[07:09] <theadmin> dixoncx: You may need to check your /etc/sudoers and such and see if it's messed up, and if not, then just reinstall sudo from the repos
[07:09] <dr_willis> i forget what they called it. but unity 2d is gone because this replaced it
[07:09] <agu10^> /msg nickserv identify 39208323
[07:09] <flintser> agu10^: fail
[07:10] <theadmin> *sigh* when will people learn not to identify in channel windows
[07:10] <nfd> reinstall sudo? Ewwwwwwww.
[07:10] <theadmin> agu10^: Please change your password now.
[07:10] <MasterOfDisaster> agu10^: hurry and change your password :D
[07:10] <tzarc> identify through server password imo
[07:10] <agu10^> /msg nickserv passwd 1234
[07:10] <nfd> quick question while we are here
[07:10] <magn3ts> lol
[07:10] <flintser> agu10^: double fail x999 facepalm
[07:10] <we6jbo> why would you use only numbers for a password?
[07:10] <theadmin> agu10^: You're using some crazy client.
[07:10] <vnc786> dr_willis: right on i m on xp machine and thru that how do i add printer ??
[07:11] <agu10^> /msg nickserv identify 39208323
[07:11] <theadmin> agu10^: Install something that supports commands :/
[07:11] <dixoncx> theadmin: k, am going to reinstall sudo, regular 'apt-get install sudo' from root enough ?
[07:11] <MasterOfDisaster> agu10^: please pick 'hunter2' as your new password, please! :D
[07:11] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/176634/unity-2d-support-dropped-in-12-10-what-now
[07:11] <we6jbo> want me to change it for you agu10?
[07:11] <theadmin> dixoncx: You need --reinstall to install packages that are already up-to-date
[07:11] <nfd> How can I best disable the recovery mode (accessible from grub)?
[07:11] <dixoncx> theadmin: k
[07:11] <theadmin> nfd: What for? It's useful.
[07:11] <nfd> i want it gone, not just the references poofed
[07:11] <dr_willis> !cups
[07:11] <flintser> agu10^: unacceptable already
[07:12] <agu10^> lmao
[07:12] <nfd> Wait, am I mistaken in my assumption that it has root?
[07:12] <vnc786> dr_willis: yes
[07:12] <agu10^> we6jbo, please yes
[07:12] <theadmin> nfd: Well, yes, so? Anyone with physical access to the machine is capable of getting access to your system anyway (livecd, etc)
[07:13] <theadmin> nfd: Won't make you more secure if that's what you're trying to do.
[07:13] <we6jbo> what do you want your password to be?
[07:13] <flintser> tgunr: if youre still running ubuntu in vm, you can maybe add gpu support
[07:13] <nfd> yeah I guess. Grub still will boot anything (wat).
[07:13] <magn3ts> Why are you having someone else change your password? wth, just tell him the command to change it via nickserv
[07:13] <magn3ts> also, don't do it in a channel tab.
[07:13] <theadmin> nfd: GRUB has password-protection mechanisms if you want to do that.
[07:13] <tgunr> just checked, parallels 8 does support 3d
[07:14] <theadmin> nfd: That's more secure
[07:14] <we6jbo> his client wont let him do that
[07:14] <theadmin> Although still not enough...
[07:14] <nfd> yeah, but apparently you can still breeze through them?
[07:14] <magn3ts> his client won't let him send a message
[07:14] <nfd> lemme DDG it.
[07:14] <magn3ts> ?
[07:14] <flintser> tgunr: your vmhost is parallels 8?
[07:14] <tgunr> yes
[07:14] <theadmin> nfd: Yeah again, get a LiveCD or such. You could set a BIOS password so that nobody can boot nothing without your permission
[07:14] <varikonniemi> wow, nice, encrypted search was just turned on for default searches. Why so long before implemented?
[07:15] <magn3ts> nfd: theadmin: GRUB password protection isn't going to do a whole lot.
[07:15] <magn3ts> FDE would be necessary.
[07:15] <nfd> magn3ts: exactly
[07:15] <theadmin> That's a good idea too.
[07:15] <magn3ts> I'd remove the hard drive, boot it in another system, pull the data.
[07:15] <nfd> yeah
[07:15] <magn3ts> If you use Full disc encryption, I freeze your RAM and extract the key.
[07:15] <we6jbo> agu10 maybe you should try #help or #freenode admins can help you with your password there
[07:15] <nfd> I need to get around to reinstalling it with FDE
[07:15] <magn3ts> If you use TRESOR and try to keep the key out of RAM, then I will use the attack on TRESOR I read about a few months ago :P
[07:16] <theadmin> nfd: The Ubuntu installer only provides encryption options for /home IIRC
[07:16] <magn3ts> TRESOR is actually a really cool feature that I'd love to see merged into mainline kernels.
[07:16] <magn3ts> theadmin: I think the 13.04 offers FDE.
[07:16] <MasterOfDisaster> watch out, we have a badass over here...
[07:16] <varikonniemi> you do realize a ram attack is only theoretical?
[07:16] <nfd> not if I wipe the RAM on shutdown and then not stray away more than 30 cm from my keyboard for fifteen minutes!
[07:16] <theadmin> magn3ts: Ah, that may be, but it ain't a stable release so whatever :P
[07:16] <dr_willis> o_°
[07:16] <magn3ts> theadmin: yeah, realized that as I pressed enter. :P
[07:16] <lunitik> theadmin: Ubuntu 12.10 does full drive
[07:16] <theadmin> lunitik: Oh, good :)
[07:17] <magn3ts> nfd, well you could wipe the ram with the key before halting. TRESOR keeps the key in CPU registers though so you can't do a memory attack.
[07:17]  * lunitik just installed, remembers seeing it just a few hours ago
[07:17] <nfd> yeah, but can you do in *post-install*?
[07:17] <theadmin> I'm going with the LTS branch so I'm not fully aware of the new things in 12.10
[07:17] <jackwu> new ubuntu
[07:17] <nfd> oh that's pretty cool
[07:17] <jackwu> when new version ubuntu is going to come out?
[07:17] <varikonniemi> theadmin, its a long wait till next LTS
[07:17] <magn3ts> FDE post-install? No. I don't know how that would be possible, and really not worth it. Keep /home on a separate partition and reinstalling is as painless as 15-20 minutes of spare time.
[07:18] <theadmin> jackwu: 13.04 stands for year 13 (2013), month 04 (April).
[07:18] <nfd> yeah.
[07:18] <agu10^> jackwu, versions are a lie.
[07:18]  * lunitik finds LTS too boring, will probably see what he can break with raring in a few days
[07:18] <dr_willis> jackwu: version  number is the date
[07:18] <magn3ts> LTS is for noooooobs.
[07:18] <MasterOfDisaster> jackwu: April, March? guess why it's called 13.04 :D
[07:18] <varikonniemi> and i bet 12.04 will feel very old in a year
[07:18] <tgunr> hmm, i can ssh into the 12.10 VM
[07:18] <magn3ts> lunitik: pulseaudio broke but is fixed already, I haven't had any significant breakage yet
[07:18] <theadmin> varikonniemi: I prefer stability over, err, newness.
[07:18] <theadmin> varikonniemi: Well, has it's limits though, I wouldn't run Debian stable for instance :P
[07:18] <varikonniemi> yeah i get that, 12.10 is horrible and i regret upgrading
[07:18] <magn3ts> although I keep all of my data on a BTRFS raid10 array, so I'm obviously not a shining star of stability or good choices.
[07:19] <lunitik> magn3ts: I'm really not sure what is even new in raring, hence I didn't rush in
[07:19] <nfd> I don
[07:19] <MasterOfDisaster> theadmin: reasonable stableness. remember debian woody? :D
[07:19] <tgunr> I'm beginning to regret also
[07:19] <lunitik> theadmin: on a server, stability is necessary, on a desktop, it just hampers fun
[07:19] <magn3ts> lunitik: +1
[07:19] <magn3ts> but then again, I don't use Unity :P
[07:19] <tgunr> last thing in log, is trying to establish ipv6
[07:19] <varikonniemi> now that everything works, 12.10 is better than 12.04, but it was a PAIN to get everything working
[07:20] <nfd> 't have /home on a separate partition, and i have probably over a half-dozen third-party repos installed, so sounds like a PITA.
[07:20] <theadmin> MasterOfDisaster: I do not, I only use Linux since 2008 and I haven't checked Debian way until 2012
[07:20] <magn3ts> nfd, I added my PPAs and other repos to a little install script I've got. Adds some repos, installs everything through apt-get, installs steam, etc.
[07:20] <dixoncx> theadmin: Reinstalling sudo fixed issue.. Thanks :):)
[07:20] <theadmin> dixoncx: Great. Geez. Might want to complain to your VPS provider that they broke sudo
[07:20] <magn3ts> I can do a reinstall and have everything back and installed in under a half hour. After that it's a bit of tweaking if I don't have /home saved or on a separate part.
[07:21] <lunitik> magn3ts: most other projects on the desktop are much less interesting these days imo... for developers KDE is nice though
[07:21] <nfd> Funky. Now I just need to figure out what exactly I have installed.
[07:21] <lunitik> magn3ts: due mostly to the transition to QML
[07:21] <magn3ts> lunitik: I *just* switched after going from Unity -> Gnome-shell -> Cinnamon -> KDE and I'm quite happy with it, but KWin rocks after all.
[07:21] <flintser> magn3ts: i'd like to see you setup clean ubuntu and downloading+installing over 10gb of stuff in under 30min ;D
[07:21] <magn3ts> lunitik: the rest of Plasma I'm still a bit shaky about, KIO sucks, etc.
[07:21] <magn3ts> flintser: 10GB? o_0
[07:22] <varikonniemi> lunitik, don't you think some wayland/qml desktop would be more interesting for devs? Current technologies are well represented, there is better opportunities in new tech.
[07:22] <nfd> oh yeah
[07:22] <flintser> if you have steam i bet you have games too, magn3ts
[07:22] <magn3ts> varikonniemi: are you volunteering? I'd love a wayland/qml desktop and am quite sure that several will pop up in the next few years
[07:22] <magn3ts> flintser: ah :) well, depends on if I'm at my parents home or my appt with fiber.
[07:22] <nfd> i've got tweaked config files in bizarre places too...
[07:22] <theadmin> Anyway peoples, we went offtopic a *lot*, this is a support channel, not for plain discussion
[07:22] <varikonniemi> check out #maui-project
[07:23] <magn3ts> varikonniemi: My eye is keenly trained upon it :)
[07:23] <dixoncx> theadmin: hmm, that was cheap vps promo, i dont care.. Actually whats the kernal version in 12.04 server ?
[07:23] <magn3ts> varikonniemi: in fact I'm in that room already ;)
[07:23] <varikonniemi> :>
[07:23] <MasterOfDisaster> flintser: your ubuntu installation (sans home directory and data) has > 10GB?
[07:23] <theadmin> dixoncx: Ubuntu provides 3.2.x, but the VPS may have their own kernel
[07:24] <magn3ts> MasterOfDisaster: he was referring to my steam games
[07:24] <dixoncx> theadmin: k, got it..
[07:24] <vaq> When having fuse in /etc/fstab my machine doesn't seem to update /etc/mtab with the mountpoint from, randomly.. Even though the mount exists accordingly to cat /proc/mounts - Any ideas?
[07:24] <MasterOfDisaster> ah
[07:24] <theadmin> dixoncx: Check "uname -r" to see what you have
[07:24] <lunitik> varikonniemi: I'm not sure how I feel about wayland... xorg is modular enough, it has served us well, I'm really not sure what wayland actually improves on
[07:24] <varikonniemi> x is horrible
[07:24] <varikonniemi> the only outdated sw stack on modern linux
[07:24]  * magn3ts nods
[07:24] <lunitik> varikonniemi: if wayland sat atop dbus rather than a new IPC, maybe I'd like it more
[07:24] <agu10^> /msg nickserv identify freenodepass
[07:25] <lunitik> varikonniemi: Why is X horrible?
[07:25] <theadmin> !ops | Somebody stop the offtopic madness please
[07:25] <magn3ts> Quick! Someone link to the video from two weeks ago!
[07:25] <dixoncx> theadmin: mine: 2.6.36-
[07:25] <flintser> why is every ubuntu channel turning into a "omg dont use gui ohh lets see him use fedora lts is for nubs lololo"
[07:25] <flintser> or gentoo
[07:25] <theadmin> dixoncx: Oh, gee
[07:25] <magn3ts> flintser: maybe we're looking at different ubuntu chans but I didn't see that anywhere...
[07:25] <varikonniemi> there are so many problems with it that they just cannot fix due to design errors
[07:26] <lunitik> varikonniemi: like what?
[07:26] <theadmin> flintser: It's... a pretty sane channel here most of the time but yeah, this kinda thing happens sometimes :/
[07:26] <bazhang> varikonniemi, lets get back on topic
[07:26] <varikonniemi> lunitik, you should see the presentation of a former x dev who moved to wayland where he explains why they need a new approach
[07:26] <lunitik> varikonniemi: you can /msg me if you want to continue, party poopers around
[07:26] <flintser> and ubuntu-tablet was trolling #iphone
[07:26] <bazhang> flintser, lets get back to ubuntu support only please
[07:26] <magn3ts> flintser: Sorry, I know it's a long video but it's worth it: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI5NTI
[07:27] <tgunr> trying to discover what is hanging in 12.10, top is not showing anything interesting
[07:27] <varikonniemi> magn3ts, thats the one, thanks!
[07:27] <magn3ts> flintser: sorry, that wasn't meant for you
[07:27] <agu10^> varikonniemi, what do you recommend instead?
[07:27] <magn3ts> varikonniemi: lunitik: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI5NTI is long, but good.
[07:27] <melody> hi i was just wondering. how do we get into channels t require invitation?
[07:27] <theadmin> magn3ts, varikonniei, lunit, flintser: Please continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:27] <magn3ts> anyway, theadmin is right, we're way OT. sorry!
[07:27] <bazhang> melody, ask in #freenode
[07:27] <MasterOfDisaster> tgunr: checked the usual suspects yet? iotop, vmstat?
[07:28] <agu10^> varikonniemi, what do you recommend instead?
[07:28]  * tgunr man iotop
[07:28] <melody> request from there?
[07:28] <theadmin> melody: You're not registered, please /msg nickserv help register first
[07:28] <bazhang> melody, ask them there
[07:28] <tgunr> no iotop
[07:28] <agu10^> /msg nickserv register melody
[07:29] <MasterOfDisaster> tgunr: sudo apt-get install iotop
[07:29] <tgunr> trying
[07:31] <vaq> When having fuse in /etc/fstab my machine doesn't seem to update /etc/mtab with the mountpoint randomly, some times it does other times not, even though the mount exists accordingly to cat /proc/mounts - Any ideas?
[07:31] <tgunr> ok, iotop looks very quiet vmstat shows 1.5MB free
[07:32] <theadmin> vaq: It's safe to symlink /etc/mtab to /proc/mounts
[07:32] <tgunr> syslog is very quiet also
[07:33] <vaq> theadmin: thanks
[07:35] <theadmin> I'm not quite sure why that's not the default
[07:36] <theadmin> Anyhow, I'm off
[07:40] <magn3ts> This channel got slow after we got chased off. We were the life of the party.
[07:40] <yajnab> Guys my system configuration  Processor - AMD FX-8350(8Core ,4 GHz) Motherboard - Gigabyte 880GM-USB3 RAM- 8GB DDR3 Graphics card - MSI AMD Radeon R6450  Guys if i install any Ubuntu version higher than the 10.04 there is a graphics break in my system. Currently in Ubuntu 12.10. Green and red dots scattered everywhere in the screen over the graphics.. Now it wont boot. I can get it booted from the recovery mode. I want a solution
[07:41] <aeon-ltd> yajnab: tried both open source and proprietry drivers?
[07:41] <yajnab> @aeon-ltd : actually um new
[07:41] <yajnab> can u find a solution
[07:42] <aeon-ltd> i just suggested one
[07:42] <yajnab> Not tried anything like the opensource or propietory. :(
[07:42] <aeon-ltd> are you using any drivers?
[07:43] <yajnab> No driver
[07:43] <yajnab> just made a clean ubuntu 12.10 installation..
[07:43] <flintser> yajnab: go to software sources and select tab additional drivers
[07:44] <LinaSovereign> Hey !
[07:44] <yajnab> @flintser : then??
[07:45] <flintser> is there anything to select
[07:46] <flintser> install the graphichs related proprietary drivers
[07:46] <flintser> dont use noveau or similar
[07:47] <tgunr> does anyone have any suggestions as to what I might poke to kill this hang?
