[00:00] <kukman> What program can make light screenshot (<500kb) and save it to the folder
[00:00] <Pelo> spencerk,  both tommand on the same line seperated by &&
[00:00] <james_hetfield>  Installed: 2007i-0ubuntu0.7.10
[00:00] <sizzam> kukman: does it have to be a fullscreen screenshot, or just of one application window
[00:00] <james_hetfield> strange...
[00:00] <kukman> full screen
[00:00] <spencerk> Pelo, thx
[00:00] <donkeyofdarkness> kukman, irfanview
[00:00] <_Johny> kukman, Can you stop screeming please?. Someone give you a hand when they can, no reason for it...
[00:00] <kukman> without any dialogs
[00:00] <james_hetfield> soundray:  Installed: 2007i-0ubuntu0.7.10
[00:01] <sizzam> kukman: ok, i don't know the answer
[00:01] <donkeyofdarkness> irfanview
[00:01] <james_hetfield> Is there a way to revert to 2007h?
[00:01] <sizzam> kukman: won't gnome-screenshot do it?
[00:02] <kukman> thanks for the answers.
[00:02] <donkeyofdarkness> irfanview lets you set a keyboard shortcut for screenshots. and you can set the quality and stuff beforehand
[00:02] <soundray> james_hetfield: have you played with hardy repositories?
[00:02] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i use VirtualBox to install XP to a real HDD?
[00:02] <james_hetfield> soundray: well, yes I have...
[00:02] <donkeyofdarkness> It's for windows though. don't know how well the capture works on linux
[00:02] <bradv> spencerk: Append & to the end of the command (after a space) to get it to spin off as a new process.
[00:02] <soundray> james_hetfield: that's too bad -- downgrading will be excruciatingly difficult
[00:03] <jnb> does someone know which directory/ies i should backup if i want to backup my drivers for my ATI radeon 9800? i want to backup them before i install any new drivers
[00:03] <neur1> is there a pager setting to make it transparent?
[00:03] <james_hetfield> soundray: yeah, i figured it out by now : )
[00:04] <abcent> .... nvidia-installer: Error opening log file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for writing (Permission denied); disabling logging.
[00:04] <Whisperkiller> yeah it tells me no such file or directory
[00:04] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i install xp to a external HDD in ubuntu
[00:04] <Whisperkiller> man this is getting aggravating
[00:04] <jals> how do i kill firefox
[00:04] <Pelo> later folks
[00:04] <bradv> jala: killall firefox-bin
[00:04] <blue42> abcent: need to be root to run that
[00:04] <jals> it says it's running but i don't see it
[00:04] <choudesh> jals: open terminal `sudo killall firefox-bin` or use the System->Admin->System Monitor to kill it
[00:04] <soundray> james_hetfield: your options are: reinstall gutsy, live with your system as it is and don't update (could be a security risk), or keep up with hardy (can break your system, only recommended if you have backups & time on your hands etc.)
[00:04] <sizzam> Whisperkiller: what are you trying to do?
[00:04] <james_hetfield> You can always use the system monitor
[00:05] <jals> james_hetfield, where is that
[00:05] <abcent> thnx blue42 ... this is all new for me :)
[00:05] <blue42> abcent: wait, before you do that
[00:05] <james_hetfield> soundray: I was thinking, they should come up with a working 2007i soon, right?
[00:05] <linux88> _johny hey check htis out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=576728&highlight=gateway+mx8738
[00:05] <abcent> k
[00:05] <blue42> abcent: are you running ubuntu 7.10?
[00:05] <Denyerec> Congratufuckinglations to the Ubuntu Installer being useable only in 1024x768
[00:05] <Whisperkiller> install my freakin ati drivers....i have this file....ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86_64.run and the instructions tell me to run it lik sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86_64.run
[00:05] <abcent> yes
[00:05] <Denyerec> Who's bright idea was that ?
[00:05] <Whisperkiller> but it tells me no such file
[00:05] <donkeyofdarkness> o_O
[00:06] <LjL> !language | Denyerec
[00:06] <ubotu> Denyerec: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:06] <Chest> guys, I need to format a hard disk for vfat.  what system id do I use under fdisk and how do I actually format the disk with the fat32 filesystem?
[00:06] <blue42> abcent: you should be able to use the restricted drivers manager insteead
[00:06] <soundray> james_hetfield: definitely not before April
[00:06] <james_hetfield> or maybe i'll log in in a shell and massacre the system ...
[00:06] <LjL> !bugs > Denyerec    (Denyerec, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:06] <choudesh> james_hetfield: can you please postbin the ouput to you get `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade`
[00:06] <Denyerec> Bah, whoever did it needs a smack upside the head. :)
[00:06] <soundray> james_hetfield: sorry, misread your question
[00:06] <abcent> where is that located?
[00:06] <blue42> abcent: click on the icon in the top right corner of your desktop that looks like a pci-card
[00:06] <Denyerec> It's hardly a bug, it looks too much like a design decision
[00:06] <choudesh> !pastebin | james_hetfield
[00:06] <ubotu> james_hetfield: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:07] <LjL> Denyerec: might not be. people are so used to high resolution that they sometimes don't think about lower ones.
[00:07] <donkeyofdarkness> !gkrellm
[00:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Chest: gparted or gparted livecd will do it
[00:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gkrellm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:07] <donkeyofdarkness> :(
[00:07] <bradv> Whisperkiller: ls is the command to list the contents of a directory. ls -al will show you the permissions / modes. Check to see if the file exists and that is has execute permissions (should show up green).
[00:07] <linux88> Can someone help me get my wireless to work with the BCM4318E broadcom chipset
[00:07] <soundray> james_hetfield: tzdata will be the least of your problems in the medium term. You must have replaced very central components of your installation with hardy packages.
[00:07] <donkeyofdarkness> !vista
[00:07] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[00:07] <Denyerec> I'll try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg
[00:07] <abcent> blue42: it's no longer there
[00:07] <james_hetfield> Setting up tzdata (2007i-0ubuntu0.7.10) ...
[00:07] <james_hetfield> dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure):
[00:07] <james_hetfield>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10
[00:07] <james_hetfield> Errors were encountered while processing:
[00:07] <james_hetfield>  tzdata
[00:07] <james_hetfield> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[00:07] <V1k1ng> linux88, use the restricted drivers manager?
[00:07] <LjL> Denyerec: it's true that VESA mode should always allow 1024x768
[00:07] <LjL> !paste > james_hetfield    (james_hetfield, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:07] <blue42> abcent: look for it under System->Adminstration->Restricted manager
[00:07] <Whisperkiller> i have the file
[00:07] <abcent> i have moved the toolbars
[00:07] <Chest> Jack_Sparrow: thanks.  i'll give it a shot.
[00:08] <Jack_Sparrow> james_hetfield: Next time try using the pastebin...
[00:08] <Aintaer> Hey how do I check which ports are open on my machine?
[00:08] <Chest> Aintaer: netstat
[00:08] <linux88> v1k1ng how
[00:08] <Whisperkiller> this is the file ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86_64.run
[00:08] <Aintaer> righto
[00:08] <abcent> ok hold on a sec
[00:08] <james_hetfield> Jack_Sparrow: k
[00:08] <Aintaer> Thanks
[00:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Aintaer: I use grc.com  shields-up
[00:08] <Whisperkiller> its on my desktop and im at the desktop prompt
[00:08] <sizzam> Whisperkiller: have you seen this walkthrough for ATI drivers?   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[00:08] <choudesh> james_hetfield: please use pastebin. try to dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[00:08] <jals> is there a quick way to quit X to install gfx drivers?
[00:08] <james_hetfield> tried
[00:09] <V1k1ng> linux88:  look for it under system >> admin >> restricted drivers manager
[00:09] <jnb> In which directory is the drivers for the graphic card?
[00:09] <choudesh> james_hetfield: hmm... apt-get install --purge tzdata
[00:09] <Jack_Sparrow> james_hetfield: Why didnt it work?  It is quite simple
[00:09] <abcent> enabled is ticked, and in use
[00:09] <soundray> choudesh: no, please...
[00:09] <blue42> jals:  yes... ctrl-alt-f1 to go to new terminal, run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[00:09] <bradv> Whisperkiller: Please use people's names when you address them. Were any of those comments directed to me?
[00:09] <choudesh> soundray: ?
[00:09] <choudesh> james_hetfield: rather, apt-get purge tzdata
[00:09] <linux88> v1k1ng says i didnt need any supported drivers, and lspci doesnt show me the driver or card either
[00:10] <mikebeecham> what samba client tools should I have for gutsy gibbon?
[00:10] <choudesh> soundray: PM please.
[00:10] <soundray> james_hetfield: don't do as choudesh suggests, unless you have a full backup and don't mind reinstalling
[00:10] <blue42> abcent: then you're ready to go
[00:10] <blue42> abcent: as a test, try opening a terminal, and running 'nvidia-settings'
[00:10] <james_hetfield> soundray: yep, I'm reading now
[00:10] <_Johny> linux88, What distro are you using?
[00:10] <V1k1ng> linux88:  lol!  I guess you could try to install ndiswrapper and use the drivers from windows
[00:10] <Whisperkiller> bradv: the previous comments were yes
[00:11] <EchoBinary> how do i turn off compositing when i cant see any windows? i set the compositing tweak, and now i cant see anything, is there any solution?
[00:11] <linux88> _johny 7.10
[00:11] <linux88> v1k1ng ya
[00:11] <lwizardl> how do I install UDF 2.5 support in 7.10
[00:11] <mikebeecham> what samba client tools should I have for gutsy gibbon?
[00:11] <V1k1ng> linux88,   it should have detected your broadcom card
[00:11] <Whisperkiller> sizzam: that walkthrough doesnt address install from ati website for gutsy
[00:11] <choudesh> soundray: I thought they fixed that with tzdata 2007-h? I thought you should be able to purge it and install 2007i-1
[00:11] <bradv> Whisperkiller: Does the file have execute permissions? Check ls -al and see if there is an x listed in the permissions column.
[00:11] <LjL> EchoBinary: so you did something that you knew was a tweak/hack, without knowing how to revert it? congratulations ;P
[00:11] <sizzam> Whisperkiller: won't the drivers from the repositories work for you?
[00:11] <choudesh> soundray: seems the only thing that will fix his issue is using 2007i-1
[00:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !fwcutter
[00:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fwcutter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:12] <abcent> Blue42: cheers :)
[00:12] <EchoBinary> LjL: it was a selectable option
[00:12] <EchoBinary> and no
[00:12] <_Johny> linux88, Did you find out what's the chipset of this device?
[00:12] <Whisperkiller> sizzam: no they most certainly will not lol i have an x1950 agp card and it doesnt work with repository drivers
[00:12] <EchoBinary> LjL: if you go to settings >> and window manager tweaks there is a whole list of options
[00:12] <james_hetfield> choudesh , soundray , thank you for the help, I'll think of something.
[00:12] <alanhaggai> Hi, what can I do to solve this error message? Starting Hardware abstraction layer: haldinvoke-rc.d: initscript hal, action "start" failed. It is interfering with dpkg and I am not able to install any .deb file.
[00:12] <sizzam> Whisperkiller: ahh, ok
[00:12] <zim-home-bot> Lo! I'm just a silent bot.
[00:12] <askand> Um...ubuntu seems to have the same serious bug OSX have...If I copy files from my computer to an external drive and the power is cut; the file disappears..   Is this right? :O
[00:12] <linux88> _johny Broadcom BCM4318E
[00:13] <PriceChild> zim-home-bot, help
[00:13] <dissection> lwizardl: There's a UDF patch available, but I haven't tried it.
[00:13] <zim-home-bot> Please don't kick me!
[00:13] <LjL> ok
[00:13] <soundray> james_hetfield: good luck. And please consider political sensitivities when it comes to choosing a nick.
[00:13] <linux88> _johny i think for some reason its not detecting it, do u think it could be turned off by default?
[00:13] <_Johny> linux88, BIOS?
[00:13] <Aintaer> heh, I have wesnoth port open
[00:13] <Aintaer> that's not a big threat, right
[00:13] <james_hetfield> soundray: well, It's a long debate :  )
[00:13] <LjL> EchoBinary, i think gutsy has some safe graphics mode you can boot in
[00:13] <Twenty> portuguese? :)
[00:14] <mikebeecham> what samba client tools should I have for gutsy gibbon?
[00:14] <mikebeecham> please...I need to know
[00:14] <choudesh> LjL: heh. That just made me giggle.
[00:14] <EchoBinary> LjL: i tried that  - but it wont let me unselect because there is no runnign window manager
[00:14] <sizzam> mikebeecham: i don't think we're understanding the question.   what are you trying to do with samba?
[00:14] <james_hetfield> soundray: sturmfuehrer dates back to World War I
[00:14] <linux88> _johny ya
[00:14] <lwizardl> dissection, know of a working patch becuase the last 2 i have tired don't work
[00:14] <soundray> james_hetfield: exactly, and it's not for here (/msg ubotu o4o)
[00:14] <xristian> is there a manual for bluefish ?
[00:14] <linux88> _johny could that be why its not even detecting it
[00:14] <sizzam> xristian: do this at a terminal:   man bluefish
[00:14] <james_hetfield> Good Day / Night, gentlemen : )
[00:15] <dissection> lwizardl: Not really. I've been asking help in here regarding this from the past 1 month or so, and either no one knows, or I'm invisible.
[00:15] <mikebeecham> I am working with someone in Samba channel sizzam.  We have gone through samba but what I want to do does not work yet, so he says we need some tools to look into more details.....but I have been using linux 3 days so I dont know
[00:15] <lwizardl> ah so both in the same boat :(
[00:15] <_Johny> linux88, Just to be sure - You could put in the term "sudo grep -i wireless or (WLAN) /var/log/kernel
[00:15] <sizzam> mikebeecham: are you just trying to share a folder on your linux box so you can access it from a windows box?
[00:15] <choudesh> lwizardl: what seems to be the issue?
[00:15] <dissection> lwizardl: Blu-ray or HD-DVD?
[00:16] <mikebeecham> sizzam
[00:16] <mikebeecham> it's quite complicated....
[00:16] <frb-work> Hi
[00:16] <lwizardl> dissection,  hd
[00:16] <bradv> !offtopic dissection
[00:16] <frb-work> how do I set a s systemwide proxy ?
[00:16] <Jack_Sparrow> I used fwcutter for the bcm43xx in Feisty..  is that not true any more
[00:16] <lwizardl> choudesh, trying to get udf 2.5 working on ubuntu 7.10
[00:16] <dissection> lwizardl: Blu-ray here. I can't get it to mount.
[00:16] <dissection> bradv: ...
[00:16] <Denyerec> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg, follow instructions, ctrl+alt+backspace  for the win!
[00:17] <Denyerec> NOt something i'd want my mum to have to do, though :)
[00:17] <sizzam> frb-work: System -> Preferences -> Network Proxy
[00:17] <mikebeecham> I have a dual boot PC. when i was using windows I shared some folders for my xbox media centre downstairs to be able to stream media from those folders.  When I boot into linux, however, the xbox media center downstairs cannot acccess the media from those folders
[00:17] <mikebeecham> sizzam:
[00:17] <TalusTheKatty> Hi, has anyone had problems getting Compiz to work with dual screens?
[00:17] <choudesh> lwizardl: that that was in one of the new kernels
[00:17] <frb-work> sizzam: I did that, but firefox didn't use it
[00:17] <Bensel> I'm having trouble getting an FTP server to work on Ubuntu. I know the router and everything is set up properly, as it works fine in Windows, but in Ubuntu I can't seem to connect from other computers
[00:17] <xristian> theres no much info about bluefish. i need  somethin more than 1page manual ,,  any idea how to get it ?
[00:18] <sizzam> mikebeecham: i took some notes last time i set up samba, you can see if this helps at all:  http://www.samlesher.com/ubuntu/share-files-with-microsoft-windows-workstations-on-your-network
[00:18] <blue42> TalueTheKatty: ya, it'll run, but invariably one screen will tear like crazy
[00:18] <nickrud> ozzloy: had any success?
[00:18] <lwizardl> choudesh, how do i check which kernal i have?
[00:18] <Bensel> And I've already changed it to port 2001 by suggestion in one of the servers I tried.
[00:18] <choudesh> lwizardl: uname -a
[00:18] <lwizardl>  2.6.22-14-generic
[00:18] <sizzam> frb-work: do you have Firefox set to auto-detect proxy settings?
