[10:26] <Shinh_Wa> help me
[10:26] <acicula> shades: you can set a proxy in apt.conf
[10:26] <acicula> shades: man apt.conf, or use the package manager
[10:27] <Shinh_Wa> Tôi đang sử dụng 10.04.3
[10:27] <Shinh_Wa> help me
[10:27] <Shinh_Wa> I'm using 10.04.3
[10:27] <Shinh_Wa> I updated to version 10.04.4
[10:28] <Shinh_Wa> thì run irc connecting vào chậm kinh khủng
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> !enter| Shinh_Wa
[10:28] <Shinh_Wa> connecting to the irc run terribly slow
[10:28] <shades> I see an apt.conf.d/ but no apt.conf . . .
[10:28] <Shinh_Wa> I'm using 10.04.3 I updated to version 10.04.4 connecting to the irc run terribly slow
[10:29] <Shinh_Wa> I'm using 10.04.3 and I updated to version 10.04.4 connecting to the irc run terribly slow
[10:29] <SunTsu> shades: it would help if only asked in a single language then
[10:29] <shades> SunTsu, what?
[10:29] <andrewhiggs> How do I make Ubuntu allow more processing power to certain processes? In this case the tomcat process and the database connections it is using?
[10:30] <SunTsu> shades: uh, nevermind, wrong completion, sorry
[10:30] <SunTsu> Shinh_Wa: it would help if only asked in a single language then
[10:31] <Dedkov> hello, есть русскоязычные ?
[10:31] <kvartz> Ку!
[10:31] <Shinh_Wa> I'm using 10.04.3 and I updated to version 10.04.4 connecting to the irc run terribly slow
[10:31] <SunTsu> !ru | Dedkov
[10:31] <Shinh_Wa> :(
[10:31] <Dedkov>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[10:32] <Dedkov> thank you
[10:32] <SunTsu> Shinh_Wa: you didn't ask anything yet, are you going to anytime soon or did you just wanted us to know about your connection?
[10:32] <jmara> MonkeyDust: thanks I'll try ;)
[10:32] <shades> this might be an easier issue resolved by having vmware bridge my network connection as the host machien is already dynamically forwarding
[10:34] <shades> wow I'm suprised at how much of that russian i could actually read
[10:34] <Shinh_Wa> me as you want to fix sao to connect to irc fast
[10:34] <hdev> Hi, where do I start if I have power consumption issues with my notebook? it is somehow using 33W according to powertop, on windows its around 12 on idle
[10:35] <Shinh_Wa> from the self-update to 10.04.4 connect to irc delayed
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> Shinh_Wa  try this line: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:37] <shades>
[10:38] <Shinh_Wa> Since the update to connect to irc 10.04.4 delayed terrible
[10:39] <Shinh_Wa> how to connect quickly irc right atrium now the ubuntu config like?
[10:41] <yohann> can someone help me out with grub
[10:41] <yohann> it gives me a invalid arch independent elf magic
[10:41] <aljosa> looking for some package w/ ui to configure synaptics/mutlitouch. i've installed gsynaptics but it doesn't contain any tools. any tips?
[10:41] <yohann> grub rescue
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> aljosa  maybe this link (2009) is helpful http://agoranetbook.kayno.net/2009/10/06/touchpad-configuration-for-ubuntu-9-10-grub-2/
[10:46] <red> Anyone know if you can set up remotedesktop so that if you open a link in irc/skype it would instead open on the local machine, and not on the rdesktopped machine?
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> red  rdesktop... a windows machine?
[10:47] <red> yup
[10:48] <red> id like to somehow capture links from skype to my ubuntu instead having to copypaste
[10:48] <red> since the clipboard is sorta glitchy at times
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> red  from the rdesktop manpage: "-r clipboard:[off|PRIMARYCLIPBOARD|CLIPBOARD] Enable clipboard redirection. 'PRIMARYCLIPBOARD' looks at both PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD when sending data to server. 'CLIPBOARD' looks at only CLIPBOARD."
[10:52] <orgthingy> My web-cam apparently doesnt work, I guess it's a driver-related issue..but, how can I know what's my webcam in order to download a driver for it? it's built-in
[10:54] <traubisoda> yesterday i tried to install GUI on ubuntu server 11.10, but on boot the GUI didn't initalized, i tried to stop/start/restart it, no use. than i installed KDE then i was able to log in. After 'sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop' shall i install GDM too?
[10:55] <red> MonkeyDust: by glitchy, I ment that sometimes the clipboard interaction seizes to function
[10:55] <traubisoda> from KDM i was able to log into lightdm and KDE too
[10:55] <red> i've tested all those modes
[10:55] <gvo> orthingy: lspci  or lsusb might find it.  Or you could look in dmesg and see if there's a mention of it at boot.
[10:55] <red> I copy something locally, but pasting it remotely pastes what is in the remote clipboard
[10:56] <orgthingy> gvo: thanks
[10:56] <tegra> i tried ubuntu 10.04.4 iso on ps3 but doesn't work
[10:56] <gigahertz> hello!!!
[10:57] <yohann> my grub is messed up can someone help it gives a grub rescue error
[10:57] <Sidewinder> orgthingy, Or, if it's built-in, there's always sudo lshw..
[10:57] <tegra> how to boot 10.04.4 on ps3 ?
[10:57]  * orgthingy never used that command before
[10:58] <Sidewinder> orgthingy, But gvo's probably correct, it's probably pci or usb.
[10:58] <orgthingy> Sidewinder: I didnt find it in lspci
[10:58] <Sidewinder> hw=hardware
[10:58] <orgthingy> maybe cuz I read too fast
[10:58] <orgthingy> but that command seems neat, Sidewinder
[10:58] <Sidewinder> :)
[10:58] <gvo> orgthingy: Sidewinder : I suspect hw will find it
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> tegra  red the red warning first: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1492789
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> read*
[11:01] <orgthingy> http://pastebin.com/cB31zczb
[11:01] <orgthingy> ^ gvo Sidewinder
[11:01] <bartoloni> hi, there is a link for the 12.04 rc? (thx)
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> bartoloni  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:02] <Sidewinder> !12.04
[11:03] <gvo> orgthingy: It doesn't look like it's there.
[11:03] <bartoloni> thx sidewinder
[11:03] <Sidewinder> My pleasure. :-)
[11:03] <yohann> can anyone help me out with grub >
[11:03] <yohann> my whole system wont boot
[11:03] <orgthingy> :(
[11:03] <Sidewinder> Cheese it, it's the cops.
[11:03] <gvo> yohann what's the error message.
[11:04] <yohann> grub rescue
[11:04] <yohann> and invalid arch independent elf magic windows
[11:04] <tegra> MonkeyDust, without install ? it's possible ?
[11:04] <tegra> only boot the iso
[11:04] <gvo> yohann:  at what point does it fail?
[11:04] <yohann> gvo: actually i had widnows first , then installed ubuntu and then mac on a hfs+ partition
[11:05] <yohann> it fails on boot
[11:05] <yohann> grub is my default loader
[11:05] <yohann> verifying DMI Pool data... grub rescue>
[11:05] <gvo> yohann: at what step in the boot does it fail?
[11:05] <tegra> can't boot ubuntu on ps3
[11:05] <yohann> i dont even get the boot menu at all
[11:05] <gvo> yohann Do you see the boot menu?
[11:05] <yohann> no
[11:05] <yohann> not one bit
[11:06] <gvo> Grub or grub2?
[11:06] <yohann> 2
[11:06] <meomic> hey, im using ubuntu 10.10 x86-64, ihave problem with sound indicator - i have normal gnome instead of that ubuntu one (with players listed there) - how can i make it come back?
[11:06] <gvo> What did you do to cause it to fail or did it never work?
[11:07] <yohann> gvo: i think what caused the problem as that i did sudo apt-get install grub in my root ubuntu install paritition and i have windows installed also...ever since i did that i got the error
[11:07] <yohann> sudo apt-get install grub /dev/sda3
[11:09] <Sidewinder> !eol > meomic
[11:09] <gvo> yohann: I think you'll need to boot a live cd or usb drive and maybe run boot-repair
[11:10] <yohann> im already in live cd
[11:10] <yohann> live usb
[11:10] <yohann> actually
[11:10] <yohann> do i just do boot-repair?
[11:11] <gvo> yohann if it's installed
[11:11] <yohann> if what is installed?
[11:11] <gvo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[11:12] <gvo> yohann: boot-repair
[11:12] <gvo> yohann: Gotta run.
[11:12] <yohann> gvo: thanks
[11:12] <monohedron> hi
[11:18] <root>
[11:18] <Guest91750>
[11:19] <coutts99> room%server.domain.tld
[11:21] <tkostov1> Hi all where can i get a bit help about ubuntu ssh und tar pipinng
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> tkostov1  in #ubuntu
[11:22] <fidel> tkostov1: maybe inhere - if you describe your real problem
[11:22] <asido> you probably want scp?
[11:22] <tkostov1> no scp does not work
[11:22] <tkostov1> because of the number of files
[11:22] <tkostov1> i am planning to use tar piping over ssh
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> tkostov1  then try rsync
[11:23] <tkostov1> i can create ssh connection to server
[11:23] <tkostov1> and then i have no idea how to retreve the data from it
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> tkostov1  rsync over ssh may be what you want
[11:23] <t0m5k1> tkostovl i recommend you set up some key's so you do not need to declare the pword
[11:23] <tkostov1> ok
[11:24] <tkostov1> but how to create the connection
[11:24] <tkostov1> it hast to be ssh root@server
[11:24] <tkostov1> and then ?
[11:24] <t0m5k1> im sure the ubuntu wiki will help in setting up the keys for the initial ssh connection then after that you can work out whether you need rsync etc
[11:24] <Guest91750>
[11:24] <nbubuntu> anyone know whether the latest ubuntu 12.04 support z77 board ?
[11:25] <tkostov1> # tar cvzf - /wwwdata | ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>"dd of=/backup/wwwdata.tar.gz"
[11:25] <fidel> !12.04 | nbubuntu
[11:25] <tkostov1> # tar zcvf - /wwwdata | ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>"cat > /backup/wwwdata.tar.gz"
[11:25] <tkostov1> i was planning to use something like that
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> tkostov1  root@server is not a good idea
[11:26] <tkostov1> but i have to get the tarbal from the server
[11:26] <tkostov1> not copy on it
[11:26] <tkostov1> ok I`ll use other user
[11:26] <fidel> tkostov1: most likely possible using another user as well. login via ssh as root is often even disallowed by ssh-config (sidenote)
[11:26] <t0m5k1> tkostovl would it not be better to do this in reverse
[11:26] <nbubuntu> fidel : Thanks :)
[11:27] <tkostov1> t0m5k1: how exatcly
[11:27] <tkostov1> ist my question
[11:27] <adminoir> anyone good with Postfix config? Im getting the old Relay error sending from Thunderbird
[11:27] <t0m5k1> i mean have the server itself create the tarball then dump it where it needs to go via a cron job which initiates a scritp
[11:27] <asido>
[11:28] <tkostov1> t0m5k1: the host where the tar is behind a nat
[11:28] <tkostov1> and cannot be connected to it..
[11:30] <Lint> I cannot access stuff in a shareddisk partition
[11:30] <Lint> I have uid=1000 in both systems, but ubuntu shows everything owned by 500:500
[11:32] <wonderman> can someone tell me how to remove the policy chains that UFW inserts to netfilter?
[11:36] <yohann> can someone pleease help me with grub i cant boot anything
[11:36] <yohann> no windows no ubuntu no mac no nothing
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> !details| yohann
[11:38] <yohann> it started when i did a sudo grub-install into the linux root drive
[11:39] <yohann> before that i dont know where grub was installed
[11:39] <shades> I seem to be having a hard time getting ubuntu to apt-get through a proxy
[11:39] <yohann> but after i did that (i was tryng to boot mac too, off of grub loader) i got a grub rescue and a invalid arch independent elf magic windows
[11:39] <yohann> error
[11:39] <yohann> now i dont know what i did in the live usb but i managed to get something running here
[11:40] <Therion87> You don't install it to just the linux drive say sda1 with mac on sda2 you install it to sda
[11:40] <yohann> i got a gnu grub version 1.99 running
[11:40] <yohann> sda3
[11:40] <shades> http://thanhpt25.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/configure-apt-get-with-proxy/ I followed this guide but still no luck
[11:40] <Therion87> Ok well you need to boot to a live cd and reisntall it to sda
[11:40] <Therion87> not sda3
[11:40] <yohann> it says minimal bash like line editing is supported for the first word tab lists possible command completetions
[11:40] <shades> anyidea what gives?
[11:41] <dryliketoast> @shades u just need to define the proxy enviroment variable
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> yohann  sda is a device, sda3 is a partition
[11:41] <yohann> oh so i have to do grub-install sda?
[11:41] <Therion87> /dev/sda
[11:41] <yohann> yeah
[11:41] <yohann> ok ill do that now hold on
[11:41] <Therion87> Yes
[11:42] <yohann> oh yeah i have windows too will that affect anything?
[11:42] <Therion87> Nope
[11:42] <Therion87> All will show in the grub
[11:42] <Zerpex> Hi guys, I'm currently sitting here, and I have domain1.com that needs to act like domain2.com, can I point domain1.com to actually go to domain2.com in the hosts file?
[11:42] <Therion87> After install make sure you run grub-update
[11:42] <yohann> oh ok thanks
[11:42] <amokpaule> Hello, i have an ati card installed. I use the fgrlx driver and i do my settings over the catalyst control center. On every reboot now it resets my settings.
[11:42] <yohann> ok
[11:44] <Atlantic777> On ubuntu server on an old PC i have some problems with graphics. At the first time, everything worked well but then (I don't know when) I can't see GRUB and tty is all shite with some unreadable characters. I still have ssh access to that machine, monitor is connected to it, too. It's the same with and without nomodeset in grub boot options. Any ideas?
[11:45] <yohann> Therion87: im in live usb doing what you said now
[11:45] <Therion87> Ok
[11:46] <Therion87> Lemme know how it goes
[11:46] <yohann> it says error
[11:46] <Therion87> I'm not sure about that might happen with it already installed to sda3 tho
[11:46] <Therion87> What error?
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> "computer says no" ;)
[11:46] <yohann> cannot find device
[11:46] <yohann> for /boot/grub
[11:46] <yohann> is /dev mounted?
[11:47] <yohann> thats what it said
[11:47] <Therion87> Ok
[11:47] <Therion87> Before running grub type
[11:47] <yohann>   /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?) (thats the full error)
[11:47] <coolroot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/938148/ <---- got something here any help?
[11:47] <Therion87> mount /dev/sda
[11:48] <yohann> cannot find /dev/sda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:48] <zvacet> yohann:  try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair to repair grub
[11:48] <shades>     http://pastebin.com/EB1sHyA5
[11:48] <pangolin> !paste | yohann
[11:49] <Therion87> Try that little app install it on thelive CD
[11:49] <yohann> ok ill paste but im actually on my laptop not on the pc
[11:49] <Therion87> Looks like a nice little app
[11:49] <yohann> boot-repair?
[11:49] <Therion87> Yeah
[11:50] <zvacet> yohann:  you are running hackintosh on pc?
[11:51] <yohann> zvacet: i have 3 os'es
[11:51] <yohann> windows first
[11:51] <yohann> then installed ubuntu
[11:51] <yohann> and now i regret trying hackintosh this morning on a hfs+ 30gig partivetion i chopped off some dri
[11:51] <yohann> and now i regret trying hackintosh this morning on a hfs+ 30gig partition i chopped off some drive
[11:52] <shades> any ideas why my connection isn't forwarding?
[11:52] <zvacet> yohann: pirated software is not supported here
[11:52] <Lint> yohann, if you need to have /dev dir mounted into chroot environment
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> yohann  maybe you want too much
[11:52] <yohann> yeah i know im not asking about hackintosh
[11:52] <yohann> i figured i was asking for too much
[11:52] <pangolin> yohann, Please give the enter key a rest
[11:52] <yohann> :(
[11:53] <jiltdil> How to be some channel operators? ;)
[11:53] <nampat> hi
[11:53] <zvacet> yohann: yes,you are asking to put hackintosh on ghrub it is not supported here move on
[11:53] <pangolin> jiltdil, that has nothing to do with ubuntu, ask in #freenode
[11:54] <Miles> when  trying to resume from hibernate the process hangs at the console with the last line "image loaded successfully"
[11:54] <Miles> is that a known problem?
