[00:34] <intellectronica> wgrant: i've landed a fix for the empty subjects, should be on edge after the next daily rollout
[00:35] <intellectronica> and the ui is also being worked on, should see some serious improvements in the next few days
[00:36] <intellectronica> cody-somerville: iirc there isn't because after that the plugin became part of the mozilla codebase
[00:38] <cody-somerville> intellectronica, do I need to go through the same process to register enabled bugzilla instances?
[00:39] <intellectronica> cody-somerville: process? unless i'm forgetting something, the only thing that can be done on LP is resetting existing watches, to make sure they update again using the plugin, no?
[00:39] <cody-somerville> The launchpad bugzilla plugin allowed for comment sharing
[01:41] <mac9416> Hello, on the Confirm your OpenPGP Key page I keep getting this error: "Launchpad could not verify your signature: (7, 9, 'No public key')"
[01:41] <mac9416> I have no idea what that means :-
[01:41] <mac9416> :-(
[02:01] <thumper> mac9416: is your public key on a public keyserver?
[02:01] <mac9416> Yes, I sent it to keyserver.ubuntu.com
[02:02] <MT-> mac9416: did you add it to your profile?
[02:02] <wgrant> Make sure you signed the message with the right key.
[02:02] <MT-> probably a dumb question...
[02:03] <mac9416> I think it said so "A message has been sent to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>          To confirm the key 4096R/F5F81AFB is yours,           follow the link inside.         "
[02:03] <wgrant> A lot of people end up signing it with the wrong key.
[02:03] <mac9416> I htink maybe that's what I'm doing.
[02:03] <mac9416> I'm not sure how to specify which key to sighn with, though,
[02:03] <MT-> wgrant: that's why I have one key for all 5 email accounts :P
[02:04] <mac9416> gpg --clearsign ~/clearsign apparently signs with the wrong key
[02:04] <mac9416> But I'm not sure how to specify which one to use
[02:04] <wgrant> mac9416: --default-key, I think.
[02:05] <mac9416> gpg --default-key <ID> ?
[02:05] <mac9416> mac9416@mac9416-laptop:~/devel$ gpg --default-key F5F81AFB/gpg: Go ahead and type your message ...
[02:05] <mac9416> :-P
[02:12] <poolie> thumper: is there a bug for the whitespace probelm or should i file one?
[02:12] <poolie> mac9416: -u isn't it?
[02:13] <mac9416> I just deleted one of the keys, so it doesn't matter now :-D
[02:13] <poolie> heh
[02:13] <thumper> poolie: it is a tricky problem
[02:13] <thumper> poolie: file a new one and I'll think about it
[02:13] <poolie> to decide whether to fix it, or to work out how to fix it?
[02:15] <mac9416> Hey, guys, it finally validated, though I'm not sure why :-)
[02:34] <thumper> poolie: yes :)
[02:34] <poolie> snort, just noticed the pie chart again
[02:35] <poolie> thumper: it's bug 382561
[02:35] <poolie> i think you should bump it up, it's a pretty bad problem for reviewing python code
[02:36] <thumper> poolie: I was going to move the diff rendering to be like loggerheads
[02:36] <poolie> to be ajaxy?
[02:36] <thumper> so no incrementing line numbers
[02:36] <thumper> no
[02:37] <thumper> just how it shows diffs#
[02:37] <poolie> mm
[02:37] <poolie> can you change it to just be a <pre> block with regular spaces?
[02:37] <thumper> bad idea?
[02:37] <poolie> i think that will unbreak copy & paste
[02:37] <poolie> i'll look
[02:37] <thumper> no
[02:37] <thumper> I don't think it will
[02:38] <thumper> poolie: it has spaces
[02:39] <thumper> poolie: if we want to keep line numbers, I have another idea though
[02:39] <thumper> I'll try it out later
[02:40] <poolie> i don't care about line numbers in the diff
[02:40] <poolie> if they were the line numbers in the *file* that would be a bit more interesting but it's still for me very meh compared to getting the indenting right
[02:41] <thumper> poolie: well the indentation is right for the display
[02:41] <thumper> the problems are pasting into the comment
[02:42] <poolie> right
[02:42] <poolie> but that's a pretty common thing to do
[02:43] <thumper> it seems to be a problem with firefox, not what we display
[02:43] <thumper> the spaces are there
[02:43] <thumper> but cutting from firefox does something strange
[02:43] <thumper> I can't fix that :)
[02:44]  * thumper tries Konq
[02:46] <thumper> huh
[02:46] <thumper> well whaddya know
[02:46] <thumper> Konq gets it right
[02:46] <thumper> firefox stuffs it up
[02:49] <poolie> btw i'm really liking the overall code review experience
[02:49] <poolie> i'm glad we started dogfooding
[03:13] <thumper> poolie: nice
[03:13] <thumper> poolie: I do want it slicker though
[03:13] <thumper> but it is coming along
[05:16] <ianto> I'm receiving timeout errors in launchpad:  (Error ID: OOPS-1313B588)
[05:17] <ianto> When I try to load this page: https://launchpad.net/~locoteams
[05:17] <ianto> Happens on both edge and the standard server
[05:56] <thumper> ianto: hmm, seems to be timing out getting the locations of the members
[05:57] <thumper> ianto: I'll make sure it gets passed on
[05:57] <ianto> thumper: OK thanks :-)
[06:39] <mwhudson> !!
