[06:47] <raptoid> ?
[06:48] <raptoid> raptoid@ubuntu:/home$ sudo -s -H
[06:48] <raptoid> raptoid is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[06:48] <raptoid> ?
[06:48] <Matthew_W> raptoid: what are you trying to do?
[06:48] <dbernar1> you are not in the sudoers file, as it says.
[06:48] <raptoid> i dont no
[06:48] <dbernar1> raptoid do you have anyh other users on the comp?
[06:49] <dbernar1> hurry hurry
[06:49] <dbernar1> :P
[06:49] <^egg^> raptoid:  &$%^#$#$$#%^^%^%^%$^$%^%$^%
[06:49] <raptoid> 1 mn.
[06:49] <dbernar1> ^egg^ what the dealy, yo?
[06:50] <raptoid> sorry
[06:50] <dbernar1> raptoid other users on the comp?
[06:50] <newbie^> hi dudes
[06:50] <dbernar1> I dont have lots of time, please hurry
[06:50] <Shachaf> Has anybody else here had trouble getting Ubuntu working with an eepro100?
[06:51] <Matthew_W> raptoid:  what distro are you using?
[06:51] <Matthew_W> raptoid:  ubuntu or kubuntu
[06:51] <raptoid> ubuntu
[06:51] <^egg^> lol
[06:51] <newbie^> i cant be root
[06:51] <Matthew_W> raptoid:  ok, that happens to a lot of people under kubuntu, jw.
[06:51] <newbie^> how can i fix it Matthew_W?
[06:51] <newbie^> help me
[06:51] <Matthew_W> newbie^:  you can't generally be root in ubuntu unless you set it up.  Just use sudo
[06:51] <^egg^> 543 p now
[06:51] <tsw> Shachaf: worked great for me, I just had to check that it is the only device using its irq in bios
[06:51] <newbie^> i ll give you sweet
[06:52] <newbie^> how can i use sudo?
[06:52] <makaveli> does anyone know how to get a bootsect.lnx from your linux to your windows without using a floppy
[06:52] <nalioth> newbie^: please be more specific
[06:52] <newbie^> can i give an example please.
[06:52] <Matthew_W> newbie^:  example  -- sudo dpkg -i foo
[06:52] <newbie^> = - (
[06:52] <makaveli> or does anyone know how to get into ubuntu system using a live cd?
[06:52] <Matthew_W> newbie^:  sudo = super-user do  (or, perform as root.)  So, whatever you want to do, just hit sudo.
[06:52] <nalioth> newbie^: "sudo <command goes here>"
[06:52] <dr_willis> makaveli,  hmm to do what exactly?
[06:52] <newbie^> hmm
[06:52] <newbie^> how can i create sudo file?=
[06:52] <anacron> what is sudo file? :D
[06:53] <Shachaf> tsw: This works in other distributions and in Windows.
[06:53] <nalioth> newbie^: what do you mean?
[06:53] <Matthew_W> newbie^: alternately, try     sudo -s    to switch to root temporarily
[06:53] <mindspin> just type sudo vi and vi opens
[06:53] <Shachaf> tsw: I tried loading eepro100, e100, and both.
[06:53] <newbie^> i want to delete i directory
[06:53] <Matthew_W> newbie^:  also, in gnome, you can just hit applications, system tools, root terminal.
[06:53] <newbie^> as sudo
[06:53] <Shachaf> tsw: DHCP and static IP.
[06:53] <newbie^> how can i do that
[06:53] <makaveli> dr_willis: i had to zero out my hard drive and now i am trying to restore the linux backup that i made the only thing is after restored the old bootsect.lnx doesn't work no more and i need to make a new one
[06:53] <Shachaf> tsw: Nothing works.
[06:53] <Matthew_W> newbie^:  sudo rmdir /foo/foo
[06:53] <tsw> Shachaf: it should load just fine all by itself. check that no other device uses same irq
[06:53] <newbie^> okay
[06:53] <mindspin> or sudo whateverprogramyouwannastert and whateverprogramyouwannastert starts
[06:54] <dr_willis> makaveli,  you can boot the live cd.. mount the existing partons and use 'chroot' -  i belve the ubuntu wiki's have some details on restoreing the boot loader.
[06:54] <Shachaf> tsw: It didn't get detected during the installation either.
[06:54] <makaveli> dr_willis: also i don't know how to do that other than getting into gnome from a live cd and then e-mailing it to myself and then opening it in windows
[06:54] <makaveli> dr_willis: can i get into gnome so that i can e-mail myself the bootsect.lnx from a live cd?
[06:54] <nalioth> newbie^: you don't need 'sudo' to delete a directory
[06:55] <ryan_> anyone know when the 7664 nvidia drivers will be added into the rep
[06:55] <mindspin> except its a system directory
[06:55] <dr_willis> makaveli,  you can use a live cd and mount the existing partions then  do whateer you need to with them perhaps. i got no idea what you mean by bootsect.lnx really
[06:56] <caonex> can anybody tell me the meaning of: /sbin/init: 428 cannot open device console.  I get that when i try to boot my kernel.
[06:56] <mindspin> newbie rm -R if the directory is not empty
[06:57] <Fabian> hello everybody
[06:57] <Matthew_W> Hiya
[06:57] <^egg^> hello
[06:57] <^egg^> cya
[06:57] <Fabian> I'm very new to linux, so can anyone help me mounting my second windows partition under linux?
[06:58] <nalioth> Fabian: your SECOND win partition?
[06:58] <Efwis> I keep getting "Unable to deduce DTE-DCE speed; check that you are using the
[06:58] <Efwis> correct device and/or that your modem is setup properly."
[06:58] <ryan_> try mount /dev/harddrive as shown in dev -t filesystem type /mount point
[06:59] <mindspin> Efwis is it a winmodem?
[06:59] <newbie^> how can i myself to sudoers file
[06:59] <newbie^> ?
[06:59] <newbie^> = - ( i cant use sudo
[06:59] <Efwis> I believe it is, been a while since I put it in, like when I built the box 2 years ago
[06:59] <mindspin> why do you want that ?
[06:59] <Fabian> nalioth, yep. Got the following: 1. partion: NTFS, this is where XP is installed, 2. partition FAT 32 where I got all my documents music, movies and stuff, 3. partition swap, 4. partition ext3
[07:00] <mindspin> newbie IC
[07:00] <newbie^> what s IC
[07:00] <newbie^> mindframe
[07:00] <mindspin> i se
[07:00] <nalioth> Fabian: so this is the FIRST partition you want to mount under linux, right?
[07:00] <mindspin> see
[07:00] <newbie^> can u tell me please if u have a little time
[07:00] <newbie^> i ll give you a sweet
[07:01] <newbie^> = - (
[07:01] <Fabian> nalioth, no, i want to mount the second one with my documents, so i can listen to music and write stuff both in linux and windows
[07:01] <nalioth> Fabian: ask uncle google "mount windows partition linux fstab"
[07:01] <nalioth> Fabian: you will get your answer there
[07:02] <nalioth> Fabian: i unfortunately don't run intel, so i cant help you firsthand
[07:04] <goye2cz> can someone help me with syntax? I need to figure out what to place in a sudo command in place of /path/to
[07:04] <bodaciousb> how long does it take for new drivers to hit the apt database?
[07:04] <ryan_> sudo mount /dev/hdb2 -t fat32 /mnt/windows  just make sure you sudo nkdir windows first
[07:05] <nalioth> goye2cz: what are you trying to do?
[07:05] <nalioth> ryan_: mind the typos
[07:05] <goye2cz> nalioth: I'm trying to install some drivers...
[07:06] <reka> anyone used gparted/qtparted?
[07:06] <goye2cz> nalitoh: the command I'm tryign to exeecute is: sudo fxload -s /path/to/ld2-ezusb.hex -I /usr/share/alsa/firmware/usx2yloader/us122fw.ihx -D /proc/bus/usb/001/005
[07:06] <Funraiser> reka, yes
[07:07] <goye2cz> nalioth: I need to replac path/to with where my file is loccated. I know the location.
[07:07] <nalioth> goye2cz: if you know where the file is, how can you not know the path?
[07:07] <nalioth> reka: parted user here, whassup?
[07:08] <reka> Funraiser: i'm just trialling it atm.  i'd like to make a new partition but can't seem to be able to.  the new partition option is greyed out and there are padlocks next to the partition labels.  i assume this means i can't make changes.
[07:08] <nalioth> reka: r u root?
[07:08] <reka> nalioth: er, no.
[07:08] <nalioth> reka: there ya go, use "sudo"
[07:08] <goye2cz> nalioth: it's not that I don't know the path, I'm jsut not having success replacing the path/to with something it will accept.
[07:08] <nalioth> goye2cz: WHERE exactly is the file?
[07:09] <nalioth> reka: no more gray skies, er buttons
[07:09] <reka> nalioth: tried it now... same thing, can't seem to change it.
[07:09] <goye2cz> it's in Desktop/usx2y-fw-0.1b
[07:09] <nalioth> reka that is weird
[07:09] <wulfe_afk> bbiab
[07:09] <nalioth> goye2cz: so use ~/Desktop/filename
[07:09] <goye2cz> nalioth: it's in Desktop/usx2y-fw-0.1b
[07:10] <goye2cz> nalioth: will try.
[07:10] <nalioth> reka: its very easy to do
[07:10] <reka> nalioth: you sell yourself short. :-)
[07:10] <nalioth> reka so ya ran 'sudo qtparted" and still have no play. have you tried to make some room (or are all changeable elements unavailable)?
[07:11] <reka> hang on, i'll post a screenshot
[07:11] <Fabian> got a question about /etc/networks/interfaces: there is written the following: "mapping hotplug \n script grep\n map eth0" where \n is a new line. What does this entry mean???
[07:12] <goye2cz> nalioth: I wonder if I have other problems. It keeps telling me unable to open for input.
[07:12] <nalioth> goye2cz: are you in a terminal?
[07:12] <goye2cz> yes
[07:13] <ttrocal> Hello, I was wondering if during the Hoary installation you can specify to keep the home directory of your old Linux install, as I would like to.  Can you?
[07:13] <reka> nalioth: http://tinypic.com/5xit1u
[07:13] <nalioth> goye2cz: type "file ~/Desktop/nameOfFile"
[07:14] <Funraiser> reka, if u select the partition the resize button doesn't appear?
[07:14] <nalioth> reka: ya need really quick fingers
[07:14] <goye2cz> nalioth: shell archive or script for antique kernel text
[07:15] <nalioth> goye2cz: how OLD is the file/what are you trying to do?
[07:15] <reka> Funraiser: no, if i tight-click, everything except unmount is greyed-out
[07:15] <reka> *right-click rather :-)
[07:16] <goye2cz> nalioth: I'm installing drivers for my tascam us122, following directions on the ubuntu forum. will try to check age of file...
[07:16] <Funraiser> reka, how many hard drive do u have?
[07:16] <reka> one
[07:16] <goye2cz> nalioth: almost a year exactly
[07:16] <lleberg_> I have a small problem..
[07:17] <reka> lleberg: ask away
[07:17] <Funraiser> reka, your computer is AMD?
[07:17] <nalioth> goye2cz: type "ls -l ~/Desktop/NameOfFile" and paste the line it gives you here
[07:17] <Funraiser> AMD64?
[07:17] <reka> Funraiser: intel p4
[07:17] <manwel> hello, i am running ubuntu 5.04 on a nx6110 (HP-compaq laptop) , all works out of the box except i cant reboot, it just hangs, what should/could i try ?
[07:17] <lleberg_> If i have a firefox window on workdesk 1, and have the workdesk 2 active.. and clicks on a link on my desktop, it opends in a new tab.. in the firefox on workdesk 1!
[07:17] <stjepan> hi from xfce :)
[07:18] <nalioth> manwel: how long have you waited for it to reboot?
[07:18] <manwel> well i have already waited for 10 minuts..
[07:18] <lleberg_> I can start a separate firefox on that workdesk
[07:18] <manwel> i guess its suffiscient;p
[07:19] <lleberg_> but from links it opens in a new tab
[07:19] <goye2cz> nalioth: -rw-r--r--  1 goye2cz goye2cz 986 2004-06-10 22:35 /home/goye2cz/Desktop/ld2-ezusb.hex
[07:19] <nalioth> manwel: although i don't advise straight-out killing a linux machine, you may get tired of waiting
[07:19] <reka> Funraiser: any other ideas?
[07:19] <Funraiser> reka, did u have any root problems before?
[07:19] <nalioth> anyone know if a .hex is sposed to be executable?
[07:19] <reka> Funraiser: what do you mean?
[07:19] <nalioth> goye2cz: are you trying to execute the file?
[07:20] <Matthew_W> nail:  dont think.
[07:20] <goye2cz> nalioth: do you want to see the command I'm trying to run on it?
[07:20] <manwel> In fact, i have read that i should add reboot=b to the kernel command line but as i am quite new to linux, i dont understand what it means very well :(
[07:20] <Funraiser> reka, like an app that doesn't start because it asks for root privileges?
[07:20] <goye2cz> nalioth: sudo fxload -s /~Desktop/ld2-ezusb.hex -I /usr/share/alsa/firmware/usx2yloader/us122fw.ihx -D /proc/bus/usb/001/002
[07:21] <lleberg_> So..
[07:21] <reka> Funraiser: nope.
[07:21] <Funraiser> reka, like synaptic..
[07:21] <reka> nope
[07:21] <Matthew_W> I need help with serial port operations.
[07:21] <lleberg_> How do i get a starter.. to opend a NEW firefox window on the active workdesk, and link to and url?
[07:22] <Matthew_W> My comp doesn't seem to think I have them.
[07:22] <Funraiser> reka, well what I would do is I would use partition magic on windows
[07:23] <Funraiser> reka, i mean when nothing else works...
[07:23] <reka> Funraiser: ah. not an option for me i'm afraid ... don't have it.
[07:23] <Funraiser> reka, don't have partition magic?
[07:23] <reka> nope, never needed it.
[07:23] <Funraiser> reka, or windows?
[07:23] <Funraiser> oh
[07:23] <nalioth> goye2cz: ok i'm not real sure what you are trying to do. and i dont want to advise you ignorantly
[07:24] <goye2cz> nalioth: alright, understood
[07:24] <CrAzyLaRvE> hello :)
[07:24] <reka> Funraiser: hmm, gparted tells me the disktype is msdos.  could this be the prob.?
[07:24] <nalioth> reka: do you have a ubuntu live cd (or knoppix)?
[07:24] <goye2cz> nalioth: thanks anyway
[07:24] <lleberg_> Why does xmms take 7.5% of my cpu power? =)
[07:24] <Matthew_W> I'm trying to use BitPim to access my cell phone, the problem is, it seems to say I have no USB/serial ports, help!
[07:24] <nalioth> lleberg_: its not written well?
[07:24] <anacron> what's a light tv-card software which works with hauppauge's cards?
[07:25] <reka> nalioth: warty livecd (i'm on hoary), and an outdated knoppix cd.  heh.
[07:25] <thundrcleeze> lleberg, because you have a 75 mhz pc?
[07:25] <Funraiser> reka, i don't think so
[07:26] <wijnand> whenever i try to play something (xvid/divx) with mplayer, it "freezes" on me -- is this a common thing with ootb mplayer in ubuntu?
[07:26] <Matthew_W> wijnand:  you need to change the video encoder to something that is supported on your system.  Go into mplayer preferences and look at output, under video.
[07:27] <Fabian> nalioth, got it mounted, thanks! Is there a problem writing on FAT32?
[07:27] <Matthew_W> wijnand: I had a similar problem.
[07:27] <wijnand> Matthew_W: you are using the gui, i assume? :)
[07:27] <wijnand> i'll have a look, thanks
[07:27] <Matthew_W> wijnand: yup.
[07:27] <Matthew_W> No problem.
[07:28] <Matthew_W> wijnand:  Another thing, the sound may be bugged, that also happens a lot.  Come back if that doesn't work, run it in verbose, and we'll see what else is going wrong.
[07:28] <Bicky> hello
[07:29] <Bicky> can somebody help me ?
[07:29] <wijnand> Matthew_W: should i just compile it myself?
[07:29] <Matthew_W> If you're on ubuntu, didn't you install it from synaptic?
[07:29] <mindspin> bicky ask
[07:30] <Bicky> I just tried to start-up the life cd from ubuntu 5.04
[07:30] <Bicky> it said: your computer does not support long mode
[07:30] <Fabian> is that the right option to be able to read and write on a FAT 32 partition: "/dev/hda5   /home/daten   vfat     auto, uid=1000,git=1000 0 0"
[07:30] <Matthew_W> wijnand:  did you install it from synaptic..?
[07:30] <Bicky> but I've a AMD athlon 64 processor and it was the 64-bit version
[07:31] <Bicky> what am I doing wrong ?
[07:31] <mindspin> no clue on 64-bit stuff sorry
[07:31] <nalioth> Fabian: only NTFS writing is unstable atm
[07:31] <Matthew_W> Bicky:  try installing the i386 regular old non 64 bit version.
[07:32] <Matthew_W> Bicky:  errr.... booting from it.
