[00:00] <Abhish> Linkmaster: I love my openSUSE. Even under KDE this latest version outperforms the XFCE based Xubuntu, by a wide margin.
[00:00] <Abhish> Linkmaster: The YaST tool is an amazing, wonderful, and mildly erotic thing.
[00:02] <Linkmaster> Abhish: its probably because yours is good software. The software our school forces us to use is basically Windows in Kiosk mode :P you can see why my first experience was bad at best
[00:03] <KerrMD> Would anyone happen to of a plugin or program that can tie into dolphin allowing me to right click an iso and mount it? dvd images and whatnot?
[00:04] <KerrMD> Every program I've seen is gtk based as opposed to qt
[00:04] <dijonyummy> my vm has 2GB of memory thats more than enough, actually i installed ubuntu, then added the kde desktop to it
[00:04] <Linkmaster> KerrMD: someone could probably script it..if you know what your doing, you can make it a shellscript. perhaps
[00:05] <KerrMD> Linkmaster: I am rubbish at scripting.. a complete and utter noob.
[00:05] <Linkmaster> and dijonyummy thats why. Your using KDE libs and GTK+ libs on the same machine, no wonder its slow
[00:05] <Logan_> Abhish: Have you tried Gnome3 on OpenSUSE?
[00:05] <Abhish> Logan_: No, not interested really.
[00:05] <Linkmaster> KerrMD: same here :P I know[knew] the command line for it though, but it didn't work too well
[00:06] <Abhish> Logan_: The feedback I have heard though is that it is well implemented. Gnome3 is still a bit buggy though, as would be expected.
[00:07] <Logan_> Abhish: I'm considering downloading Fedora or OpenSUSE to try it.
[00:07] <Linkmaster> Gnome3 is what..three weeks old?
[00:08] <Abhish> Logan_: Both are nice. Fedora is much better polished than Kubuntu was when I was using it not long ago. openSUSE is king of KDE though.
[00:10] <KerrMD> Lol... vlc had what I wanted all along. I did not notice the "menu" icon at the bottom... now to get my sound to work properly within vlc
[00:10] <Linkmaster> Abhish: thats arguable, and opinion. I like Kubuntu, since its specifically for KDE. I haven't seen something as well integrated as Kubuntu
[00:11] <KerrMD> be back a bit later. Thanks for the assistance Linkmaster
[00:14] <Abhish> Linkmaster: Kubuntu improved when they moved to 4.5 or 4.6 I don't remember which. But before that I found it to be slow, and painfully unstable.
[00:15] <Linkmaster> Oh, agreed. Most users state that 3.* was bad in general, though that was KDE, rather then Kubuntu
[00:16] <Abhish> Linkmaster: True, later versions of KDE benefitted everyone. But I did find it in Kubuntu to be significantly more painful than Fedora 14 or openSUSE 11.3 implementations.
[00:17] <Linkmaster> It could be userpreference
[00:18] <Linkmaster> There are some things that are annoying, and some that are amazing. its a world of choice, Linux is. I respect your choice of openSUSE, I'm glad that your happy with it. It may/may not work for me, I don't know. I know that I don't like Gnome openSUSE or Fedora, or Mint, or really anything gnome actually
[00:22] <franklin> coe
[00:27] <Abhish> Linkmaster: KDE is prettier, and has a much more powerful application environment.
[00:28] <Linkmaster> Yep, which is why I said "no, never, not happening" to gnome
[00:37] <valorie> hey y'all, now about taking this discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic?
[00:37] <valorie> #kubuntu-offtopic
[00:38] <valorie> too much chat and the support questions get lost
[01:17] <yongsu> hi
[01:37] <greyboy> yo
[01:38] <greyboy> how do i get sound going in kubuntu, i have a xtreame gamer x-fi creative card
[01:39] <greyboy> hello
[01:43]  * wn1zid will race his gnome against any kde machine
[01:43] <wn1zid> lol
[01:45] <hakamy> which version of gnome do u use, wn1zid?
[01:46] <wn1zid> i havnt tried 3 yet, still 2 buggy
[01:47] <wn1zid> and personally, i think (like alot of others) that they screwed up by instituting unity.
[01:56] <hakamy> is the Unity interface that bad?
[01:56]  * hakamy haven't tried it yet
[01:57] <wn1zid> hakamy-  2 many distros that sent out on doing it, dropped it not long after.
[02:17] <Aniar> ok, pulse just isn't quite right here...
[02:21] <JuJuBee> Is there an equivalent in kde for Places->Connect To Server in gnome?
[02:23] <Aniar> JuJuBee: open up Dolphin, type the server name and path in the address bar
[02:23] <Aniar> JuJuBee: you can also try the KDE launcher -> Computer -> Network
[02:25] <Aniar> I need a "reset pulse configuration" howto, my google skilz are failing me. I don't want to start asking questions till I'm in a known state
[02:25] <Aniar> anyone know one? (it's not in the !pulse wiki)
[02:31] <valorie> Aniar: how about deleting .pulseaudio, whereever that might be?
[02:32] <Aniar> valorie: just in my home?  (and it's apparently ".pulse/")
[02:33] <Aniar> valorie: or is that as much of a guess as I've been making this afternoon? :)
[02:34] <valorie> yes, in your home
[02:34] <valorie> I've done it once, and it fixed whatever problem I was having
[02:36] <valorie> http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2010/04/lucid-beta-bugs-and-alsamixer.html
[02:36] <valorie> oh, it was alsamixer, sorry
[02:38] <Aniar> valorie: yeah, alsa actually works (vmware plays sound)...
[02:38] <Aniar> valorie: well, now KDE plays sound.  let's see if multiple clients are fixed...
[02:40] <valorie> kewl!
[02:40] <Aniar> valorie: well, I'm back to my 10.10 issue: only one client can connect, others just hang.  So, once firefox plays a sound, pidgin can't give me "new IM" notifications, amarok can't play, etc.
[02:41] <valorie> I had that back in the day
[02:42] <valorie> pulseaudio fixed it
[02:42] <Aniar> lol.  pulseaudio *caused* it here
[02:42] <valorie> !alis
[02:42] <valorie> well, perhaps you should remove it then
[02:42] <valorie> hmmm, not #pulseaudio
[02:42] <Aniar> valorie: was considering it, but since it's default in 11.04+, it'll likely remain hard to keep it that way
[02:43] <Aniar> valorie: yeah, didn't see one, and most of the forums talk specifically about Gnome/Ubuntu fixes/changes
[02:43] <valorie> there is #pulsemedia
[02:43] <valorie> not sure that's right
[02:44] <valorie> the #phonon team might be able to help
[02:50] <Aniar> valorie: /join #phonon
[02:50] <Aniar> bah
[02:50] <Aniar> I can't type
[02:50] <FloodBotK1> Aniar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:51] <Aniar> ok
[02:51] <Aniar> i
[02:51] <Aniar> won't do that, or make this joke again.
[02:52]  * valorie is already in phonon anyway
[02:52] <valorie> :-)
[02:58] <newbiathon> can someone help me get sound and update my video card drivers, im runnin 64 bit
[03:00] <areichman> is there any way to install VirtualBox 3.2 on (k)ubuntu 11.04?
[03:03] <Newbiathon_> can someone help with a sound driver issue
[03:03] <newbiathon> oops sorry didn't see the other window
[03:25] <newbiathon> yo
[03:25] <helpmeout> anyone awake?
[03:27] <Newbiathon> can someone help with a sound driver issue?
[03:27] <Newbiathon> i have a soundd blaster xtreame gamer chip
[03:27] <Newbiathon> on 64 bit platform
[03:29] <Newbiathon> anyone here?
[03:31] <valorie> I'm here, but you haven't described the problem
[03:31] <valorie> so I have no clue if I can offer you help or not
[03:31] <valorie> !ask
[03:34] <Newbiathon> oh i need help getting sound drivers
[03:34] <Newbiathon> i have a creative sound blaster xtreme gamer card
[03:35] <Newbiathon> also need to get ati radeon h.d. 5850 drivers
[03:35] <Newbiathon> would that be in the  package kit?
[03:42] <valorie> Newbiathon: have you run jockey-kde?
[03:42] <valorie> or you can find it in the systemsettings
[03:45] <Newbiathon> where do i find the sys settings lol
[03:45] <Newbiathon> nm found it
[03:57] <Newbiathon> why is it that my windows is still on here partitioned but it doesn't ask me at bootup  which os to choose?
[04:58] <TeslaTony> How can I set my clock to use a 24hr instead of 12hr time?
[04:59] <valorie> when you right-click on the widget, I think there is a settings choice
[04:59] <valorie> yes, with the little wrench icon
[05:00] <TeslaTony> This is the one on the task bar
[05:06] <valorie> right, that's what I was talking about
[05:06] <valorie> widgets can live on the taskbar or desktop
[05:06] <valorie> taskbar is just another widget
[05:07] <corigo> Anyone point me at simple instructions for installing an app from a source tar.gz?
[05:08] <Helpmeout2> yo i messed up my kubuntu theme somehow
[05:08] <valorie> corigo: you should avoid that if at all possible
[05:08] <Helpmeout2> any way to go back
[05:08] <Helpmeout2> i don't want gnome ui
[05:08] <corigo> Not
[05:08] <valorie> sure, choose a different theme
[05:08] <valorie> corigo: why?
[05:08] <Helpmeout2> i was downloading so much at once i don't know what messed it up
[05:09] <Helpmeout2> was getting themes and programs and all
[05:10] <Helpmeout2> anyone
[05:10] <Helpmeout2> ?
[05:11] <Helpmeout2> help
[05:11] <Helpmeout2> i don't want to reinstall
[05:12] <valorie> !dpkg
[05:12] <valorie> hmmm, no info
[05:13] <Helpmeout2> how come nobody helps me
[05:13] <Helpmeout2> lol
[05:13] <Helpmeout2> is it the nickname
[05:13] <valorie> I'm looking something up for you
[05:13] <valorie> why are you complaining?
[05:14] <Helpmeout2> oh thnx
[05:14] <Helpmeout2> no im just ready to rip my hair out
[05:14] <valorie> in a console, run
[05:14] <valorie> dpkg --configure -a
[05:15] <valorie> that should fix any borked packages
[05:15] <valorie> it might take awhile
[05:16] <valorie> corigo: I know how to build from a tarball, but I'm reluctant to tell you
[05:16] <valorie> unless you explain why you can't install the usual way
[05:20] <Helpmeout2> what does the -a mean?
[05:20] <valorie> all
[05:21] <valorie> you can use --all instead if you like
[05:21] <Helpmeout2> type it in a terminal shell?
[05:22] <valorie> yes
[05:22] <valorie> or Konsole, or yakuake
[05:22] <valorie> whatever you use
[05:22] <corigo> New version only available in source tar ball
[05:22] <valorie> I see
[05:22] <Helpmeout2> with a / in front
[05:23] <Helpmeout2> ?
[05:23] <valorie> no one has packaged it yet?
[05:23] <corigo> yep
[05:23] <valorie> Helpmeout2: you'll have to do sudo in front of it
[05:23] <corigo> New Miro 4.01
[05:23] <valorie> it's a command
[05:23] <valorie> no /
[05:24] <valorie> corigo: have you thought of using Project Neon instead?
[05:24] <Helpmeout2> requires superuser
[05:24] <Helpmeout2> so sudo?