[07:48] <yajnab> @flinster : i have amd driver
[07:48] <yajnab> the xorg
[07:48] <yajnab> then the propietory flxgr
[07:48] <yajnab> flxgr
[07:48] <yajnab> three options
[07:48] <yajnab> wen i select propeitory the hanges are not saved
[07:49] <peeps[lappy]> how do i turn off these awful popup scrollbars
[07:49] <yajnab> when i select the propeitory the changes are not saved
[07:49] <yajnab> wen i boot
[07:49] <yajnab> and moreover i cant boot into the ubuntu
[07:49] <usr13> yajnab: Don't use Enter key for punctuaion.
[07:49] <yajnab> except the recovery mode
[07:50] <tgunr> peeps[lappy] you might try ccdm i think
[07:50] <tgunr> ccsm
[07:50] <flintser> yajnab: selct the amd driver
[07:50] <jacta> Can anyone help me, I have a problem where I cant type the same key within a short amount of time - its really slowing me down, can anyone point in a direction for this?
[07:50] <tgunr> key delay in system preferences?
[07:51] <peeps[lappy]> ccsm?
[07:51] <flintser> !ccsm | peeps[lappy]
[07:51] <usr13> yajnab: Check to see that the fan is running.
[07:52] <yajnab> one thing can i disable my GPU.. i dnt really need it
[07:52] <yajnab> coz i dnt play games
[07:52] <yajnab> then i think the problem will be slved
[07:52] <usr13> yajnab: So there is also an onboard GPU?
[07:52] <flintser> yajnab: it is good to have a gpu in unity 3d, otherwise it can be painfully laggy/slow
[07:52] <jacta> tgunr: where do you find that you say?
[07:53] <yajnab> hmm
[07:53] <yajnab> Ya i have a onboard GPU
[07:53] <tgunr> try that ccsm thing above, it might be in there
[07:53] <yajnab> actually i am a kernel developer and Android developer
[07:53] <jacta> me tgunr ?
[07:53] <flintser> yajnab: try all the drivers, one of them should work at least so that you can boot in normal mode
[07:53] <usr13> yajnab: Are you sure the fans are running?  And at top speeds?
[07:53] <tgunr> jacta: yes
[07:53] <yajnab> @usr13 ya the fan runing
[07:54] <usr13> yajnab: (Sounds a lot like heat related issue.)
[07:54] <yajnab> @flinster wen i change the driver from the reovery the changes are not saved
[07:54] <tgunr> jacta: this is my first day with ubuntu so take what I say with a bug grain of salt
[07:54] <flintser> yajnab: but it has to be more than a crappy integrated chip. for example hd3000 is enough, but gma is not so good...
[07:54] <jacta> I don't think ccsm is the place actually
[07:55] <agu10^> don't use ccsm in ubuntu
[07:55] <agu10^> it's broken
[07:55] <flintser> yajnab: hmm... did you try the nomodeset boot in normal mode so that you can install the drivers
[07:55] <yajnab> I have HD6450
[07:55] <flintser> no quarantee that it works
[07:55] <yajnab> nomodeset - i dnt knw wat it is
[07:56] <MadManfromMacon> What is the easiest way to?
[07:56] <cyberdo> is there a better channel than this to get help on apparmor?
[07:57] <MadManfromMacon> No just give up
[07:57] <jacta> agu10^: do you know where I can look for it then
[07:57] <agu10^> jacta, idk
[07:58] <helmut_> hi
[07:58] <PadNet_201> hi
[08:00] <wiiw> how to man this: /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs
[08:01] <agu10^> man /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs
[08:01] <TakeItEZ> jacta: add "export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBARS=0" to /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99disable-overlay-scrollbars
[08:01] <wiiw> agu10^: I mean how to find the mean of this file
[08:02] <agu10^> the mean
[08:02] <agu10^> !google
[08:02] <agu10^> google-fu ???
[08:02] <sx_usr__>  anyone here have the best site to show how to upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10?
[08:03] <agu10^> sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:03] <jacta> TakeItEZ: what should that do?
[08:03] <bazhang> agu10^, thats not correct
[08:03] <TakeItEZ> wiiw: http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt
[08:03] <sx_usr__> agu10^, i did,  but didn't prompt me to upgrd to 12.10
[08:03] <wiiw> TakeItEZ: ok
[08:03] <bazhang> !upgrade | sx_usr__
[08:03] <TakeItEZ> jacta: sry wron nick
[08:03] <MadManfromMacon> can you all be quiet for a few minutes? trying to listen to a song and you guys keep making noise. it's really rude.
[08:03] <sx_usr__> bazhang,  thanks!
[08:03] <agu10^> sx_usr__, then you screwed up your install really bad
[08:04] <TakeItEZ> peeps[lappy]: add "export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBARS=0" to /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99disable-overlay-scrollbars
[08:04] <sx_usr__> agu10^, screw you
[08:04] <bazhang> sx_usr__, that is wrong. stop it
[08:04] <bazhang> agu10^, you too
[08:04] <agu10^> ugh?
[08:05] <jacta> *aww*
[08:05] <jacta> so lost I am :p
[08:06] <hell_> hi everyone
[08:07] <hell_> Any one plz tell me how i can create a restore point like windows in linux
[08:07] <jacta> Its really anoying with the "same-key-delay" :/
[08:08] <TakeItEZ> hell_: there is no such feature. use incremental backups/images
[08:08] <bazhang> hell_, you would need to image the disk.  the Disks application in 12.10 has that
[08:08] <hell_> TakeItEz: oooooooo thats sad
[08:08] <bazhang> TakeItEZ, sure there is
[08:09] <TakeItEZ> bazhang: what, where?
[08:09] <bazhang> TakeItEZ, in Disks : create disk image
[08:09] <hell_> is there specific command for that?
[08:09] <TakeItEZ> bazhang: a disk-image is not like "windows restore point"
[08:09] <bazhang> TakeItEZ, this is not windows. its the functional equivalent
[08:09] <magn3ts> Use BTRFS and then you can snapshot to your heart's desire
[08:10] <jarco> Why is my lubuntu downloading unity app menu integration for firefox when I update?
[08:10] <flintser> TakeItEZ: take essential backups in ubuntu one, there you have your restore point then
[08:10] <jarco> I don't have unity installed
[08:10] <TakeItEZ> bazhang: does it create a full image of your installation?
[08:10] <magn3ts> jarco: it's probably the firefox extension that is probably referenced by the meta package ubuntu-desktop
[08:10] <vreim> why can i chat here when i dont have internet??
[08:10] <magn3ts> jarco: and, did you apt-get remove unity o_0 ?
[08:10] <TakeItEZ> flintser: i don't need such  thing
[08:10] <magn3ts> vreim: um, you must have internet. Or magic.
[08:11] <jarco> magn3ts, no. I never installed it in the first place. Would that get rid of it?
[08:11] <jarco> I am using lxde because I onlu have  256 ram
[08:11] <magn3ts> jarco: how did you not install it? It comes with Unity and that firefox extension by default?
[08:11] <jarco> only*
[08:11] <magn3ts> jarco: or are you not using ubuntu?
[08:11] <jarco> Lubuntu
[08:12] <magn3ts> might be a bug in their meta package then if they pull it in
[08:12] <magn3ts> either way, just apt-get remove it if you don't want it
[08:12] <jarco> Should i report this somewhere?
[08:14] <jarco> The package is called firefox globalmenu. Hope its not doing something for lxde
[08:16] <Markus__> hi
[08:17] <jarco> Hi Markus__
[08:18] <aeon-ltd> is ubuntu server the most barebones you can go with ubuntu?
[08:18] <magn3ts> jarco: I wouldn't sweat it. The global menu could be used by other things other than unity but it doesn't matter.
[08:18] <magn3ts> jarco: if it's not there, it just displays a regular menu
[08:18] <Markus__> ubuntu or windows 7 or the latest mac os?
[08:18] <TakeItEZ> !mini | aeon-ltd
[08:18] <jarco> ok magn3ts I removed it
[08:19] <aeon-ltd> TakeItEZ: i didn't mean in iso size, post install. the least amount of packages for ubuntu is the server edition right?
[08:19] <jarco> Markus__, depends on what you are looking for
[08:19] <Markus__> the best
[08:19] <jarco> the best in what?
[08:20] <jarco> To do what?
[08:20] <Markus__> everything
[08:21] <bazhang> Markus__, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[08:21] <jarco> Markus__, I intended to ask, what are you intending to use your system for?
[08:21] <Markus__> no
[08:21] <bazhang> Markus__, take chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic , this is ubuntu support only
[08:21] <Markus__> ok
[08:23] <Vreim2k> what can i do on ubuntu that i cant do on windows?
[08:23] <jarco> Vreim2k, You can run Linux software for example :)
[08:23] <bazhang> Vreim2k, try in #ubuntu-discuss
[08:24] <usr13> jarco: You say you are doing an update?  Exactly what are you doing?  sudo apt-get upgrade ?  or?
[08:24] <magn3ts> A sense of satisfaction?
[08:24] <Fuzzles> Vreim2k, not get viruses, blue screen of death and a slow machine
[08:24] <Vreim2k> just made an dual boot for my laptop just to check it out
[08:24] <Vreim2k> looks really nice :D
[08:24] <jarco> i just did the update the update notifier (gui) presented me with
[08:25] <usr13> jarco: I see.  Ok.
[08:25] <jarco> Vreim2k, when using unity make sure to test the "hud". (alt key and type)
[08:25] <magn3ts> <3 HUD, I wish I could use it with KWin
[08:26] <Vreim2k> jarco, what is unity?
[08:26] <magn3ts> HUD is truly, truly great. Say anything else you want about Unity, HUD is really smart.
[08:26] <jarco> Vreim2k, its a gui for Linux
[08:27] <jarco> A desktop enviroment
[08:27] <magn3ts> Unity is a "desktop environment". It's the UI that you see when you login.
[08:27] <Vreim2k> what can i do with it+
[08:27] <jarco> Its the one that comes standard with ubuntu
[08:27] <magn3ts> The launcher bar on the left, the global menu at the top, etc.
[08:27] <magn3ts> Vreim2k: think of "desktop environment" as being like the "shell" like in Windows the Start Menu. In OS X, it's Finder and the Dock and the topbar.
[08:27] <magn3ts> Etc.
[08:27] <Vreim2k> ohh thats the thing i like with ubuntu
[08:28] <Vreim2k> i love the bar on the top
[08:28] <usr13> Vreim2k: Unity is a Desktop Environment. One that jarco does not want or need on his system.
[08:28] <magn3ts> I'm using KWin's menu in the application-titlebar and I'm enjoying that.
[08:29] <usr13> jarco: What you installed is lubuntu.   At home I run unity but at the shelter I use lxde because the system is truly ancient
[08:29] <dr_willis> !lubuntu
[08:30] <magn3ts> So, with lubuntu, Vreim2k, the "shell" or "desktop environment" is different. Instead of the left launcher bar and the top bar...
[08:30] <dr_willis> the lxde homepage has screenshots that show what lubuntu  basically  looks like
[08:30] <magn3ts> there is LXDE instead. It's a different set of tools that manage your environemnt and GUI. For you, the best way might be to look at screenshots of different desktop environemnts.
[08:31] <usr13> jarco: What may be happening is that you have installed an application that requires some of the unity apps and that is why it's downloading and upgrading them, (not with the intention of switching to unity).  The only way your system will revert to unity is if you install the package  ubuntu-desktop
[08:31] <magn3ts> Vreim2k: I'd check out screenshots of "Unity", "gnome-shell", "kde plasma", "cinnamon", "razor-qt" and some others I'm forgetting or omitting
[08:31] <magn3ts> that will give you an idea of allllll the variety and choice you have in linux-land
[08:31] <gau1991> hi
[08:32] <dr_willis> unity, xfce, and lxde have about all your  bases covered for the range of desktops. ;)
[08:32] <magn3ts> gau1991: hi
[08:32] <Vreim2k> thx guys cecking it out now :)
[08:32] <magn3ts> dr_willis: psssh
[08:32] <Vreim2k> checking*
[08:32] <jarco> usr13, Yeah its not actually switching to it. I just found it odd that the firefox globalmenu was installed
[08:32] <cfhowlett> gau1991, greetings
[08:32] <usr13> jarco: And you are correct is assuming that 256M of RAM would not support Unity. (Well, it may run but not very well.)
[08:33] <dr_willis> firefox has a global menu to add the global menu feature to firefox.
[08:33] <dr_willis> its a firefox plugin  i recall. or extension
[08:33] <jarco> usr13, It could run. But If i see the speed my lubuntu runs on I assume its not a good idea. :)
[08:33] <usr13> jarco: I'm not familiar with firefox globalmenu (I'm an xfce user.)
[08:33] <dr_willis> if you disable it on a unity  system - you get the ff menus in firefox and in the top global menu  panel
[08:33] <wildbat> Hi, i am using 12.10. how do i set wallpaper to a folder, so that it loop the pictures inside spanning two monitor??
[08:33] <usr13> jarco: You are correct.
[08:33] <dr_willis> or so i seem to recall
[08:34] <usr13> jarco: You need more RAM
[08:34] <jarco> usr13, dr_willis , I don't need it either. It just came with firefox appearantly
[08:34] <jarco> usr13, not possible. (i actually found 256 more today) 512 is max supported
[08:34] <magn3ts> I don't use unity on my machine with 8GB of RAM :)
[08:34] <jarco> and this non-profit has no more coin for better systems.
[08:34] <magn3ts> although 13.04 gets along much better with my devices.
[08:34] <usr13> jarco: Upgrading from 256-512M will help for sure.
[08:35] <dr_willis> wildbat:   theres several wallpaper changer apps/indicator applets you may want to look into. Or theres som,e tools out to generate the dynamic wallpapers that gnome supports via some .xml files
[08:35] <usr13> dr_willis: jarco is running lubuntu
[08:35] <magn3ts> oh gnome and xml, a sorrid, dirty love affair
[08:35] <dr_willis> help as in a Turbo boost of caffine. ;)
[08:35] <jarco> yeah.
[08:35] <jarco> and I am in luck. It also runs at a whopping 400mhz :)
[08:35] <magn3ts> jarco: what's the nonprofit?
[08:35] <jarco> Animal shelter
[08:36] <magn3ts> Cool, my dad works for a pet food company.
[08:36] <damir__> Hi. Is it possible to change audio volume via volume control applet while muted? I don't like to unmute at 100% just so I can lower the volume to 10%
[08:36] <magn3ts> they do lots of work w/ animal shelters
[08:37] <magn3ts> damir__: I highly doubt that's anything you can manage via that applet, sadly. I know what you mean.
[08:37] <Vreim2k> how do i enable the gnome shell ?
[08:37] <dr_willis> !gnome-shell
[08:37] <dr_willis> !gnomeshell
[08:37] <dr_willis> hmm. thought htere was a factgoid for that..
[08:37] <dr_willis> theres a gnomeshell package you install
[08:37] <bazhang> !notunity
[08:37] <dr_willis> theres ppas for newer releases of gnome shell also.
[08:38] <nvidiaubuntu> hello
[08:38] <magn3ts> Oh god the gnome3 ppas. There's like 2-3 of them already for 13.04 >_<
[08:38] <usr13> dr_willis: !gnome ?
[08:38] <nvidiaubuntu> I am having issues with getting my mx 440 nvidia card to work. can anyone point me to a good tutorial?
[08:38] <wildbat> dr_willis, i try some changers but they don't support spanning somehow. and any good xml gen you are share or point me to ?
[08:38] <Vreim2k> i need to download it from the programcenter right?
[08:38] <jarco> damir__, When you have muted type "alsamixer" in cli. You will be able to change the volume and stay muted
[08:38] <usr13> !gnome
[08:38] <dr_willis> wildbat:  you  need wide wallpapers for that.
[08:38] <dxy> !unity
[08:39] <damir__> jarco: magn3ts alsamixer it is
[08:39] <dr_willis> wildbat:  compiz wallpaper plugin may let you  set them per desktop/monitor. but then you  loose other features.  askubuntu.com had a guide on that
[08:39] <magn3ts> damir__: 'pavucontrol' is good too and it doesn't run in the terminal if that's your cup of tea
[08:39] <magn3ts> Vreim2k: if you don't mind dropping to the Terminal you can just run `sudo apt-get install gnome-shell` and be done faster :)
[08:39] <jarco> Terminal looks cooler
[08:39] <jarco> :)
[08:40] <Vreim2k>
[08:40] <nvidiaubuntu> I am having issues with getting my mx 440 nvidia card to work. can anyone point me to a good tutorial?
[08:40] <usr13> !info gnome-shell
[08:40] <magn3ts> Konsole > gnome-terminal, you can blur the BG with Kwin ;)
[08:40] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: nvidia.com
[08:41] <dr_willis> is the mx440 even supported by the current nvidia drivers? thats a very  old card isent it?
[08:41] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: jockey-gtk
[08:41] <Vreim2k> is there any other guid's that i can install?
[08:42] <nvidiaubuntu> usr13: what?
