[00:02] <claydoh> ScottK: it's done already iirc, url changed iirc
[00:03] <claydoh> iirc
[00:03] <ScottK> claydoh: Thanks.
[00:03] <ScottK> ryanakca: It'd be nice to have a link to that somewhere findable.
[00:04]  * claydoh just can't remember the url, and don't have rss feedss set up here
[00:04] <Quintasan> Hmm, what would you do if you started reciving offending text messages from unknown number?
[00:05] <ScottK> Generally just ignore them.  The number it says it's from is spoofable.
[00:06] <ScottK> SMS spam is the next great frontier and phone companies aren't generally very well equipped to deal with complaints.
[00:06] <Quintasan> seawolf: not that easy in Poland
[00:06] <Quintasan> arght
[00:06] <Quintasan> ScottK: ^^
[00:06] <Quintasan> Cause, few services support polish providers
[00:07] <Quintasan> Well
[00:07] <Quintasan> I'll let it slide for now
[00:07] <ScottK> Quintasan: No, you misunderstand.  The protocol that says where the message is coming from is not, I don't think, secure.
[00:07] <ScottK> Not quite the same things, but, for example, caller ID is trivially spoofable.
[00:08] <Quintasan> ScottK: I wonder how hard is it to spoof that.
[00:08] <ScottK> I think not very, but for SMS, I'm not 100 percent sure.
[00:08] <Quintasan> bah, caller ID, I used it to do pranks long time ago
[00:08] <Quintasan> hmm
[00:08] <Quintasan> time for research
[00:35] <Riddell> maverick packages uploadeding to ninjas
[00:36] <maco> uploaded or uploading?
[00:36] <maco> Riddell: ^
[00:41] <Riddell> uploadeding
[00:45] <ScottK> uploaderedinger.
[08:46] <Quintasan> \o
[08:48] <Trouble> o/
[08:59] <Quintasan> omfg
[08:59] <Quintasan> Qt port for Android
[08:59] <Quintasan> Plasma on my Milestone?
[09:17] <jussi> Quintasan: if you get quassel working on milestone, you will have me so greatful... (I would actually pay a decent amount of money for that)
[09:19]  * jussi hopes one day someone will get it working - I couldnt even get Qt to compile for android, never mind quassel
[09:22] <Quintasan> Oh well
[09:22] <Quintasan> I'll try
[09:46] <Mamarok> I am not capable to add a printer to my system (KDE 4.4.92): http://myriam.kollide.net/printer_problem.png
[09:54] <Mamarok> tried removing, reinstalling, no way to add a printer
[09:57] <alvin> Mamarok: There were problems in the past with that module too (bug 348704). I use lpadmin to add printers, but keep bug 482547 in mind and create a /usr/share/cups/model symlink to /usr/share/ppd first.
[09:57] <jussi> Mamarok: yeah, Ive always just used localhost:631
[09:58] <jussi> Mamarok: but to confirm, I also have the same issue
[10:07] <KRF> i wonder if that is ever gonna be fixed
[10:13] <sheytan> Hey gys
[10:13] <sheytan> guys\
[10:13] <sheytan> i'm looking for a nice quality photo of the new kubuntu cd
[10:13] <sheytan> or the case
[10:13] <sheytan> anyone?
[10:24] <Riddell> Mamarok: what version of KDE?
[10:28] <Mamarok> 4.4.92
[10:28] <jussi> Riddell: I have same thing here on lucid with 4.5rc2
[10:28] <Riddell> Mamarok: it's fixed in final
[10:29] <Mamarok> I am configuring through cups now
[10:29] <Mamarok> but nice to hear it's fixed :)
[10:29] <jussi> yay
[10:30] <jussi> btw, is rc3 in a ppa yet?
[10:30] <Riddell> no, we're doing final now
[10:32] <jussi> ahh, ok, great!
[10:34] <alvin> I'm really glad to hear the release was delayed.
[10:35] <jussi> alvin: ?
[10:36] <alvin> jussi: Being able to delay a release with good reason shows good management. I was losing faith (not in Kubuntu) in too many products that wanted to release then and there, but were full of critical bugs.
[11:14] <markey> anyone know how to enable bash completion for git? I remember this used to work
[11:15]  * Riddell has never used git
[11:16] <Tm_T> markey: hu, doesn't work? let me try what's here...
[11:17] <Tm_T> markey: works here, you have autocompletion enabled in your bashrc?
