[03:12] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex: the file is untarred already, but to go from there to the debian directory?  what does this mean?  it would probably be helpful if you saw the directions I am following, as I am assuming my misunderstanding is just a dumb mistake https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NdiswrapperOnAMD64
[03:12] <tomd123> this is the only reason why i'm willing to switch back to windows
[03:12] <linux4909__> hello?
[03:12] <ridge-meister> how can i create a partition to install Windows XP, from within Ubuntu?  There is software I need to run, that only runs on Windows (that Wine can not run)
[03:12] <usr13_> singlesun: You have to know where they are mounted.  cat /etc/fstab
[03:12] <eduard> AzMoo: yes something like "linux-headers-X.Y.Z-W"
[03:12] <usr13_> singlesun: mount
[03:12] <tritium> codyduncan: the debian directory is a sub-directory in a source package, not a binary package
[03:12] <ridge-meister> i'm thankful for the tutorial at the Ubuntu forums, got my printer working :)
[03:12] <sneakmonkey> i just installed ubuntu sucessfuly except when i boot it asks for my login password, when i type no text comes up, is there a way around the whole login thing?
[03:13] <tomd123> does anyone know any way i can view and play itunes libraries over the network?
[03:13] <codyduncan> In the terminal, I have already opened the directory for the file I untarred (nidiswrapper)
[03:13] <singlesun> usr13, thats the problem... i dont remember what hda my linux part is on... so i am trying to find it out
[03:13] <eduard> AzMoo: it's a package -- look in System>Administration>Synaptic
[03:13] <AzMoo> eduard: Righty-o, cheers.
[03:13] <usr13_> sneakmonkey: That is normal.
[03:13] <CVD> im using a windows program 'DriveScrubber' in wine but its say "there do disk , please insert one" but the floppy its already mounted
[03:13] <Mr_Sonoma> !patience | tomd123
[03:13] <ubotu> tomd123: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:13] <tritium> tomd123: rhythmbox has native support for daapd (the network protocol iTunes uses)
[03:13] <codyduncan> tritium: I'm not sure what that means (sorry)
[03:13] <AzMoo> eduard: heh, no synaptic here, cmdline only ;)
[03:13] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: well then that's it, you are in the directory, type "ls" to see what's inside
[03:13] <AzMoo> eduard: but it's all good, i used apt-cache instead.
[03:13] <eduard> AzMoo: do some apt-cache search
[03:13] <usr13_> sneakmonkey: That is normal. Passwords are not shown on the screen, just type it in anyway.
[03:13] <ridge-meister> give AzMoo a cookie :D
[03:13] <tomd123> tritium: doesn't work
[03:13] <sneakmonkey> really? il try again but i did type it and it still wasnt working
[03:13] <tritium> codyduncan: it means that whatever you're reading, if it's referring to the debian directory, is referring to a source package
[03:14] <sneakmonkey> thanks
[03:14] <tritium> tomd123: yes, it does.  I use it.
[03:14] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: there is probably a directory named "debian: inside
[03:14] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex: there is no debian directory inside the untarred directory
[03:14] <eduard> QUESTION: what should I do to scons so it would build a tarball? Is there a Builder or a function for that?
[03:14] <usr13_> sneakmonkey: Just carfully type it in correctly and it will work for you.
[03:14] <singlesun> usr13, so i am trying to find out what /mnt/hda?? my linux partition is installed on
[03:14] <tomd123> tritium: did you set any special commands, I'm also using a university network, would that matter?
[03:14] <tritium> tomd123: it isn't, however, able to play Apple's DRMed songs you buy from iTunes store.  Rather, it can only play non-DRM songs in your iTunes collection.
[03:15] <AzMoo> Aw man, it doesn't have version.h ! I need version.h !
[03:15] <codename> need help installing flash
[03:15] <codename> on 7.10
[03:15] <RequinB4> What (.doc) filetype is best for retaining as much of hte format, font, etc of OOo files as possible (loading on M$ office)
[03:15] <tritium> tomd123: no special commands, and network shouldn't matter.  What matters most is Apple's DRM in your case, likely.
[03:15] <usr13_> ls /mnt/hda?
[03:15] <c> singlesun: type mount
[03:15] <keith__> Can anyone help me install Samba server?  Here's the message I get when I try "sudo apt-get install samba":  Package samba is not available, but is referred to by another package.  I've checked, and samba-common and smbclient are installed.
[03:15] <ardchoille> !flash | codename
[03:15] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: then just follow the instructions as is.
[03:15] <ubotu> codename: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[03:15] <usr13_> singlesun: ls /mnt/hda?
[03:15] <tomd123> tritium, it doesn't want to connect to any of the libraries, i have over 100 networked libraries
[03:15] <tritium> codyduncan: URL please?  It must be having you build something from a source package?
[03:15] <CVD> ?
[03:15] <tritium> tomd123: are they songs purchased from the iTunes store?
[03:15] <codyduncan> so this file I'm dealing with, a .tar.gz ndiswrapper...
[03:16] <usr13_> singlesun: To find out where or if it is mounted, issue command: mount
[03:16] <tomd123> tritium, no, I play them fine over my windows laptop
[03:16] <codyduncan> tritium: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NdiswrapperOnAMD64 those are the directions I am (trying to) follow
[03:16] <tritium> tomd123: then you ripped them from CDs?
[03:16] <singlesun> usr13, i am assuming since I typed that in... it is installed on the first partition
[03:16] <tomd123> tritium, no they are other people's music that are on the local lan
[03:16] <c> singlesun: /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[03:16] <FMZ> Don't want to spam, but really need help, I'm doing this for a charity, they need it ASAP.  Can anyone help me install Samba server?  Here's the message I get when I try "sudo apt-get install samba":  Package samba is not available, but is referred to by another package.  I've checked, and samba-common and smbclient are installed.
[03:17] <eduard> AzMoo: what exactly _are_ you trying to build?
[03:17] <ridge-meister> what program can i use in Ubuntu to create partitions?
[03:17] <c> you'll see something like that
[03:17] <usr13_> singlesun: To find out what is on the partitions, look at /etc/fstab
[03:17] <tritium> tomd123: they probably have DRM, in which case it won't work.  Thanks to Apple for that...
[03:17] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: what is the problem? the control.* files aren't in there?
[03:17] <c> but you don't really want to mess with that
[03:17] <usr13_> singlesun: cat /etc/fstab
[03:17] <codyduncan> they lead me to http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93482&package_id=99148 (ndiswrapper)
[03:17] <turion> why is it evertime i search for something related to debian, ubuntu shows all the time? I know ubuntu evolved from debian but still O_O
[03:17] <AzMoo> eduard: VMWare Tools.
[03:17] <tomd123> tritium, again, this is a university, almost all songs here don't have
[03:17] <tomd123> drm
[03:17] <singlesun> c, usr13 mine is showing that hda1 is ntfs i suppose.... but im running off a virtual disk right now... so wont it put that as a temporary hda2? that i can save to?
[03:17] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex: the problem is that the directions are either leading me to a place that doesn't exist, or I am not experienced enough to access
[03:17] <AzMoo> eduard: It has a couple of modules that it needs.
[03:18] <codyduncan> so the control files are probably there, but I cannot yet get to them
[03:18] <c> singlesun
[03:18] <singlesun> c, usr13 live cd
[03:18] <tomd123> tritium, and would it really matter if the songs were drmed? since it doesn't even connect to the library to view the actual songs in the first place
[03:18] <eduard> AzMoo: so it need's the linux kernel's version.h ?
[03:18] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: you know you don't have to explore the folders through the command line. you can search through nautilus through the directories
[03:18] <singlesun> c, yes?
[03:18] <FMZ> Anyone?  Help with Samba server?
[03:18] <tritium> tomd123: yes, it REALLY would matter
[03:18] <usr13_> singlesun: But if you just open a terminal and type:  ls   you will see what is in your home user's directory, (but there may not be any files there yet...) Oh, you are using live CD, never mind.
[03:18] <Tuari_> try apt-get install smb
[03:18] <AzMoo> eduard: Yep. It says it's missing and that I should rebuild the kernel, but I'm pretty sure I don't want to do that in Ubuntu.
[03:18] <matthew_> FMZ: what are you trying to do with the SAMBA server?  I have limited knowledge
[03:19] <FMZ> Tuari_: "Couldn't find package smb"
[03:19] <tomd123> tritium, well I know for a fact my roomate doesn't have drm music and I can't even connect to his either
[03:19] <tritium> Tuari_: samba, not smb
[03:19] <c> singlesun: ah, then you don't have a linux partition, so there won't be a linux partition.  look for a memdisk, look where / is mounted
[03:19] <pvl1> whats it called when u make your grub menu look kool?
[03:19] <eduard> AzMoo: i have that file
[03:19] <FMZ> matthew_: I'm trying to install it so I can serve Windows shares from this box.
[03:19] <eduard> AzMoo: it's right under /usr/include/linux/version.h
[03:19] <singlesun> c, excellent let me look real uqick
[03:19] <usr13_> singlesun: If you are using live CD and there is a hard drive in your PC, it may or may not be mounted and readable, (but probably IS mounted and readable), in which case, use command: mount   to find out.
[03:19] <matthew_> FMZ: I think you install the samba package and smbfs
[03:19] <tritium> tomd123: you've enabled the proper plugin?
[03:19] <FMZ> Here's the output when I try "sudo apt-get install samba":  Package samba is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:20] <tritium> FMZ: update your package listing, then
[03:20] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex: (I'm assuming nautilis is the standard for viewing directories) I get what you are saying, but the problem lies in the fact that what should be there, is not there, or is somewhere that I don't know how to get to
[03:20] <eduard> AzMoo: if it's too stupid to find it, just copy it somewhere in the package's build directory
[03:20] <tomd123> tritium, yes
[03:20] <FMZ> I've checked, and samba-common and smbclient are installed.
[03:20] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex: namely, the debian directory
[03:20] <turion> since i dont have internet excess all the time where can i download the pkg to play mp3s flvs mpgs ects? i just need the .debs since im on a windows box right now thanks:)
[03:20] <pure`eigenVector> I'm getting a blank desktop after logging into gnome... signing out and trying to log in again.  I created a separate user, and everything works fine.   Why the hell is it there though, instead of with the rest of the headers?
[03:21] <ridge-meister> wow, unfriendly chat tonight :/
[03:21]  * pure`eigenVector gives ridge-meister a big warm hug
[03:21] <tomd123> tritium, k thanks anyways
[03:21] <FMZ> tritium: Tried it already... :(
[03:21] <shadowhywind> does anyone know of a command to "restart" usb ports
[03:21] <FMZ> No luck
[03:21] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: why are you trying to build ndiswrapper anyway? it comes installed in gutsy
[03:21] <eduard> AzMoo: copy it in the source tree and try again
[03:21] <tomd123> tritium, sry for being so stubborn, I'm just pissed at apple
[03:21] <mkquist_> pure`eigenVector: does that only happen when u log into ur new user?
[03:22] <tritium> tomd123: sorry you're having trouble.  I hope you figure it out.
[03:22] <codyduncan> I'm on 64 bit version, and issues arose
[03:22] <tritium> !info samba | FMZ
[03:22] <ubotu> fmz: samba (source: samba): a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.3 (gutsy), package size 3751 kB, installed size 9212 kB
[03:22] <tritium> FMZ: see, it's there...
[03:22] <pure`eigenVector> mkquist... it works find for my new user... just when I try re-logging in with the old user
[03:22] <usr13_> pure`eigenVector: First off, you will probably want to afford the new user some more priviledges.  Edit /etc/group  (to give new user rights to more devices / services).
[03:22] <FMZ> o_O
[03:22] <FMZ> This is a fresh install.
[03:22] <Dex-Freudii> hi there
[03:22] <FMZ> Wait...
[03:22] <FMZ> This is Kubuntu... but, don't they use the same repos?
[03:22] <tritium> FMZ: perhaps you only have the CD enabled as your only apt source?
[03:22] <tritium> FMZ: yes
[03:22] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex: my wireless card is such that it gives people problems, often (broadcom 4318)
[03:22] <Afk> turion: you can check out http://packages.ubuntu.com
[03:23] <Afk> and just download the ones you need
[03:23] <FMZ> tritium: Lemme see
[03:23] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: in any event, look for the control files in the untarred folder. who cares about the "debian" directory, just do a search for the files
[03:23] <Dex-Freudii> my gnome (that I use with Compiz at ubuntu 7.10) takes long to load... what can I do to fasten it up?
[03:23] <Dex-Freudii> *get it faster
[03:23] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: go to Places/Search for Files
[03:23] <FMZ> First time using Ubuntu, any hints on how to use other apt sources?
[03:23] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: is there a quick command to assign my new user the same groups as my existing user?
[03:23] <mkquist_> pure`eigenVector: sounds liek the 'old' user is the new one...  was gonna say you'll have to configure the new user to look like anything but default... but..
[03:23] <AzMoo> eduard: Seems that version.h doesn't match the kernel headers package.
[03:23] <tritium> FMZ: System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[03:23] <norv> Dex-Freudii: look into prelink
[03:24] <Dex-Freudii> norv, what is that?
[03:24] <Dex-Freudii> norv, what is prelink?
[03:24] <tritium> !info prelink
[03:24] <norv> Dex-Freudii: I don't know much about that because once I've got a system up I don't like to unload much.. so I hardly bother
[03:24] <ubotu> prelink (source: prelink): ELF prelinking utility to speed up dynamic linking. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.20061201-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 683 kB, installed size 1044 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 i386 powerpc ppc64)
[03:24] <eduard> AzMoo: well did you install the _corresponding_ version of linux-headers?
[03:24] <c> Dex-Freudii: http://www.crast.us/james/articles/prelink.php
[03:24] <pure`eigenVector> mkquist: I was hoping to fix the problem with the old user.  The first login after rebooting the box works fine... only if I sign out and re-sign in does it just sit there
[03:24] <usr13_> pure`eigenVector: Edit /etc/group and add the new user name to the end of each line that has old user name, (preceeded by ,  and no spaces).
[03:24] <turion> hi, does the ubuntu dvd come with mp3 support?
[03:24] <Dex-Freudii> c thanks
[03:24] <AzMoo> eduard: yep. sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[03:24] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: thanks
[03:25] <singlesun> usr13, c, mount gives me..... tmpfs on tmpfs(rw).... proc on /proc type(rw)... sysfs on /sys type sysfs(rw)... usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs... /dev/hda1 on /mnt/hda1 type ntfs
[03:25] <FMZ> I think I'm being buggered by KDE on that one.. lol
[03:25] <eduard> AzMoo: what's the error?
[03:25] <AzMoo> The directory of kernel headers (version @@VMWARE@@ UTS_RELEASE) does not match
[03:25] <AzMoo> your running kernel (version 2.6.22-14-generic).  Even if the module were to
[03:25] <tritium> FMZ: ah, sorry.  I gave you a Gnome menu reference.
[03:25] <codyduncan> omg, I just accidentally removed "places" and all that from my top panel, ridiculous
[03:25] <tritium> FMZ: another way to check is to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:25] <venger> would any other wine user here mind checking appdb.winehq.org and see if you get a too many connections error when loading the page?
[03:25] <AzMoo> oops, bad paste, sorry.
[03:26] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: right click on the menu and add the menu bar applet again
[03:26] <usr13_> pure`eigenVector: e.g.  cupsys,user1,user2
[03:26] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: i meant right click on the pane
[03:26] <peeps> i can't get ubuntu printer settings to find my IPP printer.  I somehow got it to work on another Ubuntu computer of mine though
[03:26] <norv> venger: appdb seems to have a really sporadic web server
[03:26] <Dex-Freudii> what should I prelink for speeding up gnome?
[03:26] <Dex-Freudii> and how?
[03:26] <wolferine> how do you convert .img to .iso ?
