[00:01] <Bashing-om> !ask | zacwalls
[00:02] <guzzi_jones> md0 is sda1 and sdb1 nieither of which have the bootable flag set.  i think i could just go into gparted and set that?
[00:03] <guzzi_jones> then uncheck the bootable falg for sda2 and sdb2 for md1 which is my original install
[00:03] <guzzi_jones> i thought i could set bootable on md0 and md1, but it won't allow that in gparted.
[00:05] <_TJ_> guzzi_jones: did you clone the md arrays, or create the new one fresh using "mdadm --create ..." ?
[00:23] <guzzi_jones> it was an array that was created on installation.
[00:23] <guzzi_jones> it used to be swap
[00:23] <guzzi_jones> i reformated it to ext4
[00:23] <guzzi_jones> on copied over from md1 to md0 preserving permissions
[00:25] <alfonsojon> Hi, it seems Ubuntu 14.04 is running much slower in VirtualBox than it did in 12.04
[00:26] <alfonsojon> I have 3D acceleration enabled and 2048MB RAM allocated to it, yet it still takes over three minutes to boot.
[00:26] <alfonsojon> Any suggestions?
[00:26] <rick68> does anyone know how to remove these printer desklets from the desktop?
[00:26] <Sachiru> Did you install guest additions for 14.04?
[00:27] <alfonsojon> Sachiru: Yes.
[00:27] <Sachiru> Also is 14.04 a clean install?
[00:27] <Sachiru> Or an in-place upgrade?
[00:27] <alfonsojon> Clean install.
[00:27] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: OK, so you don't have clashing MD GUIDs, so changing fstab and doing "update-grub" should be sufficient
[00:27] <alfonsojon> Host system is Elementary OS Luna (based on Precise), but I don't think that should matter much.
[00:28] <koell> Hod do I enable 256 colors in xterm? I already have the export xterm-256colors in my settings
[00:28] <rick68> how did you get 2G of ram, i thought 256M was the limit
[00:28] <alfonsojon> rick68: this is not 1994 ;)
[00:28] <rick68> for virtualbox
[00:28] <alfonsojon> Oh.
[00:28] <alfonsojon> It depends on the amount of RAM available to the host system
[00:28] <ObrienDave> that would be 1995 ;P
[00:28] <alfonsojon> I have 8GB RAM, so I can give it up to 6 GB safely, but it doesn't need that much
[00:29] <alfonsojon> Plus, I have the 32 bit version, so anything above 4GB wouldn't matter anyways
[00:29] <rick68> guess i havent used it in a while
[00:29] <alfonsojon> well, nevermind
[00:29] <alfonsojon> PAE fixes that
[00:30] <rick68> o wait, im thinking of gpu
[00:30] <alfonsojon> rick68: ah
[00:30] <rick68> thats still the limit, right?
[00:30] <alfonsojon> Yeah.
[00:30] <rick68> too bad
[00:30] <alfonsojon> It can go higher, but you need to give it something like 6 monitors
[00:31] <alfonsojon> lol
[00:31] <rick68> woah
[00:31] <alfonsojon> right now, I'm using it with dual monitor
[00:31] <alfonsojon> pretty neat
[00:31] <alfonsojon> if it weren't slow as molasses fresh out of the freezer
[00:32] <rick68> i used to run androidx86 on it, and 256 was not enough
[00:32] <alfonsojon> really?
[00:32] <TJ-> alfonsojon: probably because with 12.04 there was an option of "unity-2d" for non opengl hardware accelerated systems, but with 14.04 there is no such fall-back option?
[00:33] <rick68> so do you get 256 for each monitor?
[00:33] <alfonsojon> rick68: unfortunately not
[00:33] <TJ-> alfonsojon: Also, by "boot" do you to reach the logged-in user's desktop, or to reach the greeter?
[00:33] <alfonsojon> TJ-: Boot sequence is extremely slow, lightdm is slow (takes seconds to load), session is even slower (takes around 30 - 45 seconds to load gnome-session-flashback)
[00:34] <alfonsojon> using metacity, not compiz
[00:34] <alfonsojon> meaning it shouldn't be affected by opengl
[00:34] <TJ-> alfonsojon: is the underlying VM image a file, or a host block device (e.g. an LV) ?
[00:34] <rick68> so i got to admit, im still kind of green to linux, whats the best distro for handling video?
[00:34] <rick68> or does it matter
[00:34] <TJ-> alfonsojon: I'd boot it in Recovery mode and/or examine the dmesg and kern.log files
[00:35] <alfonsojon> rick68: not really
[00:35] <rick68> nice
[00:35] <alfonsojon> rick68: just get something based on debian or fedora, the others out there may not work with the software
[00:36] <rick68> ya i started with ubuntu, but liked the eye candy of kde, so i switched to kubuntu
[00:37] <alfonsojon> TJ-: It looks like I can get a speed boost by allocating the full storage rather than dynamically expanding it
[00:37] <guzzi_jones> TJ- thanks yes it looks like i need to just set the boot flag on the corresponding sdb1 and sda1 and undo sda2 and sdb2
[00:38] <alfonsojon> Not a fair comparison, but Windows XP boots in around 15 seconds in VirtualBox.
[00:38] <alfonsojon> Whereas Ubuntu takes around three minutes to reach the desktop
[00:38] <alfonsojon> (14.04)
[00:38] <rick68> so does anyone know hot to remove these printer desklets? (i think thats what theyre called)
[00:39] <alfonsojon> rick68: what distribution?
[00:39] <rick68> kubuntu
[00:39] <alfonsojon> on the desktop or taskbar?
[00:39] <rick68> desktop
[00:39] <alfonsojon> you should be able to hover it, then a little drawer will slide out
[00:39] <rick68> they magically appeared
[00:39] <alfonsojon> click the "X" on the drawer
[00:39] <rick68> nope
[00:39] <alfonsojon> do you see a little button in the top right?
[00:39] <rick68> no drawer
[00:39] <alfonsojon> kind of looks like a cashew?
[00:40] <rick68> i know what youre talking about
[00:40] <alfonsojon> alright, do you have that button or no?
[00:40] <WACOMalt> hey folks. I am looking for how to manually add a public GPG key for a repo I added
[00:40] <rick68> oh the one that says desktop
[00:40] <WACOMalt> I think the Release.gpg in this folder is what I need to add http://archive.zentyal.org/zentyal/dists/3.5/
[00:42] <rick68> alfonsojon yes i do
[00:42] <alfonsojon> WACOMalt: Not sure, sorry.
[00:42] <alfonsojon> rick68: click that
[00:42] <alfonsojon> then the drawers should (not sure, not a kubuntu user) appear
[00:42] <rick68> ooooh
[00:42] <rick68> let me try
[00:43] <rick68> alfonsojon nope, just a drop down menu
[00:43] <alfonsojon> what are the options?
[00:43] <rick68> alfonsojon and its the same menu as a right click
[00:43] <alfonsojon> oh.
[00:43] <alfonsojon> hmm
[00:43] <alfonsojon> I'm not sure then, sorry.
[00:44] <alfonsojon> I haven't used Kubuntu in a few months, I switched to Elementary.
[00:44] <alfonsojon> Sorry :(
[00:44] <rick68> np thanks anyways
[00:44] <rick68> whats that
[00:45] <alfonsojon> It's another distro based on Ubuntu 12.04
[00:45] <rick68> looking at it now....nice
[00:45] <alfonsojon> It looks snazzy.
[00:45] <alfonsojon> And it's fast.
[00:46] <rick68> any tearing issues on video?
[00:46] <alfonsojon> nope
[00:46] <rick68> that took a while to fix
[00:46] <alfonsojon> well, none that I know of
[00:46] <rick68> nvidia card?
[00:46] <rick68> with nvidia drivers?
[00:46] <alfonsojon> Yep
[00:46] <alfonsojon> nvidia-331 + GTX 550 Ti
[00:47] <rick68> haha
[00:47] <rick68> same one
[00:47] <alfonsojon> ah
[00:47] <alfonsojon> I get tearing in some games though
[00:47] <rick68> i found a way to disable effects on full screnn video, it helped
[00:48] <rick68> does it have the same eye candy that kde has?
[00:48] <rick68> i love this magic lamp
[00:48] <alfonsojon> not really
[00:48] <alfonsojon> Elementary is more professional-looking
[00:48] <rick68> ah
[00:49] <alfonsojon> Be back shortly, walking the dog
[00:57] <jellow> Hi I cannot use down arrow keys, When I press down arrow key a notification appears here is a screenshot http://imgur.com/FuK6yFq. Thanks
[00:58] <jellow> I don't think ctrl works either
[00:59] <daftykins> looks like your down arrow key is enacting the 'disable touchpad' function
[00:59] <rick68> jellow doesnt that mean your trackpad is not enabled <-guessing
[01:00] <alfonsojon> jellow: it seems your FN key is toggled on for some reason
[01:01] <rick68> i would almost try your hotkey settings
[01:01] <daftykins> ^no an Fn combo would be very unlikely to be placed on cursor down
[01:03] <rick68> alfonsojon thanks for that distro, btw
[01:03] <rick68> i think that might be waht im looking for for my office pc
[01:04] <rick68> i was looking at mint as a possibility
[01:04] <Guest78040> hi im having an issue setting up multiple monitors . . . i recompiled a kernel as instructed and now the monitors are detected in arandr but i get the following error when i hit enable:
[01:05] <Guest78040> XRandR returned error code 1: xrandr: Configure crtc 1 failed
[01:06] <Guest78040> where can i see where it failed?  That message is not very details
[01:08] <rick68> Guest78040 i had a bunch of multiple monitor problems, what worked for me was a fresh install with both monitors connected, i know it sounds bad, but it worked
[01:08] <rick68> i had a problem dragging windows from one to the other
[01:09] <Guest78040> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/node/358
[01:09] <Guest78040> i followed this wiki on mine
[01:10] <rick68> sorry, above my head
[01:11] <jellow> My right arrow is mapped to keycode 156 XF86Launch1 and down arrow is mapped to keycode 21 XF86TouchpadOff , Is there a gui to help remap keys?
[01:12] <rick68> jellow on kubuntu theres a system setting for shortcuts and gestures, dont remember if i saw it on ubuntu
[01:16] <guzzi_jones> well i got the sda2 and sdb2 to have the boot flag but how do i set the boot flag on a software raid device?
[01:17] <daftykins> what was your issue and what are you trying to achieve?
[01:17] <rick68> night everyon
[01:18] <OERIAS> good night rick68 switch over to Debian
[01:19] <daftykins> troll alert
[01:19] <guzzi_jones> i suppose i could load up the ubuntu-server installation iso and set it in there?
[01:19] <daftykins> guzzi_jones: got a desktop liveCD handy?
[01:21] <guzzi_jones> daftykins - yes i do
[01:22] <daftykins> guzzi_jones: use a disk partitioner in that
[01:22] <daftykins> you didn't really state the general challenge though so i can't be sure that's apt
[01:22] <guzzi_jones> i tried gparted.  it won't see both md0 and md1 raid devices
[01:22] <guzzi_jones> it only sees the physical devices and then the NON boot raid device
[01:23] <daftykins> how rude, some CLI tools might be more relevant then
[01:23] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: did you ensure both MD devices are assembled ("cat /proc/mdstat") ?
[01:24] <guzzi_jones> no.  i quit for the night.  the device it did see md0p1 or some wierd naming convention was the device i wanted to set boot on, but i went to manage flags it just said "flags"
[01:25] <guzzi_jones> like the programmer didn't get to that part of the code
[01:25] <guzzi_jones> :?
[01:25] <guzzi_jones> :/
[01:26] <guzzi_jones> thanks for all your help.
[01:27] <guzzi_jones> it seems to be impossible to change to boot flags on software riad drives.  I will try this weekend with the ubuntu-server cd.  maybe i can do it through that.
[01:28] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: md0p1 is partition 1 on /dev/md0
[01:29] <guzzi_jones> ahh ok that makes sense
[01:29] <guzzi_jones> TJ-: why couldn't it see md1p1 then?
[01:30] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: if the md devices aren't whole-disks they don't contain partition tables, so there is no boot flag to set
[01:31] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: and if the md devices are whole-disks, and are hosted in partitions, then the boot flags are in the partition table(s) of the two underlying whole disks
[01:32] <guzzi_jones> ok so i went and changed the boot flags to the smaller disks sda1 and sdb1 which are part of md0
[01:32] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: If mdadm hadn't assembled md1 there would be no partitions to find.
[01:32] <guzzi_jones> i then restarted.
[01:32] <guzzi_jones> and it still booted to md1
[01:33] <guzzi_jones> oh ok so check to see that md1 is assembled
[01:33] <guzzi_jones> still doesn't explain how i changed the boot flags and it booted to the wrong partition?
[01:33] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: how do you mean "booted to" ? you mean the root file-system was mounted via /dev/md1 ?
[01:33] <guzzi_jones> boot flag was set on sda1 and sdb1 ....
[01:34] <guzzi_jones> these are part of md0
[01:34] <guzzi_jones> ..
[01:34] <guzzi_jones> md0 contained an exact copy of my os.
[01:34] <guzzi_jones> from md1
[01:34] <guzzi_jones> i edited fstab and grub to use md0 UUId
[01:35] <guzzi_jones> i rebooted
[01:35] <guzzi_jones> df -h returned file size of md1 NOT md0
[01:35] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: the boot-flag in the partition table has nothing to do with which file-system is used as root. To set the root file-system requires the grub configuration to be updated so it writes a revised /boot/grub/grub.cfg which uses the UUID of the replacement root file-system
[01:36] <guzzi_jones> ok.  so on md1 i have a grub.cfg with UUID for md1
[01:36] <guzzi_jones> on md0 i have a grub.cfg with UUID for md0
[01:36] <Church> guzzi: do i understand right that you simply want to increase size of root fs that is placed on md mirror on partitions?
[01:37] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: and have you "grub-install /dev/sda /dev/sdb" to update grub's core.img so it knows which File-system contains /boot/ ?
[01:37] <guzzi_jones> i want to transfer my OS from md1 to md0
[01:37] <Church> do you have separate /boot ?
[01:38] <guzzi_jones> i did not do grub-install
[01:38] <guzzi_jones> i do not have separate boot
[01:40] <guzzi_jones> what is core.img?
[01:40] <Church> btw, for future setup of mirrored server fs layout on two disks i'd suggest doing it this way: md0 mirror of 512MB partition0 on both disks with /boot on it, then md1 mirror of both disks partition1 (on all the rest disk capacity) on which then use LVM to dynamically change diskspace allocation as you need.
[01:40] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: BIOS > valid boot disk (sector 0, offset 254=0x55AA) ? > read sector #0 and write to address 7C00 (this is GRUB MBR boot-strap) > MBR uses BIOS to read core.img from sector #1 onwards, which is the grub core.img > core.img 'mounts' the grub root (fiile-system containing /boot/grub/), reads grub.cfg, loads modules, does "normal" and displays the GRUB menu
[01:41] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: So this may be down to the hard disk you've got selected in BIOS boot order *if* you did "grub-install /dev/sdb" but not also "grub-install /dev/sda", for example
[01:41] <cliff1245> Hello Everyone, I am trying to get a Ubuntu Server 12.04 network up and running. It is a new build. It is installed as a VM on ESXi on a server.  The ESXi server is also running pfsense inline as my firewall. I wanted to connect the Ubuntu server to my LAN side of the firewall. Everytime I run if Config, the eth0 doesn't show a IP address or a gateway as if it's not getting an address from the dhcp server.  The primary network inter
[01:42] <TJ-> Church: I simply RAID1 the entire disks, much easier
[01:42] <daftykins> cliff1245: you got cut off at 'The primary network inter...'
[01:43] <cliff1245> The primary network interface in the /etc/network/interfaces file says "auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp" If my understanding is correct, I should be requesting my IP address from the DHCP server, is that correct? I have pfsense also running as a DHCP server. It is connected to a linksys switch/router that this machine that I'm using is connected to, so It should be working. Any suggestions as to how to get my ubuntu server connected
[01:43] <Church> TJ: LVM gives much much better flexibility .. with enabling doing most of needed reconfiguring later on online
[01:43] <raul782> Hi guys, what is the difference between ln -s and ln -nfs ?
