[15:38] <soee_> VIDIA 384.69 Linux Driver Released With A Few Fixes
[15:38] <soee_> *NVIDIA
[16:53] <mamarley> soee: I was expecting that would come out early this week. :)
[18:10] <soee> :D


[22:41] <sebsebseb> Jamesth: You don't want Ext3 for your final install, you want Ext4
[22:41] <dale> I want /home/dale/dotfiles/.emacs to appear as /home/dale/.emacs
[22:41] <nyne> tem ubuntu em portugues? muito bom!!! hehe
[22:41] <lupine_85> dale: you need to make one symlink per dotfile
[22:41] <dale> but for everything that is in /home/dale/dotfiles
[22:41] <secc> dale, you need to symlink each individually
[22:41] <Jamesth> sebsebseb: that's fine, I have ext4 atm..
[22:41] <sebsebseb> Jamesth: and setting up a seperate home this time is good as well
[22:41] <WLU> lupine_85: I ahve installed just now mingw32-binutils is that good enough
[22:41] <erUSUL> !br | nyne
[22:41] <RobMcMahon> Is there anyone in Columbus, OH interested in setting up a LUG?
[22:41] <lupine_85> or write a custom fuse... thing
[22:41] <dale> ok, cheers, that kinda sucks
[22:41] <sebsebseb> !pt |  nyne
[22:41] <Pygmalion> How do I get changelog of a package? Like I want to know what has been changed between one update and another?
[22:41]  * lupine_85 wouldn't recommend the second
[22:41] <nyne> ubottu hehe okay bot
[22:41] <erUSUL> !oh
[22:41] <trism> yoritomo: I couldn't find very much documentation on ibus, anything I figured out so far was through trial and error and what little information I could find on the ibus site
[22:41] <lupine_85> filesystems and mixins just don't.... mix
[22:41] <dale> since new files obviously wont work
[22:41] <joeyeye> anyone have success in getting better than 800x600 with a headless ubuntu over vinagre ?
[22:42] <hbx__> anyone know if i can install from usb using x64 iso on a thumbdrive?
[22:42] <sebsebseb> !oh yeah
[22:42] <nyne> sebsebseb ?
[22:42] <sebsebseb> nyne: What?
[22:42] <n8tuser> hbx__-> i believed you can.
[22:43] <mars_> Hi people.
[22:43] <Paullo_> I try to install my graphic video in Ubuntu and after i rebot the screens come black and i cant see nothing,some one can help me?
[22:43] <dale> git init && git pull mygitrepo worked, but no commit
[22:43] <RobMcMahon> hi mars
[22:43] <caseyd> hey-o, how do I enable mod_rewrite for the default web installed with apache2 in ubuntu. I copied rewrite.load from mods-available to mods- enabled .. didnt work
[22:43] <rictec> Paulo try boot option vesa
[22:43] <mars_> Can anyone tell me if there is kind-of-automatic way to upgrade from ubuntu 8.04 to latest release?
[22:43] <erUSUL> caseyd: probably a link is what is needed
[22:43] <lupine_85> caseyd: you need to link both the .load and .conf to mods-enabled and restart apache
[22:44] <lupine_85> it should "just work"
[22:44] <lupine_85> s/restart/reload/ I guess
[22:44] <rictec> Paullo_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[22:44] <Jamesth> sebsebseb: As I am currently running the rc on my HD, and I want to scratch everything and load the final direct from cd, is there anything that I need to do especially please?
[22:44] <Jamesth> sebsebseb: i have no data, so i don;t need to back anything up :)
[22:45] <joel__> Does anyone else besides me have problems with their mobile broadband connection after the update to 9.10??
[22:45] <dale> my mobile broadband seems to work
[22:45] <sebsebseb> Jamesth: ok delete the RC partitions and start over
[22:45] <sebsebseb> Jamesth: and do a seperate home this time :)
[22:45] <dale> can I get ubunto one to stop asking for keyring every time I reboot?
[22:45]  * lupine_85 managed several successful karmic upgrades
[22:46] <Jamesth> sebsebseb: about 40Gb for a seperate home you think? I have approx 200GB HD
[22:46] <lupine_85> bit of manual punching required
[22:46] <lupine_85> but overall good
[22:46] <sebsebseb> Jamesth: Ubuntu only, or it has Windows on it as well or?
[22:46] <Jamesth> sebsebseb: just ubuntu... kicked that other OS off :)
[22:46] <sully> When I upgraded to 9.10, the gdm option to make my default session simply run my .xsession went away
[22:46] <joel__> dale: Really? Half of the times I boot my system it works
[22:46] <sebsebseb> Jamesth: about  12GB for  / and really big seperate home, with some swap space if you want that
[22:46] <sully> and now my only choices are "xterm", "GNOME", and "failsafe GNOME"
[22:47] <kathie> lupine_85, I installed wicd and uninstalled Network Manager. Do I need to change any settings in wicd to get it to work with my atheros wifi?
[22:47] <Paullo_> I try to install my graphic video in Ubuntu and after i rebot the screens come black and i cant see nothing,some one can help me?
[22:47] <sully> how do I make it run my .xsession?
[22:47] <joaopinto> sully, that is a bug reported on launchpad about that, it provides a workaround
[22:47] <sebsebseb> Jamesth: that will be a good set up
[22:47] <mars_> Can anyone please help me? Is there a way to upgrade from 8.04 to 9.10?
[22:47] <Kai_> update manager :P
[22:47] <Paullo_> i need install my graphic video
[22:47] <sebsebseb> mars_: not directly to it no
[22:47] <erUSUL> mars_: 8.04 --> 8.10 --> 9.04 --> 9.10
[22:47] <Jamesth> sebsebseb: so just to recap: 5gb SWAP, 12GB / and the rest /home
[22:47] <lupine_85> kathie: it 'just worked' here
[22:47] <mars_> @sebsebseb but?
[22:47] <rictec> Paullo_, what is you graphic card?
[22:47] <sully> joaopinto: great! thanks!
[22:47] <sebsebseb> mars_: also if you upgrade all the way to 9.10 through,  8.10, and 9.04,  no  Ext4 for you by default
[22:47] <lupine_85> and I'm using ath5k
[22:47] <Paullo_> rictec gf fx 5600 128mb
[22:48] <sebsebseb> mars_: plus maybe  a Grub issue
[22:48] <movela> mars_: download iso torrent and do a clean install
[22:48] <lupine_85> I could connect using the wicd network manager program
[22:48] <erUSUL> mars_: you can do 8.04 LTS ---> 10.04 LTS (when out of course)
[22:48] <mnaines> sebsebseb: I don't usually split the hard drive into different partitions.  I keep everything on one partition but I arrange everything into their own folders to make it easier to navigate
[22:48] <VCoolio> Jamesth: maybe a separate data / backup partition for if you want a really clean install sometime including home
[22:48] <rictec> Paullo_, its a nvidia card
[22:48] <movela> good luck on a upgrade
[22:48] <lupine_85> (make sure you've not got the rf kill switch on)
[22:48] <Paullo_> rictec yes
[22:48] <sebsebseb> mars_: you can wait  till 10.04   April 2010 the next LTS and upgrade directly to it, but again no Ext4 for you by default, you can convert Ext3 to Ext4 though
[22:48] <kathie> lupine_85, damn I restarted and everything.. Nothing working atheros 5k
[22:48] <Jamesth> VCoolio: thanks for your advice :)
[22:49] <rictec> Paullo_, so did you try with the 180 driver or the nv one?
[22:49] <lupine_85> :(
[22:49] <Paullo_> i download the drive www.nvidia.com and install.the linux install other time 2.and the 2 opitions had error
[22:49] <sully> joaopinto: do you remember what the bug was called?
[22:49] <caseyd> lupine_85, I see a rewrite.load, but no rewrite.conf.. i lined just the .load, restarted and it doesnt work.. so im missing something I guess
[22:49] <sebsebseb> mars_: I am not sure if Ext4 really matters that much anymore,  regarding fast boot up and shut down,  when I do Karmic final I am going to test Ext3  first, and then do Ext4 for my proper install.  Well I suppouse the automatic disk checking after the 23 or so boots, will still be a lot faster with  9.10 done with Ext4, than it is with Ext3.
[22:49] <sebsebseb> mars_: there's xsplash  to speed boot up and shut down in 9.10 as well
[22:49] <plitter> could someone help me with getting java development kit for my ubuntu?
[22:49] <joaopinto> sully, trying to find it
[22:50] <Jamesth> sebsebseb: so what commands/applications do I need to use to scratch my existing disk?
[22:50] <rictec> Paullo_,  did you stop the x server?
[22:50] <mike3_> It appears I need to redo my xen doma 0  box. Any suggested distrbution that is always up to date and on the most current kernels?? Oh and supports 64-bit
[22:50] <mike3_> ?
[22:50] <sebsebseb> Jamesth: system > admimistration > partition editor
[22:50] <mars_> sebsebseb: as you say - convert to ext4 should not be the point.
[22:50] <Paullo_> rictec yes
[22:50] <rictec> Paullo_, befoure installing?
[22:50] <joaopinto> sully, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/398300
[22:50] <sebsebseb> mars_:  should not be the point?
[22:50] <Jamesth> sebsebseb: thank you!
[22:50] <movela> simple question. does adobe flash plugin work on a 64 bit karmic koala install?
[22:50] <sebsebseb> Jamesth: np
[22:51] <rictec> Paullo_, what error is on nvidia instaler log?
[22:51] <matreya6> plitter, sun-java6-jdk
[22:51] <sebsebseb> Jamesth: plus you can do it all in manual install I guess on the installer, but gparted is nice
[22:51] <mars_> In fact - I backed up and could return to where I am now. I am looking for a way to upgrade to 9.10 and would not mind keeping my ext3
[22:51] <Paullo_> rictec he donst have error
[22:51] <sieson> does anyone know whats wrong with evolution in 9.10?? when I add a new task or memo in the calender section and press enter to added it to the list, evolution quits suddenly and for no reason... Does anyone have the same problem?
[22:51] <plitter> matreya6: thanks will try now:)
[22:51] <Paullo_> install sucessful
[22:51] <mike3_> What is the most popular distrbution to install Xen on guys?