[08:42] <nvidiaubuntu> thats not a tutorial
[08:42] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: I know, but if you run the application jockey-gtk it will search for aditional driver sofrware, (if needed).
[08:43] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: Is it not working at all?
[08:43] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: What is the issue with it?
[08:43] <nvidiaubuntu> i have an mx 440 what video driver do i need to install? I installed nvidia-173
[08:44] <nvidiaubuntu> but its not being used for some reason
[08:44] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: Where did you get nvidia-173?
[08:45] <nvidiaubuntu> usr13: from ubuntu's repos
[08:45] <nvidiaubuntu> the x-swat one
[08:45] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf   #Is it there?
[08:46] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: Have you restarted the Xserver since installing it?
[08:46] <nvidiaubuntu> usr13: yes
[08:47] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: yes ________?
[08:47] <chaotix> hi..  i would like to install kubuntu 12.10 on my computer...  currently i have two other operating systems, windows 7(99gb)  and fedora 17(193.73 gb)...  the fedora partition is sda4, broken up into sda5 and sda6 underneath it...   i need to be able to take 40gb from the fedora partition to make this Kubuntu partition.....   i am booted into the kubuntu live disk now, and i have gparted open...  but i am unable to resize the
[08:47] <chaotix> fedora partition
[08:47] <nvidiaubuntu> usr13: i Have restarted xserver since last installing it....
[08:47] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf   #Is it there?
[08:47] <chaotix> the fedora partition is on sda4, with 500mb on sda5, and 193.24gb on sda6
[08:47] <nvidiaubuntu> no
[08:47] <nvidiaubuntu> its not there
[08:48] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: YOu probably need to run nvidia-xconfig
[08:48] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: Not sure you can run it with the Xserver still running or not...
[08:48] <chaotix> can anyone help me with this?
[08:48] <nvidiaubuntu> I did, it wrote to it
[08:48] <nvidiaubuntu> im going to restart x
[08:49] <nvidiaubuntu> brb
[08:49] <cfhowlett> chaotix, probably better you ask #fedora how to resize that partition ...
[08:49] <chaotix> kk willdo
[08:52] <usr13> chaotix: Not sure why you cant resize the fedora partition.  What filesystem is on it?
[08:52] <Vreim2k> does ubuntu use more power than windows?
[08:52] <Vreim2k> it feel like my power runs out much faster
[08:52] <usr13> Vreim2k: Usually, yes, I think it does.
[08:53] <usr13> Vreim2k: There are apps you can install that will help with that issue.
[08:53] <Vreim2k> usr13: like?
[08:54] <nvidiaubuntu> hey usr13. Looks like I have an xorg.conf now which uses the 'nvidia' driver but if I launch the nvidia settings manager it says I am not using it
[08:54] <usr13> Vreim2k: http://askubuntu.com/questions/205828/how-to-run-ubuntu-12-10-on-a-laptop-with-maximum-power-saving
[08:54] <chaotix> usr13, the filesystem is lvm2 pv
[08:55] <usr13> Vreim2k: http://askubuntu.com/questions/208207/poor-battery-life-in-ubuntu-12-10-on-toshiba-p755-s5215-how-can-i-manage-backgr
[08:56] <usr13> chaotix: Ahh yea.  Probably need to boot fedora and do that.  The other persone that suggested asking on ##fedora may have the best advise but...
[08:57] <usr13> !lvm | chaotix
[08:57] <nvidiaubuntu> usr13: it looks like i need the 93 driver instead.
[08:57] <chaotix> no one is active in #fedora right now...  maybe omorro
[08:57] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: jockey-gtk
[08:57] <chaotix> guess ill catch some sleep
[08:57] <nvidiaubuntu> usr13: that is installed
[08:57] <chaotix> thanks foir the link
[08:57] <nvidiaubuntu> usr13: what do i do with it
[08:57] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: uninstall the previous one and run jockey-gtk
[08:58] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: or go to nvidia.com and download from them.
[08:58] <ploo> hows 12.10?
[08:58] <ploo> all issues resolved?
[08:58] <usr13> !info jockey-gtk | nvidiaubuntu
[08:58] <usr13> !jockey-gtk | nvidiaubuntu
[08:59] <bazhang> http://ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/12.10   ploo
[08:59] <nvidiaubuntu> how do I run it on xfce?
[09:00] <nvidiaubuntu> usr13: i installed it with apt-get install jockey-gtk
[09:00] <nvidiaubuntu> then I typed jockey-gtk and it says its not installed
[09:00] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: Alt-F2  and type in  jockey-gtk  #Or open at terminal, type  jockey-gtk  and hit Enter.
[09:00] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: Just go to nvidia.com
[09:01] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: Are you 32bit or 64bit?
[09:01] <Kartagis> !find libc.so.6
[09:02] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: lspci |grep -i vga #Tell us what it says.
[09:05] <^DEMOSS^> anybody know specialist for repair my raid 5 on mdadm
[09:05] <usr13> magn3ts: If it the MX440, go to:   http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-96.43.23-driver.html
[09:05] <Vreim2k> any good games to ubuntu?
[09:05] <parapan> hello folks > please let me know what is the case when trying to set a linux based OS and the network card is taking the IP <IP_ADDRESS> ???
[09:05] <usr13> magn3ts: (And if you are 32bit.)
[09:06] <bazhang> !games | Vreim2k
[09:06] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: (And if you are 32bit.)
[09:06] <bazhang> Vreim2k, check in the software center as well
[09:06] <Vreim2k> when u guys say "!" commands where do you want me to put that?
[09:06] <Vreim2k> is it the alt key?
[09:08] <magn3ts> Vreim2k: those are just shortcuts here in IRC
[09:08] <magn3ts> When we type them, ubottu gives you the info
[09:08] <Vreim2k> !games
[09:09] <Vreim2k> ahh
[09:09] <ubuntu-studio> BUENAS
[09:09] <usr13> Vreim2k: Yea, it calls up the bot
[09:09] <ubuntu-studio> hi
[09:10] <ubuntu-studio> bye
[09:12] <dr_willis> people seem to have a hard time noticeing the   cause/effect of ! commands and bot responses. ;)
[09:17] <mrHat> ok, so i'm trying to assign disk quotas on the users /home directory. After installing quota and quotatool I first started to edit the etc/fstab and added the following: UUID .. .. /home  ext4 defaults,errors=remount-ro,usrquota,grpquota, 0 0. All good, saved the file and did a mount -o remount /home and then i rebooted. Now when i try to login to x i get "Could not update ICEauthority file
[09:17] <mrHat> /home/xxxx/.ICEauthority" followed by several other error messages. Then i logged in to console and saw that i now have /home/home with all the profiles there. What just happened and how to fix it as i tried everything from permissions and chown
[09:18] <dr_willis> hmm. anyone else notice these big 'anouncements' like on the ubuntu tablet.. basically are anounceing  that they are going to be doing more anounceing.. and dont really say a lot? ;)
[09:18] <ub1> cia
[09:19] <guest-CSSOmU> hey
[09:19] <cfhowlett> guest-CSSOmU, greetings
[09:19] <nvidiaubuntu> hey usr13 now my nvidia x settings doesn't say its being used but I still can display any graphics things
[09:19] <guest-CSSOmU> how r u gorden
[09:19] <dr_willis> mrHat:  your  /home/ is on its own partition?
[09:19] <nvidiaubuntu> Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[09:19] <nvidiaubuntu> undert: Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[09:20] <nvidiaubuntu> usr13: Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[09:20] <mrHat> dr_willis is what i wanted to do
[09:20] <jacklk> I have a document named "Using E-mail In Buisness.doc" which I made in Windows. On Linux, when using the terminal, it can't recognise it due to the spaces. Is there a way to be able to use it in the terminal without renaming it?
[09:21] <dr_willis> mrHat:  but Is it on its own partition?    i cant think of why it did  what it did.. so im just verifying
[09:21] <mrHat>  no its not
[09:21] <martin3z> anyony try ubuntu with phone? any success?
[09:21] <dr_willis> jacklk:  command 'thing with spaces.doc'
[09:22] <dr_willis> mrHat:  so how can you  have a seperate entry for /home/ in fstab when its not a partition.  seems like you need to apply the quota options to the / mountpoint not  /home
[09:22] <dr_willis> i dont even see how  you remounted /home/ if its not on its own partition
[09:23] <jacklk> dr_willis: so I quote it if it has spaces?
[09:23] <danieledipisaITA> buongiorno a tutti
[09:23] <cfhowlett> !it|danieledipisaITA,
[09:23] <dr_willis> jacklk:  thats what i showed. ;) yes.. or escape the spaces with a \     or was it /    if you use the TAB key it will complete the name using the proper  \ escapes
[09:23] <danieledipisaITA> ok sorry
[09:24] <dr_willis> jacklk:  cp foo<tab>   will complete the name
[09:25] <Kartagis> what's the command to find out what <package> provides?
[09:26] <TakeItEZ> Kartagis: dpkg -L package
[09:26] <TakeItEZ> Kartagis: dpkg -S file to find the package                apt-file search for stuff being not installed
[09:26] <Kartagis> TakeItEZ: what if <package> is not installed?
[09:27] <TakeItEZ> Kartagis: apt-file search ...
[09:27] <dr_willis> ;) gotta love it when you  answer their next question befor they ask it...
[09:27] <dr_willis> apt-file is very  handy
[09:28] <TakeItEZ> unfortunately not installed by default
[09:28] <dr_willis> yea. apt-file has to dowload some data files. so its a bit of a luxery
[09:28] <Kartagis> TakeItEZ: apt-cache search libc* returns libc-dev as well, but apt-file libc-dev doesn't return anything
[09:28] <TakeItEZ> Kartagis: man apt-file
[09:28] <dr_willis> apt-file is for specific file names ibelive
[09:29] <dr_willis> similer to ubotus !find feature.  wonder if !fine uses apt-file
[09:29] <Kartagis> search Search in which package a file is included.
[09:29] <Kartagis> this is not what I'm looking for
[09:29] <rohdef> if I in a libreoffice writer document have a table and want to do a new line after the table  (accidentally deleted the one there was last time I edited), how do I do that?
[09:30] <AirCombat> please help! I just installed ubuntu-server and my nvidia card seems to be really acting up. GUI won't start. I've tried installing many new nvidia drivers but I'm getting strange errors now.
[09:30] <Kartagis> I wanna know what binaries <package> provides
[09:30] <rohdef> I see no way I can select so the character is right after the table in stead of inside it
[09:30] <TakeItEZ> Kartagis: apt-file show package
[09:30] <cfhowlett> rohdef, ctrl-z is usually the undo command
[09:30] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  ubuntu server dosent have a gui by default.. how did you  install the desktop?
[09:30] <angs> I did " sudo add-apt-repository ppa:germia/archive3  " how can I undo the setting?
[09:30] <rohdef> cfhowlett, last time I edited = the document has been closed ><
[09:30] <AirCombat> oh... I did not know that. what's the command to install GNOME again?
[09:31] <dr_willis> rohdef:  i thought you carefully clicked at the end of the table.. and kept on typeing...
[09:31] <Kartagis> most strange
[09:31] <AirCombat> I installed from the newest image at ubuntu.com .. unetbootin, then install
[09:31] <venkannareddy> HackerZedi
[09:31] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  if you want the full unity desktop install the 'ubuntu-desktop' package
[09:31] <AirCombat> okay thanks
[09:31] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  why dident you use a desktop  cd if you want a desktop?
[09:32] <AirCombat> I'll go to another terminal and try that
[09:32] <AirCombat> because I need the server function. just learning. dual-boot with windows at this point
[09:32] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  you can install services on the desktop....
[09:32] <rohdef> dr_willis,  works if it's the end of the document, here it's two tables that is visually merged because of the no new line
[09:32] <dr_willis> its easier then installing   the desktop on a server. ;)
[09:33] <AirCombat> yeah I know, but how else will I learn ;)
[09:33] <kanyl> Anyone know if it's possible to unrar .part.rar files one by one, and pipe them to a file to join them?
[09:33] <dr_willis> rohdef:  so you  need to carefully click btween them?  there is a libreoffice channel i belive that may know of a easier way to do ig.
[09:33] <Kartagis> TakeItEZ: even if it's installed, apt-file show <package> doesn't return anything :S
[09:33] <rohdef> dr_willis, but if that works, I can probably cheat it with cut, new line, then paste, but that seems overly complicated compared to what I want
[09:33] <dr_willis> !manual | AirCombat
[09:33] <TakeItEZ> Kartagis: sudo apt-file update
[09:33] <TakeItEZ> Kartagis: then try again
[09:33] <AirCombat> can I pick the GNOME after this installs or is that a separate package?
[09:33] <rohdef> dr_willis, couldn't find the libreoffice channel :(
[09:33] <AirCombat> thanks dr_willis
[09:33] <dr_willis> Unity uses gnome AirCombat
[09:34] <dr_willis> Unity is a shell for gnome3 actually ;)
[09:34] <AirCombat> I know, but on my other desktop I switched to a different one, I like it a lot better. sorry I'm tired that didn't make a lot of sense
[09:34] <AirCombat> and actually, this computer should handle the full 3d unity better.
[09:35] <angs> how can  I undo " sudo add-apt-repository ppa:germia/archive3  "
[09:35] <AirCombat> once ubuntu-desktop is installed, if I just reboot will it autoatically use unity or do I have to edit the boot config?
[09:35] <nvidiaubuntu> hey I am having issues with my graphics driver for my geforce4 mx 440 apg 8x
[09:36] <nvidiaubuntu> I installed the correct drivers and the settings panel seems to recognize them being used by I cant get any graphics programs to load such as glxgears
[09:38] <nvidiaubuntu> ugh
[09:38] <nvidiaubuntu> anyone?
[09:38] <AirCombat> nvidiaubuntu: just hold on a sec, I just had similar problems
[09:38] <AirCombat> just looking up the fix....
[09:39] <nvidiaubuntu> AirCombat: cool. my xorg looks fine I wish there was a way to confirm waht driver I was loading
[09:39] <AirCombat> are you on 12.10?
[09:40] <binarydog> i'm trying to install git-core but my apt-get/aptitude does not find any packages that I have not already installed
[09:40] <AirCombat> nvidiaubuntu: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:40] <dr_willis> nvidiaubuntu:  the xorg logs will tell you
[09:40] <AirCombat> nvidiaubuntu: try the command sudo lwhd | more and see if the graphcs card is using the newest driver as well
[09:40] <dr_willis> i dont even need a xorg.conf for most of my  nvidia sysems
[09:41] <nvidiaubuntu> AirCombat: 12.10
[09:41] <AirCombat> from what I've seen, 12.10 is not happy with nvidia cards for some reason. a lot of problems reported online
[09:41] <angs> when I type add-apt-repository, what file does it edit? I checked /etc/apt/source.lists but could not see the changes.
[09:41] <nvidiaubuntu> AirCombat: lwhd is not a command
[09:42] <AirCombat> sorry lshd
[09:42] <dr_willis> ive not had any issues with 12.10 and my nvidia systems. byt they are only like a year-2 yr old cards.. not really old ones.. or really  new ones. ;)
[09:42] <AirCombat> sorry lshw goddamit
[09:42] <AirCombat> yeah mine's almost brand new, about a month old
[09:42] <dr_willis> the card is newer then the OS. ;)
[09:42] <AirCombat> its 4:42 AM here... lol
[09:42] <AirCombat> yeah I know
[09:43] <Zuzuzuzuz> /ping
[09:43] <AirCombat> windows had a new nvidia driver release today and it seems that linux got the new drivers as well.. 310.14 I think
[09:43] <dr_willis> i tend to always get last years model. or whatever has just gotten replaced by a newer model. ;) better value for the $$$
[09:43] <Tm_T> dr_willis: AirCombat: hi (;
[09:43] <jacklk> Any way to change mouse cursor to black in Unity?
[09:43] <dr_willis> its hard to justify $100+ for a video card for a linux box
[09:44] <AirCombat> I only paid $65 for a 1gb DDR3 800MhZ clock
[09:44] <Bennit> Hi
[09:44] <marjinal1st> hi, how can i open CHM files in ubuntu 12.10?
[09:44] <cfhowlett> Bennit, greetings
[09:44] <AirCombat> its a nice card, even though it's low-spec
[09:44] <dr_willis> if i upgraded my card, id have to get a bigger power supply for the pc. ;)
[09:44] <Tm_T> dr_willis: AirCombat: I would ask you to move the offtopic chat to more suitable channels (:
[09:44] <Bennit> trying to get my graphics driver to work (ati saphite 69xx)
[09:44] <dr_willis> marjinal1st:  theres chm viewers in the repos/software center
[09:44] <Bennit> saphire*
[09:44] <dr_willis> !info gnochm
[09:45] <dr_willis> used to be a gnome-chm or somthing like that
[09:45] <dr_willis> !info xchm
[09:45] <Bennit> jockey reports that the fglrx driver is active and in use
[09:45] <Bennit> but when I type glxinfo, it gives the following error:
[09:45] <marjinal1st> dr_willis, what do you recommend?
