[13:46] <acicula> Grav: the boot process starts daemons as root unless you specify otherwise
[13:47] <Grav> ActionParsnip:  Ok i added there. Thanks
[13:47] <jblz> Wise_, if you use it, make sure you use the "image" based option (you'll know what i'm talking about if you boot it)
[13:47] <jblz> okay, could some kind lucid user run: "python -c 'import sys; print "\n".join(sys.path)'" from the terminal, and post the output to a pastebin?
[13:48] <wn1zid> I have 2 say, ubuntu has done it again, this is my tiny eeepc with a full blown 10.10 with compiz, Thanks Ubuntu Great job. http://imagebin.org/142859
[13:48] <Wise_> jblz; ah sounds good, so it'll let me access the fat/ntfs partitions on my win computer without problem then I guess?
[13:48] <acicula> fairuz: C doesnt do function overloading because it doesnt do inheritence
[13:48] <jblz> yes
[13:48] <jblz> Wise_, you chose a partition to store to, then the target partition to back up
[13:48] <fairuz> acicula: so there is no way then. =)
[13:49] <jblz> Wise_, it can store/copy just about any filesystem imaginable
[13:49] <ruan> is it possible to connect to my computer with my phone(nokia smartphone) and access a console?
[13:49] <wn1zid> ok, have a great day folks. time to go 2 work.
[13:49] <jblz> ruan- you need to run a ssh server on the box you want to connect to
[13:50] <Wise_> jblz; so disk images are made per-partition? you can't sort of get an image of an entire hdd with all different partitions et.c.?
[13:50] <llutz> ruan: use a ssh-client on the phone
[13:50] <jblz> ruan, assuming you have a ssh terminal on the phone
[13:50] <ruan> hmm
[13:50] <ruan> where can i get a ssh terminal for my phone then?
[13:50] <jblz> Wise_, you can choose either
[13:50] <llutz> ruan: http://www.xk72.com/midpssh/
[13:50] <robert72adam> hi
[13:50] <jblz> Wise_, full disk or particular partitions
[13:51] <ruan> hehe ok
[13:51] <ruan> looks like it'll work
[13:51] <llutz> ruan: works for me
[13:52] <antonio_> Hi
[13:52] <ruan> first i need to get that phone's internet working :/
[13:52] <jblz> i really don't want to install lucid just to get the sys.path... i've been helpful to others... could someone run: "python -c 'import sys; print "\n".join(sys.path)'" from the terminal, and post the output to a pastebin?
[13:53] <jblz> hmm, maybe i can find an old cd somewhere
[13:53] <vidva> hi, I've problems with grub, I would like to install lilo as an alternative, but it has problems with the uuid in fstab. is lilo safe to use and easy to set up?
[13:53] <antonio_> on my 64 bit 10.10 I have a really slow connection to some hosts caused by tcp window scale(which does not scale at all). My coworker does not experience the same issue running ubuntu 10.10 32bit
[13:54] <antonio_> Do anybody noticed the same behaviour?
[13:54] <ruan> jblz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/580576/
[13:54] <ruan> jblz: is my output
[13:55] <ruan> jblz: im not on lucid though
[13:56] <Johnny> johnny
[13:56] <acicula> vidva: eh no its not
[13:57] <acicula> antonio_: does the connection actually slow to a crawl?
[13:57] <bullgard> '~$ pgrep gnome-keyring-daemon' does not produce any output. Why does the output of '~$ pgrep gnome' and '~$ pgrep keyring' include the proper PID but '~$ pgrep daemon' not?
[13:57] <jblz> ruan, thank you.  i'll see if i can use that
[13:57] <acicula> antonio_: or even stop completely?
[13:57] <codebeaker> hey, I wondered if there was any known reason that there's no documentation for getting solr running from the packages from apt
[13:57] <codebeaker> … every single bit of documentation online talks about building from source
[13:58] <antonio_> acicula: just slowing down, using a very small window
[13:58] <acicula> antonio_: sysctl -w "net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling=0 turns it off
[13:58] <jblz> rats, i can tell that's not the same as lucid
[13:58] <ruan> how do i start the openssh-server? running it in terminal returns unknown command
[13:58] <antonio_> acicula: yes disabling window scaling solves
[13:58] <ubuntuer> hello
[13:58] <antonio_> acicula: but why is working fine
[13:58] <antonio_> acicula: on a 32 bit version
[13:58] <antonio_> ??
[13:59] <jblz> ruan, https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html
[13:59] <acicula> antonio_: dont know
[13:59] <ruan> 6.06? lol
[13:59] <ruan> ok i'll try it
[14:00] <milamber> ruan: sudo service ssh start
[14:00] <jblz> the sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart shoudl be the same
[14:00] <jblz> i'll shut up now
[14:01] <ruan> do i _have_ to configure it?
[14:01] <antonio_> acicula: from 64bit network dump I see a too high value for tcp window size, maybe a bug? I can reproduce the issue
[14:01] <acicula> codebeaker: maybe because it sees little use, or because configuration is similar wether you install from source or apt?
[14:03] <codebeaker> acicula: regardless, it's difficult to get started for someone who never did it befoer… none of the ubuntu paths patch anything like the source installs
[14:03] <acicula> codebeaker: yeah packaging ussually breaks up the package in /etc /var and /usr sections
[14:03] <ruan> ok it works.. sshed to myself
[14:03] <codebeaker> acicula: roger that - but I'm missing a big piece of how to tell jetty about solr… which is odd, since I installed solr-jetty
[14:04] <acicula> codebeaker: not all software that is packaged comes with extensive documentation, if you use a niche application theres a lot of researching involved
[14:04] <codebeaker> sure…
[14:04] <ubuntuer> Anyone having problems with flash in Firefox?
[14:04] <codebeaker> thanks anyway, back to the man pages
[14:04] <ruan> ubuntuer: flash works for me
[14:05] <ubuntuer> ruan: it works for me too but badly
[14:05] <acicula> antonio_: its a known issue with routers according to google
[14:05] <ruan> ubuntuer: have you tried reinstalling it?
[14:05] <ubuntuer> yes
[14:06] <ubuntuer> ruan: it's consuming a lot of CPU
[14:06] <jatt> damn ati proprietary driver sucks!
[14:06] <ubuntuer> in Google chrome works just fine
[14:06] <raven> gpodder what is this? http://picpaste.com/9e4769c8566bdabb50d2c18d5f7f46aa.png
[14:06] <ruan> ubuntuer: looks like a firefox plugin issue
[14:06] <Shmopsan> i have ati card and it works great so far
[14:07] <ubuntuer> it depends of the ati model
[14:07] <mamat> hi, what program is dealing with autodetecting/mounting filesystems by default? fuse? i'm trying to have "documents" partition be automounted using fstab but it's conflicting with the automount thing
[14:07] <gfs> how to change the login window on ubuntu 10.10?I tried 'system'-->'administration'-->'login screen'...But could not change.
[14:07] <Shmopsan> mamat i think its HAL
[14:08] <ubuntuer> gfs: the editing of login window is very limited in latest ubuntu releases.. you can change the wallpaper and window theme and coloer
[14:08] <ubuntuer> color
[14:08] <v_v> !hal
[14:08] <acicula> jatt: are you using the one installed via hardware drivers?
[14:08] <v_v> !automount
[14:09] <gfs> i'll try it . thank
[14:09] <jatt> nope I downloaded it from the ati/amd site (ati-driver-installer-10-4-x86.x86_64.run)
[14:09] <ce_cr_om2> h
[14:09] <jatt> here the radeon driver is much smoother and faster
[14:09] <ubuntuer> ruan: I am going to try Flash-Aid plugin
[14:09] <erez> hello, I'm still completely at a loss wrt the delete key issue
[14:09] <jatt> I guess open source beats closed source again
[14:09] <wathek> hi all
[14:09] <jatt> years ago the proprietary drivers (at least for nvidia) were much better than the open source ones
[14:10] <erez> (accidentally bind the delete key to a different shortcut, when I disabled the shortcut, the delete key still doesn't work, no idea how to bind it to delete)
[14:10] <Shmopsan> even at 3d?
[14:10] <acicula> jatt: well the binary drivers bench much higher then the open source versions
[14:10] <antonio_> acicula: already googled, I have no router, I experience the same problem when connecting from different network
[14:10] <acicula> jatt: if you are having stability problems try the packaged binary ati drivers?
[14:10] <acicula> antonio_: are you connecting to the same host every time?
[14:10] <antonio_> yes
[14:10] <mamat> is it possible to tell hal to automount /media/documents/user when user is logged in?
[14:11] <antonio_> acicula: yes...
[14:11] <acicula> antonio_: try connecting to a node on another network
[14:11] <jatt> acicula: you mean the ones in the repositories?
[14:11] <acicula> jatt: correct
[14:11] <antonio_>  acicula: works fine
[14:11] <jatt> acicula: in the ubuntu repositories
[14:11] <jatt> ok will give it a try
[14:11] <v_v> !gvfs
[14:11] <acicula> jatt: yes, just using the .run files from the ati site may give you problems, even if you install properly by making deb files from the .run files
[14:12] <antonio_> acicula: no problems connecting to other hosts or connecting to that same host using a 32bit version
[14:12] <jatt> yes, those run files are a nightmare, it was a nightmare to uninstall too
[14:12] <jatt> I was lucky and could get my xorg back :)
[14:12] <acicula> jatt: the .run has a cool toggle that lets you make deb files straight from the .run file
[14:13] <beer_brouwer> can anyone tell me how to establish a NTML connection to an exchange server in order to get calendar entries with SOAP and PHP?
[14:13] <n2i> Hello!
[14:13] <timmybobcat14> I seem to have a mounting problem that stops me opening ubuntu-when I reach the splash screen I get this message:"The disk drive for /home is not ready yet or not present.
[14:13] <timmybobcat14> Continue to wait; or press S to skip or M for manual recovery"
[14:13] <raven> gpodder what is this? http://picpaste.com/9e4769c8566bdabb50d2c18d5f7f46aa.png
[14:14] <acicula> antonio_: means it can also be caused by a router that is closer to the computer you are connecting to
[14:14] <timmybobcat14> If I press S I can log in but then I get these error messages:"Could not update ICE Authority file /home/myname/.ICEauthority"
[14:14] <timmybobcat14> There is a problem with the configuration service (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfpsanity-check-2 exited with status 256)
[14:14] <Pumpkin-> window scaling generally only happens at the end hosts, unless some device, usually a "security" device, in the way decides to mess with things.
[14:14] <n2i> When I startx and get an error about xkbcomp. This is pic show error messenger http://www.imagesk.com/?i=S46QVT7G.png
[14:15] <Pumpkin-> antonio_: this isn't strange window scaling behaviour with google by any chance is it ?
[14:15] <antonio_>  acicula: why using a 32 bit client should make the problem disapear?
[14:15] <n2i> what is xkbcomp, and what is that error?
[14:15] <acicula> antonio_: dunno
[14:16] <acicula> timmybobcat14: did you change your login password?
[14:17] <n2i> anyone can help me? Please!
[14:17] <timmybobcat14> ackcj.a
[14:17] <timmybobcat14> ack
[14:17] <Odigem> ku
[14:17] <timmybobcat14> acicula-I don't think so-would n't know how to
[14:17] <Odigem> ку
[14:17] <Odigem> превед
[14:18] <antonio_> acicula: changing client solve the problem, switch off scaling solve the problem. this make me believe is a client side issue, not on router
[14:18] <bullgard> '~$ pgrep gnome-keyring-daemon' does not produce any output. Why does the output of '~$ pgrep gnome' and '~$ pgrep keyring' include the proper PID but '~$ pgrep daemon' not?
[14:19] <timmybobcat14> acicula - I'm guessing that when I manually installed the program I didn't partition it properly or something. But it looks like a a minor problem to solve -to me????????????????????????
[14:20] <timmybobcat14> acicula - just changing the instructions in the boot up file or something???????????????????????????
[14:20] <antonio_> Pumpkin-: yes I initially suspected that the issue was caused by a security device on the network manipulating the packet but why does not affect 32 bit clients?
[14:20] <j0X3r> n2i as it says that the error is not fatal to X you can ignore it
[14:21] <bullgard> timmybobcat14: 20 question marks in a row are 19 too much.
[14:21] <timmybobcat14> bullgard-I see ok only 2 max in future then ha ha ha
[14:21] <sami> hi
[14:22] <bullgard> Ty
[14:22] <timmybobcat14> I seem to have a mounting problem that stops me opening ubuntu-when I reach the splash screen I get this message:"The disk drive for /home is not ready yet or not present.
[14:22] <bxl4074> Hi, I am new
[14:22] <keyzs> ActionParsnip: when i do a lshw - C nothing show up, is it because im in a vm?
[14:23] <timmybobcat14> Continue to wait; or press S to skip or M for manual recovery"
[14:23] <Guest96417> maybe
[14:23] <bullgard> timmybobcat14: Analyze your /etc/fstab
[14:24] <timmybobcat14> bullgard - ok analyze for what? I am in failsafe mode atm can I analyse it form here ? What should I be looking for?
[14:24] <silvery> => Grub 2 is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks on the same drive in partition #1 for (,msdos1)/grub.
[14:24] <nsahoo> hi all
[14:25] <snookerboy> ;-)
[14:25] <bullgard> timmybobcat14: I do not know "failsafe mode". --  You should look for the mounting options in /etc/fstab and if they suit you.
[14:25] <bullgard> timmybobcat14: I do not know "failsafe mode". --  You should look for the mounting options in /etc/fstab and check if they suit you.
[14:26] <secretary_linux> so earlier I couldn't chroot into my root fs because I was on a 32 bit install image. I switched to the proper 64 bit but now I'm getting a message that /bin/sh cannot be found. yet, there is a /bin/sh in the install environment and a /target/bin/sh -- i'm trying the command "chroot /target /bin/sh" -- what am i doing wrong?
[14:26] <timmybobcat14> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[14:26] <timmybobcat14> #
[14:26] <timmybobcat14> # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
[14:26] <timmybobcat14> # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
[14:26] <timmybobcat14> # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[14:26] <FloodBot2> timmybobcat14: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:26] <timmybobcat14> #
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> !chroot | secretary_linux
[14:26] <nsahoo> one of the ubuntu installations lost network connection over the weekend. It is connected by ethernet to the lan, but, can't ping to any place even if I provide the direct IP
[14:27] <elFidel> nsahoo: start with ipconfig
[14:27] <secretary_linux> ActionParsnip: thanks, though it seems the ubuntu install image has already mounted proc, sys, dev etc. the guide you sent seems more inclined toward users with working installations already...
[14:27] <rlankfo> /sdlkfjsdlkfjsdfklj/win 36
[14:28] <compdoc> nics sometimes die
[14:28] <timmybobcat14> bullguard - I mean I am in recovery mode screen at the moment
[14:28] <Curly_Q> Nsahoo, first open up a command prompt and type in:    ping <IP_ADDRESS>         or      ping localhost
[14:29] <nsahoo> elFidel: you mean ifconfig? the line for inet addr is missing for eth0
[14:29] <timmybobcat14> bullgard  have opened the stab file but I don't know what I should be looking for?
[14:29] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: localhost ping succeeds
[14:29] <Curly_Q> Also type in    ifconfig -a
[14:29] <bullgard> timmybobcat14: I do not know "failsafe mode". --  You should look for the mounting options in /etc/fstab and if they suit you.
[14:29] <elFidel> nsahoo: any hw-changes in the past? maybe its just a udev issue
[14:30] <nsahoo> elFidel: no, I was away for 4 days. I could connect remotely for a day after that it went down
[14:30] <Curly_Q> Nsahoo, pinging localhost means that your NIC card is working.
[14:30] <Curly_Q> Next check the RJ45 cables.
[14:30] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: /etc/resolv.conf is empty
[14:30] <Curly_Q> Push in all the cables.
[14:31] <elFidel> nsahoo: consider checking /etc/udev/rules.d/x....persistant-net.rules just to make sure
[14:31] <timmybobcat14> ok next problem: can anyone help me decipher the /etc/fstab file?
