[00:05] <kklimonda> hey BUGabundo
[00:08] <BUGabundo> hey kklimonda
[00:08] <BUGabundo> did you drop me on your JID list?
[00:08] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: no
[00:09] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: hmm, you don't get messages from me?
[00:09] <kklimonda> oh, you did
[00:14] <archer> hi repost my issue : amd 64 failed to hibernate or sleep with on screen message: drm atom_bios loop, drm atom_execute_table_locked.
[00:15] <archer> it is a L310 cpu with ati 3200 HD. someone here?
[00:16] <BUGabundo> some are
[00:16] <archer> nice to hear that.
[00:17] <archer> The error message was not recorded in any written log. And the unit finally comes to a shutdown.
[00:18] <archer> i didn't not remember them all, but it appears that maverick meets a dead loop with bios and don't know how to deal with such operation request
[00:21] <BUGabundo> archer: really???
[00:22] <shilow> has anyone solved the problem with  dpkg-reconfigure and   cron  once i upgraded to   10.10 i haven't been able to  run dpkg-reconfigure -a  because it  stops  after it hits cron
[00:22] <archer> yes. BUGabundo
[00:22] <BUGabundo> why the whois ?
[00:22] <BUGabundo> pff
[00:22] <archer> ???
[00:23] <shilow> anyone?
[00:23] <shilow> ive  did the  good ol google but  i havent found any answers
[00:23] <archer> shilow, I have no clue.
[00:23] <archer> what is your local time, BUGabundo
[00:24] <BUGabundo> GMT +1
[00:24] <jbroome> ah, KVM/apparmor wasn't happy with my .img files in a non-std location.  put them back rebooted and VM started
[00:33] <archer> today's update : ia32-libs (20090808ubuntu6) ...
[00:33] <archer> g_module_open() failed for /usr/lib32/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-jasper.so: libjasper.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[00:35] <kklimonda> ia32-libs strikes again
[00:35] <mellhen> Hy @all
[00:36] <mellhen> i would like to test the new ubuntu font in kubuntu
[00:36] <mellhen> how can i do that?
[00:39] <archer> yes it appears to ia32libs
[00:40] <archer> launchpad bug board said it is already fixed . but update is not helpful yet
[00:58] <Blue1> seem to be having X issues with my nvidia card, known problem?
[00:59] <jbroome> Blue1: did you re-reun the nvidia installer after a kernel upgrade?
[01:00] <Blue1> well I did ALL the upgrades, then apt-get the nividia-185 driver --
[01:00] <Blue1> iow it worked in 10.04, but didn't in 10.10 -- in drivers were ever installed.
[01:01] <Blue1> fresh install btw, NOT upgrade
[01:01] <archer> hum
[01:01] <archer> ATI even worse.
[01:02] <Blue1> yes.
[01:02] <archer> i give up anyhow
[01:02] <yofel> Blue1: there is no 185 driver in lucid and maverick, in lucid it should pull in 195, in maverick I don't know
[01:03] <yofel> the new nvidia package is nvidia-current
[01:03] <bjsnider> there is a 185 driver package in maverick, but it's a dummy that pulls in nvidia-current
[01:03] <archer> my hd3200 has been never correctly recognized by fglrx.
[01:03] <bjsnider> people should be using jockey to instal it
[01:03] <archer> noway
[01:03] <archer> how to use jockey?
[01:04] <archer> no such button or so
[01:04] <Blue1> i think I tryed jockey-gtk iirc
[01:05] <archer> need to  reboot. brb
[01:05] <Blue1> well it hauled in to drivers, I was surprised.
[01:05] <archer> always.
[01:06] <archer> you are already a worrier to use maverick
[01:06] <Blue1> hmm
[01:10] <archer> the first reason to try maverick, was that lucid doesn't support my hardware
[01:12] <archer> what will happen if i remove ia32-libs
[01:13] <Quutar> wierd question... I run Ubuntu in VirtualBox... 10.04.1 works fine in it... but when i upgrade to 10.10 the video driver reverts back to 800x600 and the bidirectional clipboard goes away
[01:13] <kklimonda> archer: there is a backported kernel from maverick for lucid
[01:14] <Quutar> is there a new guestOS drivers setup for 10.10?
[01:14] <archer> kklimonda,  that is to say it is still some kind of kernal>?
[01:14] <kklimonda> archer: ?
[01:14] <archer> ia32
[01:15] <archer> is it safe to remove that ia32-lib ?
[01:15] <kklimonda> archer: well, it's been a comment to your previous statement about running maverick because lucid doesn't support your hardware.
[01:15] <kklimonda> archer: yeah, it is
[01:15] <kklimonda> as long as you don't plan on running 32bit applications
[01:15] <archer> hum..
[01:15] <archer> anonnyyyyinnnggg
[01:16] <Blue1> how about that - intalled a vanila xorg.conf and 10.10 came up.
[01:16] <yofel> Blue1: if you installed nvidia without jockey you need to create a xorg.conf yourself, yes...
[01:16] <archer> at least flash is 32bit,
[01:16] <yofel> or run nvidia-xconfig for that matter
[01:16] <kklimonda> archer: there is a 64bit flash available from adobe
[01:17] <kklimonda> it works better here then the 32bit version
[01:17] <archer> k
[01:17] <archer> remove it
[01:17] <Blue1> kklimonda: yesh the 64 bit flash plugin works way way better then the 32 bit shoe horned version on 64 bit systems
[01:18] <archer> but i am still afraid
[01:18] <archer> that libsound32 is ..
[01:18] <kklimonda> then don't use beta software
[01:18] <kklimonda> what about it?
[01:18] <archer> lib32sound2 is very important
[01:19] <archer> for skype some player
[01:19] <archer> who care, remove first
[01:19] <archer> i hate to read error report
[01:19] <kklimonda> what are you trying to accomplish?
[01:20] <archer> avoid chain effect from ia32
[01:20] <kklimonda> why are you removing it?
[01:22] <archer> errors
[01:22] <kklimonda> oh, cool
[01:22] <kklimonda> heh
[01:22] <archer> launchpad error
[01:22] <archer> incorrectly displaying some items
[01:23] <kklimonda> I don't think how is it related to ia32-libs?
[01:24] <archer> after a error on apt-get upgrade
[01:25] <archer> yeap i don;'t believe it is even related
[01:25] <archer> but after removal , all the desktop interface appears correct
[01:26] <archer> since that error message was the only clue to me
[01:27] <archer> you know
[01:27] <archer> there are running tasks, date, time, im, power-off items on gnome
[01:28] <archer> with that error message, date,time,power off are in a mess
[01:30] <archer> i got it
[01:31] <archer> that might explain why i cannot install ATI version display driver.
[01:31] <archer> with ia32 in bugs itself, how can its 32bit driver program be reliable? and ati drop latest xorg
[01:36] <archer> Blue1,
[01:36] <yofel> erm, you can't install 32bit drivers on a 64bit system
[01:36] <archer> is that true that adobe player is mroe laggy
[01:36] <yofel> applications mights still work with ia32-libs, but to use 32bit device drivers you need a 32bit kernel
[01:37] <archer> yofel,  please refer to ati driver release note
[01:37] <yofel> archer: and where do I find that note? (I don't know much about ati)
[01:37] <archer> ..
[01:37] <archer> it is said ... need to compile it with 32 kernal for 64 bits system or so
[01:38] <yofel> assumed it worked the same as the nvidia ones, and they have seperate 32 and 64 bit drivers
[01:38] <archer> yeah. that is why nv is more friendly
[01:38] <archer> but you have no choice if you buy an amd notebook
[01:40] <archer> AMD-ATI they are from the same plant
[01:40] <archer> at least brand
[01:44] <archer> ati open source drive doesn't support opengl hadware accel.
[01:44] <archer> as a netbook it is for sure a pitty if you cannot install official property driver
[01:46]  * archer disconnects himself by rebooting the router --- is adoble wrapper really more laggy?
[01:52] <eboyjr> Has anyone noticed the the mouse cursor in 10.04 doesn't have the click point (i dont know the real name) at its tip? It's a few pixels down and it make precision not as good
[01:53] <archer> hot spot
[01:53] <eboyjr> Yes, lol
[01:53] <Tekno_> :DD
[01:54] <eboyjr> I know it's not a major issue but I want to bring it up for discussion
[01:54] <dereks> hello. recently on meekrat, my sound stopped working. i get the startup sound from GDM, but when i log in, sound does not work... anyone have any ideas where to look
[01:54] <archer> hum another ia32 issue
[01:57] <archer> dereks,  with my laptop, it is auto___ muted at logging-in
[01:57] <dereks> archer: nope, i have played with gnome, seems it should be playing
[01:58] <archer> sorry. is that to say you cannot make it un-muted?
