[16:29] <Hew> DJ|P3nd1nG: Wine discussion happens in #winehq , but you will find the info in AppDB useful: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2577
[16:29] <soundray> chase_: are you planning to reinstall Ubuntu?
[16:29] <chase_> soundray: ye
[16:29] <chase_> yes*
[16:29] <soundray> chase_: why?
[16:29] <legend2440> godzirra: its only when you minimizr firefox? no others do it?
[16:29] <fde> chase_: what doesn't you understand? I'm not sure what you might not have understood...
[16:29] <fde> don't*
[16:29] <godzirra> legend2440: Not that I've seen so far.
[16:29] <godzirra> legend2440: only firefox.
[16:30] <chase_> soundray: I have to set up a dual boot, It is recomended to put windows on as the full partition then make a separate partition for linux
[16:30] <bjb1959> nibsa1242b, just found out the basement machine won't work either
[16:30] <fde> chase_: you can just create a boot disk for Linux, and install GRUB back to the MBR
[16:30] <nibsa1242b> bjb1959: is the basement machine connected wirelessly or by wire?
[16:31] <godzirra> legend2440: Hrm...  in the Xorg.0.log, I get this: Fatal server error:Caught signal 11.  Server aborting.   THen on the next line (II) AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch.
[16:31] <Finnish> My virtual box is giving me troubles. When I try to run Kubuntu on it, it freezes, keyboard is not working and I have to start X again to get out of it. Any ideas?
[16:31] <fde> chase_: man grub-floppy
[16:31] <bjb1959> nibsa1242b, wireless
[16:31] <soundray> chase_: that's right. But you won't have to reinstall if you do it right. Have you got lots of free space in your Ubuntu partition?
[16:31] <nibsa1242b> bjb1959: is your machine that is connected by by wire working?
[16:31] <nemo> Liquid Rescale claims it was to be added to synaptic in Hardy. Yet, I can't find a gimp-liquid-rescale or anything similar.
[16:31] <nemo> I have multiverse enabled.
[16:31] <bjb1959> yes
[16:32] <fde> chase_: ahh, 'grub-mkrescue' sorry
[16:32] <chase_> soundray: yes, but I was going to use the tut that the bot linked me to, unless you want to help me with another way
[16:32] <nibsa1242b> bjb1959: and they are all running Ubuntu?
[16:32] <soundray> nemo: have a look at the gimp-plugin-registry package
[16:32] <bjb1959> yes
[16:32] <chase_> fde: I have only been using linux for 3 days, I dont know what a MBR is or some other stuff you said
[16:32] <fde> chase_: MBR isn't something Linux specific.
[16:33] <Spatie> hello everyone
[16:33] <nemo> soundray: ah. there's a meta package?
[16:33] <hwilde> any way to benchmark or speedtest the usb subsystem?
[16:33] <nemo> soundray: resynthesiser had its own package, so I thought that was standard
[16:33] <ckg> so many humans here :)
[16:33] <legend2440> godzirra: are you using Hardy   x64?
[16:33] <soundray> nemo: I don't know, it just comes up on 'apt-cache search liquid rescale'
[16:33] <chase_> fde: I still dont recognize that abbreviation
[16:33] <fde> chase_: master boot record... it is how PC's boot.
[16:33] <nemo> soundray: yep. that was it. thanks
[16:34] <nixnoob_> chase_: MBR = master boot record, a special place on the beginning of your harddisk that contanis information for booting each operating system.
[16:34] <chase_> fde: oh, I havent seen it abbreviated before
[16:34] <godzirra> legend2440: don't think so.  How do I check to be sure?
[16:34] <bjb1959> nibsa1242b, sorry tried to run router wizard again to see if that fixes anything
[16:34] <chase_> yes I know what it is, I didnt know the abbreviation
[16:34] <ckg> can anyone tell me why my xchart does not display the tail of every sentence
[16:34] <soundray> chase_: I understand you've put quite some time in your package selection and compiz configuration. Have you got lots of user data, too?
[16:34] <fde> chase_: on Windows, the 'format' command even takes /mbr as an option  :/
[16:35] <fde> chase_: has since MS-DOS 3 or something
[16:35] <bjb1959> nibsa1242b, didn't change anything
[16:35] <nibsa1242b> nibsa1242b: thats fine; I'm just thinking about where the problem would be...
[16:35] <ckg> for example ,if i say sentence ,but it displays senten
[16:35] <chase_> well can someone help me set up a partion that windows can use with hardy
[16:35] <nixnoob_> chase_: what do you mean windows can use with hardy?
[16:35] <nibsa1242b> bjb1959: is there anyway you can connect one of the problem machines via a cable and see if that would resolve the issue?
[16:35] <soundray> chase_: I'm trying to help you, am I not?
[16:36] <nemo> nixnoob_: yeah. no kidding given linux has pretty good support for NTFS these days
[16:36] <bjb1959> not close to a cable
[16:36] <nemo> despite having had to reverse engineer it
[16:36] <nixnoob_> nemo: its always the case better late then never
[16:36] <chase_> soundray: you are, sorry. how can I set up a FTS (I think its FTS) partition for windows, using hardy
[16:36] <nemo> nixnoob_: I tend to use C:\ as my windows partition for linux to access these days :)
[16:36] <legend2440> godzirra:  in terminal     dpkg  --print-architecture   what does it say?
[16:37] <anhdh> who is FloodBot1 and how can he be online all the day :))
[16:37] <nixnoob_> nemo: now you've lost me
[16:37] <godzirra> i386
[16:37] <godzirra> legend2440: i386
[16:37] <nibsa1242b> bjb1959: sry, got disconed for a second there, I might have missed your last message
[16:37] <nemo> nixnoob_: noting I don't see why he'd want a separate partition for both to share
[16:37] <Pici> anhdh: Its a program, not a person.
[16:37] <LSD|Ninja> anhdh: it's not that hard to be on irc all the time...
[16:37] <bjb1959> not close to a cable so can't wire the machine
[16:37] <soundray> chase_: I've asked you a question that was aimed at determining the best way to get you a dualboot system
[16:37] <soundray> chase_: I understand you've put quite some time in your package selection and compiz configuration. Have you got lots of user data, too?
[16:37] <nixnoob_> chase_: you cant setup NTFS partitions with hardy you have to use the windows disk
[16:38] <nemo> nixnoob_: heck. under linux I even have Firefox pointed to the profile under /media/Windows/Documents and Settings/nemo/ etc
[16:38] <nibsa1242b> bjb1959: ok...
[16:38] <chase_> soundray: yes, I would rather not have to lose any linux data
[16:38] <anhdh> LSD|Ninja, what is irc :(??
[16:38] <nixnoob_> nemo: i stopped using windows completely a year ago, I have an XP VM but i rarely ever use it.
[16:38] <chase_> soundray: I have both the ubuntu hardy and XP boot disk
[16:38] <soundray> chase_: okay, in that case, whichever way you go, make sure you backup your work first.
[16:38] <nibsa1242b> bjb1959: can you pastebin the results of an ifconfig for me?
[16:39] <LSD|Ninja> anhdh: <- ^ -> is all IRC
[16:39] <chase_> soundray: I have only been using linux for 3 days so I dont know how I would back up my data with linux
[16:39] <soundray> chase_: what do you get from 'df -h /'?
[16:39] <bjb1959> sure give me a couple minutes
[16:39] <soundray> chase_: I'm helping you with that, too
[16:40] <nixnoob_> soundray: what is he trying to do exactly?
[16:40] <hwilde> anybody ever use the usbmon module ?
[16:40] <bjb1959> nibsa1242b on the wired or wireless?
[16:40] <phantomas> how can i open an img file?
[16:40] <soundray> nixnoob_: he wants a dual boot XP/Ubuntu system, starting from a Ubuntu-only.
[16:40] <chase_> soundray: I got Filesystem size used avail use$ Mounted on
[16:40] <nibsa1242b> bjb1959: on the wireless (problem machine); but the wired might be nice to compare if its not too much trouble
[16:40] <fde> phantomas: mount -t raw -o loop the.img /somewhere
[16:40] <chase_> soundray: /dev/sdal 145G 3.6G 135G 3%
[16:41] <legend2440> godzirra: this may be somewhat similar to your problem<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:41] <nixnoob_> soundray: why doesnt he shrink his existing partition with gparted and install windose on the empty space and then reinstall grub?
[16:41] <anhdh> dual boot is easy install xP first and then ubuntu
[16:41] <chase_> soundray and the last one i forgot is /
[16:41] <ffm|sh> how do I start my own vpn on ubuntu?
[16:41] <bjb1959> problem is I can't pastebin on a machine that can't get to pastebin.ca
[16:41] <phantomas> fde: thank you!
[16:41] <fde> anhdh: It's easy the other way around too.
[16:41] <ompaul> !openvpn | ffm|sh
[16:41] <nibsa1242b> bjb1959: lol; true
[16:41] <soundray> nixnoob_: we might get to that, but he's put a lot of work into config and stuff, so the sensible first step is to have a backup.
[16:41] <godzirra> legend2440: thats -exactly- my problem.  But its not middle mouse button for me.
[16:41] <lufis> I've got a thumbdrive that isn't being recognized at all by hardy. Sometimes it will recognize it momentarily, but then instantaneously unmount it. Other usb devices work fine in the same ports, i.e., webcams, a usb audio device, etc. But thumdrives of any sort don't seem to be recognized (not even in lsusb) and if they are, they aren't automounting. These thumdrives work fine on my laptop, oddly enough, but on this desktop system it's a no go
[16:41] <godzirra> But the rest of iti is exactly the same
[16:41] <darwin_> just installed rosegarden 1.7.1 also jack and everything it asked me to, nevertheless, I can't hear a single note. any clue ubottu ?
[16:42] <ompaul> ffm|sh, use a program called openvpn the howto on the website is brilliant it just works (if you follow it exactly ;-))
[16:42] <legend2440> godzirra: you have ati card?
[16:42] <ffm|sh> ompaul: kk.
[16:42] <nixnoob_> soundray: copy his $HOME to DVD and let him be on his merry way, use dd to create an image...
[16:42] <soundray> chase_: okay, so you have 3.6GB of your 145 GB in use. Do you have an external hard disk drive?
[16:42] <godzirra> legend2440:  It is an ATI card.
[16:42] <nixnoob_> soundray: sorry if im being captain obvious
[16:42] <chase_> soundray: yes I do
[16:43] <soundray> nixnoob_: thanks -- I want to use a slightly different approach, and I know what to do.
[16:43]  * fde ponders why chase_ is worried about backing up 3 days worth of stuff... it'd take less time to just re-do it
[16:43] <chivas> hi
[16:43] <soundray> chase_: does it have ~3GB of free space?
[16:43] <chase_> fde: its because I am not linux savy and it would take me a long time to set it back up
[16:44] <chase_> soundray: yes
[16:44] <legend2440> godzirra: have you made any changes to xorg.conf  or tried new drivers lately? or maybe hardy did some update lately regarding xorg?
[16:44] <phantomas> fde i mounted to /mnt/sth
[16:44] <ompaul> !openvpn | ffm|sh
[16:44] <phantomas> and when i go there
[16:44] <soundray> chase_: here's my recommendation for backing up:
[16:44] <phantomas> its empty
[16:44] <nibsa1242b> bjb1959 I wish I could help more... but I'm not really sure where to go from here.
[16:44] <godzirra> legend2440: ITs my wife's laptop, she said she updated with whatever was in the update list.
[16:44] <godzirra> legend2440: so I'm not 100% positive.
[16:44] <ompaul> ffm|sh, you can install it with "sudo apt-get install openvpn" on both ends
[16:44] <nibsa1242b> bjb1959: I think what is going on is your wireless machines aren't accessing DNS properly, however, your wired machine is. I have no idea why.
[16:45] <fde> phantomas: how big was the initial .img file?
[16:45] <soundray> chase_: boot from a live CD and 'sudo apt-get install partimage'. Plugin the external HD and make sure you know where it's mounted.
[16:45] <bjb1959> nibsa1242b, I will pastebin now give me a minute
[16:45] <phantomas> about 4 MB
[16:45] <nibsa1242b> bjb1959: ok
[16:45] <chase_> what do you mean by know were it is mounted?
[16:45] <yao> 请问aMule下载为什么这么好断线。下载的速度这么小呀有时好长时间都为零
[16:45] <legend2440> godzirra: is compiz enabled?
[16:46] <godzirra> It is.
[16:46] <kenkku> !zh | yao
[16:46] <anhdh> chase_, why don't you use gparted to creat a new partion from old one???
[16:46] <godzirra> legend2440:  I'm not sure where its enabled or how to turn it off so its not loading by default.  I looked in sessions, but its not there as far as I can see.
[16:46] <soundray> chase_: something like /media/DISK probably. Run 'partimage' and create an image of your /dev/sda1 and write it to /media/DISK/sda1-partimage.img
[16:46] <legend2440> godzirra: if you disable compiz does it still crash?
[16:46] <chase_> anhdh: I dont know what gparted is, I am just going by what the ppl helping me are saying.
[16:46] <bjb1959> nibsa1242b,  here it is http://pastebin.ca/1092593
[16:46] <fde> phantomas: there should be files there, idk why theres not.
[16:46] <godzirra> legend2440: disabling compiz kills me gnome bars, so not sure. :) Since I can't minimize it after killing compiz.
[16:46] <yao> 就是在那里没找到答案
[16:46] <nibsa1242b> bjb1959: do you have a dns server listed in /etc/resolv.conf on the problem machine (you can just cat the file and let me know what is there)
[16:47] <bjb1959> yes om.cox.net
[16:47] <legend2440> godzirra: system>preferences>appearance>visual effects tab
[16:47] <kenkku> yao: this channel is english only
[16:47] <anhdh> chase_, gparted is just like partion magic
[16:47] <soundray> chase_: that'll take a few minutes, after which you will  have a full backup of your current system, just in case.
[16:47] <chase_> soundray: can i check were it is mounted to by pluging it in now?
[16:47] <yao> 中文的在哪里呀请问
[16:47] <phantomas> fde: ok anyway thank you
[16:48] <phildbole> is soundray still around
[16:48] <nibsa1242b> bjb1959: give me a min... comparing your ifconfig with one from one of my machines
[16:48] <kenkku> is there anyone who can tell that guy that this is english?
[16:48] <soundray> chase_: yes. Plug it in and run 'mount' in a terminal. The line containing /media/... is it
[16:48] <fde> kenkku: the bot already did, he's just ignoring it
[16:48] <soundray> phildbole: yes
[16:48] <kenkku> I guess. I'm not sure if that's chinese though
[16:48] <kenkku> could be japanese too, I guess
[16:49] <ompaul> !cn
[16:49] <phildbole> soundray in cdrm0 browser there is just the iso
[16:49] <legend2440> godzirra: in system>admin>hardware drivers is there a entry regarding  ATI and if so is the box checked?
[16:49] <db92> its chinese im almost certain, i almost recognize the symbols :p
[16:49] <newuser_> hello, I was asking for help yesterday on a problem while loading nautilus: There was a problem registering the panel with the bonobo-activation server. The error code is: 3 The panel will now exit. Anyone has a solution for this problem? Already tried to fix the date and time and restart gdm, but still got the problem
[16:49] <soundray> phildbole: what I suspected
[16:49] <fde> kenkku: some characters are exactly the same, so I'd guess he understood.
[16:49] <godzirra> legend2440: yes and yes.
[16:49] <soundray> phildbole: you have to create a CD from the iso, not just copy the ISO to a CD.
[16:49] <soundray> !burniso | phildbole
[16:50] <phildbole> soundray ahh so i need to go get nautilus and write to new cd
[16:50] <godzirra> legend2440: okay, when I Went into the preferences and chose "none" under visual effects, I can't seem to reproduce the error.
[16:50] <ninix> hi, if i got an ati 9200, it ati or radeaon i should use ?
[16:50] <soundray> phildbole: or right-click the iso on your desktop and select "Write image"
[16:50] <godzirra> legend2440: compiz decorator is still running though.
[16:50] <chase_> soundray: ok it is mounted on /media/FreeAgent Drive type fuseblk
[16:50] <soundray> phildbole: yes, you will need a new CD-R
[16:50] <bjb1959> nibsa1242b, I just figured it out. believe it or not all I had to do was add the <IP_ADDRESS> dns server back into my dns server list. duh....  Thanks for the help
[16:51] <phildbole> soundray - thanks i'll be back later...
[16:51] <soundray> chase_: okay, so you will know when you set up partimage where to write your disk image: /media/FreeAgent/sda1-partimage.img
[16:51] <godzirra> legend2440: I guess for now I'll just run without compiz. :)  Thank you for your help.
