[09:10] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: for a cleaner output "getent passwd | cut -d: -f1"
[09:10] <joginder> how can can list the users in graphical mode?
[09:11] <Raliegh> No, they aren't sadly.
[09:11] <Raliegh> Mostly Windows, and MacOSX.
[09:11] <joginder> how we can list the display of users in graphical view?
[09:11] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: go to "system settings" -> "users and group". that will only list desktop users though, but that's probably all you want anyways
[09:12] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: well, linux and macOS are fairly simple since you just ask them to install the ssh client, then write a 2 line bash script to log in and run it.
[09:12] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: for windows they'll need to use something like Putty
[09:12] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: hold on, why would they need to run the restart command?
[09:13] <llutz> Raliegh: i haven't followed your whole issue, but maybe this might help http://binblog.info/2008/10/20/openssh-going-flexible-with-forced-commands/
[09:13] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: start/stop I could kind of understand, but why restart?
[09:13] <joginder> how we can download the new wallpapers?
[09:13] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: I have a funny feeling you're trying to do something the hard way...
[09:14] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: what new wallpapers?
[09:14] <joginder> new wallpapers means desktop backgrounds.
[09:15] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: yes I know that, but what *new* ones?
[09:15] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: could you post a link/etc?
[09:15] <nlici> good day
[09:15] <nlici> can i have a help please
[09:15] <DarwinSurvivor> nlici: good day and welcome to the #ubuntu channel
[09:15] <DarwinSurvivor> nlici: don's ask to ask, just ask :)
[09:15] <nlici> trying to download Avast to my 10.11
[09:16] <nlici> sorry 11.10
[09:16] <nlici> tar.gaz. file
[09:16] <DarwinSurvivor> nlici: the anti-virus program...?
[09:16] <nlici> yes
[09:16] <nlici> i download it
[09:16] <nlici> from the site
[09:16] <DarwinSurvivor> nlici: why do you need an anti-virus program?
[09:16] <nlici> i am a new user
[09:16] <joginder> please give a link for installing motions background screens.
[09:16] <nlici> they told me in some cases linux can be infacted as well
[09:17] <llutz> nlici: not by virusses those snakeoil-software would find
[09:17] <GVolkmann> nlici: don't download garbage and install, only install from the repos, keep your system updated,  you'll be fine :)
[09:18] <joginder> give me a link for installing new screen backgrounds
[09:18] <GVolkmann> (garbage meaning...avast,  or packages on internet)
[09:18] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: are there any backgrounds in particular that you want (new Maverick ones, etc) or just some backgrounds in general?
[09:18] <Raliegh> DarwinSurvivor, I want them to run the restart command because sometimes the streams quit and terminate for various reasons. If I'm not online to restart it FOR them, and they have a planned event... I get yelled at, and lowered reputation.
[09:19] <Raliegh> I'll be reading that llutz, thank you.
[09:19] <joginder> what is the command to delete a user?
[09:19] <llutz> joginder: sudo deluser username
[09:19] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: do you know what is causing them to die in the first place?
[09:19] <Raliegh> Also, DarwinSurvivor, I ship for basic in a week and a half. I won't be around for a looong time if this happens. Sure, I'm passing temp controls to a close friend, but I still want my clients to be able to restart their stream when applicable.
[09:20] <Raliegh> DarwinSurvivor, it rarely happens, but it does happen. Sometimes it's some silly Shoutcast bugs (like Windows XP using VDJ not sending proper icy headers), sometimes it's simply a small DDoS attack (rare, but does occur)
[09:21] <Raliegh> There are various reasons, and I want my clients to be prepared and able to fix it when it does.
[09:21] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: you are not going to find a script that does what the ssh client does, so you are going to either need to have the server restart the streams automatically (cron job, watcher daemon, etc) or create some kind of interface for doing it (you could build it into a simple PHP page if you like).
[09:21] <joginder> command to create a new user?
[09:22] <llutz> joginder: you have been told
[09:23] <joginder> when i am creating a new user then it is asking for a unix password why?
[09:23] <nlici> OK
[09:23] <Raliegh> Woah wait, there's a way to have them restart automatically? I MUST know about this. If it is above my capabilities, I will pay for it to be done.
[09:24] <llutz> joginder: because a user should have a password
[09:25] <nlici> THANKS
[09:26] <nlici> every advice counts
[09:26] <joginder> what is the command to add new user with password?
[09:27] <Raliegh> adduser
[09:27] <Raliegh> I think
[09:27] <Raliegh> Or it's useradd
[09:27] <nlici> @Gvolkman thanks
[09:27] <Raliegh> One of the two.
[09:27] <schnuffle> joginder: there's a -b option to give the password in the command
[09:27] <FloodBot1> Raliegh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:27] <Raliegh> Yeah yeah Mr. Bot.
[09:27] <nlici> @llulz thanks
[09:27] <thunder1212> my laptop does not shut down please help identify what the issue could be..
[09:27] <nlici> @darvinj thanks
[09:28] <jrib> joginder: use « adduser »
[09:28] <llutz> joginder: why don't you just follow the "adduser" output?
[09:28] <llutz> joginder: it asks all infor you basically need
[09:28] <DarwinSurvivor> adduser is an interactive prompt (it asks questions), useradd wants all the details as command line options. (I belive adduser actually calls useradd after asking the questions).
[09:29] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: how long of a pause between crash and restart is acceptable?
[09:29] <mogaj> please guide me While installing gimp from software center am getting this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/917161/ My OS ubuntu 11.10
[09:29] <DarwinSurvivor> are we talking miliseconds, seconds, minutes or 5-10 minutes?
[09:29] <schnuffle> oops,the -b option is different on linux
[09:29] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: once again, have you installed *ANY* PPA's?
[09:30] <joginder> how to switch to the rootuser?
[09:30] <llutz> !sudo | joginder
[09:30] <Raliegh> Darwin~ Anytime under 2 minutes preferable. Doesn't really matter.
[09:30] <schnuffle> joginder: use sudo
[09:30] <thunder1212> joginder: su root
[09:30] <ryanyeah> joginder: su -
[09:30] <llutz> thunder1212: fail
[09:30] <llutz> ryanyeah: fail too
[09:30] <nlici> another question
[09:30] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: are you familiar with cron/crontab?
[09:30] <schnuffle> thunder1212: that'snot working as the root account is disbaled by default
[09:30] <nlici> i have android
[09:30] <nlici> i download jump remote desctop control
[09:30] <ryanyeah> llutz: what you talking about?
[09:31] <thunder1212> schnuffle: then do sudo passwd
[09:31] <Oxygen02> Hello guys. I Having a problem with qemu/kvm. I don't really know where the problem relies. but this is the error. I also asked at #qemu.
[09:31] <nlici> i made the settings of remoite control i enabled it ]
[09:31] <llutz> ryanyeah: su - fails with a disabled root-account, which is default at *buntu
[09:31] <nlici> but still i can not able to acces
[09:31] <nlici> what can be the problem
[09:31] <Oxygen02> error: Failed to start domain hk-mysql2
[09:31] <nlici> any help about it ?
[09:31] <schnuffle> thunder1212: then you activated your account without any need to do so
[09:31] <Oxygen02> error: operation failed: failed to retrieve chardev info in qemu with 'info chardev'
[09:31] <Oxygen02> Using ubuntu 10.0.4
[09:31] <joginder> i have not allot any password for the root user at the time of installing ubuntu , how i can enter in root user now?
[09:32] <ryanyeah> llutz: he didn't even specify it wasn't disabled. he asked and i answered, so cry more
[09:32] <thunder1212> schnuffle: my laptop does not shut down..
[09:32] <Raliegh> Not in the slightest DarwinSurvivor
[09:32] <jrib> ryanyeah: as this is #ubuntu, we should assume the root account is locked.  Please just use the !sudo factoid in the future so users can learn about how ubuntu is setup by default and can decide what they want to do from there
[09:32] <schnuffle> joginder: to give a root passwd use:sudo passwd,but its advied not to do so.normally you don't need to activate.to work as root use sudo -i
[09:32] <GVolkmann> nlici: I suggest keeping your inquiries to a single line. You don't describe what sort of error you are experiencing. My guess, networking. but then again, we don't know what client you are using,  what server you are using (VLC I guess?)..soo, a bit of specificity is requried.
[09:32] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: WHY do you want to be the root user. 99% of linux users will NEVER need to log in as root, sudo is more than enough. I run 24/7 servers and my root account is deactivated on ALL of them
[09:33] <schnuffle> DarwinSurvivor: +1
[09:33] <nlici> yes youa re right i am sorry
[09:33] <schnuffle> thunder1212:  and what do you want me to do?
[09:33] <dansul> Hello
[09:33] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor : donno ... how can i know that?
[09:34] <dansul> Does anyone use ubuntu with gnome-fallback ?
[09:34] <ryanyeah> jrib: so ubuntu has a preference to lock down root because it is a desktop? because all the servers i administrate use root
[09:35] <jrib> ryanyeah: on a default ubuntu (server or dekstop) install, the root account is locked so you can use sudo but can't login as sudo using su for example
[09:35] <schnuffle> ryanyeah: all my servers have root disbaledand stillI can manage them
[09:35] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: in normal operation, are all your streams running, or do they started and stopped at various times for any reason?
[09:36] <Raliegh> They're always running sir~
[09:36] <vectorshelve> how can I change the desktop Interface of Ubuntu ?
[09:36] <Raliegh> Preferably want to keep it that way.
[09:36] <thunder1212> when i send the shutdown command.. it gets stuck somewhere in between.. and i have to manually shutdown the system by pressing the power button
[09:36] <vectorshelve> from the side task bar to normal.. upper taskbar view ?
[09:36] <jrib> vectorshelve: install your preffered desktop environment's package and then choose at the login screen what type of session you would like to start
[09:36] <DarwinSurvivor> !cron
[09:37] <DarwinSurvivor> !cron Raliegh
[09:37] <georgelappies> does rsync work for the daily images as well?
[09:37] <vectorshelve> jrib: yes by default there will be two right
[09:37] <jrib> vectorshelve: hmm, which two?
[09:37] <nlici> i download the jumpdescremote control aplication , i had to set it manually first i choose the vnc and enter to adress my static ip  after that i enable the ubuntu for remote but when i am trying to access through my android it gives the same error of "check the computer adress and make sure the computer s firewall is configured to allow incoming remote desktop connections"
[09:37] <Raliegh> DarwinSurvivor, that says times~ I take it that's also encompassing if the process isn't running as well?
[09:38] <joginder> is the redhat linux and ubuntu commands are same?
[09:38] <vectorshelve> jrib: I just need the very normal interface
[09:38] <jrib> joginder: not all
[09:38] <vectorshelve> jrib: remove the unity interface
[09:38] <jrib> vectorshelve: unity is the "normal" (default) interface
[09:39] <joginder> how much percent ubuntu commands are similar like linux?
[09:39] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: what you would want to do is set up a cron job that runs on a regular basis (every minute or 2) that checks if each stream is still running and restarts any that aren't (you can even have it log and/or e-mail you every time it finds one)
[09:39] <vectorshelve> jrib: ok then change it to the other UI...
[09:39] <jrib> joginder: the package management commands will differ
[09:39] <vectorshelve> jrib: which is there in the system... or only unity is there by default in the system ?
[09:39] <jrib> !nounity | vectorshelve
[09:39] <Raliegh> Too sweet. Darwin, if I can't figure out how to do this properly (I seem to be a fan of breaking things) would you care to help me for payment?
[09:39] <schnuffle> Raliegh: an alternqative is monit
[09:40] <vectorshelve> ubottu: mine is ubuntu 10.04
[09:40] <joginder> what is the command to give an ip address ?
[09:40] <jrib> vectorshelve: I'm not aware of another one available by default.  But you can go to your login screen and see what's available for your session type.
[09:40] <jrib> joginder: ip addr
[09:40] <schnuffle> joginder: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:40] <vectorshelve> jrib: ok thanks..
[09:40] <nlici> i download the jumpdescremote control aplication , i had to set it manually first i choose the vnc and enter to adress my static ip  after that i enable the ubuntu for remote but when i am trying to access through my android it gives the same error of "check the computer adress and make sure the computer s firewall is configured to allow incoming remote desktop connections"
[09:41] <joginder> can u tell me a command to give an ip address with example?
[09:41] <jrib> joginder: I just did
[09:41] <joginder> example plz?
[09:41] <jrib> joginder: "ip addr"
[09:41] <RedBunny> can someone tell me why i keep looking my title bar on my programs like folder and ftp ,... they keep disapearing and i cant move them,....?
[09:42] <GVolkmann> nlici: check out how to enable a VNC server on ubuntu, google it. i would imagine that will get you in the right direction.
[09:42] <schnuffle> joginder: http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=2961
[09:44] <DarwinSurvivor> nlici: !vnc
[09:44] <nlici> OK
[09:44] <DarwinSurvivor> hmm, guess ubottu doesn't know that one :P
[09:44] <DarwinSurvivor> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[09:45] <nlici> i am cheking it , thanks for the link
[09:45] <yeats> !vnc
[09:45] <yeats> DarwinSurvivor: the ! has to be first ;-)
[09:46] <joginder> how we can exit from vi editor?
[09:46] <jrib> joginder: <Escape>:q<Enter>
[09:46] <jrib> joginder: you should run « vimtutor » if you want to learn to use vim
[09:47] <Steevca> I have some problems with flash,how do i uninstall it compleatly?
[09:47] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: vectorshelve has a good point.  to quit and discard changes
[09:48] <DarwinSurvivor> !vim
[09:49] <DarwinSurvivor> well, that was uninformative...
[09:50] <joginder> how we can display the ip address?
[09:50] <johnm> joginder: "ip addr"
[09:50] <schnuffle> Raliegh: monit is simple and easy to use daemontools is a bit more complicated
[09:50] <Raliegh> DarwinSurvivor, the thing is I don't want to have to install a GUI on my server to use them. However if they work without a GUI I will most certainly take a look at them.
[09:50] <schnuffle> joginder: ifconfig <device>
[09:51] <joginder> how we can enter in the vi editor?
[09:51] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: you have asked that question 3 times and appear to be asking *completely* random questions. Is there something *specific* you are trying to do?
[09:51] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: monit uses a web interface (not sure if you consider that a GUI)
[09:51] <joginder> i am sorry but i am new...
[09:51] <Raliegh> Web interfacing is fine. I don't consider that a GUI (even though it really is)
[09:52] <johnm> joginder: you want to change your current IP permanantly? if so "vi /etc/network/interfaces" then "ifdown <interfacename>; ifup <interfacename>" ie: "ifdown eth0"
[09:52] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: would you like a link to a "getting started with ubuntu" tutorial so you can have some fun?
[09:52] <Raliegh> Is this a simple apt-get package in the repositories or do I have to compile source?
[09:52] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: if there's anything in particular you would like to learn (apache, command line, etc), let us know, there are LOTS of tutorials we can point you to
[09:53] <jrib> joginder: what exactly do you want to accomplish?  You keep asking about ip and i'm not sure whether you just want to know what your current ip is or if you want to set a static ip address.
[09:53] <Raliegh> Looks like it is packaged in a repo. Thank goodness, compiling is a pain.
[09:54] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: monit and daemontools are both in the repos
[09:54] <Raliegh> Woah this is odd.
[09:54] <Raliegh> "apt-get install monit" returns:
[09:54] <Raliegh> Segmentation faultsts... 0%
[09:54] <Raliegh> I love faultsts
[09:54] <joginder> how we can give the ip address in single line command?
[09:54] <DarwinSurvivor> never seen a faultsts....
