[04:25] <re432> !ops
[04:26] <re432> !ops
[04:26] <re432> !ops
[04:26] <re432> !ops
[04:49] <strew43> !ops
[04:52] <strew43> !ops
[04:53] <Flannel> strew43: Please stop that.  Thanks.
[04:55] <strew43> ok
[04:55] <strew43> sorry


[10:48] <\sh> benc: please fix wlan connection for atheros for feisty pls ;)
[10:50] <\sh> 2.6.20-9 worked and -15 doesn't work :(
[11:10] <Nafallo> \sh: a bit late to say that now. isn't it? :-)
[11:11] <\sh> Nafallo, there was a bug report...and I didn't update my r200 since 2.6.20-9 because of no time :(
[11:11] <\sh> actually there _is_ a bug report :)
[11:12] <Nafallo> :-)
[11:13] <Nafallo> -ENOTIME seems to be a common issue :-/
[11:13] <\sh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/96754
[11:13] <Nafallo> with no obvious fix or work-around.
[11:13] <\sh> reported   2007-03-27
[11:22] <\sh> Nafallo, well, it's a regression from -9 to >-9
[11:23] <\sh> I ran into it yesterday evening...:( good that I had -9 still in my bootable kernel list ;)
[11:38] <abogani> ..."The gutsy build system was rewritten from the ground up, to mainly exclude kernel-package, since it was getting too heavy and restrictive for the kernels builds."... I'm very happy to hear this! :-)
[11:38] <abogani> BenC: Could i disturb you with a couple of questions?
[11:47] <abogani> Are there other Ubuntu Kernel Team members that can reply to a couple of question about my specification (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime) ?
[11:57] <maks_> abogani: lots of 2.6.20 floating around :-P
[12:02] <abogani> maks_: I understand, sorry.
[12:04] <AnAnt> Hello, I think there is problem in new kernel
[12:04] <AnAnt> I can't set the DMA to be ON for cd writer
[12:04] <AnAnt> I did sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/scd0
[12:05] <AnAnt> so I got: HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[01:11] <zdzichuBG> anant: why do you think DMA is off?
[01:32] <Amaranth> zdzichuBG: He left :)
[01:32] <Amaranth> zdzichuBG: Is it on by default for PATA devices?
[03:05] <roh> morning
[03:16] <roh> i seem to hit a strange ext3 problem once more latelz
[03:17] <roh> eh y
[03:17] <roh> this time on a thinkpad T60 which after clean shutdown had a nonclean ext3 afterwards which i was unable to mount anymore
[03:25] <roh> fsck is running > 12 hours now (the disk says its good, no io errors at all, smart passes, no moved blocks)
[05:00] <enseven> Hi! I've got a question about redhat cluster in ubuntu kernel.
[05:03] <enseven> In linux-source-2.6.15 there is a subdir "cluster" and in .config there is CLUSTER, CLUSTER_DLM, CLUSTER_DLM_PROCLOCKS. Where have they gone in linux-source-2.6.20 ?
[05:07] <zul> ubuntu/ directory I think
[05:14] <enseven> No, there is no "cluster" in ubuntu/.
[05:15] <enseven> Is there a patch to apply redhat cluster to ubuntu kernel 2.6.20?
[05:15] <fabbione> enseven: no... but the cluster is all there
[05:15] <fabbione> enseven: most of the modules have kernel modules are now userland
[05:16] <fabbione> enseven: only gfs2/gfs1 and dlm kernel modules are required
[05:16] <fabbione> dlm/gfs2 is from upstream.. so in fs/
[05:16] <fabbione> gfs1 is in ubuntu/fs/
[05:16] <fabbione> enseven: also note that gfs2 is still eXPERIMENTAL and not ready for production
[05:18] <enseven> fabbione: Is there cman, too? Or is it obsolete?
[05:20] <fabbione> cman -> userland
[05:26] <enseven> If I change from 2.6.15 -> 2.6.20, do I need new redhat-cluster-suite? Newer than 1.20060222-0ubuntu6?
[05:32] <zul> *sigh* http://xenbits.xensource.com/kernels/
[05:33] <fabbione> enseven: yes
[05:34] <fabbione> enseven: you will need the very latest from feisty
[05:36] <enseven> Ok, I'm going to try that. Thanx.
[05:36] <fabbione> enseven: you will need heaps of Depends backported
[05:36] <fabbione> i am not sure it's worth the trouble
[05:36] <fabbione> some of them might not even build in dapper
[05:36] <fabbione> and i won't be able to support you
[05:37] <fabbione> enseven: what's the reason why you want .20 anyway?
[05:37] <enseven> Ohh, not so easy as I thougt?!
[05:37] <fabbione> no it's not easy
[05:38] <fabbione> if you already have a cluster running, you will need to fix the configuration too
[05:38] <enseven> I have got a problem with GFS and Samba. So I wanted to find out if it is still there in .20.
[05:39] <fabbione> enseven: understood
[05:39] <enseven> The problem is not real bad, but it is uncomfortable.
[05:39] <fabbione> what kind of problem are you seeing?
[05:40] <fabbione> how many nodes are in the cluster?
[05:40] <fabbione> (also.. #linux-cluster here might be better help if it's an upstream issue)
[05:42] <enseven> I have a samba share with acls on gfs. When I change attributes of a directory from a windows client, I get am error message: Access denied! But then the changes are applied when I cancel.
[05:42] <fabbione> hmm interesting
[05:43] <enseven> This does not happen with files and it does only happen with gfs, not with ext3.
[05:45] <fabbione> i can't see anything in the cvs changelog related to samba
[05:45] <fabbione> if the cluster is only 2 nodes, you can perhaps stop the cluster, make one node feisty and see
[05:45] <fabbione> make it feisty with a spare disk or something along the line
[05:45] <fabbione> just for testing
[05:45] <fabbione> it's probably faster than backporting the * for testing
[05:49] <enseven> fabbione: It is a 3 node cluster, but I could stop the cluster, make one node feisty and then say cman_tool expect -e 1 to run the services with one node only
[05:50] <enseven> btw: it is a virtual machine so spare disks are no problem.
[06:11] <enseven> thanx
[06:26] <bdmurray> BenC: Have you seen any PS2 mouse bugs like 108350?
[06:29] <BenC> bdmurray: I hadn't heard anything, but I can honestly say I don't have a real ps2 mouse to test with
[06:30] <bdmurray> BenC: I tested on one system here and didn't have an issue
[06:30] <BenC> ps2 is so basic, I can't understand it having problems
[06:42] <roh> hm... are there any known ext3-issues with recent feisty kernels or anything that would break a fs on blocklevel? i'm on a TP60p here. 100gb sata on ahci at ICH7
[06:52] <johanbr> roh: There were a few bugs like that, but I think they were fixed in the final Feisty kernel.
[06:56] <roh> johanbr i installed with the beta 2 days before the release and everythin was quite fine. yesterday midday i shut down the note cleanly and stashed it away. in the evening the X11 didn't come up because of something not writeable and the kernel trew some kind of hci/usb errors. then i rebootet cleanly and it came up without its rootfs ... it sayd "#fragments of group too big" and mount failed with invalid argument
[06:57] <roh> currently i'm typing this with an edgy bootcd since the initrd of feisty didn't bring me fsck, and the hw is working fine (fresh lenovo T60p (8741-J3G))
[07:00] <johanbr> roh: Probably this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/82314
[07:00] <roh> fsck couln't find the superblock/meant it is corrupted. fsck -n -v on the fs ran through in about 100minutes so i started it without -n... since then i'm waiting for it to finish (> 15h now)
[07:01] <johanbr> Ouch.
