[12:29] <asac> cool this one already has new apport hook data attached :) bug 122205
[12:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122205 in firefox "firefox-bin crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122205
[12:29] <asac> hjmf_: look ^^^
[12:29] <asac> hjmf_: probably the first bug with new apport hook data
[12:30] <asac> hjmf_: bug 122205 that is
[02:33] <gnomefreak> repo should be ready now. please let me know when i get here in morning if any problems
[02:56] <gnomefreak> tested pogo again with java5 and 6 both work in firefox ;)
[03:07] <gnomefreak> debian bug 377178
[03:07] <ubotu> Debian bug 377178 in mozilla "FTBFS with GCC 4.2: C/C++ linkage declarations conflict" [Important,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/377178
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> damn, getting that bitlbee error: localhost not found...
[09:06] <hjmf> asac: yeah  it's the first one bug 122205
[09:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122205 in firefox "[GUTSY]  firefox-bin crashed with signal 5" [High,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122205
[09:06] <hjmf> :)
[09:06] <Admiral_Chicago> new gutsy bug...does it need a clue file?
[09:07] <hjmf> but again another gutsy crash report w/o coredum or stacktrace. As it is auto tagged as need-i386-retrace
[09:07] <hjmf> lets hope they have the coredump hide somewhere
[09:08] <hjmf> Admiral_Chicago: those reports doesn't provide useful info yet.
[09:08] <hjmf> Admiral_Chicago: check the ExtensionSummary.txt attached on it
[09:08] <hjmf> Admiral_Chicago:  maybe we want to find bug reports by their installed extensions
[09:09] <Admiral_Chicago> can do
[09:09] <hjmf> Admiral_Chicago: this one is the first real one that uses the new apport hook :)
[09:09] <Admiral_Chicago> i saw
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe we can toss out the default theme/
[09:13] <asac> morning
[09:14] <Admiral_Chicago> hey there
[09:14] <hjmf> morning
[09:15] <asac> he
[09:15] <Admiral_Chicago> seriously, i think the phone company did somehting
[09:16] <hjmf> Admiral_Chicago: that's the easy think, probably is your fault :-P
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago> hjmf: no i haven't touched my router or modem since I got them installed and about 4 days ago all my computers went nuts
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> including my Kubuntu box, my sister's Ubuntu lappy, and the XP box
[09:19] <hjmf> maybe the dhcpd of the router
[09:19] <hjmf> oops he's off again
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> this network thing is frustrating because i want to upgrade to gutsy but that won't happen without a connection that doesn't time out
[09:23] <asac> hjmf: pitti> asac: just reject apport crashes from kernel 2.6.22-6, it is broken
[09:23] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: i know what you mean ... i had loads of troubles with my connnection this spring
[09:24] <hjmf> asac: ok, that's the reason :)
[09:24] <asac> hjmf: -7 is good again
[09:24] <asac> e.g. core dumps are produced
[09:24] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: i'm just going to ring the phone company, they probably did it working in the area.
[09:25] <hjmf> asac: cool
[09:26] <asac> hjmf: invalidated ;)
[09:26] <hjmf> Admiral_Chicago: be kind, I used to work for a time in a phone company receiving user's reclamations :)
[09:27] <hjmf> asac: excellent, I'll review the other gutsy crashes and I'll do the same asap
[09:27] <hjmf> afk for some minutes
[09:27] <asac> great ... anyone has serious use for network-manager here?
[09:27] <asac> e.g. can test?
[09:28] <asac> on gutsy that is :/
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> hjmf: i always am polite to the help desk people.
[09:30] <asac> my level of politeness depends on the level of niceness help deskee
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> the only time I haven't been polite is when the guy didn't listen to me and kept telling me to try things out in Windows
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> when it was a hardware erro
[09:34] <asac> yeah ... i don't want to remember when i got angry :) ... but it was always justified ;)
[09:37] <Admiral_Chicago> hehe
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> asac gnomefreak: new jabber ID<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> that goes for anyone who wants to add me too
[09:41] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: done (i dropped the other two
[09:41] <asac> )
[09:41] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: please ack
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> ack?
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> wait a sec...
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> i see
[09:43] <asac> still not authorized :)
[09:44] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: i know. its trough gmail and i haven't seen a notification
[09:44] <asac> ah ... you can use a good jabber client with gmail too
[09:44] <asac> (in case you wondered) :)
[09:45] <Admiral_Chicago> kopete, i have it set up
[09:45] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll figure it out in a bit
[09:45] <Admiral_Chicago> brb
[09:45] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: just grant authorization
[09:45] <asac> you usually can do that even without receiving a request
[09:45] <asac> :)
[09:49] <asac> @schedule berlin
[09:49] <ubotu> Schedule for Europe/Berlin: 26 Jun 15:00: Community Council | 26 Jun 17:00: Kernel Team | 27 Jun 14:00: Edubuntu | 27 Jun 22:00: Xubuntu Developers | 28 Jun 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Jun 13:00: MOTU Team
[09:49] <asac> oh in 5 hours :)
[10:02] <hjmf> hey, yes :)
[10:02] <hjmf> I'm out for the morning, I'll be back in time
[10:02] <hjmf> cy
[12:23] <bluekuja_> heya
[12:23] <bluekuja_> asac: :)
[12:23] <asac> ola
[12:23] <bluekuja> ola :)
[12:23] <bluekuja> received accepted mail
[12:23] <bluekuja> ;)
[12:26] <bluekuja> built succesfully
[12:26] <bluekuja> in all archs
[12:29] <Admiral_Chicago> everytime i use it it requires some configurations that I can never figure out
[12:35] <asac> bluekuja: good
[12:35] <bluekuja> :)
[12:38] <Admiral_Chicago> does Tb include support for GPG keys OTB?
[12:38] <Admiral_Chicago> afaik, it doesnt
[12:40] <bluekuja> asac: gonna apply for MOTU membership soon ;)
[12:41] <asac> bluekuja: how long do you contribute packages now?
[12:41] <bluekuja> asac: started one year and two months ago, with my first upload to REVU
[12:42] <asac> bluekuja: oh ... yes then i think you can give it a try soon
[12:42] <bluekuja> (gtorrent-viewer now synced)
[12:43] <bluekuja> asac: yeah, gonna wait libagg to be synced in ubuntu
[12:43] <bluekuja> and I ping my sponsors for the mail
[12:43] <bluekuja> (as cc)
[12:44] <asac> bluekuja: i told motu reception that I keep my student slot for you for another month ... if you are out of this earlier ... even better :)
[12:44] <bluekuja> :)
[12:44] <bluekuja> asac: before sending the mail, I gonna ping you
[12:45] <asac> sure
[12:45] <bluekuja> so you know that you should receive the mail
[12:45] <bluekuja> :)
[12:54] <asac> i hate wiping a system
[12:54] <asac> when do you know there is nothing left you wanna keep?
