[06:02] <ed209> cd32fan:  chances are the sagem usb modem will need additional setup once botted. at a guess its not being automagically configured from the live CD. If this was an install it would be much easier to run through. but any changes you make during your liveCD session will be lost at next reboot
[06:03] <ajtraynor> ok, so if i want windows to be default, how do i do that
[06:03] <cd32fan> how do i configure my modem,i tried automatic but it did wasnt recognized
[06:03] <ed209> I beleive the modem is supported to what extend I couldn't tell you unless you provide the model number (which I couldn't tell you off the top of my head) you will need to consult with the hardware compatibility guides online for your particular model
[06:04] <cd32fan> so its possible this modem isnt compatible
[06:04] <sureshot> ed209 does ubuntu support winmodems
[06:04] <ed209> its always possible. on the other hand I'd hazard a guess that if you could find the product/model number you will find a compatibility guide online for various distro's
[06:04] <SurfnKid> has anyone successfully gotten an HP laserjet running on ubuntu
[06:05] <ed209> yup
[06:05] <ed209> got one right here but its on a jetdirect port
[06:05] <cd32fan> i have the modem installation cd,but it was meant to work on xp
[06:05] <ed209> the XP CD will be useless for this instance (ush
[06:05] <SurfnKid> ed209, network port?
[06:06] <SurfnKid> im trying to get a usb hp 3330 running
[06:06] <ed209> yes, through cups
[06:06] <SurfnKid> using hplip right
[06:06] <ed209> oh a 33*** series, they're a bit of a pain. are you on 6.06 dapper?
[06:06] <H3b0R> help i cant get sound in truecombat:elite!!!
[06:06] <SurfnKid> yep
[06:06] <SurfnKid> its listed as compatible with 0.9.5 driver
[06:06] <phanter> hi there, I have problems with a script that should install my lazer printer
[06:07] <phanter> I am not sure where to start with my question without the source of the script... anywabody who would like to help  me with it
[06:07] <ed209> for the 3330 print : - install the default laserjet printer driver under CUPS and use the recommended "laserjet" driver
[06:07] <cd32fan> its a Sagem Fast 808
[06:07] <cd32fan> is it compatible?
[06:07] <ed209> don't use the 3300 postscript or other ones
[06:08] <ed209> Sagem Fast 800 series I think is, but only with 5.10 onwards - dapper should be ok. BRB - just checking archives
[06:08] <SurfnKid> ed209, under cups where would that be
[06:08] <phanter> how can I find out my hardware platform (or is it simply i386 ?)
[06:09] <gnomefreak> phanter: what cpu do you have?
[06:10] <cd32fan> ed209:where can i get the installation files for my modem?
[06:10] <cd32fan> can you provide a link,please
[06:10] <gnomefreak> cd32fan: what type of modem?
[06:10] <phanter> gnomefreak: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz
[06:10] <ed209> CD32:looks like you can compile the SAGEM 800 driver yourself but otherwise an installation of additional modules for your kernel is required http://fast800.tuxfamily.org/pub/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=2
[06:10] <gnomefreak> phanter: 686 is what you want
[06:10] <phanter> oke
[06:10] <ed209> cd32:  eg: you would have to first do an installation then add in the modules later
[06:10] <gnomefreak> i686
[06:11] <ed209> cd32: better link for your modem:     http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=45969
[06:12] <amukanuk> Hello. I connect to my PC through vnc. I am running this through my current session that can also be viewed at home. How would i go about locking my computers access at home while still allowing me to access it remotely?
[06:13] <cd32fan> ed209:is this an easy install ?
[06:13] <cd32fan> the modem parts,i mean
[06:13] <Seapig|wrk> amukanuk,  --- disconnect the keyboard, monitor and mouse
[06:13] <mjr> amukanuk, look into running a separate remotely (only) vnc-viewable Xvnc server. This will require some tweaking on your part.
[06:14] <pike_> amukanuk: couldnt you just ssh into the computer and do like vncserver :02 then from client  vncviewer ipadd:02 ?
[06:14] <pike_> amukanuk: or :whatever
[06:16] <sureshot> phanter is the a celeron
[06:17] <njal> ok I need some help with that damn bcm43xx driver, I have a mac running dapper and lsmod shows the driver is runniong and the networeking window shows the connection is active it's just not connection
[06:18] <SurfnKid> could someone help me set up an HP printer
[06:19] <SurfnKid> the hplip driver is installed ( partially ) and when running hp-setup no comand is found
[06:19] <[H] 3b0R> help i cant get any sound in truecombat:elite!
[06:19] <ahz^> hello, can someone tell me how can i change the name of an directory, by my mystake a changed one dir name in ... and i can't find it pleaes
[06:20] <SurfnKid> !HP
[06:20] <phanter> is anybody who would like to help me with debugging a script?
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about HP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <phanter> please?
[06:20] <SurfnKid> !print
[06:20] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:20] <ahz^> anyone can help me please ?
[06:21] <ahz^> hello, can someone tell me how can i change the name of an directory, by my mystake a changed one dir name in ... and i can't find it please
[06:21] <BigChirv> ahz^, oh
[06:21] <BigChirv> ahz^, open a console
[06:21] <ahz^> BigChirv: yes
[06:21] <BigChirv> ahz^, and write down this
[06:21] <BigChirv> ahz^, mv ... anewname
[06:22] <ahz^> BigChirv "anewname" i put my dir name ?
[06:22] <phanter> ahz^: and the ... is the oldname
[06:22] <BigChirv> ahz^, You cannot see it because the files or directories that start with '.' are hidden entries.
[06:22] <BigChirv> ahz^, yep
[06:23] <ahz^> BigChirv yep i know that dirs starts with "." is hidden
[06:23] <ahz^> thanks a lot
[06:23] <BigChirv> ahz^, yw
[06:23] <BigChirv> :-)
[06:23] <chori> is the any other way to remove everything about a package then "apt-get --purge remove package" and "dpkg --purge package"?
[06:23] <phanter> oke. I try to install a samsung printer. It used to work, but now the install script gives me strange errors. I am not sure why, but maybe somebody would like to look at it with me?
[06:24] <chori> becouse I'm have problem with a installation of pure-ftpd
[06:24] <BigChirv> chori, yep, sudo aptitude --purge remove package :-D
[06:24] <chori> BigChirv: :)
[06:24] <chori> BigChirv: I'm guesing it does the same?
[06:24] <BigChirv> chori, it performs sometimes better than apt-get
[06:24] <phanter> BigChirv: Do all these programs not jsut rely on dpkg ???
[06:25] <BigChirv> phanter, yep
[06:25] <BigChirv> phanter, But they have algorithms to solve dependencies between packages
[06:25] <chori> BigChirv: so dpkg --purge pure-ftpd should be the best?
[06:25] <chori> BigChirv: becouse when I try to reinstall it it doesn't create /etc/pure-ftpd
[06:25] <BigChirv> chori, use aptitude instead of dpkg.
[06:26] <chori> BigChirv: ok
[06:26] <phanter> oke, in the script it has variables like: $HARDWARE_PLATFORM. I cannot find where they fill this variable, or is it a system variable ?
[06:27] <chori> lets se if it works better to install using aptitude
[06:27] <chori> no, still get the same errors :(
[06:27] <BigChirv> phanter, Maybe that script is sourced by other one and that variable is defined in that script.
[06:28] <chori> for some strange reason the install doesn't create /etc/pure-ftpd
[06:28] <phanter> BigChirv: I do not understand the part "sourced by other one"
[06:28] <BigChirv> chori, that  is not exactly a error. :-)
[06:28] <BigChirv> chori, Try to create it by yourself, using any example you find on Google
[06:28] <chori> BigChirv: it becomes an error when the install tries to start pure-ftpd and cant find /etc/pure-ftpd/conf
[06:29] <BigChirv> phanter, A script being called by another "parent" script
[06:29] <chori> I have some backups of my old install
[06:29] <chori> can use thet
[06:29] <chori> *that
[06:29] <BigChirv> chori, Good
[06:29] <phanter> Well, the script is called derectly by me :)
[06:29] <BigChirv> Oh
[06:29] <BigChirv> :-P
[06:29] <phanter> but it is not a system wide var then?
[06:30] <BigChirv> phanter, echoing it does'nt return any value so I would say that it is not a system variable.
[06:30] <cute_bettong> ok can someone tell me why i cannot send or receve files through gaim from windows users? i do have a router is there something im missing?
[06:31] <J-K> yow
[06:31] <J-K> what version comes with xgl??
[06:31] <XplOzIon> cute_bettong, maybe incoming port is blocked by router
[06:31] <phanter> cute_bettong: my experience is that sending and receiving is very slow, but it should work
[06:32] <J-K> i have 6.6 gnome is pretty good but i saw xgl on gootube... i want thatt!
[06:32] <chori> ok, and what do I need to solve the errors about tls?
[06:32] <cute_bettong> ok what ports does it use?
[06:33] <crynosphere> is there anyone who can help me wit linux
[06:33] <cute_bettong> most of us here :3
[06:33] <chori> crynosphere: with what?
[06:33] <cute_bettong> whatcha need?
[06:33] <BigChirv> lol for free?
[06:33] <BigChirv> x-D
[06:33] <cute_bettong> and what ports does game use
[06:33] <cute_bettong> gaim i mean
[06:33] <crynosphere> cool
[06:34] <cd32fan> can anyone provide a link to the modem sagem fast modules,please
[06:34] <crynosphere> i need help i got ubuntu on pc pro mag and it says i need to burn it to disk but its not a iso its a zip file and if i burmn wast in the file to disk it does not boot from that disk
[06:35] <bakert> cute_bettong,    1.  443 -> MSN (ssl)
[06:35] <bakert>    2. 1863 -> MSN
[06:35] <bakert>    3. 5050 -> Yahoo
[06:35] <bakert>    4. 5190 -> AIM/ICQ
[06:35] <bakert>    5. 5222 -> Jabber (including Google Talk)
[06:35] <bakert>    6. 6667 -> IRC
[06:35] <phanter> crynosphere: and what is in the zip file ?
[06:35] <trevXOR> Hi how do I uninstall a program that I installed manually through the source code? i tried dpkg -r, but I keep getting this: "dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove acroread, only the config
[06:35] <trevXOR>  files of which are on the system.  Use --purge to remove them too.
[06:35] <trevXOR> " which I don't understand
[06:35] <chori> crynosphere: no idea, why don't you just download it?
[06:35] <XplOzIon> does anyone has experience with pure-ftpd im having some problems that i cant fix. Thanks if you can help me
[06:35] <crynosphere> its like a bunch of folders
[06:35] <crynosphere> and files
[06:35] <crynosphere> not 1 iso
[06:35] <chori> XplOzIon: Me too :D
[06:35] <phanter> crynosphere: so why do you not download the iso file ?
[06:35] <chori> XplOzIon: what problem do you have?
[06:35] <BigChirv> trevXOR, Just delete its files and direcroties. Be careful. :-)
[06:36] <crynosphere> i dont have enough bandwidth
[06:36] <XplOzIon> chori: well i can login using SSL for some reason it wont let me, but i do can login with TLS protocol
[06:36] <cute_bettong> bakert those udp or tcp?
[06:36] <phanter> crynosphere: well then it will be a bit more complecated :)
[06:36] <crynosphere> phanter i can give u a screenshot
[06:37] <phanter> crynosphere: not needed. how dit you get this zip file?
[06:37] <chori> XplOzIon: ok, cant help you. Haven't got ssl/tls to work. How did you get that to work?
[06:38] <Eidolos> I'm having trouble with my sound. It's playing at like 75% speed (very disorienting for music..). I've tried switching my player (happens in amaroK and the play utility, even in Firefox) and I've tried switching amaroK's sound engine from alsa to oss to esd all to no avail.
[06:38] <crynosphere> i got it of the pc pro mag
[06:38] <trevXOR> BigChirv: Cheers!
[06:38] <brenlae> anybody fancy James Blunt?
[06:38] <brenlae> great singer, i have his album, Back to Bedlum
[06:38] <XplOzIon> chori: i configure it this way "./configure --with-everything --with-paranoidmsg --with-virtualchroot --with-tls --with-largefile --with-mysql"
[06:38] <chori> XplOzIon: ok, you didn't use apt to install it?
[06:39] <XplOzIon> no
[06:39] <XplOzIon> chori: no i used source :P
[06:39] <chori> XplOzIon: did you add anything to the config files to get it working?
[06:39] <chori> XplOzIon: ok, isn't it the latest version in "universe"?