[00:19] <frb-work> sizzam: I didn't
[00:19] <sizzam> frb-work: maybe that will help, not sure
[00:19] <xristian> anyone tried blue fish as ur html editor ?
[00:19] <sizzam> xristian: i use it sometimes
[00:19] <dissection> mikebeecham: Try system-config-samba. It's a GUI to manage your samba shares.
[00:19] <frb-work> I just edited /etc/environment
[00:19] <frb-work> it's still very dissappointing
[00:19] <nickrud> xristian: http://www.unc.edu/~whitews/bluefish/book.html (don't know just how definitive it is)
[00:20] <digit> does anyone use Enlightenment desktop environment
[00:20] <mikebeecham> dissection: I am using smb4k but it is not working
[00:20] <xristian> thanks for hint
[00:20] <nickrud> xristian: I use it to examine stuff, quicky thingsw
[00:20] <mikebeecham> sizzam: I am looking, but I cannot access the shares
[00:20] <mikebeecham> they are sitting on hdb1
[00:21] <mikebeecham> all media is sitting on my secondary hdd, which is NTFS
[00:21] <mikebeecham> they are all listed within nautilus though
[00:21] <sizzam> mikebeecham: i had the same problem until i manually set a password for that account with this command:  sudo smbpasswd -a <USERNAME>
[00:21] <mikebeecham> I've done that
[00:21] <xristian> thanks anyway nickrudh. im checking it out
[00:21] <mikebeecham> within smb4k i can see hdb1, but it wont let me mount it
[00:21] <jacob> is anybody familiar with http://www.cnr.com?
[00:21] <sizzam> mikebeecham: ahh, k, i'm out of ideas
[00:22] <alain> hi guys..just wanna ask y my k3b wont burn mp3.
[00:22] <mikebeecham> thanks anyway
[00:22] <mshadle> can you upgrade a 32-bit version to a 64-bit version remotely?
[00:22] <Jack_Sparrow> alain: Can you play mp3's
[00:22] <jacob> hi downloaded CNR_Client.cnr, but i cant install it? is it even an installation file?
[00:22] <alain> i can play mp3
[00:22] <kowito>  have a problem with ATI 2600 Pro, Anybody can help me?
[00:22] <LjL> mshadle: actually, you can't upgrade from 32bit to 64bit at all
[00:22] <soundray> alain: probably because you haven't installed libk3b2-mp3
[00:22] <KittenOfWar> sizzam: does the password need to be the same as your boxes login password?
[00:22] <mshadle> weak.
[00:22] <_Johny> kowito, What's the problem
[00:23] <sizzam> KittenOfWar: i always did that as a default, haven't tried it the other way
[00:23] <sizzam> KittenOfWar: actually, disregard that, you can set any password you want for that username i believe
[00:23] <mshadle> what about moving debian to ubuntu remotely? :)
[00:24] <xristian> by the way .. once a guy told i need a repository or somethin like a library for me to compress an audio file to mp3- im talking about soundkonverter.. anyone s dealed this issue?
[00:24] <relapse> hey guys, for some reason my batteru meter in gnome always says 100%, up until it dies, anyone see this before?
[00:24] <Altu60> how can I run avant window manager on startup?
[00:24] <kowito> i'cant install ATI Driver.
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> jacob: Be aware that cnr is NOT for Gutsy...
[00:24] <firpecmox> ATI in linux is almost worthless
[00:24] <bucky1`> i added a microsoft exchange account to my evolution, and i went into mail accounts and deleted it, but there are still remnants of it everywhere.. calendar, tasks, contacts... how do I get rid of all that?
[00:24] <jacob> Jack_Sparrow ok
[00:24] <LjL> jacob: why are you trying to break your system by making some program install random files on sensitive directories, rather than using ubuntu-specific packages from the repositories? :)
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> jacob: Feisty... yes
[00:25] <_Johny> firebird619, Comparing to Nvdia it is, but getting better and better
[00:25] <relapse> hey guys, for some reason my batteru meter in gnome always says 100%, up until it dies, anyone see this before?
[00:25] <lwizardl> choudesh, you know where this patch is supposed to go? because i keep getting file not found for 9 of 9
[00:25] <jacob> Jack_Sparrow: i have ubuntu 7.10
[00:25] <_Johny> relapse, No kernel driver loaded?
[00:26] <firpecmox> has any one tried usin openmosix with ubuntu
[00:26] <kowito> how do i install ATI Driver?
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> jacob: What is it you are wanting to do or install...
[00:26] <bazhang_> !ati | kowito
[00:26] <ubotu> kowito: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:26] <relapse> _Johny: no, because when i type acpi in terminal it shows correct reading
[00:27] <firpecmox> if your ati card isnt new it prolly wont work
[00:27] <xristian> anyones could convert a wav file to mp3 ? someone told me i need library or utils for make it real
[00:27] <ozzloy> nickrud: yes, turns out i had to go system -> preferences -> advanced ... -> preferences -> reset
[00:27] <bazhang_> relapse: eeepc?
[00:27] <jacob> Jack_Sparrow: i came up with site: cnr.com, but i'm guessing that from the site i need a crn client to install any other programs they offer
[00:27] <relapse> bazhang_: yessir
[00:27] <bazhang_> heh
[00:27] <ozzloy> nickrud: then compiz --replace
[00:27] <firpecmox> to encode music use mencoder
[00:27] <Jack_Sparrow> jacob: Best to stick with the official repos, unless you like reinstalling
[00:27] <ozzloy> nickrud: my settings are gone, but the default ones are working.  logged out and back in, everything is well again
[00:28] <MI123645> hey guys, i have a problem installing ubuntu
[00:28] <kowito> ubotu: i'am a newbies
[00:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i'am a newbies - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:28] <Jack_Sparrow> kowito: ubotu is a bot.. automated message
[00:28] <xristian> he said somethin like gnu utils ... yada yada.. it is about encoding . anyones tried?
[00:28] <jacob> Jack_Sparrow: from the site, i want to download the Gizmo project
[00:28] <firpecmox> its n00b btw
[00:28] <kowito> hahaha
[00:29] <sizzam> MI123645: describe your problem :-)
[00:29] <MI123645> everything installs fine up to the point where it hits "running local boot scripts" and it freezes there
[00:29] <jacob> Jack_Sparrow: or just download it from another site?
[00:29] <MI123645> there is a blinking cursor nothing else
[00:29] <Jack_Sparrow> jacob: Never heard of gizmo so I dont know where to send you
[00:29] <MI123645> *but
[00:29] <jacob> Jack_Sparrow: what i 'm trying to get into is to download gizmo
[00:30] <firpecmox> has anyone used ubuntu as a HPC
[00:30] <jacob> Jack_Sparrow: ok , then, thx for you help anyways
[00:30] <graft> can anyone tell me why my LAN transfer rates (SSH over 802.11g, atheros drivers) are so slow (~230KB/s)?
[00:30] <asathoor> I have xubuntu on an old pc. It freezes randomly. Any suggestions on how to detect the hw defect?
[00:30] <_Johny> relapse, It never happened to me before, it might be a bug...
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> jacob: Have you checked the oficial repos?  Do you know about apt-get , aptitude, synaptic?
[00:30] <firpecmox> asathoor: dont use a new desktop environment
[00:30] <jacob> Jack_Sparrow: ok, thx for the help, i'll take it from here
[00:31] <_Johny> !search log
[00:31] <ubotu> Found: logs-#ubuntuforums, tty, logs, ircmeetings, meetings, startup, channel logs, logo, irclogs, openweek
[00:31] <MI123645> so can anyone help me out with my "running local boot scripts problem"?
[00:31] <soundray> asathoor: the problem is most likely in the RAM. Run memtest86 for a few hours
[00:31] <jacob> Jack_Sparrow: i'll try the sypnatic manager but if not i'll risk downloading it from a different site (official site)
[00:31] <asathoor> firpecmox >> ok, which desktop should I use
[00:31] <_Johny> !logs|asathoor
[00:31] <ubotu> asathoor: Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[00:31] <soundray> MI123645: which version of Ubuntu have you installed?
[00:31] <MI123645> 64-bit
[00:31] <jacob> Jack_Sparrow: if i'm doing something wrong, let me know cause i'm new to linux
[00:31] <soundray> MI123645: 7.10?
[00:32] <firpecmox> any good hpc software for ubuntu
[00:32] <MI123645> soundray: 64-bit ubuntu
[00:32] <Aintaer> Hey guys
[00:32] <MI123645> 7.10
[00:32] <_Johny> asathoor, Sorry, I was just about to give you some info on logs, are you familiar with that?
[00:32] <Aintaer> My sshd suddenly stopped responding
[00:32] <Jack_Sparrow> jacob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gizmo
[00:32] <Aintaer> any idea why?
[00:32] <Oli``> Emergency! How do I undelete files? fs is ext2
[00:32] <soundray> MI123645: have you got multiple hard disk drives?
[00:32] <Aintaer> Shorewall's got ssh ports open
[00:32] <asathoor> no
[00:32] <MI123645> soundray: yes, two SATA hard drives
[00:32] <Aintaer> netstat shows ssh as listening but under ipv6
[00:32] <asathoor> oh sorry -logs - yes
[00:32] <xristian> i have wav files. i need to make them mp3. i got SoundKonverter, but the option "to mp3" is not able yet- i know i truly need somethin from the synaptics library.. i cant just remember ..anyones heard about such a thing ?
[00:32] <sizzam> Aintaer: have you tried restarting it with '/etc/init.d/ssh restart'
[00:32] <graft> can anyone tell me why my LAN transfer rates (SSH over 802.11g, atheros drivers) are so slow (~230KB/s)?
[00:33] <firpecmox> xristian: use mencoder
[00:33] <kowito> ATI
[00:33] <asathoor> sizzam OK ill  try
[00:33] <jals> argh i've lost my title bars
[00:33] <graft> xristian: or lame
[00:33] <Aintaer> sizzam: Just did, still not responding
[00:33] <Narissa> Is anyone having an issue with the ATI drivers, putting up a distorted block in the lower right hand corner?
[00:33] <soundray> MI123645: any CD-ROM drives?
[00:33] <junkbox> I am see directories when looking through the gui, but when i drop to the command prompt and switch to the path the directories aren't listed there.  anyone have any idea why?
[00:33] <firpecmox> xristian: i think mencoder is better
[00:33] <xristian> yeah that was it ! lame what ?
[00:33] <Aintaer> I can ssh to localhost, but not to the ip
[00:33] <_Johny> xristian, Please can't you just use "google.com/linux" "wave to mp3", there are some more important questions here
[00:33] <Jack_Sparrow> lame encoder
[00:33] <MI123645> soundray: yes, two, but i use the second one for installing ubuntu
[00:33] <xristian> is it faster than lame ?
[00:33] <nickrud> xristian: I think all you need is lame (but if you add mencoder, soundkonverter will use it)
[00:34] <k31th> was ubuntu designed by its creator to make a profit ?
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[00:34] <sizzam> Aintaer: but not to your router private ip?
[00:34] <firpecmox> xristian: i think it gives u more options
[00:34] <k31th> Jack_Sparrow: you talking to me
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[00:34] <asathoor> Aintaer >> open a port in your router / firewall : default 22
[00:34] <soundray> MI123645: are they SATA too, or old-style parallel ATA?
[00:34] <NickPresta> Compiz is enabled on the LiveCD by default too, correct?
[00:34] <MI123645> PATA
[00:34] <Aintaer> asathoor: the firewall has the port open
[00:34] <lesterc> quickie - is 7.10 == gusty?
[00:34] <k31th> Jack_Sparrow: why do so many said that it was?
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> lesterc: yes
[00:34] <asathoor> and the router?
[00:34] <firpecmox> xristian: most gui that u install will run it through mencoder rather than lame
[00:34] <xristian> sounds good. i ll try both .. thnks
[00:34] <jals> sorry, back
[00:34] <lesterc> Jack_Sparrow:  ta.
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:34] <MI123645> soundray: yes they are PATA
[00:34] <jals> so yeah my title bars are gone, any ideas?
[00:35] <sizzam> Aintaer: have you played with any firewall software in ubuntu that could have closed a port?
[00:35] <soundray> MI123645: what kind of mainboard is it?
[00:35] <Jack_Sparrow> k31th: No idea who said that...  but no money is changing hands here
[00:35] <Aintaer> Oh, problem found, dyndns wasn't updated.
[00:35] <MI123645> soundray: Asus P5K Premium
[00:35] <k31th> Jack_Sparrow: here?
[00:35] <sizzam> Aintaer: ahh, that'll do it :)
[00:35] <Aintaer> Thank you guys
[00:35] <Aintaer> :D stupid mistake, really
[00:35] <firpecmox> is it easy to get dyndns's updater to work in linux
[00:36] <Aintaer> It's installed on my machine
[00:36] <Narissa> The heart of Linux is by the people for the people essentially
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> k31th: The cd's are free from shipit, support is free, who is making money
[00:36] <Aintaer> I don't know when it updates
[00:36] <k31th> i dont mean this channel, i mean the distro in general
[00:36] <soundray> MI123645: does it have an ATI chipset?
[00:36] <Narissa> nope
[00:36] <k31th> Narissa: exactly.
[00:36] <MI123645> soundray: All i know is that it supports ATI crossfire
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> k31th: The answer is still  NO
[00:36] <abcent> MI123645: mine is P5K3 deluxe ... are your HDD's SATA or IDE? and lastly what is your CPU?
[00:37] <donkeyofdarkness> go buy a D975XBX2
[00:37] <donkeyofdarkness> now
[00:37] <donkeyofdarkness> it works good
[00:37] <MI123645> soundray: HDD, my CPU is a Core 2 duo E2160
[00:37] <k31th> oh i was just talking to some one on freenode today, and he claimed he didnt like ubuntu as its for n00bs and its founder created it to make money.
[00:37] <Narissa> Linux is the OS that doesn't require money to buy, the support is from teh community.  As I said before by the peopel for the people
[00:37] <MI123645> soundray: I mean SATA HDD
[00:37] <soundray> MI123645: okay. A system freeze at this early stage of booting is usually a chipset incompaitibilty that can be worked around with kernel boot options.
[00:37] <nickrud> k31th: the canonical company is supposed to make money, yes, selling support and the like
[00:37] <k31th> i always thought ubuntu cost him a massive loss.
[00:37] <Narissa> everyone has an opinion K31TH
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> k31th: Sour grapes from someone that dosen't know
[00:37] <donkeyofdarkness> the dude's rich
[00:38] <k31th> very rich :p
[00:38] <MI123645> soundray: How would i be able to open the kernel boot options?
[00:38] <k31th> but not from ubuntu lol
[00:38] <abcent> MI123645: I pondered about installing 64bit, and chose 32bit instead
[00:38] <donkeyofdarkness> nope
[00:38] <Jack_Sparrow> MI123645: F6
[00:38] <k31th> i wonder how he made his riches ?
[00:38] <nickrud> heck, what's wrong with for the n00b's and making money selling support to corp's?
[00:38] <soundray> MI123645: the most hopeful ones are noapic and nolapic -- but you may need to play with ide-related ones as well. Ubotu will send you a factoid about setting kernel boot options.
[00:38] <k31th> nickrud: nowt?
[00:38] <Jack_Sparrow> k31th: That is all off topic in this help channel..
[00:38] <MI123645> ok
[00:38] <soundray> !bootoptions > MI123645
[00:38] <Aintaer> Is there a way I can find out eth0's ip?
[00:38] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[00:38] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:38] <_Johny> MI123645, Or just "ESC" when GRUB prompts for it
[00:38] <nickrud> k31th: versign, I think it was, or one of those web auth certificate companies
[00:39] <k31th> Jack_Sparrow: okiedokie
[00:39] <k31th> nickrud: ahhh
[00:39] <pfwdtech> Im having some problems installing devede-3.3 it still at version 2.13 in synaptic is there any way i can get the newer version?
[00:39] <PriceChild> !offtopic | nickrud k31th
[00:39] <ubotu> nickrud k31th: please see above
[00:39] <bradv> Aintaer: ifconfig
[00:39] <franky123> hey i have a strange module problem. whenever i enable p4-clockmod on my toshiba laptop, my usb mouse will eventually randomly freeze. this never happens unless i modprobe p4-clockmod. any idea why?
[00:39] <jacob> is Gizmo a Voip protocol? and can i make FREE phone calls?
