[00:59] <whitemale> Hello :) - i have a Aquaris M10 (HD) (not FHD) with ubuntu touch installed on it. i would like to install Android on it, and i am a little confused about how this is done, in the wiki its says that there are a Recovery image and a Reinstalling gudide, the Reinstalling guide does not have any files for "bq Aquaris M10 (HD nor FHD)", please help :)
[01:05] <whitemale> or is the recovery image just the recovery image of ubuntu touch? is there a android for aquaris m10?
[02:01] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: how do I see what works on that devel_rc-proposed channel?
[02:19] <whitemale> how do i install android 5.1 on aquaris m10 hd firmware 1.3.0 with ubuntu touch installed on it?
[02:39] <ahoneybun> mm nhaines or popey "ubuntu-device-flash query --device=flo --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu --list-images" reports that OTA-11 is up for flo but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes/OTA-11 says it is not
[02:40] <ahoneybun> not sure if I should edit
[02:40] <ahoneybun> or can anyway lol
[11:19] <oftc_ftw> hi all. i'm trying to install Ubuntu Dual Boot on my Nexus 4. It seemed to work so far, but when I click "Reboot to Ubuntu" the phone is stuck at the Google logo until I reset it. Of course, then it reboots back into Android. Any ideas?
[11:20] <oftc_ftw> I've got to admit that I use OmniRom instead of CM and TWRP instead of ClockwordMod. Could that lead to such issues?
[11:21] <popey> Possibly.
[11:22] <popey> We generally don't support any kind of dual boot.
[11:24] <oftc_ftw> ok sorry, i thought maybe someone had similar issues before.
[11:25] <popey> oftc_ftw: we just don't ever test those scenarios really
[11:29] <oftc_ftw> popey: i understand, it would just be really convenient to have this kind of setup right now. never mind then.
[11:38] <brunch875> I wanted to try that too just for the sake of it, but I've always been concerned android would patch some drivers or something and break the system.
[12:43] <jgdx> jibel, hey, how is bug 1588630 affecting USS? Anything I can do?
[12:49] <jibel> jgdx, it's just a translation issue. I added a task to track which component is affected otherwise it's just umbrella projects
[12:49] <jgdx> jibel, okay
[13:34] <mike00> hi all, I want to report some bug at the screen asking for the pin. where can I report it?
[13:35] <ogra_> see channel topic
[13:36] <mike00> bug filing?
[13:37] <mike00> what shall I choose?
[13:37] <ogra_> just follow the link
[13:38]  * saavento says Hi!
[13:38] <mike00> which area should I choose? I'm not English so I don't understand exactly all the categories...
[13:39] <ogra_> the area you think is affected by your bug indeed
[13:40] <ogra_> (what exactly is your issue with the pin)
[13:42] <mike00> if the background image is white or with light colour you can see very well words: the lock screen image is a bit darken, the pic image should be like that one.
[13:42] <mike00> pin+
[13:42] <mike00> *
[13:44] <ogra_> mike00, the lockscreen is lightdm iirc
[13:44] <ogra_> or unity8 ... just pick one of them
[13:44] <dobey> it's unity8 i think
[13:44] <ogra_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+filebug?no_redirect
[13:44] <ogra_> try that link
[13:45] <mike00> but I want to report the pin image not the lockscreen one
[13:45] <mike00> the image lock screen is perfect now
[13:45] <ogra_> what do you mean by "pin image" then ?
