[00:00] <Slart> WDC: Linux has something of a threshold before you get comfortable with it..
[00:00] <woli> em... does anybody know the url to the tango/gnome/gorilla/etc icon showroom?
[00:00] <WDC> Scunizi: I guess. I got so accustomed to Windows that no matter what I needed to do, I could just do it
[00:00] <woli> its like a grey page with orange links
[00:00] <Flannel> WDC: configuration on windows would take just as long as it does here.  It doesn't take an hour.  It just takes you not freaking out about having to learn how to configure something.
[00:00] <opt1k> fwaokda: for more options to compile type "g++ --help"
[00:00] <josh-> heya soundray when you boot into recovery mode does it ask for your password?
[00:00] <hubar> WDC: what are you trying to do?
[00:00] <fwaokda> opt1k, thanks
[00:00] <Flannel> WDC: keeping a cool head and not assuming "its way too big of a job" is an important part of learning anything new.
[00:00] <josh-> or anyone know rather?
[00:01] <WDC> Flannel: Nono, on Windows I had a GUI that i put my server address in, ports, enable, accounts, and there we go
[00:01] <WDC> hubar: Mail server. POP3/SMTP
[00:01] <soundray> EruditeHermit: your problem is now well out of my scope of experience. Have another look at testdisk docs -- maybe they've another hint.
[00:01] <opt1k> WDC: what are you setting up ? firewall ?
[00:01] <WDC> opt1k: Mail server. POP3/SMTP
[00:01] <soundray> josh-: no, it doesn't -- unless you've gone against the grain and set one.
[00:02] <WDC> Flannel: http://pastebin.ca/1202157
[00:02] <josh-> ok
[00:02] <kapat> WDC: I set up my own mail server on linux.    A lot of mail servers will drop you if your reverse dns lookup doesn't match the from domain.
[00:03] <SchmittyDoesIt> Scunizi: thanx that was fustrating
[00:03] <WDC> kapat: That could be bad
[00:03] <WDC> Flannel: Did you get it?
[00:04] <opt1k> WDC: so what's the part that's giving you trouble?
[00:04] <kapat> WDC: And unless you have a hosted environment, a lot of spam blacklists automatically block all dsl and cable IP addresses
[00:04] <luisf_g3> hello
[00:04] <mgolisch> yeah unless you have a static ip and can setup the reversedns yourself you are kinda doomed
[00:04] <WDC> opt1k: Well configuring it. \
[00:04] <kapat> WDC: And you have to appeal them to get yourself removed
[00:04] <WDC> kapat: Damn
[00:04] <Scunizi> SchmittyDoesIt: good.. not always the best option to use.. command line is faster when you understand permissions and how to set them.. I'm still working on that.. when you're done with the root version of nautilus close it.. it's much too easy to destroy things that you shouldn't
[00:04] <kapat> WDC: I enjoyed learning about it, but it is a serious PITA to maintain
[00:05] <WDC> kapat: Hmm. Is there any alternative to Blackberry Server yet?
[00:05] <Flannel> WDC: alright, so, line 24, we want to remove the imap stuff, since we're not doing imap stuff (best to copy the line, comment the old one, edit the new one).  That's not really required, but isn't a bad thing.  The biggest thing we need to do is line 217.  We need to set a mail_location
[00:05] <opt1k> WDC: lol... well configuring what exactly? what have/haven't you configured ?
[00:05] <Flannel> WDC: Are you going to be using mbox or maildir?
[00:05] <WDC> Flannel: For SMTP? Not there yet. That will be another couple hours. :(
[00:05] <kapat> WDC: For a blackberry?
[00:05] <Flannel> WDC: no, not for SMTP.  This has nothing to do with SMTP
[00:05] <WDC> kapat: No for a Treo. What else would a blackberry server do
[00:05] <silk_> hello i just installed ubuntu and i i had Acronis os selecter running, now it just loads ubuntu, how can i put up a dual loader?
[00:06] <WDC> Flannel: Well what do you reccomend
[00:06] <Flannel> WDC: they're ... folder/file structures for storing the mail you get.
[00:06] <Flannel> WDC: I recommend maildir.
[00:06] <WDC> Flannel: Maildir it is
[00:06] <hubar> WDC: why don't you use courier?
[00:06] <kapat> WDC: My wife has a treo, and we bought a Zimbra hosted account.  You can then use exchange activesync to sync mail/contacts/calendar
[00:06] <pmaddog320> hi all newish to ubuntu just reading a massive book about it lol
[00:06] <Gnea> !dualboot | silk_
[00:06] <silk_> thanks gnea
[00:06] <Gnea> cheers
[00:06] <Flannel> WDC: alright, so, line 211 has a sample line.  Copy the contents of that, to line 217 (without the comment, of course)
[00:06] <WDC> kapat: I was asking if there was a free alternative to Blackberry Server
[00:06] <kapat> WDC: Otherwise, you can get an IMAP account just about anywhere
[00:06] <Gnea> pmaddog320: which one?
[00:06] <silk_> another question, i installing dappy, is there anyway to install the new ubuntu on this one?
[00:07] <kapat> WDC: Zimbra does push e-mail like blackberry
[00:07] <hubar> WDC: It has a web admin package in repository anyway. easier for you to set up :)
[00:07] <Flannel> silk_: You can upgrade to Hardy, yes
[00:07] <Flannel> !upgrade | silk_
[00:07] <opt1k> ok i'm exhausted... good night to everyone
[00:07] <silk_> thanks alot
[00:07] <opt1k> &good luck with solving your problems =)
[00:07] <opt1k> cya
[00:07] <IDontSpeakEnglis> is there a way to improve video playback with the nvidia driver that comes with ubuntu 8.04? all the time I play a video its lags a little and my video card is 8500gt
[00:07] <kapat> WDC: But there is no "open source blackberry server" that tries to emulate an actual blackberry server
[00:07] <WDC> Flannel: 211 is uncommented and IMAP is gone
[00:07] <EruditeHermit> soundray: is there a way to tell it to force yes except the first one which I want to say no to for fsck
[00:07] <WDC> kapat: Ah thanks. SOmeone should do that
[00:07] <pmaddog320> beginning ubuntu linux by keir thomas and jaime sicam
[00:07] <lecapitan> hi
[00:07] <Flannel> WDC: no, not uncomment 211, take 211 and copy it to 217, uncommented.
[00:07] <lecapitan> cant some one help me with avant window manager
[00:08] <soundray> EruditeHermit: don't know, sorry
[00:08] <lecapitan> i cant get the dock to show
[00:08] <kapat> WDC: If you are using a treo, you should seriously look at zimbra.  It works very similarly to a blackberry server
[00:08] <WDC> Flannel: Done
[00:08] <Flannel> WDC: and, also, you're done.  Save and restart dovecot.  And, again, I must impress upon you that all we did was follow that wiki page I gave you.  So try actually following the documents you're given, instead of being annoying.
[00:08] <WDC> kapat: That was sarcasm\
[00:08] <kapat> WDC: lol... ok
[00:08] <WDC> Flannel: I apologize
[00:08] <kapat> WDC: good luck then. ;-)
[00:08] <WDC> kapat: lol.
[00:09] <WDC> Flannel: Unknown argument restart
[00:09] <foo> I'm currently on ubuntu server 6.10. it's all I had. I can't seem to upgrade to the next release... is it even possible?
[00:09] <WDC> Flannel: Nevermind. Needed to be su
[00:09] <Gnea> foo: might not be....
[00:09] <Flannel> foo: It is.  You have to jump through a few hoops because edgy is EOL though. But the upgrade notes talk about it.
[00:09] <Gnea> !upgrade | foo
[00:10] <WDC> Flannel: Invalid configuration
[00:10] <WDC> sigh
[00:10] <Gnea> foo: er, what Flannel said
[00:10] <pmaddog320> gnea did u get my last
[00:10] <Flannel> WDC: pastebin the output of this: sudo /etc/init.d/dovecot restart
[00:10] <Gnea> pmaddog320: no
[00:10] <WDC> Flannel: Don't worry about helping anymore. From what I have read this isn't a good idea. Thanks so much for the help, and again i'm sorry
[00:10] <foo> Flannel: any idea what hoops? Update my sources file? My linux router is borked which is my internet, and I can't grab the latest release. eh, this is a super pain. I'm currently in CLI with no X. Can you shoot me some pointers via IRC by any chance? I had to ssh into another box to even got on irc
[00:10] <pmaddog320> lol scroll up its to long to type
[00:11] <Gnea> pmaddog320: oh ok - isbn? :)
[00:11] <timma> hello, what will happen if I remove pulseaudio?  Is it okay?
[00:11] <EruditeHermit> soundray: do you think there is any hope if I sit here for hours and hit yes for everything or should I give up?
[00:11] <mgolisch> timma: mostlikely, you just need to set all your apps to use alsa
[00:11] <Flannel> foo: yeah, pretty much.  The feisty upgrade notes mention it.
[00:11] <foo> Flannel: apt-get update with default sources throws some 404 errors... I'm guessing I need to replace my sources.list
[00:12] <pmaddog320> isbn ?
[00:12] <mgolisch> timma: but i would just not start it, there isnt realy a reason to remove it, disk space is cheap nowadays
[00:12] <foo> Flannel: What do I need to do?
[00:12] <icedtea> what is a good cd/dvd burning program?
[00:12] <foo> icedtea: k3b
[00:12] <soundray> EruditeHermit: I honestly can't tell you
[00:12] <Flannel> foo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades  top of the page
[00:12] <mgolisch> i somehow like bashburn :)
[00:13] <Scunizi> icedtea: k3b
[00:13] <foo> Flannel: let me see if I could get that up in links
[00:13] <soundray> EruditeHermit: perhaps place a paperweight on the Enter key and leave it like that for a while
[00:13] <icedtea> ok,I'll try it
[00:13] <timma> mgolisch  I am having trouble with playing videos and audio files in totem and a few others, like mplayer
[00:13] <WDC> icedtea: k3b
[00:13] <hubar> icedtea: if you wanna use gnome only program, I use brasero. :)
[00:13] <mgolisch> timma: what problems?
[00:13] <soundray> !burn | icedtea
[00:14] <fiXXXerMet> If I already have windows and ubuntu dualbooting, but I need to format and reinstall just the windows partition, do I need to worry about anything, like the MBR?
[00:14] <WDC> fiXXXerMet: Yes
[00:14] <timma> mgolisch  when I kill pusleaudio it fixes the problem with audio files not playing and video files even playing extremely slow with no audio or not at all.
[00:14] <hubar> how did you install ubuntu?
[00:14] <jrib> fiXXXerMet: yeah, you'll need to reinstall grub
[00:14] <WDC> fiXXXerMet: Look around on Google on how to fix GRUB after installing Win
[00:14] <hubar> with wubi?
[00:14] <jrib> !grub > fiXXXerMet
[00:14] <timma> in totem
[00:14] <fiXXXerMet> Thanks for the help!
[00:15] <pmaddog320> can someone tell me the fastest way to get my dvds working in totem can i use sudo to get codecs for it and how do i do it
[00:15] <Phantomas> hello is there any way to prevent an ssh user from executing a .c program?
[00:15] <mgolisch> timma: hm strange, maybe you set totem to use alsa or something, i never had problems like that
[00:15] <mgolisch> pulseaudio works flawless here
[00:15] <erUSUL> !dvd | pmaddog320
[00:15] <icedtea> Phantomas: you mean compiling a c program?
[00:15] <Flannel> foo: Go to your sources.list, change all your repos to http://old-releases.ubuntu.com instead of what they are now,  Then follow the upgrade notes (update-manager-core)
[00:16] <icedtea> where do I get ubuntu themes?
[00:16] <mgolisch> timma: but you can just disable pulseaudio in your session startup apps and set your players to use alsa instead
[00:16] <soundray> !theme > icedtea
[00:16] <pmaddog320> sod it ill read the book lol
[00:17] <Phantomas> icedtea: i dont know what i mean :p basically a friend of mine showed me that it is easy to make a pc crash from ssh
[00:17] <Phantomas> he created a c program
[00:17] <Phantomas> that makes fork cells and crashes the pc
[00:17] <Flannel> Phantomas: you don't need a C program for a forkbomb
[00:18] <Phantomas> Flannel: so i guess there is no way to prevent this action?
[00:18] <rebel_kid> im assuming the next ubuntu release is just about ready, anywhere i can get a beta?
[00:18] <soundray> rebel_kid: there is not beta yet
[00:18] <soundray> !intrepid | rebel_kid
[00:18] <Flannel> rebel_kid: It's still alpha software.  See #ubuntu+1
[00:18] <soundray> *no
[00:18] <Gnea> pmaddog320: looks like a decent book
[00:19] <pmaddog320> its cool
[00:19] <mgolisch> Phantomas: there is, setup proper limits for the users
[00:19] <icedtea> soundray:aren't there ubuntu themes that you can just apt-get?
[00:19] <timma> mgolisch  I will disable it.  One related bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/213705
[00:19] <Gnea> icedtea: there are themes for the specific GUI you're using
[00:19] <soundray> icedtea: don't know
[00:19] <jacklake> Cant make sound card works - ubuntu 64bit on a HP tx 2075br
[00:19] <erUSUL> icedtea: install gnome-art
[00:19] <mgolisch> timma: no idea, i never used totem
[00:19] <Gnea> !sound | jacklake
[00:20] <msoini> quick question
[00:20] <msoini> i just installed the sensors-applet, but can't find it in the "add to panel" menu
[00:21] <Phantomas> mgolisch: how?
[00:21] <icedtea> erUSUL: thanks
[00:21] <timma> mgolisch  it effected primarily totem but also a couple other players, but ... thank you for your help
[00:21] <mgolisch> Phantomas: have a look at ulimit
[00:22] <soundray> msoini: try to run /usr/lib/gnome-panel/sensors-applet
[00:22] <erUSUL> Phantomas: it is easy to protect a Linux system from forkbombs
[00:24] <Phantomas> erUSUL: can you please tell me how?
[00:25] <msoini> soundray: didn't do much :-(
[00:25] <erUSUL> Phantomas: edit /etc/security/limits.conf and add a line like "*               hard    nproc           2000" that will limit the process a user can have to 2000 (safe and high enough limit) so a forkbomb can not make more than 2000 forks
[00:25] <soundray> msoini: did you call it from a terminal?
[00:25] <msoini> yes
[00:25] <erUSUL> Phantomas: close file; done ;P
[00:25] <soundray> msoini: any errors in the terminal?
[00:25] <msoini> nope
[00:25] <jacklake> No sound working
[00:26] <soundray> msoini: please look at the output of 'tail .xsession-errors' -- do you see anything that may be related to sensors-applet?
[00:26] <erUSUL> Phantomas: instead of 2000 you can choose a lower limit or higher depnding on your needs
[00:27] <msoini> no
[00:27] <jacklake> Install ubuntu64bits at HP tx2075 - soundcard doesn't works
[00:27] <Phantomas> erUSUL: ok can i do that from ulimit?
[00:27] <msoini> got a few of this: (npviewer.bin:6324): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_destroy: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[00:27] <kc8pxy> where do i learn how to isntall rails-2.1.0 into hardy server? (hardy's rails ver is 2.0.2, and is not recent enough for my app)
[00:27] <IndyGunFreak> jacklake: what sound device does that pc have?
[00:28] <jacklake> How do I discover it?
[00:28] <soundray> msoini: note, I didn't say "paste the error messages". That's not allowed here
[00:28] <msoini> oh, sorry
[00:28] <genii> jacklake: lspci | grep Audio
[00:28] <jacklake> Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[00:28] <soundray> msoini: did you install sensors-applet through a package manager?
[00:28] <msoini> yes
[00:28] <erUSUL> Phantomas: yes but that only affects the current shell ... see the man page for bash
[00:29] <jacklake> IndyGunFreak-Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[00:30] <IndyGunFreak> i saw it... i've saw problems w/ that device before, but trying to remember if it was resolved
[00:30] <foo> Flannel: ok, I got on fiesty, 7.04. What should I do next? is it feisty -> hardy?
[00:30] <Flannel> foo: feisty -> gutsy -> hardy
[00:31] <foo> Flannel: hm, ok
[00:31] <foo> Flannel: how do I go from heisty to gutsy?
[00:31] <Flannel> foo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes has links to the pages for the specific upgrades
[00:31] <pekuja> I'm having some trouble with Nvidia proprietary drivers on Kubuntu 8.04 with Geforce 8800GT... basically, when I reboot/restart X, I just get a blank screen, and I can't even switch to TTY with Ctrl+Alt+Fx
[00:31] <soundray> msoini: just installing it here to see if I can reproduce the problem
[00:31] <Hotkey> i have created a new folder but i cant paste into it - do i need permission - root?
