[12:20] <hwdyki> how can i get kexec working on ubuntu (20.04)? i've tried kexec -l /boot/vmlinuz --initrd=/boot/initrd.im --reuse-cmdline, then systemctl kexec, but it still goes through the full reboot cycle.
[12:21] <hwdyki> the same commands work on debian 11.
[16:14] <saba> I'm trying to install MySQL 5.7 on Ubuntu 20.04 through the mysql-apt-config oracle official package, but 5.7 simply doesn't exist as an option, only 8.0. apt-cache policy also shows that only 8.0 exists. Every random tutorial shows that 5.7 should be an option on 20.04. Any ideas?
[16:17] <oerheks> 5.7 is last seen in Bionic https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.7
[16:18] <saba> oerheks: I use the MySQL official APT (https://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql-apt-repo-quick-guide/en/#apt-repo-fresh-install). The problem is that 5.7 *should* exist as an option but it doesnt
[16:19] <saba> oerheks: Not sure how to dig deeper into apt regarding this
[16:40] <tomreyn> saba: the package setting up the apt repositories does not enable the mysql-5.7 apt source on focal (20.04), which can mean that these packages are not supported there.
[17:44] <saba> tomreyn: I've come to the same conclusion and I've tried to edit the sources.list file but the mysql 5.7 component doesn't exist. What's weird is that many many random tutorials states that you should use the official APT and simply install 5.7 on 20.04. Official pages says nothing else
[17:45] <saba> Oracle official that is
[18:07] <oerheks> saba, what 'random tutorials'? installing the package from oracle does not give support here, AFAIK.
[18:09] <oerheks> even the famous ondrej ppa does not give 5.7 https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php?field.series_filter=focal
[18:09] <tomreyn> mysql is not php
[18:09] <oerheks> oops
[18:10]  * oerheks facepalms
[18:11] <tomreyn> but, saba, it's really up to you what you do or don't do with third party packages, and where you get your support from for those.
[18:15] <tomreyn> there is also mariadb, if you're not worried about going 'off track' - https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb-vs-mysql-compatibility/#drop-in-compatibility-of-specific-mariadb-versions https://mariadb.org/download/?t=repo-config&d=20.04+%22focal%22
[18:17] <tomreyn> percona mysql server is yet another option
[18:17] <tomreyn> the more terrible the original distribution becomes, the wider grows the alternatives ecosystem


[00:05] <Kangarooo> is possible with one IDE conect to LP to login search projects dl project make change to new/existing branch upload change make commit see other ppl work. work together the same time? auto see diff when others work?
[00:16] <humphreybc> hi chaps, take a look at this please
[00:16] <humphreybc> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/launchpad-translator-communication
[00:18] <wgrant> humphreybc: It's Saturday night in Europe -- Translations people are much more likely to be around during the European working day.
[00:18] <humphreybc> fair nuff'
[00:18] <wgrant> KDesk: What's your Launchpad username?
[00:18] <humphreybc> i'll see if I can catch them next week
[00:19] <humphreybc> if you know of anyone going to UDS who this would pertain to, could you subscribe them?
[00:19] <KDesk> wgrant: it is g-christ
[00:20] <wgrant> KDesk: And you're sure the changes file is signed with 0D6E38AA?
[00:20] <wgrant> humphreybc: I would recommend filing a bug rather than using a blueprint just yet; they have comments and will actually notify people.
[00:21] <KDesk> wgrant: yes, I did use this: debuild -S -sa -k0D6E38AA
[00:21] <humphreybc> wgrant: ah that's probably a good idea
[00:21] <humphreybc> is it under the rosetta package?
[00:21] <humphreybc> ah "Launchpad Translations"
[00:22] <wgrant> humphreybc: The rosetta project, right.
[00:22] <wgrant> KDesk: And you're sure you uploaded to ftp://ppa.launchpad.net/g-christ/ppa/ubuntu?
[00:24] <KDesk> wgrant: i did: dput my-ppa phonon-backend-vlc_0.0+git20100417-5aa4fb2c-1-ppa1_source.changes   my  .dout.cf file has this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/416372/
[00:24] <humphreybc> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/565668
[00:26] <wgrant> KDesk: I'd recommend returning some time during the week, when people with log access will be around.
[00:26] <KDesk> ok wgrant, thank you for your time!
[00:58] <goundy> Hi
[00:58] <goundy> guys, no news about lp wiki support ?
[02:24] <sproaty> just noticed the auto export as .mo functionality for translatinos. Is there a way this can generate the mo from the pos in a given branch?
[02:25] <sproaty> seems to indicate currently that it imports all MOs from the branch -- I want it to import my POs and create the MOs from there
[04:05] <Lachesis> Hello. Is anybody else having trouble adding or editing OpenPGP keys in launchpad?
[04:06] <wgrant> Lachesis: What happens when you try?
[04:07] <Lachesis> wgrant: I never receive the email they claim to send me.
[04:07] <wgrant> Lachesis: Which page are you usinG?
[04:08] <Lachesis> https://launchpad.net/~eswanson/+editpgpkeys
[04:08] <Lachesis> hold on, i might have trouble with my mail host
[04:14] <Lachesis> yeah, i think that was it
[04:14] <keturn> Lachesis: earlier today I got an error page on launchpad when adding a key
[04:14] <Lachesis> sorry to bother you
[04:14] <keturn> I then tried edge and it worked okay
[04:15] <Lachesis> it seems to be a bit finicky -- if your fingerprint isn't on the Ubuntu keyserver, it throws an unintelligible error
[04:15] <Lachesis> also, if you've just canceled validation, it takes a few seconds to clear the fingerprint
[10:23] <kermiac> is there any known issues with launchpad atm? I'm trying to mark a bug as private for another member of bug control but it keeps timing out for both of us
[10:23] <kermiac> i disabled edge redirect, but there was no change
[10:24] <wgrant> kermiac: Which bug?
[10:24] <kermiac> wgrant: bug 562259
[10:25] <kermiac> ddecater (from bug control) just asked me to try setting it to private for him as it was timing out.
[10:26] <wgrant> That may be because of the large number of structural subscriptions.
[10:27] <wgrant> Since as of $NOT_VERY_LONG_AGO, each subscription probably sends an email from the appserver.
[10:27]  * wgrant tries.
[10:29] <kermiac> yes, could be... anything we can do about it apart from simply deleting the coredump, setting as invalid & asking the reporter to file a new private bug?
[10:30] <geser> does somebody have an idea why LP informs me about an translation template import I didn't do? neither were the source packages uploaded recently
[10:32] <wgrant> geser: Probably the bug where translations from the rebuild archive are being inappropriately uploaded.
[10:32] <wgrant> It's fixed in trunk, but I'm not sure if it's on production yet.
[10:33] <kermiac> wgrant: it timed out for you too?
[10:36] <geser> wgrant: sounds like it, the timestamps when the copy archive build finished match the ones mentioned in that mails
[10:40] <kermiac> thanks for trying anyway wgrant :)
[13:14] <Kangarooo> is possible with one IDE conect to LP to login search projects dl project make change to new/existing branch upload change make commit see other ppl work. work together the same time? auto see diff when others work?
[13:15] <Kangarooo> so in other words- IDE with witch easy start developing some of LP project?
[14:17] <Phurl> hey
[14:17] <Phurl> where can i see the ppa packages i dput?
[14:22] <Phurl> Already uploaded to ppa on ppa.launchpad.net
[14:22] <Phurl> Doing nothing for traindirector_0.1-1_i386.changes
[14:36] <geser> Phurl: you need to upload *_source.changes which you get when you only build the source package (debuild -S)
[14:36] <Phurl> i got it
[14:36] <Phurl> thanks
[14:36] <Phurl> i got a mail
[16:57] <donri> How do I upload a source archive?
[17:01] <donri> Found it, sorry.
[17:04] <RoboTux> Hi
[17:05] <RoboTux> I have a problem creating my launchpad account, should I tell you my problem there or send an email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[17:14] <nigelb> RoboTux, if its something one of the volunteers can help, you can say it here
[17:16] <RoboTux> I think so
[17:16] <RoboTux> No, in fact I don't know
[17:16] <RoboTux> Well, I tried creating an account but the email I get doesn't give me a validation link
[17:17] <RoboTux> Instead, it says I may have forgotten my password, as if the account already exist
[17:18] <RoboTux> I tried resetting the password but then it says me that launchpad can't reset password for a deactivated account
[17:18] <RoboTux> So I feel myself a bit deadlocked :)
[17:19] <nigelb> RoboTux, ah, so you're account seems to be deactivated.  You need to ask someone tomorrow (EU working hours have a good chance of someone being here).
[17:19] <nigelb> i.e. someone who can look into it
[17:25] <RoboTux> Ok
[17:25] <RoboTux> Should I ask here ?
[17:26] <nigelb> yes
[17:28] <RoboTux> Ok thanks
[17:28] <RoboTux> But in the mean time, maybe you could help me
[17:28] <RoboTux> I'd like to mark a bug as existing in Debian
[17:29] <RoboTux> I would take just a second to do it, could you make it ?
[17:29] <nigelb> bug #?
[17:29] <RoboTux> The debian bug is #549100
[17:29] <nigelb> and ubuntu bug?
[17:29] <RoboTux> and ubuntu bug: #500296
[17:30] <nigelb> debian bug 549100 ubuntu bug 500296
[17:30] <RoboTux> ubottu: You're fast
[17:30] <RoboTux> Oh, a bot, nice :)
[17:31] <nigelb> done.  check Ubuntu bug now :)
[17:32] <RoboTux> Thanks
[17:32] <nigelb> thank you for pointing it out :)
[17:32] <RoboTux> Perfect
[17:32] <RoboTux> You're welcome
[17:32] <RoboTux> And I have a last question
[17:33] <RoboTux> How does sync works between Debian and Ubuntu ?
[17:33] <nigelb> package syncs?
[17:33] <RoboTux> Yep
[17:34] <RoboTux> I added a LP: entry in the package to close the Ubuntu bug but how much time will it take for the package to get into Ubuntu ?
