[01:32] <ScottL> the image hasn't built for at least the last two days
[01:32] <ScottL> i'm asking for help in #ubuntu-release
[01:32] <holstein> ScottL: let me know if i can do something...
[01:32] <ScottL> *shrug*  don't know what else to do at this moment other than ask for help
[01:33] <ScottL> holstein, how did your membership go?
[01:33] <ScottL> i saw you talking about cloaks
[01:33] <holstein> im in
[01:33] <holstein> it was cool
[01:33] <holstein> im still excited about it :)
[01:33] <ScottL> super sweet :)
[01:33] <ScottL> hehe
[01:34] <ScottL> congratulations
[01:34] <ScottL> sadly i fear it's just a waiting game in #ubuntu-release
[01:34] <ScottL> TheMuso, do you perhaps have any insight into why the builds aren't happening?
[01:34] <ScottL> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntustudio/oneiric/daily-20110818.log
[01:34] <ScottL> i have trouble understanding some of the warnings and errors
[01:34] <holstein> ScottL: i joined too
[01:35] <ScottL> persia, ^^^
[01:35] <holstein> not that i can help much...
[01:35] <TheMuso> ScottL: No. You can check out build logs at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs
[01:35] <ScottL> TheMuso, i did but i'm having trouble understanding some of it
[01:35] <ScottL> TheMuso, i was looking at: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntustudio/oneiric/daily-20110818.log
[01:36]  * TheMuso looks.
[01:38] <TheMuso> ScottL: That particular log looks like it failed due to has sum mismatches in the internal mirror.
[01:38] <TheMuso> Such transient errors do happen from time to time.
[01:39] <ScottL> TheMuso, i was also checking regular ubuntu builds, they didn't have the same ones but i had to check yesterdays for ubuntu though
[01:40] <TheMuso> Right.
[01:40] <ScottL> TheMuso, should we just wait a day
[01:40] <TheMuso> Have you talked to cjwatson?
[01:40] <ScottL> i have a call in #ubuntu-release about help
[01:40] <TheMuso> Well ti seems they haven't been building for a couple of days, so maybe wait another day, and if still no go, talk to cjwatson.
[01:40] <ScottL> but i haven't talked to him directly
[01:40] <ScottL> TheMuso, roger that
[01:42] <ScottL> sigh
[01:42] <ScottL> oneiric just can't seem to get any traction
[01:42]  * TheMuso looks again to see if I missed anything.
[01:42] <ScottL> i'm probably going to have to shelve a few other projects of mine and focus more on this
[01:44] <TheMuso> No, that appears to be the proble,
[01:44] <TheMuso> roblem
[01:44] <ScottL> hehe, gotcha :)
[01:45] <ScottL> thanks TheMuso
[01:45] <TheMuso> np
[01:45] <ScottL> TheMuso, did astraljava ask you to refresh the meta packages last week or this week?
[01:45] <ScottL> i think he was updating something in the seeds
[01:46] <TheMuso> Yes he did, but I think Colin got there before me.
[01:46] <ScottL> ah, good :)
[01:55] <charlie-tca> ScottL: It might be a server error only. I looked at the logs, and the most relevant error I see is:
[01:55] <charlie-tca> * Fetching branch of http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/platform.oneiric/
[01:55] <charlie-tca> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/platform.oneiric/".
[01:56] <TheMuso> charlie-tca: Thats not an error that will stop things.
[01:56] <TheMuso> Platform.oneiric only exists under the ubuntu-core-dev namespace.
[01:56] <charlie-tca> Then the server is acting up again, since the rest are missing hashsum errors
[01:56] <TheMuso> All derivatives have that error, and its not an issue.
[01:57] <TheMuso> Well given that other images are not built at the time studio is built, it doesn't take much for the archive to be in a state of flux when the cd image build server syncs a copy of the archive.
[01:57] <TheMuso> SO having has sum mismatch errors is certainly possible.
[01:57] <TheMuso> hash
[01:58] <charlie-tca> Yeah, that is what it looks like to me.
[01:58] <charlie-tca> Got quite a few of :
[01:58] <charlie-tca> W: Failed to fetch file:/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/ftp-universe/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[01:58] <charlie-tca> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[01:58] <charlie-tca> make[1]: *** [/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/scratch/ubuntustudio/daily/apt/oneiric-amd64/status] Error 100
[01:58] <charlie-tca> which usually means the server screwed up again
[02:00] <charlie-tca> If there is no answer tonight, at least cjwatson will see it on the channel and try to fix it early tomorrow.
[02:01] <charlie-tca> ScottL: I will follow up on the images in the morning, just to make sure it gets some attention.
[02:02] <charlie-tca> going rest now. too tired to see good :)
[11:07] <ScottL> hi abogani :)
[11:21] <abogani> ScottL, Hi Scott
[11:50] <scott-work> TheMuso: cjwatson basically said the same thing you did last night about slow sync and it randomly happening
[11:51] <scott-work> he said he kicked off another try which may or may not work (as you probably are already aware)
[13:04] <scott-work> cjwatson reports that this time it seems to have worked, i'll check the build later
[13:05] <scott-work> yay!  looks like it might be good :)  http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntustudio/oneiric/daily-20110819.1.log
[13:26] <falktx> scott-work: us image built sucessfully?
[13:37] <scott-work> the log appears to show that it did
[13:37] <scott-work> falktx: i'll download it tonight when i get home if i can remember
[13:43] <astraljava> The daily directory is 20110819.1, apparently the first one was botched.
[13:43] <astraljava> So if you're using a script, or come up with links from memory (like me :D), add that dot one there.
[13:56] <falktx> haha, launchpad super bug
[13:56] <falktx> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/77597624/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-amd64.dssi_1.1.0-3%2Bcustomdata1~oneiric1_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz
[13:59] <falktx> wtf? build time just got from 1 hour to tomorrow!
[14:00] <falktx> hah, and the last upload is only due to day 21... :(
[14:11] <falktx> I see it!
[14:11] <falktx> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily/current/
[14:12] <falktx> scott-work: one suggestion - replace vkeybd with vmpk
[14:12] <falktx> vkeybd uses fltk and it's old
[14:13] <falktx> vmpk uses Qt (so it has desktop integration) and has more features
[14:13] <falktx> astraljava: ^
[14:13] <scott-work> someone also made some suggestions in the mailing list we should probably handle as well
[14:13] <scott-work> astraljava: did you see the two emails about the pulseaudio-module-jack and the ttf-mona?
[14:14] <scott-work> it would be nice if we could incoporate these as well
[14:14] <scott-work> before you do this, astraljava , i have some changes that i can send to you if you are agreeable as well
[14:14] <falktx> astraljava: yeah, we're counting on you ;)
[14:30] <falktx> I'm happy to see an US image finally up
[14:30]  * falktx downloads, ~2h
[14:34] <astraljava> I did the emails, but thought that I'd chat with you guys about them before I upload the changes.
[14:34] <astraljava> did see*
[14:35] <scott-work> astraljava:  i'm good for whenever you want to chat astraljava
[14:46] <astraljava> Might be until Sunday, but then definitely Sunday.  :D
[15:38] <falktx> 30 mins left!
[16:20] <falktx> it's here!
[16:20]  * falktx installs virtualbox
[16:38] <scott-work> falktx: the ubuntu studio image?
[16:39] <scott-work> considering how little we have tested at this point i do not expect it to be pretty :/
[16:42] <charlie-tca> I don't know. Test/don't test still means broken these days
[16:42] <charlie-tca> but, at least you got images today
[16:43] <falktx> scott-work: oneiric still has some package issues, so even installing virtualbox can be complicated
[16:44] <scott-work> charlie-tca: yes, and i wanted to thank you for your involvement, i didn't see your message laast night until very late and didn't read all of it
[16:47] <falktx> ohoh, scott-work, at least it's booting
[16:47] <scott-work> well, read all of it at the time, i did read it this morning and was surprised there was quite a bit of dialogue that i had missed from last night
[16:47] <scott-work> falktx: OH, that's good news :)
[16:48] <charlie-tca> You are welcome. We just have to keep pushing to get things done. Sometimes it takes a group effort :)
[16:48] <falktx> it has been a long time since I installed raw US
[16:48] <charlie-tca> Knowing your hours, just ping me if we need to push the -release people for things
[16:51] <falktx> scott-work: it's installing the base system
[16:52] <scott-work> thanks charlie-tca :)
[16:52] <scott-work> falktx: good :)
[16:53] <scott-work> falktx: are you installing all the applications?  i.e. tone, recording, plugins, video and graphics?
[16:53] <scott-work> astraljava: ailo_ : holstein :  i have another idea for new users, we could make a package to include that would show a png for the work flows for basic processes
[16:54] <scott-work> i.e. we show a flow chart for how audio might be routed to get guitar from the interface, through rakarrack, and into ardour, which finally comes out the speakers
[16:54] <scott-work> just an idea
[16:54] <falktx> scott-work: I haven't got there yet. which one do you want me to test?
[16:55] <scott-work> falktx: whatever you wish, i will test it for all later tonight
[16:56] <falktx> I'll go with the smallest one
[17:05] <falktx_> I selected - none
[17:05] <falktx_> scott-work: failed
[17:07] <falktx_> scott-work: unity is to blame!
[17:07] <falktx_> some libnux error
[17:07]  * falktx_ tries to bypass the error
[17:11] <falktx_> scott-work: I guess we need to wait for ubuntu to fix itself
[17:12] <falktx_> honestly, I never saw the ubuntu guys working so hard as now
[17:13] <falktx_> oneiric changes are massive
[18:08] <scott-work> damn
[18:39] <astraljava> vanilla has really progressed a _lot_ during the last two releases.


[06:07] <bigbrovar_> Hi guys, my company has some ubuntu servers still running 16.04 as instances on AWS. Please what is the best way to get extended support. I reached out to canonical from their website but never got any response. messaged them on twitter still nothing.  The Ubuntu advantage site directs me to amazon market place but I am not sure if that is for new systems or for getting support with existing servers. Can someone familiar with the process help
[06:07] <bigbrovar_> out?  (Sorry if this is the wrong place or wrong question or if I did not RTFM -- please be kind :( )
[06:16] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:58] <bigbrovar_> Hi guys, my company has some ubuntu servers still running 16.04 as instances on AWS. Please what is the best way to get extended support. I reached out to canonical from their website but never got any response. messaged them on twitter still nothing.  The Ubuntu advantage site directs me to amazon market place but I am not sure if that is for new systems or for getting support with existing servers. Can someone familiar with the process help
[08:58] <bigbrovar_> out?  (Sorry if this is the wrong place or wrong question or if I did not RTFM -- please be kind :( )
[08:59] <bigbrovar_> I just need some pointers.. a number to call an email, anything that would make canonical take my money
[13:42] <maret> Hi raid question, i've had 2 disks in raid 0 tried to add 3rd one using mdadm accidentaly turn it into raid 4 using dadm --grow /dev/md0 --raid-devices=3 --add /dev/nvme1n1, so I run sudo mdadm --stop /dev/md0 to stop rebuilding
[13:47] <RoyK> maret: dunno - but #linux-raid might be a better place to ask
[13:47] <maret> thanks
[13:48] <sdeziel> 3 NVMEs in RAID0... that must have a nice throughput ;)
[14:17] <maret> sdeziel: yeah but not now I can stop it :(
[14:17] <maret> I cant stop
[14:18] <maret> or dont know how and reshaping is taking too long and I have to run process across all of those disks
[17:20] <Intelo> while working with ubuntu server and wifi with not initall internet available. What are my options to setup wifi via terminal?
[17:20] <Intelo> https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntu-20-04-connect-to-wifi-from-command-line%20%20wlp2s0
[17:20] <Intelo> + a headache
[17:20] <Intelo> is there an easy way?
[18:28] <mybalzitch> plug in an ethernet cable?
[18:29] <mybalzitch> you'll need to put some wpa packages and possibly some firmware on a usb stick and install from that, if your wifi card is even supported
[18:30] <RoyK> not all machines have ethernet these days
[18:31] <RoyK> Intelo: I get a 404 from that link - normally it's just edit /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf and restart networking
[18:33] <RoyK> Intelo: but the installer should be able to do that itself - some realtek cards require extra "firmware", that is, a blob that is the real driver, since they don't open their hardware specs
[18:48] <teward> RoyK: https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntu-20-04-connect-to-wifi-from-command-line is the link they added extra cruft to the end of their link :p
[19:55] <RoyK> teward: well, that looks rather trivial


[08:54] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: are you in Sevilla yet?
[09:10] <xite> what does the addon edubuntu cd have which desktop cd doesnt have??
[03:25] <crazy_bus> I'm confused.  Here; http://www.edubuntu.org/GettingStarted it says that you need 150mb of ram per thin client.  But here; http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/server-hw.html it says you need 256 plus 60mbs for each client.  Which is right?
[04:14] <cliebow> crazy_bus, depends onn what you run..i think 60 meg is a little lean..
[05:29] <willvdl> highvoltage, can you do a fridge post?