[00:32] <Hotkey> ho do i get root privilege in file manager?
[00:32] <IndyGunFreak> jacklake: http://jblevins.org/computing/linux/mcp51-alsa
[00:32] <pekuja> this on a fresh install and I installed the driver through the hardware drivers manager
[00:32] <pekuja> actually, now that I think of it, I should first upgrade all my packages (like I said, fresh install)
[00:33] <NickieFerrante> Hi guys; am trying to sync an ipod touch with 8.04, I've looked at a few of the guides on the ubuntu wiki and a few other sites, but at the point where they say: 'follow this link to find out how to jailbreak the ipod', then all of these links are broken. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Or even suggest a way to sync the ipod without jail-breaking it?
[00:33] <jacklake> IndyGunFreak I'm sorry if I look too...errr...DUMB - but I don't understand
[00:33] <IndyGunFreak> jacklake: follwo the linjk
[00:34] <jacklake> IndyGunFreak I'm trying too :)
[00:35] <msoini> soundray: oh for craps sake, now it saw fit to appear in the menu :-P
[00:35] <EruditeHermit> soundray: it recovered most of it =)
[00:35] <EruditeHermit> soundray: I don't know what is missing but the most recent stuff I was working on is there
[00:35] <soundray> msoini: it must have been querying some data source and then timed out
[00:36] <soundray> EruditeHermit: wow, that's great news
[00:36] <jacklake> .
[00:36] <vampirefrog> ,
[00:36] <msoini> soundray: thanks anyway, appreciate thehelp :-)
[00:36] <soundray> EruditeHermit: look in /lost+found to see what it hasn't been able to put back in place
[00:36] <moyix> hey -- I just installed Ubuntu on my macbook. wireless worked at first with the compat-wireless-ath9k-generic package, but after running update manager, trying to load ath9k gives lots of errors like "ath9k: disagrees about version of symbol ieee80211_wake_queues"
[00:36] <dante124> hi all can someone give me the bot command to get info on tvout (svideo) from pc to tv?
[00:37] <EruditeHermit> soundray: it says the folder contents could not be displated
[00:37] <EruditeHermit> displayed*
[00:37] <EruditeHermit> soundray: permission problem
[00:37] <jrib> dante124: /msg ubottu !tvout
[00:37] <soundray> EruditeHermit: try with sudo. First 'sudo /mountpoint/lost+found' to see how much it is
[00:38] <darren_> hi could some one please tell me i have duel boot on my system how do i reinstall ubuntu again with out harming the other os for example if i goto manual mode and select the partition where ubuntu is allready installed and click format, and then dont touch the swap does it compleatly remove the old ubuntu or just overright it
[00:38] <dante124> /msg ubottu !tvout
[00:38] <jrib> dante124: no space in the beginning
[00:38] <soundray> EruditeHermit: sorry
[00:39] <soundray> EruditeHermit: 'sudo du /mountpoint/lost+found' to see how much it is
[00:39] <dante124> !tvout
[00:39] <msoini> darren_: that should completely remove the older ersin
[00:39] <msoini> *version
[00:39]  * soundray = useless when tired
[00:39] <Hotkey> help - i created a folder home/snippit but cannot add files to it?
[00:39] <jrib> dante124: message the bot please
[00:39] <soundray> Hotkey: how did you create it?
[00:39] <darren_> msoini, ok thanks just wanted to make sure befor a made any changes
[00:40] <Phantomas1> erUSUL: with only 200 proccesses at the limits file the fork worked
[00:40] <jroberto> alguem do brasil?
[00:40] <EruditeHermit> soundray: yeah, I can see them now, but there is 138.3mb worth of stuff, mostly random icons and files from my FS. I think I will need to reinstall but I can copy my home directory back without much loss
[00:40] <Hotkey> soundray text editor and saved it to desktop
[00:40] <erUSUL> !br | jroberto
[00:40] <soundray> !br | jroberto
[00:40] <Esquilo> what is the command to configure the net by terminal?
[00:40] <jroberto> ok
[00:40] <Esquilo> jroberto, ouve a galera
[00:40] <jroberto> obigado
[00:41] <erUSUL> Phantomas1: what do you mean wroked? the forkbomb crashed the machine?
[00:41] <fwaokda> whats the cmd to clear my terminal screen?
[00:41] <eumario> clear
[00:41] <fwaokda> thanks
[00:41] <mgolisch> fwaokda: clear or reset
[00:41] <jroberto> sou novo aki
[00:41] <soundray> fwaokda: Ctrl-L is even quicker
[00:41] <jroberto> estou usando pela primeira vez
[00:41] <erUSUL> Esquilo: you edit /etc/network/interfaces or use ifconfig + route or ip
[00:41] <EruditeHermit> soundray: would you recommend NOT booting into it and just copying files to an external HD and reinstalling and copying over? or is it safe to reboot back?
[00:41] <Phantomas1> erUSUL: yes
[00:42] <Esquilo> eracc, OH! tks! I was thinking it is iPconfig XD
[00:42] <darren_> ok one last question i downloaded and installed hardy 8.04 last week from the ubuntu website does that give me the best kernel or are there newer better ones
[00:42] <jrib> Hotkey: what exactly are you trying to do?  Why have you created /home/snippit instead of just having /home/your_user/snippit?
[00:42] <Phantomas1> but i put the user that ran the program in the file limits (my friend)
[00:42] <erUSUL> Phantomas1: what machine is it? i have 2000 limit and a shell forkbomb does not chrash anything. AMDx2 3800+ 3GB RAM
[00:42] <soundray> EruditeHermit: play it safe and do the backup first. Then you can't lose anything by trying to boot it
[00:42] <Flannel> darren_: It gives you a fairly recent kernel, but once you install you upgrade to the newest one.
[00:42] <jrib> darren_: if you have run update-manager, then you are up to date
[00:43] <Phantomas1> erUSUL: i have an 6000+ and 2Gigs of ram
[00:43] <leon> hi :)
[00:43] <EruditeHermit> soundray: thanks for the help, I appreciate it
[00:43] <EruditeHermit> soundray: I am off to get an external HD
[00:43] <darren_> Flannel, so if i do update mananger does that sort it out for me
[00:43] <darren_> jrib, ok thanks
[00:43] <Hotkey> jrib maybe i shold have - im folling an instruction (trying to) that reads sudo gedit ~/.snippits/do
[00:43] <Flannel> darren_: Yep, update manager takes care of it
[00:43] <soundray> EruditeHermit: I'm glad it turned out the way it did. I thought your filesystem was lost.
[00:43] <leon> i am trying xchat for first time :) seems work perfect
[00:43] <erUSUL> Phantomas1: tried could kill the forkbomb with a Crtl + C only a little sluguish
[00:43] <jrib> Hotkey: ugh, why would you need sudo?
[00:44] <Aaron_Mason> hey all, i'm using rhythmbox to put music onto my MP3 player, and it keeps putting files into separate folders... anybody know how I can stop this from happening?
[00:44] <darren_> ok thanks for the help every one
[00:44] <Hotkey> jrib dunn - follwing an install instruction from web site
[00:44] <jrib> Hotkey: link us
[00:44] <keevie> Can anyone here help with rubyripper? I installed it and all of its repos, but when i open the gui and change prefs, and then click rip now!, the program just closes
[00:44] <Hotkey> jrib does ~ mean user?
[00:45] <jrib> Hotkey: it means /home/your_username usually.  It's your HOME
[00:45] <Hotkey> jrib ok thats the problem then - i'll try it there.
[00:45] <Phantomas1> erUSUL: i didnt understood
[00:46] <jrib> Hotkey: the '.' in '.snippets' is important too.  Make sure you do  View -> Show hidden files  as files that start with a '.' are hidden
[00:46] <jrib> Hotkey: and you don't need sudo for any of this
[00:46] <erUSUL> Phantomas1: i tried a shell forkbomb right now with a limit of 2000 processes and my machine didn't crash and i hardly noted anything
[00:46] <Phantomas1> erUSUL: :S
[00:46] <Phantomas1> why it stack for me
[00:46] <mgolisch> yeah same here there doesnt happen much
[00:47] <erUSUL> Phantomas1: did you reponed the shell you are launchng the forkbomb?
[00:47] <Hotkey> jrib i have hiddend showing and the .snippets folder is listed under MyHome icon in file manager - is the my user dir.?
[00:47] <Phantomas1> erUSUL: sorry but what do you mean reponed
[00:47] <erUSUL> Phantomas1: it just reaches 2000 proc and stops forking
[00:47] <jrib> Hotkey: that's your HOME, yes.  That's the right place
[00:47] <mgolisch> for the limits to take effect
[00:47] <mgolisch> id try to see what ulimit says when loged in as that user, if it shows those set limits at all
[00:47] <erUSUL> Phantomas1: reopened* sorry late at night here :)
[00:48] <Hotkey> jrib rats i cant paste a text file from my desktop
[00:48] <keevie> Can anyone here help with rubyripper? I installed it and all of its prereqs, but when i open the gui and change prefs, and then click rip now!, the program just closes
[00:48] <extor> If I am copying a partition via dd does the bs= matter if I know the inode size is 4096 instead of 512? Does the bs= have to be exactly the same size as the inodes on the filesystem?
[00:48] <cy21> hello world... if i install ubuntu 8.04 will it recognize my hard drive sata drivers automatically?
[00:48] <jrib> Hotkey: why? what happens?
[00:48] <mgolisch> keevie: start on a terminal to see possible error output
[00:48] <Aaron_Mason> extor: it helps if they are the same, makes copying quicker
[00:48] <Hotkey> paste is greyed out
[00:48] <sloopy> cy21, it did on mine
[00:48] <Hotkey> jrib paste is greyed out
[00:48] <jrib> Hotkey: paste the result of 'ls -ld ~/.snippits'
[00:49] <jrib> cy21: it should (wfm)
[00:49] <cy21> sloopy, why do i need sata.. i deactivated it from bios.. is it faster?
[00:49] <extor> quicker..but there will be no errors, right?
[00:49] <Hotkey> jrib drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-09-13 18:11 /home/user/.snippits/
[00:49] <sloopy> if you have sata disks they are much faster
[00:49] <cy21> jrib, same question as sloopy ^
[00:49] <sloopy> if you dont have sata disks then it is irrelevent
[00:49] <keevie> mgolisch: how do i start in terminal? just running rubyripper gives command not found
[00:50] <mgolisch> keevie: lookup the command in the starter
[00:50] <jacklake> IndyGunFreak - I kinda download an arj arquive and I don't know what to do :(
[00:50] <jacklake> (I don't know anything of linux)
[00:50] <cy21> sloopy, how much faster? x2 ?
[00:50] <jacklake> :(
[00:50] <Phantomas1> erUSUL: my friend does it
[00:50] <erUSUL> Phantomas1: do "ulimit -a" shows the limit of number of process set?
[00:50] <sloopy> cy21, does your hd hook up with a 2.5" wide cable or a .5 inch cable?
[00:51] <Phantomas1> erUSUL: no
[00:51] <Phantomas1> :S
[00:51] <jrib> Hotkey: sudo chown $USER: ~/.snippits
[00:51] <cy21> sloopy, it's sata.. i'm on a notebook... but i disabled it from bios .. now.. if i enable it.. how much faster will it be ?
[00:51] <mgolisch> jacklake: cant you open it in the default archiver?
[00:51] <sloopy> cy21, if you disabled sata in the bios and your older install still works then you dont have a sata drive
[00:51] <erUSUL> Phantomas1: maybe you have to log out and log in again for the limits.conf file to be read
[00:51] <arooni-pocketpc> does the geforce 9400gt work with linuz?
[00:51] <cy21> sloopy, my older install does not work
[00:52] <uffo> can someone knows what is wrong, i have cnet pro200 network card but no internet, 8.04 network manager shows it is ok
[00:52] <mgolisch> cy21: be carefull, if you set the adapter to ide legacy mode and installed windows that way, windows wont boot anymore when switching it back to sata/ahci mode
[00:52] <Hotkey> jrib magic - it works now - hat do i need to learn?
[00:52] <sloopy> cy21, its not a question of speed its a question of if it will work at all
[00:52] <Hotkey> what
[00:52] <keevie> mgolisch: it doesnt give any errors, it just launches
[00:52] <jacklake> mgolisch what? I don't understand
[00:52] <cy21> sloopy, but if it is a question of speed.. how fast are we talking? x2 faster?
[00:52] <soundray> !permissions > Hotkey
[00:52] <soundray> !cli > Hotkey
[00:53] <mgolisch> keevie: so when you click that button it just closes without any error message?
[00:53] <sloopy> there are many factors in speed but fastest pata is 'theoretically' 133m/sec slowest sata is 'theoretically' 150M/sec
[00:53] <keevie> mgolisch: oh, nevermind, pastebinning output now
[00:53] <Hotkey> jrib thank you
[00:53] <cy21> mgolisch, i know.. id did that and it did not work....
[00:53] <cy21> sloopy, so 20 mb faster
[00:53] <jrib> Hotkey: no problem
[00:54] <cy21> 15% or something ?
[00:54] <sloopy> cy21, if the drive is sata then you need the sata drivers
[00:54] <Hotkey> lots to learn
[00:54] <uffo> can someone knows what is wrong, i have cnet pro200 network card but no internet, 8.04 network manager shows it is ok - it should be automatically on
[00:54] <uffo> 5 years old card
[00:54] <mgolisch> uffo: is it detect at all?
[00:54] <keevie> mgolisch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/46743/
[00:55] <foo> Anyone have an alternate mirror to ubuntu hardy? It's downloading pretty slow
[00:55] <mgolisch> uffo: like does lspci show it?
[00:55] <uffo> mgolish: how to test it
[00:55] <cy21> sloopy, so... sata vs non-sata is 20mb faster?
[00:55] <sloopy> cy21, it is dependant on the drive... some patas are faster then some satas
[00:55] <soundray> foo: System-Administration-Software Sources. Pick a mirror from the list.
[00:55] <IndyGunFreak> foo: use the torrents, they are usuaklly pretty fast.
[00:55] <foo> IndyGunFreak: not an option atm.
[00:55] <IndyGunFreak> foo: ok.
[00:56] <mgolisch> keevie: it seems to be a problem with the file home/daniel/.rubyripper/freedb.yaml
[00:56] <foo> IndyGunFreak: thanks, though.
[00:56] <foo> soundray: oh, I'm on ubuntu server, downloading from there website
[00:56] <mgolisch> keevie: does that file exist? and who is the owner, maybe you started that program using sudo before and thats what messed up that files permissions
[00:56] <foo> soundray: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[00:56] <sloopy> cy21 try it with sata on and with sata off and see if there is a speed difference
[00:56] <pinnen> How do I configure the graphic settings when I have installed the nvidia restricted drivers with ubuntu? (I have my TFT-monitor connected to HDMI, but it stoped working.)
[00:56] <uffo> mgolish: how to test it
[00:56] <pinnen> have to be some nvidia-configuration tool?
[00:56] <cy21> sloopy, i found that sata is starting from 1,5 gb/sec
[00:57] <uffo> mgolisch: how to test it
[00:57]  * sloopy starts chasing tail... probly be more productive
[00:57] <mgolisch> pinnen: maybe try nvidia-settings
[00:57] <soundray> pinnen: gksudo nvidia-xconfig
[00:57] <mgolisch> uffo: ls -lh home/daniel/.rubyripper/freedb.yaml
[00:57] <pinnen> ok, thanks guys
[00:57] <mgolisch> ups +/
[00:57] <keevie> mgolisch: no such file or directory
[00:58] <mgolisch> yeah there was the starting / missing
[00:58] <pinnen> no nvidia-settings, but I'll try that gksudo
[00:58] <mgolisch> /home/...
[00:58] <jacklake> mgolisch I have download something arj...  what should I do?
[00:58] <arooni-pocketpc> does the geforce 9400gt work with linuz?
[00:58] <keevie> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 907 2008-09-12 19:12 /home/daniel/.rubyripper/freedb.yaml
[00:58] <soundray> pinnen: nvidia-settings comes in its own packages, you should install it and look at that, too
[00:58] <sysdoc> AWN doesn't seem to want to show my active windows, anyone got a clue?
[00:58] <uffo> mgolisch: no such file or directory, is there easyer way
[00:59] <soundray> pinnen: nvidia-xconfig should be on your system already.
[00:59] <Phantomas> erUSUL: ulimit -a shows 16320
[00:59] <c0llisi0n> I need some help: My left mouse button no longer works as a left mouse button.
[00:59] <nickz327> hi
[00:59] <c0llisi0n> Actually, my left mouse button does nothing while the others work just fine.
