I was *that guy* in Michigan riding my fixie through snow storms.


[00:29] <NukeArch> hello
[04:34] <superfly> Maaz: tell Kilos Good morning
[04:34] <Maaz> superfly: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[06:50] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:55] <superfly> morning inetpro
[07:03] <inetpro> how's superfly
[07:05] <superfly> inetpro: fairly good thanks, got the car back yesterday, and it didn't cost the earth
[07:10] <inetpro> superfly: great! What was wrong with it?
[07:10] <superfly> blown gasket amongst other things
[07:38] <RootChaos> morning
[07:39] <inetpro> RootChaos: good morning
[07:39] <RootChaos> nice weather
[07:40] <RootChaos> in jhb
[07:40] <inetpro> and in Pta
[07:40]  * inetpro loves this weather
[07:41] <RootChaos> i stay in pta as well\
[07:41] <RootChaos> office in midrnad
[07:41] <RootChaos> * midrand
[07:52] <sakhi> mornings
[07:53] <superfly> yo
[07:53] <inetpro> sakhi: hi
[08:00] <RootChaos> anyone know how to update a .ac.za ? i need to transfer a domain over to me and i can't seem to find the information on the ac.za website - hint hint
[08:01] <RootChaos> the domain admin for .ac.za has also been awol for the past few days
[08:06] <nuvolari> o/
[08:06] <nuvolari> mornings
[08:07] <RootChaos> lo nuvolari
[09:09] <nuvolari> for once I have a good word on Vodacom, on opening the 20Gb promo bundle to contract customers
[09:10] <nuvolari> and for the 20Gb bundle in general :D
[09:10] <magespawn> howdy all
[09:12] <superfly> hiya magespawn
[09:12] <superfly> nuvolari: absolutely... we have to use HSDPA again, and the 20G bundle for R500 is a real money-saver
[09:16] <inetpro> I just hope that they will extend the offer beyond January
[10:04] <nuvolari> ye
[10:04] <nuvolari> I think they are testing their limits
[10:04] <nuvolari> involving users to push bandwidth usage
[10:19] <magespawn> is that 20G a once off prepaid option?
[10:20] <magespawn> what is the time frame for usage?
[10:32] <magespawn> it look like the 20 gig is only valid until the last day of the next calender month
[10:32] <magespawn> so you would have at the most 2 months to use 20gig
[10:53] <nuvolari> magespawn: ye :-/ unfortunately
[10:54] <nuvolari> but still, it's a great deal
[11:53] <superfly> magespawn: at the rate we go through bandwidth, I'll easily use 20 gigs a month
[11:59] <inetpro> magespawn: at this stage the deal is only available until 9 January 2012
[11:59] <inetpro> see: http://www.vodacom.co.za/personal/phonesandpackages/mygig20mofayasummerpromotion
[12:49] <zeref> o0o0, its takes vodacom 3 days to tell me that my number has been deleted
[13:22] <Squirm> hello
[13:26] <nuvolari> olləh
[13:50] <inetpro> ollah
[14:56] <zeref> o0o0
[14:56] <zeref> there was a south african based linux distro
[14:56] <zeref> Impi Linux
[15:23] <Kerbero> kongoni is also SA
[15:24] <Kerbero> iirc
[15:24] <Kerbero> and ubuntu of coarse :P
[15:26] <dLimit> impi linux too I believe
[15:26] <Kerbero> [16:56] <zeref> there was a south african based linux distro
[15:26] <Kerbero> [16:56] <zeref> Impi Linux
[15:26] <Kerbero> you joined 2 minutes later
[15:26] <Kerbero> :)
[15:28] <dLimit> Lol
[15:28] <dLimit> I never used any of those other sa distro's
[15:28] <Kerbero> me neither
[15:29] <Kerbero> ubuntu is too easy, it makes one lazy
[15:30] <dLimit> I use mainly use bodhi now.. also ubuntu based with enlightenment
[15:30] <zeref> o
[15:30] <zeref> do you guys think impi will come back
[15:31] <Kerbero> o, just nicer gui
[15:31] <Kerbero> like mint
[15:31] <Kerbero> hmm
[15:32] <Kerbero> i'd rather go with something directly debian based
[15:32] <Kerbero> like debian
[15:32] <Kerbero> :P
[15:32] <Kerbero> i should maybe try debian with gnome 3
[15:32] <zeref> o0o0
[15:32] <zeref> i tried
[15:33] <zeref> crash crash crash
[15:33] <Kerbero> hehe
[15:33] <zeref> but it got a bit stable when i removed compiz
[15:33] <Kerbero> ahh
[15:34] <Kerbero> well i'm still on unity but the bugs is the thing irritating me
[15:34] <zeref> o0o0, i thought that unity would be a bit more matured now
[15:35] <Kerbero> it is a bit yes
[15:35] <Kerbero> but for power users it is not good enough
[15:35] <zeref> but i'm not a fan of gnome 3 or unity
[15:36] <zeref> but alas will have to go to it in the future
[15:49] <superfly> or you can use KDE
[15:49] <Kerbero> says a lot of people
[15:49] <Kerbero> i installed it
[15:49] <Kerbero> but the default is to boot into unity
[15:49] <Kerbero> and 'n lazy
[15:49] <Kerbero> so my computer boots up into unity
[15:50] <Kerbero> *I'm
[15:52] <superfly> Kerbero: you should be able to change it? or is lightdm too "light"?
[15:53] <Kerbero> no idea
[15:53] <Kerbero> "i'm lazy"
[16:24] <Kilos> hehe good morning superfly whats news?
[16:24] <Kilos> hi everyone
[16:28] <zeref> *cough* evening *cough*
[16:28] <Kilos> borstol!
[16:29] <Kilos> oh you cant take evry cough to a doctor
[16:29] <Kilos> but you can take a spoon of sterns pine tar and honey
[16:30] <zeref> xD
[16:33] <Kilos> all good there zeref ?
[16:39] <zeref> hmm, things were ok bout  a sec ago
[16:39] <Kilos> oh my. what happened
[16:39] <zeref> no getting fustrated trying to  solve a python error
[16:39] <zeref> *know
[16:39] <superfly> Kilos: still nothing
[16:40] <nuvolari> Kilos: :D oom!
[16:40] <superfly> zeref: *now
[16:40] <Kilos> ok superfly we keep praying
[16:40] <nuvolari> hallo
[16:40] <superfly> zeref: what's the error?
[16:40] <Kilos> lo nuvolari
[16:40] <nuvolari> Kilos: tara het 'n nuwe songetjie opgelaai
[16:40] <nuvolari> klink super!
[16:40] <zeref> oh, ta for correcting spelling
[16:40] <Kilos> ah
[16:41] <superfly> know = knowledge
[16:41] <Kilos> naam van dit
[16:41] <superfly> now = immediately, at the moment
[16:41] <zeref> superfly; TypeError: 'int' object is unsubscriptable
[16:41] <nuvolari> Kilos: Not Me, Not I
[16:41] <Kilos> oh ya
[16:42] <superfly> zeref: you've got a variable var and you've got brackets for a list or a dict "var[0]" but var is actually an int
[16:42] <nuvolari> dLimit: ping
[16:43] <zeref> hmmm
[16:45] <Kilos> nuvolari, het jy dit afgelaai
[16:45] <Kilos> hou by jou ek sal voorentoe kry asb
[16:45] <zeref> superfly: i've got a line that says serve=player[0][0]
[16:45] <nuvolari> net gekyk oom, sal vir oom kry
[16:45] <zeref> so serve is actually an int?
[16:46] <Kilos> dankie seun
[16:46] <superfly> zeref: no, which variable has the brackets?
[16:46] <superfly> (and put spaces around your = sign, PEP 8)
[16:51] <zeref> ok, umm, i've put def play(player)
[16:51] <zeref> player is an array
[16:52] <superfly> there's no such thing as an array in python
[16:52] <superfly> it's a list, I presume?
[16:53] <superfly> and you're sure it's a list?
[16:53] <superfly> and each item in the list is a list?
[16:54] <zeref> lol, thinking in c++ now, yeah list.
[16:54] <zeref> umm lemme post code
[16:59] <dLimit> nuvolari, pong
[17:04] <zeref> oh wait, found it
[17:06] <nuvolari> dLimit: do you use 2 screens(with enlightenment)?
[17:07] <nuvolari> I tried it for about 2 days, but with dualscreens it's a bit annoying
[17:07] <superfly> zeref: so, what was the issue?
[17:11] <zeref> player list was not defined properly
[17:13] <superfly> :-)
[17:14] <zeref> meh
[17:14] <zeref> its back
[17:16] <zeref> http://codepad.org/mAqZ0zcj
[17:16] <zeref> error is in line 10
[17:18] <zeref> but if i uncomment line 198 and 199 it works fine
[17:24] <superfly> Alright, I'll have a look in a moment - need to get back to my PC
[17:29] <superfly> zeref: I recommen you read this: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/
[17:36] <zeref> kk
[17:36] <superfly> zeref: I don't know what's going into "player" but that's where your error isa
[17:42] <zeref> yeah
[17:42] <zeref> player is a list
[17:44] <zeref> line 198 shows what goes in
[17:46] <superfly> zeref: but is player[0] a list?
[17:47] <zeref> yep
[17:47] <zeref> its player[[],[]]
[20:16] <nuvolari>  whoa :D congrats superfly!
[20:16]  * nuvolari does catch-up on facebook
[20:38] <zeref> hmmmm
[23:33] <zeref> omg, emacs is sexy


[03:10] <phung> SCIM used to show up in Hardy's top panel (alpha/beta). How do I bring that back?
[03:19] <mib_3lmofd> hi, anyone can help to subdownloader?
[03:19] <mib_3lmofd> :)
[04:46] <cyphase> no desktop cd for alpha 1?
[04:50] <WelshDragon> No live CD's for alpha one. You'll need to use the alternate CD :)
[04:50] <WelshDragon> cyphase ^^
[05:01] <DanaG> How to run a bug jam?
[05:01] <DanaG> Mmm, bug jam.  Tasty.
[05:01] <DanaG> =þ
[05:07] <DanaG> !find kdecorations
[05:07] <DanaG> ¿?
[05:08] <DanaG> !find libkdecorations
[05:09] <DanaG> aah, just append '4'
[06:05] <Ziroday> Is alpha 1 released yet?
[06:06] <Ziroday> wait never mind
[08:12] <anna> Intrepid is still not alpha, is it?
[08:14] <Sebastian> Alpha 1 is out.
[08:14] <Sebastian> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-June/000440.html
[08:45] <anna> So the topic could be changed to ALPHA instead of PRE-ALPHA :-)
[15:26] <LeeJarratt> Hello
[15:26] <LeeJarratt> Is this for talking about Intrepid Ibex?
[15:29] <elky> LeeJarratt, yes.
[15:30] <LeeJarratt> Is there a way I can download the new theme in intrepid, without having to upgrade to Alpha 1?
[15:57] <javaJake> The Alpha 1 release currently crashes in VirtualBox.
[15:57] <javaJake> Are there any ways around that or any fixes?
[16:01] <scizzo-> javaJake: For people to help you its good to say what happens when virtualbox crashes
[16:01] <scizzo-> javaJake: do you mean that you run virtualbox in Ibex or running ubuntu ibex in virtualbox?
[16:01] <scizzo-> javaJake: and if so what is the error you get?
[16:02] <WelshDragon> Is there anyway to actually show that you're running ibex on a laptop and not a desktop?
[16:05] <scizzo-> WelshDragon: only in lspci I would say
[16:05] <scizzo-> WelshDragon: not 100% sure though
[16:05] <scizzo-> WelshDragon: or dmesg
[16:05] <WelshDragon> Will have a quick look, ta :)
[16:06] <javaJake> scizzo-: I ran Ibex in VB
[16:06] <scizzo-> javaJake: ok so it crashes in the virtualbox
[16:06] <scizzo-> javaJake: however when does it crash? at boot? when running?
[16:07] <javaJake> scizzo-: and there's very little in the way of error messages. Just tells me a "critical error" occured, and this happens when the kernel is loading/just run.
[16:07] <javaJake> I can post the log and screenshot generated if desired
[16:07] <javaJake> There are some generic, repetitive on-screen error(s) :P
[16:07] <scizzo-> pastebin the errors
[16:08] <WelshDragon> lspci mentions the mobile chipset, thanks scizzo-  :)
[16:14] <scizzo-> WelshDragon: np
[16:14] <javaJake> http://pastebin.com/d471b0617
[16:16] <javaJake> Sorry for being a dense "ive got a problems" person to start with :P
[16:17] <scizzo-> javaJake: you just upgraded from hardy on that image?
[16:18] <koto> does someone know where to get ubuntu-modules-2.6.26 for intrepid? they are missing on my system :(
[16:18] <scizzo-> koto: you mean the linux-ubuntu-modules-*
[16:18] <scizzo-> ?
