[15:59] <jamespage> o/
[16:00] <roaksoax> o/
[16:00] <smb> \o
[16:00] <rbasak> o/
[16:00] <arosales> hello o/
[16:01] <plars> o/
[16:01] <roaksoax> I'll give a couple more minutes before getting started
[16:03] <roaksoax> alright so lets get started
[16:03] <roaksoax> #startmeeting
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[16:03] <roaksoax> [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:03] <roaksoax> Daviey send call for alpha-2-ish testing
[16:03] <roaksoax> Daviey: ^^
[16:04] <Daviey> that was canned
[16:05] <roaksoax> alright let's move on then
[16:05] <roaksoax> jamespage to milesone documentation updates [carryover]
[16:05] <jamespage> no progress
[16:05] <jamespage> sorry
[16:05] <roaksoax> ok
[16:05] <roaksoax> moving on
[16:05] <roaksoax> jamespage discuss QA representation at Server TeamMeeting
[16:05] <jamespage> done
[16:05] <jamespage> plars attends now
[16:05] <plars> we did that last time I believe, I'm here now :)
[16:06] <roaksoax> awesome then
[16:06] <roaksoax> [ACTION] jamespage to milesone documentation updates [carryover]
[16:06] <meetingology> ACTION: jamespage to milesone documentation updates [carryover]
[16:06] <roaksoax> alright let's move on
[16:06] <roaksoax> #topic Raring Development
[16:06] <roaksoax> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule
[16:06] <roaksoax> we currently are past feature freeze
[16:07] <roaksoax> Release Tracking Bug Tasks - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-r-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server
[16:07] <roaksoax> bug #1044503
[16:07] <roaksoax> fixed
[16:07] <roaksoax> bug #1064527 still unsure
[16:08] <roaksoax> bug #1073463 i'm gonna look into it since maas trunk just hit archives last week
[16:08] <roaksoax> bug 1092715
[16:08] <roaksoax> serge doesn't seem to be around
[16:08] <roaksoax> anyone have any info of the above?
[16:09] <Daviey> I suspect hallyn will be here shorty, lets circle back
[16:09] <roaksoax> ok
[16:09] <roaksoax> bug #1133608
[16:10] <roaksoax> zuk is not arround
[16:10] <roaksoax> jamespage: adam_g ^^?
[16:10] <jamespage> roaksoax, I'll take that but I think its fixed upstream
[16:11] <roaksoax> ok good!
[16:11] <roaksoax> jamespage: this is yours bug #1153066
[16:11] <jamespage> will land in distro this week with rc1
[16:12] <roaksoax> awesome!
[16:12] <roaksoax> finally bug #1100920
[16:12] <roaksoax> smoser: ^^
[16:12] <smoser> looking. i think maybe fixed.
[16:13] <smoser> yeah, i'll fix that.
[16:13] <roaksoax> \ok cool
[16:13] <roaksoax> Blueprints - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/group/topic-raring-servercloud-overview.html
[16:14] <roaksoax> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-openstack-ha
[16:14] <roaksoax> so most of the stuff charm wise is done, or almost done and undergoing testing
[16:14] <roaksoax> jamespage: anything to add^?
[16:15] <jamespage> last few charm bits are landing this week
[16:15] <jamespage> but all-in-all looking pretty good!¬
[16:15] <Daviey> roaksoax: hallyn here
[16:15] <roaksoax> jamespage: cool. I also need to finish the filesync with mysql
[16:15] <hallyn> \o
[16:15] <jamespage> roaksoax, yeah - its all bug fixing from here on in IMHO
[16:15] <jamespage> I expect to find races
[16:15] <roaksoax> jamespage: cool! so lots of tests to come (in real HW) right :)
[16:16] <jamespage> no comment
[16:16] <roaksoax> ok let's get back to hallyn for a bit. bug #1092715
[16:16] <roaksoax> hallyn: ^^
[16:16] <hallyn> roaksoax: right - afaik that should now be being worked around ok
[16:17] <hallyn> qemu-system-x86 is manually forcing the user/perms on that twice
[16:17] <hallyn> if that's still a problem, please shout.  otherwise i'm going to wait for consolekit to be burned at the stake, and let that solve it
[16:17] <jamespage> hallyn, I think it might be
[16:17] <hallyn> jamespage: still a problem, or solved?