[00:39] <Aintaer> what's the f stand for in ifconfig?
[00:39] <nickrud> PriceChild: yes, I didn't see the earlier
[00:39] <MI123645> thanks soundray
[00:39] <soundray> MI123645: your issue is not likely related to your choice of a 64bit variant.
[00:39] <jacob> where i can make free phone calls without paying
[00:39] <PriceChild> Aintaer, "face" i think, as in "interface" but that's a complete guess
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> jacob: yes it is... but still beta
[00:39] <jacob> mic-computer to phone communication?
[00:39] <Narissa> My ATI seems to be periodically having a strange screen distortion on the lower right hand corner of my screen.  X restart fix's it, but I want to not see it happen.  Card is ATI
[00:40] <bradv> Aintaer: interface
[00:40] <MI123645> soundray: ok, ill put those commands in the boot options
[00:40] <PriceChild> nickrud, then no need to just get one last sentence out... and i don't need a reply either
[00:40] <asathoor> skype
[00:40] <r2d2> macd, fix my linux pls k thx
[00:40] <sizzam> jacob: gizmo does let you make phone calls over the internet, not sure of the prices
[00:40] <_Johny> Aintaer, if=interface ..maybe ;]
[00:40] <r2d2> macd, fix it NOW!!1
[00:40] <k31th> PriceChild: that didnt work, wats the name of the offtopic channel ?
[00:40] <soundray> MI123645: apart from the bootoptions, it may be helpful to check the BIOS setup for APIC-related config options
[00:40] <Jack_Sparrow> jacob: PC to PC free, but not PC to Land line
[00:40] <PriceChild> k31th, #ubuntu-offtopic... as ubotu has already told you
[00:40] <jacob> Jack_Sparrow: ah ok
[00:41] <Narissa> !reg
[00:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:41] <jacob> Jack_Sparrow: like skype?
[00:41] <MI123645> do i have to turn off APIC settings?
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> jacob: yes
[00:41] <franky123> hey i have a strange module problem. whenever i enable p4-clockmod on my toshiba laptop, my usb mouse will eventually randomly freeze. this never happens unless i modprobe p4-clockmod. any idea why?
[00:41] <jacob> Jack_Sparrow: ok, thx
[00:41] <soundray> MI123645: it's worth experimenting with those
[00:41] <MI123645> ok
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> MI123645: I had to use F6 then noapic to get it to install
[00:41] <Templar> hi there - I have an old laptop with P3, 256 ram etc any chance I could install gusty or anything close on it do you think just for my dad to check his email
[00:41] <r2d2> macd, i need mor photoshopz in linux. i try to instal and it say "ERRAR!"
[00:41] <r2d2> fix it pls
[00:41] <r2d2> k thx
[00:42] <MI123645> ok, thanks guys
[00:42] <nickrud> Templar: you should try xubuntu, he can run thunderbird or firefox easily on that
[00:42] <Narissa> Templar: I wouldn't see why not
[00:42] <Telemachus> going for a reinstall, dont want to use automatic partioner..i did this before, im going to have 3 partitions, / , /home, /swap - i have 20GB to play with, whats my best combination? I recall someone saying before, swp should be double the ram, etc any pointers appreciated..
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Templar: Does it have onboard video sharing that ram?
[00:42] <amir_> Can anyone help me with Windows Mobile syncing?
[00:42] <Templar> 16mb video
[00:42] <Templar> i think
[00:42] <r2d2> macd, how do i get to level 3 in linux?
[00:42] <Templar> what is xubuntu
[00:42] <PriceChild> !guidelines | r2d2
[00:42] <ubotu> r2d2: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Templar: But is it shared.. ie using part of that 256
[00:42] <_Johny> r2d2, "sudo init 3"?
[00:43] <Templar> no
[00:43] <nickrud> Telemachus: roughly 2x ram up to 1.5 or 2, and 7 for the / if you plan on installing a lot, 5g if not
[00:43] <soundray> Telemachus: double RAM only applies if you have 256MB or less. If you have more, take RAM*1
[00:43] <r2d2> lol
[00:43] <Templar> ati i think
[00:43] <Narissa> Templar: It's Ubuntu but it uses X
[00:43] <r2d2> xfce
[00:43] <PriceChild> Narissa, xfce, all the buntus use X
[00:43] <Narissa> 8) tyvm r2d2
[00:43] <nickrud> Templar: it's a lighter window manager, many think it's windows like enough for people who just want the basics
[00:43] <Narissa> I got distracted and cut myself short with the enter button LOL
[00:43] <Telemachus> thanks guys
[00:43] <Narissa> keyboard error there 8)
[00:43] <donkeyofdarkness> ubuntu server does not use x
[00:43] <nickrud> no it uses X
[00:44] <Templar> cheers nickrud - that will do him fine
[00:44] <windego40> can someone help me mount my ipod?
[00:44] <Templar> its just thunderbird and firefox and open office he needs
[00:44] <Narissa> Templar: there should be no problem with that at all
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Templar: Try a copy of feisty or dapper  .. Daper has lts
[00:45] <nickrud> Templar: as long as he only opens firefox or thunderbird and openoffice, he should be fine :)
[00:45] <donkeyofdarkness> damn small linux
[00:45] <sizzam> windego40: have you tried gtkpod
[00:45] <donkeyofdarkness> or dsl-n
[00:45] <windego40> sizza: thats like amarok right?
[00:46] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: ubuntu dapper on 256 didn't cut it (for me, anyway), that was when I finally upgraded machines
[00:46] <sizzam> windego40: its an app specifically for managing an ipod,  you can mount it from the file menu (i think) in that program
[00:46] <daedra> it appears that the latest iTunes update in Windows has block my version of gtkpod from loading the mounted iPod correctly - any help?
[00:46] <daedra> ooh sizzam, appears that you're talking about what I need
[00:46] <donkeyofdarkness> I used to run ubuntu fine with 128
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: 256 is marginal.. especially when sharing video
[00:46] <windego40> cool
[00:46]  * nickrud _will_ stay on topic
[00:46] <windego40> ill try it
[00:46] <sizzam> daedra: ya, but its been a long time since i've used gtkpod, not sure of how to fix that problem
[00:47] <sizzam> windego40: sudo apt-get install gtkpod to install it
[00:47] <daedra> sizzam: what is an alternative
[00:47] <daedra> gtkpod rock(ed)
[00:47] <sizzam> daedra: to be honest, i always ditched ipod's OS and put rockbox on instead
[00:47] <amir_> Is there a good contact management software similar to ACT!?
[00:47] <acoster> Hi. Is anyone here using madwifi + kismet on Gutsy?
[00:47] <nickrud> amir_: no
[00:47] <donkeyofdarkness> hmm
[00:47] <asathoor> which log file shows hw problems?
[00:47] <daedra> sizzam: it's a 5.5G, so rockbox is out
[00:47] <donkeyofdarkness> I remember act
[00:47] <mneptok> amir_: http://www.salesforce.com
[00:48] <donkeyofdarkness> I used it back on windows95
[00:48] <amir_> i downloaded korganizer
[00:48] <sizzam> daedra: darn,  can't think of any alternatives
[00:48] <nickrud> windows 286 here
[00:48] <daedra> rockbox eats battery life too!
[00:48] <amir_> Just something where I can keep contacts and notes of each contact.
[00:48] <nickrud> amir_: evolution has an address book, but that's about it as far as i know
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> amir_: check evolution
[00:48] <donkeyofdarkness> Kontact
[00:49] <Narissa> ./nod Kontact
[00:49] <donkeyofdarkness> http://kontact.kde.org/
[00:49] <amir_> yeah like evolution but bigger size notes where like in ACT i can clikc "Add Note" and stuff..
[00:49] <donkeyofdarkness> maybe run act under wine
[00:49] <daedra> i have lost faith in linux!
[00:50] <nickrud> faith doesn't belong in software
[00:50] <soundray> daedra: rockbox isn't linux
[00:50] <asathoor> daedra >> what's the problem?
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> daedra: You need to lose faith in itunes and other propietary software
[00:50] <ztomic> anybody good with debian packaging and scripts in them? I want to make a script to install data from a cdrom when the package is installed.
[00:50] <amir_> okay id love to the only problem is it's saying a bunch of stuff about ActiveX and .net Framework..
[00:50] <HackXP> I can connect fine to my dsl wireless using ubuntu.  I made a little connect script...but i enabled wpa security on it through windows, and now i can't ubuntu to connect...
[00:50] <Aintaer> Okay ddclient keeps updating my ip to the wrong ip
[00:50] <Narissa> Jack_Sparrow: Amen
[00:50] <amir_> How can i install these in wine?
[00:50] <donkeyofdarkness> first..
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> daedra: You said yourself it worked fine UNTIL itunes updated
[00:51] <donkeyofdarkness> sudo apt-get install wine
[00:51] <daedra> Jack_Sparrow: yeah sorry
[00:51] <soundray> !enter | donkeyofdarkness
[00:51] <ubotu> donkeyofdarkness: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:51] <_wall> hi
[00:51] <daedra> iTunes sucks :(
[00:51] <nickrud> amir_: find an older version of act, maybe
[00:51] <donkeyofdarkness> then wine /path/to/windows/executable
[00:51] <HackXP> Not sure in the connect script if I can put in the wpa password somewhere..
[00:51] <amir_> donkey you talking to me?
[00:51] <HackXP> ./connect belkin54g wpapass (this doesn't work)
[00:51] <mneptok> HackXP: what are you trying to accomplish?
[00:52] <donkeyofdarkness> I also like to install wine-doors because it installs some extra windows stuff
[00:52] <alber1> i made a group called firefox then, sudo chown :firefox /usr/bin/firefox, but chown doesn't have any effect... why is this?
[00:52] <donkeyofdarkness> yes
[00:52] <nickrud> itunes intentionally broke third party access to the new ones, did they hack back at the older ones too?
[00:52] <_Johny> asathoor, Take a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles
[00:52] <HackXP> mneptok, I am trying to connect to the internet with my wireless connection...which worked fine until i enabled wpa protection.
[00:52] <mneptok> alber1: there's no need to change permissions of firfefox files
[00:52] <mneptok> HackXP: static? DHCP? what?
[00:52] <Kde4> hi all
[00:52] <HackXP> mneptok, dhcp.
[00:52] <alber1> mneptok: there is cuz i only want a certain group to have web browser access
[00:52] <_Johny> Kde4, Hi
[00:52] <donkeyofdarkness> http://www.wine-doors.org/
[00:53] <ztomic> Where is a good place to learn script tricks like detecting files on cdrom?
[00:53] <Kde4> i install kde4 but i dont see it under gdm session, how can i add or start kde4 beta4 ?
[00:53] <HackXP> mneptok, If I disable security on the wireless modem..ubuntu connects fine...when i enable it..it can't connect...
[00:53] <mneptok> HackXP: will this machine use other networks? ever?
[00:53] <asathoor> ztomic >> ls -a
[00:53] <HackXP> mneptok, I run winxp and ubuntu.
[00:53] <Kde4> _Johny, any idea?
[00:53] <mneptok> HackXP: will this machine use other networks? ever?
[00:53] <HackXP> mneptok, no
[00:53] <_Johny> Kde4, nope
[00:53] <alber1> can anyone chown the group on /usr/bin/firefox? lol
[00:53] <ztomic> asathoor: hehe
[00:54] <donkeyofdarkness> prolly
[00:54] <jacob> does ubuntu support wpa wireless encryyption connections?
[00:54] <donkeyofdarkness> yes
[00:54] <Narissa> absolutly
[00:54] <Xenguy> alber1: I don't know why you'd want to, but man chgrp   ?
[00:54] <donkeyofdarkness> depends on the driver
[00:54] <mneptok> HackXP: so you want WPA authentication to only one wireless network, and the machine will only ever connect to that network. it will never change its connection. correct?
[00:54] <sizzam> jacob: yes, wep, wpa
[00:54] <dissection> jacob: Yes it does.
[00:54] <soundray> alber1: it's a link. chmod doesn't work on links.
[00:54] <_Johny> Kde4, There this support channel with a lot of nice people #kde
[00:54] <daedra> alber1: I can thinkof another way of solving your problem
[00:54] <soundray> alber1: (I mean symbolic links)
[00:54] <Kde4> _Johny, u right , but i thought it easer here
[00:54] <daedra> just add firefox to the group in the big group file
[00:54] <jacob> ubuntu version 6.10, i suppose that it didn't
[00:54] <Kde4> since i use ubuntu
[00:55] <HackXP> mneptok, Yes. The only reason I placed the wpa protection is to prevent my neighbors from using the wireless modem.
[00:55] <mneptok> Kde4: this channel is not for KDE beta questions
[00:55] <jacob> i have a book on ubuntu that dates up to version 6.10
[00:55] <_Johny> Kde4, Maybe #Kubuntu can be a help
[00:55] <soundray> alber1: what's the problem?
[00:55] <alber1> xenguy: chgrp also had no affect
[00:55] <sizzam> jacob: right, 6.10 didn't
[00:55] <soundray> alber1: are you reading me?
[00:55] <alber1> soundray: i can't change group ownership of /usr/bin/firefox
[00:55] <Kde4> mneptok, i know
[00:55] <Xenguy> alber1: what the other fellow said then
[00:55] <_Johny> Kde4, Ubuntu is using GNOME by default, I don't know whether anyone tried KDE 4 here :(
[00:55] <alber1> lol
[00:55] <alber1> ok sec
[00:55] <mneptok> HackXP: you want to use wpa-supplicant to generate a hashed passphrane file, then call that from /etc/network/interfaces
[00:55] <AngryElf_> does anyone now how to make my regular (analog) sound go out my digital output (SPDIF) ???
[00:55] <jacob> is it true about dell selling computers with ubuntu?
[00:55] <soundray> alber1: I told you, it's a symlink. Why do you want to change it?
[00:56] <renevannt> so why ubuntu over archlinux?
[00:56] <renevannt> I cant see why?
[00:56] <ztomic> you guys aren't very much help. Wheres the dev channel?
[00:56] <Kde4> _Johny, :) ok ill ask on kde
[00:56] <sizzam> jacob: yep, there are other vendors too, like system76.com for example
[00:56] <donkeyofdarkness> http://dell.com/ubuntu
[00:56] <Narissa> ztomic: what was teh question?
[00:56] <_Johny> Kde4, Give it a try as it's a nice channel
[00:56] <HackXP> mneptok, explain a little more, i am still learning this linux stuff.
[00:57] <soundray> renevannt: that's not a support question. Ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:57] <ztomic> Narissa: 1) anybody good with debian packaging and scripts in them? I want to make a script to install data from a cdrom when the package is installed.
[00:57] <ztomic> Narissa: 2) Where is a good place to learn script tricks like detecting files on cdrom?
[00:57] <jacob> ok, now somebody let me know, i'm new to linux, what is wine-doors?
[00:58]  * _Johny neither knows
[00:58] <jacob> that lets me install windows applications in linux?
[00:58] <sizzam> jacob: right, wine is a compatibility layer that lets you run some windows apps in linux
[00:58] <sizzam> jacob: wine-doors is built on top of that, you can get more info on it here:  http://www.wine-doors.org/wordpress/?page_id=2
[00:58] <_Johny> jacob, I suppose It's a set of preconfigured applications, just ready to be installed and launched with wine
[00:58] <donkeyofdarkness> and installs some things for you
[00:58] <jacob> are there two wines?
[00:59] <donkeyofdarkness> no
[00:59] <jacob> wine and wine-doors or is is just one?
[00:59] <_Johny> jacob, No
[00:59] <donkeyofdarkness> install both
[00:59] <sizzam> jacob: wine is one thing, other things use wine as a base
[00:59] <Terrance> I neet help setting up my Sprint Pantech card to connecto to the internet
[00:59] <_Johny> jacob, Just give it a try -:)
[00:59] <donkeyofdarkness> google's apps use wine
[00:59] <windego40> i cant figure out gtkpod....can someone tell me how to include host in this command, i think its all i need left to do?       sshfs root@<iphone's ip address>:/var/root/Media/ /media/ipod/
[00:59] <Narissa> ztomic: alright for 1. what kind of script are you trying to run, as n what OS do you want to gear this twords.  for 2. what kind of scripting are you looking for
[00:59] <jacob> ok, so wine and wine-doors are different, but much of the basic coding?
