[01:22] <NCommander> tlee2, you have to use the mkimage command
[01:22] <NCommander> tlee2, we made that change to make other things in our backend work a bit more sanely :-)
[10:20] <erikcorry> Anyone awake?
[10:21] <erikcorry> I tried rootstock.
[10:21] <erikcorry> It did a whooole lot of work.
[10:21] <erikcorry> I'm wondering if it made anything.
[10:21] <erikcorry> No new files in current directory.
[10:21] <erikcorry> Where should I be looking?
[10:27] <ogra> there should be files in the current dir
[10:27] <ogra> what was the commandline you used, which release are you on ?
[10:29] <erikcorry> I'm running on a Hardy-based x86 host.
[10:29] <erikcorry> So probably I'm hosed?
[10:30] <erikcorry> sudo ./rootstock -f name.example.com -l erikcorry -p foobar
[10:31] <ogra> hardy is to old
[10:31] <erikcorry> damn
[10:32] <ogra> you can bootstrap a jaunty chroot (using the jaunty debootstrap) and run rootstock inside there
[10:32] <erikcorry> OK
[10:32] <ogra> (well, hardy isnt necessarily to old, but i never tested it on hardy and didnt develop it on hardy so i wouldnt know what issues can come up there)
[10:33] <erikcorry> When it says I: Switching to Virtual Machine for second stage processing
[10:34] <erikcorry> I can't see anything.
[10:34] <erikcorry> Would I be able to see the VM running if I had my X display set up right?
[10:35] <ogra> nope, it doesnt use graphical output
[10:35] <ogra> it spawns the VM with a serial terminal and the script interacts through that with the VM
[10:36] <ogra> might be that hardy's qemu doesnt work for armel
[10:37] <ogra> we didnt support that arch back then, so i dont know if anyone paid attention to arm stuff
[10:38] <ogra> though if you say it switches to the VM, did you wait long enough ... it can take quite a while until it moves on
[10:38] <erikcorry> It's running at 100% CPU so it's doing something.
[10:38] <erikcorry> I have qemu 0.91
[10:39] <ogra> how long did you wait yet
[10:39] <erikcorry>  I waited a long time and it continued.
[10:39] <ogra> ah
[10:39] <ogra> yeah, the qemu part is very slow
[10:39] <erikcorry> Now it's scrolled off the top of the scrollback buffer so I can't see what happened
[10:39] <ogra> i hope to fix that for karmic
[10:39] <erikcorry> I'm running it again.
[10:39] <erikcorry> I'll report what happens.
[10:39] <erikcorry> Is it just because the qemu ARM emulator is slow?
[10:40] <ogra> yeah
[10:41] <erikcorry> I: Unpacking required packages...
[10:41] <ogra> looks good :)
[10:42] <ogra> just let it run... make some coffee ... drink it ... take a walk and then look again :)
[11:12] <lool> ogra: Could you blacklist older dists in rootstock
[11:12] <lool> ogra: Also could you stop installing ubuntu-minimal by default?  It's pulled by debootstrap in all cases and breaks on Debian
[11:12] <ogra> rootstock only builds for jaunty and karmic and is only packaged for karmic
[11:13] <lool> Oh so it refuses a hardy target already ok
[11:13] <ogra> i cant stop people from pulling from bzr
[11:13] <lool> We could runtime check for the qemu version if that's the issue
[11:14] <ogra> -minimal was explicitly added as a no-op ... i didnt take debian into account back when i created rootstock
[11:14] <ogra> there is apparently no issue, its just the general slowness
[11:14] <lool> Yeah could you make it "" instead of ubuntu-minimal?
[11:14] <ogra> indeed
[11:14] <lool> Cause it's always pulled
[11:15] <ogra> though it will still break on debian without additional changes i guess
[11:15] <erikcorry> dpkg: failed to write status record about `libxslt1.1' to `/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device
[11:15] <ogra> $DIST defaulting to karmic for example (though you can override it)
[11:16] <ogra> erikcorry, you picked the imagesize wrong
[11:16] <ogra> take a bigger value
[11:16] <erikcorry> Yeah, I just let it use the default.
[11:16] <erikcorry> 1G
[11:16] <erikcorry> 4G is big enough?
[11:16] <ogra> future versions will properly compute the size they need based on the package selection
[11:17] <ogra> what do you install ? a desktop will need 4G, yes
[11:17] <erikcorry> Thx
[11:17] <erikcorry> starting it again
[11:17] <erikcorry> I think I probably ran out of host disk space first time I ran it.
[11:17] <erikcorry> Target disk space second time.
[11:18] <ogra> oh, yeah, you will need some space for that on your host :)
[11:18] <ogra> at least the amount of the imagesize
[11:18] <ogra> plus whatever comes out of the script at the end as tarball
[11:19] <ogra> 1.5 times imagesize should be a good measure
[11:27] <ogra> lool, that will require more than ""
[11:28] <ogra> ogra@osiris:~/Devel/branches/rootstock-0.1.1$ LANG=C sudo apt-get -y install ""
[11:28] <ogra> Reading package lists... Done
[11:28] <ogra> Building dependency tree
[11:28] <ogra> Reading state information... Done
[11:28] <ogra> E: Couldn't find package
[11:28] <lool> You need me to help fix that?  :)
[11:28] <ogra> nah
[11:35] <ogra> fixed and pushed
[11:36] <lool> thanks
[11:55] <erikcorry> dpkg-preconfigure: unable to re-open stdin:
[11:55] <erikcorry> It looks like it might be harmless
[12:17] <erikcorry> OK that didn't work.
[12:17] <erikcorry> Looks like my old Qemu isn't up to the task, as you predicted.
[12:25] <erikcorry> Any tips on making a jaunty chroot area with debootstrap?
[12:28] <erikcorry> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebootstrapChroot
[12:28] <erikcorry> " the debootstrap that is bundled with Hardy cannot prepare a Jaunty chroot."
[12:28] <erikcorry> Damn
[12:29] <ogra> its just scripts ... you can pull the jaunty one and just dpkg -i it
[12:31] <erikcorry> It seemed to build something anyway.
[12:31] <erikcorry> But when I chroot into it apt-get doesn't work.
[12:32] <erikcorry> # apt-get install svn
[12:32] <erikcorry> Reading package lists... Done
[12:32] <erikcorry> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:32] <erikcorry> E: Couldn't find package svn
[12:32] <erikcorry> doh!
[12:32] <erikcorry> It's called subversion
[13:44] <erikcorry> Standard debootstrap from jaunty doesn't seem to have a script for karmic.
[13:44] <ogra> no, for jaunty
[13:44] <erikcorry> But if I want the latest greatest ARM stuff I have to use karmic, right?
[13:44] <ogra> if you want the unstable arm stuff you want karmic :)
[13:44] <erikcorry> For some reason the debootstrap I had on hardy already had that script.
[13:44] <ogra> indeed that also has the latest and greatest
[13:45] <erikcorry> Is there any other kind of arm stuff?
[13:45] <erikcorry> :-)
[13:45] <ogra> heh
[13:46] <erikcorry> What's the best way to upgrade one single package?  Just download it as a deb or should I do something to my sources.list file?
[13:47] <erikcorry> Sorry about all these newbie questions.
[13:49] <ogra> what package ?
[13:50] <erikcorry> It's OK.
[13:50] <erikcorry> I found a newer debootstrap than the one that came with jaunty and installed it.
[13:50] <erikcorry> Now I have the karmic script.
[13:51] <ogra> ok
[13:52] <erikcorry> Enhancement request for rootstock:  If the /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/karmic file is not there then give a good error message.
[13:52] <ogra> it does if the debootstrap version isnt right
[13:52] <erikcorry> Debootstrap was newer than 1.0.10
[13:53] <erikcorry> Which I think is what it tests for.
[13:53] <ogra> it looks for something that can build jaunty
[13:53] <ogra> in karmic it is packaged and the package depends hard on the right version
[13:53] <erikcorry> But the -d option defaults to karmic
[13:54] <erikcorry> The standard debootstrap in jaunty is 1.0.12 which can't build karmic.
[13:54] <erikcorry> The 1.0.13~jaunty1_all version can
[13:56] <ogra> right, but i dont want to force jaunty users to update debootstrap, they should use -d jaunty
[13:56] <erikcorry> Whatever -d option they use that should be the one that you check for in /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/
[13:57] <erikcorry> At the moment it bombs out with a cryptic error message and leaves the image mounted.
[13:57] <ogra> thats a bug indeed
[13:57] <ogra> it should clean up after itself
[13:58] <ogra> i will make $DIST default to the host distro and make it throw an error if its pre jaunty
[14:01] <erikcorry> But you do expect that one can build a karmic ARM system on a Jaunty host?
[14:01] <lool> If you install debootstrap probably
[14:02] <ogra> sure
[14:02] <ogra> and thats why the script has a -d option
[14:02] <ogra> the default for that options is picked wrong though
[14:07] <erikcorry> I sent you a patch.
[14:08] <ogra> oh, thanks !
[14:08] <erikcorry> It's not tested :-/
[14:08] <erikcorry> It's just to illustrate what I mean.
[14:08]  * ogra waits for it
[14:08] <ogra> essentially it should just be: DIST=$(lsb_release -cs)
[14:09] <ogra> and probably an error message telling you you cant build for future distros without future debootstrap
[14:09] <ogra> ah, there it is
[14:10] <ogra> perfect, that and the lsb_release change together will make it work right
[14:10]  * ogra adds that to bzr
[14:13] <ogra> erikcorry, mind if i move that check a bit earlier so it fails before it actually uses diskspace ?
[14:15] <ogra> committed and pushed
[14:18] <erikcorry> Sounds fine.
[16:13] <NCommander> lool, ogra, would you like to look over my flash-kernel changes? (I'm about to do an install with them in place to make sure they work as excepted, but I'd like any input: http://paste.ubuntu.com/263860/)
[16:23] <zul> hi has anyone seen bug #416313
[16:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 416313 in samba "On samba of ubuntu-arm, large file copy fails " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416313
[16:55] <lool> ogra: You kicked some live builds?
[16:55] <lool> I mean livefs
[17:24] <tlee> ogra:  How do I use hte linux-mvl-dove from uboot?
[17:24] <ogra> NCommander, ^^^
[17:24] <NCommander> tlee, is your root filesystem ext2 or ext3?
[17:24] <NCommander> If the answer is no, then you can't load it directly :-/
[17:24] <tlee> ext3 on sata
[17:24] <NCommander> Well
[17:25] <NCommander> That will work :-)
[17:25] <NCommander> tlee, are you using a separate boot partition or no?
[17:25] <tlee> yes.
[17:25] <tlee> I can configure it anyway you like.
[17:25]  * NCommander thinks he just found a test victim :-)
[17:25] <tlee> Is there a wiki howto?
[17:26] <NCommander> tlee, its not fully up to dat eyet, I'm currently working on extending u-boot's boot scripts to automatically scan usb and SATA HDDs for the ubuntu boot.scr file :-)
[17:26] <tlee> tlee thinks he just been victimized.  :-)
[17:26] <tlee> I play with boot.scr before.
[17:26] <NCommander> tlee, we do have working live images, but the installer kinda fubar'ed
[17:26] <NCommander> tlee, http://people.canonical.com/~mcasadevall/karmic-desktop-armel+dove.img
[17:27] <NCommander> tlee, download that, stick it on a pendrive, and then you can start the live environment :-)
[17:27] <tlee> Which uboot do I need to support this scan function?
[17:27] <NCommander> tlee, the one I haven't written yet ;-)
[17:28] <tlee> Would the default Y0 uboot work? (Whatever default means...)
