[18:39] <Areckx> auronandace::  such as a book or article that really helped
[18:39] <Areckx> celthunder::  I:m interested in reading that
[18:39] <auronandace> Areckx: to learn about wine perhaps you could read the wine documentation...
[18:39] <Areckx> celthunder::  I want to achieve proficiency with linux so I can work effectively in an office
[18:40] <Areckx> auronandace::  I don:t want to use wine
[18:40] <auronandace> Areckx: funnily enough the wine documentation could be found at their winehq website
[18:40] <Areckx> auronandace::  I would like to be able to run a winxp application as if it were native to linux
[18:40] <celthunder> akem: 3d usb is almost always laggy/slower to register, more advanced processor functions are not always available...depends on the type of vm.
[18:40] <auronandace> Areckx: wine is about as native as you can get
[18:41] <celthunder> auronandace: that would have required googling and reading for about 3 seconds to realise that.
[18:41] <Areckx> auronandace::  I have had many problems with it in the past
[18:41] <auronandace> Areckx: unless the application was designed as cross platform
[18:41] <celthunder> sniperwolv: whats wrong with it
[18:41] <akem> celthunder, also depends of the actual machine you run the VM on, and OS i guess.
[18:41] <Areckx> celthunder::  I have done the googling thing many years
[18:41] <wylde> this discussion is getting way !ot, maybe move it to #ubuntu-offtopic? ...just sayin'
[18:41] <Areckx> celthunder::  have you ever spent three days without an answer?
[18:42] <auronandace> Areckx: i don't think you are listening to our answers
[18:42] <akem> i remember USB wireless on VM without issue.
[18:42] <gvo> lol I've spend a lifetime without an answer.
[18:42] <Areckx> wylde::  I really am just chatting, is that the place to idle chat?
[18:42] <mac> Hi, could anyone explain what this command is doing? It's for a git/gitolite setup, but I'm not sure of what it's exactly doing, would just like to get an basic understanding of it :)
[18:42] <mac> sudo -u git -H sh -c "PATH=/home/git/bin:$PATH; gl-setup -q /home/git/gitlab.pub"
[18:42] <wylde> Areckx: yes
[18:42] <auronandace> Areckx: do you understand the difference between windows and unix-like system architecture?
[18:42] <celthunder> Areckx: yes, at which point i ask and when i get a suggestion i research it for another 3 days before asking 20 more idiotic questions
[18:42] <Areckx> auronandace::  I am, I would just like to know why I should use WINE
[18:43] <wylde> !ot | Areckx
[18:43] <gvo> mac are you sure?
[18:43] <auronandace> Areckx: because wine is designed to be used for exactly what you are asking for: running windows apps natively on linux
[18:43] <celthunder> Areckx: what does this program you are looking at installing do
[18:43] <mac> sure about what?
[18:43] <gvo> That command line mac
[18:44] <supernova> some one help me with ruby installation
[18:44] <supernova> please please
[18:44] <wylde> !details | supernova
[18:44] <supernova> i have been trying one thing from yesterday
[18:44] <gvo> mac that's not going to work.  sudo -u <username> <command> is the format.  You're either missing the command or the user name.
[18:44] <supernova> i m running ubuntu 11.10
[18:45] <supernova> i installed ruby following all the details which i was suppose to do
[18:45] <celthunder> gvo: mac i think you need git twice there judging from the home dir
[18:45] <supernova> and after completing it worked also
[18:45] <supernova> and after i logged out and logged in again
[18:45] <supernova> it says  The program 'ruby' can be found in the following packages:
[18:45] <celthunder> gvo: mac  besides that wont work anyway...you have 2 commands...sudo will only run the first..
[18:46] <supernova> this is the problem i am facing
[18:46] <gvo> celthunder: I think you're right.
 <celthunder> What it's doing, specifcially, at the end, after its run gl-setup
[18:46] <Daulity> hi
[18:46] <Robson92> gvo: ok, it seems that router causes problems
[18:46] <Daulity> what could be the blame for this? Autostarting VPN 'server'
[18:46] <gvo> Robson92: That's a start.
[18:46] <sniperwolv> what can I do to recover files from my hdd? what live  version is recommended
[18:46] <celthunder> Daulity: your vpn program
[18:47] <Daulity> yea
[18:47] <wylde> supernova: what method did you use to install ruby? Was it from the repos? Or did you use a ppa or compile from source?
[18:47] <celthunder> sniperwolv: dd?
[18:47] <sniperwolv> yea
[18:47] <Robson92> gvo: that's almost solution :)
[18:47] <Daulity> but how do i find out what could be the blame within the program/any files?
[18:47] <gvo> mac it probably won't run the second command correctly.
[18:47] <sniperwolv> I need to do that
[18:47] <celthunder> gvo: mac or the first
[18:47] <supernova> RVM
[18:47] <sniperwolv> how do I get to DD or use DD
[18:47] <gvo> Robson92: Do you have  another router?
[18:48] <celthunder> sniperwolv: open a terminal..
[18:48] <supernova> sudo apt get ruby 1.9.2
[18:48] <mac> but if I was to just run the last, on its own what would it do? I'm not sure of the last part :/
[18:48] <mirbot> my mouse is out of control
[18:48] <Blah1> hey all.  any preseed experts?
[18:48] <Areckx> auronandace::  Oh okay, thank you
[18:48] <sniperwolv> lol I have never used linux in my life thats why im here to get help
[18:48] <gvo> sniperwolv: dd can be dangerous.
[18:48] <mirbot> gahhh
[18:48] <mirbot> why is it moving on its own
[18:48] <Areckx> auronandace::  that was exactly the answer to my question, thank you.
[18:48] <Robson92> gvo: no but I'll try restarting dhcp on it and if it won't work i'll reboot router
[18:48] <auronandace> Areckx: what are you trying to run anyway?
[18:48] <sniperwolv> well my raid is already ruined so I might as well try and recover if I can
[18:48] <Areckx> auronandace::  for specifics, I will read the documentation, of course
[18:48] <wylde> !tab | supernova
[18:48] <celthunder> gvo: it should let him recover files...or at least get the data of them :)
[18:49] <Areckx> auronandace::  Nothing in particular, just want to know the concept
[18:49] <gvo> sniperwolv: Take a look at http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html
[18:49] <sniperwolv> ty
[18:49] <Areckx> auronandace::  I was actually thinking maybe Final Fantasy XI
[18:49] <celthunder> Robson92: have you tried ifconfig instead of using dhcp
[18:49] <supernova> ubottu:- so what i am supposed to do
[18:49] <auronandace> Areckx: i think that is platinum in the appdb
[18:49] <sniperwolv> I downloaded the ubuntu 11.10 desktop live cd can I use that to get to this DD?
[18:49] <Areckx> auronandace::  Fighterx 75smn 75blm 70pld 71rdm 70drg etc etc
[18:49] <gvo> Robson92: What brought you to the idea the router is the problem?
[18:50] <Robson92> celthunder: linux is not a problem
[18:50] <supernova> wylde:- is there a way to fix this
[18:50] <celthunder> Robson92: whats wrong with the router then? and what kind of router is it
[18:50] <gvo> sniperwolv: dd yes, I don't know if ddrescue is on there.
[18:50] <Robson92> gvo: because laptop (windows) can't get ip via dhcp too (only wireless works)
[18:50] <supernova> sudo apt-get install build-essential git-core curl libmysqlclient16-dev nodejs
[18:50] <supernova> i used this command
[18:50] <gvo> Robson92: Good point.  Power cycle the beast.
[18:50] <supernova> then used a command to install curl
[18:51] <rymate1234> hey
[18:51] <sniperwolv> yeah my brother told me to use a live cd to see if I can see/acess the files first then move on to DD
[18:51] <rymate1234> Simple question
[18:51] <rymate1234> I have a ubuntu server
[18:51] <celthunder> rymate1234: simple answer yellow
[18:51] <rymate1234> how to change the timezone via bash?
[18:51] <Robson92> celthunder: I'm checking that now. Standard for home users, not some kind of high-class stuff ;)
[18:52] <celthunder> rymate1234: date
[18:52] <wylde> supernova: the first command you said you used would have installed curl....
[18:52] <rymate1234> celthunder: thx
[18:52] <supernova> yes after that i installed RVM using curl
[18:52] <gvo> rymate1234: tzconfig maybe
[18:52] <supernova> sudo bash -s stable < <(curl -s https://raw.github.com/wayneeseguin/rvm/master/binscripts/rvm-installer)
[18:52] <bodhi_zazen> rymate1234: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[18:53] <gr33n7007h> rymate1234, tzselect
[18:53] <bodhi_zazen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Using_the_Command_Line_.28terminal.29
[18:53] <wylde> supernova: this page may be of interest. http://johan.driessen.se/posts/Getting-Ruby-on-Rails-1.9.3-to-work-on-Ubuntu-11.10
[18:53] <supernova> then apt-get install ruby-rvm
[18:53] <gvo> rymate1234: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man8/tzconfig.8.html
[18:53] <celthunder> rymate1234: bazhang hmm man date showed date -s :/ hmm *updates self*
[18:54] <supernova> will check that out try and come back here again
[18:54] <celthunder> Robson92: awe :( try to get ddwrt or something on it...easier to work with
[18:54] <LukeNukem_> hey
[18:54] <LukeNukem_> isn't there a netbook edition?
[18:54] <LukeNukem_> can someone give me the link, i cant find it on the website
[18:54] <Roasted> Question - does anybody know what protocol I am to use if I use No-IP with ddclient on Ubuntu? It gives me several options, but researching the topic has come up with NoIP simply saying "we use an open protocol" but they never reference the name.
[18:55] <rymate1234> meh
[18:55] <gvo> LukeNukem_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR
[18:55] <rymate1234> says I don't have permissions
[18:55] <rymate1234> which is odd
[18:55] <wylde> supernova: alrighty, I probably won't be here, but in future support requests, try to be very clear what the problem is, what steps you took, and any errors you encountered. Try to keep it all on one line, if it's more than 3 lines, then break it up into multiple posts.
[18:55] <rymate1234> I run as root user
[18:55] <gvo> rymate1234: sudo
[18:55] <rymate1234> I run as root user
[18:55] <wylde> !enter | rymate1234
[18:55] <Robson92> celthunder: I have openwrt
[18:55] <Blah1> Roasted, i assume ddclient is just using dns protocol
[18:56] <celthunder> Robson92: hmm...then its not likely the router firmware thats bad at least
[18:56] <Roasted> Blah1, I wasn't sure what to answer with when I saw it. :(
[18:56] <gvo> rymate1234: what command is telling you that you don't have permission
[18:56] <Blah1> Roasted, you can always do a tcpdump to sniff and see which protocol
[18:56] <mbeierl> Is UNR still maintained?  I thought Unity was seeking to be the new replacement...
