[16:41] <ikonia> timothy: there is nothing (that I'm aware of) that you can't do using the proper tools that ubuntu tweak can do
[16:42] <timothy> lol
[16:42] <edbian> ikonia: of course there's nothing! The proper tools are the most powerful tools :)
[16:42] <Zoffix> Hey all. I asked about this last week, but still haven't found a solution. When I render a video using PiTiVi, it adds a lot of black space around the actual video. Even when I set the export dimensions to be the same as that of the video itself it adds black stuff around it. How to make it export without adding anything; just the size of the video frame?
[16:42] <waperboy> haven't performed update for ages, afraid it will break my personal modifications like keyboard mappings etc. Is this fear unfounded?
[16:42] <timothy> but then again linux is not about having the most updated version of software
[16:43] <ikonia> waperboy: depends what's changed between versions
[16:43] <zul__> could anybody help me to install ruby 3.1 in my ubuntu.. I'ha any problems
[16:43] <egoga> How do I make a CIL image for an executable
[16:43] <Zoffix> waperboy, last time I did an update, it killed Quanta and KDevelop - the two editors I use for work.. I avoid updates like plague now :}
[16:43] <[SPSU]Zach> i have downloaded the iso file at least 7 different times and every time i checksum it it says it doesn't match
[16:43] <kristopher> ubuntu tweak is the dummies way for editing it will eddit and change with a press of a button instead of you doing it urself but if ubuntu tweak isnt on par with the latestet updates it could make things unstable
[16:44] <Zoffix> waperboy, by "killed" I mean that quanta started freezing for 5 minutes on file saves, and I forget what was wrong with KDevelop, but I couldn't use it anymopre.
[16:44] <egoga> I said HOW DO I MAKE A CIL IMAGE FOR AN EXECUTABLE
[16:44] <cxxc> if it aint broke dont fix it
[16:44] <ikonia> egoga: you can start by not using caps
[16:44] <theadmin> egoga: Be patient, don't caps.
[16:45] <timothy> hey how do you run a ".run" file or a ".bin"
[16:45] <egoga> I typed mono file.exe and it said: Cannot open assembly '/home/egoga/file.exe': File does not contain a valid CIL image.
[16:45] <egoga> You type: sh file.bin
[16:45] <theadmin> egoga: That's nonsense
[16:46] <theadmin> timothy: chmod +x whatever.run ; ./whatever.run
[16:46] <egoga> or ./file.bin... in Google Earth's case, you will have to run and install googleearth-package*.deb to turn it into a dpkg
[16:46] <theadmin> egoga: .bin files are most usually not shellscripts, so sh won't work
[16:46] <timothy> do i need to cd to the directory first?
[16:46] <theadmin> timothy: Well, duh
[16:46] <[THC]AcidRain> lol
[16:46] <E3D3> what is the use of mounting archives like rar & zip ?
[16:46] <Zoffix> timothy, not necessarily.
[16:47] <Zoffix> timothy,   runing:     some/directory/file  will run it
[16:47] <egoga> If I downloaded a 19 year old ROM, at http://megaupload.com/?d=XFW6UA3A, would it be illegal?  When do copyrights expire
[16:47] <timothy> ok
[16:47] <LjL> egoga: it would be illegal
[16:47] <theadmin> egoga: Wrong channel for this.
[16:47] <[SPSU]Zach> someone suggested that i torrent the iso and the checksums are still differnt. :(
[16:47] <ikonia> egoga: and nothing to do with this channel
[16:47] <egoga> ij]
[16:47] <ikonia> egoga: thie channels for ubuntu discusion, can you please stick to that
[16:47] <egoga> I'll rubbity dig dag assa coon thank you
[16:47] <kristopher> Patents don't last long but copyrights do
[16:48] <theadmin> ikonia: This channel is for support, not discussion
[16:48] <theadmin> egoga: ^
[16:48] <theadmin> ikonia: Or you'll confuse em
[16:48] <timothy> chmod: cannot access `Qt_SDK_Lin64_online_v1_1_3_en.run': No such file or directory
[16:48] <timothy> gave me that error ^^
[16:48] <[THC]AcidRain> kristopher, please take your patents/copyrights discussion to #off-topic
[16:48] <ikonia> theadmin: you're not in the same directory
[16:48] <kristopher> chances are the copyright is still in effect but at the age of 19 i wouldnt worry as its probably not enforced well by the owner
[16:48] <ikonia> fair enough
[16:48] <[THC]AcidRain> thanks ;)
[16:48] <kristopher> sry
[16:48] <theadmin> ikonia: Sorry?
[16:48] <theadmin> timothy: You need to cd to the file location
[16:48] <Zoffix> heh
[16:49] <ikonia> theadmin: sorry, that was for timothy
[16:49] <Zoffix> There's more noise from people telling what not to do than from the actual guy :}
[16:49] <timothy> ok
[16:49] <[THC]AcidRain> kristopher, believe me, you dont want the admins gripin at you just because you said a few off topic helpful things. lol
[16:51] <timothy> it doesnt work...
[16:51] <ikonia> theadmin: what's the error
[16:51] <theadmin> ikonia: There you go again >.< Could you please type "ti" before tabbing him?
[16:51] <timothy>  chmod +x chmod: cannot access `Qt_SDK_Lin64_online_v1_1_3_en.run': No such file or directory
[16:51] <ikonia> theadmin: sorry
[16:51] <ikonia> timothy: what's the error
[16:51] <timothy>  chmod +x chmod: cannot access `Qt_SDK_Lin64_online_v1_1_3_en.run': No such file or directory
[16:51] <ikonia> timothy: ls -la Qt_SDK_Lin64_online_v1_1_3_en.run
[16:51] <timothy> thank you illtry that
[16:52] <dr_willis> check your spelling timothy  , use tab to complete the file name. :)
[16:52] <timothy> ok
[16:52] <timothy> ok it didnt give me an error whats the next step
[16:52] <timothy> what does ls -la do?
[16:52] <dr_willis> run it :) ./whatever
[16:53] <timothy> ok
[16:53] <jiohdi> ls = list
[16:53] <dr_willis> ls -la shows the file details. You might want to spend a bit of time reasing some bash tutoruals timothy
[16:53] <Zoffix> Here's what my video looks like once rendered: http://zoffix.com/new/del/Screenshot1.png   But all the frames in the clips I'm combining are originally sized at 848x480... why is PiTiVi adding all that black stuff around it? :(
[16:53] <organiks> is ubuntu 11.04 64bit only for amd?
[16:53] <LjL> organiks: no
[16:53] <FoxtrotZero> Perhaps someone can help me? I tried to install Ubuntu (with the Windows installer) which idn't give me any trouble, but I can't figure out how to start my computer using Ubuntu... There is no menu screen on startup, like the install page illustrates
[16:53] <dr_willis> organiks:  No.
[16:54] <organiks> k
[16:54] <kristopher> you can use ubuntu 64 bit with any 64 bit machine i run it on my netbook they only use the word amd since they developed it off amd
[16:54] <LjL> Foxmaster: the Windows installer, if by that you mean Wubi, will not let you boot directly from Ubuntu. there will be an icon in Windows' Start menu, i think
[16:54] <kristopher> and amd is more famous for 64bit computing
[16:54] <timothy> it just told me that it is a directory after running ./ ls -la Qt_SDK_Lin64_online_v1_1_3_en.run
[16:54] <timothy> without the ls and -la
[16:54] <timothy> so ./Qt_SDK_Lin64_online_v1_1_3_en.run
[16:55] <Zoffix> timothy, yeah
[16:55] <organiks> thnx
[16:55] <FoxtrotZero> LjL: Nothing new in my start menu. It's another operating system, isn't the concept that I can start the computer running it?
[16:55] <Zoffix> timothy, type: "./Qt" then press TAB key to complete the filename. You're likely misspelling
[16:55] <Parsind> why not 128 ?
[16:55] <LjL> FoxtrotZero: not if you install it from Windows
[16:55] <FoxtrotZero> Well, crap.
[16:55] <garo> the default kernel has aufs modules but no unionfs, is aufs the way to go now ?
[16:55] <LjL> FoxtrotZero: you must install it from the live CD for that
[16:55] <FoxtrotZero> LjL: So the windows version is like running Ubuntu INSIDE Windows?
[16:55] <timothy> tab didnt do anything
[16:56] <Parsind> AMD 128?
[16:56] <Zoffix> timothy, then type "ls"  and see if the file is in there at all...
[16:56] <LjL> FoxtrotZero: i can't say i'm very familiar with it, but it is at least started from within Windows, and it uses a file on your Windows HD as its "virtual hard drive"
[16:56] <timothy> it is
[16:56] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i determine what group a certain user is in from command line?
[16:56] <timothy> i see a .bin files
[16:56] <organiks> when i ssh into a box how can i get it to output what i type on the screen? or if i ever close the terminal can i pull it back up and then use 'screen'?
[16:56] <timothy> file*
[16:57] <kristopher> organiks: I would always go 64bit even on my netbook lol but it isnt really needed unless you run more than 4gigs of ram but yeah it will work with any 64 bit chip keep in mind files are bigger on 64 bit and ubuntu will turn updates out faster for 32bit
[16:57] <LjL> FoxtrotZero: oh, i'm being told the option to start Ubuntu is probably in the Windows boot menu, accessible by pressing F8 if i remember correctly
[16:57] <Phoenix87> re
[16:57] <Zoffix> timothy, ok, then try: "chmod +x Qt" and then press TAB to complete the filename...
[16:57] <dr_willis> FoxtrotZero:  wubi makes a special boot menu item to boot to the Ubuntu Wubi install.   I dont reccomend using wubi.
[16:57] <FoxtrotZero> LjL: Alright then, so is it possible to install in such that when I start my computer, I have the option of running Win- Oh, alright.
[16:57] <FoxtrotZero> LjL: Why do you not reccomend Wubi?
[16:57] <organiks> thnx kris
[16:57] <fester-> I'd like remove tty23456, but i can't locate inittab
[16:58] <dr_willis> Wubi is often problematic from  the # of probolems with it i see in here on a weekly basis.
[16:58] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: groups USERNAME
[16:58] <dr_willis> fester-:  look in /etc/init
[16:58] <dr_willis> !upstart | fester-
[16:58] <organiks> so what if i run less than 4gigs of ram?
[16:58] <LjL> FoxtrotZero: i didn't say i don't recommend it... but well, it seems much saner to me to install it as another OS alongside Windows. the whole your-hard-drive-being-really-a-Windows-file thing doesn't sound too good to me, at the very least it will impact speed
[16:58] <timothy> .. i already tried no sucess
[16:58] <fester-> ok
[16:58] <dr_willis> !runlevel
[16:58] <FoxtrotZero> LjL: Sorry, that was dr_willis
[16:59] <FoxtrotZero> LjL: But yeah, that makes sense
[16:59] <kristopher> organiks if u run less than 4 gigs of ram and have no intent of exceeding it 32bit is fine if you have intent to expand passed 4 gigs id go the 64 bit route
[16:59] <dr_willis> and i rarely see any wubi problems actually fixed.  - the people tend to have to reinstall or get sick of it and do a normal install.
[16:59] <The_BROS> Are there any methods to transfer files by Pidgin?
[16:59] <kristopher> if your chip supports 64 bit
[17:00] <FoxtrotZero> LjL: So it's possible - and I'm sure I know the answer - to install Ubuntu alongside Windows such that when I start my computer, I can select either Windows or Ubuntu?
[17:00] <Zoffix> FoxtrotZero, yes, I have it right on this box
[17:00] <dr_willis> FoxtrotZero:  thats now it normally works.
[17:01] <kristopher> everyones diff i like 64 bit on my netbook just beacause i have a 64bit chip but i dont really need it since i can only have 2gbs of ram in it on my desktop another story
[17:01] <Zoffix> FoxtrotZero, I first installed windows, then I installed ubuntu into a separate drive (you can also use a separate partition).
[17:01] <dr_willis> FoxtrotZero:  if you did a  wubi install , somthing must have messed up.
[17:02] <Zoffix> FoxtrotZero, a word of learned advice: don't trying to install Vista along with your existing files.. I told it not to touch my ubuntu partition, and it deleted it anyway. I think maybe it has some anti-Linux code :)
[17:03] <kristopher> yeah best way install windows then linux. they are anti-linux lol ms silverlight but i doubt they intended to delete a partition
[17:03] <FoxtrotZero> dr_willis The install was interrupted for a reason I don't understand the first time, which caused my computer to spontaneously restart. Multitasking isn't a good idea. When the computer came back on, I reopened the wubi installer, and it said something about deleting the old installaion.
[17:03] <dr_willis> FoxtrotZero:   sounds like you need to reinstall wubi.
[17:03] <dr_willis> or do a normal install.
[17:03] <Zoffix> Haha, I solved my problem :) I needed to go to Project -> Project Settings and then set the size of the project to my intended output size... Then it's fine *phew* :)
[17:04] <[SPSU]Zach> i download ubuntu lots of times and the checksum is always different help plz!
[17:04] <FoxtrotZero> dr_willis Already tried that, but yeah, i'm going with the normal install.
[17:04] <FoxtrotZero> Zoffix: I assure you I have no intention of doing that. I really only need to keep my copy of XP around (thats right, i'm on an at least five year old machine) for my computer-illiterate grandparents.
[17:04] <dr_willis> [SPSU]Zach:  use the torrent it can verify the files. :)
[17:04] <[SPSU]Zach> i did :(
[17:04] <[SPSU]Zach> still
[17:04] <Zoffix> [SPSU]Zach, maybe the checksum you got is wrong :)
[17:04] <LjL> FoxtrotZero: sure, the normal install from the live CD automatically shrinks your Windows partition (though a backup is advised, of course), and then recognizes your Windows install and lets you select at boot
[17:04] <dr_willis> [SPSU]Zach:  clarify how you are checking the sums perhaps..
[17:05] <[SPSU]Zach> i am using winMd5sum
[17:06] <dr_willis> Dosent the cd's have some verify item in their menus? you could boot the iso in vbox and have it verify :)
[17:06] <dr_willis> but with the torrents, your torrent client should also verify the data.
[17:07] <FoxtrotZero> LjL: Is it possible for me to create a third partition (my computer came with a D:/ partition for 'system restore') in which I install Ubuntu, and Windows and Ubuntu basically leave each other alone?
[17:07] <mang0> I'm using awn dock, is there a way to remove the "avant window navigator" launcher on the left of the dock?
[17:07] <LjL> FoxtrotZero: yeah, should be done automatically in that case too. but you do have the option (the installer asks you) to set up the partitions manually, as well
[17:07] <dr_willis> FoxtrotZero:  you can have a large # of parittions. but you can only have 4 primary parittions.  thats often an issue on new machines. the win7  setups often are using all 4 primaries to begin with
[17:07] <[SPSU]Zach> i got the last download frome something like ubuntutracker.com or linuxtracker or something
[17:07] <Myrtti> mang0: right click it...
[17:07] <[SPSU]Zach> and i opened it in utorrent
[17:08] <[SPSU]Zach> and it said it was checking it or somehting
[17:08] <[SPSU]Zach> it downloaded really fast
[17:08] <dr_willis> have utorrent double check it. and be sure you got the right md5sum file to get the sum from.
[17:08] <Curseorange> Looking for a slightly experience ubuntu user to assist me in downloading something
[17:08] <dr_willis> Curseorange:  a little more detail would be helpfull. :)
[17:08] <FoxtrotZero> dr_willis: Well i'm running Win XP Media Center SP3, so I doubt that's an issue.
[17:08] <mang0> Myritti....and...."Dock preferances" "Quit" and "About awn"
[17:09] <dr_willis> FoxtrotZero:  fire up gparted and partition how you want then. :)
[17:09] <[SPSU]Zach> how do i know if im using the right checksum?
[17:09] <[SPSU]Zach> and how do i get utorrent to check the sum
[17:09] <dr_willis> !md5
[17:09] <FoxtrotZero> dr_willis: Partitions are new to me. The hell is gparted?