[07:02] <roh> i gave it the second superblock which it accepted. just now it takes for ages and spits out zillions of multiply-claimed blocks in multiple files
[07:02] <roh> johanbr the disk i'm working on with that fs is sda via ahci. no pata. native sata
[07:05] <roh> also ich7 chipsel, no via in thinkpads
[07:05] <johanbr> roh: I'm not sure, but it's possible the problem is with drives with hpa in general, not just pata.
[07:06] <roh> what does hpa exactly do? i deactivated all that rescue-foo in the bios and used the whole disc.
[07:07] <johanbr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host_Protected_Area
[07:10] <roh> uh.. shouln't the bios switch that off completely as soon as i disable the rescue-foo and make it visible?
[07:11] <johanbr> Don't know.
[07:12] <roh> any idea how to check if that is indeed the cause of my problem?
[07:13] <johanbr> Try the release kernel and see if you get any corruption. :)
[07:16] <roh> good joke. i do not have any other (free) 2.5" sata disks left
[07:23] <roh> *sigh* .. as more i read about hpa and "rescue" s_it as more i feel the sudden urge to burn some companys to the ground...
[07:37] <johanbr> roh: If there's nothing important on the disk, it's probably easiest just to reformat, reinstall the final Feisty release and play with it for a while.
[07:39] <roh> i have to check first what i moved and what i copied from the old disk (had a dapper on t60 before) but i have to give that machine back soon (old bosses(
[08:13] <roh> uh.. fsck is still continuing and making progress... 77% it sayd... if that runs through and i do not loose this install i will propably use ext based fs till i die %-]
[09:02] <zul> BenC: ping
[09:02] <BenC> zul: yo
[09:03] <zul> BenC: have you heard of X-windows crashing with nvidia and the mouse not able to be accessible with the scroll-wheel?
[09:03] <BenC> zul: not specifically those things, no
[09:03] <zul> okie dokie
[09:04] <zul> good luck on your thingy today
[09:09] <roh> ieks "XXX should never happen!!!"
[09:36] <johanbr> roh: fsck finished yet?
[10:54] <h4wk0> On the subject of my  question in #ubuntu-classroom - Ive been pushed her
[10:55] <JanC> h4wk0: wait until after the classroom session  :)
[10:55] <h4wk0> How come my ATI X1300 require an extra little fix
[10:55] <h4wk0> Ok
[11:01] <joebaker> Hi BenC
[11:01] <j1mc> hi BenC:  QUESTION: What new features are you anticipating being integrated with the newer versions of the kernel, and which are you most excited about?  =)
[11:01] <BenC> I'm taking 10 minutes for a break...brb to answer your questions
[11:01] <joebaker> Thanks!  It was neat to hear about the challenges you face.
[11:01] <j1mc> Thanks, BenC
[11:02] <alienSkull> Thanks Ben
[11:06] <joebaker> I have a laptop which only has the max RAM capacity of 192mb.  I'd like it to be able to access RAM in a server as swap over ethernet?
[11:08] <joebaker> I know the LTSP project has been swapping over Ethernet to server disk space for years and that they've recently changed to something called ltspfs.  Yet I see this as beneficial to more than just thin clients.
[11:08] <el_isma> Is it really that fast over disk swap?
[11:09] <h4wk0> From my opinion - I dont think it will!
[11:11] <alienSkull> well you would need to compare gigabit ethernet with harddrive IO speeds right?
[11:11] <h4wk0> extensive benchmarking will be needed
[11:12] <BenC> joebaker: I've heard that nbd (network block device) can be used for swap
[11:12] <alienSkull> if the speeds do turn out in its favor I think it would have great applications in thin clients
[11:12] <el_isma> what's the typical harddrive latency?
[11:12] <joebaker> Benc  Thanks.  Yes, that's what LTSP used to use.
[11:13] <BenC> h4wk0: can you paste your URL again please?
[11:13] <h4wk0> Sure
[11:13] <h4wk0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=399913
[11:13] <h4wk0> I am not the creator of the thread, however have the same problem (I am using ATI x1300)
[11:14] <h4wk0> And it worked perfectly on Herd 2
[11:14] <BenC> h4wk0: I've have your exact model of laptop here and i see the same problem. The main issue is that the ati xorg driver doesn't support the chipset, and the ATI vesa BIOS is broken. But we are doing some tests on work arounds
[11:14] <BenC> h4wk0: in the mean time, using fglrx is the best way (using an alternate CD install)
[11:15] <BenC> livecd wont work at the moment
[11:15] <h4wk0> Well if you need anything testing
[11:15] <h4wk0> <--
[11:15] <BenC> thanks, will do
[11:15] <h4wk0> Havent tried alertnate cd yet :P (Had to pop out and know ive got side tracked with tv)
[11:18] <joebaker> Swapping against remote ram:  I think if it is built that applications will come to it.  Well there now the idea has been planted.  It's time for me to go.  Thanks again for the wonderful presentation Benc.
[11:18] <roh> johanbr it exitet with the above error...
[11:19] <BenC> joebaker: np, thank you for participating
[11:24] <roh> ah.. and "Directory inode 8093697 has an unallocated block #3.  Allocate<y>?" makes it do that
[11:25] <roh> if i say no there it continues till the end
[11:41] <johanbr> roh: Hmm. Are most of your files intact?
[11:54] <roh> johanbr will see.. i want to dd it to an image before doing anything else (just got a big usbdisk)
[12:01] <h4wk> Right time to install on laptop


[00:36] <jake__> Hello, how can I replace windows and use only Ubuntu?
[00:39] <ad3pt> Hi. 1. Install Ubuntu. 2. Use it :)
[00:40] <jake__> No, I mean I want Ubuntu to consume Windows as an os.
[00:41] <jake__> Harddrive space is my issue.
[00:42] <ad3pt> You can install Ubuntu on space where now Windows installed
[00:43] <jake__> It will provide an option to replace windows and the current version of ubuntu?
[01:12] <ad3pt> jake__, you can make any partitioning that you want
[01:14] <Guest41842> Thanks ad3pt that's what I need.
[05:10] <NateJones> Hi everyone.. I would like to stop internet traffic if I get disconnected from the VPN... I'm getting an error explained on the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5709554/  what can I do to solve it?
[05:12] <valorie> NateJones: this chan has been really quiet tonight (Sunday night here)
[05:12] <valorie> you might have better luck in #ubuntu -- since you have a general question
[05:12] <NateJones> I tried lol
[05:13] <valorie> ie, not kubuntu specific
[05:13] <valorie> ah
[05:13] <NateJones> seems no one knows :(
[05:13] <valorie> seems sort of like a sysadmin question
[05:14] <NateJones> yeah haha and this is the response I've got from #openvpn: The error is becuase the OS is preventing the packet from being sent. I suggest learning how to use your firewall. I don't deal with crappy frontends to network configuration; try an ubuntu-centric forum if you want to use netfilter without understanding it, but I don't really condone that
[05:14] <valorie> unfortunately the ubuntu sysadmins don't hang out in a public chan that I know of
[05:14] <valorie> how friendly
[05:14] <valorie> geez
[05:15] <NateJones> lol yeah
[05:15] <NateJones> hahahahaha
[05:16] <valorie> let's try
[05:16] <valorie> !firewall
[05:17] <valorie> iptables might be what you want?