[05:30] <highvoltage> willvdl: ask corey
[05:30] <willvdl> shweet
[05:31] <willvdl> Burgundavia, could you help RichEd with a fridge post?
[05:31] <Burgundavia> willvdl: sure
[05:31] <willvdl> cool, thanks. He's just finishing the thing off
[05:50] <willvdl> woot
[05:59] <highvoltage> hey ogra-classmate!
[06:05] <highvoltage> here is ogra-classmate: http://photos.jonathancarter.co.za/uds-gutsy/PICT0422web
[06:07] <highvoltage> ogra-classmate: http://photos.jonathancarter.co.za/uds-gutsy/PICT0422web
[06:14] <willvdl> is that ogra's happy face? :)
[06:25] <willvdl> ping ogra-classmate
[06:26] <willvdl> ogra-classmate, where are you?
[06:32] <edistar> maybe someone here can help me? If I want to use LDAP for logon for the clients, do I need to change something in the ltsp?
[06:53] <cliebow> edistar:no
[07:11] <edistar> exit
[07:49] <damntech> Hello, I was planning a large LTSP deployment and had questions about limitations of LTSP.
[07:50] <damntech> I am planning an LTSP deployment but I have requisites. Java, Multimedia(quicktime w/o drm), Flash. I was curious how much this will rely on the servers video card and what would be the best solution for many hundreds of users simultaneously using the LTSP server(s)?
[07:58] <cliebow> damntech, the servers video card is irrelevant..many hundres of users on a siingle machine will be tough
[08:07] <damntech> Yeah, we have sites with about 1000+ students
[08:09] <damntech> putting high cpu/ram/storage/(one or two) 10gbps nics  in a few servers will be simpler and about as cost effective as placing dozens of servers on the site
[08:10] <damntech> I was just wondering if Ubuntu supported an x86 device like the Sun x4600?
[08:12] <damntech> Our current method of deployment cost >$2000 per end point. After server, network and apps. Our human resources are running tight but endpoints are deployed faster every year.
[08:15] <damntech> I placed edubuntu on a Dell XPS laptop with 1GB ram and had no trouble with 8 clients simultaneously accessing the webbased educational applications we use.
[08:16] <cliebow> damntech, i believe the sun may be proprietary..
[08:17] <cliebow> we have 600 students in the high school..one ltsp server..an ladpserver..ann file server..and ohh.. ahundred ltsp clients..
[08:17] <cliebow> most all of them worn out netvistas
[08:19] <damntech> Ah. Yeah, We have ~2500 students at our HighSchool which we automatically register from our SIS to our w2k3 AD and I could easily adapt the perl scripts to do this with OPENLdap.
[08:20] <damntech> We have no legacy
[08:20] <damntech> All XP Pro, OSX
[08:20] <damntech> but most of our services are webbased
[08:20] <cliebow> ibooks make a apretty dandy client 8`)
[08:21] <cliebow> too bad it couldnt be wireless
[08:21] <damntech> Yeah, I am looking at super cheap PXE bootable clients like the ones by devonit
[08:22] <cliebow> dont forget there is a 3ltsp channel here as well..
[08:22] <damntech> Really!
[08:22] <cliebow> pretty quiet cause the big guns are at ubuntu summit
[08:22] <damntech> Ah, in oregon?
[08:23] <cliebow> Spain
[08:23] <damntech> Oh the oregon one is later?
[08:23] <cliebow> July it seems
[08:24] <cliebow> i think diskless workstaions is  picking up the ebox 2300..they are cute..
[08:24] <damntech> ebox 2300? you have a link
[08:25] <cliebow> nohrtek.com is one
[08:25] <cliebow> ewayco.com the other
[08:25] <damntech> Yeah, I had tripped over the latter site.
[08:27] <damntech> It would be great to have cheap devices like that.
[08:28] <cliebow> going out for groceries..later..
[08:28] <damntech> Thank you for the ideas.
[08:28] <cliebow> Cool1 good luck if i dont catch up tomorrow


[00:59] <CppIsWeird> so i've got a kernel source and i want to compile and install it. can someone point me to documentation to take me from this point. everything i find so far is sort of confusing.
[02:16] <cs1> hi guys
[02:16] <cs1> im having trouble setting up the LDAP server
[02:16] <cs1> how do i copy the example of the 'backend.example.com.ldif' using terminal??
[02:26] <cs1> guys
[02:26] <cs1> anyone there??
[02:26] <cs1> urgently need some help here
[02:51] <cs1> hi
[02:51] <cs1> anyone here?
[02:52] <cs1> im having troubles how to setup the LDAP server
[03:09] <cs1> hi
[03:09] <cs1> anyone here that can help me??
[03:10] <cs1> im having troubles setting up the LDAP server
[03:10] <cs1> i dont know how to copy the backend ldip file
[03:27] <shabbu> Need help: Error in installing ubuntu 9.10 server in virtual machine manager (QEMU). I pasted my error here http://paste.ubuntu.com/464317/
[03:33] <shabbu> guys help me
[03:34] <webPragmatist> help me help you
[03:35] <jmarsden> shabbu: Here is a guess: The message "qemu: could not open disk image /var/lib/libvirt/images/ubuntuserver.img: No such file or directory" means that file is not there, but you asked qemu to use it.  Tell qemu to use an image that exists, and it will probably work better.
[03:35] <cs1> guys
[03:36] <webPragmatist> GUYS
[03:36] <cs1> i need help in setting up LDAP server
[03:36] <cs1> how to create the ldif file??
[03:36] <cs1> using the terminal
[03:37] <cs1> coz according to the guide
[03:37] <cs1> they ask me to copy the backend files
[03:37] <cs1> but i have no idea how to do it
[03:38] <jmarsden> cat >>somefile.whatever
[03:38] <jmarsden> paste your text in here...
[03:38] <jmarsden> ctrl-D
[03:39] <cs1> u mean this text
[03:39] <cs1> # Load dynamic backend modules
[03:39] <cs1> dn: cn=module,cn=config
[03:39] <cs1> objectClass: olcModuleList
[03:39] <cs1> cn: module
[03:39] <cs1> olcModulepath: /usr/lib/ldap
[03:39] <cs1> olcModuleload: back_hdb
[03:39] <cs1> # Database settings
[03:39] <cs1> dn: olcDatabase=hdb,cn=config
[03:39] <jmarsden> I mean whatever text you want in the file
[03:39] <cs1> objectClass: olcDatabaseConfig
[03:39] <cs1> objectClass: olcHdbConfig
[03:39] <cs1> olcDatabase: {1}hdb
[03:39] <cs1> olcSuffix: dc=example,dc=com
[03:39] <cs1> olcDbDirectory: /var/lib/ldap
[03:39] <cs1> olcRootDN: cn=admin,dc=example,dc=com
[03:39] <cs1> olcRootPW: secret
[03:39] <cs1> olcDbConfig: set_cachesize 0 2097152 0
[03:39] <cs1> olcDbConfig: set_lk_max_objects 1500
[03:39] <jmarsden> No need to paste 5000 lines in here... stop that!
[03:39] <cs1> olcDbConfig: set_lk_max_locks 1500
[03:39] <cs1> olcDbConfig: set_lk_max_lockers 1500
[03:39] <cs1> olcDbIndex: objectClass eq
[03:39] <cs1> olcLastMod: TRUE
[03:39] <cs1> olcDbCheckpoint: 512 30
[03:39] <cs1> olcAccess: to attrs=userPassword by dn="cn=admin,dc=example,dc=com" write by anonymous auth by self write by * none
[03:40] <cs1> olcAccess: to attrs=shadowLastChange by self write by * read
[03:40] <cs1> olcAccess: to dn.base="" by * read
[03:40] <cs1> olcAccess: to * by dn="cn=admin,dc=example,dc=com" write by * read
[03:40] <cs1> ok
[03:40] <cs1> sorry
[03:40] <cs1> im using terminal to create the file
[03:42] <twb> jmarsden: I just plonked him
[03:42]  * twb thinks: why doesn't ubottu deal with flooders like the dpkg bot does?
[03:43] <jmarsden> Maybe it's an attempt to help Ubuntu seem kinder and gentler to newbies??  I don't know.
[03:51] <shabbu> jmarsden, This kernal requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU.    this error occurring
[03:53] <twb> shabbu: so your CPU isn't x86-64 compatible
[03:54] <jmarsden> twb: Or the virtual CPU he set up isn't...
[03:54] <twb> Oh, a VM
[03:54] <jmarsden> shabbu: If your real host PC is 64bit and running a 64bit host OS, then make sure that qemu is told to run a 64bit VM.
[03:54] <shabbu> twb, I am trying to install in  VM
[03:55] <twb> qemu-system-x86_64 rather than qemu
[03:58] <AdamDV1> Why am I getting this?
[03:58] <AdamDV1> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:59] <qman__> pretty straightforward to me
[04:00] <qman__> is your build environment set up right? you need to install it
[04:00] <qman__> build-essential
[04:01] <twb> AdamDV1: usually it's because your CFLAGS has something like -m32, so you're trying to do a half-assed cross-compile
[04:02] <twb> Or, as qman says, simply because you forgot to install all of build-essential
[04:03] <AdamDV1> Yea, it was that.
[04:03] <AdamDV1> Thanks
[04:14] <CppIsWeird> just for a sanity check, i ran diff -rqd /dir1 /dir2, and it didnt report anything, this means that those directories are EXACTLY the same byte for byte?
[05:50] <twb> Is there a standard (or semi-standard) way to set the timezone via DHCP or NTP?
[05:50] <twb> I have diskless netbooting clients, and rather than hard-coding the timezone in the image, I'd prefer to set it only on the server and have the clients pick the timezone at boot time based on the server's responses.
[06:22] <FrooFroo_> twb, you can set the timezone as a kernel parameter I'm pretty sure
[06:27] <enzoplex> Can you change the kmemsize on a virtual environment from the virtualized environment?
[06:27] <enzoplex> *from within
[08:00] <kaushal> hi
[08:02] <kaushal> can someone please guide me about my post on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2010-July/223352.html ?
[09:31] <Takyoji> When I try to setup a network bridge from eth0 to eth1 using bridge-utils, it typically ends up where I have no internet connectivity at all. And when I do a packet capture, the system is apparently asking for the MAC address of the router every second.
[09:32] <Takyoji> (whereas the packet capture is conducted after internet connectivity on the system fails to work, after trying to setup a network bridge)
[09:32] <Takyoji> Any suggestions?
[10:08] <tydeas> Hello there I can not start mysql service
[10:08] <tydeas> Any ideas where can i find info for this?
[10:09] <tydeas> The last 2 days my ubuntu-server fails
[10:09] <tydeas> a lot.
[10:09] <tydeas> XServer does not start
[10:09] <tydeas> mysql does not start
[10:09] <tydeas> wtf?!
[10:10] <tydeas> Can somebdoy help on this??? Tell what i suppose to take info about this failure?
[10:12] <binBASH> check mysql error log
[10:13] <tydeas> checked nothing
[10:14] <binBASH> which file did you check?
[10:16] <binBASH> It's in /var/log/mysql/error.log
[10:21] <tydeas> yes
[10:28] <remix_tj> check disk space :-D
[10:28] <binBASH> yup ;)
[10:30] <cs1> guys
[10:31] <cs1> i keep getting error when im doing the OpenLDAP configuration
[10:31] <cs1> ldapadd : invalid format(line 1) entry = ""
[10:43] <tydeas> this is the error.log http://pastebin.com/BmDgGy72
[10:43] <tydeas> I can not understand much though
[11:00] <tydeas> ps waux returns a mysql entry like
[11:00] <tydeas> root     14589  0.0  0.0   7620   920 pts/4    S+   13:00   0:00 grep --color=auto mysql
[11:01] <tydeas> this is why it does not start
[11:01] <tydeas> ???
[11:03] <Jeeves_> tydeas: No
[11:04] <Jeeves_> That's your grep behind ps aux
[11:05] <tydeas> what?
[11:05] <tydeas> I see
[11:06] <Jeeves_> tydeas: I think you ran 'ps uax | grep mysql' ?
[11:06] <tydeas> yes
[11:07] <Jeeves_> tydeas: The reason that mysql doesn't start can probably be found in /var/log/daemon.log
[11:16] <tydeas> Jeeves_: i is socket issues
[11:17] <tydeas> Jeeves_: check please http://pastebin.com/K1faCMAK
[11:20] <Jeeves_> tydeas: No, you don't have a socket because mysql isn't running
[11:20] <Jeeves_> what happens if you type 'start mysql'
[11:21] <tydeas> root@sindos2:~# start mysql
[11:21] <tydeas> start: Job is already running: mysql
[11:21] <tydeas> omfg
[11:21] <binBASH> :)
[11:22] <tydeas> what is this?
[11:22] <tydeas> ps -A grep mysql returns nothing
[11:23] <tydeas> mysql -u root -p does not connect
[11:23] <tydeas> and now this...