[17:35] <nigelb> Before the import freeze, new versions of packages will be automatically imported from Debian unstable where they have not been customized for Ubuntu, that is when the version number of the package in the current Ubuntu development branch does not contain the substring "ubuntu" and there is a newer version in Debian. Entirely new packages (those not in Ubuntu at all) are also automatically imported prior to this date. The import is done by copying
[17:35] <nigelb>  the source package verbatim from Debian and building fresh binary packages on the Ubuntu autobuilders.
[17:35] <nhandler> RoboTux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess (keep in mind, we are pretty frozen right now in preparation for lucid)
[17:35] <nigelb> so, it will enter maverick quite easily.  Lucid, well, slim chances.
[17:38] <RoboTux> Yeah, it's not really a critical package :)
[17:39] <nigelb> In that case, you can just put into a PPA
[17:41] <RoboTux> I prefer to leave it up to Ubuntu people
[17:42] <RoboTux> Maybe nobody is interested in that upload (except the submitter of the bug)
[17:44] <nigelb> well, I see its already in a PPA
[17:45] <RoboTux> I doubt this is the exact same package :)
[19:04] <nhandler> What is the reasoning behind forcing people to sign the CoC before being able to use PPAs? Most of the stuff in the CoC is not really applicable imo.
[19:07] <hyperair> nhandler: what isn't applicable? i think there needs to at least be some terms and conditions that basically say "i won't use the PPA to screw people over"
[19:08] <nhandler> hyperair: I agree with that. Along with some info about respecting copyrights and stuff like that. But I think it would be better for everyone if LP simply forced you to read and check a box saying you accept the terms of use for PPAs.
[19:09] <hyperair> nhandler: why so?
[19:09] <hyperair> nhandler: they're going to need a GPG key either way.
[19:10] <nhandler> hyperair: I just had a DD trying to build a package for Ubuntu. The CoC is what caused him not to use a PPA
[19:10] <hyperair> nhandler: heh? really? exactly what about this CoC goes against his principles?
[19:10] <hyperair> nhandler: it is really that hard to say "i'll be nice to everyone, i won't screw people over" ?
[19:12] <nhandler> That isn't what it says
[19:13]  * hyperair re-reads the CoC
[19:16] <hyperair> nhandler: so... which part is it that is so hard to agree with?
[20:25] <ddecator> i've been trying to mark a bug private for a few days now, and every time i try it times out. i had someone else try last night and they had the same issue. happens in Firefox, Chrome, and Opera. not sure if others are running into this with other bug reports or not
[21:09] <goundy> hi
[21:09] <goundy> guys, no news about lp wiki support ?
[21:09] <idnar> that's bug #240067 I believe
[21:10] <nhandler> hyperair: You're asking the wrong person ;) I've agreed to it. But it is an extra hassle to have to download sign and upload the CoC to be able to build a package.
[21:11] <hyperair> nhandler: i suppose it is.
[21:47] <lfaraone> Can anybody who's interested in maintaining project entries in Launchpad join ~registry?
[21:47] <sinzui> lfaraone, no, the registry is a group with some special permissions
[21:49] <sinzui> lfaraone, I hope to land changes in the next two months that will make membership in the group irrelevant. Community members should have permission to update projects that are common to many communities
[21:50] <sinzui> lfaraone, This will also fix another problem where the project is not owned by ~registry, but communities need to fix the project information
[21:51] <sinzui> lfaraone, what problems do you want to fix?
[21:53] <lfaraone> sinzui: there's nothing particular at the moment, I just often create LP projects for upstream projects, assign them to registry, and occasionally want to go fix something.
[21:53] <sinzui> yes, that is the reason I want to change the rules for updating projects
[21:54] <sinzui> In general, if the project is owned the ~registry, a community should be permitted to update the information, and if the project is owned by someone else, community members can provide missing information.
[21:55]  * sinzui has been adding license info to ~registry project for the last 7 hours
[21:58] <sinzui> lfaraone, until the permissions are fixed, you are welcome to suggest fixes via answers or ping me. You may also take ownership of a project if you like.
[21:59] <lfaraone> sinzui: okay, thanks.
[23:53] <persia> So, both buttercup and crabapple appear to be building openoffice.org, but different versions.  is there any way to halt a build-in-process once it becomes superceded, or is that only manual?


[11:54] <ikt> hey guys
[11:54] <ikt> if anyones interested
[11:54] <ikt> http://ventraip.com.au/blog/announcements/happy-5th-birthday-to-us/
[11:54] <ikt> 555 Free Trustwave EasyTrust SSL.s: That.s not a typo. We will be giving away 555 free Trustwave EasyTrust SSL certificates sometime this month. We.ll be letting all of our customers know when and where this offer will take place by email very soon.
[12:09] <jea> ikt: are you affiliated with ventraip?
[13:25] <ikt> jea: nah
[13:25] <ikt> free trustwave certificates though!
[13:52] <jea> ikt: yeah, they are attractive. VentraIP are really good
[13:54] <ikt> i got a call from their ceo once, it's a little bad I didn't realise at the time
[13:54] <ikt> i didn't know our company had anything to do with them
[14:29] <jea> hopefully you left a good impression, nonetheless
[14:44] <ikt> i don't think he was too concerned, as his voip system had come down and they couldn't make or recieve calls
[14:44] <ikt> got it working though
[14:44] <ikt> so #winning
[14:47] <jea> ah, so you work in communications. cool
[14:51] <jea> I'm heading off, see you later
[16:15] <gggs> oh cool, have a domain with VentraIP


[01:09] <Phoenixz> I am in Mexico, but I always have my computer in English. I just used system settings - locale to specify that I am actually in mexico, and added spanish as a secondary language, and now all of the sudden, all my bash is in Spanish.. Why is this, and how can I revert this? I have spanish as secondary language, so I do not see why bash is in spanish...
[02:27] <Phoenixz> I am in Mexico, but I always have my computer in English. I just used system settings - locale to specify that I am actually in mexico, and added spanish as a secondary language, and now all of the sudden, all my bash is in Spanish.. Why is this, and how can I revert this? I have spanish as secondary language, so I do not see why bash is in spanish...
[07:27] <protoss1976> Buon giorno a tutti
[07:56] <noaXess> hey all
[07:56] <noaXess> for kdialg, if i use it for a app to select files... how can i filter filetypes? so i can eg. only choose images files?
[08:36] <protoss1976_> Bgg a tutti
[08:41] <haotaer_> 这东西怎么玩的
[08:44] <protoss1976> Qualcuno mi può aiutare? ho un problemino
[08:50] <hateball> !it
[08:52] <protoss1976> thank's
[09:16] <Vorbis> deluser AlaBell
[11:10] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:36] <ppawel> anyone using saucy and having problems after latest package updates with network manager widget (can't connect to wifi/vpn)?
[11:40] <BluesKaj> ppawel:  best to ask about saucy in #ubuntu+1
[11:40] <ppawel> BluesKaj, ok thanks
[11:44] <BluesKaj> was trying to change .ts video file from it's wrapper to mpg with avconv, but the stream seems to be corrupted
[14:38] <mparillo> ppawel: Funny, I had the exact opposite problem.  I had problems with the NM Applet, but a fresh install resolved them. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1220967
[14:38] <ppawel> mparillo, thanks for the info. there is something more wrong with my install - kwallet does not even remember my ssh key password
[14:39] <ppawel> I think it's related to kwallet somehow
[14:41] <ppawel> strange because it started today.. after kde packages were updated to 4.11.2
[14:42] <mparillo> ppawel: There was some discussion where kwallet required repeated authentication in 13.10, but I cannot find a bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kwallet Perhaps it was reported upstream.
[14:42] <ppawel> mparillo, thanks, I am looking through the bugs now
[14:42] <mparillo> Sorry I could not help.
[14:43] <ppawel> mparillo, don't worry, it's ok. I am used to things breaking
[14:43] <ppawel> I have been using archlinux with testing repository enabled for 5 years :)
[14:43] <ppawel> only recently I switched to kubuntu
[14:45] <ppawel> anyway, something is really really wrong - when I enter "ksshaskpass" then I get a prompt for my wallet password BUT THE PASSWORD IS ALREADY FILLED IN!!!
[14:46] <ppawel> this is very risky that my wallet password is stored somewhere
[14:48] <javierito> hello all
[14:48] <mparillo> ppawel: Tonight (in eight hours or so), I expect to get my 4.11.2 updates, and I will watch for that and report here. But, until then, I am using a live USB.
[14:48] <javierito> have achanel for networking and servers?
[14:48] <ppawel> mparillo, ok good luck
[14:49] <mparillo> ppawel: Same to you.
[14:49] <mparillo> javierito: 	#ubuntu-server ?
[14:50] <javierito> mmm not is linux, only talk about one strange configuration i view today
[14:50] <javierito> and i dont understand that configuration
[15:50] <Xerofyte>  I just Installed KDE SC 4.11 on my Ubunu 12.04 LTS. And when I rebooted my machine. There was no KDE Plasma Workspace in the Sessions on my Login Screen?
[15:53] <Xerofyte>  I just Installed KDE SC 4.11 on my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. And when I rebooted my machine. There was no KDE Plasma Workspace in the Sessions on my Login Screen?
[16:00] <Xerofyte>  I just Installed KDE SC 4.11 on my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. And when I rebooted my machine. There was no KDE Plasma Workspace in the Sessions on my Login Screen?
[17:24] <wafflejock> anyone here installed Node.js?
[20:32] <ovidiu-florin> wafflejock: I did once, some time ago
[20:32] <ovidiu-florin> what's the problem?
[21:30] <et__> ciao
[21:30] <et__> !list
[21:42] <et__> ciao
[21:42] <et__> !list
[21:48] <pinotu> ciao
[21:48] <pinotu> !list
[21:50] <pinotu> ! list
[21:50] <Unit193> pinotu: Dude read the text, no warez.