[13:45] <dobey> it's the same thing
[13:46] <mike00> the background image of the screen asking for the pin
[13:46] <mike00> it's the same image of the lock screen but not darkened
[13:47] <ogra_> hmm, here it is the same brightness level ... the image i swipe to the side is the same as the next one that shows the number pad
[13:47] <dobey> it's the same thing. unity8 is what manages the lock screen
[13:48] <dobey> ogra_: i think the complaint is a transparency issue, not hardware brightness
[13:48]  * ogra_ doesnt see any brightness difference
[13:49] <ogra_> dobey, yes, respectively a picture brghtness issue ... but i dont see any difference in brightness ... trying to grasp what the issue is
[13:49] <dobey> ogra_: well you aren't looking at mike00's screen :)
[13:49] <mike00> yes, could be a transparency issues
[13:49] <ogra_> true, might depend on the wallpaper you use
[13:50] <dobey> or hardware
[13:50] <ogra_> mike00, well, thats definitely unity8 ... so just follow the link i pasted above
[13:50] <dobey> and image
[13:50] <ogra_> (even if that would be wrong, people will move it to the right bucket later)
[13:51] <mike00> my image as a white zone in the top left corner, under some words...
[13:51] <mike00> and I can't see the words very well...
[13:51] <ogra_> right, and the font is plain white with no shadows under the chars
[13:52] <ogra_> (usually a light drop shadow would fix this)
[13:52] <mike00> in the lock screen is better than in the screen asking for the pin...
[13:52] <dobey> *sigh*
[13:53] <ogra_> just file it against unity8
[13:53] <ogra_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+filebug?no_redirect
[13:53] <mike00> thanks
[14:05] <mike00> and is correct that I can close the screen asking for the PIN just swiping to left or to right?
[14:10] <dobey> i don't think so, no
[14:11] <mike00> ok thanks.
[14:11] <dobey> mike00: are you asking about the main pin unlock for the system, or you are asking about SIM unlock pin?
[14:11] <mike00> the SIM one
[14:12] <dobey> ok, i am not sure if that is part of unity8 or not
[14:12] <dobey> and i don't have a locked sim, so i don't know how it works exactly
[14:13] <mike00> ok, so the bug i asked for before goes under unity8 or not?
[14:14] <mike00> last question (I hope): can I attach more than 1 file in a bug report on LP?
[14:14] <ogra_> as many as you want
[14:14] <dobey> yes; if it doesn't belong to unity8, the devs will move it to the right place
[14:15] <mike00> thanks, but how can I attach more than 1 file?
[14:15] <dobey> attach a file; then attach another one
[14:17] <mike00> I'm sorry but I can't: I select a file and it works, but for the second when I select it, the pc deselect the file I choose before...
[14:17] <ogra_> if you click the "add attachement or patch" link it doesnt allow you to add a file ?
[14:18] <mike00> yes but only one file
[14:18] <ogra_> sure
[14:19] <dobey> right
[14:19] <dobey> you have to attach one file, then attach another one
[14:20] <dobey> i didn't say select. and even if multi-select worked, you'd still have to ctrl+click or shift+click to select multiple files in the chooser; but multi-select doesn't work
[14:20] <mike00> I click ok on the first file, then I click to attach another file and I select the second file and press ok. but then I see only a file under the attachments...
[14:21] <dobey> *sigh*
[14:23] <mike00> should I create a whole image with the two inside it?
[14:23] <dobey> ok, i obviously can't see what you are doing exactly, but you must be doing something wrong if the attachments aren't showing up. lp certainly supports multiple attachments
[14:39] <mike00> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1589533 it's ok this bug report?
[14:45] <dobey> yes that's unity8
[14:57] <mike00> ok thanks
[15:24] <grasstype> hello. What would I need to do to get the normal manpages installed in the CLI?
[15:24] <grasstype> so I can do man ls, or man less, etc
[15:25] <grasstype> oh please xchat, don't crash again
[15:26] <ogra_> use a chroot or a libertine container and install the respective packages
[15:27] <grasstype> ogra_, sorry, I meant in a chroot
[15:28] <grasstype> I got one set up, and I can already use basic commands
[15:28] <grasstype> but the default ones don't have manpages for some reason
[15:29] <grasstype> so I can't get anything for "man ls", for example
[15:29] <grasstype> the stuff I've installed myself works find, ie "man man" or "man gpp"
[15:29] <grasstype> fine*
[15:29] <ogra_> well, install the manpages, man-db and probably manpages-dev packages in your chroot then
[15:34] <grasstype> ogra_, xchat doesn't seem to like my keyboard. I couldn't pres the back key.. oh well. "manpages" and "manpages-dev" both installed. Still doesn't give me "man ls"
[15:35] <ogra_> grasstype, what about man-db ?