[11:54] <yohann> looks like boot repair might be doing the trick
[12:00] <Lyfer> Hi! I have hit upon a huge problem: I was updating to Ubuntu 11.10 and in the middle the system shut down (due to overheating) and now I am in a state where my system won't start properly and I don't know what to do.
[12:01] <usr13> Lyfer: How far does it get?
[12:01] <Lyfer> If I try to start the normal mode, the startup just hangs, without any clear error messages. And it won't start the x-server
[12:01] <Lyfer> I can start in fail safe mode and from there it is possible to start the x-server with startx.
[12:02] <Lyfer> I will restart it now and see exactly what it says. Wait two secs.
[12:02] <usr13> Lyfer: Try the update from fail safe mode.
[12:02] <fidel> Lyfer: i would try to see the error-message while the normal boot - to understand where it hangs
[12:03] <Lyfer> I have tried to update in fail safe mode but nothing happens.
[12:03] <fidel> boot-splashes are usualy not helpful at all - as they hide infos you might otherwise see
[12:03] <Lyfer> It may be that the process have destroyed some configuration but I don't know how to reset it.
[12:03] <yohann> i treid fixing my grub loader
[12:03] <yohann> but i get a old grub 1.99
[12:03] <usr13> Lyfer: You really need to fix the hardware issue before going any farther.  (Fix your PC so that  it no longer overheats.)
[12:04] <zvacet> Lyfer: try with sudo dpkg --configure -a  sudo apt-get -f install
[12:04] <yohann> no options no menu just a "grub >  "  thing where i can type in some commands or something
[12:04] <zvacet> !piracy | yohann
[12:04] <Lyfer> usr13: I know. It is old and bad. The fix may very well be to throw it away.
[12:05] <usr13> Lyfer: What is it?  Desktop?  Laptop?
[12:05] <Lyfer> usr13: Laptop
[12:05] <yohann> ok sorry, but isnt grub discussion not a part of hackintosh discussions? im not asking about hakintosh
[12:05] <yohann> bye
[12:06] <usr13> Lyfer: See that the fan is in working order.  Take it apart and clean it, etc.
[12:06] <usr13> Lyfer: .... apply new thermal grease
[12:07] <Lyfer> usr13: Yes, I guess I'll have to. Right now I try to allow for better air flow and it seems to help slightly.
[12:08] <Sidewinder> Lyfer, A few yrs. ago my wife had lappy over-heat problems; she bought and is thrilled with one of those external fans that sit under the lappy..
[12:08] <Lyfer> The "ubuntu" splash screen comes on, then it disappears. The last message in the startup is "Starting CUPS printing spooler/server [OK]"
[12:09] <Sidewinder> Lyfer, Just ignore the additional noise. :-)
[12:09] <Lyfer> It is possible to ssh login to the computer in its current condition as well.
[12:09] <Sidewinder> And make sure that you're zipper is up. :)
[12:10] <Lyfer> Sidewinder: Oh, sounds too dangerous for me. ;)
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> Lyfer i havent followed, i'm here over ssh, what do you mean by current condition
[12:10] <Sidewinder> ;)
[12:10] <Lyfer> MonkeyDust: My computer does not start properly.
[12:10] <stimpie> does any one know of a ready argument to use syslog for central logging over windows event log? I need to convince a windows admin we should move to centralized syslog
[12:11] <black_> i want to view NOAA charts, in raster format, but i cant understand what application to use in ubuntu.
[12:11] <pangolin> stimpie, try ##windows
[12:11] <Lyfer> I would be happy if I could just clean out all startup config files and replace them with what would be a fresh installation.
[12:12] <stimpie> pangolin, good suggestion ;-)
[12:12] <Sidewinder> black_, Have you tried 'Gimp"?
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> Lyfer  do you get past the grub menu or not even that?
[12:12] <Lyfer> MonkeyDust: Yepp, I get the "Ubunut" splash screen and then it disappears.
[12:13] <black_> sidewinder, no but they are sort of in a folder, with some data files that i cant understand
[12:14] <Lyfer> zvacet: Doesn't do anything. :(
[12:14] <Sidewinder> black_, I know nothing about "Raster", sorry,  but I would try opening in Gimp, it should already be installed, and see if that helps.
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> Lyfer  hm, not sure, but try the basic ssh [remote user]@[remote ip]
[12:15] <black_> sidewinder, thank you for your information
[12:15] <phryk> usr13: Apply new thermal paste… On a laptop?
[12:15] <Sidewinder> black_, Also Blender is a CAD like program (I've never used it), that might help..
[12:15] <Lyfer> MonkeyDust: The ssh works. That is not the issue. The issue is that the desktop does not load.
[12:15] <phryk> You do realize this will void all warranties that might be left? o_O
[12:15] <Lyfer> phryk: The computer is WAAAAY past that.
[12:16] <phryk> Lyfer: Do you have any experience opening up laptops?
[12:16] <Guest41493> does anyone know what netcat is?
[12:16] <Sidewinder> black_, My pleasure; I just wish I could've given you something more definitive.
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> Lyfer  do you want a gui over ssh? what do you mean by 'the desktop does not load'?
[12:16] <Lyfer> phryk: Nope, so I don't know if I will attempt it.
[12:16] <black_> sidewinder, those are nautical charts, i was wondering if you knew any char application meant for electronic charts
[12:17] <oCean> Guest41493: tool to open/view tcp connections, send packets etc, can do *lots*.
[12:17] <Lyfer> MonkeyDust: No, I want to be able to start my computer. I just tried to tell anyone listening that it was possible to do an ssh login. Thus trying to define the state of my computer.
[12:17] <phryk> Lyfer: Then simply don't. If it's a thinkpad you might be able to do it, if it's anything else it'll likely break. Just hold a vacuum cleaner up to the 'Exhaust pipe' of your laptop, that ought to suck out most of the dust.
[12:17] <Sidewinder> black_, Yes, I'm a pilot and have also done much marine navigation; so I know NOAA... :-)
[12:17] <fl1bbl3> Lyfer: if you can ssh then your computer HAS started
[12:18] <fl1bbl3> Guest41493: yes
[12:18] <oCean> black_: could this be helpful? (it's not a package that is in the ubuntu repositories..)
[12:18] <fl1bbl3> it can be used in a whole raft of ways
[12:18] <phryk> Guest41493: Very simple tool for network analysis.
[12:18] <black_> sidewinder, i am really sorry, i didnt knew that.. :D
[12:18] <Lyfer> fl1bbl3: OK, bad wording from my side. It starts but it does not complete the startup sequence, ie., it does not load the login screen.
[12:19] <fl1bbl3> Lyfer: do you mean it won't show _anything_ or that it won't start X?
[12:19] <black_> oCean , i didnt get you
[12:19] <Sidewinder> black_, I would just try gimp and if that doesn't do what you want, maybe Blender but I doubt it.. :-(
[12:19] <Lyfer> fl1bbl3: It won't start x and it won't give me a login screen (except in fail safe mode, where I can login and start x manually using "startx")
[12:20] <oCean> black_: right, forgot to paste the link :)  http://polarnavy.wordpress.com/2010/01/22/linux-installation-instructions/
[12:21] <fl1bbl3> can you boot into recovery mode?
[12:21] <fl1bbl3> so its your X setup thats broken
[12:21] <ariel__> can someone tell me why i cant seem to find oracle java for ubuntu 11.19
[12:21] <ariel__> 11.10
[12:21] <phryk> Lyfer: Did you try to do ctrl+alt+f2 and then login on the tty and try to execute startx by hand?
[12:21] <Sidewinder> black_, Yes, what oCean said; you'll probably have better chances trying that. Thanx, oCean !
[12:22] <Lyfer> fl1bbl3: Very possibly so, but I don't know how to fix it.
[12:22] <phryk> Lyfer: also first `cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log`
[12:22] <MrWobz> Hello, does anyone have experiance sharing an internet connection via network/interfaces
[12:22] <black_> oCean , thank you for that, i was looking for something like that.
[12:23] <pentagonpie> If i prefer KDE. is there any reason for me to stay with ubuntu and not switch to a distro with KDE as default?
[12:23] <bobweaver> MrWobz,  like teathering or something like that ?
[12:23] <Lyfer> I could even do an ssh and start the x-server from there.
[12:23] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  Yes
[12:23] <llutz> !info qlandkartegt  | black_
[12:23] <MrWobz> Basically I have a server colocated, I want to colocate another but dont want to buy a switch
[12:23] <MrWobz> I am only allowed one internet feed, both servers have two nics
[12:23] <bobweaver> !vnc | Lyfer
[12:23] <OerHeks> pentagonpie, one reason is great support, US !
[12:24] <Lyfer> bobweaver: OK, thanks but that's not what I am looking for.
[12:24] <bobweaver> but all the cool kids are using mutt and screen Lyfer
[12:24] <Lyfer> bobweaver: I just want to be able to start my computer.
[12:24] <bobweaver> oh
[12:24] <bobweaver> like starting over lan ? Lyfer
[12:25] <Lyfer> bobweaver: Nope, by pressing the "ON" button. :-(
[12:25] <Lyfer> bobweaver: My startup process is somehow corrupted.
[12:25] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  you are getting busybox ?
[12:25] <fl1bbl3> lol, bobweaver I fetchmail my gmail into mutt and screen :D
[12:26] <bobweaver> :D
[12:26] <bobweaver> see all the cool kids are using it ;>)
[12:26] <fl1bbl3> agreed :)
[12:27] <bobweaver> MrWobz,  how many servers ?
[12:27] <bobweaver> puppet chef is why I ask ^^
[12:27] <pentagonpie> OerHeks, but what is the difference in the OS if I have ubuntu with KDE vs openSUSE with default KDE ?
[12:27] <Lyfer> phryk: What should I look for in the log?
[12:28] <MrWobz> I have two nics, one used for internet feed and one for sharing on two servers
[12:28] <bobweaver> MrWobz,  not sure but maybe adhoc it is called I could 100% be wrong on that one there
[12:28] <OerHeks> pentagonpie, the software/packagemanager and i asume the artwork
[12:28] <bobweaver> I have made switches out of router/firewalls
[12:29] <MrWobz> adhoc is sharing a wifi connection...
[12:29] <Lyfer> phryk: Trying to start the x server from there does not work properly. "No protocol specified"
[12:30] <phryk> Lyfer: From the tty? o_O
[12:30] <Lint> I cannot access stuff in a shareddisk partition
[12:30] <Lint> I have uid=1000 in both systems, but ubuntu shows everything owned by 500:500
[12:30] <Lint> why?
[12:30] <bobweaver> MrWobz,  do you have any old crappy boxs laying around ?
[12:31] <hdev> Is there an easy way to make particular applications launch in on a certain workspace using compiz/unity?
[12:31] <Lyfer> phryk: Yes. It tries to start but it goes black, then going back to the tty I see this message.
[12:31] <Lyfer> phryk: Over and over again.
[12:31] <phryk> Lyfer: I had lots of X-troubles, but that never happened to me…^^
[12:32] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  in tty type in lspci -nn | grep VGA
[12:32] <bobweaver> what is card Lyfer
[12:32] <Lyfer> bobweaver: Don't know. But I can get the X-server running. Not from there though.
[12:32] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  when it stalls on boot press ctrl+alt+f1
[12:33] <bobweaver> do you get to cammand screen ?
[12:33] <bobweaver> command *
[12:33] <Lyfer> bobweaver: Yes, I get that. I don't even know if it is the X-server that is the problem or something else that starts before that.
[12:33] <bobweaver> Dont run startx
[12:33] <Guest41493> Ubuntu sucks
[12:33] <MrWobz> bobweaver I dont have time to play around unfortunately, and one nic is disabled on the currently colocated box so I need to set it up now or rent a switch which is costly considering i have just two servers
[12:34] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  sign in and then run lspci -nn | grep VGA
[12:34] <Lyfer> bobweaver: Radeon Mobility X1600 - ATI.  Will restart it shortly.
[12:35] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  cool
[12:36] <g0bl1n> hi, anyone using login do an Ubuntu laptop with a Yubikey ?
[12:36] <g0bl1n> *to
[12:36] <g0bl1n> with OTP
[12:37] <Lyfer> bobweaver: [1002:71c5]
[12:37] <bobweaver> thanks Lyfer
[12:38] <bobweaver> Lyfer,   sudo lshw -C display     what driver is loaded ?
[12:39] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  configuration: driver=radeon ??
[12:40] <goodyob> How do I keep the volume, brightness, and connection settings from resetting each time I restart my laptop?
[12:40] <DarsVaeda1> hi, I placed a new button in the unity-quick-starter thing which opens a "gksudo command", problem is that after running that command all terminals get grouped to that command
[12:40] <DarsVaeda1> how do I get rid of that?
[12:41] <bobweaver> DarsVaeda,  can you show us the .desktop file ?
[12:41] <ReXHaviK> ubuntu is running on vbox-headless on a entertainment center server, vbox is serving up via rdp to client running ubuntu, rdp offers up sound to client, the issue is that i have sound coming out of both the client and the server, client has a bit of delay, can i keep sound from the vbox going to the client without denying the server sound,?
[12:41] <DarsVaeda> bobweaver: sure
[12:41] <Lyfer> bobweaver: Yes, and latency=0
[12:42] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  ok and cool ! lets see where it is erroring out         LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[12:42] <Guest41493> anyone knows what netcat is
[12:42] <Guest41493> ?
[12:42] <DarsVaeda> bobweaver:  if I remember what launcher files where called again
[12:42] <Lyfer> bobweaver: Should I write that?
[12:42] <bobweaver> !info netcat | Guest41493
[12:42] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  yup
[12:43] <bobweaver> Lyfer,   LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[12:43] <Guest41493> who wants my shell?
[12:43] <Lyfer> "Error: unable to open display"
[12:43] <Lyfer> ^ bobweaver
[12:43] <bobweaver> thanks Lyfer
[12:43] <Guest41493> nc <IP_ADDRESS> 1234
[12:44] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  try  glxinfo | grep vendor
[12:44] <Guest41493> if you want my shell im listening
[12:44] <Lyfer> bobweaver: "Error: unable to open display"
[12:44] <bobweaver> Guest41493,  do you have a ubuntu related question ?
[12:44] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  arghh
[12:44] <Guest41493> no
[12:44] <Guest41493> yes
[12:45] <Lint> !dpkg samba-bin
[12:45] <AlphaGuyy> Bob
[12:45] <Guest41493> i can't add icons to my desktop
[12:45] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  dmesg | grep drm
[12:45] <Lint> !version samba-bin
[12:46] <Lyfer> bobweaver: A screen full. Anything particular to look for?
[12:46] <AlphaGuyy> Anyone know how to partion a drive without formating it?
[12:46] <bobweaver> yes
[12:46] <bobweaver> Lyfer,   radeon kernel modesetting enabled. drm radeon: Initializing kernel modesetting.
[12:46] <totem> dr_willis: do you ubuntu too?
[12:47] <Lint> you are ignoring me
[12:47] <Guest41493> bobweaver, i have a questio how do i add icons to my desktop
[12:47] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  what ubuntu is this ? unity
[12:47] <Lyfer> bobweaver: Yes, that I have, followed by (RV530 and a bunch hex-numbers
[12:47] <OerHeks> !info samba
[12:47] <DarsVaeda> what are launcher files called again?
[12:47] <Lint> .desktop
[12:47] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  good
[12:48] <DarsVaeda> Lint: ahh the obvious -.- thanks
[12:48] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  brb coffee
[12:48] <Lint> is there samba-4 in ubuntu?
[12:50] <DarsVaeda> I placed a new button in the unity-quick-starter thing which opens a "gksudo command", problem is that after running that command all terminals get grouped to that command -> here is the launcher file: http://pastebin.com/pW4QP1AX
[12:51] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  what is ubuntu  version that you are using and desktop also plz
[12:53] <bobweaver> DarsVaeda,  change gksudo /usr/bin/eclipse    to     gnome-terminal --working-directory /usr/bin/ `bash -lc "gksudo /usr/bin/eclipse & "` ;
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> Lyfer  type lsb_release -sd
[12:53] <Lyfer> bobweaver: The problems started when I was updating to 11.10 and got a power outage in the middle of the process.
[12:53] <DarsVaeda> bobweaver: thanks!