[22:51] <sebsebseb> mars_: with 9.04  the  Ext4 support was optional and not perfectly stable since the kernel they have and such,  but oh yes  quite a speed improvement
[22:51] <sully> joaopinto: awsome; thank you
[22:51] <matreya6> plitter, just sudo apt-get install it
[22:52] <oalvarez> anygody having with karmic destroying data?
[22:52] <rictec> Paullo_, it installs sucessuly and after reboot?
[22:52] <movela> mars_: i don't know if now is a good time to upgrade since the servers are hammered... it might take days..
[22:52] <sebsebseb> seidos: someone else  had an issue with evolution in 9.10, I think they  might have lost their emails in fact
[22:52] <movela> for such a task
[22:52] <sebsebseb> seidos: wrong one
[22:52] <matreya6> plitter, this is how i found it: "apt-cache search jdk"
[22:52] <sebsebseb> sieson: see above
[22:52] <filgy> what's a good gui usenet reader?
[22:53] <Paullo_> rictec i can´t see nothing on screen its all black
[22:53] <sebsebseb> seidos: I would recommend  web mail for email :)  or  Mozilla Thunderbird
[22:53] <Paullo_> but the song is on
[22:53] <mike3_> GUys is opensuse the most up to date distrbution to run Xen on?
[22:53] <sebsebseb> seidos: again hmm
[22:53] <sebsebseb> seidos: see above again hmm
[22:53] <plitter> matreya6: found it and installing now
[22:53] <mars_> movela: Ah. Okay. What do you think how long it ll take till the servers are back to normal? I would not mind waiting several days.
[22:53] <sebsebseb> sieson: ^
[22:53] <sieson> sebsebseb: see what?
[22:53] <Slart> oalvarez: not sure if I can blame Karmic or if I should be thankful.. but one of my hard drives just crashed one day after upgrading.. but I like the new s.m.a.r.t daemon thingy.. at least it gave me time to rescue my stuff
[22:53] <rictec> Paullo_, wwhat is the version you are trying to install?
[22:53] <FirstSgt> trying to install webmin for ubuntu... cant find it with apptitude
[22:53] <FirstSgt> any suggestions?
[22:54] <sebsebseb> sieson: I was messing up auto complete and messaging seidos
[22:54] <sieson> sebsebseb: is it a common problem? is it a bug?
[22:54] <Slart> !webmin | FirstSgt
[22:54] <Paullo_> rictec of my grapich card?
[22:54] <plitter> matreya6: it warms my heart to press java and tab afterwards now:)
[22:54] <FirstSgt> ahh.. okay, any cool tools for configuring pptp?
[22:54] <plitter> matreya6: thanks:)
[22:54] <Slart> FirstSgt: no idea, sorry
[22:54] <FirstSgt> pretty new to ubuntu.  but i know its the way to go :)
[22:54] <matreya6> plitter, if you want eclipse as IDE, it did not work straight out of the box on 9.04, I hope they fixed this for Karmic
[22:54] <duffydack> well I just spend best part of a day installing 9.10 on a mates laptop only to get random lockups.. think it was down to the wireless driver.. stuck 9.04 on and its been ok for a while..
[22:54] <rictec> Paullo_, yes i see on nvidia site is 173 something
[22:54] <FirstSgt> Slart: it's okay.
[22:55] <FirstSgt> I can't find anythin written in the last few years about how to configure pptp.
[22:55] <rictec> Paullo_, is that what you are trying?
[22:55] <plitter> matreya6: not going to use eclipse
[22:55] <matreya6> plitter, happy coding to you :-)
[22:55] <FirstSgt> ive configured it before on the box... but cant seem to now.
[22:55] <sebsebseb> sieson: Personally I don't use  Evolution and have never used it properly ,but I have a feeling that there may be some kind of serious issues with it in 9.10
[22:55] <mars_> movela: what would I have to do to update??
[22:55] <mike3_> Is opensuse the most up to date distrbution to run Xen on?
[22:55] <Paullo_> rictec corret i try to install this version
[22:55] <plitter> matreya6: thanks:) going to use gedit
[22:55] <rm200910> mweichert: thanks for the question - I am reading up on apparmor/SELinux
[22:55] <FirstSgt> web based email is the way to go
[22:55] <erUSUL> mike3_: offtopic here --> ##linux
[22:55] <FirstSgt> why install something :)
[22:55] <Slart> mike3_: no idea.. but if you ask "is this channel the best channel to ask about Suse" I'm pretty sure the answer would be "no"
[22:56] <matreya6> plitter gedit? does that have highlighting now?
[22:56] <FirstSgt> mike3_: No
[22:56] <popkorn> i have 2 grub menu.lst files, 1 under mint & 1 under ubuntu. how do i point the system to the ubuntu grub?
[22:56] <KurtKraut> I've made a rather complex shell script that I want to distribute to Ubuntu users. Making a .deb package is quite a rocket science, a thing more complex then my script itself. Autopackage.org seems to be abadoned. Any suggestion on ways to distribute software to Linux?
[22:56] <rictec> Paullo_, NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.20.pkg1.run this file right?
[22:56] <sieson> sebsebseb: it was abseloutly fine with 9.04, I dont know why the ubuntu guys always mess something up in the new versions
[22:56] <filgy> what's a good GUI usenet reader?
[22:56] <Paullo_> rictec yes
[22:56] <matreya6> plitter, Yes it does, great...
[22:56] <sieson> sebsebseb: for me everytime I upgraded I lost some functionality
[22:56] <FirstSgt> lol
[22:56] <sully> KurtKraut: throw a tarball up on your website, cross your fingers, and hope distros start packaging it?
[22:56] <sebsebseb> seidos: I know what you mean, but it's not always their fault
[22:56] <plitter> matreya6: yes:) u can just store the file as *.java and then it will start the highlighting
[22:57] <ghindo> I'm having some trouble with Adobe Flash and would like to reinstall it.  What would be the best way to completely remove Flash from my system?
[22:57] <sebsebseb> sieson: above again
[22:57] <rictec> Paullo_, on ubuntu 9.10?
[22:57] <Counterspell> Which program is it that runs in the system tray and notifies you of new mail (in evolution)? i can't find it
[22:57] <Paullo_> rictec yes
[22:57] <mike3_> What would some of you guys suggest? I am currently using Gentoo but I realized I built it in a 32-bit enviornment when in fact my computer is a 64-bit system. Since I need to redo it, I would like to find a distrbution that has one of the latest kernels . It seems to me that OpenSuse is a popular xen system to choose from.
[22:57] <plitter> matreya6: or you can choose yourself in the lower right corner
[22:57] <Slart> Counterspell: mail-notification ?
[22:57] <rictec> Paullo_, the nv drivers works?
[22:57] <matreya6> plitter, I see it, pretty neat :-)
[22:57] <stonewash> hello
[22:57] <livingdaylight> hi.. volume has changed... where thet preference for sound
[22:57] <Counterspell> Slart: hm
[22:57] <KurtKraut> sully, that's the approach that most people do and the less effective.
[22:57] <stonewash> what font natilus use ?
[22:58] <Counterspell> Slart: so i have to run it from the command line?
[22:58] <Paullo_> rictec how i know? i thing no because after rebot cant see nothing.but if i try to enter in root i can enter
[22:58] <Slart> Counterspell: nope.. it's a small gui app that sits in the try and checks your emails
[22:58] <plitter> matreya6: thats what i thought:D also when i write in eclipse i tend to think it is kind of slow....
[22:58] <Slart> !info mail-notification
[22:58] <nicklas_> yo
[22:58] <sebsebseb> sieson: in fact most of the programs  in the Ubuntu repo, and that come with Ubuntu for that matter,  aren't made by the Ubuntu community or Canonical, well for some of  those programs  developers from the  Ubuntu Community or Canonical will  contribute  upstream to the projects
[22:58] <Counterspell> Slart: i'm not sure how to add it because it's not in the list of apps when I right-click the panel and select add to panel
[22:58] <malberto> does anybody here know the way I can block samba users to delete files from them own pc's ?
[22:58] <mars_> movela: what would I have to do to update??
[22:59] <fission6> i am trying to compile Apache Flood on ubuntu 64 and getting, ecking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[22:59] <fission6> checking build system type... Invalid configuration `x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu': machine `x86_64-unknown' not recognized
[22:59] <fission6> configure: error: /bin/bash ./config.sub x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu failed how do i go about fixing this?
[22:59] <rictec> Paullo_, when the computer starts try control+alt+f1 and you check if a comand prompt appears
[22:59] <Counterspell> Slart: sorry! i need to install it first, got it thanks
[22:59] <Slart> Counterspell: oh.. it's not an applet.. it's a normal program
[22:59] <matreya6> plitter,  I like the method and property-completion of a regular IDE, I must be lazy ;-)
[22:59] <karine> SLT
[22:59] <sebsebseb> sieson: sometimes  Ubuntu doesn't follow upstream as closely as it should really,  and sometimes  upstream mess something up themselves for end users,  but very rarely
[22:59] <plitter> matreya6: but have you tried snippets?
[23:00] <sieson> sebsebseb: but u expect the programs that they recommend and have been contributed to constantly which they also promote to work properly. Especially when people like myself base their entire life on them!!
[23:00] <matreya6> plitter, No what about them?
[23:00] <sebsebseb> seidos: well sure, but  all big programs get bugs
[23:00] <prower> sebsebseb: Not that rarely, I've reported a bug related to Karmic's version of Rhythmbox that's been determined to be an upstream issue :>
[23:01] <sebsebseb> seidos: even a lot of the smaller ones will have bugs
[23:01] <sieson> sebsebseb: thats why I have problems convincing people to use ubuntu.... Not only that evolution quits, the backup/restore doesnt work as well. Which means I've lost a hell of a lot of settings....
[23:01] <sebsebseb> sieson:
[23:01] <euthymos> hi I would like to upgrade to Grub2 but what about my XP dual boot?
[23:01] <seba> hi i think there's a bug in karmic koala. if i choose a new button set. the folder buttons don't get switched they the same standard gnome look.
[23:01] <sebsebseb> sieson:  Well  there was a session about bugs earlier  as part of Ubuntu Open Week
[23:01] <ghindo> I'm having some trouble with Adobe Flash and would like to reinstall it.  What would be the best way to completely remove Flash from my system?