[07:32] <Bicky> it keep stopping while loading
[07:32] <Fabian> nalioth, so that line is correct for writing on FAT 32? (that line's in /etc/fstab)
[07:32] <nalioth> Fabian: does it allow you to write?
[07:32] <HappyFool> Fabian: you might want to be careful with spaces in that line
[07:32] <Matthew_W> Bicky:  Do all options stop?  Like, do they all hang, or just the 64 bit?
[07:32] <caonex> how can i install ubuntu from a .iso in a partition other than the root will be one?
[07:32] <caonex> do i need a diskette?
[07:32] <wijnand> Matthew_W: i did, and it's working now -- i think it was because it was using alsa rather than ESD, as changing video output back to default didn't seem to matter -- anyway it's working now, thanks :)
[07:33] <Matthew_W> wijnand:  no problem -- the sound is harder to fix, so that's good.
[07:33] <wijnand> yeah
[07:33] <HappyFool> Fabian: also, is /home/daten your home directory ? I really wouldn't mount it there
[07:33] <Bicky> matthew: dont know, it just stops, then i can't do anything anymore
[07:33] <nalioth> Fabian: like HappyFool said, take out the space tween the auto, and uid
[07:33] <Matthew_W> mindspin:  hey -- do you know anything about configuring USB / Serial ports X_X
[07:33] <HappyFool> Fabian: i'd mount it at /media/windows, or maybe /mnt/windows
[07:33] <Fabian> HappyFool, there is no space  between auto and uid. The other spaces are set to match the lines above
[07:34] <Matthew_W> Bicky:  hrm, have you passed any special options to the kernel at boot? (you can do that with this live cd right..? lol )
[07:34] <nalioth> Fabian: yes, you need a nother mount point
[07:34] <nalioth> Fabian: i recommend /mnt/whatever_U_want_2_call_it
[07:34] <Fabian> nalioth, why do I need another mount point? what is the problem?
[07:34] <nalioth> Fabian: then symlink it to your $homedir
[07:35] <nalioth> Fabian: if you run that line, you'll make your win partition your home directory in linux (nad you will be in deep doodoo)
[07:35] <Bicky> yes I've tried the special options
[07:35] <trillian> Hi, relatively simple question: Is Ubuntu supposed to come with a c compiler?  I'm trying to install some program packages but the system is having no luck detecting cc or gcc or anything.
[07:35] <Fabian> nalioth, ??? I don't make it my homedirectory!? My home directory is /home
[07:35] <nalioth> trillian: install "build-essential"
[07:36] <mindspin> Matthew_W sorry, no, hardware isnt my thing ;-)
[07:36] <nalioth> Fabian: your home dir is /home/username (is your user name daten?
[07:36] <Fabian> trillian, no, not be default, as i experienced
[07:36] <trillian> nalioth: Thanks. What is it?
[07:36] <Fabian> nalioth, no, it's fabian so /home/fabian
[07:36] <nalioth> trillian: is a metapkg with gnu c compiler, and other stuff you need to build things
[07:37] <nalioth> Fabian: then you gave your box another user home directory, which is still not too good
[07:37] <Fabian> alright
[07:37] <nalioth> Fabian: change the /home/daten to /mnt/whatever and then symlink /mnt/whatever into your homedir
[07:37] <trillian> nalioth: Thank you. I'll try it right now.
[07:37] <Bicky> this is quite a busy channel
[07:38] <HappyFool> Fabian: (in your fstab line) what's the 'auto' option in field 4 for ? Did you maybe mean noauto? I've skimmed the man pages but can't find a reference to it
[07:38] <nalioth> reka: need to borrow a hammer to make some space on that drive?
[07:38] <nalioth> HappyFool: auto means mount when the machine starts, noauto means you have to issue "mount whatever/whatever"
[07:38] <HappyFool> nalioth: hrm. ok, man fstab only has noauto
[07:39] <reka> nalioth: ah.  so *that's* the problem then?  no space?
[07:39] <Fabian> HappyFool, don't know anything about those options. Found them on http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:39] <nalioth> reka: idk. r u out of space?
[07:40] <HappyFool> Fabian: ok, seems all right. i think 'auto' might be the default, but i guess having it will do no harm
[07:40] <Fabian> ok
[07:40] <reka> nalioth: well, the partitions use all the drive.  is that what you mean?
[07:40] <nalioth> reka: not bein in your shoes (or vnc'd into your machine, i have no clue why you cant play with parted)
[07:40] <goye2cz> anyone here have success installing a tascam us122 with ubuntu?
[07:41] <nalioth> HappyFool: just saves having to issue "mount /path/to/whatever" by hand every time
[07:41] <TheSquire> Hey guys
[07:41] <HappyFool> nalioth: isn't 'auto' implicit ?
[07:41] <TheSquire> I have a question
[07:41] <mindspin> reka you can get information on your harddrives by using the command du
[07:41] <makaveli0129> does anyone know where i can get a fairly small debian based live cd?
[07:41] <mindspin> du = disk usage
[07:42] <nalioth> HappyFool: 'noauto' is the default
[07:42] <TheSquire> is ubuntu a good distro for kinda newbies? I've used fc2 before...
[07:42] <nalioth> makaveli0129: damnsmalllinux.org
[07:42] <makaveli0129> thank you
[07:42] <ryan_> re: gparted/qparted, I had the same problem and  thought a google search stated that neither could resize an active partition/drive.  Must be unmounted
[07:42] <nalioth> TheSquire: its the best for newbies
[07:42] <HappyFool> nalioth: you sure? ;) cos i have a line like this: '/dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    ro,umask=000    0       0' and my ntfs partition is always mounted on boot
[07:42] <TheSquire> nalioth: how so?
[07:42] <Fabian> gotta reboot. cu later
[07:42] <nalioth> reka: see what ryan sed, and pull out your liveCD
[07:43] <trillian> TheSquire: I just installed Ubuntu about 2 hours ago and I have never used linux in my life. I like it.  It's not hard.
[07:43] <nalioth> HappyFool: not sure, but i don't mess with NTFS at all
[07:43] <reka> thanks ryan_
[07:43] <ryan_> np
[07:43] <HappyFool> nalioth: nothing to do with ntfs. i mean the auto/noauto thing
[07:43] <xnoff> hey I've got a prob
[07:43] <Rockett17> nice job trillian
[07:43] <nalioth> HappyFool: and i havent owned a x86 box in over 3 years, so was helpin from memory
[07:43] <Rockett17> welcome to the nix world
[07:43] <TheSquire> trillian: cool, so the default installation is pretty easy and all?
[07:43] <xnoff> I would like to install something, but I don't have gcc set up
[07:44] <reka> xnoff: install buld-essentail
[07:44] <nalioth> HappyFool: i'm not all that deep into what magic the distro does in the absense of variables
[07:44] <Rockett17> apt-get install gcc
[07:44] <HappyFool> nalioth: check 'man mount' under the '-a' option. i think 'auto' is the default, unless vfat is special
[07:44] <reka> *buld-essential
[07:44] <xnoff> actually it gives me a $PATH error when I ./configure
[07:44] <trillian> TheSquire: Yes. There's nothing to it.  You put in the install disk (the ONE SINGLE install disk...yes) and follow the instructions on screen.
[07:44] <Shachaf> Has eepro100 really worked for everybody here out of the box?
[07:44] <mindspin> xnoff try installing binarys from the repositorie via apt-get
[07:44] <Shachaf> I can't get it to work at all, DHCP or static, eepro100 or e100.
[07:44] <TheSquire> trillian: sweet! how's package managment? pretty easy?
[07:45] <trillian> TheSquire: I am a computer science major, but I wouldn't have to be.
[07:45] <nalioth> xnoff: the package you need is "build-essential"
[07:45] <trillian> TheSquire: It's very straightforward.
[07:45] <xnoff> thanks guys
[07:45] <nalioth> TheSquire: pkg mgmt is debian, so YES its easy
[07:45] <nalioth> g2g
[07:45] <TheSquire> nalioth: debian is apt, right?
[07:45] <Rockett17> Debian rocks your socks.. i'll never got back to RedHat package management
[07:46] <TheSquire> ya thats what i heard, liked it a lot better than rpm on fc
[07:46] <jamesm> debian made apt
[07:46] <TheSquire> right
[07:46] <Rockett17> thus it runs better than apt-for-rpm
[07:46] <xnoff> wait how do I install build-essential
[07:46] <TheSquire> do you guys know anything about gentoo?
[07:47] <TheSquire> heard thats pretty easy, too
[07:47] <mindspin> sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[07:47] <mindspin> oops  minus s
[07:47] <HappyFool> TheSquire: i heard it helps if you like waiting for compiles to finish ;)
[07:48] <mindspin> but why do want compile programs yerself while not knowing about package management?
[07:48] <xnoff> ok, also I was told to uncomment universe lines in sources.list, and I think there is a command to update my apt, what is that?
[07:48] <chombee> Can anyone tell me how to mount this USB hard-drive enclosure? I can't figure out which device to fdisk or mount. Here is the output of tail /var/log/messages as I turned the device on and off a couple of times: Jun 13 13:28:53 localhost kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[07:48] <chombee> Jun 13 13:28:53 localhost kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[07:48] <chombee> Jun 13 13:28:53 localhost kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
[07:48] <chombee> Jun 13 13:28:53 localhost kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered.
[07:48] <chombee> Jun 13 13:28:53 localhost usb.agent[8612] :      usb-storage: loaded successfullyJun 13 13:31:00 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 2
[07:48] <chombee> Jun 13 13:31:38 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
[07:48] <chombee> Jun 13 13:31:38 localhost kernel: scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[07:48] <HappyFool> xnoff: sudo apt-get update
[07:48] <chombee> Jun 13 13:31:39 localhost usb.agent[8996] :      usb-storage: already loaded
[07:48] <chombee> Jun 13 13:37:30 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3
[07:48] <chombee> :
[07:48] <reka> !flood
[07:48] <ubotu> flood is, like, Head for the hills the flood has come! please use http://pastebin.com , http://ubuntu.pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.
[07:48] <HappyFool> chombee: please don't paste so much stuff
[07:49] <Rockett17> nice split
[07:49] <xnoff> thanks
[07:49] <reka> netsplit?
[07:49] <tuxie> hello. How d
[07:49] <HappyFool> heh. course flooding don't matter if there's a netsplit ;)
[07:49] <chombee> HappyFool - sorry. I didn't realise it would space it out so much
[07:49] <Fabian> re
[07:49] <TheSquire> happyfool: so gentoo is really slow?
[07:49] <chombee> So anyway - it looks like it loaded to.. what device? uhci_hcd?
[07:50] <HappyFool> TheSquire: i've never tried. i imagine that once everything is actually compiled, it's pretty fast ;)
[07:50] <TheSquire> happyfool: the 'update everything with one command' thing sounds really good tho, but thats what apt is for, too, right?
[07:50] <Rockett17> to install it takes an eon.. everything comiled from source
[07:50] <Shachaf> TheSquire: It's not slow for me.
[07:50] <Fabian> HappyFool, alright, got it mounted to /mnt/daten So how do I create that symlink now, that i got a directory in /home/username ???
[07:50] <schlomo> Hi
[07:50] <mindspin> TheSquire you have to compile everything yourself
[07:50] <TheSquire> oh okay
[07:50] <anacron> hello schlomo
[07:50] <Shachaf> TheSquire: You can use binary packages wtih Gentoo, if you really want to.
[07:50] <schlomo> does someone arrive to get his wifi card worky ?
[07:50] <TheSquire> is it a good learning exp?
[07:50] <schlomo> anacron : hi
[07:50] <Fabian> schlomo, yes, just did it!
[07:50] <anacron> schlomo: i did :)
[07:50] <HappyFool> Fabian: ln -s /mnt/daten /home/fabian/windowsmount
[07:50] <Rockett17> howver if ur gonna compile the whole bloody os.. u may as well continue compiling
[07:50] <anacron> Fabian: :D me too! just an hour ago
[07:51] <schlomo> especially a intel ipw2200 ?
[07:51] <schlomo> :)
[07:51] <anacron> bells don't ring on that one
[07:51] <eazel7> hi ppl
[07:51] <TheSquire> rockett17: true...dont really want that, just if i really feel like it
[07:51] <eazel7> I need to install a ubuntu by bootstrapping, how can I do with the basedebs.tar?
[07:52] <makaveli0129> i have a question: what kernel does the ubuntu cd use? For instance i want to set root as root=/dev/hdc2 in the boot parameter but what kernel would i put before that?
[07:52] <schlomo> anacron :  using the ubuntu network tool ?
[07:52] <BoD_SWAT> how can I create a symlink for a device (with udev stopped)? So that I may manually symlink my CD/DVD drive etc. ?
[07:52] <Fabian> schlomo, sorry, hat realtek
[07:52] <Rockett17> personally I never have the time to compile things from source when I can just apt-get them
[07:52] <goye2cz> is there a checksum program included when I install ubuntu?
[07:53] <Rockett17> unless it's apache
[07:53] <Fabian> schlomo, just try to google! Something like: yourwlanchip wlan ubuntu, or similar
[07:53] <makaveli0129> ?
[07:53] <Rockett17> which I always compile out of habit
[07:53] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: wouldn't it be easier to edit grub's /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[07:53] <schlomo> Fabian : you configure it using network tool from ubuntu ?
[07:53] <makaveli0129> happyfool: no i tried that i need to use ubuntu
[07:53] <makaveli0129> cd
[07:53] <Arakn0> hello , i've got a laptop but it has its CD-ROM and floppy-disk broken....and i want to install ubuntu...can i install it from using ethernet??? iit has windows 98 installed.
[07:53] <goo> hello. How can I get the kde-bluetooth package on ubuntu?
[07:53] <Fabian> schlomo, no, i did it using a wiki page ;)
[07:53] <makaveli0129> happyfool: do u know the kernel image?
[07:54] <chombee> Which device should I be looking at after turning on a USB enclosure? /var/log/messages seems to say it setup the device successfully, but I can't see the device name
[07:54] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: oh, i see
[07:54] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: no, sorry
[07:54] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: what are you trying to do ?
[07:54] <schlomo> Fabian : which one ?
[07:54] <reka> Arakn0: you're making things harder for yourself, aren't you? :-)
[07:54] <Fabian> schlomo, what is the manufacturer of your wlan chip?
[07:54] <dr_willis> chombee,  check 'dmesg' output, or 'fdisk -l'
[07:54] <mariusz> hi!, i'd like to use wdm as display manager together with icewm, now the question: where should i put things which suppose to autostart together with X session ? (help!)
[07:54] <TheSquire> rockett17: the problem i had with packages in fc2 was that it took them forever to get an updated gaim package, so I ended up compiling it myself. hows the repository managed/updated?
[07:54] <makaveli0129> happyfool: i need to boot into my ubuntu environment without a bootloader i just got done restoring a backup of the system after zeroing out my harddrive
[07:55] <justin> mariusz: ~/.xsession
[07:55] <scotth> anyone here with apache2 and suexec experience?  I need some help figuring out how to tell it the proper docroot
[07:55] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: can't you perhaps use chroot ?
[07:55] <mariusz> justin: is there a global config file for it?
[07:55] <schlomo> Fabian : ipw2200 module
[07:55] <schlomo> Fabian : intel
[07:55] <Arakn0> well...i dint choose
[07:55] <makaveli0129> happyfool: how would i do that?
[07:56] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: well, first you need to get to a command prompt after booting off the CD
[07:56] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> well they finally released FC4
[07:56] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: i guess you can just use the live cd, that should work
[07:56] <makaveli0129> happyfool: how would i boot off the cd
[07:56] <chombee> "new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2" - is uhci_hcd the device name?
[07:56] <makaveli0129> happyfool: i don't have a debian live cd all i have is gentoo and i already that one and it don't work
[07:56] <justin> mariusz: depends on what you are trying to do
[07:56] <Fabian> schlomo, a pcmcia or inbuilt?
[07:57] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: so you don't have any ubuntu cd's ?
[07:57] <anacron> schlomo is such a rude guy :(
[07:57] <anacron> first he asks me, and then won't even listen
[07:57] <makaveli0129> happyfool:i have the ubuntu install cd and that is it
[07:57] <mariusz> justin: LOL :) I'd like to start gkrellm and rox as a Desktop for every user that logs in :>
[07:57] <anacron> well that's not my problem, i'll go back to do some stuff ->
[07:57] <schlomo> Fabian : inbuilt
[07:57] <dr_willis> chombee,  mine prints out a message like --> SCSI device sdh: 490234752 512-byte hdwr
[07:57] <schlomo> anacron : ??
[07:58] <makaveli0129> happyfool: what would be the boot parameter to get into a command line?
[07:58] <goye2cz> how do I do a checksum in ubuntu?
[07:58] <dr_willis> chombee,  where sdh is the drives name, so sdh1 would be the first parthion
[07:58] <anacron> schlomo: you asked me, and when i answered you won't even listen
[07:58] <mjr> goye2cz, md5sum or sha1sum, for example
[07:58] <justin> mariusz: you can change the default window manager/session manager with update-alternatives, and add a file in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ for gkrellm
[07:58] <magog> anyone got DR17 goin?