[16:18] <koto> scizzo: yep
[16:19] <koto> scizzo: they are missing on my system and I need uvcvideo
[16:19] <scizzo-> koto: sudo apt-cache search linux-ubuntu-modules
[16:19] <koto> scizzo: I can only install 2.6.24
[16:19] <scizzo-> those modules are there?
[16:20] <scizzo-> 2.6.24 that is?
[16:20] <javaJake> scizzo-: no, I downloaded the ISO
[16:20] <koto> scizzo: yep, but the latest kernel is <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:20] <koto> scizzo: so I need modules for this kernel
[16:20] <koto> scizzo: or is there a way to build these modules from source?
[16:20] <scizzo-> koto: sounds like those modules are not build yet by the developers then
[16:20] <scizzo-> not sure though
[16:22] <scizzo-> javaJake: so install went fine and so on...then when booting the virtualbox image you get this?
[16:23] <scizzo-> koto: doesn't apt-cache show linux-openvz tell you anything about the current version then?
[16:25] <koto> scizzo: but I'm confused because intrepid uses kernel <IP_ADDRESS> as the standard kernel now. and they already ship restricted modules and other stuff as well. I just need this uvcdriver :)
[16:26] <koto> btw, that's the difference between amd64 and ia64? how can I find out which one I have installed?
[16:27] <crdlb> koto: ia64 is intel's itanium, you don't have that
[16:28] <koto> crdlb: but amd64 sound like an AMD chip - I don't have one
[16:28] <crdlb> it's not
[16:29] <crdlb> AMD just designed it, so they're in the name
[16:29] <crdlb> intel calls it EM64T, but it's identical
[16:30] <koto> crdlb: ok, thanks. do you know anything about the 2.6.26 modules?
[17:34] <javaJake> scizzo-: sorry, lost ssh for a moment
[17:34] <javaJake> scizzo-: back. I'm trying to boot the CD.
[17:34] <javaJake> So I can install. :)
[17:34] <javaJake> It crashes after I select Install from the disk menu
[17:35] <javaJake> Well, after I select it, and after it says "Loading" and the screen goes black, anyway
[17:40] <zerwas> is someone here using the intrepid theme with hardy?
[17:40] <zerwas> when i activate it it looks like the engine is missing
[17:54] <WelshDragon> Any known problems with xchat in intrepid?
[17:54] <RAdams> hiya. I've got a laptop running hardy here, but I'd like to install the .25 kernel. I realize I will have to do some fixing, for instance, I might have to grab the very newest nvidia driver, and some other patches, but is it possible to just enable the intrepid repos and grab the kernel so I have the option to boot to it? I believe the .25 family has a fix for a problem I'm having
[19:25] <DanaG> argh, damn flash!
[19:25] <DanaG> It only works for ONE page per run of Firefox/
[19:26] <selckin> good websites don't use it anyway
[19:29] <DanaG> Yeah, but like 100% of online video sites use it.
[19:46] <cyphase> i'm running the alpha 1 alternate cd in virtualbox, and as soon as it loads that first language dialog, it freezes
[19:50] <AtomicSpark> cyphase, not to be a smartbutt or anything, but I wouldn't really expect an alpha 1 to work on many machines. :P
[19:51] <AtomicSpark> i couldn't get 8.10 to work on my laptop till after release. :\
[19:52] <cyphase> AtomicSpark: i understand it's an alpha :). but i think i should at least be able to choose the language in the boot screen, before even the installer
[19:52] <cyphase> AtomicSpark: 8.04* :)
[19:54] <AtomicSpark> yes yes. there have been problems with installers before in betas. i suppose you could burn it at a lower speed. you can't even get to the verifier i assume.
[23:01] <maccam94> how are features now decided? in edgy through gutsy, there were Community____Ideas pages on the wiki, but hardy didn't have any such pages, and i don't see any for intrepid either
[23:02] <maccam94> i'm talking about pages like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityFeistyIdeas
[23:29] <rpedro> maccam94: search for "ubuntu brainstorm"


[14:08] <pdurbin> I think this will be recorded: dc13: Women in Debian 2013 - http://penta.debconf.org/dc13_schedule/track/Community%20outreach/1012.en.html
[14:08] <pdurbin> or at least streamed live, like http://video.debconf.org:8000/talkroom2.ogv is right now


[00:00] <Xnet0> starcraftman: have you played around with your alsamixer settings?
[00:00] <NLblackberry> ehm use windows 7 starcraft, everything works like a charm
[00:01] <Xnet0> windows is evil.. linux is the best.
[00:01] <Xnet0> starcraftman: anyways. Type "alsamixer" in the Konsole. Check that all level are up. especially pc,
[00:01] <Xnet0> pcm**
[00:05] <Xnet0> yes thats correct; thats correct . but when did you satart>
[00:06] <Xnet0> sorry again
[00:16] <beyondcr> is there a way to view a log for a program that is runing under wine it keeps crashing i want to find whats stoping
[00:18] <Xnet0> beyondcr: not sure.. what are you trying to run??
[00:18] <Xnet0> beyondcr: steam by any chance??
[00:18] <beyondcr> noo
[00:19] <beyondcr> worldpac speeddial
[00:19] <beyondcr> its a auto parts catalog
[00:19] <Xnet0> not sure i can help you there. im unaware of that program..
[00:19] <beyondcr> its the only thing thats stoping me from chaning my shop to linux
[00:20] <beyondcr> dum asses stoped support for linux
[00:22] <beyondcr> so theres no way i can get a debug mode for wine
[00:23] <beyondcr> that would show me whats being excuted
[00:26] <Xnet0> beyondcr: what does the programe do?? could you write a new one?? in Java perhaps?
[00:27] <Xnet0> beyondcr: if its not too complicated, you could write your own.
[00:27] <beyondcr> well
[00:29] <beyondcr> check it out once it is i would need to find the way there data base is layed out it connects to a server you login slecte the parts you want to order its like a online catalog but its built into a program.....
[00:29] <beyondcr> http://www.worldpac.com/sd.html
[00:45] <Speaker-To-Compu> I have just installed Kubuntu, and I find that it came with no screensavers.  I tried installing the xscreensaver RPM, but it errored multiple times.  I really don't want to try to compile it myself, I wouldnt know were to begin.
[00:53] <alutza> how do i reinstall plasma-desktop ?
[00:53] <alutza> i really need to know im desperate
[00:55] <aru_s> alutza: sudo apt-get remove plasma-desktop && sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop
[00:56] <alutza> "can't find package plasma-desktop"
[00:58] <aru_s> ok
[00:59] <aru_s> I think plasma-desktop is in kdebase-workspace
[00:59] <alutza> oh boy
[01:00] <aru_s> Im checking right now
[01:00] <alutza> is it reinstallable?
[01:00] <aru_s> looks like all the plasma stuff is pulled in by that
[01:00] <aru_s> anything is reinstallable
[01:00] <alutza> ok so how?
[01:00] <alutza> same way? apt-get
[01:00] <aru_s> yeah
[01:00] <aru_s> you may want to be at a command line when doing that, though
[01:01] <alutza> or in ubuntu
[01:01] <alutza> not kubuntu
[01:01] <aru_s> may I ask why you need to reinstall?
[01:01] <alutza> i upgraded and the kickoff is bugged
[01:01] <alutza> it doesnt show hard drives in computer tab
[01:01] <alutza> although they are mounted
[01:02] <alutza> if i run the command from ubuntu is it ok? or do i need to be in comand line?
[01:02] <aru_s> dunno if reinstalling will fix that
[01:02] <aru_s> but you can try
[01:02] <alutza> im trying at least
[01:02] <aru_s> it should be fine from within ubuntu
[01:02] <alutza> ok
[01:02] <alutza> brb
[01:09] <EagleScreen> any application to convert from ogg to mp3?
[01:10] <heldDirk> EagleScreen: mencoder maybe?
[01:15] <aru_s> Eagle: use audacity with the lame plugin?
[01:19] <phh> EagleScreen: ffmpeg -i source.ogg out.mp3
[01:19] <phh> you can set bitrate with -ab (in bps!) or quality with -aq
[01:19] <EagleScreen> can lame convert from ogg to mp3?
[01:24] <aru_s> if you can open it in audacity, you can encode it through lame
[01:24] <aru_s> vlc should also do transcoding in a user-friendlyish fashion
[01:28] <Helliana> Can someone please help me getting sound to work in Wine?
[01:28] <Helliana> works everywhere else
[01:29] <EagleScreen> it would be nice to rip Audio CDs directly in MP3 to no to have to conver them later
[01:30] <Helliana> anyone?
[01:30] <EagleScreen> K3b is failing for me, it apparently rip the tracks well, but later the output file is not there (missing)
[01:35] <sharif> Hello
[01:35] <sharif> How to make firewall as service to start evertime system starts ?
[01:36] <sharif> !help
[01:36] <heldDirk> sharif: how do you start you firewall now?
[01:36] <sharif> i just click on it
[01:36] <heldDirk> on which program
[01:37] <sharif> firestarter
[01:37] <sharif> is there anything better ?
[01:37] <aru_s> sharif: go to the advanced tab in system settings
[01:38] <aru_s> there should be an autostart item
[01:38] <aru_s> you can add and manage your autostart items there.
[01:39] <sharif> firestarter need to start as admin
[01:39] <Pici> Firestarter doesn't need to be running for the rules to be in effect.
[01:40] <sharif> do you suggest better firewall or other firewall ?
[01:42] <sharif> are you there ?
[01:42] <sharif> anyone
[01:42] <sharif> do i got lag ?
[01:45] <sharif> anyone here?
[01:48] <yurimxpxman> have any of you been able to get the myspace music player to work with flash 10?
[01:48] <Helliana> Can someone PLEASE help me with wine and kubuntu 9.04 before i punch a hole in my monitor?
[01:52] <beyondcr> whats up Helliana
[01:53] <sharif> yes, we could help you
[01:53] <sharif> Ask your question
[01:53] <beyondcr> i guess they punched a hole in the monitor
[01:53] <beyondcr> ....
[01:54] <sharif> Helliana may have lags
[01:55] <Helliana> i'm not getting any sound from wine
[01:55] <Helliana> works everywhere else
[01:55] <heldDirk> sharif: I use iptables (or an iptables based script...)
[01:55] <beyondcr> Helliana do you have sound with everything else?
[01:55] <sharif> heldDirk : is iptables a gui ?
[01:56] <starcraftman> quick question, is there a thumbnailer for Kubuntu? I've installed restricted extras but I don't see any thumbs for any videos.
[01:56] <heldDirk> sharif: no
[01:56] <sharif> heldDirk : I want GUI software so i did use firestarter much easier
[01:57] <sharif> heldDirk : but not updated i guess
[01:57] <Helliana> beyondcr: yes
[01:57] <chx> how can i close the many windows kopete opens? (or any other app for that matter) I currently shut down kopete to do this and restart which surely is a hamhanded approach
[01:57] <heldDirk> sharif: isn't there any help in the help function how to start it automatically.. (it looks to me that's a basic feature of a firewall)
[01:57] <sharif> heldDirk : is there software that i select the name and write my message in IRC ?
[01:57] <heldDirk> chx: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE (will kill your X too, but at least your windows are gone)
[01:58] <aru_s> isn't that disabled in Jaunty?
[01:58] <sharif> heldDirk : No it dose not have this feature .. i think it should ..
[01:58] <chx> no, that's disabled in Jaunty
[01:58] <beyondcr> Helliana do you have the latest version?
[01:58] <heldDirk> sharif: which irc application are you using right now?
[01:58] <aru_s> stupid decision, in my opinion.
[01:58] <sharif> heldDirk : Konversation
[01:58] <Helliana> beyondcr: yep... however i just rebooted and things just... work.
[01:58] <beyondcr> k
[01:58] <beyondcr> =)
[01:58] <Helliana> hopefully they won't stop =/
[01:58] <beyondcr> gl
[01:59] <heldDirk> sharif: when you type a beginning of a name and press TAB, the program will type the rest (if possible)
[01:59] <sharif> heldDirk: yah
[01:59] <sharif> heldDirk: correct
[02:00] <aru_s> here's how to enable control alt backspace: http://albertomilone.com/wordpress/?p=312
[02:00] <sharif> heldDirk: you really great, how long you been using ubuntu ?
[02:01] <heldDirk> I have been using linux for a long time  (ubuntu since 1-2 years)
[02:03] <heldDirk> sharif: how is your ubuntu experience so far?
[02:07] <starcraftman> Anyone? Seems like Dolphin should support thumbnails, nobody knows how to make it so?
[02:07] <aru_s> you have to click the button in the toolbar to select the view for the folder
[02:08] <heldDirk> starcraftman: did you enable 'show preview'?