[12:54] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  you got a hardrive to backup your stuff
[12:54] <Lyfer> bobweaver: All of what is important at least. :)
[12:54] <bobweaver> DarsVaeda,  that is not 100% so test out first
[12:54] <Lyfer> bobweaver: I would be willing to reinstall from scratch I guess.
[12:54] <Guest41493> nc <IP_ADDRESS> 1234
[12:54] <LmAt> I think yesterday I was disrespecting elinks.  I've since changed my mind.
[12:54] <bobweaver> DarsVaeda, you also do not need the --working--dir but it is good to have
[12:55] <Guest41493> connect to me
[12:55] <Lyfer> bobweaver: BUT it would be nice IF I could solve this anyway. Just because... :p
[12:55] <LmAt> I think that my problem is that I was using tmux over ssh which caused things to display very poorly.
[12:55] <Guest41493> is easy as 123
[12:55] <LmAt> I just reached over to the actual terminal and used it to load a page and it looks excellent!
[12:55] <bobweaver> Lyfer, yah I would back up my home folder and what not 1st and all that gazz
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> LmAt  screen over ssh works like a charm
[12:55] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  you could also try to upgrade to it right now after backing up hardrive
[12:56] <Lyfer> bobweaver: I have tried updating it. Nothing happens. It claims to be updated already.
[12:56] <bobweaver> Lyfer, a sudo do-release-upgrade -d  ?
[12:56] <Lyfer> bobweaver: I would like to try to clean out the startup config files
[12:56] <bobweaver> back up 1st
[12:57] <DarsVaeda> bobweaver: works in the terminal but not as a launcher
[12:57] <Lyfer> bobweaver: Now something is happening.
[12:58] <Lyfer> bobweaver: So what does this command mean? :-)
[12:58] <bobweaver> DarsVaeda, try to switch out gnome terminal with x-terminal-emulator -e
[12:59] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  that upgrades version
[12:59] <bobweaver> like from 10.10 to .11.0
[12:59] <Lyfer> bobweaver: And the -d option?
[12:59] <bobweaver> not sure
[12:59] <benjick> Hello. Is there any way I can preconfigure an iso for ubuntu? I want to just start the setup, punch in IP/gateway/dns and it should install the packages I've chosen
[12:59] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  but I 100% trust where I got that info
[13:00] <Guest41493> lmao
[13:00] <Attie> Guest41493; o/
[13:00] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  and I have ran it many many many times
[13:00] <Guest41493> ;)
[13:00] <Lyfer> bobweaver: Yeah, I don't mistrust it, I was just curious. :-)
[13:00] <Guest41493> Attie, can you please try to hack me
[13:00] <OerHeks> benjick, sounds like you want preseeding >> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html
[13:00] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  always ask questions !
[13:01] <bobweaver> \0/
[13:01] <Attie> uhh... why?
[13:01] <benjick> OerHeks: Is that available in newer versions of ubuntu?
[13:01] <Guest41493> or can you show me how
[13:01] <Lyfer> bobweaver: I thought I should consider this a time to learn more, rather than a "tear your hair" moment.
[13:01] <Xtreme> guys which audio player should i install for movies and music?
[13:01] <Xtreme> which is nice one?
[13:01] <OerHeks> benjick, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html is the same, and will be available in 12.04 too.
[13:02] <Attie> i'm sure google can help, what exactly are you trying to do?
[13:02] <Guest41493> not really
[13:02] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  I have a computer that was upgrading using them commands and my dog pulled the power cord out half way though so I feel your pain
[13:02] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: hmm
[13:02] <bobweaver> Lyfer,  but everything worked out in the end takes like 2 hr depends on connection
[13:02] <Guest41493> attie im scanning your ip with nmap
[13:02] <Guest41493> lol
[13:03] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: It might be my ssh client.  I'm using putty on Win XP...
[13:03] <bobweaver> !coc
[13:03] <Attie> good good
[13:03] <LmAt> Let me check outside of tmux.
[13:03] <Lyfer> bobweaver: I have a super-connection.   It must be my putty client.  How can i fix it?
[13:04] <bobweaver> Will some mod ban that fool he has 100% said that he is scanning people with nmap
[13:04] <benjick> OerHeks: thank you
[13:04] <Guest41493> bobweaver, you didn't even answer my question when i ask
[13:04] <shades> how do I get apt-get to forward through this?
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> LmAt  not sure what you mean, i'm familiar with putty on XP, but what is it you want to do
[13:04] <Guest41493> bobweaver, how do i add icons to my desktop
[13:04] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: In fact, even Tmux doesn't display correctly.  The divider between windows is a bunch of a with accent ague instead of blocks.
[13:04] <Guest41493> but nobody answers me
[13:04] <Xtreme> guys, i have installed flash player, but i am not getting any audio output from firefox
[13:04] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: I want it to display correctly.
[13:04] <Xtreme> what can i do?
[13:05] <nettezzaumana> would anyone tell me in short where's the settings of java for shells ? i have not ubuntu but need to deal with that on someone else's laptop .. there's some inane script update-java-alternatives not aware for 3rd party javas .. we have in suse this https://bugzillafiles.novell.org/attachment.cgi?id=478321 .. unfortunatelly i am an author so i'd say that it will be very easy to just point me where it is in ubuntu
[13:05] <nettezzaumana> thanks
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> LmAt  ah, so want to know how tmux works? dont know, i'm happy with byobu/screen
[13:06] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: No, it's not tmux.    I'm seeing this http://slexy.org/view/s2uYNUkLrQ (sorry for a little redundancy in it)
[13:09] <Xtreme> MonkeyDust: can u help?
[13:09] <LordXe-gnu> I just completed an update/upgrade using aptitude also, but no help
[13:09] <bluegoon> Hi guys
[13:09] <bluegoon> How do I browse my hard drive from terminal?
[13:10] <MrKeuner> LordXe-gnu, try  sudo apt-get reinstall wine
[13:10] <fidel> bluegoon: start with 'ls'
[13:10] <LordXe-gnu> bluebomber, how do you mean browse? like a command line file manager?
[13:10] <bobweaver> bluegoon,  how do you mean ?
[13:10] <fidel> or: man ls
[13:10] <LordXe-gnu> d'oh, meant bluegoon
[13:10] <nettezzaumana> would anyone tell me in short where's the settings of java for shells ? i have not ubuntu but need to deal with that on someone else's laptop .. there's some inane script update-java-alternatives not aware for 3rd party javas .. we have in suse this https://bugzillafiles.novell.org/attachment.cgi?id=478321 .. unfortunatelly i am an author so i'd say that it will be very easy to just point me where it is in ubuntu
[13:10] <LmAt> bluegoon: I'm a bit of a newb, but try "cd /".
[13:10] <LmAt> bluegoon: Unfortunately, other things besides your hard drive are in there, too.
[13:10] <bluegoon> LmAt: That would only go to the root folder.
[13:10] <LordXe-gnu> MrKeuner, it looked like it works but still no /usr/bin/wine after :/
[13:11] <LmAt> bluegoon: The linux file-system is very different than the Windows one.
[13:11] <MrKeuner> LordXe-gnu, try whereis wine
[13:11] <LmAt> bluegoon: Everything on your hard drive (I think) (and much more!) is under cd /
[13:11] <bluegoon> LmAt: I have a second internal hard drive, how do I browse to it in terminal?
[13:11] <geekbri> bluegoon: you can use cd to change directories and ls to list files in the diretories
[13:11] <LmAt> bluegoon: You have to ensure it's "mounted"
[13:11] <bobweaver> bluegoon,  there is a tutorial by a man named cazz giffen or something like that on youtube I 100% say watch it
[13:11] <fidel> bluegoon: depends on where you've mounted that drive
[13:11] <bluegoon> bobweaver: ok thank you
[13:11] <LmAt> bluegoon: What happens is You attach that hard drive to your computer, then you need to decide where it should show up under "cd /"
[13:11] <bobweaver> chazz giffen * IDK how to spell it
[13:12] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: in short, list the content (files) of the all wine related packages in your system
[13:12] <LordXe-gnu> MrKeuner, oh, curious... it found it in /usr/bin/wine but bash can't run it... hrm
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> LmAt i'm not familiar with tmux
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> Xtreme  with what?
[13:12] <geekbri> bluegoon: typing "mount" will show you all mounted drives, but that may not be overly helpful to you if you dont know the device name
[13:12] <LmAt> bluegoon: So you decide where it should go (perhaps /media/newdrive) and "mount" it there.
[13:12] <MrKeuner> LordXe-gnu, try ls -al /usr/bin/wine
[13:12] <nettezzaumana> chmod +x  LordXe-gnu
[13:12] <nettezzaumana> PROBABLY
[13:12] <LordXe-gnu> MrKeuner, indeed ls found it, very interesting
[13:12] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: It doesn't matter!  It's not an issue with tmux, it is my putty client.  But I guess you're wanting to know what it should look like and what it does look like... just a sec.
[13:12] <MrKeuner> LordXe-gnu, what are the permissions?
[13:13] <ariel__> does anybody here have aptana installed on ubuntu 11.10?
[13:13] <bobweaver> bluegoon,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UtIe4nL6BmY
[13:13] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: http://tmux.sourceforge.net/tmux5.png There's tmux.
[13:13] <bobweaver> that is the dude ^^
[13:13] <LordXe-gnu> MrKeuner, -rwxr-xr-x
[13:13] <Xtreme> MonkeyDust: i am not getting any sound from flashplayer in firefox.. i tried youtube and other sites
[13:13] <MrKeuner> LordXe-gnu, try running it as /usr/bin/wine instead of wine
[13:14] <LordXe-gnu> MrKeuner, same result
[13:14] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: full line ``ls -la /usr/bin/wine''
[13:14] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9684 2011-12-13 19:13 /usr/bin/wine
[13:14] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: And instead of the lines separating windows, I get the letter 'a' with hat accents (accent ague?).
[13:15] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: Also, in elinks, I lots of artifacts.
[13:15] <Firartix> Hello, is there any way to specify the default display manager to use ?
[13:15] <MrKeuner> LordXe-gnu, I would try sudo apt-get remove --purge wine before reinstalling it
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> LmAt  sorry dude, can't help
[13:15] <MrKeuner> LordXe-gnu, never seen this before
[13:15] <LordXe-gnu> MrKeuner, hm, worth a shot -- stand by :)
[13:15] <bobweaver> Finnish,  look at sudo update-alternitives --config x-windows-manager
[13:15] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: is ``ldd /usr/bin/wine'' without errors ?
[13:15] <nettezzaumana> no need to paste here or wherever
[13:15] <Firartix> Because i accidentally installed gdm, but i'd like to use lightdm anyway !
[13:15] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, 	not a dynamic executable (according to ldd)
[13:15] <bobweaver> Firartix,  sudo update-alternitives --config x-windows-manager   read it up 1st
[13:15] <llutz> LordXe-gnu: you are on amd64? maybe need to install ia32libs
[13:16] <LordXe-gnu> llutz, indeed I am on amd64
[13:16] <Firartix> okay, thanks, i'll have a look at this
[13:16] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: well, the wine invocation works ? eg you can type for example `wine notepad' in your ~/.wine/drive_c/.... ? so the wine fails ?
[13:17] <acicula> you do not need 32bit libs to run wine
[13:17] <crazydiamond> Hi. How to figure out what X config file is used now?
[13:17] <llutz> acicula: sure? "depends on ia32-libs" ....
[13:18] <bobweaver> crazydiamond,  update-alternitives --config x-windows-manager   read it up 1st
[13:18] <nettezzaumana> crazydiamond: no files is used now because the X reads a cfg file only on startup and then they closes() all FDs
[13:18] <Firartix> bobweaver: wait no, i meant the Display Manager, not Window manager
[13:18] <bobweaver> ahh
[13:18] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, nope it does not work
[13:18] <LordXe-gnu> so I have an interseting error here
[13:18] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: so the script /usr/bin/wine doesn't work correctly ? right ?
[13:19] <Xtreme> apt-get error "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[13:19] <LordXe-gnu> http://slexy.org/view/s2QeDMZv4Z <-- on trying to reinstall after remove --purge
[13:19] <nettezzaumana> but i's not like that you've annouced that the wine has disappeared from your system
[13:19] <Xtreme> i tried killing apt-get
[13:19] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: I crashed irssi by trying to put in odd characters :-/
[13:19] <shades> apt-get really needs to be ble to specify to reap through a proxy
[13:19] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: How would you put in the extended ascii 195 for instance from http://www.asciitable.com/
[13:19] <auronandace> !fixapt | Xtreme
[13:19] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, yeah I was unable to execute it at all.. though now I'm trying to reinstall it so I don't have it atm to try ;p
[13:20] <bobweaver> Firartix,  what do you get with sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager  I could be wrong on this one please read up
[13:20] <acicula> llutz: err im on 64bit and i dont see that dependency show up for wine
[13:20] <ayaka> thank you all
[13:20] <nimesh_accenture> guys i'm  getting this error on ubuntu-core 11.10 chrooted on Android ICS :  Temporary failure resolving 'ports.ubuntu.com' . is this a DNS issue? i changed /etc/resolve.conf with my local DNS ip add... the ubuntu-server version 11.10 works fine..
[13:20] <llutz> acicula: i'm on 64bit too and thats a line from "apt-cache depends wine", but i'm on debian...
[13:20] <LordXe-gnu> (this looks bad because it's leaving ia32-libs unresolved as llutz mentioned I might need)
[13:20] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: are you some real newbie in linux ? asking because of need to decide what way out i'll point you
[13:21] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: In doss command.com, it's straightforward: while holding alt, press 1,9,5
[13:21] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, no I've been around the linux block so to speak ;p
[13:21] <Firartix> bobweaver: it lists up the display managers, ie. awesome/mutter/fluxbox/etc
[13:21] <Xtreme> auronandace: same error
[13:21] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: I tried that same procedure and got Capital A.
[13:21] <acicula> llutz: thats what i did too, wasnt in the list
[13:21] <LmAt> No, I get A with a tilde over it.
[13:21] <Firartix> * 0            /usr/bin/metacity       60        mode automatique
[13:21] <Firartix>   1            /usr/bin/awesome        20        mode manuel
[13:22] <llutz> acicula: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/wine    lists ia32-libs
[13:22] <bobweaver> Firartix,  what is dm that you want ?
[13:22] <LmAt> MonkeyDust: Anytay, when an application attempts to write these characters to putty, they aren't displayed correctly.
[13:22] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: `set -x; exec 2>/tmp/wine_wrapper.log;' on the 2nd line of wine wrapper and happy debugging, should be quite easy
[13:22] <auronandace> Xtreme: try sudo apt-get install -f
[13:22] <Firartix> just lightdm
[13:22] <Firartix> instead of gdm
[13:23] <bobweaver> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[13:23] <Firartix> since it's not installed anymore <_<
[13:23] <Xtreme> thanks, it worked
[13:23] <Xtreme> trying to install pulseaudio to get audio working in firefox
[13:23] <auronandace> Xtreme: never kill apt-get
[13:23] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, I'm not able to convince wine to even execute ;p I think llutz may be on to i though... I have had this problem before where a lib for the wrong arch (either 32- or 64-bit) is "ignored" and everything just acts like it doesn't exist, hm.
[13:24] <acicula> llutz: indeed it does, i checked with precise, which uses wine1.4, its dropped there. so sorry for the confusion
[13:24] <mbrochh> hey guys... the app switching in Ubuntu is driving me crazy... I think I have already disabled the app switcher that comes with Unity, but the "normal" one is still not good. The problem is that it shows the open apps as an endless array of three items that rotate infinitively. Is there a way to just have the super oldschool normal appswitcher Windows used to have? Just show me a list of icons and
[13:24] <mbrochh>  they stay at their positions when I tab, when I reach the end of the list, the frame can jump to the beginning. After switching, another
[13:24] <bobweaver> Firartix,  might need sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm 1st same place in the end
[13:24] <Xtreme> damn, iyou are right.. i killed it
[13:24] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, but thanks for the suggestion I will see if I can squeeze any info out of it
[13:24] <Firartix> uuuuuuuh strangely reconfigure says lightdm isn't installed
[13:24] <Firartix> even though it's launched right now
[13:24] <llutz> acicula: well, precise is not part of the discussion here (yet) ;)
[13:24] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: yes, of course you will
[13:24] <bobweaver> umm
[13:25] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: with debugging script you clearly see where it fails and if you know where it fails you can fix it
[13:25] <bobweaver> Firartix,  did you try with gdm in place of lightdm ?