[21:50] <pinotu> !list
[22:05] <pinotu> ciao
[22:05] <pinotu> !list
[22:35] <Roey> thelionroars:  see the movie "Four Lions"
[22:35] <thelionroars> I've seen it
[22:36] <thelionroars> sorry, I wasn't impressed
[22:41] <Roey> not even the scene with the party bomb
[22:41] <Roey> thelionroars:  ^
[22:41] <thelionroars> no
[22:42] <thelionroars> it's one of those movies where things happen so that certain stars can do or say certain things
[22:42] <thelionroars> at my age I'm more interested in good characterisation and plot
[22:52] <Roey> ah
[22:52] <Roey> thelionroars:  understood.
 it's one of those movies where things happen so that certain stars can do or say certain things
[22:52] <Roey> you mean like Snakes on a Plane?
[22:57] <thelionroars> one I've never seen, but I suppose :)
[23:12] <Xerofyte> Just install KDE and Its Awesome. How Can I add Widgets to the desktop? I also tried to Install some widgets but they do not appear in the widgets list :(
[23:37] <wafflejock> ovidiu-florin: sorry was out for a bit actually hopped in on the node.js channel and got some help thx though


[08:04] <dholbach> good morning
[16:22] <dholbach> highvoltage, thanks a lot for the flowers!
[16:23] <highvoltage> hmm...
[16:23] <highvoltage> dholbach: I'm afraid I'm not aware of any flowers
[16:24] <dholbach> wie? was?
[16:24] <dholbach> err, sorry
[16:24] <highvoltage> was nie ek nie
[16:24] <dholbach> highvoltage, I was referring about the compliments :)
[16:25] <highvoltage> aaaaaaaaaaah, *those* flowers
[16:25] <highvoltage> you're welcome :)
[16:25] <dholbach> :-D
[16:25]  * dholbach hugs highvoltage
[16:25] <highvoltage> *hugs*
[17:29] <dholbach> highvoltage, woah, nice work - shcooltool is installable now
[17:29] <dholbach> we should blog about it
[17:29] <dholbach> I'll mail the ngo list tomorrow
[17:31] <dholbach> it installs like<PHONE_NUMBER>6 packages, but still, it installs :-D
[18:47] <highvoltage> dholbach: whohoo! nice.


[04:33] <micahg> cjohnston: which patch?
[07:17] <siretart> Adri2000: fixed libav arrived in experimental, please try again
[07:27] <Quintasan> \o
[13:10] <Adri2000> siretart: the dependency problems with libavcodec54 disappeared, libavutil51 and 52 are still both installed, and it fails for the same reason in the end :( http://adrishost.net/~adri2000/debian/actionaz-experimental-libav-ftbfs2-buildog.txt
[13:11] <siretart> Adri2000: uh sh*t. i guess you found something serious here. let me investigate more
[13:16] <siretart> Adri2000: what package is this?
[13:21] <siretart> Adri2000: I don't get this. there is no occurance of  ff_sqrt_tab in libavcodec53. still your build log bitches about this. please investiage what exactly requires ff_sqrt_tab@LIBAVUTIL_51.
[13:24] <Adri2000> siretart: package is actionaz, and I'm trying to build the version in http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/actionaz.git;a=summary (latest master)
[13:24] <Adri2000> (or latest commit in 'debian' branch, rather)
[13:27] <Adri2000> # objdump -T /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavcodec.so.53 | grep sqrt
[13:27] <Adri2000><PHONE_NUMBER>000000      DO *UND*<PHONE_NUMBER>000000  LIBAVUTIL_51 ff_sqrt_tab
[13:28] <Adri2000> siretart: that's what I have in my pbuilder-experimental, after installing libavcodec53
[13:31] <siretart> Adri2000: uh right, now I see what's going on
[13:31] <siretart> Adri2000: the problem is  libavutil51_6:9~beta1-1
[13:31] <siretart> that version is known to be broken, and has been superseeded by libavutil52
[13:32] <siretart> fortunately, the is also NBS, so ftp-master can safely remove it. your package should be able to build again once that happened
[13:32] <siretart> Adri2000: please poke debian's ftp-master to NBS libavutil51_6:9~beta1-1 in experimental. that should do the trick
[13:36] <Adri2000> siretart: ok, will do that, thanks for the help
[23:36] <mikodo> Can we please have Potamus back in the repos. I have it in 10.04 very nice. It is not in 12.04  Here it is  http://offog.org/code/potamus.html     Thanks!
[23:44] <TheLordOfTime> mikodo, research shows it was removed in Debian: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=615644
[23:45] <TheLordOfTime> MOTU want to shed light on whether the same reason was why its not in Ubuntu?
[23:45] <TheLordOfTime> (and AFAICT, it does have alternatives in the repos, and a good number of them)
[23:46] <ajmitch> same reason, removals from debian are usually done in universe as well
[23:46] <TheLordOfTime> that's what i thought, but i wasn't sure ;)
[23:46] <ajmitch> you can see it on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/potamus/+publishinghistory
[23:46] <TheLordOfTime> E: timeout :/
[23:46] <ajmitch> wfm
[23:47] <TheLordOfTime> ah there it is.
[23:47] <TheLordOfTime> Removal requested on 2011-05-05. | Deleted on 2011-05-05 by Steve Langasek | (From Debian) RoQA; orphaned, unused, alternatives exist; Debian bug (see above lines here on IRC)
[23:48] <ajmitch> basically it got no love in debian & noone stepped up to maintain it
[23:48] <TheLordOfTime> makes sense to me :P
[23:48] <TheLordOfTime> and they are right though: there's a TON of alternatives
[23:48] <TheLordOfTime> s/TON/lot/
[23:51] <mikodo> Hey guys thanks for the info. I have never compiled. Should I try, or by it not being maintained does it mean it might be buggy now and might not be worth the effort?
[23:51] <TheLordOfTime> mikodo, upstream seems maintained...
[23:52] <mikodo> TheLordOfTime,  So, might be worth my effort then. Thanks
[23:52] <TheLordOfTime> potamus-14.tar.gz	06-Dec-2012 13:52 	159K <-- latestupload on thier site
[23:52] <TheLordOfTime> and yes, they have directory listing on
[23:52] <TheLordOfTime> i should slap them for that...
[23:52] <TheLordOfTime> since that's insecure...
[23:52] <TheLordOfTime> mikodo, i'd just build it from source by hand, i agree with the debian bug that there's a good number of alternatives which exist.
[23:53] <TheLordOfTime> and since its kinda not in debian, well... :P)
[23:53]  * TheLordOfTime shifts attention back to figuring out why apt-mirror's timing out on mirroring from the regional archive.
[23:53] <TheLordOfTime> s/regional archive/regional mirrors/
[23:53] <mikodo> TheLordOfTime, I like it and I am going to build for the learning exp.
[23:54] <zequence> 26
[23:54] <TheLordOfTime> have fun mikodo
[23:54] <mikodo> TheLordOfTime, Thx. buddy
[23:55] <TheLordOfTime> hmm.... i should probably ask in -server, but have any of you ever had apt-mirror fail to mirror from a regional mirror, whereas the system its on is able to apt-get update/apt-get upgrade from the same server that apt-mirror's trying to mirror?


[00:01] <bazhang> Kendalja, unetbootin
[00:01] <bazhang> unetbootin.sourceforge.net for windows, in the repos for ubuntu
[00:01] <Kendalja> I am in windows 7
[00:01] <bazhang> Kendalja, see above
[00:02] <Kendalja> I used unetbootin
[00:02] <Kendalja> but got an error
[00:02] <bazhang> then md5 the iso
[00:02] <bazhang> and 'reburn'
[00:02] <Kendalja> no an error when I booted
[00:02] <Kendalja> :P
[00:02] <penguin42> what error?
[00:02] <bazhang> I know. md5 it
[00:03] <Kendalja> I will run again and see
[00:03] <penguin42> Kendalja: I've not used unetbootin (I've only done it from Linux) but if it gives an option to store persistent data, turn it off
[00:04] <Kendalja> ok
[00:04] <Kendalja1> on other machine here
[00:04] <Kendalja1> so when it finishes I can still talk
[00:04] <Kendalja1>  :P
[00:06] <Kendalja1> finishing up now going to reboot
[00:08] <Kendalja1> says default when I first boot
[00:08] <Kendalja1> then I get "no init found. Try passing init = bootarg.
[00:08] <Kendalja1> "
[00:08] <penguin42> Kendalja1: Does it say anything above that?
[00:08] <Kendalja1> and Inope
[00:09] <Kendalja1> nope
[00:09] <Kendalja1> BusyBox v1.15.3
[00:09] <Kendalja1> I am at a prompt
[00:10] <Kendalja1> think I might have it...
[00:10] <Kendalja1> or not
[00:10] <Kendalja1> lol
[00:10] <bazhang> Kendalja1, what file system did you choose
[00:10] <penguin42> sounds like something related to etiher your iso download or the unetbootin thing, I've had a 32bit 10.10 beta usb thumb work OK for me today but that was written from Maverick
[00:10] <Kendalja1> ah
[00:11] <bazhang> the alternate cd did that for me as well
[00:11] <bazhang> choosing btrfs
[00:11] <Kendalja1> should I redownload the netbook iso?
[00:11] <bazhang> md5 it
[00:13] <Kendalja1> hmmm
[00:13] <Kendalja1> in the dropdown for unetbootin there is no option for 10.10
[00:13] <Kendalja1> Daily_Live?
[00:18] <Kendalja1> ??
[00:19] <penguin42> Which iso did you download?
[00:19] <Kendalja1> ubuntu-10.10-beta-netbook-i386
[00:20] <penguin42> sounds reasonable (not tried netbook myself but still)
[00:20] <bazhang> !md5
[00:22] <Kendalja1> md5 checks out
[00:22] <Kendalja1> I will try again and if not then I will download again....
