[11:33] <cfhowlett> Jeeves_Moss, "citadel" was the package I read about. no direct experience with it, however.
[11:34] <hashworks> *bump* When I open a new link in chrome it moves chrome to the main monitor, same for other programs. Any way to turn this behaviour off?
[11:34] <adminus> hello test )
[11:35] <cfhowlett> !test | adminus
[11:35] <Jeeves_Moss> cfhowlett, thanks.  googling now
[11:36] <hardtail> i am editing 'try ubunti' supposed to replace quiet splash with 'video=VGA-1:1368x768e reboot=pci,force i am unable to type character after 'v' wtf?
[11:37] <Jeeves_Moss> stupid rsync.  grrr, I'm going to be here a while
[11:38] <tuga3d> hi all, anyone having trouble with emphaty google talk login?
[11:38] <hardtail> !touch
[11:38] <Jeeves_Moss> tuga3d, sorry, I'm not empathic to your situation
[11:39] <tuga3d> :)
[11:39] <hashworks> tuga3d: Well, I need to relogin quite often
[11:40] <tuga3d> hashworks: i cant login at all
[11:40] <hashworks> What type of security do you use @Google?
[11:40] <hashworks> And are you loggin in with your account pw or app-pw? app-pw aren't working
[11:41] <tuga3d> hashworks:  the normal one, not the 2 steps one
[11:42] <tuga3d> i«ve checked the permitions on the google account settings, and i have permitions set to ubuntu
[11:42] <hashworks> 2-steps should work as well
[11:42] <hashworks> And you're loggin in with your normal acc?
[11:42] <tuga3d> hashworks: tnks, gonna try changing it
[11:43] <tuga3d> hashworks: yep
[11:43] <hashworks> hm
[11:45] <black-core> hallo guys
[11:45] <black-core> i'm newbie
[11:45] <Jeeves_Moss> apparently
[11:45] <black-core> hallo
[11:46] <cfhowlett> black-core, ask your #ubuntu questions
[11:46] <hashworks> The english version uses an "e" black-core
[11:46] <Jeeves_Moss> ahhh, gotta love data center to data center xfers
[11:51] <tuga3d> doesnt work :( now i cant login with my phone :) getting worse
[11:56] <tuga3d> how can i see what error is giving empathy?
[11:58] <Jeeves_Moss> tuga3d, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1163726
[11:59] <tuga3d> Jeeves_Moss: thnks
[12:00] <Jeeves_Moss> np
[12:00] <Jeeves_Moss> does anyone have the correct setting for apache to make awstats work?  mine isn't showing the icons
[12:01] <sabbie> einyx: changing the mirror, running apt-get update and changing it back does fix it
[12:06] <tuga3d> Jeeves_Moss: theres only logs from previous conversations, i wanted logs from the application itself (i'm having trouble connecting to google talk)
[12:10] <MagicSpud> hello does anybody know why  my text files are replicating? next to a file I find file~
[12:10] <trijntje> MagicSpud: thats a temporary file that gedit puts there
[12:10] <MagicSpud> trijntje what for?
[12:10] <sacarlson> MagicSpud: it's the backup of the last one before you edited it
[12:10] <MagicSpud> trijntje,  I already have the original one
[12:10] <k1l_> MagicSpud: as backup
[12:11] <k1l_> in case gedit hangs and will accidently remove that file
[12:11] <MagicSpud> but it is not temporary
[12:11] <tuga3d> MagicSpud: are u using gedit?
[12:11] <k1l_> MagicSpud: just don mind that backup file
[12:11] <MagicSpud> since it popped out...it is still there
[12:11] <sacarlson> MagicSpud: it will be rewriten again with the last contents
[12:11] <MagicSpud> but that is a mess
[12:12] <trijntje> MagicSpud: just hide hidden files and folders and you wont see them
[12:12] <MagicSpud> I dont need a backup of every single gedit file
[12:12] <tuga3d> MagicSpud: u can disable it in the preferences
[12:12] <sacarlson> MagicSpud: it won't be when you find you totaly mest up something and can go back one day
[12:12] <tuga3d> true, true
[12:14] <tuga3d> ok, something is wrong with empathy, pidgin is working
[12:14] <trijntje> MagicSpud: by default you cannot see those files, just hit ctrl + H to hide them in the file viewer
[12:14] <MagicSpud> okay okay
[12:15] <MagicSpud> backup files got it
[12:16] <k1l_> one day he will be angry about himself disabling that backup-files :/
[12:16] <trijntje> yep
[12:19] <tuga3d> ok, found a work around
[12:20] <tuga3d> anyone having trouble with empathy logging in with google account do: killall -6 signonpluginprocess
[12:21] <tarelerulz> Why update from 14.04 to 14.10?
[12:21] <k1l_> tarelerulz: its your choice
[12:21] <Bayangan> hi guys, can i make gtk window rounded in bottom
[12:21] <tarelerulz> and pros and cans?
[12:22] <k1l_> tarelerulz: if you dont know stay on LTS (14.04)
[12:22] <Jeeves_Moss> LTS is a good thing on servers.  I learned that one the hard way
[12:22] <tarelerulz> I got netflix working and I was wondering if anything else cool might work now.
[12:24] <Jeeves_Moss> tarelerulz, via a browser?
[12:24] <tarelerulz> Yes , the browser
[12:24] <k1l_> netflix removed that useragent request. so no need to do anything.
[12:24] <Jeeves_Moss> lol, want a challange?  try to get it working with the native client!
[12:25] <tarelerulz> You mean the desktop version of Netflix ?
[12:26] <Jeeves_Moss> yes
[12:26] <Jeeves_Moss> has anyone had a cat that chases it's own tail?
[12:26] <Svetlana> yes, a kitten
[12:26] <tarelerulz> Well, I don't code so that would be a really hard thing to do .
[12:27] <Jeeves_Moss> this one is 4.5 years old.
[12:28] <Jeeves_Moss> argh.  growing the disk on a VM production MySQL server.  nothing like a little stress for your morning.  Why isn't there a command that can be run like windows to expand the disk?
[12:33] <tarelerulz> What video streaming services do you all use in the web browser ?  netflix ,  Hulu  plus ,  Google video service (paid) ect
[12:34] <esmobg> hulu and netflix not work in kde :(
[12:35] <tarelerulz> I use the stock  Ubuntu update as much as it can and I got it working.
[12:35] <esmobg> i  use mint  17 kde
[12:36] <tarelerulz> Well, I think you need  NSS  update
[12:37] <Ratan_> hello
[12:39] <Jeeves_Moss> gnome FTW
[12:44] <logikos> I asked in ##cups but so far no response so I thought I'd also ask here... i setup a HP printer on ubuntu server and I'm trying to figure out how to print to it, i'm using lp -d PRINTERNAME /path/to/somefile.pdf every time it says request id is PRINTERNAME-N (1 file(s))
[12:44] <logikos> sometimes a file prints and sometimes nothing happens at all
[12:44] <logikos> is there any way to see what is going on?
[12:51] <MMukherjee> !info libgeoip
[12:52] <MMukherjee> !info libgeoip-devf
[12:52] <MMukherjee> !info libgeoip-dev
[12:52] <MMukherjee> !info geoip
[12:52] <MMukherjee> !info geoip-dev
[12:52] <MMukherjee> !info geoip-database
[12:56] <Pici> !msgthebot | MMukherjee
[13:13] <dracnoc>  /quit
[13:16] <arcsky> i did just apt-get update and upgrade on my ubuntu machines and now i got OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014 ,its not the latest
[13:17] <k1l_> arcsky: what gives you "lsb_release -d"?
[13:20] <arcsky> Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[13:20] <sacarlson> arcsky: I can't upgrade my openssl eather, I guess it's due to that there are dependancies already installed that need that version
[13:21] <k1l_> arcsky: ok. can you pastebin a "apt-cache policy openssl"
[13:22] <arcsky> http://pastebin.com/Jr6xWbwq
[13:22] <sacarlson> what does the ! box in synaptic stand for in openssl as I can't upgrade I don't know what that symbol means as it's gray
[13:23] <k1l_> arcsky: ok, you are aware, that ubuntu doesnt increase the version number but builds the patchs into that?
[13:23] <k1l_> arcsky: see the changelog: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.7/changelog
[13:25] <k1l_> arcsky: so its the basis of version 1.0.1f but there are all security patches included (which makes it ubuntu version 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.7) until 15.10.2014
[13:25] <sacarlson> oh the symbol ! means Installed (upgradable)  but it won't let me upgrade it eather
[13:26] <k1l_> sacarlson: just run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in terminal to make sure you got all updates
[13:26] <arcsky> k1l_: thanks
[13:27] <sacarlson> k1| i don't want to upgrade 14.04 to 14.10.  I want lts
[13:28] <sacarlson> but I did apt-get update
[13:28] <k1l_> sacarlson: apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt make it to 14.10. see the explanaition form apt
[13:28] <k1l_> !dist-upgrade
[13:28] <k1l_> !apt-get
[13:28] <sacarlson> ok
[13:29] <k1l_> sacarlson: only apt-get update is not enogh. that will just make a new package list from the update server.please see the apt docs
[13:33] <sacarlson> k1| wow when I do apt-get dist-upgrade it shows a list of about 50 things it will download and install.  could take hours
[13:34] <whitebyte> What will be a good alternative for CXP webViewer for Ubuntu 14.04?
[13:34] <k1l_> sacarlson: that means you did not run proper updates some time now.
[13:34] <sacarlson> 387 mb
[13:34] <sacarlson> ya never liked updates,  to many things get broken but I'll give it a try this time
[13:35] <sacarlson> it's almost beer time so it will have time to upgrade while i'm gone
[13:36] <frew> hey guys, I started the upgrade to utopic via do-release-upgrade and I don't know how to get the console
[13:36] <frew> I thought it started a screen session but it doesn't look like it did
[13:37] <DickGates> frew:what console are you looking for
[13:40] <frew> DickGates: well, I can see that the utopic upgrade script is sitting there waiting for input, and I need to connect to it to (probably) press y
[13:41] <DickGates> frew:did you start the upgrade from the console?
[13:44] <frew> yes
[13:44] <frew> (ssh'd in)
[13:46] <Rudde> How do I find the real full path to the screen script?
[13:46] <Rudde> and any other binary program in linux?
[13:47] <DickGates> Rudde:which binary-name-here
[13:48] <DickGates> Rudde:eg which ls
[13:52] <david38400> my desktop isnt running well so I downloaded the program and want to install. I have used bios to boot first from DVD but it is ignorning and booting as usual. Does anyone know why?
[13:52] <david38400> Any help please?
[13:53] <cable> david38400 ???
[13:53] <cable> what is usuall?
[13:53] <cable> 1. is the cd / dvd bootable?
[13:53] <DickGates> david38400:do you mean you downloaded the ubuntu_14.10 iso?
[13:54] <david38400> DickGates, Yes I downloaded and burnt to DVD
[13:54] <david38400> cable, ??? what do you mean?
[13:55] <DickGates> david38400:what did you use to burn the iso file?
[13:55] <david38400> k3b
[13:55] <david38400> DickGates, K3b
[13:57] <Shunya> Hello
[13:57] <david38400> DickGates, Is k3b not the best to burn an iso???
[13:57] <Falc> I've installed IBM Notes on Ubuntu 14.10, it works fine. The executable is at '/opt/ibm/notes/notes'; if I execute it with that path, it runs. I've created a symlink in my home (/home/ldt/bin/notes).  However, if I call that symlink with just 'notes', nothing happens! (Yes, /home/ldt/bin is on my path)
[13:57] <riccardo> hi all
[13:58] <Shunya> There is a Key-binding ubuntu Alt+RightClick... I want to change... but couldn't find... is anyone have any idea about it
[13:58] <DickGates> david38400:It should work
[13:58] <riccardo> any chance to have team viewer working on last ubuntu?
[13:58] <david38400> DickGates, That's right, but I have set BIOS to boot first from DVD and it sin't doing it. I find in Ubuntu 14.04 lots of silly things happening laterly
[13:59] <DickGates> david38400: what kind of laptop do you have?
[14:00] <DickGates> david38400:is it uefi capable?
[14:00] <grayshade> why is taking a screenshot so slow? (30+ seconds, i965)
[14:00] <david38400> DickGates, I am using a desktop.   Dont understand what uefi capable means, sorry
[14:09] <carnau> I'm trying to install 14.10. How can I enable the LVM checkbox that appears in the disk partition menu?
[14:09] <carnau> I want to use my crypted LVM as home
[14:14] <zango> people?
[14:14] <zango> humans?
[14:14] <zango> anyone? -_-
[14:14] <motaka3> how can I share a prointer connected to ubuntu device
[14:14] <jack> ...
[14:14] <motaka3> ?
[14:14] <cfhowlett> zango, ask your ubuntu questions
[14:14] <motaka3> I dont see sharing options for printers
[14:15] <zango> technical questions
[14:19] <motaka3> 05:44:37 PM - motaka3: how can I share a prointer connected to ubuntu device
[14:19] <motaka3> 05:44:38 PM - motaka3: ?
[14:19] <jkbbwr> How do I symlink to a file, but when the file is called it is called from its original location
[14:19] <jkbbwr> if that makes sence
[14:19] <reisio> motaka3: synergy
[14:20] <motaka3> reisio: Whats that ?
[14:20] <reisio> jkbbwr: how doesn't an ordinary symlink suffice?
[14:20] <reisio> motaka3: your answer
[14:20] <motaka3> reisio: you mean sudo apt-get install synergy ?
[14:20] <jkbbwr> reisio: seems to screw up
[14:20] <reisio> motaka3: no, I see by your cross-post in #linux you meant printer, not pointer
[14:21] <reisio> jkbbwr: in what way?
[14:21] <reisio> details, man :p
[14:21] <motaka3> no I mean a printer
[14:21] <jkbbwr> reisio: the executable seems to load a relitive file
[14:21] <sacarlson> jkbbwr: you could write a script that would cd to the location and then run the desired file there
[14:21] <motaka3> reisio: So what should I do ?
[14:21] <reisio> jkbbwr: is there some reason I have to draw this information out of you like poison? :p
[14:22] <reisio> motaka3: pick a channel
[14:22] <jkbbwr> sacarlson: cheers
[14:22] <motaka3> what do you mean?
[14:22] <jkbbwr> reisio: I wasnt trying to hold stuff back
[14:22] <motaka3> I stopped in linux
[14:22] <motaka3> I am here now
[14:22] <sacarlson> jkbbwr: if the file itself is a scrypt you can still have it cd to the desired location at run time
[14:23] <jkbbwr> sacarlson: yea did that
[14:24] <reisio> motaka3: you want to share a printer?
[14:24] <motaka3> yes it is connected to ubuntu
[14:24] <motaka3> in tuts i find, i dont see the options they show
[14:24] <reisio> motaka3: https://www.google.com/search?q=help%20ubuntu%20share%20printer
[14:24] <reisio> motaka3: which tuts? Which options?
[14:25] <motaka3> reisio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/PrinterSharing
[14:25] <motaka3> i dont have System -> Administration -> Printing
[14:25] <reisio> motaka3: as you can see, the top of that page says it's out of date
[14:26] <motaka3> then tell me how to do that in 12.04
[14:26] <reisio> try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[14:26] <motaka3> reisio: I dont have System -> Administration -> Printing
[14:27] <reisio> motaka3: try https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CUPS_printer_sharing#Between_GNU.2FLinux_and_Windows
[14:27] <Mika_> what IRC room is good for my network question? Its not about only Ubuntu. Let say that i have "big" LAN and i have even one router divided my network in two smaller LANs (group A and B). My computer is in group A and with ARP i can see all the ip addresses in this group, but i can't see what is "behind" the router the group B ip's.
[14:28] <AlexPortable> So, which calendar app integrates with the systray in ubuntu?
[14:28] <motaka3> reisio: if such a simple task is so difficult I would connect it to windows
[14:28] <reisio> Mika_: /msg alis list *network*
[14:28] <motaka3> it is stupid
[14:28] <motaka3> I need to right click and say share this
[14:28] <motaka3> what are all these codes for ?