[01:36] <Admiral_Chicago> added back gnomefreak. thanks
[01:36] <gnomefreak> ty
[01:38] <gnomefreak> @schedule new_york
[01:38] <ubotu> Schedule for America/New_York: 26 Jun 09:00: Community Council | 26 Jun 11:00: Kernel Team | 27 Jun 08:00: Edubuntu | 27 Jun 16:00: Xubuntu Developers | 28 Jun 11:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Jun 07:00: MOTU Team
[01:41] <Admiral_Chicago> yea i'm waiting on the CC meeting as well
[02:01] <hjmf> hi, I'm back
[02:01] <hjmf> time to have some lunch :)
[02:01] <asac> hjmf: :)
[02:01] <asac> gnomefreak: will you attend?
[02:01] <asac> i case hjmf gets on topic and i don't see please ping me in channel and pm :)
[02:08] <gnomefreak> yes
[02:13] <gnomefreak> asac: can you please hold iceape for a little while? i would like to get something in it if possible before upload
[02:13] <gnomefreak> ill look at it today/tomorrow and see if its as easy a change as i think
[02:14] <gnomefreak> unless you already have it built
[02:15] <Admiral_Chicago> i love bzr sometimes
[02:15] <gnomefreak> i hate it
[02:16] <asac> gnomefreak: what do you want to get in?
[02:16] <Admiral_Chicago> http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~bughelper-dev/python-launchpad-bugs/main/changes
[02:16] <gnomefreak> saving bookmarks should prompt you to save and where
[02:17] <Admiral_Chicago> its useful to see changes in your code without needing a seperate package
[02:17] <gnomefreak> instead of just saving it with no dialog
[02:17] <asac> do you have a patch for that or what?
[02:17] <gnomefreak> asac: not yet will be looking at it today/tomorrow
[02:17] <asac> gnomefreak: i think its better to ask upstream to fix this
[02:17] <asac> than doing this on our own
[02:17] <asac> unless its just a preference of course
[02:18] <gnomefreak> upstream == debian or upstream == mozilla
[02:18] <gnomefreak> i was thinking it was a prefference
[02:18] <gnomefreak> but dont know until i get to it
[02:18] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: ty for planet post
[02:18] <asac> mozilla
[02:20] <gnomefreak> asac: are you handling gnash in debian?
[02:21] <Admiral_Chicago> np gnomefreak
[02:23] <asac> gnomefreak: more or less
[02:23] <asac> why?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> baby just uploaded new version but it looks the same as your version
[02:25] <asac> gnomefreak: she uploaded to mentors.debian.net
[02:25] <asac> she has no upload rights
[02:25] <asac> so no need to worry
[02:25] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[02:25] <asac> here package is ment for experimental
[02:25] <asac> i would refuse to sponsor what she did to main
[02:25] <asac> (e.g. unstable -> lenny)
[02:26] <gnomefreak> thats odd
[02:26] <gnomefreak> ah
[02:26] <gnomefreak> it is set to true :(
[02:27] <gnomefreak> browser.bookmarks.confirm_sorting  default boolean true
[02:30] <gnomefreak> that is the setting isnt it?
[02:51] <gnomefreak> asac: is that the setting that would control that?
[02:57] <asac> gnomefreak: i don't think so
[02:57] <asac> its about sorting ... not about saving
[02:57] <gnomefreak> that was the only one i found that would have anything to do with bookmarks, i filed upstream bug and marked LP bug with upstream
[02:58] <hjmf> nothing better for a summer day :)
[03:00] <gnomefreak> im gonna be a little late to meeting but shouldnt matter much as there are thngs before membership
[03:01] <hjmf> yes the agenda looks plenty of stuff
[03:03] <hjmf> meeting starts
[03:03] <hjmf> @now
[03:03] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: June 26 2007, 13:03:27 - Current meeting: Community Council
[03:04] <Admiral_Chicago> good luck hjmf. i'll be there
[03:06] <hjmf> Admiral_Chicago: thanks
[03:13] <hjmf> ...this gonna take long
[03:13] <asac> hjmf: should i drop my texta bout you to wiki?
[03:13] <asac> (too)
[03:14] <hjmf> asac: do it please
[03:14] <hjmf> asac: if you wish
[03:14] <hjmf> asac:  I think it will be enough to support me at the meeting :)
[03:15] <asac> hjmf: yeah problem is i have fear to miss
[03:15] <asac> i will be here though :)
[03:16] <asac> you have wiki link?
[03:16] <hjmf> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HMontoliu
[03:16] <gnomefreak> asac: send a pm to me or Admiral_Chicago if you are gonna miss it just saying htat you support him for membership and why
[03:16] <gnomefreak> that should be plenty, since nomrally we pm seveas as secretary
[03:17] <gnomefreak> ^^^ easy way
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll be there, let me know
[03:25] <asac> gnomefreak: i added my text to wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HMontoliu
[03:25] <gnomefreak> asac: ty
[03:25] <asac> gnomefreak: in case i don't jump in quick ... paste it thanks!
[03:26] <gnomefreak> asac: you got it
[03:29] <hjmf> asac: thank you :)
[03:38] <asac> why do people talk polish in -meeting?
[03:38] <asac> and are not kicked?
[03:38] <hjmf> asac: is serbian
[03:38] <hjmf> dunno but's quite boring
[03:38] <asac> ... i hate patriotism :)
[03:38] <hjmf> :)
[03:40] <asac> so does scp -r follow links?