[16:51] <nixnoob_> anyone know of a good alternative to irssi or is irssi the best?
[16:52] <soundray> chase_: in principle, you could do this from where you are, but imaging a mounted partition is not quite as reliable, so I always boot from a live CD.
[16:52] <godzirra> "Best" is relative.
[16:52] <legend2440> godzirra: here is more info on the bug. but i don't see a definitive fix yet  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/241145
[16:52] <nixnoob_> godzirra: thank you webster :) do you have a suggestion?
[16:52] <nibsa1242b> bjb1959: is that working for you now?
[16:53] <chase_> soundray: ok so all that I have to do now is boot to my live cd then partimage to /media/FreeAgent/sdaL-partimage.img
[16:53] <bjb1959> yep, just had to add that line. somehow got removed, probably an update
[16:53] <chase_> right?
[16:53] <no1r> hello, i have a question can anyone help me?
[16:53] <chase_> sda1*
[16:53] <soundray> chase_: not L
[16:53] <nixnoob_> !metquestion | no1r
[16:53] <nixnoob_> !metaquestion | no1r
[16:53] <godzirra> nixnoob_: I like irssi :)
[16:53] <nibsa1242b> bjb1959: well I'm glad I could help :)
[16:53] <soundray> chase_: yes. partimage has a wizard interface, you will know what to do.
[16:54] <nixnoob_> godzirra: lol thanks a bunch
[16:54] <godzirra> I've tried a few of them, and its been my favorite for years.
[16:54] <chase_> soundray: how will I use the partimage when I get windows installed?
[16:54] <bjb1959> the community almost always helps... and it is much appreciated.
[16:54] <nixnoob_> any close runners up?
[16:54] <debCarlos> Does setting the APM with hdparm to 254 (With hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda) have any side effects ?
[16:54] <no1r> i just installed 8.04 on a Satalite laptop, and i cant get the ireless to work
[16:54] <godzirra> Not really.
[16:54] <godzirra> BitchX was okay.
[16:54] <soundray> chase_: not at all, ideally. It's just a safety net.
[16:54] <AngryElf> anyone know how to open Gnome-Do preferences?
[16:54] <godzirra> my wife digs x-chat but she's coming from mirc.
[16:54] <no1r> how do i keep get ubuntu to work with wireless?
[16:54] <nixnoob_> no1r: lspci
[16:54] <godzirra> and she's a mouse user.
[16:55] <godzirra> I tend to use mostly keyboard commands.
[16:55] <nixnoob_> no1r: do you know which wireless card you have?
[16:55] <chase_> soundray: ok so I get windows installed again, then how can I put all my data back on?
[16:55] <godzirra> alright, I'm off for lunch
[16:55] <godzirra> legend2440: thanks again :)
[16:55] <no1r> Atheros wireless card
[16:55] <legend2440> godzirra: your welcome
[16:55] <soundray> chase_: you could do that.
[16:55] <nixnoob_> !atheros
[16:55] <chase_> soundray: but how?
[16:56] <chase_> soundray: would I put in my live CD, boot from it, but what would I do from there?
[16:56] <soundray> chase_: but when you're in the live CD, you could try using gparted to move your partitions around a bit and make space for Windows.
[16:56] <chase_> soundray: ok I will try to do that
[16:56] <nixnoob_> no1r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:56] <soundray> chase_: that way, you preserve your Ubuntu installation and won't have to restore.
[16:56] <chase_> soundray: if it doesnt work I will be back soon
[16:57] <no1r> is there any other way nixnoob? i get the restricted drivers window, but i cant seem to find ndisgtk to bring windows drivers over
[16:57] <onats> does anyone know of a bit torrent client that is command-line based, but can be configured for http access?
[16:58] <energY> onats: rtorrent
[16:58] <zvacet> onats : try rtorrent
[16:58] <energY> onats: libtorrent
[16:58] <energY> rtorrent is the text based frontend
[16:58] <jeek> Why not just write a perl script to fetch the .torrent via http then start up a normal commandline client?
[16:59] <zvacet> energY : that is what he is asking for
[16:59] <bastid_raZor> why not have your torrent program monitor a directory and when a .torrent is put in there it starts the download.
[16:59] <onats> jeek, because i am not an expert in perl
[16:59] <energY> zvacet: rtorrent or libtorrent?
[16:59] <no1r> is there any other way nixnoob? i get the restricted drivers window, but i cant seem to find ndisgtk to bring windows drivers over
[16:59] <CMDL1N3> hi i keep getting /sbin/modprobe abnormal exit when i boot the install cd for 8.01
[16:59] <onats> energy and zvacet, i will look at rtorrent. thanks!
[17:00] <CMDL1N3> 8.04*
[17:00] <nixnoob_> no1r: is that what it says on the wiki? I'm pretty sure atheros has linux drivers....
[17:00] <zvacet>  energY :he is asking for command-line based rtorrent is that
[17:00] <greatdane77> Good Morning. What would be the best Firewall Software for Ubuntu?
[17:00] <jpds> !firewall > greatdane77
[17:01] <energY> zvacet: Isn't that libtorrent?
[17:01] <m1r> hello
[17:01] <CMDL1N3> i get the /sbin/modprobe error when i boot 8.04 install
[17:01] <zvacet>   onats :this can be helpful http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/howto-use-rtorrent-like-a-pro/
[17:02] <no1r> thats what it was saying in the offcial documentation
[17:02] <zvacet> greatdane77 : why do you need it
[17:03] <nixnoob_> no1r: do you have an interface called ath0 when you do ifconfig in console?
[17:04] <greatdane77> How do I access the Firewall that's built in with Ubuntu?
[17:04] <bazhang> iptables greatdane77
[17:04] <no1r> no nix i dont.
[17:04] <zvacet> greatdane77 : Ubuntu comes with ufw (uncomplicated firewall)
[17:04] <chase_> soundray: I am on my live CD and it says partimage inst installed, I try to install and it says you will have to enable the component called "universe"
[17:04] <no1r> just eth0 and lo
[17:05] <soundray> chase_: you can do that in System-Administration-Software Sources
[17:05] <nixnoob_> no1r: hmm, does it list your atheros card when you do lspci ? does it give you a model number?
[17:05] <greatdane77> So how do I access the settings?
[17:06] <no1r> yes at the very end. it says Ethernet controller
[17:06] <no1r> Atheros Communications AR242x
[17:06] <zvacet> greatdane77: man ufw
[17:06] <wols_> !madwifi
[17:06] <chase_> soundray: now it says invalid operation partimage
[17:07] <chase_> soundray: never mind i got it
[17:07] <harron> Can anyone direct me towards a place I can get help configuring a microwulf cluster?
[17:08] <bazhang> harron, what is that
[17:08] <zvacet> greatdane77 : and read http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ufw-uncomplicated-firewall-for-ubuntu-hardy.html
[17:08] <harron> a group of computers working together
[17:08] <no1r> yes at the very end. it says Ethernet controller Atheros Communications AR242x
[17:08] <omar_> Hello, I'm having a problem with downloading something via the terminal. I tried to use wget, easy_install and even curl and they all give the same error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/34086/ , Please help.
[17:08] <Zaoi> hi
[17:08] <Pinas_> hello
[17:08] <lakitu> hey - i am new to linux. i just tried installing Ubuntu 8 server on my computer - & it hung (black screen) when i tried to install it. i think the iso was fine... or is that the only problem it could be?
[17:08] <nixnoob_> no1r: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=863777
[17:09] <chase_> soundray: what image file to creat/use?
[17:09] <wols_> omar_: wget or curl definitely don't hand out a python trackback. please paste the wget command and its full output
[17:10] <soundray> chase_: I've told you all you need to know -- I won't tell you again. Happy to confirm your choices, though.
[17:10] <kenkku> lakitu: the server image does not include any graphical environment, please use the desktop version
[17:10] <wols_> bazhang: my guess: a small beowulf
[17:10] <Pinas_> i have a little problem too.  I simply press Play an it happens nothing
[17:10] <lakitu> kenkku: thanks. then what's the server for?
[17:10] <kenkku> lakitu: it's for.. well, servers :)
[17:10] <Pinas_> same with other players
[17:10] <kenkku> lakitu: there is usually no point in having a GUI in a server
[17:10] <wols_> lakitu: to install a, you know, serve
[17:10] <tgpraveen> best ide for ubuntu for c++
[17:10] <tgpraveen> ??
[17:11] <chase_> soundray: ...... is the image file to create/use the /media/FreeAgent/partimage-sda1.img?
[17:11] <wols_> tgpraveen: eclipse or kdevelop
[17:11] <ruzz311> I've had problems installing Ubuntu 8.04.1 (i386 desktop) as its on partition and it error'd.
[17:11] <no1r> nixnoob, ndisgtk doesnt even show up in synaptic package manager, how am i suppose to do that?
[17:11] <ruzz311> I have also tried on windows and am still getting errors.  anyone have experience with errors installing inside windows?
[17:11] <lakitu> kenkku: like, pardon my ignorance, really, but a http server? ftp?
[17:11] <bazhang> harron, you can /msg ubottu irc for a link to all freenode channels
[17:11] <bazhang> wols_, thanks
[17:11] <soundray> chase_: yes
[17:11] <nixnoob_> no1r: in terminal sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[17:11] <xnv> tgpraveen: Why do you need an IDE when you have vim?
[17:11] <lakitu> kenkku: other?
[17:11] <tgpraveen> is eclipse ok for a noob?
[17:11] <omar_> wols_: Okay, my problem is not about wget itself, it's about easy_install, it seems like it needs a module with the name "webob", which I have no clue where to get.
[17:11] <wols_> omar_: we don't either
[17:11] <harron> thanks
[17:11] <zetheroo> I want to put videos on my PDA but I want to first downsize them because they are about 700MB each
[17:12] <kenkku> lakitu: just a server generally. servers can run all kinds of stuff, like HTTP, FTP, SSH, IRC...
[17:12] <wols_> omar_: it's not in ubuntu
[17:12] <wols_> omar_: what software is this you try to install?
[17:12] <kenkku> lakitu: HTTP and FTP servers are programs that are installable on the operating system
[17:12] <xnv> Anyone know where I can find an explanation for the colors used by gnome-terminal, e.g. why something would be red when doing an ls?
[17:12] <zetheroo> what program can I use to do this?
[17:12] <jzsmith> Where can I locate linux/usb.h? Do I need to download a package to get it?
[17:12] <chazco> Hi... any tips on improving Hardys boot time so it can match XP on a laptop?
[17:12] <Pinas_> tgpraveen depends what you wanna do with eclipse
[17:12] <ruzz311> The last time I've tired to install ubuntu inside windows the error said "The download was interrupted with the following error" and then it did not give an error
[17:12] <omar_> wols_: A python module.
[17:12] <lakitu> kenkku: ok, & i think i want to run a http server. but i also want a graphical interface. is that possible?
[17:12] <ruzz311> but it seemed like it did it right after the checksum
[17:12] <nixnoob_> chazco: my hardy is much faster than xp and i havent done anything to it.
[17:12] <wols_> omar_: I KNOW it's a python module. more info needed
[17:13] <bazhang> chazco, this is for msi wind or other
[17:13] <danhs> I have a weird problem with my monitor hooked up to my laptop
[17:13] <xnv> lakitu: Yes, it is.
[17:13] <wols_> lakitu: yes
[17:13] <nixnoob_> chazco: you can try eliminating some unnecessary services.
[17:13] <chazco> bazhang - Msiwind and others
[17:13] <danhs> when I'm starting my computer the ubuntu logo and the progress bar appear on my external monitor
[17:13] <lakitu> ok - is it 'doable' for a beginning linux user?
[17:13] <lordleemo> omar_: http://ubuntu.interlegis.gov.br/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/python-webob/?C=S;O=A
[17:13] <kenkku> lakitu: yes, of course, all the packages are available for both the server and desktop versions. only difference is what's on the CD
[17:13] <chazco> I've already tried to fix the Hardy clocksource issue, but its still quite slow to boot
[17:13] <danhs> but sometimes, the monitor goes blank when I get to the login screen, and for my entire session
[17:13] <wols_> lakitu: yes. install a norma desktop ubuntu and then install apache2. instant webserver
[17:13] <danhs> laptop monitor is the only one working
[17:13] <lakitu> wols: great
[17:14] <danhs> seems strange to me that it'd work for boot up but not when I get to login screen
[17:14] <danhs> also works when I do shutdown and ubuntu logo and progress bar come back again
[17:14] <zetheroo> what app is good for resizing video?
[17:14] <lakitu> wols: so i don't need ubuntu server to run a http server?
[17:14] <wols_> no you don't
[17:14] <nixnoob_> zetheroo: avidemux
[17:14] <lakitu> ok
[17:14] <danhs> lakitu: sudo apt-get install apache2
[17:14] <lakitu> thank you, you three
[17:14] <lakitu> four ;)
[17:14] <G-Mod> danhs... try backing down your video resolution
[17:15] <fde> lakitu: you maybe would like to check out 'rapache' for an easy way to setup and configure apache also...
[17:15] <zetheroo> nixnoob: can I use it to resize the actual size of the video picture as well as the size of the file?
[17:15] <Pinas_> somone any idea whats wrong with my computer ??
[17:15] <kenkku> lakitu: the server cd just has different packages. you can download them all from the internet
[17:15] <danhs> G-Mod: what do you mean, "backing down"
[17:15] <nixnoob_> zetheroo: yes
[17:16] <soundray> Pinas_: the problem sits at the keyboard. Safe diagnosis in the majority of cases ;)
[17:16] <bazhang> Pinas_, what is bunjee
[17:16] <danhs> G-Mod: do you mean System --> Preferences --> Screen resolution ?
[17:16] <Pinas_> oh Banshee
[17:16] <danhs> When I play with that, and then do a shutdown, restart it seems to sometimes fix it, but sometimes not
[17:16] <omar_> lordleemo: Thanks a lot, now it needs another module named: "tempita"
[17:16] <abchirk> can I unpack with tar in a special dir?
[17:16] <zetheroo> nixnoob: there are two versions in Add/Remove .... gtk+ and qt .... which one is good?
[17:16] <danhs> it's a crapshoot whether external monitor will work on restart or not
[17:16] <Hybrid> My GRUB wont find my vista is there any simple solution to this problem?
[17:16] <danhs> seems very odd to me
[17:16] <G-Mod> danhs- when the ubuntu screen appears you have an option at the bottom of the screen (F4 I believe) press it and select a lower resolution
[17:17] <nixnoob_> zetheroo: depends on what DE you are using.. gnome or KDE, if gnome then gtk if KDE then qt
[17:17] <danhs> G-Mod: but it's very odd that sometimes monitor boots and works perfectly and sometimes it doesn't work at all
[17:17] <Pinas_> soundray i think that you a right, but i really dont know whats wrong. I start Banshee Musik Player an everything works fine. I Close Banshee and start it again and nothing works any more
[17:17] <fde> zetheroo: -qt for kde/kubuntu -gtk for gnome/ubuntu
[17:17] <threeball> Hi.  I'm having trouble getting my wireless card to work in 8.04
[17:17] <danhs> Hybrid: ditch vista boot!  have you consider virtualizing vista w/ KVM?
[17:17] <no1r> nixnoob, it appears that ubuntu is not even detecting my wireless card
[17:17] <NMajik> Is there a way to get raw data from a wireless ethernet card?
[17:17] <zetheroo> nixnoob: oh ok ... I am using Ubuntu
[17:17] <Teisei> Doesn't ndiswrapper help ?
[17:18] <nixnoob_> zetheroo: then gtk :)
[17:18] <zetheroo> nixnoob: fantastic ... installing now
[17:18] <nixnoob_> Teisei: I linked him and told him to install ndisgtk but he is stil having poblem.
[17:18] <G-Mod> danhs: may be a monitor problem then
[17:18] <soundray> Pinas_: run tail -f /var/log/syslog  and see if any logged events are associated with closing and reopening banshee
[17:18] <danhs> Teisei: I've also been having some problems with wifi.  built in wireless in laptop doesn't seem to be working on encryption....
[17:18] <danhs> G-Mod: yes, you may be right.  my old monitor never had these issues
[17:18] <danhs> the new one is schitzo
[17:19] <threeball> my wireless card isn't working at all
[17:19] <Hybrid> danhs No it would be best if they could be both launched separately
[17:19] <danhs> but that still doesn't explain why it displays perfectly at bootup then nothign at login
[17:19] <chase_> soundray: can you help me? It says that the disk is full but I know that it has 140gigs + open space
[17:19] <nixnoob_> no1r: did you follow the instructions of the thread i linked u?  it recommends removing the preinstalled drivers.
[17:19] <nixnoob_> Anyone have an atheros wireless chipset that can help no1r ?