[01:58] <dereks> it isn't muted
[01:59] <dereks> well, according to the preferences
[01:59] <archer> no clue
[02:00] <dereks> weird, just solved it by turning up in alsamixer
[02:01] <archer> haha almost muted
[02:04] <Blue1> yofel: yeah you can install 32 bit apps on 64 bit system
[02:04] <Blue1> yofel: force install
[02:04] <dereks> why would alsa have it muted?
[02:05] <dereks> the gui tools didn't...
[02:05] <Blue1> yofel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LightScribe
[02:05] <archer> Blue1, how to install adobe-flashplugin please
[02:06] <yofel> ah
[02:06] <Blue1> archer: you are using the squre whatever it's called from adobe?
[02:06] <archer> yes from its webpage
[02:06] <archer> ubuntu one is luanched but nothing in process
[02:07] <Blue1> archer: you are looking for the 64 bit flash correct?
[02:07] <archer> y
[02:08] <Blue1> archer: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[02:08] <archer> will try
[02:08] <Blue1> archer: just untar it, I'll get the locations in a sec
[02:09] <Blue1> archer: this has the right locations:  (old article so ignore the alpha flash plugin, but locations are correct)  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=161
[02:12] <archer> i am reading labs
[02:13] <Blue1> ?
[02:13] <archer> gnash has a server problem. with its cache managment and connection
[02:13] <Blue1> dunno what gnash is.
[02:14] <archer> firefox plugin
[02:15] <archer> is that possbile to make use of offical .so file?
[02:16] <yofel> archer: just follow the instructions, it will put the .so at the right place
[02:16] <archer> thanks reading
[02:22] <archer> good thanks
[03:38] <janakaclk> Is it true that gnome 3 wont come with 10.10?
[03:38] <zeroedout> uh, gnome 3 has been delayed till 2011 last I heard
[03:39] <kklimonda> indeed
[04:36] <bullgard4> When trying to open /proc/kcore for read mc warns: "nm: /proc/kcore: File format not recognized." What does »nm« stand for?
[04:38] <glebihan> bullgard4: nm lists symbols from object files, see "man nm" for details
[04:40] <bullgard4> glebihan: Ah! Excellent! I just read man nm. But is »nm« a acronym? What do the letters n and m stand for?
[04:42] <glebihan> bullgard4: not sure, but I'd say it stands for "nomenclature"
[04:42] <bullgard4> glebihan: I see. Thank you very much for your help.
[04:42] <glebihan> bullgard4: you're welcome
[05:52] <lucent> found serious data corruption with new firewire stack and an adapter I was using (previously without corruption) before
[05:52] <lucent> what to do about it?   anyone familiar with hunting firewire bugs happen to be watching here?
[05:54] <kklimonda> lucent: you will have more luck on #ubuntu-kernel probably, but in few hours.
[05:54] <lucent> oh, thank you for the advice then :)
[06:50] <volodya> I have "gg:foo" open up konqueror and I would like rekonq instead. Changing file associations for text/html, which used to work before, no longer works. Any ideas?
[07:00] <MTecknology> I can create an XFS partition just fine.. but then I can't mount it ... -_-    mount: unknown filesystem type 'xfs'
[07:03] <kklimonda> well, creating a partition requires only tools but to mount it you need a kernel module ;)
[07:04] <MTecknology> kklimonda: indeed... wrong kernel was being used... thanks :D
[07:31] <MTecknology> xfs is supposed to be really fast but less reliable, isn't it?
[07:31] <vega_> repos broken ? W: Failed to fetch http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[07:32] <vega_> hmm, fi/se broken.. nl works
[07:32] <MTecknology> vega_: apt-get update
[07:32] <vega_> that doesn't fix broken repos
[07:32] <MTecknology> vega_: the package you're trying to download might have been updated
[07:33] <vega_> .. no, i'm just trying to run "apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade"
[07:33] <MTecknology> oh
[07:34] <MTecknology> I should have read that better..
[07:35] <vega_> nl.archive.ubuntu.com works ok, so guess it's just those two broken (fi/se)
[07:53] <DanaG> Say, how do I edit a bug's title?
[07:53] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/612591
[07:54] <DanaG> I need to tweak that wording: "Can't use physical middle button on touchpad"
[07:55] <lucent> part of updating the bug with a reply, I think
[07:55] <kklimonda> DanaG: there is a little, yellow icon next to the title
[07:55] <lucent> you might not have permission to do that, someone will
[07:56] <DanaG> ah, it is my own bug.  There's an exclamation-point icon next to description, but not next to title.
[07:57] <DanaG> That bug is a real showstopper... I just plain can't use the Maverick kernel as long as that bug is unfixed.
[07:57] <kklimonda> DanaG: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/612591/+edit
[07:58] <lucent> DanaG: mouse preferences not helpful?
[07:59] <DanaG> Nope.  It thinks I have a ClickPad.
[07:59] <DanaG> So it breaks my middle button, and makes it into a left button if my finger is on the left side of the pad, and a right button if my finger is on the right side.
[07:59] <DanaG> s/and a/or a/
[08:00] <DanaG> Tweaked description:
[08:01] <DanaG> [Maverick] Kernel treats touchpad's middle button as ClickPad
[08:01] <DanaG> Or remove brackets.. Maverick kernel...
[08:01] <kklimonda> DanaG: have you tried raising this issue with ubuntu-kernel guts?
[08:01] <kklimonda> guys*
[08:05] <DanaG> #ubuntu-kernel?
[08:13] <preecher> i dloaded the 10.10 beta--now my sound and video dont do right when i go to a youtube vid--it kinda like hangs and drags if that is understandable--anyway of fixin without havn to do a reinstall?
[08:14] <kklimonda> DanaG: yeah
[08:14] <DanaG> I've pasted the link there.
[08:19] <vinok> hi guys
[08:25] <preecher> can i go back to 10.4 lts from the 10.10 beta without havn to do a complete re-install?
[08:26] <kklimonda> no
[08:27] <preecher> any chance of changing pulse audio then to something else? my sound dont work right after i dloaded the beta
[08:29] <kklimonda> you can try disabling it, check google for steps to do that (it's something like echo "autospawn = no" >> ~/.pulse/client.conf && pulse -k but I'm writing it from my memory)
[08:29] <preecher> thanks
[08:32] <lucent> fried cheese for dinner, yum. waiting for some kernel inclined folks to make an appearance
[08:34] <TiK> preecher: don't use the beta?
[08:34] <preecher> ive done dloaded it
[08:35] <preecher> or should say "upgraded" to it
[08:35] <TiK> why
[08:36] <preecher> because i seen on the ubuntu page it was being offered so i went for it
[08:36] <TiK> pulseaudio or ubuntu 10.10?
[08:37] <preecher> the 10.10----i think the pulse came with it--something changed anyway because before my sound/video was working perfect but i suppose probs are to be expected on a beta
[08:38] <preecher> its just aggravating is all---i can do without youtube but i dont want to
[08:39] <preecher> and i really dont wanna do a complete reinstall either
[08:40] <TiK> prob have o modify the file in /etc/modprobe.d/also something
[08:40] <TiK> alsa
[08:41] <preecher> im lookn at the ubuntu forum now to see what i can find
[08:43] <kklimonda> preecher:  your i seem to be broken.. and o,w,n.. and few other letters (don't abbreviaiate words - doing that makes it harder for non-native speakers to read your statements)
[09:17] <TiK> fun
[09:36] <killer999> any application that support metalinks downloads in ubuntu?
[09:36] <kklimonda> metalinks?
[09:37] <killer999> ubuntu daily build metalink
[09:37] <killer999> from cdimage.com
[09:38] <jpds> Probably not.
[09:39] <killer999> ah....i thought metainks are like torrents and they can be opened with transmission
[09:39] <jpds> killer999: What would be the benefit?
[09:39] <killer999> i need a daily build torrent file
[09:39] <kklimonda> there isn't one
[09:40] <virtuald> killer999: you mean magnet links?
[09:41] <jpds> killer999: Who will be seeding an ISO image that's generated everyday?
[09:41] <archer> someone ?
[09:42] <killer999> uhm...i don't know.....are metalinks and megnet links are same....look at the metalink file, http://pastebin.com/mVs8X6BF
[09:43] <killer999> actuallu I am using chromium and it breaks long downloads....thats why i am looking for a torrent
[09:43] <glebihan> killer999: no metafiles and magnet links are not the same
[09:43] <kklimonda> killer999: use wget
[09:43] <kklimonda> or firefox
[09:43] <glebihan> killer999: where did you get this metafile from ?
[09:44] <killer999> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/maverick-desktop-i386.metalink
[09:44] <jpds> Wait; if you're downloading on a daily basis, why not use rsync or zsync?
[09:44] <killer999> how to use that...sorry I am a bit new to ubuntu
[09:45] <glebihan> killer999: it seems that the informations in this file are incorrect, the torrent link points to a file that does not exist
[09:46] <killer999> hmm....guess i will have to use use firefox
[09:46] <adv_> is there a tool that lets me setup which daemons i want to run on startup? with a current available list or smth?