[23:02] <plitter> matreya6: lets say you want System.out.println("");, just write sout <tab> and then it will come out and the cursor in the middle of the "" and next tab will put you on the next line:)
[23:02] <holmser> I'm having some issues upgrading to 9.10
[23:02] <Shoshana> There is possible like in windows 7 (mini preview / eliipse tabs) example :  http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8396/74754754858.jpg
[23:02] <GilJ> Wich ones, holmser
[23:02] <plitter> matreya6:  and you can easily make new ones
[23:02] <shooree> how do I get Nvidia Xserver to remember my powermizer settings and not revert to adaptive every reboot? I've tried running it with sudo and saving xconf.org that way, but to no effect apparently. any help greatly appreciated.
[23:02] <dale> btw, I just wanted to say that this release is getting pretty damn good
[23:02] <yoritomo> trism thanks i could find the help for lao lrt writing system http://www.lao.net/html/LRT.html if you know any people annoyed by that too
[23:02] <holmser> I the packeges get downloaded, then it stops when it tries to install them
[23:03] <emma> I've gone Karmic on ALL of my PCs
[23:03] <holmser> i took a look in the console, and it is just scrolling y's
[23:03] <emma> I don't even have any Windows at all.
[23:03] <holmser> doesn't freeze or anything, just doesn't install
[23:03] <matreya6> sieson, Yes I have those issues as well. The Linux Desktop is slowly getting there, but contains too many bugs in functions that people use regularly for general adoption.
[23:03] <BrianH> hey guys, ran my updates after a fresh install and now firefox keeps spitting out "bus error" when launched
[23:03] <sebsebseb> sieson: The sessions  get logged, and you can learn quite a lot more about Ubuntu by taking part. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[23:03] <movela> mars_: if you can download iso from torrents. burn discs, and do a clean install. for all 9.10 goodies. i think there has been alot of improvements since 8.04 which can be seen on KK or 9.04... i never did an upgrade thru upgrade manager b/c it always messes up. maybe once or twice it worked. but its your choice
[23:03] <zealiod> i have a vlan/iptables issue with ubuntu detailed here... can any one help? http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=29847&seen=true&wrap=on&langoverride=-
[23:03] <GilJ> holmser: Like with the 'yes' command? :/
[23:03] <Shoshana> There is possible like in windows 7 (mini preview / eliipse tabs) example :  http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8396/74754754858.jpg
[23:03] <holmser> yes command?
[23:04] <holmser> yeah
[23:04] <GilJ> holmser: Yeah it just outputs yes untill you quit it
[23:04] <holmser> exactly
[23:04] <sebsebseb> matreya6: see above the message I just sent to  sieson
[23:04] <matreya6> plitter, Ah, so a sort of Shorthand definitions for frequently used commands? I'll take Method- and property-completion instead.
[23:04] <sieson> sebsebseb: Sure, I might be able to find sometime to get on it..
[23:04] <GilJ> How did you start upgrading? upgrade -d command?
[23:04] <newbie88> Can anyone tell me if Remote Desktop will allow me to work remotely over the internet rather than just on the local area network?
[23:05] <seba> hi, i've installed new Icon sets. via "Appearance Preferences". Alas the folder icons don't switch. All other icons do. Any idea what could be up here?
[23:05] <sebsebseb> newbie88: over the Internet with who?
[23:05] <grinn> how do I delete a user without a knowing the user's password or the root password?
[23:05] <holmser> any ideas what would cause this?
[23:05] <Lostinspace_46> Clean install of 9.10 with FF 3.5.  My pings seem fine.  Xchat loads like always.  SpeakEasy.net says I have 16 Mbps down.  But it takes 30+ sec for a page to load??  here is my /etc/resolv.conf file http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d50c9e4eb and here are some network-tools screenshots.  [IMG]http://i36.tinypic.com/6z7prn.jpg[/IMG]
[23:05] <sebsebseb> grinn: adduser is for adding and deluser is for deleting I think
[23:05] <GilJ> holmser: I don't :( Have you tried interupting the y output?
[23:05] <sebsebseb> grinn: in  a root shell
[23:05] <holmser> newbie88, you most likely need to open your firewall
[23:06] <holmser> with a ^C
[23:06] <sebsebseb> grinn: well  you can boot up into recovery mode and get into that,  then for example  I think it's deluser  username
[23:06] <newbie88> sebsebseb: I want to use my home machine from a remote location
[23:06] <anao> @grinn no possible or take liveCD
[23:06] <sebsebseb> !vnc >  newbie88
[23:06] <matreya6> sebsebseb, nice link, but most of the people I try to win over have never ever heard of IRC. Most them use MSN instead. I prefer IRC, but it is yet another thing they need to get used to.
[23:06] <holmser> GilJ,  i did a ^c, but that kills everything
[23:06] <grinn> is there a way to figure out my root password?
[23:06] <anao> vnc + ssh runs good
[23:06] <lstarnes> !root | grinn
[23:07] <GilJ> holmser: Yeah, thats kinda the lame part :/
[23:07] <anao> @grinn do you make fresh install?
[23:07] <sebsebseb> matreya6: ok  look at logs for open week stuff that has already happended not just the one for karmic,  there will be some useful ones for you,  plus there's  more  of the karmic one coming up.   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[23:07] <grinn> @anao, no i just got my netbook up and running after 2 months
[23:07] <holmser> GilJ,  is there any way I can try it from the boot CD?
[23:07] <GilJ> holmser: I'd just try upgrading again, and look where it starts doing that 'y' but that might download everything again =/
[23:07] <anao> at ubuntu root account is locked by default
[23:07] <sebas891> hi folks, on ubuntu 9.04 I do dpkg-reconfigure locales, and I don't get to choose which local to generate... ? any idea?
[23:08] <anao> could you run sudo -s? at console?
[23:08] <newbie88> Thanks all. I can figure it out from the link
[23:08] <seba> hi, i've installed new Icon sets. via "Appearance Preferences". Alas the folder icon doesn't change. All other icons do. Any idea what could be up here? Could be a prob with the new release (karmic koala). You could just try it yourself. Please help me out i'm sick of the gnome folder look!
[23:08] <GilJ> holmser: Like in fresh install from the CD?
[23:08] <anao> or try to boot your netbook at single mode
[23:08] <sebsebseb> newbie88: Did anyone else help?   well anyway np
[23:08] <dale> ok, is there any way to make terminal always start as byobu ?
[23:08] <anao> should be easy
[23:08] <holmser> I've actually been trying to get this to install since the beta came out, no dice
[23:08] <sebsebseb> newbie88: well whoever did the page helped as well
[23:09] <holmser> GilJ, I would prefer to avoid a fresh install if at all possible
[23:09] <grinn> @anao I just fixed it, thanks for the help!
[23:09] <anao> @grinn what was the error?
[23:09] <matreya6> sebsebseb, Thanks for the link, I'll spread the news around to some of the people I'm supporting with Ubuntu
[23:09] <GilJ> holmser: A Fresh install from the CD could help
[23:10] <grinn> @anao sudo deluser seemed to work
[23:10] <sebsebseb> matreya6: ok good
[23:10] <sebsebseb> matreya6: and np
[23:10] <Lutra> hey, I'm having trouble installing ubuntu 9.10, can anyone help?
[23:10] <sebsebseb> !details | Lutra
[23:10] <Slart> Lutra: what seems to be the problem?
[23:10] <anao> yes sudo can it, add a admin-user to your netbook for later problems
[23:11] <anao> sudo adduser localadmin
[23:11] <Lutra> i had ubuntu 8.04, and last night i tried to install 9.10 and it does not boot (also it killed my 8.04)
[23:11] <anao> then sudo adduser localadmin sudo
[23:11] <sebsebseb> Lutra: be more exact
[23:11] <phoenixz> Anybody who could tell me how to solve this one? I have 4 ubuntu servers stuck in this.. sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a    gives me this : http://pastebin.com/m46588684     How can I fix this?
[23:11] <sebsebseb> Lutra: you can't also directly upgrade 8.04 to 9.10, so what did you do exactly?
[23:11] <matreya6> Every good IRC channel should have such a useful bot as ubottu...
[23:11] <anao> and login into netbook as localadmin and try sudo -s again
[23:12] <Shoshana> There is possible like in windows 7 (mini preview / eliipse tabs) example :  http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8396/74754754858.jpg
[23:12] <flarkin> hi so i'm newish to linux...how do you change the path to directory?
[23:12] <RobMcMahon> \join #python
[23:12] <anao> @ALL ubuntu 9.10 have big Bugs on Thinkpads
[23:12] <RobMcMahon> opps sorry I'm a n00b
[23:12] <crescendo> Screenclipping mode like Microsoft Onenote's "SUPER+S" mode.  Alternative in Ubuntu / gnome-screenshot?
[23:12] <Lutra> I downloaded and burned the 9.10 cd, booted from it, and installed (i have 2 HDs, I installed on the one that didnt' had the 8.04 on it)
[23:12] <Flare183> anao: Nope not for me
[23:13] <DexterF> hi
[23:13] <sebsebseb> flarkin: using the graphical file manager or in the terminal with  cd  /home/example   and if you start doing the path and hit tab it will auto complete
[23:13] <jean099> bjr
[23:13] <sebsebseb> !tab |  Flare183
[23:13] <sebsebseb> uh wrong one ah
[23:13] <sebsebseb> flarkin:  above
[23:13] <jean099> france
[23:13] <buggie> Hey.. I just installed 9.10 (64bit) and i overwrite the old 9.04 (32bit) - I am dual booting windows and ubuntu.. with the previous 9.04 installation i used grub to handle the booting, now as i formated the HDD and installed 9.10 it seems its still useing grub 1.5 and it says "error 15"
[23:13] <holmser> if I boot from the karmic install CD, will it give me an option to upgrade?
[23:13] <sebsebseb> !fr |  jean099
[23:13] <anao> ubuntu 9.10 makes hard Freezes with ATI Mobility Graphic Chips
[23:14] <sebsebseb> holmser: Yes that's a good idea to do a nice clean install of Karmic from the LIve CD, and then yes when the next one comes out, you will be able to upgrade to it
[23:14] <Flare183> anao: That's why you have to remove the fglrx driver from xorg
[23:14] <sebsebseb> holmser: whilst running your install
[23:14] <anao> Thinkpad T20, R40, T30, R50p have same bugs
[23:14] <matreya6> crescendo, Yes that is a nifty function in  MacOsX and now Win7 has adopted it,
[23:14]  * Flare183 has a T60
[23:14] <holmser> so, am I gonna lose all my stuff?