[07:58] <anacron> schlomo: check your private msgs
[07:58] <Fabian> schlomo, try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623
[07:58] <schlomo> anacron : sorry didn't see
[07:59] <goye2cz> mjr: are either of those in an app menu?
[07:59] <mjr> goye2cz, probably not, they're command line apps
[07:59] <schlomo> Fabian : nope I'm not using wpa
[07:59] <schlomo> Fabian : but wep ;-)
[07:59] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: i'm not sure. have you tried booting it, getting to the first install screen and then pressing Alt-F2 ? Or checking if there's a 'rescue' mode?
[07:59] <mariusz> justin: o.k. thanks, i'll check that out :)
[07:59] <xnoff> compiling tells me it can't find libncurses
[08:00] <xnoff> does anyone know what that means?
[08:00] <xnoff> I installed build-essentials
[08:00] <xnoff> I installed build-essential
[08:00] <Fabian> schlomo, then do it anyway, without installing the firmware. Just the driver part
[08:00] <HappyFool> xnoff: means you need to install more stuff ;)
[08:00] <justin> xnoff: why are you compiling something?
[08:00] <GNULinuxer> I can't install a lot of apps, the md5sum is not matching ... any solutions?
[08:00] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: just a moment
[08:00] <magog> im trying to follow http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&page=1&pp=10 and get it installed, im at the point where i need to make that prefrences file but i dont know how
[08:00] <xnoff> justin: kismet
[08:00] <makaveli0129> happyfool: no i haven't tried pressing alt f2 at the install screen i will try that right now
[08:00] <schlomo> Fabian : ok I will check
[08:00] <schlomo> Fabian : thanks
[08:00] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: ah-ha!
[08:00] <xnoff> justin: I don't think they have a package
[08:00] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: according to this page: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ReleaseNotes504/document_view   -- there's a rescue mode in the install process
[08:01] <mjr> GNULinuxer, see topic
[08:01] <Fabian> schlomo, for further help try google: ipw2200 ubuntu
[08:01] <xnoff> HappyFool: what do I need to install?
[08:01] <justin> xnoff: something wrong with the kismet package that you already have?
[08:01] <xnoff> I don't have a kismet package
[08:01] <justin> xnoff: yes you do
[08:01] <xnoff> where?
[08:01] <HappyFool> xnoff: kismet is in hoary universe. not that i know what kismet is ;)
[08:02] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: when you boot the install CD, can you see a 'rescue' option of any sort
[08:02] <magog> will someone help me?
[08:02] <dr_willis> magog,  depends on the question.
[08:02] <Razor-X> hmmmm
[08:02] <xnoff> justin: for powerpc too?
[08:02] <Razor-X> what's wrong with LaTeX?
[08:02] <xnoff> oops sorry that was for happyfool
[08:02] <magog> im trying to follow http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&page=1&pp=10 and get it installed, im at the point where i need to make that prefrences file but i dont know how
[08:03] <Fabian> can anyone explain me a little part of /etc/network/interfaces ???
[08:03] <HappyFool> xnoff: not a clue, sorry
[08:03] <Razor-X> well, first of all, is us.archive.ubuntu down?
[08:03] <HappyFool> xnoff: you have searched for it in synaptic (or using apt-cache), haven't you?
[08:03] <makaveli0129> happyfool: i don't have that distro of ubuntu
[08:03] <HappyFool> xnoff: and you do have 'universe' enabled
[08:03] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: doh
[08:03] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: ok, let's try the Alt-F2 thing then
[08:03] <magog> i need to make a few files, but in the file browser i dont have permissions and im confused, i know i have to do it from the commandline but i dont know how,  know its noobish but ide appreciate the help
[08:03] <raptoid> hi dudes..
[08:03] <raptoid> help me..
[08:03] <justin> xnoff: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=kismet
[08:03] <raptoid> raptoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo -s
[08:03] <raptoid> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 0440
[08:03] <Razor-X> magog: gtksu gedit /etc/apt/preferences
[08:03] <raptoid> raptoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo -s -H
[08:03] <basti__> hello
[08:03] <FR500> hello
[08:03] <raptoid> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 0440
[08:03] <raptoid> raptoid@ubuntu:~$
[08:04] <raptoid> ?
[08:04] <raptoid> raptoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo -s -H
[08:04] <raptoid> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 0440
[08:04] <raptoid> ?
[08:04] <basti__> can someone help me to get my 5.1 NVidia SOund to run?
[08:04] <raptoid> help me
[08:04] <FR500> so gdesklets don't work for me in ubuntu, andy ideas on why?
[08:04] <justin> raptoid: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 0440
[08:04] <djm62> raptoid: we all saw the first time....
[08:04] <Razor-X> justin: and how would you edit that without sudo access, hmmm?
[08:04] <raptoid> i dont no
[08:04] <raptoid> ?
[08:04] <Razor-X> ;)
[08:04] <djm62> boot from livecd
[08:04] <Razor-X> yeah, or a floppy distro
[08:04] <magog> Razor-X, command not found
[08:04] <Fabian> how do i deactivate, that stupid clock syncronizing with some ubuntu server????
[08:04] <HappyFool> or in rescue mode ;)
[08:05] <xnoff> LOL
[08:05] <xnoff> ok I found it
[08:05] <xnoff> pardon my ignorance
[08:05] <raptoid> help meee
[08:05] <djm62> raptoid: do you have the ubuntu livecd?
[08:05] <Razor-X> magog: don't you know the gtk sudo command?
[08:05] <reka> Arakn0: iirc, you can do an install with floppies (i'm not certain though).  best option is to just buy a $5 drive.
[08:05] <reka> Razor-X: are you asking?
[08:05] <reka> magog: sudo gedit /etc/apt/preferences
[08:05] <goye2cz> checking again, anyone have any success with installing a tascam us122?
[08:05] <raptoid> djm62, no
[08:05] <xnoff> HappyFool: that's ok, but I just got an md5sum error...
[08:05] <djm62> raptoid: any livecd?
[08:05] <HappyFool> xnoff: us archives are broken
[08:05] <Razor-X> reka: i'm asking about Ubuntu's downtime, it seems
[08:05] <raptoid> no
[08:05] <xnoff> HappyFool: does this mean I have to manually instlal that componant
[08:05] <raptoid> djm62, no
[08:05] <xnoff> HappyFool: so use a foreign one?
[08:05] <HappyFool> xnoff: in /etc/apt/sources.list, change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com
[08:05] <chombee> all I get is "usb-storage: device found at 2", can't figure the device name to use
[08:06] <xnoff> HappyFool: thanks
[08:06] <reka> Razor-X: ah, yeah i think us.archive has been sporadic
[08:06] <chombee> it's using SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage
[08:06] <raptoid> help me
[08:06] <basti__> no idea?
[08:06] <HappyFool> raptoid: boot into rescue mode and change the permissions of /etc/sudoers
[08:06] <magog> ok how do you make one like that but specifying the file extension...for instance the .dekstop i need to make
[08:06] <Fabian> how do i deactivate, that stupid clock syncronizing with some ubuntu server????
[08:06] <HappyFool> raptoid: chmod 600 /etc/sudoers
[08:07] <raptoid> "chmod 0440"
[08:07] <raptoid> ?
[08:07] <raptoid> ok HappyFool
[08:07] <HappyFool> raptoid: sorry
[08:07] <djm62> raptoid: yeah 0440
[08:07] <HappyFool> raptoid: you were right
[08:07] <raptoid> ok thanks
[08:07] <djm62> raptoid: you happy enough to get into rescue mode?
[08:07] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: you getting anywhere?
[08:07] <reka> magog: fyi, linux doesn't need extensions.  to put one, just name the file with the extension e.g. "file.ext"
[08:07] <chx> I have changed the control file for a .deb , how could I rebuild it?
[08:08] <Fabian> how do i deactivate, that stupid clock syncronizing with some ubuntu server????
[08:08] <HappyFool> Fabian: please don't repeat your question quite so often
[08:08] <richard> I'm getting an MD5sum mismatch off an 'apt-get install mbmon' from the us mirror.  Is this a US mirror problem?
[08:08] <magog> ok, so do it in text editor like anything else than save as and name it the .extension i need?
[08:08] <reka> Fabian: right-click ->adjust?
[08:08] <Fabian> HappyFool, i want it to stop!!! ;)
[08:08] <reka> magog: yep
[08:09] <magog> ty, i appreciate your patience with my stupid questions
[08:09] <bob2> richard: yes
[08:09] <caonex> how can i install ubuntu from a .iso in a partition other than the root will be one?
[08:09] <bob2> dont use it
[08:09] <reka> magog: you're learning, it's acceptable.
[08:09] <magog> at least im learning, i learn new stuff every day that makes me love linux more and more
[08:09] <bob2> caonex: you can't install from a .iso on disk
[08:09] <magog> reka, yup
[08:09] <reka> magog: that's a good approach :-)
[08:10] <raz> Anyone got K3B working under ubuntu?
[08:10] <bob2> lots of people have
[08:10] <Fabian> reka: as far as i can see everythings deactivated.... but it still keeps syncronising at the startup
[08:10] <xnoff> HappyFool: so my app installed... how do I open it now?
[08:10] <Rockett17> I installed it by enabling the root account>> installing it>> running the root set-up and then disabling the root set-up
[08:10] <Rockett17> root account^
[08:10] <HappyFool> xnoff: never used kismet ;)
[08:10] <xnoff> HappyFool: should it be in the menu though?
[08:10] <raz> bob2, so it's not only for KDE?
[08:11] <HappyFool> xnoff: you can find out what files it's installed using synaptic
[08:11] <HappyFool> xnoff: some apps appear there, some don't
[08:11] <HappyFool> xnoff: at a guess, try starting a terminal, and type kismet<Enter>
[08:11] <chombee> Any know a good channel I should join for support with USB devices?
[08:11] <HappyFool> chombee: what device is it?
[08:12] <reka> Fabian: hmm.  i'm not certain if this is actually what you want, but you could do this to disable it: http://ubuntuguide.org/#synchronizingclocktooslow
[08:12] <Shachaf> Well, I'm booting to the Ubuntu live CD to see if the networking will work there. If it does, what would the relevant settings be that I should use in my Ubuntu installation?
[08:12] <chombee> HappyFool - 3.5" external HD enclosure, bytetec ME-740
[08:12] <vladuz976> hey there, is it true that ubuntu disables root by default?
[08:12] <Rockett17> yes
[08:12] <reka> Fabian: it might also be that you've enabled UTC in the clock prefs.
[08:12] <chombee> vladuz976 - yes, it uses sudo
[08:12] <Shachaf> vladuz976: Yes.
[08:12] <Shachaf> vladuz976: You can use sudo, though.
[08:13] <HappyFool> chombee: and what ubuntu are you running ? 5.04 (hoary) ? on a conventional intel/amd pc ?
[08:13] <reka> Fabian: disregard my last comment :-) UTC is unix time
[08:13] <chombee> HappyFool - yes
[08:13] <magog> ive done everything flawlessly like told from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&page=1&pp=10 BUT i cant connect to deb http://soulmachine.net/debian unstable/ which is the repository that has DR17
[08:13] <chombee> well, an IBM laptop
[08:13] <djm62> Universal Time Central...from the french
[08:13] <reka> actually, no it's not ... i was right the first tmime
[08:13] <djm62> because greenwich mean time is too parochial
[08:14] <HappyFool> chombee: and it's not auto-mounted when you plug it in?
[08:14] <trillian> I downloaded and decompressed build-essential but I don't think it's installed.  Forgive me, I'm new at this.
[08:14] <djm62> (and we all know, earth is at the centre of the universe ;) )
[08:14] <vladuz976> i heard you can't browse files in nautilus and stuff
[08:14] <chombee> HappyFool - no, doesn't seem to be, I don't see it anywhere
[08:14] <HappyFool> trillian: you should need to download and decompress it -- just apt-get install it
[08:14] <magog> can anyone else connect to deb http://soulmachine.net/debian unstable/ maybe im doing it wrong......or maybe theres another repo
[08:14] <Shachaf> vladuz976: What do you mean?
[08:14] <reka> a female in #ubuntu.  that's a rare sight.
[08:14] <djm62> trillian: did you manually download it, rather than using a package tool?
[08:14] <HappyFool> trillian: should *not* need to
[08:14] <HappyFool> chombee: hrm
[08:14] <Shachaf> vladuz976: What would be the point if you couldn't?
[08:14] <djm62> trillian: apt-get install build-essential
[08:15] <HappyFool> chombee: ok, let's try mounting it manually
[08:15] <djm62> reka: not that rare...
[08:15] <HappyFool> chombee: let me just plug in my memory stick and see where it appears ....
[08:15] <chombee> HappyFool - dmesg and /var/log/messages seem to show the device being detected, but not mounted, and no device name
[08:15] <reka> djm62: really? can you name others?
[08:15] <squinn> Question of convience for #ubuntu.
[08:15] <HappyFool> chombee: it'll probably be /dev/sda1 or something
[08:15] <vladuz976> in #fedora they tell me those things
[08:15] <trillian> HappyFool: I already dl'd in manually.  apt-get install... I can ruin that from the command prompt?
[08:15] <djm62> reka: honestly, I don't keep track....not my bag ;)
[08:15] <vladuz976>  iwas  considering ubuntu
[08:16] <HappyFool> trillian: yip
[08:16] <trillian> HappyFool: run, even
[08:16] <squinn> Uh, everytime I need to boot my computer up, I need to login then type "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" and "sudo ifup wlan0" to start web
[08:16] <squinn> is there an easier way to have those commands performed on boot?
[08:16] <HappyFool> Triffid_Hunter: see what djm62 said earlier. 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[08:16] <chombee> HappyFool - Unable to open /dev/sda
[08:16] <bob2> squinn: so, put ndiswrapper in /etc/modules
[08:16] <reka> djm62: :-)  i didn't mean it that way...
[08:16] <squinn> ah ok
[08:16] <Fabian> reka, what exactly disables "sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/service_name" ???? In the document you pointed out, it just sais "disable boot-up service"
[08:17] <djm62> Triffid_Hunter: also, apt-get build-dep packagename
[08:17] <reka> Fabian: i'd first see if you've enabled UTC in the clock's prefs.
[08:17] <HappyFool> chombee: /dev/sda1, not /dev/sda -- and you need to mount it (err, maybe you know how to mount devices?)
[08:17] <squinn> okay, bob2 ..but after i do that, how can i get boot to "ifup wlan0"?
[08:17] <trillian> HappyFool: blimey that was easy. deleting weird crap I did previously.... thanks ^_^
[08:17] <Xosgyz> Anyone have any experience setting up LVM on initial installation?
[08:17] <Fabian> reka, nope i haven't
[08:17] <djm62> Triffid_Hunter: ie, if you have a gnome/gtk package to build, apt-get build-dep gaim would probably get most of what you need....
[08:17] <reka> Fabian: topic title: "Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org"
[08:18] <chombee> HappyFool -  I was trying to use fdisk to see what partitions are on the device, I can't try to mount it without the partition name
[08:18] <HappyFool> trillian: fwiw, build-essential is just a fake package which depends on gcc, g++ and make (possibly others)
[08:18] <HappyFool> chombee: hrm, good idea
[08:18] <HappyFool> chombee: did you sudo ?
[08:18] <HappyFool> chombee: 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' ?
[08:18] <chombee> HappyFool - sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[08:18] <trillian> HappyFool: Then I may have to do something further.  I'll see if thsi does what I need itto.
[08:19] <vladuz976> hey do you guys think ubuntu is a good distro for me as a newbie?
[08:19] <chombee> HappyFool - with -l it gives no output
[08:19] <HappyFool> chombee: sub-optimal
[08:19] <mdke> vladuz976, we are biased, but yes
[08:19] <djm62> vladuz976: yeah...
[08:19] <Seveas> gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodevening #ubuntu!
[08:19] <mdke> greetings
[08:19] <HappyFool> chombee: how many files do you see if you do ls -l /dev/sd?     ?
[08:19] <Seveas> </robin williams>
[08:19] <HappyFool> (the ? is part of the command ;)
[08:19] <vladuz976> mdke, yes biased, but seriously is it userfriendly?
[08:20] <chombee> HappyFool - No such file or directory
[08:20] <mdke> vladuz976, extremely. I am not aware of any that are easier to use :)
[08:20] <HappyFool> chombee: um
[08:20] <Seveas> vladuz976, yes, very userfriendly and newbie-friendly
[08:20] <HappyFool> chombee: so /dev/sda doesn't even exist ?
[08:20] <metzen> im not biased (i dont use ubuntu), and i say it would be a great place to start
[08:20] <vladuz976> mdke, mandrake?
[08:20] <mdke> vladuz976, also the community is good and there is plenty of help
[08:20] <dr_willis> userfriendly = a term that means very little these days
[08:20] <Soft-ware> hey all
[08:20] <dr_willis> :P
[08:20] <mdke> vladuz976, i haven't used mandrake much
[08:20] <Soft-ware> does anyone have a working apt-get source.list
[08:20] <raptoid> raptoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo -s -H
[08:20] <raptoid> Password:
[08:20] <raptoid> raptoid is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[08:20] <dr_willis> ubuntu's homepage and wiki and channels do have some VERY good docs and advice.