[11:18] <markey> ah, nope
[11:18] <markey> that's probably it :)
[11:19] <Tm_T> (:)
[11:19] <Riddell> debfx: am pbuilder kdeutils fix now
[11:23] <Tm_T> Assembly is about to begin, first seminars in less than 4 hours: http://assemblytv.net/schedules
[11:28] <Tm_T> apachelogger: you about?
[12:10] <apachelogger> Tm_T: hai
[12:13] <Tm_T> apachelogger: see this aragon in -ops, his hostname, nice or not?
[12:14] <Tm_T> what I understood, rather not
[12:17] <nigelb> markey: if you installed it from repos, you should have completion
[12:19] <Tm_T> nigelb: not if he hasn't turned autocompletion on in bashrc
[12:19] <Tm_T> IIRC it's not on by default
[12:24] <markey> works now :)
[12:27] <markey> Tm_T: you're at Assembly?
[12:27] <nigelb> Tm_T: oh, it was on for me.  strange
[12:27] <Tm_T> markey: should be, but couldn't make it, just like with any event in last year or two
[12:27] <markey> ah
[12:29] <markey> "Interview with John Buckman", that's the Magnatune boss :)
[12:29] <markey> (from Assembly TV schedule)
[12:29] <Tm_T> ye
[12:43] <yofel> JontheEchidna: kde bug 246799
[12:44] <yofel> actually I'm a bit confused since it says '#6  0x00007f6ef7c84eb4 in pkgRecords::Lookup(pkgCache::VerFileIterator const&) () from /usr/lib/libapt-pkg.so.4.10' and I don't have a libapt-pkg.so.4.10 here
[12:45] <yofel> *headdesk*
[12:45] <yofel> the heat is getting to me..
[12:45] <yofel> of course I have
[13:00] <rgreening> ScottK: ubs-creator-kde only works with Ubuntu (and likely Debian) based distros. At least it's only verified/guaranteed to work with Ubuntu at the moment. Though, there is work underway via GSOC to allow booting via ISO directly off the usb. This could mean ANY distro would work in the future.
[13:00] <apachelogger> Tm_T: well a bit of the sexual nature
[13:00] <rgreening> Tm_T: see my comment above
[14:17] <Tm_T> rgreening: so I should be able to make bootable PPC usb in x86 Ubuntu?
[14:18] <rgreening> possibly
[14:23] <Tm_T> ok, will try it then, thanks
[14:30] <ScottK> Tm_T: New ISO that's not oversize.
[14:31] <ScottK> It would still be interesting to know if the USB thing works.
[14:33] <ScottK> Tm_T: You may be affected by bug 613574, so watch out.
[14:35] <ryanakca> Hmmm... Are there any packages that *don't* depend on debhelper? Or can I safely add (permanently) it to my build environment and save on downloading/installing it every time?
[14:36] <Riddell> "hello" still doesn't use it
[14:36] <ScottK> ryanakca: There are a few, but you're probably not very likely to touch them.
[14:37] <ryanakca> Thanks
[14:44] <\sh> ScottK: I totally agree with you not to include this ubuntu-tweak tool
[14:45] <ScottK> \sh: Please say so and better yet, review some of the code and find more reasons.
[14:46] <\sh> ScottK: I just took the source from revu and checked...(wondering if this is the latest code)...well, actually it's a total copy of tools we already have on a gnome desktop
[14:46] <JontheEchidna> yofel: would you be able to try a patch against libqapt? http://pastebin.com/0nDW4xT9
[14:46] <Riddell> yes, it's still in new, I still need to make a decision
[14:46] <ScottK> \sh: Please write a thorough message.
[14:47] <ScottK> Riddell: I think the fact that it adds untrusted repositories is enough to reject it, but there are no doubt piles of other reasons.  Envy got in, but was required to drop adding a PPA or be removed before release.
[14:47] <\sh> ScottK: I already have...I won't write a real code review, because it's a total mess of collections of python code...regarding python-apt, dbus, etc.pp.
[14:48] <ScottK> \sh: Certainly.  What I'd really like is something like the review mjg59 did of automatix, but I haven't the time.
[14:49] <ghostcube> apachelogger: http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/fluffy/ wth?
[14:49] <ghostcube> :D
[14:50] <\sh> ScottK: any clue about policykit? if so, please have a look at data/com.ubuntu-tweak.daemon.policy.in (Idon't have clue about that)
[14:50] <Riddell> ScottK: required by whom?
[14:50] <ScottK> I don't, but JontheEchidna knows about policykit.  Maybe he'll look.