[00:59] <nickz327> i have an issue with my emerald theme manager
[00:59] <erUSUL> Phantomas: ulimit -u ?
[01:00] <Phantomas> yes
[01:00] <nickz327> it will only load themes with the command emerald --replace
[01:00] <soundray> c0llisi0n: sounds like a hardware problem. Have you tried another mouse?
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[01:00] <nickz327> is there something i can do to make it load it without running that command
[01:00] <mgolisch> uffo: sorry, ifconfig, if you type that does it show an interface eth0
[01:00] <c0llisi0n> soundray, yes. It works fine on other PCs. I have had this issue in the past. I would unplug the bluetooth dongle, plug it back in, and it would work. NOW... It seems stuck.
[01:01] <jacklake> Does anyone here have time to spend trying to make me understand what to do? I'm having a LOT of trouble with mi comp AND I'm very, VERY new at all this linux stuff so I may demand some patience... and I also cant follow you guys here, so, if anyone can talk to me privatly, I'm very thankfull :(
[01:01] <uffo> mgolish: ifconfig shows eth0
[01:01] <Phantomas> erUSUL: at the limits.conf file i put
[01:01] <Phantomas> *		-hard	nproc 50
[01:01] <Phantomas> this line
[01:01] <keevie> mgolisch:  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 907 2008-09-12 19:12 /home/daniel/.rubyripper/freedb.yaml
[01:01] <mgolisch> keevie: do sudo chown daniel:daniel /home/daniel/.rubyripper/freedb.yaml
[01:01] <c0llisi0n> jacklake, just got ahead and ask your question(s).
[01:01] <nickz327> anyone
[01:01] <nickz327> way to run emerald themes without emerald --replace
[01:01] <mgolisch> uffo: do you use dhcp?
[01:01] <nickz327> it used to work properly
[01:02] <Phantomas> erUSUL: any ideas?
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> nickz327: make a script and put it in your startup
[01:02] <jacklake> c0llisi0n - Already did it... but nothin seens to work AND I keep losing tracks of who I'm talking too :S
[01:02] <soundray> jacklake: to be honest, I personally don't feel like helping you because you've sais you wouldn't read documentation that has been pointed out to you.
[01:02] <keevie> mgolisch: problem fixed, thanks a lot!
[01:02] <uffo> mgolish: i use default roaming mode
[01:02] <jrib> nickz327: #compiz-fusion may be more familiar with the issue
[01:02] <soundray> *said
[01:02] <uffo> and i ha
[01:02] <nickz327> ok doke
[01:02] <c0llisi0n> jacklake, looks like you need to track the mesasges better. ;)
[01:02] <uffo> mgolish: i have 1 card only
[01:02] <erUSUL> Phantomas: have you logged out and in?
[01:02] <robelliott2125> Whats the terminal command for changing my ref/res within Hardy?
[01:02] <jacklake> soundray I did, but there something at the doc that doesn't makes any sense to me :( - sorry
[01:02] <c0llisi0n> jacklake, have you searched Google already? I can always find tons of things, usually on the Ubuntu forums.
[01:03] <jrib> robelliott2125: ref/res? what?
[01:03] <mgolisch> uffo: i just wanted to know if you get an ip from your router or need to setup the networking properties by hand
[01:03] <jacklake> look guys,,, I cant understand those docs you guys send me :(
[01:03] <Phantomas> erUSUL: i have reset :p because the system crashed before
[01:03] <c0llisi0n> Is there a way to reconfigure the mouse or reset the settings for it?
[01:03] <robelliott2125> Refresh / Resolution rates jrib
[01:03] <jrib> !fixres > robelliott2125
[01:03] <soundray> jacklake: when that happens, the right thing is to come back here and ask specifically about what you didn't understand.
[01:03] <c0llisi0n> It is a bluetooth mouse and I sense that this may be an issue (have had MANY issues in the past with bluetooth and Ubuntu).
[01:04] <uffo> mgolish: router, i even set gateway manually from network manager but still nothing
[01:04] <robelliott2125> Thanks jrib
[01:04] <soundray> c0llisi0n: sounds implausible to me...
[01:04] <c0llisi0n> soundray, what does?
[01:04] <erUSUL> Phantomas: should have worked...  it is wrokig for me since i modified that file
[01:04] <jacklake> I dont understand nothing about linux AT all... I use windows all my life and also don't know the commands and this terminal stuff and all of that :(
[01:04] <mgolisch> uffo: if you have dhcp try this: sudo dhclient eth0     and see if you have an ip and the correct gateway set and can access the internets then
[01:04] <onisan> привет всем
[01:04] <soundray> c0llisi0n: your left mouse button not working = bluetooth issue (sounds implausible)
[01:04] <onisan> hi +)
[01:04] <jrib> !ru | onisan
[01:04] <c0llisi0n> jacklake, search for Linux Zoo on Google. Some great tutorials on there to kinda get used to it.
[01:04] <Phantomas> erUSUL: ok anw thanks
[01:05] <soundray> c0llisi0n: but I don't have much bt experience and not much to offer, sorry
[01:05] <jacklake> SO to use LINUX I have to do quite a research AND study, right? thereś no ease thing to do???
[01:05] <c0llisi0n> jacklake, plus... Use it for some time. Dig around. Take the trial and error approach. I've been using Ubuntu for almost three years now and, I'm no where near an expert (yet) but I have learned tons just from trial and error and Google/Ubuntu Forums research.
[01:06] <c0llisi0n> soundray, DAMN YOU...! Nah, I'm kidding. Thanks anyway.
[01:06] <c0llisi0n> This is quite annoying though... Haven't had to use the tab key in ages it seems. :)
[01:06] <jacklake> It's very hard fomr me...
[01:06] <mohadib> any esata hot pluggers here?
[01:06] <soundray> jacklake: not really. But to solve problems on a computer, like the sound not working, you have to be willing to understand a few new concepts.
[01:06] <sloopy> c0llisi0n, i have been using linux since '94 and when i finally get it... they change it on me ;')
[01:06] <soundray> jacklake: that's the same in Linux and all other operating systems
[01:06] <asmo[B]> jacklake: ubuntu has become very much a non-terminal operating system, you can do 90% of what you need without using the terminal
[01:06] <c0llisi0n> jacklake... WELL...  You won't get anywhere with technology if you can't learn to teach yourself at times.
[01:06] <jacklake> I'm, but not alone. I can't learn just by reading :(
[01:07] <bazhang> !rute
[01:07] <uffo> mgolish: looks like it done something and shows no dhcpoffers received and no working leases in persisdent database
[01:07] <sloopy> jacklake, well then learn by reading and then doing...
[01:07] <mgolisch> uffo: that mostlikely means there is no dhcp server or the cable is not properly configured
[01:08] <mgolisch> uffo: i mean the cable isnt luged in right or something
[01:08] <soundray> jacklake: start with the links in the sound factoid (coming up). If you find something in there that you don't understand, come back here and ask
[01:08] <soundray> !sound > jacklake
[01:08] <sloopy> jacklake, at most you will have to reinstall ubuntu, and doing the a few times teaches you things also
[01:08] <thirdy> what's the most stable virtual machine for Ubuntu Hardy?
[01:08] <uffo> mgolish: but my wrt54gl gives dhcp
[01:08] <c0llisi0n> *LOL* This is helping me to learn some handy keyboard shortcuts though. :)
[01:08] <asmo[B]> thirdy: depends on what you're trying to run
[01:09] <c0llisi0n> I send the reinstalling a few times... I have learned what packages you just shouldn't mess with from having to do a few reinstalls.
[01:09] <mgolisch> uffo: try dmesg and see of theres something about the interface eth0
[01:09] <bhiAbypAige> hi i am installing ubuntu 8.04 for the first time on a laptop. I was bugged with this swap partition creation process. I found out that it is possible to just create a swap FILE instead.. How do I do that? Any link?
[01:09] <c0llisi0n> jacklake, I have noticed that Konversation really helps with tracking the conversations. It makes any messages directed toward you turn red where everything else remains black.
[01:10] <c0llisi0n> jacklake, sudo apt-get install konversation. Try it out, may help.
[01:10] <abngal> i changed my nick
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> abngal: if you just blast through the install process it will make you one
[01:10] <uffo> mgolish: huge list of messages popped up Tx timeout - resetting
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> abngal: a swap partition
[01:10] <thirdy> asmo[B], stable usb, stable shared folder with Ubuntu, I have xVM but it crashes when accessing the shared folder.
[01:10] <jrib> !swap > abngal
[01:10] <abngal> I don't want to create to create a partition
[01:10] <sloopy> c0llisi0n, xchat does that too
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> c0llisi0n: xchat and xchat-gnome do the same thing... pidgin just sucks as an irc client
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> IndyGunFreak: in your opinion
[01:11] <thirdy> yeah imo too
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> ActionParsnip: lol, youc an't really believe Pidgin is a good irc client?
[01:11] <c0llisi0n> WELL... Haven't used any of those. Hell, I don't even know why I picked Konversation for IRC. It works for me though. :)
[01:11] <mgolisch> uffo: there is something wrong with the link then, maybe try another cable/port on the router
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> IndyGunFreak: i think its fine
[01:11] <sloopy> i will third my opinion on that also
[01:11] <asmo[B]> thirdy: just for running windows XP?
[01:11] <mgolisch> uffo: and what driver does it use? maybe thats some bug in the driver
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> IndyGunFreak: it joins channels and i can type and recieve text
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> ActionParsnip: i find it completely unusable for IRC.. tis a great IM client, horrid IRC client in my opinion.;
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> IndyGunFreak: thats what irc is
[01:11] <c0llisi0n> WELL... I will be away for a bit. Hopefully if someone else reads this they can PM me with some assistance?
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> i'm aware of what RIC is..
[01:11] <thirdy> asmo[B], actually yeah, gonna play some games too
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> IndyGunFreak: what more do you want from irc?
[01:12] <sloopy> c0llisi0n, what issue are you having?
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> something more useable than Pidgin.
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> IndyGunFreak: in what way?
[01:12] <asmo[B]> thirdy: if you're going to play games I'd suggest Wine or Cedega
[01:12] <kevin_> i just installed ubuntu...anyone know any good customizations i can make that arn't in the "preferences" ?
[01:12] <c0llisi0n> The left button my bluetooth mouse has stopped working. No changes were made. I need to know how to either reset the settings, reconfigure it, or what other options I have. Thanks.
[01:12] <uffo> mgolish: how i can see that card is working in simple way or there is better driver for it - cnet pro200 (windows shows that)
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> c0llisi0n: try resyncing
[01:12] <sloopy> kevin_, yes, install full vim, it roolz ;')
[01:12] <abngal> The laptop already has winxp and I don't wan't the users to be scared of a new partition or be baffled that I used soem of their disk space for a ubuntu swap partition
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> abngal: theyll never see it
[01:13] <c0llisi0n> ActionParnship, when this happened before I would do that and it work work but now... It doesn't. Restarted, still didn't solve this issue.
[01:13] <mgolisch> uffo: look what lspci shows for the lan card
[01:13] <sloopy> c0llisi0n, hardware issue maybe?
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> abngal: unless they poke around in disk manager
[01:13] <abngal> Yes they will
[01:13] <c0llisi0n> sloopy, don't think so. It works fine on other PCs.
[01:13] <abngal> I just want to create a swap file instead
[01:13] <thirdy> asmo[B], what's the competitor for xVM, I got vmware-player then went to easyvmx.com, and no luck
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> abngal: how will they see it?
[01:13] <kevin_> sloopy,  isn't vim a text editor?
[01:13] <abngal> see it through partition managers
[01:13] <jrib> abngal: so read the link ubottu gave you
[01:14] <uffo> mgolish: Davicom semiconductor
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> abngal: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-5-manual/Deployment_Guide-en-US/s2-swap-creating-file.html
[01:14] <sloopy> kevin_, vim is a text processor...
[01:14] <c0llisi0n> Anyone know what the command line is to access the mouse preferences?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> abngal: why are yur users uusing partition viewers? thats an admin task
[01:14] <jeremy_> hello there
[01:14] <kevin_> sloopy, whats wrong with gedit?
[01:14] <mgolisch> uffo: whats the full name? and what drivers are loaded for that?
[01:14] <holyguyver_> How do I save a list of every package I have installed & then on another system tell my computer to reinstall all of those packages?
[01:14] <jrib> !cloning > holyguyver_
[01:14] <soundray> !clone | holyguyver_
[01:15] <sloopy> kevin, no regexp, no macros, no style...
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> IndyGunFreak: why do you find pidgin such a poor irc client?
[01:15] <asmo[B]> thirdy: have you tried KVM?
[01:15] <droopsta915> just installed ubuntu, why wont start in normal session, i have to login in failsafe mode for it to work???
[01:15] <thirdy> asmo[B], that's your recommendation, ok I'll give it a try
[01:15] <abngal> they don't want to be left out with tech kno-how :).
[01:15] <mgolisch> ActionParsnip: its not irssi!
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> droopsta915: try repairing your xorg.conf
[01:15] <kevin_> i suppose if i had use for those things it would be an advantage.
[01:15] <mgolisch> irssi > *
[01:15] <mgolisch> :)
[01:15] <tina> I'm trying to print return address labels in Ubuntu.  Anyone know what the options mean in the Brand and Type drop downs in OO when making a File -> New -> Label document  in Writer?
[01:15] <asmo[B]> !kvm > thirdy
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> mgolisch: it connects to irc servers, therefore it is an irrc client
[01:16] <holyguyver_> jrib, either that or just tell me how I can forcfe my computer no matter what to go too the 1000 whatever by 700 whatever resolution
[01:16] <tina> I have my sheet and can measure the labels, but not sure how this translates into these choices
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> mgolisch: ive had this convo with various people and its very tiresome
[01:16] <soundray> ActionParsnip: if failsafe mode works, xorg.conf can't be the problem ( droopsta915)
[01:16] <uffo> mgolish: Davicom semiconductor , inc. 21x4x DEC-tulip compatible 10/100 ethernet
[01:16] <abngal> ActionParsnip: Can I do that while on the ubuntu installation setup? Can I instead not make the swap partition?
[01:16] <droopsta915> is it in apps?
[01:16] <jrib> holyguyver_: have you been through !fixres?
[01:16] <thirdy> asmo[B], nice, didn't know that, so apt-get will do perfectly fine?
[01:16] <holyguyver_> jrib, Yes I have
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> abngal: not sure, i always make a swap partition
[01:17] <abngal> Wow, people here type so fast, I'm getting dizzy
[01:17] <droopsta915> im in ubuntu now, but in failsafe
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> soundray: i thought failsafe didnt read xorg.conf
[01:17] <sloopy> tina, it has presets for certain labels from specific manufacturers, and instead of doing all the dirty work by hand you can tell it company that made them and with version (or model) they ase
[01:17] <niadh> I need help with monodevelop sourceforge and the MD svn plugin, can someone help me?
[01:17] <sloopy> s/ase/are
[01:17] <Krimpet> hello all, I've been experiencing bizarre reboots on my Inspiron E1405 laptop on hardy... out of nowhere, while doing fairly ordinary stuff like IRCing, the screen'll just go blank and I'm back at the BIOS -_-
[01:17] <mgolisch> uffo: what driver does it use? maybe try dmesg|grep eth0    there might be some message from the driver
[01:17] <asmo[B]> thirdy: I've not actually used it myself, but I had given it a good read over before I suggested it for use, I just use wine as the only windows based apps I care to use are low end games
[01:17] <holyguyver_> & this goes to soundray too
[01:17] <abngal> ActionParsnip: I'll just research more :)
[01:17] <abngal> Thanks
[01:17] <soundray> ActionParsnip: I think you're thinking about recovery mode...
[01:18] <jrib> holyguyver_: then no, I don't know how to do anything more than what is on that page
[01:18] <mgolisch> niadh: id ask in #mono@gimpnet
[01:18] <Krimpet> I can't find anything in /var/log; http://paste.ubuntu.com/46745/ is the contents of kern.log
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> soundray: i think i amm too
[01:18] <thirdy> asmo[B], thanx very much
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> bah
[01:18] <niadh> mgolisch: Not many people on there really
[01:18] <asmo[B]> thirdy: no problem
[01:18] <droopsta915> u think ubuntu installed wrong?
[01:18] <Krimpet> does anyone have any pointers as to where the problem might lie?
[01:18] <holyguyver_> jrib, though I havent tried everything on that page as that page is too dificult for me to fallow.
[01:18] <tina> sloopy, unfortunately, not a brand name label...