[01:44] <daftykins> cliff1245: it obviously isn't attached to the right interface DHCP is running on
[01:44] <daftykins> cliff1245: you do see an interface yes?
[01:44] <Church> raul782: i'm too lazy to read manpage, but all i ever needed is to use -s or without it for ln, to make soft or hard links that is.
[01:44] <cliff1245> yes
[01:45] <raul782> I normally use ln -s, but when using capistrano I c they use ln -nfs
[01:45] <guzzi_jones> TJ-: why would i do grub install /dev/sdb?  and grub-install /dev/sda?
[01:45] <raul782> f as force that I understand
[01:45] <guzzi_jones> each of those have two partitions.
[01:45] <guzzi_jones> does that write the bootable drive to the mbr?
[01:45] <Church> TJ: and according to setup above which i employ everywhere, i simply drop MD usage, if there is HW raid or it's LUN from already raid-ed SAN. LVM simply imho is must have tool for any sysadmin
[01:45] <raul782> I guess the ln  -n option is the one I don't understand completely
[01:46] <cliff1245> root
[01:46] <cliff1245> boy am I glad I didn't enter in my password!
[01:47] <guzzi_jones> Church: yes i am going to a smaller parition so i can eventually go to lvm
[01:47] <guzzi_jones> Church: i am attempting to use my swap space as a temp area.
[01:47] <cliff1245> daftykins: thanks, I just realized I never rebooted after connecting the lan. :(
[01:48] <daftykins> cliff1245: whoops!
[01:48] <daftykins> cliff1245: fwiw though a server should never be DHCP
[01:49] <cliff1245> daftykins: how would you set the server up?
[01:49] <Church> guzzi_jones: btw, to that "ideal" setup of mine only one correction. It's best to start "small", as it's always easy to grow size, but much more hassle to reduce.
[01:49] <cliff1245> go into /etc/network/interfaces and change auto to static?
[01:49] <cliff1245> sorry, not auto, i meant dhcp
[01:49] <daftykins> cliff1245: yep then specify address, netmask, gateway - then remove resolvconf and hardcode DNS into /etc/resolv.conf
[01:52] <guzzi_jones> ok so i am reading on grub-install
[01:53] <guzzi_jones> "This will rewrite the MBR information to point to the current installation and rewrite some GRUB 2 files"
[01:53] <guzzi_jones> so...
[01:53] <Beldar> what
[01:53] <guzzi_jones> if i mount my NEW md0 at /media/new/
[01:54] <guzzi_jones> mount -B /proc /media/new/proc
[01:54] <guzzi_jones> mount -B /sys /media/new/sys
[01:54] <guzzi_jones> mount -B /dev /media/new/dev
[01:54] <hopesiner> hello all!
[01:54] <guzzi_jones> chroot /media/new
[01:54] <guzzi_jones> then run grub-install /dev/sda /dev/sdb
[01:54] <guzzi_jones> TJ-: ??
[01:54] <TJ-> sorry was making drinks ... Church I put md raid1 in first, then LVM
[01:55] <guzzi_jones> then i am "IN" my new system
[01:55] <tmTim> I am wondering why my router model number is showing at the end of my local hostname when I commit to git. any ideas?
[01:55] <TJ-> guzzi_jones: no, you want "mount --rbind /dev /media/new/dev" because you need the devpts at /dev/pts too
[01:55] <Beldar> TJ-, Can we order one?
[01:55] <guzzi_jones> TJ-: Drinks.. i need one.
[01:55] <tmTim> like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:55]  * TJ- DCCs a coffee to Beldar
[01:56] <Beldar> mmmm caffeine
[01:56] <daftykins> i'd say me too but it's 3am
[01:57] <hopesiner> i have a quick question, im looking at installing ubuntu on my old xp machine what i was using it for netflix but as support has ended for xp... i know pipelight doesn't work anymore towards netflix and chrome but is there another way?
[01:58] <guzzi_jones> TJ-: ok thanks.  i took some notes.  i will try that Sat.
[01:58] <Beldar> hopesiner, Ubuntu has a bit more draw on the hardware you sure it's what you need?
[01:58] <TJ-> daftykins: indeed it is... I promised myself early night at 10pm :p
[01:59] <daftykins> :D
[01:59] <Beldar> hopesiner, Both OS use the same repos
[02:00] <hopesiner> Beldar... i ran ubuntu with unity about a year or two ago then re-purposed it as a netflix device which xp was easier and the intel graphics are not supported for vista or 7
[02:01] <Beldar> hopesiner, Just trying to understand your end goal here, can you say it without the history?
[02:01] <hopesiner> beldar, ok sorry
[02:01] <Church> TJ-: of course LVM on MD raid if there is no HW raid beneath. But i avoid using plain partitions with just MD raid. In my sysadmin experience needed to reconfigure layout way too often to NOT use LVM.
[02:02] <TJ-> Church: Agreed entirely, /boot/ on a RAID1 primary partition, the rest LVM
[02:02] <hopesiner> Beldar, is it still possible iv heard theirs a netflix desktop app?
[02:02] <Beldar> hopesiner, The netflix ppa is releasing up to utopic
[02:03] <Beldar> hopesiner, I thought that was the only netflix  choice, were you using wine?
[02:04] <Beldar> that is the netflix desktop so to speak
[02:05] <hopesiner> Beldar, ahhh ok just wanted to make sure before doing anything to the desktop thank you!
[02:05] <hopesiner> :)
[02:05] <Beldar> hopesiner, no prob there are eol upgrades as well, if you need.
[02:06] <laspahr> ##dance
[02:06] <laspahr> oops
[02:07] <Beldar> laspahr, making your own channel
[02:08] <laspahr> nah I already have one, I was seeing if there was one heh..
[02:08] <Beldar> !alis | laspahr
[02:08] <laspahr> ah
[02:14] <sydney> Hi,i am running into this issue when i backup. dejadup says i dont have the permissions to back up a certain file,and i dont know what to do. :(
[02:14] <Beldar> sydney, Root files?
[02:14] <Beldar> what is the file in other words?
[02:15] <sydney> yes,in the home directory. :s /home/sydney/.cache/dconf
[02:15] <somsip> sydney: everything in there should be owned and grouped for the user. Is it?
[02:16] <sydney> everything except that one file :s
[02:16] <somsip> sydney: what is the file name?
[02:17] <Eric^^> the folder dconf is owned by root
[02:17] <sydney> dconf
[02:17] <sydney> But why is it in my home directory!!??
[02:18] <yoda_> question what is the difference between ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server downloads there is also ubuntu cloud
[02:18] <somsip> sydney: I've got it in .config too, and it's owned and grouped for the user. I'd say fix it
[02:18] <yoda_> in terms of packages or what the look and feel is
[02:18] <TJ-> yoda_: different collection of packages on the install image, different installation result
[02:18] <sydney> somsip: how?
[02:18] <Beldar> yoda_, One has a desktop one does not
[02:19] <TJ-> yoda_: cloud image doesn't need a lot of different support for varying hardware since it is targeted at virtual machines
[02:19] <Beldar> basically
[02:19] <flepine> sudo chown -R sydney:sydney /home/sydney/
[02:19] <somsip> sydney: chown -R sydney:sydney ~/.config/dconf (replace sydney with your real username)
[02:19] <TJ-> yoda_: server has the typical server packages, and can handle more complex disk organisation
[02:19] <sydney> somsip: sydney is my real user name :P
[02:20] <somsip> sydney: sorry, put a sudo on that and make it /home/user/sydney..etc
[02:20] <sydney> somsip: in other words,it will delete the file?
[02:20] <somsip> sydney: no, it makes it owned and grouped for the sydney user
[02:20] <somsip> sydney: and the contents (of the directory)
[02:21] <sydney> somsip: what if i just tell dejadup to ignore that file? ;) (just a thought) ;)
[02:21] <yoda_> ok but the all uses the same repo so one can be converted into the other by installing uninstalling packages correct so there was no real need to do it. Only for the fact that most people want to chose from those 3 standard builds in the general case
[02:22] <somsip> sydney: then you wont have a backup of it
[02:24] <sydney> somsip: so 'sudo chown -R sydney:sydney /home/sydney/.cashe/dconf'?
[02:25] <daftykins> *cache
[02:25] <sydney> daftykins: i just realized that :P does that look right?
[02:25] <daftykins> yes, though when user is the same as group, there's no need to do more than "user:"
[02:25] <daftykins> but that'll work fine yeah
[02:25] <daftykins> eeee: wb
[02:25] <yoda_> when did ubuntu first start having seperate downloads for desktop or server os's was that starting of some version of 12
[02:26] <eeee> thanks
[02:26] <daftykins> yoda_: no, years and years ago
[02:26] <yoda_> because 10 seemed to be all one distro for a few different archs
[02:26] <Beldar> yoda_, probably since forst release
[02:26] <Beldar> first*
[02:26] <daftykins> yoda_: nope even then it was server and desktop separate
[02:26] <yoda_> approx what year / version was that
[02:26] <Beldar> 1886
[02:27] <Beldar> version -<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:30] <yoda_> bullshit
[02:30] <TJ-> yoda_: Dapper Drake 6.06
[02:31] <sydney> somsip: thanks!!Wow,hiding an empty folder...
[02:31] <Beldar> yoda_, language please, all this info you can get from the web, this is support for serious matters not your wimsies.
[02:33] <yoda_> real so the info I read in this chain is the top info / current what people are studying / understanding
[02:33] <yoda_> cool
[02:34] <zacwalls> firefox crashed my pc. i want to prevent another crash. how can i do this?
[02:40] <TJ-> zacwalls: start Firefox in Safe mode, and then disable extensions
[02:45] <zacwalls> TJ-thanks
[02:45] <tonyt> anyone know if there is a way to paste in putty?
[02:46] <daftykins> yes, right click
[02:46] <daftykins> inside the main body of the window
[02:46] <tonyt> tried that. its not working
[02:47] <Clickbuzz> What is a .sh file?
[02:47] <somsip> Clickbuzz: usually, a bash script
[02:47] <yoda_> so then I am see sort of a trend on the number of actual in products to the number of products that just change there names ebox, zentyal ,   landscape ,...etc
[02:49] <ObrienDave> yoda_, do you have an actual Ubuntu support question?
[02:49] <Clickbuzz> somsip so I can write commands in a text editor, save the file as a .sh file. Give it executable permissions. and then execute it like a script?
[02:50] <jay__> is anyone experienced in dual booting with a natively linux computer?
[02:56] <jay__> anyone online?
[02:57] <somsip> Clickbuzz: basically, yes. Though best to add a shebang to it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_%28Unix%29
[02:57] <daftykins> jay__: yes you disappeared when i was replying... do you want to put Windows on after the fact? is that the idea?
[02:57] <Clickbuzz> somsip: lol I like the way that sounds...add a "SHEBANG!"
[02:57] <jay__> my internet disconnected, my bad
[02:58] <jay__> and i wanted to dual boot possibly. but i need to know fi my windows xp recovery disc works for dual booting, of if i need to get a windows xp disc from a store or online
[02:58] <somsip> Clickbuzz: you could add a kerpow, but that would just be silly ;)
[02:59] <Loshki> Clickbuzz: a shebang (also called a sha-bang, hashbang, pound-bang, hash-exclam, or hash-pling)...
[02:59] <daftykins> jay__: XP is dead now, nobody should be installing it for anything. ever.
[02:59] <jay__> im asking if something like that would work though,. i also have a vista recovery and win 7 recovery
[02:59] <daftykins> jay__: but in a dualboot plan you should really be putting Windows on first to make life easy
[03:00] <Clickbuzz> somsip: so the shebang #!/bin/sh basically passes the rest of my script to a specific program/interpreter for the script?
[03:01] <Clickbuzz> somsip well !# not the other one
[03:01] <Clickbuzz> somsip err #!
[03:01] <somsip> Clickbuzz: basically, yes...#! (the ! is the bang!)
[03:02] <jay__> daftykins: i needed to know is a recovery disc works for dual booting.
[03:02] <daftykins> jay__: it really depends what you define as being a recovery disc, i'd consider it standard Windows install media.
[03:03] <daftykins> jay__: if that's just some packaged up way of putting back on all the cruft that came with a system, then it'll work in a way.
[03:03] <jay__> daftykins: it's the factory reset disc's i got when i bought my various computers in the past.
[03:04] <Clickbuzz> somsip: so if I were making a script to configure ufw  #! /bin/sh would let me run the script? Its just a series of ufw commands
[03:04] <daftykins> jay__: you know you can only use those on the ones they came with?
[03:05] <daftykins> Clickbuzz: that's how shell scripting works, sure
[03:05] <somsip> Clickbuzz: yes. Though you would eiter need to sudo {myscript} or have sudo prefix each command in the script (no space in #!/bin/bash)
[03:05] <jay__> daftykins: thats what i needed to know lol
[03:06] <Clickbuzz> daftykins: its just kinda confusing picking the right thing to use. there bash, sh when look to point to dash
[03:06] <daftykins> and he left, just like that
[03:06] <daftykins> not realising he should've been in ##windows this whole time =|
[03:06] <Clickbuzz> daftykins: I never know what runs what
[03:06] <daftykins> stick to bash. also, go to a channel relevant for this topic, such as #bash
[03:07] <Shadow}}> Hey daftykins: Can you help me out?
[03:07] <Clickbuzz> daftykins: will do. didnt know it existed
[03:07] <daftykins> depends if i know anything about your question, Shadow}}
[03:08] <Shadow}}> You do as much as I do so greater I presumed. I'm curious which version of Ubuntu is the most user friendly for complete linux newbies.
[03:08] <daftykins> uuuuuh, i don't typically run desktop so i can't really comment on that one
[03:09] <Shadow}}> daftykins: Its for my mother's computer so all that is required is easy networking, firefox, and if possible Solitaire... Like windows version of it.  That UEFI in that thing causes alot of unwanted blockage.
[03:12] <grache28> Hi - After installing grub was configured with /dev/sda1 as the windows boot loader, sda1 is Windows recovery partition, and sda2 is the actual Windows partition. I've tried editing /etc/grub.d/40_custom with an entry for /dev/sda2, but when I do sudo update-grub it doesn't seem to accept/see that entry
[03:12] <daftykins> i'm pretty confident i can make UEFI installs work on any setup now
[03:13] <TJ-> Shadow}}: The issues with UEFI are mostly buggy implementations by the motherboard manufacturers
[03:13] <Shadow}}> You may! But I'll be using a simple live cd to do so with networking. I'm not linux savvy by any means.
[03:13] <daftykins> grache28: sounds like you're attempting to use GRUB v1 methodology to resolve GRUBv2
[03:13] <Shadow}}> Agreed TJ-
[03:13] <daftykins> Shadow}}: right, we all install from simple live media - so that'd be fine yes ;)
[03:13] <daftykins> Shadow}}: you just need to know the difference between booting in UEFI mode and not
[03:14] <Shadow}}> Alrighty. So its safe to assume that even being a all-in-one machine if I wipe the drives then I can install Ubuntu from Live-CD?
[03:15] <daftykins> well why don't you dualboot to start with? if your mums use-case is as you say, then it's not like disk space will be an issue
[03:15] <Shadow}}> Oh? Can Grub be coded to boot in non uefi mode?
[03:15] <Shadow}}> It won't.
[03:15] <daftykins> so keep both \o/
[03:15] <Shadow}}> Wait, DualBOOT?
[03:15] <daftykins> do a 50/50 split maybe
[03:15] <daftykins> sure
[03:16] <TJ-> Shadow}}: If you boot the ISO in EFI mode, then you can install alongside Windows. Both Windows and Ubuntu will have entries in the UEFI boot menu
[03:16] <Shadow}}> I tried instaling Mythbuntu alongside win8 a year ago but it blocks the os from starting and i can't even find the menu.lst to remove the mythbuntu..