[01:00] <alber1> soundray/xenguy: i can change the group owner on /usr/lib/firefox which has the desired effect... except now when i run the shortcut from the gnome panel it no longer says "permission denied" it simply times out and does nothing with no error :(
[01:00] <amir_> doneky i just ran Wine-Doors, its building something.. does that mean its installing all the activex/.net framework things?
[01:00] <Narissa> I prefer wine and download winexs, just to make my life easier
[01:00] <ztomic> Narissa: both related. are you familiar with debian package scripts?
[01:00] <soundray> alber1: what was the original problem you were trying to solve?
[01:00] <_Johny> windego40, What's your problem precisely?
[01:00] <Narissa> ztomic: fairly
[01:00] <donkeyofdarkness> he first time wine-doors is executed it will build up a basic wine-drive. Currently this includes installing the most important of the microsoft corefonts, winegecko and mozilla activex control. Only one non-free component is included visual C++ runtime.
[01:00] <jacob> what's a wine that will install office 2003?
[01:01] <Narissa> jacob: the newest will do it
[01:01] <jacob> wine or wine-door?
[01:01] <donkeyofdarkness> so will crossover office
[01:01] <_Johny> Would it have any sense?
[01:01] <Narissa> jacob: both will so will crossover
[01:01] <windego40> im trying to mount my ipod from a forums im reading but whenever i enter this command "sshfs root@<iphone's ip address>:/var/root/Media/ /media/ipod/" its says missing host
[01:02] <bradv> windego40: can you ping the host?
[01:02] <jacob> Narissa: i tried wine, everything seemed fine upon installation, but i could find it in the directory of wine
[01:02] <_Johny> windego40, Are u trying to do it by in remote?
[01:02] <alber1> soundray: i want to limit who can and can't run firefox.  ive done this by adding firefox to a group
[01:02] <Narissa> jacob: /home/*user*/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/*.* should be somewhere in tehre
[01:02] <windego40> whats ping and remote? sorry im a little new to this
[01:02] <randorfer> hey anyone tried installing kde4 on vanilla ubuntu (not kubuntu) yet and feel like giving me a heads up on how to do it?
[01:02] <jacob> Narissa: i did, but it's empty
[01:02] <bradv> alber1: Just change the group then, not the user.
[01:03] <Terrance> where can i get information about how to set up my wireless card is a pantech card and de ISP is Sprint
[01:03] <ztomic> Narissa: I want to include a script to copy data that is on cd  in a deb package. I think it would be prerem.
[01:03] <alber1> bradv: i did :)
[01:03] <_Johny> windego40, What did you mean by saying you're trying to mount your ipod from the forums?
[01:03] <Bensel> Anyone have any idea why Ubuntu would be blocking FTP connections to this PC?
[01:03] <alber1> bradv: i can't change group owner on the symlink, so i have to change it on the app, but then the shortcut in the menu doesn't give a clean error "permission denied" instead it just times out which is bad user experience
[01:03] <windego40> or im just reading it and doing what it says
[01:03] <Narissa> jacob: are you ont he right user account
[01:03] <jacob> Narissa: yes
[01:03] <jnb> what is the command to open a file?
[01:03] <Bensel> I've just finished configuring my sixth FTP server, so I'm about certain it's Ubuntu's fault now.
[01:03] <kazol3> jnb: What type?
[01:04] <soundray> jnb: gnome-open
[01:04] <jnb> kazol3, .conf
[01:04] <jacob> Narissa, but i updated my operatings system to 7.10 freshly
[01:04] <ztomic> Narissa: the data is big (video and audio), and copyrighted material. So I dont want it to be in the package.
[01:04] <sizzam> Terrance: see if this article helps:  http://www.raincitystory.com/wp/2007/05/31/pantech-px-500-evdo-rev-a-card-on-linux/#comments
[01:04] <jacob> Narissa, i don't have those files anymore
[01:04] <randorfer> jnb:  nano *.conf
[01:04] <AngryElf_> does anyone now how to make my regular (analog) sound go out my digital output (SPDIF) ???
[01:04] <kazol3> jnb: Is it a system file?
[01:04] <Terrance> sizzam 10x
[01:04] <bradv> alber1: You could replace the symlink with a shell script: #!/bin/sh; /usr/lib/firefox-bin
[01:04] <Bensel> No matter which one I choose, I can't get incoming connections, but it works perfectly on Windows.
[01:04] <windego40> _Johny: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone im using that guide
[01:04] <kazol3> jnb: "gksudo gedit" is another option.
[01:04] <Narissa> ztomic: why not just go the more direct route with an autorun style script as a preempt, give conditions based on super user access to begin with.
[01:04] <alber1> bradv: hmm interesting idea...
[01:04] <jnb> thanks, both of you
[01:05] <bradv> alber1: If you give that 770 access then gksu will fail cleanly.
[01:05] <jnb> i'm trying to get compiz to work with my new 8.42.3 drivers
[01:05] <Narissa> jacob: it still should be there
[01:05] <ztomic> Narissa: Ok. I don't know how to do that but it sounds acceptable.
[01:05] <Narissa> anyone on jacobs end, his data should be there
[01:05] <RISKA> ;KK;
[01:06] <asathoor> anyone with a good idea on how to detect a hw problem..?
[01:06] <randorfer> hey anyone tried installing kde4 on vanilla ubuntu (not kubuntu) yet and feel like giving me a heads up on how to do it?
[01:06] <jacob> Narissa, i freshly installed ubuntu, i didn't get the upgrade online
[01:06] <alber1> bradv: yeah, the bash thing might work only problem with that is what happens when you try and update firefox
[01:06] <kazol3> I just used ndiswrapper instead of bcm43xx-fwcutter and it works MUCH greater!! Please suggest all users installing Broadcom wifi cards to use ndiswrapper instead of the default Ubuntu Restricted Package Manager.
[01:06] <soundray> asathoor: what was the problem with my advice?
[01:06] <Narissa> ztomic: build a cd gui right, set conditional commands to install everything like that, give user access instead of autoinstall
[01:06] <jacob> Narissa, the files are no longer there
[01:06] <mneptok> randorfer: this channel is not for KDE beta questions
[01:06] <gilbert> holaalguien habla español
[01:06] <bradv> alber1: Firefox updates itself without using apt, so it shouldn't touch the symlinks.
[01:06] <asathoor> soundray >> perhaps I missed your answr
[01:06] <Narissa> jacob: then you shoudl have to reinstall if you sis a fresh, data was more than likely removed
[01:06] <randorfer> mneptok:  fyi kde is rc status not beta anymore
[01:06] <mneptok> !es > gilbert
[01:06] <jacob> Narissa, i tried to install office 2003 a couple of times (2 or 3 times) and still doesn't work
[01:07] <kazol3> !es | gilbert
[01:07] <ubotu> gilbert: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[01:07] <alber1> bradv: ok that's good to know then...
[01:07] <graelin> what is a convnient way to search a file in Ubuntu?
[01:07] <mneptok> randorfer: it is not in any Ubuntu release.
[01:07] <soundray> asathoor: the problem is most likely in the RAM. Run memtest86 for a few hours
[01:07] <Narissa> jacob: one sec let me check
[01:07] <mneptok> randorfer: hence, it is not appropriate here
[01:07] <jacob> Narissa ok
[01:07] <asathoor> ok, thanx - I'll try
[01:07] <anzan> !botsnack
[01:07] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[01:07] <soundray> asathoor: do read the channel when you've asked a question
[01:07] <kazol3> graelin: Using the GUI, there should be an icon on the top panel with an orange magnifying glass over a computer screen.
[01:08] <asathoor> soundray >> sorry
[01:08] <kazol3> graelin: Or (a less convenient way) you could click Places...Search For Files.
[01:08] <ztomic> Narissa: I'm sorry. I get you but I am gonna need a lot of help doing that. I have thought about this a lot. I even tried to find some way to do an autorun but I simply don't know how. Is there an example on the internet that you know of or perhaps a pastebin?
[01:08] <soundray> asathoor: did you get it this time?
[01:08] <Narissa> jacob: http://frankscorner.org
[01:08] <asathoor> soundray >> yep, thanx - and trying...
[01:08] <gilbert_> tampico
[01:09] <asathoor> :)
[01:09] <graelin> thanks.. I'n looking for input.h header file.. not sure where that would be though.. used to slackware
[01:09] <Aintaer> does ddclient default its config file to /etc/ddclient.conf?
[01:09] <soundray> asathoor: if it runs without errors, it's best to leave it overnight at least.
[01:09] <_Johny> windego40, Did you put the IP adress?
[01:09] <Narissa> jacob: the instructions should be the same, I recently just installed 2007 the same way and it works
[01:10] <asathoor> ok
[01:10] <windego40> _Johny: yeah i put everything it says but it says im missing host and dont know how to add that into the command
[01:10] <Bensel> Anyone have any idea why Ubuntu would be blocking FTP connections to this PC?
[01:10] <Aintaer> how do I clear the dns cache?
[01:10] <bradv> windego40: What is the IP address? Did you put that in the command?
[01:10] <Narissa> ztomic: www.cdmenupro.com they talk about the functionality and hwo most of the autorun.inf files work
[01:11] <jacob> Narissa: do you know the difference between wine-doors and wine?
[01:11] <Narissa> jacob: besides the handy ui and some of the dev files, it's about the same
[01:12] <windego40> <IP_ADDRESS> and yeah i put it in the "root@<ip address>
[01:12] <noelferreira> is there any jre for amd64 with java plugin to put in ~/firefox/plugins/ folder'
[01:12] <noelferreira> ?
[01:12] <ztomic> Narissa: oh heck! I didn't know autrun.inf would work.
[01:12] <Narissa> ztomic: here you go found something for you  http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian/windows/howtocacdtwarahfm.htm  there is a link tthere that helps you
[01:12] <soundray> Bensel: you may have set firewall rules. Check with 'sudo iptables -L' -- how many lines of output do you get?
[01:12] <Narissa> ztomic: absolutly
[01:12] <bradv> windego40: And I asked you earlier if you could ping that address. Can you?
[01:12] <ztomic> Narissa: thanx, thats a lot of help.
[01:12] <Narissa> ztomic: in fact you can build an html interface easily and run the commands like that
[01:13] <_Johny> windego40, I'd try "man sshfs|grep -i host" So you can see what's the host in the command meaning
[01:13] <windego40> bradv: i dont know how i would do that
[01:13] <zach__> anyone else experience problems with shut down not fully shutting down?
[01:13] <bradv> windego40: Just use the ping command in a terminal: ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:13] <Bensel> soundray: 6
[01:13] <Narissa> zach_: only when I use windows 8)
[01:13] <Bensel> Well, 8.
[01:14] <Bensel> Including blank lines.
[01:14] <windego40> ok
[01:14] <soundray> Bensel: it's not that then -- this is the default setup.
[01:14] <soundray> Bensel: which ftp daemon have you installed?
[01:14] <zach__> Narissa, I've experienced it with both xubuntu and ubuntu
[01:14] <windego40> bradv: what that do? i ran it and its doing something
[01:14] <dissection> Can I have libshout2 and libshout3 both at the same time? libshout3 is not there in the repositories.
[01:14] <Bensel> Currently pureftpd
[01:14] <zach__> Narissa, so um... yeah
[01:14] <Bensel> But I've tried bunches over the last week.
[01:15] <noelferreira> ?
[01:15] <soundray> Bensel: what do you get when you try to connect?
[01:15] <_Johny> windego40, No, no man for that. Can you just paste the entire command, just as you put it?
[01:15] <noelferreira> is there any jre for amd64 with java plugin to put in ~/firefox/plugins/ folder'
[01:15] <ztomic> Narissa: I looked at the debian CD's and autrun.inf seemed geared toward windows so i didn't realize it would work on linux.
[01:15] <bradv> windego40: If you want to know what a command does and how to use it, enter man ping in the terminal.
[01:15] <Narissa> zach_: sorry for the synicism, so your shutting down and it halts
[01:15] <ztomic> Ubuntu rather
[01:15] <ztomic> Narissa: thanx again
[01:15] <Bensel> soundray: From elsewhere, a timeout; from the same machine, connection as expected.
[01:15] <Narissa> ztomic: absolutly, no problem 8) goo dluck to you bud.
[01:15] <jacob> i have concerns about PBASIC stamp editor, does anybody have PBASIC Stamp Editor in there linux system?
[01:15] <_Johny> bradv, He's just a begginer..
[01:15] <zach__> Narissa, it goes through shut down but hangs and never powers down
[01:16] <soundray> Bensel: is "elsewhere" on the LAN or on the internet?
[01:16] <Bensel> On the Internet.
[01:16] <bradv> _johny: I didn't mean to bite him. I'm trying to teach him to fish. ;)
[01:16] <Narissa> zach_: we talking laptop or desktop?
[01:16] <soundray> Bensel: have you set up incoming port forwarding on the router?
[01:16] <jacob> ...i want to know if i can program my code and then be able to transfer the code from the linux machine to my Stamp chip (EEPROM memory) (chips for electrical enginners)
[01:16] <ztomic> Narissa: this way, I can make it work on windows too... I think?
[01:16] <ztomic> hehe
[01:17] <_Johny> windego40, If you don't know what a given command mean, put "whatis <command>", that's should be shorter and easier
[01:17] <Bensel> soundray: Yup. FTP daemon stuff works perfectly on Windows.
[01:17] <Narissa> ztomic: so long as you are explicit enough with yoru conditions, absolutly
[01:17] <Altu60> is there a way I can start aviant window manager on startup?
[01:17] <Bensel> (but running the same FTP daemon using wine doesn't.)
[01:17] <ztomic> Narissa: time to work.
[01:17] <windego40> sshfs<EMAIL_ADDRESS>/var/root/Media/ /media/ipod/
[01:17] <_Johny> Altu60, Just adding it to the gnome-session aplet?
[01:18] <windego40> and ok thanks for the tips i really want to learn how to use linux extensively with commands
[01:18] <zach__> Narissa, laptop dell inspiron e1505
[01:18] <soundray> Bensel: apparently you've checked all the things that I can think of. Sorry I haven't been helpful.
[01:18] <jacob> never mind, i found my answer
[01:18] <Bensel> Thanks for trying, soundray :)
[01:19] <zach__> Narissa, I'm also having trouble tracking down the exact config I need to change so I can stop typing "sudo hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda" on every boot
[01:19] <Narissa> zach_: okay, so it goes through the shutdown, and appears to have completed yet doesn,'t autopower off.  Let me think about the last part
[01:20] <nosmofui> can anyone help me to create a script to download files with wget
[01:20] <Aintaer> can somebody ping aielone.servegame.org and tell me what IP they're getting?
[01:20] <Lounge> there's something really strange with linux-image-2.6.22-14-386. it's reading the cpu as only one processor - missing a core
[01:20] <Lounge> any1 else have this issue?
[01:20] <soundray> nosmofui: do you know about wget -i ?
[01:20] <nosmofui> mm nop
[01:21] <salah> Hello. I installed mscorefonts to get some microsoft fonts for viewing at web. Now is the monospace font totally screwed up, and that's what I use as default for Ubuntu. And the package fails to remove. Any idea how I can get my default fonts back?
[01:21] <Bensel> Aintaer: <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:21] <soundray> nosmofui: it takes a file as input that contains a list of URLs, which will be downloaded in turn. Would that be applicable to your problem?
[01:21] <ouellettesr> hello what option do I use with rmdir if the dir is not empty?
[01:21] <Aintaer> Bensel: thanks
[01:21] <Bensel> np
[01:21] <nosmofui> yes
[01:22] <_Johny> windego40, try this way ;  sshfs root@<IP_ADDRESS>:/var/root/Media/ /media/ipod/
[01:22] <peterbilt> ouellettesr: rm -rf
[01:22] <ouellettesr> thanks peterbilt
[01:22] <noelferreira> is there any jre for amd64 with java plugin to put in ~/firefox/plugins/ folder'
[01:22] <zach__> ouellettesr, just be careful with that command
[01:22] <nosmofui> i create a list... then i call ot form wget??
[01:22] <soundray> ouellettesr: use rm -r instead
[01:22] <zach__> ouellettesr, you throw a sudo on the start and a slash on the end... you've destroyed your file system
[01:23] <mneptok> noelferreira: sudo apt-get install icedtea-java7-plugin
[01:23] <windego40> _Johny: its doing doing that ping thing
[01:23] <ouellettesr> thanks zach__
[01:23] <peterbilt> ouellettesr: yes, be cautious
[01:23] <dinkle> hey i installed awn and i can no longer access my compiz fusion settings help??