[00:25] <penguin42> if md5sum says it's right it's right
[00:25] <Kendalja1> hmmm
[00:25] <Kendalja1> rebooting again
[00:26] <Kendalja1> when I boot to usb I get two options
[00:26] <Kendalja1> Default and ...back
[00:26] <penguin42> not sure what that is
[00:27] <Kendalja1> wtf
[00:28] <Kendalja1> I will re d/l
[00:32] <Kendalja> I will try 10.04 instead
[00:32] <Kendalja> instead of beta
[00:32] <Kendalja> :P
[00:51] <Lars_G> Has anybody noticed merkat significatively slower than Lucid on netbooks?
[00:51] <Lars_G> is it debugging suymbols? or simply nos being larger?
[00:51] <penguin42> someone before was having speed issues (not sure if it was netbooks)
[00:51] <Lars_G> Netbook UI 3d, Netbook UI 2d and kde for netbooks are all slower, larger.
[00:51] <penguin42> what type of thing?
[00:52] <Lars_G> let's see my cpu
[00:52] <Lars_G> Ok both cores are working, and speed's not reduced so it's not that
[00:54] <Lars_G> An offside comment. how do I change daemons run in each initlevel with upstart?
[00:55] <bazhang> is there method to remove the "sync with Ubuntu One' in the nautilus folder views?
[01:24] <duffydack> yeah
[01:24] <duffydack> hide ribbons?
[01:25] <bazhang> okay thanks
[01:25] <duffydack> sorry for long response lol
[01:26] <bazhang> just installed it, sorry for the laziness in not searching it out myself
[01:26] <duffydack> i`m not booted in it at the mo.. just something about ribbons...
[01:26] <Kendalja> hey
[01:27] <bazhang> okay,will research. much appreciated duffydack
[01:27] <bazhang> Kendalja, hi
[01:27] <Kendalja> trying to install ubuntu
[01:27] <Kendalja> :P
[01:28] <bazhang> Kendalja, unetbootin still failing?
[01:29] <Kendalja> well I am downloading 10.04
[01:29] <duffydack> gujin ftw
[01:29] <Kendalja> dl wont finish
[01:29] <Kendalja> says 700mb of 700mb
[01:29] <Kendalja> but sill going
[01:30] <duffydack> in browser?
[01:30] <Kendalja> fingers crossed
[01:30] <Kendalja> :P
[01:30] <Kendalja> yeah
[01:30] <Kendalja> making it now
[01:30] <Kendalja> bootable flash drive
[01:31] <duffydack> I skip this part and just cat the iso across.. its just easier when working with changeable isos all the time
[01:31] <Kendalja> ah
[01:32] <duffydack> I trust cat iso more than unetbootin or other program.
[01:33] <duffydack> Kendalja, did you md5sum the iso first?
[01:34] <Kendalja> yep
[01:34] <Kendalja> trying again now
[01:34] <Kendalja> rebooting
[01:34] <Kendalja> :P
[01:35] <Kendalja> got it!
[01:35] <Kendalja> :P
[01:35] <Kendalja> loading live version now off usb
[01:35] <Kendalja> should run on a netbook ok eh?
[01:35] <duffydack> sure
[01:37] <bazhang> Kendalja, sure. if 10.04 hop back to #ubuntu for support though, please
[01:38] <Kendalja> this is for 10.10?
[01:38] <bazhang> yep
[01:38] <bazhang> thus the +1
[01:38] <Kendalja> ahh
[01:38] <bazhang> :)
[01:38] <Kendalja> can I upgrade to 10.10 later?
[01:39] <bazhang> of course you can
[01:39] <Kendalja> cool
[01:39] <Kendalja> thanks for the help thus far guys
[01:39] <Kendalja> :p
[01:39] <bazhang> hehe
[02:15] <Sir_Brizz> wtfh happened to the sun java package in 10.10?
[02:28] <Quutar> hello... I am running 10.10 desktop on an acer revo (aton cpu, ion gpu) with the nvidia restricted drivers...
[02:29] <Quutar> how do I make it so that my gui, mouse, etc... are resitrcted to display :0.1 with out taking down my :0.0 display?
[02:29] <Quutar> I basically want one monitor to be the target output of mplayer, with all of my gui on the second monitor
[02:30] <Quutar> and while i can do that now... the "second" monitor (:0.0) has all the normal gui trappings, a menu, etc... and my mouse can wonder over to it
[02:30] <Pici> a/24
[02:32] <Quutar> huh?
[02:33] <bazhang> Quutar, likely an irssi mistab
[02:35] <Quutar> well... i installed 10.10 ... installed the nvidia binary drivers... did a system update with apt-get and then in the nvidia driver gui i enabled the second monitor (not with twin view, each as a seperate display)
[02:35] <bjsnider> Sir_Brizz, that is normally added to the parter repo upon the actual release instead of during the dev cycle
[02:35] <Sir_Brizz> okay that makes sense
[02:35] <Sir_Brizz> I just used the id version for now
[02:35] <Quutar> so all that part is working.... now i want to do something "wierd" and don't know how
[02:35] <Sir_Brizz> lucid*
[02:38] <Quutar> basically... i want my user experiance to be limited to one of my two monitors... while the second monitor be the targeted output of mplayer "DISPLAY=:0.0 mplayer file.mp4"
[02:55] <Quutar> meow? anything... does what I want to do sound possible... i am told by people more knoledgeable about linux that I it is possible, they just don't know how
[03:22] <coz_> ah oh I just found that I cannot compile my alsa driver without errors  on maverick....ooo I have to look into this one
[03:27] <crimsun_> coz_: eh?
[03:27] <crimsun_> coz_: why do you need to compile your alsa driver, anyhow? :)
[03:27] <coz_> crimsun_,  well...although pulseaudio now recognizes my card for the first time
[03:28] <coz_> crimsun_,  it wont work with games and a few other applications  so
[03:28] <coz_> I compile it since there is alsa a mixer specifically for my card in the repositories
[03:28] <coz_> but on maverick it will not compile   I will have to try again to see what the errors are exactly
[03:29] <crimsun_> coz_: sorry, but I'm having problems parsing your previous sentence.
[03:29] <crimsun_> what does "since there is alsa a mixer" mean?
[03:29] <crimsun_> coz_: sorry, but I'm having problems parsing your previous sentence.
[03:29] <crimsun_> what does "since there is alsa a mixer" mean?
[03:30] <coz_> crimsun_,  one for echoaudio cards
[03:30] <voidmage> where did the samba right click->share in nautilus move to?
[03:31] <crimsun_> coz_: are you saying it isn't available in l-a-d-m available from https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=maverick ?
[03:31] <crimsun_> ah, I'll fix that ftbfs
[03:31] <coz_> crimsun_,    well I havent tried the ppa
[03:32] <voidmage> is it missing for anyone else?
[03:32] <coz_> crimsun_,  but I prefer compiling the driver ...it works far better than pulseaudio for me   so far anyway
[03:33] <crimsun_> coz_: mmkay, but that isn't really going to help us fix pulse [if there is something broken with pulse]
[03:34] <coz_> crimsun_,  this is true  ok  I will reinstall at some point...maverick...and go from there
[03:38] <coz_> I havent gone "pro audio" on linux yet anyway  so its not really absolutely important but I will eventually and for me.to do that .. I will most likely only want the compiled driver
[03:39] <bjsnider> coz_, what's an echoaudio card? is it a particularly odious piece of crap or something good or somewhere in between?
[03:40] <coz_> bjsnider,  pretty much a pro audio card
[03:40] <bjsnider> so it's worth all the trouble?
[03:40] <coz_> bjsnider,  oh yeah for me it is indeed :)
[03:40] <coz_> bjsnider,    http://www.echoaudio.com/
[03:41] <coz_> bjsnider,  they have many newer cards there mine is a layla24 at this point
[03:41] <bjsnider> and they don't have much linux support at this point?
[03:42] <crimsun_> they do.
[03:42] <coz_> bjsnider,   the drivers are open source I believe
[03:42] <crimsun_> they are.
[03:43] <crimsun_> they're in the alsa tree proper and have been for many years.
[03:43] <Quutar> if I am running 10.10 desktop in a VirtualBox... how do I get the shared folders to work?
[03:46] <bjsnider> coz_, maybe if you're creating audio with that card you should use jack instead of puse
[03:46] <bjsnider> or pulse
[03:47] <coz_> bjsnider,  yeah I can also do that ...at this point I am just happy the driver was compiling properly :)  I do most of the pro audio on windows  but really need to switch over to linux for this
[03:47] <coz_> bjsnider,  so that was my concern with the compiling on linus in maverick  but I will try again tomorrow to get the errors reported properly
[03:48] <coz_> linux not linus
[03:49] <bjsnider> you can't do the pro audio on linux?
[03:50] <coz_> bjsnider,  yeah I can but I have been using the applications on window so long...I have to take time to learn the linux equivelents  ie  ardour etc  ... a bit of a learning curve
[03:51] <coz_> bjsnider,  at this point...there is nothing really important I have to do audio wise... well...I am creating sets of new sounds for ubuntu but not doing any real pieces at this point
[03:53] <bjsnider> i bet you could learn ardour if you took one weekend and spent every waking hour on it
[03:54] <coz_> bjsnider,  yeah  you are absolutely right :)  with support  etc etc I do ... I should take one weekend to work with it
[03:55] <coz_> bjsnider,  I will also probably want the low latency kernel at some point
[03:56] <coz_> rt kernel I believe it is labled now
[03:56] <bjsnider> realtime yeah
[03:57] <ripps> everytime liboobs updates, i read it as lib-boobs
[03:57] <coz_> same here ^^ lol
[04:01] <Quutar> how do I disable desktop compositing in ubuntu 10.10 desktop?
[04:02] <coz_> Quutar,  for compiz or metacity?
[04:03] <coz_> Quutar,  for compiz  it is /system/preferences/appearance   Visual effects tab  choose "None"
[04:03] <Quutar> thanks
[04:03] <coz_> Quutar,  for metacity  open gconf-editor  maneuver to /apps/metacity/general and in right pane  disable compositing
[04:05] <Quutar> it was compiz
[04:06] <coz_> Quutar,  cool...why did you disable it??