[03:16] <daftykins> yeah you too are trying to use GRUBv1 methods
[03:16] <TJ-> Shadow}}: The default will be Ubuntu, but by pressing, at boot-time, the key that brings up the manual boot menu, you'll be able to choose which OS ... no need for GRUB to deal with Windows chainloader when using UEFI
[03:17] <daftykins> anyway, that was mythbuntu, not normal ubuntu
[03:17] <grache28> daftykins: oh, i thought that was grub 2 - http://ubuntuguide.net/manually-addingremoving-entries-to-grub-2-menu
[03:17] <Shadow}}> Truetrue. Alright. So, What do ya'll say Ubuntu or a specific version of ubuntu?
[03:18] <daftykins> knowing the spec would still be nice
[03:18] <grache28> daftykins: do you have any info on the grub2 methodology?
[03:18] <daftykins> !grub
[03:18] <Shadow}}> 1.7GZ APU, AMD..Erm what else..
[03:18] <daftykins> Shadow}}: why not boot live media then see which she likes? at the end of the day you're going to have to support it ;)
[03:18] <daftykins> well the intended network interface would be important to get it online :>
[03:19] <daftykins> actually i think a lot of the AMD APUs still give graphics issues, not sure if they've all been ironed out yet
[03:19] <Shadow}}> Trust me. I despise that machine, Thus why its hers.
[03:20] <Shadow}}> But she can't take Windows 8's bullcrap anymore either. And I'm sick of wifi intruders.
[03:20] <daftykins> wifi what now?
[03:21] <Shadow}}> I really don't know, Some dude has been jacking into any desktops with built-in wifi adapters for years now. That win8 is like..A cess pool every day anew.
[03:21] <grache28> daftykins: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Configuring_GRUB_2
[03:22] <daftykins> Shadow}}: you have proof of this 0o
[03:22] <Shadow}}> I have his mac address but thats beside the point.
[03:22] <grache28> According to that it seems I used the correct methodology, which part specificly was grub1?
[03:23] <daftykins> Shadow}}: well it's quite interesting because i somewhat doubt that's going on to a patched system (:
[03:23] <daftykins> or if it is, i'd get the guy convicted
[03:23] <Shadow}}> Anyway I'm off to bed, Was just checking what to download to install tomorrow. Hm?
[03:24] <daftykins> they're free, download them all... try them all...
[03:24] <daftykins> got a 4GB flash drive? that's 3 or 4 on one drive to try ;)
[03:24] <Shadow}}> Oh. I'm not concerned about it, Doesn't leave any tracks and doesn't get into MY terminal only that win8 crud maker.
[03:24] <daftykins> hating on Windows is just a sign you can't make it work :)
[03:25] <Shadow}}> You sound like microsoft trying to dispute my case of flash in IE having builtin whitelisting/blacklisting(s). -Rolls eyes-
[03:26] <Rajvi> Hi Guys, My system time is wrong.. both manaul & time server.. I am not able to correct the time
[03:27] <Rajvi> I am on UTC+5:30 GMT, however i can't seem to figure a way to get this right
[03:28] <daftykins> ntpdate
[03:30] <Guest4269> hello guys
[03:30] <Bashing-om> Rajvi: ^^. Also dual booting with Windows? Such that Windows is controlling the hard ware clock ?
[03:32] <Rajvi> I am not dual booting.. its a fresh installof 14.01 which update to 14.04.1 automactically
[03:33] <Rajvi> 14.04 work fine for me ! Dunno if they reintroduce some bugs
[03:34] <daftykins> just because your clock is wonky doesn't mean the entire OS is at fault
[03:34] <Guest4269> installed ubuntu first time, it went well apart from the prob i had with my 2 intel 520 ssd drives being in RAID 0 mode which i had disable
[03:35] <Guest4269> to disable*
[03:35] <Rajvi> i also did nt server update, no go
[03:37] <Guest4269> can someone help me figure out why my mouse arrow is shivering? tia
[03:40] <Guest4269> hello?
[03:41] <napster> .msg alist list reg
[03:41] <napster> sorry guys
[03:41] <napster> missed a slash
[03:41] <ObrienDave> Guest4269, optical or mechanical mouse?
[03:41] <daftykins> you'll be missing more than that if you don't move to your status window, napster
[03:41] <daftykins> ;)
[03:41] <Guest4269> optical
[03:42] <napster> daftykins not sure I understand :-?
[03:42] <ObrienDave> Guest4269, have you cleaned the lens lately?
[03:42] <daftykins> napster: nevermind.
[03:42] <Guest4269> the arrow is shivering like crazy
[03:43] <ObrienDave> daftykins, your team ;P
[03:43] <ObrienDave> constantly?
[03:43] <Guest4269> it works fine under windows
[03:43] <Guest4269> yup constantly
[03:43]  * napster is thinking what exactly is a status window :S :)
[03:44] <ObrienDave> napster, the one that says freenode
[03:44] <daftykins> ObrienDave: team 0o
[03:44] <ObrienDave> rofl ;P
[03:44] <Guest4269> the arrow doesn't shake but its kinda pulsating very fast
[03:45]  * napster feeling completely alienated. where in the world am I?
[03:45] <ObrienDave> Guest4269, just for fun, unplug and replug the mouse
[03:45] <Guest4269> ok
[03:46] <ObrienDave> napster, daftykins was trying to explain that your command only works in the status window, not the channel window
[03:47] <daftykins> nah i was hinting they should be run there only
[03:47] <daftykins> for safety
[03:47] <ObrienDave> yea, and that too LOL
[03:47] <napster> ObrienDave ah! this is a mac client guys. Textual.
[03:47] <Guest4269> i unplugged and plugged it in and it's the same =(
[03:47] <napster> it works fine even if I use the channel window.
[03:48] <ObrienDave> ok, my mistake
[03:48] <napster> :)
[03:48] <daftykins> yeah see i didn't mean that ;)
[03:48] <Jeffrey_f> Rajvi: what are you dual booting
[03:48] <ObrienDave> Guest4269, i have no idea why that is happening
[03:48] <napster> by the way I was looking out for regular expression channels. #regex has everybody sleeping. wanna discuss some regex stuff?
[03:49] <napster> linux users are supposed to be regex experts :D
[03:50] <ObrienDave> right, i don't even know all of the IRC commands LOL
[03:50] <Jeffrey_f> napster: did you try #ubuntu-offtopic?
[03:50] <Guest4269> also i have nvidia gtx 680 card, do i need to install nvidia drivers?
[03:50] <napster> not yet, let me see
[03:51] <ObrienDave> Guest4269, probably won't hurt, can't guarantee it will fix the cursor issue
[03:51] <edition> I have a document of entries, separated with "#end"... how to create HTML from a Shell script?
[03:51] <somsip> edition: try in #bash
[03:51] <edition> thanks
[03:52] <ObrienDave> Guest4269, does cursor shake when slowly moving the mouse?
[03:52] <peterrooney> I see a headache in your future
[03:52] <somsip> edition: they should be able to help on parsing the file anyway. You'll have to look more for the HTML ouput you want
[03:52] <Guest4269> cos at the graphics kinda tear when i move a video window or play flash games
[03:53] <Guest4269> the cursor is pulsating like mad
[03:54] <DanaG> Say, do any of you have a 1280x720 display?  I need to EDID-override a system, so it would be a massive help if somebody with such a display would run 'read-edid > somefilename', then either upload the file somewhere, or pastebin the output of 'xxd somefile'.
[03:55] <ObrienDave> Guest4269, try changing cursor sets
[03:56] <daftykins> DanaG: does your display fail to give a correct EDID? is it VGA?
[03:57] <DanaG> Actually, it's an IPMI device, with no monitor attached.  The device is capable of up to 1920x1080, but running 1280x720 gives me the best balance of real estate and not filling the viewer's screen.
[03:57] <meganerd> DanaG: I have a TV that is annoying like that.  Advertises 1024x768 even though it is 720p
[03:57] <Guest4269> obrien, where do i look for cursor sets?
[03:57] <daftykins> IPMI 0o
[03:58] <DanaG> If I use drm_kms_helper.edid_firmware=<some edid.bin>, the "ast" KMS driver gives a better resolution.  Default is 1024x768.
[03:59] <DanaG> Thankfuly, llvmpipe on Haswell is fast enough that the network connection is usually the limit, even with Gnome Shell.  Gnome Shell is actually better for it, because the viewer doesn't pass alt-tab.
[04:00] <Guest4269> obrien, just noticed if i stop streaming from bbc iplayer the cursor calms down
[04:02] <ObrienDave> hmm, interesting
[04:02] <Guest4269> im using latest ubuntu
[04:02] <Guest4269> it updated itself
[04:03] <ObrienDave> i'm on Xubuntu. you might find cursor sets under mouse settings, not sure
[04:03] <Guest4269> cool i'll have a look
[04:06] <Guest4269> i searched in Unity for 'mouse', can't see any cursor settings, its very basic
[04:09] <BSODInTheSky> ChanServ: How did you do that in nanoseconds?
[04:09] <BSODInTheSky> :O
[04:10] <ObrienDave> Guest4269, i don;t know where your mouse cursors are. try appearance
[04:13] <Guest4269> no luck under appearence
[04:18] <Awoken> Guest4269: sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool
[04:18] <Awoken> always seconds too late :p
[04:21] <lowlanding> howdy
[04:22] <lowlanding> brap brap
[04:23] <Sir_Leto> anyone able to figure out why I only have stero audio through HDMI?
[04:23] <Sir_Leto> and not 5.1?
[04:24] <DanaG> sir_leto: Is your video card one of the models that can do true multichannel digital audio?  For example, any Radeon older than HD5xxx can't do it.
[04:24] <Sir_Leto> really>
[04:24] <Sir_Leto> I've used it for years
[04:25] <Sir_Leto> I have a radeon hd 4670
[04:25] <DanaG> hmm, that one might do it, after all...
[04:26] <daftykins> Sir_Leto: you can't ask xbmc things in here
[04:26] <Sir_Leto> I wasn't asking about xbmc in particular
[04:26] <DanaG> Does the gnome audio control panel offer 7.1?
[04:26] <Sir_Leto> I was asking about system wide audio
[04:26] <Sir_Leto> I'm using xubuntu, and no
[04:27] <DanaG> hmm.
[04:27] <Sir_Leto> I'm running 14.04
[04:27] <DanaG> waitaminute... I seem to recall reading that the Radeon open-source drivers didn't have multichannel LPCM.  Though, last time I checked was about a year ago.
[04:28] <DanaG> Is this a sudden change, or has it never worked in Ubuntu?  (with open-source drivers, that is)
[04:28] <Sir_Leto> I haven't used linux in a long time, but I'm pretty sure it used to work.
[04:30] <DanaG> hmm, you might want to ask in #alsa and #radeon, as well.
[04:31] <Sir_Leto> I think it's using pulse
[04:31] <Sir_Leto> I'll try using asla
[04:31] <p4_> hello
[04:31] <meganerd> pulse is just a layer on top of alsa
[04:31] <p4_> :)
[04:32] <DanaG> PulseAudio is fanciness on top of ALSA; ALSA is the actual drivers.  Plus a bit from the video driver, since HDMI mixes audio and video.
[04:57] <brucelee> trying to set up my preseed file, running into some confusion, hopefully one of you experts can clear it up for me :)
[04:57] <brucelee> if i want to make a preseed file ask me for network information, how do i do?
[04:57] <brucelee> from what im reading here: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html, seems like i have to uncomment the "Static network configuration" lines
[04:59] <brucelee> can someone confirm :)
[05:01] <deitarion> How do I craft an apt-get command that means "just install/purge the packages which DO exist" without the sluggishness and clutter of going package-by-package using a shellscript for loop?
[05:16] <supaplex> I need a 802.11gn usb adapter that can use master (AP) mode (eg, hostapd) for more than 7 clients. Firmware/SoC ram limitations on the ath9k_htc (AR9271) cannot run more than 7 associated clients at once. TIA.
[05:16] <qwebirc21715> hi
[05:20] <bluegoon> Hi guys
[05:20] <bluegoon> My system keeps locking up
[05:20] <bluegoon> total freeze, cant switch TTY, nothing.
[05:20] <bluegoon> Checked temps, all fine
[05:21] <bluegoon> NVIDIA card
[05:22] <brucelee> found the answer to my question...
[05:22] <brucelee> have another question now... what does the mirror suite in the preseed file mean
[05:23] <brucelee> i guess thats the package
[05:24] <bluegoon> It just keeps locking up
[05:24] <bluegoon> Think I should re-install everything
[05:24] <brucelee> actually my main question is how can i set my preseed file to go through installation without having to download anything
[05:27] <ObrienDave> bluegoo.... sheesh
[05:33] <cjnm> ls
[05:55] <bluegoon> I dont think these Nvidia drivers are OK
[05:55] <bluegoon> With 14.04
[06:01] <nikolam_> I dunno what to do with this .deb/apt it asks me to run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' and then sits down saying "RSetting up libgempc430 (1.0.7-2) , estarting PCSC Lite resource manager pcscd" forever
[06:03] <histo> nikolam_: are you using a ppa?
[06:07] <hanuman> I am trying to install java on Ubuntu but I couldn't.Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. :Depends: default-jre-headless (= 1:1.6-43ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed                Depends: openjdk-6-jre (>= 6b23~pre11-1ubuntu1~) but it is not going to be installed
[06:10] <nikolam_> histo, yup and what about it. want me to disable them to see if it gets better?
[06:10] <nikolam_> dpkg was interrupted while installing something
[06:11] <nikolam_> and he was interrupted because he was active for a long time doing nothing
[06:11] <histo> !info libgempc430
[06:11] <nikolam_> I guess problem is that he can not restart pcscd
[06:11] <histo> !info pcscd
[06:11] <nikolam_> so what about it
[06:11] <histo> nikolam_: who is he?
[06:12] <nikolam_> histo, dpkg
[06:13] <histo> nikolam_: you could stop pcscd manually
[06:14] <hanuman> I am trying to install java on Ubuntu but I couldn't. Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[06:14] <histo> nikolam_: sudo stop pcscd
[06:14] <nikolam_> yes i tried it keeps restarting and have no affect to dpkg command. it just fails then
[06:15] <nikolam_> Errors were encountered while processing: libgempc430 libgempc410
[06:15] <histo> nikolam_: are you even using smart cards?
[06:15] <nikolam_> and there are 3 processes named pcscd . I tried and it obviously does not work. Even smart card reader is now not attached
[06:16] <nikolam_> I went and installed everything regarding smart cards i was thinking should make it work and obviously something of that is in collision
[06:18] <nikolam_> and it keeps displaying this on every sudo command, but that is there since 13.10->14.04 update: "no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory"
[06:19] <histo> nikolam_: do you use any of the packages that apt is complaining about?
[06:19] <user123321> http://pastebin.com/RkKpsNsf <----  This is the interfaces file of an LUbuntu VM that cannot connect to internet nor access to router's page. Any ideas?
[06:19] <user123321> I've used CARP
[06:20] <histo> wth is carp
[06:20] <user123321> Common Address Redundancy Protocol
[06:20] <histo> user123321: why?
[06:20] <user123321> histo, for servers :)
[06:21] <user123321> for example, backup taking in charge when main fails.
[06:21] <histo> user123321: anyhoot what kind of output do you get with route
[06:21] <histo> user123321: like bonded interface okay
[06:21] <user123321> Kernel IP routing table
[06:21] <user123321> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[06:21] <user123321> <IP_ADDRESS>     *               <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth0
[06:22] <user123321> oops
[06:22] <user123321> does it make sense?
[06:22] <MoundBob> Is there a keyring app installed on ubuntu by default?
[06:23] <histo> user123321: is ther interface up?
[06:23] <histo> s/ther/the
[06:24] <user123321> histo, iface is up, I restarted eth0
[06:24] <user123321> MoundBob, keyring?
[06:24] <user123321> btw, the gateway is * over there, right? o.O
[06:24] <user123321> in my host, I have <IP_ADDRESS> as gateway
[06:24] <user123321> not in VM
[06:25] <histo> user123321: why are you using lubuntu for server stuff in the first place?  Just curious
[06:25] <user123321> histo, it's the same as ubuntu right?