[01:23] <ouellettesr> OK SOUDRAY
[01:23] <soundray> nosmofui: you create a list of URLs in file 'url-list', then you call 'wget -i url-list'
[01:23] <Narissa> zach_: well I cannot recall the device loading file, though sda1 shouldn't be causing that much of an issue, unless you actually do have the drive, so far as teh power down, have you checked your bios as well as your power settings in ubuntu?
[01:23] <Girf> Hey, I get an error on Ubuntu 6.10 startup, and can't figure out the problem
[01:23] <Girf> "Cannot Allocate Resource Region 7 on bridge 0000:00:04:00" and the same on resource region 8
[01:23] <noelferreira> mneptok, i instaled it but i couldn't find the java lib file. where is it?
[01:23] <_Johny> windego40, Does the error pop up  anymore?
[01:24] <CADF> Hi. I've got a bit of a problem.. every time a program opens a file browser dialog, it crashes. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?
[01:24] <soundray> nosmofui: 'man wget' reveals such secrets
[01:24] <nosmofui> im reading that
[01:24] <nosmofui> ok
[01:24]  * N3bunel away
[01:24] <CADF> This doesn't seem to effect KDE applications.
[01:25] <ouellettesr> any reason why I get this error? kevin@railcar:~$ rm -rf gallery2
[01:25] <ouellettesr> rm: cannot chdir from `.' to `gallery2': Permission denied
[01:25] <dinkle> anyone? i tried reinstalling compiz but still cant get it
[01:25] <salah> Or, how do I remove a broken package?
[01:25] <zach__> Narissa, I wouldn't even know where to start
[01:25] <sFEARs> dpkg --autoclean?
[01:25] <_Johny> Girf, It seems to be a communicate from kernel. Try sudo grep [the error] /var/log/kernel
[01:25] <Girf> Thing is I can't get into the OS at all
[01:25] <Narissa> zach_: alright let's start with linux then.  What Gui are you using KDe, Gnome, XFCE, Fluxbox, Blackbox?
[01:25] <windego40> _Johny: it hasnt stopped that ping command i ran
[01:26] <Girf> It hits that error, continues, then goes to a black screen and stays there
[01:26] <Narissa> brb
[01:26] <zach__> Narissa, I'm using a fresh install of xubuntu
[01:26] <zach__> Narissa, xfce
[01:26]  * Narissa is AWAY at 20:26:19 : Not behind the keyboard
[01:26] <_Johny> windego40, look, I found this http://blog.adaniels.nl/?p=50
[01:26] <jedix> I need help getting a printer working in gusty
[01:26] <sFEARs> when i boot up i have a link to my windows partition that shows up on the desktop.. how do i disable that?
[01:26] <soundray> Girf: I don't think the two problems are related. Is this a fresh install, or was it working previously?
[01:26] <ouellettesr> windego40: you didn't pecify how many times to ping it, hit ctrl+c
[01:26] <sFEARs> i see it in fstab... but i don't think i wanna delete that line
[01:27] <Girf> It's a fresh install, and the same exact problem happened when I installed Kubuntu
[01:27] <jedix> can someone help me with a usb printer issue? cups is saying things are printing, but they aren't... the data light on my printer never blinks
[01:27] <_Johny> Girf, What's your Graphic Card?
[01:27] <soundray> Girf: have you tried a more recent version? 7.10 would be current...
[01:27] <sFEARs> Girf... have you tried booting up using a different kernel
[01:27] <Girf> Meant to say 7.10, sorry
[01:27] <sFEARs> my laptop won't boot using the real time kernel.. gets stuck half way thru the startup splash
[01:27] <Girf> _Johny: A crap ATI integrated laptop card
[01:27]  * Narissa is back after 0 d 0 h 1 m 39 s
[01:28] <dinkle> or maybe point me in the right direction?
[01:28] <Girf> ATI Radeon XPress 200+
[01:28] <jacob> wine and winehq are the same?
[01:28] <_Johny> not so bad
[01:28] <Narissa> jacob: yup
[01:28] <soundray> Girf: that one works reasonably well with the opensource driver -- usually
[01:28] <MI123645> hey again
[01:28] <jedix> so.... anyone have any help for my printing issues?
[01:28] <soundray> Girf: can you get to a text console with Ctrl-Alt-F2 ?
[01:28] <jedix> please
[01:29] <jedix> it's driving me nuts
[01:29] <windego40> ouelettesr: thanks
[01:29] <sledgehammer> how do i fix compiz-fusion so when I enable it I get my window's borders??
[01:29] <jedix> it works on my laptop.. that isn't up to date
[01:29] <Girf> soundray: I doubt it, but I can try
[01:29] <MI123645> soundray: I turned off ACPI but i got another error message
[01:29] <windego40> _Johny: ok ill try what it says
[01:29] <Girf> I've been able to install Edgy Eft sucesfully on this laptop previously
[01:29] <soundray> MI123645: did you turn of ACPI or APIC? Major difference...
[01:29] <_Johny> Girf, Try [sudo grep \(E) /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:29] <slliness> hello
[01:30] <sFEARs> hi
[01:30] <Girf> Kay, I gotta go reboot to see if I can get to a console
[01:30] <soundray> Girf: hold on...
[01:30] <jedix> haha
[01:30] <MI123645> soundray: i did noacpi and nolapic together
[01:30] <soundray> MI123645: noacpi is pointless. It's got to be noapic
[01:30] <Narissa> zach_: so you are using XFCE.  I am normally better with KDE but I think I can wing it.  try sudo xfce-power-manager in a terminal and make sure your settings are good there.  I had to turn off the power saving stuff to get my laptop streamline myself
[01:30] <jedix> can someone please help me with my printer?
[01:30] <slliness> how is ati drivers installation in gutsy is ati still rdiculas or no
[01:30] <MI123645> soundray: ok ill try noapic
[01:31] <CADF> Hi. Whenever a Gnome application opens a file picker dialog, it closes instantly. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?
[01:31] <Narissa> slliness: you can use a program called Envy to make that install much easier
[01:31] <shadeofgrey> cabn anybody here htell me if Ubuntu's Nvidia drivers can now sustain a 8800 Ultra card and something as large as a 30" Screen?
[01:31] <nosmofui> thanks soundray.. works perfectly
[01:31] <slliness> s/rdiculas/ridiculas
[01:31] <slliness> Narissa, works good?
[01:31] <databuddy> zomg
[01:31] <_Johny> windego40, I'll have to go by in a moment, I'm afraid I can't help you with this issue. If you had to, you could try to paste the error texe in google , along with ("), maybe someone has alredy had this problem. Good luck anyway -:)
[01:31] <Bensel> CADF: Which window manager are you using?
[01:31] <soundray> Narissa: don't recommend envy please (slliness)
[01:32] <databuddy> i'm so close to getting ubuntu to work via flash :>
[01:32] <soundray> !envy | slliness
[01:32] <ubotu> slliness: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[01:32] <Narissa> slliness: or you could do it manually
[01:32] <windego40> _Johny: ok thanks a lot for the help though
[01:32] <Bensel> *Restricted
[01:32] <CADF> Bensel: I believe I'm using /usr/bin/metacity.
[01:32] <slliness> I thought the restricted driver was for nividia only
[01:32] <noelferreira> mneptok, i instaled it but i couldn't find the java lib file. where is it?
[01:32] <slliness> opps nvidia
[01:33] <Narissa> soundray: it'snever given me a problem what's the issue if you don't mind me asking
[01:33] <Bensel> CADF: Hrm. I had the same problem a while ago, but I was using XFCE. Though I can't remember if that was really the reason.
[01:33] <soundray> slliness: no, there is a restricted driver for ATI as well -- fglrx
[01:33] <Bensel> (and by a while I mean like two years.)
[01:33] <soundray> Narissa: it's been known to break systems.
[01:33] <soundray> !worksforme | Narissa
[01:33] <ubotu> Narissa: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[01:33]  * _Johny is using it.. /:
[01:34] <Narissa> soundray: oh, okaybe
[01:34] <CADF> Hmm.. maybe I should just reformat my Ubuntu partition and reinstall.
[01:34] <PeterPan^> http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/916/snapshot1du0.jpg              how to stop
[01:34] <sledgehammer> can someone help me get boarders while using compiz-fusion
[01:34] <Narissa> though the last part was unnecessary, but okay
[01:34] <Lanken> I'm behind an HTTP proxy and I can't get sound-juicer to retrieve metadata for a CD.  I ran it in a terminal, and this is the error message:
[01:34] <slliness> they do that with those helper programs casue sometimes they break a lot of things Narissa they say this with automatix as well
[01:34] <Lanken> (sound-juicer:7280): WARNING **: mb_SetProxyCreds() not found, no proxy authorisation possible
[01:34] <_Johny> |paste|Lanken
[01:35] <_Johny> !paste|Lanken
[01:35] <ubotu> Lanken: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:35] <sFEARs> sledgehammer.. i'm having the same problem
[01:35] <Narissa> slliness: I wasn't arguing the point really, and am just happy it works for me personally.  the last par tthe bot thing I felt was a but harsh but eh,
[01:35] <Lanken> _Johny: I think it's a small enough paste to be channel-permissible
[01:35] <noelferreira> is there any jre for amd64 with java plugin to put in ~/firefox/plugins/ folder'
[01:35] <sFEARs> i think there's a dpkg ./configure ??/apps/compiz command to run but i can't remember the whole string
[01:35] <_Johny> Lanken, You're right...sorry
[01:35] <sledgehammer> noelferreira,
[01:35] <zach__> Narissa, there's no xfce-power-manager... though I could install a gnome one
[01:36] <PeterPan^> ?
[01:36] <noelferreira> yes sledgehammer
[01:36] <sFEARs> something to do with the window manager
[01:36] <zach__> Narissa, if i can find the right boot scripts to edit I might be able to fix this
[01:36] <slliness> soundray, so it works the same as the restricted drivers for nvidia the whole point and click thing at top of screen
[01:36] <sledgehammer> you using gutsy?
[01:36] <sFEARs> yup
[01:36] <Narissa> zach_: I think at this juncture due to me not being super familiar with XFCE someone else may wish to tackle this.
[01:36] <soundray> slliness: yes
[01:36] <Narissa> besides that I have to go anyway unfrotunatly, am at work
[01:36] <sledgehammer> noelferreira, are you using gutsy?
[01:36] <mneptok> zach__: have you asked in #xfce or #xubuntu ?
[01:37] <noelferreira> yes sledgehammer
[01:37] <soundray> noelferreira: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java -- scroll down, there is a section about amd64
[01:37] <zach__> mneptok, xubuntu is dead right now
[01:37] <slliness> soundray, I used to have terrible issues with ati installation
[01:37] <zach__> mneptok, i'll try xfce
[01:37] <_Johny> Good night everybody -:)
[01:37] <sledgehammer> then use icedteajava7
[01:37] <mneptok> noelferreira: i already answered you
[01:37] <PeterPan^> can any one hear me
[01:37] <slliness> soundray, that is good news does compiz play nicely with ati?
[01:37] <soundray> slliness: the installation should be smooth sailing now. How well it works is another question.
[01:37] <noelferreira> mneptok, no you didn't. tou didn't say what lib file to use
[01:37] <sFEARs> so how do we get window borders back while using compiz
[01:37] <Ildjarn> PeterPan^: No, but we can see what you're typing.
[01:38] <mneptok> noelferreira: what?
[01:38] <dinkle> can anyone tell me why i wouldn't be able to enable custom compiz settings in appearance?
[01:38] <mneptok> noelferreira: sudo apt-get install icedtea-java7-plugin
[01:38] <sFEARs> was i on the right track with the ./configure
[01:38] <mneptok> noelferreira: done.
[01:38] <sledgehammer> mneptok, icedtea is the only valid working java in gutsy
[01:38] <soundray> slliness: sorry, I don't do compiz
[01:38] <windego40> night _Johny
[01:38] <noelferreira> no mneptok IT'S NOT DONE
[01:38] <mneptok> noelferreira: yes, it is
[01:38] <sledgehammer> I worked with gutsy's java
[01:38] <MI123645> soundray: i put in noapic but then it goes back to the original "running local boot scripts" problem
[01:38] <slliness> soundray, ok thanks anyway
[01:38] <Ildjarn> *read
[01:38] <PeterPan^> Ildjarn can you help then
[01:38] <mneptok> noelferreira: there's no "lib file" you need to domnload
[01:38] <noelferreira> mneptok, do you use amd64?
[01:38] <mneptok> noelferreira: yes.
[01:38] <Girf> Umm, wow
[01:38] <noelferreira> mneptok, not download but link it
[01:38] <Ildjarn> PeterPan^: Try asking your question
[01:39] <Girf> ctrl alt f2
[01:39] <Girf> Just fixed my install
[01:39] <Girf> Booted me into the login screen
[01:39] <mneptok> noelferreira: link what?
[01:39] <Girf> Thanks, guys
[01:39] <PeterPan^> Ildjarn  http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/916/snapshot1du0.jpg              how to stop the other apt
[01:39] <noelferreira> so mneptok: open flyordie and play a little chess for me please.
[01:39] <soundray> MI123645: another option you might try is 'pci=noacpi'. I think the URL from ubotu's factoid has a few other suggestions as well.
[01:39] <mneptok> noelferreira: does the app throw errors?
[01:39] <MI123645> ok
[01:39] <Ildjarn> PeterPan^: Do you have apt-get running in a terminal?
[01:40] <slliness> soundray, have you used xubuntu?
[01:40] <Terrance> Im running kernel 2.6.22-14-generic is that the newest one ?
[01:40]  * mneptok is not installing random stuff for non-paying customers ;)
[01:40] <noelferreira> of course it doesn.t have the lib it needs mneptok
[01:40] <JoeThomas> Hi, I ran the wrong parameters for ./configure and now tried it again, and keep getting  'mod_deflate has been requested but can not be built due to prerequisite failures'
[01:40] <slliness> soundray, or xfce
[01:40] <MI123645> soundray: should i just use that alone? or should i use other parameters?
[01:40] <soundray> slliness: I have it on an old machine, but I don't use it much
[01:40] <PeterPan^> no
[01:40] <mneptok> noelferreira: then that app does not work with IcedTea. use i386.
[01:40] <noelferreira> lol
[01:40] <PeterPan^> what will Alt-F2 and put in  kdesu adept_manager        do
[01:40] <soundray> MI123645: try them individually, and if that doesn't help, try combinations.
[01:41] <santh> when i connect the external hard disc , error: cannot mount the volume plz help me
[01:41] <MI123645> ok
[01:41] <soundray> MI123645:  it can turn into real work...
[01:41] <MI123645> soundray: :(
[01:41] <RISKA> RIS_KA
[01:41] <Ildjarn> PeterPan^: It will run it with administrator rights
[01:41] <RISKA>
[01:41] <Terrance> whats the newest kernel for ubuntu ?
[01:41] <RISKA> .
[01:41] <soundray> MI123645: you could search the web for installation reports on machines with your motherboard.
[01:42] <PeterPan^> k
[01:42] <MI123645> soundray: ill do that
[01:42] <santh>  when i connect the external hard disc , error: cannot mount the volume plz help me
[01:42] <JohnMM> Terrance: the newest kernel is obtained from kernel.or
[01:42] <JohnMM> *kernel.org
[01:42] <Bensel> When I nmap port 21 from elsewhere, it says the port is filtered
[01:42] <slliness> soundray, there is a weather applet for xfce that I would like to use in ubuntu cause weather report 2.20.0 suck and xfce uses gnomea bit so I thought it may be possible
[01:43] <Bensel> When presumably it should be open.
[01:43] <slliness> gnome a
[01:43] <DHINESH> santh: can u find the drive by typing --  fdisk -l
[01:43] <Bensel> Is there any way to make Ubuntu have the port just be open?
[01:43] <JohnMM> Bensel: it is possible that it is your ISP filtering the port
[01:43] <Bensel> JohnMM: It's not.
[01:43] <mneptok> Bensel: Ubuntu does not block any ports by default
[01:44] <JohnMM> Bensel: plenty of ISP's filter that port, it is definitely possible
[01:44] <Bensel> FTP serving works fine in Windows.
[01:44] <mneptok> on port 21?
[01:44] <santh> s dhinesh
[01:44] <Bensel> Aye, mneptok.