[03:27] <venger> norv, alright i just needed to confirm i wasn't over using it and the error pertained to *my* connections
[03:27] <norv> Dex-Freudii: prelink everything
[03:27] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex: golden
[03:27] <tritium> !iso | wolferine
[03:27] <ubotu> wolferine: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:27] <codyduncan> now onto my ACTUAL problem
[03:27] <FMZ> That seems to be doing it.  That config file says it was commented out because it was unable to verify.  Wonder if that's because I wasn't hooked up to the network while I was installing.
[03:27] <Dex-Freudii> norv, what is "everything"? I have to give it some sources don't I?
[03:27] <eduard> AzMoo: if it's using make, @@VMWARE@@ sure looks like an damn unexpanded macro. try make clean && ./configure && make
[03:27] <Dex-Freudii> prelink /path/to/executable
[03:27] <wolferine> tritium, thats pretty much useless, and I could have just done it myself
[03:27] <tritium> FMZ: yes, it sure was
[03:27] <tritium> wolferine: what is?
[03:28] <FMZ> tritium: I love you.
[03:28] <norv> Dex-Freudii: i'll install it and check, but I'm sure there's a 'recursive' one which links all executables
[03:28] <wolferine> tritium, get yourself a coffee, I think your losing it
[03:28] <client_> 010
[03:28] <tritium> FMZ: heh, no problem ;)
[03:28] <Dex-Freudii> norv, wait
[03:28] <tritium> wolferine: I gave you the information you requested.  Not sure what you don't like about it.
[03:28] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: k, I've added my new user to the same groups as my old user... still can log in/out and in again just fine...
[03:28] <Dex-Freudii> is there any other way? I mean
[03:29] <Dex-Freudii> for example to avoid gnome to load some components?
[03:29] <wolferine> tritium, as I said, that doesnt help AND I could have just hit the trigger myself
[03:29] <wolferine> triggate, aka. you did not give me any help
[03:29] <norv> Dex-Freudii: you can't pare much off of gnome...
[03:29] <wolferine> tritium*
[03:29] <usr13_> pure`eigenVector: Log out and back in again in order for the new user to realize new priviledges.
[03:29] <root__> Hey, looking for the dwm header file, where can I find it?
[03:29] <c> wolferine: i think he's trying to say that .img might be the same as an iso file.  no idea tho
[03:29] <AzMoo> eduard: http://pastebin.ca/882699
[03:29] <Dex-Freudii> norv, KDE is lighter right?
[03:29] <root__> I used apt to install dwm, btw
[03:29] <viktor> Hey! im new here and Ubuntu is new for me, Question: is there an app that work like the windows app Defrag.. and disc clean
[03:29] <CVD> nothing
[03:30] <jeffMASTERflex> Dex-Freudii: it's the same
[03:30] <eduard> AzMoo: okay wait
[03:30] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: done... logged in and out twice
[03:30] <tritium> wolferine: sorry you're having trouble.  Others have found it useful.
[03:30] <usr13_> wolferine: mkisofs
[03:30] <wolferine> tritium, I am sure they have
[03:30] <Ububegin> wat is the command to check whether a certain port is accepting connections...
[03:30] <c> wolferine: it seems you're either new to the terminal, or you're trying to do something very complex
[03:30] <Dex-Freudii> jeffMASTERflex, so how come does gnome take longer than kde to load?
[03:30] <CVD> any soft to format low-level?
[03:30] <tritium> wolferine: but hey, others have been appreciate also
[03:30] <c> wolferine: mistype: http://www.fileinfo.net/extension/img
[03:30] <tritium> appreciative*
[03:30] <usr13_> wolferine: man mkisofs
[03:30] <toulouse> how to i connect to a specific irc server?
[03:31] <eduard> AzMoo: okay, tell me -- where did you get the source from? (link)
[03:31] <c> toulouse: /server <servername>
[03:31] <norv> Dex-Freudii: errm, not really. Xubuntu isn't much lighter either
[03:31] <viktor> soft to clean hdd and defrag? PLZ
[03:31] <usr13_> toulouse: /server irc.newserver.com
[03:31] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex: you have looked at the directions I am trying to follow?
[03:31] <Dex-Freudii> norv, how much does your gnome take to load?
[03:31] <jeffMASTERflex> Dex-Freudii: it doesn't. maybe you just have good luck with kde. also, the ubuntu desktop by default loads the deskbar, and other items that take longer to load
[03:31] <norv> KDE uses kded, it is faster at the cost of memory
[03:31] <_elemental>  Hello, I'm trying to setup a vhost (zfbase.localhost) on ubuntu using lampp, everytime I go to zfbase.localhost it redirects to zfbase.localhost/xampp/
[03:32] <usr13_> viktor: Not needed.  It's done automatically.
[03:32] <viktor> ok thx
[03:32] <_elemental>  how do I keep this from happening
[03:32] <AzMoo> eduard: No link. It's part of VMWare Workstation. You click "Install VMWare Tools..." and it loads its own iso that has the tool packages on it.
[03:32] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: yes, i saw the directions, they don't mean much to me, i haven't downloaded the package to see what's inside
[03:32] <tritium> !attitude | wolferine
[03:32] <ubotu> wolferine: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:32] <Dex-Freudii> jeffMASTERflex, deskbar is the bar with Applications, Places and System menu?
[03:32] <eduard> AzMoo: okay wait a sec
[03:32] <usr13_> viktor: Linux does not have filesystem defects that MS does.
[03:32]  * pure`eigenVector gives ubotu a big hug
[03:32] <wolferine> tritium, stop fuelling the fire, your not helping
[03:32] <jeffMASTERflex> Dex-Freudii: no it's a little magnofying glass thing with the orange arrow
[03:32] <maxownz> if i install wine what versions of IE will I be able to install?
[03:32] <Ububegin> wat is the command to check whether a certain port is accepting connections...
[03:33] <Dex-Freudii> oh
[03:33] <tritium> wolferine: you mean "you're", not "your"
[03:33] <usr13_> maxownz: Are you sure you need IE?
[03:33] <norv> Dex-Freudii: virtually the same time for KDE as for Gnome, I just use kde because I'm used to it
[03:33] <c> LOL wow ... windows key + tab is pretty f-ing cool
[03:33] <jeffMASTERflex> Dex-Freudii: also i don't know if kubuntu does so, but trackerd is loaded all the time in gnome which indexes your home directory
[03:33] <CVD> ?
[03:33] <maxownz> just for testing web development
[03:33] <wolferine> tritium, enjoy being ignored
[03:33] <kenboo> anyone experience lock up of keyboard ? the same machine never had such problem with debian.
[03:33] <usr13_> maxownz: o
[03:34] <_elemental> maxownz, I've found running winxp in a virtual machine to be more stable for such endeavours
[03:34] <lxuser> how to keep system always fresh
[03:34] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex and tritium : thanks, no luck, but thanks.  Adios.
[03:34] <eduard> AzMoo: did vmware ask you about "the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel"?
[03:34] <pure`eigenVector> maxownz: I agree with eduard...
[03:34] <tritium> codyduncan: good luck
[03:34] <sixpence> Heya where is the dwm header file stored in ubuntu?
[03:34] <Dex-Freudii> jeffMASTERflex, how do I turn it off?
[03:34] <norv> kenboo: yes but it came with seized video and mouse, being unable to kill X
[03:34] <pure`eigenVector> wait I mean _elemental
[03:34] <_elemental> ^^
[03:34] <pure`eigenVector> <3
[03:35] <_elemental> maxowns, if you run a windows browser through wine you aren't necessarily seeing hte page as windows will render it
[03:35] <kenboo> norv: have you tried other Linux distros with the same machine?
[03:35] <norv> jeffMASTERflex: strigi's running in KDE which appears even heavie (i.e. indexes more)
[03:35] <jeffMASTERflex> Dex-Freudii: it can be disabled in System/Administration/Services
[03:35] <Pharaoh-> exit
[03:35] <norv> jeffMASTERflex: *heavier*
[03:35] <Dex-Freudii> jeffMASTERflex, is it advisable to disable it?
[03:35] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: any other ideas for troublshooting this gnome login issue?
[03:36] <jeffMASTERflex> Dex-Freudii: if you don't search through your files often you can disable it without any problems
[03:36] <_elemental> anyone know how to keep a vhost (using xampp) from redirecting to vhost/xampp ?
[03:36] <kenboo> I feel ubuntu is unstable comparing to debian.
[03:36] <norv> kenboo: yes, I'm actually trying to work on a meta distro. having come from gentoo I like source features, but binary distro is superior for ease and speed of set up
[03:36] <jeffMASTERflex> Dex-Freudii: also, if you don't have a printer, you can disable the CUPS printer service
[03:36] <didkoddd> hey guys how can i make my 3d decktop lika s cube ?
[03:37] <usr13_> pure`eigenVector: There are only 2 issues, username and password.  You are typing one of them in wrong.
[03:37] <jeffMASTERflex> Dex-Freudii: also, if you don't have bluetooth stuff you can disable bluetooth services
[03:37] <Stepa1> I have 3 part rar files.  How can i extract them. Hopefully terminal
[03:37] <tritium> norv: if you do prefer source, there's always apt-get source, if you prefer to build anything
[03:37] <eduard> AzMoo: do you remember about me telling you to copy version.h in there? well delete it.
[03:37] <jeffMASTERflex> Dex-Freudii: those three services are safe to disable
[03:37] <Dex-Freudii> jeffMASTERflex, bluetooth I don't have it
[03:37] <Dex-Freudii> jeffMASTERflex, thank you very much
[03:38] <Dex-Freudii> norv, also I thank you very much
[03:38] <eduard> AzMoo: that file is _supposed_ to already be there, or to be automagically generated
[03:38] <norv> tritium: right. meta in the sense that you can have the best source and best binary distro at the same time. at the cost of some disk (though not as much as having side-by-side distros)
[03:38] <tanubis> anyone know of a good web-based proxy script that will run on an ubuntu apache server?  I'm setting up an ubuntu box to handle internet traffic for my work's WAN.  We have internal applications we'd like accessable from the internet, but want to minimize the exposure of the internal servers.  Any suggestions?
[03:38] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: un/pw isn't the issue, it works fine after reboot... but after logging out and back in is when it stops working
[03:38] <tritium> norv: :)
[03:38] <norv> tritium: if there ever was a "best"
[03:38] <c> Stepa1: install 7zip and you can use the command 7z
[03:39] <Tuari_> tanubis might want to look into pfsense or ipcop
[03:39] <c> Stepa1: or download unrar for linux from the internet (rarlabs.com it think0
[03:39] <_elemental> u_u
[03:39] <tanubis> tuari_ are those firewalls?
[03:39] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: I'll see what I can figure out.  Thanks for the help
[03:39] <Stepa1> c: would 7zip work with rars
[03:39] <norv> tritium: was even thinking of putting in a "instant livecd" feature, then realized someone (e.g. I) might have left a few 'pictures' lying around
[03:40] <_elemental> Stepal yes
[03:40] <jeffMASTERflex> c unrar is available in the repos. or is it medibuntu. i'm not sure, one of those for sure
[03:40] <Ububegin> what is the command to check whether a certain port is accepting connections...
[03:40] <usr13_> pure`eigenVector: I'm sorry.  What stops working?
[03:40] <norv> I believe 7zip works with rar, but I haven't used that in ages
[03:40] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: the desktop doesn't show up.  the panels, the icons, nothing
[03:40] <mrtubby> Does anyone know how to generate an md5 hashed password that i can just paste into my shadow file?
[03:41] <norv> rar that is, 7zip is nice (even its front ends to zip/bz/ar)
[03:41] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: just a brown screen with a working mouse
[03:41] <AzMoo> eduard: Yeah, automagically generated when you compile, but I obviously haven't compiled :\
[03:41] <eduard> AzMoo: okay what exactly are you trying to do?
[03:41] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: is there any particular logs I should be looking for errors in?
[03:42] <lxuser> how keep desktop fresh
[03:42] <AzMoo> eduard: Install the VMWare tools.
[03:42] <eduard> AzMoo: well isn't there an ubuntu package with them?
[03:43] <usr13_> pure`eigenVector: You might try Alt-F2  and run  gnome-panel
[03:43] <jeffMASTERflex> later
[03:43] <norv> Ububegin: simple, use a client (for the server type that goes with the port). no connection = not accepting connections
[03:43] <eduard> AzMoo: oh okay forget it i've just read the doc
[03:43] <norv> Ububegin: even a non-firewalled port can be closed, by simply not having a server to respond to it
[03:44] <Stepa1> Are there any other methods to extract rars?
[03:44] <xTheGoat121x> Is there a way to display the results of a terminal command as an item on one of my panels?
[03:45] <AzMoo> eduard: It may be that the version of the VMWare tools is too old. Google seems to think so anyway. O
[03:45] <eduard> AzMoo: so you did the ./vmware-install ?
[03:46] <Ububegin> norv: I am trying to set up AXIS( a web service)... they mentioned type "netstat -npl will show your chosen port as accepting connections" ... when i typed the command, i dont see any port numbers... :?
[03:46] <AzMoo> eduard: Yeah, it does a bunch of stuff and then asks for the location of the headers. It can't find version.h so it errors.
[03:46] <AzMoo> eduard: It should compile a couple of modules and insert them into the kernel.
[03:47] <kenboo> Ububegin:  netstat -an |grep LISTEN |less
[03:47] <kenboo> -anp works if you're root.
[03:47] <anthis> on a fresh ubuntu install how do you setup the screenlets on the bottom like you usually see from screenshots?
[03:48] <CVD> "canont mount the volume(floppy), i could not determine the filesystem type and non was specified"
[03:48] <ssa3512> hello?
[03:48] <norv> kenboo: unix domain sockets have no port, correct?
[03:49] <Zombine> Dows anyone know how to change the percent of a synaptics touchpad used for scrolling.  Right now It's like 50%, and that's really damn annoying
[03:49] <kenboo> ah
[03:49] <kenboo> thought IP heh..
[03:49] <Stepa1> I have 3 rar parts, how can i extract it
[03:49] <pure`eigenVector> anyone know what the .ms files in ~/.metacity/session/ are for?
[03:49] <kenboo> i mean tcp
[03:50] <eduard> AzMoo: post the perl script "vmware-install.pl" to pastebin
[03:50] <ssa3512> I have a ubuntu system and am trying to setup an ircd-hybrid server, but when I try to connect to it I get 'connection refused'
[03:50] <avis> what would cause sound file icons in nautilus to turn to document icons and render the files unplayable until logging out and back into the system ?
[03:50] <norv> Stepa1: not sure, I thought you could just catenate them
[03:51] <norv> Stepa1: but it's probably not that simple if nothing does it automatically
[03:51] <WorkingOnWise> it there a firewall running by default in Ubuntu Gutsy?
[03:51] <NICOI69> How can i get a file to my computer from another computer that are both running linux in the same network?
[03:51] <norv> WorkingOnWise: no
[03:51] <AzMoo> eduard: Give me a minute. I've got a later version that I've pulled from ESX Server, I'm going to see if that works before I start hacking the install script ;)
[03:51] <usr13_> Stepa1: unrar
[03:51] <norv> WorkingOnWise: there are also very few if any servers running at all
[03:51] <eduard> AzMoo: good idea
[03:51] <CVD> cheeese
[03:51] <CVD> what happening here
[03:52] <Stepa1> usr13_: can you lead me through the terminal steps please?
[03:52] <fatejudger> I just  used the "start-up manager" to change my bootloader and after a reboot, grub gives a "file not found error"
[03:52] <usr13_> Stepa1: unrar filename
[03:52] <fatejudger> I replaced the menu.lst with the one it backed up, still no effect
[03:52] <fatejudger> is there something I'm missing or am I going to have to reinstall grub?
[03:52] <norv> NICOI69: use scp/ssh/fish which just require an ssh server on the other
[03:53] <NICOI69> even if both folders are shared already?