[08:20] <raptoid> help me
[08:20] <mdke> vladuz976, but the best thing with linux is to pick a good distro, then stick with it, and you learn :)
[08:20] <raptoid> offf
[08:20] <Seveas> Soft-ware, paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[08:21] <vladuz976> mdke, can all the dbian apy get be used
[08:21] <infralite> hello, is it possible to upgrade from 4.10 to the current stable version?
[08:21] <HappyFool> chombee: if you do 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi', do you see an 'Attached devices' line ?
[08:21] <djm62> raptoid: has someone messed with your system?
[08:21] <Seveas> vladuz976, with care...
[08:21] <bob2> raptoid: login as the first user who was created during the install
[08:21] <Soft-ware> Seveas, what is this?
[08:21] <reka> infralite: yep, someone has the onle-line update...
[08:21] <bob2> raptoid: then run 'sudo adduser raptoid admin'
[08:21] <Seveas> Soft-ware, that is a url to a working sources.list
[08:21] <mdke> vladuz976, you can't use all the debian packages, but the apt system is the same yes
[08:21] <Xosgyz> Is it possible to setp LVM from the installation CD?
[08:21] <reka> *one-line
[08:21] <bob2> infralite: of course
[08:21] <Shachaf> Hmm. Neither Ubuntu nor its live CD recognize my eepro100, even though other distributions do.
[08:21] <vladuz976> mdke, so so ubuntu is a good one to pick? how long has it been for you?
[08:21] <Soft-ware> oh ok gracias amigo
[08:21] <infralite> ah, online update?
[08:21] <chombee> HappyFool - doesn't look like /dev/sda exists
[08:21] <bob2> Shachaf: e100 is the driver it would use
[08:21] <bob2> infralite: or from the hoary cd
[08:21] <infralite> no need to download cd?
[08:21] <mdke> vladuz976, about 6 months i guess
[08:22] <infralite> hmm
[08:22] <bob2> infralite: of course
[08:22] <mdke> hey bob2
[08:22] <Seveas> infralite, only 1 cd: to install it :)
[08:22] <HappyFool> chombee: so i see. to repeat from earlier: if you do 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi', do you see an 'Attached devices' line ?
[08:22] <infralite> hehe
[08:22] <Seveas> but after that it's infinetly updtaable via internet
[08:22] <Shachaf> bob2: I know.
[08:22] <mdke> bob2, you were helping me with my debian system the other day, glad to say that it is now workind :D
[08:22] <mdke> d/g
[08:22] <Shachaf> bob2: I tried both eepro100 and e100.
[08:22] <infralite> ah, i thought that old versions would become unsupported
[08:22] <chombee> HappyFool '$ cat /proc/scsi/scsi' gives 'Attached devices:'
[08:22] <Shachaf> bob2: With DHCP and static IP.
[08:23] <HappyFool> chombee: is that it?
[08:23] <Soft-ware> Seveas, well man there is 2 source.list listed there which one i take the first one or the second one?
[08:23] <djm62> infralite: they do eventually....but I think hoary has until 2006 at the earliest
[08:23] <HappyFool> chombee: i mean, does it list any devices there ?
[08:23] <chombee> HappyFool - yeah, looks like no scsi devices
[08:23] <infralite> would i upgrade through synaptic or apt?
[08:23] <Fabian> reka, there is no service_name in my /etc/init.d
[08:23] <HappyFool> chombee: suboptimal
[08:23] <Seveas> Soft-ware, hehe, you never used a pastebin right?
[08:23] <infralite> or is there another means?
[08:23] <Seveas> Soft-ware, take the first one
[08:24] <Fabian> hi Seveas
[08:24] <Seveas> hi Fabian
[08:24] <chombee> HappyFool - i see this in dmesg: scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[08:24] <Fabian> got my wlan card up and running! :D
[08:24] <reka> Fabian: see the topic links before that line? http://ubuntuguide.org/#permanentlydisableenableboot-upservices
[08:24] <Seveas> great!
[08:24] <djm62> infralite: you would need to change your sources.list, then apt-get dist-upgrade, and that's that
[08:24] <Soft-ware> Seveas, thanks dude and no i never used the pastebin hehe sorry
[08:24] <mdke> Seveas, btw, there is also http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ExampleConffiles for model sources.lists :D
[08:24] <infralite> ah
[08:24] <Seveas> mdke, thanks, didn't know that one yet
[08:25] <djm62> infralite: when breezy is released, there will be clear instructions on how to update on the web, telling you what to change
[08:25] <reka> Fabian: actually, you might want to ask Seveas.  i'm not completely sure if that will fix your prob.
[08:25] <Fabian> reka, yep see that one! can't chmod it if there is no such thing as /etc/init.d/service_name
[08:25] <mdke> Fabian, that is a bad way to disable boot services
[08:25] <infralite> djm62: then onto hoary for now
[08:25] <HappyFool> chombee: can you put the output of dmesg up here: http://rafb.net/paste/
[08:25] <Seveas> fabbione, what are you trying to do?
[08:25] <djm62> infralite: I'm using it...it's good :)
[08:25] <HappyFool> chombee: tell me the URL when you're done
[08:25] <infralite> djm62: lol
[08:25] <Fabian> alright then: Seveas, how do i disable that clock syncronizing with some ubuntu server on boot-up?
[08:26] <mdke> Fabian, there is a program that you can install if you wish to disable boot services, it is called Bootup Manager, you can find it on the forums
[08:26] <Fabian> mdke: what's the better way?
[08:26] <infralite> i'm happy with ubuntu too, no need to convince me :)
[08:26] <mdke> Fabian, otherwise, just uninstall ntpdate
[08:26] <HappyFool> chombee: i googled for your drive model and got 0 hits -- you said it's a bytetec ME-740 ?
[08:26] <Seveas> Fabian, chmod 000 /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[08:26] <reka> Fabian: you replace "service_name" with the service you are trying to disable. in this case, it's "ntpdate"
[08:26] <Fabian> reka, ah i see! :D
[08:26] <reka> Fabian: you've just learnt the shortcomings of ubguide!
[08:26] <FR500> reka, why not using BUM?
[08:26] <infralite> djm62: so dist-upgrade doesn't exist for now?
[08:26] <mdke> this method of disabling boot services is against debian policy
[08:26] <mdke> Seveas, reka ^^
[08:27] <Fabian> reka, i reckon I'm pretty fast learning! I got ubuntu since three days and never used linux before! :D
[08:27] <djm62> infralite: dist-upgrade exists, and you are free to use breezy, but it isn't recommended
[08:27] <HappyFool> mdke: please teach us the true way, oh master :-)
[08:27] <reka> FR500: probably cos i have no idea what it is. L-/
[08:27] <Seveas> mdke, yeah, update-rc.d is the preferred way :)
[08:27] <Seveas> update-rc.d ntpdate remove
[08:27] <mdke> Fabian, you can get a nice program to do it, here: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[08:27] <mdke> yeah that way is good too
[08:27] <infralite> djm62: hmm, but can't i get a dst-upgrade for hoary? i'm using an earlier version
[08:28] <FR500> reka, it's a graphical too for doing that
[08:28] <infralite> *dist
[08:28] <chombee> HappyFool - http://rafb.net/paste/results/oHTXyG26.html I couldn't find any Linux stuff about it on google, hold on
[08:28] <mdke> HappyFool, i'm not being anal, it is just not recommended
[08:28] <reka> FR500: ah, cheers.
[08:28] <raz> Anyone knows how to change the font of K3B?..
[08:28] <djm62> infralite: oh, yeah...look on the wiki for warty->hoary instructions, and be prepared for some downloading
[08:28] <HappyFool> mdke: sorry, i meant that semi-seriously
[08:28] <HappyFool> mdke: as in, what do you recommend
[08:28] <mdke> HappyFool, see the introduction section at http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bumdocs.html
[08:28] <infralite> djm62: ah, ok. thanks :D that was all i wanted
[08:28] <Fabian> Seveas, i just did chomd it. So that's bad? what else instead?
[08:29] <chombee> HappyFool - Bytecc ME-740
[08:29] <Seveas> chombee, /dev/sdb doesn't work?
[08:29] <basti__> hello, I have Ubuntu with ESD Sound as Standartm is that normal?
[08:29] <Seveas> Fabian, chown isn't that bad
[08:29] <chombee> Seveas - no, nor sdc, sdd
[08:29] <mdke> Fabian, that has some bad effects, but if in the future you want it to work, and have problems with it, just reinstall ntpdate
[08:29] <Seveas> Fabian, the official way is update-rc.d ntpdate remove
[08:29] <chombee> Seveas - I did sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[08:29] <HappyFool> Seveas: he doesn't have any /dev/sd? files
[08:29] <Seveas> chombee, just du sudo fdisk -l
[08:30] <Fabian> Seveas, where is the difference?
[08:30] <djm62> infralite: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes
[08:30] <infralite> ah, you're fater than me :P
[08:30] <Seveas> Fabian, fdisk -l will list *all* available partitions
[08:30] <infralite> *faster
[08:30] <mdke> Fabian, it is explained here: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bumdocs.html
[08:30] <HappyFool> Seveas: wow. didn't know that
[08:30] <HappyFool> Seveas: also, /proc/scsi/scsi doesn't list any 'attached devices'
[08:30] <Seveas> hmm
[08:31] <Seveas> usb_storage is loaded?
[08:31] <chombee> Seveas - all I got is hda1,2,5,6. Strangely hda2 is 'W96 Ext'd (LBA)'. Bizarre
[08:31] <HappyFool> Seveas: yeah, see http://rafb.net/paste/results/oHTXyG26.html
[08:31] <Seveas> basti__, yes, ESD is standard
[08:31] <basti__> Seveas, my 5.1 Sound doesn work
[08:31] <basti__> only stereo
[08:31] <Seveas> chombee, that's not bizarre
[08:31] <HappyFool> chombee: it's just an extended partition -- 5 and 6 are elements of that extended partition
[08:31] <Fabian> Seveas, i get en error message when doint "update-rc.d ntpdate remove"
[08:32] <mdke> Fabian, that is because you did the chmod
[08:32] <Seveas> basti__, look at wiki.ubuntu.com , go to HoarySoundProblems
[08:32] <chombee> Seveas, happyFool - but why the win?
[08:32] <Fabian> mdke, how to undo?
[08:32] <HappyFool> chombee: dunno. it doesn't matter ;) cos it's not helping you find your usb drive
[08:32] <Seveas> chombee, that's how fdisk calls extended partitions
[08:32] <Seveas> Fabian, which error?
[08:32] <basti__> okay
[08:33] <peter2> i have a problem installing an upgrade for firefox through smart upgrade synaptic
[08:33] <chombee> HappyFool, Seveas - okay. I just thought it was suspicous. I tried mounting that partition earlier, not good
[08:33] <mdke> Fabian, you need to change the permissions back.
[08:33] <Seveas> chombee, can you see the device with lshw?
[08:33] <mdke> Fabian, but it is probably easier to leave it now
[08:33] <Seveas> and lsusb?
[08:33] <anacron> would somebody help me install stepmania?
[08:33] <Fabian> Seveas, update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/ntpdate exists during rc.d purg (use -f to force)
[08:33] <Seveas> hmm, ah stupid me
[08:33] <Razor-X> I don't think there's any hard in removing your deb cache, is there?
[08:33] <Seveas> remove doesn't work...
[08:33] <Fabian> what else?
[08:33] <Seveas> you have to give it a different argument
[08:33] <peter2> can someone have a look at this ?
[08:34] <Seveas> that's why I always do the chmod trick :D
[08:34] <peter2> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libc/libcairo/libcairo1_0.3.0-1_i386.deb
[08:34] <peter2>   MD5Sum mismatch
[08:34] <Razor-X> *anything wrong
[08:34] <anacron> peter2: topic
[08:34] <Seveas> peter2, look at the topic
[08:34] <Seveas> peter2: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[08:34] <mdke> is that problem in the topic?
[08:34] <Seveas> Razor-X, apt-get clean will clean it out for you
[08:34] <anacron> Seveas: have you binded button for that :D
[08:34] <peter2> tx
[08:34] <mdke> aha
[08:34] <Fabian> Seveas, so what do i do now?
[08:34] <concept10> Seveas, I come from a Red Hat based world.  How do I list my services in the current run level.  No ckconfig...
[08:34] <Seveas> anacron, for the sed thing: yes
[08:34] <anacron> :D
[08:35] <anacron> it was just too fast
[08:35] <Seveas> concept10, ls /etc/rc2.d/S*
[08:35] <mdke> concept10, there is no tool sadly
[08:36] <Seveas> Fabian, well, since you did the chmod trick already: nothing :)
[08:36] <wulfepup> Ok.. so i followed the instructions in the wiki for sound (Restricted Formats) so that I'd be able to use mp3 and dvd ....but the ALSA and the OSS still give me an error when I test it. (after a reboot)
[08:36] <mdke> concept10, but you can install a gui frontend which helps: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[08:36] <Fabian> Seveas, how would i set back the permissions?
[08:36] <chombee> Seveas - I see a couple of things, my USB bus with driver=uhci_hcd, a scsi with configuration: driver=usb-storage, logical name scsi1
[08:36] <Fabian> chmod +x /etc/inti.d/ntpdate???
[08:36] <Seveas> Fabian, chmod 744 /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[08:36] <anacron> hey anyone, stepmania guide for me?
[08:37] <concept10> mdke, I will be working with Amarath to help port the Fedora tool over to ubuntu
[08:37] <sniff> hi does anybody know which ports gaim uses to recieve files
[08:37] <Fabian> Seveas, and then the other remove-thing would work?
[08:37] <mdke> concept10, you don't like that frontend?
[08:37] <Seveas> Fabian, no
[08:37] <wulfepup> "Failed to construct pipeline blah blah"
[08:37] <chombee> Seveas - man lshw says that the command does not detect USB or firewire devices
[08:37] <djm62> sniff: depends on the protocol, I think...
[08:37] <Seveas> the remove thing will not work at all
[08:37] <Fabian> Seveas, lol... ;)
[08:38] <Dilkes> i have just installed ubuntu on my pc and  was looking for an achitectural drawing progam ,does any one have any ideas
[08:38] <sniff> where did i find that protocol?
[08:38] <HappyFool> chombee: yeah, but evidently it detects scsi devices (which is how linux is seeing your usb drive)
[08:38] <concept10> mdke, BUM?
[08:38] <djm62> sniff: live up to your name...creative use of netstat ;)
[08:38] <chombee> Seveas - it also says virtual SCSI interfaces for USB mass storage are not detected properly
[08:38] <mdke> concept10, yes
[08:38] <anacron> Dilkes: gentoofiles.org, there's a plenty of good software
[08:38] <Seveas> Fabian, update-rc.d -f remove ntpdate
[08:38] <Seveas> Fabian, that'll work
[08:38] <djm62> sniff: the protocols are mostly proprietary and undocumented, sadly
[08:38] <concept10> mdke, you wrote that?
[08:39] <mdke> concept10, no
[08:39] <concept10> mdke, I havent used it yet.  Can it restart services?
[08:39] <HappyFool> what's with these ubuntu app names. bum and smeg. eish ;)
[08:39] <mdke> concept10, sure
[08:39] <Fabian> Seveas, and that is the proper way to do?
[08:39] <mdke> concept10, i think ;)
[08:39] <Seveas> Fabian, yes
[08:40] <mdke> concept10, if not, i'm sure it would not be difficult to add that functionality
[08:40] <djm62> smeg...perfectly respectable brand ;)
[08:40] <mark> buenasd
[08:40] <mark> :_p
[08:40] <peter2> seveas, what does the line do you gave a while ago ?
[08:40] <Seveas> HappyFool, the ubutu folks didn't make up these names
[08:40] <anatole> anyone knows What is the location of the directory of C header files  ?
[08:40] <KarlosII> rotflol
[08:40] <HappyFool> Seveas: i guessed as much ;)
[08:40] <anatole> vmware install is asking
[08:40] <KarlosII> http://ak.bluestreak.com//adv/msuml/%5E4765/%5E266678/Linux_711_336x280.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fadserver%2Eadtech%2Ede%3A80%2Fadlink%7C340%7C114446%7C1%7C171%7CAdId%3D329570%3BBnId%3D1%3Bitime%3D687944724%3Bku%3D251006%3Bkey%3Dbottom%3Bnodecode%3Dyes%3Blink%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fs0b%2Ebluestreak%2Ecom%2Fix%2Ee%3Ftr%26s%3D363304%26a%3D266678%26u%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww%252Emicrosoft%252Ecom%252Fuk%252Fgetthefacts%252Fdefault%252Emspx
[08:40] <Seveas> peter2, it'll make you switch to a good ubuntu mirror
[08:41] <KarlosII> oops
[08:41] <Fabian> Seveas, ya sure it's not update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove?