[06:40] <mwhudson> mischan
[07:03] <MT->  /help
[08:24] <thekorn> hi, can anybody please explain to me why I get "You are not Allowed here" when I try to access: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=couchdb
[08:31] <spm> thekorn: one of the ppa's that comes up is private. my 2c guess is that's a rather spectacular bug. Can you pls lodge accordingly?
[08:34] <thekorn> spm, ok, I'll file a bug, is soyuz the correct target for this report?
[08:34] <spm> thekorn: hmmm. not sure, file against launchpad would be my advice. it'll get sorted from there.
[08:34] <thekorn> spm, ok, thank you
[08:58] <poolie> spm, bac, or someone - please approve the ~bzr-windows mailing list
[08:58] <poolie> but if something's on fire it can wait.
[08:59] <spm> poolie: approved
[08:59] <poolie> thanks dude
[09:04] <poolie> spm, do you know if there's a reason why lists need special approval?
[10:09] <ball> Wouldn't it make sense, when I click on the 'Bugs' tab, for there to be a prominent list of bugs that I have filed?
[11:37] <dreamcat4> Hi. A question about Personal Package Archives (PPA)
[11:37] <dreamcat4> I created one yesterday at https://launchpad.net/~dreamcat4/+archive/ppa
[11:37] <dreamcat4> And all i get is a message saying "This PPA does not contain any packages yet."
[11:38] <bigjools> dreamcat4: what were you expecting?
[11:38] <noodles775> It looks like the help link from there is not so helpful?
[11:39] <noodles775> ie. it doesn't help you upload packages which would be dreamcat4's next steps.
[11:39] <wgrant> I'm sure it used to.
[11:39] <dreamcat4> Well, it says in the documentation that I should wait for a couple of hours for the PPA's  Sugning Key to be generated.
[11:39] <dreamcat4> (Signing Key)
[11:39] <wgrant> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading it is now, a few pages along.
[11:39] <bigjools> There's a link on how to upload packages
[11:39] <dreamcat4> Which will then be displayed on the page.
[11:40] <dreamcat4> That hasn't happened yet. The page could perhaps say "I'm still generating your signing key" of "not ready yet".
[11:40] <wgrant> noodles775: I guess there are probably other upload instructions there that those without launchpad.Edit can't see.
[11:40]  * wgrant forgets.
[11:41]  * bigjools edits the wiki page to include a link to the uploading section
[11:41] <dreamcat4> This is, i DID upload some packages shortly after creating the PPA
[11:41] <dreamcat4> Upload seemed to be successful (no errors reported).
[11:41] <bigjools> dreamcat4: how long ago?
[11:41] <noodles775> wgrant: yep, so did I.
[11:41] <bigjools> dreamcat4: you should get an email confirming it was accepted
[11:41] <dreamcat4> About 16 hours
[11:42] <dreamcat4> No emails recieved
[11:42] <bigjools> ok that means you've either not signed the upload, or signed it with a key that LP doesn't know aboutg
[11:42] <noodles775> bigjools: I just noticed the channel title: "PPA builders getting stuck"
[11:42] <wgrant> noodles775: Can you confirm locally? My good laptop is flat and the power cord is in the office...
[11:42]  * noodles775 checks the template.
[11:42] <dreamcat4> Personally I suspect that because of low entropy on the Virtual Machines, it's still generating the PGP Key.
[11:42] <bigjools> noodles775: yes, it's an apt bug
[11:43] <dreamcat4> But i have no way to check up on that, do I?
