[09:10] <Reilithion> My friend has a network interface that is working under slackware but not under Ubuntu.  Can someone help us discover the correct settings to use under Ubuntu?
[09:10] <javaJake> Come on guys, it's a simple favor.... :P
[09:10] <Reilithion> She is running Kubuntu from the Live CD
[09:10] <Arwen> KNY, oh wait... last thing, should I use fat16 or fat32 for a 1 Gig?
[09:10] <nido> Hello
[09:10] <dabju> My Wacom drawing tablet is working, but the gimp don't find it as an extended device. What should I do?
[09:10] <javaJake> No one here knows how to run cat or grep? :D
[09:10] <lemonsCC> javaJake: i dont have wireless so i cant help
[09:10] <neobyte420> javaJake, how did u fix that nat error?
[09:10] <KNY> Arwen, fat32
[09:11] <Arwen> JavaDeveloper, I do, but what are you trying to do?
[09:11] <blue-frog> Arwen: do you want to boot from usb flash?
[09:11] <javaJake> lemonsCC, ok
[09:11] <neobyte420> i think i need to enable port forwarding
[09:11] <Arwen> blue-frog, no
[09:11] <blue-frog> Arwen: then 32 is fine
[09:11] <Arwen> blue-frog, well actually, yes
[09:11] <javaJake> neobyte420, it's going to be your router, probably.
[09:11] <javaJake> I had that too
[09:11] <javaJake> And it was
[09:11] <neobyte420> im getting alitlle download rate of 1 to 2 KB/s
[09:11] <ghoul83> lol i can send me a PM :)
[09:11] <Nido_Media> javaJake: cat and grep are terminal programs; you most likely use them in a piped construction. IE: iwconfig | grep ath0
[09:11] <Arwen> blue-frog, does the type matter when booting?
[09:11] <lemonsCC> javaJake: figured i would tell so you wouldn't get too angry =)
[09:11] <javaJake> Nido_Media, yep.
[09:11] <blue-frog> Arwen: according to howto i followed yes
[09:11] <neobyte420> javaJake, im connected to the modenm
[09:12] <Nido_Media> I'm from gentoo
[09:12] <javaJake> lemonsCC, lol... just can't imagine no one here wouldn't have ndiswrapper.  I could see other uses for it, like the common downloading of stuff of guestionable copyright. But as far as I know, it does not work well, not designed for Torrenting.
[09:15] <LjL> like these ones
[09:15] <Erudition> hi
[09:15] <lemonsCC> lol
[09:15] <Arwen> Lynoure, it's a DOS attack on the tor network
[09:16] <lemonsCC> there should be invisible ops
[09:16] <Erudition> Is there a way i can disable ipv6 globally
[09:16] <Cpudan80> Hello
[09:16] <Cpudan80> Anyone know where I can find a 6.10 DVD?
[09:16] <Lynoure> Arwen: Maybe as the result, but probably not by intent.
[09:16] <ghoul83> Erudition why?
[09:16] <Lynoure> Arwen: and no scripts involved.
[09:16] <LjL> Lynoure, the tor network has limited bandwidth resources, and people using it for p2p are the main reason why it's so slow
[09:17] <neobyte420> javaJake, i have turned off my firestarter firewall
[09:17] <Arwen> Lynoure, the torrent app would be the script
[09:17] <Arwen> LjL, and the latency
[09:17] <Erudition> ghoul83 my router doesn't support it and I can't query the dns with v6
[09:17] <javaJake> neobyte420, ah, that was probably doing it.
[09:17] <NaDy> Could anyone tell me how do I install an DHCP network on Ubuntu?
[09:17] <neobyte420> nothing that i am aware of should be causing this NAT error
[09:17] <Lynoure> Arwen: Like I said, probably not by intent.
[09:17] <LjL> Lynoure: well, i think the tor FAQ or something make it clear that it should not be used for p2p
[09:18] <Erudition> NaDy: ubuntu sets devices up as dhcp detect automatically
[09:18] <neobyte420> maybe if i turn on the firewall...and enable it to forward the TCP & UDP packects it will work
[09:18] <javaJake> neobyte420, um, wait, turning off Firestarter doesn't turn off the firewall. Firestarter itself isn't the firewall - it merely lets you control the firewall built into Linux.
[09:18] <Lynoure> Arwen: but sorry, this is getting off-topic, we can continue on #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:18] <Arwen> I've got a weird issue, whenever I plug in a flash drive, a link appears on my desktop to /media/cdrom - what's with that?
[09:18] <Cpudan80> Anyone...?
[09:18] <Cpudan80> Ubuntu DVD on a mirror?
[09:18] <Cpudan80> No torrent - too slow
[09:18] <recu> NaDy:easy: the network preferences
[09:18] <graham_100> *can somebody tell me if i can get macromedia flash plyer on my firefox2*
[09:18] <javaJake> neobyte420, you need to run Firestarter, and click the "Stop" button
[09:18] <ghoul83> Erudition but ipv6 isn't the only ip you got normaly you should have ipv4 and ipv6 at the same time so you router can use the ip4v stuff
[09:18] <Lynoure> LjL: Not the first person here not to read FAQs before asking :)
[09:18] <Arwen> Cpudan80, pssh, I could dcc it to you over dialup, that'd be slow
[09:18] <LjL> Cpudan80: only torrent i'm afraid
[09:18] <neobyte420> javaJake, how do i turn off the linux firewall then
[09:18] <hexdream> My evolution is throwing an error trying to connect to seahorse (gpg). is anybody able to assist?
[09:19] <neobyte420> ok
[09:19] <NaDy> but still not works, I only have IPv6 but I need IPv4
[09:19] <graham_100> *can somebody tell me if i can get macromedia flash plyer on my firefox2*
[09:19] <javaJake> neobyte420, you need to run Firestarter, and click the "Stop" button
[09:19] <graham_100> *can somebody tell me if i can get macromedia flash plyer on my firefox2*
[09:19] <LjL> !repeat | graham_100
[09:19] <Cpudan80> LjL: Well - you know of a high-speed torrent?
[09:19] <ubotu> graham_100: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:19] <Arwen> I've got a weird issue, whenever I plug in a flash drive, a link appears on my desktop to /media/cdrom - what's with that?
[09:19] <lemonsCC> graham stop spamming
[09:19] <neobyte420> ok i did that
[09:19] <neobyte420> now what
[09:19] <Arwen> graham_100, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:19] <neobyte420> restart azureus
[09:19] <Nido_Media> !patience
[09:19] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:19] <javaJake> graham_100, if you want version 9, let me know.
[09:19] <LjL> Cpudan80: the only torrent i know of is the official one. those are usually very fast here, but i've only ever tried the CDs
[09:20] <neobyte420> never mind
[09:20] <hexdream> graham_100: firefox should support flash. have you tried enabling the extra repositories?
[09:20] <neobyte420> there it goes
[09:20] <neobyte420> :)
[09:20] <neobyte420> ty javaJake
[09:20] <javaJake> Nido_Media, we should change that to "your attidude and how difficult your question is will determine..."
[09:20] <javaJake> :)
[09:20] <graham_100> javajake i don't know which i want
[09:20] <neobyte420> i have a green :-)
[09:20] <neobyte420> ty so very much
[09:20] <javaJake> graham_100, 9 is latest, works with all sites, but can crash. (Hasn't for me yet.)
[09:20] <neobyte420> i have learned something
[09:20] <graham_100> hexdream i dont know how to get into the repositaries for firefox
[09:20] <javaJake> graham_100, 9 also requires a manual installation
[09:20] <nokrev> Hey all. I've been working on getting WPA-PSK working with a WUSB54Gv4 (Linksys, Wireless USB network adapter), and a Netgear router. I've been trying to use ndiswrapper, and I've come really close, but I can't seem to make the connection.
[09:20] <graham_100> javajake i guess that would be the one i would want then
[09:21] <Reilithion> Do the Live CD's come with the tulip kernel module?
[09:21] <Arwen> !repositories | graham_100
[09:21] <ubotu> graham_100: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:21] <NaDy> I get pingreply from my network server but can't do anything else, help?
[09:21] <graham_100> javajake i would rather not manual install though so the older would be a better option for me
[09:21] <Arwen> graham_100, follow the instructions to add the multiverse and universe repositories
[09:21] <ghoul83> is it possible to connect to this irc server with SSL on?
[09:21] <redduck676> any tips on how to get a tap to behave like a click on G4?
[09:21] <lemonsCC> anyone know about nmap?
[09:21] <Arwen> then install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:21] <nokrev> Has anybody here gotten a WUSB54Gv4 to work with WPA?
[09:21] <Arwen> manual install is actually easier though
[09:21] <hexdream> graham_100: The repositories are for Ubuntu, not firefox. Try googling "easy ubuntu". It's a script that installs all the extras like codecs and useful restricted packages.
[09:21] <KNY> lemonsCC, Google does
[09:21] <Erudition> grr wrong button
[09:22] <graham_100> hexdream kkk
[09:22] <lemonsCC> kny google doesn't give good help, i tried
[09:22] <javaJake> graham_100, manual is easy to install.
[09:22] <recu> NaDy: the ifconfig tells you have an ip?
[09:22] <LjL> !flash9 | graham_100, javaJake
[09:22] <ubotu> graham_100, javaJake: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[09:22] <bigbro> lemonsCC: Indeed - if you had some questions regarding nmap and asked them, perhaps those of us who do know about it could answer them :)
[09:22] <Nido_Media> Okay; I've got two sound cards in my computer; the standard motherboard card; ICH5; and a Creative Sound Blaster Live. Right now, ubuntu wants to play back audio with the ICH5 soundcard; but I want it to use the Sound Blaster instead.
[09:22] <Erudition> anyway can anyone tell me if I can disable ipv6 for a certaindevice or even globally?
[09:22] <Cpudan80> Is Feisty stable?
[09:22] <javaJake> LjL, thanks!!
[09:22] <LjL> Cpudan80: no
[09:22] <lemonsCC> KNY:  the howto's are more confusing than nmap is
[09:22] <Cpudan80> LjL: So I guess I'll go with Dapper then...
[09:22] <javaJake> graham_100, ok, so you CAN install v9 quickly!
[09:22] <Music_Shuffle2> Nido_Media, System -> Preferences -> Sound
[09:22] <LjL> Cpudan80: err, there's Edgy as well
[09:22] <javaJake> !backports | graham_100
[09:22] <ubotu> graham_100: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[09:22] <Cpudan80> err sorry Edgy
[09:22] <hexdream> graham_100: If you are using a low bandwidth connection you may need to find somebody who can give you the extras on a disk.
[09:23] <bigbro> Erudition: Yes - you can do either. WHich would you prefer to do and why?
[09:23] <Music_Shuffle2> Cpudan80, Edgy yes.
[09:23] <Nido_Media> Music_Shuffle2: Thanks.
[09:23] <jherm> Anyone know how to install Ubuntu to a 4 TB disk?
[09:23] <graham_100> hexdream my isp is rubbish i struggle to get 256kbps on broadband
[09:23] <LjL> Cpudan80: the timeline is Breezy -> Dapper -> Edgy -> Feisty.  Feisty is not yet released, and there's no reason why you should use Breezy; on the other hand, there may be valid reasons to use Dapper over Edgy
[09:23] <lemonsCC> bigbro: i am trying to use nmap to find the ip's of all the computers on my network.  I put in "nmap -sP <IP_ADDRESS>/24" but i seems to miss my powerbook everytime
[09:23] <Music_Shuffle2> Best f luck.
[09:23] <graham_100> i am changing that too hope that causes no problems there
[09:23] <Nido_Media> This is how I want to use ubuntu. To get out of the terminal. Great!
[09:23] <Music_Shuffle2> jherm, the same way you install it to any other disk?
[09:24] <jherm> Music_Shuffle2, no BIOS cannot address greater than 2 TB
[09:24] <Arwen> graham_100, I'm on dialup - I just use patience
[09:24] <nn> From another machine on the network (dsl not ubuntu) how do i connect to the X login on my ubuntu box (which does allow remote logins by my configuration)
[09:24] <ghoul83> jherm, a 4 TB disk? nice hardware
[09:24] <jherm> Music_Shuffle2, something about GPT needed
[09:24] <Music_Shuffle2> jherm, install it to just one of the disks and then mount, couldn't you? >.>
[09:24] <Erudition> bigbro: my router acts as a dns server which forwards requests through to the ones set by my ISP, and these change quite often. But it can't handle ipva6 dns queries so I can't connect to MSN through GAIM, for example. in Firefox I'v manually disabled ipv6
[09:24] <hexdream> graham_100: :-) im using GPRS charged at extortion prices per MB. Essentially dial-up speed.  Our local telekoms monopoly is evil.
[09:24] <Arwen> nn, you need a client to login over network.... if its not built in, you'll have to find one and compile it
[09:24] <jherm> Music_Shuffle2, no GRUB will not install
[09:25] <redduck676> nn: fix the DISPLAY? use vnc?
[09:25] <ghoul83> nn, through ssh you have to set the pass X too option
[09:25] <redduck676> ssh X forwarding?
[09:25] <jherm> Music_Shuffle2, and grub will not boot
[09:25] <Music_Shuffle2> =[
[09:25] <Music_Shuffle2> There go MY plans for a 4 TB setup later. Heheheh.
[09:25] <graham_100> hexdream i am paying 26.99 per month for supposadly 8mb i get nowhere near that is why i am changing!
[09:25] <Arwen> any beryl users here?
[09:25] <jherm> Music_Shuffle2, i tried finding docs on GPT and Ubuntu, but it is allfor MacBooks
[09:25] <nn> Arwen: hmm, what kind of "client"?
[09:25] <bigbro> lemonsCC: Does your macbook respond to ICMP traffic?
[09:25] <Arwen> nn, a login client....
[09:25] <nn> Arwen: yea, but such as? :)
[09:26] <nn> redduck676: i'd really rather not use VNC for this, since it's two *nix boxen
[09:26] <bigbro> Erudition: Get an IPv6 tunnel from sixxs.net - job done?
[09:26] <Arwen> nn, no idea - both gnome and kde have one built-in, but....
[09:26] <leny> jherm: have you tried installing it within 2TB then growing the partition with parted. You may need a pc98 disk label... guessing
[09:26] <ghoul83> what driver do i need to read an ext3 disk from windows?
[09:26] <Erudition> hmm, I'l look into that
[09:26] <LjL> Ubotu, tell ghoul83 about ext3 | ghoul83, see the private message from Ubotu
[09:26] <nn> ghoul83: there's a few ext2 drivers but they are scary
[09:26] <redduck676> any tips on how to get a tap to behave like a click on G4?
[09:26] <hexdream> graham_100: shopping around is usually a good idea. I have a feeling that ISP's are having trouble with supplying enough broadband. I think its because ppl are abusing P2P.
[09:27] <Arwen> nn, not very scary
[09:27] <Arwen> ghoul83, try e2ifs... or whatever it was called
[09:27] <Arwen> ghoul83, just google ext3 windows
[09:27] <Garito> hi all
[09:27] <Reilithion> tulip driver.  Is it on the Live CD?
[09:27] <ghoul83> LjL, your my man :)
[09:27] <nn> Arwen: ext2ntfs 0.5 is a great driver, if you can get it setup
[09:27] <graham_100> hexdream i have decided to switch to toucan they offer me a better deal and being a low downloader i go on the priority stream during peak times :)
[09:28] <jherm> leny, thats a good idea
[09:28] <Arwen> nn, does it support ext3 journals?
[09:28] <Lattyware> help
[09:28] <LjL> ghoul83: note that as arwen pointed out, though, there are other solutions, including a stand-alone file browser that doesn't need you to install an IFS driver. google "ext2 windows" as well - for *reading* (not writing) ext3 is effectively the same as ext2
[09:28] <Garito> someone how knows how to activate 3d acceleration for a intel 82855?