[02:12] <MushroomKingdom> How do I use the LiveCD of Kubuntu for recovery? My GRUB loader is gone because I put XP on.
[02:12] <MushroomKingdom> And I need it back cause XP needs sum drivers
[02:13] <heldDirk> Mushroom: google 'restoring ubuntu grub after windows xp' and you will find: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:14] <MushroomKingdom> Aight. It's not easy enough to tell me?
[02:14] <aru_s> its easier to see it typed out on a page in sequential order.
[02:15] <heldDirk> MushroomKingdom: sorry.. know name.
[02:15] <MushroomKingdom> Ok. Looks pretty straight forward
[02:15] <heldDirk> good luck
[02:20] <MushroomKingdom> Ok, everything looks good. Prepare to resend me that link when I get back on
[02:30] <mooperd> hi, I have two ethernet controllers on my machine but ubuntu is only picking up the one. Shouldnt it handle this automatically? is there an easy way of bringing up the other?
[02:30] <mooperd> hi, I have two ethernet controllers on my machine but ubuntu is only picking up the one. Shouldnt it handle this automatically? is there an easy way of bringing up the other?
[02:31] <mooperd> whoops sorry
[02:31] <FloodBotK1> mooperd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:35] <MushroomKingdom> Damn, didn't work
[02:36] <heldDirk> MushroomKingdom: google 'restoring ubuntu grub after windows xp' and you will find: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:36] <MushroomKingdom> Thank ya
[02:36] <digmore> hi, I ssh to an old solaris and found that the left arrow key is 'not working' (i.e. it produce ^[[D) and the up arrow key has similar behaviour. How I do fix it?
[02:36] <heldDirk> hit backspace
[02:37] <digmore> because sometimes I make mistakes, but I am not able to change the command line
[02:40] <MushroomKingdom> Hmmmm..... I did everything it told me to, still nothing
[02:41] <MushroomKingdom> Could I just apt-get install GRUB?
[02:41] <high-rez> Is there a plugin for kubuntu/dolphin that allows one to view raw image formats?  E.g. nikon nef...
[02:43] <MushroomKingdom> Uh, is my idea plausible
[02:56] <MushroomKingdom> Ok, I followed the instructions buuutttttt
[02:56] <MushroomKingdom> How do I tell Windows where to find GRUB? It doesn't tell me how
[02:57] <heldDirk> MushroomKingdom: you are now working in windows?
[02:57] <MushroomKingdom> No, still on the live cd
[02:57] <MushroomKingdom> No internet on windows right now. I need Kububtu working so I can download the drivers
[03:00] <EagleScreen> MushroomKingdom: what is your problem?
[03:13] <sharif> hella
[03:20] <snarkster> ok i need some information.. Im trying to watch a video on my bigscreen from a computer attached to it using vlc and it hardlocks the computer. has anyone heard of a media player hardlocking a computer?
[03:22] <MushroomKingdom> I'm getting rid of windows for now. Going to reinstall over my entire harddrive this weekend to dual boot windows and linux
[03:22] <MushroomKingdom> Thanks for all your help guys
[03:23] <snarkster> thanx for nothing
[03:27] <sharif> hello
[03:27] <sharif> is this correct method to start firewall in startup applications : exec /user/sbin/firestarter
[03:29] <sharif> heldDirk: are you still here?
[03:29] <sharif> !help
[03:33] <sharif> I had problem in display preferences .. the monitor says unknown when i restart now i am not able to change to 1024
[03:33] <sharif> How i am able to fix it ?
[03:38] <pucko-> unknown resolution?
[03:39] <pucko-> and no, that is not the correct way to start the firewall
[03:40] <Zxcvb> is there a good guide to using hal?
[03:53] <Zxcvb> ok, how do you get the nvidia driver to work after installing it?
[03:55] <Zxcvb> the only way I can get it to work is to use it's included xorg.conf, which is bad
[04:03] <Kalmi_> Zxcvb, it should just work... (at least it does for me).... I cannot help you... I'm just saying that it just works for me after installing and restarting...
[04:03] <cor> hi. If I have a wifi net connexion (v, fast) and a wired connexion (so-so), how do I prevent my puter switching to the wired DNS when I plug in the cable?
[04:03] <cor> I want to stuill connect to the LAN, but use the WiFi for internet
[04:04] <Zxcvb> Kalmi_: the problem is I had to install from the nvidia site due to newer kernels (made a <IP_ADDRESS> kpkg) not being supported
[04:04] <cor> it's a local hotspot. free and fast.
[04:04] <Zxcvb> Kalmi_: then I reverted xorg.conf (because you aren't supposed to use xorg.conf anymore) but I can't figure out how to tell X to use the nvidia driver (I assume I need to make a hal fdi file)
[04:04] <cor> as soon as I plug in the LAN, WAM! it switches to my wired DNS settings. NM doesn't seem to have any control over it.
[04:05] <Kalmi_> cor, um... why? :)
[04:05] <cor> 1Mb/s Vs 200Kb/s
[04:05] <cor> see?
[04:05] <Kalmi_> what's wrong with the hotspots dns?
[04:06] <cor> it's fine. but as soon as I plug in Cat-5, I'm switched over to my landline net, somehow
[04:06] <cor> resolve conf seems to update itself
[04:06] <cor> nm, I presume
[04:07] <cor> I simply want it to *prefer* wireless.  Is there anyone who can help me with some details with KmyMoney?
[04:40] <Kubou> Or maybe there is a dedicated channel
[04:55] <Ulric> whats the deal with openSUSE?
[05:29] <newbthinkpad600e> any body do newb help around here?
[05:29] <newbthinkpad600e> got a total newb here with no  sound on jaunty jackolope
[05:30] <sharif> how to run terminal as admin
[05:30] <disconect> so, I'm confused about ubuntu/kubuntu version numbers...the website gives me the choice of 8.04 or 9.04, but I understand there's also an 8.10 - why is that not on the website?
[05:32] <disconect> I'm not sure about KDE4, so downloaded 8.04 - but should I have got 8.10?  which isn't on the website
[05:33] <newbthinkpad600e> direction for help ? been googlin but its just not workin out, i need a crash course or somethin
[05:36] <TuxPurple> sharif, use sudo
[05:39] <sharif> sudo: terminal: command not found
[05:39] <sharif> TuxPurple:    I've try to use sudo but not working - sudo: terminal: command not found
[05:40] <TuxPurple> sharif, which command are you trying to run?
[05:41] <TuxPurple> sharif, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:41] <sharif> TuxPurple: I want run terminal as admin so i wrote "sudo terminal"
[05:44] <TuxPurple> sharif, open a terminal first, sudo gives you temporary admin privilege. Prefix any command with sudo to run it as admin
[05:45] <sharif> TuxPurple: this means i will not be able to open terminal as admin
[05:48] <TuxPurple> sharif, please refer to the link I have pasted above
[05:48] <TuxPurple> sharif, you can start a root shell using "sudo -i" in terminal
[05:49] <sharif> TuxPurple: I got it use alt + f2 then Type “sudo su”. Check the box: ‘run in terminal’
[05:50] <newbthinkpad600e> where can i find help for total newb?
[05:52] <svist> здесь кто-то есть?
[05:53] <hocuspocus> can someone please help me with a security issue?<<
[05:53] <sharif> newbthinkpad600e: you can find help in http://ubuntuforums.org
[05:54] <sharif> hocuspocus: yes we can what the problem you have ?
[05:57] <hocuspocus> well I know I have a bogus ISP and I wanted somone to check out this pastebin link and tell me exactly where the spying/manipulation is
[05:57] <hocuspocus>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/224088/
[05:58] <hocuspocus> for some strange reason It says network map in annonymous
[05:59] <sharif> hocuspocus: well, i did not undertstand the problem you have ..
[06:01] <hocuspocus> well as I stated if you would read the pastebin you would see where someone wrote a annonymous map to my updates
[06:18] <newbthinkpad600e> please guys, just a little push everything else is great on this tp, got the wireless workin myself and everything but the sound just won't work i ask again, can a newb get some help with sound on thinkpad 600e
[06:23] <Zxcvb> has anyone gotten kde 4.2.4 to work without problems?
[06:24] <Zxcvb> for example, kpackagekit "you do not have the necessary privilidges to do whatever"
[06:26] <DaskreeCH> Zxcvb: have you tried.. ahh blast
[06:27] <DaskreeCH> newbthinkpad600e: I'm guessing you read the sound wiki ?
[06:29] <newbthinkpad600e> ok sound wiki looking to see if its in my history
[06:31] <newbthinkpad600e> would you be so kind as to gimme a link to that?
[06:32] <Helliana> Can someone please help me getting sound to work in flash with Firefox?
[06:32] <Helliana> works everywhere else, just not in firefox
[06:32] <sharif> Helliana: which version you are using
[06:32] <Helliana> version of what?
[06:33] <Helliana> Kubuntu 9.4, firefox 3.0 and 3.5, don't know what version of flash whatever is in the repositories
[06:35] <sharif> Helliana: did you try any site maybe the flash file dose not have sound
[06:35] <Helliana> well the youtube videos have sound on my laptop, so yes, they have sound
[06:37] <DaskreeCH> !sound | newbthinkpad600e
[06:37] <newbthinkpad600e> so i type aplay -1 like in the help.ubuntu.com/community/sound troubleshooting but it says invalid option
[06:40] <Helliana> sound works FINE everywhere else
[06:40] <Helliana> just not in firefox
[06:41] <newbthinkpad600e> ? what is kmenu in kmenu > system settings> sound system
[06:41] <newbthinkpad600e> ubuntu jaunty here
[06:42] <DaskreeCH> newbthinkpad600e: The Blue button in lower left
[06:43] <Helliana> is there anyone that can possibly help?
[06:44] <DaskreeCH> Helliana: I"m assuming you mean sound doen't work in flash?
[06:44] <newbthinkpad600e> i just need mine so aMSN will chime (and irc)
[06:44] <Helliana> DaskreeCH: correct.
[06:44] <DaskreeCH> newbthinkpad600e: Oh also check to make sure that nothing is muted or turned all the way down
[06:44] <newbthinkpad600e> um. lower left has show desktop
[06:44] <newbthinkpad600e> checked mute and sound,  playback device listed is null
[06:44] <DaskreeCH> Helliana: I've heard about that bug can't recall the fix now
[06:45] <DaskreeCH> newbthinkpad600e: alt+F2 and type system settings
[06:45] <Helliana> DaskreeCH: I've tried everything i can find online, nothing is working
[06:46] <Helliana> DaskreeCH: installed kubuntu on my laptop the other day... everything is working perfectly
[06:46] <Helliana> i DO NOT understand.
[06:46] <DaskreeCH> except firefox and sound.
[06:46] <DaskreeCH> Hmm does Sound work in Konquerror or arora ?
[06:47] <Helliana> Sound doesn't working in any embedded flash it loks like
[06:47] <sharif> Q : How to be able to access subdirectory in Apache2  -  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1219669
[06:48] <sharif> Helliana: i do not think its general issue
[06:49] <Helliana> sharif: what does that mean?
[06:53] <Helliana> So.... anyone have any ideas?
[06:55] <sharif> Helliana: ok try to uninstall the flash player
[06:55] <sharif> Helliana: close your brower
[06:56] <sharif> and then open fireofox again and when you open site with flash you notice that you do not have flash
[06:57] <sharif> Helliana: now you can install other version like when click on install missing plugins
[06:57] <sharif> Helliana: try to use "Swfdec"
[06:57] <sharif> Helliana: or "gnash"
[06:58] <sharif> Helliana: your choice if one works fine for you then let me know...
[07:00] <Helliana> sharif: not working...
[07:00] <sharif> Helliana: which one you choose ?
[07:00] <newbthinkpad600e> Error stating file '/home/clint/system-settings': No such file or directory
[07:01] <sharif> newbthinkpad600e: when you got this error ?
[07:01] <sharif> newbthinkpad600e: what you was trying to do ?
[07:01] <sharif> Helliana: which plugin you are using ?
[07:02] <Helliana> neither are working
[07:02] <Helliana> I even tried installing flash from the adobe site
[07:02] <Helliana> i get video but no audio
[07:02] <sharif> alright ..
[07:03] <newbthinkpad600e> Error stating file '/home/clint/system-settings': No such file or directory
[07:03] <sharif> try download the swf file and play it with *.swf player see what happens
[07:03] <Helliana> i'm guessing its a pulse audio problem
[07:03] <Helliana> pulseaudio doesn't seem to work...
[07:03] <newbthinkpad600e> trying to follow in structions alt f2 system settings to get to sound something
[07:04] <sharif> Helliana: the audio dose not work in any player ?