[11:43] <bigjools> dreamcat4: yes, it can be slow sometimes, but 16 hours is plenty
[11:43] <bigjools> dreamcat4: it also doesn't generate a key until you upload your first package
[11:43] <dreamcat4> I did sign my upload, with a valid Key
[11:43] <wgrant> dreamcat4: the archive key is separate from upload acceptance, and is not generated in a VM.
[11:43] <bigjools> dreamcat4: well double check that you let LP know about your key and associated it with your LP account
[11:44] <dreamcat4> thanks
[11:44] <bigjools> dreamcat4: LP doesn't email when it doesn't know who the signer is, to prevent spamming the innocent
[11:44] <dreamcat4> Obvously this is the first time I have tried to upload packages
[11:44] <noodles775> wgrant: nope, it's the only link displayed when the PPA isn't active... the wiki must have been updated since then.
[11:44] <bigjools> dreamcat4: great!  let us help you through it
[11:45] <wgrant> noodles775: Ew.
[11:45] <dreamcat4> thank you. I can go back to the Wiki Articles and double check my GPG  key is uploaded
[11:45] <wgrant> noodles775: I guess that's what Archive Index 3.0 is for.
[11:46] <noodles775> Yup :) (although updating the wiki as bigjools did is a good intermediate :) ).
[11:46]  * bigjools just saved the change
[11:51] <dreamcat4> Okay it appears I did upload mym gpg key to the ubuntu servers,
[11:51] <dreamcat4> but I didn't notice the step (in the wiki articles) about having to associate it to my LP account
[11:52] <dreamcat4> so I failed to enter the key into the dreamcat4's profile page
[11:52] <dreamcat4> Thank you bigjools
[11:52] <bigjools> dreamcat4: welcome
[11:53] <dreamcat4> I guess the page i was reading was this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[11:54] <dreamcat4> and it's just such a long article.
[11:55] <wgrant> The new archive index should probably replace the upload instruction line with a key addition link if there are no keys.
[11:55] <dreamcat4> yeah that would be great, because there's no rejection email
[11:56] <dreamcat4> i'll excuse myself now, thank you all again.
[12:01] <bigjools> good point, noodles775 can you put that in your PPA design changes please and file a bug about it
[12:02]  * noodles775 creates bug
[13:47] <pan1nx> is there a way to administer the launchpad.dev after installing it? some documentation?
[13:49] <noodles775> pan1nx: what exactly did you want to do?
[13:50] <pan1nx> well, I installed the launchpad on my desktop. playing with it. But I was wondering if there is some documentation about administering users, databases, projects, team
[13:51] <pan1nx> noodles775 I am talking about the way to use the launchpad.dev not the launchpad that is online...
[13:51] <noodles775> pan1nx: well, it's a development environment, so there's plenty of docs on writing tests, and doing development, but not so much for running it standalone.
[13:52] <pan1nx> I can see that
[13:53] <pan1nx> but there must be a way from the launchpad.net that can be used on this local copy
[13:53] <pan1nx> right?
[13:54] <beuno> pan1nx, there's no deployment documentation, as that's not what we want to encourage
[13:55] <pan1nx> aha, ok...that makes sense :D
[13:55] <pan1nx> thanks beuno for sharing this info
[15:10] <ryanakca> Is there an email interface to the answer tracker?
[15:10] <LarstiQ> ryanakca: yes
[15:11] <ryanakca> LarstiQ: Replying to an answer email should work?  I know of https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface , but I can't seem to find the details to the answer tracker's interface
[15:12] <LarstiQ> ryanakca: replying to an answer email works
[15:12] <LarstiQ> it's almost solely the way I interface with the answer tracker
[15:12] <ryanakca> OK
[15:13] <ryanakca> thanks :)
[16:33] <fta> cprov, wgrant: is it possible to kill the builds that have been running for more than 1 day? (bug 408001)... i386  83 builds waiting in queue
[16:36] <SteveA> kiko: hi!
[16:49] <kiko> SteveA!
[16:49] <kiko> SteveA, got the report to write up, just stuck with some trivialities but almost finished
[17:03] <cprov> fta: we could kill them but the job will get stuck in some other build
[17:03] <cprov> fta: Adam is working on it, AFAIK, let me check.
[17:04] <fta> cprov, i just asked because it's blocking other builds
[17:05] <cprov> fta: yes, yes, it was marked *critical* for that reason.
[17:05] <fta> and people are starting to get angry about me ;)
[17:29] <SteveA> kiko-fud: cool.  do you have time for a short phone call?
