[21:14] <Lok> I have the problem that after a while of being logged in, some signes get replaced by black bars and I have to log in and out
[21:15] <atoi> ubottu, OK, so if I'm trying to figure out what runlevels that nginx and apache are started in...
[21:15] <atoi> how would I do that/
[21:15] <atoi> lol
[21:15] <atoi> guntbert, , OK, so if I'm trying to figure out what runlevels that nginx and apache are started in...
[21:15] <atoi> runlevel just seems to report on runlevels.
[21:16] <karthick87> How to setup an smtp server..?
[21:16] <Lok> does anyone know about this stupid font problem
[21:16] <llutz> karthick87: to do what=
[21:17] <llutz> ?
[21:17] <ilovefairuz> !smtp > karthick
[21:17] <ilovefairuz> !smtp | karthick
[21:18] <llutz> karthick87: easiest, install nullmailer/msmtp.  advanced, install postfix
[21:18] <HexelPDKK> computerx: how about  find . -name *.php | xargs cat | wc -l
[21:18] <HasanAtizaz> how do i turn on the cache in squid 3
[21:18] <HasanAtizaz> ?
[21:19] <guntbert> atoi: looking...
[21:19] <atoi> guntbert, I'm looking at `man update-rc.d`
[21:19] <atoi> so I may find it here pretty fast.
[21:19] <eaerth> hey guys, for some reason my ubuntu start-up usb for lucid isn't booting at all, i get some weird stuff and it pops down, "boot:" like it would normally show "username$:" in a terminal?
[21:19] <atoi> since I think this is the command I need.
[21:19] <llutz> karthick87: easiest, install nullmailer/msmtp
[21:19] <llutz> !pm > karthick87
[21:20] <eaerth> checked it wit hthe md5sum thing or whatever it is and the iso is fine...
[21:21] <daniel_> is there a good place where i could post a "kubuntu installation experience feedback" ? :)
[21:21] <area51pilot> I can not connect to a wired network after update this morning, ifconfig up & down works sometimes.  WiFi is OK.  pppoeconf results: error:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/521626/
[21:21] <area51pilot> help pls
[21:21] <guntbert> atoi: you were quicker than I - but you may want to see http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ too (depends if you app has already been upstartified)
[21:22] <atoi> guntbert, well, I basically just installed nginx and apache with aptitude and I want to make sure that by default only apache runs.
[21:22] <csmith1994> hey guys, does anyone on here add books to their ipad? I was wondering if I do that through rhythmbox or another program, or if it's not available
[21:23] <llutz> atoi: sysv-rc-conf
[21:23] <computerx> HexelPDKK: It worked, but didn't recurse folders
 how to install nullmailer/msmtp
[21:23] <rooka> hi there! is this the ubuntu support channel?
[21:23] <llutz> karthick87: sudo aptitude install msmtp               or use apt-get when aptitude isn't isntalled
[21:23] <atoi> THERE we go.
[21:23] <csmith1994> rooka: yup, whats your problem?
[21:23] <atoi> thanks llutz
[21:23] <S0me1> hi
[21:23] <S0me1> I would like monitoring my system logs, if there is any error or failure happen, alerts me via email. Could you please advice?
[21:23] <csmith1994> not in that way rooka
[21:24] <llutz> karthick87: how to config: http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/documentation.html
[21:24] <g-hennux> hi!
[21:24] <rooka> i just finished installing the new ubuntu on a virtual machine. then i encrypted the home directory and did a reboot
[21:24] <guntbert> atoi: then I'd try with update-rd.d first
[21:24] <rooka> now while booting the system stucks while showing some numbers
[21:25] <guntbert> atoi: listen to what llutz said
[21:25] <csmith1994> hmm. does it boot into the os or does it freeze during boot rooka?
[21:25] <g-hennux> when using the proprietary via driver for my chrome 9 card on ubuntu 10.10, i get an error message in Xorg.0.log saying: "dlopen: [path to via_drv.so]: undefined symbol: miEmptyData" -- any idea?
[21:26] <karthick87> installed msmtp,what next
[21:26] <c3l> when tying to read a SD card I get trouble. trying to list it with fdisk (sudo fdisk -l) causes fdisk to freeze. but the SD card works fine in my digital camera, what could be the problem? this happens on two computers (all ive tried on)
[21:26] <rafal_> siema
[21:26] <rooka> well, it is booting for 10 minutes now
[21:26] <rooka> showing lots of random numbers
[21:26] <rooka> and like "udevd 279" "Call Trace" aso....
[21:26] <Bouazza> Is there an opensource broadcom driver please ?
[21:27] <karthick87> how to check whether my msmtp working properly
[21:27] <llutz> karthick87: send a mail
[21:27] <HexelPDKK> computerx: I just tested the recursion in my home directory with no problem - run the find first on its own, and see what it returns. Remember that "find ." searches from your current location - you might need an absolute path to somewhere (e.g. find /usr/local -name *.php)
[21:28] <karthick87> what is the command for sending mails
[21:29] <computerx> HexelPDKK: I changed it to find . -name *.php -print and it doesn't recurse folders
[21:30] <HasanAtizaz> how do i turn on the cache in squid 3
[21:30] <computerx> HexelPDKK: and just find on it's own does display all folders and files as I'd expect
[21:31] <Alaric_> hello, how can I find tab for gnome themes?
[21:31] <Alaric_> on gnome-look.org
[21:31] <S0me1>  I would like monitoring my system logs, if there is any error or failure happen, alerts me via email. Could you please advice?
[21:31] <S0me1> any advice?
[21:31] <S0me1> except logwatch
 what is the command for sending mails
[21:32] <cyprys> Bouazza, I'm just curious - why do you want open source driver? Is there something wrong with the proprietary one?
[21:32] <blakkheim> !repeat | karthick87
[21:32] <HexelPDKK> computerx: Do you want each php file, with it's line count, or the total number of lines in all files?
[21:32] <Bouazza> cyprys: I just found that the proprietary one slows down my system
[21:32] <computerx> Total number of lines in all php files
[21:32] <Alaric_> hello, how can I find tab for gnome themes on gnome-look.org
[21:33] <llutz> karthick87: mailx -s sometestmail<EMAIL_ADDRESS><mail.txt
[21:33] <joe__> hello
[21:33] <cyprys> Bouazza: I had no idea. Is this common or does this regard only your rig?
[21:33] <joe__> anyone help me learn some hacking skills
[21:33] <Error404NotFound> I have a disk on which i had Ubuntu installed, same version as the one on this box except that that ones kernal is older, i want to restore each adn every bit from that disk to this box, how would i do that? Would mounting everything except /dev, /proc and /boot help?
[21:33] <Alaric_> hello, how can I find tab for gnome themes
[21:33] <Bouazza> cyprys: two people were also complaining at the french ubuntu forums
[21:34] <cyprys> joe__: you funny. :)
[21:34] <cyprys> Bouazza: Oh, OK. Thank you for this information.
[21:34] <joe__> thank you
[21:34] <ZykoticK9> joe__, your question is offtopic for this channel
[21:34] <tripelb> Alaric_, what does "tab for gnome themes" mean?
[21:35] <joe__> whats this channels topic?
[21:35] <Alaric_> sorry i'm french, i search  gnome themes
[21:35] <HexelPDKK> computerx: Ok, what I said earlier is doing that for me. The xargs cat calls cat for each found file, then wc sums the lines. Not sure what to suggest - can you cat any of the files (i.e. do you have read access)
[21:35] <ZykoticK9> joe__, ubuntu support only
[21:35] <joe__> o ok
[21:35] <joe__> well then
[21:36] <Bouazza> cyprys: no problem . I'll downgrade to the 10.04 to see if the broadcom driver works better there .
[21:36] <Alaric_> tripelb it means "rubric" or heading?
[21:36] <computerx> HexelPDKK: Yup, they're owned by the logged in user, owner, group and world readable. I can cat them just fine.
[21:36] <betz> Hi! i want to install a fresh ubuntu, but by creating a new partition from the left free space on my current ubuntu partition. Can i do that? Does someone knows a good article on that?  I have tried that also. :(
[21:36] <Jemt> Hello. I'm testing 10.10 Netbook Edition on an IBM X31 laptop. After I log on, the desktop/icons/menus keeps re-initializing (disappearing and reappears over and over again). Any suggestions ?
[21:36] <joeyeye> can someone help getting wicd to work with 10.10 on HP mini 311 (Broadcom 43xx STA driver) - thanks!
[21:37] <ZykoticK9> imanc, does "killall -9 gedit" work?
[21:37] <imanc> ZykoticK9: nope :(
[21:37] <tripelb> imanc there 's a ps command that will tell you the process number that is running.  I forgot exactly ps -something
[21:37] <computerx> ps -A | grep gedit
[21:37] <imanc> tripelb: yeh: ps aux | grep gedit
 it keeps blinking
[21:38] <imanc> and it's listing two entries one for grpe, one for the app itself
[21:38] <a77b> list
[21:38] <ZykoticK9> imanc, if you use "ps aux | grep gedit" who owns the process?  root?
[21:39] <andrew__> can anyone tell me how to move my panel from one monitor to the other, or put one on my seond monitor?
[21:39] <imanc> ZykoticK9: it'll be me. I'm not running as root
[21:39] <daniel__> i cant connect to wireless networks?
[21:39] <Guest12209> i
[21:39] <Alaric_> I seek to http://gnome-look.org/ but I do not complete themes, where are they?
[21:39] <test34> no more gnome in the next version of Ubuntu?
[21:39] <rww> !unity | test34
[21:40] <daniel__> its scandal
[21:40] <test34> thanks rww
[21:40] <happyhessian> i've just encountered a new and rather odd problem.  somehow my alsamixer and hd mute button are interchanged--when i "mute" in alsamixer, the mute light goes off and when i "unmute" in alsamixer it goes on.  the combined effect is that i have no sound whatsoever.  is there any way i can manually untangle this situation?