[09:46] <glebihan> killer999: I'd suggest zsync
[09:47] <killer999> ok...I got the solution....i have added the download url to steadyflow download manager...it can pause and resume too...so no need for torrent
[09:53] <adv_> glebihan, what's the difference of zsync from rsync
[09:53] <adv_> ?
[09:55] <glebihan> adv_: zsync uses the rsync protocol, but zsync is designed for distribution, see http://zsync.moria.org.uk/ for details
[09:56] <adv_> glebihan, distribution? what do you mean
[09:57] <glebihan> adv_: zsync is intended to be used to distribute files from one server to many users, whereas rsync is originally intended to be used for synchronization
[09:57] <adv_> ah thanks
[09:57] <glebihan> adv_: you're welcome
[10:01] <archer> sleeping doesn't turn lcd backlight off. sleep/hibernate meets drm atom_bios_loop , drm atom_execute_table_lock error. any suggestion
[10:04] <adv_> how can i check what runlevel im currently in?
[10:07] <yofel> archer: can you file a bug against linux after following? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspendHibernateResume#Debugging%20Suspend
[10:08] <archer> excuse me. but i don't think it is any related, yofel
[10:08] <archer> since it is a drm err msg
[10:10] <howlymowly> hi poeple...  short question about kmail:  when I start kmail I always have to click on "inbox", so kamil connects to the imap-server and downloads the mail..  is there any way to do this automatically? best would be that i launch kamil and I am automatically in the specified inbox folder with downloaded mails...
[10:12] <archer> yofel,  how to post a feed a bug against that link?
[10:13] <adv_> how can i check what runlevel im currently in?
[10:14] <glebihan> adv_: when do you want to test that
[10:14] <glebihan> ?
[10:14] <adv_> glebihan, hm? now
[10:15] <yofel> adv_: run 'runlevel' without arguments, it will tell you which one you're running
[10:15] <adv_> N 2
[10:15] <yofel> not that upstart cares much about runlevels these days
[10:15] <adv_> does that mean runlevel 2?
[10:15] <glebihan> adv_: when the system is running, you're in runlevel 2
[10:15] <adv_> so 2 is default one?
[10:15] <glebihan> adv_: yes
[10:15] <adv_> thanks
[10:16] <yofel> archer: ok, could be a libdrm bug indeed, I suggested linux as the kernel apport hook gathers most information about your system. And what do you meen by 'feed bug' ?
[10:16] <archer> haha. file it
[10:17] <yofel> archer: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[10:17] <archer> the case is, after xorg is closed or at least log of xorg is no longer recorded, no more information could be gathered by apport
[10:19] <archer> i think the action of auto shutdown is to protect the unit from overheating from dead loop
[10:20] <yofel> hm..
[10:20] <archer> so, yofel. how can i file this bug? no more info avail
[10:22] <yofel> archer: that's pretty much what I know about suspend debugging, maybe the others in #ubuntu-bugs know more
[10:22] <archer> ty . trying that channel
[10:28] <archer> yofel,  that channel is XXXXXXX quiet
[10:29] <yofel> well, I'm not sure what you're used to, but I don't call a channel quiet until there hasn't been at least 3h of inactivity
[10:29] <yofel> it's not like there's an official staff looking just at the channel all the time
[10:30] <yofel> somebody will answer you once they see your message
[10:30] <archer> i could not be there for over 2 hrs
[10:34] <archer> usually we expect some response in 30 min
[10:47] <AlanBell> hi all, anyone having issues with the size of the evolution preferences window?
[10:48] <AlanBell> for me it won't go smaller than 690x780 thus won't fit on a 768 tall screen
[10:51] <vish> AlanBell: its a known issue..
[10:51] <vega_> AlanBell: yes known issue, somebody reported it also few days ago...
[10:52] <AlanBell> ok, evolution really needs to sort itself out with resizable stuff
[10:54] <vish> AlanBell: not sure when that would change , its been around since 2005 ;)  » Bug #23810
[10:55] <AlanBell> yeah, there are a load of bugs like that, especially when the 1024x600 screen was popular
[10:55] <vish> since 2004 in bgo …
[10:55]  * AlanBell is checking out the bzr source of evolution to fix the damn problem
[10:57] <AlanBell> is there a way to check out just the current revision, so far I have 383MB of stuff in the .bzr directory and no sign of the current code yet
[11:03] <archer> AlanBell, there is alt key in the keyboard
[11:03] <AlanBell> archer: what do you mean?
[11:03] <archer> press alt and drag the window. will it help
[11:04] <AlanBell> archer: not if you have y constrain in compiz enabled as is the default
[11:04] <AlanBell> anyhow, I don't have a problem, I have a 2048x1152 monitor, the point is that the code is broken
[11:53] <AlanBell> got a bug number for the evolution preferences window?
[11:53] <AlanBell> the problem is the email preferences-general preferences tab has so much crud on it that it pushes out the minimum size of the window
[11:54] <AlanBell> so that needs a scrollbox outside it, which I think needs to be added around line 530 of widgets/misc/e-preferences-window.c
[13:08] <tukadafoonday> so guys, just downloaded and tried to install Ubuntu 10.10 and when it tried to start the Xserver the video obviously hung and locked the whole system up and therefore i was unable to carry out my installation.
[13:08] <tukadafoonday> So instead i had to install 10.04.
[13:29] <gratz|work> With Hal now deprecated (at least it seems to be.. no longer appearing in d-feet on Ubuntu 10.10 beta - meerkat), what is the best way to programmatically detect device inserts for things like usb devices? Before I could watch for a 'DeviceAdded' signal on Hal.Manager..
[13:31] <archer> yofel,  3 hrs already
[13:31] <archer> it is as quiet as the tomb .   Will I be fighting a neverending battle, fixing each little issue, until I upgrade to Maverick?
[13:40] <gratz|work> bjsnider, was hoping for a nicer way
[13:40] <gratz|work> there's udev i guess
[13:44] <bjsnider> i'm not sure you're going to get an answer in this channel. you need to talk to an ubuntu hacker, and they just don't live here
[13:45] <jared> can anyone help me with terminal crashing in xubuntu maverick?
[13:55] <gratz|work> sorted it, udev :) thx all / bjsnider
[13:58] <glaucous> I'm looking for the Ubuntu 10.10 repository, I'm not officially using Ubuntu 10.10 (sitting on backports). Apparently the .10 repository has the latest Catalyst/AMD/ATI fglrx drivers which I need for Xorg 1.9. Somehow I can't find the repo
[14:06] <rye> Is there any bug report regarding  Alt+PrintScreen not working in Maverick?
[14:07] <rye> i mean is there anybody else suffering from this
[14:18] <BajK> nice :) They finally fixed the start splash in 10.10, now it says "Kubuntu"
[14:28] <blue_anna> I got this error this morning runniing the update manager: http://nopaste.dk/p2476
[14:29] <blue_anna> well I ran it again from the cl after the update manager failed
[14:29] <BajK> blue_anna: did you try update? sudo apt-get update
[14:29] <BajK> to refresh package list and might fix broken urls
[14:29] <blue_anna> yes
[14:29] <blue_anna> I did that first, but the results were not unusual so I didnt include them
[14:35] <yofel> blue_anna: can you try to run 'sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends python-virtkey' and try to install it again after that?
[14:35] <blue_anna> BajK, there is no broken url
[14:35] <BajK> ah right, did not read properly ;)
[14:36] <blue_anna> how do I get info on a package?
[14:36] <blue_anna> onboard requires python-virtkey
[14:37] <blue_anna> but I dont know what that is
[14:37] <yofel> apt-cache show $packagename
[14:37] <blue_anna> yofel, thank you
[14:37] <blue_anna> oo I dont need that
[14:38] <yofel> ok, python-virtkey just failed to upgrade here too :(
[14:40] <blue_anna> for my use -- its cool because I know I dont need the onboard package. thank you, the purge fixes my issue
[14:40] <yofel> already reported as bug 648695
[14:41] <JAMD456> I got an odd error using the Update Manager, something about the Package updater failing
[14:43] <yofel> JAMD456: open a terminal and run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' and tell me what package failed
[14:43] <JAMD456> python-virtkey
[14:43] <JAMD456>  onboard
[14:43] <yofel> ok, that's bug 648695
[14:46] <JAMD456> Why is the error "Critical"?
[14:47] <Pici> Because that package is part of ubuntu-desktop.
[14:53] <bilalakhtar> On my maverick system, update of package python-virtkey is failing because of the absense of a .egg file. Anyone else facing the same problem?
[14:53] <yofel> bug 648695
[14:54] <bilalakhtar> Thanks yofel !
[14:56] <mikebeecham> hi guys....I have a disturbing no boot-up after running update manager
[14:56] <mikebeecham> every time I try to boot, I get as far as "all: disconnected from Plymouth"
[14:56] <mikebeecham> and nothing else
[14:57] <mikebeecham> can anyone help me get back to a working desktop?