[15:35] <ogra_> (that carries the actual "man" binary)
[15:36] <grasstype> yeah, man is installed
[15:36] <JanC> grasstype: did you install coreutils inside the chroot?
[15:36] <grasstype> coreutils? don't think so
[15:37] <grasstype> says its already at newest version
[15:38] <ogra_> well, theoretically man-db should pull in everything it needs via deps
[15:38] <ogra_> Depends: groff-base (>= <IP_ADDRESS>-15), bsdmainutils, debconf (>= 1.2.0) | debconf-2.0, libc6 (>= 2.14), libgdbm3 (>= 1.8.3), libpipeline1 (>= 1.3.0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4)
[15:38] <ogra_> thats the deps list
[15:39] <grasstype> is there a way to see if that's setup correctly? I Don't see why it wouldn't be, but idk wtf I'm doin, so worth a shot
[15:44] <grasstype> hmm, just tried apt-get install --reinstall man-db , didn't change anything
[15:50] <grasstype> alright, put it up on askubuntu , so I guess I'll see where it goes
[15:52] <grasstype> this whole experience has been so educational!
[16:04] <dobey> huh
[16:06] <dobey> grasstype: how did you create the chroot exactly?
[16:08] <grasstype> dobey, a guide online, let me see if I can remember
[16:08] <dobey> 'man ls' certainly works here
[16:09] <grasstype> IIRC I used the chroot command, I did something with wget and "vivid-preinstalled-touch-armgh.tar.gz"
[16:10] <dobey> you did https://askubuntu.com/questions/620740/recommended-way-to-install-regularcli-deb-packages-on-ubuntu-phone/623311#623311 ?
[16:12] <grasstype> I didn't because I did it without a hose computer
[16:13] <grasstype> so no ppa, phablet-tools, or libertine stuff
[16:13] <dobey> the instructions in my answer there don't require a host computer
[16:13] <grasstype> oh sorry, just read the top post. Yeah, looks like I used the top one
[16:15] <dobey> grasstype: do you have the file /usr/share/man/man1/ls.1.gz inside your chroot?
[16:16] <grasstype> I evenin man1, there is no ls.1.gz
[16:16] <grasstype> nope
[16:17] <dobey> well then that's why "man ls" isn't working
[16:17] <dobey> so why are the files missing for you
[16:17] <grasstype> sweet
[16:17] <grasstype> I now know where it would be :) now.... why would it be missing
[16:18] <dobey> do 'apt-get install --reinstall coreutils' in the chroot, then try man ls again
[16:19] <mike00> hi there. if I have to report a bug for the phone call incoming on which package should report?
[16:19] <grasstype> sweet, there it is
[16:19] <grasstype> dobey, your'e my hero
[16:24] <mike00> The bug is: when you receive a call you can close the notifications swiping and than the phone continue to ring but you can't do nothing
[16:25] <mike00> Or is it reported yet? I searched but I didn't find nothing...
[16:26] <merpnderp> Is Canonical still pushing hard to get into the mobile phone business? And is the Meizu Pro 5 the only phone available in the US (if it comes back into stock)?
[16:26] <grasstype> merpnderp, looks like on both counts
[16:27] <merpnderp> grasstype: "on"?
[16:27] <merpnderp> You mean no?
[16:27] <grasstype> but last I chcked, the Meizu still isn't fully compatible with the us market, supports different channels for the LTE spectrum
[16:27] <grasstype> I meant "it", not sure how that happened
[16:28] <grasstype> oh, "looks like it on both counts"*
[16:29] <merpnderp> grasstype: okay thanks. Just want an Ubuntu phone that doesn't come with android.