[11:24] <tydeas> http://pastebin.com/ZBfAzQj6
[11:24] <tydeas> check this
[11:25] <binBASH> try
[11:25] <binBASH> netstat -neap|grep 3306
[11:26] <binBASH> with apt-get dist-upgrade you can install kept back packets
[11:27] <tydeas> should i install?
[11:28] <binBASH> sorry, it updates, it does not install :)
[11:28] <binBASH> so if you want to keep your system uptodate you should run it
[11:29] <Jeeves_> tydeas: What does /var/log/daemon.log say?
[11:30] <tydeas> http://pastebin.com/akmv7iJv
[11:31] <Jeeves_> tydeas: And after you type 'restart mysql
[11:31] <Jeeves_> '
[11:31] <Jeeves_> ?
[11:32] <ivoks> nothing
[11:32] <ivoks> daemon isn't started, so it can't print anything :)
[11:32] <ivoks> check /var/run
[11:32] <ivoks> if there's mysql pid fiel
[11:32] <ivoks> file
[11:32] <Jeeves_> ivoks: Usually the daemon start, prints some errors, and quits :)
[11:33] <tydeas> no there is not a .pid file there
[11:34] <tydeas> restart does not work... it makes to much time...
[11:34] <binBASH> tydeas: what does netstat -neap|grep 3306 tell you?
[11:34] <tydeas> binBASH: bothing
[11:34] <Jeeves_> binBASH: ps allready says mysqld isn't running, so the socket won't be in use as well :)
[11:35] <binBASH> Jeeves_: if it's in use by another program surely does :)
[11:35] <binBASH> because he pasted something that the socket bind fails......
[11:36] <Jeeves_> binBASH: Yes, the client fails to connect to the socket of the server
[11:36] <ivoks> does /var/run/mysqld exist?
[11:37] <binBASH> Jeeves_: http://pastebin.com/BmDgGy72
[11:37] <binBASH> This was not a client issue :D
[11:37] <Jeeves_> Ah, haven't seen that paste before
[11:38] <Jeeves_> tydeas: What address do you have for bind-address in /etc/mysql/my.cnf ?
[11:38] <binBASH> maybe the system has dhcp assigned ip address and bind in my.cnf is wrong
[11:39] <tydeas> now i mysql -u root -p and get wrong passwd
[11:39] <tydeas> w8
[11:40] <binBASH> ok, so it's running now, mysqld just used long to shutdown properly :)
[11:41] <binBASH> maybe heavy query was running.
[11:42] <Jeeves_> That shouldn't matter
[11:42] <Jeeves_> But if you're stopping mysqld, the script tries to ping mysqld, IIRC.
[11:42] <Jeeves_> And if mysqld isn't running, that takes a while
[11:46] <tola> Hi, when installing a UEC node controller, what are the default firewall settings? Are all ports open or closed by default?
[11:47] <binBASH> Jeeves_: It would explain at least why the port was in use still :)
[11:52] <qman__> tola, I assume it's a default accept policy, like a normal ubuntu install, but you can verify by running `sudo iptables -L`
[11:53] <tola> qman__: thanks
[12:06] <Shredzp> hello anyone here
[12:47] <tola> that's odd, why does the Ubuntu 10.04 desktop installer see my Ubuntu 10.03 UEC Node controller root partition as "uknown"?
[12:47] <tola> I was hoping to resize it and dual boot
[13:24] <sommer> morning all
[13:51] <eagles00513875> hey guys where does apache2 specify website encoding?
[14:12] <eagles00513875> !apache2 | eagles00513875
[14:12] <eagles00513875> stupid bot
[14:15] <RoyK> eagles00513875: AddDefaultCharset UTF-8
[14:15] <RoyK> or something
[14:23] <eagles00513875> RoyK: ok trying to isolate some encoding issues
[15:01] <eagles00513875> RoyK: you still there
[15:01] <eagles00513875> RoyK:
[15:02] <eagles00513875> do i need to specify in the default type text/plain or text/html\
[15:03] <RoyK> that's set by mod_mime
[15:03] <eagles00513875> RoyK: where did you specify the charset then
[15:04] <eagles00513875> in the apache2.conf file and under what section there
[15:04] <RoyK> I just set it in the virtualhost
[15:05] <eagles00513875> RoyK: would you mind pastebining your virtual host setup for me
[15:06] <_chris_> is it normal to have like 10-15 processes of apache2 running ?
[15:07] <RoyK> _chris_: yes
[15:07] <_chris_> okay
[15:07] <RoyK> _chris_: that is, you can set min/max for mpm-prefork
[15:07] <RoyK> or whatever mpm you're using
[15:08] <_chris_> also that one's running as root ?
[15:11] <RoyK> _chris_: threre's only one running as root, for opening 80/tcp etc
[15:11] <RoyK> the other processes are children of that
[15:13] <eagles00513875> ahhh this is frustrating
[15:13] <eagles00513875> my entire website uses the utf-8 for some reason apanta has screwed up the encoding or something
[15:13] <RoyK> eagles00513875: http://pastebin.com/cr45FbM5
[15:14] <eagles00513875> RoyK: what file is that specified in
[15:14] <RoyK> http://pastebin.com/d86JH2dZ
[15:14] <RoyK> that one's better
[15:14] <RoyK> this was /etc/apache2/sites-available/my.domain.com.conf
[15:14] <RoyK> or similar
[15:14] <eagles00513875> humm i just have my site in /var/www
[15:15] <RoyK> but - gotta go now - http://bukta.no/ opening soon :D
[15:15] <eagles00513875> RoyK: will u be on here this weekend
[15:16] <RoyK> on and off, but mostly off, this festival is a little more fun than chatting
[15:16] <RoyK> but then, you disappeared too
[15:26] <p1l0t> In apache2 for lucid, Can I set the server to serve a different document root for different IP addresses but with the same port?
[15:27] <Jeeves_> p1l0t: I guess you can with mod_rewrite?
[15:27] <p1l0t> what about ports.conf?
[15:27] <Jeeves_> That defines on which ports you want apache to listen
[15:27] <Jeeves_> Wait, with ip addresses, do you mean clients or servers? :)
[15:36] <p1l0t> I want to server a different document root to the internal network than the outside world
[15:38] <p1l0t> But I was hoping to use the same port just on different addys example <IP_ADDRESS>:80 and <IP_ADDRESS>:80 but would that be a problem since its the same port or does it not matter since the ip addresses are different
[15:38] <Jeeves_> p1l0t: So you have two different IP's on the server, right?
[15:38] <Jeeves_> Will you use two different hostnames for the sites?
[15:39] <p1l0t> Oh wait, come to think of it no, lol. because I have a router before the server :P thats why I got confused
[15:39] <Jeeves_> p1l0t: Ok, so you just want to add a vhost
[15:39] <Jeeves_> p1l0t: http://www.debuntu.org/2006/02/22/7-virtual-hosting-using-apache-2
[15:40] <p1l0t> Yeah I will be forced to use two different ports I think
[15:40] <Jeeves_> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[15:40] <p1l0t> Unless I installed a second network card
[15:40] <Jeeves_> p1l0t: No, you don't
[15:41] <Jeeves_> http can serve different sites on the same port for ages
[15:41] <p1l0t> I want to learn these things
[15:41] <Jeeves_> p1l0t: Than read the links I just gave you :)
[15:41] <p1l0t> wilco
[15:42] <p1l0t> Jeeves_: thanks BTW
[15:43] <Jeeves_> yw
[15:43] <p1l0t> Although I changed the 8.04 to 10.04 and it still worked ;)
[15:47] <p1l0t> OH so I could do like admin.mysite.com to a different document root...
[15:47] <Jeeves_> yes
[15:48] <p1l0t> excellent
[15:52] <Italian_Plumber> are there any plans for a 8.04.5?
[15:54] <ccheney> uec provisioning test install takes 15m39s on my laptop
[16:12] <ttx> SpamapS: ugent ping
[16:19] <smoser> woohoo.  http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/maverick/current/ . maverick images 20100716 and newer are registered to grub loaders.
[16:20] <ttx> smoser++
[16:28] <zul> smoser: nifty....you get a cookie :)
[16:42] <MTecknology> trigger_error?
[16:42] <MTecknology> sorry
[16:45] <Hilikus> hey guys
[16:45] <Hilikus>  i'm having problems with mysql. it won't start at boot or if i do sudo service mysql start
[16:45] <Hilikus> but if i start it manually sudo -u mysql mysqld, it works fine
[16:48] <Hilikus> init: mysql main process (946) terminated with status 1
[16:48] <SpamapS> Hilikus: did you read the log file? Maybe it is not configured right.
[16:48] <Hilikus> it is, i've been using this for a long time
[16:49] <Hilikus> the one thing that seems to fix it is to bind to the localhost instead of the network ip, but even then. i've had times where it binds to the network address without problem
[16:49] <Hilikus> like i said, if i start it manually it binds
[16:49] <Hilikus> so it's not binding that's the problem
[16:52] <kirkland> jdstrand: ping
[16:52] <kirkland> jdstrand: the openjdk packages you want me to test are from https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa ?
[16:53] <SuperLag> SpamapS: read any good books lately? :)
[16:54] <jdstrand> kirkland: yes
[17:00] <SpamapS> SuperLag: Drive is awesome. :)
[17:01] <theacolyte> 8.04 LTS - Likewise open has stopped working at random - trying to login yields "Access denied" - I'm trying to find information and I'm coming up dry
[17:02] <theacolyte> Honestly not even sure how to troubleshoot (I am 100% confident on the AD end)
[17:07] <SpamapS> theacolyte: "likewise open" huh?
[17:08] <theacolyte> yes
[17:09] <theacolyte> Actually at this point I'm more interested in removing it cleanly
[17:09] <theacolyte> I've had almost nothing but problems with it in both 8.04 and 10.04
[17:15] <SpamapS> theacolyte: what is Likewise ?
[17:15] <SpamapS> theacolyte: I can't tell if that is capitalized because it is a proper name for something, or just the first word of your sentence.
[17:16] <theacolyte> Are you being serious?
[17:18] <SpamapS> theacolyte: yes entirely. You joined and said "Likewise open has stopped owrking at random"
[17:19] <theacolyte> And what does a capital L have to do with the question?
[17:19] <SpamapS> theacolyte: is Likewise a project, or were you continuing a sentence from a previous conversation?
[17:19] <theacolyte> http://likewiseopen.org/
[17:19] <SpamapS> thank you
[17:19] <theacolyte> It's AD authentication for Ubuntu
[17:19] <theacolyte> Sorry, I read that totally wrong
[17:20] <SpamapS> Yeah sometimes its just hard to be clear in short text messages. :)
[17:20] <theacolyte> I figured out how to fix it at least temporarily which buys me some time to figure out what's happening
[17:21] <SpamapS> wow, $225/incident for support!
[17:21] <theacolyte> haha, really? I didn't even get that far
[17:21] <theacolyte> I'd stick to good ol' ubuntu auth
[17:22] <SpamapS> yeah I'm no help there, though in the past I've setup winbind+samba to integrate with AD
[17:23] <theacolyte> hehe, in likewise's defense, it IS a lot easier than winbind +samba
[17:23] <theacolyte> hehe
[17:24] <SpamapS> Metroid, the original, was easier than winbind + samba.
[17:25] <theacolyte> if I remember right, likewise setup was literally one line
[17:25] <SpamapS> theacolyte: until it didn't work anymore. ;-)
[17:26] <SpamapS> theacolyte: does the thing have any logs? maybe /var/log/syslog ?
[17:26] <theacolyte> oh, conviently it looks like doing an upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04 seems to disable it
[17:27] <SpamapS> doh
[17:30] <eagles0513875> RoyK: hey
[17:48] <zul> hggdh: ping
[17:48] <pmatulis> how can i troubleshoot an upstart job, huh, not starting upon boot?  it runs ok manually
[17:49] <zul> hggdh: can you nominate 579584 and 603363 for lucid for me?
[17:49] <hggdh> zul: doing it now
[17:49] <zul> hggdh: thanks
[17:53] <hggdh> zul: done
[17:53] <zul> hggdh, thanks!
[17:53] <hggdh> zul: I thought you would have had the capability restored by now?
[17:53] <zul> hggdh: nope :(
[17:53] <hggdh> weird...
[17:56] <eagles0513875> jpds: ping
[18:07] <smoser> pmatulis, you can turn on debugging with upstart
[18:08] <smoser> my guess is you're waiting for some event that doesn't occur
[18:08] <smoser> what is your "start on" ?
[18:08] <smoser> can you post the job ?
[18:08] <pmatulis> smoser: and where do i find the debug messages?
