[07:03] <Blank__> :o an iphone user! shun!
[15:32] <ryanpg> hi all... can anyone explain to me (or point me to a url) what is going on with jackd in ubuntu 10.10?
[15:33] <ryanpg> attempting to install jackd2 results in many many apps being removed, conversely, certain apps seem to require jackd2
[15:45] <ryanpg> this is very frustrating, and I'm concerned with the release of 10.10 a month away
[15:45] <ryanpg> anyone?
[15:49] <holstein> ryanpg: hello
[15:49] <holstein> phone...
[15:49] <holstein> bbib
[15:49] <holstein> biab
[15:52] <ryanpg> thanks holstein
[15:52] <holstein> alright
[15:52] <ryanpg> holstein, I'm also in -devel :)
[15:52] <holstein> ryanpg: are you running 10.10 beta
[15:53] <ryanpg> holstein, yes
[15:53] <holstein> ryanpg: AH
[15:54] <holstein> i see you got ScottL talking to you over in -devel :)
[15:54] <ryanpg> yeah, should we continue in -devel ?
[15:54] <holstein> sure
[16:09] <holstein> ryanpg: the OSMP channel i was referring to is #opensourcemusicians
[16:10] <ryanpg> holstein, oh cool - never heard of that one
[18:27] <musotek> hi guys
[18:28] <holstein> musotek: hello
[18:28] <musotek> Cannot get my M-Audio Delta 66 to work properly on Lucid.
[18:28] <musotek> Any suggestions?
[18:28] <musotek> INFO:
[18:28] <musotek> ********************
[18:28] <musotek> :~$ lspci|grep audio
[18:28] <musotek> 00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02)
[18:28] <musotek> ********************
[18:28] <musotek> :~$ lsmod |grep snd
[18:28] <musotek> snd_ice1712            55129  0
[18:28] <musotek> snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx      2547  1 snd_ice1712
[18:28] <musotek> snd_ak4xxx_adda         7364  2 snd_ice1712,snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx
[18:28] <musotek> snd_cs8427              6522  1 snd_ice1712
[18:28] <musotek> snd_ac97_codec        100646  1 snd_ice1712
[18:28] <holstein> might want to use pastebin
[18:28] <musotek> snd_pcm_oss            35308  0
[18:28] <musotek> snd_mixer_oss          13746  1 snd_pcm_oss
[18:28] <holstein> or ubuntu paste
[18:28] <musotek> snd_pcm                70662  3 snd_ice1712,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
[18:28] <musotek> snd_page_alloc          7076  1 snd_pcm
[18:28] <musotek> ac97_bus                1002  1 snd_ac97_codec
[18:28] <musotek> snd_i2c                 4398  2 snd_ice1712,snd_cs8427
[18:28] <musotek> snd_mpu401_uart         5617  1 snd_ice1712
[18:29] <musotek> snd_seq_dummy           1338  0
[18:29] <musotek> snd_seq_oss            26726  0
[18:29] <musotek> snd_seq_midi            4557  0
[18:29] <musotek> snd_rawmidi            19056  2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_midi
[18:29] <musotek> snd_seq_midi_event      6003  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
[18:29] <musotek> snd_seq                47263  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
[18:29] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[18:29] <musotek> snd_timer              19098  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
[18:29] <musotek> snd_seq_device          5700  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
[18:29] <musotek> snd                    54148  14 snd_ice1712,snd_ak4xxx_adda,snd_cs8427,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_i2c,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
[18:29] <musotek> soundcore               6620  1 snd
[18:29] <musotek> ********************
[18:29] <musotek> :~$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[18:29] <musotek> # autoloader aliases
[18:29] <musotek> install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-0
[18:29] <musotek> install sound-slot-1 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-1
[18:29] <musotek> install sound-slot-2 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-2
[18:29] <musotek> install sound-slot-3 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-3
[18:29] <musotek> install sound-slot-4 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-4
[18:29] <musotek> install sound-slot-5 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-5
[18:29] <musotek> install sound-slot-6 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-6
[18:29] <holstein> flooding the channel like this usually makes people sad :/
[18:29] <musotek> install sound-slot-7 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-7
[18:29] <musotek> of course
[18:29] <musotek> thanks
[18:29] <holstein> musotek: i'll just be a few ticks :)
[18:30] <musotek> sorry about that
[18:30] <musotek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/489936/
[18:32] <holstein> musotek: no worries :)
[18:32] <musotek> :)
[18:32] <holstein> well we no that card works well
[18:32] <holstein> know*
[18:32] <holstein> at least that is what im told
[18:33] <musotek> that's what I heard too
[18:35] <holstein> musotek: you can paste this here
[18:35] <holstein> it wont be much
[18:35] <holstein> whats
[18:35] <holstein> the output of
[18:35] <holstein> uname -a
[18:35] <holstein> and
[18:36] <holstein> aplay -l
[18:36] <holstein> and
[18:36] <holstein> arecord -l
[18:36] <musotek> 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:10:02 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:36] <holstein> AH
[18:36] <musotek> aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found...