[04:08] <Quutar> was getting allot of tearing when playign back videos with mplayer and the vdpau video out
[04:09] <Quutar> now... i think i see an occasional tear... but i can't be sure... before it was blatant and all the time
[04:09] <coz_> oh ok
[04:11] <Quutar> now... i am running only one monitor with ubuntu... the second monitor is disabled... is there anyway I can bring it up so mplayer could use it as a display... but keep my normal gui out of it?
[04:12] <Quutar> does that make sense? i want to enable my second monitor... but don't want the gnome gui and the mouse to go onto it
[05:42] <toddc> need info toshiba nb205-210 under 10.04 had 4 minute boot time so I formatted tried 10.10 unr installer keeps freezing unless I tap buttons or mouse and still install fails any ideas?
[06:06] <eeeekyellowsnow> firefox not working, i just upgraded to 10.10
[06:06] <eeeekyellowsnow> :'(
[06:07] <eeeekyellowsnow> what do i do? i removed icedtea plugin but it still won't start
[06:32] <Tsims> anyone have any idea why the ubuntu one music store rwont connect
[06:42] <bazhang> okay its in folder ubuntuone submenu hide ribbon
[07:45] <Leman_Russ> Hi, I have a problem with SCIM and Anthy.
[07:45] <Leman_Russ> I installed both, but I can not get Japanese input to work
[07:46] <bazhang> !info ibus-gtk
[07:47] <bazhang> Leman_Russ, you'd want that^^ as scim has been replaced by it
[07:47] <Leman_Russ> I have ibus installed now
[07:47] <Leman_Russ> how do I access it?
[07:47] <bazhang> then configure it with the proper language support packs
[07:48] <bazhang> add it to top panel? then configure after installing ibus-kanji or whatnot?
[07:48] <Leman_Russ> ありがとう！！！！
[07:48] <Leman_Russ> I got it!
[07:48] <bazhang> heh
[07:48] <Leman_Russ> Thanks so much!
[07:49] <Leman_Russ> I never realised ibus replaced SCIM
[07:49] <bazhang> not going to google translate that
[07:49] <Leman_Russ> Thanks.  I will pass this info about
[07:49] <bazhang> :)
[07:49] <Leman_Russ> ..ahh, that just says 'thank you'
[07:49] <bazhang> I know, just kidding
[07:49] <Leman_Russ> (^-^)
[07:49] <Leman_Russ> Thanks again
[07:50] <bazhang> np :)
[07:50] <Leman_Russ> You in the US_?
[07:50] <bazhang> TW
[07:50] <Leman_Russ> ?
[07:50] <bazhang> Taiwan
[07:50] <Leman_Russ> Ah, really?  I am in Japan
[07:51] <bazhang> yep
[07:51] <Leman_Russ> Taipei?
[07:51] <bazhang> yep but we're getting waaaay offtopic here
[07:51] <Leman_Russ> Sorry!
[07:51] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic is fine though
[07:52] <Leman_Russ> Right, I will keep playing and see what other questions I can come up with!
[07:52] <bazhang> okay
[08:13] <voidmage> huh i have an unkillable nautilus window
[08:13] <voidmage> if i close it it opens again
[08:14] <voidmage> has anyone else ever seen that?
[08:15] <bazhang> voidmage, not yet, it was thunderbird here
[08:16] <voidmage> you close it and it reopens?
[08:18] <bazhang> voidmage, try to, it comes back incessantly
[08:49]  * zniavre is waiting for nvidia 173.14.xx update ...
[09:10] <walterj89_> Hey,  I'm trying to figure out utouch for a 3m touchscreen
[09:41] <mrp> is ubuntu one currently broken in the beta?
[09:43] <zetheroo> does anyone here use gtk-recordmydesktop?
[09:46] <AlanBell> hi all
[09:47] <AlanBell> at the moment adobe-flashplugin is not available in the canonical partner archive, how do I file a bug about this?
[09:48] <popey__> AlanBell: i'd ask in -mout
[09:48] <popey__> er -motu
[09:48] <AlanBell> the problem it causes is that if you get guided to the adobe site to install flash it tries to use apt:adobe-flashplugin?channel=$dist-partner
[09:48] <popey__> zetheroo: yes, i do
[09:49] <AlanBell> thanks popey__
[09:49] <popey__> ooer
[09:49] <zetheroo> popey__: I am wondering why the video file size is kinda random and why it takes so long to encode the video?
[09:50] <zetheroo> popey: I recorded 3 videos each different in length ... 20 min vid is 104MB, 14 min vid is 43MB and the 10min vid is 20MB .... this just doesn't seem right to me ...
[09:51] <popey> zetheroo: depends on the content I guess
[09:51] <popey> lots of still stuff vs lots of zooming in/out etc
[09:51] <popey> the more complex the video the bigger the compressed file will be
[09:52] <zetheroo> popey: no zooming ... all capturing the exact same area and desktop
[09:52] <popey> audio too?
[09:52] <zetheroo> yes
[09:52] <zetheroo> all of them
[09:52] <zetheroo> popey: just the difference in time and size does not make much sense ...
[09:53] <zetheroo> popey: but the strangest thing is the amount of time it takes to encode the video ... I recall it being MUCH faster in previous releases
[09:53] <zetheroo> I recently install Lucid fresh and have never seen it encode this slow
[09:54] <popey> i wonder if maverick has the new
[09:54] <popey> improved ogg video encoder
[09:55] <popey> which is indeed slower but much better
[11:29] <JoshuaL> anyone else experiencing issue where gwibber does not remember the opened streams after a reboot?
[12:36] <robotti^_> how good is that new ubuntu?
[12:36] <robotti^_> how stable it is?
[12:37] <penguin42> robotti^_: It's still got some problems, it's starting to get better
[12:38] <robotti^_> should I try it? :)
[12:38] <penguin42> robotti^_: If you did and it broke horribly could you recover?
[12:38] <robotti^_> maybe :)
[12:39] <bullgard4_> Empathy <IP_ADDRESS> still does not perform file transfer correctly. Is this a known phenomenon?
[12:40] <bullgard4_> mrp: If you consider the last 24 hours as "currently", the answer is: No.
[12:47] <AceKing> I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 on my Toshiba Laptop. Seemed like everything went well, but upon reboot it came up to a prompt to enter username and password. I entered it and it brings me to a command prompt. Is there any way to access the desktop at this point?
[12:52] <penguin42> AceKing: Sounds like a graphics driver type problem; what graphics card does it have?
[12:53] <penguin42> AceKing: If you're not sure then   lspci | grep -i vga   should give the answer
[12:54] <realburb> hi I have an odd problem with maverick: after rebooting, my PC changes drive numbers, what once was sda is now sdb and vice versa, what can I do to give the drives fixed names?
[12:54] <BUGabundo> man, I'm soooo fuuuu
[12:54] <BUGabundo> right now
[12:55] <BUGabundo> can't get my toshiba to boot from USB
[12:55] <penguin42> realburb: sda, sdb etc order hasn't been defined for 3 or 4 versions of ubuntu
[12:55] <BUGabundo> want to do a clean install of MM
[12:55] <BUGabundo> :((((
[12:55] <penguin42> realburb: It does the initialisation in parallel; use uuid's or labels instead of the sd* names
[12:55] <BUGabundo> this shouldn't be happening
[12:55] <realburb> penguin42 mhm can this somehow be combined with mdadm?
[12:56] <penguin42> realburb: Yeh, if you give mdadm the disks in /dev/disk/by-uuid then it'll work
[12:56] <realburb> penguin42 thanks Ill try it
[12:57] <penguin42> realburb: And blkid can be used to figure out which one is which (as can udisks --enumerate-device-files
[13:02] <AceKing> Penquin, sorry I just went to get a cup of coffee.. Let me check
[13:02] <realburb> penguin42 that would be /dev/by-uuid/a67dcb96-a9d2-5c10-9bfe-9c004878ee4b instead of /dev/sda1 right?
[13:02] <BUGabundo> sudo ionice -c3 zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/maverick-dvd-amd64.iso.zsync
[13:02] <BUGabundo> here we go
[13:03] <BUGabundo> burning media cause stupid laptop won't boot from usb
[13:04] <AceKing> penguin42, ATI RS780 MC
[13:07] <AceKing> penguin42, is there anyway around that?
[13:14] <BUGabundo> isn't there a simple metapackage to take care of all TFTP stuff?
[13:24] <penguin42> realburb: Yeh something like that
[13:24] <penguin42> AceKing: I'm guessing you previously had the fglrx/proprietary drivers installed?
[13:25] <AceKing> penguin42, yes
[13:26] <penguin42> AceKing: If so, it doesn't yet work on maverick, but the open source driver should be OK except for heavy 3d, first try just moving /etc/X11/xorg.conf out of the way and see if it works, if not then you'll need to remove any of the fglrx packages; you might be able to use the    jockey-text command to do that, or failing that remove the packages
[13:27] <AceKing> penguin42, Thanks, I'll give it a try
[13:49] <realburb> penguin42 works great now, thanks
[13:49] <penguin42> no problem
[14:19] <tekonivel^^> desktop weirdness on Meerkat :\
[14:20] <tekonivel^^> warnings of not being able to contact gnome-settings-daemon are piling up in ~/.xsession-errors
[14:21] <tekonivel^^> plus plenty of these: "(mutter:30120): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-CRITICAL **: id_prop_update: assertion `priv->root != NULL' failed"
[14:28] <BUGabundo> http://www.netboot.me/257001 eheh
[14:30] <penguin42> hmm Maverick!=10.04
[14:31] <BUGabundo> ops
[14:31]  * BUGabundo tries to edit
[14:31] <BUGabundo> darn copy paste
[14:31] <BUGabundo> there
[14:31] <BUGabundo> fixed
[14:31] <BUGabundo> thanks penguin42
[14:32] <penguin42> np
[14:34] <BUGabundo> seems to me this is one of the nicest way to install and test stuff
[14:35] <BUGabundo> only one media (one netbootme iso) and then just point to what ever conf you want
[14:35] <BUGabundo> even your own
[14:37] <BUGabundo> jpds: what's the fastest oficial mirror close to portugal?