[13:25] <bobweaver> Firartix, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[13:25] <bobweaver> Firartix,  does that see it ?
[13:26] <Firartix> well gdm isn't installed at all
[13:26] <acicula> llutz: yeah i am aware :)
[13:26] <Xtreme> auronandace: it worked after insalling pulseaudio
[13:26] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, this wine wrapper, it's a script that exists or you are suggesting that I wrap wine itself in a script to redirect stderr?
[13:26] <Firartix> but re-installing it seems to prompt for which dm to use
[13:26] <Firartix> should be good now
[13:26] <bobweaver> Firartix,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm   ?
[13:26] <Firartix> thanks
[13:27] <bobweaver> Firartix,  \o/
[13:30] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: /usr/bin/wine == wine wrapper in my terminology as far as you've reported that ldd failed thus it's script ;)
[13:31] <Xtreme> how can i kill pulseaudio dameon?
[13:31] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: so backup this one and start there
[13:31] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, it's not a script; file reports a 32-bit ELF
[13:31] <srinivasarao> 3g usb modem not working in ubuntu 11.10,can any one help?
[13:32] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, it's also strange that bash would try to execute /usr/bin/wine when I type only "wine" if the file wasn't there... I think this is a libs problem :/
[13:32] <nettezzaumana> ah, i badly rereaded .. not dynamic executable
[13:32] <bobweaver> Xtopherus,  ps aux | grep [p]ulseaudo    what is pid ?
[13:32] <nepta> hello everyone! i would like to know if there are a graphical way to configure my touchpad sensibility
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> srinivasarao  you may need usb-modeswitch
[13:32] <bobweaver> dang it Xtreme  ^^
[13:32] <srinivasarao> initially it used to work fine
[13:32] <srinivasarao> recently it stopped working
[13:33] <srinivasarao> showing ,modem disconnected ,you are off line at network manager
[13:33] <srinivasarao> but working well with windows
[13:33] <nettezzaumana> LordXe-gnu: well, you have to first ensure yourself, that the wine package itself is not broken and installed, once you accomplish this you can go futher
[13:33] <nettezzaumana> **further
[13:34] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, I try remove --purge and install on it, that seemed to go all right, minus some ominous warnings from apt
[13:34] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, also curious, file reports it as dynamic
[13:35] <bluegoon> Is it better to install the x32 bit version of Ubuntu, rather than the x64 bit?
[13:35] <srinivasarao> 3g usb modem not working in ubuntu 11.10,can any one help?
[13:35] <bluegoon> srinivasarao: Try a different USB port?
[13:35] <bobweaver> bluegoon,  depends on Ram and cpu IMHO
[13:35] <BlouBlou> bluegoon: it is better if you have a 32-bits machine
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> bluegoon  depends on your hardware, 32 runs on both 32 and 64 bit, but 64 runs on 64bit hardware only
[13:35] <bluegoon> BlouBlou: Hi there, I have an i5 processor.
[13:36] <bobweaver> bluegoon,  what is ram ?
[13:36] <bluegoon> Are there any performance differences between the 32 and 64 bit variants?
[13:36] <bobweaver> bluegoon,  in terminal do a     free -m
[13:36] <bluegoon> bobweaver: 4 gigs, do RAM ammounts not only matter with Windows 64/32?
[13:37] <bobweaver> bluegoon,  I would go 64 as 12.04 is not multi arch
[13:37] <bobweaver> s|not|now
[13:37] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/852101 seems relevant, going to have a read and see if they have any ideas there
[13:37] <BlouBlou> bluegoon: 64-bits uses more ram, but it compiles faster
[13:37] <BlouBlou> no idea if it has a better perfomance
[13:37] <bluegoon> BlouBlou: OK thank you
[13:38] <bobweaver> bluegoon,  I am on 64bit right now and love it I have i3 with 4 gigs ram
[13:38] <Timmy> is kernel 3.3 available for ubuntu 11.10?
[13:38] <bobweaver> Timmy 3.4r3 I think it lastest in mainline
[13:38] <bluegoon> bobweaver: Sounds good
[13:38] <bobweaver> !mainline | Timmy
[13:38] <auronandace> Timmy: officially no
[13:38] <Timmy> is there any applet to show the speed of network connection? something like netspeed in gnome
[13:39] <LordXe-gnu> nettezzaumana, the workaround at the top appears to have resolved it :D thanks for hanging in there with me ;p also thanks llutz and MrKeuner
[13:39] <bobweaver> Timmy apt-cache search bandwidth monitor
[13:40] <bobweaver> !info bmon
[13:40] <Codesleuth> Is there a way to print all UFW rules when it's disabled? All I get is "Status: inactive" with status numbered
[13:40] <Duality> how to unzip from command line (.zip file)
[13:41] <BlouBlou> Codesleuth: no idea, but I'm sure that you can get that list with gufw
[13:41] <Foggalong> I'm trying to install the Medibuntu updates but it keeps saying they're not from a trusted source :/
[13:41] <Pici> Duality: unzip file.zip
[13:41] <SunTsu> Duality: unzip zipfile?
[13:41] <Codesleuth> BlouBlou: ubuntu server
[13:41] <Codesleuth> isn't gufw for desktop?
[13:42] <Duality> lol i tried gzip and it now is file.zip.gz
[13:42] <Duality> how do i uncompress .gz ?
[13:42] <LjL> Duality: gunzip
[13:42] <BlouBlou> mhh.. yeah, I thought you were using a desktop enviroment
[13:42] <bobweaver> Codesleuth,  do you mess with iptables ?
[13:42] <Duality> (sorry bit of a newb here)
[13:42] <viceman011> Duality: now you gzipped it, ungzip it by running gzip -d file.zip.gz
[13:42] <mbeierl> I have an ISP that hijacks all DNS queries and responds with answers from their own servers.  They also have an SOA record for .local, which means Avahi/network discovery is completely broken for me at home now.  The ISP is not going to fix this situation any time soon.  Does anyone have any clues on how to get around this and make Avahi work again?
[13:42] <Codesleuth> bobweaver: I want to print the current rules without enabling it
[13:43] <viceman011> Duality: and then unzip file.zip
[13:43] <SunTsu> Duality: You might want to read stuff about linux and/or ubuntu basics instead of asking inside a ubuntu support channel, though
[13:43] <viceman011> yeah, you'd get faster answer on google :)
[13:43] <Codesleuth> bobweaver: I understand I can just look at the iptables but I was just curious to see if there was a way to use the ufw rules list
[13:43] <bluegoon> SunTsu: Think the chat support is great for interactive learning :)
[13:44] <Duality> no i now how to do stuff from command line :) been using ubuntu server for quite a while now, just didn't know how to unzip file's :)
[13:44] <Duality> newb to --> unzipping files
[13:44] <SunTsu> bluegoon: I don't think so, because it wastes everybody's time
[13:44] <BlouBlou> SunTsu: I thought we were volunteering
[13:44] <li0s> Does anyone know why suddenly my folder ~/.local/Trash/Expunged filled up my Disk free space becoming my Distro unable to boot?
[13:45] <Pumpkin-> mbeierl: ergh, that sounds like a horrific ISP :/
[13:45] <li0s> becoming=forcing*
[13:45] <bobweaver> Codesleuth,  have  you looked under /etc/ufw/before/after.rules   ?
[13:45] <srinivasarao> how to install usb mode switch in ubuntu 11.10
[13:45] <BlouBlou> SunTsu: so if you think that answering a "noob" question is a waste of time, just don't do it. Well it's my opinion
[13:45] <Codesleuth> bobweaver, no, but I guess the answer you're suggesting is "no" :p
[13:46] <mbeierl> Pumpkin-, yep.  Welcome to living in Ottawa, Canada - where if you are rural, yet in the city limits, you MUST use this horrid ISP called Xplornet.  No alternative available.  And I can't get them to fix their busted DNS
[13:46] <bobweaver> yeah /etc/ is usally where confiuration files are but I would also goolge that
[13:46] <SunTsu> BlouBlou: docs are there for a reason
[13:46] <bobweaver> Codesleuth, ^^
[13:46] <nepta> i can move my mouse without touching my touchpad, can i reduce the sensibility somehow ?
[13:46] <BlouBlou> SunTsu: we're here for a reason ;)
[13:46] <bluegoon> SunTsu: Alot of the docs arent really mainstream friendly.
[13:47] <mbeierl> nepta, Telekenesis? :)
[13:47] <bobweaver> nepta,  go under system settings ---> mouse-->touchpad
[13:47] <nepta> bobweaver: there aren't any option for the sensitivity : (
[13:48] <bobweaver> Oo
[13:48] <ziyadb> Would it be acceptable to completely forgo the use of a swap partition given large enough RAM?
[13:48] <Oryel> moze ktos pomoze z post fixsem
[13:49] <bobweaver> nepta, http://postimage.org/image/oj8aejokn/full/
[13:49] <twikzer> hola?
[13:49] <sent> !es | twikzer
[13:49] <Pumpkin-> mbeierl: short of tunneling the DNS traffic or something similar to escape the ISP's DNS hijacking, or running your own local caching DNS server (with it configured to return NXDOMAIN for .local) I can't really think of what else you can do
[13:50] <Codesleuth> bobweaver: fyi "UFW show listening" shows listening and matching rules - sort of half of what I need ;)
[13:50] <bobweaver> Codesleuth,  \0/
[13:51] <mbeierl> Pumpkin-, I am running dnsmasq, but I can't seem to tell it to return nx for .local.  I read somewhere that as long as an SOA exists, it's broken
[13:53] <nepta> bobweaver: http://postimage.org/image/l408v0mup/ (what the soft you use for the configuration?)
[13:54] <Duality> i love ubuntu server ^^
[13:54] <bobweaver> nepta, just stock unity stuff not lxde
[13:55] <Sevith> I get an error with GCc saying -lcuda is not found. How can I fix this? Im trying to install pyrit/CUDA
[13:55] <Sevith> with an nvida 560M
[13:56] <Sevith> Also should ld paths ever be set?
[13:56] <Sevith> ld library path*
[14:01] <jalal_> hey guys
[14:01] <Sevith> hi
[14:01] <jalal_> need help
[14:01] <Sevith> With?
[14:02] <Red_Baron> Hello Everyone
[14:02] <jalal_> with update
[14:02] <Sevith> ok?
[14:02] <jalal_> i am not able to update via apt-get update
[14:02] <Sevith> Ok? what error does it throw>
[14:02] <Patil_great>  Hi, i need sample makefile for arm for pandaboard
[14:02] <jalal_> it only shows connect to repostriy
[14:02] <jalal_> but not connectiong
[14:02] <Sevith> do
[14:03] <Sevith> sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:03] <Sevith> lol
[14:03] <jalal_> this also not work
[14:03] <compdoc> jalal_, update only refreshes the server lists. upgrade applies update/upgrades
[14:03] <jalal_> apt-get install anysoft
[14:03] <jalal_> doest work
[14:03] <compdoc> you must do sudo apt-get
[14:03] <jalal_> i m root brother
[14:03] <Sevith> then you shouldnt be in xchat
[14:03] <Sevith> lol
[14:03] <Sevith> as root
[14:03] <Sevith> or
[14:03] <jalal_> i mean
[14:03] <FloodBot1> Sevith: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:03] <jalal_> su
[14:03] <Sevith> irc*
[14:03] <compdoc> root is evil
[14:04] <Sevith> Anyone know gcc -lcuda cpyrit pyrit cuda nvid 560M plz plz...
[14:04] <jalal_> i knows
[14:04] <Patil_great> Hi, i need sample makefile for arm for pandaboard
[14:04] <jalal_> any solution for that?
[14:05] <compdoc> what happens when you run the command?
[14:05] <jalal_> yes
[14:05] <compdoc> what errors?
[14:05] <jalal_> i will post out put
[14:06] <compdoc> ok
[14:06] <jalal_> it only show connecting
[14:06] <maexwell> hi
[14:06] <maexwell> im in need of help
[14:06] <sent> !ask | maexwell
[14:07] <jalal_> my net is fast
[14:07] <jalal_> but why i am not able to install via apt-get
[14:07] <compdoc> can you ping sites like google?
[14:07] <landono> I'm currently working with a server that is a slave to one of our mysql servers. The replication is about 14 hours behind, and I'm trying to figure out what's bottlenecking it. While the cpu usage is about 7-8%, the server is running two 6 core amd processors, and from what I've read mysql replication is a single threaded process. While I think the bottleneck is the cpu, a co-worker of mine thinks it may be the io on th storage that's killing it.
[14:07] <landono> Anyone have any advice on what tools I should use and how I should run them to figure out which one is causing this issue?
[14:08] <jalal_> yes i can ping
[14:08] <Kircle> Where do I go to submit a bug about the Linux kernel?
[14:08] <jalal_> what is bug kircle?
[14:09] <Patil_great> i am trying to cross compile cxp210 driver for arm for pandaboard i am getting /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic/arch/arm/include/asm/irqflags.h:12:5: warning: "__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__" is not defined
[14:09] <intore___> hi, hope someone can help me even if this is ubuntu channel. am configuring an ldap server on debian squeeze. i    installed and configured nslcd but i can't see all the user  of   the directory ldap. i created an user on ldap used by  nslcd for   lookups and i put it in the nslcd.conf as binddn  but it doesn't   run. do you have ideas?
[14:09] <Kircle> jalal_ Ever since updating to '3.4.0-030400rc2-generic' one out of ten times I go into hibernation it'll freeze. I then have to force shutdown as I'm unable to do anything.
[14:10] <maexwell> !ask i had win7 and ubuntu 11.10 and installed 12.04 beta2 by overwriting exiting ubutuntu. it broke my grub and now i'm running on live dvd. I found some instructions to update grub but i dont find terminal by writing it to the bash
[14:10] <llutz> intore___: this is #ubuntu only, you want to ask in #debian
[14:11] <martian> I'm connected to a 10.04.4LTS VPS hosted that was configured by an ISP. My shell environment doesn't have the fancy ubuntu command autocomplete working.  Pumpkin- ahh, thanks. Just wasn't sure where to begin looking.
[14:12] <llutz> keber: do you have any ubuntu related question?
[14:12] <wurmt0ngue> I accidentally removed the battery charge indicator/mail/user icons from the panel up top, can anyone tell me how to get those back?
[14:13] <Kircle> Where do I go to submit a Linux kernel bug?
[14:13] <maexwell> Here is my problem.. i had win7 and ubuntu 11.10 and installed 12.04 beta2 by overwriting exiting ubutuntu. it broke my grub and now i'm running on live dvd. I found some instructions to update grub but i dont find terminal by writing it to the bash
[14:14] <tapas> hi, is there a tool that can extract layers from a photoshop psd file automatically?
[14:14] <iceroot> maexwell: bash is the place where you put the terminal commands
[14:14] <gvo> wurmt0ngue: Right click on the menu bar and add  "Indicator applet"
[14:14] <iceroot> Kircle: lkml.org
[14:14] <maexwell> oh okay. I liked the old fashioned way
[14:15] <iceroot> Kircle: but easier is "ubuntu-bug linux" and our kernel.maintainers will report it upstream if needed
[14:15] <gvo> !12.04| maexwell
[14:15] <martian> Pumpkin-: bash-completion did the trick; thanks!
[14:15] <Kircle> iceroot ah thanks I'll try the latter
[14:15] <iceroot> kjs: but please only when you are using the ubuntu-kernel
[14:15] <wurmt0ngue> can anyone tell me what the name of the applet is in gnome that has battery charge indicator, i need to re add it
[14:15] <iceroot> kjs: wrong nick
[14:16] <gvo> wurmt0ngue: I suggested a fix did it not work?
[14:17] <finnguy> this probably isn't some regular computer help channel, please forward me elsewhere if you know a better one.. but i've got a new computer and I can't get sounds working well. they crackle A LOT
[14:17] <JohnnyricoMC> Are you using Windows or Ubuntu on it?
[14:17] <finnguy> Ubuntu now
[14:17] <JohnnyricoMC> hmmmm
[14:18] <JohnnyricoMC> You're sure everything is plugged in properly?
[14:19] <finnguy> I think so... Sound device is integrated i think? I try to use speakers from the back of computer, a lot  crackling. I try to use headphones from front, same thing.