[09:28] <nn> Arwen: No, it just ignores the journal
[09:28] <Arwen> nn, and I'm still trying to find a proper xfs driver
[09:28] <nn> Arwen: which is harmless, really
[09:28] <Arwen> nn, if it writes and ignores the journal?
[09:29] <leny> jherm: try ext2 first thenconvert after resizing last Ilooked parted doesn't resize ext3
[09:29] <graham_100> hexdream i went through the auto install of flash player and it said:   automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes  : is this to do with my internet connection??
[09:29] <alex_> hi I have LEXAR flash 2Gig media, I got it mounted well into /media/LEXAR, I have a tutorial which I am trying to use to install a debiann system on it, the tutorial start with shred /dev/sdd, but my Lexar is mounted in /media ? any idea ?
[09:29] <Arwen> graham_100, you're using an old install script
[09:29] <hexdream> graham_100: what application gave you that error?
[09:29] <Arwen> graham_100, make sure the version number says 9.x.x.x.x
[09:29] <Garito> someone how wants to help me ?
[09:29] <nn> Arwen: harmless, the journal is only for fs ops that arent fully completed
[09:29] <lemonsCC> bigbro: how would i know?
[09:29] <jherm> leny, problem is that this is RAID5
[09:29] <LjL> alex_: ... shred? that's stupid, it'll ruing your card, what kind of tutorial is that?
[09:29] <jherm> leny, cant redothe array
[09:29] <Lynoure> LjL, Arwen: BTW, http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorFAQ says very little on bittorrent, the guy might have been genuenely ignorant of the effect even after reading the faq.
[09:29] <Arwen> nn, so if you crash while writing?
[09:29] <Garito> joder
[09:30] <Arwen> Lynoure, it says somewhere on there that P2P = BAN
[09:30] <nn> Arwen: then you're gonna have to fsck, same as before the journal came around
[09:30] <Arwen> last time I checked
[09:30] <nn> Arwen: it works exactly how ext2 worked
[09:30] <Arwen> nn, but will it be marked as dirty?
[09:30] <alex_> LjL,www.debian-administration.org/articles/179
[09:30] <graham_100> hexdream that was the mac flash player
[09:30] <Erudition> bigbro: I'd rather just disable ipv6, it doesn't really make much difference to me whether I have it or not
[09:30] <lemonsCC> bigbro: how would i know if my macbook supports icmp?  (sorry for the repeat)
[09:30] <LjL> Lynoure: maybe... still i can't care less, he's been abusive enough
[09:30] <nn> Arwen: that's debatable, personally any time i allowed a non kernel driver to write to my ext{2,3} fs, i'd force a fsck
[09:31] <nn> Arwen: the drivers simply arent very mature yet
[09:31] <Lynoure> LjL: I agree.
[09:31] <Arwen> nn, and the drivers for xfs and reiser are non-existant....
[09:31] <nn> Arwen: i gotta run, but i'll be back in a few hours if you care to continue this discussion
[09:31] <nn> Arwen: yeup
[09:31] <hexdream> graham_100: you running a MAC? not used one before so cant really give much help. Arwen did suggest that the scripts you have may be only. Have you done an update to your repositories?
[09:31] <alex_> LjL: shred is only to erase the content of the USB key, I don
[09:31] <graham_100> i tried a manual install beforee of mac 9 but it told me to delete a file *wich i did* and nothing seems to have taken effect!!
[09:31] <nn> Arwen: ext2/ext3's safest bet, but.. ymmv
[09:31] <bigbro> lemonsCC: DO you have it disabled at the firewall? Get it's IP address and try pinging it from another host?
[09:31] <leny> jherm: sorry don't know RAID thought it just looked like one disk although there were many.  Any milage in using LVM to add additional partitions?
[09:31] <alex_> LjL: t see why it could ruin my USB key
[09:31] <Arwen> graham_100, make sure you have backported updates enabled
[09:32] <Garito> hello
[09:32] <hexdream> graham_100: Sorry, finger slip. Meant to say your scripts may be outdated. ;-)
[09:32] <graham_100> hexdream i am not using a mac it's an AMD athlon XP 1600+ machine
[09:32] <jherm> leny, dunno
[09:32] <bigbro> lemonsCC: Some firewall configurations block ICMP traffic for no discernably good reason - under the misguided assumption that crackers are too stupid to find your computer using the myriad of other methods available to them.
[09:32] <alex_> LjL: ?
[09:32] <LjL> alex_: indeed, it probably won't, because there's the "-n 1" option set... see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory#Flash_file_systems and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear-levelling for the reason why writing to flash multiple times will ruin them (and shred normally *does* write quite a few times)
[09:32] <Erudition> bigbro: I'd rather just disable ipv6, it doesn't really make much difference to me whether I have it or not
[09:32] <graham_100> hmnm i haven't come across scripts yet so how do i update them??
[09:32] <lemonsCC> bigbro: you a genius disable the firewall and it showed up
[09:32] <bigbro> Erudition: rmmod ipv6 ?
[09:33] <LjL> alex_: i'd have used something like "dd" to achieve the same effect, but then as long as you take care to pass those option (especially -n 1), it should be good
[09:33] <Erudition> ok
[09:33] <_tcc> Why is vi retarded in Edgy?
[09:33] <bigbro> _tcc: Use vim.
[09:33] <_tcc> What the hell?
[09:33] <_tcc> It's not symlinked?
[09:33] <afief> What would be a good program to draw flow charts?
[09:33] <lemonsCC> bigbro: i assume this would fall under the "enable stealth mode" category?
[09:33] <nunod> afief, dia
[09:33] <bigbro> _tcc: Even if it is, it's often configured to react differently depending on how it's called.
[09:33] <hexdream> graham_100: oh, right. sorry. Try the repository update anyway. Click System / Administration / Synaptic package manager.
[09:34] <LjL> !dia | afief
[09:34] <bigbro> lemonsCC: Nope - that's something completely different.
[09:34] <ubotu> dia: Diagram editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95.0-4ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 179 kB, installed size 528 kB
[09:34] <LjL> !kivio | afief
[09:34] <ubotu> kivio: a flowcharting program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 525 kB, installed size 1744 kB
[09:34] <alex_> LjL: the problem is that is tells me that /media/LEXAR is a directory and even with -f it won't shred it, even with the second step of the tutorial with parted, it refuses to do it
[09:34] <francisco> Garito, my xorg.conf didnt help?
[09:34] <alex_> LjL: should I umount it before maybe ?
[09:34] <Garito> nope francisco
[09:35] <graham_100> hexdream do i just search for macromedia flash player in there?
[09:35] <Garito> i think i only need to install a 82855 correct driver
[09:35] <A-L-P-H-A> can someone tell me why when I do sudo apt-get remove totem-mozilla, apt-get wants to remove ubuntu-desktop??  All I want is VLC.
[09:35] <LjL> alex_: well, /media/LEXAR is where you *mounted* it, but the *device* will be some file in /dev, like (but not necessarily) the mentioned /dev/sdd
[09:35] <LjL> alex_: you certainly can't run shred over a directory, which is what /media/LEXAR is
[09:35] <graham_100> hexdream or would  it be adobe?
[09:35] <Arwen> A-L-P-H-A, ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package
[09:36] <Arwen> A-L-P-H-A, it depends on everything in ubuntu, but it doesn't do anything itself
[09:36] <Arwen> therefore, you can delete it if you want
[09:36] <alex_> LjL: yes that is what I thought but can I find the corresponding /dev file ?
[09:36] <stephan21_> can someone tell me if there is a way to upgrade from dapper to edgy while still kipping my settings
[09:36] <alex_> LjL: I have tried a ls -l /dev but no success
[09:36] <A-L-P-H-A> Arwen, thanks.  I wasn't sure why it was asking, but that explains it.
[09:36] <graham_100> stephan21_
[09:36] <LjL> alex_: type "mount" and, assuming the card is mounted correctly, you'll see what the device is.
[09:37] <stephan21_> ?
[09:37] <graham_100> stephan21_ i upgraded from dapper to edgy no problems
[09:37] <Arwen> heh, vista corporate's already been cracked
[09:37] <alex_> LjL: off course thanks
[09:37] <graham_100> i ran a backup disk of but i didn't need it
[09:37] <hexdream> graham_100: No. Click the reload package information first. Let the system update (may take a while). Once this is done, if you have the extra repositories installed you should be able to install the flashplayer either through the repository, or probably directly from firefox itself.
[09:37] <stephan21_> graham_100, how.... never did an upgrade in linux :/
[09:37] <Mwa> Hi
[09:37] <Arwen> graham_100, I upgraded and it killed my fstab, broke hibernate, and screwed my drivers...
[09:37] <LjL> however alex_, if you're not familiar with this kind of stuff, i think doing that soft of work with shred and the like runs you into a risk of destroying the wrong filesystem. be very careful. only work as root when you absolutely need to
[09:37] <Mwa> I'm having trouble installing ubuntu
[09:38] <graham_100> stephan21_  give me a moment i will see if i still have it ! i did it through the terminal took about 2 hours
[09:38] <LjL> alex_: by the way, see http://www.google.com/search?q=encrypted+site%3Ahelp.ubuntu.com&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 , we have a couple of howtos for encryption as well
[09:38] <stephan21_> ok
[09:38] <graham_100> arwen i guess it's luck of the draw really
[09:38] <Arwen> graham_100, I always recommend a fresh install
[09:39] <Arwen> :-\
[09:39] <alex_> LjL: yeah well its just USB key is not it ? and having a debian OS on it makes it interesting
[09:39] <graham_100> my mouse pointer just dissapearewd lol
[09:39] <leny> jher: Sorry to witter onbut you are using a 2.6 kerne are't you?
[09:39] <LjL> alex_: *that* is an usb key, but if you get the /dev/sdsomething (or whatever) wrong during a shred, dd, mkfs, etc command, you're likely to wipe or corrupt your hard drive, not the USB key
[09:39] <Mwa> Is there any way to disable the install of grub?
[09:39] <honix> hello! I don't see window's borders with Beryl, I thing is Emerlad but I don't know what to do.
[09:40] <alex_> LjL: ah yes sure
[09:40] <agent> why does pypanel in ubuntu require python2.5 when the real requirements are python2.2+?
[09:40] <graham_100> is there a ctrl + alt + del type command on edgy??
[09:40] <hexdream> I am getting an error connecting to seahorse (gpg)  when sending a mail (connection refused). Can anybody help?
[09:40] <leny> jherm: Oops - Sorry to witter on but you are using a 2.6 kernel aren't you?
[09:40] <jherm> yes
[09:40] <bigbro> graham_100: Yes - Ctrl+Alt+Del
[09:40] <jherm> leny, i have EFI flag on
[09:41] <Arwen> is there a specially designed filesystem for flash drives?
[09:41] <graham_100> bigbro doesn't do anything  lol is this normal?
[09:41] <jherm> Arwen, no
[09:41] <dothazard> #ubuntu-fr
[09:41] <Arwen> bigbro, that doesn't do anything... except in console mode
[09:41] <bigbro> graham_100: It's probably disabled. What are you actually trying to do?
[09:41] <stephan21_> can someone tell me if there is a way to upgrade from dapper to edgy while still kipping my settings
[09:41] <graham_100> stephan21_ i will be with you when i get my mouse back lol
[09:41] <bigbro> Arwen: That largely depends on how it's configured.
[09:41] <stephan21_> oh lol thanks
[09:41] <Arwen> bigbro, ctrl+alt+del in console forces a freboot, ctrl+alt+backspace on X causes X to restart
[09:42] <senjin> go in too www.rollforlife.se and vote in the poll pleas:D
[09:42] <agent> nm... silly xlib package dep is causing that...
[09:42] <francisco> garito, the one in edgy should give you glx
[09:42] <Arwen> I don't think there's a hotkey for the task list though
[09:42] <francisco> Garito, the driver in edgy I mean
[09:42] <Arwen> Garito, don't install breezy....
[09:42] <Garito> why?
[09:42] <bigbro> Arwen: No - really - it depends on how it's configured. I generally disable it, but it's often configured to call init 0 (reboot)
[09:42] <graham_100> i think my optical mouse is dead i put on a rollerball  one it's fine now
[09:42] <nolimitsoya> Garito, couse its old and riddled with problems
[09:42] <Arwen> bigbro, I know - talking defaults
[09:42] <Garito> the?
[09:42] <francisco> I also had glx in dapper, Garito
[09:42] <Garito> then?
[09:43] <Arwen> Garito, there's dapper and edgy now
[09:43] <hcjc92> 'win 3
[09:43] <hcjc92> my keyboard FAILS
[09:43] <Arwen> francisco, what's glx?
[09:43] <Garito> sure but don't want to upgrade
[09:43] <francisco> er dri in glx
[09:43] <leny> jherm: Have you tried ELILO? See http://sourceforge.net/projects/elilo
[09:43] <Garito> at least I want to activate 3d acceleration
[09:44] <francisco> what ubuntu are you using now, Garito
[09:44] <jherm> leny, grub2 works
[09:44] <Garito> garito@Portatil:~$ glxinfo | grep dir
[09:44] <Garito> direct rendering: No
[09:44] <Garito> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:44] <Jhuri> oi mates, ive got this problem when I install a 2.4 kernel the initrd in /boot is empty 0.o how do I fix that, how to create them manually?
[09:44] <Garito> dapper
[09:44] <einPaule> !su
[09:44] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root").  See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:44] <Arwen> Garito, graphics card?
[09:44] <einPaule> !ntfs
[09:44] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:44] <jherm> leny, thanks for trying!
[09:44] <Arwen> LjL, that doesn't help
[09:44] <Garito> intel 82855
[09:45] <_tcc> Where are the scripts that tell ubuntu to elicit a dhcp request?
[09:45] <_tcc> I want to turn that off....
[09:45] <Arwen> Garito, integrated... hrmm...
[09:45] <Arwen> Garito, why don't you buy a real grpahics card?
[09:45] <Garito> jajajajajaja
[09:45] <bigbro> _tcc: Configure your network interfaces to NOT use DHCP?
[09:45] <Garito> because then I buy a mac
[09:46] <_tcc> bigbro, uh yeah...?
[09:46] <einPaule> what was the page with all the !-commands like !su etc. with all the explanations
[09:46] <Garito> I have a travelmate 4002lmi
[09:46] <_tcc> bigbro, and the file is where?
[09:46] <noelferreira> lupine_85: are you there? Can you help me with rt61 and kernel 2.6.15-27-386 in dapper?
[09:46] <francisco> arwen dri works fine on 855, I can use beryl just as well
[09:46] <LjL> Ubotu, tell einPaule about bot | einPaule, see the private message from Ubotu
[09:46] <Arwen> francisco, that's not the issue...
[09:46] <graham_100> stephan21_ i think your best bet is to go to the ubuntu site and download the latest 6.10 version maybe put it on a cd and go that way i will try to remember how i did it you can try that method if you likeQ!
[09:46] <einPaule> thx LjL
[09:46] <bigbro> _tcc: Depends on the interface. There are graphical tools to do it. Is there a reason you want to modify the scripts directly?
[09:46] <_tcc> Because I am in a chrooted terminal?
[09:46] <Garito> then?
[09:46] <bigbro> _tcc: If so, check out /etc/network/
[09:46] <_tcc> I just need to disable that...
[09:47] <_tcc> I don't see anything there.
[09:47] <francisco> do tell us Arwen what the issue is
[09:47] <Arwen> francisco, he has an unsupported graphics card...
[09:47] <francisco> its not unsupported
[09:47] <Garito> the isue is beryl works but to sloooooow
[09:47] <bigbro> _tcc: Generally networking would be set up outside the chroot environment - I'm assuming you're on a Debian / Ubuntu system.