[18:37] <holstein> hmm
[18:37] <holstein> thats not good
[18:37] <musotek> arecord: device_list:223: no soundcards found...
[18:37] <holstein> hmmm
[18:37] <musotek> nope
[18:37] <holstein> its a delta?
[18:37] <musotek> yeah
[18:37] <holstein> 6 6?
[18:37] <musotek> delta 66
[18:38] <ryanpg> hi all... back
[18:38] <musotek> hi
[18:38] <ryanpg> man, for the life of me...  I'll give that a read ... thanks
[18:39] <ryanpg> just sitting idle I get a burst of xruns every 20 seconds or so
[18:39] <holstein> musotek: theres probably something more relevant to ubuntu around somewhere
[18:39] <ryanpg> frames 64 periods 6
[18:39] <holstein> musotek: try #opensourcemusicians too :)
[18:40] <holstein> ryanpg: what kernel?
[18:40] <holstein> uname -a
[18:40] <ryanpg> Linux Ryan-Laptop 2.6.33-29-realtime #1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Thu Aug 5 12:28:39 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:40] <holstein> hmmm
[18:40] <holstein> yeah, lets look at you IRQ's
[18:40] <ryanpg> holstein, honestly I've never gotten low latency with USB on linux
[18:41] <ryanpg> irq 18 is the usb bus I'm plugged into
[18:41] <holstein> cat /proc/interrupts
[18:41] <ryanpg> nothing else on that irq
[18:41] <holstein> and paste that to..
[18:41] <ryanpg> 80 root     -90   0     0    0    0 S    4  0.0   0:42.83 irq/18-uhci_hcd
[18:41] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[18:41] <holstein> OH
[18:41] <holstein> ok
[18:41] <holstein> hmmm
[18:41] <ryanpg> yeah, PR is -90
[18:42] <ryanpg> jackd is also -90
[18:42] <holstein> ryanpg: let me think a minute
[18:42] <holstein> but run
[18:42] <holstein> sudo qjackctl
[18:42] <holstein> and see if its the same
[18:42] <ryanpg> qjacktl is running now
[18:42] <ryanpg> but you mean run it as root?
[18:42] <holstein> yeah, sudo run it :)
[18:42] <musotek> holstein: thanks
[18:42] <holstein> musotek: let us know
[18:42] <holstein> i think thats do-able
[18:43] <musotek> ok
[18:43] <holstein> ryanpg: maybe just try turning it down even more
[18:43] <holstein> maybe 512 and 3
[18:43] <holstein> or 1024 and 3
[18:44] <ryanpg> oh man... I want to do live guitar effect processing
[18:44] <ryanpg> anything over 10ms is useless
[18:44] <holstein> ryanpg: that realtime checkbox is checked right?
[18:44] <ryanpg> sure is
[18:44] <holstein> in 'setup'
[18:44] <holstein> hmmm
[18:44] <holstein> if you set it up with the latency around 20ms or so
[18:44] <ryanpg> lol, just got another xrun
[18:44] <holstein> does it seem solid?
[18:45] <ryanpg> let's see
[18:45] <holstein> ryanpg: yeah, i dont think its permission
[18:45] <holstein> you can run it as normal user
[18:45] <ryanpg> k, bumped it up to about 20ms
[18:46] <holstein> that might just be all it can do
[18:46] <holstein> you might get better performance from your internal card
[18:46] <holstein> i hate to say
[18:46] <ryanpg> I hope not... others claim to get 4ms of latency from that
[18:46] <ryanpg> card
[18:46] <holstein> ryanpg: are you sure thats the IRQ ?