[17:20] <threeball> that's the card i'm trying to get working too, nixnoob
[17:20] <lunartear> has ubuntu not updated bind9 to 9.3.5-P1  on Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS Dapper to patch the "DNS Insufficient Socket Entropy Vulnerability."?
[17:20] <greatdane77> I'm so new to this Linux so how do i get to UFW? Using the Terminal or is there an easier way?
[17:20] <Pinas_> soundray i am alredy cheking the logs and i always get this error: Aug  4 18:15:35 Workoholic pulseaudio[6436]: module-alsa-sink.c: Error opening PCM device front:0: Device or resource busy
[17:20] <threeball> i think mine's the 5007
[17:20] <Pinas_> but Bunjee is not active any more
[17:20] <danhs> G-Mod: fact that it displays then stops makes me suspect that something with gnome or something like that is screwy somehow
[17:20] <Teisei> danhs: But the wireless scan does work ?
[17:20] <nixnoob_> threeball:  I found alot of stuff in the forums.
[17:20] <cygoku> In a Terminal, if I lauch nautilus as user or root, I always get this error message "WARNING **: Unable to add monitor: Operation not supported
[17:20] <cygoku> seahorse nautilus module shutdown" ... What is that ??
[17:20] <Pinas_> i dont see it with ps aux
[17:21] <chase_> soundray: are you going to help me?
[17:21] <nixnoob_> threeball: is the card even recognized?
[17:21] <danhs> Teisei: errr sometimes....at first, then later it flops.....I decided to just buy a new wifi card, waiting for it in the mail.  they're so cheap now....
[17:21] <threeball> i've found things in the forums too, the only thing is my card is recongnized as one thing and some of the forum posts say its misrecognized
[17:21] <danhs> made sure that it had out of the box compatibility
[17:21] <threeball> i'm not sure
[17:21] <danhs> cost me $20 or something
[17:21] <threeball> this is my revisit to trying linux
[17:21] <phones> hi
[17:21] <danhs> threeball: I would just buy a cheap wifi card that you know has good drivers
[17:21] <phones> all
[17:21] <marko-_-> hello suddenly sound stoped working... when i got "system->settings ->sound" and try test i get this error "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback. Device is being used by another application."
[17:21] <lightorbit> hi
[17:21] <danhs> won't cost you morethan $25
[17:21] <soundray> chase_: you probably have entered the /media... string wrong. Did you enter the letters in the correct case?
[17:22] <danhs> not worth the headaches, imho
[17:22] <soundray> chase_: also, did you verify with 'mount' that your external disk was mounted in the same place again?
[17:22] <danhs> after a few hours of trying to figure out drivers to my laptop wifi I decided it was easier to get a new cheap one....in the future, I'll just get builtin Centrino....but this laptop was a gift anyway
[17:22] <Teisei> danhs: That's true. For me, if I can't connect to my wireless WPA protected network, I just remove its data from "Manage Wireless Networks"
[17:22] <marko-_-> anyone ?
[17:22] <chase_> soundray: I didnt know that I had to =_=
[17:23] <Teisei> Then I retype password when it asks for it
[17:23] <Teisei> And it works again
[17:23] <danhs> remove its data?
[17:23] <bazhang> marko-_-, when did this begin
[17:23] <phones> any one who want to buy phones
[17:23] <danhs> how do you mean?
[17:23] <bazhang> phones, wrong channel
[17:23] <marko-_-> bazhang, 10 minutes ago... yesterday it wasn't working too but i reseted the X and then it worked... today it doesn't
[17:23] <phildbole> anyone have a quick moment to walk a moron through writing an iso to cd. more specifically 8.04 iso
[17:23] <soundray> chase_: well, it was reasonable to assume that it would, but do check.
[17:24] <danhs> G-Mod: thanks for help.  I'm to restart again to get monitor working
[17:24] <bazhang> marko-_-, did you do a test with the various items (alsa, pulse etc)
[17:24] <PMantis> Hello, my do-release-upgrade is crashing from 6.06.2 --> 8.04.1 with: Hash Sum mismatch, W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-backports/multiverse/source/Sources.bz2  ...   etc.   Ideas?
[17:24] <chase_> is it sda1-partimage or partimage-sda1?
[17:24] <marko-_-> bazhang, yes i did... i get the same error or another error audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument like this
[17:24] <bazhang> phildbole, dl iso, md5 the iso; burn at lowest speed possible, do disk integrity check then start up live cd
[17:25] <phones> l am a apple iphone
[17:25] <phones> seller
[17:25] <bazhang> marko-_-, I had the same thing earlier today; fiddling with those then restarting pulse fixed it for me
[17:25] <phones> any one who want to buy
[17:25] <bazhang> phones, stop
[17:25] <Pici> phones: This is a support channel, please take this elsewhere.
[17:26] <zetheroo> could someone help me understand what this is all about? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/34100/
[17:26] <marko-_-> bazhang, how do i do this ?
[17:26] <chase_> soundray: is it sda1-partimage or partimage-sda1?
[17:26] <phildbole> anyone have a quick moment to walk a moron through writing an iso to cd. more specifically 8.04 iso
[17:27] <marko-_-> phildbole, bazhang already told you
[17:27] <bazhang> phildbole, see above
[17:27] <Xavura> Anyone know where I can find documentation on GEdit themes/ GTK Sourceview 2.0
[17:27] <jordo2323> does anyone use no-ip2 for dyn dns? I have always had trouble with the Ubuntu version. It never seems to keep their site updated and always has a problem locating noip2.conf.
[17:27] <soundray> chase_: your choice, just make sure you recognize it immediately when you look at the files in the external disk
[17:27] <Xavura> I want to make a theme but I don't know what all the damn options in the XML files are for
[17:27] <magentar_> PMantis, don't know if it helps, but i think you are only supposed to upgrade from one ubuntu revision to the next
[17:27] <bazhang> marko-_-, open sound prefs and try the various items to be sure
[17:27] <phildbole> k
[17:27] <EvilDennisR> Anyone know if there are any limitations/issues with NFS+samba on 6.06.2 vs 8.04 ?
[17:27] <marko-_-> bazhang, what do you mean with "fiddling with those" ? and how do i restart the pulse ?
[17:27] <TuxPWNZ> I'm having this problem that's freaking me off, every time I watch a video or play a flash game on the net, Amarok and Exaile crash. Why is that? And how do I fix it? Please help.
[17:28] <PMantis> magentar_: Not according to:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#Upgrade%20from%206.06%20LTS%20to%208.04%20LTS
[17:28] <EvilDennisR> s/+/\//
[17:28] <bazhang> marko-_-, sorry :)
[17:28] <phones> pm me pls
[17:28] <Xavura> TuxPWNZ: Happens to everyone with every browser, flash problem, think it's fixable thoug
[17:28] <bazhang> phones not here
[17:28] <NemesisD> hi all, anyone know how to properly configure the wireless channel that a wireless interface uses? every time i start up i have to do iwconfig wlan0 channel 3? I have /etc/network/interfaces to say wireless-channel 3
[17:28] <Xavura> Anyone here know where I can read about how GEdit colour schemes work, the XML files
[17:28] <phildbole> thanks bazhang
[17:28] <magentar_> okay seems you are right, sorry ;)
[17:28] <bazhang> marko-_-, what I meant was to change from autodetect to alsa then test, pulse then test, etc
[17:28] <marko-_-> yea i had to alsa
[17:28] <marko-_-> and tested everything nothing works
[17:28] <PMantis> magentar_: They make exceptions for upgraded between LTS releases. :)
[17:29] <magentar_> ah good to know
[17:29] <TuxPWNZ> Xavura: Do you any idea how it is fixed? Or at least, is there a way I can tackle it away without having to reboot the whole system?
[17:29] <marko-_-> bazhang, so do you have another idea ?
[17:29] <Xavura> TuxPWNZ: Nope, I don't have to restart my system, I just restart Firefox and it fixes it, someone here will know
[17:29] <jordo2323> does anyone use no-ip2 for dyn dns? I have always had trouble with the Ubuntu version. It never seems to keep their site updated and always has a problem locating noip2.conf.
[17:30] <TuxPWNZ> Xavura: So does restart Firefox tackle the Amarok and Exaile crash?
[17:30] <marko-_-> i heard that they were many sound bug fixed in the 2.6.26 kernel
[17:30] <bazhang> marko-_-, then a restart of pulseaudio; though come to think of it I also rebooted right after that (as well as testing other speakers) :)
[17:31] <mds_> hi all. I have a problem with the screen resolution in my vmware (guest/host: Ubuntu 7.10).  Resolution is ok, when the graphical login shows up, but as sonn as I log in with the user it changes the resolution.  The /etc/X11/xorg.conf is ok.  where to look at?  Google didn't help much...
[17:31] <TuxPWNZ> Xavura: restarting*
[17:31] <scribawf> My CD-R/RW isn't recognized how do I fix this?
[17:31] <marko-_-> bazhang, ok i'll try to restart pulseaudio
[17:32] <chase_> soundray: it did the same thing this time, It is a 160 gig HD, I am looking at the propertys and it says that it has 148 GB free
[17:32] <marko-_-> bazhang, how do i restart pulseaudio ?:D
[17:32] <Xavura> TuxPWNZ: I dunno what Amarok and Exaile are
[17:32] <PMantis> magentar_: FYI: apt-get clean  before the do-release-upgrade worked!  :-)
[17:32] <tharvey> whats a quick cmdline that will tell someone if they are using dash or bash as sh?
[17:32] <CShadowRun> Hi, installing the KVM package from synaptic completely messed up my computer, can someone help please?
[17:33] <Xavura> TuxPWNZ: Whatever browser I'm using, if I watch Flash it crashes
[17:33] <Xavura> If I restart it, it fixes it for one flash film, then same again
[17:33] <unop> tharvey, ls -l $(which sh)
[17:33] <cygoku> seahorse nautilus module shutdown" ... What is that ??
[17:33] <tharvey> unop - thanks
 Amarok and Exaile are.. audio playback programs, just like Windows Media Player... -_-
[17:33] <soundray> chase_: where is it mounted?
[17:34] <Xavura> Ah right
[17:34] <unop> tharvey, or better.  readlink -f $(which sh)
[17:34] <soundray> !pulseaudio > Pinas_
[17:34] <Xavura> My browser just crashes when I watch Flash
[17:35] <chase_> /dev/sdb1 on /media/FreeAgent Drive type fusblk
[17:35] <TuxPWNZ> Xavura: With me, it's not the browser that crashes, it's Amarok and Exaile.
[17:35] <CShadowRun> Anyone? wheres the official long term support that comes with ubuntu?
[17:36] <chase_> soundray: /dev/sdb1 on /media/FreeAgent Drive type fusblk
[17:36] <dolo> hello
[17:37] <TuxPWNZ> Guys, Amarok and Exaile crash on me and refuse to play any audio files when I play flash on my browser.
[17:37] <diffen_> evning. if i install ubuntu server version on a hdd in one computer and move the hdd to another computer. will the server os still work on the new computer?
[17:37] <soundray> chase_: I see, your mount point name isn't /media/FreeAgent, but "/media/FreeAgent Drive"
[17:37] <soundray> chase_: that's annoying
[17:37] <Dolo> is any one here familiar with usplash?
[17:37] <hwilde> diffen_, both are x86 ?
[17:37] <soundray> chase_: see if partimage will accept the space character in the name. If not, we'll use trickery
[17:37] <diffen_> yes
[17:38] <chase_> soundray: k
[17:38] <hwilde> diffen_, should be fine
[17:38] <diffen_> hwilde: sorry yes
[17:38] <chase_> sudo partimage
[17:38] <diffen_> hwilde: sweet :D
[17:38] <chase_> woops
[17:38] <Dolo> i een trying to follow this tutorial to change my boot splash screen
[17:38] <Dolo> but havent had any luck
[17:39] <bastid_raZor> soundray; will \040 allow spaces in fstab?
[17:39] <scribawf> How do I get ubuntu to recognize my CD-R/RW drive?
[17:39] <soundray> bastid_raZor: yes
[17:39] <EvilDennisR> Anyone know if there are any limitations/issues with NFS and/or samba on ubuntu 6.06.2 vs 8.04 ?
[17:39] <chase_> soundray: it seems that it worked but I cant be sure untill it gos into the second part
[17:39] <soundray> bastid_raZor: at least that's what man fstab says
[17:39] <linxeh> EvilDennisR: there are issues with NFS period
[17:40] <soundray> chase_: okay
[17:40] <Dolo> usplash? anyone?
[17:40] <EvilDennisR> linxeh: I'm talking about any issues with a hardy machine connecting to a dapper machine via nfs
[17:40] <soundray> !sound > Pinas_
[17:41] <Raheem> !nfs
[17:41] <bazhang> marko-_-, sorry, got sidetracked; you have the hda intel sound card?
[17:41] <phones> pm me
[17:41] <phones> pls
[17:42] <Nutzebahn> Hello. I am using Ubuntu 7.10, and all of a sudden, Skype is telling me that I can't make calls because of a problem with Audio playback, and it is sometimesish, help?
[17:42] <Xavura> I need an application, since GIMP sucks and crashes all the time
[17:42] <Pinas_> !players
[17:42] <Xavura> All it needs to be able to do is let you open an image, and have a colour picker and be able to tell you the hexadecimal colour
[17:42] <Xavura> Anyone know of such software?
[17:42] <Xavura> I don't need a fully-features graphics program, just that.
[17:42] <bazhang> Xavura, something really simple?
[17:43] <gregge> Could someone please help me with my audio? I'm going nuts it won't work in some softwares
[17:43] <phones> hi
[17:43] <phones> all
[17:43] <Xavura> bazhang: Yes, it just need to be accurate
[17:43] <phones> any one who want to get free phones
[17:43] <phones> pm me
[17:43] <linxeh> Xavura: gimp can do that
[17:43] <Xavura> Yes
[17:43] <bazhang> phones, dont
[17:43] <Xavura> It can also be useless
[17:43] <Xavura> and crash
[17:43] <TheChaos92> ./C++/first.out
[17:43] <Xavura> and have too many features that I don't need
[17:43] <chase_> sourndray: it appears to be working thanks!
[17:43] <Xavura> I just want, nothing more than a program that can open an image and tell you the hexa-decimal colour codes for things with a colour picker
[17:44] <TheChaos92> :( cant run my C++ in here
[17:44] <Xavura> Since that's all it would be used for...
[17:44] <Vermux> why when I open konsole 2 windows are openend, one states: "kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 10" ???
[17:44] <Jakal> Hi, is there any way I can modify a text file after an X screen is closed ?
[17:44] <bazhang> Xavura, you done an apt-cache search yet?
[17:44] <soundray> chase_: perhaps make a note of what you've done -- it's a good way of backing up a full system.
[17:44] <Xavura> bazhang: For what?
[17:44] <unop> Jakal, how is the X screen invoked?
[17:44] <gregge> help me get audio working in amsn please
[17:44] <Xavura> I dunno what to search for
[17:44] <Raheem> Jakal, from the command promt ? yes.. use nano <filename>
[17:45] <linxeh> Xavura: try agave
[17:45] <JannoTT> !ogg
[17:45] <Jakal> automatically
[17:45] <Xavura> Agave can't open an image
[17:45] <Xavura> ...
[17:45] <bazhang> phildbole you still around?
[17:45] <RequinB4> Will stopping and continuing a file transfer every 6 or so seconds clog the tubes?
[17:45] <Xavura> Unless I'm missing something
[17:45] <JannoTT> What program is best to listen ogg stream(radio)?
[17:45] <linxeh> Xavura: so open it in display from imagemagick...
[17:45] <marko-_-> bazhang, to tell you the truth... i don't know the lspci print's out 80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio Controller (rev 10)
[17:45] <velvithammer> you need X
[17:45] <marko-_->
[17:45] <bastid_raZor> bazhang; he changed to isoRetard
[17:45] <soundray> chase_: there are also more feature-rich tools like sbackup, but I like how quick partimage is, as long as you don't have lots of data
[17:45] <unop> Jakal,  not sure what you are trying to accomplish - perhaps you need to give us more of an insight.
[17:45] <bazhang> bastid_raZor, thanks :)
[17:46] <Aval0n> is there any os or mod for an os out that comes close to the eyecandy of osx?
[17:46] <Xavura> linxeh: ?
[17:46] <marko-_-> but bazhang i will compile the 2.6.26 kernel now... so thank you for all the help
[17:46] <isoRetard> bazhang - yes but i changed my name to reflect my delima
[17:46] <Xavura> Aval0n: Yes, Google it...
[17:46] <linxeh> Xavura: you cant use TWO programs for it?