[18:56] <Blah1> i'm pretty sure dns just uses udp
[18:57] <celthunder> rymate1234: if you are root then you shoul really never get a permission error you cant override
[18:57] <sniperwolv> when I load this live cd what do I type in its all command promot
[18:57] <wylde> !root
[18:57] <Roasted> Blah1, udp? No... not that kind of protocol - http://1-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/www.liberiangeek.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Enable-Pa.10-Oneiric-Ocelot-with-OpenDNS_86EA/504x264xopendns_oneiric_7_thumb.png.pagespeed.ic.28mK7-Fini.jpg
[18:57] <sniperwolv> and then what
[18:57] <celthunder> sniperwolv: mdam could probably help you with your raid
[18:57] <Robson92> celthunder: well... before changing to openwrt my tp-link had been crashing 5-10 times a day, now it has been running without reboot for almost 2 months
[18:58] <auronandace> mbeierl: unity replaced the netbook edition
[18:58] <celthunder> Robson92: yep :) sounds about right..
[18:58] <mac_> ok this is crazy, how do I reply back to someone specifically in a chat? Can't find a basic IRC guide with that info anywhere? :/
[18:58] <Blah1> Roasted, ah, i get what you're saying.  it's an app level 'protocol'
[18:58] <sniperwolv> whats mdam
[18:58] <sniperwolv> nvm
[18:58] <auronandace> !tab | mac_
[18:58] <wylde> !tab | mac_
[18:58] <sniperwolv> googled it
[18:58] <Roasted> Blah1, is that to say they'll all work and I have my own choice?
[18:58] <Roasted> Blah1, I took it as, I NEED to pick the proper one...
[18:58] <jhaddad> how do i figure out if a mounted drive is a sw raid?
[18:59] <Blah1> ya it's proprietary so i think u have to pick the right one to use w/ your ddns provider
[18:59] <gvo> mac_: Start the line with the nick.
[18:59] <celthunder> mac_: type the nick or /query or privmsg or msg if in telnet or raw its privmsg NICK message
[18:59] <jhaddad> someone set up a server on AWS and I don't know if they raided EBS
[18:59] <mbeierl> LukeNukem_, so the UNR link you were given is for the older versions.  The newer (11.10 onward) versions use unity which is already a netbook-friendly interface
[18:59] <marcosa> +i marcos
[18:59] <mac_> gvo Thanks
[18:59] <mac_> gvo: Thanks!
[18:59] <celthunder> mbeierl: you can use whatever ui you want in any version
[19:00] <gvo> LukeNukem_: You'll probably hate yourself if you install Unity.
[19:00] <zykotick9> jhaddad: if you type "mount" what are the devices associated with the filesystem in question?  sdX or somthing else?
[19:00] <gvo> mac_: Both work.
[19:00] <jhaddad> 19:00:44@SHARD3BILL1B-BILL1_LEGACY# mount
[19:00] <jhaddad> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw)
[19:00] <jhaddad> none on /proc type proc (rw)
[19:00] <jhaddad> none on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[19:00] <jhaddad> none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[19:00] <FloodBot1> jhaddad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:00] <jhaddad> none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[19:00] <jhaddad> none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
[19:01] <celthunder> jhaddad: pastebin
[19:01] <jhaddad> my bad.
[19:01] <mbeierl> celthunder, sure you can.  However, the UNR is not maintained for newer versions.  That's the point I was making.
[19:02] <jhaddad> i'm guessing /dev/mapper/vg--ebs--rightscale-lvol0 on /ebs type xfs (rw,noatime) is what i'd want to look at - would it mention a raid here?
[19:02] <celthunder> mbeierl:yeah...
[19:02] <casualx> in which file is the default gatway adress saved?/etc/hosts?
[19:02] <lostogre> casualx, /etc/network/interfaces
[19:03] <mbeierl> celthunder, :(
[19:03] <celthunder> jhaddad: looks like lvg....
[19:03] <jhaddad> http://pastebin.com/62UiMdFs
[19:03] <celthunder> mbeierl: what?
[19:03] <Xtreme> guys, i need to isntall windows 7 for my sister.. but i dont want to loose ubuntu, and when i  will install windows 7, i wont be able to boot to ubuntu, so what i can do to recover the boot(grub)?
[19:03] <jrib> !grub | Xtreme
[19:03] <Andre_H> Am i right here to ask a question regarding 'Ubuntu/Linaro 4.5.2-8ubuntu4' ? It's about crti.o which is meanwhile in thumb mode, but used to be arm mode. How can i detect which  one i use from source level?
[19:04] <celthunder> Xtreme: you can readd the bootloader after you install windows ....
[19:04] <gvo> Xtreme: Be sure to not clobber the Linux partitions.
[19:04] <moto1> anyone know why virt-install from the archive.ubuntu.com servers stopped working for ubuntu 11.10? the exact command that worked for me 2-3 months ago now fails with a "ERROR    Error validating install location: Invalid install location: Opening URL http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/installer-amd64/current/images/. failed."
[19:04] <lostogre> in precise, ubuntu-notifier-common stalls when trying to download adobe-flashplugin. What is the fixed?
[19:04] <lostogre> s/fixed/fix
[19:04] <celthunder> Andre_H: someone hasnt updated in a while lol
[19:04] <kitxa> Hi, I have 2 ubuntu computers and a LAN wire, how do I connect them using IPv6?
[19:04] <Andre_H> celthunder: why?
[19:04] <gvo> moto1 have you done a apt-get update recently?
[19:05] <moto1> it's a fresh install but i'll try
[19:05] <gvo> moto1: If it's fresh then that probably wont' do anything.
[19:06] <zykotick9> lostogre: reask in #ubuntu+!
[19:06] <gvo> moto1: You mentioned working a while ago.
[19:06] <zykotick9> lostogre: reask in #ubuntu+1
[19:06] <lostogre> zykotick9, thanks.
[19:06] <moto1> i think you gave me the clue, something is screwed up with my WAN connection
[19:07] <gvo> moto1: that might be a problem. :)
[19:08] <robertzaccour> would it be a better idea to install kde or kubuntu-desktop? I currently use Gnome-Shell.
[19:08] <moto1> haha yes, i was able to connect internally so i didn't think that was the issue, and 3 months ago i had a hell of a time finding the current working URL for the virt-install. i assumed it had changed again, and obviously i was wrong
[19:09] <Geodesical> Hi! I have been trying to use InkScape on my 11.10 system, but after about 15 minutes of use, the program freezes. I can minimize and move the window, but I cannot close it. Any help?
[19:09] <Robson92> gvo: thanks for help :) byebye
[19:09] <gvo> bye
[19:11] <Geodesical> Hello?
[19:13] <Geodesical> I do believe I've been ditched.
[19:14] <zykotick9> Geodesical: is the inkscape you are using from the default repository?  what graphics card are you using on this system?
[19:15] <Geodesical> Graphics Card, I am not sure. and I got InkScape by entering (sudo apt-get install inkscape) in the terminal.
[19:15] <zykotick9> Geodesical: do you know what pastebin is?  can you pastebin "apt-cache policy inkscape".  to find GFX card "lspci | grep -i vga"
[19:16] <Xtreme> does ubuntu have any defrager in it?
[19:16] <zykotick9> Xtreme: nope
[19:16] <zykotick9> Xtreme: what filesystem are you using?
[19:17] <Xtreme> can u suggest me one to defrag a windows partition? ext4, want to defrag a ntfs partition
[19:17] <moto1> gvo, thanks, hopefully next time i won't have such a dumb question
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Xtreme: i'd only use Windows for that
[19:18] <Geodesical> zykotick9: Graphics Card: VGA compatible controller: Intel 82915G/GV/910GL Graphics controller (rev 04)
[19:19] <Xtreme> ActionParsnip: dont have windows installed right now.. formatted it.. its a ntfs storage partition :)
[19:19] <zykotick9> Geodesical: well, if it's intel - it's unlikely a graphics driver issue...
[19:20] <Xtreme> so was wondering is there any way i can do that through linux
[19:20] <jhaddad> celthunder: thank you.  just read up on pvdisplay / lvdisplay / vgdisplay, gives me everything I need
[19:21] <Geodesical> zykotick9: The graphics card runs PC games fine. The program just freezes. I can open other windows of InkScape, but they all stop after 15 or so minutes.
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Xtreme: ntfs is propriarary to Microsoft. So any tool not made by Microsoft will be a best effort and due to the nature of defrag and what it does I'd only trust the official tools. If you have no Windows, why use ntfs?
[19:22] <zykotick9> Geodesical: so, the other part of my question - can you pastebin "apt-cache policy inkscape" for the channel?
[19:22] <zykotick9> !paste | Geodesical
[19:22] <jdhfr> ActionParsnip: because it is the most universal filesystem
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Geodesical: have you tested RAM health?
[19:22] <Xtreme> ActionParsnip: only one reason. sister :(
[19:22] <zykotick9> jdhfr: are you saying ntfs is the most universal filesystem?
[19:22] <Xtreme> her windows, her storage partitions, and her viruses
[19:23] <jdhfr> zykotick9: I just did
[19:23]  * nitroNix is back. "LiCe: It picks up chicks!"
[19:23] <bali> yeah the #c is not= functioning
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> jdhfr: fat16 is more universal. Amigas can read the filesystem. Doesn't mean it should be used
[19:24] <bali> I need to do a forward slash / in c
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Xtreme: so she uses it in a windows pc?
[19:24] <Geodesical> ActionParsnip: No, how would I do that?
[19:24] <jdhfr> fat16/32 aren't to today's standard. NTFS does
[19:24] <Xtreme> yes, she uses that partition to store her data.
[19:24] <jrib> bali: the channel is ##c but you need to be registered.  See ubottu's message
[19:24] <jrib> !register > bali
[19:24] <nitroNix> jdhfr: standard? MS standard  :D
[19:24] <Xtreme> same laptop.. just her 2 partitions, and my two partitions..