[06:25] <histo> user123321: Do you need the desktop environment for some reason?
[06:26] <user123321> histo, I'd prefer a GUI atm :D
[06:26] <histo> user123321: ip route   shows what?
[06:26] <histo> user123321: also make sure their network manager isn't running wild with your connections
[06:26] <histo> user123321: and have you tried pinging by ip and seeing if it's a DNS issue?
[06:27] <user123321> histo,  <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:28] <user123321> I can ping to my VM
[06:28] <histo> user123321: then what is the issue?
[06:28] <user123321> VM cannot connect to internet
[06:28] <histo> user123321: can the vm ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:29] <user123321> histo, connect: Network is unreachable
[06:29] <user123321> but my host can
[06:29] <histo> user123321: can the vm ping the gateway?
[06:30] <user123321> histo, no
[06:30] <dada> aloha! what's the status with 14.04 LTS? why Update Manager (currently on 12.04, set to "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version: For long-term support versions") still doesn't offer me to upgrade?
[06:30] <nikolam_> histo, your questions are normal but not helping, thanks.
[06:31] <user123321> histo, It seems that the VM with UCARP currently active cannot ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:31] <nikolam_> no those are libraries not applications, and i am not using them
[06:31] <nikolam_> problem is with apt / dpkg that has a problem with restarting service that would not restart and then fails to fix state of packages
[06:32] <histo> nikolam_: I'm trying to figure out if you even need the service. If not just remove it.
[06:32] <user123321> histo, Is it a must that the gateway's IP be shown in route command?
[06:33] <nikolam_> histo, well to remove it, i need working apt/dpkg, right. and it is not working
[06:33] <histo> user123321: no the * is correct
[06:33] <user123321> histo, I see, but my host shows <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:33] <user123321> as gateway
[06:34] <histo> user123321: ahh you don't have a gateway defined in your interfaces
[06:35] <histo> user123321: define gate <IP_ADDRESS> udner your netmask line
[06:35] <user123321> histo, I did try to define, but it didn't work. Shall I try defining again?
[06:35] <user123321> ok
[06:35] <histo> user123321: Also I would try commenting otu the ucarp stuff just to make sure networking is workign first.
[06:37] <mal10c> hello world
[06:38] <histo> !test | mal10c
[06:40] <histo> user123321: any luck?
[06:42] <hanuman> I am trying to install java on Ubuntu but I couldn't. Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[06:42] <user123321> histo, with gateway, can't still ping <IP_ADDRESS>. I commented CARP stuff, then I could ping <IP_ADDRESS>, but browser cannot access the internet. DHCP pool summary of my router did not have an IP assigned for my VM, is it because of static ip in interfaces file?
[06:42] <histo> user123321: yes, and you can't reach a website because of no nameservers
[06:43] <user123321> histo, let me remove static part.
[06:43] <histo> user123321: no you can leave it
[06:43] <histo> user123321: just define nameservers
[06:44] <histo> user123321: do you have the resolvconf package installed?
[06:44] <MoundBob> When I use this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7921302/ how does the data in the loop device synchronize the file that was attached to it?
[06:45] <histo> user123321: if you do just add a line dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>  or use your ISPs
[06:46] <ahinsingh1140>  /msg nickserv help identify
[06:46] <ahinsingh1140>  /msg nickserv help identify
[06:46] <histo> MoundBob: the loop device is the file
[06:47] <histo> MoundBob: why are you doing it that way?
[06:47] <histo> you could just dd tot he file.  Don't quite understand the need for the loop device int he first place.
[06:50] <histo> MoundBob: nvm just saw you want to write to the filesystem
[06:50] <Vampir3> hi everyone, i create a OpenVPN connection, but when i click on it nothing happen, is there any solution to fix that? (Ubuntu 14.04)
[06:50] <user123321> histo, this is surprising, I now have only "auto lo
[06:50] <user123321> iface lo inet loopback
[06:50] <user123321> auto eth0" in interfaces, still cannot connect to internet with browser.
[06:51] <user123321> shall I get resolveconf
[06:51] <poobutt> hi i have just run update / upgrade on ubuntu server running on hypervisor and am asked for grub location please help as i am not sure http://imgur.com/wxCUpp4
[06:52] <histo> user123321: dpkg -l | grep resolvconf
[06:53] <trijntje> Hi all, I'm trying to make a backup of all the files on an external harddrive. I've used 'rsync -avr --delete source/ dest', but after completion the dest is 15 GB bigger then the source. What could be going on?
[06:54] <Vampir3> hi everyone, i create a OpenVPN connection, but when i click on it nothing happen, is there any solution to fix that? (Ubuntu 14.04)
[06:54] <histo> poobutt: /dev/sda should be it
[06:54] <poobutt> thanks histo
[06:55] <user123321> histo, I remove auto eth0 as well, because I don't have it in my host that can connect to internet, and rebooting VM to check its effect.
[06:55] <user123321> removed*
[06:55] <histo> trijntje: different filesystems?
[06:55] <trijntje> histo: no, both are ext4
[06:55] <histo> user123321: I thought you wanted static ip?
[06:55] <histo> trijntje: have you tried diff'ng the directories?
[06:56] <trijntje> histo: I tried, but both are 1TB disks, so dirdiff runs out of memory. Is there another tool I should use?
[06:56] <histo> trijntje: diff dir1 dir2
[06:56] <histo> ahh
[06:56] <user123321> histo, oh phew, now it works. But now it's with no CARP. So I'll put back the settings back to make it CARP enabled.
[06:57] <trijntje> histo: I also tried that, but it just ran for hours at 5% cpu without any output, so I closed it
[06:57] <histo> user123321: If you would stop... The issue is your DNS for not resolving web addresses
[06:57] <histo> trijntje: trying to think of a way to hash it
[06:57] <histo> trijntje: how are you checking the size?
[06:58] <trijntje> histo: df -h
[06:58] <histo> trijntje: try sync
[06:58] <histo> then check
[06:58] <user123321> histo, oh ok
[06:58] <trijntje> histo: I already rebooted after running rsync
[06:58] <histo> ughh
[06:59] <DanaG> trintje: did you specify an argument that makes rsync follow symlinks?  If so, it would copy files rather than linking them.
[06:59] <histo> trijntje: and if you run rsync again?
[06:59] <DanaG> handy tool: 'ncdu'.
[06:59] <histo> that could be
[06:59] <user123321> histo, I got a respose for resolve
[06:59] <user123321>  dpkg -l | grep resolvconf
[06:59] <user123321> ii  resolvconf                               1.69ubuntu1.1                        all          name server information handler
[07:00] <trijntje> histo: running now, it will take some time though
[07:00] <histo> trijntje: it shouldn't as files should match
[07:01] <histo> trijntje: what types of files are you copying?
[07:02] <s4kk4t> Hello,
[07:02] <s4kk4t> I have the script pasted at https://dpaste.de/X4nn/
[07:02] <s4kk4t> The variable FFMPEG_PROC_RUNNING_CNT is always being set to 2 and the script is failing.
[07:02] <s4kk4t> When i run the relevant part of the snippet in a shell as shown at https://dpaste.de/w3aY/
[07:02] <s4kk4t> it is returning a valid value. Can anyone tell me what i am doing wrong ?
[07:02] <trijntje> histo: music, a lot of pictures, documents, iso's, disk images, its a lot of stuf
[07:03] <s4kk4t> I am running ubuntu 14.04 IIRC
[07:03] <trijntje> histo: rsync is done, no output, but still a 15GB difference in usage
[07:03] <histo> trijntje: I still suspect one of the filesystems needs to be fsck'd your files should all match though.
[07:03] <anandcse2009> hi what is the difference b/w ssh and rsh
[07:04] <s4kk4t> anandcse2009: ssh is more secure
[07:04] <s4kk4t> modern alternative
[07:04] <s4kk4t> because its encrypted
[07:05] <anandcse2009> thanks s4kk4t
[07:05] <trijntje> histo: what do you mean? there are no complaints about fs damage in dmesg for either harddisk
[07:05] <histo> trijntje: That's the only thing I can think off. Unless you have sparse files or something.
[07:06] <histo> s/off/of/
[07:06] <trijntje> histo: hmm, thats a good point, but how to check for that?
[07:07] <histo> trijntje: well you can just fsck each FS and then compare size
[07:08] <histo> trijntje: if you created sparse files then that's definately an issue. If you don't know what sparse files are or how to create them then that's not it.
[07:08] <rivl44> hi im reformatting my windows 7 so that i can dual boot with xubuntu, how much space should i dedicate to linux if I have a 120 gig ssd?
[07:08] <trijntje> histo: maybe I'm confused, isn't fsck just to see if the filesystem is damaged?
[07:08] <trijntje> histo: ah, no, I didn't manually create sparse files. I do have a ~100 GB torrent dir, but the size is equal to about 1kb on both harddisks
[07:08] <histo> rivl44: why not just split the drive in half.  If not you can go as minimal within reason as you want. I'd say atleast 10GB to be safe
[07:09] <rivl44> histo:  thanks someone said 10 gig as well, so 10 gig it is.
[07:09] <rivl44> i was worried that iwndows 7 will be eating the bigger chunk of it
[07:10] <damian-> is it common to have 'no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory' when doing a sudo?!
[07:10] <geirha> damian-: definitely not
[07:10] <damian-> i have it on both of my systems (one upgraded, another fresh install)
[07:11] <histo> damian-: no
[07:11] <histo> damian-: what command are you running with sudo?
[07:11] <damian-> both on different physical machines, on different OS's as virtualmachines, too. strange that they have exactly the same error come up :\
[07:11] <damian-> sudo -s
[07:11] <histo> damian-: sudo -i
[07:12] <awaad> I have an empty database and when I try to drop it, it gives the following error "Lost connection to MySQL server during query"
[07:12] <histo> damian-: does that work?
[07:12] <damian-> yeah, works perfectly. what's the different between -s(hell) and -l(ogin) ?
[07:12] <awaad> In the error log it says: "InnoDB: Assertion failure in thread<PHONE_NUMBER>24064 in file row0mysql.cc line 4516"
[07:12] <damian-> i rather
[07:13] <awaad> Any one can help?
[07:13] <damian-> awaad, shouldn't that be a #mysql question? :P
[07:13] <s4kk4t> can any one help me ?
[07:14] <s4kk4t> my question has scrolled off .. should i repost it ?
[07:14] <user123321> histo, Am I supposed to add dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> using resolvconf
[07:15] <s4kk4t> user123321: echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> " >> /etc/resolv.conf ?
[07:15] <histo> user123321: no in your interfaces file
[07:15] <histo> s4kk4t: that doesn't work
[07:15] <s4kk4t> histo: why does it not work ?
[07:16] <histo> damian-: -i reads the .profile and .login files etc... for root
[07:16] <user123321> histo, ok, I added "dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>" above "auto eth0", is that ok?
[07:16] <histo> damian-: that's odd though -s should work fine.
[07:16] <Beldar> s4kk4t, Off the screen is not lost here, generally we ask for 10 min time to repost, you were having a conversation with someone.
[07:16] <histo> damian-: something in your users environment could be messing with it.
[07:16] <user123321> histo, I'm connected to the internet using my ADSL router.
[07:17] <histo> user123321: no add dns-nameservers ....   under your netmask etc...
[07:17] <s4kk4t> Beldar: its been close to 20 minutes
[07:17] <damian-> yeah, that's what i figured histo. i was having issues with one of my servers yesterday and this started coming up .. so i installed a brand new server on a new vm and it has the same issue. this is a *BRAND* new install
[07:17] <damian-> literally after installation, i logged on as a standard user and did sudo -s and it came up with that
[07:17] <Beldar> s4kk4t, Go for it I was just giving info. ;)
[07:17] <histo> damian-: did you copy over any files to the users home on the 'new server' ?
[07:18] <user123321> histo, Ok, I added "dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>" under netmask.
[07:18] <damian-> i'm assuming more something to do with the OS than the configuration (as it's all default configuration from my end)
[07:18] <s4kk4t> I have the script pasted at https://dpaste.de/X4nn/
[07:18] <s4kk4t> The variable FFMPEG_PROC_RUNNING_CNT is always being set to 2 and the script is failing.
[07:18] <s4kk4t> When i run the relevant part of the snippet in a shell as shown at https://dpaste.de/w3aY/
[07:18] <user123321> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:18] <s4kk4t> it is returning a valid value. Can anyone tell me what i am doing wrong ?
[07:18] <histo> damian-: well it works here and for countless others perfectly fine so I doubt it's the OS
[07:18] <Beldar> s4kk4t, Key though is some description to get interest.
[07:18] <histo> s4kk4t: join the bash channel and ask
[07:18] <damian-> nope, i haven't done anything to the new server yet, like i said.. literally only logged on and did sudo haha
[07:19] <s4kk4t> histo: #bash ?
[07:19] <histo> s4kk4t: yes
[07:19] <s4kk4t> histo: thanks
[07:20] <user123321> histo,  ping <IP_ADDRESS>: network unreachable
[07:20] <histo> s4kk4t: you may want to try $()  vs. `
[07:21] <s4kk4t> user123321: traceroute <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[07:21] <user123321> histo,  either with or without dns name server, it says network unreachable o.O
[07:21] <s4kk4t> histo: tried it same result
[07:21] <histo> user123321: please pastebin your interfaces file
[07:21] <user123321> s4kk4t, oops, traceroute isn't installed, and not internet to install.
[07:21] <user123321> histo, ok
[07:22] <user123321> I could revert the interfaces and get internet back, if wanted. but let me upload interface file now.
[07:22] <histo> user123321: you could just copy and paste from the vm
[07:23] <histo> well depending on the virtualization solution you are using
[07:24] <user123321> histo, as a sidenote, ping <IP_ADDRESS> just gave one response with about 70 ms, only once o.O
[07:24] <user123321> just now
[07:25] <user123321> I added gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:25] <histo> that's odd
[07:25] <histo> user123321: does dpkg -l | grep resolvconf  return anything?
[07:27] <user123321> histo, ii  resolvconf                               1.69ubuntu1.1                        all          name server information handler
[07:27] <user123321> histo, http://pastebin.com/EghdcWfA <---interfaces
[07:28] <MoundBob> Im really stumped. Im trying to learn how to make my own boot disk, not download one. Not use a physical floppy. I need to put some assembly in a boot sector on a floppy disk image. Anyone have any ideas how?
[07:29]  * Abhijit checks date.
[07:29] <Abhijit> MoundBob, "floppy"??
[07:30] <Abhijit> dont you mean cd /dvd/bluray/usbdrive and the latest nasas motion in space invention?
[07:31] <DanaG> bah, I no longer use boot sectors, wherever possible.  EFI for the win!  No more start-of-disk magic; instead, you just run proper compiled executables.
[07:31] <histo> user123321: comment out the carp stuff and under gateway 192... put dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>    then restart networking and rejoice
[07:32] <Abhijit> histo, doesnt restarting networknig overwrites resolve.conf and hence errasing google dns?
[07:32] <histo> MoundBob: why are you working with floppies?
[07:32] <histo> Abhijit: not if he puts them in interfaces file as instructed.
[07:32] <MoundBob> Abhijit: This is what im trying to do. Essentially write some assembly to a floppy disk image's boot sector. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7921625/
[07:33] <Abhijit> histo, okey
[07:33] <Abhijit> MoundBob, why floppy?
[07:34]  * Abhijit recently got a id card in form of real floppy disk at on tech conf!
[07:34] <histo> MoundBob: and what's the problem with those commands?
[07:34] <user123321> histo, oh, that worked. Now I can connect to internet.
[07:34] <histo> user123321: now add your carp stuff and break it.
[07:35] <user123321> histo, by keeping the dns name server ip?
[07:35] <histo> user123321: yes
[07:35] <MoundBob> Abhijit: because I read that it was easier to make a boot disk from.