[09:55] <Raliegh> Riiight? What kind of OS has such a bad grammatical error?
[09:55] <Raliegh> It's got me curious.
[09:55] <joginder> how we can give and ip address by single command?
[09:55] <RedBunny> can someone tell me why i keep looking my title bar on my programs like folder and ftp ,... they keep disapearing and i cant move them,....?
[09:55] <RedBunny> loosing,...
[09:55] <Raliegh> Even doing "apt-get install" with no package it tosses a seg fault, but that may be normal.
[09:55] <schnuffle> joginder: I gave you a link
[09:55] <bekks> Raliegh: Works fine here.
[09:56] <joginder> what is the command to see the disk size?
[09:56] <fmauro> RedBunny: what version are you using? what triggers it?
[09:56] <DarwinSurvivor> albertdenou: "sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/*.bin" should fix it
[09:57] <joginder> command to display hard disk size?
[09:57] <schnuffle> joginder: df
[09:57] <Raliegh> A reboot fixed it.
[09:57] <Raliegh> Interestingly enough.
[09:57] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh:  then do an apt-get update
[09:57] <nlici> for rdp connection from which link i can able to get help friends?
[09:57] <joginder> thanks
[09:57] <joginder> how we can create the partitions?
[09:58] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: I would still run the rm command as that error usually points to a corrupted cache file
[09:58] <schnuffle> joginder: fdisk
[09:58] <fmauro> nlici: http://www.rdesktop.org/
[09:58] <joginder> fdisk
[09:58] <Raliegh> I may, but for now it installed properly.
[09:58] <joginder> thanks
[09:58] <Raliegh> But... It doesn't tell you how to configure it.
[09:58] <Raliegh> Nothing on the site either. It just says to configure and THEN edit a file.
[09:59] <l3d> was wondering am i the only one  that can't get to mangler ( a ventrilo client for linux) web site
[09:59] <RedBunny> im using 12.04 ,... and it normally just start after normal use
[09:59] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: http://mmonit.com/monit/documentation/monit.html#the_monit_control_file
[09:59] <bekks> RedBunny: 12.04 is supported in #ubuntu+1 only
[09:59] <RedBunny> i installed beta 1 but updated fully
[09:59] <joginder> how we can install msoffice in ubuntu?
[09:59] <RedBunny> aye
[09:59] <fmauro> l3d: mangler.org, not loading
[09:59] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[10:00] <bekks> joginder: You cant.
[10:00] <RedBunny> what about wine
[10:00] <bekks> joginder: Ubuntu isnt Windows, you have to install it in wine.
[10:00] <DarwinSurvivor> l3d: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://www.mangler.org/
[10:00] <kamilnadeem> A friend is having a prob with his wifi and bluetooth on his Hp 430 laptop on which he installed 11.10 3 days back
[10:00] <mogaj> I haven't installed PPA's ... but how do one know if something added or not?? While installing gimp from software center am getting this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/917161/ My OS ubuntu 11.10
[10:00] <GVolkmann> RedBunny: Exactly...you can't :)
[10:00] <Raliegh> Thanks DarwinSurvivor
[10:00] <RedBunny> lol
[10:00] <joginder> is there any chances of virus in ubuntu?
[10:01] <RedBunny> ive been trying for a week to install adobe web premium uinder wine ,.. n l uck yet
[10:01] <joginder> is virus comes in ubuntu?
[10:01] <bekks> joginder: Yes, there are chances. 100% security is impossible.
[10:01] <kamilnadeem> while listneing to a song when i played next song sound stoped working after a restart sound came back but mouse pointer frooze and started working only after restarting two times and after starting the system third time wifi and bluetooth stopped working. When i disable the wifi from the hardware key it says disabled from hardware but when i enable it from my keyboard it says wifi disabled and in does not enable
[10:01] <kamilnadeem> This what he has given me
[10:01] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: very, very, VERY small chance. I think there's been ONE virus that ever managed to propagate between linux machines in the wild
[10:02] <ricardopinto_> If you want Virus you gotta try windows :P
[10:03] <RedBunny> linux and mac are knownfor being virus free is somehtingis goingon its more likely a mis-configuration ,..............
[10:03] <l3d> well still can get it at pkgs.org but working on depend
[10:03] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: install rfkill , then run "rfkill list" to see what has turned off your wifi (I think it will also report bluetooth as well)
[10:03] <kamilnadeem> Ok I will tell my friend who is on the line
[10:03] <kamilnadeem> No net
[10:03] <kamilnadeem> how will he isntall anything
[10:03] <joginder> how we can create a new group?
[10:04] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: can he plug into a wired lan?
[10:04] <kamilnadeem> no
[10:04] <yeats> joginder: here's a free online book with the basics of Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html
[10:04] <johnm> kamilnadeem: most of the packages are alsol on the installation dvd
[10:04] <yeats> joginder: sounds like you need a bit of background on this
[10:04] <GVolkmann> joginder: groupadd?? read about the theory before you try to do it, it is more complicated than 'execute this command'
[10:04] <kamilnadeem> Yeah so what should I tell him to do
[10:04] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: under the wifi icon, does it list "enable wireless"? and if so, is there a checkmark next to it?
[10:05] <kamilnadeem> It is showing but he is unable to click it
[10:05] <Kartook> My ubuntu 11.10 top menu bar missing
[10:05] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: he can't click on the wifi icon?
[10:05] <joginder> what is the command to switch to different user  without logoff existing?
[10:05] <Kartook> how can i add those
[10:05] <DarwinSurvivor> Kartook: can you get to a terminal window?
[10:06] <Kartook> i will can get it
[10:06] <kamilnadeem> He is able to check the wifi indicator
[10:06] <Kartook> yeap i got the terminal window
[10:06] <kamilnadeem> This is what he is seeing
[10:06] <DarwinSurvivor> "unity --reset; rm -rf ~/.gnome* ~/.config/gnome*" then log out and back in again
[10:06] <kamilnadeem> wireless networks wireless is disabled
[10:07] <kamilnadeem> Vp conncetion configure Vpn
[10:07] <kamilnadeem> enable networking is ticked
[10:07] <joginder> command to switch to different user?
[10:07] <kamilnadeem> enable wireless is highlighted but nothing happens on clicking it
[10:07] <Axenic> Hm
[10:07] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: his laptop should have a physical button/switch/etc to enable/disable the wifi card, does the menu change after hitting that button/switch?
[10:07] <GVolkmann> joginder: su
[10:08] <Kartook> now how to i add the nautilite-connect-server
[10:08] <kamilnadeem> When he tuns off wifi from the keyboard
[10:08] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: your questions appear very random and don't seem to be serving any purpose, please explain what you are trying to DO
[10:08] <Kartook> i need to get a shortcut my cairodock
[10:08] <kamilnadeem> it is saying "wireless is disabled by hardware"
[10:09] <kamilnadeem> when he turns wifi on from keyboard
[10:09] <DarwinSurvivor> Kartook: "unity --reset; rm -rf ~/.gnome* ~/.config/gnome*" then log out and back in again
[10:09] <GVolkmann> kamilnadeem: what is the wireless hardware?
[10:09] <DarwinSurvivor> Kartook: that will reset your interface to defaults and *should* restore any missing icons/applets/bars/etc
[10:09] <kamilnadeem> then it showls "wireless is disabled"
[10:10] <kamilnadeem> Don't know about it
[10:10] <mogaj> please someone guide me ..... While installing gimp from software center am getting this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/917161/ My OS ubuntu 11.10
[10:10] <kamilnadeem> he is at his place
[10:10] <kamilnadeem> I am not near him
[10:10] <joginder> give me a link for installing screensaver
[10:10] <GVolkmann> kamil: can you get a pastebin lspci output?
[10:10] <kamilnadeem> ok trying
[10:10] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: please run a full update on your computer, then try installing gimp again
[10:11] <jrib> mogaj: no clue as to why that might be happening?  What did you modify regarding your package system and repositories/
[10:11] <joginder> give me a link to install screensavers
[10:12] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: is there an entry that says *exactly* "Enable Wireless"?
[10:12] <DarwinSurvivor> if so, is there a checkmark next to it.
[10:13] <joginder> plz tell me the command to go to the root user?
[10:13] <Kartook> i lost my intrest on this GNOME3
[10:13] <Kartook> and ubu 11.10
[10:13] <DarwinSurvivor> if it's not in the list, hit the hardware key and look again. if it is in the list (without a checkmark), click on the list item to re-enable it.
[10:13] <Kartook> i love to stay with ubu 10.10
[10:13] <Kartook> Thanks for your help
[10:13] <kamilnadeem> he is seeing some out put
[10:13] <bekks> Kartook: 10.10 isnt supported soon.
[10:13] <DarwinSurvivor> Kartook: OH, you are using gnome3?
[10:13] <bekks> Kartook: In a few days, it runs out of support.
[10:13] <Kartook> haaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:13] <GVolkmann> joginder: i just did. su
[10:13] <Kartook> ubu 11.10 makes me sick
[10:14] <zatan> Hi how can I uninstall some software together with all config files ?
[10:14] <JadedJacob> good evening ubuntu
[10:14] <bekks> GVolkmann: su works only if having a root password.
[10:14] <Kartook> its not handy or easy to use  ...
[10:14] <bekks> JadedJacob: sudo
[10:14] <bekks> gna.
[10:14] <Axenic> I'm using based on linux distro, gnome shell and unity... they just don't fit with me :P
[10:14] <Axenic> ubuntu distro*
[10:14] <bekks> joginder: sudo will make you root for just one command.
[10:14] <Kartook> like  creating shortcut , apple look , connect to windows servers , RDC . menu bar
[10:14] <Kartook> the list goes a lot
[10:14] <DarwinSurvivor> !notunity
[10:14] <JadedJacob> unity doesn't agree with me.
[10:14] <KarlsruheER> hi
[10:14] <JadedJacob> Mac os x does.
[10:15] <JadedJacob> Love KDE and gnome though
[10:15] <KarlsruheER> who has ever made a squirt ? ????
[10:15] <joginder> command to switch to the super user?
[10:15] <KarlsruheER> who has ever made a squirt ? ????
[10:15] <KarlsruheER> who has ever made a squirt ? ????
[10:15] <Kartook> :P
[10:15] <FloodBot1> KarlsruheER: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:15] <Kartook> i like to use mac themes
[10:15] <DarwinSurvivor> Axenic: give xfce and lmde a try, they are more "traditional" in appearance and design. KDE is a more modern looking alternative
[10:15] <Kartook> and cairo dock or Docky
[10:15] <kamilnadeem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/917239/
[10:15] <CDHAYS> Hello everyone.
[10:15] <Kartook> i am big fan of macubuntu
[10:15] <Axenic> I'm running elementary OS lol
[10:15] <joginder> what is the command to switch to the rootuser?
[10:16] <CDHAYS> Somebody please help me with graphic problem I am facing with ubuntu 11.10
[10:16] <Kartook> <joginder> : su
[10:16] <Kartook> or sudo
[10:16] <GVolkmann> bekks: ah, yeah....i never cared for the ubuntu mandatory sudoer confguration...i always forget.
[10:16] <Myrtti> joginder: use sudo to do tasks as supoer user, su won't work
[10:16] <JadedJacob> what's macubuntu?
[10:16] <Axenic> @CDHAYS What's wrong?
[10:16] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: please do NOT re-ask questions to which you have already been given the answer FIVE TIMES!
[10:16] <tudou> hello
[10:16] <rick__> steve jobs zombie
[10:16] <Axenic> lol
[10:17] <oCean> rick__: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[10:17] <Kartook> <JadedJacob> : tranformation pack for ubuntu looks like mac   macbuntu google it buddy
[10:17] <kamilnadeem> Darwin did you get the paste output
[10:17] <kamilnadeem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/917239/
[10:17] <Kartook> rick  ;; looknig is not bad .. i love to use ubutnu and i am adict
[10:17] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: yes, reading it now
[10:17] <JadedJacob> Kartook: it's so much easier to talk about it in chat ;)
[10:17] <CDHAYS> Axenic: No animations at all, poor graphic, al though I have a dedicated nvidia gforce 1gb graphic, like, when I minimize, a black box moves towards unity launcher.
[10:17] <RedBunny> if i donwgrade to ubuntu 11.10 would it take care of these problems you think ,....?
[10:18] <GVolkmann> Kamil: Say, I am not sure, ive never used that wireless interface, but...maybe you are loading the wrong firmware, see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67437/how-do-i-install-a-driver-for-an-atheros-ar9285
[10:18] <JadedJacob> I don't understand the appeal of skinning something to look like something else, if it doesn't perform as well
[10:18] <Kartook> i learned al lthrough this chat only
[10:18] <Kartook> thanks to all friends
[10:18] <oCean> JadedJacob, Kartook please keep the chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:18] <rick__> oCean, no thans just mocking around and giving xchat a try actually
[10:18] <oCean> rick__: this channel is for support only. /join #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat
[10:18] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: that card appears to be 100% supported by ubuntu
[10:19] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: has he followed the steps I posted?
[10:19] <kamilnadeem> then
[10:19] <kamilnadeem> where have you posted
[10:19] <Kartook> sorry
[10:19] <rick__> oCean, sorry it is just where it defaulted this program
[10:19] <rick__> have a nice day :-)
[10:19] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: if it's not in the list, hit the hardware key and look again. if it is in the list (without a checkmark), click on the list item to re-enable it.
[10:19] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor:  the result after full update of system ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/917244/ ... but still not able to install Gimp ... am getting this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/917161/
[10:20] <mogaj> the result after full update of system ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/917244/ ... but still not able to install Gimp ... am getting this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/917161/
[10:20] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: sorry, just a sec
[10:20] <joginder> when i am trying to add a new user then the message"Only root may add a user or group to the system" is displaying why?
[10:20] <joginder> when i am trying to add a new user then the message"Only root may add a user or group to the system" is displaying? why?
[10:20] <oCean> joginder: stop repeating
[10:20] <kamilnadeem> he is giving the result of rfkill list
[10:21] <mogaj> joginder: try adding user as root  use sudo command
[10:21] <latmen> ciao
[10:21] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: look for an item called "Enable Wireless" in the wifi menu. If it's not in the list, hit the hardware key and check again. if it is in the list (but without a checkmark), click on the list item to re-enable it. if it is in the list (and *is* checked), but you still can't connect, then something else is wrong
[10:21] <latmen> !lista
[10:21] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: because only root can add a new user...
[10:21] <oCean> !sudo | joginder
[10:21] <kamilnadeem> ok telling him on the line
[10:22] <RedBunny> when is the stable version of ubuntu suppost to me out ,... sometime thismonth right ,....
[10:22] <RedBunny> ?
[10:22] <kamilnadeem> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[10:22] <kamilnadeem> 	Soft blocked: no
[10:22] <kamilnadeem> 	Hard blocked: yes
[10:22] <kamilnadeem> 1: hci0: Bluetooth
[10:22] <kamilnadeem> 	Soft blocked: no
[10:22] <kamilnadeem> 	Hard blocked: no
[10:22] <FloodBot1> kamilnadeem: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:22] <kamilnadeem> 2: hp-wifi: Wireless LAN
[10:22] <oCean> RedBunny: planning is april 26th, it will be out when it is ready
[10:22] <bekks> RedBunny: At the end of this month 12.04 will be release - until then, 11.10 is the latest stable.
[10:22] <RedBunny> do i have to do a total re-install oe is it just an upgrade from 12.04
[10:23] <bekks> RedBunny: Please rephrase.