[16:30] <grasstype> when I talked to ting about it, they said they can only guarantee 2g speeds, needs channels 2,4,or 12 I think, when they supported 1,3,7
[16:30] <merpnderp> Well that's a bummer
[16:30] <grasstype> same here. I ended up buying the m10 (what I'm not now) just because I couldn't get the phone that I could guarantee works
[16:30] <grasstype> on*
[16:31] <grasstype> google has been annoying me a lot more in the last few years, and apple, while OK, isn't someone I want ot hitch myself to
[16:39] <dobey> merpnderp: nexus 5 with ubuntu works (mostly) great
[16:43] <grasstype> I didn't see that the nexus 5 was supported... though they were avoiding that one
[16:44] <grasstype> anything not work on that?
[16:44] <dobey> the builds are from ubports.com
[16:44] <grasstype> oh... bluetooth it looks like... well that means no keyboard... eh
[16:44] <dobey> it's not "officially" supported like the nexus 4 or retail devices
[16:45] <dobey> eh, connecting a bt keyboard to my phone is way down on my list of things i need bluetooth for
[16:46] <dobey> if you want something that's a bit better supported than that, now, then a nexus4 is probably the next best option in the US
[16:48] <grasstype> I'm just waiting for an officially-supported preloaded one. Was really really close to buyign the meizu pro
[16:48] <grasstype> would have that instead of the m10, and still question my deciison sometimes
[16:49] <dobey> i'm waiting for a phone that's not the size of an oversized handbag
[16:51] <grasstype> lol, there is that too
[16:51] <grasstype> just got a really cheap iphone 4s from a coworker, it fits a single hand pretty well
[16:51] <dobey> even the z5 compact is no longer actually compact
[16:54] <grasstype> it's funny how phones keep getting bigger... wonder if it's just going to be huge phones for awhile now
[16:54] <dobey> appears so
[16:54] <grasstype> maybe once we get holographic floating interfaces like the movies of the late 90's...
[16:54] <dobey> until we all get corneal implants anyway
[16:54] <grasstype> lol. Future is google glass?
[16:56] <dobey> future is google probably buys a competitor to monsanto, and then we end up with "google grass"
[16:57] <dobey> and then they abandon the project 3 years later
[16:58] <grasstype> that could turn into a good thing, if google grass ever open sources their grass code
[16:59] <grasstype> gpl3 designer grass genetics
[17:02] <grasstype> on a brighter side, The Martian is now on HBO
[17:02] <grasstype> damn I love that movie
[17:03] <grasstype> and, whoever did www.linuxjourney.com did a great job
[17:31] <dobey> mariogrip: hey, btw, what happened to upgrading the recovery? :)
[17:37] <mariogrip> dobey: coming later, bt and 5.1 is more important atm
[17:38] <dobey> mariogrip: hmm, seems adb and ssh don't work on 5.1?
[17:39] <mariogrip> dobey: oh? I need to look into that, im using an open adb so that's might be why im getting adb
[17:39] <mariogrip> dobey: thanks for letting me know?
[17:39] <mariogrip> mhall119: forgot me?
[17:39] <ogra_> dobey, the manpages are actually wiped from the touch tarballs on purpose (together with all other documentation) ... so indeed grasstype can only find manpages for newly installed packages in the chroot
[17:40] <dobey> mariogrip: yeah, i can't seem to connect over adb or ssh after switching to that channel
[17:40] <dobey> ogra_: huh?