[17:10] <dr_willis> the sums are in a file on  the fileservers,  has a list of files and the sum.. how were you checking the sums if you dident know what sum to check against? :)
[17:10] <dr_willis> !info gparted
[17:10] <FoxtrotZero> LjL: Also, how much space is required for this install? I have a 2GB flash drive, and some 700MB CDRs, but that's it. Am I going to be able to do this?
[17:10] <LjL> FoxtrotZero: a partition editor. anyway if you already have 2 partitions, you've got just enough room for Ubuntu (since Ubuntu normally requires two partitions, its main one and the one for swap / virtual memory)
[17:10] <kristopher> gparted is a nice tool it should come factory with ubuntu download from ubuntu softwarecenter it allows u to manage partitions and formate drives and removeablemedia
[17:10] <edbian> FoxtrotZero: yep (you only need either 1 CD or 1 usb drive)
[17:10] <edbian> FoxtrotZero: partitions are just divisions of the hdd
[17:10] <dr_willis> FoxtrotZero:  you can put the iso on the 2gb flash and boot the flash..   you will want a few gb on the hd to install to.
[17:10] <GOMI> what does it mean if a webcam gives a GREY screen ???
[17:10] <FoxtrotZero> Edbian: Yeah, thanks. I know what a partition is, but nothing about dealing with them.
[17:10] <GOMI> first it was black now grey
[17:11] <edbian> GOMI: it's foggy
[17:11] <edbian> hahahah
[17:11] <organiks> when i ssh into a box how can i get it to output what i type on the box screen?
[17:11] <LjL> FoxtrotZero: you need to burn Ubuntu to one CD, and that's it
[17:11] <edbian> FoxtrotZero: gparted let's you deal with them
[17:11] <FoxtrotZero> dr_willis: I have well over 130GB free, so no worries there
[17:11] <GOMI> edbian, am serious
[17:11] <dr_willis> organiks:  one way  use screen, and open a term on the box and have screen show the session.
[17:11] <GOMI> edbian, do you know or are you playing
[17:11] <edbian> GOMI: googling...
[17:11] <FoxtrotZero> Alright gentlemen, my friend is bugging me to play Minecraft, so i'll attempt this later, and consult you if I run into trouble.
[17:11] <FoxtrotZero> Farewell.
[17:12] <GOMI> edbian, am googleing for two weeks now ...
[17:12] <edbian> GOMI: I'm guessing, since I've never heard of this before.  Something is physically blocking the webcam
[17:12] <naftilos76> hi, is there a good video converter for gnome like k9copy?
[17:12] <dr_willis> I have a broken webcam on my laptop. :( loose cable or somthing.
[17:12] <dr_willis> naftilos76:  k9copy works in gnome.
[17:12] <organiks> dr_willis: what is screen - option to use
[17:12] <dr_willis> !info screen
[17:13] <naftilos76> i know that, but is there a GTK based app?
[17:13] <soreau> GOMI: I'd guess a webcam driver bug or that the webcam cant handle the lumens entering it's lens
[17:13] <dr_willis> organiks:  detatch/reatch the session where you want it.
[17:13] <cappy__> Hi folks I'm having trouble getting the sound to work on an old pc with xubuntu installed. the card is recognised and the driver is loaded but there's just no sound coming out of the speakers. can anyone suggest a solution
[17:13] <Tharlinn> i have weird extra drives showing up in my fdisk -l. how can i get rid of those? here a pastebin of fdisk -l http://pastebin.com/KCwR4vL4
[17:13] <organiks> k
[17:13] <The_BROS> How to create shortcut to Panel if I have portable Windows program?
[17:14] <Curseorange> Would someone be kind enough to assist me in downloading a program using the terminal, just need someone who can answer questions so i can learn what im doing as i get this done.
[17:14] <LjL> Curseorange: what do you need to download
[17:14] <soreau> Curseorange: What program?
[17:14] <Curseorange> I am downloading tor through my terminal
[17:15] <kristopher> lol sound that was everyones problem back in the day with linux, check for proprietary drivers first in system settings additional hardware and makes sure your using latest version of ubuntu
[17:15] <naftilos76> anybody? a good video converter GTK based for gnome?
[17:15] <soreau> !info tor | Curseorange
[17:15] <LjL> Curseorange: it's in the repositories, so you just need to type "sudo apt-get install tor"
[17:15] <soreau> Curseorange: sudo apt-get install tor
[17:15] <edbian> soreau: hi
[17:15] <soreau> edbian: hey
[17:16] <cappy__> I've done all that, I've loaded the Nvidia gfx drivers and the Bcm43xx wireless drivers, they are the only two proprietry drivers available
[17:16] <Curseorange> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:16] <Curseorange> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:16] <soreau> ! sound | cappy__
[17:16] <LjL> Curseorange: are you already running Synaptic, the Software Center, or something like that?
[17:16] <edbian> Curseorange: you have a second package manager running
[17:16] <Curseorange> oooop
[17:16] <edbian> cappy__: What are you trying to get working?
[17:16] <Curseorange> my drivers
[17:16] <Curseorange> More likely
[17:17] <soreau> Curseorange: Not more likely..
[17:17] <kristopher> lol sound that was everyones problem back in the day with linux, check for proprietary drivers first in system settings additional hardware and makes sure your using latest version of ubuntu. if nothing go into sound preferences make sure everything is selected as it should be.
[17:17] <soreau> Curseorange: You have another process running that is using the package management system
[17:18] <cappy__> I've checked the sound volume aplet and used sudo alsamixer I've also followed ALL steps @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[17:18] <soreau> cappy__: There's no reason to run alsamixer as root. Dont do it
[17:18] <kristopher> orca maybe lol what type of sound card do you have any info on it
[17:19] <kristopher> ?
[17:19] <soreau> cappy__: What chipset is it as reported by the output of lspci?
[17:19] <cappy__> Its an integrated via82xx
[17:19] <cappy__> Its an integrated on an asus motherboard
[17:20] <kristopher> sry i laugh since i had this problem when i first used linux years ago its correctable
[17:20] <kristopher> googleing
[17:21] <nathanel> th0r: the dude in #bash is unfortunately being very unhelpful... i'm really sorry for being a beginner at this
[17:21] <cappy__> lspci reports  00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[17:21] <cappy__> I've been googlin this for 3 days
[17:21] <soreau> ! pm | Curseorange
[17:21] <Curseorange> ok soreau mind explaining what i need to do?
[17:22] <Curseorange> im trying to learn linux and i like to know steps and what they accomplish
[17:22] <soreau> Curseorange: You have something else running that's using the package manager like software center, synaptic package manager or apt
[17:22] <cappy__> well Kristopher? anything else to add?
[17:22] <organiks> looking to output screen on the box i ssh in to, anyone know?
[17:22] <Curseorange> i was updating some drivers through additional drivers
[17:23] <Curseorange> would that have done it
[17:23] <kristopher> yeah i have a fix that worked on centos using hda intel
[17:23] <soreau> yes
[17:23] <Curseorange> thought so
[17:23] <Curseorange> let me attempt to install it again
[17:23] <kristopher> let me double check and see if i can get u the steps
[17:23] <cappy__> thanks
[17:23] <Curseorange> E: Invalid operation tor
[17:24] <soreau> cappy__: I thought you said it was via, not hda intel
[17:24] <nathanel> question: how can i enumerate, read and write all hdd devices to fstab to mount them automatically on boot
[17:24] <cappy__> that's true
[17:24] <cappy__> 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[17:24] <soreau> Curseorange: You typed the wrong command
[17:24] <soreau> Curseorange: sudo apt-get install tor
[17:24] <the_owl> hello
[17:24] <Curseorange> Ahh okay
[17:25] <Curseorange> ok i installed it
[17:25] <Curseorange> how do i run it?
[17:25] <soreau> cappy__: In alsamixer, does it show everything is unmuted? (m) and you have the right card selected? (f6)
[17:25] <kristopher> yeah im still looking someone reported success with a via card and a hda intel driver
[17:25] <soreau> Curseorange: No idea, this was your deal ;)
[17:25] <dr_willis> Curseorange:  with tor. you shold be checking the docs at the tor homepage.
[17:25] <dr_willis> and the ubuntu tor wiki page.
[17:25] <soreau> Curseorange: Maybe try tor --help or even 'man tor'
[17:25] <Curseorange> see
[17:25] <Curseorange> i have been too pampered with a gui
[17:26] <LjL> Curseorange: i think it'll be started automatically at boot
[17:26] <Guest24672> hey is there a way I can get my xubuntu to read what I type faster?
[17:26] <Guest24672> there is always a lag and half the stuff I type gets lost
[17:26] <LjL> Curseorange: the usual suggestion was to run "privoxy" with tor, which creates a proxy server for you to use in web browsers
[17:26] <[SPSU]Zach> does winmd5sum work?
[17:26] <cappy__> soreau: let me just check, I'm also going to pastebin a lot of info I got from a script I ran on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting. thanks for the help so far, I'll be back
[17:26] <Curseorange> Well id like to have a chat with someone as i read these things because i have alot of questions
[17:26] <dr_willis> [SPSU]Zach:  i dont see why it wouldent work,
[17:27] <Curseorange> which is why i wanted a priv with someone to not bug the channel
[17:27] <ordicollege> coucou
[17:27] <[SPSU]Zach> every time i download the iso
[17:27] <dr_willis> Curseorange:  start with reading the tor docs..
[17:27] <[SPSU]Zach> the sums are different
[17:27] <soreau> Curseorange: Does 'ps ax|grep tor|grep -v grep' show anything?
[17:27] <LjL> Curseorange: the channel is here to be bugged, as long as they're ubuntu questions
[17:27] <dr_willis> [SPSU]Zach:  you sum the same file twice in a row and it gets a diffent sum>
[17:27] <dr_willis> >
[17:28]  * soreau points at > dr_willis
[17:28] <nathanel> hello again: I am trying to enumerate all the hdd devices on my machine automatically, how do i do so through terminal?
[17:28] <Fuchs> nathanel: fdisk -l should list them, or what exactly do you want to do?
[17:28] <Fuchs> udisks might be a possibility as well
[17:29] <Fuchs> as in: udisks --enumerate
[17:29] <nathanel> Fuchs: i am trying to write  ascript to query the device(s) information (UUID TYPE LABEL) and write info to fstab for automatic mount on startup
[17:29] <cappy__> soreau: I'm sure I have the correct card selected, I'm going to hit pastebin and report back. thanks!
[17:30] <[SPSU]Zach> i figured it out
[17:30] <Fuchs> nathanel: there are better ways to automount, however, if you still want to do it: both possibilities I named will probably do
[17:30] <[SPSU]Zach> you have to manually copy the md5sum from ubuntu website and paste in the cmopare thing
[17:30] <nathanel> Fuchs: I already have the different blkid commands to do so but i would like to generalize and loop it for all /dev/sdX devices connected
[17:30] <[SPSU]Zach> then compare
[17:30] <[SPSU]Zach> :S
[17:32] <nathanel> Fuchs: example: UUID=dd2424a3-3305-416c-8add-e9b160784716 /media/Backup ext4 defaults 0 0
[17:32] <cappy__> soreau: http://pastebin.com/ASSuKVJg this contains alot of info on the card, please take a look
[17:34] <kristopher> big help
[17:34] <nathanel> Fuchs: udisks --enumerate seems to be going well... but how can i specifiy a string lookup for devices in   "sd*" format
[17:34] <edafgaf> hello guys, im new to ubuntu and i made an install, all my components are detected with the exception of the webcam, is there anything i can do about it?
[17:35] <Fuchs> nathanel: udisks --enumerate-device-files   with some grep
[17:36] <soreau> cappy__: Are you sure that audio card works? Has it ever worked?
[17:37] <nathanel> Fuchs: can i restric to parttions only?
[17:37] <nathanel> restrict*
[17:37] <cappy__> soreau: it was working about 4 years ago, I haven't used the system since then. I couldn't really tell without installing xp but it only has 256 megs of ram so I think that would be dificult not to mention a pain in the arse
[17:37] <zykotick9> nathanel, you really should try to migrate away from using /dev/sdX# as these can change, using UUID or LABELS is preferred for "most" uses
[17:38] <soreau> cappy__: Can you show the output of 'lspci -nn|grep audio'? Specifically, vendor/product id numbers at the end in the format xxxx:xxxx
[17:38] <cappy__> will do 1 sec
[17:38] <nathanel> Fuchs: thats exactly what i want to do...  i want to enumerate all devices and query their uuid, type and label to cat to fstab
[17:39] <cappy__> soreau: 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller [1106:3059] (rev 50)
[17:39] <Fuchs> nathanel: well, you could cut off the last part of the --enumerate, or the first column of fdisk -l
[17:39] <cappy__> can't see any product id's there, sorry
[17:40] <zykotick9> cappy__, it's the [1106:3059] number
[17:40] <kristopher> cappy im still looking for you but try this for now this wiix it but youll have to go to work in terminal your pastebin is a big help leave open in another window when looking at this documentation https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[17:40] <cappy__> zykotick9: oh yeah , duh
[17:42] <nathanel> Fuchs: I get it, but ow do i repeat? loop?
[17:42] <soreau> cappy__: How are you testing the audio?
[17:42] <kristopher> ur not the first with this kind of error some users reported and adjustmnet in alsa and said it was a easy fix after they tore up the system others said they had to do some work so lets not give up on it take a look at that doc ill look for a streamlined fix
[17:42] <Fuchs> nathanel: for i in <command>; do <something with $i>; done
[17:42] <nathanel> Fuchs: thank you
[17:42] <cappy__> soreau: I was using the command aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[17:42] <Fuchs> nathanel: you can use readline or so
[17:43] <cristi> y need a way to find this  "color = (0.47,0.47,0.47,1)" , how to define them etc
[17:43] <soreau> cristi: It's in the format RGBA, red, green, blue, alpha
[17:43] <soreau> cristi: It's probably a medium gray
[17:44] <cappy__> soreau: and aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Left.wav
[17:44] <cappy__> soreau: and youtube
[17:44] <cristi> ooooo , thank you , this its all y need
[17:44] <savid> How can I get ls to sort "_" and "." files first by default?
[17:45] <soreau> cappy__: Not sure really.. maybe try the tips at the end here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/165399 comments #3 and #4
[17:45] <kumaran> hkghk
[17:46] <savid> ah, nm, found it..  LC_COLLATE=C.
[17:46] <cappy__> soreau: thnks man, I'm stumped also, I think i'll just fork out for a cheapy usb snd card and be done with it. thanks for your efforts though, you too kristopher
[17:46] <zykotick9> savid, hey that's kinda neat, thanks
[17:46] <soreau> cappy__: It's very possible the sound card just does not work, even though everything appears fine in software
[17:47] <soreau> cappy__: The first thing I'd do is try to verify the hardware is good
[17:47] <soreau> cappy__: Possibly an ancient version of ubuntu if you have one lying about
[17:47] <cappy__> soreau: yeah I was starting to think that, how would I do that do you think?
[17:47] <soreau> cappy__: Any way you can :)
[17:48] <carrefour> slt
[17:48] <cappy__> soreau: gotchya thanks again.
[17:48] <kristopher> cappy take a look at the doc and your pastebin they refer to ur hardware as an example in some places which means its a known issue that is correctable
[17:48] <soreau> cappy__: no problem, let us know what you find
[17:49] <cappy__> Kristopher: I'll do that.
[17:49] <organiks> was wondering if i ssh in to a box can i get that box to output or mirror what i type into terminal?
[17:49] <kristopher> when ur following the steps ur pastebin will fill in the blanks
[17:50] <zykotick9> organiks, you can copy paste the commands, what you're asking sounds like "puppet" which is some big piece of software to perform the same commands on multiple machines (probably WAY more complex then what you're looking for - though I've never even tried to play with puppet so can't say for sure)
[17:52] <ubuntuusr> hello can i clone usb stick on ubuntu
[17:53] <kristopher> you can also  try replacing with oss open sound system or orca it worked in the past but i belive orca is a trial worked for me on early release id leave it as a last resort tho
[17:54] <HelloWorld321> for Derby, do I install sun-java6-javadb or sun-javadb-common or both?
