[00:00] <jrib> Fudge: are you using keys or password?
[00:00] <Fudge> keys
[00:00] <jrib> Fudge: can you connect using password?
[00:00] <SIFTU> Fudge: hey buddie.. log out and back in :)
[00:00] <JokesOnYou77> Ok, I now kind of get how X redirection works with ssh -X, is there a way that I can have the remote X-session in a Xephyr window?
[00:00] <Fudge> no just tried another user and got same thing
[00:00] <jclbrt> right now i have it set to the directions i posted above the iptables config
[00:01] <Seveas> JokesOnYou77, you'll want to look at NX I think
[00:01] <jclbrt> http://www.server-servers.com/ubuntu-router-network-gateway/
[00:01] <SIFTU> Fudge: reboot.. I'm sure it's one of those
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> jclbrt: webmin isn't to be used with ubuntu
[00:01] <Fudge> SIFTU  wont it have the same problem after a reboot?
[00:01] <Fudge> its headless
[00:01] <jclbrt> ummm why?
[00:01] <jclbrt> i have it operating fine on about 18 other boxes
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> !webmin | jclbrt
[00:01] <jrib> !who | Fudge
[00:01] <SIFTU> Fudge: I'm pretty I have had that problem before
[00:02] <JokesOnYou77> Seveas: NX? Not the Siemens CAD program I'm assuming
[00:02] <jclbrt> thats very strange never had any problems with it before
[00:02] <jclbrt> and i have 10.04 installed on all my boxes
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> jclbrt: its not to be used, you can set it easily with SSH
[00:02] <jclbrt> ok.. how can i do it with ssh?
[00:02] <mrdeb> wahtproblem
[00:02] <Fudge> SIFTU  yeah its a lts 10.0.3 box now, was jaunty
[00:03] <Fudge> oops .4
[00:04] <GridCube> changing a partition size changes its uuid?
[00:04] <mrdeb> oh 10 3 is out?
[00:04] <Seveas> JokesOnYou77, no :) nomachine.com
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> jclbrt: you need to know the interface name then set the gateway IP and tell it to use that interface
[00:04] <mrdeb> is it better to wait for 1110
[00:04] <bazhang> mrdeb, there is no 10.3
[00:04] <mrdeb> hmm
[00:04] <jrib> mrdeb, Fudge: there's no such thing as those versions
[00:04] <mrdeb> why
[00:04] <GridCube> mrdeb, 10.04.3 exist
[00:04] <bazhang> mrdeb, it does not exist
[00:04] <mrdeb> grid it does
[00:05] <mrdeb> ?
[00:05] <jclbrt> which interface? the LAN interface or the WAN interface
[00:05] <jclbrt> i know both of those
[00:05] <JokesOnYou77> Seveas: thanks for the suggestion, but the functionality of the X server and VNC are more than sufficient for me
[00:05] <jclbrt> also what config files do i need to edit for that
[00:05] <Fudge> jrib  what doesnt exist? 10.4.3?
[00:06] <jrib> Fudge: that too and 10.0.3 that you said earlier
[00:06] <Fudge> jrib  it was clearly a typo but lts rel .3 does exist, your mistaken
[00:06] <jrib> Fudge: 10.04.3 exists, yes
[00:06] <footvilla> ok guys so i got my telnet to work
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> jclbrt: whichever you want to get the web with
[00:07] <jclbrt> huh? lol...
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> jclbrt: I suggest you run:  route     on the server and on your client, and compare
[00:07] <jclbrt> ok now i am really lost
[00:07] <jclbrt> what do u mean run route?
[00:08] <jclbrt> i have a windows client connected to ETH1 (where it's getting DHCP) and ETH0 is connected to my modem
[00:08] <GridCube> ill repeat my question, does changing a partition changes its UUID?
[00:08] <jclbrt> my Windows PC is indeed able to ping the server but unable to ssh to the server, or even get on the internet
[00:08] <footvilla> need some opinons, i just finished installing postfix, im looking to to set up my email server im new to linux and looking for an easy install what do i install next?
[00:08] <jrib> GridCube: changing a partition in what way?
[00:08] <GridCube> resizing
[00:08] <jclbrt> from the server (running ubuntu) i am able to ping my PC client by IP, and also able to ping the internet
[00:09] <jclbrt> what I dont understand is what you mean by setting up the routes or even how to compare the routes between the two machines
[00:09] <jclbrt> forgive me if the questions is pretty elementary but i've never set ubuntu up at the head of a network (I.E. as the DHCP server)
[00:09] <Fudge> jclbrt  yes i think it does
[00:09] <footvilla> maybe Postfix + mySQL and Postfixadmin to manage it for that i would will need apache + php with mysql support maybe horde groupware for webmail
[00:10] <jclbrt> fudge: yes what does?
[00:10] <jrib> GridCube: I believe so
[00:11] <Fudge> jclbrt  the uuid?
[00:11] <GridCube> Fudge, i asked the uuid :P
[00:11] <RP64> guys is ubuntu the only linux distro that automatically has drivers set up when you install it , i mean, do other ones do that or for all other linux distros do you have to manually download all your drivers before installing, put them on a disk / something and then load them after u install the new distro?
[00:11] <Fudge> GridCube  sorry loL, Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
[00:12] <GridCube> so what updates fstabs if i change a partition size?
[00:12] <Fudge> GridCube  im not sure if fstab actually gets updated, i recall when moving stuff around in gparted having to change swaps uuid to a new value
[00:12] <jrib> GridCube: are you sure anything does?
[00:12] <jclbrt> fudge that has nothing to do with what i'm doing
[00:13] <qin> RP64: Ubuntu would be one distro which do not install properiary drivers by default.
[00:13] <jclbrt> u r probably talking to someone else
[00:13] <Fudge> jclbrt  yeah my bad
[00:13] <jclbrt> i'm having routing issues
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> RP64: depends for what hardware, proprietary ones like Broadcom, Nvidia and Ati cannot be legally included
[00:13] <RP64> qin: i mean like video drivers sound drivers etc.
[00:13] <GridCube> jrib, nope thats why im asking, it sounds very silly to use UUID instead of the old /dev/sd* way of doing things
[00:13] <RP64> ActionParsnip: yo so action lol i know nvidia obviously i am experiencing that hardcore atm but like
[00:13] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  basically yea what was the new plan we were gonna do ? I cant remember
[00:14] <jrib> GridCube: well it's nice if you put a new disk in or take one out, etc
[00:14] <jclbrt> so confusion... a thousand articles to do what i'm doing and ppl say tehy work... and not a single one has worked thus far
[00:14] <rhsanborn> I'm trying to install a package on maverick, I'm getting this:  ros-electric-eigen : Depends: libeigen3-dev (= 3.0.1-1+ros4~maverick) but 3.0.1-1+ros4~natty is to be installed. It looks like it doesn't want to install the package pending the upgrade. But I don't want to do the upgrade, any ideas?
[00:14] <Fudge> jclbrt  i guess its better than no article s:D
[00:14] <MonkeyDust> jclbrt: we're all unique
[00:14] <jclbrt> it'd be nice to have a readme that worked for a change tho
[00:15] <GridCube> oh, well thanks jrib i will change all my UUID names to /dev/sd* paths
[00:15] <Fudge> rhsanborn  I have found aptitude is pretty good at recommending methods to get your package working
[00:15] <JokesOnYou77> does anyone have any experience with Xephyr?
[00:15] <jclbrt> pretty sure ActionParsnip is correct but i have no clue what hes talking about
[00:15] <hopi> nick plus-
[00:15] <jclbrt> or even how to do what he is saying to do
[00:16] <MonkeyDust> jclbrt: be creative and combine some things you learned here
[00:16] <rhsanborn> Fudge: I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you mean.
[00:16] <jclbrt> well i havent learned anything yet
[00:17] <jclbrt> since my problem is still existing
[00:17] <Fudge> rhsanborn  such as aptitude install package and if there are conflicts it gives you alternatives to get it working
[00:17] <Fudge> jclbrt  what was ActionParsnip 's method?
[00:17] <jclbrt> and seemingly noone can explain how to properly configure IPtables to allow me to route properly
[00:17] <Fudge> oh jclbrt  sorry thats out of my depth, they go upside down though dont they lol
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: seems to be a routing issue
[00:17] <seidel> whats the command to see what kind of graphic card i have??
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> jclbrt: do both interfaces have a default gateway set?
[00:18] <MonkeyDust> jclbrt: then kindly learn how to configure IP tables
[00:18] <Fudge> ActionParsnip  has he tried disabling iptables to see if its related?
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> seidel: sudo lshw -C display
[00:18] <jclbrt> ActionParsnip what do you mean?
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: I don't believe so
[00:18] <jclbrt> please explain
[00:18] <jclbrt> how would i know
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> jclbrt: a network interface will get a default gateway set, telling the OS where to send packets to in order to connect to the network. This is usualy the IP of a router
[00:19] <Fudge> jclbrt  we're trying to see if the routing issue is related to iptables or something else
[00:19] <seidel> whats the command to see what kind of graphic card i have? on archlinux?
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> jclbrt: do both interfaces have a default gateway set?
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> seidel: arch isn't supported here
[00:19] <jclbrt> ActionParsnip i am trying to make my ubuntu a router
[00:19] <jclbrt> thats the issue
[00:19] <jclbrt> there is not router
[00:19] <bazhang> #archlinux seidel
[00:19] <jclbrt> it connects RIGHT to my modem
[00:19] <FloodBot1> jclbrt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:19] <Fudge> jclbrt  in that case the gateway is your modem
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> jclbrt: fine, but do both interfaces on the system have a default gateway IP defined?
[00:20] <SIFTU> jclbrt: sudo apt-get install pastebinit -y && netstat -rn | pastebinit
[00:20] <seidel> bazhang can you get in there and ask for me? i am not registred, and i registred wrong when i tried to, so i have to wait 24 hours till next time i can register a nick
[00:20] <bazhang> seidel, #freenode for help with registering
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> jclbrt: if both interfaces have a default gateway set, it won't work. "2 defaults" makes no sense
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> jclbrt: the internal interface should have no default gateway set, only IP and subnet mask
[00:21] <jclbrt> ActionParsnip, i have no clue where to find that info
[00:21] <Seveas> ActionParsnip, "default gateway" is not an interface-specific setting
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> jclbrt: well you set the IP addresses on the interfaces right?
[00:21] <Seveas> :)
[00:21] <MonkeyDust> jclbrt: you know how to manually configure a network?
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Seveas: it is
[00:21] <SIFTU> jclbrt: run that command I sent and we can see
[00:22] <Seveas> ActionParsnip, no, it is not. See the output of the 'route' command.
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> Seveas: look at the config in /etc/network/interfaces onlin
[00:22] <ntr0py> How can i set correct subpixel rendering in FF7?        it uses RGB and i need BGR... that looks very ugly.
[00:22] <Fudge> jclbrt  also an iptables channel might be better for you, think it redirects to #netfolder
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> Seveas: I only have one interface on this box, so doesn't show it
[00:22] <Seveas> ActionParsnip, you may be able to define it twice, but that doesn't mean there can actually be two
[00:22] <SIFTU> Fudge: #netfilter maybe?
[00:22] <jclbrt> ActionParsnip, my ETH0 which goes out to my modem is set to dhcp
[00:23] <jclbrt> the ETH1 has a static IP set but no gateway
[00:23] <Fudge> SIFTU  loL oh yes i just heard the name didnt read it thank you
[00:23] <Seveas> ActionParsnip, http://dpaste.com/624563/ :)
[00:24] <bktrak> Anyone know how to downgrade to kernel 2.6.32-34?
[00:24] <bktrak> in 11.04 ubuntu
[00:24] <jclbrt> the gateway for my clients IS the ubuntu machine
[00:24] <MonkeyDust> jclbrt: type cat /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit and paste it here so we can see
[00:24] <seidel> why i cant install nvidia drivers? i get error after writing ''pacman -S nvidia nvidia-utils''     > :: nvidia-utils and libgl are in conflict. Remove libgl? [y/N] y error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
[00:24] <Seveas> ActionParsnip, the problem with /etc/network/interfaces is that it tries to do too many things: set up ip addresses, configure routing, set up interfaces...
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> bktrak: If you can find the debs, you can install the kernel. I don't adives it though
[00:24] <bazhang> seidel, this is not arch support
[00:24] <seidel> i know
[00:24] <bazhang> seidel, so dont ask here
[00:24] <Seveas> seidel, then go away.
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> Seveas: i love the file, means I can ditch network manager :)
[00:25] <jclbrt> !pastebin
[00:25] <Seveas> ActionParsnip, hehe :)
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> Seveas: wired link only here
[00:25] <Seveas> wifi + openvpn here
[00:25] <Seveas> n-m is really useful for me
[00:25] <Jester> I need some insight on how library version numbers work on Ubuntu.  For instance, I have the package "libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio 1.2.14-6.1ubuntu3".  Clearly, it means libsdl 1.2.14 is installed.  However, the library file it contains is "/usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.3".  Where does the 0.11.3 come from ?
[00:26] <jclbrt> ok pasted http://paste.ubuntu.com/700167/
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> Seveas: on this box not so much, on my lappy I use wicd, gotta love curses UI
[00:26] <jclbrt> Thats what my interface configuration is
[00:26] <jclbrt> which should be right....
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> Jester: probably a symlink
[00:27] <MonkeyDust> jclbrt: i see no gateway set
[00:27] <jclbrt> monkeydust the machine is the gateway
[00:27] <jclbrt> it's a router
[00:27] <Fudge> jclbrt  you can use pastebinit like /exec cat filename | pastebinit to get the link directly in many irc clients
[00:27] <SIFTU> MonkeyDust: getting it from dhcp probably
[00:27] <Seveas> MonkeyDust, eth0 dhcp, dhcp will set the gateway
[00:27] <SIFTU> jclbrt: have you pasted your routing table yet?
[00:27] <jclbrt> i have no clue where to find my routing table
[00:28] <Seveas> jclbrt, the route command
[00:28] <SIFTU> jclbrt: I sent you the command
[00:28] <SIFTU> jclbrt: sudo apt-get install pastebinit -y && netstat -rn | pastebinit
[00:28] <Jester> ActionParsnip: "/usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 -> libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.3".  "/usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.3: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped"
[00:28] <SIFTU> jclbrt: sudo apt-get install pastebinit -y && netstat -rn | pastebinit
[00:28] <jclbrt> srry lots talking to me
[00:28] <MonkeyDust> i see static and dhcp
[00:28] <jclbrt> monkeydust that is correct
[00:28] <EnigmaticCoder> Can anyone recommend a book on linux programming tools, programs such as gdb, gprof, and valgrind? A book covering all three (or some) is prefereable.
[00:28] <jclbrt> the static interface is where the DHCP server runs on
[00:28] <jclbrt> that needs no gateway
[00:28] <seidel> why i cant install nvidia drivers? i get error after writing ''pacman -S nvidia nvidia-utils''     > :: nvidia-utils and libgl are in conflict. Remove libgl? [y/N] y error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
[00:29] <Fudge> seidel  lshw whill list hardware so you can determine the video card, but beyond that you will need to get into #archlinux
[00:29] <saulo> Hello, I have a problem with ubuntu, I'm receiving the error "unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused".... There are the pid file and the socket file at /var/run/dbus, but cat system_bus_socket file returns "device or non-existent address"
[00:30] <Fudge> seidel  but it doesnt look as if its restricted to registered nicks
[00:30] <SIFTU> jclbrt: still waiting for your routing table
[00:30] <whoz> Hi, there. I have a problem. I set up 2virtual machines. the first one has damn small linux running which i just use as a firewall to make sure that the second one which is using ubuntu(v 11.04) does not accidentally connect to the internet except trough tor. so its basically a gatekeeper. The second vm which runs ubuntu(i use it for browsing, chatting etc) is configured so, that i can only access the internet via Tor. Now here is the Pro
[00:30] <whoz> ils and i get a connection timeout message(see here:http://imageshack.us/f/707/wontwork.jpg/). If it helps i can post my ifconfig/tunnels.