[17:40] <ogra_> (since he used the phone rootfs as input for his chroot)
[17:40] <dobey> ogra_: i'm pretty sure we don't delete files that are included in packages which are on the image
[17:40] <ogra_> dobey, i'm pretty sure i wrote the code for this ;)
[17:41] <ogra_> no, i lied, i only copied it from aciang :P
[17:41] <ogra_> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/trunk/view/head:/live-build/ubuntu-touch/hooks/99-remove-documentation.chroot
[17:41] <ogra_> (originally from some OEM team build tool)
[17:42] <dobey> *shrug*
[17:42] <dobey> that's awful
[17:42] <ogra_> there is no need for any commandline documentation on a phone
[17:42] <ogra_> and it saves plenty of megabytes
[17:43] <ogra_> people should perhaps rather use the ubuntu-base tarballs if they want a fully functional ubuntu chroot
[17:43] <dobey> yeah, no need for documentation, especially when we have a terminal app that we support, and allows people to use the command line
[17:44] <ogra_> dobey, well, maguro wouldnt have been possible with leaving the docs there (well, it would, but people would have ended up with not much space for data)
[17:44] <ogra_> thats a few 100 MB uncompressed
[17:44] <dobey> well, we never supported maguro with 15.04 :)
[17:45] <dobey> not sure what all exactly gets deleted there, but it seems like there are better things to delete, or better ways to solve explicit docs issues
[17:46] <ogra_> not really
[17:46] <ogra_> you could hire 50 people to split all documentation out of the packages and maintain a gigantic diff from debian though
[17:47] <ogra_> but then i guess if we hired 50 people we'd have something better to do for them ;)
[17:48] <dobey> well, i doubt /usr/share/man is where all those magical megabytes came from
[17:48] <dobey> anyway, whatever
[17:48] <dobey> switching to the 5.1 channel was not a great idea on this phone yet
[17:48] <ogra_> did you test aethercast yet ?
[17:49] <dobey> no, i don't have anything to test it with
[17:51] <dobey> mariogrip: do you get lots of screen tearing on 5.1 too?
[17:58] <dobey> wtf. why is system-image-cli --switch apparently hanged when i run it from the terminal app?
[18:07] <dobey> mariogrip: hmm, wifi doesn't seem to work for me either. it acts like it's connected, turning the AP name green in the indicator, but the main icon never changes, and route never changes :-/
[18:08] <dobey> but my dhcp server thinks its connected apparently.
[18:08] <dobey> so weird
[18:19] <mariogrip> mhall119: sorry, my laptop ran our of power.
[18:19] <dobey> mariogrip: also, does your nexus 5 only show a max of 50% battery on 5.1?
[18:19] <mariogrip> went from 5% to 0% in 30 seconds
[18:21] <mariogrip> dobey: wifi issues? it works fine for me. screen tearing i know about that. battery levels is unstable still
[18:21] <dobey> hmm
[18:22] <mariogrip> uploading an "more stable" version now
[18:23] <dobey> mariogrip: tip on the battery level; if it maxes out at 50%, it's probably the same issue that originally existed a couple years ago on nexus5 with 4.4, where there are two battery devices, and so indicator was showing exactly half of what it should be
[18:24] <mariogrip> dobey: oh, thanks for the tip :)
[18:25] <dobey> mariogrip: it seems like that might be the same issue, since after flashing the 5.1 image, my battery went from pretty high, down to like 34% despite being plugged in
[18:28] <dobey> yep. pretty sure that is it
[18:28] <dobey> flashed back to normal rc-proposed for now
[18:29] <dobey> hopefully this unity8 cpu eating bug gets fixed soon
[18:29] <mariogrip> yeah
[19:01] <mariogrip> dobey: did you get wifi working?
[19:02] <dobey> mariogrip: not on 5.1. i just flashed back to the 4.4 based rc-proposed
[19:02] <mariogrip> dobey: oh, ok. do you have wpa password on your wifi?
[19:03] <dobey> mariogrip: yes
[19:03] <mariogrip> I tried connecting to a password connected and i get this, wpa_supplicant[830]: wlan0: Authentication with [mac address] timed out. might be the same as you get.