[14:19] <JohnnyricoMC> If everything is plugged in properly and the problem persists, then I have "good" news: it could be a known problem
[14:19] <JohnnyricoMC> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1759570
[14:22] <pteague_work> anybody know how /var/run/motd is generated?
[14:22] <JohnnyricoMC> I believe it's fetched from /etc/motd?
[14:22] <finnguy> ok. im using 10.04. with the mainboard came some other small live cd operating system, probably linux based , called winki3.. there was crackling too.
[14:22] <finnguy> not as much though
[14:23] <finnguy> in ubuntu, it crackles like hell
[14:23] <Rienzilla> pteague_work: I think it's a script that puts uname -a and /etc/motd together
[14:25] <pteague_work> Rienzilla, i've been trying to figure out why a couple of our boxes keep saying they need to be rebooted when the guy that last updated insists he already rebooted them so i'm thinking there's a bit more than that
[14:26] <dgtl> hi there, i'm currently using ubuntu 11.04 with flashplugin-install <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>, when i'm watching a video on youtube, it appears partly blue/purple, i wonder if you could get me any hint on how to fix this
[14:27] <pteague_work> aha... i think i figured out the issue... update-motd is not installed
[14:28] <Nucleus> Which is the name of the programme that runs the desktop as a 3D cube and also makes the opended windows looks like papers ?
[14:28] <josefig> someone knows why this is happening: a Console is over everything if I open another window: http://josefigueroa.me/images/overflow-terminal-window.png it happens on unity, I tried KDE and is not happening
[14:28] <auronandace> Nucleus: compiz fusion
[14:28] <dgtl> compiz-fusion i guess
[14:29] <Nucleus> Thank you
[14:29] <hemicuda> how do i add icons to my desktop?
[14:29] <Peanut> Hi folks - where could I find the netboot images of Precise Pangolin Beta 2? I've been looking all over the site.
[14:29] <splnet> How do I download the source for kernel version 3.0.0-17-generic ?
[14:30] <auronandace> !source
[14:30] <troubled> good day fine folks of #ubuntu :)
[14:31] <troubled> I have a question about xfce+thunar+lvm, but I am on an plain ubuntu install, not specifically xubuntu. Would it be better to ask xfce related stuff here or #xubuntu?
[14:31] <auronandace> troubled: either is ine
[14:32] <auronandace> fine
[14:32] <troubled> auronandace: ahh, very well then, ty
[14:33] <nvictor> hai all o/
[14:33] <nvictor> so why can't i add new links to pg_wrapper?
[14:33] <troubled> Well, to summarize, I dist-upgraded from 10.04 all the way up to 11.10 the other day, and then moved from gnome+unity to lightdm->xfce4 session for my login. All is setup nice, except that I find that thunar (which I set in preferred apps) doesn't see my LVM LV's now :(
[14:33] <s4lt-f4t44s> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYPABCJvneU&feature=fvsr
[14:34] <troubled> I looked at the udisk enumeration list, and they are all there, but just thunar doesn't wanna show me them anymore. I did fiddle and get naut to show them for a bit, but even that seems to have stopped now
[14:34] <tbrown> I have a ?ion to ask can I Develop linux destro with Visual Studio?
[14:34] <auronandace> tbrown: i sincerely doubt it
[14:35] <tbrown> auronandace: What is the Development Code for Ubuntu is it C++ or Just C
[14:36] <auronandace> tbrown: i know some bits are python
[14:36] <splnet> auronandace: I ran 'apt-get source linux-image-3.0.0-17-generic'. But in the Makefile, it shows the version is: 3.0.0-22  (SUBLEVEL = 22) instead of 17
[14:36] <dgtl> hi there, i'm currently using ubuntu 11.04 with flashplugin-install <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>, when i'm watching a video on youtube, it appears partly blue/purple (white ppl are looking like smurfs), i wonder if you could get me any hint on how to fix this
[14:37] <auronandace> dgtl: check hardware accelleration
[14:37] <Pici> dgtl: right click on the video to get to your flash preferences and toggle hardware acceleration.
[14:38] <troubled> also while I am here (for any of the UI folks here), a comment on unity: It's nice on its own if I were starting from scratch install and settings. But loosing all my panel sensors and moving my 30+ panel icons into one big mashed up/angled list on the side of my screen, was very painful, thus my move to xfce. perhaps better migration of existing layout would have been better :)
[14:38] <auronandace> troubled: i doubt any unity developers are here, so your comment wouldn't be seen by them
[14:39] <Pici> troubled: #ubuntu-unity is their home.
[14:39] <troubled> auronandace: you never know. besides, the distro folks can always augment stuff :)
[14:39] <Pici> #ubuntu is strictly support.
[14:39] <dgtl> auronandace, Pici, thanks, that fixed the problem, but not using hw acceleration is not really a solution to this
[14:39] <troubled> Pici: *nod*
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> !brainstorm| troubled
[14:40] <troubled> MonkeyDust: oh neat, thanks, ill take a look later
[14:40] <splnet> Is this the right area to ask about ubuntu kernel source issues, or is there a better channel?
[14:40] <dgtl> it seems like this problem was known to ubuntu, i wonder why they took the new flash package into their package-tree
[14:42] <dgtl> okay, i guess after unity, there is not much left to wonder about...
[14:42] <ThadiusB> what type of graphics card is the least problematic setting up in 10.04 ??
[14:43] <dgtl> ubuntu 11.4 - the last usable ubuntu
[14:43] <compdoc> naw
[14:43] <compdoc> not true
[14:43] <Lint> I cannot access stuff in a shareddisk partition
[14:43] <Lint> I have uid=1000 in both systems, but ubuntu shows everything owned by 500:500
[14:44] <dgtl> compdoc, its totally true (at least for me), as a *nix sysadmin, you can be 100% sure that you dont want to work with unity
[14:44] <dgtl> thats a total mess
[14:44] <LjL> please keep this about support
[14:44] <tomasm-> hi, in ubuntu, is there a way with a toolbar applet, etc that can change my keyboard to use a cyrillic (russian) alphabet layout? i'd like a real easy way to switch alphabets so I can start typing something in russian on a webpage
[14:44] <dgtl> LjL, showstopper!
[14:44] <SunTsu> dgtl: what does using unity have to do with being a system administrator? And why on earth don't you use something else?
[14:44] <meganerd> Lint: what remote protocol are you using?
[14:45] <Lint> tomasm-, gnome does it automatically and put the icon to notification area
[14:45] <compdoc> I use ubuntu desktop on several servers, ranging in versions from 10.04 to 11.10. No problems - its all stable. And Unity is just a bit annoying, but its useable
[14:45] <Lint> meganerd, no remote, it´s fstab mounted partition
[14:45] <LjL> tomasm-: type "keyboard layout" in unity, add a Russian layout, and the icon will appear
[14:45] <meganerd> compdoc: why bother with X on a server?
[14:45] <meganerd> Lint: which fs is it?
[14:46] <tomasm-> Lint,  I use classic gnome, not unity
[14:46] <Lint> tomasm-, the default swith combination may be shift/shift
[14:46] <Lint> meganerd, ext3
[14:46] <compdoc> I like gui desktops - comes from years of Windows use
[14:46] <dgtl> SunTsu, i mean, its not only ubuntus fault, i hate gnome-shell aswell, i'm just not able to do my work with unity, thats all
[14:46] <compdoc> and Mac
[14:46] <meganerd> Lint: which user is 500?
[14:46] <LjL> can we please move the Unity etc discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[14:46] <tomasm-> Lint, do you know if there's a keyboard layout tool in gnome classic?
[14:46] <SunTsu> dgtl: use something else, problem solved, now back to ubuntu support
[14:47] <Lint> tomasm-, moving keyboard switch to gnome-session-daemon predates unity
[14:47] <auronandace> dgtl: you can only work with gnome2 and you call yourself a sysadmin?
[14:47] <dgtl> auronandace, theres a difference between knowing how to use something and being productive with it
[14:48] <splnet> Any other ideas how to get source for linux-image-3.0.0-17-generic ? I ran 'apt-get source linux-image-3.0.0-17-generic'. But in the Makefile, it shows the version is: 3.0.0-22  (SUBLEVEL = 22) instead of 17
[14:48] <Lint> meganerd, I don´t remember. my user account which can access the files is 1000, though
[14:48] <LjL> stop the bickering about Unity and sysadmins
[14:48] <LjL> or move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:48] <dgtl> SunTsu, not so easy to find something that fits, okay, end of topic
[14:48] <Lint> tomasm-, do you have russain keyboard added?
[14:48] <ThadiusB> so what graphics cards have people had success with?
[14:48] <troubled> is there anyone here perhaps that uses xfce4 in 11.10, and has LVM? if so, I wouldn't mind knowing if it works as expected, mine seems to be broken atm (manual mounting only)
[14:49] <Lint> ThadiusB, for what purpose?
[14:49] <tomasm-> Lint, no, I don't know how.... is the keyboard layout tool youre talkin about 'libgnomekbd' or 'gkbd-applet'?
[14:49] <RyoRonin> nvidia graphics chipsets
[14:49] <troubled> specifically when using thunar though as file manager, i should add. the problem is that I seem to be missing my LV's from the thunar side panel that normally has the option to mount/unmount them
[14:49] <Lint> gnome-control-center
[14:50] <Lint> applet is dead and gone
[14:50] <tomasm-> Lint, ah, ok thanks
[14:50] <meganerd> Lint: grep 500 /etc/passwd
[14:50] <meganerd> Lint: of course "sudo chown -R" is your friend.
[14:50] <meganerd> Lint: sudo chmod is also your friend
[14:51] <genii-around> I don't think there is usually a user or service with uid of 500 in Ubuntu
[14:51] <Lint> meganerd, it works without chown in other distro
[14:51] <Lint> but ubuntu has no access
[14:51] <idkguy> anyone ever installed joomla to a lamp server? how to i add the json support for php?
[14:52] <Lint> sadly its fstab in on ext4 filesystem which I cannot browse now
[14:52] <StR> I have a question about chmod,  is it possible to set some flags with it, so that everytime a file is created in that folder it has write perms for the group... is that possible? is this the right channel to ask?
[14:53] <meganerd> Lint: create a group on both distros, manually specify the GUID, then chown to that group
[14:53] <troubled> StR: you mean like a umask perhaps?
[14:53] <troubled> StR: or do you mean just for specific dirs/files?
[14:53] <meganerd> StR: sticky bit, google for unix file permissions
[14:53] <wangor> is there any difference between using "/etc/init.d/servicename start" vs "service servicename start" vs "start servicename" ?
[14:53] <StR> troubled, probably but haven't find how
[14:54] <Ca11um> I have downloaded a login theme, with the file 'GdmGreeterTheme.desktop'...
[14:54] <Ca11um> How do I install it as my login theme?
[14:54] <Lint> I share my uid already, shouldn´t it be enough?
[14:54] <idkguy> how do i add json support to a map server? it doesnt seem like in included it by default
[14:54] <meganerd> Lint: but the files are not owned by that UID
[14:54] <troubled> StR: sorry, i missed the second part in this wall-o-text about the write perms for group. you mean like g+ws i think
[14:54] <meganerd> 500:500 is user:group
[14:54] <Lint> meganerd, then how you will explain the user 1000 can access them?
[14:55] <meganerd> Lint: chances are your user is part of a group with GID of 500 on the other distro
[14:55] <Lint> *that...
[14:55] <StR> meganerd, yes.. I found it's possible to set the sicky bit for all new files to be owned by a specific group, but not to force it to be g+w
[14:55] <genii-around> wangor: /etc/init.d/whatever calls the old sysvinit way, the other two use upstart ( which may or may not then in turn call /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf to run those old ones in /etc/init.d )
[14:55] <gregL> idkguy: One of my servers needed libjson-perl ,perhaps that will help.. Just a shot..
[14:55] <Lint> meganerd, ok I will check it out
[14:55] <tomasm-> Lint, thanks, it works great now, and I have a keystroke to toggle it.... you know if it's possible to say the layout on the toolbar icon? ie "EN", "RU", etc
[14:55] <wangor> genii-around: thanks
[14:55] <idkguy> gregL did you install it with apt-get?
[14:55] <gregL> yes
[14:56] <gregL> idkguy, yes
[14:56] <Lint> tomasm-, icon is placed into notification area
[14:56] <idkguy> gregL cool ill try that
[14:56] <Lint> it should show the keyboard icon and ¨Rus¨ or  ¨Eng¨ text
[14:56] <tomasm-> Lint, yes i see the icon, it just looks like a keyboard rather than say anything on top of the icon as to what layout/language, etc is active. i have to click on it to find out, i was hoping there could be something visible at all times
[14:57] <Lint> you don´t see text?
[14:57] <tomasm-> Lint, no, just the icon
[14:58] <tomasm-> Lint, it may be because its gnome classic
[14:58] <troubled> StR: personally I would suggest looking into umasks if you want newly created files to have certain permissions by default. the default is 0022, but it sounds like you want at least some process to be more like 0002 or something similar
[14:58] <StR> troubled, right, but for a specific folder
[14:59] <troubled> StR: well, thats the limitation i suppose. unless you had 1 specific process that only wrote to that dir that you could setup a pam setup environment that set the umask for it
[15:00] <troubled> StR: otherwise I suppose you could enter the realm of mandatory access controls (MAC) and allow more liberal DAC (discretionary/file permissions) and restrict things via something like apparmour or selinux. but thats getting a little complicated
[15:00] <WolfDev> does anyone know how I can get the version of Ubuntu?
[15:01] <Lint> tomasm-, gnome shell shows the language code like ¨en¨ instead, you could try it
[15:01] <troubled> StR: that, or patch the software in question to specifically do what you need
[15:01] <Lint> WolfDev, /etc/lsb-release file
[15:01]  * troubled ponders about directory monitoring solution
[15:01] <StR> troubled, let me tell you what my problem is, I'm probably stuck in "my" solution.
[15:01] <WolfDev> Lint, thanks.
[15:01] <compdoc> WolfDev, or the command:    lsb_release -a
[15:02] <WolfDev> let me try that one too.
[15:03] <WolfDev> permission denied
[15:03] <compdoc> I can run lsb_release -a without using sudo
[15:03] <StR> troubled, I have a folder, /var/www with the website to be shown by apache,  the files to that folder is handled by SVN, so when I do svn up, all the files in that folder get in sync with the repository;  but there are times some other files are created by hand in the folder; the issue is that different users can ssh to the server and change the files in that folder
[15:04] <gvo> compdoc: what's it do when you try it?
[15:04] <compdoc> shows me the release
[15:04] <gvo> Then I guess you don't need sudo.
[15:04] <thebwt> is there a way to have a system automatically run a script (alert/alarm) if it is booted into single user mode?
[15:04] <compdoc> for this server - its 11.10
[15:04] <StR> troubled, with chmod g+s I was able to set that all the files in that folder are created under the same group, but now I need the files to be writtable by the same group
[15:04] <compdoc> maybe the command is different on other versions
[15:05] <troubled> StR: thats what a umask is good for. for example: cd /tmp ; umask ; touch foo ; umask 0002 ; touch bar ; umask 0022 ; ls -l foo bar
[15:05] <gvo> compdoc: It was available on 8.04
[15:06] <StR> troubled, but the user will need to remeber to run umask every time
[15:06] <troubled> StR: well, you have numerous ways to setup the environment for users. like /etc/profile or their own home bashrc files etc
[15:06] <StR> troubled, the goal is for the user not needing to run anything as the user will forget to do that
[15:07] <troubled> StR: for example, I see a umask in /etc/profile here. although yours might be in /etc/profile.d/ somewhere too (i tweak my stock setup, so i can't say for sure). so you could for example add a umask to the profile for the whole system and try that
[15:08] <gvo> troubled: StR: you can set it by user but not by directory.
[15:08] <troubled> gvo: aye, that seems to be the problem specifically here
[15:09] <troubled> i suppose logout script or something to monitor the dir could be better. personally dont like weak umasks. but not so bad if its group only +w i guess
[15:11] <troubled> StR: perhaps something using inotify would be better? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=950939  has some recipies that might allow you to fire off a command to fix permissions
[15:11] <StR> troubled, checking, thanks
[15:13] <troubled> StR: if your svn server is local on the machine, post commit hooks could also work for you if you changed your workflow to prevent manual file creating in the www dir and force users through svn (probably good idea in general imho)
[15:14] <troubled> anyways, hope all this helps. linux always has a billion ways to do stuff :)
[15:14] <splnet> StR: also checkout newgrp : for instance user can do newgrp $OTHERGRP. then all operations will be done with $OTHERGRP permissions
[15:14] <gvo> str: you want users to change the files or you are trying to prevent that?