[23:14] <flarkin> sebsebseb thanks
[23:14] <paissad-acer> i'm connected via ssh to my laptop, i want to install nvidia driver, but i don't know which to choose ! .. may someone help me ?
[23:14] <anao> yes but its installed by default
[23:14] <Flare183> holmser: No.
[23:14] <kostas_thess> hello . There is any torrent client that can be work via web interface?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! i have used torrentflux-b4rt but it has problem on ubuntu server 9.10 . Any help ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
[23:14] <sebsebseb> flarkin: np
[23:15] <crescendo> matreya6: I only just now discovered it, I was using SnagIt on windows
[23:15] <Lostinspace_46> Clean install of 9.10 with FF 3.5.  My pings seem fine.  Xchat loads like always.  SpeakEasy.net says I have 16 Mbps down.  But it takes 30+ sec for a page to load??  I am at a loss.  Any help is appreciated. here is my /etc/resolv.conf file http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d50c9e4eb and here are some network-tools screenshots.  [IMG]http://i36.tinypic.com/6z7prn.jpg[/IMG]
[23:15] <sidewalk> why does my keyboard keep returning to US keyboard, even if i have saved it as SWE keyboard?
[23:15] <crescendo> matreya6: would like to have an Ubuntu version...
[23:15] <sebsebseb> kostas_thess: To download what?
[23:15] <Flare183> !info torrentflux | kostas_thess
[23:15] <holmser> kostas_thess, transmission and deluge both have web interfaces
[23:15] <sidewalk> after reboot my keyboard returns to US keyboard
[23:15] <matreya6> crescendo, But yes, it would be great to have similar functionality instead of the rigid screenshot app in Gnome.
[23:15] <anao> is there an online Manual for 9.10 "inside" changes? instead of 8.10
[23:16] <arand> sidewalk: I've had that problem as well... No idea about fix though.
[23:16] <kostas_thess> torrents sebsebseb
[23:16] <sebsebseb> anao: You want to know what's new in 9.10?
[23:16] <sebsebseb> kostas_thess: and probably ones your not really meant to download?
[23:16] <Dracofodder> what is the recommended podcast agregator for Karmic?  I'd spent a lot of time looking under Jaunty, and finally settled on gPodder.  Now after the upgrade to Karmic, I'm getting random crashes, and if I try to report it with the automatic reporter module, it says it cannot because the application is not a supported application.
[23:16] <Lutra> sebsebseb: think you know what happend?
[23:16] <popey> Dracofodder: i use hpodder
[23:16] <anao> no what services changed and which config files have changes
[23:16] <kostas_thess> what sebsebseb ?!
[23:16] <junius_> Hi\
[23:17] <junius_> Need some help
[23:17] <junius_> anyone?
[23:17] <Scunizi> Dracofodder: I think you can do that with Amorak.. I know you can with Rhythmbox.. but Amorak is a kde client
[23:17] <sebsebseb> Lutra: sounds like you went over 8.04 with 9.10
[23:17] <anao> to find easy way to customize 9.10
[23:17] <Flare183> !ask | junius_
[23:17] <rictec> junius_, with?
[23:17] <sebsebseb> Lutra: told it to use the entire hard disk or something in the installer
[23:17] <junius_> i tried instaliing skype on ubuntu 9.1
[23:17] <junius_> it says - Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libqt4-core (>= 4.2.1)
[23:17] <Dracofodder> popey: seriously, I've never heard of that.  will give it a try.  as these fails are a lot upsetting.
[23:17] <kostas_thess> holmser the deluge can i use it via console?
[23:17] <popey> Dracofodder: its a command line app, but works
[23:17] <anao> often  i ask myself why ubuntu go this special way against debian
[23:17] <sebsebseb> junius_: ah yes dependancies
[23:17] <kostas_thess> i dont have X holmser
[23:17] <buggie> Hey.. I just installed 9.10 (64bit) and i overwrite the old 9.04 (32bit) - I am dual booting windows and ubuntu.. with the previous 9.04 installation i used grub to handle the booting, now as i formated the HDD and installed 9.10 it seems its still useing grub 1.5 and it says "error 15"
[23:18] <lstarnes> kostas_thess: rtorrent may be used via console
[23:18] <jlboli> echelon
[23:18] <sebsebseb> junius_: basically install what it complains about
[23:18] <Lutra> it does not matter, after it killed it, I formated it completley, and still it does not boot
[23:18] <Flare183> junius_: That's because Skype hasn't been packaged for Karmic yet.
[23:18] <rictec> junius_, oh wait i have skype witch version did you try?
[23:18] <Dracofodder> Scunizi: unless Amarok has returned some of the functions they took away in the last release, I won't be liking them much.  but, will revisit them if its got better integration to KArmic
[23:18] <jlboli> sayonara echelon..
[23:18] <holmser> kostas_thess, I believe you can
[23:18] <trism> crescendo: are you just looking for a screenshot app that allows cropping? Shutter should do this http://shutter-project.org/
[23:18] <Lutra> anything i can do to give you more info?
[23:18] <junius_> skype for ubuntu 8.1 and +
[23:18] <matreya6> junius_, Welcome to dependency hell :-) Just try to follow all the missing packages, install them and try again and again and again until it is completely satified.
[23:18] <Scunizi> Dracofodder: I don't think it's yet up to par with the kde 3.5 release.. but it's close..
[23:18] <sebsebseb> Lutra: sure
[23:19] <holmser> kostas_thess, actually I know you can, just have never done it.  they have a guide on the deluge site
[23:19] <junius_> ok...I am a complete newbie
[23:19] <kostas_thess> holmser thanks mate i will see it now :>
[23:19] <junius_> can anyone tell me where to get these packages from?
[23:19] <KitsuneDragon> help! does anybody know why my 9.10 wubi install keeps booting to grub terminal??
[23:19] <Dracofodder> Scunizi: sigh, and I just got comfortable with gPodder.
[23:19] <sebsebseb> Lutra: there is a command that will show me what partitions you have,  but I like screenshots of gparted for that kind of thing
[23:19] <Flare183> junius_: Synaptic Package Manager
[23:19] <thijs_> Hi people
[23:20] <sebsebseb> Dracofodder: was it an upgrade from 9.04?
[23:20] <matreya6> junius_, Now that is mostly the easy part, "sudo apt-get install [package]"
[23:20] <nyne> If i want to set up network authentication at home is ldap the best way to go ? I have Mac and Ubuntu desktops/notebooks
[23:20] <rictec> junius_, mine say that too but i have it ...
[23:20] <nyne> I'm running ubuntu server 9.04
[23:20] <Shoshana> There is possible like in windows 7 (mini preview / eliipse tabs) example :  http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8396/74754754858.jpg
[23:20] <sebsebseb> !server |  nyne
[23:20] <Lutra> ok, give me a few minutes
[23:20] <KitsuneDragon> !server
[23:20] <KitsuneDragon> aww
[23:20] <Dracofodder> sebsebseb: yes, I decided to chance an upgrade, rather than a backup, and full install.   Overall the upgrade seems to have worked Ok.. unless this is a side-affect.
[23:21] <sebsebseb> nyne: 8.04 is recommended for  business Ubuntu servers and that kind of stuff
[23:21] <thijs_> I got a question, i installed ubuntu karmic on a laptop with a ati mobility radeon card, however it seems to run with aticonfig --initial -f, but now it still doesn't boot, how do i get in my grub menu? Because it doesn't say pres esc to enter grub menu anymore
[23:21] <Shoshana> There is possible like in windows 7 (mini preview / eliipse tabs) example :  http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8396/74754754858.jpg
[23:21] <rictec> junius_, did you try instaling that lib befoure skype?
[23:21] <matreya6> nyne, LDAP is very nice, especially on a large (wireless) network (RADIUS!) . It takes some configuration though.
[23:21] <junius_> sudo apt-get install libqt4-core Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package libqt4-core
[23:21] <nyne> matreya6 I have a mix of wireless (g&&n) and wired (gigabit)
[23:21] <prower> Is there a way to choose to encrypt your home folder and provide a password after installation? I forgot to check the proper box when I was installing 9.10 from DVD :<
[23:21] <KitsuneDragon> anybody have an answer?
[23:22] <junius_> nah i tried nothing
[23:22] <matreya6> nyne, nice!, how many stations are attached to your LAN?
[23:22] <TonyTheTiger> Hi I have a dell latitude laptop (fairly old) and I have installed kubuntu but the wifi and ethernet doesnt work. P.s I am on a machine which has vista so I cant do any compiling. my wifi adapter is BCM4306 and ethernet controller is BCM5751 both Broadcom.
[23:22] <Lostinspace_46> Clean install of 9.10 with FF 3.5.  My pings seem fine.  Xchat loads like always.  SpeakEasy.net says I have 16 Mbps down.  But it takes 30+ sec for a page to load??  I am at a loss.  Any help is appreciated, as I am about ready to put 9.04 back in. here is my /etc/resolv.conf file http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d50c9e4eb and here are some network-tools screenshots.  [IMG]http://i36.tinypic.com/6z7prn.jpg[/IMG]
[23:22] <rictec> junius_, is on the main library so check you have it
[23:23] <sebsebseb> Dracofodder: I messaged the wrong one
[23:23] <junius_> how do i do that?\
[23:23] <Flare183> Shoshana: Not from what I know of, I know you can tab multiple windows with with compiz.
[23:23] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: Was it an upgrade from 9.04?
[23:23] <scite> beug kernel 9.10 ?
[23:23] <KitsuneDragon> sebsebseb: now i have tried many installs from the wubi 9.10 disk
[23:23] <nyne> matreya6 right now i've got 6 running osx and 2 boxes running ubuntu
[23:23] <rictec> junius_, on aplication sources check universe
[23:23] <MrKeuner> hello, what does "over-current change on port 1" mean in /var/log/syslog?
[23:24] <KitsuneDragon> sorry no
[23:24] <nyne> no windows to speak of
[23:24] <TonyTheTiger> Hi I have a dell latitude laptop (fairly old) and I have installed kubuntu but the wifi and ethernet doesnt work. P.s I am on a machine which has vista so I cant do any compiling. my wifi adapter is BCM4306 and ethernet controller is BCM5751 both Broadcom.
[23:24] <youngtill1die> hi!who can help me too configure pcmcia wifi card??need help!