[17:46] <Xavura> I found it the other day gogle-ing
[17:46] <Aval0n> I know ubuntu aims to surpas in 2010
[17:46] <bazhang> marko-_-, then your fix may be different than mine
[17:46] <Xavura> I don't want two programs, for something I could do with one
[17:46] <Xavura> That's just stupid
[17:46] <Aval0n> Xavura goggle what
[17:46] <Aval0n> google*
[17:46] <Jakal>  for example I have X screen :1, if I close it, I want a new line to appear in a file with the string ":1"
[17:46] <linxeh> Xavura: go write one then
[17:46] <Xavura> [ Aval0n ] is there any os or mod for an os out that comes close to the eyecandy of osx?
[17:46] <RequinB4> !compiz | Aval0n
[17:46] <Aval0n> google that exact term?
[17:46] <Xavura> linxeh: I wouldn't be able to
[17:46] <Aval0n> :)
[17:46] <Xavura> Aval0n: "turn Ubuntu into Mac OS" or something
[17:46] <Aval0n> bah compiz doesn't come close
[17:47] <linxeh> Xavura: so use two
[17:47] <Xavura> I found it the other day
[17:47] <bazhang> isoRetard, no need for that; why not stick with your original nick (feels un-Coc with that nick)
[17:47] <RequinB4> Will stopping and continuing a file transfer every 6 or so seconds clog the tubes?
[17:47] <Aval0n> I'm not talking about making linux poorly mimic osx
[17:47] <unop> Jakal, are you using an xinitrc script for that X session/
[17:47] <unop> ?
[17:47] <Aval0n> I was hoping for something original
[17:47] <Xavura> It isn't poorly
[17:47] <Xavura> looked good to me
[17:47] <soundray> Xavura: please don't feed the trol
[17:47] <Xavura> if you want Mac OS, go buy a Mac... next please
[17:47] <soundray> l
[17:47] <isoRetard> bazhang thnks for the vote of confidence...
[17:47] <Jakal> unop, yes
[17:47] <Aval0n> i'll check it out
[17:47] <Xavura> soundray: ?
[17:47] <Aval0n> I'm no troll
[17:47] <rowdog> Xavura, ImageMagick is worth looking at. You can probably get the info on the command line if you RTFM enough
[17:47] <gregge> could anyone help me get audio working in amsn? I get an error I don't know what to do with
[17:48] <velvithammer> :)
[17:48] <RequinB4> Will stopping and continuing a file transfer every 6 or so seconds clog the tubes?
[17:48] <Aval0n> gonna check it out
[17:48] <mneptok> Aval0n: if it quacks like a duck ...
[17:48] <Aval0n> shaddup
[17:48] <Xavura> I hate people who assume everyone's a troll
[17:48] <soundray> Aval0n: you're not exactly in need of support either, so please take it to another channel
[17:48] <velvithammer> :)
[17:48] <velvithammer> hehhe
[17:48] <unop> Jakal, well, then modify the xinitrc to say this.  xinit :1 blah .. ; echo ":1" > /path/to/your_file
[17:48]  * mneptok 1  |  Troll 0
[17:48] <CShadowRun> how to i burn a img file in ubuntu to cd?
[17:48] <bastid_raZor> RequinB4; no, but sure makes a good chance for corrupted data
[17:48] <scribawf> CD-R/RW not recognized how do I fix, Please!?
[17:49] <soundray> CShadowRun: is it an iso image?
[17:49] <velvithammer> bin cue
[17:49] <bazhang> phildbole, did you get the iso yet?
[17:49] <gregge> CShadowRun: use brasero
[17:49] <pomtidom> double click, the rest should go automagically if it's an iso
[17:49] <CShadowRun> soundf_ no, it's a .img file
[17:49] <soundf_> ?
[17:49] <unop> Jakal, your xinitrc might be constructed differrently -- the point is to have the line echo ":1" > /path/to/your_file   somewhere after the command that launches your X app/session.
[17:49] <phildbole> got it but not familiar with md5bazhang - been looking it up
[17:49] <RequinB4> bastid_raZor: Ok, i can deal with that (Just wanted to to double check i won't have some angry people knocking down the door)
[17:49] <CShadowRun> soundf_ sorry i meant soundray
[17:49] <bazhang> phildbole, let me get you a bot link
[17:49] <bazhang> !md5 | phildbole
[17:50] <CShadowRun> gregge brasero does not burn the .img file
[17:50] <bastid_raZor> CShadowRun; i tend to use k3b which is a kd3 app but it works well
[17:50] <CShadowRun> it says its an invalid image.
[17:50] <RequinB4> Cshadowrun
[17:50] <soundray> CShadowRun: can you run 'file file.img' on it and see what it says
[17:50] <phildbole> bazhang - groovy thnks
[17:50] <bazhang> phildbole, you can use isorecorder2 or nero for windows to burn it
[17:50] <RequinB4> why do you have a .img file and not an ISO
[17:50] <gregge> CShadowRun: then it probably is an invalid image too. Maybe it's broken
[17:50] <bazhang> phildbole, once that is done insert the cd and boot up; be sure to set in bios to look for cd first
[17:51] <CShadowRun> soundray it says it's data
[17:51] <nixnoob_> anyone know how to turn off join/part messages in irssi? is it even possible?
[17:51] <phildbole> bazhang - is isorecorder for ubuntu
[17:51] <CShadowRun> gregge not a broken image, i loaded i checked it.
[17:51] <bazhang> phildbole, thought you were using windows
[17:51] <soundray> CShadowRun: how did you load and check?
[17:51] <bazhang> phildbole, for ubuntu just right click open with cd/dvd creator
[17:51] <CShadowRun> soundray pointed pcsx at it.
[17:52] <CShadowRun> (playstation emulator)
[17:52] <phildbole> bazhang -nope older version of ubuntu trying to create live cd of 8.04
[17:52] <velvithammer> bchunk? works for me
[17:52] <velvithammer> http://bloguen.blogspot.com/2007/08/mounting-iso-bin-nrg-cue-dmf-and-img-in.html
[17:52] <CShadowRun> velvithammer thanks
[17:52] <bazhang> phildbole, which version
[17:53] <rabby> hello
[17:53] <phildbole> aska me to write to disk but for options i only have file system...even then nothing happens
[17:53] <phildbole> 7.1 i guess
[17:53] <rabby> after dist upgrade there is a eth1 disturbing my eth0 configartion or route table :-(
[17:53] <rabby> i use a static ipconfig: http://nopaste.info/2062393f80.html
[17:54] <bazhang> phildbole, right click on iso open with cd/dvd creator does not bring up a write window?
[17:54] <rabby> and ifconfig and route -n look like http://nopaste.info/fc8539dc76.html
[17:54] <cygoku> seahorse nautilus module shutdown" ... What is that ??
[17:54] <velvithammer> oh no
[17:54] <chase_> soundray: ok I have the partimage done now can you help me with gparted?
[17:54] <RandyboY> Is aMSN supposed to be with no sound? Installed aMSN cause i liked the design. But it seems to be without any sound... No other programs is without sound. So i guess my soundcard/setting is working
[17:54] <rabby> the route is wrong. it should be <IP_ADDRESS> (eth0) and not the other device. eth1 is not even connected with any lan cable!
[17:55] <smev81> i have a delicate problem: i want to grub a windowsxp on a logical partition. Any clues?
[17:55] <phildbole> negative...sorry to have mislead you...ive been exploring ubunto on this macine...hate windows.  but ignorant to most linux jargon
[17:55] <CShadowRun> velvithammer that method appears to corrupt the image.
[17:55] <velvithammer> sorry
[17:55] <rabby> can You tell me, please, how to change the route constantly to do roght work like it did before dist upgrade?
[17:55] <phildbole> im self thought little by little
[17:56] <CShadowRun> velvithammer lol its ok i have it backed up, just saying it didn't work :(
[17:56] <cygoku> When I launch Nautilus as user or root, I always get this error message, why ?? "" WARNING **: Unable to add monitor: Operation not supported ""
[17:56] <unop> rabby, what does /etc/network/interfaces look like? can you pastebin that too?
[17:56] <bazhang> phildbole, you have 7.10 currently installed?
[17:56] <chase_> what filesystem does windows XP use?
[17:56] <pwizard88> Hi, I have a few files on my NTFS partition, which have been marked hidden using windows. Can I remove this hidden attribute using any windows command?
[17:56] <pwizard88> *any linux command
[17:56] <phildbole> bazhang yes
[17:57] <Aval0n> so what is the current project name for what beryl was
[17:57] <Aval0n> compiz-fusion?
[17:57] <bazhang> phildbole, insert a blank cd then right click on the iso file
[17:57] <unop> chase_, NTFS primarily -- it can use FATXX too
[17:57] <bitsbam> hey all, what is a good command line file manager?
[17:57] <unop> bitsbam, mc
[17:57] <HeartLinux> could someone help me with the #132 error from cedega while trying to run WoW?
[17:57] <chase_> thanks
[17:57] <velvithammer> midnight commander
[17:57] <linxeh> HeartLinux: isn't that a cedega issue?
[17:57] <velvithammer> thinks
[17:58] <bitsbam> unop, velvithammer, mc and midnight commander the same ?
[17:58] <Jakal> where exactly can I find the bootscript ?
[17:58] <HeartLinux> linxeh: I know... but maybe you could help me :)
[17:58] <velvithammer> yeah
[17:58] <Flannel> HeartLinux: You pay for cedega for the support, don't you?  It works fine in wine.
[17:58] <unop> bitsbam, they are
[17:58] <pomtidom> since I upgraded to the latest LTS ubuntu, everything at the login screen is way to big; if i open the menu, only a few words fit on my screen.  As if my resolution was very low (some other things look normal though).  Does anyone know why that is, and how I can fix it?
[17:58] <linxeh> HeartLinux: http://www.transgaming.com/support/ - they will know more about their fork of wine
[17:58] <pwizard88> *Hi, I have a few files on my NTFS partition, which have been marked hidden using windows. Can I remove this hidden attribute using any linux command?
[17:58] <bitsbam> ok, thanks, unop, velvithammer
[17:58] <HeartLinux> well I didn't quite... well... payed :D
[17:58] <Bruners> HeartLinux: tried to search for #134 cedega in google?
[17:58] <linxeh> HeartLinux: so use WINE and you'll have more help, otherwise pay - its not like it is expensive..
[17:59] <Gnea> HeartLinux: we don't support pirated software here.
[17:59] <HeartLinux> I tried to search but it was refering at an older problem from an older version (supposedly fixed in 6.0.5)
[17:59] <Bruners> Gnea: it could be a trial version
[17:59] <linxeh> WoW in Cedega works great here
[17:59] <HeartLinux> linxeh: I know it isnt much but in my country making a credit card in foreign money is hard
[17:59] <xanax`> hello
[17:59] <bazhang> !piracy | HeartLinux
[17:59] <Bruners> wow worked for me with vanilla wine
[18:00] <pwizard88> !guidelines
[18:00] <phildbole> bazhang k
[18:00] <JewStyleKungFu> what do you use to edit a text file form bash in an ubuntu server
[18:00] <Grood> Hello!
[18:00] <JewStyleKungFu> *form
[18:00] <velvithammer> cedega sucks ...they put to much time into they'r cider mac crap
[18:00] <JewStyleKungFu> from
[18:00] <HeartLinux> Bruners: It worked well? Even the mouse?
[18:00] <Gnea> !cedega
[18:00] <wols_> JewStyleKungFu: use nano
[18:00] <Bruners> HeartLinux: yep
[18:00] <RickX> can anyone tell me why an xfce install requires uninstalling KDE's gtk-qt engine?
[18:00] <HeartLinux> hmmm gotta google it
[18:00] <JewStyleKungFu> wols_: thanks
[18:00] <wols_> RickX: check its conflichts
[18:00] <wols_> *conflicts
[18:00] <Grood> I use Ubuntu
[18:00] <velvithammer> whatever :)P
[18:01] <phildbole__> bazhang ok
[18:01] <bazhang> phildbole__, it is writing now?
[18:01] <RickX> wols_, how? I got the message from synaptic
[18:01] <wols_> Grood: as do 800 other peple in here. what's your point?
[18:01] <Nutzebahn> How do I get my computer name?
[18:01] <linxeh> HeartLinux: what country are you in? Romania ?
[18:01] <Gnea> !language | velvithammer
[18:01] <wols_> RickX: the package still conflicts with something
[18:01] <MrDakoki> hi all
[18:01] <HeartLinux> linxeh yes :D
[18:01] <velvithammer> ?
[18:01] <linxeh> figures :p
[18:01] <Gnea> Nutzebahn: hostname
[18:01] <HeartLinux> roman cumva? :D
[18:01] <wols_> Nutzebahn: what do you think its "name" is?
[18:01] <Grood> Is anybody gaming Wormux here?
[18:02] <velvithammer> okay
[18:02] <yareckon_> Nutzebahn, look in /etc/hosts maybe
[18:02] <RickX> wols_, the conflict isn't shown in the message
[18:02] <phildbole__> bazhang - it said copying and finished vey quickly
[18:02] <linxeh> HeartLinux: no, I'm English - sorry :) I just looked at your whois info
[18:02] <yareckon_> hostname is better
[18:02] <wols_> RickX: no it's not but in the package descriptions
[18:02] <MrDakoki> soemone konows how to sun a sbin command on startup without password?
[18:02] <HeartLinux> linxeh pervert :D
[18:02] <wols_> MrDakoki: "sun"?
[18:02] <gaten> how can you start up/move an application to another desktop via the command line in gnome?
[18:02] <velvithammer> :)
[18:02] <RickX> wols_, I'll look.
[18:02] <MrDakoki> not start sesions-> preferences bla bla bla
[18:02] <Gnea> i think he meant 'run'
[18:02] <wols_> MrDakoki: use rc.local
[18:02] <MrDakoki> ok
[18:02] <HeartLinux> Bruners: Where can I get "Vanilla Wine"? A google search doesnt show it
[18:03] <MrDakoki> ill try thank you very much
[18:03] <wols_> HeartLinux: winehq.com
[18:03] <Flannel> HeartLinux: sudo apt-get install wine
[18:03] <mneptok> HeartLinux: buna sera.
[18:03] <cwillu> is there an option to scp akin to the -u option to cp?
[18:03] <bazhang> phildbole__, okay now try rebooting with the cd in the drive and set bios to look for cd first (if you have not already); probably a good idea to have an ethernet connection for the first boot
[18:03] <Bruners> HeartLinux: its called Wine, vanilla just means its a clean install nothing done other than installing it
[18:03] <HeartLinux> moama romani!!!
[18:03] <Flannel> !devilspie | gaten
[18:03] <cwillu> (I don't have rsync or an ssh-server available on the machine I need to run it on)
[18:03] <magnetron> HeartLinux, "vanilla wine" means the Wine from WineHQ.com
[18:03] <Flannel> gaten: devilspie might be what you're looking for
[18:03] <HeartLinux> I already had wine installed but had problems with the FPS and the mouse
[18:03] <bazhang> !ro | HeartLinux
[18:03] <bullgard4> What is the follow-up project of NVU HTML editor?
[18:04] <velvithammer> version?
[18:04] <phildbole__> bazhang i will try and yes i already have that set...brb
[18:04] <velvithammer> wine
[18:04] <Nutzebahn> Thank you wols_.
[18:04] <HeartLinux> 1.0
[18:04] <phildbole__> thks bazhang
[18:04] <magnetron> HeartLinux, yes, but did you have the Wine from the winehq homepage? or the Wine shipped with ubuntu?
[18:04] <unop> cwillu, i don't think so -- but you could use rsync over ssh to the same effect
[18:04] <Flannel> bullgard4: kompozer
[18:04] <velvithammer> true
[18:04] <gaten> thank you, Flannel
[18:04] <amatson97> what is going on with nautilus why is it so bug
[18:04] <amatson97> buggy*
[18:04] <HeartLinux> magnetron: I installed it from the link there
[18:04] <velvithammer> what app
[18:04] <nixnoob_> this channel is so much neater without the join/parts
[18:04] <Deepthought> in X-Chat, is there a way to switch of all the 'xxx-has left channel'  / 'xxx-has joined' messages ?   Or better, redirect them to another tab ?
[18:05] <cwillu> unop, rsync already uses ssh in this case.  But I can't log into the machine via ssh
[18:05] <bazhang> HeartLinux, wine help in #winehq ; also check appdb
[18:05] <wols_> Deepthought: /ignore joins
[18:05] <cwillu> unop, aka, I can only make outgoing connections
[18:05] <bazhang> !appdb | HeartLinux
[18:05] <bullgard4> Flannel: Thank you very much.
[18:05] <unop> cwillu, heh, and you can use scp against the machine? strange..