[07:04] <Helliana> works in amarok
[07:05] <sharif> Helliana: do you think its firefox brower
[07:05] <sharif> Helliana: okay try another browser
[07:05] <Helliana> its flash.
[07:05] <Helliana> any browser that uses flash doesn't work.
[07:06] <sharif> Helliana: try post in  http://ubuntuforums.org
[07:10] <Helliana> why did i ever switch to kubuntu =(
[07:10] <Helliana> should have just stuck with gentoo =/
[07:10] <sharif> oh
[07:20] <DaskreeCH> Helliana: Pulseaudio isn't installed on Kubuntu. If you like you can install it
[07:20] <Helliana> i've done said hell with. its pissed me off too much.
[07:21] <Helliana> i'll go back to gentoo, that way i'll KNOW things work
[07:25] <newbthinkpad600e> is gentoo open source? free?
[07:26] <newbthinkpad600e> so i read lots of stuff and discover that a file called tp_smapi will help with sound on tp600e
[07:26] <newbthinkpad600e> i get the file and read the read me but don't know where to type the commands
[07:27] <newbthinkpad600e> it says "
[07:27] <newbthinkpad600e> To compile and install into the kernel's module path:
[07:27] <newbthinkpad600e> # make install
[07:29] <newbthinkpad600e> so where do i type commands at ? terminal?
[07:30] <newbthinkpad600e> ?
[07:40] <newbthinkpad600e> so now i have a walk through but still no idea how to follow it, missing basic introduction
[08:17] <Mamarok> newbthinkpad600e: what is your question exactly?
[08:17] <newbthinkpad600e> alright
[08:17] <newbthinkpad600e> so the problem is no sound on fresh install of ubuntu jaunty
[08:18] <newbthinkpad600e> i can't even figure out how to install the tp_smapi that is suppost to fix problem
[08:18] <newbthinkpad600e> tells me how to do it but forgot to tell me where/how to type in commands
[08:18] <takoma> Hello
[08:18] <Mamarok> newbthinkpad600e: I don't think that is the problem
[08:19] <Mamarok> newbthinkpad600e: did you check that nothing is muted on your system?
[08:19] <Mamarok> newbthinkpad600e: you are using Kubuntu, right?
[08:19] <ibrar> How to get kernel complete source what I have on my  9.04 machine
[08:20] <newbthinkpad600e> no, using jaunty ubuntu
[08:20] <Mamarok> ibrar: the source is in the repository, just activate the sources in your package manager
[08:20] <newbthinkpad600e> nothing is muted,
[08:20] <Guest53125> ibrar what do you exactly need
[08:20] <Mamarok> newbthinkpad600e: then you should ask in #ubuntu as it is Gnome related, we do KDE support here
[08:20] <ibrar> I need to modify the code
[08:20] <Mamarok> ibrar: why?
[08:21] <Guest53125> can anybody help me to install from the konsole printers
[08:21] <ibrar> Intresting, Actually I have modified iproute2 and need to apply my patch on ubuntu source
[08:21] <ibrar> I have tested it on vanila kernel
[08:22] <newbthinkpad600e> k, am trying #ubuntu
[08:22] <Mamarok> ibrar: you don't need to modify the kernel source, just load the module
[08:22] <newbthinkpad600e> only took 4hours to get a response in here, maybe more on that one eh?
[08:22] <Mamarok> newbthinkpad600e: not everybody is awake as it seems, we are all volunteers here
[08:22] <Guest53125> newbthikpad600 what exactly do you need
[08:22] <ibrar> Mamarok: Actully I have modified the iproute2 code and need to apply that
[08:23] <Mamarok> Guest53125: please, don't interfere
[08:23] <ibrar> I have activated the source
[08:23] <ibrar> repo
[08:23] <Guest53125> fuck you mamarok
[08:23] <Mamarok> ibrar: then download th kernel source
[08:23] <ibrar> What should I write apt-get install kernel-source?
[08:23] <Guest53125> as you said we all are involved
[08:23] <Mamarok> Guest53125: please behave!
[08:23] <Guest53125> sure
[08:24] <ibrar> Bad to see these kind of words here
[08:25] <ibrar> Mamarok: What should I apt-get
[08:25] <Mamarok> ibrar: no, the kernel has another name, wait, I'll tell you
[08:26] <takoma> I have one question...Can i install games on Kubuntu? And how?....new to this...instaled last night so any info is appreciated
[08:27] <Mamarok> ibrar: the name is probably linux-something
[08:27] <Mamarok> phone, brb
[08:29] <takoma>  I have one question...Can i install games on Kubuntu? And how?....new to this...instaled last night so any info is appreciated
[08:31] <Mamarok> takoma: you can install the package ubuntu-desktop
[08:32] <Mamarok> ibrar: the exact instruction how to get the source and how to compile a new kernel are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[08:33] <Guest88827> help
[08:33] <Mamarok> !ask | Guest88827
[08:33] <Guest88827> how can i install a network printer from konsole
[08:34] <takoma>  I have one question...Can i install games on Kubuntu? And how?....new to this...instaled last night so any info is appreciated
[08:35] <Mamarok> takoma: there are games available in the games section of the package manager, but I guess you talk about other games?
[08:36] <Mamarok> !printer | Guest88827
[08:36] <Mamarok> Guest88827: use the instructions for cups
[08:36] <Guest88827> what is cups
[08:37] <Mamarok> well, read the link I gave you, please
[08:37] <Guest88827> thanks
[08:37] <takoma> Yes sorry for not being clear on that ... intrested in running Windows games, especialy WoW and Warcraft3
[08:38] <Mamarok> takoma: then you need wine:
[08:38] <Mamarok> !wine
[08:39] <Mamarok> or run a VM for Windows
[08:39] <takoma> thank you
[08:40] <Mamarok> takoma: you are welcome :)
[08:42] <Guest88827> thanks  ubottu i read already
[08:44] <jimmy_> hey does anyone know how to make eclipse use my kde theme?
[08:51] <Captain_Hadd0ck> jimmy_: eclipse = java... KDE = qt; they're unlikely to share themes unless the themes have been ported.
[08:52] <ibrar> Mamarok: I have installed: Whats its default location
[08:55] <ibrar> I have installed linux-source using apt-get; where it is installed ?
[08:56] <Mamarok> ibrar: doesn't the link I gave you tell you where it is? should be in /boot AFAIK
[08:58] <ibrar> Mamarok: It installed correctly but where?
[08:59] <Mamarok> ibrar: I just read the description, it should be in /boot, see the link I gave you on how to compile a kernel
[08:59] <dwidmann> :O Kate in KDE 4.3 has just become my new best friend! It autocompletes my variables names :)
[08:59] <Mamarok> dwidmann: nice :)
[09:09] <dfaure> upgraded another machine to jaunty -> FAIL. fglrx breaks, and the kernel oopses. Googled and found only this: http://pastebin.com/f50ca5884
[09:11] <Mamarok> dfaure: hi, the problem is the fglrx driver, they removed support for older cards about 6 months ago
[09:11]  * Mamarok blames ATI-AMD
[09:12] <dfaure> yes I see that. But then why did ubuntu upgrade to xorg-1.6? :(
[09:12] <Mamarok> dfaure: ask the Ubuntu core devs, not our decision :(
[09:23] <osa> where can i download restricted drivers in kubuntu?
[09:25] <eps1lon> I don't know if I missed doing something, but I just installed 9.04 and updated it and all that. Desktop effects are on, but my panel isn't transparent. I'm a newbie to this so I apologize if I just missed something really obvious; but how do I make it transparent?
[09:26] <osa> restricted drivers ;)
[09:26] <eps1lon> I installed that
[09:26] <eps1lon> (and rebooted)
[09:29] <eps1lon> osa: Any ideas?
[09:31] <eps1lon> osa: Oh, I was talking to you when you weren't here.
[09:31] <eps1lon> osa: Do you have any other ideas?
[09:31] <eps1lon> Or anyone else for that matter.
[09:31] <osa> is there any other ways to install restricted drivers? i cant istall with system > hardware drivers
[09:31] <osa> epsilon sorry, i tried to restart
[09:31] <osa> i cant install restricted drivers now :)
[09:32] <CptnAwesome> whats a nice pdf viewer for kde?
[09:33] <CptnAwesome> preferably something thats light on resources, but still looks sexy?
[09:33] <eps1lon> CptnAwesome: I find the default, Okular, to be very good, but I assume you don't like it since you ask..?
[09:33] <eps1lon> osa: I installed through the hardware drivers screen. I know they work, since the login screen doesn't have a terrible resolution anymore, among other things. : )
[09:34] <CptnAwesome> eps1lon, i installed ubuntu cli + kde 4.2 so i didnt get the extra bells and whistles, just adding thigns as i use them =)
[09:34] <eps1lon> CptnAwesome: In that case I'd recommend Okular : )
[09:35] <osa> epsilon i cant install in hardware drivers screen, nor im trying apt-get install restricted-manager
[09:35] <osa> and ill try again
[09:35] <CptnAwesome> thanks im grabbing it now =)
[09:35] <eps1lon> osa: okay
[09:40] <Mamarok> osa: normally you should have those drivers already running
[09:40] <osa> Mamarok, but i didnt install any drivers and my kubuntu too slow now, in effects
[09:41] <Mamarok> osa: well, how much ram do you have, and what graphic card/ram?
[09:41] <osa> 4gb 1600mhz rams and ati hd4890 graphics
[09:41] <osa> its about drivers i think
[09:41] <Mamarok> osa: and you have the fglrx driver installed?
[09:42] <osa> thats the problem, i cant install fglrx drivers
[09:42] <osa> restricted drivers screen is crashing
[09:43] <Mamarok> osa: oh, then you are hit by the fglrx bug... ATI-AMD removed a lot of cards from the driver support, so you have to fall back on the radeon driver
[09:43] <osa> Mamarok, now i tried to download drivers from EnvyNG and it seems ok, i must restart now
[09:44] <Mamarok> osa: good luck then, I doubt that TBH
[09:44] <osa> sorry for my english :) im restarting now
[09:44] <osa> TBH?
[09:44] <Mamarok> to be honest
[09:44] <osa> ah ok :)
[09:47] <osa> omg driver says: unsupported hardware
[09:47] <osa> my driver is hd4890
[09:48] <osa> my driver* my card is hd4890
[09:49] <Mamarok> osa: that's what I told you earlier...
[09:50] <Mamarok> you need to install the xserver-xorg-video-radeon package and hope it supports *D on your card
[09:50] <osa> Mamarok i didnt remember what you said, now could you say me what i must do :)
[09:50] <osa> how?
[09:50] <Mamarok> well, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon :)
[09:51] <osa> ok, i did, now?
[09:51] <Mamarok> then remove all the fglrx stuff you installed earlier, you need to do that in a shell, not logged in KDE
[09:51] <Mamarok> and once those are removed, you need to type the following:
[09:52] <Mamarok> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:52] <Mamarok> then restart
[09:55] <osa> Mamarok, its faster now i think
[09:55] <osa> how can i be sure its ok or not?
[09:56] <Mamarok> osa: well, disable all the desktop effects you don't want to use, sppeds up a bit
[09:56] <Mamarok> how much ram does your video card have?
[09:57] <osa> 1024mb
[09:57] <Mamarok> oh, then it should be very fast
[09:57] <osa> Mamarok 4890 is one of the fastest card in planet now
[09:57] <Mamarok> especially with 4GB of ram
[09:57] <osa> yea..
[09:57] <osa> its the problem :)
[09:58] <Mamarok> osa: but, if the free radeon driver doesn't support 3D it will be slow, blame ATI-AMD and the ubuntu-core-devs to have switched to Xorg-1.6
[10:05] <osa> how can i install xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:06] <ikonia> osa: up the package manager, find the package and mark it for install
[10:06] <eps1lon> osa: I didn't get to make my panels transparent. Upon applying a new desktop effect the whole thing crashed, and I couldn't start it. I'm downloading a new .iso now, perhaps my last one was faulty.
[10:07] <osa> epsilon, im working on problems like you, i think ill download gnome version
[10:08] <eps1lon> Haha, okay.
[10:08] <eps1lon> KDE sure is stable.
[10:08] <osa> haha yeah :)
[10:08] <beyondcr_> ````a-\
[10:08] <osa> yesterday, i did install debian stable version
[10:08] <beyondcr_> ]\0
[10:09] <beyondcr_> HUM
[10:09] <eps1lon> .._
[10:09] <osa> and my debian cant open, it said "out of range"
[10:09] <eps1lon> ?
[10:09] <eps1lon> osa: that's weird
[10:09] <osa> epsIlon, im unlucky i think, lets try ubuntu gnome version :)
[10:10] <eps1lon> well, i'm not giving up, i'm trying kubuntu again :P
[10:10] <CptnAwesome> does anyone know of a nice plasmoid for wifi strength?