[07:36] <histo> user123321: you need those to resolve URLs to IPs
[07:36] <marcmae> can you give command for ubuntu update
[07:36] <Abhijit> :-o
[07:36] <MoundBob> Abhijit: I dont think this was the right channel to ask in. Its not a boot disk for ubuntu
[07:36] <Abhijit> marcmae, sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:36] <Abhijit> MoundBob, ##linux-india
[07:36] <Abhijit> MoundBob, ##linux
[07:36] <user123321> histo, back to the same problem
[07:36] <user123321> cannot connect to internet
[07:37] <user123321> histo, I tried pinging <IP_ADDRESS>, one response so far.
[07:37] <user123321> histo, second one came.
[07:37] <user123321> slow? o.O
[07:38] <user123321> just 3 responses like in 15 seconds
[07:38] <user123321> 5 responses
[07:39] <histo> user123321: Your carp settings are the issue now. I have no idea how to set that stuff up.  If you comment them out so you have working internet and perhaps ask in #ubuntu-server theymay have more info for you on carp
[07:39] <user123321> Cool, thanks. :)
[07:39] <trijntje> Hi all, I'm trying to make a backup of all the files on a 1TB external harddrive. I've used 'rsync -avr --delete source/ dest', but after completion the dest is 15 GB bigger then the source. What could be going on?
[07:40] <histo> trijntje: fsck the fiel systems
[07:40] <histo> trijntje: also -r is not needed with -a
[07:42] <user123321> histo, So, if I configure a static IP, I must add a nameserver?
[07:42] <histo> user123321: yes
[07:43] <histo> user123321: if you want to resolv urls
[07:43] <user123321> histo, because, my host doesn't have static ip configured, and it works without adding dns
[07:43] <user123321> ah I see
[07:44] <user123321> histo, I can see "primary DNS" and "secondary DNS" IP's in my ADSL router. Are those from my ISP?
[07:45] <trijntje> histo: both filesystems are clean
[07:46] <histo> trijntje: did you run fsck?
[07:46] <trijntje> histo: yes
[07:46] <histo> trijntje: now compare size
[07:47] <trijntje> histo: still 15GB difference in usage
[07:47] <histo> trijntje: is sector size different on the drives?
[07:48] <histo> trijntje: parted -l   on both drives
[07:48] <infolinux> Hi all, I have a site running with ssl. If I do a check on ssllabs, I get a B rate. Message: The server supports only older protocols, but not the current best TLS 1.2. Grade capped to B.
[07:48] <infolinux> how can i fix that? Running 12.04 with apache 2.2 and OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012 (Library: OpenSSL 1.0.0e 6 Sep 2011)
[07:49] <histo> infolinux: apt-get upgrade
[07:49] <infolinux> apache version: Installed: 2.2.22-1ubuntu1.4
[07:49] <trijntje> histo: both external disks have 512B sector size
[07:49] <infolinux> histo: What does that fix then?
[07:50] <histo> infolinux: You need to upgrade openssl
[07:50] <bookies> is there a way to upgrade from 12.10 to 14.04(LTS)?
[07:50] <histo> trijntje: double check that both are ext4
[07:51] <marcmae> hey guys
[07:51] <histo> trijntje: do you have virtual machines in this backup?
[07:53] <trijntje> histo: both are ext4, parted -l also shows this. I don't have virtual machines in the backup as far as I remember
[07:53] <histo> trijntje: did you ever play with virtualbox or anything on the source that would have created vmdk or sparse files for the virtual machine drives
[07:54] <trijntje> if I have they are in some tar.gz of my whole home dir, what effect would that have?
[07:54] <trijntje> histo: no, I keep my virtualbox images on the internal harddrive
[07:55] <histo> trijntje: It shouldn't be an issue if they are tar.gz'd but if they were just there in theopen then you would see the behavior you are reporting.
[07:55] <histo> trijntje: you could try rsync -avS  and see if that has different behavior
[07:56] <histo> trijntje: the other thing that could cause it is a bad directory that wasn't deleted properly and the inode is hanging on the source. So the destination would have that different size data.
[07:57] <histo> trijntje: but your fsck would have fixed that, if you fsck'd source and dest and rsync'd again.
[07:57] <alfonsojon> bookies: Officially, it's best to upgrade to 13.04, then 13.10, then 14.04. I suggest a clean install, or you can risk it and do a manual upgrade.
[07:57] <bookies> alfonsojon, thanks
[07:57] <histo> !eol | bookies
[07:58] <bookies> histo, cheers
[07:58] <alfonsojon> I'll keep the !eol command in mind.
[08:02] <trijntje> histo: I ran rsync -avS, but the difference remains
[08:04] <histo> trijntje: did you still ahve the --delete in there?
[08:05] <histo> trijntje: try cmp <(ls -R /dir1) <(ls -R /dir2)    it will take awhile if there are tons of files
[08:08] <trijntje> histo: yeah, I still had the --delete, sorry
[08:10] <trijntje> histo: I get a syntax error, and I'm not sure what the correct syntax should be
[08:13] <histo> trijntje: just like a typed but substitute /dir1  for your source and /dir2  for your destination
[08:13] <histo> trijntje: that will list both directories recursively and compare all the file names looking for differences
[08:14] <trijntje> histo: yeah, it looks like I made typo somewhere, sorry. The output is here http://pastebin.com/1L2FN91H
[08:14] <trijntje> but I'm confused, why does it say /dev/fd is different?
[08:15] <histo> trijntje: byte 1 should be different because of the directory names line
[08:15] <histo> trijntje: is it showing others different?
[08:16] <trijntje> histo: no, thats all output.  If the data is really critical you could create an md5sum of every file and compare that.
[08:17] <trijntje> histo: are you sure. Running just ls -R $BACUP > /dev/null takes a lot longer than the whole cmp command
[08:17] <histo> trijntje: what output did you get from the cmp command?
[08:17] <histo> trijntje: and what did you type
[08:18] <trijntje> histo: I've put the output on pastebin, thats all the output I get. I'm thinking maybe there is a permissions problem, it shouldn't run so fast
[08:19] <histo> trijntje: what's the link to the pastebin?
[08:19] <trijntje> histo: http://pastebin.com/1L2FN91H
[08:20] <histo> trijntje: pastebin the output of rsync -avn --delete /source /backup
[08:23] <trijntje> histo: http://pastebin.com/Dfn65wZe
[08:24] <histo> trijntje: all those files match I have no idea why the size is reporting different
[08:25] <trijntje> histo: are you sure the cmp command you gave is correct.  I am moving to debian..
[08:27] <histo> !language | OERIAS
[08:27] <svetlana> OERIAS: OK, have fun; I hope you like it and contribute something upstream :)
[08:27] <histo> OERIAS: how exactly did 'ubuntu' ruin everything?
[08:27] <svetlana> :P
[08:27] <OERIAS> Privacy issues
[08:28] <histo> OERIAS: Can you elaborate a little bit?
[08:28] <OERIAS> Amazon
[08:28] <histo> OERIAS: disable it
[08:28] <OERIAS> I would, but 600 production machines were shipped with it enabled
[08:28] <histo> !shopping | OERIAS
[08:30] <OERIAS> histo, like i said before i am getting calls from a tax firm regarding this,
[08:30] <OERIAS> 600 machines
[08:30] <OERIAS> headache
[08:30] <histo> OERIAS: Who loaded the machines?
[08:31] <OERIAS> A few novices
[08:31] <svetlana> Incompetent argument number 459
[08:31] <svetlana> Defaults of a distro are "worrying", you see; that Firefox has a lot of whatever-ware along the same lines somehow is not worrying people :P
[08:31] <Ben64> OERIAS: do you have an actual support question? this is not the correct channel for complaints
[08:31] <OERIAS> They were help me.
[08:31] <histo> OERIAS: this is not new to ubuntu
[08:32] <OERIAS> histo, they were running the previous distro..
[08:33] <trijntje> OERIAS: I don't understand why this is your or our problem. Let the tax firm take it up with the people who installed it
[08:33] <trijntje> or pay you or someone else to fix the problem
[08:34] <histo> OERIAS: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Lenses disabled-scopes "['more_suggestions-amazon.scope', 'more_suggestions-u1ms.scope', 'more_suggestions-populartracks.scope', 'music-musicstore.scope', 'more_suggestions-ebay.scope', 'more_suggestions-ubuntushop.scope', 'more_suggestions-skimlinks.scope']   will remove it if you have a way to remote issue commands
[08:35] <master_> Hi, what is the best bug tracking system now? still bugzilla?
[08:36] <Guest63459> apt-get install language-support-zh
[08:36] <Guest63459> sorry
[08:36] <Mr-Newbie> hi guys i have installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a vmware and now i am tring to Install required packages
[08:36] <blackyboy> ahinsingh1140:
[08:36] <Mr-Newbie> ut i cant seem to get libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 installed
[08:37] <anuvrat> ls
[08:37] <Mr-Newbie> i get this error http://pastebin.com/AMe5Fbuz
[08:38] <Grille> hey, i want to upgrade my system but get some errors on aptitude safe-upgrade. os-release: 12.04.4  http://pastebin.com/5hQDejVn
[08:39] <histo> !info libglapi-mesa:i386 precise
[08:39] <histo> !info libglapi-mesa precise
[08:40] <histo> Mr-Newbie: what's output of uname -a
[08:41] <Mr-Newbie> histo: Linux ubuntu 3.11.0-15-generic #25~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 30 17:39:31 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:41] <histo> Mr-Newbie: is there a reason you are trying to instal the i386 variants?
[08:42] <Mr-Newbie> i am following this http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html so i can compile AOSP
[08:42] <Mr-Newbie> histo: i am following this http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html so i can compile AOSP
[08:43] <izabera> hey guys, can you help me? i'm trying to install ubuntu on my notebook
[08:43] <Mr-Newbie> histo: i found this http://bit.ly/1uNRx4Z
[08:44] <histo> Mr-Newbie: did you try that?
[08:44] <Mr-Newbie> histo: yes it worked :)
[08:45] <histo> Mr-Newbie: k
[08:45] <secstack> Do you have any suggestion for books about the culture and history of Linux/Unix/Open-Source?
[08:45] <histo> !ot | secstack
[08:47] <izabera> i made a usb pendrive and booted ubuntu from that, edited my partitions, installed ubuntu in a ext4-journaling partition with mbr in sda
[08:47] <izabera> so i was expecting to see grub when i restarted
[08:47] <histo> Grille: do you have ppa's enabled?
[08:47] <izabera> instead, windows started
[08:48] <histo> izabera: did you install grub?
[08:48] <izabera> idk... did i have to install it separately?
[08:48] <histo> izabera: you shouldn't depends on your method of install though.
[08:48] <izabera> what?
[08:49] <histo> izabera: if you used the graphical installer it will take care of that. If you used a text based installer it's the last step, it asks you where you want to install grub.
[08:49] <Grille> histo: no, not that i know
[08:49] <izabera> i used the graphical installer
[08:49] <izabera> nothing asked me to install grub or not
[08:50] <evghenii> Hi 2 all, question: where should I report, if I found a problem in Ubuntu Software Center? (Some app isn't updated in Store)
[08:50] <izabera> can i install it now?
[08:50] <histo> !grub2 | izabera
[08:50] <histo> evghenii: apps aren't updated after a release like that.
[08:52] <izabera> histo: i shouldn't have to fix anything since i didn't break it and just followed the instructions -.-
[08:52] <Grille> histo: last time i had this problem on an other system, i had a wrong parameter in sysctl/iscsi config…. but iscsi i have not installed on this system ..  so sysctl look like default … http://pastebin.com/Jf8AjYhC
[08:52] <evghenii> histo: I've found an IDE (Intellij IDEa). and it's of 13.0 version
[08:52] <evghenii> histo: and the actual version is 13.1.4
[08:55] <histo> evghenii: You mean it installs 13.1.4 but displays 13.0?
[08:58] <x9> what's a fast DNS server that's not Google's?
[08:58] <evghenii> histo: no, the official new version is 13.1, but Software Center offers only the 13.0
[08:59] <histo> evghenii: official to whom?  their website?
[08:59] <evghenii> histo: yew
[08:59] <Ben64> !latest | evghenii
[09:00] <gewoonm> quick non-Ubuntu question: is bash.org down for everybody?
[09:00] <svetlana> gewoonm, isitup.org says?
[09:00] <Ben64> gewoonm: if its non ubuntu, it doesn't belong in this channel
[09:01]  * svetlana nom
[09:02] <histo> gewoonm: http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/bash.org.html
[09:02] <gewoonm> Ben64: sorry, I won't do it again
[09:02] <gewoonm> histo, svetlana: thanks, apparently down for everybody. Another part of my internet history gone for ever (long live archive.org ;) )
[09:03] <evghenii> Thank you guys, for your help! BUY!
[09:03] <svetlana> They may re-appear, depending on the kind of event causing the downtime ...
[09:03] <svetlana> evghenii, See you later
[09:04] <gewoonm> svetlana: let's hope so, but bash.org has a very unstable history :)
[09:04] <svetlana> OK.
[09:12] <FredddyTom> i have a gimp window which is overflowing beyond the bottom of the screen
[09:13] <FredddyTom> how can i resize it so it fits
[09:13] <FredddyTom> dragging from top left and top right corners won't work
[09:14] <bcvery> FredddyTom, select the window, hit Alt F8 which will put you into resize mode
[09:15] <FredddyTom> hmm
[09:15] <FredddyTom> the vertical height seems to be fixed of the main editing window
[09:16] <FredddyTom> got it
[09:16] <FredddyTom> the stupid toolbar was stretching it out
[09:16] <trijntje> histo: I also asked in #rsync and it turns out that rsync doesnt copy hardlinks by default. Running rsync with -H solved the size difference between the two harddisks
[09:21] <nikolam_> does Canonical sell desktop Ubuntu support anymore?
[09:22] <histo> trijntje: -a doesn't do -HAX
[09:22] <nikolam_> and there is no ubuntu.com/services anymore...
[09:24] <nikolam_> it seems to be called "ubuntu advantage" and sold only in packs of 5... and is very costly
[09:24] <histo>  │05:04    gewoonm | svetlana: let's hope so, but bash.org has a very unstable history :)
[09:24] <histo>  │05:04    gewoonm | svetlana: let's hope so, but bash.org has a very unstable history :)
[09:24] <histo>  │05:04    gewoonm | svetlana: let's hope so, but bash.org has a very unstable history :)
[09:24] <histo>  │05:04    gewoonm | svetlana: let's hope so, but bash.org has a very unstable history :)
[09:24] <histo>  │05:04    gewoonm | svetlana: let's hope so, but bash.org has a very unstable history :)
[09:24] <histo>  │05:04    gewoonm | svetlana: let's hope so, but bash.org has a very unstable history :)
[09:24] <unopaste> histo you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:24] <nikolam_> no longer price for one desktop support., ha?
[09:27] <nikolam_> "for less then 5 desktops support is already free for you.." HA.
[09:27] <nikolam_> why would I buy support for 5 of them, then?
[09:28] <histo> Sorry was leaning on touchpad
[09:28] <nikolam_> or 55
[09:45] <abailarri> hello. When I try to install truecrypt on my ubuntu 14 I see this on the terminal: This pachages will be removed:
[09:45] <abailarri>   google-chrome-stable:i386 libappindicator1:i386 libindicator7:i386
[09:45] <abailarri> why google chrome will be removed?
[09:55] <izabera> hey
[09:55] <izabera> histo
[09:55] <izabera> i installed boot-repair
[09:56] <izabera> i got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7922452/ and when i restarted my system it booted windows without loading grub
[09:59] <izabera> any help?
[10:06] <englishsexy_boi> hey
[10:06] <santhosh> hai
[10:06] <pdo_fn14> izabera: You need to disable secure boot.
[10:07] <izabera> pdo_fn14: i have no idea how to do it
[10:07] <izabera> pdo_fn14: when i boot i don't even see "press f2 to config boot" or something, it just start windows
[10:08] <pdo_fn14> izabera: Can you tell me what your mainboard?.