[14:31] <C3D> noob in need of help. im trying to  change how much swap is used , i use this "sudo sysctl -a|grep swappiness" and get errors of "error: "Invalid argument" reading key "fs.binfmt_misc.register"
[14:31] <C3D> vm.swappiness = 0
[14:31] <C3D> error: permission denied on key 'net.ipv4.route.flush'
[14:31] <C3D> error: permission denied on key 'net.ipv6.route.flush'
[14:31] <C3D> " can someone tell me what this means and how to fix it
[14:31] <FloodBot2> C3D: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:31] <Curly_Q> Nsahoo, you need to backtrack what you did to get to this situation if you changed any configurations then. I was thinking from a Hardware Layer 1 viewpoint.
[14:31] <mha> how do I disable ubuntu's default behavior to disallow me to tab filenames to any command given? for instance, ls /et<tab> completes /etc/, sysctl -p /et<tab> does not.
[14:31] <mha> very annoying behavior.
[14:32] <mha> I removed bash-completion
[14:32] <kikz> hello channel. hows every1 doing today ?
[14:32] <Curly_Q> Good Kikz, what's up?
[14:32] <Dr_Willis_TCL> mha,  the bash completion stuff has  entries for specific commands.. ive never noticed that behaivor.
[14:32] <timmybobcat14> If I paste my /etc/fstab file onto the http paste ubuntu com site can anyone help me see where my log in boot in problem is?
[14:33] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: I was away. I could connect for one day and it was gone after that. I didn't change anything. No one has access to this machine
[14:33] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: try typing sysctl -p /et<tab>
[14:33] <Curly_Q> Greets to Dr Willis.  :)
[14:33] <kikz> not too bad curly.. whats every1 talkign about
[14:33] <llutz> Curly_Q: how would you see a working nic with "ping localhost"? lo(opback device is part of the ip-stack and has nothing to do with a physical NIC)
[14:33] <Dr_Willis_TCL> mha,  im not on ubuntu right now.
[14:33] <elFidel> nsahoo: is that a dualboot box?
[14:33] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: aha. it'll just stand there and look stupid. :]
[14:33] <Dr_Willis_TCL> mha,  given how good the bash completion is in ubuntu. File a bug report. they may fix that.
[14:33] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: anyhow. noticed that it was some /etc/bash_completion* stuff left behind. A kind rm -rf fixed the problem.
[14:33] <Curly_Q> Nsahoo, where are you from? It maybe because of the Japan Earthquake. Lots of networks are down right now.
[14:33] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: I rather just get rid of the problem. :)
[14:34] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: no. I am in Pennsylvania.
[14:34] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: in a university
[14:34] <Curly_Q> LLutz, if you can ping the localhost the NIC card is working.
[14:34] <Curly_Q> It is the first step in troubleshooting.
[14:34] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: I actually hate it. if I have a mounted partition on /mnt/something, and only /mnt/else is in /etc/fstab, the tab completion will autocomplete /mnt/something on umount /mn<tab>
[14:34] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: other machines are working.
[14:34] <Dr_Willis_TCL> mha,  thers proberly some key combo for bash that makes it do what you wanted. Ive not read the bash completion guides/docs in a long time. but i recall there being ways to do that.
[14:34] <llutz> Curly_Q: ping localhost even works without any nic
[14:35] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: sorry. /mnt/else will be completed course.
[14:35] <Curly_Q> Nsahoo, go to the literal machine and see if it is turned on or unplugged.
[14:35] <Dr_Willis_TCL> mha,  cant say ive ever noticed  the issue.
[14:35] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: try it too...
[14:35] <mha> :D
[14:35] <Dr_Willis_TCL> file another bug.
[14:35] <mha> rm -R problem.
[14:35] <mha> :)
[14:35] <bullgard> timmybobcat14: Read 'man mount'.
[14:35] <kikz> does any 1 knows if theres a local channel for chicago ?
[14:35] <Dr_Willis_TCL> and as i said. theres probelry some combo-tab that makes it go the  other way.
[14:35] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: I am in front of the machine. checking different configurations now. Perhaps I should put the live CD in and see if that works
[14:36] <Curly_Q> llutz, that was the first step I mentioned and the second was ifconfig -a   to see if the NIC address was available.
[14:36] <Dr_Willis_TCL> I dont even have a browser handy to lookup 'bash completion guide' :)
[14:36] <C3D> sometimes this place is just way too busy
[14:36] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: hehe
[14:36] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: where would be the log files if there are any
[14:36] <Dr_Willis_TCL> zBBL off to the store.
[14:37] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Using tiny core linux to copy some files from one usb to another.. Ive noticed SLOW usb speeds on this one hard drive.. but an identical hd was faster..  in tiny core linux.. it was slow.. but now its sped up.. not sure whats going on with this thing.. :)
[14:37] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: I got tired of bug filing for stuff that's apparently not adequately tested. which does not consider needs. if I can just work around it. and especially if I see no other benefit of the "feature"
[14:37] <Curly_Q> Nsahoo is the computer you are referring to the one you are on right now?
[14:37] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: I am sure that plenty however find it awesome :)
[14:37] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: not chatting from it, but, it is infront of me now
[14:37] <ruan> if i ssh to <IP_ADDRESS> it connects, but if i ssh to my real IP address it says connection refused, why?
[14:37] <Curly_Q> OK.
[14:38] <Curly_Q> Can you ping   www.cnn.com  ?   What do you get?
[14:38] <ruan> i've tried my hostname IP and my IP from whatsmyip.org
[14:38] <llutz> ruan: netstat -tulpen|grep 22
[14:38] <ruan> what should i look for, llutz ?
[14:39] <llutz> ruan: something like  ".... 0 <IP_ADDRESS>:22...."
[14:39] <Curly_Q> Instead ping anthony.freenode.net
[14:39] <ruan> i see that
[14:39] <bullgard> kikz: /join #ubuntu-us-oh
[14:39] <ruan> i'll pastebin it
[14:39] <llutz> ruan: ah you try to ssh <ip> from the local machine? needs nat-loopback being enabled
[14:40] <timmybobcat14> I seem to have a mounting problem that stops me opening ubuntu-when I reach the splash screen I get this message:"The disk drive for /home is not ready yet or not present.
[14:40] <ruan> http://pastebin.com/jFg8nFMw
[14:40] <ruan> nat-loopback?
[14:41] <llutz> ruan: you are using a router?
[14:41] <ruan> yes
[14:41] <timmybobcat14> Continue to wait; or press S to skip or M for manual recovery"
[14:41] <llutz> ruan: the router should have an option to enable nat-loopback. thats needed to access your WAN-ip from LAN
[14:41] <mynameisdeleted> is rtorrent the fastest bittorrent client?
[14:41] <ruan> !best | mynameisdeleted
[14:41] <mynameisdeleted> as its based on c and has least overhead and memory use?
[14:42] <ruan> llutz: im unable to access my router :/ my isp locked it
[14:42] <mynameisdeleted> vuze is horrible for mem use
[14:42] <llutz> ruan: change isp
[14:42] <ruan> llutz: there is no other
[14:42] <mynameisdeleted> rtorrent will be as fast as any other?
[14:42] <mynameisdeleted> on a high end system(12 core 3-4 ghz)
[14:42] <mynameisdeleted> with 12GB ram
[14:42] <mynameisdeleted> or more
[14:43] <timmybobcat14> If I press S I can log in but then I get these two error messages and that is as far as I can go. I then have to reboot: the messages are:"Could not update ICE Authority file /home/myname/.ICEauthority"
[14:43] <timmybobcat14> There is a problem with the configuration service (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfpsanity-check-2 exited with status 256)
[14:43] <mynameisdeleted> other spec is gigabit ethernet to desktop that has speed-tested at 480mbps
[14:43] <llutz> ruan: but to access your local pc from WAN you also need access to the router, for setting up portforwarding
[14:44] <secretary_linux> so chroot from usb install stick is still saying there is no /bin/sh, despite that there is a /bin/sh present from the running install image, as well as a /target/bin/sh - how can I troubleshoot this?
[14:44] <mynameisdeleted> I'll benchmark against vuze for a linux downlaod
[14:44] <mynameisdeleted> shoudl maybe get 10MB/s instead of just over 4
[14:44] <timmybobcat14> I have pasted my /etc/fstab file here:http://paste.ubuntu.com/580587/
[14:44] <Curly_Q> Nsahoo, before you change any files or configurations always first check the hardware to see if the cables were tampered with. Perhaps a circuit breaker or something. Never rule out the obvious.
[14:44] <mynameisdeleted> torrent is also limited by drive speed so dling to solid state or raid may speed it up too
[14:44] <Luis_> hello, I was hoping somebody would be able to help me with an issue i'm having, i've got a database (contacts list) which i've built up in evolution i now need to share it with other people in the company, how do i go about doing that? webDAV, LDAP server? which is easyest?
[14:45] <mynameisdeleted> I'm not sure if ti does for sure on a system wiht 10+GB ram
[14:46] <dogarrhea> hrm
[14:46] <dogarrhea> i can't seem to find any documentation on how to program Ubuntu.
[14:46] <dogarrhea> for windows, there's tons of documentation on the windows api
[14:46] <dogarrhea> not so much for the "ubuntu api"
[14:47] <dogarrhea> i'm not so sure Posix is what i want.
[14:47] <elFidel> dogarrhea: could you define what you mean by "how to program ubuntu"?
[14:47] <ruan> dogarrhea: what do you want to program exactly?
[14:47] <Curly_Q> Nsahoo, when I teach A+ classes, I deliberately use crossover cables to make the students think and learn to always check hardware first.
[14:47] <Luis_> try maybe linux/debian api?
[14:47] <mynameisdeleted> seems to be a lot less cpu
[14:47] <secretary_linux> Curly_Q: very nice trick :)
[14:47] <dogarrhea> I want to program the mouse
[14:47] <Curly_Q> :)
[14:47] <ruan> dogarrhea: there is a lot of documentation for ubuntu
[14:47] <dogarrhea> and scrape the screen
[14:47] <jatt> there is no ubuntu api to program the mouse
[14:48] <dogarrhea> then what is there?
[14:48] <timmybobcat14> When I reach the splash screen I get this message:
[14:48] <timmybobcat14> "The disk drive for /home is not ready yet or not present.
[14:48] <timmybobcat14> Continue to wait; or press S to skip or M for manual recovery"
[14:48] <timmybobcat14> If I chose to press S I can log in but then I get theses 2 messages and have to reboot:
[14:48] <timmybobcat14> "Could not update ICE Authority file /home/myname/.ICEauthority"
[14:48] <FloodBot2> timmybobcat14: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:48] <timmybobcat14> There is a problem with the configuration service (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfpsanity-check-2 exited with status 256)
[14:48] <mynameisdeleted> and faster download speed
[14:48] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: :) I pushed the cables in. let me check if the router is at fault
[14:48] <mynameisdeleted> not much less cpu now though at 8.3MB/s
[14:48] <mynameisdeleted> but tahts about double the download speeed of vuze
[14:48] <mynameisdeleted> now 9.1MB/s
[14:48] <llutz> timmybobcat14: pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" please
[14:49] <Curly_Q> Nsahoo, reboot the router too. If the router or MODEM has batteries unplug the batteries for about 20 seconds. Then put them back.
[14:49] <dogarrhea> so i am not allowed to control the mouse programatically?
[14:49] <jatt> yes you are
[14:49] <Luis_> Any ideas on how to have a shared contacts list in evolution, so that other evolution users have access to the same list and can add/delete & edit the contacts?
[14:50] <ruan> is it normal for ping to my own(outside) ip to be average 142 ms?
[14:50] <dogarrhea> seems like every forum response is just so dumb.. "i am not familiar with shell scripting but i think you can do this with shell scripting in bash" <-- THIS DOES NOT CONTROL THE MOUSE
[14:50] <dogarrhea> original question is how to create mouse clicks and mouse moves..
[14:50] <mynameisdeleted> is there a multithreaded rtorrent maybe that can utilize more than 1 core that might run faster if I have solid state and 10+GB ram?
[14:50] <jatt> read a book about how to write linux kernel drivers
[14:50] <maco> dogarrhea: i suspect "mouse macros" may be the search terms you'd want
[14:50] <lesshaste> which package has the radeon driver?
[14:50] <jatt> there is one freely available
[14:50] <Curly_Q> Ruan, try  http://www.dslreports.com        They have a test page to see the speed of your connection.
[14:50] <maco> jatt: a driver does not need to be written to make a macro
[14:51] <ruan> Curly_Q: i mean a ping to myself
[14:51] <dogarrhea> maco, i also need to scrape the screen
[14:51] <jatt> what?
[14:51] <Curly_Q> Sure you can ping your own ip address. Also a tracert.
[14:51] <dogarrhea> aka, take screenshots and read pixels
[14:51] <ruan> Curly_Q: i know the speed of my connection, im wondering why pings take so long
[14:51] <j0X3r> mynameisdeleted why should it?? you're downloading....
[14:51] <secretary_linux> I am really going up a wall trying to chroot my broken system from installer pendrive. I thought maybe the problem was that the installer didn't set up a /dev/pts for the chroot but that didn't solve it -- still getting /bin/sh not found (or the same with other shells which also exist). I know I don't have anything new so I'm really hoping someone can give me something to try so I can get some leads here :/
[14:51] <maco> dogarrhea: read pixels? not just hook into the at-spi api that lets screenreaders for the blind work?
[14:51] <dogarrhea> and it's not really a macro driven program its an artificial intelligence program
[14:52] <dajhorn> mynameisdeleted: Run a second instance of the torrent daemon.  This will be quicker and easier than changing process threading.
[14:52] <jatt> troll alert
[14:52] <Curly_Q> Ruan post it on pastebin the results.
[14:52] <ruan> Curly_Q: ok
[14:52] <jatt>  /ignore dogarrhea
[14:52] <maco> jatt: stop being intentionally provocative, please
[14:52] <raven> gpodder what is this? http://picpaste.com/9e4769c8566bdabb50d2c18d5f7f46aa.png
[14:53] <avengre> Used GParted to change a USB drive to ext, tried to change it back to NTFS with +boot  but windows won't recognize it.. is there some other flag / option i'm missing?
[14:53] <ruan> wow, i got packet loss when i pinged myself
[14:53] <maco> dogarrhea: the thing that the mouse and screen drawing are handled by is Xorg. try looking at its API
[14:53] <TobalJackson> can someone help me with a bash script
[14:53] <jatt> hehe
[14:53] <avengre> well, didn't convert perse, deleted old partition, made a new ntfs one
[14:53] <TobalJackson> http://cl1p.net/TobalJackson I have a script typed out here
[14:53] <ruan> this is either not my ip address, or something's definitely wrong
[14:53] <dogarrhea> ok good. now i can get somewhere
[14:53] <Deathsbreed> ok
[14:54] <TobalJackson> and in the Commnents I've put what my problem is, I cant get the variables defined by drive$count to equal the list variable
[14:54] <timmybobcat14> I have a problem when I try to log in: I have pasted the problem in full (not allow to paste it here apparently). Would be most grateful if a ubuntu expert would take look at it:http://paste.ubuntu.com/580600/
[14:55] <timmybobcat14> I have a problem when I try to log in: I have pasted the problem in full (not allow to paste it here apparently). Would be most grateful if a ubuntu expert would take look at it:http://paste.ubuntu.com/580600/
[14:56] <JTS000ID> I am using XrandR and have a need to print out just the names of OUTPUT/INPUT connected e.g. DVI-I-1, DVI-D-1, VGA1, etc.
[14:56] <JTS000ID> I don't want to query everything
[14:56] <JTS000ID> is there a way I could do that
[14:56] <dogarrhea> hrm
[14:56] <dogarrhea> it looks like i'm gogin to have to use assembly to do this inline in c++
[14:56] <dogarrhea> for mouse programming
[14:57] <timmybobcat14> "The disk drive for /home is not ready yet or not present.
[14:57] <timmybobcat14> Continue to wait; or press S to skip or M for manual recovery"
[14:57] <Curly_Q> Ruan are you on a University Network?
[14:57] <l1st`> Live CDs can be read in Windows, right?
[14:57] <serpentologist> is there an easy way to fire up a vpn connection created with th network manager from the console?
[14:57] <skutr34> if i make an ext 4 bigger do i have to make the swap file bigger?