[03:53] <WorkingOnWise> norv: where can I go to get an explaination for how it is that the first 1024 ports of my ip are invisable but there is no firewall there to block anything. I do run pidgin for im, which I think are higher ports, but even 80 is invisable.....
[03:53] <usr13_> Stepa1:  unrar x file.rar
[03:53] <usr13_> sorry
[03:53] <Stepa1> usr13_: how do i enable component multiverse
[03:54] <levander> WorkingOnWise: invisible from where?
[03:54] <norv> WorkingOnWise: err, if you don't have a web server running 80 should be closed
[03:54] <usr13_> Stepa1: componet multiverse?
[03:54] <usr13_> sorry - don't understand.
[03:54] <Stepa1> You will have to enable component called 'multiverse'
[03:55] <eduard> fatejudger: use pastebin to post your menu.lst
[03:55] <ssa3512> does anyone know anything about running an irc server using ircd-hybrid on ubuntu?
[03:55] <genii> WorkingOnWise: ports numbered 0 through 1024 are assigned specific functions. eg: 80= http server   and so on. If you are not running an application which specifically uses one of these assigned services you will not havethat port open
[03:55] <WorkingOnWise> levander: ww.grc.com has a port scanner I use to check pc firewalls for holes. my pc is invisable. :) but no firewall at all.
[03:55] <WorkingOnWise> norv: I thought 80 was the port for http traffic both directions?
[03:56] <fatejudger> eduard: http://pastebin.com/m4e08354e
[03:56] <RiXtEr> hey all what would be the regex for finding '58G' using grep ... thats (digit)(digit)G
[03:56] <Stepa1> usr13_: "You will have to enable component called 'multiverse'"
[03:57] <genii> WorkingOnWise: Opening a port is done from client. Responding to port is responsibility of server. If no server, no reply.
[03:57] <czr> RiXtEr, [\d\d]G
[03:58] <eduard> fatejudger: confirm that your ubuntu root ( / ) partition is on your second partition of the first harddisk
[03:58] <CVD> linux dont ask to format the automatically like windows do?
[03:59] <Zombine> Anyone know anyhting at all about configuring a touchpad?
[03:59] <usr13_> Stepa1: Oh, what  you need is repos opened up.
[03:59] <RiXtEr> czr, grep -e [\d\d]G isn't working...
[03:59] <fatejudger> eduard: according to gparted, it is
[03:59] <czr> RiXtEr, add proper quotes around it
[03:59] <WorkingOnWise> genii: that makes sense. so that means that other os's have upwards of 40 "servers" runnung on differant ports? thets typically what i see for port reply's with that tool. mine is the first linux box i have tested with it. quite surprising results
[03:59] <Stepa1> usr13_: sorry, what is repos?
[03:59] <fitztrev> !im > me
[03:59] <RiXtEr> czr: proper quotes? ""
[03:59] <usr13_> Navigate to "System" > "Administration" > "Software Properties"
[03:59] <eduard> WorkingOnWise: actually the outgoing port is usually higher than 20000 -- it just binds to port 80 _on the server_
[04:00] <usr13_> Stepa1:  "System" > "Administration" > "Software Properties"
[04:00] <czr> RiXtEr, hmm. you're right. let me check what's up with that.
[04:00] <eduard> fatejudger: what OS are you on right now?
[04:00] <czr> RiXtEr, try '[:digit:]{2}G'
[04:00] <genii> WorkingOnWise: Yes. Although the 40 different "servers" could just be different applications sitting in the back on the same machine waiting to reply to activity on a certain port
[04:00] <Stepa1> usr13_: Software Sources?
[04:00] <usr13_> Stepa1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[04:01] <fatejudger> eduard: I took out my 7.10 CD and booted it up
[04:01] <usr13_> Stepa1: Skip down to the part about Multiverse Repositories
[04:01] <NICOI69> I still cant get it to work
[04:01] <genii> WorkingOnWise: httpd for instamce is http daemon (background process) eg: apache
[04:01] <Stepa1> usr13_: got it
[04:02] <RiXtEr> czr: still nothing
[04:02] <eduard> fatejudger: go in your root ubuntu root partition (not the liveCD's, yours), and tell me whether the vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic is in /boot
[04:02] <ssa3512> can someone help me with configuring a ircd-hybrid server?
[04:02] <fatejudger> eduard: I'm already there, and yes, it's there
[04:03] <mkquist_> anyone have any experience w/xephyr?
[04:03] <czr> RiXtEr, grep -E '[0-9]{2}G'
[04:03] <_elemental> anyone get xampp vhosts workin?
[04:03] <Cpudan80> What's the package to install the programming manuals?
[04:03] <LiraNuna> !anyone mkquist_
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anyone mkquist_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <LiraNuna> !anyone | mkquist_
[04:04] <ubotu> mkquist_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:04] <Strangelet> My computer uses two different Linux OS's, Ubuntu and OpenGEU. I use Pidgin on both and wish to share my chat logs between both of them. I hope to change the Logs folder to /media/media/Logs, instead of the current folder (what IS the current folder anyways?)
[04:04] <RiXtEr> czr: Ahh!!! thats the one... THANKS!
[04:04] <czr> RiXtEr, took a while ;-)
[04:04] <kahrytan> Strangelet➲ Can you share /home ?
[04:04] <WorkingOnWise> genii: I have always been a cautious user and as such, never an intrusion, virus or trojan on my system, but it was soooo much work. Now I sit on my Ubuntu Laptop with pidgin doing all my im clients (aim, icq, msn, gtalk, yahoo, irc, and myspace) and this thing is more secure with no effort that before after several hours of configuring ans installing ans checking. This is the minimum security level I can expect in a modern
[04:04] <RiXtEr> czr: I've used it before, but its been a while
[04:05] <czr> RiXtEr, I normally just use python RE anyway, hence the delay :-)
[04:05] <Strangelet> kahrytan: Excuse me?
[04:05] <TheFishy> kahrytan, nice pointer "➲"
[04:05] <RiXtEr> czr: looking for large directories on my server du -hc | grep -E '[0-9]{2}G'
[04:05] <kahrytan> Strangelet➲  can you put /home on a sedesperateartition so both Linux distros use it?
[04:05] <kahrytan> Strangelet➲  can you put /home on a separate so both Linux distros use it?
[04:06] <RiXtEr> czr: it will grab a little junk, but I can sort it out to find it :)
[04:06] <RiXtEr> czr: is there a way to make it only look at the first 4 chars... possibly awk..
[04:06] <czr> RiXtEr, yup. you might try running filelight at your server at some point. very nice & visual way of finding out where the large dirs go
[04:06] <avis> what would cause sound file icons in nautilus to turn to document icons and render the files unplayable until logging out and back into the system ?
[04:06] <kahrytan> Strangelet➲  You can put /home on a partition and have the systems share it.
[04:06] <Strangelet> kahrytan: hmm! I guess I could, though I do not know how to do it.
[04:06] <eduard> fatejudger: your menu.lst looks ok to me -- startup-manager must've borked somewhere
[04:06] <czr> RiXtEr, ^ = start of line. start with that :-)
[04:06] <RiXtEr> czr: no x on the server ;)
[04:07] <czr> RiXtEr, so? mount over nfs ;-)
[04:07] <eduard> fatejudger: do you get to see the grub menu?
[04:07] <nickrud> Cpudan80: you mean devhelp ?
[04:07] <eduard> fatejudger: or it directly crashes with that error?
[04:07] <czr> RiXtEr, good luck with your endevours. -> afk.
[04:07] <RiXtEr> czr: thanks again.
[04:08] <Cpudan80> nickrud: I guess, the man pages for things like random(), sleep(), etc
[04:08] <Lektus> hey all. Anyone here good with setting up a dedicated counter-strike server on ubuntu server?
[04:08] <kahrytan> They really should add borked to the no no list for !language
[04:08] <nickrud> Cpudan80: manpages-dev
[04:08] <Cpudan80> k
[04:08] <fatejudger> eduard: no, I get to see the menu
[04:08] <Cpudan80> Anyone know how to get a link in nautalis for "command line from here"
[04:08] <Cpudan80> or something like that?
[04:09] <fatejudger> eduard: if I select one of the options, it gives me a "file not found" error
[04:09] <fatejudger> eduard: the memtest and the vista bootloader selection work, however
[04:09] <nickrud> Cpudan80: nautilus-open-terminal  package
[04:09] <kodemage> Cpudan80: have you tried google?
[04:09] <kahrytan> Strangelet➲ http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[04:09] <Cpudan80> nickrud: I think I have that package though
[04:10] <eduard> fatejudger: that means you get to see the menu...
[04:10] <AzMoo> eduard: Yeah, definitely fixed.
[04:10] <Cpudan80> kodemage: yes, I found that nautilus-open-terminal on google -- didnt really work
[04:10] <Strangelet> kahrytan: Thanks! :D
[04:10] <eduard> AzMoo: happy for you
[04:10] <Strangelet> kahrytan: Waiitt.. Where are the Pidgin logs even STORED anyways??
[04:10] <Syn-> I'm trying to install the beta creative labs alsa sound driver (64bit) on an Ubuntu 64bit system and I'm getting an error saying it only supports 64bit systems... I have a X-Fi card, is there an easier way to get this working?
[04:10] <AzMoo> eduard: Seems that VMWare workstation ships with an older version of the tools. Thanks for your help though :)
[04:10] <eduard> AzMoo: no problem
[04:10] <kahrytan> Strangelet➲  probably under .purple?
[04:11] <kahrytan> Strangelet➲ .purple is pidgins preferences
[04:12]  * nickrud never understood not using app names for settings directories
[04:12] <hellotherehere> Hi, I have phpmyadmin and phppgadmin installed but when I go to <IP_ADDRESS>/... I dont see them, I think i ned to add shortcuts for them there. how to do that?
[04:12] <nickrud> Cpudan80: for sleep, try man 3 sleep (had to install the package, haven't used it for a while)
[04:13] <avis> what would cause sound file icons in nautilus to turn to document icons and render the files unplayable until logging out and back into the system ?
[04:13] <eduard> fatejudger: from your LiveCD, first figure out the mountpoint of your root ubuntu partition
[04:13] <nickrud> hellotherehere: go to <IP_ADDRESS>/phpmyadmin , its there
[04:13] <hellotherehere> nickrud: Its not,
[04:13] <NICOI69> How can i get VMWARE to install on ubuntu 7.10 it keeps giving me a i386 error
[04:13] <fatejudger> eduard: I have it mounted to /media/disk right now
[04:14] <kahrytan> don't ya need apache nickrud ?
[04:14] <jcmorris_mts> Hi all... I have newbie question re: the server version of Ubuntu
[04:14] <nickrud> hellotherehere: do you have /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf ?
[04:14] <nickrud> kahrytan: yes, I guess I assumed he had that :)
[04:14] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: you need to create a symlink
[04:14] <Cpudan80> There is an error in the package
[04:14] <hellotherehere> Cpudan80: yes I know, but how to create it?
[04:15] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: cd to /var/www and do
[04:15] <nickrud> Cpudan80: works here
[04:15] <usr13_> hellotherehere: ln -s
[04:15] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: sudo ln -s /usr/share/phpmyadmin phpmyadmin
[04:15] <Cpudan80> nickrud: yes, well theres an error in the package
[04:15] <jcmorris_mts> Does anyone know if the server + LAMP stack can be installed over the desktop installation, or do I have wipe the drive and start over?
[04:16] <nickrud> Cpudan80: ok, I guess I just got lucky
[04:16] <Cpudan80> jcmorris_mts: You can install the LAMP stuff on the desktop version of ubuntu no problem
[04:16] <nickrud> !lamp | jcmorris_mts
[04:16] <ubotu> jcmorris_mts: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:16] <Cpudan80> nickrud: I think it is a relatively new thing to be honest
[04:16] <eduard> fatejudger: use "sudo mount --bind /media/disk/boot /boot"
[04:16] <_elemental> need help with xampp vhosts, zfbase.localhost keeps redirecting to zfbase.localhost/xampp/  here's my vhost.conf http://pastebin.com/m58a6861
[04:17] <nickrud> Cpudan80: I haven't done an update recently (some other problems have scared me off for a while)
[04:17] <eduard> fatejudger: and then run "sudo update-grub"
[04:17] <hellotherehere> Cpudan80: did it, but still nothing
[04:17] <ironhawk> part
[04:17] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: then you did it wrong
[04:18] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: were you in /var/www when you made the link thing
[04:18] <hellotherehere> sudo ln -s /usr/share/phpmyadmin phpmyadmin thats what I have done
[04:18] <fatejudger> eduard: okay, it's done; should I restart?
[04:18] <jcmorris_mts> not just the LAMP stuff... I originally was going to run Ubuntu as desktop only... but I need to set up Subversion and become an SVN server.  So I have to be running the server version, not the desktop.
[04:18] <eduard> fatejudger: any errors?
[04:18] <fatejudger> eduard: none
[04:18] <nickrud> jcmorris_mts: you can run svn as a server on the desktop as well
[04:18] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: do ls -l in the /var/www directory and make sure the link you made actually works (should be light blue pointing to blue)
[04:18] <_elemental> jcmorris_mts, you dont' have to run server to serve svn
[04:18] <eduard> fatejudger: swell -- try restarting now
[04:19] <jcmorris_mts> I guess my question is: do I have to burn the server ISO and start over, or can I just download the server packages and install them on top of the desktop version?
[04:19] <jcmorris_mts> really _elemental?  are you sure?
[04:19] <_elemental> yeah
[04:19] <genii> jcmorris_mts: run tasksel             and choose the lamp task
[04:20] <nickrud> jcmorris_mts: linux is a server, at all times whether or not you run a desktop on it
[04:20] <_elemental> what nick said
[04:20] <Kuwanger> Is there a stand-alone program to launch .desktop files?
[04:21] <PanzerMKZ> but a darn good server she is
[04:21] <bullgard4> What programming language requires to surround surround identifiers by the quotes `'?
[04:21] <_elemental> um SQL?
[04:21] <_elemental> :P
[04:21] <jcmorris_mts> so if I want to set up Subversion so that a remote developer using Eclipse can connect to my box, you're all telling me that I can do it without running the server version of Ubuntu, correct?
[04:21] <_elemental> jcmorris yep
[04:21] <jcmorris_mts> yes, nickrud  ;-)
[04:21] <nickrud> Kuwanger: those are intended to be used in launchers
[04:21] <PanzerMKZ> yea
[04:22] <nickrud> jcmorris_mts: yes
[04:22] <genii> jcmorris_mts: Yes, you don't need the full blown server install for that
[04:22] <_elemental> jcmorris_mts: access via ip or if you setup the hosts file by host name
[04:22] <hellotherehere> Cpudan80: did it, and now I see icon in the www directory, but when I try to reach it it gives me permission denied, the owner of the icon in www is root
[04:22] <Kuwanger> nickrud: Um, exactly.  And I'm asking if there's a stand-alone program to launch .desktop files.
[04:22] <nickrud> jcmorris_mts: the packages are the same on both the server iso and the desktop iso, just different selections
[04:23] <PanzerMKZ> you know it is funny. Most people I know start with the desktop version and then add the packages they need for server stuff
[04:23] <hellotherehere> Cpudan80: shouldnt the www directory be owned by www-data
[04:23] <jcmorris_mts> cool beans... so ... all I have to do is...??  (what's the easiest procedure?)
[04:23] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: sudo chmod 755 /usr/share/phpmyadmin
[04:23] <nickrud> Kuwanger: you can put a launcher on the panel, or on the desktop, or in a menu. Those are the apps that use launchers. I'm not sure what you're looking for a standalone to do
[04:23] <Motorsport3> hello, my shift, control, special, and caps key just stopped working, how do I fix it w/o rebooting
[04:23] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: no, should be owned by root
[04:23] <_elemental> ok, so I'm guessing no one is running vhosts in xampp on ubuntu?