[18:46] <holstein> the right USB port?
[18:46] <ryanpg> absolutely
[18:47] <ryanpg> lsusb says bus 7
[18:47] <ryanpg> /proc/interrupts say 7 is irq 18
[18:47] <holstein> ryanpg: just for S&G
[18:47] <holstein> maybe try another port??
[18:47] <ryanpg> holstein, have tried every one on the laptops
[18:47] <holstein> seems like you got it set up well
[18:48] <ryanpg> yeah... uless I can set that irq to realtime
[18:48] <ryanpg> can't chrt do that?
[18:48]  * holstein is not sure
[18:48] <holstein> BUT
[18:48] <holstein> there was a guy in #opensourcemusicians talking about that
[18:48] <holstein> i think it was transmorgramofix
[18:48] <holstein> the #rakarrack guy
[19:09] <Adriannom> hi.  i have a laptop with ubuntu studio karmic.  since installing i've been unable to read usb drives unless i mount them manually.  i've had the same model laptop (hp 550) running hardy, karmic and lucid with no usb problems.  any ideas why i'm having this problem, or how i can start diagnosing?
[19:11] <holstein> hey Adriannom
[19:11] <Adriannom> hi :)
[19:11] <holstein> is this an ubuntustudio install?
[19:11] <holstein> or an upgrade?
[19:11] <Adriannom> install
[19:11] <holstein> and the others are standard installs?
[19:11] <holstein> ubuntu installs?
[19:12] <Adriannom> that's right
[19:12] <holstein> that might be a studio thing
[19:12] <holstein> im not sure
[19:12] <holstein> id have to go and check that out
[19:12] <holstein> and i dont have karmic studio installed
[19:12] <holstein> i would trouble shoot that just like an ubuntu issue though
[19:12] <holstein> i bet its a gconf setting
[19:13] <Adriannom> hm
[19:13] <holstein> or a package that needs to be installed
[19:13] <holstein> Adriannom: do CD's mount automaically?
[19:13] <Adriannom> yeah maybe overlooked package, but then more users would be having the same problem surely
[19:13] <Adriannom> i'll check
[19:13] <holstein> well
[19:13] <holstein> somethings are left out of studio
[19:14] <holstein> because of performance concerns
[19:14] <Adriannom> yeah, but everyone who uses audio uses usb drives, right? ;)
[19:14] <holstein> sure
[19:14] <holstein> you can mount them though
[19:14] <holstein> right?
[19:14] <Adriannom> yeah as root
[19:14] <holstein> OH
[19:14] <holstein> that might be a different thing altogether
[19:15]  * holstein missed the root user thing before
[19:15] <holstein> Adriannom: i have a great idea :)
[19:15] <holstein> why not upgrade that box to lucid
[19:15] <holstein> and then check it out after that
[19:15] <holstein> mabye that will fix it
[19:15] <Adriannom> cd isn't mounting automatically
[19:15] <holstein> then your on LTS :)
[19:16] <Adriannom> yeah ok
[19:16] <holstein> now i think its a user thing
[19:16]  * holstein did 2 studio install upgrades
[19:17] <holstein> and they went well
[19:17] <holstein> upgrades usually do pretty well these days
[19:17] <Adriannom> a user thing?  what do you think i've done?
[19:17] <holstein> well, you might not have done it
[19:17] <Adriannom> :P
[19:17] <holstein> but some permissions could be set wrong
[19:18] <holstein> might need to re-add yourself to a gourp
[19:18] <holstein> group*
[19:18] <holstein> maybe disk group
[19:18] <holstein> not sure though
[19:18] <holstein> i would google that before just adding it
[19:18] <Adriannom> ok i think upgrade first then
[19:18] <Adriannom> thanks :)
[19:18] <holstein> Adriannom: let me know
[19:18] <holstein> it could be as simple as
[19:18] <holstein> sudo adduser Adriannom disk
[19:19] <holstein> and that would do it
[19:19] <holstein> but i think upgrading is a good idea
[19:20] <Adriannom> heheh, i just pasted that in and it fixed it
[19:20] <Adriannom> i think i'm better off not upgrading since this is a production machine
[19:20] <Adriannom> any changes could be bad
[19:21] <Adriannom> using it to dj live ya see
[19:21] <Adriannom> but it's great that this is fixed, thanks a lot holstein :)
[19:22] <holstein> Adriannom: i hear you
[19:22] <holstein> 'if it aint broke' :)
[19:37] <ryanpg> holstein, now I'm getting xruns at 23.2 ms
[19:37] <ryanpg> :(
[19:37] <holstein> what did you change?