[10:10] <beyondcr_> i just clicked rename on a icon in a desktop wiget folder and clicked copy and the desktop and every thing turned black all i got is this irc up
[10:11] <eps1lon> CptnAwesome: The default wifi plasmoid, placed on a panel, should show wifi strength?
[10:11] <beyondcr_> any know how to fix without a reboot
[10:11] <CptnAwesome> hrmm i dont seem to have a wifi plasmoid.
[10:13] <eps1lon> CptnAwesome: I don't know what it is called when installing it through apt, but ask in freenode.org's #kde, they should be able to help you with that if someone here can't. : )
[10:13] <CptnAwesome> ohhh nice, thanks
[10:19] <beyondcr> wow i just restarted the system and all my webbrowsers are still open whats up qith that
[10:21] <dfaure> beyondcr: that's called session management :-)
[10:23] <beyondcr> sweet
[10:24] <beyondcr> i fall in love with this alittle more each day
[10:36] <dawid> anyone got performance problems with KDE4.2 and Intel video card ?
[10:38] <beyondcr> so if i shut down system things will be the way i left them when reboot yes?
[10:39] <beyondcr> becuses of session man
[10:39] <dfaure> beyondcr: apps get restarted, but of couse not things like unsaved data in a text editor ;)
[10:40] <beyondcr> ty
[10:43] <Mamarok> dfaure: nice to have you here :)
[10:43] <dfaure> Mamarok: yeah especially now that I stopped ranting about jaunty ;)
[10:57] <eps1lon> Is there any way to back up my whole kubuntu installation, so I can restore it if I screw something up?
[10:58] <eps1lon> Preferbly even if it gets totally effed up and I can't even boot. (which happened an hour ago. I just reinstalled kubuntu.)
[10:59] <Mamarok> eps1lon: do you have your /home on a separate partition?
[10:59] <eps1lon> Mamarok: Yes
[10:59] <Mamarok> eps1lon: well, you can make a copy of your hard disk with dd, but a reinstall is always faster than restoring a backup
[10:59] <eps1lon> Hm, okay. I thought it might be faster.
[11:00] <Mamarok> you should backup your /home folder, though, as well as the /etc folder
[11:00] <Mamarok> why weren't you able to reboot in the first place? If you have a hardware problem, then it will not get solved with a backup
[11:00] <eps1lon> Well, thing is
[11:01] <eps1lon> Ugh, this is a terribly long story
[11:01] <Mamarok> eps1lon: abstract?
[11:02] <eps1lon> Mamarok: Sorry, got disconnected
[11:02] <eps1lon> Mamarok: Abstract? What..?
[11:02] <Mamarok> eps1lon: an abstract is a short summary of a long article :)
[11:03] <eps1lon> Mamarok: Oh.
[11:03] <eps1lon> Mamarok: Basically, I downloaded kubuntu a few days ago, installed it yesterday.
[11:04] <eps1lon> And everything went well, installed and configured it.
[11:04] <eps1lon> When I got everything as I wanted it, I wanted my panels to be transparent.
[11:04] <Mamarok> eps1lon: so you are running KDE 4.2.2?
[11:04] <eps1lon> Oh, yes, sorry.
[11:05] <Mamarok> eps1lon: you can't modify just the panels, it's a theme, so you need to use another theme
[11:05] <eps1lon> And, well, upon applying a desktop effect, to see if it sort of would refresh everything and transparency would be there.
[11:05] <eps1lon> No no, both, wassit called
[11:05] <eps1lon> Both oxygen and air can be transparent
[11:05] <eps1lon> And currently I use air. (It works on 4.2 too.)
[11:05] <Mamarok> eps1lon: well, desktop effects do not make a panel transparent if it's not ment to in the theme
[11:05] <eps1lon> It is meant to be transparent.
[11:06] <Mamarok> ok
[11:06] <Mamarok> so what went wrong?
[11:06] <eps1lon> Every time I've used kubuntu before today they have been, after installing restricted drivers.
[11:06] <eps1lon> Yeah so
[11:06] <Mamarok> eps1lon: moment, what graphic card do you have?
[11:06] <eps1lon> Ati (hd4850)
[11:07] <Mamarok> eps1lon: well, this is a rather old card, I doubt the restricted driver still supports it
[11:07] <eps1lon> Old card?
[11:07] <eps1lon> You kidding?
[11:07] <Mamarok> and this still doesn't explain why you couldn't boot your PC
[11:07] <eps1lon> It's far from old man, came last year if my memory serves me right.
[11:07] <Mamarok> eps1lon: well, when did it come out?
[11:08] <eps1lon> Already told you ; )
[11:08] <Mamarok> that's the problem, the latest fglrx for xorg-1.6 removed almost all cards older than 6 months
[11:08] <eps1lon> Ohh, seriously?
[11:08] <Mamarok> blame ATI-MD
[11:08] <Mamarok> AMD*
[11:08] <osa> eps1lon: im at fedora now and its working great at my graphic driver :)
[11:08] <Mamarok> so if you can't run correctly with the fglrx driver, you should use the free radeon instead
[11:09] <eps1lon> Eugh, the free driver is terribad, in my opinion.
[11:09] <Mamarok> transparency works well with it, maybe 3D might be a problem, you will have to test that
[11:09] <Mamarok> but still, not a reason not to be able to boot a PC :)
[11:09] <Mamarok> eps1lon: the free driver at least supports your card, fglrx likely doesn't
[11:09] <eps1lon> Well, yes. Kind of weird that everything else works though, isn't it..?
[11:10] <eps1lon> Except transparency, that is.
[11:10] <Mamarok> eps1lon: transparency works for me with the radeon driver, and my card is even older than yours
[11:11] <eps1lon> Hm. This conversation is weird, I've never called a barely one-year-old card 'old'. : (
[11:11] <Mamarok> eps1lon: also, transparency is the easiest of all desktop effects, almost always works, even with XRender instead of OpenGL
[11:12] <eps1lon> Yeah, I suppose you're right
[11:12] <Mamarok> eps1lon: from the manufacturers POV it is
[11:12] <eps1lon> Hang on
[11:12] <eps1lon> It works in ubuntu though?
[11:12] <eps1lon> Just not in kubuntu
[11:12] <Mamarok> eps1lon: wrong, it either works in both or in none, xorg is independend of the desktop
[11:13] <eps1lon> Well, it worked 2 days ago, ubuntu jaunty
[11:13] <Mamarok> eps1lon: on another hand, you shoudl upgrade your KDE, there is 4.2.4 which is a bugfix, see the topic of the channel
[11:13] <eps1lon> Eh, it might be 4.2.4, it's a default jaunty installation and fully updated.
[11:13] <eps1lon> How do I check that?
[11:14] <Mamarok> well, then you are doing something wrong in the settings, don't modify theme settings, it works well here with all themes that support transparency
[11:14] <eps1lon> I haven't modified anything.
[11:14] <Mamarok> eps1lon: no, default is KDE 4.2.2, that's what was delivered in APril
[11:14] <eps1lon> Ah, then that it is.
[11:15] <eps1lon> Please
[11:15] <eps1lon> Correct me if I'm wrong
[11:15] <eps1lon> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.36&lang=English
[11:15] <Mamarok> eps1lon: see the topic for 4.2.4, if you are comfortable with a RC, you should consider KDE 4.3 RC2
[11:15] <eps1lon> But my card seems to be supported?
[11:15] <Mamarok> epsiwell, thes say the same for mine, and it doesn't work
[11:15] <Mamarok> sry, eps1lon
[11:16] <eps1lon> So the reason it doesn't work is not intended?
[11:16] <eps1lon> They just didn't stop supporting it?
[11:16] <eps1lon> They didn't just*
[11:16] <Mamarok> eps1lon: the reason is that the fglrx driver is broken
[11:16] <eps1lon> ..always worked fine for me.
[11:17] <Mamarok> and they laid off half of the driver devs about a year ago and haven't hired new ones, so their support for fglrx is extremly bad
[11:17] <Mamarok> eps1lon: my card works extremly well with the windows drivers, just not with their fglrx
[11:18] <eps1lon> Hm, okay. But I have used fglrx with this exact pc, in jaunty, so this must have happened very recently. Like last month recently.
[11:18] <Mamarok> so much for a company pretending to support Linux
[11:18] <Mamarok> eps1lon: no, it started with xorg -1.6
[11:18] <eps1lon> I'm new. When did that happen, then?
[11:19] <eps1lon> A newbie, rather.
[11:20] <Mamarok> eps1lon: I use the radeon driver since April, so I can't tell
[11:20] <eps1lon> hm
[11:20] <eps1lon> Well, I dunno about this, I used the fglrx driver in June..
[11:21] <eps1lon> I'm not saying you're wrong, it might work horribly, but at least I know it did _work_ then.
[11:23] <Mamarok> eps1lon: which theme is a problem, Air?
[11:23] <eps1lon> Air, Oxygen.
[11:23] <Mamarok> it's not ment to  be used in 4.2.x btw
[11:23] <eps1lon> I know.
[11:23] <Mamarok> oxygen should work
[11:23] <eps1lon> Yes, it should.
[11:23] <eps1lon> Actually
[11:24] <Mamarok> eps1lon: could well be a verison problem then, give 4.3 RC2 a try, it's very stable
[11:24] <eps1lon> I had transparency a few days ago, but then I installed ubuntu because I wanted to try Gnome, but now that I've switched again I can't get it to work.
[11:24] <eps1lon> Oh, god no, updating to 4.3 RC2 broke everything. After tons of help and trying to get it to work it was still horribly broken.
[11:25] <Mamarok> eps1lon: well, then something went wrong with your installation
[11:25] <eps1lon> 3 times?
[11:25] <Mamarok> eps1lon: I installed Gnome the other day to try stuff, and everything works fine in Kubuntu, and so does KDE 4.3 RC2
[11:26] <eps1lon> Okay. Well, I dunno, I just know it worked then.
[11:26] <Mamarok> if you don't modify basic settings in your KDE, there is no reason it wouldn't work, just make sure you install *everything*
[11:27] <Mamarok> as there has been some renaming of packages, make sure you really have everything, like kdebase, oxygen and such, check with the package manager
[11:27] <eps1lon> Yeah, I did everything that was on kubuntu.org (they have a little guide on upgrading to 4.3 in jaunty.)
[11:28] <Mamarok> eps1lon: still, check the package manager, I had to isntall stuff manually
[11:29] <eps1lon> Yeah, so did I afterwards, people were helping me. Still, RC is the keyword(s). 4.2 should work better.
[11:29] <eps1lon> And this _should_ work.
[11:30] <Mamarok> eps1lon: indeed, if it worked before, but with all the changings you did, difficult to say what is broken
[11:30] <Mamarok> "never change a running system"
[11:30] <Ced___> Hey, got a little question: i'm trying to play a dvd, but kaffeine doesn't play it, and mplayer gets stuck, any ideas?
[11:30] <eps1lon> Yeah, well, I wanted to run Ubuntu for a while. I've never had any trouble with k/ubuntu. And now it's all very troublesome.
[11:33] <Mamarok> eps1lon: did you remove the user settings in ~/.kde/? log out of KDE, move that folder to ~/.kde_old/ and try again
[11:33] <Mamarok> Ced___: do you have all the codecs installed?
[11:33] <Mamarok> !codec
[11:33] <eps1lon> Mamarok: You mean when upgrading to RC2?
[11:33] <eps1lon> Mamarok: Or just now?
[11:33] <Ced___> Thanks, i'll try again
[11:35] <Mamarok> eps1lon: right now
[11:35] <eps1lon> Mamarok: I haven't. I suppose that is worth a try.
[11:35] <eps1lon> By 'try again' I suppose you mean, what, reboot?
[11:37] <eps1lon> Pardon my silly questions.
[11:37] <Mamarok> eps1lon: no, just log in  into KDE again after it, remove that folder from a shell with the following command:
[11:37] <eps1lon> Yeah, I know.
[11:37] <Mamarok> mv ~/.kde/ ~/.kde_old/
[11:37] <eps1lon> Thanks though. : )
[11:37] <eps1lon> Brb.
[11:37] <Ced___> are there any codec packs with restricted codecs i can install using adept?
[11:38] <Mamarok> Ced___: try the medibuntu packages:
[11:38] <Mamarok> !medibuntu
[11:38] <Ced___> thanks again
[11:43] <eps1lon> okay, back
[11:43] <eps1lon> I'm creating the panels and everything
[11:43] <eps1lon> Still no transparency, though
[11:48] <Ced___> I have a Data DVD with JPEGs, but it won't open, it doesn't display, it doesn't mount, nothing. It DOES work on another computer though (windows), also the dvd video player works now.
[11:49] <Ced___> Any ideas?...
[11:50] <Mamarok> Ced___: if it has DRM, you can't use it on Linux
[11:50] <eps1lon_> Mamarok: I tried enabling a desktop effect; it got effed up again.