[06:39] <crynosphere> do u want the screenie phanter
[06:39] <Alakazamz0r> this is the bomb shit: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8364765888913844739&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en
[06:39] <XplOzIon> chori: no i didnt add anothyng, it depends how to start it my friend
[06:40] <phanter> crynosphere: well, I don't think that will be very usefull, but where did you get the zip file from?
[06:40] <cd32fan> how do i remove the older modules for the modem?
[06:40] <MagicFab> where should / can I ask about dvgrab ? I can't capture live video without the camera being in record mode (which wears heads) and if I do It without a tape, the camera shutsdown automatically after ~10 min
[06:40] <chori> XplOzIon: yes I know, but you can add things to the config dir instead
[06:40] <crynosphere> i got it from the pc pro mag dvd its on the dvd but it says burn iso but it aint a iso
[06:40] <Justy-> hello
[06:40] <cd32fan> how do i summon the comand prompt on the ubuntu desktop?
[06:41] <CarlFK> cd32fan: apps, Accesories, Terminal
[06:41] <phanter> crynosphere: oke send me a screenie
[06:41] <XplOzIon> chori: i didnt add anything, just configured it like i told you, and to have TLS/SSL working you need to start it using -Y #
[06:41] <cd32fan> thanks
[06:41] <crynosphere> it sending can u see it
[06:41] <phanter> no, you cannot send it over irc
[06:41] <CarlFK> what is the lightest BT client that will let me pick a file from a multi file torrent?
[06:42] <cd32fan> how do i remove older modem modules,where are they located?
[06:42] <chori> XplOzIon: ok
[06:42] <crynosphere> do u have skype
[06:42] <Justy-> question: i have installed NetworkManager and accidently i typed in a password when it prompted me.. i just want to disable that password that it asks me everytime connecting to a network =(
[06:42] <phanter> yes, but I prefer a dumb website
[06:42] <chori> XplOzIon: becouse I use the config-directory, thinks it's easier
[06:42] <crynosphere> plz can we use skype
[06:42] <crynosphere> my username is "sean_sylvia"
[06:42] <CarlFK> crynosphere: skype is crap - you should not encourage others to use it
[06:43] <phanter> crynosphere: I prefer not to
[06:43] <jokoon> Hello, I need help : I recently installed ubuntu and I don't have internet on it. the connection requires a login/pass and I successfuly configured it on windows without installed anything. (details of on how I did it : http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddt7pq6_10chwgtw )
[06:43] <crynosphere> ok
[06:43] <crynosphere> wat can i use
[06:43] <phanter> CarlFK: where can somebody dumb screenshots again???
[06:43] <CarlFK> crynosphere: check out ... Ekigina - it was installed with Dapper - never used it, but if it is part of the base install...
[06:43] <axeeOo> hi, im trying to get java working. When I type "java version" in terminal I get this error: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: version
[06:43] <axeeOo> any idea why?
[06:43] <CarlFK> phanter: um... one of the paste sites... leme look
[06:44] <jamx> axeeOo: did u type java version or java --version?
[06:44] <XplOzIon> chori: what you mean using the configuration folder??
[06:44] <crynosphere> i dont have dapper on my system
[06:44] <chori> XplOzIon: Instead of starting it with flags you can add files with the values
[06:44] <Justy-> Hello! my question: I have installed NetworkManager and accidentlyIi typed in a password when it prompted me.. I just want to disable that password that it asks me everytime connecting to a network =(
[06:44] <phanter> crynosphere: that is what we are working on isn't it :)
[06:44] <crynosphere> yip
[06:45] <XplOzIon> chori: oh yeah thats right
[06:45] <AbortD> anyone know why flash is all laggy in ubuntu?
[06:45] <chori> XplOzIon: thinks it easier
[06:45] <phanter> grrr. cannot remember the dumb/paste websites. anybody who can help me out ?
[06:45] <IcemanV9> all of sudden, special keys for z60m sound (mute, down, up buttons) disappeared today. all i could remember was that i installed htop last night. i would like to have special keys back the way it was. arrgh.
[06:45] <georgy> ! pastebin
[06:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:46] <XplOzIon> chori: yeah, but since my server doesnt ever restart or reboot :P i wish i could fix this SSL problem, and FXP transfer speed
[06:46] <axeeOo> jamx, i typed "java version"
[06:46] <chori> XplOzIon: :D
[06:46] <phanter> georgy: is there such a service for screenshots as well ?
[06:46] <chori> XplOzIon: sorry, but I cant help you
[06:47] <jamx> axeeOo: then try --version :)
[06:47] <axeeOo> jamx: alex@alex-desktop:~$ java --version
[06:47] <axeeOo> Unrecognized option: --version
[06:47] <axeeOo> Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[06:47] <georgy> phanter : don't know
[06:47] <truiu> axeeOo: use java -version
[06:47] <Garbaek> How do I modify mysql settings so its not creating "Created_tmp_disk_tables"
[06:47] <Justy-> Hello! my question: I have installed NetworkManager and accidently, I typed in a password when it prompted me.. I just want to disable that password that it asks me everytime connecting to a network =(
[06:48] <JosefK> Justy-: that's gnome-keyring, right?
[06:48] <CarlFK> phanter: i just checked the 4 or so I use - no luck -
[06:48] <phanter> crynosphere: oke, it will get more difficult then...
[06:48] <Justy-> JosefK, i dont know
[06:48] <JosefK> Justy-: there's the wireless key, and there's gnome-keyring that stores the saved wireless-key
[06:48] <crynosphere> i have it on a image site (WELL I BUSY PUTTING IT ON ONE NOW
[06:48] <crynosphere> )
[06:48] <JosefK> Justy-: you can 'apt-get install gnome-keyring-manager' to play around with your saved passwords
[06:49] <axeeOo> jamx or truiu, thanks, now when i type "javac Classname.java" it compiles fine, but when I type "java classname.class" I get the exception in thread main error
[06:49] <phanter> crynosphere: oke perfect :)
[06:49] <JosefK> Justy-: deleting the stored password using gnome-keyring-manager should have the desired effect
[06:49] <crynosphere> phanter plz join #helpme
[06:49] <axeeOo> It includes no libs, its a simple hello world app
[06:49] <truiu> axeeOo: just java classname
[06:49] <Justy-> JosefK, thanks =)
[06:49] <axeeOo> truiu, I am enlightened. Thanks
[06:49] <JosefK> Justy-: np's :)
[06:51] <Justy-> JosefK, ops.. I think it shows only the passwords for WEP and WPA
[06:51] <SuperMiguel> hwo can i change my computer name?
[06:51] <chori> Subhuman: /etc/hostname
[06:51] <JosefK> Justy-: indeed, you can delete the entire keyring if you want
[06:51] <Justy-> JosefK, but i need to delete the nm-applet 's key
[06:52] <Justy-> JosefK, i hope i could make myself understandable
[06:52] <JosefK> Justy-: gnome-keyring stores nm-applet's key
[06:52] <JosefK> Justy-: hehe, I think I get it - the nm-applet key is stored in gnome-keyring, when you login it's gnome-keyring asking you for the keyring password
[06:52] <SuperMiguel> how can i change my computer name?
[06:53] <Subhuman> chori, ?
[06:53] <Subhuman> i didnt ask a question.
[06:53] <Justy-> JosefK, yes i think that one is correct
[06:53] <chori> Subhuman: sorry?
[06:53] <chori> Subhuman: ah...sorry :D
[06:53] <Subhuman> :)
[06:53] <JosefK> Justy-: I'm not sure if you can setup a keyring without a password, I guess you could delete the entire keyring, logout/login again and try?
[06:53] <chori> SuperMiguel: /etc/hostname
[06:54] <hardkaare> Hi, is there any of the rhythmbox or Banshee that can download art/cover pictures by itself?
[06:54] <Justy-> JosefK, there are 2 keyrings here, one for a wireless network called "asus_router" and one called "benq"
[06:54] <Justy-> JosefK, do you want me to delete both?
[06:54] <gortiz> someone could help me with xgl
[06:55] <JosefK> Justy-: those are both keys :) the keyring is what they're stored in
[06:55] <pike_> !xgl > gortiz
[06:55] <Garbaek> !xgl > Garbaek
[06:55] <Garbaek> hmm
[06:55] <Justy-> JosefK, ewww hang on
[06:55] <gortiz> i have installed compiz & xgl
[06:55] <gortiz> but i don't know how to set them up
[06:55] <cd32fan> thanks for the help ;)
[06:56] <JosefK> Justy-: that may well be the 'default' keyring
[06:56] <JosefK> Justy-: in which case, see if you can change/remove the password from within gnome-keyring-manager :/
[06:58] <Justy-> JosefK, brb
[06:58] <JosefK> Justy-: rgr
[06:59] <boink> if you want to use smbfs, you need to lsmod the smbfs module?
[06:59] <boink> I can't mount any samba/windows shares onto mybox
[06:59] <kmaynard> just isntall it
[06:59] <kmaynard> install
[06:59] <boink> I've installed smbfs already
[06:59] <Miles> Hi there
[06:59] <poncho1> !postfix
[06:59] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[06:59] <JosefK> boink: it'll be loaded automatically, as needed
[07:00] <pike_> boink: lsmod just lists modules.  modprobe would be what you wanted if lsmod did not show it already
[07:00] <boink> damm .. I'll I get is "Access denied"
[07:00] <Miles> !xgl
[07:00] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:00] <j-j> hey all im quite new to linux and need help is there possibly anyone who can help me set up my wireless network  i have downloaded madWifi i cant work out how to install it and need a bit of help from here on please
[07:00] <xueh> i'm using 6.06 dapper, with als1.0.13rc3, but still no sound, does any one know is there a but here for my sound card hda-intel ICH7
[07:01] <jadacyrus>  If I install a kernel.org kernel on UBuntu, will it break?
[07:01] <SeanTater> !wifi > j-j
[07:01] <gilesw> try out the network-manage j-j
[07:01] <kmaynard> boink, you may want to try #samba ... smart people in there
[07:01] <JohnFlux_> what's the ubuntu dev chat room please?
[07:01] <boink> you're smart too
[07:01] <boink> :)
[07:01] <kmaynard> !wireless > j-j
[07:01] <boink> odd .. you said it should have automagically loaded the mod smbfs, but it didn't
[07:01] <gilesw> what cd/dvd burning app do you guys recommend?
[07:01] <pike_> jadacyrus: you can boot whatever kernel you want if it doesnt work just boot the old one np
[07:02] <SeanTater> JohnFlux_: #ubuntu-devel
[07:02] <jadacyrus> pike_: okay, how do I go abotu safely installing the kernel.org kernel?
[07:02] <JosefK> jadacyrus: you don't, it isn't safe, it may/may-not work
[07:02] <JosefK> jadacyrus: on dapper you stand little chance, edgy is more optimistic
[07:02] <jadacyrus> im on edgy
[07:03] <Justy-> JosefK, back
[07:03] <jadacyrus> The only reason im sayin this is the nvidia people told me to do it because their drivers keep crashing my system
[07:03] <Justy-> JosefK, http://justyy.by.ru/1.png
[07:03] <JosefK> jadacyrus: you can use make-kpkg to build the kernel into .deb's, so it's fairly easy to remove - plenty of stuff on google about building a kernel for Debian/Ubuntu
[07:03] <bieb_work> I am trying to load Ubuntu on a system with a gigabyte GA-K8U-939, I have 2 80gb HDD in RAID1, but it looks like Ubuntu is not seeing the RAID config...
[07:03] <SeanTater> jadacyrus: are you using the i386 it i686 kernel?
[07:03] <jadacyrus> i686 (generic)
[07:03] <JosefK> Justy-: that's asking you for the keyring password :)
[07:03] <SeanTater> jadacyrus: I had a few problems with i686 + nvidia
[07:03] <xabaras> ragazzi xgl con xfce  partito
[07:04] <xabaras> ma come faccio a far partire beryl con xgl
[07:04] <SeanTater> jadacyrus: it maybe a good idea to at least try i386 before you break your system
[07:04] <jadacyrus> ive tried i386
[07:04] <jadacyrus> same problem
[07:04] <jadacyrus> Im on a core duo system
[07:04] <SeanTater> jadacyrus: okay then -- enjoy compiling
[07:04] <Justy-> JosefK, It says in bold: Please enter password to open key of default keyring :s
[07:04] <jadacyrus> so im using an SMP kernel currently
[07:05] <ddoid> can ne1 give me workin repositories ? universal
[07:05] <JosefK> Justy-: looks like it may well ask you that anyway even if there isn't a password :/
[07:05] <Justy-> JosefK, and continues: 'nm-applet' wants to reach default keyring but keyring is locked
[07:05] <profoX`> so...