[17:28] <NCommander> tlee, (I'm working off the Marvelll 4.2.3 source drop with a few patches to turn the Hush shell on)
[17:28] <NCommander> tlee, you need Y0 4.2.3
[17:28] <NCommander> (check the version string)
[17:28] <tlee> Will check which one I have now.
[17:28] <NCommander> but thats just to start the live image, I'll have a new u-boot binary that sits in NAND flash (vs. spi-nor) which handles the scanning
[17:40] <tlee> NCommander, my uboot is  4.1.7.  Do I get the updated uboot from u?
[17:40] <tlee> or MVL
[17:40] <NCommander> tlee, I'm not sure if I can post u-boot binaries or not
[17:40] <NCommander> but you'll need a newer one :-/
[17:41] <tlee> Will email u....
[19:02] <armin76> NCommander: what is a dove board? :)
[19:03] <ogra> armin76, upcoming hardware
[19:04] <armin76> rabeeh: i want one :P
[19:04] <suihkulokki> without knowing what it is? :)
[19:05] <rjune_> suihkulokki: it's new, therefore it must be cool
[19:05] <ogra> suihkulokki, be sure you want one too once they are on the market
[19:05] <NCommander> armin76, wow, your a real ARM diehard :-)
[19:05] <NCommander> armin76, :-)
[19:05] <armin76> NCommander: i always like to try new stuff :)
[19:10] <NCommander> armin76, I should send you my MIPS laptop
[19:17] <armin76> NCommander: got bored of it? :)
[19:17] <NCommander> armin76, it doesn't work too well with lenny
[19:17] <NCommander> and the Xorg I need is still stuck in sid I think
[19:17] <NCommander> and sid is extra broken recently


[04:02] <thingy> MetaBookfoziS: sata disks will appear as std. scsi drives in linux...e.g. sda/sdb/sdc etc sd[a-z
[04:02] <thingy> ]
[04:02] <MetaBookfoziS> And in that window no any available otpion except escape
[04:02] <ksivaji> genii hi
[04:03] <thingy> MetaBookfoziS: well if its a 500gb drive, you need to find out why bios is only seeing it as ~ 250gb drive before you do anything in linux
[04:03] <MetaBookfoziS> Linux isn't uses bios for it, as i heard
[04:04] <MetaBookfoziS> I don't think one of these (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35550/) are my disk... true?
[04:04] <toxic316> so any one know ?
[04:05] <thingy> MetaBookfoziS: your sata contoller is in that list...you can't see hard drives via lspci!!! do a dmesg | grep sd[a-z
[04:05] <thingy> ]
[04:05] <genii> ksivaji: Hi :)
[04:06] <MetaBookfoziS> that's just ls /dev
[04:06] <MetaBookfoziS> but i try dmesg
[04:07] <MetaBookfoziS> Nothing found for sd[a-z]
[04:07] <MetaBookfoziS> but for sata: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35551/
[04:08] <MetaBookfoziS> the sata link down line is intresting
[04:08] <thingy> MetaBookfoziS: look at lines 15 and 16, you have hardware problems!
[04:09] <thingy> MetaBookfoziS: again, sort out the hardware issue with the disk's geometry not appearing correct in the bios and then try using it in linux or windows
[04:09] <MetaBookfoziS> i see that in windows
[04:09] <MetaBookfoziS> my borther used for backup this disk (at 60mb/s speed) without problems, in an other machine
[04:10] <MetaBookfoziS> so the disk are good... but my mb looks not ...
[04:10] <MetaBookfoziS> i'm trying google
[04:10] <bahr> Is there an open-source alternative for Acronis True Image, so that I can make a complete system recovery of my Kubuntu and XP if something goes wrong?
[04:11] <thingy> bahr: closest app is this : http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page it does partitions only i think
[04:12] <toxic316> how do i make my NTFS external harddrive mount
[04:12] <bahr> thingy: ok thank you. I'll take a look at it
[04:13] <toxic316> any one idea on mounting harddrives
[04:14] <thingy> toxic316: what type of drive is it, how is it connected to your machine?
[04:21] <toxic316> any one want to tell me a program for external harddrive
[04:23] <toxic316> thingy its NTFS formated and USB connection
[04:24] <dangaio> How do I update the kernel? I currently have 2.6.15 generic installed and I would like to install 2.6.20
[04:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> upgrade to feisty
[04:24] <toxic316> i am on feisty
[04:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> not you :P
[04:24] <dangaio> I am on feisty
[04:25] <toxic316> most people are on feisty not
[04:25] <toxic316> now*
[04:25] <thingy> toxic316: in a terminal type in tail -f /var/log/messages then press enter a few times to create some blank space at the bottom of the screen. Un plug the usb hard drive from the machine and plug it in again. it will report message on the terminal saying so so device plugged in and it tell what the device name is for the drive e.g. sda or sdb or sdc etc
[04:25] <toxic316> thank you thingy
[04:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> dangaio: if you're on feisty, you don't have 2.6.15 unless you messed with something drastic.  2.6.20 is the default kernel.  2.6.15 was dapper, and 2.6.17 was edgy
[04:26] <dangaio> well, when I typed in uname -a, I get Linux AMD64 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:26] <dangaio> Oh, sorry, my bad.
[04:26] <dangaio> Can't read
[04:26] <dangaio> LOL
[04:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah ha :)
[04:26] <owl> hihi
[04:27] <Daisuke_Laptop> well at least that was an easy one to figure out :D
[04:28] <dangaio> Ok, this is why I was asking... I have 1GB on my pc and just having the system running with only superkaramaba active, it is using over 936MB and 63MB of swap.
[04:28] <dangaio> It is making my system sluggish compared to my laptop.
[04:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> ooh, yeah, it sounds like something's seriously hogging your ram
[04:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> nfs shares in windows is so much easier than trying to mess with samba :D
[04:30] <dangaio> My laptop has the same packages installed and is also 1 GB of ram. It is only using 384Mb.
[04:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> is there an orphaned process on the desktop taking up a ton of ram?
[04:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> should have said "desktop machine"
[04:32] <dangaio> looking at the system processes, it doesn't appear so.
[04:33] <dangaio> CPU is constantly jumping from 10 to 35% usage and the ram is sitting at 951MB
[04:33] <dangaio> when I type free, this is what I get:
[04:34] <dangaio> total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[04:34] <dangaio> Mem:       1035780     973720      62060          0     106992     605884
[04:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> what about top
[04:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> mem and swap lines
[04:35] <dangaio> give me a sec
[04:36] <owl> btw i've just another question regarding to my problem i had yesterday... as mentonoed i had the problem, that 2 cds weren't read correctly... burned the iso to a dvd and it worked... could that be an issue with my cd-drive?
[04:36] <dangaio> Mem:   1035780k total,   978644k used,    57136k free,   107200k buffers
[04:36] <dangaio> Swap:  1052216k total,    64412k used,   987804k free,   610256k cached
[04:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's not good at all
[04:36] <dangaio> I see that I have a major amount of buffers open.
[04:37] <_Ace2016_> Hi all
[04:37] <dangaio> Hello Ace
[04:37] <owl> hi _Ace2016_
[04:37] <_Ace2016_> anyone know how i can resize my desktop to take up 800x600 in the middle of a 1024x768 screen? like this: http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktoptm2.jpg
[04:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> i understand the high ram usage, because of how linux manages memory, but it shouldn't spill over into swap, it should free ram as it's needed
[04:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> so i'm not entirely sure what it's doing there
[04:39] <_Ace2016_> Daisuke_Laptop: well do you have an app taking up all the ram? what does ksysguard show?
[04:39] <anon32> Daisuke_Laptop, what? That looks normal to me.
[04:39] <dangaio> that is why I am stumped. With gentoo, I never ran into this problem
[04:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> _Ace2016_: mine's fine
[04:39] <dangaio> _Ace2016_ it is I that has the problem.
[04:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm trying to figure out what's up with dangaio's system :)
[04:39] <_Ace2016_> oh ok
[04:40] <_Ace2016_> what problem?
[04:40] <yamal> dangaio: these numbers are normal... only 64 mb of swap is used, which can happen if indexing or such things are run
[04:40] <anon32> _Ace2016_, do you just want your wallpaper centered?  That would be a driver option.
[04:41] <anon32> got broken pixels or something? that's a pretty unusual feature.
[04:42] <dangaio> yarnal, ok, it's just that it's sometime a little sluggish. Like if I activate katapult and type it takes a while for it to catch up with what I have just typed, or screen savers run slow (even though the drivers are loaded correctly)
[04:42] <_Ace2016_> yea a line on my display :(
[04:43] <shadowhywind> Does anyone have any ideas why if i am using twinview, that kubuntu says that it is just one very large single monitor?
[04:43] <dangaio> with my laptop, almost the same hardware settings, it works wonderfully and only using 348MB...
[04:43] <anon32> shadowhywind, because that's how twinview works
[04:43] <anon32> it glues together 2 framebuffers so that your software sees 1 display, and then the driver splits the framebuffer to each physical display
[04:44] <yamal> dangaio: check if something hogs the cpu when that happens. The ram usage is not the problem
[04:44] <shadowhywind> anon32 is there anyway to change that, So if i do a fullscreen game, for example, it doesn't get displayed in the middle of the split
[04:44] <anon32> it's a hack to let you move stuff between your monitors
[04:44] <dangaio> ok, let me see.
[04:44] <anon32> shadowhywind, compile the game with xinerama support.
[04:44] <anon32> or disable your secondary display
[04:45] <shadowhywind> anon32 know of an easy way, without having to modify xorg and restarting X? a nice little konsole command?
[04:45] <dangaio> wtf? now it is working fine... <dangaio is smashing his head on keyboard>
[04:45] <llutz> shadowhywind: use nvidia-settings
[04:46] <anon32> shadowhywind, to disable your secondary? You have to define a 1-monitor configuration in Xorg.conf in order to switch on-the-fly.
[04:46] <dangaio> Ok, yamal, I found the problem...
[04:46] <shadowhywind> anon32 wait, are you saying that xorg.conf can handle switching when ever i need it, without restarting X?
[04:47] <anon32> Yes, but only if you predefine those modes you want to switch to in xorg.conf
[04:47] <genius> hey necesito ayuda please! no se como instalar programas a mi kubuntu
[04:47] <Jucato> !es
[04:47] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:47] <Jucato> !pt
[04:47] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:47] <dangaio> Man, I didn't know that amarok uses 43% of the cpu.
[04:48] <anon32> shadowhywind, in your metamodes line in xorg.conf, add one that's like this: "1600x1200,NULL;"
[04:48] <shadowhywind> anon32 anuchance do you have a link/or time to help me set that up with, At the current moment, i just change xorg files for when i need it
[04:48] <dangaio> cpu is getting a really good work out that way.
[04:48] <anon32> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_nVidia_TwinView
[04:49] <vbgunz> anyone try this and is it any good? http://tv.seas.harvard.edu
[04:49] <franki_> yo mofo
[04:50] <anon32> vbgunz, it looks shady
[04:50] <vbgunz> anon32: its coming from harvard, thought I ask, seems new
[04:50] <anon32> specially this line "* Go beyond BitTorrent..."
[04:51] <vbgunz> I read most of the pages on there, I think i know what they mean
[04:51] <dangaio> yamal, Daisuke, thanks for the help. I have moved from total newbie to shamed newbie on the newbie scale.
[04:51] <anon32> vbgunz, dunno, if it's from Harvard it can't be that bad, why not try it on a test machine?
[04:51] <mimagyc> sorry what is the link for french support?