[05:17] <NateJones> yeah.. I was using ufw but probably I will disable it and try with iptables
[05:17] <valorie> or reading up on ufw, at least
[05:18] <valorie> be careful with that -- it's really powerful
[05:18] <NateJones> yeah but my logic (which seems to be wrong) told me that I just needed to allow all traffic out from tun0 , allow port 53 udp that I use to connect to openvpn
[05:18] <NateJones> but probably I need to add more rules
[05:20] <valorie> the help.ubuntu.com pages are usually complete and reliabel
[05:20] <valorie> reliable
[05:20] <valorie> and well-tested
[05:22] <NateJones> yeah valorie
[05:22] <NateJones> I will keep searching
[05:23] <NateJones> :) thanks for your support :) see you!!!!
[05:24] <noaXess> morning
[07:23] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:43] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:07] <noaXess> hey BluesKaj
[11:07] <noaXess> silent today ;)
[11:08] <BluesKaj> quiet yes
[11:08] <ovidiu-florin> hello world :D
[11:09] <lordievader> Hey noaXess, ovidiu-florin
[11:10] <ovidiu-florin> hey lordievader
[11:10] <noaXess> hey lordievader
[11:10] <ovidiu-florin> how are you ?
[11:11] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: I'm doing good, thank you for asking. How are you?
[11:11] <ovidiu-florin> great
[11:11] <ovidiu-florin> I've just turned 22 :D
[11:12] <noaXess> hey.. so ovidiu-florin happy birthday.. young man ;)
[11:12] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Congratulations!
[11:12] <OerHeks> \o/
[11:13] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[11:27] <ovidiu-florin> I've built kdepim and I'm trying to test some things, but I've noticed that this kmail allready has some of the settings from the system kmail. why is that? how can I set it to have it's own settings?
[11:49] <noaXess> how can i modify this command so i don't get: bash .... event not found
[11:49] <noaXess> env WINEPREFIX="/home/thomi/.wine.AVM" wine C:\\windows\\command\\start.exe /Unix /home/thomi/.wine.AVM/dosdevices/c:/users/thomi/Start\ Menu/Programs/FRITZ!Fernzugang/FRITZ!Fernzugang\ einrichten.lnk
[11:49] <noaXess> seams the ! in the command line does make problems
[11:50] <adel_> hi
[11:50] <noaXess> on another system exact the same command does work ?
[11:50] <hateball> noaXess: escape the ! with \
[11:51] <hateball> so it's fritz\!fre...
[11:51] <noaXess> hateball: yeah..
[11:51] <noaXess> any idea, why on the other system it works w/o escaping?
[11:52] <noaXess> now this.. err:module:import_dll Library mfc90.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\FRITZ!Fernzugang einrichten\\VPNAdmin.exe") not found..
[11:52] <noaXess> hm..
[11:52] <noaXess> is there any bash setting to escape special chars automatically?
[11:52] <noaXess> need to go.. bbs
[11:52] <noaXess> afk.
[13:20] <noaXess> back
[13:20] <noaXess> hateball: any other ideay.. about.. event not found and escaping ! chars?
[13:23] <lordievader> noaXess: Putting the command between "" might work.
[13:23] <lordievader> Well the problem argument, that is.
[13:24] <e_t_> Actually, single quotes would probably be better. Text in double quotes is still expanded.
[13:26] <noaXess> lordievader: not really.. also single quotes.
[13:26] <noaXess> seams a bash history configuration.. set +o histexpand dot the trick
[13:31] <BluesKaj> !efi
[13:32] <BluesKaj> !EFI
[13:33] <BluesKaj> guess the bots are just waking up :)
[13:33] <noaXess> BluesKaj: oh.... UEFI. or just bot test ;)
[13:33] <monkeyjuice> they need more coffee
[14:26] <bjrohan> http://www.fcdallas.com/
[14:26] <bjrohan> oops
[14:26] <bjrohan> sorry
[14:27] <FloodBotK1> bjrohan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:27] <bjrohan> I am using Kate as my python editor (at which I am new). When I write a function for example, Kate will space the lines appropriately, however when I want the next line to not be spaced say 4 spaces, I have to hit the backspace key 4 times, is there a setting so that when I go to the next line, I can hit backspace once and it removes the 4 spaces
[15:27] <naftilos76> hi everyone, has anybody experimented with xmegas' max adc frequency?
[15:27] <naftilos76> The manual says max 2MHz or 1/4 of the main clock source.
[15:28] <naftilos76> If the main clock source is set to 32MHz then the 1/4 is 8MHz.
[15:28] <naftilos76> Which is the absolute max? 2MHz no matter what ?
[15:28] <naftilos76> Can anybody help?
[15:29] <naftilos76> Sorry, wrong channel!
[16:00] <prasad> hello all, when i run matlab through my terminal i get a dbus error but it runs fine. When i set up a .desktop file , the application does not run after the splash screen
[16:03] <prasad> hello all, when i run matlab through my terminal i get a dbus error but it runs fine. When i set up a .desktop file , the application does not run after the splash screen
[16:24] <liudas> hello everyone, i'd like express multi respect for developers for: really nice splash (finally), kubuntu now so far is the only distro that out of the box manages correctly laptop brightness (no need to hack kernel boot options on my own), speed + speed + speed :)
[16:26] <OerHeks> :-)
[16:27] <smartboyhw> liudas: For the splash, thank apachelogger
[16:28] <smartboyhw> :)
[16:29] <Artakha> the splash theme is indeed really nice
[16:29] <liudas> one thing left to reach perfection :) = to apply custom cursor theme (downloaded via manager) still need to hang with: 'update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme' manually
[16:30] <liudas> all in all - increadible, even boot manager entries written correctly = Kubuntu GNU/Linux (respect for GNU + Kubuntu)
[16:31] <liudas> many missinterprets linux with gnu/linux
[16:31] <liudas> nice
[17:41] <cthulukitty> hi, I was hoping somone might be able to help with an installation question or two?
[17:45] <lordievader> cthulukitty: It depends ;) what are you having problems with?
[18:49] <meteorrock_> hi everyone
[18:50] <meteorrock_> anyone  here?
[18:50] <rsaw> yeah
[18:51] <meteorrock_> do  you have some development skills?
[18:52] <meteorrock_> I need help with with my theme here in the kde  looks.org
[18:53] <meteorrock_> let me get the link for you guys
[18:54] <meteorrock_> brb
[18:55] <rsaw> Not a developer, sorry.
[18:56] <meteorrock_> ok. let me  go     ahead for someone recording logs here
[18:57] <meteorrock_> its  the fritz look theme for the knights chess app
[18:57] <rsaw> sure. Sorry I can't be helpful on this one. I'm a Networking/Security person.
[18:59] <meteorrock_> I went through the xml code for this app and I am stumped
[19:00] <meteorrock_> followed the readme.themes to the letter
[19:00] <Quintasan> meteorrock_: TBH you would probably have more success in #kde-devel, not that I mind if you ask here as well
[19:01] <meteorrock_> thanks  quintasan
[19:01] <Quintasan> not that I offered any help but you're welcome :)
[19:01] <meteorrock_> let me change channnels then. have a  nice day you guys
[19:02] <rsaw> you too.
[19:03] <meteorrock_> just in   case...  here is the link for anyone interested  in my project http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Fritz+look?content=157848
[19:03] <meteorrock_> see you. :) bye
[19:11] <ope557> join #alt.binaries.teevee
[22:09] <LogicallyDashing> I'm trying to get pulseaudio to attach a source to two sinks. I think I have to use pacat for this but I'm not sure how exactly


[05:58] <LuitvD> hi, I'm donating my MSI MS-1058 to Gutsy for a while soon :)
[05:58] <LuitvD> (just created a page for my device)
[05:59] <LuitvD> (MSIMegabookS271)
[06:15] <LuitvD> any of you have some tips for me when I do this?