[18:17] <synic> Is there a way to manually expire bugs that are inactive for a certain amount of time?  I'd like to expire a lot of the old bugs in our project
[18:45] <deryck> synic, by manually expire, what do you mean?  Do you mean you want to set a group of bugs to Invalid faster than the 60 days used by the auto-expiring feature?
[19:51] <kfogel> bac: any idea why the error at the end of this attempt to build and install launchpadlib?
[19:51] <kfogel> https://pastebin.canonical.com/20826/
[19:53] <rockstar> kfogel, you probably need to install lazr.restfulclient
[19:53] <kfogel> rockstar: check back in the transcript -- it tries to install  lazr.restfulclient itself!
[19:54] <rockstar> leonardr, any clue? ^^
[19:56] <leonardr> CHECKING
[19:59] <leonardr> kfogel, i don't know what's causing that, but i'm actually about to get rid of that code
[19:59] <leonardr> so you might just wait a while and it might go away
[19:59] <kfogel> leonardr: so if I want to try writing API-using scripts right now, what's my best course?
[20:00] <leonardr> kfogel: is the launchpadlib in the python-launchpadlib package not working?
[20:00] <kfogel> leonardr: didn't even try that, I was just using trunk.  I take it that was a bad idea? :-)
[20:01] <leonardr> not a bad idea, but if you just want to write scirpts python-launchpadlib is better
[20:01] <kfogel> leonardr: so my usual philosophy for projects I'm involved with is to run trunk.  If I install python-launchpadlib now, and later you fix trunk, will The Right Thing happen if I then build and install trunk?
[20:01] <kfogel> I.e., it will shadow the packaged version?
[20:02] <leonardr> kfogel: yeah, it should
[20:04] <kfogel> leonardr: ok.  Hmmm.  So I installed python-launchpadlib, but it looks like maybe I'm paying for my habit of installing bzr from trunk?  see https://pastebin.canonical.com/20828/
[20:05] <leonardr> kfogel: whoa, yeah
[20:05] <leonardr> ask around in #bzr maybe
[20:09] <bac> kfogel: i just saw your question about lplib.  you got it answered?
[20:10] <kfogel> bac: it's exploded into a yak shaving festival involving multiple IRC channels, but yes, thanks.
[20:14] <bac> umm, yaks
[20:21] <krow> Question... moving a mailing list to Launchpad...
[20:22] <krow> Who should I talk too?  (Last time I just askd statik and he made it happen)
[20:28] <bac> leonardr: ^^
[20:32] <leonardr> krow: you're not migrating the archives or anything, right, you just want the mailing list to happen on launchpad?
[20:36] <leonardr> krow: you can register a team (https://edge.launchpad.net/people/+newteam) and then create a mailing list for it. once it's approved, the team members can subscribe
[20:45] <POX> please, please, please implement a feature to unsubscribe from a bug, I created a patch that fixes #199014 in my package (pypar2) more than a year ago and I'm spammed by launchpad since then
[20:46] <micahg> POX: you can unsubscribe from a bug on the bug page
[20:48] <POX> not if subscribed it manually
[20:48] <POX> i.e. I'm a "bug contact" for pypar2
[20:49] <POX> s/if subscribed/if you didn't subscribe/
[20:51] <POX> pypar2 is marked as "Fix released" since 2008-03 or so, I don't care about other packages or status changes
[20:58] <POX> great, yet another "Branch linked" email (/me unmarks "I want to receive these notifications by e-mail." checkbox in pypar2's bug page)
[21:01] <slayton> is there anyway to setup a ppa to _not_ build lpia builds?
[21:06] <maxb> slayton: Not the PPA, no, but a source package can specify which architectures it is to be built for
[21:06] <slayton> maxb, I'm guessing its possible to specify i386 and amd64 while excluding lpia
[21:11] <maxb> Although, hmm.
[21:12] <maxb> I have a feeling it'll still try to be built on lpia, because of a misfeature of the debian package format ensuring that you need to unpack the source package to tell whether it's supposed to build on a given architecture
[21:15] <kfogel> I'm on https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib following the setup instructions, but got this error:
[21:15] <kfogel> https://pastebin.canonical.com/20829/
[21:15] <kfogel> (I have done 'sudo aptitude install python-launchpadlib' already)
[21:15] <slayton> maxb, hmm... oh well then I just won't worry about it
[21:15] <kfogel> Looks like I'm missing lazr.restfulclient... but then why did python-launchpadlib install successfully?