[11:50] <Mamarok> effed up?
[11:50] <eps1lon_> Mamarok: I don't know how to explain it.
[11:51] <Ced___> It's burned by some private company, so should not contain any DRM stuff
[11:51] <eps1lon_> No panels, everything is grey..
[11:51] <eps1lon_> Can't interact with anything
[11:51] <eps1lon_> Anyway
[11:51] <eps1lon_> I removed fglrx
[11:51] <Mamarok> eps1lon_: that is a plasma crash I think
[11:51] <eps1lon_> And now transparency works
[11:51] <eps1lon_> so much for proprietary drivers
[11:52] <Mamarok> eps1lon_: make sure you have *all* kde packages
[11:52] <eps1lon_> I don't care anymore. As you said, don't fix what isn't broken.
[11:52] <eps1lon_> And now I got what I wanted.
[11:52] <Mamarok> Ced___: then I don't know, the devices manager doesn't see it at all? Does the drive actually run?
[11:52] <Mamarok> eps1lon_: good
[11:53] <Ced___> The drive runs, and works with other DVDs (such as that movie i asked about a few minutes ago), but this DVD won't o anything
[11:56] <Ced___> Anything i should try?
[12:01] <Ced___> Mamarok: Maybe some lspci command where you can see from 'OH that's your problem' or something
[12:04] <Ced___> well, i gotta go unfortunally, so, thanks for that help, and cya some other time maybe!
[12:13] <BCMM> what version of KDE is on the Live CDs?
[12:17] <cRiMi> list
[12:24] <ondrey> тест
[12:25] <bazhang> ondrey, #ubuntu-ru for Russian
[12:27] <bazhang> ondrey, /join #ubuntu-ru
[12:55] <alutza> hey, anyone here?
[12:55] <alutza> need help with the infamous sound issue with flash
[12:55] <alutza> upgraded to 9.04 and at first flash worked like a charm but no theres no sound anymore
[12:56] <ghostcube> is thios flash plugin nonfree ?
[12:57] <alutza> its the Adobe Flash player in add/remove
[12:57] <alutza> probably yes
[12:57] <ghostcube> hmmm
[12:59] <alutza> so?
[12:59] <gunsOfBrixton> hi, kinda dumb question, is there a point in checking disks at boot if I'm running kubuntu in a vm?
[13:00] <ghostcube> alutza: 64 bit ?
[13:00] <alutza> so anything about the flash sound in kubuntu?
[13:00] <alutza> 32
[13:00] <alutza> it worked yesterday
[13:01] <ghostcube> after the upgrade ?
[13:01] <alutza> yep
[13:02] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get install w32codecs flash-plugin-nonfree
[13:02] <ghostcube> pls check this
[13:02] <alutza> sudo apt-get install w32codecs flash-plugin-nonfree
[13:02] <alutza> wait
[13:03] <alutza> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[13:03] <alutza> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[13:03] <alutza> is only available from another source
[13:03] <ghostcube> ok you need to reopen the medibuntu repositories
[13:03] <alutza> just a sec
[13:04] <alutza> i cant find them
[13:13] <casper_> I'm trying to setup an forum and need to know if it works. please go to fpv.no and click the only link on the page and tell me if you get an error.
[13:19] <rmrfslash> Is anyone else here using Kppp? Is there a better alternative for broadband connections?
[13:20] <rmrfslash> Basically, I've been having a Plasma "Failed to run Kppp.desktop. Either Krunner is not responding or not running" error everytime I launch it. I have to wait for the error to come up which takes 10-15 seconds meanwhile the entire system is unresponsive.
[13:20] <ghostcube> alutza: medibuntu.org
[13:20] <ghostcube> there is all described
[13:21] <ghostcube> install kubuntu-restricted-extras and w32codecs if this wont be installed
[13:21] <alutza> but if it did work till today
[13:21] <rmrfslash> Good thing is, I can just close the error dialog and the machine returns.
[13:21] <alutza> why doesnt it work now
[13:24] <alutza> anyway ... installed it
[13:24] <alutza> nope not working
[13:37] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:40] <Captain_Haddock> hullo
[13:41] <bazhang> hi
[14:00] <alutza> please tell me someone is here.. simple question, but i hope a pro can answer
[14:00] <alutza> is there any use to pulseaudio
[14:01] <alutza> i purged it so my sound in flash would work again... and i dont know if it has any use except for making things not work
[14:01] <phh> alutza: on a good distribution it is really helpful
[14:01] <phh> but yes, ubuntu hasn't ever been able to get it working ..
[14:01] <alutza> oh
[14:01] <alutza> lol
[14:02] <phh> you can use some nice things with it, like mixing sound by application, or switch an application from an audio output to an other
[14:02] <phh> audio output can be almost anything: rtp streams, bluetooth headset, alsa output
[14:02] <phh> (but i haven't found any icecast output yet.)
[14:03] <alutza> but on another good distribution its purpose is to?
[14:03] <alutza> work as a "driver" for sound cards
[14:03] <alutza> or?
[14:03] <phh> it's a middleware between soundcards and applications
[14:03] <phh> it dispatches (and mixes), application's sound to drivers
[14:03] <BluesKaj> my undestanding is that alsa works as the driver for pulse audio
[14:03] <alutza> mhm
[14:04] <BluesKaj> it's a fuzzy area ..heard all kinds of arguments about roles played by alsa and pulse
[14:05] <phh> but yes, alsa and pulseaudio features overlapses a lot
[14:05] <phh> many features in alsa are in pulseaudio, and the other side too.
[14:06] <phh> but some features in pulseaudio are really great (as i said, you can set the volume output, on a per application basis)
[14:09] <BluesKaj> I wonder when they will dev an audiolayer which integrates the roles of both ...it's quite confusing and even the ubuntu sites don't explain things very well
[14:09] <phh> BluesKaj: i hope they will never !
[14:10] <phh> alsa is mainly for kernel side, pulseaudio for software side
[14:10] <phh> the thing is alsa goes to far in some features
[14:10] <BluesKaj> phh, so alsa is a kernerl module
[14:11] <phh> mainly, but not only
[14:11] <phh> (and imho, it should be only a kernel module)
[14:12] <BluesKaj> I'm not complaining about the alsa and pulseaudio functions ...they seem to work well together , at least on my setup
[14:14] <BluesKaj> looks like the devs are perfecting kernel modules for intel , ati and nvidia graphics too
[14:15] <BluesKaj> Xserver-xorg is no longer editable ..basically
[14:22] <benny_> does anyone know how to install webcam on ubuntu pls
[14:23] <benny_> pls help me
[14:23] <phh> just plug it.
[14:23] <benny_> its already plug
[14:23] <phh> then just use it.
[14:23] <benny_> i need the procedure
[14:24] <phh> to do what.. ?
[14:24] <benny_> its not functioning
[14:24] <phh> how do you try ?
[14:24] <phh> with which application ?
[14:25] <benny_> i cannot find my webcam if its ready to use or not becoz nothing happen when plug it
[14:25] <benny_> i dont know how to try
[14:25] <phh> just launch any application which uses it
[14:27] <msm> hi
[14:36] <zuz> hello
[14:37] <zuz> anyone have an idea on how to update my dell inspiron bios in kubuntu?  dell only offer a .exe version and wine doesnt do anything with it
[14:38] <darthanubis> zuz: lol, then you can update your bios from linux
[14:39] <darthanubis> zuz: you have to work that out with Dell
[14:39] <zuz> it says windows/dos only
[14:39] <darthanubis> or get a real computer
[14:39] <phh> zuz: use a freedos CD/floppy/whatever
[14:40] <zuz> phh  do you know a good place to get one for a SD card?
[14:40] <zuz> i dont know how to put an iso in it
[14:40] <darthanubis> he is NOT going to be able to accomplish that feat if he is a user level that tries to upgrade his BIOS from WINE
[14:40] <darthanubis> you see?
[14:40] <phh> darthanubis: it might works ...
[14:41] <darthanubis> phh: this user is not at that level obviously
[14:41] <phh> I successfully upgrated the firmware of my optic player with it.
[14:41] <zuz> wont work from wine but might from dos
[14:41] <zuz> from wine????
[14:41] <darthanubis> zuz: boot with a win98 floppy disk if you can
[14:41] <zuz> cant
[14:41] <zuz> its a laptop
[14:41] <phh> zuz: look at dell's documentation
[14:41] <zuz> no floppy
[14:41] <phh> iirc they give some ways
[14:41] <zuz> i did
[14:41] <darthanubis> boot from a dos/freedos cd like phh told you
[14:42] <zuz> thats the idea im working with at the moment
[14:42] <fixit> Hello all, i would appreciate if anyone can help me with a weird upgrade problem.
[14:42] <phh> zuz: you didn't searched well i guess, google with dell linux bios update gives me: http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Oss/Firmware_Tools
[14:43] <psteyn> do I just need to install kdepim for calendar?
[14:43] <darthanubis> !ask|fixit
[14:43] <zuz> yeah and that repository dont have the driver for my bios
[14:43] <zuz> they dont have it for dell
[14:43] <zuz> for linux i mean
[14:43] <fixit> thanks
[14:44] <phh> psteyn: you can install it alone, but you'd better install the whole kdepim package
[14:45] <fixit> Well basically my plasma desktop disappeared after upgrading to kde 4.3 RC2. When i try to see the desktop it is a black window with no icons
[14:45] <zuz> phh, i did all what its needed for that, the problem is that after i get the repository and the files and do the update_firmware command, it doesnt find
[14:45] <psteyn> ty
[14:45] <fixit> i did a dist-upgrade with the ppa repository
[14:45] <zuz> because my system id isnt on that place
[14:47] <fixit> i can see like 1/8 of the desktop
[14:47] <fixit> i can see a very small section of my old wallpaper at the top
[14:48] <fixit> and a big black window of 7/8 screen height under
[14:56] <jb__> hello, just one question is there any way to get kubuntu 9.04 to work whit ati xpress 200m and svideo ? My 3D support works but dont really care about it just want s-video to work.
[15:00] <jb__> any one ?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> jb__, svideo , what are you trying to do ?
[15:13] <jb__> hello, just one question is there any way to get kubuntu 9.04 to work whit ati xpress 200m and svideo ? My 3D support works but dont really care about it just want s-video to work.
[15:21] <Mamarok> jb__: please answer the question you were asked earlier
[15:21] <Rythan> Does anyone know if they got the Network Manager Plasmoid to work yet?
[15:21] <Mamarok> Rythan: works fine here, using KDE 4.2.96 aka RC2
[15:21] <Rythan> Still nm-applet
[15:21] <jb__> BlueEagle:
[15:21] <Mamarok> Rythan: it is called widget since KDE 4.2.x
[15:21] <jb__> sorry dident see that iam trying to get my tvout to work
[15:22] <Rythan> Mamarok: Oh ok and not working here for some reason ... will not connect to a secure network
[15:22] <Mamarok> Rythan: secure = wep? wpa?
[15:22] <Rythan> Mamarok: WPA
[15:23] <Mamarok> Rythan: and you did set your password (and permissions for WPA2) right?
[15:23] <Rythan> Mamarok: Yet nm-applet has no problem -- it even recognises and connects my mobile USB broadband
[15:24] <Rythan> Mamarok: Which The Widget does not
[15:24] <Mamarok> Rythan: well, then use the nm-applet
[15:24] <Rythan> Mamarok: Well it sees it, but does not connect
[15:24] <Rythan> Mamarok: Have been ... just would like to use the widget instead lol
[15:24] <Mamarok> Rythan: it works for me, as I said, using WPA private
[15:25] <Mamarok> Rythan: which KDE version do you use?
[15:25] <Rythan> 4.2.96
[15:26] <Captain_Haddock> Rythan: wicd is (IMO) a better alternative anyway - you might want to check it out.
[15:26] <Captain_Haddock> !info wicd
[15:33] <bobbob1016> How do I use the built-in KDE indexer?  I enabled the service in the Advanced Settings, but I can't find a front-end, any ideas?
[15:35] <Mamarok> bobbob1016: you mean Strigi?
[15:35] <Rythan> Captain_Haddock: IYO, what makes it better?
[15:35] <Mamarok> Rythan: it works :)
[15:36] <Rythan> Mamarok: Heh ... that is a point lol
[15:37] <Mamarok> bobbob1016: you need to install all nepomuk and all strigi packages, and the sporano backend
[15:37] <Mamarok> then on restarting KDE it should work, else enable Strigi again in the systemsettings
[15:40] <bobbob1016> Mamarok: And what is the front-end for Strigi?
[15:41] <Mamarok> bobbob1016: well, Strigi :)
[15:42] <Mamarok> bobbob1016: once it starts it will sit in the system tray, you can right click on it to change the settings
[15:43] <bobbob1016> Mamarok: Oh, ok.  I guess it hasn't started ever then, not sure why though.