[18:08] <smoser> pmatulis, they'll go to the console and to syslog
[18:08] <smoser> hold on, i'll get how to turn it on
[18:09] <pmatulis> smoser: i think i may be affected by an existing bug but my test system does not exhibit it
[18:09] <pmatulis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs/+bug/573919
[18:09] <smoser> pmatulis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/464624/
[18:09] <pmatulis> smoser: see last comment in that bug
[18:11] <pmatulis> or
[18:11] <pmatulis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs/+bug/511245
[18:19] <Xpistos> I don't know where my config file for finch is located. I cann't remember how to find or search for it. Can someone help me jog my memory
[18:19] <eagles0513875> Xpistos: locate finch then it will list all finch related files
[18:20] <eagles0513875> Xpistos: configurations are ususally located /etc
[18:20] <Xpistos> eagles0513875: Thank you brother
[18:21] <eagles0513875> Xpistos: welcome
[18:21] <smoser> pmatulis, so heres my guess  as to what is happening.
[18:24] <smoser> well, hold on.
[18:24] <smoser> what provides statd ?
[18:27] <pmatulis> smoser: nfs-common i think
[18:28] <pmatulis> smoser: so broken system is missing that maybe
[18:31] <smoser> ok. pmatulis so, it seems to me that
[18:31] <smoser> - autofs recommends nfs-common so you should get that on install of autofs in lucid
[18:31] <smoser> - autofs is a sysvinit job
[18:32] <smoser> - statd is a upstart job
[18:32] <smoser> that leads to a race condition where the sysvinit job used to run much later in boot, but now, because there are very few sysvinit jobs, it runs very early.
[18:33] <smoser> the comment there will probably fix the issue, but the real fix is to get autofs to an upstart job so it can properly depend on 'started statd'
[18:34] <pmatulis> k, i thought autofs was an upstart job
[18:34] <pmatulis> smoser: what is the easiest way to check?
[18:34] <pmatulis> smoser: symlink to upstart-job (very non-intuitive)
[18:35] <pmatulis> ?
[18:35] <smoser> i was just looking at the source. and azamat definitely suggests its an autofs job
[18:35] <smoser> but the lucid source has no mention of upstart
[18:38] <Hav0cStyles> autofs is an upstart
[18:39] <Hav0cStyles> http://ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/167397
[18:41] <smoser> yeah, i'm wrong on that.
[18:41] <hggdh> zul: there?
[18:41] <zul> hggdh: yep
[18:41] <Hav0cStyles> Is there a split right now? it's quiet
[18:41] <hggdh> zul: have you seen bug 598476?
[18:42] <zul> hggdh: yeah ill have another look at it
[18:42] <Italian_Plumber> are there any plans for a version 8.04.5 ?
[18:42] <hggdh> zul: thank you. I was going to propose a change, but I am still unsure on how to deal with bzr and LP
[18:42] <pmatulis> Italian_Plumber: no
[18:44] <Italian_Plumber> thanks pmatulis
[18:44] <pmatulis> Italian_Plumber: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule
[18:46] <Italian_Plumber> thanks agian
[19:14] <webPragmatist> hey guys
[19:15] <webPragmatist> I am getting the ureadahead error status 4 … how can i get to my fstab to fix this or something? I tried recovery mode and it doesn't work
[19:15] <webPragmatist> http://ubuntuguide.net/howto-fix-ureadahead-problem-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-10-04
[19:15] <webPragmatist> or even how can i disable ureadahead
[19:20] <pmatulis> webPragmatist: remove package?
[19:20] <webPragmatist> pmatulis: how i can't even boot heh
[19:21] <pmatulis> webPragmatist: oh, well boot with a rescue cd
[19:21] <webPragmatist> whats ureadahead even for
[19:21] <pmatulis> !info ureadahead
[19:22] <pmatulis> webPragmatist: make booting faster
[19:22] <webPragmatist> hrm
[19:22] <webPragmatist> seems ridiculous that this would halt boot
[19:26] <smoser> webPragmatist, fwiw, i dont think that is what is stopping your boot
[19:26] <webPragmatist> it's an inproperly configured fstab that is stopping my boot but that shouldn't stop my boot
[19:27] <webPragmatist> if that makes sense
[19:27] <smoser> ah. ok.
[19:27] <webPragmatist> it should just not mount the dumb drives
[19:27] <webPragmatist> and boot
[19:27] <smoser> well, the way to fix it is to boot rescue cd or usb drive
[19:27] <smoser> then, for filesystems you dont need to boot, do:
[19:27] <smoser> nobootwait
[19:28] <smoser> you want to add that to the 'options'
[19:28] <webPragmatist> hrm
[19:28] <smoser> (see man fstab)
[19:28] <webPragmatist> right
[19:28] <webPragmatist> so if I add nobootwait ureadahead won't crap out?
[19:29] <webPragmatist> or rather it fstab won't
[19:29] <smoser> i think they're unrelated
[19:29] <webPragmatist> the other issue is I think the disk is drbd so it's not even mountable yet
[19:29] <webPragmatist> considering they aren't synced
[19:52] <webPragmatist> smoser: where is nomountwait
[19:53] <webPragmatist> er nobootwait
[19:53] <webPragmatist> i looked at man mount and nothing
[19:53] <smoser> man fstab
[20:06] <webPragmatist> smoser: it's not in there
[20:06] <pmatulis> smoser: that snippet of upstart goodness for debugging purposes, where do thos lines go?
[20:06] <smoser> ah. sorry, pmatulis
[20:06] <smoser> just put that in a "/etc/init.d/debug-me.conf"
[20:06] <smoser> or any upstart job really.
[20:06] <smoser> wait
[20:06] <smoser> in /etc/init/debug-me.conf
[20:07] <smoser> also, you can pass on the kernel command line '--verbose' or '--debug'
[20:07] <smoser> and upstart responds
[20:07] <smoser> webPragmatist, what is not there ?
[20:07] <webPragmatist> any reference to v
[20:07] <webPragmatist> nobootwait
[20:08] <pmatulis> sommer: do you have any idea what section "Add Persistent Log Entries to Job Definition Files" is talking about on http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Debugging ?
[20:09] <smoser> hm..
[20:09] <smoser> $ dpkg -S /usr/share/man/man5/fstab.5.gz
[20:09] <smoser> mount: /usr/share/man/man5/fstab.5.gz
[20:09] <smoser> $ dpkg-query --show mount
[20:09] <smoser> mount	2.17.2-0ubuntu1
[20:09] <sommer> pmatulis: seems like it's talking about how to use upstart to save log files
[20:09] <smoser> $ man fstab | grep noboot
[20:09] <smoser>        hold up the boot for these; ``nobootwait'' which can be applied to non-
[20:09] <sommer> pmatulis: do you have a more specific question
[20:10] <pmatulis> sommer: it's saying by simply creating a file in tmp this is going to help, i don't see how
[20:10] <smoser> well, you can't really review files in /tmp
[20:10] <smoser> as next boot they're going to be cleaned
[20:11] <sommer> right... maybe /var/log would be better
[20:11] <smoser> you shouldn't put stuff in /tmp that you want to see later.
[20:11] <smoser> right. or /root or something.
[20:11] <sommer> maybe /tmp is just an example?
[20:11] <smoser> well its a bad one :)
[20:11] <sommer> ya, don't disagree with that :-)
[20:12] <pmatulis> wow, those nicks are similar
[20:12] <smoser> webPragmatist, so, if you missed the above my 'man fstab' on lucid definitely does have 'nobootwait'
[20:13] <webPragmatist> i see… i don't ahve access to proper ubuntu mans i guess
[20:13] <webPragmatist> is there ubuntu mans online
[20:13] <pmatulis> sommer: i don't get the basic idea, how does one connect upstart to that log file?
[20:13] <sommer> oh, did I get drug into another conversation? :-)
[20:13] <pmatulis> i think i messed up
[20:13] <pmatulis> he he
[20:14] <smoser> kirkland, what gives, why is this wrong: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man5/fstab.5.html
[20:14] <sommer> pmatulis: from what I understand you'd just add a redirect to your upstart job:  echo "Debug Message" >> /tmp/upstart
[20:14] <kirkland> smoser: what's wrong about it?
[20:15] <sommer> pmatulis: in other word I don't think upstart itself is connected to the file, but the paticular upstart scirpt is
[20:15] <smoser> well, 'man 5 fstab' for me gives me something from mount, not from loop-aes-utils
[20:16] <smoser> bummer:
[20:16] <smoser> $ apt-get install loop-aes-utils
[20:16] <smoser> ..
[20:16] <smoser> Adding `diversion of /usr/share/man/man5/fstab.5.gz to /usr/share/man/man5/fstab-orig.5.gz by loop-aes-utils
[20:17] <smoser> webPragmatist, you may be successful trying 'man fstab-orig'
[20:17] <smoser> kirkland, how does that determine what package should give a man page ?
[20:17] <smoser> in the case of a diversion  or conflict
[20:17] <kirkland> smoser: that manpage was extracted from that deb
[20:18] <kirkland> smoser: the script crawls through all debs in the archive, and extracts manpages from them
[20:18] <smoser> yes.
[20:18] <smoser> and what does it do when 2 debs conflict on a man page, or one dpkg-diverts another
[20:19] <smoser> 'mount' and 'loop-aes-utils' both provide that man page.  loop-aes-utils diverts 'mount' version
[20:19] <kirkland> smoser: last write wins
[20:19] <kirkland> smoser: it just untars the debs, does not install them
[20:19] <kirkland> smoser: loop-aes-utils was probably updated more recently than mount
[20:20] <smoser> y. bummer.
[20:21] <kirkland> smoser: do you have a better suggestion?
[20:21] <smoser> webPragmatist, http://paste.ubuntu.com/464670/ if you 're still interested
[20:21] <smoser> i have no better suggestion.
[20:22] <kirkland> smoser: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manpage-repository/+bugs
[20:22] <kirkland> smoser: please file a bug, if none of those describe the issue
[20:22] <kirkland> smoser: it's similar to Bug #544332
[20:22] <smoser> yeah
[20:22] <smoser> i saw that .
[20:22] <smoser> its similar.
[20:23] <kirkland> smoser: and Bug #336328
[20:25] <smoser> fixing either of those would likely fix this
[20:25] <smoser> i'll just comment in 336328
[20:40] <ccheney> today's cd image doesn't boot, is that what daviey mentioned earlier about syslinux being broken?
[20:40] <ccheney> it claims "Unknown keyboard in configuration file"
[20:41] <bobboau> I'm haveing an issue trying to install on a server, it won't install grub2, it asks me to insert the disk labeled blahblahblahlucidlinxblahblahblah into drive cdrom, I'm installing from a USB cd rom because the server does not have a cd rom in it, and I don't have a spare available
[21:24] <larsemil> i successfully log on to my iscsi target from the initiator, but still nothing show up in my fdisk -l on the client. why?
[21:34] <p1l0t> I figured it out :) it's dhclient that keeps changing my ip address on its own
[21:35] <p1l0t> now if I only knew what was triggering it...
[21:35] <p1l0t> nothing in the crontab
[21:37] <p1l0t> WHY I just want my server to stay up all the time
[21:42] <jiboumans> smoser: ping
[21:42] <smoser> here
[21:42] <jiboumans> hey, is it possible to pass commandline options to puppetd using cloud-init?
[21:43] <smoser> puppetd runs via upstart ?
[21:43] <jiboumans> smoser: doesn't look like it
[21:43] <jiboumans> start-stop-daemon
[21:44] <jiboumans> i'm particularly looking to set debug, verbose & trace
[21:44] <p1l0t> sudo apt-get remove dhcp3-client hopefully has solved my problem for good
[21:44] <smoser> looking
[21:46] <smoser> jiboumans, i'm just reading from the packages for puppet
[21:46] <smoser> but it looks to me that /etc/init.d/puppetd reads /etc/default/puppet and respsects DAEMON_OPTS
[21:46] <smoser> you can write that file in a couple different ways.
[21:46] <jiboumans> smoser: yup.. how do i make cloud-init DTRT in that case? it has it's own puppet: section
[21:47] <smoser> the easiest is in maverick
[21:47] <jiboumans> smoser: this is tracking down a bug in lucid unfortunately
[21:47] <smoser> i dont know that you can configure that with cloud-config (i doubt it)
[21:48] <smoser> but with cloud-init multi part syuntax you can eiterh write an upstart job that writes that file (and runs before puppetd)
[21:48] <smoser> or you could write a handler and then trigger the handler
[21:48] <smoser> the upstart job propbbaly simpler
[21:48] <smoser> hold on
[21:50] <jiboumans> smoser: i was also looking for the code that implemented the puppet: directive in cloud-init
[21:50] <jiboumans> but couldn't find it
[21:51] <bobboau> oh cool activity, I'm haveing a problem getting a server installed, when it was trying to install grub it gave me an error like it could't find the cd rom during install and not supprizeingly it wouldn't boot  after that, I've managed to get to a grub prompt when the machine boots up, but I have no idea how to go from here
[21:52] <smoser> in lucid it is in cloudinit/CloudConfig.py
[21:52] <smoser> to write that defaults file, you can put content in user-data like:
[21:52] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/464702/
[21:52] <bobboau> oh, impotant detail, I'm using a usb cd rom
[21:52] <chewbranca> hi, I'm running the 10.04 AWS AMI using an EBS volume for the entire root partition, I'm wondering what the best way would be to mount different parts of the filesystem to separate EBS volumes, any ideas?