[10:09] <pdo_fn14> izabera: found this for you http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn481258.aspx
[10:09] <izabera> pdo_fn14: http://www.acer.com.au/ac/en/AU/content/model/NX.M81SA.002
[10:10] <izabera> "from Windows, hold the Shift key while selecting Restart" wtf
[10:10] <izabera> lemme try
[10:27] <nick___> hi, anyone know why my usb ethernet dongle is only detected on                  plugging in, and not on boot
[10:45] <y4k> )/save
[11:07] <bosnjak> hi al
[11:08] <ObrienDave> bosnjak, greetings and welcome
[11:09] <bosnjak> i am on 13.04 and it is not supported anymore. I would like to upgrade to 14.04LTS but I'm afraid to mess up my PC since I need it for work. What are the chances I mess it up by do-dist-upgrade? My /home is on a separate partition... Is that enough to be secure?
[11:09] <bosnjak> also, if i would do a clean install, would i be able to just re-use my /home partition again and mount it, and everything would be preserved?
[11:09] <Grille> histo: oookay … i think there is a broken dependency … i have solved my error messages by manually downloading and installing initramfs-tools-bin_0.99ubuntu13.5_amd64.deb because apt-get and aptitude were not able to do so. here again my now solved problem http://pastebin.com/5hQDejVn
[11:11] <Grille> but in february ’14 the same issue was known vice versa … there some people need to manually install initramfs-tools_0.99ubuntu13.4_all.deb but i have to install the -bin
[11:12] <izabera> can you please help me? someone linked me this http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn481258.aspx , i restarted my system, entered the bios setup, found that "secure boot" option and it was enabled but i couldn't disable it. instead i disabled efi  and that made the secure boot option disappear, but now i can't boot anything
[11:13] <izabera> now my pc is in legacy mode, i tried to run boot-repair but it complains and won't finish the job
[11:13] <Zelvar> Hi, can some1 help with ubuntu server install recuring mirror problem pls
[11:16] <bosnjak> ok, i don't undestand this. why is 12.04 not supported and i need to upgrade, if it says that LTS has 5 years support, according to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[11:17] <ObrienDave> bosnjak, you said you're on 13.04. that version is EOL
[11:18] <ubuntu-studio> hello
[11:18] <ubuntu-studio> hello
[11:18] <bosnjak> ObrienDave: i don't quite get it. First, I installed 12.04 and that was it. And then with time, some stuff got updated and I got to 13.04. I didn't do dist-upgrade. Is this possible, or did I had to do it at some time manually?
[11:19] <bosnjak> ObrienDave: I am on 13.04 atm, but not sure how that happened ://
[11:19] <bosnjak> ObrienDave: so you are saying that if I were on 12.04, i would have no problems with repose?
[11:19] <bosnjak> repos*
[11:20] <ubuntu-studio> u should upgrade to 12.10
[11:20] <ObrienDave> can't guarantee it bosnjak. 12.04 is LTS and still supported
[11:21] <Zelvar> Pls help to install server, always got stuch on checking mirror, shows only purple screen, dhcp config succeeded
[11:21] <ubuntu-studio> thatis should u do
[11:21] <DJones> ubuntu-studio: That would be very bad advice since 12.10 is end of life
[11:21] <ubuntu-studio> must be upgraded in sequence
[11:22] <ubuntu-studio> i recomend to reinstal
[11:22] <bosnjak> ObrienDave: if I would want to go to 14.04 now, i would first have to upgrade to 13.10 and then 14.04, right?
[11:22] <bosnjak> ubuntu-studio: i see
[11:22] <ubuntu-studio> yes
[11:23] <bosnjak> if I do a clean install of 14.04, and my /home partition is separate, will I have any issues or can I just continue use the /home as is?
[11:23] <ObrienDave> bosnjak, i can't give you an honest answer. someone with more experience should advise you on the proper method
[11:23] <bosnjak> in theory I always say this works like that, but I never tried it
[11:23] <bosnjak> ObrienDave: ok, thanks for the effort anyway :)
[11:24] <ubuntu-studio> u must back up all data before reinstalling
[11:24] <ubuntu-studio> don't be reckless
[11:26] <bosnjak> ubuntu-studio: i appreciate the advice
[11:26] <bosnjak> ubuntu-studio: but in theory, this should work as described, right?
[11:28] <ubuntu-studio> hi did u know how to make fake webcam in ubuntu?
[11:28] <Zelvar> Libc6udev package doesnt exist
[11:29] <ubuntu-studio> i was tried but not work
[11:30] <microm> in 12.04 cups fails to upgrade, and I think it's because file /etc/init.d/cups gives /etc/init.d/cups: broken symbolic link to `/lib/init/upstart-job'
[11:31] <ubuntu-studio> i didn't try in old version yet
[11:31] <izabera> i'm restating my problem since it's pretty bad and i followed what some of you said and it destroyed my computer
[11:31] <izabera> can you please help me? someone linked me this http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn481258.aspx , i restarted my system, entered the bios setup, found that "secure boot" option and it was enabled but i couldn't disable it. instead i disabled efi  and that made the secure boot option disappear, but now i can't boot anything
[11:31] <izabera> now my pc is in legacy mode, i tried to run boot-repair but it complains and won't finish the job
[11:32] <ubuntu-studio> u have screenshoot?
[11:32] <izabera> screenshot of what?
[11:34] <ubuntu-studio> what pc/laptop?
[11:34] <karab44> hello
[11:34] <svetlana> hi
[11:34] <karab44> after latest system update I can't... log to facebook
[11:35] <karab44> this is weird because all other sites are working
[11:35] <izabera> ubuntu-studio: acer e1-522
[11:35] <svetlana> what does it say
[11:35] <karab44> fb works on all other android devices as well
[11:35] <ubuntu-studio> hi izebra u should try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader
[11:35] <svetlana> karab44, what does it say ?
[11:35] <svetlana> when you try to log in ?
[11:35] <svetlana> does it work with another web browser ?
[11:36] <karab44> nothing, I enter my password and screen is blank
[11:36] <svetlana> yeppers, please try with another web browser on your Ubuntu computer
[11:36] <karab44> it is like https://facebook.com and nothing happenes
[11:36] <svetlana> yea
[11:36] <izabera> ubuntu-studio: i said i can't log into windows and boot-repair fails
[11:37] <karab44> I tried with Ubuntu Web Browser and nothing
[11:38] <svetlana> Try chromium-browser
[11:38] <karab44> I cleaned FF cache and history and it didn't help
[11:38] <svetlana> Heard that. If anything on fx itself, you need to clear cookies..... but only after you see it work under other browser to rule out Install/Hardware issues
[11:46] <karab44> it doesn't work on chromium
[11:46] <karab44> it hangs with "Redirecting..." and blank screen
[11:47] <ObrienDave> some sites don't like chromium, try it with firefox
[11:48] <karab44> ????
[11:48] <karab44> Do you read?
[11:48] <ubuntu-studio> any mypaint user?
[11:48] <karab44> I can't access facebook, I use FF
[11:48] <karab44> any other sites work
[11:48] <svetlana> karab44, you must've checked with chromium or another fresh OS user, otherwise I'm stuck helping
[11:49] <svetlana> AH, it doesn't work on chromium
[11:49] <Grille> hmmm, my system is 12.04.4 LTS and i want to upgrade to 14.04 LTS, but do-release-upgrade say „No new release found“ although in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades is Prompt=lts
[11:49] <svetlana> mmmmmm
[11:49] <karab44> 13:46:22] <karab44> it doesn't work on chromium
[11:49] <karab44> it was just fine yesterday and today's morning
[11:49] <karab44> and updates came up, with ubuntu base and security
[11:49] <svetlana> That side is being special..... I would try under a guest session -- click switch user and try using that to test
[11:50] <svetlana> Their site*
[11:50] <svetlana> I see your concern
[11:50] <ubuntu-studio> just using ubuntu 14.04 has no problem
[11:51] <Grille> ubuntu-studio: but it is not found by do-release-upgrade command ..
[11:51] <karab44> no, guest session doesn't help here
[11:52] <karab44> I can try to create new fb account and see what happen
[11:55] <karab44> it doesn't work
[12:00] <karab44> is it something wrong with DNS?
[12:07] <alinmear> hey guys! any ideas what's going on with my kdenlive; when i wanna add some effects to a clip (e.g. pan and zoom) the whole clip lags like hell and isn't playable in the compositor window; i have a i7 q4900m with nvidia quadro2100k and priop nvidia drivers installed! ... thx in advance
[12:07] <ObrienDave> oh great, i can't login normally. using guest account. grrrrrr
[12:09] <karab44> this is kinda weird... I reseted my router and now it works
[12:11] <gdfd> I find myself unable to install Ubuntu on a lenovo laptop
[12:11] <gdfd> The install itself is no problem, problem is that UEFI boots Windows instead of grub after install
[12:12] <bipul> Hello, I would like to know the logs generated by ubuntu. Is it in /var/log ?
[12:12] <bipul> If it is there then i can see the compressed file inside that directory.
[12:20] <Dartellum> quick (hopefully) question. Should I do a fresh install or upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04? I have three desktops and one server running 12.04. I have read reviews for either option and seems mixed opinions on it.
[12:21] <karab44> oh schnapps! Problem appeared again
[12:22] <IdleOne> Dartellum: I would do fresh installs. Takes about the same amount of time.
[12:22] <matty_r> good evening
[12:23] <matty_r> is it possible to flip the top bar so the time is on the left?
[12:24] <Dartellum> Okay. Guess I would need to do a package backup and then restore. I did that when I switched my one son's computer. However, for the server, I am running DNS and DHCP and had some challenges getting that to work. These easier under 14.04?
[12:27] <hakim> hello all
[12:29] <hakim> im having issues mounting a drive now ..i added another sata drive, they both worked fine for a few minutes. then i set both drives to automount on start up rebooted to test and now i cant get one drive to mount anywhere.
[12:30] <compdoc> automount how?
[12:30] <compdoc> fstab?
[12:30] <hakim> via disk
[12:30] <hakim> i went into disks and settings
[12:31] <hakim> i get an error when attempting to mount one of the drives
[12:36] <HiMaX> hello, is there a way when viewing a project in netbeans to only show the opened files and folders of that project, instead of a mix of files from other open projects ?
[12:37] <ses1984> i'm having a performance problem between two systems...i'm trying to figure out why my i7 with 16GB ram performs much worse than my i3 with 4GB RAM. firefox and chrome are both super slow on the i7/16GB RAM
[12:37] <HiMaX> I just wana click on a project and only have its files show in the files tab menu. Then when clicking another project have only its files showing in the files tab window.
[12:37] <HiMaX> Its an IDE for goodness sakes! Surely it cannot be that hard to do such a feature in java for the netbeans devs.
[12:39] <hakim> im having issues mounting a drive now ..i added another sata drive, they both worked fine for a few minutes. then i set both drives to automount on start up rebooted to test and now i cant get one drive to mount anywhere.
[12:39] <DevDaemon> Hi, I need help in displaylink adapter
[12:39] <DevDaemon> I am using ubuntu 14.04
[12:39] <ChaseTrains> anyone else getting a weird 5MB update?
[12:40] <ChaseTrains> with malformated description of weird characters?
[12:40] <Grille> ChaseTrains: where you get it?
[12:40] <kostkon> ChaseTrains, which package
[12:40] <ChaseTrains> the software update thing showed up. Couldn't see anything about it
[12:41] <ChaseTrains> no info, nothing.. just a bunch of ... encoding messup
[12:41] <ChaseTrains> something something.
[12:41] <Pici> Very descriptive.
[12:41] <ChaseTrains> how do you get the update manger to show up? I can't find it
[12:41] <kostkon> !paste | hakim, for starters, paste the errors you are getting
[12:43] <ChaseTrains> oh it's fixed now.. probably some gtk problems. The Software Updater looks normal now
[12:46] <dohzer> Does anyone here have good knowledge on the /etc/udev/rules.d configurations?
[12:49] <ovrflw0x> sometimes when i wakeup laptop from sleep (suspend), laptop "hangs"! giving this message : 'ERROR @wl_wowl_ind_wake_reason : Unable to get wake reason, err = -95' Now, how to fix this? which channel i should join to resolve this issue?
[12:50] <beanee> Hello guys girls, if you have something to report to re update team where do you do it?
[12:52] <linuxgirl> beanee: What do you mean?
[12:52] <hakim> kostkon: http://pastebin.com/kLY29gRJ
[12:52] <linuxgirl> ovrflw0x: Does the system work normally?
[12:53] <linuxgirl> ovrflw0x: Its seems like a wirless adapter issue
[12:53] <linuxgirl> ovrflw0x: What Wireless adapter do you use?
[12:54] <beanee> linuxgirl see.. my wifi dosnt connect automaticly because of vpn
[12:56] <hakim> here is the pastbin error i get when i now try to mount a drive that worked fine before adding another sata drive http://paste.ubuntu.com/7923767/
[12:56] <linuxgirl> beanee: What wireless adapter do you have?
[13:00] <eatyourgreenery> I'm trying to record stuff going across my soundcard.
[13:00] <linuxabc> why do many startup commands are setted up with an delay (sleep 5s) ?
[13:01] <kstenger> hello, today one of the pc's at the office ran an update and suddenly the menu that appears at the top right corner (the one with the configuration options and the shutdown button) plus the volume icon and some others altogether, disappeared from the screen. using gnome metacity in this case, but i don't know if this has something to do with it. Any clues of what could happen?
[13:02] <kstenger> linuxabc: because sometimes the necesary services are still not up for the command to run sucessfully too early at the bootup process
[13:03] <linuxabc> ah okay so this could be the problem why my guake is not transparent if i use it at startup, but is transparent if i start it manually?
[13:04] <kstenger> I don't know what guake is, but it sounds like this could be a cause, yes
[13:05] <sasds> Anyone else had problems getting a computer to boot grub after installing ubuntu? It just keeps going to Windows/BitLocker prompt
[13:05] <kostkon> kstenger, you can put them back by alt+right clicking on the panel and selecitng add to panel
[13:05] <sasds> ubuntu files are present in the EFI part
[13:05] <sasds> tried both with and without secure boot enabled
[13:05] <kstenger> kostkon: thank's for the hint, let's try it
[13:09] <timm0e> Hey Guys, can somebody help me to add LID0 to my /proc/acpi/wakeup file?
[13:09] <bng> hi, I am experiencing problems with my mouse, it behaves like it hits invisible borders or maybe like it would snap to some imaginary edges in the middle of the screen
[13:09] <bng> I ma not 100% sure but it is probably happening only with my BT adapter attached, is that possible, what do you think?
[13:13] <kstenger> kostkon: that solved the menu, even when it's not the same pretty menu that used to appear, but I could not find how to add the volume. I thought it was part of the notification area, but the notification area is showing and the volume is not. where should the volume icon be found?
[13:15] <kostkon> kstenger, i believe there are two notification areas in gnome fallback, one for the gtk tray and one for indicators. i might be wrong though
[13:16] <rima> i have problems downloading and installing software. can anyone help?
[13:16] <kstenger> kostkon: oh, what if some is not showing in the options to add to the bar whan you Alt+Right Click on it?
[13:16] <kstenger> when*
[13:17] <regex101-8970> http://bit.ly/T0D1oC
[13:18] <hyde> rima: at irc, you should usually just ask about your problem. IOW, do not ask to ask, just ask.
[13:18] <rima> ok
[13:18] <rima> my software center is missing
[13:18] <rima> and when i try to download it from terminal, it says i have help broken packages
[13:18] <rima> and i cant install or download anything
[13:19] <codeROOTs> hi there
[13:19] <kostkon> kstenger, some info here. you could try reinstalling the packages mentioned in this post: http://askubuntu.com/a/72764/1651
[13:19] <hyde> rima: try running apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[13:20] <whiskers75> if I move around partitions, how do I get GRUB to realize the new position of /boot?
[13:20] <whiskers75> update-grub?
[13:20] <rima> hyde still does not work
[13:20] <mzaza> I have dual graphics laptop, I had nVidia card working fine and I could switch between them untill suddenly my Ubuntu doesn't see my nVidia card anymore in restricted drivers, any ideas?
[13:21] <pbx> in the launcher, software updater is wiggling.  when i click it, i see no window. where might it be hiding? other apps acting normally.