[14:50] <ScottK> Riddell: There was a critical bug filed against it.
[14:51] <JontheEchidna> could somebody pastebinit the policy file?
[14:53] <Riddell> \sh: ^^
[14:54] <ScottK> Riddell: I can't seem to find it, but fundamentally in archive packages should not add third party repositories (one of the ones it adds is mediabuntu, btw).
[14:54] <ScottK> It fundamentally breaks the security model.
[14:55] <Riddell> unless your app name is ubiquity presumably
[14:57] <ScottK> Right, but it only uses stuff from withing the security boundary of the distro.
[14:58] <ScottK> If a package added sources.list from Lucid, downloaded source, and built it for Maverick, it'd be odd, but not a security concern.
[14:59] <Riddell> my reference was to ubiquity downloading legally questionable stuff from medibuntu which is about to happen
[15:00] <ScottK> Well I don't think it should do that.
[15:00] <ScottK> Is this in a spec somewhere?
[15:02] <debfx> JontheEchidna: I have a few patches for muon: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/muon/
[15:02] <debfx> JontheEchidna: also I noticed that muon silently fails when another package manager is holding the lock
[15:03] <JontheEchidna> neat, I'll take a look at them in a bit :)
[15:03] <Riddell> ScottK: I've no idea
[15:06]  * Riddell uploads new 4.5 tars to ninjas
[15:06] <Riddell> for lucid
[15:07] <fldc> shouldn't the kdesudo patch be removed for kdm in 4.5? seem to work fine without it.
[15:07] <fldc> :D
[15:07] <JontheEchidna> \sh, ScottK: it does have an OR dependency on a nonexistant package (policykit-1-qt)
[15:07] <JontheEchidna> fldc: yes, the root bit should be removed from kdm's .desktop file
[15:08] <Riddell> fldc: which patch is that?
[15:09] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: a patch doesn't need to be dropped, but one added to remove the "I need root" bit from kdm's kcm's .desktop file
[15:10] <fldc> JontheEchidna: ah, so that's how it works :)
[15:10] <Riddell> oh I see
[15:10] <JontheEchidna> well, we do have a patch
[15:10] <JontheEchidna> but that's to launch all kdm
[15:10] <JontheEchidna> *kcm's
[15:10] <JontheEchidna> that advertise that they need root
[15:12] <ScottK> Tm_T: Please let us know if you get a chance to try the powerpc image so we can get it 'released' if it works.
[15:20] <jussi> hrm, on maverick, getting this after every apt command: Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1
[15:20] <Quintasan> \o/
[15:21] <Riddell> jussi: bug 613412 ?
[15:22] <jussi> ahh, that looks like it
[15:22] <Riddell> needs dantii to fix probably
[15:22] <jussi> ok, excellent. Glad we are on top of it
[15:22] <jussi> oh and btw...
[15:22] <jussi> I HAS INTERNETS!!!
[15:23] <Riddell> yay!
[15:23] <Riddell> civilisation has reached your new hoose
[15:23] <jussi> they came out and fixed it today
[15:23] <jussi> aparently thunder had gotten to it...
[15:24] <CIA-98> [muon] jmthomas * 1159506 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (FilterWidget.cpp FilterWidget.h) Select the "All" item in the filter widget views by default. Thanks for Felix Geyer for the patch
[15:26] <Quintasan> Riddell: testing updates once again
[15:27] <Riddell> Quintasan: which updates?
[15:28] <yofel> JontheEchidna: it doesn't crash anymore with your patch and seems fine so far, only the 'Mark for Installation' button is pretty useless ^^
[15:29] <JontheEchidna> :P
[15:29] <JontheEchidna> yofel: thanks for testing
[15:29] <yofel> np
[15:31] <CIA-98> [muon] jmthomas * 1159508 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/FilterWidget.cpp Always apply the filters on single click. Thanks to Felix Geyer for the patch
[15:31] <JontheEchidna> cia is being a bit behind with the announces ;)
[15:32] <Quintasan> Riddell: KDE in maverick
[15:32] <Riddell> Quintasan: from ninjas?
[15:34] <CIA-98> [muon] jmthomas * 1159510 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MainWindow.cpp MainWindow.h) Go back to the main view when the user reverts all changes and is in the "Preview changes" view. Thanks to Felix Geyer for the patch
[15:42] <CIA-98> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1159513 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp Don't crash grabbing the source package when a package has no candidate version due to pinning BUG:246799
[16:03] <Tm_T> ScottK: found my rw discs, so burning the image and will run it right when its reade
[16:04] <ScottK> Tm_T: Great.