[21:53] <jiboumans> smoser: how does that fit with the rest of the userdata? can i just append your snippet to the end of it?
[21:53] <smoser> i figured that question was coming
[21:54] <smoser> you need mime multipart
[21:54]  * jiboumans cringe
[21:54] <smoser> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CloudInit
[21:54] <jiboumans> thanks, i'll go take a look
[21:54] <smoser> there is a tool linked there 'write-mime-mulitipart' and an example of how to use it
[21:59] <smoser> jiboumans, i've got to run. i hope that should be enough for you.
[21:59] <jiboumans> smoser: yeah, i should be able to figure it out
[21:59] <jiboumans> thanks for the pointers smoser!
[21:59] <smoser> i tihnk that will get the file written for you
[21:59] <smoser> you'll want to start your upstart job as early as possible
[22:00] <smoser> because you have to run before puppet
[22:00] <smoser> 'filesystem' will probably get you there.
[22:00] <smoser> 'start on stopped cloud-init' would get you started earlier though.
[22:42]  * ccheney will be pushing his new uec provisioning rewrite to lp later today
[22:42] <ccheney> :)
[22:42]  * ccheney thinks its done
[22:43] <ccheney> probably some bugs still there to be fixed but its much better than before :)
[22:44] <ccheney> has support for mirror selection, partitioning (limited), user account creation in the script now
[23:17] <therianwork> what do you guys prefer sshfs or nfs?
[23:20] <Hypnoz> why would doing a sed replace change my symlinks into regular files? http://dpaste.de/OJi5/
[23:22] <SpamapS> anybody with admin access to the ubuntu-server team on launchpad around?
[23:23] <SpamapS> Hypnoz: because sed -i creates a new file, then renames it to the old one
[23:25] <Hypnoz> ahhh
[23:25] <Hypnoz> interesting
[23:27] <Hypnoz> so now i have to make a script to check if a file is real or sym, and only apply the sed if it's real?
[23:27] <SpamapS> Hypnoz: find may be able to solve it
[23:28] <Hypnoz> so putting an option in find to ignore symlinks, and then doing like a -exec sed...
[23:29] <SpamapS> yeah somethign like that
[23:30] <Hypnoz> thats shitty. Those are the little things that surprise me sometimes, that sed has been around for sooooooooooo long, and still no one has but a switch in it to ignore symlinks
[23:30] <Hypnoz> since it has such a bad affect on symlinks, you'd think someone would have noticed that
[23:31] <SpamapS> it does one thing well. :)
[23:32] <Hypnoz> destroy symlinks?
[23:32] <SpamapS> You start adding crazy features like that and the program becomes a maintenance problem. :)
[23:32] <ccheney> kirkland, https://code.launchpad.net/~ccheney/uec-provisioning/branch
[23:33] <Hypnoz> crazy features? and how about we just throw out tac, and turn it into a -r switch on cat?
[23:34] <Hypnoz> is that craaaaaazy too?
[23:36] <SpamapS> Hypnoz: the only crazy part is that -i doesn't state clearly that it creates new files and renames over top of them.
[23:39]  * ccheney bbl, headed to hospital
[23:42] <therianwork> never a good sign


[14:15] <Bish> heyho, i added a mirror to my dockerfile to mitigate current issues
[14:15] <Bish> can i somehow mark it default?


[01:07] <skynet1248> Hi I have question about kernel dynamic modules
[01:08] <skynet1248> if I execute modinfo parport_serial | grep 9835
[01:08] <skynet1248> I get somethink like this:
[01:08] <skynet1248> alias:          pci:v00009710d00009835sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
[01:08] <skynet1248> is any option to add my own alias to parport_serial module?
[05:11] <micahg> ScottK: pacakgekit is baffling, same build on maverick builds fine, it seems like the mozilla plugin isn't being built for some reason on natty
[05:47] <micahg> ScottK: packagekit solved (bug 692854 if you want to sponsor)
[07:17] <dholbach> good morning!
[07:31] <micahg> Riddell: I fixed the packagekit FTBFS if you want to sponsor it (bug 692854)
[08:36] <janimo> in case binary new requests are to be brought up here: lightspark{,-common,-dbg} and browser-plugin-lightspark on armel were just recently introduced. thanks
[08:44] <dholbach> @pilot in
[09:02] <janimo> Laney: hello, have you had the chance to look at the new way ghc6 fails on armel?
[10:37] <AnAnt> Hello, is this http://launchpadlibrarian.net/61007900/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.git-buildpackage_0.5.12_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz , actually a problem of pychecker with python2.7 ?
[10:39] <AnAnt> doko__: ^
[10:46] <dholbach> james_w, why can't I reject https://code.launchpad.net/~stefan-bader-canonical/ubuntu/natty/e2fsprogs/branch/+merge/43541?
[10:46] <dholbach> there's just "WIP", "Merged" and "Needs Review"
[10:51] <doko__> AnAnt: likely pychecker, we had issues getting it updated to 2.6 too ...
[12:05]  * Keybuk must stop winding Lennart up on lkml
[12:06] <Keybuk> but it's such fun!
[12:10] <dholbach> Public service announcement: we're down to 20 items on http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ - YES!
[12:10] <Keybuk> dholbach: I'm looking forwards to having to get all my uploads sponsored ;-)
[12:11] <dholbach> Keybuk, because you'll lose your upload privileges? why?
[12:11] <maco> you're de-core-dev-ing like crimsun did?
[12:11] <Keybuk> because of a Launchpad bug
[12:11] <Keybuk> I can't transfer my GPG key to my new LP account
[12:12] <dholbach> Keybuk, seems like LP is not set up for schizophrenic personas :-P
[12:12] <Keybuk> indeed
[12:12] <Keybuk> I'm going to nag them about that once they've fixed the gaping hole in LP's brain where all my bzr branches used to be
[12:13] <Keybuk> but you know how it is, Ticket in RT, Out of Mind
[12:19] <dholbach> Daviey, do you know if bug 687971 is still blocked on bug 688522?
[12:19]  * dholbach attempts a test build
[12:21] <Laney> janimo: a bit, not so much though
[12:27] <Daviey> dholbach, I don't know if the openjdk fix has landed in natty yet..
[12:27]  * Daviey checks
[12:27] <Daviey> dholbach, looks like it's still blocked in natty awaiting the openjdk fix (either dropping of two patches, or a proper fix from upstream)
[12:28] <dholbach> Daviey, shall we get the bug out of the queue for now then?
[12:29] <Daviey> dholbach, Hmm.. can do; i'd like to hear doko's thoughts on porting the fix to openjdk from maverick to natty for the interim to get things moving
[12:29] <dholbach> hum, to me it looks like it's building alright in natty?
[12:29] <Daviey> that would unblock and allow us to close those bugs.
[12:30] <Daviey> dholbach, Interesting.... openjdk hasn't been touched since the 26th Nov... so it *should* fail.
[12:30] <dholbach> http://paste.ubuntu.com/546240/
[12:30] <dholbach> Daviey, ^
[12:31] <Daviey> hmm
[12:32] <Daviey> dholbach, lemme rebuild here
[12:32] <dholbach> Daviey, that was with James' branch
[12:36]  * Daviey regrets reinstalling natty... loosing his devel env.
[12:36] <Daviey> losing*
[12:39] <dholbach> Daviey, the old version still builds too
[12:39] <dholbach> (but with the wrong paths, I guess)
[12:40] <Daviey> dholbach, trying to re-digest https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus-commons-ext/+bug/687971/comments/8
[12:41] <dholbach> Daviey, to me it looks like geronimo-jacc-1.1-spec should be uploaded, so eucalyptus-commons-ext can build again, then something done with openjdk, so libhibernate3-java can build
[12:41] <Daviey> That is my understanding. :)
[12:41] <dholbach> Daviey, if that's the case, I'd upload the geronimo-jacc-1.1-spec change now
[12:42] <dholbach> Daviey, go? :)
[12:45] <Daviey> dholbach, It sounds sensible, and i'm not too concerned if it has fall out TBH... :)
[12:46] <dholbach> haha
[12:46] <dholbach> ok
[12:46] <dholbach> I'm sure James will be in touch with me if it fails :)
[12:47] <Daviey> dholbach, No. i really think it will be ok
[12:47] <Daviey> and James probably won't be around until NEXT YEAR :)
[12:47] <Daviey> so you have a year to run, and hide. :)
[12:47] <dholbach> ha!
[12:49] <Daviey> dholbach, Can you give me a ping when it's uploaded please? :)
[12:50] <dholbach> Daviey,
[12:50] <dholbach>  ____ ___ _   _  ____ _
[12:50] <dholbach> |  _ \_ _| \ | |/ ___| |
[12:50] <dholbach> | |_) | ||  \| | |  _| |
[12:50] <dholbach> |  __/| || |\  | |_| |_|
[12:50] <dholbach> |_|  |___|_| \_|\____(_)
[12:50] <dholbach>
[12:50] <dholbach> @pilot out
[12:54] <Daviey> dholbach, thanks! :)
[12:59] <bdrung> dholbach: your ping was very small. it could easily overlooked. :P
[12:59] <bdrung> dholbach: and thanks for getting the main queue down to 15
[13:00] <dholbach> 15? I thought 19
[13:00] <bdrung> dholbach: _main_
[13:00] <dholbach> aha, yes :)
[13:00] <dholbach> next step: get the 2000+ bugs with patches fixed :-P
[13:01] <bdrung> dholbach: you were involved in edit-patch, weren't you?
[13:01] <dholbach> bdrung, mvo was
[13:01] <dholbach> I was part of the discussion when the idea was born - but that's as much credit as I'd be willing to take :)
[13:02] <bdrung> dholbach: this tool needs some love and needs an non-interactive mode for making sponsor-patch a useful tool for the 2000+ bugs with patches
[13:02] <dholbach> bdrung, I agree
[13:03] <bdrung> dholbach: why are you listed as author in edit-patch?
[13:03]  * bdrung tries to make you more responsible. :P
[13:03] <dholbach> bdrung, I don't know
[13:04] <dholbach> I started writing it in python and mvo took it from there and rewrote it in much better shell
[13:04] <bdrung> dholbach: having it in python would be nice - then sponsor-patch could use it without running a command
[13:05] <dholbach> the idea was to get it into devscripts at some stage
[13:05] <bdrung> dholbach: ok, valid point
[13:05] <dholbach> alrightie... I'll take the dog for a walk in the snow now - see you in a bit :)
[13:05] <bdrung> but devscripts doesn't seem to be well maintained
[13:06] <bdrung> dholbach: and i will build an iglu :)
[13:06] <dholbach> ha, excellent :)
[13:06] <dholbach> enjoy! :)
[13:08] <ScottK> micahg: Thank you.  I'll take it if no one else has.
[13:10] <Keybuk> Using distribution natty
[13:10] <Keybuk> bzr: ERROR: Unknown target distribution: natty
[13:10] <Keybuk> --
[13:10] <Keybuk> argh!
[13:14] <mvo> bdrung: yeah, I saw that there are a few open bugs on it, should be straightforward to add a non-interactive mode
[13:14] <bdrung> mvo: it would be nice if you could add it.
[13:16] <mvo> bdrung: ok, I have a look next
[13:32] <cdbs> Keybuk: That is fixed in latest upload to maverick
[13:32] <cdbs> s/maverick/natty
[13:33] <cdbs> Keybuk: and I am waiting for someone to test an SRU upload. Its already in maverick-proposed
[13:34] <Keybuk> cdbs: yeah, it's just annoying that it checks at all
[13:34] <Keybuk> since it doesn't actually put it anywhere
[13:38] <cdbs> Keybuk: I guess you are using bzr bd or something related to its plugins?
[13:38] <Keybuk> yup
[13:38] <Keybuk> bzr merge-upstream in this case
[13:41] <Keybuk> hmm, and now pbuilder isn't co-operating
[13:42] <ScottK> If it's not finding your pbuilderrc it's because sudo changed it's handling of the environment in Natty and it's looking in /root.
[13:42] <cdbs> Keybuk: Would be awesome if you tested that SRU upload
[13:42] <cdbs> g2g
[13:42] <Keybuk> no, it seems to be not installing one of the Build-Dependeices
[13:42] <Keybuk> so failing the build because the dep isn't satisfied
[13:42] <cdbs> upload of package bzr-builddeb
[13:42] <Keybuk> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libselinux1-dev
[13:42] <Keybuk> dpkg-buildpackage: warning: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting.
[13:42] <ScottK> That's on odd one then.
[13:43] <Keybuk> yeah
[13:43] <Keybuk> it looks like it's not parsing the libselinux1-dev [linux-any] properly
[13:43] <ScottK> Ah.
[13:44] <Keybuk> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=363193
[13:47] <Keybuk> jhunt: did we get a useful bash-completion file in the end?
[13:50] <jhunt> Keybuk: yes - in your inbox now.
[13:51] <Keybuk> who should be listed as the author?