[05:24] <valorie> yes
[05:24] <Helpmeout2> sorry im new
[05:25] <valorie> corigo: have you seen http://www.getmiro.com/download/for-ubuntu/
[05:25] <corigo> I've already got Amarok, does it stream video from my windows machine?
[05:25] <valorie> Helpmeout2: we all start somewhere!
[05:25] <valorie> corigo: Amarok is a music player
[05:25] <valorie> you can install a video applet, which will play video podcasts
[05:25] <preecher> i was in the process of installing kubuntu restricted extras--the download has completed but its stuck at 67%  of the installing part--any ideas on how to fix or stop this
[05:26] <valorie> yikes, preecher
[05:26] <valorie> that sucks
[05:26] <valorie> you'll need to do what Helpmeout2 is doing
[05:26] <valorie> dpkg --configure -a
[05:26] <preecher> i know--idiot me installed linuxmint knowing i wouldnt like it and now im having to install kubu again
[05:27] <Helpmeout2> ok so "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[05:27] <valorie> but I would wait for awhile
[05:27] <Helpmeout2> just like that?
[05:27] <valorie> yes, without the quotes
[05:27] <Helpmeout2> ah kdesudo
[05:27] <valorie> no
[05:27] <valorie> kdesudo is for running apps
[05:27] <Helpmeout2> that didn't do anything
[05:27] <valorie> yes, it is doing something
[05:27] <valorie> just wait
[05:28] <Helpmeout2> ah man i typed it like 5 times lol
[05:28] <valorie> why type?
[05:28] <valorie> copy/paste is so much better
[05:28] <Helpmeout2> it just tabs down
[05:28] <Helpmeout2> this is on a diff. comp
[05:28] <valorie> ah
[05:28] <corigo> Thanks Valorie...
[05:28] <corigo> much better
[05:28] <valorie> is that what you want?
[05:28] <preecher> valerie ive been stuck at 67% for last our and 10 minutes so im gonna go ahead and follow with that command u gave
[05:28] <valorie> oh, good
[05:29] <valorie> ah
[05:29] <Helpmeout2> so how long do i wait?
[05:29] <Helpmeout2> i have 4 gigs of ram
[05:29] <valorie> so you get right back to the prompt?
[05:30] <valorie> if you are back to the prompt, it's done
[05:30] <valorie> maybe there was only one stuffed package
[05:31] <Helpmeout2> yeah im back
[05:31] <Helpmeout2> it just tabbed down a line
[05:31] <Helpmeout2> didn't do anything
[05:32] <valorie> I'm out of ideas then, sorry
[05:33] <valorie> dpkg is a miracle worker
[05:33] <Helpmeout2> np ill just reinstall the damn thing
[05:33] <valorie> perhaps you got a crappy theme with a bug
[05:33] <Helpmeout2> yeah
[05:33] <Helpmeout2> prob.
[05:33] <Helpmeout2> i got a little carried away
[05:33] <valorie> I love Oxygen, so I stick with it
[05:33] <Helpmeout2> now i remember why i quit using ubuntu
[05:34] <Helpmeout2> linux is so sensative
[05:34] <valorie> in general, the standard Kubuntu is exactly what I like
[05:34] <Helpmeout2> yeah
[05:34] <Helpmeout2> i liked the default
[05:34] <valorie> actually, I find it very robust
[05:34] <Helpmeout2> was just monkeying around
[05:34] <Helpmeout2> while waiting for downloads
[05:34] <Helpmeout2> son of .....
[05:34] <Helpmeout2> i had all the apps i wanted
[05:35] <Helpmeout2> guess they aren't going anywhere
[05:36] <valorie> you know, you could do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:36] <valorie> that will remove unneeded cruft
[05:36] <preecher> valerie--i did the command---now when i open kpackage its saying i have the restricted extras
[05:36] <valorie> super!
[05:36] <valorie> that's dpkg for ya
[05:36] <valorie> awesome
[05:37] <preecher> oh i thought it was like a delete--didnt know it finished the job---many thanks
[05:39] <valorie> no, it forces a finish
[05:39] <preecher> again thx-)
[05:41] <valorie> you are most welcome
[05:43] <Helpmeout2> well here we go again
[05:45] <Helpmeout2> can you change the name of the work station
[05:45] <Helpmeout2> once installed?
[05:45] <Helpmeout2> also i never could figure out my sound issue
[05:46] <valorie> your sound issue?
[05:46] <valorie> I don't know about the name
[05:46] <valorie> probably, but I don't know how
[05:46] <Helpmeout2> yah i have a x-fi xtreme gamer card
[05:47] <valorie> and did you use jockey-kde?
[05:48] <valorie> or systemsettings?
[05:48] <Helpmeout2> and also when i log in it doesn't ask if i want to log to my window partition
[05:48] <Helpmeout2> how do i get back to my win7 part
[05:48] <valorie> you might need to run grub repair
[05:48] <valorie> !grub2
[05:48] <Helpmeout2> k
[05:48] <valorie> use the second link for that
[05:49] <valorie> command might even be grub-repair
[05:50] <Helpmeout2> i don't mean to hurt kubuntu's feelings and i think it looks and has a way better feel
[05:50] <Helpmeout2> but my exp. with gnome were easier
[05:50] <Helpmeout2> so far
[05:50] <valorie> ok
[05:50] <Helpmeout2> for $x reason
[05:51] <valorie> I like gnome users
[05:51] <valorie> I just don't like *gnome*
[05:51] <valorie> but to each hir own
[05:51] <Helpmeout2> is there a way other than using wine to use my ipod touch on kubuntu
[05:51] <preecher> ive another question since im lurking about--is it ok to install packages from terminal as opposed to the kpackage--is it just as good is what i mean--reason im asking is the downloads seem to fly
[05:52] <Helpmeout2> yeah once i learn a bit more i won't mind it
[05:52] <valorie> you might try gtkpod
[05:52] <valorie> yes, I usually use the console
[05:52] <preecher> k
[05:52] <valorie> much faster, and fewer problems
[05:52] <Helpmeout2> so can i change the pc name in the system?
[05:53] <valorie> Helpmeout2: probably, but I don't know how
[05:55] <nodragon> help ! why my picasa can't run
[05:55] <nodragon> ?
[05:56] <Helpmeout2> rekonq is god aweful lol
[05:57] <yuvankumar_> hi,  sry for the newbie question...how do i update my alsa driver using kpackage kit?
[05:58] <valorie> update it
[05:58] <yuvankumar_> when i do cat /asound/version it says version 1.0.23, but when i look at kpackage kit, it says i have 1.0.24 installed
[05:58] <valorie> you run alsadriver in a console
[05:58] <valorie> oh
[05:59] <valorie> that's odd
[05:59] <yuvankumar_> hmm...i just type alsadriver in konsole? the command doesn't work
[05:59] <valorie> oops, sorry
[05:59] <valorie> I was thinking of alsamixer
[06:00] <yuvankumar_> yeah, having a hard time with nvidia graphic card
[06:00] <nodragon> i found the muon is better than kpackage
[06:00] <valorie> so in kpgk, you can reinstall
[06:00] <valorie> indeed, I use muon almost exclusively -- except for the console
[06:00] <yuvankumar_> nodragon: thx, will check out muon
[06:01] <yuvankumar_> lol, nvr heard of it before...
[06:01] <valorie> it's new
[06:01] <valorie> kpackagekit has been improving, however
[06:01] <valorie> so eventually they will have to fight it out, I guess
[06:02] <yuvankumar_> let me try reinstalling on kpackage first, if it still doesn't work, then i'll switch to muon
[06:02] <yuvankumar_> thx guys!
[06:02] <nodragon> my kpackage is always can`t run  so  i changed moun
[06:11] <Helpmeout2> ok in ubuntu it is gksu gedit /etc/hostname
[06:11] <Helpmeout2> to change it
[06:11] <Helpmeout2> so what what it be in kubuntu
[06:13] <valorie> it would be kdesudo
[06:13] <valorie> rather than gksu
[06:13] <valorie> you can use gedit, kate, vim, whatever you like
[06:13] <valorie> kate is my favorite
[06:16] <Helpmeout2> won't let me save changes
[06:17] <valorie> you started it with kdesudo?
[06:17] <Helpmeout2> i went to the file manually
[06:17] <Helpmeout2> ui style
[06:17] <Helpmeout2> what would console cmd be
[06:17] <valorie> you can go there from Kate
[06:18] <Helpmeout2> it is in root/etc/hostname
[06:18] <valorie> if you start it from kdesudo
[06:18] <Helpmeout2> how do i do that
[06:18] <valorie> kdesudo kate
[06:18] <valorie> open file
[06:18] <valorie> go and open it
[06:19] <valorie> and remember to Save As when you save it
[06:21] <Helpmeout2> fudge
[06:21] <Helpmeout2> lol
[06:22] <Helpmeout2> now when i try to kdesudo kate it says cannot connect to x server :0
[06:22] <Helpmeout2> bc i need to change the hosts file to
[06:22] <Helpmeout2> i changed hostname
[06:22] <Helpmeout2> durp dee durp
[06:23] <Helpmeout2> now what
[06:24] <elijah> ever since upgrading to 11.04 I can't shutdown or restart, i can standby though
[06:24] <elijah> Is there a way I can see what is going on?
[06:24] <elijah> Or maybe manually restart with the CLI
[06:25] <Helpmeout2> maaaannnn
[06:25] <Helpmeout2> this sucks
[06:26] <elijah> Hmm, I also can't update with kpackagekit, it keeps waiting for a lock of somesort, after I enter my pass
[06:26] <elijah> Almost like something is on a separate screen, yet Nvidia settings only show the one screen
[06:27] <Tm_T> elijah: are you familiar with CLI ?
[06:27] <elijah> Yet my left and top screen have infinite space it seems past the screen edge, so there is space there....
[06:27] <elijah> Tm_T: yes
[06:27] <noaXess> good morning
[06:28] <elijah> I think the issue is that there are dialogues on the left void of the screen
[06:28] <Tm_T> elijah: ok, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" to run normal update for installed packages
[06:28] <noaXess> can i foncigure kate to open a new instance if i open another file from dolphin?
[06:28] <Tm_T> elijah: "sudo shutdown -h now" to shutdown the system
[06:29] <Helpmeout2> guys pleeeease help
[06:29] <Helpmeout2> i changed my /etc/hostname file
[06:30] <Helpmeout2> and want to change it back to the original computer name
[06:30] <Helpmeout2> bc now it is broken
[06:30] <elijah> Tm_T: hmm, i ran that and it finished with "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "
[06:31] <elijah> Helpmeout2: Do you mean you changed the filename or just the contents of it?
[06:31] <elijah> brb, gonna do the shutdown command Tm_T
[06:31] <Tm_T> elijah: so do it (:
[06:32] <elijah> gosh, must be late, so obvious :_
[06:33] <Tm_T> Helpmeout2: do you have the full desktop running in front of me?
[06:34] <Tm_T> front of you obviously ...
[06:34]  * Tm_T needs his morning coffee
[06:34] <preecher> lol
[06:39] <Helpmeout2> sorry yeah i changed the actual hostname in the file
[06:39] <Helpmeout2> sorry i was reading
[06:39] <Helpmeout2> then i couldn't access the hosts file to change it there
[06:40] <Helpmeout2> i just knew it would break
[06:40] <valorie> what?
[06:40] <valorie> you changed it, but you couldn't change it?