[16:05] <Tm_T> oh whatta.... k3b or some other blocks empty rw from itself?
[16:06] <shadeslayer> \o
[16:07] <shadeslayer> btw
[16:07] <shadeslayer> EBN is up too.. now we can fix docbooks with them patches :D
[16:16]  * ScottK summons the web site ninjas to make an announcement.
[16:18] <shadeslayer> whee :D
[16:18] <Riddell> ScottK: trying..
[16:23] <Tm_T> ScottK: I think wodim just spit out the error that it doesn't fit or something
[16:23] <ScottK> Tm_T: You got the new one from today?
[16:24] <Tm_T> hmmm, I doublecheck
[16:24] <Tm_T> ScottK: bah, I did download yesterdays image today...
[16:25] <ScottK> That would explain it ....
[16:25] <Riddell> ScottK: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/maverick-alpha-3
[16:25] <Tm_T> ScottK: retrying =)
[16:25] <ScottK> Riddell: Nice.
[16:25] <ScottK> Tm_T: Thanks.
[16:27] <Riddell> now I can upload my backlog of things
[16:27] <Riddell> agateau: libdbusmenu-qt and plasma-widget-menubar uploaded
[16:27] <agateau> Riddell: thanks!
[16:31] <stryjan> can anyone give me a clue in which package are kde api docs located. I'm trying to write something in Kdevelop and I'm a bit frustrated.
[16:31] <shadeslayer> stryjan: they should have been pulled in with kdevelop
[16:32] <shadeslayer> and user support is that way
[16:32]  * shadeslayer points to #kubuntu
[16:33] <stryjan> sorry. I thought that -devel would be a better place to ask (cause, you know, I'd like to devel sth)
[16:33] <debfx> Riddell: could you also upload a kcm category fix: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/kcm-gtk_0.5.3-0ubuntu6.debdiff
[16:33] <Riddell> stryjan: there's no correct channel for questions about development on a paticular distro I'm afraid
[16:34] <Riddell> stryjan: and I just use api.kde.org for docs
[16:34] <Riddell> I don't think we package it any more
[16:34] <stryjan> Riddell: thanks. I just thought it's easier to used built in documentation viewer, that's all
[16:39] <Riddell> new qt curve out (also bug 528872)
[16:44] <shadeslayer> Riddell: want me to package>
[16:44] <shadeslayer> if no one else is up ...
[16:44] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes please :)
[16:44] <shadeslayer> ok :D
[16:45] <shadeslayer> 1.52 right?
[16:45] <Riddell> yes
[16:45] <Riddell> and can you check if it has a fix for that bug?
[16:46] <Riddell> debfx: "X-KDE-System-Settings-Parent-Category-V2" it really uses the V2 key?
[16:47] <shadeslayer> my interwebz is full of fail today :(
[16:47] <debfx> Riddell: kde 4.5 uses -V2 if it's present to allow backwards compatibility
[16:48] <Riddell> debfx: backwards compatibilty that still ends up in Lost+Found?
[16:49] <Riddell> debfx: uploaded
[16:49] <debfx> Riddell: no, kde <= 4.4 uses X-KDE-System-Settings-Parent-Category and kde >= 4.5 ...-V2
[16:51] <shadeslayer> Riddell: err... its named  kde-style-qtcurve ? ( the source tarball )
[16:52] <debfx> we can just sync qtcurve from debian
[16:53] <debfx> kde-style-qtcurve and gtk2-engines-qtcurve
[16:53] <shadeslayer> yeah
[16:53] <shadeslayer> ill look into that
[16:53] <debfx> it doesn't fix the equal rgb bug though
[16:53] <Riddell> fooey
[16:53] <shadeslayer> aw.. :P
[16:54] <Riddell> question is if we want to include that temporary patch then
[16:54] <shadeslayer> building in pbuilder
[16:59] <shadeslayer> sheytan: i have a old 7.04 CD as well :P
[16:59] <shadeslayer> if you want a photo of that :D
[16:59] <sheytan> shadeslayer i can't put that on the web page :D
[17:00] <shadeslayer> shipit++
[17:00] <sheytan> wanna see some new mocks? ;)
[17:00] <shadeslayer> i do believe that all our artwork is on the wiki
[17:00] <shadeslayer> sheytan: again? :D
[17:00] <sheytan> shadeslayer there is still muuuuch work to be done ;)
[17:00] <sheytan> http://a.imageshack.us/img831/273/downloads.jpg take a look here
[17:01] <shadeslayer> :O
[17:01] <shadeslayer> dont tease us :P
[17:02] <shadeslayer> dude.. that is awesome.. those install buttons are *very* innovative
[17:02] <shadeslayer> we can have them linked via apturl :P
[17:02] <sheytan> shadeslyaer me and ofir already had that idea ;)
[17:02] <sheytan> and thank you :)
[17:02] <shadeslayer> hehe :P
[17:03] <shadeslayer> well... since now rekonq now has apturl support, we can make this work by default :D
[17:03] <sheytan> shadeslayer woow! nice. I didn't get it to work in chrome :(
[17:04] <shadeslayer> yeah chrome is fail at that :P
[17:04] <shadeslayer> sheytan: i refactored the code to get it working :P
[17:04] <shadeslayer> had to add about 5-6 LOC
[17:05] <sheytan> shadeslayer nice. I only wish for rekonq to not crash that much :(
[17:05] <sheytan> take a look here: http://a.imageshack.us/img696/8712/downloadkubuntuchoose.jpg
[17:05] <shadeslayer> sheytan: updated to kde 4.5 ?