[14:57] <bilalakhtar> mikebeecham: Once you get it, press Ctrl+Alt+F2 and log in with your credentials and type startx in the command line that comes
[14:57] <bilalakhtar> and tell us if that works
[14:57] <mikebeecham> fatal server error
[14:57] <mikebeecham> no screens found
[14:58] <bilalakhtar> hmm
[14:58] <mikebeecham> ddxSigGiveUp
[14:58] <mikebeecham> closing log
[14:58] <mikebeecham> just tried a second time
[14:58] <mikebeecham> same thing
[14:58] <bilalakhtar> hmm
[14:59] <bilalakhtar> I cannot help then
[14:59] <mikebeecham> mind you...it was a HUGE list of update
[14:59] <bilalakhtar> sorry
[14:59] <mikebeecham> can anyone else help?
[14:59] <bilalakhtar> Anyone here who can help mikebeecham ?
[14:59] <mikebeecham> unable to connect to X server
[14:59] <mikebeecham> No such process (errno 3): Server error
[15:00] <yofel> mikebeecham: can you pastebin you /var/log/Xorg.0.log? (using pastebinit)
[15:01] <mikebeecham> yofel, you might need to guide me, I've only ever pastebinned, through desktop
[15:01] <yofel> !pastebinit
[15:01] <yofel> well, just run 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[15:01] <mikebeecham> installing it
[15:02] <mikebeecham> http://pastebin.com/EqEjDMtP
[15:02] <mikebeecham> thanks so much for your help guys
[15:03] <yofel> does 'lsmod | grep nvidia' show something?
[15:04] <mikebeecham> nvidia    9327267   0
[15:04] <mikebeecham> agpgart   32011    2    nvidia,via_agp
[15:04] <yofel> ok... are you using gnome, kde, xfce, lxde..?
[15:04] <mikebeecham> gnome sir
[15:05] <yofel> then try to restart gdm, sudo service gdm restart
[15:05] <mikebeecham> gdm start/running, process 1686
[15:06] <mikebeecham> if I do it again, I get a different number...this time 1715
[15:06] <yofel> yeah, and x still doesn't come up?
[15:06] <mikebeecham> nope...I remain in ttyl
[15:07] <yofel> switching to tty7 or 8 gives you a black screen?
[15:07] <mikebeecham> sorry, how?
[15:07] <yofel> ctrl+alt+f7 / f8
[15:07] <mikebeecham> ahhh ok
[15:07] <mikebeecham> well, f8 does nothing
[15:07] <mikebeecham> f7....
[15:08] <mikebeecham> it's trying to mount my cifs shares at the momebnt, but has terminated the first two with status 32
[15:08] <mikebeecham> now all I have is a blinking cursor
[15:09] <mikebeecham> still blinking
[15:09] <yofel> odd.. go  back to tty2 and reinstall the nvidia driver
[15:09] <mikebeecham> sorry mate...how?
[15:09] <mikebeecham> sudo apt-get install nvidia-common?
[15:09] <popey> nvidia-current
[15:09] <yofel> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[15:10] <mikebeecham> ok...removing now
[15:11] <mikebeecham> i wonder if it has anything to do with the nvidia beta drivers I installed recently?  I installed them as I experienced nvidia lag since upgrading to maverick
[15:11] <yofel> errrr
[15:11] <mikebeecham> anyway, it's installing current drivers at the moment
[15:11] <yofel> you didn't by chance use the drivers from the nvidia site?
[15:11] <mikebeecham> yessir
[15:11] <yofel> the .run
[15:11] <mikebeecham> yessir
[15:11] <yofel> OUCH
[15:11] <mikebeecham> *feels shame coming on*
[15:12] <mikebeecham> you should probably slap me about now, huh?
[15:12] <yofel> no, you can use them if you know what you're doing, but they don't play well with our package management and updating process
[15:12] <mikebeecham> ahhh ok
[15:12] <yofel> mikebeecham: remove the nvidia-current package and install the .run file again
[15:13] <mikebeecham> normally I stick with what Ubuntu serves up....however I noticed the lag that was documented on OMG Ubuntu
[15:13] <mikebeecham> well let me get back to a desktop first before I dice with desktop death again :D
[15:13] <wzssyqa> is ubiquity-frontend-gtk broken?
[15:14] <mikebeecham> almost there yofel
[15:14] <mikebeecham> and again...thanks for your time
[15:15] <yofel> mikebeecham: about beta drivers: there is 260.19.06 in the x-updates ppa https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/
[15:15] <mikebeecham> to be honest, I'm not sure I even kept the .run drivers
[15:15] <mikebeecham> unpacking drivers
[15:16] <mikebeecham> depmod...
[15:16] <mikebeecham> right...back to cursor
[15:16] <mikebeecham> what now mate?
[15:16] <yofel> reboot
[15:16] <mikebeecham> ok...sec
[15:16] <mikebeecham> rebooting
[15:17] <mikebeecham> hopefully, Ill get past plymouth this time
[15:17] <mikebeecham> goodne4ss I hate plymouth...it dont even look right
[15:18] <mikebeecham> nope...back to ttyl
[15:18] <mikebeecham> Ubuntu Maverick (development branch)
[15:18] <mikebeecham> tty1
[15:19] <mikebeecham> i'm trying tty7
[15:19] <mikebeecham> starting winbind maemon winbind
[15:19] <mikebeecham> daemon**
[15:19] <mikebeecham> nothing but flashing cursor
[15:19] <yofel> *sigh*
[15:19] <yofel> what does your Xorg.0.log say this time? same error?
[15:20] <mikebeecham> will pastebin it
[15:20] <mikebeecham> hmmm
[15:20] <mikebeecham> above my login on tty1
[15:21] <mikebeecham> Your CPU appears to be lacking expected security protections.  Please check your bios settings
[15:21] <mikebeecham> and my pastebin:
[15:21] <mikebeecham> http://pastebin.com/1KkvjVW7
[15:22] <blue_anna> Im debugging a xwindows internals problem on my machine too, what is yours? is there a launcpad ticket?
[15:22] <mikebeecham> blue_anna:  me?
[15:22] <blue_anna> its you who cant start x right?
[15:22] <mikebeecham> yeah
[15:23] <mikebeecham> thats right....carried out an Update Manager update
[15:23] <mikebeecham> rebooted and BAM
[15:23] <mikebeecham> no X
[15:23] <yofel> mikebeecham: ok, now the driver is there, but can't be loaded... can you run 'dmesg | tail -n 100 | pastebinit' ?
[15:23] <mikebeecham> ok sec
[15:24] <brobostigon> afternoonings
[15:24] <blue_anna> after a fresh upgrade I had no X .. I had to remove my old /etc/X11/xorg.conf file .. and then I found it was using the fbdev driver instead of the one for nvidia
[15:24] <mikebeecham> http://pastebin.com/r9KFvh0M
[15:24] <yofel> right, nvidia needs xorg.conf - the proprietary driver at least
[15:24] <mikebeecham> blue_anna: well I have a very nicce gentlemain helping me since I'm a compelte OAF in this area
[15:25] <brobostigon> when i apt-get upgraded earlier, i am getting dpkg errors with python-virtkey and onboard,is this already known ?
[15:25] <yofel> brobostigon: see topic
[15:25] <blue_anna> mikebeecham, yes I see :) Iḿ listening for hints for myself too ;)
[15:25] <mikebeecham> :D
[15:25] <brobostigon> yofel: i wasnt concentrating, sorry, thank you.
[15:25] <blue_anna> brobostigon, I just hit that this morning. I just uninstalled onboard .. do you need it?
[15:26] <brobostigon> blue_anna: onscreen keyboard, no,
[15:27] <yofel> mikebeecham: ok... what I suspect what happened: you installed the .run, UM updated some Xorg files owerwriting some of the nvidia installed ones, now you have installed the nvidia-current package providing some of them again, but the module is from the beta package. And trying to mix 2 different nvidia driver versions doesn't work
[15:27] <mikebeecham> ok, makes sense mate
[15:28] <yofel> easiest way would be you remove nvidia-current again, fetch the .run and install that again
[15:28] <mikebeecham> notably cause I was trying to be cleverer than I actually am!
[15:28] <yofel> recovering a system after having an nvidia.run installed ones isn't too easy
[15:28] <mikebeecham> ok, but how would I get the .run if I cant get to the nivida website
[15:28] <yofel> or... hm
[15:29] <mikebeecham> yup?