[03:41] <hjmf> probably not
[03:42] <asac> yeah  ... but still i do a find alex/ | grep png$ | wc -l ... and get about 30
[03:42] <asac> but if i scp -r alex ... i see about 2000 png files being copied
[03:44] <hjmf>  find . -name '*png' -exec scp {} \;
[03:44] <hjmf> will copy those you find
[03:44] <asac> yeah i know
[03:44] <asac> but scp -r should work as well
[03:45] <asac> i am just scared
[03:45] <asac> no idea where those files are
[03:45] <hjmf> ah :)
[03:45] <hjmf> check the syntax of the scp, maybe is recursively coping dirs
[03:47] <asac> its ment to
[03:47] <asac> it should copy all
[03:47] <asac> its a backup run
[03:47] <asac> but apparently it also copies files from withing my /usr/share/ ... dir
[03:47] <asac> loads and loads of pngs
[03:47] <asac> and whatever else
[03:47] <hjmf> weird
[03:48] <asac> this gives me really bad feeling
[03:48] <asac> appears to copy whole disk
[03:49] <asac> interestingly enough it didn't do this when i copied alex by cp -a to /tmp/
[03:49] <asac> because i wanted to clean things up
[03:49] <asac> first
[03:50] <asac> ok now i tarred this up
[03:50] <asac> so i surrendered
[03:52] <asac> ok now i wipe this piece of shit (sorry for my aggressive wording, but i try to backup this system for 5 hours or so now)
[03:53] <hjmf> yeah I know how frustrating can be shit :(
[03:55] <gnomefreak> yay new kernel :(
[03:57] <asac> yeah ... its getting better. ... my intermediate storage was on a broken hd ... which is probably why i got this wierd behaviour ... now i only copied trash ... back to square one
[04:02] <asac> hjmf: how many before you are on topic?
[04:02] <hjmf> 9
[04:02] <hjmf> I'm the 9th
[04:02] <hjmf> they have finished with loco's
[04:02] <gnomefreak> hes 9th
[04:03] <gnomefreak> thats assuming everyone is here
[04:05] <gnomefreak> i hate complicated updates
[04:05] <asac> so probably its 2h :)
[04:06] <gnomefreak> i have to reboot im hoping crimsun gets back to me before i do
[04:07] <asac> ok in 1h I have phone conference about 1.8.0 security support
[04:07] <gnomefreak> screw it ill brb i hope
[04:11] <hjmf> 6 to go
[04:25] <gnomefreak> did i miss the first 3 items on agenda?
[04:25] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: yea
[04:25] <gnomefreak> did they miss it or just me
[04:25] <gnomefreak> before loco teams
[04:26] <hjmf> they skip them
[04:26] <gnomefreak> :(
[04:26] <hjmf> they wanted to ping dfarning for the derivative team
[04:27] <hjmf> Admiral_Chicago told them that he is not around for some time
[04:27] <gnomefreak> oh o i saw thar
[04:27] <gnomefreak> that
[04:30] <gnomefreak> i put my thing on your wiki so i dont flood -meeting with it
[04:31] <hjmf> gnomefreak: thank you
[04:32] <gnomefreak> there fixed it :)
[04:32] <gnomefreak> anytime
[04:51] <gnomefreak> hjmf: im on phone and looks like it will be a little while can you please point them to the thing i left on your wiki?
[04:52] <hjmf> sure, but it gonna take a bit long there are still 3 before
[04:54] <gnomefreak> ty
[04:54] <asac> ok ... 5 minutes till conference :(
[04:54] <asac> how many to go?
[04:54] <jerome_> hello
[04:55] <asac> ah ok 3
[04:55] <hjmf> gnomefreak: Admiral_Chicago asac tonyyarusso I'm the next after the one now
[04:55] <hjmf> asac: no just one
[04:55] <asac> oh
[04:55] <asac> cross-fingers :)
[04:55] <Admiral_Chicago> okay i'm there
[04:56] <hjmf> asac: pm dholbach as he already ask for that for people who had to be away
[04:56] <asac> i did
[04:56] <hjmf> asac: ty
[04:58] <jerome_> i would like to join the ubuntu-mozillateam
[04:59] <hjmf> Admiral_Chicago: ty
[05:07] <gnomefreak> what did i miss?
[05:08] <gnomefreak> hjmf: did you not go this time?
[05:09] <Admiral_Chicago> no i think they are ajourning
[05:09] <Admiral_Chicago> there is another meeting
[05:09] <gnomefreak> they are
[05:09] <asac> hjmf: hmmm ok
[05:09] <asac> jerome_: hey ... let us know what you like to do?
[05:09] <Admiral_Chicago> sucks...sorry hjmf
[05:10] <jerome_> asac : well I think bug triaging would be a good start
[05:10] <asac> jerome_: beginner or advanced?
[05:10] <Admiral_Chicago> that would be a good start
[05:10] <hjmf> yeah I could made this evening for this, probable next time will be more difficult
[05:10] <asac> hjmf: usually CC meetings are late at night
[05:10] <jerome_> asac : well I don't really know, have a look : https://bugs.launchpad.net/~jerome-guelfucci
[05:10] <asac> hjmf: this time was an exception imo
[05:11] <hjmf> let's hope :(
[05:11] <asac> jerome_: looks good .... please read the page about tags and states on the wiki
[05:11] <asac> we have a slightly refined bug workflow
[05:12] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/States
[05:12] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Tags
[05:13] <jerome_> asac : ok I'm reading
[05:14] <asac> jerome_: might not be 100% up-to-date ... but should give you the idea
[05:15] <asac> jerome_: actually all tags are associated with a more a less similar/recurring task ... so mt-needtestcase for instance tags bugs that triagers can work on to get a good testcase out of them
[05:16] <asac> and until there is a step-by-step instruciton the bug cannot move forward ... et al
[05:16] <jerome_> asac : i see
[05:16] <asac> just let me know if there is something not comprehensible from tex
[05:16] <asac> t
[05:16] <jerome_> asac : ok, the basic status of launchpad are not precise enough ?
[05:17] <gnomefreak> thats right i forgot there was the kernel-team meeting 2hours after CC
[05:17] <asac> jerome_: yes
[05:17] <asac> they don't let you pick a task
[05:17] <jerome_> asac : ok perfect
[05:17] <asac> jerome_: as a side effect we can discover triaging-bugs
[05:17] <asac> e.g. bugs that have been bounced to other state by people that don't know what they do
[05:18] <jerome_> asac : like me two days ago :)
[05:18] <asac> e.g. if you have a not valid tag state combination on a bug the bug should be reviewed by a mozillateam triager
[05:18] <asac> ah :)
[05:18] <jerome_> ok i understand
[05:18] <asac> jerome_: i think i discovered you in maillogs though
[05:18] <asac> jerome_: for instance we have a bughelper result
[05:18] <asac> http://daniel.holba.ch/bugs/firefox.html
[05:19] <asac> 'Wrong Status/Tag-Combination for Status 'Confirmed'' .. those are bugs that are candidates to be triaging bugs
[05:19] <asac> howevever bughelper is not perfect and if there are multiple tasks associated with a bug it gets confused
[05:19] <asac> so there are false-positives in that list
[05:19] <jerome_> asac : ok, this gets updated automatically ?