[07:57] <skOre> I mainly just need a good introduction to Synaptic, since it won't work for me (linux noob)
[07:57] <skOre> I search for kde, kubuntu and kubuntu-desktop and it won't show anything
[07:57] <Seantater> davix: after the command (to the right), type in a > and then the path to the file
[07:58] <Seantater> skOre: I'm not sure I have that mcuh time
[07:58] <skOre> :)
[07:58] <Seantater> skOre: I use adept
[07:58] <skOre> is that in ubuntu?
[07:58] <Seantater> skOre: The commands line interfaces for package managemant are not that hard though
[07:59] <Seantater> skOre, I think so, but it's intended for Kubuntu, not Ubuntu
[07:59] <skOre> got a good tutorial to point me to?
[07:59] <skOre> Seantater: ah well, so it won't work for me yet ;)
[07:59] <Seantater> skOre, you might try looking through linux.about.com and debian.org
[07:59] <wiskzito> why i dont have the command kedit listed im my options here at command line?
[07:59] <Seantater> wiskzito, you will need to install it
[08:00] <wiskzito> from apt?
[08:00] <Seantater> to see available commands, do "dir /usr/bin" with no quotes in a CLI
[08:00] <Seantater> wiskzito: yes
[08:00] <wiskzito> ok, thx
[08:00] <skOre> Seantater: thanks however, will try my best :)
[08:00] <Seantater> jindiaz: Still going?
[08:00] <Seantater> skOre: I can give you a few points
[08:01] <skOre> Seantater: I also tried suod apt-get, but it would all the time report that it wouldn't find my package
[08:01] <Seantater> skOre: for example, try the above with no quotes "apt-cache search kedit"
[08:01] <skOre> Seantater sudo that is
[08:01] <jindiaz> Seantater: yah man, shes still chugging away.  i just reeally hope its going to the right partition
[08:02] <Seantater> skOre: "Don't worry, if something went wrong, it went wrong quite a while ago
[08:02] <Seantater> Sorry, not skOre, jindiaz
[08:02] <Seantater> I'm not good with names
[08:02] <skOre> :)
[08:03] <skOre> Its quite a fresh install
[08:03] <Seantater> there the latter in a terminal: apt-cache --help; apt-get --help; dpkg --help
[08:04] <Seantater> skOre: Be warned, apt is good and bad sometimes
[08:04] <Seantater> :-)
[08:04] <skOre> heh
[08:04] <wiskzito> anyone know how to install a webcam, i found some tutorials, but didnt work for me
[08:04] <skOre> if I downloaded a package (a tar-bz2 that is), how can I install that?
[08:04] <Seantater> wiskzito: not me...
[08:05] <Seantater> skOre; with danger
[08:05] <Seantater> skOre; Install kinstaller
[08:05] <Seantater> skOre; and kompile first
[08:05] <Seantater> skOre: and along with that, build-essential
[08:06] <wiskzito> thx Seantater
[08:07] <skOre> can't I just make it into an autopackage? :)
[08:07] <skOre> that I can install
[08:07] <kettenschutz> hi there
[08:07] <Seantater> skOre, not unless you made the package
[08:07] <kettenschutz> i've gotta problem here with my kubuntu installation
[08:07] <jindiaz> Seantater: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[08:07] <Seantater> skOre, autopackage-ing is not easy
[08:07] <jindiaz> Seantater: it worked man!
[08:07] <Seantater> jindiaz: Good!
[08:08] <jindiaz> thanks a million man!!!!!!!
[08:08] <Seantater> jindiaz: I;m feeling all warm and fizzy inside :-P
[08:08] <jindiaz> as soon as it got to the grub point and recognized xp, all was well
[08:08] <jindiaz> hahahahahahaha
[08:08] <Seantater> not fizzy, fuzzy
[08:08] <jindiaz> lol
[08:08] <skOre> Seantater: damn
[08:08] <jindiaz> me 2 man, so happy to get my primary pc onto linux.. finally
[08:08] <Seantater> skOre, have you installed thosepackages
[08:09] <jindiaz> sadly.... need xp for games..
[08:09] <skOre> I did install inkscape with it
[08:09] <Seantater> skOre, It;s not that hard to compile a package, it just needs the above-mentioned tools
[08:09] <Seantater> skOre, with
[08:09] <skOre> so kinstaller?
[08:10] <Seantater> jindiaz: glad I could help :-)
[08:10] <Seantater> skOre: yes, kinstaller, kompile; and build-essential
[08:11] <ciga> hi
[08:11] <skOre> Seantater: and how would I install these? :)
[08:11] <Seantater> skOre, using synaptic, apt, or adept
[08:12] <skOre> apt-get always tells me it wont find the package
[08:12] <Seantater> skOre, You'll probably find what you are trying to compile there too
[08:12] <ciga> I try to suspend my box, but I got 'apm: busy: Unable to enter requested state'. Any idea how to fix?
[08:12] <skOre> I guess so
[08:12] <Seantater> skOre, using apt-cache search, not apt-get
[08:12] <Seantater> ciga: try doing that with sudo
[08:13] <Seantater> ciga: AKA: run it as root
[08:13] <ciga> Seantater: yes, I do it with root
[08:13] <skOre> so when I input: sudo apt-cache search scribus
[08:13] <skOre> it will just jump to the next line doing nothing
[08:13] <Seantater> skOre: sudo is unnecessary, you can do it as a normal user
[08:13] <Seantater> skOre: do "sudo apt-get update" just before that
[08:14] <skOre> same thing
[08:14] <Seantater> skOre: Go into /etc/apt/sources.list, and enable the "universe" repository
[08:14] <skOre> uh, and how would I accomplish such a fancy thing? :D
[08:14] <strange_ghost> ~dapper
[08:15] <Seantater> skOre: "kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:15] <Seantater> strange_ghost: ?
[08:15] <skOre> skOre: bash: kate: command not found
[08:15] <Seantater> skOre: or for gnome: "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:16] <Seantater> skOre: How long have you used Linux?
[08:16] <ciga> hi
[08:16] <strange_ghost> Seantater: Are there aptget sources to upgrade kubuntu to dapper?
[08:16] <Seantater> ciga: hellop again
[08:17] <Seantater> strange_ghost: Yes, just open /etc/apt/sources.list, and change every place that says breezy to dapper
[08:17] <skOre> on and off a couple occasions, but I'm still a full fledged noob
[08:17] <Seantater> strange_ghost: Then type apt-get update
[08:17] <ciga> I do it like this: 'sudo apm --suspend'. My monitor switches off, but after a little time it turns on again, but my keyboard does not respond until I restart X.
[08:17] <Seantater> strange_ghost: Then type apt-get upgrade
[08:17] <Seantater> strange_ghost: Then restart
[08:18] <Seantater> ciga: Google it, I do not know that much about it
[08:18] <strange_ghost> Seantater: OK, I will try that. Was a little different for Ubuntu (just needed to get one package and then run upgrade). Thanks
[08:19] <jindiaz> Seantater: bad news man... after a stunning visual deomopnstration, i dont think that its too happy with my videocard all of a sudden...which makes no sense cause it was fine during install
[08:19] <ciga> Seantater: I booted up with apm=on acpi=off
[08:19] <Seantater> jindiax: try installed dapper
[08:19] <Seantater> ciga: I really don;t know that much
[08:19] <Seantater> ciga: I have no clue about acpi apm, etc
[08:19] <jindiaz> dapper!?  ooo i duno man..  maybe.. just gunna try to reatrt
[08:19] <ciga> Seantater: thanks anyway.