[19:25] <Geodesical> zykotick9: I do not know how to use pastebin... :-/
[19:25] <Xtreme> mine both ext4 and a swap (she doesnt know :D)
[19:25] <jdhfr> all standards are made by companies
[19:25] <zykotick9> Geodesical: it probably doesn't matter - don't worry about it (it probably default anyways...).  Well, hopefully someone else will have a suggestion - good luck.
[19:26] <Geodesical> zykotick9: Thanks!:-D
[19:26] <mbeierl> jdhfr, most USB sticks use FAT, not NTFS...  Are you talking about popularity, or ...?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> jd225: fat16/32 are accessible by more systems making it universal. You said nothing of standards. Ntfs is not standard either, it proprietary garbage. You'll find more systems use ext3 in the great scheme of things
[19:27] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: tab fail ;)  jdhfr ^^ see above
[19:27] <mbeierl> Say, ActionParsnip, is there still an upper limit on FAT?  What if I have a 1tb usb disk that I want to share between Linux, Mac and Windows...?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> D'oh. Fat fingers
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: max file size is 4gb. Not sure about partition size
[19:29] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip, ya, I was thinking about the partition...
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: i'm unsure of mac but if it can access ntfs the go that way due to robustness
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: if windows wasn't as junky as it is, it would be able to read ext based filesystems and you could use ext4 etc :-)
[19:32] <MrKeuner> hello, is it safe to enable ubuntu-proposed repository?
[19:32] <MrKeuner> Lucid here
[19:33] <supernova> wylde: u there
[19:35] <jase_> mbeierl: I've got a fat32 partition that's a 1tb drive in a single partition
[19:37] <jdhfr> 16 TB is its max
[19:37] <maxdel74> buonasera
[19:37] <maxdel74> ciao
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> !it| maxdel74
[19:38] <celthunder> jase_: that sounds useless
[19:38] <maxdel74> ?list
[19:40] <jase_> cellthunder: it's just a data partion on a portable drive
[19:40] <yzhd> I have been syncing cm7 source for 10 hours. It's almost finished.. but it's stuck at : Fetching projects:  99% (212/214)  What should I do ? I have been waiting for 1 hour.. nothing has happened
[19:42] <jdhfr> #git
[19:42] <maxdel74> come si fa a scaricare?
[19:42] <maxdel74> ciao
[19:45] <Areckx> is there a way to clear the playlist from terminal in VLC?
[19:45] <maxdel74> ciao
[19:48] <bobo37773> yzhd: Either keep waiting or pause and continue. What else can you do?
[19:53] <borillion> can I install a new os on a hard drive and run mdadm to assemble my old raid to get files off?
[19:54] <Jacruth> guys, what does this mean? error: asm/page.h: No such file or directory
[19:54] <Jacruth> I'm trying to compile SDL and it says: error: asm/page.h: No such file or directory
[19:55] <jase_> Jacruth: you're missing something the compile needs in order to work..one of it's dependancies
[19:56] <blue_> Salut
[19:56] <Jacruth> jase_, do you know any cool way to upgrade or install SDL to >= 1.2.4?
[19:58] <jase_> Jacruth: sorry, no unless someone has a PPA set up already
[19:58] <Fizzik> is there usually any problems updating versions when a new version comes out like updating my 11.10 to 12.04
[19:59] <jrib> Fizzik: there isn't supposed to be...
[19:59] <zykotick9> Fizzik: but there OFTEN is...
[19:59] <ldiamond> well, I'd certainly hope there isn't supposed to be.
[19:59] <Pici> zykotick9: er.. I think many people would disagree with you there
[19:59] <jrib> I don't know about "often" or "usually" but of course bugs exist
[20:00] <ldiamond> Fizzik, The more "Standard" your system is, the less likely there will be issues
[20:00] <ldiamond> by "standard" I mean least customization done by you
[20:00] <zykotick9> Pici: the number of "regulars" here that recommend fresh installs seems to support my "often"
[20:01] <ldiamond> A fresh 11.10 will upgrade to 12.04 without problems usually
[20:01] <ldiamond> I doubt, you'll have a fresh install.
[20:01] <StepNjump> Hi, how to create a desktop link to a specific website by using the ln command please?
[20:01] <Fizzik> it just kind of sucks doing fresh installs every 6 months.. yea ill be trying it so yea
[20:01] <StepNjump> man ln
[20:01] <jrib> in any case why wouldn't you try the upgrade first...
[20:01] <ceti331_> i was expecting my 11.10 to upgrade and it isn't
[20:01] <sirriffsalot_> Hey guys! I'm trying to route flash-player videos through jack, but I can't get past the "make" stage of this guide: http://jackaudio.org/routing_flash thanks to this error "flashsupport.c:184:28: fatal error: linux/videodev.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated." Any ideas?
[20:01] <ldiamond> Fizzik, the best way is to install with a separate /home partition. That way you can keep all your stuff and change the OS completely
[20:01] <Fizzik> ceti331_: id want untill 12.04 is actually released
[20:02] <jrib> Fizzik: my current system once ran 5.10 and I've only done a fresh install once
[20:02] <ceti331_> ok :)
[20:02] <Fizzik> jrib: oh :P ok
[20:02] <botter> Hey guys. I just got hit by a ddos attack (that has stopped now). There are a few hundred failed ssh connection attempts to root from an IP in China, and one owned by ATT, but I'm looking for any logs that may help me figure out what happened
[20:02] <ldiamond> Fizzik, you can also stick with LTS releases and upgrade every two years
[20:02] <botter> with the ddos side.
[20:02] <zykotick9> ldiamond: or 5 years with 12.04
[20:02] <botter> I didn't have any tools set up. Does Ubuntu log any packet flood type things by default?
[20:02] <Fizzik> ldiamond: i think thats what im going to do
[20:02] <ceti331_> Ubuntu Unity is nice.. i dont know why it gets so much flak
[20:02] <ldiamond> zykotick9, yea I was referring to the time between release, i.e. upgrading when a new LTS comes out.
[20:03] <jrib> Fizzik: my advice would be to do the upgrade.  If you have an issue, stop by here for help :)  You do of course have backups anyway so worst case-scenario you do a fresh install
[20:03] <Fizzik> ceti331_: im more of a xfce or gnome fan
[20:03] <ldiamond> Though the separate /home partition is really useful
[20:03] <StepNjump> but I don't want to use the launcher
[20:03] <ceti331_> Here's what I like:- when you maximize, it does not waste screenspace
[20:03] <ceti331_> merging menu and titlebars works, IMO
[20:03] <Fizzik> i like the docks at the bottom thats why i love xfce
[20:04] <ceti331_> the one thing I DO miss though, is having a Desktop Thumbnail on the panel
[20:04] <Fizzik> ceti331_ yea it awesome
[20:05] <ceti331_> if unity had a single button per desktop - one click to get there - that would be a lot better. I also like the mousewheel behaviour
[20:05] <Fizzik> im going to be using xubuntu on my htpc that im building
[20:06] <ceti331_> actually tbh I likek the default gnome setup a lot, just without the top panel. the way KDE comes is great too
[20:06] <ceti331_> i quick mouse shortcut for desktops would sort me out in unity...  know you can activate screen corners, but I like being able to roll the mousewheel on the desktop to switch
[20:07] <martinphone> where do I ask for help regarding streamtuner?
[20:07] <zykotick9> !alis | martinphone you could try this... or if it's from ubuntu's repo, ask here
[20:08] <ceti331_> i've just changed my unity colorscheme to be more mac-like and for some reason its given me much better vibes.. i actually feel like i'm using ubuntu because its good rather than because its different
[20:08] <zykotick9> ceti331_: do you have a support question?  general chit-chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:09] <Xtreme> guys which app to use to open .chm file?
[20:09] <Xtreme> html help file?
[20:10] <Fizzik> xCHM
[20:10] <OerHeks> Xtreme, ".chm" files are typically help files for the MS Windows platform. i am not sure it is legal to do this on Linux.
[20:11] <Fizzik> Xtreme: sudo apt-get install xCHM
[20:11] <Xtreme> OerHeks: i wanted for php manual
[20:11] <StevenR> OerHeks: lots of things come as chm
[20:11] <Xtreme> xchm, Fizzik thanks
[20:11] <zykotick9> OerHeks: fyi chm are compiled HTML files (but yes, typically MS Help)
[20:11] <Fizzik> alot of O'Reily's books came with a digital disc copy of it and they were done in .chm files
[20:11] <fl1bbl3> Xtreme: if you use firefox then https://addons.mozilla.org/nl/firefox/addon/chm-reader/
[20:12] <Xtreme> fl1bbl3: thanks,
[20:12] <popsch> is anyone running using duply for their backups? I can't seem to find a way to stop duply when the pre-script fails
[20:13] <sogeking99> hey guys, how can i update my java for minecraft
[20:13] <Andre_H> wine hh yourhelp.chm also works
[20:13] <Xtreme> and can someone please suggest me a irc replacement for konversation?
[20:13] <auronandace> Xtreme: xchat or irssi
[20:13] <Fizzik> Xtreme: if you want a gui client i would suggest Xchat
[20:14] <jmadruga> close
[20:14] <Xtreme> thanks :)
[20:14] <Fizzik> Xtreme: if you want to use through term either irssi or weechat
[20:15] <sogeking99> ?
[20:16] <Xtreme> multiple server support?? please say yes :)
[20:17] <fl1bbl3> Xtreme: irssi has yes
[20:17] <fl1bbl3> extremely good client imo
[20:17] <Xtreme> cool thanks :)
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> i use irssi, too
[20:18] <sogeking99> does anyone know?
[20:18] <fl1bbl3> sogeking99: java -version?
[20:18] <mikkelb> hey
[20:18] <mikkelb> If you guys like Irssi -- check out https://gist.github.com/1602971
[20:19] <mikkelb> aka "THE SIMPLEST, MOST READABLE IRSSI THEME POSSIBLE"
[20:19] <jjava> if i wanted to copy files on a drive via liveDVD to another network computer how would you work through the user permissions issues that are certain to come up
[20:19] <sogeking99> java version "1.6.0_22" is that the latest?
[20:19] <fl1bbl3> no
[20:19] <fl1bbl3> 1.6.0_23 is iirc
[20:20] <sogeking99> fl1bbl3, ok, so how can i update?
[20:20] <fl1bbl3> should be in repos
[20:20] <fl1bbl3> just do an upgrade
[20:20] <fl1bbl3> is it sun java or openjava?