[15:45] <bobbob1016> I enabled it a while ago, and have restarted since, but it doesn't start.  Could it be that google desktop is running too?
[15:46] <Mamarok> bobbob1016: well, did you install that? Didn't know there was a Google Desktop for KDE4
[15:47] <bobbob1016> It isn't "for kde", it's "for linux" but yeah, there is one.
[15:48] <bobbob1016> I installed the other things, but it doesn't have sporano
[15:48] <Mamarok> bobbob1016: wiat, it's a library
[15:49] <Mamarok> bobbob1016: install soprano-deamon, it should dragg also libsoprano4
[15:50] <bobbob1016> Mamarok: Already installed
[15:53] <Mamarok> bobbob1016: there was a java-related error at some point, let me see
[15:55] <Mamarok> bobbob1016: check this: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/strigi/+bug/309626/comments/19
[15:57] <bobbob1016> Mamarok: I'm running 64bit, that command says to add i386 something or other, should I still do that?
[16:01] <Mamarok> bobbob1016: well, just modify that part to your java version, worked for me
[16:02] <Mamarok> bobbob1016: it's just a symlink to add
[16:03] <bobbob1016> Which java gave me "/usr/bin/java" so I can use that I guess?
[16:03] <Mamarok> I don't remember exactly, but it should be in there somewhere
[16:05] <ubuser> I tried kde 4.3 via back ports. I ended up with a checkerboard pattern for the desktop background. And none of the menus or mouse clicks worked. Any ideas?
[16:07] <Maximo> hi all...need help with this question in the pastebin: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/224393/
[16:07] <Maximo> thanks
[16:09] <Mamarok> Maximo: sorry, I can't help you, I doubt there is a plugin, you might have a look at the plugin repo for mozilla at mozilla.org
[16:09] <bobbob1016> Mamarok: I'll brb going to logout and back in and see if it starts
[16:09] <Mamarok> ubuser: you don't have all packages installed, make sure you have all kdebase-* packages and all oxygen and plasma packages
[16:10] <Mamarok> Maximo: be aware that this website uses proprietary software that doesn't allow Free Software to view it
[16:11] <Maximo> ok
[16:11] <Maximo> Mamorok: let me try the mozilla.org
[16:18] <bobbob1016> Mamarok: Didn't start up.
[16:22] <van> Hi
[16:42] <Mamarok> bobbob1016: do you see an error emssage in the system settings?
[16:45] <eMyller> hey guys
[16:46] <eMyller> how can i share internet by a crossover cable with another pc?
[16:52] <vbgunz> anyone know how to successfully get rid of the kopete message of "you cannot add yourself..."?
[16:56] <eMyller|busy> anyone alive?
[17:04] <petsounds> hello, after i upgraded firefox with tips from http://gaarai.com/2009/07/01/upgrade-to-firefox-3-5-on-ubuntu-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/, i'm no longer get any update. did i miss sth? thank you.
[17:07] <Captain_Haddock> eMyller: Many moons ago, I did it using Firestarter.. or you can do it yourself via iptables
[17:08] <Captain_Haddock> Firestarter was, IIRC, easy to set up. You might also want to check the network manager widget for any advanced options.
[17:08] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: thanks, i'll give it a try :)
[17:09] <bobbob1016> Mamarok: It just says "Service not running, settings will be used next time it is"
[17:10] <uzman> hi
[17:10] <uzman> ı have a promlem
[17:13] <brandon_> hardware drivers will not open and need to install wireles drivers any suggestions?
[17:13] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: did it require any change to /etc/network/interfaces?
[17:18] <Captain_Haddock> eMyller|busy: if the machines can already ping each other, then no...
[17:24] <eMyller> i need to connect to a pc via crossover. how can i do it? :|
[17:37] <Kutche> hallo
[17:38] <Kutche> ...
[17:38] <Kutche> hello can someone help
[17:38] <Kutche> ???????????????????????????????
[17:39] <Kutche> hi
[17:40] <Kutche> hello
[17:42] <Dragnslcr> !ask | Kutche
[17:43] <Kutche> Im going to install Kubuntu Later today and i dont know how i would install my wireless -g pci adapter on there since it cant use .exe files
[17:45] <Dragnslcr> !wireless
[17:51] <Kutche> how do i get NDISwrapper on kubuntu if i have no interntet conection on it
[17:52] <Dragnslcr> Could download the packages with another computer and use a CD or USB drive
[17:53] <Kutche> is there certain cmds i need to install it off the usb/cd
[17:54] <Dragnslcr> You should be able to install the .deb packages normally with KPackageKit, GDebi, or dpkg
[17:55] <Kutche> im extremely new to linux i just herd about it 2 days ago so i have no idead what u said
[17:55] <Kutche> sorry
[17:56] <uzman> hi
[17:57] <uzman> i downloaded opensuse 11 dvd iso. but couldnt write a free dvd
[17:57] <uzman> ı want to install a usb flash disk
[17:57] <uzman> please help me
[17:58] <uzman> i want to instaşll from a usb flash disk
[17:59] <uzman> World!
[17:59] <uzman> kimse yokmu
[17:59] <Captain_Haddock> Kutche: copy the package to your PC and right click on it.. there should be install options available.
[18:00] <Captain_Haddock> !tr | uzman
[18:05] <Kutche> i cant get my wifi card working on ubuntu
[18:05] <Kutche> Kubuntu
[18:05] <Kutche> sorry
[18:05] <ubuntu> hello
[18:05] <Kutche> hi
[18:06] <Kutche> i cant install my linksys pci adapter on kubuntu
[18:10] <uzman> linksys? its no easy
[18:11] <Kutche> yep linksys is my pci
[18:11] <Kutche> adapter
[18:11] <Kutche> is it difficult to install on Kubuntu
[18:12] <uzman> yes
[18:12] <Cliff> it is fuckin difficult
[18:12] <Kutche> ah jesus
[18:12] <Kutche> do u know how to do it
[18:13] <Cliff> bash
[18:13] <Kutche> bash?
[18:13] <Cliff> yeah
[18:13] <uzman> not bash son of the fuc.k.you.
[18:14] <uzman> cliff your mother is beaituful*
[18:14] <Cliff> all are mine soft i installed in bash
[18:14] <uzman> lan orospu cocugu
[18:14] <Kutche> is there a distro tht supports linksys
[18:14] <uzman> ne uyduruyorsun
[18:14] <uzman> sikmisim ananizi gavur dolleri
[18:15] <Kutche> o.o
[18:15] <uzman> sizin gotunuzu varya ne sikerim
[18:15] <uzman> biliyormusunuz?
[18:15] <Cliff> STFU
[18:15] <tsimpson> uzman: stop it
[18:15] <uzman> ok
[18:16] <uzman> ı stop
[18:16] <tsimpson> Cliff: watch your language please
[18:16] <uzman> i
[18:16] <Cliff> какого хера?
[18:16] <Kutche> so how the hell do i get my linksys to work on Kubuntu
[18:18] <Kutche> GRRRRR
[18:18] <Cliff> i dont know. visit forums and ask there for the concrete prog
[18:18] <Kutche> ive tried tht no one answeres
[18:20] <Cliff> i dont know WTF is it. ive installed kubuntu at my first time yesterday
[18:20] <Kutche> now i have to go buy a new network card
[18:21] <Kutche> ...jesus
[18:21] <Cliff> why?
[18:21] <phh> Kutche: what chipset have your card ?
[18:21] <sfears> does anyone know how to figure out what /dev/*** to mount off of the info provided with lsusb??
[18:58] <BorisK> join
[18:59] <BorisK> what up?
[18:59] <BorisK> join<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:00] <BorisK><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:01] <Pici> BorisK: What are you trying to do?
[19:03] <compilerwriter> Im keenly interested as well BorisK Just what are you trying to do
[19:08] <ubsafder> hello
[19:10] <ubsafder> my kubuntu does not connect to my wireless network  when i use kde while i use gnome it connect automatically .
[19:10] <Mamarok> ubsafder: which KDE do you use?
[19:10] <Mamarok> ubsafder: if you already have gnome installed, use the network-manager then
[19:12] <ubsafder> i have kde 4.2.96 on gnome i think it is network manager that gets me connected . strange it doesnot autoconnect when i am in kde
[19:13] <zuz> amazing how dell has linux support for alot of their systems, and mine is one of the few not included
[19:13] <ubsafder> i would like to have wireless connection from kde . if possible
[19:17] <Mamarok> ubsafder: you do not have KDE on Gnome, that is not possible :)
[19:17] <ubsafder> no i have both
[19:17] <Mamarok> ubsafder: use network-manager on KDE, works too :)
[19:17] <Mamarok> ubsafder: well, yes, but tose a separate things, you mean you have installed both Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[19:17] <Mamarok> those*
[19:18] <ubsafder> but when i log with a  kde session  it is not working  when i use gnome network-manager does the job
[19:18] <Mamarok> ubsafder: read what I said...
[19:19] <Mamarok> just use network-manager-gnome instead of network-manager-kde
[19:19] <Mamarok> as easy as that
[19:20] <ubsafder> how do i set kde to use network-manager-gnome  instead of network-manager-kde
[19:20] <Mamarok> ubsafder: start network-manager-gnome from a konsole
[19:21] <ubsafder> ok i will go to try
[19:23] <Zorael> Is /var/log/dmesg written to at each dmesg entry or in batches?
[19:23] <Zorael> ergo, could I use tail -f /var/log/dmesg to monitor it?
[19:25] <Zorael> in batches, apparently.
[19:25] <senorpedro> hi folks
[19:25] <senorpedro> which linux distro is good for old hardware?
[19:28] <compilerwriter> dsl is supposed to be good for old hardware senorpedro
[19:28] <Mamarok> senorpedro: all distros ship more or less the same nowadys, try Xfce
[19:28] <Mamarok> !xfce | senorpedro
[19:32] <compilerwriter> does wubi work with 64 bit processors?
[19:33] <compilerwriter> !wubi | compilerwriter
[19:46] <Mannequin1> hi. I'm having a really hard time with my laptop touchpad and keyboard :(
[19:46] <Mannequin1> from time to time, the launchpad "gets crazy"
[19:47] <Mannequin1> and begins to move alone, and trigger clicks
[19:47] <Mannequin1> (no, it's not a hacker)
[19:47] <Mannequin1> and the keyboard, from time to time, stops responding
[19:48] <Mannequin1> ok, a google search shows me that I'm not alone
[19:50] <bob___> bonjour
[19:50] <bob___> pouvez vous m'aider ?
[19:50] <bob___> pouvez vous m'aider ?
[19:51] <linux> hi
[19:51] <linux> is anybody here
[19:51] <bob___> is any channel in frensh ?
[19:51] <linux> or in german ?
[19:51] <linux> :)
[19:51] <phh> !fr
[19:52] <phh> !de
[19:52] <PKS2155-304> there is french here :)
[19:52] <linux> any ganja here to find ?
[19:52] <linux> :D
[19:54] <linux> !tr
[20:00] <elitrou> hi guys - i have a major crash with kwin
[20:02] <elitrou> started with having the desktop crashings to the pre-login black screen, now not only tty login is avialable
[20:08] <Mamarok> elitrou: a bit more information about your KDE version and graphic card and such would be helpful
[20:09] <elitrou> first problems appeared with 4.2, total crash after installing 4.3-rc2
[20:10] <Mamarok> elitrou: are you sure everything is installed, all kdebase-*, oxygen and plasma packages?
[20:10] <elitrou> using Nvidia 180.44 driver
[20:10] <Mamarok> elitrou: that might be the problem, AFAIK the latest stable driver is 185
[20:11] <elitrou> it's still not in the repositories, as much as i know
[20:11] <elitrou> as about the packages - i've tried to use apt-get upgrade -f - nothing shows up
[20:12] <elitrou> so hopefully everything is installed
[20:12] <elitrou> i've tried to run kwin --replace
[20:15] <elitrou> get the following error: /usr/lib/libkdecorations.so.4: file too short
[20:16] <Quintasan> elitrou: sudo aptitude reinstall kde-window-manager
[20:16] <Quintasan> elitrou: might help
[20:17] <elitrou> quintasan: i'll try it in
[20:17] <Quintasan> elitrou: oops
[20:17] <Quintasan> elitrou: libkdecorations4 instead of kde-window-manager
[20:21] <uzman> how solve the intel-hda ich9 sound card problem?