[18:05] <cwillu> unop, no
[18:05] <velvithammer> get codeweavers crossover
[18:05] <cwillu> unop, I can scp _from_ that machine, just like I can ssh from it
[18:05] <Deepthought> wols_, aha !   that' s just a general irc-command that works in every prog ?
[18:05] <RawSushi> anyone else have a problem with firefox closing on you in the middle of surfing?
[18:05] <nixnoob_> Deepthought: http://clintecker.com/disable-irc-msgs.html
[18:06] <velvithammer> oh yeah
[18:06] <cwillu> unop, but scp doesn't have a 'only copy files that don't exist' option
[18:06] <bazhang> RawSushi, using youtube?
[18:06] <wols_> Deepthought: no. it's a irc client specific command. either your client can do it or you are SOL
[18:06] <cwillu> unop, and there's no rsync binary
[18:06] <gsevil> i mount iso image but some programs don't recognize it like true cdrom drive, what should I do?
[18:06] <Bruners> RawSushi: have you updated to the latest version ?
[18:06] <RawSushi> bazhang, that's where it happened last, yes.
[18:06] <bokey> oh wols is a ubuntu user now? uhhmm..
[18:06] <RawSushi> but I think other places too
[18:06] <wols_> gsevil: windows programs?
[18:06] <wols_> bokey: no I am not
[18:06] <RawSushi> Bruners: I believe so.  What's the latest?
[18:06] <bokey> wols_: fine
[18:06] <Deepthought> wols_, SOL ?   And how about the leave ?  /ignore leaves  (nice in season of fall ;-) ?
[18:07] <nixnoob_> Deepthought: you should check the link I gave you.
[18:07] <Gnea> bokey: what's the problem?
[18:07] <wols_> it's parts actually. and same thing applies
[18:07] <gsevil> wols_: yes
[18:07] <bokey> Gnea: should there be a problem?
[18:07] <hyperair> i'm looking for a notebook with intel graphics, centrino duo 2.0GHz, intel wifi, 2GB RAM, and 160GB hdd with a budget of RM3000 (USD919.60). what brands should i look at? =\
[18:07] <Deepthought> nixnoob_, will do, was about to reply to tell ya
[18:07] <wols_> gsevil: don't buy stuff with DRM. nothing else you can do
[18:07] <Flannel> hyperair: Ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[18:07] <velvithammer> toshiba
[18:07] <bazhang> hyperair, ask in ##hardware
[18:07] <hyperair> okay thanks
[18:08] <unop> cwillu, hmm. it should be faily simple taking the output of find (on the target machine) .. checking if those files exist locally, if not, copy them to the target ..
[18:08] <bazhang> velvithammer, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:08] <velvithammer> my bad
[18:08] <opteek> im having a problem with certain apps not sending documents to the print queue. firefox seems to print fine, and i can print test pages, but document viewer, or xpdf, for example, do not send any documents to the print queue?
[18:08] <unop> cwillu, err, sorry ..
[18:08] <gsevil> wols_: what's is DRM?
[18:08] <Deepthought> wols_, nixnoob_ thanx, this will make the window much more readable, those messages are worse than pasters...
[18:08] <wols_> !DRM
[18:08] <Gnea> bokey: 99% of the time, people come in here with some sort of problem.
[18:08] <Gnea> whoops
[18:08] <RawSushi> Firefox/3.0.1
[18:08] <wols_> DRM is digital rights management
[18:09] <RawSushi> is that the latest?
[18:09] <nixnoob_> Deepthought: yea i kno i just turned it off and it makes a world of difference especially in this channel
[18:09] <Gnea> RawSushi: yes
[18:09] <Nutzebahn> I really want to get Skype working\
[18:09] <phildbole> bazhang - no go
[18:09] <RawSushi> yup
[18:09] <nixnoob_> DRM is SLAVERY!
[18:09] <MrDakoki> to sun at init.d is needed: #update-rc.d <command> defaults
[18:09] <bazhang> phildbole, what errors did you get
[18:09] <unop> cwillu, creating a diff of the target machine's listing vs the local listing should give you the list of files to be copied ..
[18:09] <MrDakoki> all solved
[18:09] <MrDakoki> im going to try
[18:09] <RawSushi> yeah skype would be nice to get working too.  it used to work fine
[18:09] <gsevil> wols_:I run it normally in windows without cd
[18:09] <MrDakoki> thanks
[18:09] <cwillu> unop, I was hoping for a two letter approach to not having to go through that
[18:09] <phildbole> none just booted like it wasn't even there
[18:09] <Gnea> nixnoob_: so are gas prices, but can we stick to topic please? :)
[18:09] <cwillu> unop, it doesn't exist
[18:09] <Bruners> what command is used td display what distro is running?
[18:10] <bazhang> phildbole, did you set bios correctly?
[18:10] <LogicalDash> I'm trying to build noegnud. It keeps giving me the error, "/bin/sh: sdl11-config: not found". I have a program called sdl-config, but not sdl1-config. Help?
[18:10] <nixnoob_> Gnea: im not even going to start
[18:10] <cwillu> Bruners, cat /etc/lsb-release will work on some distro's (including ubuntu)
[18:10] <Gnea> Bruners: lsb-release -a
[18:10] <linxeh> cwillu: or running lsb_release -a
[18:10] <phildbole> absolutely. boot sequence...right?
[18:10] <Deepthought> nixnoob_, would that be the command /set irc_conf_mode 1 ?
[18:10] <bazhang> phildbole, yes
[18:11] <nixnoob_> Deepthought: for xchat? i think so.
[18:11] <opteek> does anyone know why some apps do not send documents to the print queue while others do under ubuntu?
[18:11] <Bruners> Gnea: command not found
[18:11] <Gnea> opteek: what programs aren't printing correctly?
[18:11] <alphis> sup all. which version of ubuntu do i need to download to get quad core support?
[18:11] <gregge> I just bought an HP-laptop, and I'm really pissed off they don't make linux drivers for their hardwares. Especially their own hardware, like their remote and the pavilion media center. How can I fix this?
[18:11] <bazhang> opteek, via cups or gnome print utility
[18:11] <lovok> Anyone want to help me resize my partitions?
[18:11] <Gnea> Bruners: oops, lsb_release -a
[18:11] <Deepthought> nixnoob_, nope, tried it on different channel, doesn' t work; in fact there' s nothing helpful in that link that I can see, or am I missing something (concerning x-chat I mean)
[18:11] <opteek> Gnea, xpdf, Document Viewer, vmware shared printer, to name a few
[18:11] <LogicalDash> lovok, what help do you want?
[18:11] <opteek> bazhang, CUPS
[18:12] <cwillu> alphis, I think the standard -generic kerenl supports it, if it doesn't, then the -server kernel will
[18:12] <lovok> I have Ubuntu on one hdd, and I would like to install a second copy on the same hdd
[18:12] <bazhang> opteek, you have the drivers set ?
[18:12] <nixnoob_> Deepthought: theres nothing in the GUI configuration that allows you to turn those messages off?
[18:12] <phildbole> This is by far the most difficult ive delt with so far...no hope of figuring it out on my own yo know
[18:12] <DaveG|> hey, how do i upgrade to the alpha version of 8.10 in console?
[18:12] <Bruners> Gnea: thanks :)
[18:12] <Gnea> opteek: have you checked their printing configuration and made sure they're sending to the proper default printer set at system->administration->printing ?
[18:12] <LogicalDash> lovok, probably the easiest thing would be to boot from your install disc, run the partition editor, shrink your existing partition and do a new install into the empty space
[18:12] <opteek> bazhang, Yes, I have LDP drivers with a cups wrapper, such that I can print a test page and printing w/ firefox works fine
[18:12] <bazhang> phildbole, any reason not to update via the net?
[18:12] <Gnea> Bruners: cheese
[18:13] <Gnea> Bruners: cheers!
[18:13] <bazhang> opteek, what does not work? ie what app
[18:13] <nixnoob_> Deepthought: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=417131 says it works.
[18:13] <Gnea> the lag from this massive update is.... blah
[18:13] <opteek> bazhang, Document viewer is the one I am concerned with at the moment
[18:13] <lovok> LogicalDash, would I loose and information?
[18:13] <LogicalDash> lovok, probably not, but best to back up just in case
[18:13] <opteek> bazhang, evince, specifically
[18:13] <bazhang> opteek, for pdfs?
[18:13] <maybeway36> DaveDJ: probably change sources.list then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[18:13] <opteek> bazhang, yes
[18:13] <nixnoob_> I'm out to lunch
[18:13] <lovok> LogicalDash, thanks for the leads, I'll give it a try
[18:13] <LogicalDash> lovok, you're welcome!
[18:14] <Deepthought> nixnoob_, nope, that' s why I' m asking, there' s not a whole lotta options in thre, but since it' s such a hardheaded nix-app I figured there might be some extra' s in a conf file or something; anyway, the /ignore joins works fine, tried /ignore parts just now and it seems to work !
[18:14] <Kohlrak> does anyone know i can disable an account from getting root access through sudo?
[18:14] <opteek> Gnea, yes, I have one printer set up and it is set as the default printer
[18:14] <linxeh> Kohlrak: visudo
[18:14] <Kohlrak> thank you
[18:14] <linxeh> Kohlrak: its essentially a change in /etc/sudoers - but use visudo to change it
[18:14] <Gnea> opteek: make sure that the output for them is set to letter, not A4
[18:15] <phildbole> yes ive upgraded three times now but every time it gets to the point of configuring the locales it just stops...then my system can not reboot to my desktop...it hangs up after logon
[18:15] <maybeway36> in Debian at least, visudo launches nano
[18:15] <alphis> cwillu: does anyone know for sure? how can i tell if the desktop edition supports quad core or not after i install it?
[18:15] <maybeway36> ironicaly
[18:15] <phildbole> permenantly!?
[18:15] <linxeh> maybeway36: it depends on what your EDITOR env variable is set to
[18:15] <opteek> Gnea, it is set to Letter
[18:15] <maybeway36> oh
[18:15] <cwillu> alphis, the desktop kernel in 6.06 supported 8 cores, I can't imagine they reduced it
[18:15] <DaveG|> maybeway36, and where would i find the other repos?
[18:15] <Gnea> alphis: cat /proc/cpuinfo  <-- how many CPU's are listed?
[18:15] <qr_> alphis: you can check how many processors show up in top, or in /proc/cpuinfo
[18:15] <bazhang> phildbole, was this feisty to gutsy now to hardy that it hung on locales?
[18:15] <linxeh> maybeway36: or VISUAL - depends on the platofrm which it uses
[18:16] <RequinB4> Trying to get my usb printer working - It is listed in lsusb, and it can't be found, so i went to the CUPS interface and found the 'location' input is blank.  How can I tell what to put in the location bar (actually, just learned it's easier through system - admin - printing)
[18:16] <maybeway36> DaveDJ: change every time of "hardy" to "intrepid" in /etc/apt/sources.list\
[18:16] <linxeh> maybeway36: there is a command to do that properly
[18:16] <Gnea> opteek: is your user part of the lpadmin group?
[18:16] <Kohlrak> linuxeh: what would i change in there to make account "guest" not have sudo access? Or what line would it be to make "kohlrak" the only one who can sudo?
[18:16] <ultrahex> hey
[18:16] <Deepthought> wols_, nixnoob_, I take back that ignore thing, it doesn' t work, there were just no leavings and joinings for a while... I do get an info line that doesn' t make much sense
[18:16] <DaveG|> maybeway36, ok thanks
[18:16] <phildbole> im sorry i have no idea what you said ;-)
[18:17] <maybeway36> linxeh: i don't know it. What is it?
[18:17] <alphis> oh ok. thanks a lot guys
[18:17] <Deepthought> nixnoob_, wols_ the line does hold some promise however, I just can' t seem to figure the mask thing out
[18:17] <qr_> Kohlrak: you can edit who has sudo rights with the visudo command (make sure you know how to use vi first)
[18:17] <phildbole> too meaty you mea ust too much?
[18:17] <linxeh> maybeway36: do_release_upgrade I think
[18:17] <bazhang> phildbole, was this 7.04 to 7.10 now 8.04 you tried to upgrade from?
[18:17] <Kohlrak> thanks
[18:17] <phildbole> no 7.1 to 8.04
[18:17] <RequinB4> Trying to get my usb printer working - It is listed in lsusb, and it can't be found, so i went to the CUPS interface and found the 'location' input is blank.  How can I tell what to put in the location bar (actually, just learned it's easier through system - admin - printing)
[18:17] <linxeh> maybeway36: sorry. do-release-upgrade
[18:18] <Gnea> phildbole: i did one of those this past weekend. are you having issues?
[18:18] <bazhang> phildbole, try it from the 14 kernel (choose in grub menu)
[18:18] <opteek> Gnea, yes it is
[18:18] <Gnea> opteek: and.. there's plenty of ink?
[18:19] <opteek> Gnea, yes, I can print a test page without any problems, same thing with firefox
[18:19] <phildbole> now this is where the jargon or terminoligy soars above my head....s
[18:19] <opteek> Gnea, as long as the document gets into the print queue, it prints
[18:19]  * linxeh wonders how well ubuntu will run on a macbook these days
[18:19] <enneth> How great is the support for programs in Ubuntu 64-bit? The last time I tried (nearly two years ago) almost nothing would run.
[18:19] <Gnea> opteek: hrm. what make/model is the printer?
[18:19] <linxeh> enneth: fantastic now
[18:19] <wishie> for some strange reason, my left CTRL key is no longer working as it should.. the right one still works fine.
[18:20] <opteek> Gnea, it is a brother HL-2170W; I am using a cups wrapper for the driver
[18:20] <RequinB4> Trying to get my usb printer working - It is listed in lsusb, and it can't be found, so i went to the CUPS interface and found the 'location' input is blank.  How can I tell what to put in the location bar (actually, just learned it's easier through system - admin - printing)
[18:20] <enneth> Is it possible to see a list of working programs on 64-bit?
[18:20] <wishie> i have confirmed with xev, that the left CTLR key is still sending a code, but isnt assigned the keysym Contrl_L
[18:20] <linxeh> enneth: practically everything works that is open source, and flash and the like work too now. the 32bit stuff can still be run under a compatibility layer
[18:20] <jazzkutya> has anybody any idea why hungarian keyboard layout does not work in a java app, mercury messenger? (or maybe any other non-default layout)
[18:20] <RequinB4> !64bit
[18:21] <linxeh> enneth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64
[18:21] <phildbole> self schooling can have its obstacles
[18:21] <enneth> Alright, thank you very much, linxeh.
[18:21] <RequinB4> Trying to get my usb printer working - It is listed in lsusb, and it can't be found, so i went to the CUPS interface and found the 'location' input is blank.  How can I tell what to put in the location bar (actually, just learned it's easier through system - admin - printing)
[18:21] <bazhang> phildbole, you know the countdown you get after the bios screen?
[18:21] <phildbole> yes
[18:21] <tech404> Is there a method for displaying binary files as binary? I have found many resources for hex and octal with man hexdump, man od, man dd but I need something that will display in 1's and 0's
[18:22] <wishie> where can i see the default keysyms for each key on my keyboard
[18:22] <linxeh> enneth: if you plan to have more than 2GB of RAM any time soon it is definitely worth going 64bit, as well as if you want to do a lot of crunching (encoding audio/video etc)
[18:22] <bazhang> phildbole, it will let you get into the grub menu, but you have to hit esc quickly (three seconds iirc)
[18:22] <bartmon> !dvd
[18:22] <phildbole> bazhang -ah yes i know where you speak of
[18:23] <enneth> linxeh, I am doing a lot of video encoding. Is it much faster than the 32-bit in general? I have an E6600 if that matters.
[18:23] <bazhang> phildbole, scroll down in there and choose the second kernel (14 not 15)
[18:23] <phildbole> 14 not 15.....this is progress gracias...brb
[18:24] <seo> hey ;)
[18:24] <Aval0n> guys
[18:24] <seo> is enabling hardy-proposed a good idea ?
[18:24] <Aval0n> can world of warcraft be played on ubuntu
[18:24] <Aval0n> and have mutiple resolution support?
[18:24] <Gnea> Aval0n: yes.
[18:24] <bazhang> seo, depends on how risky you want to play it
[18:24] <RequinB4> !WoW | Aval0n
[18:24] <Aval0n> really? nice
[18:25] <Aval0n> last time I checked 800x600 was it
[18:25] <Aval0n> plugins/addons all work too?
[18:25] <seo> bazhang, hmm, maybe it's like fedora rawhide ? experimental and untested updates ?