[20:22] <sogeking99> says OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.10.6)
[20:22] <sogeking99> sorry im new to linux
[20:23] <sogeking99> whats the terminal command to update java
[20:23] <tech936> hey anyone know a room for nlackbuntu
[20:23] <tech936> *blackbuntu
[20:24] <fl1bbl3> then should be in repos
[20:24] <auronandace> !alis | tech936
[20:24] <tech936> auronandace !alis the room?
[20:25] <tech936> oh nvm lol
[20:26] <ejo> Hi all, I'd really like to fresh-install 12.04 beta right now.  My one concern is: when release comes out soon will I be in a worse position than if I just waited for release in the first place?  Will upgrading be messy?
[20:27] <ejo> Or is there any other reason to hold back?
[20:27] <zykotick9> !final | ejo
[20:27] <ejo> thanks zyk
[20:27] <tech936> still no help
[20:27] <tech936> lol
[20:27] <zykotick9> ejo: IMO the only reason to install beta is to report bugs...
[20:27] <ejo> yeah, just feels strange to install 11.10 two weeks before release of 12.04.
[20:27] <ejo> i'm not on a mission-critical box here, just a development machine
[20:28] <ejo> The focus of my question, I should have said, is more on whether upgrades are still "messier" than clean installs as I used to hear in the past.
[20:29] <auronandace> ejo: clean installs will always be better than an upgrade, less can go wrong
[20:29]  * ejo nods
[20:29] <audifahrer> Hi
[20:29] <tensorpudding> ejo, you can install 12.04 right now, it's in beta but is pretty close to release standing
[20:30] <tensorpudding> you can expect tons of updates in the coming days though
[20:30] <ejo> definitely.  I'll just go for it... would rather do that than figure out what's borked with my X11 right now on 11.04
[20:30] <ejo> xD
[20:30] <slikts_> why doesn't this work? I do "cd; mkdir foo; touch foo/bar; cd foo; ln -s bar ~/bar; cd; ls -l", and the bar symlink is displayed as "bar -> bar", i.e. it's broken
[20:31] <audifahrer> has anyone yet got lightdm configured to support XDMCP? I could login with Xephyr from a remote machine, but with gdm XDMCP from remote I couldn't connect
[20:31] <audifahrer> any ideas how to debug this?
[20:32] <zykotick9> slikts_: "ln -s bar ~/bar" says to create a symlink in ~ called bar - but that's the directory you created...
[20:32] <jrib> slikts_: it does what you asked it do.  ~/bar points to bar (relative to the location of ~/bar)
[20:33] <jjavaholic> copying user #1002 files over the network how would i do that well?
[20:34] <jrib> slikts_: I always think of it as ln -s TARGET NAME   and keep in mind if TARGET is a relative path, it's relative to where NAME is located
[20:34] <rubia> hello everyone. could someone help me with some problems login in X with a nis user?
[20:34] <slikts_> jrib, zykotick9: thanks, I found out that it behaves like this because of -s
[20:34] <jrib> slikts_: well -s creates a symbolic link.  This is different than without -s (hard link)
[20:34] <slikts_> jrib: I understand
[20:40] <fl1bbl3> jjavaholic: rsync
[20:41] <tyler_d> trying to mount an ssd drive(sata) and I'm certainly not winning, it shows up in dmesg but only a single line... please help
[20:42] <theGrg> Well alias 'sudo command' = ... doesn't work. How can I have an alias apply to a command issued with sudo?
[20:44] <metbsd> how can i upgrade from 11.04 to 11.11
[20:45] <metbsd> how can i upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10
[20:45] <ceti331> question : Can Unity be configured to trigger desktop overview from say middle click on the background image
[20:46] <donavan01> does anyone know of a program that will duplicate copy protected dvd's for linux much like anydvd/clonedvd does in windows... I am not looking to pirate movies here... our church group has a vast library of movies and rather than loaning out the orginals we would like to be able to loan out a copy an keep the orginal as a backup as people tend not to be very kind to the dvds... some discs copy just fine but others are copy p
[20:46] <donavan01> rotected and I would like to get away from supporting the use of microsoft if at all possible
[20:47] <diamonds> I get "device is busy" every time I try to umount this sshfs mounted drive
[20:47] <guntbert> !upgrade | metbsd
[20:48] <diamonds> oh
[20:48] <diamonds> I started my tmux session from the mounted location :p
[20:48] <diamonds> lsof | grep mountname found it
[20:49] <metbsd> that's so complicated and i missed it, lol
[20:59] <liljabuntu> i am running unbuntu 11.10 and i am trying to connect my ipone to the computer and keep getting unhandled lockdown error -15 can anyone help me fix this issue?
[20:59] <auronandace> !iphone
[21:01] <trism> liljabuntu: try: sudo apt-get install libimobiledevice-utils; idevicepair unpair && idevicepair pair; then try to mount it in nautilus again
[21:01] <fishcooker> is there any package that i need to remastered ubuntu live CD to fit  my spesific need
[21:01] <fishcooker> ?\
[21:01] <auronandace> !remaster | fishcooker
[21:02] <deb0> Anyone knows if pyrename can create directories? I want to batch rename files and automatically create directories
[21:04] <iToast> e-e
[21:04] <iToast> Can I cluster windows and linux
[21:04] <iToast> well, ubuntu
[21:04] <iToast> So windows sends its load to my ubuntu cluster
[21:05] <sudipta> I have a problem with empathy....when the chat window is closed and someone messages me....only the notification appears...the mail icon in the panel does not change its color and nothin is displayed in the me  menu...in ubuntu 11.10
[21:05] <deb0> seems like pyrenamer does it
[21:06] <ceti331> is it possible to set up drag drop LAN filetransfer (in the file browser) between linux & mac (i've not even done that between linux and linux yet..)
[21:06] <guntbert> !crosspost | iToast
[21:06] <schultza> how do i install git ?
[21:06] <schultza> sudo apt-get install git ?
[21:06] <Logan_> schultza: sudo apt-get install git
[21:06] <iToast> guntbert: ... Im putting it in a more general linux area
[21:07] <schultza> ok.. thanks
[21:07] <Xtreme> how can i find the directory to which software was isntalled?? i installed eggdrop using apt-get
[21:07] <ceti331> i tried ubuntu one but it seemed to play up a bit
[21:07] <schultza> no candidate version found for git
[21:07] <Xtreme> and cant find its directory
[21:07] <avinashhm> Hi , how i want to setup a cron job, which uses sudo commands .. is there any way to specify the sudo password , so that it can pick automatically ..
[21:07] <Areckx> Is there a way to log a terminal window into a txt file?
[21:08] <fl1bbl3> avinashhm: why wouldn't you just run it under roots crontab?
[21:08] <fl1bbl3> Areckx: script
[21:08] <avinashhm> fl1bbl3, thats a good idea .. i will install under roots crontab
[21:08] <Areckx> fl1bbl3::  thank you
[21:08] <Xtreme> i am able to access it in terminal
[21:08] <avinashhm> fl1bbl3, thank you
[21:09] <fl1bbl3> np
[21:09]  * Areckx gives fl1bbl3  a cup of coffee and a donut.
[21:09] <avinashhm> fl1bbl3, just curious .. is there any way to specify root pwd by default ..
[21:09] <fl1bbl3> avinashhm: sudo su -
[21:09] <fl1bbl3> and then once you drop into a shell just do a passwd
[21:10] <fl1bbl3> Xtreme: just updatedb and then do a locate?
[21:10] <avinashhm> fl1bbl3, yep .. but still u need to specify sudo pwd .. how to do in shell scripts with crontab .. a sudo cmd ?
[21:11] <ubuntu> qba
[21:11] <ubuntu> hello
[21:12] <fl1bbl3> avinashhm: not needed
[21:12] <fl1bbl3> avinashhm: sudo crontab -e
[21:12] <sudipta> I have a problem with empathy....when the chat window is closed and someone messages me....only the notification appears...the mail icon in the panel does not change its color and nothin is displayed in the me  menu...in ubuntu 11.10
[21:12] <fl1bbl3> installs your stuff under the root crontab
[21:12] <Xtreme> how long it takes for updatedb?
[21:12] <fl1bbl3> Xtreme: less than a min usually
[21:12] <fl1bbl3> depends on size of disk, number of files, etc
[21:13] <Xtreme> 2 mins passed
[21:13] <fl1bbl3> what size of disk?
[21:13] <fl1bbl3> plus when was the last time you did it?
[21:13] <avinashhm> fl1bbl3, ok .. gr8 ... thank you very much
[21:14] <Xtreme> updatedb: `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db' is locked (probably by an earlier updatedb)
[21:14] <Xtreme> what to do/\?
[21:15] <Zx432> Anyone has any experience with OKI printers?
[21:15] <Xtreme> delete mlocate?
[21:15] <fl1bbl3> Xtreme: you did sudo it yeah?
[21:15] <Zx432> I have C5100 and it will only print black and white in linux.
[21:15] <Xtreme> yeah
[21:16] <Xtreme> rm -f mlocate.db
[21:16] <sudipta> I have a problem with empathy....when the chat window is closed and someone messages me....only the notification appears...the mail icon in the panel does not change its color and nothin is displayed in the me  menu...in ubuntu 11.10
[21:16] <Xtreme> now reupdating
[21:18] <whereismywal> hello
[21:19] <whereismywal> who is the mod?
[21:19] <sharkmap> trying to get a laptop to connect to a samba share on another computer (both are 11.10) but it fails to connect to the workgroup. Any ideas on how to figure out the problem? I am pretty sure everything is installed, but may not be configured right. thanks in advance
[21:20] <alteregoa> i got a problem with meowrnel 3.3.1
[21:21] <Fyodorovna> whereismywal, generally the channel #ubuntu-ops is where you would go if important.
[21:22] <meganerd> sharkmap, did you give a user access with smbpasswd -a?
[21:23] <meganerd> sharkmap: there are also logs in /var/log/samba
 not sure I did that. how would one do that if one were to do it?
[21:24] <meganerd> sudo smbpasswd -a <username>
[21:24] <meganerd> sharkmap: the -a is only for new users
[21:25] <mafiaboy> hi
[21:25] <mafiaboy> sometimes i prefer to run linux in terminal mode......so is there a way to run pdf in terminal mode
[21:26] <mafiaboy> ?
[21:26] <sudipta> I have a problem with empathy....when the chat window is closed and someone messages me....only the notification appears...the mail icon in the panel does not change its color and nothin is displayed in the me  menu...in ubuntu 11.10
[21:27] <legs> ?
 what should I be looking for in the samba log?