[10:23] <DarwinSurvivor> ok, so the wifi card is hard-blocked, that means he needs to hit the physical wifi button on the laptop. after doing that, please tell me what is listed under "0: phy0: Wireless LAN" (there should only be 2 entries)
[10:23] <RedBunny> ive installed ubuntu 12.04 beta 1  ,... how, whe 12.10 is out do  i install it w/o loosing my settings
[10:23] <oCean> !final | RedBunny
[10:24] <stickyboy> I'm getting hangs after high I/O on an md RAID1.  I don't see anything in /var/log/dmesg*... where else can I look?
[10:24] <RedBunny> ok thanx
[10:25] <bekks> RedBunny: 12.04 is supported in #ubuntu+1 only. As I already said.
[10:25] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: i updates my system but still not able to install gimp
[10:25] <DarwinSurvivor> RedBunny: when 12.04 comes out, just upgrade using the update manager and ubuntu will preserve as many settings as possible (barring a few that may no longer be compatible)
[10:25] <RedBunny> well i was asking about astable ,.. i thought that was in here
[10:25] <kamilnadeem> telling
[10:25] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: did you get any errors when updating?
[10:26] <kamilnadeem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/917257/
[10:26] <taxman01> how many bug you found in 12.04?
[10:26] <kamilnadeem> dawn that is the result
[10:26] <mogaj> DarwinnSurvivor: This is the error output i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/917244/
[10:27] <kamilnadeem> when hardware key is off from the keyboard as you sked
[10:27] <oCean> taxman01: 12.04 discussion in #ubuntu+1, not here
[10:27] <taxman01> lol
[10:27] <oCean> !who | kamilnadeem
[10:27] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: wait a minute, that shows him having 2 wireless cards...
[10:27] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:27] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: have him hit the button again and tell you which line changes in the output
[10:28] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: please open "software sources" (it's in the application lense), the go to the "Other Software" tab and list (using pastebin) all the entries in that list
[10:28] <kamilnadeem> he is telling Darwin
[10:28] <DarwinSurvivor> !pastebin | mogaj
[10:29] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: thank you
[10:29] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: don't forget to specify which ones have checkmarks next to them
[10:29] <kamilnadeem> Darwin http://paste.ubuntu.com/917262/
[10:30] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: ok thanks, tell him to 100% ignore anything that says "phy0", it appears to be a useless dud
[10:31] <kamilnadeem> Ok
[10:31] <kamilnadeem> so what do I tell him Darwin
[10:31] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: according to the last pastebin, his wireless is no longer disabled at the hardware level, now please list what is in his wifi menu (at the top of the screen), don't forget to sepecify which ones have checkmarks
[10:32] <kamilnadeem> ok
[10:32] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: since it is no longer disabled at the hardware level, make sure he does NOT hit the physical wifi button again!
[10:32] <thanhnd> \JOIN #linujx
[10:32] <DarwinSurvivor> thanhnd: try /join with a forward slash :P
[10:32] <taxman01> lol
[10:33] <joginder> is xchat is available for the redhat also?
[10:33] <taxman01> nobody is there
[10:33] <thanhnd> darwinsurvivor, so long since last time i used join command :D
[10:33] <bekks> joginder: Ask the redhat support.
[10:34] <thanhnd> any one here in #php ?
[10:34] <bekks> thanhnd: Join #php and look yourself :)
[10:34] <thanhnd> it said invitation is required
[10:34] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: please go through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal to familiarize yourself with the linux command line. don't forget to visit the links at the bottom for even more fun tutorials!
[10:35] <thanhnd> bekks: invitation is demanded :(
[10:35] <GVolkmann> joginder: i suggest using google to find out if xchat is available for redhat.
[10:35] <DarwinSurvivor> thanhnd: i got in fine, make sure your nickname is registered with freenode, some channels only let registered nick in due to abuse problems
[10:36] <DarwinSurvivor> thanhnd: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
[10:36] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: other software resources ... http://imagebin.org/206920
[10:37] <thanhnd> DarwinSurvivor: thank you :)
[10:37] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: remember when you said you had no PPA's installed, that screenshot shows 6 in current use and 7 old ones that used to be used
[10:38] <kamilnadeem> Darwin here is the screenshot http://imgur.com/IA5MX
[10:38] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: I can almost guarantee you that at least one of those PPA's is causing the problem
[10:38] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: how can rectify that?
[10:38] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: perfect, now click on "Enable Wireless" and everything *should* start working again.
[10:39] <kamilnadeem> Nothinh happens when he clicks on it
[10:39] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: just out of curiosity, how did he post a screenshot without internet...?
[10:39] <kamilnadeem> He is using transferring the file from another windows la[ptop
[10:39] <kamilnadeem> that is why it is taking so time
[10:40] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: ok, lol. thought maybe there was some witchcraft involved or something :P
[10:40] <kamilnadeem> O.o
[10:41] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: Is there no solution?
[10:41] <kamilnadeem> so darwin what should I do
[10:42] <kamilnadeem> I mean what should I tel him
[10:42] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: did he click on "Enable Wireless" yet?
[10:42] <kamilnadeem> Nothing is happening when he clicks it
[10:42] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: once he has, ask him to run "rfkill list" again and post a new screenshot (or just list the changes if any)
[10:43] <kamilnadeem> He is saying "Areoplane mode" is getiing on while he is turning it off
[10:43] <usuario_> hola
[10:43] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: ok, in the terminal have him run "sudo rfkill unblock all", then open the menu again
[10:43] <usuario_> hola
[10:43] <kamilnadeem> Darwin telling him
[10:44] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: airplane mode? didn't know ubuntu even HAD airplane mode. where did he find that?
[10:44] <kamilnadeem> Ok he has made that command in the terminal
[10:44] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: please give me a few minutes, I think kamilnadeem's issue is almost fixed.  I so, there could be a kernel vs. driver conflict (driver expecting a different kernel)
[10:48] <usuario_> ok
[10:48] <usuario_> soi spaning
[10:48] <kasii>  is there any possibility of restore the hidden partition
[10:49] <kamilnadeem> http://i.imgur.com/5Etmw.png
[10:49] <kamilnadeem> Darwin
[10:50] <kamilnadeem> See that Airplane mode
[10:50] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: stupid question, but what happens if he slides the "off" to "on"? or is it un-clickable?
[10:50] <kamilnadeem> It runs off when he clicks it
[10:50] <KarlsruheER> Welche Frau hat schonmal ejakuliert ??
[10:50] <KarlsruheER> Welche Frau hat schonmal ejakuliert ??
[10:50] <kamilnadeem> but then turns on again on its own
[10:51] <DarwinSurvivor> hmm, so airplane mode appears to be "stuck" on then.
[10:51] <kamilnadeem> Then
[10:52] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: do you still have the link to the pastbin of his lspci output?
[10:53] <kamilnadeem> yeah
[10:53] <kamilnadeem> Darrwin check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/76815/how-to-turn-off-airplane-mode
[10:53] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: that's the one I just found
[10:53] <kamilnadeem> I am giving you the lscpi
[10:54] <DarwinSurvivor> I just want to check if his card is the AR9285 which someone else with the same problem also has
[10:54] <kamilnadeem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/917239/
[10:54] <kamilnadeem> here darwin
[10:55] <kasii> hi all
[10:56] <kasii>  is there any possibility of restore the hidden partition
[10:56] <bekks> kasii: Ubuntu does not use a hidden partition at all.
[10:56] <usuario__> hola
[10:56] <usuario__> hi
[10:56] <tonvin>    /away
[10:56] <usuario__> hii
[10:56] <usuario__> the fucking mather
[10:57] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: yep, that is the exact same wireless card as the other guy having the same issue. I recommend opening a bug report and linking it to that discussion. also add the screenshots and pastebins and point out that 2 people with the same card have this problem. it very well could be a driver bug
[10:57] <kasii> bekks, i have hidden partition when i boot with live cd i saw it with my data
[10:57] <usuario__> no
[10:57] <kasii> bekks, how can i restore it
[10:58] <usuario__> hi
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> usuario__  please stop
[10:58] <DarwinSurvivor> usuario__: please watch your language and keep non-support stuff in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[10:58] <usuario__> hi
[10:58] <usuario__> please
[10:58] <bekks> kasii: First, please provide the output of "sudo fdisk -l" in a pastebin
[10:59] <DarwinSurvivor> !pastebinit
[10:59] <kamilnadeem> gksudo gedit /etc/modules
[10:59] <kamilnadeem> darwin
[10:59] <kamilnadeem> does this has to do anything
[11:00] <kamilnadeem> it only has LP on it
[11:00] <kasii> bekks,  ok let me do it
[11:00] <sab0> i am using ubutu 10.04, want to upgrade to 11
[11:01] <sab0> i am using ubutu 10.04, want to upgrade to 11....can anyone please tell me how can i do that ?
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> sab0  12.04 LTS will soon come out, my advice is to wait a few more weeks
[11:01] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67437/how-do-i-install-a-driver-for-an-atheros-ar9285 appears to be very relevant
[11:01] <kamilnadeem> Checking it Darwin
[11:02] <DarwinSurvivor> !upgrade | sab0
[11:02] <kamilnadeem> Poniter has freezed on his laptop when he restarted
[11:02] <kamilnadeem> just now
[11:02] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: as in the mouse cursor?
[11:02] <sab0> MonkeyDust, but does 12.04 will be stable version?
[11:02] <kamilnadeem> Yeah
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> sab0  when it comes out, yes
[11:03] <DarwinSurvivor> sab0: nobody knows if a release will be stable until it's release and people try it for a month or so
[11:03] <kasii> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/917301/
[11:03] <DarwinSurvivor> sab0: for 12.04 questions, please visit #ubuntu+1 where all the people that use it are hanging out
[11:03] <kamilnadeem> Ok I made him logout through dash and then it is working
[11:04] <sab0> MonkeyDust, DarwinSurvivor  thank you, i am novice linux user...dont know manythings
[11:04] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: follow the instructions for blacklisting acer_wmi at the link I provided and see if that fixes it (he will need to reboot afterwards)
[11:04] <kamilnadeem> Ok
[11:04] <DarwinSurvivor> sab0: novices are welcome, we will do our best to steer you in the right direction
[11:04] <kasii> bekks are u there
[11:05] <kamilnadeem> Tellling him what to do
[11:05] <bekks> kasii: yes.
[11:05] <bekks> kasii: There is no hidden partition.
[11:05] <kasii> have see the  pastebin link
[11:05] <kasii> okay
[11:06] <Kabiigon> hi
[11:06] <kasii> bekks, but i dont see it computer icon when i open it
[11:06] <bekks> kasii: Which computer icon?
[11:06] <kamilnadeem> The file has opened darwin what should he do
[11:07] <kamilnadeem> He has HP 430
[11:07] <kamilnadeem> om26er how are you?
[11:07] <kasii> see these /dev/sda3
[11:07] <bekks> kasii: Thats a Windows partition.
[11:07] <uminvincible> Iti s quite weird but I have been trying to join #fedora and the I am not getting connected, Instead, once and only once I got redirected to #fedora-unregistered . Then I tried /join #fedora and nothing pops up in Empathy. I am trying to get some help. I know I am in the wrong channel. But I do not have an idea of what else to do. Can somebody point a finger please....
[11:07] <kasii> bekks, see these /dev/sda3
[11:07] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor : About gimp
[11:07] <jrib> !register | uminvincible
[11:08] <bekks> kasii: Thats still a Windows partition, like seconds ago.
[11:08] <kasii> yaahh with ntfs filesystem
[11:08] <uminvincible> ubottu: Thank you very much. But I have registered uminvincible as my nick and the nickserv identifies me positively...
[11:08] <kasii> bekks, so how can i view it
[11:08] <bekks> kasii: You have to mount it.
[11:09] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: just have him add "acer_wmi" without quotes as its own line in the file (there is probably a commented header of some kind with some instructions)
[11:09] <Kabiigon> i want to install ubuntu along side my windows 7 but ubuntu is not seeing the windows 7 partition just a blank drie e
[11:09] <kasii> how can i mount it
[11:09] <oCean> uminvincible: please ask in #freenode channel
[11:09] <uminvincible> oCean: Thank you.. I will try that. Thank you.
[11:09] <kasii> bekks, how can i mount i
[11:10] <kamilnadeem> So I am saying to blacklist acer_wmi
[11:10] <bekks> kasii: You dont have to repeat everything you say.
[11:10] <angs> I want my ubuntu to wake up and sleep some certain times such as. it should start at 10:00 pm and sleep at 7:00 am. what is the command to schedule wakeup and sleep time of the pc?
[11:10] <kamilnadeem> He is getting an error
[11:10] <kamilnadeem> darwin wait he is telling.
[11:11] <kasii> bekks, tell me what to do in order to mount it
[11:11] <bekks> angs: Unless you have a bios to power it on at a give point in time, you cannot do so with ubuntu. Just put your finger on the power button to power it on.
[11:11] <bekks> kasii: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[11:12] <kamilnadeem> Darwin attempting to set the permission of' /root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel' , but failed: No such file or directory
[11:12] <kamilnadeem> This is the error that he is getting
[11:12] <kamilnadeem> on the terminal
[11:12] <angs> bekks: is it possible if ubuntu sleeps rather than shutdown? In this case, is it possible to schedule wake up and sleep times?
[11:12] <Gethro> Goodmornig everyone: I have a question: Which torrent client do you think is better - uTorrent or Transmission or another client not mentioned? And why?
[11:12] <bekks> angs: No.
[11:12] <kasii> bekks, let me try
[11:13] <bekks> angs: You can schedule the shutdown, but why dont you just shut it down when finished? Instead of loosing work, when trying to write the last sentence of a letter?
[11:13] <kamilnadeem> Darwin http://cyberponcho.blogspot.in/2011/11/how-to-re-enable-wireless-in-ubuntu.html
[11:13] <DarwinSurvivor> maknz: what command did he run when he got that error?
[11:14] <ElliotGao> hello,everyone
[11:14] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: that page basically says to run "sudo rfkill unblock wifi", the "sudo rfkill unblock all" which he ran earlier does the same thing, but to ALL the cards.
[11:15] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: are you still using the software from all of those PPA's?
[11:15] <angs> bekks: I would like to implement wakeup and sleep schedule for an embedded board, and it will work remotely. I just wondered if there is any command to schedule a linux's working hours
[11:15] <bekks> angs: The answer still is "No".
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> angs  remotely... i guess you want WakeOnLan
[11:16] <angs> ok thanks
[11:16] <kamilnadeem> Man he is going to grab a windows 7 disk
[11:16] <kamilnadeem> he is loosing patience
[11:16] <kamilnadeem> Sad
[11:16] <kamilnadeem> I don't why he is getting this prob
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> angs  is this what you want https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WakeOnLan
[11:17] <blez> what's the most 'native' way for linux to show popups? (tray popups)
[11:17] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: please start reading http://askubuntu.com/questions/89408/how-do-i-fix-a-bad-ppa-installed-in-ubuntu (specifically --configure part of solution 2)
[11:17] <blez> I see that ubuntu uses growl-like notifications
[11:18] <DarwinSurvivor> !notify-send | blez
[11:18] <DarwinSurvivor> hmm, worth a shot
[11:18] <blez> what's that?
[11:19] <DarwinSurvivor> blez: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/12/ubuntu-notify-send/
[11:19] <blez> that's nice, but I'm talking about other distros, what do they use?
[11:20] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: sorry, my bad. he needs to add "blacklist acer_wmi" as a line (without the quotes). forgot the word blacklist
[11:20] <bekks> blez: Ask "the others" :)
[11:20] <sab0> i am using ubuntu 10.04 along with win7;but during boot i can see a lot of ubuntu version there,i want the one i need,can anyone please tell me how can i don that?i want to do it from terminal...