[21:40] <llutz> karthick87: i already gave you a link for msmtp, read it. bsd-mailx also comes with documentation, read it.
[21:40] <Alaric_> I seek to http://gnome-look.org/ but I do not complete themes, where are they?
[21:40] <danie568> hello :)
[21:41] <happyhessian> by hd i meant hardware, sorry for the confusion
[21:41] <daniel__> i cant connect to wireless networks, even through terminal. wired networks do work though
 is it possible send emails to hotmail and gmail..?
[21:41] <test34> rww, shell as in command line?
[21:41] <llutz> karthick87: how to config: http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/documentation.html
[21:41] <danie568> can somebody tell me how to get rid of the +i flag in Quassel?
[21:41] <andrew__> does anyone know how to put a panel or move a panel to my second monitor?
[21:42] <test34> rww, nevermind I think I get it now
[21:42] <anygivenname> can an expert help me out with the steps on this link ==> http://www.howtoforge.com/preventing_ssh_dictionary_attacks_with_denyhosts
[21:42] <ZykoticK9> andrew__, drag it - if you have twinview/xinerama
[21:42] <andrew__> ZykticK9:  ATI card
[21:42] <ZykoticK9> !tab > andrew__
[21:43] <ZykoticK9> andrew__, are you using xinerama (one big desktop) OR 2 X sessions?
[21:43] <llutz> anygivenname: thats outdated, take this one http://www.medorion.net/p/31.xhtml
[21:43] <andrew__> ZykoticK9, I think I am using 2 seperate ones
[21:44] <andrew__> ZykoticK9, they are different sizes so that's what I would assume
[21:44] <ZykoticK9> andrew__, then i don't think you can simply move them.  best of luck.
[21:44] <daniel__> help! i cant connect to wireless networks
[21:44] <seeker60> how do you install using sudo when the driver package resides in /home/billy/Downloads
[21:45] <Nastya> Hi everyone!
[21:45] <area51pilot> I can not connect to a wired network after update this morning, ifconfig up & down works sometimes.  WiFi is OK.  pppoeconf results: error:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/521626/   ..... anyone  :D
[21:45] <Nastya> How can I convert m4a to mp3? My new shiny walkman doesn't support this format
[21:46] <erUSUL> !info winff
[21:46] <ZykoticK9> seeker60, "sudo /path/to/binary" ?  not sure what you're asking really.
[21:46] <KnickLighter> Anything wrong with the ubuntu mirrors
[21:46] <bobbylelonek> hello
[21:46] <daniel__> help! i cant connect to wireless networks
[21:46] <dox_drum> Hello there. Guys after installing 10.10 emacs does not enables Flyspell-mode, Google seems to give no solution. Does anyone knows how to solve this problem?
[21:47] <bobbylelonek> just rooted, how do you tell if it was correctly rooted?
[21:47] <bobbylelonek> any ideas?
[21:47] <daniel__> help! i cant connect to wireless networks please
[21:47] <ZykoticK9> daniel_, have you installed a wireless driver?  System / Admin / Additional Drivers (on 10.10).  do you know what type of wireless card you are using?
[21:47] <seeker60> ZykoticK9:  i have some linux drivers i got from the nvidia site and I need to install them they are in /home/billy/Downloads
[21:47] <gartral|p> I need a busybox expert.. I can't gey maverick too boot from cd or pendrive. I know the install from unetbootin went smoothly. And the iso's md5 matches that of what's on the mirrors..
[21:48] <ZykoticK9> seeker60, sorry I won't help with that.  best of luck (i strongly recommend using the nvidia drivers provided by Ubuntu)
[21:48] <Merowig> Hello
[21:49] <karthick87> how to view hardware informations..?
[21:49] <ZykoticK9> karthick87, one way is to look at either "dmesg" output or "lspci" or "lsusb"
[21:49] <daniel__> ZykoticK9: it says no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[21:50] <seeker60> ZykoticK9: ok what package do i need to use in apt-get for those nvidia drivers
[21:50] <ZykoticK9> daniel_, is your wireless a pci card or usb?
[21:50] <tripelb> imanc, thanks. took a bit joe_ was a kid and I talked to him about learning linux and shell commands as a next step and that hackers are master programmers.
[21:50] <ZykoticK9> seeker60, if you're using 10.10 - use the recommended version from System / Admin / Additional Drivers
[21:50] <Sean93> im trying to install Aion but it is frozen, It hasn't moved in 3 hours, what should i do?
[21:51] <Merowig> What is Aion ? A game ?
[21:51] <ZykoticK9> seeker60, in my personal case, the apt-get equivalent is "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"
[21:51] <pr0xy> how do I turn off nomodeset now that I have my drivers installed?
[21:51] <Sean93> Merowig: yes
[21:51] <daniel__> pci i think
[21:51] <gartral|p> I need a busybox expert.. I can't gey maverick too boot from cd or pendrive. I know the install from unetbootin went smoothly. And the iso's md5 matches that of what's on the mirrors.. I'm stuck..
[21:51] <Merowig> That looks great :o
[21:52] <ZykoticK9> daniel_, if it's pci check if it's listed using "lspci | grep net"
[21:52] <seeker60> ZykoticK9: i get the no proprietary drivers are found on this system when i do additional drivers
[21:53] <ZykoticK9> seeker60, "lspci | grep -i vga"
[21:53] <daniel__> i dont know what my driver is though, it worked previously on my version of ubuntu
[21:53] <cheater99> hi guys!
[21:53] <cheater99> my gnome panel is very thick (144 px high), i would like to have a square area in it where i have icons of launchers, lined up in multiple rows and columns. is this possible? i've been trying to do this for a week now already... i can't believe it's so simple in windows, but gnome is having problems! please tell me this isn't be true
[21:54] <cheater99> s/be // ;-)
[21:54] <ZykoticK9> cheater99, like "add to panel" then drawer?  not sure what you're asking exactly.
[21:54] <cheater99> ZykoticK9: yeah, but then the icons are very big...
[21:55] <cheater99> ZykoticK9: and they only line up in one row
[21:55] <ZykoticK9> cheater99, ? i have no idea - good luck.
[21:55] <cheater99> ZykoticK9: i have resized my panel to be bigger because i normally use a lot of windows when i work
[21:55] <cheater99> thanks anyways ZykoticK9
[21:55] <seeker60> ZykoticK9: corrupted filesytme tarfile
[21:55] <seeker60> -corrupted package archive
[21:56] <RobSpectre> Anyone getting weird Flash performance in VMware after upgrading to Maverick?
[21:56] <Jemt> Hello again. I'm testing Netbook Edition. Whenever I move the mouse to the left side panel, it disappears and re-emerges after a few seconds. How can I fix that ?
[21:56] <ZykoticK9> seeker60, what?  where is that coming from?  I already said i wouldn't help you with the Nvidia driver (if you're using the downloaded version)
[21:56] <Jemt>  --- The ordinary Ubuntu 10.10 works very well
[21:56] <daniel__> ZykoticK9, i dont know what my driver is but it worked previously on 10.10
[21:57] <seeker60> ZykoticK9: no that came when i tried to install nvidia-current as you suggested
[21:57] <Sean93> im trying to install Aion but it is frozen, It hasn't moved in 3 hours, what should i do?3
[21:57] <ZykoticK9> daniel_, do you see your card if you run in a terminal "lspci | grep net"?  if you do post the card info to the channel perhaps (assuming one line only!)
[21:57] <area51pilot>  I can not connect to a wired network after update this morning, ifconfig up & down works sometimes.  WiFi is OK.  pppoeconf results: error:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/521626/   ..... anyone  :D
[21:58] <Merowig> Is it a windows game?
[21:58] <area51pilot> Sean93 ... what is Aion
[21:58] <metap0d> Hey guys, do you mind if I ask how the support is for mobile radeon cards ?
[21:58] <Sean93> area51pilot: a game
[21:58] <Sean93> Merowig: yes
[21:58] <bt> hello everyone :)
[21:58] <area51pilot> Sean93, what media if any r u using?
[21:58] <ZykoticK9> seeker60, seeing tarfile is a VERY strange error for an Ubuntu install?  I have no idea - plus if Additional Drivers doesn't see your card I doubt installing nvidia-current will work (maybe?)
[21:59] <Sean93> Merowig: im installing it in wine
[21:59] <bt> any firewall for ubuntu?
[21:59] <Sean93> area51pilot: im installing it using an exe from the harddrive
[21:59] <ZykoticK9> seeker60, and I didn't "suggest" you do that - i said in MY case that's what I could do - but i use Additional Drivers.
[21:59] <pr0xy> how do I get a graphical plymouth theme?
[21:59] <area51pilot> Sean93: Wine install?
[21:59] <metap0d> Hey how is the support for mobile radeon cards in Ubuntu 10.10?
[21:59] <Sean93> area51pilot: yes
[21:59] <area51pilot> Sean93 ... might be missing some DLL's
[22:00] <Sean93> should i try installing in windows?
[22:00] <Merowig> Is there anything in the shell ?
[22:00] <ZykoticK9> metap0d, (personal opinion only!) but avoid ATI if you can.  I understand that Nvidia in portables adds a lot of expense.  good luck.
[22:01] <metap0d> ZykoticK9: I'm interested in an Acer laptop at an awesome price but it happens to have an ATI dedicated card and Intel onboard card that it toggles (for power consumption) .. I'm curious how that goes in Linux
[22:01] <mustafa> hi, is there any way to restore eclipse like a fresh install in ubuntu??
[22:01] <seeker60> ZykoticK9: well when i use additional drivers it says no proprietory drivers found for use with this system.  should i start from scratch and reinstall ubuntu?
[22:01] <gartral|p> I can't boot maverick from usb, it throws (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: invalid argument can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs
[22:01] <ZykoticK9> metap0d, speaking "generally" only, ati is poor
[22:01] <ZykoticK9> seeker60, have you run all system updates?