[08:41] <KarlosII> sry
[08:41] <Seveas> KarlosII, use tinyurl man :)
[08:41] <Seveas> Fabian, i said that :)
[08:41] <anatole> /usr/src/linux/include is the default but they are not there
[08:41] <Fabian> Seveas, nope you changed remove and ntpdate! ;)
[08:41] <Seveas> anatole, aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:42] <chombee> HappyFool, Seveas - do you think I need to mount scsi1? I think the device probably has multiple partitions, but fdisk finds nothing on /dev/scsi or /dev/scsi1
[08:42] <Seveas> Fabian, ah mixup :|
[08:42] <Dilkes> anacron I tried gentoofiles.org. Is there a typo in the name? It doesn't come up.
[08:42] <wulfepup> Ok.. so i followed the instructions in the wiki for sound (Restricted Formats) so that I'd be able to use mp3 and dvd ....but the ALSA and the OSS still give me an error when I test it. (after a reboot) "Failed to construct pipeline blah blah"
[08:42] <Fabian> Seveas, yep! ;) needs sudo, right?
[08:42] <HappyFool> chombee: i think that 'scsi1' is an internal name only
[08:42] <Seveas> wulfepup, Ubuntu uses esd, not raw also or deprecated oss
[08:42] <mark> que onda
[08:42] <Seveas> Fabian, of course :)
[08:42] <mark> hablen alguna wea
[08:42] <mark> :p
[08:42] <Seveas> mark, english please
[08:43] <Fabian> done
[08:43] <mark> OK
[08:43] <peter2> do i need to do this all the time now ?
[08:43] <mark>  hi
[08:43] <Seveas> peter2, no just this once
[08:43] <wulfepup> Seveas: Yes, I'm aware of that.. but the wiki has details for enabling the others, since some apps use them...
[08:43] <djm62> mark: espanol? there is #ubuntu-es if you prefer :)
[08:43] <anatole> KarlosII: but wtf
[08:43] <wulfepup> So I followed the instructions to find no change
[08:43] <iggy_> hello i have a question can i intall a lamp on a ubuntu desktop envoirment
[08:43] <moparfan90> anyone use fedora core 4??
[08:43] <Seveas> wulfepup, if you want to use raw also, you should disable esd
[08:43] <peter2> Thanks Seveas, you been a great help these last days for me :)
[08:43] <anatole> isn't negative advertisement illegal?
[08:44] <Seveas> moparfan90, look at the channel name...
[08:44] <wulfepup> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:44] <djm62> Seveas: is dmix derecommended?
[08:44] <Seveas> oh yes, and i am forced to uce FC at work. I hate it
[08:44] <HappyFool> iggy_: sure. just be careful not to knock it over. screwing the lamp into the case might help
[08:44] <Seveas> djm62, in fact dmix will be the default for breezy
[08:44] <iggy_> :D
[08:44] <djm62> anatole: not if it poses as research...
[08:44] <moparfan90> i know. just wanted to know if any tried it.
[08:44] <ubotu> ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT has landed!
[08:45] <raz> -_-
[08:45] <Seveas> iggy_, sudo aptitude install libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server
[08:45] <anacron> Dilkes: try google
[08:45] <Dilkes> i have just installed ubuntu on my pc and  was looking for an achitectural drawing progam ,does any one have any ideas?
[08:45] <djm62> Seveas: ah, good...one more thing I can forget how to do in linux ;)
[08:45] <iggy_> then i am gonna folllow the lamp wiki for aubuntu server
[08:45] <HappyFool> iggy_: apache2, mysql and php (or python / perl) are all available via synaptic
[08:45] <sniff> hi does anybody know which ports gaim for files uses
[08:45] <Stew2> I'm trying to help a friend out.... I was hoping for more :)
[08:45] <djm62> Stew2: specifically architecture?
[08:45] <anatole> oic
[08:46] <Fabian> Seveas, is there a good antivirus for linux which is free?
[08:46] <Seveas> Fabian, clamav
[08:46] <djm62> Stew2: there are some structured drawing programs, and some CAD tools, and 3d modellers
[08:46] <anatole> antivirus? an antivirus is needed for linux?
[08:46] <chombee> Seveas - lshw is sort of cool, doesn't the Device Manager do the same thing though?
[08:46] <Fabian> Seveas, clamav? is that a package included in ubuntu?
[08:46] <djm62> Stew2: but I think architecture is as yet unfilled :-/
[08:46] <anacron> how many viruses there is for linux?
[08:46] <Seveas> anatole, well, if you run a mailserver and wnat to provide a service to windows-running clients :)
[08:47] <anatole> :D
[08:47] <Seveas> Fabian, no idea, never tried to use it
[08:47] <anacron> :D
[08:47] <anatole> :D
[08:47] <Seveas> anacron, some...
[08:47] <anacron> Seveas: good point
[08:47] <Fabian> Seveas, lol, what do you use?
[08:47] <HappyFool> anacron: 12, i think. mcafee has a list
[08:47] <Seveas> Fabian, good sense
[08:47] <Seveas> so no antivirus
[08:47] <anacron> HappyFool: ok, but isn't those that kind you have to execute them yourself before they start working?
[08:47] <anacron> kind of*
[08:48] <HappyFool> anacron: not a clue
[08:48] <anatole> Seveas: i installed the package... what is the location for them?
[08:48] <Fabian> Seveas, there are several packages with clamav in there name in synaptic, and one actually called clamav
[08:48] <anatole> vmware still can't find it
[08:48] <Stew2> djm62, anacron THanks!
[08:48] <Seveas> anatole, then mke the symlink yourself
[08:48] <dooglus> peter2: are you there?
[08:48] <peter2> yes i am
[08:48] <Fabian> anyone knows about clamav?
[08:49] <peter2> whats up ?
[08:49] <Mahl> ugh easy fast question...i managed to mess up the gnome panel menus...whats the command for getting the theme manager up
[08:49] <djm62> Stew2: http://www.tenlinks.com/CAD/products/LINUX.HTM
[08:49] <thotypous> Mahl, gnome-theme-manager
[08:49] <Amaranth> Mahl: gnome-theme-manager? :)
[08:49] <peter2> dooglus ?
[08:49] <Mahl> ofcourse
[08:49] <raz> Anyone knows how to change the font of K3B under ubuntu/gnome?
[08:49] <djm62> Stew2: looks like I typed too soon...there are some mentioned there
[08:49] <Mahl> is there any way i can reinstall the old menus...?
[08:49] <Fabian> Seveas, is that ClamAv AntiVirus Server?????
[08:50] <Amaranth> Mahl: sudo apt-get --reinstall install gnome-menus
[08:50] <Seveas> Fabian, apt-cache search clamav
[08:50] <Seveas> Fabian, that'll show one-line descriptions too
[08:50] <netmonk> anyone having problems with you usb and the latest kernel from ubuntu?
[08:51] <dooglus> peter2: I was wondering what happened to your original account.  What happens when you try to log into Gnome with it?
[08:51] <magog> could someone that has got e17 to run please spare me a little time, pm me? ive done everything stated in the forum but havent been able to get it goin
[08:51] <Mahl> great!
[08:51] <SeamusLP> netmonk:  Are you running hoary?
[08:51] <raptoid> hi dudes..
[08:51] <netmonk> yes
[08:51] <Stew2> djm62, THat's cool. the structured drawing programs, what do you recommend?
[08:51] <peter2> it craches and I get back to gnome log-in screen
[08:51] <netmonk> yese SeamusLP
[08:51] <Fabian> alright
[08:51] <raptoid> i need example full packages sources.list ?
[08:51] <raptoid> help
[08:51] <Seveas> raptoid: Example config files can be found at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ExampleConffiles
[08:52] <djm62> Stew2: I'm no expert, but dia is nice for normal diagrams, and inkscape is good for vector illustrations
[08:52] <peter2> Seveas tried to help me out on that one to no avail, had to create a new user
[08:52] <raptoid> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com change to http://archive.ubuntu.com
[08:52] <raptoid> correct ?
[08:52] <SeamusLP> netmonk:  That's rather strange, hoary updates are security updates
[08:52] <Seveas> raptoid, correct
[08:52] <SeamusLP> netmonk:  You may want to file a bug report
[08:53] <chombee> HappyFool, Seveas - looks like we're out of leads, do you think the device is simply unsupported?
[08:53] <netmonk> SeamusLP,yesterday updated the kernel and wont recognize the usb flash memory but it works with the old kernel
[08:53] <lsuactiafner> what about a CASE tool to draw use-case diagrams ect?
[08:53] <djm62> Stew2: I have no idea what architecture involves, so best to give those a shot and then ask "like dia, but more X and less Y": for the most part that will be free
[08:53] <dooglus> peter2: that's very odd.  I would have thought that by simply renaming all your files and directories out of the way you could have fixed it.
[08:53] <netmonk> SeamusLP, where do i do that?
[08:53] <slept> how does ubotu learn ? where can I read more about that ?
[08:53] <dooglus> peter2: I guess by now you have the 'peter2' account all set up right anyway, right?
[08:53] <lsuactiafner> slept http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki
[08:53] <HappyFool> chombee: not sure. that thing about 'virtual <something> not detected properly' sounded a bit funny
[08:54] <SeamusLP> netmonk:  You've rebooted since yesterday, right?  Kernel changes don't take place until reboot
[08:54] <HappyFool> chombee: however, i am out of ideas
[08:54] <netmonk> SeamusLP, yes ;)
[08:54] <orhs> hey all! how do i install a .tar.bz2 file?    (iam installing clearlooks
[08:54] <Mahl> that didnt work Amarath
[08:54] <chombee> HappyFool - that's just the lshw command doesn't detect USB Mass storage devices that pose as virtual scsi devices
[08:54] <Stew2> djm62, Not a flow chart or diagram program. Something more like autocad, or at least a 'structured drawing program', meaning a drawing program that has rulers, so things can be drawn out to scale.
[08:54] <peter2> yes I do :)
[08:54] <Mahl> my menus are still gone
[08:54] <Seveas> orhs, clearlooks is installed already
[08:54] <dooglus> orhs: "sudo apt-get install clearlooks"
[08:54] <Mahl> I eh,...managed to delete some of the entries manually
[08:55] <Fabian> anyone knows how to update clamav?
[08:55] <HappyFool> chombee: ok, fair enough
[08:55] <lsuactiafner> orhs : tar -jxf file.tar.bz2 ; cd package_name ; ./configure ; make ; make install
[08:55] <peter2> The crashes always happened when using Totem to watch video
[08:55] <Stew2> djm62, Inkscape, checking it out now. Sounds a lot more like what he wanted. Thanks!
[08:55] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, not for clearlooks
[08:55] <orhs> seveas, oh is it? hmm
[08:55] <lsuactiafner> man clamav
[08:55] <Matthew_W> orhs: if you want to do it from source, extract the .tar.bz2, move to the folder, ./configure --prefix=/usr ;  make ; make install ; make clean
[08:55] <lsuactiafner> what is clearlocks?
[08:55] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, please do not aadice that for apps that are in the repositories
[08:55] <SeamusLP> netmonk:  I'm not really sure how you can reinstall the old kernel
[08:55] <Seveas> clearlooks is the theme enging ubuntu uses by default...
[08:55] <glDaher> trying to get kdevelop and I get this error in synaptic: W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/automake/automake1.4_1.4-p6-8_all.deb   ---  MD5Sum mismatch
[08:55] <gila> hello
[08:56] <lsuactiafner> ah
[08:56] <Seveas> glDaher, topic
[08:56] <lsuactiafner> i use blackbox..
[08:56] <Seveas> glDaher: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[08:56] <lsuactiafner> my own themse ect..
[08:56] <netmonk> SeamusLP, how do i file bug report ;)
[08:56] <gila> any one using Vaio Notebook ?
[08:56] <slept> lsuactiafner, there is nothing in the wiki :(
[08:56] <Matthew_W> glDaher:  try #kubuntu
[08:56] <SeamusLP> netmonk:  Hold on just a second
[08:56] <Seveas> Matthew_W, hmm??
[08:56] <lsuactiafner> ah well i need to study
[08:56] <lsuactiafner> stupid exams
[08:56] <Mahl> So I managed to delete some entries in the menu by hand...tried reinstalling gnome-menu...gnome-panel etc
[08:56] <lsuactiafner> should be back 22nd
[08:56] <Mahl> still no luck getting the entries back
[08:56] <Mahl> any ideas?
[08:56] <glDaher> ok Mathew_W
[08:57] <gila> any one using Vaio Notebook ?
[08:57] <Matthew_W> Seveas:  well, I figured if he was asking a KDE related question, he's probably using kubuntu, opened xchat, which made him join ubuntu by default
[08:57] <Seveas> glDaher, you don;t need to go to #kubuntu
[08:57] <gila> how to setup sound on this notebook
[08:57] <SeamusLP> netmonk: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/bugs/document_view    and I'd also post on the ubuntu forums http://www.ubuntuforums.org to see if anyone else has the problem
[08:57] <Seveas> Matthew_W, look at the question before answering...
[08:57] <Seveas> it was the md5sum stuff again
[08:57] <SeamusLP> netmonk:  If you want the old kernel you'll probably have to install it from a hoary CD, but you will of course be vulnerable to whatever has been fixed since hoary came out.
[08:58] <Mahl> Nobody has the answer eh
[08:58] <Seveas> glDaher, the us ubuntu mirror is down
[08:58] <raz> is there an easy way to convert to kubuntu or do you have to go throu a clean install?
[08:58] <Amaranth> Mahl: oh, you deleted the entries?
[08:58] <twodeko> aaargh
[08:58] <Seveas> Mahl, how did you delete the entries?
[08:58] <twodeko> im trying to figure out what i like more
[08:58] <twodeko> gentoo or ubnutu
[08:58] <PhantomFreak> How do I add command I want to be executed on startup?
[08:58] <Seveas> raz, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[08:58] <glDaher> yes Seveas I thought so...
[08:58] <dr_willis> raz,  check the kubuntu homepage. its a simple apt-get.
[08:58] <Amaranth> Mahl: Ok, well, let's say you deleted the entry for evolution. To get it back you need to reinstall evolution.
[08:58] <glDaher> and no I don't wanna use kde
[08:58] <gila> please give me a update server
[08:58] <Seveas> glDaher: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[08:59] <chombee> Is there a way to get XChat to give me a list of channels? I want to find a linux technical help channel for mounting USB devices
[08:59] <Mahl> thats the only way Amaranth ?
[08:59] <Seveas> that'll solve the md5sum errors
[08:59] <Mahl> There isnt a way to reinstall something?
[08:59] <Amaranth> Mahl: yeah
[08:59] <Amaranth> Mahl: the application installs the menu entry
[08:59] <HappyFool> chombee: Window -> Channel list
[08:59] <Mahl> well...ok thanks
[08:59] <raz> Say you want a KDE desktop.. what is recommanded? ubuntu+kde desktop or kubuntu?
[08:59] <Mahl> well bbl then thanks for the help
[08:59] <SeamusLP> twodeko:  I used gentoo for awhile, haven't looked back since changing.  Configuring sound was a little easier with gentoo because of USE flags.
[08:59] <Amaranth> Mahl: you don't lose any setting when reinstalling
[08:59] <Seveas> raz, kubuntu
[09:00] <Mahl> well...its so many things to reinstall
[09:00] <Mahl> :)
[09:00] <mjr> raz, same thing
[09:00] <twodeko> SeamusLP, but i just feel like i cant do anything on here
[09:00] <twodeko> its all preconfigured
[09:00] <magog> grrr i got a depository that works and has dr17 in my sources.list and added it to synaptic, it updates files from it but all i see is dr16
[09:00] <Matthew_W> oops =/ sorry
[09:00] <Amaranth> Mahl: next time don't go nuts in /usr/share/applications/ :)
[09:00] <Mahl> :P:P
[09:00] <Mahl> cu
[09:00] <djm62> twodeko: use whatever you're comfortable with, dude
[09:00] <Matthew_W> On another topic, anyone know anything about USB -- BitPim won't access my USB/Serial ports, it just gives me "You have no serial/com ports on your system" when I'm clearly looking right at them... this is a particularly frustrating problem.
[09:00] <Seveas> wise words djm62 :)
[09:01] <twodeko> djm62, i have been using gentoo for a while but after loosing my last install... its been a bitch to set it up again
[09:01] <SeamusLP> twodeko:  It may be preconfigured but you can learn much from reconfiguring.
[09:01] <Seveas> twodeko, ubuntu is a dream to setup :)
[09:01] <chombee> HappyFool, Seveas - thanks for the help, I'll continue elsewhere
[09:01] <twodeko> amd64 doesnt seem very refined
[09:01] <twodeko> Seveas, how so?
[09:01] <djm62> Seveas: in that you can do it in your sleep? ;)
[09:01] <twodeko> this brown theme is bothering me :p
[09:01] <Seveas> djm62, indeed ;)
[09:01] <Seveas> twodeko, than change the color
[09:02] <glDaher> yep thx Seveas
[09:02] <twodeko> Seveas, looks terrible on my LCD... but all linux's do
[09:02] <chombee> Has anyone noticed problems fetching mplayer?  And this is supposed to be an official line of support!
[09:03] <HappyFool> chombee: i meant us repo
[09:03] <Seveas> PhantomFreak: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[09:03] <orhs> i got a login mananger here but i dont know how to install
[09:03] <HappyFool> PhantomFreak: no-one here is being paid to support anyone ;)
[09:03] <Seveas> PhantomFreak, it's busy, so your question can get lost
[09:03] <slept> Matthew_W, what does lsusb tell you ?