[11:20] <blez> bekks don't be like that
[11:20] <derpladee> hey i have some video card driver issues, i have a radeon mobility 2600 video card, if i use the proprietary drivers that the hardware driver utility in system->administration proposes then i have huge problems with making a resizing windows, if i install the drivers from the amd website then i don't have those problems but either way i have problems with openGL applications. they flicker all the time. if i just uninstall all drivers and use the generic ve
[11:20] <kamilnadeem> I told him to do that only. He added "blacklist acer_wmi"
[11:20] <bekks> blez: We dont know how other distros implement things, seriously.
[11:20] <oCean> blez: this channel is for ubuntu support, use ##linux for general linux questions
[11:20] <kamilnadeem> In terminal this appeared attempting to set the permission of' /root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel' , but failed: No such file or directory
[11:21] <DarwinSurvivor> blez: almost every GUI-enabled distro i've ever seen fully supports notify-send. if there's a distro in particular you want to verify, please ask in their channel as they will have more accurate answers
[11:21] <blez> DarwinSurvivor it is included in most of the distros?
[11:21] <blez> so I can use it freely?
[11:23] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: ok, looks like that error is more of a warning (unrelated to the blacklist itself, it's a GTK error). if he's successfully saved the blacklist file, have him reboot and test his wireless
[11:23] <kamilnadeem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/917321/
[11:23] <kamilnadeem> darwin
[11:23] <kamilnadeem> This what he had
[11:23] <kamilnadeem> done
[11:24] <kamilnadeem> had he done it correctly
[11:24] <oCean> kamilnadeem: you can use <tab> to autocomplete nicknames. Example: type  oc<tab>
[11:24] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: perfect, now have him save the file (if he hasn't already) and reboot
[11:24] <oCean> kamilnadeem: please start your lines with the nickname of the person you are talking to
[11:24] <kamilnadeem> tab is not working on xchat
[11:24] <oCean> kamilnadeem: sure it is
[11:24] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. tab works for me in xchat.
[11:25] <meco> What's a simple video editing tool I can use to rotate the video 90? and save it? I can rotate it while viewing with VLC but not save.
[11:25] <DarwinSurvivor> oCean: I have actually come across x-chat have bad default settings and having that feature disabled.
[11:25] <kamilnadeem> Not working for me
[11:25] <kamilnadeem> Tab should work but is not
[11:25] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: the tab completion setting should be in x-chat's preferences
[11:26] <oCean> kamilnadeem: it is very confusing when you are not using nicknames to address others
[11:26] <kamilnadeem> Ok
[11:26] <kamilnadeem> Sorry for my mistake
[11:26] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: you can look for that in preference while your friend reboots :D
[11:26] <Kabiigon> i want to install ubuntu along side my windows 7 but ubuntu is not seeing the windows 7 partition just a blank drie e
[11:26] <DarwinSurvivor> *preferences
[11:27] <DarwinSurvivor> Kabiigon: please post the output of "fdisk -l" to pastebin
[11:27] <Kabiigon> its on another computer
[11:27] <Kabiigon> let me get to it
 Nothing happend
[11:27] <pshah1_> #ruby
[11:28] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: what does "lsmod | grep acer_wmi" show?
[11:29] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: if your friend has a second computer with internet (that he's posting screenshots to), could he join us in the irc room? that would probably make things go quicker
[11:29] <kamilnadeem> okay asking him to do so
 okay telling
[11:30] <anderssen> Hello everyone! I'm a new ubuntu user
[11:31] <OerHeks> Congrats anderssen
[11:31] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: he can use http://webchat.freenode.net/ to connect from windows without installing any software
[11:31] <anderssen> when will new release of ubuntu 12.04
[11:31] <kamilnadeem> Yeah doing just that
[11:31] <kamilnadeem> :-)
[11:32] <oCean> anderssen: when it's ready. Plans are april 26th
[11:32] <anderssen> ok
 karan4 is our man
[11:32] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: welcome
[11:32] <karan4> hi everybody
[11:33] <karan4> hello DarwinSurvivor
[11:33] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: hello. could you please tell me if anything shows up when running "lsmod | grep acer_wmi" on your ubuntu machine?
[11:34] <karan4> ok telling
[11:34] <karan4> no man nothing showing
[11:34] <_raven> 11.10 + unetbootin - not able to create bootable usb drives any more - what's happening there
[11:34] <DarwinSurvivor> ok, that's good. it means the blacklist worked
[11:34] <DarwinSurvivor> ok, now run "rfkill list" and post a screenshot or a pastebin dump of what it prints
[11:36] <karan4> ok giving u a screen shot
[11:37] <Dr_willis> _raven,  you useing the latest version of unetbootin? theres alternatives tools at the pendrivelinux web site.
[11:37] <MarKsaitis> ubuntu package search?
[11:37] <kamilnadeem> brb DarwinSurvivor
[11:38] <karan4> http://imgur.com/PP5Uc please take a look
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> _raven  there's also MultiSystem
[11:38] <bekks> MarKsaitis: packages.ubuntu.com :)
[11:38] <Dr_willis> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[11:38] <MarKsaitis> bekks, does it have search option
[11:38] <MarKsaitis> woops, it does thanx
[11:39] <bekks> MarKsaitis: Visit the site and look yourself :)
[11:39] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: ok, now try running "sudo rfkill unblock all" it should work now that acer_wmi is blacklisted
[11:39] <DarwinSurvivor> MarKsaitis: "apt-cache search"
[11:39] <MarKsaitis> thanx
[11:39] <DarwinSurvivor> MarKsaitis: you can also search in the software center (top-right corner)
[11:39] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu Packages Search
[11:39] <Dr_willis> This site provides you with information about all the packages available in the Ubuntu Package archive.
[11:39] <karan4> ok checking
[11:40] <joginder> what is the command to create a directory?
[11:40] <karan4> darwin nothing happened
[11:40] <Dr_willis> joginder,  mkdir
[11:40] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: did the output of "rfkill list" change?
[11:40] <Dr_willis> !bash | joginder
[11:40] <ent_> hey hey
[11:40] <karan4> no
[11:41] <rk0r> lots of users in here
[11:41] <joginder> is xchat works for red hat linux6 also?
[11:41] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: did you get any errors when running unblock?
[11:41] <karan4> no man
[11:42] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: can you check if you are still getting that weird airplane mode behaviour?
[11:42] <rk0r> in ubuntu ?
[11:42] <joginder> is xchat works for redhat6 also?
[11:42] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: are you still there?
[11:42] <DarwinSurvivor> !google | jobinder
[11:42] <karan4> yes it is still there
[11:42] <DarwinSurvivor> well, that's the opposite of what I was looking for :P
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> joginder  better as that in a redhat channel
[11:43] <joginder> plz tell me that redhat6 support the xchat?
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> ask*
[11:43] <entombed> anyone here getting an ivy bridge
[11:43] <karan4> haha
[11:43] <rk0r> ivy can be destructive on houses
[11:43] <joginder> is there any international certification for ubuntu?
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> !ot| joginder
[11:44] <karan4> what should i do darwin??
[11:46] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: can you post the output of "ifconfig"?
[11:46] <caylo> hii, how should i set up partitions? i cant let it do auto because i need to keep a windows partition of music for now
[11:46] <thunder1212> i need some help
[11:46] <karan4> ya
[11:46] <DarwinSurvivor> caylo: have you resized your windows partition to make room for ubuntu yet?
[11:46] <caylo> yes Darwin
[11:47] <DarwinSurvivor> caylo: I *highly* recommend resizing windows partitions by using windows tools, especially on ntfs partitions
[11:47] <thunder1212> karan4: my laptop doesn't shutdown
[11:47] <DarwinSurvivor> caylo: do you need help with how to do the partitoning, or recommendations on sizes/etc?
[11:47] <Dr_willis> joginder,  i got xchat on my windows os. :)
[11:47] <Froodle> I'm trying to triple boot.  I've had Ubuntu and Win7 for a year, and I just installed RHEL6, but it won't show in Grub.  Disk Utility says it's "LVM2 Physical Volume" on /dev/sda8.  Help?
[11:47] <caylo> i know i need 3, i have added an ext4 mounted at /, and a swap
[11:47] <thunder1212> Dr_willis: it onlt trial ver
[11:48] <Dr_willis> thunder1212,  nope.. its a totally free version.
[11:48] <Dr_willis> thunder1212,  theres several differnt builds of xchat for windows.
[11:48] <Etronik> Hi guys, how to update gwibber on ubuntu to the latest version?
[11:48] <Dr_willis> thunder1212,   XChat-WDK 1500
[11:48] <thunder1212> i need help
[11:48] <DarwinSurvivor> caylo: ok, so what else do you need? sounds like your partitioning is all done already!
[11:48] <thunder1212> Dr_willis: can u send the download link
[11:49] <compdoc> Froodle, yeah, redhat and centos want to install everything on LVM. Thats one reason I moved to ubuntu - clonezilla doesnt work with LVM
[11:49] <caylo> is there any mount point for the third? and its ext4 okay for both? :)
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> caylo  the ubuntu installer lets you choose a free partition
[11:49] <thunder1212> Dr_willis: ok  got it..
[11:49] <caylo> and is 30 okay for /
[11:49] <bekks> compdoc: RHEL and CentOS bother offer the possibility to partition manually.
[11:49] <Froodle> compdoc, how can I get it to show in Grub?  I can't boot to it!  lol
[11:50] <compdoc> bekks, sure
[11:50] <thunder1212> my laptop doesn;t shutdown
[11:50] <karan4> http://i.imgur.com/vMoWD.png
[11:50] <caylo> MonkeyDust, it wanted to take the whole thing or go advanced
[11:50] <thunder1212> karan4: can u help??
[11:51] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: please be more specific with your question. is there no shutdown button, does it lock up, does the fan keep spinning, etc?
[11:51] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: thanks
[11:52] <oduku> there's one file located in ubuntu server at /var/log,  i want to specify a link to that file in my project in windows how wud i do that
[11:52] <Inner> Hi all I was wondering if someone could help me out with Ubuntu Server 11.04 .. it keeps letting one my hard drives spin down over time, is there a way to disable acpi or what ever is making it do this pleace?
[11:53] <thunder1212> DarwinSurvivor: hi, actually, when i send the shutdown signal the system accepts it but gets stuck somewhere in between.. and i have to turn it off by pressing and holding the shutdon button
[11:53] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: try "sudo ifup wlan0"
[11:53] <LeXuS> > DarwinSurvivor > hello, you sit in ICQ
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  try sudo init 0, it's rather drastic, but should work
[11:54] <DarwinSurvivor> LeXuS: i do have icq, why do you ask?
[11:54] <thunder1212> DarwinSurvivor: am using a dell vostro laptop , 4mnths old came preinstalled with ubuntu 10.10 then i upgraded to 11.04,  worked fine for some time but for the last week or so it gets stuck
[11:54] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: tried that doesn;t work..
[11:54] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: i've seen laptop mode tools cause issues like that, are you using it?
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  or sudo shutdown -h now
[11:55] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: did that as well same toruble
[11:55] <compdoc> Inner, is it a green drive?
[11:55] <karan4> it says ignoring unkown interface wlan0=wlan0
[11:55] <oduku> there's one file located in ubuntu server at /var/log,  i want to specify a link to that file in my project in windows how wud i do that
[11:55] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: i mean same trouble is there, the machine doesnt shutdown
[11:55] <ShapeShifter499> Hi, I think I was banned due to a joining issue on #debian (to many joins and disconnects at once). It was really caused by a bad znc configuration, can someone message them and let someone there know?
[11:56] <Inner> compdoc: green drive? lol , hmm no just a sata drive, it sits doing nothing mostly but at midnight it has work to do by that time of course its sleeping so it isn't accessible by the backup scripts.
[11:56] <bazhang> ShapeShifter499, message their ops.
[11:56] <ShapeShifter499> I have fixed my znc btw
[11:56] <oduku> please any1 can ans me will be aprreciable
[11:57] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: just a sec, looking up a command
[11:57] <karan4> k
[11:57] <ShapeShifter499> bazhang: I have no idea who is a op there
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> !patience| oduku
[11:57] <thunder1212> DarwinSurvivor: let me check, but if thats the case why won't it shutdown on windows
[11:58] <rk0r> does anyone user " brainstorm" on the ubuntu projects
[11:58] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: ok, try "sudo ifup -a"
[11:59] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: then run "ifconfig" again and see if any new entries (other than lo and eth0) appear
[11:59] <oduku> ne1 here knows the ans of my que
[11:59] <oduku> plzz
[11:59] <compdoc> Inner, WD and I guess others, make green drives that spin down after a fairly short time, and Im not sure that can be changed except by installing new firmware to the drive. There used to be bios settings for spinning down drives on the older systems. Anyway, it should wake up automatically when something has to be written - maybe you can copy a file to it before the backup
[11:59] <karan4> no no other entries
[11:59] <rk0r> karan4 what are you tring to do with your ethernet ?
[12:00] <linocisco> hi where to ask about eletrical wiring problems?
[12:00] <linocisco> hi where to ask about eletrical wiring problems?
[12:00] <bastidrazor> linocisco: Lowes
[12:00] <karan4> rk0r im not able to enable wifi on my laptop
[12:00] <compdoc> linocisco, inside the computer, or the house wiring?
[12:00] <thunder1212> DarwinSurvivor: no laptop-mode-tools
[12:00] <linocisco> #lowes ?
[12:00] <kasii> bekks, are uthere
[12:01] <kasii> bekks, come on
[12:01] <DarwinSurvivor> rk0r: karan4 has a
[12:01] <bekks> kasii: Take a look at the user list in the channel to see wether a user is there or not.
[12:01] <DarwinSurvivor> rk0r: karan4 has an atheros card that won't come out of airplane mode
[12:01] <linocisco> which channel should I join to ask about electrical wiring?
[12:01] <kasii> how
[12:01] <bekks> kasii: By typing "/names" e.g.
[12:02] <thunder1212> any suggestiona
[12:02] <karan4> darwin the command did not change ifconfig value
[12:02] <linocisco> which channel should I join to ask about electrical wiring?
[12:02] <linocisco> compdoc: home wiring
[12:03] <oduku> actually i want to provide link which refers to the file placed in ubuntu server..the link i want to give is in my java code
[12:03] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: oh, windows on a different computer?
[12:03] <Boreeas> A dist-upgade does not remove personal files, righT?
[12:04] <kasii> bekks, i didn't  successfully with the MOUNTING
[12:04] <bekks> kasii: Why not?
[12:04] <linocisco> which channel should I join to ask about electrical wiring?
[12:04] <DarwinSurvivor> Boreeas: correct, thought it may change some now-incompatible settings (toolbar applets, etc)
[12:04] <bekks> !patientce linocisco
[12:04] <ircnick> hi i have a problem ubuntu 11.10? when i use liveusb on the dell inspiron 1110 netbook it was able to "activate" wireless card but after using wubi to install ubuntu, booting into ubuntu from OS choice menu and trying to activate the wireless driver i get this: installation failed, look at log file /var/log/jockey.log
[12:04] <kasii> too many of them bekks
[12:04] <bekks> gna.
[12:04] <bekks> kasii: Too many of what?
[12:04] <Boreeas> DarwinSurvivor: Ah, it's just for a remote server which is still running 10.04
[12:04] <bekks> !patience linocisco
[12:04] <caylo> okayyy, this is so far, 30GB /, 800 /home, 90win, 30swap :)
[12:04] <bekks> !patience
[12:05] <linocisco> bekks:  ok bro
[12:05] <kasii> too many word i didnt see the correct way to solve the problem
[12:05] <DarwinSurvivor> caylo: sounds appropriate to me, I say go with it
[12:05] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor:- yes ...i coding in java in windows ..in some places in my code i need to give proper link which points to file located in ubuntu server.