[14:28] <DJones> Mika_: I'd suggest ##networking
[14:28] <reisio> motaka3: well do what you like
[14:29] <motaka3> reisio: I am telling you I need to share a printer, you send me 10 pages of docx? funny
[14:30] <reisio> motaka3: next time I won't send you that, then :)
[14:30] <eviladmin> Mika_: you would have to bridge the networks to be able to see A from B and oposite
[14:30] <cfhowlett> Mika_, ##linux or #ubuntuserver
[14:30] <motaka3> reisio: good, tell me the solution if you know since I have seen all these before
[14:31] <reisio> motaka3: I'm afraid I've rather lost motivation, ask the channel, someone'll help you
[14:33] <sacarlson> in this dist-upgrade I'm now getting a message /etc/issue  modified by you.  do you want to keep or use mainainer version.   I don't recall changing this file so??
[14:33] <AlexPortable> Any way to have some 'mobile hotspot mode' in ubuntu? Which basically prevents it from checking updates, syncronising time and other stuff?
[14:34] <SonikkuAmerica> sacarlson: I'd [ sudo mv /etc/issue /etc/issue.old ] in a different terminal and then install the maintainer's version
[14:34] <sacarlson> oh crap this is going to upgrade my kernel too
[14:34] <SonikkuAmerica> sacarlson: (if you're that concerned)
[14:35] <Falc> Does anyone know why a symlink on my path works when I call it using the full path, but not when I call it using just the filename
[14:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Falc: What's your symlink and how do you point to it?
[14:36] <sacarlson> SonikkuAmerica: I did your suggestion
[14:37] <Falc> symlink: ln -s /opt/ibm/notes/notes /usr/bin/notes
[14:37] <sacarlson> wow now more of the same questions
[14:37] <Falc> I call /usr/bin/notes, it works
[14:37] <Falc> I cd to /usr/bin and then call notes, it works
[14:37] <SonikkuAmerica> sacarlson: My guess is that not much will change visibly... usually stuff in /etc/issue is version information
[14:37] <Falc> I'm in any other dir and call notes, nothing
[14:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Falc: You have to call the full path! /usr/bin/notes
[14:38] <sacarlson> SonikkuAmerica: ya I glanced at the contents, nothing important
[14:39] <Falc> Why? /usr/bin is on my path, there's a ton of symlinks there already that do work...
[14:39] <AlexPortable> Any way to have some 'mobile hotspot mode' in ubuntu? Which basically prevents it from checking updates, syncronising time and other stuff?
[14:39] <AlexPortable> So, which calendar app integrates with the systray in ubuntu?
[14:39] <moritzs> i've got a horrible rendering performance with XMonad after upgrading to 14.10 e.g. chrome stutters while scrolling. CPU governance is on performance, i've got an i7 4xxx. someone has an advice to track the issue?
[14:40] <sacarlson> even after the upgrade  I don't see the difference in the file, maybe they added a space or something
[14:44] <somsip> Falc: conflict with another executable earlier in $PATH or an alias that has the same name?
[14:45] <Falc> somsip: no, no conflict. Also, I don't even get a 'command not found' error, I just get nothing
[14:45] <sacarlson> moritzs: I saw some discusion of how something changed in one of the new kernel release that not all the cpu cores are being used with 4 available only 2 cores went to 100%. not sure that has anything to do with you thing
[14:47] <moritzs> sacarlson, hmm even 1 core should scroll without issues i think
[14:47] <somsip> Falc: output of 'whereis notes'?
[14:48] <Falc> notes: /usr/bin/notes
[14:48] <somsip> Falc: hmmm
[14:49] <Falc> I'm going to try adding /opt/ibm/notes to my $PATH
[14:50] <sacarlson> ok upgrade complete time to reboot.  if you fail to see min in 4 min then I advise against  disp-upgrade ha ha, see ya in a bit I hope
[14:50] <Falc> aha, that doesn't work either
[14:52] <Falc> so if that executable needs to be looked up on the path, it doesn't work... but it's a java thing and that might have something to do with it
[14:53] <somsip> Falc: instead of a symlink, create a batch file like "PWD=`pwd`; cd /opt/ibm/notes; ./notes; cd $PWD" It seems like it's expecting to find something in the CWD
[14:53] <rwlove_> test
[14:54] <Falc> somsip: I know I can make it work, I'd just really like to find out why the obvious way doesn't work :-)
[14:54] <somsip> Falc: ...it's expecting to find something in CWD perhaps...
[14:56] <jimmy51v_> I'm seeing this whenever I run an apt-get upgrade:  Errors were encountered while processing:   /var/cache/apt/archives/libpam-systemd_204-5ubuntu20.7_amd64.deb  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[14:58] <think> Good morning thinkers
[14:59] <sacarlson> ok after dist-upgrade it still boots but already see missing stuf in pigin nothing major
[15:02] <waressea1cher2> http://sprunge.us/LMgi those aew strange messages I got in dmesg, are they related to inability to read DVD disk or they are issues with DVD writer itself ?
[15:04] <sacarlson> waressea1cher2: sounds like the disk media in the drive has some bad sectors
[15:05] <sacarlson> waressea1cher2: if it happens on more than 1 or on all disks then maybe the drive lens needs cleaning or it's just getting old
[15:05] <unicorn_> Test
[15:06] <qstrahl> Hey uh ever since I upgraded to Utopic, diodon doesn't seem to ever grab my clipboard (and trying to access the clipboard from vim results in vim telling me there is no clipboard provider)
[15:06] <d1zzYLuLz> does anybody have issues w/ ubuntu and iptables? when i enter a rule and then do iptables -L, the rules are not there
[15:10] <AlexPortable> Using gnome-session-fallback, is it possible to merge the menu bar into the top bar?
[15:10] <AlexPortable> file, edit, view next to the close icons
[15:10] <NJ_sysadmin> Hello networking gurus. Very strange issue on Ubuntu 14.04. Intermittent connectivity loss from host a to host b. Host A can ping host b ok but periodic timeouts when connecting from ssh, telnet, etc. When this happens, traceroutes to the host are all asterix and also times out. Defualt route looks fine Single NIC config, eth0 is on e1000e with latest Inter drivers <IP_ADDRESS>. Any help would be
[15:10] <NJ_sysadmin> greatly appreciated.
[15:14] <unicorn__> Is there a list, mentioning all the software newly implemented into Ubuntu 14.10?
[15:15] <jParkton> view the repos
[15:15] <DJones> unicorn__: There is this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes Not sure if thats enough for you
[15:16] <jParkton> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/
[15:19] <AlexPortable> So, which calendar app integrates with the systray in ubuntu?
[15:19] <AlexPortable> Any way to have some 'mobile hotspot mode' in ubuntu? Which basically prevents it from checking updates, syncronising time and other stuff?
[15:19] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: I prefer google calender that integrates with my phone
[15:20] <AlexPortable> does google calendar requires internet?
[15:20] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: as well as integrates with all your google+ circle of people
[15:20] <AlexPortable> Well I don't always have internet on my machine
[15:20] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: on my phone it only requires internet to sync
[15:20] <unicorn__> DJones: I know this page, I mean every single newly introduced package, for example r-bioc-snpstats
[15:20] <jParkton> kinda dumb trying to run a OS with no internet connectivity
[15:20] <AlexPortable> yeah well I'm on a mobile connection on my lapto
[15:20] <cable> AlexPortable you don't have to have always internet
[15:21] <jParkton> unicorn__: probably not
[15:21] <AlexPortable> well i prefer an offline solution
[15:21] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: my phone is the real calender and time keeper.  the computer just makes it easy to update it and sync to all that need it
[15:21] <AlexPortable> I don't want to miss an appointment because there is no coverage
[15:22] <jParkton> maybe a better brain? My google cal only keeps track of events I put in there
[15:22] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: you won't if you update it from your phone as I said the phone doesn't need internet
[15:22] <AlexPortable> huh
[15:23] <AlexPortable> No I mean
[15:23] <AlexPortable> on desktop you can add it offline right?
[15:23] <cable> also on your phone
[15:23] <cable> and it will sync later on your desktop as well
[15:23] <cable> if you use google calender
[15:24] <cable> thats the power of sync.
[15:24] <jParkton> AlexPortable: there is NO calendar in the world you can add events OFFLINE and have it sync online
[15:24] <jParkton> thats just dumb
[15:25] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: aparently you can update and use google calender offline.  I've never tried it https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/1340696?hl=en
[15:25] <tgm4883> lol
[15:25] <cable> jParkton huh?
[15:25] <AlexPortable> jParkton: where exactly did I said sync online?
[15:25] <jParkton> and if this os for strictly offline access why even download a calendar? Just click the time in the sys tray and add an event to the already shipped calendar
[15:25] <sacarlson> jParkton: I beg to differ, you can update it offline until you sync when it is online
[15:26]  * tgm4883 reads backlog
[15:26] <jParkton> sacarlson: that makes zero sense
[15:26] <unicorn__> Or is there a list showing all packages being updated (x.y.z) since Ubuntu 14.04?
[15:26] <tgm4883> jParkton: no it really doesn't
[15:26] <jParkton> UPDATE denote some updating
[15:26] <sacarlson> jParkton: some people don't need to sync if they have only one device
[15:26] <jParkton> at least in English UPDATE means it is synching to something
[15:27] <AlexPortable> jParkton: how do I add an event?
[15:27] <tgm4883> jParkton: I can easily update the calendar on my phone without it being connected to the internet. The next time I connect to the internet, it syncs the calendar to the rest of my devices
[15:27] <jParkton> sacarlson: then why talk about google calendar / ubuntu ystem calendar for 15 minutes if all he needs is an offline notebook
[15:28] <jParkton> tgm4883: so the FUNCTION of the calendar is to keep events updated somehow?
[15:28] <jParkton> weird
[15:28] <jParkton> almost like that is exactly what a calendar does and is intended to do
[15:28] <sacarlson> jParkton: it's just another option, wether he wants to use notebook or.... why not have options as to what you use for a calender
[15:28] <amministratore> ciao
[15:28] <amministratore> !list
[15:29] <tgm4883> jParkton: don't be an arse, I was simply showing that you could update a calendar without internet access
[15:29] <bioman> Hello
[15:29] <jParkton> yes im an ass
[15:29] <jParkton> because you wanbt to be right and have the last word
[15:29] <jParkton> I see what you did thar
[15:29] <bioman> I'm an arch user but there nobody cares about compiz
[15:29] <bioman> I use compiz 0.9.12
[15:29] <bioman> well, let's say 0.9.x
[15:30] <tgm4883> jParkton: whatever helps you sleep at night
[15:30] <AlexPortable> any way I can merge an gnome indicator applet next to the close and minimize icons?
[15:30] <jParkton>  /ignore helps me
[15:30] <jParkton> and poof you're gone
[15:30] <jParkton> AlexPortable: gnome indicator?
[15:30] <AlexPortable> jParkton: so how do I add something to the built-in calendar? (if there is any)
[15:31] <AlexPortable> yes
[15:31]  * tgm4883 cries because jParkton can't hear me anymore
[15:31] <bioman> I have a big problem when I set the cube to be a cylender : I have only the top and the bottom that are circles, the rest is still a cube. Any ideas please ?
[15:31] <jParkton> AlexPortable: in Kubuntu click the time current, click date, add event in Kontact
[15:31] <AlexPortable> if you install 'indicator-applet-appmenu', it will put the file, edit, and so on menu in the top menu bar
[15:31] <sacarlson> tgm4883: there can be but one calender in the world and that's final.... ha ha just kiding
[15:31] <jParkton> idk in Ubuntu might not be that cool yet
[15:31] <AlexPortable> well i use ubuntu with gnome fallback
[15:31] <AlexPortable> not working
[15:31] <jParkton> sacarlson: lol
[15:32] <tgm4883> sacarlson: of course, and you can only use calendars when you have internet access. There is no other way!
[15:32] <jParkton> bioman: because um that is a cylinder
[15:32] <sacarlson> tgm4883: ya imposible ha ha
[15:34] <bioman> jkerning: I beg your pardon ? I don't see what you mean :/
[15:34] <abi_> exit
[15:35] <tgm4883> bioman: we don't support arch here
[15:35] <tgm4883> bioman: have you tried #compiz
[15:36] <bioman> tgm4883: I don't ask for arch support, but for compiz support
[15:36] <bioman> tgm4883: they are all dead
[15:36] <tgm4883> bioman: yea, but on the arch platform. We don't know what the arch people did to compiz, if they added any patches, etc, so it's pretty difficult for us to support it on their platform
[15:37] <bioman> tgm4883: I have compiled an arch package : compiz-ubuntu
[15:37] <bioman> tgm4883: we use ubuntu sources
[15:38] <tgm4883> bioman: and the rest of the graphics stack?
[15:39] <tgm4883> bioman: if there is nobody helping you in either the arch or compiz IRC channels, your next stop should be either their forums and/or mailing lists, not the ubuntu support channel
[15:39] <bioman> tgm4883: Nvidia GT555M (the same issue with GTX680), driver 343.22 (but same issue with other versions)
[15:39] <bioman> tgm4883: sorry
[15:40] <tgm4883> bioman: my question was actually regarding if you build the entire stack, not what it is
[15:41] <NJ_sysadmin> Any Ubuntu networking gurus Very strange issue on Ubuntu 14.04. Intermittent connectivity loss from host a to host b. Host A can ping host b ok but periodic timeouts when connecting from ssh, telnet, etc. When this happens, traceroutes to the host are all asterix and also times out. Default route looks fine Single NIC config, eth0 is on e1000e with latest Intel drivers <IP_ADDRESS>. Any help would
[15:41] <NJ_sysadmin> be greatly appreciated.
[15:41] <bioman> tgm4883: I'm sorry, I feel like I bother you
[15:41] <bioman> tgm4883: gonna ask in #compiz. thanks
[15:42] <ObrienDave> everybody bothers tgm4883 ;P
[15:42] <compdoc> NJ_sysadmin, is it wireless
[15:42] <gansteed> how can I read the docs installed by using `sudo apt-get install python3-docs`?
[15:42] <Pici> tgm4883: well handled :)
[15:43] <waressea1cher2> sacarlson: I burned 3 different live dvd disks and booted them and in all of them similar error
[15:43] <NJ_sysadmin> compdoc: No it's wired
[15:43] <tgm4883> Pici: thanks
[15:43] <AlexPortable> any way how I can merge the menu bar into the title bar?
[15:43] <compdoc> NJ_sysadmin, are the two machines on the same lan?
[15:44] <waressea1cher2> sacarlson: its just I bought that dvd drive 3.5 years ago and used it for about month and then it was laying around for more than 3 years without anyone touching it
[15:44] <NJ_sysadmin> compdoc: yes same subnet.
[15:44] <drmagoo> NJ_sysadmin: static or dhcp assigned addresses ?
[15:45] <compdoc> NJ_sysadmin, do you use dhcp, or network manager, or do you assign addresses by hand?
[15:45] <squinty> waressea1cher2:  higher burn speeds can introduce burn errors.  suggest you try burning at a lower speed such as 4X
[15:45] <sacarlson> waressea1cher2: with time comes dirt on lens, but a few sector error may be ok
[15:51] <waressea1cher2> I connected phone with android 4.2.2 and set it as "Camera (PTP)" device, then run programm "Cheese" it supposed to work with webcameras, but it doesn't see my phone as camera, what is the right way to use android phone as webcamera ?
[15:53] <AlexPortable> waressea1cher2: camera (ptp) is to let the OS see the device you attached as a digital camera
[15:53] <AlexPortable> which means it will open shotwell or similar
[15:53] <AlexPortable> because when you attach a camera, you are likely to want to import / move pictures you made to your pc
[15:56] <tgm4883> waressea1cher2: AlexPortable is correct. Probably the only way you are going to get that to work is to get an android app that exposes the camera as a webcam. You can then connect to the phone over the network. I'm unaware of an app that lets you plug the phone into the computer and use it as a webcam directly
[15:56] <pr0m3t30> hi
[15:57] <NJ_sysadmin> Only one NIC enabled and static IP on eth0 set in /etc/network/interfaces We're not using network manager
[15:58] <AlexPortable> How can I let my system shutdown?