[17:05] <sheytan> shadeslayer yep, and rekonq 5.3 something i guess
[17:05] <shadeslayer> and its more of a issue with webkit+Qt 4.7
[17:05] <shadeslayer> sheytan: err... we dont even have a 1.0 release :P
[17:06] <sheytan> shadeslayer will be fixed for 10.10, right? :)
[17:06] <shadeslayer> it should be
[17:06] <sheytan> then ok ;)
[17:06] <sheytan> how do you like the download chooser? :D
[17:06] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I don't think rekonq is going to be the default browser.
[17:07] <shadeslayer> err...well.. konqueror supports apturl as well :P
[17:07] <sheytan> instead of changing the browser every release, put firefox there :)
[17:07] <sheytan> it has KDE support
[17:07] <sheytan> make the default style oxygen like from kde-look :D
[17:08] <sheytan> no one will see the difference :D
[17:08] <shadeslayer> meh...
[17:08] <shadeslayer> sheytan: gecko is sloow
[17:08] <sheytan> shadeslayer then put chrome ;D
[17:08] <sheytan> chromium, sorry :D:D
[17:08] <ScottK> sheytan: We've never changed the default browser.  It's always been Konqueror.
[17:08] <ScottK> this would be the first time.
[17:08] <Tm_T> Konqueror <3
[17:08] <shadeslayer> not enough space on CD for chromium
[17:08] <sheytan> ScottK well, leave it as it is. Konqueror + firefox installer ;)
[17:09] <shadeslayer> altho... i wouldnt mind replacing the KFI for a CFI :P
[17:09] <sheytan> shadeslayer ^
[17:09] <ScottK> sheytan: I think that's likely.
[17:09] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Currently rekonq is far to crashy and upstream won't even take the bug reports.
[17:09] <sheytan> ScottK Linux users know they can choose onther browser ;)
[17:09] <Riddell> ScottK: I think you misjudge
[17:10] <shadeslayer> ScottK: because its a problem in Qt.. as far as i can tell
[17:10] <Riddell> they opened the "random threading crashes" bug after the 0.5 release
[17:10] <Riddell> they didn't want to care about bugs with unreleased software before their release, which is fair enough
[17:10] <ScottK> Riddell: Not at all.  I've had my bug reports closed because I was using too new KDE/Qt.
[17:10] <Riddell> and now the "random threading crashes" problem seems to have gone away
[17:10] <Riddell> and I'm back to using it as my main browser
[17:11] <ScottK> We've another month until Qt 4.7 releases.  Are they not going to take our bug reports then?
[17:11] <ScottK> then/until then
[17:11] <Riddell> they're taking them now
[17:13] <ScottK> OK.  I'll give it another try.
[17:13] <Riddell> needs 4.5.0 to make the random crashes go away
[17:13] <Riddell> flash still isn't great though
[17:14] <sheytan> Hey, i'm downloading alpha3, which version of KDE it has??
[17:14] <shadeslayer> 4.5
[17:17] <Riddell> a release candidate of 4.5
[17:19] <shadeslayer> hehe..yeah :P
[17:19] <shadeslayer> forgot about the new tarballs
[17:19] <Quintasan> Riddell: too many bugs for release? :P
[17:19] <Riddell> Quintasan: how do you mean?