[01:44] <JohnMM> ah
[01:44] <mneptok> Bensel: what ftpd?
[01:44] <Ildjarn> Hm, everyone says Ubuntu does not block any ports by default. That is strange, since my ports could not be accessed until I installed firestarter and opened them.
[01:44] <zim> hi all
[01:45] <JohnMM> hi
[01:45] <mneptok> Ildjarn: trust me. Ubuntu has no active firewall rules in a clean install.
[01:45] <DHINESH> santh: then try with mount command...like mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ntfs
[01:45] <Bensel> mneptok: currently pureftpd
[01:45] <zim> how can i start a perl script at startup
[01:45] <soundray> Ildjarn: it doesn't block them, but it doesn't open them (=run any services) either
[01:45] <coeus82> hello, how do I format my USB pen drive on ubuntu?
[01:45] <Bensel> Though I've tried many others to see if they were the problem.
[01:45] <mneptok> Bensel: accessible from the internal network?
[01:45] <JohnMM> zim add it to /etc/rc
[01:45] <Bensel> mneptok: Yup.
[01:45] <mcquaid> anyone here use jinzora?
[01:45] <pr1r> hello again everyone.... im still having the same problem... my computer knows that i have a nvidia geforce fx 5200 card in the agp slot but ubuntu loads on my pci video card... how do i get it to run on the other card?
[01:45] <mneptok> Bensel: and you forwarded port 21 through your router to the IP of the Ubuntu machine?
[01:46] <Ildjarn> soundray: So in other words, they need to be opened.
[01:46] <mneptok> Ildjarn: no
[01:46] <Bensel> mneptok: Yup.
[01:46] <zim> JohnMM so if my perl script is myperlscript.pl what do i add
[01:46] <soundray> Ildjarn: no
[01:46] <JohnMM> perl myperlscript.pl zim
[01:46] <mneptok> Bensel: telnet to port 21 at your IP address
[01:46] <JohnMM> add it to /etc/rc
[01:47] <Bensel> mneptok: It all works from the same machine
[01:47] <JohnMM> (maybe called rc.local)
[01:47] <Ildjarn> mneptok, soundray: Then how come my ports were not accessible after a default install? I had to add a policy in firestarer. Only then they were accessible.
[01:47] <Bensel> nmap shows 21 opened, ftp can log in, etc.
[01:47] <santh> when i tried it only root can do that ? then what do plz help me i am new to ubuntu
[01:47] <heavben> how can you check to see if 3d graphics is working in your installation?
[01:47] <Aintaer> what does nmap do?
[01:47] <Ildjarn> mneptok, soundray: From outside, that is.
[01:47] <Bensel> It scans ports.
[01:47] <JohnMM> santh: append sudo to beginning of command
[01:47] <Aintaer> can you scan yourself?
[01:47] <Bensel> To see if they're open/closed/filtered.
[01:47] <Bensel> Aintaer: Yup.
[01:47] <loguser1> no use with kdesu
[01:47] <Aintaer> How do I do that?
[01:47] <soundray> Ildjarn: ports aren't accessible unless there is a service that runs behind them.
[01:48] <mneptok> Bensel: does Ubuntu have the *exact same internal IP address* as Windows? if not, your forward will not work.
[01:48] <Bensel> Aintaer: install nmap, then run nmap localhost
[01:48] <DHINESH> santh: if u press fdisk -l what it is showing ?
[01:48] <Bensel> mneptok: Also yes.
[01:48] <coeus82> how do I format my USB pen drive on ubuntu?
[01:48] <zim> JohnMM /etc/rc?.d if I want it to start after everthing else ie last
[01:48] <Aintaer> Isn't there like, 65536 ports to run through?
[01:48] <mneptok> Bensel: pastebin your interfaces file
[01:48] <JohnMM> zim: yeah
[01:48] <heavben> i have a radeon 8500, it says its supported but dont know if its using acceleration or not, it feels sluggish on my system
[01:48] <zim> JohnMM which one
[01:49] <santh> Disk /dev/sdc: 80.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>6 bytes
[01:49] <santh> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[01:49] <santh> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[01:49] <santh> Disk identifier: 0xf7b5ba23
[01:49] <santh>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:49] <santh> /dev/sdc1               1        9729    78148161    7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:49] <mneptok> !paste santh
[01:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste santh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <JohnMM> zim, edit /etc/init.d/rc.local
[01:49] <mneptok> !paste > santh
[01:49] <Bensel> mneptok: http://pastebin.com/m5d8bae94
[01:49] <sFEARs> heavben... try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:49] <th0rv4ld> heavben: You have an ATI card. You're going to get ganked by *nix, no matter what.
[01:49] <santh> dhinesh help me
[01:49] <zim> JohnMM ty
[01:49] <JohnMM> zim: np :)
[01:49] <Ildjarn> soundray: I did have a service running.
[01:49] <lonran> i have rebooted and cant see any file that was on the desktop, cant even open menu with the second mouse button. what can be wrong?
[01:49] <mneptok> Bensel: that is using DHCP
[01:50] <DHINESH> santh: so /dev/sdc1 is ur external hdd s ?
[01:50] <mneptok> Bensel: you have your DHCP server set to assign the same IP to a certain MAC address?
[01:50] <Bensel> mneptok: It's reserved in the router.
[01:50] <Bensel> I do, yes.
[01:50] <santh> yes
[01:50] <mneptok> Bensel: does "ifconfig" agree with you?
[01:50] <Bensel> mneptok: Aye.
[01:51] <mneptok> Bensel: then i suspect a pureftpd misconfiguration
[01:51] <DHINESH> santh: so go to terminal ...and type as > mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/ntfs
[01:51] <zim> JohnMM before of after "exit 0"
[01:51] <JohnMM> before
[01:51] <DHINESH> santh: then go ntfs dirctory and find the external hdd content
[01:51] <Bensel> mneptok: None of the ftpd's I've tried have worked :S
[01:51] <Bensel> But I'll try pokint pureftpd around some more.
[01:52] <sFEARs> DHINESH.. when i boot up i have a link to my ntfs partition on my desktop.. how do i disable that?
[01:52] <Bensel> * poking
[01:52] <JohnMM> Bensel, try reading the man page
[01:52] <zim> JohnMM and in the comments it talks about multiuser runlevel will this run if im not logged in ?
[01:52] <sFEARs> fstab mounts it to a folder which is good.. but i don't what it on my desktop
[01:52] <santh> permission denied
[01:52] <JohnMM> zim: it should
[01:52] <zim> multiuser runlevel ty
[01:53] <JohnMM> np
[01:53] <zim> JohnMM ty
[01:53] <JohnMM> np
[01:53] <Bensel> mneptok: Thanks for trying :)
[01:53] <mneptok> Bensel: not to mention the idea of using FTP in 2007 is rather disgusting ;)
[01:53] <JohnMM> what's better then ftp?
[01:53] <JohnMM> :o
[01:53] <slliness> xfce4-weather-plugin is possble to install in gnome without installing a whole bunch of dependencies?
[01:53] <JohnMM> :P
[01:53] <mneptok> JohnMM: the word "than" for one thing ;)
[01:54] <JohnMM> lol
[01:54] <santh> permission denied is displayed what to do ?
[01:54] <santh> permission denied is displayed what to do ?
[01:54] <Bensel> mneptok: I have to use it, there's someone I need to transfer files with for whom every single other protocol known to man screws up :3
[01:54] <DHINESH> santh : try with > sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/ntfs
[01:54] <JohnMM> santh: append sudo to beginning of command
[01:54] <windego40> WOOHOO i finally mounted my ipod and its working :D
[01:54] <mneptok> santh: do not repeat. do not paste. last warning.
[01:54] <mneptok> Bensel: SFTP?
[01:55] <Bensel> It's a non-technical user P:
[01:55] <Ildjarn> Can I configure notification area to display my icons in a specific order each time?
[01:55] <mneptok> Bensel: Filezilla?
[01:55] <santh> only root can do that message displayed help plzzzzz
[01:55] <JohnMM> you could always purchase a cpanel license if you have trouble managing a linux server
[01:56] <JoeThomas> After I run make install, I can delete the source folder correct?
[01:57] <JohnMM> correct JoeThomas
[01:57] <DShepherd> JoeThomas, its not wise to do that... make uninstall removes the program
[01:58] <sFEARs> rename the directory
[01:58] <sFEARs> see if everything still works correctally.. if it does, go ahead and delete it
[01:58] <new> what application do I use for VPN ?
[01:58] <crdlb> it will always work without the source directory
[01:58] <sFEARs> just hope you don't have to recompile
[01:58] <JoeThomas> well i did apache2.2 from source, it works fine.
[01:58] <JoeThomas> alright just checking.
[01:58] <JoeThomas> I'm keeping the tarball, just not the folder.
[01:59] <crdlb> however removing the source directory will take away the ability to uninstall
[01:59] <JohnMM> you don't need the source folder ever after doing a make install unless you want to do make uninstall
[01:59] <slliness> xfce4-weather-plugin is it  possble to install in gnome without installing a whole bunch of dependencies? or is there any other good applets for gnome as weather report 2.20.0 sucks 4 me
[01:59] <JoeThomas> Can I compress the source folder to save a bit of space though?
[01:59] <new> what proram do I use to make a VPN connection?
[01:59] <JohnMM> JoeThomas: of course
[01:59] <JoeThomas> JohnMM: okay thanks
[01:59] <JoeThomas> Thanks everyone else too
[01:59] <JohnMM> np
[01:59] <Bensel> Hrm. It's not a misconfiguration it seems.
[02:00] <Bensel> SSH is also filtered.
[02:00] <JohnMM> sounds like your isp
[02:00] <Bensel> Again, it works perfectly in Windows.
[02:00] <JohnMM> well that doesn't make sense
[02:00] <Bensel> On the same machine, with the same router settings.
[02:01] <JohnMM> that's odd
[02:01] <Templar> can the same icon themes be installed on xubuntu as ubuntu?
[02:01] <mneptok> Bensel: it is not Ubuntu filtering anything, unless you specifically enabled that.
[02:01] <JohnMM> no, gnome themes do not work in kde
[02:01] <JohnMM> (Templar
[02:01] <JohnMM> *)
[02:01] <mneptok> JohnMM: he said "Xubuntu" ;)
[02:01] <new> anyone have any suggestions for connecting to M$ VPN?
[02:02] <Bensel> mneptok: I can't for the life of me remember ever changing anything related to filtering things.
[02:02] <Templar> did u mean kubuntu
[02:02] <JohnMM> what gui does Xubuntu run?
[02:02] <mneptok> new: yeah, tell your netadmins to use IPsec and not PPTP
[02:02] <mneptok> JohnMM: XFCE
[02:02] <JohnMM> ah
[02:02] <JohnMM> well I don't believe gnome templates work in XFCE either
[02:02] <JohnMM> but I could be wrong about that one
[02:03] <santh> how to enter as root in terminal mode tell that command
[02:03] <mneptok> sudo
[02:03] <Templar> johnmm - cheers
[02:03] <JohnMM> ><; SUDO
[02:03] <mneptok> ess you dee oh
[02:03] <JohnMM> Templar: np
[02:03] <santh> johnmm help
[02:03] <mneptok> sudo
[02:03] <JohnMM> SUDO SUDO SUDO santh
[02:03] <JohnMM> for the millionth time
[02:03] <mneptok> santh: sudo. sudo. sudo. sudo.
[02:03] <new> mneptok: thanks smartass
[02:03] <DShepherd> !sudo | santh
[02:03] <ubotu> santh: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:03] <_zach_> you could always set a password for root :-P
[02:03] <_zach_> and just use "su" to login to root
[02:04] <_zach_> though that's arguably less secure
[02:04] <Bensel> But thanks for trying though, guys :3
[02:04] <JohnMM> np, that's a weird one Bensel
[02:04] <Bensel> I'll sift through config files to see if I can find anything suspect.
[02:05] <dkulchenko> i can't load any games on my computer
[02:05] <santh> connecting my external hard disc it shows unable to mount what to do johnmm
[02:05] <JohnMM> ...
[02:05] <dkulchenko> when i click on them in the menu, nothing happens
[02:05] <crdlb> Templar: gnome and xfce use the same Icon and Application theme formats
[02:05] <dkulchenko> if i do it in the command line, it just executes and does not do anything
[02:05] <crdlb> just diffent Window Border theme formats
[02:05] <slliness> I installed avast4linux for my dual boot situation and cannot see it anywhere
[02:06] <crdlb> different*
[02:06] <JohnMM> santh: read this very carefully and follow the following step by step, this will solve your question... 1) type fdisk -l, match the /dev/name with the capacity of the drive 2) do a sudo mount /dev/name /mnt/something
[02:07] <edj> hello can some help me with some problems concerning kiba-dock??
[02:08] <billenium> bbl
[02:08] <ari_stress> hi hi :D
[02:08] <ouellettesr> hello, which port do I need to forward for rdesktop?
[02:09] <edj> anyone?
[02:10] <PJIRCtest> Kubuntu forever!
[02:10] <bradv_> ouellettesr: rdesktop is a client. You shouldn't need to forward any port. On the server side, you will need to open a port depending on what you are using (Windows Terminal Services, etc.)
[02:11] <edj> some help with kiba-dock??
[02:11] <inversekinetix> does anyone know where I can get help installing mame and mess?  the irc channels on here are useless
[02:11] <santh> mount: only root can do that. what to do johnmm
[02:11] <edj> Hello
[02:11] <ouellettesr> bradv_: so If im going to connect to my friend windows pc to help him, im the one that has to open the port?
[02:12] <bradv_> ouellettesr: No, he does. He's running the server. Check the documentation for remote desktop in Windows.
[02:12] <ouellettesr> right, that's what I was asking
[02:12] <ouellettesr> I need to know the port number
[02:12] <ouellettesr> its 3389 I've got it thanks
[02:12] <mike3_> ouellettesr, no..... have him do a remote assistance request and make sure port 3900 is open on his computer. I think it's 3900 RDP uses.
[02:13] <edj> anybody can help me with kiba-dock??
[02:13] <mike3_> 3389 that's it
[02:13] <ouellettesr> mike3_: how can he send me a request when im on ubuntu
[02:13] <D-Elite> can ubuntu cook a mean turkey on thursday?
[02:13] <pyrak> how do i use wifi radar to connect to a network with a WAP key?
[02:13] <mike3_> ouellettesr, via e-mail request.. Under Help/Support
[02:14] <mike3_> ouellettesr, He can e-mail you the xml file. Open it up in kedit or whatever and copy the link location....
[02:14] <ouellettesr> mike3_: ok thanks
[02:14] <edj> anyone know how to get rid of the black and clear bars in kibadock??
[02:14] <D-Elite> Edj, im running kiba, i dont see that
[02:14] <D-Elite> edj, is it populated with icons yet?
[02:14] <edj> i have no idea what went wrong?
[02:15] <edj> yes
[02:15] <slliness> how do I change .png to .svg
[02:15] <D-Elite> edj, have you tried messing with the kibasettings?
[02:15] <slliness> gimp?
[02:15] <edj> yea it doesnt seem to help
[02:15] <edj> and i tried to upgrade the gset-kiba
[02:15] <D-Elite> edj, you got me on that one. i personally dont like it to much
[02:15] <inversekinetix> can anyone help me installing the latest versions of MAME and MESS?
[02:15] <edj> but cant seem to find it
[02:15] <RISKA> allow
[02:15] <RISKA> cay
[02:15] <bulmer> slliness-> try inkscape
[02:16] <bradv_> slliness: png is a raster drawing, svg is a vector format. You will need to find something to trace what you need. Inkscape may help you.
[02:16] <D-Elite> edj, sometimes it looses minimized windows and i have to ALT-TAB to find them
[02:16] <edj> what other docks are good?
[02:16] <D-Elite> edj, this is the only one ive tried
[02:16] <D-Elite> edj, there are a couple more tho.
[02:16] <slliness> does create custom launcher only support .svg for icon files?
[02:16] <edj> i just want to get rid of those those bars
[02:17] <edj> or install another doc
[02:17] <Ildjarn> Under ifconfig, I have an extra interface "wmaster0". How do I get rid of it? It has the same MAC address as wlan0, with extra 0s.
[02:18] <edj> i had one install on edgy but dont remember what it was called
[02:18] <loguser1> how to upgrade kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 ?       and maintaiiining the same apps and settings. ?