[09:45] <amelien> coucou
[09:45] <dr_willis> marjinal1st:  flip a coin.. search the software center.. install somthing..
[09:45] <nvidiaubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1689220/
[09:45] <Bennit> http://pastebin.com/80hkY8kU
[09:45] <dr_willis> i cant recall the last time i needed to view a chm file
[09:46] <AirCombat> dr_willis: agreed, lol.
[09:46] <marjinal1st> ^^
[09:46] <dr_willis> !find chm2pdf
[09:46] <dr_willis> !info chm2pdf
[09:46] <AirCombat> yup. marjinal1st: sudo apt-get install chm2pdf
[09:46] <dr_willis> converting to pdf i recall made for some big pdfs
[09:47] <jacklk> Any way to change mouse cursor to black in Unity?
[09:47] <dr_willis> !info chm2html
[09:47] <dr_willis> jacklk:  ive seen some of the tweak tools/settings tools have a cursor theme setting.. but i dont recall where. check askubuntu.com perhaps
[09:47] <captine> hi all.  anyone able to help me troubleshoot apt-get error.  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1689235/
[09:47] <AirCombat> dr_willis: isnt it compiz-tweak-tool or something?
[09:48] <AirCombat> it has mouse settings
[09:48] <captine> i was trying to install ubuntu development sdk for the phone
[09:48] <AirCombat> I remember seeing black actually.
[09:48] <cfhowlett> !phone|captine,
[09:48] <dr_willis> i dont think its in ccsm. ubuntu-tweak or gnome-tweak-tool perhaps
[09:48] <captine> cfhowlett, thanks, i know.  the  dev sdk is out.  i tried installing it, and now my apt-get is broken
[09:49] <dr_willis> theres been on going issues where changeing the cursor theme dosent work well over the last few releases.. so i  never try changeing it
[09:49] <AirCombat> yeah, dr_willis is right actually, after I tried to change it, it never seemed to be quite right
[09:49] <AirCombat> so I just went back to stock.
[09:49] <jacklk> Unity should have a built in option, just like (most) over major desktop enviroment...
[09:49] <dr_willis> we need fancy animated cursors. :)
[09:50] <captine> cfhowlett, my install was "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk notepad-qml " and now there is a dependency issue
[09:50] <dr_willis> its not really  been a big focus of the devs so no one has worked on it much
[09:50] <cfhowlett> captine, that should NOT break your apt-get
[09:50] <AirCombat> dr_willis: just for reference, is the package name compiz-tweak-tool or is it something else, I can't remember?
[09:50] <captine> cfhowlett, i cannot remove anything now etc.  something about a dependency and overwriting libqt4
[09:50] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  ccsm  has a !ccsm factoid ;)
[09:51] <johnsmith> Hello. I am using Ubuntu 12.04 with my ipod with OS version 4.2.1 model MCO86LL attempting to interact with rythmbox on a standard user account to pull music from my ipod and add it to my computers Music folder. Unfortunately, when I put in the ipod, it does one of three things: Refuses to mount, demounts immediately (as soon as I boot up rythmbox) or ejects itself and mounts itself over and over and over in rapid succession.
[09:51] <johnsmith> Anyone seen anything like this?
[09:51] <AirCombat> and how do I use that? just !ccsm?
[09:51] <AirCombat> !ccsm
[09:51] <AirCombat> there it is!! thanks dr_willis
[09:52] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  except the mouse cursor theme is not in the ccsm tool as far as i know. ;)
[09:52] <AirCombat> are you sure? just a day or two ago I thought I saw it in there. I'll check in a minute.
[09:52] <dr_willis> ccsm has that flames around the cursor effect however. ;)
[09:52] <johnsmith> The ipod isn't rooted, and it worked at one point from my administrator account.
[09:52] <AirCombat> dr_willis: (holy smokes, ubuntu-desktop still installing! big package!)
[09:53] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  actually its quite small.. but its all dependencies it pulls in
[09:53] <dr_willis> !info ubuntu-desktop
[09:53] <dr_willis> a 58k package that depends on  500+Mb of other packages
[09:55] <captine> has anyone experienced a clash of a file when installing something thru apt-get?  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1689235/
[09:56] <AirCombat> yeah, my total was like 1400M
[09:56] <captine> it is installing from a PPA
[09:56] <Bray90820> can someone help me get the batter indicator to show up again on my netbook
[09:57] <Bray90820> the deafult for ubuntu has a charging bug so i had to edit /etc/default/grub
[09:57] <Bray90820> i got the charging bug worked out but no battery indicator in the menubar anymore
[09:58] <dr_willis> does it show up for a newly made user?  could be it dosent think you are on battery.
[09:58] <paws> I chown -R www-data:www-data my /home/user/public_html and i chmod -R 775 my public_html and my apache is still telling me 403 forbidden... why is it doing this?
[09:59] <Tm_T> paws: try "sudo -u www-data ls /home/user/public_html"
[09:59] <Bray90820> i think your right
[09:59] <Tm_T> paws: you might notice that www-data doesn't have access to the full path
[09:59] <Bray90820> i dont think it doesn't think i have a battery
[09:59] <Tm_T> captine: that means ppa isn't in sync with other sources
[09:59] <Tm_T> captine: afterall there's only few supported ppa's out there
[09:59] <angs> apt-get source binutils outputs E: Ignore unavailable target release 'stable' of package 'binutils'.. uname -a > Linux ubuntu 3.5.0-23-generic #35-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 24 13:05:29 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:59] <Tm_T> if any
[10:00] <Bray90820> dr_willis do you wanna know exactly what i changed
[10:00] <angs> how can I get binutils?
[10:00] <paws> Tm_T: so what should my /home/user permission be? my user is added to the www-data group
[10:00] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  wont do much good i  imagine. :)  i rarely mess with linux  on laptops
[10:00] <Bray90820> it's a dell mini duo
[10:00] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  if it works on a new user. that would point to it being a user config  issue however.. and not a ssytem issue
[10:01] <Bray90820> the tablet netbook combo
[10:01] <paws> Tm_T: right now its at chmod 750
[10:01] <captine> Tm_T, ok. Thanks.  little frustrating as i installed it from http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/ instructions
[10:01] <TakeItEZ> paws: it needs 755
[10:01] <captine> Tm_T, any idea how to fix it and remove the Ubuntu SDK Preview
[10:02] <TakeItEZ> paws: you are member of www-data but www-data is not member of your usergroup, so 750 fails
[10:02] <paws> TakeItEZ: would 750 let other users on my server access my /home/user dir?
[10:02] <TakeItEZ> paws: yes
[10:02] <paws> i dont want that..
[10:02] <dr_willis> read only
[10:02] <TakeItEZ> paws: no, sorry, 755 would
[10:03] <TakeItEZ> paws: then you might not use apache userdir
[10:06] <Bray90820> Still no battery on a new user
[10:06] <Bray90820> anyone else have an idea
[10:07] <Bray90820> im thinking it doesn't detect i have a battery
[10:07] <flintser> paws: you don't need to do any permission modding on /home/xxx/public_html, i implemented userdir mod like this: make public_html with index.html with 755 in /etc/skel, then always when i add new user i can see the new page at mywebpage/~user
[10:08] <max_> so, it all worked great, thanks dr_willis
[10:08] <TakeItEZ> flintser: that only works if yu haven't changed $HOME to 750 (755 is default)
[10:09] <paws> what is the default permission for the home dir? 755 ?
[10:09] <flintser> TakeItEZ: why home is 750?
[10:09] <TakeItEZ> paws: 755 yes
[10:09] <max_> however, I'm getting an error, my usb mouse isn't working and it keeps telling me khub:22 blocked for more than 120 seconds, and also usb:928 blocked for more than 120 seconds
[10:09] <TakeItEZ> flintser: because people don't like other users accessing their data
[10:09] <mvt007geek> hi people. i have a question. i need to use iozone to test btrfs file system.i formated sda6 to btrfs. i heard we should umount and then do the test. so i should go to /dev/sda6 then do the test.but i can't enter sda6.so iozone test /dev . not /dev/sda6                so i mount /dev/sda6 to /mnt and then i entered /mnt and did iozone test. did i do the right work? are the results true?
[10:10] <TakeItEZ> flintser: unfortunately that also locks apache out
[10:10] <flintser> TakeItEZ: so do people implement their webpages through ftp? or does everyone have local access
[10:10] <dr_willis> mvt007geek:  i thought the iozone docs showd testing a mounted filesytem
[10:10] <flintser> mine is with ftp and they chroot to their home dir so they cant acces anywhere
[10:11] <zefuros> hello guys i need some help here, everytime i connect to my WIFI with ubuntu 12.10 x64 the router drops down the WIFI
[10:11] <AirCombat> sorry, nnow that makes sense
[10:12] <mvt007geek> dr_willis: so doing test when the filesystem is mounted have no problem? and my results are true?
[10:12] <dr_willis> mvt007geek:  id have to refer you to the iozone homepage docs and faq.
[10:13] <Vreim2k> sup?
[10:13] <dr_willis> ive only skimmed the docs/man pages/faq/tutorials
[10:14] <flintser> TakeItEZ: ?
[10:14] <TakeItEZ> flintser: i don't know how his user work
[10:15] <flintser> oh sorry :D
[10:15] <flintser> paws: so do people implement their webpages through ftp? or does everyone have local access
[10:15] <flintser> mine is with ftp and they chroot to their home dir so they cant acces anywhere
[10:15] <paws> ssh and ftp
[10:16] <zefuros> hello guys i need some help here, everytime i connect to my WIFI with ubuntu 12.10 x64 the router drops down the WIFI
[10:16] <dr_willis> 'drops down the wifi' means what?
[10:16] <AirCombat> can anyone tell me how to reset/install basic USB mouse drivers?
[10:17] <flintser> paws: what was your problem then? i've done a few of apache2 userdir setups so i can maybe help
[10:17] <AirCombat> also, how to reinitialize USB controller?
[10:17] <dr_willis> remove then reload the proper modules perhaps
[10:17] <dr_willis> rmmod then modprobe them back
[10:18] <dr_willis> lsmod to show what ones are loaded
[10:18] <AirCombat> okay thanks :) I'll try that
[10:18] <paws> i just wanted chmod 750 so other users dont browse others home dirs but i will just keep it at 755
[10:18] <zefuros> dr_willis: means it seems like ubuntu are connected to my wifi but i dont have internet , plus the other devices i got here doesnt see the wifi at all
[10:19] <dr_willis> zefuros:  it would be very weird that connecting a ubuntu box over wifi would crash the router.. what brand router is it?
[10:19] <dr_willis> zefuros:  if you disconnect the ubuntu box. does the router come back up?
[10:19] <flintser> paws: you can prevent that with chroot in ftp. i don't know much about chrooting in ssh but it can be done too
[10:20] <Lynxx> how to i change the scrollbar colors in gnome shell?
[10:20] <Lynxx> i'm using ubuntu 12.10 btw
[10:20] <zefuros> dr_willis: the router is huawei echolife hg521, and no the only way to make it work again is to power off/on
[10:20] <paws> its okay, flintser i will just keep it at 755 no big deal :)
[10:20] <Bennit> ok fixed it, manually installed catalyst driver and removed some old links to nvidia stuff in the gl_conf update alternative
[10:20] <Lynxx> i've already tried using gnome color chooser , and the scrollbar will flash for a second but does not change/
[10:20] <flintser> so that problem is gone and you can have 755, unless they need access to /var/www and other stuff... then you need some symlinks and stuff
[10:21] <flintser> paws: ^ and ok then :)
[10:21] <Bray90820> Anyone know why ubuntu would not recognize that i am on a battery
[10:21] <JennyBlueBird> hi guys, I need Java for one specific website, what's the recommended way to install the browser plugin ?
[10:22] <dr_willis> JennyBlueBird:  the icedtea java is in the repoa
[10:22] <dr_willis> repos
[10:22] <dr_willis> !java | JennyBlueBird
[10:22] <Bray90820> i use teh iced jaja browser plugin from the software center
[10:22] <Bray90820> java
[10:22] <Bennit> I use iced-tea firefox plugin
[10:23] <Bennit> (which also works for chrome)
[10:23] <jacta> Can anyone help me, I have a problem where I cant type the same key within a short amount of time - its really slowing me down, can anyone point in a direction for this?
[10:23] <JennyBlueBird> drthank you, problem with google is you get so many bad hits :/
[10:23] <JennyBlueBird> dr_willis, *
[10:24] <JennyBlueBird> is that nick a megaman reference btw ?
[10:24] <dr_willis> JennyBlueBird:  hit up askubuntu.com first
[10:24]  * dr_willis is acctually Willis from Differnt Strokes...
[10:24] <jm-> YOU LIE
[10:25] <dr_willis> yea.. im actually Kimberly
[10:25] <dr_willis> ;P
[10:25] <jm-> :)
[10:26] <flintser> jacta: have you tried looking up ease of usage thingys like sticky keys and/or bounce keys and stuff like that
[10:27] <dr_willis> that does sound like that repeate-keys  thing in the accessabilty settings
[10:27] <flintser> jacta: http://people.gnome.org/~shaunm/ubuntu/a11y-bouncekeys.html
[10:28] <angs> apt-get source binutils outputs E: Ignore unavailable target release 'stable' of package 'binutils'.. uname -a > Linux ubuntu 3.5.0-23-generic #35-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 24 13:05:29 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux . how can I fix the problem?
[10:28] <dr_willis> angs:  'stable' is not a valid ubuntu release.. you got a line for 'stable' in your sources.list?
[10:29] <dr_willis> angs:  you havent missed in some debian repos?
[10:29] <Bray90820> Apparently the reason there is no battery status is because acpi is off
[10:29] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  that would do it.. also make your  battery life really suck i  bet
[10:30] <zefuros> dr_willis: got any ideas? or should i wait for something more expirienced? (no offence of course)
[10:30] <Bray90820> well for my netbook not to completely hang when i plug and unplug the charger acpi need to be off
[10:30] <dr_willis> zefuros:  for what? ;) i frogot the issue.
[10:30] <zefuros> dr_willis: aabout my huawei router blacksout when i connect with ubuntu 12.10 x64 on the wifi
[10:30] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  thats odd.. normally netbooks are very well supported they are all so similer.
[10:31] <Bray90820> it's a dell mini duo a netbook tablet combo
[10:31] <angs> dr_willis: I have quantal universe;main restricted;  multiverse. it does not have stable on the sources.list . I am trying to follow this instruction https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Toolchain/Crosscompilers/ARMEABIToolchain I got error on the step one. do you have any suggestion what I can do about it?
[10:31] <dr_willis> zefuros:  test with some other distros like puppylinux and tinycore linux perhaps. to see if they do the same thing. i would almost think its a router bug. not a ubuntu issue
[10:32] <dr_willis> angs:  ive never really  messed with development stuff.
[10:32] <zefuros> dr_willis: i think so as well cause recently i changed internet provider so router as well and then the problem occured , but what can i do and where can i speak for this kind of issue?
[10:32] <Bray90820> is there any way i could get it to work with acpi on
[10:33] <dr_willis> zefuros:  plug the old router back in.. see if it works
[10:33] <Bray90820> on some ubuntu based distros it works fine
[10:33] <jacta> Can no one help me with my problem with key delay? :S
[10:33] <Bray90820> one i know works is jolly os
[10:33] <dr_willis> zefuros:  or plug one router into the other.. and see if connecting to the old router works. ;)
[10:33] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  youmean JoliOS ?
[10:34] <zefuros> dr_willis: damn even knowing computer stuff i cant get you plus i hate the networks education xD
[10:34] <Bray90820> yes that
[10:34] <Bray90820> dr_willis yes
[10:34] <dr_willis> zefuros:  see if the old router works..  if it does.. go     isp -> newrouter -> oldrouter -> linuxboxs
[10:35] <dr_willis> my routers i can setup as a wireeless access point basically. not as a router.
[10:35] <dr_willis> so i can sort of chain them
[10:35] <TakeItEZ> Bray90820: what type/brand/model of laptop is that? does it need some special kernel-modules like this thinkpad (thinkpad_acpi) to work properly?
[10:35] <zefuros> dr_willis: its really time consuming this, plus i dont know how to make my old router work with my new internet provider neither i think it will do
[10:35] <dr_willis> zefuros:  Huh? you  just plug the router into your cable modem.. unless you  got some weird internet..
[10:36] <angs> dr_willis, is it possible to reset /etc/apt/sources.list and PPA settings?