[16:17] <jamespage> (but I've been testing on precise for the last couple of days)
[16:17] <jamespage> hallyn, no - still a problem
[16:18] <jamespage> hallyn, what should /dev/kvm look like when 'correct'?
[16:18] <jamespage> in terms of permissions
[16:18] <hallyn> jamespage: ok, if it is, then please shout, and be very detailed about which of the meany situations you're seeing :)
[16:18] <hallyn> root:kvm 660
[16:18] <jamespage> I see root:root 660 I think
[16:18] <jamespage> let me spin up a raring deployment and I'll let you know
[16:18] <hallyn> thx
[16:18] <hallyn> jamespage:
[16:19] <hallyn> qemu-system-common.postinst manually does chgrp kvm /dev/kvm, so i sure do hope not
[16:19] <hallyn> (though then udev gets pinged, so it might be UN-doing that...  grrr)
[16:19] <hallyn> anyway, we can discuss elsewhere - thx roaksoax  :)
[16:20] <roaksoax> alright
[16:20] <roaksoax> let's continue with BP's
[16:20] <roaksoax> hallyn: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-lxc :)
[16:21] <hallyn> roaksoax: yes?
[16:21] <roaksoax> hallyn: any updates?
[16:21] <roaksoax> hallyn: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-lxc :)
[16:21] <hallyn> roaksoax: i suspect that dlezcano's items will be postponed...
[16:22] <hallyn> i'm working on unprivileged container creation+use, but otherwise userns is postponed till past raring
[16:22] <hallyn> (except in ppa, where it works just fine :)
[16:22] <roaksoax> ok! sounds goot then
[16:22] <roaksoax> good*
[16:23] <roaksoax> then moving on, zul is not here, so let's skip https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-openstack-grizzly
[16:23] <roaksoax> unless someone has info
[16:23] <roaksoax> seems not
[16:23] <roaksoax> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-maas-next-steps
[16:24] <roaksoax> so last week I uploaded maas to -proposed for both precise and quantal, so it is up to the SRU team to accept it and I'll do a call for testing
[16:25] <roaksoax> smoser: any updates? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-image-access
[16:25] <smoser> :-( not many
[16:25] <roaksoax> :( alright! i'll move on then
[16:25] <roaksoax> jamespage: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-ceph
[16:26] <roaksoax> any updates ?
[16:26] <jamespage> we should get another bobtail point release before raring releases
[16:26] <jamespage> need to get the testing setup to support MRE's but aside from that all good
[16:27] <roaksoax> awesome
[16:27] <roaksoax> ok so if there's no other BP we should be discussing
[16:27] <roaksoax> i'll move on
[16:28] <roaksoax> or unless someone has something else to talk about raring Development
[16:28] <roaksoax> Daviey: ?
[16:29] <roaksoax> I guess not
[16:29] <roaksoax> let's move on then
[16:29] <roaksoax> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:30] <roaksoax> any event's comming up?
[16:30] <arosales> Pycon coming up
[16:30] <arosales> hazmant and mramm will be their giving talks
[16:30] <jamespage> \o/
[16:31] <arosales> https://us.pycon.org/2013/
[16:31] <jamespage> ODS +1 month
[16:31] <roaksoax> awesome
[16:31] <roaksoax> ok it seems there're no more events coming soon, so lets move on
[16:31] <roaksoax> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars)
[16:31] <roaksoax> plars: howdy!
[16:32] <plars> hi
[16:32] <plars> one quick thing today
[16:32] <plars> The LXC tests still seem to be failing even after the update to lxc 0.9.0~alpha3-0ubuntu3 (see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/1144873)
[16:32] <plars> Here are the details from the latest run log: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/Smoke%20Testing/job/raring-server-i386-smoke-lxc/125/artifact/clientlogs/utah-6020-raring-server-i386_lxc.run_2013-03-12_15-03-42.yaml/*view*/
[16:32] <roaksoax> hallyn: ^^
[16:32] <plars> amd64 runs are still going after the latest respin, the results above are from the latest completed i386 run.
