[04:26] <x0rs> is there an application to scan my entire system and make sure everything is kosher through the operating system?
[04:26] <RK> cd command is not working with SUDO . . . help plz
[04:27] <x0rs> like no broken links, etc...?
[04:27] <AbhiJit> RK, you dont need sudo for cd
[04:27] <icarus-c> RK, sudo  cd /path/
[04:27] <icarus-c> and yea.. why sudo for cd
[04:27] <Jordan_U> icarus-c: That won't work. cd is a shell builtin.
[04:28] <deena> Hi
[04:28] <RK> is this the only thread to chat?? no chat threads like yahoo or orkut, etc.??
[04:28] <icarus-c> Jordan_U, don't really know.  never ever did that  in fact :P
[04:28] <mamece2>   whats the best GMAIL notifier for ubuntu?
[04:28] <froggyman> anyone here ever use keypass on ubuntu? when ever I use it it has a really annoying font that is difficult to read
[04:28] <icarus-c> RK, that depends on your IRC client
[04:28] <RK> so giv me the best IRC client
[04:28] <deena> i installed mediaplayer connectivity in firefox extension... when i try to uninstall it sits somewhere not clearly removed
[04:29] <AbhiJit> RK, it seems that ssh is telnet alternate for linux
[04:29] <RK> with the procedure of installation
[04:29] <deena> can anyone tell me how to wipe out fully
[04:29] <icarus-c> RK, that is just a matter of preference
[04:29] <RK> AbhiJit i think so
[04:29] <AbhiJit> hmm
[04:29] <RK> Icarus can u giv me preferences?
[04:29] <RK> plz
[04:29] <RK> and can we change the theme??
[04:29] <icarus-c> RK, some multi-protocol clients  are pidgin, empathy
[04:30] <RK> how to install them?
[04:30] <RK> are they packages?
[04:30]  * icarus-c fell on the floor
[04:30] <Jordan_U> RK: "cd" is a special type of command called a shell "builtin" command. It takes an understanding of how unix and environment variables to understand why, but "sudo cd" simply makes no sense, and cannot work.
[04:30] <RK> Jordan
[04:30]  * AbhiJit gives hand to icarus-c
[04:30] <crawln> that is a givin
[04:30] <RK> i tried it
[04:31] <teratosis> what is the command to restart xserver? if there is such a thing?
[04:31] <aemaeth> Jordan_U: I found a forum post about same problem, it was xfce issue, he had done same dumb mistake as I except he was easily able to get into xfce again
[04:31] <icarus-c> RK, could you tell us what you want to actually do? (say again please if you have already)
[04:31] <RK> icarus, can we change the theme of IRSSI??
[04:32] <glebihan> !x | teratosis
[04:32] <icarus-c> RK, what sort of theme you expect from a command line program...
[04:32] <g33kala6> heyoo
[04:32] <icarus-c> RK, but yes you can.
[04:32] <RK> icarus, i am askin if we can change its appearance?
[04:33] <icarus-c> RK, you could change colour
[04:33] <Ryen> RK: http://www.irssi.org/themes
[04:33] <icarus-c> RK, and layout
[04:33] <RK> ryen,thanks bro
[04:33] <Ryen> RK: No problem.
[04:33] <Ryen> RK: If you need help, I use IRSSI.
[04:33] <RK> ryen, me too
[04:34] <antIP> edbian: what's up?
[04:34] <RK> can anyone tell me wat destructive can we do using terminal?
[04:34] <AbhiJit> :/
[04:36] <bobstro> silence
[04:36] <RK> plz answer
[04:36] <bobstro> RK:  you can break your system
[04:36] <aemaeth> destructive how?
[04:36] <ninjabox> Hmm... I can't seem to get this soundblaster extigy to work =\
[04:36] <RK> bobstro, how?
[04:36] <bobstro> RK:  by doing foolish things, for one.
[04:37] <RK> i hav heard of BackTrack
[04:37] <RK> has anyone used it?
[04:37] <ninjabox> yes
[04:37] <RK> ninjabox, can i get the procedure
[04:37] <ninjabox> lol..
[04:37] <RK> and wat is "Python"
[04:37] <RK> ??
[04:37] <Ryen> !ot | RK
[04:38] <RK> Wats Python??
[04:38] <ninjabox> RK: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=BackTrack
[04:38] <ninjabox> RK: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Python
[04:38] <RK> ninjabox, thanks
[04:38] <brandon420> http://i.imgur.com/SyZvg.jpg
[04:39] <brandon420> can i haz ghetto computer of the day? lol
[04:39] <rww> ninjabox: Don't use lmgtfy links in #ubuntu, please. It's rather obnoxious.
[04:39] <rww> !google
[04:39] <RK> wat is google-fu?
[04:39] <rww> RK: ability to use google well
[04:40] <rww> brandon420: #ubuntu-offtopic would probably be more likely to comment :)
[04:40] <rww> RK: Backtrack has an IRC channel at #backtrack-linux on this server, btw.
[04:40] <ninjabox> rww: lol, when I'm being trolled I try not to help too much =\
[04:41] <RK> and how can I  permanently make my nickname RK
[04:41] <RK> ??
[04:41] <bobstro> ninjabox:  best tinyurl it first :)
[04:41] <RK> even if i log out
[04:41] <RK> or quit
[04:41] <FloodBot1> RK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:41] <AbhiJit> !register | RK
[04:41] <rww> RK: you can't, because someone already registered it on nickserv.
[04:42] <RK> okk no probs
[04:42] <bobstro> RK:  you have interesting questions about linux. what are you trying to do?
[04:42] <RK> And where can i get all the rules and regulations of this chat server
[04:42] <rww> (you can PM nickserv with the command "info nicknamegoeshere" to see if a nickname is registered)
[04:42] <RK> info RK
[04:42] <rww> !guidelines | RK
[04:42] <rww> RK: try /msg nickserv info RK
[04:43] <RK> rww. nothin happened
[04:43] <rww> RK: Which IRC client are you using?
[04:43] <RK> IRSSI
[04:43] <arrrghhh> where are the logs for ffmpeg or mplayer?
[04:43] <icarus-c> arrrghhh, on stdout ?
[04:44] <rww> RK: there should be a new window somewhere with the reply from nickserv, then.
[04:44] <icarus-c> arrrghhh, which means the terminal normally
[04:44] <rww> RK: if you type /query nickserv, it'll go to it
[04:44] <AbhiJit> RK, try pressing alt 1/2/3 or 0
[04:44] <arrrghhh> icarus-c, well ps3mediaserver is the thing that's running, it literally says "check the logs" in the output... i don't know what freakin logs to check, other than it says ffmpeg and mplayer exited with error codes
[04:45] <AbhiJit> i think #ubuntu-beginners would be better channel for him
[04:45] <RK> rww, okk leave it
[04:45] <juk> xbonesx: did you ask about splash image installation?
[04:45] <RK> which is the best media player to use for ubuntu??
[04:45] <xbonesx> juk: ya
[04:45] <glebihan> !best | RK
[04:45] <xbonesx> a long time ago haha
[04:45] <xbonesx> does anyone know how to install this http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Usplash+BlackChrome?content=60249
[04:45] <arrrghhh> rk, highly loaded question.  i prefer vlc.
[04:46] <icarus-c> RK, again.. a matter of personal preference...   like  mplayer, vlc,  totem, xine
[04:46] <juk> xbonesx: here tutorial http://tldp.org/LDP/LG/current/jayanth.html
[04:46] <glebihan> xbonesx: what version of ubuntu are you running ?
[04:46] <xbonesx> ive been searching gnome wiki for like an hour now hahaha
[04:46] <icarus-c> RK, i personally think mplayer is the best though
[04:46] <RK> i used vlc..but when i changed its theme it then suddenly hanged and then never came back to perfectly work...every 1-2 sec it hanged
[04:47] <ninjabox> smplayer is a good front-end for mplayer for people who don't know how to use it`
[04:47] <juk> xbonesx: sorry, i was having lunch
[04:47] <xbonesx> juk: so this will change that pruple loading screen.
[04:47] <xbonesx> glebihan: 10.04
[04:47] <arrrghhh> icarus-c, this is what i get - "Process ffmpeg has a return code of 134! Maybe an error occured... check the log file"
[04:47] <MooshiMuushi> Jahshaka is annoying...
[04:47] <RK> reply me pl
[04:47] <juk> xbonesx: try, and tell me it will
[04:47] <AbhiJit> MooshiMuushi, who is he?
[04:47] <glebihan> xbonesx: in that case, I doubt you can install it, it looks like an usplash theme, and usplash is not used anymore
[04:48] <Drone> is there a GUI that allows me to surf my network drives?  Thunar seems to lack the ability to do so...
[04:48] <icarus-c> xbonesx, run "gconf-editor" , navigate to /apps/gnome-session/options  you will find splash_image and show_splash_screen
[04:48] <MooshiMuushi> AbhiJit, Jahshaka is a video editing program :P
[04:48] <icarus-c> arrrghhh, is there anything look like the log in $HOME ?
[04:48] <juk> icarus-c: i tried gconf-editor didn't work
[04:48] <xbonesx> icarus-c: wow it was that easy
[04:48] <MooshiMuushi> AbhiJit, That can't be installed...
[04:48] <xbonesx> icarus-c: can you change the loading bar style too?
[04:49] <RK> in vlc we can increase the volume upto 400%....any other app that can do this??
[04:49] <mamece2> hello, can someone help me to set gmail with evolution?
[04:49] <icarus-c> RK, i would  "rm -rf ~/.config/vlc "  in that case
[04:49] <AbhiJit> MooshiMuushi, :D
[04:50] <arrrghhh> icarus-c, hrm... not for mplayer or ffmpeg.
[04:50] <icarus-c> arrrghhh, i have no idea then
[04:50] <icarus-c> arrrghhh, what about /tmp
[04:51] <juk> xbonesx: i worked?
[04:51] <juk> xbonesx: it worked?
[04:51] <AbhiJit> mamece2, what happen?
[04:51] <Drone> is there a GUI that allows me to surf my network drives?  Thunar seems to lack the ability to do so...
[04:51] <arrrghhh> icarus-c, not that i can tell... but perhaps at this point i don't know what i'm looking for.
[04:51] <xbonesx> juk: still searching the directory where the image is lol
[04:51] <juk> xbonesx: ok
[04:52] <RK> any media player capable of increasing volume to 400%??
[04:52] <icarus-c> RK, why would you want to increase volume to 400%... sound quality would degrade
[04:52] <Cerebr0> Drone, Places > Network?
[04:52] <Drone> does not exist
[04:53] <RK> icarus, nah..i hav used it before..not big difference..and too my laptops sound s***s
[04:54] <Drone> Cerebr0, does not exist
[04:54] <Cerebr0> are you connected to your network?
[04:54] <RK> reply me plz
[04:54] <Cerebr0> how are your network drives connected to the network?
[04:54] <Drone> yep.  I can view and share files via windows
[04:55] <Drone> but I cant figure out how to browse network drives via linux
[04:55] <glebihan> arrrghhh: ffmpeg does not have a log file, maybe ps3mediaserver has one
[04:55] <doobien> help!!! - i removed my sound mixer from my panel by accident, and there are no volume controls in 'add to panel'.
[04:55] <Cerebr0> I have had no problems accessing my windows network through ubuntu
[04:55] <Drone> what programs you use?
[04:55] <Cerebr0> No special software needed
[04:55] <Drone> ...
[04:56] <Drone> It has a name, whatever it is you are using
[04:56] <mamece2> im back, i have problem setting my gmail to evolution
[04:56] <RK> em leavin now
[04:56] <Cerebr0> Places > Networks > Windows Network
[04:56] <Drone> I don't have a network option under places
[04:56] <Cerebr0> and as long as my other computers are turned on I can see and access them
[04:56] <Drone> so something needs toggled on
[04:57] <Drone> to enable the network option
[04:57] <mamece2> failed to mount
[04:57] <arrrghhh> glebihan, hrm.  why is ps3mediaserver telling me to check its own logs.  well i did check what i thought was the logs for that program, and i don't see anything.
[04:57] <arrrghhh> it was working perfectly fine until i found out it wasn't running my transcodes multi-threaded!
[04:58] <glebihan> arrrghhh: a quick google search indicates that ps3mediaserver has a debug.log file somewhere
[04:59] <glebihan> arrrghhh: seems to be /tmp/javaps3media/debug.log
[04:59] <MooshiMuushi> Anyone know how to install Jahshaka?
[04:59] <arrrghhh> glebihan, yes i've looked at the debug.log.  i don't see anything related to the issue, from what i can tell
[04:59] <Drone> Places uses Thunar and Thunar's help file is quite a joke
[05:00] <tigertv69> hey guys i want to do multipart downloading through lftp.. how do i do that?
[05:02] <mamece2> mamece2
[05:02] <Cerebr0> Drone I'm sorry I am not familiar with Thunar.
[05:02] <mamece2> !une>mamece2
[05:02] <Drone> Whhen you click places, that is Thunar
[05:02] <xbonesx> all those directories in the gconf-editor, where are they loceated
[05:02] <Ellis> ok guys last thing im coming to you for and only because im finding mixed reviews so to all of you 10.04 users. do i really need anti virus software?
[05:02] <xbonesx> im dumb when it comes to searching for shit in ubuntu
[05:03] <icarus-c> xbonesx, ~/.gconf
[05:03] <icarus-c> xbonesx, they are actually written in some xml files
[05:03] <icarus-c> xbonesx, you have "find" and "locate"
[05:03] <icarus-c> commands
[05:03] <Cerebr0> I have Gnome and Nautilus is the file manager, not Thunar
[05:04] <Drone> good lord, someone told ubuntu was supposed to be more user friendly, takes 2 days of research and screwing around to accomplish simple file sharing and I STILL cannot access shares FROM my linux box, but I can from Windows...go figure
[05:04] <Ellis> Cerebr0 thanks for the ssh help earlier
[05:04] <Blue11Away> icarus-c: yes, but locate must be installed.
[05:04] <icarus-c> Ellis, If you share file with Windows system, or run a email/file server, yes
[05:04] <Cerebr0> NP you got it figured out then?
[05:04] <icarus-c> Ellis, if no Windows system will be involved with ubuntu, No.
[05:04] <Cerebr0> Drone what version of Ubuntu are you using/
[05:04] <Ellis> ok i dont share and no server i check my email but thats it
[05:05] <Drone> Thank you cerebr0, why didn't you tell me it was Nautilus you were using in the first place
[05:05] <Drone> I'll replace Thunar with it
[05:05] <icarus-c> Ellis, hence, the whole point of having anti-virus on Linux or whatever Unix-like OS  is just to protect Windows clients
[05:05] <Ellis> icarus- i do alot of bit torrents though
[05:05] <Cerebr0> Because Nautilus comes standard on Ubuntu 10.04
[05:05] <Ellis> ok that answered my question thank you alot
[05:05] <icarus-c> Ellis, doesn't matter. since even you are BT-ing virus,  they wouldn't affect Linux unless you intentionally run them
[05:06] <Drone> using 10.10 here
[05:06] <Ellis> Cerebr0 yep got it all going smooth
[05:06] <Cerebr0> Ellis I use avast to scan MP3 files I download from the net
[05:06] <cloudfree> Nautilus steals some elements from thunar i think
[05:06] <Ellis> so i should have something to scan downloaded mp3 and mp4 files?
[05:07] <icarus-c> cloudfree, i wouldn't say steal. but all open source software get the good bits from others
[05:07] <cloudfree> hehe
[05:07] <doobien> anyone know how i can get the volume control on my panel?
[05:07] <Cerebr0> Ok Drone sorry about that, I am no expert by any stretch of the word, I just try to help when I can
[05:07] <icarus-c> cloudfree, Linux get good stuff from *BSD or any other OS too
[05:07] <Ellis> confused now
[05:07] <Drone> np
[05:07] <Ellis> one says yes one says no
[05:08] <icarus-c> Ellis, as i said, if you got Windows involved with your system. (say you may put those mp3 to Windows),  so yes.
[05:08] <icarus-c> Ellis, or if you don't want to be a virus carrier, yes
[05:08] <cloudfree> icarus-c: did linus know what the bsd is at that moment?
[05:09] <Ellis> okay thats where i got lost if i download it and play it it wont effect my system but it could effect any other systems i put it on?
[05:09] <icarus-c> cloudfree, who knows. but you are not only be able to get stuff BEFORE writing linux right?...