[07:05] <jadacyrus> bleh, i dont feel like compiling a kernel right now. i just woke up heh. Ill just wait till edgy gets better
[07:05] <profoX`> why can't I grab the drivers for 2 different graphic cards
[07:05] <profoX`> from apt-get ?
[07:05] <SeanTater> ddoid: say !repositories
[07:05] <ddoid> thanx
[07:06] <ddoid> !repositories
[07:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:06] <kmaynard> !video
[07:06] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[07:06] <Justy-> JosefK, bah, at least that is better =/ I am just gonna hit enter and go on ...
[07:06] <kmaynard> !nvidia
[07:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:06] <kmaynard> !nvidia > profoX`
[07:06] <profoX`> kmaynard: eeuh no
[07:06] <profoX`> kmaynard: I want to install the fglrx AND nvidia driver
[07:06] <profoX`> kmaynard: i have 2 graphics cards
[07:06] <Jay__> hi all
[07:07] <JosefK> Justy-: heh :/ I don't think you'll be able to stop network-manager doing that, I have the same problem - just shrugged and accepted it after a while
[07:07] <Jay__> i just installed ubuntu and my comp works 100% faster!
[07:07] <profoX`> but apt-get says fglrx + nvidia conflicts
[07:07] <SeanTater> kmaynard: use /msg
[07:07] <boink> that's good news, Jay
[07:07] <profoX`> guess someone didnt take in account that you could have 2 different graphic cards
[07:07] <profoX`> in 1 machine
[07:07] <profoX`> so i have to compile 1 manually and hope that works without interfering the other driver
[07:07] <kmaynard> gl
[07:08] <Justy-> JosefK, you are patient maybe... but i am not =(
[07:08] <ddoid> !repositories
[07:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:08] <jadacyrus> profoX: yeah i went through that crap to try to get my dual head working, i just ended up ripping out the ATI and getting a new nvidia card that has an extra DVI out
[07:08] <JosefK> Justy-: heh :P in the end it's a feature of the keyring manager, it's what I'd expect if I was using it to store other keys
[07:08] <LjL> profoX`: well FYI and FWIW, in edgy i don't seem to see a conflict between the two drivers
[07:08] <profoX`> LjL: well using dapper.. edgy is not stable yet
[07:09] <SeanTater> Jay__: good!
[07:09] <Justy-> JosefK, also i am curious to solve that problem :p
[07:09] <LjL> profoX`: as i said, fwiw
[07:09] <profoX`> LjL: so xorg-driver-fglrx doesnt conflict with xorg-driver-nvidia (or how it is called)
[07:09] <profoX`> hm thats good news
[07:09] <worzel> when will edgy come out?
[07:09] <gilesw> end of the month
[07:09] <profoX`> LjL: whats that site that lists all those acronyms like fwiw :)
[07:09] <SeanTater> !schedule > worzel
[07:09] <Lane> What repository could I use to get dsniff for Ubuntu Server?
[07:10] <gnomefreak> worzel: ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:10] <Justy-> gilesw, will we be able to updgrade dapper to edgy thru apt ?
[07:10] <xav> I hope it comes out when it's ready
[07:10] <SeanTater> Lane: I'd guess universe
[07:10] <profoX`> Justy-: yes..
[07:10] <gilesw> sure
[07:10] <xav> and not before
[07:10] <ajtraynor> lads, i need help, i jut installed ubuntu, and it wont connect to my wireless network, what may be the problem
[07:10] <Justy-> profoX`, gilesw, I LOVE UBUNTU!
[07:10] <gnomefreak> Justy-: yes and please take all edgy questions to #ubuntu+1
[07:10] <gilesw> heh
[07:10] <javiolo> what version should I install for a intel core duo 2 ?
[07:10] <AbortD> screw updating im doing a fresh install :/
[07:10] <SeanTater> Lane: Yep, it's in universe
[07:10] <Justy-> gnomefreak, awf sorry that was just a little question
[07:10] <BigChirv> javiolo, Intel version
[07:10] <SeanTater> Justy-: Good!
[07:10] <profoX`> as long as you have your /home and your list of packages, I prefer fresh installs too
[07:10] <gilesw> you should try out the aiglx effects justy
[07:11] <AbortD> my luck usually when i update things get screwy
[07:11] <javiolo> birchirv its 64bits
[07:11] <ddoid> it says failed to each repository... why? i have my network set up ok
[07:11] <LjL> profoX`: ah no, actually i only checked the "nvidia-glx" package, which doesn't say it conflicts with any fglrx package. the packages with names beginning with "fglrx-*" on the other hand seem to have some problems -- i.e. they don't show up with "show". and "xorg-driver-fglrx" does list a conflit with nvidia-glx
[07:11] <gilesw> i'm just trying to work out what apps to use
[07:11] <LjL> profoX`: i don't know off hand, but fwiw = for what is worth, and fyi = for your information
[07:11] <ajtraynor> im setting up my wireless network and it wont work
[07:11] <gnomefreak> Justy-: little or not but with 800+ users one little question can become a landslide of questions
[07:11] <gilesw> amaroks quite cool
[07:11] <profoX`> LjL: i knew fyi :)
[07:11] <ajtraynor> and it doesnt give any reason why
[07:12] <profoX`> LjL: sigh.. guess i'll post a bug report
[07:12] <BigChirv> ajtraynor, Maybe your WiFi card is not supported.
[07:12] <ajtraynor> i just open firefoxand nothing appears
[07:12] <gilesw> ajtraynor:  try network-manager package
[07:12] <ajtraynor> it is becuse i did it before
[07:12] <ajtraynor> whats the network manager package
[07:12] <MaKaTiGuY> hi guys
[07:12] <MaKaTiGuY> heed some help
[07:12] <gilesw> it's just a gui for network settings
[07:13] <gilesw> good though
[07:13] <Lane> SeanTater, thanks
[07:13] <BigChirv> ajtraynor, A program that lets you configure your network interfaces from GNOME
[07:13] <SuperMiguel> how can i change my default browser on KDE to firefox?
[07:13] <Lane> got it
[07:13] <ajtraynor> ok, how do i access it
[07:13] <LjL> profoX`: out of curiosity -- how can you have two modern cards in one computer? pci-e?
[07:13] <MaKaTiGuY> how can i transfer my partiton drive which is located in the /temp folder
[07:13] <BigChirv> ajtraynor, Install it with synaptics
[07:13] <javiolo> what version should I install for a intel core duo 2, its 64bits
[07:13] <profoX`> LjL: actually, my friend is having the problem :)
[07:13] <MaKaTiGuY> "/tmp/disks-conf-hda6"
[07:14] <profoX`> LjL: and why can't you have 2 cards?
[07:14] <ajtraynor> im totally new to this
[07:14] <profoX`> LjL: be it AGP or PCI-X
[07:14] <LjL> SuperMiguel: System Settings / Default programs
[07:14] <ajtraynor> whats synaptics
[07:14] <gilesw> the package manager
[07:14] <boink> the graphical package manager
[07:14] <LjL> profoX`: well, because i've only ever seen motherboards with one AGP slot. PCI-Express is just a technology i really don't know much about, so i asked
[07:14] <ajtraynor> where do i fnd the packet manager
[07:15] <gilesw> top left menus
[07:15] <pike_> javiolo: i would instal the 386 version and just apt-get a 686 kernel with smp support.  no real reason to go with 64
[07:15] <boink> System -> Administration -> Syna
[07:15] <ajtraynor> ok, gotta go
[07:15] <ajtraynor> thans
[07:15] <BigChirv> ajtraynor, Eh a package manager. Click on the Applications menu, then "Add and remove soft" (at the end of the menu)
[07:15] <BigChirv> Uh
[07:15] <SuperMiguel> LjL: where?
[07:15] <profoX`> LjL: oh really? i don't know alot about motherboards.. I thought they had more AGP slots... I'll ask the guy next time I talk to him
[07:15] <LjL> SuperMiguel: in the K menu
[07:15] <boink> ooops then
[07:15] <javiolo> pike_ so no need to 64bits ?
[07:15] <boink> I just use apt-get ... old fashioned way, I know
[07:15] <ddoid> how to fix broken repositories? i can ping and surf but cant apt-get update ? why?
[07:16] <pike_> javiolo: there will be no performace increase and you will probably run into problems if you do.  but you could tryit
[07:16] <MaKaTiGuY> how can i transfer my partiton drive which is located in the /temp folder
[07:16] <profoX`> javiolo: 64bits version of ubuntu? better not use it if you don't know what you're doing
[07:16] <profoX`> 32bits has better compatibility with drivers nd proprietary software
[07:16] <gilesw> i tried 64bit
[07:16] <SuperMiguel> LjL: there is no system setings
[07:16] <MaKaTiGuY> "/tmp/disks-conf-hda6"
[07:16] <gilesw> gave up in the end
[07:16] <profoX`> and 64bits doesnt give you much advantage..
[07:16] <gilesw> just not worth the hastle
[07:16] <SuperMiguel> LjL: you says on the kcontrol?
[07:16] <profoX`> maybe a LITTLE speed bump..
[07:16] <profoX`> but it needs more RAM too..
[07:16] <gilesw> none of the apps had 64bit compiles
[07:16] <LjL> SuperMiguel: no, i say in the K menu. the menu that lists all your applications.
[07:16] <javiolo> profox ok why ?
[07:17] <LjL> SuperMiguel: though you can also find it in KControl for that matter, under "KDE components"
[07:17] <QuoVadis> Hi!
[07:18] <profoX`> javiolo: well.. 32bits ubuntu will run fine on your 64bit machine, and 64bit machines don't really perform twice as good, maybe they perform a _little_ bit better in some areas, but not much! and 64bit distributions also require more RAM.. it's not worth the hassle.. because alot of applications don't work in 64bit without messing around alot, like Flash player, w32codecs, other proprietary stuff like Skype.. etc...
[07:18] <sureshot> hey all wich is the better kernal the 386 or the 686 and what is the difference
[07:18] <bluszcz> hi, where i can find mkinitrd in dapper?
[07:18] <profoX`> javiolo: windows 64bit has the same problem by the way
[07:19] <eracc> Hi, sureshot. :-)
[07:19] <profoX`> can i see the conflicting packages for 1 package with apt-cache (or with something else) ?
[07:19] <sureshot> hi eracc how are you
[07:19] <sureshot> eracc did you get my email
[07:19] <profoX`> sureshot: depends on your processor
[07:19] <MrObvious> Hello.
[07:19] <LjL> profoX`: "apt-cache show packagename"
[07:20] <sureshot> i have a m65 intel p4 at 2gh
[07:20] <eracc> sureshot, about the quad processor boards I quoted you? Yes. If you sent another then, no.
[07:20] <MrObvious> Can someone mention an app that allows me to connect to Windows Terminal Services?
[07:20] <profoX`> 686 kernel is optimized for pentium 2 and higher I think.. difference is small though
[07:20] <georgeb> MrObvious: krdc
[07:20] <hegemon> I need to reconfigure my network interface. is there a commad to run the network configuration as is done during installation?
[07:20] <MrObvious> georgeb: Gracias :)
[07:20] <georgeb> MrObvious: np
[07:20] <sureshot> eracc i just cant afford at the moment is all
[07:20] <profoX`> sureshot: 686 will probably perform a little better, install linux-686
[07:20] <sureshot> i want to do that as soon as i get the money
[07:20] <bluszcz> hi, where i can find mkinitrd in dapper?
[07:20] <eracc> sureshot, yeah, those quad boards are pricey. :-)
[07:20] <profoX`> sureshot: but not that much..
[07:21] <TheGateKeeper> what's the apt-get command for listing the updates?
[07:21] <bluszcz> initrd-toolls
[07:21] <bluszcz> thanks guys
[07:21] <sureshot> profoX please explain for my knowlege
[07:21] <profoX`> LjL: oh really.. i tried that, and I grepped "conflict" but couldnt see it, maybe its 'Conflict" with a capital.. hmm..
[07:21] <LjL> profoX`: yeah it is
[07:21] <profoX`> LjL: yep.. indeed
[07:21] <profoX`> stupid me :)
[07:21] <profoX`> well you're right ..
[07:22] <profoX`> guess i'll post a bug about it: Conflicts: fglrx-driver, xfree86-driver-fglrx, nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy
[07:22] <georgeb> profoX`: try grep -i conflict for case insensitive match
[07:22] <profoX`> georgeb: thanks for the hint
[07:22] <sureshot> eracc what is the syntax to install the 686 kernel
[07:22] <LjL> profoX`: well, before posting a bug, i'd check that they actually don't conflict -- maybe there's some reason why you actually *can't* have both installed
[07:22] <bieb_work> I am trying to load Ubuntu on a system with a gigabyte GA-K8U-939, I have 2 80gb HDD in RAID1, but it looks like Ubuntu is not seeing the RAID config...Anyone have an idea of what to check first?