[13:51] <jhunt> Keybuk: me
[13:52] <Keybuk> ok
[13:52] <jhunt> Keybuk: thx.
[13:54] <jhunt> Keybuk: it closes bug 672067.
[13:55] <Keybuk> ok, committed and pushed
[13:55] <Keybuk> you'll need to do some packaging changes - but we can do those on thursday together if london works out
[13:56] <maco> Keybuk: s/works out/defrosts/ ?
[13:56] <Keybuk> jhunt: if you wanted to have a go beforehand, you'd need to bzr merge -c 1258 lp:upstart to cherry pick the add, and then modify debian/upstart.install
[13:56] <Keybuk> (man dh_install is the appropriate manpage)
[13:58] <Keybuk> walters: howdy
[13:59] <walters> hi Keybuk
[13:59] <Keybuk> how goes it?
[13:59] <walters> good!  just getting back from doing some volunteer math tutoring at the local high school, it's fun actually =)
[14:00] <walters> how's sf treating you?
[14:00] <Keybuk> SF isn't yet treating me
[14:00] <Keybuk> I'm still in the USCIS queue
[14:01] <walters> ah hah, i had to look that up
[14:01] <maco> how many years is that expected to take?
[14:01] <walters> though i should know it since my girlfriend just became an American 2 months ago =)
[14:01] <Keybuk> I'm supposed to find out sometime between Dec 24 and Dec 28
[14:01] <Keybuk> depending how you interpret their "days"
[14:01] <Keybuk> and whether or not they miss the promised date and just do it later
[14:01] <walters> our days are 24.1 feet
[14:02] <james_w> dholbach, can you upload the package?
[14:02] <maco> did they just give some number of days and then youre supposed to subtract out weekends and holidays?
[14:02] <dholbach> james_w, I'm core-dev, so I'd expect so, yes
[14:02] <james_w> dholbach, yeah
[14:03] <james_w> dholbach, it's bug filing time I think
[14:03] <dholbach> james_w, is it lp.net/launchpad already?
[14:03] <james_w> yeah, I think so
[14:03] <dholbach> alrightie
[14:04] <Keybuk> maco: that's the depending on their intepretation bit ;-)
[14:05] <dholbach> james_w, bug 692998
[14:05] <james_w> thanks
[14:05] <dholbach> de rien
[14:06] <maco> Keybuk: remember, we dont have boxing day
[14:08] <jhunt> Keybuk: thx!
[15:01] <joaopinto> cjwatson, hi, regarding my installer crash yesterday, could you please look at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/546280/ ?
[15:01] <joaopinto> I will file a bug it if it's unknown or unlikely to be fixed on a newer daily
[15:02] <Keybuk> kees: AYT?
[15:02] <cjwatson> joaopinto: please file a bug with the full logs attached
[15:02] <joaopinto> ok
[15:02] <cjwatson> I don't debug from partial logs
[15:03] <cjwatson> I assume you've already verified it on the current daily build
[15:03] <joaopinto> shouldn't the installer crash handler allow me to open the report bug directly  and upload the required files ?
[15:03] <cjwatson> (if that had been a full log I wouldn't have needed to ask)
[15:03] <joaopinto> not yet, I will need to refresh the iso
[15:04] <cjwatson> you should get an apport crash thingy if the installer crashes
[15:04] <cjwatson> if you don't, use 'ubuntu-bug ubiquity'
[15:05] <joaopinto> running ubuntu-bug ubiquity from my current installed system failed :P
[15:05] <joaopinto> I assume it's expected to be run from a livecd session
[15:05] <cjwatson> of course!
[15:05] <joaopinto> I will do the manual link bug reporting and attach the logs, otherwise I would need to reinstall & fail again
[15:05] <cjwatson> fine
[15:10] <joaopinto> done, bug 693027
[15:11] <joaopinto> which package should be used for the bug about the global menu not responding after the failure dialog ?
[15:17] <joaopinto> about refreshing to a newer daily, can I just dd the usb partition into an iso, update it and just dump it into the usb partition ?
[15:18] <cjwatson> I doubt it
[15:19] <joaopinto> ok, so I will only be able to test it after retunring from holidays :(
[15:21] <cjwatson> ev is looking at it now
[15:30] <joaopinto> the booting ubuntu logo looks bad, that is something being worked right ?
[15:31] <joaopinto> "bad" as in, the letters are not round, look "corrupted" on the edges
[15:33] <cjwatson> known, I'll work on it in the new year if nobody's dealt with it before then
[15:56] <pitti> cjwatson: unfortunately adding python2.7 to "minimal" didn't work :-/
[15:57] <pitti> I rebuilt alternates, still there (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20101221.1/natty-alternate-i386.list)
[15:59] <cjwatson> alternates are a bad example
[15:59] <cjwatson> you need to ask me for those :)
[15:59] <cjwatson> how long ago did you add it?
[15:59] <pitti> cjwatson: oh, I do? what changed?
[16:00] <cjwatson> wait, maybe I'm misdiagnosing this
[16:00] <pitti> cjwatson: ubuntu-meta published 3 hours ago
[16:00] <cjwatson> it does have the right priority set
[16:00] <pitti> cjwatson: and I rebuilt the alternates about a hour ago
[16:00] <cjwatson> give me a minute to investigate, then.
[16:01] <pitti> cjwatson: it's not that urgent, no need to drop your brain state
[16:01] <cjwatson> too late
[16:01] <pitti> argh, sorry about that
[16:04] <doko> kenvandine: could you have a look at the libgda4 build failure? more gir transition stuff
[16:04] <kenvandine> sure
[16:05] <pitti> cjwatson, doko: OTOH it's just 16 packages to rebuild for getting everything to python2.7 | python2.6; I can do just that, ok for you?
[16:05] <cjwatson> wait please, this might be a genuine germinate bug and I'd like the opportunity to diagnose it
[16:05] <pitti> *nod*
[16:07] <cjwatson> it should definitely be using python2.7 already in minimal rather than pulling another package into standard
[16:10] <doko> only python2.7-minimal is in minimal, not python2.7
[16:11] <cjwatson> no, python2.7 is in minimal now as a workaround by pitti
[16:11] <cjwatson> that should have worked
[16:11] <doko> ahh
[16:29] <cjwatson> pitti: (still working on it, germinate slows down really dramatically under pdb :-/)
[16:36] <cjwatson> pitti: the short-term solution is going to be to rebuild those packages anyway, though - I'm not going to be able to get a new germinate deployed on archive and cdimage before I finish for the year
[16:36] <pitti> cjwatson: fine with me, I should be able to get this done today
[16:37] <pitti> cjwatson: is there a way how you can reproduce this situation with all packages fixed?
[16:37] <cjwatson> I can probably fake something up
[16:37] <cjwatson> hopefully I can fix it before the archive changes though :)
[16:37] <pitti> cjwatson: also, I'm only going to rebuild the packages which are on the CD for now
[16:37] <pitti> there are a few more in main
[16:38] <pitti> which we could then temporarily seed for testing
[16:38] <cjwatson> I can always just keep this debug directory - due to another bug, it won't refresh its local copies of the Packages/Sources files
[16:38] <cjwatson> so it should be fine
[16:38] <pitti> ah, good
[16:40] <cjwatson> ah, maybe it's not a germinate bug after all
[16:40] <cjwatson> Package: python-apt
[16:40] <cjwatson> Depends: python2.6 | python2.7, python (>= 2.6.5-11~), libapt-inst1.2, libapt-pkg4.10, libc6 (>= 2.4), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.4.0), python-apt-common
[16:40] <cjwatson> Recommends: lsb-release, iso-codes, python2.6
[16:40] <pitti> argh
[16:40] <cjwatson> why that Recommends?
[16:40] <pitti> mvo: ^ could have been a temporary workaround for something?
[16:42] <cjwatson> fix that and python2.6 drops off the alternate CD
[16:42] <pitti> cool, will coordinate with mvo and do that
[16:42] <pitti> thank you!
[16:42] <mvo> pitti: uh, no idea, let me fix and upload
[16:42] <mvo> thanks cjwatson
[16:42] <cjwatson> according to germinate anyway
[16:42] <pitti> mvo: ah, you want to? ok, great
[16:42] <mvo> and bzr blame to figure out what is going on
[16:43] <mvo> pitti: yes, thats fine, I will merge the latest debian stuff along the way
[16:44] <pitti> mvo: danke
[16:46] <pitti> it's the only reverse-recommends in main, anyway
[16:46] <pitti> and in all other components, too
[16:54] <doko> kees, mterry: MIR ping (689766 and 692955), just to resolve component mismatches
[16:54] <mterry> doko, hiyo
[16:55] <mterry> doko, I can take the first, libasyncns
[16:56] <doko> mterry: the second too, please. I did submit these, can't review
[16:56] <mterry> doko, OK
[17:00] <lool> cjwatson: Hey, would you be able to ack and/or promote python-fixtures as per LP #692955?
[17:00] <lool> (I need a fix in a package which is dep-wait on python-fixtures)
[17:01] <cjwatson> I can't ack it, I'm not in ubuntu-mir
[17:02] <cjwatson> my understanding is that I only get to promote source packages that are either (a) trivially obvious (split-out, renamed, etc.) or (b) set to Fix Committed by an ubuntu-mir member
[17:05] <mterry> lool, I'm about to look at that MIR
[17:11] <lool> mterry: thanks
[17:12] <lool> cjwatson, james_w: Yeah, I thought you guys were historical ~ubuntu-mir members
[17:12] <tgardner> how does one find out _why_ a package has been rejected?
[17:13] <cjwatson> lool: nope, never me
[17:13] <cjwatson> tgardner: the archive admin who rejects iti is supposed to mail you
[17:13] <cjwatson> *it
[17:13] <cjwatson> if they didn't then they need a slap :)
[17:13] <tgardner> cjwatson, huh. and how do I find out who rejected it?
[17:14] <tgardner> the email says 'Rejected by archive administrator.'
[17:14] <cjwatson> unfortunately there isn't an easy way.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/31750
[17:14] <cjwatson> tgardner: what package name?
[17:15] <tgardner> cjwatson, linux-meta_<IP_ADDRESS>.29
[17:15] <tgardner> I lookedin both of the bugs mentioned in the changelog, but there were no comments
[17:17] <cjwatson> irritatingly I can't find a record even on the archive master
[17:17] <cjwatson> stable processing is usually pitti, but I see he's left IRC
[17:17] <cjwatson> it may have been an accident
[17:17] <tgardner> cjwatson, well, this isn't an ABI bumper so it can wait.
[17:18] <cjwatson> I can resurrect it
[17:18] <tgardner> cjwatson, that would be fine with me.
[17:19] <doko> marjo: do you have any update on the upgrade failures?
[17:21] <mvo> doko: it looks like its not python releated, it appears there is a problem with the intel driver on the i945 chipset
[17:21] <mterry> lool, python-fixtures FTBFS due to test case issues.  If you're an interested party, maybe you can look at it?
[17:21] <mvo> doko: I added code to the release-upgrader to autopatch pycomile now
[17:22] <cjwatson> tgardner: resurrected and accepted.  if whoever it was didn't want me to reverse their decision then they should have mailed you a reason. :-)
[17:22] <doko> mvo: \o/  is this release-upgrader in maverick-updates too?
[17:22] <tgardner> cjwatson, :) thanks for your help
[17:24] <mvo> doko: everybody upgrading will get it, regardless of -update or not (its the default upgrade app, its always fetched from the distro that you upgrade to)
[17:24] <mvo> doko: diff -ed ftw ;)
[17:25] <mvo> cjwatson: new python-apt uploaded, took a bit longer as I fixed another debfile releated bug along the way
[17:25] <cjwatson> ta
[17:31] <apw> marjo, sure
[17:31] <marjo> apw: here
[17:31] <apw> marjo, can we get the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file for the 'black boot' on the bug please
[17:32] <marjo> fyi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/693093
[17:36] <marjo> apw: done
[17:37] <doko> cdbs: about your liboauth upload. if your change is the only Ubuntu change, please don't make such changes. it increases the delta for no extra worth
[17:39] <apw> marjo, and you are unable to switch to VT1 ?  or you can now?
[17:42] <apw> marjo, can you login to the machine and do the following
[17:43] <apw> DISPLAY=:0.0 xwd -root >OUT
[17:43] <apw> and put the result somewhere i can look at it
[17:43] <apw> marjo, also can you confirm whether the backlight is on (a dark place can herlp here)
[17:45] <marjo> apw: still unable to switch to VT1
[17:47] <apw> marjo, actualy you may need to login to do the xwd thing, so when you hear the drums i think you need to hit return, then password, and see if you get the login sound
[17:47] <apw> then try it
[17:49] <cdbs> doko: okay, it was actually recommended by the upstream author. Moreover, I am the debian maintainer of liboauth, so I can manage delta effectively
[17:49] <cdbs> and I will drop the patch in Debian once gcc-4.5 becomes default there for wheezy
[17:50] <marjo> apw: didn't work
[17:50] <doko> cdbs: it is unlikely that debian will make --as-needed the default
[17:50] <marjo> apw: any other way to try?