[18:25] <linxeh> enneth: it can do, if the code is well written and takes into account 64bit (or the compiler optimises for it)
[18:25] <bazhang> seo, not that risky :)
[18:25] <Gnea> !cedega | Aval0n
[18:25] <unop> tech404, such a file viewer wouldn't make much sense .. as the significance of the bits depends on the file's encoding i.e. ascii vs unicode, etc
[18:26] <tech404> Aval0n: everything should work... in practice it can act a little funny. I have no problems
[18:26] <Aval0n> Gnea thanks
[18:26] <nicks> OMG Ubuntu is now Oepnsource!! did you guys see the news on the site!?!
[18:26] <seo> Aval0n, i have success on playing eve online in crossover office, but it isn't free
[18:26] <bazhang> nicks, please chat elsewhere
[18:26] <unop> tech404, anyway. for an ascii file this should work.   perl -lne 'print map {$_=sprintf "%08b",ord$_} split //'  /path/to/file
[18:27] <nicks> bazhang,why? isn't that ubuntu related?
[18:27] <tech404> unop: Thanks... I'm trying to understand my partition table a bit more
[18:27] <Deepthought> wols_, nixnoob_  it's /SET irc_conf_mode 1 after all, only it doesn' t work until you part en rejoin...  probably I should set it as start command somewhere in the connect-config.   there' s a whole lot more where I found it : http://xchat-win32.berlios.de/setvars.html
[18:27] <Gnea> nicks: did you have a question?
[18:27] <bazhang> nicks, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[18:27] <nicks> Gnea,yes why did ubuntu go open source and windows isn't?
[18:27] <seo> bazhang, thank you, one last question, is there a solution for easy downgrade, or tracking what packages are from proposed repository ?
[18:27] <Gnea> !ot | nicks
[18:28] <bazhang> seo, no easy downgrades
[18:28] <linxeh> are there any plans to have dogtag pki packages for ubuntu ?
[18:28] <Deepthought> wols_, nixnoob_ thanx for getting me on track
[18:28] <joseph_cheah> can someone point me to the Ubuntu mobile Embedded channel?
[18:28] <bazhang> #ubuntu-mobile
[18:28] <nicks> Gnea,you're kicking me out of this chan? :(
[18:28] <bazhang> nicks, please stop
[18:28] <Gnea> !mobile | joseph_cheah
[18:28] <nicks> bazhang,what? I didn't do anything to you..
[18:29] <nicks> Im asking Gnea :(
[18:29] <Gnea> nicks: please respect the rules and you question will be answered.
[18:29] <bazhang> nicks this is a busy support channel; not a chat channel
[18:29] <Gnea> *your
[18:29] <acrousey> I am guessing that ubuntu does not come with mp123. Am I correct?
[18:29] <Gnea> acrousey: sudo apt-get install mpg321
[18:29] <seo> bazhang, 10x, i used linux for 7 years, but now i like ubuntu, great distro, congrats to developers
[18:29] <seo> see ya
[18:30] <bazhang> cya seo
[18:30] <nicks> bazhang,hmm ok how do I use backtrack 3 on ubuntu?
[18:30] <acrousey> gnea: it's just backwords?
[18:30] <bazhang> nicks, the distro?
[18:30] <Gnea> acrousey: with a symlink - they're really the same program
[18:30] <Siph0n> Nick_, dual boot? backtrack is a live cd
[18:30] <nicks> bazhang,is there a way to use the tools?
[18:30] <nicks> on ubuntu
[18:30] <bazhang> nicks, which specific tools
[18:30] <Siph0n> nicks, yes download the tools
[18:30] <Siph0n> nicks, aircrack is in the repositories i believe
[18:30] <nicks> bazhang,all tools
[18:31] <Siph0n> lol fine dont listen to me :)
[18:31] <nicks> I like ubuntu but i hate the bt3 gui
[18:31] <wishie> how can i restore my keyboard keysyms/mapping to the default that it was ?
[18:31] <mylesmadnes> when I go to screen resolution the max is 800x600, but when I'm on windows its is 1024x768, how do I fix this
[18:31] <eie> hello.. am trying to install skystar2 in ubuntu i was given this link http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Hardware/Installing_Skystar_2_in_Linux    but i dont think it is clear enough for a beginner to follow... nor i havent been getting any answers from here lately.. can anyone help?
[18:31] <eie> also tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=683661
[18:31] <nicks> Siph0n,aww comon this is a busy chan as bazhang said I have like 30 eyes to watch who talks to me..
[18:32] <nicks> Siph0n,i want all the tools not just aircrack
[18:32] <Siph0n> nicks, lol ok :) well a lot of the tools are in the repositories... like wireshark, nmap, and i bet others....
[18:32] <bazhang> nicks check packages.ubuntu.com
[18:32] <phildbole> Bazhang- got it
[18:32] <acrousey> gnea: hey, i was disconnected for a moment. what do I need to use again to get mp321?
[18:32] <Siph0n> and if u cant find them there, u could prob download the source and compile them yourself
[18:32] <ndumac> is anyone know whether SBackup uses rsync or not?  I can't tell
[18:32] <ndumac> does*
[18:32] <mylesmadnes> when I go to screen resolution the max is 800x600, but when I'm on windows its is 1024x768, how do I fix this
[18:32] <Gnea> nicks: system->administration->synaptic package manager   you can find everytying you need there
[18:33] <yugo_> Is there any guide that how to boot ubuntu faster?
[18:33] <bazhang> phildbole, now try the version upgrade; you prefer gui or cli
[18:33] <nicks> Siph0n,aww no way to do it all automatically? like integrate it?
[18:33] <Gnea> mylesmadnes: using what graphics card?
[18:33] <nicks> like xubuntu,ubuntu,kubuntu does?
[18:33] <Gnea> acrousey: sudo apt-get install mpg321
[18:33] <mylesmadnes> Gnea, voodoo3, its super old
[18:33] <phildbole> gui then you know slow and easy
[18:33] <eie> wow no reply again
[18:33] <Siph0n> nicks, nope.... no possible way.... that i know of :)
[18:33] <Carroarmato0> I'm having a problem with Banshee 1.2..... It can play everything I have except  .m4a   files  which  aren't protected by DRM.  Any help?
[18:33] <Gnea> mylesmadnes: wow, i remember that thing too... what driver are you using?
[18:33] <Siph0n> nicks, maybe try changing the bt3 gui instead? :)
[18:34] <danand> !resolution
[18:34] <mylesmadnes> how would you tell?
[18:34] <acrousey> gnea: it says couldn't find package mp321
[18:34] <eie> this the third week am trying to get an answer from here
[18:34] <phildbole> just upgrade like i tried before
[18:34] <eie> i wonder whats wrong with #ubuntu and skystar
[18:34] <Gnea> acrousey: mp*g*321
[18:34] <wishie> how can i restore my keyboard keysyms/mapping to the default that it was ? i cant use my left ctrl key at the moment
[18:34] <bazhang> nicks you can search for the packages.ubuntu.com tools
[18:34] <RequinB4> Trying to get my usb printer working - It is listed in lsusb, and it can't be found, so i went to the CUPS interface and found the 'location' input is blank.  How can I tell what to put in the location bar (actually, just learned it's easier through system - admin - printing)
[18:34] <nicks> Siph0n,aww.. :( thanks for the suggestion.. but I'm still Happy that ubuntu is now officially open source
[18:34] <eie> if i ask another question i'd get a reply in a sec
[18:34] <mylesmadnes> Gnea, how would I tell?
[18:35] <nicks> bazhang,lol it's a PITA to search for all of themm anyway thanks :)
[18:35] <eie> but for skystar i think its a taboo or something in ehre
[18:35] <joseph_cheah> ubottu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded doesn't help much
[18:35] <acrousey> thanks!
[18:35] <bazhang> nicks unless you have other questions, then please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:35] <joseph_cheah> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded this doesn't help much
[18:36] <mylesmadnes> Gnea, how would I tell what driver would I be using, Im used to windows xp?
[18:36] <danand> mylesmadnes - you could try setting your resolution using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ...
[18:36] <lordleemo> nicks: http://backtrack.offensive-security.com/index.php/Howto#Dual_boot_BackTrack_and_Ubuntu
[18:36] <mylesmadnes> danand, how would I do this?
[18:36] <cypherdelic> Does anyone know how do I load nvidia-settings -l before xserver to make it rendered with antialiasing
[18:36] <bazhang> joseph_cheah, #ubuntu-mobile
[18:36] <nicks> lordleemo,thanks
[18:37] <Gnea> mylesmadnes: gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[18:37] <RequinB4> Trying to get my usb printer working - It is listed in lsusb, and it can't be found, so i went to the CUPS interface and found the 'location' input is blank.  How can I tell what to put in the location bar (actually, just learned it's easier through system - admin - printing)
[18:37] <Muhammad_Saad> Hello, I want to install Ubuntu to my flash drive. For this purpose I have read the tutorial at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/08/usb-ubuntu-804-persistent-install-via-the-live-cd/ . No my question is that whether I can use ext2 file system in both partitions or not?
[18:37] <Carroarmato0> Having problems playing .m4a files in Banshee.
[18:38] <jonah> hey guys, i'm desperate for some help. i need to  do an oem install but there  is no option on the live cd menu i have - is there a way to still do an oem install with a livecd disc? i can't download another image etc
[18:38] <jonah> i'm selling the computer so need the new user to be able to put his/her details in etc
[18:38] <Gnea> !printing | RequinB4
[18:39] <mylesmadnes> Gnea, what does that do
[18:39] <magnetron> jonah, didn't you ask about this yesterday? someone asked, and i told them to do an OEM install
[18:39] <Gnea> mylesmadnes: run it and find out
[18:39] <Felix_Samuelsson> hi how do i remove xorg only using commands?
[18:40] <Gnea> ok, it's lunch time, bbl
[18:40] <mylesmadnes> erm who made voodoo
[18:40] <jonah> magnetron, yes that's right  but how do i do an oem install without the option on boot menu?
[18:40] <danand> mylesmadnes - type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal. This should ask you a bunch of questions about how you want X to be configured. You can stick to the default (or current) settings for most things. It should however ask you what resolution you want X to use. Set that to what ever you want. Be warned however - if you mess up you can screw up your X config... but unlikely you'd be that silly :)
[18:41] <Felix_Samuelsson> ah thanks allot
[18:41] <arthur_> if somone is trying to telnet, ftp or ssh to my computer is that goo?
[18:41] <danand> mylesmadnes - ATI??
[18:41] <arthur_> good
[18:41] <CShadowRun> Still stuck with my img file i'm trying to burn, it is most definatly a valid image. I've tried k3b, brasero, and ccd2iso. All 3 failed. Any more suggestions?
[18:41] <HeartLinux> goddamnit I can't get WoW to run with Cedega
[18:42] <HeartLinux> could someone help me? I am pretty darn desperate
[18:42] <danand> arthur_ - probably not...
[18:42] <CShadowRun> Preferably something that converts it to an iso so i can test it first.
[18:42] <DozedOnLinux> arthur_ just because the port is open doesnt mean they are doing that . run packet sniffer if you are in doubt
[18:42] <bazhang> HeartLinux, that is not an ubuntu issue; also no cursing here
[18:42] <mizipzor> i tried to compile a program from source but it says zlib.h is not found, so i guess that library isnt installed, i installed the package zlibc... but still the same error, what must i do? (its a c++ program btw, compiled with g++)
[18:42] <arthur_> it just shows up as a blocked connection on firestarter
[18:43] <danand> CShadowRun - type "file image_name" to see what kind of image file you havew
[18:43] <magnetron> jonah, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[18:43] <bazhang> HeartLinux, cedega is payware and thus has support forums etc. check those.
[18:43] <arthur_> is packet sniffer installed by default
[18:43] <jonah> magnetron, thanks man
[18:43] <arthur_> or do i have to apt-get install something?
[18:43] <magnetron> arthur_, no, but it is VERY easy to install it in ubuntu
[18:43] <CShadowRun> danand data
[18:43] <HeartLinux> bazhang I know it's not related to this but maybe someone could help me :)
[18:44] <danand> CShadowRun - hmmm :)
[18:44] <bazhang> HeartLinux, offtopic here so please stop.
[18:44] <magnetron> arthur_, tcpdump and wireshark are the most famous packet sniffers
[18:44] <CShadowRun> danand i know it's valid because it's an image of a playstation game, and pcsx (playstation emulator) can read it.
[18:44] <CShadowRun> but whatever i use to try and burn it, fails :(
[18:44] <DozedOnLinux> arthur_ search SPM for "sniffer" you should get the two mentioned )tcpdump and wireshark)
[18:45] <danand> CShadowRun - how did you create the image??
[18:45] <CShadowRun> danand i didn't :p
[18:45] <ga-ma> hi all anyone anderstand german or polish?
[18:45] <RequinB4> my printer was detected but how do i figure out the location: !printing is no help, it just tells me to put in the location
[18:45] <Fishscene> CShadowrun, I imagine that's because of copy-protection. A bit of corrupted data that can't be burned..
[18:45] <bazhang> ga-ma, which do you prefer
[18:45] <arthur_> how do i start tcpdump . its already installed?
[18:45] <Fishscene> Unless there's some kind of "raw" burning mode
[18:46] <CShadowRun> Fishscene but it works fine in the emulator
[18:46] <danand> CShadowRun - bah :) ... not sure how to proceed with that one then..
[18:46] <CShadowRun> danand :(
[18:46] <geirha> ga-ma: #ubuntu-de for german, #ubuntu-pl for polish.
[18:47] <Fishscene> CShadowRun. Correct.  (Built-in protections against burn failures). So for you to burn, I would think you would need a way to bypass those built-in protections.
[18:47] <bazhang> CShadowRun, this is a pirated image?
[18:47] <arthur_> or is wireshark the frontend?
[18:47] <Kasle> does anyone know how to sniff network?
[18:47] <CShadowRun> bazhang sorta, i have the original version of the game, but it died.
[18:47] <DozedOnLinux> arthur_ in terminal window type this for manual > man tcpdump
[18:47] <CShadowRun> so i downloaded a replacement.
[18:47] <danand> CShadowRun - you could try mounting the image using the loopback device... but not sure that would help you out with burning it to CD....
[18:47] <Muhammad_Saad> Hi, I want to install Ubuntu on my flash drive and I have read the tutorial at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/08/usb-ubuntu-804-persistent-install-via-the-live-cd/ . Can someone tell me whether I can use ext2 file system on both partitions or not? Will it cause any problem if I use ext2 on first partition instead of fat16?
[18:48] <mylesmadnes> danand, I ran the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it never asked me for a screen resolution
[18:48] <DozedOnLinux> arthur_ that will give you a list of commands and how you can use it, even then, wireshark may be easier to look at for new users.
[18:48] <Kasle> !ubuntu
[18:48] <Kasle> !network sniffer
[18:48] <CShadowRun> danand yea that wouldn't really help
[18:48] <magnetron> !msgthebot > Kasle
[18:48] <CShadowRun> hopefully nerolinux will solve my problems :)
[18:48] <Fishscene> Nero is my hero when it comes to making backup images.
[18:49] <mizipzor> i tried to compile a program from source but it says zlib.h is not found, so i guess that library isnt installed, i installed the package zlibc... but still the same error, what must i do? (its a c++ program btw, compiled with g++)
[18:49] <DozedOnLinux> Kasle : you can message Ubottu just like any other user. you can do the same things in Ubottu's msg window like !firewall or like. /msg Ubottu works as well
[18:50] <sweethase> hallo zusammen
[18:50] <qr_> mizipzor: you probably need zlibc-dev or a similarly named -dev package
[18:50] <geirha> !de | sweethase
[18:50] <mizipzor> qr_: thanks, ill look into it
[18:50] <qr_> mizipzor: .h files generally come in -dev packages
[18:51] <danand> mylesmadnes - try dpkg-reconfigure --priority=low xserver-xorg
[18:51] <MermaidMan> is jfs robost?
[18:51] <mizipzor> qr_: seems to compile fine so far :)
[18:52] <shane_> the text of my username/password input is extremely small in my login window (im using the ubuntu studio thing) and when i goto "Login Window" preferences it wont open
[18:52] <mylesmadnes> danand, I get "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root"
[18:53] <danand> mylesmadnes - sorry - sudo dpkg-reconfigure --priority=low xserver-xorg
[18:53] <zod21> whats up fellas
[18:54] <_nighty7_> http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/5273499/ SPENDE IMMER ZURÜCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:55] <mylesmadnes> danand, still never asked me
[18:55] <thejosephgrace> This channel seems to be very little talking, and a lot of people joining and leaving.