[09:47] <Garito> only because direct rendering is off
[09:47] <_tcc> bigbro, i am now
[09:47] <graham_100> hexdream i have found the flash player in synaptic i have gone for the flash player at the top
[09:47] <alex_> what is a USB thumbdrive as opposed to a USB flash media ? (a french asking)
[09:48] <francisco> beryl is slow for him becuause something is not configured correctly that is all
[09:48] <Garito> sure
[09:48] <_tcc> bigbro, i don't want it just randomly requesting addresses without the users constent
[09:48] <_tcc> that's stupid
[09:48] <Garito> but I don't what
[09:48] <Garito> thanks francisco
[09:48] <blue-frog> alex_: same thing
[09:48] <bigbro> _tcc: Networking would be a root level thing - users should not be involved. I don't see the issue.
[09:48] <Arwen> francisco, he said direct-rendering = 0
[09:48] <lostinc> Is there a way to permanently name USB devices like my external HD?
[09:48] <hexdream> graham_100: Thats great. That is the way I did it and I had no problems.
[09:48] <francisco> maybe you have the software rendering drivers installed...
[09:48] <alex_> blue-frog: thats what i THOUGHT
[09:48] <alex_> thanks
[09:48] <bigbro> _tcc: Either it has DHCP enabled interfaces - which must request an IP if one is required - or it does not.
[09:48] <Mwa> I'm having trouble installing ubuntu on a Macbook
[09:49] <Garito> how can I see this?
[09:49] <alex_> blue-frog: sorry I hit the caps key
[09:49] <francisco> arwen I have the same chipset and I get direct rendering
[09:49] <_tcc> bigbro, the issue is you are putting data onto the networking without them knowing
[09:49] <LjL> !username
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about username - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <_tcc> what if you don't want to interact with that dhcp server?
[09:49] <Mwa> Mainly with GRUB
[09:49] <graham_100> stephan21_   i think this is the command to upgrade from any version to 6.10  :>>>>    gksu "update-manager -c"
[09:49] <_tcc> So...
[09:49] <_tcc> I'm asking how you turn that off...
[09:49] <graham_100> correct me if i am wrong anybody
[09:49] <bigbro> _tcc: I'm really not sure what you want to achieve.
[09:49] <francisco> garito, open synaptic and search for glx
[09:49] <graham_100> :)
[09:49] <ghoul83> can a PCI Gigabit NIC be slower then a PCI-E equivalent?
[09:49] <Garito> ok
[09:49] <_tcc> bigbro, NOT REQUESTING AN ADDRESS
[09:49] <_tcc> On boot!
[09:49] <graulich> I want to run a perl script but a file it use()s isn't in @INC. what do I do?
[09:50] <LjL> !caps | _tcc
[09:50] <ubotu> _tcc: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:50] <_tcc> Ok.
[09:50] <bigbro> _tcc: Then don't configure your interfaces to request DHCP addresses. Job done.
[09:50] <francisco> Garito,  also can you paste your xorg.conf
[09:50] <Garito> sure
[09:50] <stephan21_> graham_100, i got it on cd...do i do that in the live cd /install?
[09:50] <Arwen> ghoul83, yes
[09:50] <Garito> where can i paste it?
[09:50] <LjL> !paste
[09:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:51] <francisco> Garito, use this site: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:51] <_tcc> You basically just told me what I said in the beginning of my question.
[09:51] <ghoul83> Arwen would the PCI-E get the 125MB/S?
[09:51] <Garito> yes
[09:51] <bigbro> _tcc: All the Debian / Ubuntu networking configuration is available under /etc/network/
[09:51] <_tcc> That doesn't tell me how it is done.
[09:51] <graham_100> stephan21_ i would imagine so, you see i used the terminal command but i think the cd will be the live cd version!! you can just give it a try and see what it does
[09:51] <Garito> thanks
[09:51] <Jhuri> help me out ppl, initrd-s for the 2.4 kernels how do i make em?
[09:51] <Arwen> ghoul83, only if your card supported it, which is probably a no
[09:51] <Garito> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36115/
[09:51] <graham_100> did you get the command i put there for you stephan21_
[09:51] <ghoul83> just help me out systemadministrator *sing*
[09:51] <p33k4y> can i use debian etch's mirrors as a apt-get repository in ubuntu?
[09:52] <stephan21_> graham_100, yea
[09:52] <graham_100> hexdream my flash player is still not working?!!?! don't know what to try next
[09:52] <stephan21_> graham_100, thanks alot
[09:52] <hexdream> graham_100: I'm off  to count sheep. Hope you come right :-)
[09:52] <sacater_> how do i get flash for mozzila
[09:52] <sacater_> firefox
[09:52] <ghoul83> Arwen if my card supported it? if the vendor said hey it's up to 125MB/s or what?
[09:52] <hexdream> graham_100: Oh, hmm, have you upgraded all your packages and rebooted?
[09:52] <graham_100> sacater_ i am having same problem! lol
[09:52] <Arwen> graham_100, manual install...............
[09:52] <jake> hello, is there anyway to make ubuntu tell you the bios version for your mobo?
[09:53] <Arwen> ghoul83, yea
[09:53] <Ashura> i need to put some commands like iwpriv before my ra0 interface goes up...what can i do? Where can i find the syntax for /etc/network/interfaces to execute a custom script before putting up ra0 ?
[09:53] <graham_100> arwen i can't seem to grasp the maual install
[09:53] <sacater_> how do i install flash player
[09:53] <El_Che> jake: what about booting and writing the number down?
[09:53] <alex_> sacater_: what is your machine
[09:53] <Arwen> graham_100, go to adobe.com, download the flashplayer, copy it to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[09:53] <Arwen> graham_100, done
[09:53] <sacater_> alex_: i built it myself, so it has no official name
[09:54] <graham_100> arwen i am going to the site now!
[09:54] <hexdream> graham_100: You can upgrade using the automatic update feature. I dont use it anymore but it's the ornage icon next to the clock/volume icons.
[09:54] <jake> could do that, I was hoping the os could do it
[09:54] <nemeza> hello everyone..
[09:54] <Arwen> graham_100, ah.... its at their beta download site... one sec
[09:54] <alex_> sacater_: as long as its not a ppc, try the synaptic app and search for flash you should be fine
[09:54] <stephan21_> graham_100, im going to try the image.....do i do gksu "update-manager -c image?
[09:54] <nemeza> may you help me in grub problem?
[09:54] <fab5freddy> i am curious how unbuntu works with the Athlon 64 X2
[09:54] <francisco> Garito, so after you search for glx in synaptic, is libgl1-mesa-dri installed?
[09:54] <leny> jhuri: I've always used make-kpkg from kernel-package in the repository
[09:54] <Arwen> graham_100, http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
[09:55] <Garito> I see
[09:55] <nemeza> Really simple, Grub not loading, now i use desktop cd..
[09:55] <graham_100> gksu update-manager -c
[09:55] <graham_100> that should do it without the disk
[09:55] <Garito> It seems to be installed
[09:55] <Jhuri> leny: im installing a repo kernel
[09:55] <Dayna1> ummm... I can't log into the forums
[09:56] <graham_100> arwen do i need the installer or the player??
[09:56] <Garito> I try to reinstall it?
[09:56] <fab5freddy> does anybody have an Athlon 64 X2 using ubuntu?
[09:56] <Arwen> graham_100, installer (the script isn't included yet, its just a file)
[09:56] <graham_100> ok
[09:56] <Dayna1> it says "thanks for logging in daynah" and then... I'm not logged in
[09:56] <whyameye> how do I get the Apple remote control which came with my MacBook to work?
[09:57] <francisco> Garito, no, well check something else
[09:57] <_tcc> What scripts do I modify so that I can turn off the DHCP request on boot?
[09:57] <_tcc> It's not a very intense question.
[09:57] <graham_100> arwen i have the installer on my desktop now!!
[09:57] <Arwen> graham_100, double check the version number
[09:57] <Garito> what?
[09:57] <youser> anyone know if theres a dcplusplus chat room on freenode?
[09:57] <hexdream> graham_100: I'm falling asleep here. Good luck with the flash :-)
[09:58] <graham_100> ty hexdream
[09:58] <Mwa> *wves
[09:58] <Mwa> Damnit, I can't spell. ):
[09:58] <francisco> Garito, can you uncomment Option "AIGLX" "true"  in server layout?
[09:58] <nemeza> i'm really sorry for can't start my ubuntu for a month now becouse of this..
[09:58] <graham_100> fp9_plugin_beta_112006.tar.gz   that right??
[09:58] <Garito> ok
[09:58] <Rasta> sup people
[09:58] <Garito> something else? (i need to relaunch gnome
[09:59] <Arwen> graham_100, yea
[09:59] <_tcc> What scripts do I modify so that I can turn off the DHCP request on boot?
[09:59] <nolimitsoya> graham_100, no!
[09:59] <Arwen> nolimitsoya, no?
[09:59] <Garito> I uncomment it on serverlayout
[09:59] <nolimitsoya> graham_100, dont _ever_ install from source if there are ubuntu debs
[09:59] <noelferreira> lupine_85: are you there? Can you help me with rt61 and kernel 2.6.15-27-386 in dapper?
[09:59] <graham_100> arwen what do i do with it now ?? lol
[09:59] <nolimitsoya> graham_100, and there are for flash9
[09:59] <Rasta> please correct me if im wrong cause im about to download ubuntu, 6.06 its Dapper and 6.10 its edgy?
[09:59] <Arwen> nolimitsoya, this is flash player.... its easier to manual install it
[09:59] <graham_100> *confused now*   :S
[09:59] <Arwen> graham_100, right-click > extract here
[09:59] <UbuntuCE> hi. how i can check if my torrent-downloaded ubuntu .iso is ok? (md5)
[09:59] <nolimitsoya> Arwen, no, it isnt. there are debs, and they should be used
[10:00] <stephan21_> Im trying to do an upgrade and i get this Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[10:00] <Arwen> nolimitsoya, and the debs are just scripts to download the tar.gz
[10:00] <nolimitsoya> graham_100, dont listen to Arwen. fins some debs
[10:00] <mxktmdude> hi everyone, i have ubuntu edgy installed here on my laptop. I have followed instructions on installing ndiswrapper 1.8 + common, modprobed all working, ndiswrapper showing driver installed, but my wifi light keeps flashing and doesnt actually allow me to use it... im lost
[10:00] <ghoul83> someone knows uplink the game?
[10:00] <Mwa> Also, is it possible to change the resolution that the live CD plays at?
[10:00] <nolimitsoya> Arwen, no, they are not :)
[10:00] <Arwen> nolimitsoya, and to be honest, its easier to download and copy the file
[10:00] <tjb891> is there a hamachi like funtunality in ubuntu?
[10:00] <Arwen> nolimitsoya, yes they are - check the file size
[10:00] <graham_100> lmao who do i listen too :)
[10:00] <nolimitsoya> Arwen, 9mb is a pretty large link ;)
[10:00] <nolimitsoya> graham_100, me, of course :)
[10:01] <graham_100> lol :)
[10:01] <Arwen> nolimitsoya, flashplugin-nonfree?
[10:01] <Arwen> graham_100, he's thinking of the wrong one
[10:01] <Garito> francisco can i make a private to you?
[10:01] <UbuntuCE> hi. how i can check if my torrent-downloaded ubuntu .iso is ok? (md5)
[10:01] <graham_100> arwen ok
[10:01] <nolimitsoya> Arwen, yes, and player. there are two
[10:01] <cartesian1984> nolimitsoya: he's right. They're just scripts to download the debs.
[10:01] <graham_100> my brain hurts!
[10:01] <nolimitsoya> graham_100, im no ;)
[10:01] <cartesian1984> Or.
[10:01] <cartesian1984> Not the debs.
[10:01] <nolimitsoya> *not
[10:01] <Arwen> nolimitsoya, flashplugin-nonfree - 12K
[10:01] <Arwen> graham_100, anyway, have you extracted it?
[10:01] <Rasta> 6.10 its edgy?
[10:01] <graham_100> arwen yes
[10:02] <Arwen> graham_100, copy the .so file to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[10:02] <graham_100> rasta yes
[10:02] <Arwen> you might need root privileges for that
[10:02] <nolimitsoya> Arwen, flashplayer-nonfree_<IP_ADDRESS>-3v1ubuntu0_i386.deb is 2.4mb.
[10:02] <Arwen> nolimitsoya, um, no it isn't
[10:02] <graham_100> hang fire i am ging to just have a smoke brb
[10:02] <nolimitsoya> Arwen, flashplugin-nonfree_<IP_ADDRESS>-3v1ubuntu0_i386 is 2.5mb
[10:02] <francisco> Garito, also can you paste your latest xorg.0.log from /var/log
[10:02] <Arwen> nolimitsoya, check in synaptic and without seveas' repos
[10:03] <sacater_> Arwen: i did that, what website should i use to test whether i have flash
[10:03] <alvarom> please help, i been installed the package of postgres-server.8,
[10:03] <Garito> ok
[10:03] <Arwen> sacater_, I forgot... its somewhere on adobe's page
[10:03] <francisco> I'm not registered on freenode, but you can try
[10:03] <Rasta> nice
[10:03] <Arwen> sacater_, you could also just go to youtube
[10:03] <Garito> ok
[10:03] <cartesian1984> nolimitsoya: Maybe on your system, but on mine it's 102k. It does not contain the plugin. Although, if you have alternate repos, that could be it.
[10:03] <nolimitsoya> Arwen, that might be, but i didnt get it from the repos. either way, why on earth would you tell him touse tgz when he can get it from the repos?
[10:03] <Arwen> nolimitsoya, its not working for him
[10:04] <Arwen> nolimitsoya, and also, download, untar, copy is easier
[10:04] <nolimitsoya> Arwen, then the right way isstill to get a working deb
[10:04] <Arwen> nolimitsoya, .....
[10:04] <Mwa> So
[10:04] <graham_100> arwen have we all decided what i am to do ?? lol
[10:04] <alvarom> i need some help with postgres instalation...
[10:04] <Mwa> Uhm.
[10:04] <bud_resin> anyone have a working labtec webcam pro?
[10:04] <nolimitsoya> graham_100, flip a cion
[10:04] <graham_100> oh and does 6.10 support raid?
[10:04] <Arwen> graham_100, yes, copy the .so file to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[10:04] <leny> Jhuri, I'm not sure what you mean by repo .  However you initrd.img-etc is in /boot and if you copy it and mount it thrugh a loop device you can then change it, put it back and reissue grub-install (devname)
[10:05] <nolimitsoya> graham_100, yes, both hw and lvm
[10:05] <graham_100> the .so file is in ???
[10:05] <Arwen> graham_100, if it supports raid depends on your raid card/software
[10:05] <Mwa> Is everyone buisy? ):
[10:05] <Arwen> graham_100, should be in the .tar.gz that you downloaded
[10:05] <graham_100> arwen i see it
[10:05] <francisco> this guy has the flash for ubuntu too: http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/blog/
[10:05] <Garito> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36120/
[10:05] <Otacon22> work compiz without xgl server, but with nvidiaglx server?
[10:06] <spx2> whatwhat ssh client should i use in ubuntu ?
[10:06] <Arwen> graham_100, good, you can't just copy and paste because of the whole root thingy, so open a terminal and type cp ~/Desktop/*.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[10:06] <mxktmdude> hi everyone, i have ubuntu edgy installed here on my laptop. I have followed instructions on installing ndiswrapper 1.8 + common, modprobed all working, ndiswrapper showing driver installed, but my wifi light keeps flashing and doesnt actually allow me to use it... im lost
[10:06] <Arwen> Otacon22, if you have nvidiaglx, just use AIGLX + nvidia beta drivers
[10:07] <graham_100> cp: cannot stat `/home/kelly/Desktop/*.so': No such file or directory
[10:07] <Arwen> graham_100, oops.... stick the name of the folder that "extract" created before the *.so part
[10:07] <Jhuri> leny: repo - repository (prepackaged kernel that is), right but i dont know what to put in initrd-2.4.27-k6, since its empty - I thought there was a script for that, u know which one?