[04:24] <nickrud> jcmorris_mts: install subversion and subversion-tools (useful things) and set up your svn repo
[04:24] <Motorsport3> is there a init.d script I can restart
[04:24] <jcmorris_mts> ok nickrud... I'm with ya... go on
[04:25] <nickrud> Cpudan80: /var/www should be owned by www-data if apache is going to be writing to those directories
[04:25] <nickrud> jcmorris_mts: that's it :)
[04:25] <quaal> does ubuntu allow you to connect to the gnome login screen through vnc?
[04:25] <Cpudan80> nickrud: really, hrmm.... another error in the package then :-/
[04:25] <GeordieB123>  I've been at this for hours and no luck so far could anyone please help me. I'm trying to install an intel wireless driver and a bluetooth mouse. Help on either issue would be greatly appreciated!
[04:25] <Kuwanger> nickrud: Icewm's icewm-menu-gnome2 can open .desktop files, but it doesn't support KDE features like X-KDE-SubstituteUID.  More than that, it doesn't seem to work right on some .desktop files.
[04:25] <jcmorris_mts> ... and installing the LAMP stack?  is that just run tasksel & choose lamp task?
[04:25] <nickrud> Kuwanger: don't know a thing about icewm or kde.
[04:26] <xTheGoat121x> What is a pager?
[04:26] <nickrud> !lamp | jcmorris_mts (how I did it)
[04:26] <ubotu> jcmorris_mts (how I did it): LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:26] <hellotherehere> Cpudan80: I got this chmod: cannot access `/usr/share/phpmyadmin': No such file or directory
[04:26] <hellotherehere>  while the file is there
[04:26] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x: usually it means the panel app that lets you switch destops; or an app that 'pages' thru a text file
[04:26] <soldats> Kuwanger, check the icewm homepage and check for the current version that suports most of kde
[04:26] <hellotherehere> *dir
[04:27] <Kuwanger> nickrud: Nor should you, which is the point.  If there was a stand-alone unified launcher, kde, icewm, and gnome could all use it to actually launch .desktop files so it'd not be an issue of incompatability/issues.
[04:27] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, ah, ok.
[04:27] <Fezzler> Is $160 a good deal for a mini-itx Pen M 1.6Ghz, 512 Ram, HD, power supply, 15" LCD?  No case.  Purpose: Run Ubuntu 7.10 of course!
[04:27] <jcmorris_mts> way cool... you guys/gals rock... thanks to all!  peace out - jcmorris
[04:27] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: then you didn't install the package correctly
[04:27] <nickrud> Kuwanger: the desktop.org project is supposed to be working on that, has been for several years. The various desktops have to implement it and agree
[04:28] <rhpot1991> what is the propper way to do WPA authentication anymore?  If I do it with the gnome network manager it never connects, if I edit /etc/network/interfaces by hand and put all my info into there, then it works but only after I restart networking by hand.
[04:28] <bullgard4> xTheGoat121x: 'pager' has several meanings. One meaning is a program that outputs text in the format of 'pages' that fill your terminal. And when you press a certain key, the next part of the text will fill your terminal.
[04:28] <hellotherehere> Cpudan80: thats how I installed it sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0
[04:29] <Kuwanger> nickrud: Well, yes, they'd have to agree at least.  I was just curious if there were any other stand-alone launchers to try out.
[04:29] <hellotherehere> Cpudan80: what should be the chmod for the www directory
[04:29] <nickrud> Kuwanger: none that I know of that are desktop agnostic
[04:29] <Breakage> hi, whats the best video output to use with mplayer on a nvidia 6800?
[04:29] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: nothing, keep it as is
[04:29] <xTheGoat121x> Is there any way to display the current condition of a device via the GUI?  i.e. visually display "cat /proc/acpi/acer/wireless"?
[04:30] <Cpudan80> Not sure what nickrud is talking about with the incorrect owner thing
[04:30] <hellotherehere> Cpudan80: I will remove mysql and install it again from the synaptic
[04:30] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: phpmyadmin != mysql
[04:30] <nickrud> hellotherehere: and also install phpmyadmin from the repos
[04:30] <quaal> using the ubuntu vnc server (vino or whatever), does ubuntu allow you to connect to the gnome login screen through vnc?
[04:30]  * Kuwanger sighs.
[04:31] <hellotherehere> Cpudan80: nickrud: I will install both from the synaptic
[04:31] <Kuwanger> Makes me wonder why there's a /usr/share/applications, if there's no universal launcher.
[04:31] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x: you can add the network monitor to the panel
[04:31] <box_> if i were to upgrade verison of ubuntu would all setting etc.. stay the same ?
[04:31] <nickrud> Kuwanger: it's much improved over the old menu stuff, and whenever the desktops get their acts together, it'll be there :)
[04:32] <nickrud> box_: yes
[04:32] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud,  well that's a bit delayed and doesn't always provide me with the info I need.  It just tells me whether I'm connected to a network or not.  I need to be sure that the device is on.
[04:32] <Fezzler> nickrud: you know about mini-itx motherboards?
[04:32] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x: ah, I see. I look for the light :)
[04:32] <nickrud> Fezzler: not enough to have an opinion on your board
[04:32] <bullgard4> hellotherehere: My /var/www/ directory has got the mode 0755.
[04:32] <Kuwanger> nickrud: Sure, it's improved.  But, it's still a mess. :/
[04:33] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, I would love to.  But... apparently that's not supported yet with my chipset... or something.
[04:33] <xTheGoat121x> LoL
[04:33] <box_> 8.04 alpha4 is due on jan 31st ?
[04:34] <Aloha> is there a way to see a list of the files a package would install without installing the package?
[04:34] <nickrud> Cpudan80 hellotherehere  apache runs as the user www-data , for security. So, if apache is going to write to /var/www (like allowing file or picture uploads) the directories have to be owned by www-data so apache can write
[04:34] <GeordieB123> can anyone help me install a wireless card?
[04:34] <nickrud> box_: april , hopefully
[04:35] <nickrud> box_: sorry, misread. Not sure
[04:35] <spdf> box_: Yeh, the hardy schedule is listing Jan31st for A4
[04:35] <drambuie> Aloha, you could get a good idea by going to packages.debian.org
[04:35] <Aloha> drambuie, thnx
[04:35] <box_> tnx
[04:35] <Strangelet> My computer uses two different Linux OS's, Ubuntu and OpenGEU. I use Pidgin on both and wish to share my chat logs between both of them. I hope to change the Logs folder to /media/media/Logs, instead of the current folder (I would prefer if I didn't have to move my whole /home directory to a new one)
[04:35]  * Kuwanger goes back to contemplating the other 5+ issues he's having. :/
[04:35] <spdf> box_:
[04:36] <spdf> box_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule
[04:36] <trav1085> Do you use pidgin for just irc or do you use the other ones as well?
[04:36] <cube_> !hardy
[04:36] <Cpudan80> nickrud: no.... that's not true
[04:36] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:36] <nickrud> Aloha: install apt-file , then run apt-file update. you can search for what file is in what package, as well as  apt-file list <packagename>
[04:36] <hellotherehere> nickrud: yes I know that apache run as www-data, and if you run apache as root it can run as user so you can get virtual hosts and allow users to upload and write with their users
[04:36] <Jewsus> How do I transfer files between my computer and a computer I'm connected to with SSH? :S
[04:36] <Cpudan80> nickrud: I can upload stuff to my localhost - nothing is owned by www-root
[04:36] <Aloha> nickrud, thnx
[04:36] <spdf> trav1085: xchat is decent
[04:36] <drambuie> Strangelet, you could install geubuntu on your ubuntu setup instead of having it on a separate partition
[04:36] <trav1085> Ah, yes
[04:36] <spdf> trav1085: there's also irssi and bitchx, if you want to chat from a terminal window
[04:37] <trav1085> I've used them before
[04:37] <trav1085> Not bitchx, but irssi is pretty good as well
[04:37] <nickrud> Cpudan80: hm you using the apache2 from ubuntu?
[04:37] <Intronix> How to install .exe files and use windows soft?
[04:37] <Cpudan80> yep
[04:37] <spdf> trav1085: Ahh, I missread that, I thought you were asking if there was something other than pidgin
[04:37] <Cpudan80> nickrud: yes
[04:37] <spdf> Intronix: Wine
[04:37] <trav1085> K
[04:37] <Strangelet> drambuie: That caused quite a bit of trouble the last time I did it. :\
[04:37] <Intronix> yok
[04:37] <nickrud> Cpudan80: lik using gallery?
[04:37] <Cpudan80> nickrud: well phpbb - but yeah
[04:38] <nickrud> Cpudan80: ah, that's going into mysql isn't it?
[04:38] <Cpudan80> nickrud: no, the actual files are stored somewhere
[04:38] <drambuie> really? :>/  i haven't noticed anything with mine - what problems do you have?
[04:38] <Cpudan80> not in the DB
[04:38] <orbisvicis> how can i compile/install something that i cant remove first via apt because of tons of dependencies?
[04:39] <nickrud> Cpudan80: I couldn't with drupal, and all the docs I've ever read say the same ...
[04:39] <Cpudan80> nickrud: dunno
[04:39] <nickrud> orbisvicis: yes, but it's extremely difficult to do it without breaking something
[04:40] <nickrud> orbisvicis: difficulty does range from simple to extreme depending on the package, more accurately
[04:40] <orbisvicis> nickrud, curl, libcurl
[04:40] <pteague> how do you kill something that kill -9 doesn't kill?
[04:41] <CVD> gfloppy
[04:41] <chaosrl> is anyone here using the freewins compiz plugin? and does anyone know the channel for compiz-specific questions?
[04:41] <drambuie> Strangelet, the only problem i've noticed extra programs from e on my menus - splash screen and gdm theme - other than that a-ok
[04:41] <Strangelet> drambuie: Yahh, I personally would like to avoid that happening, I am just picky that way.. :P
[04:42] <nickrud> orbisvicis: you can probably get away with compiling them into /usr/local without problems. Make sure that /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc.conf has usr/local/lib in it
[04:42] <drambuie> Strangelet, you can always change the splash back and change the gdm theme
[04:42] <Cpudan80> pteague: sudo kill -9 proc
[04:42] <Cpudan80> pteague: If that doesnt do it
[04:42] <PoGz> hmmm...
[04:43] <nickrud> chaosrl: #compiz-fusion
[04:44] <orbisvicis> nickrud, what is libc ... and is it possible to make the new curl the default for apps such as curlftpfs?
[04:44] <eduard> fatejudger: well?
[04:44] <chaosrl> nickrud: thanks, much obliged
[04:44] <orbisvicis> ..libc.conf
[04:44] <RB2> I can't seem to find what screen had the nvidia tab on it for the graphics settings. I know I saw it somewhere when I was poking around.
[04:44] <fatejudger> eduard: bad new
[04:44] <fatejudger> *news
[04:44] <Strangelet> drambuie: yehh, i COULD. :P
[04:44] <eduard> fatejudger: what?
[04:44] <jm> Is Adobe Flash plugin for Firefox broken?
[04:44] <fatejudger> eduard: sorry it took so long, I'm trying to multitask
[04:44] <fatejudger> eduard: kernel panic
[04:44] <jm> Or ok to install?  Or alternative?
[04:44] <eduard> fatejudger: okay no problem
[04:44] <fatejudger> eduard: it says it can't mount to hd(0,0) or something
[04:44] <spdf> RB2: there's nvidia-settings
[04:45] <eduard> fatejudger: does it say it's loading the linux kernel or initrd or something?
[04:45] <fatejudger> eduard: it tries to load it, then panics
[04:45] <nickrud> orbisvicis: that conf file determines where the dynamic library linker looks for libraries. It will look in /usr/local/lib first (assuming that's set up as I said) , and the command line looks in /usr/local/bin before /usr/bin so the curl run will be the compiled one
[04:45] <eduard> oh okay then
[04:45] <RB2> spdf, that works! I know I saw it integrated somewhere else but that gets me what I need. Thanks!
[04:45] <spdf> RB2: np :)
[04:46] <fatejudger> eduard: I tried the recovery one too, and it runs through a few items before it panics
[04:46] <fatejudger> eduard: same error though, with the hd(0,0) mount
[04:46] <eduard> fatejudger: the panic is it something like "no initrd"?
[04:46] <nickrud> orbisvicis: make sense to you?
[04:46] <fatejudger> eduard: yeah, that sounds very familiar
[04:46] <fatejudger> eduard: I should have written it down though
[04:46] <eduard> fatejudger: no its okay
[04:47] <nickrud> orbisvicis: now, the question is why would you need a new curl, what's wrong with the ubuntu one :)
[04:47] <orbisvicis> nickrud, awesome.
[04:47] <eduard> fatejudger: can you still mount ubuntu root partition?
[04:47] <Motorsport3> how would I start Xserver remotely, so I can then use VNC to connect to it? I tried to SSH to the computer, and run startx, but that didn't work? Any ideas?
[04:48] <orbisvicis> nickrud, curlftpfs seems to have problems with 7.16.4 - keeps disconnecting / reconnecting - makes it impossible to work
[04:48] <fatejudger> eduard: yeah
[04:49] <nickrud> orbisvicis: never used that myself, have you checked the bug trackers and they say that using a later curl fixes that?
[04:49] <kenboo> Motorsport3: vncserver
[04:49] <eduard> make sure /media/disk/boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic exists under that exact name
[04:49] <eduard> fatejudger: make sure /media/disk/boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic exists under that exact name
[04:49] <Motorsport3> kenboo: I'm not sure what you mean?
[04:50] <Pimpdad> jm: yes, you will need to use the binary installer provided by Adobe
[04:50] <Motorsport3> kenboo: I don't need a VNC server, I need to start Xserver on a remote computer via ssh
[04:50] <fatejudger> eduard: it doesn't
[04:50] <eduard> fatejudger: okay what are the files down there?
[04:50] <fatejudger> eduard: it's initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic.bak
[04:51] <orbisvicis> nickrud, according to the page 7.15.2, 7.15.3, 7.15.5 is broken but 7.16.1 works ... i posted on the forum, a user reported 16.4.2 was broken ... i thought it was worth a shot
[04:51] <kenboo> Motorsport3:  ok, so you want to access :0 screen via VNC.  I think I've read about it somewhere.
[04:51] <orbisvicis> .. 7.16.4-2
[04:51] <fatejudger> eduard: the .bak part is messing it up, isn't it
[04:51] <eduard> fatejudger: okay open a terminal
[04:51] <kenboo> Motorsport3: http://old.realvnc.com/faq.html#x0
[04:51] <fatejudger> eduard: done
[04:51] <nickrud> orbisvicis: you've done the footwork. I just recommend people don't change stuff like that willy-nilly ;)
[04:51] <genii> kenboo: The client machine...*nix or windows?
[04:52] <eduard> fatejudger: "cd /media/disk/boot"
[04:52] <kenboo> genii: that's Motorsport3's question.
[04:52] <lackli> !evolution
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <genii> Motorsport3:  The client machine...*nix or windows?
[04:52] <genii> kenboo: Yeah I just caught it, thanks
[04:52] <lackli> !novell
[04:52] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[04:52] <lackli> !novel
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about novel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <DShepherd> "/usr/bin/expr: syntax error" -- is anyone familiar with the error on boot?
[04:53] <Motorsport3> genii: its windows, but I may connect from unix at times.
[04:53]  * DShepherd is on Gutsy
[04:53] <Motorsport3> kenboo: thanks, but that's not what I was looking for
[04:53] <nickrud> orbisvicis: one last thing, it should be done by the libcurl installer but just in case:  if the fuse thingy doesn't find the new libcurl, run  sudo ldconfig to register the new library you installed
[04:53] <eduard> fatejudger: "cp initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic.bak initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic"
[04:53] <SpookyET> Where is the gnome session file located? it's not i .gnome2/session
[04:54] <fatejudger> eduard: was that the entire problem?