[07:23] <MaKaTiGuY> can someone help me
[07:23] <eracc> sureshot, I don't know. I've not done that myself.
[07:23] <LjL> profoX`: (well, or running concurrently at least)
[07:23] <AvatarX> Finally I am running ATI + 3D + Dapper
[07:23] <profoX`> LjL: hmm yea.. does seem odd to me..
[07:23] <profoX`> LjL: but..
[07:23] <AvatarX> Finally I am running ATI + 3D + Edgy
[07:23] <sureshot> can someone tell me the syntax for the command to install the 686 kernel
[07:23] <profoX`> LjL: well.. i'll tell my friend to compile and try fglrx..
[07:23] <LjL> profoX`: just a hypothesis
[07:23] <profoX`> instead of installing it through apt-get..
[07:23] <profoX`> hope he knows how :)
[07:23] <LjL> profoX`: well, perhaps you can force apt-get if you try hard enough...
[07:23] <ephemeros> yo
[07:24] <informatica_> hola
[07:24] <jhasse> Why can't i find the "csm" package with synaptic?
[07:24] <LjL> profoX`: or dpkg even, since apt-get doesn't have many forceful options
[07:24] <georgeb> jhasse: probably is not in the repos
[07:24] <profoX`> LjL: yea probably, something like --force-install probably..
[07:24] <profoX`> but i dont know if that works for conflicts
[07:25] <LjL> profoX`: yeah, there's a "--force-conflicts"
[07:25] <jhasse> georgeb,  do you know where i can get a repos with this package in it?
[07:25] <bless> what key is the "return" key in the console?
[07:25] <georgeb> jhasse: I think is in one of this repos: deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main   or   deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[07:25] <profoX`> LjL: ok..
[07:25] <LjL> profoX`: conflicts: Install, even if it conflicts with another package. This is dangerous, for it will usually cause overwriting of some files.
[07:25] <georgeb> bless: the enter :)
[07:25] <profoX`> LjL: but isnt that dangerous :) since it conflicts..
[07:25] <profoX`> well
[07:25] <profoX`> I can imagine
[07:25] <profoX`> that they both change some GL file
[07:25] <sureshot> can someone tell me the syntax for the command to install the 686 kernel
[07:25] <profoX`> and thats why they could conflict
[07:25] <LjL> profoX`: no more dangerous than compiling and sticking files all around, i'd imagine
[07:25] <profoX`> LjL: very true..
[07:26] <Dr_willis> !info kernel-686
[07:26] <ubotu> Package kernel-686 does not exist in any distro I know
[07:26] <profoX`> LjL: but i don't want to cause problems on someone elses pc.. but well.. i guess if I force it, it will just make 1 of those 2 working
[07:26] <profoX`> !info linux-686
[07:26] <ubotu> linux-686: Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In component restricted, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[07:26] <profoX`> LjL: and thats all I need to know..
[07:26] <sureshot> thanks
[07:26] <bluszcz> !info barrage
[07:26] <ubotu> barrage: Rather violent action game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (dapper), package size 397 kB, installed size 1952 kB
[07:26] <LjL> profoX`: i understand, well, you could probably file the bug anyway
[07:26] <MaKaTiGuY> how can i transfer this one to other location /tmp/disks-conf-hda1?
[07:27] <bluszcz> !info ubuntu
[07:27] <ubotu> Package ubuntu does not exist in any distro I know
[07:27] <profoX`> sureshot: sudo apt-get install linux-686     that should get you everything, kernel + restricted-modules
[07:27] <profoX`> I think?
[07:27] <sureshot> brb goint to install it from the synatpic and reboot
[07:27] <profoX`> sureshot: yea synaptic works too
[07:27] <bluszcz> !help
[07:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:27] <arepie> i've installed my fglrx ati driver, but, why does my OpenGL is still mesa?
[07:27] <bluszcz> arepie: it depends
[07:27] <jhasse> georgeb, yes, me too. But i have added them but it isn't in them. I also get erros when apt-get update
[07:27] <sureshot> hey profoX thanks man going to do that right now
[07:27] <profoX`> arepie: did you restart X ?
[07:27] <arepie> i did restart X
[07:27] <bluszcz> arepie: what doues your X log says?
[07:27] <bluszcz> what does dmesg says?
[07:28] <arepie> could you explaint.. im new
[07:28] <CarlFK> did the paste used to have a "upload screen shot" option ?
[07:28] <profoX`> LjL: yea... but I think I better do a little research first..
[07:28] <MaKaTiGuY> how can i transfer this one to other location /tmp/disks-conf-hda1?
[07:28] <shuan> hi
[07:28] <tom``> I just upgraded x with apt-get and now it won't start anymore
[07:28] <jhasse> georgeb, http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/4236/
[07:28] <CarlFK> or, anyone know a paste site that has a "upload screen shot" option ?
[07:29] <profoX`> arepie: do ALT+F2 and type in the commandbox: gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:29] <shuan> can someone help me? i'm trying to install my Epson DX3800 usb printer to ubuntu!?
[07:29] <CarlFK> tom``: huh?  what command?
[07:29] <profoX`> copy-paste everything thats there on a website like www.pastebin.ca arepie
[07:29] <bieb_work> Anyone have an idea on the RAID issue I posted??
[07:29] <tom``> I remember this problem from before, I need towngrade to an earlier version, but it's a little hard to find outw from the command line... anyone got the instructions?
[07:29] <tom``> towngrade=downgrade
[07:30] <arepie> profoX`: here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26330/
[07:30] <MaKaTiGuY> ?
[07:30] <ericio6> could anybody advie how to get msn working on ubunto yahoo working but msn wont complete connection       n
[07:30] <profoX`> ericio6: gaim?
[07:30] <LjL> tom``: citygrade?
[07:31] <CarlFK> ericio6: using gaim?
[07:31] <ericio6> gaim or kopete
[07:31] <ericio6> trying both
[07:31] <ajtraynor> i checked all packages, everything is up, but my wireless connection wont work
[07:31] <profoX`> arepie: you don't seem to have configured Xorg to use the fglrx driver.. what install instructions did you use?
[07:31] <profoX`> arepie: did you do: sudo aticonfig --initial        after installation?
[07:31] <LjL> tom``, is that dapper?
[07:31] <tom``> yes
[07:31] <ajtraynor> and it worked before in previous installation
[07:31] <bieb_work> there may be an issue with the way Gaim tries to connect to msn... it fails on my windoze box at work
[07:31] <arepie> profoX`: yes i did
[07:32] <MaKaTiGuY> anyone?
[07:32] <ajtraynor> and i checked the cd for defects
[07:32] <ajtraynor> its somethign smal
[07:32] <ajtraynor> any ideas?
[07:32] <geniusvicks> I downloaded Xgl how Do i  make it work?
[07:32] <Justy-> !pastebin
[07:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:32] <profoX`> arepie: can you ALT+F2 and type: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf          I think that one line is wrong there..
[07:32] <MaKaTiGuY> anyone?
[07:32] <bieb_work> msn and Yahoo have both been known to change their logins to break the multi chat progs.. like gaim, trillian etc
[07:32] <profoX`> geniusvicks: you _downloaded_ ? how?
[07:32] <profoX`> geniusvicks: source code or did you download it through apt-get ?
[07:32] <geniusvicks> it wuz there in Synaptic
[07:33] <georgeb> jhasse: I don't spot the error; from what I see it's ok; now try sudo apt-get install csm
[07:33] <LjL> tom``: well, out of my mind, i can think of uninstalling the current version, commenting out the security reps (if that's where the update came from), reinstalling, uncommenting the reps, and marking the relevant packages as "on hold" using dpkg
[07:33] <tom``> whoops, just hit the wrong key and logged myself out :p
[07:33] <geniusvicks> profoX`: from Synaptic
[07:33] <arepie> profoX`: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26332/ here it is
[07:33] <profoX`> geniusvicks: go here for install instructions: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu
[07:33] <ajtraynor> why wont my wireless connection work
[07:33] <profoX`> the XGL wiki page is up to date
[07:33] <MaKaTiGuY> genuis: can you help me?
[07:34] <arepie> profoX`: you might want my lspci rite?
[07:34] <profoX`> arepie: not necessary..
[07:34] <tom``> LjL: thanks, I'll try that
[07:34] <LjL> tom``: also, if this may be of help, the package "links2" is a web browser that allows graphical browsing without X
[07:34] <arepie> ok
[07:34] <profoX`> arepie: what graphics card do you have? a newer ati graphics card ?
[07:34] <profoX`> which one exactly? do you know
[07:34] <sureshot> hey all i am downloading the 686 kernel right now my i ask what the difference would be between it and the 386 please
[07:34] <profoX`> sureshot: I already explained...
[07:35] <profoX`> sureshot: 686 might give you a _little_ speedbump
[07:35] <profoX`> sureshot: because its optimized for pentium 2 and higher.. but it won't give you anything special
[07:35] <sureshot> profoXwhy is what i want to know sorry i am trying to learn evry thing i can
[07:35] <MaKaTiGuY> profox:Xhow do i transfer this one to other location /tmp/disks-conf-hda1?
[07:35] <arepie> profoX`: if you wanted to see my lspci here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26334/
[07:35] <sureshot> ok that is good enoungh i need to reboot chat with you and a few
[07:35] <profoX`> MaKaTiGuY: what is "this one" ?
[07:36] <profoX`> sureshot: gl
[07:36] <arepie> profoX`: im using ati radeon 9600 pro
[07:36] <geniusvicks> MaKaTiGuY: What is ur problem?
[07:36] <ajtraynor> wheres a support page for setting up or connecting to wireless network
[07:36] <sivik> how do i turn on ftp?  i already have the stuff installed
[07:36] <MaKaTiGuY> genuis: how do i transfer this one to other location /tmp/disks-conf-hda1?
[07:36] <LjL> tom``: but couldn't you perhaps get X to work again temporarily by telling it to use the VESA driver instead of whatever card specific driver you're using?
[07:36] <profoX`> arepie: that one is fully supported by fglrx.. but one line is wrong in xorg.conf .. thats strange..
[07:37] <profoX`> arepie: you could do it automatically or change it manually.. try it automatically and tell me what the output of the command is..
[07:37] <profoX`> arepie: open up a terminal window
[07:37] <arepie> ok
[07:37] <profoX`> arepie: and then type: sudo aticonfig --initial
[07:37] <profoX`> arepie: what does that give you?
[07:38] <arepie> profoX`: i've pasted in private
[07:38] <profoX`> arepie: ok
[07:39] <Jay__> how do i get kde?
[07:39] <MaKaTiGuY> profox: can i unmount my other partition that is in /temp directory
[07:39] <LjL> Jay__: "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[07:39] <Jay__> then what LjL?
[07:39] <LjL> Jay__: then you have kde
[07:40] <Jay__> so how do i get it in kde instead of gnome and vice-versa after that LjL?
[07:40] <LjL> Jay__: at the login screen, click "Options", and choose a KDE session
[07:41] <LjL> Jay__: and if you want to have KDE's login manager (KDM) instead of Gnome's one (GDM), type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[07:41] <sureshot> profoX i changed my session over to xgl and and started beryl and it runs a lot smoother and some what faster thanks
[07:42] <craigbass1976> I can't ssh into my ubuntu box, but I can ssh out of it.  Is the firewall blocking me?  From what I've read, there's no rules in te firewall.  Where is the iptables file?
[07:42] <bayzider> hey i need help instaling a windows progam using wine. I installed it and it installed to my desktop under [program name}.exe.ink
[07:42] <LjL> craigbass1976: do you have "openssh-server" installed?
[07:42] <Jay__> im new to this linux thin
[07:42] <Jay__> *thing
[07:43] <boink> ok
[07:43] <craigbass1976> LjL, Probably not.  Where is the file called iptables?
[07:43] <LjL> craigbass1976: "iptables" is a command. don't know if there's also a file named that
[07:43] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows how to get rid of this error: 'ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:762:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream'? I get it when accessing the wine audio tab
[07:43] <LjL> craigbass1976: and, on a default ubuntu, you should have no firewalling iptables rules enabled anyway
[07:43] <craigbass1976> The command adds lines to the file.  In RH systems, it's in /etc/sysconfig but there's no such directory in Ubuntu.
[07:44] <profoX`> sureshot: no problem.. it won't be that much faster though.. maybe a little bit.. i don't really notice much difference myself
[07:44] <bayzider> does any one know what to do from there?
[07:44] <LjL> Jay__: well, just do what i said, it ought to get you into KDE at once.
[07:44] <craigbass1976> Well, I'm going to be running mysql and ssh, so I want some rules.
[07:44] <Zaggynl> firestarter ftw
[07:44] <LjL> craigbass1976: if you say it does add lines to a file, that might be... i didn't know so
[07:45] <LjL> craigbass1976: perhaps you want to look at the "iptables-save" and "iptables-restore" commands
[07:45] <boink> and the iptables flush commands too
[07:46] <craigbass1976> LjL, No, I'd rather just edit the file by hand.
[07:46] <boink> then make yourself a file. you want to block all ports except ssh?
[07:47] <craigbass1976> THere's already a file; I want to knwo if anyone knows where it is.
[07:47] <sureshot> profoX i changed my session over to xgl and and started beryl and it runs a lot smoother and some what faster thanks
[07:47] <boink> so, there's a file?
[07:47] <LjL> craigbass1976: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_iptables_sarge <- look at the section named "The main files"
[07:47] <sureshot> it is raning out side so i will not be on much it knocks out my sat internet so that is annoying
[07:47] <bayzider> so no one knows?
[07:47] <boink> far as I know, there isn't a file at all.
[07:47] <boink> you need to make it
[07:48] <LjL> boink: i believe so as well
[07:48] <WOLF_> buenas
[07:48] <LjL> boink: which is what iptables-save and iptables-restore seem to help doing, for all that i can see
[07:48] <WOLF_> tengo un problemilla
[07:48] <LjL> !es
[07:48] <MaKaTiGuY> boink: can i move my other partition to another location?
[07:48] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:48] <boink> why would you want to do that?
[07:48] <jrib> ubotu: tell craigbass1976 about iptables
[07:49] <craigbass1976> /var/lib is where it seems to be
[07:49] <clearzen> If you have a server with two ethernet ports which are both receiving connections do you assign each ethernet port it's own ip? And how would you configure this in ubuntu?
[07:49] <jrib> craigbass1976: there's a basic entry in the ubuntu wiki about saving and restoring iptables that might help too
[07:49] <sivik> how do i restart the vsftpd server since i messed with the vsftpd.conf file to allow users, not just anonymous
[07:49] <LjL> craigbass1976: so says the site -- though i have nothing there (but then i don't have any rules set either)
[07:49] <MaKaTiGuY> boink: because, i can't access that partition and its in the /tmp directory
[07:49] <holycow> http://mozy.org/vaio/
[07:49] <ajtraynor> jaysus i need the wireless working
[07:49] <boink> clearzen: System -> Admin -> networking
[07:49] <bayzider> !wine
[07:49] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:49] <holycow> http://mozy.org/vaio/
[07:49] <holycow> way cool
[07:50] <clearzen>  boink: it's a server install I don't have a gui on it
[07:50] <surekha> Hi all, Need help installing postgresql on ubuntu
[07:50] <clearzen> plus I tryed to configure seperate ip addresses and it did not work for me
[07:51] <MaKaTiGuY> boink: because, i can't access that partition and its in the /tmp directory
[07:51] <LjL> !firestarter > craigbass1976
[07:51] <jrib> !info postgresql
[07:51] <ubotu> postgresql: object-relational SQL database management system (transitional). In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 44 kB
[07:51] <LjL> craigbass1976: don't know if that's of any use, but it's what most people seem to be using to facilitate creating firewall rules afaik
[07:51] <surekha> can anyone point me to some documentation on installing postgresql on ubuntu
[07:52] <jrib> surekha: sudo apt-get install postgresql     after enabling universe
[07:52] <profoX`> LjL: why isnt force-conflicts in man dpkg?
[07:52] <surekha> jrib: ya I have done that
[07:52] <surekha> I have problems running postgres server
[07:52] <surekha> using postmaster
[07:53] <LjL> profoX`: it is. it's listed under the "--force-things" option... as one of the "things2
[07:53] <jrib> surekha: try to be more specific, what problems?  Do you get errors?  Someone may be able to help, but I probably can't since I don't know anything about postgresql
[07:53] <LjL> surekha: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL  and  https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/databases.html  possibly
[07:54] <surekha> thanks LjL!
[07:55] <gta> question: whend itz do to appear the new xubuntu ???
[07:56] <jrib> ubotu: tell gta about schedule
[07:56] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: can you help me pls
[07:57] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: can you repeat the problem please?
[07:57] <LjL> !schedule > gta
[07:57] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: can i move my other partition to another location?
[07:58] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: "to another location"?
[07:58] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: because, i can't access that partition and its in the /tmp directory
[07:58] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: "sudo umount /tmp/whereverthepartitionis", and then mount it somewhere else
[07:58] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: and don't mount things under /tmp. *never*. they get deleted at reboot
[07:59] <MaKaTiGuY> umount ~/temp/disk-conf-hda6
[07:59] <MaKaTiGuY> umount: /home/dude/temp/disk-conf-hda6 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[07:59] <MaKaTiGuY> ?
[07:59] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: uh... is that ~/temp, or /tmp? they're two quite different things
[07:59] <MaKaTiGuY> tmp
[08:00] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: then why did you write "~/temp/disk-conf-hda6"?  try "sudo umount /tmp/disk-conf-hda6" perhaps
[08:00] <MaKaTiGuY> umount: /home/dude/tmp/disk-conf-hda6: not found
[08:00] <profoX`> LjL: when he forces dpkg: dpkg-divert: `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx' clashes with `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa by nvidia-glx'
[08:01] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: /tmp, "/tmp", it's got a slash -- *not* "tmp"
[08:01] <profoX`> LjL: so it seems like there is a technical reason.. and we _should_ be able to work around it somehow
[08:01] <profoX`> but it's hard because its a symlinked library
[08:02] <profoX`> LjL: i'm going to post a bug about it
[08:02] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: /tmp right?
[08:03] <profoX`> .so means shared object right?
[08:03] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: yes. please, can you just type what i told you to type?    sudo umount /tmp/disk-conf-hda6
[08:03] <LjL> profoX`: yeah. library.
[08:03] <profoX`> LjL: yea i know.. but i figured out myself that so means shared object, so i could be wrong :)
[08:03] <LjL> profoX`: if only one OpenGL library is supposed to be active at any given time, then well, i'm not sure it's an easy fix
[08:03] <profoX`> LjL: yep.. i know..
[08:03] <LjL> profoX`: i think i recalls it means that, yeah
[08:04] <profoX`> i think programs look for the file in /usr/lib
[08:04] <profoX`> ..and its linked to either the nvidia so or the fglrx so..
[08:04] <LjL> profoX`: well, you can probably override that for a single problem using shell variables
[08:04] <profoX`> and well.. you can't run 2 X servers then..
[08:04] <LjL> profoX`: LD_LIBRARY_PATH and company
[08:04] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: umount: /tmp/disk-conf-hda6: not found
[08:04] <profoX`> LjL: yes that sounds like a solution
[08:05] <profoX`> LjL: dont think it can be done in a clean and easy way
[08:05] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: well, then i don't know where that partition is mounted. you need to find out. type "mount" and paste the line that's relevant to that partition
[08:05] <profoX`> LjL: best solution would be if a certain X server would know wether it needs fglrx or nvidia and then changes the export setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH for that session
[08:05] <profoX`> LjL: I think..?
[08:05] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: /dev/hda6 on /tmp/disks-conf-hda6 type ntfs (rw)
[08:06] <LjL> profoX`: only thing i can think of, yeah
[08:06] <physicsnick> what's up #ubuntu
[08:06] <MaKaTiGuY> :) got it
[08:06] <MaKaTiGuY> tnnx
[08:06] <physicsnick> supposing i just rmed a file in a terminal
[08:06] <physicsnick> is there a way to undelete it?
[08:06] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: then type   sudo umount /tmp/disks-conf-hda6
[08:06] <LjL> physicsnick: not really. you can possibly use the "testdisk" package to try to recover something
[08:07] <LjL> physicsnick: there are also two other packages, "e2undel" and "recover", but i think those don't work on ext3
[08:07] <MaKaTiGuY> tnx LjL
[08:08] <jenda> Is there a way to make grep list lines _not_ matching a pattern? Like -L, but not stopping after the first match.
[08:08] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: to remount somewhere else,   sudo mount /dev/hda6 /somewhere/else
[08:08] <LjL> jenda: -v
[08:08] <fm> hi
[08:08] <jenda> LjL: thx
[08:09] <geniusvicks> I get an error while using xgl! Help
[08:09] <fm> has anyone got the Windows Live Mail advanced interface to work under linux?
[08:09] <LjL> !xgl
[08:09] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:09] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: ok, tnx
[08:09] <Mouldy> geniusvicks, care to be a little more specific?
[08:09] <geniusvicks> give me the pastebin link
[08:09] <geniusvicks> I'll paste the rrors
[08:09] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: also, make sure you do not have that entry in your "/etc/fstab" file. if you have it, *remove it*, because mounting anything into /tmp is, as i said, dangerous. very.
[08:10] <LjL> geniusvicks: #ubuntu-xgl is the channel for xgl support
[08:10] <Mouldy> fm, yes, it works fine in firefox if you add ?skipbrowsercheck=true to the URL
[08:10] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: ok copy
[08:10] <Mouldy> geniusvicks, http://pastebin.ca/
[08:10] <Mouldy> geniusvicks, but as LjL said, the #ubuntu-xgl chan would be better
[08:11] <gilesw> is there a gui for gconf?
[08:11] <geniusvicks> theres no one there
[08:11] <LjL> gilesw: yup, gconf-editor
[08:11] <fm> Mouldy : still basic version... ;(
[08:11] <Mouldy> geniusvicks, There is, they're just a bit slow to reply sometime
[08:11] <gilesw> hrm where abouts is it on the meun system?
[08:11] <fm> Mouldy : whats the url u enter?
[08:11] <gilesw> sorry for being lame..
[08:12] <LjL> geniusvicks: well, then ask here, but remember xgl is experimental, unsupported, and nobody is surprised that it'll give problems...
[08:12] <Mouldy> fm, You need to enable the 'uber' version in the Options. I use "http://by106w.bay106.mail.live.com/mail/mail.aspx?skipbrowsercheck=true" as my URL
[08:12] <LjL> gilesw: perhaps it's not even there (i don't really know, i use KDE). just type "gconf-editor" in a terminal though
[08:12] <gilesw> ya i got that working
[08:12] <gilesw> tx for your help though
[08:14] <kakado> is there an easy way to install 32 bit mplayer on amd64 with apt-get?
[08:14] <fm> Mouldy : I'm sorry I cannot find this option, u mean the edit->preference menu?
[08:16] <Mouldy> fm, 'ang on, brb
[08:16] <utab> hi there
[08:17] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: im getting error "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "data".
[08:17] <Mayko> hallo, i need some help on change the kdm theme on comand line, anyone know how?
[08:17] <ifrozen> re
[08:17] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: /data is the location
[08:17] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: /data is the new location
[08:17] <utab> I am getting some error messages while trying to open a pdf document, actually pdx file is corrupt or not compatible
[08:17] <Mouldy> fm, right, if you load up WLM there should be a link somewhere for "options" in that bit there is another link that says "Choose your mail experience"...that's what I'm on about
[08:17] <Mayko> i'am use the kdm themes  of kde 3.5.4
[08:18] <fm> Mouldy : Ok thx a lot! I gotta go now, thx!
[08:18] <gilesw> can i get osx style widgets?
[08:18] <gilesw> i'd like a stock quote thing for my desktop
[08:18] <Mouldy> gilesw, Try using gdesklets
[08:18] <jhasse> when i start beryl i get: XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA    Nvidia Present      what does that mean?
[08:18] <pike_> Mayko: you might have better lucck joining kubuntu channel /j kubuntu
[08:18] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: you either have to use the root account, or mount it with permissions allowing your user to read it. i have dinner ready, though -- ask about mounting with user permissions, or perhaps read ubotu's !mountwindows factoid, it should tell you what to do
[08:18] <Mayko> tanks
[08:19] <geniusvicks> Mouldy: here is the error which I get
[08:19] <MaKaTiGuY> k tnx
[08:19] <cute_bettong> you know i just noticed something really weard with my sound card ubuntu vs windows usage of the sound card.....windows put out true bass through my cheriwn-vega! speakers.....but ubuntu seems to have trouble with tones......is there something im not doing right?