[22:02] <cheater99> found it!
[22:02] <cheater99> http://quick-lounge.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
[22:02] <pr0xy> I don't see a graphical plymouth thing on startup. it's only text that says "Ubuntu 10.10" and 4 dors underneath
[22:02] <ZykoticK9> seeker60, don't reinstall - probably no difference
[22:02] <pr0xy> dots*
[22:02] <caliga> is there a good place where i could post a "kubuntu installation experience feedback" ? :)
[22:02] <seeker60> ZykoticK9: i ran sudo apt-get update
[22:02] <mustafa> hi, is there any way to restore eclipse like a fresh install in ubuntu??
[22:03] <ZykoticK9> seeker60, that's part 1.  then run "sudo apt-get upgrade" to do updates, or even better "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[22:04] <daniel_> hi caliga
[22:04] <seeker60> ZykoticK9:unmet dependencies use -f install
[22:04] <ZykoticK9> seeker60, FYI "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is the equivalent of running the Update Manager GUI application.
[22:05] <ZykoticK9> seeker60, "sudo apt-get -f install"
[22:05] <gartral|p> I can't boot maverick from usb, it throws (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: invalid argument can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs
[22:05] <daniel__> ZykoticK9, the card i have is not in the supported list but i think the list is not up to date because it has only up to ubuntu 8.10 and the cards shown are also older cards than the one i have
[22:05] <ZykoticK9> seeker60, you have broken packages!
[22:05] <ZykoticK9> daniel_, have you told me what card it is?
[22:06] <daniel__> no its Broadcom BCM4401
[22:06] <daniel_> ZycoticK9, he is daniel with _ _
[22:06] <seeker60> ZykoticK9: and that is when I get the corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
[22:06] <daniel__> here is the broadcom compatible cards https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBroadcom
[22:06] <ZykoticK9> daniel_, sorry man, i really don't know anything about Broadcom cards, but I know they require some specific steps sometimes - i see lots of help for them in this channel.  best of luck man.
[22:07] <daniel__> ok thanks
[22:07] <ZykoticK9> seeker60, i have no idea what a "filesystem tarfile" is.  sorry i can't help you either I'm affraid.  best of luck man.
[22:08] <sion> Does anyone know if it's possible to play fallout 3 on Ubuntu using Wine?
[22:08] <seeker60> ZykoticK9: so what are broken packages and how do we unbreak them sounds like a reinstall
[22:08] <Jordan_U> !appdb | sion
[22:08] <japaxican> Does anyone here have problems running Unity?
[22:08] <mustafa> hi, is there any way to restore eclipse like a fresh install in ubuntu??
[22:08] <ZykoticK9> seeker60, broken packages are caused when something only partially installed, but didn't finish properly
[22:08] <sion> Cool, does that show games which are compatible?
[22:09] <ZykoticK9> sion, yes
[22:09] <KnickLighter> do-release-upgrade does not work from 10.04 to 10.10 does it?
[22:09] <tripelb> Just for my interest - how can I generate a random 6 digit number mod 2 - err I mean in binary.
[22:09] <ZykoticK9> KnickLighter, not by default - LTS will only upgrade to LTS (by default)
[22:09] <goltoof> someone here use google-cli ?
[22:10] <rww> KnickLighter: see the server section of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-n-irc-council
[22:10] <rww> ... wrong URL, sorry
[22:10] <rww> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades
[22:10] <seeker60> ZykoticK9: thanks a bunch I have a new project for tomorrow.
[22:10] <KnickLighter> Lol rww, i was like whaaat
[22:11] <toyman61> Ubuntu 10.04: How to record sound from a YouTube-video using Audacity ?
[22:11] <rww> KnickLighter: I'm multitasking with a UDS session; my clipboard got confused ;P
[22:11] <KnickLighter> haha
[22:11] <KnickLighter> np
[22:11] <KnickLighter> thanks for the link though
[22:12] <japaxican> Can anyone help me to get unity to work properly?
[22:13] <Milosz> I'm having issues with compiz when switching to an external monitor with my notebook
[22:13] <vdubhack> anyone know what module pkit is, and how to fix a program complaining its not installed?
[22:13] <Milosz> is this known?
[22:13] <Milosz> vdubhack, package-kit?
[22:13] <vdubhack> milosz: not sure thats all it gave me in the error and google turns up a bunch of possibilities :P
[22:13] <tripelb> re UPdates for 10.04 - the last set of updates I was offered "could Not Be Authenticated" -- what's this about? I refused them as I have before.
[22:14] <Milosz> vdubhack, quite sure it's package-kit
[22:14] <vdubhack> milosz: OK thanks I will give it a shot :)
[22:14] <Milosz> vdubhack, if not, write me off as cheeky and come back asking :P
[22:14] <novato_br> japaxican, you should say "anyone help me how to make device to work properly?"
[22:15] <test34> tripelb, is that the exact error message?
[22:16] <test34> tripelb, try this: http://changelog.complete.org/archives/496-how-to-solve-the-following-packages-cannot-be-authenticated
[22:16] <novato_br> japaxican, what do you want to make?
[22:16] <tripelb> novato_br japaxican I like japaxican 's version better.
[22:16] <storrgie> Can I install ubuntu to a disk that is plugged into my computer, while I am in ubuntu already?
[22:16] <novato_br> japaxican, what device do you want to make to work?
[22:17] <KnickLighter> debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog
[22:17] <KnickLighter> debconf: (No usable dialog-like program is installed, so the dialog based frontend cannot be used. at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Dialog.pm line 75.)
[22:17] <KnickLighter> whats that?
[22:17] <sjefen6> Are there any unbundled ubuntu builds? (no openoffice, games, browsers etc...)
[22:17] <vdubhack> milosz: do you know what its called pkit package-kit return nothing in apt-cache search
[22:17] <rammyIRC> i want to connect the remote desktop in windows
[22:17] <Milosz> vdubhack, wait
[22:17] <rammyIRC> im using rdesktop
[22:17] <rammyIRC> not working
[22:18] <Milosz> vdubhack, "packagekit"
[22:18] <archlich> rammyIRC, do you have remote desktop enabled
[22:18] <rammyIRC> u mean in windows?
[22:18] <rammyIRC> yes
[22:18] <archlich> rammyIRC, yes, is the port open?
[22:18] <vdubhack> milosz: doh didnt think of that way to spell it sorry
[22:18] <vdubhack> Thanks
[22:18] <rammyIRC> i dont know if port is open
[22:18] <Milosz> vdubhack, here's a tip
[22:18] <rammyIRC> how to check it
[22:19] <archlich> rammyIRC, nmap, but i just read it's udp not tcp.  whats the error you're receiving
[22:19] <Milosz> vdubhack, if you don't know the exact name, start synaptic, use search and select "Name" and type in the word fragments separated by space if you don't know whether there's a hyphen or not or some other character
[22:19] <Milosz> i think apt-cache search package kit would have worked too
[22:19] <Milosz> well just giving a tip
[22:20] <vdubhack> milosz: oh cool thanks did not know those ways to do it I always use the - in the searches :P
[22:20] <KenBW2-laptop> I've been trying to get my ATI Radeon X1300 working with Maverick, I installed the official driver from their website (a .run file) and now I don't see anything on the screen. Ideas?
[22:20] <rammyIRC> Error Msg : You must be granted the Allow log on through the Terminal Services Right
[22:20] <greened> is there a compression-extraction tool with a functioning progressbar?
[22:20] <novato_br> japaxican, which device do you want to put to work?
[22:21] <Daani> Hello, I am really new to ubuntu. been googling around but what is "cross-compilation toolchain"
[22:21] <Daani> I am supposed to install that
[22:22] <KenBW2-laptop> Daani: probably not something you need if youre new to ubuntu :P
[22:22] <archlich> rammyIRC, your user doesn't have permissions to allow remote desktop, regardless if its enabled.  you'll need to add it to remote users group (dont remember how to do this)  maybe this will help http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc781509%28WS.10%29.aspx
[22:22] <vdubhack> milosz: I just searched my desktop and kpackagekit is installed and I am on a gnome only desktop should I remove that one ?
[22:22] <greened> the progressbar in the standard uncompression-tool doesn't work properly
[22:22] <greened> is there an alternative?
[22:22] <Daani> KenBW2-laptop my teacher told me to install it haha :D
[22:23] <anygivenname> how to restart cron ?
[22:23] <Milosz> vdubhack, no need to
[22:23] <rammyIRC> archlich: I have done all those config
[22:23] <Milosz> vdubhack, but if you don't use KDE you can
[22:23] <rammyIRC> its still not working
[22:23] <archlich> rammyIRC, can you connect to it using windows
[22:23] <vdubhack> milosz: OK thanks just wanted to be sure
[22:23] <ZykoticK9> anygivenname, "sudo service cron restart" i believe
[22:23] <Milosz> vdubhack, but
[22:24] <Milosz> vdubhack, if you deinstall it, I'm sure apt will want to take the entire KDE desktop with it
[22:24] <vdubhack> anygivenname: /etc/init.d/cron restart
[22:24] <Milosz> i.e. KDE depends on kpackagekit
[22:24] <ZykoticK9> vdubhack, using init.d is the old method FYI
[22:24] <Milosz> no you can use "service"
[22:24] <Milosz> sudo service cron restart
[22:25] <Milosz> and is actually the preferred method since upstart
[22:25] <greened> is there a compression-extraction tool with a functioning progressbar?
[22:25] <vdubhack> milosz: I never installed the KDE desktop this is a fresh install
[22:25] <ZykoticK9> !repeat | greened
[22:25] <Milosz> vdubhack, hmm well then when in doubt, leave it
[22:25] <Daani> but anyway does anyone know how I install cross-compilation toolchain
[22:25] <Milosz> Daani, just install the compiler needed, it should take everything needed with it
[22:25] <Milosz> make sure you install flex and so on
[22:25] <vdubhack> milosz: ok thanks sorry for the million questions, switching to ubuntu from fed
[22:25] <greened> ZykoticK9, ok, so no one knows about it?