[15:58] <AlexPortable> it hangs at [kvm] disabling hardware virtualisation
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: if you run:  sudo shutdown -h now      does it turn off ok?
[15:59] <AlexPortable> no
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: its a single line, so no need to pastebin
[16:01] <AlexPortable> it shows errors now
[16:01] <AlexPortable> from shutting down
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: hard power off the system then, is all I cansuggest
[16:02] <tgm4883> what errors?
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: does it happen to all guest OSes? in all architectures?
[16:04] <ybon> Anyone know how to ungroup app windows on the windows switcher? I don't find the tweak anymore on Compiz/Ubuntu/Unity tweaks since on Utopic
[16:05] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: which guest os? you mean virtualbox?
[16:05] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: also hard power off is what I do every evening, but i don't think this is good for the hdd
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: no, the guest OS is Ubuntu or Windows or Fedora etc etc etc
[16:05] <AlexPortable> I only run 1 os
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: is it 64bit?
[16:06] <jParkton> then why the kvm?
[16:06] <AlexPortable> jParkton: i dont have kvm installed on my system. only virtualbox
[16:06] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: yes
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: ahhh, i see
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: have you asked in #vbox ?
[16:06] <AlexPortable> Why would shutting down a system has to do anything with vbox?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: because the system is running in virtualbox, no?
[16:07] <AlexPortable> yes
[16:07] <AlexPortable> but why not firefox?
[16:07] <AlexPortable> wait
[16:07] <AlexPortable> the system isn't running in virtualbox
[16:07] <jParkton> [09:58] <AlexPortable> it hangs at [kvm] disabling hardware virtualisation
[16:07] <AlexPortable> i have virtualbox installed on the system
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: then the hardware is being presented to the virtualsystem using virtualbox, causing the guest to have issues?
[16:07] <AlexPortable> i dont think vbox uses kvm
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: or is it the host having issues?
[16:07] <AlexPortable> host
[16:08] <jParkton> I thought kvm was a kubuntu package
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: OK, What OS is the host?
[16:08] <AlexPortable> ubuntu 14.04
[16:08] <jParkton> guess no its fro the kernel not the kubuntu lol
[16:08] <hulio> how come i can't install teamviewer in ubuntu ?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: ok, I'd ask in #vbox it sounds like something in vbox is not shuting down gracefully
[16:09] <hulio> i can't seem to get it installed ata ll
[16:09] <hulio> i keep saying that it missing a lib
[16:09] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: well i haven't turned on virtualbox today
[16:09] <tgm4883> hulio: what lib?
[16:09] <AlexPortable> when using shutdown -h 0 i get errors, and when i press enter I get a new error line
[16:09] <AlexPortable> http://img.nl.eu.org/2Ihlxd.png
[16:09] <tgm4883> or rather
[16:09] <tgm4883> !details | hulio
[16:09] <AlexPortable> http://img.nl.eu.org/GlWtvS.png
[16:10] <AlexPortable> http://img.nl.eu.org/m5jCOB.png
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: does the system have a make and model?
[16:10] <AlexPortable> http://img.nl.eu.org/Em0Gnw.png
[16:10] <jParkton> hulio: after it fails to install run 'sudo apt-get install -f' in terminal
[16:10] <White_Cat> hi
[16:10] <jParkton> that should get you where you need
[16:10] <NJ_sysadmin> compdoc: Only one NIC enabled and static IP on eth0 set in /etc/network/interfaces We're not using network manager
[16:10] <White_Cat> I just created a user using "sudo useradd -d /home/odoo -m odoo_user"
[16:11] <AlexPortable> http://img.nl.eu.org/XPnrsY.png
[16:11] <White_Cat> when I login with this user I cannot access /home/odoo
[16:11] <jParkton> White_Cat: 'ls -la /home/odoo'
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: does the system have a make and model?
[16:12] <tgm4883> White_Cat: 'ls -la /home'
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: what user did you log in with?
[16:12] <compdoc> NJ_sysadmin, can you pastebin /etc/network/interfaces?  If everything else is working normally, then either youre using an ip address already in use, or have a bad nic, cable, or port on the switch
[16:12] <hulio> jParkton, got it
[16:12] <jParkton> ;)
[16:13] <tgm4883> White_Cat: also, that command appears to be missing the username
[16:13] <AlexPortable> http://img.nl.eu.org/sRZFpm.png
[16:13] <AlexPortable>  ActionParsnip: acer aspire 9300
[16:13] <hulio> jParkton, how to remove a teamviewer after install?
[16:13] <hulio> jParkton, i want to install x64 bit version of it
[16:13] <jParkton> hulio: the same way you installed it
[16:13] <AlexPortable> http://img.nl.eu.org/dKiL9w.png
[16:13] <hulio> jParkton, what?
[16:13] <hulio> i want to remove teamviewer
[16:13] <hulio> what is the command?
[16:13] <AlexPortable> hulio: how did you install it?
[16:14] <jParkton> how did you install it?
[16:14] <hulio> i do :  sudo dpkg -i teamviewer....deb
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/537385
[16:14] <tgm4883> nm
[16:14] <jParkton> terminal, software center, build from source etc etc
[16:14] <jParkton> oh
[16:14] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: how to solve?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: not sure, read the bug......
[16:14] <jParkton> hulio: sudo dpkg --remove package
[16:14] <hulio> jParkton, so a do:  sudo dpkg -u ?
[16:14] <tgm4883> hulio: you would just "sudo apt-get remove teamviewer" to uninstall it
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: thats why I posted the link......
[16:15] <hulio> ok i'll trive
[16:15] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: bug says incomplete > expired
[16:15] <tgm4883> provided that teamviewer is the name of the package
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: do you have the latest BIOS?
[16:15] <hulio> cool thanks. it works
[16:15] <jParkton> np
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: may help too http://www.ahfx.net/weblog/160
[16:17] <White_Cat> ls -la /home/odoo -> drwxr-xr-x 3 odoo_user odoo_user 4096 Oct 27 17:16 .
[16:18] <hulio> jParkton, i love nero 4 for linux
[16:18] <hulio> jParkton, very native software
[16:18] <White_Cat> ls -la /home -> drwxr-xr-x  3 root      root      4096 Oct 27 17:13 .
[16:18] <White_Cat> ActionParsnip I used the commands with root
[16:18] <White_Cat> I attempted to access the folder using the created username
[16:19] <White_Cat> which cannot get there
[16:20] <jParkton> hulio: I dont see how that applies to anything but good to hear
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: then you will need to chown the folder back to its rightful owner
[16:20] <jParkton> White_Cat: also wrong command
[16:20] <White_Cat> I am unsure how to do that
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: if you avoid using root so very freely you will have significantly fewer issues
[16:20] <White_Cat> I am not using it freely
[16:20] <Skutov> Does anyone here know of a serial terminal client that will show the hex and the characters for recieved data at the same time?
[16:20] <White_Cat> it is what I start with
[16:20] <White_Cat> this is why i am creating a new account
[16:20] <White_Cat> so as not to use root
[16:21] <jParkton> White_Cat: you need to ls -la the /home/odoo or whatever that user was
[16:21] <jParkton> not /home
[16:21] <NJ_sysadmin> compdoc: Sorry didn't pastebin.
[16:21] <jParkton> that is roots and NO DO NOT CHOWN that
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: sudo chown -R odoo_user:odoo_user /home/odoo         let the command run, you will see a warning but this is fine.
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> d
[16:21] <jParkton> I am obviously being ignored so I will stop
[16:21] <White_Cat> I imagine I run that under root?
[16:21] <White_Cat> jParkton I am not ignoring you
[16:22] <cuppy> White_Cat, no root. just sudo
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: or any user with sudo access, yes
[16:22] <White_Cat> yes thats what i mean
[16:22] <White_Cat> odoo_user doesn't need to have sudo access
[16:23] <op_test221> i need to start dnscrypt-proxy at boot time, does anybody know what is the best way.. this is the command i need to run: dnscrypt-proxy --daemonize --user=dnscrypt
[16:23] <White_Cat> but I want to create a second username that has sudo access, someone not root
[16:23] <White_Cat> how can I do that?
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: add the user to the sudo group, job done
[16:24] <cuppy> White_Cat, you can even do that using the System Prefs GUI
[16:24] <sacarlson> Skutov: nope but long ago I wrote one back in like 1998 long since lost only needed one time.
[16:25] <Skutov> sacarlson, dammit... guess I'll have to do the same thing then...
[16:26] <sacarlson> Skutov: there are hex editors that will display hex files so if you can get the term data saved you can display it later
[16:26] <op_test221> i am thinking of adding it to /etc/rc.local, but i am afraid of editing that file that may get rewritten next time i update ubunut
[16:27] <sacarlson> Skutov: does it have to be displayed in realtime?
[16:27] <hulio> jParkton, any good app for linux you have know or like ?
[16:27] <Skutov> sacarlson, Ideally, otherwise I'd be having to reload files a lot.
[16:27] <cuppy> I'm kinda surprised that I can't upgrade from 12.04 because my GPU is "old"
[16:28] <sacarlson> Skutov: maybe edit a version of tail then to display it while it come out
[16:28] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: no. i downgraded to driver 173, problem is stil lthere
[16:28] <waressea1cher2> AlexPortable: right, its just I have regular phone motorola and when I plug it over USB it gives me options "charge" or "webcam" or "storage" so I mistakenly assumed at first I could do the same with android phone
[16:28] <AlexPortable> waressea1cher2: well you can with an app
[16:28] <jParkton> hulio: the only thing I really install after I install the OS is brackets after that im all set
[16:29] <sacarlson> Skutov: but be nice to have a colum to the right that has the output in hex and the term ascii on the left would be better so modify some term
[16:29] <White_Cat> cuppy I lack gui
[16:29] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: do i really have to update my bios?
[16:30] <Skutov> I might have found one, just need to work out how to run it.
[16:30] <Skutov> sacarlson, http://www.rolf-schroedter.de/moni/#download
[16:31] <acerspyroThe2nd> Last night, I updated from 14.04 to 14.10 and the video drivers failed (using the proprietary fglrx drivers). I figured to install them back, but now everything that tries to use openGL returns an X protocol error.
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: did you try the boot option in the last link I gave?
[16:31] <acerspyroThe2nd> Did I forget anything?
[16:32] <sacarlson> Skutov: ya that's perfect, assuming you want to use it for serial monitor
[16:32] <Skutov> sacarlson, Will be fine, just need to work out how to install/run it.
[16:32] <sacarlson> Skutov: that's just what I needed back in 1998
[16:33] <sacarlson> Skutov: looks way nicer than what I made
[16:33] <acerspyro> Thar :D
[16:35] <waressea1cher2> I have two sound cards: "HDA Intel" and "Yamaha DS-1" I want that yamaha to be default, where to set it as default ?
[16:36] <waressea1cher2> with alsactl ?
[16:36] <jParkton> try alsamixer
[16:37] <zz_adgtl> guys iptables -L shows this https://gist.github.com/anildigital/1f8c3466273595108be4  I am able to curl localhost:80  but not able to access port 80 from external ip
[16:37] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: system won't turn on now
[16:38] <jParkton> ru roh
[16:38] <acerspyro> > i p tables
[16:38] <tgm4883> waressea1cher2: I would try pavucontrol
[16:38] <acerspyro> That's gotta hurt.
[16:38] <waressea1cher2> jParkton: with alsamixer I can set volume
[16:38] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: didnt try it yet. Alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/disknumber here does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: run an fsck on your drive in liveCD, also may want to test RAM using Memtest
[16:40] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: one bad sector
[16:40] <genii> Hopefully it's not in the MBR
[16:40] <acerspyro> I can't install packages using the HTTP port, can I?
[16:41] <jParkton> lolwut
[16:41] <jParkton> waressea1cher2: your nick is asinine your help stops here
[16:41] <jParkton> zzz_Ridley: what is the IP?
[16:41] <tgm4883> waressea1cher2: is this regular ubuntu?
[16:43] <AlexPortable> Kvm: exiting hardware virtualidation. Synchronidin scsi cache. Stopping disks
[16:44] <Putti> Hi, after installing 14.10 on my samsung np535u3c laptop it doesn't  anymore turn the display on after grub boot (it works only sometimes). Here is my boot.log: http://paste2.org/Jn7mfJY8 . I haven't tried yet installing proprietary amd graphics driver, because then for example I cannot adjust brightness.
[16:44] <waressea1cher2> jParkton: what is asinine ?
[16:44] <waressea1cher2> tgm4883: typical ubuntu
[16:45] <tgm4883> waressea1cher2: does this help?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/398030/change-default-sound-device
[16:46] <Leonidasxxx> hi to join other canal, what command is?
[16:46] <reisio> Leonidasxxx: /join #otherchannel
[16:46] <acerspyro> Leonidasxxx: french?
[16:46] <nusr> anyone know when ubuntu phone is coming out?
[16:46] <shibboleth> https://pidgin.im/news/security/ <--- Who is the package maintainer for Pidgin?
[16:46] <popey> nusr: soon
[16:46] <Leonidasxxx> no spanish
[16:47] <shibboleth> https://www.debian.org/security/2014/dsa-3055 <--- Debian fixed this days ago
[16:47] <nusr> popey: can't wait.
[16:47] <Leonidasxxx> not have any help up of the chat
[16:47] <popey> nusr: ☻
[16:47] <tgm4883> shibboleth: that would appear to be "ubuntu developers"
[16:47] <shibboleth> tgm4883: so canonical?
[16:47] <tgm4883> shibboleth: no
[16:47] <tgm4883> shibboleth: well, maybe
[16:47] <tgm4883> sec
[16:47] <brainwash> shibboleth: please file a report on launchpad
[16:48] <brainwash> and link all the needed information
[16:48] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: nope your link didnt work. How can i fix it
[16:48] <tgm4883> shibboleth: yea, what brainwash said
[16:49] <shibboleth> Do I need a valid mail address to file the report?
[16:49] <richard_> quit
[16:49] <nusr> popey: if it came down to you...would you choose ubuntu phone or firefoxOS phone
[16:49] <popey> nusr: i work on ubuntu phone... so...
[16:49] <popey> nusr: but I own a firefox phone too..
[16:49] <nusr> popey: cool
[16:49] <tgm4883> popey: so windows phone then?
[16:49] <acerspyro> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2249841
[16:49] <acerspyro> Followed these instructions, didn't help much.
[16:49] <brainwash> shibboleth: you need a launchpad account and some email address to create one
[16:50] <shibboleth> I do not use email
[16:50] <acerspyro> No more Unity desktop, tried to start LXDE and typed glxinfo and it gave me an X protocol error.
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: fix what?
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> shibboleth: really?
[16:50] <Leonidasxxx> a question... i have a flash usb with any format? I can format? or other similar?
[16:50] <acerspyro> Leonidasxxx: any format
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Leonidasxxx: yes, gparted can remove the partiion(s) and format it as you desire
[16:51] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: my computer
[16:51] <Leonidasxxx> yes 0 bytes have
[16:51] <Leonidasxxx> but i start gparted
[16:51] <shibboleth> If the USPS all of a sudden came out with a new rule that said that you may not seal your envelopes; would you still use their service?
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: is it booting ok now?
[16:51] <Leonidasxxx> and not see my usb...
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Leonidasxxx: does gparted show it ?
[16:51] <Leonidasxxx> no
[16:52] <acerspyro> Hm
[16:52] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: yes but not shutting down
[16:52] <Leonidasxxx> but it is i asked i need some "help"
[16:52] <BluesKaj> waressea1cher2, install pavutcontrol, it has the audio output option settings you need
[16:52] <acerspyro> The "Details" panel shows "Graphics  VESA: PARK"
[16:52] <BluesKaj> waressea1cher2, correction pavucontrol
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: id try the bios update, may help
[16:53] <Leonidasxxx> if i may format this pen i celebrate this moment
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Leonidasxxx: if you run:  sudo fdisk -l     do you see the device?