[08:20] <Seantater> jindiaz: I use dapper all the time
[08:20] <jindiaz> it should be fine with an nvidia 6600 gt vid card
[08:20] <jindiaz> really?
[08:20] <jindiaz> its totally stable?
[08:20] <Seantater> Gosh I must be popular, my whole screen lit up from prople saying lines with my name in it
[08:21] <Seantater> jindiaz: No
[08:21] <Seantater> jindiaz: It's still alpha
[08:21] <Seantater> jindiaz: But It works
[08:21] <Seantater> jindiaz: Try the live cd first
[08:21] <mac> Hi. I upgraded to dapper from breezdy (via apt-get) and the sound wont work quite right.. I've got it now to semi work, but it the volume is WAY to low .. making it louder via kmixer etc doesnt work.. Any clues?
[08:22] <Seantater> jindiaz: IMO, it already has less bugs than breezy
[08:22] <Seantater> Then again.. :-)
[08:22] <Seantater> mac: What about your physical speakers?
[08:23] <Seantater> mac: Are they plugges in all the way
[08:23] <Seantater> mac: volume up
[08:23] <Seantater> mac: what program has this problem, all of them?
[08:23] <mac> Seantaler: Yes, they are setup correctly.. its a software problem, as it worked one hour ago with breedy
[08:24] <mac> Seantaler: tried the kde settings for sounds, xmms, bmp, amarok.. take a pick
[08:24] <strange_ghost> Seantater: That did not work (replacing breezy with dapper). Repositories do not have dapper yet
[08:24] <jindiaz> Seantater: crap.... i dunno whut the hell the problem is, it boots fine, the kubuntu start comes up, loads all the things with ok's, but when its done, the screen has these white boxes,, then pink lines
[08:24] <mac> It looks like the alsa mixer is set up too low
[08:24] <mac> (alsa driver)
[08:24] <strange_ghost> Seantater: Actually hold on...
[08:25] <Seantater> strange_ghost: Read the wiki, I think they have very much info concerning this.
[08:25] <strange_ghost> Seantater: k, thanks
[08:25] <Seantater> strange_ghost: They MOST DEFINITELY have the packages, I use them
[08:25] <Seantater> jindiaz: Last time that happened to me, I had to replace my video card
[08:25] <strange_ghost> Seantater: I needed to run update first :-\
[08:26] <Seantater> strange_ghost: working now?
[08:26] <strange_ghost> yup , downloading the stuff...
[08:26] <Seantater> jindiaz: I had to unplug (At the wall), my monitor and plug it back in to fix that last time
[08:27] <Seantater> jindiaz: Actually, that was two different times
[08:27] <Seantater> jindiaz: sorry
[08:27] <Seantater> !alsa
[08:27] <ubotu> [alsa]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[08:28] <Seantater> !dmix
[08:28] <ubotu> [dmix]  first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:28] <Seantater> ubotu tell mac about alsa
[08:28] <Seantater> ubotu tell mac about dmix
[08:28] <Seantater> !kmix
[08:28] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Seantater
[08:28] <mac> Thanks, I will try that
[08:31] <Seantater> hello nico__
[08:32] <skOre> Seamtater: root is the owner of that file, why can't I change that with sudo chown?
[08:32] <mac> Not much look with that
[08:33] <jonathan_> hi all. i get this odd message everytime i start up apdept updater
[08:33] <jonathan_> Could not find mime type application/octet-stream.....any suggestions
[08:33] <jonathan_> it works but it's just annoying to have that come up
[08:35] <mvv> jonathan_: i got that too since flight5, i guess it's something that's waiting to be done(?)
[08:35] <jonathan_> well, like i said it's just annoying
[08:36] <jonathan_> i have to say at least for me, flight 6 has been very stable
[08:37] <mvv> yeah for me too :)
[08:40] <skOre> Seantater: this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto solves my problems
[08:40] <skOre> Seantater: thank you for your help, I think I'm on track now
[08:40] <skOre> bye
[08:41] <zblach> hey. can one recommend me a nice, friendly audio converter?
[08:43] <beefsprocket> zblach: amarok has some great plugin scripts for conversion
[08:43] <zblach> eh, i'm not really an amarok fan
[08:43] <zblach> too... not xmms like
[08:43] <beefsprocket> lol
[08:44] <crimsun> !info nautilus-script-audio-convert dapper
[08:44] <ubotu> nautilus-script-audio-convert: (A nautilus audio converter script), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[08:44] <crimsun> !info nautilus-script-audio-convert
[08:44] <zblach> backported?
[08:44] <crimsun> (no, and it's for nautilus)
[08:44] <zblach> ah. hrm
[08:45] <beefsprocket> I tihnk kaudiocdcreator can convert as well as rip
[08:45] <zblach> there was a package called audio-convert, but it wants musepack-tools
[08:47] <mac> zblach: : apt-get install musepack-tools , most likley
[08:48] <zblach> mac, the package seems not-existant
[08:49] <zblach> either archaic or hidden
[08:49] <mac> zblach: try apt-cache search musepack
[08:49] <zblach> found a few things, but audio-convert still ain't happy
[08:50] <mac> zblach: it could be also in the multiverse branch
[08:50] <zblach> i didn't see it anywhere
[08:50] <zblach> but i'll keep lookin
[08:51] <mac> I remember installing it myself, I think
[08:51] <crimsun> in Breezy it's called gstreamer0.8-musepack
[08:51] <zblach> i'm fairly sure I have multiverse enabled
[08:51] <crimsun> just use gstreamer to convert them
[08:51] <zblach> have it
[08:54] <crimsun> now read the man page for gst-launch-0.8
[08:54] <crimsun> see the examples toward the end of the man page for converting
[08:54] <crimsun> you'll probably want to use gst-inspect-0.8
[08:55] <zblach> hey, this is pretty good, thanks
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[09:04] <crimsun> Fir: STOP IT.
[09:04] <jpatrick> !kops
[09:04] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fooishbar, haggai, amu, uniq, Mez, seth_k, nikkia, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, or robotgeek
[09:05] <soulflare> hello
[09:05] <jpatrick> soulflare: hi
[09:05] <nalioth> how lovely
[09:07] <soulflare> i've problem with KDE, the icons on my desktopdon't align to the grid anymore, althoug the option is enabled
[09:07] <soulflare> KDE 3.5.2
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[09:09] <jpatrick> someone ban the spammer
[09:10] <Seantater> supposively, konversation did.. I don;t see anything happening though
[09:11] <paulvolk> Where can I find a list of repositories for Kubuntu
[09:11] <Seantater> I;m not an op, so I don;t figure it did anything
[09:11] <jpatrick> !sources
[09:11] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:13] <paulvolk> I recently installed Kubuntu and the last couple of times I have started it it has started in the command line mode. How can I fix it so that KDM shows up all the time.
[09:13] <Seantater> try looking in /etc/init.d
[09:13] <Seantater> I think there is a kdm script there.
[09:13] <slow-motion> !easysource
[09:13] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:13] <Seantater> It might be faulty, or deleted
[09:17] <soulflare> okay, i fixed the problem myself now :)
[09:17] <soulflare> seems to be a bug in KDE
[09:18] <jonathan_> anyone have an opinion on XGL ?