[10:08] <graham_100> cp: cannot stat `/home/kelly/Desktop/*.so': No such file or directory?
[10:08] <graham_100> *oops
[10:08] <graham_100> the whole file directory right?
[10:08] <francisco> Garito, 2297. (II) I810(0): [DRI]  installation complete
[10:08] <francisco> 2298. (II) I810(0): direct rendering: Enab
[10:08] <Arwen> graham_100, um, just sudo nautilus and copy and paste if the terminal thingy is too confusing
[10:08] <leny> %C1  \Z880 .
[10:08] <francisco> hmm
[10:08] <Mwa> Does anyone know how to disable the installation of GRUB on the Ubuntu install? Because it's causing problems, and I have a boot loader allready
[10:08] <Flannel> Arwen, graham_100, gksudo, not sudo, for nautilus.  and be super careful.
[10:08] <francisco> can you run glxinfo and check if dri is enabled?
[10:08] <Arwen> Flannel, doesn't really matter, he has a terminal open
[10:09] <Flannel> Arwen: yes, it does really matter.
[10:09] <Arwen> Flannel, and... why?
[10:09] <Garito> like this:
[10:09] <Garito> garito@Portatil:/var/log$ glxinfo | grep dri
[10:09] <Garito> garito@Portatil:/var/log$
[10:09] <Garito> ?
[10:09] <francisco> sure
[10:09] <Garito> no response
[10:09] <Flannel> Arwen: the major difference between sudo and gksudo is *not* the way in which they ask for your password, it's in how they set up the environment for that program.
[10:09] <leny> Jhuri: Will be back after looking at the make-kpkg script
[10:10] <Arwen> Flannel, works either way
[10:10] <Jhuri> leny: k
[10:10] <francisco> you can just run glxfinfo
[10:10] <graham_100> arwen i am going to type this.....kelly@kelly-desktop:~$ cp ~/Desktop/flash-player-plugin-<IP_ADDRESS>*.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins.....is this right??
[10:10] <Flannel> Arwen: which is why you use gksudo for graphical programs, not because you want a nice textbox, but because the program itself is graphical.
[10:10] <Garito> ok
[10:10] <Arwen> graham_100, no.... add a "/" before the *.so
[10:10] <Flannel> Arwen: No.  It can screw up some permissions some places.  Please don't break other peoples machines.
[10:10] <graham_100> kelly@kelly-desktop:~$ cp ~/Desktop/flash-player-plugin-<IP_ADDRESS>/*.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins???
[10:10] <Arwen> Flannel, ............
[10:10] <Garito> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36122/
[10:10] <Cpudan80> Is Ubuntu's package manager good?
[10:10] <Arwen> graham_100, yes
[10:10] <zylche> aww
[10:11] <Cpudan80> Better than Suse anyway
[10:11] <graham_100> okiesx
[10:11] <graham_100> cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so': Permission denied
[10:11] <Arwen> graham_100, ah yea.... tack a "sudo" before the command
[10:11] <Arwen> heh, sorry for the inconvenience
[10:11] <nolimitsoya> *cough*
[10:11] <nolimitsoya> ;)
[10:11] <kash> do i need /etc/inittab
[10:11] <kash> i'm in edgy
[10:11] <tjb891> if i download the package vncserver will it start vnc as a service or will it have to be enable?
[10:12] <addicted> Does ubuntu support Finger Print Sensors?
[10:12] <ProN00b> tjb891, check System - Preferences - Remote Desktop
[10:13] <tjb891> ok
[10:13] <graham_100> arwen did that just skiped back to my usual blank line is that right?? i.e apeared to do nothing!
[10:13] <drakken> test
[10:13] <Arwen> graham_100, yep, unix philosophy there
[10:13] <graham_100> arwen ok now what do i do??? lol
[10:13] <Arwen> start firefox and go to "about:plugins" - if flash is listed there, all worked well
[10:14] <noelferreira> lupine_85: are you there? Can you help me with rt61 and kernel 2.6.15-27-386 in dapper?
[10:14] <Emo_Samurai> I'm chatting from Windows right now, and my Ubuntu won't acknowledge that it's got an ethernet cable plugged into it.
[10:14] <graham_100> i started firefox i see no "about:plugins"
[10:14] <Arwen> graham_100, that's the name of a page
[10:14] <Flannel> graham_100: you type it into the address box
[10:14] <Arwen> put it in the address box
[10:15] <Emo_Samurai> can somebody help me?
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> addicted: Sometimes.
[10:15] <Emo_Samurai> I can't network.
[10:15] <graham_100> oh lol i see now
[10:15] <Emo_Samurai> And it won't let me install my driver, even though it's supposed to be supported.
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> addicted: Best bet is to check the Ubuntu (and other) wikis.  Aslo, if it's a ThinkPad, there's the ThinkWiki.
[10:15] <Emo_Samurai> It says there's no auto-install application for it.
[10:15] <Emo_Samurai> Can somebody help?
[10:15] <Emo_Samurai> !install
[10:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:15] <graham_100> application/x-shockwave-flash 	Shockwave Flash 	swf 	Yes
[10:15] <graham_100> application/futuresplash 	FutureSplash Player 	spl 	Yes
[10:15] <graham_100> that is under flash
[10:16] <francisco> Garito, this is odd: 12. client glx vendor string: ATI
[10:16] <graham_100> well shockwave flash
[10:16] <alex_> once you have parted a /dev, how do you get to view the result ?
[10:16] <Arwen> graham_100, congrats... double check for extra files in that flashplayer folder on your desktop and then go to youtube
[10:16] <Emo_Samurai> tonyyarusso: Can you help me install my wireless card? I'm loggin on from Windows right now.
[10:16] <Arwen> Garito, you have an ATi driver loaded? weird..
[10:16] <Garito> then perhaps i have an ati?
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: I doubt I'll be much help since I don't have experience with that, but what card?
[10:16] <Emo_Samurai> tonyyarusso: D-Link.
[10:16] <alex_> what comd should I use to see how a /dev/ is partitionned ?
[10:17] <ProN00b> Emo_Samurai, what chipset ?
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: You've checked the wiki pages for it?
[10:17] <Garito> how can i unload it?
[10:17] <thomas> hey all!
[10:17] <youser> is there a way i can make my chan list sort by # of users?
[10:17] <francisco> garito try: lspci
[10:17] <Emo_Samurai> tonyyarusso: Where're the wiki pages?
[10:17] <Garito> ok
[10:17] <Arwen> Garito, you can unload it with modprobe... but make sure before you try that
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:18] <francisco> aye also lsmod to check what modules are loaded
[10:18] <Garito> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36125/
[10:18] <graham_100> arwen i still cant play games that require flash plugin is there anything else needed to be done??
[10:18] <Rprp> What is better -19 or 19? (renice) ? :p
[10:18] <gateway_> hi all, anyone here with a motherboard with the nvidia 590 chipset on it using ubuntu?
[10:18] <Arwen> graham_100, are they shockwave games? what happens?
[10:18] <gateway_> i have problems to get networking up
[10:18] <francisco> yep certainly intel 855 ;-)
[10:19] <Garito> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36127/
[10:19] <Garito> then i can considere as true that i have a 855?
[10:19] <Mwa> So, does anyone know how to stop grub installing?
[10:19] <graham_100> they are games on miniclip and shockwave but it comes up with a grey screen and says plugin needed and a green jigsaw peice but i only have the option to manual install
[10:20] <Arwen> graham_100, double check the reqs, does it require shockwave player?
[10:20] <Arwen> flash != shockwave
[10:20] <francisco> Garito, noting unusual there in lsmod either...
[10:20] <spx2> whatwhat ssh client should i use in ubuntu ?
[10:20] <Garito> mmm
[10:20] <Garito> then?
[10:20] <LjL> spx2: what's wrong with ssh?
[10:20] <Arwen> Garito, there's no shockwave for linux, unfortunately
[10:21] <Garito> sure
[10:21] <francisco> try changing also in xorg.conf    DefaultDepth	16         in section "screen"
[10:21] <noelferreira> lupine_85: are you there? Can you help me with rt61 and kernel 2.6.15-27-386 in dapper?
[10:21] <Arwen> Garito, oops... wrong person, lol
[10:21] <Garito> jejeje
[10:21] <Garito> no problem
[10:21] <graham_100> arwen it just says requires missing plugin
[10:21] <spx2> LjL: it doenst work
[10:21] <Arwen> graham_100, err.... what page?
[10:22] <Garito> changed
[10:22] <graham_100> miniclip.com
[10:22] <francisco> sometimes glx only work in 16bit mode, mine woks in 24 or 16 but is kinda slow in 24
[10:22] <Garito> any change more?
[10:22] <LjL> spx2: like what?
[10:22] <LjL> spx2: it certainly does work over here
[10:22] <Arwen> graham_100, which specific game?
[10:22] <graham_100> http://www.miniclip.com
[10:22] <Ashura> noelferreira, if you want, i just setup my ralink on dapper :D
[10:22] <graham_100> any of them
[10:22] <Arwen> graham_100, does playing flash video work?
[10:22] <LjL> spx2: what's the error?
[10:22] <francisco> Garito, try rebooting (sometimes restarting x is not enough)
[10:22] <noelferreira> of course Ashura
[10:22] <Garito> ok
[10:22] <graham_100> yes
[10:22] <noelferreira> thanks
[10:22] <Garito> thanks francisco
[10:23] <jherm> im so bored i might give out my phone number and let someone pay me for Ubuntu support
[10:23] <francisco> good luck
[10:23] <Ashura> noelferreira, query me your problems
[10:23] <mseney> This drives me nuts..Can't see the image at this like cuz there is no Flash 8 for Linux  http://www.popmatters.com/pm/film/reviews/8681/apocalypto-2006/
[10:23] <Garito> I'll be back if I have more problems
[10:23] <Garito> thank you so much!!!
[10:23] <mseney> * link * not like
[10:23] <noelferreira> Ashura: wich kernel you have?
[10:23] <francisco> dont thank me yet ;-)
[10:23] <francisco> :o
[10:23] <graham_100> listen i have to go to the shop i will be back in about an hour you still be here??
[10:23] <Flannel> mseney: you could get the beta of flash 9
[10:23] <mseney> Flannel, where at
[10:23] <noelferreira> my system crashes with kernel 2.6.15-27-386 Ashura
[10:23] <jherm> Flannel, isnt final flash 9 out?
[10:24] <Ashura> noelferreira, 2.6.15-27
[10:24] <graham_100> arwen listen i have to go to the shop i will be back in about an hour you still be here??
[10:24] <noelferreira> ok
[10:24] <Darst> arwen thanks for the help the other day, have got the media files playing... by any chance, do you know anything about setting up a .aoundrc file ? (having challenges getting digital audio working now)
[10:24] <Flannel> jherm: er, I don't believe so.  Could very well be.  I have no GUI, don't follow flash too closely ;)
[10:24] <escargot> Hello! I'm trying to install ubuntu, but it looks like the installer isn't doing anything when setting up the partition. Anyone know why this is happening?
[10:24] <LjL> !flash9 | Flannel, mseney, jherm
[10:24] <ubotu> Flannel, mseney, jherm: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[10:24] <Flannel> mseney: it's in backports.
[10:24] <Arwen> graham_100, only maybe :-\
[10:24] <noelferreira> what howto did you followed Ashura?
[10:24] <Arwen> DarkD_at_work, don't know about that....
[10:24] <Ashura> noelferreira, none, i just emerged rt2005
[10:24] <wyld> !backports
[10:24] <Darst> arwen .asoundrc *
[10:24] <mseney> LjL, k thanks
[10:24] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[10:24] <graham_100> arwen ok np if you are here i will see you then!
[10:24] <mseney> Flannel, k thanks
[10:24] <graham_100> :)
[10:25] <Arwen> Darst, don't know about that, sorry
[10:25] <ivx> hey i am trying to install ubuntu and i am getting the following error: MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to I0-APIC
[10:25] <Arwen> DarkD_at_work, sorry about the misname
[10:25] <ivx> anyone know how to fix this
[10:25] <Darst> arwen no probs - thanks anyway
[10:25] <leny> ! paste
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[10:25] <noelferreira> but i use rt61 Ashura what you mean?
[10:25] <stapel> Why is update-manager saying my system is up-to-date, but then there are 4 updates under distribution-upgrade greyed out?
[10:25] <Arwen> stapel, dependency hell
[10:25] <jherm> LjL, dont use backports --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-c268ba69c6b38af1dc31ea09701c7d296cf971c3
[10:26] <stapel> looks like it...
[10:26] <Arwen> stapel, run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and see what that says
[10:26] <stapel> ok
[10:26] <BadMike> Could anyone help me I'm not able to install something
[10:26] <Darst> general question then to the channel - have got sound working thru normal output (ie 2 ch headphones), got a TOSLink out to the amp, but not getting sound thru that - where to start looking at setting up digital out ?
[10:26] <lostinc> Is there a good set of instructions to set up a printer via the network without the use of a LPT port??
[10:26] <Ashura> noelferreira, you mean how do i managed to understand the commands on iwpriv?
[10:26] <LjL> jherm: why's backports bad?
[10:26] <eimajenthat> hey, how do I make a password protected zip file in Ubuntu?
[10:27] <jherm> LjL, unsupported
[10:27] <Flannel> jherm: no.  Use backports.  package management good.
[10:27] <stapel> The following packages have been kept back:
[10:27] <stapel>   libggi2 mplayer podbrowser tomboy
[10:27] <LjL> jherm: erm, and a third-party package (or .bin, or whatever) would be supported? =)
[10:27] <jherm> Flannel, but dont add the entire backports
[10:27] <noelferreira> Ashura: can you help me? my system freezes with that kernel
[10:27] <jherm> Flannel, just grab what you need
[10:28] <Ashura> noelferreira, try to boot it with the resue kernel and look for any crash dump on the messages
[10:28] <Flannel> jherm: are you in the habit of installing all the packages from every repository you have? ;)
[10:28] <Arwen> stapel, go to synaptic, mark them for upgrade individually and see what it says
[10:28] <LjL> Flannel: well, he has a point, -backports might update *other* packages that you have installed and that you don't want updated
[10:28] <jherm> Flannel, no just dont do dist-upgrade with backports installed
[10:28] <LjL> Flannel, jherm: but it's easy enough to add it, install whatever you need, and remove it
[10:29] <noelferreira> something related to old drivers Ashura.
[10:29] <jherm> LjL, you dont even need to do that
[10:29] <Ashura> noelferreira, boot with rescue and manually delete them from /lib/modules/kernel_ver/
[10:29] <jherm> LjL, from the command line you can say "grab flash from backports" without even touvhing your apt sources.list
[10:30] <LjL> jherm: how?
[10:30] <xst> After an upgrade, the fonts en emacs became very ugly and non-antialiased. How can I fix that?
[10:30] <Ashura> noelferreira, then reboot and see if it was the real problem
[10:30] <jherm> LjL, :-)
[10:30] <LjL> jherm: i wouldn't recommend wget+dpkg, if that's what you mean
[10:30] <jherm> LjL, no
[10:30] <leny> Jhuri: The list of whats in my initrd is on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36128/ .  The initrd is a gzipped cpio archive of those files. Rgds
[10:31] <noelferreira> and then Ashura?