[22:26] <Milosz> vdubhack, welcome to Ubuntu then!
[22:26] <joeyeye> can someone help getting wicd to work with 10.10 on HP mini 311 (Broadcom 43xx STA driver) - thanks!
[22:26] <ZykoticK9> greened, if they did "they would probably answer you"
[22:26] <Milosz> joeyeye, alt+f2 -> gksu jockey-gtk
[22:26] <Daani> Milosz hmm he told me to install cross-compilation toolchain and then later on Eclipse IDE
[22:26] <Daani> I feel like a question mark
[22:26] <Milosz> Daani, i'm pretty sure you don't need Eclipse
[22:26] <Milosz> it's just an IDE
[22:26] <Daani> he told me to :S
[22:26] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[22:26] <Milosz> wohoow
[22:26] <Milosz> nice split
[22:27] <Daani> I think we are supposed to use it in school,
[22:27] <greened> ZykoticK9, allright, I just thought people missed it, since it seemed like a pretty simple question and I thought people here were knowledgeable
[22:27] <Milosz> well if you're supposed to use it, use it :P
[22:27] <Daani> yes that is what im asking here haha
[22:27] <Daani> how do I find it and install it :S
[22:27] <joeyeye> Milosz, yes I use the proprietary drivers...
[22:27] <ZykoticK9> Daani, the package "build-essential" includes a lot of compiler requirements, not sure if it has cross compiling stuff.
[22:28] <Daani> okey!
[22:28] <Daani> so it sounds weird that he said exactly this "install cross-compilation toolchain" then install "Eclipse IDE"
[22:28] <joeyeye> Milosz, yes I use the proprietary drivers...
[22:29] <ironsight> you can cross-compile to windows with mingw
[22:29] <ironsight> google for a mingw in ubuntu tutorial :)
[22:29] <ubuvillain> having a problem upgrading, it says "Resolve generated breaks" after setting software channels
[22:29] <Burmoz> Hi,
[22:30] <Burmoz> I'm trying to play Wolfenstein Enemy Territory but I have no sound. When I run it from a terminal I get the following error:
[22:30] <ubuvillain> going 10.04 to 10.10
[22:30] <Burmoz> ------- sound initialization -------
[22:30] <Burmoz> /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[22:30] <Burmoz> Could not open /dev/dsp
[22:30] <Burmoz> ------------------------------------
[22:30] <Burmoz> After some googeling I tried to instal oss-compat but that gives errors too:
[22:30] <Burmoz> FATAL: Module snd_seq_oss not found
[22:30] <Burmoz> FATAL: Module snd_mixer_oss not found
[22:30] <Burmoz> FATAL: Module snd_pcm_oss not found
[22:30] <Burmoz> I can play music, movies and other games fine, only Wolfenstein doesn't work. Can anyone help me with this?
[22:30] <vdubhack> milosz: Still getting the no module pkit error after installing packagekit :( thanks for the effort :)
[22:30] <joeyeye> can someone help getting wicd to work with 10.10 on HP mini 311 (Broadcom 43xx STA driver) - thanks!
[22:30] <ironsight> Burmoz, sudo apt-get install alsa-oss then run the game like... aoss ./game
[22:31] <test34> if I start the synaptic package manager and enter the wrong password, it doesn't complain (no bad password error) but doesnt open any windows... is this a bug in my installation or is standard behaviour
[22:31] <ironsight> Burmoz, like if I wanted to play... newwolf... aoss /path/to/newwolf
[22:31] <ZykoticK9> Burmoz, in addition to ironsight's suggestion above - a very good one.  you might want to try "pasuspender et" to disable Pulse as well (not sure if it will have any effect before/after the alsa-oss)
[22:32] <vdubhack> joeyeye: Are you sure its not the wireless driver giving you issues? I have seen that card model on a bunch of stickies while searching for stuff for my laptop
[22:32] <ubuvillain> having a problem upgrading, it says "Resolve generated breaks" after setting software channels - any help?
[22:33] <Milosz> Burmoz, you could try padsp
[22:33]  * ironsight wishes linux audio never fragmented so bad
[22:33] <vdubhack> joeyeye: it should be uninstall networkmanager install wicd, restart computer click applet on restart to manage networks
[22:33] <Burmoz> ironsight: "alsa-oss is already the newest version.", still no sound..
[22:34] <joeyeye> vdubhack, it could well be the driver - however the card does work with nm-applet, I just prefer wicd
[22:34] <ironsight> Burmoz, how do you usally launch the wolf client?
[22:34] <vdubhack> joeyeye: Ahhh ok no clue then sorry
[22:34] <Burmoz> Milosz: like " padsp et"? Didn't work..
[22:34] <Burmoz> ironsight: I just type et in the console
[22:35] <ironsight> type in aoss et
[22:35] <meonkeys> is dbus-daemon needed on a server?
[22:35] <Burmoz> ironsight: still nothing
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> meonkeys, you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server
[22:35] <meonkeys> will do, ok
[22:35]  * ironsight get's wolfet to check this out
[22:38] <travaler> when I do rm -r on a folder it askes me to confirm for every file, how can I automate this?
[22:38] <Milosz> travaler, rm -rf
[22:38] <Milosz> man rm
[22:39] <anygivenname> why do I run chmod & it says operation not permitted ?
[22:39] <Milosz> anygivenname, on what do you chmod?
[22:39] <travaler> Milosz thanks
[22:40] <anygivenname> chmod 600 on a file
[22:40] <anygivenname> i have done sudo chmod 600.......& dunno if this was ok or not....it did not give any indication
[22:41] <archlich> anygivenname, why are you using &
[22:41] <archlich> anygivenname, also run a     lsattr filename
[22:41] <ironsight> Burmoz, I wonder if iowolfet is out yet...
[22:42] <anygivenname> i am following the steps  "Because this file contains sensitive information such as the password of your mail account we will chmod it to 600 so only the root user can view the file"
[22:42] <morbidwar>  have some problems with iptables, i cannot dns query, could somebody help me? http://pastebin.com/nunR5MMh
[22:43] <ironsight> Burmoz, keep an eye on http://ioquake3.org/2010/08/12/welcome-wolfenstein-enemy-territory-and-return-to-castle-wolfenstein/ since they are re-writing it with SDL sound
[22:43] <anygivenname> did sudo chmod 600..... do anything ?
[22:43] <archlich> anygivenname, take a look at the file     ls -l filename
[22:44] <Burmoz> ironsight: I hadn't heard of that yet, sounds like a good idea. Thanks for pointing it out.
[22:45] <anygivenname> what do u mean ?
[22:45] <archlich> anygivenname, what file are you trying to chmod?
[22:45] <anygivenname> ssmtp.conf
[22:45] <jjiipptt_> hi
[22:45] <archlich> anygivenname, run a ls -l smtp.conf and paste the results
[22:46] <Gskellig> is something wrong with mutter? gnome on my ubuntu netbook remix is running really slow and crashes occassionally
[22:46] <Gskellig> but normal ubuntu is fine
[22:46] <quidnunc> Why does upstart predepend on libc 2.11?
[22:47] <quidnunc> but I have 2.12 installed?
[22:47] <Gskellig> UNR 10.10 btw
[22:48] <anygivenname> -rw------- 1 root root 744 2010-10-28 23:37 /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf
[22:49] <ZykoticK9> anygivenname, that's 600 all right
[22:49] <anygivenname> then sudo worked
[22:49] <archlich> anygivenname, thats fine then
[22:50] <archlich> anygivenname, i need to head out but check out this at some point https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Chmod#Octal_numbers
[22:50] <aut0tek> Anyone know why my ubuntu studio pc won't go past the logo screen at boot after a pwr failure? (i just bumped the button on accident)
[22:51] <plob> plob
[22:52] <Gskellig> is something wrong with mutter? gnome on my ubuntu netbook remix (10.10) is running really slow and crashes occassionally. normal ubuntu is fine
[22:52] <Thmstcls> aut0tek:  have you [ESC] and looked at the messages?
[22:53] <Thmstcls> aut0tek:  pres ESC (i think others keys work) and it will show the bootup process
[22:56] <aut0tek> Oh.. I hit esc... Says home directory /etc/timidity not ours
[22:57] <EeveeTrainer> hi where can i download the source and compile ubuntu
[22:58] <yaaar> hey guys. when i plug an external monitor into my laptop it always gets setup as an extension of the right side of my existing monitor. I can switch it to the left easily enough. but i'd like to make it go on the left by default, so I don't have to change it every time. is that possible?
[22:58] <travaler> is there a command that will transfer files over a network faster then SCP?
[22:58] <jacktheripper> how could I configure FUSE ?
[22:58] <jacktheripper> where's the config file located (if there's even one) ?
[22:59] <Sonic132> Anyone know how to install the Cricket A600 USB Modem in Kubuntu 10.04? I tried the whole flipflop.sh thing and while it outputted a lot of information. It didn't seem to add anything to Network Config. What am I doing wrong? Also, I only have one Cricket modem. So if I try this I have to d/c and r/c to post more.
[23:00] <yaaar> travaler: rcp doesn't have the encryption overhead. if you're doing multiple iterations rsync is way faster. i guess you could use dd over a socket or something for the ultimate light weight
[23:00] <travaler> yaaar is it likely that the encryption overhead is slowing me down when copying a folder?
[23:01] <Sonic132> If someone could just give me a link to a guide that works I'd appreciate it. I have some stuff to do in the yard. But later on I'll be able to work more on it.
[23:01] <ironsight> anyone with a laptop get headphone sound?
[23:01] <Thmstcls> aut0tek:  that's all it says..?