[09:03] <twodeko> Seveas, looking to try anything else?
[09:03] <Amaranth> PhantomFreak: Also, this isn't "official", this is users trying to help other users.
[09:03] <Seveas> twodeko, i've tried xfce too
[09:03] <twodeko> because gnome has always seemed so large
[09:03] <Seveas> i liked it
[09:03] <chombee> HappyFool - this is just a friend of mine, I was setting up some multimedia a packages for him and he's been repeatedly unable to get a couple of them, mplayer ones, looks like repo is down. You say a US repo is down?
[09:03] <twodeko> Seveas, howd that work with ubuntu
[09:03] <twodeko> thats what i was running in gentoo
[09:03] <twodeko> or tried
[09:03] <Matthew_W> slept:  Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[09:03] <Matthew_W> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 1267:0210 Logic3 / SpectraVideo plc
[09:03] <Matthew_W> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[09:03] <Matthew_W> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[09:04] <Seveas> twodeko, sudo atitude install xfce4
[09:04] <twodeko> and got frustrated because it was buggy
[09:04] <magog> if you look at http://mirror.my-space.ath.cx/unstable-20050215/ they have dr17....i update my repo info to but ONLY am seeing the dr16 packagesd
[09:04] <PhantomFreak> Amaranth: Ask the Ubuntu website that!
[09:04] <Seveas> twodeko, and done :)
[09:04] <magog> why would that be?
[09:04] <Amaranth> chombee: marillat is broken too, but you shouldn't be using it anyway
[09:04] <HappyFool> chombee: yeah, the us repo. in /etc/apt/sources.list, change 'us.archive.ubuntu.com' to archive.ubuntu.com
[09:04] <orhs> how do i install a login mananger??
[09:04] <twodeko> atitude?
[09:04] <twodeko> command not found
[09:04] <Seveas> aptitude
[09:04] <Amaranth> PhantomFreak: Official just means they manage the channel, it doesn't mean we have to help everyone with everything instantly.
[09:04] <Seveas> or apt-get
[09:04] <Seveas> or synaptic
[09:04] <HappyFool> PhantomFreak: feel free to ask for a refund ;). What's your question
[09:04] <Seveas> but i prefer aptitude :)
[09:05] <chombee> HappyFool - or wait for the US one to come back up, I guess
[09:05] <SeamusLP> PhantomFreak:  There are other ways to get support if the chat is busy.  The first thing you should do anyway is check the wiki and the forums.
[09:05] <twodeko> ah thanks, apt-get is foreign to me
[09:05] <djm62> PhantomFreak: a command you want on starting the computer, or on logging in?
[09:05] <chombee> Amaranth  marillat is down?
[09:05] <Amaranth> orhs: gdm is a login manager
[09:05] <HappyFool> chombee: it's been down since friday, i think. hope you're patient ;)
[09:05] <Seveas> twodeko, apt is great
[09:05] <Seveas> beats the hell out of portage :)
[09:05] <Amaranth> yay! spam bots
[09:05] <chombee> HappyFool - I notice mplayer is on marillat though
[09:05] <twodeko> Seveas, Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "xfce4"
[09:05] <gila> any one using Vaio Notebook ?]
[09:05] <orhs> amaranth, yeah but were do i find it?
[09:05] <gila> any one using Vaio Notebook ?]
[09:05] <Matthew_W> Yay for mini netsplits
[09:05] <HappyFool> chombee: marillat the path to the dark side is
[09:05] <gila> how to setup sound on this notebook
[09:05] <djm62> who spams irc? who throws a shoe?
[09:05] <Seveas> twodeko, you need to enable universe
[09:05] <Seveas> twodeko: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:05] <Seveas> twodeko: Example config files can be found at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ExampleConffiles
[09:06] <Amaranth> that is not a split
[09:06] <HappyFool> aaargh
[09:06] <Amaranth> Seveas: SET +R, QUICK
[09:06] <chombee> at least, it looks like it is
[09:06] <Seveas> Amaranth, hm?
[09:06] <Matthew_W> Amarath:  sorry, used to mIRC
[09:06] <twodeko> thanks Seveas
[09:06] <basti> my sound doesnt work, I installed the nVidia Treiber, but I cant change some options
[09:06] <wulfy814> anone running vmware 5 in hoary - it kills my machine and offers terrible performance - P4 3.0 - 3 Gig RAM
[09:06] <djm62> 0.0
[09:06] <HappyFool> chombee: using marillat packages can be troublesome for ubuntu systems. marillat is designed for debian, afaik
[09:06] <HappyFool> what's +R do ?
[09:07] <Amaranth> +R means only registered users can join
[09:07] <Seveas> Amaranth, i have join/part msgs disabled
[09:07] <Seveas> what's up?
[09:07] <Amaranth> it'll spot the bot flood, but it'll stop normal users too
[09:07] <Amaranth> err, stop
[09:07] <Seveas> ah
[09:07] <HappyFool> i hope it's only temporary
[09:07] <Matthew_W> slept: any ideas?
[09:07] <Seveas> bot flood
[09:07] <djm62> PhantomFreak: anyway...after all that fun, do you want to run a command when you login, or when the system boots?
[09:07] <Amaranth> i'll turn it off an a minute or two
[09:07] <Seveas> good idea
[09:07] <SeamusLP> It's a good idea to register anyway
[09:08] <Seveas> and i'll keep show join/part enabled :)
[09:08] <Amaranth> gtg
[09:08] <Amaranth> Seveas: turn it off in one minute
[09:08] <Amaranth> Seveas: -R, remember
[09:08] <HappyFool> who would bother spamming on irc anyway. bah.
[09:08] <Seveas> HappyFool, unfortunately, lots of people
[09:08] <djm62> I guess irc people are rich and gullible
[09:09] <_Magog_> will anyone help me with this repo problem?
[09:09] <SeamusLP> I'm honestly not surprised.  People have come in the channel and said some pretty disgusting things
[09:09] <chombee> HappyFool - you know what, I gave him the sample sources.list from the Hoary guide, so it doesn't even contain marillat, just adds universe and multiverse I guess, so it's just the US thing. He seemed to get almost all packages though, just not a couple of mplayer ones
[09:09] <twodeko> Seveas, that was easy :p
[09:09] <Seveas> _Magog_, what's the problem
[09:09] <djm62> woot!
[09:10] <flummox> seas
[09:10] <djm62> bbiab
[09:10] <HappyFool> chombee: in that case it probably is the us.archive problem
[09:10] <_Magog_> Seveas, i add http://mirror.my-space.ath.cx/unstable-20050215/ which has DR17, but apt-get and synatpic arent picking em up...i only see DR16
[09:10] <Matthew_W> Anyone else know anything about USB hardware or BitPim?
[09:10] <Seveas> _Magog_, have you run apt-get update (or hit the reload button in synaptic)
[09:11] <_Magog_> Seveas, yes and no 404 from the repo either
[09:11] <basti> can noone help me?
[09:11] <JohnMurdoch> May someone please link me to a guide showing how to install Ubuntu on a system which currently has WinXP?
[09:11] <raptoid> Seveas,
[09:12] <raptoid> i see http://pastebin.ca/14344
[09:12] <orhs> hey
[09:12] <Matthew_W> johns^: reboot and boot from the CD - it's magnificently easy
[09:12] <PhantomFreak> How do I get a mknod command to run on boot, or create it in another way... Cos everythime I create the node I need it just disapears on boot!
[09:12] <raptoid> its correct ?
[09:12] <_Magog_> JohnMurdoch, you dun need one, if you have a partition already clean ubuntu will see windows and take over the MBR
[09:12] <raptoid> Seveas, http://pastebin.ca/14344
[09:12] <chrissturm> magog do a search for enlightenment_0.17
[09:12] <Seveas> JohnMurdoch, short guide: pop in install cd, reboot, follow the instructions
[09:12] <raptoid> you see
[09:12] <JohnMurdoch> _Magog_, hello, thanks for the helpful answer. So upon reboot, I will be presented with a choice to load Ubuntu or WinXP?
[09:12] <HappyFool> PhantomFreak: what device is it ?
[09:13] <Seveas> raptoid, hmm, that's not correct :)
[09:13] <JohnMurdoch> Seveas, hello, thank you too for the helpful answer. :) Same question
[09:13] <_Magog_> JohnMurdoch, correct
[09:13] <Matthew_W> johns^: yes, so long as you do not choose to overwrite winxp
[09:13] <raptoid> Seveas,  ?
[09:13] <raptoid> help me
[09:13] <JohnMurdoch> _Magog_, wow, I didn't know it would be that simple, thank you! =)
[09:13] <raptoid> help help
[09:13] <PhantomFreak> /dev/ttyLT0 - My dial-up modem! Otherwise it works!
[09:13] <_Magog_> np
[09:13] <peter2> gparted options to resize a drive cannot be selected, anyone an idea as why ?
[09:13] <HappyFool> PhantomFreak: one way would be to add the mknod command to /etc/init.d/boostmisc.sh
[09:13] <JohnMurdoch> Matthew_W, thank you too =)
[09:13] <Matthew_W> hehe No problem.
[09:13] <_Magog_> chrissturm, no results
[09:13] <Seveas> raptoid, use the sources at paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[09:14] <slept> Matthew_W, not really I never used usb serial port, you can go to the commandline unplug it and plug it  - then you'll get more information
[09:14] <raptoid> ok
[09:14] <chrissturm> magog: the e17 in these debs is 4 months old anyway :)
[09:14] <Matthew_W> slept: explain that a little further?
[09:14] <HappyFool> PhantomFreak: hrm. weird. It might be better to hack /etc/udev/ config files, but i could never get that right
[09:15] <Matthew_W> slept:  There is no change in lsusb when I plug/unplug, however, the phone (lg vx3200) realizes that it's been plugged in.
[09:15] <salem> When i play AVI files i can hear the sounds from the movie but cant see anything. Does anyone know why?
[09:15] <Matthew_W> salem:  What movie player/
[09:15] <salem> Totem
[09:15] <_Magog_> chrissturm, :( i really wanna get DR17 its pretty...:P
[09:16] <slept> Matthew_W, <ctrl> + <alt> + <F1>, log in , unplug,plug then ther should be some information
[09:16] <salem> Matthew_W: totem
[09:16] <Matthew_W> salem:  Try using mplayer, it's more supported etc.  Other than that, check your video codec or video output drivers.  Fiddle with them until you get one that works
[09:18] <uc50ic4more> Folks, I have a quick question - I have installed Ubuntu for several people thus far, and in each case I have *no* wallpaper on their desktop. My reasoning, from putting together audio/ video production machines running Windows for several years, was that I'd rather NOT use a few MB of RAM displaying a useless bitmap... On a desktop machine, with RAM plentiful and cheap these days, is this a bit too anal of me? A 1280 x 1024 24bpp image ju
[09:18] <_Magog_> grrr guess no DR17 for  me
[09:19] <chombee> Anyone know about this Hoary Extras repos that seems to have popped up? What's on it?
[09:19] <a-l-le> hello, has anybody tried to install ubuntu on a fire wire external drive?
[09:20] <Pop_pa_FreaK> can someone dcc me a txt of their sources.list as for some reason mine is bogged up
[09:20] <twodeko> Seveas, not so sure how much i like this :/
[09:20] <Matthew_W> slept:  No messages, and didn't know how to get back into x.
[09:20] <Matthew_W> slept: lol
[09:21] <slept> Matthew_W, <alt> +<F7>
[09:21] <salem> Mattew_W: i also have VLC but in it i can see but not hear??
[09:22] <pepsi> what does 'rather' mean?
[09:22] <slept> Matthew_W, did you just plugin a cable one side usb the other side serialport , or is there a device on it ?
[09:22] <raptoid> Seveas
[09:22] <raptoid> Seveas
[09:22] <raptoid> Seveas
[09:22] <raptoid> may i add sadece paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 this to http://pastebin.ca/14344 there?
[09:22] <a-l-le> ah, yes, on a powerbook.
[09:23] <Matthew_W> slept:  Not entirely sure, one side is a USB, the other side attaches to my cell phone.
[09:23] <slept> pepsi:dict rather
[09:23] <Seveas> raptoid, no just replace :)
[09:23] <Matthew_W> slept:  I had a similar cable for a motorola phone with no big lump device jigger in the middle that worked fine.
[09:23] <Seveas> twodeko, like what?
[09:23] <Matthew_W> slept: (for the motorola phone, which is now severely dated)
[09:23] <twodeko> Seveas, im just used to gentoo id say
[09:23] <stjepan> hi
[09:23] <Seveas> twodeko, ah :)
[09:23] <pepsi> slept, command not found :P.. seriously though, is there a command line dictionary?
[09:23] <stjepan> do you know how can I get screenshot from xfce?
[09:23] <Seveas> well as said before, use what you are comfortable with
[09:24] <twodeko> i just like getting a computer started customized and i can build off it
[09:24] <raptoid> may i add this paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 this to http://pastebin.ca/14344 there?
[09:24] <raptoid> Seveas,
[09:24] <twodeko> stjepan, imagemagik
[09:24] <Seveas> raptoid, no just replace :)
[09:24] <slept> pepsi, dict is one
[09:24] <twodeko> capture iirc
[09:24] <salem> How can i toggle between an internal soundcard and a soundblaster?
[09:24] <Seveas> salem, you have /dev/dsp1 and /dev/dsp2
[09:25] <Seveas> just make sure you use the one you want
[09:25] <Zodiac> sup dawgs
[09:25] <stjepan> do you know any FAST, but REALLY FAST browser for Linux?
[09:25] <salem> Seveas: yes.
[09:25] <Juhaz> lynx.
[09:25] <uc50ic4more> stjepan - try dillo
[09:26] <Seveas> stjepan, links2
[09:26] <scott_> How can I make my resolution 1280x1024
[09:26] <Seveas> scott_: To find out ho you can change your dispplay's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:26] <Zodiac> Did anyone else get some kind of kernel update from Ubuntu manager?
[09:26] <Rockett17> q
[09:27] <raptoid> Seveas,
[09:27] <Seveas> Zodiac, yes, a few days ago
[09:27] <raptoid> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/pmuewo66.html
[09:27] <twodeko> Seveas, thanks for the help mate
[09:27] <Zodiac> What was it?
[09:27] <twodeko> ill drop by here some time
[09:27] <stjepan> oh
[09:27] <Seveas> raptoid, you're just making it worse :)
[09:27] <salem> seveas: yes i have dsp1 and dsp2
[09:27] <Matthew_W> slept: It won't even autodetect on windoze xp though, which is bothersome.
[09:27] <Seveas> raptoid, the lines in paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 are all you need
[09:28] <stjepan> I want a browser like FF
[09:28] <Seveas> salem, i know. It was not a question
[09:28] <Seveas> salem, i said: make sure you use the right one
[09:28] <salem> thanks
[09:28] <Zodiac> Is there a link I get some info about it?
[09:28] <Seveas> symlinking /dev/dsp to /dev/dsp1 will let you use 1, same for dsp2
[09:28] <slept> Matthew_W, what kind of cell phone is it
[09:28] <djm62> stjepan: but not FF...how do you want it to be unlike FF?
[09:29] <Seveas> Zodiac, you can look at the changes in synaptic
[09:29] <Zodiac> I can?
[09:29] <Seveas> Zodiac, and also: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/usn/usn-137-1
[09:30] <flummox> hey, how do i get the actual speed of my internet-connection using pppconfig/pppd ?
[09:30] <Matthew_W> slept:  LG vx3200 or LG 3200
[09:30] <Matthew_W> slept: hehe, I work for Telus... I should probably know this stuff lol
[09:30] <stjepan> djm62, FF is so slow...
[09:30] <stjepan> :(
[09:31] <Zodiac> ahhh
[09:31] <Zodiac> I see
[09:31] <Zodiac> Okay, thank you
[09:31] <stjepan> oh
[09:31] <stjepan> dillo is fast
[09:31] <HappyFool> flummox: i'm not sure you can easily. one way is to download a biggish (compressed) file and see how long it takes ;)
[09:31] <Brips> je vais voir dans mes paquets synaptic
[09:31] <djm62> stjepan: epiphany is a gtk browser which uses the same rendering engine as FF, but a bit lighter, I find konqueror a bit quicker in practice (although I don't like the rendering), and dillo is fast
[09:32] <slept> Matthew_W, never heard of these , did you google for modelnumber and linux ?
[09:32] <Seveas> Brips, on parle anglais ici, pour aide en franais, va a #ubuntu-fr
[09:32] <Brips> oups sry ;)
[09:32] <raz> Who here uses an antivirus under linux?
[09:32] <HappyFool> me, at work
[09:32] <we2bby> I have it installed
[09:32] <djm62> Seveas: is there a wiki page with that phrase in several languages or something?
[09:33] <Matthew_W> slept:  Yes, and followed the directions... so, I think I'll look for another cable *strangles www.wirelessaxis.com*
[09:33] <we2bby> but never ran it
[09:33] <HappyFool> i use linuxshield at the insistence of our it department
[09:33] <Seveas> djm, no non nein njet nee
[09:33] <Matthew_W> djm62: I'll just go out on a limb and say he speaks a couple of langs.