[23:24] <arand> sidewalk: Hmm, here's a thing that seemed to work: Add swedish to keyboard layouts in preferences, move it to top, tick as defautl, apply system-wide, and keep the USA layout there below as non default... Worked for one reboot here at least...
[23:24] <matreya6> junius_, apt-cache search libqt4
[23:24] <youngtill1die> hi!who can help me too configure pcmcia wifi card??need help!
[23:24] <rictec> junius_, then install the lib then skype
[23:24] <nyne> well... i might have an xp install somewhere as a vmware node
[23:24] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: Wubi can be ok for testing, but also people can get issues with it, as a result it is better to do a proper partitioned install from for example the Live CD
[23:24] <scite> quelqu 'un parle français ?
[23:24] <anao> Hello does anyone tested SSD Drives setup at a big Laptop?
[23:24] <erUSUL> !fr | scite
[23:24] <Flare183> !fr | scite
[23:24] <sebsebseb> !fr |  scite
[23:24]  * Flare183 laughs
[23:24] <sebsebseb> Flare183: why?
[23:24] <scite> peu pas y acceder sur ubuntu-fr
[23:25] <erUSUL> scite: /join #ubuntu-fr
[23:25] <Flare183> sebsebseb: We all done the bot factoid command one after another.
[23:25] <junius_> guys i am lost here
[23:25] <matreya6> nyne, sounds like a nice network indeed. If you go into the trouble of setting up LDAP combined with a radius server, that's about the safest option you can choose (provided you use WPA2 of course).
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Flare183: I saw erUSUL had already done it, but decided to hit enter anyway
[23:25] <junius_> would be great if anyone would explain this to me in a private message in plain english please
[23:25] <anao> @Junius ??
[23:25] <ghindo> I'm having some trouble with Adobe Flash and would like to reinstall it.  What would be the best way to completely remove Flash from my system?
[23:26] <KitsuneDragon> sebsebseb: yes but lets say I partition using Gparted and split a 25 gb partition out of my NTFS and format it ext4 which means windows wont see it also lets say i want to get rid of Ubuntu can I do that and attach that partition back to Windows?
[23:26] <TonyTheTiger> hey can someone help me please?
[23:26] <Slart> junius_: what do you need explained?
[23:26] <Slart> TonyTheTiger: just ask your question
[23:26] <AaronM> how do i disable root being needed to mount drives in 9.10?
[23:26] <TonyTheTiger> Hi I have a dell latitude laptop (fairly old) and I have installed kubuntu but the wifi and ethernet doesnt work. P.s I am on a machine which has vista so I cant do any compiling. my wifi adapter is BCM4306 and ethernet controller is BCM5751 both Broadcom.
[23:26] <junius_> where do I start from
[23:26] <nyne> matreya6 how would the wired machines log on to the network? I want to be able to have a central home directory for everyone so I'd either export nfs or netatalk (or a combination of the two)
[23:26] <matreya6> nyne, the nice thing about LDAP is that you can roam freely on the network when logging in. The disadvantage is that you need to have your LDAP/ radius server running at all times.
[23:26] <junius_> step by step explanation please
[23:26] <anao> @TonyTheTiger whats up?
[23:26] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: Windows does not need to see the Ubuntu partition,   Ubuntu has been able to read and write to  Windows NTFS partitions and properly since 7.10
[23:27] <Lostinspace_46> OK, all else aside..why would it take 30+ sec to open a page when I have 16Mbps down??
[23:27] <Slart> junius_: what are you doing? installing ubuntu? upgrading? something else?
[23:27] <TonyTheTiger> anao wifi does not work nor does the laptop respond to any ethernet connections
[23:27] <junius_> i installed it today
[23:27] <erUSUL> !ipv6
[23:27] <veggteppe> Hello all, got some questions.1st: what is gutsy/hardy/feisty? 2nd: How do you find out wich you got? (sorry for the stupid question) Appreciate any helpl.
[23:27] <junius_> now i want to install skype
[23:27] <rictec> junius_, private?
[23:27] <Lutra> sebsebseb: I took the snapshot, where to send it?
[23:27] <anao> @TonyTheTiger if you can install all restricted packets from backports too
[23:27] <junius_> please
[23:27] <Shoshana> junitec: you can use wine
[23:27] <kjele> Is there a program that locks the keyboard?
[23:27] <anao> and reboot
[23:27] <Shoshana> wine is emulator for linux
[23:27] <sebsebseb> !screenshot |  Lutra
[23:27] <Slart> veggteppe: those are names for different versions of ubuntu
[23:28] <TonyTheTiger> anao how would i install them without internet?
[23:28] <junius_> rictec private will be great
[23:28] <Flare183> veggteppe: Those are code names, and to find out which one you have open a terminal and type in lsb_release -a
[23:28] <matreya6> nyne, the wired computers should use pam_LDAP to authenticate to your central LDAP-server.
[23:28] <Slart> !names | veggteppe
[23:28] <anao> @TonyTheTiger then make a lsmod and lspci to see what chip is seen by kernel
[23:28] <rictec> junius_, check your windows lol
[23:28] <KitsuneDragon> sebsebseb: yes but will I be able to fuse the ext4(which I would partition back to ntfs) and my other NTFS partitions together? also can I remove Ubuntu and keep grub?
[23:28] <veggteppe> slart/Flare183: thanks :)
[23:28] <Flare183> veggteppe: No problem.
[23:29] <nyne> matreya6 ah okay great. I have been having trouble getting everything to work properly. i can query the ldap server with slapcat and ldapsearch but am still unable to authenticate to it. i've installed ldapscripts and can use ldapadduesr ldapmodifyuser etc without problem but when i try to login using one of those created accounts -- no dice
[23:29] <TonyTheTiger> anao the broadcom BCM4306
[23:29] <anao> @TonyTheTiger manual download it with windows put it on usbstick and copy it to ubuntu desktop
[23:29] <TonyTheTiger> is what lspci outputs
[23:29] <nyne> i am certain that i am missing something. (this is a fairly constant truth lately haha)
[23:29] <arcsky> i know my screen got 1440x900 or so but i can only change to max 1200x800, do i need any speciell drivers or so?
[23:29] <TonyTheTiger> anao yeah i would do that, but i dont know what to download :S
[23:29] <Flare183> TonyTheTiger: FYI Broadcom wireless cards are evil if you try to use them with Ubuntu.
[23:29] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: you can delete an unwanted partition
[23:29] <anao> @TonyTheTiger on Linux open root console and instell the *.deb PAckets with dpkg -i *.deb
[23:30] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: and then make a new partition
[23:30] <matreya6> nyne, it takes a while to setup, but it's great, especially when coupled with radius, nfs and local DNS
[23:30] <TonyTheTiger> Flare183 Thanks for the heads up, however my main laptop got stolen and i am using this just to get work done but need to get on internet first.
[23:30] <sburwood> is this the correct forum for a question about Koala?
[23:30] <Slart> sburwood: yes
[23:30] <KitsuneDragon> sebsebseb: yes but can i connect them without reformating!? the one im going to fuse to
[23:30] <Lostinspace_46> TonyTheTiger, I have a broadcom card and it works fine
[23:30] <kjele> Is there a program that locks the keyboard?
[23:30] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: also  no point having Grub if you only got Windows,  plus  the second you remove the Ubuntu partition which by default will have /boot in it,  Grub won't work properly anymore
[23:30] <TonyTheTiger> anao this laptop has only windows and it isnt mine.
[23:30] <anao> @TonyTheTiger google ubuntu restricted
[23:30] <Slart> sburwood: Karmic Koala is the stable version of ubuntu (since two days back when it was released)
[23:31] <nyne> matreya6 I need to spend a bit more time getting dns set up properly. I have been using /etc/hosts and it's really doing my head in. I am trying to build things one step at a time so not to over complicate things
[23:31] <Flare183> sburwood: this isn't a forum is a relay help chat channel.
[23:31] <anao> Karmic isn't clean
[23:31] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: in fact Grub won't be there anymore, except for what's left on the Master Boot Record, which won't be able to boot up anything,  putting the Windows CD in and letting it  fix things,  will  remove that, and only Windows will boot
[23:31] <Scunizi> kjele: if you point to the gnome panel at the top of the screen (the bar where the clock is).. right mouse click it and choose Add.. look for the lock utility..
[23:31] <Lostinspace_46> TonyTheTiger, I assume you have installed ndiswrapper?
[23:31] <nyne> matreya6 there are a few things on the ubuntu guide that have me a bit confused
[23:31] <sburwood> Slart, I downloaded Koala, burned it onto a CD, booted it in a Live Session, and all was wonderful
[23:31] <matreya6> nyne, true, for a small static network a hosts file is a simple alternative indeed.
[23:31] <anao> KArmic is buggy cause enhanced Desktop Compiz is active by default
[23:31] <KitsuneDragon> sebsebseb: so if I remove ubuntu(how would I do that) grub would break and also mine is an acer laptop and i dont have a recovery disk :(
[23:31] <TonyTheTiger> Lostinspace_46 no.
[23:32] <Flare183> anao: Its not that hard to disable the effects.....
[23:32] <Lostinspace_46> TonyTheTiger, msg me
[23:32] <TonyTheTiger> I dont know how, via windows that is.
[23:32] <loonyphoenix> Hello again. Is it possible to unlock keyring automatically at login?
[23:32] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: there is probably a recovery partition on there
[23:32] <Wazzzaaa> Hi, I have an ATI card. Which drivers should I use? properiatary?
[23:32] <sburwood> I installed it ... still no problem.  Then I tried to reboot it.  That is where the problems started
[23:32] <sebsebseb> !ati |  Wazzzaaa
[23:32] <poseidon> What is the more popular way to handle themes now?  Compiz, metacity, etc?
[23:32] <KitsuneDragon> sebsebseb: recovery partition?
[23:32] <Slart> sburwood: ok, just explain what kind of errors you get and so on
[23:32] <Wazzzaaa> thnx sebsebseb
[23:32] <pxpradio> i am having a bit of an issue.  I am trying to apt-get php5-cli but it is retuning the error broken packages
[23:32] <sebsebseb> Wazzzaaa: ATI  by the way  can cause right issues for people with Ubuntu, so good luck with that
[23:32] <pxpradio> how can i manually install this item
[23:32] <kjele> Scunizi: I do not want to black out the screen just lock the keyboard
[23:33] <sburwood> as soon as it started, I got "initrd is too big" error message and nothing else
[23:33] <Wazzzaaa> yeah sebsebseb I know that.