[09:18] <jonathan_> stability, etc?
[09:18] <jpatrick> !xgl
[09:18] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[09:19] <jonathan_> cool, thank you
[09:20] <soulflare> how actually is the stability of dapper atm?
[09:21] <paulvolk> Which is better to get KDE 3.5.1 or 3.5.2?
[09:21] <Tm_T> paulvolk: newer ofcourse
[09:22] <paulvolk> ok
[09:25] <jindiaz> o no, hey does anyone knoe if zenity is unavailable now!?
[09:25] <jindiaz> i cant run automatix
[09:26] <jindiaz> i need to run it cause i need this pc up and running asap
[09:26] <jindiaz> like super asap
[09:26] <jonathan_> soulflare: i have used it for some time and have no problems
[09:26] <jonathan_> it has replaced my main OS
[09:27] <soulflare> does the upgrade from breezy to dapper work without problems?
[09:27] <soulflare> what was your main OS before?
[09:29] <Draeven> ok, this is the weirdest thing - the dapper cd worked just fine in my new Acer notebook - but failed on my desktop system
[09:29] <word> Not so wierd...different cd rom drive..different hardware...
[09:30] <word> The cd might have been corrupted by passing over a magnet or something on your way to your desktop..ya never know. Try it again in the laptop
[09:31] <Draeven> worked fine on the laptop - and from what I know - you can't corrupt plastic with a magnet ;)
[09:31] <Draeven> I'm gonna use Flight 5 on the desktop and the just upgrade to Flight 6 with adept
[09:31] <word> I've heard of weirder things happening ;)
[09:32] <word> Try it again in the laptop and if you can try running the cd uh....forgot what it was called it checks to make sure the cd isn't corrupt.
[09:33] <soulflare> will there be kubuntu cds available at shipit?
[09:33] <Draeven> cd couldn't be corrupt - I'm on my notebook and just installed using a Flight 6 cd - the same one that I threw 3 other copies out
[09:33] <jindiaz> anyone have any ideas on the zenity issue?
[09:35] <word> Draeven: Don't say it won't work until you've tried it wierd things can happen with computer equipment that can't be easily explained.
[09:35] <AjiDahaka> could anyone glance in the package list and tell me if skim is available yet?
[09:35] <Draeven> what I'm saying is the CD worked fine in my laptop - its the desktop that it wouldn't work on
[09:36] <Draeven> and I'm fine with it not working on the desktop
[09:36] <word> Yet you worked on it after you used the laptop...it could have been damaged the driver to operate your cd rom drive in your desktop could have been improperly copied...
[09:36] <word> if your fine with it then why'd you say it was a problem?...
[09:38] <Draeven> word: what I was saying was that it was wierd that it wouldn't boot on my desktop and that it did on my notebook
[09:40] <word> Draeven: And I gave you nearly every possible reason why...
[09:41] <jindiaz> ok so anyopne out there know abt the zenity problem????
[09:58] <bigiron> hello all
[09:58] <AjiDahaka> yo
[09:59] <bigiron> can anyone give me some advice on how to get kubuntu onto and existing ubuntu install. I want to do a Kubuntu-Desktop in synaptic but can't find the metapackage
[09:59] <crimsun> it's kubuntu-desktop. capitalisation matters.
[10:01] <bigiron> cool thanks, I should have thought of that.
[10:01] <bigiron> it's working now
[10:14] <jonathan__> ok, I'm having printer issues
[10:15] <jonathan__> i had my printer installed and I'm assuming the updates killed it
[10:15] <elijahlofgren> jonathan__: What error are you having? And what printer do you have?
[10:16] <jonathan__> now when i try to install it again i get "unable to load the requested driver. Unable to create the foomatic driver. either it doesn't exist of i dont have permissions to do it
[10:16] <jonathan__> samsung ml-2010
[10:16] <jonathan__> the ml-4500 drivers work, and i'm going thru kde to do it
[10:17] <elijahlofgren> jonathan__: I would suggest trying the Cups web interface. Try going to: http://localhost:631/printers/
[10:18] <jonathan__> yeah, i'm working on that now
[10:21] <jonathan__> it shows them all as stopped
[10:24] <jonathan__> dang, why can't things work and stay working
[10:24] <paulvolk> What do I need to compile software?
[10:25] <paulvolk> nv,
[10:26] <paulvolk> nvm*
[10:26] <elijahlofgren> paulvolk: apt-get install build-essential
[10:27] <elijahlofgren> jonathan__: I don't know if these would  help: http://ywwg.com/wordpress/?p=309 http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65111
[10:27] <elijahlofgren> jonathan__: Are you using Dapper?
[10:28] <AjiDahaka> is the new nvidia driver in dapper?
[10:28] <AjiDahaka> (the 8756 driver)
[10:29] <elijahlofgren> AjiDahaka: Let me see...
[10:29] <AjiDahaka> thanks
[10:29] <elijahlofgren> AjiDahaka: Yes it is.
[10:29] <AjiDahaka> great!  thanks!
[10:30] <AjiDahaka> (my card doesn't run with the older ones nor the nv driver)
[10:31] <elijahlofgren> AjiDahaka: Here's the listing. http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/nvidia-glx
[10:31] <stodge> Hi - is there a package for kubuntu for Microsoft's core fonts?
[10:32] <crimsun> !info msttcorefonts
[10:32] <stodge> Which repo is that in? I don't get a hit through adept
[10:32] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[10:32] <nico8481> re
[10:33] <paulvolk> Ok I have downloaded KBFX 0.4.9 but it won't configure for installing
[10:34] <stodge> Must be universe I presume
[10:34] <paulvolk> I unpack it and type ./configure but it gives me an error messege
[10:34] <AjiDahaka> what error message?
[10:34] <AjiDahaka> (pastebin the output, actually)
[10:35] <paulvolk> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[10:35] <paulvolk> that
[10:35] <AjiDahaka> hehe ...
[10:36] <AjiDahaka> go to the directory with the configure script ...
[10:36] <AjiDahaka> ./ is a way to say "run the file in this directory as a program" to your shell
[10:38] <paulvolk> What is the extention on the config script?
[10:38] <AjiDahaka> there shouldn't be one, usually
[10:38] <AjiDahaka> just configure
[10:38] <AjiDahaka> if it's not there, usually reading the included documentation is best
[10:39] <stodge> Still can't find msttcorefonts
[10:39] <AjiDahaka> says they are in multiverse
[10:39] <stodge> multiverse? Oh
[10:40] <AjiDahaka> that's what ubotu said
[10:40] <elijahlofgren> !universe
[10:40] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:40] <stodge> Sorry I missed that.
[10:40] <stodge> I don't have multiverse setup
[10:41] <stodge> Do I add the same repos for kubuntu as ubuntu?
[10:41] <elijahlofgren> stodge: yes
[10:41] <stodge> Ok thanks
[10:41] <elijahlofgren> stodge: Ubuntu and Kubuntu us the same repos but the just install different package sets.
[10:41] <elijahlofgren> *but they just
[10:42] <paulvolk> What is the command for unpacking a .tar.bz2?
[10:42] <AjiDahaka> tar -xf
[10:42] <stodge> And kubuntu is based on breezy?
[10:42] <AjiDahaka> breezy is a version of kubuntu, iiuc
[10:42] <stodge> tar xvfj?
[10:42] <stodge> ok
[10:42] <AjiDahaka> j and v are optional
[10:42] <elijahlofgren> stodge: I'm using Kubuntu Dapper Drake.