[15:29] <bourbon> i like color hues of ATI card better than nvidia
[15:29] <bjsnider> use the .run with --uninstall
[15:30] <mikebeecham> bjsnider: now you're going way past my experience level :(
[15:30] <yofel> mikebeecham: well.. either download the file on another pc and use an usb drive to copy it or use a terminal browser like lynx
[15:30] <TiK> hi
[15:30] <mikebeecham> well I can do the first thing
[15:30] <blue_anna> if anyone knows how the xinput methods work I am having a keyboard issue
[15:31] <bjsnider> mikebeecham, pardon me, but you used the .run once already, correct? just add --uninstall at the end of it this time
[15:31] <blue_anna> the keyobard mostly doesnt work, is the issue. if I replug it in, it works in xfce, but not in gnome. xev shows the keyboard is physically working, its a software issue.
[15:31] <blue_anna> in gnome, changing the input manager (for example, from None to ibus) makes the keyboard function for a tiny length of time .. but one-two seconds later it will stop working again.
[15:31] <brobostigon> ok, thanks guys and gals. bye.
[15:31] <mikebeecham> bjsnider: hi mate...I dont have the file anymore....can I just type in the command anyway?
[15:32] <blue_anna> I can keep changing the input manager. but that kinda sucks :P
[15:33] <mikebeecham> bjsnider: it just told me that it cant open that file
[15:33] <mikebeecham> I guess because I dont have it
[15:36] <mikebeecham> yofel: I'm downloading them now
[15:36] <yofel> mikebeecham: you'll need the file first, best you use the .run with --uninstall and install the beta driver from the x-update ppa after that
[15:36] <mikebeecham> ok
[15:37] <mikebeecham> how will I access the pen drive?  is there a particular drive label it will assign?
[15:38] <TiK> no you have to set a label with gparter
[15:38] <yofel> no, once you plug it in, run 'dmesg' and it will show as what the drive was added, you'll need the entry with the number like /dev/sdb1, after that run 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt' and you can access the driver from /mnt
[15:39] <blue_anna> or cehck in /media after it mounts
[15:39] <yofel> s/driver/drive/
[15:39] <TiK> one plugged it it will automount an be in /media
[15:39] <yofel> erm, folks, auto-mount only works if you have a desktop environment running...
[15:39] <TiK> i didnt read the question ;)
[15:40] <yofel> TiK: he needs to mount the drive in tty as he can't start X
[15:41] <blue_anna> ok, I get it. plug it in and scan lsusb -v .. kind of a pain in the neck but you might find the /dev device there I guess
[15:41] <blue_anna> then you can mount that with the mount command and a spare directory :P
[15:42] <TiK> usb drive?
[15:42] <blue_anna> yea he said pendrive
[15:43] <TiK> you woud hve to know what it is in /dev
[15:43] <yofel> well, lsusb -v is a bit overkill, as the kernel will print a device add message in the kernel log with the drive name
[15:43] <blue_anna> I guess dmesg would be easier
[15:43] <rye> sudo fdisk -l
[15:43] <TiK> mine is /dev/sdb1
[15:43] <rye> blue_anna, ^ will show what disk devices kernel sees
[15:43] <yofel> right, fdisk would be good too
[15:44] <blue_anna> so mkdir ~/pen && mount /dev/sdb1 ~/pen
[15:44] <yofel> erm, why not just use /mnt ?
[15:44] <TiK> so mount -t fat32 /dev/sdb1 /usb
[15:44] <yofel> that's what the folder is there for after all
[15:44] <TiK> doesn't matter
[15:45] <yofel> well true
[15:45] <TiK> less typing
[15:45] <blue_anna> TiK, looks like a plan :)
[15:51] <mikebeecham> getting there
[15:51] <mikebeecham> still downloaduing drivers
[15:51] <mikebeecham> yofel: will be right with you :)
[15:52] <halvors> I get an apt error i have tryed "dpkg --configure -a" but it does not work: http://pastebin.com/AJn3S0Y9
[15:53] <Pici> halvors: I mentioned to look at the topic for a reason.  ( https://launchpad.net/bugs/648695
[15:57] <mikebeecham> right, I've mounted /dev/sdb1
[15:57] <mikebeecham> how to I get onto that mount?
[15:57] <yofel> mikebeecham: cd /mng
[15:57] <yofel> cd /mnt
[15:57] <mikebeecham> cool
[15:57] <yofel> (if that's where you mounted it)
[15:58] <mikebeecham> right
[15:58] <yofel> for future reference, read this ;)
[15:58] <yofel> !cli
[15:58] <mikebeecham> right
[15:59] <mikebeecham> tried to uninstall...got a lot of errors, but I'm now back to my cursor
[15:59] <mikebeecham> is it worth trying to install the current drivers?
[15:59] <yofel> well, try it, if the .run is properly removed it should work now
[16:00] <mikebeecham> installing now
[16:00] <mikebeecham> if this does not work...is there a way to completely purge all video drviers and reinstall from scratch?
[16:02] <mikebeecham> yay!
[16:02] <mikebeecham> yofel
[16:02] <mikebeecham> you're a star mate
[16:02] <mikebeecham> i'm back onto my desktop
[16:03]  * yofel just had his experince with nvidia .run files some 3 years ago...
[16:03] <yofel> ahh, the memories/nightmares...
[16:03] <mikebeecham> lol
[16:03] <mikebeecham> tell you what...let's not go down thatr oute again
[16:03] <mikebeecham> however, I wonder if I'm going to experience the lag issues now that I'm back onto current drivers?
[16:04] <mikebeecham> which started this whole debarcle off to begin with
[16:04] <yofel> well, possibly, you can install the packaged beta driver from the x-update ppa, just add the ppa and update
[16:04] <yofel> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/
[16:04] <mikebeecham> what is the difference between the packaged beta and the .run?
[16:05] <yofel> the packaged beta doesn't destroy your system :P
[16:05] <mikebeecham> hehe
[16:05] <mikebeecham> fair play
[16:05] <yofel> well, it's installed in a way that makes it not mess with the other system files
[16:06] <mikebeecham> whereas nvidia just runs riot like a fat kid in a cake shop?
[16:06] <bjsnider> nvidia does not even recommend using its own installer. there's a sticky post on their forums where they're telling people to use the distribution installer instead
[16:06]  * gnomefreak went away for ~1 week and i have 290 upgraded apps
[16:07] <gnomefreak> sory 190
[16:07] <bjsnider> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490
[16:08] <mikebeecham> yofel: I cant thank you enough sir
[16:08] <mikebeecham> one beer or two?
[16:09] <yofel> give me one, you take the other one ;)
[16:09] <mikebeecham> we can chink our bottles together, watching the sun go do.....oh no, thats brokeback mountain.  I'll post it to you
[16:10] <mikebeecham> holy schmoley....85 updates to download
[16:11] <gnomefreak> only 85
[16:11] <mikebeecham> today
[16:11] <mikebeecham> updating cache is taking a scary amount of 'waiting' time
[16:11] <gnomefreak> oh
[16:11] <mikebeecham> i need a shower...brb
[16:12] <gnomefreak> e17 still not respun
[16:13]  * gnomefreak not going to have time before release
[16:13] <gnomefreak> :(
[16:13] <notlistening>  Hi just used the 10.10 live daily build or tired and ubiqity hung at the country selection page this been reported?
[16:14] <gnomefreak> not sure you would have to sift through them, if no one knows
[16:14] <gnomefreak> am i here?
[16:16] <gnomefreak> looks like i am
[16:16] <yofel> respun?
[16:17] <charlie-tca> gnomefreak: yes, you are here
[16:18] <notlistening> Amazing this is going out in three days :D
[16:18] <gnomefreak> charlie-tca: thanks
[16:18] <Pici> notlistening: 10.10 doesn't release until the 10th of October.
[16:18] <gnomefreak> yofel: re spin with current depends
[16:19] <gnomefreak> RC is out thursday
[16:20] <gnomefreak> as late as monday but schedule thurs
[16:22] <i_is_broke> anyone else having issues with updating?
[16:22] <i_is_broke> im getting a python error.
[16:22] <i_is_broke> virtkey
[16:22] <Daekdroom> I am.
[16:22] <gnomefreak> not here yet
[16:22] <i_is_broke> ok as long as its just not me..lol
[16:22] <gnomefreak> but i am still updating
[16:22] <yofel> see topic...
[16:22] <Daekdroom> Yes, we know
[16:23] <i_is_broke> lol
[16:23] <i_is_broke> seen
[16:24] <i_is_broke> yofel, well if they know its a issue, do they have a work around for it?
[16:24] <yofel> i_is_broke: there is a workaround on the bug
[16:24] <i_is_broke> tried it, it felled.
[16:24] <i_is_broke> with a big F
[16:24] <yofel> really? let me try
[16:24] <Pici> Why does there need to be a workaround?
[16:24] <i_is_broke> ill try again and see if it works.
[16:25] <i_is_broke> pici, cause it wont let me update.
[16:25] <yofel> wfm
[16:26] <gnomefreak> well im updating but not yet installing updates
[16:27] <i_is_broke> gnomefreak: thats when it broke on me, is the install part.