[23:33] <matreya6> nyne, maybe I can help you with that, but I doubt it. I am enthousiastic about this combination because it has been implemented where I work and I know it to work comfortably. I have never set it up myself :-/
[23:33] <TonyTheTiger> Lostinspace_46 accept the chat
[23:33] <Wazzzaaa> My problem at the moment is that I see an (werid) empty list in "Hardware Drivers"
[23:33] <Wazzzaaa> werid = weird
[23:33] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: yes a lot of OEM's  Original Equipment Manufactures  are  stupid  for two reasons these days  1.  they still only pre install Windows,  no Ubuntu  2.   They don't bother sending out Windows CD's or DVD's, instead they put on a  hidden recovery partition
[23:33] <arand> pxpradio: first do "sudo apt-get install -f" to fix any broken packages (or use synaptic)
[23:33] <sburwood> there must be some tweaking I need to do before the restart after installation
[23:34] <anao> @ALL Newbies ALLWAYS take a Ubuntu Live CD to run and test your PC in front you setup Linux
[23:34] <h4f1> what package should I install to be able to run KDE application ?
[23:34] <FatherTyme> Doing a post on Karmic - does anyone have a transparent png of the new startup logo?
[23:34] <nyne> matreya6 as of now i am working at a company that has sort of outgrown its authentication mechanism (standard growing pains) and i am hoping to learn a bit about openldap so to get away from passwd/shadow editing using puppet on hundreds of hosts... i sort of joined the company and realized what they were doing and was frightened lol
[23:34] <matreya6> h4f1, if you like KDE, do a install of kde-desktop
[23:34] <KitsuneDragon> sebsebseb but how would I reach this with a broken grub also I dont want to lose any of my data( i mean I will back up but I always seem to be missing something unlike ubuntu's /home)
[23:35] <sburwood> Slart, I get "initrd is too big" error message on restart after installation.
[23:35] <pxpradio> could someone help me with my php5 problem?
[23:35] <h4f1> matreya6: I need just to run some kde-app not the whole kde
[23:35] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: What was that about home?
[23:35] <poseidon> I want to change my default ubuntu theme to something more appealing.  What programs should I use, compiz, emerald, gtk?
[23:35] <anao> pxpradio??
[23:35] <KitsuneDragon> Grub2 has issues
[23:35] <Kurious> pxpradio do you use aptitude?
[23:35] <sebsebseb> h4f1: just install whatever KDE app you want,  and  it wil take care of the rest for you
[23:35] <pxpradio> yeah
[23:35] <pxpradio> i use apt-get
[23:35] <loonyphoenix> Can anyone answer my question? Can I unlock my keyring automatically with autologin?
[23:35] <KitsuneDragon> sebsebseb: home all you have to do is copy it over Vista you have to go file hunting!
[23:35] <MrSchmo> anyone having issue with mounting/accessing windows 7 share?
[23:36] <arand> sburwood: Is the info here relevant: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/429898 ??
[23:36] <sburwood> Slart, I have been required to reinstall 8.10, as I can't get 9.04 to do anything
[23:36] <anao> repair broken deps apt-get -f install
[23:36] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: oh your running VIsta?
[23:36] <Kurious> pxpradio: aptitude update
[23:36] <rm200910> mweichert: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor says that every time you edit a profile you need to reload apparmor. Sounds like you can't do what you want!
[23:36] <Scunizi> kjele: it does both because if the keyboard is locked it assumes that you're not using it.. thus you don't need the screen .. it shuts down to save resources
[23:36] <Slart> sburwood: hmm.. haven't heard of that error before.. hang on, let me see what google can find
[23:36] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: apparantly all three loss support in 2014 or around then,  not just XP which yes 2014,  but  also  Vista and Windows 7
[23:36] <KitsuneDragon> sebsebseb: yes Vista laptop and my wubi install(fresh) is loading Grub>
[23:36] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: that is on the consumer/homeuser desktop
[23:37] <matreya6> nyne, Good show! This will definitely impress your staff once you get it up and running. One disadvantage is that the machines will become totally dependent on that LDAP server, if it goes down, no one can login anymore. That is, if you use LDAP login exclusively.
[23:37] <paissad-acer> wgrant, hi again , i just want to say that, i removed manually the nvidia driver, i installed via aptitude , and the problem is solved with the last kernel ( 2 6 31 ) .... but for the <IP_ADDRESS>, the problem remains, but i don't care
[23:37] <ghindo> I'm having some trouble with Adobe Flash and would like to reinstall it.  What would be the best way to completely remove Flash from my system?
[23:37] <paissad-acer> thanks for all
[23:37] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: and sure lap tops, but  these things are called desktop  computing
[23:37] <Slart> sburwood: this looks promising<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:37] <arand> Slart: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/429898 << I think it was that thing.
[23:37] <wgrant> paissad-acer: Right, the old kernel might not have it automatically built.
[23:37] <wgrant> paissad-acer: In future, always use the versions in the repos!
[23:37] <Lutra> sebsebseb: I uploaded the screenshots, http://imagebin.org/70225  http://imagebin.org/70226
[23:37] <paissad-acer> wgrant, ok
[23:37] <anao> @ALL Linux Hackers how to disable Kernel Messages at tty1 on boot without usplash
[23:37] <sburwood> Slart, I looked at google and it mentioned that there is something about manipulating the kernel to be removed
[23:37] <KitsuneDragon> sebsebseb: what? 2014?
[23:37] <kjele> Scunizi: Well I found one program. called Lock Keyboard for Baby http://sourceforge.net/projects/lk4b/files/
[23:38] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: XP will no longer be supported in 2014.  Vista and Windows 7 apparantly as well
[23:38] <arand> sburwood: did my link give any useful info?
[23:38] <KitsuneDragon> sebsebseb: i dont have a working desktop that i own though
[23:38] <sburwood> hold on arand, I'm not that fast
[23:38] <KitsuneDragon> sebsebseb: but what about wubi and partitions?
[23:39] <pxpradio> Kurious: whats the command and will it work with apt-get?
[23:39] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: well there's extended support for busineses or something.     So  Vista is on the verge of  becoming a bit pointless,  plus  more stuff is going to be made for 7 now,  anyway this has gone a bit off topic now.   What do you want to use WIndows for?  Maybe you can do it all in Ubuntu
[23:39] <anao> for Netbooks i use xdm+jwm+pcmanfm+rxvt runs on 58MB RAM
[23:39] <pxpradio> nm its working now
[23:39] <Slart> sburwood: well.. I was on my way to bed.. but arand seems to be fully caffeinated =) good luck
[23:39] <Nopal> I have a trouble since i upgrade to karmic, gdu-notification-daemon say one of the hard disk have a wrong parameters of design, before i upgrade dont warning about that
[23:39] <KitsuneDragon> sebsebseb: I need windoze for ipt syncing (iPod Touch)
[23:39] <kjele> Scunizi: Looks like it works. Now I can watch movies and clean the keyboard :) Thanks anyway
[23:39]  * Take0n good night everyone!
[23:40] <sburwood> thx Slart
[23:40] <Kurious> pxpradio: your dependencies are probably off .. run $ apt-get update
[23:40] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: hmm
[23:40] <pxpradio> i just did a complete removal and it worked fine
[23:40] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: Windows virtual machine  can do it
[23:40] <giros> why economy ram$cpu% resources in 2010 year? )))
[23:40] <matreya6> Thanks for all the help and I hope my help has contributed to this community
[23:40] <KitsuneDragon> sebsebseb: thats why ive been using wubi
[23:40] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: I meant Windows inside Ubuntu
[23:41] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: and then you can also use both OS's at the same time
[23:41] <Lutra> sebsebseb: are you still with me?
[23:41] <sebsebseb> Lutra: yes
[23:41] <KitsuneDragon> windows virtual machine? but again I dont have the install disk( and you mean Virtual box right? VB is awesome)
[23:41] <sebsebseb> Lutra: as you can probably see I  am also trying to help  KitsuneDragon,  but I'll have a look now
[23:41] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: yes  Virtualbox, altough there are other apps that can do them as well
[23:42] <poseidon> I just installed ubuntu 9.10 fresh.  I have had all my applications since 8.04.  Since I installed fresh, all the apps, tweaks, etc. are gone.  Anybody know of a good article on what to do after a clean install of ubuntu?
[23:42] <n8tuser> KitsuneDragon-> vmware, virtualbox i dont think you can run windows as guest yet..
[23:42] <KitsuneDragon> sebsebseb: vmware
[23:42] <sebsebseb> n8tuser: what?
[23:42] <sebsebseb> n8tuser: Windows can run inside Ubuntu as a guest yes
[23:42] <KitsuneDragon> n8tuser: guest?
[23:42] <tormod> poseidon, there was a looong post on planet.ubuntu.com
[23:43] <sebsebseb> KitsuneDragon: the host the psyical install the one that is properly on the hard disk, the guest your vm
[23:43] <poseidon> tormod, thanks.  I'll look for that
[23:43] <n8tuser> sebsebseb-> you cant run in virtualbox, you have to use vmware, to support a windows guest
[23:43] <Guest86464> What should the permissions on /etc/cron.daily/apt be?  Can someone who did a complete 9.10 install take a look for me?
[23:43] <sebsebseb> n8tuser: that is not true
[23:43] <Scunizi> n8tuser: you mean win7 ?  I know vista and xp will run as a guest
[23:43] <n8tuser> sebsebseb-> must be new..
[23:43] <sebsebseb> Lutra: ok uhmm
[23:44] <sebsebseb> Lutra: about to load them
[23:44] <sburwood> arand, it seems to cover the problem, but I'm not smart enough to understand how to fix it
[23:44] <Nopal> I have a trouble since i upgrade to karmic, gdu-notification-daemon say one of the hard disk have a wrong parameters of design, before i upgrade dont warning about that, anyone know how to fix it?