[10:43] <stodge> I didn't know there was a Kubuntu Dapper
[10:43] <AjiDahaka> it's in pre-release
[10:43] <stodge> Ah
[10:45] <stodge> Do I replace my sources.list with the source list that was mentioned earlier?
[10:45] <paulvolk> Ok I am really messed up. It won't let me configure this packedge source
[10:45] <paulvolk> And I have no Idea why!!!!
[10:45] <elijahlofgren> paulvolk: What error does it have?
[10:46] <paulvolk> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[10:46] <paulvolk> that
[10:46] <paulvolk> I have read the readme and it should work. It says to go to the directory and type ./configure
[10:46] <AjiDahaka> that's the idea, yeah
[10:46] <paulvolk> That is what I do but I get an error!!!!
[10:46] <elijahlofgren> paulvolk: What does the command "ls *configure" show
[10:47] <paulvolk> ls: *configure: No such file or director
[10:47] <paulvolk> that is what it says
[10:47] <slow-motion> bbl
[10:48] <AjiDahaka> paulvolk: then it's not there ...
[10:48] <elijahlofgren> paulvolk: Weird. What does running the command "ls" show?
[10:48] <paulvolk> do you want me to paste it here?
[10:48] <AjiDahaka> pastebin!
[10:49] <paulvolk> What does that mean?
[10:49] <elijahlofgren> paulvolk: !pastebin
[10:49] <elijahlofgren> !pastebin
[10:49] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:49] <paulvolk> oh ok
[10:49] <elijahlofgren> paulvolk: Are you sure you have done: "
[10:50] <elijahlofgren> paulvolk: "cd /the/directory/containing/the/configure/script" ?
[10:50] <elijahlofgren> paulvolk: That's what it means by "go to the directory"
[10:50] <stodge> THis is multiverse right?     deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:51] <paulvolk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12338
[10:51] <paulvolk> go here and tell me what you think
[10:51] <AjiDahaka> what's configure.files?
[10:51] <AjiDahaka> make -f Makefile.cvs would be my initial guess, though
[10:52] <mustafu> I've tried burning the Kubuntu install CD, however, my computer won't boot from it...bad burn / image maybe?  or...?
[10:52] <elijahlofgren> paulvolk: Maybe there's a configure in "kbfx-0.4.9"
[10:52] <AjiDahaka> mustafu: is the computer set to boot from cd?
[10:52] <stodge> paulvolk what error do you get when you do ./configure
[10:52] <AjiDahaka> stodge: there's no ./configure ...
[10:52] <mustafu> yes, it says "Boot from ATAPI CD-ROM: Failure..."
[10:52] <stodge> Oh must have missed that too - sorry
[10:52] <AjiDahaka> mustafu: sounds like bad media to me
[10:52] <AjiDahaka> stodge: no problem ;)
[10:52] <stodge> sh autoget.sh?
[10:53] <stodge> sh autogen.sh?
[10:53] <stodge> or sh bootstrap.sh
[10:53] <AjiDahaka> I'm still voting for make -f Makefile.cvs
[10:54] <stodge> What is the current version of kde in stable kubuntu after upgrading?
[10:54] <fatejudger> crimsun: ping
[10:54] <paulvolk> ok so what would I do to get it to install?
[10:54] <AjiDahaka> paulvolk: did you try make -f Makefile.cvs?
[10:54] <elijahlofgren> stodge: It depends if you endable the KDE 3.5 repo or not.
[10:54] <stodge> Ok
[10:54] <stodge> Is that safe?
[10:54] <stodge> Stable?
[10:54] <AjiDahaka> safish
[10:54] <AjiDahaka> sure
[10:54] <stodge> :)
[10:54] <AjiDahaka> ;)
[10:55] <crimsun> fatejudger: pong
[10:55] <paulvolk> I will
[10:55] <AjiDahaka> great
[10:55] <AjiDahaka> tell me if it works
[10:55] <fatejudger> crimsun: the Audigy 2 bug I reported got marked as "more info needed"
[10:55] <elijahlofgren> stodge: Should be. See: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[10:55] <fatejudger> crimsun: I provided it, but it hasn't been unmarked
[10:55] <Steveire> lo
[10:55] <fatejudger> crimsun: I didn't know whether I should do something other than comment at the bottom of the bug
[10:56] <crimsun> fatejudger: that just means someone hasn't looked at it yet
[10:56] <yodaz> re
[10:56] <paulvolk> ok it didn't work
[10:56] <paulvolk> it said "bash: -f: command not found"
[10:56] <crimsun> please be patient, it's Easter, and we're under extreme time pressure
[10:56] <Steveire> If I have a program written in VB6 for windows, can I easily make it work in Linux?
[10:56] <fatejudger> crimsun: I can imagine
[10:56] <fatejudger> crimsun: I'm just making sure that I did it right
[10:56] <fatejudger> crimsun: I didn't want there to be any confusion
[10:56] <AjiDahaka> paulvolk: what's the exact command you ran?!
[10:56] <paulvolk> -f Makefile.cvs
[10:57] <paulvolk> that
[10:57] <AjiDahaka> make -f Makefile.cvs
[10:57] <stodge> steveire: Most likely no - there is a program somewhere that may be close, but I don't know its name
[10:57] <AjiDahaka> make is a command ... and an important one!
[10:57] <paulvolk> oh ok
[10:57] <elijahlofgren> Steveire: Wine should probably run it.
[10:57] <paulvolk> sorry I missed that part
[10:57] <stodge> Bugger - my fonts keep changing size every time I log in
[10:57] <Steveire> What if it was written in Visual c++, or anotherlanguage?
[10:57] <Draeven> anyone know why I wouldn't be able to enable my wireless nick - its a Broadcom 4318 and the driver module is loaded?
[10:57] <stodge> C++ is cross platform
[10:59] <paulvolk> didn't work
[10:59] <paulvolk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12340 take a look
[10:59] <elijahlofgren> Steveire: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine
[10:59] <AjiDahaka> paulvolk: install autoconf
[10:59] <paulvolk> ok
[10:59] <AjiDahaka> paulvolk: and probably automake
[11:00] <cycus_zwisus> how to compile the newest kbfx under breezy?
[11:00] <Steveire> thanks elijahlofgren, but I'd prefer to have a standalone set up.
[11:00] <Steveire> stodge: Does that mean that it will work?
[11:00] <elijahlofgren> Steveire: Standalone? What do you mean by that?
[11:00] <Steveire> Not needing wine
[11:00] <stodge> You can write C++ on Windows and the re-compile it on Linux
[11:01] <Steveire> That's what I wanted to hear, thanks
[11:01] <stodge> Same with C, Python, Java etc
[11:01] <Steveire> but not BASIC?
[11:01] <elijahlofgren> stodge: But won't it not work if it calls Windows APIs?
[11:01] <paulvolk> ok now that I have installed autoconf what do I do?
[11:01] <stodge> I was talking standard C++
[11:02] <stodge> Windows API is an extra library, not part of standard C++
[11:02] <AjiDahaka> paulvolk: the same thing ... it FAILED because of the REASON STATED IN CAPITAL LETTERS
[11:02] <stodge> bbl
[11:02] <paulvolk> oh ok
[11:03] <paulvolk> It said this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12341
[11:03] <AjiDahaka> paulvolk: what do you guess you should do now?
[11:04] <paulvolk> install it again?
[11:04] <paulvolk> or what? Update?
[11:04] <enr1x|MarcosBOX> good night from barcelona!!