[18:55] <tomaw> _nighty7_: please don't paste pennergame links on freenode
[18:55] <flooper> Hey - annyone here to help?... my USB 2.0 has got a very low transferrate... it seems to be around 1.0 MB/s - while i in 6.04 an onwords had up to 30 MB/s transfer rate... I've searched the forum, and found a solution, wich helped in some sort of way, it has made the transferrate stable at 1.0 instead of decreasing from 30... it was adding a line to the grub menu.lst
[18:56] <flooper> annyone got a possible soulution?
[18:56] <qr_> thejosephgrace: it's a much more pleasent place if you turn off join/part messages
[18:56] <danand> mylesmadnes - :( hmmm... that used to work on Debian ....
[18:56] <jinxx> lalala :)
[18:56] <danand> !resolution | mylesmadnes
[18:56] <jinxx> can anybody tell me if there's any point to encrypting my desktop's hard drive, and, if so, what partitions are encrypted using the guided LVM encryption in the Ubuntu setup?
[18:56] <DozedOnLinux> i dont even want to know what that is
[18:56] <billybigrigger> hey all, good morning, i have a quick question....what would be better for remote admin on my headless machine, x over ssh, vnc, or freenx??? from what i've read so far, which is not much, freenx is the best way to go for speed, im using vnc right now and its pretty slow, even on my local lan, so is x over ssh or freenx any better?
[18:56] <RussianPhysicsGu> Hi, I'm trying to get Sibelius (a music transcription program) to run through wine. I've installed it using the .NET Environment and Visual C++ Runtime Libraries available through Winetricks, but when I try to run it, I get "R6034, An application has made an attempt to load the C Runtime Library incorrectly." Running from Terminal gives me these three lines - fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent asse
[18:56] <RussianPhysicsGu> err:module:attach_process_dlls "MSVCR80.dll" failed to initialize, aborting
[18:56] <RussianPhysicsGu> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\Program Files\\Sibelius Software\\Sibelius 5\\Sibelius.exe" failed, status c0000142
[18:56] <RussianPhysicsGu> Does anyone have any ideas or experience with this? Thanks
[18:56] <FloodBot1> RussianPhysicsGu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:56] <danand> mylesmadnes - best i can do now ^^ :)
[18:57] <mylesmadnes> danand, I'll try
[18:57] <snmpee_> jinxx: well, you should always encrypt your hard drive so if your computer is stolen, nobody has your data. also if it's taken by law enforcement they will have a hard time decrypting 2048 bit AES
[18:58] <_nighty7_> http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/5273499/
[18:58] <qr_> RussianPhysicsGu: you might try asking in #wine, they'll probably be able to give you more help than people here
[18:58] <RussianPhysicsGu> qr_: Thanks, I didn't know that channel, I'll try there
[18:58] <platyhelminth> http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fondecran2chevauxpk1.jpg
[18:58] <magnetron> qr_, RussianPhysicsGu it's called #winehq
[18:58] <jinxx> ok, so what partitions are encrypted?  just root and swap?
[18:58] <snmpee_> jinxx all of them i believe
[18:58] <newb> hi i'm having issues with wireless networking. the network isn't showing up in my network applet. i'm using a linksys wrt45g router.
[18:58] <snmpee_> jinxx except for swap
[18:58] <newb> can anyone help? the network applet isn't reliable
[18:59] <qr_> RussianPhysicsGu: my mistake, magnetron has the correct channel name
[18:59] <jinxx> ok cool, ty snmpee_ :)
[18:59] <RussianPhysicsGu> magnetron: thanks, #wine was invite-only, that helped :-D
[18:59] <snmpee_> np
[18:59] <jinxx> *off to format and encrypt hdd* :D
[18:59] <ompaul> RussianPhysicsGu, #winehq
[18:59] <snmpee_> yes, encrypt those hard drives
[18:59] <Aline> hii
[19:00] <snmpee_> just don't forget your password!
[19:00] <anto9us> newb, is the essid set to visible on the router? if not you can tell net manager to connect to other wireless network and give it the essid
[19:00] <eie> Hello, Can anyone help me install SkyStar 2? SkyStar 2 TV PCI is a PCI card to receive digital TV- and radio programs via satellite http://www.technisat.com/index381f.html?nav=PC_products,en,76-174 ... i tried googling but with no good results
[19:00] <newb> anto9us: essid is visible. my router broadcasts it's ssid all the time.
[19:00] <Aline> Oii Oii Oiii
[19:00] <snmpee_> newb you should fix that
[19:01] <bazhang> Aline, english please
[19:01] <Aline> speaks portuguese ?
[19:01] <bazhang> !pt
[19:01] <newb> snmpee_: why?
[19:01] <shane_> flooper: are you transfer several small files
[19:01] <bazhang> Aline, /join #ubuntu-br or #ubuntu-pt
[19:01] <Aline> ??
[19:01] <snmpee_> newb don't broadcast your ssid man, why would you make a wardriver's job easier?
[19:02] <newb> snmpee_: ok... but i have mac filters
[19:02] <anto9us> newb, does ifconfig list your wireless adaptor?
[19:02] <snmpee_> lol a mac filter can be faked using macchanger
[19:02] <ompaul> !br | Aline
[19:02] <newb> anto9us: hmmm it lists wlan0
[19:02] <Mr_Bad_News> whats the name of an app that converts text into a pdf?
[19:02] <flooper> shane_ Its not depending one the filesize.. tried both multiple large files (1gb+), single large, and multiple small (4mb and downwoards)
[19:02] <anto9us> newb, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[19:02] <Aline> como assim uburtu -br ?
[19:02] <TiredWolf> Mr_Bad_News, openoffice can save to PDF, and so can KOffice
[19:03] <billybigrigger> can someone tell me what is the fastest, most secure way of remote administering a headless machine?
[19:03] <TiredWolf> Aline: escribe /join #ubuntu-br
[19:03] <qr_> billybigrigger: ssh
[19:03] <magnetron> billybigrigger, ssh
[19:03] <billybigrigger> x over ssh?
[19:03] <magnetron> billybigrigger, just SSH is faster
[19:03] <newb> anto9us: it's getting a blank ESSID
[19:03] <billybigrigger> yeah i already have an ssh server running
[19:04] <billybigrigger> but for a gui...????
[19:04] <shane_> flooper: those look like usb 1.1 rates
[19:04] <ridethefire122> hey any of you internetgangstas know where I can find a nowplaying plugin for xchat?
[19:04] <snmpee_> newb you'd better be using W2PA because a wardriver can use a chopchop attack to read raw packet headers, get the mac address of the client, dupe the address, and there you go.
[19:04] <magnetron> billybigrigger, you asked for the fastest.
[19:04] <qr> billybigrigger: generally you don't use a gui to administer a remote server
[19:04] <qr> billybigrigger: but you can start X programs over ssh if you connect with ssh -X
[19:04] <Mr_Bad_News> k thanks TiredWolf
[19:04] <anto9us> newb, did you try connect to other wireless network and provide essid?
[19:05] <newb> anto9us: yea it was working well at my office.
[19:05] <Lesergi> hi all
[19:05] <magnetron> billybigrigger, you can install a webinterface for administering the server, if you really refuse to type any commands. it will not be as fast, though, and it will a lot less secure.
[19:05] <Lesergi> is there any alternative to kaffeine in order to view DVB-T?
[19:05] <newb> snmpee_: trust me there isn't anyone else using a wireless lan here for miles!!
[19:05] <magnetron> billybigrigger, if you want something that's fast and secure, use SSH.
[19:05] <billybigrigger> magnetron, no its not that, im not afraid on the cl, i use it all the time, just nice to be able to run my x sessions when im away from home
[19:05] <Mr_Bad_News> anyone have a resume template that looks professional i can have?
[19:06] <snmpee_> newb then no problem
[19:06] <TiredWolf> !dvb | Lesergi
[19:06] <padlefopt> just me who cant apt-get update?
[19:06] <wols_> billybigrigger: for that you need vnc
[19:06] <magnetron> billybigrigger, you are looking for the "screen" command
[19:06] <biouser> has anyone had any luck installing and running CITRIX with the newer firefox and hardy?
[19:06] <ridethefire122> hey any of you internetgangstas know where I can find a nowplaying plugin for xchat?
[19:06] <padlefopt> security.ubuntu.com doesnt wanna update
[19:06] <billybigrigger> ok, in your guys/girls??? opinion what is faster and more secure, x over ssh, vnc, or an nx server?\
[19:06] <flooper> shane_ I know.. But only 8.04 does this... tryed the 7.10 again... and i works fine.. same goes for suse and fedora
[19:06] <Teisei> ridethefire122: Try this http://xchat.org/cgi-bin/script_list.pl/
[19:06] <Teisei> See if you can find something useful there
[19:06] <Vi5in> hello
[19:06] <flooper> only 8.04 happens to do some random HW havok
[19:06] <ompaul> !repeat | ridethefire122
[19:07] <Vi5in> I tried going to #kubuntu, but it seems rather silent... :p so I was wondering if someone here could help me
[19:07] <bazhang> ridethefire122, best not to ever use that plugin in here
[19:07] <Vi5in> I'm using a kubuntu livecd to recover some data using foremost
[19:07] <ssam> billybigrigger, x over ssh, or vnc over ssh
[19:07] <ompaul> ridethefire122, be aware a lot of channels will ban you for that kind of thing
[19:07] <ridethefire122> :P no kidding
[19:07] <Vi5in> I'm doing sudo foremost -t jpg < /dev/sda1 but it says /dev/sda1: permission denied
[19:07] <qr> billybigrigger: it depends what you want to do, if you want a remote desktop use vnc, if you just want to run a few graphical programs then X over ssh is easier IMO
[19:07] <anto9us> billybigrigger, forward vnc port and run vnc-client locally with ssh -X -C -L 5900:localhost:5900
[19:07] <Vi5in> any idea how I can get it to use /dev/sda1?
[19:07] <billybigrigger> ssam, im using strictly vnc right now and it seems kind of sluggish even over my lan
[19:07] <Teisei> bazhang: There _are_ other channels on IRC
[19:08] <padlefopt> listen, i cant get security.ubuntu.com to update with apt.. is it just me?
[19:08] <anto9us> billybigrigger, or maybe port 5901, depending how vncserver is run
[19:08] <ssam> billybigrigger, vnc seems to handle high latancy better than x forwarding
[19:08] <TiredWolf> Vi5in, it's not a Kubuntu-specific problem, so there is no problem at all asking here (nor there is in general, for that matter).
[19:08] <billybigrigger> 5901 i have it setup to run on
[19:08] <l337ingDisorder> how do I find out what version of ubu I'm running? (32-bit vs 64-bit, that is)
[19:08] <TiredWolf> Vi5in: anyway, the problem is that "sudo" and "<" don't go well together
[19:08] <hyw> can anyone help? am not asking to ask am asking because no one replies to me
[19:08] <ssam> billybigrigger, vnc has a --via option that tunnels through ssh automatically
[19:08] <bazhang> Teisei, aye; just thought I would give him fair warning :)
[19:08] <samuraj> l337ingDisorder: uname -a
[19:09] <l337ingDisorder> hyw: can't answer that unless we know what we need to help you with :)
[19:09] <anto9us> billybigrigger, forward vnc port and run vnc-client locally with ssh -X -C -L 5901:localhost:5901, open a new terminal window on your local machine and connect vnc to localhost:5901
[19:09] <TiredWolf> Vi5in: i've never used foremost. does it actually require the use of "<"? can't it just take the device name as a parameter? if not, try: sudo sh -c "foremost ... < ..."
[19:09] <l337ingDisorder> samuaj: thanks :)
[19:09] <dEagLE> hi all
[19:09] <bazhang> hyw, what is the issue
[19:09] <samuraj> l337ingDisorder: np ;)
[19:09] <TiredWolf> Vi5in: or, you could always type "sudo -i", which gives you a root shell, and then use foremost from there without sudo.
[19:09] <dEagLE> how to view webcam in ubuntu
[19:09] <TiredWolf> !webcam > dEagLE
[19:10] <Vi5in> TiredWolf: yes, it only works off an image
[19:10] <hyw> bazhang: I want to install SKyStar2 TV PCI card
[19:10] <Vi5in> TiredWolf: but thanks, I will try sudo -i!
[19:10] <bazhang> hyw, do the forums have anything about this?
[19:10] <Vi5in> TiredWolf: awesome - that's working!
[19:10] <bazhang> hyw, does it work with linux at all?
[19:10] <TiredWolf> Vi5in: generally speaking, if you need to access a file that you don't have permission to using redirection (< or > or |), you can't do that with plain sudo
[19:11] <hyw> bazhang: i found some are for other distros and only 1 for ubuntu which doesnt work
[19:11] <billybigrigger> k thanks for the help guys, im gonna go get some brain food and give this vnc via ssh tunnel a try, thanks again for the help :)
[19:11] <hyw> bazhang: http://www.google.ae/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.technisat.com%2Findex381f.html%3Fnav%3DPC_products%2Cen%2C76-174&ei=FUaXSL6TJ4S-wQHzu4yXBg&usg=AFQjCNF-6ePLxIFCgk7854CaH8ktu7wzOA&sig2=H6kRTNNFfA3gBQ9K5jAt5w
[19:11] <MrCraig> hi all
[19:11] <hyw> ops
[19:11] <Vi5in> TiredWolf: that's what I figured because the sudo only extends to that current command? I think it's weird that foremost doesn't support direct device access. it says it only works off an image
[19:11] <hyw> bazhang: http://www.technisat.com/index381f.html?nav=PC_products,en,76-174
[19:11] <Yamaneko> does someone know how to play .rmvb? what i have to do?
[19:12] <nemo> nsISound interface to nsSound in Firefox appears to use esound for playing wavs.
[19:12] <bobertdos> MrCraig: Hello, how may we help you?
[19:12] <TiredWolf> Vi5in, then in theory it shouldn't work with "<", either...
[19:12] <hyw> bazhang: and this http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Hardware/Installing_Skystar_2_in_Linux
[19:12] <nemo> one addon I'm using, c4c, uses this for notifications
[19:12] <ssam> Vi5in, the rootsudo page has info about redirecting streams
[19:12] <bobertdos> !medibuntu > nemo
[19:12] <Moose1981> HI everyone
[19:12] <nemo> under ubuntu hardy, I get a hiss of static, which I blame on esd
[19:12] <hyw> bazhang: also this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=683661
[19:12] <TiredWolf> Vi5in, in any case, if the hard drive is physically damaged, you *really* should take an image of it and then never touch the actual drive
[19:12] <Vi5in> TiredWolf: well.. it seems to be running now. if you don't supply foremost any arguments, it just takes data from stdin
[19:12] <bazhang> hyw, seems that some others do in fact support it; checking on ubuntu now
[19:12] <MrCraig> hi bobertdos :-)  Well if you could tell me how to do a disk check on my data drive /sdc1  would be helpful - I try fschk from the command line but can't find the tool
[19:12] <Moose1981> New to Ubuntu and IRC,, go me
[19:13] <Vi5in> TiredWolf: Oh, the drive isn't damaged.  Once my system has been up for a day things start going wrong - Firefox refuses to open, Terminal crashes on load. Can I fix this behaviour?
[19:13] <hyw> bazhang: its the most popular tv pci card in the world
[19:13] <bad_alloc> hi, i've got a rather basic question: how do i connect to a server that isnt in my server list (xchat)
[19:13] <nemo> I'm trying to find information on esound possibly playing an ordinary 16bit wav as static
[19:14] <qr> bad_alloc: /server theserveraddress should work
[19:14] <nemo> here is the firefox code:
[19:14] <nemo> http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/widget/src/gtk2/nsSound.cpp
[19:14] <Vi5in> TiredWolf: yup, that's why I put in the livecd as soon as i could. it's mainly pictures taht I'm looking for. i hope most of them have survived
[19:14] <xdcx> having some trouble with wireless here (not really a surprise). i have the ipw2200 drivers installed (comes with hardy, right?) but i see nothing in iwconfig
[19:14] <Yamaneko> does someone know how to play .rmvb? what i have to do? (for gutsy ribbon)
[19:14] <xdcx> lol, ribbon
[19:14] <Vi5in> heh ribbon :p
[19:14] <bazhang> hyw which version? 2.7 or other
[19:14] <bobertdos> MrCraig: The best way to force a check is on bootup. This is accomplished by typing: sudo tune2fs -c 2 -C 1 /dev/sdc1 into the terminal and rebooting.
[19:15] <Vi5in> TiredWolf: thanks for the help once again!
[19:15] <dEagLE> i have connected my webcam  but i'm unable to view it
[19:15] <MrCraig> thanks bob
[19:15] <arooni> with compiz fusion + screenlets, nearly 1GB of memory is used on ubuntu hardy (geforce fx 7950).  questions: (1) when my available memory is < 100MB and no swap is being used, things start *crawling* and it seems like the system might lock up... is this normal?  (2) is there a way to have compiz-fusion take up less than about 1G of memory but still have screenlets?  thanks!