[00:30] <jclbrt> SIFTU: http://pastebin.com/Y0XaevfE
[00:30] <Seveas> Fudge, please ignore seidel. He's been trolling for a while now.
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Jester: cool
[00:30] <jclbrt> right now the computer is plugged into my wireless router temporarily
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> Jester: the file is the same, you are just using a link to humour apps expecting the specific filename
[00:31] <jclbrt> so it's ETH0 ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:31] <SIFTU> jclbrt: ok it looks fine
[00:31] <seidel> Fudge i am not trolling, i fucked up the registration by typing the wrong email, so i have to wait for 24 hours now to register an new nick
[00:32] <bazhang> seidel, #freenode and stop cursing and asking for arch support here
[00:32] <starpwnage> Hey, when i boot ubuntu desktop, i get a white screen with weird black text. It has alot of the following: `~():;:):(
[00:32] <starpwnage> anyone know whats going on?
[00:32] <Jester> ActionParsnip: I have no clue what you are talking about.  However I think I might have found a webpage with useful information
[00:33] <MonkeyDust> seidel: type /nick seidel1 and use that in #arch
[00:34] <JokesOnYou77> does anyone have any experience with Xephyr? I'd like to install Xephyr in /home on a system I don't have admin privileges on
[00:34] <thrilway> Can anyone help me pinpoint an issue I'm having with firefox's GUI?
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> Jester: some apps expect specific filename like /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 and if you don't have the file the app complains, so what you do is make a link to a different file so that the filename does exist. The file is essentially a COPY of the file it is linked to but costs zero extra storage, its only a link
[00:35] <Seveas> !anyone | thrilway
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> Jester: so if some app was looking for /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.15  and you don't have it but /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0   des what is required, you can make another link and the app will run
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> *does
[00:37] <Jester> ActionParsnip: I know all of that.  What I was asking does not even remotely pertain to that which you are explaining.  However this page here gave me the answer.  the version is divided into SONAME and ABI version (given by upstream). readelf is your friend.
[00:38] <thrilway> Firefox's GUI is messed up to the point of making it unusable. It's probably been this way for me since around v5.0.
[00:39] <MonkeyDust> thrilway: try Chromium in stead of FF
[00:39] <Seveas> thrilway, or throw away your ~/.mozilla/firefox folder to start with a clean slate
[00:40] <JokesOnYou77> When I run "apt-get source xserver-xephyr" I get the entire xorg server.  what do I configure/compile to get just Xephyr??
[00:41] <Philip_> Hi, has anyone been able to get google video chat in Firefox while apparmor for Firefox is enable?
[00:43] <thrilway> Seveas: that did it. But I don't understand, I've purged and reinstalled firefox several times. isn't that supposed to delete ~/.mozilla/firefox?
[00:44] <Seveas> thrilway, no, purging doesn't tocuh anything in peoples home directory
[00:45] <thrilway> Seveas: oh, that makes sense. Thanks.
[00:46] <prodigel> hi all. Just got a brand new acer aspire 5750, installed ubuntu on it, but I encountered problems with the wireless card. thought an upgrade will help, now I have 11.10, network card is still losing packets. lspci says it's a atheros AR2987 card using ath9k. Are there any known issues regarding it? Thanks
[00:51] <MonkeyDust> prodigel: ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:53] <cyx_> Hi, there. I have a problem. I set up 2virtual machines. the first one has damn small linux running which i just use as a firewall to make sure that the second one which is using ubuntu(v 11.04) does not accidentally connect to the internet except trough tor. so its basically a gatekeeper. The second vm which runs ubuntu(i use it for browsing, chatting etc) is configured so, that i can only access the internet via Tor. Now here is the Pro
[00:53] <cyx_> ls and i get a connection timeout message(see here:http://imageshack.us/f/707/wontwork.jpg/).  Behave.
[01:00] <MonkeyDust> daniel__: find a "bash tutorial" or so, there are plenty
[01:00] <Seveas> daniel__, http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ will do
[01:00] <cyx_> So, no one can help?
[01:00] <daniel__> what do you need cyx ?
[01:00] <gebbione> is there any tool i can use in ubuntu to stress test my graphic card? I suspect its chip is causing problems to the system as it is very unstable and i want to check for screen tearing and graphical artifacts. Anything like 3DMARK06?
[01:01] <Seveas> cyx_, not unless we know the question...
[01:01] <cyx_> the problem is that i get connection timeout all the time
[01:01] <cyx_> question would be: how to fix it
[01:01] <catcher> cyx_, have you done a traceroute to see where the packets are dropping?
[01:02] <cyx_> how can i do it?
[01:02] <Seveas> with traceroute :)
[01:02] <catcher> ^
[01:02] <MonkeyDust> or mtr
[01:03] <qin> gebbione: glxgears
[01:03] <daniel__> window 1
[01:04] <gebbione> qin thanks i ll try now
[01:05] <bktrak> Hiiii
[01:08] <hexacode> can i use wilcards in my hosts file? such as  <IP_ADDRESS> *facebook*
[01:09] <bktrak> can i use wilcards in my hosts fille? such as  <IP_ADDRESS> *facebook*
[01:10] <ghostx64> hey seveas - great link
[01:10] <bktrak> hey seveas - great link
[01:10] <bktrak> faggt
[01:10] <hexacode> bktrak ?
[01:11] <ghostx64> he had to go - i guess he had a visitor
[01:11] <gebbione> grrr nothing opens anymore in my ubuntu
[01:11] <gebbione> :/
[01:11] <gebbione> why
[01:11] <ghostx64> have you tried hooking up a smotherbox?
[01:11] <gebbione> i keep clicking on the left toolbars and icons on desktop but nothing comes up
[01:11] <ghostx64> u was having problems with ubuntu until i hooked one up
[01:12] <gebbione> ghostx64:  was your question for me?
[01:12] <ghostx64> no question
[01:13] <ghostx64> just an answer
[01:13] <bazhang> ghostx64, stop it now
[01:14] <ghostx64> okey dokey
[01:17] <StepNjump> Why is it so hard to get evolution to get up and running under win?
[01:17] <bazhang> StepNjump, windows?
[01:18] <StepNjump> bazhang yes... I use it in Linux but when i'm FORCED to work with Windozed, I would like to have it
[01:18] <bazhang> ##windows StepNjump
[01:18] <StepNjump> 10-4 tnx
[01:19] <starpwnage> http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z200/benllben/P1110515.jpg - whats wrong with my ubuntu? :(
[01:20] <ex0> evolution work with hotmail accounts?? // windows live mail
[01:20] <efpc2003> question... works in ubuntu... amd apu a8-3850 with ati video (gpu+cpu)
[01:20] <xangua> ex0: yes, google hotmail pop3
[01:25] <catcher> starpwnage, Looks like it's using the wrong display driver for your video card..
[01:25] <starpwnage> catcher, how would i fix that? I cant even boot into ubuntu to change anything
[01:27] <catcher> starpwnage, Is it a fresh install?
[01:27] <starpwnage> cather, my first instal done that, then i done it a second time and it worked for 2 days, now its doing that
[01:32] <kolten> Hello?
[01:33] <starpwnage> catcher, my first instal done that, then i done it a second time and it worked for 2 days, now its doing that
[01:33] <aeon-ltd> kolten: yes?
[01:33] <ex0> i cant get evolution to connect to windows live mail..
[01:34] <ex0> using the ports i saw on this page said port 995 for pop3.live.com
[01:34] <ex0> and port 25 for smtp.live.com
[01:34] <ex0> i cant get connected for some reason anyone have ideas?
[01:34] <kolten> I am looking to use my Xbox 360 on my laptop connected to the laptop with an Ethernet cable so it can use its wireless capabilities. Can anyone help me with this?
[01:34] <andy> hi what are the good messengers for yahoo and msn that have webcam support
[01:36] <xangua> andy http://gyachi.sourceforge.net/ has support for webcam
[01:36] <xangua> or better use jabber or skype ;)
[01:38] <kaushik_> is there any deb which can take images using web cam
[01:38] <kaushik_> ?
[01:38] <jrib> kaushik_: cheese?
[01:38] <tensorpudding> kaushik_, check out cheese
[01:39] <kaushik_> yeah thanks
[01:39] <tensorpudding> kaushik_, it's in the software center
[01:39] <qin> kaushik_: mplayer, vlc ?
[01:39] <kaushik_> i forgot that name
[01:39] <kaushik_> :)
[01:42] <footvilla> does any 1 do freelance work?
[01:42] <bazhang> !ot | footvilla
[01:42] <soreau> ! anyone | footvilla
[01:51] <andy> how do u install gyachi on ubuntu 11.04
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> andy: there may be a ppa
[01:52] <saulo> My system is booting wthout network config. At start, I see the message "Waiting for network configuration..." and I wait ore 60 seconts with the system trying, resulting on "booting without network". Somebody an help me with this?
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> andy: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gyachi-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty-using-ppa.html
[01:52] <glaucon> hey
[01:53] <Apple5> hai guis
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> hi Apple5
[01:54] <Apple5> can any1 has use archive manager
[01:54] <andy> thank you soo much for that
[01:55] <zeroseven0183> Hi Apple5, which Archive Manager? The default one?
[01:55] <Apple5> oh god theres more than one :( yea the default one i has download a program
[01:55] <Apple5> and it makes me folders and no install button!
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> Apple5: what are you extracting?
[01:56] <Apple5> i was downloading python
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> Apple5: python is in a default install
[01:56] <Apple5> oh i was also downloading tor
[01:56] <RoDiMuS-X> Anyone know how to get the Gnome-Shell version from bash shell?
[01:56] <zeroseven0183> You can run Python by default
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> !tor
[01:57] <qin> RoDiMuS-X: hm?
[01:57] <josh99> i want to run win inside on my laptop with wmware. do i need the vmware player?
[01:57] <qin> RoDiMuS-X: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> !vmware
[01:58] <RoDiMuS-X> i got it gnome-shell --version
[01:58] <g0rs> josh99: there is an open vm from oracle or sun
[01:58] <RoDiMuS-X> I wasn't thinking
[01:58] <RoDiMuS-X> Thanks much
[01:58] <cyx_> oracle vm virtual box manager
[01:58] <g0rs> try virtual box
[01:58] <josh99> g0rs: i know but i have a vmware-only windows
[01:59] <qin> RoDiMuS-X: Oh, sorry, didnt look properly. Coffee needed.
[01:59] <g0rs> virtualbox is platform independent
[01:59] <zeroseven0183> Apple5: so were you able to run Python now?
[01:59] <RoDiMuS-X> qim: I feel your pain believe me
[01:59] <g0rs> josh99: i ran linux on linux using virtualbox
[01:59] <Apple5> it is python idle
[01:59] <Apple5> i want to still learn thing though
[02:00] <zeroseven0183> Sure. There are a lot of free tutorials in the web
[02:00] <Apple5> which is best
[02:00] <zeroseven0183> If you're looking for Python for beginners, check out Full Circle Magazine's special Python editions
[02:01] <Apple5> i mean archive manager and terminal things'
[02:01] <zeroseven0183> Oh I see
[02:01] <qin> Apple5: /join #python
[02:01] <RP64> so guys whats this mint linux ive heard about
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> Apple5: to extract in terminal easily, install unp :)
[02:01] <RP64> is it better than ubuntu this guy told me it is
[02:01] <RoDiMuS-X> Mint is based on Ubuntu
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> RP64: its a rehashed ubuntu with a significantly smaller community
[02:01] <qin> !mint > RP64
[02:02] <zeroseven0183> Apple5: Check out the official Ubuntu documentation about using the command line https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:02] <zeroseven0183> and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommandlineHowto Apple5
[02:02] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  is it good
[02:03] <qin> RP64: Are you new to linux? You may want to use distro with vast support instead of niche.
[02:04] <Guest62330> /mode mandrak +x
[02:04] <MonthOLDpickle> Hello
[02:04] <RP64> well i used ubuntu in 2008-10  then now im trying to install ubuntu onto my new computer, but , it won't work because of nvidia drivers
[02:04] <MonthOLDpickle> I have a really old XP Pro computer that won't boot into xp and constant reboot
[02:04] <RoDiMuS-X> RP64: Mint did not really impress me much, its a bit plain
[02:05] <MonthOLDpickle> I am trying to run a livecd ubunto 11.04, but the computer may be too old its been doing the ubuntu 11.04 with dots for a good 7 minutes so far
[02:05] <Apple5> how do i run unp
[02:05] <qin> MonthOLDpickle: Then you would want to have xubuntu live CD to test it.
[02:05] <RP64> RoDiMuS-X:  yea the screenshots look plain lol
[02:05] <MonthOLDpickle> how can I get older linux to see if it boots into livecd
[02:06] <RoDiMuS-X> RP64: I am one for eye candy and simplicity so I stick with Ubuntu
[02:06] <qin> MonthOLDpickle: or Damn Small Linux or Puppy.
[02:06] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  hey i appreciate the help before do you still wanna help me out with the nvidia stuff ?
[02:06] <RoDiMuS-X> RP64: I had driver issues with I used the ATI drivers, so I switched to the generic and everything works fine
[02:06] <qin> RP64: Did you try to run live session?
[02:07] <RP64> qin: oh man you have no idea how complicated it got haha
[02:07] <RP64> qin: but yes
[02:07] <qin> And?
[02:07] <RP64> qin: well yeah live session works no problem but as soon as I login to my installed ubuntu it just goes black screen, tried all these methods like adding boot methods etc. none of them work even though they should ,
[02:07] <RP64> qin: so new idea is to somehow go on liveCD and then download the Nvidia drivers and then transfer them onto the installed ubuntu
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> RP64: http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/
[02:07] <RP64> qin: but i dont even know how to do that
[02:08] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  oh thanks ill read that
[02:08] <qin> RP64: Type of card? There was bug for it... Also what version are you using?
[02:08] <MonthOLDpickle> Did you try taking the nvidia card out and using onboard
[02:08] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  wait , action, that's talking about fixing GRub problems
[02:08] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  isnt it ??
[02:09] <RP64> MonthOLDpickle:  well thing is I want to use the nvidia since its high quality, as this is a gaming comp, but its also a desktop replacement Laptop so i cant take out the card :(
[02:09] <footvilla> can someone help me install horde4 on ubuntu 11.04 willing to make a donation
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> RP64: you can also run updates from there using the web connection in the live cd
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> RP64: read between the lines ;)
[02:10] <SIFTU> RP64: lspci|grep VGA <-- paste output please
[02:10] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  Oh i see hah
[02:10] <RP64> SIFTU:  cant im on vista atm
[02:10] <SIFTU> RP64: is this a new laptop?
[02:10] <RP64> SIFTU:  its from 2008 so not really but its not really outdated either
[02:10] <RP64> SIFTU: qosmio x300
[02:10] <SIFTU> RP64: ah ok.. pre optimus then
[02:11] <MonthOLDpickle> lol I get file not found when trying to dl dsl
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> MonthOLDpickle: what is dsl?
[02:13] <qin> MonthOLDpickle: "dl dsl"
[02:14] <MonthOLDpickle> damn small linux
[02:15] <theuser51> Hello?
[02:15] <MonthOLDpickle> hi
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> MonthOLDpickle: http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/damnsmall/current/dsl-4.4.10.iso
[02:16] <xtremoxchile> hi ubuntu is supported for pentium 3 computer?
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> xtremoxchile: sure, I'd use lubuntu or xubuntu to free up more resources
[02:17] <excelsior> sudo apt-get moo
[02:17] <xtremoxchile> ok thanks you :)
[02:17] <xtremoxchile> sudo apt-get openbox
[02:17] <bsmith093> how do i save text so that italics and bold are marked like in a plain text document, if they arent already marked up like that?
[02:18] <baktrak> Yay got ubuntu 10.04 to stablelize :0
[02:18] <baktrak> downloaded kernel 2.6.35 :)
[02:18] <baktrak> solved the firefox.bin eating my cpu problem
[02:18] <qin> bsmith093: bold and italic are formatting, and contradiction to plain.