[12:05] <caylo> cool thank you :)
[12:05] <griselda> pex971
[12:06] <kasii> bekks,  too many word i didnt see the correct way to solve the problem
[12:06] <caylo> tbh if it was wrong i could start again and try it different
[12:06] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: I cannot think of any other troubleshooting ideas for your problem. I recommend opening a bug report (as it appears to be a bug) and linking it to https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/175340 and mention that you are the second person with the same wireless card to have this problem
[12:06] <thunder1212> DarwinSurvivor: r u there>>
[12:06] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: yes
[12:07] <bekks> kasii: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:07] <thunder1212> what next??
[12:07] <karan4> ok
[12:07] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: add as much detail as possible, and make sure to mention the airplane mode issue
[12:07] <thunder1212> DarwinSurvivor: what to do now?? it doesn't shutdown..
[12:07] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: sorry, I have very little experience with shutdown issues, other than looking in /var/log (specifically the dmesg log), I don't have any suggestions for you
[12:08] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: are you still there?
[12:08] <rzehan> leave
[12:08] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor: do u know ans 4 my query..plz help me
[12:08] <sacarlson> thunder1212: have you tried sudo halt ; ?
[12:09] <thunder1212> sacarlson: no will try just wait till i get back..
[12:09] <rzehan> LEAVE
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> rzehan  try /part
[12:10] <rzehan> thanx MonkeyDust
[12:11] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: how is the file being server? (nfs, apache http, etc)?
[12:12] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor:- not getting u ..how to knw that
[12:13] <compdoc> linocisco, not sure there is an electrical wiring channel, but there is ##hardware, and I know a little about it
[12:13] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: you are tring to use java on one machine to access a file in ubuntu on another machine over a network, correct?
[12:13] <linocisco> compdoc: thanks anyway
[12:14] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor:-yes
[12:14] <DarwinSurvivor> linocisco: if you are using x-chat, there is a search feature that lets you search for channels by keyword.
[12:15] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: ok, so where is the file in ubuntu, and have you configured ubuntu to make that file available over the network yet?
[12:15] <linocisco> DarwinSurvivor: I m using webchat. so less feature
[12:17] <Boreeas> So, when doing a dist-upgrade of a server over rsh, I get a warning that it is not recommended to do it over ssh. How would I do it instead?
[12:17] <DarwinSurvivor> linocisco: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist
[12:17] <thunder1212> sacarlson: did not work..
[12:18] <thunder1212> sacarlson: the halt command.. doesnt work
[12:18] <sacarlson> thunder1212: bummer that happens,  I assume it's not that your not a sudoer?
[12:18] <DarwinSurvivor> Boreeas: it is recommended to do it using physical keyboard/monitor connected to the server. remember, if ssh dies during the install, you could completely mess up the system (and not be able to log back in)
[12:18] <oduku> that file is in location /openils/conf/fm_IDL.xml and no i dont know how to configure ubuntu to access that file
[12:18] <bekks> Boreeas: From the console of the server.
-  that file is in location /openils/conf/fm_IDL.xml and no i dont know how to configure ubuntu to access that file
[12:18] <arara> #zevenos
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  shutdown -h now ; init 0 ; halt .... none of these work?
[12:19] <Boreeas> Well, it's a remote server. I don't really have physical access to it. Damn.
[12:19] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: do you only need to access this file a couple times, or does it need to be read on a regular basis?
[12:19] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: yes all those does not work..
[12:20] <DarwinSurvivor> Boreeas: what kind of remote server (private, virtual private, shared, amazon, etc)?
[12:20] <arara> Hello
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  what's the outcome of lsb_release -sd ?
[12:20] <arara> Anyone here could help me?
[12:20] <bekks> arara: We dont know.
[12:20] <oduku> second option:- i will need to read that file anytime
[12:20] <DarwinSurvivor> arara don't ask to ask, just ask
[12:21] <arara> I've installed a distro from germany
[12:21] <arara> i'm brazilian
[12:21] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: do the remote machines need to be able to *edit* the file as well, or only read it?
[12:21] <arara> called Zevenos and it's based on ubunut
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> arara  unfortunaltely, not supported here
[12:21] <ircnick> hi i have a problem ubuntu 11.10? when i use liveusb on the dell inspiron 1110 netbook it was able to "activate" wireless card but after using wubi to install ubuntu, booting into ubuntu from OS choice menu and trying to activate the wireless driver i get this: installation failed, look at log file /var/log/jockey.log
[12:21] <arara> ok
_only read
[12:22] <Boreeas> DarwinSurvivor: Virtual server hosted with a company. I guess I could see if anyone is there, but I doubt it, it being holidays and such.
[12:22] <arara> but all the commands are pretty much the same as ubuntu
[12:22] <bekks> arara: Still, thats not Ubuntu, and thus not supported in here.
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> arara  type /join #zevenos
[12:22] <DarwinSurvivor> arara: zevenos has their own channel at #zevenos due to changes that all "derivative" distros make, #ubuntu cannot support them since we have no idea what changes they have made
[12:23] <thunder1212> ubuntu 11.04
[12:23] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 11.04
[12:23] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: does the file get updated regularly, or does it always stay the same?
[12:23] <sacarlson> thunder1212: not to worry in worst case just hold the power botton 6 secounds I've had to do that 3 times this week with no damages yet
- yes
[12:25] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: is the java software something you wrote, or are you using a pre-made java application?
[12:25] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: basically, is code modification of the java application acceptable/possible?
[12:26] <L3mce> !pm info libva-driver-i965
[12:26] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor:_ no...i m just going to pass a link to the file located on ubuntu directory..n my java code will only read that file dats it
[12:26] <L3mce> !info libva-driver-i965
[12:27] <thunder1212> sacarlson: well that's what i have been doing for quiet some time now.. but the problem is.. i feel that there's some hardware issue with my laptop and its still under warranty dell complete cover and have 90 days left.. and i called up the dell guys they said we don't provide any support for linux.. and the dell diagnostic doesn;t give any error so.. you install windows then only we might be able to help.. so i am stuck now
[12:27] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: is the java code expecting an http:// url, or something more complicated?
[12:28] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: the out come of the command is UBuntu 11.04 now what>>
[12:28] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor:- http/https  wud be better...passing one link and file is readable is my final concern
[12:28] <sacarlson> thunder1212: when you say it doesn't shutdown, do you mean it won't shut off,  maybe just an acpi thing
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  what sacarlson says, a reset, by holding the button 5-6 seconds
[12:29] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: ok, the you need to set up an http/https server like apache or lighttpd, do you have any experience with any of those?
[12:29] <thunder1212> sacarlson: i did not get what u mean by shut off and when i hold the power button on my laptop for 5-6 sec the system shuts down right??
[12:30] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust:
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  also take out the battery
[12:30] <pikaciu> no
[12:30] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: then what??
[12:30] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor :- plz guide me to set that via apache
[12:30] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: I think they are trying to determine how far you computer DOES shut down. what is the *last* thing you see on your screen when attempting to shut down
[12:30] <sacarlson> thunder1212: yes sure, but when you do a sudo halt, as in some of my systems it will shut down all running apps but fails to power down the system, that would be acpi thing
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  the idea is to hold the button 5-6 seconds *after* you completely shut down
[12:31] <ServerCrash> i need few extra packages to be installed by default when we do ubuntu server installation, dont want to go apt-get install way
[12:31] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: for something as simple as serving a single file, i'd use something simple like lighttpd, apache is pretty heavy for something like that
[12:32] <pikaciu> thunder1212: try ps -A to look at the processes
[12:32] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: ok so you mean i take out the batetries and then put them back and hold the power button they system will get reset riht
[12:32] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: for lighttpd setup help, I recommend asking in #lighttpd, they may also know of even lighter servers that can serve a single file.
[12:33] <sacarlson> thunder1212: you might get a better view of shutdown when you do a <ctl><alt>f2 to take it out of graphic mode when you do the halt to see at what point it gets stuck
[12:33] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: if you disconnect power and pull the battery, there is no need to hold the power button
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  disconnect from the electricity net, take out the battery, hold the button and then restart
[12:33] <sacarlson> MonkeyDust: DarwinSurvivor: he has been doing that for some time,  you must of missed that part
[12:33] <DarwinSurvivor> ServerCrash: how many installations are you doing?
[12:34] <DarwinSurvivor> sacarlson: sorry
[12:34] <sacarlson> DarwinSurvivor: don't sorry me sorry thunder1212: it's his case not mine
[12:35] <thunder1212> pikaciu: do u wnat the out put of the command
[12:35] <pikaciu> thunder1212: yep
[12:35] <DarwinSurvivor> if anyone has asked a question and not gotten a response, please re-ask the question now
[12:35] <L3mce> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel precise | L3mce
[12:36] <phschwartz> Is there a way to create a package that is noarch? Using dpkg-deb I can only seem to make packages that are arch specific.
[12:36] <kasii> DarwinSurvivor, help me please
[12:36] <DarwinSurvivor> kasii: please post your question
[12:36] <DarwinSurvivor> kasii: which-ever person feels they have a good answer will start helping you
[12:36] <thunder1212> DarwinSurvivor: what do u meant if i take out the battery then of course i dont need to press and hold the power button of laptop..
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  you do
[12:37] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: holding the power button should do the same thing as disconnecting the power+batteries, no need to do both
[12:37] <ServerCrash> DarwinSurvivor, probably few 100s, but need a custom packaged light weight ubuntu, just bare bone with simple X and few package that my app needs
[12:37] <L3mce> !info i965-va-driver precise > L3mce
[12:37] <pikaciu> thunder1212: it's very risky to pull out the battery
[12:38] <DarwinSurvivor> ServerCrash: you are installing 100+ servers with X per-installed??
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> pikaciu  why? mine is next to my pc
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> is lying*
[12:39] <kasii> DarwinSurvivor,  my ubuntu hide partiton
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> kasii  there's no such thing as a hidden partition
[12:39] <DarwinSurvivor> kasii: it's been a while since I saw your original full question, please post the entire question again
[12:39] <ServerCrash> DarwinSurvivor, well not a server as such but a system which runs a specific program only
[12:39] <bekks> DarwinSurvivor: kasii has a NTFS partition and cant mount it.
[12:40] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: when i run this sudo dpkg --configure -a i got no output? what does it mean?
[12:40] <kasii> fails to mount bekks
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> !ntfs-3g
[12:40] <kasii> i have install  ntfs config
[12:40] <mrp> how do i remove and package and all the other packesg it installed.
[12:40] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: ah you are back
[12:40] <mrp> ?
[12:40] <sgs1990> hellow?
[12:40] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: what do u mean if there is no power supply then nothing will work
[12:40] <sacarlson> ServerCrash: there is a bare minimal ubuntu that is like only 60 meg
[12:41] <DarwinSurvivor> bekks: thanks
[12:41] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: sorry for not holding on
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  it's a hardware reset
[12:41] <DarwinSurvivor> kasii: what have you tried so far?
[12:41] <ServerCrash> sacarlson, any links plz
[12:41] <sacarlson> ServerCrash: but what libs does your app need to run?
[12:41] <kasii> darwin thats  all
[12:41] <sgs1990> can annyone tell me again how i can log in the dutch ubuntu chat ??? i thought it was somthing like /join #ubuntu-nl
[12:41] <sgs1990> but that doesn't work
[12:41] <kasii> DarwinSurvivor,  thats  all
[12:41] <pangolin> sgs1990, it is
[12:41] <oCean> mrp: sudo apt-get purge packagename will remove the package and configs etc. sudo apt-get autoremove will remove automatically installed dependencies
[12:42] <pikaciu> thunder1212: i'm still waiting the output
[12:42] <kasii> DarwinSurvivor, thats all i have tried
[12:42] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: DarwinSurvivor: what next after i power off the machine..
[12:42] <sacarlson> ServerCrash: oh stand corrected it's only 23 meg https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:42] <ServerCrash> sacarlson, basically java, its simple application
[12:42] <pangolin> sgs1990, you getting any error messages or output of any kind?
[12:42] <sgs1990> pangolin,, sorry,, itworked the second time
[12:42] <mrp> oCean: doesn't seem to :(
[12:42] <pangolin> sgs1990, no problem
[12:42] <sgs1990> did the same tipo 2  times
[12:42] <mrp> oCean: trying to remover smaba4
[12:42] <kasii> DarwinSurvivor, waht to do
[12:42] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: i went through the link you sent and used this in terminal sudo dpkg --configure -a but there is no output or something terminal showed next prompt
[12:42] <DarwinSurvivor> ServerCrash: option 1) create a disk image. option 2) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UnattendedCD
[12:42] <sacarlson> ServerCrash: I'm not sure what minimal libs are needed for java
[12:43] <oCean> mrp: sudo apt-get autoremove will only remove packages if they don't satisfy any other dependency
[12:43] <thunder1212> pikaciu: http://pastebin.com/8z1i0JqM
[12:43] <DarwinSurvivor> kasii: is the partition on an interal hard drive, or a portable/external one?
[12:44] <pzt-> hello. I just deleted a kvm image (virsh delete /data/kvm-images/bla.img) but the space it should have freed up (around 2TB) isn't updating. (not visible in df or virsh pool-info) the dir -is- actually 2TB smaller, the img file is gone. any idea on how I can force an update?
[12:44] <thunder1212> DarwinSurvivor: what next
[12:44] <kasii> DarwinSurvivor,  internal one
[12:44] <mrp> oCean: i just install samba and it it install around 25 other packages
[12:44] <kasii> DarwinSurvivor,  see these  http://paste.ubuntu.com/917301/
[12:44] <bekks> pzt-: Release the file you delete, it is still in use somewhere.
[12:44] <pzt-> bekks, it doesn't show up in lsof
[12:44] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: terminal output http://imagebin.org/206944
[12:45] <DarwinSurvivor> kasii: please run gparted and check if there are any warning (yellow triangle with exclamation mark) on that partition
[12:45] <kasii> DarwinSurvivor,  let me try
[12:45] <Hunter-Eric> HI all
[12:46] <oCean> mrp: that might have brought in other packages, that brought their own dependencies. Check  dpkg -l | grep samba to see what is still installed
[12:46] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: would you be opposed to a reinstall? Normally I'd work through the PPA's, but with 15 old+current PPA's, it may be less work to reinstall :(
[12:46] <thunder1212> pikaciu: did u check the out put?
[12:46] <pikaciu> thunder1212: i'm reading
[12:46] <AMIGAS> how do you use uzbl?
[12:47] <pzt-> bekks, any ideas?
[12:47] <DarwinSurvivor> AMIGAS: http://www.uzbl.org/readme.php
[12:47] <thunder1212> DarwinSurvivor: do you want me to power off the system and then do what?
[12:47] <DarwinSurvivor> !man | AMIGAS
[12:48] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: what next to do i shut down my system and then waht
[12:48] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor : well i might lose all my data right??
[12:48] <pikaciu> thunder1212: when you enter - halt - as sudo ... what's the output ?
[12:48] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: have you tried switching to STTY2 (Ctrl+Alt+F2), then runnning "sudo shudown -h now" from there? if so, what was the LAST thing you saw on the screen and did it go black afterwards?
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  no further advice, maybe someone else can help
[12:49] <thunder1212> pikaciu: no out put i get the ubuntu shutdown screen with red dots and then it gets stuck in between
[12:49] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: do you have a backup of your files?