[17:20] <Quintasan> Riddell: if release was pushed back
[17:20] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: still not accepted in kde-packager?
[17:20] <Quintasan> then it means something
[17:20] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: nope
[17:20] <shadeslayer> :(
[17:20] <Riddell> steveire: I just synced grantlee 0.1.4 from debian, so we're using their packaging now
[17:20] <Riddell> steveire: is there any paticular need to do a backport to 10.04?
[17:21] <shadeslayer> Riddell: unless we want a patch for qtcurve..im going to request sync
[17:21] <steveire> Riddell: I was going to figure out how to do that myself :) No need now. What do you mean 'anything special' ?
[17:22] <steveire> Oh, that'snot what you said
[17:22] <steveire> No particular need, no
[17:23] <steveire> When is 10.10 freeze?
[17:24] <steveire> Grantlee 0.2.0 will be BiC and it would be good to get it into 10.10
[17:24] <steveire> I'll port kaddressbook and kjots to the new version of course.
[17:26] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: around ?
[17:26] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: yeah
[17:27] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: {debupstream} in a packaging recipe uses the debian version from changelog right?
[17:27] <yofel> steveire: feature freeze for 10.10 is in a week, maybe get a FFE if it's worth it
[17:27] <Quintasan> I belive so
[17:27] <shadeslayer> weird then... https://edge.launchpad.net/~team-iquik/+archive/tools says otherwise ( look at lm-sensors )
[17:28] <steveire> 0.2.0 will not be out by then anyway.
[17:28] <steveire> Backports will be ok too I think.
[17:28] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: btw will it be possible to get new packages in universe after FF?
[17:29] <shadeslayer> ( brand new shiny packages :P )
[17:29] <Quintasan> after feature freezee?
[17:29] <shadeslayer> yeah
[17:29] <Quintasan> hmm
[17:29] <Quintasan> It is possible
[17:29] <Quintasan> but you need FFE
[17:29] <shadeslayer> ok
[17:30] <Quintasan> Feature Freeze Exception
[17:30] <shadeslayer> i know ;)
[17:31] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: it seems the recipe left out the epoch
[17:31] <shadeslayer> and thus ill have to add it manually now :/
[17:32] <Quintasan> god damn
[17:32] <Quintasan> WHOLE WEEK?
[17:32] <Quintasan> Launchpad’s web interface will be read-only (most other aspects will be offline) for 90 minutes on August 12th while we roll-out the latest code.
[17:32] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: whut?
[17:32] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: kdelibs import fix
[17:32] <shadeslayer> where?
[17:32] <shadeslayer> ah :p
[17:39] <shadeslayer> Riddell: bug 613913
[17:40] <shadeslayer> build log attached
[17:40] <Riddell> thanks shadeslayer
[17:40] <shadeslayer> :)
[17:45] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: does https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html open for you?
[18:04] <shadeslayer> btw anyone of you guys coming for the Common Wealth games to india? :D
[18:40] <shadeslayer> maco: btw some good news, my uni has holidays due to CWG, and thus my 2nd minors might get postponed \o/
[18:41] <shadeslayer> so my chances of coming to UDS ( if i get selected ) have marginally increased :P
[18:43] <Tm_T> ScottK: finally got it running, live session seems to work
[18:44] <ScottK> Tm_T: Excellent.
[18:45] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^ enough testing for an Alpha 3 release on powerpc?
[18:46] <shadeslayer> ScottK: lol
[18:47] <ScottK> No, serious.
[19:11] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: I do not consider bug 613838 normal in any situation
[19:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: your on maverick or lucid?
[19:14] <apachelogger> mav
[19:14] <shadeslayer> i need people who are on lucid ...
[19:14] <apachelogger> how so?
[19:14] <shadeslayer> reagrding bug 603276
[19:14] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ^
[19:15] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: should be upstream, anyways
[19:15] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: that I agree with ^^
[19:15] <ScottK> apachelogger: Was that on netbook or desktop?
[19:15] <apachelogger> netbook
[19:16] <apachelogger> see screenshot
[19:16] <ScottK> Clicking is too much work.
[19:16] <ScottK> Definitely worth an upstream bug.
[19:16] <apachelogger> lol
[19:16] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: just get a lucid vm?