[17:55] <ubuntuusr> hello can i clone usb stick on ubuntu
[17:57] <jxshxx> Need help shutting off extras that are making Natty run slower than Lucid on an old laptop.
[17:58] <ubuntuusr> hello can i clone usb stick on ubuntu
[17:58] <organiks> zykitick9 i was looking just to have the session output results on the ssh box
[17:58] <kristopher> jxshxx at login best bet is to switch ubuntu classic
[17:58] <thrillERboy> ubuntuusr: why not copy paste :/
[17:58] <kristopher> drops unity but will give u a boost in performance
[17:59] <zykotick9> ubuntuusr, of course check out the "dd" command for starters - it "might" be as simple as "dd if=/dev/sdX of=yourimage.img" but you may need more!  Good luck.
[17:59] <jxshxx> kristopher: I've made that change, but looking for more options as it's still slow.  Other ideas?
[17:59] <anewguest> hi
[17:59] <kristopher> how long has your os been installed
[18:00] <zykotick9> !tab > organiks
[18:00] <kristopher> time will help as it settels in
[18:00] <warfaren> so i reinstalled ubuntu a few times because i messed it up a bit but it's good now.. but i see that it created a lot of partitions!
[18:00] <zykotick9> organiks, during your ssh session it "should" output to that session?  I'm not sure what you want...
[18:00] <anewguest> i want to know that whether its possible to upgrade ubuntu 10.04 to 11.04 without loosing user settings
[18:00] <warfaren> how do i merge them?
[18:01] <jxshxx> kristopher: less than 24 hours
[18:01] <BluesKaj> cappy__, open alsamixer in the terminal, and look in the upper left for a listed driver
[18:01] <zykotick9> anewguest, you have to update from 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04.  Are you sure a backup/fresh install isn't possible?  Good luck (PS. I'd never recommend upgrading from one version of ubuntu to the next, and twice seems insane to me)
[18:02] <kristopher> jshxx also i would grab bleachbit to drop some temp files to see if that helps clear all except localizations free space and memory if u have save passwords uncheck becareful with it and run in terminal sudo bleachbit but it should speed it up once the os settles in
[18:02] <zykotick9> anewguest, BUT it is possible
[18:02] <anewguest> fresh install is possible but i want to keep the user settings
[18:03] <anewguest> zykotick9: fresh install is possible but i want to keep the user settings
[18:03] <zykotick9> anewguest, so save your /home folder(s) to another media
[18:03] <organiks> zykotick9: i just want it outputed on the ssh machine
[18:03] <jxshxx> kristopher: Thanks, I'll try that.  I don't undersand this "settling in" of the OS.  Can you elaborate or point me to a good read?
[18:03] <[SPSU]Zach> is there a quick easy way to see if ur computer can boot from usb?
[18:04] <zykotick9> organiks, as you're running the commands, they will be?  Could you try asking your question using different terms perhaps?
[18:04] <kristopher> Yeah, After a fresh install it takes time for the os kernel to figure out how you work and your hardware like batterylife etc. After some time when it builds info logs on your sys, it should begin to what I call settel in and run a bit better for you
[18:05] <organiks> as im running the cmds they are posting in the terminal(home) and terminal(ssh) so it can been seen on both systems
[18:05] <nathanel> Fuchs: can i show you what i did through pastebin?
[18:05] <dracmas> Bios should show boot options. If there's no section for your usb then no.
[18:06] <Fuchs> nathanel: you can, but I probably won't comment it
[18:06] <kristopher> battery life is a good example after a fresh install if it says 2 hrs left its probably more like one lol once it settles and charges up etc it becomes more accurate
[18:06] <nathanel> Fuchs: meaning?
[18:06] <zykotick9> organiks, i don't know a way to do that with ssh sorry.  good luck.
[18:06] <kristopher> same thing goes for the rest of the sys
[18:06] <Fuchs> nathanel: you can show it to me, but it probably won't make a difference :)
[18:06] <cappy__> BluesKaj: under card it says VIA8235, under chip it says Realtek ALC650E
[18:07] <bindi> !fixgrub
[18:07] <Rich246> Hi guys, is there a way I can get all the Wallapers from Ubuntu past to current for my computer?... I don't have Ubuntu.
[18:07] <nathanel> Fuchs: oh.. but I would like to get your feedback in terms of logic... I'm no expert...
[18:07] <surge> hi, i followed the steps to create a USB installer from windows
[18:07] <ticopuravida> Unable to use my Laptop's external monitor in Ubuntu 11.04, have read all the forums and tons of articles out there, but none works, of course the monitor is ok, I use it normally on Windows.
[18:07] <surge> when I boot from the usb stick it says missing operating system
[18:07] <Fuchs> nathanel: show me then, but since I found the original idea bad, I probably won't give any good comments on how to improve.
[18:08] <Rich246> Is there a link or website I can go to?
[18:08] <jxshxx> kristopher: Thanks again!
[18:08] <nathanel> Fuchs: I understand.. but it's for closed network machine usage only.. rest assured.. I know the risks...
[18:08] <BluesKaj> cappy__, ok, have all the ctrls turned right up and no "M"s in the boxes , especially Master and Line
[18:08] <kristopher> also jshxx if your browser is slow some people find alternative browsers to be better, i would also check to see if there are any propreitary hardwar avaliable in additional hardware and reboot a few times latest updates etc. if its still slow after some time then we can try other options
[18:09] <nathanel> Fuchs: it's in
[18:09] <trism> Rich246: this site seems to have warty-maverick http://ubuntu.ecchi.ca/wallpapers/
[18:10] <cappy__> BluesKaj: OMG I'm so sory for wasting everyone's time, That was it there were MM's in all the boxes, I'm such a TOOL thankyou so much
[18:10] <kristopher> cappy something simple?
[18:10] <Rich246> trism: Ty! Do you know the resolution of those wallpapers?
[18:10] <cappy__> Kristopher: sorry dude for wasting your time
[18:11] <Fuchs> nathanel: well, you probably would have to give me the URL
[18:11] <kristopher> your ok 9-10 problems with ubuntu usually wind up to be someting simple that we all overlook
[18:11] <cappy__> soreau: thanks so much I know one of you toldd me to check that and I just didn't understand,
[18:11] <Dylan2236> Is there any way to install Windows from inside Ubuntu?
[18:11] <nathanel> Fuchs: sorry... http://pastebin.com/LPJGzkyx
[18:11] <IdleOne> cappy__: never a waste of time when someone learns :)
[18:11] <trism> Rich246: they seem to vary
[18:12] <kristopher> yup
[18:12] <nathanel> Fuchs: i forgot the >> /etc/fstab on the echo line...
[18:12] <soreau> cappy__: It works now?
[18:12] <cappy__> Wow that's just incredible you guys are the best
[18:12] <cappy__> yeah it works sorry for wasting your time man
[18:12] <soreau> cappy__: Yea, in alsamixer you use arrow keys to navigate and 'm' to (un)mute tracks
[18:12] <soreau> cappy__: Glad you got it working! :-)
[18:12] <IdleOne> Dylan2236: using virtualbox
[18:13] <cappy__> soreau: I realise that now, I should have read your post more carefully
[18:13] <Dylan2236> You can install windows to your hard drive and like Boot up on it?
[18:13] <Fuchs> nathanel: despite the fact that I still don't like your solution at all: it does not check for duplicates.
[18:13] <soreau> cappy__: That's ok, as long as it works now ;)
[18:13] <IdleOne> Dylan2236: no, for that you need to use a Windows CD.
[18:13] <cappy__> thanks again all I owe ye big time
[18:13] <Rich246> trism: Thanks again :)
[18:14] <nathanel> Fuchs: it was the next step.. avoiding sda1 (default ubuntu install partition) and dups
[18:14] <warfaren> can someone help me delete the swap partitions ubuntu created when i reinstalled it 3 times?
[18:14] <Dylan2236> I tryed using A Windows XP CD but it did not detect my hard drives.
[18:14] <Dylan2236> Ubuntu Configured my Hard drives improperly I think.
[18:14] <IdleOne> Dylan2236: check with ##windows for support installing windows
[18:14] <nathanel> warfaren: gparted or palimpsest
[18:14] <surge> has anyone been able to get the pendrive thing working?
[18:14] <Fuchs> nathanel: and for swap and other kinds of partitions it is a bad idea as well
[18:14] <surge> every time i get "missing operating system"
[18:14] <warfaren> i have 3x3GB swap partitions. i thought it would delete the old ones because i selected "delete the old ubuntu and install a new one" something
[18:14] <Fuchs> nathanel: again, there are more proper solutions for automounting
[18:15] <Fuchs> nathanel: consider using one of these
[18:15] <nathanel> Fuchs: i don't do swap... got plenty ram and a 64 bit system...
[18:15] <warfaren> yes nathanel that's what i'm using but when i try to delete /dev/sda7 it says it cant because my current swap partition is /dev/sda9
[18:15] <surge> i dont think the penndrive utility is creating a proper mbr
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> warfaren: why 3 swap partitions?
[18:15] <warfaren> not intentional
[18:15] <warfaren> i reinstalled ubuntu 3 times
[18:15] <[SPSU]Zach> is there a way to install ubuntu directly to my hard drive without having to boot from cd?
[18:15] <warfaren> but the installer didnt detect the old ones and just repartitioned the disk more and more
[18:16] <kristopher> when you install a new version of ubuntu it formats and installs over existing its possible things get orphaned
[18:16] <warfaren> i chose to remove the old ubuntu install in the installer
[18:16] <trism> Rich246: you can also download tar files of the newer versions here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-wallpapers (I don't think oneiric is the final version yet though)
[18:16] <kristopher> dban.org is what i use to wipe my drives but use at risk and be prepared for serious time
[18:16] <kristopher> its easy just takes time to wipe
[18:17] <egoga> I hate these crappy channels where no one tells how it works
[18:17] <egoga> I mean there are 1514 people here
[18:17] <egoga> It's like "how do I make a CIL file for a .NET exe file with mono"
[18:17] <warfaren> well i dont think i can delete those old unused swap partitions now, they are /dev/sda6 and 7 and my ext4 is /dev/sda8
[18:17] <kristopher> if u dont like that mess gparted to edit partitions
[18:17] <egoga> no one responds, they just go "go google" or "http://wiki.debian.org/wiki/Mono" or "http://www.mono-projects.org
[18:18] <egoga> what's a good way to compile the latest CVS of cinepaint
[18:18] <egoga> or is there another good thing like adobe illustrator/Paint Shop Pro for Linux (not GIMP itself, that's like Photoshop)
[18:18] <Myrtti> egoga: a generic question like that is very difficult to answer
[18:18] <egoga> I'm not talking about simple programs like Xpaint
[18:18] <HelloWorld321> Do you mean something like InkScape?
[18:18] <kristopher> yeah egoga theres better than gimp
[18:19] <egoga> maybe inkscape, I don't know, I've never heard of it
[18:19] <HelloWorld321> LibreOffice has a drawing module, but its more for charting.
[18:19] <egoga> inkscape seems like a vector editor, what I want is something similar to PSP
[18:19] <warfaren> ok
[18:20] <warfaren> i resized those unused swap partitions now, to 1MB
[18:20] <warfaren> because it wont let me delete them
[18:20] <r0z4>  I am learning ruby on rails and i am making a blog about it in spanish specially for ubuntu, i want to share it, because i want to have feedback and comments  http://mxrubyonrails.wordpress.com/   :)
[18:20] <warfaren> so now i have about 6GB unallocated space
[18:20] <kristopher> yeah inkscpae is good but theres others too
[18:20] <HelloWorld321> InkScape is indeed vector graphics.
[18:20] <oCean> r0z4: don't do that here
[18:20] <egoga> I looked at Cinepaint, but it seems more for video editing
[18:20] <warfaren> now i would like to resize my ext4 partition that i'm currently running from
[18:20] <kristopher> fedora has it built in i think let me check
[18:21] <warfaren> do i need to fire up my live cd? or can i set it to do it after a reboot or something?
[18:21] <[SPSU]Zach> does ubuntu support the i7 processor?
[18:21] <warfaren> i'm sure it does yeah
[18:22] <warfaren> what's "swapoff"?
[18:22] <warfaren> is that unmount swap partition?
[18:22] <kristopher> now dont get me wrong i hate fedora but there flavor has this built in also available for ubuntu best editing sw like gimp http://fedoraproject.org/en/features/#creativity
[18:22] <egoga> ok
[18:22] <egoga> What I did was: ran e2fsck -f /dev/ext4partitiontoberesized
[18:22] <egoga> From the Debian NetInstall CD in rescue mode
[18:22] <egoga> then type resize2fs /dev/whatever 89G to resize it to 89 gigabytes for example
[18:22] <FloodBot1> egoga: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:22] <Fuerte> ciao a tutti
[18:23] <egoga> then type resize2fs /dev/whatever 89G to resize it to 89 gigabytes for example
[18:23] <kristopher> egoga go there to look at titles http://fedoraproject.org/en/features/#creativity download for ubuntu from sw center
[18:23] <oCean> warfaren: yes. swapoff -a will unmount all swap partitions, swapon -s will show you various partitions in use. You can also use swapoff /dev/sdXX for example
[18:23] <egoga> FloodBot1 I'm not flooding
[18:23] <warfaren> ok
[18:23] <Braber01> I can't seem to get g15macro to run I got it to run only once before but now it just gives me a segmentation fault message can anybody help me with this?
[18:23] <nathanel> Fuchs: if [[ $(awk '/is mounted/ {print $3}'<<<"$INFORMATION") == '1' ]] ||  ??????
[18:23] <warfaren> so how do i best run gparted without my system partition mounted?
[18:23] <warfaren> live cd?
[18:24] <nvJim> can anyone help me troubleshoot my nvidia problem. Fresh install of Ubuntu 11.04 booted up fine updated ubuntu to latest, then installed recommended nvidia drivers.. now it wont boot into x
[18:24] <Fuchs> nathanel: sorry, I won't help you further in developing a solution which is, in my opinion, a bad idea to start with
[18:24] <gentoo-intel> warfaren, yes
[18:24] <warfaren> ok
[18:24] <warfaren> i hope this'll work...
[18:24] <egoga> whateva
[18:24] <warfaren> worst case scenario i mess it all up again lol
[18:24] <warfaren> oh yeah.. one more thing
[18:24] <Fuerte> !list
[18:24] <nathanel> Fuchs: why do you consider it a bad idea?
[18:24] <gentoo-intel> warfaren, what are you trying to do?
[18:24] <HelloWorld321> I think I've installed Glassfish (and NetBeans) via Ubuntu Software Center, and I see lots of glassfish folders in /usr/share/doc, and I see lots of glassfish jars in /usr/share/java but I can't find asadmin anywhere.   Where should I be looking for asadmin?
[18:24] <warfaren> delete some partitions i did not intend to create
[18:25] <gentoo-intel> ok
[18:25] <warfaren> and merge the space into my main ext4 partition
[18:25] <warfaren> but i cant because i'm running from it now so
[18:25] <gentoo-intel> warfaren, yea should work fine
[18:25] <Fuchs> nathanel: because there are way better solutions for automounting, automatically fiddling with a file such as the /etc/fstab is a really bad idea which might break a lot of things
[18:25] <warfaren> however
[18:25] <r3m> Hi, LTS version are always version terminating by .04 or no? or one version on each two?
[18:25] <warfaren> my main ext4 partition is called sda8
[18:25] <ubuntu_aaaaa> i'm having trouble install ubuntu 11.04
[18:25] <warfaren> so if i delete those other partitions which are sda7 and sda6
[18:25] <xangua> !lts | r3m
[18:25] <warfaren> i guess my sda8 will be the new sda6?