[12:49] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: will be back pls
[12:49] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: thnx
[12:49] <kasii> CHADEMA itashinda tena kule arusha
[12:49] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: alright, ping me when you return
[12:50] <kasii> jamani yeyote kati anayejua hii lugha ninayo andika hapa
[12:50] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: even when running it from STTY2?
[12:50] <sacarlson> thunder1212: you might see more of the shutdown event in tty mode
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> !en| kasii
[12:50] <kasii> eti hamna anye elewa hilllo
[12:50] <kasii> jitokezeni basi
[12:50] <kasii> wote hamuelewi
[12:51] <pikaciu> thunder1212: try to kill (kill -9 ) the kworker
[12:52] <kasii> haya bwana ila washenzi kwanini lazima iwe kingeredha
[12:52] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: please run the shutdown command from a TTY interface (Ctrl+Alt+F2, then login, then shutdown). that will hide the pretty dots and show actual messages of what  is happening
[12:53] <DarwinSurvivor> kasii: all your text is coming through as giberish, if it's a problem on your end please try reconnecting to IRC
[12:53] <thunder1212> pikaciu: do i type in the terminal kill -9
[12:54] <pikaciu> thunder1212: followed by the number given by ps -A relatd to kworker
[12:54] <pikaciu> as .es 2071
[12:55] <pikaciu> thunder1212: es kill -9 2071
[12:55] <thunder1212> pikaciu: so i enter " kill -9 2071 "
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> kworker has to with the difference between the apt-get and aptitude commands
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> has to do*
[12:56] <pikaciu> thunder1212: maybe is stuck
[12:56] <thunder1212> pikaciu: do i enter that plz confirm
[12:56] <pikaciu> yes
[12:56] <thunder1212> pikaciu: and whats getting stuck..
[12:57] <pikaciu> thunder1212: all the kworker processes
[12:57] <thunder1212> pikaciu: it says no such process
[12:58] <pikaciu> thunder1212: ps -A again go to the bottom and check the process number related to kworker and kill them
[12:58] <thunder1212> pikaciu: i think there are many kworker;s out there..
[12:58] <pikaciu> yes... may this  the issue
[12:59] <pikaciu> yes... maybe this is the issue
[13:00] <thunder1212> pikaciu: there are many kworker processes running which one to kill
[13:00] <pikaciu> all
[13:00] <pikaciu> thunder1212: all of them
[13:00] <thunder1212> pikaciu: then plz specify how do i kill all
[13:01] <pikaciu> thunder1212: in ps -a you can read the PID number... right '
[13:01] <pikaciu> ?
[13:01] <thunder1212> pikaciu: so u mean i kill them one by one..
[13:02] <pikaciu> thunder1212: with a pipe
[13:02] <MonkeyDu1t> thunder1212  http://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu
[13:03] <thunder1212> pikaciu: how to do that plzexplain..
[13:04] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: whats k worker doing on my system it should be there on kubuntu right
[13:05] <thunder1212> pikaciu: how to pipe ..
[13:05] <pikaciu> thunder1212: type ad sudo kill -9 followed by the PID number, ad example 2073. it's the ps -A command that gives you the exact number
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  the k means kernel, not kde
[13:05] <demicolon9> Hi I was wondering what the best channel would be to ask about general 'net and connection related questions. (vpn, proxy, etc) since I'll be moving overseas for a while but a have a few subscriptions here I'd like to keep.
[13:06] <pikaciu> thunder1212: but it's only a try... it's my opinion :)
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> demicolon9  try #network or #networking
[13:06] <oCean> demicolon9: try ##networking channel
[13:06] <demicolon9> MonkeyDust: & oCean Thanks a ton.
[13:07] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor:- how about doing that in apache
[13:07] <chenwj> anyone knows how I can fix this manually -> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=610618
[13:07] <oduku> i have apache server install on my ubuntu
[13:08] <oduku> sorry on remote ubuntu
[13:08] <pikaciu> i have to go bye
[13:09] <thunder1212> is there some way to reset my laptop to defaults..
[13:10] <Dr_willis> which defaults do you mean thunder1212
[13:10] <chenwj> ubottu: but I still have that problem
[13:10] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: could the guys in #lighttpd not get it going for you?
[13:10] <chenwj> :D
[13:10] <mephisto_> hello!
[13:11] <mephisto_>  I've updated my kernel and I think it's too new for the fglrx driver (it installs and runs but some errors are there) but the thing is I'd like to know if some of u guys gave the radeonHD a shot and what are your opinions about it. thanks a lot
[13:11] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor:- first , they r not replying at all...second i m having apache install on my remote ubuntu server..so wanna go with apache
[13:11] <chenwj> or where I can find nis postinst script?
[13:14] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: oh, well if you already have apache anyways, then may as well go with that!
[13:14] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: how much do you know about file permissions and apache configuration?
[13:14] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor:- next to zero..plz help
[13:15] <DarwinSurvivor> alright, what is apach configured to do already (php website, file server, django, etc)?
[13:16] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: ^^
[13:23] <demicolon9> Networking seems kind of slow. So I'll just ask here. Wife's got a paid subscription to crunchyroll and funimation. She wants to be able to continue to watch while in germany for a few years. Would it be best to go with a commercial proxy or vpn, or would it be feasable to leave one of our deskops behind at a friends place and turn that into a proxy?
[13:23] <demicolon9> Sorry for the semi-offtopic. If it helps at all, if I went with the third option, the left behind desktop would be running 'buntu.
[13:24] <Larss> Hello :)
[13:24] <Larss> Is anyone here?
[13:24] <DarwinSurvivor> demicolon9: I'm assuming it's blocked in germany?
[13:24] <ksmukeshkumar> how to install update from terminal ?
[13:24] <demicolon9> Larss: I'm here, though not sure how much helpi'll be =P
[13:25] <DrCode> hi all
[13:25] <Larss> demicolon9: Hi, thanks. I hate dropping by like this, but I'm pretty sure I corrupted my whole HDD.
[13:25] <scialex> ksmukeshkumar: type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' without the quotes to upgrade your system
[13:25] <demicolon9> DarwinSurvivor: It's crunchyroll isn't blocked but has less shows in germany. Funimation is blocked afaik
[13:25] <DrCode> I can\t use bluetooth headset in ubuntu 11.10
[13:25] <DrCode> I have install bluez-sco and so
[13:25] <DrCode> but still dosn't work
[13:25] <Larss> demicolon9: I tried to install Ubuntu as a partition but somehow ended up messing it all up, I also managed to ruin the ubuntu installation so that I couldn't boot from that. I tried booting for Windows 7 CD but got errors, and now I'm attemptying to zero out my HDD but it takes so long, do you have any suggestion? :v
[13:26] <arussel> I installed tomcat7 using the package, where can I put my setenv.sh ?
[13:26] <DrCode> it connec to bluetooth but no sound device, any idea?
[13:26] <DarwinSurvivor> ksmukeshkumar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowto#Maintenance_commands
[13:27] <demicolon9> Larss: that's never good news.I'd probably fire up a live CDand check the SMART status. Is the drive making any clicking noises? If yes, it wasn't you who made a mistake, just the drive giving out. Otherwise: zeroing out is overkill, a new partition table should do the trick.
[13:27] <Dr_willis> DrCode,   you may need to select the default audio devices using the pavchooser or pavcontrol tool.
[13:27] <DrCode> I can't find headset device in pavchooser list
[13:27] <Larss> demicolon9: I'm a total noob though, and yes, it makes clicking sound sometimes. How do I do what you're saying? I tried booting from a live CD but it didn't work.
[13:27] <DrCode> I check it also in alsa mixer and so
[13:27] <malik_> hi all, Please
[13:27] <DrCode> somthing dosn't work
[13:28] <DarwinSurvivor> demicolon9: what type of upload bandwidth does your friend have, and do they have a download/upload cap?
[13:28] <malik_> Please help me seyup a WIFI hotspot on my desktop machine
[13:28] <DrCode> in other headset device it work , but with jabra 2045 it dosn't
[13:28] <ksmukeshkumar> how to stop upgrade in terminal ?
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> DrCode  have you installed blueman?
[13:28] <DarwinSurvivor> remember, if they proxy 10GB for you, their ISP counts it as 20GB (10GB down, and 10GB up)
[13:28] <DrCode> no
[13:28] <DrCode> I am using bluez-manager only
[13:28] <demicolon9> if DarwinSurvivor no cap. Regular comcast cable, so I'm guessing 12 down 1 up or similar
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> DrCode  try blueman
[13:29] <fidel> Larss: the gui app 'disk utility' should be able to show a drives smart-status
[13:29] <DrCode> there is diffrent between blueman and bluz?
[13:29] <DrCode> MonkeyDust, , It better to remove bluez?
[13:29] <fidel> incase ir reports smart errors it might make sense to create a clone of your current disk to a backup drive and then continue investigating (backup first)
[13:29] <DarwinSurvivor> demicolon9: ok, what application is used to watch the videos (if a web browser, what plugin is required)?
[13:29] <Larss> fidel: i can't get to any gui
[13:29] <misha_g> hello
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> DrCode  yes, go ahead and try
[13:29] <Larss> fidel: No OS is functional
[13:30] <fidel> then is misread your input - my fault
[13:30] <Larss> It's alright, all input is appriciated.
[13:30] <zolw_> hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu 11.10 on my new laptop but i got the blank screen problem (with everything still running in the background). nomodestep doesn't seem to help. Any ideas? I tried 11.04 and had no luck there either
[13:30] <demicolon9> Larss: If the drive is making continual clicking noises there's a chance it's shot at the hardware level. Not much you can do there. Now a failing hard drive shouldn't prevent a live disc from booting, however. So try going into bios, find the option for boot priority and make sure the disc drive is number one. Once booted to the disk, open gparted and i can help you from there.
[13:30] <Larss> demicolon9: Not continual, just normal HD sounds.
[13:30] <demicolon9> DarwinSurvivor: It's accessed via web broser, using flash
[13:31] <Larss> demicolon9: Actually.. It's my CD rom.
[13:31] <Larss> When I try to boot from the Windows 7 CD I get An unexpected I/O error has occured.
[13:32] <demicolon9> Larss: clean off the windows disc and try again, otherwise try booding a linux liveCD if you have one still. The ubuntu one should be fine
[13:32] <Larss> demicolon9: Do I have to boot from another type of CD?
[13:32] <Larss> demicolon9: How do I clean it?
[13:32] <ssssss> Help me please. I'm with Xubuntu 11.10... I've only changed one setting (icon size) from SettingEditor > xsettings > gtk > iconsizes
[13:32] <ssssss> I just put the value "gtk-menu=26x26:gtk-button=26x26"
[13:32] <ssssss> And now xserver doesn't start!! :'(
[13:32] <ksmukeshkumar> please tell me how stop upgrade in between ?
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> DrCode  correction, i have both bluez and blueman installed
[13:32] <demicolon9> Larss: the ubuntu disc would work for example. Any linux livedisc really if you happen to have one layinga round.
[13:32] <Larss> demicolon9: I can boot into kernel
[13:33] <DarwinSurvivor> demicolon9: hmm, apparently flash is naughty and ignores proxy settings if it can make a direct connection on its own (which it will be able to, it will just not get the stream)
[13:33] <Larss> demicolon9: I'll boot into kernel and ask for help from there, haha
[13:33] <demicolon9> DarwinSurvivor: sad, maybe I can get around that with a Virtual Machine, though.
[13:33] <DarwinSurvivor> demicolon9: that's going to be a problem now matter WHAT method you chose, so let's skip that part for now
[13:34] <demicolon9> larss: okay, let me know when you're booted
[13:34] <ssssss> Help me please. I'm with Xubuntu 11.10... I've only changed one setting (icon size) from SettingEditor > xsettings > gtk > iconsizes
[13:34] <ssssss> I just put the value "gtk-menu=26x26:gtk-button=26x26"
[13:34] <ssssss> And now xserver doesn't start!! :'(
[13:34] <demicolon9> DarwinSurvivor: makes sense
[13:34] <Larss> demicolon9Text, Forensics, Debug or Memtest?
[13:34] <Larss> demicolon9: There's a few bootoptions on this disc
[13:35] <DarwinSurvivor> demicolon9: the absolute 100% easiest proxy server setup i've ever seen (and used) is setting up an ssh server, then logging into it using "ssh -D <port>". You can then use that port as a socks proxy in firefox and you are tunelled (except for a few naughty plugins that need a little kick in the butt)
[13:35] <jewsus> hey , is on this server any backtrack support channel? ty
[13:35] <zykotick9> !backtrack | jewsus
[13:35] <Larss> demicolon9: I want to use this disc to make it possible to use my Windows 7 CD
[13:35] <demicolon9> Larss give me a sec. I haven't been to command line only in a while. A tad bit rusty. Just for getting an idea of our options before proceeding. What OS discs do you have availabe?
[13:35] <Larss> demicolon9: A windows 7 CD and a Linux OS
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> jewsus  ##backtrack-linux
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> jewsus  #backtrack-linux
[13:36] <jewsus> ty very much indeed
[13:36] <Larss> demicolon9: I booted into the linux CD and I've got a few boot options, and my ultimate goal is to make the HD able to accept and install from my Windows 7 CD
[13:36] <adrtod> Hello, I am going to install the beta ubuntu 12.04 precise pangolin. I was wondering what happens when the release is available. Will I have to re-install the release or the update is automatic ?
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> !12.04| adrtod
[13:37] <zykotick9> !final | adrtod
[13:37] <demicolon9> Larss: Okay thanks. Do you know what distro exactly is on the disk?
[13:37] <tiago_> hello?
[13:37] <Larss> demicolon9: Backtrack
[13:37] <tiago_> geek stuff arround here
[13:38] <adrtod> tanks a lot, then i will proceed ;)
[13:38] <demicolon9> Larss: thanks
[13:38] <tiago_> im a webdeveloper u people need something?
[13:39] <bazhang> tiago_, is that related to ubuntu support?
[13:39] <DarwinSurvivor> tiago_: uduko was in earlier asking about serving an xml file over the network with apache, he said he'd be back in a little while
[13:39] <tiago_> :P
[13:40] <demicolon9> larss from what I gather there shouldbe a graphical environment we can boot to
[13:40] <Larss> There is
[13:40] <demicolon9> so just find out which boot option leads there
[13:40] <Larss> I forgot I didn't enable discrete graphics
[13:40] <Larss> But I did it now.
[13:40] <Larss> I'll get into the GUI, 2sec.
[13:41] <DarwinSurvivor> if anyone has a question and has not yet gotten a response (or has been dropped), please re-ask your question now
[13:41] <Teduardo> what do you have to hit to make the grub menu show on Ubuntu?
[13:41] <bazhang> DarwinSurvivor, there s no need for that
[13:41] <Teduardo> when it's booting
[13:41] <Dr_willis> grub2 = hold shift as it boots
[13:41] <zykotick9> Teduardo: hold SHIFT after bios
[13:41] <zolwsprint> hey, can anyone help with liveCD booting to black screen? nomodeset doest solve the problem
[13:41] <bazhang> Teduardo, shift
[13:41] <mentoc> I installed a newer kernel but now my wireless device doesn't work. Is there a way to get the old drivers over to the new install?
[13:41] <MarKsaitis> how do I perform rolling release upgrade?
[13:41] <Dr_willis> grub1 - tap escape i belive
[13:42] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, ubuntu is not rolling release
[13:42] <Teduardo> thanks =)
[13:42] <scotty^> zolwsprint: what video hardware do you have?
[13:42] <CyL> Hi, the next upcoming release (12.04) will also be mainstreamed in the server distro?
[13:42] <Dr_willis> CyL,  mainstreamed?