[06:40] <valorie> that makes no sense
[06:40] <Helpmeout2> no
[06:40] <Helpmeout2> hostname and hosts are two seperate files
[06:41] <valorie> describe what you did
[06:41] <Helpmeout2> look in your etc folder
[06:41] <Helpmeout2> i changed the hostname in the /etc/hostname file with kdesudo kate
[06:41] <Helpmeout2> then navigated to etc/hostname
[06:41] <Helpmeout2> changed the name inside the file
[06:42] <Helpmeout2> went back to terminal
[06:42] <Helpmeout2> typed in kdesudo kate and no dice
[06:42] <valorie> was kate still running?
[06:42] <Helpmeout2> can't remember
[06:42] <valorie> you can't do two sudo commands at the same time
[06:42] <Helpmeout2> i just rebooted
[06:42] <Helpmeout2> ah that might be it
[06:44] <Helpmeout2> ok
[06:44] <Helpmeout2> i just edited the hosts file
[06:46] <Helpmeout2> wonder if that will fix it
[06:46] <Helpmeout2> is anything else tied to the hostname
[06:47] <Helpmeout2> ok weird
[06:47] <Helpmeout2> and now there are 2 files with recycle symbols on them named hostnam~ and hosts~ next to the txt ones
[06:48] <elijah> Tm_T: thanks for your advice!
[06:48] <Tm_T> np (:
[06:48] <elijah> all is working now, I did have to manually set resolution in nvidia settings to get my ghost screen to turn off
[06:49] <elijah> but other than that,  very helpful!
[06:49] <valorie> Helpmeout2: that's why I said to Save As
[06:49] <Helpmeout2> ok it wouldn't let me update lol
[06:49] <valorie> so you would have a backup file
[06:49] <Helpmeout2> would be faster to reinstall at this rate
[06:49] <Helpmeout2> lesson learned
[06:51] <Helpmeout2> so basically linux is like a heiarchy
[06:51] <Helpmeout2> stemming down from /
[06:51] <Helpmeout2> then /home
[06:51] <Helpmeout2> or /user
[06:52] <valorie> yes
[06:52] <valorie> very organized
[06:52] <Helpmeout2> i like it that way
[06:53] <Helpmeout2> easier to understan really
[06:53] <valorie> indeed
[06:53] <valorie> !filesystem
[06:54] <Helpmeout2> ok and cd .. takes you back a folder
[06:54] <Helpmeout2> how do you go forward a folder
[06:54] <Helpmeout2> ls?
[06:54] <valorie> ls lists the files and folders
[06:55] <valorie> you can cd as far up or down as you want
[06:55] <Helpmeout2> thnx for that link btw very helpful
[06:55] <valorie> cd=change dir
[06:56] <Helpmeout2> gotcha
[06:56] <valorie> ubottu is endlessly useful
[06:56] <valorie> but not intelligent
[06:56] <valorie> lol
[06:57] <Helpmeout2> linux is stubborn as i am
[06:59] <elijah> Is there a way to adjust trackpad sensitivity, I just googled this and am coming up dry
[06:59] <elijah> my trackpad is always getting touched while typing
[07:00] <valorie> synaptix or something like that, I think
[07:00] <valorie> !touchpad
[07:00] <valorie> heh
[07:01] <Helpmeout2> so basically you could burry the root kernal behind like a ton more folders to secure it better but would have to change all of the dir routes for everything
[07:02] <valorie> secure it better?
[07:02] <Helpmeout2> since prob every linux user knows that most of the time it is / then /home, /etc, etc..
[07:02] <valorie> the kernel is secure
[07:02] <Helpmeout2> yeah i know
[07:02] <valorie> also, *buntu is secure
[07:03] <valorie> and comes without a Root login by design
[07:03] <MadRobot> Hi all
[07:03] <Helpmeout2> yeah so basically impossible to access without passwork
[07:03] <Helpmeout2> password*
[07:03] <valorie> exactly
[07:03] <Helpmeout2> unless you tamper with it of cours
[07:03] <Helpmeout2> e
[07:03] <valorie> linux is designed to be secure
[07:04] <valorie> because it was originally only used in servers
[07:04] <valorie> there were no personal computers back in the old days
[07:05] <Helpmeout2> windows is getting more secure ive noticed
[07:05] <MadRobot> I've been recieving this notification for sometime now and it's getting annoying recently.  It says: "Could not download the proxy configuration script:
[07:05] <MadRobot> Could not connect to host my-proxy.co.uk: Socket operation timed out.".  What could be the problem?
[07:05] <Helpmeout2> they are trying to pull a linux kind of
[07:05] <Helpmeout2> with the locked system account and all
[07:10] <Helpmeout2> hey is Gimp near as good as photoshop?
[07:10] <Helpmeout2> can you do layering?
[07:10] <Tm_T> yes
[07:10] <Helpmeout2> awesome
[07:11] <Helpmeout2> my trial is up and my torrent days have been long gone
[07:11] <Helpmeout2> even though stealing from adobe wouldn't bother me much
[07:11] <Helpmeout2> j/k
[07:13] <Helpmeout2> what is the terminal shortcut?
[07:13] <Tm_T> what do you mean?
[07:13] <Helpmeout2> shift+f4
[07:18] <Helpmeout2> oh is there a built in ftp server in kubuntu?
[07:18] <Tm_T> Helpmeout2: well, not really, but you can easily install one
[07:18] <Tm_T> !ftp
[07:18] <Tm_T> !ftpd
[07:19] <Helpmeout2> any reccomendations?
[07:19] <Tm_T> not really, I don't use ftpd
[07:22] <Helpmeout2> is there a apple theme for kde?
[07:22] <Helpmeout2> lol
[07:23] <Helpmeout2> linux reminds me of mac
[07:23] <Helpmeout2> but free of course
[07:23] <valorie> look at kde-looks.org and search for Mac
[07:23] <valorie> I'm sure there are such themes
[07:24] <Helpmeout2> k i just don't want to jack my settings up
[07:24] <Helpmeout2> is there any way to set a restore point or backup?
[07:25] <valorie> millions of ways to backup, of course
[07:26] <valorie> best way to backup settings files is to copy them to another file called Old$setting or something similar
[07:26] <valorie> then you can always roll back to them
[07:27] <Helpmeout2> so just copy the root folder and and stick it in a new b4 making changes right?
[07:28] <Helpmeout2> and what is ssl good for?
[07:29] <valorie> you need to do some more reading
[07:29] <valorie> the root folder has some settings, for sure
[07:29] <valorie> but that is not where your app settings and such are
[07:29] <valorie> most of those are in your home folder
[07:29] <valorie> ~/.kde , most of them
[07:30] <valorie> ssl for IRC?
[07:30] <valorie> more secure way to connect
[07:31] <Helpmeout2> how do i connect through ssl?
[07:31] <Helpmeout2> yeah i do need to read more
[07:32] <Helpmeout2> are there free proxy servers now days
[07:32] <valorie> !ssl
[07:32] <valorie> silly ubbotu
[07:32] <valorie> just google on secure connection IRC
[07:33] <valorie> also look at your MOTD here
[07:33] <valorie> it will give you more specific information about freenode
[08:23] <c2tarun> the performance of my kubuntu degrades if I switch off the power and try to run my laptop on battery power. Why so? How to fix it?
[08:24] <MadRobot> Hi all
[08:24] <MadRobot> I've been recieving this notification for sometime now and it's getting annoying recently. It says: "Could not download the proxy configuration script:
[08:24] <MadRobot> Could not connect to host my-proxy.co.uk: Socket operation timed out.". What could be the problem?
[08:25] <valorie> c2tarun: you can make it run full-power if you want
[08:25] <valorie> in systemsettings
[08:25] <valorie> battery won't last as long, of course
[08:26] <c2tarun> valorie: where in systemsettings?
[08:26] <valorie> MadRobot: did you google that error message?
[08:26] <valorie> hardware > power management
[08:27] <MadRobot> valorie: Yeah, but I did't find anything relevant.
[08:28] <c2tarun> valorie: there is no hardware option, I tried to fix this issue by changing profiles but no luck. System is still performing very slow.
[08:28] <c2tarun> *profile=power profiles
[08:28] <valorie> weird
[08:28] <valorie> are you running 11.04?
[08:29] <c2tarun> valorie: yup
[08:29] <valorie> MadRobot: poke around in /etc/NetworkManager/
[08:30] <valorie> maybe you'll find something relevant
[08:31] <c2tarun> valorie: any suggestions?
[08:32] <valorie> ha, have you tried the battery widget?
[08:32] <Clown_Knife> Hi All
[08:33] <c2tarun> valorie: the one in tray icon? I tried it, its taking  me to power management only
[08:34] <valorie> and none of that works?
[08:34] <valorie> weird
[08:34] <MadRobot> valorie: what is it that I should be looking for in etc/NetworkManager/?
[08:35] <c2tarun> valorie: nope, power profiles are just helping me changing brightness,  but nothing for slow performance.
[08:37] <valorie> MadRobot: my-proxy.co.uk
[08:37] <valorie> for some reason you are trying to connect there
[08:37] <MadRobot> valorie: Nope, couldnt find that.
[08:37] <valorie> and it isn't working out
[08:38] <MadRobot> valorie: I don't even remember trying to do such a thing.
[08:38] <valorie> so do you have a firewall with such a setting? a modem?
[08:41] <MadRobot> umm.. no. None that I know of at least.
[08:45] <valorie> either #ubuntu-network or #networking might be able to help
[08:46] <MadRobot> valorie: Thanks
[08:47] <c2tarun_> valorie: any idea where should I ask about power management problem?
[08:48] <valorie> c2tarun: hmmm
[08:48] <valorie> maybe #ubuntu-kernel?
[08:48] <valorie> that's all I can think of
[08:48] <valorie> without the ? of course
[08:49] <valorie> #ubuntu-kernel
[09:01] <anuvrat> hi
[09:02] <anuvrat> I was trying to use the ghost (aurorae) theme
[09:02] <anuvrat> although the ghost desktop theme works perfectly fine
[09:02] <anuvrat> ghost (aurorae) window decoration breaks
[09:03] <anuvrat> Window borders flicker and loose their decoration too
[09:03] <anuvrat> can somebody help me filx this?
[09:03] <anuvrat> Aurorare is compatible right?
[09:16] <NinjaWulfe> Hello, I have a question, Im having a little bit of issues Dynamic MMap ran out of room. Please increase the size of APT::Cache-Limit. Current value: 25165824. But when i try to edit /etc/apt/apt.conf acess id denied, read only, file system...
[09:16] <NinjaWulfe> is*
[09:16] <Linkmaster> Use it as sudo/kdesudo
[09:17] <Linkmaster> if that doesn't work, add writable to its permissions
[09:18] <NinjaWulfe> i tryed to add writable, it says root, everything else is dimmed out
[09:19] <Linkmaster> Hmm...
[09:20] <Linkmaster> 'sudo chmod +x apt.conf'?