[14:57] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: Reboot this computer and hold the left shift key so that you get the Grub boot menu.  Choose the (recovery) option.  Choose  "root prompt with networking".
[14:57] <lesshaste> how can I enable compositing with the radeon driver?
[14:58] <dogarrhea> and probably magik++ for the screen scraping
[14:58] <llutz> skutr34: no
[14:58] <maco> serpentologist: install the network manager cli client
[14:58] <skutr34> llutz: ok
[14:58] <serpentologist> maco, thanks
[14:59] <skutr34> llutz: i want to shrink my windows partition to give some more space to linux but idk how much i should give
[14:59] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn-what happens when I do that?
[14:59] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: That is the recovery console, where you can fix the problem.
[14:59] <lesshaste> oh.. worked it out
[14:59] <lesshaste> great :)
[14:59] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn-how do I fix the problem?
[14:59] <el> asdasdasd
[14:59] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: On the broken computer as the root user,  run `umount /home` and then run `fsck -v -f /dev/sdb7`.
[14:59] <alumno__> hola
[15:00] <assasasas> hola
[15:00] <assasasas> jdfhskdjfhsdf
[15:00] <assasasas> sghfghdghfh
[15:00] <FloodBot2> assasasas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:00] <zbk> dfgdfg
[15:00] <zbk> dfg
[15:00] <zbk> dfg
[15:00] <FloodBot2> zbk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:00] <zbk> dfdf
[15:00] <zbk> df
[15:00] <zbk> dg
[15:00] <alumno__> reeey
[15:00] <ruan> what is this...
[15:00] <alumno__> son re giles
[15:00] <alk> o.O
[15:00] <alumno__> son re capos men
[15:00] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn-did you look at my 'etc/fstab/ file?
[15:00] <zbk> agarrame el zanguango
[15:00] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: Watch the output of fsck for warnings and errors.  If the filesystem is broken, then it will ask you scary questions.
[15:00] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: Yes.
[15:00] <el> hola
[15:01] <serpentologist> maco, could you tell me the package name?
[15:01] <el> soi el tego
[15:01] <Pici> !es | zbk alumno__
[15:01] <el> aksdjaksdjasdkjasdjkasd
[15:01] <el> asdbjasdbnasdbnasdbasd
[15:01] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn-ok thank you I will do what suggested and hope it works.
[15:02] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn-"scary questions"?
[15:02] <Curly_Q> Skutr34, I dont' think it is a good idea to shrink Windows partitions. You may lose data in the process. Windows uses the FAT  File Allocation Table to keep track of the disk space and other things.
[15:02] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: After you do the filesystem check, the next step is to `mount /home` and double-check that the $HOME directory exists and that permissions are correct.
[15:02] <secretary_linux> Curly_Q: look at it like this, skutr34 might get lucky and lose windows altogether ;)
[15:02] <l1st`> Linux LiveCDs can be read in Windows as data folders [assuming they're formatted in FAT32 or some other readable fs], right?
[15:02] <Curly_Q> lol
[15:02] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: Questions like "are you really really sure?  you can't go back".
[15:02] <maco> serpentologist: cnetworkmanager
[15:02] <skutr34> Curly_Q: well i know how much is being used
[15:02] <llutz> l1st`: iso9660 or udf it is
[15:02] <beer_brouwer> l1st: jep
[15:03] <ruan> l1st`: if it's a liveusb, yes. cds arent fat32
[15:03] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn-I am not an expert-it's beginning to sound like I'm f*cked and will have to reinstall yet again. MS wins again I fear!
[15:03] <skutr34> Curly_Q: my linux partition is only 10gb
[15:03] <dogarrhea> why does the gcc compiler say "this is not fit to be used for anything" when i type gcc --version?
[15:04] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: Linux is more likely to complain about storage if the computer is flakey.  I would backup the Microsoft partitions too.
[15:04] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn-but thanks anyyway buddy.
[15:04] <skutr34> wtf you guys
[15:04] <skutr34> like seriously
[15:04] <serpentologist> maco, can't find in 10.04 repo, was it added in the last release?
 Curly_Q: look at it like this, skutr34 might get lucky and lose windows altogether ;)
[15:04] <Curly_Q> Skutr34, the next time you install Linux with Windows make sure you use LOGICAL PARTITIONS. This way you will not overlap one OS with the other.
[15:04] <skutr34> Curly_Q: im not overlapping
[15:05] <Pumpkin-> dogarrhea: does it literally say that, or is it the standard "There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE."
[15:05] <Curly_Q> Doesn't matter. Logical partitions is the right way to do it.
[15:05] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn- if I had important microsoft files on this computer  I would not let ubuntu in a million miles of it! ha ha ha ha. I
[15:05] <dogarrhea> pumpkin- same difference.
[15:05] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14:   +1   you trolled me.
[15:05] <llutz> partition type doesn't matter at all
[15:06] <skutr34> Curly_Q: i have a 220gb windows partition and only 104gb is being used
[15:06] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn-I beg your pardon?
[15:06] <Pumpkin-> dogarrhea: almost all free software comes with that. Otherwise you leave yourself open to being sued for giving away software. If you need someone to sue if something goes wrong, go buy a support contract from someone.
[15:06] <maco> serpentologist: apparently
[15:06] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: Saying things like that makes it sound like your question wasn't genuine.
[15:06] <skutr34> Curly_Q: therefore as long as i leave some extra space for windows i should be fine on data
[15:07] <Curly_Q> Skutr34, the size of the HD is not the issue. It is better for you to allocate a certain amount of disk space for Windows and Linux. Therefore, logically partitioning the drive is the best way to take advantage of the disk.
[15:07] <llutz> skutr34: you should defrag your win-filesystem before
[15:07] <dogarrhea> eh. you can be sued for anything.  even if you do include that merchantability clause and your program causes grevious damage intentionally
[15:07] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: The command names are different, but the basic procedure to save your /home partition are nearly the same as what you would need to do at the Windows recovery prompt.
[15:07] <dogarrhea> and maybe even unintentionally, you're liable
[15:07] <ruan> what's the difference between windows i386 and linux i686?
[15:07] <llutz> Curly_Q: lvm you mean?
[15:08] <joe_9> what does the file extension ".a" represent. Is that a library?
[15:08] <dajhorn> joe_9:  .a is a static library.
[15:08] <lesshaste> ruan: really?
[15:08] <l1st`> ruan: it is a USB drive, yes.  I was looking for a way to have a bootable LiveCD and some other Windows utilities at the same time, and XP apparently doesn't like the idea of partitioning a USB drive
[15:08] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn-ha ha ha. Not at all buddy perfectly genuine problem and perfectly genuine comment. But lets not fall out I'll do what you suggested but I'm not an expert or wouldn't be here. Away I go. Thanks and cheers
[15:08] <lesshaste> ruan: are you asking the difference between windows and linux?
[15:08] <cha0s2358> ActionParsnip, Hey, You helped me out a while ago with my Canon Mp150 all in one printer. You sent me a link to a resolved issue you were involved in. I'm trying to set the same printer up to a different Ubuntu 10.10 machine but I can't find the bookmark to that link. Do you think you can send it to me again?
[15:08] <ruan> lesshaste: no
[15:08] <Curly_Q> llutz, anyway you want to look at it.
[15:08] <joe_9> dajhorn, can a static library be included in a C++ application?
[15:08] <ruan> lesshaste: im asking the difference between i386 and i686
[15:08] <skutr34> omg
[15:08] <llutz> Curly_Q: i just try to make sense in what you say...
[15:08] <dajhorn> joe_9: Yes, usually.
[15:09] <skutr34> so i should just fuck it then, Curly_Q
[15:09] <lesshaste> ruan: 32 versus 64 bit?
[15:09] <skutr34> ?
[15:09] <ruan> lesshaste: no, im on 32 bit and im on i686
[15:09] <maco> ruan: they're different revisions of the x86 architecture
[15:09] <phenom> Any one have any clue on how to troubleshoot a wandering trackpad mouse? I track the mouse to say the left three times,, and it will bounce back a few inches in the opposite direction..
[15:09] <ruan> maco: ah, thanks
[15:09] <maco> ruan: i686 has more instructions available for more optimisation
[15:09] <Pici> skutr34: Mind your language here please.
[15:09] <Curly_Q> llutz, I prefer logical partitioning if the first installation was Windows. LVM if Linux is installed first.
[15:10] <MarconM> who is tenting new release ubuntu 11.04
[15:10] <beer_brouwer> phenom: clean it :D
[15:10] <Pumpkin-> ruan: different revisions of the x86 instruction set. i386 stuff will run on 386's, i686's will run on P2's (I think). i686 has some more optimal instructions, and so stuff will run better in general with it (unless you want to run it on a P1 or 486 or 386, when it won't run at all)
[15:10] <Pici> MarconM: The folks in #ubuntu+1
[15:10] <llutz> Curly_Q: logical partitions (drives inside an extended partition) and LVM are completely different things
[15:10] <cha0s2358> Whats the command to see if a personis active and what chanel they are in?
[15:10] <Tw|sT> Sorry about all of the join/quits.  I was working on a portable IRC client, working out a few kinks before committing it to disk.  All done now.  :)
[15:10] <phenom> scary,, as soon as I mention it,, it started happening more often..
[15:11] <phenom> Damn commies..
[15:11] <dajhorn> cha0s2358:   Start with /whois cha0s2358
[15:11] <cha0s2358> think you
[15:11] <ruan> how do i do a command on connect with irssi?
[15:11] <ruan> eg. when i connect to irc.freenode i want to /msg nickserv identify
[15:11] <skutr34> Curly_Q: i have LVM in fedora.....
[15:11] <soreau> ruan: try #irssi
[15:11] <bhearsum> i keep hitting this weird issue where many open windows somehow move themselves to a different workspace. for example, Thunderbird was in Workspace 2, and Firefox was in Workspace 4, and they switch places. has anyone ever heard of something like this happening? maybe i'm hitting some secret key combo?
[15:12] <Pici> ruan: There are a lot of ways.  Best to ask in #irssi
[15:12] <sebastian> where is the polish irc channel ? :D
[15:12] <llutz> ruan:  autosendcmd = "/msg NICKSERV IDENTIFY ABCDE ; wait 2000";
[15:12] <DJones> !pl | sebastian
[15:12] <_ruben> !pl
[15:12] <Curly_Q> From a Windows perspective logical partitions with Windows is fool proof. Giving up the rest of the disk to Linux works just fine.
[15:12] <ruan> llutz: thanks
[15:13] <lesshaste> sebastian: polish ubuntu channel?
[15:13] <Tw|sT> Curly_Q: Why do you prefer LVM?  (just curious)
[15:13] <skutr34> Curly_Q: i just want to give some space to fedora
[15:13] <lesshaste> sebastian: there probably is one if you aren't joking
[15:13] <Curly_Q> The fact of the matter is that this should all be accounted for before installing both kernels.
[15:13] <Pici> !pl | sebastian
[15:13] <ruan> llutz: where would i set that?
[15:13] <lesshaste> sebastian: #ubuntu-pl
[15:13] <sebastian> ehh. don't matter
[15:13] <sebastian> but thx :D
[15:13] <lesshaste> sebastian: no problem.. 100 people there
[15:13] <llutz> ruan: chatnets { freenode= .... }
[15:13] <secretary_linux> ok I really don't want to sound like a broken record but is there anything at all I can try to get a working chroot into my broken system from usb stick when I try to chroot and get an error that /bin/sh doesn't exist (meanwhile there is /bin/sh and /target/bin/sh) - I really don't want to be repetitive but I'm out of things to try other than wiping everything and reinstalling...
[15:14] <Curly_Q> The best solution is using dual drives dedicated for each OS.
[15:14] <ruan> llutz: where is that?
[15:14] <skutr34> Curly_Q: how would i do that?
[15:14] <llutz> Curly_Q: ~/.irssi/config        if not, create that part
[15:14] <lesshaste> secretary_linux: you need a forum or mailing list if you don't get a good answer on irc
[15:14] <sebastian> dedicated drivers are an alternative
[15:14] <llutz> ruan: ^^ sry
[15:14] <Pici> ruan: You shouldn't be modyifying your irssi config manually. #irssi can tell you the right way to change that setting.
[15:14] <secretary_linux> lesshaste: true, but there's no time for something like that, I'd have to go nuclear first
[15:14] <soreau> ! chroot | secretary_linux
[15:14] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: Double-check that the chroot and the LiveCD or LiveUSB are both 32-bit or both-64 bit.
[15:14] <lesshaste> secretary_linux: no time == has to be done in an hour?
[15:14] <Curly_Q> Buy another hard drive.
[15:14] <ruan> ok
[15:14] <secretary_linux> unfortunately the ! chroot guide doesn't help me
[15:14] <secretary_linux> lesshaste: that would be ideal
[15:15] <secretary_linux> lesshaste: system has been down since yesterday
[15:15] <lesshaste> sorry to hear it
[15:15] <darreo> http://pastebin.com/NRKSZx6V
[15:15] <lesshaste> try #linux too
[15:15] <lesshaste> secretary_linux: ^^
[15:15] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: thanks, someone caught me on that earlier :) they are both 64 bit now
[15:15] <darreo> im having a slight problem mounting an old jfs partition on 10.10
[15:15] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: Do you know how the chroot target got trashed?    Filesystem problem?  Bad upgrade?
[15:16] <skutr34> Curly_Q: im on a laptop so would it be ok to run one of the os's on an external harddrive?
[15:16] <Tw|sT> For dual booting, the best solution I've found is combine a USB hard drive with a motherboard that supports USB-boot.  I then install Windows into the on-system drive, and install Ubuntu to the USB drive.  This eliminates needing to install Grub to the system.  Instead, install it to the USB drive.  I have 2 different solutions like this, one is running from a 16GB Sandisk Flash drive...
[15:16] <Curly_Q> Skutr34, you can install two hard drives on your laptop. I have done it.
[15:16] <Tw|sT> while the other is installed on the first 40GB of a 120GB USB hard drive (single cable type).
[15:16] <cha0s2358> how do i ping someone?
[15:16] <ironfoot495> Hello I'm looking for a software to control the broadcasting video shows and and advertisment on an ubuntu server . Can someone tell me if there is a program like that for linux use?
[15:16] <Curly_Q> Then it all depends on the Real Estate of your laptop though.
[15:17] <skutr34> Curly_Q: i dont want to open the laptop though.... would an external work?
[15:17] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: yes, rsnapshot left a lot of hard links to all files on the system and when I tried to remove them, rm -r actually followed the links and deleted all the files on the system. I copied stuff from a good backup, but I can't boot because the backup is from before a kernel upgrade last week
[15:17] <beer_brouwer> ch0s: ping <IP>
[15:17] <Curly_Q> You can slave a second hard drive.
[15:17] <Curly_Q> Sure use a USB external.
[15:17] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: and when I say it deleted all files on the system, I mean it tried to until I stopped it after a few miserable seconds
[15:17] <cha0s2358> ActionParsnip,  You here man?
[15:18] <beer_brouwer> cha0s: or ping www.example.com
[15:18] <skutr34> Curly_Q: also would i have to reinstall linux to move it to the external?
[15:18] <Curly_Q> Keep in mind that if you boot up you need to go into the BIOS and set the boot sequence for what you want to boot up first.
[15:18] <cha0s2358> beer_brouwer, thank you
[15:18] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: Does this command succeed?   chroot /busted/system /sbin/ldconfig -v
[15:18] <Curly_Q> You can dual boot with a USB installation.
[15:19] <Tw|sT> yup, all day.
[15:19] <Curly_Q> That is if your BIOS is setup for it.
[15:19] <Tw|sT> :)
[15:19] <Tw|sT> right
[15:19] <skutr34> Curly_Q: would i have to reinstall linux to move it to the external drive>
[15:19] <skutr34> ?
[15:19] <Curly_Q> You can Dual boot with a 64 gig memory stick. Put it in your pocket and you have a Linux server and Windows to go.  hehe
[15:19] <llutz> skutr34: its no problem to have linux on the same disk as windows, you should defrag your win-filesystem before you try to shrink your win-partitions and make sure to backup your data
[15:19] <Curly_Q> Skutr34 yes.