[16:33] <hallyn> hm
[16:34] <hallyn> "dunno"
[16:34] <hallyn> added to my list
[16:34] <hallyn> thx
[16:34] <plars> thanks
[16:34] <hallyn> plars: note i never was able to reproduce any of those
[16:35] <hallyn> but it seems you're really hammering that box :)  making things very slow inside the vm
[16:35] <hallyn> so i perhaps need to reproduce that
[16:35] <hallyn> run 4 utah runs at once
[16:35] <plars> hallyn: we can try it when the system is a bit more quiet, see if it changes anything
[16:36] <plars> but typically when we see failures due to too many VMs simultaneously, they look different
[16:36] <plars> VMs fail to start, libvirt timeout errors, etc
[16:36] <hallyn> plars: hah, well if there's a race there's a race, no sense 'wrking around it' by giving an ideal env :)
[16:36] <hallyn> no no, i believe it's an lxc bug, just haven't reproduced it myself
[16:36] <plars> no, I wasn't suggesting that, just that if you wanted us to, we could see if that changes things
[16:36] <hallyn> i don't think it's libvirt/qemu's fault
[16:37] <hallyn> plars: that could be informative
[16:37] <hallyn> just so i know that's not what i need to be trying to reproduce
[16:37] <plars> nothing else from me at the moment
[16:38] <roaksoax> alright
[16:38] <roaksoax> let's move on then
[16:38] <roaksoax> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:38] <roaksoax> smb: howdy!
[16:38] <smb> I have been preparing a Xen 4.2.1 update for Raring (Debian has not
[16:38] <smb> made one yet). Even though not in sync with Debian this is released
[16:38] <smb> by Xen upstream as stable updates. If someone is willing to look/
[16:38] <smb> sponsor its at chinstrap:~smb/4review).
[16:38] <smb> I was generally wondering whether this (given some recent statements
[16:38] <smb> about LTS point releases) would be a worthwhile option for previous
[16:38] <smb> releases, too. Not completely upgrading but pull in Xen stable (eg.
[16:38] <smb> update 4.1.x to 4.1.4 in Q and P at least). This is not expected to
[16:38] <smb> be decided here. Just throwing the idea into the air.
[16:38] <smb> Daviey, arosales, on a related matter ogasaware sent you email. It
[16:38] <smb> would be awsome if there would be a reply. ;)
[16:38] <smb> That would be all from my side. If there are no questions that is.
[16:38] <smb> ..
[16:38] <smb> and howdy. :)
[16:39] <arosales> smb: will take a look
[16:39] <arosales> smb: ah re oprofile
[16:39] <smb> arosales, yup
[16:40] <arosales> smb: ok, will get with Daviey and respond
[16:40] <arosales> smb: sorry for the delay
[16:40] <smb> arosales, looking into the xen features. at least compile for now
[16:40] <smb> arosales, Cheers. :)
[16:41] <roaksoax> alright, so if noone else has something to discuss with smb
[16:41] <roaksoax> lets move on
[16:42] <roaksoax> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:42] <rbasak> Nothing new to report. Any questions for me?
[16:42] <Daviey> smb: yeah, got the mail - wasn't ignoring it :)
[16:42] <smb> Daviey, nor replying either (as far as I was able to see) ;)
[16:44] <roaksoax> ok since it seems there's no questions for rbasak , let's open the floor for:
[16:44] <Daviey> smb: generally, the longer the original mail - the longer in time it takes to reply. :)
[16:44] <roaksoax> err
[16:44] <roaksoax> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:44] <roaksoax> #topic Open Discussion
[16:44] <roaksoax> there we go, anyone have anything to discuss today?
[16:44] <roaksoax> or would like to share with us?
[16:45] <Daviey> thanks all for vUDS being successful !
[16:45] <Daviey> make sure BP's are in all inorder
[16:45] <arosales> +1 on vUDS
[16:45] <arosales> roaksoax: I have one
[16:45] <roaksoax> arosales: shoot :)
[16:46] <arosales> if folks are interested in giving Go Juju a try 1.9.11 is out, and feedback and testing would be appreciated.
[16:46] <roaksoax> awesome!!
[16:46] <roaksoax> GoJuJu!!