[05:19] <asac> jerome_: yes
[05:19] <asac> every 3 hours or so
[05:19] <jerome_> asac : great !
[05:20] <asac> jerome_: for instance http://launchpad.net/bugs/73536 ... this might be a false-positive
[05:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 73536 in firefox "MASTER Firefox crashes on instant X server shutdown" [Medium,In progress]
[05:20] <asac> because its in progress + confirmed
[05:20] <asac> anyway ... that list gives a good starter where to clean things up
[05:20] <asac> e.g. look at bugs with wrong state and see whats going on
[05:21] <asac> maybe it has been confirmed by some user ... without any request to get a testcase et al
[05:21] <jerome_> ok
[05:21] <Admiral_Chicago> you could use bug 122309 as an example
[05:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122309 in firefox "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122309
[05:21] <jerome_> i will read this carefully and then start working :)
[05:21] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm away
[05:22] <asac> jerome_: yes just triage right away
[05:22] <asac> if we see any bugs in the way you work we will let you know :)
[05:22] <jerome_> asac : ok perfect
[05:22] <asac> jerome_: another important tag is mt-upstream
[05:23] <asac> those need to be searched in bugzilla
[05:23] <asac> and if you tried hard but didn't find a duplicate comment this in bug
[05:23] <asac> when 2-3 triagers have done this we gonna move tag to mt-postupstream
[05:23] <jerome_> ok
[05:23] <jerome_> that well organised !
[05:23] <asac> jerome_: anyway .. just go ahead ;)
[05:23] <jerome_> *that's
[05:24] <asac> there are too many bugs for firefox ... and if we don't do it this way, bugs might get lost in the noise ... and never processed :)
[05:24] <jerome_> asac : ok I will try to do my best, I will start tomorrow (have a few bugs to report upstream)
[05:24] <gnomefreak> asac: what are we doing with gtk_relize, we cant fix in feisty at all seeing as this is a totem code issue do we look on gnomes bugzilla for upstream?
[05:24] <jerome_> asac : well i can see that
[05:25] <gnomefreak> example bug 91334
[05:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 91334 in firefox "MASTER (variant) Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]   " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91334
[05:28] <hjmf> I'm off for a while, thank you all for staying around for the meeting. You rock :)
[05:28] <gnomefreak> also seems to be fixed in gutsy
[05:33] <asac> hjmf: cu ... and sorry
[05:33] <asac> hjmf: i should have encouraged you earlier ... then you would have been further on top of the list
[05:40] <gnomefreak> this is odd
[05:46] <gnomefreak> theme manager freezes :(
[05:46] <asac> gnome?
[05:46] <gnomefreak> yeah
[05:47] <gnomefreak> its called appearence
[05:47] <asac> gnomefreak: gtk_style_realize was fixed in gutsy?
[05:47] <gnomefreak> no matter how i open it it never fully loads
[05:47] <gnomefreak> asac: as far as i can tell when it wasnt freezing but now i cant test it as i cant get theme to open fullly
[05:51] <asac> ok monitor is now plugged elsewhere ... so expect no response until gutsy install is done
[05:59] <hjmf> asac: it was just bad luck :)
[06:00] <hjmf> 533 open reports, we just need to close 34 for a new record < 500 :)
[06:03] <gnomefreak> Host 'GutsyGibbon', running Linux 2.6.22-7-generic - Cpu0: Intel 1681 MHz; Up: 1:53; Users: 3; Load: 0.18; Free: [Mem: 9/249 Mio]  [Swap: 611/729 Mio]  [/: 17889/37872 Mio] ; Vpenis: 31.1 cm;
[06:14] <bluekuja> hjmf, heya!
[06:15] <bluekuja> new member?
[06:19] <hjmf> bluekuja: nope, the meeting got out of time before my turn, bad luck :/
[06:19] <bluekuja> awwwww
[06:19] <bluekuja> when there will be next cc meeting?
[06:19] <bluekuja> (to be decided?)
[06:19] <hjmf> yes
[06:19] <bluekuja> where's asac?
[06:20] <bluekuja> gonna be away for whole evening/night?
[06:33] <asac> bluekuja: of course not
[06:33] <bluekuja> haha
[06:33] <bluekuja> :)
[06:33] <asac> i am installing gutsy on my old system
[06:33] <bluekuja> oh :D
[06:33] <asac> hjmf: yuhuu
[06:33] <asac> 500 ... that would be a dream
[06:34] <hjmf> we are close to it :)
[06:34] <bluekuja> asac: I've started putting down some lines for the mail
[06:34] <bluekuja> it has to be perfect in every point
[07:15] <asac> hjmf: lets accelerate ... tribe-2 will have apport enabled
[07:15] <asac> hurry hurry
[07:48] <gnomefreak> asac: remember what app was crashing on me after the glib warning?
[07:48] <asac> vlc
[07:49] <gnomefreak> ty
[07:55] <hjmf> asac: cool :P
[07:55] <asac> actually i have the feeling that the apport package my system is currently pulling has it already enabled
[07:55] <asac> ... so maybe we will not make the 500
[08:05] <hjmf> asac: noticed a bunch of crashes
[08:05] <hjmf> let's have fun
[08:05] <hjmf> asac: I've filed bug 122374
[08:05] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122374 in gxine "added Xb-Npp-xxx tags accordingly to "firefox distro add-on suport" spec" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122374
[08:05] <hjmf> for gxineplugin
[08:07] <hjmf> asac: 2 of the three new crashes are from people with kernel 2.6.22-6 so I'll reject them, but one is from kernel 2.6.22-7 and it doesn't have coredump nor retraces either
[08:08] <hjmf> that one is bug 122350
[08:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122350 in firefox "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122350
[08:10] <asac> hjmf: really?
[08:11] <hjmf> yep, maybe the kernel issue is not fixed on -7
[08:13] <asac> hjmf: why is there no apport hoook info?
[08:13] <asac> what firefox package introduced those?
[08:14] <hjmf> the last one
[08:14] <hjmf> they dont seem to have attached our hook
[08:15] <asac> who is they?
[08:15] <asac> i mean ... we ship the hook ;)
[08:15] <hjmf> <IP_ADDRESS>+2-0ubuntu2
[08:16] <asac> hmmm maybe attaching for him was broken?