[01:19] <mgolisch> niadh: what exactly is the problem? i use MD quite often but i allways use the svn cmdline client to do the svn related stuff
[01:19] <soundray> droopsta915: please put your $HOME/.xsession-errors on a pastebin
[01:19] <soundray> !pastebin | droopsta915
[01:19] <Krimpet> anyone? :)
[01:20] <darren_> Hi small question for every one i have heard mixed reviews for network manager and also wicd for ubuntu, but they all seem to be from last year,has any one hear used the both, and also what one do you think is best
[01:20] <sloopy> tina, yeah, i am not familiar with the specific types , i just have passing familiarity with them cause my mrs used to be and administrative assistant and had to deal with them
[01:20] <jrib> holyguyver_: then go through it and ask here about anything that you you don't understand specifically
[01:20] <niadh> mgolisch: hell a command line ability to make commits would be a great step forward. Problem is I keep getting a 403 forbidden error, most likely from lack of username and password, but I'm not prompted for it, nor can I seem to make it work by running svn ci --username <my_username> --password <my_password>
[01:20] <holyguyver_> jrib, then what is the url again, ubottu didn't say this time.
[01:20] <jrib> !fixres > holyguyver_
[01:21] <sloopy> tina, easiest thing would be to see if they have same specs as standard type and use that...
[01:21] <asmo[B]> darren_:  I've only used network manager but, it seems to do everything that I need it to... it's hard to answer a question like your's when we don't know what you're trying to do with it...
[01:22] <uffo> mgolish: i do not find that i type character, maybe you can give som newer driver that is easy to install in .deb package
[01:22] <holyguyver_> jrib, Alright during the xorg configure thing my system always freezes on the keyboard part so then I have to close the terminal.
[01:22] <droopsta915> sudo: /home/victor/.xsession-errors: command not found
[01:22] <asmo[B]> darren_: I would also imagine that not much has changed in either of them over the past year, so you're probably pretty safe with the reviews you were reading
[01:23] <darren_> asmo[B],  just connect to internet thinking off giving it a try but dont want to install if there is any problems its just in network manager it does not show my signel strenght in colourd bars
[01:23] <droopsta915> soundray: where is that file
[01:23] <holyguyver_> jrib, so I cannot do that one
[01:24] <jrib> holyguyver_: your system doesn't freeze if you can close the terminal.  What exactly happens?
[01:24] <holyguyver_> jrib, the xorgconfigure thing freezes
[01:24] <mgolisch> uffo: i guess its just a card/chipset that isnt well supported, make sure the tulip driver is not loaded and that it uses dmfe as the driver, if that doesnt work get some other card
[01:24] <asmo[B]> darren_: ah can't help you there, I don't use wireless
[01:24] <holyguyver_> it stops responding
[01:25] <zazu> Do you know a file manager for nokia?
[01:25] <holyguyver_> jrib, it stops responding before I can even get to the monitor section.
[01:25] <soundray> droopsta915: I've given you the full location. Just do 'cat $HOME/.xsession-errors'
[01:27] <jrib> holyguyver_: have you tried hitting tab, space, and enter?  None of those keys have any effect?
[01:27] <Atchicalapoto> o
[01:28] <Krimpet> I'll try again :) would anyone be able to help me with my intermittent, mysterious reboots? I'm just running a fairly normal installation of hardy on my laptop; it just hard reboots out of nowhere after hours to days of uptime, while running only fairly mundane apps like GNOME, xchat, and emacs, and I'm puzzled as to where to start diagnosing the problem; http://paste.ubuntu.com/46745/ is my kern.log
[01:28] <uffo> mgolish: thanks for tryng to help but commandline is too messy to me and i wait maye next ubuntu release has automatic problem detector or that tulip thing selector in gui. Shuttleworth makes every ubuntu release easier ad easier
[01:29] <darren_> Ok strange thing happening with ubuntu hardy 8.04 I have a built in wireless and a usb wireless the built in shows signel strength in colours, but the usb does not, I have tried the wireless in my girlfriends laptop with the same version of ubuntu and the same drivers both freash installs, and it works perfect, also tried with two other usb wireless and the same problem, also done a fresh install of ubuntu, but same problem, if some one could help its drivi
[01:29] <darren_> ng me nuts, no one seems to have the same problem in the furoms.
[01:29] <droopsta915> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu.com/46746/
[01:29] <Mersault> I remember many moons ago using a command to make a quick and dirty .deb file from the contents a make install command. Can anyone remind me what it might have been?
[01:29] <jrib> !checkinstall > Mersault
[01:29] <TrustNoOne> my firefox freezes when i go to this certain porn site
[01:29] <holyguyver_> jrib, yes that did fix it, but then all it did was ask me about my keyboard & mouse, not even mentioning my monitor, I found that odd & thought that perhaps I did not pay enough attention, so I went through it a second time & nope, not a single question about my monitor.
[01:29] <Mersault> perfect! thanks lazyweb!
[01:30] <jrib> holyguyver_: ok, and?
[01:30] <holyguyver_> jrib, & so I could not do anythingt for my monitor with that since it never asked a single question about my monitor.
[01:30] <jrib> holyguyver_: ok, so continue.  The next step is restarting X
[01:31] <droopsta915> everyone look at this and tell me why i cant log i as a normal user, i can login into failsafemode. http://paste.ubuntu.com/46746/
[01:31] <holyguyver_> jrib, I have restarted x about 50 times today, that obviously has done nothing.
[01:32] <jrib> holyguyver_: this is the first time you have completed the dpkg-reconfigure xsever-xorg command.  The order in which you do things matters
[01:32] <utnubu_user> hello, how can I map a network drive on ubuntu? I tried looking at my network places, but I dont know how to locate it...
[01:32] <basti> droopsta915, ** (nautilus:5715): WARNING **: Unable to add monitor: Not supported
[01:32] <Dat1> Hello, how can I connect to my wireless AP without using the network manager?
[01:32] <utnubu_user> my drive is a myworldbook, in case someone  knows how to set it up on ubuntu...
[01:33] <TrustNoOne> Dat1, iwlist wan0 scan
[01:33] <Dat1> thanks
[01:33] <Phantomas> erUSUL: i tried to log out and log in but forkbomb worked again :(
[01:33] <soundray> droopsta915: please employ some basic manners when you're asking for help. Here's a suggestion for solving your problem: run 'sudo jockey-gtk' and see if it lets you select a proprietary graphics driver. Let it install it, log out and try logging in normally
[01:34] <holyguyver_> jrib, I have even manually reutrned my xorg.conf to an older version & it changed nothing.
[01:34] <Dat1> TrustNoOne: Dat1, iwlist wan0 scan                                                   │adante          │
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[01:34] <Dat1> │(19:33:27) Phantomas: erUSUL: i tried to log out and log in but forkbomb worked again :(        │afink           │
[01:34] <Dat1> │(19:33:29) soundray: droopsta915: please employ some basic manners when you're asking for       │AfterDea1h      │
[01:34] <FloodBot1> Dat1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:34] <Dat1> │help. Here's a suggestion for solving your problem: run 'sudo jockey-gtk' and see if it lets    │agent0x0        │
[01:34] <darren_> Ok strange thing happening with ubuntu hardy 8.04 I have a built in wireless and a usb wireless the built in shows signel strength in colours, but the usb does not, I have tried the wireless in my girlfriends laptop with the same version of ubuntu and the same drivers both freash installs, and it works perfect, also tried with two other usb wireless and the same problem, also done a fresh install of ubuntu, but same problem, if some one could help its drivi
[01:34] <darren_> ng me nuts, no one seems to have the same problem in the furoms.
[01:34] <Kevin_is_Gay> Windows FTW
[01:34] <erUSUL> Phantomas: do "ulimit -u 2000" then from that shell launch the forkbomb
[01:34] <jrib> holyguyver_: I don't understand what you are doing.  You need to run the autodetect script (dpkg-reconfigure), then not mess with your xorg.conf anymore, then restart X.
[01:35] <holyguyver_> jrib, No I did that this morning.
[01:35] <mgolisch> i think it doesnt do anything
[01:35] <Phantomas> erUSUL: the line i added to limits.conf is :
[01:35] <Kevin_is_Gay> Windows is so much more stable and easier to use than Linux
[01:35] <Phantomas> username hard nproc 50
[01:35] <soundray> jrib: dpkg-reconfigure doesn't do any autodetection in hardy any more
[01:35] <mgolisch> you need to boot the recovery entry in grub, then select fix x or so in the prompt
[01:35] <Phantomas> but the user
[01:35] <argento> Kevin_is_Gay, what??????????????????????
[01:35] <Flannel> Kevin_is_Gay: Do you have a question?
[01:35] <jrib> holyguyver_: well then you are just lying to me then, since you told me your autodetect script freezes until a few minutes ago.  I can't help you like this
[01:36] <Phantomas> got in through ssh and ran the bomb succesfully
[01:36] <ASrock> Kevin_is_Gay: wtf
[01:36] <holyguyver_> jrib, I went to an earlier version of xorg.conf at around 10 this morning.
[01:36] <Kevin_is_Gay> I have a question when was the last time ny of you got any?
[01:36] <holyguyver_> jrib, I am not lieying the thing you are talking about I completed for the first time now, but the going to a backup of xorg I did this morning.
[01:36] <jrib> soundray: ah, wiki should be updated
[01:36] <soundray> argento, ASrock: please don't encourage trolls
[01:37] <ASrock> soundra: ok srry
[01:37] <utnubu_user> anyone knows how to map, find, a network drive?
[01:37] <holyguyver_> jrib, I am not lieying the thing you are talking about I completed for the first time now, but the going to a backup of xorg I did this morning
[01:37] <juan> erm i killed my install, the / is fine AFAIK but the /boot is ruined, im working of an install on a second drive how can i make the /boot boot to my old /
[01:37] <sloopy> soundray, why? i got some this morning and am proud of it... i wanted to make sure kig knew it ;')
[01:37] <TrustNoOne> how did that lame wad kevin guy get in here? IE: how would he know about this channel/server if he is a M$ lober
[01:37] <erUSUL> utnubu_user: i take that Places>Net>Windows Net does not work?
[01:37] <TrustNoOne> lover*
[01:37] <Flannel> TrustNoOne: Its not important.
[01:37] <Dat1> TrustNoOne,  iwlist wan0 scan didn't work
[01:38] <Kevin21> Hi
[01:38] <droopsta915> what did i do wrong?? basic manners? I thoght i ask a question andsomeone helps? It's been that way for the past 4 months.. Sorry if I offended anyone. I guess I'll keep my manners in check next time.
[01:38] <jrib> holyguyver_: well about 3 times I asked you to restart X after completing this thing and somehow we end up arguing.  Anyway, since soundray just told us it doesn't do autodetection anymore, move on to the next step on the wiki
[01:38] <erUSUL> TrustNoOne: no MS lover just a troll
[01:38] <utnubu_user> erUSUL, nope, I already tried that :(
[01:38] <Kevin21> Could someone please tell me how to update ALSA? I run the config in the desktop folder but nothing happens when i goto synaptics manager
[01:38] <erUSUL> !samba | utnubu_user
[01:38] <soundray> droopsta915: never mind. Did you try my suggestion?
[01:38] <erUSUL> !intelhda | Kevin21
[01:38] <TrustNoOne> Dat1, well wan0 might not be your network device, you have to check what it is and replace wan0 with whatever it is
[01:39] <Phantomas> erUSUL: any ideas ?
[01:39] <Kevin21> thanks
[01:39] <Dat1> TrustNoOne wlan0 is what it is and didn't work either.  :9
[01:39] <droopsta915> soundray: ill be back need to restart comp, be back in a few and let u know. thanx for the help.
[01:39] <erUSUL> Phantomas: how are you launching the fork bomb?
[01:40] <Phantomas> erUSUL: its not me who is launching it
[01:40] <Phantomas> its an ssh user
[01:40] <Phantomas> (friend)
[01:40] <holyguyver_> jrib,  Alright I do not understand how nano works
[01:41] <jrib> holyguyver_: ctrl-o to save, ctrl-x to exit
[01:41] <holyguyver_> jrib, but how do I change anything in it?
[01:41] <erUSUL> Phantomas: well then dunno should have worked... it works here without a hitch
[01:42] <Dat1> Hi I need to know how to connect to my wireless router without using the network manager as it is installed at the moment.
[01:42] <Phantomas> erUSUL: ulimit is global or for the current user?
[01:42] <jrib> holyguyver_: it's a text editor, you just press keys.  You can use 'gksudo gedit' instead of 'sudo nano' if you want
[01:42] <TrustNoOne> Dat1, if 'iwlist wlan0 scan' does not work in terminal, make sure driver is working properly for your wireless card
[01:42] <Dat1> uninstalled*
[01:42] <erUSUL> Phantomas: ulimit from command line is for the current *shell*
[01:43] <Phantomas> oh
[01:43] <holyguyver_> jrib, well I already did all of that in gedit about 30 times this morning & it had no effect, not even when I reverted to an older version.
[01:43] <Phantomas> you mean if i press close button to the terminal it will be erased?
[01:43] <Dat1> TrustNoOne, It says "No scan results"  but I was just using aircrack so I know its working,
[01:43] <erUSUL> Phantomas: yep. the important thing is /etc/security/limits.conf
[01:43] <droopsta915> soundray; it worked!!! my resolution is a little small but it's ok. ;) thank you
[01:44] <xiambax> :D
[01:44] <xiambax> What did you install ubuntu on?
[01:44] <xiambax> eeePC or aspire one?
[01:44] <mgolisch> Dat1: use sudo iwlist scan, it might not show anything if not run as root
[01:44] <tina> sloopy, Ok, I found out what these durned labels are...  Now, any idea on how to kick the whole thing over about an 1/8" to the right?
[01:44] <Phantomas> erUSUL: can you give me the exact line you added to limits.conf?
[01:44] <holyguyver_> j
[01:44] <jrib> holyguyver_: reverting to an earlier version UNDOES the changes you made.  It does not help you test these suggestions on the wiki
[01:44] <tina> Changing page layout moves things all around...
[01:44] <holyguyver_> jrib, but I also did those too.
[01:45] <TrustNoOne> Dat1, try '
[01:45] <TrustNoOne> sorry
[01:45] <jrib> holyguyver_: pastebin what your /etc/X11/xorg.conf looks like after following this step of the wiki
[01:45] <droopsta915> Do i need a special graphiics card, to use the fusion desktops?
[01:45] <bronze1052> okay!  I've searched the FAQ;  and I can not for the love of God figure out how to get my dell wireless PCI card working
[01:45] <sloopy> tina, heh not really, i am not that familiar with OO, my wife is more the office type person then i am i use vim for all text work
[01:45] <jrib> !wifi > bronze1052
[01:45] <jrib> bronze1052: seen that?
[01:45] <TrustNoOne> Dat1, try 'ifconfig wlan0 down' then 'ifconfig wlan0 up' then 'iwlist wlan0 scan'
[01:45] <Dat1> TrustNoOne, wlan0 "Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down"
[01:45] <holyguyver_> jrib, I already did that for someone in here named hw(something at 9 this morning
[01:45] <Dat1> ok
[01:46] <sloopy> tina, doing a google on it probly would give a better answer
[01:46] <jrib> holyguyver_: honestly, do you just want to waste my time?  Why wouldn't you begin by telling me that?
[01:46] <droopsta915> my ba, compis fusion
[01:46] <holyguyver_> jrib, because you was here this morning
[01:46] <hwilde> lol @ jrib.   I told that guy to reinstall like 12 hrs ago   holyguyver_
[01:46] <holyguyver_> jrib, See that is the hw man
[01:47] <sloopy> tina, maybe try moving margins?
[01:47] <soundray> droopsta915: what driver did it offer?
[01:47] <Dat1> TrustNoOne, That worked  :)
[01:47] <Dat1> now how to connect?
[01:48] <holyguyver_> jrib, Alk, hwilde , soundray you have all tried to help me, & my problem persists.
[01:48] <techaddict> Are any of the repositories down for updates?
[01:48] <TrustNoOne> Dat1, just give me 1 min here im multi-tasking heh
[01:48] <bronze1052> I am just brand new to linux, and ubuntu; i don't even know the basics, but i at least need internet connection to figure out the basics. but the faqs and documentation use all this lingo that I don't know
[01:48] <yabuk> is there a version of ubuntu to boot and just show the terminal (without try to load the graphical interface) or a option to boot that do this?
[01:48] <hwilde> holyguyver_, pastebinit -i /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:48] <Dat1> TrustNoOne, no hurry, thanks
[01:48] <hwilde> yabuk - try ctrl+alt+f1     ctrl+alt+f7 to get back here
[01:48] <techaddict> Are any of the repositories down for updates?
[01:48] <holyguyver_> hwilde, jrib http://pastebin.com/f1ff38ad5
[01:48] <rexus> hi guys, how can I know what driver is used for my Wireless device in ubuntu 8.04?