[16:46] <arosales> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/juju/2013-March/002172.html
[16:46] <arosales> roaksoax: thanks
[16:47] <arosales> ..
[16:47] <roaksoax> arosales: thank you fgor letting us know
[16:47]  * roaksoax is meeting up with zul in St. Pete this weekend
[16:47] <arosales> roaksoax: sure, np.
[16:48] <roaksoax> anyway. let's get this to an end
[16:48] <arosales> ah so that is where chuck is at :-)
[16:48] <roaksoax> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:48] <roaksoax> arosales: yeah that's were he is... tanning at the beach in FL!
[16:48] <roaksoax> alright, next meeting
[16:48] <roaksoax> same place, time (Note the Timezone change)
[16:48] <roaksoax> #endmeeting
[16:48] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Mar 12 16:48:54 2013 UTC.
[16:48] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-03-12-16.03.moin.txt
[16:48] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-03-12-16.03.html
[16:49] <roaksoax> thank you all for coming
[16:49] <Daviey> Thanks roaksoax !
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 12 17:00:08 2013 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/raring
[17:00] <ppisati> o/
[17:00] <bjf> o/
[17:00] <kamal> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:00] <smb> \o
[17:00] <ogasawara> o/
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:00] <ppisati> R/master: nothing new this week.
[17:00] <ppisati> R/omap4: verified that pvr-omap4 doesn't work with our multiplatform 3.8 kernel,
[17:00] <ppisati> i'm waiting input if we can drop the omap4 dekstop image.
[17:01] <ppisati> R/nexus7: ported overlayfs from P (lp1076317) - awaiting testing from a
[17:01] <ppisati> brave soul since my nexus7 is borked ATM (lp1126836).
[17:01] <ppisati> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-distro-team/+upcomingwork
[17:01] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/canonical-kernel-distro-team.html
[17:01] <ogasawara> || apw       || hardware-r-kernel-config-review       || 1 work item  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||           || hardware-r-delta-review               || 3 work items ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||           || foundations-r-secure-boot             || 1 work item  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||           || foundations-r-aarch64                 || 1 work item  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||           || foundations-r-upstart-user-session-enhancements || 1 work item ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> || ogasawara || hardware-r-kernel-config-review       || 3 work items ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||           || hardware-r-kernel-version-and-flavors || 2 work items ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||           || hardware-r-arm-kernel-maintenance     || 1 work item  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||           || hardware-r-kernel-misc                || 1 work item  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> || ppisati   || hardware-r-kernel-config-review       || 1 work item  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> || rtg       || hardware-r-delta-review               || 1 work item  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> The above summarizes the remaining work items owned by individuals on
[17:02] <ogasawara> our team for the rest of the 13.04 cycle.
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Raring Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:02] <ogasawara> Since our last meeting 2 weeks ago, we have rebased to the latest v3.8.2
[17:02] <ogasawara> upstream stable kernel.  We've also added Haswell ULT NFC, I2C, SPI, and
[17:02] <ogasawara> SATA RTD3 support, USB3 port power off capability, prime support for
[17:02] <ogasawara> nouveau and radeon, and other misc config updates and bug fixes.
[17:02] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * Raring:
[17:02] <ogasawara>   * Thurs Mar 21 - 13.04 Final Beta Freeze (~2 weeks)
[17:02] <ogasawara>   * Thurs Mar 28 - 13.04 Final Beta Release (~3 weeks)
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin)
[17:02] <sconklin> == 2013-03-12 (weekly) ==
[17:02] <sconklin> Currently we have 46 CVEs on our radar, with 10 CVEs added and 1 CVE retired this week.
[17:02] <sconklin> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:02] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:02] <sconklin> Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
[17:02] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:02] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:02] <sconklin> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Quantal/Precise/Oneiric/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/henrix)
[17:03] <bjf> Status for the main kernels, until tiday (Feb. 26):
[17:03] <bjf>   *   Hardy - Nothing this cycle
[17:03] <bjf>   *   Lucid - In Prep; (2 commits)
[17:03] <bjf>   * Oneiric - In Prep; 4 upstream releases; (68 commits)
[17:03] <bjf>   * Precise - In Prep; 2 upstream releases; (197 commits)
[17:03] <bjf>   * Quantal - In Prep; 2 upstream releases; (175 commits)
[17:03] <bjf> Due to a regression, the Quantal kernel and it's derivatives have been
[17:03] <bjf> respun.