[21:28] <dbgster> I have a process ID, how can I get a description of what is running?
 also, do I run the smbpasswd on the laptop or the PC with the samba server? sorry for being so new
[21:29] <mafiaboy> quit
[21:33] <meganerd> sharkmap: on the server
[21:34] <meganerd> sharkmap: also the logs are stored based on the client IP/hostname, and you basically look for problems.  In this case I suspect you will see authentication errors
[21:36] <legs139> exit
[21:36] <linsux> how do i change language in xubuntu?
[21:37] <pensacola__> you can use this command: gnome-language-selector
[21:39] <sharkmap> meganerd: I'll check the logs, thanks. we'll see what we find.
[21:40] <whereismywal> hi, i am trying to install ubuntu on my exisiting windows 7 laptop but everytime the installer loads my screen goes blank
[21:40] <whereismywal> can someone help me with this
[21:41] <__r00t__> 'elo chaps ... any of you guys good with linux software RAID ? mdadm etc ?
[21:41] <bastidrazor> __r00t__: you're using 12.04 and you shouldn't cross post.
[21:41] <__r00t__> bastidrazor: I'm on 11.04 actually :)
[21:42] <DrManhattan> I am unable to get WOL working
[21:43] <__r00t__> DrManhattan: what do you need to know ?
[21:43] <DrManhattan> I have tried a few different things, nothing works. I have it enabled in the bios
[21:43] <DrManhattan> __r00t__, I need to know how to enable WOL !
[21:43] <DrManhattan> or know if it is not a working feature in ubuntu
[21:43] <DrManhattan> b/c it worked just fine in windoze
[21:43] <__r00t__> DrManhattan: from the remote machine send a magic packet to the machine that is asleep and presto it should wake
[21:44] <ulrichard> Since I upgraded to ubuntu 12.04, Ican no longer compile my cmake projects that use an avr-gcc
[21:44] <ulrichard>  corsscompiling toolchain. The message I get is :
[21:44] <ulrichard>   The C compiler "/usr/bin/avr-gcc" is not able to compile a simple test
[21:44] <ulrichard>     program.
[21:44] <ulrichard>  I get the error only when cmake is called from dpkg-buildpackage. If I call cmake directly on the commandline, it works.
[21:44] <FloodBot1> ulrichard: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:44] <ulrichard>  debian/rules is in gnu make format.
[21:44] <DrManhattan> __r00t__, I know how it's supposed to work. It works great in windows. The box doesn't wake up in linux
[21:44] <EvilResistance> whats the command syntax for the 'cp' command to copy and retain the permissions on the folders/files?
[21:45] <Zx432> Any Idea why OKI C5100 won't print in colour?
[21:45] <mafiaboy> hi guys
[21:45] <Boohbah> EvilResistance: cp -a
[21:45] <Boohbah> EvilResistance: this also includes --recursive
[21:45] <__r00t__> DrManhattan: let me get you a command you need to set under linux
[21:45] <Boohbah> EvilResistance: man cp
[21:45] <__r00t__> DrManhattan: brb
[21:45] <mafiaboy> any console based version of emacs as i run linux sometimes in terminal mode
[21:45] <DrManhattan> thank you
[21:45] <Boohbah> EvilResistance: cp -p for preserve with no recursive
[21:46] <EvilResistance> Boohbah: thanks, i'm on via my mobile phone and not in front of a linux machine, but i did need that info :P
[21:46] <__r00t__> DrManhattan: ethtool -s eth0 wol g
[21:46] <Boohbah> EvilResistance: http://linux.die.net/man/
[21:47] <DrManhattan> __r00t__, yeah that didn't work either
[21:47] <__r00t__> DrManhattan: :/ Damn.... worked for me dude
[21:47] <DrManhattan> :(
[21:49] <__r00t__> DrManhattan: ethtool eth0 | pastebin please
[21:49] <ulrichard> Since I upgraded to ubuntu 12.04, Ican no longer build packages where cmake is called from debian/rules with an avr-gcc corsscompiling toolchain.
[21:49] <ulrichard> The message I get is : The C compiler "/usr/bin/avr-gcc" is not able to compile a simple test program.
[21:49] <__r00t__> Anyone want to help me mess around with RAID ? Go on you know it'll be fun :)
[21:49] <DrManhattan> alrighty one sec __r00t__
[21:50] <Daulity> is there a command to temporarly turn of ipv6?
[21:50] <Daulity> temporarily
[21:51] <Daulity> like turn off and on again
[21:51] <DrManhattan> __r00t__, http://pastebin.ca/2137349
[21:53] <zykotick9> ulrichard: reask in #ubuntu+1
[21:55] <__r00t__> DrManhattan: :( How about doing some debugging .... read wol over the internet and use that on your lan to test
[21:55] <__r00t__> http://info.solomonson.com/content/doing-wake-lan-wol-over-internet
[21:58] <DrManhattan> thanks __r00t__ maybe im just missing something
[21:59] <eightiesk> so who here hates unity?
[21:59] <OerHeks> !poll | eightiesk
[22:00] <eightiesk> ugh'
[22:00] <DrManhattan> f'ing weak. no WOL for me.
[22:01] <__r00t__> DrManhattan: but it works in windoze !
[22:01] <DrManhattan> yep
[22:01] <|Anthony|> ok, where do i store public rsa keys?
[22:01] <__r00t__> |Anthony|: Anywhere ? :)
[22:01] <|Anthony|> ....
[22:02] <|Anthony|> on the host machine, where do i import the key for a ssh client
[22:02] <|Anthony|> like if i store the client key on a usb drive, where do i put it after that
[22:03] <|Anthony|> and don't tell me to bend over and you'll show me
[22:03] <|Anthony|> ;)
[22:04] <linsux> how do i mount windows share?
[22:05] <westernanalog> i am connected to inet with a mobile modem. i have also set up a wireless ad-hoc network with my windows pc. it works fine, but i cannot access inet from my windows pc. i set the wireless ip4 mode to shared. what have i done wrong?
[22:09] <bastidrazor> !ics | westernanalog may help
[22:09] <yeats> |Anthony|: .ssh/authorized_keys in the user's home directory
[22:10] <tonk> whats a good mouse macro program?
[22:10] <tonk> for ubuntu
[22:10] <Areckx> xjoy?
[22:11] <fl1bbl3> xdotool
[22:11] <fl1bbl3> which is awesome
[22:11] <fl1bbl3> for all sorts of things
[22:12] <tonk> ty :)
[22:14] <Areckx> should I use scim for Japanese input?
[22:14] <trism> Areckx: ibus is the default in recent ubuntu versions
[22:15] <Areckx> trism::  I am unable to use the space key to convert to kan ji
[22:15] <Areckx> trism::  and also do not know how to convert to katakana or romaji
[22:15] <Areckx> in windows it was f7-etc
[22:17] <Monkey_b> hey guys is there any reason a file would lose its encoding after being scp'd?
[22:17] <kiama2005> Ubuntu 11.10 will not recognise the floppy drive any idea's.
[22:17] <fl1bbl3> encoding as in its no longer ASCII?
[22:17] <fl1bbl3> Monkey_b: checked hashes both ends?
[22:18] <trism> Areckx: after you have installed the japanese support in Language Support you can configure ibus with ibus-setup and the anthy keybindings with /usr/lib/ibus-anthy/ibus-setup-anthy
[22:18] <trism> Areckx: I don't know that there are defaults, I usually set alt+1 to hiragana alt+2 katakana and alt+3 latin
[22:18] <trism> Areckx: ctrl+space is the default to switch input methods on/off
[22:20] <Monkey_b> fl1bbl3: charset is what i meant
[22:20] <fl1bbl3> tonk: http://www.semicomplete.com/projects/xdotool/xdotool.xhtml
[22:20] <fl1bbl3> and I run a whitelist script, you need to be explicitly added to send me pm's
[22:20] <Monkey_b> i do a 'file -i' on the source before sending, and it shows 'charset: utf-8'... i fo a 'file -i' on the destination, and it doesnt show a charset... and when i open it the special characters are screwed up
[22:21] <eightiesk> !wubi
[22:21] <Monkey_b> seems to only affect this particular file
[22:22] <joseph_> Hi, How do I get ubuntu to automatically connect to my wifi without asking for the key ring password?
[22:23] <dalton2345> save the code joseph_
[22:23] <zykotick9> joseph_: lol, good luck with that...  you have autologin enabled?
[22:24] <trism> Areckx: oh you should also make sure to set the input method to ibus in Language Support
[22:24] <joseph_> when I boot ubuntu, my account automatically logs in but the wifi will not connect until I type the password for "key ring"
[22:25] <zykotick9> joseph_: i don't think there is a "solution" to that.  If you turn off autologin, you won't get the keyring password.
[22:25] <__r00t__> anyone want to help me with RAID ... prizes are available !
[22:25] <Areckx> trism::  checked, it's set to ibus
[22:26] <joseph_> hmmm, so I guess everybody in here that uses wifi has to type that pass word in?
[22:26] <zykotick9> joseph_: i'd guess most users don't use autologin
[22:26] <Fyodorovna> joseph_, right click the icon go to settings click on wifi then edit and make sure all users and auto connect are ticked on.
[22:27] <wylde> joseph_: I don't, but I don;t use autologin either.
[22:27] <tjiggi_fo> joseph_, in "edit connections" at the bottom check the "make available for all users"
[22:27] <zykotick9> Fyodorovna: tjiggi_fo i don't think either of your suggestions addresses the keyring issue involved here.
[22:29] <chiliblue> keyring mandger prompt comes up when the desktop loads how can I fix that
[22:30] <zykotick9> chiliblue: turn off autologin ;)
[22:30] <chiliblue> as I load straight into xbmc it stops my remote from working
[22:30] <chiliblue> zykotick9, not really an option for a htpc
[22:30] <wolfric> is /bin/bash in ubuntu, actually bash or dash?
[22:30] <rebe> how do I force python run in terminal to use 4 spaces indentation instead of 8 ?
[22:31] <wolfric> (in debian /bin/bash is just dash anyway)
[22:31] <Pici> wolfric: its bash. /bin/sh is symlinked to dash
[22:31] <ox1de> Hi. my laptop died and i get this message on boot: No init found. try passing init= bootarg.