[18:26] <xangua> r3m: every 2 years is LTS
[18:26] <kristopher> lts is every 3 versions usually after oneric there will be another lts
[18:26] <r3m> xangua: thanks!
[18:26] <gentoo-intel> warfaren, i think so. it can be slow if partitions are before the / partition
[18:26] <gentoo-intel> very slow
[18:26] <r3m> xangua: can i update from a LTS to 11.04?
[18:26] <warfaren> yeah ok
[18:26] <warfaren> well
[18:26] <warfaren> will there be a problem if it changes to sda6?
[18:26] <warfaren> or will it correctly mount it anyway?
[18:26] <kristopher> yeah terminal update -d
[18:26] <xangua> r3m: you can update from lts to lts
[18:26] <r3m> xangua: perfect thanks a lot
[18:26] <warfaren> i mean, if i go into livecd and delete those partitions in between
[18:27] <warfaren> will it still find my ext4?
[18:27] <oCean> !enter | warfaren
[18:27] <kristopher> should work or just change the setting in updat advanced settings show releases
[18:27] <warfaren> sorry..
[18:27] <xangua> r3m: if you want to upgrade to normall release you will have to upgrade tru every version
[18:27] <gentoo-intel> warfaren, if it doesnt youll have to chroot in and change the grub config / fstab
[18:27] <warfaren> ok
[18:27] <gentoo-intel> warfaren, never tried what your doing myself
[18:27] <kristopher> update -d will get you off lts to the next in terminal
[18:27] <oCean> warfaren: if it is just 2 swappartitions you want to delete, there's no need for booting in livecd
[18:27] <nathanel> Fuchs: I completely understand but the UUID input of the hdds which are mine and mine only as internal is fine by me as I've done it manually in the past. It has happened that formatting my drive has changed the uuid and made a previous, more basic version of an automated script fail. Other gtk solution do the same thing but via interface.. i really dont get why it'S so bad...
[18:28] <warfaren> i see. well i'll take my chances hehe
[18:28] <oCean> warfaren: just run a sudo fdisk -l to see your partion layout
[18:28] <warfaren> oCean: the problem is that they have a lower sda number than my ext4 that i'm running from
[18:28] <warfaren> so it wont let me do it
[18:28] <warfaren> i'm booting the live cd now anyways so whatever
[18:29] <Fuchs> nathanel: it doesn't have to be any graphical solution
[18:29] <Fuchs> nathanel: you could just use pmount or udev rules
[18:29] <dury> hi there all :)
[18:29] <kristopher> if your running 11.04 and type update -d in terminal youll be going to the beta 1 of oneric oncelot if your before that it will take you to what ever the next version is if your on ubuntu 9.04 its gonna take awhile to get to 11.04
[18:30] <nathanel> Fuchs: please be patient  as i am not too familiar with such methods
[18:30] <dury> which distribution it's secure?
[18:30] <gentoo-intel> dury, as in what?
[18:30] <gentoo-intel> ubuntu is pretty secure
[18:30] <kristopher> always the latest version of ubuntu is more secure non beta versions but in honesty i dont like fedora support they are the most secure
[18:31] <ipalaus> hello! I'm trying to connecto my mongodb server in ubuntu but I've this error: http://pastebin.com/LpRSSa4z anyone knows how to solve it? Thank you in advance!
[18:31] <warfaren> openbsd is pretty secure stuff too
[18:31] <ipalaus> I prefere funtoo :)
[18:31] <warfaren> but that's not linux
[18:31] <dury> gentoo-intel: what about "Gentoo"
[18:31] <nathanel> Fuchs: i really appreciate your help -  how would it operate through a udev rule or policy
[18:31] <gentoo-intel> ofc, but not good for desktop!
[18:31] <gentoo-intel> dury, gentoo has hardened, which is prob as secure as linux gets
[18:32] <oCean> dury: this channel is for ubuntu only, please stick to that topic. Other discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:32] <dury> oCean: sorry
[18:32] <kristopher> gentoo about 1 in 50 people could install it lol installation is a task and unless u really know linux i would not attempt it alot to compile
[18:32] <gentoo-intel> an installer is in the works
[18:33] <Fuchs> nathanel: I only have a german manual at hand, let me see if I find an english one
[18:33] <kristopher> really?
[18:33] <gentoo-intel> kristopher, yes, but ill get kicked for talking more
[18:33] <oCean> thanks
[18:33] <kristopher> k
[18:33] <kristopher> nice to know ;) tho
[18:34] <nathanel> Fuchs: thanks
[18:34] <Fuchs> nathanel: there is an example for usb media, you can adapt the rule to match hard drives in general http://cdfx.penguins-on-hudson.com/2010/01/20/automount-removable-devices-on-ubuntu-servers/
[18:35] <nathanel> Fuchs: thank you.. checking it right now
[18:35] <rocket16> Hello. I am having exactly the same problem as here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1779489 Can there be any help other than reinstalling ubuntu? :( I badly need it. Thanks in advance
[18:35] <warfaren> wtf.
[18:36] <ubuntu_aaaaa> i'm having trouble install ubuntu 11.04. its able to detect dev sdb but unable to add any or remove partition
[18:36] <warfaren> i'm in livecd environment now and running gparted but for some reason i cannot expand my ext4 partition into the size i want. i can only make it smaller. that's even though i have 6GB unallocated space
[18:36] <gentoo-intel> warfaren, directly after it?
[18:37] <warfaren> i guess i don't know
[18:37] <warfaren> oh. no that must be the problem
[18:37] <gentoo-intel> gparted should be pretty clear
[18:37] <kristopher> boot and nuke lol
[18:37] <warfaren> there's a swap partition in between
[18:37] <gentoo-intel> it HAS to be directly after it
[18:37] <gentoo-intel> otherwise it has no space to expand in to
[18:38] <warfaren> i see.. so if i delete the swap partition will i be able to create it again later?
[18:38] <gentoo-intel> yes
[18:38] <gentoo-intel> delete swap, expand it then create a swap at the end
[18:38] <gentoo-intel> if you know how
[18:38] <warfaren> alright
[18:38] <warfaren> ill delete it first
[18:38] <gentoo-intel> gparted can do it all
[18:39] <Defusal> Hi everyone
[18:39] <kristopher> tru should be factory with ubuntu
[18:39] <warfaren> yes, i just deleted my swap with gparted now
[18:39] <rocket16> Any help guys?
[18:39] <warfaren> now how do i create it and actually make my installed ubuntu find it?
[18:39] <gentoo-intel> warfaren, ubuntu should just pick it up
[18:40] <gentoo-intel> warfaren, when you create a new partition gparted should have a swap option
[18:40] <warfaren> cool
[18:40] <auronandace> !here | rocket16
[18:40] <Defusal> When attempting to set my gateway for my wireless interface using the gui settings, ubuntu refuses to save the correct address and can only save <IP_ADDRESS> or if i enter "2", it saves <IP_ADDRESS>... How can I manually override these settings to work around the bugged GUI interface? It appears that it does not use /etc/network/interfaces
[18:40] <kristopher> as long as its ext ubuntu will know it is no need to syn anything
[18:40] <warfaren> so ill expand my ext4 first. and then ill make a swap
[18:40] <nikola> is there a change in policy about chromium updates in natty? it is still on version 12!? before version 12 i had updates... but version 13 is out for over the month and still no updates
[18:41] <kristopher> warfaren if your resizing to shrink swap yes expand ext4 then creat swap with remainder of space
[18:41] <ubuntu_aaaaa> i'm having trouble install ubuntu 11.04. its able to detect dev sdb but unable to add any or remove partition?
[18:41] <warfaren> ok
[18:41] <auronandace> !latest | nikola
[18:42] <warfaren> ok time to create swap. it only lets me choose "logical partition"
[18:43] <warfaren> and i set file system to linux-swap. will that be ok?
[18:43] <Defusal> Anyway, will someone please highlight my nick when you are able to answer, thanks
[18:44] <tony_> #rockbox
[18:44] <oCean> Defusal: sure
[18:44] <warfaren> ok well all done.. reboot time.. hopefully it works
[18:44] <kristopher> warfaren should be right
[18:44] <oCean> Defusal: oh wait, I thought you just needed a highlight..
[18:44] <kristopher> as long as its labled as swap linux will know
[18:44] <Defusal> Heh
[18:44] <warfaren> crap. i get grub error now
[18:45] <warfaren> "error: no such partition." grub rescue>
[18:45] <Defusal> I was hoping that the latest LTS release would be more bug free, but it appears to be bugged like any other version, so I just need a workaround to be able to get my internet working and I'll be happy, thanks
[18:46] <warfaren> so what do i do now? :( can't boot
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> Defusal: you can always try another linux distro, which better suits your needs
[18:47] <warfaren> perhaps grub was hardcoded to dev/sda8 and can't find that now
[18:47] <warfaren> in that case i need to change it to sda6...
[18:47] <Defusal> MonkeyDust, why would I want to do that? I'm sure it will work fine as my needs are rather simple for this machine, one need is being able to boot and run persistently from a usb drive, which it does...
[18:48] <kristopher> warfarren 1. User any live CD (Ubuntu) or installation CD 2. Type command "linux rescue" at the boot 3. Type "chroot /mnt/sysimage" command after entering into the rescue mode 4. Use "grub-install /dev/hda" to recover your Grub boot loader
[18:49] <warfaren> i'm booting a live cd now
[18:49] <warfaren> but it's going straight into GUI
[18:49] <warfaren> i do have windows in multiboot on the drive too, would it be affected?
[18:50] <kristopher> only if linux is removed yes then u wont be able to boot windows as itll throw grub errors
[18:50] <warfaren> well i dont plan on removing it
[18:51] <warfaren> i just wanna fix it so i get my multiboot working again
[18:51] <warfaren> so, i click on "test ubuntu" on the live cd right? or do you want me to go into a virtual terminal?
[18:51] <oCean> warfaren: please learn to use your enter key less.
[18:51] <kristopher> those steps should bring back ur grub boot loader
[18:51] <MrPockets> Can anyone recommend a dock for Ubuntu?
[18:52] <warfaren> well sorry.. it's just that i type and think, i dont have all the text in my head when i press enter the first time
[18:52] <MrPockets> alll mac look'en and stuff?
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> MrPockets: awn works fine
[18:52] <MrPockets> thats the one i was looking for
[18:52] <MrPockets> thanks
[18:52] <stephenthemartyr> i am trying to install ubuntu on a partitionhow do i install only in part of the "free space" and not erase the whole disk?
[18:52] <oCean> warfaren: well, get used to it, there's normally very heavy traffic in this channel.
[18:52] <kristopher> 1500 users
[18:52] <warfaren> i will try my best. i dont want to annoy you guys. very thankful for the support you provide
[18:52] <auronandace> !partitioning | stephenthemartyr
[18:53] <organiks> -if i already have ubuntu installed how do i put windows on?  most guides say install windows first
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> stephenthemartyr: assign seperate space to root, /home and /swap
[18:53] <saturn6962> Usually there isn't many rude people. Times change.
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> See how many users there are when Oneiric is released
[18:53] <kristopher> warfaren try those steps to reinstall grub
[18:53] <nathanel> Fuchs: i'm lost...
[18:53] <kristopher> should give us the boot options
[18:53] <nathanel> i get the idea of what i need to do but don't know how to append variables
[18:53] <nathanel> Fuchs: i get the idea of what i need to do but don't know how to append variables
[18:54] <[SPSU]Zach> i have a g74sx laptop
[18:54] <[SPSU]Zach> other ppl have it too
[18:54] <[SPSU]Zach> and they can install ubuntu
[18:54] <[SPSU]Zach> but i cant
[18:54] <[SPSU]Zach> :(
[18:54] <[SPSU]Zach> it always says "unable to find medium containing live file system"
[18:54] <slakcphil> does anyone recommend 64 or 32 10.04 for a amd64 toshiba with 2gb ram. what would be best in your opinions
[18:54] <warfaren> yeah i'm gonna try those but linux rescue doesn't work. i suppose i'm not supposed to write them in bash
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> slakcphil:I'd go 64bit
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> [SPSU]Zach: please don't use Enter too often
[18:55] <stephenthemartyr> auronandace: alright but its not a blank disk there is another OS on 100gb of the 650gb HD and I dont want to eraSe that,gparted can explain how to do that?
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> [SPSU]Zach: did you test your RAM for errors? Did you use a CD or USB?
[18:55] <slakcphil> ActionParsnip, ok for any reason in particular?
[18:55] <stephenthemartyr> MonkeyDust: im sorry seperate space where?
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> slakcphil: uses the full features of your CPU, cleaner RAM upgrades
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> stephenthemartyr: you know how to use Terminal? if yes, type sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit and paste it here
[18:56] <organiks> does windows need to be installed first  before ubuntu?
[18:56] <stephenthemartyr> MonkeyDust: yes
[18:56] <ubuntu_aaaaa> I need help installing ubuntu its said no root file system defined
[18:57] <kristopher> i agree 64 bit isnt needed for less than 4gigs of ram but if ur cpu supports it and u ever decide to expand passed 4 gigs 64bit is the way to go
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> organiks: yes, or win overwrites grub and you will have to repair it
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_aaaaa: when you partition you need one set to / and one for swap
[18:57] <kristopher> warfarren were u able to get grub
[18:57] <slakcphil> AcitonParsnip, ok I like the sund od that :) I have just had some errors in bt5 r1 with freezing at boot
[18:58] <warfaren> all i get when i boot from harddrive is "grub rescue", and when i boot from my ubuntu 11.04 live cd it sends me straight into the gui
[18:58] <auronandace> !backtrack | slakcphil
[18:59] <slakcphil> and windoze7 is slowskie, nothing worse than trying to clode laptop and head out somewhere and then it decides it's a perfecdt time to download 40 updates :(
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> warfaren: get youtself to the installed desktop and run: sudo update-grub
[18:59] <warfaren> ok
[18:59] <stercor> I can't save files as text in gscan2pdf.
[18:59] <kristopher> warfarren from livecd and terminal for steps
[18:59] <blsh0p> what is the irc chatroom for playonlinux?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> warfaren: may want to run: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/ /dev/sda      assuming sda is your ubuntu drive
[19:00] <warfaren> ActionParsnip: i get /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'.
[19:00] <warfaren> yes, i have windows in dualboot on it too
[19:01] <stephenthemartyr> MonkeyDust: pastebin.com/sdgabxNO
[19:01] <blsh0p> what is playonlinux irc room?
[19:01] <auronandace> !alias | blsh0p
[19:01] <oCean> !alis | blsh0p
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> warfaren: ok what does the error mean (use websearches to find out). You could reinstall the
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> warfaren: grub-pc package, may help
[19:02] <warfaren> here's what it looks like: i have /dev/sda2, my windows partition and /dev/sda6, my ubuntu ext4 partition
[19:03] <stephenthemartyr> MonkeyDust: http://pastebin.com/sdgabxN0
[19:03] <ubuntu_aaaaa> ActionParsnip, i wasn't able to set up a partation for it
[19:03] <ubuntu_aaaaa> I need help installing ubuntu its said no root file system defined
[19:04] <auronandace> ubuntu_aaaaa: you need to pick a partition and make it root (/)
[19:04] <warfaren> can't i just have the ubuntu installer just scan my drives and configure grub properly? :(
[19:05] <winut> maybe wrong partition is set active?
[19:05] <ubuntu_aaaaa> auronandace how would i set the partation to root when i can't edit
[19:05] <ubuntu_aaaaa> auronandace, in gpart?
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_aaaaa: then it won't install. If you make free space, you can tell the installer to use the new space
[19:06] <auronandace> ubuntu_aaaaa: not in gparted, in the ubuntu installer
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> warfaren: could try: sudo apt-get install os-prober; sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[19:07] <auronandace> ubuntu_aaaaa: it has to be a partition type that linux can install on
[19:07] <ubuntu_aaaaa> ActionParsnip, i already cleanly format out free space no partation
[19:07] <stephenthemartyr> MonkeyDust: did u see the link?