[05:09] <aemaeth> scan with clamav before you put it on a windows system
[05:09] <icarus-c> cloudfree, say we have  ZFS  implementation too
[05:09] <cloudfree> icarus-c: iirc, linus got ideas from minix
[05:10] <sandGorgon> hi guys... anyone know if openssl 1.0 has TSA (RFC 3161) built in. Previously, it needed the opentsa patch to be applied - but it is not available for Openssl 1.0
[05:10] <aemaeth> Ellis: nix is good for ripping Sony cd's because of the rootkits they put on windows
[05:10] <Ellis> thanks
[05:11] <icarus-c> Ellis, those virus don't affect Linux (like 99.999%) and among those 0.000...1%, they won't affect Linux if you don't execute them by youself
[05:11] <Pr3nt1c3> I accidentally removed the volume control from my panel...
[05:11] <icarus-c> Ellis, so when you run anti-virus on Linux, you are trying to protect Windows,  not Linux
[05:11] <Pr3nt1c3> any ideas how to get it back>
[05:11] <Pr3nt1c3> ?
[05:12] <icarus-c> Pr3nt1c3, right click -> Add to Panel -> search for volume
[05:12] <Ellis> ok it took me a sec but i got it now
[05:12] <cloudfree> icarus-c: is it possible to make a grub2-based virus now?
[05:12] <tigertv69>  anyone know?
[05:12] <Pr3nt1c3> already tried that
[05:12] <Cerebr0> anything is possible
[05:12] <Ryen> Pr3nt1c3: Add the notification area.
[05:12] <lhx> Maybe someone here could give me a suggestion: I need some sort of FOSS wiki / collaboration software for a small business. I'm currently using DokuWiki and it's working fine; but I'm looking for a better doc management system. Any ideas to throw out there? Need to be able to do page access at the user level.
[05:12] <cloudfree> and easiler now
[05:12] <Pr3nt1c3> already done that also
[05:13] <DouglasK> How do you set the default application for a file type?
[05:13] <Pr3nt1c3> and I've looked in 'sound and video', 'administration' and 'system tools'
[05:13] <juk____> where's grub's menu?
[05:13]  * cloudfree put Pr3nt1c3 in a virus vm
[05:13] <Pr3nt1c3> huh?
[05:14] <lhx> juk____: when you boot
[05:14] <juk____> where's grub's menu.list
[05:14] <acu> I am trying to use gtk-recordMyDesktop and the advanced button does not work - what is the solution ?
[05:14] <icarus-c> DouglasK, Right click on the file -> Properties -> Open with .  select the app you want to be default (make a dot in the circle)
[05:14] <juk____> where's grub's menu.list
[05:14] <lhx> juk____:  "/boot"
[05:14] <Ryen> Pr3nt1c3: Type this into the terminal 'gnome-volume-control-applet'
[05:14] <antIP> edbian: You around?
[05:14] <xbonesx> the %gconf.xml in the option folder for the splash image doesnt give the directory of the splash_image?
[05:14] <Pr3nt1c3> many thanks
[05:14] <DouglasK> icarus-c, cool, thanks
[05:14] <Ryen> Pr3nt1c3: Did it work?
[05:14] <juk____> lhx: nope, not in /boot
[05:14] <lhx> ...
[05:14] <icarus-c> xbonesx, the directory for splash_image is for you to define
[05:15] <xbonesx> then where is the original?
[05:15] <xbonesx> so i can replace it or back it up?
[05:15] <Pr3nt1c3> yes
[05:15] <lhx> juk____: then maybe /boot/grub?
[05:15] <xbonesx> im talking about the prurple one with the red dotted loading bar btw
[05:15] <icarus-c> xbonesx, is there /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/gnome-splash.png  ?  i'm not on ubuntu now
[05:16] <xbonesx> icarus-c: you know what im talking about when i say the purple background with the red dots loading right, i want to change that
[05:16] <icarus-c> xbonesx, not sure. but i expect you mean to change the gnome splash image
[05:17] <juk____> icarus-c: can you explain, please, splash image is it grub menu's background image at boot time, or running dots .... with purple background?
[05:17] <xbonesx> icarus-c: if that gets rid of the ugly purple background then yes
[05:17] <juk____> lhx: not there in there either
[05:18] <icarus-c> right.. xbonesx do you mean background of Grub, or plymouth splash (the graphical animated boot screen),  or gnome spash (you see when you login,  default disabled)
[05:18] <xbonesx> icarus-c: im talking about the purple one that has red dots.
[05:19] <lhx> juk____: weird... must be the big difference with the new grub
[05:19] <xbonesx> icarus-c: ive changed the grub thats the only one
[05:19] <glebihan> xbonesx: I think you're talking about plymouth splash
[05:19] <xbonesx> maybe
[05:19] <xbonesx> icarus-c: can it be changed
[05:19] <icarus-c> xbonesx, that is something else.  http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Usplash+BlackChrome?content=60249    you've showed is for gnome
[05:20] <glebihan> xbonesx: if you want to change it, look for plymouth themes in the package manager
[05:20] <juk____> glebihan: i guess i am, plymouth splash, how do I change that thing, boot menu i don't have
[05:22] <G33ku5Kh4N> umm... what's "ubuntu one"?
[05:22] <rww> !ubuntuone
[05:22] <G33ku5Kh4N> cheers!
[05:24] <glebihan> icarus-c: that link was in fact an usplash theme adapted from a gnome one, and it cannot be used anymore
[05:24] <icarus-c> juk____, quick google give me this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/quick-tipplymouth-themes-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[05:24] <icarus-c> xbonesx, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/quick-tipplymouth-themes-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[05:24] <Drone> How do I change my default file manager from Thunar to Nautilus in Xfce ?
[05:24] <antIP> Can I ask someone a question about rsync?
[05:24] <icarus-c> antIP, just ask
[05:25] <juk____> Drone: that in gcong-editor
[05:26] <gartral> anyone have a Coby Stick Player?
[05:26] <lhx> antIP: Shoot...
[05:27] <glebihan> juk____, Drone : I may be wrong, but I don't think xfce uses gconf
[05:27] <xbonesx> icarus-c: so how would i use this http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Usplash+BlackChrome?content=60249
[05:27] <icarus-c> xbonesx, you can't
[05:27] <antIP> icarus-c: Ok. Well, I started running rsync to sync about 400GB from my secondary to my external USB back up. I accidently set it to sync to the root of the drive rather than the "Back Up" folder which already contained about 300gb worth of data that I wanted to sync with. I'm not sure how to stop rsync so I'm just letting it run and I deleted the "back up" folder that I had originally wanted to sync to. However, nautilus doesn't seem to r
[05:27] <antIP> ecognize that I deleted the Back Up folder because it still shows that I have over 300gb of data on the drive. Can I restart nautilus while rsync is running to get a proper read of the drive?
[05:28] <FloodBot1> antIP: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:28] <IndiGod> lulz ubuntu
[05:28] <glebihan> xbonesx: you cannot use that theme
[05:28] <xbonesx> icarus-c: why not?
[05:28] <IndiGod> lamest distro ever
[05:28] <Cerebr0> Doesn't Gnome come standard on 10.10 also?  Just curious why you would switch to Xfce from Gnome anyways
[05:28] <IndiGod> anyone that uses ubuntu might as well yell out to the world that they don't understand how linux works but wants to be a part of the "revolution"
[05:28] <IndiGod> lawlz
[05:28] <glebihan> xbonesx: as I already told you, it's an usplash theme, and usplash is not used anumore
[05:28] <Jordan_U> !ops | IndiGod
[05:28] <lhx> antIP: did you take out the trash?
[05:29] <xbonesx> could i extract the images from the .so file and use thme for plymouth?
[05:29] <xbonesx> them*
[05:29] <glebihan> xbonesx: no
[05:29] <Cerebr0> I don't mind the plymouth splash screen, I think it looks pretty decent
[05:29] <xbonesx> glebihan: thats crappy its kool looking
[05:29] <icarus-c> Cerebr0, i like solar theme most :P
[05:30] <antIP> lhx: No, I just sent it to trash. Do I have to do that? Empty the trash?
[05:30] <Drone> how do you use gconf-editor in xfce?
[05:30] <boys_blueholic> whats the meaning :
[05:30] <boys_blueholic> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[05:30] <boys_blueholic> Upstart job, you may also use the restart(8) utility, e.g. restart gdm
[05:30] <boys_blueholic> restart: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.104" (uid=1000 pid=8060 comm="restart) interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Restart" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init"))
[05:30] <FloodBot1> boys_blueholic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:30] <lhx> antIP: if you want HDD space used to read accurately... yes
[05:30] <Cerebr0> Is that solar Eclipse?
[05:31] <icarus-c> antIP, just so you know, the Trash bin is actually  "~/.local/share/Trash"
[05:31] <boys_blueholic> please help
[05:31] <icarus-c> Cerebr0, http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=plymouth+solar
[05:31] <MooshiMuushi> Anyone know how to install Jahshaka?
[05:32] <boys_blueholic> i want to  restart my gdm
[05:32] <boys_blueholic> but still eror :((
[05:33] <antIP> icarus-c: Ok. Can I just right click on trash and empty the trash?
[05:33] <Drone> How do I change my default file manager from Thunar to Nautilus in Xfce ?
[05:33] <Cerebr0> Fedora Redhat boo! :)
[05:33] <glebihan> boys_blueholic: sudo service gdm restart
[05:33] <icarus-c> antIP, i don't know. i wasn't following  :P
[05:33] <Cerebr0> Drone just currious why you are using Xfce instead of Gnome?
[05:33] <antIP> icarus-c I just want to empty my trash.
[05:33] <Drone>  Why not?  It's what was available
[05:34] <icarus-c> antIP, in Nautilus, click Trash, empty it
[05:34] <Cerebr0> I thought Gnome came standard on ubuntu 10.10
[05:34] <Drone> ./shrug no idea, I just know this is what I log into
[05:35] <iflema> Cerebr0: sound like you got Xubuntu....
[05:35] <Drone> How would I go about using Gnome instead of Xfce
[05:35] <Drone> Yes.  Xubuntu
[05:35] <rww> !puregnome
[05:35] <boys_blueholic> still eror :(
[05:36] <boys_blueholic> sudo service gdm restart
[05:36] <boys_blueholic> is still eror :(
[05:36] <xbonesx> icarus-c: why is my plymouth boot screen image in such a low resolution? i have a 1920x1200 screen...
[05:36] <antIP> lhx: I right clicked on the trash and selected 'empty trash' and a windows popped up that says "Emptying the Trash" and the progress bar isn't moving.
[05:36] <iflema> Drone: install the package ubuntu-desktop
[05:37] <antIP> lhx: oh, never mind, it just started moving. Took it like 3 minutes to get started.
[05:37] <Cerebr0> xbonesx that happens when you install your new video drivers
[05:37] <lhx> antIP: yah... it'd take quite a few mins to erases mega gigs
[05:37] <Cerebr0> let me find a link to a good fix for it
[05:37] <xbonesx> Cerebr0: thanks
[05:38] <MooshiMuushi> Anyone know a program that allows us to edit .h264 raw video files?
[05:38] <bullgard4> rww: Yesterday you denounced my using of the »~$ ...« prefix when I cite a command which I run. Why is this bad?
[05:38] <icarus-c> xbonesx, as far as i know, plymouth theme are made of a few small images and scripts control how to display & animate
[05:39] <antIP> lhx: thanks yo.
[05:39] <lhx> np
[05:39] <xbonesx> icarus-c: ok
[05:39] <icarus-c> xbonesx, and they don't use a image to fill the whole screen, so. why need such large resolution?
[05:39] <rww> bullgard4: because it's not part of the actual command, so it ends up being confusing if you say you ran it...
[05:39] <xbonesx> icarus-c: doesnt look so pixilated
[05:42] <icarus-c> xbonesx, wouldn't be. those images are not zoomed or stretched
[05:43] <juk> icarus-c: worked http://ompldr.org/vNW5pcQ http://art.gnome.org/themes
[05:43] <xbonesx> icarus-c: think i figured it out
[05:43] <Cerebr0> I gave him a link to where he can fix his resolution problem, its very common when you switch to a proprietary video card driver
[05:43] <juk> icarus-c: not 100% original though
[05:44] <icarus-c> juk, um what did you do? put the image to the plymouth splash?
[05:44] <juk> icarus-c: yes
[05:44] <icarus-c> juk, you just have to replace the original image file with the new one right?
[05:45] <juk> icarus-c: no, I folowed tutorial you gave me, at ubuntugeek
[05:45] <icarus-c> juk, lol i didn't really read through it
[05:46] <cheny> hi
[05:46] <juk> icarus-c: thanks anyways
[05:47] <brandon420> guys, what kinda stuff can i do with a old p4?
[05:47] <lhx> brandon420: file server, voip server, irc gateway
[05:48] <Cerebr0> I use mine as a file server
[05:48] <lhx> brandon420: folding, porno repository, silica refining
[05:48] <brandon420> thats what i was thinking about doing, but dumb question, how do i set up raid?
[05:48] <brandon420> raid0 i wanna say
[05:48] <brandon420> im not worried about data loss if i drive goes out.
[05:49] <bullgard4> rww: I see your point but I will not refrain from my habit in the future in IRC. Even the Debian Reference does prefix commands to run with '$'. But in a text file one has much more typographical freedom than I have in an IRC message.
[05:49] <lucent> I've discovered a serious data corruption issue after an upgrade to 10.10 Maverick, and the new firewire stack... what should I do about this?
[05:49] <brandon420> 9.10 ftw!
[05:49] <Cerebr0> 10.04 ftw
[05:50] <Cerebr0> lts
[05:50] <DouglasK> lucent, what animal is Maverick?  (Just curious)
[05:50] <brandon420> i dont need lts, i have the ubuntu chan!
[05:50] <Cerebr0> meerkat
[05:50] <rww> bullgard4: that's fine. I wasn't saying that you shouldn't do it, just (if memory serves) explaining what it meant to someone else and saying I wouldn't do it myself
[05:50] <DouglasK> my mail server runs lts
[05:50] <bullgard4> lucent: i.) Discuss that in #ubuntu+1. ii.) File a bug in Launchpad.
[05:50] <lucent> DouglasK: Meerkat, or moose, I don't pay much attention sorry
[05:50] <lucent> thanks bullgard4
[05:51] <DouglasK> lucent, no worries.  Thanks for an answer!
[05:51] <Cerebr0> Should have been Mangy Moose
[05:51] <brandon420> lmfao!
[05:51] <DouglasK> Cerebr0, I agree 100%
[05:51] <lucent> Cerebr0: that's my favourite pub out here in Jackson WY usa
[05:51] <ubuntu> Who speak spanish? :P
[05:51] <rww> !es | ubuntu
[05:51] <Cerebr0> Ahh I live in WY too
[05:51] <ubuntu> necesito a ayuda xD
[05:51] <kmyst> i'm using lucid and my wifi started dying randomly, eventually getting to the point of dying right after login then not working at all...this is happening since some updates, doesn't happen on a recent backup...anybody know why?
[05:52] <Sterist> what's the best way to integrate ext4 into windows 7?
[05:52] <seidos> !es | ubuntu
[05:53] <bullgard4> rww: (*conciliatorily smiling*)
[05:53] <lucent> Sterist: not aware of any way to use ext4 with Windows7, FYI
[05:53] <Levander> What is the best ext3fs driver for Windows 7?
[05:53] <Cerebr0> Win7 can't read it can it?
[05:53] <Levander> ext4 isn't backwards compatible with ext2?  I know there are ext2 drivers.
[05:53] <dospod> join #infonomicon
[05:53] <dospod> dammit :/ i fail tonight
[05:54] <mawst> ext2 works in Windows.
[05:54] <mawst> :P
[05:54] <mawst> With a driver
[05:54] <root_> yep
[05:54] <lucent> Levander: ext4 has features (sort of optional) that make it incompatible disk structures
[05:54] <root_> hu_
[05:54] <Levander> what's the best ext2 driver for windows?
[05:54] <xangua> Sterist: to read ext3/ext4 partitions with windows use 'ext2read'
[05:54] <mawst> I just use a terabyte drive in NTFS
[05:54] <root_> so
[05:54] <lhx> how's the write support for ext2 in M$?
[05:54] <Sterist> xangua are you sure the ext2 drivers will read ext4
[05:54] <mawst> Personal files in OS folders, everything else on the dump drive.
[05:54] <xangua> Sterist: yes
[05:54] <mawst> ext2 support is fine.