[13:42] <DarwinSurvivor> bazhang: any other suggestions, a lot of people are shy about asking a question 10 minutes later if nobody noticed it the first time
[13:42] <bazhang> CyL, #ubuntu+1 please
[13:42] <mentoc> I can find the driver's .h header files but no .ko files (3.2 kernel)
[13:43] <Larss> demicolon9: Soon there, my computer isn't the fastest around.
[13:43] <Dr_willis> mentoc,  reinstall the drivers after you are booted to the new kernel is the normal way
[13:43] <demicolon9> DarwinSurvivor: Thanks, sorry for the late reply. I'll look intot hat option =D
[13:43] <bazhang> DarwinSurvivor, Yes. answer if you see a question to you can help with.
[13:43] <MarKsaitis> bazhang, I dont know, whatever the magic word is! I have 11.04, how do I upgrade to 11.10 using a command?
[13:43] <MarKsaitis> thats what I want
[13:43] <CyL> Dr_willis: Sorry, I'm not a native English speaker, I mean if Ubuntu Server will also have a LTS 12.04 version
[13:43] <demicolon9> Larss no worries I have all day =P
[13:43] <ssssss> Help me please. I'm with Xubuntu 11.10... I've only changed one setting (icon size) from SettingEditor > xsettings > gtk > iconsizes
[13:43] <bazhang> !upgrade | MarKsaitis please have a read here
[13:43] <ssssss> I just put the value "gtk-menu=26x26:gtk-button=26x26"
[13:43] <ssssss> And now xserver doesn't start!! :'(
[13:43] <Dr_willis> CyL,  12.04 is a lts release. for both.
[13:43] <Larss> demicolon9: Woo, it worked. I really thought I got a Blackscreen of death there.
[13:44] <DarwinSurvivor> mentoc: do they exist in a deb package, that would be the simplest solution
[13:44] <Larss> demicolon9: So intense.
[13:44] <demicolon9> Larss awesome, now fire up gparted.
[13:44] <Larss> Alright, give me a second.
[13:44] <CyL> bazhang: Thanks for your advice, but please consider that maybe this could be a proper place as well, this is not a technical question
[13:44] <mentoc> DarwinSurvivor: It is the rt2x00pci driver which I can find in my /usr/src
[13:44] <DarwinSurvivor> bazhang: there were a few questions that were asked a long time ago when it was really busy that never got touched
[13:44] <Larss> demicolon9: Gparted is standard on a live CD?
[13:44] <mentoc> DarwinSurvivor: not that I can find it, but I mean I can see the .h files and dirs
[13:45] <bazhang> CyL, the place for 12.04 discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[13:45] <MarKsaitis> how do I know whether I have desktop or server ubuntu?
[13:45] <demicolon9> I read that backtrack would have it, if not we can worka round it. But it's the tool I know best
[13:45] <CyL> Dr_willis: Thanks for you helpfull advice
[13:45] <Larss> demicolon9: Alright, second.
[13:45] <demicolon9> I can't type today... wow.
[13:45] <mentoc> /usr/src/linux-3.2.14/drivers/net/wireless/rtx200/*
[13:45] <Larss> demonspork: I tried doing gparted in kernel but it's not installed
[13:45] <Larss> wops
[13:46] <CyL> bazhang: This is not a specific 12.04 discussion, it is a general question about Ubuntu release schedule. I will ask there as well.
[13:46] <zolwsprint> scotty^: AMD Radeon HD 6490M
[13:46] <MarKsaitis> how do I know whether I have desktop or server ubuntu?
[13:46] <DarwinSurvivor> mentoc: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860574
[13:46] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: they are both the same
[13:46] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: the desktop edition has a gui, the server not
[13:47] <Larss> demicolon9: how do I star gparted?
[13:47] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: rest is the same (12.04) before the i386 kernel was different (pae/non pae)
[13:47] <MarKsaitis> I see =)
[13:47] <imyousuf> I have defined 'Host_Alias HOME = <IP_ADDRESS>' and '%admin HOME = (ALL) ALL' using visudo; this blocks sudo from every IP. Can someone please help me in what I am doing wrong?
[13:47] <zolwsprint> scotty^: actually no sorry its  AMD Radeon HD 6545G2
[13:47] <DarwinSurvivor> MarKsaitis: do you remember the installation? if it was done with a mouse, you have desktop edition, if it was by keyboard it could be server or alternate
[13:47] <demicolon9> okay
[13:47] <mentoc> DarwinSurvivor: I think this will get me started in the right direction. Thank you.
[13:48] <demicolon9> Larss: try typing gparted from a terminal window
[13:48] <demicolon9> if it's not installed, oh well, we can use fdisk instead
[13:48] <Larss> It's not installed
[13:48] <demicolon9> okay
[13:48] <demicolon9> then take a look at this: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/fdisk_partitioning.html
[13:49] <Larss> demicolon9: Okay, thanks.
[13:49] <Larss> demicolon9: I have three partitions, Linux, Extended and Linux Swap/Solaris
[13:49] <demicolon9> Larss any data you wish to keep?
[13:50] <Larss> Nope
[13:50] <Larss> ZERO
[13:50] <Larss> Already lost all my Windows files.
[13:50] <Larss> As I am aware of
[13:50] <DarwinSurvivor> ssssss: has anyone helped you yet?
[13:50] <demicolon9> do you intend to dual boot in the future or do you just want just windows for now?
[13:50] <Larss> I'll just use Virtual Box.
[13:50] <demicolon9> works, ok
[13:50] <ssssss> DarwinSurvivor: no :( now I've gone in ubuntu-italy and they're trying
[13:50] <Larss> What are the downsides with vbox?
[13:51] <demicolon9> Larss speeeed, hardware support and speed.
[13:51] <Larss> Ah
[13:51] <scotty^> zolwsprint:  The first one sound more likely.  The outoput of lspci -vvnn |grep VGA will tell you for sure
[13:51] <imyousuf> I have defined 'Host_Alias HOME = <IP_ADDRESS>' and '%admin HOME = (ALL) ALL' using visudo; this blocks sudo from every IP. Can someone please help me in what I am doing wrong? (re-run)
[13:51] <DarwinSurvivor> ssssss: what desktop are you using? (unity, gnome-shell, kde, lmde, xfce, etc)
[13:51] <Larss> I'll just end up ruining my HDD if I dual boot, I guess.
[13:51] <Larss> demicolon9: Actually, I'll dual boot. Nevermind that
[13:51] <demicolon9> larss if you want an easy way to get a feel for linux try kanotix, works with most hardware out of the box, complete with 3d acceleration.No need for an install since it's a liveCD
[13:52] <Larss> it's mostly due to messing up my partitions,
[13:52] <Larss> Haha
[13:52] <scotty^> But I think you will need the Precise kernel for a HD6000 card to work.  I don't think the Oneiric kernel is new enough to have the necessary pieces of code.  Hold on while I try to check.
[13:52] <Larss> So, what do I do next?
[13:52] <ssssss> DarwinSurvivor: xfce. They are said me to rm the entire home directory and reboot (because the system has been installed today)
[13:52] <demicolon9> ok. if you want to dual boot, I'd create three partitions. I usually do 1/2 or 3/4 of the disk windows, 2 gigs swap, rest linux
[13:53] <Larss> demicolon9: Alright, but I have to install Windows first, right?
[13:53] <demicolon9> yes
[13:53] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: please pastebin your entire sudoers files
[13:53] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: please pastebin your entire sudoers file
[13:53] <Larss> Ok,
[13:53] <imyousuf> ok DarwinSurvivor
[13:53] <Larss> demicolon9: Can I merge the partition table first?
[13:54] <demicolon9> actually so we don't confuse windows, let's do this! create a new partition table (discarding the old one) then create just a partition for windows and leavethe rest unformatted
[13:54] <Larss> Alright
[13:54] <L3mce> scotty^: I know that the HD3000 will go on Lucid with accel and HDMI audio with Natty modules backported.
[13:54] <demicolon9> so create just one partition, but make it less than the full size of the disk
[13:54] <Larss> How much less?
[13:55] <demicolon9> as much less as you want room for linux, +2GB
[13:55] <demicolon9> depending on the distro and HD size 16-32 GB for linux is plenty
[13:55] <Larss> Alright.
[13:55] <Larss> demicolon9: How do I write a new partition table? It doesn't say apparently.
[13:56] <Larss> demicolon9: Sorry for being bad, never used linux.
[13:56] <ssssssss> It didn't work
[13:56] <ssssssss> :(
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> demicolon9  in a terrminal, type sudo fdisk -l to see what it looks like
[13:56] <DarwinSurvivor> ssssssss: ok, what exactly is it doing right now?
[13:56] <demicolon9> larss what MonkeyDust said
[13:56] <Larss> I did, there's three partitions there.
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> wrong nick, sorry guys
[13:57] <Larss> sda1 2 and 5
[13:57] <ssssssss> DarwinSurvivor: login screen appears. I click on username, and for 1sec a black screen with writes appears, and disappears instantly
[13:57] <demicolon9> MonkeyDust: no prob thanks for the help. I haven't used fdisk in ages, so you chiming is is great.
[13:57] <ssssssss> if I try Guestuser it works. I'm on it now
[13:57] <demicolon9> *chiming in
[13:57] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: http://pastebin.com/0XUR7Ke2 Here is the sudoers file
[13:58] <zolwsprint> scotty^: how do i get to a command line though from the live cd boot menu? sorry i'm new to it!
[13:58] <demicolon9> larss looks like you just type n
[13:58] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: It does not matter from which host I try sudo, it still restricts me from executing it.
[13:58] <demicolon9> larss this guide is better: http://download.parallels.com/desktop/v5/docs/en/Parallels_Desktop_Users_Guide/23117.htm
[13:59] <ssssssss> DarwinSurvivor: I tried to run "startx" from the terminal and it gives an error
[13:59] <StudentDerHerzen> hi
[13:59] <StudentDerHerzen> who knows some good Sexchannel for germany
[13:59] <ikonia> StudentDerHerzen: please don't ask again in here
[13:59] <bazhang> StudentDerHerzen, wrong network
[14:00] <Larss> demicolon9: Unable to open /dev/hda
[14:00] <ikonia> Larss: nothing references /dev/hda any more
[14:00] <ikonia> Larss: what are you trying to do ?
[14:01] <Larss> oh it's sda
[14:01] <Larss> Sorry
[14:01] <demicolon9> Larss does it work that way?
[14:01] <Larss> It worked.
[14:01] <Larss> I've fdisked into my HD
[14:01] <StudentDerHerzen> wer mag bei nem Porno mitmachen
[14:01] <demicolon9> Nice
[14:01] <Larss> and I've run the new command
[14:01] <DarwinSurvivor> !pastebinit | ssssssss
[14:01] <Larss> Now I get two options, logical or primary partition
[14:01] <demicolon9> then when done just do w
[14:02] <Larss> Do I make a primary or logical? I guess primary?
[14:02] <demicolon9> primary
[14:02] <Larss> Also, it says (1-4)
[14:02] <Larss> behind
[14:02] <Larss> 1?
[14:02] <Larss> so, primary 1
[14:02] <DarwinSurvivor> ssssssss: install pastebinit, then run "startx 2>&1 | pastebinit"
[14:02] <demicolon9> either number works, but roll with 1
[14:02] <Larss> demicolon9: Partition 1 is already defined.
[14:02] <Larss> Delete before re-adding
[14:03] <demicolon9> hmm
[14:03] <ikonia> Larss: what are you trying to actually do ?
[14:03] <Larss> ikonia: I'm not sure
[14:03] <ikonia> Larss: ok, so why are you typing random commands ?
[14:03] <Larss> ikonia: I'm trying to repartition my system and make a partition for my windows 7 system
[14:03] <Larss> ikonia: Because my HD is corrupted
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> !fdisk
[14:03] <ikonia> Larss: corrupted ?
[14:03] <scotty^> zolwsprint: Umm, not sure how to boot the LiveCD to a command line - you might have to ask someone else about that or search the Ubuntu Wiki.  But first try this.  When you get the black screen press CTRL+ALT+F2 and see if you get a virtual terminal.
[14:03] <Larss> ikonia: I can't boot any windows cds
[14:03] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: hang on - don't just throw random stuff at him
[14:03] <ikonia> Larss: ok, that's nothing to do with your hard disk
[14:04] <ikonia> Larss: your CD drive is seperate from your hard disk
[14:04] <Larss> ikonia: Yeah, I know. I'm not good at this.
[14:04] <ikonia> Larss: that's fine
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> ikonia  just testing if there was a message associated to it
[14:04] <Larss> ikonia: I can boot but I get an error.
[14:04] <tafelpoot> So, I have a server which is unreachable via ssh... I had a shell open but I lost it by doing a ps aux| grep ssh, now it just hangs... ls didn't give any problems
[14:04] <ikonia> Larss: ok, what's the error you get ?
[14:04] <Larss> ikonia: Ahh, let me try to remember.
[14:04] <pangolin> MonkeyDust, test in PM with the bot please
[14:04] <tafelpoot> does anyone have an idea how to troubleshoot further?
[14:05] <demicolon9> 08:31] <Larss> When I try to boot from the Windows 7 CD I get An unexpected I/O error has occured.
[14:05] <Larss> An unexpected I
[14:05] <Larss> yes
[14:05] <Larss> that
[14:05] <ikonia> Larss: does your computer only have Windows on it ?
[14:05] <Larss> No, only linux.
[14:05] <sssssssss01> pastebininit id not found in repositories
[14:05] <tafelpoot> DarwinSurvivor: still there?
[14:06] <ikonia> Larss: is Linux installed ? or running from a livecd ?
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> sssssssss01  it's pastebinit, not pastebininit
[14:06] <sssssssss01> lol thx
[14:06] <Larss> It's running from a livecd right now, but my linux is corrupted due to me partly zeroing my HDD ikonia
[14:06] <DarwinSurvivor> ssssssss: install pastebinit, then run "startx 2>&1 | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com"
[14:06] <DarwinSurvivor> ssssssss: add the -b http.... part
[14:06] <ikonia> Larss: ok, can I make a suggestion to make this easier for you
[14:06] <Larss> ikonia: go ahead
[14:07] <zykotick9> DarwinSurvivor: why try to get startx output?  /var/log/Xorg.0.log should show the same/similar info.
[14:07] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: please paste the output of "id"
[14:07] <sssssssss01> ok
[14:07] <ikonia> Larss: sort out installing windws, that will partition it for you, then deal with Linux
[14:07] <Larss> demicolon9: Thanks for the help by the way
[14:07] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: http://pastebin.com/0XUR7Ke2
[14:07] <Larss> ikoniaI will
[14:07] <DarwinSurvivor> zykotick9: oh yeah, forgot about that :P
[14:07] <ikonia> Larss: you'll find it easier to install windows, then deal with Linux
[14:08] <Larss> ikonia: But I can't boot my windows 7 CD
[14:08] <Larss> ikonia: So I can't install it.
[14:08] <ikonia> Larss: ok, that's a seperate issue
[14:08] <ikonia> Larss: the guys in ##windows can explain the process to get replacement media
[14:08] <pangolin> ikonia, wouldn't partially zeroing his HDD cause errors? would he not need to complete the job first?