[15:14] <WolfDev> lsb_release
[15:15] <splnet> $OTHGRP group permissions
[15:15] <ph> privmsg
[15:15] <StR> gvo, I want to allow all the users in the same group to be able to create/write/delete files in a specific folder, doesn't matter who created it
[15:16] <nullhax> hey i just got a new laptop 3 months ago and im using ubuntu it is reporting bad sectors can that be correct?
[15:16] <splnet> StR: newgrp should work
[15:16] <iceroot> nullhax: yes
[15:16] <gvo> StR: OK
[15:16] <enthdegree> when building your own kernel, how do you specify a custom uname?
[15:16] <WolfDev> does anyone know how to move the min/max/close to the right top window in version 11.10?
[15:16] <nullhax> darn gotta send it back in
[15:16] <nullhax> thx
[15:16] <iceroot> enthdegree: when you are using the deb-file just edit the changelog
[15:17] <iceroot> !controls | WolfDev
[15:17] <WolfDev> thanks ubottu
[15:17] <gvo> WolfDev: hes a bot.
[15:17] <enthdegree> iceroot: I'm doing it through some soure I downloaded
[15:17] <troubled> bots need love too!
[15:17] <Brixius> Why is it that Ubuntu makes upgrading to the current LTS release(10.4) such a big pain.
[15:17] <gvo> lol
[15:18] <fl1bbl3> WolfDev: or you could just install xubuntu :)
[15:18] <enthdegree> xubuntu is nice
[15:18] <iceroot> Brixius: should we guess what your issue is?
[15:18] <Brixius> lol
[15:18] <compdoc> seems its best to install new versions from scratch
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> Brixius  better wait a few more days if you plan to upgrade
[15:18] <gvo> Brixius: It worked fine for me.
[15:18] <iceroot> enthdegree: i guess #linux is then the correct source
[15:19] <troubled> enthdegree: oh hey, I assume you are using xfce. curious, are you using lvm at all with thunar? Im here for a problem where my LV's don't show up, but nobody seems to be speaking up yet :(
[15:19] <obscurant1st> My bluetooth headset is not working. It being shown there and I'm able to connect. But the sound is not coming through it! :/ Can somebody please help me?
[15:19] <StR> splnet, I read the newgrp man and I didn't understood how the new created files would have g+w perms with it
[15:20] <splnet> StR: are all users using the same default group?
[15:20] <enthdegree> troubled: are you booting from LVs or is this an external lv that you want to look at?
[15:20] <Brixius> this has got to bigest bug in ubuntu, which I don't get, it was possible to upgrade along the way, but someone somewhere made the decision to A) move the repos, there still online, so why make everyone update there system.  B) disable or not include a check to see what the next release is to goto for do-dist-upgrade.
[15:21] <StR> splnet, yes
[15:21] <troubled> enthdegree: nah, its boot lvm. my /usr and /var work fine, but since I upgraded to 11.10 and switched to xfce, I dont have the list of lv's in the thunar file browser like I did in gnome (which worked fine in 11.10)
[15:21] <splnet> StR: and you want group permissions g+w for the defaul group only?
[15:22] <StR> splnet, doesn't matter, but in the end yes
[15:22] <troubled> enthdegree: i can manually mount still just fine, and udisk enumeration shows everything is seen at least. but thunar doesn't show anyhting lvm related at all, and I enabled "enable logical volume management" in the prefs too
[15:23] <enthdegree> troubled: does it not show up even after after it is manually mounted
[15:23] <troubled> enthdegree: I should mention though that it seems gnome has control of my desktop itself instead of xfce, so im wondering if naut is hijacking something that is causing the problem
[15:23] <troubled> don't think so, but let me double check
[15:24] <troubled> enthdegree: no, one of my volumes is mounted now from lvm and its not in the list (short of me browsing to the /media mount point for it)
[15:24] <splnet> StR: if all users have the SAME primary group, then umask will work. If there is a user that has a DIFFERENT primary group, then they will need to use newgrp + umask. Make sense?
[15:24] <enthdegree> troubled: was it ever working through thunar?
[15:24] <enthdegree> troubled: it soundds like you installed xubuntu and then later installed some gnome suite
[15:25] <troubled> enthdegree: don't know, I originally install this as a 9.x install, and upgraded over the years. it wasn't until yesterday that I got 11.10 and switched to xfce and noticed it
[15:25] <obscurant1st> somebody please?
[15:25] <troubled> enthdegree: originally this was a stock ubuntu install, with manual apt-get of xfce4 years ago. seems xfce might be missing something or conflicting with gnome somehow, but not sure other than to try remove gnome
[15:26] <StR> splnet, but the user will need to remeber to run umask every time they are going to update the content in that folder.. and that's what I don't want as they will forget
[15:26] <enthdegree> right, but that would be a hassle and may create other problems.
[15:26] <troubled> ya, thats what im worried about
[15:26] <Brixius> Sorry, had to vent, luckly it's on vmware, so I can create a snapshot prior to doing the cdupgrade.  IMO all upgrades should be available and functional, at a minimum from previous LTS Through Current LTS version.
[15:26] <yuds> hello, how much should I spare for swap on a box with 4gig ram?
[15:27] <enthdegree> troubled: does thunar even output anything incriminating when you run it in the terminal
[15:27] <ikonia> yuds: up to you
[15:27] <splnet> StR: just  add it to /etc/profile
[15:27] <troubled> enthdegree: is there any virtual package that you know of that would turn a stock ubuntu into xubuntu? in case im missing some depends or other. and sec, ill look at console output
[15:27] <yuds> ikonia: can you help a bit more?
[15:27] <enthdegree> troubled: there may be some hook that gnome has tekon over
[15:27] <enthdegree> *taken
[15:28] <enthdegree> troubled: not that I am aware of; the best way to get xubuntu is to install xubuntu...
[15:28] <troubled> enthdegree: ya, seems so. as for running "thunar", it just returns to console and no stderr output at all
[15:28] <ikonia> yuds: sure, you allocate as much swap as you need depending on your use, if your system will use more than 4GB of ram, then allocate swap to allow it to use disk, if your system idles a lot, allocate swap to allow it to swap out processes, if you want to suspect allocate enough swap to dump your whole ram at least
[15:28] <AngrySpam> I can't open Ubuntu, all i get is a blank purple screen(dark purple)
[15:30] <troubled> enthdegree: well I suppose im due for a nice fresh install soon anyways :) thx for help though
[15:30] <enthdegree> troubled: Have you seen this? I actually had a near-identical issue several years back but I completely forget how I solved it; this may go through it https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=130748
[15:31] <troubled> looking
[15:31] <AngrySpam> so can anybody help me?
[15:31] <robertzaccour> How do I find out what kind of wireless card I have?
[15:31] <enthdegree> robertzaccour: try lspci
[15:31] <gvo> AngrySpam: New install or it's been working and broke?
[15:32] <ikonia> AngrySpam: research the "nomodeset" boot option
[15:32] <ZenMaster> Good morning gentlement on the West Coast of America with me.
[15:32] <ZenMaster> I have a question if anyone is awake?
[15:33] <ikonia> ZenMaster: just ask it
[15:33] <robertzaccour> enthdegree, Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE?
[15:33] <ZenMaster> Without having to edit each individual host file on my 30 windows machines. Do I have to setup a DNS server here on the local intranet so I can have a name represent my Ubuntu server instead of a Class C address.
[15:33] <ZenMaster> Or do I have to setup Bind.
[15:34] <ikonia> ZenMaster: bind is a dns server
[15:34] <ZenMaster> Or is it something in Samba.
[15:34] <ikonia> ZenMaster: you will need a name resolution service either on your linux machine or on your ubuntu machine
[15:34] <enthdegree> robertzaccour: Thhat doesn't look like it. try lspci | grep WLAN
[15:34] <ZenMaster> I might add that this is so they can view a corporate intranet website.
[15:34] <ikonia> ZenMaster: it doesn't have to be dns, it can be "active directory", DNS, net mios etc.
[15:34] <ikonia> netbios naming
[15:34] <compdoc> editing the hosts file on even one machine is too much work
[15:34] <ikonia> ZenMaster: any name service, I'd suggest Active directory if all your clients are windows
[15:34] <roasted> Question - I want to report a bug, but it's regarding certain functionality of Fn keys. The ubuntu-bug feature requires me to select an application. How exactly would I report this particular item?
[15:35] <ZenMaster> Well I would hate to have to setup another WindowS Machine, or expel resources on the Ubuntu server box to Virtual BOX a windows SBS or something.
[15:35] <ZenMaster> Maybe with Net Bios might be the simplest solution.
[15:35] <Gnea> !kernel
[15:35] <ZenMaster> Thank you ikonia for your time.
[15:36] <robertzaccour> enthdegree, it didn't do anything, it just went to the next line no output
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> !bug| roasted
[15:36] <ikonia> roasted: most of the laptops with function keys have their own "vendor" application for the function keys, I'd log it to that package if it's an open source package on lanuchpad
[15:36] <troubled> enthdegree: tried a few things from there, no luck still. thanks anyways though
[15:36] <ikonia> roasted: if it's a closed source or a kernel patch or something like that, I'd report it to the vendor rather than ubuntu
[15:37] <ikonia> roasted: sony/thinkpad/samsung are common to have their own software
[15:37] <hemicuda> DID I JUST FART
[15:37] <harushimo> I want to setup samba properly in ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[15:37] <harushimo> I'm looking at the doc for the conf file what does security = user?
[15:37] <roasted> ikonia: hmm... do you have any idea how I would find that package on the laptop? it's a Toshiba... haven't used Toshiba in years
[15:37] <Gnea> !samba | harushimo
[15:38] <harushimo> thanks
[15:38] <ikonia> roasted: I "think" toshiba has it's own package, as it's acpi stuff is mental, a quick google should confirm/reject that
[15:38] <Gnea> harushimo: also, #samba for more specific questions on the config
[15:38] <bs> how can i know my ubuntu version?
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> bs  lsb_release -sd
[15:38] <ikonia> bs: lsb_release -a
[15:38] <Gnea> bs: open a terminal, type:  lsb_release -a
[15:38] <roasted> ikonia: not to sound like an idiot, but what exactly should I be looking for? Toshiba.... what? Toshiba function control acpi package?
[15:38] <harushimo> that is what I thought
[15:38] <harushimo> thank you
[15:38] <ikonia> roasted: "toshiba linux function keys" something like that
[15:39] <ikonia> roasted: "toshiba $model linux function keys"
[15:39] <bradj> Is there a markdown format for linking to another bug in launchpad? e.g. [#12345]?
[15:39] <ikonia> roasted: you'll normally find a thread about someone ranting about the external package or the distro package, you can work it out from there
[15:39] <Gnea> harushimo: I also suggest installing and using swat
[15:39] <AngrySpam> I can't open Ubuntu, all i get is a blank purple screen(dark purple)
[15:40] <ikonia> AngrySpam: I told you what to do
[15:40] <ikonia> AngrySpam: did you do that ?
[15:40] <harushimo> what is swat? the gui interface for samba?
[15:40] <Gnea> how does one 'open' Ubuntu?
[15:40] <Gnea> harushimo: yeah, it's web-based
[15:40] <harushimo> when did they start this? I thought samba was more done through the terminal
[15:40] <harushimo> interesting...thank you
[15:41] <Gnea> harushimo: *years* ago
[15:41] <roasted> ikonia: sounds good. ironically I just found the bug already exists, so no need to pursue it besides adding a "yeah me too" on the report. :P
[15:41] <harushimo> really? I didn't know that
[15:41] <A_J> what is the setting for pointer settings for trackpad, some gp-pointer settings. seem to have forgotten it
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset| AngrySpam
[15:42] <pratz> hey guys i just bought ipod shuffle 4th generation, but it would not work with ubuntu 10.04
[15:42] <Gnea> harushimo: we all learn something new everyday :)
[15:42] <A_J> !gpointer
[15:42] <Gnea> pratz: did you install gtkpod?
[15:43] <pratz> I used banshee to sync music, banshee transfered music wihtout any issue but when i start ipod it say "use itunes to syn music"
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> !ipod| pratz start here
[15:43] <A_J> MonkeyDust: can you see my question
[15:43] <A_J> what is the setting for pointer settings for trackpad, some gp-pointer settings. seem to have forgotten it
[15:43] <pratz> Gnea: but transfer with banshee should work correct ? though i will try gtkpod
[15:43] <Gnea> pratz: banshee is not as ipod specific of an app that gtkpod is
[15:43] <AngrySpam> thanks for all our help guys! -.-
[15:44] <pratz> Gnea: ok, give me some time i will install gtkpod and try again
[15:45] <Gnea> pratz: take all the time you need
[15:45] <Gnea> !kernel
[15:45] <Gnea> there, forgot the url lol
[15:46] <A_J> Gnea: can you assist me for one noob question
[15:46] <A_J> what is the setting for pointer settings for trackpad, some gp-pointer settings. seem to have forgotten it
[15:46] <troulouliou_dev> Hi since recent update, my touchpad is not working after a few seconds  on twi separate laptop, and i have to ue an external mouse . I m on 11.10 , Does anybody have a quick tip to resolve this i do not have tons of time for this issue atm
[15:47] <compdoc> you might hope version 12.04 fixes it. Its to be released soon
[15:48] <Gnea> A_J: well, there are a variety of trackpads, which one are you referring to, exactly?
[15:48] <A_J> Gnea: laptop trackpads mate,
[15:49] <Gnea> A_J: yes, that's a bit too generic... I have one, I don't do anything special to make it work...
[15:49] <Gnea> it "just works"
[15:50] <A_J> Gnea: actually i'm on lubuntu now and i'm looking for this option https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-help/mouse-disabletouchpad.html
[15:50] <A_J> it's not there
[15:51] <Gnea> A_J: what version of ubuntu?
[15:51] <nastas> could anyone help? after upgrade to 11.10 i lost my keyboard and mouse. no input devices work. the same with usb input devices
[15:51] <harushimo> I installed swat. how do i start the program
[15:51] <A_J> Gnea: 11.10
[15:52] <Gnea> A_J: ah, try system->mouse
[15:52] <troubled> harushimo: instead swat web based? if so, tried visiting via web browser, or reading the docs? :)
[15:52] <hemicuda> Hello
[15:52] <harushimo> I'm reading it right now
[15:52] <A_J> Gnea: using lubuntu.
[15:52] <harushimo> thank you
[15:52] <hemicuda> i need help
[15:52] <wylde> !help | hemi
[15:52] <Gnea> A_J: yeah, I don't know lubuntu... all I can guess is that there's a system menu of some sort
[15:52] <hemicuda> How do i add Icons to my desktop
[15:53] <A_J> Gnea: yea there is. there is no option to enable that, lookin for a cli method
[15:53] <hemicuda> I need help
[15:53] <ldiamond> How do I place get CPU/Network/HDD usage in the top panel in Unity?
[15:53] <Gnea> !repeat | hemicuda
[15:54] <RyoRonin> A_J, there is a #lubuntu also maybe they can assist furhter?
[15:54] <pratz> Gnea: hey dude thanks, worked with gtkpod
[15:54] <Gnea> A_J: don't know what the cli method would be... maybe #lubuntu knows
[15:54] <Gnea> pratz: cheers
[15:54] <A_J> RyoRonin: will try ty
[15:55] <A_J> ty Gnea, may i ask what gui do you use
[15:56] <hemicuda> How do i add icons to my ubuntu desktop
[15:56] <hemicuda> OMG
[15:56] <Gnea> A_J: E17
[15:56] <wylde> ldiamond: I haven't found a way yet.
[15:56] <A_J> E17 O_O
[15:56] <Gnea> yes
[15:56] <ldiamond> wylde, did anyone tell Canonical Unity is crap?
[15:56] <A_J> !e17
[15:58] <wylde> ldiamond: I'm sure plenty have. If you try xfce4 you can add those to the panels. With a bit of work you can get xfce looking/feeling like gnome2.