[09:33] <slept> Matthew_W, good luck
[09:33] <Matthew_W> lol
[09:33] <Matthew_W> slept: thanks.
[09:33] <infralite> how can i have synaptic check another cd drive if i have more than one?
[09:33] <infralite> it's driving me crazy
[09:33] <Seveas> infralite, yes
[09:33] <raz> HappyFool, you recommand it?.'.
[09:34] <pedropinto> i want to install Ubuntu on some machines with local Portuguese language support but it isn't included on the install cd. is it on the dvd ?
[09:34] <infralite> Seveas: yes?
[09:34] <HappyFool> raz: well, it works. it definitely slows my linux box down just like it does my xp box
[09:34] <Seveas> oh cd-drive... dunno about that. i thought it should....
[09:34] <Seveas> use apt-cd add
[09:34] <infralite> hmm ok
[09:34] <HappyFool> raz: problem is it only works with kernel 2.4 -- i believe a 2.6 version is due out this month
[09:34] <infralite> lemme give it a sht
[09:34] <infralite> *shot
[09:35] <infralite> err, seems apt-cd doesn't exist? that can't be true.
[09:35] <Seveas> apt-cdrom
[09:35] <infralite> ah, thanks
[09:35] <Seveas> (as you see, i don't use it too often :))
[09:36] <Seveas> infralite, apt-cdrom -d can do good things too
[09:36] <Seveas> infralite, just type apt-cdrom for a summafy of the options
[09:36] <infralite> Seveas: that was what i was checking over right now :)
[09:36] <infralite> thanks for the help
[09:39] <infralite> Seveas: says it cant open and "Permission denied" to my cd, should be because it's corrupt, right? cd's should have read access
[09:40] <Seveas> infralite, apt-cdrom should be run as root iirc
[09:40] <infralite> ah
[09:40] <infralite> sudo!
[09:41] <Seveas> yes :)
[09:42] <Xosgyz> Where should one start looking to try to fix a DNS problem?  I can ping my router but can't resolve a dns query
[09:42] <kaz> I get debootstrap errors @ coreutils
[09:43] <kaz> when installing.
[09:43] <Seveas> Xosgyz, /etc/resolv.conf
[09:43] <Seveas> Xosgyz, look at the host/dig commands too for testing
[09:43] <Seveas> kaz, set your location to something other than us/ca in the install
[09:43] <Xosgyz> Seveas: If my router IP is in resolv.conf then I am somehow hosed right?:)
[09:44] <Seveas> or disable downloading from the network during install
[09:44] <Seveas> Xosgyz, if your router doesn't do dns: yes
[09:44] <kaz> looking at the topic.....  I downloaded this install disc a couple days from the us archive... I guess I need to redownload.
[09:45] <Seveas> kaz, hmm, yeah could be :)
[09:45] <kaz> there was an exploit or hack or something?
[09:45] <Seveas> kaz, no idea, it just gives errors....
[09:46] <HappyFool> never blame on malice what can be explained by incompetence or biscuits crumbs on the mainboard
[09:46] <kaz> breezy > hoary? (next release?)
[09:46] <kaz> I grabbed hoary 5.0.4
[09:46] <Seveas> kaz, breezy is indeed the next release
[09:46] <HappyFool> breezy is currently for the foolhardy only
[09:47] <kaz> so the hoary that I got should be ok? The debootstrap error is just some bug with networking or something?
[09:47] <Seveas> kaz, yes, probably
[09:48] <nalioth> HappyFool: but not HappyFools?
[09:48] <HappyFool> nalioth: happyfools are known to be unstable-allergic
[09:49] <nalioth> HappyFool: :P
[09:50] <jmain_> I have a quick question.  Does ubuntu have the mppe patch in the kernel used for PPTP VPN client?
[09:50] <Muiske> Can anyone help me with this error?
[09:50] <Muiske> Muiske X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[09:50] <Muiske> Muiske   Major opcode of failed request:  135 (XFree86-VidModeExtension)
[09:50] <Muiske> Muiske   Minor opcode of failed request:  10 (XF86VidModeSwitchToMode)
[09:50] <Muiske> Muiske   Value in failed request:  0x2c00002
[09:50] <Muiske> Muiske   Serial number of failed request:  70
[09:50] <Muiske> Muiske   Current serial number in output stream:  72
[09:50] <Seveas> muiske, do not paste in here
[09:50] <Seveas> you will be un-muted soon
[09:51] <liz4rd> lol!!!
[09:51] <liz4rd> MUTED!!!
[09:51] <liz4rd> thats like...CUT
[09:51] <liz4rd> :P
[09:51] <liz4rd> ok i'm done
[09:52] <Fabian> how can I update clamav???
[09:52] <Seveas> Fabian, with apt-get update :)
[09:52] <nalioth> Fabian: "sudo apt-get update"
[09:52] <Seveas> or otherwise: look at /usr/share/doc/
[09:52] <nalioth> Fabian: or try 'sudo freshclam" for updated virus defs
[09:52] <HappyFool> Fabian: a glance at clamav's description points to clamav-freshclam
[09:52] <kaz> unplugged net, restarted comptuer.... same problem.
[09:53] <kaz> debootstrap error @ coreutils.
[09:53] <mrbuckets> Anyone have any success managing Linux clients from a Windows 2003 AD environment?
[09:53] <kaz> I get the same error with kubuntu as well.  I have tried a different CD-Rom drive.
[09:53] <Fabian> HappyFool, nalioth, Seveas I tried sudo freshclam, and it downloaded a file, but it's somehow not up to date
[09:53] <Seveas> kaz, then your iso is bad
[09:53] <kaz> BOTH isos?
[09:54] <kaz> kubuntu does the same, at the exact same spot. What are the odds of that?
[09:54] <HappyFool> Fabian: sorry dude. you'll need to read the docs to find out more
[09:54] <HappyFool> mrbuckets: i have joined a CentOS 3.4 system to a Win 2003 AD domain
[09:54] <HappyFool> mrbuckets: i had to upgrade to latest samba/krb5 though
[09:54] <infralite> Seveas: hmm, it adds the cd in synaptic now but i see no new packages
[09:54] <mrbuckets> HappyFool: really?
[09:55] <scott_> How Do I change my resolution to 1280x1024? I tried editing xorg.conf but it is read only and it won't let me change it
[09:55] <HappyFool> mrbuckets: indeed really ;)
[09:55] <viork> http://viork2.blogspot.com/
[09:55] <viork> http://viork2.blogspot.com/
[09:55] <mrbuckets> HappyFool: so was that computer visible via AD?
[09:55] <infralite> Seveas: sudo apt-cdrom -ad /media/cdrom1 add was what i did
[09:55] <liz4rd> SPAM!!!
[09:55] <liz4rd> :P
[09:55] <mrbuckets> HappyFool: or just the user?
[09:55] <liz4rd> http://datapirate.ath.cx <-- hep get it started :D
[09:55] <liz4rd> hrlp*
[09:55] <HappyFool> mrbuckets: um. it's part of the domain -- not sure what you mean by visible via AD
[09:55] <liz4rd> help*
[09:55] <liz4rd> :P
[09:56] <HappyFool> mrbuckets: i could type '\\machinename' to view it at a windows box
[09:56] <kaz> Where could I get better support on this debootstrap issue? I don't believe my iso is bad.
[09:56] <scott_> all: How Do I change my resolution to 1280x1024? I tried editing xorg.conf but it is read only and it won't let me change it
[09:56] <mrbuckets> HappyFool: As in, if you were going to Manage Users and Computers (a windows management snap-in), would you see that computer in the console?
[09:56] <kaz> I don't believe that both distros would fail at the exact same spot during the install.
[09:56] <infralite> kaz: why not do a md5 sum check?
[09:56] <HappyFool> mrbuckets: i don't know. i don't have admin rights on the domain
[09:56] <kaz> I don't have the .iso files here.
[09:56] <infralite> ah
[09:56] <mrbuckets> HappyFool: gotcha
[09:57] <kaz> I am redownloading from a non-us site right now though.
[09:57] <Seveas> kaz, use cdimage.ubuntu.com
[09:57] <Fabian> Seveas, removed freshclam and downloaded the datafiles instead, (both with synaptics) and when I restart the deamon now, it doesnt say anymore, it's outdated
[09:57] <slept> scott_, you need sudo , use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if you are not sure what you are doing
[09:57] <HappyFool> kaz: you can test the CD if you can mount it
[09:58] <nalioth> Fabian: so thats sorted, then
[09:58] <HappyFool> kaz: in the root of the CD, 'md5sum -c md5sum.txt'
[09:58] <kaz> what is 5.10? breezy?
[09:58] <HappyFool> indeed. year.month
[09:58] <Fabian> nalioth, seams so
[09:59] <chombee> Can anyone here give me an idea of the state of support for USB HD enclosures on Ubuntu? I'm looking at a VanTec NexStar3
[10:00] <infralite> Seveas: it complains that no valid records were found
[10:00] <killerbunny> How can i make the wheel on my intellimouse work ?
[10:00] <killerbunny> I look up the guide, but i cant find imwheel.
[10:00] <scott_> slept: I did reconfigure and It does absolutely nothing
[10:00] <Efwis> how do I pull a trace file up from a debugger?
[10:00] <slept> scott_, did you restart the x server
[10:01] <HappyFool> hmm, clamav looks interesting. i wonder if our it deparment would accept it as a linuxshield replacement
[10:01] <yahalom> i had sound yesterday now i dont. when i play xmms its playing. just no sound. i tried kill esd. still no sound. can someone help plz
[10:01] <yahalom> even when i log out there is no ubuntu drum on the gdm login screen
[10:01] <despeeh> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" in XF86Config-4 for mouse InputDevice
[10:02] <xnoff> anyone have experience with kismet?
[10:02] <nalioth> HappyFool: read an article on newsforge the other week (or was it /.) about a guy runnin his email server with multiple filters (one of which was clamav)
[10:03] <infralite> HappyFool: clamav works pretty well. I saw it catch the jpeg exploit the day it was submitted to securityfocus
[10:03] <HappyFool> nalioth, infralite: cool, thanks. will do some more research
[10:03] <yahalom> anybody?
[10:04] <scott_> How do I make it so I don't get all these permission errors?
[10:04] <slept> yahalom, volume level  down ?
[10:04] <infralite> sudo?
[10:04] <scott_> like when i extract stuff
[10:04] <yahalom> slept, nope
[10:04] <infralite> scott_: use sudo before the command
[10:04] <scott_> i mean to extract things
[10:05] <yahalom> slept, lol
[10:05] <yahalom> slept, yes
[10:05] <scott_> I don't want to go to terminal for everything
[10:05] <yahalom> slept, but why wouldnt i get the drum on gdm, my xmms volume was down
[10:05] <chombee> HappyFool - do you think my USB problem could be because I didn't insert the HD properly?
[10:05] <infralite> scott_: then you have to set permissions with chmod
[10:05] <jmain_> yahalom: I just tried the Live CD and the system had 2 options for Sound in the Volume app.  I had no sound until I changed to to the correct sound card.
[10:05] <infralite> to wherever you are extracting
[10:06] <slept> yahalom, thats pcm it's systemwide look at a mixer whwn you turn it down
[10:06] <infralite> it can be done with gnome's nautilus
[10:06] <concept10> Anyone use GnomeBaker or are you guys using K3B
[10:06] <yahalom> jmain_, thanx
[10:06] <yahalom> slept, thanx
[10:06] <scott_> infralite: how do I do that exactly
[10:06] <nalioth> concept10: i use k3b
[10:06] <infralite> scott_: right click, properties => perms
[10:07] <despeeh> scott : chmod u+rwx   :)
[10:07] <concept10> nalioth, I thought gnome baker was a great idea but its not stable
[10:07] <infralite> despeeh: lol
[10:07] <HappyFool> chombee: hrm, i dunno
[10:07] <raz> nalioth, any way in k3b to open a disc and continue a previous session?
[10:07] <concept10> oh well back to k3b
[10:07] <iggy_> need some help whith installing mysql
[10:07] <HappyFool> chombee: try unplugging the HD, and plugging in the cage (err, or whatever you call it)
[10:07] <HappyFool> chombee: see if dmesg registers anything
[10:07] <Fabian> why does it take so long to set up the network interfaces on startup? could it be, because it searches vor wlan and cant find or similar?
[10:07] <despeeh> iggy what a kind of help do u need
[10:07] <nalioth> concept10: not quite yet, anyway
[10:07] <scott_> despeeh: it says too few arguments
[10:07] <iggy_> have installed it whith syntaptic
[10:07] <jmain_> Does installing k3b install all the KDE libraries? or are they already installed on a fresh install?
[10:08] <nalioth> raz i'm not sure, i only burn single-sessions
[10:08] <despeeh> chmod u+rwx (file)
[10:08] <infralite> scott_: you have to tell it a file at the end
[10:08] <nalioth> jmain_: it only installs the required libraries
[10:08] <infralite> scott: or a directory
[10:08] <concept10> jmain_, yes, it install alot of libraries.  I just installed. 111mb
[10:08] <scott_> Can't you just make it so that I have permision to edit everything?
[10:08] <iggy_> i can do mysql but there are only empty tables
[10:08] <nalioth> Fabian: there is an article on the wiki to address the network startup delay
[10:08] <scott_> can I just do chmod u+rwx /
[10:09] <concept10> jmain_, ed to get 39.7MB/39.8MB of archives.
[10:09] <concept10> After unpacking 111MB of additional disk space will be used.
[10:09] <jmain_> I use k3b currently in my super hacked up mepis install.  I plan on moving to ubuntu but was wondering about cd burning.
[10:09] <nalioth> james__: k3b is k3b
[10:10] <slept> scott_, you don't want  to mess up your hole system don't chmod /
[10:10] <concept10> just installed k3b, no menu item for it :(
[10:10] <iggy_> but how do i configure mysql after install?
[10:10] <scott_> slept: how do you undo that?
[10:10] <Seveas> iggy_, use phpmyadmin if you want a simple interface
[10:10] <slept> scott_, reinstall
[10:11] <bronson_> Anyone know why ddd complains about a missing elf/start.S?
[10:11] <scott_> slept: thanks....
[10:11] <jmain_> I rarely use the menu in gnome.  I just use the run command for everything.
[10:11] <bronson_> I've got libc6-dbg installed.
[10:11] <despeeh> iggy do u use phpmysql?
[10:11] <scott_> infralite: it says operation not permitted
[10:12] <Fabian> nalioth, have you got a link?
[10:12] <iggy_> i have installed php
[10:12] <scott_> How do you make something not read-only
[10:12] <despeeh> i suppose there is webmin mysql exist too
[10:12] <Seveas> scott_, with chmod
[10:13] <jmain_> scott_: chmod +rw
[10:13] <chrissturm> phpmyadmin is also very nice
[10:13] <scott_> would it be -rw?
[10:13] <HappyFool> scott_: what do you want to change to be not read-only ?
[10:13] <scott_> xorg.conf
[10:13] <nalioth> Fabian: not atm, use the seach
[10:13] <HappyFool> scott_: and how are you trying to edit it ?
[10:13] <iggy_> okay got phpmyadmin but now i need first configure account for mysql
[10:13] <scott_> happyfool: gedit
[10:13] <HappyFool> scott_: you need to have 'root' (adminstrative) users to edit that file
[10:14] <Seveas> iggy_, use root with no password for the first login
[10:14] <HappyFool> scott_: try 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[10:14] <Seveas> iggy_, and please change that login asap :)
[10:14] <scott_> woah
[10:14] <scott_> happyfool:thanks
[10:14] <HappyFool> scott_: you need to have 'root' (administrative) *rights* to edit that file (correction, my apologies)
[10:14] <iggy_> he already says acces denied
[10:15] <scott_> happyfool: how do you make it so I don't need sudo all the time?
[10:15] <concept10> anyone know how to change that ugly font in k3b?
[10:15] <HappyFool> scott_: preferably, you don't ;)
[10:15] <jmain_> Scott_:You do not want to do that.
[10:15] <nalioth> concept10: if nobody answers you here, try #kubuntu or #kde
[10:15] <scott_> happyfool: why is that
[10:15] <HappyFool> scott_: mostly protecting yourself from yourself
[10:15] <concept10> I need to change my whole system font Ubuntu comes with a horrible default font
[10:16] <HappyFool> scott_: as an ordinary user you can't easily break your machine
[10:16] <Fabian> nalioth, can't find..... :(
[10:16] <iggy_> seveas help? :D
[10:16] <HappyFool> scott_: but as root... well. it's very easy
[10:16] <scott_> happyfool:  you can just call me a noob ;-)
[10:17] <scott_> happyfool:  so basically If you aren't smart enough to give yourself root access you aren't worth of being root?
[10:17] <nalioth> scott_: one keystroke as root can hose your whole system beyond recovery
[10:17] <TMM> hey all!
[10:17] <jmain_> scott_: Running as a restricted user is a good thing.  This is what makes Linux, BSD, OS X much more secure then Windows.