[09:21] <NinjaWulfe> lol!! chmod: cannot access `apt.conf\nsudo chmod +x apt.conf': No such file or directory this is rediculous, ive been trying different ways to fix it for like 6 hrs
[09:23] <Linkmaster> Huh....if it says its not there, I don't know how to help D: I'm sorry man
[09:24] <NinjaWulfe> its alright, im a female btw. lol ;)neway imma try n see what i can do
[09:24] <Linkmaster> *I'm sorry chickski xD
[09:25] <Linkmaster> and good luck
[09:26] <NinjaWulfe> thank you :) debating on taking courses 4 kubuntu, todays the first time used for me, used to ubuntu 10.04, or puppy.. just kinda ended up gettin it
[09:28] <jussi> NinjaWulfe: nice to have you along. :) DO feel free to join us in #kubuntu-offtopic for some general nonsense chat :)
[09:28] <Linkmaster> Whoa, did you straight install 11.04?
[09:28] <Linkmaster> nonsense is about right...xD
[09:29] <Linkmaster> But does kubuntu even have that...let me check my own file path, hold on
[09:30] <Linkmaster> check the 'apt.conf.d' folder. that might be what your looking for NinjaWulfe
[09:31] <gr> !java
[09:33] <TornadoXubuntu> Hello! Please I am facing a problem. I am not able to update or open the synaptic manager. The error is as follows
[09:33] <TornadoXubuntu> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[09:33] <TornadoXubuntu> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-i386_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[09:33] <jussi> TornadoXubuntu: ouch, Ive not seen that before
[09:34] <Linkmaster> niether have I..I have some errors because I'm too lazy to comment out some sources, but not like that
[09:34] <jussi> TornadoXubuntu: try in konsole: sudo apt-get update
[09:34] <jussi> Id be interested to see the output in  a pastebin
[09:35] <Linkmaster> Yeah, that does sound like something...pleasant
[09:37] <TornadoXubuntu> here is the output: http://pastebin.com/2tdev2UW
[09:37] <TornadoXubuntu> after issuing apt-get update
[09:38] <jussi> TornadoXubuntu: cripes, you have a load of strange repos there...
[09:38] <Linkmaster> thats the same as mine. Go through your souces.list, and either delete or comment out the ones that its complaining about. Then you should be able to get an empty response
[09:38] <jussi> TornadoXubuntu: its likely that one of those has hosed your system - not much we can help you with.
[09:39] <TornadoXubuntu> i will try to change that... Thanks anyway
[09:46] <TornadoXubuntu> i removed almost all of them, and still i am receiving the message of: The package system could not be initialized, your configuration may be broken
[09:47] <andeeeuk> Has anyone got adobe Illustrator working in wine?
[09:47] <Linkmaster> Hm...when did this happen?
[09:48] <Linkmaster> andeeeuk: if you dont mind me asking...why would you use it on Linux?
[09:48] <TornadoXubuntu> after you told me to comment many of them from software sources
[09:48] <andeeeuk> Why would i want to use Winblows :p
[09:48] <Linkmaster> andeeeuk: why not use GIMP or something?
[09:49] <Linkmaster> and TornadoXubuntu it really does sound like your system is hosed...
[09:49] <andeeeuk> The question is has anyone got it working. I know about the other applications and used them. It would just be great to have the pro alternatives working
[09:49] <TornadoXubuntu> do you think there is anything i can do at the moment?
[09:50] <TornadoXubuntu> andeeuk, most adobe programs malfunction with wine...
[09:50] <TornadoXubuntu> adobe has special versions for linux
[09:50] <TornadoXubuntu> not for everything though
[09:51] <andeeeuk> adobe has special versions for linx?!?
[09:51] <andeeeuk> since when?
[09:51] <Linkmaster> TornadoXubuntu: I don't think so man :/ someone with more skill might be able to help, though at the same time they might say just reinstall
[09:52] <TornadoXubuntu> i see... thanks a lot linkmaster
[09:52] <andeeeuk> I have Photoshop CS4 working well
[09:52] <Linkmaster> Not much help I'm afraid D:
[09:52] <andeeeuk> just not illustrator
[09:53] <TornadoXubuntu> i told you, not everything works
[09:53] <TornadoXubuntu> they have many problems
[09:53] <TornadoXubuntu> install windows or check if adobe has issued any packages for linux
[09:53] <TornadoXubuntu> though it won't be for free, if they issued anything
[09:55] <andeeeuk> Wow...lol. I know not everything work. That is whey oi am asking anyone if they have got it working well. P.s. there are not linux versions of these apps and wont be for sometime
[09:56]  * Linkmaster thinks its because corporations hate the wonderfulness of Linux
[09:57] <andeeeuk> Lol, so very true Linkmaster shame on them :P
[09:57] <Linkmaster> :P
[10:04] <andeeeuk> has anyone the irc for ubuntu instead of kbuntu?
[10:05] <Linkmaster> mines 'irc.ubuntu.net' xD
[10:05] <andeeeuk> lol
[10:05] <andeeeuk> thanks
[10:07] <gr> hi. i have installed on my notebook machine (celeron 1,5 ghz+750mb ram) kubuntu 10.04 after some years in XP (preloaded). KDE running well and fast. The only problem is that Firefox is very slow downloadinfd certain pages (although bandwith is very large) so i went to Chrome. GC is faster but still cannot load quickly certain pages (like blogsot.com or google related) although the download speed is almost 1,5mb/s. i have a contact wih my isp to make faster the
[10:07] <gr> line and they gave me also dns entries. The problem is still the same. Does any one have any idea if the problem is because of the compability of hardware and kubuntu or anything else?
[10:08] <Linkmaster> not at all. If your having issues with only certain pages, then its the browser/servers fault
[10:13] <gr> @linkmaster. thank you for your opinion. actually the most of the pages which they dont have advertisments and google's ads they load extremely fast so maybe what you say is right. is there any way to be fixed this fault which all browsers make (firefox/opera/chrome). chrome is lightly better.
[10:15] <valorie> gr: try adblock or flashblock
[10:15] <valorie> it's a bit annoying, but it turns off the ads
[10:15] <valorie> noscript is useful also
[10:15] <valorie> annoying but useful
[10:17] <gr> @valorie. it's a good idea and i tried already to load "heany" pages via free proxies and is much better but annying too because they have adverts and they open some new windows. adblock and flash block are available for chrome too and for linux distros?
[10:19] <valorie> not sure about chrome
[10:19] <valorie> it was a bit lacking last I checked
[10:19] <valorie> I use FF and rekonq
[10:21] <gr> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/gighmmpiobklfepjocnamgkkbiglidom here it says that is supported.
[10:21] <Briareos1> I encrypted my partitions with LUKS in a prior kubuntu version - today I upgraded to natty and it cannot be booted. However, booting the old kernel works.
[10:22] <Briareos1> any hint on how I can use the new install with the new kernel?
[10:22] <Peace-> Briareos1: eh?
[10:22] <Briareos1> old kernel = 2.6.35-28-generic; new kernel = 2.6.38-8-generic
[10:23] <Briareos1> I already re-created the ram-disk
[10:23] <Briareos1> Peace-: ?
[10:31] <murali> plesae help. hw to repair kubuntu. its keep freezina a lot
[10:31] <Peace-> murali: ehhehe freeze eh
[10:31] <murali> yeah
[10:31] <Peace-> well you need to understand why does it freeze
[10:31] <Peace-> could be the video card
[10:32] <Peace-> or other sutff
[10:32] <murali> how can i do tht. i dnt have a video card
[10:32] <murali> it workd fine till yesterday
[10:32] <Peace-> you need to undestand
[10:32] <Peace-> test
[10:33] <murali> test?
[10:33] <Peace-> if before it worked well ==> some upgrade ?
[10:33] <Peace-> has messed the system?
[10:33] <Peace-> i have no time right now
[10:33] <murali> i am not sure. done updates couple of times
[10:34] <murali> is there a repair option in kubuntu?
[10:36] <Peace-> murali: freeze can depend from a lots of stuff
[10:36] <Peace-> murali: kernel , driver
[10:37] <murali> wat shud i do? how to isolate the prob?
[10:37] <Peace-> kmenu ==> search for log
[10:38] <Peace-> murali: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/27/plasma-desktopPV1745.jpg
[10:39] <murali> opened it. now?
[10:39] <murali> file:///home/murali/Desktop/Screenshot.png
[10:40] <murali> 27/05/2011 3:10:16 pm	HOME	pulseaudio[1902]	core-util.c: Failed to stat runtime directory /home/murali/.pulse/2ebb9c92b71c3edb0c085ff44da5ab3f-runtime: Invalid argument
[10:40] <murali> 27/05/2011 3:10:16 pm	HOME	pulseaudio[1902]	lock-autospawn.c: Cannot access autospawn lock.
[10:40] <murali> 27/05/2011 3:10:16 pm	HOME	pulseaudio[1902]	main.c: Failed to acquire autospawn lock
[10:40] <murali> the above lines keep repeating mostly
[10:40] <FloodBotK1> murali: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:41] <murali> ok sorry
[10:42] <murali> Peace, wat shud i do next?
[10:45] <murali> Please help. kubuntu keeps freezing
[10:48] <murali> Please help. can i repair kubuntu 10.04
[10:52] <DareDevil_> good mornig cani speak italian?
[10:53] <murali> Please help. how can i repair kubuntu 10.04?
[10:57] <szal> !it | DareDevil_
[11:22] <appletree> Hi2all
[11:54] <chilmaaster> hey guys
[11:56] <natman2> chilmaaster: hi
[11:57] <chilmaaster> i'm having some problems with my wifi connection on Kubuntu 10.04. Somehow it doesn't connect automatically anymore although the "connect automaticly" checkbox is selected. common problem?
[11:57] <natman2> chilmaaster: whats the wireless manager, is it the default one?
[11:58] <chilmaaster> it's the default kubuntu networkManager
[11:58] <natman2> chilmaaster: did it ever connect for you?
[11:58] <natman2> NaBoo:
[11:58] <natman2> sorry!
[11:58] <NaBoo> hm?
[11:59] <natman2> hit key by mistake sorry
[11:59] <chilmaaster> yes it did
[11:59] <natman2> chilmaaster: is your wireless turned on? desktop or laptop?
[12:00] <chilmaaster> it is a laptop
[12:00] <natman2> chilmaaster: is the wireless light on?
[12:01] <chilmaaster> yes. i mean wifi connection works fine it's just it does not connect automaticly
[12:01] <natman2> chilmaaster: have you the kwallet enabled?
[12:01] <chilmaaster> yes i do
[12:02] <natman2> chilmaaster: and if you chosse to connect will it work?
[12:02] <chilmaaster> manually it works fine
[12:03] <natman2> chilmaaster: ok this is just my own personal experience i cant promise anything but try:
[12:04] <natman2> chilmaaster: Go into sys settings and disable Kwallet, then reboot and ask to connect, if will ask for the password ( if there is one on the wireless ) give it and tick "remember" ( something like that not sure of the name )
[12:05] <natman2> chilmaaster: check your connected, log out and in / reboot and check that you connect automatically
[12:05] <natman2> chilmaaster: option 2
[12:05] <natman2> chilmaaster: try clicking on knetworkmanager and manage connections
[12:06] <natman2> chilmaaster: then delete your current connection and basically start from scratch all over again
[12:06] <natman2> chilmaaster: after that im stumped perhaps a new network manger?
[12:06] <chilmaaster> thank you natman2
[12:07] <chilmaaster> i'll start with option 2 ;)
[12:07] <natman2> chilmaaster: lets hope it works! natman2
[12:08] <chilmaaster> will give feedback in a few minutes
[12:17] <chilmaaster> natman2 thank u, it worked
[12:17] <natman2> chilmaaster: Cool!