[02:18] <baktrak> :D
[02:18] <mrdeb> hi
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> baktrak: strange, I'd report a bug with your fix
[02:20] <baktrak> Idk what it was
[02:20] <baktrak> But i solved the beast
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> baktrak: the kernel?
[02:20] <baktrak> :D
[02:20] <baktrak> Yes
[02:20] <baktrak> It was the kernel
[02:20] <baktrak> :D
[02:20] <FloodBot1> baktrak: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:20] <baktrak> 0.01 0.01 0.01
[02:20] <baktrak> how about that useage
[02:21] <bazhang> baktrak, what?
[02:21] <MonthOLDpickle> what does it mean after trying to boot into dsl two pinguins and a blinking curosr
[02:21] <MonthOLDpickle> can't type anything
[02:21] <baktrak> Thats my CPU usage from ubuntu 10.04 right now
[02:21] <bazhang> MonthOLDpickle, ask in  a dsl support channel
[02:21] <baktrak> er not cpu load
[02:21] <baktrak> load useage..
[02:21] <qin> bsmith093: If you want you can use Ansi, or RTF: echo -e "\033[1mfoo\033[0m"
[02:22] <baktrak> but before i updated to kernel 2.6.35 on 10.04 it was high but now its really low 0.01 0.01 0.01
[02:22] <baktrak> :)
[02:22] <baktrak> with firefox open and playin music ;)
[02:23] <bsmith093> qin: what i mean is, is there a fast way , because i would like to do this to ~1mb of text
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> baktrak: could have just updated to Natty etc ;)
[02:24] <qin> bsmith093: maybe some fancy vim plugin, or kate.
[02:24] <baktrak> dude i get .40 .40 .40 load usage in natty kernel ;)
[02:24] <baktrak> why upgrade to tat when i get 0.01 0.01 0.01 ;)
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> baktrak: could report your fix as a bugfix, see what the devs reckon etc
[02:25] <baktrak> I Could Your right.. but no one would help me so why should i help them? and Its not about being greedy or selfish its about.. People helping other..
[02:25] <guest_> hiya wazzup
[02:25] <baktrak> Sharings Carin right? ;)
[02:26] <guest_> meh
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> baktrak: someone has to make the first move...
[02:26] <baktrak> Blah your right
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> and eating is cheating ;)
[02:26] <qin> bsmith093: but plain text means no formatting, so either you will use, html, rtf, or use escape codes if text would be processed by script before showing.
[02:26] <baktrak> Haha
[02:27] <baktrak> Sad thing about this whole thing.. is that ive only used Ubuntu for like 2 weeks? and no ones figured this out till now?
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> baktrak: never had the issue, mind yo I dont use firefox :D
[02:28] <baktrak> ActionParsnip, doesnt matter bro.. before i switched the kernels i used EVERY one i could thing of.. an they still were eatting my CPU
[02:28] <baktrak> Thats shows You what Action?
[02:28] <baktrak> Thats show me.. thats it is a Nvidia Driver Bug
[02:28] <Apple5> baktrak what happened
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> baktrak: kernel bug possibly
[02:29] <baktrak> Oh nothing im on ubuntu 10.04.. and for kernel 2.6.32-34 was Very Very Bad
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> baktrak: glad you got the gold though :)
[02:29] <baktrak> Firefox.bin was eatting my cpu including every other browser.. so i upgraded to 35.. and it solved the prob
[02:29] <MonkeyDust> baktrak: FF is idd a very 'heavy' application
[02:29] <baktrak> Monkey im playing music right now my load is 0.01 0.01 0.01
[02:30] <baktrak> for 10 mines
[02:30] <baktrak> Thats = Way better then Natty + every other one for me
[02:30] <baktrak> AND on a 64 bit System
[02:30] <mrdeb> bak on what system os
[02:30] <MonkeyDust> baktrak: well, now it's solved, you found it
[02:30] <MonthOLDpickle> no dice in #dsl
[02:31] <baktrak> Naw i didnt find nothing.. I bet you there have been people out there that havent noticed it..
[02:31] <baktrak> But Like Action said.. I shall report the prob.. like no one has :\
[02:31] <baktrak> Thats prolly how  they didnt know about it
[02:32] <mrdeb> what problem
[02:32] <baktrak> Lol
[02:32] <bazhang> !ot | baktrak
[02:32] <bazhang> baktrak, thats enough
[02:32] <MonkeyDust> baktrak: not noticing a problem = not having having a problem
[02:32] <baktrak> Baz what are you talkin about?
[02:32] <baktrak> Im talking about ubuntu
[02:32] <bazhang> baktrak, this is support only. not chit chat
[02:33] <baktrak> Lol.. Im not chit chatting im chatting about a PROBLEM
[02:33] <baktrak> And what are you doing right now?.. Chit-Chatting
[02:33] <MonkeyDust> baktrak: giving an opinion is not support
[02:34] <baktrak> MonkeyDust,  I wasnt giving my Opinion.. I was Telling Action.. Why The Kernel in ubuntu 10.04 was Bad.. therefore that = a Problem.. so therefore he was Telling me i should report the problem.
[02:34] <bazhang> baktrak, then report the bug. no need to spend 20 minutes chatting about it.
[02:35] <baktrak> Now thers 1446 users in this room?.. do u see any problems?
[02:35] <hejie> 54152115
[02:36] <baktrak> Hejie Ask Bazhang your problems
[02:36] <baktrak> He said he can solve them all.
[02:36] <bazhang> hejie, english please
[02:36] <baktrak> ROFL
[02:36] <baktrak> k
[02:36] <baktrak> Make a script to autokick
[02:36] <baktrak> :)
[02:37] <baktrak> So bazhang  why are u so agenst people not speaking english?.. You have something agenst those people?
[02:37] <baktrak> Its America.. "Free Speach"
[02:37] <MonkeyDust> baktrak: please type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:37] <bazhang> baktrak, this is an english channel. lets stop the nonsense.
[02:37] <jrib> baktrak: this channel is for ubuntu support only.  Please stay on-topic
[02:37] <stevecam> in gnome, i try to tell my screensaver to change, the settings appear to of c hanged but whenever a new screensaver appears its the previously selected screensaver
[02:38] <baktrak> Kk.. I have a Problem.. How do u run the "sudo" cmd in terminal?
[02:38] <baktrak> :)
[02:39] <stevecam> that was kinda funny
[02:39] <IdleOne> !freespeech > baktrak
[02:39] <DirtyD> I'm surprised to find #ubuntu as the most populated channel on freenode.
[02:40] <stevecam> DirtyD, I'm not
[02:40] <DirtyD> Why is Ubuntu so popular?
[02:41] <mrdeb> backtrak do you like the new ubuntu
[02:41] <aeon-ltd> DirtyD: gateway distro :)
[02:41] <stevecam> because it works on some of the similar princilples windows does, it is simple, and it works
[02:41] <IdleOne> !ot | DirtyD mrdeb
[02:41] <stevecam> for basic things anyway
[02:42] <DirtyD> ubottu: freenode for commercial purposes?
[02:44] <stevecam> i should get a shirt saying that, "I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent"
[02:44] <Apple5> ubottu you are a bot?
[02:44] <tonsofpcs> what command do I need to run to force a fsck on reboot?
[02:45] <Apple5> ubottu how do you bot if not talk person
[02:46] <JokesOnYou77> Can anyone help me with Chatzilla?  I can figure out how to have it make the "beep" when I get a message
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> Apple5: she responds to inputs and gives a predetermined response...a bot
[02:48] <DirtyD> I won't stay long, I was just doing an audit of the channel population on freenode, and noticed that #ubuntu was pegged at #1. I wanted to see why. I see that the Ubuntu site lists "our IRC channel" on freenode as an avenue for support. It's also nice to see that Conical has made some monetary donations to freenode.. clap clap.
[02:48] <Apple5> is amarok able to put music on ipid?
[02:49] <Apple5> ipod*
[02:52] <Loshki> tonsofpcs: something like: sudo touch /forcefsck followed by a reboot....
[02:52] <qin> DirtyD: *Canonical
[02:52] <Soul_Sample> I know it's still beta, but is there a way to disable the screensaver in 11.10? i turned off every imaginable option related to displays and it still goes black after 15minutes
[02:53] <urlin2u> Soul_Sample, the oneiric channel is #ubuntu+1
[02:53] <qin> Soul_Sample: Still: /j #ubuntu+1
[02:53] <bazhang> Soul_Sample, #ubuntu+1 please
[02:53] <Soul_Sample> sorry, thanks
[02:55] <Apple5> hey guys can amarok music on ipod?\
[02:57] <xangua> Apple5: i supose
[02:57] <Apple5> do i use ipod recharger to use on amarok
[02:57] <xangua> apple does the imposible to avoid ther product being used for 3rd parties
[02:57] <Apple5> whats the imposible mean
[02:58] <gbear14275> hey guys I'm having a problem copying files to a thumbdrive.  They seem to stop at 99%
[02:59] <Apple5> is the last 1% important
[02:59] <ex0> hey guys, i have this error here in my dmesg it just keeps repeating : "[ 4428.540077] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 5
[02:59] <gbear14275> Apple5, yeah that's money shot
[03:00] <Apple5> lolololol
[03:00] <maxximus> hello, just made a switch to ubuntu but using 10.04 =)
[03:00] <mikodo> @clahey You can look for newer packages for commonly used apps online at sites like SourceForge.net; Getdeb applications, or go to Launchpad and find the dev's newest tarball; and compile it yourself, as long as the dependencies can be met with your distro's release.
[03:00] <gbear14275> Apple5, ;)  so... looks like they are completing... just taking about 10x as long to get to 100%
[03:00] <gbear14275> tried both copying in file browser and the cp command... behavior the same
[03:00] <ex0> does anyone know about this error here:er packages for commonly used apps online at sites  like SourceForge.net; Getdeb applications, or go to Launchpad and find the  dev's newest tarball; and compile it yourself, as long as the its just repeating constantly in dmesg please help.
[03:01] <ex0> oops
[03:01] <ex0> not that
[03:01] <qin> gbear14275: df -h
[03:02] <maxximus> installed TimeTrex on my ubuntu 10.04. works well. but when i restart, TimeTrex dont work anymore, also i need to be logged in? can anyone offer advise?
[03:02] <Guest14078> Hey guys, I'm having issues trying to get Virtualbox up and running, can anyone help?
[03:03] <qin> Guest14078: How have you installed vbox?
[03:04] <Apple5> my terminal asks for my password but i cant type?
[03:04] <maxximus> can apache be set to auto run as service so i dont have to be logged in?
[03:04] <Guest14078> I have.  The problem comes in after I set up the new virtual machine in Vbox, and when I go to run it.
[03:05] <qin> Apple5: Password to not give feedback.
[03:05] <Guest14078> Not sure what I need to do, or how to do what I need to do when it prompts me to "Choose a virtual cd disk file"
[03:06] <qin> Guest14078: Then #vbox will be better place to ask. You have to create virtal disk to install system there.
[03:06] <Guest14078> I did that much.  Thanks for the tip.  I didn't realize there was a #vbox
[03:06] <Guest14078> Thanks.
[03:07] <JokesOnYou77> How can I see if a package is installed and/or what version without admin privileges?
[03:07] <qin> JokesOnYou77: dpkg -l package_name
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> JokesOnYou77: apt-cache policy packagename
[03:10] <maxximus> using 10.04, can i share a folder to be accessed by windows users? but not to ubuntu users?
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> maxximus: use samba
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> maxximus: you can set ownerships etc then the user will be challenged for credentials
[03:12] <das7> any ubuntu-xampp-joomla user ?
[03:12] <bazhang> !xampp | das7
[03:12] <l337ingDisorder> Oi, I'm trying to download the installer and I keep getting this error: "/tmp/Q84Rh1TP.iso.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read. Try again later, or contact the server administrator"
[03:12] <das7> i don't need xampp support
[03:13] <JokesOnYou77> Thank you. Is there also a way to list all of the dependencies (not already installed) for a given package that I'd like to install?
[03:13] <bazhang> das7, then why ask about it
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> l337ingDisorder: installer for what?
[03:13] <maxximus> Actionparsnip: do i need to create a user in my ubuntu for a windows user?
[03:13] <das7> just to know
[03:13] <l337ingDisorder> I get the same results whether I click the "Download" button on the Download Ubuntu page, or whether I click the "alternative downloads" and then click the link for http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> maxximus: you use a local windows user to authenticate as
[03:13] <l337ingDisorder> ActionParsnip: Installer for Ubuntu 11.04 32b
[03:14] <l337ingDisorder> ActionParsnip: ie, it seems the download links on the Ubu website are busted.
[03:14] <das7> well...how can i install lamp server on my ubuntu 10.10 ????
[03:14] <bazhang> !lamp | das7
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> l337ingDisorder: then right click the file and select save as, or use torrents
[03:14] <l337ingDisorder> ActionParsnip: I can't get the torrent either
[03:15] <l337ingDisorder> http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[03:15] <l337ingDisorder> doesn't work.. same error
[03:15] <bazhang> l337ingDisorder, works great here
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> l337ingDisorder: try a different site
[03:16] <l337ingDisorder> ActionParsnip: any recommendations? I would tend to want to get it from the source...
[03:16] <l337ingDisorder> ActionParsnip: and really, why shouldn't I be able to?
[03:16] <bazhang> l337ingDisorder, both links are fine
[03:17] <l337ingDisorder> not for me :(
[03:17] <l337ingDisorder> i wonder why
[03:17] <maxximus_> ActionParsniop: my bad but where can i set "use a local windows user to authenticate..."
[03:17] <l337ingDisorder> wtf
[03:17] <Apple5> ahh the irony, how much I ahte the company apple
[03:18] <l337ingDisorder> ok the dl works in chrome
[03:18] <l337ingDisorder> but not in ff
[03:18] <l337ingDisorder> beeeezarro
[03:18] <l337ingDisorder> Apple5: +1
[03:19] <l337ingDisorder> well anyway, got the DL going... so i guess nothin's wrong with the website, just my FF
[03:19] <Apple5> for my ipod i go to artists and it says no music even though i got many songs so have to search through entire database to find song i like
[03:19] <l337ingDisorder> thanks anyway! :)
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> l337ingDisorder: doesn't matter the source, as long as the MD5 sum matches, the source is moot
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> maxximus_: it should ask you for authorisation
[03:22] <bsmith093> is there anything that will convert rich text to tagged text? meaning _bold_ *italic* etc?\
[03:22] <tr3nton> is there a ways to re-index the unity search thingo? for some reason when I search it's only returning files i.e. no apps
[03:25] <maxximus> ActionParsniop: got discon, my bad but where can i set "use a local windows user to authenticate..."
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> maxximus: its automatic, set the security in the folder properties and the share properties
[03:26] <maxximus> ActionParsnip: just making it clear, its ubuntu 10.04 and a bunch of xp pro sp2 machines =)
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> maxximus: ok
[03:27] <Apple5> can i make video games for ubuntu so more people will use it?
[03:27] <maxximus> ActionParsnip: so the advice u gave is applicable to my setting?
[03:28] <stevecam>  does anybody experience any growing pains with unity?
[03:28] <|Slacker|> nope
[03:28] <|Slacker|> I like unity a lot
[03:28] <enchilado> stevecam: depends what you mean by "growing pains"
[03:28] <urlin2u> Apple5, you can make third parties for sure getting in the repos is another matter and getting new users is a whole other matter.
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> maxximus: yes
[03:28] <graft> hey, anyone know what happened to tab-completion? it can't tab-complete into directories any more
[03:29] <urlin2u> graft, in oneiric?
[03:29] <stevecam> I get strange things happening on mine like windows not always maximising properly and unclickable tray icons
[03:29] <graft> urlin2u: well, yes :)
[03:29] <|Slacker|> 0.o mine's working great
[03:29] <augusto> Guys, please help me
[03:29] <|Slacker|> stevecam: 11.04?
[03:29] <stevecam> graft, i noticed that too, things don't always format themselves properly with escape characters
[03:30] <stevecam> |Slacker|, yes
[03:30] <augusto> I am using 11.10 , gnome 3 shell and adwaita gtk theme.. everytime I open a file, its apps uses a dark gtk theme. how can I solve it?