[23:01] <aut0tek> That's the end
[23:02] <aut0tek> Oh now it says skipping /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 at user request
[23:02] <travaler> yaaar, it seems to take a second per file for files between .5 megs and 1 meg large
[23:02] <port80web> I'm using 10.04. anyone know where the grub menu.lst is?
[23:02] <travaler> yaaar, I would like to maintain 10MB/s but it drops to KB/s for smaller files : (
[23:02] <Thmstcls> aut0tek:  you use encrypted home directory?
[23:02] <Sonic132> Isn't menu list always in the same place?
[23:03] <port80web> its not in /boot/grub/ where it allways was
[23:03] <Sir_Konrad> Ubuntu 10.04: How can I tell if I have the 32 or 64 bit version installed?
[23:03] <Thmstcls> Sonic132:  no
[23:03] <anygivenname> do i have to chmod 600 again the file after every editing or it is done just once ?
[23:03] <port80web> x64
[23:03] <Sonic132> Hmmm ok. I learned someothing yay.
[23:04] <Sir_Konrad> I know it's stupid, but I forgot which I installed. :P
[23:04] <Thmstcls> Sir_Konrad:  =P
[23:04] <Sonic132> I need to know that as well Sir_Konrad
[23:04] <Sonic132> I would think it was 32. But not sure.
[23:04] <Sir_Konrad> Sonic132: Most of the time if you don't know then it's 32 bit, but I have so much things going on I probably knew a few months ago! XD
[23:05] <Sonic132> Ah well goodluck.
[23:05] <Sir_Konrad> But this isn't my main box, it's one I use about twice a week. :\
[23:05] <EeveeTrainer> hi where can i download the source and compile ubuntu
[23:05] <Sonic132> Anyone want to help me find a guide for installing the Cricket A600 Cal-comp usb modem in 10.04 of Kubuntu?
[23:05] <Thmstcls> Sir_Konrad:  run 'arch' command?
[23:06] <mscotta> Sir_Konrad, "uname -a"
[23:06] <Sir_Konrad> Thmstcls: ok thanks. :)
[23:06] <velrac> Hello friends. I'm new here and just installed 10.10 on raid 1 HDs. How can I check if it's working correctly? The installation gave me no errors, but I want to be shure that it work's. Thanks!
[23:06] <Sir_Konrad> thanks too mscotta. :P
[23:07] <mscotta> Sir_Konrad, Thmstcls: 'arch' is the CPU architecture
[23:07] <Thmstcls> what did he want mscotta ?
[23:07] <Sonic132> i686 is 32 correct?
[23:07] <Sir_Konrad> that
[23:07] <Sir_Konrad> 's what I wanted
[23:07] <Sir_Konrad> Dang, it is 32-bit... >.<
[23:07] <Sir_Konrad> Sonic132: yeah..
[23:07] <mscotta> Sonic132: No, it's only the CPU arch.
[23:08] <velrac> Anyone?
[23:08] <Sonic132> Then that makes two of us.
[23:08] <Sir_Konrad> Sonic132: mine is i686 is a 32 bit proc. x86_64 is always 64-bit.
[23:08] <Thmstcls> Sir_Konrad:  mscotta++, you want the cpu arch or the OS?
[23:08] <tensorpudding> velrac: software RAID?
[23:09] <Sonic132> mscotta: Chances are they are the same right?
[23:09] <anygivenname> do i have to chmod 600 again the file after every editing or it is done just once ?
[23:09] <Thmstcls> Sir_Konrad:  try 'uname -a'
[23:09] <Sir_Konrad> Thmstcls: I wanted both, I got both. i686 on the OS is a 32-bit install right?
[23:09] <Thmstcls> Sir_Konrad:  or 'uname -mrsn
[23:09] <Thmstcls> '
[23:09] <Thmstcls> with no quotes
[23:09] <mscotta> Sonic132, yes but you can install 32 bit S.O. on a 64 bit arch.
[23:10] <Sir_Konrad> Thmstcls: right but an i686 software install is 32 bit.
[23:10] <Sir_Konrad> That means once upon a time I installed the wrong version. :P
[23:10] <Thmstcls> hehe, you wanted 64?
[23:10] <mscotta> Sir_Konrad: what is a i686 software?
[23:11] <aut0tek> X.has some error about no inputs or something?
[23:11] <Sir_Konrad> mscotta: 32 bit software. I wanted 64. :P
[23:11] <Sir_Konrad> Thmstcls: yeah. XD
[23:11] <Thmstcls> mscotta:  32 bit dual core
[23:11] <Nertil> its ubuntu 8.04 supported yet?
[23:11] <Sonic132> Well the versions agree for me. 32 on 32.
[23:12] <Sonic132> But anyone know how I can setup the Cricket USB modem so that I can connect to the internet?
[23:12] <Sir_Konrad> Yeah... anyone have experience with MacBook Pro 5,5 with 10.10?
[23:12] <mscotta> Sir_Konrad: the old PII is i686 but is not 64 bit
[23:12] <Nertil> its ubuntu 8.04 supported yet?
[23:12] <q_> CPU fan speed and CHASSIS fan speed are wrong with xsensor, also when read from BIOS, this means that mobo is dying?
[23:12] <Sir_Konrad> mscotta: You're not reading what I said... I installed i686 software on an x86_64 machine... :P
[23:13] <Sonic132> What are you asking Nertil?
[23:13] <Nertil> its ubuntu 8.04 supported yet?
[23:13] <Nertil> does exist support from ubuntu
[23:13] <siefny> irc.vaultnet.org
[23:13] <Thmstcls> Sir_Konrad:  i'm betting you have 32bit ubuntu installed
[23:13] <Sir_Konrad> Nertil: 8.04 is still supported.
[23:13] <Nertil> for this version
[23:13] <Nertil> till when?
[23:13] <Sonic132> 8.04 is old.
[23:13] <Sir_Konrad> Thmstcls: I do... I'm going to have to get 64-bit 10.04 or 10.10.
[23:13] <Sir_Konrad> Nertil: I think until April...
[23:13] <Nertil> ok
[23:14] <Thmstcls> Sir_Konrad:  what's the point?
[23:14] <Sir_Konrad> Nertil: I would upgrade to 10.04
[23:14] <Sonic132> Sir_Konrad: What's the point in keeping an old version old? Why not upgrade?
[23:14] <mscotta> Nertil: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[23:14] <Sir_Konrad> Thmstcls: This is it. I want to install Ubuntu on this MacBook that I'm typing on right now, and I knew I had one Ubuntu 10.04 CD around but I didn't know if it was 32 or 64.
[23:14] <Nertil> Sonic132 old machine
[23:15] <Sir_Konrad> Sonic132: LTS version.
[23:15] <Sonic132> 10.04 is LTS as well.
[23:15] <Sonic132> Why not use that?
[23:15] <Thmstcls> Sir_Konrad:  i get that part, just wondering why you feel the need to change to 64bit
[23:15] <yaaar> i just found a package (roundcube) that apparently has a dependency (php-mdb2-driver-mysql) that apt-get doesn't pull in. at least, it errored "couldn't connect to the database" with logs saying "MDB2 Error: not found (-4): unable to find package 'MDB2_Driver_mysql'" until i installed that package, and now it's fine. where should i report that?
[23:15] <Sir_Konrad> Thmstcls: I'm going to have to download a 64-bit version..
[23:15] <Sir_Konrad> Thmstcls: oh because this MacBook Pro has 4GB RAM.
[23:16] <Sir_Konrad> Sonic132: Are you talking about why I would consider getting 10.04 for this MacBook?
[23:16] <Sonic132> So anyone know how to install the Cricket Cal-comp A600 usb modem in Kubuntu 10.04? I tried the flipflop.sh thing and the lsusb doesn't show it installed. Also it doesn't show up under Network Config.
[23:17] <Nertil> hum
[23:17] <Nertil> till when will be supportet 10. 10
[23:17] <RastaHunden> Sonic132: No, but Calcomp rules a bit i think.
[23:18] <RastaHunden> Caltech
[23:18] <EeveeTrainer> hi where can i download the source and compile ubuntu
[23:18] <Flannel> Nertil: 10.10 is supported for 18 months, so it will be supported until April of 2012
[23:18] <Sir_Konrad> Sonic132: you're on dial-up?
[23:18] <Nertil> Flannel but hows come 10.04 will be supported till 2015
[23:18] <Sonic132> RastaHunden:Huh? Well according to the lable and what XP says. It's a Cal-Comp A600 Usb modem.
[23:18] <Flannel> Nertil: If you'd like something supported later than that, you should consider 10.04, which is supported on the desktop until April of 2013 (and the server until 2015)
[23:19] <Sonic132> Sir_Konrad: Cricket calls it broadband. But it's quite a bit slower than that.
[23:19] <Flannel> Nertil: Because 10.04 is an LTS release (Long Term Support)
[23:19] <Nertil> ok
[23:19] <RastaHunden> EeveeTrainer: Your question is invalid but www.linuxfromscratch.org will give you an ideea.
[23:19] <Sir_Konrad> Sonic132: oh you're hooking up via ethernet?
[23:19] <Sonic132> Sir_Konrad: No hooking up via usb.
[23:19] <Thmstcls> yucvk
[23:19] <Thmstcls> tuck
[23:19] <Sonic132> Sir_Konrad: It's a usb modem.
[23:19] <Thmstcls> wow...yuck
[23:19] <Sir_Konrad> ow...
[23:20] <Sir_Konrad> Wow, that's nasty.
[23:20] <RastaHunden> Bots are loose
[23:20] <Thmstcls> wow at the fact it took me 3 tries to type it
[23:20] <Thmstcls> Alice is loose
[23:20] <Sonic132> Alice in wonderland.
[23:20] <Sonic132> Any ideas on what to do about it?
[23:20] <RastaHunden> Inetlice :)
[23:21] <Thmstcls> what's the problem, Sonic132
[23:21] <mikrozero> there a linux video player that will play in a very minimal bordered window that can be set to always on top?