[12:17] <natman2> chilmaaster: not a pretty solution but it worked :)
[12:18] <chilmaaster> though i don't know how it worked before
[12:20] <chilmaaster> cos on my wifi network setting it said no securitiy (no pw required). just changed it to WPA2/personal and entered the key.
[12:20] <chilmaaster> now it works
[12:20] <chilmaaster> weird
[12:23] <chilmaaster> anyway, does someone have experience with the hibernating mode an Kubuntu? it just doesn't work at all on my laptop
[12:24] <chilmaaster> i send the laptop into hibernate.   What is the equivalent in kde?
[12:39] <natman2> JuJuBee: try dolphin - network
[12:40] <JuJuBee> natman2: where is that in dolphin?
[12:40] <natman2> JuJuBee: its just the file manger, alt+F2 type Dolphin
[12:41] <JuJuBee> I have dolphin open, where is network?
[12:41] <natman2> JuJuBee: Left hand menu under Home
[12:42] <JuJuBee> Not here... have Root, Trash then disc's and custom folders....
[12:43] <natman2> JuJuBee: inside Dolphin do you have the bar at the top for typing in locations
[12:43] <JuJuBee> sure
[12:43] <natman2> JuJuBee: Type "remote:/"
[12:44] <JuJuBee> Ah  so if  I need to use openvpn to connect to a drive at work, do I run openvpn then go here?
[12:44] <natman2> JuJuBee: sorry not really sure, all i ever use that for is ssh'ing
[12:45] <JuJuBee> We can no longer ssh to our home dir's on the work servers.  Have to map a network drive now with openvpn
[12:45] <JuJuBee> Not sure how to do that in kde...
[12:47] <natman2> ok bye
[12:47] <cousin_mario> JuJuBee: I'd try with network-manager-openvpn-kde.
[12:48] <JuJuBee> cousin_mario: thanks, I will give that a go
[12:50] <JuJuBee> cousin_mario: you ever use that?
[12:52] <cousin_mario> JuJuBee: No, I've just switched to kde.
[12:52] <cousin_mario> JuJuBee: I use the openvpn client in my router for such purposes.
[12:53] <cousin_mario> JuJuBee: by they way, you'll have to make sure that not all of your traffic is routed through your employer's network.
[12:53] <JuJuBee> cousin_mario: my job provides me with a config file I use when starting openvpn, how do I enter that info in the config file into the connection properties...
[12:53] <dimroum> Hello. Kubuntu does not save multimonitor configuaration. Any advice?
[12:53] <JuJuBee> cousin_mario: yea, I get that, but need to connect first..
[12:53] <JuJuBee> dimroum: what are you talking about, I use multiple monitors...
[12:54] <cousin_mario> JuJuBee: I'm not sure, I've never used that graphical client.
[12:54] <JuJuBee> K
[12:54] <JuJuBee> thanks anyway
[12:54] <cousin_mario> JuJuBee: You'll probably have to copy it into /etc/openvpn
[12:54] <dimroum> I have install two monitos. I have to setup the dual monitor every time i boot on kubuntu
[12:55] <dimroum> JuJuBee: Could you please explain more?
[12:55] <JuJuBee> dimroum: is the monitor connected before boot
[12:55] <dimroum> JuJubee: yes
[12:56] <JuJuBee> dimroum: have you looked at System Settings->Display and Montior?
[12:56] <dimroum> JuJubee:Both monitors are installed , up, and runnig before boot
[12:57] <dimroum> JuJubee: from system settings  i choose display and monitor
[12:57] <JuJuBee> dimroum: what video card are you using?
[12:58] <dimroum> JuJubee: the one installed on motherboard
[12:58] <JuJuBee> dimroum: really ?
[12:59] <dimroum> JuJubee: this configuration works properly on windows
[12:59] <JuJuBee> dimroum:  is it nVidia or ATI
[12:59] <JuJuBee> dimroum: so, this is not windoze
[13:00] <dimroum> JuJubee: when settings are ajjusted, all works ok. but only while this session until shutdown
[13:00] <dimroum> JuJubee:ati
[13:00] <JuJuBee> dimroum: did you install the ati drivers and is there a control panel or something for the video settings for the ATI card?
[13:00] <dimroum> JuJubee: i am using kubuntu 11.04
[13:01] <dimroum> JuJubee: i am not sure? How can I check this?
[13:01] <JuJuBee> dimroum:  I am using nVidia, so I cant help much with ATI.
[13:01] <dimroum> JuJubee:Now I am working on both monitors and works ok
[13:01] <JuJuBee> I understand
[13:02] <JuJuBee> What I had to do was use the nvidia control panel to create a working xorg.conf file and save it in /etc/X11/ so when I boot, the config is applied.
[13:02] <dimroum> JuJubee: do you mean that you rae using two monitors and your Linux installation remebers settinmgs?
[13:03] <JuJuBee> yes
[13:04] <cousin_mario> bbl
[13:04] <dimroum> JuJubee:Thie xorg.conf file must be created within control panel?
[13:05] <JuJuBee> dimroum: my xorg.conf file is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/613713/  have a look at yours and see if you can use mine as a template but don't simply copy/paste it as the settings will be different and you can do physical damage if improperly configured..
[13:05] <dimroum> JuJubee:Thanks
[13:05] <JuJuBee> dimroum: that is how I did it.  You can look to see what you already have configured and use mine to help create a dual display
[13:06] <dimroum> JuJubee:Thank you a lot. I agoing to follow your suggestion right now
[13:07] <JuJuBee> be careful.   the sync rates will likely be different
[13:07] <dimroum> JuJubee: I am reading your file now
[13:07] <JuJuBee> Paste your xorg.conf file and maybe I can help you create one...
[13:08] <dimroum> JuJubee: Thanks again. I am going to work out this. bye
[13:08] <JuJuBee> bye
[13:13] <vbgunz> I just upgraded from a gtx 460 to a radeon 5850. If I selected shared memory in effects the whole screen becomes garbled. only texture from pixmap works. anyhow, the card should be better in a sense but it doesn't feel like it. anybody have an idea what I can do to improve performance?
[13:15] <Graf_Westerholt> vbgunz, do you have the ATI drivers?
[13:15] <vbgunz> Graf_Westerholt: I believe I do. I went to additional drivers and activated catalyst
[13:16] <Graf_Westerholt> Did you restart the x server?
[13:16] <vbgunz> I rebooted
[13:16] <Graf_Westerholt> vbgunz normaly it should work now.
[13:17] <vbgunz> I believe my best performance came from shared memory. but if I activate shared memory for this card, the entire screen becomes corrupt
[13:17] <Graf_Westerholt> vbgunz, why shared memory?
[13:17] <vbgunz> I believe shared memory is what gave me the best performance with my gtx 460. e.g., almost everything was super smooth.
[13:18] <Graf_Westerholt> vbgunz shared memory is crap.
[13:18] <Graf_Westerholt> It is very slow.
[13:18] <vbgunz> it's really not an option though atm. which is ok. right now I am doing texture from pixmap which isn't bad but I feel like some sort of performance is lacking here
[13:18] <Graf_Westerholt> Disable shared memory vbgunz
[13:19] <vbgunz> I did. I had no choice. for me, shared memory really worked better with the former card
[13:20] <Graf_Westerholt> That is strange. Shared memory is for graphic cards without graphic memory. Your card has its own faster memory.
[13:23] <vbgunz> not sure whats up. my graphics are a bit choppy. I am looking for 2 things equivalent to nvidia. nvidia had a way to write a xorg.conf and nvidia had a powermizer setting which would make the power consumption adaptable or tuned for performance. I am not finding either in the control center
[13:24] <vbgunz> hmm, seems like more options might be available to me in the cli app aticonfig
[13:27] <vbgunz> I did it. I think I wrote the default xorg.conf
[13:28] <vbgunz> brb
[13:28] <vbgunz> gonna restart x
[13:47] <dan____> !firefox
[13:48] <dan_l> Halp!  What version of firefox installs with the installer in Kubuntu 11.04?
[13:48] <Graf_Westerholt> 4.0.1
[13:48] <dan_l> Graf_westerholt:  thanks.
[13:48] <dan_l> I was worried it was still late 3
[13:49] <dan_l> I converted another user
[13:49] <dan_l> If I do like 3 more, shuttleworth sends me a set of steak knives or a wrist watch
[13:50] <jussi> !info firefox
[13:50] <jussi> :)
[13:50] <Graf_Westerholt> jussi :)
[14:22] <vbgunz> anybody know how to list my powerstates? how to change them? with an ati card? I do have aticonfig *but* don't have --list-states or --set-state
[15:27] <sourav7mishra> Hi I am trying to build kdevelop and to resolve the dependency I should install package 'Qt-devel >= 4.5.2' and 'Boost MultiIndex library >= 1.35', can anyone please tell me the correct package name in kubuntu repository
[15:32] <peace2_> sourav7mishra: sudo apt-get build-dep kdevelop
[15:37] <BluesKaj> ImportError: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32...wonder if they're hiding a 32 bit version hoping I have ia32-libs installed
[15:44] <soee> i see in repos qt4gui for wine but it uses wine 1.0 right? and newest version of wine is 1.3?
[16:05] <natman2> anyone know about searching within Kubuntu?
[16:29] <ubuntufreak> Hi guys, i am having problem with restoring my GRUB in Kubuntu 11.04 installation and this the result of the boot-info-script http://paste.kde.org/75397/  any help ?
[16:34] <BluesKaj> ubuntufreak, looks like you have the old grub installed , you should be using grub2 with 11.04
[16:35] <BluesKaj> !grub legacy
[16:35] <BluesKaj> !info grub legacy
[16:35] <genii-around> ubuntufreak: Probably no ext4 support loaded pre-boot
[16:35] <Pici> !grub
[16:35] <Pici> !grub1
[16:36] <BluesKaj> hmm, didn't mean to create a flood :)
[16:38] <BluesKaj> yeah , he's asking wherever he can get an answer
[16:38] <ubuntufreak> BluesKaj: how do i install grub2 using the live cd ?
[16:39] <ubuntufreak> genii-around: how do i restore the grub2 using the kubuntu live cd ?
[16:39] <BluesKaj> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:40] <ubuntufreak> BluesKaj: thanks will check it !
[16:40] <BluesKaj> ubuntufreak, just open a terminal and follow this if the other one isn't helpful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[16:41] <ubuntufreak> BluesKaj: thanks for the link will check it now
[16:44] <ubuntufreak> BluesKaj: when i try the install command i get this error http://paste.kde.org/75403/
[16:48] <BluesKaj> ubuntufreak, remove grub (which will be the old one) then install grub2
[16:50] <ubuntufreak> BluesKaj: i dont have any write permission on the mounted drive
[16:55] <BluesKaj> ubuntufreak, then you'll have to install ubuntu again . thisn time when it asks for the boatloader say yes to grub
[16:56] <ubuntufreak> BluesKaj: the actual problem was when i removed the windoz and resized my kubuntu partition to occupy the space before, the grub2 was deleted i guess
[16:57] <BluesKaj> ubuntufreak, do you have everything installed on / , or do you have a /home partition as well ?
[16:57] <ubuntufreak> BluesKaj: everything is installed in the / partition only
[16:58] <BluesKaj> ubuntufreak, this might work for you
[16:58] <BluesKaj> !grub
[16:59] <BluesKaj> follow the tutorial about reinstalling grub after installing windows , it's essentially the same thing .