[03:30] <maxximus> ActionParsnip: does sharing folders in ubuntu require me to be logged in before anyone can acces my shared folders?
[03:31] <|Slacker|> augusto: go to ubuntu+1 then
[03:31] <graft> stevecam: any idea what's behind this? and how i can undo it?
[03:31] <|Slacker|> they can helṕ ya there
[03:31] <rodd> I have a silly question for good users. I'm runing a web server locally and have set all my web files to user USR:www-data - However whenever I upload a file, its ownership is set to www-data:www-data - How can I set to USR:www-data or do something else that doesn't keep me from reading files from my browser?
[03:31] <enchilado> graft: in a terminal?
[03:31] <rodd> I gotta run chown -R USR:www-data folder/ everytime
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> maxximus: samba is a service, so the sharing wil be done without a user logged in as far as I am aware
[03:32] <graft> enchilado: yeah
[03:32] <maxximus> ActionParsnip: samba is automatic right? or do i have to activate it ?
[03:32] <enchilado> graft: you're using the right capitalisation, I presume? :P
[03:32] <RudyValencia> yes, daemons don't require a user be logged in
[03:32] <qin> rodd: Upload via browser, ssh, ftp?
[03:32] <RudyValencia> they run as either root or as a dedicated user
[03:32] <graft> enchilado: yes, it's not that tab completion isn't working, it's that it is completing things incorrectly
[03:33] <enchilado> Ah.
[03:33] <rodd> browser
[03:33] <enchilado> In what way? o_O
[03:33] <rodd> or lets say the app generates a new file
[03:33] <rodd> a new.php
[03:33] <graft> enchilado: for example, if i create a file called "File test.txt" and then do ls Fi<TAB>, it will complete to "ls File test.txt", and not "ls File\ test.txt", which results in an error
[03:34] <graft> enchilado: needless to say, that is completely fubar
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> maxximus: it will start at boot each time
[03:34] <Apple5> is bash important to learn?
[03:34] <enchilado> graft: Hrm, that is weird. No idea how to help you, but good luck :S
[03:34] <graft> Apple5: define 'important'
[03:34] <Apple5> i need it to use things
[03:35] <n2i> Hello!
[03:35] <graft> Apple5: you should learn some scripting language, probably, but if you know python or ruby (which are more powerful) you don't need to know bash
[03:35] <Apple5> ok than screw bash!
[03:35] <Apple5> lol
[03:35] <n2i> I'm trying to compile the kernel which was downloaded from launchpad but have got some error, someone can help?
[03:36] <n2i> arch/x86/kernel/entry_32.S:1422: Error: .size expression for apf_page_fault does not evaluate to a constant
[03:36] <n2i> one of those error messenge is above
[03:37] <n2i> Alo!
[03:38] <qin> rodd: either php:chwon or add user to group www-data and use higher permission for group, http://php.net/manual/en/function.chown.php
[03:39] <SIFTU> Apple5: most sysadmins will use bash and goto python only if they are doing something more advanced.. saying that 80% of sysadmin scripts bash can handle with ease
[03:39] <BabyGirly> Hy guys,is there any upgrade i cn get that make mi dysplay dim a little,,is so bright that blind me,,is not working with the keyboard keys combination(FN+ Up & Down)
[03:41] <maxximus> what do u guys think? my drive D: is formatted in FAT but when i restart, i have to manually mount drive D: is this normal?
[03:41] <rodd> thanks qin
[03:41] <SIFTU> BabyGirly: laptop details please
[03:41] <graft> maxximus: is it listed in fstab?
[03:43] <maxximus> graft: im not in my ubuntu box now but if its not, how do i make it listed?
[03:43] <urlin2u> !fstab
[03:43] <Onryo> Was wondering if there is a backport for firefox. I am on 10.10 since there is no decent UI. My Debian box is using Gnome 2.32.x and has 6.0 as a backport
[03:43] <BabyGirly> SIFTU ;) is a gateway M-series Model SA6
[03:44] <Onryo> The whole concept of ppa seems very unsafe.
[03:44] <graft> maxximus: just take a look at /etc/fstab, it should tell you how to format a new entry
[03:45] <maxximus> graft: oh ok, but i remember performing a clean format of drive d: and was asked if wanted FAT so i chose FAT
[03:46] <Onryo> maxximus what are you trying to do?
[03:46] <Onryo> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:46] <maxximus> Onryo: just find it weird that i have to manually mount drive D: everytime i restart my ubuntu 10.04
[03:46] <urlin2u> Onryo, that's the warning on PPA's, been using various ones for about four years with no problems.
[03:47] <Onryo> maxximus drive D?
[03:47] <graft> maxximus: that should be fine, linux can handle all types of filesystems
[03:47] <maxximus> Onryo: another physical drive inside my box which is formatted in FAT
[03:47] <Onryo> maxximus, oh yeah I forgot about that windows thing. Yeah Linux reads FAT32 with no problems.
[03:48] <maxximus> Onryo: haha
[03:48] <maxximus> Onryo: yes it reads them fine, but it doesnt mount automatically? i expect that drive to be there when i restart my system
[03:49] <urlin2u> maxximus, it will be if it is in fstab.
[03:53] <csemple> hi I have a sd card that I use on computer A (ubuntu), but when I try to use it on computer B (ubuntu) I get "failed to mount" something about privalages
[03:53] <csemple> how to I make this sd card accessible to multiple machines ?
[03:54] <ex0> chmod
[03:54] <ex0> look it upski
[03:54] <ex0> :)
[03:55] <csemple> yeah I have used chmod ex0 but I don't know enough about what I am doing to prevent myself from screwing things up or doing something unnessesary
[03:56] <csemple> I am guessing chmod u+r /media/disk ?
[03:56] <csemple> sudo chmod ?
[03:56] <ex0> use the "man chmod" command
[03:56] <ex0> and u will learn a good deal
[03:56] <ex0> correct
[03:56] <ex0> man chmod to learn about it
[03:57] <csemple> ex0, I guess my question is this: I would like to understand WHY I have to use chmod
[03:57] <qin> csemple: You sure that you are sudoer on B
[03:57] <csemple> on windblows boxes (less secure I know)
[03:57] <ex0> its how you give permissions to things
[03:57] <csemple> you can plug anything into anything and you can read + write to anything
[03:58] <csemple> is this just because Linux is more secure than windows ?
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> csemple: do you safetly remove the item?
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> csemple: works 100% here
[03:58] <ex0> yes
[03:58] <dsnyders> HI all!  I am using Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.13 and I want to print out a week at a glance calendar in seven column format rather than the 5+2 box format.  Is there some sort of add-on or something for that?
[03:59] <csemple> ActionParsnip, no, I stopped doing that becaues It prevented me from re-mounting the device I safely removed
[03:59] <csemple> ie. I would have to reboot the computer for it to be able to remount the sd card
[04:00] <csemple> is it critical ActionParsnip to safely remove things ?
[04:00] <Onryo> maxximus you need to think about umask=007 and gid. The fstab will look something like this UUID=C8F8-03C6	/media/disk	vfat	auto,user,exec,rw,async 0 0
[04:00] <hiyo> c/elar
[04:00] <Apple5> hey guys how come there are for sale items in ubuntu software center
[04:00] <Onryo> maxximus I don't know what the UUID for your disk is though.
[04:00] <jammiesAREon> anyone here have any expeirence running ntop in ubuntu?
[04:01] <hiyo> Apple5: Free software can mean as in "free speech" as you are given the rights to modify and redistribute it
[04:01] <Apple5> no i mean there is software for sale it isnt free
[04:01] <jammiesAREon> i have it up and running but only monitoring one interface
[04:01] <jammiesAREon> which is my external
[04:01] <hiyo> Apple5: also the GPL doesn't prohibit from a propreitary program from running off of a open-soource kernel
[04:01] <Onryo> Apple5 FOSS is he what GNU/Linux is all about =)
[04:02] <maxximus> love this channel for all the quick advices
[04:02] <Atrika> Hi everyone
[04:02] <maxximus> anyone familiar with TimeTrex?
[04:02] <Apple5> whoever is helpful is nice here btw
[04:02] <Apple5> thank you
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> hi Atrika
[04:02] <jammiesAREon> i'd like to get ntop monitoring both my internal (LAN) traffic as well as my External (WAN) traffic
[04:02] <Onryo> maxximus I just found something on Google that will help you out. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=812884
[04:02] <jammiesAREon> the machine is serving as a dns server as well as a DHCP server
[04:02] <Apple5> if i could help i would :(
[04:03] <maxximus> Onryo: Thanks alot!
[04:03] <Onryo> maxximus seems there are a few Windows users left on this earth. Knew I would find something =D
[04:03] <dsnyders> csemple, Depending on settings, linux hold writes in cache memory until it is flushed.  Safely removing forces a flush.  Windows does similar things.  So unless you safely remove or unmount a drive, you might the drive before everything gets written to it.  You could wind up corrupting the card.
[04:04] <dsnyders> csemple, s/might the drive/might remove the drive/
[04:04] <maxximus> Onryo: well thats a sad fact haha. my small home office used to be all windows coz i have a database program written in vb used in my inventory system
[04:05] <maxximus> Onryo: now im moving to the web so im migrating to ubuntu 10.04,
[04:05] <maxximus> just that there are still some xp users left that i have not migrated so sharing is kinda painful
[04:06] <Onryo> maxximus I really liked Ubuntu until 10.10. Then they did some weirdo stuff to the UI.
[04:06] <maxximus> Onryo: can i update to 10.10 via the update manager?
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade
[04:07] <Sidewinder1> maxximus, Onryo, Unity?
[04:07] <Onryo> maxximus Have a feeling it will railroad you right into the land of rainbows and ponies.
[04:07] <Atrika> is sun jre better than openjdk if I want to host a minecraft server ?
[04:07] <RP64> hola compadres
[04:07] <maxximus> Onryo thats pretty enticing haha
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> Atrika: I'd ask in a minecraft channel
[04:08] <Sidewinder1> !es | RP64
[04:08] <Strav> Arrggggh. Where can I find those design hipsters and tell them my way of thinking?
[04:08] <RP64> Sidewinder1:  it was just a joke instead of saying hi lol
[04:08] <Sidewinder1> :D
[04:08] <Atrika> how can I switch windows in irssi
[04:08] <csemple> ex0,
[04:08] <Onryo> maxximus yeah Unity does not work well with my workstation using 3 x 24" 1920x1080 monitors.
[04:09] <Sidewinder1> RP64, It's late, here...
[04:09] <csemple> I did this to fix my problem (did NOT use chmod)
[04:09] <RP64> Sidewinder1:  how late
[04:09] <csemple> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/disk
[04:09] <csemple> (after I sudo mkdir /media/disk)
[04:09] <Sidewinder1> 12:09...
[04:09] <hansg01> prob in su
[04:09] <csemple> then I could access it
[04:09] <das7> can i install ubuntu 10.10 s/ws in 11.04 ? i have the aptonCd back up of ubuntu 10.10 s/ws.......
[04:09] <Strav> I just switched to 11.10 and well the launcher cannot be sanely used in auto-hide mode. Any else gets it?
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> Atrika: ALT+number
[04:09] <hansg01> wen i m using the pass it gave error : authenticaton failed
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> hansg01: root is disabled. use:   sudo -i    instead
[04:10] <Strav> Here's the thing:
[04:10] <|Slacker|> Strav: 11.10 questions are answered in ubuntu+1
[04:10] <Onryo> maxximus as a programmer I need Eclipse and emacs on 2 screens and my notes and browser on the 3ed screen.
[04:10] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  hey im just trying that articles thing now , just to tell you all igot out of that article was how to mount the ubuntu installation
[04:10] <Strav> On ubuntu 11.04, using unity's launcher set to auto-hidden was manageable: since most applications (browser's back button for instance) place several important elements on the left of the screen, when maximized, you could still manage to use these elements without triggering the launcher by setting the launcher's trigger region to be at the top left of the screen. Since only the dash button was in this area, there was no reason for your
[04:10] <csemple> how do I get a sd-card to just work without having to change permissions and go to the command terminal to open up
[04:10] <Strav> cursor to be there except if you'd wish to either launch dash or trigger the launcher - it made sense. Now that the current window's close, minimize and maximize buttons have been place in this area (and that for some reason, the launcher's trigger region fails to respond properly when set to this area on 11.10 ), you don't have any way of using your application without risking to trigger the launcher without wanting it to. The only
[04:10] <Strav> space left would be the bottom left corner but that would be absolutely counter-productive since most people sort their frequently accessed applications top to bottom and not the inverse.
[04:10] <csemple> ?
[04:10] <FloodBot1> Strav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:10] <office1> hello hello, How are you?
[04:10] <hansg01> Actionparnship: sudo sh is working fine
[04:10] <RP64> !de | office1
[04:10] <Sidewinder1> office1, Tired; going to bed.. :D
[04:10] <maxximus> Onryo i bet u dream alot of 1's and 0's haha
[04:11] <das7> strav, is this an essay ??? use http://www.pastebin.com
[04:11] <hansg01> Actionparsnip: sudo sh is also working fine
[04:11] <RP64> Sidewinder1:  12:09 isn't late
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> hansg01: that'll work, sudo -i   is advised but same kinda thing
[04:11] <hansg01> Actionparsnip: ok thnx
[04:11] <Sidewinder1> RP64, For you, perhaps.
[04:11] <WilGil> hey, guys I have a new one.  Hopefuly one of you can help.  I just used the startup disk creator to make a bootable usb.  Now i have installed and want to reuse the usb.  However, when I plug it in it will not mount, does not show up under lsusb.  But I can still boot from it. Can anyone explain what is going on?
[04:11] <RP64> Sidewinder1: because I only  sleep during the day time, it protects you from skin damage and doubles your nightlife
[04:12] <Strav> das7: nope it's a bug report.
[04:12] <Sidewinder1> RP64, That's a philosophy for the young.
[04:12] <RP64> Sidewinder1:  im 47.
[04:13] <Sidewinder1> 56 :D
[04:13] <urlin2u> WilGil, look at the usb with disk utility.
[04:13] <das7> strav, its ok ???
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> RP64: its 5:12am here (working a nightshift ;))
[04:13] <RP64> Sidewinder1:  it was all a joke im not 47 or sleep in the daytime
[04:13] <Onryo> maxximus most of the time I dream about quiting my job and becoming a gigolo on the French Rivera
[04:13] <Strav> well it's pasted so. People might as well read it.
[04:13] <Sidewinder1> !ot | Sidewinder1
[04:13] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  oh that's interesting wow thats like me last night except i just had insomnia
[04:13] <fvilla> how do i use pastebin?
[04:13] <fvilla> !pastebin
[04:13] <WilGil> urlin2u: thanks, tried that but no dice.  I also ran fdisk -l and it does not show up there either.
[04:13] <RP64> Sidewinder1:  I'm actually 19 so I wanted to disrupt your theory of "For the young" by saying I was 47
[04:14] <Strav> das7: but thanks for the advice, I'll use the pastebin for ubuntu+1
[04:14] <maxximus> Onryo: maybe i could join u someday haha
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> RP64: I grew out of that when I started doing 12 hour shifts
[04:14] <Apple5> any cool games on ubuntu?
[04:14] <Onryo> maxximus =)
[04:14] <urlin2u> WilGil, start the computer with it plugged in, hard to say what is happening really.
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> Apple5: urbanterror and penumbra are great native games
[04:14] <WilGil> perhaps there is a reserved bit on the USB that says "hey i am a removeable flash device" and that got flipped?
[04:15] <Apple5> is free?
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> Apple5: penumbra isn't free but the demo is great
[04:15] <das7> strav, u r welcome. i need a help
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> Apple5: urbanterror is free and s like counterstrike
[04:15] <maxximus> Onryo: do u know how i can check if apache is installed as a service?
[04:15] <Onryo> Apple5 you have a good graphics card? Try Alien Arena
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> Apple5: its available on the playdeb ppa
[04:15] <WilGil> urlin2u: tried that as well no dice unless i go to the boot select popup and select boot from usb device.