[08:16] <hjmf> btw apport was updated today too
[08:16] <asac> hmm ... i think i know what todo :) ... make firefox crash ;)
[08:16] <asac> i have a testing i386 gutsy system finally ;)
[08:18] <hjmf> I would do a test too, but from the chroot the kernel will be feisty's one
[08:19] <asac> right ... i tried virtualbox now
[08:19] <asac> but it didn't get a boot record installed :(
[08:33] <hjmf> a non crash collects right the info (bug 122388) but it is a feisty kernel though
[08:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122388 in firefox "gutsy report" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122388
[08:35] <asac> hjmf: maybe its a bug in apport
[08:35] <asac> lets observer
[08:35] <asac> i will have to switch monitors as apparently i need a running x session
[08:35] <asac> to use totem
[08:35] <asac> plugin
[08:43] <asac_the_gibbon> hjmf 122393
[08:43] <asac_the_gibbon> bug 122393
[08:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122393 in firefox "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122393
[08:44] <asac_the_gibbon> damn gutsy fonts are really huge
[08:46] <asac> hmm
[08:47] <asac> hjmf: i think we should really try to get the most duped bugs into the auto-dupe database
[08:47] <asac> otherwise we run into problems :/
[08:58] <asac> ok break for a few
[09:37] <asac> hjmf: maybe we should also add if beryl or compiz is running
[09:37] <asac> i just tried desktop effects and i couldn't resize a window
[09:37] <asac> so bugs like Bug 120351
[09:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120351 in firefox "My Email and firefox browser cannot be minimised on to the task bar and when i close it i have to restart computer to open another browser." [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120351
[09:38] <asac> might be just desktop effects related
[09:38] <asac> just as an example (this issue might as well be due to something else)
[10:01] <gnomefreak> bug 122252
[10:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122252 in alsa-lib "libasound2: user unfriendly update message re. default card" [Wishlist,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122252
[10:02] <gnomefreak> i wondered why that happened :)
[10:03] <gnomefreak> network-mangler is uploaded that means freeze should be soon
[10:05] <gnomefreak> if i get time tonight or remember for tomorrow i will add a few other debugging things exabmple turn off beryl/compiz and see if it goes away to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/
[10:05] <gnomefreak> they both cause usiblity issues
[10:07] <hjmf> asac: that was a huge report :)
[10:11] <gnomefreak> asac: did your java packages end up in feisty?
[10:13] <asac> hjmf: huge?
[10:13] <asac> gnomefreak: they are not ment to land in official feisty
[10:13] <hjmf> I meant with all the attached stuff etc...
[10:13] <hjmf> :)
[10:13] <asac> gnomefreak: they fix a gutsy only issue
[10:13] <asac> hjmf: yeah right
[10:13] <gnomefreak> asac: thought so
[10:14] <asac> hjmf: i think we should attach more :)
[10:14] <asac> hjmf: xorg.conf :)
[10:14] <hjmf> yeah I'm thinking about how to determine the wm running, but I guess I'm too tired now :)
[10:14] <asac> gnomefreak: they are only needed for preview archive users
[10:15] <hjmf> ah xorg.conf
[10:15] <hjmf> yeah
[10:15] <asac> hjmf: yes ... wm?
[10:15] <asac> or desktop environment?
[10:15] <hjmf> window manager
[10:15] <hjmf> or desktop environment
[10:15] <hjmf> I was thinking in metacity vs beryl vs compiz
[10:16] <hjmf> because of those reports about maximize/minimize stuff ...
[10:17] <asac> yes ... hard to say
[10:17] <asac> probably some X11 call ;)
[10:17] <asac> the answer might be a solution for other things that need to determine what is running atm
[10:18] <hjmf> yes, a ps tree or something
[10:18] <asac> hmm
[10:18] <asac> probably won't work
[10:18] <asac> more likely lsof :)
[10:19] <asac> you can have multiple X sessions open by same user at same time
[10:19] <asac> you have to figure out what is running on current display
[10:20] <asac> lsof would be hacky ... which is why i thought maybe there is a x11 call that gives you meta info about display or applications on display
[10:20] <hjmf> yes, that's why I havent figure anything yet
[10:20] <asac> as i said: its a more or less long-standing problem to do it proper ;)
[10:21] <hjmf> :)
[10:21] <asac> though probably there was not just enough efford to find a solution
[10:21] <asac> should be doable ;)
[10:25] <gnomefreak> asac: we didnt get java6 update 1 yet :(
[10:25] <asac> we didn't ?
[10:25] <asac> where?
[10:25] <gnomefreak> i dont think so
[10:26] <asac> in gutsy?
[10:26] <gnomefreak> !info sun-java6-bin gutsy
[10:26] <ubotu> sun-java6-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture dependent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-2ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 25604 kB, installed size 76684 kB
[10:26] <gnomefreak> its 6.00-2
[10:26] <gnomefreak> im assuming thats version 6.00 debian 2 ubuntu3
[10:27] <asac> gnomefreak: is it stuck in queue or what=?
[10:27] <asac> its built
[10:27] <asac> according to lp
[10:27] <asac> on i386
[10:27] <asac> and amd64
[10:27] <gnomefreak> asac: dont know i dont have the links
[10:27] <gnomefreak> cant find NEW anymore
[10:27] <asac> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue
[10:28] <asac> !newqueue
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newqueue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <asac> :)
[10:28] <gnomefreak> ty
[10:28] <asac> !newqueue is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue
[10:28] <ubotu> I'll remember that, asac
[10:28] <asac> !newqueue
[10:28] <ubotu> newqueue is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue
[10:29] <gnomefreak> ty
[10:30] <gnomefreak> 6-00-2ubuntu3  Release   2007-06-25 10:43:58 EDT  2007-06-25
[10:30] <asac> its in there?
[10:30] <gnomefreak> the only sun-java in any of them is just in done
[10:31] <asac> gnomefreak: its there for me
[10:31] <gnomefreak> i will try a better search but sun-java search should have found it i would think
[10:31] <gnomefreak> asac: in NEW?
[10:31] <asac> (gutsy)asac@hector:~/mozilla/trunk/mozilla$ apt-cache show sun-java6-bin | grep Version
[10:31] <asac> Version: 6-00-2ubuntu3
[10:31] <asac> in archive
[10:31] <asac> (gutsy)root@hector:/home/asac/mozilla/trunk/mozilla# apt-cache policy sun-java6-bin
[10:32] <asac> sun-java6-bin:
[10:32] <gnomefreak> that is no update 1 is it?