[15:59] <ldiamond> wylde, I was under xfce before, I found it lacked too much functionality.
[15:59] <wylde> ldiamond: you can still use the gnome tools, like I said thoguh. "With a bit of work"
[16:00] <wylde> !nounity | ldiamond
[16:00] <dewar> hi can some one help me with mounting a sata drive with kubuntu?
[16:00] <troulouliou_dev> ubottu, and any plan for cinnamon support ?
[16:01] <troulouliou_dev> (non bots) and any plan for cinnamon support ?
[16:01] <wylde> !mint
[16:01] <ldiamond> wylde, Yea I'm currently running a lubuntu install that I modified to run gnome. Now using Gnome Classic and Metacity. However I'm going to upgrade to 12.04 (or change distro if I'm unable to get a proper desktop setup)
[16:01] <ldiamond> wylde, so I want to know what can be done before taking time on it
[16:02] <wylde> ldiamond: I've made myself use unity for a while, it's starting to not feel so clunky. (I'm on 12.04 now).
[16:03] <wylde> ldiamond: same as the rest you can use whatever DE you choose :)
[16:03] <LordXe-gnu> I actually like how Unity hides the chrome by default so there's more usable screen real estate, but maybe that's just me
[16:03] <LordXe-gnu> not that I had any problem with gnome before
[16:04] <ldiamond> LordXe-gnu, yea but I don't like how you lose all the information you used to have in the top panel.
[16:04] <wylde> LordXe-gnu: I seriously disliked the globalmenu, so I removed the packages related to it right away. That alone made a big difference for me.
[16:04] <LordXe-gnu> wylde, oh, didn't realize you could remove just that bit of it
[16:04] <wylde> LordXe-gnu: yep you can +)
[16:04] <LordXe-gnu> ldiamond, hm.  I guess I never really looked anyway ;p
[16:04] <wylde> :)
[16:04] <ldiamond> LordXe-gnu, I also find it quite annoying to have the side bar. My gnome setup is with a single panel and I have plenty screen estate with 2 monitors and 6 virtual desktops
[16:05] <LordXe-gnu> ah
[16:05] <dooma09> hi. from command prompt i was able to run "sudo ..." commands but not today. now i'm getting error: "username is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[16:06] <wylde> ldiamond: you can choose to have the panel on one or all displays.
[16:06] <LordXe-gnu> "command prompt" :/
[16:06] <LmAt> Hi, there.  I'm having trouble with my ssh client.  It doesn't display some window-drawing extended ascii characters properly.
[16:06] <ldiamond> didn't know I was on #windows :p
[16:07] <LmAt> http://www.asciitable.com/ shows some codes.  For instance, number 196 is a vertical table line.  It shows up as little a with an hat (accent ague?). :(
[16:07] <ldiamond> LmAt, consider your shell as the issue rather than the SSH client
[16:07] <LordXe-gnu> dooma09, as your user type "id", do you see a group named "admin"?
[16:07] <ldiamond> LmAt, that's Accent Grave
[16:08] <wylde> LmAt: best I can suggest is look into ncurses.
[16:08] <LordXe-gnu> I thought that hat was a circumflex
[16:08] <harushimo> i got swat working. I want to be access a directory in ubuntu while i'm on mac os x machine
[16:08] <ldiamond> LmAt, oh, hat, Accent Circonflexe
[16:08] <harushimo> how would I setup the directory in samba
[16:08] <LmAt> ldiamond: What does my shell have to do with it?
[16:08] <LmAt> ldiamond: I'm using bash...
[16:08] <ldiamond> LmAt, isn't the shell displaying it?
[16:09] <dooma09> LordXe-gnu: nope i don't see "admin". how do i add it?
[16:09] <wylde> LmAt: I think you might need an ncurses lib. Only suggestion I can come up with atm.
[16:09] <LordXe-gnu> dooma09, well... with sudo ;) but more precisely from an account that can sudo... is this a different account than the one you were using before?
[16:09] <LmAt> ldiamond: um... my ssh client is displaying the program that is displaying those characters (tmux or elinks in this case).
[16:09] <ldiamond> LmAt, in bash, run 'local'
[16:09] <ldiamond> LmAt, in bash, run 'locale'
[16:10] <LmAt> ldiamond: okay.  What should I expect?  I see LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[16:10] <LmAt> and 10 or so others.
[16:10] <dooma09> LordXe-gnu: this is same acct as before. I can temporary do "su" and type any commands and then exit
[16:10] <ldiamond> LmAt, "my ssh client is displaying", you're referring to x forwarding?
[16:10] <ZenMaster> If I added a user to www-data group would he be able to upload files to /var/www?
[16:10] <LmAt> ldiamond: I'm using putty.
[16:10] <ldiamond> LmAt, in ubuntu?
[16:11] <LmAt> ldiamond: I'm running Microsoft Windows XP.
[16:11] <ldiamond> LmAt, this is #ubuntu
[16:11] <LordXe-gnu> dooma09, oh, you have a root password. Well that's good enough. As root run "gpasswd -a USER admin" then log your user out / back in and see if it works
[16:11] <qhuyai> good night bro
[16:11] <LmAt> ldiamond: Where should I look for help with putty for Windows?
[16:11] <LmAt> ldiamond: I was hoping it would be a $TERM issue or something :(
[16:12] <LmAt> ldiamond: I guess I should see if putty for linux has the same issue...
[16:12] <ldiamond> LmAt, putty has a bunch of settings for that. Look through the setting window
[16:13] <dooma09> LordXe-gnu: ok i'll try it and logout and login again
[16:13] <troubled> LmAt: http://fixunix.com/linux/2171-charset-putty.html   might help give you some insight
[16:13] <LmAt> ldiamond: thanks.
[16:13] <LmAt> troubled: thanks.  I'll have a look.
[16:14] <ldiamond> Anyone wants to play a game of Pioneers?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> ldiamond: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic  this is support :)
[16:15] <ja__> po polsku
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> !pl
[16:15] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip, a game of pioneers will make people more joyful and get them to support more ;)
[16:16] <oCean> ldiamond: enough, it's offtopic here.
[16:19] <dekokgri> hi
[16:19] <dekokgri> hi
[16:19] <dekokgri> hi
[16:19] <FloodBot1> dekokgri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:20] <flokstry> ;hgaFfffffffffffffffffffffffaakuiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikvgsyuuuuuuiodsa
[16:21] <Brixius> Woot, on 10.4, now, think I'll stay here until 12.4. Less painful then I thought, but still more work then it needed to be.
[16:21] <hemicuda> anyone there?
[16:21] <hemicuda> how do i add icons to my desktop?
[16:22] <Guest2375> clic droit>creer un lanceur
[16:23] <hemicuda> huh?
[16:23] <wylde> !fr | Guest2375
[16:24] <hemicuda> is Ubottu a bot
[16:24] <darktor> hello!
[16:24] <hemicuda> hello!
[16:24] <A_J> yes hemicuda
[16:24] <A_J> !ubottu | hemicuda
[16:25] <hemicuda> A_J, help me
[16:25] <A_J> hemicuda: ask you question, someone will
[16:25] <conscientia> Suspend/restart problem ?
[16:25] <hemicuda> how do i add icons to my desktop
[16:26] <wylde> !details
[16:26] <genii-around> hemicuda: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67925/how-to-create-a-desktop-shortcut-in-unity
[16:26] <hemicuda> i don't hvae unity
[16:26] <genii-around> hemicuda: Which desktop environment then?
[16:27] <hemicuda> Ubuntu
[16:27] <hemicuda> im new to this
[16:27] <A_J> hemicuda: drag and drop
[16:27] <hemicuda> i don't work
[16:27] <wylde> hemicuda: see the above factoid, we can't see your desktop, what version of ubuntu, or what de you are using. You have to give us details.
[16:27] <hemicuda> im using Oneiric
[16:27] <darktor> what new?
[16:27] <darktor> someone chek ubuntu 12.04?
[16:27] <hemicuda> you want to ssh with me via netcat
[16:28] <A_J> darktor: he means new to ubuntu
[16:28] <wylde> !ot | darktor
[16:28] <Fyodorovna> hemicuda, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-desktop-launchers-in-ubuntu-11-10oneiric.html
[16:28] <Pici> darktor: #ubuntu+1 for discussion/support of 12.04
[16:28] <conscientia> Suspend/Restart problem .. I am running Ubuntu 10.04 and whenever I put my computer in suspend mode it doesn't come back to its original state. I have to power it off and reboot it completely to make it work... I followed the information here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend and the following is part of my Dmesg logs ..
[16:28] <conscientia>  0.564666] rtc_cmos 00:03: rtc core: registered rtc_cmos as rtc0
[16:28] <conscientia> [    0.564697] rtc0: alarms up to one month, y3k, 114 bytes nvram, hpet irqs
[16:28] <conscientia> [    0.564817] device-mapper: uevent: version 1.0.3
[16:28] <conscientia> [    0.564919] device-mapper: ioctl: 4.15.0-ioctl (2009-04-01) initialised<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:28] <FloodBot1> conscientia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:28] <conscientia> [    0.565007] device-mapper: multipath: version 1.1.0 loaded
[16:28] <genii-around> hemicuda: "unity" is the default graphical interface of Ubuntu.  Again I am having suspend resume issue with Ubuntu 10.04
 why i have to intsall something just to create an desktop icon
[16:33] <hemicuda> yes
[16:33] <conscientia>  Suspend/Restart problem .. I am running Ubuntu 10.04 and whenever I put my computer in suspend mode it doesn't come back to its original state. I have to power it off and reboot it completely to make it work... I followed the information here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend and the following is my Dmesg logs . http://pastebin.com/aQ1qv969
[16:33] <hemicuda> bobweaver, yes you do
[16:33] <darktor> how i can create a special theme for ubuntu?
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> hemicuda  because the line has to be drawn somewhere in the decision about the packages included in the live cd, that has to be kept small enough
[16:34] <tbrown> how many people like windows xp in this room
[16:34] <wylde> !patience | conscientia
[16:34] <bobweaver> hemicuda,  look under /usr/share/applictions
[16:34] <hemicuda> me like windows xp
[16:34] <wylde> !ot | tbrown
[16:34] <bobweaver> ther eis your desktop files right there
[16:34] <conscientia> Sorry guys... I am running low on sleep so a bit impatient :)
[16:35] <tbrown> hemicuda: I cant load windows xp on my notebook pc ubottu: windows support is not helping
[16:35] <bobweaver> hemicuda,  plz read http://askubuntu.com/questions/35488/what-custom-launchers-and-unity-quicklists-are-available
[16:35] <Pici> tbrown: we can't help you with Windows issues here. This channel is only for Ubuntu support.
[16:35] <wylde> tbrown: and what does that have to do with ubuntu support?
[16:36] <hemicuda> tbrown, its bad installation
[16:37] <hemicuda> bobweaver, do you want my shell
[16:37] <hemicuda> bobweaver, so you can help me
[16:37] <Hebram> Hello everyone.  Does 12.04 have a release candidate, or is it going straight from Beta 2 to release?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Hebram: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[16:37] <tbrown> hemicuda: you got that right:) Sorry everyone Just miss windows xp
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Hebram: it does say when you join the channel
[16:38] <tsimpson> Hebram: it releases in around a week
[16:38] <wylde> hemicuda: there's plenty of people here who have tried to help you. Read the links you have been provided with.
[16:38] <bobweaver> hemicuda,  you should not allow that
[16:38] <hemicuda> i did it this morning
[16:38] <Hebram> ActionParsnip, tsimpson:  Thank you.
[16:38] <hemicuda> i aonly allow to whom i trust
[16:39] <bobweaver> hemicuda,  I you do ssh with public keys ?
[16:39] <lyh> hello
[16:39] <lyh> am i in?
[16:39] <hemicuda> i just use netcat
[16:39] <Boreeas> lyh: Nope, you are out.
[16:39] <hemicuda> lyh, yes
[16:39] <lyh> what?
[16:40] <ariel__> does anybody here have aptana installed i downloaded java jre but it wont open
[16:40] <lyh> kiding me?
[16:40] <wylde> !ot | lyh
[16:40] <vebulous> Hello
[16:40] <lyh> where are you from
[16:41] <hemicuda> lol
[16:41] <lyh> sorry
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> ariel__: does the java page test ok in browser (if you have a desktop OS)
[16:41] <wylde> lyh: this channel is for ubuntu support. /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[16:41] <justdave> how do you change the default runlevel in precise?
[16:42] <neco198> I have this problem with gnome-shell 3.4.1 http://i39.tinypic.com/2heftaa.png
[16:42] <justdave> my box is starting in runlevel 2 after upgrading to precise, so the desktop doesn't come up and so forth
[16:42] <ariel__> its a application bot a page
[16:42] <ariel__> not
[16:43] <genii-around> !runlevels
[16:43] <yuds> hello, repartitioning my disk for 12.04 beta. I have a 20gig/ 8gig swap and then rest is /home. installer warns me that I need a reserved bios area. I created a 5mb partition before all three partitions. still getting the warning
[16:43] <justdave> ok, so that sends me back to the later part of my question then, how do I get it to fire up all the desktop stuff again?
[16:43] <coolroot> hi i got 2.3 gnome if i want to upgrade to 3.something version of gnome what will happen to my desktop!? i mean my themes and everything?
[16:44] <genii-around> justdave: #ubuntu+1 for Precise Pangolin support please
[16:44] <justdave> genii-around: ok, will do
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> yuds: never heard of a BIOS area in Ubuntu...
[16:45] <DasEi> yuds: is that a gpt table of a disk > 2TB ?
[16:45] <yuds> DasEi: no 160gig disk
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> neco198: try changing icon spacing of icons
[16:46] <DasEi> yuds: so maybe it's just set as one, well oin that you classic mbr and unless encryption no need for a seperate bootpartition
[16:46] <bhava> hi
[16:47] <bhava> hhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiii
[16:47] <DasEi> pong, bhava
[16:47] <bobweaver> hello bhava  do you have a ubuntu releated question ?
[16:47] <Merwin> hi
[16:48] <Merwin> I'm using the latest Ubuntu 12.04 and the text in the menu bar (top bar) is blurred, any clue ?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Merwin: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Merwin: it does say when you join the channel
[16:48] <Merwin> Ok, sorry :)
[16:49] <bhava> how run java program in ubuntu 12.04
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> bhava: see above
[16:50] <DasEi> yuds: you can use gparted doing a new msdostable, that also creates the relevant mbr part
[16:51] <fluxy> Hello. My printer is detected but not scanner. It is an hp all in one device
[16:51] <fluxy> could anyone please help me?
[16:51] <bhava> hi milanoa
[16:51] <DasEi> fluxy: tried sane already and hplip-stuff installed ?
[16:52] <fluxy> i have simple scan installed and hplip is installed
[16:52] <fluxy> it used to work in the live cd :/
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> fluxy: tried xsane?
[16:53] <DasEi> fluxy: try xsane and alo install libsane-hpaio
[16:53] <fluxy> ok
[16:53] <DasEi> also*
[16:53] <max978> Hello all
[16:53] <max978> I have a vexing printing problem
[16:54] <max978> would appreciate any help
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> max978: any details?
[16:54] <max978> sure just waiting for takers :)
[16:54] <DasEi> !ask
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> max978: just ask :)
[16:55] <max978> a panasonic KX-MB781
[16:55] <max978> it's a networked printer and Ubuntu sees it
[16:55] <max978> but no matter what driver choice I select, it does not print
[16:55] <max978> and I get no errors
[16:55] <Mrokii> Hello. I wonder if anybody in here can help with a problem with Flash. It seems that I can't click anything in the "Adobe Flash Player Settings"-window anymore that appears after choosing "settings..." in the context menu. Plus, Flash seems to "block" Opera and also doesn't play continuously anymore in Firefox as well.
[16:56] <Mrokii> I mean, choosing the context menu from either Opera or Firefox.
[16:57] <max978> Fyi, someone previously suggested somehow accessing the printer through a windows machine already sharing the printer but either a) I haven't done that properly or b) it just doesn't work
[16:57] <DasEi> max978: well idk that printer, quick look brought some results, in your situation I'd first try to get it work directly connected to see what drivers are needed and then do the network setup
[16:59] <Ho^Oh> Is there a way to cascade/tile my windows with a click of a button?