[01:49] <danbh_intrepid> rexus: is it pci or usb?
[01:49] <bronze1052> Can someone tell what edgy is?
[01:49] <tina> sloopy, I've only got .01" to paly with on the right, but I will give 'er a go
[01:49] <soundray> !edgy | bronze1052
[01:49] <holyguyver_> bronze1052, !edgy
[01:49] <rexus> danbh_intrepid: it is embedded in my laptop
[01:50] <yabuk> no,hwilde, there isn't a OS installed/ working on the notebook, I'm online from my pc
[01:50] <basti> yabuk, you can remove the startscript in runlevel 2
[01:50] <rexus> intel 3945ABG
[01:50] <ninja> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/libsmbclient_3.0.28a-1ubuntu4.5_i386.deb
[01:50] <ninja>   503 Forwarding failure
[01:50] <ninja> :-( got this after trying to update with update manager, Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-19-generic?
[01:50] <hwilde> yabuk, boot into the livecd and hit ctrl+alt+f1 ok
[01:50] <shey> ninja: keep trying.
[01:51] <yabuk> remove from the ubuntu-live-cd and bund other cd?
[01:51] <holyguyver_> hwilde, jrib so that do you think of my pastebinit thing?
[01:51] <Thedjatclubrock> <#
[01:51] <Thedjatclubrock> <3
[01:51] <Aaron_Mason> ninja, did you update the repositories? apt-get update
[01:51] <Aaron_Mason> hey all, does anybody know how to prevent Rhythmbox from sorting files loaded onto an MP3 player into directories?
[01:51] <Kevin21> hey
[01:51] <hwilde> holyguyver_, you are 3 kernels behind, you need to update  Current Operating System: Linux jack-desktop 2.6.24-16-generic
[01:51] <jrib> holyguyver_: search it for (EE), it may give you some insight into your issue
[01:51] <soundray> droopsta915: what driver did jockey-gtk install for you?
[01:51] <basti> yabuk, you want to use a live cd or a installed ubuntu?
[01:51] <Kevin21> k, I type in : sudo cp ~/downloads/alsa* .
[01:51] <Thedjatclubrock> !help
[01:51] <Thedjatclubrock> !
[01:51] <hwilde> holyguyver_, mine is 2.6.25-19 you only have 16.  run the updates
[01:52] <Kevin21> and i get this: target `/home/kevin/downloads/alsa-utils-1.0.18rc3.tar.bz2' is not a directory
[01:52] <Thedjatclubrock> Wow
[01:52] <juan> is it possible to fix a 64bit system from a 32bit livecd?
[01:52] <ksa> hi
[01:52] <Kevin21> i don't understand what its about
[01:52] <visik7> anyone know how to open a dmg file ? (not the hfs)
[01:52] <Thedjatclubrock> juan: Yes
[01:52] <ksa> i arbaic
[01:52] <Aaron_Mason> Kevin21: type echo cp ~/downloads/alsa* and paste what comes up
[01:52] <droopsta915> soundray: ATI accelerated drivers
[01:52] <Thedjatclubrock> visik7: Let me look
[01:52] <holyguyver_> hwilde, I am three kernals behind on perpose, someone said that would help, I do have the other ones, I chose to log into the older kernal to fallow that other persons advise. I have the newer ones, just at bootup I chose to log into the older one.
[01:52] <droopsta915> soundray: ATI accelerated graphics drivers
[01:53] <ksa> هل تتكلمون العربية
[01:53] <droopsta915> sorry
[01:53] <ksa> اين
[01:53] <Thedjatclubrock> visik7: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/dmg.htm
[01:53] <rexus> danbh_intrepid : it is an intel 3945ABG wireless
[01:53] <bronze1052> if i read a documentation for feisty; will that help me since i have handy heron 8.04?
[01:53] <hwilde> holyguyver_, no no no reboot in to the latest.  and get rid of the virtual specified in your xorg.  your pastebin line 1766 (--) VESA(0): Virtual size is 800x600 (pitch 800)
[01:53] <Dat1> TrustNoOne, I think I might Have found it
[01:53] <Kevin21> cp /home/kevin/downloads/alsa-driver-1.0.18rc3.tar.bz2 /home/kevin/downloads/alsa-lib-1.0.18rc3.tar.bz2 /home/kevin/downloads/alsa-utils-1.0.18rc3.tar.bz2
[01:53] <visik7> Thedjatclubrock: not the hfs format, the other one
[01:53] <ninja> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[01:53] <Thedjatclubrock> ?
[01:53] <danbh_intrepid> rexus: well, I kinda forget, but its there if you run : sudo lshw
[01:53] <soundray> droopsta915: they should be okay for running compiz. To adjust your resolution, have a look at System-Preferences-Screen Resolution
[01:53] <Thedjatclubrock> visik7: Which?
[01:53] <hwilde> holyguyver_,  VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1024x768" (width too large for virtual size)
[01:53] <juan> ive basically messed up my /boot the guide to fix it need me to chroot into the 64bit install to fix it but i cant. what should i be googling to find a way round this?
[01:53] <TrustNoOne> Dat1, sorry, it is 'iwconfig essid "ssid"'
[01:54] <TrustNoOne> Dat1, then 'iwconfig key "yourkey"'
[01:54] <visik7> Thedjatclubrock: VAX COFF
[01:54] <holyguyver_> hwilde, I have changed those things a dousen times but then when I restart & then reconfigure x it keeps puttign those back.
[01:54] <ksa> i  wireless no net ?
[01:54] <yabuk> hwilde, understand me, the live cd stop when trying to boot to graphical interface, I want a option of boot or a vertion /remix of ubuntu that don't start the graphical interface and let me use a terminal (or something similar)
[01:54] <Thedjatclubrock> I don't know.
[01:54] <ksa> my pc id satellite
[01:54] <Kevin21> its there, it wont work though?
[01:54] <droopsta915> soundray; do u know how i can make the 3d cube when switching desktops, or a website?
[01:54] <hwilde> yabuk server verison has no gui
[01:54] <ksa><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:54] <soundray> !alternate | yabuk
[01:55] <ksa> help mu lpz
[01:55] <hwilde> holyguyver_, look that is the error, what do you want ME to do about it?  (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1024x768" (width too large for virtual size)
[01:55] <ksa> ^_^
[01:55] <bazhang> !sa | ksa
[01:55] <Kevin21> Aaron_Mason: cp /home/kevin/downloads/alsa-driver-1.0.18rc3.tar.bz2 /home/kevin/downloads/alsa-lib-1.0.18rc3.tar.bz2 /home/kevin/downloads/alsa-utils-1.0.18rc3.tar.bz2
[01:55] <ksa> السلام عليكم
[01:55] <hwilde> holyguyver_, pastebinit - /etc/X11/xorg.conf     get rid of  that virtual line.  get rid of that error in Xorg.0.log
[01:56] <soundray> droopsta915: enable effects through System-Preferences-Appearance-Visual Effects. Then follow these factoids:
[01:56] <juan> Thedjatclubrock: how can i fix a 64bit /boot from x86, i cant chroot what should i do?
[01:56] <bazhang> ksa /join #ubuntu-sa
[01:56] <soundray> !ccsm > droopsta915
[01:56] <bronze1052> guys... i'm pretty decent with computers; i swear i've given a decent look into the documentation to no avail (too much lingo i don't know) ; can someone please help me get my wireless card up
[01:56] <soundray> !cube > droopsta915
[01:56] <yabuk> but this cd just install on text mode, didn't it? or does it let me use a terminal too?
[01:56] <holyguyver_> hwilde, Yes the error is that I keep changing it to "1024x768" then restarting x, & then it at startup keeps on switching it back to 800x600.
[01:56] <yabuk> hwilde, see above
[01:56] <Thedjatclubrock> juan: /join #u-support
[01:56] <Flannel> bronze1052: What card is it?
[01:56] <Flannel> Thedjatclubrock: What?
[01:56] <bazhang> Thedjatclubrock, what channel is that
[01:56] <danbh_intrepid> bronze1052: when you ask that question, can you please list the model card you are using?
[01:56] <hwilde> !server | yabuk
[01:57] <rexus> thanks danbh_intrepid
[01:57] <bazhang> !away > Thedjatclubrock
[01:57] <Kevin21> like, i can transfer the files over throught he GUI, but i can't find the alsa folder IN /sbin
[01:57] <Thedjatclubrock> Sorry bout that
[01:57] <hwilde> holyguyver_, change it to 1024x768, remove the virtual line, ctrl+alt+backspace.  pastebin the /var/log/Xorg.log
[01:57] <Flannel> Thedjatclubrock: Nothing wrong with your away.  but, what is #u-support?
[01:57] <yabuk> hwilde, thanks
[01:57] <Thedjatclubrock> Flannel: A quieter channek
[01:58] <Kevin21> it'd make more sense if i could find the things
[01:58] <Kevin21> and i mean, if sudo is supposed to force everything, why doesn;t it jsut force the copy?
[01:58] <Aaron_Mason> Kevin21: ok, try changing to the directory where they sit and going sudo cp alsa* /where/they/re/going
[01:58] <jrib> Kevin21: sudo doesn't mean force
[01:59] <hwilde> Kevin21, cp -f forces
[01:59] <soundray> Kevin21: I think you made a mistake entering that command ^^. You left off the . at the end
[01:59] <bronze1052> flannel:  when im in windows I know it's a dell wireless 1390 WLAN mini-pci ; but when i did lspci  it says my network controller is a broadcom corporation BCM94311MCG ; but there is only bcmd4311  listen on documentations
[01:59] <Josdell> hey guys. my bottom toolbar dissappear after i let someone else use it, how do I restore it?
[02:00] <bronze1052> flannel:  but there is only ***bcm4311***  **listed** on documentations
[02:01] <Flannel> bronze1052: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy
[02:01] <jrib> Josdell: right click on the top panel and add a new panel
[02:01] <soundray> Josdell: you can reset the panels to their original state using ubottu's advice:
[02:01] <soundray> !resetpanel | josdell
[02:01] <Josdell> soundray and jrib thankk a lot
[02:01] <bronze1052> i've downloaded the lastest version of ndiswrapper;  but i'm not sure if i need it or not; cuz the network icon is there, but it just won't pick up any of the wirless networks;; okay'll try that faq then come back
[02:02] <Josdell> umm now I have no panels at all...
[02:03] <danbh_intrepid> Josdell: try running gnome-panel, or logging in and out
[02:03] <Josdell> how do i log out if i cant click the terminal
[02:04] <soundray> Josdell: close your apps and hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[02:04] <soundray> Josdell: were you following the reset procedure or jrib's suggestion?
[02:04] <Dat1> TrustNoOne, got it working, thanks
[02:04] <Josdell> soundray: both lol, I'm sorry
[02:04] <TrustNoOne> Datz, np
[02:04] <Kevin21> Aaron_mason: i typed this kevin@kevin-asusf6v:/usr/src/alsa$ sudo cp ~/downloads/alsa* usr/src/alsa
[02:05] <Kevin21> and i get this cp: target `usr/src/alsa.' is not a directory
[02:05] <Aaron_Mason> try /usr/src/alsa
[02:05] <bronze1052> see, when going through documentation i always end up coming across stuff like this, "To use the packages in this repository, add the following lines to                  /etc/apt/sources.list"  which i have no clue what that means
[02:06] <Kevin21> oh cool
[02:06] <Kevin21> i think that worked
[02:06] <hipertracker> Can anybody explain me why Ubuntu 7.10 for "sudo su" does not read /etc/profile nor ~/.profile for local user and for root? It is insane: http://wklej.org/id/4142/
[02:06] <Flannel> bronze1052: /etc/apt/sources.list is a file, open it in a text editor
[02:06] <Kevin21> it doesnt say anything, jsut goes to a new line if it works?
[02:06] <soundray> bronze1052: it's a file. You can open it with 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' and then type in the lines you're supposed to add.
[02:07] <hwilde> hipertracker, maybe it doesn't behave like you expect bc that cmd is deprecated?
[02:07] <Kevin21> hey
[02:07] <hipertracker> hwilde: what is depreciated?
[02:07] <Kevin21> Aaron_mason: thanks a bunch
[02:07] <dmsuperman> How can I add myself to a group from the command line? The group I want to add myself to doesn't show up in the GUI users & groups editor
[02:07] <hwilde> !sudo | hipertracker
[02:07] <soundray> hipertracker: 'sudo su' is deprecated. 'sudo -i' should be sane
[02:08] <soundray> !rootshell | hipertracker
[02:08] <Kevin21> you guys should get paid for this - by the government or universities or something
[02:08] <Flannel> dmsuperman: sudo adduser user group
[02:08] <hwilde> !donate > Kevin21
[02:08] <dido> hello .how to install Adobe Shockwave Player on Ubuntu?
[02:08] <hipertracker> I do no understand? sudo my-command id depreciated???
[02:09] <jrib> !shockwave > dido
[02:09] <hipertracker> er, I don't get it
[02:09] <soundray> hipertracker: no, only 'sudo su' is deprecated
[02:09] <hwilde> !root | hipertracker
[02:09] <bronze1052> do i just add the provided lines to the end of the sources.list  file?  and what does adding these lines do exactly?
[02:10] <ninja> I apt-get update in a terminal as sudo , and there is no change, still can't get any updates
[02:10] <soundray> bronze1052: it lists the sites that your installation uses to get new and updated packages (repositories)
[02:10] <hipertracker> what about this? http://wklej.org/id/4143/
[02:11] <bronze1052> ooohhhh!!!! THAT MAKES SENSE!!!
[02:11] <dmsuperman> Flannel: If I add myself to www-data, and www-data is the group that owns the folder, and the permissions are 0755, should I not then be able to edit the file inside? All of those permissions are recursive, btw
[02:11] <bronze1052>   is  http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/   a safe source to add to my list?
[02:12] <soundray> bronze1052: when you've changed it, run 'sudo apt-get update' to get the package lists from those repos. Then your system will know which of its installed packages have updates available.
[02:12] <bazhang> bronze1052, why do you need that 3rd party repo
[02:12] <soundray> bronze1052: cafuego is a trusted community member
[02:12] <Flannel> dmsuperman: 755 means you can read and execute, not write.
[02:13] <bronze1052> my dell wireless 1390 mini-pci card  won't show any wireless signals coming from anywhere;  so i'm assuming there's something wrong with the driver
[02:13] <Flannel> dmsuperman: also, regular files shouldn't be executable, only directories.
[02:14] <dmsuperman> Flannel: Alright, perhaps I'm simply mistaken. Do you know if apache has, for some reason, stopped using www-data as it's user in hardy?
[02:14] <Flannel> dmsuperman: It is still www-data:www-data, yes.
[02:15] <Ultra_Cheese> hi
[02:15] <Ultra_Cheese> having trouble with my sound :(
[02:15] <dmsuperman> Flannel: Alright, thanks
[02:15] <tomvolek> can i install 64 bit on intel core2 duo laptops ?
[02:15] <Flannel> tomvolek: yes
[02:16] <hipertracker> ubuntulog:
[02:16] <tomvolek> thanks Flannel ...
[02:16] <bronze1052> i just typed in the two lines into sources.list usting text editer;  but when i pressed saved, it said i dont have the permissions to save the file ; but i already typed in my password to open the file
[02:16] <tomvolek> Flannel,  any problem installing ubuntu 8 as a dual boot on vista ?
[02:16] <TrustNoOne> in xchat how can you make it so when you close the main window it goes to tray instead of quit
[02:16] <Flannel> tomvolek: Nope, you should be good.
[02:17] <tomvolek> thanks Flannel
[02:17] <basti> TrustNoOne, afaik the linux version of xchat does not have this feature
[02:17] <Ultra_Cheese> everything that uses sound keeps freezing on me
[02:17] <Xlayer> what is the ubuntu?
[02:18] <hipertracker> ubottu: I do not want to guess root password. I have root access if I want.  Some libraries use it
[02:20] <bronze1052> i am going to go read a faq that explains to me who sudo is, and i'll come back
[02:20] <TrustNoOne> basti, yeah I did that but when i close the xchat window it doesnt minimize to tray, instead it quits
[02:20] <TrustNoOne> Datz, for the network manager gui I am not too sure
[02:20] <dido> i have two partition one for windows and the other for Ubuntu .i wanna destroy windows and large hard disk .how can you do that?
[02:20] <TrustNoOne> Datz, i can check
[02:21] <Flannel> bronze1052: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" or "gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list", but general knowledge is good too
[02:21] <hipertracker> bazhang: err, I do not use sudo su at all. I use sudo my command and it does not work as I expect.
