[20:12] <Meris> delac, Canonical can certainly use the money. I just want to prevent  the adverts and more importantly, the search results itself from displaying any games whatsoever.
[20:12] <guntbert> Lil: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades#Network_Upgrade_for_Ubuntu_Servers_.28Recommended.29
[20:12] <brandon> ubotto i hate u
[20:12] <amews_aj-study> Random832, from what I read shred/wipe simply overwrites the hdd with random bits. I guess doing a single such pass is not paranoid ?
[20:12] <Portugal> haha
[20:13] <Portugal> What format is a Linux Hard Drive usually on. FAT32, right?
[20:13] <brandon> pooo
[20:14] <ratcheer> Portugal: No, usually ext3 or ext4
[20:14] <Meris> Portugal, You *are* kidding, right?
[20:14] <DJones> Portugal: No, not FAT32, Ubuntu is normally EXT2/3/4
[20:14] <brandon> ummmmmmmm !help!
[20:14] <Portugal> thanks ratcheer
[20:14] <gandhijee_> hey, what the heck happened to ubuntu 12.04
[20:14] <gandhijee_> why the hell is the crosscompile env so damn broken?
[20:14] <brandon> i cannot mount my phone!
[20:14] <guntbert> !please | brandon
[20:14] <Random832> amews_aj-study: well there are different degrees of paranoid - a single pass isn't that much more difficult than overwriting with zero, so it's not a big deal
[20:14] <Portugal> Meris: I don't go on the Ubuntu Support IRC chatrrom to joke
[20:14] <delac> Meris: yes, they could. Unfortunately I think they propably do not have any kind of preferences for the advertisement at the moment. They might be willing to do some  if someone would propose that.
[20:15] <Random832> but there are some people who insist on 25 of specific patterns and then multiple passes of randomness
[20:15] <guntbert> Portugal: no, the default file system is ext4 these days
[20:15] <brandon> guntburt please man just leave me alone
[20:15] <amews_aj-study> Random832, agreed, I wasn't looking for random bit overwrite. Zero would have been ok. I don't use linux as my primary OS, so I just searched for a way to wipe a disk in linux (livecd), and found the "wipe" utility.
[20:16] <kr3at0r> btrfs vs zfs
[20:16] <kr3at0r> which is fastest
[20:16] <DJones> !poll | kr3at0r
[20:16] <Portugal> Is there a way to create a Ext4 partition from Windows?
[20:16] <suprit_> hi
[20:16] <kr3at0r> a filesystem isn't an application
[20:16] <kr3at0r> retard
[20:16] <guntbert> Portugal: no, why?
[20:16] <suprit_> how to create a live cd in ubuntu
[20:16] <Random832> amews_aj-study: well the traditional way is dd if=/dev/zero of=disk
[20:16] <brandon> jr3ator hes just a bot ingore him
[20:16] <amews_aj-study> Random832,  Great to know :)
[20:16] <Random832> oh and bs=1M - default dd block size is slow as all hell
[20:17] <DJones> kr3at0r: Calling people names won't help you get questions asked
[20:17] <Portugal> Gunbert: Because I would like to Linux Mint or Xubuntu on it
[20:17] <guntbert> !attitude | kr3at0r no "what is better" discussions here please
[20:17] <brandon> krat0r *
[20:17] <kr3at0r> i know
[20:17] <kr3at0r> btrfs is buggy from what i hear
[20:17] <kr3at0r> zfs is more stable
[20:17] <brandon> guntbert STOP IT
[20:17] <Portugal> guntbert: The installer doesn't show me the option to install it alongside Windows
[20:17] <kr3at0r> btrfs is supposed to be pretty fast for I/O
[20:17] <ratcheer> suprit_: Right click the file in Nautilus, select "Write to disc"
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> kr3at0r  wrong channel
[20:17] <brandon> guntbert | !spam
[20:18] <ikonia> brandon: he's not spamming - stop it
[20:18] <amews_aj-study> Random832, The "wipe" completed hours ago - I guess it should be fine, right?
[20:18] <kr3at0r> is this not a linux channel
[20:18] <kr3at0r> where we discuss about linux
[20:18] <kr3at0r> OWNED
[20:18] <ikonia> kr3at0r: ##linux is
[20:18] <ikonia> kr3at0r: this one is #ubuntu, for ubuntu discussion
[20:18] <DJones> kr3at0r: This is an Ubuntu channel, not general linux chat
[20:18] <brandon> he keeps having the bot say stuff
[20:18] <baazigar> hello, how to prevent ubuntu from going on standby?
[20:18] <ikonia> brandon: yes, to help people
[20:18] <kr3at0r> stop flooding me with the bot
[20:18] <kr3at0r> im just here to chat
[20:18] <paxwell_> im here to chat
[20:18] <brandon> ikonia can u help me then
[20:18] <ikonia> kr3at0r: topic of this channel is Ubuntu, general linux is in the ##linux channel
[20:18] <paxwell_> can you help me
[20:19] <brandon> ik i cannot mount my phone
[20:19] <ikonia> brandon: just ask the channel, someone maybe able to help
[20:19] <suprit_> @ratcheer i have to install some packages on all the pcs during the time time of installatioin of linux so i want to create a bootable cd which will consist all the packages
[20:19] <kr3at0r> get me voice in inux
[20:19] <kr3at0r> plz
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> kr3at0r  try #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:19] <ikonia> !register | kr3at0r
[20:19] <kr3at0r> hahaha
[20:19] <Portugal> kr3at0r: This is a Support Channel for people who know answers to the people who need help, not a chatroom!
[20:19] <kr3at0r> i need help
[20:19] <kr3at0r> picking a file system
[20:19] <ikonia> kr3at0r: you need to resiger a nickname to chat in ##linux
[20:19] <kr3at0r> that is all
[20:19] <ikonia> kr3at0r: ubuntu supports ext4 as it's default
[20:19] <brandon> can someone please help me i need to mount my phone but the pc wont
[20:20] <h00k> brandon: can you give more details, Ubuntu version, Phone make/model, etc
[20:20] <guntbert> Portugal: if you start the installer inside windows you won't get a "real" ubuntu, download an image file, md5sum check it and burn it to a CD, boot from that
[20:20] <baazigar> Hello, how to prevent ubuntu from going on sleep automatically??
[20:20] <brandon> ubuntu 11.10 samsung freeform 2
[20:20] <ikonia> baazigar: power managment menu
[20:20] <baazigar> I am cloning a repo and it sleeps in between.
[20:20] <brandon> baaz
[20:21] <IdleOne> !tab | brandon
[20:21] <brandon> go to the battery
[20:21] <Portugal> guntbert: What you mean by that? So, Wubi doesn't give me the real Ubuntu or What?
[20:21] <brandon> then power setting
[20:21] <brandon> then chang it
[20:22] <timothyjr> Iḿ having a problem with both chrome and firefox displaying some webpages as completely blank.  I recently change network.http.accept-coding to true
[20:22] <brandon> Portugal, it is the real ubuntu
[20:22] <guntbert> Portugal: right, the whole installation is just inside one file in the windows file system - not too reliable :)
[20:22] <suprit_> i have to install some packages on all the pcs during the time time of installatioin of linux so i want to create a bootable cd which will consist all the packages
[20:22] <baazigar> brandon, ikonia , the options say do nothing when idle.
[20:22] <ikonia> baazigar: that's a bit worrying
[20:22] <brandon> ok
[20:22] <Portugal> guntbert: But I want to dual boot and the installer doesn't let me do that for some reason
[20:23] <plivent> elllop
[20:23] <brandon> well idle to all
[20:23] <Meris> I'm trying to reduce the speed that Load Cycle Count (SMART parking value) is increasing on my Western Digital Caviar Green HDD
[20:23] <brandon> i guess people arnt gonna awnser my qeastion
[20:23] <Meris> I only own the thing less then a week, but my LCC is already on 6899
[20:24] <guntbert> Portugal: sorry, I never tried the wubi path, why don't you download the iso  for the live CD to try it out and evetually install it along windows
[20:24] <pvssanjeev> hi.. need help in getting the HDMI to work on UBUNTU 1204
[20:24] <anders1138> installing from iso works better than wubi
[20:24] <anders1138> and faster
[20:24] <pvssanjeev> I am on DELL XPS L501X
[20:25] <Portugal> guntbert: I tried that but the installer doesn't give me the option to install Ubuntu along Windows
[20:25] <ikonia> Portugal: you need to have free/unallocated space on the disk
[20:25] <pvssanjeev> there seems be a problem with the nVIDIA drivers i guess
[20:25] <Portugal> ikonia, I have
[20:26] <Portugal> I have like 40GB and it would be 60 if I unninstalled Wubi
[20:26] <Portugal> ikonia
[20:26] <guntbert> Portugal: you booted the live CD and selected "install"?
[20:26] <Portugal> yes
[20:26] <pvssanjeev> hi
[20:26] <plivent> what do u recon is the best server os for a media server
[20:26] <Portugal> Then it only gave me 2 options: Erase all and install and Advanced Partition
[20:27] <Portugal> ikonia, I think that was it
[20:27] <pvssanjeev> anyone who can help with my HDMI issues
[20:27] <ikonia> Portugal: you have no unallocated space
[20:27] <anders1138> yeah
[20:27] <anders1138> boot a live session from a cd
[20:27] <Portugal> ikonia: NOOOO, I have 40 GB and it would be 60GB without Wubi
[20:28] <ikonia> Portugal: YEEEEEEES you're whole disk is allocated to the windows partition
[20:28] <anders1138> and use gparted to unlocate sme space
[20:28] <ikonia> Portugal: that is "no unallocated" space
[20:29] <Portugal> ikonia, but on previous Ubuntu releases it gave me the option to install it along Windows and It did the partitioning right there, I didn't need to unnallocate space at all
[20:29] <anders1138> yes
[20:29] <lJ6il> Hello there. My grub doesn't work correctly after a dual boot install ("no such partition"). I'd like to use boot-repair but it tells me this : "echoversion_or_g2slaunch: command not found"
[20:29] <lJ6il> does someone know what it is ? Google doesn't.
[20:29] <anders1138> but unallocated space means unpartitioned space
[20:29] <ikonia> Portugal: you can argue this all you want, I'm trying to help you, I'm explaining the problem and what you need to do to resolve it, quouting previous versions at me, or saying how much free space windows has won't change that
[20:30] <Portugal> ikonia: Ok. What do I need to do?
[20:30] <pvssanjeev> lJ6il : try running the live CD
[20:30] <ikonia> Portugal: exactly what I told you approx 20 lines up
[20:30] <lJ6il> ok thanks pvssanjeev
[20:31] <anders1138> you must shrink a partition from Windows
[20:31] <pvssanjeev> the bootconfig would have been corrupted
[20:31] <Portugal> Portugal: you need to have free/unallocated space on the disk: ikonia, this?
[20:32] <ikonia> Portugal: you need to shrink your windows partition from a liveCD so you have unallocated to space to install ubuntu to
[20:32] <pvssanjeev> Portugal: If  u have windows.. u can try logging and shrinking ur volume there as well
[20:32] <ikonia> pvssanjeev: he can't do it from within windows as the partition will be in use
[20:33] <Portugal> ikonia and pvssanjeev. After the install, will I have the Windows bootloader or grub?
[20:33] <ikonia> Portugal: grub
[20:33] <anders1138> ikonia: he can use Partition Manager in Win7, what Windows does he have?
[20:33] <pvssanjeev> Ikonia: i remember doing that in windows... i shall go with you
[20:33] <anders1138> Portugal: yes
[20:34] <bwat47> ikonia: with win vista/win7 its partition manager can resize/shrink ntfs partitions on the fly even when they are in use
[20:34] <ikonia> try it, it fails more often than not
[20:34] <bwat47> i've done it many times :)
[20:34] <Portugal> ikonia, I really want the Windows bootloader because I'm still finding the right Distro And I would want to delete partitions and create new ones until I find the right one
[20:34] <ikonia> I would not resize any partition that is in use from any os
[20:35] <pvssanjeev> Portugal: If u r installing within windows... it would be WINDOWS BOOT LOADER. If this is a parallel it would be grub
[20:35] <ikonia> Portugal: I don't care any more - you can either a.) accept the help and advice b.) find reasons not to do it as you are doing
[20:35] <bwat47> ikonia: trust me, I've done it MANY times. it does work
[20:35] <plivent> nonr
[20:36] <pvssanjeev> need some help on HDMI-UBUNTU-NVIDIA
[20:36] <Portugal> ikonia: c.) Install Linux Mint 13 Cinammon and keep the Windows Bootloader because I might not like that version and the LiveCD doesn't show me the real performance of the OS
[20:37] <ikonia> Portugal: linux mint uses grub
[20:37] <ikonia> Portugal: either way, I'm no longer interested, if you need help with mint the channel is on a different IRC network
[20:38] <HelloWorld321> Would you recommend proprietary nVidia drivers or default Ubuntu OpenSource drivers, for an nVidia card?
[20:38] <ikonia> HelloWorld321: depends on the card and the support / performance you requrie
[20:38] <ikonia> require
[20:38] <Portugal> HelloWorld321: try the proprietary onne first, if you like it: keep. If not go with the opensource one
[20:40] <HelloWorld321> I guess I'm most worried about stability, compatiblity and software upgrades.  I've got a Windows box for gaming, though really if one is to have a dedicated gaming box, that's what consoles are for.  But I digress.  I'm mostly thinking down the road, which will I have less hassle with?
[20:41] <ikonia> HelloWorld321: again, depends on your card
[20:42] <timothyjr> I dont get it, firefox is serving up completely blank pages for a number of different sites.  including ubuntuforums.org
[20:42] <bwat47> HelloWorld321: sometimes proprietary drivers do break with big kernel/xorg updates, but they should be fine for the most part regarding updates, since ubuntu generally doesn't update those until the next version
[20:42] <jasonbourne> can anyone shed some light on how to get Windoze games to run on Ubuntu 12.04LTS or where I can find info on how to do it??
[20:42] <Monkey_b> hey guys, what does it mean when i see a bunch of processes that say [fuser] defunct in my machine?
[20:42] <BluesKaj> i have an odd issue (to me at least) with grub , it appears to be installed on the boot (main HDD) priority , but grub always lists the 2nd HDD as the deafult drive to auto boot if no selection is made in grub , both drives are sata ..the main drive is the priority in th BIOS.
[20:42] <Monkey_b> i must have like 100's of these
[20:42] <ikonia> jasonbourne: 1.) it's called "Windows" not "windoze"
[20:43] <ikonia> jasonbourne: 2.) I'd advise you not to depend on Wine to run games on linux, my view is that Windows games are designed to run on Windows, and trying to use them on other operating systems/depending on a solution is just trouble
[20:43] <Monkey_b> correction, 1000's of processes that say: 30642 ?        Z      0:00 [fuser] <defunct>
[20:43] <jasonbourne> I like to call Billy  Boy Gates junk Windoze....
[20:43] <timothyjr> ikonia, when youŕe watching that little hourglass it feels like Windoze
[20:43] <Portugal> jasonbourne: PlayOnLinux, available at the Software Center
[20:43] <ikonia> timothyjr: it's called Windows
[20:43] <ikonia> jasonbourne: I'd advise you to stay clear of PlayOnLinux and Wine as a solution for games
[20:43] <jasonbourne> ikonia - sorry but your wrong because I know it's possible just don't know how to do it...
[20:43] <timothyjr> I know what itś called
[20:44] <ikonia> jasonbourne: what do you mean "I'm wrong"
[20:44] <jasonbourne> ikonia - you say its looking for trouble when I know that it's possible...
[20:44] <ikonia> jasonbourne: I didn't say it wasn't possible
[20:44] <jagginess> jasonbourne, whine on #wine
[20:44] <jagginess> ^
[20:44] <ikonia> jasonbourne: there are abstraction layers tools such as "wine" (playonlinux is a front end to that)
[20:45] <bwat47> it is possible via solutions like wine and playonlinux. games may or may not work well with them, check winhq for wine game compatability
[20:45] <ikonia> jasonbourne: however depending on them is not a solution as not all games work, games can work badly, games can work fine one day, then not work at all the next day, hence depending on the solution is "looking for trouble"
[20:45] <HelloWorld321> ikonia: It's an nVidia GT430     (VGA EVGA|01G-P3-1431-KR GT430 1G R)
[20:45] <ikonia> jasonbourne: the guys in #winehq can walk you through your wine journey should you choose to progress it
[20:45] <ikonia> HelloWorld321: you'll have to research it's compatability
[20:46] <jasonbourne> ikonia - exactly...so where do I go to get it running?? I had PlayOnLinux installed on this laptop when I had OpenSUSE on it but could not figure out how to get it running...
[20:46] <Rhombix> hi
[20:46] <jasonbourne> ikonia - I'll try there...
[20:46] <Rhombix> I've just installed Ubuntu and I'm unable to boot
[20:46] <Rhombix> The error messafe reads "partition not found"
[20:47] <jagginess> Rhombix, did you let grub do its install to the first harddrive?
[20:47] <jasonbourne> #winehq
[20:47] <Rhombix> I installed it to a 320GB USB drive
[20:47] <plivent> woh woh soh soh
[20:47] <auntieneo> so I'm having problems with booting ubuntu with an NFS root. the initrd mounts everything just fine, but then when init (upstart) starts, it goes for a while, then about 30 seconds later the system freezes and the screen displays garbage pixels
[20:47] <Rhombix> Just wanted to say, I've been working on this for 12 hours now, and any help would be much appreciated...
[20:48] <auntieneo> no blinkin' lights on the keyboard, idk if the kernel paniced or what but I can't ping the box at that point
[20:49] <OerHeks> HelloWorld321, : NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] works fine with the additional 295.40 driver
[20:49] <auntieneo> I'm looking for ideas as to which upstart script might have caused that... I'm guessing it was some init script
[20:49] <Rhombix> I've read that my problem may be caused by the partitioning
[20:49] <plivent> went into mcdonalds today and ordered a big mac for her
[20:49] <plivent> and ordered 2 mcgrittles one for each kid. one had bacon one without
[20:49] <ikonia> plivent: stop
[20:49] <DJones> plivent: Wrong channel
[20:49] <Rhombix> It's possible that the boot info is written to a part of the drive that is innaccessible to my BIOS
[20:50] <Mattias> Anyone knows how to get windows to recognize hdds in kvm? I made the virtual machine 100gb, which should be plenty.. but the windows installation can't find anything, not a single hdd drive
[20:50] <Rhombix> So now I'm trying to copy the data to another part of the disk - any help?
[20:50] <Mattias> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/libvirt.html <-- been following this
[20:51] <auntieneo> Rhombix: how did you install ubuntu?
[20:51] <sven2> Hi there
[20:52] <plivent> WOH OH
[20:52] <ikonia> plivent: please stop that
[20:52] <hector549> I am having a problem with my gcc install on Ubuntu Studio, is this the right place for some help?
[20:53] <kamiram> шэдд вшу
[20:53] <Rhombix> auntieneo: I installed it via CDr, using the prompt
[20:53] <auntieneo> Rhombix: do you have specific files you still want on the disk, or can you wipe it and try again?
[20:53] <kamiram> i'll die. about 5 yuears. what can i do ?
[20:54] <ikonia> kamiram: stop messing around please.
[20:54] <kamiram> i really  ill
[20:54] <Portugal> Kamiram, This is a support channel, not a High School Drama Club
[20:54] <bwat47> !ops kamiram spamming channel
[20:54] <ikonia> bwat47: he's not spamming
[20:55] <ikonia> bwat47: he's made one comment, it's under control
[20:55] <bwat47> 3
[20:55] <auronandace> kamiram: make yourself useful and post bug reports in the time you have left
[20:55] <kamiram> i can help somebody. i'm programmer
[20:55] <kamiram> cool programmer
[20:55] <plivent> anyone ROHing?
[20:55] <ikonia> auronandace: don't try to make a problem - he's been asked to stop, don't push him to start again
[20:55] <ikonia> kamiram: you're in an ubuntu support channel, do you need help with ubuntu
[20:55] <Portugal> ikonia, he's trolling. With Russian Characters and stuff That makes no sense
[20:56] <auronandace> ikonia: apologies
[20:56] <auntieneo> ikonia: kick kamiram too
[20:56] <kamiram> test
[20:56] <kamiram> i'm qa
[20:56] <ikonia> kamiram: do you need help with ubuntu yes/no ?
[20:56] <Portugal> c'mon, KICK HIM OUT!
[20:56] <ikonia> kamiram: we can see you
[20:56] <ikonia> Portugal: stop now
[20:56] <plivent> sorry oh
[20:56] <kamiram> i can give htlp
[20:56] <plivent> i was just asking about media server
[20:56] <plivent> LOH OH
[20:57] <ikonia> kamiram: ok, then please be quiet until you see someone you can help
[20:58] <kamiram> plivent? some fore mediaserver on lan?
[20:58] <ikonia> kamiram: he's left
[20:58] <lady_Bit> hey :)
[20:58] <Portugal> kamiram, someone banned him
[20:59] <kamiram> ikonia, sorry, i'm russian bear.
[21:00] <akashj87> lol
[21:00] <Portugal> ikonia, YEAH!! SHOW 'em who's boss!
[21:00] <ikonia> Portugal: I won't ask you again - stop with that sort of thing
[21:01] <Portugal> ikonia, Ok. I'm sorry for the inconvenience.
[21:01] <hector549> Not to nag, but anyone able to help out with gcc?
[21:01] <ikonia> hector549: just ask the question, if someone can help they will
[21:02] <alusion> Hey I was using unetbootin to boot a live usb, does unet not work?
[21:02] <Portugal> alusion: UNet does work with most of the distroes
[21:02] <hector549> I am compiling a test application which calls a method from libmath, despite a "-lm" argument on the command line, it errors out with undefined reference.
[21:03] <ikonia> hector549: why do you think that's a problem with gcc ?
[21:03] <bwat47> alusion: it should work, just used it the other day to make an ubuntu liveusb. if it doesn't work for you there are other methods to make liveusb's though
[21:04] <hector549> I don't think it is gcc, but the installation thereof.  The same file compiles fine on other machines, and I cannot get code from mature projects to compile either.
[21:04] <ikonia> hector549: ok, so it's either going to be an incompatability between dependencies, a missing dependency or a bug in the code
[21:04] <Portugal> If you are using it to create a LiveUsb of Ubuntu, you rather use Startup Disk Creator which comes pre-installed with Ubuntu alusion
[21:05] <trism> hector549: can you pastebin the command line you used? the placement of -lm matters in 11.10+
[21:05] <hector549> trism: http://pastebin.com/GkmBeHCM
[21:06] <pseudonymous> Where to get more help on command 'pacmd' ? I have no SINK for an otherwise detected CARD (ie. 'pacmd list-sinks' does not see my USB device, 'pacmd list-cards' does)
[21:06] <trism> hector549: gcc -o sintest sintest.c -lm
[21:07] <hector549> trism: You win 1000 kudos.  Thank you very much.
[21:07] <trism> hector549: no problem
[21:07] <ikonia> trism: slick
[21:07] <Portugal> I'm thinking of creating an App, I've done one before in XCode for Mac so I gotta learn a lot of stuff, which app do you guys recommend I use? I want something simple and super GUI-based
[21:08] <jagginess> Portugal, gambas2
[21:08] <Portugal> thanks
[21:08] <jagginess> Portugal, it's RAD-like
[21:09] <jagginess> Portugal, very gui oriented and uses BASIC
[21:09] <jagginess> (or some kind of "gambas" BASIC..)
[21:09] <jagginess> Portugal, I believe gambas3 is out.. i dont know if its in the repos
[21:10] <Portugal> jagginess: no, it's not
[21:12] <species> where have all the settings UI's gone in unity desktop?
[21:12] <Portugal> jagginess: Gambas 3.2 has been released on sourceforge
[21:12] <species> the screensaver pane has disappeared, cannot be navigated to from system settings
[21:13] <species> and the power pane is a joke; it has two configurables, and a tip regarding a brightness setting that isnt there
[21:14] <species> im trying to turn off display deactivation (how it turns off the display when its idle for a while)
[21:14] <guntbert> species: stop that ranting in a support channel - it will not help to improve anything
[21:14] <species> these things need to be added back in.
[21:14] <species> i appreciate that there's been an overhaul
[21:14] <bekks> Then create feature requests instead of ranting.
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> species  the system won't be altered for the needs of one individual
[21:15] <jagginess> Portugal, https://launchpad.net/~nemh/+archive/gambas3
[21:16] <species> i doubt that screensaver settings are the needs of just one individual
[21:16] <Portugal> jagginess: I already have it through SourceForge, but thanks
[21:16] <species> there must be issues filed already?
[21:17] <Portugal> species. Do you have any questions? If not, byebye
[21:17] <jagginess> Portugal, should avoid sf for the moment.. because it's not always an out-of-box readiness... you want PPA , that way you can simply apt-get install it
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> species  take a look at !brainstorm, maybe someone did
[21:17] <jagginess> Portugal, (it's 3.2 which is pretty recent in PPA)
[21:17] <species> right but these things used to be there
[21:18] <species> its not a new feature request
[21:18] <Portugal> ok
[21:19] <Guest61709> hey guys
[21:20] <Bijan588> I have a question
[21:20] <jagginess> Portugal, after you do an apt-get update (as instructions from the ppa site), you can do apt-cache search gambas, and find the package name (probably it's gambas3-- so it would be apt-get install gambas3)
[21:20] <Bijan588> what could cause consistant filesystem corruptions?
[21:21] <jagginess> Bijan588, which linux filesystem?
[21:21] <bekks> Bijan588: There are numerous causes for a filesystem to get corrupted.
[21:21] <Bijan588> EXT2
[21:21] <hector549> Bijan588: large magnets?
[21:21] <kanliot> bad cable, overheating cpu
[21:21] <Bijan588> Its a macbook g4
[21:21] <bwat47> you should consider a journaling filesystem if you are experiencing corruption
[21:21] <Bijan588> ibook*
[21:21] <jagginess> Bijan588, it could be hardware
[21:22] <Bijan588> After an fsdisk check the problem seems to go away, so its hard to day what the issue is.
[21:23] <jagginess> Bijan588, maybe the drive was overheating.. does the drive support s.m.a.r.t ?
[21:23] <Bijan588> No\
[21:23] <species> ooh heres a problem...
[21:23] <species> ive searched for "screensaver" in the untity interface and its run xscreensaver
[21:23] <species> which is now telling me it wants to disable gnome screensaver
[21:24] <auronandace> Bijan588: are you unmounting the filesystem properly?
[21:24] <DJones> species: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64086/how-can-i-change-or-install-screensavers
[21:25] <species> well, this is a defect i think
[21:25] <species> am i wrong in suggesting that the first search option for a term such as "screensaver" should not be xscreensaver?
[21:25] <species> given that gnome has moved over to gnome screensaver?
[21:26] <bekks> species: Why do you think that search results have to semantically in the order you want them or even sorted?
[21:26] <species> xscreensaver is no longer the default right>?
[21:27] <numberto> tmux shortcuts not working in my terminal, does anybody knows how to troubleshoot that?
[21:27] <species> bekks: actually, its the only result if you search for "screensaver"
[21:28] <bwat47> species: its only default in xubuntu, ubuntu uses gnome-screensaver by default
[21:28] <species> should there be a UI for it?
[21:28] <Eric_> Erm, anyone knows how do you solve the modem driver problem?
[21:28] <bwat47> species: there is in the gnome control center, doesn't show up in unity dash
[21:29] <species> i think that is a defect.
[21:29] <species> im new to unity, and I understand that its still in its early stages, but a lot seems to be missing
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> species  maybe it's you, not unity
[21:30] <bwat47> species: actually I don't see an entry for it in gnome control center anymore either
[21:30] <species> MonkeyDust: im certain im not the only one in the world who uses a UI to configure screensavers, for example
[21:30] <bwat47> think was settings for it there in either 11.04 or 11.10, but not in 12.01 i guess
[21:30] <pseudonymous> How in the nine hells do I get my damned USB soundcard working, PulseAudio is a damned PEST :(
[21:31] <bwat47> pseudonymous: usually all you should have to do is set it as output in the sound settings, unless something is weong
[21:31] <Dr_willis> if its supported by alsa
[21:32] <Mattias> pseudonymous: you install alsa :P
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> species  i, for one, don't use screensavers
[21:32] <jagginess> pseudonymous, i've used usb audio headset without problem.. same module may apply here.. sudo modprobe snd-usb-audio<enter>, then relogin
[21:32] <species> MonkeyDust: how do you turn them off with a fresh install of 12.04?
[21:32] <xangua> species http://shuffleos.com/3176/how-to-enable-screensavers-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelt/
[21:32] <Dr_willis> gnome has had very minimal screensaver/screensaver configs.. for some time now.. theres xscreensavers if you want more control
[21:32] <Mattias> I had to get PulseAudio because it was the easiest way to get both mic input together with "what you hear" on my usb headset
[21:32] <bwat47> species: do you just want to turn off screen blanking/locking?
[21:32] <bwat47> species: there are options for those under "brightness and lock"
[21:33] <species> bwat47: i found that yeah
[21:33] <Eric_> Everytime I connect my USB modem, the entry appears in the connection list for a second then dissapears again. A little later a system error dialog appears stating that 'modem' thingy has crashed
[21:33] <xangua> (16:25:46) species: given that gnome has moved over to gnome screensaver? - and gnome3 no loger has a screensaver, or at least not one that i am aware off
[21:33] <species> MonkeyDust: right now, getting basic settings changed requires command line usage and this means I cant honestly recommend 12.04 to my parents, for example
[21:33] <pseudonymous> how do I set it as output ? Regardless of which sound device I select from the list (btw, usb sound card shown twice...), whenever I click test it shows the test dialog as being from my INTERNAL sound card
[21:33] <eb_> I wondered if I might toss out a boot loader problem I'm having (that I brought on myself!).  I have a MacBook onto which I've installed rEFIt and Ubuntu 12.04.  Dual boots just fine.  I intentionally left open a 50GB section of free space for a third OS.  I installed Sabayon linux into that just now.  It finished and when I reboot I get the usual OS selector from rEFIt.  But whenever I pick a linux OS - Sabayon or Ubuntu, the OS halts, te
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> species  i'm not the right person, to me, the command line IS basic :)
[21:34] <species> MonkeyDust: not if you are my mother
[21:35] <bwat47> pseudonymous: have you tried rebooting or restarting pulseaudio? with my usb headset I've had that issue randomly crop up until I do that
[21:35] <bwat47> pseudonymous: try running pulseaudio -k and then selecting it again
[21:35] <species> im a programmer, i spend most of my time in vim or an IDE, so the DE is never visible to me anyway, but in the past ive set up machines running ubuntu for family members
[21:35] <species> with the current state of affairs it would be totally unsuitable for them
[21:36] <species> the last thing I need is for them to have to search google for what console commands to enter to get things done
[21:36] <species> because I will get non stop phone calls
[21:36]  * xurious hates that.
[21:36] <guntbert> species: and we get non stop ranting from you :-(
[21:36] <species> well, this ends my evaluation of 12.04 i think
[21:38] <pseudonymous> bwat47: lol - 'pulseaudio -k' actually worked, after some wrestling it ended up allowing me to select USB headset and then it worked
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> species  you could start a blog
[21:38] <tking_> this file  worked http://ideone.com/KDtWs  so i splitted to 3 files header and 2 cpp files like http://ideone.com/qy6tZ but it wudnt compile pls anyone know the probs?
[21:38] <bwat47> pseudonymous: yeah i've had that exact same issue! its a bug, and it seems to be fixed in pulseaudio 2.0. I had the same issue in other distros, including my archlinux install. it seemed to go away after arch got the pulse 2.0 update :)
[21:39] <species> im sure there are plenty of blog posts ranting about gnome3
[21:39] <pseudonymous> species: if you're a programmer, make some quick gui's to rectify the shortcomings you're dealing with ? (didn't read what the problem was, just passing on what I thought in relation to some problems of MINE)
[21:40] <species> pseudonymous: i was just asking a few questions, but i think my tone was disappointed sounding
[21:40] <tking_> !commands
[21:40] <pseudonymous> bwat47: well thanks, man. I can't believe how especially audio continues to foil me. It seems like yesterday that we switched to Alsa and I was compiling support for it in my kernel and these days I'm no less stupified when it fck's up
[21:40] <species> pseudonymous: context: i had my parents on 9.04 for a while, and they were fairly happy, and I was evaluating 12.04 as a replacement
[21:41] <tking_> !ubottu
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> species  there are, it's new and therefore controversial
[21:41] <species> MonkeyDust: im currently looking at 12.04 lts
[21:41] <pseudonymous> species: so what's the problem with it ? I just moved both my parents to 12.04 and they didn't seem stomped on Unity
[21:42] <Eric_> meh. Back to MINT!
[21:42] <delac> species: you might want to look at gnome classic. needs a bit setting up but is otherwise pretty  familiar
[21:43] <kvv> test
[21:43] <guntbert> kvv: use #test fo testing
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> species  i don't like unity, either, so i don't use it, i use classic
[21:43] <species> ive already looked at gnome classic, its actually a reimplementation of 2.0 like behaviour, but its not complete
[21:43] <species> MonkeyDust: does *anybody* like unity?
[21:43] <pseudonymous> species: the key is to take their familiar icons, and write .desktop files for that in ~/.local/share/applications - as to retain familiar icons and text, but aside from that, neither of my parents were stumped (and one of them isn't really that quick to pick stuff up in general)
[21:44] <pseudonymous> species: I actually like Unity as of 12.04. Sure it's canonical's pet-project and not that accessible to other distros (a SHAME!) but otherwise, it works quite well now.
[21:44] <delac> species: yes, but usable for most
[21:44] <kvv> #test
[21:44] <guntbert> kvv: no -- join the channel #test
[21:44] <HiddenKnowledge> kvv: You can use /join to join channels. Like this: /join #test
[21:45] <kvv> Ah, thanks. Sorry, I am new to IRC.
[21:45] <HiddenKnowledge> No problem :)
[21:45] <species> i might look at xubuntu
[21:45] <kanliot> lubuntu
[21:45] <delac> species: or mint mait
[21:46] <delac> species: or mint mate*
[21:46] <species> it makes me sad that canonical are pouring so much effort into unity when it sucks so bad
[21:46] <species> waste of talent
[21:48] <species> luckily, microsoft are in the middle of making an even bigger mistake
[21:48] <plbszr> :)
[21:48] <Pierreb> where is the setting file for vim in ubuntu?
[21:48] <species> tablet UI's should be the default on tablet PC's, and off by default on a desktop PC
[21:48] <pseudonymous> species: what is so bad about unity ? Sure it *was* horrible. The performance, stability etc was off-the-charts-bad.. But now it's quite alright, and the HUD made it better for power-users. What's your gripe ? And especially, what makes you think your parents won't grok it ?
[21:48] <Pierreb> can't find anything in ~/home/user/.vimrc it doesnt exist
[21:49] <kvv> Pierre: it's ~/.vimrc
[21:49] <kvv> @Pierreb: I don't think there is a default vimrc
[21:49] <Pierreb> kvv: it doesnt exist
[21:49] <kvv> You need to create it
[21:49] <Pierreb> asnd ubuntu dont read it if i create it
[21:50] <Pierreb> or more like vim doesnt read it
[21:50] <kvv> Oh even when you restart vim?
[21:50] <Pierreb> yepp
[21:50] <eb_> I have a MacBook onto which I've installed rEFIt and Ubuntu 12.04.  Dual boots just fine.  I intentionally left open a 50GB section of free space for a third OS.  I installed Sabayon linux into that just now.  It finished and when I reboot I get the usual OS selector from rEFIt.  But whenever I pick a linux OS - Sabayon or Ubuntu, the OS halts, telling me no system disk is installed.  The Mac OS boots fine.  What did I break and how do I f
[21:50] <delac> yes, trying to use same ui for mouse and touchscreen just doesnt seem to work well.
[21:51] <species> Pierreb: it should do
[21:51] <species> Pierreb: in vim, try :source ~\.vimrc
[21:51] <kvv> This maybe stupid but the file is /home/user/.vimrc
[21:51] <kvv> not ~/home/user/.vimrc
[21:51] <species> erm yes
[21:51] <species> Pierreb: ~ is an alias for /home/<username>
[21:52] <species> so you want ~/.vimrc
[21:52] <Pierreb> yes i know i jsut wrote wrong
[21:52] <guntbert> Pierreb: in vim issue :version to see where it is looking for the file
[21:52] <species> ok
[21:52] <species> Pierreb: :version
[21:52] <species> oh, beaten to it
[21:52] <Pierreb> user vimrc file: "$HOME/.vimrc"
[21:52] <species> Pierreb: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Open_vimrc_file
[21:53] <ClientAlive> an someone please help me? I need xulrunner for another app to work and I've been working for the last 3 hrs to solve the problem  After unpacking, when I run "xulrunner --register-local" I'm told "command not found". Please. I need to get this working and I'm not finding the answers I need.
[21:54] <guntbert> Pierreb: so create a file .vimrc  in your home directory, it will be honored
[21:54] <ClientAlive> I read that ubuntu took xulrunner out of the repos
[21:54] <Pierreb> :source ~/.vimrc worked
[21:54] <species> well, so far so good
[21:54] <Pierreb> still strange that vim won't read it at the start
[21:54] <species> yeah
[21:55] <species> and :version tells you that it went through ~/.vimrc ?
[21:55] <guntbert> Pierreb: it does read it
[21:55] <species> Pierreb: could you paste the output from :version into http://paste.ubuntu.com/ ?
[21:55] <Pierreb> guntbert: impossible, otherwise it would load the colortheme
[21:56] <vansid> Anyone having a problem on 10.04.4 with flashplugin-nonfree packge dependancies?
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> !find xul
[21:57] <Pierreb> species: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1092245/
[21:57] <snakes33> how do i get xchat to give my a list of all room on this server?
[21:57] <species> Pierreb: well, it has found it then
[21:57] <guntbert> Pierreb: are you certain that you got the syntax right?
[21:57] <species> Pierreb: no errors on vim startup?
[21:57] <Pierreb> gaunif if i source the file it will change the colortheme
[21:57] <guntbert> snakes33: don't (over 10000), use alis to find what you need
[21:57] <Pierreb> so i guess it is right
[21:58] <Pierreb> but on startup it has the default one loaded
[21:58] <mdel> hey all - having a bit of a problem getting nvidia drivers to work with my Geforce 6600
[21:58] <HiddenKnowledge> guntbert: How does one use alis?
[21:58] <snakes33> guntbert thanks
[21:58] <mdel> i have the nvidia_current installed form the swat-X PPA
[21:58] <snakes33> guntbert - so its /alis?
[21:59] <mdel> sudo modprobe nvidia == No such device
[21:59] <mdel> any ideas?
[21:59] <guntbert> !alis | snakes33 HiddenKnowledge
[21:59] <snakes33> thanks
[22:00] <HiddenKnowledge> Thank you :)
[22:00] <guntbert> snakes33: you're welcome :)
[22:00] <dumnut_> hi, i have 2 ubuntu 12.04 computers. iwant to access the other's files. i went to wireless icon on top left and edited it, but still no connection. what more must i do?
[22:01] <vansid> mdel: try  to fully remove the PPA first "sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory>"
[22:01] <snakes33> dumnut_ which wany do you want to transfer the files?
[22:01] <snakes33> *way
[22:01] <mdel> vansid: i just installed it...
[22:01] <mdel> im using the 302 drivers, latest
[22:02] <dumnut_> hi snakes33, i downloaded some movies in comuter 1, i want computer 2 to be a ble to access files in computer 1
[22:03] <JamezQ> dumnut_: If they are connected to the same network, that should not be hard. But did you say one had no connection?
[22:03] <dumnut_> hi JamezQ, both computers are connected to my router
[22:05] <vansid> mdel: do you see any files with the name nvidia* in "/etc/modprobe.d/" ?
[22:07] <JamezQ> dumnut_: Alright, there are many ways. For me I just can right click the folder, and then click properties->share->share this folder
[22:07] <Krenair> My Windows 7 partition is recognised and it mounted when I go to it in nautilus, but is there any way to have it auto-mounted when I log in?
[22:07] <JamezQ> dumnut_: I might have set up something before that, let me look. Other ways you can do with are a local ftp or sftp connection.
[22:07] <mrdeb> hello. i copied theme to /usr/sharethemes but cant change it with obconf. no permission
[22:08] <dumnut_> JamezQ: ok, how can i setup with ftp or sftp?
[22:08] <snakes33> alis is really helpful.
[22:08] <snakes33> @ the one who recommended it to me
[22:08] <trism> mrdeb: does obconf let you edit the theme? if so, try unpacking to ~/.themes/ instead
[22:09] <vansid> Krenair: you can have your Windows 7 partition mounted at boot if you add a line to your "/etc/fstab" file
[22:09] <mrdeb> trism: no it wont. i want it in usr/share/themes it worked before
[22:10] <trism> mrdeb: no idea then, either directory should work in general, but I haven't used obconf in a very long time, sorry
[22:10] <JamezQ> dumnut_: You would download a ssh server, "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" should be enough
[22:10] <mrdeb> i will fix it
[22:10] <vansid> Krenair: the man page "man fstab" will give you the correct syntax to mount your Windows drive
[22:11] <JamezQ> dumnut_: After that, you get the computers local ip, and select connect to server in nautilus. And choose ssh
[22:11] <dumnut_> JamezQ: will try that
[22:13] <JamezQ> dumnut_: The ssh server should start right after the install, so after that just do a "ifconfig" to find the local ip.
[22:15] <dumnut_> JamezQ: will do
[22:18] <mrdeb> i dont know i give up
[22:19] <ClientAlive> that makes 2 of us
[22:21] <ironhoof> Hello, I am installing linux on a computer system for a friend of mine, and he has a LogiTech quickcam camera with the ''cannot set freq 16000 to ep 0x86''  error, and will nearly make his machine crawl with it plugged in until its removed. Is there a patch or solution for this?
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> ironhoof  try cheese, it's a program name
[22:23] <ironhoof> Im familiar with cheese. This is also not just a webcam problem, its a problem with one of the usb drivers it seems. maybe snd-usb-audio
[22:24] <ironhoof> I did a modprobe -r snd-usb-audio and put it back, and it worked.
[22:24] <ironhoof> but it doesnt work everytime
[22:25] <ironhoof> It hasa built in microphone, he doesnt so much car about the webcam itself as much as the microphone
[22:26] <jcodybaker> I recently updated to Ubuntu 12.04 and am having issues with MySQL.  It seems to launch the two instances at once and I get "Can't start server : Bind on unix socket: Address already in use" as well as a lock reports on the innodb log files.    There are no currently running processes.  I couldn't find any bug reports.
[22:29] <jcodybaker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1092298/
[22:32] <ironhoof> Yea thats probably a good idea too: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1092303/
[22:33] <NastyNaz> how similar is the mac terminal to ubuntu? Why do so many people use macs?
[22:33] <HiddenKnowledge> 'Why do so many people use macs?' Lol.
[22:34] <NastyNaz> I don't *get* it. Besides the aesthetics what's so good?
[22:36] <MonkeyDust> NastyNaz  discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:36] <brontosaurusrex> NastyNaz, how can a terminal look like ubuntu?
[22:37] <jellow> I'm trying to run a minecraft server at boot , I have this script in /etc/init.d/ https://raw.github.com/marcuswhybrow/minecraft-server-manager/latest/init/msm , Yet it does not auto start as I hoped. Thanks
[22:38] <jellow> I should add I gave it 755 and ran sudo update-rc.d msm defaults
[22:39] <jcodybaker> jellow: does it work manually? /etc/init.d/msm start
[22:40] <jellow> jcodybaker: yes
[22:41] <Anxi80> I can run java from commandline but when I run a bash script it can't see java. How?
[22:42] <usr13_> jellow: I suppose you could put  /etc/init.d/msm start  in /etc/rc.local
[22:43] <jellow> usr13_: will try that
[22:44] <glebihan> usr13_, wow, that's ugly
[22:44] <usr13_> jcodybaker: Do you already have another mysqld server running?
[22:45] <vadi2> How can I install a 3.5 kernel that is being hindered by a "break" in wireless-crda?
[22:45] <jcodybaker> usr13_: Nope - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1092319/
[22:45] <superuser> is there a way to run 2 dpkg at once?
[22:45] <ikonia> no
[22:47] <species> NastyNaz: you might be confusing a few different principles
[22:47] <escott> Anxi80, you must have defined some java variables in your .bashrc
[22:47] <vadi2> This is what I'm getting: http://pastebin.com/ZEd7Z9SX apt-get -f install does not help, it breaks down as well: http://pastebin.com/icHSjEu2
[22:47] <speakon>   I have just installed my first ever Ubuntu! The first major problem is that my second graphics card is not registering.  I have 2 x Radeon HD 6800's connected with a crossfire attatchment. The triple monitors work fine in Windows 7, but not Ubuntu.  I have followed tutorials to install AMD drivers and still no luck.  Any ideas?  Thank you.
[22:48] <species> NastyNaz: the current Mac OS has its roots in BSD, which is basically unix; ubuntu is a linux distro, and is also basically unix. in these respects, they are similar.
[22:48] <species> NastyNaz: i.e. they are both sort-of-unix
[22:48] <kanliot> speakon did you install amd-cccle?
[22:48] <usr13_> jcodybaker: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1861136
[22:48] <species> NastyNaz: but there are too many differences beyond that to summarise easily unless you have more specific questions
[22:49] <ikonia> species: you are unlikley to get that working
[22:49] <dumnut_> snakes33 and JamesJRH: thank-you for your helps
[22:49] <jcodybaker> usr13_: Wow… i looked all over and didn't see that article.  Thank you
[22:49] <Anxi80> escott, thanks for taking time to help me. I have actually. I will provide the code in a sec
[22:49] <speakon> kanilot I have installed the AMD Catalyst Control Centre
[22:49] <species> ikonia: i think you meant to say that to speakon
[22:49] <ikonia> species: I certainly did, my apologies
[22:50] <species> ikonia: how can I tell that you're using xchat :P
[22:50] <jcodybaker> usr13_: Hrm… I'll investigate that further, but i had already edited my apparmor profile, and disabled it when i first noticed this issue.
[22:50] <ikonia> species: I'm not
[22:50] <species> oh

[22:50] <Anxi80> escott, http://pastebin.com/mn4WaFK4
[22:51] <usr13_> jcodybaker: This is several months ago, but:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.1/+bug/876268
[22:51] <speakon> So there is no way to get 3 monitors running? :(
[22:52] <blubee> hello guys do you mind offering a somewhat new linux user some ubuntu advice
[22:52] <usr13_> jcodybaker: What version of mysql do you have installed?   How did you install it?
[22:52] <usr13_> blubee: yes
[22:52] <blubee> i have eclipse installed, i also use svn to clone a svn trunk
[22:53] <blubee> i import the cloned svn projects into eclipse
[22:53] <blubee> but say i do svn update and get a new update, how can i keep the eclipse workspace up to date w/ the latest pulled svn
[22:53] <usr13_> blubee: Use ,  instead of  Enter
[22:53] <blubee> usr13_ ok
[22:53] <superuser> dose anyone recomend a good dm?
[22:54] <usr13_> dm?
[22:54] <superuser> display manager
[22:54] <superuser> gdm lightdm kdm lxdm
[22:54] <superuser> xdm...
[22:55] <escott> Anxi80, the path bit you could set globably using update-alternatives. the others you need to move to ensure they are in the environment of your script in some fashion
[22:55] <jcodybaker> usr13_: You're exactly right… there was a dpkg merge file in apparmor directory.  I merged it with my existing file, restarted app armor and that that did the trick
[22:55] <usr13_> superuser: If you use KDE, kdm  if you use.... etc. etc.
[22:55] <blubee> any idea how to keep those two projects the same?
[22:55] <NastyNaz> species: will much of my linux knowledge transfer over to using a mac? Or should I just install ubuntu on it?
[22:55] <usr13_> jcodybaker: Awesome!
[22:55] <jcodybaker> usr13_: Any favor place I can donate $10?
[22:56] <vadi2> How can I remove a package that has unmet dependencies? http://pastebin.com/iWeXvDu0
[22:56] <usr13_> NastyNaz: A little... some cli but that's about it.
[22:56] <superuser> usr13_ im looking i use many diffrent desktop enviroments, so what display manager should i chose?
[22:56] <usr13_> jcodybaker: yes
[22:56] <ikonia> vadi2: it won't have installed if it's not got met dependencies
[22:56] <vadi2> Can you look at the paste? It is installed
[22:56] <hector549> blubee: Open the existing cloned directory, don't import.
[22:57] <usr13_> http://saint-annes.org/
[22:57] <MonkeyDust> vadi2  what ikonia says, but try sudo apt-get autoremove
[22:57] <ikonia> vadi2: ah, you're using a PPA that's messed you up
[22:57] <usr13_> jcodybaker: (Button is on right side)
[22:57] <John__K> Ubuntu is hard, can anyone help me?
[22:57] <vadi2> ikonia: yeah
[22:57] <ikonia> vadi2: then you should have paid attention when installing
[22:57] <MonkeyDust> John__K  that's called 'learning'
[22:57] <vadi2> ikonia: skipping that, how do I remove it?
[22:57] <usr13_> jcodybaker: Thanks in advance.
[22:57] <ikonia> vadi2: remove the crda package
[22:57] <blubee> hector549 thanks for the tip, but i just came over from windows and dont quite understand how to do that on ubuntu
[22:57] <superuser> if you think ubuntu is hard you should try slackware, its much easyer..
[22:58] <vadi2> Ahh
[22:58] <SkippersBoss> !ask | John__K
[22:58] <jcodybaker> usr13_: Thank you.  Have a good afternoon.
[22:58] <usr13_> U2
[22:58] <John__K> blah blah blah but there's this problem blah blah blah that won't let me blah blah I need you to be my help bitch.
[22:58] <vadi2> ikonia: I can't http://pastebin.com/J77uyYpf
[22:59] <ikonia> vadi2: remove wireless-crda
[22:59] <ikonia> vadi2: come on, it says what's going on in the output
[22:59] <vadi2> "sudo apt-get remove crda wireless-crda" failed..
[22:59] <usr13_> superuser: Correct
[22:59] <species> NastyNaz: some of it will; any unix stuff you have learned will, but apple have their own proprietary user interface
[23:00] <hector549> blubee: Versus something like VS, eclipse does not operate on a project file.  It just opens a set of directories and runs with it.  Easiest way, if you already have the project cloned, is to do 'ln -s /full/path/to/project/root' while in ~/workspace
[23:00] <ikonia> vadi2: I'm sure it said more than "failed"
[23:00] <speakon> kanilot - installed it and didnt help
[23:00] <vadi2> ikonia: yes, it said linux images depend on it, but it won't be installed
[23:00] <species> NastyNaz: you wont be able to run gnome or other X11 desktops on it without serious work
[23:00] <ikonia> vadi2: ahh so you've updated your kernel too
[23:00] <blubee> hector549 thank you, i will go attempt to do that
[23:00] <vadi2> That's what I'm trying to undo.
[23:01] <species> NastyNaz: although, you can dual boot; my experience has been that its somewhat uncertain to work well
[23:01] <vadi2> Yeah, I got the 3.5 kernel - the computer has a very, very slow HD and supposedly new drivers were to fix it. They didn't
[23:01] <ikonia> vadi2: I would suggest looking at ppa-purge, although I doubt it will work as you've altered quite a lot of the base system
[23:01] <NastyNaz> species: are there any real advantages to keeping the mac  os on it then? Is there any reason for me to try and learn to use it?
[23:01] <vadi2> I didn't add any ppa's, I've only run a script which installed kernel + that wireless.
[23:01] <ikonia> vadi2: I doubt your computer had a slow hard disk
[23:01] <vadi2> ikonia: ...
[23:02] <ikonia> vadi2: the io subsystem hasn't really changed in years
[23:02] <species> NastyNaz: there is not a lot to learn, its very simple
[23:03] <species> some people find it too simple for comfort
[23:03] <species> NastyNaz: but i think this conversation is off topic for an ubuntu channel
[23:03] <brontosaurusrex> NastyNaz, apps
[23:03] <bombay> ciao
[23:03] <superuser> what if i     sudo rm /
[23:03] <ikonia> superuser: you don't do that
[23:03] <ikonia> no-one should use that command
[23:04] <GeekSquid> !danger
[23:04] <species> superuser: you would DIE
[23:04] <MonkeyDust> superuser  a superuser should know what does
[23:04] <MonkeyDust> it*
[23:04] <usr13_> NastyNaz: I dont see much point in it.   I've finally fixed the problem.
[23:07] <superuser> mabie there shy.
[23:07] <ikonia> superuser: please stop messing around, please.
[23:07] <vadi2> dpkg --force-depends --purge on both kernel and wireless-crda, then installed wireless-crda again, and now it's all fine
[23:07] <NastyNaz> species: I like ubuntu so I think I'll stick with it. Only reason I got the mac was because of the resolution so as long as it works with ubuntu I don't see a reason to use OSX.
[23:08] <species> NastyNaz: i dont yet know what you actually *do*
[23:08] <pckchem> It is very nice hardware.... over priced IMO.... but nice.
[23:08] <species> so I cannot really comment
[23:08] <species> pckchem: you get what you pay for; which for some reason is a machine carved out of a solid block of Aluminum
[23:09] <NastyNaz> species: sit around on IRC mostly. Bit of maths programming in C and excel when I have to work.
[23:09] <bluesrph85|afk> some of the hardware you can't find anywhere else, ive never used a better trackpad than on a mac
[23:09] <uskerine> hi, how can i enable xorg listening for other LAN hosts?
[23:09] <uskerine> ubuntu 12.04
[23:10] <MonkeyDust> offtopic: just tested that forbidden command with extra override-options in virtualbox: "rm ... cannot remove ... operation not permitted"
[23:10] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: it's core utils that has protection built in, but there are situations where it won't work
[23:11] <species> NastyNaz: my biggest issue with OS X compared to ubuntu (well, debian based distros in general) is the lack of a suitable package manager
[23:11] <ikonia> species: NastyNaz maybe you could take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:11] <species> yeah, probably
[23:12] <NastyNaz> ikonia: I'm done
[23:12] <magma> hi, how can I put my ubuntu installation on minimal?
[23:12] <magma> I don't want most of the packages
[23:13] <rzaar> How can I tell which MTA I am running on ubuntu?
[23:13] <usr13_> magma: Just start uninstalling stuff.
[23:13] <OneZeroOne> Test, test...
[23:13] <pckchem> magma, easy solution is to pop open software center, flip to installed tab, and start uninstalling anything that looks unnecessary.
[23:13] <OneZeroOne> Oh good. It wasn't letting me talk earlier.
[23:14] <magma> pckchem: thanks. I will do that :P
[23:14] <OneZeroOne> Hokay. So. I'm resurrecting an old desktop machine to play around with web stuff. Installed Ubuntu server, unaware that...well, it doesn't exactly have a GUI.
[23:15] <xjohnthomasx> Can anyone help me get my boot to work?? See http://paste.ubuntu.com/1092360/
[23:15] <pckchem> magma, feel free to come back and ask about anything that looks unfamiliar. You can do some damage there if you're not careful ;)
[23:15] <xjohnthomasx> Everytime I boot it dumps me to a grub cli
[23:15] <NastyNaz> OneZeroOne: lol
[23:15] <xjohnthomasx> But I know it's nearly correct and good
[23:15] <OneZeroOne> Tried burning nice, friendly vanilla Ubuntu to disc, tried booting to that hoping to just install regular Ubuntu instead
[23:15] <usr13_> OneZeroOne: Why would you expect a server to have a GUI?
[23:16] <OneZeroOne> I've never messed with servers before. I wasn't sure what to expect
[23:16] <usr13_> OneZeroOne: Ok, fair enough....
[23:16] <OneZeroOne> It's an OS. As far as I knew, OS's have had GUI's since the 90's. I'll be the first to admit I'm not SUPER-advanced.
[23:16] <pckchem> Haha, lesson one, they don't always have GUI's.
[23:16] <OneZeroOne> So I see.
[23:16] <microm> I cannot get the maven/eclipse plugin to work (m2eclipse), I install it but there is no Wizard to create a maven project. Any ideas?
[23:17] <OneZeroOne> Anyway, now I can't seem to make it boot to my nice, comfortable, regular Ubuntu boot disc.
[23:17] <pckchem> You should be able to stack a GUI on it though, let me hunt for a wiki article I'm pretty sure exists.
[23:17] <usr13_> OneZeroOne: So, how did you do with regular Ubuntu?
[23:17] <OneZeroOne> Oh?
[23:17] <usr13_> OneZeroOne: You got it all installed, right?
[23:18] <OneZeroOne> Nope. I can't seem to boot to the regular Ubuntu disc. Checked BIOS boot sequence and it looks fine, but it's like it's not seeing the optical drive anymore or somethning
[23:18] <NastyNaz> Is there anything cool I can do with an ubuntu server with loads of spare cpu cycles and bandwidth? Besides SETI of course :)
[23:18] <ikonia> NastyNaz: turn it off and save the planet
[23:18] <usr13_> OneZeroOne:  check the disk ... md5
[23:18] <NastyNaz> ikonia: I need it running for webserver/compiling
[23:18] <usr13_> OneZeroOne: md5sum
[23:19] <usr13_> OneZeroOne: Then google it.
[23:19] <OneZeroOne> usr13_: one sec.
[23:19] <ikonia> NastyNaz: right, so don't make it work harder and draw more power
[23:19] <usr13_> OneZeroOne: Google the checksum
[23:19] <na-utusan> OneZeroOne: just boot to the server and then add the GUI
[23:19] <tking> i have noticed this info stuff popping up like 2 times today https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46512205/show.png, i am english, from UK and dont know how to stop te arabic info https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46512205/show.png
[23:19] <na-utusan> install ubuntu-desktop
[23:19] <NastyNaz> ikonia: I don't want to get in to economics, but I pay for the power and also pay for the harm I'm doing to the environment. I don't mind.
[23:20] <usr13_> OneZeroOne: First off, what did you download?  Ubuntu 12.04?
[23:20] <pckchem> OneZeroOne: If you want to just install vanilla ubuntu, sometimes I have better luck with the alternate disk than the livedisk.
[23:20] <xjohnthomasx> I just tried this.. do you think it will work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1092369/
[23:21] <GeekSquid> tking: you need to configure your locale ... /msg ubottu !locale for more info
[23:21] <OneZeroOne> usr13_:  just used the "Get Ubuntu now" link on the site, whichever version that is. I think it's 12.04 though
[23:22] <usr13_> OneZeroOne: checksum?  (show us..)
[23:23] <OneZeroOne> Working on it
[23:23] <GeekSquid> OneZeroOne: you could run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ... that would turn your server into a GUI
[23:24] <usr13_> GeekSquid: I think the server is history.
[23:25] <OneZeroOne> Not getting anything when I run that command. Just sits there.
[23:25] <usr13_> GeekSquid: Well, maybe not... OneZeroOne ?
[23:25] <HiddenKnowledge> Eeh, you don't install ubuntu-desktop on a server O_O
[23:25] <GeekSquid> HiddenKnowledge: you can too
[23:25] <HiddenKnowledge> You can.. But that defeats the purpose..
[23:25] <usr13_> OneZeroOne: It takes a little bit.
[23:26] <OneZeroOne> Okay. Waiting patiently.
[23:26] <GeekSquid> HiddenKnowledge: OneZeroOne doesn't want a CLI
[23:26] <rzaar> Hi, how can I tell which MTA I am running?
[23:26] <OneZeroOne> What's a CLI?
[23:26] <GeekSquid> OneZeroOne: command line interpreter
[23:26] <ikonia> rzaar: ubuntu uses postfix by default
[23:26] <usr13_> OneZeroOne: md5sum ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso  ?