[16:53] <acerspyro> *tries to format pencil*
[16:53] <Leonidasxxx> i try it
[16:53] <Leonidasxxx> now i tell
[16:53] <shibboleth> Anyone want to file the bug report to launchpad using the two links I provided?
[16:53] <OerHeks> shibboleth, i filed a bugreport, maybe you can confirm this, so it speeds up? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/1386311
[16:54] <acerspyro> :/ my questions went underground.
[16:54] <shibboleth> OerHeks: page not found
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: did it work ok in Trusty?
[16:55] <acerspyro> ActionParsnip: 14.04?
[16:55] <Leonidasxxx> no
[16:55] <acerspyro> Yep
[16:55] <OerHeks> hmm i selected security , maybe that is why you cannot see it
[16:55] <Leonidasxxx> i dont see
[16:55] <acerspyro> Installed the ATI bundle from their website
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: any issues at all?
[16:55] <acerspyro> ActionParsnip: Not previously
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: in trusty
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: then why did you fix your system if it wasnt broken?
[16:56] <acerspyro> ActionParsnip: Updated
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: but why?
[16:56] <acerspyro> I want bleeding-edge stuff
[16:56] <acerspyro> Not interested in stability.
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: why? If the system was without issue. What were you going to gain?
[16:56] <acerspyro> ActionParsnip: Newer packages, newer kernel
[16:57] <acerspyro> No need to add tons of PPAs to get the latest packages.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: but the system was running ok. What would the new kernel give you ?
[16:57] <acerspyro> ActionParsnip: idc about the kernel
[16:57] <acerspyro> But I consider Blender 2.6 to be outdated
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: does blender 2.6 do what you need to do with blender?
[16:57] <acerspyro> No
[16:58] <acerspyro> No walk cam, I can't live without walk cam :P
[16:58] <acerspyro> And GCC is outdated
[16:58] <shibboleth> walk cam?
[16:58] <acerspyro> There is a huge difference between GCC 4.8 and GCC 4.9
[16:58] <acerspyro> shibboleth: Shift + F in Blender 2.7
[16:59] <tgm4883> acerspyro: FWIW, there is a PPA for blender
[16:59] <acerspyro> tgm4883: I want it in the repos
[16:59] <OerHeks> !info gcc
[16:59] <OerHeks> grinn
[16:59] <tgm4883> acerspyro: then you don't understand repos and/or PPAs
[16:59] <acerspyro> tgm4883: I don't want to have to use a PPA to update a package.
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: Id suggest a clean install, fewer issues
[17:00] <acerspyro> Hrm
[17:00] <tgm4883> acerspyro: I might have missed something then, how did you get a newer build of blender?
[17:00] <acerspyro> tgm4883: Arch linux
[17:00] <tgm4883> acerspyro: oh
[17:00] <OerHeks> !info blender
[17:00] <tgm4883> acerspyro: then why are you looking for support here?
[17:01]  * OerHeks facepalms
[17:01] <acerspyro> tgm4883: Because I want help updating Ubuntu
[17:01] <Pici> Ubuntu is not a rolling release.
[17:01] <acerspyro> I used to use Arch, but it is far from automatic and requires me to constantly manage it in order to keep it running.
[17:01] <acerspyro> Pici: It isn't, all I want is 14.10
[17:01] <reisio> acerspyro: no it doesn't
[17:02] <reisio> nobody forces you to update at any particular moment in time
[17:02] <irth> "but it is far from automatic"
[17:02] <acerspyro> .-.
[17:02] <rba1988> test
[17:02] <irth> actually that belongs to arch's pros
[17:02] <EriC^^> just add pacman -Syu as a cronjob and call it a lifetime
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> !test | rba1988
[17:03] <acerspyro> EriC^^: Not that kind of managing
[17:03] <acerspyro> I want to change a little setting? need to figure it out, I am not constantly online.
[17:03] <irth> (pros and cons. "pros" "cons" are shortcuts, right? or how you call it. what are "full version" of those words?)
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: I'd do a clean install of Utopic if you want to use it. If you want a rock solid OS that works with 5 years support instead of 9 months, then use Trusty
[17:04] <acerspyro> ActionParsnip: So I need to clean my hard drive and re-install every 6 months?
[17:04] <rba1988> exit
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: no, thats the point
[17:05] <ironman> bbddevs
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: you can use the LTS and not have to upgrade for 5 years
[17:05] <acerspyro> ?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: I'm still on Precise, it's supported til April 2017 which is even past when Utopic is dead
[17:05] <acerspyro> And stay with 5 years old packages?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: you dont have to upgrade, you are looking at the version numbers too much instead of what the OS actually does for you
[17:05] <elsieboy> hi all! just a quick question. I want to put some commands that execute every time I log in in a file. I know that this goes in a script in my home directory. But I'm just confused about which one? .bash_profile, .bashrc, etc .... what's the difference?
[17:06] <acerspyro> So trusty will eventually update to Blender 2.7?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: again, it doesnt matter. If there are significant reasons to upgrade a package then the updates will happen. The LTS versions are still reviewed and updates do happen
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: it may do so if there are issues people are having which are resolved in the new version
[17:06] <OerHeks> acerspyro, yes, 2.7.0a
[17:06] <OerHeks> !info blender
[17:07] <OerHeks> !info blender trusty
[17:07] <alonz> hey i have got a problem, - [Mon Oct 27 17:56:54.632490 2014] [:error] [pid 8501] [client <IP_ADDRESS>:50308] PHP Warning:  file_exists() expects parameter 1 to be a valid path, string given in /var/www/html/index.php on line 3308, referer: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/?step=2&language=pl
[17:07] <alonz> at older version i didn't had anything like this
[17:08] <alonz> what to do to configure good this server, it cant to extract tar.gz by using html interface
[17:08] <pgnome> hello, I am currently using 14.04, I believe.... was wondering if I should upgrade to 14.10?
[17:08] <alonz> at older version of ubuntu everything works well
[17:09] <yossarianuk> hi -my desktop has a nvidia card and ingratiated intel (Ivybridge) GPU can I have a separate xserver on both GPU's at the same time ?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> pgnome: sudo do-release-upgrade      note that 14.10 is only supported 9 months, 14.04 is LTS and supported til April 2019
[17:09] <pgnome> how to do it?   apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> pgnome: i gave the command,.......
[17:10] <pgnome> ActionParsnip,  really?
[17:10] <yossarianuk> if it makes a difference I use the binary nvidia driver (nvidia-prime)
[17:10] <pgnome> okay
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> pgnome: yes really
[17:11] <pgnome> I have a nvidia card, though.... which do I do first?
[17:11] <pgnome> release upgrade?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> [17:08] <ActionParsnip> pgnome: sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:11] <pgnome> does anyone have a nvidia card here?   the newest drivers are 340 and 343
[17:11] <pgnome> -binary
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-current
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-current trusty
[17:12] <yossarianuk> ubuntu doesn;t have the latest stable nvidia driver by default (my biggest peeve with ubunt..)
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> pgnome: mine are on 304
[17:13] <yossarianuk> either use a PPA (and risk also upgrading xorg/breaking your system) or install manually from nvidia.com (that is what I do.)
[17:13] <pgnome> yossarianuk,  I often use nvidia.com, too
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> I use the open driver more these days, works well
[17:15] <yossarianuk> pgnome: would be much easier if nvidia-latest package was always the latest...
[17:15] <yossarianuk> ActionParsnip: not for gaming.
[17:15] <OerHeks> nvidia 331 is also availabe in restricted drivers
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: I dont game. I think its a waste of time
[17:16] <Car-Seller> http://www.desura.com/games/dragonfly-racer Buy this game for only £1.99
[17:17] <yossarianuk> ActionParsnip: that really involves anything that actually fully uses you're GPU - the nouveau reduces openGL speed by about 70/80%
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: also none of my systems game very well
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: nouveau runs flash just dandy.
[17:18] <srj55> I have VM workstation on a windows laptop with 2 Windows server VMs and a ubuntu server vm.  How can I make the hostname in the ubuntu server visible to the other VMs and my laptop?  I set /etc/hosts  --> <IP_ADDRESS> proxy   and also set hostname to proxy.  I also went into /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf and set -> send host-name "proxy";.  what am i doing wrong?
[17:18] <yossarianuk> I do understand the benefits of using free drivers...
[17:18] <Lunario> when I try to send a mail in ubuntu with "mail -s "subject me@xx, why is the mail not sent? the program just does nothing
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: who said you didnt...?
[17:18] <yossarianuk> but seems silly to spend money on a card then underclock it by 80% by not using the binary driver...
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: because I dont need to do anything once my OS is installed to get a decent desktop experience
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: so why bother
[17:19] <pgnome> yossarianuk, do you recommend 343?
[17:19] <yossarianuk> ActionParsnip: also only binary one has opengl 4.x support...
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: I dont use opengl though
[17:19] <rba1988> quit
[17:19] <yossarianuk> ActionParsnip: what I mean is using the free driver does unclock your card (for any gl task) by about 80%
[17:19] <pgnome> is short-lived branch ver.
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: I dont use opengl
[17:20] <pgnome> is the free driver good for newer cards now?
[17:20] <pgnome> I have a maxwell card
[17:20] <yossarianuk> pgnome: i am using 343.22
[17:20] <pgnome> the oss driver wasn't too good for maxwell when I got my card
[17:20] <nusr> i just edited my /etc/apt/sources.list and when i tried to update i get this message:Malformed line 59 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist) E: The list of sources could not be read.
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> nusr: can you pastebin your file please
[17:20] <pgnome> yossarianuk, any issues?
[17:20] <ApplesInArrays> Just set up a VPS and I'm not having any luck getting mod-rewrite to work. Any help? Here are the steps I took and the error: http://paste.ee/p/fLd2L
[17:20] <yossarianuk> ActionParsnip: you do if you have desktop effects enabled.
[17:21] <pgnome> yossarianuk, my card is a gtx 750
[17:21] <yossarianuk> pgnome: none I have found
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: I use Openbox, no effects. I dont even run a DE
[17:21] <pgnome> yossarianuk, sounds good
[17:21] <yossarianuk> ActionParsnip: ok in your case you do not.
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: I know, thats why I use the open driver
[17:21] <pgnome> <use gnome - obviously? :)
[17:22] <yossarianuk> ActionParsnip: but for someone who has paid money on a card really they need to use the binary to make use of it - otherwise you may as well have gone with intel
[17:23] <pgnome> yossarianuk, what ver. of release do you use?
[17:23] <pgnome> I wonder if I should upgrade 14.04 to 14.10
[17:23] <pgnome> most packages are at 14.04
[17:23] <yossarianuk> << 14.10 for home
[17:23] <LurgidBee> Hello, I'm looking to autolink my cs50.h library so that I don't have to manually link it every time I compile. For example I have to do "gcc hello.c -lcs50 -o hello" instead of just "make".  I have already followed the instructions at https://manual.cs50.net/library/#installation and I can't seem to get it to auto link the library. I'm trying to avoid using the cs50 appliance.
[17:23] <sacarlson> srj55: I don't fully understand your setup but can't you just have all the vm set to bridge network mode, have them all get ip from the same dhcp server?  then they should all talk to each other.  if you want to add names then that's another step maybe with bind9
[17:23] <pgnome> although firefox is at 33.0
[17:23] <yossarianuk> << 14.04 for work
[17:23] <compdoc> 14.10 wont be around very long
[17:24] <yossarianuk> no but one of the reason ubuntu+debian are great is usually upgrading to next version is easy and fairly trouble free
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> pgnome: if 14.04 is working ok, stick with it
[17:24] <pgnome> I like to be at the latest , not necessarily bleeding edge...sometimes, some packages need a certain ver. of gcc?
[17:24] <yossarianuk> there isn't much difference between 14.04->14.10 (same for kubuntu also)
[17:24] <pgnome> for e.g.
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: go check the freenode answers section. Lots of users upgrading and having issues
[17:24] <pgnome> ok
[17:25] <pgnome> so, I'll just upgrade nvidia driver for now?
[17:25] <pgnome> i can upgrade release later?
[17:25] <yossarianuk> ActionParsnip: ok usually it is fine - and the track record is better than most other distros..
[17:25] <sacarlson> LurgidBee: maybe just write your own script to compile and link it then
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: I always clean install. When 16.04 is out, new HDD and a clean install
[17:26] <srj55> sacarlson:  the vm's all use NAT to share host's IP address.  I'm not sure if the problem is with the VM config, or just the way my ubuntu box is setup.  the windows machines all work:  I can connect using the hostname to web servers running on those VMs, so I'm lead to believe the isssue is with ubuntu hostname not being "propogated" to the other machines?
[17:27] <nusr> ActionPArsnip: thanks but I found the error. it was missing the tail end of a deb. however, now update is saying could not resolve http. it is just one of t he mirrors for R
[17:27] <yossarianuk> ive upgraded kubuntu 14.04 -> 14.10 - took about 30 mins - no issues whatsoever - i didn't have any extra repos(PPA's) added though
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> nusr: can you pastebin the sources.list file please
[17:29] <sacarlson> srj55: oh ok so everybody can ping everybody?   so you just want hostnames that all share?  does it have to be seen on wan or just local net?
[17:29] <yossarianuk> I run arch also so am used to constant upgrades ....
[17:29] <nusr> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/9X3pXceb
[17:29] <yossarianuk> anyway i'm off home - c ya.
[17:30] <nusr> ActionParsnip: ahh i see why... extra http
[17:30] <nusr> doh sorry
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> nusr: change:    deb http://http://cran.stat.nus.edu.sg/bin/linux/ubuntu trusty/      to    deb http://cran.stat.nus.edu.sg/bin/linux/ubuntu trusty/
[17:30] <waressea1cher2> that one helped http://superuser.com/questions/626606/how-to-make-alsa-pick-a-preferred-sound-device-automatically
[17:30] <srj55> sacarlson: yes, they can all ping.  but the windows machines can only ping the ubuntu box by IP.  The windows machines themselves can ping by local hostname
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> srj55: you need to edit dhcpd a little to make it publish its hostname to the DHCP server
[17:31] <nusr> ActionParsnip: thanks. but i'm still getting an error message: W: GPG error: http://cran.stat.nus.edu.sg trusty/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 51716619E084DAB9
[17:32] <srj55> ActionParsnip:  is that /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf   -->  send host-name "proxy";   ?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> nusr: then you need their PGP key
[17:32] <pgnome> if I use the nvidia way, then I upgrade 14.04, do I have to re-install the nvidia driver if it's the latest?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> srj55: http://www.lucidtips.com/2008/11/17/send-hostname-to-dhcp-server-on-ubuntuxubuntu/
[17:32] <sacarlson> srj55: well I still don't know if you want it to work on wan so I asume not.  so you can setup a local only bind9 that is used as your localnets dns that has to be setup in your dhcp server also.  then you can setup local zones as to how you want the names
[17:32] <nusr> ActionParsnip: ok thanks I'll try a different mirror
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> nusr: its not a mirror issue, you need to import the key
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> nusr: gimme a sec
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> nusr: you will get this with ANY PPA you add in this way
[17:33] <OerHeks> nusr, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys E084DAB9   >>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2013441
[17:34] <sacarlson> srj55: the windows boxes must be using that other windows method to share names like samba
[17:34] <srj55> sacarlson:  just on lan.  need each machine to see each other via hostname.
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> nusr: or:   sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 51716619E084DAB9
[17:35] <sacarlson> srj55: then you can use ether the samba method or bind9.  bind9 can also be setup to work on wan if you want later
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> srj55: the link I gave wil make the OS send its name to your home grade router and update the table of systems
[17:35] <OerHeks> ActionParsnip, that is an other key that i have found :-(
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: nm, no harm done
[17:35] <sacarlson> srj55: samba can only be used to work on local networks as far as I know
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: I have that as a script :)
[17:35] <srj55> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com $1
[17:36] <OerHeks> oke :-D
[17:36] <srj55> sacarlson:  i dont want samba i don't think.  I just want my ubuntu machine to be visibible on my lan to the other vm machines via hostname
[17:36] <nusr> ActionParsnip: looks like ALL CRAN mirrors require public key for R package
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> nusr: then import them with the command I gave, just change the hex value you are presented with in the error
[17:39] <sacarlson> srj55: aactionparsnip had a better solution he gave you above that I've never used http://www.lucidtips.com/2008/11/17/send-hostname-to-dhcp-server-on-ubuntuxubuntu/
[17:39] <srj55> sacarlson: thanks
[17:39] <nusr> OerHeks & ActionaParsnip: thanks a lot.