[10:36] <dr_willis> Ive never had any issues with any routers and changeing isp or routers
[10:36] <dr_willis> angs:  theres default/sources.list generators online
[10:36] <dr_willis> as for ppas theres that ppa-purge command
[10:36] <dr_willis> !ppa-purge
[10:36] <angs> thank you dr_willis
[10:36] <zefuros> dr_willis: well my internet called ADSL and its basicly like this : my phone jack on the wall goes to a filter and one line to phone one line to router
[10:37] <dr_willis> err.. i think what you are calling a router is an ADSL modem....
[10:37] <dr_willis> unless its a adsl modem+router combo box.
[10:38] <Bray90820> TakeItEZ its a Dell Inspiron Duo d211-101302
[10:38] <Bray90820> TakeItEZ do you wanna know the exact edit i made to get the touch screen and charger working
[10:38] <zefuros> dr_willis: i dont know im not got with networks im usually on programming xD
[10:40] <dr_willis> bbl
[10:41] <TakeItEZ> Bray90820: did you try/use option "acpi_backlight=vendor"?
[10:41] <Bray90820> TakeItEZ what would taht do
[10:42] <TakeItEZ> Bray90820: seem to change the way the backlight is controlled on power-change ac/bat
[10:43] <TakeItEZ> Bray90820: idk if that really helps to fix your issues. but switching acpi off is a bad thing, and not needed in most cases
[10:44] <Bray90820> well it's not really the backlight that is the problem from what i can tell is it gives me a kernel panic
[10:45] <TakeItEZ> Bray90820: yes and this should (hopefully) prevent the kernel from crashing.
[10:46] <Bray90820> TakeItEZ what should i do
[10:46] <TakeItEZ> Bray90820: try this boot option and see what happens
[10:47] <Bray90820> try what
[10:47] <TakeItEZ> scroll back 8 lines
[10:48] <misaka00251> hi
[10:48] <lewik> I try to install Simon. It need qwt6. How I can install it? Kubuntu
[10:48] <Bray90820> ok
[10:48] <Bray90820> how would i enter it tho
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> !find simon
[10:49] <TakeItEZ> Bray90820: hold left shift to get grub-menu, press  "e" to edit the options. add that options after "quiet splash"
[10:49] <lewik> MonkeyDust: go link?
[10:49] <Bray90820> ok
[10:49] <Bray90820> i actually need to go to bed so i will try it tomorrow
[10:49] <lewik> MonkeyDust: no resilts
[10:50] <flintser> jacta: i said to you earlier what you could try. did you try it?
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> lewik  do you mean Simon for speech?
[10:50] <lewik> MonkeyDust: yes
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> lewik  is this useful http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/2012033103280939/Simon.html
[10:53] <lewik> MonkeyDust: There are 0.3.0  I downloaded 0.4.0    Shoud I dload 0.3.0 ?
[10:54] <maxygas> yo
[10:54] <asher^> hi, is there a way i can start a process from inside ssh but have it continue to run after i close the terminal window?
[10:54] <asher^> on a remote server
[10:55] <TakeItEZ> asher^: use screen
[10:55] <comp-user> asher, capistrano
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> lewik  as it is not in the repos, you should try which version suits your needs best
[10:55] <k1l_> asher^: use screen or nohup
[10:55] <misaka00251> OA
[10:55] <asher^> ill try that, thanks
[10:56] <jacta> flintser: i didnt see your message, hold on :)
[10:58] <jacta> flintser: !!! You found it!!!!!!!! THANKS!!!!!!!
[10:58] <jacta> it was driving me nuts, really!
[10:58] <asher^> can someone give me a tip on how to use screen to do this? im logging in to a remote server, want to start a process, then exit while keeping the process running. i have screen installed
[10:59] <dr_willis> screen + ssh = cake and icecream..  just goooood.  ;-)
[10:59] <ejv> asher^: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/manual/screen.html
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> !screen
[10:59] <dr_willis> just run screen
[10:59] <TakeItEZ> asher^: "screen" then start your process, ctrl-a-d then to detach
[10:59] <ejv> stop reinforcing bad behavior, refer to the documentation!
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> i'm in screen too
[11:00] <dr_willis> byobu is a bit more user friendly
[11:00] <nashant> I think everyone should be in screen
[11:00] <Jimmy90210> does anyone know how to compile lyx against qt5?
[11:00] <dr_willis> run tmux in scteen
[11:00] <jpds> nashant: tmux.
[11:00] <jpds> dr_willis: screen is dead.
[11:01] <Jutas> Hi. In GNOME Shell Remix there is 1360x768 display resolution option but in Xubuntu there is no. Which file makes this difference?
[11:01] <nashant> jpds: looks interesting...
[11:01] <asher^> TakeItEZ, i just tried that, when i closed my terminal window it seemed to kill my process
[11:02] <Jimmy90210> asher^: ctrl-a d disconnects the session. read the manual
[11:03] <asher^> Jimmy90210, i am trying..
[11:04] <Jimmy90210> asher^: when you ssh back in, run the command 'screen -r' to reconnect
[11:04] <nashant> I'm having hdd issues. SMART says I've got errors (uncorrectable errors in data, the count is on 1158 so far!!), but running mke2fs -cc doesn't flag up any errors at all. Might I have a power problem? Got 5 sata disks running off a 650w
[11:04] <arunkumar413> sound output device shows dummy output
[11:05] <ejv> could be the disk, could be the controller, could be unstable power, could be anything without data.
[11:05] <nyuszika7h> I knew Ubuntu 10.04(.0) LTS is old, but I didn't know it's THAT old
[11:05] <nashant> ejv, what sort of data can I provide?
[11:05] <nyuszika7h> over 500 updates from lucid-security
[11:06] <purplerain> !resolution | Jutas
[11:06] <nyuszika7h> why not use 'service' instead of /etc/init.d/?
[11:07] <nyuszika7h> afaik calling /etc/init.d/ directly is deprecated, because of environment clutter and stuff
[11:08] <Jutas> thanks
[11:08] <Jutas> what do you mean service nyuszika
[11:09] <nyuszika7h> Jutas: sudo service ?dm restart
[11:10] <nyuszika7h> init.d works, but last time I used it I got some notice that calling 'service' instead is recommended
[11:10] <Ciphoenix> hello. I'm having a problem with dual booting ubuntu and windows 8.
[11:10] <nashant> ejv: http://pastebin.com/a765qMW1
[11:11] <Ciphoenix> I installed and ran boot repair still ubuntu won't boot
[11:11] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, what kind of problem
[11:11] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, u mean grub repair ?
[11:11] <lolmaus> I would like to put a command into cron. How do i make that command write its output into a file?
[11:12] <Jutas> the manual which ubottu said says  a) .xprofile, b) kdm/gdm, c) xorg.conf.. I'm on xfce so kdm/gdm not good. I don't have xorg.conf so there must be option a.,
[11:12] <nashant> Can anyone shed any light on my hdd woes please? http://pastebin.com/a765qMW1
[11:12] <Ciphoenix> was given this url http://paste.ubuntu.com/1679407
[11:12] <Alocer> Jutas, create one
[11:12] <TakeItEZ> lolmaus: command >/path/foo 2>&1
[11:13] <Jutas> Alocer. I did. We did. 4 people from IRC channel. Didn't help
[11:13] <Ciphoenix> Alocer boot repair with the ubuntu secure disc
[11:13] <Jutas> sudo service ?dm restart. what is the question mark for?
[11:13] <lolmaus> TakeItEZ, thank you.
[11:14] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, do u know if boot repair will repair your mba or  /boot ?
[11:15] <nyuszika7h> help!
[11:15] <Alocer> TakeItEZ, command will output to foo but what is the 2>&1 for ?
[11:15] <nyuszika7h> apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: cannot read file data: Invalid argument
[11:15] <nyuszika7h> Alocer: it's for redirecting errors to the standard output stream.
[11:15] <TakeItEZ> Alocer: it will also redirect stderr
[11:16] <Alocer> ty
[11:16] <Alocer> understood :-)
[11:16] <Ciphoenix> Alocer don't know where the problem is
[11:16] <TakeItEZ> Alocer: 1 stdou, 2 stderr
[11:16] <arunkumar413> sound output device shows dummy output
[11:16] <TakeItEZ> stdout*
[11:17] <hpuser2323> How do I mount my android phone (LG Optimus p970) in ubuntu?   I want to browse/mod the phone's filesystem.
[11:17] <Alocer> hpuser2323, this is not the correct room to ask but u can use google , there is tons of articles for that ;-)
[11:18] <Alocer> hpuser2323, join android ;-)
[11:18] <hpuser2323> well i need ubuntu specifally to mount my phone.
[11:19] <Alocer> u need ubuntu and linux to compile android source try joining android room
[11:19] <TakeItEZ> hpuser2323: i guess you'll need mtp-tools and mtp-fs
[11:19] <k1l_> hpuser2323: you need adb shell for that
[11:20] <k1l_> (if you mean browsing in the shell. there is no browsing for the root folder in gui)
[11:20] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, i think u should reinstall grub on ur boot partition ;-)
[11:21] <Ciphoenix> Alocer . had to enable legacy support to be able to boot from live cd. installed grub2 in /boot
[11:21] <k1l_> hpuser2323: install "adb-tools-adb" if you are running 12.10
[11:21] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, is /boot the active partition ?
[11:21] <hpuser2323> k1l_  ok installing..
[11:21] <Ciphoenix> but I keep getting this error when I select ubuntu fron the boot menu
[11:22] <Alocer> what error the link u gave before ? Ciphoenix
[11:22] <arunkumar413> i'm not able to hear any sound from  my notebook. the output device says dummy output
[11:22] <AirCombat> oh man, I'm having a weird problem... I'm connected to the internet but connection manager shows no active wired or wireless connections ... and I never even gave ubuntu my wireless password!!! is it auto-reading it from windows install or something?!
[11:23] <Alocer> AirCombat, WTF 0.O
[11:23] <Ciphoenix> it's a primary partition. no, the boot menu error is different.  says there's a file missing. Alocer
[11:23] <AirCombat> yeah tell me about it. before I installed the GUI I was using IRC on command line... and I was like, wait, how am I even online right now?!?!
[11:23] <khirod> i had installed oracle-xe-universal 10g using a debian package, but due to some reason I uninstalled it using "sudo apt-get remove oracle-xe-universal" but it seems that it is not removed completely and during startup I can see that some error about Oracle Net Listener....
[11:23] <Alocer> okey found it Ciphoenix u should install grub 2 on sda partition
[11:24] <AirCombat> it's very strange... and I don't even know where to begin with drivers...
[11:24] <Alocer> your MBR
[11:24] <khirod> How can I remove that
[11:24] <superdo> hi
[11:25] <superdo> any hint how to set Gnome commander text viewer (F3) to bigger size?
[11:25] <Ciphoenix> Alocer . okay. won't that cause some conflict with the windows boot manager?
[11:25] <Alocer> AirCombat, is your OS installed in VMWare or VirtualBox ?
[11:25] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, that will replace the windows boot manager
[11:25] <AirCombat> no
[11:25] <AirCombat> dual-boot with Vista.
[11:25] <AirCombat> ubuntu server 12.10...
[11:26] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, u wont have any windows boot manager
[11:26] <Alocer> AirCombat, there is something missing . u are connected to wireless that mmeans your ssid without giving your password ? right ?
[11:27] <AirCombat> Alocer: my thoughts exactly.
[11:27] <AirCombat> I mean my router has WPA but usually you have to go press the button for that to work.
[11:27] <AirCombat> sorry WPS*
[11:28] <superdo> ok got it.
[11:28] <Ciphoenix> but I'll still be able to boot into windows 8, right? Alocer
[11:28] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, yes
[11:29] <Alocer> AirCombat, impossible how is that possible . the possibilities are : 1. your ssid dosent have password 2. your are connected to another ssid which doesnt have pass 3. wps had worked withour pressing button :-D
[11:30] <AirCombat> I know you'll think I'm crazy, but I know for a fact none of those three are possible. I KNOW my router's password is still on, just checked with my tablet... there are no other open networks around, and WPS is actually set to off right now. even if WPS was working, it should still show up in Wireless connections
[11:30] <AirCombat> like, I'm confrizzled here...
[11:30] <AirCombat> I can even show you screenshots to prove it, lol
[11:31] <vedic1> I have a script that I want to run at server boot time (same like other services in init.d runs). How to do that?
[11:32] <AirCombat> !screenshot
[11:32] <Ciphoenix> Alocer_away  I found the error message.
[11:32] <Ciphoenix> file: /NST/AutoNeoGrub0.mbr
[11:32] <Alocer_away> AirCombat, lol but no your not crazy maybe drunk and your not seeing the cable that is connected to your system :D
[11:33] <Alocer_away> ok i m doone here and i need to go just telling you of you are using laptop with default win 8 on it dont reinstall grub2 on MBR
[11:33] <Alocer_away> byebye all
[11:33] <AirCombat> I just checked that too, my onboard LAN is fried anyway and the PCI LAN card is in the other desktop now...
[11:33] <AirCombat> man this is weird.
[11:33] <Alocer_away> sry AirCombat and Ciphoenix
[11:34] <AirCombat> http://imagebin.org/247406 http://imagebin.org/247407 http://imagebin.org/247408
[11:34] <AirCombat> look for yourself...
[11:37] <AirCombat> anyone check out my imagebin's? am I going nuts or is ubuntu managing the connections somewhere else??
[11:39] <AirCombat> ... rather quiet in here suddenly, lol.
[11:39] <Ciphoenix> lol
[11:39] <AirCombat> Ciphoenix: did you look at my imagebins?
[11:39] <AirCombat> I can't figure out why there's no active connections
[11:42] <Myrtti> AirCombat: could you pastebin what sudo lshw -C network prints
[11:44] <Ciphoenix> AirCombat your pastebin doesn't show any wired connection
[11:44] <heliosx> test
[11:44] <heliosx> test test
[11:44] <heliosx> anyone's not a bot here?
[11:45] <k1l_> !ask | heliosx
[11:45] <jellow> Is there a reason iftop even with -p would not see other network traffic?
[11:47] <AirCombat> okay hold on
[11:48] <AirCombat> here
[11:48] <AirCombat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1690094/
[11:48] <AirCombat> all that info is correct, or so it seems.
[11:48] <battlefield3> someone can help me?
[11:50] <Alocer> AirCombat, did u manage to find the missing mystery key ? ?
[11:51] <AirCombat> nope, just showed Myrtti this:
[11:51] <AirCombat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1690094/
[11:51] <AirCombat> no response yet, people are sleepy I guess :P
[11:51] <AirCombat> that was sudo lshw -C network
[11:51] <Ciphoenix> alocer: welcome back. did you say not to install grub2 in mbr for systems that came with windows 8?
[11:52] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, yes sry to get u in trouble
[11:52] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, becuz they have preinstalled recovery driver and u can not access that
[11:53] <Ciphoenix> Alocer :so What're my options here
[11:53] <Alocer> AirCombat, a big funny mystery lol
[11:54] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, use some partition managers to change your system and tell it to boot from /dev/sda1 or your boot device /boot
[11:54] <Myrtti> oh, damn, I just went to put socks on
[11:55] <Alocer> nooo why he left ??
[11:55] <Ciphoenix> can you suggest one?
[11:56] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, i dont now much about these things
[11:56] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, let me search a bit ;)
[11:57] <Ciphoenix> sure :)
[11:57] <battlefield3> Ciphoenix, i have
[11:57] <battlefield3> steam
[11:57] <battlefield3> i downloaded team fortress 2
[11:58] <battlefield3> but the game dont show pictures, only sound
[11:58] <Ciphoenix> steam?
[11:59] <Ciphoenix> battlefield3 where did you download from?
[11:59] <battlefield3> i downloaded for steam
[11:59] <codeadi_> help
[12:00] <battlefield3> Chiphoenix
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:02] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, i m not sure but gparted and make sure what u are doing
[12:02] <Alocer> dont forget of a backup
[12:03] <battlefield3> Ciphoenix, help me :)
[12:03] <leifcr> Anyone seen this SSHD rootkit affecting centos, fedora, cloudlinux ?http://www.cloudlinux.com/blog/clnews/sshd-exploit.php ?
[12:03] <Alocer> nice trick :D
[12:04] <silv3r_m00n> what is the difference between ubuntu software center and synaptic ?
[12:08] <AirborneCav> Hi, anyone be able to help me with conkys?
[12:09] <dr_willis> Conky?
[12:09] <dr_willis> tons of guides and sites and examples of using conky out there.
[12:10] <AirborneCav> I have followed the guide on installing / customising but something not working right
[12:11] <dr_willis> my fave conky thang -> http://helmuthdu.deviantart.com/art/CONKY-COLORS-244793180
[12:11] <AirborneCav> as in it won't use the .conkyrc
[12:11] <dr_willis> tell it to use the .conkyrc via  the command line? and look for error messages?