[10:17] <HappyFool> scott_: bear in mind that once you've entered a password for 'sudo', you shouldn't need to do so again if you use sudo within a few minutes again
[10:18] <scott_> happyfool:  okay, I'm gonna see if this worked
[10:18] <TMM> I'm having a little problem, I build my own kernel with kernel-package from the sources apt-getted (which claim to have ubuntu patches) I copy the config from /boot, build the kernel with make-kpkg --initrd buildpackage (no changes) and my vesafb won't work with that kernel... shouldn't it be identical to the ones provided with ubuntu?
[10:18] <scott_> happyfool:  brb
[10:18] <HappyFool> good luck
[10:19] <TMM> can someone tell he what (if anything) I'm doing wrong?
[10:19] <nalioth> HappyFool: sudo is the steel-bottomed sixgun holster of linux
[10:19] <HappyFool> nalioth: heh
[10:20] <Seveas> TMM, there are not much kernel experts here, maybe you should try #ubuntu-kernel
[10:20] <HappyFool> nalioth: some people *like* sore feet
[10:20] <TMM> weird part is, according to dmesg it doesn't even TRY to load vesafb
[10:20] <TMM> Seveas, ah, thanks
[10:20] <scott_> okay I still can't change my resolution to 1280x1024
[10:20] <nalioth> HappyFool: keeps ya from shootin yerself in the foot (or a much more tender spot)
[10:20] <Seveas> scott_, restart the X server after editing xorg.conf
[10:20] <nalioth> scott what driver are you using?
[10:20] <scott_> for what
[10:21] <iggy_> how can i log in
[10:21] <jpatota> im having this problem with apt-get on on http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:21] <nalioth> jpatota: read the /topic
[10:21] <Seveas> jpatota: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[10:21] <scott_> nalioth: what driver am I using for what?
[10:21] <nalioth> scott_: please address us by name (whomever you are talking to)
[10:21] <jpatota> thanks
[10:22] <nalioth> scott_: your 1280x1024 driver
[10:22] <Seveas> iggy_, on a freshly installed mysql server you can login with user root without password. Only from localhost
[10:22] <scott_> nalioth: I am using default drivers for everything
[10:23] <Fabian> nalioth, at this inofficial page it says to press Ctrl+C, but I want to start the network.... can't be the solution, can it?
[10:23] <nalioth> Seveas: VESA should enable scott_'s system to display 1280x1024, correct?
[10:23] <Seveas> nalioth, ENOCLUE
[10:23] <nalioth> Fabian: its either one way or the other. you decide which you'd rather have
[10:23] <Seveas> i'm no X expert
[10:23] <savetheclocktowr> quick question: if i've got a hard drive with ubuntu already installed, and i want to set it up on a windows machine to dual-boot, then all i have to do is put the drive in and install a bootloader, right?  how would i go about that?
[10:23] <nalioth> scott_: you have run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, right?
[10:24] <scott_> nalioth: yes
[10:24] <scott_> nalioth: I must warn you I am a complete linux noob
[10:24] <nalioth> scott_: what driver did you choose during that process?
[10:24] <Fabian> nalioth, too bad... :( why does linux take so long to start!?
[10:24] <scott_> nalioth: I think Vesa
[10:24] <Seveas> savetheclocktowr, on the machine you boot from a livecd, mount your ubuntu install, chroot into it and run grub-install
[10:25] <nalioth> scott_: are you running a tube monitor or lcd?
[10:25] <glDaher> am not happy with something... when getting applications. most of the time you don't know what it is, and it has dependencies... now I wanna remove it, and I don't remember those depends. =/ is there a way to remove all dependencies if only this app depends on them?
[10:25] <savetheclocktowr> Seveas: sounds good, thanks
[10:25] <Seveas> glDaher, look at debfoster
[10:25] <jmain_> scott_: what video card do you have in your system.  I think Vesa is lowest common denominator.
[10:25] <scott_> nalioth: I was wrong, I used ATI
[10:25] <nalioth> Fabian: its "why does Ubuntu take so long to start" and the answer is "cuz the devs made it so"
[10:25] <slept> scott_, did you restart the xserver - do you know how to do that  (<ctrl>+ <alt>+<backspace>). If you don't restart nothing will change
[10:25] <SnowWrite> hi I'm having issues with webmin on ubuntu.. the network configuration module won't show in the interface..
[10:25] <nalioth> scott_: try VESA
[10:25] <Seveas> glDaher, if you install things using aptitude, all dependencies will be removed when uninstalling
[10:26] <scott_> nalioth: ok
[10:26] <nalioth> slept: he rebooted or logged out
[10:26] <slept> oh I see
[10:26] <miberto> Hi ubuntues, I have a problem with hoary. When I start with the AC plug the screen light i high, but if I start without AC it is low and it's not possible to swich between like I used with the previous release. Any idea?
[10:26] <scott_> nalioth: brb
[10:26] <Fabian> nalioth, but every linux takes longer than for example windows! and why did the devs make ubuntu take long to start?
[10:26] <glDaher> Seveas: I use the synaptic manager
[10:26] <nalioth> Fabian: a lot of that is that linux is not designed to be a desktop OS
[10:27] <Seveas> glDaher, maybe synaptic does it too, i don't know it :)
[10:27] <nalioth> Fabian: linux is a "Server" OS first
[10:27] <nalioth> Fabian: and is designed to virtually NEVER have to be turned off
[10:27] <Seveas> but debfoster is very good at cleaning up unneeded dependencies
[10:27] <slept>  scott_ , maybe you have to change the sync ranges for your monitor
[10:27] <nalioth> Fabian: so when you only restart your machine once every 2 or 3 months (or way way longer), restart time isnt an issue
[10:28] <zapada> hey, when are the new ubuntu cds going to ship?
[10:28] <Fabian> nalioth, that's true.... but as linux becomes so popular as a desktop OS, why don't they work to make it faster?
[10:28] <glDaher> Seveas: synaptic has two remove options, mark for removal, and mark for complete removal... could it be the later?
[10:28] <raz> Any way in k3b to open previous session on a disk and write??
[10:28] <mfabbri> hi
[10:29] <nalioth> Fabian: some linux' are faster, its all how its coded and arranged to work together
[10:29] <HappyFool> Fabian: it is being worked on ;)
[10:29] <HappyFool> Fabian: patience
[10:29] <nalioth> Fabian: check this out: www.linuxfromscratch.org
[10:29] <jmain_> My G4 Mac boots to desktop in 20 Secs :)
[10:29] <slept> SnowWrite, try /etc/init.d/webmin restart
[10:29] <nalioth> jmain_: you mean your OSX on your G4, right?
[10:29] <jmain_> yeah
[10:29] <mfabbri> is there any way to limit resources allocated by bash processes for all the user
[10:29] <SnowWrite> did that..:-(
[10:30] <nalioth> jmain_: i run ubuntu on a G3 and G4 iBook, and it takes a couple minutes
[10:30] <jmain_> Nalioth: I only use Linux on my work Laptop.
[10:30] <mfabbri> i.e. avoiding shell fork bombs?
[10:30] <slept> raz, works fine
[10:30] <nalioth> jmain_: i run ubuntu on my macs cuz i can
[10:30] <raz> slept, how? what button/option? don't see it.
[10:31] <nalioth> jmain_: OSX is deeply tied to the hardware, and backgrounds the S**t out of a lot of startup processes
[10:31] <Seveas> glDaher, no
[10:31] <jmain_> Nalioth: I really like OS X.   But's nothing for me, I think! ;) too new to linux
[10:31] <Seveas> complete removal is apt-get remove --purge
[10:31] <nalioth> jmain_: i wouldnt wish winduhs on anyone
[10:32] <nalioth> Fabian: you could do it. its very informative and step-by-step
[10:32] <_linuxAS_> hi
[10:32] <nalioth> Fabian: it would teach you SO much about linux and unix
[10:32] <slept> raz, select burn, settings,  multisession,  continue..
[10:32] <raz> slept, thanky
[10:32] <Fabian> nalioth, I'll have a look at it....
[10:32] <Fabian> nalioth, who knows? :D
[10:32] <nalioth> Fabian: you can d/l the book and read at your pleasure
[10:33] <hodgman> hello, I'm trying to apt-get iptraf program and I'm getting a MD5Sum mismatch
[10:33] <Seveas> hodgman, look at the topic
[10:33] <jmain_> I have a question.  Does x.org gnome 2.10 have a better copy/paste support?
[10:33] <nalioth> Fabian: do you see Fabian-linux in the future?
[10:33] <philuk86> does anyone know if mono will be included in the next release of ubuntu in the main repository?
[10:33] <Seveas> philuk86, it will
[10:33] <Seveas> philuk86, including beagle & tomboy
[10:33] <jmain_> It is the one thing that drives me crazy on my laptop.
[10:33] <hodgman> Seveas: thanks!
[10:33] <LinuxJones> hodgman, your using the us.archive.ubuntu linux repositories ?
[10:34] <kaz> how do I burn an iso in ubuntu?
[10:34] <macarthy> Hi, I'm have problems connecting to the remote desktop manager in ubuntu from a VNC viewer on a mac
[10:34] <kaz> nm
[10:34] <Seveas> kaz, gnomebaker/graveman/k3b
[10:34] <nalioth> kaz: gnomebaker, graveman k3b, cdrecord, blah blah
[10:34] <hodgman> LinuxJones: most likely I'll go check in a sec
[10:34] <Seveas> but you can just mount it
[10:34] <nalioth> macarthy: what exactly is the prob?
[10:34] <LinuxJones> hodgman, remove the us. portion as they are borked atm. then apt-get update and try isntalling again
[10:34] <Fabian> nalioth, do I see Fabian-linux? Yes, I suppose so! I like building up the stuff as I like it! :D Implemented X to work with borland compiler on windows, cause I didnt want to use cygwin f.e. :D
[10:35] <kaz> looks like I can just right click & "Write to disc"  no?  or would just just put iso file on the disk?
[10:35] <scott_> all: it didn't work
[10:35] <nalioth> kaz: i use a program (not nautilus)
[10:35] <macarthy> nalioth: getting a connection refused. on the pref. panel it refers to the local machine as localhost.localdomain:0
[10:35] <scott_> nalioth: it didn't work
[10:36] <kaz> does nautilus do it though?
[10:36] <jmain_> scott_: what happens when you restart X?
[10:36] <nalioth> kaz nautilus has built-in burning capability (similar to XP)
[10:36] <scott_> nalioth: I still don't have the option to change to 1280:1024
[10:37] <Fabian> nalioth, where can I download that book? Im blind or something.... :/
[10:37] <nalioth> scott_: did you "choose" that res when you went thru the dpkg-reconfigure thang?
[10:37] <kaz> but does it burn an .iso file to disc and expand it? or would it just burn the actual iso file to disc?
[10:37] <nalioth> Fabian: there is a 'download' link somewehre there
[10:37] <kaz> I only have 1 CD here... I can't mess up :(
[10:37] <nalioth> kaz i dont use nautilus, i use k3b
[10:37] <scott_> nalioth: there was no option
[10:37] <jmain_> Scott_:What did you choose for your Monitor?
[10:38] <Fabian> nalioth, can't find it... *searchesveryhard"
[10:38] <scott_> nalioth: vesa
[10:38] <nalioth> scott_: theres a section during the process that asks what rez' you want to be able to use
[10:38] <scott_> nalioth: is it possible for you to like vnc me or something
[10:38] <despeeh> scott not easy :)
[10:39] <scott_> :-(
[10:39] <scott_> nalioth: there is no option unless I skipped over it
[10:39] <jmain_> scott_: It sounds like perhaps you did not specify your correct monitor and the system is only showing reduced screen res.
[10:40] <nalioth> scott_: the option is there
[10:40] <despeeh> scott just use SSH connection with jmain or nalioth , they will fix your computer :)
[10:41] <mfabbri> scott_, what's the problem with vnc?
[10:41] <scott_> mfabbri: I have not problem with vnc
[10:41] <nalioth> Fabian: on the left: http://lfs.crash404.com/lfs/news.html
[10:41] <kaz> is there something that I can easily intall with apt-get to burn isos?
[10:42] <nalioth> despeeh: why not you?
[10:42] <nalioth> kaz graveman, gnomebaker, k3b
[10:42] <mfabbri> kaz, you can just use nautilus
[10:43] <slept> kaz, cdrecord
[10:43] <nalioth> scott_: i take no responsiblity if lightning strikes while i'm doing this
[10:43] <kaz> I couldn't find graveman or gnomebaker in apt-cache search
[10:43] <Seveas> kaz, enable universe
[10:43] <kaz> ah
[10:43] <Fabian> nalioth, Get printed?
[10:43] <Matthew_W> Do you guys know of a TCP/IP optimizer for linux that I could install from a deb or rpm
[10:43] <Matthew_W> ?
[10:44] <slept> kaz , cdrecord dev=ATAPI:/dev/hd.. image.iso replace ..  with c or d
[10:45] <Gandalfar> The question that I was asking myself a couple times already, is there ubuntu netinstall image for usb keys?
[10:45] <nalioth> g2g the phone never stops
[10:45] <Seveas> Gandalfar, there is a 50mb netinstall image
[10:45] <Gandalfar> Seveas: great! where? :)
[10:46] <chombee> Am I being a fool or are all 3.5" IDE drives the same, ie.: they're all the same size?
[10:46] <zapada> when are the new ubuntu cds going to ship?
[10:47] <jmain_> chombee: Some may be thicker.  The length and width should be the same.
[10:47] <^thehatsrule^> zapada: check a month or a bit after you sent a req i think
[10:47] <ghita> hello:Can someone help me to play a dvd with totem.I folowed ubuntu guide and totem is still not playing my dvd.I get 'could not open dvd://'
[10:47] <zapada> ^thehatsrule^: i sent request last october for version 4.0
[10:47] <zapada> and i got those
[10:47] <zapada> but i thought they send some every 6months
[10:48] <zapada> (version 5.0)
[10:48] <Gandalfar> zapada: you have to rerequest them :)
[10:48] <Fabian> nalioth_wrkn, found it!  I have most of functionality already implemented, I can try it
[10:52] <Fabian> buy Seveas, thanks for your help again. I'm gonna build my own distro now! :D
[10:52] <Gandalfar> Fabian: livecd? :)
[10:52] <Fabian> no, LFS
[10:52] <Razor-X> hmmm, can someone help me getting TeX working?
[10:52] <Fabian> Gandalfar, you want a livecd, or what?
[10:53] <Gandalfar> Fabian: just wondering .. :)
[10:53] <Seveas> Razor-X, install tetex-base tetex-extras
[10:53] <Razor-X> Fabian: why not remaster like Knoppix, or something?
[10:53] <tritium> Razor-X, what's the trouble?
[10:53] <Razor-X> Seveas: that's obvious
[10:53] <Gandalfar> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LocalNetInstall
[10:53] <Razor-X> dvipdf is crapping on my fonts
[10:53] <Fabian> Gandalfar, Razor-X, I'll inform you when my iso image is online
[10:53] <Seveas> Razor-X, use pdflatex
[10:53] <Razor-X> whereas, the dvi viewer is working fine
[10:53] <tritium> Razor-X, use dvipdfm
[10:53] <Razor-X> Seveas: ok
[10:53] <Razor-X> err, ok
[10:54] <Gandalfar> Fabian: great<EMAIL_ADDRESS>:)
[10:54] <tritium> As Seveas mentions, pdflatex is great too.  It depends on your needs.
[10:54] <Razor-X> tritium: thanks ;)
[10:54] <Razor-X> Fabian: what's the aim of the distro
[10:54] <Fabian> hang on... *notesdownemail*
[10:54] <Gandalfar> Fabian: I'm into livecd building myself so I might help you with a tip or two :)
[10:54] <Razor-X> tritium: what are the differences?
[10:54] <Seveas> pdflatex rules
[10:54] <tritium> Razor-X, do you have figures in .eps format?
[10:54] <Razor-X> tritium: nothing fancy yet, just learning for the moment
[10:54] <Fabian> Gandalfar, I'm coming back on you! :D
[10:54] <Razor-X> Seveas: that's what i'll start doing ;)
[10:55] <Razor-X> Fabian: what's the goal of the distro?
[10:55] <tritium> Razor-X, okay.  The main difference you'll notice at first is the differnence in which image formats you can use with each approach.
[10:55] <Razor-X> I still have to make my math Live CD, I've read the docs, and have a plan
[10:55] <Fabian> Razor-X, dunno!  CU
[10:56] <Razor-X> Fabian: good luck then
[10:56] <Fabian> thx
[10:57] <Razor-X> anyways, brb, time to try and make my damned school counselors give me the math course I deserve
[10:59] <glDaher> sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start    gives    sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd: command not found
[10:59] <Seveas> glDaher, install openssh-server
[10:59] <eruin> how is ati linux support these days?
[10:59] <eruin> up to par with nvidia?
[10:59] <biovore> nope
[10:59] <Seveas> eruin, no
[10:59] <eruin> still not? curses. they're cheaper ;)
[10:59] <Seveas> but that's ATI's fault
[11:00] <eruin> ofcourse it is. I just read somewhere that they were going to step up their linux support. and that document was written a LONG time ago