[04:51] <vbgunz> am going to look around
[04:52] <rignes> Anyone here use Cedega?
[04:52] <pag> mimagyc, #kubuntu-fr ?
[04:52] <mimagyc> thx
[04:52] <yamal> dangaio: don't be ashamed for asking :)
[04:52] <rignes> Actually, I should ask in #cedega first I think...
[04:53] <dangaio> oh, no. I am not ashamed. I am just harrassing myself. It might make me learn more. LOL.
[04:54] <shadowhywind> anon32 how would i switch on the fly once i have changed the xorg
[04:54] <anon32> shadowhywind, if it worked, there should be a screen resolution available that matches that of your primary dispaly
[04:54] <anon32> display*
[04:54] <anon32> choosing it will put your second one either to "off" or "clone"
[04:54] <dangaio> Ok, I am off to walk the dogs. They are looking at me like, if you don't take us out now... you will be cleaning up a lot of doo doo. LOL. take care everybody see ya' later.
[04:55] <funnelwe1> hello
[04:55] <SlimeyPete> hi
[04:56] <zgmf-x20a> hey guys, bit of an issue with laptop cd rom drive.  basially putting any type of cd in, data, audio cd, etc, kubuntu wont read it and allow me to access it.  i know the dive is fine b/c it works absolutely fine on the vista side of the dual boot.  any idea how i can fix this ????
[04:56] <neusonce> hit it?
[04:57] <zgmf-x20a> lol..... noooooo
[04:57] <neusonce> maybe it wants a bath, linux can feel dirty after operating next to vista
[04:57] <neusonce> idk
[04:58] <genii> zgmf-x20a: If your hd is sata but cd is ide OS may know sata controller but not not ide controller
[04:58] <zgmf-x20a> lol....  no thats not it, it has a whole 210 gb to bath in and vista only has 27 gb
[04:58] <genii> marvell chipset or so
[04:59] <zgmf-x20a> genii: well im not sue on that, it is a very recent laptop though, so i would assume sata.  it is the asus f3sv-a1
[04:59] <owl> holy shit! i guess my soundchip is dead!
[05:00] <genii> zgmf-x20a: Looking it up now for shipset
[05:00] <maverick_> how can i disable "knetworkmanager" asking for kwallet passsword everytime it tries to connect to wireless connection ?
[05:00] <zgmf-x20a> genii: awesome thanks!
[05:06] <pag> !best | maverick_
[05:06] <ubotu> maverick_: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:06] <SlimeyPete> maverick_: vlc, totem, amarok, beep, xmms, rhythmbox, mplayer, xine... try them all and take your pick ;)
[05:07] <maverick_> SlimeyPete: Just don't say AMAROK....
[05:07] <neusonce> !tor
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:08] <neusonce> !midgit
[05:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about midgit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <BluesKaj> amaroks!
[05:09] <BluesKaj> vlc is also vg
[05:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> and just what is wrong with amarok?
[05:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> not saying it's the best app ever (it is), just curious why you seem to despise it so
[05:11] <zgmf-x20a> genii: any luck??
[05:12] <genii> examining http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Asus_F3SV for some ideas. It has intel 965PM chipset
[05:13] <martijn81> *soon
[05:13] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Laptop, what makes you think i despise amarok ?
[05:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> not you :P
[05:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> maverick_
[05:14] <BluesKaj> good :)
[05:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> martijn81: ktorrent's already awesome :D
[05:14] <BluesKaj> amarok is best for streams
[05:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> amarok is awesome for music, period
[05:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> once you get rid of the terrible sqlite database
[05:15] <SlimeyPete> depends on your needs. It's a bit heavy for me.
[05:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> using mysql and it so much snappier now
[05:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> SlimeyPete: that makes sense
[05:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> personally, i've got a 40k+ song library...  i need its library features :D
[05:17] <zgmf-x20a> genii: yah i was looking thru tat right now, no help with the dvd rom though :(
[05:17] <BluesKaj> being old audio guy , playlists and paraphanalia stuff isn't my cuppa tea, i just click on the songs i want in my music folder ...gotta keep it simple
[05:17] <SlimeyPete> Daisuke_Laptop: I have a big library too but I don't listen all that often, and hen I do it's only to a single album (at most), so all the playlist features are unnecessary for me.
[05:17] <SlimeyPete> I just shove my music in folders ;)
[05:18] <genii> zgmf-x20a: On another site i saw someone could not install 6.10 or 7.04 on that laptop. Are you using gutsy?
[05:18] <Q-collective> Daisuke_Laptop: ofcourse those 40k songs are all legally aqcuired? ;)
[05:18] <BluesKaj> small library ... very few mp3s ..mostly lossless
[05:19] <genii> arg AFK a couple mins work
[05:20] <BluesKaj> bbl
[05:20] <elite101> hello
[05:21] <zgmf-x20a> nope, 7.04.  and 6.10 works as well.  i have already tried both on this laptop.  the problem with 6.10 though was the ethernet drivers were not available on the install. and installing the drivers afterwrads was a pain in the ass and didnt work.  then went too 7.04 and everything works excellent now, with net and all, but now have the dvd rom drive issue.  which is odd seeing as how the 7.04 cd installed off
[05:21] <zgmf-x20a> the very same drive
[05:21] <zgmf-x20a> genii: above there
[05:22] <elite101> i was thinking about getting a MINI atx board with 1.2Ghz and a pci slot/pcmia slot witch can be uesful maybe make a custom laptop?
[05:22] <bkudria> is there a list somewhere of differences between normal kdepim and kdepim enterprise?  i see favorite folders in kmail is one, is there anything else?
[05:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> Q-collective: i can actually answer yes to that question
[05:22] <elite101> 185$ for a MOBO with 1.2Ghz prossecor
[05:23] <elite101> althou i could just get a Gigabyte board :\
[05:23] <Q-collective> Daisuke_Laptop: hehe :)
[05:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> they're all self-ripped (or downloaded when i already own a physical copy).  from either my own or my fiancee's cd collection
[05:24] <elite101> yeah rite
[05:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> so i won't say i don't download music, but i don't download music i don't own.
[05:24] <Q-collective> :)
[05:24] <elite101> pfft
[05:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> elite101: just because you're a dirty pirate doesn't mean i am :D
[05:24] <elite101> LOL
[05:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> OH!  i take that back.
[05:24] <elite101> arhhh
[05:24] <Q-collective> In the Netherlands it's actually legal to download if you have a hardcopy
[05:24] <Q-collective> hehe
[05:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> i have downloaded stuff i don't own on cd
[05:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> from archive.org
[05:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> bootlegs ftw :)
[05:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> legal bootlegs, at that :D
[05:25] <elite101> lol so it is in canada lol :P home of the Bittorrents/copied DVDs/wifi piggybacking
[05:25] <elite101> ;) a website stops people from the USA to access it and its bittorents
[05:26] <genii> back
[05:26] <elite101> man dsl sucks :( i hate this distro
[05:26] <Q-collective> adsl2 is nice
[05:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> No manual entry for dsl
[05:26] <Q-collective> :-)
[05:26] <elite101> i have DSL3.4
[05:26] <zgmf-x20a> genii: did you read what i posted?
[05:26] <genii> zgmf-x20a: does it show as a device entry in /dev ? eg:sdb or hdb   etc
[05:26] <Q-collective> dsl 3.4?
[05:26] <elite101> yeah
[05:27] <genii> zgmf-x20a: Yes I read it
[05:27] <elite101> Knoppix
[05:27] <Q-collective> oh
[05:27] <elite101> unless ur talking about internet?
[05:27] <elite101> :S
[05:27] <Q-collective> damn small linux
[05:27] <Q-collective> lol
[05:27] <elite101> yeah
[05:27] <elite101> my HDD burnt out like its dead so im booting off the cd-rom
[05:27] <Q-collective> yeah, I was talking about adsl internet
[05:27] <Q-collective> lol
[05:27] <bkudria> is there a list somewhere of differences between normal kdepim and kdepim enterprise?  i see favorite folders in kmail is one, is there anything else?
[05:28] <elite101> lol thought so
[05:28] <comp10> alina
[05:28] <zgmf-x20a> genii: i dont think so, there is sda, sda1, sda2, sda3, sda4
[05:29] <comp10> pret
[05:30] <genii> zgmf-x20a: Yeah that would just be the partitions of hard drive then. Any scd0 device in there?
[05:35] <zgmf-x20a> genii: yup, your right there is no scd0 in that file
[05:35] <elite101> man IRC chat for DSL is ugly as hell :( its nIRC very weird
[05:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> nIRC?
[05:35] <genii> zgmf-x20a: OK. Thinking.
[05:35] <elite101> yeah
[05:35] <elite101> its like the DSL boot-up screen its multi coloured
[05:36] <elite101> its like talking in a multi coloured Konsole
[05:36] <shadowhywind> anon32 thanks for the link, a few testings, a few shortcuts. And everything is working exactly the way that i want it! Thanks!
[05:38] <elite101> lol It-crowd :) thats the greatest show in the world :)
[05:38] <elite101> not so much codemonkeys?
[05:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> now if i can just get svideo out working on jen's laptop i can watch anime on the tv in the living room.  finally got nfs shares working in windows :D
[05:43] <genii> zgmf-x20a: Is there hda device? (not sda)
[05:43] <elite101> mhm anyone have a MINI-ATX board?
[05:44] <anon32> gah... animu...
[05:44] <elite101> yes
[05:44] <elite101> anime=gay
[05:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> yes yes, you can keep your opinion to yourself, thanks.  i like what i like and i don't care if you don't :)
[05:44] <elite101> ouch?
[05:44] <zgmf-x20a> genii: nope, no hda
[05:44] <elite101> sure it is
[05:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> i watch real movies just as much.
[05:45] <elite101> why????!?!?
[05:45] <genii> bleh
[05:45] <anon32> meh, cartoons are for kids
[05:45] <elite101> yes
[05:45] <kubuntunewbie> can anyone help me get my mp3 player to read FLAC files?
[05:45] <elite101> lolz
[05:45] <elite101> ur mp3 player must support that
[05:45] <anon32> kubuntunewbie, hint: mp3 and FLAC are not the same thing
[05:45] <anon32> !u | elite101
[05:45] <ubotu> elite101: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[05:45] <elite101> what?
[05:46] <elite101> ahh ic
[05:46] <anon32> ..
[05:46] <elite101> "u" got me therre anon32
[05:46] <kubuntunewbie> anon32: no kidding, i know exactly what a flac file is.. the thing is that im new to linux and i have no idea how to download a decoder
[05:47] <anon32> kubuntunewbie, I know of 2 portable devices that can play FLAC. One is a hacked iPod and the other is a laptop.
[05:47] <anon32> you're going to have to encode to something your player can handle
[05:47] <anon32> elite101, if you can't be helpful, please leave
[05:47] <kubuntunewbie> anon32: i know of many computers that can play flac files.... thats all i want it for
[05:47] <elite101> i asked if the mp3 player even supports it? thats the first thing
[05:47] <kubuntunewbie> anon32: plus flac are totally lossless so they are great if you simply want to burn a CD with the files
[05:48] <anon32> kubuntunewbie, you just asked about an mp3 player...
[05:48] <elite101> exactly
[05:48] <kubuntunewbie> anon32: ahh, i was talking about amarok not a portable mp3 player
[05:48] <elite101> :S?
[05:48] <anon32> ah
[05:48] <anon32> you should be able to just open them with amarok shouldn't you?