[12:12] <AirborneCav> sorta new to command line, how would I tell it to use .conkyrc
[12:12] <dr_willis> conky --config=/path/to/your/.conkyrc
[12:12] <AirborneCav> ahh thanks lol
[12:12] <dr_willis> its just a file in your home directory
[12:12] <dr_willis> conky --help   is worth reading. ;)
[12:12] <dr_willis> You did make a .conkyrc?
[12:12] <AirborneCav> I did
[12:12] <dr_willis> and where is it? ;)
[12:12] <AirborneCav> its sitting in home
[12:13] <AirborneCav> not my user home but home
[12:13] <AirborneCav> tried both
[12:13] <dr_willis> err.. what other home is there?
[12:13] <AirborneCav> as in / home / user
[12:13] <AirborneCav> but its in home
[12:13] <jellow> any tools that can help me track down network hogs?
[12:13] <dr_willis>  the file goes in your users /home/username/ directory
[12:13] <^DEMOSS^> anybody can help me with information for specialist, whose can help me restore my raid 5 on mdadm ? http://pastebin.com/4wDZTKbq  \  http://pastebin.com/nrfnLF1L  \\  http://pastebin.com/TY0SJvzj
[12:14] <dr_willis> ls -l  ~/.conkyrc     should show it
[12:14] <AirborneCav> give me 2 secs
[12:15] <AirborneCav> your sure its in home is in usr?
[12:16] <dr_willis> I never said home is in usr
[12:16] <AirborneCav> pretty sure username is in home
[12:16] <AirborneCav> ...
[12:16] <dr_willis> your USERS home are in /home/YOURUSERNAME
[12:16] <AirborneCav> well its in home
[12:16] <AirborneCav> not username
[12:16] <dr_willis> thats not the same as usr or user
[12:16] <AirborneCav> sorta newish to linux
[12:16] <dr_willis> give the FULL path you are talking about
[12:17] <dr_willis> what is your users name?
[12:17] <AirborneCav> marek@linux:/home
[12:17] <AirborneCav> thats where I have placed it
[12:18] <dr_willis>    /home/ is NOT the same as /home/marek
[12:18] <dr_willis> marek is your users name.. his home is /home/marek
[12:18] <dr_willis> all your users files belong in /home/marek
[12:18] <AirborneCav> which I have tried the .conkyrc in there as well
[12:19] <dr_willis> the /home/ directory contains all the users.
[12:19] <dr_willis> so do  conky --config=/home/marek/.conkyrc
[12:19] <dr_willis> it dosent have to be named .conkyrc you could name it anything if you tell conky what one to use
[12:21] <AirborneCav> just follwing the installing guide on Ubuntu website
[12:21] <AirborneCav> but it has seemed to work
[12:21] <AirborneCav> might need to edit it a little
[12:21] <dr_willis> you just need to tell it where .conkyrc is at and you dont hacve to use the name .conkyrc  I have a Conky directory with differnt configs.
[12:22] <dr_willis> so i do a conky --config=/home/dr_willis/Conky/setup1.conky
[12:22] <battlefield3> hello, i downloaded team fortress 2 for steam, but dont show picture
[12:22] <dr_willis> and  i do a conky --config=/home/dr_willis/Conky/setup2.conky
[12:22] <dr_willis> show what picture?
[12:22] <AirborneCav> might need to do that thanks, Thanks Dr
[12:23] <battlefield3> dr_willis, dont show video
[12:24] <battlefield3> is black
[12:24] <ypahnu> hi all. what's regegEdit in ubuntu? how can I reuse a trial veersion software over and over?
[12:24] <Alocer> ypahnu, what software ?
[12:25] <dr_willis> you mean the flash preview battlefield3 ?
[12:25] <dr_willis> in the store
[12:25] <ypahnu> it's a free trial stream media server
[12:25] <dr_willis> ypahnu:  you mean like windows 'regedit' ?
[12:25] <ypahnu> ya.. I need to remove key to get reinstall it again
[12:25] <ypahnu> how it would be in ubuntu?
[12:26] <battlefield3> dr_willis,  i use ubuntu
[12:26] <dr_willis> theres not a regiestry in linux.. gnome has its settings thats similer.. but i doubt if the app is doing anything in there
[12:26] <dr_willis> battlefield3:  yes.. that makes sence... most of us in here are using Ubuntu..
[12:26] <battlefield3> dr_willis, the game ope whit OpenGL
[12:26] <dr_willis> The steam client has issues with flash. no game videos in the store for anyone. there may be some fixs.. if thats what you mean.
[12:26] <ypahnu> when installing apps need to know how many time left .. or if was allready intaled?
[12:27] <dr_willis> ypahnu:  if its not from the repos.. the app could be doing most anything.. it could be logging to its own server..
[12:27] <ypahnu> so I beleave it's something like regeEdit
[12:27] <dr_willis> ypahnu:  look for its config files or other files in your home.
[12:27] <battlefield3> dr_willis, ¿what program may use?
[12:28] <ypahnu> dr_willis: so there's nothing like regeedit in ubuntu?
[12:28] <dr_willis> battlefield3:  what?  Tf2 plays fine for me in steam
[12:28] <savagecroc> Computer A has no external internet access.  Computer B can ssh onto Computer A.  How can Computer B perform an apt-get upgrade on Computer A?
[12:28] <eduardo__> lisa_m baro in master branch ?
[12:28] <dr_willis> ypahnu:  gnome has its config editor.. but theres no Universial regiestry in linux..
[12:28] <dr_willis> ypahnu:  it could be just saving a simple text file in your home directory
[12:28] <ypahnu> dr_willis: so it's only in home folder? after I remove?  how can trace witch files change wile installing?
[12:29] <sdfg> What does everyone use linux?
[12:29] <battlefield3> dr_willis,  tell you my computer features
[12:30] <ui_> ypahnu: install in a virtual machine. That won't work in all cases, but will leave your system clean.
[12:31] <savagecroc> hey.. so anyone know how to upgrade a machine without internet access?
[12:31] <ui_> when it's done, reset the VM state and pray.
[12:31] <battlefield3> dr_willis,
[12:31] <savagecroc> i was thinking something like.. download all the packages and copy them to /var/cache/apt/archives? would that work?
[12:32] <ui_> savagecroc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline/Repository
[12:33] <savagecroc> excellent
[12:33] <ui_> !offline
[12:33] <dr_willis> ypahnu: depends on how you are installing it..
[12:33] <b_10> Hi, can somebody help me? I'm using Ubuntu 12.xx and it doesnt show the side/top bar when the OS starts.. Only thing I can use is the terminal.. It gives an error at the startup "No system tray detected on this system.". I did install a theme before this happened, but now I disabled it and it didnt help..
[12:34] <dr_willis> b_10:  if a newly made user. and the guest user work.. then its a user setting issue. You could delete the various setting files in your users home (move them to a backup directory) then log out/in and see if it helps
[12:34] <battlefield3> dr_willis, "!!!!
[12:34] <dr_willis> battlefield3:  yes?
[12:35] <b_10> dr_willis: Thanks, I'll try with a guest user :)
[12:35] <dr_willis> b_10:  the .Xauthority file is a common problem maker
[12:35] <dr_willis> b_10:  then stuff in the users .config   directory and .compiz
[12:42] <b_10> dr_willis: I tried with a guest user, and it wasnt any better, and I dont know how to make a new user via terminal..
[12:42] <dr_willis> sudo adduser billgates
[12:42] <dr_willis> ;)
[12:43] <jack__> hello people..
[12:45] <dr_willis> Hello person
[12:46] <Promille> Hm. Status in irssi is "3:#ubuntu(+CLcfjnt #ubuntu-unregged 5:10)" What does that mean?
[12:46] <jack__> hello
[12:46] <dr_willis> the +C stuff is channel modes. ;)  #ubuntu-unr4egged is where yoi can get bounced to...
[12:46] <dr_willis> No idea on the rest. ;)
[12:47] <b_10> dr_willis: I tried with a new user also.. Didn't get the top/side bars, and did get the "No system tray detected" -error..
[12:48] <jack__> @<b_10> whats problem?
[12:48] <dr_willis> That is weird.. you sure all you did was install a theme? sounds like video driver issues
[12:48] <Promille> dr_willis: Thanks. But _can_ get bounced to?
[12:49] <b_10> dr_willis: One other thing I did was that i installed a "Additional drivers" package for nvidia and activated one of them.. But I uninstalled it after this problem came
[12:49] <Gerben> Hello. I have a question. I want to back-up my encrypted homedir. Would it be enough to backup /home/.ecryptfs ? Or will that restore "inconsistent"
[12:49] <Gerben> I'll be using Bacula for backup
[12:49] <jack__> @Gerben : u can take up /home/*
[12:50] <Gerben> that will backup both the encrypted and, if mounted, decrypted homedir
[12:50] <Gerben> I think..
[12:50] <b_10> jack__: I'm getting "No system tray detected on this system" -error on OS starup, and I dont see the "top bar" or the "side bar"..
[12:51] <backbox> backbox
[12:54] <goranek> hi guys
[12:54] <b_10> jack__: I got this problem after installing quite a lot of stuff (to avoid rebooting so much).. I installed a "Additional drivers" -package from software-center, and activated one of the NVIDIA things there.. I also installed this theme http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Zukitwo?content=140562 via ubuntu-tweaks
[12:55] <goranek> 1
[12:58] <b_10> jack__: And to install the theme i had to run a lot of commands like "sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-murrine gtk2-engines-pixbuf", .. and I also installed "gnome-themes-standard", "gnome-panel" and "gnome-tweak-tool"...
[12:58] <goranek> Irssi is hard :)
[12:58] <Promille> goranek: How so :) ? Anything you need help with?
[12:58] <goranek> It seems that it's in conflict with DWM..
[12:58] <goranek> Switching tabs is made with ALT + NUM right?
[12:59] <goranek> The same as with DWM
[12:59] <Promille> DWM = console ?
[12:59] <Promille> (terminal)
[12:59] <goranek> DWM = WN :)
[12:59] <goranek> *WM
[12:59] <cads> hey guys
[12:59] <goranek> http://dwm.suckless.org/
[13:00] <dr_willis> goranek:  i perfer weechat  over irssi
[13:00] <cads> does anyone know why the 32 bit distribution is considered reccommended for download at the ubuntu site?
[13:00] <cads> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[13:00] <dr_willis> b_10:  you most likely want the nvidia drivers installed if you have an nvidia chipset/video card
[13:00] <cads> I am installing on a 64 bit machine - is 32 bit ubuntu still preffered for some reason?
[13:01] <cfhowlett> cads, 32 bit bill run on 64 bit computers.  not the other way around.  if your computer can run 64 bit, install 64 bit
[13:01] <dr_willis> b_10:  you may also want to try renameing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to some backup name.   sudo mv foo foo.backup
[13:01] <dr_willis> cads:  its idiot proofing for people that dont know what 64 and 32bit mean
[13:01] <goranek> anyone know a good terminal(ncurses) download manager? i hate to use chromium for this
[13:01] <dr_willis> goranek:  wget
[13:01] <Promille> goranek: Ah, allright. IÃ'm not familiar with that. But you change windows with ALT + NUM, yeah. But you can probably change that in ~/.irssi/config
[13:02] <goranek> wget is too simple
[13:02] <cads> dr_willis: I had a feeling that's what it was
[13:02] <goranek> i'm not considering it as an download manager :)
[13:02] <dr_willis> gee can you be any less vague then. ;P
[13:02] <dr_willis> !info curl
[13:03] <goranek> wget > curl for downloading files, but that's not what i've asked for :)
[13:03] <goranek> something like rtorrent but for files :)
[13:03] <goranek> *files = http
[13:04] <goranek> any other recommendation? :)
[13:05] <Naphatul> what's the main difference between lts and the other releases? does lts only get security updates or does it get other updates only later?
[13:06] <lunitik> Naphatul: that actually depends on how you set it up, the main difference is that you get more support, it has been built to be supportable.
[13:06] <Naphatul> what do you mean how i set it up?
[13:06] <lunitik> Naphatul: non-LTS releases are something of a moving target.
[13:06] <lunitik> Naphatul: you can have it install backports and the like just like anything else, for instance, or just security updates... it depends on you
[13:07] <Naphatul> ah i meant whats the difference on default installs
[13:08] <dr_willis> Once a release has been made.. basically only security updates happen.  with a few exceptiopns..
[13:08] <dr_willis> lts gets them longer
[13:08] <dr_willis> !lts
[13:08] <cfhowlett> Naphatul, if you MUST have cutting edge, then be prepared to get cut.  If you want a reliable boot and functional device with support for the long-haul, go with LTS.
[13:08] <cfhowlett> IMHO
[13:09] <lunitik> cfhowlett: even that is not really true, an LTS .0 release is just as bleeding edge as anything else really
[13:09] <lunitik> Granted most LTS users skip those
[13:09] <Naphatul> i don't want cutting edge but i don't want packages that are old as debian testing either
[13:09] <dr_willis> they do tend to get a bit wilder with the non-lts releases. ;)
[13:10] <lunitik> Naphatul: Debian testing isn't old - although they are trying to release right now so things might be getting older, I haven't looked in a while
[13:10] <dr_willis> Naphatul:  stick with the every 6 mo releases then perhaps
[13:10] <cfhowlett> lunitik, my updates schedule is the first point release of LTS, thus every two years I get to experience the pain that many folk choose to endure every 6 months.  Much as I love Ubuntu, I don't have the time, patience, knowledge or inclination to subject myself to that if I don't have to.  Just weird that way ...
[13:11] <lunitik> Naphatul: The non-LTS releases are stable, just don't let anyone talk you into running Ubuntu+1
[13:11] <cfhowlett> lunitik, FULLY agree on that point!
[13:12] <goranek> Ubuntu ftw, and i say that as an ex crazy fanatic Archlinux user :)
[13:13] <lunitik> cfhowlett: I honestly have no problems updating ever, been around since warty was not even released, I just don't use much in the way of PPA's or the like, pretty clean
[13:14] <goranek> Guys, can i somehow link .pem file with ip, so ssh doesn't always ask me for it(i dont need to add it with -i key.pem)
[13:15] <cfhowlett> lunitik, I've a similar install protocol.  At the end of the, day what works for you.  High power users that can compile, do all the network config and what-not, I salute.  I just wants it to work!
[13:15] <lunitik> cfhowlett: I also usually make sure the metapackages are around when I update
[13:15] <b_10> Tässä vähän tarkemmin, että mitä kaikkea suurinpiirtein asensin ennen boottausta, jonka jälkeen Ubuntu ei enää käynnistynyt normaalisti: 1) software-centeristä "Additional Drivers" -> Käynnistin sen, ja valitsin alimman vaihtoehdon, en tiedä mitä siinä luki -> joku tyyliin "Apply" tai "Install".. 2) Asentin tällasen themen "http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Zukitwo?content=140562" 3) Themeä varten asentelin jotain paketteja, mm. "gtk2
[13:15] <b_10> Sorry wrong language :)
[13:15] <cfhowlett> b_10, what language?  for future reference ....
[13:16] <Reezz> Hey guys, when I'm trying to run make on a package it doesn't automagically find my includes (they are there, but in subfolders..) Any ideas?
[13:17] <b_10> cfhowlett: Finnish
[13:17] <cfhowlett> b_10, OK then.  thanks.
[13:17] <cfhowlett> Reezz, how are you installing this package and where did it come from?
[13:17] <Naphatul> Reezz, subfolder/header.h
[13:17] <Naphatul> in the include
[13:19] <Reezz> cfhowlett: it's Skeltrack, cloned it from a git.. ran its configure and now i'm trying to run make to compile it all
[13:19] <cfhowlett> Reezz, ah.  PowerUser stuff.  Over my head.  Lunitik???
[13:19] <Reezz> Naphatul: yes, but it's not in the package folder. an example: cogl/cogl.h (system include) like this: #include <cogl/cogl.h>
[13:19] <Naphatul> what error does running make give you?
[13:20] <Reezz> Naphatul: It complains about the file not being there.. which is correct. pkg-config should be used to solve this I believe.. But I shouldn't need to modify the package, right?
[13:20] <lunitik> Reezz: you probably want #ubuntu-devel - this is more end user support and I'm not much of a packager (mostly just metapackages)
[13:21] <Reezz> lunitik: Ah, sorry :) I'll go and have a look-see there
[13:21] <Reezz> Thanks guys!
[13:21] <lunitik> Reezz: just be patient, it will be slower
[13:22] <lersch> Hello. I am running Wubi. In my application I open() a file using O_DIRECT option, I allocate 8GB for this file and make a mmap() of it. All the I/O to the file is made through the mmap() using memcopy(). Even specifying O_DIRECT, the behavior of the application make me believe that there is some sort of caching happening. Is it because of Wubi or am I missing something?
[13:23] <cfhowlett> lersch, wubi is for TESTING ubuntu ... not long term installation solution...suggest you virtualbox ubuntu instead or do a proper dual boot...