[15:20] <skutr34> llutz: well i like the idea of having it on another harddrive hough
[15:20] <Curly_Q> I call it Linux on a stick.  hehe
[15:20] <skutr34> lol
[15:20] <llutz> skutr34: not very handy for a laptop (imho)
[15:20] <Tw|sT> most likely anyways, unless you wanna go about things the hard way.  It's best to reinstall anyway to optimize the system to the new storage medium.
[15:20] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: fails. I tried "chroot /target /sbin/ldconfig -v" getting basically same error as before. there is, in fact, no /sbin/ldconfig in the install environment, so I tried "chroot /target /target/sbin/ldconfig -v" and got the same thing (there is a /target/sbin/ldconfig)
[15:21] <darreo> fixed my problem, ran a fsck on /dev/sda4
[15:21] <Curly_Q> Skutr34 use a 64 gig memory stick to install Linux on.
[15:21] <skypce> hi
[15:21] <darreo> now it reads without a problem
[15:21] <nebular> I'm having a weird issue with openVPN and networkmanager. It no longer sets the default gateway and so unless I add it manually I can only connect to compuers on the local network
[15:21] <skutr34> llutz: ik but if i shrink windows im only going to be able to give it 30 or so gigs
[15:21] <secretary_linux> nebular: default gateway with openvpn is a server, not client setting
[15:21] <skutr34> Curly_Q: not a bad idea
[15:22] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: Your backup is probably incomplete.  Perhaps the `rm -r` deleted some system libraries.
[15:22] <cha0s2358> ActionParsnip,
[15:22] <Tw|sT> 16GB at very minimum to be useful.  I've done USB stick installs to 4GB drives, but they are very small and minimally capable.
[15:22] <llutz> skutr34: should be fine, store your data on the win-partition. writing ntfs is no problem
[15:22] <skypce> i have a compiled kernel with acpi modules included, when i shutdown  the machine it doesnt shutdown  what can i do?
[15:22] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: how can I determine what they are? and best I can tell, the backup is actually complete
[15:22] <nebular> secretary_linux: Yes, however openVPN works fine when I boot into linux or on my phone running android 2.3
[15:22] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: if I could chroot in, I would try to do some apt-get repairs
[15:22] <skutr34> llutz: i dont understand
[15:22] <dajhorn> secretary_linux:  That would be a lot of work.   A quicker solution would be to reinstall every package on the broken system.
[15:22] <skutr34> Curly_Q: those things are like 100 dollars
[15:22] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: yes that's also my inclination but I'm not sure the best way to approach it
[15:22] <nebular> so my sever is sending the proper gateway, network manager isn't applying it
[15:23] <Curly_Q> You can install VMware on a memory stick with Windows, Linux, Apple or anything.
[15:23] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: First, get a list of every package on the system.   dpkg --root=/busted/system --get-selections | cut -f1 -d ' '
[15:23] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: ok that's gold, I'm doing it now
[15:23] <nebular> so I'm at a loss as to what happened to nework manager.
[15:23] <llutz> skutr34: if you need more space, store parts of your data (music/photos/videos) on windows-partition from linux. so you won't need more than those 30GB linux
[15:23] <elHannos> Howdy again. Is 'upstart' the exclusive init controlling process or are there still parts from SysVinit around in 10.10 ?
[15:24] <Curly_Q> So, stop crying and start buying.   :)
[15:24] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: there's actually no dpkg in the damn install environment...
[15:24] <skutr34> Curly_Q: it would be cheaper to buy an external drive
[15:24] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: Okay, the system is hosed.
[15:24] <skutr34> llutz: yeah i already do that
[15:24] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: Wait...
[15:24] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: well that's the install image, there is a dpkg in the broken system
[15:25] <dajhorn> secretary_linux:  Don't run that in the chroot.  dpkg and apt need to be in the recovery environment.
[15:25] <genii-around> elHannos: upstart uses /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf      to call the old-style scripts in /etc/init.d
[15:25] <Curly_Q> Skutr34 the reason I mentioned memory stick is because your laptop is portable. Which means to carry a separate external hard drive is not the way to go. Put the memory stick in your pocket instead. Does that sound reasonable?
[15:25] <skutr34> Curly_Q: lol ill ask my parents (hint, hint
[15:25] <skutr34> Curly_Q: ik
[15:25] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: I know, I can't get into a chroot anyway :) when I tried doing what you said using /target/usr/bin/dpkg, I get "error while loading shared libraries: libselinux.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[15:25] <skutr34> Curly_Q: i just dont want to spend 100 dollars on something i already have in my pants xD
[15:25] <Curly_Q> Yeah dear old dad and mom.   :)
[15:26] <elHannos> genii-around: So rc-sysinit.conf is another upstart-'job'.
[15:26] <skutr34> Curly_Q: i apologize :)
[15:26] <Curly_Q> :)
[15:26] <david__> ;
[15:27] <skutr34> Curly_Q: ok so for now i think ill shrink windows a bit until i can get something like a shtick or an external drive
[15:27] <genii-around> elHannos: As far as I can tell.    Welcome to the club.
[15:27] <skutr34> Curly_Q: but i gotta go thanks for the help, and yeah lol
[15:28] <Curly_Q> OK Skutr34, nice to meet you.
[15:28] <genii-around> elHannos: But yeah, initctl list     shows rc-sysinit
[15:28] <elHannos> genii-around: ok, thx
[15:29] <daniel> Moin
[15:30] <daniel> :(
[15:30] <vladimiroff> in which ubuntu release wayland will be installed and used by default?
[15:30] <vladimiroff> I mean, is there a plan for it?
[15:30] <vladimiroff> Just curious how ready is wayland for such a step
[15:31] <CMOT-Weasel> ohai
[15:31] <v_v> vladimiroff: hello. what is wayland ?
[15:31] <Pici> vladimiroff: Not yet. It was annonced after the last UDS, so I would expect that its discussed during the next one probably.
[15:31] <CMOT-Weasel> Random question: I maxed the RAM on my laptop, it started using swap. Fair enough. I've now got >1Gb of RAM free (out of 1.5Gb) and it's still using swap.
[15:31] <CMOT-Weasel> And making everything pig-slow
[15:31] <CMOT-Weasel> Any suggestions?
[15:31] <gnewb> I installed full HDD, now I would like to shrink the install so that I can have extra HDD space for multimedia, is GParted the way or is there a guide from Ubuntu on how this is done?
[15:32] <secretary_linux> ok, so without dpkg able to run, how can I get a list of apt packages installed into my broken system from a usbstick?
[15:32] <v_v> vladimiroff: ok, i googled it
[15:32] <vladimiroff> Pici: so 11.10 may be?
[15:32] <vladimiroff> or later?
[15:33] <Pici> vladimiroff: I personally think after the next LTS, but thats just my opinion.
[15:34] <Curly_Q> CMOT-Weasel check this interesting reading:  http://kerneltrap.org/node/3202
[15:35] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: dpkg needs to run from the Live environment.  It sounds like you have more than one problem.
[15:36] <Curly_Q> CMOT-Weasel, if you have that much RAM why not for the sake of argument disable SWAP and see for yourself.
[15:36] <vladimiroff> Pici: okay. thanks for it :)
[15:36] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: ok, well maybe that part is a simple matter. it seems the ubuntu live environment should include dpkg somewhere and not depend on having a broken system around somewhere
[15:37] <aeon-ltd> CMOT-Weasel: there is a setting 'swappiness' google it, that determines when to swap
[15:37] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: The Live CD certainly has it.  Maybe try that.
[15:37] <lojack> Hello.  Can anyone tell me how I can disable (prevent) swap partition from being accessed and mounted during the boot process?  Adding noswap as boot parameter isn't working.
[15:37] <Curly_Q> CMOT-Weasel, keep in mind that if you have two RAM modules and one is faster than the other, the speed of the RAM will only be that of the slowest RAM.
[15:38] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: this is the server amd64 install image... that's basically what I've got to work with. I'll poke around and see if it's there someplace...
[15:38] <Curly_Q> Many people make the mistake of buying a fast secondary RAM chip when there is another really slow RAM chip on board.
[15:39] <Curly_Q> Remove the slowest RAM module.
[15:39] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: if I can remember the important services I need to reinstall, is there any reason I can't just reinstall the system overtop (without formatting!) without knowing every installed package?
[15:39] <Curly_Q> Always put in matching RAM modules.
[15:45] <Curly_Q> CMOT-Weasel, also try making the SWAP file the same size as the RAM you have. See what happens.
[15:45] <dr0id> i have an old laptop, will ubuntu 10.10 work on it ? currently i am running 9.04 , it has 1gb ram, 200gb HDD and core2duo
[15:46] <llutz> dr0id: it should
[15:46] <Curly_Q> CMOT-Weasel, when I ran Red Hat 9 I had a separate hard drive mounted just for SWAP. It worked very fast.
[15:46] <aeon-ltd> dr0id: dude thats not 'old' :)
[15:46] <Guest24568> ok so i have a hard drive with ubuntu and windows xp partitions, using grub2 its loading ubuntu by default. Im adding a hard drive and installing windows 7 to it, what do i need to do to get wnidows 7 added to the bootloader on the ubuntu/xp drive?
[15:46] <dr0id> aeon-ltd: well, it is 5 years old and last time i tried to upgrade to 9.10 and failed
[15:46] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: You will lose most of your /etc/customization if you clobber the system.
[15:46] <dr0id> so whats the best way to upgrade to 10.10 pls ?
[15:46] <ScottO_> do i just update grub?
[15:46] <erUSUL> !upgrade | dr0id
[15:47] <dr0id> thank you
[15:47] <llutz> dr0id: backup your data and do a fresh install
[15:47] <secretary_linux> so, I want to reinstall ubuntu over top of a broken system without formatting or unnecessarily deleting any files. what's the best way to do this? the installer seems to not want to let me proceed to installation without partitioning first
[15:47] <dr0id> ok., thanks
[15:47] <dr0id> llutz: home and /var/www is all i need to back i guess :)
[15:47] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: oops didn't see your last message. yes, I can back up my /etc and selectively put it back in without a problem
[15:47] <_crash_> lol
[15:47] <_crash_> I just crashed ubuntu
[15:47] <dr0id> lol
[15:47] <Curly_Q> Using a separate hard drive for SWAP reduces latency.
[15:47] <ScottO_> anyone?
[15:48] <llutz> dr0id: depends... i like to have /etc backed up too and a list of installed packages
[15:48] <_crash_> I was listening music in Audacious and then I opened a video in Firefox and it crashed
[15:48] <aeon-ltd> secretary_linux: you can't, you have to partition to make space for a fresh system. if you have a usb stick why don't you boot into a live environment rescue files you need then install ubuntu?
[15:48] <_crash_> :D
[15:48] <_crash_> first time this happens
[15:48] <dr0id> ok
[15:48] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: If you have a full backup, and if you don't mind doing an overlay, then I would do a fresh install.  Anything that broke your system libraries probably caused latent damage elsewhere.
[15:48] <secretary_linux> aeon-ltd: because there is no usb stick large enough to hold user files from this system and /home is not a separate partition
[15:49] <_crash_> I should be Ubuntu tester hehe
[15:49] <_crash_> later
[15:49] <secretary_linux> come on, there's gotta be a way to try it at least.
[15:50] <Curly_Q> Secretary linux, I have a 64 gig memory stick. I use it for the kernel and you can mount a separate drive for the data files and more.
[15:50] <secretary_linux> Curly_Q: good for you ;)
[15:51] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: A manual `debootstrap` will keep your /home intact, but this some work.  The alternate installer will let you skip the format step, but you need to be extra cautious.
[15:51] <Curly_Q> Kingston makes a good flash drive.
[15:51] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: what do you mean by extra cautious?
[15:52] <dee01> hi. i got 10.10 and i encrypted my /home . now i cannot connect via ssh to a server anymore. there is always a password prompt. any hints?
[15:52] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: You need to cancel the install at the disk partitioning step, click back to get to the installation task menu, and then click the right post-partitioning step.  If you just mash the <enter> key, then you'll overwrite the existing system.
[15:52] <ScottO_> ok so i have a hard drive with ubuntu and windows xp partitions, using grub2 its loading ubuntu by default. Im adding a hard drive and installing windows 7 to it, what do i need to do to get wnidows 7 added to the bootloader on the ubuntu/xp drive?
[15:53] <gfs> hi,all.which free vpn's faster in American?
[15:53] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: that seems to jump me back into the partitioner. how do I get into the alternate installer?
[15:53] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: The Ubuntu alternate installer looks like the classic white-on-blue Debian installer.  It will be family if you've used Debian.
[15:53] <Curly_Q> Gfx x11VPN seems to work OK. Works with SSH.
[15:53] <beer_brouwer> dee01: pasword prompt is normal with ssh, except you saved your puclic key on the server you want to connect to
[15:54] <ScottO_> gfs: trying to torrent?
[15:54] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: I think the "alternate" installer you speak of might be the default on the server edition?
[15:54] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: Yes, potentially.
[15:54] <dee01> beer_brouwer: the public key is on a server. yes.
[15:54] <gfs> oh,i'm going try
[15:54] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: if that's the case though it's still not letting me bypass that step
[15:54] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: Ubuntu publishes the regular -desktop iso, but you need the -alternate iso.
[15:54] <beer_brouwer> dee01: then I'm afraid I can't help you
[15:55] <dee01> beer_brouwer: tnx anyway
[15:55] <dajhorn> secretary_linux:  http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download
[15:55] <JTS000ID> I am stuck at this..can't get this regular expression right..i have a string containing line..i need to search for DVI in this line..but there are at least 4 DVIs and I need to look for a specific one..can someone guide me with this
[15:56] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: no time for downloads.. I'll try rebooting in install mode, as I was in recovery mode
[15:56] <ua> hello
[15:56] <seyacat> hi ubuntu
[15:56] <ua> need help please
[15:56] <beer_brouwer> ua: then tell us your problem :P
[15:56] <seyacat> in my university i have 4 access points with same essid without passwor, how can i make ubuntu choose the best
[15:57] <ua> i'd like to delete lines on grub, because lot of lines
[15:58] <weecol> # ..... comments
[15:58] <bastidrazor> ua: uninstall older kernels. in synaptic search for "linux-image"
[15:58] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: you know something I could try would be backing up /etc and /var, deleting everything except /home, and then doing this reinstall without format overtop. that would eliminate any fucked up system remnants
[16:00] <Curly_Q> Seyacat, if all of the access points use the same hardware, I don't see any difference.
[16:00] <Curly_Q> It all depends upon how many people at one given time are occupying the access point. You can html into the router and see who is logged in.
[16:01] <Curly_Q> Type in:     http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:02] <secretary_linux> nothing gets me going like htmling into routers
[16:02] <Curly_Q> Click the link above and it will take you there.
[16:02] <dr0id> i was just thinking
[16:02] <dr0id> when i do apropos ruby i get many results
[16:02] <seyacat> Curly_Q: ubuntu cant connect to this network
[16:02] <milind> when i do tar -xvf myfolder.tgz, its spitting everything out in my current directory....its not creating a directory called myfolder..how can untar myfolder.tgz such that its automatically creates a direcotry called myfolder
[16:02] <dr0id> for example ruby1.9 is one of them, then when i do man ruby1.9 i get no man page, why so ?
[16:03] <llutz> dr0id: man -k ruby
[16:03] <Curly_Q> Seyacat then you didn't specify your question then. Explain.
[16:03] <dajhorn> milind: That behavior is by convention.  It isn't automatic.  The person that created myfolder.tgz forgot to include the myfolder/ prefix.
[16:03] <dr0id> llutz: shows me ruby1.9  , but when i do man ruby1.9 i shows an error
[16:03] <dr0id> cant resolve /usr/share/man/man1/ruby1.9.1.gz .....
[16:04] <mnemoc> hi, where can I tweak the config network-manager passes to dnsmasq when used to share internet? according to `ps` it's using --conf-file /tmp/mbnyvvmubx.conf but that file doesn't exist :<
[16:04] <dajhorn> milind:   mkdir myfolder;  tar -C myfolder -xzvf myfolder.tgz
[16:04] <sipior> dr0id: does "man ruby" not work?