[14:37] <BUGabundo> you said the other day pt.ubuntu was limited
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> hi all
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> anyone got STA broadcom wifi drivers?
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> maverick doesnt install it by default
[14:50] <duffydack> the only one that installs and works for me.
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> the strange thing is, that driver is on the install cd
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> pool/main
[14:50] <duffydack> both are
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> wondering why it doesnt install by default
[14:51] <duffydack> because you have a choice between b43 and sta
[14:51] <duffydack> and sta is non-free
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> ic
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> all the rest works fine for me on maverick
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> system halt@ 4sec
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> its really fast
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> on SSD drive
[14:54] <AceKing> penguin42, I had to boot in using a 10.04 Live CD. I renamed the xorg.conf file and restarted my laptop. Everything appeared a lot smaller visually, but I still came to the prompt for my username and password. Same thing, went to the command prompt. I rebooted back into 10.04 and tried using "jockey-text" but I'm getting nowhere with that. If I'm in Live CD, how do I remove the fglrx packages?
[14:54] <penguin42> why did you go to the live cd ?
[14:55] <AceKing> penguin42, so I could rename the .conf file
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> what the hotkey to enter grub at boot on maverick?
[14:55] <penguin42> AceKing: But I thought you said you could log in on the installed version at the text prompt?
[14:55] <charlie-tca> lotuspsychje: hold the shift key
[14:55] <penguin42> lotuspsychje: Shift
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[14:56] <penguin42> lotuspsychje: *right* after the bios
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx alot
[14:56] <AceKing> penguin42, It asks for my username and password, when I enter them it brings me to a command prompt and wont go any further
[14:57] <penguin42> AceKing: But it gives you a $ prompt ? and you can issue normal commands like ls etc there?
[14:57] <AceKing> penguin42, yes
[14:58] <penguin42> ok, so you don't need the rescue disk
[14:58] <penguin42> AceKing: So lets just check the xorg.conf, at that $ prompt if you do   ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf does it say it's not found ?
[15:00] <AceKing> penguin42, it says "No such file or directory"
[15:00] <penguin42> great
[15:00] <penguin42> AceKing: try sudo jocket-text -l
[15:00]  * penguin42 admits at this point to not having used jockey before and normally doing this with dpkg, but if jockey can be made to work it's probably safer
[15:02] <AceKing> penguin42, it says "warning, could not open display warnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.warning
[15:03] <penguin42> is that all it says?
[15:05] <AceKing> penguin42, Sorry, I didn't see the line above.. "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py57:gtkwarnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.warning)
[15:05] <penguin42> AceKing: OK, lets give up on jockey and do it the old-school way   -  dpkg -l \*fglrx\*
[15:07] <AceKing> penguin42, Ok, it brought up a whole bunch of stuff. Name version description
[15:10] <AceKing> penguin42, First line after I typed and hit enter says: Desired=Unknown/install/remove/purge/hold
[15:10] <AceKing> penguin42, do you need me to type out all of it?
[15:11] <penguin42> AceKing: OK, just do it again slightly different, dpkg -l | grep ^ii      now for each line you should get something like     ii   fglrx-something  description version
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> is there a way to backup wifi drivers on usb stick in .deb?
[15:13] <AceKing> penguin42, Ok, that just ran pages of stuff for about 5 seconds
[15:13] <penguin42> AceKing: Oops, I know why
[15:13] <penguin42> AceKing: dpkg -l \*fglrx\* | grep ^ii
[15:13] <penguin42> that should only have 2 or 3 lines
[15:14] <AceKing> penguin42, I ran the fist one again and I got 3 things with ii
[15:15] <AceKing> penguin42, fglrx 2:8.723.1-0ubuntu4
[15:16] <penguin42> ok, great now do apt-get remove fglrx
[15:20] <AceKing> penguin42, Ok, that just completed
[15:20] <penguin42> AceKing: OK, reboot and there's a 50/50 chance it might start X
[15:22] <AceKing> penguin42, you are a genius! IT WORKED!!!
[15:23] <penguin42> Hey no problem
[15:23] <AceKing> penguin42, Thank you so much for your help
[15:23] <penguin42> no problem
[15:25] <zj3t3mju> hi
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> hello
[15:25] <zj3t3mju> I have one package in maverick
[15:25] <zj3t3mju> but it need to rebuild to work (just that)
[15:26] <zj3t3mju> but I also release 0.5.1 (from 0.5)
[15:26] <zj3t3mju> will it be in 10.10?
[15:27] <zj3t3mju> if that I won't need to request rebuild
[15:27] <penguin42> zj3t3mju: Pretty much all the package versions have settled down, some might get updated for release but it'll be unusual
[15:29] <zj3t3mju> :-s
[15:33] <BUGabundo> for the 1st time I'm seeing IO on this SSD
[15:33] <BUGabundo> copying 11GB of photos from an usb external 5400disk to then internal ssd
[15:33] <BUGabundo> bahh
[15:35] <zj3t3mju> penguin42: thanks
[15:45]  * penguin42 has just filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/636418
[16:01] <Dink> hmm with the latest updates X freezes often and all I see in the Xorg logs are ... (EE) intel(0): Couldn't create pixmap for fbcon
[16:03] <penguin42> hmm not good
[16:03] <Dink> Yeah, haven't had an issue in the past. Even during the crazy Xorg upgrade period.
[16:16] <Dink> ha using term makes it worse for some reason. Kinda hard to look at the logs for relevant info to file a bug when it hangs while you are trying to use it.
[16:22] <Machtin> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Asus <- i'm pretty sure i have xonar dx, but alsamixer says "AV200" - why's that?
[16:24] <penguin42> Machtin: My guess is that a Xonar DS is a board/motherboard/marketing name for somethign which nhas an AV200 chip on wired in a particular way
[16:24] <penguin42> sorry, DX
[16:24] <Dink> hmm the other interesting part I don't think there was any updates to xserver-xorg-video-intel recently
[16:27] <Machtin> penguin42: but, on that alsa-site i posted it says it has a av100-chip, not av200?
[16:27] <penguin42> Machtin: Hmm so it does
[16:28] <penguin42> Machtin: OK, I don't know the Asus/Xonar stuff, but  1) That page could just be wrong, 2) It's not too unusual for vendors to change stuff and keep the same marketing name
[16:28] <Machtin> i see.
[16:29] <Machtin> just thought it might be a lead on why my sound's b0rked.
[16:29] <penguin42> If you see Crimsun around he's the sound guru
[16:29] <Machtin> ah, nice to know :)
[16:33] <eponym> I just installed 10.10 and I have the mouse sensitivity and acceleration cranked all the way down, but I'd like it even lower. It isn't too fast where it's at, but anything higher than the lowest setting is.
[16:37] <penguin42> eponym: OK, I'd submit a bug against the setting thing that adjusts it, you might be able to fiddle in gconf to set it slower
[16:39] <eponym> penguin42: thanks! where in gconf should I be looking?
[16:40] <penguin42> eponym: Try /desktop/gnome/periphers/mouse
[16:40] <penguin42> hmm htat's only really acceleration not base speed
[16:42] <eponym> It's a Logitech bluetooth wireless mouse, if that's any help.
[16:44] <penguin42> eponym: Well, I'd try tweaking the values in there - possibly keep that open while you've got the gui open you should see which value changes
[16:46] <eponym> I see, the sensitivity setting is having no effect, but if the acceleration is higher than the lowest setting it is too fast. I'm seeing similar bug reports to this.
[16:55] <eponym> If I make changes to my xorg.conf, what do I need to do to get them to take effect?
[16:56] <Ian_corne> sudo service gdm restart should take care of it
[16:56] <penguin42> restart X
[16:56] <eponym> Right, thanks.
[17:06] <voidmage> does anyone else have a problem with a window when they close it it reopens?
[17:06] <voidmage> for me it's a nautilus window, for someone else it's thunderbird
[17:16] <penguin42> voidmage: No, that's a bit weird
[17:17] <voidmage> penguin42: any ideas? the window this is happening to me with was saved in a session save
[17:17] <voidmage> and i forget how to remove it from my session save
[17:18] <penguin42> well system->preferences->start up applications let you remove some stuff, but it's not really the same - for example it doesn't list the terminal that it's saved
[17:19] <voidmage> i guess i could hand remove it from ~/.config/session-state...
[17:22] <rblst> hello all
[17:22] <voidmage> oh god that was not the best idea
[17:22] <voidmage> now i have infinitely spawning nautilus processes
[17:23] <rblst> does 10.10 have multitouch support for synaptic touchpads?
[17:23] <rblst> if yes, can it be set up in 10.04 somehow?
[17:30] <charlie-tca> rblst: I think it does, but not yet
[17:32] <rblst> charlie-tca, cool, thanks
[17:40] <jpds> BUGabundo: Fastest mirror close to Portugal?
[17:40] <jpds> BUGabundo: Probably the Spanish ones.
[17:40] <BUGabundo> done now
[17:40] <BUGabundo> lol
[17:40] <BUGabundo> set up to use mirrors
[17:40] <Daekdroom> I don't like using mirrors in development versions
[17:41] <BUGabundo> Daekdroom: then get out of here
[17:41] <jpds> I do, they just work.
[17:41] <BUGabundo> and when they don't, we blame jpds
[17:41] <Daekdroom> Sometimes they lag behind too much
[17:41] <Daekdroom> Specially because the development versions gets new packages everytime
[17:42] <jpds> Daekdroom: Most of them are set to update every six hours, is that not enough for you?
[17:43] <Daekdroom> jpds, it has proven to not be enough 2 or 3 times in the past, but every six hours sounds reasonable..
[17:45] <jpds> Daekdroom: Ah, you're based in Brazil, there are two mirrors that update every 6 hours there. :)
[17:45] <jpds> br.archive.u.c being one of them.