[17:44] <nikitis> How do I capture printscreen?  alt+printscreen doesn't work.
[17:46] <DarthFrog> nikitis: You want a screenshot?  kscreenshot is your tool..
[17:46] <jussi> nikitis: printscreen by itself?
[17:47] <DarthFrog> Err, make that ksnapshot, not kscreenshot. :-)
[18:06] <nodragon> hello!!
[18:06] <seesall> hey
[18:06] <nodragon> I`m new
[18:06] <Mc-Nate> Welcome
[18:06] <nodragon> thx
[18:07] <Mc-Nate> You know programming languages?
[18:07] <nodragon> yes
[18:07] <seesall> cool
[18:07] <nodragon> i little
[18:07] <Mc-Nate> What programming languages?
[18:07] <nodragon> not much
[18:07] <Mc-Nate> The C, the python?
[18:07] <nodragon> c
[18:07] <Mc-Nate> Ok
[18:08] <Mc-Nate> Me too
[18:08] <Mc-Nate> But now i learn the python
[18:08] <nodragon> is it  hard?
[18:08] <Mc-Nate> No
[18:08] <nodragon> to learn?
[18:08] <seesall> not really
[18:09] <nodragon> oh  good!
[18:09] <Mc-Nate> Lol
[18:09] <nodragon> i can have a try
[18:09] <Mc-Nate> Yes
[18:09] <Mc-Nate> I know some documentation sites
[18:09] <nodragon> but i don`t know how to learn
[18:09] <Mc-Nate> But there are french
[18:10] <Mc-Nate> And i'm french
[18:10] <Mc-Nate> lol
[18:10] <nodragon> you are french?
[18:10] <Mc-Nate> Yes
[18:11] <nodragon> i`m a chinese
[18:11] <Mc-Nate> Really?
[18:11] <nodragon> yes  !
[18:11] <Mc-Nate> I want to learn this language
[18:11] <peace2__> !chat | Mc-Nate
[18:11] <BluesKaj> !ot
[18:11] <peace2__> BluesKaj: xD wrong command
[18:12] <peace2__> ops
[18:12] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Beat me to it :)
[18:12] <Mc-Nate> Sorry
[18:12] <nodragon> it`s easy
[18:13] <nodragon> how old are you ?
[18:13] <DarkriftX> so during a 10.10 to 11.04 upgrade, i got an error during the installs stating "the upgrade has aborted, your system could be in an unsable state, a recovery will now run (dpkg --configure -a). please report blah blah. then i got about 20 lines of: /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2), E:Sub-process
[18:13] <peace2__> !ot | nodragon
[18:13] <DarkriftX> not sure what i should do at this point
[18:14] <peace2__> DarkriftX: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:14] <nodragon> ok
[18:14] <DarkriftX> dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 14540 package 'kde-plasmoid-cwp':
[18:14] <DarkriftX>  junk after word in `priority' field
[18:15] <DarkriftX> should i attempt to edit the file to remove any said junk?
[18:15] <vbgunz> anybody have an ati card and using the ati binaries kubuntu provides? how do you set the cards powerstate? supposedly I should be able to aticonfig --list-powerstates and --set-powerstate *but* those options are unknown. have they been replaced? is powerplay only available for later drivers?
[18:15] <peace2__> DarkriftX: sudo apt-get -f install
[18:15] <peace2__> DarkriftX: sudo apt-get remove kde-plasmoid-cwp ; sudo apt-get -f install
[18:16] <DarkriftX> so, the 2nd one?
[18:16] <peace2__> yes
[18:17] <genii-around> DarkriftX: I would try first instead: sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status-corrupt  && sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status        and then retry the sudo apt-get -f install
[18:18] <DarkriftX> well shit
[18:18] <peace2__> LOL
[18:18] <DarkriftX> ok, so same error
[18:19] <peace2__> even with the genii-around command ?
[18:19] <DarkriftX> no, doing that one now
[18:20] <DarkriftX> same error, different line#
[18:24] <genii-around> DarkriftX: OK, so the old status file had also the same problem.
[18:26] <DarkriftX> is there a quick easy way to remove a line from a file?
[18:29] <DarkriftX> anyone?
[18:33] <DarkriftX> ok, so the line before, the line with the error and the line after are:
[18:33] <DarkriftX> Status: install ok installed
[18:33] <DarkriftX> Priority: low
[18:33] <DarkriftX> Section: kde
[18:33] <FloodBotK1> DarkriftX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:33] <DarkriftX> and donot appear to have "junk" characters
[18:37] <DarkriftX> whew, edited a few files as root and seem to have fixed the issue
[18:37] <DarkriftX> its now doing stuff :P
[18:39] <genii-around> DarkriftX: The system also archives these files in the same way as logs, in /var/backups with names as: dpkg.status.0 dpkg.status.1.gz and so forth. You can keep going back, unzip them, rename to status and put in /var/lib/dpkg directory until you hit one that is not corrupt
[18:39] <genii-around> Apologies on lag, work got busy
[18:39] <DarkriftX> i manually removed the 10-20 lines for that package in the "current" and the "available" file in the dpkg folders
[18:39] <DarkriftX> then re-ran the apt-get -f
[18:39] <DarkriftX> its replacing a lot of packages right now
[18:40] <DarkriftX> so will apt-get -f finish the dist upgrade?
[18:40] <DarkriftX> or are there other things ill need to do?
[18:40] <vbgunz> does anybody know why I don't have --list-powerstates or --lsp in the provided ati catalyst binary driver? aticonfig has no idea what I am talking about :/
[18:45] <DarkriftX> genii-around: will the "apt-get -f" finish the dist upgrade, or will there be other steps i need to take to finalize it?
[18:47] <genii-around> DarkriftX: You might want to re-run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade        one more time after to see if any held back packages or other issues
[18:47] <genii-around> vbgunz: Maybe they might know in #ati
[18:47] <DarkriftX> wow, bunch of crap
[18:47] <vbgunz> genii-around: thanks, gotta keep restarting x
[18:48] <vbgunz> brb
[18:48] <DarkriftX> 890 upgraded, 93 newly installed, 11 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[18:48] <DarkriftX> Need to get 633 kB/1,070 MB of archives.
[18:48] <Linkmaster> :o?
[18:48] <MadRobot> Hi all.
[18:49] <MadRobot> How do I change the time format from 24hr to 12hr?
[18:49] <DarkriftX> damn, it was done with the downloading, wonder why it needs to get that much more
[18:49] <Linkmaster> You managed to get yours in 24 hour??
[18:50] <MadRobot> ??
[18:51] <Linkmaster> I've been trying to get mine to display 24 hour format..though I'll tinker with it. I'm assuming your using the digital clock widget?
[18:53] <Linkmaster> MadRobot: I honestly don't know..Huh. Thats a good question to find out
[18:53] <MadRobot> Linkmaster: yup. I'm not quite sure what I did that made it display time in 24hr format. But whatever it is, I'd  really like to reverse it.
[18:54] <MadRobot> Linkmaster: the weird thing is that the only related thing I remember doing before I got this problem is installing a wallpaper clock.. :S
[18:55] <Linkmaster> try tinkering with the wallpaper clock settings
[18:55] <yofel> I think that's in the locale settings
[18:56] <yofel> systemsettings->locale->country/region & locale -> date&time
[19:00] <MadRobot> yofel: okay. what then?
[19:00] <Linkmaster> MadRobot: yeah, what yofel said is right, I just tested it myself
[19:00] <akis> hi. which is the command to remove directories and its contents?
[19:00] <DarkriftX> rm -rf /path/to/folder
[19:01] <DarkriftX> use carefully
[19:01] <Linkmaster> very carefully
[19:01] <akis> why? so many warning?
[19:01] <DarkriftX> and if someone tells you to do it as root, and you dont know what you are doing, dont do it
[19:01] <DarkriftX> you can kill your system if you delete the wrong folder
[19:01] <Linkmaster> never do it as root, and NEVER leave it at '/' or '/*'
[19:01] <Pici> akis: Because people remove paths that they shouldnt and there is no undelete.
[19:02] <DarkriftX> if you are in any way unsure what you are deleting, dont do it
[19:02] <Linkmaster> This isn't Windows where it still hangs around for a bit, and as said here ^ leave it unless someone tells you exactly what it is your doing, and even then be wary
[19:02] <akis> sure. i know. i have in my temporary dir under /home/documents a dir that i cannot send it to trash.
[19:02] <DarkriftX> i talk to 5+ "linux admins" a day who deleted the wrong folder and want to know if we backed up their server. after we laugh a little we inform them backup is the admins responsibility
[19:02] <yofel> MadRobot: there put 'PH:MM AMPM' as time format I think
[19:03] <MadRobot> akis: Any misuse of that particular command can irreversibly destroy your  linux system.
[19:03] <DarkriftX> akis: id check permissions first
[19:03] <DarkriftX> if you are unable to delete it, chmod it then try again using whatever you were using
[19:04] <DarkriftX> chmod -R 0777 /home/yourname/documents/folder
[19:04] <DarkriftX> 777 since you are just going to delete it anyways
[19:04] <Pici> 777?!
[19:04] <Linkmaster> ..?
[19:04] <Pici> oh, well thats still silly.
[19:04] <Alumin> hat "powers" the little popup thing from K3b and Amarok (and maybe other stuff) that says "hey, I want to install some other packages for more functionality!"
[19:04] <akis> actually permissions are gray. what can i do for that?
[19:04] <DarkriftX> akis: what do owner and group show?
[19:04] <DarkriftX> you prob dont own the files
[19:05] <DarkriftX> "grey"'s meaning depends on where you are looking at it
[19:05] <Linkmaster> yofel: I tried to go to that to change my clock to 24 hour format, and its simply staring at me
[19:05] <MadRobot> Linkmaster: Nothing happened.. : \
[19:05] <Linkmaster> You too?
[19:05] <akis> owner can view and modify/ group can view only
[19:05] <DarkriftX> Pici: yes, im sure there is a better permission to use, but what does it matter when its being deleted?
[19:05] <yofel> hm, not sure what's needed then :/
[19:06] <Alumin> I just asked in the main KDE channel and they say that notification is a Kubuntu-specific addition
[19:06] <Linkmaster> Hm. Frustrating
[19:06] <Pici> DarkriftX: Yeah. I just dislike 777
[19:06] <DarkriftX> me too
[19:06] <akis> i am the root user too, why i dont own them?
[19:06] <DarkriftX> and the only time i do it is when it doesnt matter
[19:06] <DarkriftX> why are you root?
[19:06] <DarkriftX> if you have to ask how to delete a file, you should not be running commands as root
[19:07] <akis> wait...i mean i have all the privileges
[19:07] <DarkriftX> having roots privs is the same as being root for this conversations purposes
[19:08] <akis> anyway. what can i do to send to trash?
[19:08] <DarkriftX> having the ability to wipe your system out with one typo but not knowing the commands you are running is bad
[19:08] <DarkriftX> what is the path to the folder?
[19:08] <yofel> Linkmaster, MadRobot: you need to restart plasma
[19:08] <akis> home/user/Documents/Temporaries
[19:08] <yofel> alt+f2, then: kquitapp plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop
[19:08] <Linkmaster> That makes sense, now that you present that
[19:09] <Linkmaster> Does it come back by itself, right?