[22:31] <ox1de> busybox v1.13.3 (ubuntu 1:1.13.3-ubuntu11) built in shell (ash)
[22:31] <ox1de> enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[22:31] <ox1de> (initramfs) [  3.060259 ieee1394: host added: id:bus[0-00:1023] GUID[000ae4aaaa27c398]
[22:31] <FloodBot1> ox1de: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:31] <ox1de> what should i do?
[22:31] <dj_ryan> a question - how do i get a upstream dhcp server to tell dnsmasq 'strict-order' or whatever?
[22:31] <ox1de> is there a code sequence i can enter to get it back online?
[22:31] <fishcooker> where firefox save the played youtube video?
[22:32] <fishcooker> how to reveal it
[22:32] <fishcooker> ?
[22:32] <Pici> rebe: what do you mean? indentation is a feature of your editor, not the terminal.
[22:32] <fl1bbl3> fishcooker: it doesn't
[22:32] <fishcooker> how to save the played youtube video fl1bble3
[22:32] <zykotick9> fishcooker: they are deleted immediately now - they aren't saved like they used to be.  there is a way to get them though.
[22:32] <fl1bbl3> fishcooker: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/
[22:33] <fishcooker> is fl1bbl3 way also your way zykotick9
[22:33] <OomElvis> Q: can i just delete /var/log/mail.log ? will there be any repercussions... guessing not?
[22:33] <OomElvis> same for syslog.1
[22:33] <zykotick9> fishcooker: using a download-addon of some sort is a lot easier then getting the deleted files
[22:34] <fishcooker> omg
[22:34] <zykotick9> fishcooker: no, they're different - fl1bbl3's is way easier
[22:34] <fishcooker> its 1gigs file
[22:34] <fl1bbl3> eh?  what is?
[22:34] <rebe> pici: so I cannot change it ? when I write python in terminal, python starts obviously, and it uses 8 spaces indentation instead of 4, and that annoys me
[22:35] <ox1de> can anybody help me?
[22:35] <Pici> rebe: I've never tried.  The folks in #python should be able to help with the settings for the interactive interpreter though.
[22:38] <ratcheer> rebe: That is one of the reasons I prefer Ruby to Python.
[22:38] <ox1de> ???????????
[22:38] <ox1de> iz anybody out there?
[22:40] <ratcheer> ox1de: All I can say is, I hate it when that happens.
[22:40] <ox1de> me too
[22:40] <ox1de> what should i do?
[22:41] <Monkey_b> anyone know why a file would seemingly turn from utf-8 on one machine, to a file that has no 'charset' after being transferred to another server via scp?
[22:41] <ratcheer> ox1de: I don't remember. It hasn't happened to me in about three years.
[22:41] <Pici> ox1de: Why did it 'die'?
[22:41] <ox1de> i dont know
[22:41] <ox1de> everything seemed fine
[22:41] <ox1de> and now it says that error message on boot
[22:42] <Pici> ox1de: Do you see grub when you boot?
[22:42] <ox1de> what is grub?
[22:42] <Pici> ox1de: the boot menu.
[22:42] <ratcheer> Uh oh.
[22:42] <ox1de> teh boot menu with the user login screen u mean?
[22:43] <ox1de> or do u mean bios?
[22:43] <ratcheer> No, it is between those. Hold the Shift key when booting, it should give you the grub screen.
[22:44] <sean_> is positive thinking just self reassurance?
[22:45] <estel_> anyone here no how to add/remove icons with the openbox desktop and the dock?
[22:45] <ox1de> ok i got grub
[22:45] <ox1de> now what?
[22:45] <ox1de> recovery mode?
[22:45] <ratcheer> Pici?
[22:46] <Unguided> Hello all. Does anyone know if the tivo slide remote will work with ubuntu. I would like to use it for mythtv control. Thanks in advance?
[22:46] <navajo> help tried to install windows 8 system crashed said hard drive was only 32 gigs.. So I decide to leave windows forever how to reformat drive.. and delete this windows 8?
[22:47] <sean_> navajo boot from a linux cd and follow the instructions
[22:47] <skel> navajo: the installer should give you the option to format etc.
[22:47] <Pici> ox1de: then press e, and append init=/bin/bash   to the end of the line, then press enter and boot it
[22:47] <avinashhm> Hi , which is the package which is responsible for command line colors .. like all the colorful interface when we run alsamixer ..  i am running alsa mixer , but i am getting strange characters in the terminal .. guess color package is missing ..
[22:48] <navajo> navajo: Problem now my cd/dvd drive only sees a cd drive? is this uefi causing problems machine is only a 1.2 ghz intel with 2 gigs ram..
[22:50] <sean_> navajo, don't know navajo, that's not an ubuntu issue
[22:51] <splic> Is it possible to have /boot as a logical volume in LVM on top of RAID1 and still be bootable? I'd rather not have to make two md's (one for the PVs and one for /boot).
[22:52] <sean_> splic, what's an md?
[22:52] <splic> sean_: raid volume
[22:53] <navajo> sean_: Thats the problem cant install ubuntu? because drive only reads 32 gigs when is actually 200 gigs!
[22:53] <ox1de> what exactly do i do in grub?
[22:54] <ox1de> press e then what?
[22:54] <sean_> ox1de, pray :)
[22:55] <sean_> what is it you want to do
[22:55] <Unguided1> navajo: is this the only machine in the house?
[22:55] <sean_> Unguided1, he's gone
[22:56] <Unguided1> I missed that. Thanks
[22:57] <schultza> how do i get the mic working on a laptop for ubuntu?
[22:59] <sean_> schultza, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting#Line_Input.2BAC8-Microphone_Troubleshooting
[23:00] <ox1de> what do i do from grub?
[23:00] <fishcooker> my cam lamp is on
[23:01] <sean_> ox1de, i missed your problem, what are you trying to fix?
[23:01] <fishcooker> how to switch off?
[23:01] <ox1de> well on boot i get this message: No init found. try passing init= bootarg.
[23:01] <ox1de> busybox v1.13.3 (ubuntu 1:1.13.3-ubuntu11) built in shell (ash)
[23:01] <ox1de> enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[23:01] <ox1de> (initramfs) [  3.060259 ieee1394: host added: id:bus[0-00:1023] GUID[000ae4aaaa27c398]
[23:01] <avinashhm> Hi friends , i am running alsamixer ..  Iam getting strange wired characters like - http://paste.ubuntu.com/934710/ .. could some one help by giving any pointers ..
[23:01] <FloodBot1> ox1de: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:02] <zykotick9> avinashhm: gnome-terminal?
[23:03] <sean_> ox1de, hmm, google errs towards corrupted filesystem - https://www.google.co.uk/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=No+init+found.+try+passing+init%3D+bootarg that's not good news
[23:03] <ox1de> pici said go into grub
[23:03] <ox1de> so what do i do from grub?
[23:03] <avinashhm> zykotick9, pardon me .. it is not a gnome-terminal .. i am not sure which type of terminal it is .. is there any way to find ..
[23:03] <zykotick9> avinashhm: how are you starting your terminal?
[23:04] <avinashhm> booting in command line mode ..
[23:04] <zykotick9> avinashhm: ahhh, sorry i can't help.  good luck.
[23:04] <sean_> ox1de, what options do you have in grub?
[23:05] <sean_> ox1de, mine will be different
[23:05] <ox1de> ubuntu, with linux 2.6.32-38-generic
[23:05] <zykotick9> avinashhm: BTW, "echo $TERM" but i think from command line login, it just says Linux or something.
[23:05] <ox1de> ubuntu, with linux 2.6.32-38-generic (recovery mode)
[23:05] <avinashhm> zykotick9, np .. thanks for pitching in .. any idea which package are responsible for color in the terminall .. i think these are missing ..
[23:05] <sean_> avinashhm, I think I would look at bash settings
[23:05] <ox1de> so i pressed e and went into edit the commands
[23:05] <ox1de> and i need to know what to do in the edit command window
[23:06] <avinashhm> zykotick9, yeh .. it just says linux ..
[23:06] <wylde> avinashhm: looks like you may be missing some ncurses libs.
[23:06] <sean_> have you tried recovery mode?
[23:06] <avinashhm> on echo "TERM"
[23:06] <ox1de> yes that didnt work
[23:06] <zykotick9> avinashhm: i had lots of rendering issues with alsamixer and gnome-terminal, in my case switching to rxvt-unicode solved all my issues (doesn't apply to you)
[23:06] <sean_> same boot message?
[23:06] <ox1de> yes
[23:06] <wylde> !find ncurses
[23:06] <sean_> hmm
[23:06] <ox1de> pici said to press e which takes me into the edit command window
[23:06] <sean_> can you boot the machine from alive cd?
[23:07] <fl1bbl3> ox1de: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/laptop-stops-at-busybox-command-line-with-no-init-found-error-897722/
[23:07] <avinashhm> wylde, i will check ncurses library and install ...
[23:07] <fl1bbl3> you tried stuff in that thread?
[23:07] <avinashhm> zykotick9, how did u switch to rxvt-unicode .. ?
[23:07] <zykotick9> avinashhm: that's a Xorg terminal, not VT terminal
[23:08] <wylde> avinashhm: it looks to me like standard characters are working fine. The characters used to represent the "UI" are the ones that make me suspect and ncurses issue.
[23:08] <avinashhm> wylde, yeah .. it is something outside of ASCII ..
[23:08] <sean_> goodnight all, that was fun!
[23:09] <avinashhm> specially i feel colors are tried as usually in alsamixer .. but it is missing the color capability
[23:09] <archboxman> ox1de: I still dont get what the problems is?
[23:09] <avinashhm> i am checking on ncurses ..
[23:09] <ox1de> archboxman: what do u need to know?
[23:10] <archboxman> ox1de: did the drive crash! are u installing ubuntu what?
[23:10] <ox1de> ubuntu was installed and worked well for 6 months.. now when i boot i get this message: No init found. try passing init= bootarg.
[23:10] <ox1de> busybox v1.13.3 (ubuntu 1:1.13.3-ubuntu11) built in shell (ash)
[23:10] <ox1de> enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[23:10] <ox1de> (initramfs) [  3.060259 ieee1394: host added: id:bus[0-00:1023] GUID[000ae4aaaa27c398]
[23:10] <FloodBot1> ox1de: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:10] <ox1de> anyway i'm in grub
[23:10] <ox1de> i just need to know what to do from there
[23:10] <wylde> !pastebin | ox1
[23:11] <wylde> !pastebin | ox1de
[23:11] <Fyodorovna> !bootinfo | ox1de
[23:11] <notlistening> Hi guys i am getting this error on ubuntu server when mount cifs vfs any ideas? CIFS VFS: could not allocate crypto hmacmd5
[23:11] <archboxman> ox1de: did u backup ur data?