[20:21] <elitrou> Quinasan: It helped, partially - got a problem with a different file
[20:22] <uzman> world here i am
[20:22] <uzman> please help me
[20:23] <elitrou> Quintasan: now it reports a problem with /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5
[20:23] <Quintasan> elitrou: I can provide you files manually but I think you will be intrested in apt-file
[20:24] <uzman> kimse yokmu
[20:24] <Quintasan> elitrou: sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update && apt-file search <file name> (libkdeui.so.5 in this case)
[20:25] <uzman> turkish ubuntu channel
[20:25] <uzman> türkçe
[20:25] <uzman> olmuyor
[20:27] <uzman> now, i installed kubuntu 9.04, and it didnt know my sound card
[20:27] <uzman> my sound card is intel hda ich9 idt
[20:28] <b14ck> hi guys--quick question. im planning on installing kbuntu later today. i have a nice 64 bit machine here (amd6000), was wondering whether or not i should use the 64-bit version of kubuntu, or if it breaks a lot of software? im just using it as a standard desktop
[20:28] <b14ck> movies, music, web browsing, coding, etc
[20:28] <b14ck> also--running virtualbox, but thats about it
[20:29] <elitrou> b14ck: how big is your memory? if it's less than 3Gb - there is now actual need for 64bit
[20:29] <b14ck> i've got 4GB of mem
[20:30] <elitrou> it's the limit of 32bit systems
[20:30] <b14ck> i know that it will only address3.5 GB, but im not really too concerned about that
[20:30] <b14ck> well i'll just run 32 for now then
[20:30] <elitrou> i use 64 myself, it still happens to have some pre-mature problems with flash, java etc...
[20:31] <b14ck> gotcha
[20:31] <b14ck> thats all i needed to know ^^
[20:31] <uzman> yardım
[20:33] <uzman> i will remove ubuntu from my pc, because ubuntu is silly
[20:37] <uzman> sound card problem
[20:44] <elitrou> Quintasan: well, another step forward
[20:45] <elitrou> Quintasan: the login window is shown, but i can't log in, it just get's back to the login window
[20:45] <Quintasan> elitrou: try sudo aptitude reinstall kdm
[20:46] <Quintasan> elitrou: and then sudo aptitude reinstall kde-window-manager, I had similar problem
[20:46] <Quintasan> elitrou: also check /var/log/kdm
[20:46] <castellers2_> hola
[20:46] <castellers2_> hoal
[20:46] <castellers2_> helloew
[20:49] <The-Jesus> hola
[20:50] <senorpedro> i just accidentily mini-fied all windows and put them all on the desktop, like that macosx thing
[20:50] <senorpedro> how can i repeat this?
[20:50] <senorpedro> i think i have to point the mouse to some place
[20:50] <phh> senorpedro: move the cursor to the upper left corner
[20:51] <senorpedro> Phh doesnt work
[20:51] <phh> hum
[20:51] <phh> can't remember the shortcut then
[20:51] <senorpedro> oh no wait
[20:51] <senorpedro> it works
[20:51] <phh> senorpedro: it's the Expose effect, you should find it in global shortcut configuration
[20:51] <senorpedro> i was just too stupid
[20:51] <senorpedro> thx phh
[20:52] <phh> lol
[20:54] <osiel> olá
[20:54] <osiel> man
[20:54] <osiel> o que eu estou fazendo de errado?
[20:55] <osiel> anybody here
[20:55] <osiel> ?
[20:56] <compilerwriter> !es | osiel
[20:57] <elitrou> Quintasan: I used cat /var/log/kdm.log
[20:58] <Quintasan> elitrou: and what?
[20:58] <elitrou> it says Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found
[20:59] <Quintasan> elitrou: but you can run kdm?
[21:02] <elitrou> Quintasan: I'm confused about it. How can I check it out?
[21:03] <Quintasan> elitrou: KDM is login screen, that thing where you type login and password
[21:03] <Quintasan> elitrou: try sudo /etc/apt/kdm restart
[21:03] <zerocool> salut
[21:05] <elitrou> Quintasan: Login screen shows up fine. If I try to log in - after the icon of hard disk is shown something goes wrong and it goes back to the login screen
[21:05] <PRO-DRIVE> hello guys
[21:06] <Quintasan> elitrou: sudo aptitude install htop and tell if it mentions something about file being to short or truncated
[21:08] <PRO-DRIVE> hello ,  i have problem booting kubuntu
[21:09] <PRO-DRIVE> iam ubuntu user but when i try to boot any KDE version of ubuntu   i dont know why it failed
[21:10] <PRO-DRIVE> hello !
[21:10] <elitrou> Quintasan: htop installes quite nicely
[21:11] <Quintasan> elitrou: nothing about truncated files?
[21:12] <CrOnOs_> hi
[21:13] <elitrou> Quintasan: During the installation or when running htop?
[21:14] <Quintasan> during installation
[21:26] <elitrou> Quintasan: The only warning it showed is about mandb : no space left on device
[21:27] <Quintasan> elitrou: Do you have any space left? :P
[21:27] <elitrou> Quintasan: I know it is a stupid question - but how do I check it out?
[21:28] <Quintasan> elitrou: df
[21:28] <pavelovich> who is french
[21:28] <Dragnslcr> !fr | pavelovich
[21:28] <pavelovich> thanks
[21:32] <elitrou> Quintasan: df shows strange result - it says /dev/sda6 is 100% used (about 4.6Gb) but all directories inside it are used at most 2%
[21:34] <Quintasan> elitrou: try restarting your computer :P
[21:34] <Quintasan> elitrou: I had exacly same problem but I'm using Radeon graphics card
[21:34] <phh> elitrou: you don't know the principe of an unix tree, do you ?
[21:34] <Quintasan> I couldnt get past login screen
[21:35] <Quintasan> phh: we mentioned /dev/sda6 which is propably his /
[21:35] <elitrou> phh: no... I'm still a newbee
[21:35] <phh> it's really hard to explain hum...
[21:36] <phh> elitrou: every line in the df result is a drive (like C:, D: and so on and windows), but it can be "mounted" anywhere, in particular, anywhere on an already mounter drive
[21:37] <phh> so if c: (totally fake names.) is in / and d: in /usr for instance, you can have / with 100% occupation and /usr with 0% occupation
[21:38] <elitrou> phh: as much as i understand /sda6 and /sda7 are partitions of my HD
[21:38] <elitrou> phh: SDA standing for SATA interface, right?
[21:38] <phh> elitrou: for scsi. (yeah don't mind understanding.)
[21:39] <phh> and yes sda6 and sda7 are the partitions of your HD
[21:40] <phh> it stands for Scsi Disk A (they are sorted with letters) to be precise
[21:40] <kaddi> how can I test if my modified fstab is mounting the right partitions without rebooting?
[21:40] <phh> mount -a
[21:42] <elitrou> phh:so i guess 4.6 Gb wasn't enough for a /?
[21:42] <phh> it should on most systems
[21:42] <phh> elitrou: is your /home separated ?
[21:43] <elitrou> phh: yes
[21:43] <elitrou> phh: it uses sda7
[21:44] <Dragnslcr> 4.6 GB could be filled fairly quickly, especially by the apt cache and log files
[21:44] <phh> Dragnslcr: on standard use it should be fine
[21:45] <elitrou> phh: can i clean it up?
[21:45] <phh> try apt-get clean
[21:45] <Dragnslcr> elitrou- check the size of /var/cache/apt/archives
[21:46] <Dragnslcr> In Dolphin, right-click -> Properties will give you the total size. From a shell, du -h --max-depth=1 /var/cache/apt/archives/
[21:46] <phh> (it should be 0 after apt-get clean)
[21:48] <elitrou> phh: it shows 2 lines - one 4K, another 64K
[21:48] <phh> hu ?
[21:49] <elitrou> du...
[21:49] <phh> it shouldn't give anything /o\
[21:49] <phh> oh you're speaking about Dragnslcr's command
[21:49] <qiyan> Hi
[21:49] <phh> elitrou: after or before the apt-get clean ?
[21:49] <elitrou> phh: yes, sorry
[21:49] <elitrou> after
[21:49] <phh> what says df ?
[21:49] <phh> you've gained some place ?
[21:50] <elitrou> intiniticimal benefit
[21:50] <Dragnslcr> elitrou- check the size of /var/log
[21:50] <phh> and /var/tmp
[21:51] <elitrou> Dragnslcr: log is 9M and tmp is 8.9 M
[21:51] <Dragnslcr> Hm
[21:52] <qiyan> Hi I am fultifaster
[21:52] <phh> elitrou: /usr ?
[21:52] <elitrou> looks pretty negligble for 4.6 GB partition
[21:52] <Dragnslcr> Okay, try this one- sudo du -h --max-depth=1 /
[21:52] <Dragnslcr> That'll at least narrow it down. Might take a minute or so to finish
[21:52] <eunomia__> some from ch here
[21:53] <Dragnslcr> !ch | eunomia__
[21:53] <eunomia__> thx
[21:55] <elitrou> phh: /usr is 3.6GB
[21:55] <phh> well, no luck then
[21:55] <phh> you won't be able to make enough place
[21:55] <elitrou> phh: can i resize the partition without having to format it?
[21:56] <phh> maybe
[21:56] <phh> launch the live cd and launch gparted
[21:56] <elitrou> well, maybe tomorrow. thanks for your help, guys
[22:00] <ubuntu_> Hello, I need help. Could someone explain to me how I am suppose to install grub, when grub is not there_
[22:02] <ubuntu_> I want to install grub from scratch, from a live CD.
[22:02] <besitzer_> hi
[22:03] <besitzer_> HI
[22:04] <besitzer_> WER HAT HEUTE ABEND ZEIT
[22:05] <besitzer_> GUTEN ABEND
[22:05] <besitzer_> HALLO
[22:05] <besitzer_> BIN ICH HIER ALLEINE
[22:05] <Captain_Haddock> !de | besitzer
[22:06] <ubuntu_> I want to install grub from scratch, from a live CD.
[22:06] <Captain_Haddock> !grub
[22:09] <ubuntu_> Captain_Haddock: Well, I can google :D I want to completely install it from scratch. I cannot restore grub if grub is not installed, right? :D
[22:14] <ubuntu_> Does somebody know how to install grub from liveCD. It does not work with, mounting my /dev/sda* and then type grub-install /dev/sda*
[22:16] <ubuntu_> The problem is when I tried to install grub 2, everything disappeared, and when I am tryng to boot I am getting error 15.
[22:22] <sh3p1> join #ubuntu-classroom
[22:26] <ubuntu_> anyone, please?!
[22:32] <qiyan> join #ubuntu-classroom
[22:35] <yoga> How to share files between Kubuntu and  Window 7?
[22:46] <rosa> oi
[22:48] <rosa_> ok
[22:53] <marcio> bug kubuntu
[22:54] <marcio> atualizacao com bug
[22:54] <marcio> atualizacao bloqueada
[22:54] <Islington> hello is there a kde 4.3 version of stasks plasmoid?
[23:02] <darkhamm> hi people, how much time to wait for 4.3.0 rc3?
[23:05] <p2bc> I would like to ask a question, how do I remove a failed install from apt-get from the terminal??? I tried to install FWBuilder, it says that they dependencies have an error, now I can't proceed, all I get is a message to run "apt-get -f" to fix the problem, which does nothing. I tried "-clean, -check, -autoremove, -autoclean, and -build-dep" all of which with no success.  Any help would be great.
[23:07] <compilerwriter> I just did a wubi install on an AMD 64  and the monitor settings were correct until I did updates.  Is there a way for me to easily fix this?
[23:13] <Islington> hello is there a kde 4.3 version of stasks plasmoid?
[23:14] <darkhamm> islington: today kde staff published kde 4.3.0 rc3 , but isn't available on the kubuntu ppa
[23:14] <hocuspocus> can someone tell me what does this mean>>>ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[23:17] <Captain_Haddock> hocuspocus: "man ldconfig"
[23:21] <harjot1> which is the most reliable computer 4 kubuntu to run on with least crashes etcc... ?
[23:22] <harjot1> any1
[23:22] <phh> hum
[23:22] <phh> tough question
[23:22] <harjot1> dell?
[23:22] <phh> it won't be a per-vendor basis
[23:23] <phh> it will more likely on a per-components
[23:23] <harjot1> explain further i dont really understand
[23:23] <harjot1> plz
[23:23] <phh> harjot: what makes an OS instable is drivers, not the manufacturer of the computer
[23:24] <harjot1> ok as if in less likely to breakdown inside?
[23:24] <harjot1> oand intel drivers arent for a start great
[23:25] <phh> don't really know. As far as i've seen, nvidia's driver are the most stables one (and fgflrx the worst ones), but if you hit a G92A....
[23:25] <compilerwriter> bugger how do I reset my display settings?
[23:25] <compilerwriter> !display
[23:27] <harjot1> but if i hit a g92a?
[23:27] <phh> harjot: those cards have big stability troubles...
[23:46] <cattellar> are you people having issues with kde 4.2 using the 185 nvidia driver and desktop effects enabled?