[16:04] <milamber> milind: mkdir <directory> && tar -xvf myfolder.tgz <directory>
[16:05] <llutz> milamber: -C <directory>
[16:05]  * milamber llutz +1
[16:06] <milind> thanks guys..but if i wanted to tar a folder, which when untarred would automatically created that folder..how would i go about doing that
[16:06] <dr0id> sipior: no
[16:06] <sipior> dr0id: and the error is?
[16:06] <dr0id> man: can't resolve /usr/share/man/man1/ruby.1.gz: No such file or directory
[16:06] <dr0id> No manual entry for ruby
[16:07] <milamber> milind: tar -pczf name_of_your_archive.tar.gz /path/to/directory
[16:07] <CMOT-Weasel> 15:36 #ubuntu: < Curly_Q> CMOT-Weasel, if you have that much RAM why not for  the sake of argument disable SWAP and see for  yourself.
[16:07] <secretary_linux> so can anyone confirm that there is absolutely no way in the ubuntu server installer to select mountpoints without formatting partitions?
[16:07] <CMOT-Weasel> Only got 1.5Gb, it regularly uses swap
[16:07] <CMOT-Weasel> swap is set up correctly, it's just not moving from swap back to RAM
[16:08] <CMOT-Weasel> It's a laptop with a 1.8" 4200RPM HDD so swap is pretty slow!
[16:08] <sipior> dr0id: have you recently uninstalled or upgraded the ruby package? also, which version of ubuntu are you running?
[16:08] <cha0s2358> ActionParsnip, you here?
[16:09] <dajhorn> CMOT-Weasel:   Linux swap is somewhat aggressive.  It will pre-fill the swap even if it doesn't immediately need to.
[16:09] <secretary_linux> let me ask this question another way: if all my partitions are mounted and set as "do not use" in manual partitioning, what will happen when i click "write changes to disk"? will they be formatted anyway? will that let me get out of this loop where when I go to the menu and hit the install option, I'm jumped back into partitioning?
[16:09] <sacarlson> dr0id: you will see what I see with man ruby here http://www.manpagez.com/man/1/ruby/
[16:10] <Stevethepirate> Hi, I have an old 10.04 box, but I'd like to just update 1 package from the latest version (bnetd). Is this possible?
[16:10] <CMOT-Weasel> dajhorn: Fair play, anything I can really do about it?
[16:10] <sipior> secretary_linux: they won't be formatted. but of course then there's nowhere to install to...
[16:11] <secretary_linux> sipior: hmmm, but how can I select mountpoints without formatting?
[16:11] <ruan> Stevethepirate: yes, if the latest version of bnetd is on 10.04(lucid)
[16:11] <ruan> repos^
[16:11] <dajhorn> CMOT-Weasel:   I disable swap on computers with 1GB+ of memory unless I want to hibernate the computer.
[16:11] <Stevethepirate> ruan: But thats what I am saying
[16:11] <sipior> secretary_linux: my recollection is that there is a separate format checkbox, but it has been a while.
[16:11] <sacarlson> secretary_linux: that sounds like it should work.  as long as you provide one unused partition at install ubuntu should guess that's where you want to install it
[16:12] <Stevethepirate> I presume there is an update in the 10.10 (because some clients cannot connect to my server)
[16:12] <Stevethepirate> So I assume there was an update of sorts.
[16:12] <dajhorn> CMOT-Weasel: Personally, for a workstation,  I prefer the oom killer over a slow swap.
[16:12] <secretary_linux> sacarlson: that's not at all what i want to do though
[16:12] <dajhorn> CMOT-Weasel:  You can do the same thing by changing the swappiness variables.
[16:12] <ruan> Stevethepirate: is there an update in update manger?
[16:12] <sacarlson> secretary_linux: you don't want to install?
[16:13] <secretary_linux> sacarlson: well, maybe it is... the partitions aren't "unused" per se, I just want to reinstall over top of an existing partition. I guess the installer does see it as "unused"
[16:13] <LarsTorbenk> question
[16:13] <dajhorn> Stevethepirate:   Look at the 'prevu' package.
[16:13] <LarsTorbenk> should use 10.04 or 10.10`
[16:13] <he_> any body?
[16:13] <CMOT-Weasel> dajhorn: Okay, I'll have a look, cheers :)
[16:13] <LarsTorbenk> 10.10 ends support 6 months
[16:13] <dajhorn> CMOT-Weasel: Welcome.
[16:13] <sipior> he_: something we can help you with?
[16:13] <Stevethepirate> dajhorn: will do, regards.
[16:13] <sacarlson> secretary_linux: as long as that's what you write to the partition that's what ubuntu will see
[16:13] <ruan> LarsTorbenk: yes but 10.10 can be upgraded
[16:14] <he_> not really,first time come here
[16:14] <secretary_linux> heh when I try to write changes to disk it just says no root filesystem defined, and tells me to change this in the partitioning menu. which starts the loop over as there seems to be nowhere to set the root mountpoint
[16:14] <ruan> LarsTorbenk: if you plan not to upgrade, then you can use 10.04
[16:14] <LarsTorbenk> yes ruan thats right
[16:15] <kanja1> hey, php5-cli has a dependency on libdb4.8, but only up to 4.7 is in apt. How can I meet that dept?
[16:15] <he_> many thx to u
[16:15] <he_> night
[16:15] <gfs> I'm going to bed. Goodnight everybody.
[16:15] <milind> milamber, i did that same thing..but it did not work..its still spitting out everything in my current directory instead of myfolder
[16:15] <secretary_linux> I found the trick. if you want to install to an existing partition without formatting, you have to select the filesystem type it uses currently, and then choose use current data
[16:16] <moller> goodnight
[16:16] <sacarlson> secretary_linux: so pick a partition to be root
[16:16] <LarsTorbenk> ruan: need an newinstall
[16:16] <ruan> LarsTorbenk: ?
[16:16] <moller> Hello beginner to linux here
[16:16] <LarsTorbenk> is 11.04 good untill now
[16:16] <larious> secretary_linux: your name sound as guru, so maybe you cn help me
[16:16] <LarsTorbenk> because than i will 11.04 now not more 10.10
[16:16] <ruan> LarsTorbenk: im not sure
[16:16] <LarsTorbenk> okay test it
[16:16] <LarsTorbenk> i will test it
[16:17] <ruan> LarsTorbenk: it may be unstable because it is in testing stages
[16:17] <bastidrazor> kanja1: as of 10.04 libdb4.8 is in the repo's
[16:17] <ruan> LarsTorbenk: not intended for normal use
[16:17] <ruan> !natty
[16:17] <secretary_linux> sorry larious I have too many problems of my own
[16:17] <bastidrazor> !info libdb4.8 | kanja1
[16:17] <ruan> in component main, is required.
[16:18] <LarsTorbenk> maybe can i ask in the round which ubuntuversion  do you  use
[16:19] <ruan> LarsTorbenk: im using 10.10
[16:19] <dr0id> sipior: yeh, i had recently tried to upgrade
[16:19] <LarsTorbenk> ok
[16:20] <claw> hallo ich habe folgendes problem : ich wollte einen 42" Plasma als monitor benutzen aber die anzeige überlappt den darstellungsbereich. wie könnte ich das anpassen?
[16:21] <elFidel> claw: english
[16:21] <claw> oh sry
[16:21] <elFidel> !de | claw
[16:21] <zelev> Good afternoon...how can I scan a remote computer for an open port?  The port I´m looking for will be above UDP/25000 and nmap doesn´t seem to pick it up...thank youç
[16:22] <claw> i want to use a 42" Plasma for Display but the picture is bigger than the area of the screen - what can i do ?
[16:23] <sacarlson> secretary_linux: basicly just delete a partition you don't need with gparted and then boot live cd to  install http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287934
[16:23] <BluesKaj> claw, what kind of connection ?
[16:24] <claw> HDMI
[16:24] <gnewb> scarlson: Is that the same as Resizing an sda part?
[16:24] <claw> or better DVI -> HDMI
[16:24] <BluesKaj> claw what's the res set at ?
[16:24] <claw> 1920x1080px
[16:25] <BluesKaj> claw mine is 1920x1080 and fits perfectly, check you tv picture format settings
[16:25] <claw> 16:9
[16:25] <sacarlson> gnewb: well resizing would be needed if you don't want to delete the partition but just the newly created partition from resize as undefined then install
[16:25] <claw> i already checked the tv
[16:26] <gnewb> scarlson: Thank you.
[16:26] <moller> Guys i downloaded this file, how do i "install" it? install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz
[16:27] <Guest40473> Is it possible to  do a --dry-run with pm-hibernate, similar to s2disk? I would like to test how much swap space is required by my usage
[16:27] <syn3rgy> Two ppl can both ssh into my computer on there accounts. FINE. What I want to do is let my girlfriend use the HDTV we have to play games in her account while I am in my account working. How can this be done?
[16:27] <BluesKaj> claw, I mean the tv picture setting , make sure it isn't zoomed
[16:28] <sacarlson> moller: that's not the method we normally use to install in ubuntu,  there should be a deb file to install for flash.  I would just install the restricted extra package
[16:28] <claw> yes just did that its a ubuntu problem
[16:28] <claw> BluesKaj i have another maschiene connected and it works there
[16:29] <moller> well inside sacarlson there's a .so file
[16:29] <moller> i got linux first time ever yesterday, not much i understand atm
[16:29] <sacarlson> moller: I don't care what's in it.  if you don't use the package system of ubuntu you will lickly break something
[16:30] <moller> Alright
[16:30] <nhw> hi
[16:30] <syn3rgy> Anybody actually know GNU/Linux here? How can two users use the same graphics card at the same time?
[16:30] <moller> hello
[16:30] <joox> hi all XD
[16:30] <moller> chainsaw...
[16:31] <BluesKaj> claw, what model tv ..I'm connected to a 42" panasonic plasma
[16:31] <sacarlson> moller: all you need to do is sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras  and that will install it and more
[16:31] <claw> me too
[16:31] <claw> TX42XXXXX
[16:31] <sacarlson> moller: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[16:31] <nhw> what app works good for YM ?
[16:32] <moller> ok sacarlson do you have any tutorials or guides to link me to learn a bit more about linux terminal commands?
[16:32] <bastidrazor> !terminal
[16:32] <sacarlson> moller: you can use synaptic
[16:32] <syn3rgy> sigh ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-C2TnN -D 8080 | irssi
[16:32] <BluesKaj> claw, which graphics card ?
[16:33] <nishant> how do I write a C program in ubuntu
[16:33] <bastidrazor> moller: also http://ubuntu-manual.org/  :: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal   both these links will help
[16:33] <nhw> can I change monitor refresh rate using terminal ?
[16:33] <herpaderp> what's the sed command to show the first four lines of a file and the last two?
[16:33] <nishant> is there a good ide like Turbo C too ?
[16:33] <Fuchs> herpaderp: use tail and head for it, it is easier.
[16:33] <LinuxReign> !tail
[16:34] <sacarlson> nishant: nishant you will need a compiler and header so install http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=build-essential
[16:34] <herpaderp> i'm not sure on the syntax for tail, all i can manage is to list the last two lines
[16:34] <nishant> I have gcc installed , do I need more sacarlson
[16:34] <donnib> hi, i am struggling with a NAS that i want to mount a share in my ubuntu install, i tried NFS ans CIFS and have problems with them, with NFS i can mount but i see a lock icon on all folders, with CIFS i get Permission denied when mounting, the NFS does not require password, it's a Netgear NAS if that makes a difference
[16:35] <Fuchs> tail -n <number of lines>. Same for head.
[16:35] <herpaderp> or rather "head -n 4 file && tail -n 2 file"?
[16:35] <Fuchs> you can as well read the manual of them with  man tail  or  man head
[16:35] <sacarlson> nishant: you always need more but I'm not sure what kind of software you want to write like gui?
[16:35] <donnib> i hope that somebody can help me or point me in the right direction, i feel i have tried alot of things without success
[16:35] <nishant> sacarlson, no learning the basic file handling etc
[16:36] <compdoc> cifs is easy enough to set permissions
[16:36] <moller> ill read thx
[16:36] <donnib> when using sudo mount which UID is used ? the root or the user currently logged in ?
[16:37] <sacarlson> nishant: I'm not sure there are so many https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch09s03.html
[16:37] <nishant> right
[16:37] <nishant> thanks
[16:37] <joe_9> Can someone help me understand this http://codingfreak.blogspot.com/2010/01/creating-and-using-static-libraries-in.html
[16:37] <moller> ok how do i install the upgrades/patches with synaptic after i marked them?
[16:38] <User171> @moller click appy
[16:38] <moller> unclickable
[16:38] <sacarlson> nishant: if all you need is file manipulation are you sure you even need C ?  there are ruby, bash , perl, php .....
[16:39] <donnib> anyone ?
[16:39] <nishant> no sacarlson I am learning the basic of unix internals , only simple TC like thing is enough
[16:39] <User171> then if u r doing upgrade d in terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:39] <llutz> donnib: root
[16:39] <kodez> retend
[16:40] <donnib> so how do i make it mount using another user ? when i try without sudo it says only root can do mount
[16:40] <llutz> donnib: add "users" as option to /etc/fstab
[16:40] <Pici> donnib: or use sudo -u someusername
[16:40] <llutz> donnib: or "user", man mount for differences
[16:40] <donnib> Pici: will try that first
[16:41] <donnib> llutz: thx, will try, first i need to get mount to work manually then ill have to move to fstab
[16:41] <llutz> donnib: on non-unix filesystem you also can use "mount /fs /mountpoint -o uid=1000"
[16:42] <llutz> sudo mount even
[16:42] <donnib> llutz: so i can do that from fstab with uid=1000 option ?
[16:42] <BluesKaj> !pm | claw
[16:42] <llutz> donnib: what filesystem and what is your final goal?
[16:42] <stef> Hi, i have sensors-lm sensors-hdd and sensers applet installed, i added every hdd temp to my applet and it works fine, but when i do a reboot al the temps are gone? i can only see the cpu temps. Can someone help me please ?
[16:43] <donnib> llutz: my goal is to automount an CIFS share (or NFS if that's better) from my NAS in Ubuntu
[16:43] <llutz> donnib: man mount         cifs/nfs have own options
[16:43] <donnib> llutz: for the moment i am trying to succeed to mount it manually using mount in ubuntu and i fail doing that
[16:46] <rob1> join phyton
[16:47] <eviljames> Hi folks, I'm seeing a serious issue with 10.10 on lvm root
[16:47] <Luis_> hello, i'm trying to create a shared contacts list so that everyone in the worshop has access to the same info, what's the easyest way about doing this?
[16:47] <eviljames> actually, it manifests in 10.04 too, but not on a FS that exists on the drive itself.  Only, it seems, on LVM.
[16:48] <wmp> hello, i want to sign error 404 in ubuntu.com
[16:48] <wmp> i can do it on this channel?
[16:48] <eviljames> Long story short: load live cd.  apt-get install mdadm lvm2.  install onto lvm root, using the main installer.  reboot.  do updates.  die.
[16:49] <victorhugo289> Hi
[16:49] <eviljames> This _only_ manifests on lvm2, but is not necessarily due to apt.  Sometimes watching a flash video causes death.
[16:49] <bastidrazor> wmp: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[16:49] <eviljames> What ends up happening is things start to segfault, one by one, until everything segfaults.
[16:49] <osinet> hi everyone... i have problem with network manager... I can't  open the network manager.. but if I try to open with shell, I have this error:
[16:49] <osinet> osinet@osinetbook:~$ nm-connection-editor
[16:49] <osinet> ** (nm-connection-editor:2435): WARNING **: Icon nm-device-wired missing: Error al abrir el archivo: Demasiados niveles de enlaces simbólicos
[16:49] <osinet> ** (nm-connection-editor:2435): WARNING **: Failed to initialize the UI, exiting...
[16:49] <FloodBot2> osinet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:49] <victorhugo289> Guys, how safe is it to mount folders using the 'mount --bind' command?
[16:49] <wmp> bastidrazor: emmm, 10.10, what you want this info?
[16:49] <eviljames> victorhugo289: Provided that you actually want to bind-mount, yes.
[16:49] <sacarlson> donnib: did you try anything like this mount -t cifs -o guest //<IP_ADDRESS>/share /path_to/mount  as seen http://opensuse.swerdna.org/susesambacifs.html
[16:50] <llutz> victorhugo289: define "safe"    it works and is commonly used
[16:50] <bastidrazor> wmp: i suppose i misunderstood your fragmented statement.