[17:51] <cdbs> doko: hmm, will see then. will sync when I get the next upstream version uploaded
[17:51] <marjo> apw: no login sound heard
[17:52] <marjo> apw: backlight is on
[18:10] <lool> doko: Is it intentional that the python2.7 testsuite got disabled in 2.7.1-1ubuntu1?
[18:11] <doko> lool: yes, quick upload, no changes, will enable it again with the next upload
[19:17] <netadmin> hello
[20:22] <ari-tczew> @pilot in
[20:31] <ari-tczew> cyphermox: have you got tested your patch for cnetworkmanager?
[20:34] <cyphermox> ari-tczew, it was, though I didn't re-test it recently since uploading a new NM
[20:34] <ari-tczew> cyphermox: could you do it again?
[20:34] <cyphermox> of course
[20:35] <ari-tczew> cool!
[20:35] <cyphermox> sorry for harassing you about it, it's just pretty much the only way to use NM on the command-line, although I frankly don't touch it much
[20:36] <ebroder> ari-tczew: Hey, I noticed you've had the pinot merge assigned to you for a while now. Are you still working on it?
[20:36] <ari-tczew> ebroder: yes, I'll do it after sponsorship for cyphermox
[20:36] <ari-tczew> ebroder: I'm doing cnetworkmanager 1st as cyphermox is waiting since 8th Dec :)
[20:36] <ebroder> ari-tczew: Ok, just making sure you hadn't forgotten about it. I was going to look at it last night, but didn't want to yoink it from you
[20:37] <ari-tczew> ebroder: I'm pretty sure that you won't be out of work for Ubuntu :)
[20:39] <cyphermox> ari-tczew, still looks good to me.
[20:46] <ScottK> ari-tczew: Did you see clementine is out of binary New in maverick-backports?
[20:46] <ScottK> Should be all set now.
[20:47] <ari-tczew> ScottK: I see that clementine is still New :>
[20:48] <ScottK> ari-tczew: Sorry.  My mistake.
[20:48] <ari-tczew> kk
[20:48]  * ScottK was looking at a different package and didn't realize it.
[20:52] <ari-tczew> cyphermox: what do you think about forwarding your patch to debian/upstream?
[20:54] <cyphermox> yes, upstream
[20:54] <cyphermox> I should send it again, actually
[20:56] <ari-tczew> cyphermox: ok, uploading
[21:04]  * ari-tczew loves review patches by Bazaar, but hates sponsorship it! (very hard)
[21:05] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: sponsor-patch :)
[21:05] <Laney> bzr bd -S ?
[21:05] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: does it support Bazaar?
[21:05] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: yes
[21:06] <ari-tczew> Laney: there are not only build source. now I have to set tags, set merge and 100 other commands...
[21:06] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: bzr mark-uploaded && bzr push :parent (or sponsor-patch :P)
[21:07] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: could you drive through sponsor-patch way?
[21:07] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: sponsor-patch -u $bugnumber
[21:07] <tumbleweed> err -s
[21:08] <bdrung> ari-tczew: you could read the man page of sponsor-patch. it explains it very good.
[21:10] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: okay, I have test built done, it's ready to upload. does sponsor-patch sets all tags and other data necessary for bzr sponsorship policy? (I'm just making sure)
[21:10] <tumbleweed> yes it does
[21:11] <bdrung> ari-tczew: you can run it with "-v" to see which commands are called
[21:11] <tumbleweed> only issue I can think of is that you can't push back when uploading SRUs because there is no $release-proposed branch yet, but that's not really sponsor-patch's problem.
[21:12] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: I'm doing for natty.
[21:17] <ari-tczew> which package includes 'bd' command?
[21:17] <bdrung> ari-tczew: bzr-builddeb
[21:18] <bdrung> ari-tczew: does sponsor-patch fail?
[21:18] <tumbleweed> bdrung: that should probably go in reccomends
[21:18] <ari-tczew> bdrung: yes
[21:19] <bdrung> ari-tczew: show me the crash log
[21:19]  * bdrung nods to tumbleweed.
[21:29] <ari-tczew> bdrung: http://paste.ubuntu.com/546400/
[21:33] <bdrung> tumbleweed: does this work: "login(self, service=service)"?
[21:34] <tumbleweed> bdrung: that service comes from the default value in ubuntutools.lp
[21:38] <ari-tczew> bdrung, tumbleweed: failed :/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/546403/
[21:38] <bdrung> tumbleweed: shouldn't you mention which env variables are still supported, but deprecated
[21:39] <bdrung> ari-tczew: i'll fix it. which u-d-t version do you use?
[21:41] <tumbleweed> bdrung: ok
[21:41] <ari-tczew> bdrung: Zainstalowana: 0.107
[21:41] <ari-tczew> ups, I have to update :/
[21:43] <tumbleweed> bdrung: there's also the option of warning about deprecated configuration
[21:43] <bdrung> tumbleweed: ok, i prefer that.
[21:43] <bdrung> tumbleweed: then we don't need to document them
[21:43] <tumbleweed> oh, even better, yes :)
[21:44] <ari-tczew> cyphermox: sorry for my late, I'm testing sponsor-patch on your case :)
[21:44] <ari-tczew> but don't worry, it will be uploaded soon
[21:44] <bdrung> ari-tczew: your bug is still in trunk
[21:45] <ari-tczew> bdrung: could you qualify the time of fix? I have to know whether wait for fix or play with sponsorship another way.
[21:45] <bdrung> ari-tczew: gimme 5 mins.
[21:45] <ari-tczew> okay
[21:48] <ari-tczew> mterry: you merged bluez with Debian! wow you're my lord!
[21:48] <mterry> ari-tczew, :)  we hadn't done that in a long time
[21:48] <ari-tczew> mterry: I tried to do this 3 times but always I failed :P
[21:49] <mterry> ari-tczew, I only did half of it.  Rob Ancell started it, I just finished it.   Maybe that was the missing piece -- only do a small chunk.  :)
[21:50] <ari-tczew> mterry: mhm. I'm working with Robert on some merges. Your sentence makes me sure that it will be a success :)
[21:50] <bdrung> ari-tczew: pushed fix to trunk
[21:50] <cyphermox> ari-tczew, ah, no worries, I'm fighting a unity bug ;)
[21:50] <bdrung> ari-tczew: you can build it with "bzr bd"
[21:52] <ari-tczew> s/a/an unity bug - english typo ;)
[21:52] <ari-tczew> cyphermox: ^^
[21:52] <cyphermox> indeed. thanks ;)
[21:52] <ari-tczew> You're welcome.
[21:54] <bdrung> tumbleweed: should i call ubu_email() in sponsor-patch?
[21:55] <cjwatson> ari-tczew: actually, "a unity bug" is correct - it's the initial sound that matters, not the initial letter, and "unity" starts with a /y/ sound
[21:57] <ari-tczew> cjwatson: in Poland teach to write 'an' before vowels :>
[21:57] <bdrung> ari-tczew: "teach"?
[21:57] <RAOF> It's not a *bad* herustic :)
[21:57] <cjwatson> that's a reasonable rule of thumb but it fails in cases where the initial sound is consonantal anyway, like this
[21:57] <ari-tczew> bdrung: teachers say to write...
[21:58] <bdrung> RAOF: heuristic?
[21:58] <RAOF> bdrung: Fancy rule of thumb!
[21:59] <micahg> RAOF: I think he was referring to the fact that you said herustic
[21:59] <bdrung> RAOF: my heuristic translates your "herustic" to "heuristic"
[21:59] <RAOF> Ah.
[21:59] <RAOF> :P
[21:59] <RAOF> Spelling, as always, is for the week.
[22:00] <tumbleweed> bdrung: I doubt it, unles s you use the uploader's email address to locate a gpg key
[22:00] <bdrung> my brain to finger interface is broken too
[22:01] <bdrung> tumbleweed: but syncpackage should do it, right?
[22:02] <bdrung> "sponsor-patch 1" crashed. what does this tell us?
[22:03] <ari-tczew> bdrung: how can I use sponsor-patch from trunk? can I copy files manually or rather branch locally and run ??
[22:03] <tumbleweed> bdrung: same issue, you aren't editing a changelog.
[22:03] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: check out trunk; ./sponsor-patch
[22:03] <bdrung> ari-tczew: or build the package with "bzr bd" and install it
[22:04] <ari-tczew> bdrung: I don't understand, bzr bd on cnetworkmanager?
[22:04] <kklimonda> ari-tczew: teachers don't really do that - your may, but it's not really fair to generalize like that.
[22:04] <bdrung> ari-tczew: in trunk
[22:15] <tumbleweed> bdrung: pushed up some deprecation stuff in config-681693 r913
[22:16] <ari-tczew> bdrung: okay fixed, thanks
[22:16] <ari-tczew> now I have a problem
[22:16] <ari-tczew> where are the files?
[22:16] <ari-tczew> I have to got .changes file to upload
[22:16] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: in /tmp/sponsor-patch-SOMEHTING
[22:16] <bdrung> ari-tczew: what command did you call?
[22:17] <ari-tczew> $ ~/bin/sponsor-patch 677589 -u -v<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:17] <ari-tczew> bdrung: I branched u-d-t trunk and linked sponsor-patch into ~/bin
[22:18] <bdrung> ari-tczew: -u requires an upload target
[22:18] <ari-tczew> bdrung: hm?
[22:18] <bdrung> ari-tczew: for sponsoring -s should be used (which is "-u ubuntu -b")
[22:18] <ari-tczew> could you give an example?
[22:18] <bdrung> ari-tczew: example in man page :)
[22:19] <ari-tczew> bdrung: please, I'm not lying on the time...
[22:19] <bdrung> ari-tczew: and i don't want to type everything twice
[22:20] <bdrung> sponsor-patch 677589 -s -v<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:20] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: dpkg-source: ostrzeżenie: błąd weryfikowania sygnatury w /tmp/sponsor-patch-PsgDvt/cnetworkmanager_0.21.1-1.1ubuntu1.dsc
[22:21] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: you may want to configure your gpg with a default key to save you lots of -k typing. bdrung: Maybe we should guess -k parameters from ubu_emial in many places.
[22:21] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: bash: cd: /tmp/sponsor-patch-PsgDvt: No such file or directory
[22:21]  * micahg just made a bash alias for key sponsoring
[22:21] <tumbleweed> it deletes it when it has finished running
[22:22] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: are you kidding me? how can I get these files if this script is deleting at the end?
[22:22] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: very recent change (a couple of revisions ago). You can tell it to work in a specific place, then it won't delete.
[22:22] <bdrung> tumbleweed: good idea
[22:22] <ebroder> ari-tczew: If you would just use -s like bdrung suggests, it will upload for you, but it will always ask you first
[22:22] <bdrung> ari-tczew: in most cases you want to do an upload
[22:24] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: would be nice if sponsor-patch will create files in direcotry where I am ($ pwd)
[22:24] <bdrung> ari-tczew: sponsor-patch -w .
[22:24] <ebroder> Or set UBUNTUTOOLS_WORKDIR=. and it will always do that, right?
[22:24] <tumbleweed> bdrung: only danger of it is that people who've rotated keys will have multiple keys with the same email address.
[22:25] <bdrung> ebroder: yes
[22:25] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: that's what it did previously, now you have to tell it to do that.
[22:25] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: how can I set my gpg to use always my e-mail address?
[22:25] <bdrung> tumbleweed: i found a grave bug: if you use -u and set it to something else than "ubuntu" it wont upload it.
[22:25] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: default-key in gpg.conf
[22:26] <tumbleweed> bdrung: oh yeah I forgot about that
[22:26] <bdrung> ari-tczew: i set DEBSIGN_KEYID is ~/.devscripts
[22:26] <bdrung> s/is/in/
[22:28] <bdrung> tumbleweed: that's why "sponsor-patch 677589 -u -v" didn't fail. it should fail with "can't upload to '-v'"
[22:29] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: thanks for your bugfinding :)
[22:29] <ari-tczew> bdrung: can I specify e-mail address in DEBSIGN_KEYID?
[22:30] <bdrung> ari-tczew: i specified the key id
[22:30] <tumbleweed> I would assume so. gpg can generally take email addresses or ids
[22:30] <bdrung> which should lead to the same result
[22:33] <ari-tczew> bdrung, tumbleweed: if I'm stopping sponsor-patch by ctrl + c, then I'm getting an traceback. it should show only 'Aborted.' or something
[22:33] <ari-tczew> http://paste.ubuntu.com/546413/
[22:33] <tumbleweed> agreed (and that's an issue you'll see in many less-complex python scripts)
[22:34] <ebroder> ari-tczew: I don't agree with that
[22:34] <tumbleweed> ebroder: you want to know where it failed?
[22:34] <bdrung> ebroder: why?