[04:15] <office1> sweet, in about an hour, I fixed all my wireless problems on 3 comps.
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> Apple5: warzone2100 is free and great if you like command and conquer
[04:16] <office1> how do I make the fix on this page permanent? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1695302.html
[04:16] <Onryo> maxximus cd /var/www  or just see if you can restart it  sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[04:16] <kaje> Anyone have any advice as to where I can go to get help getting a USB 4G CDMA Modem working?
[04:16] <csemple> ex0, I tried this (sudo mkdir /media/disk, sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/disk, then sudo chmod u+r /media/disk), and I still have the same problem
[04:16] <urlin2u> WilGil, in your sistuation I would try it in another OS or use a bootable gparted disc or any one that will read the partition format, and format it to what you want..
[04:17] <soreau> office1: Can you say what you've done, exactly?
[04:17] <csemple> if I remove and re-plug-in my sd-card a window appears saying "you do not have the permissions to mount this device"
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> office1: do you mean: sudo modprobe iwlagn 11n_disable=0 swcrypto=1
[04:17] <office1> sudo rmmod -f iwlagn
[04:17] <das7> another site like pastebin.com http://drupalbin.com
[04:17] <office1> sudo modprobe iwlagn 11n_disable=0 swcrypto=1
[04:17] <csemple> even though I did the sudo chmod u+r /media/disk after manually mounting (sudo) /dev/sdb1
[04:17] <maxximus> Onryo: thanks, coz i installed an attendance system and is working fine but once i reboot, it stops working.
[04:17] <csemple> after mounting it as root I can access the files
[04:17] <soreau> ! who | office1
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> office1: run:  gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/iwlagn.conf
[04:18] <office1> ok
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> office1: add: options iwlagn 11n_disable=0 swcrypto=1
[04:18] <csemple> but how to I allow this sd-card (((brand new))) to be able to just plug into my computer and mount automatically (like it tries to do) ????
[04:18] <soreau> office1: So you want to have iwlagn load with those options.. sec
[04:18] <csemple> sudo chmod /media/disk didn't do anything (u+r)
[04:18] <qin> csemple: Who is owner of files? You have differet usernames in A and B?
[04:19] <csemple> qin, its hard to tell because thunar does not give me any "properties" on devices
[04:19] <csemple> gigolo doesnt show anything exists
[04:19] <csemple> not sure where to get that information from
[04:19] <qin> csemple: ls -l /media/disk
[04:19] <qin> csemple: Or with sudo if needed
[04:20] <soreau> office1: Create a file /etc/modprobe.d/iwlagn.conf and put inside: options iwlagn 11n_disable=0 swcrypto=1
[04:20] <office1> ActionParsnip: so I'm creating that file, then putting that line in it.
[04:20] <soreau> office1: Reboot and test.
[04:20] <WilGil> urlin2u, thanks, but i don't have any other os's running right now.  I run windoze through virtual machines (and i doubt windoze will read it either).  maybe if i boot it in a machine running knoppix.
[04:20] <csemple> qin, drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 32768 2011-09-25 15:23 DCIM
[04:20] <office1> sounds great, thanks soreau and action.
[04:20] <soreau> ActionParsnip: Gah, you beat me ;)
[04:20] <Onryo> maxximus, if you don't have this dir then you don't have apache   cd /etc/apache2
[04:20] <csemple> qin, that was the output ^
[04:20] <csemple> qin, drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 32768 2011-09-25 15:23 DCIM
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> office1: yes, when the module is loaded the option will be applied
[04:20] <office1> Double kudos to Action, he's always super helpful.
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> soreau: sorry ;)
[04:21] <qin> csemple: ls -l /media/disk/DCIM is it root too?
[04:21] <soreau> office1: Basically it's just loading the driver with those options
[04:21] <urlin2u> WilGil, some usb's have firmware on them that can cause problems have you looked on the web?
[04:21] <office1> cool
[04:21] <csemple> looks to be qin
[04:21] <csemple> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 32768 2011-09-25 15:23 101CANON
[04:21] <csemple> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 32768 2011-09-27 15:30 CANONMSC
[04:21] <office1> good night good guys!
[04:21] <office1> ;)
[04:22] <WilGil> i have been searching for about 2 hours now.  I don't believe that to be the case.  I think I know whats wrong, but don't know how to fix it.
[04:22] <qin> csemple: Is usb on A now?
[04:22] <das7> any youtube downloader for ubuntu ?
[04:22] <WilGil> urlin2u, i have been searching for about 2 hours now. I don't believe that to be the case. I think I know whats wrong, but don't know how to fix it.
[04:22] <csemple> das7, use firefox + the extensions for firefox
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> csemple: what file system does the device use?
[04:22] <maxximus_> anyone know software for ubuntu that converts webcam to ipcam?
[04:22] <csemple> ActionParsnip, fat32
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> !info youtubedl | das7
[04:22] <csemple> fat16
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> csemple: then you may need to remount it readable / writable for user
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> !info youtubedl | das7
[04:23] <csemple> I am lost
[04:23] <das7> csemple, is there an extension 4 that ?
[04:23] <urlin2u> WilGil, maybe if you share your hypothesis it would help.
[04:23] <csemple> das7, yep flashgot is one of them
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> !info youtube-dl
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> thats is
[04:24] <csemple> ahh well
[04:24] <csemple> I will just mount as root manually all the time
[04:24] <csemple> (poor wifey)
[04:24] <qin> csemple: Compare output of "groups" for users in A and B machine, I think group "plugdev" is important here.
[04:24] <qin> csemple: and group "fuse"
[04:24] <das7> i want to set up lamp server sudo apt-get install lamp-server doesn't works
[04:25] <csemple> qin, yeah I have to go though I will work on this next time
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> !lamp
[04:25] <WilGil> urlin2u, I believe that there is a set of reserved bits on all usb flash drives that contain information about the brand, size, and the fact that the device is a removable flash drive.  When the startup disk creator loaded the boot loader and created the persistence partition it flips the bits that denote that it is a flash drive so that a full install can be performed.
[04:25] <soreau> das7: I recommend firefox add-on 'download helper'
[04:26] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  haha I've done 12 hour shifts before and it still didn't cure it
[04:26] <Lasers> das7: I use youtube-dl
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> RP64: 4 days of 12 hours?
[04:26] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  yea
[04:27] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  :D
[04:27] <das7>
[04:27] <das7> soreau, any gud server for ubuntu other than xampp ?
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> RP64: weird, tends to sort me out, on my 4 off I'm up all wacky times
[04:27] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  oh I dont do those regularly i thought you just meant done that ever
[04:27] <soreau> das7: gud server?
[04:28] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  no i havent worked at all in a while actually so nevermind ur probably right haha yea i mean if i had just worked some long hour shift i would have slept
[04:28] <das7> soreau, i mean easily installable
[04:28] <pLp> LOl
[04:28] <pLp> Hey
[04:29] <pLp> Someone here already install the Gnome 3 in the Oneiric?
[04:29] <soreau> ! gnome3 | pLp
[04:29] <soreau> ! 11.04 | pLp
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> pLp: anything oneiric in #ubuntu+1   oneiric ALREADY has Gnome3
[04:30] <stevecam> if i make a purchase through the store in ubuntu, what do ubuntu get out of this?
[04:30] <pLp> So is that my idea
[04:30] <pLp> I guess 10%
[04:30] <pLp> I does'nt know right
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> pLp: I don't follow
[04:30] <jammiesAREon> anyone know anything about DLNA?
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> pLp: do you have Oneiric installed?
[04:31] <pLp> DLNA?
[04:31] <jammiesAREon> like DLNA streaming from ubuntu
[04:31] <pLp> Nope
[04:31] <pLp> I use Natty
[04:31] <qin> pLp: Yes, it is limited to: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell, and Oneiric is supported in #ubuntu+1
[04:31] <pLp> But I have a project
[04:31] <pLp> Yeah, I know
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> pLp: gnome3 will break your install
[04:31] <urlin2u> stevecam, now how would we know that?
[04:32] <pLp> Yeah
[04:32] <pLp> But
[04:32] <soreau> ! enter | pLp
[04:32] <pLp> Someone using Oneiric?
[04:32] <soreau> ! 11.04 | pLp
[04:33] <soreau> ugh
[04:33] <soreau> ! 11.10 | pLp
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> pLp: ask about oneiric in #ubuntu+1
[04:33] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  hey so that article you sent me , i read it and i see what you mean, all its telling me is how to mount the drive with ubuntu on it though, isn't it ?
[04:34] <jammiesAREon> yay by then there will another LTS release
[04:34] <jammiesAREon> i had a ubuntu update that screwed some of my vmware servers
[04:34] <pLp> Yes, probably at 2013, or something like that
[04:34] <jammiesAREon> actually in all fairness it was a linux kernel update
[04:35] <jammiesAREon> so not entireley ubuntu's fault
[04:35] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  like I've had ubuntu installed on my machine for 3 days and I can't get it working I am so .... deflated about it or like, not angry but just ugh lol i  guess you gotta pay this price for better performance + security in an OS
[04:35] <pLp> True Dat
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> RP64: you mount the system partition and you can chroot to it
[04:36] <jammiesAREon> RP64 wats the issue?
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> RP64: a wired link makes life a tonne easier
[04:36] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  does this thing tell me how to chroot though I don't see that in it
[04:36] <RP64> jammiesAREon:  it's a long long issue he helped me out with yesterday for like 4 hours and we still cant fix it, nvidia issues with ubuntu 11.04 on my qosmio x300
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> RP64: you need to mount the partition, bind the 3 folders then chroot
[04:36] <jammiesAREon> oh good luck
[04:36] <jammiesAREon> that sounds like a GUI thing
[04:37] <pLp> GUI thing?
[04:37] <jammiesAREon> lol i've been pretty out of the loop with a GUI lately
[04:37] <pLp> Chroot is in terminal
[04:37] <RP64> jammiesAREon:  lol thx u 2
[04:37] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  OK im mounting
[04:38] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  do you happen to know what /mnt/myroot should be replaced with? myroot??
[04:38] <RP64> what
[04:38] <jammiesAREon> no... plp i mean i only use a command line as of late, so I know nothing about anything when it comes to nvidia stuff as I dont have the need for nvidia graphics drivers or any of that watchmacallits
[04:38] <pLp> Oh I see it
[04:38] <pLp> I mean
[04:38] <pLp> ATI works better with Ubuntu
[04:38] <pLp> In fact
[04:38] <pLp> With mostly Linux Distributions
[04:38] <jammiesAREon> i thought he was having hardrive issues lol  like mounting or something, i dunno i wasnt reading
[04:39] <jammiesAREon> loll
[04:39] <jammiesAREon> ATI has native ubuntu drivers by now ya?
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> RP64: mount to /mnt and you'll be ok
[04:39] <pLp> Always has trouble with Nvidia
[04:39] <pLp> I guess not
[04:39] <pLp> But
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> jammiesAREon: needs updates and cant get a wired link for some reason, but gets a link in liveCD so can use that in a chroot
[04:40] <jammiesAREon> ah
[04:40] <jammiesAREon> i see now
[04:40] <jammiesAREon> that makes sense
[04:40] <pLp> I has a netbook with a Hackint0sh and the Natty
[04:40] <jammiesAREon> so it's a NIC issue?
[04:40] <pLp> And their graphic board card it's an ATI
[04:40] <pLp> But
[04:40] <WilGil> urlin2u, its called the rmb and the only apps that give access are for windows
[04:41] <pLp> My friend has a real good computer, with Windows and Ubuntu Maverick
[04:41] <qin> pLp: Have mercy, write longer lines and keep on-topic
[04:41] <pLp> And it's a Nvidia 9600GT
[04:41] <qin> !ot > pLp
[04:41] <pLp> Never works
[04:41] <pLp> propertly
[04:42] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  hey so I mounted it ,
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> RP64: ok did you use the bind mounts too?
[04:42] <subaochen> revolutionary
[04:42] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  which 3 folders were you talking about? there were folders involved?
[04:42] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  how do I bind 3 folders
[04:42] <RP64> i typed in command $ sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[04:43] <RP64> oh hold on..... the rest of the instructions are what you meant right
[04:43] <urlin2u> WilGil, you can probably wipe the whole usb, I has a sandisk thta was a problem, nut on the web was a way of removing the firmware.
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> RP64: RP64 then use: sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
[04:43] <RP64> oh OK, sorry I didn't write down those things from yesterday
[04:43] <RP64> oh well OK here goes
[04:44] <urlin2u> has=had*
[04:44] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  OK I used that command , hmm did that do it ?
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> RP64: did you get any output from the command?
[04:44] <RP64> no
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> RP64: great, now press up cursor and change the words 'dev' for 'sys'
[04:45] <RP64> haha oh OK
[04:45] <RP64> done , also no output
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> RP64: then same again but change it to 'proc'   obviously without the quotes
[04:46] <RP64> and thx for that little trick of up cursor didnt know that
[04:46] <RP64> OK done no output
[04:46] <pLp> Friends
[04:46] <pLp> I going to have to sleep
[04:46] <RP64> hi Peoples Liberation Party
[04:46] <pLp> Or maybe try
[04:46] <RP64> OK goodnight!
[04:46] <HoNgOuRu> I don't know why but my session just closed without any warnings. I was thrown to the black shell and from there I found something like "your home directory was unmount bla bla... ecryptfs-mount-private" wtf?
[04:46] <pLp> Good night
[04:46] <qin> Disbelive.
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> RP64: ok then run:  sudo chroot /mnt
[04:46] <WilGil> urlin2u, thanks i am familiar with that that is the sandisk u3 utility built into the firmware of the disk controller.  Mine is a pny specifically chosen because it is a very generic usb drive.  There has to be a way to fix theis from linux.  I am pretty much done with windows.  I still have one computer at home running windows and if all else fails i will try some of the usb partition...
[04:46] <WilGil> ...utilities for windwos that i dug up.  But I plan on spending the rest of the night trying to figure out how to do this from linux
[04:46] <pLp> Sorry does'nt help.
[04:46] <HoNgOuRu> when I type that it requests a passphrase
[04:47] <pLp> Bye, see ya tomorrow
[04:47] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  OK I did that and got a new command line with a hashtag
[04:47] <RP64> pLp: bye
[04:47] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  OH yeah it's root/ubuntu
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> RP64: ok you are now talking to your internal drive.
[04:47] <RP64> root @ ubuntu i mean
[04:47] <RP64> wow amazing
[04:47] <urlin2u> WilGil, you might try dban.
[04:47] <RP64> this is what chroot is huh
[04:47] <HoNgOuRu> can anybody help me?
[04:47] <RP64> cool
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> RP64: run:   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:47] <RP64> OK
[04:48] <RP64> both seperately right
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> RP64: on the same line, either way is fine, same result
[04:48] <RP64> woops oh ok i did it seperately already but if its both fine awesome
[04:48] <HoNgOuRu> I have all my data hidden
[04:48] <RP64> hold on
[04:48] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  i got a huge error
[04:48] <HoNgOuRu> or unaccessible
[04:48] <HoNgOuRu> please help
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> RP64: what is the error?
[04:48] <Stanley00> !patience | HoNgOuRu
[04:49] <WilGil> urlin2u, maybe, i was just reading something about testdisk, maybe that will work
[04:49] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  hey I'll pastebin it to you
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> RP64: coolio
[04:49] <RP64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/700292/
[04:50] <RP64> i mean it said FATAL that can't be good
[04:50] <qin> RP64: Do you want to paste: "history"
[04:50] <RP64> qin: What are you talking about? lol
[04:52] <qin> RP64: It terminal: history and paste output on paste.ubuntu.com
[04:52] <RP64> oh OK
[04:52] <RP64> it only lists two.... 1 sudo apt -get update, and 2 history
[04:52] <mattwj2002> hey everyone
[04:53] <RP64> qin: is that strange
[04:53] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, re:RP64 "sh: cannot create /dev/null: Directory nonexistent" that's really weird
[04:53] <RP64> zykotick9: oh is it, do you think my installation of ubuntu is faulty or something ?