[16:29] <charlie-tca> It will break
[16:29]  * gnomefreak has no doubt
[16:29] <charlie-tca> Well, at least it will give you a crash
[16:30] <gnomefreak> something always breaks for me ;)
[16:30] <yofel> hm, e17 is a problem, as it doesn't build with current libecore :S
[16:30] <gnomefreak> yofel: yeap i already filed bug
[16:30] <gnomefreak> weeks ago
[16:32] <gnomefreak> yofel: see bug 613271
[16:32] <yofel> hm, would need a FFE now, but since it's in universe and not seeded should be possible
[16:32] <yofel> let's see if the debian package builds fine
[16:32] <gnomefreak> be back smoke
[16:44] <bullgard4>  /etc/mc/filehighlight.ini seems to define and list those file categories that mc displays in different colors. What file determines what color mc actually uses? ~/.mc/filehighlight.ini does not exist.
[16:48] <mikebeecham> yofel: back, and all running great!!
[16:48] <yofel> good to hear :)
[16:50] <mikebeecham> :D
[17:01] <charlie-tca> notlistening: The latest desktop cd for Ubuntu Maverick installs without errors
[18:22] <dylan_> Accidently deleted the Networking Applet from my panel, can't get it back, deleted and reinstalled, and still can't find it to get it on the panel...
[18:22] <dylan_> help?
[18:26] <dylan_> Nevermind.
[19:30] <dylan_> Ok, so on the main panel, the Messages applet disappeared, and now Empathy has it's own applet. And the messages one is nowhere to be found.
[19:31] <dylan_> Anybody know how to bring the messages applet back?
[19:32] <ChogyDan1> !panelreset
[19:32] <dylan_> this won't effect a Cairo Dock will it?
[19:33] <dylan_> Worked. Cairo came right back. thanks.
[19:51] <Acidphase> hey uh, not sure if someone can help me with this but I cant seem to get sound in either UT or UT2004 ,  2.6.35-22-generic #33-Ubuntu
[19:51] <Acidphase> (64bit)
[19:52] <gverig> Running ubuntu 10.10, in tomboy notes, the panel plugin- note titles are invisible (I see note icons and can opten them but can't see the text title). Worked fine on Friday. Any thoughts?
[19:54] <charlie-tca> gverig: bug filed
[19:54] <charlie-tca> bug 627744
[19:56] <gverig> charlie-tca: thanks!! I did look at launchpad... not good enough apparently :)
[19:56] <charlie-tca> no problem
[19:57] <charlie-tca> bugs are hard to find, sometimes.
[20:10] <Israphel> I need to change permission to a file
[20:11] <Israphel> to restore the read permission
[20:11] <Israphel> I removed it 'cause it was a workaround for the ia32-libs recent bugggg
[20:11] <Israphel> bug*
[20:38] <halvors> How fix this bug on my PC?
[20:38] <halvors> https://launchpad.net/bugs/648695
[20:59] <killer999> kubuntu 10.10 installer crashes in virtualbox....is there a cli or any other method to install??
[21:07] <charlie-tca> Try the alternate image?
[21:34] <BUGabundo> evening
[21:43] <GA_Bull> !panelreset
[21:44] <GA_Bull> Well. I reseted my panel, and Network Manager's applet is still missing.........
[21:45] <glebihan> GA_Bull: launch "nm-applet"
[21:46] <GA_Bull> got this response
[21:46] <GA_Bull> An instance of nm-applet is already running.
[21:46] <GA_Bull> ** (nm-applet:2518): WARNING **: <WARN>  constructor(): Couldn't initialize the D-Bus manager.
[21:47] <glebihan> GA_Bull: trying killing the running nm-applet and start it again
[21:49] <GA_Bull> killed it, and brought it back, and got this response
[21:49] <GA_Bull> dylan@Dylan-Ubuntu:~$ nm-applet
[21:49] <GA_Bull> ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area
[21:49] <GA_Bull> ** (nm-applet:2631): DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0
[21:50] <GA_Bull> i'm going to try to kill it a second time. and see if it works.
[21:56] <GA_Bull> ok, back, now i'm going to try to kill it and bring it back....
[21:56] <glebihan> ok
[21:58] <GA_Bull> can't even get it to let me kill it now... still getting the first message...
[21:58] <GA_Bull> dylan@Dylan-Ubuntu:~$ nm-applet
[21:58] <GA_Bull> ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area
[21:58] <GA_Bull> ** (nm-applet:4577): DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0
[21:59] <glebihan> GA_Bull: do you get to launch nm-connection-editor ?
[22:00] <GA_Bull> i can try. one sec.
[22:00] <GA_Bull> yup, it runs just fine.
[22:01] <glebihan> GA_Bull: what you try is first killing nm-applet, then restart network-manager (sudo service network-manager restart) and then restart nm-applet
[22:01] <glebihan> what you *can* try
[22:02] <GA_Bull> ok. i'm still trying to get it to let me kill nm-applet again. it won'd pgrep it now.
[22:03] <glebihan> then it's probably not running
[22:04] <GA_Bull> ok, just tried the process you gave me... and i'm still getting the same message.
[22:06] <GA_Bull> dylan@Dylan-Ubuntu:~$ nm-applet
[22:06] <GA_Bull> ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area
[22:06] <GA_Bull> ** (nm-applet:4806): DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0
[22:09] <GA_Bull> running it as sudo doesn't work either.
[22:10] <glebihan> GA_Bull: I think it's a known bug
[22:10] <glebihan> bug 589362
[22:10] <GA_Bull> ok,
[22:10] <GA_Bull> hadn't checked that. doh.
[22:11] <GA_Bull> well. I can live without it for a while. I can still connect to networks.
[22:18] <GA_Bull> i'm going to try one more panel reset.
[22:18] <GA_Bull> !panelreset
[22:18] <GA_Bull> and now gnome-power-manager crashed.
[22:18] <GA_Bull> ok, it's back.
[22:49] <iConfused> http://demandprogress.org/blacklist/?source=bb < Help stop internet censorship in the US GOGOGO D:
[22:50] <notlistening> I have just installed the latest 10.10 build and updates are broken any clues...?
[22:50] <uvacav> anyone have any issues with wireless running really slow on 10.10 beta rls? Im getting updates at 10kb/sec.
[22:50] <ChogyDan> notlistening: do you get an error?
[22:51] <notlistening> yeah two i will just get the laptop and it is when i run apt-get update
[22:51] <killer999_> i am getting an strange error after today's update : E: python-virtkey: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[22:51] <killer999_> E: onboard: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[22:52] <duffydack> killer999_,  I had that.  I just removed it
[22:52] <killer999_> is this related to virtualbox?
[22:52] <ChogyDan> killer999_: see /topic
[22:52] <duffydack> I dont use onboard so I figured, why not
[22:52] <killer999_> uhm...what should i remove?
[22:53] <duffydack> I removed both onboard and python-virtkey, but thats upto you if you want to.
[22:53] <duffydack> or wait for a fix..
[22:55] <notlistening> ChogyDan, seems like it is unable to talk to some repositories for updates
[22:56] <notlistening> also getting problems with internet traffic
[22:56] <uvacav> killer999 i had the same problem
[22:56] <notlistening> connected directly into the hub of my router
[22:56] <killer999_> so removing is the only solution as of now as this happens with every app I install??
[22:57] <uvacav> notlistening: same problems i am having
[22:57] <ChogyDan> killer999_: just wait a bit, the update is coming soon
[22:57] <uvacav> notlistening: although mine is over wireless
[22:57] <notlistening> uvacav, it is a networking issue or...?
[22:57] <killer999_> uvacav, if you mean today itself, then I can wait
[22:58] <notlistening> uvacav, I also had problems initally running update
[22:58] <uvacav> killer999_ : that was choggydan who said to wait
[22:58] <killer999_> oops
[22:58] <killer999_> ma bad
[22:58] <notlistening> uvacav, seems that it is not my network card then...?
[22:58] <killer999_> ChogyDan,  if you mean today itself, then I can wait
[22:58] <uvacav> notlistening: all i know is i just installed  the beta rls (not daily rls), and my connection is really slow AND i cant update
[22:58] <notlistening> uvacav, went back and installed the beta as the daily build kept hanging
[22:59] <yofel> the python-virtkey bug is fixed, you just have to wait until the fix has made it to all mirrors
[22:59] <ChogyDan> killer999_: I just got it myself.
[22:59] <uvacav> notlistening: same exact thing i did
[22:59] <uvacav> notlistening: my updates are failing with "(-5 - No address associated with hostname)"
[23:00] <notlistening> uvacav what hardware is the wirless card?
[23:00] <killer999_> oh...BTW I have heard 'yofel' name somewhere else...
[23:00] <uvacav> notlistening: atheros, ar9285
[23:01] <yofel> killer999_: I tend to stray around a bit from time to time, so quite possible
[23:01] <notlistening> totally different, have you made any progress, it seems to hit some repositories and not others
[23:01] <killer999_> lol no i mean in some ppa package
[23:01] <killer999_> yofel, you maintain a ppa by any chance?