[10:32] <asac>   Installed: 6-00-2ubuntu2
[10:32] <asac>   Candidate: 6-00-2ubuntu3
[10:32] <asac>   Version table:
[10:32] <asac>      6-00-2ubuntu3 0
[10:32] <asac>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/multiverse Packages
[10:32] <asac>  *** 6-00-2ubuntu2 0
[10:32] <asac>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[10:32] <asac> probably your archive is not in sync
[10:32] <asac> use archive.ubuntu.com
[10:32] <asac> i switched because network-manager took too long to come to de.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:32] <gnomefreak> asac: that is not update 1 is it?
[10:32] <asac> he?
[10:32] <asac> i don't understand
[10:32] <gnomefreak> java 6 update 1 is out from java
[10:33] <asac> no ... no new java upstream
[10:33] <asac> just fix for firefox plugin
[10:33] <asac> new java upstream will go in soon
[10:33] <asac> right after tribe-2 is out
[10:33] <gnomefreak> asac: thats what i was wondering if new upstream was in yet
[10:34] <asac> ah
[10:34] <asac> no
[10:37] <hjmf> night guys
[10:46] <bluekuja> asac: mail is ready. gonna send it tomorrow
[10:46] <bluekuja> evening
[10:46] <bluekuja> :)
[11:05] <bluekuja> asac: night
[11:05] <bluekuja> cu tomorrow
[11:05] <bluekuja> (great day)
[11:05] <bluekuja> :D
[11:39] <gnomefreak> i hate this
[11:40] <gnomefreak> remind me NEVER to file another bug :(
[11:40] <JenFraggle> what's wrong?
[11:40] <gnomefreak> bug 122330
[11:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122330 in gnome-control-center "[Gutsy]  Gnome Appearance windows freezes and fails to finish loading " [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122330
[11:40] <gnomefreak> look how many attachments and still working on them
[11:41] <JenFraggle> bless
[11:42] <JenFraggle> think of how good you will feel when it is fixed
[12:03] <gnomefreak> bbs need smoke


[14:41] <awilkins> Is this the right kind of place to talk about development on the Windows client?
[14:42] <awilkins> I was thinking that if no-one already wrote it, I could cook up the "automatic sync when files change" feature this afternoon, having had a little experience of the equivalent of inotify on Windows.
[14:42]  * awilkins will be back in a mo
[14:58] <kklimonda> awilkins: there is already a beta windows client
[14:59] <kklimonda> awilkins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Windows
[15:01] <awilkins> kklimonda: I'm aware of that ; I'm looking at the "upcoming feature" list, the top one is "automatic syncs when the files are updated" and presuming that this is not a feature so far because the software uses inotify on Linux and Windows has a different API ; since I've written code that use the Windows equivalent I was wondering if someone was already working on it, and if not, whether I could contribute.
[15:08] <kklimonda> awilkins: ah, the guy who's working on the windows client isn't here, you should try to catch him (or other Canonical employees) tomorrow. Hard to tell if someone is going to show up today at all
[15:14] <rye> awilkins, hi, you may want to poke mandel, https://launchpad.net/~mandel
[15:18] <awilkins> rye: Thanks, I also see some familiar names in the commit log
[15:27] <beuno> awilkins, hey, I'd go ahead and try and implement it
[15:27] <beuno> at the very least, it'll help you get involved
[15:27] <beuno> all development is public
[15:27] <beuno> so if there's any work on it, you should see a branch up in launchpad
[15:31] <awilkins> beuno: Yup, just went through the public branches and merge reviews
[15:42] <TrickyJ> Hiee good morning :)


[03:30] <pitti> kees: thanks for driving
[16:00] <Daviey> o/
[16:00] <jamespage> o/
[16:00] <jimbaker> hi
[16:00] <Daviey> Mr Page!
[16:01]  * jamespage looks at his watch
[16:01] <smoser> o/
[16:01] <arosales> hello
[16:01] <adam_g> o/
[16:01] <zul> hilo
[16:01]  * Daviey notes that jimbaker isn't on the schedule
[16:01]  * rbasak should probably be on the schedule too
[16:01] <jamespage> he is now
[16:02] <arosales> and m_3 :-)
[16:02] <jamespage> and so is m_3 and rbasak
[16:02]  * Daviey taps his watch.
[16:02] <jamespage> okay-dokay
[16:02] <jamespage> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 10 16:02:26 2012 UTC.  The chair is jamespage. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:02] <jamespage> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:02] <jamespage> none
[16:02] <jamespage> \o/
[16:02] <jamespage> #topic Quantal Development
[16:02] <jamespage> #topic Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:03] <Daviey> It's mostly MIR bugs which are causing woe
[16:03] <jamespage> So we have quite a few MIR's to support cep work
[16:03] <jamespage> bug 1017972 1017978 1022493
[16:03] <Daviey> jamespage: perhaps someone should try to interface closer with the MIR team to get these progressing ?
[16:03] <jamespage> Daviey, as they are all mine I will do that
[16:04] <Daviey> jamespage: super!
[16:04] <jamespage> and then
[16:04] <jamespage> bug 974584
[16:04] <Daviey> hallyn: ^
[16:04] <jamespage> #action jamespage to checkin with MIR team on expected review timescales for server MIR's
[16:04] <meetingology> ACTION: jamespage to checkin with MIR team on expected review timescales for server MIR's
[16:04] <hallyn> Daviey: should be fixed ind ebian
[16:04] <hallyn> in debian
[16:04] <zul> there is quantum/quantumclient MIRs as well
[16:05] <jamespage> zul: please make sure you subscribe ubuntu-server-release
[16:05] <Daviey> zul: can you action following them up?
[16:05] <zul> jamespage: ack
[16:05] <zul> Daviey: i tried to get them moving today but no one from the MIR answered my query
[16:05] <jamespage> #action zul to make sure relevant MIR bugs have ubuntu-server-release subscribed
[16:05] <meetingology> ACTION: zul to make sure relevant MIR bugs have ubuntu-server-release subscribed
[16:05] <Daviey> jamespage: well, technically ubuntu-server-release is for issues we are blocking on.. MIR bugs mostly block on others, no?
[16:06] <jamespage> Daviey, I don't see much differentiation
[16:06] <Daviey> jamespage: Well, there is a separate section on the report specifically for tracking MIR's
[16:06] <Daviey> (without us having to subscribe ubuntu-server*)
[16:06] <jamespage> Daviey, oh - I see
[16:07] <jamespage> Daviey, what magic makes things appear their?