[21:34] <leonardr> kfogel: python-launchpadlib is an old version of launchpadlib before we split most of the code out into lazr.restfulclient
[21:36] <kfogel> leonardr: thank you.  I kind of need to use launchpadlib; I guess I'm going to do hacks like the one jml just put on wiki page until this is all sorted out.  Is there a definite sorting-out under way, do you know?
[21:37] <leonardr> kfogel: yes, for anything you might consider a sorting-out, it is under way
[21:40] <kfogel> leonardr: :-)
[21:40] <mac9416> Hello, is it possible to withdraw a merge proposal?
[21:41] <kfogel> mac9416: can you hit the delete icon next to its title?
[21:41] <kfogel> mac9416: (is there one?)
[21:42] <kfogel> mac9416: which proposal?
[21:42] <mac9416> Um, I'll try and find that button :-P
[21:46] <mac9416> kfogel, https://code.launchpad.net/~mac9416/keryx/trunk/+merge/9691
[21:55] <kfogel> mac9416: I probably see different buttons than you see, but do you see any way to delete it?
[21:55] <mac9416> Got it. I edited the status to be "rejected." That got it. Thanks
[22:35] <jcastro> I need to correct the URL of a code import, any ideas how to do that?
[22:35] <jcastro> <--- totally forgot and can't seem to find out how
[23:03] <krow> leonardr: migrating the archives
[23:10] <leonardr> krow: ah, in that case i suggest asking statik for help again. at least he should be able to point you in the right direction
[23:10] <leonardr> jcastro: is yours the pytrainer one?
[23:11] <leonardr> you should be able to edit it from here: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/pytrainer/mirror
[23:11] <leonardr> if not, ask a launchpad question with the details
[23:15] <jcastro> leonardr, nope I just wanted to change f-spot from the old svn import to a git one
[23:17] <leonardr> jcastro: unfortunately i have to run, maybe someone else can help you :(
[23:20] <mwhudson> jcastro: just request a new import, we don't have a sensible way of converting between different import sources
[23:20] <mwhudson> (it's a hard problem)
[23:25] <jcastro> mwhudson, ok that'll do, thanks for the help.


[04:01] <pleia2> here's the thing I said I'd make http://ubuntu-california.org/webalizer/
[04:01] <darthrobot> Title: [Usage statistics for ubuntu-california.org - Summary by Month]
[04:02] <ianorlin> yay
[04:02] <pleia2> it actually goes back to November 2010, but you have to manually navigate to those pages like http://ubuntu-california.org/webalizer/usage_201011.html
[04:02] <darthrobot> Title: [Usage statistics for ubuntu-california.org - November 2010]
[04:36] <philipballew> Who picks the pictures for the loco postal events?
[04:36] <philipballew> the ones that show where the event is
[04:37] <ianorlin> I was planning on bringing a cannon camera with me
[04:37] <ianorlin> nhaines, said he had one too
[04:38] <ianorlin> oh sorry misread but brining cameras to scale would be good idea
[04:38] <pleia2> philipballew: a robot does (it's code in the loco team portal that queries panoramio.com to find photos of places nearby)
[04:39] <philipballew> pleia2, interesting.
[04:39] <philipballew> oh well
[04:39] <pleia2> ianorlin: yay! I won't be there to take pictures, so I'm doing scale vicariously through you guys ;)
[04:40] <pleia2> I'd like to see how the booth turns out
[04:40] <philipballew> I'll be live tweeting scale
[04:41] <philipballew> then again, I tend to tweet anything and everything
[04:43] <philipballew> So far, me and Richard are also working on a very successful ubucon.
[04:44] <philipballew> Though I am disappointed they will not let me show everyone my rap skills and rap about Ubuntu.
[04:44] <philipballew> ^this is not true people, I have no cool skills like that.
[04:45] <philipballew> There is however that video is Richard Stallman dancing to "Solja Boy"
[23:40] <nhaines> The good news is that our conference pack arrived from Canonical today and also Ubuntu polos for the both volunteers.
[23:40] <pleia2> both?
[23:40] <nhaines> The bad news is that apparently anything larger than medium was fulfilled as extra large. So there's that.
[23:40] <nhaines> Yup, both packages.
[23:41] <nhaines> Also booth, lol.
[23:41] <pleia2> oh, you meant booth
[23:41] <pleia2> I was like only 2 volunteers what
[23:41] <nhaines> Booth volunteers.
[23:41] <pleia2> :)
[23:41] <nhaines> Ah, on screen keyboards...