[04:54] <zykotick9> RP64, ?
[04:54] <RP64> zykotick9: ???? because you said that error is weird
[04:54] <mattwj2002> does anyone have any suggestions for a good bluetooth or other type of wireless mini keyboard with touchpad?
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: yeah, websearching now. Strange
[04:54] <mattwj2002> I need ubuntu support
[04:54] <zykotick9> RP64, i don't know what it means, just sayin' it's weird
[04:54] <RP64> zykotick9:  lol oh. dang.
[04:55] <urlin2u> mattwj2002, you might try #hardware
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> RP64: do you have /home on a seperate partition?
[04:55] <mattwj2002> okay
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> RP64: in the installed OS?
[04:55] <mattwj2002> thanks
[04:55] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  I have an extended partition that hosts the installed OS on 2 sub partitions
[04:56] <soreau> urlin2u: I don't think #hardware redirects to ##hardware..
[04:56] <WilGil> urlin2u: this is bizzar.  I just stuck the flash drive in another machine to see if it would boot it and it did (as i expected).  Pulled it out and popped it into my desktop, upon which i was installing test disk and it automounted and popped up on the desktop.  Thanks for all of your help.
[04:56] <RP64> ActionParsnip: I mean I haven't even been able to log into the ubuntu OS even once so I don't think I've put the /home onto a seperate partition because I followed pretty much default settings for installation
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> RP64: ok try:  source /home/foo/.bashrc   change 'foo' for your ubuntu username
[04:56] <urlin2u> soreau, it does but it was the wrong notation.
[04:56] <kristopher> partitions - ughhh i just got done writing a whole article on filesystems and virtual memory not to mention sd cards
[04:56] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  OK
[04:56] <urlin2u> WilGil, cool np.
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> RP64: you can use TAB to complete folder and filenames
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> RP64: actually, run:  su foo    chnage foo to your username, see if it works
[04:57] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  hey when i did the first command you posted, it just repeated many times, dev null no such file or directory
[04:57] <Arcademan> ActionParsnip, did my hostmask show up a few min ago :P
[04:57] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  your second command had same result
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> RP64: ok try: sudo mknod -m 666 /dev/null c 1 3
[04:58] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  but it has to exist because the commandline is using my username in it
[04:59] <tim> Hello. I am looking to make my mousebutton right-click a hotkey on my keyboard because my laptop mouse is broken :-( Does anyone know the command line program that when you click any button or key shows the command of what youre doing?
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> RP64: may help
[04:59] <RP64> actionparsnip:
[04:59] <RP64> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[04:59] <RP64> sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[04:59] <RP64> :( that happened
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> RP64: ok try the update again
[05:00] <zykotick9> RP64, is this a fresh install?  (do you have any data/settings involved?)
[05:01] <RP64> zykotick9: yeah its fresh 3 days ago
[05:01] <RP64> ActionParsnip: OK how do I try the update again? my whole terminal is flooded with error outputs so i cant see it
[05:01] <zykotick9> RP64, what happened?
[05:01] <RP64> zkotick9: I had it 3 days and cant login even once so theres no data/settings on it lol i didn't import either
[05:02] <BabyGirly> ma i missing something here,,i want to dim my desktop,,is not working = setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=
[05:02] <esheep> RP64: blow it again and start again
[05:02] <RP64> zykotick9: It's not detecting Nvidia drivers i figured, because when I login it goes to black screen and some normal workarounds to that didnt work
[05:02] <zykotick9> RP64, can you login from tty?  (like ctrl+alt+f1 - c+a+f7(orf8) to get back)
[05:02] <RP64> esheep: what do you mean blow it again
[05:02] <RP64> zykotick9: hold on im trying something parsnip said
[05:03] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  Hey how do I try the update again?
[05:03] <esheep> RP64: lol - i meant blow it away and start again
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> RP64: sudo apt-get update
[05:03] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  dang , didn't work
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> RP64: use up arrow to use old commands ;)
[05:03] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  oh OK thx cool
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> RP64: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[05:04] <zykotick9> RP64, is it gdm / gui that doesn't start?  can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for the channel?
[05:04] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  well im surfing some websites at the moment so i know that would work but ok
[05:04] <RP64> esheep:  haha oh
[05:04] <RP64> zykotick9: what , no it starts up fine goes to login screen, and then i login succesfully, andi t shows normally for 0.5 seconds and then blackscreens
[05:05] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  OK its pinging it
[05:05] <zykotick9> RP64, that's messed, i have no idea.  good luck!
[05:05] <RP64> zykotick9: lol thanks yea i know right
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> RP64: also run:  sudo nano /etc/default/grub     find this line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"  and change it to: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nouveau.blacklist=1 nv.blacklist=1"     press CTRL+X, press Y, press ENTER. Then run:  sudo update-grub
[05:06] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  does it keep pinging forever??
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> RP64: yes, press CTRL+C t stop it
[05:06] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  didn't nouveau.blacklist=1 not work with this video card before ?
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> RP64: we;re adding it to the default config now ;)
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> RP64: if we blacklist both it will force vesa driver :)
[05:07] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  Woah!!!! It gets the same unable to resolve host ubuntu crap that it did with the tryingto update!
[05:07] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  when I try to run the sudo nano etc defualt thing
[05:08] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  does it mean anything by "no tty present and no askpass program specified " or is that useless info
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> RP64: ok what is the output of:  cat /etc/hostname
[05:08] <RP64> output is ryan-Qosmio-X300
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> RP64: ok then run: hostname ryan-Qosmio-X300       keep the case accurate
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> RP64: then try the update
[05:09] <BabyGirly> how can i make my pc to start automatic with this settings for my DIM- setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=$b$b
[05:09] <BabyGirly> i mean setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=40
[05:09] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  said I must be root , ill try with sudo
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> RP64: you're learning :)
[05:10] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  lol thx and btw it had the exact same error
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> BabyGirly: add it in /etc/rc.local above the exit 0 line
[05:10] <bhavesh_> Does Ubuntu software centre install a file immediately after downloading? or after downloading all of them?
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> bhavesh_: it downloads them all first
[05:11] <bhavesh_> ActionParsnip, ok :)
[05:11] <RP64> ActionParsnip: had the exact same error, that's strange
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> RP64: ok if you run:  sudo nano /etc/hosts    add the line:  <IP_ADDRESS>     ubuntu     press CTRL+X, Press Y then  press ENTER
[05:11] <Glitchy> having issues with firefox. major lag issues
[05:12] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  nano/etc/hosts gives the same error too! Wow this is crazy
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> RP64: so it will be:  <IP_ADDRESS>       ubuntu
[05:12] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  I keep getting told "unable to resolve host ubuntu" "no tty present and no askpass program specified" with all of these unrelated commands
[05:12] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  that sudo nano/etc/hosts gave it too
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> RP64: ok in the live cd (not the chroot), run:   gksudo nautilus   (use a new terminal)   and you can then navigate to /mnt/etc   and edit the file yourself :)
[05:13] <Glitchy> what is the issue you are having rp?
[05:13] <Glitchy> out of curiousity
[05:13] <mlatelcom> hello everybody, I just added a channel where I'm registered at to my favourites in empathy messenger; but I can't auto login due since my nick is registered. what can I do?
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> RP64: If that doesn't fly then I'd try a clean install
[05:13] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  OK hold on im trying it D:
[05:14] <Glitchy> well shit...
[05:14] <RP64> Glitchy:  Well it's that my ubuntu install wont detect my nvidia display card so it blackscreens after logging in
[05:14] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip & RP64 if the hostname is messed up, sudo is probably broken
[05:14] <Glitchy> ah, totally different issue than what mines doing
[05:15] <Glitchy> how do you clean install ubuntu? is it basically the same as windows
[05:15] <urlin2u> mlatelcom, you might ask at #freenode
[05:16] <esheep> Glitchy: whats your issue?
[05:16] <Glitchy> major lag issues after a failed install of openvpn
[05:16] <mlatelcom> urlin2u thanks very much for your help I'll try that
[05:17] <RP64> ActionParsnip: OK I added the line, I put it at the bottom of the other 2 instead of before does that matter?
[05:17] <Glitchy> couldnt get network manager to recognize the conf files so i tried installing in root, it froze in terminal for more than an hour and i finally forced closed...
[05:17] <WilGil> RP64, ActionParsnip, I don't mean to butt in, but have you tried booting with nomodeset
[05:17] <RP64> WilGil: yeah man it didn't work
[05:17] <urlin2u> mlatelcom, np, hope that woks.
[05:17] <Glitchy> "Actionparsnip" is no longer in here
[05:17] <urlin2u> works*
[05:17] <RP64> what....
[05:17] <RP64> hahah wow where'd parsnip go
[05:18] <Glitchy> esheep you get all that?
[05:19] <esheep> Glitchy: yep got that, did u completely remove openvpn?
[05:19] <linuxuz3r> hi
[05:19] <Glitchy> no...honestly still trying to figure out the ubuntu style
[05:20] <Glitchy> wanted to get the vpntunnel working...but i think i may just have to uninstall it all...
[05:20] <Glitchy> ill go do all that stuff...be back later
[05:21] <WilGil> RP64, is that a pci card or an integrated card?
[05:21] <esheep> Glitchy: not sure what the issue is but i would go into synaptic package manager and choose the complete removal for openvpn - at least that might get you back to normal
[05:21] <RP64> wilgil: its nvidia geforce
[05:22] <RP64> wilgil: BTW if you were following our convo, adding the line to the hosts file actually solved 1 of the 2 errors it kept repeating , the "unable to resolve hostname ubuntu" one
[05:22] <RP64> WilGil: but "no tty present and no askpass program specified" keeps happening when I try to update the driver
[05:23] <RP64> WilGil: Any ideas? lol , I'll take any
[05:23] <WilGil> RP64, I only caught some of your conv
[05:23] <WilGil> RP64, are you working off of a live cd chrooted
[05:24] <RP64> WilGil:  Oh, well basically my installation of ubuntu won't recognize my Nvidia card, so , everytiem I login it blackscreens, we tried nomodeset and also nouveau.=1 thing, both didnt work
[05:24] <RP64> WilGil:  and yea it's live cd chrooted
[05:24] <WilGil> RP64, and you have video on the live cd?
[05:24] <RP64> WilGil:  Yea
[05:25] <linuxuz3r> hi RP64
[05:25] <linuxuz3r> hi WilGil
[05:25] <esheep> RP64: what is the model of that nvidia card?
[05:25] <linuxuz3r> hi all
[05:25] <linuxuz3r> hello esheep
[05:25] <RP64> hi linuxuz3r
[05:25] <RP64> esheep: hmm not sure i'll check
[05:25] <esheep> hi
[05:25] <esheep> RP64: its helps to know :)
[05:27] <RP64> esheep: Im not sure but I'm 99% sure it's GeForce 9800M GTS
[05:28] <lauratika> hello everyone, right now my speakers sound very crappy... like if they are blowed up... is there a way to check if everything it's ok with the sound?
[05:28] <Max229> What is the difference between hibernate and suspend?
[05:28] <esheep> RP64: damn, no reason why thats shouldn't be detected i would have thought
[05:28] <RP64> esheep: Hmm really weird
[05:29] <Max229> !hibernate
[05:29] <RP64> esheep: Dangit! I like ubuntu its like sexier than a Mac and windows is just ugh , even though mine is really secure + safe , and is running fast, i still dislike it
[05:29] <linuxuz3r> your ubuntu
[05:29] <WilGil> Max229: suspend powers down most of the computer except ram, hibernate shuts down the whole computer and saves ram contents to hard drive
[05:29] <linuxuz3r> ubuntu is sexy
[05:29] <linuxuz3r> yum
[05:29] <Max229> WilGil: Which is better?
[05:29] <linuxuz3r> the best
[05:30] <esheep> RP64: did you actually get to install the nvidia drivers or did it not get that far?
[05:30] <RP64> esheep: that's what im trying to do now, it wont let me through chroot for some reason
[05:30] <WilGil> Max229, depends, suspend wakes up faster, but uses more power, hibernate takes the same amount of time as a reboot, but saves your spot and of course uses less power
[05:31] <lauratika> anyone?
[05:31] <RP64> esheep: I run sudo apt-get update and it tells me "sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[05:31] <esheep> RP64: what version of ubuntu?
[05:31] <Max229> suspend sometimes does not display the logon screen though and simply does not work :(
[05:31] <RP64> esheep:  11.04
[05:31] <RP64> lauratika:  Hey, if it sounds messed up then you know it's not OK, probably , right?
[05:31] <mike_sr> rp64, when did u install the os?
[05:32] <WilGil> Max229, what kind of computer is it desktop or laptop
[05:32] <RP64> mike_sr: 3 days ago and been trying to fix this ever since, first tried through booting going to grub, pressing E and adding codelines to try nomodeset and nouveau.=1 thing and they both didn't work
[05:32] <Max229> desktop
[05:32] <esheep> RP64: perhaps its a 11.04 issue - unity screwed a lot up IMHO
[05:32] <RP64> mike_sr: now trying this and it gives me this error while chrooting
[05:32] <RP64> esheep: you're not using 11.04?
[05:33] <RP64> esheep: I haven't used ubuntu for more than a year and came back to it just now and get all this, lol
[05:33] <mike_sr> rp64, try running the update manager to get the updates
[05:33] <esheep> RP64: you could try maverick 10.10 - thats what i use
[05:33] <Max229> WilGil: I have not tried hibernate yet, but suspend only works half the time and when it does work it takes awhile for the logon screen to popup.  This is a very fast computer. Hardware speed should not be the problem.
[05:33] <lauratika> RP64: yes your rigth... but i was listening this afternoon no proeblems at all
[05:33] <lauratika> sounds a bot weird
[05:33] <RP64> mike_sr: that's what im trying, thing is it wont let me login to my ubuntu anyways that's the whole proble, because it blackscreens upon login, and now im on livecd trying to chroot update it and gives me weird errors when i try
[05:33] <mike_sr> once u do that, u should be able to use sudo
[05:33] <lauratika> like if the volume is to high
[05:34] <RP64> lauratika: is the volume high? did you check?
[05:34] <lauratika> check alsamixer nothings
[05:34] <mike_sr> rp64, did u try reinstalling it??
[05:34] <WilGil> Max229, are you using any propritary drivers
[05:34] <RP64> mike_sr: no i think i might have to which'll suck
[05:34] <lauratika> restart pulseaudio via killall and still no changes
[05:34] <Max229> WilGil: Yes, but only for video
[05:34] <mike_sr> yeah
[05:35] <mike_sr> rp64, if u have anything saved on it that u wana keep, save it on an external, or a disc
[05:35] <RP64> mike_sr: nope got nothing havent been able to use it at all since i installed it 3 days ago lol
[05:35] <WilGil> Max229, Are you comfortable with navigating your bios?
[05:35] <RP64> mike_sr: mostly using Vista which I hate I mean who likes vista??? or windows at all , it's just bad
[05:36] <Max229> WilGil: I can do most things with it, yes
[05:36] <RP64> mike_sr:  but I do applaud bill gates on his tactics of earning lots of cash
[05:36] <mike_sr> rp64, as soon as it reboots, after the install, run the update manager under system/administration
[05:36] <RP64> mike_sr: Well that's assuming that I can login at all right
[05:37] <mike_sr> rp64, may i pm u?
[05:37] <RP64> mike_sr: yea why not
[05:38] <WilGil> Max229, many of the ones that i have worked with have a power managment setting.  You may want to google the options given in your bios and Ubuntu and be sure that you are using the optimal settings.
[05:38] <A_J> Hey All, I've Installed a new sounc Card Create BLaster, problem is volume is very dim on headphones, anyway i can increase it.
[05:39] <Max229> Alright.  I will play with it and see what happens. Thanks.
[05:39] <WilGil> Max229, some just have something like suspend to ram disable or enable and some give you different leves to choose S1, S3
[05:40] <A_J> Hey All, I've Installed a new sound Card Creative BLaster, problem is volume is very dim on headphones, anyway i can increase it. it's already at max, and it's soft
[05:42] <A_J> any1 here ?