[19:15] <john_> is this the only chat room available
[19:15] <bobertdos> !medibuntu | Yamaneko
[19:15] <xdcx> john_: no
[19:15] <HelgeS> Is it easy to download a package in source format, and then compile it myself? Perhaps with a *.deb as the result? Where can I learn how to do it?
[19:15] <Moose1981> Hey, anyone know why my webcam on cheesy flickers really bad?
[19:15] <blackout> Hello all
[19:15] <blackout> Can anyone tell me how to update from 7.10 to 8.04
[19:15] <magnetron> !irc > john_
[19:16] <hyw> bazhang: I wonder where those guys got theh 2.7 version from as it just says skystar2 pci tv
[19:16] <xdcx> having some trouble with wireless here (not really a surprise). i have the ipw2200 drivers installed (comes with hardy, right?) but i see nothing in iwconfig
[19:16] <biouser> Warning: No font found.
[19:16] <biouser> Warning:
[19:16] <biouser>     Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING
[19:16] <biouser>     Class: XmRendition
[19:16] <biouser>     Conversion failed.  Cannot load font.
[19:16] <FloodBot1> biouser: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:16] <TiredWolf> Vi5in, if it's pictures, then you could also try another program called "photorec" (contained in the "testdisk" package) which is specific for pictures. have you checked this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[19:16] <RequinB4> lsusb and printing "sees" my printer, but It won't connect (hplip sees a connection prolbem and test page stalls)
[19:16] <ekimus> anybody knows wether the ubuntu-xen-server works in hardy i found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xen-3.2/+bug/204010 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/218126 which doesn't exactly sound like using it is possible (no network in dom0 according to those bugs)
[19:16] <Yamaneko> ubottu: thank you
[19:16] <Vi5in> TiredWolf: oh cool! no I haven't actually, I'll take a look at that! thanks ab unch
[19:16] <bobertdos> MrCraig: You'll want to set -c to 0 and -C to something like 30 when you're done so that it doesn't check every time.
[19:16] <biouser> anyone know where I can get the fonts so that I won't see that message?
[19:17] <blackout> Can anyone PM me with how I can update from 7.10 (kubuntu) to 8.04 (kubuntu) guessing the GUI wouldn't change the command...
[19:17] <Yamaneko> ubottu: hahah.... really? XD
[19:17] <RequinB4> Yamaneko: yes
[19:17] <phantomas> when i open my tvtime it shows no signal... my tv card is AVerMedia AverTV Hybrid+FM PCI A16AR please help me
[19:17] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=683661 hyw this thread reports success for 2.6 and 2.7
[19:17] <RequinB4> lsusb and printing "sees" my printer, but It won't connect (hplip sees a connection prolbem and test page stalls)
[19:17] <MrCraig> :-) bobertdos
[19:17] <hyw> bazhang: SDK 1.13 (10/2007) thats all the info I can get from their website
[19:17] <Ketsuban> Sorry for doubleposting this, but it's really quite serious since it's actively preventing me using my system completely. Once my system has been up for a day things start going wrong - Firefox refuses to open, Terminal crashes on load. X-Chat is the only program I have open, and if I close it I will lose the ability to use it completely. Can I fix this behaviour?
[19:17] <Yamaneko> *n00b*
[19:18] <Ketsuban> I really don't want to reboot every day to keep my system working.
[19:18] <xdcx> having some trouble with wireless here (not really a surprise). i have the ipw2200 drivers installed (comes with hardy, right?) but i see nothing in iwconfig
[19:18] <phantomas> when i open my tvtime it shows no signal... my tv card is AVerMedia AverTV Hybrid+FM PCI A16AR please help me
[19:18] <Gillpy> When using screen some apps dont work, saying they need a proper linux console, Is there a work around ?
[19:19] <anto9us> Ketsuban, my first guess would be a hardware fault causing the problem, maybe overheating, is the processor fan working ok?
[19:19] <jazzkutya> Ketsuban: do you have firefox open when this occurs?
[19:19] <Ketsuban> jazzkutya: No. anto9us: seems to be.
[19:19] <mkquist__> blackout: www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-to-ubuntu-804-lts-hardy-heron.html
[19:20] <hyw> bazhang: someone said in ubuntu forums that all i have to do is sudo modprobe b2c2-flexcop-pci and sudo modprobe stv0299 and useKaffeine to play it.. but no replies  in the terminal after i typed those commands
[19:20] <phantomas> ikonia: i found what is the name of my tv card can you help me now?
[19:20] <nixnoob_> is it possible to take a screeny of my running desktop from a ssh connection?
[19:20] <phantomas> or anyone please help me
[19:20] <backuup> hello, I am in the live cd, is there a way to refresh or probe for new hardware?  I have an external enclosure with an OLD! hdd that I want to backup.
[19:20] <jazzkutya> Ketsuban: keep a terminal open and wait until this happens again, then start another terminal or any other app from the already open terminal. this way you will see the error message
[19:21] <phantomas> when i open my tvtime it shows no signal... my tv card is AVerMedia AverTV Hybrid+FM PCI A16AR please help me
[19:21] <backuup> phantomas are you trying to find the name or doyou have it?
[19:21] <bazhang> hyw, that is for 2.6; 2.7 is another matter from what the forums say
[19:21] <phantomas> backuup: i am trying to make my card work ... i already have the name
[19:21] <Ketsuban> jazzkutya: The problem is it's not something which just goes away. I'm currently in it, and I'd really like to deal with it so I don't have to reboot all the time. If it went away of its own accord I'd happily do that.
[19:21] <phantomas> backuup:  my tv card is AVerMedia AverTV Hybrid+FM PCI A16AR
[19:21] <xdcx> having some trouble with wireless here (not really a surprise). i have the ipw2200 drivers installed (comes with hardy, right?) but i see nothing in iwconfig
[19:21] <hyw> bazhang: I wonder what 2.6 or 2.7 stand for as there is only 1 product which is called skystar2 pci tv
[19:22] <jazzkutya> Ketsuban: maybe you can try this already from x-chat: /exec gnome-terminal or something
[19:22] <anto9us> backuup, it should be automatic, you can see what's detected after connection if you type dmesg
[19:22] <Kattman> I found a driver for a camera, but it says "Due to the obsolescence of the Video4Linux1 API, Linux 2.6.18 is the last
[19:22] <Kattman> supported version of the kernel." will it work with the current linux kernel ?
[19:22] <nixnoob_> is it possible to take a screeny of my running desktop from a ssh connection? sorry for repeat I just got dropped from my ssh session
[19:22] <nemo> hm
[19:22] <nemo> [AO ESD] esd_open_sound failed: No such file or directory
[19:22] <bazhang> hyw, two different chipsets apparently; the second you have to compile the drivers for
[19:22] <nemo> well. that could suggest why firefox can't play a wav...
[19:22] <phantomas> backuup: can you help me?
[19:22] <Ketsuban> jazzkutya: No error message AFAICT from using /exec.
[19:23] <hyw> bazhang: hmm probably because one is chinese or from taiwan and the other one is german
[19:23] <phantomas> anyone???
[19:23] <phantomas> when i open my tvtime it shows no signal... my tv card is AVerMedia AverTV Hybrid+FM PCI A16AR
[19:23] <jazzkutya> Ketsuban: try /exec xterm if this happens to success you can try starting other things from it and see the error message
[19:24] <Moose1981> Alright, I have a question, when running some programs and my webcam it flickers badly, any reason for this?
[19:24] <anto9us> phantomas, is that card a dvb card and are you sure tvtime supports dvb?
[19:24] <jazzkutya> Ketsuban: otherwise my only advice is reboot and keep a terminal open for next time it happens
[19:24] <phantomas> anto9us: it is analogue dvb and fm radio
[19:24] <Ketsuban> jazzkutya: xterm works.
[19:24] <jazzkutya> Ketsuban: okay try start gnome-terminal
[19:25] <phantomas> anto9us: but nothing works
[19:25] <backuup> phantomas have you seen this http://mcentral.de/wiki/index.php5/Main_Page  I'm not good w/ tv cards, but the linuxtv.org site helps!
[19:25] <Ketsuban> jazzkutya: I did. Still no error message.
[19:25] <pasteeater> When I compile x264 from source it installs the dev files, libraries, and binary.  I do I get it to replace both the x264 and libx264-dev packages?
[19:25] <pasteeater> I'm using checkinstall.
[19:25] <jazzkutya> Ketsuban: did you get back a prompt without any message?
[19:25] <ninix> is the "radeon" driver support dual screen ?
[19:25] <phantomas> i have seen it but still i cant configure it
[19:25] <Ketsuban> It opened the gnome-terminal window which hung instantly.
[19:26] <Moose1981> radeon for me has problems
[19:26] <xdcx> having some trouble with wireless here (not really a surprise). i have the ipw2200 drivers installed (comes with hardy, right?) but i see nothing in iwconfig
[19:26] <Moose1981> nice screen flickers
[19:26] <Ketsuban> No errors on the console, just "Killed" when I force-quitted.
[19:26] <remoteCTRL> does anyone know a cd ripper that supports mp3 format?
[19:26] <phantomas> anto9us: backuup any ideas?
[19:26] <anto9us> phantomas, http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Avermedia
[19:26] <nemo> oh. unrelated error. I can play the wav just fine with mplayer -ao esd -  I just need to be playing it as a user in audio group (oops)
[19:26] <nemo> hm. so back to why firefox is failing.
[19:27] <Ahadiel> nixnoob_, Yes it is possible. sudo apt-get install scrot, then from the ssh connection do: DISPLAY=:0.0 scrot
[19:27] <nemo> perhaps the wav decoder just sucks
[19:27] <phantomas> anto9us: i ve seen that
[19:27] <jazzkutya> Ketsuban: check resources from the xterm, like df -h and free -m
[19:27] <phantomas> but i still cant configure it
[19:27] <jazzkutya> Ketsuban: and the last few lines of dmesg can be helpful too
[19:28] <RequinB4> how can i get THIS application on hardy: http://www.eioba.com/a2276/printing_with_ubuntu
[19:28] <Ketsuban> jazzkutya: According to this I have only 100MB of memory free.
[19:28] <Moose1981> Anyone know why when I run Cheesy the video flickers?
[19:28] <Moose1981> Cheese*
[19:28] <xdcx> having some trouble with wireless here (not really a surprise). i have the ipw2200 drivers installed (comes with hardy, right?) but i see nothing in iwconfig
[19:28] <jazzkutya> Ketsuban: watch the second line that starts with +/- buffers but 100MB free should be already okay
[19:28] <anto9us> phantomas, ok, I'd suggest tryin ubuntu forums, my guess is you'll be lucky to get support for such a specific issue in IRC
[19:29] <sexcopter> are there any users of qbittorrent here? I can't seem to get the latest update authenticated in the updater, added the gpg key from the website with no errors.
[19:29] <phantomas> anto9us: there are many topics in forums for the SAME card but none of them ends with a solution
[19:30] <linkmaster03> I installed Editra 0.2.29 through the Ubuntu Repos, and when I try to install 0.3.15 from the source through setup.py install, it goes without a  hitch, except, when I run 'editra' it boots the old version.
[19:30] <phantomas> so i came here...
[19:30] <linkmaster03> Any help/
[19:30] <linkmaster03> ?
[19:30] <xdcx> having some trouble with wireless here (not really a surprise). i have the ipw2200 drivers installed (comes with hardy, right?) but i see nothing in iwconfig
[19:30] <xdcx> anyone ;_;
[19:30] <jazzkutya> Ketsuban: and try starting other apps from the xterm, like gthumb, xv
[19:30] <nixnoob_> Ahadiel: where does it save the image to?
[19:30] <jazzkutya> Ketsuban: and firefox
[19:31] <Ahadiel> nixnoob_, To whatever your current directory is.
[19:31] <Ketsuban> jazzkutya: firefox just hangs until I hit Ctrl-C.
[19:31] <remoteCTRL> linkmaster03: that louncher is obviously pointing to a different binary then the one you mean to start
[19:31] <anto9us> phantomas, I'd still suggest you'd have more hope there or on launchpad than here
[19:31] <phantomas> anto9us: yes i can see it :p
[19:31] <dj_oko> linkmaster03: sudo updatedb
[19:31] <phantomas> anyway thank you
[19:31] <nixnoob_> Ahadiel: nothing shows up what is the filename supposed to be?
[19:31] <dj_oko> locate editra
[19:32] <dj_oko> yeah...
[19:32] <dj_oko> not at all
[19:32] <Ahadiel> nixnoob_, By default the file ends in scrot.png
[19:32] <Ahadiel> nixnoob_, date_time_scrot.png
[19:32] <xdcx> Wireless on Hardy isn't working. Ubuntu recognizes the card and the driver shows up, but when i run iwconfig, only my wired connection shows
[19:32] <linkmaster03> remoteCTRL: Should I try sudo rm /usr/bin/editra and reinstall?
[19:33] <Gnea> !wireless
[19:33] <nixnoob_> Ahadiel: ahh I had to specify a filename now its there, thank you
[19:33] <xdcx> yeah, that didn't do anything
[19:33] <Ahadiel> nixnoob_, yup, np
[19:33] <jazzkutya> Ketsuban: can you start xman? xmag?
[19:33] <Gnea> xdcx: what exactly is the problem then?
[19:34] <Hans-Martin> !xen
[19:34] <xdcx> Gnea: the driver is loaded and the card is turned on, but ubuntu doesnt seem to recognize it
[19:34] <Gnea> xdcx: you've restated your problem, not provided any details.
[19:35] <dj_oko> does anybody know will new Ubunut include PackageKit?
[19:35] <dj_oko> *Ubuntu ;)
[19:35] <dj_oko> it seems to be "suggested"
[19:35] <tazz> what/where would be the best way to download ubuntu hardy repository dvd isos?
[19:36] <Jack_Sparrow> dj_oko ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:36] <Pici> tazz: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04.1/release/
[19:36] <xdcx> Gnea: i run xdcx@breaky:~$ sudo lsmod | grep ipw
[19:36] <Greenbear> hello
[19:36] <Gnea> xdcx: who made the card? is there a model number? what sort of interface does it use to connect to the computer? what is the interface name that shows up in ip l? what driver is it using? what driver should it be using?
[19:37] <tazz> Pici, are you sure its the entire hardy repository? because its just 3.7 gb
[19:37] <xdcx> it's an intel 2915abg, internal pci (laptop), nothing shows up for it in ip l, it's using ipw2200, ipw2200
[19:37] <Greenbear> is it possible that i can make my own translation for ubuntu?
[19:37] <Gnea> xdcx: an output from dmesg would be helpful as well, pastebin
[19:37] <xdcx> k
[19:37] <RandyboY> Anyone here familiar with pidgin? Is there any way to close chat-windows with esc-button?
[19:37] <Gnea> xdcx: and the make/model of the laptop?
[19:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Greenbear Yes it could be possible.  But this is the wrong place for information about HOW to do it
[19:38] <remoteCTRL> linkmaster03: nope i wouldnt do that, i suggest you primarily dont install things that are not in the repos cos that can go very wrong...
[19:38] <xdcx> gnea: lenovo 3000 c100
[19:38] <Greenbear> ohh....,
[19:39] <Pici> tazz: No, its not the entire repositories.  I don't believe there is an easily downloadable file of every file in the repos.
[19:39] <Greenbear> where is the right place then jack_sparrow?
[19:39] <remoteCTRL> linkmaster03: second you gotta have another binary that is called something similar, just change the line in the launcher accordingly
[19:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Greenbear That is for you to research and decide for yourself.
[19:39] <remoteCTRL> can anyone tell me why i cant choose mp3 codec in sound-juicers properties?
[19:39] <Greenbear> :\
[19:39] <linkmaster03> remoteCTRL: lol, there is totally absolutely nothing wrong from compiling programs outside of the repo. i found that editra was saving to /usr/bin/Editra and /usr/bin/editra was the old version
[19:39] <remoteCTRL> its there but i cant pick it
[19:40] <tazz> ah i see, i was thinking of have the repository in dvds as i will be away from the internet for a while.
[19:40] <Hans-Martin> I'd like to install XEN on my hardy heron machine, but the package dependencies seem to be mixed up. (package linux-xen requires linux-restricted-modules-xen version <IP_ADDRESS>.21 which is not available)
[19:40] <remoteCTRL> rofl
[19:40] <Greenbear> I got it, #ubuntu-translators
[19:40] <Hans-Martin> does anyone know what the scoop is with ubuntu and XEN?
[19:41] <remoteCTRL> Hans-Martin: what ya mean by scoop?