[17:40] <welldone> Hi, would anyone know why I can use a guest account on my router to get this box online, but cannot login to my wireless network? Both use the same pass.
[17:41] <sacarlson> welldone: I'm not sure sounds like a router thing
[17:41] <nusr> ActionParsnip: It worked!!
[17:41] <nusr> sweet
[17:42] <welldone> yeah, i'm pounding my head on my keyboard.....
[17:43] <nusr> ActionParsnip: is there a guidebook with common commands? such as the one you gave to obtain the public key?
[17:43] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[17:44] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Authentication_Tab
[17:44] <nusr> OerHeks: thank you.
[17:47] <pgnome> what's the disadv. of using the PPA method?
[17:48] <OerHeks> you will be depended on the ppa maintainer
[17:48] <LurgidBee> sacarlson, thanks for the suggestion, I wrote a script "csmake" that will do what I need. #! /bin/bash
[17:48] <LurgidBee> input=$1
[17:48] <LurgidBee> gcc $1'.c' -lcs50 -o $1
[17:49] <sacarlson> LurgidBee: yup that should do it
[17:50] <pgnome> why do 'how-to' writeups have info that the current driver is current but it's not?
[17:50] <pgnome> current driver being 343.x but in software center - is 304
[17:50] <reisio> pgnome: 'cause they're dated?
[17:50] <k1l> pgnome: the package is called nvidia-current
[17:50] <pgnome> reisio, what is dated?
[17:51] <pgnome> the write-up is a mth ago but in software center, the only package is way older
[17:51] <pgnome> k1l, yes...except it's nowhere near 'current' :)
[17:51] <reisio> pgnome: all things
[17:51] <sacarlson> pgnome: as soon as you write something it's already out of date
[17:51] <k1l> pgnome: and if you think about how release on ubuntu work, you will get to know why that is the way it is
[17:51] <pgnome> the package maintainers are not updating/upgrading it?
[17:52] <pgnome> no wonder ppl use nvidia website :-/
[17:52] <k1l> pgnome: hint: we have freezes before releasing
[17:52] <k1l> pgnome: so you stand for shipping not tested drivers into a release. ok than go with the nvidia side and dont blame ubuntu if something breaks.
[17:53] <pgnome> oh, maybe it will no longer be 304.x if I upgrade to next release, too?
[17:53] <pgnome> k1l, okay, but 340 are tested?
[17:53] <pgnome> ver 340
[17:53] <pgnome> but, I think maybe because my OS is using 14.04 packages
[17:53] <sacarlson> pgnome: my last computer had nvida and I used the binary and when it worked it works very good
[17:53] <k1l> pgnome: "apt-cache search nvidia"
[17:54] <pgnome> ok, hold on
[17:54] <pgnome> sacarlson, yes, it works fine
[17:54] <ki7mt> pgnome, If you want the bleeding edge drivers, use the xorg-edgers ppa
[17:54] <pgnome> sacarlson, I just don't want the dreaded black screen if I upgrade anything :)
[17:54] <k1l> sacarlson: and when it breaks you blame nvidia-side? or you come here and blame ubuntu?
[17:54] <k1l> pgnome: so dont use nvidia.side driver if you dont like black screens
[17:55] <sacarlson> pgnome: I do recall having problems everytime I installed a new kernel I had to reinstall nvidia drivers
[17:55] <sacarlson> pgnome: maybe they fixed that
[17:55] <pgnome> k1l, 343.22 is listed
[17:56] <pgnome> sacarlson, I believe that is still necessary if you use the nvidia 'way' to install nvidia drivers - i.e. .run script etc.
[17:56] <sacarlson> pgnome: ya that was the best latest stuf that worked best for me at the time
[17:56] <pgnome> sometimes I make a mistake though... :)  when doing it that way :)
[17:58] <pgnome> k1l, well, what is the option?  nouveau or buy new amd card? :)
[17:58] <sacarlson> pgnome: at times I recall testing 3 - 4 different versions before I found the one that worked when I first got the computer 7 years ago
[17:58] <pgnome> I should be an expert by now... but, I forget the steps.... ;)
[17:58] <k1l> pgnome: so what is your issue? not having the bleeding edge driver?
[17:58] <pgnome> I don't need bleeding edge drivers...
[17:59] <pgnome> just latest stable
[17:59] <k1l> pgnome: haha!!
[17:59] <pgnome> k1l, :-)
[17:59] <k1l> pgnome: you came here ranting about ubuntu not having the bleeding edge drivers and now say you dont need them?
[17:59] <halppls> Hello, I am trying to make an alert that says something like "Today's date is Mon Oct 27 10:53:53 PDT 2014"
[17:59] <halppls> in Ubuntu
[17:59] <halppls> who do I use echo "Today's date is " + date
[17:59] <halppls> work?
[17:59] <pgnome> k1l, I meant latest stable
[18:00] <pgnome> k1l,  apt-cache command displayed that - but, how do I install it?
[18:00] <k1l> pgnome: ubuntu does ship the nvidia 304 as current or the 331 as latest
[18:00] <pgnome> k1l, hmmmm
[18:01] <k1l> pgnome: install the nvidia-331 package? but make sure you remove the other nvidia driver before
[18:01] <sacarlson> pgnome: ya if you find the same in a package then it will auto reinstall when a kernel is upgraded
[18:02] <daftykins> *auto generate a new module for the newly installed kernel
[18:02] <daftykins> via DKMS
[18:02] <dreamcat4> hi. is there an equivalent of jails in ubuntu? like chroot jails or something?
[18:02] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[18:02] <OnkelTem> Can you advice a good image viewer?
[18:02] <sacarlson> pgnome: in the later years there was working nvidia in ppa
[18:02] <BlaXpirit> I have 2 options for "input devices" in pavucontrol: the "normal" one and a webcam. A microphone is not connected, so I choose the webcam for sound input, and it works. However, sound input stops working after a while (I don't know exact conditions), and in pavucontrol I see that the webcam is not selected again. How can I forbid the setting to change?
[18:03] <OnkelTem> I'm on Ubuntu with KDE and want to change Gwenview to something else
[18:03] <dreamcat4> the reason i ask is because can easily end up with lots of pkgs installed (many dependancies). and that is a pain to manage
[18:04] <cyberalex4life> I have a question: for clamscan or clamfs to send me mail (on the system) do I have to install something or it just works by default
[18:04] <cyberalex4life> ?
[18:04] <sacarlson> dreamcat4: virtualbox
[18:04] <daftykins> cyberalex4life: read their docs to find out, likely it relies upon 'sendmail'
[18:05] <cyberalex4life> thank you!!
[18:05] <pgnome> sacarlson, makes sense...thanks
[18:05] <pgnome> sacarlson, so, do I dare install the 343.22 package? :)
[18:05] <halppls> On Ubuntu where is the home directory located?
[18:05] <sacarlson> pgnome: I don't know, if you have the time
[18:06] <myrick> halppls /home/ ?
[18:06] <myrick> or /root/ xD
[18:06] <genii> halppls: /home/yoursusrname
[18:06] <k1l> pgnome: you dont sound like someone wanting the stable driver but the bleeding edge one. so why do you still ask? we will not support that packages in here anyway
[18:06] <jpds> halppls: echo $HOME
[18:07] <pgnome> I think it'd be fine but I'd be using the ppa - well, I think I am already for an older version
[18:07] <dreamcat4> sacarlson: that isn't quite the same thing. it wastes (compartmentalizes) too much ram having to allowcate to each VMs, the host etc
[18:07] <dreamcat4> chroot shares the same memory pool = no wastage
[18:07] <irreverant> what can i do about this? http://linux.slashdot.org/story/14/10/25/0046256/owncloud-dev-requests-removal-from-ubuntu-repos-over-security-holes
[18:08] <pbx> irreverant, say more. give context for your situation. what is your specific concern?
[18:09] <pgnome> k1l,  I don't understand  - they are not beta drivers and are in the repo
[18:09] <Pici> irreverant: If owncloud has its on repository use that.
[18:09] <sacarlson> dreamcat4: I've never attempted to have multi package setups to switch with chroot ,  more like multiboot but I guess you could have both multiboot and chroot
[18:09] <givello> Hey there, I'm experiencing trouble with my X.org since booting my computer tonight
[18:09] <irreverant> how do i update my repos? can i just manually remove the rremark for the sources list?
[18:09] <givello> I get the "no screen found" error
[18:09] <halppls> How can I list files form a particular directory with ls?
[18:09] <halppls> from*
[18:09] <givello> I have an Nvidia GTX770 and I'm not sure what to look for
[18:10] <sacarlson> dreamcat4: in virtualbox I like to just test it first and if it works then I install it on my real system
[18:10] <Pici> irreverant: what 'remark'?
[18:10] <givello> I tried rebooting obivously, as well as dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[18:10] <k1l> pgnome: what dont you understand? ubuntu (and we in here) support the stable nvidia-current or the nvidia-331 one. if that is too old for you use a PPA or the nvidia side but ask them if you get issues
[18:10] <givello> any tips?
[18:10] <ki7mt> irreverant, are you want to prevent the packages from being installed, or the ability to be installed or wanting fixes that haven't been published to the repo?
[18:11] <nusr> givello: buy bluehorseshoe
[18:11] <irreverant> ki7mt, yes
[18:11] <givello> nusr: wut
[18:11] <irreverant> there not there for 14.10 but are there for 14.04
[18:11] <nusr> givello: nevermind
[18:11] <k1l> irreverant: on a server you usually run a LTS anyway.
[18:12] <irreverant> arlight thank
[18:12] <pgnome> k1l, I understand now...thanks
[18:12] <genii> halppls: As for your earlier question about displaying the date, with the apostrophe in what's echoed:  echo -e 'Today\x27s Date is '$(date )
[18:12] <pgnome> I'll leave it for now
[18:13] <dreamcat4> sacarlson: ah right. good idea!
[18:13] <ki7mt> irreverant, look at adding a stanza for the package(s) in question to /etc/apt/preferences then use something like: echo <pkg-name> hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[18:13] <sacarlson> dreamcat4: I did do some experiments with chroot that didn't always work for me when switching complete systems.  I guess the kernel has to also match
[18:14] <dreamcat4> sacarlson: yes, that can be an issue. good point i forgot about that
[18:15] <cryptic0> I am having trouble installing rgdal R package on 14.04
[18:15] <sacarlson> dreamcat4:  there was also complications with the /proc and a few other direcotry
[18:15] <dreamcat4> on freebsd we can run a conventient cmd to copy binaries (like standard libraries etc) into the jails - that probably doesn't exist on linux
[18:16] <dreamcat4> i can imagine for proc, dev, and sys you can mount --bind all of those 3 into a chroot folder
[18:16] <cryptic0> anyone has any idea? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8707610/
[18:16] <sacarlson> dreamcat4: I'm not sure since we build our deb packages in much the same way with chroot
[18:17] <ki7mt> k1l, That's not always the case, one needs to test releases as well, so something along the lines of development, staging then productions would seem prudent leading into the Next LTS release.
[18:18] <genii> cryptic0: libproj-dev package
[18:18] <sacarlson> dreamcat4: but I guess they don't serve the same purpose as we don't run the chrooted files just package them.  your jail I guess you run them in it?
[18:18] <cryptic0> genii: thanks
[18:18] <dreamcat4> sacarlson: i think there are some linux software projects that can manage and create chroot jails for you
[18:19] <givello> Any tips on how to fix a "screen not found" error with an nvidia gtx770?
[18:19] <dreamcat4> sacarlson: but i've been using freebsd jails up until now (with qjail on freebsd)
[18:19] <givello> Or at least where to look
[18:19] <sacarlson> dreamcat4: sure with a working script you should be able to chroot to another of your grub boots
[18:20] <cryptic0> genii: that did it, thank you.
[18:20] <sacarlson> dreamcat4: but these jails they are not full systems just minimal libs for what you want to run in it?
[18:20] <sjmikem> why doesn't my iterm come to the foreground when I alt-tab to it?
[18:21] <genii> cryptic0: You're welcome
[18:21] <dreamcat4> sacarlson: the way qjail (or 'qchroot') and ez-jail work on freebsd is there is a shared read-only folder containing the base system
[18:22] <sjmikem> s/iterm/terminal
[18:22] <dreamcat4> sacarlson: and that is mount --bind into every jail. then symlinks to re-create the basic unix / folder structure
[18:22] <dreamcat4> sacarlson: like for /usr/lib etc. then anything that isn't in those folders is rear-write inside the jail (your own programs)
[18:23] <kris__> hi there..is this place to solve only ubuntu problems?
[18:23] <k1l> kris__: yes
[18:23] <sjmikem> If I alt-tab to the Terminal app, then opt-tab to the window, that works
[18:24] <kris__> cool..
[18:24] <ErwinRoos> anyone know how to figure out which 3rd party programs might be problematic for the distro upgrade ??
[18:24] <sacarlson> dreamcat4: that sounds cool and useful for someone without sudo privs could do most anything in his space
[18:24] <xangua> ErwinRoos: basically any 3rd party program/repository might be
[18:24] <kris__> Erwinroos, everything is available from the repository right..any special significance for third party ?
[18:24] <ki7mt> scampbell, that's what dchroot is designed to do, non-root usage.
[18:25] <branko_> hi all
[18:25] <ki7mt> sacarlson, not scampbell .. lol .. sri
[18:25] <dreamcat4> sacarlson: yes indeed. there's no reason why it can't be done on linux either (except with the 'chroot' cmd rather than the 'jail' cmd)
[18:25] <ErwinRoos> @Xanngua and Kris__  standard error can't calculate blah blah
[18:25] <sjmikem> is it a gnome-terminal bug or a problem with unity settings somewhere?
[18:26] <k1l> ErwinRoos: please pastebin the whole error
[18:26] <dreamcat4> perhaps someone did it already on linux too. just not yet familiar / aware of all the various linux jails software
[18:28] <kris__> @Erwinroos, agree with K1l, please paste the error here
[18:28] <ErwinRoos> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[18:28] <ErwinRoos>  This can be caused by:
[18:28] <ErwinRoos>  * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu
[18:28] <ErwinRoos>  * Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu
[18:28] <ErwinRoos>  * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu
[18:28] <daftykins> ErwinRoos: for upgrades you need to remove all PPAs
[18:28] <ErwinRoos> How do I do that Daftykins ?
[18:29] <k1l> ErwinRoos: next time please use paste.ubuntu.com.  can you please show the output of "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[18:29] <daftykins> ErwinRoos: first off identify which ones you're running, then follow k1l 'cause he's beaten me to it \o/
[18:30] <ki7mt> daftykins, look at y-ppa-manager, but you'll need to remove that before upgrading also. Linky: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/y-ppa-manager
[18:30] <daftykins> ki7mt: i'm not the one asking for help, not sure why you're showing me this :)
[18:31] <ErwinRoos> total 52
[18:31] <ErwinRoos> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Oct 27 14:30 .
[18:31] <ErwinRoos> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Apr 20  2014 ..
[18:31] <ErwinRoos> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  142 Oct 27 19:33 i2p-maintainers-i2p-trusty.list
[18:31] <ErwinRoos> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  142 Oct 27 19:32 i2p-maintainers-i2p-trusty.list.distUpgrade
[18:31] <ErwinRoos> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  142 Jul  5 11:17 i2p-maintainers-i2p-trusty.list.save
[18:31] <unopaste> ErwinRoos you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:31] <k1l> !paste | ErwinRoos i asked you twice to use a paste service. so please do so
[18:32] <daftykins> ki7mt: i greatly appreciate the irony in suggesting adding a PPA to install a program to manage PPAs to remove prior to an upgrade though. Chickens and eggs come to mind :)
[18:33] <ki7mt> daftykins, Indeed .. but it's much easier than chasing them all down  .. if you only have one or two, not a big deal.