[02:21] <Datz> TrustNoOne, thanks, I'm looking too.  :)
[02:21] <basti> TrustNoOne, works for me. so sorry....
[02:21] <td123> dido: keep the dual boot just in case :) seriously
[02:21] <Loganhoup> I think saturday is imbisol day.
[02:21] <TrustNoOne> basti, the way you told me isnt the same for me, i dont have warnings section, it is alerts section, what version of xchat do you have
[02:21] <td123> Loganhoup: friday is troll day\
[02:21] <Loganhoup> cool
[02:22] <Loganhoup> whats monday?
[02:22] <hipertracker> bazhang: e.g. sudo whatever-i-type does not keep $PATH for current user nor for root
[02:22] <holyguyver> hwilde, I am back
[02:22] <Loganhoup> I hate monkeys day?
[02:22] <td123> Loganhoup: monday is just another monday
[02:22] <basti> TrustNoOne, i have am german and i just translated. didnt knoe the actual translation they used
[02:22] <bazhang> Loganhoup, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:22] <basti> *an german version*
[02:22] <Holydiver> i have a weird problem with ubuntu, it's the same in this topic : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=363958
[02:22] <Holydiver> plz help !
[02:22] <bazhang> td123, you too
[02:22] <hipertracker> bazhang: see : http://wklej.org/id/4143/
[02:22] <bronze1052> can anyone recomend a good explanation of sudo doc?
[02:22] <Flannel> hipertracker: the sudo man page should be able to clear it up
[02:22] <td123> bazhang: ok:P
[02:22] <Flannel> bronze1052: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[02:23] <fire^fox> someone never heard about a snoopdos application for linux ?
[02:23] <hipertracker> Flannel: bullshit. man does not explain anything about loosing $PATH
[02:23] <Flannel> hipertracker: Please watch your language.
[02:23] <bazhang> hipertracker, lose the attitude and the cursing
[02:23] <fire^fox> or something like that ?
[02:23] <hipertracker> Flannel: it is frustrated
[02:23] <bronze1052> btw...  I <3  flannel
[02:24] <TrustNoOne> Datz, try nm-applet
[02:24] <Flannel> hipertracker: and, it does.  Read the bottom parts regarding the environment.
[02:24] <TrustNoOne> Datz, http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[02:24] <Cpudan80> anybody know why when I print stuff it always goes to "held" status?
[02:24] <Cpudan80> I always have to go in and hit "resume" or whatever
[02:24] <hwilde> hipertracker, want a quick hack?    type in  sudo mv /usr/local/bin/gem /usr/local/bin/gem.bak  && sudo ln -s /opt/ruby-enterprise/bin/gem /usr/local/bin/gem && sudo which gem
[02:24] <Cpudan80> not a big deal -- but a minor annoyance
[02:25] <Leefmc> Question: What is the common problem when you can only have a single sound program using the device at a time? I've read that ASLA should be used, but i do. The even odder thing is, i can have Flash, Movieplayer, Amarok, all playing at the same time. But some specific problems wont play at the same time.. thoughts?
[02:25] <hipertracker> hwilde: why not change $PATH instead? I want to chaneg $PATH
[02:25] <hwilde> hipertracker, type in sudo chaneg $PATH then
[02:25] <Holydiver> Leefmc, it's the OSS driver which cannot be accessed from multiple apps
[02:25] <dimedo> any ideas why vsftpd on pam_userdb with crypted passwords isn't working? i'm pretty sure the hashes and the db are ok, the whole thing worked when it used plaintext password, i simply regenerated the db file and set the crypted=crypted option in the pam config
[02:26] <hipertracker> hwilde: But it does not work! That is whole point.
[02:26] <Kevin_> I've got a headless server running hardy and I have the kde-core package (to provide a gui) installed. I'm looking to get a vnc server set up so that I can login to my headless box through KDM through VNC. I've looked around and tried several different methods but no success. I am aware that under most circumstances this would be considered an unwise setup but I would really like to be able to have a persistent X with KDE session availa
[02:26] <Holydiver> Leefmc, at the same time of course
[02:26] <hwilde> hipertracker, what I said to do will work
[02:26] <kingsley> When you look at http://www.nbc.com/The_Tonight_Show_with_Jay_Leno/video/episodes/, can you pick an episode of NBC's Tonight Show to watch, or do you just see NBC's peacock?
[02:26] <Leefmc> Holydiver: But under sound, i have ALSA chosen for all dropdowns. What is the issue?
[02:26] <Loganhoup> tell me thats not a big post
[02:26] <Loganhoup> message whatever
[02:26] <Holydiver> Leefmc, you cannot play sound from more than one app ??
[02:26] <TrustNoOne> Leefmc, I have the same issue, I can play amarok and totem at the same time, but I can't watch videos on youtube while totem or amarok are playing... I have to turn them off and restart firefox for youtube to work
[02:26] <yabuk> is there a way to format a hd of a notebook by  local network ( lan ) without run any live cd, just connecting a notebook-pc cable?
[02:27] <Loganhoup> yabuk. I don't think so, try googling it
[02:27] <hipertracker> hwilde: it is dirty hack and it does not explain why sudo command does not see PATH for root nor for current user.
[02:27] <Holydiver> Leefmc, ah i see now :D and i have the same problem :D i never knew why flash videos don't play sound sometimes
[02:27] <yabuk> ok
[02:27] <Leefmc> Holydiver: Mine is similar to trust's. Except i CAN listen to flash, movieplayer, amarok, etc, but SOME apps (in this case, vmware and amarok) wont play together.
[02:27] <Holydiver> so anybody can help ? i have the same problem than this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=363958
[02:27] <Loganhoup> it is amazing how many problems in here can be solved by a google search or even a buntuforums search
[02:28] <starn> when using imap with gmail does evolution download the emails onto the computer? and back up the files?
[02:28] <hwilde> hipertracker, sudo will see root's path.
[02:28] <Holydiver> Leefmc, well i cannot help you since i have the same problem and i cannot help myself :D
[02:28] <bazhang> !ot | Loganhoup
[02:28] <Leefmc> Holydiver: Heh, k
[02:28] <Holydiver> Leefmc, sorry :P
[02:28] <Loganhoup> ....
[02:28] <Flannel> hwilde: You should be able to configure it to do it, (if it doesn't by default)
[02:28] <bazhang> Loganhoup, take chat elsewhere
[02:28] <hipertracker> hwilde: It does NOT
[02:28] <TrustNoOne> Leefmc, I wouldn't worry much about it, as I said I have a similar issue and it's not like i need to watch youtube videos while listening to amarok right?
[02:28] <Holydiver> Leefmc, i thought u were saying something else
[02:28] <Loganhoup> bazhang, go hang your balls on a tree
[02:28] <Aquahallic> evenin' folks
[02:28] <Flannel> Loganhoup: Please be polite.
[02:28] <Loganhoup> I try
[02:29] <Aquahallic> is there a vncviewer that can scale??
[02:29] <Leefmc> TrustNoOne: In that example sure, but i basically need to do _everything_ while listening to amarok.
[02:29] <hipertracker> hwilde: see http://wklej.org/id/4142/
[02:29] <bronze1052> whats the difference between  "su  and "sudo"  ;  and is my root password different from my user password (the only password i've put on the system)?
[02:29] <Kevin21> Hi
[02:29] <basti> bronze1052, with su you become root
[02:29] <juan> is anybody else having problems with http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ ?
[02:29] <Flannel> bronze1052: You have no root password (root account is locked).  sudo uses your user password.
[02:29] <basti> with sudo you execute a command as root
[02:30] <Kevin21> So i'm in my /usr/src/ folder, and i'm trying to do my HDA, and its asking my to use the linux kernel file
[02:30] <hipertracker> sudo execute command as root but in unpredictable environment
[02:30] <Kevin21> exept i have two linux kernel folders
[02:30] <Flannel> hipertracker: Can you give us the output of echo $PATH && sudo echo $PATH ?
[02:30] <TrustNoOne> Leefmc, on my laptop I have the main audio on speaker and a headset using USB, I can listen to amaork on my speakers while chatting on skype using my headset, I just have to change the programs audio options to my headset, so perhaps try that method?
[02:30] <starn> when using imap with gmail does evolution download the emails onto the computer? and back up the files? also whats a good spam filter ? bogofliter? or spamassasin??
[02:30] <basti> Kevin21, you have two source/header folders
[02:30] <basti> Kevin21, uname -r
[02:31] <bronze1052> so  sudo  is a temporary root permission;  whereas  su  would be a permanent permission (if it weren't locked by default) ?
[02:31] <Leefmc> TrustNoOne: Nah, i'd prefer to fix it.
[02:31] <Kevin21> linux.headers-2.6.24-19 and 24-21
[02:31] <basti> brock081, exactly
[02:31] <Kevin21> uname -r?
[02:31] <woli> i'm seting up a lamp on my computer, but seeing that i can already access webpages from my <host-name>/index.htm
[02:31] <Kevin21> basti: uname-r?
[02:31] <Flannel> starn: You should be able to configure it to do it, (if it doesn't by default)
[02:31] <Loganhoup> flannel: root account is not "locked". it isn't activated
[02:31] <woli> what is the use of mysql?
[02:31] <TrustNoOne> Leefmc, let me know if u find a solution then... because I hate restarting firefox ^_^
[02:31] <Flannel> Loganhoup: It is locked.
[02:31] <Loganhoup> you can activate it by running sudo passwd root
[02:31] <Loganhoup> then why can I log in with it
[02:31] <hipertracker> Flannel: http://wklej.org/id/4146/
[02:31] <Flannel> Loganhoup: that's the same as unlocking it.  And please don't recommend that here.
[02:32] <Loganhoup> It is highly unrecommended to use it with GUI
[02:32] <starn> Flannel: ok.. but know wich spam filter works best?
[02:32] <Loganhoup> and so I never have and never will reccommend it. Just saying. it is there...
[02:32] <hwilde> Loganhoup, you understand once you set the root password, I can hack it, right ?
[02:33] <hwilde> but if you don't set the root pw......
[02:33] <lacy> well good news everyone i got world of warcraft to run on Ubuntu :)
[02:33] <Kevin21> basti: which one do i use?
[02:33] <TrustNoOne> lacy, with wine?
[02:33] <Flannel> hipertracker: And whats the problem?
[02:33] <Kevin21> oooh
[02:33] <Kevin21> basti: thanks
[02:33] <Loganhoup> fully
[02:33] <dido> can any one gave me Linux magazine  hors serie 15.
[02:33] <Kevin21> im daft
[02:33] <lacy> yes
[02:33]  * juan yawns at yet another sudo vs su argument FFS sudo -i is like su and su -c is like sudo can everybody just get over it already
[02:33] <Winston_SmithVT> Firefox is always starting in offline mode, how can I gix this?
[02:33] <hwilde> hipertracker, sudo will see root's path...
[02:34] <Loganhoup> sudo -i is a basically a caps lock
[02:34] <juan> Winston_SmithVT: i thinl you need firefox-gnome-support
[02:34] <halycon> hey everyone I have accidentally screwed up my Mozilla Thunderbird launcher and I am just wondering what the default command is to launch it
[02:34] <Winston_SmithVT> juan: Firefox-gnome-support, is that a package?
[02:35] <Flannel> hipertracker: probably thunderbird, or mozilla-thunderbird
[02:35] <bronze1052> what  do  the    "su"  and  "sudo"  abbreviations stand for?  if anything
[02:35] <TrustNoOne> bronze1052, super user
[02:35] <Flannel> yabuk: dpkg -L mozilla-thunderbird | grep bin
[02:35] <hwilde> Flannel, nicew
[02:35] <danbh_intrepid> bronze1052: Super User, and Super User DO
[02:35] <Flannel> bronze1052: and sudo is switch user do
[02:35] <bronze1052> trustnoone,  does the "do"  in  "sudo"  abbreviate anything?
[02:36] <bronze1052> Thank you
[02:36] <Flannel> bronze1052: its a verb
[02:36] <Loganhoup> sudo is fake root su becomes root
[02:36] <TrustNoOne> bronze1052, not that i know of
[02:36] <hwilde> bronze1052, it abbreviates "execute"
[02:36] <hwilde> suexecute is a bit much to type
[02:36] <juan> Winston_SmithVT: i think so it might be called firefox-3.0-gnome-support or firefox-gnomer-support but its something like that
[02:36] <bronze1052> trustnoone, hwilde;  yes,  i'm assuming "do"  is  for the verb "do"  ;  like execute
[02:36] <hwilde> !info firefox-gnome-support | Winston_SmithVT
[02:37] <jimcooncat> whats the best single method for controlling a winXP guest: vnc over ssh (or putty)? rdp over openvpn? want to use clients that are thin or fat, win, osx or linux, on lan or remote; usb forwarding, sound, or printing would be nice features ?
[02:37] <tugrul_> hi
[02:37] <juan> Loganhoup: su is also fake root, only loging in a root is real root
[02:37] <tugrul_> i couldn't set my wireless card in ubuntu hardy
[02:37] <jimcooncat> plan to use hardy with kvm to do this.
[02:37] <Loganhoup> well. in a sense
[02:37] <tugrul_> its broadcom bcm4318
[02:37] <Loganhoup> its true
[02:37] <Flannel> Guys, can we take the theoretical sudo / su /whatever discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic?  thanks
[02:38] <bazhang> take sudo and su to -ot
[02:38] <tugrul_> is there a trick for this?
[02:38] <Flannel> tugrul_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/
[02:38] <anonymousT> Hi all
[02:39] <tugrul_> kernel is 2.6.24. should i use b43 or bcm43xx?
[02:39] <anonymousT> I'm trying to install ubuntu but the partitioner can't detect my partitions
[02:39] <anonymousT> I have 4 partitions in total, 3 NTFS, and one designated for ubuntu
[02:39] <bronze1052> i've heard that using the  sudo   command is dangerous, especially if some sneaky website faq  is asking you to use it;  is there a general rule of thumb to avoid trouble when using the sudo command,  and when taking people's advice that advise using the sudo command?
[02:39] <Jay^> is the one designed for ubuntu an extended partition ?
[02:40] <jrib> bronze1052: understand what you are doing
[02:40] <bazhang> bronze1052, move this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:40] <dido> how to change my Ubuntu 32 bit to 64 bit ?
[02:40] <bazhang> dido, reinstall
[02:40] <BigBear> bronze1052: http://ubuntuforums.org/announcement.php?f=334
[02:40] <hwilde> dido, download the 64bit cd and install it
[02:40] <Jay^> you have 2 re-install the kernel
[02:40] <anonymousT> Jay^: i'm not too sure but is there 2 kind of partitions or something?
[02:40] <Loganhoup> ah, that reminds me. Has anyone had problems with their Grub showing multiple installations
[02:40] <Loganhoup> ?
[02:40] <Jay^> i think u can do it with dpkg
[02:40] <EruditeHermit> hey, is there a way to reinstall every package on the machine?
[02:40] <Flannel> bronze1052: sudo allows you to make changes to your system (at the system level), so anything you do with sudo, you ought to understand.
[02:40] <dido> how can i change it by command line
[02:40] <anonymousT> Jay^: like one that can be divided into 3 and another that can't
[02:41] <jrib> dido: you can't.  You need to reinstall
[02:41] <Flannel> bronze1052: a malicious command using sudo can mess the entire system up (instead of just messing up your files)
[02:41] <bazhang> dido, you cannot
[02:41] <bazhang> dido, full reinstall
[02:41] <Jay^> well i don't think linux can see a windows volume in the exnteded partition
[02:41] <juan> dido: im having a similar problem atm as far as i can tell its not possible, you can keep your /home if its in a seperate partition though
[02:42] <jimcooncat> dido, you can back up your installed program list with apt (somehow), reinstall, then have your apps added back in
[02:42] <favro> !clone
[02:42] <jimcooncat> thanks favro
[02:42] <favro> np
[02:42] <tugrul_>  Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) => this rev 2 means v2 firmware, and i have to use bcm43xx module?
[02:43] <hipertracker> hwilde: It looks like it can see. But I still does not understand why after sudo su Ubuntu has totally different path? see: http://wklej.org/id/4147/
[02:43] <anonymousT> Jay^: but what's weird is that the empty partition used to have ubuntu (5.10 i think) installed on it
[02:43] <Jay^> hum
[02:43] <wineo> hey, i split up my partition, installed windows on it, and i think it killed my GRUB. how would i get it back
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> !grub | wineo
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> wineo: just hope you didn't kill your linux install, Windows has a tendency to want the whole drive
[02:44] <Jay^> u can boot debian CD1 and go 2 a shell and re-install grub from there
[02:44] <dido> is there any deffrance between Ubuntu 64 bit and 32 bit?