[23:01] <uvacav> notlistening: nope first thing i did is come here, i'll let u know if i figure something out.. out of curiosity what router are you using
[23:02] <yofel> killer999_: I have a few, see my LP page https://launchpad.net/~yofel
[23:02] <bjsnider> uvacav, there may be a better driver for that card in the backports-wireless package
[23:02] <bjsnider> it's ath9k in any event
[23:03] <uvacav> bjsnider: i'l check that out, thanks
[23:04] <notlistening> Thompson - TG585v7
[23:04] <bjsnider> i'm not sure if the kernel team has that package set up for maverick yet
[23:04] <bjsnider> !info linux-backports-wireless-generic maverick
[23:05] <uvacav> ah
[23:05] <notlistening> just a box supplied by my board band supplier
[23:05] <notlistening> I will go dig deeper
[23:05] <yofel> !info linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic
[23:06] <bjsnider> uvacav, install that and reboot
[23:07] <uvacav> notlistening: its not verizon fios is it? maybe some sort of ipv6 thing i dunno..
[23:07] <uvacav> bjsnider: i will try that, thanks
[23:07] <scummos> hi, is there kde 4.5.1 packages available for ubuntu 10.10?
[23:07] <scummos> or 4.5.x
[23:09] <yofel> scummos: maverick has 4.5.1
[23:11] <scummos> yofel: okay, cool
[23:11] <scummos> thanks
[23:11] <killer999_> yofel, uhm ok...now I know
[23:34] <Ian_corne> LP down?
[23:34] <scummos> anyone knows how to boot 10.10 using unetbootin? i currently get an "no init found" error
[23:35] <duffydack> gnome-terminal vanished.. and I get some error when trying to install it
[23:36] <yofel> Ian_corne: not here
[23:37] <Ian_corne> hrmf
[23:38] <notlistening> My problem with updating seems to be that apt can not resolve ubuntu.com
[23:38] <Ian_corne> I'm really not getting anything through
[23:38] <notlistening> I have tried UK server and Main Server
[23:38] <Ian_corne> Error reading https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~banshee-team/+archive/banshee-unstable: <urlopen error [Errno 110] Connection timed out>
[23:39] <notlistening> and ssh is no longer included on the CD..?
[23:39] <scummos> wtf
[23:39] <Ian_corne> ssh server never was preinstalled
[23:40] <Ian_corne> if that's what you're talking about
[23:40] <notlistening> not pre install but i can not access internet updates but i have forced it to use the sources on CD and no ssh..?
[23:46] <pegasusbill> yellow
[23:47] <pegasusbill> is the release v10.10 oct 1st?
[23:49] <Daekdroom> pegasusbill, October 10th
[23:51] <craig> I just installed the latest AMD64 Kubuntu 10.10 Beta 1: I'm having trouble installing kbluetooth: I just installed aptitude but it claims the package kbluetooth doesn't even exist.  Do I need to enable an extra Repo to get Kbluetooth?  Or how exactly do I get Kbluetooth installed...?
[23:53] <notlistening> Fixed the updating proglem ;)
[23:53] <notlistening> shame he has gone :P
[23:54] <notlistening> Have there been any other reports of the update issue..?
[23:54] <yofel> notlistening: you mean python-virtkey? that's fixed
[23:55] <notlistening> no apt not being able to resiolve ubuntu.com
[23:55] <yofel> that sounds like a DNS issue to me
[23:56] <notlistening> yeah i think it is but not with my DNS as all my other machines run normally
[23:56] <notlistening> ping works find
[23:56] <notlistening> but apt doesn't
[23:56] <yofel> craig: kbluetooth is deprecated, maverick uses bluedevil
[23:56] <notlistening> added ubuntu.com to /etc/hosts and hey presto it worked
[23:56] <yofel> that's odd..
[23:56] <notlistening> very


[08:27] <frankban> morning gmb, please call me if you need a code review, a film review, and in general a review of anything reviewable
[08:27] <gmb> frankban, Duly noted :). I should have something for you before the morning is out, actually.
[08:27] <frankban> cool
[08:33] <frankban> ah gmb, if you have time: https://code.launchpad.net/~frankban/lpsetup/branch-subcommand/+merge/105857
[08:34] <gmb> frankban, Sure, I'll look shortly.
[08:34] <frankban> thank you gmb
[09:17] <gmb> frankban, https://code.launchpad.net/~gmb/launchpad/bug-999554/+merge/105944 needs a review when you've got a second.
[09:18] <frankban> sure gmb
[09:47] <gmb> frankban, Your lpsetup branch looks good.
[09:54] <frankban> gmb: cool, your branch looks good too, i have just a comment, probably the LoC fever will hit us in the future
[10:03] <gmb> frankban, Oh, crumbs. Good catch :)
[10:04] <gmb> Fixed & pushed.
[10:21] <frankban> thanks gmb
[11:53] <bac> morning frankban -- how goes the reviewing?
[12:06] <frankban> hi bac: it's going well
[12:06] <bac> i hope it is as glamorous as you anticipated!  :)
[12:09] <gary_poster> bac benji frankban gmb call in 2 (11 after the hour)
[12:10] <gmb> Yarp.
[12:13] <gary_poster> benji gmb yoo hoo
[12:13] <gmb> gary_poster, I keep getting redirected to plus.google.com when I try to join. Can you invite Canonical-me please?
[12:14] <gary_poster> gmb, I just sent to<EMAIL_ADDRESS> It doesn't auto complete :-/
[12:26] <gary_poster> https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1NCbUDCxjnsXbz9AeW0HAmmMdOM7g3eEhhCxyE3_3fRM/edit
[12:31]  * gmb -> lunch
[12:39]  * benji reboots.
[12:46] <benji> gary_poster: The only thing I can think to add to the two-week summary would be to harden (or plan to discuss hardening) what exactly we mean by 95% success rate.  The two week metric is pretty good but probably too big.  You also mention using the last three days, which seems good.
[12:47] <benji> A particular number of runs might be a good idea too.
[12:47] <gary_poster> benji, good point, thank you.  I'll incorporate that
[12:54] <frankban> gary_poster: in "goals for next meeting" the switch to lpsetup is still present
[12:55] <gary_poster> frankban, right, I think I mentioned on call that "Progress on tracked items" and "Goals for next meeting" are not yet updated.  I'll be sure to update those.  Thank you.
[12:56] <frankban> oh... right
[13:02] <benji> now I can't reproduce the sound problem.  I'm going to consider it fixed until it isn't.
[13:02] <gary_poster> :-)
[13:03] <gary_poster> gmb, I'm approving things in canonicaladmin.  already approved bank/swap days.  looking at expenses.  Why don't you need per diems for April 30 & May 1--ah right, because they were vacation days because of flight scheduling snafu, right?
[13:04] <benji> gary_poster: re. stub and 992184; I'm inclined to set up a buildbot setup in EC2 and verify that I can reproduce the problem there and then give him instructions on how to do the same.  How does that sound?
[13:06] <gary_poster> benji, sounds good, if you think that can be super cheap to do.  Other alternatives include letting him look at data center, which had one instance in the past 8, but does not give him sudo access to much of anything; or to just tell him how to set up our buildbot juju thing, which would be cheaper in developer time probably if more expensive in ec2
[13:07] <gary_poster> gmb, similar question about May 6, 7, 11
[13:07] <gary_poster> no per diem
[13:07] <benji> gary_poster: I was going to do the latter after verifying that I could reproduce the problem there, but I guess since we've seen the problem there, then we can assume it is reproducable
[13:08] <gary_poster> gmb, that's Sunday, Monday, Friday?
[13:09] <gary_poster> benji, "I guess since we've seen the problem there, then we can assume it is reproducable" there = data center?
[13:09] <benji> gary_poster: no, EC2 using our Buildbot charms
[13:10] <gary_poster> oh cool.  except that I'm confused by your sentence then.  Rereading...
[13:10] <gary_poster> oic
[13:10] <benji> I don't think I communicated my plan very well.  Let me try again.  I was going to do a builbot deployment using juju, then log in there and reproduce the problem.  Once I can do that I would tell stub how to do the same.
[13:10] <gary_poster> yes, I think we can assume it is reproducable
[13:11] <gary_poster> +1 benji.  The only trick may be that we are relying on our own yellow versions of the charms
[13:11] <benji> in that case I'll skip to telling stub how to build an environment with juju
[13:11] <gary_poster> benji, I've been using runparallel every day for awhile, from Brad.  I will send
[13:12] <benji> cool, anything that makes it easier for him would be good
[13:13] <gary_poster> benji, I sent to you with cryptic notes. :-) lemme know if not clear
[13:13] <benji> heh, ok
[13:13] <gmb> gary_poster, 6, 7, 11 had food provided.