[18:13] <tgpraveen> is it just me or do bubble notifications dont work well with empathy
[18:13] <nanomad> which is the correct channel to help devs triage xorg bugs in maverick?
[18:23] <kulight> any one managed to get compiz 0.9 working on 10.10?
[18:27] <tgpraveen> is it just me or do bubble notifications dont work well with empathy
[18:37] <penguin42> kulight: The question is normally related to exactly which graphics card/driver is used
[18:37] <kulight> nvidia
[18:37] <kulight> penguin42: 8600gt
[18:38] <penguin42> kulight: So do you have the proprietary drivers installed (I'm an ATI user)
[18:39] <kulight> penguin42: yes  i also got compiz to install but i get no effects at all (and no copositing) when rebooting to compiz 0.9
[18:39] <kulight> also no windows decoration
[18:39] <penguin42> do other 3d things work?
[18:40] <penguin42> e.g. something simple like glxgears
[18:40] <kulight> penguin42: no, screenlets stops working correctly
[18:41] <penguin42> Sounds like the proprietary driver isn't that happy - can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:41] <penguin42> although as I say I'm not an Nvidian, maybe there is one around
[18:42] <kulight> i removed compiz 0.9 so ill hve to find the correct log...
[18:42] <penguin42> compiz won't make any difference to the Xorg.0.log
[18:46] <kulight> penguin42:  when using compiz 8.6 evrything works
[18:46] <penguin42> o hok, so it sounds like compiz is broke not the X server then
[18:46] <kulight> penguin42: i got nothing i the logs
[18:46] <kulight> penguin42: that was my line of thought
[18:47] <penguin42> hey well, the maverick one is 0.86 isn't it?
[18:50] <kulight> yes ill keep using it for now
[19:05] <Dink> hmm yeah gnome-terminal is causing X to hang interesting. I just went 2 hours fine and once I opened up terminal and starting moving it around, typing etc BAM
[19:05] <Dink> ls -lrt
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@RooTBoX:~$ uname -a
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> Linux RooTBoX 2.6.35-19-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Sun Aug 29 06:34:38 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2797/screenshotdwk.png
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> yow dupondje
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> you should try maverick 64 bit mate
[19:54] <Saguaro> I'm on 10.10 64-bit
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> system halt@4sec
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> yes me2
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2797/screenshotdwk.png
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> its all working
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> flash, compiz, full effects
[19:55] <pavpanchekha> help with lvm?
[19:55] <penguin42> lotuspsychje: Out of interest what's the system/graphics card/etc
[19:56] <penguin42> that's very purple
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> is there a terminal command for that pengiun42
[19:56] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: What's up?
[19:56] <penguin42> lotuspsychje: Well I guessed you would know, lspci would be a start
[19:57] <Saguaro> haha, that screenshot makes me realize I need higher resolution monitors
[19:57] <Saguaro> running at 1440x900 sucks
[19:57] <alex_mayorga> is Bug #581385 alive on Meerkat?
[19:57] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: I'm trying to set up the beta with lvm
[19:57] <penguin42> bug 581385
[19:57] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: it fails into a busybox shell
[19:57] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: LVM is not present in the busybox
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 3200 Graphics]
[19:58] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: Hmm that sucks; was that from the alternate or main cd ?
[19:58] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: main
[19:58] <pavpanchekha> I installed from the live and then chrooted in to install lvm
[19:58] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: it was a live CD, don't know if that changes things
[19:58] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: So you did live, did the lvm yourself and then told it to just install ?
[19:59] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: My lvm partitions were already set up
[19:59] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: I installed lvm on the live
[19:59] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: installed to lvm
[19:59] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: that worked flawlessly
[19:59] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: and then chrooted in to install the lvm2 package
[19:59] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: Ah OK, hmm - you might try to update the initrd's and grub now you've installed the lvm package
[19:59] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: update-initramfs -k all -u
[19:59] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: uhuh
[19:59] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: umm
[20:00] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: It doesn't want to update initramfs on a read-only medium
[20:00] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: the problem, perhaps?
[20:00] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: Hmm hang on this is tricky, you're going to have to boot from the livecd, get lvm going and mount the root and boot filesystems (and proc and sys) and chroot into them and try and do that
[20:00] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: One sec, I'll boot back into the live CD to test your command
[20:00] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: does the GT 230M card work?
[20:01] <penguin42> alex_mayorga: Don't know - I don't do Nvidia, but I think some people have had Nvidia working
[20:02] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: thanks
[20:02] <alex_mayorga> other horrific things that might happen?
[20:03] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: My guess is that the suggested way to do lvm would be from the alternate CD, but I run a normal / and just use lvm for extras
[20:03] <alex_mayorga> how can I setup X to fall back in case something goes awry?
[20:03] <penguin42> alex_mayorga: I'm not sure if it's fixed but with the closed nvidia drivers there was a thing you had to put an IgnoreABI in the xorg.conf to load the older drivers - that was a few weeks ago
[20:05] <BUGabundo> anyone here ever installed crashplan? it can't find java in MM
[20:05] <BUGabundo> guess it doesn't like openjdk-6-jre
[20:05] <alex_mayorga> !crashplan
[20:06] <penguin42> alex_mayorga: Put a large paper bag over your head and DON'T PANIC
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> lol
[20:06] <penguin42> other than that, you could try asking here
[20:06] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: :D
[20:07] <BUGabundo> alex_mayorga: http://bcrashplan.com/
[20:07] <BUGabundo> alex_mayorga: http://crashplan.com/
[20:07] <BUGabundo> its a close source paid backup service
[20:07] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: Sorry about leaving, I have only 1 internet connection for both the desktop I'm rescuing and the laptop I'm using [bleh]
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> on a edu line :p
[20:09] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: what was the command? `update-initramfs -k all -u`?
[20:09] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: Yeh I think that has a chance
[20:09] <pavpanchekha> alright
[20:09] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: rebooting I go!
[20:11] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: It worked, and you now have my infinite gratitude
[20:12] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: Please leave an address or telephone number and our agents will ship it to you within 10-12 business days
[20:12] <penguin42> hehe!
[20:13] <sevenseeker> anyone have a ATI Radeon HD 4650 or that series and have it working with 10.10?
[20:13] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: So just checking, your lvm partitions were there already, you installed and then chroot'ed in to add lvm packages?
[20:13] <pavpanchekha> yep
[20:13] <penguin42> sevenseeker: I have the HD4350 which I think uses the same drivers
[20:14] <penguin42> pavpanchekha:Hmm, I'm trying to think whether it should have done the update-initramfs for you
[20:14] <sevenseeker> penguin42, hello again :) are you using the latest fglrx or the radeon drivers?
[20:14] <penguin42> sevenseeker: Radeon drivers plus the latest mesa from sarvatt/mesa ppa
[20:14] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: When I chrooted in, I mount -o bind'd /proc, /dev, and /sys
[20:14] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: So it might have detected that I was on read-only media
[20:14] <sevenseeker> aha, that could be my problem then...
[20:14] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: And refused to regenerate teh initramfs
[20:14] <sevenseeker> no mesa
[20:15] <penguin42> sevenseeker: I only put those in because other wise I get a load of weird flickering on 3d games
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> sevenseeker my HD3200 ati worked by default, no alternate drivers
[20:15] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: But didn't you have to chroot to get the lvm2 installed anyway?
[20:15] <pavpanchekha> yes
[20:15] <penguin42> lotuspsychje: If you run google earth or assaultcube do you get flickering?
[20:15] <sevenseeker> penguin42, ahh... well when I mv my xorg.conf it reconfigures or attempts to, and hangs
[20:15] <duffydack> sevenseeker, 4650, working.
[20:15] <pavpanchekha> but as part of the apt-get, even though it might have wanted to update-initramfs, that would have failed
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> penguin42: lemme go check
[20:16] <penguin42> sevenseeker: I don't have an xorg.conf
[20:16] <duffydack> sevenseeker, no xorg.conf, just works OOTB.
[20:16] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: just update-initramfs failed (I tried that)
[20:16] <penguin42> pavpanchekha: OK, the -u is update and the -k all does all kernels
[20:16] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: somehow, the arguments you gave forced it to update it
[20:16] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: uhuh
[20:16] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: ok, hmm
[20:16] <sevenseeker> duffydack: hmmm, I updated 3 days ago and have stayed current but I get errors, lemme pastebin them real quick (gotta transfer)
[20:18] <pavpanchekha> penguin42: I'm offline for a sec again
[20:18]  * penguin42 is going
[20:18] <duffydack> sevenseeker,  you upgraded from lucid?  well, I dont know then, this is fresh.. I cant stand upgrades.. pff
[20:18]  * penguin42 has to go and turn his brain off and watch some TV, other wise I won't sleep properly!
[20:19] <sevenseeker> duffydack: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/261102/
[20:19] <sevenseeker> duffydack: that is my next step
[20:19] <sevenseeker> :(
[20:20] <duffydack> you upgraded while using the fglrx driver though didnt you.
[20:21] <sevenseeker> duffydack: yes, however I since purged it and installed the latest driver (by creating a maverick package from the binary installer from ati)
[20:22] <duffydack> stick with free driver till fglrx becomes stable/packaged
[20:22] <ChogyDan> hmmm, my upgrade is locked up
[20:23] <sevenseeker> ok, not sure how to do that though... deleting xorg.conf and doing startx (or rebooting) causes a blank screen
[20:23] <ChogyDan> missing window borders, any ideas?
[20:23] <sevenseeker> that I can't ctrl-alt-F# to a term
[20:23] <duffydack> ChogyDan, using compiz?
[20:23] <ChogyDan> duffydack: I wasn't, but I can't really check
[20:24] <duffydack> ChogyDan, I sometimes get booted into a desktop with no window controls/border, I have to reload compiz
[20:25] <ChogyDan> duffydack: yeah, but this is happening mid -upgrade
[20:25] <duffydack> happens in lucid as well.. that and another little bug they dont seem to wanna fix
[20:25] <alex_mayorga> !modeset
[20:25] <duffydack> Not sure then.  I stay away from upgrades.  not worth my time.