[02:44] <wineo> D:
[02:44] <Jay^> did, one addresses memory in chuncks of 32bits and the other 64.. :)
[02:44] <bobertdos> dido: In terms of what?
[02:44] <dyq> 我的UBUNTU8.04无法打开3D桌面
[02:44] <rjwoestm> what program can i use to connect via secure shell to my computer science lab ?
[02:45] <jrib> hipertracker: because debian builds with the SECUREPATH option (see man sudo)
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> dido: other than the memory issue.. not really.. i found 64bit to big of a pain w/ some hardware drivers i need... so i stuck w/ 32bit.
[02:45] <bazhang> dyq, /join #ubuntu-cn
[02:45] <bazhang> dyq, english here
[02:45] <dyq> 显卡驱动装了不正常
[02:45] <Jay^> rjwoestn, putty ?
[02:45] <dyq> 哦，
[02:45] <Flannel> !cn | dyq
[02:45] <dyq> 不好意思
[02:45] <bazhang> np
[02:45] <dido> boberdos ;in terms of application:
[02:45] <rjwoestm> Jay^, looking
[02:45] <Loganhoup> Has anyone had problems seeing multipe installations of ubuntu in their Grub, say about 8. All of the same thing?
[02:45] <Winston_SmithVT> !cn
[02:46] <JayTeKay> gna, damn highlight :)
[02:46] <Flannel> Loganhoup: Are you sure they're all identical?  Pastebin your menu.lst and we'll take a look
[02:46] <Loganhoup> sure
[02:46] <Loganhoup> where is it's location?
[02:46] <Flannel> Loganhoup: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:46] <bazhang> paste.ubuntu.com Loganhoup
[02:46] <Loganhoup> I know
[02:46] <Kevin_> hi all, I'm looking to be able to VNC into a headless server and login using KDM. I've tried the methods mentioned in many guides and nothing has worked. My server's running 8.04 and I'm using a mac to access it.
[02:47] <Loganhoup> hold on a sec
[02:47] <bobertdos> dido: Well, in terms of what it will run, there's some difference. In terms of what's available, not a whole lot of difference. As was previously mentioned, hardware (and sometimes plugin) compatibility tends to be the biggest thing.
[02:47] <rjwoestm> Jay^, will this allow me to transfer a source file to the desktop and compile it using a program on the remote host?
[02:47] <bringatowel> Kevin_, which step isn't working?
[02:47] <Falling-Inferno> Hi, I this is not really a Ubuntu help question. It is more like a related question I was wondering how do I get Banshee on Windows Xp Service Pack 2
[02:47] <Jay^> rjwoestm: yes
[02:48] <jrib> Falling-Inferno: ##windows for windows support
[02:48] <bazhang> Falling-Inferno, #ubuntu-offtopic or ##windows
[02:48] <Jay^> Kevin_: user tightVNC viewer, i think u can get it for the mac
[02:48] <hotmonkeyluv> how can I change the default windowmanager to emerald instead of metacity?
[02:48] <Loganhoup> flannel:http://paste.ubuntu.com/46755/
[02:48] <Jay^> just change your startup script to start it instead of gdm
[02:48] <bazhang> hotmonkeyluv, alt f2 emerald --replace
[02:48] <Kevin_> Well I get through all of the steps listed. That is installing the vnc packages and xinetd, setting up the config files, etc. Once I try to use my vnc client I am immediately disconnected.
[02:48] <rjwoestm> Jay^, should i install the putty-tools package also?
[02:49]  * flyback bbl
[02:49] <Flannel> Loganhoup: you'll notice those are 5 different kernel versions (14, 16, 17, 18, 19)
[02:49] <Loganhoup> yes? lamen terms please
[02:49] <hotmonkeyluv> bazhang, when I do that, nothing happens
[02:49] <Flannel> Loganhoup: You know what the linux kernel is?
[02:49] <hotmonkeyluv> Jay^, where is this startup script you mention?
[02:49] <bazhang> hotmonkeyluv, then install some themes in the manager (are you in compiz?)
[02:49] <Loganhoup> not really, I can't recall a command to get it
[02:50] <Flannel> Loganhoup: the kernel is what does all the... heavy lifting of an OS
[02:50] <Jay^> rjwoestm: putty on it's own should be sufficient for normal SSH operation
[02:50] <hotmonkeyluv> bazhang, I'm not able to use compiz with metacity, so I'm trying emerald
[02:50] <Kevin_> I've tried setting up a tunnel through ssh and when I run the vnc client I see something like the following: "connection 3: open failed: <some word> failed: connection refused"
[02:50] <Loganhoup> I know what the kernel is
[02:50] <dido> what is new latest news about Ubuntu,
[02:50] <Flannel> Loganhoup: Anyway, it's been updated since you first installed.  And the old versions stick around, and are able to be booted to.
[02:50] <Loganhoup> oh, ok
[02:50] <bazhang> dido, this is not the chat channel; see #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:51] <Flannel> Loganhoup: You pick one version to boot to at boot, the reason theres 10 instead of 5, is each one has a recovery console option
[02:51] <Loganhoup> so it's not technically a bad thing
[02:51] <rjwoestm> Jay^, putty-tools was auto-selected by synaptic when i clicked to install putty hahah
[02:51] <Jay^> hotmonkeyluv: the script where when you login it starts /bin/bash and writes a welcome message. can someone confirm where this is, as i'm not on a unix system atm
[02:51] <bringatowel> !who | Kevin21
[02:51] <Kevin_> bringatowel, sorry I forgot to address my responses to you
[02:51] <Flannel> Loganhoup: to remove them, you can remove the packages through package management, and they'll go away.  Its a good idea to leave at least one known good old version, incase the new one has a bug.
[02:51] <bazhang> hotmonkeyluv, you dont use compiz with metacity
[02:51] <Kevin21> hey, why is it that even though I updated my Alsa drivers, lib and utils, when i search alsa in my synaptics manager, it still shows the old version?
[02:52] <Loganhoup> ok, thank you for your help.
[02:52] <hotmonkeyluv> bazhang, yeah, i've noticed... lol
[02:52] <bazhang> heh
[02:52] <Fenrir> .
[02:52] <Jay^> bazhang: he is trying to load compiz INSTEAD of metacity but keep gnome
[02:52] <bringatowel> Kevin_, what is the exact command you are using for the tunnel?
[02:52] <halycon> Can anybody tell me what the menu launcher settings are for Thunderbird in gnome? I have messed up my launcher and it keeps trying to launch it and then it cannot
[02:52] <bazhang> Jay^, that does not make sense
[02:52] <Kevin21> what tunnel
[02:53] <BIG8> Has anyone had any luck converting videos for the xbox 360 ?
[02:53] <bringatowel> Kevin21, sorry that was meant for Kevin_
[02:53] <Jay^> halycon: alt+f2 then start typing thun, see if it fills it out for you
[02:53] <Kevin21> oh n/w
[02:53] <halycon> Jay^: It does complete it but there was some argument that it has in the default menu item
[02:53] <Kevin_> bringatowel, I am usingt  ssh -L 5901:<IP_ADDRESS>:5901<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:54] <dido> what is the topic of today?
[02:54] <halycon> I was messing around with alltray trying to get it to autodock it to the notification area
[02:54] <hotmonkeyluv> Jay^, bazhang: i'm gonna try to reboot, sometimes that helps. Of course, sometimes it sucks
[02:54] <halycon> and I wrecked it
[02:54] <bazhang> dido, this is ubuntu support.
[02:54] <bazhang> dido, go to #ubuntu-offtopic for chat.
[02:54] <bobertdos> halycon: I think it passes an usigned integer (%u) by default.
[02:54] <Jay^> bazhang: can you explain what doesn't make sense? i can't remember what the display manager for compiz is called so i just refered to it as compiz, does it make sense what i'm saying now ?
[02:55] <gaintsura> is there a way to find out what bluetooth card was built into my laptop?
[02:55] <halycon> ok great
[02:55] <halycon> it is back
[02:55] <bringatowel> Kevin_, im not sure, but i think you want to use "ssh -N -p 22<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-L 5901/localhost/5901"
[02:55] <bringatowel> Kevin_, then point VNC to localhost:1
[02:56] <Kevin_> bringatowel, I will give that a shot
[02:56] <Kevin21> Could someone tell me what i should type in to check my alsa base version in command line?
[02:56] <Kevin21> please
[02:56] <starn> when useing padsp teamspeak when i talk it echos badly.. with no one keyed in. only echo's to them but if i run teamspeak normally it works fine. but no other app had sound is there a fix for this?
[02:57] <Denestria> Kevin21:dpkg -l alsa-base
[02:57] <Kevin21> i love you
[02:57] <Kevin_> bringatowel, I'm going to go through the configuration steps from top to bottom and then try what you suggested. Thank you.
[02:57] <phirestalker> is there a way to find out when it is planned to recompile the kernel and upload a new package since gcc version was updated?
[02:57] <basti> apt-cache show alsa-base does the trick. also
[02:57] <phirestalker> I can't compile any kernel modules :(
[02:58] <Jay^> phirestalker, the easiest way is to use apt-get install dist-upgrade
[02:58] <bringatowel> Kevin_, no prob, it shouldn't be that hard, pretty much just install vnc4server (or tightvncserver) on the remote machine, start it from an ssh shell, make the tunnel, then connect with the client :)
[02:58] <Kevin21> wait, no i don't pkg isnt a recognized command
[02:58] <Jay^>  phirestalker: trutht be told, i've only done it that way
[02:58] <Jay^> dpkg*
[02:58] <bazhang> Jay^, that is not correct.
[02:58] <Kevin_> bringatowel, will do
[02:58] <Kevin21> ah thanks
[02:58] <phirestalker> Jay^, wouldn't it come through on update manager?
[02:59] <bazhang> Jay^, dist-upgrade is not an installable package
[02:59] <starn> anybody know why when using padsp teamspeak when i talk it echo's badly.. with no one keyed in. only echo's to them but if i run teamspeak normally it works fine. but no other app had sound is there a fix for this?
[02:59] <Jay^> phirestalker,bazhang: i don't know, is it apt-get dist-upgrade on it's own ?
[03:00] <bazhang> Jay^, if you dont know then dont advise
[03:00] <Jay^> ok
[03:00] <`Matir> Is there a good multi-user oriented photo manager/organizer?
[03:00] <hwilde> !upgrade > Jay^
[03:00] <hotmonkeyluv> bazhang, Jay^ restarting didn't fix anything, and i'm unable to start emerald. I can start metacity though
[03:00] <hwilde> `Matir, picasa is pretty poular
[03:01] <bazhang> hotmonkeyluv, make sure all the emerald packages are installed
[03:01] <Jay^> yanks
[03:01] <`Matir> hwilde, I shoulda been more specific... something that would handle a network share with multiple users accessing it.... picasa stores tags, etc. locally
[03:01] <hotmonkeyluv> bazhang, I installed it through synaptic, so they should all be there
[03:01] <tugrul_> # iwlist wlan0 scan
[03:01] <tugrul_> wlan0     No scan results
[03:02] <bringatowel> `Matir, you might try a web-based option like gallery or drupal
[03:02] <tugrul_> does it means ubuntu recognized my card?
[03:02] <bazhang> hotmonkeyluv, and compiz is running?
[03:02] <bazhang> tugrul_, no
[03:02] <hwilde> `Matir, you could do the samba share to share the files and F-Spot for management https://help.ubuntu.com/community/F-SpotHowto
[03:02] <bazhang> tugrul_, where did you get that kernel
[03:02] <hotmonkeyluv> bazhang, yeah
[03:02] <tugrul_> from official repo
[03:03] <tugrul_>  hardy main universe multiverse restricted
[03:03] <bazhang> tugrul_, proposed?
[03:03] <dante123> !tvout
[03:03] <tugrul_> i just updated my system after clean install
[03:04] <tugrul_> nothing special
[03:04] <tugrul_> its 2.6.24-19-generic
[03:04] <bazhang> tugrul_, please pastebin your sources.list to paste.ubuntu.com
[03:04] <euzao> which the name of a non-official website with .deb packages?
[03:04] <bazhang> tugrul_, you said it was 24 earlier not 19
[03:04] <rjwoestm> Jay^, i connected but i just get a terminal .. how do i connect graphically, like if i am sitting at the workstation? can putty do that too?
[03:05] <Kevin21> why is it that after updating drivers, utils, and lib files to 1.0.18rc3 my alsa-base file still says 1.0.16??????
[03:05] <hwilde> eubey_, getdeb.net ?
[03:05] <tugrul_> bazhang, http://rafb.net/p/8zTRxn52.html
[03:05] <euzao> yes
[03:05] <Jay^> rkwoestm: i think there is a way of forwarding X. are you on windows ?
[03:05] <euzao> thanks!
[03:05] <eubey_> hwilde, ?????
[03:05] <hwilde> Kevin21, what version do you think you should have
[03:05] <rjwoestm> Jay^, Ubuntu Hardy
[03:05] <hwilde> eubey_, sry tab complete
[03:05] <eubey_> haha
[03:05] <hotmonkeyluv> bazhang, I have no window title bars, can't resize, and can't move windows, but the cube thing works, as do window previews.
[03:05] <eubey_> no biggy
[03:05] <Kevin21> hwilde, i though alsa-base should be 1.0.18rc3?
[03:05] <bazhang> tugrul_, where is the rest of it
[03:06] <gaintsura> lsmod | grep blue lets out bluetooth 61156 4 rfcomm,l2cap however dmesg | grep blue does not turn anything up, I'm thinking bluetooth is not loaded. anyone have any ideas?
[03:06] <Jay^> rjwoestm: unforteuntely i've only done it with a windows program called hummingbird. it can also be done with cygwin i believe
[03:06] <tugrul_> i deleted comment lines
[03:06] <bazhang> hotmonkeyluv, in ccsm enable move windows plugin
[03:06] <pr3vi0uz> how many people  play world of warcraft  on Ubuntu?
[03:06] <bazhang> pr3vi0uz, that is offtopic here
[03:06] <tugrul_> im playing it on debian
[03:07] <hwilde> !info alsa-base hardy | Kevin21
[03:07] <hwilde> !info alsa-base intrepid | Kevin21
[03:07] <hwilde> Kevin21, intrepid is only up to base 1.0.17.  I think it's just the driver 18rc3
[03:08] <rjwoestm> Jay^, I can't even figure out how to transfer a file from my machine to the one i am connected to
[03:08] <hotmonkeyluv> bazhang, ok, I can now move my windows, and they are wobbly.
[03:08] <Jay^> !upgarde > fionnz
[03:08] <Jay^> !upgrade > fionnz
[03:08] <xiambax> anyone know about graphics acceleration in vmware fusion?
[03:08] <tugrul_> bazhang, anything?
[03:08] <bazhang> xiambax, that is a MAC program so no.
[03:09] <xiambax> i need to install the drive on the linux side. smart ass
[03:09] <Kevin21> hwilde, icic - thankyou, trying to problem solve my sound card, eliminated one of the possible problems
[03:09] <bazhang> !who | xiambax
[03:09] <hwilde> Kevin21, try pulse then
[03:09] <xiambax> bazhang
[03:09] <bazhang> xiambax, yes?
[03:09] <xiambax> it was directed at you :P
[03:09] <Kevin21> hwilde, i might, how do i make it primary?
[03:10] <droopsta915> what is the super botton on the keyboard?
[03:10] <xiambax> the apple key :D
[03:10] <bazhang> windows key droopsta915
[03:10] <Jay^> the windows key!
[03:10] <rjwoestm> Jay^, there is a little check-box (unchecked) that says "Enable X11 forwarding" // below that it has a field and asks "X display location"
[03:10] <gaintsura> win key lol
[03:10] <gaintsura> I want to replace my 'super key' with the any button
[03:10] <xiambax> i think the apple key is more super then the windows key if you ask me
[03:11] <Jay^> yeh thats right, and then you have 2 install something like hummingbird
[03:11] <hwilde> !pulse > Kevin21
[03:11] <Kevin21> thanks
[03:11] <hotmonkeyluv> gaintsura, that'd be cool
[03:11] <hotmonkeyluv> lol
[03:12] <gaintsura> hotmonkeyluv: there is a key replacement for them.. just have to find it.. Barnes and Noble has them, for actual keyboards, but not for laptops... yet
[03:12] <hotmonkeyluv> ha! I want!
[03:12] <dante123> how to backup xorg.conf before i make changes.....is there a command for this from terminal?
[03:13] <basti> copy it somewhere?!