[04:54] <lex0> i am trying to install NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.09-pkg1.run....do i take off the run part or what do i do?
[04:54] <eduard> fatejudger: most likely yeah
[04:54] <eduard> fatejudger: now,
[04:54] <fatejudger> eduard: so this start-up manager I used is probably the culprit
[04:54] <tritium> lex0: you should use the ubuntu nvidia packaged drivers, not downloads off of nvidia.com, if you want support here
[04:54] <genii> Motorsport3: There's quite a bit on it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=347163
[04:55] <eduard> fatejudger: paste your current /media/disk/boot/grub/menu.lst to pastebin
[04:55] <eduard> fatejudger: just want to check
[04:56] <fatejudger> eduard: http://pastebin.com/m4a3a77ee
[04:56] <fatejudger> eduard: that hd(0,0) error isn't going to affect anything, will it?
[04:56] <spdf> lex0: Its best to use the packaged drivers, however, there are instructions on nvidia's website for installing from their package ('sudo sh [FILENAME]')
[04:56] <rpd> Hey guys,  where is a good place to ask some quetions about imapfilter?  The current version in the distro doesn't seem to work properly.
[04:57] <orbisvicis> nickrud, ok. One last thing... ./configure make make install will automatically place the libraries on /usr/local/lib (right?).... but if i wanted to change that, typically i run ./configure --prefix=/whatever ?
[04:57] <eduard> fatejudger: now tell me what subdirectories are in /media/disk/boot
[04:57] <nickrud> orbisvicis: yes
[04:57] <eduard> fatejudger: (try to be fast i want to go to sleep :) )
[04:57] <fatejudger> eduard: grub is the only subdirectory
[04:57] <fatejudger> eduard: no problem, I appreciate the help
[04:57] <eduard> fatejudger: is there any other subdir inside grub?
[04:58] <fatejudger> eduard: splashimages
[04:58] <eduard> fatejudger: okay thats good
[04:58] <eduard> fatejudger: now, run "sudo mount --bind /media/disk/boot /boot"
[04:58] <Motorsport3> genii: That's close, I see what I can get from that post, thanks
[04:58] <lex0> spdf, i have an 8800gtx card and the nvidia accelerator for ubuntu sometimes crashes when playing games on wine
[04:58] <RB2> Does anyone know how often trackerd runs?
[04:59] <eduard> fatejudger: and "sudo update-grub"
[04:59] <genii> Motorsport3: freenx is also good
[04:59] <fatejudger> eduard: okay
[04:59] <fatejudger> eduard: restart?
[05:00] <tclineks> anyone know how to make lsof quick like it is through gnome-system-monitor's 'search for open files'
[05:00] <tclineks> ?
[05:00] <trav1085> I can't resize my NTFS partition
[05:00] <eduard> fatejudger: list of files under /media/disk/boot
[05:00] <orbisvicis> nickrud, thanks for your time. Ill install it early tomorrow when chances of success favor me
[05:00] <trav1085> I've run chkdisk /f
[05:01] <nickrud> orbisvicis: sleep helps ;)
[05:01] <spdf> lex0: Do you have the newest wine packages (they have a repo of their own for the latest)
[05:01] <badkitty> Anyone LFS?
[05:01] <trav1085> And even when I've used gparted it says something along the lines of "extended something needed (1000 > 1004 or something) not yet supported, try a smaller size"
[05:01] <orbisvicis> ; )
[05:01] <eduard> fatejudger: just look whether  initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic exists
[05:01] <fatejudger> eduard: yes
[05:01] <eduard> fatejudger: under THAT precise name
[05:01] <fatejudger> eduard: yes, it exists under that name
[05:02] <lex0> how would i access the newest package?
[05:02] <eduard> fatejudger: paste menu.lst to pastebin now
[05:02] <jrib> badkitty: there should be a channel for LFS
[05:02] <fatejudger> eduard: http://pastebin.com/d179ff0d2
[05:02] <badkitty> jrib yep ... they are all just sleeping
[05:03] <jrib> badkitty: it's offtopic here, but maybe someone in #ubuntu-offtopic can discuss it with you
[05:03] <badkitty> jrib: :-)
[05:03] <eduard> fatejudger: now restart, and you COME BACK TO #ubuntu AS FAST AS YOU CAN
[05:03] <eduard> fatejudger: go!
[05:04] <spdf> Run Forest, Run!
[05:04] <Shuggle> How do I get a screen shot of a single window to include the title bar?
[05:04] <jrib> Shuggle: alt-print screen
[05:04]  * genii watches all the trees running away in fascination
[05:04] <scorphus> hello, what is the name of the current release of ubuntu?
[05:05] <Motorsport3> gutsy
[05:05] <Flannel> scorphus: Ubuntu 7.10
[05:05] <eduard> gutsy gibbon
[05:05] <jrib> scorphus: 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon
[05:05] <Shuggle> but it doesnt inlcude the title bar
[05:05] <jrib> Shuggle: yes it does
[05:05] <jrib> or at least does here
[05:05] <spdf> Works in windows as well
[05:05] <lackli> is there a way to make an archive i download from a mailing list appear as e-mails in evolution?
[05:05] <scorphus> oh, gutsy! thanks! btw, where in the site can I get this information? I spent near 10 minutes looking for it
[05:05]  * syc_ brb dulu
[05:05] <Motorsport3> jrib: not on mine, no title bars
[05:05] <Shuggle> ok then. next question: Why isn't a screenshot of a java program leaving out the title bar?
[05:05] <jrib> Motorsport3: are you using compiz?
[05:06] <Shuggle> err... including
[05:06] <DShepherd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/3988/ -- anyone know why this is showing up in my boot log?
[05:06] <Motorsport3> jrib: yep
[05:06] <Motorsport3> I assume that's why
[05:07] <nickrud> DShepherd: try reinstalling coreutils , a stab at the problem
[05:07] <jrib> Motorsport3, Shuggle: yeah, in compiz, it does not include the title bar for me either.  With metacity, it works fine
[05:07] <Thorsten11> anyone here successsfully installed ubuntu on a vista partition with realtek 8139 NIC?  I can't get ubuntu to give me a valid mac address
[05:07] <FrankQ> Anyone know how I can troubleshoot why my media keys aren't working in Hardy, even though they did so in Gutsy? Gnome's key shortcuts recognizes an unique code for those keys and dmesg does not report nonexistant keys
[05:07] <DShepherd> nickrud, ok... i dont have the machine now though. coreutils have expr in it?
[05:07] <nickrud> DShepherd: yes
[05:07] <jrib> !hardy | FrankQ
[05:07] <ubotu> FrankQ: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:08] <DShepherd> nickrud, ok thanks
[05:08] <scorphus> among edgy, feisty and dapper, which one is the newer?
[05:08] <FrankQ> oh, thanks, jrib
[05:08] <nickrud> Scolo: feisty (alphabetic now)
[05:08] <fatejudger> eduard: THANK YOU!!!
[05:08] <fatejudger> it works!
[05:09] <jrib> scorphus: warty, hoary, breezy, dapper, edgy, feisty, gutsy
[05:09] <nickrud> scorphus: feisty
[05:09] <fatejudger> eduard: so it was just that initrd thing the whole time?
[05:09] <scorphus> thanks!
[05:10] <eduard> fatejudger: im back
[05:10] <eduard> fatejudger: im very glad for you
[05:10] <chaosrl> is anyone using the freewins (freely transformable windows) plugin for compiz-fusion?
[05:11] <fatejudger> eduard: thanks again, I really appreciate it
[05:11] <eduard> fatejudger: actually, I think startup-manager crashed and leaved stuff unfinished
[05:11] <fatejudger> eduard: really?
[05:11] <eduard> fatejudger: that's my theory about it
[05:11] <fatejudger> eduard: well it seems to be well received by the ubuntu community
[05:11] <fatejudger> eduard: and I couldn't find anything in google about my problem
[05:11] <eduard> fatejudger: as for the .bak file, you're damn lucky you got it
[05:12] <fatejudger> eduard: so it seems plausible
[05:12] <fatejudger> eduard: tell me about it
[05:12] <fatejudger> eduard: at least it's there in case I ever need it again
[05:12] <eduard> fatejudger: i'll make a menu option for the LiveCD named "Recover Bootloader"
[05:12] <lex0> ok i extracted the wine folder wine-0.9.54 onto my desktop...now how do i install it..or what file do i use?
[05:12] <eduard> fatejudger: for the next release
[05:12] <scorphus> thanks again, now let me install feisty on Xen
[05:12] <fatejudger> eduard: you're a developer?
[05:13] <eduard> fatejudger: you had the same problem as my dad -- he wiped his bootloader while reinstalling windows
[05:13] <DShepherd> nickrud, can expr prevent tty from spawing?
[05:13] <eduard> fatejudger: and yes i develop stuff
[05:13] <DShepherd> spawning*
[05:13] <fatejudger> eduard: heh, seems to happen frequently with those windows installs
[05:13] <eduard> fatejudger: BTW, if you ever have to reinstall windows, keep the LiveCD
[05:14] <DShepherd> nickrud, cause none of them, ttys, seem to be spawning.. causing the gdm to barf. what do you think?
[05:14] <eduard> fatejudger: if the boot menu does not start up,
[05:14] <fatejudger> eduard: there's a reason I keep it in my cd booklet
[05:14] <eduard> fatejudger: mount your root partition,
[05:14] <fatejudger> eduard: hopefully your new option in 8.04 will make these things a little easier
[05:15] <eduard> fatejudger: and run these two commands "sudo mount --bind /media/disk/boot /boot" and "sudo update-grub"
[05:15] <fatejudger> eduard: okay, I'll put that info in a txt file
[05:15] <eduard> fatejudger: write 'em down
[05:15] <ElsaxFallida> Hye!! i would like to ask on Ubuntu how we can share Usb drive Over Lan? Thanxs
[05:15] <lex0> ok i extracted the wine folder wine-0.9.54 onto my desktop...now how do i install it..or what file do i use?
[05:15] <eduard> fatejudger: BTW, you can have linux partition access from windows
[05:16] <fatejudger> eduard: yeah, ext2ifs
[05:16] <eduard> fatejudger: good, so you're safe
[05:16] <jrib> !wine > lex0 (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:16] <fatejudger> eduard: I don't use Windows though, it's just there in case I play games
[05:16] <eduard> fatejudger: yeah, most of us do that
[05:16] <eduard> fatejudger:but thats all it is, a game console
[05:17] <eduard> fatejudger: now i have to go to sleep, tomorrow i have school
[05:17] <fatejudger> eduard: I used to use it full time during previous releases, but 7.10 seems to have made huge strides in usability
[05:17] <fatejudger> eduard: alright, thanks again
[05:17] <eduard> fatejudger: no problem my pleasure
[05:17] <eduard> fatejudger: cya
[05:17] <fatejudger> eduard: cya
[05:22] <usr13_> I have gtk-gnash hogging up 46% cpu   What should I do?  What is gtk-gnash ?
[05:23] <chrisbrl88> when i try to log into gnome, it crashes every time
[05:23] <chrisbrl88> i have the error log, but i dont want to flood
[05:23] <Starnestommy> usr13_: it's a flash program
[05:24] <usr13_> Starnestommy: It's got firefox hosed up I think.
[05:24] <chrisbrl88> (process:5342): Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid.
[05:24] <chrisbrl88> This is not a supported use of GTK+. You must create a helper
[05:24] <chrisbrl88> program instead. For further details, see:
[05:24] <usr13_> Starnestommy: How to get rid of it?
[05:24] <chrisbrl88> thats the first part of the error log. look familiar at all?
[05:25] <jrib> !paste | chrisbrl88
[05:25] <ubotu> chrisbrl88: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:25] <usr13_> Starnestommy: How to uninstall flash plugin?
[05:25] <Starnestommy> usr13_: get the PID number for it, then in a terminal do: sudo kill -9 pid-number
[05:26] <mojo> hi!  i want to install freenx server on my gutsy server (for my home)... the seveas repos have moved and don't seem to contain the package anymore.  maybe i can install from a debian repo?  if so, what debian release most closely fits gutsy?
[05:26] <Starnestommy> usr13_: then sudo apt-get remove gnash mozilla-plugin-gnash
[05:26] <chrisbrl88> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54018/
[05:26] <mojo> !freenx
[05:26] <chrisbrl88> theres the error log
[05:26] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[05:27] <mojo> ug... not helpful
[05:30] <pmt_> is there a way to easily get rid of the anti-aliasing ? I'd like to have clean fonts on my system
[05:31] <chrisbrl88> anyone have a chance to check out that error log yet?
[05:31] <genii>  mojo: http://www.debianadmin.com/freenx-server-and-client-installation-in-debian-etch.html
[05:31] <mojo> genii, thanks i'll check that out
[05:32] <simonova> is there a conf file somewhere that determines what programs handle what file types?
[05:32] <kromagnon> anyone familiar with the "webcam_server" software
[05:33] <pmt_> when i connect to a server via SMB and mount a share, i dont seem to see it in the list of mounted filesystems (mount); what gives ?
[05:33] <getoo> i am using an older version of ubuntu , is there a way for me to upgrade to the newest version without using a cd (live cd)
[05:33] <getoo> and just to do it online
[05:34] <chrisbrl88> getoo: synaptic
[05:34] <soldats> sudo apt-get update && dist-upgrade
[05:34] <getoo> chrisbrl88: k .. let me have a look
[05:34] <compy> coudl anyone point me to a good site where it helps me install windows after installing ubuntu?
[05:35] <soldats> !dualboot > compy
[05:35] <chrisbrl88> compy: its better to install windows first. it has a tendency to overwrite grub when installed second.
[05:35] <compy> chrisbrl88, ooooo ouch
[05:36] <compy> lol
[05:36] <compy> dang thats right windows first
[05:36] <soldats> compy, did you see the message from ubot
[05:36] <overclucker> compy: it's not the end of the world, just get a grub boot disk
[05:37] <compy> chrisbrl88, so if i have 300 gig HD how much do you think i should have for each... basically windows will be used for Steam (Portal, TF2, COD4) and other apps for school
[05:37] <soldats> !uprgade
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uprgade - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <compy> overclucker, oh ok, so just incase it does i can boot w/ the disk
[05:37] <soldats> !upgrade | getoo
[05:37] <ubotu> getoo: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:37] <Motorsport3> ok, nm-applet is telling me that "no network devices have been found", but if I run lspci, I see my network card listed? what gives?
[05:37] <chrisbrl88> compy: if youre just gonna use windows for basic stuff, you could also go the VMWare route... that way you dont need to repartition
[05:38] <compy> chrisbrl88, yeah i thought about that... just not sure about it handling games
[05:38] <overclucker> compy: what happens is windows overwrites the mbr, so with grub boot floppy you point the mbr back to grub
[05:39] <mojo> Psilocyde, isn't it psilocybe?
[05:39] <chrisbrl88> compy: depends which games. games that use the unreal and quake engines almost always have native linux installers and run better under linux anyway lol
[05:39] <compy> overclucker, so at this point i only have one partition.... will i need to make a new one prior to installing windows
[05:39] <Psilocyde> uh huh
[05:39] <soldats> compy, cadega can handle some games as well as wine. check their sites for mor info about running games in linix
[05:39] <overclucker> compy: yup
[05:39] <Psilocyde> ya mojo
[05:39] <compy> cedega i dont want to pay for =[
[05:39] <soldats> well wine is free
[05:39] <Psilocyde> i yhought it was a witty play
[05:40] <Psilocyde> thought
[05:40] <kromagnon> anyone good with webcam-server? http://webcamserver.sourceforge.net/
[05:40] <sneakmonkey> ive got a noob question, im typing in my login password when i boot and its not working (double checked for case sensitive etc), ive reinstalled twice just to change my login and it still hasnt worked. is there some other way besides reinstalation to change the login information?
[05:40] <compy> overclucker, and if i install windows first then when isntalling ubuntu i wont need to partition it will ask me to do so right?