[16:50] <eviljames> victorhugo289: mount --bind = take folder /a and have it also at /some/place/a
[16:50] <donnib> sacarlson: yes i did and i get permission denied
[16:50] <donnib> i pressume it's a problem with the UID
[16:50] <sacarlson> donnib: with sudo ?
[16:50] <victorhugo289> I ask this because I've noticed that the folders so mounted don't have a working trash bin, that is: the trash bin doens't work in folders mouted with bind
[16:50] <donnib> scarleo: yes
[16:50] <wmp> bastidrazor: look, on this page: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download dont work link: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04.1/ubuntu-10.04.1-server-amd64.iso.torrent
[16:51] <osinet> hello
[16:51] <victorhugo289> I mount with bind using scripts at startup.
[16:51] <sacarlson> donnib: well make sure your user and uuid match or make a new one
[16:51] <llutz> victorhugo289: scripts? why not /etc/fstab?
[16:51] <nephlin> hello
[16:51] <Luis_> hello, i'm trying to create a shared contacts list so that everyone in the worshop has access to the same info, what's the easyest way about doing this?
[16:52] <donnib> sacarlson: yes but the problem is that sudo authenticates with root and if use sudo -u someusername it says only root can do mount
[16:52] <victorhugo289> Fstab doesn't work with --bind, because the folder I want to mount is on a FAT32 partition that I automounts at start up too.
[16:52] <eviljames> Anybody have a good place that I can go for detailed information on lvm / ubuntu combinations?  The wiki is pretty pointless, and filing a bug at this point is equally wasteful as I don't have useful debugging output.
[16:53] <llutz> victorhugo289: sure it works
[16:53] <osinet> (12:49:24) osinet: hi everyone... i have problem with network manager... I can't  open the network manager.. but if I try to open with shell, I have this error:
[16:53] <osinet> (12:49:24) osinet: osinet@osinetbook:~$ nm-connection-editor
[16:53] <osinet> (12:49:24) osinet: ** (nm-connection-editor:2435): WARNING **: Icon nm-device-wired missing: Error al abrir el archivo: Demasiados niveles de enlaces simbólicos
[16:53] <osinet> (12:49:24) osinet: ** (nm-connection-editor:2435): WARNING **: Failed to initialize the UI, exiting...
[16:53] <FloodBot2> osinet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:53] <sipior> osinet: stop doing that. seriously.
[16:53] <osinet> sorry
[16:53] <llutz> victorhugo289: just make sure you mount your vfat 1st, then the bind
[16:53] <sacarlson> donnib: look in System>administration>users & groups and check all of them for the user you want as the mount user
[16:53] <eviljames> osinet: Sounds like you're missing an icon, I guess.
[16:53] <victorhugo289> Startup> Mount FAT partition > --bind a folder in that partition. This doesn't seem to work, apparently.
[16:53] <eviljames> osinet: I can't be bothered to toss it into google translate, though.
[16:55] <bastidrazor> wmp: 10.04.1 is no longer available. they offer 10.04.2 or 10.04   http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04.2/
[16:55] <osinet> eviljames, i don't understand you
[16:55] <donnib> sacarlson: nope, does not work, still get only root can do that
[16:55] <victorhugo289> You see I have an important folder that I want to bind to 'Documents' but I'm afraid it might cause problems because mounting with --bind might not be safe.
[16:55] <roland> is it possible to do a dualscreen computer setup using a laptop as a second monitor? The laptop is connected to a PC over ethernet and shows a virtual screen so that it would be possible to move a window from PC over to the laptop screen.
[16:56] <eviljames> roland: synergy2.sourceforge.net
[16:56] <eviljames> roland: This shares mouse/keyboard over a network across 2 machines.
[16:56] <roland> eviljames: I'm already using this, I want to move a window too
[16:56] <sacarlson> donnib: I assume you checked the admin box for the user you want to mount
[16:56] <eviljames> roland: No.
[16:56] <victorhugo289> I have already noticed that the trash bin doesn't work in --bind mounted folders. Also when I click on some files they seem to act kinda weird...
[16:56] <eviljames> roland: err, rather, no it is not possible in the way you are thinking.
[16:56] <theprototype> Does anyone here know anything about Rainbow tables and coWPAtty ??
[16:57] <donnib> sacarlson: yes
[16:57] <eviljames> roland: That being said, you could use ssh and X forwarding to make a window from one machine appear on another.  This can't be done on the fly (afaik).
[16:57] <sacarlson> donnib: show me the line
[16:57] <stef> Hi, i have sensors-lm sensors-hdd and sensers applet installed, i added every hdd temp to my applet and it works fine, but when i do a reboot al the temps are gone? i can only see the cpu temps. Can someone help me please ?
[16:57] <roland> eviljames: I have used that trick too, but not really what I'm after
[16:57] <sacarlson> donnib: show me the command line to mount
[16:58] <donnib> sudo -u testUser mount -t cifs -o guest //<IP_ADDRESS>/uTorrent /media/uTorrent
[16:58] <donnib> i also tried sudo mount -t cifs -o guest,uid=1003 //<IP_ADDRESS>/uTorrent /media/uTorrent
[16:58] <eviljames> roland: Yeah, those are your options, amigo.  Unless someone here has seen a way to move individual windows from one machine to another, but I have not.  FWIW, I've been using Linux for over 10 years. :/
[16:58] <sacarlson> donnib: does guest exist on your samba server?
[16:58] <eviljames> roland: if you do find something that does this - please PM it to me :D
[16:59] <donnib> sacarlson: the NAS does not have authentication on the shares
[16:59] <moller> how do i become sudo?
[16:59] <moller> i dont have privileges
[17:00] <llutz> moller: ask your admin
[17:00] <sacarlson> donnib: ok then take the -o guest out then
[17:00] <sacarlson> donnib:  sudo mount -t cifs  //<IP_ADDRESS>/uTorrent /media/uTorrent
[17:00] <roland> eviljames: isn't it possible to forward entire X screen somehow?
[17:01] <donnib> sacarlson: i tried that and i just tried it again, it asks for password
[17:01] <wmp> bastidrazor: so, why on this page is links to 10.04.1?
[17:01] <PeaceMaker> How to check ufw rules while ufw is inactive?
[17:01] <donnib> sacarlson: and there is no password so i pressume it's a UID problem
[17:01] <sacarlson> donnib: so enter that sudo password
[17:01] <eviljames> roland: I don't follow.  You're looking to move an entire session from one server to another?
[17:01] <donnib> sacarlson: i did
[17:02] <osinet> some one know How can I reintall nm-connector-editor?
[17:02] <donnib> sacarlson: i get mount error(13): Permission denied
[17:02] <donnib> i did not think this should be that complicated......hmmm
[17:02] <eviljames> roland: I thought the request was to be able to drag windows across the network?
[17:02] <roland> eviljames: no, I was just fantacising of a possible way to do it.
[17:03] <PeaceMaker> Please help, how to check ufw rules while ufw is inactive?
[17:04] <Cody3290> Hello, everyone.
[17:04] <roland> eviljames: what I meant was, we already have multiple virtual desktops, isn't there any way to forward that virtual screen to another computer??
[17:04] <Cody3290> roland: have you tried using Teamviewer?
[17:04] <sharkboy96> !irssi
[17:05] <roland> Cody3290: no
[17:05] <sharkboy96> ok
[17:05] <sacarlson> donnib: see http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/cifs-mount-error-13-%3D-permission-denied-cifs-sucks-463271/
[17:05] <sacarlson> donnib: looks like cifs format is   mount -t cifs //<MachineName>/<SharedFolder> /mnt/Shared -o username=<DomainName>/<username>,password=<password>
[17:06] <donnib> sacarlson: yes but i don't have authentication
[17:06] <donnib> sacarlson: the share does not require it
[17:06] <sacarlson> donnib: but you do have a domain
[17:06] <osinet> how can I restore my ubuntu to last configuration?
[17:06] <Cody3290> I have approx. 100GB of unallocated space that I want to add to /dev/sda1 which is my WinXP partition, but the problem is the space is in /dev/sda2, my Ubuntu partition. When trying to simply increase the space on my WinXP partition, it won't let me add any more space. How can I do so?
[17:06] <donnib> sacarlson: i can go in Network on Ubuntu and i can see the NAS and i can navigate fine without credentials but i can't mount with mount
[17:06] <Cody3290> I can't figure out how to move the space to my WinXP partition
[17:07] <sacarlson> donnib: yes but that's not using cifs
[17:07] <llutz> Cody3290: you can't without deleting sda2. space has to be continous
[17:07] <PeaceMaker> osinet, try back-in-time
[17:07] <donnib> sacarlson: no, it is CIFS, it says cifs
[17:08] <Cody3290> So I'm stuck with having a small windows space and a gigantic ubuntu space unless I reinstall ubuntu?
[17:08] <osinet> how can I do that?
[17:08] <osinet> PeaceMaker
[17:08] <roland> Cody3290: resize ubuntu
[17:08] <roland> Cody3290: and then windows
[17:08] <Cody3290> I did. The space stays in the ubuntu partition, and I can't edit the winXP space to be any larger
[17:09] <sacarlson> donnib: I thought that nautilus used smbfs
[17:09] <slava__> Can I ask a question?
[17:09] <llutz> Cody3290: make unallocated space an own partition. win has an option to "mount" that partition to a directory of your choice
[17:09] <donnib> sacarlson: i just see it says CIFS in parentheses for the share
[17:09] <roland> Cody3290: is that windows in the primary partition table and ubuntu in the secondary?
[17:09] <roland> Cody3290: extended*
[17:10] <Cody3290> Yes, ubuntu is in the extended partition
[17:10] <MarconM> slava__, ues
[17:10] <MarconM> yes
[17:10] <PeaceMaker> osinet, back-in-time is a "time machine" like software that lets you rewind your file system to a previous state. Google back in time, ubuntu has it in repository as well.
[17:11] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Cody3290,  you could always use a Gparted Live cd. and resize things also.  Bt it depends on your needs.
[17:11] <Cody3290> I am on GParted LiveCD
[17:11] <Cody3290> IT won't let me move the space from /dev/sda2 to /dev/sda1
[17:11] <sharkboy96> is there an dock like the mac and were can i get mac icons
[17:11] <PeaceMaker> How to check ufw rules while ufw is inactive? anyone?
[17:11] <MarconM> Cody3290, you can to use Acronis
[17:11] <Cody3290> Acronis?
[17:11] <Dr_Willis_TCL> there can be issues with resizeing/moveing space from a  Logical/extended onto a Primary next to it. It may take a few steps to get it done.
[17:11] <Cody3290> Oh
[17:12] <Cody3290> I don't mind, as long as I can get that space there
[17:12] <MarconM> Cody3290, yes
[17:12] <Cody3290> I don't like having 100GB i can't really use
[17:12] <MarconM> Cody3290, yes , acronis is a program partition edit very easy to use
[17:12] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Cody3290,  you could just turn that 100gb into a second drive for windows to use. that would be the easiest way to get some use from it.
[17:12] <MarconM> Cody3290, and you can to make backup with it
[17:13] <MarconM> to clone your instalation
[17:13] <Cody3290> Dr_Willis_TCL: How would I do that?
[17:13] <MarconM> very good
[17:13] <slava__> I have integrated Wireless controller (connected with miniPCI) in my notebook. But the button, that should switch on it don't work. In windows I have to run special program to make this button work. I've written code that switch on wifi in ubuntu (that code uses /dev/ports), but I don't know how to hook this "wifi" key. What code in which package I may change to make it work properly?
[17:13] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Cody3290,  use gparted to partuion/format the 100gb to ntfs. windows should then see it.
[17:13] <Cody3290> ah
[17:13] <mix22891> it so cold
[17:14] <Cody3290> So it would come up, say, in My Computer, with C:\ and then I'd have something else like Z:\ or J:\?
[17:14] <Cody3290> A different letter than C:\, I meant
[17:14] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Cody3290,  thats how windows dose it yes...
[17:14] <Cody3290> Does it matter that it is in a different partition?
[17:14] <mix22891> Cody3290!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:14] <Cody3290> o.O
[17:14] <mix22891> hi
[17:14] <Cody3290> Yes, mix22891?
[17:14] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Cody3290,  if it was the same partition.. it would be the same letter.. :)
[17:14] <Cody3290> err, hello...
[17:14] <mix22891> sup my brow
[17:15] <Cody3290> I'm not your brow. I'm not even a part of your head, let alone your body.
[17:15] <Cody3290> Thank you, Dr_Willis_TCL.  THanks for the help
[17:16] <Dr_Willis_TCL> someday fire up virtualbox and boot a gparted live cd and play with it and resizeing/making/moveing virtual partitions. heh
[17:17] <PeaceMaker> How to check ufw rules while ufw is inactive? anyone?
[17:17] <Dr_Willis_TCL> well for iptables theres 'sudo iptables --list'
[17:17] <PeaceMaker> trying
[17:17] <Dr_Willis_TCL> try ufw --help and see if ihas a similer option
[17:18] <PeaceMaker> no luck with sudo iptables --list
[17:18] <PeaceMaker> it prints out no rules, but I just added two rules.
[17:19] <Dr_Willis_TCL> if ufw is disabled.. that would make sence.
[17:19] <Dr_Willis_TCL> since iptables shows the actual in place rules.
[17:19] <Dr_Willis_TCL> check 'ufw --help'  or theres always the ufw docs. :)
[17:20] <PeaceMaker> checked community docs, no avail on the solution.
[17:20] <PeaceMaker> Maybe ufw wrote the rules to a file
[17:20] <PeaceMaker> man ufw didn return useful info.
[17:21] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Im not on a ubuntu box - so i cant even look. :) I dont use ufw however.
[17:21] <usuario_> olaa
[17:22] <IdleOne> !es | usuario_
[17:22] <PeaceMaker> I need to turn on ufw for my server, but don't want to interrupt live connections.
[17:22] <Dr_Willis_TCL> thats beyone my experience :) heh
[17:23] <llutz> PeaceMaker: "strace -e open -f ufw 2>&1 | grep ^open"   and look what files it uses, maybe you find the one holding the rules
[17:24] <tyreza> hello
[17:24] <tyreza> there
[17:24] <Jonta_> What's a good way of asking a generic question about "Different ways of using(accesing) a feature of a computer program (i.e. hotkey and button and pie-menu and direct textinput etc."?
[17:25] <mix22891> helooooooooo
[17:25] <Jonta_> It's a challenge to summarize it all in a thread-topic or  similar
[17:25] <Jonta_> mix22891: Hi there
[17:25] <c_nick> I am developing an application on iOS in Xcode. is there a way i can port it all to Ubuntu ? :)
[17:25] <mix22891> Jonta! how's you
[17:25] <mix22891> :)
[17:25] <AbismoNegro> hi. i have problems installing the internet explorer using wine. when i try to install the ie packages the following message shows up:  43%  IE_S1.CAB!! An error ocurred when downloading. Please run IEs4Linux again. Corrupted file: ie6/EN-US/IE_S1.CAB
[17:25] <Jonta_> mix22891: Good. Trying to find an answer to my question. How about you?
[17:26] <mix22891> wanna go for dinner?
[17:26] <IdleOne> !ot | mix22891
[17:26] <c_nick> basically all i need is Xcode and the emulator and iOS SDK
[17:26] <Jonta_> Depends on where you live
[17:26] <mix22891> what is your number girl
[17:26] <IdleOne> AbismoNegro: ask in #winehq for help with wine
[17:26] <Dr_Willis_TCL> AbismoNegro,  sounds like a bad download file to me.  You may want to check the ies4linux homepage/thread/docs.
[17:26] <MSU_Student55> Hey, I had a question about installing Ubuntu on Virtual PC for Windows 7
[17:26] <Jonta_> mix22891: /msg-ed
[17:26] <BluesKaj> !IE | AbismoNegro
[17:26] <mix22891> msg' who?
[17:27] <tyreza> $ /etc/init.d/network restart and /etc/init.d/apache reload : how to script this things ?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> hehe , wrong script ubottu
[17:27] <Jonta_> mix22891: You of course
[17:27] <Dr_Willis_TCL> tyreza,  Huh?    Youmay want to learn to use the 'service' command also...