[08:19] <gilesw> ta Mouldy i'll try that
[08:19] <geniusvicks> i915 DRI driver expected DDX version 1-1.5-x but got version 1.4.1
[08:20] <geniusvicks> libGC warning: 3D driver returned no fbconfigs
[08:20] <Mouldy> geniusvicks, What graphics card do you have?
[08:20] <geniusvicks> libGC error: Init Draw failed
[08:20] <geniusvicks> Mouldy: no card
[08:20] <geniusvicks> Mouldy:  onboard
[08:20] <geniusvicks> Mouldy:  Intel
[08:21] <ajtraynor> my ra0 wireless connection is sending loads of packets but is recieving none, why wont it work!
[08:21] <host`> which series of chip?
[08:21] <Mouldy> geniusvicks, Ah sorry, I don't know how you get it working with onboard. There's probably some howtos on the forums or something
[08:21] <geniusvicks> Mouldy: Okay thanks anyway
[08:21] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> hey ive gotta prob
[08:21] <utab> has anyone had problems with acroread and .pdx index files
[08:22] <host`> ajtraynor, are you connected using another device right now?
[08:22] <ajtraynor> why wont m wireless connection work
[08:22] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> im runnin xgl+beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 chipset
[08:22] <ajtraynor> the signal bar is recieving nothing
[08:22] <ajtraynor> bt the connection is activated
[08:22] <host`> ajtraynor, how are you connecting right now?
[08:22] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> my prob is dat i cant make a screenshot usin printscreen on the "take screenshot" option in accessories or thru gimp......the screenshot comes up garbled
[08:23] <cute_bettong> so anyone know why my ubuntu isen't useing my soundblaster live! like windows uses?
[08:23] <clearzen> if I plan on using two ethernet cards on one pc at the same time do I assgin them both the same ip address?
[08:23] <cute_bettong> the tones seem off
[08:23] <ajtraynor> host: im not, i did before perfectly but i installed a newer version
[08:23] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> but screenshots of windws usin alt+printscreen come out fine
[08:23] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> any solution??
[08:23] <ajtraynor> and it wont work, moxilla goes to blank page error
[08:24] <host`> ajtraynor, did you 'dhclient ra0'?
[08:24] <ajtraynor> i dont know what dhclient is>
[08:24] <lisi> I tried to set up a sym link to the FF bookmarks file to share between Ubuntu and XP, but they didn't show up when I opened FF in Ubuntu. so I tried copying the actual file to the Ubuntu partition, still didn't work, so I tried importing the file and then they did show up until i closed down FF and restarted - nothing there
[08:24] <host`> ajtraynor, also I know some people get conflicts when other devices are running, some people have to 'ifdown eth0'
[08:24] <lisi> I tried to set up a sym link to the FF bookmarks file to share between Ubuntu and XP, but they didn't show up when I opened FF in Ubuntu.
[08:24] <lisi> so I tried copying the actual file to the Ubuntu partition, still didn't work, so I tried importing the file and then they did show up until i closed down FF and restarted - nothing there
[08:25] <ajtraynor> so what do i do host?
[08:25] <ajtraynor> do you recon
[08:25] <ajtraynor> im new to ubuntu
[08:25] <host`> try 'dhclient ra0'
[08:25] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> im runnin xgl+beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 chipset.......my prob is dat i cant make a screenshot usin printscreen on the "take screenshot" option in accessories or thru gimp......the screenshot comes up garbled............but screenshots of windws usin alt+printscreen come out fine...any solution??
[08:25] <ajtraynor> how do i try it
[08:25] <host`> that will try to dhcp
[08:25] <host`> in terminal
[08:25] <host`> 'sudo dhclient ra0'
[08:25] <lisi> and BTW the bookmarks show up fine in Xp so i know the file is fine
[08:25] <ajtraynor> and what will that do?
[08:26] <stjepan> when I apt-get source something, patch this app, how to make a .deb?
[08:26] <bayzider> hey i installed a porgram in wine and it is telling me i need the active x browser object installed how do i do that
[08:26] <host`> it should take a min saying something like DHCPREQUEST and DHCPDISCOVER
[08:26] <bayzider> !active x
[08:26] <host`> and it should resolve you an IP address
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about active x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <stojance> What is the program, possibly daemon that scans Ips or what is going on with the internet on your computer?
[08:26] <ajtraynor> ok, i =ll do that now
[08:26] <stojance>  that is in synaptic
[08:26] <ajtraynor> see ya in 10 mins
[08:27] <bayzider> can some one help me????
[08:27] <lisi> any ideas why I can't even import the bookmarks in Ubuntu? I mean I can, but then they disappear
[08:27] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> im runnin xgl+beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 chipset.......my prob is dat i cant make a screenshot usin printscreen on the "take screenshot" option in accessories or thru gimp......the screenshot comes up garbled............but screenshots of windws usin alt+printscreen come out fine...any solution??
[08:27] <IcemanV9> !repeat > th3_d4r3d3vi1
[08:28] <bayzider> ! Active-X
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Active-X - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <bayzider> !active x
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about active x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> im runnin xgl+beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 chipset.......my prob is dat i cant make a screenshot usin printscreen on the "take screenshot" option in accessories or thru gimp......the screenshot comes up garbled............but screenshots of windws usin alt+printscreen come out fine...any solution??
[08:28] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> sigh
[08:28] <bayzider> ! mozila
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozila - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <AbortD> bay rider you trying to get firefox?
[08:29] <lisi> can anyone help me with my bookmarks problem?
[08:29] <AbortD> explain what it is and maybe someone can
[08:29] <bayzider> abortD: no im trying to get active x
[08:29] <lisi> ok, I'
[08:29] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> @iceman.....ny solution?
[08:29] <lisi> OK, I'll repost
[08:29] <AbortD> active x?
[08:29] <bayzider> yes
[08:29] <lisi> I tried to set up a sym link to the FF bookmarks file to share between Ubuntu and XP, but they didn't show up when I opened FF in Ubuntu.
[08:30] <AbortD> what is active x?
[08:30] <IcemanV9> bayzider: in wine, accept the dialog to install active x
[08:30] <lisi> so I tried copying the actual file to the Ubuntu partition, still didn't work, so I tried importing the file and then they did show up until i closed down FF and restarted - nothing there
[08:30] <bayzider> i did and nothing happened
[08:30] <IcemanV9> th3_d4r3d3vi1: no idea on beryl stuff .. sorry
[08:30] <AbortD> are they hidden lisi?
[08:30] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> :(
[08:30] <bayzider> any thing i have to go in a few secondes
[08:30] <IcemanV9> bayzider: restart the fx in wine?
[08:30] <stjepan> can I make a backup copy of my system and then restore it? I made tar.gz archive of my previous system. Then I formatted partitions. How to restore???
[08:30] <bayzider> ok i have to go
[08:31] <lisi> what do you mean hidden? the bookmarks folder is empty
[08:31] <AbortD> hm
[08:31] <host`> do ls -al
[08:32] <nahoj> wich kernel should I use to my Pentium M cpu?
[08:32] <IcemanV9> th3_d4r3d3vi1: check out at ubuntuforums - i am sure there are many threads on beryl & xgl stuffs
[08:32] <phaedrus44> ello
[08:32] <IcemanV9> nahoj: linux-686
[08:33] <nahoj> IcemanV9, not the generic??
[08:33] <nahoj> Im on edgy
[08:33] <lisi> hm, I did more bookmarks.html and there is content in the file - why does it not show in the browser?
[08:33] <IcemanV9> nahoj: yes. it's the same. i don't know why they named it to generic
[08:33] <host`> .wiki the forrest
[08:34] <nahoj> IcemanV9, ok, thx!!
[08:34] <host`> err. wrong channel
[08:35] <bieb_work> Hey Seveas
[08:35] <vortexoptics> Anyone know anything about installing ubuntu no a nforce "hardware" RAID(even though it's not true hardware RAID).  Is there anyway to make ubuntu see it as one drive?  My ubuntu install see's it as 4 seperate drives.
[08:36] <lisi> anyone got an idea?
[08:36] <vortexoptics> There isn't a whole lot of information on installing onto a hardware raid.  You'd think more people would want to do it
[08:36] <IcemanV9> !raid > vortexoptics
[08:36] <vortexoptics> hmm
[08:37] <vortexoptics> clever
[08:37] <jake> I have a NTFS partition I would like to shrink by about 10 Gigs so I can fit Ubuntu on the drive - Is it possible to do that in the setup?
[08:37] <Seveas> hey bieb_work
[08:37] <scribbles_> when I use wget I get Error parsing proxy URL http://:8080/: Invalid host name.
[08:37] <scribbles_> , is there a setting thats causing it to use a proxy?
[08:37] <pike_> jake: yes but i would backup any important stuff first
[08:38] <jake> pike_: So, how unsafe is it?
[08:38] <esj> jake: I've used PartitionMagic to do that
[08:38] <host`> it's about 99.9999% safe
[08:38] <esj> it's been pretty reliable.  I think I screwed it up once
[08:38] <pike_> jake: ive used commercial products like partition magic but never gparted so im not sure
[08:38] <phaedrus44> ello...when i do   lspci -v  i read that i have a broadcom wireless device in my laptop 4311 I believe.    I want to patch it
[08:39] <stjepan> what directory? where's the source?
[08:40] <cherubiel> scribbles_: unset HTTP_PROXY
[08:40] <IcemanV9> too late :)
[08:40] <cherubiel> scribbles_: run that first and then run the wget
[08:40] <esj>  anyone know where I can find the data store behind the network settings applet?
[08:40] <scribbles> excellent, thank you Cherubiel
[08:40] <esj> It thinks that I have a et
[08:40] <esj> eth2
[08:41] <stephans> what is teh best space to talk about ubuntu-server?
[08:41] <Seveas> #ubuntu-server or here
[08:41] <jake> Any idea what might be wrong? I've googled for it but haven't found anything so far... =/
[08:41] <vipernicus> having problems with latest edgy beta
[08:41] <vipernicus> X doesn't start
[08:41] <jrib> vipernicus: #ubuntu+1
[08:41] <TheGateKeeper> jake for what?
[08:41] <segfault_> vipernicus, ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:42] <jake> For partitionmagic, look a few lines up. =)
[08:42] <avagant> Why are people even using the edgy beta if it isn't fully finished yet?
[08:42] <tarzeau> avagant: impatient maybe/
[08:42] <avagant> I don't understand the reasoning.
[08:42] <esj> Jake: you mean the problem with it appears to make changes but on reboot it hasn't?
[08:42] <IcemanV9> avagant: beta = test it out :)
[08:42] <tarzeau> avagant: boredom?
[08:42] <jake> esj: exactly
[08:42] <avagant> beta=lots of problems?
[08:42] <tarzeau> avagant: oviously what they have isn't good enough
[08:42] <esj> Isn't there a commit option at the end of the process?
[08:42] <ajtraynor> HOST
[08:42] <tarzeau> avagant: not necessarily
[08:43] <TheGateKeeper> jake: here you go: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:43] <tarzeau> avagant: i've seen fantastic beta products, and horrible final products
[08:43] <badkitty> Anyone know how to get wireless drivers working with the native linux drivers???
[08:43] <jake> esj: Yes, and it asks me to reboot to make the changes, but nothing happens when i reboot
[08:43] <avagant> tarzeau: I've read people say they've had nothing but problems.
[08:43] <fdsd> hey guys, how do I turn off kernel messages in the console? for example I have a firewire harddrive when I plug it in and I am on the console it spits all this dmesg info on the screen.. how do I disable that?
[08:43] <tarzeau> avagant: using ubuntu?
[08:43] <avagant> tarzeau: Edgy ubuntu yah.
[08:43] <esj> Very weird.
[08:43] <host`> ajtraynor,?
[08:43] <avagant> tarzeau: I've got dapper and fight enough with that, I don't need something else to make it worse. :)
[08:44] <badkitty> lol
[08:44] <tarzeau> avagant: i don't know. i just have a local friend that is having problems with the stable releases, yet keeps using it
[08:44] <tarzeau> avagant: i'm happy with debian sid (since 7 years now)
[08:44] <esj> It's been a while since I have used it.  Is this a multistage process where you boot the same CD a couple times or is it a let it run, pop out the CD before reboot kind of deal
[08:44] <fdsd> anyone know?
[08:44] <avagant> tarzeau: I want something that has a little more sound stability.
[08:44] <esj> but as other folks have pointed out, the live CD with gparted may be your best bet
[08:44] <tarzeau> avagant: linux alsa with 2.6?
[08:45] <tarzeau> avagant: what's the problem? it's fine stable for me
[08:45] <esj> the gatekeeper has given you a URL which is what I would go with right now
[08:45] <avagant> tarzeau: This time it's working fine, but I don't know if maybe I'm just lucky so far.