[19:37] <ryanpg> nothing, power went out - restarted and let jackd run
[19:38] <ryanpg> just got two xruns
[19:38] <holstein> i get an xrun every now and then
[19:38] <ryanpg> jackd -R -P89 -dalsa -dhw:1 -r44100 -p128 -n8
[19:38] <holstein> when i start a program
[19:38] <holstein> ryanpg: whats with -n8 ?
[19:38] <ryanpg> number of frames
[19:39] <holstein> yeah, why 8?
[19:39] <ryanpg> bumping up and up and up to find a stable number
[19:39] <holstein> try bumping the other one
[19:39] <holstein> leaving that one at -n2
[19:39] <holstein> or 3
[19:39] <ryanpg> jackd -R -P89 -dalsa -dhw:1 -r44100 -p512 -n2
[19:40] <holstein> ryanpg: whats that do?
[19:40] <holstein> ryanpg: i assume your in #jack ??
[19:40] <ryanpg> period = 512 frames (11.6 ms), buffer = 2 periods
[19:40] <ryanpg> running jackd from the command line
[19:40] <holstein> ryanpg: does that run stable?
[19:40] <ryanpg> so far
[19:41] <holstein> 11.6 is not bad
[19:41] <ryanpg> well.... 11.6 x 2
[19:41] <holstein> maybe you can get -p256 -n2
[19:41] <ryanpg> 11.6 ms latency for 512 frames, and two periods = 23.2 ms
[19:41] <ryanpg> maybe, I'll let this run a bit.... see if there's xruns
[19:42] <holstein> i think you can have too many periods
[19:42] <ryanpg> but 11.6 ms is really unacceptable for realtime signal processing
[19:42] <holstein> and make xruns
[19:42] <holstein> not sure though
[19:42] <ryanpg> well...
[19:42] <ryanpg> I'll go ahead and try
[19:42] <holstein> hell
[19:42] <holstein> try -p64 -n2
[19:43] <ryanpg> it usually takes around 20-30 seconds for the xruns to start
[19:43] <ryanpg> I'll give 64 2 a try
[19:47] <ryanpg> lol, xruns galore
[19:47] <ryanpg> but... I think I figured something out
[19:47] <ryanpg> it's either my graphics card or my wireless card that's interfering I think
[19:47] <ryanpg> because I get tons of xruns when starting a web browser
[19:48] <holstein> yeah
[19:48] <holstein> i get one when i start a browser usually
[19:48] <holstein> when i have it set at like 1.2ms
[20:23] <ryanpg> wow, well I don't need networking when I'm playing - so I'll just experiment with turning it off
[20:23] <ryanpg> holstein, thanks for your help!
[20:23] <holstein> ryanpg: anytime :)
[20:23] <holstein> let us know how it goes
[20:25] <ryanpg> will-do
[20:25] <ryanpg> later
[20:29] <prep> Holstein, breaker breaker one-nine
[21:46] <prep> How can I update to 10.10? Not showing in Update Manager.
[22:25] <prep> found it, later


 I dont watch NASCAR
 What is NASCAR?....is it that thing where people professionally drive left fast?
 How woud I know
 @SivaMachina the cubs won a year late
 @KMyers downloading Starcraft 2 into the laptop
 so battle.net doesn't want to install...
 ah, screw off telegram
 Strange, I will help you a bit later. Need to get ready
 ok, likewise
 what time are we looking at?
 i will find a way to stream SOMETHING tonight lol
 you can stream android games from the Play Games app
 WPB county?
 and i meant for twitch
 @SivaMachina - what is the earliest you can be ready?
 @govatent - last chance
 Sorry. Sitting in a uhaul now
 @KMyers are we staying at a hotel?
 If so I'll bring the Mi Box
 Um, yeh. I should book that shouldnt I
 Yep lol
 @KMyers, Depends how long this place takes. I'll assume 12 at the very latest. But most likely earlier.
 The earlier the better
 @Ivoriesablaze - Am I running by your place or are you able to grab a ride to the Tri Rail?