[02:18] <_zach_> loguser1, it should keep the same config and if it detects it's going to change... it'll tell you
[02:19] <edj> any one good recommendation for applet docks?
[02:19] <slliness> I found my avast install for my dual boot situation but cannot seem to put it into menu so wanted to create quick launcher to access easily but cannot see copy of avast.png in ~/ folder so does quick launcher only support .svg
[02:19] <bulmer> check your /etc/network/interfaces file
[02:19] <slliness> ?
[02:20] <nipa> hello
[02:20] <danbhfive> hi
[02:20] <Ildjarn> bulmer: There's no wmaster0 in my /etc/network/interfaces
[02:21] <sirdork> Help my sound is detected but won't work
[02:21] <nipa> i have a problem with my two monitors. i'm running ubuntu 7.04 with a dualhead graphics card. i have a 15" monitor rotated and a 17" non-rotated. i want to run twinview, but be able to rotate the 15". if i manually try adding rotate parameters to xorg.conf, it rotates the 17" as well
[02:21] <nipa> check if it's using your onboard
[02:21] <nipa> that's what happened to me
[02:22] <edj> exit
[02:22] <loguser1> _zach_:  but will the app be installed as it is ?
[02:23] <danbhfive> loguser1: the apps will be updated to later versions, but other than that, they will be the same
[02:23] <Templar> any of you guys use a firewall on ubuntu?
[02:23] <Templar> or do i even need one?
[02:23] <danbhfive> for example, firefox kept all my bookmarks, and extentions
[02:23] <bulmer> yes, we use iptables
[02:24] <loguser1> k
[02:24] <bradv_> Templar: Try install firestarter. It is a configuration tool for your firewall.
[02:24] <nipa> anyone know if there's anything i can do concerning my problem?
[02:24] <pr1r> hello again i have another question... i got the video working on my geforce fx 5200 now... but now the other monitor is off... and in screens and graphics i try to "test" the other monitor and when i do the program tries and then vanishes... how do i go about getting 2 monitors on 2 separate video cards to work...
[02:24] <dissection> Under ifconfig, I have an extra interface "wmaster0". How do I get rid of it? It has the same MAC address as wlan0, with extra 0s.
[02:24] <pr1r> thank you in advance
[02:24] <Templar> thanks
[02:24] <emma> Templar,  I use firestarter. I think it is a GUI for the iptables.
[02:24] <bulmer> dissection-> does it also show when using  "ip a"
[02:24] <loguser1> danbhfive:  last thing. if i pluge that hardrive to an other pc. with different hardware. like from p3 to p4. will kubuntu work?
[02:25] <bradv_> dissection: Why do you want to get rid of it? Is it causing a problem?
[02:25] <emma> Templar,  you can see if you have it by going to settings>administration and seeing if you have an app called 'Firestarter'
[02:25] <nipa> dan, probably not
[02:25] <nipa> but i'm not sure
[02:25] <Templar> cheers - will do
[02:25] <_zach_> prlr, have you tried googling for double headed xconfig's?
[02:25] <pyrak> how do i connect to my password-protected network with wifi radar?
[02:25] <emma> If you don't have it and you want it then you can find firestarter in synaptic package manager.
[02:26] <danbhfive> loguser1: I think so, I moved this harddrive from an amd athlon to a pentium dual core
[02:26] <Ildjarn_> Under ifconfig, I have an extra interface "wmaster0". How do I get rid of it? It has the same MAC address as wlan0, with extra 0s.
[02:26] <loguser1> ok
[02:26] <Templar> just converted my dad to xubuntu there and he loves it!
[02:26] <pr1r> _zach_ yes i have googled a bunch of different things from that to installing nvidis drivers... etc... im not a slacker... ive been at this since noon
[02:26] <danbhfive> loguser1: as long as it is the same architecture... it will use the the same kernel
[02:26] <Templar> runs a treat on his old laptop
[02:26] <jmazaredo> Failed to fetch http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-updates/restricted/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[02:26] <_zach_> prlr: just curious... because I know very little on the topic
[02:27] <pr1r> i tried xinerama
[02:27] <jmazaredo> anyone can help me with that
[02:27] <pr1r> like
[02:27] <pr1r> last ubuntu build
[02:27] <pr1r> didnt care for it
[02:27] <pr1r> never worked
[02:27] <bradv_> Ildjarn_: You have the same problem as dissection???
[02:27] <nipa> can someone help me with my rotated twinview problem?
[02:27] <jmazaredo> pici u there
[02:27] <_zach_> prlr: so you've got 2 video cards and you want two separate outputs?
[02:27] <Ildjarn_> bradv_: I'm dissection. Having electricity problems here and getting disconnected every few minutes.
[02:27] <bung> hey i accidently reformatted my /boot ... is there a way to get it working agian without reinstall? i get the feeling grub-install isnt enough cuz the kernel will be missing... thoughts?
[02:28] <matjan> anyone familiar with using samba for sharing a linux folder in an xp virtual machine?
[02:28] <pr1r> 2 separate video cards, 1 pci 1 agp and i want to stretch the desktop across them
[02:28] <matjan> that is, using vmware server
[02:28] <danbhfive> bung: maybe reinstall the kernel?  just a wild guess
[02:28] <bradv_> Ildjarn_: Why do you want to get rid of it? Is it causing problems?
[02:28] <loguser1> k
[02:28] <gRaCiOsO> i have a problem with my usb memory it cant be mounted o something like it i cant see it some one could help me? i use feisty
[02:28] <jmazaredo> i got error on apt-get update
[02:28] <loguser1> thx
[02:29] <Ildjarn_> bradv_: No but it's not supposed to have been there in the first place
[02:29] <jmazaredo> repository error
[02:29] <_zach_> prlr: sounds like a tall order...
[02:29] <pyrak> how do i connect to a password-protected network with wifi radar?  or in general?
[02:29] <bradv_> Ildjarn_: If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it. Perhaps you need it for something.
[02:29] <pr1r> _zach_: yeah ive been trying this since ubuntu 5.04 or something
[02:29] <JPSman> are there any commands that would make ubuntu detect my LCD screen?
[02:29] <Ildjarn_> hm
[02:29] <pr1r> i continue every time a new build comes out to do this and end up going back to windows
[02:29] <_zach_> prlr: i'd almost recommend writing something yourself if you're hardcore enough :-P
[02:29] <pr1r> i wish
[02:30] <pr1r> im shocked i got flock on here
[02:30] <danbhfive> JPSman: are you changing screens or something?
[02:30] <Ildjarn_> bradv_: I'm not sure if it has got anything to do with not letting my wireless connect automatically.
[02:30] <sirdork> can someone please help me with my sound
[02:30] <pr1r> ima steal this part from my boss computer and just try to run both monitors from the 1 card
[02:30] <bradv_> Ildjarn_: I have wmaster0 on my computer
[02:31] <pr1r> thanks for the help tho man i really do appreciate it
[02:31] <Ildjarn_> Hm, okay.
[02:31] <JPSman> danbhfive - nope I R is trying to duel monitor
[02:31] <_zach_> prlr: not showing any bias anywhere... but use whatever os works for you best
[02:31] <nipa> it appears i can't rotate a monitor in a twinview setup.. anyone know how i can get compiz fusion working with xinerama, or last ditch solution, two seperate X screens? i've tried two seperate X screens, but one of the monitors has about 1-2 seconds delay in opening anything
[02:31] <pr1r> _zach_ i hate windows... i love ubuntu... i really wanna use it
[02:31] <JPSman> danbhfive - however it doesn't seem to want to recognize my LCD, it only does when the VGA is unplugged
[02:31] <_zach_> prlr: see I like ubuntu, but sometimes I'd rather use windows
[02:31] <jmazaredo> http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-updates/restricted/source/Sources.bz2: Hash Sum mismatch
[02:31] <_zach_> prlr: gaming mostly
[02:32] <pr1r> ubuntu is installed everywhere else, on my pen drive, on my home computer, ive always wanted it here at work i just cant not have 2 monitors
[02:32] <_zach_> prlr: wine just isn't mature enough to run ANYTHING quite yet
[02:32] <danbhfive> JPSman: well, if you were putting in a new monitor, I would suggest running a varient of sudo dpkg-reconfigure xsever-org
[02:32] <pr1r> yeah im big on the hl2dm, lol
[02:32] <danbhfive> or something like that
[02:32] <pr1r> ill brb ima go tell him i need that shit back
[02:32] <pr1r> lol
[02:32] <pr1r> thanks again
[02:32] <_zach_> prlr: some guy in the acm at my university runs the new tf on wine
[02:32] <_zach_> prlr: don't ask me how
[02:32] <whitespy9> howdy
[02:33] <nipa> i would try running tf2 on wine
[02:33] <inversekinetix> can anyone help me install MAME and MESS please?
[02:33] <Ildjarn_> tf?
[02:33] <_zach_> team fortress
[02:33] <nipa> but i need to sort out some space for steam
[02:33] <nipa> it does work
[02:33] <nipa> just.. not that well as windows
[02:33] <ryan_> hey guys, i installed a dial up modem in 7.04 and also installed the driver, problem is i can't dial out it trys but just seems to get stuck any suggestions?
[02:33] <littleball> hello, what package is for bind dns server?
[02:33] <_zach_> nipa, it's that way for almost everything emulated
[02:33] <whitespy9> apt-get command for mp3 codecs anyone?
[02:33] <JPSman> danbhfive - "    Package `xsever-org' is not installed and no info is available.   "
[02:34] <littleball> i did apt-cache search bind, which does not return the DNS server package
[02:34] <_zach_> whitespy9: something involving lame
[02:34] <soulfire> my LiveCD is good (checked for errors, none came up) and whenever I click the install option, after the loading bar goes away, Ubuntu hangs at the desktop for what seems like hours.  is there a way to get around this?
[02:34] <whitespy9> exsqueege me zach?
[02:35] <danbhfive> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:35] <nipa> whitespy9, try looking at the gstreamer packages
[02:35] <_zach_> whitespy9, the program that does mp3 type things "lame"
[02:35] <soulfire> danbh where do i enter this?
[02:35] <nipa> i got my mp3 support using those
[02:35] <_zach_> whitespy9, lame aint an mp3 encoder
[02:35] <_zach_> recursive acronyms... such fun
[02:35] <danbhfive> wo, sorry soulfire, that wasn't for you
[02:35] <soulfire> oh nps
[02:36] <pyrak> anything on connecting to a password-protected network with wifi radar?
[02:36] <soulfire> so many people here:P
[02:36] <danbhfive> :)
[02:36] <JPSman> i am here :OD
[02:36] <soulfire> but yea.. i can't figure out why it hangs at the desktop loading screen
[02:36] <danbhfive> JPSman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:36] <_zach_> pyrak, isn't there a box in there somewhere for a password?
[02:36] <pyrak> _zach_, yeah, but it's confusing, it says "key"
[02:37] <JPSman> danbhfive - "   xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[02:37] <JPSman>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071120193516    "
[02:37] <pyrak> _zach_, and entering the key in there doesn't work
[02:37] <_zach_> pyrak, hrm
[02:37] <_zach_> pyrak, anything useful in the manpage/google?
[02:37] <pyrak> _zach_, there's also a field that says "WPA"
[02:37]  * JPSman is a complete and utter NEWB
[02:37] <pyrak> _zach_, not google, didn't check the manpage
[02:37] <danbhfive> JPSman: yeah, keep track of that stuff, thats exactly what that command does
[02:38] <danbhfive> it overwrites xorg.conf
[02:38] <_zach_> pyrak, wep is the weak one, wpa is the strong one... maybe try it in that space?
[02:38] <danbhfive> if does a re-detect of your video card drivers and monitors
[02:38] <_zach_> pyrak, i'd assume you're using wpa anyways
[02:38] <pyrak> well, in WPA, it says "Driver"
[02:38] <littleball> hello, who  can help me check whether bind9 is in the repository?
[02:38] <pyrak> not "key"
[02:38] <sirdork> Someone please help.  I can't get my sound working
[02:38] <_zach_> pyrak, wno that you mention it... i never figured that out either...
[02:38] <_zach_> sirdork, what's the prob?
[02:39] <inversekinetix> can anyone help me install MAME and MESS please?
[02:39] <littleball> Package bind9 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:39] <sirdork> _zach_ it won't make a sound
[02:39] <DHINESH> how to install missing plugins ? now i am using realplayer to play mp3 file
[02:39] <_zach_> inversekinetix, have you hit up google yet?
[02:39] <danbhfive> littleball: have you check you repos?
[02:39] <_zach_> sirdork, any clues or hints as to why?
[02:39] <littleball> yes. Package bind9 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:39] <littleball>  is the returned msg
[02:39] <pyrak> _zach_, i was suspecting that it had to come in the form of a "connection command"
[02:39] <inversekinetix> _zach_ of course
[02:39] <littleball> i searched both au. and us. repository
[02:39] <sirdork> _zach_ the card is ditected but alsa and oss won't play a single noise
[02:40] <danbhfive> littleball: System > Administration > Software Sources
[02:40] <JPSman> danbhfive - so should I now restart?
[02:40] <pyrak> _zach_, but i'm a noob to the command line, i'd have no idea how to go about it
[02:40] <_zach_> sirdork, sound is turned up?
[02:40] <danbhfive> JPSman: yes, or you can hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:40] <sirdork> _zach_ yup the sound is turned up but nothing
[02:40] <_zach_> pyrak, the gusty has some wireless stuff built in
[02:40] <_zach_> sirdork, both on the speakers and alsa-conf?
[02:41] <_zach_> sirdork, I've had foot in mouth moments where alsa was muted
[02:41] <sirdork> _zach_ yes both
[02:41] <DHINESH> anyone help me.... how to install missing plugins ? Now i want to play realplayer to play mp3 file..
[02:41] <JPSman> WOW that was fast :OD
[02:41] <Azrael24> hi guys...I'm looking for a tv tuner card to make my computer a multimedia center with 7.10 - question is, what's a good tv tuner card that works with GG, and supports closed caption? (I'm deaf btw)
[02:41] <kazol3> Anyone here familiar with the AES wifi encryption "key renewal" setting?
[02:41] <JPSman> <-------- second day using this :OD
[02:41] <Azrael24> JPSman...they're pretty quick in here, and quite supportive
[02:42] <_zach_> inversekinetix, have you checked out: http://my.opera.com/Mr%20Green/blog/show.dml/171040
[02:42] <_zach_> sirdork, so the driver loads sound is on... and nothing's comin out
[02:42] <danbhfive> JPSman, did it work?
[02:43] <sirdork> _zach_ that's about it
[02:43] <inversekinetix> _zach_: yep, it installs the old version, I need the newest version
[02:43] <littleball> danbhfive, i am using remote console. not UI
[02:43] <JPSman> danbhfive - Well, my LCD is now my main screen and my VGA is all wako like the resolution is too high
[02:43] <UbuntMe> Hi
[02:44] <_zach_> inversekinetix, build from source?
[02:44] <JPSman> danbhfive - There is no option for changing my VGA resolution in the "screens and graphics" app
[02:44] <UbuntMe> Hows it going?
[02:44] <danbhfive> hmm, it sounds like a start, you may be able to fix, doh!
[02:44] <_zach_> sirdork, to tell you the truth I know little about tinkering with the sound... :-\
[02:44] <UbuntMe> Hey guys, I have a problem
[02:44] <JPSman> danbhfive - shows screen 2 as "disabled"
[02:44] <danbhfive> do you mean there is only one resolution?
[02:44] <JPSman> eh i;ll play with it
[02:44] <JPSman> no two screens are listed
[02:45] <squish102_> what is the best tool to set up samba with writable shares?
[02:45] <_zach_> sirdork, was it working before, or is this a fresh ubuntu... any ideas on what changed to make it not work?
[02:45] <JPSman> OH but my visual effects are now turned off :O(
[02:45] <EchoBinary> so ive messed up my xfce config and cant get any windows, is there a command to reset every configuration option?
[02:45] <_zach_> sirdork, maybe a driver or kernel-module?
[02:45] <UbuntMe> I can only change my resolution up to 1024-768.  How can I make the resolution higher?
[02:45] <danbhfive> littleball: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:45] <JPSman> brb, gonna reboot
[02:45] <sirdork> _zach_ I was on windows then I installed ubuntu and no sound
[02:46] <Azrael24> sirdork - are you trying to resolve sound?