[03:13] <gaintsura> dante123: cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak
[03:13] <hwilde> dante123, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.before-i-messed-it-up
[03:13] <hotmonkeyluv> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup
[03:13] <gaintsura> lolllolol
[03:13] <lacy> lol
[03:13] <hotmonkeyluv> I like mine better
[03:13] <Jay^> do u want that confirmed dante ? lol
[03:13] <gaintsura> hah
[03:14] <bazhang> !ot
[03:14] <gaintsura> ...
[03:14] <bazhang> take the chat elsewhere please
[03:14] <daedric> hey guys!!
[03:14] <Jay^> goodbye
[03:14] <gaintsura> what chat elsewhere?
[03:14] <daedric> which package provides rndc ??
[03:14]  * gaintsura is lost
[03:14] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic gaintsura
[03:14] <gaintsura> nvm
[03:17] <robson> is that irc?
[03:17] <Kevin_> bringatowel, hopefully you are still out there, I retried everything and still get the same error. I have also tried using tightvnc from my Mac to connect but I still get the connection refused error. I'm wondering if perhaps the vnc server program isn't starting kdm. What do you think?
[03:17] <Holydiver> robson, no this is MSN
[03:17] <gaintsura> is what irc?
[03:17] <bazhang> robson, yes; Ubuntu support channel.
[03:18] <bazhang> robson, for Brasil /join #ubuntu-br
[03:19] <dante123> thanks hwilde
[03:21] <SherlawkDragon> hey, what is npviewer.bin?
[03:22] <silk_> hello is all the cool graphic stuff build-it hardy?
[03:22] <Starnestommy> SherlawkDragon: I think it is flash
[03:22] <SherlawkDragon> it keeps opening itself and using 90% of the CPU
[03:23] <jrib> SherlawkDragon: it's the wrapper for using 32bit flash on a 64bit system
[03:23] <silk_> hello is all the cool graphic stuff build-it hardy?
[03:23] <SherlawkDragon> and I can't seem to close it any way but going into terminal and killing it
[03:23] <SherlawkDragon> well, it sucks.
[03:23] <SherlawkDragon> it uses 90% of the CPU
[03:23] <SherlawkDragon> and I think that sucks.
[03:23] <jrib> silk_: preferences -> appearance -> effects
[03:24] <bobertdos> SherlawkDragon: You might be able t o cut down on that.
[03:24] <silk_> jrib: im just asking if its built-in on hardy because im updating to it atm
[03:24] <silk_> from dappy
[03:24] <jrib> silk_: it's included by default if it detects that your hardware can handle it
[03:24] <hwilde> SherlawkDragon, did you look into this at all?  there is a whole forum thread  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=647961
[03:24] <silk_> jrib, great, thanks alot
[03:24] <Timberwolf5578> Anyone wanna see a pic of my desktop theme?
[03:24] <SherlawkDragon> nope, just wanted to know what it was I kept killing.
[03:25] <SherlawkDragon> hmm...
[03:26] <SherlawkDragon> I wasn't using any flash though
[03:26] <SherlawkDragon> I didn't think
[03:26] <Timberwolf5578> Here's a pic of my desktop theme, tell me what you think:  http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3093/2854110504_1e260e4c5c_o.jpg
[03:26] <bazhang> Timberwolf5578, that should be posted in #ubuntu-offtopic not here.
[03:27] <bringatowel> Kevin_, that is possible, but it would probably result in a different problem (you would connect and only see a simple black and white sort of desktop)
[03:27] <bringatowel> Kevin_, are you sure the server is starting up properly? when you run vnc4server on the remote machine, are there any errors?
[03:28] <enos> I'm trying to setup my pc to work with UltraMixer but when I play a file I don't get any sound; According the preferences it shows its using OSS (I know that mplayer uses "pulse" and I think so does everything else in my system) so how do I get Pulse to work with Ultramixer? Any clues, ideas, are highly appreciated, thanks!
[03:28] <wineo> is there a way to boot to a regular command line from the live CD?
[03:28] <Kevin_> bringatowel, ... *bangs head on wall* I feel like the biggest dunce of the century... Of course vnc4server won't just run on its own... >.< I have to set up vnc4server to run >.< *embarassed*
[03:29] <silk_> hey i got some errors and "Fails" while updating from dapper to hardy, is there anything to be worried about before i reboot?
[03:29] <Kevin_> bringatowel, oops wrong emoticon
[03:29] <Flannel> wineo: ctrl-alt-f1
[03:29] <danbh_intrepid> silk_: try running sudo apt-get install -f
[03:30] <wineo> Flannel: from the boot menu thing right?
[03:30] <Flannel> wineo: After you've chosen to boot the liveCD
[03:30] <Flannel> wineo: You can't just boot to a CLI
[03:30] <bringatowel> Kevin_, haha well, good then that is easy to fix ^_^
[03:30] <dstrbdfr1> can i get some help with changing the theme of pidgin i got a tar file off of gnomelook.org but i dont know what to do with it
[03:30] <wineo> thanks
[03:31] <hwilde> dstrbdfr1, go into pidgin tools and load the theme
[03:31] <dstrbdfr1> hwilde i dont see that option
[03:31] <Kevin_> bringatowel, I thought that it would be started by xinetd whenever I connected to my server on a certain port... obviously that was wrong... I think I know what info I'm missing now... To Google!
[03:32] <wineo> Flannel: whats the reverse of ctrl alt f1?
[03:32] <Flannel> wineo: ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to the GUI
[03:33] <wineo> Flannel: thank you
[03:33] <bringatowel> Kevin_, sounds good, it would be nice but im not sure how to arrange that, usually just SSH into the remote machine and start it manually with the vnc4server comman, plus -geometry or whatever other options are needed :)
[03:34] <gaintsura> where would I find what bluetooth device I have in my system? lspci is not showing it
[03:34] <dstrbdfr1> hwilde can you clarify load the theme i dont see that option under tools
[03:34] <Kevin_> bringatowel, ok a perl script can do all that for me :D
[03:34] <hwilde> dstrbdfr1, tools preferences themes add
[03:35] <Winston_SmithVT> Can anyone point me in the direction of some information on setting up and securing SSH?
[03:35] <Kevin_> bringatowel, oh sorry one more thing I wasn't clear on, from the guide I'm using (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402) there is no indication as to whether or not kdm itself has to be started before I use vnc. What do you think?
[03:35] <jrib> !ssh > Winston_SmithVT
[03:35] <bringatowel> Kevin_, yes indeed, usually not many options are needed, i only use -geometry in case im connecting from my laptop (1024x768) or desktop (128x768)
[03:36] <bringatowel> Kevin_, my understanding is that you need to start KDM from ~/.vnc/xstartup
[03:36] <sergio> #ubuntu-br
[03:36] <Kevin_> bringatowel, ... ok i see thanks :)
[03:36] <dstrbdfr1> hwilde the only option i have to add a theme is smiley theme and it doesnt wok
[03:38] <droopsta915> if anyone uses compiz, why isnt my cube 3d? it rotates but its 2d.
[03:38] <fxd> Hi, I'm running Gutsy and when I check the boot menu at startup there are two versions of ubuntu to load. how can i get rid of the newer otption and only load the original?
[03:39] <bobertdos> droopsta915: You must set your desktop to use at least four virtual horizontal desktops.
[03:39] <bringatowel> Kevin_, hmm that is not exactly what i did to configure vnc, but you know there are more than 1 way to do it, in xfce for example you can just add "startxfce4 &" to the end of ~/.vnc/xstartup
[03:39] <amenado> fxd-> modify /boot/grub/menu.lst to remove the unwanted option
[03:40] <Kevin_> bringatowel, working on it now :D
[03:41] <Phase> Is there a key combination to do "Lock Screen"?
[03:41] <bobertdos> Phase: That is one you have to manually set in System->Preferences-> Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:42] <Flannel> Phase: ctrl-alt-L by default I believe.
[03:42] <bobertdos> maybe not :p
[03:42] <sergio> quit
[03:42] <Phase> haha nice
[03:42] <Phase> thanks :)
[03:43] <renato_skin> Boa noite a todos
[03:43] <ruderalis> hi
[03:43] <jonathan_> hol
[03:44] <ruderalis> i want to know wich is the command that displays my os information
[03:44] <renato_skin> putz alguem ai fala portugues ????
[03:44] <Kevin_> bringatowel, I have something listening on the correct port but when I try to connect I get disconnected. I just thought to check /var/log/syslog and I've isolated a set of error messages that occur when I try to connect through the tunnel I set up.
[03:44] <robdig> !pt | ruderalis
[03:44] <Holydiver> is ubottu a multilingual bot :O
[03:44] <bringatowel> ruderalis, "uname -r"?
[03:44] <HymnToLife> no
[03:45] <HymnToLife> it only speaks UTF-8
[03:45] <Kevin_> lol
[03:45] <Phase> Woo there we go. psx style computer controller setup to lock screen on L1+L2+SELECT
[03:45] <bobertdos> Holydiver: Nah, just programmed in multilingual prompts to other channels.
[03:45] <Holydiver> ookey :D
[03:45] <Flannel> ruderalis: If not uname, then lsb_release -a
[03:45] <bringatowel> Kevin_, did vnc4server start up okay? what were the errors
[03:46] <Razer> I'm having a problem, with a portable media device, if I close the folder that opens up under media for it it disappears
[03:46] <bringatowel> Flannel, ahh that was the other one i was trying to remember :D
[03:46] <yabuk> Flannel: dpkg -L mozilla-thunderbird | grep bin , por qeu um comado para um leitor de e-mail?
[03:46] <Flannel> yabuk: Eh?
[03:46] <yabuk> ops, soory
[03:46] <Kevin_> bringatowel, it's not vnc4server its Xinetd. It says that it "can't get client address: Transport endpoint is not connected" maybe vnc4server still isn't running
[03:47] <basti> !udev | Razer
[03:47] <renato_skin> wow o povo aki fala portugues que firmeza
[03:47] <yabuk> why a command to one e-mail reader?
[03:47] <bringatowel> Kevin_, sorry idk anything about Xinetd :/
[03:47] <Razer> basti, excuse me? what would that do?
[03:47] <Kevin_> bringatowel, oh well
[03:47] <bringatowel> !pt | renato_skin
[03:47] <basti> Razer, mount it
[03:47] <Razer> basti, how?
[03:47] <renato_skin> hey alguem aqui pode me ajudar a configurar um dominio em samba ????
[03:48] <Flannel> yabuk: Oh, sorry.  that should just be thunderbird.  m-t is a transitional package.  But, dpkg -L thunderbird | grep bin will give you a short list of binary files it installed.  It appears in this case that it's `thunderbird`
[03:48] <Flannel> !es | renato_skin
[03:48] <bringatowel> Kevin_, maybe try starting the server manually? then you can confirm that the server & tunnel are working
[03:48] <basti> Razer, search for udev rules
[03:48] <yabuk> Flannel: why a command to e-mail reader? (mozilla-thunderbird)
[03:48] <T3> hello, whats the best alternative to skype on ubuntu
[03:48] <Razer> basti, where?
[03:48] <basti> google?
[03:48] <amenado> T3 dial-pad now owned by google and renamed.
[03:48] <bringatowel> Flannel, i think that is portuguese, not spanish
[03:48] <Flannel> yabuk: You asked ... hmm, ok, someone else asked what the binary was.
[03:49] <Denestria> @T3 Why alternative?  You can use Skype.
[03:49] <manoj_> hi
[03:49] <Falcons_roost> hello
[03:49] <manoj_> hi 4 gals
[03:49] <amenado> T3 for sms, look into chikka dot com
[03:50] <vocx> !skype | T3
[03:50] <T3> Denestria: i can't install skype on linux OS without wine
[03:50] <Denestria> @T3 You can download Skype for linux right on their website.
[03:51] <Joeseph> does anyone know why in Rythmbox, it can't load files from an smb windows share file with an IP address, but can if the pc's name is used?
[03:51] <dashnu> whats the best GUI for ssh and scp ? for clicking and dragging files to my remote servers?
[03:52] <T3> Denestria: what do you think about Ekiga is that better than Skype
[03:52] <dashnu> T3 I like ekiga
[03:52] <vocx> Joeseph, nope. But sounds like a good question to ask the developers, or maybe in the launchpad page
[03:52] <basti> Joeseph, just mount the smb share
[03:53] <hecate> dashnu try filezilla
[03:53] <yabuk> Flannel: I'm trying to format one hd of one notebook by using a pc-pc cable (lan) without use a live cd on notebook, and how do this is my question.
[03:53] <dashnu> thanks hecate any other recs?
[03:53] <Denestria> @T3 I haven't used it, have KDE not Gnome.
[03:53] <basti> hecate, filezilla is ftp
[03:53] <Joeseph> basti: I have them bookmarked. I don't really know if that mounts them or not.
[03:53] <hecate> basti no u are wrong it works for scp too
[03:53] <yters> Hi, I have recently installed hardy heron on an hp nc6400 laptop, and it has been having trouble with freezes.  I haven't identified a clear pattern, but they seem to happen after I resume from hibernation.  I've looked through the laptop & hardware ubuntu help forum, and haven't found this problem.
[03:53] <basti> Joeseph, no it doesnt. add them to fstab
[03:53] <T3> dashnu: whay is Ekiga better than skype
[03:54] <bringatowel> Joeseph, that is an interesting issue, one workaround would be to use smbfs (install pyneighborhood for a nice gui)
[03:54] <dashnu> hecate: does it support keys?
[03:54] <hecate> dashnu sure
[03:54] <dashnu> T3 cause its built for gnome :p
[03:54] <Joeseph> !fstab
[03:55] <renato_skin_matr> alguem fala portugues ????
[03:55] <bringatowel> !pt | renato_skin_matr
[03:56] <vocx> yters, it's no secret that laptops always have issues with freezing and hibernation. There is no definitive solution.
[03:56] <dashnu> anyway to link up nautilus to ssh... that would be slick
[03:56] <dashnu> oh looks like you can :p
[03:57] <ChichoJack> samobody help me with wine and Garena
[03:57] <vocx> dashnu, I'm under the impression that it's already possible, ssh, ftp, everything
[03:57] <Gun_Smoke> nina, Hi
[03:57] <Joeseph> basti: do you have an example fstab with samba folders set up on it for me to copy? I'm googling it now too.
[03:57] <ilovelinux33467> i cant ping a windows domain controller - help anyone?
[03:58] <ilovelinux33467> im using ubuntu 8.03
[03:58] <ilovelinux33467> sorry i mean 8.04
[03:58] <vocx> ilovelinux33467, good luck with that version
[03:58] <ChichoJack> neeeed help
[03:58] <bringatowel> !ask | ChichoJack
[03:59] <basti> Joeseph, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[03:59] <dashnu> vocx: works like a charm
[04:00] <vocx> dashnu, yes, that's what I tell you. The gnome people have integrated everything into the file manager nautilus.
[04:00] <abstortedminds> whats the best backup tool to backup my my ssystem
[04:00] <wineo> im having trouble with the recovering grub from windows guide
[04:00] <yters> vocx, would you recommend not using hibernate on a laptop, or is the freezing problem something that can usually be fixed relatively easily?
[04:00] <wineo> i did everything it said, and when i select windows, it wont boot too it.
[04:01] <ilovelinux33467> i am trying to use sadms and likewise open to join a domain but it doesnt work
[04:01] <favro> wineo: any error?
[04:01] <wineo> no, just kinda flashes and nothing happens
[04:01] <favro> *error message?
[04:01] <Joeseph> basti: thanks.  working on ti now
[04:01] <dstrbdfr1> can someone tall me how to extract a file to /screenlets/Pidgin/themes
[04:01] <dstrbdfr1> tell**
[04:01] <wineo> well, i know that my linux is on hd0,0
[04:02] <robdig> ilovelinux33467: have you tried this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbind-SADMS
[04:02] <wineo> that means windows cant be there too correct? (dirves are partitioned
[04:02] <daedric> hey guys...
[04:02] <vocx> yters, the kernel and its modules should be responsible for suspend or hibernation, so it is fixed in the kernel you can do little about it. You may be able to get it work by getting source code and recompiling modules and following guides.
[04:02] <favro> wineo: can you paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst file?
[04:02] <daedric> how can i find out which package provides a given binary or script ????
[04:02] <favro> !paste
[04:02] <daedric> i can't find rndc-confgen
[04:02] <ilovelinux33467> robdig: thanks i'll have a look
[04:02] <abstortedminds> anyone know what a good backup utility is?
[04:02] <yters> ok, thanks vocx
[04:03] <Ashkore> heya
[04:03] <Ashkore> I have a Playstation 3 and I got both the Ubuntu desktop/server CD's via the mail how would I go about installing Ubuntu on it?
[04:03] <wineo> um, its on my laptop, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows the only thing i did to it was add the bit about windows from that page, right before the end