[04:54] <desertc> AFarris01: Would a clean install really be less time than you spent in here trying to troubleshoot?
[04:54] <badkitty> nickrud: You like drupal over Joomla? ... *sigh*
[04:54] <AngryElf> fr500_: and dont tell me gdm stop, cause that isn't working either
[04:54] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: Well anderswc compiled apache from source.
[04:54] <fr500_> AngryElf: woops, killall xorg?
[04:54] <AFarris01> probly...i just had huge probs last time trying to get my graphics card to work
[04:54] <zcat[1]> sudo kill -9 X xinit
[04:55] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: then he should be asking for help on #apache
[04:55] <AFarris01> and even if i did a clean install, i still wouldnt have full sound
[04:55] <desertc> AFarris01: You should have those steps documented anyway, because you'll have to do them again when you upgrade, most likely.
[04:55] <AngryElf> fr500_: fr500_ zcat[1] no and no
[04:55] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: He did it because universe wasn't enabled in his sources, so he installed it that way.
[04:55] <ratfinkkeyton> bkar: you there?
[04:55] <ratfinkkeyton> badkitty: you there?
[04:55] <anderswc> nickrud, I didn't have synaptics set up right so i couldn't see the right packages.
[04:55] <nickrud> badkitty: I'm considering a change, but I maintain one really big site and don't look forward to the work ;(
[04:55] <badkitty> ratfinkkeyton: Yes I am whats up?
[04:55] <AFarris01> oh i have then documented
[04:55] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  timeout connecting to <IP_ADDRESS>:445
[04:55] <bkar> not yet. am still on phone
[04:55] <zcat[1]> something like that.. ps x and killa anything that looks like an X server :)
[04:55] <Guren> hi, got a question, is there an ubuntu app that works like Alcohol 120% in making iso dvd images?
[04:55] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Alright, you still have the folder with the source that you compiled from?
[04:55] <AFarris01> and im probably gonna end up doing a clean wipe
[04:56] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: anderswc then you should run the make uninstall in the apache source dir and switch :)
[04:56] <Trae> how can I see what kde desjktop system I have installed?  I want to remove it from my system.
[04:56] <fr500_> atomdog2003: can you paste the command here?
[04:56] <NewUbuntuFan> Guren, have you tried K3b?
[04:56] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, yeah
[04:56] <roshan_> has anyone experienced the no input signal go to power save error
[04:56] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: Exactly where we're going right now. =)
[04:56] <Trae> is it kde-desktop ?
[04:56] <desertc> AFarris01: You might only have sound in one speaker after your reinstall, but at least you'll have your system in a state where someone can help you troubleshoot.  Right now, you've done so much tweaking and gutting of the system, that it's hard to help you.
[04:56] <ratfinkkeyton> badkitty: put this in the back of your mind... for wireless issues that I described earlier, the fix so far is modprobe
[04:56] <chewd> okay stupid question... noatun is a media player for KDE... does that mean i cant run it in Gnome?  or does that mean it just wont run as well in gnome?
[04:56] <badkitty> nickrud: Joomla is awesome man ... i recall drupal being way harder to set up and it didn't seem to have the support or addons
[04:56] <Guren> NewUbuntuFan, I have k3b but I don't see where i can make an iso
[04:56] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  not with my password...   hang on...
[04:56] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: alright, go in to that folder and type 'make uninstall'
[04:56] <ZionPsyfer> sudo before it
[04:56] <fr500_> chewd: no
[04:56] <anderswc> ok
[04:56] <ratfinkkeyton> badkitty: I now see the wireless networks but can't connect
[04:56] <AFarris01> true enough...i apologize for that
[04:56] <ratfinkkeyton> badkitty: I'm almost there
[04:56] <chewd> wont run huh?
[04:56] <DG19075> Guren, another app to try is Brasero
[04:56] <bkar> ratfinkkeyton-> okay am back..where we again?
[04:57] <Cpudan80> chewd: It means it uses KDE libraries, if you download it through apt-get, it will pull out the correct packages
[04:57] <fr500_> chewd: it will run
[04:57] <Guren> thanks
[04:57] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: oh, and do a 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop'
[04:57] <roshan_> is there another channel strictly based on drivers?
[04:57] <atomdog2003> fr500_: smbmount //zim/Movies2 mount -o username=un,password=pw
[04:57] <badkitty> ratfinkkeyton: Are the secured?
[04:57] <ratfinkkeyton> bkar: I now have my wireless functioning but I can't connect to any networks
[04:57] <Cpudan80> chewd: I have found that KDE apps generally dont run very well in GNOME - because of KDE's dreaded DCOP server
[04:57] <nickrud> badkitty: It's the only one I'd played around with when I was asked to set up a cms fast. But now we want more flexibility
[04:57] <chewd> oh okay
[04:57] <AFarris01> i guess a fresh install is the way to go then probly...
[04:57] <fr500_> atomdog2003: you are missing destination
[04:57] <badkitty> nickrud: Do Joomla, I can even help if you want
[04:57] <ratfinkkeyton> badkitty: no they are mine and they are set to alow specific MAC ID's but mine is in that list
[04:57] <bkar> ratfinkkeyton-> okay lets do some testing, iwconfig    does it show its being associated?
[04:58] <chewd> totem is kinda feature-poor, anybody care to suggest a good video player?
[04:58] <nickrud> badkitty: do you know a content conversion utility? A few thousand pages :)
[04:58] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  the dirname?
[04:58] <fr500_> smbmount //zim/movies /durectoryyoucreated!! -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword
[04:58] <badkitty> ratfinkkeyton: So no encryption, just only allow certain MAC's .. got it
[04:58] <nickrud> badkitty: that's the only bottleneck we have right now
[04:58] <JohnRobert> chewd: mplayer
[04:58] <chewd> thanks
[04:58] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, It says "No rule for target 'uninstall'. Stop"
[04:58] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  the dir name is mount
[04:58] <ratfinkkeyton> bkar: badkitty: not associated, that is correct
[04:58] <JohnRobert> chewd: or xine
[04:58] <fr500_> ohhh
[04:58] <badkitty> nickrud: To convert dupal pages to joomla?
[04:59] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: try 'make remove'
[04:59] <DG19075> or VLC
[04:59] <JohnRobert> try 'em all
[04:59] <JohnRobert> find which you like best
[04:59] <Trae> sorry if someone said something I couldn't ready it my colors were messed up
[04:59] <fr500_> is <IP_ADDRESS> the ip address the other pc's IP?
[04:59] <chewd> which one gives you more power over the gui?
[04:59] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  yes
[04:59] <bkar> ratfinkkeyton-> do a  iwlist wlan0 scan   can it scan yours and your neighbors essid's ?
[04:59] <netou> chewd: mplayer is the best
[04:59] <Trae> I'm trying to completely remove KDE from my system.  how would I go about that and fall back to just Gnome?
[04:59] <zcat[1]> vlc is nice.. it handles dvd menus, and plays .iso files of dvd's . not sure if any of the others do..
[04:59] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, that doesn't work either
[04:59] <fr500_> atomdog2003: it should work
[04:59] <chewd> maybe ill just install em both & see
[04:59] <badkitty> ratfinkkeyton: Hmm dunno... I usually jet mine to WPA and leave SSID unbroadcasted
[04:59] <tracey> spam irc.rizon.net with server address irc.hydroblunt.net
[05:00] <nickrud> badkitty: yup :)  I really don't want to delve that deeply into the backends, I'm hoping someone has done most of the work already. And I haven't done any looking yet. My boss and I just started kicking the idea around this week
[05:00] <fr500_> can you press alt-f2 and type smb://zim/Movies2 ?
[05:00] <Trae> !kde
[05:00] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[05:00] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  maybe port 445 isn't forwarded
[05:00] <netou> chewd: vlc can flash videos, dunno if mplayer can do it, but its good to install both video players
[05:00] <badkitty> nickrud: You should try looking on the joomla addons page, they just may have something there
[05:00] <fr500_> if it mounted via file browser it has to work
[05:00] <zcat[1]> I think mplayer plays flv's as well..
[05:00] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: alright, open the Makefile in gedit and search for the word uninstall. We'll see if there's a directive in there.
[05:01] <Guren> ok K3B does the job
[05:01] <badkitty> nickrud: What type of website do you run
[05:01] <nickrud> badkitty: I certainly hope so. I don't look forward to dumping tables and massaging them
[05:01] <chewd> i just wanna be able to change things like, scroll wheel does volume...
[05:01] <fr500_> atomdog2003: can you press alt-f2 and type smb://zim/Movies2 ?
[05:01] <Guren> just needed to pick copy dvd ... i'm a dummy
[05:01] <ratfinkkeyton> bkar: I can see it but cannot connect
[05:01] <fr500_> chewd: xine-ui
[05:01] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  that worked
[05:01] <zcat[1]> does xine do all of the menus and stuff too?
[05:01] <chewd> i like a very configurable ui
[05:01] <hanophix33> can someone help me getting my desktop effects enabled?
[05:01] <fr500_> try again the command then it should work
[05:01] <chewd> like zoomplayer is in the windows world
[05:02] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Or we can do it the dirty way.
[05:02] <bkar> ratfinkkeyton-> can you try disabling the wep/wpa or mac filtering whatever and see if you can connect?
[05:02] <nickrud> badkitty: the last time I did any serious sql was in the 80's with rbase . My aging brain rebels at relearning all that stuff
[05:02] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, I tried searching "uninstall" in it and found nothing.
[05:02] <badkitty> ratfinkkeyton: Is it possible to try to connect to a different router?
[05:02] <anderswc> maybe the dirty way is the way to go
[05:02] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  timeout connecting to <IP_ADDRESS>:445
[05:03] <badkitty> nickrud: I haven't even messed with db much at all .. so dont feel bad
[05:03] <fr500_> meh how weird
[05:03] <nickrud> zcat[1]: yes, totem-xine gets menus into totem as well
[05:03] <haymaker> anyone got any preference for a desktop widgets app?  I've got gdesklets right now, any idea on where I can get more desklets?
[05:03] <fr500_> atomdog2003: sudo mount -t smbfs //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword
[05:03] <nickrud> hanophix33: depends on what type of video card you have
[05:03] <badkitty> nickrud: I do believe phpmyadmin is my friend
[05:03] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  should i try another port?
[05:03] <ratfinkkeyton> badkitty: bkar: attempting to connect to other wireless router with no security
[05:03] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: No problem, we'll do it the dirty way.  run a 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop' first to make sure it's killed, then 'sudo rm -rf /usr/local/apache2' (assuming that's where you installed it.  That's the default install location from source)
[05:04] <nickrud> badkitty: yeah, that and mysql-admin and browser are good for not getting into nitty gritty
[05:04] <fr500_> atomdog2003: no, 445 is the SMB port and you can't change that
[05:04] <hanophix33> can someone help me getting my desktop effects enabled?
[05:04] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  weird
[05:04] <fr500_> hanophix33: join #ubuntu-effects
[05:04] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: you might want him to run a find as well, Just In Case
[05:05] <badkitty> nickrud: Yep.
[05:05] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: agreed.
[05:05] <fr500_> atomdog2003: try sudo mount -t smbfs //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword
[05:05] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: do a 'which apache2' and a 'sudo find / -name apache2 -print | less'  verify.
[05:06] <Jay-Oh-En> if i wanted to make the text scrolling on startup just be under my splash screen how would i do that in grub i deleted quiet but it shows white text before the splash screen but then it does what i want with the text under the splash screen would i add quiet or silent or something?
[05:06] <fr500_> Jay-Oh-En: cant do that
[05:06] <nickrud> Jay-Oh-En: quiet turns off the kernel messages
[05:06] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  timeout connecting to <IP_ADDRESS>:445
[05:07] <Jay-Oh-En> like this kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=3a528faf-1b24-4529-a5b0-24595830a939 ro quiet  splash or kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=3a528faf-1b24-4529-a5b0-24595830a939 ro silent  splash or kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=3a528faf-1b24-4529-a5b0-24595830a939 ro splash
[05:07] <aboo0ood> hi everybody,
[05:07] <badkitty> hi
[05:07] <fr500_> atomdog2003: hmm when you did the alt-f2 thingy, did it ask for a user and pass?
[05:07] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  i think the port is different thru gnome
[05:07] <fr500_> atomdog2003: no
[05:07] <atomdog2003> fr500_: no
[05:07] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, those printed a lot of things.
[05:07] <anderswc> do I need to delete all those?
[05:07] <Jay-Oh-En> fr500, nickrud, look at my last post
[05:07] <fr500_> atomdog2003: mount -t smbfs //servername/sharename /mountdirectory
[05:07] <badkitty> Who was the guy who had the resolution problem
[05:08] <fr500_> Jay-Oh-En: won't work, you can't have the text below the splash, usplash doesnt feature that
[05:08] <nickrud> Jay-Oh-En: I'm not sure what text you're talking about.  ro quiet splash is the default, just puts up the splash screen with the rolling colored ok messages
[05:08] <badkitty> ratfinkkeyton: did the screen resolution thing work
[05:08] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Alright, take note of the paths of those files.  Are they in /usr/local  ?  You will see some in /etc/ for certain.  We will get those after.  We're looking for /usr/bin/ and /usr/local/bin entries.
[05:08] <anderswc> ok
[05:09] <Jay-Oh-En> nickrud, thats what i meant "splash screen with the rolling colored ok messages"
[05:09] <anderswc> copied the paths to gedit
[05:09] <Jay-Oh-En> nickrud, how do i do that
[05:09] <anderswc> looks like etc/init.d,
[05:09] <Gyrodog> hey how do I get to the xorg.conf in the terminal
[05:09] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: You will probably see some in /usr/lib and/or   /usr/local/lib.  Those need to be removed as well.
[05:09] <fr500_> Jay-Oh-En: you can't with ubuntu's usplash
[05:10] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: maybe you could have him put the results of the find up on pastebin, you could look it over and if it's selective enough have the find rm {}
[05:10] <badkitty> Gyrodog: /etc/X11
[05:10] <Jay-Oh-En> Jay-Oh-En, ive did it before
[05:10] <ZionPsyfer> nod
[05:10] <badkitty> Gyrodog: I think
[05:10] <atomdog2003> fr500_: timeout connecting to <IP_ADDRESS>:445
[05:10] <fr500_> atomdog2003: man.... no clue
[05:10] <Jay-Oh-En> fr500, ive did it before
[05:10] <fr500_> that is weird
[05:10] <Gyrodog> no thats not it
[05:10] <fr500_> let me test
[05:10] <fr500_> Jay-Oh-En: on Gutsy?
[05:10] <Gyrodog> I want to edit my xorg in the terminal screen
[05:10] <nickrud> Jay-Oh-En: I have that splash screen turned off, I like all the messages in text so I'm not experienced with usplash
[05:10] <Jay-Oh-En> fr500, yep in kubuntu
[05:10] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Let's follow nickrud's advice.  take the results of that find and put them up on pastebin.
[05:11] <badkitty> Gyrodog: Sorry Im in Vista... Ol lady wont let me install ubuntu on her lappy and too lazy to go get the live cd and reboot
[05:11] <badkitty> Gyrodog: U sure, make sure the x is CAPITOLIZED
[05:11] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: I'm not familiar enough with apache's libs, etc to say what's supposed to be there. So take my advice advisedly
[05:11] <Jay-Oh-En> nickrud, i meant i want the text like the splash screen and the text under it with scrolling ok messages
[05:11] <fr500_> atomdog2003: what is your IP address?
[05:11] <Gyrodog> it ain't
[05:12] <fr500_> Jay-Oh-En: i think it's not possible, it was on hoary i think
[05:12] <nickrud> fr500_: gutsy's splash dropped the scrolling colored ok text?
[05:12] <fr500_> but not now
[05:12] <Rubin> hrm. where do i tell ubuntu to hibernate when the battery runs out instead of going down hard?
[05:12] <Gyrodog> I wanna get to the editor and do it all from the terminal
[05:12] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: Aye, it's a good idea though, and safer.
[05:12] <Jay-Oh-En> nickrud, ive had it done before if that doesnt work im going to be mad
[05:12] <noelferreira> hi need to run a script with sudo option. But i don't want it to ask me for the sudo password. what should i do?
[05:12] <w00t`> hi
[05:12] <fr500_> nickrud: there is no text on the splash screen now, hasn't been any since feisty or something
[05:13] <nickrud> fr500_: and here I thought it was my machine :)
[05:13] <badkitty> Gyrodog: Are you in a terminal yet?
[05:13] <bkar> noelferreira-> run it in cron ?
[05:13] <fr500_> nickrud: it was like that when they used splashy i think, looooooong ago, splash screen
[05:13] <Jay-Oh-En> fr500, you dont know what your talking about cause i just did it two seconds ago but i got the list with white text before it
[05:13] <Gyrodog> yes I am in the terminal
[05:13] <noelferreira> no bkar
[05:13] <adrock358> genii you still here?
[05:13] <nickrud> Rubin: system->prefs->screensaver , power options button
[05:13] <bkar> noelferreira-> i meant run it in cron
[05:13] <Rubin> screensaver? lol
[05:13] <noelferreira> i'll have it as a icon bkar
[05:14] <fr500_> you mean splash screen plus scrolling text, like at the same time right Jay-Oh-En
[05:14] <bazhang> Jay-Oh-En: do you have usplash?
[05:14] <joel_> bkar: badkitty: this is ratfink, now joel
[05:14] <Jay-Oh-En> fr500, yes
[05:14] <badkitty> Gyrodog: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:14] <AngryElf> after a successful nvidia driver install I can start GDM just fine, but when i reboot, it fails to load -- any ideas why?
[05:14] <fr500_> Jay-Oh-En: older version?
[05:14] <joel_> problem remains after booting
[05:14] <Jay-Oh-En> bazhang, yeah
[05:14] <fr500_> atomdog2003: works here
[05:14] <chewd> okay... how do i kill an app?
[05:14] <Gyrodog> thats wut I want thank you
[05:14] <Rubin> thanks nickrud
[05:14] <noelferreira> bkar, i want to create a launcher with the script but i don't want to use gksudo
[05:14] <chewd> totem wont come out of fullscreen
[05:14] <Jay-Oh-En> fr500, nope i just installed off the gutsy disk
[05:14] <fr500_> atomdog2003: are you on the same subnet
[05:14] <badkitty> Ok joel
[05:14] <nickrud> Rubin: yw (scrolls back to see what he did right)
[05:14] <JAL1> chewd: killall
[05:14] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, ok, I purged my system of apache2 :D
[05:14] <JAL1> killall app
[05:15] <fr500_> Jay-Oh-En: sorry i might be wrong, i just dont know
[05:15] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  yeah
[05:15] <chewd> in console i presume?
[05:15] <JAL1> yes
[05:15] <w00t`> right now i'm using ubuntu but i can't see other window machine in our network? my machine connected to internet thru network.
[05:15] <adrock358> Genii!!!!!!!
[05:15] <fr500_> atomdog2003: can you disable any firewall on the windows computer just for testing purpose?
[05:15] <chewd> how do i get konsole up without access to the menu bar?
[05:15] <w00t`> any idea?
[05:15] <adrock358> Ok, I need some help
[05:15] <bazhang> w00t`: you want to share files/folders?
[05:15] <w00t`> if i use livecd it shows window machines
[05:15] <JAL1> chewd, lol wheres the menu bar ?
[05:15] <w00t`> bazhang,  no
[05:16] <chewd> behind totem
[05:16] <nickrud> chewd: #kubuntu has better help for kde, usually
[05:16] <chewd> totem wont come out of fullscreen
[05:16] <w00t`> just want to see/browse windows machine
[05:16] <adrock358> I can use my wireless off Live CD and not installed.  Anybody?
[05:16] <fr500_> w00t`: go to system, administration, sharing services and install samba thry there
[05:16] <Gyrodog> I can't get my visual effects to work thats y I wanted to get into the xorg I tried the composite on 0 and 1 still don't work my ati card is installed corectlly
[05:16] <JAL1> chewd, did you tried pressing the "F"
[05:16] <nickrud> chewd: oh, ctl-alt-f2, log in, and type pkill totem
[05:16] <w00t`> fr500, its installed :)
[05:16] <atomdog2003> fr500_:  I'll try that - I gotta go right now - thx for the help
[05:16] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Alright, are the files in /etc/apache2 and the /etc/init.d/apache2 file gone?
[05:16] <bkar> adrock358-> you want to have access to wireless in liveCD? it is very possible
[05:16] <bazhang> w00t`: listen to fr500_
[05:16] <fr500_> atomdog2003: np
[05:16] <nickrud> chewd: ctl-alt-f7 to get back
[05:16] <w00t`> bazhang, its installed
[05:17] <anderswc> yeah, i did the sudo find again and nothing came up
[05:17] <chewd> pressing F... or double clicked... either of which should bring totem out of rullscreen doesnt work
[05:17] <Shadow147> Gyrodog I think you may have to disable it
[05:17] <chewd> it goes right back to fullscreen
[05:17] <adrock358> bkar, nah.................when i use livecd my wireless conn works.  after install, it doesn't
[05:17] <fr500_> w00t`: then set you workgrup to be the same as on windows pcs
[05:17] <w00t`> supposed to be i can see after install
[05:17] <bazhang> w00t`: ntfs-3g then
[05:17] <chewd> only goes windowed for a an instant
[05:17] <w00t`> bazhang, not that
[05:17] <bkar> adrock358-> is the os installed now?
[05:17] <patogen> @@@3
[05:17] <chewd> i think maybe its confused by my dual-display
[05:17] <NetMan-> hi people
[05:17] <nickrud> chewd: have you run totem with sudo?
[05:17] <Rubin> chewd, try alt-f2
[05:17] <w00t`> fr500,  its the same
[05:17] <fr500_> ntfs-3g doesnt have to do anything with samba
[05:17] <patogen> How come I canÃ¤t connect to my NFS share from OS X?
[05:17] <bazhang> w00t`: no idea then what you are looking for sorry
[05:17] <Gyrodog> I just remembered there is a file I got to d/l
[05:17] <Rubin> chewd, if that doesnt work, ctrl-alt-f1 and login on a virtual terminal
[05:18] <patogen> Works poerfectly fine from ubuntu ...
[05:18] <nickrud> chewd: never mind the sudo comment, you are probably on the right track
[05:18] <adrock358> genii was helpin me.  some reason he pointed me here: http://www.cs278.org/blog/ubuntu-configuration/feisty-debootstrap-encrypted-install/.  i'm half way through, just need help at this one part
[05:18] <fr500_> w00t`: you want to access computers on the same LAN like on windows right? like shared folders?
[05:18] <w00t`> bazhang, when i use livecd i can browse window machine....
[05:18] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Alright, 'apt-get install apache2'   followed by an 'apt-get --reinstall php5' and a 'apt-get --reinstall install libapache2-mod-php5'
[05:18] <Hkittysmoothie> is there a standalone app for ubuntu that can act as a replacement for the system tray?
[05:18] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, ok
[05:18] <w00t`> fr500, yes
[05:18] <ZionPsyfer> gah
[05:18] <adrock358> yeah, os is installed now
[05:18] <patogen> Hkittysmoothie: alltray
[05:18] <badkitty> anderswc: hang on
[05:18] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc:  'apt-get --reinstall install php5'
[05:18] <fr500_> w00t`: can you ping the other pc?
[05:19] <w00t`> fr500, yes i can
[05:19] <adrock358> patogen. what with name?
[05:19]  * ZionPsyfer goes to get another cup of java.
[05:19] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: if he deleted the /etc/apache2 directory, he'll have to purge libapache2-mod-php5 to get back the php5.conf & load
[05:19] <w00t`> its just i cant see them, so i can browse
[05:19] <patogen> adrock358: Hmm what with name?
[05:19] <bkar> adrock358-> which part are you getting stuck? btw you need to prefix my nick on your responses to me, messages flying and will miss yours
[05:19] <chapium> can anyone help?  I have 3 harddrives and a cdrom connected to an ubuntu system.  However, I cannot figure out what one of the harddrives is called to mount it
[05:19] <Hkittysmoothie> patogen: No, I mean something that is a *replacement* for the system tray thing on the gnome panel
[05:19] <patogen> Hkittysmoothie: Oh sorry, dont know then
[05:19] <johnny_> hi,  i'm having some trouble with my volume applet, it  doesn't show up in the "Add to Panel" list
[05:19] <Rubin> Hkittysmoothie, you want the gnome tray without gnome?
[05:19] <johnny_> i've tried reinstalling it
[05:20] <johnny_> no dice so far
[05:20] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: --reinstall install should cover that, correct?
[05:20] <w00t`> i think it happen when i update my pc
[05:20] <Rubin> Hkittysmoothie, other window managers have their own thing.. like window maker has its own way of doing that with little dock apps.
[05:20] <KyMc1985> Hi all, just trying to install Ubuntu 6.06 but I keep getting this: "[17179569.388000] Code:  Bad EIP value."
[05:20] <johnny_> also found a suggestion to change the icon theme
[05:20] <badkitty> anderswc: take a look at this http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_debian_lamp_server
[05:20] <johnny_> no dice with that
[05:20] <Rubin> KyMc1985, why such an old release?
[05:20] <olddude67> chapium, what type of drives ide or sata?
[05:20] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: no, dpkg assumes that a conffile in /etc is missing because the sysadmin did it on purpose, so it won't put it back
[05:20] <w00t`> is this a BUG?
[05:20] <w00t`> i read some issue
[05:20] <KyMc1985> takes too long to download a copy or to get it shipped lol
[05:20] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, Yeah, I figured that one out :)
[05:21] <Hkittysmoothie> Rubin: So can I use an standalone app as a replacement for the gnome tray?
[05:21] <Ellement> help i cant install the xorg-driver-fglrx package. can anyone help me plz
[05:21] <Rubin> Hkittysmoothie, not that i know of, no.
[05:21] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: That's good to know.  Thank you. =)
[05:21] <Rubin> KyMc1985, tried googling that error?
[05:21] <adrock358> yeah i figured that much bkar, just wasn't completely sure I guess.  welll i need to mount the rooy, but not mounted the way they show.  i need to mount it, but not using dev mapp
[05:21] <KyMc1985> waiting for it to load
[05:21] <badkitty> Ellement: Why not?
[05:21] <anderswc> ok, installs done. now should it work (once I start it)?
[05:22] <Hkittysmoothie> Rubin, then is there a way to change the background color of the system tray (I'm using it on AWN, if that helps)?
[05:22] <adrock358> patogen, just wondering the name.  what is the significance to you of 'patogen'?  I am merely curious.
[05:22] <fr500_> can you try alt-f2 then smb://ipofotherpc?
[05:22] <chapium> olddude67: the drives from my knowledge are ide, however they are showing up as sda, sdb, etc.  This is an old pentium 3 system
[05:22] <badkitty> anderswc: Could help to view this page http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_debian_lamp_server
[05:22] <Ellement> keeps saying break (install)
[05:22] <Ellement> badkitty: keeps saying break (install)
[05:22] <Rubin> Hkittysmoothie, right click the panel its on, select properties.. change to background tab.
[05:22] <olddude67> chapium, version of ubuntu are you running?
[05:23] <nickrud> chapium: that's a new scheme controlled by libata, and it also has to do with the new UUID scheme in fstab and menu.lst. There's a link in the next factoid
[05:23] <badkitty> Ellement: Hmmm.. All the repositories enabled and everything?
[05:23] <Hkittysmoothie> Rubin, I've gotten rid of the panel, that's why I need the color to work with my awn theme.
[05:23] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Let's try it for the heck of it.  I have a feeling we'll have to do the purge (if you didn't).
[05:23] <nickrud> !libata | chapium
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libata - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <w00t`> fr500, is that for me
[05:23] <fr500_> yes
[05:23] <olddude67> chapium, cause the will go in order sda first drive and so on.
[05:23] <nickrud> !uuid | chapium (um, second factoid :)
[05:23] <ubotu> chapium (um, second factoid :): To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[05:23] <Rubin> Hkittysmoothie, dunno, sorry.
[05:23] <Ellement> badkitty: i'm currently in adept manager, how can i check if all repositiories are enabled?
[05:23] <Jay-Oh-En> nickrud, i got it to work but i get the black screen with the grey text before the splash screen with scrolling ok's
[05:23] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, looks like it got put in a different place than before ...
[05:23] <w00t`> fr500, error
[05:24] <chewd> yow... note to self.. never run totem in fullscreen... the only way out is a hard-reboot
[05:24] <Hkittysmoothie> Rubin, Allrighty, thanks anyway.
[05:24] <w00t`> fr500, Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: ipofotherpc".
[05:24] <nickrud> Jay-Oh-En: yeah, I like that :)  you need quiet I guess
[05:24] <KyMc1985> Only thing I could see is about PNP in the BIOS, trying a command "linux nobiospnp"
[05:24] <anderswc> cause /usr/local/apache2/ doesn't exist
[05:24] <Jay-Oh-En> nickrud, i dont like it like that i just want the scrolling oks
[05:24] <misslecommander> can someone tell me if this is a good way to backup, just incase i need to use recovery mode ? -> cp -R /etc /home/recovery/etc
[05:24] <Rubin> KyMc1985, this error happens during bootup? or later?
[05:25] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Yes, the apt package installs in a different path.
[05:25] <Jay-Oh-En> nickrud, i dont like it like that i just want the scrolling oks with the splash screen**
[05:25] <Rubin> misslecommander, i think that should work well
[05:25] <nickrud> Jay-Oh-En: like I said, I prefer all the text, so I disabled usplash and don't know much about it
[05:25] <fr500_> w00t`: hehe you had to type the ip of the other pc instead
[05:25] <Rubin> misslecommander, you can do -a instead, to preserve links..
[05:25] <badkitty> Ellement: I'm in vista so Im not too much use at the moment, what I would do is a google search to see what repo's are needed, then go into the sources manager and see if the correct ones are enabled
[05:25] <misslecommander> Rubin: thank you
[05:25] <albert_kam> Hi people. Have you experienced this before : the usb disks got detected and worked fine, and suddenly after a few weeks, the usb disks dont get detected anymore, but in windows with the same pc and the same usb disks, they went fine. I tried fdisk -l, but no usb devices are detected. What can possibly go wrong ?
[05:25] <Ellement> badkitty: i have multiverse, universe and restricted checked
[05:25] <anderswc> hmm, where is it?
[05:25] <w00t`> :)
[05:25] <adrock358> bkar.   yeah i figured that much, just wasn't completely sure I guess.  welll i need to mount the rooy, but not mounted the way they show.  i need to mount it, but not using dev mapp
[05:25] <SpudDogg> Has anyone else tried to play a Mr Woodcock DVD in ubuntu?  Seems to be some new encryption on there or something...Anyone have some insight?
[05:25] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Are you looking for your webroot?
[05:25] <KyMc1985> Rubin: It happens while just loading the CD to install it.
[05:26] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: /var/www/
[05:26] <badkitty> SpudDogg you have libdvdcss2?
[05:26] <fr500_> SpudDogg: i dont think so, meybe another zone
[05:26] <anderswc> ahh
[05:26] <Rubin> KyMc1985, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=629973
[05:26] <SpudDogg> badkitty: yea...any other dvd i've tried has been fine
[05:26] <Rubin> KyMc1985, is that a 64bit system?
[05:27] <NoelJB> albert_kam: if you tail the logs when attaching/removing, do you see anything USB related?
[05:27] <SpudDogg> fr500_: wouldn't the player ask me what zone?
[05:27] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, and how do I start apache?
[05:27] <w00t`> fr500, i see the shared docs
[05:27]  * jdh6403 yawns
[05:27] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[05:27] <nickrud> SpudDogg: I've heard that the new chris rock/jackie chan dvd has the same problem
[05:27] <albert_kam> NoelJB : i tried tail -f /var/log/messages, nothing suspicious. to be precise, nothing happens.
[05:27] <SpudDogg> nickrud: no solution yet?
[05:27] <fr500_> SpudDogg: you can't change zones many times
[05:27] <badkitty> Ellement: Did you google to see if any extra reos are needed?
[05:27] <NoelJB> albert_kam: Gutsy?
[05:27] <johnny_> i'm trying to re add the volume control
[05:27] <johnny_> but it is totally gone
[05:27] <johnny_> every other applet is there
[05:28] <chewd> aw crap now my network is broken again
[05:28] <johnny_> just not thatone
[05:28] <johnny_> it makes no sense
[05:28] <KyMc1985> Rubin: nope, x86
[05:28] <adrock358> Can anybody help me out with this? http://www.cs278.org/blog/ubuntu-configuration/feisty-debootstrap-encrypted-install/
[05:28] <w00t`> but i dont want to try that one by one :)
[05:28] <nickrud> SpudDogg: no, I haven't. Probably a new version of libdvdcss2 will appear some day
[05:28] <fr500_> SpudDogg: you can change 4 times on a cd-writer
[05:28] <Rubin> KyMc1985, could be a bad disk you got, or a hardware problem.. or just some incompatability. I think its prolly worth getting a 7.10 disc.. a LOT has changed in the last year.
[05:28] <chewd> so much for my batting avg
[05:28] <fr500_> w00t`: ???
[05:28] <adrock358> I am using debootstrapper
[05:28] <fr500_> w00t`: try this sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[05:28] <w00t`> fr500, i see the shared docs on the other computer
[05:28] <fr500_> and try browsing again
[05:28] <SpudDogg> nickrud: are you familiar with anydvd for winblows?
[05:28] <johnny_> adrock358,gusty comes with encrypted
[05:28] <johnny_> just use that
[05:28] <KyMc1985> Rubin: The code went from Bad EIP value to a whole lot of hex: 5f 5d c3 8d b4 26 00 00 00 00 85 c9 75 dc a1 98 75 33 c0 89 85 30 01 00 00 8b 1c 24 83 c3 7c 8d 55 08 8b 4d 08 8b 42 04 89 41 04 <89> 08 8b 0c 24 8b 41 7c 89 50 04 89 45 08 89 5a 04 89 51 7c eb
[05:28] <johnny_> it was very easy to setup on the alternative cd
[05:29] <w00t`> fr500, i did that after installing the samba :) .... but gonna try it again :)
[05:29] <badkitty> SpudDogg: gasp not ANYDVD I hate that cunnning fox
[05:29] <albert_kam> NoelJB: actually i'm just asking for my friend, he's using opensuse 9.2 .. i think you people are very active here, so i ask in this channel, sorry :p
[05:29] <misslecommander> sudo cp -R /etc /home/username/recovery/etc(to backup) and sudo cp -R /home/username/recovery/etc /etc(to recover) ??
[05:29] <fr500_> w00t`: I'd make sure workgroup is the same
[05:29] <Rubin> KyMc1985, theres a lot you could try but i dont think its worth anyones time to debug 1+ year old kernel .. the bug prolly was fixed a long time ago
[05:29] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, /etc/init.d/apache2 doesn't exist!
[05:29] <KyMc1985> must likely lol
[05:29] <adrock358> well genii said that since my wireless works with livecd and not with the installed ububtu that i need to run debootstrapper.ignore all the decypted stuff
[05:30] <adrock358> johnny_previous post
[05:30] <w00t`> fr500, now it stop/start smb
[05:30] <fr500_> w00t`: you can see the workgroup by running sudo testparm
[05:30] <NoelJB> albert_kam: I can't help you with SuSE.  I've jokingly sung that "If you knew SuSE like I know SuSE, you'd never use SuSE again"
[05:30] <nickrud> SpudDogg: I do my best not to be familiar with anything on windows, and pretty successfully :)
[05:30] <misslecommander> ZionPsyfer: this look good ->> sudo cp -R /etc /home/username/recovery/etc(to backup) and sudo cp -R /home/username/recovery/etc /etc(to recover) ??
[05:30] <Rubin> misslecommander, use -a instead of -R you get more fully preserved results
[05:31] <albert_kam> NoelJB: haha .. i thought this problem is something unrelated with distributions. Thanks anyway ..
[05:31] <misslecommander> Rubin: ok
[05:31] <adrock358> does anybody know anything about this?  my wireless works with livecd but not when installed
[05:31] <Shadow147> NoelJB I never used suse before but I prefer ubuntu
[05:31] <KyMc1985> whats the proper size of the 7.10 disc (MB wize)
[05:31] <adrock358> i was told to go here http://www.cs278.org/blog/ubuntu-configuration/feisty-debootstrap-encrypted-install/
[05:31] <misslecommander> adrocks358: mine works when it wants :)
[05:31] <Shadow147> about 685MB
[05:31] <SpudDogg> nickrud: i don't blame you...
[05:31] <NoelJB> albert_kam: no worries. I can say that I've not seen that problem with Feisty or Gutsy, and have had USB drives mounted on a server for months on end.
[05:31] <albert_kam> NoelJB: Anyway, could i ask, what have you found wrong in suse ? I'm just curious ..
[05:31] <badkitty> KyMc1985: Just do an Md5 checksum
[05:32] <chewd> adrock: maybe youre running into what i just did... the install doesnt put samba on by default
[05:32] <KyMc1985> a wha?
[05:32] <Shadow147> KyMc1985 about 685MB or closer
[05:32] <adrock358> ha ha that's funny.  but i've been doing this all day.  i just need it done
[05:32] <sdakak> i am looking at themes. what are the differences between gtk 1.x, 2.x. metacity and compiz themes on gnome-look.org?
[05:32] <w00t`> fr500, i did that testparm, but i cant see any workgroup there
[05:32] <badkitty> KyMc1985: Are you trying to make sure the file you downloaded is uncorrupted?
[05:32] <misslecommander> adrocks358: if it works with LiveCD it should work without it. i know what you mean, took me 3 days to get my wireless working right
[05:32] <w00t`> workgroup name
[05:32] <KyMc1985> badkitty: yes, just to make sure, used a download manager. trying not to use too many cds lol
[05:32] <Shadow147> most likely it was a bad burn
[05:32] <albert_kam> Actually i've been using suse for around 4 years now, and i've just ordered 5 dvds of ubuntu 7.1, and i'm gonna try it at my homestay .. :p
[05:33] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Heh, nickrud is correct then.  'sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2'  do that to php5 and libapache2-mod-php5
[05:33] <w00t`> only the server string...
[05:33] <Rubin> sdakak, compiz is the newfangled 3d crazyness. metacity is the gnome window manager by default.. and gtk is the toolkit that gtk based apps use to draw widgets (buttons and stuff)
[05:33] <fr500_> w00t`: it says press any key, and just after that it appears
[05:33] <crdlb> sdakak: ignore the 'compiz' themes, they are misnamed and shouldn't even be on that site anymore, 'metacity' thmes are the default window border themes, and gtk2 themes theme the contents of gnome apps
[05:33] <chewd> so, does ubuntu have an equivalent of the windows task manager?
[05:33] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: then install all of them.  Fresh and clean
[05:33] <Shadow147> badkitty most likly it was a bad burn
[05:33] <w00t`> fr500, there is
[05:33] <NoelJB> adrock358: no clue, but I'll add a datapoint for you.  I had a similar situation last year with feisty, where the live boot worked, the install failed.  I didn't have time to track it down, so I finally installed RH on that particular old legacy box.
[05:33] <misslecommander> adrocks358: i will make a URL you can look at, in what i did to get it working if you want
[05:33] <fr500_> chewd: gnome-system-monitor
[05:33] <johnny_> chewd, System monitor
[05:33] <badkitty> KyMc1985: http://losrivas21.blogspot.com/2006/04/how-to-verify-md5-checksum-of-ubuntu.html
[05:33] <chewd> ahh
[05:33] <fr500_> or top :d
[05:33] <Rubin> chewd, open a terminal, us the 'ps' command to see processes, and 'kill' to stop them.
[05:33] <chewd> is there a hotkey for it?
[05:33] <johnny_> uggh...
[05:33] <johnny_> htop is great
[05:33] <johnny_> on the cli
[05:33] <slliness> can someone pls point me to the ps3 live disc as I need it badly to fix a system and I already dled the wrong one. I am assuming that the gusty version is broken as well?
[05:34] <sdakak> Rubin: crdlb: lets talk gtk do i need 1.x or 2.x?
[05:34] <johnny_>  better than top.. especially for multi cpu
[05:34] <misslecommander> just let me back this up while its working and i will see if what i have helps
[05:34] <chewd> well the problem i had.. i couldnt open a terminal window.. no access to the menus
[05:34] <Rubin> sdakak, 2
[05:34] <chewd> program was stuck in fullscreen
[05:34] <johnny_> uggh
[05:34] <Shadow147> badkitty I have had bad burns plenty of time he should reduce his burning to the speed the cd can handle
[05:34] <chewd> which is why i needed to kill it
[05:34] <johnny_> where did the applet go..
[05:34] <fr500_> w00t`: is the workgroup the same?
[05:34] <w00t`> fr500, do i need to change in service definitions?
[05:34] <soldats> chewd, do ctrl+alt+F(key)
[05:34] <sdakak> Rubin: crdlb: talking about metacity, if i download a metacity theme would that also theme my gtk apps?
[05:34] <Rubin> chewd, alt-f2 usually gets you a 'run' prompt.. then you could type 'gnome-terminal' in it to get a text console...
[05:34] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander: The backup works, but I'd never cp -R the whole dir back.  Just copy back the config file that's giving you trouble.
[05:34] <Rubin> sdakak, unknown
[05:34] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: one more thing: purging apache2 won't do the trick, you have to purge the packages that apache2 installs.  dpkg -l '*apache* | grep ^ii gives you a list
[05:35] <badkitty> Shadow147: Did he mention having problems? I thought he wanted to test before he had problems cause hes short on discs
[05:35] <sdakak> Rubin: crdlb: i cant make out the difference between gtk and metacity themes. could you elaborate?
[05:35] <w00t`> fr500, i cant see any workgroup name as same the window machine
[05:35] <crdlb> sdakak: metacity themes theme the titlebars only
[05:35] <adrock358> misslecommander.  i know but it won't!  i'm going crazy man!  didn't even go to work today!!!!!!  and it's not done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I don't know how too get it to work this pretty knowledgeable guy said install with debootstrapper.  it sounded like a good idea, but he told me to mount the root without dev mapper.  i don't know anything about linux...i just installed it and haven't written a line of cod in my life.  But I LOVE it
[05:35] <chewd> yea i did ctrl-alt-f2  i think it was... took me to fullscreen console... i couldnt figure out how to get back out
[05:35] <chewd> ended up hitting hardware reset
[05:35] <Rubin> sdakak, metacity is the window manager. gtk is the toolkit
[05:35] <w00t`> but when i look thru windows i can see this ubuntu machine
[05:35] <fr500_> w00t`: hmmm
[05:35] <misslecommander> adrock358: hang in there, be back soon
[05:35] <Rubin> sdakak, each type would affect differnt aspects of the gui
[05:35] <fr500_> w00t`: try sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:35] <Shadow147> badkitty well I have had a similar problem with another user awhile ago
[05:35] <badkitty> chewd ctrl-alt f7 i believe
[05:35] <NoelJB> chewd: "back out"?  Back to the GUI?  CTRL-ALT-F7
[05:36] <sdakak> Rubin: crdlb: lets talk in lay mans terms. tell me the effects of theming a toolking 'gtk'. i get the metacity part.
[05:36] <Jacob> hey all whats upso I am very new to linux...downloading cd now
[05:36] <chewd> ahh
[05:36] <fr500_> w00t`: there should be a line that says workgroup, what does it say
[05:36]  * chewd writes that down
[05:36] <Rubin> sdakak, theming gtk changes how buttons look, etc
[05:36] <Shadow147> Jscob good
[05:36] <Rubin> sdakak, best way to understand is just to try some.
[05:36] <sdakak> Rubin: crdlb: buttons and?
[05:36] <misslecommander> rubin: shoot, i forget the switch you said is better than -R
[05:36] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, Ok, I purged and reinstalled everything.
[05:36] <badkitty> Hi jacob
[05:36] <NoelJB> chewd: you have different consoles.  console 7 is setup with your window manager.
[05:36] <Rubin> misslecommander, -a .  you can use 'man cp' to read about all the options.
[05:36] <sdakak> Rubin: i tried. but would like a little info.
[05:36] <nickrud> sdakak: gtk2 themes everything inside the window borders.  gtk1 is obsolete, but a couple of apps still use it. It also themes the stuff inside the window borders
[05:36] <Jacob> hi bad kitty
[05:36] <Rubin> sdakak, im no theme expert. i like the default ubuntu look
[05:36] <adrock358> misslecommander.  ok, go for it, but this guy had me on the right track.  i think he's right.  i just have to finish this guide.  getting impatient., but i have to get this done
[05:36] <chewd> ahh
[05:37] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: you don't think purging apache won't cause an install to recreate /etc/init.d/apache2?   He had compiled it in the first place before he used apt.
[05:37] <misslecommander> Rubin: thats small letter a right ?
[05:37] <Jacob> whats up so I have no idea what i am doing
[05:37] <NoelJB> chewd: do a Google search for linux virtual terminal
[05:37] <w00t`> fr500,  workgroup=workgroup
[05:37] <chewd> so i shouldve done ctrl-alt-f7    then i wouldve gotten a windowed console?
[05:37] <Rubin> misslecommander, yes. short for archive
[05:37] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: And, what's the verdict on the /etc/init.d/apache2?
[05:37] <sdakak> Rubin: nickrud: gtk = inside windows change -- buttons and?
[05:37] <Jacob> my main concern is having an internet connection once I am done installing
[05:37] <Shadow147> Jacob ok when you do your burn make sure to set your burner to the speed that your cd can handle I think using a higher speed may cause aproblems
[05:37] <chewd> whereas f2 gets you fullscreen?
[05:37] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, still not there :(
[05:37] <Rubin> sdakak, everything..
[05:37] <Jacob> thanks
[05:37] <Rubin> sdakak, its up to programs though.. theres no science to it
[05:37] <Jacob> jacob writes down
[05:37] <misslecommander> adrock358: these guys have way more experieince than me, i will just give u what i had to go through, and maybe something may help, be back
[05:38] <badkitty> Jacob, you can always dual boot, or even test out the OS before you install it
[05:38] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Alright, thanks for being patient.  =)  I'm learning a bunch here too.
[05:38] <anderswc> lol
[05:38] <Shadow147> Jacob what do you use to connect to the net and ethernet card?
[05:38] <adrock358> misslecommander, wait
[05:38] <chewd> pressing ctrl-alt-f7 now... getting nothing
[05:38] <Jacob> wireless but I can use ethernet
[05:38] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: So all the packages listed with dpkg -l need to be purged, correct?
[05:38] <adrock358> don't worry about it, i'll just ask someone else misslecommander
[05:38] <badkitty> chewd: No ctrl -alt-f7 take you back in window..
[05:38] <NoelJB> chewd: CTRL-ALT-Fn gets you to terminal N.
[05:38] <Rubin> chewd, you need to learn about linux virtual terminals
[05:38] <chewd> ooooooh
[05:38] <chewd> okay
[05:38] <fr500_> w00t`: ok, now on the windows PC
[05:38] <Rubin> chewd, go google it a bit
[05:38] <chewd> yes i do
[05:38] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, BTW this is the command I used to install "apt-get install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5"
[05:38] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: the stuff that goes into /etc/apache2 is provided by apache2-common . And apache2 isn't really the web server, it installs one of apache2-mpm-event , apache2-mpm-prefork, or apache2-worker . prefork is the preferred one, if you don't specify
[05:38] <adrock358> misscommander, do you know how to mount a root?
[05:39] <fr500_> w00t`: can you tell me what is the workgroup?
[05:39] <NoelJB> linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/02/determine-virtual-terminal-you-are.html
[05:39] <anderswc> in case I messed something up...
[05:39] <Shadow147> Jacob I would suggest use ethernet until you can get your wireless setup
[05:39]  * chewd is an old hand at dos
[05:39] <Rubin> chewd, its a basic seriously important aspect of any linux system.
[05:39] <Jacob> noted
[05:39] <fr500_> w00t`: by default it's mshome
[05:39] <adrock358> misslecommander, do you know how to mount a root?
[05:39] <chewd> yea i gathered
[05:39] <Jacob> then I can get help if i NEED TO
[05:39] <badkitty> chewd go to applications accessories terminal?
[05:39] <w00t`> yes there is mshome
[05:39]  * KyMc1985 has to download the ISO file once again, wrong checksums... hurrah.
[05:39] <ZionPsyfer> nickrud: Gotcha, so common is getting us.
[05:39] <chewd> seet
[05:39] <nickrud> sdakak: yes
[05:39] <chewd> er sweet
[05:39] <Jacob> willI eventually learn the commands?
[05:39] <adrock358> does anyone know how to mount a root?
[05:39] <chewd> well i gotta go to bed
[05:39] <chewd> thanks for your help
[05:39] <badkitty> Jacob: It is very likely you will ned help
[05:40] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: another useful command is   dpkg -L <packagename> , it lists the files in the package.
[05:40] <Rubin> adrock358, root is mounted automatically during boot
[05:40] <Jacob> thats what I fugured which led me here
[05:40] <w00t`> fr500,  we have 3 diff workgroup name
[05:40] <Jacob> lol
[05:40] <Shadow147> Jacob once you installed the the OS go to terminal in Applications> Accessories
[05:40] <badkitty> Jacob: If you made it this far, you will do just fine
[05:40] <w00t`> fr500,  the default "mshome, 1, 3 "
[05:40] <Shadow147> Jacob and type in the terminal sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:40] <sdakak> nickrud: now tell me are compiz themes = emerald?
[05:40] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc:  run this  and note the package names.  dpkg -l '*apache*' | grep ^ii
[05:41] <adrock358> rubin check this guidehttp://www.cs278.org/blog/ubuntu-configuration/feisty-debootstrap-encrypted-install/    see step five.  i was told i'm not supposed to use dev mapp, but do it "normally"
[05:41] <badkitty> emerald is a theme manager
[05:41] <Rubin> sdakak, i think emerald is one sorta sub-piece of compiz
[05:41] <misslecommander> whew! all backed up, just incase something goes awry
[05:41] <NoelJB> chewd: for example, right now I am updating Hardy.  There will be a new kernel and some other things.  I will need to redo my video driver.  When I reboot, I will use CTRL-ALT-F2 to go to a separate terminal, stop the display manager, install the new video driver via a script, and then rehe GDM.start t
[05:41] <RyanPrior> Both VLC and Totem suddenly started playing videos wrong just now.  Sound comes out fine.
[05:41] <nickrud> sdakak: emerald a window border decorator
[05:41] <Shadow147> Jacob this will install xchat and u will be able to get back on to contact us
[05:41] <Rubin> adrock358, i dont understand
[05:41] <misslecommander> adrock358: you on fiesty ?
[05:41] <Jacob> shadow147: wil do
[05:41] <adrock358>  well, see step five rubin?
[05:42] <sdakak> Rubin: nickrud: i use ubuntu 7.10 (i think that uses compiz-fusion) so if i want to theme my window borders do i use emerald (compiz themes), metacity themes or beryl themes?
[05:42] <Rubin> adrock358, i do see it, but i dont get what it is
[05:42] <Jacob> as long as I canconnect
[05:42] <Jacob> lol
[05:42] <adrock358> misscommander i installe gutsy fresh
[05:42] <sdakak> Rubin: nickrud: can we use beryl themes at all in compiz-fusion?
[05:42] <fr500_> w00t`: three workgroups on a LAN?, well, try changing the line that says workgrup=workgroup to workgroup=mshome and then restart samba again
[05:42] <misslecommander> oh ok
[05:42] <Rubin> sdakak, 7.10 can use compiz or metacity depending on the settings
[05:42] <nickrud> sdakak: you can use metacity themes, but most people choose to use emerald
[05:42] <adrock358> ahhhh.  it's installing debootstrapper.  i know less than you my friend.  thank you though.
[05:42] <w00t`> fr500, ok i'll do that
[05:42] <sdakak> Rubin: nickrud: can i use beryl themes?
[05:42] <Jacob> thanks for all your help are you both on her often
[05:42] <misslecommander> adrock358: let me prepare a URL in pastebin, way too much to say in here. just from my short experience
[05:42] <nickrud> sdakak: the beryl project is dead, but the emerald decorator it used is now used with compiz
[05:42] <crdlb> nickrud: most is probably a bit of an exaggeration ;)
[05:42] <Rubin> adrock358, iv used debootstrap before.. i dont understand what /dev/mapper is
[05:43] <Jacob> I am new to xchatas well
[05:43] <anderswc> ZionPysfer, there are 5 packages
[05:43] <nickrud> crdlb: I use it, and I am legion :)
[05:43] <RyanPrior> Both VLC and Totem suddenly started playing videos wrong just now.  Sound comes out fine. How do I fix that?
[05:43] <sdakak> Rubin: nickrud: if 'emerald' is the name given to original beryl themes (is that correct?) than what are compiz themes called?
[05:43] <netou> RyanPrior:  that is weird because vlc uses its own video decoders
[05:43] <netou> RyanPrior: try using mplayer
[05:43] <Shadow147> Jacobjust make sure to have your ethernet cable plugged before installation and it will automatically setup your internet to your either net cable
[05:43] <RyanPrior> netou: Right, so as soon as Totem started getting out of whack I tried VLC, but same deal.
[05:43] <badkitty> Jacob: Any IRC chat client is fine, You can even use chatzilla or the default one that comes with pidgin
[05:43] <Shadow147> Jacob just make sure to have your ethernet cable plugged before installation and it will automatically setup your internet to your either net cable
[05:43] <nickrud> crdlb: off topic a bit, is the fact that I have to use emerald --replace to apply theme modifications just me?
[05:43] <Max_->  Hi, I'm actually on the LiveCD and trying to install... I've read somewhere that RAID were easy to setup on installation, ... now I can't see how to do this, my RAID partitions are not recognized and I can't set them back to raid partitions either.. what's wrong?
[05:43] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: K, take note of those.  I'm testing it on my system before I have you do this.
[05:43] <adrock358> hmm well do you understand the guide rubin?  all i have to do is install gutsy with debootstrapper.  that's what i was told.  and that should solve my wireless problems.  my problem was that my wireless works in live cd but not after i install
[05:44] <Rubin> RyanPrior, maybe a video driver problem.
[05:44] <slliness> can someone pls point me to the ps3 live disc as I need it badly to fix a system and I already dled the wrong one. I am assuming that the gusty version is broken as well?
[05:44] <Rubin> RyanPrior, they both probably use 'xv' to draw to the screen
[05:44] <nickrud> sdakak: emerald, it was carried over when beryl merged back with compiz to create compiz-fusion
[05:44] <RyanPrior> Rubin: It happened just now, though. I played one movie and it was fine, then it broke on the next one.
[05:44] <crdlb> nickrud: that is normal in Xgl (the way ubuntu starts it) due to a bug in emerald
[05:44] <Rubin> RyanPrior, try rebooting
[05:44] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Alright, this worked on my system.
[05:44] <sdakak> Rubin: nickrud: so compiz themes = emerald?
[05:44] <Jacob> ok
[05:44] <RyanPrior> Rubin: So I rebooted to see if that would fix it, and no dice,.
[05:44] <nickrud> crdlb: thanks
[05:44] <nickrud> sdakak: yes
[05:44] <Rubin> RyanPrior, weird..
[05:44] <Shadow147> Jacob badkitty true but xchat comes with ubuntu server preconfigured
[05:44] <nano__> I'm in need of help, cant get connected to the internet (neither wired nor wireless)
[05:44] <sdakak> nickrud: and beryl themes = ?
[05:44] <evw2k> i need some help
[05:44] <Jacob> is there a way to like book mark you so I can find you later?
[05:44] <Rubin> RyanPrior, what did you change?
[05:44] <netou> RyanPrior: change the video output to gl in vlc
[05:45] <adrock358> rubin dev mapper is a way to mount the drive.  i was told i need to mount it, just not with dev mapp
[05:45] <RyanPrior> Rubin: nothing. I was just watching movies and browsing the 'net.
[05:45] <Jacob> on this chat client
[05:45] <nickrud> sdakak: = dead
[05:45] <fr500_> w00t`: let me know if it works
[05:45] <Shadow147> Jacob not tat I know of
[05:45] <Rubin> adrock358, told by who?
[05:45] <Jacob> ok well look out forme
[05:45] <Jacob> lol
[05:45] <w00t`> fr500, now i did change the workgroup
[05:45] <Rubin> RyanPrior, try powering the system fully off for like 10 seconds and starting it up. maybe the video card is in a bad state
[05:45] <w00t`> and restart
[05:45] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, so what do you want me to do?
[05:46] <fr500_> w00t`: now try to browse
[05:46] <RyanPrior> netou: How do I turn output to gl?
[05:46] <w00t`> fr500, still dont show window machine :(
[05:46] <Shadow147> Jacob just follow the promts durning install and you will do just fine
[05:46] <Shadow147> Jacob prompts*
[05:46] <evw2k> so i created a 5 gig partition in windows xp using magicpartition, then used live cd to get onto ubuntu. Now whenever I get to the partition part of the installation it doesn't recognize that partition. In partition editor the partition has a lock symbol next to it. How do I unlock it? It's in ntfs format.
[05:46] <sdakak> nickrud: if i want to use compiz themes, than what would i have to do? i installed emerald-theme-manager and got one of the compiz themes from gnome-look. i didn't know how to disable metacity themes and enable the emerald theme. so i just did a reboot and now i have the emerald theme on. now if i want metacity back what do i do? (how do we easily change between the two?). i opened emerald-theme-manager and deleted my only emerald theme and did a reboot.
[05:46] <adrock358> then i need to follow the rest of the guide, but ignore all the encryption stuff.  i'm not going to lie rubin, if i get this working i will be very, very happy.   i'm sorry to say.  i'm on the verge of reinstalling windows
[05:46] <w00t`> ctrl-alt backsapce?
[05:46] <Jacob> yeah its after its insall that I am worried about
[05:46] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc:  'sudo apt-get --purge remove' all of the packages that were listed with that dpkg -l command.  After that has finished, run your 'apt-get install php5 apache2 libapache-mod-php5'.   This restored my config files in /etc/ as well as /etc/init.d
[05:46] <netou> RyanPrior: options -> preferences
[05:46] <badkitty> Jacob: You plan on completely moving to ubuntu or do you want to dualboot
[05:47] <Jacob> confuguring everything
[05:47] <fr500_> w00t`: try a reboot, but it's weird it doesn't work
[05:47] <RyanPrior> netou: Obviously that's what I tried, but I don't see an option anywhere.
[05:47] <Jacob> not sure what do you reccomend
[05:47] <w00t`> fr500, ok.. thanks... brb
[05:47] <nickrud> sdakak: to change over to emerald themes, type:  alt-f2  emerald --replace . To go back to metacity, type   alt-f2 metacity --replace
[05:47] <fr500_> w00t`: smb is working because you were able to access by IP
[05:47] <netou> RyanPrior: video ->output modules;       activate the "advance options" checkbox
[05:47] <Shadow147> Jacob thats what I did and I was able to connect to the net after installation
[05:47] <badkitty> Jacob: Depends, if your worried... dualboot that wa yo can use both, but you need the space for it
[05:47] <SeSsi0n> i have the partition ready when i go to install i get a bcm43xx_microcode5.fw error then it wont finish loading?
[05:47] <adrock358> this buy genii rubin.  he really sounded like he knew what he was doing.  he pulled up this guide and troubleshooted my problem in a matter of seconds almost.
[05:48] <evw2k>  so i created a 5 gig partition in windows xp using magicpartition, then used live cd to get onto ubuntu. Now whenever I get to the partition part of the installation it doesn't recognize that partition. In partition editor the partition has a lock symbol next to it. How do I unlock it? It's in ntfs format.
[05:48] <adrock358> rubin. guy not buy
[05:48] <sdakak> nickrud: can it be done through the gui?
[05:48] <Rubin> adrock358, so your trying to re-install your system with an encrypted disk?
[05:48] <nickrud> sdakak: not that I know of
[05:48] <Jacob> I have 120 ggb
[05:48] <Shadow147> Jacob do you have a 2nd Hard Drive?
[05:48] <sdakak> nickrud: like we have 'live' changes for metacity themes does the same apply to compiz themes?
[05:48] <Jacob> no
[05:48] <Shadow147> Jacob ok
[05:48] <badkitty> Jacob: Thats enough still
[05:48] <SeSsi0n> i have the partition ready when i go to install i get a bcm43xx_microcode5.fw error then it wont finish loading?
[05:48] <Jacob> how do I dual boot
[05:48] <RyanPrior> netou: I don't have video -> output modules. :-(
[05:48] <RyanPrior> !dualboot | Jacob
[05:48] <ubotu> Jacob: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[05:48] <badkitty> Jacob: What OS do you currently have?
[05:49] <Jacob> xp
[05:49] <sdakak> nickrud: the emerald theme that is active at the moment has been deleted by me. but still it is on. how do i remove it?
[05:49] <nickrud> sdakak: not for me, I was just told that because I'm using ati with xserver-xgl there's a bug that requires me to do emerald --replace to apply any changes.
[05:49] <adrock358> rubin.  no.  ignore all encryption stuff.  just trying to install using debootstrap or with a debootstrap version.  i don't even know what i'm doing besides that.  i'm just following this guide because this guy said it would help me get my wireless working
[05:49] <netou> RyanPrior: :S  i have all in spanish so i tried to translate it
[05:49] <Rubin> adrock358, that guide you pasted me is a guide for encrypting your hard disk...
[05:49] <Shadow147> Jacob I would suggest you split the Hard Drive in Half
[05:49] <luchador> anyone know why im connected to my wireless network, but im getting like 1 Kb a second
[05:49] <Rubin> adrock358, why are you debootstrapping exactly?
[05:49] <evw2k>  so i created a 5 gig partition in windows xp using magicpartition, then used live cd to get onto ubuntu. Now whenever I get to the partition part of the installation it doesn't recognize that partition. In partition editor the partition has a lock symbol next to it. How do I unlock it? It's in ntfs format.
[05:49] <adrock358> yeah no kidding but did you read the part about debootstrapper? rubin
[05:49] <Jacob> ok....?
[05:50] <Jacob> lol
[05:50] <NoelJB> adrock358: which wireless adapter?
[05:50] <SeSsi0n> i have the partition ready when i go to install i get a bcm43xx_microcode5.fw error then it wont finish loading?
[05:50] <Jacob> I am very new
[05:50] <Rubin> adrock358, there are guides for debootstrap that dont use encryption...
[05:50] <nickrud> sdakak: We've pretty much exhausted what I know about compiz :)  The people on #compiz-fusion know much more than I do
[05:50] <badkitty> Jacob: Basically the ubuntu install does all the work for you, the main thing is setting up the partitions and making sure when you install, ubuntu knows to install only to the empty partition
[05:50] <sdakak> nickrud: emerald --replace and metacity --replace, can be used safely in a nvidia system, right? or are there more 'correct' ways to toggle it?
[05:50] <noelferreira> i have a script that i need o run with sudo. and i want to create a launcher with it. however i don't want that it asks me for sudo's password. what should i do?
[05:50] <Rubin> adrock358, but why not just re-install from CD?
[05:50] <adrock358> belkin f5d7050 noeljb
[05:50] <evw2k>  so i created a 5 gig partition in windows xp using magicpartition, then used live cd to get onto ubuntu. Now whenever I get to the partition part of the installation it doesn't recognize that partition. In partition editor the partition has a lock symbol next to it. How do I unlock it? It's in ntfs format.
[05:50] <netou> RyanPrior: try figuring out, i have to go to sleep
[05:50] <sdakak> nickrud: thank you.
[05:50] <Jacob> ok
[05:50] <nickrud> sdakak: that's the only way I've ever seen mentioned. Like I said, #compiz-fusion knows best
[05:51] <SeSsi0n> i have the partition ready when i go to install i get a bcm43xx_microcode5.fw error then it wont finish loading?
[05:51] <adrock358> rubin did you read what i said before?  the woreless only works with live cd, not after install.  and genii told me that i need to reinstall with debootstrapper.
[05:51] <Shadow147> badkitty so Jacob will need to partition the hard drive to make another empty partition
[05:51] <Rubin> evw2k, linux doesnt use windows partitions. you shouldnt not create them in windows beforehand. just leave empty space
[05:51] <Max_-> No one knows about RAIDs?
[05:51] <w00t`> ayaw pa rin :(
[05:51] <Jacob> so during the instalation I need to ad a partition and install ubuntu on the new patrition
[05:51] <evw2k> k thanks can i just delete old partition?
[05:51] <badkitty> Shadow147: Yep
[05:51] <Jacob> how do I change what os to boot from
[05:51] <w00t`> fr500, still can't see window machine
[05:51] <Rubin> adrock358, that makes no sense to me. if your wifi doesnt work, debug it. debootstrap cant help any way i can think of
[05:52] <badkitty> Jacob: When you start your pc it will give you a menu and you press up and down keys to select the system
[05:52] <nano__> I'm in need of help, cant get connected to the internet (neither wired nor wireless)
[05:52] <SeSsi0n> i have the partition ready when i go to install i get a bcm43xx_microcode5.fw error then it wont finish loading?
[05:52] <Shadow147> Jacob when grub is installing it will make itself the first bootloader to boot
[05:52] <adrock358> rubin.  ahh.  thank you though.  i don't get how it works.  i'm here for help. i need to get my wireless card working
[05:52] <NoelJB> adrock358: what I see with google, you need to use ndiswrapper with that particular USB network adapter.
[05:52] <adrock358> debug rubin?  how?
[05:52] <Jacob> grub part of linux not really sure what it is
[05:52] <wobblywu> that "99% of your hdd space is in use" notice I get, is there some configuration for it anywhere? as in, any place I can change the percentage it should warn on, and/or disable it altogether?
[05:52] <nickrud> SeSsi0n: that error is probably not related to why it doesn't install. Have you run the disk check option on the start screen?
[05:52] <mosno> does ubuntu use AIGLX by default, or XGL?
[05:53] <NoelJB> adrock358: google is your friend: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=belkin+f5d7050+linux&btnG=Search
[05:53] <Shadow147> Jacob GRUB is ubuntu's bootloader
[05:53] <SeSsi0n> no i havent
[05:53] <adrock358> noeljb.  i heard there;s a much easier and better way
[05:53] <Rubin> adrock358, debootstrap is for installing a new ubuntu install, in a subdirectory of your existing system. its sorta for advanced use really. not something i think you should have been directed into.
[05:53] <Jacob> ok
[05:53] <nickrud> mosno: depends on your video card, nvidia aiglx and ati xgl
[05:53] <Jacob> do you recommend ubuntu over fedora
[05:53] <badkitty> Jacob: Grub is a bootloader. It runs when the system is started and tells the computer how to load the various installed system
[05:53] <NoelJB> adrock358, do you have a reference to this "much easier and better way"?
[05:53] <mosno> nickrud: i'm running the nvidia driver from restricted-manager, so i guess its AIGLX
[05:53] <noelferreira> i have a script that i need o run with sudo. and i want to create a launcher with it. however i don't want that it asks me for sudo's password. what should i do?
[05:53] <SeSsi0n> nickrud: but my buddy had me press f6 then enter a code and it loaded and got stuck at 15 percent
[05:53] <nickrud> Jacob: of course I do, I'm here
[05:53] <Jacob> lol
[05:53] <Shadow147> Jacob which means it will allow you to boot XP/Linux
[05:53] <Jacob> ok
[05:53] <nickrud> SeSsi0n: still run the disk check.
[05:53] <luchador> anyone know why im connected to my wireless network, but im getting like 1 Kb a second
[05:54] <SeSsi0n> ok brb
[05:54] <badkitty> Jacob: YEs I do.. fedora was too big for me to burn all the cd's
[05:54] <Jacob> yeah I know the feeling
[05:54] <Jacob> how is the GUI
[05:54] <Rubin> luchador, some wifi drivers are not all that good.. could be that.
[05:54] <phreck> anyone used freenx?
[05:54] <Jacob> much similar to MAC
[05:54] <Jacob> ?
[05:54] <nickrud> Jacob: it's gnome
[05:54] <badkitty> Jacob: for GRUB?
[05:54] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, WOOT, WOOT!
[05:54] <Jacob> sorry nickrud
[05:54] <Shadow147> Jacob I have 2 hard drives in my computer so I didn't have to mess with partitioning
[05:54] <anderswc> it worked!
[05:54] <partha> hi
[05:54] <Jacob> gui+gnome?
[05:55] <anderswc> and php works
[05:55] <soldats> Jacob, gui is gnome
[05:55] <luchador> Rubin it worked great on 6.06
[05:55] <partha> can i use yahoo messenger in ubuntu7.4
[05:55] <Jacob> ok
[05:55] <luchador> and i just put on 7.10
[05:55] <soldats> with X11
[05:55] <luchador> and now t wont work
[05:55] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: It started I take it. =)  How does php look?
[05:55] <nickrud> Jacob: in some ways, in other ways it's definitely it's own animal (I thought you were comparing fedora and ubuntu's desktops)
[05:55] <Rubin> luchador, further evidence toward a driver bug maybe? :)
[05:55] <bazhang> Jacob: this is not really a chat channel
[05:55] <anderswc> it works!
[05:55] <luchador> so any ideas to fix?
[05:55] <adrock358> hmmm.  this guy genii knew my problem he said he knew of problems with the belkinf5d7050.  he gave me a wifi docs guide from ubuntu.  so many people had this problem that they actually published a guide!  I was in the room troubleshooting for the original guide but he said...."no no no.  That guide is outdated.  there's an updated one in the post.  hold on, let me find it."  many peoplle had this problem.
[05:55] <adrock358> rubin and misslecommander  hmmm.  this guy genii knew my problem he said he knew of problems with the belkinf5d7050.  he gave me a wifi docs guide from ubuntu.  so many people had this problem that they actually published a guide!  I was in the room troubleshooting for the original guide but he said...."no no no.  That guide is outdated.  there's an updated one in the post.  hold on, let me find it."  many peoplle had this prob
[05:55] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, It was just a print statement so it's not too exciting :), but at least it works
[05:56] <Shadow147> Jacob GNOME is a gui and GRUB is a boot loader
[05:56] <Jacob> bazhan: am I not allowed to ask questions on this channel
[05:56] <badkitty> anderswc: haha A good ol "hello world?"
[05:56] <Jacob> awesome
[05:56] <Jacob> got that
[05:56] <RyanPrior> Totem has no problem playing music, it even shows visualizations. I just tried rebooting, removing battery and power cord, and holding power button to drain all the power... still, when I try to play video with Totem or VLC, it shows up stripy without any resolution.
[05:56] <Rubin> adrock358, maybe he gave you the wrong URL by mistake
[05:56] <bazhang> Jacob: not the chit chat kind no
[05:56] <phreck> screw totem
[05:56] <phreck> pile of crap
[05:56] <ZionPsyfer> Nice!  thank you nickrud and badkitty for the help.  Thanks for being patient with me anderswc.  I learned a lot from your problem. =)
[05:57] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, now I have one more question
[05:57] <Rubin> RyanPrior, tried multiple videos?
[05:57] <Jacob> baxhang: I am very new to linx so I am just asking a few questions from expierenced people
[05:57] <Shadow147> bazhang hes asking linux based question
[05:57] <nickrud> ZionPsyfer: keep coming back, persistent help can be hard to find :)
[05:57] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Shoot.
[05:57] <adrock358> rubin.  nope  we troubleshot it together.  regardless, i don't care.  can anyone help me out though.  my wireless works witht he lovecd but after i install it, it doesn't.
[05:57] <badkitty> ZionPsyfer: But of course
[05:57] <Danek_rusak> can anyone help me with a ubunty problem?
[05:57] <anderswc> If I edit a file with gedit, and try to save it to /var/www
[05:57] <RyanPrior> Rubin: I've tried multiple videos, including ones I've had around for months and watched before,.
[05:57] <Rubin> adrock358, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[05:57] <anderswc> It says I don't have permission.
[05:57] <NoelJB> adrock358, which version of that adapter?  I see reference to version 4000
[05:57] <Danek_rusak> I have  an itnernet connection problem
[05:57] <cabrioleur> How to disable scrolling workspaces with mouse wheel?
[05:57] <Shadow147> Danek_ruska how can I help
[05:57] <adrock358> rubin.  did that
[05:57] <anderswc> Do I have to move all the files there from sudo?
[05:58] <Rubin> adrock358, what part is broken?
[05:58] <bazhang> Jacob: there are linux general help channels for that this is for folks with actual support questions using ubuntu; there is also #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:58] <adrock358> noeljb v3
[05:58] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: What says you don't have permission? to write in /var/www ?
[05:58] <anderswc> I tried
[05:58] <luchador> any ideas rubin
[05:58] <Jacob> bazhang: are you a channel moderator?
[05:58] <Danek_rusak> shadow 147: I can't connect to the internet from ubunty
[05:58] <soldats> !network
[05:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:58] <RyanPrior> Rubin: If I run Totem as root, it still has the same problem.
[05:58] <nickrud> cabrioleur: #compiz-fusion has answers to compiz questions (and faster, too)
[05:59] <Shadow147> Danek_ruska what type of internet connection are you using
[05:59] <Rubin> luchador, google for your wifi card chipset and slow, and see if anyone else has seen it..
[05:59] <badkitty> Wow how do I get my hands on that OS ubunty.. that sounds badass
[05:59] <nickrud> Jacob: he pretty much is, yes
[05:59] <Danek_rusak> shadow 147: DSL
[05:59] <Rubin> RyanPrior, only thing i can think of is to mess with X settings
[05:59] <adrock358> isn't there an easier way to do this?  this bug was probably fixed in gutsy.  why does it work with livecd, but no with install?  Has anyone ever heard of this?
[05:59] <adrock358> All I know is that I'm going to either lose my mind or reinstall windows if i don't get this working
[05:59] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: Yep, /var/www/ is owned by root and only root has write permissions.  You can either do a 'sudo -i' or change the permissions recursively.  Obviously doing the sudo -i is recommended for safety
[05:59] <noelferreira> i have a script that i need o run with sudo. and i want to create a launcher with it. however i don't want that it asks me for sudo's password. what should i do?
[06:00] <RyanPrior> Rubin: Like I said, it's only videos that it's having trouble with. It can play music visualizations in the same space. Is that something that might have to do with X?
[06:00] <Rubin> adrock358, theres a chain of about 15 things that all have to work in order for a wifi connection to be working. that guide walks you through each piece so you can troubleshoot it and find where ith break is, and then we can work on fixing it.
[06:00] <anderswc> ZionPsyfer, so what does sudo -i do?
[06:00] <adrock358> rubin.  all these guides refer to things that have already been fixed most likely in gutsy.  i'm using gutsy.  and my problem is that wireless works great only on the live cd, but then after install it doesn't show any networks.
[06:00] <Shadow147> Danek_ruska what type of connection are you using an ethernet card or wireless
[06:00] <RyanPrior> anderswc: sudo -i gives you a root shell, I think.
[06:00] <Jacob> well whats ever thanks badkitty and shadow147 but apparently I am bothering people here on this channel and I have been asked to stop by bazhang I will be at #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:00] <Rubin> adrock358, 'wifi doesnt work' isnt something we can help you with. we need details
[06:00] <Jacob> thanks for everting
[06:00] <bazhang> Jacob: not meaning to give you a hard time--please come on in to #ubuntu-offtopic and discuss some of these issues
[06:00] <badkitty> Jacob: hmm is he a moderator
[06:01] <Jacob> I know thanks for you help and I understand bazhang
[06:01] <Jacob> thanks
[06:01] <Jacob> EX-chat
[06:01] <NoelJB> adrock358: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_3000_(Ralink_rt73_driver)
[06:01] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: short story, it gives you a root shell in that terminal.  you won't have to do 'sudo vi whatever.php' every time.  just the normal vi whatever.php
[06:01] <Danek_rusak> Shadow 147 - an ethernet cord is plugged into my computer, and from there to a DSL modem, then to the telephone line
[06:01] <badkitty> Jacob: See you soon once you have everything installed
[06:01] <Psynaut> Anyone out there that plays wow on the latest cedega?
[06:01] <Shadow147> Danek_ruska ok
[06:01] <RyanPrior> Psynaut: I'm sure there are people. You can play it on Wine, too.
[06:01] <anderswc> sorry, but whats vi ? :/
[06:02] <Shadow147> !eithernet
[06:02] <RyanPrior> anderswc: Vi is an expert text editor.
[06:02] <soldats> editor
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eithernet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <anderswc> ahh!
[06:02] <anderswc> ok
[06:02] <bazhang> Psynaut: wine with wow is very playable
[06:02] <Shadow147> !internet
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <RyanPrior> anderswc: It takes some getting used to if you've never used it before, but it has some really awesome features.
[06:02] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: substitute vi with gedit  ;)
[06:02] <Rubin> andatche, vi is a sort of traditional editor for text files.. dont try to use it without first reading a tutorial you'll get stuck
[06:02] <softtower> Guys, I have the following question: My Ubuntu 7.04 has never reliably switched from WiFi to wired connection and back, generally I always just rebooted (network daemons). I do run "Network Tool" in the menu, which allows me to switch manually, although samba daemons still need to be rebooted, but is there a way to do it automatically?
[06:02] <Psynaut> I am sure there are too :) I just need to talk with some people who do because I am getting laggy rendering in game and need to fix it :)
[06:02] <Danek_rusak> ?
[06:02] <nickrud> oh, anderswc don't play with vi , use gedit or nano
[06:03] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i make my numlock start at boot
[06:03] <Danek_rusak> shadow, what do you mean?
[06:03] <RyanPrior> Why discourage vi use? It's a common and useful tool.
[06:03] <Rubin> softtower, that stuff got fixed a lot with 7.10 you might just try upgrading
[06:03] <badkitty> nickrud: I always liked nano
[06:03] <Psynaut> does wine run wow better than cedega?
[06:03] <ogre> hey guys, I was wondering how I can check to see how much ram I have by cli
[06:03] <soldats> Psynaut, wow with wine
[06:03] <Psynaut> I payed for a month of cedega
[06:03] <RyanPrior> Psynaut: It depends on the version of Wine and Cedega you're talking about. They both work well.
[06:03] <adrock358> from my previous reception in this room.  everyone was surprided that wireless didn't work after install.  Everyone was like "What?  We've never heard of that."  so I'm wondering if this in itself is a bug--the not working after install wireless.  all the guides you guys are showing me i can either not use them, or i have used them.  besides, those are old guide.  don't you think they would have fixed the problem in the newer r
[06:03] <Jay-Oh-En> and how do i make my splash screen go in verbose with the splash screen still there
[06:03] <nickrud> softtower: the 7.04 networkmanager was like that. The one in gutsy works _much_ better
[06:03] <Psynaut> and am not impressed
[06:03] <Rubin> ogre: free -m, or run top
[06:03] <Shadow147> Danek_ruska I beleive you need you run a setup I just can't remember which one
[06:03] <softtower> Rubin, thank you. I have to wait out though. 7.10 won't play nice with my video card (long story). Fucking ATI/AMD...
[06:03] <ZionPsyfer> anderswc: If you're not familiar with it, definitely stick with your prefered editor.  The point being you don't have to prefix all your commands with 'sudo'
[06:03] <Rubin> softtower, ahh.
[06:03] <adrock358> rubin  from my previous reception in this room.  everyone was surprided that wireless didn't work after install.  Everyone was like "What?  We've never heard of that."  so I'm wondering if this in itself is a bug--the not working after install wireless.  all the guides you guys are showing me i can either not use them, or i have used them.  besides, those are old guide.  don't you think they would have fixed the problem in the
[06:03] <adrock358> (06:03:33 AM) RyanPrior: Psynaut: It depends on the version of Wine and Cedega you're talking about. They both work well.
[06:04] <Danek_rusak> Shadow, where might I be able to find it?
[06:04] <Psynaut> I am running Cedega 6.0.5 and everything is laggy :S
[06:04] <nickrud> softtower: what ati card do you have?
[06:04] <Rubin> softtower, you could try grabbing JUST the kernel from 7.10 using pinning.
[06:04] <Ellement> help: just installed ubuntu today and can get ati radeon 9250 card driver. restricted drivers says "no restricted drivers needed" so i cant install it that way. ive read a few tutorials but all of them say do sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx. but i cant install that i get an error
[06:04] <soldats> adrock358, please dont repeat, it creates a small flood
[06:04] <NoelJB> softtower, FYI: watch the language.  This forum is permanently archived.
[06:04] <Shadow147> Danek_ruska well usually ubuntu detects right away
[06:04] <Rubin> Ellement, what is the error?
[06:05] <ogre> Rubin:  thanks alot buddy
[06:05] <Danek_rusak> Shadow: I tried ipconfig or putting auto detection on, that didn't work
[06:05] <adrock358> soldats.  you wouldn't like me to cause a big flood, would you?
[06:05] <Rubin> adrock358, its obviously a bug. we would all love if your wifi worked out of the box. its complicated though.
[06:05] <Shadow147> Danek_ruska go here https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/internet/C/connect.html
[06:05] <softtower> nickrud: I have ATI FireGL v5200 on Thinkpad T60p
[06:05] <nickrud> the only thing more complicated than wireless is sound
[06:06] <softtower> NoelJB, thanks for advice.
[06:06] <misslecommander> adrock359: sorry took so long
[06:06] <Rubin> adrock358, but like. is the device there? can you see access points? are you connecting but not getting an IP? etc etc. where is it broken exactly?
[06:06] <badkitty> nickrud: isn't that the truth
[06:06] <soldats> adrock358, you posted a statement and the same one directed to someone, just remember to not repeat the same thing
[06:06] <nickrud> badkitty: remember when a layman could understand alsa?
[06:06] <ampex> for all of those ATI'ers out there
[06:06] <misslecommander> here is my noob leading the blind tutorial on wireless networks
[06:06] <ampex> I've found this very helpful
[06:06] <ampex> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[06:06] <softtower> Rubin, kernel is the most problematic piece of 7.10 - it has a new memory allocator that does not work with ATI proprietary drivers for my card.
[06:06] <adrock358> rubin.  it does work!  just not in real os.  look thanks guys.  I'm going to split.  maybe I'll see you later on.  Thank you again for all your help
[06:07] <Rubin> softtower, ahh. Might be kinda stuck then
[06:07] <adrock358> soldats.  thanks but do you really think that i meant to do that?  i was copying a past post with no name ID
[06:07] <badkitty> nickrud: No not at all..Im a noob, but but so much where I haven't had to deal with both issues for a while
[06:07] <Danek_rusak> Shadow: thanks, but it dosn't detect my modem, or can't work with it (I tried that before)
[06:07] <bazhang> thanks ampex!
[06:07] <Ellement> Rubin: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: xorg-driver-fglrx Depends: libstdc++5 (>=1:3.3.4-1) but is not installable. E: Broken packages
[06:07] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i make my numlock start at boot
[06:07] <nickrud> softtower: the latest ati driver provides suspend with slub, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide will help you install it
[06:07] <misslecommander> pastebin said i was spamming
[06:07] <softtower> Rubin, I don't complain. My current setup is better than anything else I've used before.
[06:08] <misslecommander> lol
[06:08] <phreck> Anyeone familiar with freeNX?!
[06:08] <Rubin> softtower, i was in the same boat with my thinkpad.. 7.10 fixed it all up for me though.
[06:08] <nickrud> ampex: heh, I see you posted it already :0
[06:08] <Rubin> softtower, wonder if the hardy kernel would work?
[06:08] <softtower> well... ThinkPads are nice machines to run Linux on.
[06:08] <misslecommander> adrock358: i will have to give you cut-down version
[06:09] <nickrud> softtower: it's soooo nice to just close the lid again
[06:09] <softtower> nickrud, everything works fine on my thinkpad. every possible feature: standby/hibernate/lid, etc
[06:09] <adrock358> i feel like i need to smoke 5 cigarettes after this
[06:10] <Rubin> softtower, mine had a lot of issues, but most are solved now. just some intel 965 3d problems (endgame screensaver locks the whole thing up)
[06:10] <wenbo> how can i make a ubuntu live cd in usb?
[06:10] <Shadow147> Danek_rusak you may have to change your modem to another pci port it could have goe bad
[06:10] <misslecommander> o well, pastebin keeps telling me i am a spammer, i onyl wrote a few pastebins, and i am a psammer lol
[06:10] <softtower> When I was buying it I specifically looked for Linux-compatible hardware. It's the video card that gives me problems with 7.10 but those problems are temporary. ATI is releasing drivers every couple of months, so I'm ok. Thanks.
[06:10] <compy> does anyone know the forum url where it tells you how to install firefox 32 bit version on 64 bit system?
[06:10] <nintendonerd282> hey how do you get a moving backround on ubuntu
[06:10] <nintendonerd282> like
[06:10] <Ellement> Rubin: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: xorg-driver-fglrx Depends: libstdc++5 (>=1:3.3.4-1) but is not installable. E: Broken packages
[06:10] <nickrud> softtower: with feisty mine did also, but I fussed with compiling a custom kernel so I could suspend (I hadn't done that in years). It's nice to use the standard ubuntu one again
[06:10] <Shadow147> Danek_rusak well your ethernet card
[06:10] <Rubin> misslecommander, try pastebin.ca
[06:10] <adrock358> is there anyway to get this working while booted on my live cd.  that would be perfect.  otherwise i'm going to have to reboot everytime i want to use th internet
[06:10] <badkitty> adrock358: lol... yeah thats odd you are having wireless issues with gutsy.. I know edgy and dapper had some serious support issues
[06:10] <wenbo> i want to make a mini ubuntu live cd ,how can i do ?
[06:10] <Danek_rusak> Shadow: internet works just fine on my Windows XP
[06:10] <Rubin> Ellement, hmm. are you doing anything weird with package sources?
[06:10] <brownie17> hi guys, trying to convert an avi to ipod video format. got the following error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52368/
[06:10] <misslecommander> Rbuin: i already dumped it, gone, poof, he is on his own
[06:10] <nintendonerd282> how do you get a moving backround with ubuntu. like if i wanted a matrix picture with the moving numbers...
[06:11] <compy> does anyone know the forum url where it tells you how to install firefox 32 bit version on 64 bit system?
[06:11] <icesword> huh
[06:11] <nintendonerd282> ok like if i wanted a backround with a picture that moves. where would i get that for ubuntu
[06:11] <Shadow147> Danek_rusak hmm
[06:11] <softtower> compy, does 64-bit Linux run 32-bit binaries?
[06:11] <badkitty> nintendonerd282: did you try a google search
[06:11] <soldats> nintendonerd282, as in .gif
[06:11] <nintendonerd282> well not like gif
[06:11] <Rubin> nintendonerd282, maybe by putting a screensaver into the 'root' window?
[06:12] <adrock358> badkitty.  i'm dying.  i need to get my wireless working!  I didn't even go to work today!  of course i don't really need to switch from windows, but i like ubuntu better,
[06:12] <nintendonerd282> i have wireless working on my ubuntu
[06:12] <Ellement> Rubin: am complete ubuntu newbie so i have no idea.
[06:12] <celske> how do i delete all files inside a folder? (terminal cmd)
[06:12] <Rubin> adrock358, you dont really want to fix it. you just want to be frustrated.
[06:12] <misslecommander> from my own experience, some of the stuff i didnt need to do, using ndiswrapper was alot of time wasted, when the wifi card already had the correct driver, i just needed to configure it
[06:12] <compy> softtower, umm no clue... i haev had flash working before but i cant find the instructions anymore after my reinstall
[06:12] <adrock358> rubin.  no, i just want someone to fic it for me.
[06:12] <badkitty> adrock358: yeah I understand your pain... I felt that in dapper... i actually bought a new wireless card to ease my suffering
[06:12] <Rubin> celske, rm folder/*
[06:12] <Danek_rusak> Shadow: any ideas?
[06:12] <nintendonerd282> 7.10 detected my wireless instantly
[06:12] <Rubin> adrock358, noone will. now what?
[06:12] <nintendonerd282> i have a belkin wireless reciever
[06:12] <ogre> celske:  by cli or with a gui?
[06:13] <misslecommander> ohter issues resolved had been enabling all the Software Sources, that was major
[06:13] <celske> cli
[06:13] <nickrud> compy: http://sudan.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=202537
[06:13] <celske> and nvm i done it
[06:13] <NoelJB> nintendonerd282, same model as adrock358?
[06:13] <nintendonerd282> i dont knwo
[06:13] <misslecommander> i ahd that broke packages the other day, took me a few hours, finally fixed it
[06:13] <compy> nickrud, thanks
[06:13] <nintendonerd282> i have a belking My Essential G usb stick thing
[06:13] <nintendonerd282> belin*
[06:13] <ogre> celske:  rubin got it already i see
[06:13] <nintendonerd282> belkin*
[06:13] <adrock358> rubin.  or i want an easy fix.  i don't know how to use source code man.  i'm going to be in these forums forever if i use one of these guides.  it'll take forever.
[06:14] <NoelJB> nintendonerd282, he's using F5D7050 v3
[06:14] <nintendonerd282> oh
[06:14] <nintendonerd282> nvm then
[06:14] <misslecommander> adrock358: i missed alot of what they had helped you with
[06:14] <softtower> compy, I added you to private chat, do you see me?
[06:14] <badkitty> adrock358: Did you ever try the ol' ndiswrapper deal?
[06:14] <compy> softtower, no i dont
[06:14] <Rubin> Ellement, try this guide: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[06:14] <adrock358> yeah i installed it
[06:14] <misslecommander> adrock358: type "/join #adrock358" and i will meet you there
[06:14] <danonura> is there any difference between install via synaptic or apt-get method?
[06:15] <ogre> how come I never use any of my dang swap?
[06:15] <Rubin> adrock358, you should buy commercial support from someone.
[06:15] <softtower> compy, Well, you already got a decent response. Frankly I did not know you could run 32-bit binaries on 64-bit system. Windows does it, but Debian AFAIK did not...
[06:15] <nintendonerd282> yeah im using a belkin my essentials wireless G usb adapter ME1001-USB i dont kwno what ur using
[06:15] <Extravert> anyone know what package to get for fourcc / quicktime?
[06:15] <soldats> !register | compy softtower
[06:15] <ubotu> compy softtower: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[06:15] <nickrud> danonura: for all practical purposes, none
[06:15] <adrock358> rubin.  you are right!  too cheap though (broke).
[06:15] <compy> softtower, i foudn the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=show&redirect=FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:15] <ogre> Extravert:  just use vlc player
[06:15] <Rubin> adrock358, you are a walking rock AND hard place :)
[06:15] <softtower> ubotu, I am registered user. Do you mind if I try to send you a private msg?
[06:15] <Extravert> ogre: I need the encoder
[06:15] <nintendonerd282> oh i downloaded an avi movie the other day, and it wont play in totem
[06:15] <compy> oh i need to reg
[06:15] <Rubin> softtower, ubotu is a computer
[06:15] <nintendonerd282> i installed the missing coecs
[06:15] <nickrud> softtower: ubotu is a bot
[06:15] <nintendonerd282> codecs
[06:15] <ogre> softtower:  ubotu is a bot
[06:16] <adrock358> rubin.  i know bro.  story of my life.  thank you very much for the help though sir.
[06:16] <Danek_rusak> ALL: my internet works fine on Windows XP, but doesn't work on Ubuntu at all; what's the problem?
[06:16] <ogre> nickrud:  jinx
[06:16] <ampex> softtower: you just need to apt-get install ia32-libs
[06:16] <misslecommander> adrock358: type /join #adrock358 i am in there
[06:16] <badkitty> nickrud: Besides having control of what exactly you are dling and being able to visually see it
[06:16]  * nickrud laughs, calling a bot a computer ;p
[06:16] <danonura> nickrud:thanks
[06:16] <softtower> this is creepy... that bot sent me several private messages just now.
[06:16] <Rubin> Danek_rusak, could be any number of things..
[06:16] <adrock358>  /join #adrock358
[06:16] <ogre> lol
[06:16] <nintendonerd282> Why wont Totem play Avi formatted movies... even with the codec pack installed.
[06:16] <EADG_> brownie17: in a terminal type ffmpeg -formats |less to see if you have mp4 support.
[06:16] <Danek_rusak> like what?
[06:16] <nickrud> softtower: someone probably did   /msg tell softtower <something> :)
[06:17] <Rubin> Danek_rusak, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25557
[06:17] <badkitty> danonura: Try both methods and see what you like about each...  But synaptic comes real close
[06:17] <nintendonerd282> vlc wont play it eitehr
[06:17] <nintendonerd282> neither will mplayer
[06:17] <softtower> can anyone send me a private msg please? I am registered but never used this feature... Just curious. thank you.
[06:17] <brownie17> EADG_, it looks as if i don't, however about 2 months ago i tried to do this EXACTLY the same and it worked fine
[06:17] <soldats> nintendonerd282, totem has been known to have minor problems, a suggestion may be to use another player eventhough totem only plays avi for me
[06:17] <brownie17> EADG, haven't changed my system since then
[06:17] <nintendonerd282> oh
[06:17] <nintendonerd282> ok
[06:18] <soldats> maybe gxine
[06:18] <nintendonerd282> well vlc...wont play any videos for me
[06:18] <badkitty> nickrud: Yah I do too
[06:18] <nintendonerd282> just audio
[06:18] <Danek_rusak> thanks, i'll try that
[06:18] <Danek_rusak> cya all
[06:18] <Rubin> nintendonerd282, click applications, add/remove (at the bottom)
[06:18] <nintendonerd282> ok
[06:18] <Rubin> nintendonerd282, at upper right, choose 'all available'
[06:18] <misslecommander> i dont know
[06:18] <misslecommander> why cant he join ?
[06:18] <EADG_> brownie17: strange... don't know what to tell you.
[06:18] <badkitty> nickrud: But newer folks can ease into things with synaptic since it is similar to say.. add/remove programs
[06:18] <danonura> i started learning about partitioning so i could install ubuntu 7.10. i accidentally formated a drive i didn't want formatted. but luckily linux has many recovery progs. i used testdisk to recover and it worked.
[06:18] <xTheGoat121x> Is there a way to set it so that Ubuntu picks preferred wireless networks but can still roam?
[06:19] <mosno> can avant window navigator completely replace gnome-panel, or will my gnome session suffer?
[06:19] <Rubin> nintendonerd282, then find a package called restricted drivers manager and ubuntu restricted extras
[06:19] <EADG_> brownie17: Give Convertit a try, it's a gui frontend for converting, and it has a ipod option.
[06:19] <nintendonerd282> Rubin, what next
[06:19] <danonura> linux is way better than windows
[06:19] <nintendonerd282> oh never mind
[06:19] <nintendonerd282> lol
[06:19] <ogre> I like synaptic  and aptitude is "da bomb" too
[06:19] <soldats> misslecommander, make the room ##ado***
[06:19] <brownie17> EADG_, thanks
[06:19] <nickrud> badkitty: yes. I usually suggest synaptic and a few commands (like ctl-f) . And synaptic does some things aptitude doesn't, like show packages by origin easily
[06:19] <nano__> I need of help, I cant get connected to the internet (neither wired nor wireless).....
[06:20] <Rubin> nano_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25557
[06:20] <Rubin> nano__ rather.
[06:20] <jordoex> anyone know how to use the upgrade manager to upgrade to hardy now?
[06:20] <Rubin> jordoex, not upgrade manager.. but i can tell you how to do it on the commandline
[06:21] <jordoex> meh, i know how to do that
[06:21] <xTheGoat121x> jordoex, you cannot upgrade to hardy now via upgrade manager
[06:21] <RyanPrior> jordoex: If you don't know how to upgrade to Hardy, you probably shouldn't be upgrading to Hardy.
[06:21] <badkitty> Hardy is still in development though eh
[06:21] <nintendonerd282> which audio player will sync with an ipod or a creative mp3 player
[06:21] <jordoex> using the cli upgrade manager or apt-get dist-uprade?
[06:21] <RyanPrior> nintendonerd282: Rhythmbox, Banshee, Amarok, Exaile
[06:21] <nickrud> jordoex: unless you plan on fixing a moving target, you might want to wait till mid feb , after feature freeze
[06:21] <nano__> Rubin: Mind, I am getting a signal, its just that when trying to load any page it times out
[06:21] <nintendonerd282> rythmbox supports ipod? their site said they didnt
[06:21] <nintendonerd282> w/e
[06:21] <nintendonerd282> lol
[06:21] <nintendonerd282> ok
[06:22] <Rubin> nano_, do you have an IP address?
[06:22] <nintendonerd282> do i haev to install drivers for a Creative MP3 player on ilnux?
[06:22] <jordoex> arg, i really want projectM now and the compiled version won't work on amarok for some reason
[06:22] <soldats> rythmbox supports ipods
[06:22] <softtower> nintendonerd282, my ipod touch does not show up in Rhythmbox.
[06:22] <nintendonerd282> thanks
[06:22] <nintendonerd282> oh
[06:22] <nintendonerd282> well
[06:22] <nintendonerd282> my ipod is an ipod shuffle XD
[06:22] <nintendonerd282> i have a creative zen vision: M
[06:22] <softtower> My stupid Motorola phone does, though :-)
[06:22] <nintendonerd282> that i want to sync
[06:22] <nano__> Rubin: Yes
[06:22] <nickrud> jordoex: keep a gutsy partition, and install hardy on another. That way when things that you must have break, you can still get work done
[06:22] <NoelJB> nintendonerd282, rythmebox, but I ... as softtower is discovering, Apple has made changes to lock out 3rd parties.
[06:23] <Rubin> nano_, are you using a router to connect to the internet?
[06:23] <nintendonerd282> do i have to install the creative software with wine?
[06:23] <nano__> Rubin: Yes
[06:23] <soldats> nintendonerd282, you need to use the ipod plugin in rythmbox, also using a creative should show up as well via usb
[06:23] <Rubin> nano_, is your ip address 192.168.*something*?
[06:23] <EADG_> softtower: there is a nice tutorial on ubuntu-forums to get the Touch up and running with gtkpod.
[06:23] <nintendonerd282> ok
[06:23] <jordoex> meh, I'll wait, i did wait for 8 months for kde4
[06:23] <nintendonerd282> thanhks
[06:23] <badkitty> nickrud: Or use virtualbox and test it out so you dont have to deal with partitioning
[06:23] <RyanPrior> jordoex: You're probably better trying to get ProjectM to compile from source than upgrading to Hardy. I'm on Hardy now and it's been pretty rough.
[06:23] <nano__> Rubin: Yep
[06:23] <Rubin> nano_, whats the something?
[06:23] <softtower> EADG_, thank you but I hate iPods. :-) I bought it just for fun, my gf is using it now.
[06:23] <nickrud> badkitty: better advice, true
[06:24] <nano__> hmm, 1.0
[06:24]  * nickrud keeps a couple spare partitions Just In Case
[06:24] <jordoex> RyanPrior: thanks, I'll wait, i did compile and for some reason it doesn't work
[06:24] <wobblywu> that "99% of your hdd space is in use" notice I get, is there some configuration for it anywhere? as in, any place I can change the percentage it should warn on, and/or disable it altogether?
[06:24] <nintendonerd282> well... do mp3 players show up in the file tree? i want to like add music to certain folders
[06:24] <Rubin> nano_, erm... your ip address is <IP_ADDRESS>?
[06:24]  * soldats keeps a few extra hdds just in case
[06:24] <nano__> Rubin: let me confirm
[06:24] <badkitty> nickrud: haha do you really? They must be secondaries... can only have 3 logical right?
[06:25] <RyanPrior> jordoex: At the same time, if you would like to experience a full-immersion tutorial in Ubuntu bug reporting, go ahead and upgrade away. :-D
[06:25] <nickrud> badkitty: as far as linux is concerned, a logical is identical to a primary for All Practical Purposes ;)
[06:25] <Psynaut> Does anyone know how to fix laggy rendering issues and low fps in Wow while using cedega 6.0.5???
[06:26] <badkitty> nickrud: Right... yet another reason to use it over m$
[06:26] <RyanPrior> Psynaut: Make sure your graphics card is supported right.
[06:26] <RyanPrior> Psynaut: What do you get on glxgears?
[06:26] <nickrud> Psynaut: you should probably find a cedega channel for that help
[06:26] <Ellement> rubin: restricted-manager: depends: synaptic but it is not installable. preDepends python-notify
[06:26] <Rubin> PSyKo, cedega is a closed source commercial application. we dont really want to support it...
[06:26] <Psynaut> sec ryan gonna go check again
[06:26] <nintendonerd282> Second life wont install on my computer can anyone help me
[06:27] <xTheGoat121x> ... there's a linux version of 2nd life?
[06:27] <nintendonerd282> i clicked the ... whats it called lol.. shell script or w/e
[06:27] <nintendonerd282> yeah
[06:27] <nintendonerd282> its alpha though
[06:27] <Psynaut> Ryan I'm averaging around 8000 FPS
[06:27] <phreck> are you running compiz
[06:27] <Rubin> Ellement, make sure you have all the repositories enabled.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[06:27] <Odd-rationale> xTheGoat121x: Yes. You can get it on getdeb.net
[06:27] <nano__> Rubin:1.2
[06:27] <RyanPrior> Psynaut: Sounds like your graphics card is working, then. I don't know a thing about configuring Cedega, though.
[06:27] <badkitty> Psynaut: Fast... 712??
[06:28] <nickrud> what's that glxgears option, --glxgearsisnotabenchmark ?
[06:28] <Rubin> nano_, ahh ok better. open a terminal, and type: ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:28] <Psynaut> 256 7800GT OC
[06:28] <Rubin> nano_, should get replies back..
[06:28] <vegpuff> hi i have a 24" screen. can i rotate 90 degrees and change the resolution acordingly?
[06:28] <phreck> Psynaut, : Are you runing Compiz
[06:28] <nintendonerd282> Rubin, I installed those restricted packs you told me to get
[06:28] <nintendonerd282> what else do i do
[06:28] <nintendonerd282> is that it?
[06:28] <Psynaut> I don't believe so Phreck
[06:28] <nano__> Rubin: I am
[06:28] <Psynaut> how can I check?
[06:28] <Rubin> nintendonerd282, im not postive but i think that has what you need
[06:28] <phreck> are you on a default install of 7.10?
[06:28] <nintendonerd282> Thanks rubin
[06:28] <Psynaut> yeah default desktop
[06:28] <Odd-rationale> vegpuff: Yes.
[06:28] <Rubin> nano_, ok now try to ping <IP_ADDRESS> (google)
[06:29] <badkitty> vegpuff: Yes but I dont know how to
[06:29] <nano__> Rubin: how do i stop this?
[06:29] <Rubin> nano__ control-c
[06:29] <vegpuff> Odd-rationale, how do i make my resolution something like 1200x1920 ?
[06:29] <nano__> Ok
[06:29] <phreck> meh
[06:29] <phreck> donno.
[06:29] <nano__> I am
[06:29] <Rubin> vegpuff, manly way is to modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand using a text editor ;)
[06:29] <nano__> Rubin: Getting replies
[06:30] <Rubin> nano__: hmm. ok now try typing this: host google.com
[06:30] <vegpuff> Rubin, does that work? :)
[06:30] <nickrud> Psynaut: system->prefs->appearance , last tab. If anything but none is checked, you're running compiz
[06:30] <Odd-rationale> vegpuff: use xrandr. I'll try to get you some links...
[06:30] <Rubin> does it resolve?
[06:30] <vegpuff> Odd-rationale, will try that :)
[06:30] <chr11> anyone know how to make totem play .avi files? I thought I had the codecs to do this... apparently I don't... which package do I need?
[06:30] <phreck> nickrud, if he is on a default install with an NVIDIA gpu, he is running it
[06:30] <Rubin> vegpuff, yes. but also if you mess up can make your system text-mode only :) depends on your level of hackerness
[06:30] <Psynaut> I am on normal
[06:30] <nickrud> phreck: yup, but that's a positive check, not an assumption
[06:30] <jordoex> RyanPrior: nah, i don't want to go back to using windows for 2 months because of a couple annoying bugs in ubuntu
[06:30] <Psynaut> normal nickrud
[06:31] <badkitty> chr11: Look at medibuntu
[06:31] <nano__> Rubin: warning message parser reports malformed message packet
[06:31] <nano__> Rubin: timed out
[06:31] <Rubin> nano_, whoa
[06:31] <chr11> ty
[06:31] <soldats> chr11, open synaptic and search for avi codecs
[06:31] <Rubin> nano__: one sec
[06:31] <nano__> Rubin: Ok
[06:31] <ZionPsyfer> Psynaut: have you done the tweaks on the Config.wtf file?
[06:31] <nickrud> Psynaut: then check none, and try your game again. compiz can interfere with gl games
[06:31] <phreck> not can
[06:31] <phreck> does.
[06:31] <Rubin> nano__: type: cat /etc/resolv.conf and paste the contents to pastebin.ca for me
[06:32] <narothepharoh> how do i unrar a file?
[06:32] <nickrud> phreck: true again, but I usually hedge my statements <-- again :)
[06:32] <Psynaut> Zionpsyfer: no I have not found any tweaks for the config.wtf
[06:32] <Rubin> narothepharoh, unrar :)
[06:32] <Psynaut> nickrud: I will try that right now
[06:32] <marx2k_> Does anyone know how to uninstall xampp
[06:32] <marx2k_> ?
[06:32] <chr11> already have libdevcss2 and w32codecs installed... that's all that pops up in synaptic when I search for medibuntu... do I need a different repository?
[06:32] <badkitty> narothepharoh:  you have to install unrar though
[06:32] <Rubin> marx2k, cant you use the package manager to do it?
[06:33] <FluxD> nickrud, u there ?
[06:33] <Odd-rationale> vegpuff: Are you registered, and can I pm you?
[06:33] <marx2k_> Hm I installed it from a downloaded deb
[06:33] <ZionPsyfer> Psynaut: edit it and put this line in:  SET gxApi "opengl"
[06:33] <badkitty> chr11: yep google medibuntu
[06:33] <nickrud> FluxD: hanging in for a few more minutes
[06:33] <KyMc1985> Just downloaded the ISO of 7.10, won't get past the ISOLINUX 3.36, it comes up "Boot Failed: Press a key to retry"
[06:33] <vegpuff> yeah Odd-rationale sure!
[06:33] <badkitty> hi marx2k
[06:33] <Rubin> marx2k_, by cmdline, dpkg -r packagename
[06:33] <nintendonerd282> Ok so like im downloading a tar file. where do i extract it to get it into my file system
[06:33] <ghosTM55> badkitty: i'm back !
[06:33] <marx2k_> can I use dpkg on a deb to remove what it installed?
[06:33] <marx2k_> Ooh! thank RUbin, hi badkitty :)
[06:33] <badkitty> hey ghost
[06:33] <Rubin> nintendonerd282, wherever you want to put it...
[06:34] <ghosTM55> badkitty: what r u talking about ?
[06:34] <FluxD> nickrud, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm I did that as you said before to change login manager. As root it worked but now as a sudo user I dont get anything
[06:34] <ZionPsyfer> Psynaut: That'll force opengl versus directx.
[06:34] <CruCio> I need
[06:34] <badkitty> ghosTM55: Just seeing if I can help folks and learn new things in the process
[06:34] <misslecommander> Rubin: how do you all do it, you can help 3 people at once ?
[06:34] <CruCio> How do i install Java on my ubuntu ?
[06:34] <nano__> Rubin: not on the pc with linux but it just says do not edit, then nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:34] <Psynaut> Zionpsyfer: alright gonna do that right now. does it matter where in the config file I put that line?
[06:34] <soldats> misslecommander, fast eyes
[06:34] <Rubin> misslecommander, takes practice :)
[06:34] <FluxD> !java | CruCio
[06:34] <ubotu> CruCio: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[06:34] <nickrud> FluxD: strange, I'd expect there to be no difference
[06:35] <FluxD> nickrud, it showed me a blue screen before but nothing now
[06:35] <ghosTM55> badkitty: ;-) , i'm installing Windows XP on my Virtual box
[06:35] <Rubin> nano__: what kind of router is it? seems like its sending bad dns replies to you
[06:35] <misslecommander> <- slow eyes, out of practice
[06:35] <nano__> umm
[06:35] <ZionPsyfer> Psynaut: Nope, I usually just put it at the end.
[06:35] <badkitty> ghosTM55: Good one!
[06:35] <marx2k_> wtf...
[06:35] <nano__> Rubin: Good question
[06:35] <marx2k_> sudo dpkg -r xampp-linux-1.6.5a.tar.gz
[06:35] <marx2k_> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove xampp-linux-1.6.5a.tar.gz which isn't installed.
[06:35] <FluxD> nickrud, any other way to change it ?
[06:35] <Psynaut> ZionPsyfer: rgr thanks gonna test it out
[06:35] <nickrud> FluxD: try sudo -i , then run it again (without sudo, you're root) . type exit to return to normal command line
[06:35] <ZionPsyfer> Here's a page with more tweaks to play with:  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_and_update_World_Of_Warcraft_with_wine
[06:35] <marx2k_> it;s installed... ugh
[06:35] <Viking667> I'm getting a strange reaction when I try to import a key using gpg as specified in the source-o-matic list. One of the lines is:  No ultimately trusted keys found
[06:36] <Rubin> nano__, you could override resolv.conf with some dns servers that are known to work. (and tell dhcpclient NOT to overwrite it next lease!)
[06:36] <ghosTM55> badkitty: i found i have no Windows on my box , so i installed one , for special use some day , lol
[06:36] <Psynaut> Zionpsyfer: just said WOW wasn't able to start up 3D Acceleration
[06:36] <soldats> marx2k_, try it with apt-get
[06:36] <FluxD> nickrud, sudo -i dpkg-reconfigure gdm ?
[06:36] <marx2k_> how do you run apt-get on a deb file?
[06:36] <KyMc1985> oops: cd was dirty :P
[06:36] <badkitty> ghosTM55: yeah thats what i do
[06:36] <CruCio> thanks doe the link guys but i have tried everything but unfortunatly
[06:36] <nickrud> Viking667: that means you don't have a key that you have either marked as ultimately trusted, or trusted because it's in your web of trust. Don't worry about it
[06:36] <CruCio>  i still am not unable to install java
[06:36] <CruCio> please help
[06:37] <soldats> marx2k_, oh whoops i thought you were trying to remove it
[06:37] <nano__> Rubin: Ok, sounds good
[06:37] <badkitty> marx2k I dont think thats what youre trying to do though
[06:37] <nickrud> FluxD: sudo -i <enter> (you'll see a root prompt) then do the dpkg-reconfigurer
[06:37] <Rubin> nano__, http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.networking/2005-09/0088.html seems to be the same issue as you.
[06:37] <peaceful> use dpkg -i instead of apt-get @ marx2k_
[06:37] <ZionPsyfer> Psynaut: K, they say that happens sometimes though I've never seen it.  Add this to the end of Config.wtf to disable the opening movies:   SET movie "0"
[06:37] <ghosTM55> CruCio: what up ? unable to install JAVA environment?
[06:37] <marx2k_> Im trying to purge my system of everything the xampp deb package installed (its a local deb package, not in the repos)
[06:37] <FluxD> nickrud, I am typing this thru putty
[06:37] <Rubin> marx2k_ use --purge when you remove it to kill all its config files etc
[06:37] <nickrud> marx2k: if you installed it as a deb,  sudo apt-get remove xammp should work
[06:38] <marx2k_> Rubin, it's telling me it isn't installed in the first place
[06:38] <CruCio> nope
[06:38] <CruCio>  i can't
[06:38] <Rubin> marx2k_ maybe its not under the name you think it is, or you alreday removed it
[06:38] <marx2k_> nickrud: Nope.
[06:38] <Viking667> hm. I'm still not able to get synaptic to not complain, about unauthenticated packages when I select universe/multiverse packages
[06:38] <CruCio> i have used terminal
[06:38] <CruCio> all the help
[06:38] <CruCio>  i could google
[06:38] <Psynaut> Zionpsyfer: Getting the same error.
[06:38] <CruCio> but still
[06:38] <badkitty> ghosTM55: Besides Ubuntu, you running any other OS?
[06:38] <CruCio> doesn't work
[06:38] <astro76> marx2k_: in synaptic if you click the origin tab, anything that is installed not in a current repo, will be listed under Local
[06:38] <nickrud> FluxD: never used putty into a ubuntu box, so if something strange is going on ...
[06:38] <marx2k_> Rubin: Well, Im in the same directory as the deb file and I know I didnt remove it since the directory and all the files are still there
[06:38] <FluxD> nickrud, ok I will check thru vnc
[06:38] <Rubin> marx2k, where ?
[06:39] <ghosTM55> badkitty: i used fedora before
[06:39] <marx2k_> Rubin: it installs to /opt/lampp
[06:39] <Rubin> marx2k_: find one of the files it installed, and type: dpkg -S /opt/lampp/filename
[06:39] <CruCio> c'mon guys
[06:39] <FluxD> nickrud, ty it changed
[06:39] <CruCio> i lil help
[06:39] <Rubin> it'll tell you what package is responsible
[06:39] <nintendonerd282> anyone play frets on fire?
[06:39] <badkitty> marx2k You still tweaking with that webserver lol
[06:39] <honda> how do i list processes running in the terminal
[06:39] <KyMc1985> got a beautiful red crash error just now (while waiting for the CD to load): I/O error  Error reading boot CD.  (top corner shows: 2042009F)
[06:39] <Viking667> honda: jobs
[06:39] <astro76> CruCio: what did you try?
[06:39] <honda> aww
[06:40] <niuq> !pastebin
[06:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:40] <nano__> Rubin: So just use this as a guide then?
[06:40] <ghosTM55> badkitty: i'm about to join the translate team of ubuntu after i graduate this year
[06:40] <badkitty> nintendonerd282: I would except I have a wireless keyboard and the lag screws everything up
[06:40] <Rubin> marx2k_, also, let this be a lesson to you about manhandling the package management system.
[06:40] <peaceful> ps ax @ honda
[06:40] <nintendonerd282> lol
[06:40] <nintendonerd282> ok
[06:40] <nintendonerd282> well
[06:40] <astro76> !enter | nintendonerd282
[06:40] <ubotu> nintendonerd282: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:40] <CruCio> i tried apt-get install sun-java6-jre and alot of things
[06:40] <Rubin> nano__ its just an interesting thing i found in google. not sure the cause.
[06:40] <nintendonerd282> where do you download the bonus songs too
[06:40] <marx2k_> Rubin: heh I didnt manhandle. I just did dpkg -i <packagename>.deb
[06:40] <nickrud> KyMc1985: probably a bad burn, check the disk md5 (see next link) to make sure the download is good, then burn again at a very low speed
[06:40] <nintendonerd282> sorry
[06:40] <CruCio>  i even tried with directory
[06:40] <astro76> CruCio: did you put sudo before apt-get?
[06:40] <nickrud> !md5 | KyMc1985
[06:40] <CruCio> but still
[06:40] <ubotu> KyMc1985: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:40] <CruCio> yes
[06:40] <CruCio>  i did
[06:40] <badkitty> ghosTM55: That would be aweome, you have great english and that would help out so much for translating into (imguessing mandarin?)
[06:40] <CruCio> it says
[06:40] <Rubin> marx2k_, you obtained a .deb from an ominus source and installed it. you took your life in your own hands ;)
[06:40] <KyMc1985> Did so, everything was a go.
[06:40] <astro76> CruCio: also if you want it to work in your browser, install sun-java6-plugin
[06:40] <nano__> Rubin: Ok
[06:41] <CruCio> E: Broken pakages
[06:41] <marx2k_> Rubin: I only followed the instructions in ubuntuforums :)
[06:41] <ZionPsyfer> Psynaut:  fglrxinfo | grep direct shows Yes, correct?
[06:41] <nickrud> KyMc1985: then run the check cd option on the startup screen
[06:41] <Rubin> marx2k_, hehehe
[06:41] <astro76> !enter | CruCio
[06:41] <ubotu> CruCio: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:41] <Patrickva> I heard your mom looks like a gremlin.
[06:41] <Psynaut> Zionpsyfer: checking
[06:41] <Viking667> honda: by the way, "ps " also works.
[06:41] <nano__> how do i override resolv.conf?
[06:41] <astro76> CruCio: try sudo apt-get install -f
[06:41] <badkitty> KyMc1985: I have seen certain brands of CD's have problems burning the image correctly too along with burning too fast
[06:41] <Rubin> marx2k, generally, if a .deb is NOT in the package manager (apt-get or synaptec) there is a reason.
[06:41] <bazhang> Patrickva: you have a support question?
[06:42] <Psynaut> Zionpsyfer: currently not installed
[06:42] <Patrickva> I do, actually, bazhang
[06:42] <Patrickva> Do you?
[06:42]  * Viking667 departs
[06:42] <nano__> Rubin: how do i override resolv.conf?
[06:42] <CruCio> what would that do ?
[06:42] <bazhang> ask away Patrickva
[06:42] <misslecommander> if i add Repositories from CDROM, will it still require i have the Ubuntu CDROm in the tray when installing ?
[06:42] <Rubin> nano__ look in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[06:42] <astro76> CruCio: repair broken packages
[06:42] <CruCio> :|
[06:42] <ZionPsyfer> Ahhh, so you're not running with 3d acceleration.
[06:42] <CruCio> are ya sure ?
[06:42] <nintendonerd282> ok the frets on fire shell script wont open up for me. i double click and hit run. and nothign happens, i tried to run it in the terminal but the terminal just closed what am i doing wrong?
[06:42] <ZionPsyfer> Psynaut:  Ati or Geforce card?
[06:43] <astro76> CruCio: indeed
[06:43] <ghosTM55> badkitty: ah , by the way , i'm a member of Magic Linux distro , and are u willing to join us ? for it's english doc ? it's a great Chinese linux distro
[06:43] <Psynaut> Geforce 7800GT OC 256 MB
[06:43] <Rubin> nano__  you need to tell dhcpd not to overwrite your changes. then just edit the file with your fav text editor under sudo, and change <IP_ADDRESS> to another nameserver that works. <IP_ADDRESS> is oregonstate's nameserver for example.
[06:43] <CruCio> Reading state information... Done
[06:43] <CruCio> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:43] <CruCio> ??
[06:43] <CruCio> thats all ?
[06:43] <nintendonerd282>  ok the frets on fire shell script wont open up for me. i double click and hit run. and nothign happens, i tried to run it in the terminal but the terminal just closed what am i doing wrong?
[06:43] <misslecommander> Psynut: just a note: when i use Nvidia-gtk-new driver, my system becomes real unstable, freezing and gfx goes haywire
[06:44] <badkitty> ghosTM55: I have no idea what help i could be... You write in mandarin? Was I correct?
[06:44] <Rubin> nano__ alternately, you can use the gui.. under the network settings dialog, theres a DNS tab. delet ethe <IP_ADDRESS> and add osu's there.
[06:44] <soldats> nintendonerd282, if noone knows no one knows, try not to ask too many times too quickly
[06:44] <nickrud> nano__: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> <newline> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> are good dns, it even searches google for you if it can't resolve
[06:44] <nintendonerd282> lol
[06:44] <nintendonerd282> ok fine
[06:44] <icesword> which file control the autostart program on linux?
[06:44] <nintendonerd282> sorry
[06:44] <Psynaut> misslecommander: should I go back to the nvidia-gtk?
[06:44] <ghosTM55> badkitty: yes
[06:44] <astro76> CruCio: maybe, try to install java again, if it doesn't work you should pastebin the output
[06:44] <CruCio> :(
[06:44] <Buyydee> hey. i'm using an intel core 2 duo processor which keeps switching between 800 mhz and 2200 mhz. now i'm watching a movie and this makes it very laggy. how can i switch to maximum performance?
[06:45] <misslecommander> Psynaut: ii would think only if you expreience random crashes and corrupted video displays
[06:45] <ZionPsyfer> misslecommander:  Has he tried the driver package from Nvidia?
[06:45] <bazhang> ghosTM55: what channel?
[06:45] <CruCio> Broken packages :(
[06:45] <Psynaut> misslecommander: yeah.. no crashes or corrupted video yet.... just really laggy renderings and object draws in game on cedega
[06:45] <sanga> webcam
[06:45] <icesword> which file controls the autostart program on linux
[06:45] <CruCio> how come you guys got ur java to work ?
[06:46] <CruCio> how did you did it ?
[06:46] <sanga> hiiiiiiiiiii
[06:46] <badkitty> HI
[06:46] <astro76> CruCio: nothing to do with java, as I said you should pastebin your output and maybe someone can help
[06:46] <misslecommander> there goes my pc speaker beeping again
[06:46] <astro76> !paste | CruCio
[06:46] <ubotu> CruCio: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:46] <ghosTM55> bazhang: what do u mean?
[06:46] <sanga> how r u all
[06:46] <badkitty> bazhang: Your on a roll tonight eh
[06:47] <Odd-rationale> What is the command to end all apt processes?
[06:47] <soldats> icesword, admin > startup on the taskbar
[06:47] <bazhang> ghosTM55: for your magic linux? any channel such as this one--I'm fluent in Mandarin
[06:47] <sanga> ggighu
[06:47] <nano__> Rubin: how do i tell it not to override?
[06:47] <nano__> nickrud: thanks for the servers
[06:48] <icesword> soldats, i mean what file in /etc
[06:48] <Psynaut> misslecommander: should I load up nvidia-settings and see if I can tweak anything in there?
[06:48] <ghosTM55> bazhang: #magiclinux , but few people inside , where do u come from?
[06:48] <bazhang> ghosTM55: can we discuss in that channel?
[06:48] <xTheGoat121x_> Can someone check www.pidgin.im for me?  Am I the only one having problems getting on that site?
[06:48] <MasterNix> how do I start ssh daemon?
[06:48] <ghosTM55> bazhang: okay , i've joined in
[06:48] <CruCio> it says
[06:48] <Steve2922> what does it mean when it says I have to be "identified" do join a certain channel?
[06:48] <CruCio>  Package sun-java6-bin has no installation candidate
[06:48] <Buyydee> does no-one have an idea how to adjust performance settings in gutsy?
[06:49] <astro76> xTheGoat121x_: it appears to be down
[06:49] <soldats> !register | Steve2922
[06:49] <ubotu> Steve2922: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[06:49] <xTheGoat121x_> astro76, thanks... I appreciate it
[06:49] <Rubin> nano__ i dont remember the exact syntax, but in the man page for dhclient.conf it has them. you want to 'supersede' domain-name and domain-name-servers
[06:49] <misslecommander> Psynaut: are you running it in accelerated mode now ?
[06:50] <Psynaut> misslecommander: I can't answer that because I don't know :|
[06:50] <CruCio> so No help right ?
[06:50] <CruCio> for Java installation ?
[06:50] <nano__> Rubin: it says supersede domain-name fugue.com home.vix.com
[06:50] <icesword> soldats, is it /etc/rc.d
[06:50] <ZionPsyfer> Psynaut: No, you're not. the fglrxinfo | grep Direct should return a line that says Yes, if you're in accelerated mode.
[06:50] <atomdog2003> fr500:  was that you who helped me with the ISO mount via smb mount?
[06:51] <Psynaut> Zionpsyfer: isn't fglrx ATI???
[06:51] <soldats> !startup
[06:51] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[06:51] <badkitty> atomdog2003: I think it was
[06:51] <Rubin> nano_, your dhclient.conf does now?
[06:51] <cookiemonster> how do you compile a source code to install an app
[06:51] <nano__> yes
[06:51] <misslecommander> Psynaut: good way to find out. right click desktop, choose Visual Effects Tab, choose Normal. it will tell you then
[06:51] <soldats> icesword, im not too sure since i havent used gnome in a while but see the links ubotu outputted
[06:51] <Rubin> nano_, huh. did you mess with it before?
[06:51] <CruCio> Java Installation help anyone ?
[06:51] <ZionPsyfer> Psynaut: Dur, sorry.  I mean glrxinfo
[06:51] <nano__> Rubin: No
[06:51] <atomdog2003> fr500:  I got it working!  It was the firewall config I had on the windows machine.
[06:52] <icesword> !rc.d
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rc.d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <vegpuff> Odd-rationale,
[06:52] <Rubin> nano__, OH. yeah the # in front means 'comment'
[06:52] <Psynaut> zionpsyfer: hehe ok gonna try that
[06:52] <nano__> Rubin: I just reinstalled 7.10 tonight
[06:52] <Rubin> nano__: thats just an example
[06:52] <Odd-rationale> Sorry, I'm back. What is the command to end all apt processes?
[06:52] <icesword> !info rc.d
[06:52] <ubotu> Package rc.d does not exist in gutsy
[06:52] <nano__> Rubin: Ok
[06:52] <misslecommander> Psynaut: if it says you need to install the nvidia-gtk-new, then you are not running in accelerated mode.
[06:52] <astro76> CruCio: I had asked to pastebin your entire command and error output
[06:52] <icesword> ?rc.d
[06:52] <Rubin> nano__: so just like that only take out the # in front and change it.. :)
[06:52] <Psynaut> misslecommander: I have already installed the nvidia-gtk-new
[06:53] <Ellement> rubin: well got fglrx to install which is good. but restricted drivers still not working. so still cant install ati driver
[06:53] <computer> where does thunderbird store emails. the upgrade killed my data on ubuntu
[06:53] <nano__> Rubin: The whole file is an example...
[06:53] <misslecommander> Psynaut: but that will tell you if it is enabled, those require you to be in accelerated mode
[06:53] <nano__> Rubin: says its a sample config file
[06:53] <Rubin> Ellement, sorry im not really an expert in ati drivers. did you try running the restricted drivers manager?
[06:53] <cookiemonster> is there a compiler with a gui i can install from the add programs?
[06:53] <bullgard4> When will Ubuntu use the /proc/kcore file?
[06:53] <astro76> icesword: there's several places things are started, what are you looking for?
[06:53] <Rubin> nano__: yeah. uncomment the 2 lines and change the host to yours and the <IP_ADDRESS> to the dns server you want to use
[06:53] <misslecommander> Psynaut: i am new to linux, so please bear that in mind. i jave ran the nvidia-gtk-new with alot of system crashes/freezes
[06:54] <astro76> !ide | cookiemonster
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ide - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <icesword> astro76, i mean the system service,i want to add a program myself
[06:54] <Psynaut> misslecommander: no worries I appreciate the help.. I am digging through a lot of stuff myself being new and all as well :D
[06:54] <cookiemonster> umm
[06:54] <badkitty> cookiemonster: Much source code comes with directions on how to compile it
[06:54] <wenbo> does   anyone  can make a smil ubuntu live cd  on usb ???
[06:54] <cookiemonster> yea but it gives me errors
[06:54] <cookiemonster> wont let me install it
[06:54] <Ellement> rubin: thats ok ur help has been very useful. when i go to system settings > advanced > restricted drivers i get a popup saying " u dont need any restricted drivers"
[06:55] <soldats> !idle | cookiemonster
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about idle - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <misslecommander> Psynaut: ok, i just want to warn you, nothing worse than a complete system failure and a need for comple reinstall
[06:55] <astro76> cookiemonster: a gui won't help, you need to resolve the errors, usually with required libraries
[06:55] <Rubin> wenbo, google around, i think theres a few debian and ubuntu liveboot options for usb keys
[06:55] <cookiemonster> =[
[06:55] <cookiemonster> and they say linux is easier than windows
[06:55] <icesword> astro76, by,now i only found that /etc/rc.d/init.d store the information,but still don't know how it works
[06:55] <cookiemonster> ;p