[13:21] <hyde> rima: then read the error message, and google with that :)
[13:21] <rima> hyde this is what i get when i try to install http://pastebin.com/Zqr7Dpq2
[13:21] <rima> hyde i have, i cant find a solution
[13:21] <rima> i was hoping you guys could help
[13:22] <rima> i have done everything any site i could find has told me
[13:22] <codeROOTs> try to reinstall ubuntu-sso-client-gtk
[13:22] <hyde> yeah, when you do that, it should say why it can't be installed
[13:23] <hyde> there's probably some strange conflict
[13:23] <hyde> so it may suggest to remove something and install that, in which case look what it is going to uninstall before accepting...
[13:23] <rima> ok
[13:23] <hyde> btw, how did you create the situation?
[13:24] <hakim> having issues mounting a drive that worked previously with no issues... can anyone help here is the error i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/7923767/
[13:24] <rima> i had a problem installing software so i followed instructoins online on how to fix it. then 1 problem lead to another
[13:25] <rima> what is the command for reinstalling that thing?
[13:25] <hyde> apt-get install ...
[13:25] <rtur> Hey. In the Build-Depends section of a control file I want to specify libboost-dev(=1.49), the current Version is 1.49.0.ubuntu1 but to me only the 1.49 matters. I try to build the package with sbuild and it somehow doesn't find the package, what is the right syntax for it ?
[13:26] <hyde> rima: one thing you can try is apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:26] <whiskers75> GRUB question: if I shift around partitions (including the /boot partition), will update-grub notify GRUB of the new locations or will I need to run grub-install again?
[13:26] <rima> hyde the dist-upgrade gave an error saying could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock etc.
[13:27] <hyde> did you remember to run it as root
[13:27] <hyde> or so that no other program was using the pacakage information
[13:27] <rtur> whiskers75: update-grub regenerates the menu file, so I guess yes it should work
[13:28] <whiskers75> rtur: but will update-grub notify grub that the /boot partition moved?
[13:28] <rima> ok im tyring again
[13:28] <hakim> having issues mounting a drive that worked previously with no issues... can anyone help here is the error i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/7923767/
[13:29] <rima> ok i ran as root, 0 upgraded, 0 not upgraded, etc
[13:29] <rima> all 0
[13:29] <Ironwave> Question, invalid operation.
[13:29] <rtur> whiskers75: Oh.. probably not. Since update-grub only calls grub-mkconfig -o path
[13:30] <hyde> rima: so what does it say when you sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sso-client-gtk
[13:30] <whiskers75> rtur: I'm worried about deleting two partitions and creating a new partition before the ubuntu etended partion
[13:31] <whiskers75> extended*
[13:31] <whiskers75> partition*
[13:31] <codeROOTs> Can you install Appgrid?
[13:31] <codeROOTs> or you get errors there to?
[13:32] <rima> .
[13:32] <Ironwave> Question, invalid operation.  Hi, I ran sudo apt-get apache2 - pc answers password - I type it in, response- E: Invalid operation apache2.  How can I install apache2? Im a newby.
[13:33] <rima> for some reason its not pasting in the irc chat
[13:33] <rtur> whisker75: Sorry, I'm really no expert on grub :) . I guess you will have to run grubinstall after moving the boot partition.
[13:33] <whiskers75> sure
[13:33] <whiskers75> thanks
[13:33] <rima> hyde http://pastebin.com/kxR9vX0Z
[13:33] <rima> thats the error i get
[13:34] <hyde> rima: also, search for "ubuntu held broken packages", at least for me the first google hit looks relevant
[13:34] <kstenger> thanks kostkon, I found this on the way http://askubuntu.com/questions/363354/the-sound-volume-indicator-disappeard-ubuntu-13-10 and it did the trick perfectly. it's something very close to what your other link sugested
[13:35] <rima> i have already gone to that site :/ it dint help much. ill do their process again though
[13:35] <kostkon> kstenger, :)
[13:35] <hyde> rima, which Ubuntu version you actually have?
[13:36] <Ironwave> Question, invalid operation.  Hi, I ran sudo apt-get apache2 - pc answers password - I type it in, response- E: Invalid operation apache2.  How can I install apache2? I downloaded it via browser.
[13:36] <rima> hyde i have ununtu 12.10
[13:37] <hyde> rima: if unsure: cat /etc/issue
[13:37] <hyde> ok
[13:37] <rima> thats another problem, it doesnt upgrade to the newer version
[13:37] <hyde> well, that's not supported any more I think.
[13:37] <hyde> I think you can only upgrade it to 13.04
[13:38] <rima> i've tried to upgrade it i couldnt, should i uninstall ubuntu and install the latest version?
[13:38] <hyde> (and then 13.10 and 14.04... then you can stay with 14.04 until 16.04 comes out, because you can upgrade from LTS to LTS)
[13:38] <hyde> rima: if reinstall is reasonable, then that's probably the easiest way to get a working system
[13:39] <rima> ok thank you very much for your support
[13:39] <hyde> it should be possible to fix the issue, then go through those upgrades to latest version, but... probably more hassle than reinstall
[13:40] <rima> yes, i dont have any important files or programs, i can just reinstall
[13:41] <rima> bye :)
[13:41] <deronnax> hi, UI have a problem with uwsgi
[13:42] <whiskers75> Can someone check if this system will boot? (output from boot info script) http://sprunge.us/UXEW
[13:42] <deronnax> I use the uwsgi from a third-party repo, and I don't want it to start automaticaly, because I already manage him with supervisord
[13:42] <whiskers75> I don't have a LiveCD handy, and can't make one, so I need to be careful here
[13:43] <hakim> having issues mounting a drive that worked previously with no issues... can anyone help here is the error i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/7923767/
[13:43] <acetakwas_> I need help with using golden Dict offline, pls?
[13:43] <deronnax> but it keeps popping and running, nothing work to stop/disable it (service uwsgi stop, update-rc.d uwsgi disable)
[13:43] <deronnax> now I have about 15 running uwsgi ; each time I try to stop, there is more pooping
[13:45] <sdfer>  For some reason my laptop just *wont* boot grub after having installed ubuntu. It just keep booting Windows
[13:45] <sdfer> ive tried with secure boot on and off, nothing
[13:55] <acetakwas_>  Help with offline GoldenDict on Ubuntu please?
[13:56] <mzaza> I had nVidia working probably with Ubuntu, and now all of a sudden when I open the nVidia control panel I find it not detected. I have played with some laptop battery saving modules could it have done the problem?
[13:56] <acetakwas_> How do I save word definitions?
[13:56] <streulma> the mouse on my Macbook Pro 13 inch 2012 is heavy under Ubuntu, is there a fix without using xserver xorg mtrack?
[13:57] <mzaza> I have installed PowerTop before, could it have caused the problems?
[13:58] <AlexPortable> hi
[13:59] <AlexPortable> what was the software called to make photo's with webcam?
[13:59] <streulma> AlexPortable cheese
[13:59] <AlexPortable> thanks
[14:00] <streulma> AlexPortable default installed in 14.04
[14:00] <bolt> What could cause /etc/shells to be missing? I logged in to troubleshoot vsftpd on an Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS VPS and it's complaining about that file not being there.
[14:02] <RalfJ> hi - is it possible to install ruby2 without ruby1.9? for some reason, the first seems to depend on the latter. which doesnt make much sense to me... Im not 14.04.
[14:02] <RalfJ> *Im on 14.04
[14:03] <TeraJL> i've been having this bug almost since ubuntu 12.04, and it's one of my most used shortcuts, can somone test it and mark it if it affetcts you, so you help me get fixed
[14:04] <pbx> RalfJ, what have you tried?
[14:05] <TeraJL> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1349436
[14:06] <RalfJ> pbx: I apt-get installed ruby2.0
[14:06] <RalfJ> but that depends on ruby which depends on ruby1.9
[14:09] <whiskers75> help, I broke my grub
[14:09] <whiskers75> running bootrepair
[14:10] <whiskers75> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7924301/
[14:10] <whiskers75> says unknown filesystem
[14:10] <joe-w-bimedina> Can someone show me how I can add a hotkey that uses the f3 and f4 keys in gedit I have tried many things but those 2 keys(actually reassigning all f* keys) won't work.
[14:10] <whiskers75> when I boot it from a vmdk
[14:12] <hakim> having issues mounting a drive that worked previously with no issues... can anyone help here is the error i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/7923767/
[14:13] <tolbertm14041> how do you change the motd, it keeps getting reset right after i reboot
[14:15] <jayar> looking for something like Android Device Manager for Ubuntu
[14:15] <simpleuser> Hi there. How to use bluetooth ? I’m using Xubuntu with i3 (instead of Xubuntu session).
[14:16] <Kaco> hello ty vole
[14:18] <Kaco> Pa
[14:18] <rodd> Hi, is there a tool where I can change keys in my keyboard? ex. replace pageUp with Home
[14:19] <Nightling> hello, anyone tried to comple grsecurity patched kernels on a laptop thats uses legacy nvidia driver?
[14:20] <Nightling> it compiled successfuly but when i boot it up its generating errors for the nvdia module and stuff that uses it crashes
[14:27] <samthewildone> Oh boy, I don't know what ubuntu did but, 14.04.1 works like a charm.
[14:27] <hakim> having issues mounting a drive that worked previously with no issues... can anyone help here is the error i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/7923767/
[14:27] <samthewildone> Everything runs amazingly smooth for the first time and works.
[14:28] <samthewildone> So far I had one system crash but, nothing is perfect.
[14:28] <neilmalk> hi
[14:28] <samthewildone> neilmalk, hey
[14:29] <neilmalk> does anyone know where "nautilus-actions" stores the scripts? i want to have a copy of that but i can't find it
[14:29] <samthewildone> I would believe that would be in the ~./username folder.
[14:30] <Eduardo_> Hi, i have problems with GRUB instalation, "cant install the pakage GRUB-PC in /target/ the install system cant run without manager GRUB"
[14:30] <samthewildone> someone else will correct me if I am wrong.
[14:30] <Eduardo_> :'( Sorry my bad english
[14:30] <neilmalk> hi samthewildone, i was reading it stores it in gconf but i still can't find it. Also i tried under .config but no luck
[14:31] <neilmalk> Eduardo_ google for "ubuntu boot-repair", i used that method with livecd and it works fine
[14:33] <Eduardo_> Believe me i try all the posible solutions in web, but cant repair grub, the only way to run an Operating System is with Hirens Boo CD
[14:34] <hakim> having issues mounting a drive that worked previously with no issues... can anyone help here is the error i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/7923767/
[14:34] <hakim> can anyne help please
[14:35] <neilmalk> Eduardo_ try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVx86VbRJkQ
[14:35] <Guest92804> What's the output of  dmesg | tail ?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> hakim: is it USB based?
[14:35] <hakim> no sata
[14:36] <hakim> i tried something i found online to get it to work and now the terminal is flashing a bunch of numbers and taking a very long time
[14:36] <neilmalk> hakim, what did you try?
[14:36] <hakim> let me find the link
[14:36] <codeROOTs> Eduardo_ try this one to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajs9rO5upZA
[14:37] <Eduardo_> i will see :)
[14:37] <hakim> http://askubuntu.com/questions/322070/how-can-i-fix-mounting-my-data-drive-after-a-crash
[14:37] <neilmalk> good luck Eduardo_ :)
[14:37] <hakim> i tried matty's answer
[14:37] <hakim> last bit of it
[14:37] <hakim> well i did it in order
[14:38] <hakim> so now my terminal is doing something with the drive and its taking a long time
[14:39] <neilmalk> hakim, that's a proably a ton of work.
[14:39] <Guest92804> Wait for it to complete hakim
[14:39] <hakim> dont want to stop it as it might make things worst
[14:39] <hakim> ok
[14:39] <neilmalk> hakim, as Guest92804 says, don't stop it
[14:39] <hakim> okit stopped now its back to this
[14:39] <hakim> hold on
[14:40] <dd__> le wifi ne fonctionne pas avec xubuntu 14.04 que j'ai installé je suis totalement débutant merci de votre aide
[14:40] <hakim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7924510/
[14:40] <hakim> thats where i am now on the terminal
[14:40] <hakim> i have been hitting "yes" for a very long time
[14:40] <Guest92804> Keep hitting yes
[14:40] <hakim> okay
[14:41] <hakim> was holing it
[14:41] <rypervenche> !fr | dd__
[14:41] <hakim> and i think one of them may have been a very long one
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> hakim: probably easier to wipe clean and restore from backups
[14:42] <hakim> okay it seems to be done
[14:42] <hakim> assuming i have back ups
[14:42] <hakim> data on the drive wasnt critcal
[14:42] <hakim> so i didnt back it up
[14:42] <hakim> but i would still like to get it back
[14:43] <hakim> actionparsnip: you think its corrupted data andi should just write it off?
[14:44] <hakim> well that didnt work
[14:44] <hakim> still get the same error code when trying to access the drive
[14:44] <hakim> well when trying to mount it
[14:44] <daftykins> hakim: how many superblocks have you tried?
[14:44] <hakim> one
[14:44] <daftykins> ...
[14:44] <ikonia> try them all
[14:44] <daftykins> keep going.
[14:44] <ikonia> the last guy I helped got luck on the last one
[14:45] <hakim> will all of them take that long daftykins: ?
[14:45] <hakim> okay
[14:45] <daftykins> hakim: how long is a piece of string?
[14:45] <hakim> ??
[14:45] <hakim> ill keep going
[14:47] <chang_> .
[14:50] <hakim> are ssd's more reliable than regular HDD's?
[14:52] <compdoc> hakim, they are pretty reliable, but they can fail, just like hdds
[14:52] <Kaco> reliability improved in past few years, and ssds are now comparable to hdds
[14:53] <hakim> so they were not as reliable in the past
[14:53] <ChaosTheory> hi all
[14:53] <tonyt> can someone tell me what the terninal command is to see the current path?
[14:53] <hakim> but now reliability is about the same
[14:55] <rww> tonyt: pwd
[14:56] <rww> tonyt: unless you meant "path" as in the list of directories searched when you type in a command, in which case echo $PATH
[14:56] <tonyt> k ill try
[14:56] <ChaosTheory> the unity desktop isn't loading after i login, i logged into a guest session and everything is working fine. i did install an update to unity yesterday so i'm guessing that's what has broken it, what do people suggest to fix this?
[14:58] <ChaosTheory> these are the packages that broke unity http://paste.ubuntu.com/7924664/
[14:59] <daftykins> ChaosTheory: try - http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[15:00] <hakim> is there a faster way to fix the superblocks? one that doesnt require me to hold y down?
[15:02] <rww> hakim: add the -y parameter to your fsck command
[15:02] <Nivex> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-notifier/+bug/1344762
[15:02] <gerep> Hi all. I'm trying to run this on my bash: for i in {1..10} mkdir "dir_$i", so it will create 10 folders (dir_1, dir_2, etc) I ran this on my ArchLinux and on a CentOS but when I run this on ubuntu, it creates a directory like this: dir_{1..10}, what am I doing wrong?
[15:02] <Nivex> The silence is deafening.
[15:03] <ChaosTheory> daftykins, i tried the script method and that has done the trick, thank you very much!
[15:03] <hakim> rww: sorry bud im a total noob at this
[15:03] <hakim> dont know how to do that
[15:03] <Theory> gerep: is this a script file with #!/bin/sh at the top, rather than #!/bin/bash ?
[15:03] <gerep> #!/bin/bash
[15:03] <gerep> Theory: #!/bin/bash
[15:05] <hakim> rww: e2fsck -y -b SUPERBLOCK_NUMBER_HERE /dev/sda1 ???? is that what i use?
[15:05] <simpleuser> How to use bluetooth ? I’m using Xubuntu with i3 (instead of Xubuntu session).
[15:06] <Ironwave> Hi, I ran sudo apt-get apache2 - pc answers password - I type it in, response- E: Invalid operation apache2.  How can I install apache2? I downloaded it via browser.
[15:06] <MacroMan> I'm struggling to understand cron syntax at the moment.
[15:06] <rww> Ironwave: sudo apt-get install apache2
[15:06] <jagat_> i am unable to locate the openstack icehouse packages on ubuntu 12.O4 even after installing and updating all the required packages.please help
[15:07] <MacroMan> I want to run every five minutes, so I'm thinking "1/5 * * * * script.sh". Will that work?