[22:34] <ebroder> I see Ctrl-c as a more external failure than something like "dch failed". As soon as the program starts trying to be clever about those sorts of external failures, it becomes a lot harder to debug them when they occur
[22:35] <ebroder> Like, a program returning non-0 is an "expected" failure in some ways
[22:35] <ebroder> Whereas KeyboardInterrupt isn't
[22:36] <tumbleweed> on a slow connection, sponsoring a big package, keyboardinterrupt isn't that unexpected (but you don't know where to catch it, so you need to wrap main in try..except.
[22:36] <ebroder> I guess I might be OK with a KeyboardInterrupt handler, but I definitely don't want to see something like a try..except that catches all exceptions, or even all Exception subclasses
[22:37] <tumbleweed> ebroder: yeah, with you on that. (And personally I'd rather see th traceback most of the time, but it's probably scary for some)
[22:37] <bdrung> ebroder: would catching KeyboardInterrupt have any bad side effect?
[22:38] <bdrung> tumbleweed: is it possible to print "User abort in $command."?
[22:38] <ebroder> At the top-level? No, you'd just want to be sure to still exit non-0
[22:38] <ebroder> You just do if __name__ == '__main__': try: main() except KeyboardInterrupt: sys.stderr.write('User aborted\n'); sys.exit(1)
[22:39] <ebroder> Detecting where the abort happened is quite a bit more difficult
[22:39] <tumbleweed> bdrung: yes you can dig into the traceback in the handler
[22:39] <ebroder> Eww :)
[22:39] <tumbleweed> yes
[22:39] <ari-tczew> bdrung: your suggested command (sponsor-patch 677589 -s -v) wanted to build in pbuilder!
[22:40] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: that's the default test-builder
[22:40] <ebroder> ari-tczew: Yes, read the manpage
[22:40] <bdrung> ari-tczew: then specify a other builder
[22:40] <ari-tczew> I don't want to build :
[22:40] <ari-tczew> :/
[22:40] <ebroder> Dude, all this stuff is well-documented in the manpage
[22:40] <bdrung> ari-tczew: reading the man page would really help
[22:40]  * ari-tczew hopes that will sponsor one patch today yet
[22:41] <bdrung> ari-tczew: you sponsor without building it before?
[22:41] <ari-tczew> bdrung: wrrrr... I wrote at the start, that I've reviewed and built this one!
[22:41] <ari-tczew> let me scroll up to copy log
[22:43] <ebroder> ari-tczew: So far you've asked us lots of workflow questions about sponsor-patch that are all documented in the manpage, and at this point you've taken more of our time for answering your questions than it would take you to read the manpage and figure out how to do what you're trying to do.
[22:43] <ari-tczew> ebroder: I'm a person on who manpages doesn't work. (not technically, just I can't get manpages on my mind)
[22:44] <ebroder> Did you try?
[22:46] <bdrung> tumbleweed: "Deprecated configuration variable", but which variable should be used?
[22:46] <ari-tczew> ebroder: when I'm reading a manpage, I got a feelling like wearing long johns
[22:46] <bdrung> tumbleweed: "print >> stderr" - should we use Logger instead?
[22:47] <tumbleweed> bdrung: yeah, that was my first impulse, but unless logger is configured (which is not ubuntutools.config's problem), its output isn't very pretty
[22:48] <tumbleweed> I suppose it could gain some logger-configuring features
[22:48] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: seriously, you need to be able to read manpages. People get tired of helping people who don't help themselves.
[22:49] <bdrung> tumbleweed: really? logger only needs the verbose mode set correctly, but this doesn't matter for warnings
[22:55] <bdrung> tumbleweed: we should convert all python scripts to PEP8 (after merging your branch)
[22:55] <tumbleweed> yeah
[22:57] <tumbleweed> yes, setting a basicConfig should be enough. and it only applies the first time it's called, so scripts can still do what they want.
[22:58] <ari-tczew> bdrung: look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/546416/
[22:58] <ari-tczew> I know that I used option -w wrong but whether is it a bug?
[22:59] <bdrung> ari-tczew: lemme investigate
[23:01] <bdrung> ari-tczew: the error is that you set your working dir to: ='~/zainstalowane/paczki/ubuntu/cnetworkmanager'
[23:01] <bdrung> ari-tczew: correct would be sponsor-patch 677589 -s -v -b -w '~/zainstalowane/paczki/ubuntu/cnetworkmanager'
[23:03] <tumbleweed> bdrung: workdir might need to take package name substitutions
[23:03] <bdrung> tumbleweed: package name substitutions?
[23:04] <tumbleweed> ~/zainstalowane/paczki/ubuntu/cnetworkmanager -> ~/zainstalowane/paczki/ubuntu/%(source)s
[23:05] <bdrung> tumbleweed: you can implement and document it if you want that feature
[23:06]  * tumbleweed files a bug for now
[23:07] <ari-tczew> bdrung, tumbleweed, ebroder: I've readed 'man sponsor-patch' and I still don't know how can I drop building.
[23:08] <ari-tczew> It's like communist requirement.
[23:08] <tumbleweed> don't specify -b?
[23:08] <bdrung> ari-tczew: "-s" is equivalent to "-u ubuntu -b" and -b means building. so you can use "-u ubuntu" to upload, but not build it
[23:09] <ari-tczew> bdrung: well, can't I buld *.changes file without building and without uploading?
[23:09] <bdrung> ari-tczew: then drop any "-s" "-u" "-b"
[23:09] <bdrung> just specify a workdir
[23:14] <bdrung> tumbleweed: two things before merging: 1) what speaks against using Logging.warning instead of printf? 2) does the deprecation warning list all possible variables? "Use TEST_foo or UBUNTUTOOLS_foo instead."
[23:15] <bdrung> tumbleweed: 3) i prefer "import sys" over "from sys import argv, stderr" to make it clear where the function come from
[23:16] <tumbleweed> bdrung: 1. I'm busy doing something about logging 2. OK 3. Yes that was necessary for the test-suite hackery.
[23:16] <ari-tczew> bdrung: will sponsor-patch do all things related to bzr without -s option?
[23:17] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: it only pushes back the branch if you've uploaded to Ubuntu.
[23:19] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: ok, now I;m going to upload *.changes file and it won't deal with sponsor-patch. what next with bzr branch?
[23:20] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/Documentation/UploadingAPackage
[23:20] <bdrung> ari-tczew: why don't you use "sponsor-patch -u ubuntu" if you upload the changes file anyway?
[23:20] <ari-tczew> bdrung: I had to test set default key in gnupg.
[23:21] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: I just want to workaround these steps ;))
[23:21] <ari-tczew> I guessed that it's available with sponsor-patch.
[23:22] <bdrung> ari-tczew: you can see the commands in "sponsor_patch/main.py" ;)
[23:24] <ari-tczew> bdrung: lines 473-488 includes what I mean!
[23:34] <ari-tczew> bdrung: again failed... http://paste.ubuntu.com/546426/
[23:34] <ari-tczew> I won't finish it today.
[23:37] <kklimonda> then just do it by hand
[23:38] <bdrung> ari-tczew: i am currently fixing that
[23:39] <bdrung> ari-tczew: gimme 5 mins
[23:39] <ari-tczew> how do you share script which is broken?
[23:40] <bdrung> ari-tczew: it's not broken for my use cases. some code paths are not tested properly, because u-d-t lacks a test infrastructure
[23:50] <ari-tczew> bdrung: wait wait... now gimme 5 minutes
[23:50] <bdrung> ari-tczew: last test before push (i don't want you to complain again)
[23:52] <ari-tczew> does anybody know how can I force my bzr to remember my password?
[23:53] <bdrung> ari-tczew: pushed
[23:53] <bdrung> ari-tczew: bzr ask you for a password?
[23:53] <ari-tczew> bdrung: yes. always!
[23:53] <bdrung> ari-tczew: i was newer asked. what is the exact message?
[23:54] <ari-tczew> bdrung: Enter passphrase for key '/home/ari/.ssh/id_rsa':
[23:55] <bdrung> ari-tczew: it's your ssh config
[23:55] <ari-tczew> bdrung: It's started after switch to kde :/
[23:56] <bdrung> ari-tczew: kde probably doesn't use gnome-keyring
[23:56]  * ari-tczew is killed


[11:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: liquidsoap (focal-proposed/universe) [1.4.1-1build1 => 1.4.1-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[12:23] <RikMills> jmtpfs test listed on the running test looks crashed/hung and dead. can someone help remove?
[12:23] <RikMills> a retry did quickly pass
[12:25] <laney> did it cheers
[12:26] <RikMills> ty
[13:26] <xnox> bdmurray:  i think both intel-microcode and amd64-microcode are already on the layer with kernels installed, and thus need not to exist in ship
[13:27] <xnox> bdmurray:  what's the actual current issue? is there an sku/installer that doesn't install or have access to intel-microcode?
[13:28] <xnox> bdmurray:  note that "ship" is for legacy d-i based server installer that we don't make anymore i think.
[13:28] <xnox> sil2100:  yes, will do now.
[13:29] <xnox> LocutusOfBorg:  need to retest, as debhelper patch might no longer be needed.
[14:32] <bdmurray> xnox: I'm not seeing them in the focal manifest http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/focal/daily-live/current/focal-live-server-amd64.manifest but only in the .list file and I'm wondering if that would cause bug 1938588
[14:36] <sil2100> xnox: thanks o/
[15:10] <bdmurray> sil2100: nvidia-prime has been at 0% phasing for 166 days but will end up being included in 20.04.3. So should it just be fully phased?
[15:34] <sil2100> bdmurray: why is it phased at 0? Has it been manually stopped or are there actual issues?
[15:37] <bdmurray> sil2100: there are a few crash reports
[15:41] <bdmurray> the most common is a broken pipe error https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/cd1fe5ff88b744e0d29132fef0be40627b6614e0
[15:42] <xnox> bdmurray:  commented on the bug. It's more complicated than that. I don't think d-i initrd ever supported to have microcode.
[15:43] <xnox> vorlon:  can https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/1.0.2g-1ubuntu4.20 please be released to xenial-updates and xenial-security?
[15:44] <bdmurray> xnox: ack, thanks!
[18:39] <vorlon> xnox: looking
[18:41] <vorlon> xnox: why was the package built against all pockets instead of security-only?
[18:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qtwebengine-opensource-src [source] (hirsute-proposed) [5.15.3+dfsg-5ubuntu1]
[18:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted postfix [source] (hirsute-proposed) [3.5.6-1ubuntu0.1]
[19:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted postfix [source] (focal-proposed) [3.4.13-0ubuntu1.1]
[19:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted postfix [source] (bionic-proposed) [3.3.0-1ubuntu0.4]
[19:09] <vorlon> xnox: also: open autopkgtest regressions triggered by openssl, if they're hintable please elaborate?
[19:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libvirt [source] (hirsute-proposed) [7.0.0-2ubuntu2.1]
[19:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libvirt [source] (focal-proposed) [6.0.0-0ubuntu8.13]
[20:11] <vorlon> laney, sil2100: do either of you know why my autopkgtest cookies are now expiring much more frequently, forcing me to do a dance to be able to use retry-autopkgtest-regressions via the commandline method suggested in the help?
[20:12] <vorlon> hmm no it's worse than that, I'm getting the 'login' page even with the most recent session cookie
[20:13] <vorlon> ok apparently I now also have to pass the SRVNAME cookie


[08:22] <karthik_>  can any one please tell me how to switch between workspaces using a program
[08:29] <karthik_>  hey i need to switch netween workspaces.. how does it happen internally in the code?
[08:37] <racarr> karthik_: You can use libwnck. Beyond that you have to send the appropriate message to the window manager with X. the EWMH explain how to do it.
[08:38] <karthik_> racarr: wat is EWMH?
[08:39] <racarr> karthik_: Extended Window Manager Hints, its a specification.
[08:39] <racarr> karthik_: You are really much better off using libwnck than doing it yourself, or look in the libwnck sources to see how they do it at least.
[08:40] <karthik_> racarr: ok .. is there any way to find the xid of present workspace
[08:41] <racarr> karthik_: Same answer. Though xid isn't really the term here.
[08:42] <karthik_> racarr: ok i'll try with libwnck and get back to you
[09:43] <Csana> anybody here experienced with ndiswrapper?
[09:43] <Csana> or networking problems?
[11:18] <karthik_> hey can any one tell me the hirerachy of screen,workspace,window
[11:57] <nomadc93> hi
[23:02] <anakron> Hi all
[23:02] <anakron> i have one question
[23:03] <anakron> someone here had a problem with gnome-dictionary?
[23:04] <anakron> Because my native language is Spanish and when i try to search a spanish word, the dictionary says that it can't connect to es.dict.org
[23:04] <anakron> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-utils/+bug/312893
[23:04] <anakron> this is a bug
[23:04] <anakron> that says that spanish dictionary doen't work
[23:04] <anakron> i want to create a patch for it
[23:04] <anakron> i know where i must change it
[23:05] <anakron> but when i try to find a spanish dictionary, only dict.org works fine
[23:09] <anakron> so
[23:10] <anakron> i want to know where i can find a spanish dictionary that only contains spanish words and works fine
[23:10] <anakron> because dict.org is the dictionary server by default