[19:09] <MadRobot> yofel: killall plasma?
[19:09]  * Linkmaster asks since he's never restarted plasma before
[19:09] <DarkriftX> rm -rf /home/user/Documents/Temporaries
[19:09] <yofel> if you use my command yes
[19:09] <yofel> killall just kills it
[19:09] <Linkmaster> Cool stuff, thanks
[19:10] <akis> this command will remove only /temporaries?
[19:10] <Linkmaster> now...for it to come back
[19:10] <akis> and its content?
[19:10] <Linkmaster> and akis, yes
[19:10] <DarkriftX> crap
[19:10] <Linkmaster> but personally, I cd to right above the directory to prevent issues
[19:10] <MadRobot> ok
[19:11] <DarkriftX> dist-upgrade wants to replace my sudoers file. the format seems to have changed
[19:11] <akis> still persmission denied system answers
[19:11] <Linkmaster> what do you have in there?
[19:11] <DarkriftX> just myself
[19:11] <DarkriftX> guess i can just re-add it
[19:11] <yofel> there was a change to sudoers in natty
[19:11] <yofel> so you'll have to merge it
[19:11] <DarkriftX> im just worried about crap breaking again during this upgrade
[19:12] <Linkmaster> yofel: its not coming back D:
[19:12] <MadRobot> yofel: Thanks! That worked. :)
[19:12] <yofel> Linkmaster: then press alt+f2 again: plasma-desktop
[19:12] <Linkmaster> alright...I was contemplating doing something similar, I just didn't want to do something stupid :/
[19:12] <DarkriftX> akis: if root cant delete it, drive is prob read only
[19:12] <DarkriftX> type "id" and paste the result in here
[19:12] <akis> an extract file of java: jre1.6.0_25
[19:12] <DarkriftX> if its a single line
[19:13] <DarkriftX> try: sudo rm -rf /home/user/Documents/Temporaries
[19:13] <Linkmaster> yay, worked for me too. Now I can help people with that in the future, thanks yofel!
[19:13] <yofel> :)
[19:14] <akis> bingo! thanks
[19:15] <DarkriftX> you were *not* root
[19:15] <DarkriftX> and you did *not* have root permissions
[19:15] <DarkriftX> sudo ran that command as root
[19:15] <akis> why denied to be removed with all the other command and finall system accepted the last one?
[19:15] <yofel> he did create the folder as root though (or with  root permissions)
[19:15] <akis> a..ok
[19:15] <DarkriftX> becuase the folder was owned by root, or it had no read permissions
[19:15] <yofel> or as anyone else
[19:15] <DarkriftX> or write
[19:16] <yofel> write in this case (for you)
[19:16] <DarkriftX> yo must have created it with root
[19:16] <akis> maybe because i create it using my root previleges?
[19:16] <DarkriftX> yup
[19:16] <akis> maybe because i created it using my root previleges?
[19:16] <akis> i c. that;s clear
[19:16] <DarkriftX> prob used sudo to dl it or to unpack it
[19:17] <ubuntufreak> I have problem mounting my external usb2.0 hdd here is the issue http://paste.kde.org/75457/
[19:19] <akis> thanks a lot. your advises where ver useful. one more think. i am running 10.04 with a 1,5 ghz celeron and 750 mb ram. kde running well but using chrome for hours the system becomes "heavy". do u think the possibility of maximaze my ram up to 1,5 gb will solve the problem?
[19:20] <DarkriftX> it will help
[19:20] <DarkriftX> nothing "solves" computer speed issues
[19:21] <Linkmaster> [except for removing windows]
[19:21] <DarkriftX> most browsers also leak a little on linux
[19:21] <DarkriftX> so i close them when im done
[19:21] <DarkriftX> and close any tabs running flash that i dont need open
[19:21] <DarkriftX> even better is get a plugin that makes you have to click a button to start a flash object on a page
[19:21] <akis> yes i know all these. it is solution
[19:21] <Linkmaster> I close my web-browsers periodically, though I run one browser that uses constant flash though, which sucks :/
[19:21] <DarkriftX> tons of flash ads cause major memory problems these days
[19:22] <Linkmaster> adblocker for firefox is wonderful in that sense :P
[19:22] <DarkriftX> ok, my dist upgrade completed
[19:22] <DarkriftX> no packages left to install
[19:22] <DarkriftX> but im afraid to reboot now. guess its time to just bite the bullet :S
[19:22] <akis> i tried to load an extension for "a la carte" use of flash but is anavailable (for chrome)
[19:22] <Linkmaster> Natty is good, you'll like it
[19:23] <DarkriftX> im sure, but my dist upgrade died in a fire halfway through
[19:23] <Linkmaster> That....isn't good
[19:23] <DarkriftX> i had to recover it from command line. im worried something else might have broke in the process
[19:23] <Linkmaster> Though Linux has the great ability to be able to recover failed upgrades
[19:23] <Linkmaster> Did you back everything up?
[19:23] <DarkriftX> i read in the changelog that users with pae kernel can have problems with it not installign. i did see it recompiling it during the dist upgrade, so im hoping im safe
[19:24] <akis> flash and ads is the big problem. i have already enabled adblock because i have a big proble to load blogspot pages.
[19:24] <DarkriftX> Linkmaster: i work with computers all the time and know the value of a backup, of course i did not backup anything.....
[19:24] <DarkriftX> :P
[19:24] <Linkmaster> Just making sure you were screwed for life
[19:24] <DarkriftX> i joke daily that the ones who know the need for a backup most are the least likely to do it
[19:24] <Linkmaster> Its true sadly
[19:25] <Linkmaster> I have to force myself to back up my system every so often :P
[19:25] <DarkriftX> ok, bullet, meet teeth. teeth, bullet.. I hope I am back in a few minutes
[19:26] <Linkmaster> Same here, good luck
[19:28] <ubuntufreak> thanks guys fixed the error :-)
[19:32] <darkrift-tablet> it froze
[19:33] <darkrift-tablet> at: stopping read required files inadvance
[19:33] <darkrift-tablet> right after starting apache
[19:34] <roadfish> in "top", I see that "kded4" is running at over 90% CPU ... basically saturating the system. How do I fix this problem? I have an older PC from 2005 and everything was running find in Hardy Kubuntu but now is sluggish in Natty Kubuntu.
[19:39] <darkrift-tablet> anyideas?
[20:07] <wohnpal> hi
[20:07] <wohnpal> how do I do the 3d effects in kde ?
[20:07] <wohnpal> like desktop cube
[20:08] <wohnpal> ????
[20:12] <peace2__> wohnpal: ...
[20:12] <peace2__> wohnpal: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/27/plasma-desktopsl1745.jpg
[20:16] <wohnpal> the desktop effects have already been enabled.. I just don't know how to do them.. I use alt-ctrl and leftmouseclick, but nothing happens
[20:18] <peace2__> wohnpal: ahhhhahaha
[20:18] <wohnpal> don't laugh!
[20:18] <wohnpal> just tell me how
[20:19] <peace2__> wohnpal: ctrl f11
[20:19] <peace2__> wohnpal: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/27/plasma-desktoplG1745.jpg
[20:20] <wohnpal> I looked for info about the keyboard combinations or any form of documentation on kwin but could not find any!!
[20:20] <wohnpal> what about ctrl-alt-left mouse ? ctrl f11 is complicated!!
[20:21] <peace2__> wohnpal: sure oyu can change it
[20:21] <peace2__> wohnpal: look at the screen... just change
[20:23] <wohnpal> well if go to for instance 3d setup and do the settings there is no way to change how it is invoked..
[20:25] <peace2__> wohnpal: say the true , you was a gnome guy?
[20:25] <peace2__> xD
[20:38] <wohnpal> right!
[20:38] <wohnpal> I was ! And now I hate gnome so much, this unity crap is so bad!
[20:38] <wohnpal> it turns a i3 machine into a mobile phone!!!
[20:39] <wohnpal> I did not like kde before, but that was 2 years ago, now it finally does not crash on me every 5 minutes.. no crashed until now!!! it looks good too!
[20:39] <wohnpal> kde is not so popular however, I have the impression kde users are a very small minority.. 90% use gnome...
[20:45] <jmichaelx> wohnpal: i have also preferred several other DEs over Gnome, but keep in mind that the calamity that is presently Unity is NOT Gnome
[20:47] <peace2__> wohnpal: nope
[20:48] <peace2__> wohnpal: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/27/UNity.gif
[20:48] <peace2__> wohnpal: http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/macstyle2.jpeg
[20:48] <peace2__> wohnpal: http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/gnome-defaltt-panel-kde.gif
[20:49] <peace2__> it rocks
[20:54] <wohnpal> gnome shell is the same as unity...
[20:55] <wohnpal> did not try gnome shell but read that it is not fundamentally different from unity
[20:55] <wohnpal> I just don't get it, why would one want to change something that just works!
[20:56] <jmichaelx> wohnpal: good question. that's what many said about KDE4, when it was rolled out long before it should have been
[20:56] <wohnpal> I can have 20 windows open at the same time in gnome 2 and I scroll between them effortlessly.. can't do that in windows... the pc is much slower under windows 7. In unity I had to fiddle around just swapping between 2 windows
[20:57] <wohnpal> well I am not changing back to gnome again... I really like kde.. the screen looks also smoother somehow... each OS has its own kind of effect on the monitor even though the resolution is the same.. it has to do with antialiasing methods probably
[21:10] <nikitis> help  my kubuntu keyboarda stopped letting me use shift and control keys.  what can i do?
[21:44] <vbgunz> anybody have an HD ati card? do you use the "present windows" effect? is it choppy? mines is choppy and I can't figure out why. I have a 5850 and this card should be able to handle that effect. what could be wrong?
[21:47] <bizzy> I have a Lenovo ThinkPad w510 /w Kubuntu 11.04 installed.  It will randomly freeze up where i cant move or intract with any programs.  I cant even turn off/on caps lock. However, I can still move my mouse courser.
[21:47] <bizzy> Can some one help me trouble shoot this?
[21:54] <gr8m8> bizzy:  you could check in ~/.xsession-errors
[21:54] <bizzy> gr8m8: Thanks I'll take a look.
[22:08] <wohnpal> I guess kde only holds 10% of the market or something like that... any ideas why?
[22:08] <wohnpal> I guess it is because it was so unstable in the past...
[22:10] <cpatrick08> gnome will be that was in the future with gnome3 and the gnome-shell xfce will be the linux desktop of tomorrow
[22:17] <vbgunz> anybody have an ati card and super smooth effects? how did you do it? I have a 5850 and I swear I don't think it's gonna happen. any tips?
[22:17] <bizzy> Can some one have a look at this and help me understand whats going on?
[22:19] <wohnpal> xfce? I tried that and did not like it.. it is simple yes, but it is also buggy... and illogical.... it is just no so smooth, for instance if you want to put icons on the startbar
[22:26] <markit> hi, I need to change akonadi from using mysql to sqlite3, since with  mysql creates a HUGE 140MB structure for nothing (I don't use PIM). Is for the server of a school, so imagin 300 students * 140 MB...
[22:27] <markit> any idea? in the server config I can choose among mysql and posgres, no sqlite3 even if sqlite3  package is installed
[22:27] <markit> natty 11.04 here
[22:33] <Jmoey> hi, does anybody know why 'system connection' is greyed out when you add a network in kubuntu 11.04
[22:55] <wohnpal> jmoey: you mean a wireless network?