[05:42] <jianfei> yeh i am
[05:42] <jianfei> i had this problem once before...
[05:42] <jianfei> cant remember how to fix it
[05:42] <A_J> lol
[05:42] <jianfei> sorry man
[05:42] <A_J> no probs
[05:42] <jianfei> but just be me saying that, some lazy tech guy is gonna wanna help you ... so i have been usefull
[05:42] <IdleOne> A_J: run alsamixer make sure Headphones are turned up
[05:43] <jianfei> see
[05:43] <jianfei> hahaha
[05:43] <IdleOne> hah
[05:43] <jianfei> rofl
[05:43] <A_J> IdleOne: alsamixer is a ?
[05:43] <soreau> A_J: command you run in your terminal
[05:44] <A_J> okie doin it now
[05:44] <jianfei> awesome!
[05:44] <soreau> A_J: 2) mixer panel for alsa
[05:44] <IdleOne> A_J: you use the arrow keys to move around
[05:44] <soreau> A_J: and 'm' to (un)mute tracks
[05:44] <RP64> ActionParsnip: Hey you here
[05:44] <A_J> what should i do now
[05:44] <IdleOne> depends, what have you done?
[05:45] <A_J> nothing yet
[05:45] <esheep> RP64: got any further?
[05:45] <RP64> esheep:  not at all, lol, i googled this error and most of it is for red hat stuff that doesn't make sense to me, and for ubuntu it's people with completely diferent problems and none of them solved it
[05:45] <IdleOne> A_J: ok with the left/right arrow keys move to the headphones line (should turn red) then up/down to adjust the volume.
[05:46] <A_J> they are  6 colums IdleOne move all to red ?
[05:46] <IdleOne> you have six columns labeled Headphones?
[05:46] <soreau> A_J: F6 to change devices.. make sure you've selected the one for your headphones
[05:47] <esheep> RP64: yeah its like that sometimes - i would try a copy of 10.10 and see if that works
[05:47] <RP64> esheep: are you on 10.10 right now
[05:47] <esheep> yeah
[05:47] <A_J> soreau: no headphones there
[05:47] <esheep> and i have a 9500 gt card
[05:47] <RP64> esheep: did you try 11.04 what'd you think between the two as in comparison? and also do you think if I used 10.10 it'd be less secure/ usefull ?
[05:47] <esheep> RP64: no issues at all
[05:47] <RP64> esheep: well I mean besides the fact that 11.04 is useless for me at this point lol
[05:47] <RP64> esheep:  10.10 is the longterm release right ?
[05:48] <A_J> IdleOne: can you have a look via vnc ?
[05:48] <soreau> A_J: How/where do you connect your headphones?
[05:48] <esheep> RP64: ive tried 11.04 on a few laptops and quite frankly hated it
[05:48] <A_J> into the sound card soreau
[05:48] <soreau> A_J: Make sure you're using an output appropriate for headphones and not line out
[05:49] <esheep> RP64: always issues with 11.04
[05:49] <IdleOne> A_J: soreau can probably be of more help then I could. Also learn to trust yourself and not allow total irc strangers access to your machine :)
[05:49] <A_J> ok ty IdleOne
[05:49] <A_J> soreau: it's a 5.1 card. so i put it in the green jack
[05:49] <soreau> A_J: Yes, I would not recommend remote access between strangers under any circumstances
[05:49] <seidell> how do i install themes from http://xfce-look.org ?
[05:49] <esheep> RP64: 10.10 is not LTS, 10.04 is though
[05:50] <RP64> esheep: Oh, so you're saying all my probs im having are possibly due to 11.04 being too buggy hmm
[05:50] <RP64> esheep: so 10.10 is perfectly safe to use right its not like running a version from 4 years ago or something
[05:51] <soreau> A_J: The green output is typically the main output.. so make sure to turn up the master and pcm volumes in alsamixer
[05:51] <esheep> RP64: its possible but cant be too sure
[05:51] <esheep> RP64: 10.10 is fine to use
[05:51] <A_J> soreau: http://i27.lulzimg.com/6ff26c206c.png
[05:51] <Cojo1> Hello, I am having trouble burning an ISO to a USB disk
[05:52] <Cojo1> When I use that start up disk creator and choose the .iso I have, nothing happens
[05:52] <urlin2u> Cojo1, whats the ISO?
[05:52] <soreau> A_J: Does F6 show more than one card?
[05:52] <RP64> esheep: haha, nice . So its sort of like 11.04 is ubuntu's vista, and 11.10 will be their windows7
[05:52] <esheep> RP64: you could even try a recent beta of 11.10 - who knows you're problem might not arise with that new one...
[05:53] <Cojo1> @urlin2u the .iso is of openSUSE 11.4
[05:53] <A_J> two soreau
[05:53] <reborn> you need to burn the CD.
[05:53] <seidell> how do i install themes from http://xfce-look.org ?
[05:53] <A_J> nvidia and Ca0150
[05:53] <urlin2u> Cojo1, the disv creator mainly does ubuntu loading, try unetbootin.
[05:53] <snake_> Morning!
[05:53] <Cojo1> Ok, I would burn a disk but my optical drive does not work with ubuntu :(
[05:54] <esheep> RP64: remember LTS versions should be "rock solid" the rest is really testing - although generally stable and fine
[05:54] <reborn> url, i have once tried that unetbootin, it don't work, so it is only CD.
[05:55] <RP64> esheep: wait , 11.10 is a long term release too?
[05:55] <RP64> LTS?
[05:55] <urlin2u> Cojo1, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-suse-flash-drive-install/
[05:55] <A_J> soreau: well ?
[05:55] <reborn> no, it is 12.04
[05:55] <Planewalker_Alph> Hello.
[05:55] <esheep> RP64: no, next one is 12.04
[05:55] <soreau> A_J: Try all the output jacks on the card and test the headphones with a known working audio device
[05:56] <urlin2u> Cojo1, sorry I didn't notice that this was for a full install.
[05:56] <A_J> it works fine with speakers soreau just not with headphones
[05:56] <soreau> A_J: Your speakers may have a built-in amplifier..
[05:56] <RP64> esheep:  So what's LTS mean?
[05:56] <soreau> ! lts | RP64
[05:57] <A_J> yes they do soreau
[05:57] <Cojo1> @Urlin it also requires me to burn a disk. If I could fix my optical drive I could burn a DVD, that would be great. It's a bluray combodrive though... IDK where to get drivers that will work with it
[05:57] <RP64> esheep: ohright, yea... duh
[05:57] <soreau> A_J: How many outputs do you have on the card and what colors are they?
[05:58] <esheep> RP64: i assume its a laptop you are using?
[05:58] <RP64> esheep: OK I'll try 10.10 or 10.04 but if the next release is 10.10 then wouldn't that mean I just have to wait a couple of weeks for it to be released?
[05:58] <RP64> i mean 11.10
[05:58] <RP64> for next releasename
[05:59] <RP64> esheep:  yeah its a laptop but a desktop replacement laptop qosmio gaming pc
[05:59] <Cojo1> Does anyone have any ideahow I might be able to fix my optical drive? When I try to burn a disc it does the checksum and everything but once the actual burning is about to start i get an error
[05:59] <RP64> esheep:  so you cant carry it ANYWHERE its like 30 pounds
[05:59] <urlin2u> Cojo1, it appears to be kinda tricky, I put it on a disc as well when I was trying it out, this is a thumb install but requires a disc as well. http://www.ehow.com/how_6871881_install-suse-flash-drive.html
[05:59] <A_J> soreau: sorry dced
[05:59] <Cojo1> If I could make a disk I wouldn't need to use my USB drive!
[06:00] <Cojo1> @ Urlin does your knowledge extend to magical healing powers of my optical drive?
[06:00] <Planewalker_Alph> Quick, noobish question: How do you set up ssh? I have read several articles on this, but I keep getting an error which says "No route to host".
[06:00] <esheep> RP64: ah its a toshiba jobby is it?
[06:01] <RP64> esheep:  lol well it's their top of the line gaming PC line and its the first one they ever released in 2008 , so they were really making it to compete with all the alienware so if u meant jobby asin crappy then this'd be the exception if they are known for that (i dont even know)
[06:01] <urlin2u> Cojo1, no but you may have no choice in finding a way to do it, say like using another computer to use a disc, and load the thumb.
[06:01] <Cojo1> So brutal....
[06:01] <Cojo1> What's the terminal command to display your optical drive info?
[06:02] <urlin2u> Cojo1, my magical powers are being able to deal with smug patronizing responses.
[06:02] <esheep> RP64: not sure if you have looked at this but read this --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen
[06:04] <RP64> esheep:  Oh nice, thanks for that esheep im checking it out
[06:04] <esheep> RP64: gotta go - good luck with that!
[06:04] <RP64> esheep: OK thx man cya
[06:05] <obi> ???
[06:05] <Cojo1> @urlin Was I being patronizing? I really did not mean to be offensive if it came off that way, just playing around
[06:06] <A_J> soreau: herE ?
[06:07] <soreau> nope
[06:07] <soreau> A_J: Try all outputs on the card and verify the headphones work with another known working audio device
[06:08] <seidell> how do i change xfce theme?
[06:09] <A_J> soreau: i upped the tabs, the sound is cracking
[06:09] <Cojo1> Where can I find what type of optical drive I have?
[06:09] <soreau> ! sound | A_J
[06:10] <reborn> seid, check the setting.
[06:10]  * A_J looks thanks soreau
[06:18] <brombomb> Every time I run a sudo command on my Ubuntu Server box it hangs for ~60 seconds before completing... Any ideas?
[06:19] <soreau> brombomb: After you enter your password?
[06:19] <brombomb> yes
[06:20] <brombomb> and the password is correct and the command completes
[06:20] <brombomb> it just hangs for 60 seconds
[06:20] <llutz_> brombomb: are you using ldap or something like that?
[06:21] <brombomb> nope... It's just a home server
[06:21] <brombomb> one user account
[06:21] <brombomb> headless
[06:22] <llutz_> brombomb: /etc/hosts contains your full host.domain.name for <IP_ADDRESS>?
[06:25] <brombomb> I have <IP_ADDRESS> localhost
[06:25] <brombomb> and my static internal ip for the Servername
[06:25] <llutz_> brombomb: just to test: add "localhost.localdomain" for <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:25] <pleclown> hello
[06:27] <lostandfound> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main mysql-server-5.0 5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10
[06:27] <lostandfound>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[06:27] <rapier> hi could someone pls link me the website used to make these dump links, thx
[06:27] <brombomb> llutztz_ Added but no luck
[06:28] <soreau> ! eol
[06:28] <soreau> rapier: dump links?
[06:29] <llutz_> brombomb: no idea then, sry
[06:29] <llutz_> !paste | rapier this?
[06:29] <rapier> yes instead of spamming the info in here you post a link.
[06:29] <soreau> Ah, nice catch llutz
[06:29] <rapier> yes, thx ubottu :)
[06:30] <soreau> brombomb: Can you elaborate on what you mean by 'hangs'?
[06:31] <brombomb> I run any sudo command (before sudo vim /etc/hosts)
[06:31] <brombomb> I hit enter
[06:31] <brombomb> wait 60 seconds
[06:31] <brombomb> then vim opens up
[06:31] <soreau> At what point do you enter your password?
[06:31] <brombomb> immediatly
[06:32] <soreau> That's pretty strange if you ask me..
[06:32] <T1z0ck> #sexo
[06:32] <lorddelta> Looking for advice on why my devices are being archives when they connect to my system...so far I've determined p7zip is being run by init when a device connects, I did a quick man init, and have so far not found any reference being made to p7zip in my /etc/init scripts directory. I'm running Ubuntu 11.04.
[06:32] <soreau> brombomb: Is this through ssh or what?
[06:33] <brombomb> ssh, it's a headless box
[06:33] <Flannel> brombomb: Have you been doing any hostname fiddling recently? (around when this started)
[06:33] <soreau> Yes, when did this start? (did it ever work?)
[06:34] <Flannel> brombomb: If you've removed the <IP_ADDRESS> [myhostname] line from /etc/hosts, sudo will take forever (it's trying to look up the hostname and the N second delay is it finally timing out)
[06:34] <brombomb> It was working great until a week ago
[06:35] <soreau> brombomb: What did you do that broke it?
[06:35] <brombomb> haven't touched it
[06:35] <brombomb> I noticed it was slow
[06:36] <brombomb> so I went to install htop and found it to be slower than expected
[06:36] <brombomb> ran htop and the server is practically sleeping (1% processer, 200MB / 2GB RAM)
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> Brombomb: tried a different dns?
[06:37] <brombomb> this is a local network server
[06:37] <Flannel> brombomb: Alright, if you don't mind, please pastebin the output of: cat /etc/hosts /etc/hostname
[06:37] <brombomb> I'm sshing from my laptop to the box 10feet away over wireless
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> Brombomb: so its slow serving clients on lan too?
[06:38] <theTwiz> hi all
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> Hi theTwiz
[06:38] <lorddelta> Hello?
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> Hi lorddelta
[06:38] <brombomb> http://pastebin.com/1kaBD72Y
[06:38] <brombomb> yup
[06:39] <lorddelta> Anyone know much about init/system events? Trying to figure out why/who/what is telling init to archive devices using 7zip when they attach to the system....
[06:39] <soreau> hm
[06:40] <soreau> Wouldn't having <IP_ADDRESS> defined twice cause problems?
[06:40] <Flannel> brombomb: What's the IP on that machine?  I have a feeling it isn't <IP_ADDRESS> anymore.
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> soreau: shouldnt do. Not sure about resolving hostname to
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> Not <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:41] <theTwiz> im trying to setup two identical hdds in raid 0, but mdadm keeps returning "/dev/sdc1 is not suitable for this array." when i fdisk -l i can see the two identical hdds have differing numbers of heads and cylinders, even thought they should be the same. is there a guide i can follow to make sure i have fully formatted these drives?
[06:41] <brombomb> Flannel:  I think thats it
[06:41] <soreau> brombomb: Don't guess, check ifconfig
[06:41] <brombomb>  inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:42] <Flannel> brombomb: Well, that's not it.  That line should be a localhost IP, not your current IP.
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> brombomb: try commenting the entry to resolve your hostname to its lan ip and make it resolve to <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:42] <Flannel> So, yeah, that is the issue, but changing it to 129 isn't the fix, changing it to <IP_ADDRESS> is :)
[06:43]  * soreau doesn't understand /etc/hosts file at all
[06:43] <brombomb> all right
[06:43] <soreau> I've setup fairly complicated servers including my own and never really had to mess with it
[06:43] <brombomb> working super snappy now!
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> soreau: its the first call for name to ip resolution ;)
[06:44] <brombomb> thanks Flannel and ActionParsnip
[06:44] <Flannel> brombomb: No problem.
[06:44] <soreau> ActionParsnip: Kinda like internal dns?
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> brombomb: local comms were going onto the la
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> Lan
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> brombomb: they are now local so take zero time
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> soreau: exactly.
[06:45] <brombomb> makes sense
[06:46] <soreau> ActionParsnip: What edits it automatically? (because mine is apparently correctly populated even though I've never touched it)
[06:46]  * tonyyarusso notes that you CAN make DNS lookups happen BEFORE hostfile lookups
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> soreau: i have a tonne of entries in mine to make ad sites like doubleclick resolve to <IP_ADDRESS> and as i don't run a web server they fail to load :-)
[06:47] <soreau> huh
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Soreau: i believe the installer sets it up initially
[06:47] <stevecam> If I installed Windows on a separate partition, would I be able to virtualize my Ubuntu install "as is"
[06:47] <Guest74778> Hey guys.  Anyone here know how to get Ubuntu to recognize  a dvd drive?
[06:47] <lorddelta> ActionParsnip: Mmm www.facebook.com <IP_ADDRESS> yay ultimate adblocker :P
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> Guest74778: Normally you woudn't have to do anything.  So, your question is actually how to make it recognize YOUR DVD drive, which apparently doesn't work properly.