[08:45] <badkitty> yah is someoine having a hard drive problem?
[08:45] <avagant> tarzeau: I can't play more than one sound at once, well for some reason this reinstall I can.
[08:45] <jake> esj: The thing is I really don't want to waste a CD if I don't have to... I only have two or so left :p
[08:45] <avagant> tarzeau: But I've fought with this for just about forever.
[08:45] <esj> are they really that precious?
[08:45] <amukanuk> ls
[08:45] <cherubiel> !esd
[08:45] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[08:46] <badkitty> lol
[08:46] <fdsd> anyone know?
[08:46] <jake> esj: Well, I want to get linux installed and running today... :P
[08:46] <badkitty> Anyone know how to get the native linux wireless drivers working for a wireless lan card?
[08:46] <esj> Or am I just being an idiot American who can purchase CDs on every street corner with a bag of crack for free
[08:46] <fdsd> hey guys, how do I turn off kernel messages in the console? for example I have a firewire harddrive when I plug it in and I am on the console it spits all this dmesg info on the screen.. how do I disable that?
[08:46] <beko_> hi there, anybody can help with UMTS mobil
[08:46] <beko_> ?
[08:46] <avagant> I don't know what version of alsa I have, or if it comes with dmix or dsnoop and i don't want to mess with anything to screw it up again.
[08:47] <IcemanV9> fdsd: switch to alt+f2 .. you won't see any dmesg message
[08:47] <avagant> I did that .asoundrc thing and tried using aplay and esd and it gave me nothing but error messages so i'm not going to mess with it.
[08:47] <fdsd> IcemanV9, cant
[08:47] <esj> Jake: my suggestion, being not very bright, would be to burn the CD, start the conversion, and then run out to the all night market and get a five pack.  It'll be expensive but you can do it tonight.
[08:47] <jake> esj: Nope, I'm Swedish and they are cheaper then candy... However, the stores are closed now and I don't want to wait until tomorrow :P
[08:48] <IcemanV9> fdsd: ?? cannot? why?
[08:48] <esj> Three of my four grandparents were Swedish so no wonder I recognize your stubborn streak.  :-)
[08:48] <fdsd> IcemanV9, my script starts in tty1
[08:48] <avagant> I guess I should just bare the burden of one sound object at a time for now.
[08:49] <esj> it's been long enough since I last used PartitionMagic that I really can't remember all of its strange corners
[08:49] <avagant> Coming from a Windows machine with no sound at all (wrong drivers perhaps?) I guess I should feel lucky.
[08:49] <IcemanV9> fdsd: ah. dunno if you can turn it off .. i couldn't figure it out myself as well. so i just simply switch over to tty2 and it works.
[08:49] <jake> esj: Hahaha :P Well, I just going to burn it anyway - I probably have like 20 or so CDs somewhere in my closet anyway :p
[08:49] <esj> I can't shake the feeling that somehow you are getting into a test mode and it's only simulating the copy
[08:49] <siva> I need help on Unichrome drivers.  can I contact any one in personal chat..
[08:49] <jake> Thank you by the way =)
[08:50] <xulund> hi.. how do i remove xfce  window manager? i want to run server only on 1 machine..
[08:50] <esj> well then, get to it
[08:50] <darrend> hi guys.  Is there a way to do a net install of ubuntu (server edition if that makes any difference)?  The machine I want to install on has a broken CD drive and it's very awkward to reach (so I'd prefer not to have to in order to put a new one in!)
[08:50] <fdsd> IcemanV9, I wasnt aware that tty2 didnt do that, thanks for the info, but I still need to disable it off tty1
[08:50] <siva> I need help on Unichrome drivers.
[08:51] <abhinay> the kernel 2.6.18 version compatable with the ubuntu dapper ? can i run on it ?
[08:51] <ajtraynor> HOST
[08:52] <ajtraynor> UBUntu wireless connection wont work? anyone got any ideas
[08:52] <ajtraynor> i set it up DHCP, ASCII WPA, ssid NETGEAR
[08:53] <host`> ajtraynor, what type of adapter do you have?
[08:53] <siva> OpenChrome web is not functioning for ubuntu binaries..
[08:53] <jbinder> hi
[08:53] <jake> Quick question about GParted - Does it support NTFS? I don't see anything about it on the site...
[08:53] <jbinder> jake: it does
[08:53] <cherubiel> jake: it does!
[08:53] <jake> Great, thanks =)
[08:54] <jbinder> cherubiel: are you a noob like the rest of the people in here, or do you have a brain?
[08:54] <ajtraynor> host, i have a RALINK RT2500 wireless card
[08:54] <jbinder> like me
[08:54] <cherubiel> jbinder: think what you want.
[08:54] <host`> ajtraynor, is it usb?
[08:54] <jbinder> meh
[08:54] <ajtraynor> and it worked before on a different version of ubuntu
[08:54] <ajtraynor> brezzy badger
[08:54] <jbinder> some people ask idiotic questions in here
[08:54] <erUSUL> !edgy
[08:55] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:55] <ajtraynor> no, its built in
[08:55] <cherubiel> its not reality thats importnt, but how you percieve things ;)
[08:55] <ajtraynor> the router is ethernet
[08:55] <jbinder> !schedule
[08:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:55] <buzzy> please suggest me a download accelerator..
[08:55] <host`> try using ndiswrapper if you can't get a dhclient resolve
[08:55] <cherubiel> ajtraynor: run iwconfig
[08:55] <buzzy> !download accelerator
[08:55] <ajtraynor> whats a ndiswrapper
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about download accelerator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <segfault_> ajtraynor, i dont have one, but did an install for someone with one and it worked fine
[08:55] <host`> ajtraynor, do this first
[08:55] <fdsd> hey guys, I am customizing the ubuntu livecd for my school, we are going to use it for data recovery, I have a shell script that starts on tty1, but its really annoying because dmesg messages keep interupting the script, how do I turn that off?
[08:55] <ajtraynor> ok
[08:55] <cherubiel> ajtraynor: that shows if you've got the drivers instlled
[08:56] <siva> ?? Via S3G Unichrome Pro IGP Drivers ??
[08:56] <ajtraynor> ah right
[08:56] <ajtraynor> how do i do this
[08:56] <cherubiel> ajtraynor:open up a terminal and issue iwconfig
[08:56] <host`> 'sudo iwlist ra0 scan' you should see possible netowrks you can connect to
[08:56] <cherubiel> once you have the drivers installed, do what host` says :)
[08:57] <host`> then 'sudo iwconfig ra0 essid (essid)
[08:57] <jbinder> is this card pcmcia or pci
[08:57] <host`> then if you have a WEP encryption you'll have to type 'sudo iwconfig key (code)
[08:58] <host`> er.. 'sudo iwconfig ra0 key (code)' one of those
[08:58] <ajtraynor> i hope this works
[08:58] <host`> then
[08:58] <m0biu5> anyone here have any luck with xinerama?
[08:58] <host`> dhclient ra0
[08:58] <ajtraynor> its fairly irritating that i cant get it working
[08:58] <MikeyMike> A small plane has crashed into a building in New York City. No further details immediately available.
[08:58] <MikeyMike> woops
[08:58] <cherubiel> whoa!
[08:58] <host`> it's a pain in the neck, if that doesn't work there are still more options
[08:58] <MikeyMike> yeah
[08:58] <MikeyMike> turn on CNN
[08:59] <MikeyMike> www.cnn.com
[08:59] <cherubiel> !wireless > ajtraynor
[08:59] <host`> ajtraynor, hold on a sec befor eyou go
[08:59] <ajtraynor> ok
[08:59] <lisi> ok, i guess if no one can help - I'll go back to Googling - not sure what else to look up though :(
[08:59] <jbinder> october 26th
[09:01] <jbinder> hi
[09:01] <host`> ajtraynor, go here, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926&highlight=howto+ndiswrapper
[09:01] <ajtraynor> host when i did the dhclient it somethign about SLEEPING
[09:01] <matid> Does anyone know why Firefox renders fonts differently? They're inconsistant with the rest of the desktop... Edgy here
[09:01] <host`> ajtraynor, do everything from step 7 down first, then if it doesn't work, try doing all of it
[09:02] <host`> ajtraynor, that means it didn't detect the netowork you were trying to connect to, it's possible that just setting the essid that it talks about in step 7 of that will fix that
[09:02] <host`> ajtraynor, if you don't know the essid, then you can do the 'iwlist ra0 scan'
[09:02] <m0biu5> does anyone know how i can set the function keys on my laptop
[09:02] <jbinder> yeah
[09:03] <jbinder> oh
[09:03] <jbinder> yeah
[09:03] <jbinder> m0biu5: xbindkeys
[09:03] <jbinder> m0biu5: sudo apt-get install xbindkeys
[09:03] <m0biu5> jbinder, yeah, on my way..
[09:04] <jbinder> k
[09:04] <jake> How much space is needed for Ubuntu? Will 5000MiB be enough?
[09:04] <bbrazil> jake: yes
[09:04] <jbinder> jake: yes
[09:04] <jake> Thanks
[09:04] <ajtraynor> thanks host
[09:04] <ajtraynor> ill do that now
[09:05] <jbinder> m0biu5: once that's done, do xbindkeys -k
[09:05] <m0biu5> jbinder, i downloaded i810switch to enable vga out on my laptop.. all my other function keys work fine.. ijust need to run i810rotate when i hit fn+f8...
[09:06] <SilentDissonance> a bit of an odd question... is it possible to create a 'custom' Synaptic repository from the packages i've already downloaded?  I wish to do a reinstall of ubuntu so I can set it up with a more logical partition setup :P
[09:06] <ricanelite> does anyone know this error message and what can I do to fix it? Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError : main/jnlp
[09:06] <jbinder> m0biu5: easy
[09:06] <m0biu5> jbinder: i just don't want it to end up overwriting the working keys...
[09:07] <jbinder> yea
[09:07] <directhex> something's broken my laptop edgy install - the permissions on /dev/null are screwy (only root can read/write to it, which breaks many things)
[09:07] <jbinder> directhex: sudo chmod 777 /dev/null -r
[09:08] <ricanelite> can someone help me please?
[09:08] <directhex> jbinder, great. and on the next reboot, given /dev/null is created by udev?
[09:08] <jbinder> should be
[09:08] <jbinder> ricanelite: whats the problem
[09:08] <cherubiel> ricanelite: ##ava
[09:08] <cherubiel> ricanelite: ##java
[09:09] <ricanelite> when I try to open up a Application I use for work which is a .jnlp file it starts to open up and then it closes up in aother words does not do nothing so i went to terminal and type in java "filename" and i got this error message
[09:09] <ricanelite> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError : main/jnlp
[09:09] <esj> weird problem with networking. eth0 and 1 are seen at boot time but the control panel sees only eth1 and 2.
[09:09] <directhex> ricanelite, using which java?
[09:10] <ricanelite> as in version? java 1.5
[09:10] <esj> I can't find out where ETH 2 is referenced by the control panel
[09:10] <jbinder> esj: hmm
[09:10] <jbinder> dapper?
[09:10] <ricanelite> i think 6
[09:10] <jbinder> esj: dapper?
[09:10] <esj> yes.  It's in dapper
[09:10] <jbinder> k
[09:10] <jbinder> hmm
[09:10] <jbinder> esj: why does it matter, what are you trying to do?
[09:11] <esj> hold on bt head set problems
[09:11] <jbinder> k
[09:11] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> hey.im running xgl/beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 based pc with ATI drivers. My prob is da screenshot taken usin the "take screenshot" option in accessories or by pressin printscreen or thru acquire in GIMP appears garbled..screenshots of a single open window taken using alt+print screen appear fine.........im VERY new to ubuntu...any solution to this?
[09:12] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> ??
[09:13] <ricanelite> how do i login into the IRC chat?
[09:13] <jbinder> ricanelite: what chat
[09:13] <ricanelite> this one
[09:13] <jbinder> you mean identify?
[09:13] <ricanelite> yeah
[09:14] <bieb_work> Hey Seveas, sorry about that.. got pulled away
[09:14] <ricanelite> sorry
[09:14] <esj> ohh, bt is wigged out again and noe I need to reboot.  bbs
[09:14] <meatface> howdy all
[09:14] <jbinder>  /msg nickserv identify <passwd>
[09:14] <pike_> ricanelite: /msg nickserv help    also
[09:14] <ricanelite> okay thank you
[09:14] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> nybody got a solution to my prob??
[09:15] <jbinder> th3_d4r3d3vi1: no... go to #ati?