[10:31] <Ashura> noelferreira, then reinstall the correct drivers (i use the one from multiverse)
[10:31] <Ashura> noelferreira, i have a D-Link DWL-G510
[10:32] <Jhuri> leny: gee thanks, is it a 2.4-k6 suitable one?
[10:32] <noelferreira> ok i'll trie Ashura
[10:32] <noelferreira> thanks
[10:32] <Ashura> you are wellcom
[10:32] <Ashura> i'll be here
[10:32] <william> someone know how to completely reinstall X11?
[10:33] <Spaghetti_Knife> How do I get my computer to recognize that it has a frakking ethernet cable plugged into it?
[10:33] <Spaghetti_Knife> Please don't point me to a site; they never have all the information I need.
[10:34] <wyld> how do i close one channel with / quit, and not my entire session?
[10:34] <wyld> in xchat
[10:34] <Ashura> use /part
[10:34] <Spaghetti_Knife> Can somebody help me?
[10:34] <leny> Jhuri: Its a 2.6 but all but the module names for the drivers should be v close.  You can look at your original one by installing one of the linux-2.4.x kernel packages?
[10:34] <Spaghetti_Knife> Help?
[10:34] <Arwen> william, so apt-get remove --purge xorg?
[10:34] <Arwen> william, you might as well reinstall
[10:34] <noelferreira> Ashura: i dind't find rt61 in /lib/modules/my kernel
[10:35] <Ashura> it's deep inside
[10:35] <noelferreira> where ?
[10:35] <noelferreira> aliases?
[10:35] <Ashura> wait a sec
[10:35] <wyld> ashura: thanks
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: Maybe a little.  Does it recognize your ethernet card at all?
[10:35] <william> how do i go about that while keeping my /home as it is and apps installed though? thats really what i'd be happy to do
[10:35] <noelferreira> ok
[10:35] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso: How do I get it to do that?
[10:35] <william> basically the mouse has locked up (ps/2) and completly reinstalling X may fix it
[10:36] <Ashura> noelferreira, kernel/driver/net/wireless/   dlete all rt2xxx
[10:36] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso: Tony?
[10:36] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:Tony!!!
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: Check 'lspci' to see if it's listed.
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> !patience | Spaghetti_Knife
[10:37] <ubotu> Spaghetti_Knife: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:37] <Jhuri> leny: the 2.4 kernels install from the repositories without a initrd
[10:37] <william> is there a way to force apt to reinstall files that it already thinks are uptodate?
[10:37] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso: lspci?
[10:37] <Jhuri> leny: u think a 2.6 initrd will work for a 2.4 kernel?
[10:38] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:How do I make it recognize it if it doesn't?
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: It's a command that lists a lot of hardware info.  Run it, and post the output to the !pastebin
[10:38] <alex_> if I use debootstrap, it will use my apt source list  right ?
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: That's the sticky part.  Drivers.  I'm hoping this ends up being a simple fix, b/c if not I doubt I'll be able to help, and it will be a wiki-reading situation.
[10:38] <leny> Jhuri: As I understand it the method is the same for all 2.x kernels. See 'man initrd'
[10:38] <noelferreira> and now Ashura?
[10:39] <stapel> arwen: thanks...it worked
[10:39] <alex_> so if from a ubuntu machine I do a debootstrap sid, it won't find it
[10:39] <M3L7down> hey guys I got a question
[10:39] <leny> Jhuri: Your binaries should be your own though
[10:39] <Ashura> now boot and see if the kernel itself (without ralink drivers loaded) load correctly
[10:39] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:It recognizes the ethernet controller.
[10:39] <wyld> how do i change desktops in 3ddesktop?
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: Okay, that's good
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: Now try 'ifconfig -a'
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> See if it's listed there.
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[10:42] <lemonsCC> thank you
[10:42] <Arwen> irc.sekcov.com?
[10:42] <klm-> is there a way to reset all my videocodecs? somethings starts bugging when I run a certain videofile
[10:42] <borg> thank you LjL that thing he was doing was causing my client to annoy me with sounds
[10:42] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:okay, did that. Lots of drek I don't understand.
[10:42] <Arwen> klm-, remove all your gstreamer-plugin-* packages
[10:42] <LjL> actually it wasn't me who banned him borg
[10:42] <Arwen> klm-, then reinstall
[10:42] <Mwa> Uhm, can I have some help now? <_<;
[10:42] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: Just put it on the pastebin and I'll try to decipher for you.
[10:42] <borg> LjL: oh, i didnt see it then
[10:42] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:pastebin?
[10:42] <finalbeta> !paste
[10:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:43] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:I'm logging on from my other windows computer.
[10:43] <borg> thank you gnomefreak
[10:43] <klm-> Arwen, ok, will that be a permanent or temporary solution?
[10:43] <Crescendo> What tool can be used to edit files on an FTP server, and automatically upload them to the server when saved?
[10:43] <Darst> will put the question out there... i have got sound working in 2ch headphones out of the std audio out... if i plug in the digital cable (into the TOSLink out) and connect to the amp, nothing - no sound at all... question is should i be looking at my .asoundrc file or is there a better place to start looking (4 day linux newbie)... pity me... please
[10:43] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: See the link from ubotu
[10:43] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:The whole problem is that my Ubuntu boot won't recognize that I have a frakking ethernet cable plugged into it.
[10:43] <Arwen> klm-, permanent... assuming you don't break it again somehow
[10:43] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: Oh, nvm
[10:43] <klm-> Arwen, ok thanks then
[10:43] <finalbeta> Crescendo, You can try using nautilus to connect to the FTP.
[10:43] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:Okay...
[10:43] <Mwa> See, I don't have a working computer until I get this fixed. ):
[10:43] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: Okay, just tell me the far left column, eth-whatevers and such
[10:43] <graham_100> hello
[10:44] <M3L7down> for some reason, I can't force Ubuntu to read xorg.conf. Which basically means I can't get my resolution any higher than 1024x768. Can you guys tell me another way to do this?
[10:44] <whyameye_> is there a bash irc room? I'm wondering how to print out the ascii value of a string in bash.
[10:44] <Arwen> whyameye_, #bash or ##linux
[10:44] <jrib> Crescendo: vim
[10:44] <Crescendo> finalbeta, it seems opening a file from an FTP connection on nautilus doesn't go very well, using Gedit.  Empty document.
[10:44] <M3L7down> I have changed the subsections to add another value like so:
[10:44] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:Okay, it says, in descending order, ath0, eth0, lo, sit0, wifi0.
[10:44] <M3L7down> 	SubSection "Display"
[10:44] <M3L7down> 		Depth		24
[10:44] <M3L7down> 		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[10:44] <M3L7down> but for....
[10:44] <M3L7down> wait a second
[10:44] <finalbeta> Crescendo, sry, didn't know that.
[10:45] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: eth0 is most likely what you want
[10:45] <stapel> is it possible to upgrade to feisty yet?
[10:45] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:Okay, I have no idea what to do with that.
[10:45] <nalioth> stapel: join #ubuntu+1
[10:45] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: See if you can bring it up, with 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up'
[10:45] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:But thanks a lot for your help so far.
[10:45] <stapel> nalioth: thanks
[10:46] <Spaghetti_Knife> I can't.
[10:46] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: How so?
[10:46] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:I typed it in, nothing happened.
[10:46] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:It moved onto the next line without anything being printed.
[10:47] <Crescendo> jrib, I'd like to use a graphic interface, though
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: On Linux, "nothing happened" usually means it worked.  (Opposite of Windows, which assumes it will fail and gets excited as says "YAY" when it succeeds)
[10:47] <jrib> Crescendo: gvim
[10:47] <ironfroggy_LT> what would cause trying to put a print job on hold or cancelling it freeze my cups server?
[10:47] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:Okay, what do I do?
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: Try ifconfig without the -a switch now and see if it's listed as up.
[10:48] <Crescendo> jrib, sudo apt-get install vim-gnome
[10:48] <Crescendo> ?
[10:48] <jrib> Crescendo: yep
[10:48] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:what do I type? I have no idea what you're saying.
[10:48] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso::(
[10:49] <Mwa> Does anyone know how to disable GRUB when running the installer?
[10:49] <Mwa> Please. ):
[10:49] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: 'ifconfig', as a command on the terminal.  Look for eth0 just like before, and especially see if it has an "inet addr" (IP).
[10:49] <Crescendo> jrib, nope, still does nothing
[10:50] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:Yep, tried my Firefox, it works.
[10:50] <jrib> Crescendo: what do you mean "does nothing"?  What are you trying to do and how?
[10:50] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:Now to get my wireless to work.
[10:50] <Stengah> what do i need to get to be able to do "make" and "qmake" commands?
[10:50] <Crescendo> Right click a file in nautilus, on an FTP server, and open with
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: Aweseome.  That's something.
[10:51] <jrib> Crescendo: hmm don't know how nautilus handles it.  Try 'gvim ftp://foobar'
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: You can do the same process if everything's good.
[10:51] <Crescendo> Gah, now GNOME isn't responding.
[10:51] <Crescendo> :/
[10:51] <Mwa> That reminds me
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: Either wifi0 or ath0, should be supported I think (Atheros?)
[10:51] <i7ch> what's the main feisty channel?
[10:51] <jrib> i7ch: #ubuntu+=1
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> i7ch: #ubuntu+1
[10:51] <Mwa> Which of the two options in the wireless thing is for WEP keys?
[10:51] <jrib> i7ch: what tonyyarusso said
[10:51] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:Okay, what do I do?
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> Mwa: Define "wireless thing"?
[10:52] <Mwa> Networking
[10:52] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: Use the ifconfig line with "up" in it, replace eth0 with wifi0 or ath0 (not sure if it matters)
[10:52] <i7ch> thanks
[10:52] <Mwa> System->Administration->Networking->Wireless->Configure
[10:52] <name> how to disable the "You inserted a blank disk, what do you want to do" shit
[10:52] <aiduciukas> Hi! how I can downgrade version? like gnome or other software?
[10:52] <tonyyarusso> Mwa: Does it say something like "Security key"?
[10:52] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:Okay, did that.
[10:53] <pantalaimon_> how can we manually delete shortcuts on the menu? i removed the package but it didnt remove the shortcut
[10:53] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:Now how do I install the drivers for my wifi?
[10:53] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: You probably already have them, if you were able to bring it up without errors.
[10:53] <Mwa> Password type: and Network Password:
[10:53] <Mwa> It offers "Plain (ASCII)" and "Hexadecimal"
[10:54] <tonyyarusso> Mwa: Ah, WEP is Hex
[10:54] <Mwa> Ok, thanks
[10:54] <tonyyarusso> (generally)
[10:54] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:After installing xchat on my ubuntu computer, I'll see if the wifi is working.
[10:54] <Mwa> Also, do you know how to stop GRUB installing when installing ubuntu?
[10:54] <aiduciukas> Hi! how I can downgrade version? like gnome or other software?
[10:54] <leny> pantalaimon: System > Preferences > Menu Layout
[10:55] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:I'll quit out, and log back in as Spaghetti_Knife.
[10:55] <Stengah> hello. i have just installed ubuntu and i want to make my win partitions writable, how
[10:55] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: Okay.  You can take the ethernet connection down by replacing "up" with "down" in the line to bring up eth0, and make sure your wireless card has an IP address.
[10:55] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:Thanks for your help.
[10:55] <Mwa> I tried setting the installation path to /dev/null
[10:55] <rambo3> what tool should i use to see what my browser is sending like tcp scan
[10:55] <Mwa> But this didn't work.
[10:55] <phaedrus44> why does penguinracer run so slow!
[10:55] <nunod> rambo3, ethereal
[10:56] <tonyyarusso> phaedrus44: Graphics card drivers most likely
[10:56] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:Okay, I'm back in.
[10:56] <Mwa> tonyyarusso: Do you know?
[10:56] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: Ethernet connection or wireless.
[10:56] <tonyyarusso> Mwa: Wild guess.
[10:56] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:Ethernet.
[10:56] <borg> can ethereal tell me if my wifi network is being used by wifi theives?
[10:56] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:What do I do to see if my wireless works?
[10:56] <sakara> hallo
[10:57] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:When I was downloading xchat, I pulled out the cable. It wouldn't continue until I plugged it back in.
[10:57] <Stengah> what do i need to get to be able to do "make" and "qmake" commands?
[10:57] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso:So I don't think my wifi works yet.
[10:57] <i7ch> Stengah, build-basic or something like this
[10:57] <sakara> i think i ve done summat to my dad computer
[10:57] <KenSentMe> !build-essential | Stengah
[10:57] <ubotu> Stengah: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:57] <adaptr> borg: no, you cannot
[10:57] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: Bring down the eth0 connection.  Then, check if there's an inet addr for the wireless card.
[10:57] <willskills> borg, logging into your router will tell you
[10:58] <sakara> i need help
[10:58] <i7ch> oh yeah, build-essential ;)
[10:58] <mnoir> Stengah: do you have build_essentials installed?
[10:58] <Mwa> tonyyarusso: "Wild guess"? I asked how to stop GRUB installing with ubuntu. x_X
[10:58] <Stengah> ty KenSentMe
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> Mwa: Wait...I thought you were referring to something else.
[10:58] <Mwa> tonyyarusso: Oh. :P
[10:58] <sakara> i think ive deleted windows
[10:59] <borg> let me rephrase can ethereal help me tell if someone is using my wifi netork? like say packets from an internal ip that was never assigned to my computers 192.168
[10:59] <faddatp> Hey, is anyone aware of a distro other than Fedora that works with a Intel X3000 GMA out of the box?
[10:59] <adaptr> borg: let me repeat: not easily.. define what you mean by "network"
[11:00] <leny> tonyyarusso: wrt Mwa's qn does alternate install let you put grub on the installed partition therefore avaoiding the problem?
[11:00] <rambo3> nunod, whats the command to start ethereal , cant find it
[11:00] <nunod> rambo3, maybe you should check if you have it installed first :)
[11:00] <rambo3> nunod, well i installed it
[11:00] <Mwa> I'm installing on a Macbook, which have completely messed up HD names
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> leny: I think the alternate allows you to skip grub entirely, not sure what it has for options of which drive to put it on
[11:00] <Crescendo> The "Opening <servername>" window NEEDS to stop popping up on TOP of the "Default Password" window.
[11:01] <Crescendo> It's really pissing my off.
[11:01] <Crescendo> I'm in the middle of typing a password, and the "opening server" pops up.
[11:01] <Crescendo> Of course, the only option is cancel.
[11:01] <Mwa> tonyyarusso: where's the alternate install?
[11:01] <cegy> what should i set in samba to be able to connect to some shared objects on windows?
[11:01] <tonyyarusso> Mwa: Same download page as the rest
[11:01] <Crescendo> So, when I press enter for the password, it cancels.
[11:01] <Crescendo> THAT'S some retarded crap.
[11:02] <baconbacon> cegy: shared objects?
[11:02] <Mwa> tonyyarusso: I need to download another CD?
[11:02] <baconbacon> shares?
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> Mwa: If you want to do the alternate one
[11:02] <cegy> baconbacon: like directories
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> Mwa: I'm not quite sure what you're trying to do
[11:02] <Mwa> tonyyarusso: I'm trying to normally install Ubuntu, but without GRUB
[11:02] <adaptr> cegy: define your workgroup, servername, and the directories you want to share
[11:02] <adaptr> cegy: a minmal samba config is quite short
[11:03] <Mwa> tonyyarusso: which there doesn't apear to be an option to do
[11:03] <Stengah> what's the name of the file you edit the partitions and boot proprieties with?
[11:03] <tonyyarusso> Mwa: Ah, sounds right then
[11:03] <tonyyarusso> Stengah: /etc/fstab
[11:03] <Stengah> ty
[11:03] <baconbacon> cegy: No setting for connecting to shares. In nautilus, type smb://server/share, or use shortcuts -> connect to server...