[19:07] <ubuntu_aaaaa> ActionParsnip, auronandace got it .
[19:08] <eric357> how is it that apt-cache search php5-mcrypt returns package information but apt-get install php5-mcrypt says: E: Package php5-mcrypt has no installation candidate?
[19:08] <warfaren> ActionParsnip: again i got the same error from update-grub, cannot stat aufs
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> eric357: try:  apt-cache search | php | grep -i cryp
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> warfaren: what does the error mean?
[19:08] <jrib> eric357: run sudo apt-get update; if your issue remains, pastebin full input and output when you attempt to install
[19:09] <ubuntu_aaaaa> ActionParsnip, auronandace should i have /boot (100mb) /swap, / ,  /home
[19:09] <warfaren> what i can find on google is i need to chroot
[19:09] <warfaren> that's right, i haven't done that
[19:09] <r3m> Hi, is there a way to install flash from adobe? i think its faster than other
[19:09] <rainy-day> Hi, I have 11.4, I had unity but then I enabled compiz cube, it asked me to turn off unity, I clicked ok and now after restart I have an empty desktop - no gnome bar, alt-f2 doesn't work, but ctrl-alt-del menu works. How can I fix this?
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_aaaaa: you don't really need /boot. It can be part of / and have no adverse effects
[19:09] <jrib> !flash | r3m
[19:10] <_schulte_> how to set the font used in tty consoles?
[19:10] <r3m> thanks
[19:10] <auronandace> ubuntu_aaaaa: if you like
[19:10] <ubuntu_aaaaa> ActionParsnip, so swap in beginning
[19:10] <eric357> jrib: update was good idea but install still returns the same error
[19:10] <ubuntu_aaaaa> or swap all the way end like / /home /swap?
[19:10] <jrib> eric357:  pastebin full input and output when you attempt to install
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> rainy-day: try:    gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1; unity --reset
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> rainy-day: you can press CTRL+ALT+F1 and run it there
[19:11] <warfaren> so how do i chroot and all that? i dont even know what chroot does in this case :/
[19:11] <rainy-day> ActionParsnip: thanks will try
[19:12] <_schulte_> is it possible to use the new UbuntuBeta font in a tty?
[19:13] <tensorpudding> _schulte_: no
[19:13] <rainy-day> ActionParsnip: I get python traceback error saying global name 'GError' is not defined
[19:13] <_schulte_> tensorpudding: well, I'm looking forward to when/if it is
[19:13] <eric357> jrib: output is: http://pastebin.com/LwKJL0ee
[19:13] <tensorpudding> _schulte_: in a gnome terminal, probably
[19:14] <[SPSU]Zach> i finally was able to boot from my usb
[19:14] <tensorpudding> _schulte_: but console fonts are special, you can't just use any truetype font on them
[19:14] <rainy-day> susundberg
[19:14] <[SPSU]Zach> usb port 3.0 does not work with ubuntu...
[19:14] <[SPSU]Zach> :(
[19:14] <_schulte_> tensorpudding: yea, I have it running in my graphical env.  but would like it in text tty as well
[19:14] <jrib> eric357: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list*
[19:14] <_schulte_> makes sense
[19:14] <[SPSU]Zach> is there a way to downgrade ubuntu while its running?
[19:14] <[SPSU]Zach> from usb?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> [SPSU]Zach: just install the older version
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> rainy-day: http://mygeekopinions.blogspot.com/2011/05/how-to-edit-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu.html
[19:15] <[SPSU]Zach> i try to reformat my flash drive and my computer sees it as a dvd drive and says "no disk in drive H"
[19:16] <rainy-day> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[19:16] <[SPSU]Zach> or should i just use the usb maker thing to reformat it?
[19:16] <sburwood1> I have a USB Wifi Key, a D-Link DWA-135.  I want to use it with a desktop computer.  How do I proceed with Ubuntu 11.04?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> [SPSU]Zach: then I'd ask in ##windows   H: is a windows construct
[19:16] <eric357> jrib: pasted at: http://pastebin.com/kcxqk2UC
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> [SPSU]Zach: unetbootin can format as far as I am aware
[19:17] <LynxSpark124> hey guys
[19:17] <LynxSpark124> why does Skype exit out suddently
[19:17] <LynxSpark124> Suddenly
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> sburwood1: have it connected and run:  lsusb    you will get an 8 character hex ID you can find guides with
[19:17] <LynxSpark124> during a video call?
[19:17] <LynxSpark124> I was just talking and it just closed out?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: run it from a terminal, the output may give clues
[19:17] <jrib> eric357: what is the result of « uname -m »?
[19:17] <LynxSpark124> how do I do that?
[19:18] <stephenthemartyr> so i am here https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html but one of the steps in booting linux when ther is a windows partition doesnt make sense,can someonbe please please walk me through it
[19:18] <stephenthemartyr> please
[19:18] <sburwood1> ActionParsnip: I found its ID = 2001:3c17, but havent found a driver or whatever for it
[19:18] <LynxSpark124> how do I run it from terminal?
[19:18] <Restricted> ooo
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> sburwood1: also run:  sudo iwlist scan   to see if it scans ok
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: type:  skype   and hit enter, I'd have thought you would have TRIED that yourself....
[19:19] <[SPSU]Zach> nevermind i unplugged and replugged and it saw as "install ubuntu" again
[19:19] <timothy> rm /home/
[19:19] <LynxSpark124> Here is what is says
[19:19] <LynxSpark124> /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[19:19] <LynxSpark124> (<unknown>:3034): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load type module: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so
[19:19] <LynxSpark124> /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[19:19] <LynxSpark124> (<unknown>:3034): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load type module: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so
[19:19] <LynxSpark124> (<unknown>:3034): Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/im-ibus.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[19:19] <eric357> jrib:  it's i686
[19:19] <LynxSpark124> (<unknown>:3034): Gtk-WARNING **: Loading IM context type 'ibus' failed
[19:19] <LynxSpark124> (<unknown>:3034): Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/im-ibus.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[19:19] <FloodBot1> LynxSpark124: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:20] <timothy> JK
[19:20] <LynxSpark124> (<unknown>:3034): Gtk-WARNING **: Loading IM context type 'ibus' failed
[19:20] <LynxSpark124> /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[19:20] <sburwood1> ActionParsnip: iwlist scan tells me that lo, eth0 and vboxnet0  do not support scanning
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: you have installed the 32bit client on a 64bit OS
[19:20] <timothy> xchat needs copy past cut etc
[19:20] <teh5abiking> hello everyone, i installed ubuntu 11.10 beta 1, and when i tried to sync my 4th generation iPod touch, the songs weren't listed in my iPod's music app.
[19:20] <LynxSpark124> no...
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> sburwood1: ok then its not working and you need to expend effort
[19:20] <LynxSpark124> I installed the amd 64 version
[19:20] <cliff__> Hey guys, I messed up my upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10 64bit cuz of pkg repo problems, do you think I can pop in a live cd and install from there?
[19:20] <eric357> jrib: Linode running Ubuntu Lucid 10.04.3 LTS
[19:20] <LynxSpark124> that's what it says on my cd
[19:21] <escott> I have a NAS behind my router and dyndns setup on the nas. I forward a non-standard SSH port through from the router to the NAS, and use auth_key authentication. When I try to use rsync to connect to the NAS (coming at it from the dyndns side, and using the routers forwarding of port 873) I get a key authentication error. When I use rsync directly to the NAS it works. Do I need to do something to tell rsync that the ssh forwarded port is
[19:21] <escott>  non-standard (even though rsync is using rsync protocol), or should I be doing this in a different way.
[19:21] <LynxSpark124> See here is the output of skype
[19:21] <LynxSpark124> http://paste.ubuntu.com/691797/
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: I'd uninstall it then reinstall it, either that or you have been messing with libs and put the wrong file in the location
[19:21] <escott> s/dyndns on the nas/dyndns to the router/
[19:21] <teh5abiking> i checked the documentation, but the information was outdated. anyone have any ideas as to why I can't sync my iPod?
[19:21] <sburwood1> ActionParsnip: Please help a n00b find where to look for extended effort
[19:21] <LynxSpark124> no..
[19:21] <LynxSpark124> I installed skype from the software center
[19:21] <LynxSpark124> Since my Cd says AMD 64 . It should be 64 bit right?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: ok what is the output of:  uname -a; ls -la /usr/bin/skype
[19:22] <LynxSpark124> ok wait
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: pastebin that
[19:22] <teh5abiking> hello?
[19:22] <warfaren> yeah amd64 = all x86_64bit cpus such as ahtlon 64 and newer amd's.
[19:22] <sburwood1> Action, if lsusb finds it and iwlist doesn't scan it, that means ... what?
[19:22] <LynxSpark124> yeah
[19:22] <LynxSpark124> see
[19:22] <warfaren> and also all intel core cpus
[19:22] <LynxSpark124> http://pastebin.com/wqzAQKWC
[19:22] <sburwood1> ActionParsnip: , if lsusb finds it and iwlist doesn't scan it, that means ... what?
[19:23] <LynxSpark124> here is the output
[19:23] <LynxSpark124> http://pastebin.com/wqzAQKWC
[19:23] <teh5abiking> I was on UbuntuForums, and they told me to run for help on this IRC channel?
[19:23] <LynxSpark124> well what do you think?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: ok and the output of:  file /usr/bin/skype
[19:23] <LynxSpark124> ok
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: sorry I'm not replying at the speed of light. I'll try be faster
[19:24] <LynxSpark124> ok
[19:24] <LynxSpark124> well that's the output I got
[19:24] <LynxSpark124> I just pasted it..
[19:24] <LynxSpark124> and when I type /usr/bin/Skype it says no such file or directory
[19:24] <warfaren> well if you want i can post my grub.cfg on pastebin and maybe you can help me better?
[19:25] <LynxSpark124> so what should I do?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: it's /usr/bin/skype   not /usr/bin/Skype
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: there is a difference
[19:26] <LynxSpark124> Here it is
[19:26] <LynxSpark124> http://pastebin.com/m5EFu5wx
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: what is the output of the command:     file /usr/bin/skype
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: 'file'   is a command in Ubuntu
[19:27] <jrib> eric357: one second, that seems strange.  Can you pastebin the output of « sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy php5-mcrypt »?
[19:27] <Ddorda1> hey guys, i want to update my dejavu fonts, what should i do?
[19:27] <LynxSpark124> Here is the output
[19:27] <LynxSpark124> http://pastebin.com/G6V9uUQK
[19:27] <LynxSpark124> What do you think?
[19:28] <Ddorda1> i have downloaded the latest package and extracted it /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu
[19:28] <guntbert> !enter | LynxSpark124
[19:28] <eric357> jrib: I'll do that, hold on.  (yes, seems strange to me too!)
[19:28] <Ddorda1> but now it looks weird
[19:28] <LynxSpark124> Sorry guys Bit I'm in a rush.
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: read it, yuo tell me. Its clear as day
[19:28] <LynxSpark124> I don't understand ?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: /usr/bin/skype: ELF 32-bit LSB executable
[19:29] <LynxSpark124> Oh so I downloaded the 32 bit version/
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: its the 32bit binary, which you said you didn't install
[19:29] <LynxSpark124> Oh..
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: yes, I knew you had, but I wanted you to see it, you MUST have force installed it
[19:29] <LynxSpark124> I installed the 64 bit Ubuntu but not the 64 bit Skype
[19:29] <LynxSpark124> Right?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: yes, uninstall it, go to the skype website and get the 64BIT version, it will work
[19:30] <LynxSpark124> ok...
[19:30] <LynxSpark124> and also how do I get the 64 bit version of Wine?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: no, wine will sort itself out
[19:30] <LynxSpark124> ok..
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: why do you need wine with skype?
[19:31] <LynxSpark124> No I need wine to play games
[19:31] <eric357> jrib: output is:  http://pastebin.com/BbzNPAyf
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: thats a completely different issue, but wine will sort itself out
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> LynxSpark124: http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/games.html
[19:31] <LynxSpark124> all right thanks
[19:32] <LynxSpark124> Where is the 64 bit skype link?
[19:32] <Defusal> When attempting to set my gateway for my wireless interface using the gui settings, ubuntu refuses to save the correct address and can only save <IP_ADDRESS> or if i enter "2", it saves <IP_ADDRESS>... How can I manually override these settings to work around the bugged GUI interface? It appears to not use /etc/network/interfaces
[19:32] <LynxSpark124> What ever
[19:32] <jrib> eric357: you have some repositories other than the ones in /etc/apt/sources.list enabled.  They're probably in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[19:32] <LynxSpark124> found the amd 64. deb file :D
[19:32] <LynxSpark124> Thanks dude
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: yes on the skype site
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: easy isn't it :)
[19:33] <LynxSpark124> Yes
[19:33] <LynxSpark124> God Bless you sir and good day
[19:33] <LynxSpark124> Wait but how do I installed it..?
[19:33] <jrib> eric357: also, do you have anything in /etc/apt/preferences*?
[19:33] <LynxSpark124> I right click it and it just says install in Ubuntu Software center?
[19:34] <eric357> jrib: jrib: yes, the file is mercury.list  The pastebin follows momentarily
[19:34] <LynxSpark124> well so what do I do?
[19:34] <LynxSpark124> How do I install amd64.deb?
[19:34] <ticopuravida> HP DV9000 Laptop with Nvidia GeForce 6150 Ubuntu 11.04 Clasic (not Unity), never able to use an external monitor, a good source of information for this issue, other than Nvidia.com and x.org and ubuntu forums, I read all of that already
[19:34] <stephenthemartyr> i need help partitioning and installing a dual boot,the website on partitioning by ub untu did not make sense nor work for me,can someone please help me
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> stephenthemartyr: do you want re-partion from scratch or repair existing partitions?
[19:35] <lovabill> hello! first time here.
[19:35] <soreau> hi lovabill
[19:35] <LynxSpark124> guys
[19:36] <LynxSpark124> how can I run a amd64.deb file?
[19:36] <alkafoo> soreau: hello
[19:36] <alkafoo> LynxSpark124: man dpkg, /-i
[19:36] <soreau> stephenthemartyr: What two OS'es?
[19:36] <alkafoo> LynxSpark124: you know, assuming you have an amd64 system to use it with
[19:36] <soreau> alkafoo: hi
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: double click it. Be sure to uninstall the current skype
[19:37] <eric357> jrib:  files are here: http://pastebin.com/xCiBzym8
[19:37] <LynxSpark124> ok
[19:37] <rapage> anyone knows why sometimes when I log off ubuntu the screen gets all messed up with color bars and it appears to have hanged? I'm on a laptop
[19:37] <LynxSpark124> It takes me to software center?
[19:37] <LynxSpark124> Why??
[19:37] <Myrtti> LynxSpark124: why shouldn't it?
[19:37] <gentoo-intel> LynxSpark124, when you double click deb it installs with soft centre
[19:37] <jrib> eric357: why do you have the karmic repos enabled?
[19:38] <LynxSpark124> oh
[19:38] <LynxSpark124> no wonder
[19:38] <flodine> rapage thats just ubuntu
[19:38] <LynxSpark124> It says an older version is Available. So I guess this is the new 64 bit and not the 32 bit?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: you can install it in terminal with:  sudo dpkg -i filename.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[19:38] <flodine> rapage all my laptops do that even when you log on
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: did you uninstall the current skype first, like I said?
[19:39] <LynxSpark124> YEA
[19:39] <flodine> rapage thats why im on fedora 15
[19:39] <LynxSpark124> sorry
[19:40] <LynxSpark124> I meant yeah
[19:40] <stephenthemartyr> soreau: windows 7 and tango studio(10.,4ubuntu)or avlinux or 64studio
[19:41] <soreau> stephenthemartyr: If you already have windows installed, just boot your flavor of ubuntu live, then select to install and auto-partition unless you want a specific partition setup in which case you would select manual partition option
[19:41] <xjliu> what is this?