[05:48] <anon32> maybe renaming them to .ogg helps
[05:48] <kubuntunewbie> anon32: the flacs wont play on amarok without a plugin/decoder
[05:48] <kubuntunewbie> anon32: duno, not working for me
[05:49] <martijn81> kubuntunewbie: you need libxine-extracodecs
[05:49] <Sanne> kubuntunewbie: there's a flac plugin package for xmms called xmms-flac, maybe there's one for amarok also
[05:49] <kubuntunewbie> NightBird: is it possible that is because flac files are so much larger then mp3 files?
[05:50] <anon32> kubuntunewbie, ah, looks like you want libxine1-ffmpeg
[05:50] <llutz> doesn't "libflac7" enable amarok to play flac?
[05:50] <anon32> kubuntunewbie, no, it's because nobody wants to support communist "open sores software"
[05:50] <gdiebel> Rockbox supports over 20 players and can play flac file on any of them
[05:50] <anon32> llutz, yeah, I was expecting that
[05:50] <NightBird> kubuntunewbie: no, it's battery sucks and probably need replaced
[05:50] <kubuntunewbie> anon32: when i am a suit i am going to support communist open source software
[05:51] <anon32> heh
[05:51] <NightBird> it has a 30 minute life span even when not playing music and just being on
[05:51] <mcdonaldj> lol
[05:51] <mcdonaldj> yeah im at work just got a new laptop
[05:53] <anon32> kubuntunewbie, FLAC plays here (I have the ffmpeg codecs)
[05:53] <mrksbrd> genii, u there?????????
[05:54] <anon32> heh, "bitrate: 700"
[05:55] <kubuntunewbie> anon32: thanks a bunch, that worked great
[05:55] <mrksbrd> when using remote desktop connection, why would "connect" be grayed out after entering ip address???
[05:56] <anon32> yeah, not sure why that's not out of the box
[05:56] <ivan_> salut re:
[05:56] <kubuntunewbie> yeah does not make much sense
[05:56] <kubuntunewbie> but oh well, was an easy install
[05:57] <kubuntunewbie> welp, i gotta find my damn cell phone, takes it easy peepz
[05:57] <ivan_> est-ce qu'il y a des gens qui parlent le franais ici?
[05:58] <stdin> !fr
[05:58] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:00] <drif> mrksbrd: you need to add port - like ip.ip.ip.ip:5900
[06:00] <Hirvinen> !english | Aranel
[06:00] <ubotu> Aranel: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[06:01] <StevenR> Hi. I'm trying to play a dvd with kubuntu 7.04... xine just crashes when I click the dvd button... kaffeine plays the sound, but the picture is just a blue rectangle.... how do I debug/fix this?
[06:01] <drif> StevenR: not quite a solution - but I'd suggest installing vlc
[06:01] <mrksbrd> oh ok
[06:02] <coreymon77> Jucato: you there?
[06:04] <drif> StevenR: also installing 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras' might help
[06:07] <miles> !find jedit
[06:07] <ubotu> Package/file jedit does not exist in feisty
[06:10] <sito> who can i know the last packages what i 'm installed
[06:12] <StevenR> drif: vlc also crashes
[06:15] <genii> back
[06:16] <genii> My boss' entire family seems to be here today, it appears I've been elected to entertain them...
[06:19] <_Shade_> hi there
[06:20] <_Shade_> I'm using the e-uae amiga emulator to play with it a bit. Does anyone know some website where i can download some adf stuff?
[06:21] <genii> zgmf-x20a: Please pastebin results of the command:   lspci -v
[06:25] <genii> !ping
[06:25] <ubotu> pong
[06:25] <genii> Ok not ghosting :)
[06:26] <Mr_Sonoma> this may be a little off topic but anyone have any experiance with machspeed motherboards? are they good/bad or indifferant?
[06:30] <funnelweb> hi
[06:30] <pag> hello funnelweb :)
[06:34] <paxo__> hola!
[06:34] <paxo__> ??
[06:34] <paxo> ...
[06:36] <g-hennux> hi!
[06:37] <g-hennux> is it correct that if i install the 64bit-version of kubuntu on an amd64 computer, i won't have certain third-party-binary software, like flash, w32codecs etc., right?
[06:37] <pag> yup. that's correct.
[06:37] <g-hennux> but i can still install the 32bit-version and have all of them, right?
[06:38] <pag> So did I do, and all works fine
[06:39] <g-hennux> and then, do i still get any advantages from the 64 bit thingy? well, other way around, are there massive problems when running 32bit linux on amd64?
[06:40] <jhutchins> g-hennux: There's a way to get the 32b ones to work on 64b, although I don't knwo the details.
[06:40] <zipper> doesnt it "just works" - just not performing optimal?
[06:40] <zipper> and ofcourse with the 3gb ram limit
[06:40] <jhutchins> g-hennux: 32b runs great on 64b hardware, and unless you know of a reason you need 64b capabilities, you won't notice the difference.
[06:40] <Sanne> g-hennux: you can also use 64 bit kubuntu and run 32bit only programs in compatibility mode, though some things may involve a bit of manual work.
[06:40] <zipper> just guessing here btw
[06:41] <g-hennux> well, the system is intended for my grandma, so probably no way to get her to do some "compatibilty mode" thingies :-)
[06:41] <g-hennux> ok, thanks for your answers!
[06:42] <Sanne> g-hennux: then better install 23bit :)
[06:42] <Sanne> 32 even
[06:42] <g-hennux> Sanne: ah, you're saying the less bits the easier to handle? :-)))
[06:42] <Sanne> g-hennux: haha! :)
[06:44] <DaleksUnited> random question - kubuntu cant see my PCI sound card - any suggestions?
[06:45] <jose> ayuda please
[06:46] <mankeletor> jose: what's your problem?
[06:46] <mankeletor> recien entro al channel y no vi si lo escribiste antes
[06:46] <mankeletor> :P
[06:46] <jose> cuando inicio sesion con kubuntu, se cuelga la makina
[06:46] <jose> nose xq =S
[06:47] <mankeletor> kernel panic?
[06:47] <mankeletor> te sale kernel panic?
[06:47] <jose> no sale nada,se abre la ventana del kopete y se cuelga
[06:49] <jose> y nose xq se cuelga ps tengo q estar reiniciandola
[06:49] <d0uglas> hey now.. any way to join a bluetooth personal area network or is that an ms thing
[06:50] <funnelweb> anybody who goes to school?
[06:50] <DaleksUnited> funnelweb?
[06:51] <funnelweb> anybody who learn or learned german?
[06:51] <zipper> funnelweb, i did. I also learned english.
[06:51] <zipper> and when i did learn english, i discarded my german skills =P
[06:51] <funnelweb> DaleksUnited: you will know my reason later
[06:52] <Feudster> Hello all
[06:52] <Feudster> Would someone be kind enough to explain what an x shell is
[06:52] <DaleksUnited> funnelweb: I have german to GCSE level, if that means anything to you
[06:53] <DaleksUnited> 5 year course
[06:53] <funnelweb> zipper: did you learn it as a mother tongue?
[06:53] <pag> !offtopic
[06:53] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:54] <g-hennux> Feudster: this is a terminal which runs under the x server, i.e. no virtual terminal (like what you get with ctrl+alt+f1), but rather something like xterm, konsole etc.
[06:54] <llutz> Feudster: x-shell? something like a terminal-emulation (xterm, rxvt), which gives you a shell in X?
[06:54] <zipper> funnelweb, no. My mother tongue is danish.
[06:54] <funnelweb> i only wanted to suggest to correct his german, and otherwise he correct my english
[06:55] <funnelweb> because that would be a good training for both, i think
[06:55] <Feudster> ok i am new to ubuntu and linux! i have a small app called gmail notify! i have downloaded the file and need to open an x shell to start install
[06:55] <Feudster> how do i open
[06:55] <llutz> Feudster: press alt-f2 and enter "konsole" without quotes
[06:56] <Feudster> thankyou kindly
[06:56] <Feudster> Could not open location 'file:///konsole'
[06:56] <llutz> Feudster: not in konqueror, "alt+f2"
[06:57] <funnelweb> ok, i see, there is no need
[06:57] <funnelweb> bye
[06:57] <Feudster> that is what i did
[06:57] <Feudster> same result each time
[06:58] <DaleksUnited> feudster - click the blue 'K' in the bottom left, >system>Konsole
[06:58] <Sanne> Feudster: gmail-notify is in the ubuntu repositories
[06:58] <Feudster> i dont have a blue k at the bottom
[06:59] <g-hennux> Feudster: are you using gnome?
[06:59] <Feudster> i have just installed latest ubuntu
[06:59] <g-hennux> Feudster: ah, so not *k*ubuntu?
[06:59] <Feudster> whats that?
[06:59] <g-hennux> Feudster: ah, ok :-) wait a sec
[06:59] <llutz> Feudster: this is Kubuntu :) KDE, not ugly-gnome
[07:00] <Feudster> oh
[07:00] <Feudster> whats the difference?
[07:00] <g-hennux> Feudster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-a53a91acd9a5b9d2e1667c8c0c05ba469c943ce6
[07:00] <llutz> Feudster: ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses KDE by default
[07:00] <Sanne> Feudster: enable the universe repository, search for gmail-notify in synaptic package manager, and install it from there.
[07:00] <g-hennux> Feudster: anyway, if you are using plain ubuntu, try asking in #ubuntu instead
[07:01] <Feudster> thx my fault i had no idea
[07:01] <Feudster> will do
[07:01] <Sanne> Feudster: and this will help you understand how to install software: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement
[07:01] <Feudster> thankyou
[07:01] <Sanne> :)
[07:02] <jose> se cuelga mi makina csm
[07:05] <Feudster> One last question if i may, Is it just asthetics that are different between kbuntu and ubuntu? or does kbuntu offer more
[07:05] <llutz> Feudster: it's a completely different desktop-environment in use. it has pros and cons, hard to explain
[07:06] <Feudster> ok i will have to do some reading up i see
[07:06] <llutz> Feudster: Gnome is called to be easier to handle for users. KDE offers more options
[07:06] <TonserPerson> hey...linux noob here :P is it easy to install beryl and AIGLX on kubuntu?
[07:07] <Feudster> thanks ill stick with ubuntu till i feel more confident with linux, once again thx for the help  bye
[07:07] <Sanne> Feudster: they only differ in the desktop environment, GNOME for ubuntu, KDE for Kubuntu. Gnome tends to be more streamlined and easier to use for beginners, KDE offers more config options but may overwhelm new users. Mostly it's a matter of taste. You can install both on the same system and switch between both at login.
[07:12] <imagine[laptop] > anyone tried to run firebug with Firefox ?
[07:12] <imagine[laptop] > I can't installit
[07:13] <FireCrotc1> imagine[laptop] : firebug works for me
[07:14] <imagine[laptop] > weird
[07:17] <funnelweb> z1pp3r:
[07:18] <z1pp3r> ye?
[07:21] <voln> Alt-F2 - what's name of comand? kpcontrol?
[07:22] <funnelweb> z1pp3r: jabber?
[07:22] <toxic316> hay any one got an idea of how to get ntfs working
[07:22] <g-hennux> toxic316: in what way, working?
[07:22] <funnelweb> i think there is a programm
[07:23] <g-hennux> toxic316: apt-cache search ntfs?
[07:23] <llutz> voln: "kfmclient exec <cmd>" i guess
[07:23] <llutz> !ntfs-3g | toxic316
[07:23] <ubotu> toxic316: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:24] <toxic316> its an external which i cant acess but auto play still works
[07:24] <g-hennux> toxic316: does access mean read or write?