[11:04] <adaptr> cegy: sorry, I read your question backwards... :) just add a //server/share to fstab, or use the network server option
[11:04] <Mwa> tonyyarusso: So I do need to dl another CD?
[11:04] <Emo_Samurai> tonyyarusso:Okay, it's me, spaghetti_knife under a different name.
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> Mwa: I think so
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: Working now?
[11:04] <Emo_Samurai> tonyyarusso:My ethernet is no longer working.
[11:04] <luxuser> ls
[11:04] <luxuser> ciao
[11:04] <Mwa> tonyyarusso: meh. k
[11:04] <luxuser> we
[11:04] <luxuser> oki
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: Right, because you brought down the interface.
[11:04] <Mwa> This is gonna be hard to do
[11:04] <Zambezi> Can anyone check this firewallog and tell me if there's any concern?  Then I did the ifconfig eth0 up thing like 50 times.
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: So it's status currently is showing as up?
[11:06] <wheels3572> Can someone help me with a few issues im having wtih Xubuntu please
[11:06] <adaptr> Zambezi: what is this interface connected to ?
[11:06] <Emo_Samurai> tonyyarusso:It shows up when I type "ifconfig."
[11:06] <Mwa> Ah
[11:06] <Emo_Samurai> tonyyarusso:So... yeah?
[11:06] <Mwa> I understand
[11:06] <Mwa> Thakn you
[11:06] <Emo_Samurai> tonyyarusso:It still won't internet.
[11:06] <wheels3572> 1st:  I cant minimize my icons wtihout them disappearing on me
[11:07] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: Does it have an inet addr associated with it?  (*brb)
[11:07] <Emo_Samurai> tonyyarusso:Yes.
[11:07] <unimatrixzxero> Hello
[11:07] <nothlit> whats the ip
[11:07] <Zambezi> adaptr, I have to check.
[11:08] <nothlit> Emo_Samurai, are you trying to connect directly to the net or just you network
[11:08] <Jhuri> leny: u were saying?
[11:08] <Emo_Samurai> tonyyarusso:I'm trying to use the internet.
[11:08] <unimatrixzxero> I'm having trouble with Ubuntu 6.0.6 on a Pentium 4 530HT, I can't seem to compile anything is there some extra setup you have to do to get g++ or gcc compiler to work???
[11:08] <Emo_Samurai> tonyyarusso:What do I do?
[11:08] <adaptr> Zambezi: how do you mean ? either it's a switch, or an Internet connection, or a cross-cable to another PC.. there aren't any more sensible options, really
[11:08] <cegy> adaptr: when i open file browser and type: smb://ipadress then i become an error message
[11:08] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit: I'm trying to use the Internet.
[11:08] <nothlit> Emo_Samurai, through a router or what? do you have an adsl or cable modem
[11:08] <Zambezi> adaptr, I have two cards. One for internet and the second for LAN. I think LAN is eth1.
[11:09] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit: I'm using a cable modem.
[11:09] <adaptr> cegy: what file browser ? just go to Places... Network Server and browse for your share
[11:09] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: If you have both the ethernet and wireless up at the same time that could be the problem.
[11:09] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit: It worked when I used eth0 up before on the console, but now when I type it in, it doesn't link me to the net.] \
[11:09] <Zambezi> adaptr, It from the firewallog in IPCop which has two interfaces.
[11:09] <adaptr> Zambezi: type "ifconfig" to see what IP eth1 has - that will tell you
[11:09] <d3> *sigh* installing these ATi drivers is such a pain.
[11:10] <nothlit> Emo_Samurai, so no hardware changed then
[11:10] <wheels3572> HOW DO I FIX DISAPPEARING ICONS When I minimize a program?
[11:10] <stephan21> can somene tell me how to install nvidia drivers for edgy
[11:10] <adaptr> Zambezi: aha.. then forget about it, who wants to read firewall logs ?
[11:10] <stephan21> !nvidia
[11:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:10] <cegy> adaptr: that i did, but it doesnt work
[11:10] <kitche> !nvidia|stephan21
[11:10] <ubotu> stephan21: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:10] <Emo_Samurai> tonyyarusso:It's not doing anything.
[11:10] <leny> JHuri: What exactly were you wanting to achieve with what you were putting on your initrd?
[11:10] <adaptr> Zambezi: why would you bother with reading logs when yuo have ipcop running ?
[11:10] <nothlit> Emo_Samurai, usually cable modem problems are the cable between the computer and modem being the incorrect type of ethernet cable
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> nothlit: Nope, this was in the last 5 minutes.  Emo is trying to get both wired and wireless working; I suspect both cards are supported, but he's a little lost on the status of them.
[11:10] <Emo_Samurai> tonyyarusso:I took down wifi0 and put up eth0, and it still won't use the internet.
[11:10] <adaptr> cegy: define "didn't work" - what happened ?
[11:10] <Emo_Samurai> tonyyarusso:And it worked before.
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: What's its IP?
[11:11] <faddat> stephan21:  do you have a great similar trick set up for Intel G965 X3000's?
[11:11] <cegy> adaptr: i cant see there any shares
[11:11] <adaptr> cegy: what kind of shares do you HAVE, then ?
[11:11] <Emo_Samurai> tonyyarusso:its inet addr is <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:11] <faddat> We've been trying to get the graphics working properly on this motherboard *forever*.  Fedora has been the only distro we've enjoyed success with
[11:11] <kitche> stephan21: install the nvidia-glx package then shutdown X with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop then do sudo nvidia-glx-config enable then do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start and you should now be using hte nvidia drivers
[11:11] <Stengah>  /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1 does not mount as writable. i changed the defaults into "rw" same thing
[11:11] <NineTeen67Comet> Can an NFS user please look at this pastebin and see if they can tell why one directory would be read/write to all, and the other read only? .. I am perplexed . (shared is locked read only, yet shared-backup is r/w all) .. help?
[11:11] <NineTeen67Comet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36138/
[11:11] <nothlit> Emo_Samurai, thats an internal address, it means you're within a network
[11:11] <Zambezi> adaptr, I just read it for fun cause there's some ,morons which send about 2000 packages to the "last bridge". It's the last ip-number in the range. I can't explain what it is.
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: Do you have a router between you and the modem?
[11:12] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: Yes, I have a router between me and the modem.
[11:12] <adaptr> kitche: or he could just run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and restart the X server... why all the trouble ?
[11:12] <rrenaud> anyone play starcraft under ubuntu?  It is performing somewhere between poorly and terrible for me
[11:12] <KenSentMe> I try to play the video on this page, but get an error message 'Can't parse that. No files'. Anyone else have problems or a solution for the video on this page? http://www.omroep.nl/themakanaal/player/hollanddoc.html
[11:12] <jrib> Stengah: you can't write to ntfs, you need to use !fuse, which I know nothing about
[11:12] <Jhuri> leny: a boot capable k6 optimized kernel
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: Is the router and modem both up and running okay?  (Check the blinking lights)
[11:12] <Czarek> hi. how defragment ext2 under windows?
[11:12] <nothlit> Emo_Samurai, are you sure the router has internet access configured and working properly?
[11:12] <cegy> adaptr: im not sharing. i want to connect to windows shares
[11:12] <Stengah> ty jrib
[11:12] <adaptr> Zambezi: if I ever were to start reading what gets sent to my ADSL connection I would not have time to do anything else
[11:12] <nothlit> Emo_Samurai, log into the router and check if it has WLAN ip
[11:13] <jrib> !fuse | Stengah
[11:13] <ubotu> Stengah: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[11:13] <nothlit> err
[11:13] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarussoYes, they're working quite well. The computer I'm using is routing through it.
[11:13] <nothlit> Emo_Samurai, i mean WAN ip
[11:13] <adaptr> cegy: that is my quesiton: what shares should you have available, then? do you KNOW you have shares somewhere ?
[11:13] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: Okay, what does that mean? "WAN ip"?
[11:13] <nothlit> Emo_Samurai, nm you said its working
[11:13] <nothlit> Emo_Samurai, it stands for world area network btw, for the internet
[11:14] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: So what the frak do I do?
[11:14] <Zambezi> adaptr, The whole firewallog is on about 2000 pages. I read the summary.
[11:14] <cegy> adaptr: yes, im connectet throw hamachi and i know 100% there are shares
[11:14] <adaptr> cegy: it's quite simple: if the Network Servers browser does not show you any windows machines that have shares then either A) you don't have any, or B) they do not allow you to browse them
[11:14] <adaptr> cegy: "connectet throw hamachi" - huh ?
[11:14] <adaptr> that last does not parse, sorry
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: Can you ping google?  'ping www.google.com'
[11:15] <cegy> adaptr: connected via hamachi
[11:15] <nothlit> adaptr, hamachi is a virtual private networking utility thats relatively easy to use
[11:15] <adaptr> cegy: and hamachi is.. ?
[11:15] <cegy> adaptr: i dont speak english well :-)
[11:15] <Emo_Samurai> I just restarted the computer.
[11:15] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: I just restarted my computer.
[11:15] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: I'll tell you in a sec.
[11:15] <Czarek> how defragment ext3]  under windows?
[11:15] <scrocco> hi all - any tip about burning dvd discs , so they are readable by apple systems? i'm using k3b with DVD-R supports, but they always look empty when i insert them in 2 ibooks
[11:15] <adaptr> cegy: ah... and you are absolutely, positively certain that you can access the required ports throgh hamachi ?
[11:16] <kitche> adaptr: hamachi lets you play games over a network though your computer xbox ps3 and such
[11:16] <cegy> adaptr: http://www.hamachi.cc/
[11:16] <nothlit> scrocco, do they look empty under linux?
[11:16] <scrocco> nothlit:  no they are ok on my linux system
[11:16] <nothlit> scrocco, have you tried finalising the discs?
[11:17] <scrocco> nothlit:  i'm going look that. thx
[11:17] <nothlit> scrocco, check what filesystem you're burning them with
[11:17] <scrocco> i add UDF support
[11:17] <leny> Jhuri: Then you are probably better off connecting to one of the Debian archives (current/stable == Sarge) and downloadiong their kernel package you fancy. They are at www.debian.org .  If you download from their packages list you can use 'sudo dpkg -i <package>' to install it.
[11:17] <Czarek> how defragment ext3 under windows?
[11:17] <adaptr> cegy: and what are you connected to via this hamachi ? does your routing table show that it works ?
[11:17] <cegy> adaptr: on my sisters comp with windows i can download the shared files...
[11:18] <kitche> cegy: ah that one :) was thinking of the x-link type of system but maybe that is the one i m thinking of sicne I use x-link myself
[11:18] <nothlit> Czarek, why can't you defrag it under linux?
[11:18] <Jhuri> leny: yeah, I should have thought of that, thanx mate
[11:18] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: Okay, it works, but I had to restart my computer.
[11:18] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: How do I stop my terminal pinging it?
[11:19] <Czarek> nohlit - i need to stay on windows for a longer time, and meanwhile i can defrag the shared partition
[11:19] <adaptr> cegy: it's nigh on impossible to troubleshoot these kind of issues remotely... you'll have to dive into networking to get anywhere on this
[11:19] <cegy> adaptr: the connection works, hamachi says me, im connected and showed me all other users...
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: Ctrl-C
[11:19] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: Thanks.
[11:19] <nothlit> Emo_Samurai, next time you ping something use -c #
[11:19] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: Now how do I get my wifi to work?
[11:19] <nothlit> lool
[11:19] <adaptr> cegy: can you identify the remote machine in hamachi ? if so, try to conenct to it directly
[11:20] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: See if you can take down the ethernet, bring up the wifi, and have an IP address for the wifi, if so, try ping.
[11:20] <cegy> adaptr: yes, o know the ip
[11:20] <Czarek> is there way do defrag ext3 under windows?
[11:21] <jamesbrose>  Whats that Edgy Tweaks page
[11:21] <nothlit> Czarek, i'm not sure something like that exists, or if you want to use it... only way i would think is to use linux within windows to do it, there are options like colinux, cygwin and virtual machines, but i would still recommend doing inside linux
[11:21] <jamesbrose> ?
[11:21] <adaptr> cegy: then ping it, perhaps, or try to access it with smbclient
[11:21] <nothlit> Czarek, if you would want to use it*
[11:21] <adaptr> Czarek: why would yo want to do that ?
[11:21] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: It says "Unknown Host"
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: What does?
[11:21] <nothlit> adaptr, he uses windows mostly so he figures in his free time he could defrag it
[11:22] <Crankymonky> Does anyone else have trouble playing flash audio, like in purevolume?
[11:22] <alex_> how do I set how to mount any usb dev ? I have a box with Etch and I have /etc/usbmount, on ubuntu, it is not, any idea ?
[11:22] <nothlit> tonyyarusso, his wifi
[11:22] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: Does it have an IP?
[11:22] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: My terminal.
[11:22] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: It can't frakking ping google.
[11:22] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: Not over the wireless.
[11:22] <cegy> adaptr: ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted ... and i used sudo
[11:22] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: And now I took down wifi0 and took eth0 up, and it's not working again.
[11:22] <adaptr> cegy: then that's something that hamachi probably blocks
[11:22] <Czarek> nothlit: tommorow i will use shared partition under ubuntu
[11:22] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: It has to have an IP address first.  Use dhclient to get one.
[11:23] <Czarek> nothlit that`s why
[11:23] <adaptr> Czarek: shared partition ? that's new
[11:23] <kitche> Emo_Samurai: this might be a wild gues sbut did you turn off ipv6? your wireless might be choking on using that just a thought
[11:23] <nothlit> !wireless | Emo_Samurai
[11:23] <ubotu> Emo_Samurai: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:23] <alex_> anyone ?
[11:23] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: Okay, you have to realize I have no idea what you're talking about.
[11:23] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: More specifically?
[11:23] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: It says nothing about ip addresses, just inet addr.
[11:23] <alex_> how do I set how to mount any usb dev ? I have a box with Etch and I have /etc/usbmount, on ubuntu, it is not, any idea ?
[11:23] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: It's not pinging.
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: inet == IP
[11:24] <adaptr> alex_: we heard you the first time
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> (v4)
[11:24] <nothlit> alex_, if you're still running under gnome it will be automounted in /media
[11:24] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: Okay, so what the frak do I do to get my ethernet working again?
[11:24] <adaptr> Emo_Samurai: I'd be more inclined to help you without the "frakking"
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: We don't know, because we don't know what's happening.  You need to tell us.
[11:25] <alex_> nothlit: yes, but I would like to change the way it mount them I woud like to remove the option noexec and nodev
[11:25] <nothlit> alex_, umount them and remount them normally
[11:25] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: I typed in "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" and "sudo ifconfig wifi0 down"
[11:25] <nothlit> !info pmount | alex_
[11:25] <ubotu> pmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1build1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 588 kB
[11:25] <leny> alex_: AFAIK usb disks appear in the /dev/sd? series. If you haven't got an SATA then 'sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt' should do.
[11:25] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: Then I typed in "ping www.google.com."
[11:25] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: It doesn't ping.
[11:25] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: We said to check the IP first.
[11:25] <Awal> can somebody tell me what the best way to install Steam is?
[11:26] <willskills> awal
[11:26] <alex_> leny: yes my usb media is /dev/sbd
[11:26] <Awal> yes
[11:26] <willskills> just copy your steam directory from your windows install
[11:26] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit and tonyyarusso: There's an ip. It's <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:26] <adaptr> Emo_Samurai: you seriously need to calm down a little
[11:26] <willskills> and run it through wine
[11:26] <willskills> I was playing CS ten minutes ago
[11:26] <adaptr> Emo_Samurai: okay, you have an IP - on which interface ?