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> coompiz never workd better for me
[20:26] <ChogyDan> oh well, I don't think compiz is running: ps aux | grep compiz turned nothing
[20:27] <duffydack> pgrep -l 'compiz'
[20:31] <alex_mayorga> looks like I have a "gift" to pick video cards bug 576125
[20:32] <ChogyDan> hah!  the problem was that there was a popup about grub and a device.map.  Metacity is crashed, so I couldn't click.  But I was able to use ctrl+c within the terminal window of upgrade manager...
[21:02] <alex_mayorga> how many betas would happen?
[21:03] <duffydack> 1
[21:03] <BUGabundo> 2
[21:04] <BUGabundo> 3
[21:04] <BUGabundo> GO
[21:04] <duffydack> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule
[21:04] <alex_mayorga> let's see how the beta fares now
[21:04] <duffydack> anyone thinking oct 10th wont be the release date.
[21:08] <alex_mayorga> duffydack: it will be, SABDFL said so
[21:08] <BUGabundo> ahaahh
[21:09] <sevenseeker> alex_mayorga, what does the SA stand for?
[21:09] <duffydack> I just dont want em to rush out something..
[21:09] <duffydack> its a lot earlier on in the month than previous releases, is it not
[21:14] <Daekdroom> duffydack, the point is not having to rename future versions if they delay them
[21:16] <duffydack> 10.10.10 it is then :0
[21:18] <alex_mayorga> duffydack: our dictator, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth#Involvement_in_Linux_and_FOSS
[21:19] <duffydack> I guess there wont be any issues come release day, due to the gap between lucid-maverick isnt as wide as with karmic-lucid, in terms of tech
[21:22] <duffydack> anyhoo.. Anyone else using empathy and it only displaying notification when you actually view the message thats waiting.
[21:22] <lotuspsychje> yes duffydack same here
[21:23] <lotuspsychje> new message pops up but no tray icon
[21:25] <duffydack> erm.. with me its showing message in the message menu, and the contact list is flashing it, but when I view the message, its only then I get the indicator bubble displaying the message
[21:30] <pavpanchekha> NVidia problems, who should I ask?
[21:31] <pavpanchekha> I installed nvidia-current and now my monitor declares "Out of Range"
[21:33] <pavpanchekha> Nvidia issues help, anyone?
[21:34] <jpds> pavpanchekha: Try #ubuntu-x
[21:35] <lotuspsychje> duffydack: disable 'show incomming messages in menu'
[21:35] <alex_mayorga> pavpanchekha: what's the faulty card?
[21:37] <duffydack> lotuspsychje, that makes it show the fancy onsceen bubble but also now shows me the window
[21:38] <duffydack> the point of me wanting the message show in indicator style bubble is to not see the window until I want to
[21:38] <lotuspsychje> lolµ
[21:40] <duffydack> nevermind..  its fine in lucid.. and this is just  test install.
[21:45] <ramburgsun> hi 2 all. I can not create a bootable flash Maverick beta and daily build. I tried ultraiso and Universal-USB-Installer and fix syslinux.cfg. What is the problem? sorry for my english
[21:46] <yong> ramburgsun, unetbootin works for me to create maverick liveusb
[21:47] <slipperychicken> <3 unetbootin
[21:47] <duffydack> iso`s ftw
[21:48] <ramburgsun> it should rename the isolinux-> syslinux manually?
[21:57] <duffydack> gujin loader and a few partitions for each iso I cat over, all I use these days.,
[21:58] <pavpanchekha> alex_mayorga: I have a 7600 GT
[21:58] <pavpanchekha> alex_mayorga: At this point, if I could switch to a different driver, I'd be happy
[21:58] <pavpanchekha> alex_mayorga: Alternatively, if I could figure out how to get xrandr to fix it
[21:58] <alex_mayorga> pavpanchekha: what's the driver that doesn't work
[21:59] <pavpanchekha> alex_mayorga: I just installed nvidia-current from the restricted driver manager
[21:59] <pavpanchekha> alex_mayorga: how do I get the version?
[21:59] <magicianlord> install it from synaptic
[21:59] <magicianlord> and then run from root, "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[22:00] <pavpanchekha> magicianlord: That worked!
[22:00] <pavpanchekha> magicianlord: Thanks!
[22:00] <magicianlord> sure
[22:06] <alex_mayorga> pavpanchekha: can you summarize for me please? about to restart into 10.10 with nvidia card
[22:07] <pavpanchekha> alex_mayorga: I did what magicianlord said (nvidia-xconfig) and it worked
[22:08] <alex_mayorga> pavpanchekha: aptitude install first?
[22:08] <magicianlord> it should be better documented.
[22:09] <magicianlord> after nvidia drivers are installed (sudo apt-get install nvidia-current), you need to configure x (sudo nvidia-xconfig) and log out and back in.
[22:10] <bjsnider> jockey installs the xorg.conf file for you in a way that's compatible with ubuntu
[22:10] <bjsnider> i'm not as confident in nvidia-xconfig
[22:12] <ramburgsun> I try with unetbootin. Startup endless reading flash (_8 (|)
[22:12] <magicianlord> does it? then use that. from what i remembered, i had to run xconfig either way
[22:13] <bjsnider> it's easy to check for the existence of xorg.conf and its contents before rebooting
[22:15] <magicianlord> debian does document a manual way of configuring xorg.conf with nvidia
[22:33] <alex_mayorga> well my dist-upgrade is done, final tips to try recovery if something goes awry?
[22:35] <magicianlord> restoring xorg.conf
[22:52] <magicianlord> is everyone enjoying maverick so far?
[22:55] <Sir_Brizz> for the most part, yes
[22:55] <duffydack> mostly.
[22:55] <duffydack> bugs still, but it will be installed in place of lucid soon enough
[22:56] <magicianlord> cool
[23:07] <magicianlord> it's almost time for a reinvention of the desktop managers
[23:09] <linkinx> I am following this bug, and deleting "ui" is not helping.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/syslinux/+bug/608382
[23:18] <alex_mayorga> hello all!
[23:18] <alex_mayorga> back up and running
[23:22] <alex_mayorga> still no way to dismiss all notification from the green folder thingie?
[23:23] <alex_mayorga> err, green envelope
[23:26] <Salminen> Hello. I was guided to try 10.10 after 10.04 for some reason lacked the gfx drivers for my laptop. I did, but apparently i must have downloaded the wrong version since i have no GUI, just command line interface.
[23:27] <Salminen> How can i change to the correct version now, using the command line?
[23:27] <Salminen> (if i can)
[23:28] <alex_mayorga> Salminen: what's your card
[23:28] <Salminen> wish i could say, some sis graphics chip
[23:28] <Salminen> esprimo mobile v5515
[23:29] <Sir_Brizz> Salminen: you should be able to install ubuntu-desktop
[23:29] <Salminen> hmm sorry for being such a noob but using which command?
[23:29] <Salminen> sudo apt-get?
[23:29] <Sir_Brizz> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:29] <Salminen> thanks
[23:29] <Salminen> i'll see if that works
[23:30] <Salminen> ubuntu-desktop is already up-to-date
[23:30] <Salminen> interesting
[23:30] <Sir_Brizz> try sudo gdm restart
[23:30] <Salminen> (for some reason it's in finnish, my translation might be lacking)
[23:31] <Salminen> failed to acquire org.gnome.displaymanager
[23:31] <Sir_Brizz> interesting
[23:31] <Salminen> wish i was paying more attention when installing this
[23:32] <Salminen> i used sudo update-manager -d in my 10.04 terminal and installed the 10.10 from there
[23:32] <Salminen> im confused as to what i might have done wrong to install the incorrect version
[23:33] <alex_mayorga> how borked is nvidia-current using jockey?
[23:34] <Sir_Brizz> alex_mayorga: it worked for me
[23:34] <Sir_Brizz> Salminen: try this
[23:34] <Sir_Brizz> sudo aptitude update
[23:34] <Sir_Brizz> then sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[23:34] <alex_mayorga> Sir_Brizz: thanks! What card?
[23:34] <Sir_Brizz> 9200M
[23:34] <splashote> hi, ambiance maverick-beta stopped workind, the configurator says it's not installed, there is a conflict with phase-themes, which i don't find as a package. what can i do?
[23:35] <Salminen> 0 packages 0 newly installed 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[23:35] <Salminen> so it ran a check and ended up doing nothing
[23:35] <Sir_Brizz> is it checking the maverick repositories?
[23:35] <Salminen> btw i tried to just use gdm, said something about connection not allowed in security policy
[23:36] <Salminen> yeah it is
[23:36] <Salminen> there's at least four option in grub about which ubuntu to run, could i just be running the wrong one?
[23:36] <Salminen> (propably not)
[23:37] <Sir_Brizz> it's possible
[23:38] <Salminen> lol
[23:39] <Salminen> and all this started from me wanting to upgrade my 9.04 to 10.04 while i was playing a game
[23:39] <Salminen> damn fujitsu laptops
[23:39] <Salminen> ooo
[23:39] <Salminen> i found the GUI version i think
[23:39] <Salminen> for some reason it was in the middle of multiple other options
[23:40] <Salminen> well i quess that means it works
[23:40] <Salminen> still no drivers for my gfx chip though
[23:40] <Salminen> just flashing white and black on the screen, propably getting the pop-up about "low graphics mode" soon - i hope
[23:41] <Salminen> i quess i'll have to format and reinstall older version, it worked fine in 9.04 and 9.10
[23:42] <Sir_Brizz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1245831
[23:42] <Sir_Brizz> you might want to try something like that
[23:51] <Salminen> lol
[23:51] <Salminen> tried running recovery mode, instead of flashing balck and white i get blue, red, white and black
[23:51] <Salminen> it's an improvement
[23:52] <magicianlord> i wonder if qwebirc works on kindle then
[23:57] <sevenseeker> duffydack: so I installed from scratch... video is beautiful now :)