[16:07] <Daviey> jamespage: that is for packages that we are bug subscribers for and has ~ubuntu-mir subscribed to the bug, and not Fix'd
[16:07] <Daviey> ie, just works.
[16:07] <jamespage> Daviey, OK - so we just need to sub ~ubuntu-server to those packages then
[16:08] <jamespage> zul: ^^ got that?
[16:08] <jamespage> I'll update mine as well
[16:08] <Daviey> yah.. which is usually a prerequisite for MIR
[16:08] <zul> jamespage: yeah
[16:08] <jamespage> Daviey, ack
[16:09] <jamespage> hallyn: re bug 974584 - can I assign that bug to you or is there someone else more appropriate?
[16:09] <hallyn> jamespage: assigning me wouldn't help :)  it's fixedin debian, just needs to be merged
[16:09] <hallyn> i just commented on the bug
[16:10] <hallyn> (needs to be merged, and i don't have upload rights)
[16:10] <Daviey> jamespage: hallyn is mostly on plus1 for now.. better someone else
[16:10] <jamespage> hallyn, ah - rightoh - its actually sysvinit not lxc - my mistake
[16:10] <jamespage> zul: bug 1020313
[16:11] <jamespage> OK to sweep that up in the next set of updates?
[16:11] <zul> jamespage: is that in precise?
[16:12] <Daviey> I don't think we can reasonably SRU that
[16:12] <jamespage> Daviey, I agree
[16:12] <Daviey> soren: ^^
[16:12] <Daviey> next?
[16:13] <jamespage> OK _ while we figure that out
[16:13] <jamespage> Still have a couple of FTBFS issue we are tracking
[16:13] <jamespage> I know the genshi one is not moving forward upstream
[16:13] <jamespage> so we may need to spend some time working a patch ourselves
[16:13] <jamespage> so if anyone wants to volunteer....
[16:14] <jamespage> other than that ... moving on
[16:14] <jamespage> #topic Blueprints - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ubuntu-server.html
[16:14] <jamespage> bah wrong ling
[16:14] <jamespage> link
[16:14] <arosales> trend line is still a bit off
[16:14] <jamespage> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ubuntu-server.html
[16:14] <zul> oooh...lets do the time war again
[16:14] <jamespage> lol
[16:15] <arosales> Daviey: did you mention we need re-classify topics?
[16:15] <rbasak> smoser: I've been meaning to suggest that we redo the work items for the apt blueprint once we have feedback
[16:15] <Daviey> arosales: no
[16:15] <arosales> or reorder BPs under topics
[16:15] <arosales> or neither :-)
[16:15] <smoser> rbasak, that seems reasonable.
[16:16] <Daviey>  -Action arosales, update the topics/blueprints? :)
[16:16] <jamespage> Daviey, arosales: please can we understand the context for this change?
[16:17]  * Daviey hands the mic to arosales.
[16:17] <arosales> Daviey: I already put the dependencies on the BPs
[16:17] <arosales> perhaps I classified then under the incorrect topic though
[16:18] <arosales> I'll take an action to get this straigned out and get the trend line to track our work correctly
[16:18] <jamespage> #action arosales to sort out blueprints and get the trend line working correctly
[16:18] <meetingology> ACTION: arosales to sort out blueprints and get the trend line working correctly
[16:18] <jamespage> ta
[16:19] <Daviey> lets have a @daily reset-trend-line.py cronjob
[16:19] <jamespage> I'm not going to focus on any specific blueprints; but I would recommend everyone review ~weekly
[16:19] <jamespage> I've also been using the +upcomingwork view in Launchpad
[16:19] <jamespage> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+upcomingwork
[16:19] <jamespage> for example
[16:20] <jamespage> which gives you more of a time based view of whats next....
[16:20] <jamespage> anyone have anything else for blueprint status?
[16:20] <jamespage> .....
[16:20] <jamespage> ....
[16:20] <jamespage> ...
[16:20] <jamespage> ..
[16:20] <jamespage> .
[16:20] <jamespage> nope
[16:20] <jamespage> OK
[16:20] <Daviey> hometime \o/
[16:21] <jamespage> #topic 12.04.1 Development (jamespage & smoser)
[16:21] <smoser> i believe i was probably supposed to have done something here. i think i said i'd look at our list of items. but I have not.
[16:21]  * ScottK uploaded postfix 2.9.3 for a MRE SRU yesterday.  Waiting for someone else in ubuntu-sru to accept it.
[16:21] <jamespage> We have managed to push few quite a few SRU's
[16:21] <jamespage> thanks ScottK
[16:22] <jamespage> *push through
[16:22] <jamespage> smoser - lets do that tomorrow
[16:22] <jamespage> #action smoser and jamespage to review and assign SRU bug across team.
[16:22] <meetingology> ACTION: smoser and jamespage to review and assign SRU bug across team.
[16:22] <smoser> jamespage, ok.
[16:22] <smoser> http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html is the/one list, and as you can see, server has a nice long list of bugs
[16:22] <smoser> wee!
[16:23] <jamespage> smoser: most of those bugs are also on
[16:23] <jamespage> http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/server-sru/precise-sru.html
[16:23] <jamespage> maas and juju specifically have a large number of unassigned high priority items
[16:24] <jamespage> anyway - looks like folk will have bugs coming their way tomorrow onwards....
[16:24] <zul> bugs are overated
[16:24] <jamespage> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:24] <jamespage> any events in the next two weeks we should be aware of?
[16:25] <arosales> OSCON coming up on the 16th
[16:25] <arosales> m_3 and jcastro attending
[16:25] <jimbaker> i will also be at oscon
[16:25] <jamespage> a veritable server-team fest!
[16:25] <jamespage> OK
[16:25] <jamespage> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:25] <jamespage> hggdh, around for an update?
[16:26] <jamespage> ...
[16:26] <jamespage> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:26] <jamespage> smb?
[16:26] <smb> yup
[16:26] <smb> So I have been chasing some quantal regression of an older (b44) nic, trying to get kexec/kdump working in precise/quantal, chasing some 32bit Xen HVM problem and err, that might be all. Something else I should be aware (iow questions)? Oh, and /me being in Portland, OR next week.
[16:26] <smb> ..
[16:27] <jamespage> any questions for smb?
[16:28] <jamespage> nope - next!
[16:28] <jamespage> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:28] <rbasak> I've been working on a hacky patch against MAAS trunk that will make it provision ARM machines. The idea is that this can eventually be adapted into first class support. The patch is currently up-to-date against MAAS trunk, and I'm just waiting on the last cobbler-replacement pieces to land.