[19:16] <shadeslayer> im lazy :P
[19:17] <shadeslayer> and i have no lucid ISO
[19:17] <apachelogger> isnt there crazy script magic that does the setup automatically? :P
[19:17] <ScottK> BTW, I'm fixing up kubutu-meta so kubuntu-netbook is a transitional package for kubuntu-desktop and ripped out all the netbook stuff.
[19:17] <ScottK> I'm also ripping out sparc while I'm at it.
[19:33] <ScottK> Done.
[19:51] <debfx> upstream kde doesn't support X-KDE-RootOnly for KCMs, right?
[19:52] <CIA-98> [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* cmake/modules/FindGNOMEKeyring.cmake add gnomekeyring finder
[19:54] <shadeslayer> Riddell: qtcurve sync'd :D
[19:54] <debfx> both?
[19:55] <shadeslayer> debfx: both?
[19:55] <shadeslayer> there are 2 of them? :O
[19:55] <shadeslayer> bug 613913
[19:55] <debfx> indeed
[19:55] <shadeslayer> whats the other source called?
[19:55] <debfx> gtk2-engines-qtcurve
[19:56] <shadeslayer> ill do this quickly before i sleep then
[19:58] <CIA-98> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1159604 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.h cache.h package.h) apidox polish
[19:58] <JontheEchidna> debfx: right, we have a patch that launches them in a root'd kcmshell4
[19:59] <CIA-98> [ubuntu-sso] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/plugins/CMakeLists.txt make gnome-keyring support conditional to the presence of gnomekeyring and glib2
[20:00] <debfx> JontheEchidna: weird, the upstream login screen kcm contains a X-KDE-RootOnly line
[20:00] <apachelogger> whatever happend to novell's bandit I wonder
[20:01] <JontheEchidna> debfx: yeah, that bit went upstream though, for some reason
[20:01] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: because it was the truth :P
[20:10] <debfx> can anyone confirm that kate displays "?" icons for all documents?
[20:10] <shadeslayer> debfx: bug 613974
[20:11] <CIA-98> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1159607 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (package.cpp package.h) Use qint64 since in theory you can have packages bigger than what qint32 can store
[20:11] <ulysses> JontheEchidna: back from holiday?
[20:11] <JontheEchidna> http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopgm1538
[20:11] <JontheEchidna> ulysses: nope, just kickin' back and relaxing at the hotel
[20:11] <JontheEchidna> and I apparently relax by writing APi documentation :D
[20:12] <ulysses> I'm going to the beach soon
[20:12] <JontheEchidna> debfx: oh, that pic was in response to your question
[20:12]  * ulysses on holiday also
[20:12] <JontheEchidna> ulysses: btw, did you see that typo fix that I sent the mail to kde-i18n-doc about?
[20:12] <JontheEchidna> I think it's the one you had mentioned
[20:12] <ulysses> JontheEchidna: nope, I didn't subscribe that list, I'll do then
[20:12] <debfx> shadeslayer: thanks :)
[20:12] <shadeslayer> :)
[20:13] <ulysses> JontheEchidna: I found typo in the translation, that was my fault:)
[20:13] <JontheEchidna> ulysses: ah, but I had a typo where I said "this package does have" instead of "does not have"
[20:13] <JontheEchidna> big difference ;)
[20:14] <ulysses> hm, maybe I've seen it
[20:17] <ulysses> somebody working on Muon's documentation?
[20:17] <JontheEchidna> jjesse was working on the english docs
[20:18] <ulysses> I couldn't write bout Kubuntu Maverick alpha 3 release, I'm on holiday with mobile internet:(
[20:21] <ulysses> oh, the laptop going down, goodbye
[20:22] <JontheEchidna> bye
[20:28] <JontheEchidna> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/muon
[20:28] <JontheEchidna> needs libdebconf-kde, which is in new queue
[20:30] <JontheEchidna> is there any way to give bug 609247 any more gas?
[20:30] <apachelogger> dang
[20:30] <apachelogger> these kubuntu devs even include a gfdl
[20:30] <JontheEchidna> moo.ogg is GFDL'd ;)
[20:31] <apachelogger> that does not mean that one knows gfdl must be distributed along the source :P
[20:31] <apachelogger> you have an empty doc dir btw
[20:31] <JontheEchidna> generated by kapptemplate
[20:32] <JontheEchidna> once jjesse is done it won't be empty :D
[20:32] <JontheEchidna> bbl
[20:32] <apachelogger> hm
[20:33] <apachelogger> I really think MuonStrings should be relicensed to fit in with the rest
[20:33] <apachelogger> poor thing sticks out ^^
[20:33] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: no homepage? :(
[20:36] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: I would not describe the license as "GPL-3 or later" though
[20:37] <apachelogger> more like "GPL-2 | GPL-3+ (if accepted by membership of KDE e.V."