[07:24] <toxic316> both i cant read the files on it or write files to it
[07:24] <g-hennux> try the fuse tools, i.e. apt-cache search fuse ntfs
[07:25] <voln> llutz no, I need system configuration, press Alt-F2, then command
[07:25] <llutz> voln: kcontrol
[07:25] <toxic316> so what command in terminal
[07:25] <voln> llutz thanks
[07:25] <g-hennux> i think there are two different ways to handle ntfs, one is with ntfs support in the kernel, then you have to give parameters like uid=... when mounting as root, the other is AFAIK via fuse, where you can mount as user, which should solve the problem
[07:25] <toxic316> how do i get fuse then
[07:26] <g-hennux> open a console and enter "apt-cache search fuse", which will show a list of packages
[07:26] <g-hennux> toxic316: i'm actually not on kubuntu, so i cannot really tell you package names etc
[07:26] <toxic316> ok
[07:27] <toxic316> it just says invaild operation install
[07:27] <g-hennux> apt-cache search XXX -> apt-get install XXX
[07:28] <baschdel> hi all
[07:28] <z1pp3r> funnelweb, no... i mean, i know i should be using jabber, but what can i do? All my non-geek friends uses msn so i cant be bothered
[07:28] <toxic316> is it fuse-utils
[07:28] <baschdel> can someone test this links pls?
[07:28] <baschdel>  /ubuntu/pool/main/w/wireshark/wireshark_0.99.2-5ubuntu1_i386.deb
[07:29] <baschdel> just check alive
[07:29] <funnelweb> than use msn
[07:29] <funnelweb> i have it too
[07:29] <z1pp3r> priv
[07:29] <baschdel> someone checked it?
[07:29] <baschdel> :)
[07:29] <g-hennux> baschdel: which "link"?
[07:30] <baschdel>  /ubuntu/pool/main/w/wireshark/wireshark_0.99.2-5ubuntu1_i386.deb
[07:30] <baschdel> did you get it?
[07:30] <g-hennux> baschdel: that's a path; if you want us to check anything, you should give us a url
[07:30] <baschdel> oh damn it sry
[07:31] <ymsg> hey
[07:31] <g-hennux> baschdel: ftp://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/w/wireshark is empty
[07:31] <ymsg> french room pls
[07:31] <llutz> !fr
[07:31] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:31] <baschdel>  http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/w/wireshark/wireshark_0.99.2-5ubuntu1_i386.deb
[07:31] <ymsg> ty
[07:32] <tim> I'm showing empty on the link
[07:33] <baschdel> hmm
[07:36] <g-hennux> has ubuntu removed wireshark from their repos? :-)
[07:37] <g-hennux> baschdel: i believe this has something to do with wireshark being in universe, not main
[07:37] <llutz> g-hennux: installs fine here from de.archive.ubuntu.com (universe)
[07:37] <g-hennux> baschdel: use http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wireshark/
[07:38] <llutz> baschdel:  http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wireshark/
[07:38] <g-hennux> llutz: or nl, if you prefer :-)
[07:38] <phoenixz> Hi there! I need to install GTK-dev, but I cant find that package in the repo list..
[07:38] <llutz> g-hennux: not me, baschdel gave nl-link
[07:39] <g-hennux> llutz: ok, i see
[07:40] <llutz> anyway, it's still in universe (forbidden to use in .de now)
[07:41] <toxic316> yea the fuse thing didnt work
[07:42] <g-hennux> llutz: ah, is it now?
[07:42] <toxic316> any one else got any ideas for like ntfs or fat 32 hdds beign reconised
[07:42] <llutz> g-hennux: "Hackerparagraf" durchgewunken, Sicherheit ade </OT>
[07:43] <g-hennux> llutz: phew, now we are finally safe, after all :-)
[07:44] <toxic316> can any one tell me how to put the ntfs module on in kenral
[07:44] <Mr_Sonoma> g-hennux, i would say no, apt-cache search wireshark just returned 8 hits on my fiesty system
[07:44] <phoenixz> What repo do I need to be able to install the GTK dev package?
[07:44] <g-hennux> Mr_Sonoma: yeah, i didn'T say it isn't there, just discovered it's on universe, not in main
[07:45] <Mr_Sonoma> =)
[07:46] <g-hennux> toxic316: do you have the command ntfsmount?
[07:47] <toxic316> not sure
[07:47] <TonserPerson> hmmm im having trouble installing kubuntu...its giving me a hard time when i try to run the install
[07:47] <g-hennux> toxic316: open a shell, say "ntfsmount" and see what is returned
[07:47] <g-hennux> TonserPerson: "hard time"?
[07:47] <TonserPerson> right after *starting bluetooth services
[07:47] <toxic316> dont have program install
[07:48] <g-hennux> toxic316: ok, so you plug in your drive and a window opens in konqueror?
[07:48] <toxic316> yea its the auto run one
[07:48] <g-hennux> open a shell, say "mount" and paste the line that contains the ntfs device
[07:48] <toxic316> where you choose options i choose to open it in konquer and it does nothign
[07:49] <toxic316> is there a gui for fuse
[07:49] <g-hennux> toxic316: open a shell, say "mount" and paste the line that contains the ntfs device
[07:50] <TonserPerson> i get "bcm43xx:Error:microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw not available or load failed"
[07:50] <toxic316> tim@tim-laptop:~$ mount
[07:50] <toxic316> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[07:50] <francois> hey, my kwallet keeps asking me for a password requested by dcopserver, what is this used for ? and does anyone know why its asking for a password ?
[07:50] <toxic316> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[07:50] <toxic316> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[07:50] <g-hennux> toxic316: only the line with ntfs
[07:50] <toxic316> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[07:50] <kewl_> i m having installation problem....
[07:50] <toxic316> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[07:50] <jason__10> Laptop Fans, Talk to me...  I Have a fan  thats supposed to blow out the bottom of my laptop, but it is never on, my temperature is generall 55 degrees. Any ideas on how to turn it on?
[07:50] <toxic316> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[07:50] <toxic316> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[07:50] <toxic316> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[07:50] <toxic316> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[07:50] <toxic316> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[07:50] <toxic316> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
[07:50] <TonserPerson> kewl__welcome to the club
[07:51] <g-hennux> what exactly has killed toxic? :-)
[07:51] <phoenixz> jason__10, AFAIK, 55 degree is very ok.. a laptop fan only makes noise and is not needed at such temps..
[07:51] <kewl_> actually its saying no harddisk found for installation
[07:52] <gekko_> i'm trying to install gutsy but the installer doesnt detect my partition table (my other partitions) if i choose manual partitioning. does anyone know a solution?
[07:52] <g-hennux> kewl_: serial ata?
[07:52] <jason__10> phoenix thanks mate, its just inm starting to get dark patches on my silver laptop that wont wip off... i thought it was because of heat
[07:53] <phoenixz> Maybe somebody over here could tell me how I can install GTK dev package? I cant find it in adept manager
[07:53] <g-hennux> phoenixz: "apt-cache search gtk dev" returns what?
[07:54] <llutz> phoenixz: libgtk2.0-dev
[07:54] <phoenixz> jason__10, 55 degrees really is np.. My P4 proc is 55 degrees a few seconds after starting up.. when busy, it can easily go >75 degrees.. as long as you stay.. say, under 70, you ought to be ok
[07:54] <kewl_> g-hennux: yes SATA
[07:54] <Xplicit> how do i find out the adress of a phone i connect by bluetooth
[07:54] <jason__10> phoenix thats cool, maybe it only comes on when it needs to
[07:54] <phoenixz> g-hennux, llutz, thanks lluts! That was the one, I was looking for just plain gtk-dev..
[07:55] <jason__10> phoenix I just cant hear any fan, ever
[07:55] <kewl_> actually i hav encountered same problem in my frnds comp.. which is bit ancient one....& in my HP laptop..which is latest both have sata
[07:56] <phoenixz> jason__10, Just keep a good eye on the temp.. if it stays 55, then I'd be happy that you don't need a fan.. fan = irritating noise
[07:56] <g-hennux> kewl_: then this is maybe the problem? i know this is not an easy issue, sometimes not even with windows
[07:56] <phoenixz> jason__10, and you can use nick comlpetion, which will make it phoenixz, not phoenix :)
[07:56] <jason__10> 65 is max ive seen
[07:56] <jason__10> lol
[07:56] <jason__10> then I would have to type it thanks to Phillip5
[07:57] <jason__10> no sorry
[07:57] <jason__10> I just have to type a Z
[07:57] <jason__10> LOL
[07:57] <phoenixz> jason__10, que? I don't understand ya :)
[07:57] <kewl_> g-hennux: yes i tried to install ubuntu ,, suse,,,fedora but result ws same
[07:57] <ryanparsons> can anyone help me with networking??
[07:57] <g-hennux> kewl_: try to have a look at what is needed for sata, maybe you need to do modprobe somemodule before you start the isntaller
[07:58] <tarntow> i installed realplay but cannot run the program at all? thanx
[07:58] <ryanparsons> hellooo
[07:59] <jason__10> phoenixz sorry their is a guy called Phoenix_ in here also so I was just going for the first name to complete
[07:59] <phoenixz> jason__10, np
[07:59] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: just tell about your problem
[07:59] <kewl_> g-hennux: well roghly what about this error is??
[07:59] <phoenixz> ryanakca, whaat zeemz tobe thie probleeem?
[07:59] <ryanparsons> ubuntu server lts behind firewall can ping local subnet but not external subnet
[08:00] <g-hennux> kewl_: sorry?
[08:00] <jhutchins> ryanparsons: set gateway
[08:00] <ryanparsons> oter machines behind firewall can ping out
[08:00] <ryanparsons> have done
[08:00] <ryanparsons> can ping gateway too
[08:00] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: traceroute out and see where it stops
[08:00] <phoenixz> ryanakca, what g-hennux says..
[08:00] <ryanparsons> traceroute not installed
[08:00] <dranas> good morning everyone
[08:01] <phoenixz> ryanparsons, could you install it?
[08:01] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: ok, so what is the message when pinging <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:01] <kewl_> g-hennux: i mean is there anything wrong with harddisk??
[08:01] <ryanparsons> ill hunt it down, best use a .deb package?
[08:01] <phoenixz> dranas, mornin
[08:01] <phoenixz> dranas, actually, afternoon
[08:01] <g-hennux> kewl_: i believe it's just linux kernel && sata
[08:01] <phoenixz> ryanparsons, Id use apt-get...
[08:02] <g-hennux> kewl_: no experience, sorry
[08:02] <kewl_> g-hennux: ok thnx...for this much :)
[08:02] <ryanparsons> PING <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[08:02] <ryanparsons> --- <IP_ADDRESS> ping statistics ---
[08:02] <ryanparsons> 6 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 5004ms
[08:02] <dranas> i have to painstakingly upgrade from dapper again
[08:03] <arash_> Hi, anyone found any 'easy way' to fix your sound drivers?
[08:03] <ryanparsons> all other machines behind firewall can ping out
[08:03] <ryanparsons> dns is resolving properly
[08:03] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: what kind of firewall? you can ping the firewall itself from your machine?
[08:03] <ryanparsons> yes i can
[08:03] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: what have you set as dns server?