[11:04] <AjiDahaka> or install THE THING IN CAPITAL LETTERS
[11:04] <paulvolk> oh ok
[11:04] <AjiDahaka> *** AUTOMAKE NOT FOUND!. <-- that line is IMPORTANT
[11:04] <enr1x|MarcosBOX> how can i disable the signature checking for apt-get update? im trying to install breezy
[11:05] <paulvolk> What version? it gives me version 1.4 through 1.9
[11:05] <stodge> apt-get install build-essential
[11:06] <AjiDahaka> paulvolk: *** KDE requires automake 1.6.1 or newer <-- also IMPORTANT
[11:06] <paulvolk> ok
[11:08] <paulvolk> ok I made the config file
[11:08] <paulvolk> it worked
[11:09] <paulvolk> but when I configure I  get this checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[11:10] <AjiDahaka> you need to install the -dev package for xorg, then
[11:10] <AjiDahaka> (you'll run into this a few times, I imagine)
[11:12] <paulvolk> I can't find the xorg-dev?
[11:13] <paulvolk> What is the exact packedge I am looking for?
[11:13] <AjiDahaka> paulvolk: there's actually a search utility builtin for this sort of thing ...
[11:13] <AjiDahaka> xserver-xorg-dev is what it tells me
[11:15] <paulvolk> Can't find the packedge
[11:16] <paulvolk> there is no xserver-xorg-dev
[11:16] <AjiDahaka> hmm ... it exists here
[11:16] <paulvolk> I can't find it though
[11:16] <AjiDahaka> just a tick
[11:17] <paulvolk> What?
[11:18] <AjiDahaka> I don't see them ...
[11:18] <AjiDahaka> they seem to be in my cache, though :p
[11:18] <paulvolk> you don't see what?
[11:18] <paulvolk> oh ok
[11:18] <AjiDahaka> the xorg-dev programs on the search page
[11:20] <paulvolk> so what should I do?
[11:20] <AjiDahaka> find an xorg -dev package with X headers or download them manually ...
[11:23] <steveire> When I boot, there is one thing that fails everytime.
[11:24] <steveire> Synchronisation with ntp.ubuntu.org clock or something like that
[11:28] <stodge> Damn - this site doesn't work using Konq:   http://www.trader.ca/search/default.asp?category=1&categoryid=1&CAT=1
[11:29] <paulvolk> Which would be better to install Kubuntu version 5.10 or 6.06?
[11:31] <paulvolk> anyone?
[11:31] <PaulT> hello... need some help
[11:31] <steveire> I'm fairly happy with 5.10 atm
[11:32] <steveire> I want to make an application with C++. Do I have what I need preinstalled, or do I need to apt get something
[11:32] <steveire> ?
[11:32] <PaulT> my wireless card is showing that it is functioning, but it says that it is deactivated... it is showing that it is on my network and there is signal strength... it wont let me on the net... what is going on?
[11:32] <Blissex> steveire: you need the development packages, there is a metapackage to pull them in.
[11:33] <steveire> eh, what do I search in adept for?
[11:33] <stodge> build-essential
[11:33] <slow-motion> re
[11:33] <stodge> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:33] <stodge> And others
[11:34] <Blissex> PaulT: insufficient description, hard to say whats going on.
[11:38] <PaulT> yeah... uhm... i dont know what the deal is either... in the kcontrol, it says that ra0 is deactivated, but when i press activate device, it takes about a minute to activate it and then it breifly flashes activated and then says it is deactivated again... but then when i check the status, it says that it is connected to the network. but when i open up the window to surf the net... it says that i am not connected
[11:39] <TheMonoTone> has anyone installed cinelerra?
[11:40] <stodge> Anyone know how to switch between different versions of automake?
[11:40] <Enr1x|Marquinhos> good night
[11:40] <Enr1x|Marquinhos> i have a small question
[11:40] <Enr1x|Marquinhos> what is newer: dapper or breezy
[11:40] <Enr1x|Marquinhos> ?
[11:41] <stodge> dapper
[11:41] <Enr1x|Marquinhos> oks
[11:41] <Enr1x|Marquinhos> so i should edit the /etc/apt/sources.list rightnow
[11:41] <Enr1x|Marquinhos> stodge: thanks
[11:41] <stodge> Welcome
[11:44] <Enr1x|Marquinhos> stodge: could you tell me what version has kde 3.5.2 please? i changed every instance of breezy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list, but i cannot find kde 3.5.2 through apt-cache search
[11:46] <Blissex> PaulT: more details. Which card? Which driver?
[11:46] <stodge> I don't know - sorry
[11:46] <Blissex> PaulT: also, check with command line tools like 'iwlist scanning' and 'ifconfig'
[11:47] <stodge> I have a bunch of files in sub-directories. How can I move them all into one directory?
[11:48] <stodge> I thought there was a way to use tar to do this, but I can't work it out through man
[11:49] <Enr1x|Marquinhos> stodge: mv */* . should do this
[11:49] <Enr1x|Marquinhos> note that you have to cd to the parent directory of that subdirectories
[11:50] <stodge> mv */* .    ?
[11:50] <stodge> I don't see how that will go down into multiple sub-directories
[11:50] <Enr1x|Marquinhos> to move files
[11:50] <Enr1x|Marquinhos> add more asteriscs...
[11:50] <Enr1x|Marquinhos> i cannot think of anything else
[11:50] <stodge> Ok thanks
[11:52] <PaulT> in the terminal, i typed in sudo ifup ra0 and it went through a buch of crap and then said No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[11:58] <stodge> Any ideas how to select which automake is used?
[12:00] <stodge> Bugger I accidentally removed the menu bar and icon bar from konsole - how do I get it back!
[12:01] <ToyMan> hey all
[12:02] <ToyMan> has anyone successfully mounted a fbsd usf volume in kubuntu?
[12:03] <ToyMan> I have a fbsd box with 2 hd... I want to wipe fbsd on the boot drive, but I'm worried that I won't be able to access the much larger usf volume after the install... the big drive has my entire music collection...


[01:36] <donkeyofdarkness> Do these release parties have beer?
[01:37] <donkeyofdarkness> nvm. I see that it's at a pub
[01:37] <donkeyofdarkness> :P
[01:38] <donkeyofdarkness> I might be there if I'm awake. I work nights and get off at 8am that morning :/
[01:43] <donkeyofdarkness> yeah. I'll probably go.
[02:24] <FunnyLookinHat> donkeyofdarkness, GOOD beer at Hansons
[02:24] <FunnyLookinHat> Be there.
[02:24] <FunnyLookinHat> If you don't come - I h4x you.
[02:25] <donkeyofdarkness> Do they have Becks?
[02:25] <FunnyLookinHat> errr
[02:25] <FunnyLookinHat> N/a I think  :(
[02:25] <FunnyLookinHat> http://www.hansonsgrill-tavern.com/id5.html
[02:26] <FunnyLookinHat> I like IPAs so I usually get the Sierra Nevada
[02:26] <donkeyofdarkness> I pretty much only drink Becks, Heineken, and Amstel Light.
[02:26] <donkeyofdarkness> they have the latter 2 so I'll be good
[02:26] <donkeyofdarkness> :)
[02:27] <FunnyLookinHat> Nice :)
[02:27] <FunnyLookinHat> bbl
[04:00] <donkeyofdarkness> Does Hansons have the wifis?
[04:12] <donkeyofdarkness> And will I be attacked and severely beaten if my laptop is running Arch Linux??


[14:15] <axisys> still looking for some help on this
[14:15] <axisys> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6668647
[14:15] <axisys> ubuntu installation bombs out during disk detection on t1000