[20:38] <Quintasan> god damn those licenses
[20:38] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: go with WTFPL
[20:39] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: the package description overuses the word support a bit IMHO
[20:40] <Quintasan> apachelogger: We must let users know we provide support :P
[20:44] <debfx> JontheEchidna: spotted the error, the kate package doesn't install null.png anymore
[20:44] <debfx> my next question would be: why does kate need an icon to not display an icon ^^
[20:49] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/ (8 files in 3 dirs) cleanup++
[20:49] <apachelogger> Quintasan: not that usage of the word
[20:53] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/ (3 files in 2 dirs) more shares api
[20:55] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: yeah, I gutted the whole .cpp that I got it from, but forgot to relicense/recopyright
[21:03] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/libs/ (Share.cpp Share.h SyncDaemonShares.cpp) streamline string2Share::Type && string2Share::Access (and vice versa of course)
[21:07] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/libs/introspection/com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.xml properly use UbuntuOne::Share
[21:19] <CIA-98> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/kcmodule/Messages.sh also use them nice .ui strings
[23:25] <blueyed> when will 4.5.0 land in the "official"/open ppa?
[23:29] <debfx> blueyed: for lucid?
[23:29] <blueyed> yes
[23:30] <blueyed> backports/beta ppa that is
[23:31] <debfx> I guess as soon as it's released
[23:32] <blueyed> ok, good enough :)
[23:32] <debfx> maverick is already pretty stable though :)
[23:33] <blueyed> yeah, maybe it will let me actually burn DVDs maybe (found that regression yesterday).
[23:33] <blueyed> I might upgrade on the weekend.
[23:33] <blueyed> (although I'm finally enjoying some stable release this time for a bit longer)
[23:40] <debfx> don't you miss the occasional breakage? ;)
[23:41] <debfx> JontheEchidna: the changelog fetching code seems a bit broken in muon
[23:46] <debfx> JontheEchidna: when you switch between packages very fast it sometimes reads the wrong changelog file and some temp files aren't deleted
[23:49] <debfx> JontheEchidna: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/muon/muon_changelog_fetch.patch should be better


[06:53] <Gitzo> hi
[06:55] <benonsoftware> Hello Gitzo
[06:56] <Gitzo> whats this "team" thing about..  is it like a local suport group for ubuntu users?
[06:57] <benonsoftware> Yeah, sort of
[06:59] <Gitzo> ive used linux before.. mostly fedora and a small amount of suse..  but havnt seen a local team for a linux distro before.
[06:59] <Gitzo> just decided to try out ubuntu this evening.
[06:59] <benonsoftware> They is a few LUG (Linux User Groups) for each State also, what state are you in?
[07:00] <Gitzo> SA.
[07:01] <benonsoftware> Gitzo: As well as Ubuntu-AU there is also http://www.linuxsa.org.au/
[07:03] <Gitzo> ok thanks
[07:04] <benonsoftware> No worries
[07:04] <benonsoftware> Gitzo: We also have IRC meetings on the second Sunday of each month
[07:05] <Gitzo> in this channel?
[07:05] <benonsoftware> Yes
[07:05] <Gitzo> wow ok..  what happens in a meeting?
[07:06] <benonsoftware> Usally if there is any Gobal Jams happening we discuss that (The is a few this weekend) and other things
[07:09] <Gitzo> do you know if ubuntu is bigger than fedora and suse?   in terms of support/features etc..
[07:12] <Gitzo> ubuntu has its own gnome desktop and its own cloud..   fedora & suse dont have this that im aware of. duno about any others
[07:23] <benonsoftware> I'm not sure, depends
[07:27] <Gitzo> nice and easy to install my fav apps without knowing or having to research commands ...it instructs you how.   i like that.
[07:37] <benonsoftware> Yep
[11:04] <head_victim> sagaci: regarding the /Meetings wiki, I agree, it was on my list of things to do
[11:12] <sagaci> I'll just leave it to the wiki jam this weekend
[11:13] <head_victim> Yeah when I saw the wiki jam I thought it'd be perfect.
[11:13] <head_victim> I'm hoping to make it along to a couple of the jams but I'm not certain when exactly I'll be around this weekend so don't want to promise anyone anything at this stage.