[02:46] <_zach_> UbuntMe, try changing your monitor... i think plugnplay only allows up to 1024x768... others can go bigger
[02:46] <pyrak> _zach_, also, the key _is_ WEP i think, that's the setting that makes it work in network-manager
[02:46] <danbhfive> JPSman, yeah, visual effects will be turned off, do you have a graphics card?
[02:46] <danbhfive> hmmm, he left
[02:46] <sirdork> _zach_ resolve sound ??????????/
[02:46] <inversekinetix> _zach_: I built the latest version for it but it need a front end, i cant get anything to wok
[02:46] <UbuntMe> _zach_:  Well, I have a laptop....
[02:46] <_zach_> sirdork, i have no idea
[02:46] <littleball> danbhfive, oh, i know this file. the orig ones are sg. Because it does not work, i chage to us. and au. both not work
[02:46] <Azrael24> hi guys...I'm looking for a tv tuner card to make my computer a multimedia center with 7.10 - question is, what's a good tv tuner card that works with GG, and supports closed caption? (I'm deaf btw) any suggestions?
[02:47] <littleball> work now. thanks
[02:47] <_zach_> inversekinetix, so you installed the packages and then installed the newest from source?
[02:47] <dai1313> sirdork; try reloading driver?
[02:47] <_zach_> UbuntMe, try looking thru the list of monitors for whatever looks closest to what you have
[02:47] <sirdork> _zach_ several times
[02:48] <JPSman> !dual
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <clever[rev]> !games
[02:48] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[02:48] <UbuntMe> I use to have this thing I got from add/remove where I could change the reselution higher.  then I restarted ubuntu from scratch, so I know its out there.
[02:48] <JoeThomas> I just built mysql5.0.45 from source, and it says i dont have mysqladmin
[02:48] <inversekinetix> _zach_:  yes but the front ends wont recognize the latest sdls
[02:48] <danbhfive> JPSman: are you using a restricted driver for you graphics card?
[02:48] <JPSman> danbhfive - yeah :O'
[02:48] <_zach_> UbuntMe, try looking thru the settings/preferences for something resoluation related
[02:49] <_zach_> inversekinetix, sdl?
[02:49] <danbhfive> JPSman: i suggest uninstalling, reboot, and reinstalling the driver
[02:49] <danbhfive> it may bring back the eye candy
[02:49] <inversekinetix> _zach_: sdl is the graphics library for it i think
[02:49] <Fleg> alright.  how do I install ubuntu via lan
[02:49] <UbuntMe> _zach_:  Ya, doesn't work.
[02:49] <jmazaredo> !hash
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <JPSman> danbhfive - eye candy is back - but it does not like dualing with that restricted driver on
[02:50] <Aintaer> Hmm, netstat -l takes a long time right before it hits sshd, is this something to be worried about?
[02:50] <offseid> Is there a way for me to minimize Xchat to the systray?
[02:50] <JPSman> danbhfive - cuz i'm back to my first monitor :O,
[02:50] <dsmith_> hi
[02:50] <danbhfive> JPSman: well, I'm at the limits of my knowledge  :(  I just knew that one command
[02:50] <Peddy> Can somebody please tell me if there is a way to burn an AVI file to a DVD in Ubuntu?
[02:51] <peterbilt> Aintaer using netstat -tunap is a good non-root or sudo output.
[02:51] <dsmith_> im new to ubuntu, however how can I change the window management icons from right to left?
[02:51] <_zach_> UbuntMe, reconfigure xorg.conf?
[02:51] <DShepherd> Peddy, yeah...Places -- Cd/Dvd Creator put your file there.. and click write to disc
[02:51] <Azrael24> peddy...I'm curious to learn this too...I got battlestar galatica 'razor' and been trying to burn it to dvd - from avi file
[02:51] <_zach_> inversekinetix, maybe build the frontends from source too?
[02:52] <JPSman> danbhfive - do you know of any slow but steady tutorials online where I can learn the in's and out's of linux/ubuntu/gutsy?
[02:52] <Peddy> DSheperd: but will that make it playable in a normal DVD player?
[02:52] <Azrael24> peddy...I heard of 'tovo' or something?
[02:52] <Peddy> tovid?
[02:52] <inversekinetix> _zach_:  i dont know how to i tried and its a nighmare
[02:52] <_sam_> is it possible to run network-manager outside of gnome?
[02:52] <Azrael24> that's the one!  tovid
[02:52] <Azrael24> tried it?
[02:52] <danbhfive> little: glad it worked out
[02:52] <DShepherd> Peddy, not sure
[02:52] <UbuntMe> _zach_:  whats that?
[02:53] <_zach_> inversekinetix, sometimes that's the difficulty on staying bleeding edge
[02:53] <_sam_> re network-manager, i actually mean outside of X11
[02:53] <DShepherd> Peddy, can pop the dvd in and double click on the file...
[02:53] <Peddy> DShepherd: I don't think it will... Any other ideas (some software maybe)?
[02:53] <soulzz2003> is the ubuntu livecd install suppose to take longer then 30 minutes?  mines been idle at the desktop with nothing for about 1 hour now
[02:53] <Peddy> DShepherd: I mean playing it on a physical DVD player
[02:53] <inversekinetix> _zach_:  i dont understand why the repositories are 15 versions behind
[02:53] <Peddy> it won't work
[02:53] <_zach_> inversekinetix, is there anyone out there that builds the newest releases of mame for people to use on a separate repo?
[02:53] <DShepherd> Peddy, oh, .. no bright ideas left for that though
[02:54] <_sam_> soulzz2003: is it stuck on any specific screen in the installer?
[02:54] <_zach_> UbuntMe, it can be kinda nitty gritty but it's how you can configure your monitor/videocard/resolution manually
[02:54] <Peddy> ok thanks though
[02:54] <inversekinetix> there are no packages. you have to build it from source
[02:54] <Fleg> JPSMan
[02:54] <Fleg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=500020
[02:54] <_zach_> inversekinetix, ain't that a beotch
[02:54] <slliness> jingle bells
[02:55] <_zach_> inversekinetix, maybe post on the forums and hope for the best?
[02:55] <danbhfive> JPSman, no I don't. I just look at the forums myself
[02:55] <inversekinetix> _zach_:  Ive tried, but no one helps, I guess Ill just have to use windows for these basic tasks
[02:55] <JPSman> danbhfive - thank you for your help anyway :D
[02:55] <_zach_> inversekinetix, i know how you feel
[02:55] <Fleg> JPSman go here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=500020
[02:55] <danbhfive> JPSman, you could check out ubuntu.com, I;m sure it has somthing
[02:55] <Peddy> Anybody know how to burn an AVI file to a DVD in ubuntu?
[02:56] <JPSman> Fleg - thanks :OD
[02:56] <inversekinetix> _zach_:  i guess linux/ubuntu isnt quite ready yet\
[02:56] <_zach_> inversekinetix, it's a lot better than it used to be... but still not perfect for everything
[02:56] <_sam_> games are the big gap right now
[02:56] <_zach_> huge
[02:56] <sirdork> can anyone else help me tinker with the sound?
[02:56] <soulzz2003> cegeda helps
[02:56] <soulzz2003> a bunch ;)
[02:57] <Fleg> alright. who knows how to install on lan
[02:57] <_zach_> still ain't perfect
[02:57] <_zach_> even starcraft runs a little glitchy on bnet
[02:57] <soulzz2003> i know, but its close to it :)
[02:57] <soulzz2003> its better then it was 3 years ago, thats for sure
[02:57] <_zach_> it's like 11 years old
[02:57] <Aintaer> Closer to perfect than windows.
[02:57] <soulzz2003> oh yea
[02:57] <_sam_> that's why it's not well supported
[02:57] <UbuntMe> _zach_:  is it a command or a program?
[02:57] <inversekinetix> its not even games, its breadth of development thats missing
[02:57] <_sam_> war2 bne also sucks in cedega
[02:57] <_sam_> inversekinetix: huh?
[02:57] <inversekinetix> or maturity of that development
[02:58] <_zach_> UbuntMe, it's a configuration file... if you don't know what it is... i'd recommend against messing with it... it can be tiresome to fix
[02:58] <_sam_> inversekinetix: help me out with an example
[02:58] <soulzz2003> so does anyone have an idea how to fix a desktop freeze - i can't get past it.. no icons show up whatsoever.
[02:58] <UbuntMe> ok
[02:58] <_sam_> soulzz2003: hit ctrl-alt-backspace and see if it comes around
[02:58] <Jimmi_jones> I just started a fresh reinstall of 7.1 on my laptop. Anyone here who can help me get my Broadcom 4311 internal working on it once the install is done? The restricted drivers didn't do it for me before.
[02:58] <_zach_> soulzz2003, that'll restart the window manager
[02:59] <soulzz2003> _sam_ and _zach_ thanks;)
[02:59] <UbuntMe> So, know one elce knows how I  can change my resolution past 1024-768?
[02:59] <_zach_> soulzz2003, i had problems in ubuntu gusty with that
[02:59] <soulzz2003> do i to this on the desktop?
[02:59] <_sam_> soulzz2003: anywhere in the GUI
[02:59] <soulzz2003> or during the livecd boot screen
[02:59] <_zach_> soulzz2003, had something to do with suspend I think... idk... I switched to xubuntu and now have a whole new set of issues
[02:59] <soulzz2003> oh ok
[02:59] <soulzz2003> _zach_ have you tried kubuntu?
[02:59] <inversekinetix> _sam_  Im big into emulation, I have emulators for everything under windows, setting them up is easy, theyre easy to configure with usually excellent guis, there are many up to date ones,   no trying to do this on linux has so far been nothing but a long long headache/nightmare
[03:00] <craptasticles> I'm having problems with grub. It's saying error 21: disk does not exist.
[03:00] <_zach_> soulzz2003, not yet... but I think if i can work out the kinks in xubuntu I'll be fine... I'd prefer lightweight
[03:00] <marek_> sorry 4 my english
[03:00] <_sam_> oh, yeah, emu devs kind of do their own thing on linux.  i agree that it's a bit more standardized on windows, where the apps have a common launch method
[03:00] <soulzz2003> _zach_ is xubuntu difficult for a power user (with no previous knowledge of linux) to install?
[03:01] <_sam_> i have fceu and zsnes set up on my mythtv box.. you need a little bit of CLI experience to do that comfortably, and even then it was a little weird getting roms with spaces in the filenames to start properly.  but that's a mythtv thing.
[03:01] <_zach_> soulzz2003, idk... it installs easy... just configuring everything and working out the kinks is giving me trouble
[03:01] <marek_> when i use apt-build, which processor i must select? when i use amd mobile sempron 3400+ i686?
[03:01] <Jimmi_jones> craptasticles: it sounds like you have grub pointed to a partition or disk that isn't there, is your machine not booting?
[03:01] <krs1> I'm having trouble with Gutsy, w/ screensaver and powersaving turned off, after about 5 minutes the screen goes black.  can anyone help me prevent this?
[03:01] <_zach_> _sam_, are you using that new scheduling thing?
[03:02] <_sam_> _zach_: schedules direct?
[03:02] <_sam_> i like it.
[03:02] <craptasticles> jimmi_jones: well, I'm trying to boot a second disk that contains windows
[03:02] <_zach_> _sam_, i have a dedicated myth box but i kinda stopped using it when I went to school
[03:02] <Whisperkiller> can someone help me with my ati driver automatic installer? https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.42.3-inst.html the instructions dont seem to be working on gutsy x64.  The part im stuck on is getting the automatic installer to run.
[03:02] <inversekinetix> _sam_ installing an emulator shouldnt have to involve compiling front and back ends from source, espcially when they use different compilers that you have to figuire out first and then mess around with cryptic configuration files
[03:02] <soulzz2003> well, i tried ctrl+alt+backspace.. same thing
[03:02] <armdsp> test 1234
[03:02] <inversekinetix> it doesnt nothing more that alienate and exclude many many people
[03:02] <craptasticles> I can boot the first disk that has ubuntu and from there I can mount/browse the windows disk but it just won't let me boot from it
[03:02] <_zach_> _sam_, now i'm home for thanksgiving and idk if it's worthwhile to go thru and figure out the new one for the week i'll be here
[03:02] <armdsp> #ubuntu
[03:02] <_sam_> actually, my wife is the biggest myth user in the house -- so now the tv schedules are another bill i have to pay
[03:03] <_zach_> _sam_, that and I need a new case... sleeping with that thing in my room is hell... it's louder than a jetplane
[03:03] <craptasticles> and the thing is that I let grub configure itself from the live cd
[03:03] <marek_> someone can help me with apt-build?
[03:03] <JPSman> is there any way to do a "transparent" desktop "color" for the 3D cube visual effect?
[03:03] <_sam_> but it's worth it, and it seems like they're doing it for cost
[03:03] <_sam_> pretty cheap!
[03:03] <Jimmi_jones> craptasticles: is windows on the first partition of the second disk? Does grub point to the disk in the right place? IE hda, hdb, hdc... where is it plugged into your controller? Where does your bios think the disk is?
[03:03] <JPSman> so that I can still see my desktop icons but see through the rest?
[03:03] <_sam_> inversekinetix: what emulator was that?  sounds complicated.
[03:04] <Rev> anyone know off hand a fix for the nvidia drivers 'you appear to be running an X server' error
[03:04] <Whisperkiller> can someone help me with my ati driver automatic installer? https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.42.3-inst.html the instructions dont seem to be working on gutsy x64.  The part im stuck on is getting the automatic installer to run.
[03:04] <marek_> please some one can help me with apt-build?
[03:04] <inversekinetix> _sam_ mame
[03:04] <craptasticles> jimmi_jones: well, now that I think about it, I did see a dellrestore partition and I think another one. How can I tell which partition windows is on?
[03:04] <_sam_> marek_: i think you pick the arch name, which i think must be i386, right?
[03:05] <marek_> i've mobile semptron 3400+, witch procesor i must select in apt-build config?
[03:05] <marek_> _sam_ my procesor is i686 and i like to compile all programs to i686
[03:06] <_zach_> inversekinetix, i wonder if that's why they're 15 versions behind :-P
[03:06] <reya276> How can I find out if my wacom tablet is connected and to what event
[03:06] <Jimmi_jones> craptasticles: this is just a guess, but they usually put the "restore" partitions as the second partition, about 10 gigs or so
[03:06] <_sam_> inversekinetix: mame's a pretty popular emu, i'm surprised the packages don't make it easier, but i'll admit i've never used mame, so i can't be much help other than to suggest trying the packages, but that's really the first thing anyone tries, and i'm sure you've done that
[03:06] <inversekinetix> yep, thanks, I guess its back to windows
[03:06] <_sam_> marek_: OH.  that must be the mcpu arg for gcc
[03:07] <craptasticles> hm. I booted into Ubuntu and opened computer:///
[03:07] <marek_> _sam_ i would like to use apt-build world, but i don't know witch processor i must select? k6, k8, athlon....
[03:07] <marek_> _sam_ have you ever use apt-build?
[03:07] <craptasticles> It shows a 144.3 GB volume first (windows) then a dellrestore and dellutility.
[03:07] <_sam_> marek_: no, i'm just looking it up in apt-cache.
[03:08] <reya276> How can I find out if my USB Wacom tablet is connected and to what event #?
[03:08] <offseid> Can anyone tell me how automatically login to XChat rather than always having to IDENTIFY to NickServ each time?
[03:08] <soulzz2003> is kubuntu easier to install then ubuntu?
[03:08] <danbhfive> soul: I think they are the same to install
[03:08] <vocx> reya276, I think you must use "lsusb"  What do you mean what "event"?
[03:09] <soulzz2003> reason i ask is.. i've about given up on installing ubuntu... just wont load to desktop
[03:09] <_zach_> offseid, script?
[03:09] <marek_> _sam_ thx, polish users say i must seleckt k7, bye
[03:09] <Fleg> ok, new to irc.  how do i pm
[03:09] <soulzz2003> double click on someones name
[03:09] <danbhfive> soul: I don't think kubuntu will be different I'm afraid
[03:09] <_sam_> marek_: look in the man page for gcc on line 6288
[03:09] <soulzz2003> dan is there anyway around it?
[03:09] <krs1> any ideas on how to 'really' turn off powersaving/screensaver in gutsy?  5 minutes and the screen goes black.  if I come back after 30 minutes, it's hard boot time.
[03:09] <Cpudan80> Fleg: /msg user message