[23:21] <RastaHunden> Wakkaarimaseen!
[23:21] <Nertil> so when will be next LTS VERSION
[23:21] <mikrozero> see what i mean?
[23:21] <rww> Nertil: after 10.04? 12.04.
[23:21] <Nertil> ok
[23:21] <mikrozero> woops..i'm not in Kansas anymore
[23:21] <RastaHunden> Nertil: when it turns up! :)
[23:22] <Sonic132> Trying to figure out how to (1)Get the video to work in other modes than 'safe graphics mode' and also. (2)Figure out how to install the Cal-Comp A600 Cricket Usb modem...under Kubuntu 10.04
[23:22] <Daani> if I have a .bin file i folderA
[23:22] <Daani> how do I install it
[23:22] <solidsnack> I am trying to install 10.10 i386 on a Vaio P.
[23:22] <RastaHunden> mikrozero: welcome to the fjords Mike! ;)
[23:22] <Sir_Konrad> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-5/Maverick <-- Why is this so short? o.O
[23:23] <Thmstcls> everyone is poor Sir_Konrad
[23:23] <solidsnack> This machine has a GMA500 chipset so the USB device is marked "poulsbo".
[23:23] <Sarajevo> any girls in here for cam2cam?
[23:23] <Sir_Konrad> Thmstcls: LOL! What does that mean? :P
[23:23] <RastaHunden> Im rich as a mofo :)
[23:23] <Thmstcls> Sir_Konrad:  they don't spend the extra money for the Apple brand
[23:23] <Sarajevo> RastaHunden, do u code computer malware
[23:23] <solidsnack> Do I need to somehow get the PSB driver on to the system?
[23:24] <Daani> anyone?
[23:24] <Thmstcls> lol Sarajevo
[23:24] <Thmstcls> is that a serious question
[23:24] <Sarajevo> yes
[23:24] <RastaHunden> Sarajevo: Kheuk ?
[23:24] <Sarajevo> ?
[23:24] <Sarajevo> wat
[23:24] <Sir_Konrad> Thmstcls: hehe... The Mactel Team does. :D
[23:24] <RastaHunden> Go away
[23:24] <Daani> rastahunden haha vilken fråga :D
[23:24] <Sarajevo> why?
[23:24] <Thmstcls> the mactel team huh
[23:24] <RastaHunden> Daani: vilket miffo
[23:24] <Daani> sarajevo mismo nije illegal ovde
[23:24] <Sarajevo> oh
[23:24] <Sarajevo> ti kodiras viruscice
[23:24] <Sarajevo> spamas
[23:24] <Sarajevo> je li
[23:25] <Sir_Konrad> Thmstcls: yup. ;)
[23:25] <RastaHunden> Sarajevo: Do you wish to engage at this time Sir ?
[23:25] <blakkheim> !english
[23:25] <Sonic132> Thmstcls: Did you see my post?
[23:25] <Daani> Sarajevo not here!
[23:25] <Thmstcls> Sonic132:  just did now
[23:25] <Sonic132> Thmstcls: Cool.
[23:25] <Daani> I downloaded Eclipse it came as a tar file I extracted the files but the exutable file doesnt work :S
[23:25] <Daani> nothing happens
[23:25] <RastaHunden> I guess not
[23:26] <blakkheim> Daani: you probably need to compile it, programs on linux are usually distributed as source code
[23:26] <Daani> I can add that tonight is my first visit in ubuntu hehe
[23:26] <Sonic132> Daani: More than likely what blakkheim said.
[23:26] <Daani> compile it?  I've used it so much for Linux.
[23:27] <Daani> okey will google
[23:27] <rahduke> hey can someone help me please, i'm running 10.10 on an SSD with a zotac mobo in an HTPC. THis is the second time this has happened to me, install runs fine, first few boots were fine but now when I boot after my mobo splash screen I just get a blinking cursor in the top right corner and it never boots..... I'm so frustrated with this,  I've tested the memory, reset the bios, set the boot devices I'm completely lost....
[23:27] <Daani> but i read somewhere that I should use the terminal
[23:27] <Thmstcls> !language
[23:27] <blakkheim> !compile | Daani
[23:27] <RastaHunden> blakkheim: Step back please.
[23:28] <Sonic132> Daani: Read what ubottu said.
[23:28] <mscotta> Daani: you can start by installing it from the repo: 'sudo apt-get install eclipse'
[23:28] <Sonic132> Daani: Using the repos like mscotta said. Is usually the easiest way.
[23:28] <blakkheim> RastaHunden: what?
[23:28] <mscotta> Daani: start with little steps!
[23:28] <RastaHunden> Sonic132: repeating a bad sentence never made it any better.
[23:29] <Daani> okey thanks
[23:29] <Sonic132> RastaHunden: It was an informative, and correct sentence. So I don't know what your talking about.
[23:29] <Sir_Konrad> hehehe...
[23:29] <RastaHunden> blakkheim: By saying that you like those who wants to learn to not. This is not so good.
[23:29] <mscotta> RastaHunden, what do you mean?
[23:29] <RastaHunden> Sonic132 ^^
[23:29] <solidsnack> Hi, I need help installing Ubuntu 10.10 i386 on a Vaio P. It boots into the installer but then it can't find the CDROM.
[23:30] <blakkheim> RastaHunden: i don't know what you mean, your english is fairly broken there
[23:30] <RastaHunden> mscotta: Why do we have Ubuntu, because people have learnt.
[23:30] <solidsnack> Do you think my problem might have to do with the GMA500 chipset on the machine?
[23:30]  * Sir_Konrad munches on some popcorn
[23:30] <RastaHunden> blakkheim: My english is fine.
[23:30] <mscotta> RastaHunden: I'm with you!
[23:30] <rahduke> come on please someone take a look at my issue
[23:30] <Dice-Man> rahduke, explain it
[23:30] <Sonic132> RastaHunden: This is ubuntu irc chat. It's an informative, encouraging environment where people learn to use the OS in every situation imaginable. I didn't see blackheim encouraging Daani to fail.
[23:30] <Dice-Man> i'll see
[23:30] <blakkheim> RastaHunden: "By saying that you like those who wants to learn to not" ?
[23:31] <RastaHunden> mscotta: Thank you! Upstream approves of your ACK.
[23:31] <area51pilot> does anyone know of an Evolution IRC channel
[23:31] <Gskellig> is there a way to get ubuntu netbook remix 10.10 WITHOUT mutter?
[23:31] <Sonic132> blackheim: I speak english just fine I do!
[23:31] <Gskellig> mutter is REALLY slow and laggy
[23:31] <Sir_Konrad> #evolution?
[23:31] <RastaHunden> Sonic132: Informative, not strangling of intellectual knowhow i hope ?
[23:31] <xangua> area51pilot: surely there is on gnome's irc network
[23:31] <RastaHunden> blakkheim: Im Upstream.
[23:32] <Sonic132> RastaHunden: I just suggested that he use Google. Then agreed with those that put out the mental effort to fill him in so he didn't have to use Google.
[23:32] <Sonic132> RastaHunden: That's not strangling of intellectual knowhow.
[23:32] <rahduke> hey can someone help me please, i'm running 10.10 on an SSD with a zotac mobo in an HTPC. THis is the second time this has happened to me, install runs fine, first few boots were fine but now when I boot after my mobo splash screen I just get a blinking cursor in the top right corner and it never boots..... I'm so frustrated with this,  I've tested the memory, reset the bios, set the boot devices I'm completely lost....
[23:33] <Sir_Konrad> rahduke: sounds like a driver issue...
[23:33] <EeveeTrainer> hi where can i download the source and compile ubuntu
[23:33] <RastaHunden> I accept your correctures at this time.
[23:33] <Sir_Konrad> rahduke: did you install a graphics card driver?
[23:33] <Thmstcls> EeveeTrainer:  you can't, it's not how it works
[23:33] <EeveeTrainer> !de | Steven_Krebs
[23:33] <rww> RastaHunden, blakkheim: Please take it to PM or #ubuntu-offtopic or something. It's offtopic for this channel.
[23:33] <EeveeTrainer> Thmstcls: why not ?
[23:33] <Steven_Krebs> wtf
[23:34] <Thmstcls> EeveeTrainer:  ubuntu is not source code for one
[23:34] <Steven_Krebs> what do I care if someone does not speak english?
[23:34] <EeveeTrainer> ubuntu doesnt have a source code ?
[23:34] <rww> EeveeTrainer: Best to wait until someone actually speaks in German before issuing that.
[23:34] <RastaHunden> rww: You may private me if you feel strongly about the conversation ?
[23:34] <Thmstcls> EeveeTrainer:  no, it's a collection of other sources that have already been compiled
[23:34] <xangua> yo don't EeveeTrainer, ubuntu uses open source software; you can compile that
[23:34] <Sonic132> EeveeTrainer: I don't think so. But a Google search could help clear up the mystery.
[23:35] <rww> ubottu: source | EeveeTrainer
[23:35] <Thmstcls> EeveeTrainer:  you can compile and upgrade the kernel
[23:35] <Gskellig> is there a way to get ubuntu netbook remix 10.10 WITHOUT mutter?
[23:35] <Sonic132> Also, I guess I'll go do my yard work. I'll be back later. Maybe someone can help me then.
[23:35] <rahduke> Sir_Konrad: just enabled the default hardware drivers...... but if it were a driver issue wouldnt i be able to get to the command line??
[23:36] <kn100> Is there a way of recording video without compressing it on ubuntu?
[23:36] <kn100> like Fraps on windows
[23:36] <kn100> recordmydesktop has horrible audio-sync issues when recording games
[23:36] <Sir_Konrad> rahduke: true... are you getting to the GRUB boot loader?
[23:36] <Sir_Konrad> kn100!! What's up pal?  Code any ASSM/C/C++/GTK+/PHP/etc ?
