Hi, i have a home server which one website on it with letsencrypt + nginx. And have wireguard vpn subscription. I can connect to wireguard from the server very simply. But my website can't be reached any more on port 443. Should forward port 443 on my server or contact the provider to let the port open?
[20:44] <JoeBk> MyUSerNB, there is a #wireguard channel.
[20:44] <MyUSerNB> JoeBk really, they can create channel? woow
[21:25] <LoUDcLoUD> hello folks
[21:25] <LoUDcLoUD> how can i use hfp headset on ubuntu?
[21:29] <zaggynl> hi LoUDcLoUD, how far do you get if you try to use it?
[21:31] <LoUDcLoUD> i can get it to work via a2dp
[21:31] <LoUDcLoUD> by default
[21:31] <LoUDcLoUD> but can't use mic becuase it's not hfp
[21:32] <Jeremy31> So sound settings wont let you change it to hfp/hsp
[21:32] <LoUDcLoUD> correct
[21:34] <Jeremy31> LoUDcLoUD: there was a workaround a few years ago for the opposite issue.  You had to install blueman, then right click device, go to sound profile, choose off, then disconnect the headset, reconnect then you could use the other sound profile
[21:40] <LoUDcLoUD> well i got blueman
[21:41] <LoUDcLoUD> switched the profile but it's weird the video slows down and there's no sound
[21:41] <LoUDcLoUD> apparently hfp is enabled but for some reason it fails
[21:47] <Jeremy31> LoUDcLoUD: post URL from terminal for>  (lsusb; dmesg | egrep -i 'blue|firm') | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:49] <while>  when I `systemctl start nfs-server` I get 'Job for nfs-server.service canceled.'
[21:49] <while> and from `systemctl status nfs-server` https://pastebin.com/yc0XW78S
[21:54] <jhutchins> !nfs
[21:55] <jhutchins> while: Looks like rpc may not be available.
[21:55] <LoUDcLoUD> Jeremy31, https://termbin.com/zpck
[21:56] <Jeremy31> LoUDcLoUD: What kernel?
[21:58] <LoUDcLoUD> Linux 5.13.0-30-generic
[22:00] <scortal> yo
[22:02] <Jeremy31> LoUDcLoUD: what wifi card do you have?
[22:04] <LoUDcLoUD> Jeremy31, 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8821CE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
[22:27] <sybariten> so
[22:28] <sybariten> surely the standard behaviour of a ubuntu distro booted off usb, from a machine that also has an internal HD, is to show that HD on the desktop so you get a chance to mount it?
[22:31] <Bashing-om> sybariten: Yes - is there hardware issues ? what shows ' sudo fdisk -lu ' ?
[22:32] <Jeremy31> LoUDcLoUD: I am not sure why it isn't working.  There is a generic entry in the source code for realtek bluetooth devices that should work
[22:33] <JoeBk> LoUDcLoUD, have you tried contacting the people who made the thing?
[22:33] <tomreyn> sybariten: this may depend on the "ubuntu distro" you're referring to, as well.
[22:35] <sybariten> Bashing-om: well, it's there, it's a 300 gb on sda, i guess sda2 is the one i'm interested in....   but the drive makes occasional clicking noises, like once every hour. But i'm not sure that is related to my actual problem which is a boot problem
[22:35] <sybariten> (i think i had the clicking noises for a long time on this machine)
[22:35] <sybariten> tomreyn: oh, ok. Yeah it was just my memory that it usually is visible and one can just click it.
[22:36] <leftyfb> sybariten: clicking isn't good. In ubuntu, try to mount it while running this in another terminal: dmesg -Tw
[22:40] <sybariten> leftyfb: no i know. It's often a cry for help. But i won't store anything important on this drive, it's kind of a test computer for different things
[22:42] <sybariten> leftyfb: nothing too interesting i'm guessing: [Sun Mar  6 22:41:46 2022] EXT4-fs (sda2): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[22:44] <tomreyn> sybariten: unmount all file systems from this disk, install smartmontools, run     sudo smartctl -x /dev/sda    and share the output on a pastebin.
[22:45] <tomreyn> sybariten: and tell us which 'ubuntu distro' you're running there.
[22:46] <sybariten> think its 20
[22:46] <leftyfb> sybariten: cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:47] <sybariten> VERSION="20.04.2 LTS (Focal Fossa)"
[22:47] <sybariten> so smartctl is run on the whole disk and not a partition?
[22:51] <sybariten> disk analysis:  https://termbin.com/nmhc
[22:52] <sybariten> anywho, now i gotta figure out how i can make this machine boot this disk (as it used to do). Right now i am getting a "boot failure" message. I'll need to make sure this is really the case, i suppose, and i'll come back here....
[22:54] <gordonjcp> ah, this is so annoying
[22:55] <gordonjcp> if I've got my phone connected to my PC, it only gives me an option for "PTP"
[22:55] <gordonjcp> I guess there's no way to actually get files off it?
[22:55] <gordonjcp> without using pointy-clicky stuff
[22:59] <tomreyn> sybariten: the 'smart' report looks fine, meaning no serious problems have been recorded. you could optionally run a short self test (-t short) and see whether that changes things.
[23:04] <sybariten> tomreyn: thanks for lookingn at it
[23:06] <sybariten> so i don't know much about boot loaders but i
[23:07] <sybariten> so i don't know much about boot loaders but i'm suspecting this machine has a broken boot loader somehow. Is GRUB still what's used for a fairly modern version of ubuntu?
[23:08] <sybariten> And if so can i somehow do something from inside a USB booted distro, to write out something new to disk perhaps?
[23:11] <tomreyn> yes and yes. what you'd need to do may depend on how the mainboard is setup to boot, tough.
[23:12] <tomreyn> i.e. whether its classic bios or current uefi booting
[23:13] <tomreyn> the fdisk output from earlier may hint on this
[23:16] <sybariten> tomreyn: aha?
[23:18] <sybariten> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/9z5c
[23:32] <Ravage> if you are currently running from a live usb you can try these commands: https://p.haxxors.com/y2cc7uh4.txt
[23:43] <blei> can I see all files read in a subdirectory for a period of time, ie, while a program runs?
[23:57] <Ravage> blei: inotifywait -m -e access /your/path
[23:57] <Ravage> package needed: inotify-tools
[23:58] <blei> find . -amin 1