[19:41] <r3m> i make an error, i put grub on my usbkey.... anybody can tell me how to set it on the hd
[19:41] <gentoo-intel> xjliu, what?
[19:41] <eric357> jrib: this is a Linode stack script called pantheon mercury.  I don't know why Karmic repos are enabled
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> LynxSpark124: I'd use terminal, its a little easier
[19:42] <soreau> xjliu: This is #ubuntu, the official support channel for the ubuntu operating system
[19:42] <xjliu> I am new to the Gnome, just logged in to the XChat.
[19:42] <xjliu> ic. thanks.
[19:42] <jrib> eric357: well there's some sort of attempt to pin the php packages to karmic versions; that's not really supported and is the cause of your problem
[19:42] <nathanel> i need help with udev but no one answers in #udev :(
[19:42] <gentoo-intel> xjliu, this is ubuntus irc channel
[19:43] <BrokenCog> Hello, I'm trying to display an app on my Ubuntu laptop and keep hitting "can't display <ip>:10.0 "  ... I've installed sshd, tried w&w/out ForwardX11Trusted, and yes xhost allows clients.  Is there some hiddin trick within gnome or Ubuntu??
[19:43] <eric357> jrib: okay, I'll inquire of the stack script maintainer.  Thanks.
[19:43] <xjliu> ok. thanks, gentoo-ubtek
[19:43] <soreau> nathanel: What do you need to do with udev?
[19:43] <stephenthemartyr> soreau: yea i goot that far but there are 3 small partitions that are really small so i dont know what tpo do
[19:43] <soreau> stephenthemartyr: You probably should just leave them as they are and just install ubuntu
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> stephenthemartyr: find out in what partition you installed win and erase all the rest, then re-partition
[19:44] <soreau> stephenthemartyr: In some cases, you may need to resize your windows partition from within windows
[19:45] <nathanel> soreau: i was told by Fuchs that it was the safe way to ask for automounting internall hdd devices, i found a rule on archwiki that i have slightly modified to avoid redisplaying sda1 (which is my main ubuntu disk (FS only)), i put the rule as 91-mount.rules and rebooted but my other drives and partitions fail to mount
[19:45] <stephenthemartyr> MonkeyDust: i just erased one of the 4 before and the system crashed and i had to do a fresh install
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> no gratitude either? did s/he just go?
[19:45] <warfaren> okay i tried all the advice you gave me but i can't manage to repair grub :(
[19:45] <soreau> nathanel: Are you using arch?
[19:46] <nathanel> soreau: ubuntu
[19:46] <warfaren> i assume i need to get to linux rescue somehow
[19:46] <stephenthemartyr> soreau: yea i did that and made 500gb of free space
[19:46] <nathanel> soreau: can i pastebin u the rule?
[19:47] <soreau> nathanel: I don't really know why you would ever need to mess with udev rules to automount internal hard drives.. /etc/fstab is what you'd want to setup correctly
[19:47] <warfaren> i have a new idea... i'll just remove this swap partition now and i'll run ubuntu setup again and maybe it will get fixed
[19:47] <soreau> stephenthemartyr: Then you should be good to go
[19:47] <Nastya> Hi there!
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> is lynxSpark124 around?
[19:47] <soreau> hi Nastya
[19:47] <Nastya> Have you heard about DLP systems?
[19:48] <nathanel> soreau: OMG! seriously... everyone i spoke to discouraged me and refuses to help bc of fstab input.. and now that i find udev you tell me fstab is the way to go...
[19:48] <Nastya> I'm realay worrying about it and want to know your opinions about them
[19:48] <nathanel> soreau: sorry if i snapped (i don't mean to be rude)
[19:48] <soreau> nathanel: What do you mean by fstab input?
[19:48] <Nastya> a DLP system is actually a spy system which checks your emails IMs and file transfer and report about it to your employer
[19:49] <soreau> Nastya: What does this have to do with ubuntu?
[19:49] <Fuchs> soreau: the problem is that he wanted to write a script which automatically adds lines to fstab based on fdisk -l  / udisks --enumerate
[19:49] <soreau> Fuchs: eep :P
[19:49] <Nastya> soreau: I want ubunu to protect me against DLP
[19:49] <Fuchs> soreau: which is a bad idea. If you have static data and you only add it once to fstab: agreed. If it has to be dynamically: udev or pmount
[19:50] <Fuchs> soreau: I was a way for a while, sorry.
[19:50] <nathanel> soreau: my original project was to be able to parse all my devices through udisks --enumerate-device-files, get UUID, LABEL and TYPE and the echo to fstab
[19:50] <soreau> Fuchs: No worries.. I'll let you handle it since you know what's going on
[19:50] <soreau> and that's beyond my field of expertise
[19:50] <Nastya> soreau: does it male sense?
[19:50] <Nastya> :)
[19:51] <Nastya> *make
[19:51] <nathanel> Fuchs: you're still in here?
[19:51] <Fuchs> nathanel: halfways
[19:51] <soreau> Nastya: I'm not sure why you'd be worried about such an attack
[19:51] <nathanel> Fuchs: http://pastebin.com/h3FCEhvt
[19:52] <Fuchs> nathanel: yes, looks like an automount rule
[19:52] <stephenthemartyr> soreau: in the live  install itg says that space is "unusable"
[19:52] <Fuchs> nathanel: if you want to mess around with the fstab, you could add it in the add command
[19:53] <Nastya> soreau: Because I want my data to be private. My emails and all other traffic. I guess it is possible to use some ciphering but... but i want to make it hidden
[19:53] <soreau> stephenthemartyr: I guess windows didn't properly free it then..
[19:53] <stephenthemartyr> soreau: do i need to make a blank partition in windows and mark it fat32 or somin then install?
[19:53] <Fuchs> nathanel: but again, I would _never_ modify the fstab in any kind of automation, unless I am really knowing what I am doing. Errors in there will render your system unbootable without a live-system
[19:53] <nathanel> Fuchs: I do agree with whatever way is the safest... but the rule does not mount anything.. the only one showing up is sda1 (main FS drive)
[19:53] <soreau> stephenthemartyr: No, you don't want to create a partition, you only want to shrink the windows partition
[19:53] <nathanel> Fuchs: the only reason being that it's loaded as an fstab entry
[19:54] <soreau> stephenthemartyr: Is it labeled as free space or a partition? (the 500GB)
[19:54] <Fuchs> nathanel: well, you could check with udevadm whether it matches,
[19:54] <Fuchs> nathanel: and since the rule was oringinally for a different distribution, look whether the files are where it expects them to be
[19:55] <nathanel> Fuchs: i have checked the sbin with grep.. it' all there
[19:55] <Whitesquall> Nastya: use i2p, tor, vpn for your paranoia :)
[19:55] <BrandonBolton> Hello, just out of curiosity. Is it possible to install Ubuntu One on different Linux Distributions? Like Fedora or OpenSUSE
[19:55] <ed_money> I just installed a b43* broadcom wireless card on a different machine and got it working. I then turned off the machine, and now the machine shows no wireless connection and under System->Hardware Drivers shows "No Proprietary drivers are in use on this system." Where would you start diagnosing this problem?
[19:55] <Fuchs> nathanel: another thing would be to write out the variables in a file for debugging
[19:55] <Fuchs> nathanel: so you see whether the rule even applies and if the variables are correct
[19:55] <stephenthemartyr> soreau: the partition graph free space,the partition table right under it "unusable"
[19:55] <Fuchs> nathanel: you can use echo and a file in /tmp/ for that
[19:56] <nathanel> echo the rule to "file" in tmp?
[19:56] <nathanel> Fuchs: echo the rule to "file" in tmp?
[19:56] <soreau> stephenthemartyr: Can you pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' to pastebin.com?
[19:57] <Fuchs> nathanel: any file you like, /tmp is sticky, you should be able to create one
[19:57] <Fuchs> nathanel: e.g.  /tmp/udev_rule_debug
[19:57] <lovabill> Whitesquall you can even on windows
[19:57] <nathanel> Fuchs: i know.. but i mean.. how do i do the debug as is
[19:57] <annecy> Hi,  I updated from the flexiondotorg ppa and now I have a black screen after logging out
[19:57] <Fuchs> nathanel: echo the variable to this file?
[19:58] <escott> BrandonBolton, yes and no. I'm sure you can run the client software on other distros, but depending on how the nautilus plugins work it may be a lot of work to integrate it with a precompiled version of nautilus shipped with some other distro
[19:58] <r3m> I have a blank screen with a blinkin cursor after reboot from install
[19:58] <stephenthemartyr> r3m: i had that
[19:58] <r3m> i try shift+e without success
[19:58] <annecy> The packages were for libglib2.0 and libc-bin.  The ppa is for Shotwell backport
[19:58] <stephenthemartyr> r3m: had to reinstall
[19:59] <r3m> stephenthemartyr: :(
[19:59] <fbdystang> r3m: did install complete?
[19:59] <r3m> yes
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> annecy: seems to be only for shotwell, so shouldn't give a black screen
[19:59] <BrandonBolton> escott, so it would be a lot of hard work probably is what you are saying. Thank you, I was just curious.
[19:59] <soreau> r3m: Did you check the md5sum of the image you used to install?
[20:00] <r3m> soreau: no
[20:00] <soreau> r3m: Did you run the built in cd checker utility?
[20:00] <fbdystang> r3m: same thing happened to me, I had to burn my iso at a slower speed
[20:00] <escott> BrandonBolton, it may not be work at all. I would look into how nautilus plugins work. If they don't need to be built in at compile time it should be easy
[20:00] <stephenthemartyr> soreau: pastebin.ubuntu.com/6918132
[20:00] <r3m> soreau: i use unetbootin and i select ubuntu netinstall 10.04 from the dropdown men
[20:00] <r3m> menu
[20:00] <annecy> I can't think what else it could be.  There is a large x instead of a pointer
[20:00] <alkafoo> annecy: can you move the X?
[20:00] <jojomo> I  have attempted doing a 10.04 -> 10.10 upgrade several times now, but it keeps hanging sometime after installing samba-common and around libgp & libarchive. the keyboard is unresponsive. the mouse continues to work, but new windows and menus do not work correctly. rebooting results in an incomplete grub/kernel install. no boot.
[20:01] <stephenthemartyr> soreau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/691813/
[20:01] <BrandonBolton> escott, Okay, I shall google it now. Thank you.
[20:01] <annecy> alkafoo: yes
[20:01] <nathanel> Fuchs: i'm so sorry, I'm just not familiar with the process.. i get the principle but it seems it's not returning anything
[20:01] <Fuchs> nathanel: echo $VARIABLE >> file
[20:02] <Fuchs> if it is not set: there is your problem, look where it is assigned
[20:02] <alkafoo> annecy: that means X is working, but that you might not have a window manager configured properly to actually load
[20:02] <nathanel> Fuchs: it should give me an error if it does not understand it?
[20:03] <Fuchs> nathanel: probably, but you'll never see it, since you are not executing this rule
[20:03] <annecy> alkafoo: i have compiled and openbox, but how do I start them?
[20:03] <linxeh> is there a big advantage to using kvm/qemu/xen over virtualbox?
[20:03] <soreau> stephenthemartyr: The first two likely belong to the windows 7 system, not sure what the other two are. Try deleting them from windows if they're not holding any valuable data
[20:04] <alkafoo> annecy: openbox?
[20:04] <annecy> alkafoo: sorry I meant compiz instead of compiled
[20:04] <soreau> annecy: compiz --replace or openbox --replace
[20:05] <alkafoo> annecy: are you using a login manager, like GDM?
[20:05] <annecy> alkafoo: yes gdm
[20:05] <alkafoo> annecy: there should be a button somewhere where you can change what window manager/desktop environment to use
[20:05] <alkafoo> annecy: if not read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox
[20:06] <annecy> alkafoo: nope only black screen
[20:06] <annecy> How can I restart window manager from try?
[20:06] <annecy> Sorry tty
[20:08] <daddy> i like big dicks
[20:08] <annecy> soreau: xterm xt error: can't open display.  I'm in tty
[20:09] <benoliver999> When downloading torrents overnight, my wireless car packs in and stops working. Networks are still listed, but none will connect, and when I restart network-manager I get 'device not ready'. I can fix this by shutting the whole computer down for a few seconds/minutes and rebooting.  Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:10] <Flannel> daddy: Please don't.
[20:10] <alkafoo> annecy: /etc/init.d/gdm restart maybe
[20:10] <alkafoo> annecy: might need to sudo it
[20:10] <soreau> Well, it's not appropriate there, either :P
[20:10] <daddy> oh noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo my face is gonna melt
[20:11] <annecy> soreau: could you clarify?
[20:11] <benoliver999> Weirldly enough, I get no trouble during the day.
[20:11] <[Relic]> Anyone know how long it takes for a new mouse to get functional or who does that type of dev?
[20:11] <soreau> benoliver999: The drivers are probably putting the card into a strange state
[20:11] <soreau> annecy: DISPLAY=:0 xterm
[20:11] <larstr> How do I stop the waves? I hit some weird key combo and now there are waves all over the screen. (using compiz)
[20:12] <alkafoo> soreau: annecy hasn't a window manager running
[20:12] <larstr> win+c doesn't help
[20:12] <soreau> annecy: If you run that from tty, when you go back to the tty X is on (usually ctrl+alt+F7), it should be running there
[20:12] <benoliver999> soreau: Thanks, I'll look into it.
[20:12] <alkafoo> soreau: won't be particularly helpful
[20:12] <soreau> annecy: Likewise, you can start a wm with 'DISPLAY=:0 compiz --replace' for example
[20:12] <annecy> soreau: What command exactly?
[20:12] <benoliver999> soreau: I wonder if it could be to do with the PC being idle for a long time.
[20:13] <auronandace> larstr: i think it is shift-f9
[20:13] <alkafoo> larstr: SHIFT+F9 ?
[20:13] <soreau> benoliver999: It's a bug in the driver or kernel. more likely than not, in the driver
[20:13] <alkafoo> awe
[20:13] <soreau> annecy: What desktop environment do you have installed if any?
[20:13] <larstr> auronandace: alkafoo: nope.. didn't have any effect
[20:14] <nathanel> Fuchs: no erros so far.. I don't get it
[20:14] <alkafoo> larstr: look in prefs, compiz should have a list of shortcuts somewhere
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> larstr: http://ulyssesonline.com/2007/10/25/compiz-fusion-keyboard-shortcuts/
[20:14] <annecy> soreau: gnome 2 on 10.04. The command says DISPLAY:0 COMMAND Not found
[20:15] <larstr> MonkeyDust: thx
[20:15] <soreau> annecy: You're doing it wrong. Try DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace
[20:15] <alkafoo> annecy: isn't GNOME 2 what 10.04 comes with by default?
[20:15] <howlymowly_> hi poeple.. i just tried upgrading to oneiric using the update manager and got this message:    An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[20:15] <howlymowly_> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[20:15] <howlymowly_> 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'
[20:15] <alkafoo> soreau: GNOME isn't even running yet
[20:15] <Fuchs> nathanel: are the disks already mounted?
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> annecy: prefix with:  export
[20:15] <soreau> ! 11.10 | howlymowly
[20:15] <nathanel> no
[20:15] <howlymowly_> any idea?
[20:15] <nathanel> Fuchs :only sda1 which is the FS
[20:16] <soreau> alkafoo: I explained to him this assumes X is running on another tty
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> howlymowly_: ubntu-bug packagename
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> howlymowly_: oneiric is offtopic here, it is discussed in #ubuntu+1 until release day
[20:16] <Fuchs> nathanel: well, next thing is: it only mounts them on events
[20:16] <alkafoo> that won't help annecy after a reboot
[20:16] <Fuchs> nathanel: so, as long as you don't un- and replug it, or reboot, it won't do anything
[20:16] <aaa> (ubuntu 11.04, gnome-classic) is there a way to set the date format (near the shutdown button) to a different format (say yyyy-mm-dd, instad of ddd mmm dd)?
[20:17] <soreau> alkafoo: Is X not starting on bootup for some reason?
[20:17] <nathanel> Fuchs: i did the reboot already... nothing mounts
[20:17] <nathanel> Fuchs: when i click in nautilus to mount, it says im not authorized
[20:17] <r3m> what is the version of the kernel that come with 10.04 please
[20:17] <nathanel> Fuchs: i should also mention the drives are all internal scsi - sata
[20:18] <soreau> r3m: uname -r should tell you.. I believe it's 2.6.35
[20:18] <alkafoo> soreau: X is starting, no window manager or DE is
[20:18] <Fuchs> nathanel: missing rights in gnome sounds like problems with consolekit to me
[20:18] <soreau> alkafoo: Sounds like he has bigger problems than just no wm/de
[20:18] <Fuchs> nathanel: or the entries being in fstab already, and you don't have the permission to mount
[20:19] <nathanel> Fuchs: i purged fstab entries
[20:19] <warfaren> alright ActionParsnip i fixed the problem  now.. phew
[20:19] <nathanel> Fuchs: except for sda1
[20:19] <ubuntu_aaaaa> I'm not sure if my installation froze on my how can i check?
[20:19] <aaa> (ubuntu 11.04, gnome-classic, noob) is there a way to set the date format (near the shutdown button) to a different format (say yyyy-mm-dd, instad of ddd mmm dd)?
[20:19] <warfaren> thanks @ all for your help!
[20:19] <rapage> I have a problem with my screen resolution the maximun detected is 800 x 600
[20:19] <rapage> I used cvt and the desired resolution then added the new mode then I could see it on >preferences > monitors but it gave me an error
[20:19] <gentoo-intel> aaa, probaby somewhere in the system settings menu
[20:20] <ed_money> I installed proprietary hardware drivers for a Broadcom wireless card and can see the directories for the cart in /lib/firmware. But when I go to System->Hardware Drivers, it says "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system." What would you do to diagnose this?
[20:20] <soreau> rapage: nvidia?
[20:20] <annecy> Export DISPLAY:=0 don't work
[20:21] <soreau> ed_money: How did you install the drivers?
[20:21] <ben_unity> Hi
[20:21] <soreau> annecy: case sensitive, it's 'export'
[20:21] <alkafoo> annecy: what is this PPA you used and why
[20:21] <soreau> annecy: What is the actual problem you are having and when did it start?
[20:21] <ben_unity> I have an issue with recording on Cheese on Ubuntu 11.04 with a Asus Eee PC 901 webcam
[20:21] <annecy> I know I'm on my smartphone doing this
[20:21] <alkafoo> ben_unity: yes?
, i looked in the Time&Date setting, it allows me to hide each part, but not set their order
[20:21] <ben_unity> It takes photos well, yet videos freeze
[20:21] <nathanel> Fuchs: ?
[20:22] <alkafoo> annecy: what input method are you using?
[20:22] <Benkinooby> hi, some1 knows a software to parse youtube videos. until now i made myself list of youtube links and fed them to vlc 1.1.11 as a playlist... but for some time it is not able to play youtube videos anymore :(
[20:22] <ben_unity> You click the 'Record' button and it goes black, then gets image, and freezes
[20:22] <Fuchs> nathanel: yes, no idea from here, then. Sorry
[20:22] <annecy> SwiftKey.  Just started with it today.  A bit weird
[20:22] <alkafoo> Benkinooby: youtube-dl, clive
[20:23] <javier__> Hi! I have ubuntu 11.04, which I use with Unity. But some time ago I was making some changes in "classic ubuntu" and the two status bar are dissapeared. How to bring them back?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> !panels
[20:23] <ed_money> soreau: with the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43_-_No_Internet_access. Using options "Installing b43 drivers, No Internet Access". After one restart, the wireless worked. But then I turned the machine off and on again, and now it doesn't work
[20:23] <soreau> javier__: You mean the top and bottom panels?
[20:23] <puck_cent> does anyone know where to download themes for lightdm?
[20:24] <javier__> ubottu: thanks a lot. That was exactly what I was looking for
[20:24] <gentoo-intel> puck_cent, I'd google "lightdm themes"
[20:24] <daddy> hi
[20:24] <soreau> ed_money: Does 'iwconfig' show a wireless interface?
[20:24] <Benkinooby> alkafoo, ok, thx for the hints
[20:24] <puck_cent> theank gentoo. Tried that and came up empty
[20:24] <Benkinooby> alkafoo, i know about youtube-dll but don't know clive
[20:24] <daddy> yo
[20:25] <soreau> Flannel: He's back
[20:25] <puck_cent> didnt know if I was missing something. guess not :(
[20:25] <javier__> soreau: yes, I meant that. My translation from spanish wasnt that good ;)
[20:25] <alkafoo> Benkinooby: there's one somewhere that will download an entire channel, might be clive I forget
[20:25] <ed_money> soreau: iwconfig shows "eth0      no wireless connections."
[20:25] <soreau> javier__: Make sure gnome-panel is running
[20:25] <daddy> bitches
[20:25] <nathanel> soreau: could you help with udev when you got a minute?
[20:25] <Benkinooby> alkafoo, i even don't want to download...
[20:25] <aaa> (ubuntu 11.04, gnome-classic, noob) is there a way to set the date format (near the shutdown button) to a different format (say yyyy-mm-dd, instad of ddd mmm dd)? i looked in the Time&Date setting, it allows me to hide each part, but not set their order.
[20:25] <ed_money> soreau: and also "lo     wireless extensions"
[20:25] <alkafoo> daddy: yo
[20:25] <daddy> hey niggas
[20:25] <daddy> yo
[20:25] <daddy> gay user
[20:25] <FloodBot1> daddy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:26] <soreau> ed_money: Make sure the driver module is loaded with 'lsmod'
[20:26] <soreau> ! ops | daddy
[20:26] <Benkinooby> alkafoo, i want to make my own youtube playlists in textfiles, and then feed them to a player... no need to download
[20:26] <daddy> weird red
[20:26] <Spacewalker> daddy: Please stop using the word "gay" as an insult. :/
[20:26] <soreau> nathanel: What you're trying to do is beyond my area of expertise, sorry
[20:26] <alkafoo> Benkinooby: you said VLC does that?  What's the problem?
[20:26] <ed_money> soreau: what am I looking for in the output of lsmod to know if the driver is loaded?
[20:26] <Benkinooby> alkafoo, it did... now it doesn't
[20:27] <Benkinooby> alkafoo, i use vlc 1.1.11 on ubuntu
[20:27] <soreau> ed_money: Whatever the name of the driver that's supposed to be loaded for your card :)
[20:27] <nathanel> soreau: so could we revert back to my original idea? i have a live usb ready in case anything goes boom! i'm on a test machine anyways
[20:27] <soreau> ed_money: I
[20:27] <alkafoo> Benkinooby: well something changed =)
[20:27] <Fuerte> !list
[20:27] <alkafoo> Benkinooby: figure out what and fix it
[20:27] <soreau> ed_money: I'm not that familiar with broadcom
[20:27] <Benkinooby> alkafoo, obvioulsy
[20:27] <javier__> ubottu: is it possible to turn classic ubuntu top panel into unity one? (I mean with those file ,edit, tools... bottoms in the same panel)
[20:27] <Fuerte> ciao
[20:27] <Fuerte> a tutti
[20:27] <Fuerte> !list
[20:27] <soreau> nathanel: I don't really know what you're trying to accomplish
[20:27] <javier__> ah, ok
[20:27] <alkafoo> javier__: perhaps you'd like to use 'unity 2d'
[20:27] <soreau> ! it | Fuerte
[20:27] <Benkinooby> alkafoo, i allready searched some forums and google - but no luck... that's why i am here
[20:28] <ed_money> soreau: nope, the driver does't show up. What baffles me is that it worked once, then after a restart it didn't
[20:28] <Fuerte> ! it
[20:28] <soreau> ed_money: That's fine, try 'sudo modprobe driver_name' to load it
[20:28] <soreau> ed_money: I'm not sure what driver_name should be
[20:28] <alkafoo> javier__: it's called gnome global menu, if you want to seek it out
[20:28] <macer1> !pl
[20:28] <alkafoo> Benkinooby: you should check your system update logs first
[20:28] <nathanel> soreau: i am making multiple scripts to configure my system automatically on fresh install, one of many being the ability to query all attached internal sata devices and partitions and set them to mount in fstab (by uuid)
[20:29] <macer1> Cool, ubottu knows about loco ubuntu channels :D
[20:29] <javier__> alkafoo: just i don't want unity bar, so I would like another dock
[20:29] <soreau> nathanel: I can't really help you with that
[20:29] <nathanel> soreau: why?
[20:29] <kurt_> hey!
[20:29] <ed_money> soreau: you rock. wish I could buy you a beer ;>
[20:29] <kurt_> how are you?!
[20:29] <soreau> nathanel: Because I don't know how to do that. You might try somewhere more advanced like ##linux
[20:30] <soreau> ed_money: Now to make it load by default, add the driver_name to /etc/modules on a single line
[20:30] <nathanel> soreau: ah.. sorry
[20:30] <alex-> When I switch my screen from 1600x1200 to 1920x1080 the top and bottom bar dissapear (they are there, but dont fit on the screen). I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 with Gnome 2. The screen is attached over HDMI interface.
[20:31] <soreau> alex-: Sounds like a graphics driver issue
[20:31] <aaa> (ubuntu 11.04, gnome-classic, noob) is there a way to set the date format (near the shutdown button) to a different format (say yyyy-mm-dd, instad of ddd mmm dd)? i looked in the Time&Date setting, it allows me to hide each part, but not set their order. it seams related to the language support -> regional settings, but i didn't find a way to edit it, just to change to preconfigured values
[20:31] <alex-> soreau: how to fix it?
[20:31] <soreau> alex-: What driver?
[20:32] <jrib> aaa: yes, it's set by your locale...
[20:32] <alex-> soreau: how can i see?
, but how do i edit it?
[20:32] <soreau> alex-: /var/log/Xorg.0.log would tell you or I can probably guess from the output of 'glxinfo|grep renderer'
[20:33] <alkafoo> alex-: you could try ending and re-starting the panel processes
[20:33] <egoga> Hello?
[20:33] <jrib> aaa: you can set LC_TIME if you wish
[20:33] <egoga> I have a question for you
[20:33] <egoga> I need to know
[20:33] <egoga> your words of love with your name on every wall
[20:33] <egoga> Why are texlive packages so BIG?
[20:33] <alex-> OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS880
[20:33] <egoga> Who the f*** uses texlive anyway
[20:33] <rapage> soreau,
[20:33] <egoga> ok then, soreau
[20:33] <rapage> it's an ati mobility 8mb agp
[20:34] <soreau> alex-: So it's radeon rs880. You might try asking in #radeon
[20:34] <rapage> I have a problem with my screen resolution the maximun detected is 800 x 600
[20:34] <soreau> rapage: nvidia?
[20:34] <alkafoo> egoga: you do, for starters
[20:34] <jrib> egoga: do you have an actual ubuntu support question you need help with?
[20:34] <rapage> ati 8mb agp from 2001
[20:34] <egoga> Yeah
[20:34] <egoga> Do I NEED texlive latex extra docs
[20:34] <jrib> egoga: only you can determine what you need
[20:34] <egoga> These programs like lilypond or texlive come with HUGE documentation files, larger than the programs themselves
[20:34] <alkafoo> extra docs?  Likely not, but it's been known to happen
[20:35] <soreau> rapage: You might not have enough vram to run at a higher resolution at 24/32 bit depth. Try using 16 bit depth
[20:35] <dpnux> hi. I was installing nvidia driver. how can I fix the ubuntu 10.04 splash?
[20:35] <Arthur7x> does somebody know how to make blaving records your voice on linux? it doesn't to me :(
[20:35] <alkafoo> dpnux: what's broken?
[20:35] <Arthur7x> the duration doesn't change so it basically does nothing to me
[20:35] <egoga> but apparently some programs depend on the documentation files
[20:35] <egoga> (why,m I don't know, but funny, you newbies don't know either)
, and how do i do that? is it in some configuration file?
[20:35] <alkafoo> there might be more than just docs in there
[20:35] <egoga> I really doubt any people in this channel have been using this Internet before 1999
[20:35] <dpnux> alkafoo: the splash screen with purple background
[20:35] <alkafoo> that happens sometimes
[20:35] <alkafoo> also sometimes devs hard depend docs for no particularly good reason =P
[20:35] <dpnux> alkafoo: it's so ugly
[20:35] <alkafoo> if you think it's a bug, file a bug report
[20:36] <alkafoo> dpnux: heh
[20:36] <rapage> monitor preferences program don't allow me to select bit depth of any kind
[20:36] <rapage> soreau,
[20:36] <jrib> aaa: no.  I'm afraid I don't have time to walk you through this.  Read about locales.  LC_TIME is just an environment variable you can set
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> dpnux: do you mean the login screen, or the boot animation?
[20:36] <soreau> rapage: You have to set it in xorg.conf IIRC
[20:36] <Arthur7x> I can't record my voice on blaving, I mean, I play record button and it works, but it doesn't seem like if it recorded anything, my micro works on skype ); thx
[20:36] <egoga> oh yeah
[20:36] <dpnux> ActionParsnip: the boot animation
[20:36] <jrib> aaa: note there may exist another way I am not aware of
[20:36] <egoga> for nVidia X servers, does it require kernel modifications?
[20:36] <egoga> like kernel modules and a recompile?
[20:37] <egoga> MASAD
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> dpnux: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/   forces the fb driver and will make it show
[20:37] <wakko222> I am running a mythbuntu box with a wireless connection, that then shares the eth0 connection out to my HDTV.  The default sharing IP address is <IP_ADDRESS>.  The TV is able to connect to the internet fine, but it gets seperated from the rest of the network.  Can I change the <IP_ADDRESS> address to something that will work with the rest of my network?
[20:37] <aaa> how do i set  LC_TIME?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> dpnux: the proprietary driver loads slowly, so you get no boot splash
[20:37] <egoga> like kernel modules and a recompile?
[20:37] <egoga> for nVidia X servers, does it require kernel modifications?
[20:37] <dpnux> ActionParsnip: okay. will check it, thanks.
[20:37] <egoga> THIS IS WHAT YOU GET FOR NOT ANSWERING!
[20:38] <egoga> THIS IS WHAT YOU GET FOR NOT ANSWERING!!
[20:38] <FloodBot1> egoga: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <aaa> ok, thanks
[20:38] <soreau> -
[20:38] <soreau> -_-
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> oh dear
[20:39] <soreau> ActionParsnip: That's what you get for not answering, apparently :P
[20:39] <Arthur7x> how do I update the flash plugin?
[20:39] <Arthur7x> xubuntu
[20:39] <soreau> Arthur7x: very carefully
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> soreau: zing!
[20:39] <wakko222> I am running a mythbuntu box with a wireless connection, that then shares the eth0 connection out to my HDTV.  The default sharing IP address is <IP_ADDRESS>.  The TV is able to connect to the internet fine, but it gets seperated from the rest of the network.  Can I change the <IP_ADDRESS> address to something that will work with the rest of my network?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Arthur7x: its in the repos
[20:40] <javier__> so, someone knows if I use gnome global menu or appmenu in classic ubuntu (11.04)?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Arthur7x: if you use 64bit OS, there is a PPA with the 11.02 flash rc in 64bit
[20:40] <soreau> wakko222: What do you mean 'it gets seperated from the rest of the network'?
[20:40] <Arthur7x> ActionParsnip, Skype works well to me, but I've started on a Social Network called Blaving and when I try to record my voice it doesn't seem to be recording itself on the website, so I don't know what is it actually happening T_T my micro works well
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> Arthur7x: is your OS 64bit?
[20:42] <Arthur7x> No ActionParsnip :S
[20:42] <wakko222> soreau: the rest of my network is a 192.168.*.*  There is an Android app that lets me control my tv, but my TV had a 10.42.43.* IP and the Android device has a 192.168.*.* IP.
[20:44] <djbox> Is there anyway i can simplified to uninstall all the fresh install ubuntu bloatware with command??
[20:44] <soreau> wakko222: right.. so you'd want to set a static ip for eth0 from which you're sharing the connection
[20:45] <wakko222> soreau: yes, but I don't know how as the eth0 shared doesn't allow you to change the settings, at least not with NM
[20:45] <rapage> soreau, I'll try xorg then
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> djbox: how do you mean?
[20:46] <soreau> wakko222: I know how to do it with masquerading manually, but not with NetworkManager built-in stuff
[20:46] <soreau> wakko222: See if it has an option to set a static ip while still sharing the connection mayb e
[20:46] <mukti> Is there any was to see a "live output" of the current temperature of my machine?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> djbox: do you mean uninstall a recently installed app?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> !sensor | mukti
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> !sensors | mukti
[20:47] <soreau> wakko222: Yea I know, that's why I just chmod -x NetworkManager and do it all with scripts and such
[20:47] <mukti> ActionParsnip: I know about that, but I mean one that will display the temperature, then update them as they change
[20:47] <wakko222> soreau: can you give me a link to a guide on doing that?
[20:48] <soreau> wakko222: If you google for 'ubuntu connection sharing' there is a rough guide though it's a bit outdated
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> mukti: there is xsensors as well as some conky code which will display it
[20:48] <djbox> ActionParsnip, both . You know when you recently install a fresh ubuntu and it contains those games
[20:48] <djbox> ActionParsnip and trying out those games out
[20:48] <wakko222> soreau: thank you
[20:49] <mukti> ActionParsnip: i don't really want to run it with conky, just through the command line. I guess I could just write a script
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> djbox: I'm familiar, if you run: sudo apt-get --purge remove aislerot gbrainy gnomine gnome-mahjong   it should work
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> mukti: sudo sensors    will show the temps etc, you could make a script to loop it round
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> djbox: you get the idea, personally I use the minimal install and work up as a default ubuntu desktop has far too much fluff which I simply don't use. Takes me longer to gut it than to build up
[20:52] <djbox> ActionParsnip,  what os your using right now?
[20:53] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, careful suggesting mini, it's what lead me away from ubuntu ;)  Mini and a comment from rww actually.
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> djbox: oneiric I use mainly LXDE but switch to Gnome+Unity so I can support it
[20:54] <[SPSU]Zach> i dont like the new scrollbars in 11.04 is there an option to switch back to the old ones?
[20:54] <djbox> ActionParsnip, so far found out the games are located /usr/games contains the game name
[20:55] <djbox> I see
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> [SPSU]Zach: http://mikebeach.org/2011/05/disable-the-overlay-scrollbars-in-ubuntu-natty/
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> djbox: they are all part of packages, just remove the package and it will remove
[20:57] <Defusal> When attempting to set my gateway for my wireless interface using the gui settings, ubuntu refuses to save the correct address and can only save <IP_ADDRESS> or if i enter "2", it saves <IP_ADDRESS>... How can I manually override these settings to work around the bugged GUI interface? It appears to not use /etc/network/interfaces
[20:58] <djbox> ActionParsnip I'm not sure if i'm doing this correctly. Is it sudo apt-get --purge remove  ___________
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> djbox: gbrainy gnome-mahjong gnomine aislerot qudrapassel
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> Defusal: in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:59] <djbox> ActionParsnip, how did you get that whole list of name so quick
[21:00] <Defusal> MonkeyDust: then why does the gui not update /etc/network/interfaces
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> djbox: I typed it
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> djbox: I used my head I guess
[21:01] <rapage> anybody knows how to format the mbr of a usb drive
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> Defusal: maybe report it to the developpers
[21:01] <th0r> Defusal: I think the way it works is that /etc/network/interfaces is ignored if network manager is set to handle the interface. You might consider replacing network manager with wicd
[21:01] <rapage> when I insert it and want to format it says is mounted when I unmount it it says it can't find partition what should I do :?
[21:01] <satellit_> rapage: gparted?
[21:02] <tom3p> a box with 8.04(ext3) cant see partitions with 10.04(ext4), will i be able to see the ext4 from another box over a lan?
[21:02] <th0r> Defusal: but if you are talking about the routing gateway, it is set using route, not network/interfaces
[21:02] <rapage> wait
[21:02] <alkafoo> rapage: what are you trying to do?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> djbox: some of the spelling may be off but you can tab complete stuff
[21:02] <rapage> no with disk utility
[21:02] <Defusal> th0r, it is? i remember setting the gateway in network/interfaces for ubuntu server
[21:02] <alkafoo> tom3p: not likely
[21:03] <noob1> Does Ubuntu have a program equivalent to TeamViewer?
[21:03] <rapage> alkafoo, I'm trying to eliminate posibility of virus on the usb mbr
[21:03] <alkafoo> noob1: it comes with a VNC server and client
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> noob1: what's teamviewer?
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> noob1: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/03/install-teamviewer-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[21:03] <alkafoo> rapage: you could wipe it with dd
[21:03] <noob1> A windows program allowing remote control of another computer.
[21:03] <rapage> what does it wipe the mbr or partition
[21:04] <alkafoo> rapage: either, depending on what params you give it
[21:04] <th0r> Defusal: I believe you can set the dns servers there, but the default gateway is set with the route command. I believe it can be set by dhcp, but I don't think it is defined in /etc/network/interfaces
[21:04] <rapage> I never used dd
[21:04] <CT1> Hi.  I have Win7 and Natty installed and want to add WinXP.  I have a free primary partition for XP but have never installed in that order(XP=>Win7=>Ubuntu I've done before and all was working fine.)  How can I install XP without trashing Win7 and Natty booting?
[21:04] <escott> !vnc | noob1
[21:04] <satellit_> gparted  Device/create partition table...works
 Thanks.
[21:04] <alkafoo> rapage: is there anything on the disk you need to keep at the moment?
[21:04] <Defusal> th0r, im pretty sure it is, i've never needed to manually route it in the past, but alright, thanks
[21:05] <escott> rapage, having a usb device mounted should not affect your ability to manipulate the mbr
[21:05] <noob1> Thanks all.
[21:05] <alkafoo> CT1: you'll just need to reinstall GRUB afterwards
[21:05] <rapage> escott, but the error msg says something like usb is busy when the partition is mounted
[21:05] <alkafoo> CT1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[21:05] <rapage> and when is ejected it says no partitions are l oaded
[21:06] <alkafoo> CT1: I must say, though, that installing Windows 7 and XP both seems like a waste of time
[21:06] <rapage> alkafoo, why does it matter
[21:06] <alkafoo> rapage: if it doesn't I could give you the dd command for wiping it entirely
[21:06] <rapage> I want to wipe off all chances of virus on the mrb
[21:06] <rapage> I'll do dd then
[21:06] <th0r> Defusal: looks like we were both sort of right....http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-debian-ubutnu-set-default-gateway-ipaddress/
[21:08] <alkafoo> rapage: probably dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo count=1 bs=512, make sure you get the right /dev/foo
[21:08] <CT1> alkafoo: Thankyou VERY much for the link.  Much appreciated!  [Time I have, and some classic 16bit "windows" games that won't run in Win7 64bit or under virtualbox (Wine seems to run them fine but "Time I have") Thanks again!
[21:08] <massvorez> Hello - I am using some other distro rather than Ubuntu but it is Ubuntu based. The only problem is that it does not have Canonical download manager. How could I install in into my other distro?
[21:08] <auronandace> !derivatives | massvorez
[21:08] <alkafoo> CT1: Windows but not DOS? http://www.dosbox.com/comp_list.php?letter=a
[21:09] <rapage> wha';ts /foo
[21:09] <alkafoo> rapage: it's a placeholder for the real device name
[21:09] <alkafoo> make sure you get the right device
[21:09] <alkafoo> CT1: also 7 can run programs in a compatibility mode if you right-click the exe/launcher, and some versions of the xp mode virtualization, too
[21:10] <CT1> alkafoo: That it can, but not 16bit on 64bit win7
[21:10] <alkafoo> how tedious
[21:10] <alkafoo> you gamers =P
[21:11] <rapage> I got 1+0 records in
[21:11] <rapage> 1+0 records out
[21:11] <rapage> 512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.00404325 s, 127 kB/s
[21:11] <rapage> how do I know it got rid of the previous mbr content
[21:12] <CT1> alkafoo: Not a "gamer" as such, more a "living in the past... Command & Conquer, Commandos etc.. :p
[21:12] <Seveas> rapage, dd if=/dev/foo bs=512 count=1 | less
[21:12] <alkafoo> rapage: dd if=/dev/foo of=path/to/foo.file count=1 bs=512 && file path/to/foo.file
[21:12] <Seveas> that should give you nothing but ^@
[21:12] <alkafoo> or that =P
[21:13] <alkafoo> CT1: I do that every now and then, but not to the point of installing Windows to a hard disk =P
[21:13] <alkafoo> most of my favorite old timey games are DOS anyways
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> CT1: Command and Conquer rocks
[21:14] <FoxtrotZero> So i'm downloading the Ubuntu ISO. I'm going to be able to trial the OS from the disk?
[21:14] <alkafoo> I think there are some Linux native C&C clones
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> FoxtrotZero: yes it will run in a RAM drive
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> faxremember to MD5 test the ISO so you know it's good
[21:14] <FoxtrotZero> ActionParsnip: Hmm. Do I need a specific amount of RAM for that to work? Because I have an uber low amount.
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> alkafoo: http://home.mayn.de/comrad/freecnc/
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> FoxtrotZero: anything more than 256Mb will work
[21:15] <rapage> I did that and it gave me @@@@
[21:15] <alkafoo> FoxtrotZero: no, but really fancy effects might be auto-disabled
[21:15] <rapage> how do I know it finished
[21:15] <alkafoo> rapage: because the process gave you a new prompt
[21:15] <rapage> what do i do there? I p-ress q and exit
[21:15] <Cyrax5> Guys I need to burn to a dual layer disc. I have my iso image and the dvd file but how should I go about burning it?
[21:15] <alkafoo> rapage: that's all
[21:15] <gentoo-intel> Cyrax5, same as usual
[21:16] <FoxtrotZero> ActionParsnip: Alright. Now, if I decide I want to install Ubuntu, i'm probably going to want to create a new partition. Any reccomendations on how to go about that?
[21:16] <rapage> did that get rid of the mbr content
[21:16] <alkafoo> Cyrax5: get yourself a USB stick instead
[21:16] <alkafoo> rapage: yes
[21:16] <rapage> nice
[21:16] <alkafoo> rapage: it replaced it with 0's
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> alkafoo: http://www.boswars.org/  seems the other project is dead afaics
[21:16] <Cyrax5> gentoo-intel How'd you mean same as usual?
[21:16] <alkafoo> FoxtrotZero: what do you have on there now, a Windows partition taking up everything?
[21:16] <gentoo-intel> Cyrax5, burn as you would any cd /dvd
[21:17] <gentoo-intel> Cyrax5, are you on windows?
[21:17] <FoxtrotZero> alkafoo: The only partitions I know of are C, which is my Windows XP copy, and D, which is a several-gigabyte drive for my computer's "system restore" feature. I have well over 130 GB free on my HDD.
[21:17] <Cyrax5> gentoo-intel where in the ubuntu help channel. I'm using ubuntu
[21:17] <Doonz> Hi, In a bash script if i have a text file that is only 1 line how would i parse that one line out into a variable
[21:17] <gentoo-intel> Cyrax5, sorry i assumed it was an ubuntu isp
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> FoxtrotZero: you canresizae the NTFS in the liveCD and install to that
[21:18] <mk> does hwinfo give current information, or does it cache it? I just switched a drive to a new computer and I can't tell if I'm getting old info, or new
[21:18] <gentoo-intel> Cyrax5, use brasero / whatever disk burner
[21:18] <alkafoo> FoxtrotZero: okay, then you can either use D and sacrifice your restore, or resize C (after defragging) and make a new partition
[21:18] <FoxtrotZero> alkafoo: Right. Is there some software I need to create a new partition?
[21:18] <mk> how do I get hardware info for my computer that isn't out of date?
[21:19] <FoxtrotZero> mk: Who makes your computer?
[21:19] <salvatore> E: cups: il sottoprocesso vecchio script di post-installation ha restituito lo stato di errore 1
[21:19] <salvatore> aiuto!
[21:19] <Cyrax5> gentoo-intel I don't think brasero supports .dvd files.
[21:19] <alkafoo> Doonz: source path/to/file
[21:19] <mk> FoxtrotZero: I built the previous one; the current one I have no idea, just a box laying around. Compaq?
[21:19] <alkafoo> Doonz: or, at least that works if you have FOO=bar in the file
[21:19] <djbox> How i install  openssh in ubuntu?
[21:19] <alkafoo> Doonz: ask #bash for more
[21:19] <djbox> safetly?
[21:19] <massvorez> What do you guys recommend me in order to learn Ubuntu OS? Any video tuts or books? Anything? I am so damn hungry for information..!!!
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> djbox: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[21:20] <mk> massvorez: install it, then do whatever you usually do
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> masen: just use the OS
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> !manual | masen
[21:20] <alkafoo> massvorez: if you have a question about something, ask here
[21:20] <FoxtrotZero> mk: Well if it's a compaq, the most relevent info you can probably get is from HP's support website. Obviously, anything you or a previous owner has modified is different from those specs, but I would expect you to be aware of that.
[21:20] <alkafoo> FoxtrotZero: yes, you'll probably want gparted
[21:20] <alkafoo> FoxtrotZero: which I believe is included on the Ubuntu live image
[21:20] <Cyrax5> Guys what burner can I use that supports the usage of .dvd files?
[21:21] <massvorez> ok thanks
[21:21] <FoxtrotZero> alkafoo: I suppose we'll see. I guess I should defrag then.
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> Cyrax5: what is a .dvd file?
[21:21] <mk> FoxtrotZero: I'm looking specifically for the cpu spec, for the old and new machine. I can't boot the old machine, and the new (compaq) is giving me stats very similar to the old machine
[21:21] <alkafoo> Cyrax5: run 'file foo.dvd'
[21:21] <mk> so either the newer machine has the same cpu as my old one, or I'm getting outdated info when I run hwinfo
[21:21] <FoxtrotZero> alkafoo: Perhaps you can inform me of how partitions work. It's basically like having different hard drives inside one physical hard drive, right?
[21:22] <mk> the heatsink is glued to the cpu on both, so I can't just pop that off to look at it
[21:22] <alkafoo> FoxtrotZero: yes, "partitions" in the drive
[21:22] <massvorez> I would like to master the command line - does anyone recommend me anything about it?
[21:22] <FoxtrotZero> mk: You've lost me. I'm not exactly an expert on this.
[21:22] <alkafoo> FoxtrotZero: your Windows partitions are probably taking up the entire drive
[21:22] <alkafoo> FoxtrotZero: they'll show up as /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2, probably, or there might be one or two very small ones before the larger ones used as C and D in Windows
[21:23] <mk> FoxtrotZero: the computer has things like drives and cpus. I can't see what's written on my cpus, but I'd like to know their version
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> massvorez: just use it when you would use GUI, like moving files and such, you'll become more comfortable if you start with basic stuff like that
[21:23] <alkafoo> FoxtrotZero: you want to determine which is used as C and resize it, then make a new one in the empty space for Ubuntu
[21:23] <alkafoo> FoxtrotZero: but defrag C from inside Windows first
[21:23] <mk> how can I get system information?
[21:23] <alkafoo> mk: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[21:23] <FoxtrotZero> alkafoo: I'm willing to bet. So, if I get a virus on C and everything is wiped out, but I backed it up on another partition, I could restore my information from that partition.