[06:48] <lorddelta> (in the hosts file that is)
[06:48] <soreau> stevecam: Potentially.. but you could have several problems to work out
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> lorddelta's productivity just increased 600%.
[06:48] <stevecam> soreau, a breif example?
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> Soreau: pages with ads in usually fail to load as the browser trys to get data from localhost which fails, as it doesnt exist
[06:49] <Guest74778> Yeah, that's what I meant.
[06:49] <soreau> stevecam: First you'd have to tell the filesystem to load correctly in /etc/fstab and mtab
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> lorddelta: exactly
[06:49] <stevecam> Well, that's understandable
[06:49] <Guest74778> How do I do that?
[06:49] <Guest74778> <--- Very new to linux.
[06:49] <honour> how can i add a custom command to the launcher in unity and set it to run on login?
[06:50] <soreau> Guest74778: It should already be recognized if it's installed correctly and the bios 'sees' it
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> Guest74778: Often the most productive first step is to Google with "Ubuntu ModelNumberOfDrive" or "Linux ModelNumberOfDrive" to see if there are any forum posts or wiki pages that refer to your specific hardware.  What model is it?
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Soreau: you can even add an entry where www.google.com goes to a totally different IP. A great April fool joke
[06:50] <acrawford> how can i get my web cam that is an ezonics to work with this asus eeepc  anyone?
[06:50] <soreau> honour: Command to be run as user or root?
[06:50] <fission6> any ideas on whats wrong, trying to install mongodb from their repo's http://dpaste.com/624724/
[06:50] <honour> soreau: user
[06:50] <Guest74778> Hold on, let me get the box.
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> Honor: press SuperL and search Dash for: start
[06:51] <soreau> honour: Add it in gnome-session-properties
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> acrawford: does it work in cheese?
[06:52] <alesan> hi
[06:52] <soreau> fission6: Seems like you'd need to remove mongodb-clients first
[06:52] <alesan> how can I install thunderbird 7.0.1?
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> !newthunderbird
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> oh come on ubottu
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> alesan: There used to be a wiki page about this...somewhere...
[06:53] <soreau> alesan: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/
[06:53] <honour> is it possible to add it to the left hand unity launcher thing too?
[06:54] <alesan> soreau, what should I do with that site?
[06:54] <Guest34834> nick wmd
[06:54] <Guest34834> ops
[06:54] <alesan> tonyyarusso, I will search
[06:54] <soreau> alesan: Click the big green button that says "Thunderbird Free Download 7.0.1" ?
[06:54] <alesan> soreau, are you giving this kind of advice on #ubuntu?
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> alesan: You can just get it from the page soreau mentioned - I just don't remember if that's the "recommended" process right now or not.
[06:54] <soreau> wow
[06:55] <alesan> it is obvious I want to install from a repository and get automated upgrades
[06:55] <alesan> otherwise I would install windows
[06:55] <soreau> no, it is not
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> Soreau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/700323/
[06:56] <wmnd> hi
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> tonyyarusso: there is a ppa for it
[06:56] <alesan> watever. I installed the correct PPA
[06:56] <alesan> bye
[06:56] <wmnd> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an eeepc and I did follow the instructions - made a bootable usb pen drive with ubuntu and checked boot order in bios
[06:57] <wmnd> but it still does not boot from the usb pen
[06:57] <soreau> ActionParsnip: That's very nice but I was wondering what adds /etc/hosts entries automatically.. I don't think it only happens on install
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Soreau: some dark voodoo
[06:57] <wmnd> any ideas ob what may be going on? do some usb pens not work?
[06:57] <Guest74778> Okay guys, this is the burner I have.  L12-1312 OEM
[06:58] <soreau> wmnd: At what point does it fail?
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> Guest74778: are you having trouble with just the burning functionality, or reading as well?
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> Wmnd: did you md5 test the iso you downloaded?
[07:00] <Guest74778> I have both Ubuntu (11.04) and Windows 7 (64 bit) installed.  Windows uses the drive completely fine, but Ubuntu doesn't recognize it at all, for some reason.
[07:01] <wmnd> soreau, it simply boots to windows straight away
[07:01] <wmnd> ActionParsnip, yes I tested it and the iso is fine
[07:01] <soreau> wmnd: Are you actually telling it to boot from usb?
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> Guest74778: is there a product name for this in addition to the number?
[07:02] <soreau> Guest74778: What makes you think it isn't recognized?
[07:02] <wmnd> soreau, I hope so I've set the boot order to bootable device, then HD, and also I tried simple reboot and running the installer in the usb pen and order it to reboot from there
[07:03] <Guest74778> I guess the product name would be Lite-On?
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> Guest74778: does it show in: sudo lshw -C drive; sudo lshw -C disk
[07:03] <lorddelta> So...init handles everything through conf files/scripts, but it looks like I need to learn how to hook into system events...
[07:03] <wmnd> soreau, or is there some other way to specify that I want it to boot from usb?
[07:03] <lorddelta> To figure out who is starting p7zip
[07:03] <lorddelta> =/
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> Guest74778: that's the brand
[07:03] <Guest74778> I say it doesn't recognize it because when trying to get vbox running earlier, the dvd drive wasn't an option to load my windows 7 disk from, and upon further inspection, I realized that movies won't play on Ubuntu either.
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> Wmnd: how did you put the data on the usb stick?
[07:04] <Guest74778> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4829307&CatId=1624
[07:04] <Guest74778> Does that help?
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest74778: if you run my command, is it in the output?
[07:05] <soreau> wmnd: On most systems you can set the boot order but also optionally hit a key when it boots to manually see and select which options there are to boot from
[07:05] <wmnd> ActionParsnip, Universal USB Installer
[07:05] <wmnd> soreau, oh... I did not know that, I'm going to google for it
[07:05] <llutz_> lorddelta: have a look at your udev-rules too
[07:06] <soreau> Guest74778: When you put a cd in the drive, does it show up in 'Places' or nautilus?
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> Wmnd: cool. Try F11 of F12 at boot, may let you select the boot drive
[07:07] <soreau> wmnd: Usually it will tell you what key to hit on the bios splash screen
[07:07] <Guest74778> Soreau: No.  Not in places.  i'm not sure what nautilus is.
[07:07] <Guest74778> ActionParsnip: Is that one command, or two separated at the ; ?
 Guest74778: does it show in: sudo lshw -C drive; sudo lshw -C disk <-- what about this?
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> Guest74778: Yeah.  Oddly enough, 4 out of 4 Newegg reviewers say it worked out of the box in Ubuntu just fine.
[07:07] <soreau> Guest74778: nautilus is also a terminal command
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Guest74778: run it as I gave it please
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> make that 5
[07:08] <lorddelta> llutz_: thnx
[07:09] <Guest74778> It asked for a password, then looked like it was loading, and then returned to the command line, with no output.
[07:10] <wmnd> ok rebooting lets see, thanks guys
[07:10] <Guest74778> Oh, wait.
[07:10] <Guest74778> I made a typo
[07:10] <Guest74778> trying again.
[07:10] <theTwiz> can anyone help me with creating a raid0 array? mdadm keeps returning /dev/sdc1 is not suitable for this array
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> Guest74778: did you copy/paste the command? Should show your Hdd at least
[07:10] <soreau> wmnd: Usually if the usb stick is not bootable, it wont show in the list (and wont boot obviously)
[07:11] <lanc3r> where can i find a list of regular chat servers?
[07:11] <soreau> lanc3r: searchirc.com IIRC
[07:11] <Guest74778> It showed my external hard drive and my internal hard drives one.
[07:11] <Guest74778> only*
[07:12] <Guest74778> It didn't show the Disk drive
[07:13] <soreau> Guest74778: Which version of ubuntu are you using?
[07:13] <Guest74778> 11.04 (64 bit)
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest74778: try:  dmesg | grep -i lit
[07:16] <Guest74778> 0.000000] Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on.  Total pages: 3091806
[07:16] <Guest74778> [    1.196391] UDP-Lite hash table entries: 8192 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
[07:16] <Guest74778> [    1.835725] BIOS EDD facility v0.16 2004-Jun-25, 0 devices found
[07:16] <Guest74778> [   35.396274] Registered led device: rt2800pci-phy0::quality
[07:16] <Guest74778> [   35.396684] rt2860sta: module is from the staging directory, the quality is unknown, you have been warned.
[07:16] <FloodBot1> Guest74778: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:16] <Guest74778> [   54.680467] warning: `VirtualBox' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use)
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest74778: or:   dmesg | grep -i sr0
[07:17] <soreau> ActionParsnip: I think he might be saying it's not recognized in virtualbox..
[07:17] <soreau> in which case he'd need to enable it in the settings
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Guest74778: wait, is ubuntu running in a virtualbox?
[07:17] <Guest74778> No
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Soreau: great minds
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Ah
[07:18] <Guest74778> No, I have Ubuntu installed in parallel with Windows 7.
[07:18] <soreau> Guest74778: Does /dev/sr0 or sr1 exist?
[07:18] <Guest74778> I'm trying to run Windows 7 in a virtual box while signed into Ubuntu.
[07:19] <maxillusionist> so wats the prob man,you could do that easily
[07:19] <maxillusionist> else try vmware
[07:19] <maxillusionist> indeed a good option
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Guest74778: what is the output of:  file /dev/cdrom
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> maxillusionist: its not a virtual OS
[07:19] <nyuszika7h> !cdrom
[07:19] <Guest74778> ERROR: Cannot open '/dev/cdrom' (No such file or directory)
[07:20] <nyuszika7h> /dev/cdrom is deprecated
[07:20] <soreau> Guest74778: Try file /dev/cdrom<tab>
[07:20] <maxillusionist> man he is trying to run the os in vm so wht does it mean
[07:20] <nyuszika7h> !/dev/cdrom
[07:20] <maxillusionist> 8)
[07:20] <soreau> Guest74778: or file /dev/sr<tab><tab>
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Guest74778: is it a SATA drive rather than PATA
[07:20] <nyuszika7h> !cdrom is <reply> /dev/cdrom is
[07:20] <nyuszika7h> fail
[07:20] <Guest74778> Yes, I believe it is SATA
[07:20] <soreau> ! cdrom
[07:21] <nyuszika7h> !cdrom is <reply> /dev/cdrom is deprecated. Use /dev/srx (usually sr0) instead.
[07:21] <nyuszika7h> That is forwarded to -ops
[07:21] <soreau> sr* maybe would be better
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest74778: bingo. Set the controller to IDE mode and it'll be ok
[07:22] <Guest74778> I'm completely lost.  Lol, if you guys gave me another command, could you repeat it
[07:22] <Guest74778> Okay, how do I do that?
[07:22] <soreau> Guest74778: Does /dev/sr0 exist? (or sr1?)
[07:22] <nyuszika7h> Ops can review and improve it
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> Guest74778: in bios
[07:22] <soreau> ActionParsnip: He said it works in the win7 install on the same machine
[07:22] <nyuszika7h> There is no approve command iirc, they just tell the bot the same, maybe modify it a bit
[07:23] <Guest74778> No.  Neither exists.
[07:23] <soreau> Guest74778: Well try what ActionParsnip said in your system bios settings
[07:23] <maxillusionist> can anyone tell me the disadvantage of running irc as root
[07:23] <soreau> maxillusionist: It's a security risk for one thing
[07:24] <nyuszika7h> Also, I don't know which version deprecated it, as it has been long time since I last used Ubuntu.
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> soreau: don't care what windows does. Some sata drives do
[07:24] <Guest74778> Well, I say it works.  It worked to install Windows 7 from the bios menu.  I don't know for sure if windows 7 reads it or not, not that I think about it.  Should I reboot in win7 and see if it will read a dvd?
[07:24] <nyuszika7h> !search root
[07:24] <soreau> maxillusionist: Not directly related to ubuntu though, try #freenode
[07:24] <nyuszika7h> !noroot
[07:24] <JokesOnYou77> maxillusionist: when I hack you through your IRC connection I'll have admin privileges :)
[07:24] <Guest74778> okay, and to be clear, to get to bios settings?
[07:24] <nyuszika7h> That's not that
[07:24] <ubuntu_> no-one's active in +1, so I was curious if anyone here could comment of beta2's stability right now. Is it "OK" for something like a secretary's workstation right now?
[07:24] <maxillusionist> jokesonyou77
[07:24] <maxillusionist> do it now
[07:24] <maxillusionist> i am running on root
[07:24] <maxillusionist> 8)
[07:25] <JokesOnYou77> I'm real busy
[07:25] <soreau> ActionParsnip: Yea, I'm not really familiar with sata cdrom drives but the ones I have used have worked OOTB on linux
[07:25] <llutz_> maxillusionist: you are a her0
[07:25] <JokesOnYou77> ...joseph
[07:25] <nyuszika7h> !crossposting | ubuntu_
[07:25] <maxillusionist> or you can't find the code
[07:25] <maxillusionist> you script kiddie
[07:25] <maxillusionist> 8)
[07:25] <maxillusionist> no insult there
[07:25] <maxillusionist> sorry
[07:25] <auronandace> ubuntu_: think it through, it isn't officially released until it is stable
[07:25] <stillParsnip> Soreau: don't play nice in Linux, the interface can be set to appear as a pata controller and work.
[07:26] <maxillusionist> hey why the softwares are sold via ubuntu software center
[07:26] <maxillusionist> its not fair
[07:26] <stillParsnip> Damn blackspots :-(
[07:26] <maxillusionist> ubuntu is gnu right
[07:26] <llutz_> stillParsnip: theres definetly no problem with sata drives by default
[07:26] <nyuszika7h> yes, GNU/Linux
[07:26] <maxillusionist> gnu's not unix and softwares should be free
[07:26] <nyuszika7h> I think moxt (if not all) software are free.
[07:26] <auronandace> !enter | maxillusionist
[07:27] <stillParsnip> llutz_: worth exploring
[07:27] <soreau> stillParsnip: lol@your nick
[07:27] <maxillusionist> any programmer here??
[07:27] <nyuszika7h> !cross-posting is <alias> crossposting
[07:27] <stillParsnip> Soreau: yeah my nick is 'in use' and I'm lazy
[07:27] <nyuszika7h> !ask | maxillusionist
[07:27] <nyuszika7h> but ye
[07:27] <nyuszika7h> er
[07:28] <nyuszika7h> (I'm a programmer)
[07:28] <stillParsnip> nyuszika7h: you are doing it wro
[07:28] <stillParsnip> Ng
[07:28] <nyuszika7h> why?
[07:28] <maxillusionist> what wrong
[07:29] <stillParsnip> nyuszika7h: an example would be:  /msg ubottu !beer is Beer is a tasty beverage
[07:29]  * RaTTuS|BIG Gives e-bree to an example would be: /msg ubottu !beer is Beer is a tasty beverage
[07:29] <nyuszika7h> !private > maxillusionist
[07:29] <nyuszika7h> stillParsnip: nipe
[07:29] <nyuszika7h> nope*
[07:29] <stillParsnip> Not creepy at all
[07:29] <nyuszika7h> learn how to use Enyclopedia
 !foo is foo is bar
[07:30] <stillParsnip> nyuszika7h: that's how you add factoids
[07:30] <Guest74778> Okay guys, I'm off to try to change the bios setting.  Wish me luck. =D
 I'll remember that, you
[07:30] <nyuszika7h> eh, I better don't flood
[07:30] <maxillusionist> ubottu can you chat with me via PM
[07:30] <stillParsnip> nyuszika7h: nothing to do with encyclopedias at all
[07:30] <maxillusionist> 8)
[07:30] <nyuszika7h> no that is not how you add them
[07:30] <maxillusionist> then
[07:31] <ubuntu_> I qam so deathly tired of 6 month release schedules....
[07:31] <stillParsnip> nyuszika7h: then why are you spamming the channel with nonsense?
[07:31] <Myrtti> move on guys
[07:31] <llutz_> weekend = trolltime
[07:31] <maxillusionist> cool still parsnip
[07:31] <ubuntu_> All I need is the latest kernel without breaking everything...
[07:31] <maxillusionist> no big deal
[07:32] <stillParsnip> Ubuntu_: stick to LTS then...