[11:26] <alex_> leny: but still this does not help me, I really need to change the way it mount them
[11:26] <Awal> ic
[11:26] <willskills> am playing WoW now
[11:26] <Awal> but I just nuked my hard drive so no windows right now
[11:27] <Awal> I can get to a different computer though
[11:27] <nothlit> Awal, the information tool steam or the game downloader steam
[11:27] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit tonyyarusso adaptr: Okay, what do you mean by that? It's showing on my console.
[11:27] <adaptr> Emo_Samurai: is this IP connected to the internet ? type "route -n" to see
[11:27] <leny> alex_: What do you want it to mount like?
[11:27] <adaptr> Emo_Samurai: an interface is a network port
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: What's showing, where on your console, as output of what?
[11:27] <nothlit> adaptr, on his ethernet
[11:27] <Awal> steam games like counter strike
[11:27] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit tonyyarusso adaptr: It's showing <IP_ADDRESS> for gateway.
[11:27] <adaptr> Emo_Samurai: what does "route -n" show you ?
[11:27] <nothlit> adaptr, he brought down his ethernet card to try wireless and when he brought eth0 back up his internet still no longer functioned
[11:28] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit tonyyarusso adaptr:I just typed in "route -n"
[11:28] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: What are the destinations?
[11:28] <adaptr> Emo_Samurai: great - now you need to show us what the result was
[11:28] <nothlit> Emo_Samurai, that means your computer doesn't know your router is how it should get to the internet
[11:28] <alex_> leny, I am following a tutorial to install a debian sid on a usb media and I am using debootstrap for this, I have some chroot problem at the installation time, in the tutorial it says to remove the mount option noexe and nodev if this happens
[11:28] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit tonyyarusso adaptr:It shows me the destination, <IP_ADDRESS>, the gateway 0l0l0l0, and Genmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:28] <nothlit> !wine | Awal
[11:28] <ubotu> Awal: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:28] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: No others?
[11:28] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit tonyyarusso adaptr:No others.
[11:28] <adaptr> Emo_Samurai: I'd get a new IP, that should also set your gateway
[11:29] <adaptr> Emo_Samurai: run "sudo dhclient"
[11:29] <nothlit> Awal, for help with wine or cedega, go to #wine and #cedega
[11:29] <leny> alex_: Generally such options appear in /etc/fstab
[11:29] <d1gital> i have beryl installed and running, but i can't seem to find a setting that allows me to do this:  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Beryl.png      can anyone help?
[11:29] <kitche> Emo_Samurai: ping this ip <IP_ADDRESS> it's google's
[11:29] <Awal> nothlit: thanks i will try that, I did try wine but it didnt work well
[11:29] <Awal> nothlit: I mean not at all
[11:29] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit tonyyarusso adaptr:Okay, it's working, at least for the eth0.
[11:29] <nothlit> Awal, you can try cedega cvs, look online for guides
[11:30] <Awal> ok
[11:30] <leny> alex_: Which you can edit with sudo <editor-name> /etc/fstab
[11:30] <adaptr> Emo_Samurai: what's working ?
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: When you try your wireless the next time, do the same thing.
[11:30] <Jowi> d1gital, hold down shift key to enable snap to border.
[11:30] <alex_> leny: I have looked into it but it does not specify it for usbmount
[11:30] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit tonyyarusso adaptr: My ethernet's working.
[11:30] <nothlit> Emo_Samurai, Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:30] <Emo_Samurai> nothlit tonyyarusso adaptr: So when I take down eth0 and put up wifi0, I type "sudo dhclient?"
[11:30] <Jowi> d1gital, hold down shift while moving/resizing a window that is
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> Emo_Samurai: yes
[11:31] <adaptr> Emo_Samurai: dhclient will use your first interface by default, so that will just bring up eth0 again
[11:31] <scrocco> nothlit: this the way I usually burn DVDs : I add Rock Ridge , Joliet and UDF and make a ISO9660 file, then i burn it on the disc
[11:31] <nothlit> Emo_Samurai, you have to get your wireless card drivers working and enter things like the SSID encryption method and password
[11:31] <d1gital> jowi:  that's all that is? i thought it was a whole different thing. thanks
[11:31] <wceoscar> HEy, I just gave my unalocated drive a fat32 partition wich wndows recognises without a prob... but on ubuntu i cant see the drive?????????????????
[11:32] <Jowi> d1gital, nope that's all. the window in the screenshot has snapped to the lower left corner. then it is moved.
[11:32] <nothlit> !fat | wceoscar
[11:32] <ubotu> wceoscar: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:32] <blekos> hi guys, is there a way to write/delete/copy to and from win partitions?
[11:33] <nothlit> !fat | blekos
[11:33] <ubotu> blekos: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:33] <nothlit> !ntfs-3g | blekos
[11:33] <ubotu> blekos: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:33] <wyld> I'm thinking about buying a laptop and putting linux on it. Could anyone give me a recommendation on which brands/chipsets have good linux drivers?
[11:33] <leny> alex_: does usbmount allow you to do a 'sudo umount /dev/sbd; mount -o noexe,nodev /dev/sbd /mnt' ?
[11:33] <kitche> wyld: mostly lenovo laptops work great in linux
[11:34] <leny> alex_: oops do 'sudo bash' then do the bit from umount onwards
[11:34] <wyld> kitche: how is the quality on lenove?
[11:34] <wyld> *lenovo
[11:34] <cypher1> wyld, i think there is a laptop testing team.. you can check the link to whether there are any problems with specific laptops
[11:34] <kitche> wyld: they are/were IBM laptops
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> wyld: I have a Thinkpad from early after their acquisition, and it's great.  No idea what their newer stuff is like.
[11:34] <xerophyte> in the vim if you split the buffer how can you open a new file in the bottom or top butter
[11:34] <Tjoels> how do i install from a bin file?
[11:35] <adaptr> Tjoels: make it executable and run it: #./binfile
[11:35] <mnoir> xerophyte: ask in #vim ?
[11:35] <nothlit> leny, you're telling him to mount something directly to /mnt? sans subdirectory?
[11:35] <adaptr> Tjoels: or just open it with a shell if it's a shell script installer: ./sh binfile
[11:35] <blekos> k
[11:35] <blekos> j
[11:35] <Tjoels> adaptr: ok, thanks ;)
[11:36] <leny> nothlit: yup /mnt not /media
[11:36] <BigCanOfTuna> What is the most appropriate way to init services at boot time? Redhat has chkconfig, doesn't look like Ubuntu uses that.
[11:36] <xerophyte> mnoir, smart catch but i have done that before i came here ;)
[11:36] <yoiuwer> can you tell me a good program to listen to internet radios except real player?
[11:36] <blekos> hi, is there any way to copy/write/delete from and to win partitions?
[11:36] <adaptr> BigCanOfTuna: use the Services applet in system administration
[11:36] <kitche> !players|yoiuwer
[11:36] <ubotu> yoiuwer: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:37] <yoiuwer> blekos, yes, you have to get ntfs3g
[11:37] <Tjoels> adaptr: is it possible to convert a .bin file to .deb?
[11:37] <Jowi> yoiuwer, streamtuner
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> BigCanOfTuna: update-rc.d
[11:37] <kitche> yoiuwer: just take a pick from that list nad try them out see whta you like
[11:37] <nothlit> leny, no the command you gave him was mount /dev/xxx..... /mnt... not sudo mkdir /mnt/xxx && sudo mount /dev/xxx... /mnt/xxx
[11:37] <BigCanOfTuna> tonyyarusso: thanks.
[11:37] <Tjoels> adaptr: so i can uninstall the program easier...
[11:37] <nothlit> !fat | blekos
[11:37] <ubotu> blekos: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:37] <nothlit> !ntfs-3g | blekos
[11:37] <ubotu> blekos: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:38] <adaptr> Tjoels: not easily, no
[11:38] <msikma> Hello everybody. I'm trying to find fonts for obscure languages. Is there any list of TTF fonts that I can apt-get? I just got a Tibetan font and am now looking for a Sindhi font.
[11:38] <Jowi> yoiuwer, (streamtuner uses xmms to actually play the inet radio station but it is good in the way that it lists the stations by category for you: 80's, 90's, rock, classic etc etc)
[11:38] <ivx> hey how can i install ununtu on a sata device
[11:38] <BigCanOfTuna> tonyyarusso: how do I tell what runlevel I am in?
[11:38] <kitche> blekos: do you mean a ntfs drive?
[11:38] <adaptr> BigCanOfTuna: runlevel ?
[11:38] <Tjoels> adaptr: ok.. so if i want to uninstall the program again, is there an easy way to do that,?
[11:38] <leny> nolith: sorry I always use /mnt as temporary a mount. If I want a permenant mount it goes in /media is this wrong?
[11:38] <name>        runlevel - display previous and current runlevel
[11:38] <Jowi> BigCanOfTuna, type "runlevel" in a terminal
[11:38] <tonyyarusso> BigCanOfTuna: Yep, runlevel.  (Default is 2)
[11:39] <Rubin_> what is apt-index-watch? its always using like 50% of my cpu :(
[11:39] <leny> nothlit: sorry I always use /mnt as temporary a mount. If I want a permenant mount it goes in /media is this wrong?
[11:39] <BigCanOfTuna> thanks!!
[11:39] <alex_> there is nothing in /etc/fstab that say how to mount any hotplug device such as my usb media, can I create an entry there  or is there another place for this case ?
[11:39] <cypher1> yoiuwer,  rhytmbox
[11:39] <adaptr> Tjoels: that depends on what the installer *does*.. most 3rd-party installers install in /opt, under their own subdirectory, which should make it trivial to remove
[11:39] <lyy> what sould i type to install gcc and all other dev tools?
[11:39] <kitche> lyy: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:39] <lyy> thanks
[11:40] <kitche> leny: well your suppose to mount things in /mnt/<subdir> not in /mnt itself
[11:40] <Jowi> alex_, i have this in fstab for mine: "/dev/sdb1       /media/usb-disk vfat    defaults,rw,umask=000   0   0"
[11:40] <adaptr> lyy: you might want to rephrase "all other build tools" - there are several thousand of those
[11:40] <Tjoels> adaptr: so then i just need to remove the directory /opt/program/ to uninstall?
[11:40] <adaptr> Tjoels: if it was a well-behaved program, yes
[11:40] <alex_> Jowi, what version of ubuntu ?
[11:40] <nothlit> leny, no, like i said before you told him a command to mount the drive to /mnt rather than a subdirectory inside it
[11:40] <Jowi> alex_, your /dev/ will probably be a different one though
[11:40] <Jowi> alex_, I use dapper but this will work with any type of linux installation.
[11:40] <nothlit> leny, when you give people commands you have to be more careful than instructions
[11:40] <blekos> yes ntfs drive
[11:40] <Tjoels> adaptr: ok, thank you.
[11:41] <kitche> blekos: ok you want to use ntfs-3g then
[11:41] <yoiuwer> Jowi, hm ok ill try this one... i tried totem but there are bugs there i think, the transmition gets mixed up
[11:41] <leny> kitche & nothlit : sorry is this LSB directories that I've not read or something?
[11:41] <lyy> adaptr: gcc
[11:41] <kitche> leny: no it's actually been that way for a long time
[11:41] <Jowi> alex_, my line assumes that it is a fat formatted drive and that you want read/write abilities on it for all users.
[11:41] <lyy> and cc
[11:41] <slinky_> If I have DevHelp installed is there any reason to have Monodoc installed also?
[11:42] <adaptr> lyy: I understood that - and cc is a part of gcc
[11:42] <kent> slinky_: not unless you are developing with mono.
[11:42] <nothlit> leny, lol also, its generally permanent mounts can be in /mnt and temporary in media... though permanent can be in /media too
[11:43] <adaptr> slinky_: if it is a separate package then the chances are you do want them both, yes
[11:43] <alex_> Jowi: if I want to mount it by default but want to change an option can I do a defaults,exe for ex ?
[11:43] <leny> kitche:  Thx kitche I was trying to avoid making similar mistakes by reading the right docs . One trained HP-UX guy I knew mounted things as /local1 /local2 etc. I'm trying to learn from my mistakes.
[11:43] <slinky_> kent: what does Mono offer for development, I am not familiar with it
[11:43] <adaptr> alex_: you want it to be able to execute files ?
[11:43] <adaptr> slinky_: it's dot.net for Linux
[11:43] <NickK> Are there ubuntu packages for the development releases of MESA?
[11:44] <slinky_> ok thank you very much, a necessity for me :)
[11:44] <leny> nothlit: thx
[11:44] <Jowi> alex_, I think the auto-mount at boot option is called "auto" but check (man fstab)
[11:44] <zipzo> hi how can i get a cd iso burner? I dled and installed k3b through packet manager, but like many other programs i never get a start icon in my menu and when i go to the installed folder theres no executable file there
[11:44] <adaptr> zipzo: it sounds like you have more fundamental problems then
[11:45] <adaptr> zipzo: which package manager did you use ?
[11:45] <nothlit> Jowi, auto is for filesystems...all things in fstab get mounted at boot
[11:45] <zipzo> synaptic
[11:45] <python> hi
[11:45] <bun_tun_dun> hi. somebody here have made an authentication against samba PDC?
[11:45] <tshirtman> Bonsoir a tous
[11:45] <python> I'm downloaded ubuntu 6.10 from the site
[11:45] <adaptr> nothlit: of course not - only those that are set to auto get mounted at boot
[11:45] <python> downloading*
[11:45] <slinky_> After several crashes using kubuntu and KDE, I committed myself to Dapper Drake for the length of life it allows
[11:45] <nothlit> bun_tun_dun, have you checked the samba section of the server guide
[11:45] <tshirtman> enfin j'ai de nouveau le net chez moi ^^
[11:45] <python> Is it the live CD?
[11:45] <M3L7down> can you guys help me force my resolution larger?
[11:46] <Jowi> nothlit, thanks for clearing it up. i never auto mount my usb devices so it is of no real interest for me :)
[11:46] <M3L7down> well, not really force, my monitor can handle it
[11:46] <alex_> Jowi, but if I have an entry in my fstab, will it overwrite the auto mount currently in process ? should I restart any ps after editing this file ?
[11:46] <tshirtman> oups escuse me I thought I was on #ubuntu-fr
[11:46] <kitche> python: if you have the desktop-install cd it is
[11:46] <adaptr> M3L7down: what do you mean, "force"
[11:46] <M3L7down> I mean
[11:46] <python> cool kitche
[11:46] <python> I'm looking to dual boot linux
[11:46] <zipzo> adaptr: synaptic
[11:46] <M3L7down> I can't get it to detect my changes to the
[11:46] <M3L7down> sec
[11:46] <python> ubuntu is the best distro imo
[11:47] <M3L7down> I will find the file name again
[11:47] <python> apt-get rules
[11:47] <python> xD
[11:47] <Jowi> alex_, you can have multiple lines. but only one line per device. "mount -a" will remount the devices in the fstab
[11:47] <adaptr> zipzo: then you do have serious problems if you have nothing after installation.. I'd check that first
[11:47] <python> kitche , once I dl it, I can just run it live yes?
[11:47] <meshyf> Hey everybody, anyone know where I can find some Card reader drivers?
[11:47] <slinky_> I have a new computer arriving ina few days A duo core E6600, do I need the 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[11:47] <nothlit> adaptr, then defaults includes auto?
[11:47] <kitche> python: if you burn it to cd you can
[11:47] <python> yup, I have a dvd right here
[11:47] <zipzo> its been that way off and on, sometimes i get a program from package manager and it never show in the list
[11:47] <Jowi> brb
[11:47] <M3L7down> adaptr: I added lines to xorg.conf
[11:47] <adaptr> nothlit: certainly
[11:48] <M3L7down> that are supposed to add another value to the selections
[11:48] <M3L7down> right
[11:48] <M3L7down> 1152x864
[11:48] <M3L7down> but
[11:48] <bun_tun_dun> gdm messages me with "administrator have disabled access to the system" when i logon to ubuntu with a domain account
[11:48] <NickK> anyone know if there are any mesa 6.5.2 packages for ubuntu?