[23:44] <n8tuser> sebsebseb-> i got it confused with openvz.. sowee
[23:44] <gp> hi guys pl help my server has run out of space (ec2 instance ) ......i created a new partition and mapped home folder to it but its NOT working
[23:44] <Scunizi> n8tuser: I've been running xp and 2000pro in Vbox for 2 years
[23:44] <Kurious> prprario: i would recommend you use aptitude ... it's better at the depencies
[23:44] <KitsuneDragon> sebsebseb: i am host but i need help with wubi or partitions I am not yet ready for a complete overhaul unless you know extremly good backup software
[23:44] <n8tuser> Scunizi-> yes..i got it confused with openvz
[23:44] <saketh> hello
[23:44] <arand> sburwood: yea, its a temporary fix, for an odd bug.
[23:44] <sburwood> arand, I've read that it is grub2 and something that is there only if you need to work on the kernel
[23:44] <saketh> i just dual booted karmic with win7
[23:44] <gp> hi guys pl help my server has run out of space (ec2 instance ) ......i created a new partition and mapped home folder to it but its NOT working
[23:44] <gp> # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # <file system>                                 <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass> proc                                            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0 /dev/sda3                                       None            swap    defaults        0       0 /dev/sda1                                       /...
[23:44] <saketh> and i am getting a grub error
[23:44] <gp> ...              ext3    defaults        0       0 /dev/sda2                                      /home            ext3    nodev,nosuid    0       2
[23:45] <FloodBot1> gp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:45] <randomusr> hello
[23:45] <saketh> it says symbol 'k' not found
[23:45] <saketh> aborted
[23:45] <sebsebseb> n8tuser:  Scunizi  Windows 7 (Vista version 2)  can also run in a vm
[23:45] <lepban> hey guys, anyone here know how to dualboot OSX86 and ubuntu?
[23:45] <gp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/308024/
[23:45] <saketh> hello?
[23:45] <frog> hi, i have a nvidia card with digital and analog intreface. and there are 2 monitors connected. one is 'primary' and he sescod is tv.  how can i configure the x server , that it switch automatically when i switch the tv to "pc" ?
[23:45] <sebsebseb> well the RC can, so I assume the final can as well
[23:45] <randomusr> anyone here used Intel C++ compiler on linux? If so, had any trouble with the silent install?
[23:45] <n8tuser> sebsebseb-> umm, vm is so generic term..
[23:45] <sburwood> arand, but how do I install Koala and fix the problem so that I can boot off of hard drive without initrd is too big?
[23:45] <gp> pl have look my fstab ->>>>>>>>>>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/308024/
[23:45] <saketh> hello?
[23:46] <KitsuneDragon> sorry guys i have to go sebsebseb if you could send me the help is there a way for me too keep it on my screen? private chat?
[23:46] <junius__> hi is rectec herE?
[23:46] <gp> when user logs its says unable to find home directoryy
[23:46] <frog> or if it would not be possible automatically, how can i do it with shortcut?
[23:46] <frog> the resolution is different
[23:46] <sebsebseb> Lutra: ok
[23:46] <sburwood> I'm using 8.10, but want to be able to use 9.10
[23:47] <n8tuser> sburwood-> you can install it on another partition if you wish
[23:47] <junius__> how do i get dc++ on ubuntu?
[23:47] <randomusr> sburwood, what's the issue?
[23:47] <Wiz3000> junius__, install using wine
[23:47] <sburwood> I have been installing it on sda2
[23:47]  * f0urtyfive waves
[23:47] <randomusr> sburwood, disregard my last
[23:47] <Speculater> Can someone help me with compiz?  I have it installed and all the correct items selected but I get none of the effects...
[23:47] <sburwood> np, random
[23:47] <f0urtyfive> so who can tell me how to do multiple monitor with one monitor rotated
[23:47] <sebsebseb> Lutra: two hard disks yes?
[23:48] <randomusr> Speculater, what driver/video card do you have?
[23:48] <Lutra> sebsebseb: yes
[23:48] <sburwood> so I should install it on sda3 or sda6?
[23:48] <Speculater> I have a geforce 8800
[23:48] <saketh> hello?
[23:48] <adam_> Speculater: do you have Compiz Fusion Icon installed ?
[23:48] <Speculater> but I don't know the driver, whatever 9.10 is at default
[23:48] <sebsebseb> sburwood: 8.10 is going to be better than 9.10 in certain ways
[23:48] <Lutra> the 300GB has ubuntu 9.10 that does not boot
[23:48] <sebsebseb> Lutra: which one is that?
[23:49] <randomusr> Speculater, are you using the nouveau driver or the nvidia proprietary driver?
[23:49] <sburwood> seb, I imagine so, but why release 9.10 if it is a step backwards?
[23:49] <arand> sburwood: from the comments in that bug they seem to suggest looking into the memory settings in your bios, have you done that? Also, what you could try is to run the memtest thing on the livecd.
[23:49] <Speculater> I tried to get the propietary driver, but I didn't know how to use the file.  So I assume the nouveau one
[23:49] <LutraMan> sebsebseb: http://imagebin.org/70226
[23:49] <sebsebseb> sburwood: I haven't done the final yet, but I have been testing since alpha 4 and what I have seen of 9.10 and that,  I am not that impressed
[23:49] <thijs_> my ubuntu install on my laptop will not boot always, it keeps hanging somewhere before X, where should i start tackling this problem?
[23:50] <arand> sburwood: memory errors could maybe potentially cause hassles...
[23:50] <sebsebseb> sburwood: check out the release notes, then you can decide if you want to go 9.10 or not, and  it's one that should be clean installed really, otherwise issues might happen
[23:50] <adam__> whois Brova
[23:50] <randomusr> Speculater, I believe the nouveau driver is default in ubuntu if you have an nvidia card, someone else would need to confirm
[23:50] <sebsebseb> !notes |  sburwood
[23:50] <linuxhelp> to resolx X-Problems at Laptop boot at SINGLE Mode!!
[23:50] <sburwood> memtest would fix what?  And on my computer, I haven't changed any memory stuff for a while
[23:50] <randomusr> Speculater, have you enabled Desktop effects?
[23:50] <strawberrybunny> Where does Ubuntu keep its .desktop files for the gnome dropdown menus?
[23:51] <sebsebseb> sburwood: 8.10 will run out of support on the desktop in April when 10.04 comes out the next LTS
[23:51] <Speculater> In compizconfig I have?  Is there anywhere else to?
[23:51] <sebsebseb> sburwood: I think it's April since the 18 months of support thing
[23:51] <gp> hi guys pl help my server has run out of space (ec2 instance ) ......I move my home folder some partition and mapped home folder to it but its NOT working
[23:51] <gp> changed "/dev/sda2 /mnt ext3 defaults 0 0"  to "/dev/sda2                                      /home            ext3    nodev,nosuid    0       2"
[23:51] <gp> i copied to home folder to /mnt   and then renamed the home folder
[23:51] <gp> but fstab is not mounting it
[23:51] <waieez> can I upgrade to 9.10 without backing up my fiiles?
[23:51] <sburwood> yes, but I have had problems with .04 since 7.04 or 8.04 and 9.04 was no better
[23:51] <gp> pl have look my fstab ->>>>>>>>>>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/308024/
[23:52] <randomusr> Speculater, Go to System > Preferences> Appearance
[23:52] <gp> its national emergency pl help me
[23:52] <arand> sburwood: true that memtest won't fix anything, but it may be that somehow grub2 is more sensitive to errors... although I do think it's rather unlikely...
[23:52] <randomusr> Speculater,from there, click on visual effects tab
[23:52] <Speculater> there
[23:52] <ibou> can someone help me ? i can't install wine : http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-42964
[23:52] <anao> @gp whats up?
[23:52] <Kaspir> hello. having some trouble getting empathy to do video calls
[23:52] <sebsebseb> LutraMan: it's one big Ext3 that's not good
[23:53] <adam__> is there anyone who can tell me how i can install Cairo Dock : Core. I already installed Cairo Dock. here is a URL, i cant find installation instructions on their site. even a URL would be appreciated =)
[23:53] <adam__> https://launchpad.net/cairo-dock-core
[23:53] <sebsebseb> sburwood: problems such as?
[23:53] <gp> anao: hi ... i am trying to move my home folder but its not worjing ...i am stuck
[23:53] <Lutra> sebsebseb: ok, can you tell me what to do?
[23:53] <sburwood> I've 1GB in this machine for some time
[23:53] <randomusr> Speculater, have you turned it on?
[23:53] <sebsebseb> Lutra: your on here with two names now?
[23:53] <sburwood> Never been able to install any .04 offerings
[23:53] <anao> @gp do make it as root?
[23:53] <Speculater> I went to effects and selected "custome effects"
[23:53] <sebsebseb> sburwood: odd
[23:53] <Speculater> and now it's downloading the propietary driver to support the full 3d acceleration
[23:54] <sburwood> Always had to revert back to .10
[23:54] <cantigas> if i 'ufw enable' or 'ufw disable' does that persist across boots
[23:54] <Kaspir> can anyone help me with making video calls with empathy
[23:54] <Lutra> one on the damaged computer, another one on the laptop, just in case it crashes down
[23:54] <anao> @gp reboot you pc and use single mode at boot menu
[23:54] <sburwood> anyway, I should sleep a little
[23:54] <sebsebseb> Lutra: ok
[23:54] <sburwood> it's almost 1am
[23:54] <sebsebseb> Lutra: I guess 8.04 is still there
[23:54] <randomusr> Speculater, you should be well on your way. let me know if more help is needed
[23:54] <sburwood> and I'm not getting any younger
[23:54] <anao> @gp then move your folder as root
[23:54] <sebsebseb> Lutra: it's  just  whatever Grub you got now  hasn't detected it?
[23:54] <Speculater> Will do, and thanks a ton.
[23:54] <sburwood> thanks for the help you have been able to give
[23:54] <gp> anao i used cp -pR /home /mnt
[23:54] <thijs_> how do i get in the grub menu when booting karmic? Pressing esc wont help
[23:54] <gp> as root
[23:54] <sburwood> bye
[23:55] <randomusr> anyone here used Intel C++ compiler on linux? If so, had any trouble with the silent install?
[23:55] <sebsebseb> !grub2 |  thijs_
[23:55] <gp> -p option to preserve rights
[23:55] <MrSchmo> anyone having issue with mounting/accessing windows 7 share?