[22:55] <Jmoey> yep
[22:56] <wohnpal> you mean it is greyed out in the system tray applet for networks?
[23:00] <wohnpal> there are a lot of bugs regarding wireless... with me the connect button was greyed out all the time... in the end I don't know how I got it to work, but I basically installed all the networkmanagers and tools and only installed the kde networkmanager, and then it worked
[23:06] <wohnpal> ??
[23:20] <Darkrift> any gurus around who can help me revive my dead system? never restarted fully after distupgrade from 10.10 to 11.04
[23:21] <Darkrift> it locks up during boot, i can get to a prompt but cant get networking going
[23:21] <Darkrift> dmesg doesnt show anything useful and the spot it locks up has changed 3x so its not always the same thing causing it
[23:24] <Jmoey> yep
[23:25] <Jmoey> sorry for the slow response, xchat didn't blink
[23:26] <Jmoey> Darkrift: what happens if you do sudo service network-manager restart
[23:27] <Darkrift> network-manager start/running process 3917
[23:27] <Darkrift> essid shows off/any in iwconfig
[23:27] <Jmoey> what does the output of lspci give
[23:27] <Darkrift> i can see my card there
[23:28] <Darkrift> it should be configured, it was before the reboot
[23:28] <Darkrift> i just can never get it to connect via cli
[23:28] <Jmoey> are you in recovery mode or single user
[23:28] <Darkrift> during boot it locked up so i hit alt+f5 and logged in
[23:29] <Darkrift> not sure which that is considered
[23:29] <Jmoey> you could try sudo dhclient
[23:29] <Jmoey> to get ethernet connection
[23:29] <Darkrift> it ran, no output, no wifi connection made
[23:29] <Jmoey> are you using proprietary graphics drivers such as nvidia?
[23:29] <Darkrift> yes
[23:29] <Jmoey> that could be the problem
[23:30] <Jmoey> they can give lock-ups
[23:30] <Darkrift> i dont think its a real lock up since i can still login
[23:30] <Darkrift> but the boot process freezes
[23:30] <Jmoey> are you running the latest driver
[23:30] <Darkrift> always near th esame spot, but not exactly
[23:30] <Darkrift> should be, i just did a dist-upgrade before the reboot
[23:30] <Jmoey> you could try sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[23:30] <Darkrift> it looked like it grabbed a new version
[23:30] <Jmoey> but you need networking
[23:31] <Jmoey> can you plug it into ethernet for now
[23:31] <Darkrift> i suck at getting networking working via cli
[23:31] <Darkrift> not really
[23:31] <Darkrift> i dont have a cable long enough
[23:31] <Jmoey> that would be the easiest way
[23:31] <Darkrift> yeah
[23:31] <Jmoey> is your network protected
[23:31] <Darkrift> nope
[23:31] <Darkrift> just by mac
[23:31] <Jmoey> that could be easier then
[23:32] <Jmoey> try iwconfig wlan0 essid yournetworkname
[23:34] <Darkrift> no output but iwconfig still shows no essid and no ap
[23:35] <Darkrift> thanks for working with my btw
[23:35] <Darkrift> i knew that distupgrade was going to die on me
[23:36] <Darkrift> iwlist wlan0 scan gives results
[23:36] <Darkrift> and when grepping it i get my AP listed
[23:36] <Darkrift> just not sure how to tell it to connect
[23:37] <Jmoey> did that work
[23:37] <Jmoey> anyway sorry but have to go now
[23:37] <Darkrift> ok, thx
[23:38] <Jmoey> if you would like me to help you more, drop be an email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:39] <Darkrift> thx
[23:54] <surunveri> hi
[23:54] <surunveri> is there anyway to access linux partitions from windows?


[12:30] <lucasvo> is there a non-gui update-manager for servers?
[12:30] <lucasvo> I am still running breezy
[12:30] <lucasvo> and I'd like to update to dapper
[12:31] <lucasvo> or do it manually?
[12:36] <spike> lucasvo: see the topic, this channel is for ubuntu development discussions only, not for general help. besides, your question is not even server related. said so, such update is just a matter of change mirrors to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list and running apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:45] <Mysta_> hello guys
[12:49] <Mysta_> anyone around?
[01:11] <neuralis> Mysta_: what's up?
[01:12] <Mysta_> I tried to change my hostname, and cannot restart my machine
[01:12] <Mysta_> i receive an error stating, 'sudo: unable to lookup atl-vmware01 via gethostbyname()"
[01:13] <neuralis> add the requisite entry to /etc/hosts, and please use #ubuntu for general questions in the future
[01:14] <Mysta_> even if Im running dapper-server?
[01:16] <neuralis> Mysta_: yes. see the /topic.
[01:16] <Mysta_> neuralis: gotcha
[01:16] <Mysta_> i see it
[01:16] <Mysta_> im not sure i understand your response.
[01:17] <neuralis> if you look at /etc/hosts, you'll find your old hostname in the <IP_ADDRESS> line. replace it with the new hostname.
[01:24] <Mysta_> neuralis: i cannot run sudo, I'll get that same error
[01:24] <Mysta_> ah well, i wont take up your time, i'll go back to #ubuntu, thanks anyway
[01:28] <neuralis> Mysta_: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1045047&postcount=3
[01:28] <Mysta_> neuralis: lookin now thx
[01:33] <fireloard> does ne1 know about setting up cvs in ubuntu server?
[01:36] <neuralis> he does. unfortunately, ne1 is not here right now.
[01:38] <neuralis> vacation in paris.
[01:40] <neuralis> fireloard: http://sanatio.blogspot.com/2005/12/cvs-server-on-ubuntu.html
[01:40] <fireloard> lol thats the guide i used.. i still get a "unrecognized auth response fromlocalhost: pam failed to release authenticator"
[01:41] <spike> why would anybody use cvs in the first place?
[01:41] <spike> besides sadomasochism of course
[01:44] <fireloard> ha
[01:44] <fireloard> i just wanted a source control program... i thought cvs was the major player in that area?
[01:45] <neuralis> fireloard: no. everyone's abandoning it left and right.
[01:46] <neuralis> fireloard: take a look at http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/index.cgi and http://bazaar-vcs.org/ for two good, simple version control systems.
[01:46] <neuralis> fireloard: the latter is produced by the same company that does ubuntu.
[01:46] <neuralis> fireloard: the former is fast. :)
[01:48] <neuralis> packages for both are in ubuntu as mercurial and bzr, respectively, though mercurial is an older version. if you choose it, don't use the package, grab it from the site, or i can give you a 0.9 package.
[01:48] <ajmitch> yeah, we were talking about sticking 0.9 in dapper-backports last night
[01:48] <ajmitch> since it builds simply from sid
[01:49] <ajmitch> just waiting for edgy to open up & get 0.9 so we've got somewhere to backport from
[01:52] <neuralis> yeah
[01:56] <neuralis> [root@pedal board-internal] # cat /etc/redhat-release
[01:56] <neuralis> Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 4 (Nahant Update 3)
[01:56] <neuralis> need to fix that.
[01:58] <Mysta_> neuralis: that worked wonders, thanks alot!
[02:01] <neuralis> Mysta_: sure.
[02:58] <edneymatias> hi!
[03:08] <edneymatias> hello again
[05:28] <edneymatias> bye!
[10:43] <visik7> does ubuntu server has xen ?
[10:46] <spike> kinda
[10:47] <spike> visik7: see ubutu-devel for a recent thread on the topic
[10:47] <spike> basically packets from debian sid does work
[10:47] <neuralis> visik7: not officially.
[10:47] <spike> as a general rule there are some problems because of the way xen guys release patches and ubuntu kernel version
[10:47] <spike> ie, they're not quick enough
[10:48] <visik7> but do I need to use a vanilla kernel in dom0 ?
[10:48] <neuralis> not an ubuntu vanilla kernel, no; it doesn't support xen.
[10:49] <visik7> for vanilla I mean the one on kernel.org
[10:49] <neuralis> well, you can certainly take the ubuntu server kernel, patch it with xen, and roll your own packages.
[10:50] <neuralis> or you can go the vanilla route (be sure to match the udev version, however.)
[11:25] <Pupeno> Hello.
[11:25] <Pupeno> I can't get php to work. Whenever I try to access a php files it just downloads it. Apache doesn't interpret it.
[11:26] <Pupeno> I've installed libapache2-mod-php5, enabled the module, checked the mime types. Apache shows PHP 5 in the signature.
[11:26] <Pupeno> any ideas ?
[11:38] <st_iron> hello


[11:52] <mup> Bug #1699479 opened: test__dhcp_configurations_rendered fails unable to resolve localhost when in ipv6 network <MAAS:In Progress by danilo> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1699479>
[14:55] <nan_> Hello, I'm investigating MAAS and have some questions.
[14:56] <nan_> Can machines be provisioned persistently, or is it on a usage-needed basis?
[14:58] <nan_> As in, when machines are Allocated or Deployed, is that to a specific user or can MAAS be used to run an application server?
[15:04] <pmatulis>  nan_ a MAAS-deployed machine must be allocated to *some* user but once it's up it's available to the network
[15:12] <nan_> pmatulis: so that user could be "admin" etc.?
[15:13] <pmatulis> nan_, sure
[15:15] <nan_> pmatulis: awesome, thanks for that clarification. So does MAAS strictly control hardware allocation? Like, can I run an application on top of it as though it's one large machine?
[15:15] <pmatulis> if you are deploying directly from MAAS (not indirectly via Juju) then that user needs to import public SSH keys if you care about MAAS installing those keys on the deployed machine automatically
[15:15] <roaksoax> nan_: the main goal of MAAS is to deploy machines
[15:15] <roaksoax> nan_: you can use juju, chef, puppet, ansible with MAAS as well
[15:18] <pmatulis> nan_, re hardware allocation, i don't follow. MAAS deploys machines and you do whatever you want with them
[15:19] <pmatulis> you don't install applications on MAAS itself but on the machines it deploys
[15:20] <nan_> pmatulis: roaksoax: so once I've deployed X number of machines, do the provisioned servers appear as a single mega-machine, or still as X individual servers?
[15:21] <pmatulis> individual
[15:21] <pmatulis> nan_, what are you planning?
[15:23] <nan_> pmatulis: my organization runs library software (evergreen-ils.org), and we are looking at new ways to deploy/manage our production cluster
[15:24] <nan_> Individual machines are ideal because we use multiple application servers and DBs
[15:26] <pmatulis> nan_, sweet
[15:28] <nan_> pmatulis: roaksoax: thank you both for your help
[15:28] <nan_> pmatulis++
[15:28] <nan_> roaksoax++
[16:10] <lrensing> hi everyone
[16:10] <lrensing> anyone seen this error before?
[16:10] <lrensing> http://paste.openstack.org/show/613315/
[16:14] <roaksoax> /win 16
[16:14] <roaksoax> lrensing: that seems like some moduls are not installed ?
[16:14] <roaksoax> never seen that error before
[16:55] <mup> Bug #1699555 opened: [Test] Bug to test new jenkins lander bug resolver <MAAS:Triaged by newell-jensen> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1699555>
[23:29] <mup> Bug #1699622 opened: [2.2] dhcp-acquired IP address of a node in rescue mode disappears from cli output and web ui <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1699622>
[23:34] <hel0tsp> ahoy
[23:56] <hel0tsp> do i need impi for maas?