[17:03] <bjf> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:03] <bjf>   * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:03] <bjf> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:03] <bjf>   * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:03] <bjf> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:03] <bjf>   * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseInterlock
[17:03] <bjf> >>
[17:03] <bjf> >> Note: The week of March 21 is the week the last Hardy and Oneiric kernels may be built.
[17:03] <bjf> >>
[17:03] <bjf> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:03] <ogasawara> o/
[17:03] <jsalisbury> ogasawara, go
[17:04] <ogasawara> I just wanted to formally welcome kamal back to the team
[17:04] <ogasawara> ..
[17:04] <kamal> ogasawara: thanks!  happy to be here!  :-)
[17:04] <jsalisbury> kamal \o/
[17:04] <kamal> ..
[17:04] <kamal> \o/
[17:04] <apw> welcome
[17:04] <rtg_> dude, welcome back
[17:04] <cking> ditto
[17:04] <smb> yup
[17:05] <kamal> thanks all!
[17:05] <jsalisbury> Any other open discussion or questions?
[17:05] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:05] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:05] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Mar 12 17:05:28 2013 UTC.
[17:05] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-03-12-17.00.moin.txt
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[17:05] <cking> thanks jsalisbury
[17:05] <kamal> thanks jsalisbury


[12:24] <lifeless> have I missed the meetin ?
[12:29] <Hobbsee> lifeless: which meeting?
[13:34] <lifeless> Hobbsee: oh, its monday
[13:34] <lifeless> Hobbsee: garh
[13:34] <Hobbsee> lifeless: yeah, i thought you'd missed it!  or were still waiting too early
[13:34] <persia> lifeless, On the bright side, that means you aren't late :)
[13:36] <lifeless> indeed
[13:36] <lifeless> but tomorrow is a new day
[13:36] <lifeless> :P
[13:36] <persia> Have a good night :)
[14:06] <Laney> @schedule london


[07:14] <cdbs> Assalam alaikum everyone
[07:14] <cdbs> How are we all doing it today?
[07:15] <cdbs> And welcome jussi to the channel, its always nice to have someone from the LoCo council on a LoCo channel :)
[07:57] <jussi> cdbs: Im not on the loco council...
[08:18] <cdbs> jussi: s/loco council/irc council/
[08:23] <jussi> cdbs: Anyway, the reason Im here is a practical one - Im looking to find a open source arabic font - can you point me at any?
[08:24] <cdbs> jussi: hmm, /me is not the right person for that
[08:24] <cdbs> S4RY: You know any open source arabic fonts?
[08:24] <jussi> S4RY:  ^^^
[08:24] <jussi> oh
[08:24] <jussi> :D
[08:24] <cdbs> jussi: Tried googling?
[08:24] <jussi> cdbs: yes, and I fail
[08:24] <jussi> feel free to point out my google deficiencies though
[08:25] <cdbs> S4RY isn't around for most of the time AFAIK
[08:26] <cdbs> jussi: Unfortunately the Arahic sphere of the world hasn't been hit with open source magic yet :)
[08:26] <cdbs> *;(
[08:26] <cdbs> *:(
[10:59] <S4RY> Assalamu alykum ,
[11:00] <S4RY> jussi, Have you checked with Arabeyes Project.
[11:14] <jussi> S4RY: found some :) http://www.wazu.jp/gallery/Fonts_Arabic.html
[11:24] <S4RY> Okay good , because Arabeyes.org didn't open here.


[08:33] <pavlushka> Hi every one!!!
[15:33] <pavlushka> Hi Ekushey !
[15:39] <Ekushey> Hello
[16:55] <Ekushey> Microsoft is bringing bash shell to Windows :D
[16:56] <pavlushka> :P
[16:56] <Ekushey> Soon we'll have MS Linux
[16:56] <Kilos> evening all
[16:57] <Ekushey> Good evening
[16:57] <pavlushka> Ekushey, lol @ that,
[16:57] <Kilos> had a long day so will sleep early but will be here tomorrow
[16:57] <pavlushka> Evening Kilos !