[08:03] <ryanparsons> gateway and isp dns
[08:04] <ryanparsons> dns is resolving fine
[08:04] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: i cannot belive the gateway is set correctly
[08:04] <dranas> easy way = dont have sound    lol
[08:04] <ryanparsons> ping www.google.com
[08:04] <ryanparsons> PING www.l.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[08:04] <ryanparsons> --- www.l.google.com ping statistics ---
[08:04] <ryanparsons> 2 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 1007ms
[08:04] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: dns resolving works because the firewall acts as dns server
[08:04] <tim> heya, when I start adept, it says another ap is using the packaging system
[08:05] <g-hennux> toxic316: what's going on with you? :-)
[08:05] <ryanparsons> Ive tried both static and dhcp no diff
[08:05] <dranas> try closing the updater
[08:05] <ryanparsons> with gw correct
[08:05] <tim> if one is, how do I find it? nothing on "top" and nothing running I know of
[08:05] <dranas> look in the performance manager
[08:05] <tim> the updater says so to btw
[08:05] <dranas> performance monitor sorry
[08:05] <dranas> and look for adept
[08:05] <toxic316> you got terminal or the updater on as well
[08:06] <arash_> dranas - hahaha, you don't know any program that download the drivers for you? since usually there are some programs fixing those things instantly for you, but you always find them 5 hours after dealing with slow manuals...
[08:06] <dranas> i think it depends on your sound equipment
[08:06] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: does your router/firewall decide on some thingy whether to route or not?
[08:07] <ryanparsons> sorry dont understand
[08:07] <tim> nope, nothing showing. how does file lock work?
[08:07] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: is this a normal router that routes anything plugged in via lan?
[08:07] <ryanparsons> all other machines behind firewall connect fine
[08:07] <mankeletor> hey guys, what's the default mount script in kubuntu?
[08:07] <ryanparsons> yes basically
[08:08] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: or is this something advanced like: "forward only ports 1-4 and not port 5"?
[08:08] <mankeletor> it's /etc/init.d/mountall.sh?
[08:08] <thehcdreamer> have any of you notice that Amule interface crash and never start properly? or am i the only unlucking here?
[08:08] <toxic316> how do i modify fstab
[08:08] <dranas> arash_ you can try going to the sound system configuration and go to the hardware tab and select auto detect
[08:08] <llutz> toxic316: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[08:08] <g-hennux> toxic316: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[08:08] <g-hennux> llutz: damn, too slow :-)
[08:09] <ryanparsons> I have the avanced outbound NAT disabled so yes it does route automatically
[08:09] <toxic316> how do i make it so mounting a hdd can be for normal users
[08:10] <genii> use option user
[08:10] <toxic316> i dont know how
[08:10] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: maaaaan, this drives me crazy :-)
[08:10] <_Blue2_> hey do you prefer any programs for to use php at local machine .. i mean something like easy php ?
[08:10] <ryanparsons> youre not the only one
[08:11] <ryanparsons> im busy trying to get traceroute onto the machine
[08:11] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: ok, step by step. only one network interface on that computer?
[08:11] <arash_> dranas, I can only partially hear sound,  Amarok sounds, but not some of my 'legally bought' series.., vlc don't make sound, and all other media players never starts up, I really think it
[08:11] <g-hennux> eth0?
[08:11] <ryanparsons> yes eth0
[08:11] <genii> on the line for the one you want to mount is something like rw,auto    or so. just before the two zeros. Put a comma afer the last word there and add users between the comma and the first zero. Don't let the zero come down to the next line
[08:11] <dranas> oh hmmm sounds like a driver issue
[08:11] <dranas> hold on a sec
[08:12] <genii> *user only, not plural
[08:12] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: say dhclient eth0, then tell me the ip and gateway that ifconfig eth0 reports
[08:12] <toxic316> genii how do i get there thoguh
[08:13] <_Blue2_> do you know any  programs like easyphp ? for to use php on my localmachine ???
[08:13] <toxic316> im just staring at terminal and dont know how to get there
[08:13] <genii> toxic316: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[08:13] <ryanparsons> Listening on LPF/eth0/00:11:85:c2:30:02
[08:13] <ryanparsons> Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:11:85:c2:30:02
[08:13] <ryanparsons> Sending on   Socket/fallback
[08:13] <ryanparsons> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67 interval 7
[08:13] <ryanparsons> DHCPOFFER from <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:13] <ryanparsons> DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67
[08:13] <ryanparsons> DHCPACK from <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:13] <toxic316> ok i do that then what
[08:13] <ryanparsons> bound to <IP_ADDRESS> -- renewal in 39090 seconds.
[08:13] <arash_> !paste |ryanparsons
[08:13] <ubotu> ryanparsons: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:14] <genii> toxic316: Which drive is it you wish regular users to be able to mount? go to the line for it.
[08:14] <dranas> arash_ did you install the ugly codec pack?
[08:14] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: ifconfig eth0?
[08:15] <arash_> dranas . ugly ? is it's 'real' name?, No, i dont remember doing that... But i know Sound have worked fine some sessions before, and Kmix has been acting really strange too
[08:15] <genii> toxic316: Then put cursor after last existing option. this is whatever the last word is before the two zeros which are there. add a comma then put user    then exit with ctrl-x saving the file when asked
[08:15] <dranas> search google for it
[08:15] <dranas> it is ugly
[08:15] <arash_> dranas, ok tanks
[08:15] <ryanparsons>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35575/
[08:15] <dranas> im upgrading right now so my web browser isnt working
[08:16] <genii> Bah
[08:16] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: route -n
[08:17] <arash_> dranas ok thanks , is it really called ugly :? I try check ubotu first
[08:17] <greenday> hey . can someone plz help ? .. how can i use php on localmachine ?..
[08:17] <dranas> yes, like check for "adding mp3 support in amarok" and itll tell you the name of it
[08:17] <dranas> i know there are serveral different packs
[08:17] <ryanparsons> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35576/
[08:17] <llutz> greenday: install php5-cli
[08:18] <dranas> and the one with all the good ones is called ugly
[08:18] <greenday> llutz: is there any other ??
[08:18] <dranas> something ugly, look it up in amarok
[08:18] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: and ping google.com still does not work?
[08:19] <ryanparsons> nope
[08:19] <arash_> dranas , ahh!!!!!!!!!! FOund it, it might not be due to drivers
[08:20] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: think i got it
[08:20] <ryanparsons> awesome dude
[08:20] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: you wrote: "DHCPOFFER from <IP_ADDRESS>", then why is your gateway <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:20] <ryanparsons> youre a genius if you have
[08:20] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[08:21] <ryanparsons> ahh ok the dhcp is offered from a server not the gateway
[08:21] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: so is this correct or what? should not the router be the dhcp server, too?
[08:21] <g-hennux> hi tackat
[08:22] <ryanparsons> no that is correct the way it is
[08:22] <arash_> It actually seems that only one program can use sound at one time due to (ALSA) ... I actually paused amarok and then started a video, then it worked....... Is this Linux sound system really that terrible?
[08:22] <ryanparsons> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35577/
[08:22] <tackat> g-hennux: hi Tobias
[08:22] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: ok, so your dhcp server and your dns server are different than your gateway?
[08:22] <ryanparsons> yes
[08:23] <g-hennux> wtf?
[08:23] <ryanparsons> dhcp is being offered from windoze server
[08:23] <ryanparsons> gateway is firewall
[08:23] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: and all other machines also use <IP_ADDRESS> as gw?
[08:24] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: and no other machine has the same ip?
[08:24] <ryanparsons> yes
[08:24] <ryanparsons> nope
[08:24] <BluesKaj> arash_, when your alsamixer and kmix controls are setup ...you can hear several diff sources at once , if that's your preference
[08:24] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:25] <ryanparsons> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35578/
[08:25] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: get traceroute :-)
[08:25] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: i'll bet the error is on the gateway
[08:25] <arash_> BluesKaj, hmmm what you mean 'setup' ?
[08:25] <g-hennux> ryanparsons: i'm afk for some minutes
[08:26] <ryanparsons> ok
[08:26] <greenday> hey . can someone plz help ? .. how can i use php on localmachine ?..
[08:27] <ryanparsons> dont understand if the gateway is the prob, why are the other machine on network ok?????
[08:27] <arash_> !php
[08:27] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:27] <arash_> check that greenday, did u check that?
[08:28] <ryanparsons_> .
[08:29] <BluesKaj> arash_, have you checked 'alsamixer' in the konsole to unmute the ctrls that you need ?
[08:29] <arash_> hmm, I have a look BluesKaj, thanks
[08:29] <greenday> arash_: thanxx
[08:29] <greenday> arash_: i ll check it now. .
[08:29] <max>
[08:30] <arash_> !russia
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about russia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <genii> russian or greek, I wonder
[08:30] <arash_> !russian
[08:30] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:30] <yamal> !ru | max
[08:30] <ubotu> max: please see above
[08:30] <max> ok
[08:30] <max> thanks
[08:31] <arash_> no problem :)
[08:31] <genii> Interesting pipe behaviour now from ubotu
[08:31] <max> may i answer you about problem NVidia drivers?
[08:31] <genii> He's getting smarter or something
[08:32] <arash_> max, you have solution or problem with NVidia drivers?
[08:32] <max> i have problem
[08:32] <max> problem is:
[08:33] <max> when i pres ALT+CTRL+F2 i dont see any more
[08:34] <max> i dont catch the bash
[08:34] <max> i can't login when i pres this key
[08:34] <max> why???
[08:35] <Luismi> then CTRL-ALT-F3
[08:35] <Luismi> F4
[08:35] <Luismi> F5
[08:35] <Luismi> F6
[08:35] <greenday> !turkish
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about turkish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <Luismi> F7
[08:35] <judgen> whoop dee doo
[08:35] <arash_> hmm, if pressing alt+ctrl+f2 , Im no expert, but is it needed really?
[08:36] <max> but in other distribution i can do it, for example
[08:38] <max> and when i halt my system, my monitor "going for sleep"
[08:38] <runlevelten> You forgot F8, F9 and F10 by the way.
[08:38] <runlevelten> :P
[08:39] <max> my english is to bad, but i now what i i whont to tell yoy
[08:40] <ryanparsons_> g-hennux you were right, it was the gateway
[08:40] <max> may is to deficult for me, may be in russian server people help me
[08:40] <max> bye
[08:40] <ryanparsons_> thx man you rool
[08:42] <g-hennux> ryanparsons_: thanks, but what exactly?
[08:42] <ryanparsons_> there was a 1:1 NAT setting enabled on the gateway
[08:43] <g-hennux> ryanparsons_: ok... man, that was a weird thing anyway... :-)
[08:43] <ryanparsons_> yea had me going for 3 days now
[08:43] <ryanparsons_> doh
[08:43] <g-hennux> ryanparsons_: !!! :-)
[08:43] <arash> max ,yea I use Nvidia too, and all went black after for no reason pressing alt+ctrl+f2, but why rpress it?
[08:43] <ryanparsons_> yea
[08:44] <Door> hello
[08:45] <arash> Hi Door!
[08:45] <Door> i am new here, i dont know if there is another Door here...
[08:46] <arash> Nope, I never seen any Door before ;), just welcoming you
[08:46] <FireCrotc1> I'm using Compiz Fusion and I'm having issues with window focus that I can't figure out.  windows are gaining focus when I mouseover them, which I don't want to hapen
[08:46] <Door> i have a question
[08:46] <Door> where i can find a guide to activate direct rendering on kubuntu 7.04 and i915 / i810?
[08:46] <FireCrotc1> the windows aren't coming to the top though, the only way I can get a window to the top is to click the titlebar
[08:46] <arash> !rendering
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rendering - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <BluesKaj> !intel
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <arash> Sorry, I cant help you then Door :(, I bet someone else can tough
[08:47] <Door> i know intel....
[08:48] <Door> and ati....
[08:48] <BluesKaj> Door , intel graphics ?
[08:48] <Door> yes....
[08:48] <BluesKaj> or ati graphics ?
[08:48] <Door> i ddnt choose to put intel graphics into my laptop
[08:48] <Door> is an intel
[08:49] <BluesKaj> !graphics
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <Door> works correctly under gentoo and sabayon but under kubuntu i cant activate it
[08:50] <BluesKaj> strange there's help for ATI and nVidia , but not intel
[08:50] <TonserPerson> hey...