[15:07] <Ironwave> rww: Thanks, worked instantly!
[15:08] <rww> MacroMan: change the 1 at the start to *
[15:08] <rww> MacroMan: otherwise, yes, that'll work
[15:08] <MacroMan> Ironwave, it may be easier to install a lamp stack if you want a web server: sudo apt-get install lamp-server
[15:09] <MacroMan> Which will install Apache, MySQL and PHP
[15:09] <daftykins> well guys, a certain free Linux course starts today so we might get more users doing their homework
[15:09] <MacroMan> rww, thanks
[15:09] <Ironwave> MacroMan: Im following a tutorial, im completely new at all of this, so I wont know what to do. Thanks for the sugestion, Ill read a bit up on LAMP
[15:10] <TheBlindOwl> Hello . Noob here. i have an issue. i'm running Lubuntu right now but i need to install Windows(need of some windows-only programs in work) and dual boot. I dont exactly know the hardware inside my pc. i need help from a more advanced user who can help me find out what hardware exactly i have so that i can download the needed windows drivers for them. any help will be appreciated
[15:10] <MacroMan> Well, if you install them seperately, you'll have to configure them all manually to work together. This may be what you want as you are learning, but in any real world situation, I wouldn't waste my time and just install lamp
[15:11] <daftykins> TheBlindOwl: this is not Windows support.
[15:11] <daftykins> TheBlindOwl: go and try ##hardware
[15:11] <MacroMan> TheBlindOwl, Just run a virtual machine. Install VirtualBox
[15:11] <Ironwave> MacroMan: Thanks for the sugestion, Ill do as you say!
[15:11] <jagat_>  i am unable to locate the openstack icehouse packages on ubuntu 12.O4 even after installing and updating all the required packages.please help
[15:11] <TheBlindOwl> daftykins, I know . and i told you that i'm already on lubuntu. i need tools to detect my hardware my friend. no need to act like that
[15:12] <daftykins> TheBlindOwl: your issue pertains to Windows, thus it isn't appropriate here.
[15:13] <daftykins> TheBlindOwl: if it's a factory system, look it up online - if it's a custom build, remove the side panel and read model numbers. all this and more, available in ##hardware
[15:13] <MacroMan> TheBlindOwl, or try Wine if you just want to run a couple of Window$ programs
[15:13] <TheBlindOwl> daftykins, So this operating system has no tool to find out what hardware is exactly the OS installed on?
[15:13] <basketball> when i go to addictinggames.com to play a game in chromium it says No Plugin to display content
[15:13] <MacroMan> basketball, That's because chromium doesn't have Flash installed
[15:13] <MacroMan> Use Chrome instead
[15:13] <daftykins> TheBlindOwl: that's beside the point
[15:13] <TheBlindOwl> MacroMan, Both Wine and Virtualbox were unable to run my applications properly.
[15:13] <Ironwave> MacroMan: command sudo apt-get install lamp-server gives the following error. E:Unable to locate package lamp-server
[15:14] <MacroMan> Ironwave, Sorry, out a hat on the end: sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[15:14] <Azer> TheBlindOwl, /proc/
[15:14] <Ironwave> MacroMan: Thanks, worked instantly!
[15:15] <MacroMan> Ironwave, np
[15:15] <leion> after you are on windows i would have a MS software for you:TheBlindOwl
[15:15] <topkek32juan> hi ubuntu seem slow for me
[15:16] <leion> everest
[15:16] <leion> and aida64
[15:16] <topkek32juan> i7 3770, 8 gb ddr3 ram, 256 gb samsung 840 pro ssd
[15:16] <topkek32juan> shouldnt b slow???
[15:16] <topkek32juan> GTX 660 TI
[15:17] <MacroMan> TheBlindOwl, There are tools in Ubuntu to find out hardware info. Try hardinfo: sudo apt-get install hardinfo
[15:17] <leion> are you slow in x-window?
[15:17] <Azer> topkek32juan, slow is a relative term
[15:17] <topkek32juan> Azer: graphix
[15:17] <topkek32juan> and it tear rly bad
[15:17] <leion> maybe you should have a Nvidia driver
[15:18] <TheBlindOwl> MacroMan,  thanks alot
[15:18] <topkek32juan> i do
[15:18] <Azer> topkek32juan, have you run glxgears?
[15:18] <topkek32juan> nvidia binary driver version 331.38 from nviai-331
[15:18] <leion> download it on Nvidia official website
[15:19] <topkek32juan> yes it work
[15:19] <topkek32juan> 303 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.462 FPS
[15:19] <topkek32juan> 300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.995 FPS
[15:19] <daftykins> leion: that's not what we advise around here.
[15:19] <hakim> will this keep me from having to hold down y while fixing superblocks sudo e2fsck -y -b 163840 /dev/sdb1
[15:19] <leion> sorry
[15:19] <Azer> topkek32juan,  301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.191 FPS
[15:19] <hakim> yup it worked
[15:19] <hakim> nevermind
[15:20] <leion> ^_^
[15:20] <topkek32juan> do u have tear problem Azer
[15:20] <Azer> topkek32juan, i do not.
[15:20] <topkek32juan> how u fix
[15:21] <hakim> is there a way i can use my computer as a cloud without needing hosting or a domain name?
[15:21] <leion> @leion
[15:25] <MacroMan> hakim, What do you mean by cloud? A web server? File server?
[15:26] <topkek32juan> hakim: maybe owncloud?
[15:26] <hakim> like dropbox...but using my own pc @ MacroMan
[15:27] <hakim> topkek32juan: im trying owncloud but dont i need https for that?
[15:28] <LordDoskias> hello, i'm using ubuntu 12.04 and just installed linux-tools but i still can't use perf. I have /usr/bin/perf and i get: perf not found for kernel 3.2.0-65
[15:28] <LordDoskias> oh, linux-tools has installed perf for kernel -67 and I'm running -65 ..
[15:28] <arif-ali> hakim, no, you don't need https for owncloud
[15:28] <topkek32juan> hakim: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/3-self-hosted-dropbox-alternatives-tested/
[15:28] <arif-ali> I use owncloud myself
[15:29] <hakim> how do you access it with your mobile device @arif-ali
[15:29] <techie_ps> hi
[15:30] <arif-ali> hakim: using the owncloud client for android
[15:30] <hakim> how do i connect it to my desktop..it says cant establish connection server took too long to respond
[15:30] <hakim> andorid client is saying that
[15:31] <arif-ali> are you on the same network, and then you need to know the IP of your machine to connect
[15:33] <hakim> no
[15:33] <hakim> im using my mobile network
[15:33] <hakim> i want to be able to connect from anywhere
[15:33] <arif-ali> if you are not on the same network, or the machine is not routable then it won't work
[15:34] <topkek32juan> port foward
[15:34] <hakim> ohh i see
[15:34] <hakim> yeah i want access from anywhere
[15:35] <arif-ali> hakim: I tend to NAT port 80 from my router to my server, and then have NAT reflection from internally done
[15:35] <arif-ali> and then you should be able to access the server from the external IP
[15:35] <techie_ps> hey guys i am getting an error while extracting a zip file on my ubuntu os.....it consists of so many pics..I setup a password..even though i enter correct password its giving same error
[15:37] <zeust> wassup
[15:38] <fridaynext> I'm having some trouble creating a RAID5 array with four disks I've just formatted/partitioned
[15:38] <fridaynext> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=S6n34h9w
[15:38] <fridaynext> I'm getting the message "mdadm: super1.x cannot open /dev/sdb1: Device or resource busy" - but it's not busy.  Any ideas?
[15:42] <fridaynext> I'm not sure what this output means, but I'm guessing it has something to do with why sdb1 is 'busy' - http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=hRfEHjYm
[15:42] <daftykins> fridaynext: what kind of NAS is this?
[15:43] <fridaynext> daftykins: home built.
[15:43] <fridaynext> running ubuntu 14.04.1
[15:43] <daftykins> ok so it is actually a PC, good stuff
[15:43] <daftykins> yeah inactive doesn't sound good. i have no experience with that though
[15:43] <jayar> looking for something like Android Device Manager for Ubuntu
[15:44] <fridaynext> daftykins: I just 'stopped' the array, now i'll try to rebuild it again (doesn't show up in mdstat this time)
[15:44] <daftykins> jayar: 'like' ? what about it itself? :P
[15:44] <jayar> track your device when lost
[15:45] <fridaynext> These four drives were used in a previous RAID5 array, and it seems there's still data 'stuck' to them.
[15:45] <fridaynext> Ah, I just tried to recreate it, and I think it worked...
[15:47] <fridaynext> wow, the 'recovery' is going incredibly slow.  Why does it take so long to build a RAID5 array with nothing on it?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> fridaynext: its writing and reading data. Depends on drive speeds etc
[15:48] <fridaynext> ActionParsnip: but what is it writing/reading?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> fridaynext: its rebuilding the array. Never worked in a server environment?
[15:48] <fridaynext> ActionParsnip: yes, I set this server up about a year ago, and I'm now migrating it, but I deleted all the data on the drives, so they're all empty
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> fridaynext: no, as in a data centre or similar?
[15:48] <fridaynext> I guess I haven't totally wrapped my head around what creating a RAID array entails.
[15:48] <fridaynext> ActionParsnip: nope, haven't ever worked in a DC.
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> fridaynext: a drive fails, you pull it out, replace it then the data has to be rebuilt on the new drive
[15:49] <fridaynext> ActionParsnip: I understand that - I just don't understand why the initial setup - with no data on it whatsoever, would take more than a couple moments.
[15:49] <jayar> never mind. i'll just it from my windows machine
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> fridaynext: it still needs to recalculate stuff and setup the array-ness on each drive
[15:52] <loculinux> holaa
[15:53] <wulong710> hello. When i use "nemo ./" . xubuntu show me warning "Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-...: Connection refused".  I google for this error, but can't resolve it. Anyone had met with this situation?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Wujiheng: try:     nemo `pwd`
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> !info nemo
[15:58] <Pici> wulong710: does it still open?
[16:02] <Ironwave> Hi, Installed lamp. run apache2 successfully, but when I invoke mysql it says Unknown job.  ex. service mysql start
[16:04] <MacroMan> Ironwave, You may need to start via init.d: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[16:05] <Ironwave> MacroMan: Ill play with that thanks
[16:08] <seanh_> Anyone else having a problem with Unity stopping responding to mouse clicks or scrolls?
[16:09] <seanh_> On 14.04
[16:09] <seanh_> Running 'unity' in a terminal fixes it, but it keeps breaking every few seconds
[16:09] <seanh_> Just started happening today, so I'm wondering if it's due to a recent update
[16:10] <tsuyoshi_> is for xubuntu opera better or firefox?
[16:11] <ikonia> no
[16:11] <dd13> hello i installed ubunutu on my asus g75 laptop when ever i close the laptop screen  it goes to sleep when i open it the keyboard stop working and i cant use it to enter my password
[16:11] <ikonia> it's whatever one you like best / meets your needs best
[16:14] <dd13> any help please ?
[16:14] <dd13> hello i installed ubunutu on my asus g75 laptop when ever i close the laptop screen it goes to sleep when i open it the keyboard stop working and i cant use it to enter my password
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> seanh_: have you tried a non-compoziting session like XFCE (installable with: sudo apt-get install xfce4)
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> dd13: let me search the web....
[16:15] <seanh_> ActionParsnip: I may have to try changing window managers, yes
[16:15] <seanh_> I'm kind of surprised that Unity is this broken though
[16:15] <dd13> actionparsnip Yes or atleast give me keywords i can use in my serach
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> dd13: have you tried adding the boot option: atkbd.reset
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> dd13: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1335007
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> dd13: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1238194 may help
[16:22] <cuddylier> hi
[16:23] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to bring up all interfaces on ubuntu 14.04 instead of manually bringing up each one using ifup eth0:5 as an example.
[16:23] <dd13> actionparsnip thx ill check them now
[16:23] <sakhre> My VirtualBox stopped working after the recent kernel update. I tried everything I found in duckduckgo.
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> sakhre: can you boot the old kernel?
[16:28] <sakhre> ActionParsnip, yes, already tried that. Didn't work.
[16:28] <sakhre> It booted, but still VB had the same message.
[16:29] <TJ-> cuddylier: See "man interfaces" and the description of the keyword "auto"
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> sakhre: ask in #vbox too
[16:31] <cuddylier> hi
[16:31] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to bring up all interfaces on ubuntu 14.04 instead of manually bringing up each one using ifup eth0:5 as an example.
[16:31] <weueyi> warning
[16:31] <weueyi>  you may be  watched
[16:31] <weueyi> do usa&israel use the internet(facebook,youtube,twitter, chat rooms ..ect)to spy??
[16:31] <weueyi> do usa&israel use the internet 2 collect informations,,can we call that spying??
[16:31] <weueyi> do they record&analyse everything we do on the internet,,can they harm you using these informations??
[16:31] <weueyi> ÊÍÐíÑ
[16:31] <weueyi> warning
[16:31] <unopaste> weueyi you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:33] <matty_r> does ifup --all work?
[16:33] <matty_r> cuddylier http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/ifup.8.html
[16:36] <Ironwave> MacroMan: e:sudo/etc/init.e/mysql start    and  d:sudo/etc/init.e/mysql start   Both answer   No such file or directory.       whereis mysql     mysql: /usr/bin/mysql/etc/mysql/usr/lib/     (and so on, thus I do hae it on my machiene.)
[16:41] <patrick_> im sorry that this is off topic but does anybody have a wikipedia acount i can use?
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> patrick_: try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:42] <crazysheep> hi, im a linux/ubuntu noob
[16:42] <crazysheep> can someone briefly explain udisks and /etc/fstab
[16:42] <crazysheep> how they interact and how they are related?
[16:43] <patrick_> ok
[16:43] <patrick_> thanks
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: udisks is an abstraction for enumerating block devices and performing operations on them, such as creating file systems or mounting. Any application can access the org.freedesktop.UDisks service on the system message bus. Some operations (such as formatting disks etc.) are restricted using PolicyKit.
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: https://launchpad.net/udisks
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: first link when I searched the web
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: when a new disk is added, if there is an entry for it in /etc/fstab it will be used
[16:44] <crazysheep> ActionParsnip: sure but thats a lot of jargon when i dont know all that much atm
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: time to go find out what the jargon means....
[16:45] <crazysheep> ActionParsnip: so can i think of /etc/fstab as a passive file that automounts while udisks is a higher level interface for something like the 'mount' command?
[16:46] <zputrle> hello
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: yes but fstab is used to mount partitions at boot too
[16:46] <crazysheep> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[16:47] <crazysheep> ActionParsnip: i have an issue where i can't change permissions of files on an ntfs windows partition
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: NTFS cant hold Linux ACLs
[16:47] <crazysheep> ActionParsnip: i've found a few links that suggest changing the /etc/fstab file to have a few options such as exec
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: you can only set the access for the whole partition at mount and it applies to all datas
[16:48] <crazysheep> ActionParsnip: is there such a [set of] option[s] when using udisks?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: you wont be able to run your Windows games in Wine if they are installed in Windows
[16:48] <crazysheep> ActionParsnip: just trying to execute some scripts/compiled c/cpp programs atm
[16:49] <vroomfondel> how comes that the shell commands lag behind the file system state? I 'ls -l'ed and the files which were generated there a minute ago didn't show up. After a while they did.
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: it will need to be mounted and allow execution
[16:50] <apple> hiä
[16:50] <crazysheep> ActionParsnip: is there an option when running udisks to allow that? or do i have to give it an entry in /etc/fstab with the appropriate options?
[16:51] <Guest10883> hi
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> crazysheep: I'd use fstab personally but I dont use NTFS, maybe there is a more graceful method
[16:51] <Apple1> hi
[16:51] <jimi_> Where can I see a list of touchscreen supported laptops laptop mode, tablet mode, tent / stand modes etc
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> !hcl
[16:52] <Apple1> hiä
[16:52] <crazysheep> ActionParsnip: okay, thanks for your help!