[18:33] <sjmikem> anyone have ideas on my alt-tab problem?
[18:33] <sacarlson> ki7mt: looks like schroot is a super set of dchroot, dreamcat4 I would have to read more about it, it looks cool but I don't really have a real use for it that i can think of
[18:34] <ki7mt> sacarlson, I use it to share /home dirs between the two.
[18:34] <KrumpetPirate> Does anyone know a good git gui client?
[18:34] <ki7mt> sacarlson, Especailly when testing package builds and things.
[18:34] <sacarlson> ki7mt: between two people?
[18:35] <ki7mt> sacarlson, no, sigle user, I've not tried multi-user, but may work.
[18:35] <daftykins> ki7mt: ok, please direct that to the question askers in future though :)
[18:36] <ki7mt> daftykins, Hmm .. thought I did, fare enough.
[18:36] <SpareMeBS> #freebsd
[18:36] <sacarlson> ki7mt: ya I guess it might be good to test something in a pristeen freesh install that you could just snap to
[18:37] <ki7mt> sacarlson, You have to when you build packages,.
[18:37] <sacarlson> ki7mt: I was using virtualbox for my package test
[18:38] <ki7mt> sacarlson, i use pbuilder or cowbuilder most often, but like the schroot to test postinst / postrm scripts.
[18:38] <squinty> fwiw, there was no need to disable ppa's on the one box I upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10 as the updater stated it was going to automatically disable them before starting the upgrade (via the gui upgrader)
[18:38] <sacarlson> ki7mt: I guess it's worth a closer look
[18:39] <jParkton> try puppet that is what the cool kids use for build
[18:39] <ki7mt> sacarlson, It's not for everyone, but Im not goign to build prestine VM's to build packages, testing maybe, but not building.
[18:41] <ki7mt> jParkton, Im old and slow .. cool doesn't enter the picture in my world very often :-)
[18:43] <jParkton> I just like to sarcasticly put in what is popular, I don't personally use puppet
[18:43] <NeedHelp> Need some help...
[18:43] <NeedHelp> I just installed Windows 10, and I lost my grub with 2 Linux distrubutions.
[18:44] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: boot a live usb, chroot, and reinstall grub
[18:44] <NeedHelp> Whenever I startup the laptop it just immediatly goes to Widnows.
[18:44] <NeedHelp> Will I loose any data?
[18:44] <quantum-mechanic>  #python
[18:44] <EriC^^> nope
[18:44] <NeedHelp> What should I make bootale on my USB?
[18:44] <xangua> !grub2 | NeedHelp
[18:45] <sjmikem> Is my question unclear?  or just difficult?  :-)
[18:45] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: yes, make a bootable iso
[18:45] <k1l> NeedHelp: put in a ubuntu-cd/usb and reinstall the grub
[18:45] <NeedHelp> Would it work on Debian as well?
[18:45] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: you mean the live usb being debian or will reinstalling grub allow you to boot debian as well?
[18:46] <NeedHelp> reinstalling grub
[18:47] <EriC^^> yes, it'll work
[18:47] <EriC^^> you'll have debian, ubuntu, and windows in the grub menu
[18:47] <NeedHelp> How do I even reinstall the Grub?
[18:47] <EriC^^> if you chroot into debian installation, it should be the default entry
[18:47] <NeedHelp> can you link me to a site?
[18:48] <jhutchins_wk> !fixgrub
[18:48] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: can you boot a live usb and come here?
[18:48] <ki7mt> bootrepair
[18:48] <k1l> NeedHelp: for what now, ubuntu or debian?
[18:48] <NeedHelp> both
[18:48] <jParkton> lawl
[18:48] <NeedHelp> I've triple boot
[18:48] <NeedHelp> lol
[18:48] <givello> Hey there, I'm having an issue with my xorg, "no screens found". I tried a number of things, including installing the "current" version of the nvidia driver, and generating a xorg.conf
[18:48] <k1l> !grub | NeedHelp
[18:48] <givello> any tips?
[18:48] <potterapple> Hi guys i need some help
[18:48] <givello> I'm on 14.04.1 and have an nvidia GTX770
[18:48] <hulio> hi
[18:48] <k1l> NeedHelp: given you a lot of docs and links now, now its your task to read
[18:49] <NeedHelp> Would boot live repair be a better choise?
[18:49] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: nah
[18:49] <potterapple> I recently installed ubuntu 14.04 along with windows 8.1
[18:49] <hulio> can ubuntu installed on surface pro
[18:49] <potterapple> AAfter that windiws is taking like 10-15 mins to boot up!
[18:49] <potterapple> But ubuntu boots up in about a minute
[18:49] <hulio> can surface pro installed on ubuntu? please advise
[18:49] <potterapple> What could be the problem?
[18:49] <jParkton> didnt Ubuntu drop nvidia drivers from the last release?
[18:50] <k1l> hulio: first check if the bootloader allows that at all.
[18:50] <jParkton> er nvidia dropped linux support or some thing
[18:50] <k1l> jParkton: nope.
[18:50] <EriC^^> potterapple: ubuntu may have altered your perception of time such that windows seems to boot in 10-15mins :P
[18:50] <sjmikem> hello?  Is this thing on ?
[18:50] <trijntje> hi sjmikem
[18:50] <freijon_> that would suck big time jParkton ;)
[18:51] <jParkton> I think so
[18:51] <potterapple> EriC^^ no no im sure okay maybe not 10-15 mins about 7-10 mins atleast
[18:51] <jParkton> Torvalds recently spoke out on it
[18:51] <jParkton> let me try to find it
[18:51] <ki7mt> ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa  ... have a read on Launchpad
[18:51] <EriC^^> potterapple: maybe it was performing a chkdsk or something?
[18:51] <sjmikem> trijntje - hi :-)  Any idea what alt-tab to gnome-terminal window would not bring it to foreground?
[18:52] <sjmikem> s/what/why
[18:52] <ki7mt> And here: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/08/nvidia-driver-340-32-fixed-bugs/
[18:52] <jParkton> any reason why people would continue to use that dumb perl switch to correct typos?
[18:52] <hulio> does assphalt game have for unbuntu?
[18:52] <givello> I'd paste the error I get to you guys when using startx, but the thing is I'm in a tty right now
[18:52] <potterapple> EriC^^ but on every boot? Also sometimes i get this wierd screen when i select windows 8.1 ill show it yo you hold on
[18:53] <givello> and I forgot the name of that one pipe-able paste service
[18:53] <jParkton> givello: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:53] <bazhang> pastebinit givello
[18:53] <jParkton> then pastebinit cat /var/logs or whatever
[18:53] <givello> jParkton: perfect, thanks
[18:53] <sjmikem> jParkton do you have a better syntax to use?  and I thought it was sed long before it was perl...
[18:53] <k1l> jParkton: torvalds made a comment on the support of nvidia, yes. but its not dropped at all. dont mix that things
[18:53] <AlexPortable> How do I solve this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/537385
[18:54] <jParkton> k1l: dont scold me in flawed English
[18:54] <sjmikem> jParkton and it's much more productive to comment on that then to address the actual question, isn't it
[18:54] <AlexPortable> or well, system won't shutdown with nvidia driver
[18:54] <jParkton> sjmikem: do you have a point?
[18:54] <sjmikem> jParkton: you just made it for me, thanks
[18:55] <jParkton> your welcome
[18:55] <bazhang> stay on topic jParkton
[18:55] <EriC^^> jParkton: it's called reading between the lines
[18:55] <sjmikem> why do you bother to hang out here?
[18:55] <jParkton> bazhang: trying to
[18:55] <jmontero> hola
[18:55] <givello> here is the error I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/8708107
[18:55] <k1l> jParkton: do you have an ubuntu issue? else please use #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[18:55] <bazhang> sjmikem, lets move on
[18:55] <yourname1> hello
[18:55] <ki7mt> AlexPortable, whatever the fix, make sure you post your issues on the bug, so they know it's either back or wasn't really fixed to begin with.
[18:56] <givello> And here is my auto-generated xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/8708125
[18:56] <jParkton> k1l: ty I will
[18:56] <AlexPortable> ki7mt: it's not fixed. it even shows in the bug report
[18:56] <jParkton> givello: and this happens on boot?
[18:56] <bazhang> sjmikem, are you on gnome-shell or something else
[18:56] <ki7mt> AlexPortable, fare enough, I didn't study the bug, didn't even look at it actually.
[18:56] <givello> jParkton: nope, on boot I blink back to the terminal after a loading screen.
[18:56] <givello> jParkton: this happens when trying to startx
[18:57] <sjmikem> bazhang: not sure what gnome-shell is... I have a gnome-terminal window running, but when I try to alt-tab to it, it does not come to the foreground
[18:57] <jParkton> givello: did you recently autoremove some things?
[18:57] <givello> jParkton: I have yes
[18:57] <lickalott> is there a way to upload a file to something like dropbox via command line on ubuntu server?
[18:57] <k1l> givello: any reason you dont use lightdm but startx?
[18:57] <bazhang> sjmikem, the other shell being Unity
[18:57] <jParkton> hrmm
[18:57] <sjmikem> bazhang: oh, running Unity
[18:57] <potterapple> Ill be rigjt back
[18:57] <jParkton> try to apt-get install -f see if you get anything
[18:57] <givello> k1l: I'm just trying to start X from the terminal, didn't know lightdm was where it was at
[18:58] <givello> jParkton: let me try that
[18:58] <hulio> jParkton, i love Ubuntu man
[18:58] <k1l> givello: yes, on ubuntu you start it with "sudo lightdm start"
[18:58] <hulio> jParkton, with Samsung Evo 840 and fast shlt
[18:58] <potterapple> I'm back
[18:58] <bazhang> sjmikem, ok. gnome-shell has a number of alt-tab replacement extensions if you cannot get it going with unity. the nicest being a coverflow effect at the gnome extensions website
[18:58] <potterapple> EriC^^ I'll send the pic
[18:58] <givello> jParkton: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8708160
[18:58] <jParkton> opinions vary on Ubuntu lol
[18:59] <givello> k1l: let me try that, though I doubt if X can't start on it's own it'll start with lightdm
[18:59] <jParkton> givello: that is some odd stuff
[18:59] <jParkton> look in /var/logs see if you can find what fails
[18:59] <k1l> givello: no. lightdm will handle all that xserver starting stuff for you
[18:59] <sjmikem> bazhang: what's involved in switching from unity to gnome-shell to try it out?
[19:00] <ki7mt> no much, just install gnome-desktop
[19:00] <bazhang> sjmikem, apt-get gnome-shell and then choose at login
[19:00] <k1l> givello: what desktop do you want to start? what ubuntu is that?
[19:00] <sjmikem> bazhang: i'll try that out, thanks!
[19:01] <givello> jParkton: wait, forgot the 2>&1 or whatever the syntax is, so you might not have gotten all the errors
[19:01] <bazhang> sjmikem, once logged into it, you need to go to the gnome live extensions site and install some
[19:02] <givello> k1l: it's ubuntu with gnome3 installed, I was using gdm I believe
[19:02] <givello> k1l: and sudo gdm fails to do anything whatsoever
[19:02] <k1l> givello: so start the gdm
[19:02] <potterapple4269> Ugh i cant upload the pic
[19:02] <k1l> givello: so show the errors
[19:02] <k1l> potterapple4269: use imgur.com
[19:03] <givello> Anyone remembers the exact syntax to redirect errors to stdout? 2>&1 or 2&>1 or something like that?
[19:03] <givello> k1l: well, for sudo gdm it'll be quick, it just hangs
[19:03] <givello> k1l: I have to kill it
[19:03] <potterapple4269> K1l i did im on my phone so its not working properly windows will take ages to boot up
[19:04] <k1l> givello: try "sudo service gdm start"
[19:04] <givello> k1l: right away
[19:04] <ki7mt> givello, you have it right 2>&1 more info : http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html
[19:05] <givello> k1l: it was already running, and adding restart, well, restarted it, blinking me back to the terminal after a wee while
[19:05] <potterapple4269> So does anyone know why windiws could take 7-10 mins for booting up? Earlier it took about max 1 min
[19:05] <givello> jParkton: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8708227
[19:06] <givello> Here are the errors when trying to start lightdm, it's a tad more interesting than when starting gdm
[19:07] <potterapple4269> Anyone?
[19:07] <jParkton> potterapple4269: winblows
[19:07] <givello> potterapple4269: can't help you, I don't use it
[19:07] <jParkton> not #Ubuntu
[19:07] <EriC^^> jParkton: unhelpful
[19:07] <EriC^^> potterapple4269: it
[19:07] <givello> k1l: I appreciate you kicking the guy who was trying to help me
[19:07] <potterapple4269> Crap :/
[19:07] <EriC^^> did you try booting into windows after partitioning?
[19:08] <k1l> givello: he was unhelpfull quite a lot and had warnings. dont blame me for that :/
[19:08] <EriC^^> potterapple4269: how did you partition btw?
[19:08] <jParkton> Oh I see
[19:08] <tgm4883> k1l: +1
[19:08] <jParkton> well be cool then
[19:08] <potterapple4269> Yeah i did its been 2-3 days since i installed ubuntu
[19:08] <jParkton> and by all means talk shit behind my back
[19:08] <AlexQ> Hi guys! Just can't find that in Google: I need to compress one large file, chosen gzip, might use bzip2 if necessary. I would like to compress that file into a single, multi-file archive. How to do it?
[19:09] <k1l> givello: so please draw the whole picture: what ubuntu is that? what did you do before the problems came up? what is the error messages? etc.
[19:09] <ki7mt> Whats more concerning is the mpdprobe.d directory errors, what did you do before the DM started failing givello
[19:09] <potterapple4269> ErixC^^ i created a 200Gb partition (had to use fixparts) and then i used 100 gn of it for ubuntu but windows is installed in a whole different partiton
[19:09] <EriC^^> AlexQ: tar czvf <filename.tar.gz> /path/to/files
[19:09] <givello> k1l: okay, let's start over: I don't remember what I did before it happened, since it revealed itself at boot tonight, and the last time I used my computer was the day before
[19:10] <givello> It's ubuntu 14.04.1
[19:10] <AlexQ> EriC^^: And where do I choose how large is one piece? I have only one file to compress
[19:10] <givello> The problem manifest itself in that when booting, after the ubuntu loading screen, I get thrown in a terminal, with nothing in ctrl+alt+F7
[19:10] <givello> or any of the other Fs
[19:11] <k1l> givello: can you show a "dmesg" output?
[19:11] <givello> I don't get any error per se, but when I try to run startx I get the error pasted above
[19:11] <AlexQ> EriC^^: If it is not possible, I could use a pipe with a program that would save into a new file every e.g. 512MiB
[19:11] <givello> k1l: good call, let me fetch that
[19:11] <ki7mt> givello, Well it appearts, thatn neither of you display managers are functional .. maybe not the absolute fix, but maybe reinstalling one fo them or another DE would get you to a point where  you can investigate further.
[19:11] <givello> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8708266
[19:11] <k1l> givello: forget about startx. gdm in your case it the way to start a xserver. startx will ruin permissions
[19:12] <givello> ki7mt: let me try to reinstall gdm
[19:12] <potterapple4269> EriC^^ if i enable fastboot would that help?
[19:12] <EriC^^> potterapple4269: i don't think it's the problem, no
[19:12] <givello> for starters I just dpkg-reconfigured gdm
[19:13] <givello> doesn't work
[19:13] <givello> I'll try to reboot
[19:13] <givello> see you in a few
[19:13] <potterapple4269> EriC^^ okay! Thats a lead. So anything else i can try?
[19:13] <OnionGirl> hello everyone
[19:13] <k1l> givello: dou you have a nvidia hybrid card setup and removed the drivers at any chance?
[19:14] <OnionGirl> Can someone please help me. I just installed Ubuntu a few days ago and I've been having audio problems. For some reason the audo is really choppy and skippy. Anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[19:14] <AlexQ> EriC^^: You sure you got my question correctly? I want to compress one file into an archive that would be split into chunks
[19:14] <ki7mt> he needs to reconfig gdm, stop lightdm, then start gdm, but he's gone now.