[19:03] <dobey> maybe, i didn't dig too deep
[19:21] <_morphis> mariogrip: good work to get WiDi working on more devices
[19:22] <mariogrip> _morphis: thanks :)
[19:22] <_morphis> mariogrip: you will need https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/#/c/446/ in your tree even if its already Android 5.x
[19:22] <_morphis> mariogrip: and also the latest from https://git.launchpad.net/~libhybris-maintainers/libhybris/+git/libhybris/log/
[19:23] <_morphis> mariogrip: once you have that you're either lucky and things are performing well or somebody has to go deep and sort out existing performance issues
[19:25] <mariogrip> _morphis: oh ok, i'll do some more testing when i get my mircosoft device
[19:26] <_morphis> mariogrip: so does the video streaming work?
[19:26] <mariogrip> _morphis: I have no way of testing it, so i don't know
[19:27] <_morphis> you have
[19:27] <_morphis> mariogrip: install aethercast-tests
[19:27] <_morphis> and install aethercast-tools
[19:27] <_morphis> first one will install aethercast-integration-tests
[19:27] <_morphis> which will run https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/aethercast/trunk/view/head:/tests/mcs/integration_tests/test_stream_performance.cpp
[19:28] <_morphis> that will basically run the video encoding pipeline for 10 seconds an gives you some numbers how fast it is
[19:29] <_morphis> mariogrip: the other package installs mirscreencast_to_stream
[19:29] <dobey> _morphis: 0.1.0+git20151016+6d424c9-0ubuntu10~overlay1 should be new enough libhybris right? it's what's in the archive and shipped in ota11
[19:29] <_morphis> which is a small utility using the same pipeline to stream over any network
[19:29] <mhall119> mariogrip: no worries, I figured it was that :)
[19:29] <_morphis> run it with: mirscreencast_to_stream -r <remote ip> -p <pick one>
[19:30] <_morphis> mariogrip: before you start mirscreencast_to_stream run $ vlc -vvvv rtp://@:5000 --network-caching=250 on your PC
[19:30] <_morphis> and make sure you pick port 5000 on both sides
[19:30] <_morphis> that will give you the stream output in VLC
[19:30] <_morphis> if you have both devices on the same network
[19:31] <_morphis> dobey: should be
[19:31] <mhall119> _morphis: does aethercast need the microsoft widi dongle, or will it work with any* miracast compatible display
[19:31] <_morphis> dobey: yeah, 0.1.0+git20151016+6d424c9-0ubuntu9 brought the media-codec-canges
[19:31] <mhall119> * I know "any" is optimistic even in the best of times
[19:32] <_morphis> mhall119: technically it will work with any miracast device
[19:32] <_morphis> mhall119: but you know "any" is always unrealistic
[19:32] <_morphis> mhall119: so file a bug for any not working one
[19:32] <_morphis> mhall119: and don't expect all to perform equally
[19:32] <dobey> _morphis: ok, just wanted to clarify so we don't send mariogrip on a wild goose chase trying to patch in a libhybris that's different from what's already in the image, and sufficient for this :)
[19:32] <_morphis> the M$ is already the fastest on the market
[19:33] <_morphis> dobey: yeah
[19:34] <mariogrip> _morphis: thank, i'll give it a try
[19:34] <_morphis> mariogrip: ping me or drop me a mail if you have any problems
[20:36] <PaulFraOSAA> Updating to OTA11 now is it any good?
[20:36] <PaulFraOSAA> Too bad the AltGr problem will not be fixed untill OTA12 :(
[21:13] <MiguelC> hi guys, someone have info about port ubuntu for a HTC A9 ???
[21:16] <marklyford> anyone got any tips of second hand smart phones that work well with ubuntu touch ?
[21:19] <troyready> marklyford: I think the Nexus 4 is the default response for that
[21:19] <marklyford> thanks
[21:20] <marklyford> ill look into getting one :)
[22:00] <troyready> marklyford: it really is a great phone. More beautiful than the Nexus's to follow it IMHO, but hampered by its smaller screen and lack of LTE
[22:01] <marklyford> thanks @troyready
[22:02] <mterry> kenvandine, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1589711