[16:28] <rbasak> Nothing else to report.
[16:28] <rbasak> Any questions for me?
[16:29] <jamespage> rbasak, I have a question - would it be possible to get the openvswitch kernel module enabled for the ARM kernels?
[16:29] <jamespage> I believe its upstream for the 3.4 series we are currently using
[16:29] <rbasak> That's something I'll have to ask of the kernel team
[16:29] <jamespage> rbasak, that would be helpful (only hit this today)
[16:30] <rbasak> In quantal? Or do you need a precise SRU?
[16:30] <jamespage> #action rbasak to find out whether openvswitch module can be enabled for quantal ARM kernels
[16:30] <meetingology> ACTION: rbasak to find out whether openvswitch module can be enabled for quantal ARM kernels
[16:30] <jamespage> rbasak, quantal is OK
[16:30] <rbasak> This is for the openstack module I presume? I forget its name
[16:30] <jamespage> quantum
[16:30] <rbasak> Yeah that's it
[16:30] <rbasak> OK I'll find out
[16:31] <jamespage> plus openvswitch is way cooler than doing old style bridging... :-)
[16:31] <rbasak> apw: ^^? :)
[16:31] <jamespage> any other questions for rbasak?
[16:31] <rbasak> jamespage: which kernels in particular?
[16:31] <rbasak> jamespage: omap4, armadaxp, highbank, all of the above? :)
[16:31] <Daviey> rbasak: whilst i remember, shall we have a quick catchup tomorrow morning?
[16:31] <jamespage> rbasak, all of the above
[16:31] <rbasak> :)
[16:31] <rbasak> Daviey: sure
[16:32] <jamespage> OK
[16:32] <jamespage> #topic Open Discussion
[16:32] <jamespage> anyone have anything for open discussion?
[16:32] <Daviey> nope
[16:32] <jamespage> right-oh
[16:32] <jamespage> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:33] <zul> jamespage: we should be able to test if the dkms modules build
[16:33] <jamespage> zul: it does not
[16:33] <zul> oh...poop
[16:33] <jamespage> July 17th 2012, 1600 UTC right here
[16:33] <jamespage> until then...
[16:33] <jamespage> #endmeeting
[16:34] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jul 10 16:34:00 2012 UTC.
[16:34] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-10-16.02.moin.txt
[16:34] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-10-16.02.html
[16:34] <arosales> Thanks for chairing jamespage
[16:37] <apw> rbasak, it seems to be enabled for everything but ti-omap4, and we'll be reviewing that next week
[16:37] <rbasak> Thanks apw. May I leave that with you?
[16:37] <rbasak> jamespage: ^^
[16:38] <jamespage> rbasak, action completed - ta
[16:40] <Daviey> thanks jamespage
[16:40] <jamespage> np
[16:42] <m_3> win 23
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 10 17:00:13 2012 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Quantal
[17:00] <ppisati> o/
[17:00] <herton> o/
[17:00] <ogasawara> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:00] <sforshee> o/
[17:00] <bjf> _o_
[17:00] <cking> o/
[17:00] <smb> \o
[17:00] <Daviey> o/
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:01] <ppisati> Q/omap4: rebased on 3.4.4 (Ubuntu-3.4.0-204.9).
[17:01] <ppisati> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/canonical-kernel-distro-team-quantal-alpha-3.html
[17:01] <ogasawara> || apw         || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 1 work item   ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 3 work items  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-versions-and-flavors || 1 work item ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> || cking       || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 1 work items  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> || cooloney    || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 1 work item   ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> || jjohansen   || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 1 work item   ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> || ogasawara   || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 1 work items  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> || ppisati     || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 1 work item   ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || tgardner    || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 2 work items  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 1 work items  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || kernel-team || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 3 work items ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-versions-and-flavors || 2 work items ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> If your name is in the above table, please review your Alpha-3 work items.
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:02] <ogasawara> We have recently rebased the Quantal kernel to the latest v3.5-rc6
[17:02] <ogasawara> upstream kernel and have uploaded.  This has also been uploaded to the
[17:02] <ogasawara> q-lts-backport [1] PPA to help facilitate testing of the 12.10 kernel
[17:02] <ogasawara> in 12.04.  We welcome any early adopters to please install, test, and
[17:02] <ogasawara> let us know your feedback.
[17:02] <ogasawara> [1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport
[17:02] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * Thurs July 26 - Alpha 3 (~2 weeks)
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (bjf)
[17:03] <bjf> == 2012-07-10 (weekly) ==
[17:03] <bjf> Currently we have 93 CVEs on our radar, with 1 CVE retired this week.
[17:03] <bjf> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:03] <bjf> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:03] <bjf> Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
[17:03] <bjf> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:03] <bjf> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:03] <bjf> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix)
[17:03] <henrix> Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (July 10):
[17:03] <henrix>  * Hardy – 2.6.24-32.103 – Verified, ready for testing; 1 CVE (4 commits)
[17:03] <henrix>  * Lucid – 2.6.32-41.94 – In verification (2 commits) (2 commits)
[17:03] <henrix>  * Natty – 2.6.38-15.64 – In verification (2 commits) (2 commits)
[17:03] <henrix>  * Oneiric – 3.0.0-23.38 – In verification; 3 upstream stable release (approx. 94 commits)
[17:03] <henrix>  * Precise – 3.2.0-27.43 – In verification; 2 upstream stable release (approx. 183 commits)
[17:03] <henrix> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:03] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:03] <henrix> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:03] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:03] <henrix> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:03] <henrix>  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock
[17:03] <henrix> The week of Sept. 6 is the week the last Natty kernel will be built.
[17:04] <henrix> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:04] <jjohansen> gah why is it that pulse audio doesn't play all my beeps?
[17:04] <jjohansen> sorry wrong channel
[17:04] <jsalisbury> Should we cancel next weeks meeting due to the sprint?
[17:04] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:04] <ogasawara> jsalisbury: yes
[17:04] <ogasawara> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> ok
[17:04] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:05] <jsalisbury> Also, I will be on vacation for the July 24th meeting.  Is there someone else that can chair?
[17:05] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:05] <ogasawara> jsalisbury: I can chair
[17:05] <jsalisbury> ogasawara, great, thanks!
[17:05] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:05] <jsalisbury> Any other open discussions?
[17:06] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:06] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:06] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jul 10 17:06:02 2012 UTC.
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