[11:48] <M3L7down> it doesn't show up
[11:48] <kitche> zipzo: open up a console and do k3b
[11:48] <nothlit> adaptr, sry haven't read man fstab in years
[11:48] <bun_tun_dun> on kubuntu, it works
[11:48] <M3L7down> I follow a forum post here
[11:48] <adaptr> M3L7down: if you want X to support whatever your monitor supports, then you have to add its capabilities to xorg.conf
[11:48] <M3L7down> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=315369
[11:48] <zipzo> in fact, i have noticed on every install of Ubuntu ive done that some programs you get from package manager never have an icon in the startup menus
[11:48] <nothlit> bun_tun_dun, have you checked the gdm xdmcp settings?
[11:48] <M3L7down> adaptr: I belive I did
[11:48] <python> forgive me kitche , but isn't 700megs small for ubuntu
[11:49] <bun_tun_dun> hum, i don't think so
[11:49] <M3L7down> but it can't be easy like this guy said right
[11:49] <M3L7down> lol
[11:49] <bun_tun_dun> let me see
[11:49] <python> last time I dl'ed ubuntu it was 2.1 Gb or something
[11:49] <nothlit> python, its compressed, and you must have d.led the dvd
[11:49] <zipzo> Is that normal? i mean i have alot of stuff on here now i cant remeber all its names
[11:49] <kitche> python: nope that's cd image the dvd image has more packages on it
[11:49] <adaptr> M3L7down: google for "monitorworld" and the make and model of yoru monitor, that will tell you its frequencies
[11:49] <blue-frog> how do i reconfigure my keyboard in console, pls?
[11:49] <python> :o
[11:49] <M3L7down> okay
[11:49] <nothlit> kitche, i thought dvd just = live+alternate
[11:49] <M3L7down> but I am absolutely sure my monitor can do this
[11:49] <python> i have Suse aswell, but its 5 cd's too much
[11:49] <M3L7down> windows works on this resolution
[11:49] <M3L7down> very well infact
[11:49] <adaptr> M3L7down: that's fine, but you have to *know* the specs. period.
[11:50] <slinky_> adaptr: hello, which version of ubuntu show i use with my new Intel Duo Core E6600? PC or 64 bit?
[11:50] <adaptr> M3L7down: get back when you have them
[11:50] <noelferreira> anyone with rt61 wireless driver working on edgy amd64?
[11:50] <kitche> nothlit: if it was then that would be a lot of space wasted on the dvd since those would only take up 1.4 gigs of space
[11:50] <nothlit> python, you only need the first disc disc for basic stuff, the others should just be packages, but i don't use suse so i could be wrong
[11:50] <adaptr> slinky_: I have no idea whether 64 bit is as stable as 32 bit yet
[11:50] <adaptr> slinky_: otehrs can tell you much more
[11:50] <leny> blue-frog: loadkeys if you want to do it temporarily
[11:51] <python> desktop cd = live cd right?
[11:51] <kitche> python: didn't you say you have a dvd?
[11:51] <blue-frog> leny: permanently, have fr in terminal I want us
[11:51] <kitche> python yes
[11:51] <adaptr> M3L7down: actually, it is relatively easy - if you know what to change
[11:51] <nothlit> slinky_, 64 bit is fine but things like flash and binary blobs you'll have to run in 32 bit mode, which can complicate things
[11:52] <nothlit> python, the alternate cd is also a livecd, you know
[11:52] <funkyHat> Where would I report a bug about ipw2200 firmware needing updating?
[11:52] <slinky_> nothlit: will it run fine using PC version?
[11:52] <nothlit> !launchpad | funkyHat
[11:52] <ubotu> funkyHat: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[11:52] <Jowi> M3L7down, you can use "gtf 1280 1024 60 -x" or something similar depending of what you want, and paste the output for that command in the Monitor section in xorg.conf. you might need to add: Option "DDC" "false"       as well. but not 100% sure it's needed
[11:52] <nothlit> slinky_, basically you can use 64bit if you like but it'll be more hassle
[11:52] <kitche> nothlit: the alternate cd doesn't have a live system on it at least from what I have seen
[11:52] <python> nothlit , whats the difference?
[11:52] <M3L7down> adaptr: what do I need to change?
[11:52] <Belter_> is their problems with Linux and WIFI networking?
[11:53] <adaptr> M3L7down: did you find the specs for your monitor ?
[11:53] <d1gital> belter: depends on the card
[11:53] <funkyHat> nothlit, I know about launchpad, I'm used to bugzilla though... not quite got my head round malone
[11:53] <jman_> Does anybody know any good dial up modems that are supported by ubuntu, (i.e work automagically)
[11:53] <kitche> Belter_: what chipset?
[11:53] <M3L7down> I am not sure
[11:53] <python> bit torrent is much faster
[11:53] <nothlit> kitche, oh yeah rofl... thinking about the gentoo livecd
[11:53] <M3L7down> this is an old hand me down
[11:53] <M3L7down> that I got from a friends friend
[11:53] <python> http was sloooooooow
[11:53] <alex_> Jowi: I have updated the file for it to mount /dev/sbd into /myusbdir, but when unp[luging and pluging my usb media back in it still mounts them into a usbdisk dir
[11:53] <M3L7down> but there are only 3 choices
[11:53] <adaptr> M3L7down: what is the make and model of your monitor ? i'l lget them for you
[11:53] <M3L7down> of this producer
[11:53] <M3L7down> and they are all the same hrz
[11:53] <M3L7down> refresh rate I mean
[11:53] <python> uTorrent speed : 850.56 kb/s download
[11:53] <M3L7down> and
[11:53] <M3L7down>  same max rez
[11:53] <slinky_> nothlit: I would like to move my disk drive into the new box, is that a possibility?
[11:54] <Jowi> alex_, are you using gnome? gnome has its own auto mount set up already.
[11:54] <alex_> Jowi: something must override the fstab
[11:54] <BigCanOfTuna> Where can I see if a specific script was executed at runtime? I have an init script that I am expecting to start, but it doesn't for some reason.
[11:54] <M3L7down> adaptr: its one o fthese three http://www.monitorworld.com/Monitors/sylvania/
[11:54] <alex_> Jowi: yes I am
[11:54] <d1gital> python:   850k?  what kind of connection do you have?
[11:54] <alex_> Jowi, where do I found that ?
[11:54] <nothlit> slinky_, do you expect to boot from it?
[11:54] <noelferreira> anyone with rt61 wireless driver working on edgy amd64?
[11:54] <python> 8mbit at home
[11:54] <slinky_> dual boot like i have now
[11:54] <python> 100/100 on my server
[11:54] <qkslvrwolf> so...umm...all of a sudden gnome baker isn't recognizing mp3s
[11:54] <alex_> Jowi: I mean where do I found how gnome auto-mount the dev
[11:54] <qkslvrwolf> and it used to
[11:54] <Jowi> alex_, I am not using gnome but I think the setting is in the preferences menu somewhere for usb, cdrom etc
[11:54] <qkslvrwolf> for audio
[11:54] <qkslvrwolf> any ideas?
[11:54] <qkslvrwolf> *audio disk creation
[11:54] <python> uTorrent is fast d1gital
[11:54] <nothlit> slinky_, you have to know how to reconfigure xorg and the drivers, also grub and fstab
[11:55] <Belter_> anybody using Belkin FSD700 WIFI NIC
[11:55] <NickK> anyone know where i can get mesa 6.5.2 for ubuntu
[11:55] <slinky_> i can do grub and fstab, just learning xorg
[11:55] <adaptr> M3L7down: then open up xorg.conf: #sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:55] <d1gital> python: yes i know i use uTorrent as well, but i have DSL, so nothing insanely fast goin' on
[11:55] <python> I got ADSL
[11:55] <Pelo> alex_,  I think this might be what you are looking for  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[11:55] <python> 8/0/8 mbit
[11:55] <python> its fairly slow
[11:56] <adaptr> python: 0 mbit would be slow, yes...
[11:56] <python> 0.8 *
[11:56] <python> _
[11:56] <python> my server is alot faster though
[11:56] <python> 100/100
[11:56] <slinky_> nothlit: what is the best way to do a full system backup/restore in ubuntu, if any way exists
[11:56] <python> distros take seconds to xfer over torrents
[11:56] <noelferreira> anyone with rt61 wireless driver working on edgy amd64?
[11:56] <Tuxguy> Does anyone know if you burn an ISO for mac ppc images the same as iso for i386?
[11:56] <nothlit> slinky_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:56] <M3L7down> adaptr: so you want me to alt-f2 and run this xorg.conf: #sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:56] <Belter_> Are the Belkin WIFI cards normally a problem with v6.10
[11:56] <ubuntu> hi
[11:56] <nothlit> slinky_, like bare metal restore? mondo, regular backup, sbackup
[11:56] <ubuntu> can apt or dpkg check the integrity of the installed files ??
[11:56] <d1gital> yeah my average d/l speed on utorrent is like 85, nothing compared to 800
[11:57] <nothlit> !mondo | slinky
[11:57] <ubotu> mondo: powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.08-2-2 (edgy), package size 391 kB, installed size 1128 kB
[11:57] <kitche> Tuxguy: yes since the filesystem is inside the iso
[11:57] <adaptr> M3L7down: from the sudo part onward, yes - but please get used to running a console terminal
[11:57] <Jowi> d1gital, are you behind a router?
[11:57] <M3L7down> I know
[11:57] <python> d1gital , whats ye home connectio?
[11:57] <M3L7down> I understand
[11:57] <Tuxguy> kitche, Ever had any luck, or heard of installing ubuntu on the imac G3?
[11:57] <d1gital> jowi: yes
[11:57] <slinky_> thank you nothlit
[11:57] <qkslvrwolf> So, my gnomebaker stopped recognizing mp3s to burn audio cd's....any ideas where to start?
[11:57] <PPAAUULL> Ok I want to play some 3d games on Ubuntu like ET and such but the problem is that everytime I start something that need the 3D it gives me this error "drmCommandWrite: -22" and on the next line "drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22 (exiting)". Is there anyway of fixing it?
[11:57] <Jowi> d1gital, are the ports open for bittorrent in it?
[11:57] <adaptr> M3L7down: if you have xorg.conf open, find the "Monitor" section
[11:57] <nothlit> slinky_, sbackup is a great little tool if you're just worried about data
[11:58] <python> go to irc.p2p-network.net then join #utorrent
[11:58] <Pelo> Tuxguy,  someone mention they have done it, don'T ask me who I don'T recall but they seamed to be safisfied
[11:58] <nothlit> slinky_, most people prefer partimage but i am of the firm opinion that mondo is better
[11:58] <Arwen> PPAAUULL, installing Cedega might help... but if not, you just have to install Windows (I'm assuming its a Windows game?)
[11:58] <M3L7down> kk
[11:58] <Tuxguy> Pelo, My machine is 233mhz, 32mb ram, 4GB hd, can I do an installation?
[11:58] <python> Pelo , how come ur not on #utorrent pn p2p-net?
[11:58] <Arwen> all my media players break when using beryl - what should I do?
[11:58] <nothlit> !mp3 | qkslvrwolf
[11:58] <ubotu> qkslvrwolf: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:58] <d1gital> jowi: yeah, i think so, i used to get like 10kbps before opening them, so i'm pretty sure i did it correctly, could be wrong tho
[11:58] <adaptr> nothlit: is mondo in the repos ?
[11:58] <Pelo> Tuxguy,  you might want to look into xubuntu
[11:59] <slinky_> ok thank you very much, i'll do some reading, you guys are great, thanks
[11:59] <PPAAUULL> Arwen, It is not a windows game it is a linux version.
[11:59] <M3L7down> I have found the monitor section
[11:59] <Arwen> d1gital, opening is overrated, I had 2MB up and 1.4MB down with closed ports
[11:59] <Pelo> python,   I use to be , I got in a a row with dwk
[11:59] <adaptr> M3L7down: when you have the Monitor section in front of you, fill in the values you got from monitorworld :
[11:59] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso: Okay, I've downloaded madwifi, how do I compile it?
[11:59] <Tuxguy> Pelo, What's that? Just a smaller resource ubuntuu?
[11:59] <Arwen> PPAAUULL, what graphics card and what driver?
[11:59] <M3L7down> alright
[11:59] <qkslvrwolf> ubotu: I do use free formats when I rip cd's now, but I have a large collection.  Second, its been working, and now its stopped.  So this is not just a "how do I use mp3s on my ubuntu box" question
[11:59] <python> Pelo , yu heard what happened to Ludde?
[11:59] <M3L7down> if I disappear you know what happened
[11:59] <tonyyarusso> Spaghetti_Knife: I wouldn't know.  See !compile for starters.
[11:59] <Jowi> d1gital, i would double check. 6881-6889 tcp are the ports to use. redirect them to your computers ip address.
[11:59] <leny> blue-frog: You need to update /etc/console-setup/boottime.kmap.gz with the appropriate file. brb
[11:59] <python> Bram bought utorrent
[11:59] <python> bastard
[11:59] <slinky_> is there a url for mondo?
[11:59] <adaptr> M3L7down: HorizSync  30-69
[11:59] <qkslvrwolf> I have the codecs installed, and I'm listening to them right now
[11:59] <Pelo> Tuxguy,  yeah,  used xfce instead of gnome
[12:00] <python> and DWK and Directrix is furious
[12:00] <qkslvrwolf> its only gnome baker that isn't picking it up
[12:00] <Tuxguy> xfce is nice and lightweight
[12:00] <adaptr> M3L7down: VertRefresh  50-90
[12:00] <Pelo> python,  do you mean the deal with bram ? or something else ?
[12:00] <noelferreira> anyone with rt61 wireless driver working on edgy amd64?
[12:00] <python> yes Pelo
[12:00] <mcscruff> lo all, im trying to mount a samba share but i keep getting this error 12037: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[12:00] <beerockxs> does anyone here have an ati x1900GT and know how to make normal console mode work after having started X once?
[12:00] <alex_> Jowi: ok, knowing that I disabled the gnome auto mount facility, how do I see to which /dev my flash media is attributed when hotplug ?
[12:00] <adaptr> M3L7down: don't be silly - none of this will influence X in hte slightest
[12:00] <alex_> Jowi: mount ?
[12:00] <python> Name	#	Size	Done	Status	Seeds	Peers	Down speed	Up speed	ETA	Uploaded	Ratio	Avail.	Label	Added On	Completed On
[12:00] <python> ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso	1	698 MB	46.2 %	Downloading	140 (699)	8 (102)	827.1 kB/s	14.8 kB/s	7m 48s	3.68 MB	0.011	142.975		09/12/2006 22:51:57
[12:00] <PPAAUULL> Arwen, Radeon 9250 and I am not sure what driver but I know that Direct Rendering is enabled.
[12:00] <Spaghetti_Knife> tonyyarusso: Thanks
[12:00] <Spaghetti_Knife> !compile
[12:00] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:00] <python> you like that d1gital <3
[12:00] <borg> ah the codes, AH THE CODES
[12:00] <adaptr> python: please don't flood
[12:00] <kitche> slinky_ http://www.mondorescue.org/
[12:01] <Arwen> PPAAUULL, if you haven't installed fglrx, you have to if you want decent performance
[12:01] <Pelo> python,  yeah I head,  but  don't think he so much bought it as acqured the rights to use some of the coding,  ut is suppose to remain unaffected
[12:01] <alex_> ls
[12:01] <Pelo> more or less
[12:01] <Arwen> !ati | PPAAUULL
[12:01] <ubotu> PPAAUULL: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto