[00:00] <Razer_> Windows 7 has something called, "Stereo Mix" which allows recording of sound output (before speakers). Does Ubuntu have an equivalent to this?
[00:05] <raj> how can I update a package?
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> raj, Beyond what is in the repo?
[00:05] <raj> no, to the latest repo version
[00:05] <raj> my current node.js version is 0.5.5
[00:05] <raj> I want the latest 0.8.x
[00:06] <[twisti]> ok, yeah, theres definitely something wrong with this package, its just a server module that responds via http, this should not require x11 and sound drivers to be installed
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> raj, is this not offered in the release you are running, and are you sure this version is in the repo?
[00:06] <[twisti]> so is there any way i can get help with that or report a bug or something ? or am i just screwed and doomed to skip the package and do a manual install ?
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> raj,If it is the repo a standard update would be all you need.
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> is in*
[00:07] <raj> how do you do that?
[00:07] <raj> oh no, I don't have the package manger version
[00:07] <raj> i just looked it up in synaptic
[00:07] <raj> that is ollllddddd!
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> raj, In the terminal sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:08] <Razer_> Windows 7 has something called, "Stereo Mix" which allows recording of sound output (before speakers). Does Ubuntu have an equivalent to this? How can I record sound output?
[00:09] <jrib> [twisti]: what are you actually doing exactly?
[00:09] <raj> wilee-nilee, I probably don't have the package manager version
[00:09] <raj> since mine is even newer
[00:09] <raj> nm
[00:09] <[twisti]> jrib: i wrote "sudo apt-get install jenkins"
[00:10] <[twisti]> which i expected to result in the download and installation of jenkins, not x11 and pulse
[00:10] <mmgc84> Razer_, audacity is an option! very good if you ask for my opinion
[00:10] <[twisti]> but i aborted when i saw the page filling list
[00:10] <jrib> [twisti]: try without installing recommends
[00:10] <cowsquad> hey friends, Is anybody experiencing white menus when you guys right click on the desktop, or on the little settings icon on the right top corner?
[00:10] <Razer_> mmgc84: I have Audacity, but I can only record microphone input. I'm trying to figure out how to record the sound output, similar to "Stereo Mix" in Windows 7.
[00:10] <[twisti]> oh, recommends is another page, thats just the requireds
[00:11] <jrib> [twisti]: what?
[00:11] <[twisti]> suggested is a 2nd page of stuff
[00:11] <blackshirt> you can disable option to apt to not install recommended packages
[00:11] <[twisti]> or am i missunderstanding you ?
[00:11] <kostkon> Razer_, you need to install pavucontrol
[00:12] <jrib> [twisti]: apt-get will install recommended packages by default, try passing --no-install-recommends (or whatever the option is; see apt-get's man page)
[00:12] <kostkon> Razer_, then start recording in audacity, then open pavucontrol and you should see audacity listed in the recording tab. select the monitor of your soundcard as the source device
[00:12] <[twisti]> oh, 1 sec
[00:12] <[twisti]> still 50 different things
[00:12] <jrib> [twisti]: and?
[00:12] <Razer_> kostkon: okay, will do. Thanks for the help. :)
[00:12] <kostkon> Razer_, np
[00:13] <[twisti]> that seems a lot for something that usually comes as a single file
[00:13] <dr_willis> !info jenkins-cli
[00:13] <[twisti]> and i dont see why i would install something like x11-commons
[00:13] <jrib> [twisti]: well the dependencies look like a bunch of java packages
[00:13] <cowsquad> anybody?
[00:13] <blackshirt> sure
[00:13] <jrib> [twisti]: is x11-common still being installed when you pass --no-install-recommends?
[00:13] <dr_willis> pulling in some sort of gui sounds like.
[00:13] <[twisti]> yes
[00:14] <blackshirt> !ask | cowsquads
[00:14] <[twisti]> as well as when i use dr_willis' suggestion with -cli
[00:14] <blackshirt> !ask | cowsquad
[00:15] <dr_willis> im just reading up on it at   https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/jenkins
[00:15] <basketballstar> sync either ubuntu 1 or dropbox to flashdrive for both windows and linux
[00:16] <cowsquad> I did  but no one answered it. I have a white menus on my top right corner panel and on the right click with the mouse. I dont know what happend, they were fine.
[00:16] <blackshirt> hemm, unity 12.04 cowsquad ?
[00:16] <cowsquad> unity 12.10
[00:19] <jrib> [twisti]: I guess you'd have to trace the dependencies yourself to realize why it's being pulled in, but I don't see what's the big deal about installing x11-common
[00:19] <blackshirt> cowsquad, i don't know what it is.. I don't have play with unity anymore
[00:19] <ls612> Hi. I'm intending to dual-boot win8 and Ubuntu 12.10, and I'd like to have my disk encrypted. My question though is first would this be possible and second if it is which encryption (BitLocker or the Ubuntu setup encryption) should I use?
[00:19] <cowsquad> what do you have blackshirt?
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> basketballstar, with a quick google I see this a portable dropbox for a usb. http://www.petenetlive.com/KB/Article/0000409.htm
[00:20] <blackshirt> cowsquad, xfce ....
[00:20] <cowsquad> xfce, is it better that unity?
[00:21] <[twisti]> jrib: im uneasy about something installing things that it clearly doesnt need, like x11 and sound drivers for a server module that runs automated builds
[00:21] <dr_willis> try the differnt desktops and decide for your self which one you like.
[00:21] <[twisti]> its not the end of the world, i just dont like it, because its so nonsensical
[00:21] <blackshirt> cowsquad, for me yes
[00:22] <jrib> [twisti]: it's likely just some capability of the software you don't use/don't know about that requires it
[00:22] <jrib> [twisti]: it could also just be something that the jre packages require for whatever reason.  I don't know
[00:22] <cowsquad> blackshirt, so that is xubuntu right?
[00:23] <jrib> [twisti]: is it pulling in the jre?
[00:23] <[twisti]> yes, and for some reason its pulling in BOTH (normal and headless)
[00:23] <Razer_> kostkon: How would I go back to recording from the microphone?
[00:24] <blackshirt> cowsquad, exactly, not full xubuntu system, i build it from scratch
[00:24] <kostkon> Razer_, just change the device from monitor to your mic for example, or any other input you want that is listed in the drop down menu.
[00:25] <jrib> [twisti]: do you already have headless installed?
[00:25] <kostkon> Razer_, if you leave the recording source to monitor pulseaudio will remember your choice the next time you open audacity, so yeah, if you want to change it back, do it before closing audacity.
[00:26] <[twisti]> jrib: yes, but jre7, not 6
[00:26] <cowsquad> blackshirt, How do I extend a free space on my hard drive using disk utility?
[00:26] <[twisti]> of course, i would WANT it to run on 7 anyways
[00:26] <blackshirt> cowsquad, thats a different topic ... Maybe better using gparted
[00:26] <willdabeast> Does anyone have some experience with 'Deepin'? I am wondering whether to switch to that as opposed to synaptic and ubuntu software center.
[00:27] <cowsquad> okay, thank you blackshirt
[00:27] <Razer_> kostkon: so, while recording with Audacity, I have to change it to "Monitor of...", and then it will automatically switch to recording output, and I change it back to the other item in the dropdown to make it record microphone again?
[00:27] <cowsquad> blackshirt, im about to try xubuntu desktop out :)
[00:28] <kostkon> Razer_, yes, it works in real time, on-the-fly, don't worry, you can change devices any time you want during a recording
[00:28] <blackshirt> cowsquad, good lucks guys
[00:28] <Razer_> kostkon: Okay, well, it's not recording mic anymore at all, even if I change it to the option that isn't "Monitor of..."
[00:28] <cowsquad> thank you :)
[00:29] <kostkon> Razer_, hmmm
[00:29] <jrib> [twisti]: libjnr-posix-java seems to pull in x11-common, follow that if you want
[00:29] <[twisti]> not sure how you mean that
[00:29] <[twisti]> 'follow that' ?
[00:29] <willdabeast> Does anyone have some experience with 'Deepin'? I am wondering whether to switch to that as opposed to synaptic and ubuntu software center.
[00:29] <Razer_> kostkon: the only options are, "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo" and "Monitor of Built-in Audio Analog Stereo"
[00:29] <jrib> [twisti]: you can follow the dependency chain if you are still not sure why libjnr-posix-java should depend on x11-common
[00:29] <blackshirt> willdabeast, deepin ?
[00:30] <[twisti]> oh
[00:30] <[twisti]> ill have to give it some thought
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: Deepin seems to be it'sown distro
[00:30] <willdabeast> actionparsnip is that right?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: http://www.linuxdeepin.com/   yes
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> there is a deepin software center for ubuntu
[00:30] <kostkon> Razer_, hmm. for a start, check the volume level of your mic
[00:30] <blackshirt> cowsquad, if you have experienced with apt system, you can switch your desktp env easily
[00:31] <jrib> [twisti]: actually it's probably just default-jre when that gets pulled in
[00:31] <test359> hi
[00:31] <willdabeast> actionparsnip well there's also a deepin software center, that's why I asked, some people seem to prefer it.
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: try it is all I can suggest, it won't be supported here
[00:31] <jrib> [twisti]: if you can satisfy the dependencies regarding the jre beforehand and not let apt try to pick a jre for you, you might be able to avoid x11-common
[00:31] <kostkon> Razer_, you can do it in pavucontrol, just select the input devices tab
[00:31] <Razer_> kostkon: Ahh, I found it. In the Input Devices tab, the Microphone was muted.
[00:31] <kostkon> Razer_, :P
[00:31] <[twisti]> how would i do that ?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: could ask in #linuxdeepin
[00:32] <[twisti]> id rather everything that wants java use 7 anyways
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, I would use the cli and apt-fast.
[00:32] <willdabeast> ActionParsnip, alright thanks.
[00:32] <jrib> [twisti]: well do you have openjdk-7-jre-headless installed?
[00:32] <ekaj> Is the Xubuntu desktop or Ubuntu LXDE desktop lighter?
[00:32] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee, for what?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> wilee-nilee: +1 for apt-fast :)
[00:32] <xx> help me fix my wireless please
[00:32] <[twisti]> yes
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> ekaj: Lubuntu is slightly lighter
[00:33] <ekaj> Than both of those?
[00:33] <blackshirt> wilee-nilee, apt-fast was not reliable way event it was more faster than standar way
[00:33] <blackshirt> Event
[00:33] <blackshirt> Even
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, For getting apps, it is faster, but if your looking for a gui you can try deepin.
[00:33] <xx> fix my wireless please?
[00:33] <hot_wheelz> Hi guys
[00:33] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee ah alright thanks
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> blackshirt, apt=fast is reliable here.
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> xx: why not give some details rather than repeat the same pointless phrase
[00:34] <ekaj> ActionParsnip: Lubuntu is lighter than LXDE and Xubuntu?
[00:34] <xx> ActionParsnip, okay, well my laptop isnt detecting my wireless
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> ekaj: Lubuntu uses LXDE
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> xx: what wifi chip do you use?
[00:34] <blackshirt> wilee-nilee, i think apt-was not handle partial install correctly
[00:35] <blackshirt> apt-fast was not
[00:35] <ekaj> Okay, I was asking because it has a Lubuntu minimal and an Ubuntu LXDE desktop choice
[00:35] <willdabeast> Another problem, there's a program I am uninstalling through ubuntu software center, and it seems to be stuck "applying changes" I've restarted the software center, no changes, any workaround?
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> blackshirt, faster not sure really, but I like that it downloads the code, I never do partial installs, so I'm not sure there.
[00:35] <xx> ActionParsnip,  how can i know\?
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> ekaj: you can install lxde only if you want. If you want super light just install openbox and use it on it's own (no desktop) for absolute lightness :)
[00:36] <ekaj> I was wanting a lightweight host to run VMs =p I was going to try the Ubuntu-server approach
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> xx: sudo lshw -C network     what is the product line for the wifi?
[00:36] <ekaj> Thanks for your help though
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> ekaj: install server and you can manage the VMs using the VIC on another system
[00:37] <wabash> Has anyone here put XFCE on ubuntu?  How did it go, and are there any things I should watch out for?
[00:37] <[twisti]> jrib: was there a follow-up coming for that ?
[00:37] <linuxuz3r> anyone knows a good it channel
[00:37] <linuxuz3r> it for info tech
[00:37] <bubblehouse> hello
[00:37] <xx> ActionParsnip,  where can i copy the response for u ?
[00:37] <bubblehouse> I am trying to install lubuntu on hp e-Vectra
[00:37] <linuxuz3r> hi bubblehouse
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> wabash: works well :)
[00:38] <bubblehouse> cannot get past boot: as I don't know if there is a specific parameter I need
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> xx: its one line, just write it here
[00:38] <bubblehouse> I tried generic IDE settings...
[00:38] <wabash> ActionParsnip: Nice! I figure you might be someone who did not like Gnome 3 all that much?
[00:38] <bubblehouse> I cannot find a previous experience online thus far.. any nelp?
[00:38] <xx>   *-network
[00:38] <xx>        description: Wireless interface
[00:38] <xx>        product: Broadcom Corporation
[00:38] <xx>        vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[00:38] <xx>        physical id: 0
[00:38] <FloodBot1> xx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:38] <jrib> [twisti]: no, just curious.  I'm not interested in tracing the dependencies involved with those jre packages.  But that's likely where all of those dependencies are coming from
[00:38] <xx>        bus info: pci@0000:04:00.0
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> (00:36:13) ActionParsnip: xx: sudo lshw -C network     what is the product line for the wifi?      sound familiar?
[00:39] <bubblehouse> no ideas? P3 processor
[00:39] <[twisti]> jrib: oh, i thought there was some easy way to make jre7 my default jre like you said
[00:39] <ControllerSYR> hello when i open this sorce in ubuntu 12.04 cpwindow.cc: In constructor ‘CPWindow::CPWindow()’: cpwindow.cc:38:20: error: cannot call constructor ‘CPWindow::CWindow’ directly [-fpermissive] cpwindow.cc:38:20: error: for a function-style cast, remove the redundant ‘::CWindow’
[00:39] <wabash> ActionParsnip: ?
[00:39] <ControllerSYR> the program is lxrad
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> bubblehouse: you may want to use Precise so you can use Lubuntu or Xubuntu to avoid the PAE kernel
[00:40] <jrib> !multijava | [twisti]
[00:40] <bubblehouse> ah.. I will look for that
[00:40] <xx> ActionParsnip,   product: NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
[00:40] <xx>        vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[00:40] <ControllerSYR> this is messege agin : cpwindow.cc: In constructor ‘CPWindow::CPWindow()’: cpwindow.cc:38:20: error: cannot call constructor ‘CPWindow::CWindow’ directly [-fpermissive] cpwindow.cc:38:20: error: for a function-style cast, remove the redundant ‘::CWindow’
[00:40] <bubblehouse> burn another CD!
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> xx: thats the wired connection. Ethernet is a wired technology
[00:40] <bubblehouse> I'll let you know how it goes ActionParsnip. Thanks
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> xx: remember when I said the line above ^
[00:41] <xx> ActionParsnip,    description: Ethernet interface
[00:41] <xx>        product: NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
[00:41] <xx>        vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[00:41] <xx> oops
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> xx: " what is the product line for the wifi? "    remember that?
[00:41] <xx> i keep pasting the wrong thing :/
[00:41]  * wilee-nilee hopes all in the US will vote on tuesday
[00:41] <[twisti]> ah, thanks jrib, didnt seem to work for jenkins, maybe its set specifically to jre6
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> xx: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[00:41] <xx> ActionParsnip,        product: Broadcom Corporation
[00:42] <jrib> [twisti]: it won't affect anything regarding dependencies (afaik), it will just make sure various symlinks point to the right version.  So java -> java7 for example
[00:42] <xx> ActionParsnip,  the output of lsb_release -sc : lucid as in lucid lynx
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | xx
[00:42] <[twisti]> ah, yeah, i guess it already did that for me before that
[00:42] <xx> ty ActionParsnip
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> xx: you may want to clean install with Precise. Lucid desktop is EOL in April next year
[00:43] <xx> eol?
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> xx: dead, no support and no updates
[00:43] <xx> really?! i thought it was the stable version of ubuntu. what is Precise?
[00:43] <willdabeast> can anyone help me? I was installing this program and it has been stuck there for about 30 minutes now, not a big program. Any workaround?
[00:43] <ControllerSYR> how i know about my linux in terminal ( 64 or 32 )
[00:44] <kostkon> ControllerSYR, uname -r
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> xx: Quantal is the current stable release, Precise is also stable and supported until 2017
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> xx: Precise is Ubuntu 12.04
[00:45] <ControllerSYR> it did not tell me what i need
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> ControllerSYR: uname -m
[00:45] <ControllerSYR> i need to know if my linux 64 or 32
[00:45] <kostkon> ControllerSYR, if it says generic it's 32bit otherwise it's 64
[00:45] <ControllerSYR> ok
[00:46] <xx> what is precise like compared to lucid?
[00:47] <k1l_> xx: 2 years newer?
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> xx: it uses Unity as a replacement for Gnome-panel but it can be installed
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> xx: it has later versions of the packages that make up the OS
[00:47] <ControllerSYR> thanks
[00:48] <juany> ciao
[00:48] <juany> !list
[00:49] <paolons> hi
[00:49] <alexfpms> kostkon, ??? generic ?
[00:49] <kostkon> alexfpms, ??
[00:50] <alexfpms> kostkon, i have 64bit and uname -r gives me: 3.5.0-17-generic
[00:50] <kostkon> alexfpms, you have 64bit cpu but the 32bit version of ubuntu
[00:50] <alexfpms> kostkon, but uname -m gives: x86_64
[00:50] <alexfpms> kostkon, no
[00:50] <kostkon> alexfpms, right
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> alexfpms: -r   just gives the release, there are 32bit and 64bit versions of each release
[00:52] <alexfpms> kostkon,
[00:52] <alexfpms> ActionParsnip, exactly
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> alexfpms: -m   shows the machine which is the arch of the kernel :)
[00:52] <wabash> ActionParsnip: Do you ever have problems with xfce where say, you can't move a window with alt-F7 down or to the right?
[00:53] <alexfpms> ActionParsnip, ok unama -a to show all the info
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> wabash: not when I used it, I use LXDE now
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> alexfpms: true but if you want specific bits you can add switches :)
[00:53] <Arizona_bay> test
[00:54] <xx> okay
[00:54] <wabash> ActionParsnip: How do you like that? Is it stripped down a bit compared to XFCE?
[00:54] <xx> can i instal the updated vversion of ubuntu with installing updates?
[00:54] <alexfpms> ActionParsnip, ok what do uname -p ?
[00:54] <hot_wheelz> in 12.10 anyone had sound then lost it?
[00:54] <alexfpms> ActionParsnip, it gives processor
[00:54] <xx> i have ubuntu on dual boot and im scared some files will be lost.
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> xx: you can upgrade from Lucid to Precise as you are upgrading to the next LTS
[00:55] <k1l_> xx: yes. you can upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 through the LTS upgrade
[00:55] <xx> LTS?
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> xx: Long term support
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> xx, Back it up before upgrading, personally I would clone it to be safe.
[00:56] <xx> wilee-nilee,  what are the risk that some of my files would be destroyed?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> hot_wheelz: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*   wait 10 seconds then try sound
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> xx: you will have backups if your data is important
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> xx, It is not the risk here is it can you afford to have anything bad happen.
[00:57] <wabash> ActionParsnip: Can you do most nifty things in LDXE that you can with XFCE?
[00:57] <xx> not really wilee-nilee
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> wabash: what do you need?
[00:58] <xx> i suppose then ill upgrade some other time
[00:58] <xx> i just really need to fix my wireless quickly
[00:58] <wabash> ActionParsnip: Well, I liked gnome 2.x. It worked really well for me for programming. Gnome 3 does not; it gets in my way I feel. So I'm looking for what's closest to Gnome3: XFCE or LXDE. I use XFCE on Fedora now.  It's a bit clunky sometimes.
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> xx: Is the system a laptop?
[00:58] <xx> yes aCTION
[00:58] <xx> ActionParsnip, *
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> wabash: xfce is probably closer
[00:59] <wabash> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks.
[00:59] <wabash> Anyone here know if Gnome3 with tweaks comes very close to Gnome 2?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> xx: then use a wired connection and get updates as well as install the drivers there, broadcom are the easiest to install
[00:59] <bubblehouse> hello: ok, attempting to boot first install on hp e-Vectra, now goes to boot: prompt without doing anything.  Attempted "install" and says "could not find kernel image: install
[01:00] <xx> !broadcom
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> bubblehouse: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[01:01] <bubblehouse> ActionParsnip: just suddenly started loading right now... was at boot: prompt and then just started on its own
[01:01] <bubblehouse> at splash screen now.
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> xx: like I said, your release has 6 months of life left in it. After then you will get no updates and no support anywhere
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> bubblehouse: what video chip do you use?
[01:02] <xx> action what about one one osiric whatever that distro was called?
[01:02] <xx> version* not distro :p
[01:02] <bubblehouse> not sure yet.  Just got this CPU from someone, trying to load up lubuntu, sorry I'm so uninformed.
[01:03] <bubblehouse> it's attempting to load.  will let you know once I get a cli back or something
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> xx: Oneiric Ocelot - Ubuntu 11.10   also dies on April 2013
[01:04] <cloud__> hello everybody
[01:04] <xx> oh wow so i need to change my tower too :<
[01:04] <xx> i hope Precise is better than Oneiric
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> xx: lets put it simply. In April 2013, the only 2 releases supported on the desktop will be Precise (Ubuntu 12.04) and Quantal (12.10) as well as Lucid on the server
[01:04] <xx> IT BETTER BE BETTER :p
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> xx: you don't need to change anything, just install the newer release
[01:05] <xx> and back my stuff up before that
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> xx: why do you not already have a backup?
[01:05] <cloud__> i think you could simply go on with what you have...
[01:05] <cloud__> couldn't you?
[01:06] <xx> i dont back my stuff up for some stupid reason accipter
[01:06] <xx> ActionParsnip,
[01:06] <xx> its very stupid of me
[01:06] <cloud__> hello ActionParsnip
[01:06] <tom89> what a good backup for ubuntu
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> cloud__: howdy
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> tom89: a nice big USB HDD is cheap and easy
[01:07] <ekaj> how does ESXi compare to Ubuntu erver when it comes to hosting VMs?
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> tom89, I use clonezilla for clones and grsync for home
[01:07] <cloud__> ActionParsnip,  writing from lubuntu, after your advices on partitions etc
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> cloud__: sweet
[01:07] <cloud__> ActionParsnip,  i just said goodbye to microsoft
[01:07] <luc_> Gooplus.fr do you like ?
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> cloud__, Did Balmer rant at you. ;)
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> cloud__: hehe enjoy dude :)
[01:08] <cloud__> wilee-nilee,  i hope so
[01:08] <tom89> I will try clonezilla
[01:08] <cloud__> :D
[01:09] <cloud__> now i just knew about a broser, xxxsomething
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> tom89, You can do whole HD's or partitions, and it also saves the mbr.
[01:09] <cloud__> browser
[01:09] <cloud__> don't know if it's worth installing ir
[01:09] <cloud__> it
[01:09] <minas> can I change to pci=noacpi without logging into ubuntu? (because I cant :) )
[01:10] <minas> I mean from grub or something
[01:10] <Faceless> I just added a user with "adduser"
[01:11] <Faceless> And when i enter "users"
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> minas: hold SHIFT at boot
[01:11] <Faceless> the new user wont show up
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> Faceless: how about if you run:   groups username
[01:11] <alexfpms> Faceless, man users
[01:11] <luc_> hello, I am looking for information on the black SEO. there is SEO software for ubuntu?
[01:12] <alexfpms> Faceless, users - print the user names of users currently logged in to the current host
[01:12] <Faceless> oh
[01:12] <Faceless> thank you
[01:14] <minas> ActionParnship: At boot of ubuntu? at the screen where I choose to boot ubuntu/windows 7 etc?
[01:14] <minas> or after I selected to boot into ubuntu
[01:14] <minas> ?
[01:14] <luc_> for {spin} or autosubmit in free directory
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> minas: press E on the ubuntu kernel and then you can add it on the same line as:   quiet splash
[01:16] <Faceless> but when i try to use "chown guest:guest folder" it acts as there is no "guest"-user
[01:16] <craigbass1976> I've got a laptop with no trackpad buttons.  One finger tap is like the left button.  A two fingered tap is like the right click.  Any idea what's used usually for emulating clicking both buttons?
[01:17] <alexfpms> Faceless, there is no guest user
[01:17] <Faceless> ok
[01:17] <Faceless> why?
[01:17] <Faceless> i used adduser guest
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> Faceless: the OS comes with a guest account......
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> Faceless: why are you making another?
[01:18] <minas> ActionParnship: thanks a lot!
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> minas: now you are booted you can add it permanently using the desktop OS :)
[01:19] <Faceless> idk actually, i was going to make an account for my friends to access my ftp-server
[01:20] <cloud__> my god, this is very amazing, guys. i used linux a lot of time ago, when lxde was just born, and i had to do a lot of things just to watch a youtube video. it's really impressive to see how much things have changed... just wanted to thank you all for the advices, and say "see you soon"
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> Faceless: then I'd choose a different name, like his name...
[01:20] <alexfpms> Faceless, what does command "adduser guest" said ?
[01:21] <alexfpms> Faceless, it created guest folder ?
[01:21] <Faceless> nothing special
[01:21] <Faceless> yeah
[01:21] <Faceless> just like if i created a normal user
[01:21] <alexfpms> Faceless, cat /etc/passwd is there guest inside ?
[01:22] <Faceless> yes
[01:23] <alexfpms> Faceless, so normally it is here
[01:23] <alexfpms> Faceless, try log out, log in
[01:23] <Faceless> with the actual user
[01:23] <Faceless> ?
[01:23] <alexfpms> yes
[01:24] <Faceless> ok, now?
[01:24] <alexfpms> yes
[01:24] <Immatix> I've installed a basic mail server package using tasksel install mail-server, and I have IMAP working properly with Thunderbird. However, I can't send email. I get "Relay access denied" from Postfix. ideas?
[01:24] <hot_wheelz> any updates on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1064621
[01:24] <intuxicated> hi guys
[01:25] <Faceless> "guest" is still there
[01:25] <alexfpms> Faceless, what is the problem so ?
[01:25] <tdlguik1c> chicago
[01:25] <tdlguik1c> chicagotall
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> hot_wheelz: tried the alsa ppa?
[01:26] <intuxicated_> hi again
[01:26] <Vka> hey guys, having big trouble with "general protection fault" mode. I have a black screen but the mouse seems to move, altought i cannot do anything with the keyboard but the pritn-screen does work "i only hear the click". I'm now supposed to install a patch for the program that caused this, and i know how to do that. I only don't know how to get out of this GPF mode. Please help!
[01:26] <tdlguik1c> chicagotallstrange
[01:27] <cakeboss> HEy guys. I am trying to mount a raw disk as a loopback device. There is an error I am being given, "you must specify the filesystem type". Anyone have any ideas?
[01:27] <mikubuntu> am i mistaken?  i thought that microsoft had made .odt files readable on windows machines?  i sent an official document/letter to a city office today and they replied saying that the file couldn't be opened and displayed this msg: "”The file 2012 11 1CityofCoralSprings cannot be opened because there are problems with the contents.  The file is corrupt and cannot be opened.”
[01:27] <Faceless> i want to run "chown guest:guest <folder>"
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: libreoffice can export to PDF and you can then send that
[01:28] <intuxicated_> i have an external sound card , name is EDIROL, it works fine, but if i unplug and plug it back system wont recognize it, any idea ? i try to restart  alsa but no luck
[01:28] <alexfpms> Faceless, what groups guest says ?
[01:28] <Faceless> "filetransfer"
[01:28] <minas> ActionParnship: I edited /etc/default/grub, added acpi=off, sudo update-grub and now it works
[01:29] <minas> thanks again
[01:29] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: I know that, and I will -- but, still the question -- isn't microsoft SUPPOSED to be able to read .odt?
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: no idea, try asking in ##windows
[01:29] <alexfpms> Faceless, groups guest gives filetransfer ?
[01:29] <freetown2> anybody here managed to get iOS 6 devices to print via cups?
[01:29] <intuxicated_> no idea ?
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: and you mean MS OFFICE is able to read odt, Microsoft is a company, not a software
[01:30] <Faceless> yes, i added it to the "filetransfer"-group
[01:30] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: yes, OFFICE
[01:30] <afidegnum> hello, pls what's the correct cron job formula? I am trying to run a cron at every 30 mins of every hours, everyday 30 * * * * wget -O - -q -t 1 http://www.thestorecomplex.com/cron.php
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: there is a difference
[01:30] <alexfpms> Faceless, so chown guest:guest wont work because there is no group guest
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: can it connect to http printers?
[01:31] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: I HATE MICROSOFT
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: ok......
[01:31] <Faceless> but when i TAB after "chown " my username fills in automatically
[01:31] <alexfpms> Faceless, when you create new user, the default group it creates is the same as the user name
[01:31] <cakeboss> Anyone have any ideas?
[01:31] <Faceless> so i should have entered "filetransfer:guest"?
[01:32] <alexfpms> Faceless, but you changed the default group by filetransfer
[01:32] <alexfpms> Faceless, chow guest:filetranfer
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> cakeboss: what filename are you trying to mount?
[01:32] <alexfpms> Faceless, user:group
[01:32] <Faceless> ok
[01:32] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, http printers? nope, it won't 'see' them because they won't advertise image/urf support
[01:33] <Faceless> but when i TAB at "chown gu" nothing fills in?
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: you could share the printer with samba, can the OS connect to windows shared printers?
[01:33] <freetown2> except for one very new printer that we will soon put away
[01:33] <alexfpms> Faceless, not gu but gru
[01:33] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, iOS 6. As in them dumb tablets that do airprinting?
[01:34] <alexfpms> Faceless, *gro
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: not used one, I refuse  to buy apple products
[01:34] <cakeboss> ActionParsnip: I am trying to mount a raw file through a loopback device
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> cakeboss: so its an image of a CD? Or something else?
[01:34] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, yeah, not my choice either. schools here are kinda sold on Apple crap
[01:34] <Faceless> well, i expected it to fill in guest from gu
[01:35] <Jordan_U> cakeboss: If it's a disk image, rather than an image of a fileystem, then you'll need to expose the partitions using kpartx first.
[01:35] <cakeboss> ActionParsnip: I converted a .vmdk to a .raw I am trying to convert it to a .iso...So I guess now it is just an image?
[01:35] <alexfpms> Faceless, sorry i've mistaken
[01:35] <Jordan_U> cakeboss: What is your end goal?
[01:35] <Faceless> np
[01:35] <cakeboss> Jordan_U: To convert this .vmdk to a .iso
[01:35] <alexfpms> Faceless, so when you do chown guest:filetranfer does it work ?
[01:35] <Faceless> no
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: http://leimobile.com/how-to-setup-airprint-on-ubuntu-11-10-desktop/
[01:36] <Jordan_U> cakeboss: A: That's not an end goal B: That's not possible. What is your end goal?
[01:36] <alexfpms> Faceless, and what does it says ?
[01:36] <cakeboss> Jordan_U: To see the contents of JanusVM. I am using: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/convert-vm-iso
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> cakeboss: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-mount-ntfs-vmware-virtual-disk-image-vmdk-readwrite.html   why convert it
[01:36] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, ahem, it works with iOS 5 but not with iOS 6 in which Apple has helpfully changed its printing
[01:37] <cakeboss> ActionParsnip: Read what I said to Jordan_U
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: is it not the same method?
[01:38] <Faceless> alexfpms: uhm
[01:38] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, nope. They now do urf instead of pdf -_-
[01:38] <Jordan_U> cakeboss: Since the image is presumably of a virtual drive with partitions, and you mount partitions not drives, you first need to make the partitions accessible. That can be done with "sudo kpartx -a /path/to/disk.image".
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: sounds greeeeeeat
[01:38] <Faceless> alexfpms: it seems like it worked now
[01:38] <alexfpms> Faceless, do you know that you have to run it as root ?
[01:38] <cakeboss> Jordan_U: Thanks
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12254866
[01:38] <Jordan_U> cakeboss: Then you can mount the actual partition, which can be accessed via /dev/mapper/loopXpY
[01:38] <Jordan_U> cakeboss: You're welcome.
[01:38] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, i had to modify the avahi server files to advertise urf. Yeah, I know. I'd like to black out Infinity Loop
[01:38] <cakeboss> Thanks again
[01:39] <Faceless> alexfpms: yes, but i think the problem solved after i rebooted
[01:39] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, been there, done that and no go.
[01:39] <alexfpms> Faceless, chown gu + tab doesn't work beacause you are not in the filetransfer group
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: you can copy a PDF to the server, then run:  lpr filename.pdf   in an SSH session and it will print
[01:39] <vespakoen> Hey guys I am looking for a good, lightweight email client, gmail is nice but for multiple accounts. it sucks =) thunderbird is way to heavy and slow (strange since I am on a i5 with and 4gb ram hehe) and I need it to support html templates.. any ideas?
[01:40] <Faceless> alexfpms: oh, ok
[01:40] <Jordan_U> cakeboss: Note that that's explicitly stated in the website you linked to, "GOTCHA 1: If your VM has partitions, it's a little tricker. You'll need to setup the loop device, partition mappings and finally mount the rootfs partition. You will need kpartx to setup the mappings. :".
[01:40] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, thanks, I'll tell that to the rest of the school. :-)
[01:40] <Faceless> alexfpms: well, thanks a lot anyway!
[01:40] <alexfpms> Faceless, ;)
[01:40] <jrib> vespakoen: if you like text-based apps, consider mutt
[01:41] <cakeboss> Jordan_U: Yeah I was just about to ask about that haha
[01:41] <Jordan_U> cakeboss: :)
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: well if they want to buy proprietary stuff which doesn't play nice with anything but itself, you're gonna get issues
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: could buy an airprint server and hook it up
[01:42] <vespakoen> jrib, I need something with HTML template support =P
[01:42] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, heh, did I mention that even cups on Mac OS X has issues?
[01:42] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, ah well, i guess I shall just have to put on a big :-D
[01:43] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, thanks
[01:43] <willdabeast> kimberly, wadup
[01:43] <cakeboss> Jordan_U: I am getting a bunch of jargon
[01:43] <cakeboss> Jordan_U: When I use the first command in the instructions I get, "losetup: no permission to look at /dev/loop<N>
[01:44] <cakeboss> "
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=i:aps,k:airprint%20print%20server&tag=duckduckgo-d-20    nice and cheap
[01:45] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, nevermind, i have in addition to supporting airprinting the need to tracking print jobs and charge them to accounts. I guess I will just have to go MacPro + Papercut and not Ubuntu + Papercut
[01:45] <freetown2> s/tracking/track/
[01:46] <TCorwin> Quick question, does anyone know if Ubuntu provides free CD Distributions for advertisment and such?
[01:46] <vespakoen> going to give "evolution" a shot
[01:49] <zykotick9> vespakoen: fyi, if you find thunderbird "heavy" wait 'till you see evolution.
[01:50] <freetown2> vespakoen, how about going KDE and giving Kmail a try?
[01:51] <freetown2> vespakoen, there is also opera...
[01:52] <Cong> everything in KDE looks better
[01:54] <wastrel> [
[01:55] <vespakoen> freetown2, kk, thanks, maybe I need to archive stuff, or something else is wrong with thunderbird, I dunno..
[01:55]  * vespakoen check out Kmail and opera
[01:55] <vespakoen> checks*
[01:56] <freetown2> vespakoen, there's nothing wrong with thunderbird. it just tends to consume an inordinate amount of RAM especially if you have thousands of emails in your mailboxes
[01:57] <vespakoen> yeh, it's crazy, and it seems to not even get my mail haha
[01:57] <vespakoen> but maybe that's because I probably went opening them in gmail first haha, nvm
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> Cong: you can theme stuff to look how you want....
[02:01] <luoluoluo> hi there, how to mark all mail as read in ubuntu?
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> luoluoluo: in which client?
[02:02] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i just found out yesterday that you can theme midnight-commander, not that i have ;)
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: nice :)
[02:03] <luoluoluo> ActionParsnip: /var/spool/mail/root
[02:03] <amews_aj-study> testdisk already found my missing partition. Is there anyway I can tell it not to look for more missing partitions? The rest of the partitions should be left unchanged
[02:03] <luoluoluo> in command
[02:04] <luoluoluo> I can't google an answer...
[02:05] <mibr001> while trying to install gui dj software i installed libdjconsole it failed halfway through and will not repair i am unable to install or uninstall anything using gui or terminal help
[02:06] <zykotick9> mibr001: have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install", if so, what is the error?
[02:07] <mibr001> E: Unable to locate package install
[02:08] <zykotick9> mibr001: that looks like a syntax error...
[02:10] <mibr001> E: Sub-process /usr/bun/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:11] <tomreyn> i'm bored, anyone needs help?
[02:12] <c2tarun> tomreyn, if you can help me in Rooting android phone and partitioning SD Card?
[02:12] <tomreyn> with ubuntu
[02:13] <mibr001> cannot un/install software after failed libdjconsole install error details :installArchives() failed: (Reading database ...
[02:13] <mibr001> (Reading database ... 5%
[02:13] <mibr001> (Reading database ... 10%
[02:13] <mibr001> (Reading database ... 15%
[02:13] <mibr001> (Reading database ... 20%
[02:13] <FloodBot1> mibr001: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:15] <mibr001> note to self DO NOT copy and paste error details here
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> luoluoluo: don't the read ones just get moved to another folder (they do in qmail)
[02:15] <Titomen> anybody with some experience on software raid ubuntu
[02:15] <somethinginteres> how can I fix a "device or resource busy error" when trying to work with my tv tuner?
[02:15] <luoluoluo> ActionParsnip: I finally figured out, enter "mail" to go into system mail list and enter "seen :u"
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> luoluoluo: ahh, gotcha
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> luoluoluo: nice
[02:16] <luoluoluo> ActionParsnip: thanks for the reply
[02:16] <mibr001> how can i give someone error details without flooding here
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> luoluoluo: I try. Glad you got the gold'
[02:16] <mibr001> also who can help me
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: usehttp://pastie.org or similar
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: you may need to force install the deb
[02:18] <RobbyF> hey guys, just insatlled 12.10 but those nouveau drivers are awful and causing tearing but my nvidia won't install, any tips?
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> RobbyF: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[02:19] <mibr001> im not very good in terminal can you give me the command?
[02:19] <RobbyF> doesn't work, gives me the no unity blank desktop look
[02:19] <TCorwin> Quick question, does anyone know if Ubuntu provides free CD Distributions for advertisment and such?
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: copy the output then go to http://pastie.org and paste the text there, hit paste then when the page changes, copy the new address bar and paste that here
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: its not very much to do with terminal, so being 'good with the terminal' isn't important
[02:20] <mibr001> sorry i read the wrong comment there :)
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> TCorwin: you can download Ubuntu for free,or buy CDs at the Ubuntu shop or even on Ebay if your connection is slow
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> TCorwin, Canonical stopped the free cd's awhile back.
[02:21] <mibr001> http://pastie.org/5169892
[02:22] <TCorwin> ActionParsnip and wilee-nilee: I'm doing a presentation to promote Ubuntu and help current users with basic issues in 12.04 and 12.10. i was mainly looking for promotional CDs that they would provide.
[02:23] <willdabeast> how can I check in terminal whether I have openGL on?
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> TCorwin: how would they be different to the ISO you can already download....for free
[02:23] <somethinginteres> ActionParsnip: I've been getting X crashes with nvidia current on my Geforce 8800.
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libdjconsole-data_0.1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: find the source of the package and report the bug, there are duplicate files and the package manager doesn't like that
[02:25] <TCorwin> ActionParsnip: I don't have any blank CDs. And i was curious if they provided free CDs for promotional reasons.Apparently not though.
[02:25] <OerHeks> TCorwin, some country's do have local teams to give away cd on promotion events. latest 12.10 doesn't fit on a cd+r anymore.
[02:25] <mibr001> thanks :) i think everything is gonna work now
[02:25] <luoluoluo> ActionParsnip: it seems "seen :u" is working on centos, but cannot work on ubuntu, I am still keep finding the solution
[02:26] <torontoyes> Is there a way to reinstall ubuntu without losing your previous install?
[02:26] <willdabeast> how can I check in terminal whether I have openGL on?
[02:26] <torontoyes> I mean.. there are some things I would love to over write
[02:26] <torontoyes> I am hung in my boot process with a black screen
[02:26] <torontoyes> I'm clueless what to do
[02:27] <TCorwin> OerHeks: Iwas looking for 12.04 LTS on a CD+R. And thats why i asked, cause i am part of a group, just without any CDs.
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: you could install over the top but you'll probably get issues. Far neater and more likely to get fewer issues with a reinstall then restore data from backup
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: what video chip do you use?
[02:27] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: older Pc.. don't remember.
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> wildc4rd: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[02:27] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: but everything installs ok
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: try the boot option: nomodeset
[02:28] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: I have vmware on there.. and there is some important ant stuff there.
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: why do you not have a backup?
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, ^^^^ as wildc4rd
[02:28] <MartynKeigher> hey all
[02:28] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: Cause I'm a nut
[02:28] <torontoyes> I will use live cd and back up
[02:28] <torontoyes> I have a drive to throw everything
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: once you get the data. 1, backup your so called 'important'stuff.  then 2. Backup the stuff REGULARLY
[02:29] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: Understood
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: boot the VM to a live CD and you can mount the partition and access the data
[02:30] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: what do you mean?
[02:30] <torontoyes> I can run the vmware image from live cd?
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: I can't phrase it much differently, make the VM boot to the ISO and you can mount the partitions on the virtual drive and access the data
[02:31] <torontoyes> ohh
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: can you see how much easier this would be if you had a backup
[02:31] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: hmm.. yes
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> torontoyes, This virtualbox?
[02:32] <torontoyes> wilee-nilee: no, vmware
[02:32] <mibr001> still same problem...
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: I see this every day, people without backups when their data is apparently important, there is no excuse and its completely frustrating to have to dig people out, when it's so easily avoidable
[02:32] <torontoyes> wait. I have some strange messages in the prompt
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> hallelujah ActionParsnip
[02:33]  * ActionParsnip sighs
[02:33] <torontoyes> [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[02:33] <torontoyes> then...
[02:33] <torontoyes> [sdb] No Caching mode page present
[02:34] <torontoyes> what does that mean?
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, I do always chuckle when you phish with the use your backup. ;)
[02:35] <justoboy> hello
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> wilee-nilee: people need educating. Trying to avoid people learning the hard way, its getting ridiculous now. Makes life easier for us as we don't have to start advising data recovery which takes time and effort.
[02:36] <bandit-led> any one else experiencing random lockups that need a hard reset to get back from??
[02:37] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: I don't know why I take backing up for granted
[02:38] <TCorwin> Since were on the topic of Virtual Machines, my ISO for Ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10 will load for about 20 seconds and stop. This would be easier to show if someone had TeamViewer.
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: you aren't alone
[02:39] <TCorwin> Amy Suggestions on how to fix this?
[02:39] <TCorwin> any*
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, I agree, I try to inform people, one would think that having to spend hours fixing something at best would be enough, let alone the loss of data.
[02:40] <mibr001> http://pastie.org/5169971 i tried sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libdjconsole-data_0.1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb nothing changed
[02:40] <mibr001> i do not need libdjconsole
[02:42] <brunolopesjn> hi
[02:42] <brunolopesjn> anybody can help me?
[02:42] <ekim1> Is it only for linux or can it be used on windows.
[02:43] <brunolopesjn> i use ubuntu
[02:43] <TCorwin> ekim1: can what be used?
[02:43] <basketballstar> sync flash drive with ubuntu 1
[02:43] <Diamondcite> I use arch , but why not ask your question anyway :)
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: where are these debs from?
[02:44] <ekim1> sorry wrong chat....too many going at once!
[02:44] <brunolopesjn> i change unconsciously my user group, and i need know the standard groups of a user to fix it
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> brunolopesjn: $USER adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[02:45] <mibr001> http://hivelocity.dl.sourceforge.net/project/djplay/libdjconsole/0.1.2/libdjconsole_0.1.2-2_i386.deb
[02:47] <totallylost> Can someone help me with my VM?
[02:48] <MartynKeigher> wassup!?
[02:49] <totallylost> Ubuntu 12.04 will not load while i use the ISO in my VM. It starts and runs for 20 seconds the a bunch of text comes up.
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> totallylost: which ISO are you using?
[02:50] <totallylost> ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> totallylost: did you MD5 test the ISO?
[02:51] <brunolopesjn> ActionParsnip: Thanks a lot!!!
[02:51] <totallylost> ActionParsnip: im sorry, what is that?
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | totallylost
[02:51] <Guest51505> hey guys. quick question. installing ubuntu 12.10 to a USB stick (not a live USB, but a full install). what file system do you recommend? ext4? fat32? what's fastest on a standard USB stick? you can install to fat32, right?
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest51505: ext2 will cause fewer writes but doesn't have a journal. Ext4 has a journal but will write more
[02:52] <totallylost> ubottu: thanks for the insformation.
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest51505: Fat32 isn't suitable for Linux installs
[02:52] <Guest51505> ActionParsnip: and a journal makes it... safer?
[02:52] <Guest51505> i guess i'll forget Fat32 then :)
[02:52] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: Guest51505:  ext4 can be used without a journal as well.
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest5it helps with sudden power offs and such
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> i gotta split anyhoo
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> peace
[02:53] <Guest51505> Jordan_U: i don't want to rock the boat too much. i'll go with ext4
[02:53] <Jordan_U> Guest51505: A good choice :)
[02:54] <Guest51505> Jordan_U: i feel like i'm in the posh department store for file systems
[02:54] <mibr001>  http://hivelocity.dl.sourceforge.net/project/djplay/libdjconsole/0.1.2/libdjconsole_0.1.2-2_i386.deb open in software center failed during install i then followed the instruction to run sudo apt-get install -f in terminal which did nothing then i tried this sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libdjconsole-data_0.1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb which did nothing throughout this whole time this is my error http://pastie.org/5169971
[02:55] <willdabeast> Is there a way to turn down your fan speed in terminal?
[02:58] <mibr001> sorry for the novel btw
[02:59] <zoktar> has anyone been getting alot of segfaults lately from various media players, (seems to be mostly mp4 and mkv files) ?
[02:59] <zoktar> for 12.10
[03:00] <Titomen> i need some adivse on instaling ubuntu 12.04 on raid 1 boot and rest on raid5 +lvm
[03:01] <zoktar> iv tried removing any codecs and libs assosiated, minus the ones that uninstall half your system,
[03:04] <mibr001> can someone let me know if youre working?
[03:04] <exonarthex> good day
[03:04] <exonarthex> im having an issue with ubuntu 12.10
[03:04] <exonarthex> i have installed fglrx driver on my asus k42dy laptop and i can't see anything on the desktop
[03:04] <exonarthex> no launcher or toolbars
[03:04] <exonarthex> please help me
[03:06] <mibr001> try logging out and logging in ubuntu classic or 2d or whatever its called in this release
[03:07] <exonarthex> i can only logout using ctrl+alt+delete
[03:08] <cakeboss> Hey guys. I am trying to setup a loop device, partition mappings, and mount the rootfs partition. When I enter, "loopdev=$(losetup -s -f file.raw)" and I get, "No permission to look at /dev/loop<N>" as my response...what am I doing wrong?
[03:09] <mibr001> and youre then at your login screen click the gear on the password box and select ubuntu classic or 2d or whatever the "old" one is called then login this will use different graphics settings and therefore drivers so you can fix you real problem
[03:11] <cakeboss> Anyone???
[03:12] <cakeboss> Actually it is, "losesetup: no permission to look at /dev/loop<N>"
[03:13] <mibr001> im not very smart but if youre in terminal are you using sudo?
[03:13] <cakeboss> mibr001: yes
[03:13] <ekaj> Does it ask for a password?
[03:13] <cakeboss> ekaj: yes
[03:13] <ekaj> What user are you?
[03:14] <cakeboss> ekaj: the main account? I am using sudo so I thought it gave me root permissions
[03:14] <Mayhew> cakeboss: Ubuntu non-LTS releases are glorified betas. I would just use 12.04, or wait until 12.10.1.
[03:14] <cakeboss> Mayhew: I don't understand what that has to do with anything?
[03:15] <cakeboss> Mayhew: I am in the process of converting a .vmdk to a .iso. I am not doing anything with the OS itself.
[03:15] <Mayhew> cakeboss: sorry, meant to say that to exonarthex
[03:15] <cakeboss> Mayhew: ah lol
[03:16] <exonarthex> cakeboss: should i download and install 12.04 then?
[03:16] <cakeboss> exonarthex: see Mayhew
[03:17] <philllllijw> I'm installing ubuntu and I would like to know more about LVM. Essentailly what I want to do is have my /home as a separate partition. Is there an option for that?
[03:18] <Mayhew> exonarthex: Ubuntu non-LTS releases are glorified betas. I would just use 12.04, or wait until 12.10.1.
[03:18] <psusi> philllllijw, you might want to read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[03:18] <mibr001> person with graphics problem who were you
[03:19] <psusi> philllllijw, you can have a /home partition without LVM, but LVM has other advantages, also has disadvantages though
[03:19] <philllllijw> psusi, what are the disadvantages
[03:19] <psusi> philllllijw, Windows doesn't recognize lvm volumes... it's a bit more difficult to setup
[03:19] <mibr001> and i just fixed my problem yay! i uninstalled djplay my problem was from a completely different application now im fixing and updating libraries and im good
[03:20] <balleyne> Just upgraded to 12.10, and when I open Gwibber, I just see a blank grey area where my updates used to be. When I click Accounts, nothing comes up (and I don't see Broadcast Accounts in Settings anymore). Used to have Twitter and Identi.ca accounts configured, MIA now...
[03:20] <philllllijw> psusi, I probably don't need all the fanciness LVM provides
[03:20] <psusi> philllllijw, the normal gui Ubuntu installer doesn't support it so you have to do some command line management basically
[03:21] <psusi> philllllijw, but if you're comfortable on the command line, it has some significant advantages, especially if you tend to use multiple disks and multiple Linux installs
[03:21] <mibr001> who did i tell id be right back log off click the ubuntu symbol on the password box select ubuntu 2d and log in you should be ok
[03:22] <mibr001> now that my computer isnt having a seizure good night my friends
[03:22] <philllllijw> psusi, i'm doing a netinstall and i'm fairly comfy with cmdline.
[03:22] <psusi> philllllijw, then you might like the features LVM provides... see the wiki entry I wrote for more info... but if you just want a separate /home partition, you can get by without it
[03:23] <philllllijw> psusi, I'll just separate /home for now. Any idea if I can do that easily through the curses interface?
[03:23] <psusi> if you find yourself occationally setting up partitions to install Linux distros to for testing, resize partitions or move them between disks, then lvm may be for you... otherwise, might not be worth the bother
[03:24] <psusi> philllllijw, you can do that easily with the regular GUI Ubuntu installer
[03:24] <philllllijw> psusi, I dont have any intentions of installing various versions of linux. I do watn teh option to overwrite my installation without losing my /home directory though
[03:25] <psusi> philllllijw, you can do that just fine without LVM
[03:25] <psusi> philllllijw, just create a /home partition with the regular gui installer and set it to be mounted at /home
[03:25] <philllllijw> psusi, ok, I can't seem to figure it out using the installer
[03:26] <balleyne> how can I compare my Ubuntu install to a default install? I feel like I'm missing some recommended packages...
[03:26] <psusi> philllllijw, you also don't need a separate /home partition to keep your home directory if you reinstall Ubuntu... just choose manual partitioning, configure the /home partition mount point, and DON'T check the format box
[03:27] <psusi> philllllijw, you can even reinstall and preserve your home directory without having a separate partition if you want these days
[03:28] <psusi> you just have to chose manual partitioning, and do NOT check the format box is all
[03:29] <psusi> time for bed, night
[03:31] <|Anthony|> argh... i couldn't get clonezilla to boot from a usb drive following their directions
[03:31] <|Anthony|> they say that to make a bootable iso to use unetbootin
[03:32] <balleyne> what package do "Broadcast Accounts" come from?
[03:32] <|Anthony|> think i could use brasero instead?
[03:33] <jetsaredim> is there any way to prevent my system from coming to a complete crawl every time I open the unity menu/lens??
[03:33] <|Anthony|> jetsaredim, what are your system specs?
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> |Anthony|, I use this usb loader with clonezilla and other ISO's http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[03:35] <|Anthony|> ah
[03:35] <jetsaredim> |Anthony|: AMD 64 X4, 16G DDR3, 256G SSD, Radeon HD 1G RAM
[03:35] <|Anthony|> i remember looking at that a WHILE back
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> |Anthony|, This one makes unetbootin look like the neighbors ugly child.
[03:36] <|Anthony|> jetsaredim, i don't think that should be an issue on that hardware
[03:36] <|Anthony|> lol wilee-nilee
[03:36] <jetsaredim> |Anthony|: neither do I
[03:36] <ahmad_> hi guys
[03:36] <jetsaredim> hence my question
[03:36] <|Anthony|> understood
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> notice the generic gender hehe
[03:37] <|Anthony|> jetsaredim, what cpu is that?
[03:38] <ahmad_> can someone please help me figure out why vt-x virtualization is not working on virtualbox 4.2.2 i tried egrep 'vmx|svm' /proc/cpuinfo and vt-x is supported (at least i think so)
[03:38] <jetsaredim> |Anthony|: er - sorry Athlon II X4 640
[03:39] <|Anthony|> oh
[03:39] <balleyne> how do I configure Gwibber accounts in 12.10?
[03:40] <|Anthony|> jetsaredim, it's not BEAST, but it should fit the bill. tbh i ditched gnome and unity in favor of xfce
[03:40] <|Anthony|> for the performance issues
[03:41] <jetsaredim> |Anthony|: yea - I've been leaning that way too
[03:41] <jetsaredim> that's my next step
[03:41] <|Anthony|> although i am using compiz and emerald and conky and cairo-dock
[03:41] <|Anthony|> lol
[03:41] <jetsaredim> yea i like the eye candy too
[03:41] <|Anthony|> ;)
[03:42] <jetsaredim> i wish there was a way to turn on/off the stupid lenses
[03:42] <|Anthony|> honestly i like it cause it's fairly easy to configure to my liking
[03:42] <jetsaredim> cause i don't need them
[03:43] <|Anthony|> some people like it.
[03:43] <|Anthony|> i'm not one of those people
[03:43] <|Anthony|> lol
[03:43]  * jetsaredim +1
[03:46] <abdobonna> no any meeting in #ubuntu-meeting ??
[03:46]  * xlogik is using a Nexus 7 running Android 4.1.1 (JRO03D)
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> jetsaredim, I believe you can remove them, but here is a link fro toggling them off.  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/lens-toggle-quickly-enable-disable.html
[03:46] <jetsaredim> xlogik: 4.1.1 is so last month
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> xlogik, Gotta root that sucker and get a cooler setup
[03:47] <xlogik> yeah thanks.... I'm running ROM that I'm fine with
[03:47] <DINESH> whats  tis?
[03:48] <DINESH> what is this ?
[03:49] <xlogik> trying out this client... pressing buttons ;-)
[03:49] <DINESH> hello ? anyone  please?
[03:50] <DINESH> what is this
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> DINESH, If you have a problem and need help ask.
[03:50] <jetsaredim> wilee-nilee: apparently lense toggle is only available for 12.04
[03:50] <DINESH> well what is going on here ?
[03:50] <DINESH> ok this is ubuntu channel sorry...:
[03:50] <DINESH> :)
[03:51] <DINESH> exit
[03:52] <trism> jetsaredim: the code is basically: mkdir /usr/share/unity/lenses.ignore/; mv /usr/share/unity/lenses/lensename/ /usr/share/unity/lenses.ignore/; and the reverse, I think uninstalling/reinstalling is nicer
[03:52] <philllllijw> so I basically accidentally installed nothing off of the netinstall. I want to install unity and wahtever else I need. What apt package do I install to get unity?
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> philllllijw, sudp apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> sudo*
[03:53] <philllllijw> perfect. I'll let that run for a bit and take a shower :)
[03:53] <philllllijw> ah, its asking me Y/n questions :(
[03:54] <jetsaredim> trism: are the lenses all similarly named packages?
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> philllllijw, You might need to install lightdm as well.
[03:54] <mrmcgibby> Isn't there a setting somewhere that allows me to have different monitors be able to switch workspaces seperately?
[03:54] <philllllijw> wilee-nilee, what is that
[03:54] <trism> jetsaredim: most lenses are: unity-lens-lensname;
[03:54] <jetsaredim> trism: kthx
[03:55] <decbot> speaking of unity, if I recently upgraded from xubuntu 9.10, to 12.04 (long afternoon), would unity be installed?
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> philllllijw, It is the light display manager
[03:55] <philllllijw> ok
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> philllllijw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[03:56] <philllllijw> oh, gdm replacement
[03:56] <philllllijw> i'll be back in 15min
[03:56] <|Anthony|> this is bullshit
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> decbot, If this is a stock xubuntu no you would have to install it.
[03:59] <Brazguy__32> testing
[03:59] <Brazguy__32> hi guys
[04:03] <tomreyn> test succeeded
[04:15] <misterhk> i have a question regarding screen tearing, I've posted about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2078890 if anyone could shed some light on my problem id appreciate it
[04:18] <|Anthony|> misterhk, are you comfortable editing your xorg.conf file?
[04:18] <misterhk> |Anthony|, yup
[04:18] <|Anthony|> ok... one sec i'll send a link
[04:19] <|Anthony|> misterhk, http://askubuntu.com/questions/198668/3-monitors-ubuntu-12-04-gnome-3-2-nvidia-cards-with-xrandr-or-xinerama/198701#198701
[04:19] <misterhk> |Anthony|, thanks
[04:19] <|Anthony|> disregard the fact that it is for triple monitors
[04:20] <|Anthony|> and look at the first Screen section
[04:20] <misterhk> ok
[04:20] <|Anthony|> notice the Option "TripleBuffer" "True"
[04:21] <misterhk> ah ic
[04:21] <|Anthony|> use that and also the sync to vblank options in nvidia-settings
[04:22] <hoylemd> Hey, I'm having a problemw ith my ubuntu server's ftp.  I'm trying to PUT a file to my home directory, but i keep getting 550 permission denied errors, even though i'm the directory owner.  Anyone know why this might be happening?
[04:23] <|Anthony|> hoylemd, when you ls the $HOME dir, is there a + at the end of the permissions?
[04:23] <hoylemd> you mean when i ls+l it?
[04:23] <hoylemd> ls -l rather
[04:23] <|Anthony|> sure... ls -l   ls -laX
[04:24] <|Anthony|> what ever floats your boat
[04:24] <|Anthony|> ;)
[04:24] <hoylemd> oh, because when i ls-l it, i just get the directory listing. only file/directory names
[04:24] <hoylemd> so the strict answer to your question is no
[04:25] <|Anthony|> sudo getfacl -R /home/insert_username_here
[04:25] <|Anthony|> or just getfacl -R blah blah
[04:25] <hoylemd> command not found
[04:26] <|Anthony|> i doubt you would have an acl without having set it up though
[04:26] <|Anthony|> ah k
[04:26] <hoylemd> got acl.  it listed a lot of stuff
[04:26] <|Anthony|> this is your server, or someone else? you own the physical machine?
[04:27] <hoylemd> it's my linode
[04:27] <|Anthony|> mmm
[04:27] <philllllijw> for some reason when I restart the system, it just hangs on the command line saying [ 2148.181083] Restarting system.
[04:27] <hoylemd> user::rwk group::r-x other::r-x
[04:27] <|Anthony|> rwk
[04:27] <|Anthony|> wtf is that
[04:27] <|Anthony|> should say rwx
[04:27] <hoylemd> it's what getfacl says
[04:28] <hoylemd> # file: home/hoylemd
[04:28] <hoylemd> # owner: hoylemd
[04:28] <hoylemd> # group: root
[04:28] <hoylemd> user::rwx
[04:28] <hoylemd> group::r-x
[04:28] <hoylemd> other::r-x
[04:28] <FloodBot1> hoylemd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <|Anthony|> yeah, rwx
[04:29] <hoylemd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1325582/
[04:29] <hoylemd> That's my output
[04:29] <|Anthony|> what about using scp. does that give you any issues?
[04:29] <|Anthony|> like ftp does
[04:30] <|Anthony|> or do you only have ftp access
[04:30] <hoylemd> haven't tried scp
[04:30] <|Anthony|> i doubt there is a configuration error on linode's part
[04:30] <elbeto> my wallpaper is dissapearing, i have to reset it every time i turn my computer on.  I am using xubunu 12.10
[04:33] <|Anthony|> fooey... even using clonezillas preferred method of installing on a usb drive (tuxboot) it still fails for me
[04:33] <akis> hi all. can i ask something? in update manager at software sources should or should not be checked the followings: Canonical Partners, Canonical Partners (surce code), Indipendent and Indipendent (source code)?
[04:33] <devish> does alsa base.conf exist here in 12.10 /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[04:33] <devish> i am unable to find it
[04:33] <hoylemd> scp isn't working either
[04:33] <|Anthony|> machine still says it
[04:33] <|Anthony|> s not a bootable disk
[04:33] <hoylemd> not even giving any feedback
[04:34] <|Anthony|> hoylemd, have you tried ssh? idk you might want to contact linode to see what their connection and authentication standards are
[04:35] <|Anthony|> obviously you have ssh access... lol
[04:35] <hoylemd> i have ssh access, and I'm 99.9% sure it's not a linode problem
[04:35] <jtrucks> anyone used rsyslog setup with tls? if so, any ideas on getting around an error like: error adding our certificate. GnuTLS error -64, message: 'Error while reading file.'
[04:36] <hoylemd> I'm getting dumb error messages from scp now
[04:36] <|Anthony|> hoylemd, you have sudo rights, right?
[04:36] <hoylemd> it's saying the file i'm uploading isn't a directory?
[04:36] <hoylemd> of course
[04:37] <|Anthony|> so theoretically you could adduser and see if it is just that you borked the file perms
[04:38] <tomreyn> jtrucks: http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/tls_cert_errmsgs.html -> GnuTLS error -64
[04:38] <hoylemd> my user definitely has write access to that directory
[04:38] <tomreyn> jtrucks: but no, i have not done it before
[04:38] <philllllijw> how do I open the damn console in unity?
[04:39] <tomreyn> philllllijw: do you mean a terminal window?
[04:39] <jtrucks> tomreyn: yeah, I'm working off that page, but thanks for helping out
[04:39] <|Anthony|> hoylemd, you're able to mkdir and touch and all that
[04:39] <philllllijw> tomreyn, aha, yes! I was searching for 'shell' or 'console' and forgot the word term apparently
[04:40] <hoylemd> THERE WE GO. man pages are too hard to read.  The problem was that my scp syntax was wrong.
[04:40] <hoylemd> but i'm still at square one: ftp is giving me access errors that don't make sense
[04:40] <tomreyn> jtrucks: ok, i'd try to check the file format with openssl, this can be easier to handle even though it's also not great
[04:40] <|Anthony|> hoylemd, which ftp client?
[04:41] <tomreyn> philllllijw: sounds like you went thrugh a long term search phase
[04:41] <hoylemd> filezilla and just the ftp tool
[04:41] <hoylemd> same problem either way.
[04:41] <jtrucks> tomreyn: oh, duh, openssl is a good suggestion. thanks :)
[04:41] <|Anthony|> but filezilla is able to connect, just can't move or upload files
[04:41] <|Anthony|> you can still crawl the directory tree
[04:42] <hoylemd> yes
[04:42] <tomreyn> devish: were you asking whether a file /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf is part of any package in  12.10 ?
[04:43] <tomreyn> devish: if so, you can either use apt-file or the web interface at http://packages.ubuntu.com to find out.
[04:43] <|Anthony|> hoylemd, what about downloading a file from the server?
[04:44] <hoylemd> works
[04:47] <tomreyn> akis: which of these repositories you use is very much up to you and your preferences.
[04:47] <hoylemd> i think i have a vsftpd configuation messed up
[04:50] <hoylemd> yeah, looks like i had "write_enable=YES" commented out
[04:50] <hoylemd> now i just ahve to figure out how to restrt vsftpd and i should be good
[04:51] <|Anthony|> sudo restart vsftpd
[04:51] <|Anthony|> i'm used to openssh
[04:52] <hoylemd> woohoo! fixed it!
[04:52] <hoylemd> hey... i bet that's what was wrong with my wordprss thing!
[04:52] <syntroPi> Any ideas how i could get sdhci_pci into the ubuntu server installer kernel to install it onto usdhc card?
[04:52] <akis> tomreyn: i understand and i know that. by default i can see that they are checked (at other software) Indipendent and Indipendent (source code)? why Canonical Partners, Canonical Partners (source code) aren't checked by default and what do they provide me if i will check them. will they provide me something important?
[04:54] <tomreyn> akis: canonical, the company behind ubuntu, has some contracts with other companies which make proprietary software. the results of these contracts are available in this repository.
[04:55] <tomreyn> it includes one variant of adobe flash player and reader, i think.
[04:57] <syntroPi> is there any location where i could browse the available kernel modules for ubuntu server installer kernel?
[04:57] <akis> tomreyn: thank you for clarification. so do i have to check them, am i loosing something important if i leave them uncheck (default) or should i check them?
[04:59] <tomreyn> akis: i couldn't tell what's important to you
[05:01] <akis> tomreyn: ok. i c. i leave them uncheck as default.
[05:07] <tomreyn> akis: (as an example) here's a list of packages in the partner repository for 12.10 x86_64: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/partner/binary-amd64/
[05:07] <tomreyn> you can also browse the directory structure of the extras ("independent") repositories this way.
[05:11] <akis> tomreyn: i realized that ubuntu center installed a 2nd Canonical Partners (other software) source and it was checked.  I got banned for it.
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[05:26] <FloodBot1> tdlguik1c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:26] <f00dMonsta> o_0
[05:26] <tomreyn> akis: if you really want to delete any notion of an apt source, for whatever reason, yes. but normally just disabling them is fine, and allows you to reenable them later.
[05:26] <tomreyn> !ops tdlguik1c
[05:28] <akis> tomreyn: yes i know that and i am following already this method. it is very convenient.
[05:28] <f00dMonsta> Since that random spambot tried to scroll off my text...
[05:28] <f00dMonsta> Attention: Don't play Diablo3 with WINE. I got banned for it.
[05:29] <IdleOne> !ot > f00dMonsta
[05:29] <Cong> They don't know you are using wine.
[05:29] <f00dMonsta> not OT since it affects all linux users
[05:30] <IdleOne> it is ot since it has nothing to do with ubuntu support
[05:30] <f00dMonsta> until you get people complaining about why D3 doesn't work with Ubuntu
[05:30] <IdleOne> f00dMonsta: it works fine with wine apparently.
[05:31] <f00dMonsta> It does, you just get banned for it
[05:31] <IdleOne> Now please stick to the topic of Ubuntu support.
[05:31] <f00dMonsta> fine....
[05:31] <IdleOne> Thank you.
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[05:36] <FloodBot1> tdlguik1c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:36] <tdlguik1c> shopiwoalsojimaking
[05:38] <akis> well. another little thing. in a netbook i freshly installed xubuntu 12.04. on that netbook i have 3 users accoutns. from the time i start use the system i cannot fix the keyboard layout. i mean that the system could not remember after every logout or restart the change layout options (alt+shift etc) of my keyboad layout so i had to reenter them or to use the mouse to click on flag to change the keyboard language. after googling for hours i found
[05:38] <akis> the advise to make an autostart application with the following command line /usr/bin/setxkbmap -option grp:switch, grp at_shift_toogle us,gr. this method seemed to be working only for one of the 3 users without issues, but not for the other 2 users, althought when i am logging in those accounts inittially works and after i am opening some application stops workink. also in layout properties still cannot save the option alt-shift or whatever i
[05:38] <akis> want. any advise to solve this isuue?
[05:38] <FloodBot1> akis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:39] <akis> FloodBot1: sorry but i am typing. not pasting!
[05:41] <suttiwit> !gimp
[05:42] <suttiwit> version?
[05:42] <suttiwit> !info gimp
[05:42] <suttiwit> okay
[05:43] <Cong> Something is malfunctioned with the micro-httpd package. It didn't add the right settings to inetd.conf.
[05:43] <Cong> It's functioning now.
[05:44] <pstanley> I'm having issues with my terminal. after so long, terminal window stops responding. If I ssh to a different server, terminal stops responding after exit (running 12.10)
[05:44] <Cong> how am I to put files in /var/www? am I to take ownership?
[05:45] <moondoggy> pstanley, might just be that you have a hanging process on the remote machine, like an X-window.
[05:46] <pstanley> moondoggy: any idea for when I don't SSH? it happens on terminals that to not connect via SSH
[05:46] <syntroPi> How would i install ubuntu server onto /dev/mmcblk0? Any ideas how i can get the installer to recognise that block device?
[05:46] <moondoggy> Oh.  Hmmm.  No, but probably my first guess isn't right.
[05:47] <moondoggy> I doubt you have two different problems with the same symptoms.
[05:47] <arunkumar413> how to enable to mouse wheel scroll in ubuntu
[05:47] <moondoggy> Are you running things in the background from that terminal?
[05:48] <moondoggy> I have no good ideas.  What are you doing when it freezes?
[05:48] <pstanley> I started google and search via forum, but nothing yet... normally, vi or nano ... today when I noticed, i did open gedit a couple times
[05:48] <slackin> #pugbot NEEDS 4 TO START NOW!!!
[05:49] <moondoggy> vi can hang if the file system is being hogged by something.
[05:50] <moondoggy> This is freezing on your local machine?
[05:50] <moondoggy> I dunno.   I ahve a machine ruunning 12.04 and 12.10 .. both have issues, lol. You may be right about the running things from terminal. I
[05:52] <moondoggy> pstanley, ...you what?
[05:53] <pstanley> I'll have to look at when it happens. thanks moondoggy
[05:53] <moondoggy> Wow, both machines?  Sounds like hardware, maybe.  Are they unusual machines, like PowerPC or something?
[05:54] <pstanley> No, Lenovo with 4GB and Core i5. My desktop running 12.10 16GB with Core i7
[05:55] <moondoggy> That's what I have.  Weird.  You're welcome, if I did anything.  :)
[05:55] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: it happen only to me once. The first time i used it ..but its ok now ..
[05:56] <pstanley> I tend to get the odd issues
[05:56] <f00dMonsta> lcabreza: as in you got unbanned?
[05:57] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: not banned ..just got a security alert saying ..login failed several times..
[05:57] <BlackWeb> I using Ubuntu 12.04 Server, & one Problem that I seem to be running into is that, When it boots up and goes to Grub, then Instead of quickly selecting a Boot selection and booting It just sits there to where if you was a normal desktop that wouldnt be a problem but since its a file server with just Power & Ethernet Cable then its kinda a hassle when it sometimes doesnt select and boot a Selection by itself. Has anyone experienced t
[05:57] <BlackWeb> hat Problem at all?
[05:58] <f00dMonsta> lcabreza: I got an email saying I was banned for being "involved in actions deemed inappropriate for Diablo III"
[05:58] <BlackWeb> To where I need to have a keyboard to press Enter, After say acouple seconds from power up
[05:58] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: hmm...it might be a spam or something ..
[05:59] <f00dMonsta> no cos I went to the blizzard site, logged in and it was banned
[05:59] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: try to check your account in Blizzard website..
[05:59] <f00dMonsta> same when I try to log into the game
[05:59] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: do not rely on emails ...lot of people ..will always try to get accounts..
[05:59] <f00dMonsta> lcabreza: I know, I can't even post on blizzard boards cos I'm banned
[05:59] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: try contacting blizzard support ...as long as you have the key ..
[06:00] <f00dMonsta> lcabreza: and yea I receive like 10 fake blizzard emails a day
[06:00] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: good for you ..only have 10 ..i have like ..30 to 50 ..
[06:00] <lcabreza> especially when they know that you are already on a higher levels.
[06:00] <f00dMonsta> lcabreza: lol. I'm waiting for them to reply
[06:01] <f00dMonsta> lcabreza: I have crap characters
[06:01] <f00dMonsta> lcabreza: and very bad gear
[06:01] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: im sure you'll get it back ..
[06:01] <f00dMonsta> lcabreza: I got my 2nd legendary item last night... lvl 17 item XD
[06:01] <ix_> I've installed ubuntu 10.04 from the minimal iso, I want it to automount with thunar, I've installed thunar-volman, slim, policykit-1-gnome, gvfs
[06:02] <f00dMonsta> and I should shutup, or someone will say I'm OT again
[06:02] <f00dMonsta> :x
[06:02] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: heheh!! ..
[06:05] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: when your successfull : add me : Lynx#6804
[06:05] <f00dMonsta> lcabreza: fingers crossed
[06:06] <SG> i want to make a timesheet app in django
[06:06] <Guest47236> please suggest some way
[06:08] <ix_> ok, this is funny, it automounts usbs but not cds
[06:09] <lcabreza> SG: check this out : https://github.com/myles/django-timesheet
[06:10] <hecker> ubuntu is for the weak and frail.
[06:11] <PK99> I beg to differ, hecker. Also, you spelled "hacker" wrong.
[06:12] <mmgc84> x) ubuntu suck$
[06:12] <PK99> mmgc84  Why so?
[06:13] <f00dMonsta> lol
[06:13] <f00dMonsta> Ubuntu is great for newbies
[06:13] <PK99> I see no point in criticizing Ubuntu.
[06:13] <PK99> It's like the gretest Operating System ever.
[06:13] <mmgc84> PK99, I am just teasing x)
[06:13] <mmgc84> its based on it
[06:13] <PK99> mmgc84, teasing whom? :/
[06:14] <mmgc84> click lcabreza
[06:14] <mmgc84> PK99 teasing anyone who cares x)
[06:15] <mmgc84> is it yours? lcabreza ? the git link?
[06:16] <roracle> I'm at work right now so I can't operate with anyone regarding troubleshooting.  However, I have recently installed 12.10, but I cannot seem to get my Nexus 7 to connect via MTP device.  Does anyone know anything about this?  I found an article regarding 12.04 but the solution doesn't work for 12.10.
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> roracle, I use gMTP
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> runs rather clunky but works
[06:18] <roracle> and it works like a charm?
[06:18] <roracle> oh
[06:18] <roracle> lol
[06:18] <roracle> what do you mean clunky?  that has various implications haha
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> roracle, Takes about 30 seconds to fire up but works,
[06:18] <roracle> oh that's cool.  thanks wilee-nilee
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[06:19] <roracle> i have to say, I HATED unity for a long time, but i find the new version of Ubuntu is pretty sweet.  i think Unity needs to include google searches along with system wide searches (can't search for apps by default, you MUST click the "app" icon which is cumbersome)
[06:20] <roracle> it also needs an option to move Unity to the bottom of the screen...makes it seem less intrusive
[06:20] <f00dMonsta> I"m just hoping hardware vendors will supporting linux more
[06:20] <mmgc84> uhhhh I used xubuntu now debian + xfce, never been a unity fan
[06:20] <mmgc84> +1 f00dMonsta
[06:21] <f00dMonsta> like printing... I can't use half the stuff my printer offers with linux
[06:21] <roracle> mmgc84: you say this as if it was 1998 all over again.  ;)
[06:21] <f00dMonsta> granted that half is stuff I rarely use, but still!
[06:21] <roracle> regarding the hardware support
[06:22] <mmgc84> hw support suck$
[06:22] <roracle> sorry, i meand food monsta
[06:22] <roracle> i suck at this typing stuff apparently
[06:22] <f00dMonsta> well it's alot better now, I know
[06:22] <roracle> how do you guys feel about Valve porting some Steam games over?
[06:22] <f00dMonsta> but still lacking polish on the drivers and software
[06:22]  * roracle wants native Skyrim
[06:23] <f00dMonsta> I'd love it
[06:23] <f00dMonsta> but I'm stuck with Windows for now
[06:23] <roracle> i'm stuck with Ubuntu for now haha.  My Windows ALWAYS crashes.  I can't push it at all without it tipping over
[06:24] <roracle> and all i do is game on Windows, and now I'm having to back off games for the sake of stability
[06:24] <f00dMonsta> windows is stable enough for me
[06:25] <roracle> i think i need a solid state hard drive...my problems with windows is my constant downloading/moving/deleting files and eventually my hard drive just craps out on me
[06:25] <f00dMonsta> BT would kill SSD pretty fast
[06:26] <f00dMonsta> :O
[06:26] <roracle> BT?
[06:26] <m3pow> hello !
[06:26] <m3pow> :)
[06:26] <roracle> hola
[06:26] <m3pow> got an issue here in LibreCalc. I tried to load an .xslx file that has loads of comments
[06:26] <roracle> but what do you mean BT?
[06:26] <roracle> bit torrent?
[06:27] <f00dMonsta> bittorrent? :o
[06:27] <m3pow> the comments are not hidden, i have to manually hide them in order to see my cells
[06:27] <roracle> how would that kill a SSD?
[06:27] <m3pow> any workarounds ?
[06:27] <f00dMonsta> mmm I guess I didn't think that through properly... BT wouldn't kill SSD lol
[06:28] <roracle> sorry m3pow i don't know anything about that.  i prefer using Libre for everything from the get-go.  that way i don't run into those problems going from one comp to another
[06:29] <m3pow> thanks roracle
[06:29] <f00dMonsta> I was thinking of the constant index searching would kill a HDD, I got it the wrong way around
[06:29] <m3pow> or...can i copy paste ONLY the info from the cell and exclude the comment?
[06:29] <f00dMonsta> Why not try that then? :P
[06:30] <m3pow> yes but how to exclude the comment
[06:30] <ASHER1> Hey i need please help about Upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 11.10  LTS
[06:31] <m3pow> the cell gets copied, usually WITH the comm
[06:31] <ASHER1> where i can find guide about this?
[06:33] <Cong> that would be 12.04 and don't upgrade, backup and install, ASHER1
[06:34] <roracle> asher: copy all your home files and do a fresh install. it's usually easier to reconfigure things than to back track trying to find what broke.  ;)  they called me the Format King back in the day lol
[06:35] <mmgc84> I quit playing f00dMonsta, and YES roracle win do SUCKS big time!
[06:36] <extropy> Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS is configured to bring up the HUD if you press "Alt L" <- not a valid key combo, needs to be "Alt+L" ...
[06:36] <extropy> so on every copy of 12.04 going out ... pressing Alt-LEFT in firefox (in less than 1 second) brings up the HUD *AND* sends the browser "Back"
[06:37] <extropy> not sure why "Alt L" == "Alt+Left" ... yet "Alt+L" does nothing ;)
[06:37] <Cong> what about in 12.04.1?
[06:38] <extropy> you can plainly see in the Settings dialog that its missing the "+"
[06:38] <extropy> Cong: are you saying this has been fix?
[06:38] <extropy> ed
[06:38] <Cong> no
[06:38] <food1> roracle, Just your window get ugly ... right?
[06:39] <extropy> how do I get my build #?
[06:39] <roracle> my windows?  it crashes and burnnnnnns!  i had to install Ubuntu to get my sanity back
[06:39] <roracle> and i'm loving 12.10 by the way, did i mention that?
[06:39] <extropy> I was just going to Ubuntu->Help->About but all it says is "12.04 LTS"
[06:41] <food1> roracle, My system freezes , after idle for serveral hours ... Installed a kernel... Just testing if it does again
[06:42] <extropy> food1 kind of sounds like a hardware problem. Does memtest report any errors?
[06:44] <food1> extropy, i did not do memtest yet. I also think it maybe hardware or kernel issue ... But i really need to reboot if it happened once
[06:44] <Cong> I tried Haiku the other day and my computer glitched like Windows does. I think it's my computer overheating.
[06:45] <mmgc84> back up Cong!
[06:45] <extropy> random crashes in my experiences are almost always a memory error ... boot your computer with the LiveCD (might need server now, can't remember) and run memtest ... if your memory has an error it'll tell you, just let one cycle pass (takes a while)
[06:46] <mmgc84> for me random crashes are never memory related !
[06:47] <extropy> Cong if your computer overheats I believe the hardware will fail to boot at all, might not be the case for all hardware
[06:47] <mmgc84> memory fail, _replace_
[06:47] <extropy> mmgc84: exactly
[06:47] <extropy> -_-_'
[06:48] <mmgc84> if you have 2 boards try swapping x)
[06:48] <mmgc84> ubuntu newbie talk sorry x)
[06:48] <Cong> I've been using Ubuntu 10.04 for 2 months and I've had no problems with glitches or crashes.
[06:48] <food1> extropy, Server LveCD?
[06:49] <extropy> I think so, yeah
[06:49] <mmgc84> I use debian testing and no crashes
[06:49] <Ascavasaion> When I try to download the deb package for Flash through firefox it asks me if I want to open it with aptURL.  I say yes and then it tells me that it cannot find channel precise-partner.  Any ideas?
[06:49] <extropy> I know it has memtest but I think they might have pulled it from Desktop
[06:50] <wilee-nilee> Ascavasaion, If you want flash install the restricted-extras for your desktop, it also has some extra media codecs and ms fonts.
[06:50] <extropy> Every time I build a new machine now I run memtest before I do anything else now ... memory errors are common enough to want to save myself the trouble of having something go wrong later.
[06:51] <mmgc84> when using xubuntu 810 ... 12.10 most of the time  very stable, every fuckup it mostly my fault
[06:51] <Ascavasaion> wilee-nilee: I have done that and have flash installed.  But sites I go to all tell me that my flash is outdated.
[06:51] <wilee-nilee> Ascavasaion, This with chrome
[06:52] <food1> extropy, pm please?
[06:52] <mmgc84> its just stupid Ascavasaion !
[06:53] <extropy> seems like the only time I ever have problems they're fix by the next release and never actually my fault
[06:53] <Ascavasaion> wildc4rd: Chromium and Firefox.
[06:53] <Ascavasaion> oops
[06:53] <Ascavasaion> wilee-nilee: : Chromium and Firefox.
[06:53] <extropy> case in point "Alt L" bringing up the HUD when it should be "Alt+L" can anyone tell me if that's still a problem in 12.10?
[06:53] <wilee-nilee> Ascavasaion, Are you using a script block like noscript?
[06:53] <Ascavasaion> mmgc84: I have to agree.
[06:54] <Ascavasaion> wilee-nilee: If I am I am unaware that I am.
[06:55] <extropy> and why does "Alt L" in the config register as "Alt+Left" in the first place?
[06:56] <Cong> maybe Alt L(eft)
[06:56] <extropy> and what does the HUD even do? only just noticed that it seems to be some kind of macro interface or something.
[06:58] <Cong> the HUD is the new way to execute programs. if you remember the name you shouldn't be looking around for it in a menu
[06:58] <mmgc84> ahhhhhhh the HUD, I remember now x)
[06:58] <extropy> how is the HUD different from the menu you get when you press the Windows key?
[06:59] <extropy> I think the hud should come up when you press the "~" key ala IDSoftware Tech engine
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[06:59] <FloodBot1> tdlguik1c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:59] <extropy> except ... it should probably just be an F-key like any other button that transcends the entire OS
[07:02] <Archaical> anyone know how to set winbind or samba to recognize capitalized names in a domain environment?
[07:04] <extropy> honestly, I have a hard enough time not getting hacked to bits on IRC when I'm not trying to be jackass ... why would someone try to flood?
[07:04] <himanshu_linux> hi,  how to see which program is using the network ?
[07:05] <extropy> mmgc84 what's the HUD all about?
[07:05] <Ascavasaion> In chrome I cannot access Shockwave flash either.  It pops up a line at the top of the browser window saying that it "Could Not load Shockwave Flash".
[07:06] <himanshu_linux> hi,  how to see which program is using the network ?
[07:07] <Ascavasaion> himanshu_linux: I am not sure... but I do know that Firestarter shows what applications are using what ports and IPs.
[07:07] <himanshu_linux> ok
[07:07] <himanshu_linux> seeing ..
[07:08] <mmgc84> google just that himanshu_linux
[07:09] <KeviNjLauseN> My first irc chat room
[07:10] <Cong> KeviNjLauseN, got your commands memorized?
[07:10] <Archaical> anyone know how to set winbind or samba to recognize capitalized names in a domain environment?
[07:10] <KeviNjLauseN> using Ubuntu 12.04 pp on a LgX120 netBook
[07:11] <KeviNjLauseN> wish I knew
[07:11] <KeviNjLauseN> commands/
[07:11] <KeviNjLauseN> ?
[07:12] <mmgc84> Cong just remember that linuxes
[07:12] <KeviNjLauseN> quit:
[07:12] <mmgc84> name NAME
[07:12] <mmgc84> Name
[07:13] <mmgc84> NAMe
[07:13] <KeviNjLauseN> How do I find a list of irc commands
[07:13] <mmgc84> they all are different
[07:13] <mmgc84> hi there KeviNjLauseN
[07:13] <KeviNjLauseN> besides google lol
[07:13] <Cong> KeviNjLauseN, type /quit lol
[07:13] <mmgc84> dont
[07:13] <wilee-nilee> Ascavasaion, try sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer && sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[07:13] <Archaical> try /help
[07:13] <Archaical> ?
[07:13] <Archaical> anyone know how to set winbind or samba to recognize capitalized names in a domain environment?
[07:14] <mmgc84> try /whateveryoucanimagine
[07:14] <KeviNjLauseN> good mornin mmgc84
[07:14] <Ascavasaion> wilee-nilee: Okay, will do now... see you ina few minutes.
[07:14] <mmgc84> Archaical, why do you need capitalized?
[07:14] <wilee-nilee> cool
[07:14] <Archaical> I'd like users who connect to be reffered to using their proper names from the primary domain controller.  Like PatientX not being referred to as patientx on the ubuntu box.
[07:15]  * Cong help
[07:15]  * Cong help
[07:15] <mmgc84> uhhhh I havent tried that in a lot of time
[07:16] <mmgc84> google Archaical
[07:16] <Archaical> did brother, first thing i did and hit it hard for 6 hours, if you search winbind capitalize you will find every post i've made and they are the only ones.
[07:17] <Archaical> reason being is if you use template homedir = /path/share/%U ubuntu sets that username wildcard to the lowercase version of the name that is connecting.
[07:17] <Archaical> because that is how the username is handed to samba via winbind.
[07:18] <Archaical> so if winbind is downgrading the names is it because its set that way in adduser.conf?  i say no because i've already set the uppercase names in adduser.conf
[07:18]  * Cong is playing with the irc commands
[07:19]  * Archaical thinks cong needs to be slapped around with a wet trout.
[07:20] <mmgc84> x)
[07:20] <mmgc84> Archaical, try the debian administrator handbook x)
[07:21]  * Cong thinks Archaical needs to come back when he's well educated in the art of wet trout slapping.
[07:21] <mmgc84> jajajaja
[07:21] <Archaical> lol
[07:21] <mmgc84> Cong,  is hillarious x)
[07:22] <Ascavasaion> wilee-nilee: It never worked, the same problem.  Tried it in firefox and Chrome
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> Ascavasaion, Hmm, not sure then sorry.
[07:22] <Ascavasaion> wilee-nilee: :(  Darn.  thanks for trying though.
[07:23] <mmgc84> Archaical, goto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Whacking_with_a_Wet_Trout
[07:24] <Archaical> its a shame i am probably one of the few here that has been around long enough to know the origins of the wet trout statement and you kids are sadly lacking in the experience drawn from such.
[07:26] <wilee-nilee> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsfiD78Cy0s the original fish slapping
[07:26] <extropy> omg ... this thing is *so* much easier to use after changing the HUD hotkey to Alt-L o_.'
[07:26] <extropy> irssi and Firefox both relying on Alt-Left for navigation made it a constant problem
[07:28] <ciphered> how are computer random freezes diagnosed?
[07:28] <ciphered> and troubleshooted
[07:28] <Ascavasaion> wilee-nilee: I would check that youtube clip, but I cannot without Flash :(
[07:28] <ciphered>  my computer freezes on mint out of the blue, i can still move the mouse but the OS doesnt respond anymore, a hardreset should be done, how cna i troubleshoot that?
[07:29] <penguinman> ciphered, did it start happening after you installed something?
[07:29] <ciphered> penguinman: not really
[07:29] <BlackWeb> Im running Ubuntu 12.04 Server Which I'm having a problem with the Machine not auto loading the OS in grub, Which wouldn t be a problem but the server I have running only has a power cord & Ethernet cable so its kinda a hassle when it does it, Has anyone experienced this?
[07:29] <ciphered> when i work, sometimes the computer freezes, the music keeps playing the mouse moving but no response
[07:29] <ciphered> i have to hardreset it
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> Ascavasaion, works here.
[07:30] <ciphered> i cant switch to terminal windows from gui control alt f1
[07:30] <Ascavasaion> wilee-nilee: Not for me... No Flash remember :)
[07:30] <penguinman> ciphered, check /var/log/xorg.log maybe. had that problem with the proprietary fglrx drivers on my old laptop.
[07:31] <ciphered> fglxr?
[07:31] <penguinman> proprietary ati drivers
[07:31] <ciphered> i have an nvidia
[07:31] <ciphered> didnt install its drivers yet
[07:32] <penguinman> try installing them then and see if that helps
[07:32] <ciphered> geforce cuda
[07:34] <Archaical> BlackWeb: edit /etc/default/grub and set GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=1 and make sure its uncommented.
[07:34] <Archaical> if that doesnt work i have one more thing you can do which will force it to work.
[07:35] <ciphered> how can i probe for my graphica card to know its model
[07:35] <valleycat> did anyone else's trackpad stop working after updating to 12.10?
[07:35] <llutz_> ciphered: lspci | grep -i vga
[07:36] <Archaical> valleycat: it might have something to do with the cat in your name and a mouse reference.  (insert mouse / cat joke here)
[07:36] <valleycat> heh
[07:36] <ciphered> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[07:36] <ciphered>
[07:36] <ciphered> it doesnt show the nvidia
[07:36] <Archaical> otherwise, sorry man dont have any good ideas on why that happened
[07:36] <ciphered> this is the built in intel
[07:36] <FloodBot1> ciphered: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:36] <extropy> valleycat who's the hardware vendor?
[07:36] <valleycat> must have scared the mouse driver away
[07:36] <ciphered> flood?
[07:36] <Archaical> ^_^
[07:36] <valleycat> apple?
[07:36] <valleycat> :s
[07:37] <extropy> huh, the only apples I've worked with were PPC (because Apple no longer supports them ;)
[07:37] <Archaical> BlackWeb: would you mind terribly telling me if my solution worked for you?
[07:37] <valleycat> lol
[07:38] <extropy> did you upgrade to 12.10 or do a fresh install?
[07:38] <Ascavasaion> As usual, Linux fails the bar and does not allow me to view Flash...  Sigh.
[07:38] <BlackWeb> Archaical I'll give that a try, Which i was looking into commenting out the function recordfail
[07:38] <extropy> more like "Adobe fails" xD
[07:38] <valleycat> upgrade
[07:38] <Archaical> yea but you dont really want to change the 00_header file because it will be changed on the next update of grub.
[07:38] <extropy> Adobe doesn't support PowerPC either ... it's quite annoying
[07:39] <extropy> You might try doing a fresh install. Seems like there's a lot of room for things to break with that upgrade process. I never do it because it takes hours >.<
[07:40] <extropy> someone with more intimate knowledge might be able to fix the problem though
[07:40] <valleycat> :/
[07:40] <greylurk1> Gah, my touchpad just stopped working randomly.
[07:40] <Archaical> i as well have never had good results with an "upgrade"
[07:40] <extropy> greylurk1 ... meey valleycat ;)
[07:40] <Archaical> lol
[07:40] <Archaical> meet he meant.
[07:41] <greylurk1> valleycat?
[07:41] <extropy> I wonder if my Vaio's trackpack will stop working when I install these updates.
[07:41] <Archaical> DO IT!
[07:41] <valleycat> fresh installs are annoying with my computer
[07:41] <Archaical> become a member of the club!
[07:41] <extropy> meh ... Thunderbird, don't think it'll break anything
[07:42] <valleycat> because sometimes rEFIt decides to stop working
[07:42] <Archaical> since we all have a good repore, anyone know how to set winbindd to accept and pass names from network to samba as they are transmitted without downgrading them to all lowercase?
[07:42] <greylurk1> It's weird.  I can see that xinput is reporting it's disabled, but xinput enable doesn't actually do anything.
[07:43] <BlackWeb> Archaical I dont see the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=1 Entry at all in my /boot/grub/grub.cfg file?
[07:43] <dogweather> Are some Ubuntu sub-sites down? E.g., the computer certification info - http://www.ubuntu.com/certification
[07:43] <extropy> the other day Ubuntu turned off my Wireless adapter in the *BIOS* ... had to discover some obscure application called "RFKILL" to get it back >.<
[07:43] <llutz_> BlackWeb: "edit /etc/default/grub and set GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=1 "   you see the difference?
[07:44] <the_dark_knight> hey guys, I want to run multiple instances of my worker class. So I am trying to do http://www.bpaste.net/raw/sPr0GRCVX6DjDcEOvq4z/ . I want to send a number/id to my worker and then identify it with that number for later purpose. Basically I want to run some number of workers and identify them with an id by using a single worker.py file. How Do I do that? please help
[07:44] <BlackWeb> Alrigth hold on I was checking /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:45] <extropy> how do you kill the mouse in X? wasn't it like "killall gpm" or something? *nostalgia*
[07:45] <Archaical> BlackWeb: not there, /etc/default/grub is the file to change
[07:46] <Archaical> BlackWeb: make sure when you are done editing that file you run update-grub and update-grub2 when you are done.
[07:48] <ryannathans> i get home, turn my machine on and we have a 'waiting for network' message on the purple ubuntu screen, it's a problem with the machine and not my network. I've traced it back to a few lines in /etc/network/interfaces that configure my infiniband card for ip networking
[07:48] <ryannathans> i just dont know what to do, when i have them uncommented the machine doesn't boot with networing
[07:48] <BlackWeb> Alright I'm doing it now, just curious what does that that line actually do? Does it  just make sure that if theres no selection it'll load OS? I'm rebooting server now, cause ya the thing was it sometimes would do that and it was a hassle to wonder if it came up without a Monitor/Keyboard
[07:49] <Archaical> would you mind pasting a copy of your interfaces file?
[07:49] <extropy> did ryan and nathan join forces? I should have foreseen this ...
[07:49] <ryannathans> who
[07:49] <Ascavasaion> So I will never be able to see Youtube again, no use any site that uses Flash.  Unless I move to Windows.
[07:49] <extropy> you don't live in the Seattle area do you?
[07:49] <ryannathans> no
[07:49] <weiyang> hi, my system get duplicate pv
[07:49] <the_dark_knight> hi, how do i check the people who have just accessed my machine say with ssh? help
[07:49] <ryannathans> i'm in western australia
[07:50] <weiyang> how can i delete one?
[07:50] <llutz_> Ascavasaion: blame Adobe
[07:50] <extropy> different WA ;)
[07:50] <ryannathans> hah
[07:50] <Archaical> BlackWeb: that file setting forces a hidden timeout, if you set it to 1 its one second, if you set it to 5 its 5 seconds. and it runs unseen forcing the OS to load without notifying the system
[07:50] <extropy> always blame Adobe ... always
[07:50] <llutz_> the_dark_knight: sudo grep sshd /var/log/auth.log
[07:50] <Ascavasaion> llutz: :(  Blaming does not help me though.
[07:50] <extropy> I don't know who's worse: Adobe or Oracle ...
[07:51] <Archaical> Oracle
[07:51] <Archaical> hands down
[07:51] <Archaical> Oracle is the devil.
[07:51] <BlackWeb> Alright Cool, Very Much appreciated :)
[07:51] <Archaical> HA Take that flooboot!
[07:51] <Archaical> bot even.
[07:51] <Archaical> BlackWeb: np.
[07:51] <_cronus_> the_dark_knight, last
[07:51] <greylurk1> so, i'm wrong.  xinput enable on the trackpad doesn't do nothing.  It logs "Synaptics Touchpad: touchpad found" to the Xorg.0.log
[07:52] <greylurk1> But it lies.
[07:52] <extropy> is it killall gpm? something like that ... resets the mouse
[07:52] <greylurk1> gpm isn't running.
[07:53] <Archaical> Anyone know how to force samba and winbind to recognize names capitalized if they are capitalized : ex: Archaical not archaical   and ArchaiCAL not archaical?
[07:53] <ryannathans> this is my /etc/network/interfaces http://pastebin.com/kztAYd3G
[07:53] <the_dark_knight> _cronus_: llutz_ both /var/log/auth.log and last are not helping. I want the name of that machine or say the user who ssh my machine . he may be authorised or not.
[07:53] <extropy> my trackpad gets overheated and weird depending on where I am, what the weathers like, etc ... makes me want to throw this netbook through a window
[07:53] <ryannathans> every time i remove the lines relating to ib1 the machine boots with no network issues
[07:53] <ryannathans> what may be going wrong?
[07:53] <Archaical> you could try a little pocket mouse?
[07:53] <the_dark_knight> _cronus_: sorry last will do fine. didn't look at the first line
[07:54] <greylurk1> Yeah, I've got an external mouse, but it's a pain to carry around another piece of hardware, and such.
[07:54] <the_dark_knight> _cronus_: llutz_, but how do I see what that user is doing. suppose last is showing "still logged in" how do I know what he is doing?
[07:55] <llutz_> the_dark_knight: "w"
[07:55] <extropy> ryannathans: this might be kind of a stretch but maybe ubuntu is doing something to your iptables rules?
[07:56] <ryannathans> extropy: i don't think so. the two commands that get executed regarding the 'find' return nothing at the moment
[07:56] <anthony> lol hey
[07:56] <tdlguik1c> kim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging tough
[07:56] <anthony> new guy is here lol
[07:56] <tdlguik1c> kim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogo
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[07:56] <tdlguik1c> waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome
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[07:56] <tdlguik1c> sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging tough
[07:56] <FloodBot1> tdlguik1c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:56] <tdlguik1c> oglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim
[07:56] <tdlguik1c> waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging tough
[07:56] <anthony> how do u use dis ubuntu
[07:56] <FloodBot1> tdlguik1c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:57] <_cronus_> the_dark_knight, not an easy question. maybe you could use ps axjf and look at the process tree, but you'll miss daemonized processes, or see the processes belonging to the user.
[07:57] <tdlguik1c> kim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogo
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[07:57] <tdlguik1c> waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome
[07:57] <tdlguik1c> giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig
[07:57] <FloodBot1> tdlguik1c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:57] <ryannathans> http://pkg-ofed.alioth.debian.org/howto/infiniband-howto-5.html
[07:58] <ryannathans> my ib0 or ib1 isn't listed on ifconfig -a
[07:59] <the_dark_knight> _cronus_: can't grep it here . ps axjf | grep user1
[07:59] <extropy> it must be the way your interfaces file is configured
[08:00] <ryannathans> i've just commented out the offending lines and seeing if it'll work after a reboot
[08:00] <llutz_> the_dark_knight: "ps xjf -u <uid>"   uid = the users uid
[08:00] <extropy> because yeah if the interfaces aren't showing up in ifconfig ...
[08:02] <extropy> same thing was happening with my wireless after I "disabled wireless" ... when I went back to "enable wireless" the option wasn't even there. Ubuntu had set up some kind of Soft-block ... disabled the wifi in the BIOS of all places
[08:02] <extropy> so yeah, Ubuntu might have done something you don't want somewhere along the line and since it isn't wifi related I'm not sure how to help
[08:03] <Archaical> literally paying a crispy 5 dollar bill to the person who successfully answers my question with an answer the produces the results i need.  The question, how do you force winbind and samba to recognize uppcase names and report them to the system uppercase.  for more detailed information see my post at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2078563
[08:03] <Archaical> and payment is made via paypal.
[08:03] <extropy> is these a DNS thing?
[08:04] <the_dark_knight> llutz_: where do I get his uid. can't get it from last and w
[08:04] <llutz_> the_dark_knight: id username
[08:04] <extropy> isn't ActiveDirectory *hugely* dependent on DNS?
[08:04] <_cronus_> the_dark_knight, yes, that shows uid, try auxf
[08:05] <ryannathans> *headbutts computer*
[08:05] <ryannathans> i give up on ipoverib
[08:05] <Archaical> no, the samba box is in a domain enviroment, users are connecting with Capitalized names like Tester  and   FranklinW  and the ubuntu system sees them as tester and franklinw  and thus makes a home folder which is lowercased for those users,  now, when the users roaming profile is copied to the samba server share, its copied with the capital letters and thus the home folder isnt the same as
[08:05] <Archaical> the roaming profile directory.
[08:05] <extropy> I see, that would be annoying
[08:05] <extropy> and you changed the configuration for SMB, right?
[08:06] <extropy> is there a command you need to run to flush Samba's old confige and restart with the new one?
[08:06] <extropy> like sudo service samba restart ... or something?
[08:06] <Archaical> Yes, to include template homedir = /path/%U  which for user Tester would be /path/tester  and when a roaming profile is made, its made like so, /path/Tester   and for ubuntu  /path/tester is not same as /path/Tester
[08:07] <Archaical> did the flush already
[08:08] <extropy> maybe the problem isn't Samba ... what creates the new user's home directory for Samba does it just run "adduser" or something?
[08:08] <Archaical> a little more digging determines that when a user attempts to connect in a domain enviroment, winbind a sub-service of samba is retrieving the user names from the PDC and making a fake passwd file so that the users name is stored locally.  when it does this it makes that lowercase name in this fake passwd instead of the uppercase name.  and then samba from there takes that name.
[08:08] <Archaical> already configured /etc/adduser.conf to incorporate capitalized names
[08:09] <extropy> does adduser's config need to be reloads (I wouldn't know)
[08:09] <extropy> *reloaded
[08:09] <Archaical> i'm fairly certain right now its a setting with winbindd or nss_info but i've LITERALLY read the entire manual for both (and i swear to go i will NEVER doubt how verbose a computer programmer can be when writing a manual) and i've gotten no where.
[08:09] <the_dark_knight> llutz_: _cronus_ , but where do I get the user name? user1 from last and w doesn't work when I do "ps xjf -u user1"
[08:09] <Archaical> i've reloaded the adduser.conf as well =D
[08:09] <FireStorms> Hi, I'm looking to buy a Inkjet printer that works well on Ubuntu and has decent quality and low cost inks. The last printer I had was Lexmark Z13 12 years ago
[08:09] <llutz_> the_dark_knight: "ps xf -u user1
[08:10] <extropy> didn't even know that was a think, lol
[08:10] <FireStorms> Can anyone suggest one please
[08:11] <extropy> Is Microsoft involved with Samba development at all?
[08:11] <extropy> I could see them breaking it on purpose just to get people to buy Windows 8 ;)
[08:11] <extropy> but enough of my conspiracy theories ...
[08:12] <Archaical> lol
[08:12] <extropy> so have you tested adduser to see that it adding usernames with caps?
[08:12] <the_dark_knight> llutz_: I can see user1 in "last" and "w" but not in ps tree. does this mean he is logged out? btw your command with other logged in users works fine. thanks
[08:13] <Archaical> I will test that to confirm right now, good point.
[08:13] <llutz_> the_dark_knight: "last user1" shows you if the user still is logged in or not.
[08:13] <weiyang> I have two volume group with the same name
[08:13] <extropy> and that business with temporary passwd files ... ew ... wonder if you wouldn't have to modify some source to get that working again
[08:14] <weiyang> how can I delete one of them?
[08:14] <the_dark_knight> llutz_: yes. good. thanks
[08:15] <Archaical> system is reboot to force all configs and dependencies to reload.
[08:15] <Archaical> afk taking a dump
[08:16] <iceroot> can i resize / when /home/username/.private is encrypted (and part of the / partition) or are there checksums for the partition size?
[08:17] <iceroot> 2. question: why can ubuntu use encrypted swap even when no user is logged in. is the key stored on /?if so, where
[08:24] <syntroPi> iceroot, id guess swap is only used for one uptime keys for that could be dynamically generated at boot time and remain in RAM? correct me if im wrong...
[08:26] <iceroot> syntroPi: thats the question, i am not exactly sure how it works but swap is encrypted after a suspend too, so because of that i would say its a normal key on /
[08:26] <llutz> syntroPi iceroot  wouldn't that make encrypted swap senseless?
[08:26] <iceroot> llutz: yes
[08:26] <iceroot> llutz: but how does it work if not that way
[08:27] <llutz> iceroot: idk unfortunately
[08:28] <syntroPi> hmm idk
[08:29] <EnginA> hey guys, dpkg lock was held, so I had to kill the dpkg instances... it turns out there was an installation going somewhere and now it is interrupted
[08:29] <EnginA> whiptail is now consuming 100% cpu etc
[08:29] <EnginA> how am I supposed to clean this mess up
[08:29] <EnginA> (mind you this all happens when I have to do something on this box urgently)
[08:30] <Archaical> oke doke.  Yes adduser allows creation of uppercase names, however getent passwd still shows all lowercase names
[08:31] <Archaical> for those of you just joining in, there is a 5 dollar bounty on the successfull answer leading to desired results as indicated in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2078563
[08:32] <extropy> still at it aye?
[08:32] <EnginA> $5 ? wow!
[08:32] <Archaical> i WILL solve this.
[08:32] <extropy> you sound like me when I was trying to get iptables to do SPI
[08:32] <Archaical> hey man if you can't answer it no need to be-little a 5 dollar bill, someone else will enjoy it that much more =D
[08:33] <extropy> you'll get there ... might take a damn year ... but you'll get it
[08:33] <Archaical> i have about 12 hours left.
[08:33] <_cronus_> iceroot, it seems it works as you described
[08:33] <extropy> so adduser is creating working usernames with caps?
[08:33] <Archaical> Aye
[08:34] <Rootbrian> lowercase is the thing. Must be a bug.
[08:34] <iceroot> _cronus_: sounds very unsecure in my opinion
[08:34] <_cronus_> iceroot, not really, since the keys are not stored on disk.
[08:35] <_cronus_> iceroot, root can always read memory.
[08:35] <iceroot> _cronus_: but how does a suspend work in that case?
[08:35] <Archaical> thing is, since this is a domain environmnet, when a user attempts to connect to the samba shares, samba uses winbind to grab the usernames list from the primary domain controller and pulls them down to a temporary passwd file which is stored on the system and updated regularly.  this file is viewable in a sense via typing getent passwd which will then return a list of all users this samba
[08:35] <Archaical> shared system recognizes as valid.  all the usernames are lowercase even though the usernames on the primary domain controller are capitalized.
[08:36] <extropy> sounds like maybe winbind is misconfigured
[08:36] <Archaical> since they are shown lowercase in that file when a users homedirectory is mapped, its mapped with lowercase, however Windows makes the roaming profile directory Uppercased in accordance with the actual usernames and therefore the two dont mix.
[08:36] <_cronus_> iceroot, suspend does not stop the memory but hybernate does not work properly
[08:36] <llutz> iceroot: it doesn't without tweaking as an article on help.ubuntu.com shows
[08:36] <Archaical> thats what i said.
[08:36] <Archaical> but i've read the man page regarding winbind back to front.
[08:37] <extropy> maybe it's a bug?
[08:37] <Archaical> it better not be.
[08:37] <extropy> the other thing that always gets me: typos, also order of operations (where applicable)
[08:37] <iceroot> _cronus_: but how can the system reach the memory again, when the system is suspended?
[08:37] <linux_noob> none here?
[08:37] <prakansh> hi
[08:37] <iceroot> llutz: you have a link?
[08:38] <llutz> iceroot: bit.ly/M3h3Hn
[08:38] <Archaical> Hi.
[08:38] <Rootbrian> linux_noob: many are here
[08:38] <linux_noob> Hello, I'm having troubles installing Ubuntu on my older laptop. It's giving me a message "Secure boot not enabled."
[08:38] <iceroot> llutz: thx
[08:38] <Archaical> lol Rootbrian: many are here, few will answer =D
[08:38] <_cronus_> iceroot, that's hardware. maybe check with #hardware
[08:39] <iceroot> _cronus_: thats not a hardware feature, and its ##hardware :)
[08:39] <Aerosonic> Is local IP address assignment random or sequential?
[08:39] <Rootbrian> linux_noob there should be an option to disable the detection of secure boot by pressing F6 when at the boot launcher.
[08:39] <Aerosonic> Like, <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:39] <Archaical> sequential if you are asking what i think you are asking.
[08:40] <Archaical> however the IP address handling system/device will sometimes reserve IP's for systems that are offline based on lease times etc.
[08:40] <Rootbrian> linux_noob: if that works, what I mentioned previously.
[08:40] <linux_noob> @Rootbrain all I get is the bios screen, then the message, no boot launcher
[08:40] <linux_noob> brian*
[08:40] <lxf_> linuxmint
[08:41] <Rootbrian> linux_noob: boot from the CD or liveusb, whichever you made, but ensure the boot order in the BIOS is set to hard disk being last.
[08:41] <_cronus_> iceroot, power states are set by hardware. software uses acpi to switch power states. i wasn't trying to set off the conversation by mentioning hardware, i just think that it has more to do with the hardware field.
[08:41] <linux_noob> Rootbrian: Already done. Still does not seem to work for me.
[08:42] <Rootbrian> linux_noob are you booting from CD or liveUSB?
[08:42] <iceroot> _cronus_: yes, maybe i have to read what "wake up from suspend" is doing
[08:42] <linux_noob> Rootbrian: liveUSB
[08:43] <Rootbrian> linux_noob: what is the boot order? Also, ensure the bios can even boot from a usb device.
[08:44] <iceroot> _cronus_: the interesting part is how does the hardware knows what to restore and how the system is then reading the encrypted swap. maybe its very easy and everything is stored in ram including the swap-key
[08:44] <linux_noob> Rootbrian: I've had it work in the past, one second though, it's possible I've made a error when putting Ubuntu on to the USB.
[08:45] <Rootbrian> linux_noob: use unetbootin. That usually works best. Format the usb drive first.
[08:46] <Rootbrian> once done, boot using the 'install ubuntu' option to skip the desktop.
[08:46] <linux_noob> Rootbrian: Thanks, have tried unetbootin a few times. I think it's an issue with administrator priviledges on the computer I'm using to make the USB. Always have problems when creating a USB on Windows.
[08:46] <bitbuzzer>  /msg nickserv identify buzibuz
[08:46] <iceroot> _cronus_: my mistake was that i thought the ram is also encrypted but its only swap
[08:46] <linux_noob> Rootbrian: Will let you know if it works this time around.
[08:46] <Aerosonic> bitbuzzer: You could type /ns id buzibuz
[08:47] <bitbuzzer> Aerosonic: thanks
[08:47] <iceroot> which brings up another question :)
[08:47] <Rootbrian> linux_noob: login as administrator if you're having issues, or run as administrator.
[08:47] <iceroot>  /tmp is using tmpfs and if i am correct, tmpfs is only stored in ram and not the hd?
[08:49] <the_dark_knight> hi can I assign an id to a command. Say when I do "python sample.py" (and this execution will run something). I want to assign some id to this execution. can I do it with setsid.
[08:50] <iceroot> the_dark_knight: you want to execute the script as another user?
[08:50] <_cronus_> iceroot, i believe, and this is just my personal opinion on this, that encryption is a measure mostly useful against offline forensics
[08:51] <the_dark_knight> iceroot: no the current user. but say I want to remember the execution. suppose sample.py will have some content that will go on running. so I will check if it is running with that id later. something like that.
[08:51] <kushal_kumaran> the_dark_knight: is the process pid sufficient for your purposes?
[08:51] <iceroot> _cronus_: i think so too. i am fine when my home is encrpyted because there are important data, the rest is unimportant for this system
[08:52] <iceroot> the_dark_knight: so you want to start the program and want a id for that task. thats the PID
[08:52] <iceroot> the_dark_knight: there was a command to start a program and get its PID but of course i cant remeber that command
[08:52] <Rootbrian> iceroot: safest way to secure a system when not in use (when sleeping) is to disable the network device.
[08:52] <the_dark_knight> kushal_kumaran: yes. but it will change for every other execution , i guess. I want to do it like "python sample.py --id 10"
[08:53] <the_dark_knight> iceroot: refer my comment to kushal_kumaran .
[08:53] <iceroot> Rootbrian: you can steal laptops and for that case i need protection
[08:53] <Rootbrian> Iceroot: encryption and thief proof, yes.
[08:54] <Rootbrian> iceroot: I was under the impression it was internet related until it was a laptop.
[08:54] <Rootbrian> *About a laptop
[08:55] <iceroot> Rootbrian: no, i have virtual machines on this laptop and these are very important because they are workstations for the customer
[08:55] <kushal_kumaran> the_dark_knight: is the code in sample.py in your control, or are you running someone else's application.  If it is yours, have it create a file /tmp/<id>.lock and take a lock on it.  Then you can check if the process is running using the flock command.
[08:55] <micjan02> i think my firefox profile might've gotten a little corrupt. how can i export and import it back again (i do not mean copy ~/.mozilla, i mean import/export)?
[08:57] <kushal_kumaran> the_dark_knight: techniques used in writing typical unix daemons might be helpful: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/daemonize
[08:57] <the_dark_knight> kushal_kumaran: but then again the id here PID will be unique but not fixed. say I want to hardcode 5 id's with corresponding five executions. something like that.
[08:57] <Rootbrian> micjan20: If you mean saved passwords, there is an addon to do so. There is an option within firefox to restart with addons disabled in the Help menu.
[08:57] <the_dark_knight> kushal_kumaran: lemme check your link.
[08:58] <Rootbrian> iceroot: now I understand the situation. I would be that cautious if it was a setup like that
[08:59] <iceroot> Rootbrian: and encrpyted home is working fine without any issues, so its a very good way i think
[08:59] <the_dark_knight> kushal_kumaran: so with daemonize I can assign the pid manually right?
[09:00] <Rootbrian> iceroot: I never encrypt mine due to not much valuable info being in it. Mostly videos and utilities I found from old hard drives that had windows on them. :)
[09:00] <the_dark_knight> kushal_kumaran: so what will the test.pid file have?
[09:00] <subdesign> hey