[17:27] <MSU_Student55> I've set up the Virtual Machine to use a Virtual HD dynamically maintained by Windows
[17:27] <MSU_Student55> during the installation Ubuntu requests to create a partition
[17:28] <tyreza> Yes
[17:28] <Dr_Willis_TCL> tyreza - clarify what you are trying to do.
[17:28] <BluesKaj> AbismoNegro, why IE , you can run FF as IE on certain websites
 i know ie sucks but unfortunately the following website which is for my university just works with ie.
[17:28] <MSU_Student55> I'm confused if this is actually going to attempt to repartition my actual HD, or just the virtual HD Windows created
[17:28] <Dr_Willis_TCL> MSU_Student55,  it would be the virtual hard drive.
by the way i prefer opera over all of them
[17:28] <tyreza> i simply wanna know : how to /etc/init.d/networking restart and  /etc/init.d/apache reload
[17:29] <Dr_Willis_TCL> MSHughes,  its gernally NOT a good idea to use a virtual machine to access a real hard drive..
[17:29] <AbismoNegro> thank you guys . i'll try
[17:29] <tyreza> i simply want to run that two command at same time
[17:29] <tyreza> how to do ?
[17:29] <Dr_Willis_TCL> tyreza,    if you restart it.. it does reload...
[17:29] <MSU_Student55> Dr_Willis, if I go through the guided partition and select to use all of the space available, my PC will be fine?
[17:29] <Dr_Willis_TCL>  tyreza  Oh. You want some bash basics lessons...
[17:29] <BluesKaj> abis yes I like opera too, but it doesn't run too well on natty
[17:30] <dryicebomb> tyreza /etc/init.d/networking restart && /etc/init.d/apache reload
[17:30] <Dr_Willis_TCL> MSU_Student55,  it should be using the virtual disks... check your VM machineds docs...
[17:30] <ruan> are there mouse macroing programs for ubuntu? if not, will mouse macroing programs work on wine?
[17:30] <tyreza> you have to learn first the linux basics lesson Dr_Willis_TCL
[17:30] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ruan,  there are some out for Linux/ubuntu. and No i havent used them
[17:30] <Dr_Willis_TCL> tyreza,  time to get reading then.
[17:30] <Dr_Willis_TCL> !manual | tyreza
[17:30] <tyreza> thanks dryicebomb that's what i m thing but how to script that one ? dryicebomb
[17:30] <ruan> Dr_Willis_TCL: are there any in the repos? i've looked but nothing related to 'macro'
[17:31] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ruan,  i dont use them.. ive seen them mentioned. xmacro perhaps.. i cant recall names.
[17:31] <wavez> could anyone recommend a media player? Totem movie player seems pretty crappy.
[17:31] <llutz> tyreza: write that line into a file, make it executable, script done
[17:31] <tyreza> ok let me check
[17:31] <elHannos> wavez: yep it is. I like vlc.
[17:31] <Dr_Willis_TCL> wavez,  vlc, mplayer and its variants, xbmc, boxee, and proberly 4+ oters.
[17:32] <elHannos> wavez: ...and mplayer of course
[17:32] <ruan> is there any media player which allows buffer configuration?
[17:32] <ruan> mainly size
[17:32] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ruan,  vlc and mplayer have more settings then you can even imagine.
[17:32] <elHannos> ruan: vlc also
[17:33] <ruan> i'll check vlc
[17:33] <llutz> PeaceMaker: /lib/ufw/rules[6].rules
[17:33] <elHannos> ruan: mplayer also
[17:34] <wavez> alright, thanks guys
[17:35] <donnib> is it possible to specify uid for an NFS share ?
[17:36] <ariel__> hi people! i'm not able no configure ubuntu to recognize my internal microphone (im using a dell laptop), some help please?
[17:37] <PeaceMaker> llut, got it /lib/ufw/user.rules
[17:37] <mix22891> ariel from israel?
[17:37] <PeaceMaker> Thanks,
[17:38] <sipior> donnib: no, specifying a uid won't make any sense in that case.
[17:38] <donnib> sipior: what about an username ?
[17:38] <PeaceMaker> llut, thanks.
[17:38] <sipior> donnib: no difference.
[17:39] <donnib> sipior: so when i get a access denied by server
[17:39] <sipior> donnib: either the server or the client is configured badly.
[17:40] <donnib> sipior: hmm....i don't have a password on the NAS so what else can it be ?
[17:40] <will_> Is there a way to change the default video accelleration to XAA?
[17:40] <gimpy4685> So, with Ubuntu "editions" like the server edition going awya, does that mean 11.04 will let yuou choose to install a GUI or not? Will it let you make custom LVM layouts like the server edition does?
[17:40] <donnib> sipior: i do mount -t nfs <IP_ADDRESS>:uTorrent /media/uTorrentNFS
[17:40] <cry> y0
[17:41] <deucep> gimpy4685: I hope so
[17:41] <Pumpkin-> donnib: I think what you might want, is some kind of UID mapping. Do "man 5 exports" and search for the various "map" options ?
[17:41] <sipior> donnib: is the server configured to permit access from your machine?
[17:41] <gimpy4685> deucep: If not then I just built my last Ubuntu box forever last week...
[17:41] <donnib> sipior: the server is not set to restrict anybody if that's what you ask
[17:42] <sipior> donnib: the question is whether it *permits* anybody.
[17:42] <donnib> sipior: yes it does
[17:42] <sipior> donnib: you've verified that on another machine?
[17:42] <Dr_Willis_TCL> gimpy4685,  i think the editions will mean the desktop/netbook editions are going away.  sicne they will be using the same interface.
[17:42] <donnib> sipior: no, i can't because then ill have to do mount as well
[17:42] <sipior> donnib: uh, what?
[17:42] <BajK> I have /dev/sdb and I want to partition it ant format it with ext4, i.e. create a /dev/sdb1 and format it. with console
[17:43] <donnib> sipior: i mean how would i try it ? i have a mac but i have not tried to do mount on that one
[17:43] <elHannos> donnib: do you have access to log-files on this server?
[17:43] <sipior> donnib: so when you said "yes it does"...
[17:43] <donnib> elHannos: where do i find that ?
[17:44] <elHannos> donnib: depends on the OS/Brand your server is running...
[17:44] <donnib> sipior: it's something i believe it is, of course i cannot know for sure, i have looked thru the settings of the NAS and i can't find something that indicates that
[17:44] <donnib> elHannos: ohh you mean on the NAS
[17:44] <elHannos> donnib: yep
[17:45] <donnib> elHannos: no, i don't i assume there is if i enable some settings or i access it thru SSH
[17:45] <llutz> BajK: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/IBM7248-HOWTO/cfdisk.html    to create a partition. sudo mkfs.ext -m0 /dev/sdb1      to create filesystem
[17:45] <donnib> elHannos: but i have not tried to look for it
[17:45] <netcitizen> How to install this gnome theme http://danoex.deviantart.com/#/d3b5s7t
[17:45] <MnCC> when 11.04 comes out, do i need to reinstall or does update manager come with a bunch of updates ?
[17:45] <elHannos> donnib: sry, didn't understand your second-last sentence
[17:45] <BajK> llutz: hm I need to crate a partiton table, is this possible with parted?
[17:46] <donnib> elHannos: i am just saying that i don't have logs on the NFS server
[17:46] <BajK> got it
[17:46] <elHannos> donnib: ;) k...
[17:47] <netcitizen> Can someone tell how to install this theme ? here http://danoex.deviantart.com/#/d3b5s7t am using ubuntu 10.10
[17:48] <donnib> elHannos: actually that was not true, i just found this [2011/03/15 18:45:01, 2] auth/auth.c:check_ntlm_password(319)
[17:48] <donnib>   check_ntlm_password:  Authentication for user [nobody] -> [nobody] FAILED with error NT_STATUS_NO_SUCH_USER
[17:48] <donnib> sorry i should have used pastebin
[17:48] <donnib> this indicates that when i mount with NFS it mounts with empty username which it's wrong
[17:49] <donnib> that's why i asked if there is a way to specify an username
[17:50] <LtHummus> is there anyone that can help with my lirc issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1706398
[17:50] <sipior> donnib: what does the documentation for the NAS say?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> donnib: use the file -> network item
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> donnib: you can add a username there
[17:50] <donnib> ActionParsnip: ?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> donnib: in nautilus, there is a file menu, in the file menu there is a network item
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> donnib: you can specify username there
[17:52] <donnib> ActionParsnip: not sure where that is ? in System ?
[17:52] <tyreza> hi
[17:52] <Dr_Willis_TCL> explore the menus. :) look for a network item. It may be in your native language.
[17:52] <donnib> sipior: they don't specify how to mount the nas from ubuntu with NFS
[17:53] <wtbtr> I am trying to create a usb version of the networkinstall iso image. I am using "startup disk creator". Somehow I cannot select the iso image. Any suggestions?
[17:53] <tyreza> php script can be used for linux script ?
[17:53] <Dr_Willis_TCL> donnib,  they state its a NFS server? Often the things have a web interface that lets you configure them.
[17:53] <sipior> donnib: which NAS are you using?
[17:53] <donnib> sipior: Netgear Readuynas NV+
[17:53] <donnib> Readynas
[17:53] <donnib> Dr_Willis_TCL: yes i know that, i am using that one
[17:54] <Dr_Willis_TCL> wtbtr,  not all of those images work as a usb disk. No idea if the networkinstall iso does..   Theres always the various tools at  the pendrivelinux web site also.
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> wtbtr: try unetbootin
[17:55] <sipior> donnib: http://www.readynas.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=5737&view=previous
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> donnib: click places -> home folder
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> donnib: the file browser is called nautilus
[17:56] <eviljames> Is there perhaps a Ubuntu advanced channel of sorts?
[17:56] <Dr_Willis_TCL> eviljames,  not that ive ever noticed.
[17:56] <opalfroot> is there a bug changing permissions on ntfs drives ?
[17:56] <donnib> sipior: Places -> Home folder ? on the web interface ?
[17:56] <Dr_Willis_TCL> theres the ubuntu-server channel and kubuntu and a few others..
[17:56] <looonger> internet explorer 9 has been released but no deb for ubuntu yet?
[17:56] <sipior> donnib: one imagines so.
[17:57] <Dr_Willis_TCL> opalfroot,  otehr then the fact that you cant.. :)  you select the permissions as mount options..
[17:57] <eviljames> Dr_Willis_TCL: This is unfortunate.  Know anyone who knows anything about lvm/ubuntu combinations?
[17:57] <micro__> Guys at you opens??? http://pic4you.ru/10376/760457/
[17:57] <eviljames> Trying to get a good way to go about troubleshooting what I see as a weird issue.
[17:57] <opalfroot> dr_willis, I have it mounted as read write but still nada
[17:57] <Dr_Willis_TCL> eviljames,  nope. i dont use lvm, or raid. to many hassles.
[17:57] <llutz> micro__: stop that spam!
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> donnib: no, on your desktop
[17:57] <Dr_Willis_TCL> opalfroot,  check the ownership. and uid/gid options.
[17:58] <Dr_Willis_TCL> opalfroot,  and the umask option.
[17:58] <opalfroot> yup both set to me
[17:58] <opalfroot> unmask ?
[17:58] <Dr_Willis_TCL> umask = selexcts the default  modes.
[17:58] <opalfroot> ok will check
[17:58] <Dr_Willis_TCL> opalfroot,  you are mounting it by hand? or letting gnome auto mount it on access?
[17:58] <opalfroot> gnome auto
[17:59] <Dr_Willis_TCL> opalfroot,   you may want to install/run the ntfs-config tool,. OR set it up to mount how you want in fstab.
[17:59] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ntfs-config tool was a little flakey last i used it.
[17:59] <opalfroot> k will check out ntfs-config
[17:59] <Dr_Willis_TCL> it worked.. but wouldent close. :)
[18:00] <tyreza> hello
[18:00] <miketomdool> hi
[18:00] <tyreza> how to call a script on a script ?
[18:01] <deucep> Anyone know how to setup a public samba share but have it password protected?
[18:01] <Dr_Willis_TCL> tyreza,  clarify what you mean..
[18:01] <opalfroot> deucap sure
[18:01] <tyreza> i got a script to connect to ssh
[18:01] <tyreza> i need a script
[18:01] <tyreza> i need a script
[18:01] <opalfroot> deucep you need to setup samba users
[18:01]  * Dr_Willis_TCL waits for some actual details...
[18:02] <tyreza> i need an other script to restart networks
[18:02] <opalfroot> using the smbpasswd utility
[18:02] <opalfroot> that allows them to log in
[18:02] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ssh can run a remote command. its a feature of ssh.
[18:02] <tyreza> so what i have to call my ssh connect ?
[18:02] <opalfroot> then you assign them to groups etc - which follows the permissions of the file system unless otherwise stated
[18:02] <Dr_Willis_TCL> !ssh
[18:02] <tyreza> go back and read well Dr_Willis_TCL
[18:03] <tyreza> Dr_Willis_TCL: you don't listening welll
[18:03] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ssh into the remote box and run whatever command you need. or check the ssh option i think its -e or -c
[18:03] <tyreza> i know what is ssh ?
[18:03] <llutz> ssh user@host <command>
[18:03] <deucep> opalfroot: I must have something setup wrong in my SMB
[18:03] <Dr_Willis_TCL> you want to  remotely restart networking on a machine you said..
[18:03] <sipior> tyreza: you're not exactly making things easy for him.
[18:03] <deucep> opalfroot: I added the user but I still cant login at the prompt
[18:03] <Dr_Willis_TCL> you havent exactly read the docs on ssh then tyreza  - or else its not clear what youa re doing sounds exactly like a feature in ssh.
[18:03] <tyreza> i said that i got a current where it is able to connect to ssh
[18:03] <opalfroot> paste your config @ pastie.org
[18:04] <tyreza> on an other machine
[18:04] <danny66RO> hi all
[18:04] <tyreza> now i need a script who able to able to connect on my remote machine using that script then restart network
[18:04] <tyreza> how to do ?
[18:04] <tyreza> that's why my question is : how to call a script on a script ?
[18:05] <Dr_Willis_TCL> if script2 is executable, then script1 can call it as it would any other command.
[18:05] <danny66RO> i need some help...i'm new to linux...ubuntu
[18:05] <danny66RO> anyone?
[18:05] <Dr_Willis_TCL> danny66RO,  and the problem is?
[18:05] <llutz> tyreza: "exec script2"
[18:06] <Dr_Willis_TCL> or /path/to/script2
[18:06] <sipior> danny66RO: custom here is just to ask your question directly :-)
[18:06] <tyreza> that's enough thatnks a lot
[18:06] <Dr_Willis_TCL> depends on the details...
[18:06] <danny66RO> well i have ubuntu10.10 and it freezez after  a couple of minutes
[18:06] <llutz> Dr_Willis_TCL: i don't think we can expect details here...
[18:07] <sipior> indeed, or legible sentences.
[18:07] <Dr_Willis_TCL> llutz,  and ssh adds a whole addational layer of things...
[18:07] <llutz> Dr_Willis_TCL: needs a little bit of reading. too high expectations
[18:08] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ssh - truely the multi-tool of the age.
[18:08] <danny66RO> llutz?
[18:08] <Dr_Willis_TCL> It slices/dices/remote admins,...
[18:08] <n4pol3on> hello
[18:08] <Dr_Willis_TCL> danny66RO,  if you just let the pc set for a while.. does it freeze?
[18:09] <llutz> danny66RO: ? no idea to your issue, would think thermal problems
[18:09] <kheeper> danny66RO: what you need to know
[18:09] <danny66RO> no...when i brows online
[18:09] <PeaceMaker> llutz, if ssh is inside script1, I am afraid it still needs you to input password.
[18:09] <Dr_Willis_TCL> danny66RO,  does it ONLY freeze when you are browsing?
[18:09] <danny66RO> sry for my bad english
[18:09] <llutz> PeaceMaker: not my problem...
[18:09] <n4pol3on> y a t il un français ici?
[18:09] <danny66RO> i always brows...
[18:09] <Ratzinger> hello.  Is there a way to make it not time out and become unavailable until I remind ubuntu that it's a shared folder?