[19:14] <givello> So, it didn't work.
[19:14] <EriC^^> AlexQ: yeah, hold on
 givello: dou you have a nvidia hybrid card setup and removed the drivers at any chance?
[19:15] <EriC^^> AlexQ: i can think of one way, but i'm pretty sure there's a better way
[19:15] <EriC^^> 1 sec
[19:16] <givello> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8708312/ here is my 200 last line of syslog
[19:16] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Yeah, it would be good to be able to decompress these files without the need of joining the archive back first
[19:16] <givello> k1l: nope, plain old gtx 770
[19:16] <givello> well, not that old.
[19:17] <givello> Oh, wait, I might have a video chipset on that motherboard
[19:17] <givello> let me check if I've an output there
[19:17] <EriC^^> potterapple4269: does windows have a log file for starts?
[19:17] <AlexQ> EriC^^: I think that would work, but with gzip instead, as I don't need to tar anything: tar czpvf - /path/to/archive | split -d -b 100M - tardisk.
[19:17] <potterapple4269> No idea sorry i can check though
[19:17] <givello> There is a video output on the motherboard so I can only assume there's an internal chipset
[19:17] <AlexQ> EriC^^: And decompress just by piping too: cat tardisk* | tar xzpvf -
[19:17] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Is it good?
[19:17] <givello> would that count as hybrid?
[19:18] <AlexQ> EriC^^: All replaced with appriopriate gzip/gunzip commands ofc
[19:18] <EriC^^> AlexQ: i guess so
[19:19] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Wonderful. Actually, I wanted to archive my Windows recovery partition and upload it into cloud, so that's why I want to split it - to make uploading easier
[19:19] <EriC^^> AlexQ: ah i see
[19:20] <tgm4883> givello: I believe hybrid would be having both intel and amd/nvidia on the motherboard. This would be different than having a dedicated graphics card in a slot (do you have a dedicated graphics card also)?
[19:20] <potterapple4269> EriC^^ yeah there is a way to generate bootlogs but i can do that now only tomorrow
[19:20] <givello> tgm4883: I do
[19:20] <potterapple4269> Also guys do you know of any irc for windows?
[19:21] <EriC^^> potterapple4269: ##windows i think
[19:21] <AlexQ> EriC^^: I believe there is some software for it too, (partimage or sth), and it can split obviously, but... I don't have such control over compression as by doing it manually, and my only point is to get rid of empty space on the disk, which should be mostly 0s (this is not a active partition, unless Windows uses the rest of space for installation)
[19:21] <potterapple4269> EriC^^ thanks I'll ask there
[19:21] <k1l> givello: well, i think its a video driver issue
[19:21] <EriC^^> np
[19:22] <MartinMaritim> hey
[19:22] <givello> k1l: sure looks like it. I tried installing the "current" version of the nvidia drier
[19:22] <givello> k1l: didn't change anything
[19:22] <AlexQ> EriC^^: I don't think partimage or whatever is clever enough to read what space is empty from the filesystem and ommit it in the backup?
[19:22] <givello> k1l: I tried generating a xorg.conf file using xorg -conf I believe
[19:22] <MartinMaritim> i've just put a font into /usr/share/fonts/truetype and refreshed cache, but its not available in Libreoffice.
[19:22] <tgm4883> givello: ok, so this is a long shot, but I had a similar issue to yours. Basically I found that my graphics were being output on the onboard VGA rather than my dedicated graphics card. I had to go into BIOS/UEFI to disable the onboard and that fixed the issue
[19:22] <givello> k1l: didn't work either
[19:22] <EriC^^> AlexQ: could have an option
[19:23] <givello> tgm4883: oh, I see. I'll try to do that. maybe it was reset somehow?
[19:23] <givello> let me try that and i'll be right back :)
[19:23] <EriC^^> AlexQ: no idea
[19:23] <tgm4883> givello: not sure, but it's such an easy thing to test it's worth checking
[19:24] <MartinMaritim> Or: are there any packages providing fonts for ink-saving (ecological) printing?
[19:24] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Well, the size produced by bzip2 -9 was only a bit smaller than empty space on that disk, and the disk contains mostly software and other files, which are already compressed I presume; I guess that's the reason of poor compression ratio rather than compressing and storing empty space with some random file chunks
[19:24] <MartinMaritim> What I did is: http://superuser.com/questions/345599/how-to-install-ecofont-on-various-operating-systems
[19:26] <MartinMaritim> fc-list is listing the font:   /usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice/ecofont_vera_sans_regular.ttf: Ecofont Vera Sans:style=Regular
[19:26] <EriC^^> AlexQ: yeah
[19:26] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Thanks for evaluating that approach then! Trying
[19:26] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Curious what gzip2 -1 will produce, how large files.
[19:30] <EriC^^> AlexQ: i think 7z has the best compression ratio
[19:31] <EriC^^> maybe it also has some kind of inherent split archiving too
[19:31] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Yeah, but I want it to be quick to start uploading today... Just curious if it is empty space, or not.
[19:31] <EriC^^> oh ok
[19:31] <potterapple4269> EriC^^ so i installed utorrents file for ubuntu its tar.gz i read that i need to use terminal to install it
[19:32] <potterapple4269> How v exactly any idea?
[19:32] <bekks> !info utorrent
[19:32] <bobbybobson> nope
[19:32] <EriC^^> potterapple4269: what do you mean by utorrents file?
[19:33] <potterapple4269> Like you know utorrent fir ubuntu
[19:33] <potterapple4269> *for
[19:33] <EriC^^> potterapple4269: you mean a client?
[19:33] <potterapple4269> Yeah
[19:33] <Killjoy> hello\
[19:33] <EriC^^> potterapple4269: ubuntu has a client, bittorrent , open the dash and type bittorent
[19:33] <Guest83983> u could use deluge
[19:34] <Killj0y> yea u could use deluge
[19:34] <potterapple4269> EriC^^ oh it's there already? Thanks!!
[19:34] <genii> EriC^^: utorrent is a web-based client, bittorrent is not
[19:34] <potterapple4269> Any way how does one install a .tar.gz?
[19:35] <bekks> potterapple4269: You unpack that archive, and you have to read the installation instructions included.
[19:35] <potterapple4269> Oh okay
[19:35] <EriC^^> potterapple4269: usually if you want something it's most likely in the repositories
[19:35] <potterapple4269> Okay thanks!! :)
[19:36] <EriC^^> no problem :)
[19:37] <bazhang> !torrent | potterapple4269
[19:38] <bazhang> transmission should suit fine potterapple4269
[19:39] <k1l> !away > dfgas
[19:39] <potterapple4269> bazhang i think I'll stick with bittorrent as it's already there
[19:39] <NeedHelp> Hi all! Me again... I've faced another problem while trying to recover my GRUB after installing Windows 10.
[19:39] <NeedHelp> I've made my USB bootable with Ubuntu, whenever I try to run my USB, it says that no operating system was found.
[19:40] <bekks> NeedHelp: How did you make it "bootable"?
[19:40] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: how did you make your usb?
[19:40] <NeedHelp> unetbootin
[19:40] <NeedHelp> with an .ISO file of course
[19:40] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: did you select it in the bios?
[19:40] <NeedHelp> yes.
[19:41] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: is it a good .iso? used before? checksummed if new?
[19:41] <NeedHelp> It seriously won't start up, I tried even Linux Mint and Ubuntu for now. Both didn't work.
[19:41] <bekks> NeedHelp: Which iso file?
[19:41] <NeedHelp> 64bit ubuntu
[19:41] <bekks> NeedHelp: Did you check the checksums?
[19:41] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: is secure boot enabled?
[19:41] <NeedHelp> no
[19:42] <EriC^^> no about the checksums or secure boot?
[19:42] <potterapple4269> Try recreating it?
[19:42] <NeedHelp> But CSM is enabled, without it it only keeps loading to BIOS, kinda in a loop.
[19:42] <NeedHelp> I've no idea about this checksums you talking about, what is it?
[19:43] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: if linux mint and ubuntu both didn't work
[19:43] <EriC^^> maybe your usb is bad
[19:43] <EriC^^> or some setting in the bios is wrong
[19:44] <NeedHelp> I'm sure it's not my USB.
[19:44] <onlaz> if I remove some apps from that unity menu, like libreoffice. Where can I find it by browsing, if I forget its name and cant use the search function?
[19:44] <NeedHelp> I've made Windows 10 and other Linux distro's before bootable.
[19:44] <sacarlson> NeedHelp: md5sum checksum will verify that the iso file you put into the usb is correct
[19:44] <k1l> onlaz: super+a
[19:44] <EriC^^> onlaz: in the dash you can select the applcations at the bottom and get a full list
[19:44] <Jordan_U> NeedHelp: Why wouldn't you be able to use the search function?
[19:44] <Jordan_U> onlaz: ^^
[19:44] <EriC^^> k1l: nice
[19:45] <k1l> onlaz: or type keywords like cd for a burning program
[19:45] <sacarlson> NeedHelp: also I have had some bad usb flash drives before.  you might try another one or test it if it's the only one you have
[19:45] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: how are you selecting CSM with win10?
[19:45] <NeedHelp> It's a real weird problem. With CSM disabled it keeps looping into BIOS, without it it just goes only to Windows 10.
[19:45] <onlaz> EriC^^: in the dash? you mean the leftside menu? I have trash at the bottom
[19:46] <NeedHelp> Unfortunately it's my onlu USB, but i'm almost sure it's not my USB.
[19:46] <NeedHelp> only*
[19:46] <k1l> onlaz: use the apps-dash and on the right you can choose sections like multimedia, system,..
[19:46] <NeedHelp> @Eric, I'm able to go to BIOS, from there I can enable/disable CSM.
[19:46] <k1l> onlaz: but its really easier with the dash
[19:46] <onlaz> k1l: that super-a seems to be what I want thanks
[19:46] <EriC^^> onlaz: press super+a (windows key + a) , or press the first icon at the top to open the dash, then press the applcations icon at the bottom (2nd one)
[19:47] <Jordan_U> NeedHelp: How did you prepare the USB for booting? You probably shouldn't have CSM enabled, as both Windows and Ubuntu will probably work better (and step on each other less) when configured for, and booting with, UEFI.
[19:47] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: yeah, what Jordan_U said
[19:47] <NeedHelp> @Jordan_U without CSM enabled, my laptop keeps in a loop to BIOS.
[19:48] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: shouldn't it just boot windows?
[19:48] <EriC^^> win10 is uefi right?
[19:48] <NeedHelp> I don't know, it boots only the BIOS with CSM disabled.
[19:48]  * EriC^^ feels a doh. moment dawning
[19:49] <Jordan_U> NeedHelp: What do you mean by "boots only the BIOS"? What do you actually see when you try to boot with CSM disabled?
[19:49] <NeedHelp> Whenever the I start the laptop it immediately goes to BIOS.
[19:49] <OerHeks> secure boot?
[19:50] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: you said it was booting windows before
[19:50] <NeedHelp> When CSM is enabled, yes.
[19:50] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: you mean if you have the usb selected as the boot device?
[19:50] <EriC^^> csm means legacy right?
[19:50] <NeedHelp> Compatibility Support Module (CSM)
[19:51] <onlaz> is it possible to have the classic taskbar behaviour and the toolbar of the windows above the actual windows while having the super button quick search thing menu?
[19:51] <NeedHelp> When CSM is enabled and I choose the boot option USB, I get an error that no Operating System is found.
[19:51] <EriC^^> onlaz: toolbar above the windows, settings > appearance > behavior > show menus
[19:52] <EriC^^> onlaz: classic taskbar behavior, not sure what you mean
[19:52] <NeedHelp> I'm sure the USB is bootable, it's my laptops problem not mine USB.
[19:52] <Jordan_U> NeedHelp: What do you mean by "boots only the BIOS"? What do you actually see when you try to boot with CSM disabled?
[19:52] <NeedHelp> Just BIOS.
[19:52] <NeedHelp> @Jordan.
[19:52] <NeedHelp> Save and quit will let me again go to BIOS.
[19:53] <onlaz> I don\t know where to go to settings > appearance > behaviour so I went to super and typed appearance, icon appeared, I clicked it but nothing happened
[19:54] <EriC^^> onlaz: click the top right corner and select settings
[19:54] <EriC^^> onlaz: what did you mean by classic taskbar behavior?
[19:55] <NeedHelp> BTW, Windows 10 is a little better then Win 8 if you were questioning yourself. ;-)
[19:56] <onlaz> alrighty.. well I just meant the taskbar thing where the running apps are shown on top or bottom bar instead of left bar with showing also those that are not running
[19:56] <onlaz> classic menu shows only running, this shows all
[19:56] <onlaz> but I guess I could get used to this too by removing the useless ones
[19:57] <EriC^^> onlaz: yeah, you can remove what you want, it'd still show whatever you run
[19:57] <NeedHelp> Someone want to help me in DM? It will be easier that way.
[19:57] <EriC^^> onlaz: to place it on the bottom, you can use cairodock
[19:57] <EriC^^> !info cairodock
[19:57] <EriC^^> !info cairo-dock
[19:57] <onlaz> this is not as space efficient, because the top bar is almost fully empty now having only those couple icons on top right corner and meanwhile occupying much space on left side
[19:57] <Jordan_U> NeedHelp: This is an important question, please answer it. *What do you see?*
[19:58] <NeedHelp> I think I already answered it @Jordan. I see the BIOS. It simply directly boots to my BIOS. I'm not able to press any other keys.
[19:59] <onlaz> ok Ill look into those
[19:59] <NeedHelp> I mean before the BIOS loads I can not press any other key.
[19:59] <onlaz> where did you get windows 10?
[20:00] <NeedHelp> Whatever I change, if the CSM is still disabled it keeps booting to BIOS only.
[20:00] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: is secure boot disabled?
[20:00] <NeedHelp> yes.
[20:00] <Dr_Natas> check fast boot to be disabled.
[20:01] <onlaz> can I download the windows 10 preview version what you are talking about, without having any windows licenses?
[20:01] <NeedHelp> Fast boot, Secure boot are disabled only CSM is enabled.
[20:01] <OerHeks> onlaz, wrong channel
[20:02] <NeedHelp> Onlaz you can, it's beta. Buy as @OerHeks says, this is not an Windows channel.
[20:02] <reisio> onlaz: win10 comes with a key, it expires in about a year as it's a preview
[20:02] <reisio> onlaz: free for anyone, for now, for about a year
[20:02] <onlaz> okay. can you run games like hearthstone with it?
[20:03] <NeedHelp> Dude, just install Windows 8.
[20:03] <reisio> onlaz: um, dunno, probably
[20:03] <NeedHelp> You can later upgrade to Windos 10. Jeez...
[20:03] <onlaz> I dont have the license and I am afraid to illegally download malwarezed copies
[20:03] <reisio> MS actually provides free virtual machine images
[20:03] <reisio> they're just time bombed, so you'd have to regen them regularly
[20:03] <reisio> https://github.com/xdissent/ievms for example
[20:03] <k1l> guys, windows support really doesnt suit in this channel. that is unfair for users coming here for help for ubuntu
[20:04] <OerHeks> maybe you need bootrepair NeedHelp https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_EFI_mode
[20:04] <reisio> I think he's trying to improve his Ubuntu usage
[20:04] <reisio> by replacing win32 apps
[20:04] <NeedHelp> true @k1l, guys lets talk about Ubuntu.
[20:05] <Bubo_> EriC^^, are you there?
[20:06] <EriC^^> Bubo_: yeah
[20:06] <NeedHelp> @OerHeks - I can't go to Boot Repair that's my problem. It won't load anything except Windows looks like.
[20:06] <NeedHelp> from USB bootable
[20:06] <EriC^^> Bubo_: what's up?
[20:06] <OerHeks> did you use disk encryption with win10 ?
[20:06] <NeedHelp> No.
[20:07] <NeedHelp> Windows is really annoying. -.-
[20:07] <Bubo_> EriC^^, hey, remember my problem with dual booting ubuntu and win8? You helped me gix it
[20:07] <Bubo_> fix*
[20:07] <onlaz> did your win10 installation mess up your ubuntu too, or what is needhelps problem?