[23:26] <HiddenKnowledge> GeekSquid: Then why would he even install it using the server installation?
[23:27] <rzaar> ikonia: but what if it was running exim, how would I know?
[23:27] <hats> Hi all. I'm having a hell of a time installing restricted nvidia drivers on a xbmcbuntu box, could someone point me toward a good step by step guide? I haven't installed them via ssh before.
[23:27] <HiddenKnowledge> And I would use xubuntu or kubuntu instead of ubuntu then, if it's for a server.
[23:27] <OneZeroOne> HiddenKnowledge: because I'm an idiot (read: n00b) and didn't know that servers don't have GUIs
[23:27] <ikonia> rzaar: you'd have installed exim....so you'd know you'd installed exim
[23:27] <ikonia> rzaar: you'd also see it in the process list, and you'd also see the open socket and the process connected to it
[23:27] <Anxi80> I tried setting update-alternatives for java but it says none are available
[23:27] <blubee> ok guys i created a systemlink from my eclipse workspace linking to the cloned svn trunk, but eclipse package explorer doesn't show any packages. Also if i attempt to import the projects w/o making a local copy, i get an error "Resource 'project name' already exists.
[23:27] <usr13_> Enough about server install, he wants a Desktop System.
[23:27] <HiddenKnowledge> Because the normal ubuntu uses gnome which is pretty bloated for a server
[23:28] <baazigar> hello, i get error when i try sudo apt-get build-dep scribus.<<<<Put some source URIs in sources.list.>>>>>
[23:28] <GeekSquid> HiddenKnowledge: normal ubuntu does not use GNOME ... Unity is the new Window manager .... you can install Gnome if you want
[23:28] <HiddenKnowledge> Ah, true. It's still bloated though.
[23:28] <OneZeroOne> Well, I know I'm about to get laughed out of the room, but the end target is just a Minecraft server to fart around in
[23:28] <HiddenKnowledge> For a server, that is.
[23:29] <Areckx> Has anyone tried using cinelerra?
[23:29] <baazigar> hello, i get error when i try sudo apt-get build-dep scribus.<<<<Put some source URIs in sources.list.>>>>>
[23:29] <Areckx> I have been using a bunch of video editors and they are all AGGRIVATING
[23:29] <OneZeroOne> Beyond "I'd like a Minecraft server and an OS that actually has a graphical interface," I'm pretty much open to whatever suggestions you guys want to throw at me
[23:29] <Areckx> I just want to be able to cut out clips from a video file and reorder them, but every editor I try to use is very annoying when I want to do that
[23:29] <ikonia> OneZeroOne: just install a gui, it's not a problem, whatever desktop you like, install it
[23:30] <Areckx> I'm trying to make an AMV
[23:30] <ikonia> OneZeroOne: simple solution
[23:30] <OneZeroOne> Works for me.
[23:30] <MonkeyDust> Areckx  have you tried openshot?
[23:30] <tking> hello community!
[23:30] <usr13_> OneZeroOne: I would suggest xfce  xubuntu-desktop
[23:30] <Areckx> MonkeyDust::  that one kept crashing
[23:30] <baazigar> hello, i get error when i try sudo apt-get build-dep . Put some source URIs in sources.list. How to solve this error? I cannot solve it.
[23:31] <GeekSquid> OneZeroOne: you might want to look at this http://minecraft.codeemo.com/
[23:31] <usr13_> baazigar: ON what package?
[23:31] <Areckx> MonkeyDust::  and was still very annoying when I just wanted to select two different time periods and cut out a simple clip
[23:31] <baazigar> usr13_, scribus.
[23:31] <HiddenKnowledge> OneZeroOne: If you need any help setting it up, you can pm me at any time :)
[23:31] <OneZeroOne> usr13_ Yeah, I know a little bit about xfce, and that seems to be what everyone recommends when you want the interface to take up as little system resources as possible
[23:32] <baazigar> usr13_, is it package base error?
[23:32] <glebihan> baazigar, in the software sources properties, check "source code" checkbox
[23:32] <SkippersBoss> OneZeroOne, you mentioned old destop. HiddenKnowledge  suggestion might have Some merit regarding the spec of this machine
[23:32] <usr13_> baazigar: Give the exact command you used.
[23:32] <baazigar> sudo apt-get build-dep scribus
[23:32] <Areckx> I am usually very patient with computer programs, but video editing seems to be really annoying. I just want to cut out clips and order them
[23:33] <baazigar> glebihan, where is software sources properties?
[23:33] <glebihan> baazigar, you can access it from the software center
[23:33] <GeekSquid> Areckx: use gopchop to cut them apart, then bring them into the editor... seems to work better for me
[23:33] <usr13_> on the phone...
[23:34] <glebihan> baazigar, or launch the "software-properties-gtk" command
[23:35] <baazigar> glebihan, i checked it, still i am getting this error.???
[23:35] <tking> i have noticed this info stuff popping up like 2 times today https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46512205/show.png, i am english, from UK and dont know how to stop te arabic info https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46512205/show.png
[23:35] <glebihan> baazigar, you need to run "sudo apt-get update"
[23:35] <GeekSquid> !locale > kting
[23:36] <GeekSquid> !locale | tking
[23:36] <blubee> does anyone have any idea how to solve the issue? I cloned my svn truck to a local directory, made a system link from eclipse workspace to that cloned directory. Eclipse package explorer is empty, but if i try and import the projects into eclipse, then i get an error "resource '....' already exists"
[23:37] <baazigar> glebihan, updating, and i get a feeling that it will work this time.
[23:37] <Areckx> GeeksOnHugs::  gopchop that sounds like a good idea
[23:37] <glebihan> baazigar, it will
[23:37] <Areckx> errr GeeksOnHugs  thanks I'll check out gopchop
[23:37] <Areckx> errr GeekSquid
[23:37] <Areckx> BWAH lol
[23:37] <GeekSquid> Areckx: no problem, ur, uh Hugs to you too
[23:38] <Areckx> GeekSquid::  lol and Cinerella looks really complex but looks fully featured, I best learn it now
[23:38] <hats> Would someone mind helping me install nvida drivers on an xbmcbuntu box?
[23:39] <ikonia> hats: there is an xbmc ubuntu channel
[23:39] <ikonia> hats: it's not an official ubuntu release.
[23:39] <pckchem> !nvidia | hats
[23:39] <pckchem> may help you
[23:40] <hats> alright, i will check that out.
[23:41] <MonkeyDust> hats  try #xbmc-pvr
[23:44] <hexadeEXC> niggers!
[23:44] <hats> thanks MonkeyDust
[23:47] <pckchem> !language ?
[23:48] <ag_> exit
[23:48] <ag_> quit
[23:48] <pckchem> !language | hexadeEXC
[23:48] <ag_> close
[23:48] <MonkeyDust> ag_  it's /part
[23:48] <pckchem> that actually made me lol.
[23:49] <Mattias> MonkeyDust: it's /close if you want to close the buffer too :P
[23:49] <HiddenKnowledge> Mattias: Eeh, I think that depends on your client.
[23:49] <Mattias> Might, I use weeChat so...
[23:50] <HiddenKnowledge> Mattias: While /part works across all clients. Atleast, it should.
[23:50] <Mattias> will try it now
[23:50] <Mattias> yeah, it only parted, but did not close my buffer
[23:51] <HiddenKnowledge> Mattias: On Irssi you use /wc to close the buffer
[23:51] <HiddenKnowledge> :P
[23:51] <pckchem> mattias: /buffer clear
[23:51] <Mattias> pckchem: but that only clears the buffer :P
[23:52] <Mattias> /close is the way to go
[23:52] <pckchem> mattias: sorry I joined half way through the ask, thought that was all you wanted.
[23:52] <HiddenKnowledge> Or /quit if you just want to get of the entire server. Lol >_>
[23:52] <HiddenKnowledge> off *
[23:53] <pckchem> mattias: try this: http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_user.en.html
[23:53] <Mattias> pckchem: I was just explaining /part does not close the buffer :P
[23:54] <baazigar> glebihan, it worked , thanks.
[23:54] <glebihan> baazigar, you're welcome
[23:55] <pckchem> mattias: looks like irc.look.part_closes_buffer is what you want in the .conf
[23:56] <Fefefefe> Hey los3rz
[23:56] <Mattias> pckchem: /close is a much more logical command :P
[23:56] <Mattias> close buffer and channel
[23:56] <pckchem> Get a better client ;)
[23:58] <Mattias> weeChat is the best (^^♪
[23:58] <Mattias> kvm is just awesome
[23:58] <bwat47> i just use pidgin
[23:59] <Mattias> to think you could use a virtual machine on a headless server which does not have xorg, and connect to it so easily over the network :)