[13:13] <gmb> (Or were paid on a company card)
[13:13] <gary_poster> gmb, wow swanky :-) ok cool
[13:14] <gary_poster> gmb approved. thanks for diligence.
[13:15] <gmb> gary_poster, No worries. I kept track as I went; given that the per diem was very generous (compared to London's, say) I didn't want to over-claim.
[13:15] <gary_poster> fun fact: I'm trying out our parallel tests on a cool
[13:15] <gary_poster> cool
[13:16] <gary_poster> that was an aborted message at the beginning there :-P
[13:16] <gmb> heh
[13:17] <gary_poster> fun fact: I'm preparing to try out our parallel tests on a cc2.8xlarge (very fast 16 core).  Will report back. :-)
[13:34] <benji> gary_poster: as I write this out, it seems like a lot to ask; maybe we should just build a slave and hand it off to him
[14:01] <gary_poster> maybe fun to follow along: http://ec2-23-22-101-96.compute-1.amazonaws.com:8010/waterfall
[14:28] <gary_poster> ec2 with 32 cores: that was anticlimactic. trying again with the timeout for ssh/dhcp increased to 60...
[14:45] <frankban> gary_poster: amazing! if you want to try the lxc-start-ephemeral/lp-lxc-ip combo, you can find it here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/990779/
[14:46] <gary_poster> awesome thanks frankban, will do
[14:47] <gary_poster> I'm going to increase the timeout to 120 locally first; only 10 of the 32 started up properly this time within 60 seconds. concerning
[14:47] <gary_poster> then will try that other version
[15:00] <gary_poster> heh, if that had actually worked, the timing would be pretty freaking awesome:  23 minutes, 12 seconds.
[15:14] <gary_poster> First run only had 10 successful slaves
[15:14] <gary_poster> second had 7!
[15:14] <gary_poster> first had timeout of 60 seconds
[15:14] <gary_poster> second 120
[15:15] <gary_poster> Now trying with new version of lxc-start-ephemeral
[15:22] <gary_poster> frankban, new version of lxc-start-ephemeral got us up to 16 of 32 instances.  The other 16 could not get IP addresses.  I suspect there's some kind of provisioning limit we're hitting...
[15:23] <gary_poster> benji, do you know of a reason why 16 of 32 lxc container instances would not get IPs within 60 seconds?
[15:23] <gary_poster> or something to check?
[15:23] <gary_poster> other than serge? ;-)
[15:23] <frankban> you could try again using the new version and TRIES=120
[15:25] <gary_poster> frankban, yeah, I'll try that next--or maybe even 240, 'cause what the heck--though upping the old version seemed to show that you could give it 120 seconds and it would still not come up.
[15:27] <gary_poster> wow it's fast.  If we could get this working that would be incredible
[15:30] <bac> hi frankban, i just tried using 'lp-setup branch' and it worked fine.
[15:31] <frankban> cool bac!
[15:31] <bac> frankban: but i did notice you've chosen different defaults from rocketfuel-setup for branches and dependencies
[15:31] <bac> even though they can be overridden, i think that may be an irritant for people with existing setups
[15:38] <bac> gary_poster: re: the subvertpy clean up card...is it as simple as this http://paste.ubuntu.com/990857/ ?
[15:41] <benji> gary_poster: (your last message got eaten by the beep monster) no; my first guess would be to see how many DHCP addresses are available, 16 sounds like a nice round number
[15:42] <gary_poster> bac, I think so
[15:42] <bac> ok, great.  not looking for complication but didn't want to miss something
[15:43] <gary_poster> benji, how would I determine this?
[15:43] <frankban> yes bac, I thought about this, I am undecided: I agree with you but maybe, from the perspective of someone who want to just try "lp-setup lxc-install", having different paths could be safer
[15:44] <benji> gary_poster: no idea; first I'd figure out what allocates the dhcp addresses and then look at it's configuration options (I now realize that that might have been more pendantic than you were looking for) ;)
[15:44] <gary_poster> heh
[15:45] <gary_poster> ack benji thanks.  will check in with serge with that as an opening volley when I get back from lunch
[15:46] <bac> gary_poster: can i use r=gary for both of those?  i don't plan to do a MP
[15:46] <frankban> gary_poster:  ps aux | grep lxc-dnsmasq
[15:46] <gary_poster> bac: +1
[15:46] <bac> thx
[15:46] <gary_poster> frankban, ok
[15:47] <gary_poster> frankban, benji, "--dhcp-range <IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>" doesn't look like that should be a problem :-)
[15:47] <frankban> gary_poster: if I read that well, it doesn't seem to be a leases problem
[15:47] <frankban> ah...
[15:48] <frankban> right, --dhcp-lease-max=253 too
[15:48] <gary_poster> also --dhcp-lease-max=253
[15:48] <frankban> heh
[15:48] <gary_poster> :-)
[15:48] <gary_poster> frankban, running to lunch. build 4 of http://ec2-23-22-101-96.compute-1.amazonaws.com:8010/waterfall has new lxc start ephemeral with 240 tries
[15:49] <gary_poster> biab
[15:53]  * benji reboots to try to fix sound problem.
[16:11] <benji> I found out one thing.  As long as I keep the sond settings app open, beeps remain audible.
[16:16] <frankban> gary_poster: 32 workers correctly started and a subunit assertion failure spoiled our joy...
[16:31] <benji> it finally happened: bug 1000000
[16:31] <_mup_> Bug #1000000: For every bug on Launchpad, 67 iPads are sold. <Edubuntu:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1000000 >
[16:39]  * benji reboots
[17:13] <gary_poster> :-/
[17:18] <gary_poster> Wow, it took 2.5 minutes to get all instances up
[17:20] <bac> benji: i wonder how long stephane waited to snag that one?  he is the new mpt
[17:20] <gary_poster> lame bug if you ask me :-P
[17:21] <gary_poster> way to fix bug: release software with more bugs!
[17:21] <benji> they used the 1M numer reasonably well, but it could have been bigger/funnier
[17:22] <gary_poster> manually killing 32 lxc instances is annoying
[17:23] <bac> yay, western digital replaced my dead 9 month old drive with a new one of a different design.  dead 'elements' morphed into a WD Studio.  hoping for better longevity.
[17:23] <gary_poster> cool
[17:28] <gary_poster> frankban, would be nice to have TRIES be configurable with commandline args
[17:29] <gary_poster> trying again
[17:30] <gary_poster> the subunit assertion is another variation of bug 996729
[17:30] <_mup_> Bug #996729: zope.testing --subunit allows bad output on stdout, which can break subunit processing <paralleltest> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/996729 >
[19:18] <bac> gary_poster: heads up, i'd like to start early so i can leave early tomorrow afternoon.  we're going to the beach tomorrow night.  will be working from there on friday.
[19:19] <gary_poster> bac, fun.  Sounds good.
[19:20] <bac> some academic friends of ours rent a place every year and invite us down for the weekend to fix their phones, computers, and now tablets.  that's not how they would characterize it but is how it happens.  :)
[19:20] <gary_poster> lol
[19:21] <gary_poster> well, I hope the payoff is worth it :-)
[19:21] <bac> nice beach front house, good food and beverages
[19:21] <gary_poster> sounds nice
[19:22] <bac> i made no headway with bug 992814 so now i'm working on the .testrepository cleanup
[19:22] <_mup_> Bug #992814: lib/lp/services/webservice/doc/launchpadlib.txt fails intermittently/rarely in parallel tests <paralleltest> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/992814 >
[19:22] <gary_poster> ok
[19:22] <gary_poster> I hope the ones we have left are not too unpleasant :-(
[19:37] <benji> gary_poster: I need to go AFK for a while, have a bad headache.
[19:38] <gary_poster> benji :-( ok feel better
[19:38] <benji> thanks
[20:39] <bac> gary_poster: i've rewritten lpbuildbot/scripts/init_testr.sh to be a python script so i could more easily find and delete the old testr files.  so far so good.
[20:39] <bac> since it is run as a 'step', can i get access to the logging mechanism?
[20:40] <gary_poster> bac, the buildbot logging stuff?  If so, no, I don't think so...
[20:41] <bac> gary_poster: yeah, for putting up error messages should something go wrong into the waterfall
[20:41] <gary_poster> oh
[20:41] <bac> i thought that might be asking too much
[20:41] <gary_poster> well
[20:41] <gary_poster> if you dump things to stdout it will be available in the stdout link
[20:41] <gary_poster> from the waterfall
[20:41] <gary_poster> isn't that good for what you need?
[20:43] <bac> yeah, that'll work
[20:44]  * bac was overcomplicating things
[20:49] <gary_poster> cool, glad will work.
[20:49]  * gary_poster is ready for a break.
[20:49]  * gary_poster is going to go get some water
[21:09]  * gary_poster is going
[21:10] <gary_poster> bye