[23:11] <ox1de> no
[23:12] <archboxman> ox1de: is this dual boot with windows?
[23:12] <ox1de> no just ubuntu
[23:12] <ox1de> no windows
[23:12] <avinashhm> wylde, checked .. almost all ncurses libs are present - http://paste.ubuntu.com/934726/ . .:-(
[23:13] <wylde> avinashhm: hmm ...
[23:13] <archboxman> ox1de: external drive or extra usb stick?
[23:13] <avinashhm> wylde, let me install xterm and try launching ..
[23:13] <ox1de> i dont have an external
[23:14] <ox1de> i have a usb stick that won
[23:14] <ox1de> t seem to load
[23:14] <wylde> avinashhm: was about to suggest running in xterm or gnome-terminal to see what happens.
[23:14] <zykotick9> ox1de: personally, i'd boot from a livecd and follow the !grub2 link's directions for reinstalling grub myself.  ymmv
[23:14] <avinashhm> wylde, could i install only gnome-terminal and not whole of gnome ? i will give a shot if i can install only gnome-terminal independently
[23:15] <ox1de> what should i do to teh gnu grub command edit menu?
[23:15] <ox1de> or window
[23:15] <archboxman> ox1de: do u have a last image before this one if so choose that one it should boot
[23:15] <zykotick9> avinashhm: if you have Xorg installed, just test in xterm
[23:15] <wylde> avinashhm: I honestly don't know, I imagine it will probably want to install a fair number of additional packages if you don't have gnome installed.
[23:16] <avinashhm> zykotick9, sure .. i will try with xterm first ..
[23:17] <avinashhm> wylde, np .. i will try xterm . (looks easy) and then with gnome ..
[23:18] <wylde> avinashhm: if it works or not in xterm should suffice I think. I don't think there's enough difference from xterm to gnome-terminal to make a difference.
[23:18] <ox1de> the grub menu says: recordfail
[23:18] <ox1de> insmod ext2
[23:18] <ox1de> setroot='(hd0,1)'
[23:18] <ox1de> serach --nofloppy --fsuuid --set 9886f36e-97a2-42d4-94bd-20f860c93\a41
[23:18] <ox1de> linux /boot/vmlinux-2.6.32-38-generic root=uuid=9886f36e-97a2-42d4-9\4bd-20f860c93a41 ro quiet splash
[23:18] <FloodBot1> ox1de: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:18] <ox1de> initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-28-generic
[23:18] <wylde> !pastebin | ox1de
[23:18] <avinashhm> wylde, oh is it .. ok .. then i will check on xterm itself ..
[23:18] <wylde> ox1de: seriously, use pastebin.
[23:19] <krnl`> is there any file transfer method (like ftp or sshfs) that stores the files encrypted on the server?
[23:20] <zykotick9> krnl`: transfer and storage are not the same thing...
[23:20] <avinashhm> wylde, zykotick9 .. guys thanks very much for pitching in .. :-) .. ty
[23:20] <wylde> krnl`: I believe if the filesystem the file is tranferred to is encrypted then any files moved there will be.
[23:21] <krnl`> zykotick9: i want the file encrypted on the server, so other users that has permission to the whole system cant read the files without the proper key.
[23:21] <zykotick9> krnl`: so, either encrypt the files, or use an encrypted filesystem then
[23:21] <wylde> !info cryptkeeper
[23:22] <krnl`> zykotick9: no, i need differnet keys for different "ftp" users. and i dont want to pollute the system with meny sysusers.
[23:22] <ox1de> ????????????????????????????/
[23:22] <zykotick9> krnl`: well, good luck
[23:23] <pangolin> ox1de, are you trying to get yourself banned?
[23:23] <ox1de> no.
[23:23] <ox1de> i just need help
[23:23] <Daekdroom> !nepomuk
[23:23] <wylde> krnl`: used encrypted home directories on the server, and use their home dirs as their ftp directories.
[23:23] <wylde> ox1de: I've told you 3 times I believe to use pastebin.
[23:23] <ox1de> how does it work?
[23:24] <wylde> !pastebin | ox1de
[23:24] <celthunder> wylde: whats up
[23:24] <archboxman> ox1de: paste text in window submit and copy link above and paste here!
[23:24] <wylde> celthunder: not much, killing time tryiong to be helpful :)
[23:25] <celthunder> wylde: about to do the same seem to end up online at the same time as you often enough thought I would say hello :)
[23:25] <archboxman> celthunder: thanks for showing me Xmonad.. was a blast in arch linux these days
[23:25] <archboxman> celthunder: :)
[23:25] <wylde> celthunder: well hello to you too! :)
[23:25] <celthunder> archboxman: :) I sometimes know a thing or two
[23:26] <notlistening> anyone on this: CIFS VFS: could not allocate crypto hmacmd?
[23:27] <archboxman> celthunder: Trying to load Xmonad in arch linux a pain in the but..It was much easier to load in linux mint 12 with cinnamon..
[23:27] <celthunder> archboxman: lol if you say so ... im using arch and xmonad setup time was about 2 minutes.
[23:28] <celthunder> notlistening: uh where / when did you get that
[23:28] <celthunder> krnl`: truecrypt and scp.
[23:28] <ox1de> what should i do from grub?
[23:29] <archboxman> celthunder: I had trouble to to many options of the arch page think I many have used like three options and hosed the install
[23:29] <celthunder> ox1de: boot?
[23:29] <Vergudo> This venom - the mere smell of which kills a man!
[23:29] <Vergudo> From Against Latomus, pg. 140 of Luther's Works, Vol. 32
[23:29] <krnl`> celthunder: ill try thnx
[23:29] <celthunder> Vergudo: the hell?
[23:29] <Vergudo> Just as in a picture or dream you might see the king of the flies with his lances of straw and shields of hay arrayed against a real and regular army of seasoned human troops, that is how you go to war.
[23:29] <Vergudo> From The Bondage of the Will, pg. 144 of Luther's Works, Vol. 33
[23:29] <celthunder> archboxman: that is called learning
[23:29] <celthunder> Vergudo: shut up
[23:30] <Vergudo> We leave you to your own devices, for nothing properly suits you except hypocrisy, flattery, and lies.
[23:30] <Vergudo> From Against Latomus, pg. 143 of Luther's Works, Vol. 32
[23:30] <wylde> !ot | Vergudo
[23:30] <Vergudo> You are like swine who indiscriminately devour everything.
[23:30] <Vergudo> From The Keys, pg. 363 of Luther's Works, Vol. 40
[23:30] <wylde> meh probably a bot, an op care to remove it?
[23:31] <Vergudo> All Christians should be on guard against your antichristian poison.
[23:31] <Vergudo> From Defense and Explanation of All the Articles, pg. 52 of Luther's Works, Vol. 32
[23:31] <archboxman> celthunder: That is called just trying to be a show off... I got openbox installed..
[23:31] <celthunder> true enough now let me devour your worthless brain?
[23:31] <archboxman> Vergudo: no offense ,vut we are not here for book quotes..
[23:31] <wylde> pangolin: thanks!
[23:31] <D-Chymera> hi guys, any ideas how I can edit the nautilus "computer" section bookmarks in gnome 3.4?
[23:31] <celthunder> archboxman: theres a preset up arch i think its chakra or archbang if you are lazy and want openbox
[23:31] <pvssanjeev> hello
[23:32] <pvssanjeev> I have an issue with getting the HDMI OUT display on my HD TV
[23:32] <celthunder> D-Chymera: to add one? i think you need to add it to fstab or mtab...it reads one of those i think could be wrong
[23:32] <notlistening> celthunder, on boot
[23:32] <ox1de> d(>_<)b
[23:32] <celthunder> pvssanjeev: video card and does it output at all?
[23:33] <archboxman> celthunder: found a cool link gave me all the commands to setup Openbox it is running great wish I could get dmenu to run in Openbox..
[23:33] <notlistening> celthunder, when the system is running mount
[23:33] <celthunder> archboxman: dmenu should work fine in openbox
[23:33] <pvssanjeev> (celthinder)i only see UBUTU on the TC
[23:33] <pvssanjeev> TV*
[23:33] <D-Chymera> celthunder: the computer section by default has the standard freedesktop user folders
[23:33] <D-Chymera> nothing with fstab there
[23:33] <gustavo_cm> Hi there. GParted shrunk my /home ext4 partition bud didn't update the superblock. How can I solve it?
[23:34] <celthunder> D-Chymera: hmm clearly i dont use nautilus then
[23:34] <pvssanjeev> I am dell XPS L501X
[23:34] <celthunder> pvssanjeev: ? so can you drag windows to it or ?
[23:34] <pvssanjeev> no
[23:34] <Infest> hey ya'll
[23:34] <Infest> newbie
[23:34] <celthunder> pvssanjeev: is it active?
[23:34] <pvssanjeev> It has only the pink screen with UBUNTU on that
[23:34] <celthunder> Infest: as are we all
[23:34] <Dayofswords> hey, is there anyway to find out how big parts of the ubuntu repo are? like en-US 10.04 section only?
[23:35] <notlistening> Infest is the best ... or something like that :D
[23:35] <pvssanjeev> I have tried Fn+F8.. no luck there
[23:35] <gustavo_cm> Hi there. GParted shrunk my /home ext4 partition bud didn't update the superblock. How can I solve it? I tried fsck, but nothing.
[23:35] <celthunder> Dayofswords: ftp to a mirror and check the size of the folder...why would you WANT unless you are trying to be a full mirror
[23:35] <notlistening> celthunder, any idea on where to look on the CIFS issue?
[23:35] <pvssanjeev> In Windows this works seamlessly
[23:36] <archboxman> pvssanjeev: reslution problem?