[13:24] <lersch> Ok. But do you know anything in Wubi that might ignore the O_DIRECT in open()?
[13:24] <cfhowlett> lersch, I don't know
[13:25] <BluesKaj> well , wubi points users in the right direction in terms of the ubuntu experience but that's about it's meant to do IMO
[13:25] <Ben__> Hello
[13:25] <BluesKaj> al
[13:25] <Ben__> I saw that you are making an OS for tablets
[13:25] <cfhowlett> Ben__, greetings
[13:25] <nerder> it
[13:25] <Ben__> I have a Nexus 7
[13:25] <cfhowlett> !tablet|Ben__,
[13:25] <Ben__> Ok, sorry
[13:26] <BluesKaj> !tablet | Ben__
[13:26] <BluesKaj> hehe
[13:26] <cfhowlett> Ben__, no worries.
[13:26] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, too slow this time ...
[13:26] <Ben__> Thanks for the help for getting me there! =)
[13:26] <Ben__> Bye
[13:26] <BluesKaj> well , cfhowlett it's not pi**ing contest
[13:26] <BluesKaj> ':)
[13:26] <cfhowlett> Ben__, there is a ubuntu nexus 7 project...search it out
[13:27] <sarger001> Is this the ubuntu support channel?
[13:27] <cfhowlett> sarger001, indeed.  welcome.
[13:27] <Ben__> Ok, Thank you cfhowlett
[13:27] <LxKermit> do the repositories keep up a recent and good version of firefox just by typing 'sudo apt-get install firefox'?
[13:27] <cfhowlett> Ben__, have fun
[13:28] <sarger001> I'm running linux mint right now, after trying to install ubuntu. Ubuntu installation failed, but mint did not, though running the same installer (i think) I burnt the files the same and want to produce a disk for my friend but am afraid it won't work.
[13:28] <BluesKaj> LxKermit, yes
[13:28] <LxKermit> BluesKaj - thanks
[13:28] <ikonia> sarger001: it's actually a different install routine, mint changes it
[13:28] <ikonia> sarger001: they are not comparible like that
[13:28] <cfhowlett> sarger001, you want to make an ubuntu disk and it didn't even work for you?
[13:28] <sarger001> Nope
[13:28] <sarger001> Mint did
[13:28] <sarger001> I'm running mint right now
[13:29] <cfhowlett> sarger001, pretty sure mint has disk making tools included ...
[13:29] <sarger001> Ubuntu did not install correctly and hung on the 'install ubuntu' option
[13:29] <sarger001> I burnt both disks on windows
[13:30] <cfhowlett> sarger001, how did you download the iso?  did you verify/md5sum the iso before burning the disk?
[13:30] <sarger001> Yep, it booted but hung on the loading screen
[13:31] <sarger001> Made another disk and failed
[13:31] <Guest42587> ээ
[13:31] <Guest42587> аллё
[13:31] <Guest42587> есть кто
[13:31] <FloodBot1> Guest42587: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:31] <cfhowlett> sarger001, actual disk not a USB?
[13:31] <Guest42587> чё
[13:31] <BluesKaj> sarger001, there's a bug with some hardware recognition with the installer, unfortunately..it might work on your friend's pc
[13:31] <cfhowlett> !ru|Guest42587,
[13:31] <sarger001> I used a disk, yes
[13:32] <Guest42587> иди нахуй шлюха
[13:32] <Guest42587> эээээ
[13:32] <Guest42587> суки
[13:32] <FloodBot1> Guest42587: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:32] <Guest42587> чё
[13:32] <Guest42587> иди нахуй
[13:32] <BluesKaj> !ru | Guest42587
[13:33] <BluesKaj> wow the bot is slow today
[13:33] <cfhowlett> sarger001, may I suggest you consider the USB option next time.
[13:33] <sarger001> OK
[13:33] <lewik> who use simon?
[13:34] <cfhowlett> !info simon
[13:35] <BluesKaj> sarger001, http://askubuntu.com/questions/204771/ubuntu-12-10-installation-hangs-at-preparing-to-install-ubuntu
[13:35] <sarger001> thanks
[13:36] <sarger001>  I can't even live boot
[13:36] <sarger001> from the disk
[13:36] <cfhowlett> sarger001, how did you get the iso?
[13:36] <cfhowlett> sarger001, skip that
[13:36] <sarger001> from the ubuntu site
[13:37] <nkvorn_> i have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my server. how can i find out if NAPI is enebled in the kernel?
[13:37] <Alocer> maybe the file is corupted ????
[13:37] <sarger001> Nope alocer, i made 4 disks
[13:37] <cfhowlett> sarger001, I've had much better luck using the .torrent than direct download of the ISO.  torrent have more robust error check and correction than a download.  and one should ALWAYS check the iso with md5sum
[13:37] <cfhowlett> !md5sum
[13:38] <cfhowlett> sarger001, bad iso 's happen to good people.
[13:38] <lewik> cfhowlett: its speech recognise
[13:38] <cfhowlett> lewik, ok.  Sorry. I don't know anything about it .
[13:39] <sarger001> OK
[13:39] <sarger001> I need to install ubuntu on my friends pc
[13:39] <sarger001> thanks
[13:39] <sarger001> :D
[13:39] <cfhowlett> sarger001, best of luck
[13:39] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, I've had better experience with direct DL from the OS site then with torents
[13:40] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, ymmv.  Last time, I got ubuntustudio 2gigs dvd in about 15 minutes on torrent
[13:41] <BluesKaj> speed isn't the determining factor , aamof speed can be a detriment to a clean sum , cfhowlett
[13:42] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, agreed.  now that I'm in china, direct download is quite unworkable.  torrent is the only reasonable option.  not speedy but a clean ISO.
[13:43] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, ok , well we all have to use what works best for us
[13:43] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, :)
[13:49] <sevenforall> Hey
[13:49] <sevenforall> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04, and the audio icon just disappeared from the panel
[13:52] <svip> I've accidentally removed myself from the sudoers file, is there any I can do to recover my root account?
[13:53] <svip> I got confused, because I assumed the sudo group was called wheel.
[13:55] <llutz> svip: start from live-cd or in rescue mode and add yourself to "sudo" group again
[13:55] <svip> Ah good idea.
[13:55] <Denommus> hi
[13:55] <cfhowlett> Denommus, greetings
[13:56] <Denommus> I'm trying to use the Ubuntu SDK, but it gives me the error 'module "QmlProject" is not installed'
[13:56] <Denommus> what does this mean?
[13:56] <cfhowlett> Denommus, ask in #ubuntu-devel  for developers
[13:56] <Denommus> thank you
[13:57] <rcmaehl> Alright #ubuntu, I just did a clean 12.10 64-bit install and it's been forever since I did a clean install, so I need package recommendations. Perferably some good customization packages
[13:58] <rcmaehl> also, does anyone know what happened to ubuntu tweak?
[13:59] <cfhowlett> rcmaehl, UT is still out there but it's not and never was in the repos ... cuz it BREAKS things.
[13:59] <MrBlaise> Hey! anyone have any suggestions about the anti-virus software which one should I download?
[13:59] <cfhowlett> !virug
[13:59] <cfhowlett> !virus
[13:59] <rcmaehl> xD
[13:59] <svip> llutz: How do I make the hd writeable?
[13:59] <sevenforall> That's wrong, I'd say
[13:59] <sevenforall> There are definitely Linux viruses, it's just really hard to catch them, yet
[14:00] <rcmaehl> Ubuntu is back in the DOS stage of Viruses
[14:00] <rcmaehl> Like back in 1990 when there was only like 200 viruses and they spread manually
[14:00] <rcmaehl> That's where Ubuntu is at
[14:00] <MrBlaise> cfhowlettm haha thanks, but yeah there are some viruses and I wanna make sure I don
[14:00] <MrBlaise> have them
[14:00] <llutz> svip: mount it, then "sudo nano /mntpoint/etc/group"
[14:00] <jpds> sevenforall: No, sorry, that's not true...
[14:00] <rcmaehl> Ubuntu isn't something where viruses can easily spread
[14:01] <MrBlaise> rcmaehl I understand and it is great!
[14:01] <rcmaehl> Ubuntu, and linux in general, has too many infinite customization options which basically throws stability out the window for almost every virus
[14:01] <cfhowlett> !clamav|MrBlaise,
[14:01] <MrBlaise> another reason why I'm using it :) however I do pass files between my windows and my ubuntu
[14:02] <cfhowlett> MrBlaise, look for virus protection in the ubuntu Software Center
[14:02] <rcmaehl> chkrootkit
[14:03] <MrBlaise> cfhowlett, Allright thanks.
[14:03] <cfhowlett> MrBlaise, best o fluck
[14:03] <jpds> rcmaehl: A rootkit is not a virus.
[14:03] <rcmaehl> It's still malware
[14:03] <lunitik> MrBlaise: You probably want clamav, a rootkit is not the same thing.
[14:03] <rcmaehl> Kinda
[14:03] <lunitik> rcmaehl: no
[14:03] <jpds> Anyway.
[14:04] <jpds> !ot
[14:04] <rcmaehl> oh yeah
[14:07] <xkernel> why unsupported updates are selected by default?
[14:07] <cfhowlett> xkernel, unsupported updates?  not selected by default.
[14:07] <sevenforall> Does anyone happen to know how to get the audio panel icon back on Ubuntu 12.04?
[14:07] <rcmaehl> I <3 ubuntu, runs on this old dual-core acer great
[14:08] <sevenforall> rcmaehl: You'd probably be even better off with Xubuntu :o
[14:09] <rcmaehl> It's not THAT old
[14:09] <rcmaehl> Early 2000s maybe, Aspire 4720z series (a ton of replacement parts from different models in that series)
[14:09] <flcl> how to find my.ini in Ubuntu?
[14:10] <cfhowlett> flcl, .ini?  for what program?
[14:10] <jackyyll> is it possible to move /var and /opt to another hard drive with only one partition? or do i need to have a separate partition on that drive for each one?
[14:10] <flcl> cfhowlett, musqld
[14:10] <flcl> *mysqld
[14:11] <flcl> *mysql
[14:11] <rcmaehl> Also, for some reason ubuntu 12.10 64-bit detects my adhoc network but it's grayed out and I can't connect to it
[14:11] <cfhowlett> flcl, so you want the user configuration file?
[14:11] <rcmaehl> Is there any way to resolve this
[14:12] <cfhowlett> flcl, locate *.ini will display all
[14:12] <flcl> cfhowlett, I want to add a line there
[14:12] <flcl> mmm, how can I search for a specific file in ubuntu?
[14:13] <svip> flcl: find or locate?
[14:13] <YueFairchild> My mom has an absolutely ancient laptop, like circa 2005. Windows 7 is mind-numbingly slow. Would Ubuntu be any better?
[14:13] <cfhowlett> flcl, locate filename or wildcard.name
[14:13] <flcl> locate my.ini shows nothing
[14:13] <cfhowlett> flcl, locate *.ini
[14:13] <flcl> locate *.ini shows too many )
[14:13] <RZAFC> anyone know how to get metaspoit on a ppc with lubuntu?
[14:14] <stianhj> Is there a download for the new phone version of Ubuntu somewhere?
[14:14] <sevenforall> ping
[14:14] <cfhowlett> flcl, locate *.ini | grep sql*
[14:14] <sevenforall|THIC> eh, whops, wrong channel :) cheers
[14:14] <YueFairchild> Or is that too intensive for something that old?
[14:14] <captine> YueFairchild, you could run a light version of ubuntu like xubuntu and i am pretty sure it will be snappier than 7
[14:15] <tockitj> do you think that ubuntu is designed for black people ?
[14:15] <flcl> cfhowlett, thanks! found it
[14:15] <cfhowlett> YueFairchild, lubuntu and xubuntu are optimized for low spec and older machines.  I suspect she'd be thrilled with either.
[14:15] <RZAFC> anyone know how to get metaspoit on a ppc with lubuntu?
[14:15] <rcmaehl> !ops tockitj
[14:16] <DJones> tockitj: Stop that, its not appropriate
[14:16] <tockitj> seriously they are consistently pushing with dark design and African motives
[14:17] <rcmaehl> Obvious troll was obvious
[14:17] <cfhowlett> DJones, thanks.
[14:17] <YueFairchild> I see...
[14:18] <YueFairchild> Which would you suggest, lubuntu or xubuntu?
[14:18] <YueFairchild> And these have a friendly UI, right? She's like, sixty.
[14:18] <cfhowlett> YueFairchild, download both.  they're small.  try em out.
[14:18] <YueFairchild> Okay.
[14:18] <AnonTrack> Algum br?
[14:18] <flcl> how do I know which configuration file is mysql using? config.huge.ini config.medium.ini config.sqmall.ini
[14:18] <cfhowlett> YueFairchild, xubuntu is possibly more "windows" like and lubuntu possibly more "osx" like
[14:18] <ThinkT510> !br | AnonTrack
[14:19] <cfhowlett> flcl, ask #mysql?
[14:19] <flcl> how?
[14:19] <cfhowlett> flcl, or #ubuntu-server ...
[14:19] <rcmaehl> cfhowlett, Kubuntu is more "windows" like than xubuntu in my opinion'
[14:19] <flcl> oh
[14:19] <cfhowlett> rcmaehl, maybe.  but kubuntu didn't come up in the conversation.
[14:21] <RZAFC> anyone know if I can install ubuntu on a ppc 64 1.5ghz
[14:21] <RZAFC> g4*
[14:21] <ThinkT510> !ppc | RZAFC
[14:22] <zatan> hey how can I add this as ppa  ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/xapian-core/1.2.12-1
[14:22] <ThinkT510> !ppa | zatan
[14:23] <rcmaehl> I need help connecting to an adhoc network in ubuntu 12.10 64-bit. Ubuntu detects the network yet the option to choose to connect to it is grayed out
[14:25] <yourimym1> hello world , is there a link to explain diffrence between nvidia drivers for ubuntu (opensource-property) currents updates etc.
[14:27] <yourimym1> ubottu ?
[14:27] <yourimym1> ubottu:  is there a link to explain diffrence between nvidia drivers for ubuntu (opensource-property) currents updates etc.
[14:27] <hatake> my hotot eror, Can not get token from the server.
[14:27] <cfhowlett> !nvidia|yourimym1,
[14:27] <hatake> how to fix
[14:28] <cfhowlett> hatake, server issues?  ask in #ubuntu-server
[14:29] <rcmaehl> The adhoc worked last install fine however wasn't detected automatically
[14:31] <yourimym1> cfhowlett:  how to know if am using the best driver for my vga, or getting best performance for it
[14:31] <yourimym1> ubottu:  how to know if am using the best driver for my vga, or getting best performance for it
[14:32] <cfhowlett> yourimym1, I'm sure there are assessment/measurement tools, but I don't know.  So long as it works, I'm happy.  That said, a reasonable argument might be that you can play, say HD videos ???
[14:32] <rcmaehl> I think my adhoc issues have something to do with my wifi interface showing up as eth1
[14:33] <Thoth_Castel> I have just installed ubuntu on an HP EliteBook 8470s and once restarted got a flashing screen....just light a night club
[14:33] <RZAFC> what can I use to burn the ubuntu lts(ppc) live cd in windows 7
[14:33] <Thoth_Castel> why has that happened?
[14:33] <yourimym1> cfhowlett: is there a command to know this or just try HD videos :)
[14:33] <cfhowlett> Thoth_Castel, get a cloud machine and strobe lights and ... no OK.
[14:34] <rcmaehl> Thoth_Castel: update your graphic drivers
[14:34] <cfhowlett> yourimym1, try the video .. and ...
[14:34] <cfhowlett> !glxinfo
[14:34] <jackyyll> if i mount a different partition as /var but i have a var directory on my /, the one that's on / will be unaffected correct?
[14:34] <cfhowlett> hey thread: what cli command to test video performance?  glxinfo or something???
[14:35] <RZAFC1> what can I use to burn the ubuntu lts(ppc) live cd in windows 7
[14:35] <BluesKaj> glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[14:35] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett,^
[14:36] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, , you need mesa-utils installed for that command
[14:36] <yourimym1> http://pastebin.com/sLKF4NZB
[14:36] <DJones> RZAFC1: I think I used to use Infrarecorder years ago to burn any iso's on Windows, not sure if it still runs under Win 7 though, I'd be surprised if Win 7 didn't have a burn iso option in the right click menu though
[14:37] <RZAFC1> can I use imgburn to put a ubuntu ppc iso on a live cd in windows 7?
[14:37] <tcrouto> RZAFC1, go download imgburn
[14:37] <cfhowlett> yourimym1, mesa-utils and glxinfo will tell you ... something about your gpu performance
[14:37] <yourimym1> thz all
[14:37] <RZAFC> tcrouto: I already have it
[14:37] <yourimym1> thx*
[14:38] <tcrouto> theres nothing special about a ubuntu iso... it burns just like any other image
[14:38] <RZAFC> cool
[14:43] <RZAFC> I can download things like metasploit on lubuntu for some reason, is that normal?