[23:55] <Lutra> it can't still be there, i formated it completley after it failed to load the 1sts time
[23:55] <anao> @gp yes at ubuntu only at single mode root is active
[23:55] <souler> Anyone could help me flip my webcam? It's upside down :(
[23:55] <elhoir> hello guys, i have a problem, i installed a Sound Blaster Audigy 2, and i have no osound in Ubuntu 9.10 .. card is detected in lspci
[23:55] <MrSchmo> ubuntu 9.10 wont connect to windows 7 shared folders
[23:55] <elhoir> any idea?
[23:56] <anao> or try switch to root at console "sudo -s"
[23:56] <sebsebseb> MrSchmo: you set up samba properly?
[23:56] <Biovor3> elhoir: you have the emu10k1 module loaded..  lsmod
[23:56] <gp> anao: but why its not mounting reboot from fstab
[23:56] <f0urtyfive> souler: get some tape and flip it upside down :D
[23:56] <gp> i am using root login aka su
[23:56] <sebsebseb> MrSchmo: I think there might be an issue with that kind of thing, because of Microsoft
[23:56] <anao> @gp where is /home new disk?
[23:56] <elhoir> Biovor3: yes i have
[23:56] <sebsebseb> MrSchmo: With 7 that is
[23:56] <souler> f0urtyfive:  it's integrated. Otherwise I'd have done it long ago. <.<
[23:56] <gp> changed "/dev/sda2 /mnt ext3 defaults 0 0"  to "/dev/sda2                                      /home            ext3    nodev,nosuid    0       2"
[23:56] <elhoir> Biovor3: do u want me to paste the output?
[23:57] <souler> f0urtyfive:  I'm using a laptop
[23:57] <Biovor3> elhoir: aplay -l show your card?
[23:57] <MrSchmo> sebsebseb, is this a known problem?
[23:57] <gp> "/dev/sda2"
[23:57] <f0urtyfive> souler: tape the laptop to the ceiling.
[23:57] <sebsebseb> Lutra: the other drive looks like an 8.04 install
[23:57] <MrSchmo> that people cant access windows 7 shared folders?
[23:57] <gp> earlier it mapped to /mnt
[23:57] <gp> where i can find fstab logs
[23:57] <souler> f0urtyfive:  I need reasonable help.
[23:57] <n16h7f0x> do i have to install any other packages for my ati hd 4340 video card for opengl to work on 9.10 or it works by default (please excuse my eng and advice)
[23:57] <sebsebseb> MrSchmo: I am not sure if there is an issue,  there might be one one,  maybe ##windows know where there are also Linux users,  or ##linux
[23:57] <thijs_> sebsebseb, I can't find any reference ?
[23:57] <sebsebseb> MrSchmo: maybe #networking  can help you even
[23:58] <randomusr> does anyone know of a detailed how-to for samba, one from scratch maybe with manual steps?
[23:58] <anao> @gp try to boot your pc with ubuntu CD and move and change fstab
[23:58] <elhoir> Biovor3: http://pastebin.com/m180982cd
[23:58] <anao> at live mode
[23:58] <Haberdasher456> Does anybody know why 4 gig of ram might show up as 3.1 gig in the gnome system monitor? (I'm running a 64 bit OS)
[23:58] <elhoir> Biovor3: so, yes it does
[23:58] <sebsebseb> thijs_: ok well  I can't exactly help you
[23:58] <randomusr> Haberdasher456, do you have on onboard video card?
[23:59] <Lutra> sebsebseb: witch one of them? sda, or sdb? either way, i think that 9.10 is installed on both
[23:59] <Haberdasher456> no
[23:59] <anao> @<Haberdasher456> you use 32bit ubuntu..
[23:59] <sebsebseb> Lutra: the first one
[23:59] <Haberdasher456> randomusr, no
[23:59] <sebsebseb> Lutra: also  Ext3's you don't want this for 9.10
[23:59] <Biovor3> elhoir: so its probably a mixer level issue.   The SB Audigy cards are weird..   use alsamixer and try messing with the levels and muting/unmutting stuff
[23:59] <anao> @<Haberdasher456> take 64bit CD
[23:59] <joaopinto> Haberdasher456, some motherboard chipsets to not support 4GBs, I have one of those :P
[23:59] <gp> anao: its at "/dev/sda2" earlier it mounted  to /mnt ...........changed "/dev/sda2 /mnt ext3 defaults 0 0" to "/dev/sda2 /home ext3 nodev,nosuid 0 2"
[23:59] <sebsebseb> Lutra: Have you got data on there?
[23:59] <sebsebseb> Lutra: can you simpally remove the partitions and start over?
[23:59] <SpaceCake_> How do I get flash videos to work on karmic? i remember having this problem with jaunty too, but forgot how i solved it :/
[23:59] <Haberdasher456> anao, i'm using 64 bit
[23:59] <timClicks> my sound (input & output devices) don't seem to be detected suddenly
[23:59] <timClicks> they worked fine when i installed 9.10


[03:32] <darthanubis> kmail broken again
[03:32] <darthanubis> it won't use any database besides sqlite
[03:33] <darthanubis> I'm using it for gmail accounts. All appears to be working, but mail no longer shows in the main window
[03:35] <valorie> darthanubis: maybe talk to the kindly folks in #kontact when they awake?
[03:36] <shadeslayer> I do believe there's a PIM sprint going on
[03:36] <shadeslayer> this weekend
[03:36] <shadeslayer> or was it next
[03:36] <shadeslayer> so might be useful to put it in the bug tracker
[03:36] <darthanubis> this is where I recieved help before and was not redirected valorie, thx
[03:36] <shadeslayer> next weekend
[03:37] <valorie> cool
[03:38] <valorie> darthanubis: this channel is never for user help - it is a devel chan
[03:38] <valorie> however if there are packaging issues etc. it is appropriate to ask here
[03:38] <darthanubis> I know what its for, and the guys helped, and were helpful. Goodnite
[03:38] <valorie> cool, niters
[03:45] <darthanubis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.6/+bug/1437846
[03:45] <darthanubis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konversation/+bug/1440461
[04:21] <valorie> darthanubis: how did you get konvi to crash?
[04:21] <valorie> "Right-click ignore crashes konversation" - what does that mean?
[04:56] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: feature tour looks amazing
[05:22] <frecel> ahoneybun: did you read the thing I sent you before about the spellcheck?
[07:32] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:34] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: now it looks awesome: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/feature-tour/
[07:40] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: what do you think ^
[07:47] <lordievader> On a small screen it looks quite nice. I'll check how it looks on a large screen. Is it correct that the buttons don't do anything?
[07:47] <valorie> love it with the squared buttons!
[07:49] <valorie> but yikes, why is Kubuntu 14.10 Plasma 5 — Tech Preview on the download page, with the ppa-next info
[07:49] <valorie> please make sure that is gone before we go live
[07:49] <valorie> http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/getkubuntu/
[07:50] <valorie> those buttons on the feature tour *could* go to the various bits -- will they?
[07:51] <lordievader> I suppose that is what they are  ment to do, but in Firefox it doesn't work.
[07:52] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: add a bit more padding to top and bottom of  each section :)
[07:52] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: done,
[07:52] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: I can't get the main nav to stop splitting on 2 lines
[07:53] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: a bit more + 10 or 15px to top and bottom ?
[07:53] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: it's 40px
[07:54] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: 70px now
[07:56] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: can we add ~ +20px to the space image <-> text ?
[07:57] <valorie> ah, works in chromium, cool
[07:58] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: where doesn't it work?
[07:58] <valorie> in FF
[07:58] <ovidiu-florin> what doesn't work?
[07:58] <valorie> the buttons change color, but do nothing
[07:59] <ovidiu-florin> I see
[07:59] <ovidiu-florin> it's jQuerry
[07:59] <ovidiu-florin> it should work
[07:59] <ovidiu-florin> hmmm....
[07:59] <valorie> soooo pretty on my phone
[07:59] <valorie> so sharp
[08:00] <valorie> buttons work on my phone, too
[08:00] <ovidiu-florin> what browser?
[08:00] <valorie> LOVE the menu on the phone
[08:00] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: to prevent vreaking menu into 2 lines try this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10742453/
[08:00] <valorie> not sure - I think it might be android chrome
[08:01] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: sorry this http://paste.ubuntu.com/10742457/
[08:01] <soee_> you can make the padding smaller if needed
[08:01] <valorie> so happy with the work you all are doing
[08:03] <soee_> in feature tour would be good to have one more section so the last one would be with white background
[08:04] <soee_> than this white space above footer wouldn't be visible
[08:07] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: tell that to ahoneybun
[08:07] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: I fixed the anchors for the images
[08:07] <ovidiu-florin> now they are the size of the images
[08:07] <ovidiu-florin> so
[08:07] <ovidiu-florin> I want to consider the Feature Tour page finished
[08:07] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: images need space under
[08:07] <ovidiu-florin> except for that glitch in FF
[08:08] <ovidiu-florin> which I'll ask my JS Guru to fix
[08:09] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: is 20px enough?
[08:10] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: i wodl give them ~ 3/4 of the secion padding or the same as section padding height
[08:10] <soee_> (bothe spae above and under image)
[08:12] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: also the texts under images - long lines (like in telepathy description) i would brak into 2 lines so we would have shorten lines = easier to read
[08:16] <ovidiu-florin> there's too much text for some of them, like amarok
[08:16] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: can you please take care of that? ^^ and ^
[09:08] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: who else do you think should be added to http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/the-kubuntu-team/
[09:08] <ovidiu-florin> ?
[09:11] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: It looks even better on a large screen :)
[09:11] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: what?
[09:11] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: The new website.
[10:51] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: ping
[10:53] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: i would do small change of feature tour page: 1. Give some more space above icons 2. present icons like this http://wstaw.org/m/2015/04/05/snapshot2.png and on hover make the icon container background the same as darker section has
[10:56] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: on me screen images are 90x90px (they can have bigger size, just make them responsive), iage ontainer is 100x100px iwth 10px padding, border-radius: 10px
[10:59] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: an you also amend last commit ?
[10:59] <soee_> *can
[11:00] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: and close through commit message issue #2 ?
[11:24] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion kio 5.9.0
[11:24] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1440508
[11:24] <Riddell> but don't package modemmanager it's not compatible
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:11] <Quintasan> ovidiu-florin: pong
[13:15] <Quintasan> ovidiu-florin: Generally if I don't reply within 1 hour then either email me directly (michal.zajac $replace_with_at_symbol gmail.com) or post to ML
[16:04] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: ?
[16:15] <ahoneybun> maybe show off dolphin as another section