[18:09] <eviljames> n4pol3on: je parle un petit peut
[18:10] <PeaceMaker> then, scp script2 over to server, and run script1 to call script2.
[18:10] <Blue1> !fr | n4pol3on
[18:10] <Dr_Willis_TCL> danny66RO,   that was not how you phrased the q2uestion at first.. :)  If your browser is locking up the whole pc..  that sounds liek a flash problem.
[18:10] <Ratzinger> remind = prefs>shared files> toggle said folder off then on
[18:10] <danny66RO> anyway to talk in privet here pls?
[18:10] <morfeus> ciao a tutti
[18:11] <eviljames> Blue1: I think the first 'merci' should be replaced with a "s'il-te-plait" - but the actual frenchman would have to confirm ;)
[18:11] <Ratzinger> danny66RO:: message the person?
[18:11] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Flash problems can be VERY hard to troubleshoot. :(
[18:11] <Blue1> eviljames: i have plenty of problems with english.  I went to publick skewls
[18:11] <PeaceMaker> llutz, if two scripts are on the same server, you can call scripts as long as 1) the path is right, 2) the permission is right.
[18:12] <eviljames> Blue1: I went to private schools in Canada, but I haven't kept my french in practice ;)
[18:12] <Dr_Willis_TCL> PeaceMaker,  <tyreza>    is the one needing the scripting lesson i belive.. :)
[18:12] <deucep> opalfroot: http://pastie.org/1675378
[18:12] <morfeus> ma che canale e
[18:12] <Blue1> Dr_Willis_TCL: i just installed ff 4.0 -- for the first time since 10.10 relased, this is a stable release for me.  (chrome/opera worked fine, but ff locked up my system)
[18:12] <llutz> PeaceMaker: sure, but it wasn't me asking....
[18:12] <erkan^> !sudo
[18:13] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Blue1,  ive not tried FF4 on anything yet. :) never had an issue with normal FF.
[18:13] <PeaceMaker> lol, sry llutz
[18:13] <llutz> PeaceMaker: i just answered his question how to call a script from a script.
[18:14] <deucep> opalfroot: Took me a bit to get it through ssh lol
[18:15] <Calinou> hi, with nautilus, how can i search including hidden files?
[18:15] <thrope> im trying to run pprof from google-perftools - i've installed all the google-perftools packages I can see but it doesnt seem to be there
[18:15] <Calinou> i need to remove all those .svn in a group of folders where i don't use svn anymore
[18:15] <thrope> any ideas how I can get it? are the ubuntu perftools packages broken?
[18:15] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Calinou,  you could use find with the proper options to find/remove tehm
[18:16] <Calinou> i've checked "show hidden files"
[18:16] <Calinou> but this does not apply to search, the ctrl+f one
[18:16] <Dr_Willis_TCL> I wonder if thers some nice gui to find...
[18:17] <ZenMasta> I made a link to a script in /ect/cron.hourly but it doesn't seem to be running so I'm wondering what else I need to do.  the script works if I run it manually
[18:17] <Calinou> no file found using the advanced search from ubuntu's applications too
[18:17] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ZenMasta,  what does the script do.. did you use absolute paths.. is it using the right shell.
[18:17] <Calinou> oh. found
[18:17] <Calinou> i've found, thanks anyway, bye
[18:17] <PeaceMaker> find / -name .svn | xargs rm -f
[18:17] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Calinou,  find is a command line tool that can do fancy things :) like PeaceMaker  just showed.
[18:17] <ZenMasta> Dr_Willis_TCL its a mysql backup
[18:18] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ZenMasta,  check your paths..  make the script print out some log/info messages to say waht its doing and perhaps failing at..
[18:18] <ZenMasta> Dr_Willis_TCL as I mentioned the script works if I run it manually I've never used cron before so i'm sure I'm msising something
[18:18] <RobinJ> genisoimage: Uh oh, I cant find the boot catalog directory 'isolinux'!
[18:18] <RobinJ> Command exited with non-zero status 255
[18:18] <RobinJ>  << then you're f*cking blind!
[18:19] <Wickedspawn> My wireless shuts off whenever I unplug my AC cord (Laptop btw). I checked power management, and all of that seems to be fine.  Also, my USB ports seem to go off at the same time (USB keyboard won't respond.). When I plug the AC back in, they still don't work and I end up having to reboot.
[18:19] <Calinou> PHEW
[18:19] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ZenMasta,  cron  will not be using your personal alias's or PATH variable. It has its own clean 'enviroment' (i think thats the right term)
[18:19] <Calinou> almost destroyed my comp
[18:19] <ZenMasta> there isn't a crontab for my user, but I thought if I just put it in the cron.hourly folder it would work
[18:19] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ZenMasta,  check others in there. check that its executable.  check its permissions and ownership.. (im just ticking off things to check)
[18:20] <Calinou> done ZenMasta, thanks, but the next time instead of "/", say "directory"
[18:20] <lojack> Does anyone know how to _completely_ prevent swap from being mounted at boot?  Adding noswap as boot parameter doesn't work.
[18:20] <Calinou> i'm not so attentive, so..
[18:20] <ZenMasta> Callum that wasn't directed at you.
[18:20] <ZenMasta> Dr_ it's owned by root, its writable
[18:20] <Dr_Willis_TCL> is it executable..
[18:20] <ZenMasta> Dr_Willis_TCL its a .sh
[18:20] <PeaceMaker> lojack, check /etc/fstab
[18:20] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ive not used cron in ages. :) im rusty withit.
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> lojack: comment out the swap in fstab too
[18:21] <Dr_Willis_TCL> being named. .sh does NOT make it executable.
[18:21] <Dr_Willis_TCL> sudo chmod +x whatever.sh
[18:21] <ZenMasta> Dr_Willis_TCL yes, I've already done that
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> ZenMasta: the extension means nothing in Linux. Windows relies on the extension to tell it what the file is, Linux is smart and looks at the data
[18:21] <Dr_Willis_TCL> make a simple example to try the same thing, have it print a single line to a log.. see if that one works  as a test perhaps.
[18:22] <Dr_Willis_TCL> or comap[re it to other cron hourely scripts and hope to find a differance.
[18:22] <ZenMasta> do I have to have a crontab though or is having a link in cron.daily sufficient?
[18:22] <Huck_> pulling a wave file from an audio disc results in a larger file than ripping the same wave file using audio juicer, does juicer compress a wave file ?
[18:23] <llutz> ZenMasta: a .sh file won't work in /etc/cron.hourly
[18:23] <Gryphon4200> I'm attempting to write a script to test ASCII colors for my terminal. I'm in xterm and ksh. Does anyone have any advise?
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> ZenMasta: export EDITOR=nano; crontab -e      or you can use gnome-schedule if you prefer GUI. To crom as root use: export editor=nano; sudo crontab -e   or: gksudo gnome-schedule
[18:23] <gnewb> Can and how do I 'shrink' , resize an sda partition , I am 10.04, and I really do not need the full drive with one install, I would prefer to re-size it so that I can store documents and multimedia files and backups.
[18:23] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Gryphon4200,  the advanced bash scripting guide has a example i recall that prints out a rainbow test pattern of colors.
[18:24] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Gryphon4200,  but NO idea on how ksh does it..
[18:24] <Jimmymaniac> Hi. Quick question: In maverick how do i give Nautilus a url to open like i used to in older versions? like when i was able to tell it to go to smb:/somewhere
[18:24] <Gryphon4200> Thanks... I'll take a look at that...
[18:24] <trism> Jimmymaniac: ctrl+L
[18:24] <Dr_Willis_TCL> smb://location still works
[18:25] <Jimmymaniac> trism: thanks :)
[18:25] <Dr_Willis_TCL> They really need to inprove that url/pathbar/thang.. :)
[18:25] <Dr_Willis_TCL> I got mine set to always show.  guess im just old-skool.
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Jimmymaniac: press ALT+F2 and type the smb:// stuff and it will work
[18:25] <ZenMasta> ActionParsnip no crontab for root - using an empty one... so do I still have to make this kind of entry in the crontab 01 04 1 1 1 /usr/bin/somedirectory/somecommand  I thought that was the whole point of putting it i the cron.whateverfolder
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Gryphon4200: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-tip-prompt/colortable.gif
[18:25] <Wickedspawn> My wireless shuts off whenever I unplug my AC cord (Laptop btw). I checked power management, and all of that seems to be fine.  Also, my USB ports seem to go off at the same time (USB keyboard won't respond.). When I plug the AC back in, they still don't work and I end up having to reboot. Can anyone help?
[18:26] <llutz> ZenMasta: rename your link/script, the name must not contain a "." dot (man run-parts)
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> ZenMasta: command will add it where necessary
[18:26] <PeaceMaker> Wickedspawn, more like a hardware problem.
[18:27] <Dr_Willis_TCL> or really weird apci/bios power saveing..
[18:27] <Wickedspawn> PeaceMaker: i would have said that too.. but it didn't happen on 10.04, 9.10, or 9.04. (Currently on 10.10)
[18:27] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Wickedspawn,  as a test. try a older live cd. see if works/dont work.
[18:28] <gnewb> Wickedspawn: Yes, what Action+Parsnip stated, I am thinking it may be a power saving program or setup causing it.
[18:28] <PeaceMaker> Wickedspawn, humm, do as Dr Willis said.
[18:28] <Dr_Willis_TCL> also test 11.04.  if you could prove it only has issues with 10.10  that would help the bug reports
[18:28] <PeaceMaker> I haven't seen this on all computers I used (> a dozen)
[18:29] <genii-around> Wickedspawn: You can always try to turn off the autosuspend manually for a device. Like if /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb1/1-3/power/autosuspend  for instance belonged to your wifi, you could: echo "0" | sudo tee -a /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb1/1-3/power/autosuspend
[18:29] <ZenMasta> I renamed my script to remove the extension and relinked it in /etc/cron.hourly I guess I'll find out if it works in 30 minutes
[18:29] <frojnd> Does anyone know what option do I have to enable in ccsm in order to drag my windows?
[18:29] <manue> k ase pintamonaa
[18:30] <genii-around> Wickedspawn: lsusb should tell you which you need to use
[18:30] <gnewb> Wickedspawn: Dr_Willis could also be correct.
[18:30] <[4-tea-2]> Does anyone have an idea how "os-prober" finds Win7 partitions? I need to "hide" an old Win installation without removing its partition.
[18:30] <manue> ola
[18:30] <manue> ola
[18:30] <manue> ola
[18:30] <FloodBot2> manue: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> [4-tea-2]: there may be an option to ignore a partition
[18:31] <gnewb> !es | manue
[18:31] <Dr_Willis_TCL> [4-tea-2],  one trick could be to copy the 'stanzas' that update-grub generates from the grub.cfg into the 40_custome file, and then  disable os-prober. and edit 40_custome to not show what you dont want shown.
[18:32] <Wickedspawn> ill try them.. I will save the version hopping as a last resort.
[18:32] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Os-prober here just finds the same windows partitions.. so i dont even  need it much :)
[18:32] <[4-tea-2]> ActionParsnip: os-prober does not give any help and has no man page and nothing in /usr/share/doc.
[18:32] <Dr_Willis_TCL> but i dont add/remove new OS's that much.
[18:32] <[4-tea-2]> Dr_Willis_TCL: that's a great workaround, but since I don't use the old windows anymore, I don't mind "disabling" it. I just don't want to lose access to the data on the partition.
[18:33] <Dr_Willis_TCL> [4-tea-2],  i do think the grub2 forum thread. has some info on changeing that behaivor also.
[18:33] <Dr_Willis_TCL> [4-tea-2],  you can still mount it.. grub just wont make an entry for it.
[18:33] <[4-tea-2]> Dr_Willis_TCL: yeah, I understand, that's why I said it's a great workaround. I'm interested for the proper solution, though, if only out of academic interest. ;)
[18:33] <PeaceMaker> Wickedspawn, have you tried turning power saving off?
[18:33] <Dr_Willis_TCL> os-prober can get very annoying at times when it finds 5+ differnt OS's you happen to have on your portable flashdrive+usb hard drive, and so on,.
[18:34] <Dr_Willis_TCL> [4-tea-2],  the other fix's ive sene would be editing the os-prober script with some if/then/ type of  exceptions
[18:34] <[4-tea-2]> Dr_Willis_TCL: if I knew how os-prober identifies a OS, I could just remove that bit of information for the old Win.
[18:34] <Dr_Willis_TCL> i wasthinking its just a rather complex bash script.. check it out.
[18:34] <[4-tea-2]> Dr_Willis_TCL: ah, os-prober is just a script stanza? Then I'll find out. UTSL.
[18:35] <manue> hello
[18:35] <PeaceMaker> It could be the wirless and its driver too. http://forums.techguy.org/networking/828207-wireless-internet-connection-lost-only.html
[18:35] <Wickedspawn> PeaceMaker: it is off... I just have it set to dim the screen and to blank it after idling.
[18:36] <jabba> hello, i am searching a detailed and _up-to-date_ how to on configuring vncserver to display gdm on login. Everything one can find on google is not appliable to ubuntu >=10.04
[18:36] <PeaceMaker> Wickedspawn, anyway, you are not alone, see link above.
[18:36] <skullboy> someone explain this line "timings 12714 128 32 16 4 128 4"
[18:38] <[4-tea-2]> Dr_Willis_TCL: the magicke is happening in an ELF binary.
[18:38] <[4-tea-2]> Dr_Willis_TCL: "apt-get source os-prober" will be my friend.
[18:38] <mk> whenever I plug in a new landline, I have to type sudo dhclient eth0 to get access. how do I make ubuntu set this up automatically
[18:39] <Dr_Willis_TCL> skullboy,  you are refering to xorg.conf modelines ?
[18:40] <user730> Hi everyone, somebody can to tell me,  into the squid, what is difference between url_regex and dstdom_regex?
 not quite fbset.modes.
[18:40]  * Dr_Willis_TCL runs and hides from framebuffers.. such a good idea.. so.. badly  done.. :()
[18:42] <Delocated> mk --allow-hotplug and auto IFACE#
 not quite fbset.modes.
[18:42] <Dr_Willis_TCL> well good luck. Its bed time for the Dr.
[18:43] <user730> Hi everyone, somebody can to tell me,  into the squid, what is difference between url_regex and dstdom_regex?
[18:45] <Guest95219> Install or not install: that is the question.
[18:45] <basselito> Hello, got an issue with UFW, says "ERROR: Problem running ufw-init" when I did "ufw enable" but it seems to have changed status to active anyway... anyone knows whats up with that??? Is there a better verbose-mode to use? (not according to help)
[18:45] <wildc4rd> evenin
[18:45] <Guest95219> evening.
[18:45] <basselito> Guest95219: Thats deep! ;-)
[18:45] <mk> Delocated: where do I put those?
[18:45] <wsksim> asa
[18:46] <Delocated>  read up: man interfaces
[18:46] <Delocated> allow-hotplug requires you to run dhcpc manually
[18:46] <Delocated> auto IFACE# does not
[18:47] <mk> Delocated: found it, /etc/network/interfaces I think. I've got auto lo\niface lo inet loopback in there atm
[18:47] <mk> will r/lo/eth0 fix this?
[18:47] <Delocated> what is your device name?
[18:47] <wsksim> Asa
[18:47] <Delocated> eth0
[18:48] <mk> dhclient eth0 works, so I'm guessing eth0
[18:49] <bassam> pls help i got a problem
[18:49] <Delocated> sudo echo "auto eth0" >> /etc/network/interfaces
[18:49] <basselito> bassam: Just blurt it out here and we'll see if anyone can help you! :)
[18:50] <bassam> ok i'm trying to download this file
[18:50] <bassam> wget http://www.isecur1ty.org/download/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6.tar.gz
[18:50] <bassam> but when i download it shows this message
[18:50] <bassam> --2011-03-16 02:43:55--  http://www.isecur1ty.org/download/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6.tar.gz
[18:50] <bassam> Resolving www.isecur1ty.org... <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:50] <bassam> Connecting to www.isecur1ty.org|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80... connected.
[18:50] <bassam> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[18:50] <bassam> 2011-03-16 02:44:00 ERROR 404: Not Found.
[18:50] <FloodBot2> bassam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.