[14:43] <RZAFC> can't*
[14:43] <cfhowlett> RZAFC, repos
[14:43] <RZAFC> cfhowlett: what is repos?
[14:44] <BluesKaj> !repositories
[14:44] <BluesKaj> RZAFC,^
[14:45] <cfhowlett> RZAFC, never mind.  metasploit seems not to be in repos ... but I can DL with no problem.  Are  you attempting to this at home or work/school?  Perhaps a router setting or policy prevents it ...
[14:46] <RZAFC> cfhowlett: ya, repos is synaptics package manager right?
[14:46] <RZAFC> apt-get etc
[14:47] <cfhowlett> RZAFC, yes, but metasploit is not in there.
[14:47] <RZAFC> ya, i know. Aleady tried that.
[14:47] <rcmaehl> I need help with ubuntu 12.10 64-bit. I had wireless earlier but couldn't connect to adhoc networks, then after installing updates and restarting my wireless card no longer is detected at all
[14:47] <RZAFC> I think my only option is to switch my os to ubuntu lts ppc
[14:47] <urlwolf> I use colemak. I wanted the login screen to use it too (lightdm), so I used settings to change the system languaje to 'us colemak'. Now I see in TTYs that the system is indeed colemak. But I cannot log in in loghtdm! not even typing the password in qwerty. Any idea why?
[14:48] <bhavesh> How am I supposed to resume utorrent torrents which I started in windows 8 in transmission in ubuntu 12.04.2?
[14:48] <urlwolf> this happened after reboot
[14:48] <bhavesh> Just set the download folder for transmission download same as utorrnet?
[14:48] <tcrouto> bhavesh, thats not really a question suited for this channel, but all you need to do is point transmission to the folder
[14:48] <bhavesh> I copied my half downloaded files to my ubuntu's downloads folder
[14:48] <AppleJuice> bhavesh, Yes. And open the .torrent files again.
[14:49] <bhavesh> AppleJuice, tcrouto okay, ty
[14:49] <tcrouto> yw
[14:49] <theadmin> urlwolf: I'm not sure what colemak is, but I suppose you need to set the keyboard in /etc/X11/Xorg.conf as well
[14:50] <AppleJuice> bhavesh, utorrent will start checking the files and will continue where windows left off.
[14:50] <bhavesh> opening the utorrents .torrent file saved in windows appdata folder resumed my download :)
[14:50] <bhavesh> okay.
[14:51] <Sahan> Hi...I'm using ubuntu 12.04 on toshiba satellite c600. Every time I turn on my pc it automaticall set brightness to max. So I have to set it back to a comfortable level. Please tell me a way to set it permanantly to a desired leve...Sorry about my English..
[14:51] <urlwolf> theadmin: I hoped the gnome system settings would have done that for me
[14:51] <urlwolf> let me check
[14:51] <oleg> hi!
[14:51] <gugus77> oh nice flood bots ....
[14:52] <theadmin> urlwolf: It should, but it wouldn't affect LightDM, that starts before GNOME.
[14:52] <urlwolf> theadmin: would switching to the 'new' gdm help? I'm using ubutu with gnome shell, maybe it undertstands the setting it self sets :)
[14:53] <theadmin> urlwolf: Use this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1690717/ and place it either in xorg.conf itself, or in any file starting with a two-digit number and ending with .conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ (e.g. /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-colemak.conf)
[14:54] <tcrouto> Sahan: take a look at this link. http://askubuntu.com/questions/145314/how-to-save-brightness-settings
[14:55] <bhavesh> I always get a black screen with my mouse pointer on it when I resume from suspend(automatically lock after 10 minutes), I know its a bug, but it says Fix Issued on Launchpad. I updated my ubuntu from Ubuntu Main servers yesterday but it still did not fix the problem. Normal desktop comes back only by pressing Alt + prnt scrn sys + k as stated on the bug page.
[14:55] <soahccc> Hmm is MAILTO in /etc/crontab applied to all cronfiles? I would like to get all cron outputs despite the user running them
[14:55] <bhavesh> what am supposed to do?
[14:55] <Sahan> tcrouto : thanx I'll see it...
[14:55] <bhavesh> Ubuntu 12.04.2*
[14:56] <theadmin> bhavesh: "Fix Released" simply means there's a patch, it doesn't necessarily mean it's already in the repos.
[14:56] <ddssc> hey I'm looking for a ftp client with good shell api. something like ftp connect ip x.x.x.x, ftp put sourcefile targetfile etc
[14:56] <bhavesh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/966744
[14:56] <Myrtti> ddssc: "ftp"
[14:56] <bhavesh> theadmin, okay.
[14:56] <theadmin> ddssc: Uh, the traditional "ftp" seems to do what you want
[14:57] <jpmh> I need to be able to log off from the terminal window - in previous versions of the OS I could do gnome-session-save but this has gone, despite the fact that there is still a reference to it in the man pages for gnome-session -  how do I do this?
[14:57] <ddssc> theadmin, where can I find docu?
[14:57] <bbryant> hey, I'm having a problem with getting hdmi sound to show up in sound settings when I plug in hdmi? does anyone know where to go from here?
[14:58] <yourimym11> open source or property is better ?
[14:59] <urlwolf> theadmin: bad news, I cannot even log into a TTY
[14:59] <ddssc> btw, my intention is to call ftp client from a script, so there can be no dialogs, enter this enter that. I need to have ftp connect x.x.x.x user pw , no dialogs
[14:59] <urlwolf> god,. I lock myself out!
[14:59] <theadmin> ddssc: What do you think expect is for? :P
[15:00] <urlwolf> theadmin: this is not X
[15:00] <urlwolf> so the problem must be somewhere else...
[15:00] <theadmin> urlwolf: Hm, okay, then I'm not sure
[15:00] <urlwolf> argh!
[15:00] <urlwolf> ah
[15:01] <urlwolf> found it
[15:01] <urlwolf> my passwd has a key that I moved with xmodmap :)
[15:01] <urlwolf> hehe
[15:02] <diegosnat> hi guys... I have got a problem. If I open a luks partition and I close it afterward and I try again to reopen it, I cannot do it. Is there any reason why?
[15:02] <yourimym11> vga open source or property is better ?
[15:03] <tcrouto> yourimym11, propriatary will give much better performance
[15:03] <roniez_> Anybody here using lottanzb?
[15:03] <yourimym11> thx
[15:03] <yourimym11> open source slower ?
[15:04] <queso> What group does a user have to be in to be able to edit network-manager settings?
[15:04] <theadmin> yourimym11: Not always. Sometimes opensource ones work better.
[15:04] <diegosnat> hi guys... I have got a problem. If I open a luks partition and I close it afterward and I try again to reopen it, I cannot do it. Is there any reason why?
[15:05] <theadmin> queso: None, really. If you mean systemwide, you need to be able to get root access, and that's configurable via sudo
[15:05] <Safa_[A_boy]> hi all, will ubuntu for tablets be translated?
[15:05] <theadmin> Safa_[A_boy]: I don't see why not.
[15:06] <yourimym11> theadmin: how to figure this out , any tests ?
[15:06] <queso> theadmin: How do I have my VPN connection settings available for me? They aren't showing. And I already have sudo access.
[15:06] <theadmin> queso: Hm, what do you mean? What kind of VPN?
[15:07] <theadmin> yourimym11: There are a few I know of, but none are really accurate. Try running some sort of intense 3D game, I guess, see which performs better.
[15:07] <Safa_[A_boy]> theadmin, maybe it will be a Separated project :|
[15:07] <yourimym11> theadmin: suggest a game for me for example !
[15:07] <theadmin> yourimym11: Well, Urban Terror and Alien Arena are the first free ones that come to mind.  Odd. Was almost certain it's there.
[15:09] <theadmin> Oh well
[15:10] <yourimym11> Urban Terror yup didnt fond it neither
[15:10] <queso> theadmin: If I configure a VPN connection in network manager, it doesn't show up in the dropdown list. So I can't connect and I can't figure out why.
[15:10] <YueFairchild> Okay. I have xubuntu's installer on a flash drive, no blank CDs, and the thing's bios won't boot from USB.
[15:10] <YueFairchild> Suggestions?
[15:11] <sgtkilljoy> YueFairchild: already have grub installed?
[15:11] <theadmin> YueFairchild: What does it have on it now?
[15:11] <queso> theadmin: Nevermind, disabled networking and re-enabled it, and how it's showing. Thanks for your help.
[15:11] <theadmin> queso: Heh. Crazy thing.
[15:13] <Orpheon> Hello, I'm having problems with installing hamachi on a 64-bit 12.04 system. "hamachi-init: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory".
[15:14] <Orpheon> Apparently this thread has a fix for it, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1243005 , but the first fix doesn't work, the second one gives me a 404 error on the HTTP request and I don't really want to add a hardy repository for precise
[15:14] <Orpheon> any ideas or suggestions?
[15:15] <Orpheon> hello?
[15:16] <m3pow> is there a good tutorial on install steam on 64bit 12.10 ?
[15:17] <YueFairchild> I'm trying to rig it up with Unetbootin or whatever.
[15:17] <theadmin> m3pow: Eh, it's in the Software Center
[15:18] <x0xhk79f8086k809>  /JOIN #GAZA
[15:18] <sevenforall> Does anyone know how to get back the audio indicator applet in the panel on Ubuntu 12.04?
[15:18] <theadmin> YueFairchild: That won't matter really. What OS does the computer currently have, if any?
[15:18] <xangua> sevenforall: did you uninstall pulseaudio¿
[15:18] <sevenforall> xangua: I did, but I reinstalled it
[15:18] <m3pow> was in the software center, i tried to install it from there, after that SC crashed, now i can't find it
[15:19] <theadmin> sevenforall: You're missing indicator-applet, I think.
[15:19] <diegosnat> hi guys... I have got a problem. If I open a luks partition and I close it afterward and I try again to reopen it, I cannot do it. Is there any reason why?
[15:19] <theadmin> sevenforall: Or even just indicator-sound
[15:19] <sevenforall> I'll check that
[15:19] <genii-around> Orpheon: Hamachi is not an Ubuntu package, perhaps ask in their support channel of #hamachi
[15:19] <theadmin> m3pow: It should work, try again -- SC isn't perfect but works most of the time
[15:20] <m3pow> ok, i will thanks !
[15:20] <Orpheon> genii-around, my problem isn't really hamachi and more how to install the correct (deprecated) version of libstdc++.so.5
[15:21] <theadmin> m3pow: There's also a .deb package on their website which you can download and double-click to install but it's not recommended (no automatic updates)
[15:22] <m3pow> i see, but i still can't get it in SC
[15:23] <m3pow> it was a 64bit version, tried to install it, crashed, GONE
[15:23] <theadmin> m3pow: Hm, run "sudo apt-get -f install" on the terminal
[15:24] <ddssc> so im trying: lftp open -u uname,pw -p 21 servername. It hangs on [Resolving host address...], what am I doing wrong?
[15:24] <m3pow> so i did
[15:25] <oleg> Интересно, а по русски тут ко-нибудь спикает?
[15:25] <theadmin> !ru | oleg
[15:25] <Orpheon> So actually, every solution proposed here ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1243005 ) doesn't work, including the last one. Any ideas on how to get this to work?
[15:26] <m3pow> nothing on the Steam installer.
[15:26] <Hanumaan> how to see if port 80 is open in ubuntu ?
[15:26] <m3pow> should i try a rr ?
[15:26] <theadmin> m3pow: There probably won't be, but it would likely show up in software center after that
[15:26] <theadmin> Hanumaan: The firewall doesn't block anything by default.
[15:26] <ddssc> so im trying: lftp open -u uname,pw -p 21 servername. It hangs on [Resolving host address...], what am I doing wrong?
[15:27] <m3pow> thanks, will restart now !
[15:27] <ddssc> am I missing something , some parameters/quotes whatever?
[15:28] <Hanumaan> theadmin, I am using some proxy and trying to run some java application which is not reaching http port also my java program http://pastebin.com/h9pn5Vhz so what could be the problem ?
[15:28] <theadmin> Hanumaan: I am not familiar with Java.
[15:29] <Hanumaan> theadmin, how to see if port 80 is open or closed in ubuntu ?
[15:29] <mcbootin> hello. i have come for tech support. i am running ubuntu 12.04.2 lts edition. while practicing programming i accidentally damaged my kernal. i decided to back up all my personal files and roll back my edition to 12.4.1 edition. so i downloaded the boot iso and i made a usb boot disc, however my system refuses to boot from the flash drive i used to turn into the boot iso
[15:30] <theadmin> Hanumaan: sudo ufw status numbered # No output = no firewall rules = it's open
[15:30] <airlynx> Can someone explain what this graph means: http://imgur.com/bhdt4ff   My laptop runs 24/7 on power and occasionally I catch it charging for no reason
[15:30] <sgtkilljoy> Hanumaan: sudo netstat -lptu
[15:30] <mcbootin> how do i get my system to boot from the iso i made on the flash drive
[15:30] <Guest30467> How's Ubuntu with an AMD GPU? Especially interested in Wine, how is that with an AMD GPU?
[15:30] <theadmin> Guest30467: WINE only works with fglrx most of the time
[15:31] <Guest30467> Ok, would you recommend an nVidia card instead?
[15:31] <awktion> !ops | nir joinspam/possible malware link
[15:31] <theadmin> Guest30467: (that is their propretiary driver, and it doesn't support all cards, only more-or-less recent ones)
[15:31] <Pici> awktion: I *just* kickbanned them.
[15:31] <Myrtti> awktion: already removed
[15:31] <awktion> lol
[15:31] <theadmin> Guest30467: Well, yeah, nVidia tends to have better support.
[15:31] <awktion> sorry
[15:31] <Guest30467> theadmin: I've a HD6950, guessing that's recent enough to be supported.
[15:31] <Pici> its okay :)
[15:31] <awktion> on the ball eh
[15:31] <mcbootin> anyone have any ideas?
[15:32] <Guest30467> I'll just have to grab an nVidia card some day :p
[15:32] <Guest30467> Want to give up Windows!
[15:32] <Guest30467> But not my gaming :P
[15:32] <theadmin> Guest30467: Eh, Steam is around for Linux now, so gaming won't be a problem in a couple years
[15:33] <mcbootin> did anyone read the issue i have been having? or am i in the wrong channel for tech support?
[15:33] <Guest30467> theadmin: exactly :p
[15:33] <xxiao> now when I double click *.txt my open office will open it, how to change it to other editors?
[15:33] <echinos_> I'm using a virtualbox VM with windows inside to use go to meeting, but I have a horrible echo to the other people, and they can hear stuff that my ubunto host is playing
[15:33] <echinos_> ubuntu*
[15:34] <xxiao> tried system-preference-preferredapplications, no help
[15:34] <theadmin> xxiao: Right click, properties, open with
[15:34] <kleopatre2> bonjour
[15:34] <Guest30467> salut
[15:35] <GirlyGirl> !fr | kleopatre2
[15:35] <m3pow> ok, so nothing about steam in Software Center
[15:35] <xxiao> theadmin: it's in the downloads of firefox window, i think i need reconfigure firefox for that. thanks
[15:35] <m3pow> something is not right here
[15:35] <mcbootin> hello. i have come for tech support. i am running ubuntu 12.04.2 lts edition. while practicing with the linux terminal using the text book "the command line " i accidentally damaged my kernal. i decided to back up all my personal files and roll back my edition to 12.4.1 edition. so i downloaded the boot iso and i made a usb boot disc, however my system refuses to boot from the flash drive i used to turn into the boot iso
[15:35] <mcbootin> how do i get my system to boot from the iso i made on the flash drive
[15:36] <dr_willis> how did you make the usb
[15:36] <clue_h> mcbootin, have you tried yumi and changed your boot order in bios?
[15:36] <dr_willis> you could just fix the kernel also. ;-)
[15:36] <mcbootin> i used the ubuntu start up disk maker that came with ubuntu
[15:37] <theadmin> mcbootin: That normally works, but just for the heck of it, use dd, tends to be safer
[15:37] <dr_willis> are you sure your bios is set to boot from usb?
[15:37] <edheldil> hi, was there a change of policy between lucid and precise regarding apt-get? Previously cowbuilder was able to install as a build-dependency other pkg version than the highest one, e.g. 1.1 if there's Build-Depends: utils (<< 1.2). But it does not do it in precise and fails
[15:37] <GirlyGirl> mcbootin: Does this bootable disk work on another computer?
[15:38] <mcbootin> i think i am going to attemt to change my bios boot settings because thats what i had to do to get windows off my comp and linux onto it in the first place