[14:09] <ikonia> pangolin: when he installs windows, it will create a new partition table so the partial zero's on the legacy partitions won't matter
[14:09] <pangolin> ah, makes sense
[14:09] <ikonia> pangolin: although the data doesn't get changed when the partition table is rebuilt, all reference to it will
[14:09] <mtrd`w> hi, i'm trying to set up a ssh server on my computer, all i can find tells me how to add id-rsa keys. the fact is that i would like to find how to set it up, with the password asking
[14:10] <DarwinSurvivor> mtrd`w: is there any particular reason you want to use passwords? id-rsa keys are WAY, WAY more secure and you can password protect the keys themselves
[14:10] <zykotick9> mtrd`w: password is default.  "sudo apt-get install ssh" will install client/server.
[14:11] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: Is the link that you wanted? or something else?
[14:11] <mtrd`w> DarwinSurvivor: yes, there is. i use id-rsa keys on other connections :)
[14:11] <mtrd`w> zykotick9: is it then automaticly configured ?
[14:11] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: just paste the output of the "id" command (it should only be one line)
[14:11] <spyvsspy> how do I force an oldger version of a package?
[14:11] <MarKsaitis> Who told me that I cant upgrade 11.04 to 11.10?!!! In openvz?
[14:11] <zykotick9> mtrd`w: pretty much to a working state ya
[14:11] <spyvsspy> older version to install   mean*
[14:12] <mtrd`w> alright
[14:12] <spyvsspy> I need  libebook1.2-10 but 11.10 doesnt provide it
[14:12] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: uid=1002(sample) gid=1002(sample) groups=111(admin),1002(sample)
[14:12] <mtrd`w> thank you zykotick9! :)
[14:12] <MarKsaitis> Who told me that I cant upgrade 11.04 to 11.10?!!! In openvz? It's easilly durable and works just fine
[14:12] <L3mce> does Xorg.0.log exist if you don't have an xorg.conf? using xrander or whatever?
[14:13] <L3mce> I guess it still would.
[14:13] <zykotick9> L3mce: /var/log - xorg.conf doesn't "usually" matter for the log
[14:13] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, no one told you that
[14:13] <L3mce> Yeah... X is X... was just curious.
[14:13] <MarKsaitis> bazhang, somebody did =) I cant remember who now
[14:13] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: alright, the problem is that <IP_ADDRESS> is NOT your lan, that is your router. you need something like <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[14:13] <mklappstuhl> Hey, I'm trying to install the soundcli gem after installing Ruby according to the wiki... I get this error though: Could not create Makefile due to some reason[...]
[14:14] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, did you have an actual support question
[14:14] <mklappstuhl> I have ruby-1.8dev installed
[14:14] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: that will allow any admin-grouped users from any ip starting with 192.168.1. to use sudo
[14:14] <MarKsaitis> the only problem is that apache2 service isnt running anymore by default
[14:14] <DarwinSurvivor> sssssssss02: you're back
[14:14] <scotty^> zolwsprint: OK, I've checked and KMS support should be in the Natty and Oneiric kernels, which should allow you to boot.  But for OpenGL demos and games (and probably WebGL too) you will need the fixes in the Oneiric kernel.  I'm not sure why it's not booting for you as I think you said you had Oneiric?
[14:14] <sssssssss02> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/917477
[14:14] <L3mce> mklappstuhl: The reason would be important. Typically if it is a missing header file, you would install the package which provides that header
[14:14] <sssssssss02> sorry
[14:14] <sssssssss02> is the connection
[14:15] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: I want to test with individual hosts too, since thats something I want to achieve as well
[14:15] <L3mce> header = something.h
[14:15] <DarwinSurvivor> sssssssss02: please post output of "ps x" and "ps aux"
[14:15] <zolwsprint> I was trying 11.10 yeah
[14:15] <sssssssss02> ook
[14:15] <zolwsprint> it does boot, but the screen blanks (still sounds etc of a successful bootup)
[14:16] <MarKsaitis> bazhang, yes i do. Is sysv system deactivated in ubuntu 11.10?
[14:17] <bazhang> !upstart > MarKsaitis
[14:17] <MarKsaitis> as my chkconfig says apache2 is on, but it doesnt auto start. service apache2 start works fine
[14:17] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: Any idea how to do it for per host basis?
[14:17] <L3mce> mklappstuhl: Before you try again, remember to run make clean
[14:17] <MarKsaitis> bazhang, my question is, is sysv deactivated in ubuntu 11.10
[14:18] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: yes it is
[14:18] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: sysv init is no longer in the ubuntu release
[14:18] <Zenger> hi guys, so I'm having  a problem. I want to run a soft called emma, it's a python utility for database .
[14:18] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, ok. Can I then delete /etc/init.d folder?
[14:18] <Que> I have written a turorial on how to set up a git repository on Ubuntu and use it with X-Code, http://www.querika.com/?page_id=109
[14:18] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: no
[14:18] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: there is still an init process, it's just no longer a sysv init
[14:18] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, and, why apache2 startup scripts havent been migrated to the new upstart system by release upgrade?
[14:18] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: what do you mean?
[14:18] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, why not if its all gone =)
[14:19] <zolwsprint> scotty^:it does boot, but the screen blanks (still sounds etc of a successful bootup)
[14:19] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: because I've just told you, it's not
[14:19] <prodnix> hi all, I have a problem which i cant seem to fix. (Reading database ... 85%dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:
[14:19] <prodnix>  files list file for package 'file' is missing final newline. Any ideas?
[14:19] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, but new init process works with /etc/init and not /etc/init.d!
[14:19] <Zenger> But the problem is i use LAMPP (xampp for linux ), which locates it's mysqld.sock in an internal folder, this emma soft tries to use the usual /var/run/mysqld sock, but there is no file.
[14:19] <Zenger> I want to know if I can make a ln to that sock, and if emma will use it properly
[14:19] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: if you want to delete /etc/init.d, please do so, but remember, I warned you not to
[14:19] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: You mentioned to fix it for a network address, but I want to achieve for a single host, any idea how I can achieve that?
[14:19] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, so is sysv in my 11.10 system or is it not?
[14:19] <xilo> anyone know why the ubuntu software just sits there with loading screen forever when i try to click on my other synced box?
[14:19] <zykotick9> !xampp | Zenger
[14:19] <Zenger> or can I change somehow the code of emma, since it's a python build
[14:19] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: "no" as I've told you, sysv init is no longer installed on ubuntu
[14:20] <DarwinSurvivor> prodnix: is this a repo package, or a downloaded .deb file?
[14:20] <Zenger> GREAT :)
[14:20] <Zenger> zykotick9, thank you
[14:20] <eniltalF> Does anyone know if 12.04 is going to come with Gnome 3 as an option, or will it have to be manually installed?
[14:20] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor:-  i have install it for running evergreen ils software
[14:20] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, if it is no longer in there, who uses /etc/init.d folder? Which system? And why my not working /etc/init.d scripts have not been migrated to /etc/init ?
[14:20] <prodnix> DarwinSurvivor: No idea, im just trying to upgrade and get hit with this error
[14:20] <scotty^> zolwsprint: Yeah, sorry.  I meant to say I'm not sure why it's booting to a blank screen.  Are you booting the Ubuntu 11.10 LiveCD?
[14:21] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: yes, use that hosts address (like you did with <IP_ADDRESS>)
[14:21] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: yes, use that hosts address (like you did with <IP_ADDRESS>)
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> eniltalF  gnome 3 is default since some time now
[14:21] <sssssssss02> (16:17:08) sssssssss02: ps aux --> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/917484
[14:21] <sssssssss02> (16:17:08) sssssssss02: ps x ----> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/917485
[14:21] <sssssssss02> (16:20:32) sssssssss02: (I'm with guest user, and switching from it to CtrlALT-F1 to paste you commands..... for this reason there is firefox, and others
[14:21] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: I'll say it one last time, there is still an init system, it still has legacy scripts and references to the init.d folder, if YOU wish to delete it, please do so, but you have been warned
[14:21] <imyousuf> but that ain't working DarwinSurvivor, any idea why?
[14:21] <DarwinSurvivor> eniltalF: 11.10 already has gnome3 as an option, just install "gnome-shell" and have fun
[14:21] <zolwsprint> scotty^: well usb but i tried cd and had the same issue
[14:22] <prodnix> DarwinSurvivor: This error appears every time i try doin anythin in apt-get
[14:22] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, but I thought init sysv has been replaced by upstart init system?
[14:22] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: it has
[14:22] <eniltalF> Sorry, I meant GNOME Shell...
[14:22] <DarwinSurvivor> prodnix: sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/*.bin; sudo apt-get update
[14:23] <xreal> What parameters do *you* use to run iozone?
[14:23] <MarKsaitis> so, ikonia, do you mean some upstart init system scripts in /etc/init have some references to scripts in /etc/init.d ?
[14:23] <scotty^> zolwsprint: Are you booting the Ubuntu 11.10?
[14:23] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: you haven't used <IP_ADDRESS> in your config, all you did was name it IMRAN, but then never used it.
[14:23] <demicolon9> I'll be off, thanks again everyone.
[14:24] <itaylor57> MarKsaitis, you might try reading http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[14:24] <Zx432> Do proprietary drivers for nvidi update automatically?
[14:24] <auronandace> eniltalF: gnome shell has been available since 11.10
[14:24] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: instead of ignoring what I'm telling you and asking the same question over and over, why don't you actually read the scripts in /etc/init.d/ and then decide if you can delete /etc/init.ld
[14:24] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: the only host alias you *used* was LAN which is only <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:24] <zolwsprint> scotty^: yep it is 11.10
[14:24] <zykotick9> Zx432: did you download from nvidia.com?
[14:24] <Zx432> no
[14:24] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: that is intentional, is it a problem if I define and don't use? I am trying to do sudo from 1.1 but failing
[14:24] <eniltalF> Thanks. I am still using 10.04 - haven't found a need to upgrade yet.
[14:24] <zykotick9> Zx432: if it's from ubuntu repo, it will update (like everything else)
[14:24] <prodnix> DarwinSurvivor: Didnt help, get the same problem again when i "apt-get upgrade"
[14:24] <DarwinSurvivor> Zx432: if you install them from the repository, then yes
[14:24] <Zx432> Ok
[14:25] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: what computer is assigned <IP_ADDRESS>?
[14:25] <Zenger> zykotick9, using tasksel i've installed that stack build, how can I run it and in general work with it ? is there any small doc or tut ?
[14:25] <imyousuf> even commenting unused Host_Alias does not help DarwinSurvivor
[14:25] <Zx432> I used the ubuntu manager for the added drivers. I don't know how it is called in English.
[14:26] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: my computer is 1.101, I first logged into 1.1 and then from there to the computer the sudoer is configured to.
[14:26] <zykotick9> Zenger: i'm unware of good documentation link sorry.
[14:26] <zykotick9> Zx432: that's the ubuntu-repo version - you're all good
[14:26] <sssssssss02> ps aux --> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/917484
[14:26] <sssssssss02> ps x ----> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/917485
[14:26] <sssssssss02> DarwinSurvivor (I'm with guest user, and switching from it to CtrlALT-F1 to paste you commands..... for this reason there is firefox, and others
[14:26] <Zenger> could you at least tell me where the www folder , the php.ini, apache's httpd and files are located ?
[14:27] <ikonia> sssssssss02: stop that
[14:27] <Zx432> Is there any update planned?
[14:27] <DarwinSurvivor> sssssssss02: you seem to has a user 115 with a bunch of xorg stuff already running which seems to be causing a conflict.
[14:27] <sssssssss02> ikonia: stop what..?
[14:27] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, im not ignoring anything. I am repeating again! I have apache and other startup scripts in /etc/init.d . Apache isnt starting automatically anymore. I just confirmed that this is because sysv init is gone (BYE BYE TO IT). Therefore, none of my scripts /etc/init.d get executed anymore. As I understand from all of you, only scripts from /etc/init get executed now. And if you all say that new init system call
[14:27] <MarKsaitis> ed upstart is only using scripts from /etc/init (Not from /etc/init.d!!), then who else uses /etc/init.d scripts inside my system and how technically?
[14:27] <ikonia> sssssssss02: you've posted that link again
[14:27] <zykotick9> Zenger: /var/www - you you need to look into hosts-available/hosts-enabled stuff.  good luck.
[14:27] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: read the scripts, you'll get a better understanding
[14:27] <Zenger> zykotick9, ty
[14:28] <zykotick9> Zenger: /etc/apache2/ for config stuff
[14:28] <sssssssss02> DarwinSurvivor: if I exit from here, I can't chat........ And I've already tried without it and it's the same thing. What can I do?
[14:28] <karl_> absolutely nothing
[14:29] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, I did read the scripts in /etc/init.d .  What is the damn point of them being in there and not being in use because MRSYSV (The chap who layed with these scripts) is no longer ALIVE.
[14:29] <DarwinSurvivor> sssssssss02: do you have another computer you can chat from?
[14:29] <scotty^> !sysvinit
[14:29] <scotty^> !sysv
[14:29] <Zx432> Flash and HTML5 are causing problems for me. They are lagging. I tried everything. I think it must be the drivers. The system is strong enough and in works ok in Win7.
[14:29] <scotty^> !upstart
[14:30] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: not everything is migrated to upstart, some references will still remain until they are all migrated. The later the ubuntu version, the less remain
[14:30] <sssssssss02> DarwinSurvivor: actually not :(
[14:30] <DarwinSurvivor> sssssssss02: if you can't get X to start, how did you start the X session you are now for chatting?
[14:30] <prodnix> Any other ideas for "(Reading database ... 85%dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: files list file for package 'file' is missing final newline"? happens whenever I try to installsomething with apt
[14:30] <sssssssss02> DarwinSurvivor: I said: with my user "Mauro" doesn't start... with Guest User yes..
[14:32] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: any suggestion on how to fix the sudoers file?
[14:32] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, so here is my question again, with some details: in 11.04 these scripts were launched automatically - I suppose sysv did that. Now, after upgrade to 11.10, they are not launched - I suppose thats because sysv isnt launching them because there is no sysv. If nobody is launching them, why did release upgrade did not migrate my apache2 init.d script to the upstart? And wha tdo I do about it?
[14:33] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: sysv was not in 11.04
[14:33] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, if sysv was not in 11.04, then whooo launched apache2 for me all the time?
[14:33] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: sysv was removed 9.10 I think from memory
[14:33] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: upstart did
[14:34] <MarKsaitis> if apache2 startup script is in init.d and not in init folder, then how upstart could have launched it for me?
[14:34] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: as I've told you 3 times now, there are still legacy references to sysv init scripts from upstart as they get migrated
[14:35] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, ok. Which one of upstart scripts launch apache2 legacy script then?
[14:35] <MarKsaitis> as there is no apache.conf in there
[14:35] <ikonia> I have no idea without looking, that's why I suggested looking at the scripts
[14:35] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: the fact that there is no apache2.conf suggests that "may" be your problem and your upgrade didn't go smooth
[14:36] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, there was no apache2.conf even before the upgrade but it was launching
[14:36] <MarKsaitis> so here u go
[14:36] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: yes, i think i found the problem, just a sec
[14:36] <imyousuf> sure
[14:36] <DarwinSurvivor> sssssssss02: can you create a brand-new user and see if they can log in (as a test user)?
[14:37] <sssssssss02> no worry anymore DarwinSurvivor. thanks for help!
[14:37] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: the hosts entry is not what you think it is http://serverfault.com/questions/90166/defining-hosts-in-sudoers-file
[14:38] <DarwinSurvivor> sssssssss02: did you solve the problem?
[14:39] <MarKsaitis> how do I remove apache2 completelly?
[14:40] <MarKsaitis> I wan't to reinstall it
[14:40] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: specifying the host allows for the same sudoers configuration to be used across an entire network and only have certain rules apply for certain hosts. it does NOT check which computer a user connected from
[14:40] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: package manager, purge
[14:40] <MarKsaitis> ikonia why not remove?