[23:37] <rahduke> its so effing frustrating
[23:37] <Sir_Konrad> kn100: how are ya? It's been awhile. :P
[23:37] <kn100> Is there a way of recording the screen without compressing it on ubuntu?
[23:37] <kn100> Sir_Konrad, It's been good, and yourself?
[23:37] <Sir_Konrad> !language | rahduke
[23:37] <RastaHunden> rahduke: whats that about ?
[23:37] <rww> Gskellig: no, mutter is a required component of Unity, you can't have Unity without mutter.
[23:37] <rww> RastaHunden: that's also offtopic for this channel.
[23:37] <Sir_Konrad> kn100: Pretty nice. Getting back into Linux after a year. :P
[23:37] <Thmstcls> test34:  nothing?
[23:37] <Steven_Krebs> rww soon to be not true any more. new unity will use compit instead of mutter.
[23:37] <rahduke> im bugging out over here, im sick and tired of re-installing ubuntu every day....im seriously about to break stuff
[23:38] <Steven_Krebs> compiz
[23:38] <rww> Steven_Krebs: I'm talking about 10.10's Unity.
[23:38] <Gskellig> can I get it without unity then?
[23:38] <Steven_Krebs> that's why I said _soon not to be true anymore_
[23:38] <RastaHunden> rww: Ok, fun that you have joined i think. Anyhow, feel the breeze.
[23:38] <Sonic132> rahduke: Been there. Took a vacation from Ubuntu, and came back. I think secretly I like the troubleshooting.
[23:38] <isnoop> I think I found a bug in an updated version of an apt package.  How do I downgrade a package to verify my test?
[23:38] <rww> Gskellig: Ubuntu Netbook is just Ubuntu Desktop with the Unity interface, pretty much. Just get Ubuntu Desktop if you don't want Unity.
[23:39] <rahduke> Sonic132: this problem is ridiculous, its like unfixable
[23:39] <Benkinooby> i cant find any performace benchmarks of ubuntu 10.10 against 10.04. some1 can give me a link or at least tell me your experience?
[23:39] <Gskellig> can I get 10.10, with the same gui that 10.04 had
[23:39] <Gskellig> ?
[23:39] <RastaHunden> Gskellig: No! :)
[23:39] <Benkinooby> Gskellig, yes, of course
[23:39] <rww> Gskellig: no, the 10.04 netbook GUI isn't available on maverick, and isn't maintained any more
[23:39] <Sir_Konrad> Gskellig: yes, just download Ubuntu 10.10
[23:39] <mscotta> Benkinooby: habe you search in Phoronix website?
[23:40] <Sir_Konrad> They're both GNOME.
[23:40] <Sonic132> rahduke: Just curious but are you dual/multi-booting?
[23:40] <no--name> It's the same GUI
[23:40] <test34> Thmstcls, dont they have code to compile, group and tie all those packages together?
[23:40] <Benkinooby> Gskellig, oh, sorry forget my comment
[23:40] <rww> no--name: between 10.04 and 10.10? no, it isn't.
[23:40] <rahduke> Sonic132: nope, its just 10.10 on an SSD
[23:40] <Thmstcls> test34:  of course, but he can't compile 'ubuntu'
[23:40] <no--name> Yeah it is... Gnome.
[23:40] <test34> Thmstcls, that's what I would think Ubuntu is
[23:40] <rahduke> it makes no sense, i cant even get into the grub menu to boot into recovery mode
[23:40] <Thmstcls> ubuntu is pre-compiled binaries there is nothing to compile
[23:40] <Sonic132> rahduke: Don't know what to tell you. I got problems too. Just keep trying back on here and maybe someone can help you.
[23:40] <mscotta> Benkinooby: habe you search in Phoronix website?
[23:40] <RastaHunden> Gskellig: Odd people camping here though i must say :) ... Im surprised every time to say the least :)
[23:41] <Sir_Konrad> rahduke: attempt a reinstall
[23:41] <Sonic132> rahduke: Reinstall grub maybe?
[23:41] <rahduke> Sonic132: its un helpable, im convinced this is not a fixable issue
[23:41] <Sir_Konrad> That's all I can say.
[23:41] <RastaHunden> Gskellig: To be fair, most rocks
[23:41] <Benkinooby> mscotta, never heard of that. thx for the hint... i'll give it a shot
[23:41] <test34> Thmstcls, what is gcalctool? a calculator no source to compile? but the source is available
[23:41] <rahduke> Sir_Konrad: I've installed 3x already same issues over and over
[23:41] <Daani> sudo apt-get install eclipse that installed java edition :/ how can I control it to install the c/c++ edition
[23:41] <Sir_Konrad> rahduke: something wrong with your RAID array?
[23:41] <Sonic132> Sir_Konrad: Well he said that reinstalling works temporarily but then after a few boots it's hosed again.
[23:41] <Gskellig> wow
[23:41] <Gskellig> i got like 80 different answers
[23:41] <Thmstcls> test34:  i don't think you are taking in what i'm saying. of course there are sources for packages, he asked how to compile ubuntu and kernel
[23:41] <Thmstcls> test34:  which is not possible
[23:42] <rahduke> Sir_Konrad: I have no raid array, its just a little HTPC i slapped together, it was working great for 8months on 10.04
[23:42] <xiamx> Hi, i wonder if there a software that does document management just like fspot does for photo and banshee does for music
[23:42] <RastaHunden> Gskellig: You asked 1482 peoples :)
[23:42] <Gskellig> thats true!
[23:42] <Sir_Konrad> rahduke: hmm...
[23:42] <Gskellig> i litereally got Yes, no, yes, no
[23:42] <test34> Thmstcls, so the source code to create the compilation of packages that is Ubuntu is not available?
[23:43] <Thmstcls> test34:  i guess if you want to get a list of all packages and download them and compile them then compile the kernel
[23:43] <Thmstcls> lol
[23:43] <Thmstcls> that's pretty retarded idea imo though
[23:43] <RastaHunden> Gskellig: No, progress means changes: "<Gskellig> can I get 10.10, with the same gui that 10.04 had"
[23:43] <rahduke> Sir_Konrad: i cant get into grub, I cant do anything ive reset the bios like 20 time, all i get is a horizontal blinking cursor and a flickering screen
[23:43] <test34> Thmstcls, it is not retarded if you want to create your own distribution based off Ubuntu
[23:43] <Gskellig> i mean from other people answering
[23:44] <test34> Thmstcls, I would think it's smart
[23:44] <Thmstcls> so just leave the packages all non 686 optimized?
[23:44] <area51pilot> test34: I agree, creating a personalized distro would be nice so packages dont have to be added after the install
[23:44] <Thmstcls> if you have the hardware
[23:44] <shadyabhi> rahduke: does you comp have a connected USB pendrive or otyher bootable device
[23:44] <rww> Gskellig: The package 'netbook-launcher' is what provided 10.04's UNR interface. You'll note that it's not in Maverick. Therefore, I'm correct.
[23:45] <Thmstcls> it would take a very long time to compile hundreds to thousands of packages by the way
[23:45] <rww> Gskellig: alternatively, click the first arrow on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netbook-launcher/+publishinghistory and note the "Deleted: superseded by unity, not maintained any more"
[23:45] <Gskellig> i was asking if it was possible to get netbook-launcher in 10.10
[23:45] <rahduke> shadyabhi: no it didnt, now i put a live USB in to see if I can get into my logs
[23:45] <Gskellig> even if its not supported
[23:45] <rww> Gskellig: it's not, it was removed from the archive.
[23:45] <Gskellig> ah okay
[23:45] <area51pilot> Thmstcls: :)
[23:45] <RastaHunden> Gskellig: Well, its possible, but not very likely as it would take much much work. The others where wrong.
[23:45] <Gskellig> guess i'll just use 10.04 then
[23:45] <Thmstcls> :) ?
[23:45] <rahduke> im seriously so frustrated
[23:45] <test34> yes area51pilot
[23:45] <RastaHunden> Gskellig: In a sence, but not entirely
[23:45] <ilyekkakai> Look at this gparted screen-shot - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v484/ILyekkaKai/Screenshot--dev-sdb-GParted.png  - I want to extend my extended partition /dev/sdb2 into the unallocated space at start of the drive, allowing me to extend /dev/sdb5 to fill up the resized extended partition. But when I prepare the changes in gparted live CD, it warns me I may not be able to boot my computer after changes are applied.
[23:45] <mscotta> test34: I don't know for Ubuntu, but Debian is here: http://git.debian.org/
[23:45] <shadyabhi> rahduke: I dont think there will be logs.. bcos u said grub didnt compe up
[23:45] <ilyekkakai> Should I ignore the warning and continue, and how difficult will it be to fix if I can't boot?
[23:46] <Thmstcls> mscotta:  wouldn't that be pretty unstable?
[23:46] <xangua> ilyekkakai: you should always make a security copy before do something, yes
[23:46] <area51pilot> Thmstcls: about the time for compiling, but it wouldbe a nice deal to remaster
[23:46] <rahduke> shadyabhi: ya that makes sense, do you have any ideas at all? I've tested my memory, ive reset my bios, ive done everything i can think of
[23:46] <rww> ilyekkakai: you can't boot from an extended partition. that partitioning screenshot isn't going to be bootable.
[23:46] <mscotta> Thmstcls: why?
[23:46] <ilyekkakai> xangua - how do I do that?
[23:47] <rww> ilyekkakai: the "fix" is to have at least one primary partition you can boot from.
[23:47] <test34> Thmstcls, you could rent some CPU time and do it in a few minutes
[23:47] <shadyabhi> rahduke: Can you boot through USB?
[23:47] <Thmstcls> lol test34, touche i guess
[23:47] <ilyekkakai> rww, well, no one told the computer, since it boots quite happily from that configuration.
[23:47] <solidsnack> My "cdrom" is found when I use 10.04 LTS. Weird.