[05:40] <Le^stat> morning
[05:40] <chrisbrl88> compy: do you need an app to resize the partitions on your drive?
[05:40] <overclucker> compy: whats more, is that you will want windows closer to the front of disk, to get faster r/w speeds for your games
[05:41] <compy> chrisbrl88, i have one on my ubuntu
[05:41] <laughzilla> hi :) i converted a bunch of FLAC files to .mp3 so i could put them on my friend's ipod ... and then i put the dir of .mp3 files in her "Music" directory ... however, i don't see the files when i try to play them ... what am i not doing correctly?  :)
[05:41] <Le^stat> why wont ubuntu remember the terminal server licence from the licencing box?
[05:41] <user11_011>  is there no messenger in ubuntu for yahoo? pidgin fails. very bad
[05:41] <compy> overclucker, so install windows first?
[05:41] <overclucker> compy: yeah, it would be best to install windows over ubuntu, then reinstall ubuntu
[05:41] <simonova> laughzilla: what generation of ipod?
[05:41] <chrisbrl88> i still need my question answered haha
[05:41] <Tygir> hello all...i just installed 7.1 and i was trying to configure my broadcom wireless card...anyone help?
[05:41] <kromagnon> user11_011: try gaim
[05:42] <compy> overclucker, i will just do that... its not to hard to reinstall ubuntu
[05:42] <soldats> laughzilla, do "locate *.mp3 | less" in terminal and see where the mp3s are to make sure
[05:42] <laughzilla> simonova - pretty new , i don't know ipod stuff well, but it's got a nice color screen on it
[05:42] <user11_011> kromagnon: gaim itself is pidgin
[05:42] <chrisbrl88> kromagnon: gaim is now pidgin
[05:42] <soldats> renamed due to court issues
[05:42] <Tygir> i did use the auto-installer on ubuntuforums.org...and it network i used to see the wireless card, but i no longer do
[05:42] <kromagnon> ah i see
[05:43] <simonova> the newest ipods arn't compatible with linux, the mp3's need to be encoded by itunes or they won't work
[05:43] <overclucker> compy: ubuntu cd has a good partition resizer
[05:43] <laughzilla> doh!
[05:43] <soldats> sneakmonkey, did you make sure you set up your profile correctly. try it with no password
[05:43] <compy> overclucker, ok perfect
[05:43] <getoo> what is the latest ubuntu kernel ?
[05:43] <cube_> 2.6
[05:43] <soldats> 2.26
[05:43] <getoo> i got 2.6.22
[05:44] <soldats> err yea
[05:44] <compy> so if i have 300 gb HD and i want steam games and some space left over for other windows only apps (for school so cant be too large) how much should i allow for vista (i know its unfortunate)
[05:44] <cube_> i have 2.6.22 on ubuntu 8.04
[05:44] <getoo> cube_: is that the latest version
[05:44] <laughzilla> simonova - that's a bummer, thanks for letting me know.  well i do see i have something called "yamipod"  on my ubuntu box (it's not installed yet) which is supposed to make mp3 files playable on an ipod.
[05:44] <Le^stat> is there any way i can get past terminal server licencing ....the licencing machine works with windows but not with linux
[05:44] <chrisbrl88> compy: shame shame. vista is an atrocity.
[05:44] <bazhang> compy: with vlite not that much
[05:44] <soldats> IIRC its 2.6.24 but its still in dev
[05:44] <portablejim> how come k3b does not support OGG video?
[05:44] <compy> bazhang, how do you do vlite
[05:45] <getoo> soldats: anyway i can install the dev version
[05:45] <chrisbrl88> portablejim: you need the codecs
[05:45] <compy> chrisbrl88, haha i know its horrible... why do you think im on ubuntu now... i have more problems w/ vista that linux
[05:45] <getoo> i need to get my wireless to work
[05:45] <bazhang> compy: ask in the windows channel
[05:45] <soldats> getoo, whats wrong with it
[05:45] <cube_> getoo: its the developmental version gutsy 7.10 is the latest version
[05:45] <bazhang> compy:  ##windows can help with that
[05:45] <getoo> soldat wont work , and if i use the 2.6.4 should work
[05:45] <simonova> I'm not familiar with that, I just know apple won't release the code needed to convert mp3's to the format needed to work on new ipods
[05:45] <chrisbrl88> compy: give the OS you plan on using more than the other around 2/3 of the drive... that works for me
[05:46] <getoo> i did some google
[05:46] <getoo> i just dont know how to install the dev-kernel
[05:46] <soldats> getoo, what manufacturer
[05:46] <getoo> dell 1525
[05:46] <bazhang> simonova: that is not the issue with new ipods
[05:46] <laughzilla> soldats - when i run the locate command against the ipod device, it comes up empty.
[05:46] <Tygir> im in the same boat as getoo....i just bought it today...
[05:46] <compy> chrisbrl88, thanks
[05:46] <chrisbrl88> n/p
[05:47] <portablejim> chrisbrl88: I have the libvorbis packages (not the -dev packages)
[05:47] <getoo> Tygir: same here
[05:47] <getoo> i got it today
[05:47] <Tygir> broadcom BCM94311
[05:47] <getoo> yeap
[05:47] <simonova> bazhang: that's how i understood it, what is the issue?
[05:47] <Tygir> yeah
[05:47] <Tygir> i have no idea...
[05:47] <overclucker> compy: well, the best layout would be 100mb ext2/100gb ntfs/197gb ext3/2gb swap
[05:47] <getoo> i dont wanna use ndiswrapper
[05:47] <Tygir> trying to get some help here
[05:47] <laughzilla> simonova - this one's from about a year ago ... you're saying it won't work on this one either ?
[05:47] <chrisbrl88> portablejim: im not sure then
[05:47] <getoo> the newer kernel works just fine
[05:47] <Tygir> think we might have to...
[05:47] <getoo> just not sure how to install it
[05:47] <soldats> laughzilla, no it should work
[05:47] <chrisbrl88> smoking time for me
[05:48] <Tygir> install what?
[05:48] <chrisbrl88> brb
[05:48] <getoo> Tygir: 2.6.4
[05:48] <simonova> laughzilla: give it a go, I got some friends that'd be thrilled if there is a way to make it work
[05:48] <compy> overclucker, thanks
[05:48] <laughzilla> soldats - so how can i make it work ?
[05:48] <soldats> getoo, youll have to get the source for the newest version and compile it yourself
[05:48] <getoo> new kernel
[05:48] <Tygir> soldats: what you mean?
[05:48] <getoo> soldats: k . thanx
[05:48] <bazhang> simonova: laughzilla http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod
[05:48] <laughzilla> thanks bazhang :)
[05:48] <Thorsten11> exit
[05:48] <bazhang> np
[05:49] <spdf> getoo, I think there may be a modules backport
[05:49] <laughzilla> if i manage to make it work i'll let u know, simonova :)
[05:49] <getoo> spdf: k
[05:49] <spdf> getoo, I know of that solving an issue with the microphone
[05:49] <spdf> getoo, 2.6.22 backport
[05:49] <getoo> k
[05:49] <getoo> thank u sir
[05:49] <Tygir> spdf: what do you mean...im in the same boat
[05:49] <Tygir> im so confused
[05:50] <getoo> thanx guys
[05:50] <Tygir> can anyone help me out?
[05:50] <Tygir> i thought i was in the same boat as getoo...
[05:50] <compy> bazhang, is vlite risky to do or is it 100 % safe
[05:50] <bazhang> compy: this is #ubuntu ;]
[05:51] <Luke> is something wrong w/ network manager and wpa personal conections?
[05:51] <hellotherehere> hi, I am downloading kubuntu now, I know that when its done it will ask me if I want to use kdm or gdm, which one to choose?
[05:51] <compy> bazhang, i know... do you have any history w/ it
[05:51] <soldats> hellotherehere, gdm is fine
[05:51] <soldats> its standard
[05:51] <bazhang> compy: my version of vlite is format C and install ubuntu ;]
[05:51] <chrisbrl88> the day-star will arrive in 5 hours
[05:51] <laughzilla> fyi , bazhang , simonova , soldats : this ipod has a capacity of 80 GB .. so according to that page bazhang pointed me to, it's either an ipod classic (1st generation) which i guess this isn't cuz it's got a color screen, or it's a fifth generation ipod.
[05:51] <chrisbrl88> the day-star frightens me
[05:52] <soldats> kdm or gdm will work fine but i highly doube there will be confison between
[05:52] <compy> bazhang, haha
[05:52] <pmt_> when ubuntu connects to windows shares, is it via samba ?
[05:52] <chrisbrl88> pmt_: yes
[05:52] <soldats> laughzilla, 5th gen
[05:53] <pmt_> hmm ok, so when i am connected to one of these shares, how come i dont see it mounted via 'mount' ?
[05:53] <portablejim> chrisbrl88: I think it was vorbis tools.
[05:53] <laughzilla> soldats, right
[05:53] <chrisbrl88> would someone mind taking a look at my error log and helping me out with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54018/
[05:53] <portablejim> chrisbrl88: I installed it and it worked.
[05:53] <simonova> then it should work fine. are you mounting the ipod and cping the files, or using amarok?
[05:53] <Intronix> How to get access to add files in usr/lib/openoffice/program? Im admin on the PC!
[05:53] <soldats> 5th gens work fine
[05:54] <spdf> laughzilla: The 80gb is 5.5G
[05:54] <soldats> Intronix, use sudo
[05:54] <Hemebond> Is it no longer possible to use the "flat" desktop cube in Ubuntu?
[05:54] <laughzilla> simonova - i'm mounting the ipod and cping the files, except i notice that all the files in the Music/ dir are separated into files ie: F00 F01 F002 F003, etc,
[05:54] <Intronix> ok thx
[05:54] <bazhang> Hemebond: flat is two sides; strange cube ;]
[05:54] <theRealballchalk> hi guys
[05:54] <soldats> laughzilla, those files are how ipods register it
[05:54] <portablejim> chrisbrl88: no it was not. it did not work.
[05:55] <Hemebond> No no. I mean flat as in it's not on a 3D cube, it's just one continuous wall.
[05:55] <theRealballchalk> does ATi FireGL v3200 work with opengl under ubuntu?
[05:55] <laughzilla> simonova - right, and all the files in those dirs are mp4a ... and when i stick mp3 files in there, i don't see them come up in my Rhytmbox application (to make sure they're there, etc)
[05:55] <spdf> laughzilla: You can use Rythmbox or gtkpod to add songs to the ipod. However, with new ipods, you need new versions of libgpod to get them to work
[05:55] <compy> anyone ever go to the efnet ubuntu chat?
[05:55] <soldats> no^
[05:56] <chrisbrl88> brb
[05:56] <Tygir> in the wifi radar prog i get stuck on acquiring ip address..any idea why?
[05:56] <simonova> use rythmbox to transfer them to the ipod in the first place
[05:56] <bazhang> Hemebond: thus not a cube; the wall is still possible though--under general in ccsm adjust virtual desktops
[05:56] <laughzilla> i think i must have installed libgpod last night when i installed soundconverter, but i'll double check. been a long night :D
[05:56] <spdf> laughzilla: The libgpod included with gutsy will corrupt the database on the newer ipods
[05:56] <compy> soldats, ok reason i ask is because people are dicks there, you guys in here are actually friendly and helpful... i appreciate it.  Thansk to all ^^^
[05:56] <laughzilla> spdf - i'm on ubuntu 7.10
[05:57] <Intronix> how to use sudo?
[05:57] <soldats> compy, this server and channel are the official ones. i wouldnt be anywhere near someone on an efnet ubuntu channel
[05:57] <soldats> !sudo | Intronix
[05:57] <ubotu> Intronix: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[05:57] <compy> haha it makes sense... the people there arent friendly.  Their response is !google
[05:57] <compy> even though i have already checked there
[05:57] <bazhang> Intronix: sudo the command you want here; sudo apt-get install package for example
[05:58] <Intronix> ok thx!!!
[05:58] <soldats> compy, well dont ever go back there :)
[05:58] <compy> trust me i wont
[05:58] <bazhang> np
[05:58] <laughzilla> spdf - i am using ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon, in fact
[05:59] <spdf> laughzilla: Yep, thats gutsy. I actually corrupted mine before I found the packages and instructions
[05:59] <compy> after i install windows and ubuntu and am back up running... ill be back here
[05:59] <laughzilla> so should i just upgrade my libgpod ?
[05:59] <simonova> does anyone know how nautilius figures out what programs handle what file type? It's been driving me nuts for days.
[05:59] <compy> well off to bed... gotta go skiing tomorrow later and thanks
[05:59] <bazhang> bye
[05:59] <soldats> compy, lucky see you
[06:00] <spdf> laughzilla: Yes, the newer version supports the newer classics and nanos
[06:00] <laughzilla> thanks spdf i'll try to upgrade it now
[06:00] <soldats> simonova, normally if its a text document it uses gedit but usually it isnt accociated with anything so you have to set it yourself
[06:01] <spdf> laughzilla: I believe its in backports
[06:01] <laughzilla> i have 0.5.2-2  of libgpod
[06:01] <simonova> I'm trying to write a file manager in perl, I was hoping there was some handy little conf file I could use
[06:01] <bazhang> http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/Hooking+Up+the+iPod this has something too
[06:02] <laughzilla> must i uninstall it before i can install it properly, spdf ? or will the "Mark for reinstallation" work fine normally?
[06:02] <spdf> laughzilla: You'll want to get get 0.6.0 at least
[06:02] <soldats> simonova, tell it to look for gedit or use mousepad if nothing else or even use vi
[06:03] <dbmoodb> hi ah i was just using synaptic (faster for many packages i know i want but all their names) and deleting things in /home/var (from another install -removing it) and apt goes oh noes can't get a lock - i look there is no /var/lib - what can i do ?
[06:03] <laughzilla> cool ... thanks bazhang and spdf .. i'll upgrade my libgpod if i can figure out how somehow, as synaptic doesn't offer me 0.6.0 in the menu of options
[06:03] <spdf> laughzilla: http://lilserenity.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/virgin-mobile-praise-ubuntu-and-ipod-nano-3g/
[06:03] <spdf> laughzilla: That's the site I got the packages from. He says to install them in that order, but you need to reverse them.
[06:04] <simonova> soldats: that's simple enough, but I also want to make it capable of opening many different file types.
[06:04] <spdf> laughzilla: Afterwards, it worked perfectly. Just follow the instructions
[06:04] <Luke> i cant connect to my router wirelessly. it used to work. I'm getting this error in my /var/log/messages: http://dpaste.com/33098/
[06:04] <simonova> I'll just write a script that does a bunch of checks on installed programs and make my own conf file, shouldn't be too hard.
[06:04] <laughzilla> spdf - follow the instructions, in reverse order?
[06:05] <laughzilla> ok i'll try it :)
[06:05] <Luke> NetworkManager is terrible
[06:05] <spdf> laughzilla: No, just reverse the the order you install the packages
[06:05] <dbmoodb> mm?
[06:05] <soldats> simonova, well the conf should detect what the extension is and refer it to the app
[06:05] <spdf> laughzilla: libgpod2 before libgpod-dev
[06:06] <dbmoodb> is there a way to get apt to rescan what i have installed given i now have no database for it ?
[06:06] <laughzilla> ah, ok, thanks spdf :)
[06:06] <dbmoodb> ok more error will reinstall (just installed again)
[06:06] <bazhang> dpkg -l should do
[06:07] <dbmoodb> dpkg-query: cannot scan updates directory `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/': No such file or directory
[06:07] <dbmoodb> root@majora:~#
[06:07] <HorizonXP> hey, if there's a package in hardy that I want to use in gutsy, how do I set up apt-get to install it?
[06:07] <simonova> extension detecting isn't the hard part, I just didn't want to hard code in program names, because that would mean if new programs come out that handle the same file type, the source code would need to accommodate.
[06:07] <dbmoodb> see the problem
[06:07] <phuzion> whats that thing you can install where it gives you a bunch of different desktops on a cube?
[06:07] <dbmoodb> !cube
[06:07] <ubotu> Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[06:07] <phuzion> thanks dbmoodb
[06:07] <soldats> simonova, thats why new versions of file managers come out
[06:08] <bazhang> ccsm phuzion
[06:08] <Motorsport3> how do I remove an RSA key on my local computer for a remote computer that I ssh'ed to?
[06:08] <dbmoodb> !ssh revoke
[06:08] <soldats> it should give a list of avaliable apps to use based on what the user wants to use
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ssh revoke - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <dbmoodb> drat
[06:08] <simonova> true... looks like I have a bit of a project
[06:09] <spdf> laughzilla: You won't need to jump through hoops to get it working in hardy though, its all updated
[06:09] <gregorovius> Motorsport3, it's under ~/.ssh/
[06:09] <soldats> simonova, things take time. and they take even more time to be up to date. good luck with it. i really hope it turns out well
[06:09] <laughzilla> spdf - good to know ...
[06:10] <Motorsport3> gregorovius: yes, but I don't know which key is for the remote pc
[06:10] <Motorsport3> the file is encrypted
[06:11] <laughzilla> spdf i should remove my libgpod2 via synaptic before i upgrade it with the files i download via the ftp from that url you showed me, right?
[06:11] <amidaniel> Alright .. I'm having a nightmarish time getting eclipse to work after upgrading to Gutsy. Every time I open a file I get "Unable to create this part due to an internal error ... ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.core.runtime.Plugin"
[06:11] <gregorovius> it's not encrypted, it's just the IDs of the hosts
[06:11] <Ububegin> how do you escape from a cat or less command
[06:11] <amidaniel> Under the plugin manager I've got big red X's next to Eclipse Product SDK and its children
[06:11] <soldats> Ububegin, ctrl+c or q
[06:12] <amidaniel> Have reinstalled .. no help. Disabled subclipse, again no help. Any ideas?
[06:12] <shekhar> hello can someone help me with changing permission for mounted usb volumes so i can read and write using gnome/nautilus
[06:12] <Ububegin> soldats: thanks , q seemes to work
[06:12] <soldats> cool
[06:13] <newb> where can i get WICD?
[06:13] <newb> i tried synaptic
[06:13] <spdf> laughzilla: No need, just install them
[06:14] <bazhang> you have to google for the website newb
[06:14] <Motorsport3> newb, http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[06:14] <laughzilla> cool, thanks spdf i am trying it now
[06:14] <newb> ok...how can i install it?
[06:14] <Shuggle> does anyone here use eclipse?
[06:14] <bazhang> heh
[06:14] <amidaniel> Shuggle: Yes, having issues with it ATM
[06:15] <spdf> newb, they have a repo: deb http://apt.wicd.net gutsy extras
[06:15] <Hemebond> Can anyone remember what the old option name was for having a flat, instead of cube, desktop?
[06:15] <Motorsport3> newb, follow the instructions on the site, http://wicd.sourceforge.net/wiki/doku.php?id=faq#how_do_i_install_wicd
[06:15] <cvd_> Its there any custom area screenshot prog out there? and no the gnome screenshot its not a custom are screenshot
[06:15] <spdf> newb, also take a look at http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php
[06:15] <bazhang> Hemebond: wall
[06:15] <Hemebond> bazhang: Really? Hmm okay.
[06:15] <Shuggle> amidaniel: what problems? is your print button disabled?
[06:16] <snakeyes> could someone direct me to an appropriate chatroom suitable for newbie/recent convert so I can get the skinny on virtualization/emulation for GIS software
[06:16] <snakeyes> ?
[06:16] <Motorsport3> GIS?
[06:16] <bazhang> gis? snakeyes
[06:16] <amidaniel> Shuggle: Hmm ... haven't checked that :) Now that you mention it, yes, it is :)) .. Add that to my list of things that aren't working :))
[06:16] <snakeyes> Geographic Information Systems (like Linux GRASS) but I need to get info on ESRI products
[06:16] <amidaniel> Is there an easy way to downgrade eclipse using apt-get?
[06:17] <Shuggle> amidaniel: yeah. i'm needing to print some code for class, but i have to use another program to print it
[06:17] <bazhang> !info eclipse
[06:17] <ubotu> eclipse (source: eclipse): Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-3ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 125 kB, installed size 412 kB
[06:17] <newb> spdf: thanks man i got that installed...can you offer up any help in making my BCM94311 card work?
[06:17] <bazhang> see above amidaniel
[06:17] <amidaniel> Shuggle: Did you recently upgrade?
[06:17] <amidaniel> bazhang: Um .. yeah, that's not really any help :)
[06:18] <Shuggle> amidaniel: no. i just installed using the "add/remove" program
[06:18] <bazhang> !downgrade | amidaniel
[06:18] <ubotu> amidaniel: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[06:18] <Shuggle> amidaniel: before that i installed the sun java runtime to get jgrasp to work
[06:18] <amidaniel> bazhang: Well, upgrading broke my system. Now I would like to unupgrade
[06:18] <bazhang> amidaniel: likely true for packages as well
[06:19] <amidaniel> (Eclipse is also just one of many things that the upgrade broke.)
[06:19] <Shuggle> amidaniel: have you tried to completely un-install it including the settings programs?
[06:19] <newb> wicd gets stuck at obtaining ip address...
[06:19] <amidaniel> Shuggle: Yup.
[06:19] <spdf> newb, check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=649038
[06:19] <spdf> newb, there's some pointers there
[06:20] <snakeyes> k
[06:20] <Shuggle> amidaniel: odd. all I know is i have 7.10 and installed sun java jdk then eclipse
[06:20] <Shuggle> amidaniel: however, i did not upgrade, jsut install
[06:20] <Shuggle> gtg though
[06:20] <phuzion> how can I get compiz running without needing to have a terminal window open?
[06:21] <amidaniel> Yup, that's my exact setup atm ... Ubuntu 7.10 Eclipse 3.2.2
[06:21] <bazhang> alt f2 phuzion
[06:21] <amidaniel> Completely removing again and reinstalling
[06:22] <EmmerP_> hi
[06:22] <overclucker> phuzion: you could daemonise it(just append a & to the command)
[06:22] <Hemebond> bazhang: I don't think that's it. Or it has changed.
[06:22] <EmmerP> hi again
[06:22] <phuzion> and how do I get it to start at boot?
[06:22] <spdf> EmmerP: Hello
[06:23] <EmmerP> hi spdf
[06:23] <CVD> why nobody tell me about the run import name.png?
[06:23] <Hemebond> bazhang: Desktop wall now just zooms out showing you your desktops.
[06:23] <bazhang> Hemebond: first need to adjust the number of virtual horizontal desktops
[06:23] <EmmerP> anybody usinghibernate?
[06:23] <Hemebond> bazhang: I have 4.
[06:24] <phuzion> hmm, now my top and bottom menubars are gone, wtf
[06:24] <Fanny> Hello
[06:24] <bazhang> Hemebond: 4 = cube ;]
[06:24] <Ademan> xinetd vs inetd, anyone have any experience one way or another?
[06:24] <Fanny> Nice to join
[06:24] <mi> hsize 4 vsize 1 numeber desktop 1
[06:24] <mi> then u get cube
[06:24] <Hemebond> Yeah. In old Compiz/Beryl versions there was an option under the cube settings to flatten the cube.
[06:25] <Hemebond> So when you "rotated" you actually just scrolled left/right.
[06:25] <MrNaz> which ISO do i use for installing on a C2D laptop? just the standard i386 one ?
[06:25] <phuzion> MrNaz, yes
[06:25] <MrNaz> phuzion thanks
[06:25] <phuzion> Yep
[06:26] <phuzion> C2D is still technically i386 architecture
[06:27] <newb> spfd: thanks man that helps alot, now i just need to figure out where to get the b43-fwcutter from
[06:27] <newb> spfd: could you look here and point out to me which one i should download?
[06:27] <spdf> newb: bcm43xx-fwcutter
[06:27] <spdf> newb: its in the universe repo
[06:27] <phuzion> extreme
[06:27] <phuzion> ahhh
[06:27] <newb> spfd: i thought i already have that one and it doesnt work...
[06:28] <phuzion> Ok, Xchat is taking over the entire screen after I enabled compiz, any ideas what to do?
[06:28] <spdf> newb, though, those instructions are for the 2.6.24 kernel :S
[06:29] <mi> http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot5aw9.png
[06:29] <lupos`>  /ban
[06:31] <spdf> newb, there's a link in the first post to another post for updating your kernel as well
[06:31] <spdf> newb, in fact, that link points to a more complete fix for b43 it appears
[06:32] <phuzion> so, no one's got anything for my issue?  Now firefox is doing it on my other desktop, as well
[06:32] <Hemebond> phuzion: What do you mean "taking over"?
[06:33] <newb> spdf: what site is that again? sorry too many open!
[06:33] <novato_br> how can I upgrade my pigding automatically ?
[06:33] <spdf> newb, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=646755
[06:33] <overclucker> phuzion: either restart ubuntu, or restart gdm
[06:33] <phuzion> its fullscreen, and without using alt-tab to get out of it, I can't minimize, or otherwise switch out of the program
[06:33] <shekhar> hello can someone help me with changing permission for mounted usb volumes so i can read and write using gnome/nautilus
[06:33] <phuzion> novato_br, pidgin IM?
[06:33] <novato_br> phuzion, yeah
[06:33] <spdf> phuzion: alt-space to bring up the windows menu
[06:33] <novato_br> phuzion, how can i do that?
[06:33] <spdf> phuzion: can you restore/unmaxmize there?
[06:33] <phuzion> novato_br, sudo apt-get update pidgin
[06:34] <novato_br> great, phuzion
[06:34] <phuzion> spdf, nothing happens with alt-space
[06:34] <Ububegin> hi guys, i ran this command...
[06:34] <Ububegin> sudo ./simple_axis_server 9090
[06:34] <Ububegin> sudo: ./simple_axis_server: command not found  //got this error,but this is clearly present in the directory... anyone knoes
[06:34] <novato_br> but in repo is it pidgin.im is on 2.3.1 version ?
[06:34] <phuzion> Ububegin, have you done chmod a+x simple_axis_server?
[06:34] <Hemebond> Oops.
[06:35] <doktoreas> hello
[06:35] <doktoreas> how can i avoid installing all language while getting one package?
[06:35] <Ububegin> phuzion : no, i will do that... now
[06:35] <spdf> phuzion: Hmm.. Isn't there a "Minimize" plugin for compiz? check the compiz settings
[06:35] <novato_br> phuzion, doesn't working
[06:35] <phuzion> novato_br, sorry, its sudo apt-get install pidgin
[06:35] <spdf> phuzion: I'm just shelled in, so I can't check my desktop.
[06:36] <novato_br> phuzion, i want not to install
[06:36] <novato_br> phuzion, i want upgrade it
[06:36] <Ububegin> phuzion: thanks, at least i get a diff error now....
[06:36] <newb> spdf: so i first have to update my kernel to 2.6.24?
[06:36] <phuzion> novato_br, if it needs updating, install will update it
[06:36] <novato_br> ok
[06:37] <doktoreas> i am installing lyx, but it brings inside all language
[06:37] <Samui> anyone know why GLX would suddenly start crashing X?
[06:37] <doktoreas> i need only italian and english :D
[06:37] <spdf> newb, that's what that particular person has done. The newer kernel includes newer modules for your particular card
[06:37] <Samui> Literally, anything that I run that involves GLX -- glxinfo, glxgears, etc.... would just crash X.
[06:37] <newb> i see...
[06:37] <spdf> novato_br: The version for gutsy is 2.2, hardy has 2.3. There's no backport as far as I can see though
[06:38] <novato_br> i'm not gutsy, spdf
[06:38] <Hemebond> !
[06:38] <Samui> I'm running Kubuntu Gutsy, video card Nvidia GeForce 7300GS.
[06:38] <novato_br> i'm on feisty fawn
[06:38] <Samui> Any input on this is appreciated.
[06:38] <Hemebond> Why does the compiz-compcomm-plugins-main package want to remove compiz?
[06:38] <phuzion> spdf, is it necessary to restart compiz to get the minimize plugin working right or something?
[06:39] <laughzilla> spdf - ok so i did the upgrade according to those instrux and ran rhythmbox again ... now how do i import my mp3 files to the ipod ?  i tried to do "import directory" but it did not add anything as far as i can see, to the rhytmbox list of audio files in the ipod.
[06:39] <phuzion> and yeah, all my programs are missing the top bar now, no title, no minimize, nothing
[06:39] <phuzion> and they're locked in place on my screen
[06:40] <spdf> phuzion: metacity crashed then. You'll ahve to restart X, or ALT-F2, and type in metacity
[06:40] <bazhang> phuzion: open ccsm and check move windows plugin
[06:40] <Hemebond> Isn't it metacity --replace?
[06:40] <Ububegin> phuzion: i think it is a platform error... U have any idea on this error by any chance
[06:40] <Ububegin> ./simple_axis_server: error while loading shared libraries: libaxis_server.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:40] <spdf> Hemebond: If something else is running, I belive
[06:40] <Hemebond> Oh. He has decorations... nvm then.
[06:41] <spdf> laughzilla: You can drag the directory into the rhythmbox window I believe, the add folder worked for me though
[06:41] <phuzion> ok, alt-f2 isn't opening now
[06:41] <phuzion> so, is there a way to do this through terminal?  just metacity &
[06:41] <phuzion> ?
[06:41] <spdf> phuzion: Yeh, that'll work
[06:42] <spdf> phuzion: or add the run command applet to yuor panel
[06:42] <phuzion> ok, it said i need to replace the current window manager
[06:42] <spdf> phuzion: metacity --replace &
[06:42] <phuzion> Ok, I still have no title bar on Xchat
[06:43] <spdf> phuzion: phuzion, hmm.. perhaps you should restart gnome then
[06:43] <phuzion> That would be gdm --restart?
[06:43] <CVD> can i use fat32 in Home?
[06:43] <CVD> for
[06:43] <nickrud> CVD: no
[06:44] <spdf> phuzion: ctrl-alt-backspace'll do it quick and dirty for you, or just log out
[06:44] <nickrud> CVD: not ntfs, either ;)
[06:44] <CVD> ok thanks
[06:45] <brandon__> is there any reason why sound events do not work?
[06:45] <phuzion> ok, I'm back
[06:45] <spdf> phuzion: How's it look now?
[06:45] <phuzion> spdf, everything works
[06:45] <phuzion> at least, as far as I can see
[06:45] <phuzion> let me run some stuff real quick and test it
[06:45] <brandon__> how do you get sound events to work?
[06:45] <phuzion> !ask
[06:46] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:46] <phuzion> er, wrong command
[06:46] <spdf> phuzion: nice, you'll want to make sure some of those plugins are enabled (ie. Resize, Move, Minimize)
[06:46] <brandon__> the login sound works but nothing else
[06:46] <spdf> brandon__: Events for what?
[06:46] <nickrud> brandon__: system->prefs->sounds sounds tab
[06:46] <brandon__> yeah
[06:46] <brandon__> i set them all
[06:46] <brandon__> i can preview
[06:47] <brandon__> but it doesnt take effect
[06:47] <brandon__> other than the login sound
[06:47] <brandon__> i check both boxes at the top
[06:47] <brandon__> and have logged in and out
[06:47] <Ashex> is there somewhere I can poke at copy paste?
[06:47] <spdf> !enter
[06:47] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:47] <Ashex> for some reason why I copy something, I just paste ŸŸ
[06:47] <brandon__> sorry spdf
[06:47] <spdf> np :)
[06:48] <brandon__> i shall learn the , key
[06:48] <spdf> I have to keep my shell window small so I can see whats behind it, so too many lines and I have to page up :P
[06:48] <brandon__> i understand
[06:48] <Ashex> spdf, yakuake?
[06:48] <spdf> Ashex: Sneeze?
[06:48] <laughzilla> spdf  it does not work by dragging the dir to rhythmbox, however, it works by "dragging" the song files themselves from the .mp3 dir on my hdd to the songlist in rhythmbox  !!  and it works !! i'm listening now to one of the songs on the ipod (after having safely disconnected it)  :)  THANK YOU dudes!!!  i appreciate this very much, and i know my friend will be very glad!  :)
[06:48] <Ashex> hehe
[06:48] <phuzion> spdf, ok, what if I want to use animations?  it says that minimize already provides a feature
[06:49] <Ashex> spdf, it's a terminal that hides at the top of the screen, hit a hotkey to have it drop down
[06:49] <spdf> phuzion: Animations takes care of it
[06:49] <bazhang> nice work laughzilla
[06:49] <brandon__> any ideas spdf?
[06:49] <brandon__> on my deal?
[06:49] <phuzion> spdf,  Oh, so its ok to disable minimize?
[06:49] <spdf> Ashex: Using PuTTY
[06:49] <soldats> laughzilla, awesome
[06:49] <spdf> phuzion: Yeh, it replaces it
[06:49] <spdf> laughzilla: There you go man, np
[06:49] <spdf> laughzilla: Took me an afternoon tog et that far, glad I could get you up and running
[06:49] <singlesun> hello everyone, i have a series of questions... i am about to switch over all the computers in my house to ubuntu... however... before doing so, I am concerned about 1 thing, the router that everyone uses is a Belkin wireless G router.. the driver files and installation CD will not run on Ubunutu... is there a solution for this?
[06:50] <singlesun> nickrud, good timing... lol.. you are the #1 problem solver.. lol
[06:50] <spdf> singlesun: You shouldn't need to install any software to use the router
[06:50] <Ububegin> Hey anyone knows ... how could this genre of error usually means
[06:50] <brandon__> singlesun.. dont need it
[06:50] <Ububegin> ./simple_axis_server: error while loading shared libraries: libaxis_server.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ...thanks
[06:50] <phuzion> singlesun, there is more than likely a web based interface that you can use to administrate the router
[06:50] <nickrud> brandon__: I hadn't tried the sound events, but they aren't working here either
[06:50] <Ashex> spdf, ah, ouches
[06:50] <brandon__> nickrud, its kinda weird huh
[06:51] <singlesun> spdf, brandon_, phuzion there is 1 problem, i forgot the password to the router ;)
[06:51] <nickrud> brandon__: yes. I would have sworn I had it working once. Looking for a bug listing ...
[06:51] <spdf> brandon__: I don't use sound events to eb honest, I almost always have music or something playing so its kind of distracting
[06:51] <soldats> singlesun, just do it if it doesnt work which i dont know why it wouldnt a decent linksys wireless is very cheap
[06:51] <spdf> singlesun: Reset it (there's almost always a little pen sized hole on the router)
[06:51] <phuzion> singlesun, then an option is to reset the router
[06:51]  * laughzilla metaphysically emits good karma towards bazhang, soldats, spdf, nickrud, and all others who were so helpful :)
[06:51] <bazhang> haha
[06:51] <brandon__> spdf, yeah, but i just download an awesome sound pack
[06:51] <singlesun> spdf, brandon_, phuzion so i will have to reset the router, and then without being able to use driver software to reconfigure router?
[06:51] <bullgard4> What programming languages besides M4 require to surround identifiers by the quotes `'?
[06:52]  * soldats mentally hugs laughzilla
[06:52]  * nickrud basks in karma
[06:52] <phuzion> singlesun, reset the router, and administrate it from http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:52] <brandon__> <IP_ADDRESS> in your browser... may be differnt for yours though
[06:52] <newb> spdf: so i just have to update my kernel and get the new firmware and it should work?
[06:52] <soldats> you always do that nickrud
[06:52] <soldats> :P
[06:52] <spdf> newb: According to that person's post, thats what they needed to do
[06:52] <phuzion> Ok, so how do I add more desktops, I want an actual cube in Compiz
[06:52] <nickrud> soldats: according to launchpad, I have no karma , it all leaked way
[06:52] <singlesun> phuzion, but I have to connect the router directly to my ethernet port right? to do that?
[06:53] <nickrud> *away
[06:53] <Hemebond> Anyone else remember the name for the option to have a "flat cube" where "rotating" just scrolled along your desktops?
[06:53] <soldats> :(
[06:53] <soldats> i are sorry
[06:53] <newb> spdf: well i updated the kernel and followed his instructions for the firmware update...
[06:53] <spdf> phuzion: Enable the cube and rotate cube plugins
[06:53] <phuzion> singlesun, not necessarily, I can administrate my WRT54G via wifi
[06:53] <newb> spdf; now how can i tell if it worked?
[06:53] <CVD> http://tinyurl.com/yo9jxm
[06:53] <spdf> newb: You followed all of the instructions?
[06:53] <newb> spdf: yeah..
[06:53] <phuzion> spdf, I have those on, I just don't have enough desktops
[06:53] <laughzilla> yeah and fyi the files i copied over were:   The Complete Woodstock  (211 of the 237 known songs)
[06:53] <brandon__> isnt it desktop wall or plane hembond?
[06:53] <spdf> phuzion: Go to the general options
[06:53] <bod_> hey guys, whats the command to take a backup of my system, making sure i DONT backup the media folder (so i dont back up my ohter HD) ?
[06:53] <Hemebond> brandon_: Nope.
[06:54] <spdf> phuzion: Somewhere in there there's the setting for changing the number of horizontal desktops
[06:54] <Ububegin> I just found that this error is due to absence of the library, but libaxis_server.so is present in another folder.... So wats happening...
[06:54] <Ububegin> ./simple_axis_server: error while loading shared libraries: libaxis_server.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ...thanks
[06:54] <newb> spdf: it was a python script...wasnt that hard...
[06:54] <luddite> hello
[06:54] <brandon__> i think if you hold a certain key combo it does it
[06:54] <phuzion> spdf, wow thanks
[06:54] <singlesun> phuzion, hmmm ... so basically reset this thing by unplugging, and holding a pin down in the reset ... then connect to router via IP, and set up as an access point? <-- (and remember password)
[06:54] <doktoreas> anyone knows why texlive package install ALL language support?
[06:54] <spdf> newb: Aight, well, should be good after a restart if you've followed all of the instructions
[06:54] <Hemebond> brandon__: Those are just for moving around. This was (possibly in Beryl) a way of flattening the cube into a continuous series of desktops.
[06:54] <luddite> i used to have a program that you could click that would open up many programs at once(maybe it was a script). Can anyone recall its name?
[06:55] <brandon__> hemebond, no i accidentally did that one time in compiz i believe
[06:55] <bazhang> Hemebond: ctrl alt down arrow
[06:55] <Hemebond> brandon__: By holding down the "initiate" button, I could just drag the mouse left/right to move along the desktops.
[06:55] <phuzion> singlesun, no, don't unplug
[06:55] <brandon__> hemebond, let me check
[06:55] <Ububegin> Seems u guys r busy now.... maybe i will come back later....
[06:55] <Hemebond> bazhang: That unwraps it, but only to left you move windows and then zoom back into a desktop.
[06:55] <bod_> bazhang, try super+e   is another compiz desktop thing
[06:55] <Hemebond> only to *let
[06:55] <Himar> Anyone who can help me with a problem conserning running X on a 7800 Nvidia, with a dual screen, monitor and TV (Can give info if needed)
[06:56] <spdf> I'm a fan of the expo wall myself
[06:56] <Himar> Pmsg
[06:56] <nox-Hand> Installing some software, and I need python-clutter-0.5-0, where there are libclutter-0.5-0, and all the other 0.5-0 packages available in the debian.o-hand.com gutsy/ repo, but just not that single one - anone know where I might find it?
[06:56] <newb> spdf: am i supposed to do the restricted drivers thing now? enable that?
[06:56] <bod_> newb,  yess,. enable it
[06:56] <spdf> newb: I think thats just if you have an nvidia card
[06:56] <singlesun> phuzion, one sec, let me boot up my other computer... you say you can administer the router from another wireless adapter based pc?
[06:56] <phuzion> most likely
[06:56] <phuzion> it really depends on the manufacturer's settings
[06:57] <singlesun> phuzion, well im booting the old tank laptop quick
[06:57] <nickrud> Ububegin: the command can't find the library, try  LD_PATH=/path/to/folder:$LDPATH ./simple-axis-server
[06:57] <bod_> bazhang, do you know the command to take a backup of my system?
[06:57] <spdf> newb, just do the kernel update and then follow the B43 instructions under 'Miscellaneous fixes'
[06:57] <Himar> I have been googling and trying 7 diffrent distroes the last month, but no luck
[06:57] <soldats> normally in the router you can specify if you can access from wifi
[06:57] <Hemebond> In fact! You could even have it zoom out the way you can with the normal cube, which means you then zoomed out to see a strip of desktops you could slide left/right.
[06:57] <Himar> Ubuntu is what is closest
[06:57] <nickrud> Ububegin: /path/to/folder:$LD_PATH that is
[06:57] <Hemebond> Releasing the button zoomed back in/snapped to the focused desktop.
[06:57] <singlesun> soldats, well lets hope it still thinks i can... lol
[06:57] <bazhang> !info rbackup
[06:57] <ubotu> Package rbackup does not exist in gutsy
[06:57] <brandon__> super+e....
[06:58] <bod_> Hemebond, alt+arrowdown    or    super(windows key)+e
[06:58] <brandon__> hemebond
[06:58] <Hemebond> bod_: That's not it.
[06:58] <Himar> Anyone got a Nvidia 7800GTX 512 connected to a HDTV ?
[06:58] <Hemebond> bod_: This was a cube option in previous versions (may have been Beryl).
[06:58] <CVD> checkinstall is good to create .deb?
[06:58] <soldats> singlesun, well old the reset button for like 12 seconds then when you get the passwrod prompt type admin for name and admin for password
[06:58] <luddite> anyone know how to open multiple programs in single click?
[06:58] <bazhang> bod_:  there is info at !backup ;]
[06:58] <bullgard4> What programming languages besides M4 require to surround identifiers by the quotes `'?
[06:58] <Ububegin> nickrud: Gimme a second, lemme digest what you are saying...
[06:58] <Hemebond> bod_: And worked a little differently.
[06:58] <singlesun> soldats, still waiting for laptop to boot, as soon as its up and running i will update ;)
[06:58] <soldats> luddite, with a script its possible
[06:58] <bod_> Hemebond, they are the only two that let you see all 4 desktops as a strip and be able to move them,.,.to my knowledge
[06:58] <newb> spdf: i did follow the instructions....but how do i enable the wireless now?
[06:59] <bod_> bazhang, cheers m8
[06:59] <luddite> soldats: i had it on 7.04, but after upgrade its gone
[06:59] <brandon__> ctrl alt dwn
[06:59] <brandon__> that does it
[06:59] <brandon__> unfold cube
[06:59] <bazhang> np ;]
[06:59] <Ububegin> nickrud: it should be path to folder or file itself
[07:00]  * soldats shrugs shoulders
[07:00] <Hemebond> brandon__: Is it a continuous band of desktops that let you scroll left/right along them?
[07:00] <bazhang> got to work--back in a while
[07:00] <levander> Anyone here run torrentflux?  Is it normal for mysqld_safe to peg one of my CPU cores when I'm running torrentflux?
[07:00] <spdf> newb, the instructions aliased it to eth1. So, using the network manager, you should be able to use eth1 to connect
[07:00] <nickrud> Ububegin: just like commands, libraries have paths. The standard is /usr/local/lib:/usr/lib , the folders that libraries are found in
[07:00] <bod_> brandon__,  i suggested that he said no,.,. maybe it was something beryl had that compiz doesnt?  seems strange
[07:00] <soldats> no clue luddite sounds like a script to me
[07:00] <CVD> why i always hada to use the left ALT and not the Right?
[07:00] <brandon__> yeah
[07:00] <brandon__> hemebond.. that is it
[07:00] <Hemebond> brandon__: It's not.
[07:00] <bod_> Hemebond, it will only have been as many desktops as you have set ,.,. and like we say,. ctrl+alt+arrowdown   super+e    do that
[07:01] <napsy_> hello. Is there a way to run firefox remotely (from ssh) and redirect the video to the local x server (where the ssh daemon resides)?
[07:01] <newb> spdf: yeah that would make sense...now in the network manager tab i have 2 wired connections...no wireless
[07:01] <bazhang> Hemebond: yup that is it
[07:01] <spdf> newb, So, when you boot into the 2.6.24 kernel (the grub menu will have that, and your old 2.6.22 kernel), the b43 module will load up and you should be able to use it
[07:01] <Hemebond> bod_: That's not it. I've been through all the plugins in Compiz Fusion, I don't think it's there at all. This was a Cube plugin option.
[07:01] <brandon__> hemebond, also... if you talented you can press middle mouse button, then alt ctrl down, and scroll with you mouse
[07:01] <singlesun> phuzion, soldats i got a timeout when i tried to connect to the router from my laptop by using <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:01] <soldats> napsy_, with X forwarding its possible but im not fluent in ssh X forwarding
[07:01] <bazhang> going now for real..
[07:02] <soldats> singlesun, try <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:02] <bod_> Hemebond, explain exacty what you think it did,. and what is a cube option,. because its always a cube, so its always a cube option ,.,.although mines a hexagon atm,.,.lol
[07:02] <napsy_> soldats: I don't want to display firefox to my x server
[07:02] <Ububegin> nickrud: whoa, wat a solution... no errors now... but do i have to do this all the time....
[07:02] <singlesun> soldats, trying now
[07:02] <napsy_> i want it to show on the server's x server
[07:02] <brandon__> what kind of router was it?
[07:02] <singlesun> soldats, no luck... should i reset it now?
[07:03] <soldats> try it
[07:03] <Hemebond> bod_: This was an option for the Cube plugin, like "inside cube" that made it flat, also allowing wrap-around, so you could just scroll continuously along your desktops.
[07:03] <singlesun> brandon_, belking wireless G
[07:03] <singlesun> soldats, well lets hope i dont lose connection... if i do... hopefully i will be back.. lol
[07:03] <bod_> Hemebond, 1 sec,.,.checking now
[07:03] <soldats> youll lose connection but just come back
[07:04] <bod_> Hemebond, in the Cube plugin there is an unfold cube ?
[07:04] <Hemebond> bod_: I don't believe it's available in Compiz Fusion; but if I can remember the name of the option perhaps I can find it somewhere else. Perhaps in another plugin not included in the Ubuntu package.
[07:04] <soldats> napsy_, afaik its possible but im not fluent with it sorry
[07:04] <Hemebond> bod_: Yeah, but that just unwraps the cube to let you pick a desktop.
[07:04] <brandon__> singlesun.. model?
[07:05] <Hemebond> bod_: And move windows about, then select a desktop to zoom back into.
[07:05] <nickrud> Ububegin: you can create an alias in ~/.bashrc for that:  alias sas="LD_PATH ..... /path/to/simple-axis-server" or add the folder path to /etc/ld.so.conf.d/simple-axis-server (create the file) , that's where library paths are defined. If you decide to do the second, run sudo ldconfig after adding the new file
[07:05] <spdf> singlesun: Check your ip with ifconfig, change the last number to 1, and try
[07:05] <newb> spdf: so i can choose which kernel to boot into? or it will auto boot into 2.6.24?
[07:06] <spdf> newb: hit esc when it comes up with the grub messaeg, you'll get a menu, select 2.6.24
[07:06] <bod_> Hemebond, if this plugin was in beryl, that means its probably either already in compiz or is compatible,. you could *theoreticly* package the plugin from an old version of beryl then add it as an extra plugin to compiz
[07:06] <newb> spdf: while its booting?