[08:50] <TonserPerson> does anyone know how to avoid this error while loading install?
[08:50] <TonserPerson> i get "bcm43xx:Error:microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw not available or load failed"
[08:51] <Door> i dont know how edit the kernel, i always used make menuconfig
[08:51] <Door> but under kubuntu doesnt works...
[08:52] <BluesKaj> Door, sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[08:52] <TonserPerson> hmmm
[08:53] <Door> i have i915resolution
[08:55] <llutz> Door: have you tried xserver-xorg-video-intel
[08:56] <BluesKaj> Door, check this article , it might help ,http://www.osnews.com/story.php/17505/Ubuntu-Feisty-Fawn-Desktop-Linux-Matured/
[08:59] <Door> xserver-xorg-video-intel...??
[08:59] <Door> never heard about it
[09:00] <helmut_> keyboard without num-block
[09:06] <Angelus> where are the KDE Headers installed in kubuntu?
[09:06] <jacopo> any one know why my kubuntu, very very often, dont connect to the wireless internet and I must reboot a lot of time before that it work?
[09:07] <helmut_> jacopo: there is less wireless integration into linix
[09:08] <jacopo> ok  thanks
[09:10] <nodesert> i have file system error on my Harddisk can i fix this?
[09:11] <helmut_> jacopo: do you use ndis-wrapper
[09:12] <llutz> nodesert: umount partition, run fsck
[09:12] <jacopo> no, I have a broadkom bcm43xx so i use the "bcm43xx-fwcutter" to obtain the driver
[09:12] <ELMANIFICO> pls send me link to juventus irc chanel pls
[09:12] <Angelus> where are the KDE Headers installed in kubuntu?
[09:13] <nodesert> llutz:then everything will be ok?
[09:13] <nodesert> llutz:cuz it is my root disk
[09:13] <llutz> nodesert: use live-cd
[09:15] <nodesert> ok thanks
[09:15] <helmut_> i haven't found any card with correct working driver. so i use ndis-wrapper with windows drivers and a shell script to activate the connection
[09:17] <jacopo> well, so now i try to use the ndis-wrapper and I hope that it work!
[09:17] <jacopo> thanks!
[09:21] <susan> Just a quick question, I had to reinstall micro(nice word for dump) w2k due to Kubuntu gave me grief with regards to the updater & add/remove programs kepts saying it was in use, even though I restarted my pc 3 times then also tried to 'kill/flush' the adept installer. Is there a bug with  sudo or adept with regards to kubuntu?
[09:22] <dwidmann> !adeptfix | susan
[09:22] <ubotu> susan: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:23] <mbdhboi> dwidmann did that yet it did nothing, strange thing is the lock file was 0bytes 'empty'.
[09:24] <dwidmann> interesting, what effect would rming the file have then?
[09:24] <markelhas> hi ppl
[09:24] <dwidmann> hiya
[09:24] <markelhas> i'm with a livecd in this momment
[09:24] <FireCrotc1> don't forget to say hi to the bots, markelhas :)
[09:25] <markelhas> an:)
[09:25] <mbdhboi> dwidmann that sounds like spanish to me when I don't speak spanish, no idea sorry.
[09:25] <markelhas> hi every one :P
[09:25] <baschdel> ahoi
[09:25] <mbdhboi> dwidmann just wondered if there was a bug with adept or sudo?
[09:25] <markelhas> yestarday i try to install ubuntu and every thing seams normal in the livecd, just like right now with livecd kubuntu
[09:26] <markelhas> but the problem is when i make the install the linux turn to a very very very slow machine
[09:26] <markelhas> the cpu jumps to 100% every time that i trie to run any app, like teminal
[09:27] <markelhas> and the boot process takes -+ 12 to 15 mins
[09:28] <markelhas> how can i install to my disk the livecd config that i'm using right now
[09:28] <markelhas> should i make some special config?
[09:29] <markelhas> any tips to solve this?
[09:34] <markelhas> anyone!?
[09:42] <owl> moin
[09:43] <owl> re
[09:43] <owl> aeh. arghs
[09:46] <aaaaaaaa> .
[09:50] <tid-wave> hello. is it worth installing the amd64 version ? I don't know if I need it.
[09:50] <owl> hmmm. one question: is there a way to select kernel-modules you want to load...?
[09:50] <obvio171> i installed rubygems through apt-get and when i install gems using "sudo gem install", they don't get added to the path, although they are at /var/lib/gems/1.8/gems/. Does anyone know what is the problem and how can i fix it without manually adding each gem to the path? Thanks!
[09:51] <llutz> tid-wave: if you don't know, you don't need :) only needed if you have >4GB RAM or need more interupts
[09:53] <Angelus> is there something in linux to take video of your pc? like screenshot but a video
[09:53] <llutz> Angelus: recordmydesktop
[09:53] <Angelus> ok :p
[09:56] <Angelus> thanks llutz
[09:57] <tid-wave> llutz: thanks for the information
[10:09] <markelhas> what value should i use for swap?
[10:11] <evri2> qtparted vs gparted.Which do you prefer?
[10:11] <llutz> cfdisk :)
[10:11] <Xplicit> evri2: theyre basically the same
[10:12] <rustalot> will gutsy use xorg 7.3?
[10:12] <llutz> rustalot: iirc not, 8.04 will
[10:12] <Xplicit> if im in kde ill go for qt if im in gnome id go with g
[10:15] <evri2> llutz: cfdisk ownz yea :p
[10:21] <rustalot> llutz: Hardy will also have KDE4 default, right?
[10:21] <llutz> rustalot: don't know
[10:21] <stdin> rustalot: nope
[10:22] <rustalot> darn
[10:22] <Miltos> hi ppl:-]
[10:24] <Miltos> what's the application i've to use in kubuntu in order to create a photo cd/dvd?
[10:24] <bjwebb> hi
[10:26] <bjwebb> how do i make a script or app start automatically at boot?
[10:26] <Mr_Sonoma> Miltos, there are several i use dvdslideshow myself for picture slideshow dvd's
[10:28] <compilerwriter> !adept fix | compilerwriter
[10:28] <Miltos> Mr_Sonoma, thanks...i am just installing it via adept...
[10:28] <emilsedgh> bjwebb: I think the best way is to start it and make you computer how you really want to start-up like that and then save your session
[10:28] <bjwebb> emilsedgh: nah its a cli program
[10:29] <Mr_Sonoma> Miltos, its a command line program give me a sec and i'll give you a url to a wiki that has a how to
[10:29] <emilsedgh> bjwebb: so i dunno exaclty which is the best way to do it :)
[10:29] <Miltos> Mr_Sonoma, i wait...
[10:30] <llutz> Miltos: on getdeb.net you'll find "mandvd" and "manslide", they also create picture-dvds
[10:31] <melomane> is it possible to have a partition and mount it as home?
[10:31] <llutz> melomane: sure
[10:31] <melomane> llutz: i made a ext3 partition, and mounted it in as my home
[10:32] <llutz> melomane: copy all from /home to the new partition and edit /etc/fstab after that to mount that partition at /home
[10:32] <melomane> llutz: but i get this error: could not start kstartupconfig , check your installation
[10:32] <melomane> i get it when i want to log in to my user account
[10:32] <waylandbill> bjwebb: make an init script link to your script in the desired run level
[10:33] <melomane> and when i delete that line from fstab or mount it somewhere else, i can log in
[10:33] <compilerwriter> I have a broken sun-java6-plugin install according to adept.  What must I do to fix it?
[10:33] <llutz> melomane: you already copied your complete $HOME
[10:33] <llutz>  ?
[10:33] <melomane> llutz: i didnt get what u mean
[10:34] <Mr_Sonoma> Miltos, sorry i cant find where i had it bookmarked.
[10:34] <melomane> llutz: i just made a partition and mounted it in : /home/melomane
[10:34] <llutz> melomane: you need to copy the content of your actual home-dir to the new partition before mounting it
[10:34] <owl> someone has a hint for me?
[10:34] <Miltos> Mr_Sonoma, thanks any way...
[10:35] <melomane> llutz: there is only one folder "Desktop", i should cpoy it in my new partition?
[10:36] <llutz> melomane: there are hidden files/folders aswell
[10:36] <melomane> llutz: ahan yeah i forgot
[10:36] <llutz> melomane: cp -a ~ /media/your/new/partition
[10:36] <melomane> llutz: thanks , i will check for that
[10:37] <Miltos> bye ppl, thanks
[10:38] <melomane> llutz: another question about kubuntu, i have 2 dsl connections, i can connect to one of them without any problem ( i use ppoeconf) , but the other one, i cant. in plog i recieved: PAP authentication failed. but i can connect by this account in windows and opensuse
[10:38] <llutz> melomane: check username/password for that 2nd connection
[10:39] <melomane> llutz: they are correct. i conneted in windows and opensuse
[10:39] <llutz> melomane: maybe you have to put user/password into /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
[10:40] <melomane> llutz: does this file contains the passwords?
[10:40] <llutz> melomane: it's long ago i used it... yes, i think so
[10:41] <melomane> llutz: anyway, thanks a million
[10:41] <llutz> melomane: just edit the file as root, enter a line "  user * password  "    <- with your values
[10:42] <melomane> llutz: ahan, i will do that, thanks
[10:43] <rignes> What's the purpose of the UID's in the fstab?
[10:45] <emilsedgh> melomane: 'ahan' is sooo farsi :P
[10:46] <melomane> emilsedgh: i know, i just want to show the agreement
[10:46] <melomane> emilsedgh: ;)
[10:46] <emilsedgh> melomane: ;)
[10:47] <melomane> emilsedgh: thats nice, to find u here
[10:47] <melomane> emilsedgh: i got some advise, i wish they work
[10:48] <emilsedgh> melomane: :P
[10:49] <evri2> is it possible to use v4l2 in kopete?My webcam works on amsn but i want it to work on kopete.Because i do not like amsn :)
[10:49] <emilsedgh> melomane: yah I see, I hope they will work
[10:50] <ubuntu__> i hava a little problem, somebody can help me?
[10:51] <MarcC> how do I troubleshoot a locked sound device?
[10:51] <melomane> emilsedgh: r u online on all irc channels of freenode? :P
[10:59] <somiran> hi
[11:00] <somiran> help me i am new here
[11:00] <somiran> is this a chat room or a room for programmer
[11:02] <ScorpKing> just ask jour question.
[11:02] <somiran> i need a kubuntu alternate cd
[11:03] <ScorpKing> download it from the internet.
[11:03] <somiran> my speed is so slow
[11:03] <somiran> it will take about a day
[11:03] <ScorpKing> search for a comapny in ur country that will post it to you then.
[11:04] <somiran> can you tell mje some
[11:04] <somiran> i am in india
[11:04] <ScorpKing> sorry i don't know any. try google.
[11:05] <somiran> ok
[11:05] <somiran> bye every one
[11:05] <somiran> close
[11:06] <jhonyrod> somebody can help me?
[11:07] <unclephreak> anyone know if ubuntustudio is any good?
[11:08] <ScorpKing> no idea...
[11:08] <urli> hola
[11:08] <urli> hola a todos
[11:08] <unclephreak> im installing like 192 packages for it i hope its good...  hehe
[11:08] <urli> hola a todos
[11:09] <d0uglas> how can i get ssh to ignore an invalid key? it bails out on me saying someone might be up to something bad...