 I will even re-imburse you part of it as it will cut almost an hour off the trip :)
 My sister is going to take me to the station
 +1
 Sweet, I dont mind returnign you home
 returning
 @Ivoriesablaze - I will let you know as soon as we pickup @SivaMachina - that will give you aboput 45 minutes to get tot he Tri Rail station
 :(
 Normally those go away in a few minutes - unless the developer screwed it up
 Mm
 Its been like that for a few retries
 Before it would not let me us the Google Play Reward money
 Could be an issue with your ROM
 Darn
 I'm planning to get there at around 11 or 11:30
 @Ivoriesablaze, Thats a bit early, unless you want to take the train down
 I mean Keith has not even left his house yet lol
 OMG!!!
 This is EXACTLY why you dont root while tired
 root@office:/home/kmyers# fdisk -l … Disk /dev/sda: 1.8 TiB,<PHONE_NUMBER>016 bytes,<PHONE_NUMBER> sectors … Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes … Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes … I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes … Disklabel type: dos … Disk identifier: 0x000f4147 … Device     Boot Start        End    Sectors  Size Id Type … /dev/sda1  *     2048<PHONE_NUMBER> 390702
[13:42] <floridagram2> /dev/sdb: 7.5 GiB,<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes, 15646720 sectors … Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes … Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes … I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes … Disklabel type: dos … Disk identifier: 0x1db92256 … Device     Boot   Start      End  Sectors  Size Id Type … /dev/sdb1  *       2048  4894719  4892672  2.3G 83 Linux … /dev/sdb2       4896766 15644671 10747906  5
[13:42] <floridagram2> 5490687   593920  290M 82 Linux swap / Solaris … /dev/sdb6       5492736 15644671 10151936  4.9G 83 Linux … Disk /dev/sdc: 1.8 TiB,<PHONE_NUMBER>016 bytes,<PHONE_NUMBER> sectors … Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes … Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes … I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes … Disklabel type: dos … Disk identifier: 0x0003a94b … Device     Boot Start        End    Sectors
[13:42] <floridagram2><PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER>  1.8T fd Linux raid autodetect … Disk /dev/md0: 3.7 TiB,<PHONE_NUMBER>080 bytes,<PHONE_NUMBER> sectors … Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes … Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes … I/O size (minimum/optimal): 524288 bytes / 1048576 bytes … root@office:/home/kmyers#
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 I asked my datacenter to attach a KVM to one of my servers so I can re-image it along with an 8 GB flash drive.
 The 8 GB flash drive is so I can load an image to it and boot from it
 The Ubuntu installer installed to the Flash drive
 Lmao
 @KMyers I am home.
 Damn, that was fast
 And should be ready by the time you are ready to go and get here.
 Let me finish one thing, will leave in 30 minutes
 @ahoneybun - are you ready as well?
 pretty much
 just trying to add someone in a telegram group who left
 I said 12 early for a larger margin of error.
 @aa
 @ahoneybun I think that reuires you to exchange numbers
 yea I see that
 requires.
 @SivaMachina - can you message me your address
 Just hit the option to to install again
 sent
 Strange, I have not gotten it
 I kinda remember where he ia
 *is
 He moved
 Oh
 Ok, got it now
 I think I sent it before in "secret" chat.
 All packed, heading out
 K
 Is the plan to go to ThinkGeek after?
 That's not a good idea though lol
 😊
 I just reset the password online and it worked then
 At the station
 Eta?
 Just got me about to pick up @SivaMachina
 So about an hour, then...
 Let's get on 95 first for a eta
 @SivaMachina get ready
 About an hour @Ivoriesablaze
 Ok
 I'm down for think geek
 Never been there
 That what I was hinting towards earlier in the week!  I thought it was at 6
 No 5
 Dammit, I'm leaving now, will be 45 minutes at least
 Start without me
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 Almost to 535, but hit traffic
 Off I4, be there in 5
 See what you are missing @govatent
 You guys are evil
 Amazing!
 Does that mean you like it?
 what happened to the corner?  You're not supposed to eat the box!!!!
 I really wish I could have gone
 The pictures don't help
 Next time though for sure.
 Lol
 It's been a rough week
 @ahoneybun I can't tell from @KMyers response, did he like it?
 Yes he did
 good.  "you guys are evil" didn't sound like it.  I don't see why he wouldn't though.
 I'm glad he did.
 I am as well