[17:00] <pavlushka> sure, you are welcome anytime, Kilos !


[06:34] <PStef> Hello ... first timer here!:)
[14:41] <ArepaKing> Hi everybody... our LoCo US-NC team needs some help in regards to the IRC Channel is this the right channel to ask?
[14:41] <jpds> ArepaKing: Yep, what's up?
[14:42] <ArepaKing> good! we are trying to register the channel within the ubuntu naming convention. We realized that the channel is already register by a person who is no longer an active member of the community. We tried to contact him but he said he forgot the channel details
[14:43] <jpds> ArepaKing: #ubuntu-us-nc ?
[14:43] <ArepaKing> the channel exist though.. but we are not able to change the topic, assign the new lead as OP, etc..
[14:43] <ArepaKing> yes
[14:45] <ArepaKing> _marx_ is the new US-NC lead..  he just joined
[14:46]  * _marx_ just had a reply from viridari
[14:46] <jpds> Hey _marx_
[14:47] <ArepaKing> so if the old admin does not remember the channel details.. how could we get back the channel to the new lead?
[14:47] <_marx_> ArepaKing: he said he'll make the transfer
[14:48] <_marx_> apparently he does remember
[14:48] <ArepaKing> that's good to know
[14:48] <jpds> _marx_: You might want to change the details for North Carolina that: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
[14:48] <_marx_> but I think there should be more than one person in that role
[14:50] <Myrtti> we'd greatly appreciate if you could add the IRC council to the access list
[14:50] <jpds> Myrtti: They can't that's the problem.
[14:50] <ArepaKing> yes that is an important task
[14:51] <ArepaKing> to avoid this situation in the future again
[14:51] <Myrtti> jpds: can't *currently*
[14:51] <jpds> _marx_: You might wnat to announce the change to: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts too.
[15:24] <Nafallo> jpds: !info seems broken in -se
[15:25] <jpds> ubot2: info cheese
[15:25] <ubot2> jpds: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[15:26] <jpds> ubot4: info cheese
[15:26] <ubot4> jpds: Package cheese does not exist in intrepid
[16:21] <MTecknology> wow, that's a big of bots:users ratio
[21:11] <ubot4> jpds called the ops in #ubuntu-uk (kronix)
[21:13] <jpds> Gary: Weird.
[21:14] <Gary> yeah, he is in a few other channels, maybe a joke in one of them
[21:14] <jpds> OK; I just translated it es->en_GB, not nice.
[21:46] <jpds> Pricey: Hey,, could you talk to '_marx_' over the new #ubuntu-us-nc access list.
[21:47] <jpds> Pricey: ^
[21:47] <Pricey> Hmm?
[21:47] <jpds> 14:42:57 < ArepaKing> good! we are trying to register the channel within the ubuntu naming convention. We realized that the channel is already register by a person who  is no longer an active member of the community. We tried to contact him but he said he forgot the channel details
[21:48] <_marx_> jpds: that contact was about 2 months ago
[21:48] <Pricey> There is no "channel details". He can just identify, and transfer it to you.
[21:49] <Pricey> *There are no
[21:49] <_marx_> the contact this am cleared it up; he says he will do that at next login to freenode
[21:49] <jpds> Ah right.
[21:50] <_marx_> which may be a few days: in email he said he had to rebuild his ubunutu box
[21:50]  * _marx_ doesn't know why not use any os to login to freenode
[21:54] <Pricey> Great, hes not long gone so I think it would be more polite for us to wait for him than force the change :)
[21:55] <_marx_> yeah I think so too


[14:08] <mdeslaur> RAOF_: I've added a blurb to our bug about the clipboard: bug 1371170
[14:09] <mdeslaur> RAOF_: if you have any details to add, or anyone to assign, etc.
[16:04] <alan_g> any more votes on https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/mir/make-stub-a-graphics-platform/+merge/239042?