[11:09] <ryan_> Hello, Im trying to run adept updater and it is asking me to insert my Kubuntu 7.04 cd.  I have lost this cd since i installed is there away to get whatever it wants on the cd from the internet?
[11:09] <urli> hola
[11:09] <urli> como  estas
[11:09] <unclephreak> your sources are set for your cd
[11:09] <urli> de donde sos
[11:09] <urli> hablas esapol
[11:09] <urli> espaol
[11:09] <ryan_> Where can i change that unclephreak?
[11:10] <unclephreak> you need to go to your repositories and enable the universe and multiverse repos
[11:10] <ScorpKing> ryan_: /ets/apt/sources.list
[11:10] <ScorpKing> ryan_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:10] <ryan_> thanks
[11:10] <unclephreak> you should be able to do it through adept as well
[11:11] <urli> alguien habla espaol
[11:11] <urli> alguien habla espaol
[11:11] <urli> alguien habla espaol
[11:11] <urli> espaol
[11:11] <unclephreak> settings>repositories
[11:11] <ryan_> hm. multiverse and universe are uncommeted in sources.list, ill see what it says in adept.
[11:12] <d0uglas> ryanakca: what is you be fendin' to apt get?
[11:12] <unclephreak> oops, its adept>manage repositories
[11:12] <rnb> don't suppose anyone here know something about ati 9700 pro AIW card?
[11:13] <urli> hay alguien que hable espaol
[11:13] <urli> hay alguien que hable espaol
[11:13] <unclephreak> i use the mesa drivers for my ati card..  for some reason theyre the only ones i can get blender to run smoothly on
[11:13] <urli> hay alguien que hable espaol
[11:13] <urli> hay alguien que hable espaol
[11:13] <urli> hay alguien que hable espaol
[11:13] <urli> hay alguien que hable espaol
[11:13] <urli> hay alguien que hable espaol
[11:13] <urli> hay alguien que hable espaol
[11:13] <urli> hay alguien que hable espaol
[11:13] <tsdgeos> !es
[11:13] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:13] <urli> hay alguien que hable espaol
[11:13] <tsdgeos> urli: PACIENCIA!
[11:14] <rnb> i've tried them but my card randomly locks up.
[11:14] <urli> hay alguien que hable espaol
[11:14] <tsdgeos> !es | urli
[11:14] <ubotu> urli: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:14] <unclephreak> mb have you tried it from source?
[11:15] <unclephreak> for some reason the mesa drivers didnt work for me so i got em from sourceforge
[11:15] <rnb> used the ones in feisty, tried the restricted and used envy to install i get the same results....no i haven't tried compiling my own yet
[11:16] <rnb> ok....all the drivers will work it is just the random freezes that are trying my patiences...ol
[11:17] <unclephreak> i see.  i dont know what to tell you, your card is brand new?
[11:17] <rnb> lol....hell no
[11:18] <rnb> but it works under winblows so i know itisn't hardware
[11:18] <unclephreak> well i guess the card isnt corrupt then
[11:19] <rnb> i'll try getting them from sourceforge...the build is only yesterday so not sure how ong it takes changes to get to the repository
[11:22] <aguitel> hello
[11:22] <mrksbrd> is there a shortcut to change desktop icon images?????
[11:24] <mrksbrd> what i am trying to specifically do is create a html shortcut and appy my own image to just that icon
[11:24] <unclephreak> left click the icon, properties then click the icon
[11:25] <mrksbrd> but under preview it is grayed out
[11:25] <aguitel> anyone helpme
[11:26] <aguitel> i have error when shutdown ,nothing happens
[11:26] <unclephreak> use ffmpeg to convert your file to a png image, or you can use gimp
[11:26] <mrksbrd> ok
[11:27] <unclephreak> aguitel what are you running?  feisty?
[11:27] <droach> anyone in here program in python
[11:28] <aguitel> yes feisty
[11:28] <unclephreak> does the shutdown menu even pop up when u select it?
[11:29] <unclephreak> i would try updating and try it again cos ive never heard of anything of the sort
[11:29] <aguitel> unclephreak ,how fix this error
[11:31] <unclephreak> i really  couldnt tell you without having more info man
[11:32] <Angelus> what package i have to install to be able to make menuconfig?
[11:35] <adenicio> how to install pilots for konqueror?like for flash etc
[11:35] <Angelus> what package i have to install to be able to make menuconfig?
[11:36] <adenicio> how to install pilots for konqueror?like for flash etc
[11:36] <amigamia> is there anywhere fast one can download linuxmce?
[11:36] <amigamia> this torrent business is dead slow
[11:37] <inaety> hey when i try to replace beryl as my window manager i have none of the top part of the windows...X, maxmise, minimise...etc
[11:39] <amigamia> beryl is neat
[11:39] <amigamia> bbl
[11:42] <adenicio> how to install pilots for konqueror?like for flash etc
[11:42] <adenicio> how to install plugins for konqueror?like for flash etc
[11:42] <adenicio> how to install plugins for konqueror?like for flash etc
[11:46] <adenicio> how to install plugins for konqueror?like for flash etc
[11:48] <ScorpKing> try 'sudo aptitude search flash' to see if any flash packages is available
[11:53] <Ubuntiac> Anyone here have any ideas on getting both Nvidia-glx-new *and* Madwifi working together? Madwifi seems to need the restricted modules and Nvidia seems to need them to not be there...
[11:53] <adenicio> ScorpKing: there are some flash install but i dont tink there are for konqueror
[11:54] <inaety> adenicio: sudo apt-get install libflash-nonfree
[11:55] <inaety> Ubuntiac: i don't think nvidia depends on madwifi
[11:56] <adenicio> inaety: how to enbla the ver num key automatic when log in linux?
[11:56] <adenicio> i forgot how
[11:56] <martos> alguien que hable espaol?
[11:57] <tsdgeos> !es | martos
[11:57] <ubotu> martos: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:57] <Ubuntiac> No Nvidia seems to conflict with Madwifi. When I install Nvidia (/restricted-modules), wifi stops working
[11:57] <martos> gracias!!
[11:57] <inaety> kcontrol/keyboard and mouse/turn on in NumLock on KDE startup
[11:57] <martos> thanks!!
[11:58] <inaety> adenicio: ^^
[11:58] <inaety> Ubuntiac: try uninstalling madwifi and then nvidia
[11:58] <adenicio> ok
[11:58] <adenicio> tanks
[11:58] <Ubuntiac> Inaety: Uninstall madwifi, then install Nvidia?
[11:59] <inaety> Ubuntiac: uninstall both, then install nvidia
[11:59] <jhutchins> !flash
[11:59] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:59] <adenicio> inaety: do u know any link to see if my graphic card is compat with copiz,beryl,xgl?just to see if i can get the 3d desktop
[12:00] <adenicio> i have a VIA
[12:00] <inaety> i've never heard of VIA, adenicio
[12:01] <ScorpKing> adenicio: then i don't know.
[12:01] <Ubuntiac> Inaety: K, uninstall both, then resinstall Nvidia, followed by re-installing linux-restricted-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic (needed for Restricted Driver Manager)?
[12:02] <mneptok> adenicio: the Unichrome drivers for Linux do not support 3D, so no compositing for VIA users
[12:02] <adenicio> inaety:  jhutchins u all was on a break time or something u all pop up about the same time.my card is a via km400
[12:02] <adenicio> ok
[12:05] <adenicio> libflash-nonfree is it real non free? jhutchins?
[12:05] <hydrogen> its non free as in speech
[12:05] <hydrogen> its freeasinbeer
[12:05] <hydrogen> (tm)
[12:06] <adenicio> beer not free
[12:06] <ScorpKing> i can use w3m to access the web but konqueror says host not found. where do i start looking?
[12:07] <adenicio> u got firefox?
[12:07] <ScorpKing> no. can install it quickly.
[12:07] <adenicio> if its says the samething something wrong in your config for internet
[12:08] <ScorpKing> ok
[12:09] <adenicio> !aptfix
[12:09] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:10] <inaety_> Ubuntiac: sorry my internet died
[12:10] <inaety_> Ubuntiac: basically after everything is installed you are going to install your restricted modules and linux headers...then install nvidia-glx-xxxxxxx, and then make sure you configure your stuff that your card works...run nvidia-xconfig whatever and make sure the card is up and running in X or something.  then install madwifi...oh and make sure your system is fully updated.
[12:13] <Ubuntiac> Inaety: thx, I'll give that a go!
[12:13] <inaety_> Ubuntiac: good luck
[12:13] <Ubuntiac> Inaety: Thx
[12:13] <adenicio> inaetywhere do i go to scan for plugins?
[12:14] <inaety_> adenicio: settings, configure konqueror, plugins, scan for plugins...you won't learn if you don't try btw
[12:15] <ScorpKing> adenicio: thanks! firefox is online. :-D
[12:16] <adenicio> btw?i could find it but it juts i reinstall konqueror in french and everthing here look different
[12:16] <adenicio> ScorpKing: k
[12:17] <adenicio> inaety_: i mean i reinstall linux in french
[12:20] <adenicio> inaety_: how do i put linux back in english?
[12:21] <inaety_> adenicio: what do you mean
[12:21] <BluesKaj> adenicio, a hint , once you've installed flashplugin-nonfree, java-common & j2re1.4 , if you are using konq as a browser , choose defaults and all plugins should work
[12:22] <inaety_> adenicio: if you want konqueror in english uninstall the french one and then install the english one
[12:23] <Angelus> please i need help with this error http://rafb.net/p/zlXX5H51.html
[12:23] <adenicio> inaety_: sorry i mean i install linux in french can i put it in english without reinstalin?
[12:24] <inaety_> kcontrol > regions and language
[12:24] <eljefe> adenicio: you can change the language settings in the System Settings, from the KMenu
[12:25] <rustalot> I installed the Gutsy Kernel to make it work on my laptop (Inspiron 1420), and now it won't let me install 'build-essential'
[12:25] <inaety_> adenicio: then install a new language...english
[12:25] <inaety_> and then default it
[12:25] <eljefe> can anyone tell me, can I change the HAL/media manager rules to check if a program is already open before auto-running that same program?  and, how?
[12:25] <nosrednaekim> rustalot: unfortunately, you need to re-add the gutsy repositoreis and then get that.
[12:26] <eljefe> when i put in a CD, i don't always want it to open a new KAudioCreator
[12:26] <Angelus> BluesKaj: http://rafb.net/p/zlXX5H51.html
[12:28] <Sanne> Angelus: seems you need ncurses.h, it's in this package: libncurses5-dev
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Angelus, what were installing or changing ?
[12:29] <Angelus> BluesKaj: compiling a custom kernel lol
[12:29] <rustalot> When is Gutsy going to move into beta?
[12:31] <Angelus> nah BluesKaj , i compiled many kernels on gentoo, and i compiled one on kubuntu last time too, well anyways im used to blowing my system and re-install
[12:32] <adenicio> eljefe: i want everything in english menu etc
[12:32] <inaety_> eljefe: when you put in a camera or something disc usb stick, it should ask you what you want to do with it...you can click on settings from there
[12:35] <eljefe> inaety_: i know but i already have selected 'open kaudio'... but i don't want it to open a new one EVERY time...
[12:35] <eljefe> only those times when its not already running
[12:36] <DevideZero> i install correct my video driver and when i boot up i can get grapthic someone have idea why ?
[12:36] <owl> .oO( strange nicks )
[12:36] <Jork> Hello
[12:36] <Jork> Can anyone help me installing Deluge-torrent?
[12:37] <Jork> I cant find it in adept neither in synaptic


[17:11] <ahoneybun> popey: any reason why https://launchpad.net/~darinsmiller can't log into the ubuntu wiki?