[05:55] <icarus-c> Levander, e2ifs.  but it comes with limitations and it is nasty i think
[05:55] <mawst> If you use the driver
[05:55] <xangua> ext2/ext3/ext4
[05:55] <root_> so you told me
[05:55] <icarus-c> Levander, after all, that thing haven't been updated for a long while
[05:55] <Levander> icarus-c: IFS stands for "Installable File System"?  That's the one I'm looking at now.
[05:55] <root_> does anyone knows to configure a sniffer?
[05:55] <Cerebr0> If you need to share data between Win7 and Ubuntu why not use NTFS?
[05:56] <icarus-c> Levander, e2ifs doesn't official state that it support win7
[05:56] <Levander> grrr
[05:56] <icarus-c> Levander, anyway, if you are looking to share files between win7 & ubuntu,  i would suggest to use NTFS,  or  FAT
[05:56] <root_> ?
[05:57] <himie> hey guys my usb headphones don't work anymore in ubuntu there's no sound is there anyway to reinstall the driver or something?
[05:57] <Levander> icarus-c: The partition I want to access is already EXT3.  I'll try to migrate it later to NTFS.
[05:57] <v3nd3tta``> icarus-c ntfs is better (faster) fat32 is a older system
[05:57] <v3nd3tta``> ah, it's Levander
[05:57] <icarus-c> xangua, ext4 got some features (e.g. extent) that break backward compatibility with ext2/ext3
[05:57] <root_> oko
[05:57] <icarus-c> xangua, hence, a normal ext4 filesystem can NOT be accessed by ext2/ext3 driver
[05:57] <Sterist> xangua would it happen to be possible to install windows onto ext? :P
[05:58] <icarus-c> xangua, but you could turn off those features when you make the ext4 file system though
[05:58] <xangua> icarus-c: no, you can't install windows on ext fs
[05:58] <icarus-c> right you can't install Windows on anything other than FAT/NTFS
[05:58] <himie> they used to work before..
[05:58] <Sterist> windows filesystems suck
[05:59] <lucent> icarus-c: not strictly the case but your point is correct
[05:59] <icarus-c> Sterist, ooo don't blame Windows file system.  Windows itself is not good anyway
[05:59] <lucent> Windows thin client installs over iSCSI allow for a nu...  nevermind it's just easier to stick with what you said, I digress
[05:59] <Levander> icarus-c: ext2 IFS fails to install on Windows 7, says it only supports earlier versions of Windows ;(
[05:59] <icarus-c> Levander, not surprising..
[05:59] <iredux> Why does my window session restart after I give any random java applet permissions?
[06:00] <Cerebr0> NTFS = DEFRAGMENTED LIKE CRAZY
[06:00] <Cerebr0> err Fragmented
[06:00] <Sterist> icarus-c no seriously lol fragmentation causes SO many problems
[06:00] <xangua> !ot
[06:00] <lucent> iredux: o_O  nice bug there
[06:00] <root_> im just new to this
[06:00] <icarus-c> Sterist, that is about the driver, hence the kernel
[06:00] <oktay> selam turk olan var mı?
[06:00] <hceasy> who is boot
[06:00] <hceasy> ?
[06:00] <root_> hate my name to be root ..s
[06:00] <icarus-c> Sterist, i mean windows
[06:01] <Sterist> people say fragmentation doesn't occur on the ext family but what about free-space fragmentation?
[06:02] <Arsic> what files exist on free space are there to be fragmented?
[06:02] <Levander> icarus-c: I found out how to install ext2ifs on Win7, you have to run it in compatible mode for Vista
[06:02] <lucent> Levander: I'll give you an example that maybe you will absorb more directly, D-Cinema Packages (that hollywood digital delivery system for major motion picture films) arrive on ext3 formatted FS in bare hard drives
[06:03] <Guest73239> arcis where are you from??
[06:03] <lucent> that's what I do for work these days when I'm not snowboarding :)
[06:03] <Levander> lucent, no idea what you're talking about
[06:03] <lucent> the advantages to ext4 are lost when you want compatibility with other systems
[06:04] <lucent> if you need compatibility, my advice is to stick to ext3
[06:04] <Cerebr0> If you are sharing data just use a NTFS partion, Ubuntu has no problems reading and writing to NTFS
[06:06] <Arsic> ubuntu has trouble with NTFS with gparted. it happened a bunch of times today. I was resizing the partition and cancelled 2 seconds into the apply. the FS became dirty and I was unable to resize it. had to boot into windows to chkdsk it
[06:06] <Arsic> ntfsfix didn't help much
[06:06] <Levander> lucent, this is just a hack, i intend to migrate the drive fully to ntfs when i get a chance, thanks though
[06:08] <MTecknology> Arsic: you cancelled a resize that was in operation?
[06:08] <MTecknology> Arsic: I don't know if there's any easy way to recover from that..
[06:08] <CharlieSu> Has anyone ever setup rsyslog to backup files to S3?
[06:08] <Guest73239> adanos oradamısın
[06:08] <Arsic> it was preparing to resize, so nothing was actually resized
[06:08] <Arsic> nah it was fine after I ran chkdsk from Windows.
[06:09] <zack> Ive got a lenovo laptop with switchable graphics so i can use my onboard graphics whenever im not gaming to save battery / power .. how do i enable this feature in ubuntu?
[06:09] <MTecknology> CharlieSu: rsyslog is for logging
[06:10] <CharlieSu> MTecknology: yes.. i'd like to take the log files that are generated by rsyslog and store them to s3 for durability
[06:10] <Loshki> Arsic: clearly the fs *was* touched. Cancelling after applying on a mostly reverse-engineered filesystem seems like it's just asking for trouble...
[06:10] <MTecknology> CharlieSu: you can just tell rsyslog to backup to that partition - but I'd suggesnt an rsync with cron instead - keep two copies
[06:11] <icarus-c> Arsic, if you have read the ntfsfix man page, it clearly says that its function is very limited.
[06:11] <icarus-c> Arsic, far from being able to repair a damaged ntfs
[06:11] <CharlieSu> MTecknology: how do i ensure that each file has a unique name?
[06:11] <Arsic> kinda figured that after it didn't work. should have read the man page before using it
[06:12] <MTecknology> CharlieSu: rsyslog handles keeping naming correct
[06:12] <icarus-c> Arsic, http://xkcd.com/293/
[06:12] <Cerebr0> MAN Pages FTW!
[06:12] <Sterist> anyone know how to fix the webcam displaying upside down
[06:13] <icarus-c> Sterist, rotate the webcam upside down? B-)
[06:13] <MTecknology> CharlieSu: with cron   sudo crontab -e   @daily rsync -a --delete /var/log /media/subdisk/
[06:13] <lucent> Sterist: err... is it v4l or v4l2?
[06:13] <MTecknology> Sterist: acer?
[06:13] <Sterist> icarus-c i actually did turn my laptop upside down lol
[06:13] <Sterist> i don't know what that is
[06:13] <lucent> sometimes there's a "flip" setting in the v4l2 interface and you can control that setting with a utility
[06:13] <Sterist> 10.04 fully up-to-date, whatever is default
[06:14] <lucent> Sterist: what's the application you want to use the webcam with?
[06:14] <Sterist> flash
[06:14] <Loshki> Arsic: the biggest downside of ntfs is probably that you can get the FS into a state where only a windows system can fix it...
[06:14] <lucent> Sterist: oh geeze, hrm
[06:14] <Sterist> lol =/
[06:14] <lucent> flash last I checked had implemented V4l but not V4l2
[06:14] <zack> Ive got a lenovo laptop with switchable graphics so i can use my onboard graphics whenever im not gaming to save battery / power .. how do i enable this feature in ubuntu?
[06:14] <MTecknology> !repeat | zack
[06:15] <wgrant> zack: For now you will have to use the BIOS to switch between them.
[06:15] <lucent> so there is some kind of wacky pipeline I was able to construct once to get from a V4l2 camera device to export a dvcam firewire to V4L device with filters along the way
[06:15] <Arsic> Loshki: well, that was the moral of the story.
[06:15] <zack> okay wgrant ty
[06:15] <kdubois> where to go for help with cheese, the webcam app?
[06:15] <lucent> Sterist: I'm thinking if someone has solved this, you would find out quicker by searching via Google "webcam upside down flash Ubuntu 9.04" or whichever
[06:15] <wgrant> zack: Lenovo hasn't disclosed how to switch, so it's taking a while to get it working in Linux.
[06:16] <MTecknology> Arsic: You could alternatively use this as a sign that it's time to just not use windows anymore! :P
[06:17] <icarus-c> Sterist, http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=33109&start=0
[06:17] <G33ku5Kh4N> anyone able to point me in the direction as to how I go about upgrading a router's firmware from the cmdln?
[06:17] <icarus-c> Sterist, "create a .conf file in etc/modprobe.d that will add the option "vflip=1" to uvcvideo"
[06:17] <geekuskhan> the router's interface / web-based admin seems to not have the option available
[06:18] <geekuskhan> netcomm told me to throw it out, but I'd prefer to just fix it myself
[06:18] <icarus-c> Sterist, um ignore that quote
[06:18] <bonez2046> anyone have success running skype for linux, with video? is skype+linux+video there yet?
[06:19] <Exavion> bonez2046: I run it fine
[06:19] <lucent> bonez2046: I regularly video call with Skype
[06:19] <Sterist> icarus-c i noticed lol
[06:19] <lucent> bonez2046: the Linux client is a bit janky, but that's more about some of my contacts can't search for me when I'm logged in. Most functions work
[06:20] <Sterist> icarus-c "malicious command warning" :P
[06:20] <Sterist> icarus-c pulled from a question, not an answer
[06:20] <FusionX> im getting thi error while booting up ubuntu 10.04 -> [drm:edid_is_valid] *ERROR* Raw EDID: but the ubuntu loads up and starts fine, but i'm facing alot of performance reduncy.
[06:21] <lucent> FusionX: I think EDID is from your display
[06:21] <lucent> internal (laptop) or external display?
[06:21] <bonez2046> lucent: which version of skype? maybe my issue is setting up my cam
[06:21] <FusionX> lucent: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/536827 External!
[06:22] <lxsys> Hey. I'm on another IRC server, and irssi is giving out my hostname which has my ip. Every now and then somebody is annoyed that I kicked them and they DoS my low bandwidth connection. How do I stop irssi giving out my hostname?
[06:22] <lucent> bonez2046: I've managed to install Skype (Beta) Version <IP_ADDRESS>, which version is yours?
[06:22] <bonez2046> lucent: I have that same version <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:23] <lucent> lxsys: unrelated to irssi, any client would be a connection to the IRC server which then exposes your IP / host
[06:23] <xbonesx> i think i messed up plymouth really good
[06:23] <ABGD> Hey guys, i just bought a bare-bones box and it doesn't have a CD-drive, it allows booting over LAN, so I want to install ubuntu on it over my LAN but I am having trouble, i couldn't get DHCP configured on my Macbook Pro, nor on my ubuntu virtual, i really don't know what to do at this point... if somebody could help me that would be fucking awesome
[06:23] <geekuskhan> lxsys, you'll need to enable vhost for your user / op....
[06:23] <geekuskhan> not sure about the server itself
[06:23] <lxsys> geekuskhan: ok, thanks
[06:23] <icarus-c> Sterist, do you have "/sys/class/video4linux/video0/vflip"  ?
[06:24] <lucent> nice find icarus-c
[06:24] <geekuskhan> and make sure you script your login so it's on evererytime you reconnect
[06:24] <lucent> bonez2046: um, privmsg w/ me we can talk about Skype, it's just a tad off topic here
[06:24] <icarus-c> Sterist, if you do,  sudo echo 1 > /sys/class/video4linux/video0/vflip  should do.  but that exist only on some devices
[06:26] <Sterist> icarus-c is that for external cameras?
[06:27] <icarus-c> Sterist, i don't know. it came from a forum thread, issue appears on laptop
[06:28] <etheretic> 'lo
[06:28] <cloudfree> hi, have i missed something?
[06:28] <Sterist> i don't see that file / folder in video0
[06:29] <cloudfree> Sterist: then you have no v4l
[06:29] <xbonesx> the purple loading screen with red dots now is all pixilated and now there are what looks like two of them, i have the nvidia 8600m gt
[06:29] <Sterist> cloudfree so what can i do
[06:29] <cloudfree> enable it
[06:29] <etheretic> Anyone have experience with resolving iowait issues? My comp is semi paralyzed.
[06:29] <cloudfree> it's time to search
[06:29] <xbonesx> its the plymouth i believe
[06:30] <multipass> how do i set permission to put stuff in folders? im trying to put plugins into the gedit plugin folder but i dont have permission
[06:30] <Sterist> cloudfree i read that its supposed to be included with ubuntu by default as of 9.04 or something
[06:30] <cloudfree> Sterist: indeed, at least, on my box
[06:31] <cloudfree> Sterist: have you installed a tv card?
[06:32] <icarus-c> Sterist, don't worry, i have no vfilp file too
[06:32] <mattgyver> multipass, thats a loaded question if your new to linux.  It may be easier to do it as root ;)
[06:32] <HansGruber> Can you use Netflix Que website in Linux, I can watch the actual streaming movies on my PS3?
[06:32] <lucent> multipass: short answer, right click the thing and "properties"
[06:32] <rww> HansGruber: you can add stuff to a Netflix Instant queue from Linux, yes
[06:33] <multipass> mattgyver: well i dont understand why it dosnt ask me for my password like when installing something.. it simply dosnt let me do it
[06:33] <rww> you just can't actually watch it on Linux
[06:33] <Sterist> cloudfree how do i find out lol
[06:33] <lucent> you must have access to change the permissions though, if you do not have access then it is a different question about how to get access
[06:33] <HansGruber> thank you, is ubuntu easy to use, I am not a computer expert, but I have grown extremely tired of the endless crashing of Vista?
[06:33]  * cloudfree dies
[06:34] <cloudfree> HansGruber: that means nothing
[06:34] <cloudfree> HansGruber: you need more windows train
[06:34] <uwafflesasage> my fucking windows train broke down
[06:34] <coraxx> HansGruber: Ubuntu is very easy...compared.
[06:34] <cloudfree> training
[06:34] <uwafflesasage> i can't just go out and buy a new one
[06:35] <HansGruber> awesome, I am going to download the ISO now
[06:35] <uwafflesasage> this is of silly talk
[06:35] <lucent> HansGruber: I'm tired of computers being annoying, in general. Ubuntu is not exempt. It is slightly less awful than the alternatives in my needs
[06:35] <etheretic> CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT not enabled in kernel, cannot determine SWAPIN and IO %
[06:35] <bobstro> ABGD:  did you get an answer?
[06:36] <Arsic> ubuntu takes a bit of getting used to if all you're used is windows. start by making the transition
[06:36] <cloudfree> ubuntu is an alternative of redhat or mandrake in old good days
[06:36] <coraxx> HansGruber: good idea... and you can "test drive" Ubuntu, before installing ...just by running it from the CD.  (are you named after the Die Hard villan ?)
[06:36] <HansGruber> oh, one other question, can you run quickbooks online with ubuntu and the latest firefox, it is not officially supported but I was wondering if it will run?  I have a windows box at the office to handle most things, but it is nice to be able to handle it at home as well? I have read conflicting reports, so I wanted to ask a live person, sorry if I am being a pain in the ass.
[06:36] <bobstro> lucent:  what are you finding annoying?
[06:36] <cloudfree> and ubuntu channel is repeating things what happened on #debian in the past
[06:36] <uwafflesasage> ubuntu cds can run in live mode
[06:37] <uwafflesasage> pop it into the drive and set the boot order to boot from that drive
[06:37] <HansGruber> coraxx "I am going to count to three, there will not be a four." ;)
[06:37] <lucent> bobstro: it's a big list, we should discuss at a pub with plenty of napkins and ink
[06:37] <coraxx> HansGruber: "...the code please"....yup got it :-)
[06:37] <HansGruber> uwafflesasage that is a great idea, I will test out quickbooks on the live cd :)
[06:37] <bobstro> lucent:  well, maybe a short list we can try to help you with for the time being ?
[06:38] <bobstro> lucent:  but yeah, computers aren't perfect just yet :)
[06:39] <etheretic> bobstro: at least the un-classified ones.
[06:39] <lucent> bobstro: I'm very angry about multitasking and clocked CPU operation, also RGB colourspace and the insanity that is the Ctrl key placement on us104 layouts
[06:39] <bobstro> lucent:  oh... so nothing specific about ubuntu at the moment?
[06:39] <bobstro> etheretic:  they will let you know when they're perfect. :)
[06:39] <cloudfree> lucent: so... invent your own computer since now?
[06:40] <lucent> cloudfree: pretty nice of me yah
[06:40] <cloudfree> ...
[06:40] <uwafflesasage> h3'/ g@!z 1 50 r337 i uz3 n00b00n700!!1
[06:40] <etheretic> bobstro: ...skynet!
[06:40] <HansGruber> I think I am going to try the windows installer and transition gradually.
[06:40] <bobstro> lucent:  i got over the ctrl key thing some time ago. my german keyboard had same placement, IIRC
[06:41] <bobstro> lucent:  anything related to ubuntu?
[06:41] <lucent> bobstro: Ubuntu's title bar design choice is awkward and awful, I have a preference for "/apps/metacity/general/button_layout" to be minimize,menu:close
[06:41] <RPG-Master> How do I set my local IP address?
[06:41] <lhx> ...
[06:41]  * cloudfree puts the meta and macro keys back to lucent's keyboard
[06:41] <uwafflesasage> Only protection against skynet is openbdsm but openbds suckz cuas its frnch
[06:41] <RPG-Master> In want my desktop to stick to xxx.xxx.101
[06:41] <bobstro> lucent:  you mean the new layout with buttons at left?
[06:41] <lucent> yes, very disagreeable to that new layout
[06:42] <uwafflesasage> ubutnu is african
[06:42] <bobstro> lucent:  ah, well i agree. that is a 10 second fix though.
[06:42] <etheretic> bah. 80% iowait. and I can't analyze it because *ahem* someone bungling the latest kernel.
[06:42] <uwafflesasage> africa has nasty water
[06:42] <uwafflesasage> right?
[06:42] <cloudfree> uwafflesasage: no, ubuntu is a rich man in south africa
[06:42] <bobstro> uwafflesasage:  there's gnarly water all over
[06:42] <geekuskhan> quick question... if I try: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and then enter the password when prompted, I should be able to browse my router's filesys, right?
[06:42] <cloudfree> uwafflesasage: in fact, he is an elite british
[06:42] <Cerebr0> Yea that is one of the first things I fix on Ubuntu :Minimize, Maximize, Close
[06:42] <cloudfree> s/an/a
[06:42] <uwafflesasage> i havnet heard of this rich man "UBUNTU" in south africa
[06:43] <lucent> it's 10 seconds that new users think "What the hell is this?" and walk away, unfortunately for anyone human enough to want to try Ubuntu the first time
[06:43] <bobstro> lucent:  only if they're insisting on it being something else. not like windows hasn't moved things around over the years.
[06:43] <cloudfree> the apache helicapter is not invented by apache people
[06:43] <etheretic> restart
[06:43] <cloudfree> this is same
[06:44] <bobstro> lucent:  there are distros that look disturbingly like windows, if that is the measure of success.
[06:44] <uwafflesasage> yeah, butt the bladesas were inspired by their axe grooves
[06:44] <icarus-c> !controls | lucent
[06:44] <icarus-c> just in case you didn't know yet
[06:44] <icarus-c> it is a one-line command to fix
[06:44] <bobstro> lucent:  and that 'apple' interface seems to be gaining acceptance!
[06:44] <uwafflesasage> ubutnut is like windows for free
[06:44] <uwafflesasage> everyone know that
[06:44] <geekuskhan> well, it's not working
[06:44] <uwafflesasage> why its great@
[06:45] <Cerebr0> If I am not mistaken, Mark Shuttleworth is from South Africa.
[06:45] <mamece2> how do VM works?
[06:45] <bobstro> geekuskhan:  what are you running on the router?
[06:45] <uwafflesasage> windows is great and ubutnut is windows only free
[06:45] <bobstro> ubuntu was the concept described by desmond tutu, no?
[06:45] <bobstro> *koff*
[06:45] <bobstro> geekuskhan:  it really depends on how the router is configured.
[06:46] <geekuskhan> well, in the web interface, I've only allowed ssh access aside from web-interface
[06:46] <uwafflesasage> ubtunut is like widnows only with better cyqgwin utiltites right?
[06:46] <mocha0range> bobstro: yeah, that's what it's named after
[06:46] <bobstro> uwafflesasage:  it's an alternative to windows. different.
[06:46] <cordor> can  i have application maximum to multiple workspace?
[06:46] <bobstro> uwafflesasage:  cygwin lets you run linux apps on windows.
[06:47] <uwafflesasage> but tit has better cyqgwin
[06:47] <lucent> bobstro: it's not a point to argue with me, you know. I'm expressing that I think it's a stupid design choice, but you are correct about the reasoning
[06:47] <bobstro> lucent:  not arguing, mostly agreeing. but glad that's such an easy fix!
[06:47] <lucent> cordor: not easily, mate
[06:47] <Cerebr0> Ubuntu http://blog.ted.com/2008/07/22/telling_stories/
[06:47] <geekuskhan> secondly it's running linux kernel 2.26...
[06:47] <reggi> hey folks
[06:47] <bobstro> lucent:  believe me, i hate computers when they act stupid too.
[06:47] <lucent> cordor: I think you should re-think what you are trying to do
[06:47] <bobstro> lucent:  just hoping to help out.
[06:47]  * lucent :)
[06:47] <lucent> and appreciated, thank you
[06:47] <uwafflesasage> heeeeeqaaaaaaaaaaahghhghnnnn
[06:47] <geekuskhan> hmm, my bad, 2.4
[06:48] <uwafflesasage> im tried!
[06:48] <bobstro> lucent:  i read that there's supposed to be something new up at the right at some point, so we shall see.
[06:48] <cloudfree> if ubuntu is protos, mint is the dark templers
[06:48] <lucent> bobstro: overjoyed that the floppy disk is finally near its grave, too
[06:48] <reggi> does anyone know if it's possible to subscribe and download pod casts in ubuntu?
[06:48] <cordor> lucent: oh, i thought about that many times, thanks. the question is not what i want, it's if that's possible.
[06:48] <bobstro> uwafflesasage:  cygwin is something else.
[06:48] <uwafflesasage> goodniGHT BORTHER BEAR!!!
[06:48] <juk> Hi, Im using awn panel, and I have added in launcher applet some apps, but letter i realised, i don't need some of 'em , how to undo launcher panel in original state?
[06:49] <geekuskhan> it's a netcomm NB6+4W
[06:49] <bobstro> lucent:  i thought so too. then i had to update the bios on a motherboard without a floppy.
[06:49] <cloudfree> uwafflesasage: what bear?
[06:49] <lucent> cordor: it would be possible if you uh... did everything by hand with configuration, and exactly I'm not sure if it is a simple matter of config files in Ubuntu anymore
[06:49] <bobstro> lucent:  just enough to haunt you.
[06:49] <uwafflesasage> BORTHER BEAR
[06:49] <Cerebr0> You can get podcast in Banshee
[06:49] <juk> dragging off, not works, they fall back
[06:50] <bobstro> lucent:  fortunately, creating a DOS ISO worked but it was frustrating.
[06:50] <cloudfree> have you tried ubuntu one?
[06:50] <uwafflesasage> BANSHEES ARENT REAL
[06:50] <juk> cloudfree: yes
[06:50] <bobstro> uwafflesasage:  i've worked with some :)
[06:50] <cordor> lucent: i guess from a user point of view, the answer is no.
[06:50] <cloudfree> juk,is it good?
[06:50] <lucent> cordor: starting with say something sane like a Debian Linux distribution, you could go minimal, and do some config file kung-fu, that depends on display drivers and X11...  wouldn't know if it can be done anymore or what has changed.  Right, probably No.
[06:50] <mamece2> how do VM works?
[06:50] <uwafflesasage> THEY'RE MADE BY microsfot games
[06:50] <Erqo1> Anyone happen to know why cryptsetup (for LUKS) would not prompt for a passphrase upon a format attempt?
[06:51] <bobstro> mamece2:  that is a complicated question.
[06:51] <sweetpi> !ot | uwafflesasage
[06:51] <mamece2> ok
[06:51] <mamece2> bobstro whats the best VM?
[06:51] <icarus-c> mamece2, i would research with search engine
[06:51] <lucent> cordor: one application over many virtual workspaces is possible if the window manager (say replace Metacity with something else but then it's not really "Ubuntu") would allow it
[06:51] <bobstro> mamece2:  assuming you mean virtual machines
[06:51] <uwafflesasage> thank you my borther bear
[06:51] <bobstro> mamece2:  no simple answer.
[06:51] <mamece2> bobstro yes, ive heard of VMware
[06:51] <MTecknology> I'm trying to mount an xfs devide. In fstab I have this --> /dev/sda4 /opt xfs defaults,noatime,user,noauto,unhide 0 2 <-- When I try to run mount /opt, I get mount: unknown filesystem type 'xfs' ... Any ideas what I missed?
[06:52] <uwafflesasage> LIFE hgas bno simple asnwers
[06:52] <bobstro> mamece2:  there are others. xen, the sun one (i always forget the name of).
[06:52] <mamece2> bobstro is WINE the same as Vmware?
[06:52] <bobstro> mamece2:  i mostly deal with vmware because i encounter it at work.
[06:52] <MTecknology> xfs is even listed in the man page as a valid type..
[06:52] <bobstro> mamece2:  no, totally different approach.
[06:52] <reggi> does anyone know if it's possible to subscribe and download pod casts in ubuntu?
[06:52] <icarus-c> mamece2, some popular general vm are Linux kvm, vmware, Linux Xen, virtualbox
[06:52] <bobstro> reggi:  yes
[06:52] <juk> cloudfree: yes, Im using ubuntu one cloud, for backing up some valuable configs, etc.
[06:52] <uwafflesasage> vmwear sucks, its property!
[06:52] <bobstro> reggi:  somebody mentioned banshee. i use miro.
[06:52] <Cerebr0> VirtualBox is cool
[06:52] <bobstro> uwafflesasage:  doesn't matter if that's what at's work.
[06:52] <reggi> bobstro, thanks man
[06:52] <mamece2> bobstro is it better to run windows through VMware or WINE?
[06:52] <juk> Hi, Im using awn panel, and I have added in launcher applet some apps, but letter i realised, i don't need some of 'em , how to undo launcher panel in original state?
[06:53] <juk> dragging off, not works, they fall back
[06:53] <bobstro> uwafflesasage:  i think you mean 'proprietary' too
[06:53] <Arsic> you can't run windows through wine
[06:53] <Arsic> it's not a vm
[06:53] <bobstro> juk:  try right-click->properties->task manager
[06:53] <uwafflesasage> its property too dude
[06:53] <Cerebr0> Juk right click go to applets
[06:53] <bobstro> mamece2:  for just a few apps, wine perhaps. if you 'need windows', virtualization
[06:54] <uwafflesasage> wonders if stalmanns shares weed
[06:54] <uwafflesasage> ?
[06:54] <Cerebr0> dock preferences > applets and drag off
[06:54] <bobstro> uwafflesasage:  so you're saying property is bad?
[06:54] <juk> Cerebr0: so, next?
[06:54] <reggi> bobstro, i'll check out miro :)
[06:54] <uwafflesasage> bobstro
[06:54] <uwafflesasage> if thta is you're rel name
[06:54] <bobstro> reggi:  i quite like it. it's overkill for just podcasts, but nice for video stuff too.
[06:54] <uwafflesasage> your offtopic
[06:54] <bobstro> uwafflesasage:  everbody uses their real names here.
[06:55] <blakkheim> lol
[06:55] <juk> bobstro: thank you very much!
[06:55] <mamece2> bobstro i have a torrent dowloading in another partition with windows. could i run wine and end the dowloading?
[06:55] <uwafflesasage> uLie
[06:55] <uwafflesasage> iev seen this CALL before
[06:55] <bobstro> juk:  it's not exactly intuitive, but it works.
[06:56] <bobstro> mamece2:  probably not. let it finish.
[06:56] <chitti> mamece2 sorry! dude
[06:56] <cordor> lucent: anyway, thanks. :)
[06:56] <juk> bobstro: yeah, I just didn't look at Task Manager
[06:56] <mamece2> bobstro can i searh for files in another partition from ubuntu?
[06:56] <uwafflesasage> gekroekst man on hes neet bar huoi
[06:56] <uwafflesasage> BORTHA
[06:56] <uwafflesasage> BORTHA
[06:56] <uwafflesasage> BORTHA
[06:56] <FloodBot1> uwafflesasage: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:56] <bobstro> mamece2:  yes, but torrent software may not recognize the download that's partially finished.
[06:57] <bobstro> now who's OT?
[06:57] <mamece2> bobstro tyvm
[06:57] <uwafflesasage> why ahs nailbot silenced before?
[06:57] <chitti> mamece2 What do u mean give clearly
[06:57] <bobstro> ranting about bears perhaps?
[06:58] <uwafflesasage> bortha bear
[06:58] <mamece2> i want to fully migrate to ubuntu
[06:58] <bobstro> mamece2:  a noble effort!
[06:59] <uwafflesasage> i wont some rahffeeoly is what i wont
[06:59] <bobstro> mamece2:  what is stopping you?
[06:59] <mamece2> i try it enough with a 20 gigs partition
[06:59] <bobstro> mamece2:  that is enough to play around with, yes.
[06:59] <bobstro> mamece2:  if you have a lot of large files, you'll want more, of course.
[06:59] <mamece2> i have scrobbler, tweetdeck, and i see i can run torrents
[06:59] <uwafflesasage> there was a man on here
[06:59] <uwafflesasage> his name was bortha bear
[06:59] <chitti> hi
[06:59] <sweetpi> uwafflesasage: Do you actually have a support question, or are you here to thrill us with your random chatter?
[06:59] <uwafflesasage> where is he?
[07:00] <uwafflesasage> im looking for bortha bear
[07:00] <uwafflesasage> hes impoertanr
[07:00] <chitti> if i upgrade my system then old installation will be there or not
[07:00] <Cerebr0> no
[07:00] <bobstro> uwafflesasage:  look up 'whowas' in your irc client docs
[07:00] <sweetpi> right. ignore it is
[07:01] <mamece2> now i need to know if i can run a VM and boot backtrack 4
[07:01] <uwafflesasage> i dont haev chatclients
[07:01] <mattgyver> chitti,  most of the time your okay, generally you might find that some configuration files were wiped
[07:01] <Cerebr0> yes, yes
[07:01] <uwafflesasage> who was bortha bear
[07:01] <bobstro> mamece2:  you could, yes.
[07:01] <chitti>  if i upgrade my system then old installation will be there or not ....i mean installed software like players ...bug updates
[07:01] <kike> hey
[07:02] <chitti> mattgyver: thank u ....
[07:02] <bobstro> mamece2:  you could try vmware player
[07:02] <Arsic> VM+BT4 is okay. depends on what you want to do with it
[07:02] <Cerebr0> if you upgrade to 10.10 from 10.04 you will not be able to downgrade...
[07:02] <bobstro> mamece2:  there's a lot of interest in bt tonight. that's an interesting place to start learning about linux.
[07:02] <chitti> k got it
[07:03] <uwafflesasage> bobstro kreik tuo waartstur fa bortha bear?
[07:03] <mamece2> first i tryed BT4 and i feel in love with linux
[07:03] <Cerebr0> Chitti yes all software and other customizatino will be there
[07:03] <bobstro> mamece2:  most of those same tools will run on other distributions too
[07:03] <bobstro> mamece2:  so it's just a question of picking which you prefer overall and tailoring it to suit your needs.
[07:03] <mamece2> i seee BT4 is based in ubuntu, amirite?
[07:03] <Cerebr0> Yes, BT4 is just a handy little package
[07:04] <uwafflesasage> kreik jemakt tuo waartstur fa bortha bear??
[07:04] <Cerebr0> how can you ignore a person in here?
[07:04] <Arsic> do BT and Ubuntu still share the same repositories?
[07:04] <mamece2> lol that guy is a real troll
[07:04] <Cerebr0> right...
[07:05] <uwafflesasage> when i meat you i was but a lerner, bot now i am the master
[07:05] <sweetpi> Cerebr0: /ignore nick
[07:05] <mattgyver> Arsic, no
[07:05] <bobstro> uwafflesasage:  please don't meat me
[07:05] <HansGruber> interest?
[07:05] <mattgyver> Arsic, im not even sure backtrack is built off debian
[07:05] <uwafflesasage> wghy hasnt bortha bear?
[07:05] <mamece2> uwafflesasage can i axe u a question?
[07:05] <bobstro> mamece2:  ignore trolls
[07:05] <uwafflesasage> yes
[07:06] <mamece2> y r u so annoying bra?
[07:06] <Arsic> backtrack is debian based
[07:06] <uwafflesasage> im tryn to find my freind
[07:06] <Flannel> uwafflesasage: He's not here, please look elsewhere for him.
[07:06] <uwafflesasage> he was on one of these things
[07:06] <bobstro> uwafflesasage:  he moved, left no forwarding address.
[07:06] <bobstro> uwafflesasage:  that name doesn't work anyhow
[07:06] <mamece2> BT and ubuntu are debian based rite?
[07:06] <mattgyver> Arsic, learned something new then.  No i wouldnt use ubuntu repos on it just as you shouldnt for standard debian systems since they could be packaged differently
[07:06] <uwafflesasage> bortha bear ?
[07:06] <uwafflesasage> it had liek underscores in it
[07:07] <Flannel> uwafflesasage: This channel is for Ubuntu support, please take non-support questions elsewhere, thanks.
[07:07] <bobstro> uwafflesasage:  found him for you - http://www.myspace.com/229465573
[07:07] <uwafflesasage> i need to fin my freind
[07:07] <mamece2> why should i stay with ubuntu and not going to the source DEBIAN?
[07:07] <bobstro> uwafflesasage:  that's him
[07:07] <bobstro> mamece2:  packaging mostly
[07:08] <cancuengt> hi. I had a problem (i dont know why) but had corrupted files. I know that something messed up because eth0 didn't up automatically etc after the fix of fsck. How do I check that all the installed software is correctly installed?
[07:08] <bobstro> mamece2:  ubuntu is more convenient. both are excellent.
[07:08] <Cerebr0> because Ubuntu takes the best of Debian and improves it
[07:08] <dr0id> guys I am on KDE, deleting a simple file takes about 1-2 mins, it used to get deleted at the hit of the delete button fee weeks ago, but for the past 1-2 weeks, I am facing this issue, please help me
[07:08] <mamece2> i just dont go fully with BT coz i am new at this, and i need the easy installation and driver of ubuntu
[07:08] <bobstro> mamece2:  there are pros and cons to both, but knowing one you'll know both pretty well.
[07:08] <shubbar> mamece2: ubuntu is updated more
[07:08] <cancuengt> I know that something else might be corrupted or missing something
[07:08] <uwafflesasage> thank you bobtro
[07:08] <uwafflesasage> glad someone understands this
[07:08] <bobstro> uwafflesasage:  enjoy the mustic.
[07:08] <mattgyver> mamece2, Plus its built off debian unstable which is generally cutting edge, unless you wanna run unstalbe which isnt exactly simple
[07:08] <uwafflesasage> GEEZ!
[07:09] <bobstro> uwafflesasage:  er, music
[07:09] <uwafflesasage> god bless you
[07:09] <Cerebr0> I'm assuming Ubuntu has more money backing it up. That's just a guess though
[07:09] <uwafflesasage> everyone
[07:09] <mattgyver> Cerebr0, I think Shuttleworth is still the only guy funding Canonical if i remember right
[07:09] <mamece2> i love this chat, so many answers
[07:09] <Cerebr0> Well he has plenty of money
[07:09] <bobstro> intent is for canonical to be for-profit -- at least at some point -- no?
[07:09] <mattgyver> Yeah, and hes been to space :(
[07:10] <cloudfree> a noble, in other word
[07:10] <Cerebr0> yea enough said lol
[07:10] <dr0id> guys I am on KDE, deleting a simple file takes about 1-2 mins, it used to get deleted at the hit of the delete button fee weeks ago, but for the past 1-2 weeks, I am facing this issue, please help me
[07:10] <Arsic> if you start with a penetration testing central distro such as BT, you might be overwhelmed with the amount of tools or programs. it might be better to start with something more standardized such as ubuntu. if you're doing penetration testing, then you can install some of the tools and learn them at your own pace
[07:10] <mattgyver> bobstro, yeah within the next 3 years, whatever that means
[07:10] <Kartagis> hey
[07:10] <mattgyver> maybe its 5, i dont remember the exact quote
[07:10] <Arsic> like one at a time or something
[07:10] <mamece2> is there picasa for ubuntu?
[07:10] <Cerebr0> yea BT4 has way more tools than anyone would ever use, imo
[07:11] <Kartagis> does mencoder support transcoding to mp4/ev-s *and* embedding subtitles?
[07:11] <bobstro> mamece2:  yes
[07:11] <RudyValencia> How do I open 7z files in Ubuntu?
[07:11] <cancuengt> dr0id: give "$ sudo touch /forcefsck" and then reboot to check if the filesystem is ok
[07:11] <bobstro> mamece2:  not well integrated, but it works like windows
[07:11] <blakkheim> RudyValencia: aptitude -y install p7zip-full
[07:11] <Cerebr0> Rudy download it in software center
[07:11] <RudyValencia> ah
[07:11] <dr0id> cancuengt: whats "$ " for ?
[07:11] <bobstro> mamece2:  the important thing to realize is that linux is linux. you can do just about anything with one as another.
[07:11] <sunder> what's the key combo to log out again?
[07:11] <uwafflesasage> but tit has better cyqgwin
[07:12] <mattgyver> sunder, it use to be crtl+alt+backspace, i dont know if it works anymore unless you enable it
[07:12] <Cerebr0> $ is like the : in dos
[07:12] <cancuengt> dr0id: $ is the terminal (konsole sign)
[07:12] <RudyValencia> thanks
[07:12] <dr0id> cancuengt: ohh, did it, nothing happened, what is it meant to do ?
[07:12] <RudyValencia> I've also installed rar (I have a license for it)
[07:12] <dr0id> shall I reboot my system now ?
[07:13] <mamece2> the difference btw ubuntu  xubuntu and lubuntu are the graphic interface?
[07:13] <mattgyver> mamece2, yeah.
[07:13] <sunder> i need to log out only using tge keyboard, using phone for irc right now
[07:13] <cloudfree> is there lubuntu?
[07:13] <dr0id> cancuengt: deleting still takes same time :(
[07:13] <cancuengt> dr0id: is the promt that tells you that you are ready to input a command. if is $ it tells you that you are an user with no root privileges (secure) if ist # tells that you are an user with root privileges (danterous)
[07:13] <mattgyver> oh i dont know if theres a lubuntu i missed the l ;|
[07:13] <cancuengt> mamece2: mostly
[07:13] <blakkheim> RudyValencia: what do you mean you have a license for it?
[07:13] <mattgyver> mamece2, did you mean kubuntu?
[07:14] <Cerebr0> there is lubuntu
[07:14] <RudyValencia> I bought a license for WinRAR, and can use the Linux version as a registered usre
[07:14] <dr0id> cancuengt: see PM
[07:14] <RudyValencia> *user
[07:14] <blakkheim> oh..
[07:14] <cancuengt> mamece2: The repositories are the same but most information you find for ubuntu and the gnome interface
[07:14] <Cerebr0> there are free programs that will extract from rar for linux
[07:14] <mamece2> u see i did a partition of 20 gigs and the rest is windows. can i revert this? get windows into the lil partition and ubuntu in the main big one
[07:15] <Cerebr0> mamece what version of windows are you using
[07:15] <mattgyver> mamece2, it can be done but its not easy at all.
[07:15] <RudyValencia> I can create rar archives with the rar creation program too
[07:15] <Cerebr0> I think you could use a program like partition magic or partition  wizard that will allow you to resize them
[07:16] <blakkheim> RudyValencia: it's better to use open source archive formats like 7zip or tar, though
[07:16] <RudyValencia> true
[07:16] <mamece2> i think theres Lubuntu too, not?
[07:16] <mattgyver> mamece2, yeah apparently i live in the dark and didnt know about it
[07:16] <Cerebr0> Mamece yes there is Lubuntu, light weight supposedly noever tried it
[07:16] <geekuskhan> if by l you are referring to lxde, then yes I guess
[07:16] <MadCowzGaming> Hey guys, I have a little problem i can't seem to figure out. I am using the SwiftFox Web browser with Adobe Flash Player 10. When watching youtube videos i switch to full screen and my browser crashes immediately. Any ideas? Thanks!
[07:16] <RudyValencia> it was a one-time license charge
[07:16] <Arsic> there's a rar tool in the software center for rars. you can also try peazip (http://peazip.sourceforge.net), pretty sure it supports 7z too.
[07:16] <RudyValencia> so I want to get full use out of itr
[07:17] <mamece2> maybe this q is stupid but how can i go back in mozilla?
[07:17] <RudyValencia> it's okay I've got it all taken care of
[07:17] <RudyValencia> mamece2: alt-back arroe
[07:17] <RudyValencia> *arrow
[07:17] <mamece2> lubuntu is light ubuntu, but i think i meant kubuntu, u r rite
[07:18] <mattgyver> theres like 200 freaking versions of ubuntu really...
[07:18] <mamece2> ^
[07:18] <mattgyver> You start getting into crazy ones like religion distros, education distros...
[07:18] <mamece2> i could make Ñubuntu, ubuntu in spanish
[07:18] <Cerebr0> anyways this is #Ubuntu Support Channel so keep questions to the topic
[07:18] <lucent> mattgyver: Lesbian/GNU parody of Debian....  wasn't that the big publicity one?
[07:19] <mattgyver> lucent, maybe, i never heard of it
[07:20] <mamece2> if i reinstall ubutun i can make the partition bigger without losing files or any config done here?
[07:20] <cancuengt> mamece2: I really want localized versions for installs without inet connection and because for lang packs it must be inet connection or another cd with the packages
[07:20] <cancuengt> how can I check for corruption on an  installed package?
[07:21] <Arsic> mamece2: boot from a livecd and resize the partition using gparted. you won't lose any files. be sure to unmount any related file systems if it's on the extended or primary partitions
[07:21] <mattgyver> mamece2, probably the closest you could come is to backing up /home for application configurations and maybe /etc but /etc you might not want to fully restore
[07:22] <mattgyver> Oh yeah Arsic is spot on if your not using the full disk
[07:22] <lucent> cancuengt: not answering your question exactly, but there's a way to reinstall it, is that helpful?
[07:22] <Cerebr0> Mamece yea don't install again, just boot into live cd and use Gparted
[07:22] <mamece2> mattgiver, arsic way to do it will work?
[07:23] <Arsic> well if you use the live cd, you won't have to reinstall or backup any files
[07:23] <mamece2> so first i backup and delete everythingin windows to free space and then livecd and gpart the disk
[07:24] <mattgyver> mamece2, it will work willing that 1) Your Ubuntu Partition is behind your Windows Partitoin, 2) You have space left next to your Ubuntu partition
[07:24] <cancuengt> lucent: The problem is that I've recently checked my fs with fsck and founded a lot of troubles (and fixed). However i've founded also that later things has changed (eg. eth0 is not up by default on boot)
[07:25] <mamece2> mattgyver, the partition of windows and ubuntu are independent
[07:26] <Cerebr0> when ever resizing or messing with partitions it is always recommended to back up all important data
[07:26] <kneaux> how do i connect to a reverse tunnel? currently computer A has a reverse tunnel with computer B, i need to connect to B, through A, with computer C
[07:26] <Desmo> Thought I may as well ask here as it might be relevant, but has anyone had X/Ubuntu (xfce) playing silly games after install? No panel, no right click, no window functionality?
[07:26] <Desmo> If I log in as root then itś A-OK, but logging in as root is bad, mmmḱay?
[07:27] <mattgyver> mamece2, correct you just need to be sure that your partition table is not |Ubuntu | Windows | Free Space.
[07:27] <xerophyte> could someone help me with nginx question : >how can i write root domain to sub folder for example   rewrite ^/(.*)$ http://domaintest01.com/site$1 permanent; that create loop
[07:27] <cancuengt> lucent: and I really don't want to reinstall all packages (for common sense) or the whole system again :)
[07:27] <jg47hm> if the computer stacks how to make it work again (something like ctrl+alt+del)
[07:27] <lucent> cancuengt: the common sense approach to this is backups and reinstallation of the OS, to be blunt
[07:27] <mamece2> no, it is windows ubuntu
[07:28] <Cerebr0> Remastersys Backup might be worth looking into
[07:28] <Cerebr0> Mamece2 you installed in windows? Wubi?
[07:28] <jg47hm>  if the computer stacks how to make it work again ?(something like ctrl+alt+del)?
[07:28] <Arsic> jg47hm: crtl+alt+t to open a terminal then use top or ps aux to kill the offending process
[07:28] <cancuengt> lucent: I don't like what I'm reading...
[07:29] <cancuengt> lucent:  :(
[07:29] <lucent> truth is sad sometimes
[07:29] <Desmo> no one? :(
[07:29]  * Bridge| cant count the number of fresh installs of ubuntu i've gone through
[07:29] <Bridge|> hehe
[07:29] <cancuengt> lucent: tough want to search for another solution than this one before doing something else next
[07:30] <cancuengt> lucent: or anyway, wait 'till the next distro version upgrade
[07:30] <Bridge|> 90% of my earliest ones were due to Grub(2), hehe
[07:30] <reggi> bobstro, I love you man! Miro is perfect! Now I can finally get all my trance and house music podcasts!!!!!! 8)
[07:30] <mattgyver> Bridge|, your not alone.. it seems after each new release i end up having to do another fresh install.. it gets tiring
[07:31] <Bridge|> yea
[07:31] <xamanu> Hey, what is the name of the designer who made big parts of ubuntu's design. she is from argentina or venezuela.... anybody an idea?
[07:31] <Desmo> sudo userls
[07:31] <xamanu> i forgot the name. they told me some days ago
[07:31] <Cerebr0> i don't plan on upgrading from 10.04, after all it is supported for 3 years where as the 10.10 will only be supported for 18 months
[07:31] <mamece2> cerebr0 no, no wubi, i run the livecd from a pendrive and then installed
[07:32] <Cerebr0> Mamece but is it on its own partition or did you install under windows option?
[07:32] <mamece2> cerebr0 its under its own partition, i choose the option to make its own partition in the free space available
[07:33] <mattgyver> mamece2, you still have free space at the end of your drive?
[07:33] <gazhang> hi1
[07:33] <Cerebr0> well to be honest 20gb is plenty for Ubuntu
[07:33] <mamece2> mattgyver i think
[07:34] <gazhang> wo shi xinshou
[07:34] <jg47hm> Arsic: when im pressing ctrl+alt+t nothings happen?
[07:34] <gazhang> 你好
[07:34] <mamece2> cerebr0 but i have another files in windows and i would like to get them
[07:34] <gazhang> 我是新手
[07:34]  * freshpet runs away
[07:34] <ectospasm> !cn | gazhang
[07:34] <Cerebr0> you can mount your windows partition under ubuntu if i'm not mistaken
[07:34] <_Magick3> ow do I set the monitor settings per user? 10.04
[07:35] <mamece2> cerebr0 iono
[07:35] <gazhang> join #ubuntu-cn
[07:35] <mattgyver> jg47hm, if all else fails you can try to swtich to another tty with Crtl+alt+f2 (f3/f4/f5) and issue a; sudo shutdown -r now
[07:35] <Arsic> jg47hm: it's supposed to open a terminal, but if it's completely locked up you might be SOL. you can also try switching ttys with ctrl+alt+f2 (or any of the f keys)
[07:35] <Cerebr0> ¿Hablas español?
[07:35] <Arsic> bah
[07:36] <_Magick3> How do I set the monitor settings per user? 10.04
[07:36] <lucent> _Magick3: I don't think you do.
[07:36] <lucent> there's a Display Settings panel applet I use
[07:36] <frybye> gazhang - at the start of a line you must do a   /j #ubuntu-cn   ok?
[07:36] <lucent> it seems to forget between users or remembers when I don't want it to
[07:37] <_Magick3> I need to. There must be some per user settings for X.
[07:37] <lucent> It's not X anymore though because the configuration is done via API mechanisms
[07:37] <lucent> i.e. you don't stuff X11 config files these days in Ubuntu, that I am aware of anyhow
[07:37] <_Magick3> I know that I can change settings with xorg.conf
[07:38] <_Magick3> what is the API settings file called?
[07:38] <lucent> classic.
[07:38] <lucent> _Magick3: what I am referring to is the complete lack of a settings file
[07:38] <lucent> it's all done with auto-configuration kung-fu
[07:39] <_Magick3> That is rather a stupid way to do it, as it does not work on my setup.
[07:39] <ectospasm> lucent: xorg.conf still works, it's still X
[07:39] <ectospasm> It's just that the file doesn't exist by default.
[07:39] <_Magick3> xorg has no per user way of setting its setting?
[07:40] <_Magick3> or is there a per users file for xorg that I can make?
[07:40] <Arsic> _Magick3: I think some X settings used to be in ~/.xprofile. not sure it that was pre 9.10 or if it needs to be created
[07:40] <lucent> hey that sounds promising Arsic
[07:40] <Arsic> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[07:41] <_Magick3> I will give it a try.
[07:41] <jg47hm> what it means by  "switching ttys"
[07:42] <mattgyver> jg47hm, to switch your virtual terminal
[07:42] <jg47hm> and what virtual terminal means?
[07:42] <Cerebr0> ttys? talk to you soon?
[07:42] <lucent> TTY means your ... pretend there's say 8 number of screens you can look at from a computer, but it only has one actual physical display
[07:43] <lucent> so you have a mechanism to switch between which one you're looking at
[07:43] <xbonesx> can someone help me fix the purple boat loader screen please?
[07:43] <lucent> The pretty windows And Things (TM) point and click takes up one of those TTYs
[07:44] <lucent> there's probably more, and when you switch to those, you can see what is on them (usually a bunch of text from some program like a login shell or kernel log output)
[07:44] <Hallaj> Hi all
[07:44] <Arsic> xbonesx, you're asking about the plymouth logo screen? what's wrong with it?
[07:45] <Hallaj> If I've set a cron.daily job but my computer is powered off and turned on right after the cron.daily's time, the cronjob wouldn't get performed right?
[07:45] <vaibhav1> How to add image on left side of notification from our code? am using libnotify.
[07:45] <xbonesx> Arsic: well its not showing correct, the only way i can explain it is, you know when you cross your eyes while looking at one thing, it creates two of them, well its doing that plus its all pixilated
[07:46] <Cerebr0> Xbonesx you tried that link I gave you?
[07:46] <xbonesx> Cerebr0: ya and had no luck...
[07:47] <Cerebr0> what did you set the resolution to?
[07:47] <cancuengt> has someone used readed or heard about debsums?
[07:47] <xbonesx> Cerebr0: but i have also installed startupmanager and gnomesplash screen manager too, which i have uninstalled but i dont know if those changed anything...
[07:47] <Arsic> it does sound like a resolution problem
[07:47] <HansGruber> I am so glad Ubuntu is Deblian based, .deb files are much better organized and easy to install than RPM's were for the longest time
[07:47] <xbonesx> Cerebr0: tried native tried one underneath it, tried all the available ones pretty much
[07:48] <Cerebr0> i know on this computer it is 1280x800 but i have problems if i set it that high I had to set it to 1024x768 for some reason
[07:49] <Arsic> xbonesx: I've messed with the resolution of my plymouth logo before, here's a link to how I changed it. (http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml) maybe if you set it to your monitor's native resolution or lower, it might help
[07:49] <xbonesx> Cerebr0: i also have a 64bit system, make any difference?
[07:49] <lucent> Hallaj: correct, only jobs which are scheduled during operation are executed, at least with cron daemons I know about
[07:49] <lucent> xbonesx: hope you've patched up
[07:49] <xbonesx> Arsic: same link Cerebr0 gave me lol
[07:49] <Arsic> damn
[07:49] <lucent> security holes abound for 64-bit Linux
[07:49] <Hallaj> lucent: Thanks for your answer, so far there's no way to counter this right?
[07:49] <Cerebr0> Your problems may have been caused by the start up manager or boot manager, they may have changed some settings
[07:50] <lucent> Hallaj: it's not exactly a problem though
[07:50] <xbonesx> Cerebr0: thats what i was thinking but i dont know how to reverse anything they might have done...
[07:50] <lucent> Hallaj: what you're talking about is not the purpose of most cron daemons
[07:50] <xbonesx> Cerebr0: i thought about searching for where anyfiles may have been layed and deleting or modifing leftover files
[07:51] <xbonesx> Cerebr0: i really would hate to have to reinstall cuz of something simple like this lol
[07:51] <Hallaj> lucent: Well, eg: logrotate wouldn't work properly if the cron doesn't kick in right?
[07:52] <Cerebr0> are you sure you followed the direction on the link exactly? I would recommend tryign it again and setting the resolution to 1024x768 the two places it asks you to do so
[07:52] <xbonesx> but its dumb and now it looks really crappy, as before it just was pixilated and i could still make out the picture
[07:52] <Hallaj> Oh yeah, is there a way to lower the limit of timeout for ESTABLISHED connections?
[07:52] <xbonesx> Cerebr0: will give it another go
[07:52] <Arsic> xbonesx: oh no! you won't have to reinstall the whole OS. maybe if you just reinstalled grub2
[07:52] <xbonesx> Cerebr0: also i have a 1920x1200 res hi-def screen
[07:52] <xbonesx> Arsic: grub2 ???
[07:53] <xbonesx> i thought i had grub, cuz in that link you gave me had just "grub" commands in it...
[07:53] <Arsic> xbonesx: grub2 should be the bootloader. it should also set everything you've changed back to default
[07:53] <xbonesx> incuding stuff to do with plymouth??? cuz my bootmenu for choosing OS's works fine
[07:53] <xbonesx> its that stupid pruple screen
[07:54] <Cerebr0> thats the problem he may have changed some setting with start up manager and or boot up manager
[07:54] <xbonesx> thought plymouth and grub were two different things
[07:54] <xbonesx> Cerebr0: i think thats the case as well
[07:54] <Cerebr0> i wonder if there is a command to reset everything to default?
[07:55] <xbonesx> Cerebr0: i think im goign to reinstall them and find the file locations for them and check to see what might have been changed... what do you think?
[07:55] <xbonesx> Cerebr0: referring to the startupmanager and gnome splash manager
[07:55] <Cerebr0> worth a shot, let me know what you find
[07:55] <Arsic> yeah, pretty sure. not sure if it's part of grub (i could be wrong), but it fixed my boot screen after installing burg
[07:55] <icarus-c>  xbonesx plymouth has nothing to do with grub
[07:56] <xbonesx> icarus-c: didnt think so then why is everyone trying to get me to do changes to the grub??? lol
[07:56] <xbonesx> my grub menu for switching OS's works fine
[07:56] <icarus-c> xbonesx, what they tell you to
[07:56] <xbonesx> icarus-c: its the purple loading screen thats buggy
[07:56] <xbonesx> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[07:56] <Arsic> grub controls some of the resolution settings of the plymouth logo
[07:56] <icarus-c> that is plymouth.
[07:57] <xbonesx> Arsic: you sure?
[07:57] <icarus-c> Arsic, KMS does that
[07:57] <mamatree> Hi, I'm having trouble with mpd "can't connect on localhost" ... it's possibly a complication with pulse audio?  is this a known 10.04 bug?  it's driving me crazy
[07:57] <xbonesx> icarus-c: right but if you read through its all to do with grub commands
[07:57] <icarus-c> or uvesa when without a KMS capable video driver
[07:57] <aSt3raL> does ubuntu 10.4.1 server have a gui?
[07:57] <xbonesx> icarus-c: i have the nvidia driver for my 8600m gt card installed
[07:58] <icarus-c> xbonesx, maybe "quiet splash" ? and remove existing "vga=" option
[07:58] <dugger5688_> aSt3raL: not OOTB, but you can install any number. Including various web interfaces.
[07:58] <xbonesx> icarus-c: ya i did notice that those were included in the setup for the menu.list
[07:58] <aSt3raL> dugger5688, ok thanks
[07:58] <xbonesx> icarus-c: where is that file located btw?
[07:59] <icarus-c> xbonesx, that's all has to do with grub somehow (although they are just kernel options)
[07:59] <icarus-c> xbonesx, read this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/quick-tipplymouth-themes-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[07:59] <xbonesx> icarus-c: i had win7 installed before ubuntu so the boatloader went to the win7 os right?
[07:59] <icarus-c> xbonesx, did you install plymouth theme with apt-get ?
[07:59] <xbonesx> no same thats default
[08:00] <icarus-c> xbonesx, if you installed windows before ubuntu, and you told ubuntu to install grub, it wouldn't go straight to windows loader
[08:01] <xbonesx> icarus-c: no but where would the menu.lst file be?
[08:01] <xbonesx> icarus-c: for the boot parameters?
[08:02] <Chiggins> Hey, so I installed windows after ubuntu, and recovered grub using this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows but now i cant boot into windows since it wont show up in grub... what can i do?
[08:03] <preecher> i kno i probly shouldnt have done but i dloaded the 10.10 beta--now my sound isnt right-when i go to a youtube my sound kinda like hangs and drags if that makes any sense-only thing i know is it says pulse audio---is they any way i can use the old sound whatever it was without havn to reformat and reinstall?
[08:03] <xbonesx> brb
[08:03] <Rishab> hello world...
[08:03] <Arsic> Chiggins: I just boot into live cd, open a terminal sudo -i, then mount /dev/sda5 /mnt (where sda5 contains the location of \boot or your ubuntu install), then grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda (note: not to be confused with /dev/sda5), then sudo update-grub
[08:03] <mamatree> fuck it, ubuntu is for nerds
[08:03] <ayan> all: once i've chosen to create an unecrypted home directory, is there an easy way to migrate it to an encrypted home?
[08:03] <Rishab> Please tell me if we have Nokia PC suit for ubuntu users ?
[08:04] <iceroot> Rishab: no
[08:05] <Chiggins> Arsic - Ah, I guess I just needed to run update-grub ... thanks!
[08:05] <Rishab> my requirement is to use the internet using nokia mobile ?
[08:05] <iceroot> Rishab: network-manager is doing that
[08:05] <Rishab> iceroot do we have any alternative
[08:05] <iceroot> Rishab: nm-aplet (network-manager)
[08:06] <chitti> guys i have java.sh file can any one tell me how can i install that
[08:06] <makulkar> Ubuntu experts, I need to install latest ubuntu on my win7 64-bit machine. My HDD is point-sec protected which means boot time password checkup is present. how hard would it be to install ubuntu?
[08:06] <iceroot> chitti: you want to install java?
[08:07] <chitti> yes in manual form with java.sh file
[08:07] <iceroot> !java | chitti
[08:07] <iceroot> chitti: use the one from the repos
[08:09] <chitti> makulkar remove the cmos battery
[08:09] <preecher> i dloaded the 10.10 beta--any way i can get my "old" sound back without having to do a re-install? now when i go to a youtube video the sound and even the video kinda hangs and drags kind of like a old record skipping and finally picks back up
[08:10] <atude> hey, apparently when I start my system, lxdm, gdm and kdm all start up.. How do I fix that?
[08:11] <rww> preecher: Discussion and support for Ubuntu Maverick is in #ubuntu+1 until it's released.
[08:11] <preecher> rww thx
[08:11] <makulkar> chitti, cmos battery? how would it help?
[08:11] <Arsic> atude: install sysv-rc-conf (is there a default one in ubuntu?), you can remove those services from startup per runlevel
[08:12] <xbonesx> How could i debug startupmanager to see what its actually doing so that i know why it messed things up?
[08:12] <chitti> john smith: system/preference/preferred appl
[08:12] <chitti> Mr.Mahesh if u remove cmos then all the password will be erase at the bias
[08:13] <xev> Hi, all.. I wanna ask for a little help. I want to connect to wireless router using bash.. command: iwconfig wlan0 key mypassword ..but I had an error.. "Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2a) : invalid argument "mypassword" .
[08:14] <atude> chitti: that is not where those settings exist.
[08:15] <chitti> sorry john i thought that it might be what u want
[08:15] <DarkRedman> Hi, I've a several problem, I'm on a LiveCD I try to recover encrypted date from my hard drive, I followed the specifications here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering%20Your%20Data%20Manually and I did this command : ecryptfs-mount-private but I still have an error "ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly".
[08:15] <DarkRedman> I'm on this problem since few hours, It's unbearable. And I really need to fix it as soon as possible
[08:15] <thune3> makulkar: this sounds like a tricky enough situation to either consider running ubuntu in a VM or installing to a 2nd drive (being careful to put grub on the SECOND drive, using bios to select boot drive).
[08:16] <makulkar> thune3, you mean external USB drive?
[08:17] <thune3> makulkar: either a 2nd internal drive or external. sounds like point-sec needs to have something in the MBR, so any solution should probably NOT touch the MBR of the primary drive.
[08:17] <makulkar> thune3, true, no slot for another internal drive so sounds to me external :(
[08:17] <thune3> makulkar: there may be a way to do it on a single drive, but that would be advanced.
[08:17] <makulkar> thune3, thanks for your help!
[08:18] <makulkar> thune3, ok. Do you know if I can install VM which can use 64 bit machine capabilities?
[08:19] <thune3> makulkar: be very very very careful if you install to external drive to make sure the MBR goes to the external drive (this is NOT the default on 10.04, but 10.04.1 has default in the right place but check anyway)
[08:20] <thune3> makulkar: i've never set up ubuntu in a VM, i assume 64-bit ubuntu on 64-bit windows is doable. Someone else here may have better info.
[08:24] <mythion> can anyone help me with LIRC
[08:25] <atude> everytime GDM starts, the preferences menu opens and I have no idea how to stop that
[08:34] <makulkar> is there a VMWare image of ubuntu 10.04 for 64bit machines? google did not help me much :(
[08:34] <etheretic> 'lo
[08:35] <iceroot> makulkar: not an official one
[08:35] <etheretic> anyone know how to resolve iowait issues?
[08:37] <makulkar> iceroot, can you point me to unofficial image only? :)
[08:37] <_ruben> etheretic: buy faster disks
[08:37] <iceroot> makulkar: no sorry i dont know if there are images, so i would be using google only
[08:38] <_ruben> downloading a vmware image would probably take longer than downloading the install cd and run the installation :p
[08:38] <iceroot> makulkar: why not using the normal cd and create an image by our own? must faster then searching for an image + downloading it
[08:38] <dhruvasagar> Hey, can I install a 32 bit binary on my 64 bit ubuntu by any means ?
[08:38] <iceroot> dhruvasagar: sure
[08:39] <dhruvasagar> anyone here uses guitar pro ?
[08:39] <dhruvasagar> iceroot: how ?
[08:39] <_ruben> dhruvasagar: sure, but you'll need some compatibility libraries
[08:39] <etheretic> _ruben: a wd 1.5 tb elements isn't known to be slow, afaik. hdparm -Tt gives decent results.
[08:39] <_ruben> like ia32-libs for starters
[08:39] <iceroot> dhruvasagar: just installing it, the architectur doesnt matter (if you dont have dependencies on 64bit libs)
[08:39] <_ruben> etheretic: sounds like external disk, perhaps your usb is busted?
[08:39] <dhruvasagar> _ruben: ok
[08:40] <dhruvasagar> iceroot: just installing it ? often i've seen when I try to install a deb meant for 32 bit it says that the deb is for a different architecture and doesn't allow me
[08:40] <lucent> hey speaking of, I am curious does everyone enjoy tap-to-click feature on trackpad / laptop installs?
[08:41] <dhruvasagar> iceroot: guitar pro 6 is available for ubuntu, but afaik its only for 32 bit, so I was thinking if I should buy or not...
[08:41] <lucent> I turned mine off in session preferences, but it's still active at GDM login screen and I'd rather it not
[08:41] <makulkar> iceroot, I need vmware image for my windows7 64bit machine
[08:41] <dhruvasagar> lucent: how do you enable that !?
[08:41] <makulkar> iceroot, im not sure whre what you mean by creating one with CD
[08:41] <dhruvasagar> makulkar: afaik you can use an 'iso' image
[08:41] <lucent> dhruvasagar: with my setup the tap-to-click setting was on by default, I toggled it to disabled with the System | Preferences | Mouse
[08:41] <iceroot> makulkar: download the ubuntu-cd start it with vmware and create an ubuntu vmware-image
[08:42] <lucent> and then on the Trackpad tab or something like this
[08:42] <etheretic> _ruben: nope. ran smart diagnostic; 'tis fine.
[08:42] <NotMyOwn> Hey, can anyone help me with a conky issue?
[08:42] <makulkar> iceroot, ok I have ubuntu cd for 10.04. Let me try creating a image
[08:42] <dhruvasagar> lucent: ok, so why can't you revert the settings ?
[08:43] <iceroot> makulkar: just boot from the cd with vmware
[08:43] <etheretic> _ruben: running iotop, get error CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT not enabled in kernel, cannot determine SWAPIN and IO %
[08:43] <dhruvasagar> anyone on the guitar pro 6 thing ?
[08:43] <dhruvasagar> I already use tux guitar and its quite good, but guitar pro 6 is really a lot better ...
[08:44] <lucent> dhruvasagar: my settings are okay, except there is a bigger problem for me.  I don't understand how could I turn on/off tap-to-click in GDM login screen before I am logged into my session?
[08:44] <_ruben> etheretic: smart doesnt care about usb afaik, and i hardly ever (if ever at all) use iotop, usualyy just stick to iostat
[08:44] <dhruvasagar> lucent: Ohh...I don't think that would be possible
[08:44] <Syria> Hi, How can I make sure that my computer is malware free ?
[08:44] <lucent> inside the session on/off works to enable disable the tap-to-click, but not affecting GDM
[08:44] <lucent> Syria: turn it off, throw out the window?
[08:45] <dhruvasagar> lucent: lol
[08:45] <NotMyOwn> Does anyone know why if I use own_window_type desktop with conky, it works but then it closes as soon as I click on the desktop?
[08:45] <Syria> lucent: Are we talking abut the same Malware!?
[08:45] <terminhell> hi all
[08:45] <dhruvasagar> Syria: do you mean ubuntu ? it's already malware free
[08:45] <etheretic> _ruben: just gives a snapshot, not dynamic updates?
[08:46] <Syria> dhruvasagar: You may catch Malwares even if you are using ubuntu.
[08:46] <lucent> Syria: I know of *no* secure desktop environment
[08:46] <lucent> so basically, you have a valid question and I replied a silly answer
[08:46] <dhruvasagar> Syria: not really...can you give an example ?
[08:46] <freshpet> especailly, they are built-in
[08:46] <freshpet> but you have choice to remove them
[08:46] <lucent> dhruvasagar: local root escalation exploit via lib32 ?
[08:46] <Syria> dhruvasagar: i can't but some ne in #ubuntu-offtopic told me.
[08:46] <etheretic> lucent: risc os?
[08:47] <_ruben> etheretic: it gives per-disk stats, not per-process .. you can specify the interval as a param, i tend to use: sudo iostat -m -x 2 (or 5 depending on detailed info i want)
[08:47] <lucent> etheretic: 16 million colors.  14.4kbs modem. hack the planet.
[08:47] <dhruvasagar> lucent: hmm don't know about that...
[08:47] <dhruvasagar> anybody here hacking on android ?
[08:47] <lucent> dhruvasagar: it's only the biggest embarassment I've ever seen from Linux Kernel release maintainers
[08:47] <iceroot> dhruvasagar: #android
[08:48]  * freshpet covers ears
[08:48] <lucent> I mean, besides Linus releasing the first draft of Linux
[08:48] <lucent> that was scary.
[08:48] <dhruvasagar> iceroot: well I meant more like hacking android from ubuntu...
[08:48] <antIP> Lucent: root escalation is not the same as malware.
[08:48] <iceroot> dhruvasagar: doesnt matter if you "hack" android with ubuntu, windows, mac os or something like that, so #android is the correct place
[08:49] <antIP> lucent: true, and it was patched like same day.
[08:49] <dhruvasagar> iceroot: but I don't want to know how to hack android...
[08:49] <lucent> antIP: patched for whom?
[08:49] <maco> dhruvasagar: there was a trojan posted to gnome-look.org some months back, so if you consider "the user trusted something they shouldnt have and manually installed it"... then yes, there is malware for linux based systems
[08:49] <antIP> lucent apparently not for you.
[08:50] <dhruvasagar> iceroot: anyways i'll rephrase
[08:50] <lucent> antIP: no lib32 here ;)32
[08:50] <Syria> !info vim-tiny | dhruvasagar
[08:50] <freshpet> i only care about malware which is signatured by canonical
[08:50] <dhruvasagar> Syria: what was that for ?
[08:50] <lucent> dhruvasagar: sport... I imagine.
[08:50] <Syria> dhruvasagar: Malware tool.
[08:50] <lucent> o_O what
[08:50] <dhruvasagar> hmmm
[08:51] <dhruvasagar> lucent: hmm
[08:51] <lucent> dhruvasagar: are we being trolled?
[08:51] <dhruvasagar> maco: interesting
[08:51] <dhruvasagar> lucent: i wouldn't know :)
[08:51] <lucent> I just don't know anymore. Le sigh.
[08:52] <maco> Syria: malware tool? vim's a text editor...
[08:52] <maco> (though on the other hand, if i were going to write malware, i'd use vim...because if i'm going to write any code, i use vim)
[08:52] <dhruvasagar> maco: he actually mentioned vim-tiny
[08:52] <etheretic> _ruben: avg cpu iowait is horrendous - oscillating between 20-80%.
[08:52] <maco> dhruvasagar: which is just vim without any of the good features :P
[08:53] <dhruvasagar> maco: i think ubottu didn't really describe vim-tiny
[08:53] <lucent> etheretic: any chance it's btrfs?
[08:53] <dhruvasagar> weird
[08:53] <dhruvasagar> Syria: how is vim-tiny a malware ?
[08:53] <maco> dhruvasagar: yeah it did...it gave the short description from the package
[08:53] <lucent> just remember a blurb about btrfs being regression in performance due to corner case
[08:53] <_ruben> etheretic: in my experience that'd be related to broken disk and/or broken controller, or when "lucky": too much IO for the disk to be able to handle
[08:53] <etheretic> lucent: ext3.
[08:53] <Syria> dhruvasagar: I am asking the guy who told me this, one second please.
[08:54] <iceroot> dhruvasagar: vim-tiny is not a malware of course
[08:54] <dhruvasagar> okok
[08:54] <maedox> I guess you could use vim to write some malware code :P
[08:54] <dhruvasagar> maedox: or maybe you could write a vim script / plugin that could be a malware :P
[08:54] <freshpet> a nano is enough
[08:55] <etheretic> _ruben: don't think it's broken - "feels" right,  quite new.
[08:55] <maco> maedox: yeah thats what i said
[08:55] <lucent> dhruvasagar: you can also depress the accelerator pedal on a Toyota automobile and claim it did so against your will
[08:55] <maco> Syria: rww is just being silly
[08:55] <Syria> maco: sure he is.
[08:55] <maco> Syria: you havent learned the ways of #ubuntu-offtopic yet
[08:55] <dhruvasagar> lucent: what ?
[08:56] <_ruben> etheretic: pastebin a few iostat samples (eg: iostat -m -x 2 and leave it running for 20 secs)
[08:56] <lucent> where do we just say, hey, user error. Enough of it.
[08:56] <etheretic> _ruben: too much io: basicaly amule. it doesn't demand 20mbs... ;
[08:56] <Syria> maco: what ways dude?
[08:56] <maco> Syria: if you ask a technical question in that channel. you'll get a lie for an answer as punishment for asking there instead of here
[08:56] <etheretic> errr.
[08:56] <Syria> maco: I see. :(
[08:56] <_ruben> etheretic: bandwidth is the least common bottleneck for disks, lots of small IO per second are killer though
[08:56] <etheretic> !pastebin
[08:56] <dhruvasagar> maco: lol
[08:57] <Syria> maco: I asked here first, but I heard about malware first time in that channel so i asked again there.
[08:57] <dhruvasagar> Syria: I think maybe you should get back to the original question ;)
[08:58] <_joey> is there minimal iso netinstall?
[08:58] <maco> Syria: *puts on ubuntu developer hat* we check the stuff that goes into the repositories, so if its in the repos, you can generally trust its not out-and-out malware, and isn't doing anything too stupid (though code-auditing skills vary from dev to dev). when you get things from random places on the internet, however, you are taking a risk by installing them *takes off developer hat*
[08:58] <maco> !mini | _joey
[08:58] <iceroot> _joey: yes
[08:59] <Syria> dhruvasagar: I think I will start using suse because channel operators don't make such silly jokes.
[08:59] <dhruvasagar> Syria: oh that sounds like suse channel operators are boring :P
[08:59] <rww> Syria: I'm not a channel operator.
[08:59] <iceroot> !ot
[09:00] <etheretic> _ruben: http://paste.ubuntu.com/501348/
[09:00] <antIP> Syria: They have channel operators in Suse? Last time I was there it was a ghost town.
[09:00] <lucent> should have been Levity Lynx
[09:00] <Syria> antIP: it is not a ghost town.
[09:01] <antIP> Syria: Ok. I'm going there right now.
[09:01] <lucent> etheretic: delayed allocation might have something to do with ext3 problems in conjunction with large file transfers from multiple chunks...  ala BitTorrent or amule
[09:01] <dhruvasagar> hey guys, I just found this 'sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture Downloads/GuitarPro6-r7840.deb' so can anyone elaborate a little on the effects of the --force-architecture ?
[09:01] <lucent> etheretic: wild guessing sorry if I'm just noise
[09:01] <iceroot> dhruvasagar: its just ignoring, that the package is for another architecture
[09:02] <etheretic> lucent: not just noise, b assured. :)
[09:02] <dhruvasagar> iceroot: can you just have a look at this link - http://getsatisfaction.guitar-pro.com/arobas_music/topics/do_you_plan_to_release_a_64_bit_version_of_guitar_pro_6 ?
[09:02] <lucent> etheretic: I had some wild problems with Transmission BT and large (hundred gigabyte) torrent transfers
[09:03] <iceroot> dhruvasagar: yes, that is the common way
[09:03] <lucent> the fix was to allocate files beforehand, otherwise I/O was going high activity and preventing the system from functioning normally
[09:03] <etheretic> lucent: run amule temp/torrent incoming on two different external disks.
[09:03] <dhruvasagar> iceroot: ok cool, thanks
[09:03] <aSt3raL> so i installed ubuntu server 10.4.1
[09:03] <aSt3raL> and its been on 21% of wiping swap for 15 min now
[09:03] <lucent> yikes external interfaces?
[09:04] <lucent> aSt3raL: which filesystem?
[09:04] <aSt3raL> ext4
[09:04] <lasindi> Hi all, this is a real newbie VPN question. I want to connect to a VPN using Network Manager, but all I know about my connection is the gateway (I think). I've been connecting with Cisco's AnyConnect client in Windows, and I can't figure out what the "Group Name" for my connection is. Is there a simple way to do this?
[09:04] <lasindi> (I've also been looking for a .pcf file in Windows, but can't find it ...)
[09:05] <lucent> lasindi: good luck with that one
[09:05] <aSt3raL> i can reboot it?
[09:05] <Strange_dejavu> hi all
[09:05] <Strange_dejavu> :D
[09:05] <michel> salut
[09:05] <lucent> lasindi: sounds like the same config questions I had last time messing with it
[09:05] <aSt3raL> the (this could take a while) is a bit overdue for a % change
[09:05]  * freshpet hides his elite pcf files
[09:06] <lasindi> lucent, haha, is the group name a secret held by the admin? I'm trying to connect to my university.
[09:06] <lucent> aSt3raL: might be stuck, might just be in iowait hell
[09:06] <stix> Hi guys. I have created a vpn-connection in System -> Prefs -> Network Connections - but where do I connect it?
[09:06] <michel> en français
[09:06] <rww> !fr | michel
[09:06] <lucent> lasindi: I wish memory worked better in my brain, or I would share what I know
[09:06] <aSt3raL> lucent, hard reset aye
[09:06] <lucent> lasindi: it's not terribly bad to google search, let me try
[09:07] <lucent> aSt3raL: try again mate with something well tested, say ext3 fs
[09:07] <etheretic> _ruben: what do you make of it?
[09:07] <_ruben> at5l: sdc is the "problematic" disk i assume? 114 reads/sec, that's pretty much the max you can expect from a sata disk, especially over usb
[09:08] <lucent> the logical thing will be to try again and make a change.   If you just try again repeatedly changing nothing expecting a different result, see definition of "insanity"
[09:08] <_ruben> average request size is 8, so *something* is doing "a lot" of "small" IOs on the disk
[09:08] <colton__> whois
[09:08] <_ruben> err that was meant for etheretic, not at5l
[09:09] <freshpet> _ruben: a ram disk can require 10000+ iops, but my old box is still working without a delay
[09:09] <Bingo> exit
[09:09] <colton__> whois Oli``
[09:09] <_ruben> etheretic: iotop should be able to tell which process does the most io (no need for the percentages and stuff like that to work)
[09:09] <dhruvasagar> stix: if you click on the network connections icon you will have the VPN option as well, you can then click on the connection
[09:09] <_ruben> freshpet: but it's not a ramdisk, its an usb disk ;)
[09:09] <colton__> exit
[09:09] <etheretic> _ruben: gotcha. tweak number of amule connects, maybe?
[09:10] <strange_kaskuser> kok podo ngomong bahasa inggris kabeh iki
[09:10] <stix> dhruvasagar, yes and then what after I click the connection? There's no "connect" button?
[09:10] <freshpet> _ruben: so, the point is not there
[09:10] <strange_kaskuser> asuuuuuu heh jo ngomong inggris
[09:11] <_ruben> etheretic: that *might* help, i know nothing about emule's disk pattern
[09:11] <_ruben> etheretic: perhaps it has an option to use (more) memory caching?
[09:11] <stix> dhruvasagar, oh I see now, another icon
[09:11] <dhruvasagar> stix: I am talking about the icon in your notification area
[09:11] <dhruvasagar> stix: which you use to connect to your wifi etc
[09:12] <stix> yes I see now
[09:12] <dhruvasagar> stix: cool
[09:12] <aSt3raL> is there a dev channel?
[09:12] <stix> and the connection fails, but with absolutely no info about why
[09:12] <glebihan> aSt3raL: ubuntu dev channel ?
[09:13] <dhruvasagar> stix: hmmm
[09:13] <aSt3raL> bug with install
[09:13] <glebihan> aSt3raL: ask your question here
[09:13] <freshpet> what bug?
[09:14] <paolob> Hi guys! I received a zip file from a windows user, the filenames have foreign characters, and file-roller doesn't extract them. Is there a workaround?
[09:14] <al1as> fdsfdsfdsfd
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> paolob: use terminal, unzip filenme   use tab to complete it
[09:14] <aSt3raL> installed latest version of ubuntu server.. 10.4.1
[09:14] <al1as> hey guys
[09:14] <aSt3raL> it hung on wiping swap
[09:14] <al1as> need some help with file type identification
[09:14] <al1as> CE.CEX: (format \235qK)
[09:14] <aSt3raL> hard reset.. wont boot
[09:15] <freshpet> ...
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> aSt3raL: is that during install or is the OS installed?
[09:15] <bullgard4> http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/power/basic-pm-debugging.txt: "freezer - test the freezing of processes. -- Failure at this level usually means that there is a problem with the tasks freezer subsystem that should be reported." Where can I find a description of the 'tasks freezer subsystem'?
[09:15] <aSt3raL> hang was wiping swap (21%) for 20 min
[09:15] <etheretic> _ruben: should maybe not expect blistering performance from an acer aspire 150 notebook.
[09:15] <aSt3raL> i did a hard reset and the box wouldnt boot
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> paolob: you will need to use the cd command to chnge directory for the one containing the file
[09:16] <_ruben> etheretic: that too, acer isn't known for high speed/quality/etc in my personal book
[09:16]  * freshpet gives aSt3raL a screwdriver
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> aSt3raL: but did you get the OS installed ok and this is the first boot to it, or is this during install?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> _ruben: +1 acer == cheap
[09:16] <aSt3raL> the install didnt finish
[09:16] <paolob> ActionParsnip, ?!? my problem is that I cannot decompress the zip file in which the filenames have non-ascii characters
[09:16] <etheretic> _ruben: asus eee better?
[09:17] <thune3> bullgard4: maybe http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/cgroups/freezer-subsystem.txt
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> aSt3raL: ok then did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded? Did you check the CD for defects once booted? Did you burn as slowly as possible?
[09:17] <_ruben> etheretic: solely based on gutfeeling: yes .. i have no hands-on experience with either
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> paolob: the terminal will still see it
[09:17] <aSt3raL> i verified the cd yeah
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> paolob: if you move the file to a folder on its own then pressing tab after the unzip command will type it for you as it is the only file available
[09:18] <thune3> bullgard4: or if you have kernel-source it is in ./Documentation/cgroups/freezer-subsystem.txt from root of source
[09:18] <etheretic> Does anyone use blu-ray for backup?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> aSt3raL: once you boot the CD and you see the stickman, press space and select check CD for defects, have you done this?
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | etheretic
[09:19] <bullgard4> thune3: I am reading the articles which you suggested.
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> paolob: you could alternatively rename it in terminal then extract it as you do in gui
[09:19] <etheretic> ActionParsnip: twas my secondq.
[09:20] <etheretic> ActionParsnip: unrelated, even.
[09:21] <freshpet> i am curious. what character can't be held by utf-8?
[09:21] <glebihan> etheretic: the point is not that it was your first question, but that you should ask a precise question rather than just asking if someone is using something
[09:23] <etheretic> glebihan: what is the diff? a simple "yes" or "no", preferrably why, shuld suffice. Just want to ensure i'm not wasting a bundle on a blu-ray burner i can't use.
[09:24] <etheretic> (witout buying nero)
[09:24] <bobthemilkman> Is there any way to "undelete" a file in reiserfs?
[09:24] <Syria> maco: What should i do after installing tripwire please?
[09:24] <thune3> bullgard4: that might be a part of freezing-subsystem specific to cgroups, there is also Documentation/power/freezing-of-tasks.txt
[09:25] <maco> Syria: i think you leave it alone til it tells you "omg something changed!!!" and then you go figure out whether that thing that changed was a bad thing or a you-installed-updates thing
[09:25] <blakkheim> when i SSH in, i see the MOTD, but when i SFTP in, i don't - is there a way to show motd to sftp users too?
[09:25] <glebihan> etheretic: those are just general rules on how to ask questions in order to get useful answers, asking "is it possible to...", rather that "does anybody..." will generally help you get an answer
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> etheretic: a HDD to backup to will be alot more reliable and cheaper imho
[09:26] <Syria> maco: Thnx again.
[09:26] <expljoesion> Hello everyone
[09:26] <Syria> expljoesion: hello
[09:26] <etheretic> glebihan: would "does lucid support blu-ray burning?" pass?
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> !hi | expljoesion
[09:27] <glebihan> etheretic: yes it would
[09:27] <expljoesion> I installed ubuntu 2 days ago
[09:27] <expljoesion> I must say, I'm really enjoying it
[09:27] <xbonesx> does anyone know how to tell what the vga="this number" is supposed to be?
[09:27] <xbonesx> mine is 779
[09:27] <xbonesx> 0x779
[09:27] <etheretic> ActionParsnip: want something which is impervious to emp.
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> etheretic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning
[09:28] <glebihan> etheretic: and don't take that kind of remarks as a reproach, it's just intended to help you
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> etheretic: do you have a lot of EMP?
[09:28] <baseem> hi
[09:28] <etheretic> ActionParsnip: othervise i'd concur $/mb-vise.
[09:28] <baseem> I need help
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> !details | baseem
[09:29] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: do you know what the different "vga=ox***" number mean?
[09:29] <etheretic> glebihan: s'okay.
[09:29] <baseem> problem is with (i think) vga card driver
[09:30] <etheretic> ActionParsnip: err. google "carrington event" .
[09:30] <glebihan> !details | baseem
[09:30] <quibbler> etheretic-> look here: http://theubuntunews.blogspot.com/2010/06/install-k3b-200-in-ubuntu-lucid.html
[09:30] <seidos> is the ext2/3/4 file systems a part of the linux kernel?
[09:30] <baseem> since I can not get resolution above 960 x 600
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> xbonesx: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gensplash  75% of the way down, found it with bing.
[09:31] <andialbrecht> hi, maybe that's a stupid question, but how can I change the screen on which the notification bubbles pop up?
[09:31] <rww> seidos: yes
[09:31] <glebihan> baseem: what's your graphics chip model ?
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> etheretic: wow thats a whole 300 years ago
[09:31] <baseem> problem is with (i think) vga card driver since I can not get resolution above 960 x 600, running ubuntu 10.04
[09:31] <baseem> chip (i think ) is sis 964
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> baseem: if you run: lspci | grep -i vga    you will b shown
[09:32] <etheretic> ActionParsnip: more like 130-ish, afaicr.
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> etheretic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859
[09:32] <etheretic> spot on.
[09:33] <baseem> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> etheretic: you are also forgetting its the most powerful, EVER
[09:33] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: do you know what the 1920x1200x64 would be?
[09:33] <xbonesx> 3FF???
[09:33] <maedox> xbonesx: where did you find that? It's a number to tell which resolution and color depth to set.
[09:33] <etheretic> ActionParsnip: weren't any electrical systems to zap b4 then... 8)
[09:33] <xbonesx> maedox: yes
[09:34] <xbonesx> when you boot from grub it presets this stuff for you but sometimes not at the correct one...
[09:34] <baseem> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[09:34] <xbonesx> mine is set to 779
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> baseem: you'll need an xorg.conf file. There is a sample one here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-571530.html    you can remove all the keyboard / mouse stuff
[09:34] <baseem> how to remove?
[09:35] <killer999> any application that support metalinks downloads in ubuntu
[09:35] <maedox> xbonesx: and that's not working? there is a command to find all those numbers but I can't remember it.
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> xbonesx: i use this: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/    you can just set the res you like uses the fb driver
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> baseem: remove what?
[09:36] <lucent> maedox: something to do with vde, I imagine
[09:36] <lucent> "modes"
[09:36] <lorenzocabrini> why does ubuntu insist on removing me from the audio group every shutdown -r?
[09:36] <lucent> my mistake wrong accronymn
[09:36] <lucent> lorenzocabrini: huh?
[09:37] <lucent> lorenzocabrini: are you uh... how are you adding yourself?
[09:37] <baseem> you said at the end of last statement "  you can remove all the keyboard / mouse stuff"
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> lorenzocabrini: i'm not in the 'audio' group: http://pastie.org/1183913
[09:37] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: when i run the livecd it shows at its full res, and doesnt include the vga=0x*** line, should i remove it from the installed grub line to get full res?
[09:37] <maedox> xbonesx: are you sure you need it? It should be deprecated in grub2 (karmic and up)
[09:37] <lorenzocabrini> lucent: usermod -aG
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> baseem: It's text, copy the the xorg.conf then use the delete key on the keyboard to remove all the text relating to mouse and keyboard
[09:38] <lorenzocabrini> ActionParsnip: if you use pulseaudio, you shouldn't be.
[09:38] <xbonesx> maedox: ya it was auto set too 0x0779 but the res i get from that is less than if i ran the livecd, i want it to be a clear as the live cds boot
[09:38] <lucent> lorenzocabrini: try uh, groupadd username groupname
[09:38] <lucent> I think?
[09:38] <lucent> wait, messed up
[09:39] <lorenzocabrini> lucent: usermod -aG should work fine.
[09:39] <lucent> lorenzocabrini: it's addgroup username groupname
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> lorenzocabrini: doesnt seem to be running, guess the Lubuntu guys took it out :)
[09:39] <maedox> useradd user group
[09:39] <lucent> oh
[09:39] <lucent> maedox: you are right
[09:39] <adv_> is there a tool to enable/disable running services/daemons?
[09:39] <baseem> I do not know how to open my xorg.conf file
[09:39] <lucent> I'm just tired and bad at this
[09:39] <xbonesx> even 1920x1200x32 would be fine
[09:39] <lorenzocabrini> ActionParsnip: good for the lubuntu guys :)
[09:39] <lucent> adv_: "service" from command line is one
[09:40] <xbonesx> whats the vga code for 1920x1200x32 ???
[09:40] <adv_> lucent, no i mean with a full list of running apps
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> xbonesx: not sure then, you'll need to take some action though to get it rocking. I use that guide to make mine run at a decent res and on nvidia based rigs (most of mine are) I have to use it or I get no boot splash
[09:40] <xbonesx> 37D???
[09:40] <lorenzocabrini> however, I want to be part of the audio group, i add myself, but every time I reboot, I have to re-add myself.
[09:40] <maedox> xbonesx: maybe this will help you: http://harrison3001.blogspot.com/2009/09/grub-2-graphical-boot-tips-to-set.html
[09:40] <lucent> adv_: task manager kind of thing?
[09:40] <lorenzocabrini> surely I, not ubuntu, should decide which groups i am a part of.
[09:40] <lucent> in Gnome it'd be called System Monitor
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> xbonesx: there is no x32 afaik, 32bit in windows is 24 in linux
[09:41] <lucent> adv_: 'gnome-system-monitor'
[09:41] <adv_> lucent, but for startup. which daemons should be run on startup
[09:41] <lucent> lorenzocabrini: hush, try adduser 'username' 'group'
[09:41] <lucent> reboot, see if that worked
[09:41] <lucent> if it did not work, then we have a problem
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> xbonesx: just add it as a boot option in /etc/default/grub   you'll need the extra packages defined in that guide
[09:42] <lorenzocabrini> lucent: adduser adds a new user, i have a user already
[09:42] <lucent> lorenzocabrini: it alternately adds a user to a group
[09:42] <baseem> I do not know if I said the ubuntu I run is desktop not server
[09:42] <lucent> lorenzocabrini: manual page says so
[09:43] <lorenzocabrini> lucent: but i am a member of the group already, i want to make it permanent
[09:43]  * lucent facepalms
[09:43] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: I did that in the file but it still doesnt show at 1920x1200, think it maxes at 1600x1200, but i also have already installed and uninstalled startupmanager that had a gui for setting to 1600x1200, so i think that think is overriding the res setting
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> baseem: if you are talking about screen res, it is desktop
[09:43] <baseem> ok
[09:43] <xbonesx> think that thing*
[09:43] <baseem> now how to open the xorg.conf file?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> xbonesx: then I am unsure, did you install the extra packages the guide advises?
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> baseem: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:44] <james333james> join #debian
[09:44] <lorenzocabrini> ahother thing though, ubuntu keeps creating ~/Scrivania (~/Desktop) for me. But I rmdir:ed it because I don't want it.
[09:44] <xbonesx> i dont know what files the startupmanager was editing when changing the res's of the grub? does anyone know
[09:44] <lorenzocabrini> is there a place i can configure it to stop with this behavior.
[09:44] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: what guide again?
[09:45] <lorenzocabrini> i already have my own scripts to make sure my home directory looks the way i want, don't need ubuntu to poke in.
[09:45] <lucent> xbonesx: grub config is generated from and uses /etc/default/grub
[09:45] <lucent> I think
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> xbonesx: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/
[09:45] <lucent> after that run 'update-grub'
[09:45] <lucent> you can tag on extra kernel args that way
[09:46] <maedox> lorenzocabrini: ~/Desktop is the folder where your desktop launchers reside. It will always be auto-created even if you don't have anything on the desktop.
[09:46] <lorenzocabrini> maedox: that is silly, I don't need it.
[09:47] <lorenzocabrini> maedox: i don't run any tool that draws icons on the root window
[09:47] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: yes i have followed that TUT, but like i said i think startupmanager files are overriding somewhere in the system...
[09:47] <baseem> ok, now I copy/pasted the text (file) and deleted the keyboard and mouse sections, should I also remove the "WACOM" sections?
[09:47] <maedox> lorenzocabrini: root? Are you logging in as root?
[09:48] <lorenzocabrini> no, i log in as myself.
[09:48] <nunya> I made an ubuntu startup thumb drive using startup creator in 10.04, but I can't boot up a lie cd from it, just intall the whole os...
[09:48] <lorenzocabrini> maedox: log in as myself. when i want x, startx.
[09:49] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: do you know the progress of the theming for grub2?
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> xbonesx: the files for grub will be used to determine grub's resolution
[09:49] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: last i heard it was still in development?
[09:49] <xbonesx> ok
[09:49] <xbonesx> i will check again
[09:49] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: do you know the progress of the theming for grub2?
[09:49] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: last i heard it was still in development?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> xbonesx: http://linux.aldeby.org/configure-grub2-options-and-background.html
[09:50] <baseem> ok, now I copy/pasted the text (file) and deleted the keyboard and mouse sections, should I also remove the "WACOM" sections????
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> xbonesx: hardly worth it imho, the screen is only displayed for about 3 seconds
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> baseem: sure, if you don't use tablets etc
[09:52] <jatt> how can I check the change log of the last package upgrade done on my system?
[09:52] <hasibullah> hi every body how to install drivers in ubuntu if a hardware is not installed
[09:52] <jatt> the changelog of each one of the packages upgraded?
[09:53] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: good point but its more about the eyecandy, not staring at the same lame screen all the time, a nice GUI makes everything better lmao
[09:53] <adv_> is there a tool that lets me setup which daemons i want to run on startup? with a current available list or smth?
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> xbonesx: your call
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> xbonesx: i guess if you have nothing better to tweak
[09:54] <lucent> adv_: No.
[09:54] <baseem> also my monitor is Acer 713, should I change the name, and what other detailes?
[09:54] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: do you know of the project or where downloads are located for the themes of grub2?
[09:54] <lucent> adv_: The tool is you.
[09:54] <adv_> lucent, how can i do it then?
[09:54] <lucent><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:54] <lucent> upstart is much simpler than you can possibly imagine.
[09:54] <maedox> lorenzocabrini: « gconftool-2 --type boolean --set /apps/nautilus/preferences/desktop_is_home_dir true »
[09:54] <misse-> I would say it's more graphically pleasing to run burg than trying to theme upp grub2 :P
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> xbonesx: no idea, grub doesn't interest me as I single boot systems so I never have to see it
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> sure but burg is unofficial
[09:55] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: good point, i havent weened myself off of win7 yet lol
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> but it can look nicer than grub2
[09:55] <baseem> also my monitor is Acer 713, should I change the name, and what other detailes?
[09:55] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: burg?
[09:55] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: is that the theme name?
[09:56] <lucent> adv_: in more clarity, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1351501
[09:56] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: or project name?
[09:56] <adv_> thanks lucent
[09:56] <Rickardo1> Must php files have 644 or is it enough that www-data has read access? 600
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> xbonesx: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_BAyAclZ9g
[09:56] <baseem> ActionParsnip: also my monitor is Acer 713, should I change the name, and what other detailes?
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> xbonesx: its GRUB backwards, it's an alternate (and unofficial) boot loader
[09:57] <maedox> Rickardo1: In a production environment they should most probably not be readable by everyone.
[09:57] <Rickardo1> maedox: ok, But everywhere ppl say 644 but I think 600 is better?
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> baseem: if you like, if you change the identifier you MUST change the identifier in the other sections too or it won't work. It's only aesthetic so I wouldn't worry too much
[09:57] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: ah, i was speaking of the actual themes for grub2, one sec i get a link
[09:59] <baseem> ActionParsnip: when I tried to save the file it said "Could not find the file /etc/x11/xorg.conf"
[09:59] <lorenzocabrini> maedox: sorry, but i don't have nautilus running so why should it insist on creating a Desktop directory?
[09:59] <maedox> Rickardo1: yes, 600 should be fine as long as the owner is the webserver-user.
[10:00] <baseem> ActionParsnip:Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[10:00] <maedox> lorenzocabrini: I don't know.
[10:00] <lorenzocabrini> maedox: ok, np.
[10:00] <maedox> lorenzocabrini: It's not nautilus probably. I would guess gdm does all that.
[10:00] <lorenzocabrini> i'm fixing it with a [[ -d ~/Scrivania ]] && rmdir ~/Scrivania in ~/.zshrc
[10:01] <lorenzocabrini> maedox: don't run gdm either. I startx when/if i need it.
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> baseem: lucid doesn't come with one, when you populate the file it should then be saveable.
[10:01] <maedox> lorenzocabrini: ok, then you will have to research it some more I guess.
[10:01] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/501370/ <--- this is the contents of my grub.cfg
[10:02] <lorenzocabrini> maedox: yes, but for the time being i did a bit of a workaround in ~/.zshrc
[10:02] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: look about right?
[10:02] <baseem> what is to populate a file?
[10:02] <glebihan> lorenzocabrini: it creates a desktop folder when you run startx ?
[10:02] <baseem> Actionparsnip: what is to populate a file?
[10:02] <Throlkim> On an i686 arch, should I be using i386 or amd64 packages?
[10:02] <lorenzocabrini> glebihan: yes, it started recently, possibly because i modified .xinitrc to launch openbox-session instead of openbox
[10:02] <blakkheim> i386
[10:03] <Throlkim> blakkheim: Thanks :)
[10:03] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: whats VBE?