[19:17] <RAOF_> bschaefer: https://code.launchpad.net/~raof/mir/dont-kill-the-poor-clients/+merge/232971
[19:21] <bschaefer> RAOF_, very nice name of the branch haha


 I'm having a difficult time deciding whether to patch this out via the copyright file, or override the Lintian warning (re @tsimonq2: W: qtdeclarative5-examples: executable-not-elf-or-script [usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/examples/quick/shadereffects/content/shaders/rhi/compile.bat])
 I can see a valid argument both ways
 You can manually `rm` it from debian/tmp between dh_auto_install and dh_install.
 We already have `override_dh_auto_install-arch` target, so just add one more command to it.
 Good call, thanks
 https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/qt/qtdeclarative/-/merge_requests/4


[00:17] <slangasek> Riddell: cantor> cheers :)
[01:51] <freeflying> http://paste.ubuntu.com/748853/
[01:52] <freeflying> for who has uploaded qt4 recently please double check it
[01:52] <freeflying> this kind of failue happened at least 2 times recently
[02:01] <Riddell> freeflying: we know, it's ug 893826
[02:01] <Riddell> bug 893826
[02:32] <freeflying> Riddell: I see, thanks, you still around? :)
[02:42] <Riddell> freeflying: briefly
[12:00]  * Riddell wonders what needs to be changed for bug 893842
[12:24] <debfx> I don't think we hardcode the admin group anywhere
[12:27] <tsdgeos> fregl: ping
[12:31] <fregl> tsdgeos: pong
[12:31] <tsdgeos> fregl: trying accessible on qt 4.8 with qml, should the Accessible.Role be the property I assign?
[12:33] <fregl> tsdgeos: we are not releasing accessible qml with 4.8
[12:33] <tsdgeos> really?
[12:33] <tsdgeos> i see lots of code in there
[12:33] <fregl> tsdgeos: ubuntu patches I presume
[12:33] <tsdgeos> nope, it's a clean copy
[12:33] <tsdgeos> or maybe not :D
[12:33]  * tsdgeos git stats
[12:34] <tsdgeos> ah
[12:34] <tsdgeos> not clean
[12:34]  * tsdgeos hits himself
[12:34] <tsdgeos> fregl: sorry for the noise then
[12:34] <fregl> I can point you to our research repo. we will only release this when it's in sensible shape with 5.0
[12:34]  * tsdgeos goes and removes all those accessible roles since are not needed for his testing
[12:35] <fregl> tsdgeos: I'm still interested, if you get to work on this stuff, ubuntu qt packages need carefull handling when updating to 4.8...
[12:35] <fregl> just so you know
[12:35] <tsdgeos> yeah probably evertything will break with that huge a11y patch :D
[12:35] <tsdgeos> don't think that'll fall in my shoulders
[12:36] <tsdgeos> but thanks for the heads up
[12:36] <fregl> tsdgeos: I would recommend taking the patches again from our 4.8 branch where they originally come from... and that time including the bugfixes in there...
[12:36] <fregl> but ok, I don't have time for that either, I just hope it works nicely then
[12:36] <tsdgeos> he he
[12:36] <tsdgeos> cheers
[12:40] <txwikinger> Ever since oneiric, whenever I close the lid on my netbook everything freezes. On my laptop everytthing is fine.
[13:05] <Riddell> debfx: found one, userconfig :)
[13:51] <debfx> I think we should revive the "firefox as default browser" debate since we now have the cd space to actually switch to it
[13:56] <Riddell> CD size is expected to be 700MB still
[13:57] <Riddell> ubuntu desktop don't want to change for LTS
[14:03] <debfx> yes, but we can still switch to 750MB images for kubuntu, right?
[14:07] <Riddell> we could, and it would be interesting to see what the reaction would be, but it would also risk alienating people who still like CDs
[14:11] <debfx> another option would be to reduce the dvd image to < 1 or 2 GB like ubuntu and advertise that as our main distribution medium
[14:15] <Riddell> debfx: is that what they did for oneiric?
[14:17] <debfx> Riddell: the ubuntu desktop dvd image is now a 1.5GB usb image but I don't think it's advertised much on ubuntu.com
[15:13] <Riddell> afiestas: do you know anything about kremotecontrol using libsolidcontrol?
[15:14] <Riddell> bcooksley says it should depend on it but there's nothing in the sources that links to it
[15:37] <allee> startkde bug: 1st login: failed write .kde/share/config/kdeglobals as config dir does not exits.  Patch at http://paste.ubuntu.com/749357/
[15:37] <allee> not really worth a time consuming bug report, isn't it?
[15:40] <Riddell> allee: looking
[15:52] <allee> I've moved the config dir creation before the if ... containing cat >> .kde/share/config/kdeglobals
[15:54] <Riddell> allee: paste.kde.org prefered over paste.ubuntu.com, p.u.c requires login for download
[15:55] <allee> Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/150998/
[15:56] <allee> in linux the 3 mkdir can be replaced by the last one, but I'm not sure if it's portable to other *ix
[15:58] <highvoltage> Riddell: hi! did kubuntu apply for lts status yet?
[15:59] <Riddell> allee: put into bzr thanks
[15:59] <Riddell> highvoltage: no, Darkwing said he'd work on the proposal
[15:59] <Riddell> not sure if he's done so yet
[15:59] <Riddell> hopefully will propose at tech board meeting on monday
[15:59] <Riddell> highvoltage: how's edubuntu getting on?
[15:59] <allee> Riddell: thx.
[16:02] <highvoltage> Riddell: whether we go 3 years or 5 years depends on what kubuntu does, since we have so much kde in there
[16:02] <Riddell> we're expecting for 5
[16:02] <highvoltage> Riddell: I think I'll just put the kubuntu conditional in our proposal then and add it to the TB agenda like that
[16:02] <highvoltage> ok, great.
[16:15] <afiestas> Riddell: it is an old dependency all the infrared code was moved away to a separate library
[16:15] <Riddell> afiestas: do you know which?
[16:18] <afiestas> Riddell: nope
[16:19] <Riddell> afiestas: ok so kremotecontrol doesn't depend on solid now?
[16:20] <afiestas> Riddell: since KDE 4.3 I think or maybe 4.4 Solid::Control only contains NetworkManagement stuff, to be removed in 4.9
[16:21] <Riddell> thanks
[16:22] <afiestas> np
[17:26] <JackyAlcine> Hey, I want to produce a mockup for KNewStuff and I always wondered why there wasn't a central spot to get new stuff as well upload straight from one UI.
[17:26] <JackyAlcine> Who would I show the mockup to and how I can get started on development with KNewStuff?
[17:33] <Riddell> JackyAlcine: that's a question for upstream KDE, #kde-devel
[17:34] <JackyAlcine> Thanks, Riddell.
[20:34] <bambee> evening
[20:37] <Darkwing> hey bambee
[20:37] <bambee> hi :)
[20:38]  * bambee is ready for akademy-fr
[20:38] <Darkwing> :)
[20:39] <bambee> I just need to improve my english and then I will be ready for fosdem :)
[21:18] <Riddell> bambee: if you come to fosdem then you can speak french with me, my french will be perfect by then
[21:19] <bambee> Riddell: we will speak french and english together :)
[21:20] <bambee> I've just to watch a lot of series english :P (like doctor who, scrubs, how I met your mother, and south park)
[21:20] <bambee> in english *
[22:46] <Riddell> yay, I have merged all of KDE SC
[22:46] <Riddell> go me
[22:47] <Riddell> although I've a nasty feeling I've done the VCS- headers wrong on most of them
[22:47] <jjesse> yay you :)
[22:49] <Riddell> still plenty more KDE related merges to do incase anyone is wanting in on the fun :)
[22:50] <Darkwing> Riddell: I'm going to do more on that proposial tonight... is there a template for it?
[22:51] <Riddell> Darkwing: there's no template other than that wiki page I pointed at and you might be able to sneek a peek at what edubuntu have done
[22:52] <Riddell> but mention nice active community who have good track record
[22:52] <Riddell> nice active upstream
[22:52] <Riddell> canonical commercial product
[22:55] <Darkwing> aye. will do.
[22:56] <Riddell> and the whole upstream platforms focusing on 5 so 4 is nice and stable
[22:58] <Riddell> agateau: some feedback from debian 22:55 < pinotree> gwenview should tell you it cannot import because it has no kamera kioslave installed
[23:02] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: kdesudo has your name next to it on merge-o-matic, are you going to merge it?