[23:36] <celthunder> notlistening: no idea sorry
[23:36] <notlistening> :/
[23:36] <notlistening> Nothing on the web either :(
[23:36] <pvssanjeev> I have edited the XORG as indicated on one of teh forums
[23:36] <celthunder> pvssanjeev: check xrandr
[23:37] <celthunder> notlistening: what was the error again sorry
[23:37] <SirTurtle> hey check it it i'm not SirTutle :P
[23:37] <SirTurtle> now*
[23:37] <pvssanjeev> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1366 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192
[23:37] <pvssanjeev> LVDS1 connected 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 344mm x 194mm
[23:37] <pvssanjeev>    1366x768       59.6*+
[23:37] <pvssanjeev>    1360x768       59.8     60.0
[23:37] <pvssanjeev>    1024x768       60.0
[23:37] <FloodBot1> pvssanjeev: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:37] <pvssanjeev>    800x600        60.3     56.2
[23:37] <pvssanjeev>    640x480        59.9
[23:37] <wylde> !pastebin | pvssanjeev
[23:37] <archboxman> celthunder: well having to play with arch linux been 4 yrs since the last time I used it.. Had problems with key ring for min... waiting till pacman 4 becomes compelete went in switch file to trustall to install packages for keyring..
[23:37] <SirTurtle> floodbot?
[23:37] <celthunder> pastebin exists there are hundreds of them most free...use them
[23:37] <SirTurtle> intresting
[23:38] <celthunder> archboxman: pacman 4 is out arleady
[23:38] <archboxman> pvssanjeev: dual screen setup  xrandr in pastebin pls..
[23:38] <andrewpys> exit
[23:38] <celthunder> archboxman: pvssanjeev least we had the same idea
[23:38] <celthunder> SirTurtle: ?
[23:38] <pvssanjeev> on paste.ubuntu.com
[23:38] <archboxman> celthunder: seen that just the trust issue gives errors.. when install package says cant find key!
[23:38] <pvssanjeev> http://paste.ubuntu.com/934752/
[23:39] <pvssanjeev> Paste from pvssanjeev at Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:38:07 +0200
[23:39] <wylde> !find crypto hmac
[23:39] <celthunder> archboxman: set it to ignore it or add the dev keys it takes 2 seconds
[23:39] <wylde> whoops
[23:39] <SolarisBoy> lol
[23:40] <archboxman> celthunder: I have to add the dev keys. Read we only needed to set master keys..
[23:40] <wylde> notlistening: I think you might be missing a crypto lib or two.
[23:40] <celthunder> pvssanjeev: it says your hdmi isnt even plugged in..nvidia card?
[23:40] <pvssanjeev> NVIDIA
[23:40] <archboxman> celthunder: k, thanks..
[23:40] <andrewpsy> query khuang
[23:41] <celthunder> pvssanjeev: then give us the info from the nvidia tools
[23:41] <gustavo_cm> Hi there. GParted shrunk my /home ext4 partition bud didn't update the superblock. How can I solve it? I tried fsck, but nothing.
[23:41] <wylde> !info python3-crypto
[23:41] <wylde> !info python-crypto
[23:41] <SirTurtle> wtf is goin on lol
[23:41] <pvssanjeev> any specific command that would display the NVIDIA specs on this comp
[23:41] <celthunder> SirTurtle: ?
[23:42] <archboxman> celthunder: pvssanjeev did they run a lsmod see if the module is loaded?
[23:42] <celthunder> archboxman: theyre is x already so i would assume so
[23:42] <pvssanjeev> no i have not run any lsmod
[23:43] <wylde> !ot | SirTurtle
[23:43] <archboxman> celthunder: agree just these new ubuntu flavors install nouveau drivers instead of nvidia driver which causes problems...
[23:44] <celthunder> archboxman: get the proprietary driver...i am all for open source but...proprietary nvidia is the way to go
[23:44] <celthunder> archboxman: and if hes using nouveau then that would also explain why hdmi doesnt work
[23:44] <pvssanjeev> ok where do i get that "propietory" drivers?
[23:45] <celthunder> pvssanjeev: either nvidias site or probably the repos like everything else
[23:45] <pvssanjeev> Thank you celthunder
[23:45] <pvssanjeev> lemme search the repos
[23:45] <wylde> !nvidia
[23:45] <archboxman> celthunder: not me pvssanjeev ... my display is a 32 inch led tv
[23:45] <archboxman> pvssanjeev: lsmod which drive does it list...
[23:45] <funnyhaha> i am having trouble with iwconfig txpower i get this error Error for wireless request "Set Tx Power" (8B26) :
[23:45] <funnyhaha>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not permitted.
[23:46] <wylde> !info jockey-gtk
[23:46] <archboxman> pvssanjeev: module = driver in linux..
[23:46] <celthunder> archboxman: lol im using a 42" tv and a 32" as a secondary.
[23:46] <celthunder> funnyhaha: run it as root
[23:46] <wylde> !sudo | funnyhaha
[23:47] <archboxman> celthunder: but, how do u zoom in on apps that dont have a zoom feature built in?
[23:47] <funnyhaha> same error
[23:47] <celthunder> archboxman: i set my text size bigger :)
[23:47] <pvssanjeev> http://paste.ubuntu.com/934761/ - output for lspci | grep VGA
[23:47] <archboxman> celthunder: good idea! :)
[23:47] <celthunder> funnyhaha: then does your card support that option
[23:48] <funnyhaha> celthunder, i dont know
[23:48] <celthunder> funnyhaha: what are you trying to do anyway
[23:48] <celthunder> like...end goal
[23:48] <andrewpsy> help
[23:49] <celthunder> andrewpsy: no
[23:49] <funnyhaha> change he power of my wireless card
[23:49] <wylde> !help | andrewpsy
[23:49] <ProfessorBacon> that sounds dangerous
[23:49] <celthunder> funnyhaha: because?
[23:49] <funnyhaha> i want more power
[23:49] <andrewpsy> >celthunder: sorry, trying to see help page for irssi
[23:49] <ProfessorBacon> don't cook your machine, funnyhaha
[23:49] <funnyhaha> no no that wont happen
[23:49] <ProfessorBacon> just move closer to the AP :)
[23:49] <celthunder> ProfessorBacon: funnyhaha then get a real wireless card and a real antenna...problem solved
[23:50] <archboxman> funnyhaha: larger attenea is what u want
[23:50] <andrewpsy> !help
[23:50] <celthunder> andrewpsy: lol ok
[23:50] <wylde> celthunder: my home made cantenna beats out a store bought antenna by at least 4dbm. :)
[23:50] <archboxman> funnyhaha: It extends the range of wifi
[23:50] <n-iCe> I did ifconfig eth0 up, and is listed in ifconfig, but I connect the ethernet try a ping google.com and does not work, how can I know when I am connected to internet and if my ehternet drivers is loaded and working
[23:51] <ProfessorBacon> MORE POWER
[23:51] <andrewpsy> >celthunder: I should read the manpage of irssi before joining the channel :(
[23:51] <celthunder> wylde: all you need is wire...hell at one point i used a spool of speaker wire and some aluminum foil
[23:51] <ProfessorBacon> n-iCe: you can ping an IP on the internet
[23:51] <ratcheer> 21 jigawatts!
[23:51] <celthunder> andrewpsy: try weechat its irssi with updates and a dev that works on it
[23:51] <wylde> celthunder: yep, you don't need fancy materials at all.
[23:51] <archboxman> funnyhaha: try newegg.com and Rosewill product cost 15 bucks and works out the box sees drivers..
[23:51] <arizona_bay> if anyone wants to stop smoking, please drop by at #stopsmoking :D
[23:51] <n-iCe> ProfessorBacon: read the question :p I already ping google.com and does not work
[23:51] <arizona_bay> archbox :o
[23:51] <archboxman> funnyhaha: I will get u the lik
[23:51] <celthunder> arizona_bay: we like dying
[23:51] <funnyhaha> yeah i know i just want to be able to change to power like when i need more battery life and when i dont
[23:51] <wylde> !ot | arizona_bay
[23:52] <archboxman> funnyhaha: I will get u the link
[23:52] <andrewpsy> celthunder: thanks, will try weechat
[23:52] <andrewpsy> exit
[23:52] <arizona_bay> I got wipped :x im sowy
[23:52] <celthunder> funnyhaha: then get a battery with more cells and take out the cd drive dim the display and ssd (i hate ssd but better on power)....
[23:53] <celthunder> funnyhaha: those will do 100x more than not using wireless unless its a phone
[23:54] <celthunder> in which case all radios off dim display probably the best power saving.
[23:54] <pvssanjeev> I will edit the /etc/X11/XORG file and restart now and join back
[23:54] <archboxman> celthunder: they dont understand radio communications here so wifi is a problem
[23:55] <ceti331> has anyone used an amd 3-monitor out graphics card with ubuntu
[23:55] <ceti331> i have heard that nvidia cards are  better supported generally under linux
[23:56] <invisiblek> why does networkmanager + iwl3945 suck so much? its kind of a pain to have to install wicd on this...
[23:56] <celthunder> ceti331: that is true amd /ati pretty much refuse to make usable modules
[23:56] <ceti331> hah da,m
[23:56] <celthunder> invisiblek: wicd is good...network manager has always and always will suck
[23:56] <celthunder> ceti331: but yes depending on the card you can use it with 3 monitors
[23:56] <ceti331> those "usb monitors" dont work with linux do they ?
[23:56] <n-iCe> I did ifconfig eth0 up, and is listed in ifconfig, but I connect the ethernet try a ping google.com and does not work, how can I know when I am connected to internet and if my ehternet drivers is loaded and working
[23:56] <celthunder> no idea never tried one
[23:57] <invisiblek> i've never liked network manager, id rather configure it via command line
[23:57] <ceti331> before I purchase a card ideally I would like to have it verified that it will work
[23:57] <celthunder> n-iCe: do you have a dns server in /etc/resolv.conf
[23:57] <ceti331> instead of buying it to test it :)
[23:57] <celthunder> n-iCe: also dhcpcd eth0 or use ifconfig to give it an ip
[23:57] <violinappren> n-iCe: first of all, is your cable connected and working fine? check with: sudo mii-tool
[23:58] <zykotick9> celthunder: the debian project seems to consider wicd deprecated, and it may disappear from debian... just sayin'
[23:58] <celthunder> ceti331: theres plenty of hcls
[23:58] <n-iCe> ok, brb, let me try
[23:58] <ceti331> hcls=?
[23:58] <celthunder> ceti331: hardware compatiability lists
[23:58] <zykotick9> n-iCe: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[23:59] <celthunder> zykotick9: why? because its python2?
[23:59] <alteregoa> meowsolv.conf in /cat/sys/ipv4dhcmeow/
[23:59] <celthunder> zykotick9: netcfg does fine if wicd goes bye
[23:59] <zykotick9> celthunder: no, i don't think it's that (might be? i'm not sure on the details) [personally i use wicd on my netbook, so i don't have to install a DM]