[16:59] <bct_> Mrokii, I'm not sure it will solve your problem but there's a firefox extension called "flash-aid" that helps installing flash correctly (idk for opera though)
[16:59] <DasEi> max978: as said , unknown to me roo : 1) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1259372
[16:59] <mischief> yo
[17:00] <DasEi> 2) http://pc-drivers.de/related/panasonic+kx+mb781+ubuntu+
[17:00] <mischief> i just started a new ec2 instance with oneric ocelot and i have all this getty processes running
[17:00] <mischief> there's no reason to have getty on a headless ec2 instance
[17:00] <Mrokii> bct_: Thanks, I will have a look. Though I doubt it's something Firefox-specific, as Opera seems to be slowed down tremendously as well.
[17:00] <mischief> how the hell do i stop them
[17:00] <pseudonymous> How come ubuntu has such pretty rendered fonts compared to other linux distributions ? (Fonts seem smoother)
[17:01] <bct_> Mrokii, well it actually reinstalls flash so maybe you'll be lucky
[17:01] <DasEi> max978: second, will look some further
[17:01] <max978> ok
[17:01] <Mrokii> bct_: Okay. I'll definitely have a look. Thanks.
[17:01] <max978> I'm kinda losing hope on this one honestly
[17:01] <fluxy> DasEi: I have installed xsane, xscanimage etc. my device still not detected
[17:01] <bct_> Mrokii, you're welcome ;)
[17:02] <`Korvin> After a few minutes of flash audio in chrome, my audio goes bonkers
[17:03] <troubled> mischief: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/whats-the-recommend-way-to-enable-disable-services/20347#20347
[17:03] <raoul_> ciao a tutti
[17:04] <troubled> mischief: i assume you are referring to `service tty1` through ttyN as per /etc/init/tty*.conf
[17:04] <genii-around> !it | raoul_
[17:04] <troubled> mischief: err, I mean `status tty1` not `service tty1` :)
[17:04] <mischief> troubled: yes. im used to having a /etc/inittab or /etc/ttys :-/
[17:04] <troubled> mischief: i know your pain ;)
[17:04] <sidux> http://onibushacker.forum-livre.com/
[17:05] <troubled> inittab was my typical first visit on install too
[17:05] <mischief> i'd run bsd if my work didn't require i started an ubuntu instance -_-
[17:05] <`Korvin> Any idea why flash 64x sound would glitch out after 3 or 4 minutes of use
[17:05] <avinashhm> Hi friends , i am trying to configure static ip with dhclient .. i am not a n/w expert, but hope this can be done .. enabled static section in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf .. but seems not working .. on rebooting get diff address .. the config file is in - http://paste.ubuntu.com/938566/ .. could some one pls help
[17:05] <`Korvin> sounds digitized
[17:05] <`Korvin> only way to fix it is to restart the browser
[17:05] <`Korvin> whichever browser I'm using
[17:06] <mischief> "To disable the job, you need to edit the job file directly to disable it. There are two ways to do this."
[17:06] <mischief> this is *WORSE*
[17:07] <trism> mischief: you do not have to edit the job, use override files
[17:07] <mischief> trism: got a doc or manpage?
[17:07] <DasEi> max978: no, I can't find it on the hcl, but as you saw others had a solution for it, will then on your own risk have to try to compile the driver
[17:07] <trism> mischief: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[17:08] <DasEi> !compile | max978
[17:08] <max978> wow
[17:08] <max978> never complied anything
[17:08] <max978> compiled
[17:08] <max978> sorry
[17:08] <mischief> compiling > ubuntu, just saying
[17:08] <jrib> how insightful
[17:09] <DasEi> max978: no big deal, unknown stuff I always use a vm or sparesystem for, sometimes that borks up, very sometimes
[17:10] <DasEi> max978: sit back, read the links, and feel free to ask on if unsure
[17:10] <max978> ok, thanks for the help
[17:10] <asktrytest> hi. after learning that is not worth to get an older distro to have 3d on a legacy card i wonder... why the comunity does not relese a new distro with up-to-date security and noob firendly that is build around legacy video drivers? it puzzles me why such a distro is not out there already. is like linux is pushing people to upgrade hardware like the gaming industry does
[17:11] <DasEi> asktrytest: try lubuntu ?
[17:11] <Mrokii> bct_: Seems as if that extension *did* install another version of the flashplayer, but it didn't help. Still the same problems with Opera and FX. Thanks anyway.
[17:11] <DasEi> !lubuntu | asktrytest
[17:12] <asktrytest> Deasi, as far as i know lubuntu is based on ubuntu 10.04 up or something. 3d on legacy was untill 8.04
[17:12] <DasEi> asktrytest: there is a bunch of other possibilities, too
[17:12] <DasEi> asktrytest: nope, same core n updates/releases
[17:13] <asktrytest> Daesi i know that legacy ati wont work if you have xorg 7.5 or higher
[17:13] <asktrytest> last ubuntu that supported lower xorg was 8.04
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> !tab| asktrytest
[17:14] <mischief> ok i added those lines to the .override files
[17:14] <mischief> now how the hell do i actually stop a upstart service
[17:14] <mischief> the manpage says nothing about this, as usual
[17:14] <asktrytest> ubottu,  ah, thanks, i got it
[17:14] <bct_> Mrokii, sorry it didn't help :(
[17:14] <mischief> !upstart stop
[17:14] <DasEi> asktrytest: won't work is a strong work, the commerical drivers from ati won't install, but radeon is still a good choice for non-high-playgrounds, as you mentiooned above, that works fine
[17:14] <mischief> !stop service
[17:15] <Mrokii> bct_: Was worth a try, as I have no clue whatsoever what caused it. Other than maybe a bug in the Flashplayer. Which, given its history, is very likely.
[17:15] <troubled> mischief: you were 11.04 right?
[17:15] <DasEi> mischief: sudo servie WHATEVER start/stop ?
[17:15] <asktrytest> DasEi,  i'm using open-source right now nut wont give me 3d, fps in games 1/2 as win, even lower
[17:15] <DasEi> service*
[17:16] <mischief> troubled: oneric ocelot
[17:16] <DasEi> asktrytest: which card is it ?
[17:16] <mischief> thanks
[17:16] <mischief> this worked: for j in 2 3 4 5 6; do echo "stopping tty${j}"; service "tty${j}" stop ; done
[17:16] <asktrytest> DasEi,  ati r x1550 512mb
[17:16] <asktrytest> legacy
[17:16] <troubled> mischief: if so, I just tested the override file, works fine for tty services. `echo manual >> /etc/init/$servicename.override` as root stops from auto starting fine here
[17:16] <rmxz> Where's the best place to lobby against "indicator-appmenu" being the default.    In addition to being totally broken in "focus-follows mouse",  I notice that on my kinda old graphics card Unity fails to start when I have "indicator-appmenu" installed (making me fall back to Unity 2D on that computer) -- but after "apt-get remove indicator-appmenu" it works fine.    Is there a good place to put in a request that the appmenu **not** be
[17:18] <DeLorean731> In Windows when I right click -> properties on an image, i can get a lot of meta data such as which camera it was taken with etc. What is a tool (command line is fine) that I can use to do this on 11.10?
[17:18] <asktrytest> DasEi,  my point is, i'm puzzeled why the community does not relese a new distro that offers same 3d capability as ubuntu 8.04 did
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> DeLorean731  in terminal: file
[17:18] <`Korvin> DeLorean731, that data is called exif data
[17:18] <DasEi> asktrytest: be puzzled about ati, there is the worm ; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[17:19] <DasEi> asktrytest: nvidia opened / adapted there code to it, not so ati
[17:19] <asktrytest> DasEi,  i read now, i missed that page, brb
[17:19] <AndroUser> Hi
[17:19] <DasEi> asktrytest: that i not a gamers card, but radeon increased a lot recently :)
[17:20] <DasEi> is*
[17:20] <rmxz> asktrytest  "community does not relese a new distro that offers same 3d capability as ubuntu 8.04"   -- totally agreed here; with an older nvidia card (MX 440)  that worked fine with a deault Ubuntu install win 8.04 - 10.someting;   but the default install with the current release crashes with meaningless error messages (something like ubuntu session can't start).
[17:20] <asktrytest> DasEi,  well, i saw the page and is true. after installing new driver my pc went on fallback with vesa..
[17:20] <DasEi> asktrytest: I let you read now, but I'd go for a cheap 8600/8800 NV and be fine if keen on graphics
[17:21] <Xtreme> guys can someone tell me a nice DVD burning tool
[17:21] <Xtreme> i got a iso i want to burn
[17:21] <DasEi> !burn
[17:22] <Xtreme> thanks
[17:22] <asktrytest> DasEi,  well, no point in buying a video for my agp slot, better upgrade all on pciexress
[17:22] <eid> hello
[17:22] <eid> i used wine for winrar on ubuntu
[17:22] <rmxz> "go for a cheap 8600/8800 NV" - One of the reasons I like linux on the older machines is that they're cheap ($0).      Sad that Ubuntu's installer now requires  modern hardware instead of having the installer detect video chard shortcomings and falling back to the capabilities that ubuntu 8.x had.
[17:23] <DasEi> asktrytest: your choice, but me easiest, if you aren't too hard on budget, even fully supported that wouldn't be of extended graphical use
[17:23] <eid> but i don't know where to extract 4 big files so that win rar won't give me the error "the disk is full '
[17:24] <asktrytest> DasEi,  hm.. all thing smells like a strategy to sell better pcs, like games: big sys reqs= need to buy new system. waht new linux relese, buy a new pc
[17:24] <eid> can somebody help ?
[17:24] <DasEi> rmxz: same mind here, but depends on what you want than
[17:25] <DasEi> eid: put them else where on disk und unpack under linux ?
[17:25] <DasEi> !rar
[17:25] <rmxz> Dasei: "depends on what you want"    --- to sum up what I want -- I want the Ubuntu installer to be more tolerant of ancient hardware, and not blindly install a UI (Unity 3D with indicator-appmenu) on systems where indicator-appmenu crashes.
[17:25] <datruth> How can I fix Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be  caused by held packages?
[17:26] <asktrytest> DasEi,  and rmxz  somehow linux stoped been free when it stopped working on older cards, no matter ati/nvidia.. i'm having a point here or?
[17:26] <eid> DasEi where?
[17:26] <DasEi> asktrytest: depends on needs then, newer distros have many advantages, and rather time and machines go together, can be nasty, but doesn't work is also a wrong statement
[17:26] <eid> my linux won't see the extracted files
[17:26] <eid> i don't know where to extract them
[17:27] <eid> i see mycomputer on Wine
[17:27] <DasEi> asktrytest: nope, see above, that'S ATI
[17:27] <rmxz> asktrytest:  -- IMHO not Linux (it's still very free in both freedom and dollars) -- but it seems Ubunty stopped being $0 when it's asking me to upgrade my otherwise perfectly fine hardware.
[17:27] <eid> c drive and z drive
[17:27] <asktrytest> rmxz,  good point there
[17:27] <Xabster> What's the channel for Wine discussion?
[17:27] <DasEi> !WINE
[17:27] <Xabster> thanks
[17:28] <toter> does anyone know an easy way to convert a web page to an app or a widget? there's a hp-12c emulator on a web page that I would like to convert to an app. For example, the WebKit engine inside a windows displaying a specific section of a website...
[17:28] <toter> windows=window
[17:29] <asktrytest> DasEi,  well, i'm not actually blaming ati. if someone wanted to make a new distro that sues legacy ati i'm sure was possbile to do (i saw on forums that 1 distro can work with legacy ati but takes hours to set up, is not noob firendly at all)
[17:29] <cypher-neo> Hi. I asked this question in #ubuntu+1 but no one is answering anything in there. I was wondering if there was a Preview mode on the 64-bit edition of Precise. I remember that for time on 10.10 and 11.04 32-bit users could Try Out the software before installing, but that option wasn't available on the 64-bit edition. Does anyone know if 64-bit Precise has a Preview mode?
[17:30] <eid> !info unrar-free
[17:30] <toter> I can do that on my Mac using a program called Fluid (fluidapp.com)… Is there something similar for ubuntu?
[17:30] <DasEi> asktrytest: last on this poll, if new technologys say for cars become available, should they stop because a stereo manufactorer won't open their circuits for it ?
[17:31] <DasEi> like no upstart for ati ?
[17:31] <sidux> !help
[17:31] <Barnabas> !ubottu is a sexy animal
[17:32] <asktrytest> DasEi,  nicely put there :P still, a hole lot of ppls are stuck with legacy ati
[17:32] <pangolin> !ot | Barnabas
[17:33] <DasEi> asktrytest: nvm, try to get the radeon to work and see what that will improve then, there are many (lucky) ati-users around, see what you get from the tut, ask try again, there will be others using ati
[17:34] <asktrytest> DasEi,  thanks for help :)
[17:34] <DasEi> np :)
[17:36] <karel_ff> Hi. I have set chromium as my preferred browser, but xdg-open only opens new windows - it doesn't load the  url. Any ideas?
[17:37] <LmAt> How do I start the unity windowing system on ubuntu?
[17:38] <LmAt> It got turned off.  Is it "sudo service start lightdm"?
[17:38] <DasEi> LmAt: sudo service gdm start
[17:38] <Dr_Willis_Testin> Unity is one of the desktops you can select from the lightdm/gdm menus
[17:38] <Dr_Willis_Testin> its called 'ubuntu' i belive in the gear-menu
[17:39] <LmAt> DasEi: sudo service lightdm start
[17:39] <LmAt> worked
[17:39] <DasEi> fine then
[17:39] <l1nkg0> hello all
[17:40] <LmAt> DasEi: thanks :D
[17:40] <LmAt> l1nkg0: yo
[17:41] <l1nkg0> adakah orang Indonesia disini ?
[17:41] <LmAt> l1nkg0: no.
[17:42] <DasEi> !indonesia
[17:42] <benq_JCEVIL2010> HI
[17:42] <palladin35y> hey
[17:42] <LmAt> benq_JCEVIL2010: yo
[17:43] <aantoon> hi, will 12.04 alternate support ssd+trim+luks aut of the box or do I have to do some tweaking?
[17:43] <palladin35y> hey guys
[17:43] <oCean> aantoon, try #ubuntu+1 channel please
[17:43] <aantoon> k, thanks
[17:43] <benq_JCEVIL2010> Drgreen good name
[17:44] <oCean> benq_JCEVIL2010: do you have a support question? Chit chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:44] <benq_JCEVIL2010> ok
[17:44] <benq_JCEVIL2010> oCean how install wine
[17:45] <oCean> !software | benq_JCEVIL2010
[17:45] <palladin35y> hey guy how do i load lampp
[17:45] <oCean> !lamp | palladin35y
[17:46] <benq_JCEVIL2010> yes
[17:47] <appi_uppi> Hi can someone help me with this... http://pastebin.com/akxMt8jr?
[17:47] <palladin35y> in terminal thank you ubottu
[17:48] <rmxz> Any recommended Ivy Bridge motherboard for 12.04?   I see a nice comparison table of Z77 motherboards here: http://uk.hardware.info/comparisontable/products/148551-148556-149540-149539-149544-146963-149542-146965-147838-149624-149482-148838-149551-149550-143490-148822-149894-148446-143489-149612  -- and am wondering if there are any specific components to stay away from for a new Ubuntu computer.
[17:48] <LmAt> Apparently the reason why my Windows Putty client wouldn't display elinks and tmux correctly is because I was using the wrong encoding :(
[17:48] <LmAt> But I still type quickly ^_^
[17:48] <benq_JCEVIL2010> hey
[17:48] <benq_JCEVIL2010> i want steel storm free
[17:48] <benq_JCEVIL2010> help me
[17:49] <jrib> benq_JCEVIL2010: we don't support piracy here.
[17:50] <rmxz> Perhaps he hoped Ubuntu could convince the manufacturer to release it under a F/OSS license?  :)
[17:51] <wylde> I have a "server" machine that serves as an LTSP server, LAMP server(internal network only) and a VM host for a stripped out windows guest that is used for printing to my linux unsupported printer. I'm looking for thoughts on mounting the "print"  directory, are there risks if I use the nbd server already install for the LTSP server?
[17:54] <Escherial> the update manager is always telling me to update certain things that never seem to go through; some of them aren't even selectable
[17:54] <ScoutUk> Hi. Recently moved to Linux. I don't know how to download magnet links from torrent sites that don't give you the option to download the torrent file. Could anyone point me in the right direction please.