[20:07] <EriC^^> Bubo_: ok
[20:07] <EriC^^> Bubo_: did we switch .efi files?
[20:08] <NeedHelp> I think my partition is still alive somewhere @onlaz, it's just that it messed up my GRUB.
[20:08] <Bubo_> EriC^^, yea we did. Can you explain what we did? I need to fix my Arch boot too
[20:08] <EriC^^> Bubo_: ok
[20:09] <onlaz> oh.. I thought windows installations up from 7 or 8 at least have managed to leave grub alone, or just add their own entry there. So installing that windows 10 will mess up the bootloaders?
[20:09] <onlaz> or such
[20:09] <Bubo_> onlaz, every windows installation messes up boot
[20:09] <NeedHelp> I thought the same @Bubo.
[20:09] <EriC^^> Bubo_: the bios looks bootmgfw.efi in the efi partition, and we replaced that file with grub's .efi file and called it bootmgfw.efi so that bios loads it instead of the microsoft boot manager
[20:09] <k1l> onlaz: windows, with its monopol, doesnt care about other OSs.
[20:10] <Nao> Salut
[20:10] <Bubo_> EriC^^, oh, so I just need to update grub's .efi and just replace it again?
[20:10] <EriC^^> Bubo_: what do you mean by fix your arch boot?
[20:10] <NeedHelp> I think I might have an BIOS problem.
[20:10] <EriC^^> grub should have arch there too no?
[20:10] <onlaz> I am on ubuntu live cd. I am thinking of installing ubuntu 14.04.1. I have been running lubuntu, but I have encountered some problems that ppl suggest me a clean install. So if I wanted to try w10 too, I guess I shuld do the conventional windows 10 installation first, and then install ubu 14.04.1
[20:10] <Guest23495> .
[20:10] <Bubo_> EriC^^, I want to install Arch now, and I know it will somehow mess up my boot
[20:10] <EriC^^> Bubo_: have you installed arch in another partition?
[20:11] <EriC^^> Bubo_: are you installing it in another partition?
[20:11] <Bubo_> EriC^^, I will be replacing the ubuntu one. Can we talk in PM since it's not really ubuntu issue?
[20:11] <EriC^^> Bubo_: if you're installing arch, you'll have to grub-install yourself, so you can just skip that if you want
[20:11] <NeedHelp> @Onlaz - if you wan't an stable OS where everything goes smoothly from Windows, I really would pick Win7/8
[20:11] <EriC^^> and just update-grub in ubuntu to catch arch's installation
[20:11] <EriC^^> ok
[20:12] <onlaz> does the startup disk creator on ubuntu work just aswell if I wanted to create a bootable and installable windows 10 on usb? or is it just for linux startup disks
[20:12] <dfdf> offtopic: im using Xming server on my windows machine, when i start any X app via ssh (putty) i.e. XChat it doesn't apply my GTK theme settings, any hints?
[20:12] <NeedHelp> BIOS problems, who has experience with this CSM?! My worst nightmare till now.
[20:13] <bazhang> dfdf ##windows
[20:13] <onlaz> NeedHelp: I am not planning on spending any money. I would just install it for testing purposes and maybe trying some games occasionally. or as a backup OS. I will be using ubuntu
[20:13] <bazhang> onlaz, windows has tools for that ----> ##windows for help
[20:14] <onlaz> bazhang: youre saying that the startup disk creator cant manage the windows 10 ISO?
[20:14] <dfdf> bazhang, not really #windows related. its more about configuring GTK
[20:14] <NeedHelp> STOP TALKING ABOUT WINDOWS NOW.
[20:14] <NeedHelp> 0.0
[20:14] <onlaz> my question is startup disk creator related!
[20:14] <bazhang> dfdf are you not on hexchat yet?
[20:15]  * reisio defenestrates NeedHelp
[20:15] <onlaz> reisio: these ievms you posted are also usable for like one year or so?
[20:15] <reisio> onlaz: I think less
[20:16] <dfdf> bazhang, im using xchat right now running on Ubuntu 14.04, but all i want is to change my default GTK theme. i dont know how tho
[20:16] <adac> is the new package for pidgin available soon? there are severe security holes in the old one it seems http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Sicherheits-Update-fuer-Pidgin-Messenger-2435406.html
[20:17] <bazhang> dfdf, yes, and hexchat is the maintained/developed one, much easier to handle
[20:17] <Linnak> Hi, I'm looking for a cool system monitor. I used a month ago but I forget which was that. It isn't in the official repos. Can someone offer me one?
[20:17] <k1l> adac: there will not be any version number updates but patches. but best is to make a bug report to make the maintainer of that package be aware of the issues
[20:18] <bazhang> Linnak, conky
[20:18] <dfdf> bazhang, ok i'll try it now :P
[20:18] <bazhang> Linnak, if its not official, search the  web for it
[20:18] <Linnak> bazhang: Thanks, I know that. What I'm thinking on is not in the official repos.
[20:18] <adac> k1l, Thanks! where can I do that? and how do I find out who is the package maintainer
[20:19] <ionreflex> a coworker just upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10, after login only the mouse appear over the background, no sidebar...
[20:19] <bazhang> Linnak, so do a bing/goog/we search for it
[20:19] <k1l> adac: file a bug on launchpad.net to pidgin
[20:19] <Linnak> I did. I'm doing it for  an hour. I thought someone uses here
[20:19] <k1l> !bug | adac
[20:19] <adac> k1l, thanks mate!
[20:20] <dfdf> ok, now it's hexchat.
[20:20] <reisio> :)
[20:20] <ionreflex> AMD GPU Radeon 6850
[20:20] <dfdf> anyway back to my question. How do i change default gtk theme?
[20:21] <grosjean> dfdf: do you use gnome-shell ?
[20:21] <grosjean> if so, use gnome-tweak-tool
[20:21] <bazhang> dfdf for xchat , try #xchat
[20:22] <ionreflex> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) Major opcode of failed request:  155 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request:  19 (X_GLXQueryServerString) Serial number of failed request:  22 Current serial number in output stream:  22
[20:22] <ionreflex> openConnection: connect: No such file or directory
[20:22] <ionreflex> cannot connect to brltty at :0
[20:22] <ionreflex> Script for ibus started at run_im.
[20:22] <ionreflex> Script for auto started at run_im.
[20:22] <ionreflex> Script for default started at run_im.
[20:22] <dfdf> grosjean, installing~
[20:22] <ionreflex> upstart: at-spi2-registryd main process ended, respawning
[20:22] <ionreflex> upstart: at-spi2-registryd main process ended, respawning
[20:22] <ionreflex> upstart: at-spi2-registryd main process ended, respawning
[20:22] <ionreflex> upstart: at-spi2-registryd main process ended, respawning
[20:22] <bazhang> unopaste?
[20:23] <Jordan_U> ionreflex: Please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com for posting multiple lines. You've been temporarily muted to avoid further flooding.
[20:24] <ionreflex> Oups, sorry...
[20:25] <dfch> nope gnome-tweak-tool doesnt help
[20:25] <ionreflex> Content of ~/.xsession-errors = http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8709093/plain/
[20:25] <ionreflex> (is that the way to do it?)
[20:26] <linux> Alguien sabe cómo calibrar la rueda del mouse para que en el desplazamiento no se salte partes?
[20:26] <grosjean> ionreflex: yes
[20:27] <ionreflex> any input is welcomed, I keep looking...
[20:27] <Jordan_U> ionreflex: Yes, though in the future please don't link to plain output (even though with other pastebin sites I prefer raw pastes, unfortunately Ubuntu's pastebin requires a launchpad login to view plain pastes).
[20:27] <jpds> Jordan_U: (Because of abuse for malware payloads).
[20:28] <ubunt633> buenas
[20:28] <ubunt633> oye linus note pasa en firefox
[20:28] <ubunt633> tenes que habilitar el desplazamiento automatico
[20:28] <whirlwind> hi guys...beginner here...was looking for nice conky recommendations that are minimalist & nice looking
[20:28] <linux> Me pasa en todas partes...
[20:29] <ubunt633> que estas usando ubuntu ?
[20:29] <Jordan_U> !es | ubunt633
[20:29] <linux> Ubuntu 14.04
[20:30] <adac> k1l, I could not really choose pidgin or the responsible person: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1386410
[20:30] <ubunt633> el mismo que yop mmm ya probaste en configuracion y probar si funciona el mouse
[20:31] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys  I did an upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10 my laptop mouse pad not working
[20:31] <linux> Ya lo hice, pero nada soluciona el problema y en google no encuentro nada...
[20:31] <ionreflex> Jordan_U : what format? Text only?
[20:31] <ubunt633> mm linux have a problem whit the mouse wheel
[20:32] <ubunt633> he is using ubuntu 14.4
[20:33] <dfch> found "solution" for my problem
[20:33] <dfch> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1800094
[20:33] <k1l> !mx | linux
[20:33] <Shimmy> Does anynone know a way to limit battery capacity on Lenovo IdeaPad device? (14.04)
[20:33] <k1l> linux: see #ubuntu-mx
[20:34] <dfch> kinda lol'ed when been forwarded to #windows and #xchat tho
[20:34] <linux> I did it.
[20:34] <pbx> Shimmy, i don't know anything about that hardware, but i think you should expand/clarify what you mean by  "limit battery capacity"
[20:35] <leonic12> mm linux ya probaste apt-get update ?
[20:35] <leonic12> y mm activar el dezplazamiento automatico en FF
[20:35] <Shimmy> pbx: allow it only to charge up to i.e. 60% and start charging when it drops to 50%
[20:37] <linux> Tengo todas las actualizaciones y ya probé lo de FF...
[20:38] <dfch> kamchatka?
[20:38] <SigMa__> so, I have an issue. after upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10, my gui seems to have lost the priveleges to do anything that requires root. so i can't mount drives from gui, and i cant shut of  my computer from gui, etc. anyone know how to fis this>
[20:38] <SigMa__> ?
[20:38] <Shimmy> or, what would be even better, keep battery at certain level (i.e. 60%) and always use DC charger so the battery is not used
[20:39] <SigMa__> I had read that the /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/90-mandatory.d/udisks2-inhibit.pkla rule might be causing this, however this rule is not present in my system
[20:40] <leonic12> pero de otra manera tu mraton funciona normal mm no sera algo de hardware ?
[20:40] <Xerwer> o
[20:41] <k1l> !es | leonic12
[20:42] <linux> No creo que sea problema de hardware, en windows funciona bien
[20:43] <Sabari> Hi. Upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and after the upgrade, the gui becomes unresponsive after login
[20:43] <success> how do i fetch stuff in the universe?
[20:43] <quadHelix> I have just encrypted my home directory.  While I am logged in I can no longer access my websites I am developing (they were linked to /var/www).  Will I be able to use my home directory for development via symbollic links or must I move my data to /var/www?
[20:43] <ionreflex> Sabari : I guess you meant 14... same here!
[20:44] <Sabari> sorry it is 14
[20:44] <puish> Has anyone dealt with the issue where sometimes on boot it cannot find a wifi network? Other times it works flawlessly
[20:45] <SigMa__> so, I have an issue. after upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10, my gui seems to have lost the priveleges to do anything that requires root. so i can't mount drives from gui, and i cant shut of  my computer from gui, etc. anyone know how to fis this?  had read that the /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/90-mandatory.d/udisks2-inhibit.pkla rule might be causing this, however this rule is not present in my system
[20:46] <ionreflex> Sabari : AMD/ATI card?
[20:46] <SigMa__> is there anyway to fix? or do i have to preform a fresh install?
[20:47] <treehug88> SigMa__: any hints in logfiles?
[20:47] <SigMa__> witch logfiles would i need?
[20:48] <Sabari> ionreflex: intel Integrated
[20:48] <treehug88> check /var/log/syslog
[20:48] <treehug88> and /var/log/authlog (less likely to help)
[20:49] <treehug88> trigger the issue again and look at the ends of those files, maybe there's a hint
[20:50] <Sabari> mouse clicks are not responding, keyboard as well except that i am able to get to the terminal by pressing ctrl+alt+f1
[20:52] <SigMa__> got nothing from the auth.log
[20:53] <SigMa__> Oct 27 14:37:32 Aurora gnome-session[2028]: WARNING: Unable to inhibit system: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Operation not permitted is from my syslog
[20:53] <treehug88> hmmm
[20:54] <treehug88> did you google that error
[20:55] <treehug88> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-978198-start-0.html
[20:55] <SigMa__> yeah, im on google right now. i found a page that looks similar from gentoo but i dont know if it would cross distros properly
[20:55] <dfch> thumbs up for gentoo :p
[20:56] <acerspyro> Why are you guys so much against updating to 14.10?
[20:56] <treehug88> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2230602  ?
[20:56] <acerspyro> I'd love to know
[20:56] <SigMa__> plus there is a launchpad bug for it too that i found.
[20:56] <treehug88> acerspyro: curious here too
[20:56] <kostkon> acerspyro, only 9 months of support
[20:56] <acerspyro> kostkon: And?
[20:57] <treehug88> and many people prefer LTS
[20:57] <acerspyro> That's all I get, "only 9 months of support"
[20:57] <treehug88> "long term support" is 5 years-ish
[20:57] <acerspyro> I update AS SOON as an update comes out.
[20:57] <acerspyro> Not after 9 months
[20:57] <treehug88> acerspyro, you asked you got an answer :)
[20:57] <acerspyro> treehug88: I did lol
[20:57] <kahtahs_> acerspyro: updating w/o doing any testing
[20:58] <treehug88> I like LTS too
[20:58] <guntbert> acerspyro: back to support please - this is not a room for discussions
[20:58] <acerspyro> But people are all like "Why would you switch" :P
[20:58] <treehug88> fair question
[20:58] <brainwash> feel free to update to 14.10
[20:58] <acerspyro> guntbert: This is support, I seek assistance concerning the reason to stay on LTS
[20:58] <acerspyro> brainwash: I did, and my video driver stopped working
[20:58] <acerspyro> And then everyone was like "Buh why did you switch?"
[20:59] <hasan> hi. I just installed ubuntu 14.04. but my unity compiz (the launcher on the top left) isn't fullscreen
[20:59] <hasan> any hints?
[20:59] <brainwash> luckily you did a system backup before upgrading... didn't you? :)
[20:59] <guntbert> acerspyro: you can discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic or maybe #ubuntu-discuss
[20:59] <dooshtuRabbit> are you guys corporations that you need LTS?
[20:59] <k1l> acerspyro: its your choice. every user got his own demands so he can choose to.
[20:59] <acerspyro> system is 6 days old
[20:59] <SigMa__> and the launchpad bug is not helpfull with workarounds
[21:00] <k1l> acerspyro: and this channel is not for general chat or polls. if you have a technical issue you are right in here.
[21:00] <dooshtuRabbit> LTS is necessary if your running ubuntu on production servers and when hell breaks out can call someone to yell at
[21:00] <acerspyro> k1l: I did ask an issue
[21:00] <Guest34143> hi guys, is there any online tv channels that stream IT related stuff? Sounds daft possibly, but would be really information... aka, I press play and forget about it, unlike youtube where you search for stuff then press play
[21:00] <k1l> !lts | acerspyro
[21:01] <hasan> the compiz overlay in ubuntu is approx. a quater the size of my screen/display. it is a box quater the size of my display
[21:01] <hasan> on the top left.
[21:01] <bazhang> Guest34143, miro
[21:01] <hasan> how can I go fullscreen?
[21:01] <acerspyro> k1l: Is there a way to get all the latest packages on Stable?
[21:01] <k1l> acerspyro: you asked for a poll. that will block this support channel with discussion for a long period and is unfair for users having technical issues. so please dont do that. and dont try to start a drama out of it
[21:01] <bazhang> !info miro | Guest34143
[21:01] <leonic12> is there a way to add a iso on yumi whiout reformat ?
[21:01] <acerspyro> What poll?
[21:01] <k1l> acerspyro: no. you mixed latest and stable there in your sentence