[23:47] <rww> ilyekkakai: odd.
[23:47] <Thmstcls> mscotta:  does the git for debian use non-stable versions?
[23:48] <xangua> Thmstcls: /j #debian
[23:48] <RastaHunden> Gskellig: As for now the followings are not following common practices: [Sonic132, blakkheim, rww]
[23:48] <Thmstcls> lol xangua, i have no desire to ask a question like that
[23:48] <Thmstcls> in debian
[23:48] <EeveeTrainer> hi how do i uninstall ubuntu?
[23:48] <mscotta> Thmstcls: did you know how it works git?
[23:49] <rahduke> shadyabhi: yea im running a live 10.10 usb stick right now
[23:49] <test34>  EeveeTrainer: see mscotta's answer
[23:49] <xangua> EeveeTrainer: you format ubuntu's partition
[23:49] <Thmstcls> mscotta:  lol yes i use it regularly with projects
[23:49] <RastaHunden> Thmstcls: Do not be afraid my friend.
[23:49] <rahduke> shadyabhi: it recognizes my filesystem, all the files look fine.... I have no idea what is going on
[23:49] <Benkinooby> mscotta, wow, that website is great!
[23:49] <FrozenFire> Anyone know how I might use dbus-send to send a message via MSN using Telepathy?
[23:49] <shadyabhi> rahduke: Just reinstall the grub anyway. It wont hurt to reinstall the grub.
[23:49] <Thmstcls> RastaHunden:  why would i be? this is ubuntu =D
[23:49] <RastaHunden> Thmstcls: To ask
[23:50] <mscotta> Thmstcls: well the linux kernel use git but there is different branch
[23:50] <Thmstcls> mscotta:  so...the original question was still invalid like i told him anyways
[23:50] <_16BitSoft_> ugg, Ubuntu 11.04 will not have Gnome?
[23:50] <RastaHunden> Thmstcls: git got git checkout and whatnot :)
[23:50] <rahduke> shadyabhi: how would i do that from alivecd?
[23:50] <mscotta> Thmstcls: excuse me, can you repeat?
[23:50] <Thmstcls> short of downloading every package's source and compiling, then compiling the linux kernel
[23:50] <Thmstcls> you can't 'compile ubuntu'
[23:51] <rocco99> hi
[23:51] <Thmstcls> and it would still be pointless
[23:51] <mscotta> Benkinooby: I'm glad for you
[23:51] <Sir_Konrad> _16BitSoft_: it won't?
[23:51] <Thmstcls> some guy asked if you can 'compile the linux kernel and ubuntu from source'
[23:51] <_16BitSoft_> Sir_Konrad - not by default
[23:51] <RastaHunden> Thmstcls: Learning is never pointless.
[23:51] <rww> ubottu: unity | _16BitSoft_
[23:51] <Sir_Konrad> _16BitSoft_: what will it use?
[23:51] <shadyabhi> RastaHunden: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[23:51] <Thmstcls> RastaHunden:  lol, i school enough and work enough to be constantly learning
[23:51] <mobasher> have anyone been able to run sims 3 on ubuntu 10.10 ?
[23:51] <_16BitSoft_> Sir_Konrad "Unity"
[23:52] <Reno__> Can anyone reccomend a good music manager/player.   It's GNOME.
[23:52] <Sir_Konrad> Reno__: Banshee
[23:52] <mscotta> Reno__: have you tried rhytmbox?
[23:52] <shadyabhi> RastaHunden: Sorry to bug you.. posted you by mistake
[23:53] <Benkinooby> Gskellig, hm, maybe if the gui is still in the repos of 10.04 you can fetch the source and compile it. but that's a lot of work, and as mentioned before: it's not supported. if you want a netbookgui-like interface (this is what i understood) you could also give kde a shot. kde is much more flexible that gnome can be modfied very easily.
[23:53] <RastaHunden> Thmstcls: I have no need for that.
[23:53] <RastaHunden> shadyabhi: Np
[23:53] <_16BitSoft_> I like Gnome
[23:53] <_16BitSoft_> KDE is terrible
[23:53] <RastaHunden> Thmstcls: Be open to most anything and the world will come to you.
[23:53] <Benkinooby> i sue fluxbox :P
[23:53] <Benkinooby> sue=use
[23:53] <Reno__> Banshee/rhythmbox I'll check em out
[23:53] <Sir_Konrad> _16BitSoft_: is KDE terrible even in 10.04?
[23:53] <Benkinooby> and tmux hahahaha
[23:54] <_16BitSoft_> I don't like KDE menus
[23:54] <Gskellig> benkinooby: all I really want is ubuntu that takes up almost no screen space for my netbook. i tried to customize normal ubuntu but it was too hard and I some stuff was still huge
[23:54] <rahduke> shadyabhi: that does explain how to install it from a LIVEcd to an existing install
[23:54] <kn100> kde is terrible*
[23:54] <RastaHunden> Thmstcls: If you find idiots along the way, let us know ;)
[23:54] <kn100> Gskellig, tried netbook remix?
[23:54] <Sir_Konrad> kn100: what are you using now? GNOME or Xfce?
[23:54] <Thmstcls> RastaHunden:  you are a bad troll...
[23:54] <Benkinooby> _16BitSoft_, it depends very much.i like kde more than gnome, but i love fluxbox.
[23:54] <shadyabhi> rahduke: ya. so thats what you want
[23:54] <rww> RastaHunden: Can you keep your offtopic comments to yourself, please?
[23:54] <kn100> Sir_Konrad, right now, Gnome but generally openbox
[23:54] <Gskellig> kn100, thats my problem lol... UNR 10.10 uses unity which is super slow and laggy
[23:55] <mscotta> Daani: have you tried?
[23:55] <rww> Gskellig: then use 10.04 for now, and check out 11.04 when it comes out (with Unity based on Compiz instead)
[23:55] <Gskellig> is KDE easy to customize to make it small ?
[23:55] <Sir_Konrad> KDE 3.5 was good.
[23:55] <Sir_Konrad> Gskellig: not anymore
[23:55] <Gskellig> unity based compiz?
[23:55] <rocco99> does anyone know whya ubuntu 10.10 dosent work with gorm or project center?
[23:55] <Gskellig> sweet!
[23:55] <Thmstcls> compiz based unity?
[23:55] <Thmstcls> =P
[23:55] <rww> Thmstcls: in 11.04, yes.
[23:55] <_16BitSoft_> I find Gnome to be most flexible
[23:55] <RastaHunden> rww - Thmstcls: Oh well. Have fun the one of you.
[23:55] <Thmstcls> lol no, i was just correcting the order
[23:55] <rww> ah
[23:55] <Thmstcls> =P
[23:56] <Benkinooby> Gskellig, hm, so there are 2 options you can try: first use kde, it is a big desktop environment like gnome but is very customizable. i used it for a long time and loved it. second is you use a smaller gui like fluxbox, xfce or stuff like that and modify them if needed. second option also needs less resources.
[23:56] <Sir_Konrad> kn100: I think I know what GUI I'll use on Ubuntu. :P
[23:57] <Thmstcls> gnome isn't too heavy on resources
[23:57] <Thmstcls> depending on what you add
[23:57] <RastaHunden> GNOME - The best Desktop ever made!
[23:57] <kn100> Sir_Konrad, I generally use openbox for almost everything but when i'm in a 'I just want my computer to work' mood I use Gnome even though it's slow in comparison
[23:57] <Benkinooby> Thmstcls, ths also apllies to kde ;)
[23:57] <RastaHunden> naah
[23:57] <Thmstcls> Benkinooby:  i assumed it was pretty comparable =P just not a fan
[23:57] <Sir_Konrad> kn100: openbox isn't for the weak?
[23:57] <Thmstcls> so have to leave KDE out of it =P
[23:58] <Thmstcls> Openbox isn't too hard
[23:58] <Benkinooby> fluxbox neither
[23:58] <Thmstcls> openbox + tint2 or something
[23:58] <_16BitSoft_> RastaHunden - YES! - Gnome is greatest
[23:58] <Thmstcls> yeah i was a fluxbox to openbox convert ;)
[23:58] <xangua> !ot
[23:58] <Sir_Konrad> I would use KDE, but KDE 4 left a bad taste in my mouth.
[23:58] <RastaHunden> The KDe people always seemed so hostile. I started coding GK and then GTK,+ ... Utmost great!
[23:58] <_16BitSoft_> oh no! ubuttu is angry, sorry
[23:59] <Thmstcls> sorry, didn't notice any open issues / questiosn
[23:59] <Benkinooby> Gskellig, hm, maybe an other possible solution is to stzay with gnome, and make good use of gnome-do or kupfer or any software like that
[23:59] <Benkinooby> !ubuttu
[23:59] <rww> Thmstcls: It doesn't matter. If it's offtopic, use the offtopic channel ;)
[23:59] <Thmstcls> Gskellig:  what do you want to do?


[09:51] <Unit193> mapreri: FWIW, you trimmed a bit much in your bug report, but http://paste.openstack.org/show/rgkrjOMvl7Kqwa6mPfPg should fix it.
[09:56] <mapreri> Unit193: send the patch to the bug? :)  I am not the maintainer, just the sponsor :)
[09:56] <Unit193> I know, but you seemed somewhat interested.  Mainly noting about the trimmed log since it's such an easy fix.
[09:57] <mapreri> I definitely am interested in that package, but I don't really want to end up maintaining it
[09:57] <mapreri> besides, I have no commit access to the git repo
[09:58] <Unit193> Oh I quite understand that!
[09:59] <mapreri> if you so much glanced at the rest of the package outside of debian/ you must have see how complicated is that (for nothing, probably, it's really huge considering it's only a chatting program...)
[10:00] <Unit193> Well, 'gyp', the d/patches it has, and the fact upstream bundles patches and Qt is enough for me to back right on out of there.
[10:01] <mapreri> There you go :)