[09:15] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> okie
[09:15] <SeanTater> meatface: hello
[09:16] <bon> how do i search file names using grep
[09:16] <meatface> SeanTater: what's shakin?
[09:16] <KenSentMe> bon: ls /dir | grep word
[09:16] <bon> cool thanks
[09:16] <SeanTater> meatface: I just realized that kde 3.5.5 was releases a few hours ago
[09:17] <meatface> I guess that's ok if you are into kde
[09:18] <meatface> I always used kde when I was running Mandrake, but then along came ubuntu
[09:18] <meatface> SeanTater: Is there anything new and exciting in this release?
[09:19] <unimatrix9> kubuntu!
[09:19] <meatface> SeanTater: Does that mean that you are running Kubuntu? And is so, what do you find better about Kubuntu than a standard ubuntu release?
[09:20] <es1> sorry about that
[09:21] <es1> every so often Windows Bluetooth loses its bloody mind, crams a bunch of noise down the audio channel and speech recognition turns its toast to the sky and fails
[09:21] <m0biu5> jbinder, i am not having any luck capturing fn keystrokes
[09:22] <jbinder> m0biu5: whats happening
[09:22] <m0biu5> jbinder, if i run just -k to capture any key.. pressing Fn doesn't yeild anything
[09:22] <es1> let's see, where was I.  Yes, someone had asked me why I cared about my network interfaces be ETH one and ETH two
[09:22] <jbinder> m0biu5: you pushed f8?
[09:23] <m0biu5> jbinder, if i press f8 by itself, that works..
[09:23] <es1> the reason is, ETH two was failing to acquire all the information from DHCP properly.  For example, I did not have a DNS entry
[09:23] <m0biu5> jbinder, but using fn+f8 doesn't work..
[09:23] <jbinder> oh
[09:23] <jbinder> m0biu5: xbindkeys -mk
[09:23] <jbinder> try that
[09:23] <es1> I think it's also a problem because the kernel sees ETH 0 and not ETH 2
[09:23] <m0biu5> jbinder, did that
[09:23] <m0biu5> jbinder, i can
[09:23] <meatface>
[09:23] <es1> so I'm trying to figure out why the disconnect
[09:23] <m0biu5> 't capture fn by itself
[09:24] <BiSk-8> hello, i need a program to extract a dvd into video files onto my pc, any ideas?
[09:24] <Goomie> Is there a location that has SCSI/RAID drivers for ubuntu?
[09:24] <ajtraynor> HOST, that didnt do anythign
[09:24] <bon> KenSentMe, i need to search all files on my computer not just the current direcotory
[09:24] <LuisMendes> will the final version of 6.10 include linux kernel 2.18?
[09:24] <es1> doesn't the divix project to something like that?  Or is it just compression codecs
[09:24] <LuisMendes> 2.6.18***
[09:24] <ajtraynor> it justgave details of the connection , such as frequecy, noise, DB
[09:24] <hoelk> any automatic way to remove duplicate repositories from sources.lst?
[09:24] <nickspoon> bon: find
[09:25] <pike_> BiSk-8: cat ? :)
[09:25] <stiz> i cannot seem to unshare folders in 6.10
[09:25] <host`> what?
[09:25] <Goomie> bon: or you can use locate
[09:25] <host`> iwconfig did?
[09:25] <BiSk-8> pike_ i'll try thx
[09:25] <m0biu5> jbinder, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=471983&postcount=4
[09:25] <ajtraynor> iwconfig just gave out details of ra0 connection
[09:25] <host`> just iwconfig alone will
[09:25] <bon> nickspoon, ha ok
[09:25] <pike_> BiSk-8: they will be pretty big you might try dvdbackup or dvdrip
[09:25] <IcemanV9> LuisMendes: i don't think so. -17 would be the default, i believe
[09:25] <pike_> instead
[09:26] <salkot> I'm trying to install a D-Link 2330 on an old Toshiba laptop, and the card is the supposedly supported Atheros 5212 chipset. The operating system seems to detect it ok, but whenever I go to "Properties" for ath0 in the network-admin, the system TOTALLY FREEZES. What can I try??
[09:26] <LuisMendes> IcemanV9, thanks
[09:26] <ajtraynor> host i think ill give up for the moment
[09:26] <pike_> BiSk-8: cat would just be to make an iso like cat /dev/dvd > /home/username/file.iso
[09:26] <ajtraynor> its awful annoying
[09:26] <BiSk-8> ah pike_ no thx then
[09:27] <stiz> everytime i go 2 shared folders and remove folders, close it, open it back up.... there still shared, cannot remove shared folders, any suggestions?
[09:27] <IcemanV9> salkot: try to do it in the terminal instead of using GUI since it'll freezes the system
[09:27] <meatface> BiSk-8 try acid rip or thoggen
[09:27] <Goomie> stiz: a samba share?
[09:28] <stiz> some samba some unix
[09:28] <BiSk-8> im downloading dvdrip pike, meatface.. is that ok?
[09:28] <salkot> IcemanV9, I have tried that too -- even just running dhclient freezes the system!
[09:28] <salkot> I can't ctrl-c or move the mouse.
[09:29] <jbinder> wtf
[09:29] <pike_> BiSk-8: youll want to try a few id download the ones meatface recommended as well
[09:29] <stiz> Goomie: samba and nfs, both wont remove, is there a config file i can edit 4 this?
[09:29] <Goomie> stiz: well for those samba shares you can go into /etc/samba/smb.conf and remove the entrys
[09:30] <stiz> thanx
[09:30] <BiSk-8> pike_ what i want is just a few video files... is that possibile?
[09:30] <es1> jbinder: that freezing phenomenon happens whenever ubuntu is waiting for certain types of network traffic
[09:30] <sIDR_> Hey, does anyone know how to get Flash to play in sync in Epiphany? I'm on Edgy.
[09:30] <Goomie> stiz: as for the nfs i believe those are in the /etc/exports
[09:30] <stiz> thank you Goomie
[09:30] <salkot> es1, are you talking to me?
[09:30] <es1> I've been puzzled by that before but if I wait something like 30 to 60 seconds, the system usually comes back
[09:30] <es1> sorry, yes.  I typed the wrong name
[09:30] <m0biu5> jbinder, not getting anywhere, any thoughts?
[09:30] <IcemanV9> salkot: it happened to me before with ath0 (d-link dwl-g650) .. did you boot your box with the card installed? if so, try to boot it without first, then insert the card
[09:30] <trex37> where should I go for networking help?
[09:30] <salkot> ok
[09:30] <jbinder> m0biu5: meh... i dont know
[09:30] <jbinder> odd
[09:31] <Goomie> stiz: there might even be fstab entrys too, not sure how u have them set up
[09:31] <Subhuman> sIDR_, its to do with the newest flash player, you jus going to have t owait till flash 9
[09:31] <es1> if I've been following, you're trying to deal with wireless networking issues?
[09:31] <m0biu5> jbinder, thanks for your help anyways.. you wouldn't be familiar with xinerama would you? =)
[09:31] <es1> Or have I gotten confused again
[09:31] <salkot> es1, that's right
[09:31] <pike_> BiSk-8: you can do alot of stuff its just that some of the tools are complicated.  some are just frontends and pretty easy i havent fooled with it much under linux
[09:31] <Goomie> stiz: is the samba and nfs shares on your machine?
[09:31] <jbinder> nope
[09:31] <es1> so you lock up every time the system tries to do a DHCP request or anything on the network
[09:31] <stiz> Goomie: yes my machine, not from other machines
[09:31] <salkot> IcemanV9, es1: I'll try giving it another minute to unfreeze, then restart
[09:31] <salkot> es1, not exactly -- it can do eth0 just fine, it's just this wireless card
[09:32] <es1> sorry, I was assuming only one network interface.
[09:32] <BiSk-8> pike_ ok ty, if i need help i know who to ask
[09:32] <salkot> would it be a problem if eth0 was up and I tried to bring ath0 up?
[09:32] <es1> I have had problems with both ethernet and wireless active at the same time
[09:32] <Goomie> stiz: the samba entrys should be towards the end of the file
[09:32] <nicodarious> hey all, anyone know if there's some kind of CSS decoder for Ubuntu so i can play my CSS encoded DVDs?
[09:32] <es1> there is a fight over who gets to be the default route especially if both are DHCP
[09:32] <Goomie> stiz: and ive worked very little with nfs but i know they use the exports file
[09:32] <es1> try disabling ETH zero
[09:33] <sidny4> !dvd
[09:33] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:33] <IcemanV9> it should not, but in case, disable one of those like es1 said
[09:33] <salkot> Ok
[09:33] <salkot> IcemanV9, after that I
[09:33] <salkot> er..I'll try sticking it in after boot
[09:34] <nicodarious> ubotu: thanks  i'll check them out.  (don't know why i couldn't find those on goodle/linux though, but oh well.)
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks  i'll check them out.  (don't know why i couldn't find those on goodle/linux though, but oh well.) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <unimatrix9> hi there, if ubuntu freezes, and hard reboot the system, should it not check the file system at boot?
[09:34] <sIDR_> So there's no way of getting Flash to play properly until Flash 9? I remember I had it working reasonably well a month or two ago...
[09:34] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[09:35] <es1> unimatrix9: sometimes but not always necessary if you use a journaling filesystem
[09:35] <compilerwriter> Hello all I am a newbie that needs someone to take pity on me and help me mount a floppy drive.  I keep screwing something up.
[09:35] <es1> you should be given an option to do a filesystem check if you are really fast on the keyboard.  I think the timeout is five seconds give or take
[09:35] <unimatrix9> i think it default installs ext2?
[09:35] <sidny4> ext3 isn't it?
[09:35] <es1> EXT3
[09:35] <Justy-> hello
[09:35] <es1> so you should be all set
[09:35] <kmaynard> gaaaah...finding an ldap manager sucks
[09:35] <salkot> Nope -- disabling eth0 first didn't help -- it's frozen again
[09:35] <Goomie> compilerwriter: i think it auto mounts it in /media/floppy
[09:35] <unimatrix9> okay how can icheck that?
[09:36] <kmaynard> and i refuse to navigate it by hand *cringe*
[09:36] <es1> salkot: don't despair.  It may still be misconfigured
[09:36] <anon32> aside from ext3, could someone recommend a filesystem for a 65GB partition with somewhat important data on it?
[09:36] <es1> anon32: multiple partitions, raid array
[09:36] <unimatrix9> on the shell how to get info on file system...free?
[09:36] <meatface> BisK-8 the programs I mentioned you can find in the package manager if you check off unsupported and commercial applications
[09:36] <cherubiel> unimatrix9: df -h
[09:36] <Justy-> Hello I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?
[09:36] <anon32> esl, yes... and a file system is not either of those
[09:37] <sidny4> anybody know what exactly LVM is?
[09:37] <KenSentMe> !lvm
[09:37] <fdoving> lvm > sidny4
[09:37] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:37] <es1> anon32: yes you are right that they are not a filesystem but if they are there, under your filesystem, you can sleep at night
[09:37] <compilerwriter> goomie If it automounted then I should be able to just put a blasted floppy in the drive should I not?
[09:37] <unimatrix9> df -h does not show filesystem type
[09:37] <anon32> esl, yes... but that doesn't answer my question
[09:37] <salkot> IcemanV9, I'm going to try your suggestion of putting it in after boot. What should I check before and after I stick it in?
[09:37] <anon32> I still want a recommendation for a FS tupe
[09:38] <anon32> type*
[09:38] <compilerwriter> I have read somewhere that there must be a mount point, but am unsure how to check if that is present.
[09:38] <pike_> anon32: for?
[09:38] <sleepster> For some reason, I am using a USB mouse and the mouse keeps freezing
[09:38] <es1> true: I think probably I would look at something like XFS which has a reputation for being good with large volumes of large files
[09:38] <pike_> compilerwriter: any directory can be mounted to
[09:38] <anon32> pike_, a generic 65GB partition that's getting more and more full by the second
[09:38] <IcemanV9> salkot: after insert the card, sudo dhclient ath0
[09:38] <compilerwriter> Someone pointed me to an fstab hack that would allow anyone to mount and unmount a floppy so that if I put in the disk my wife could take it out.
[09:38] <sykes^> !nvidia
[09:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:38] <anon32> es1, how's the XFS support in Ubuntu, compared with performance?
[09:39] <Goomie> compilerwriter: sudo mount /dev/fd /mnt/floppy , assuming its on that
[09:39] <IcemanV9> salkot: it should work without a problem (it did in my case)
[09:39] <es1> to be honest, I've never used it.  And the last time I saw performance comparisons, it was pretty good
[09:39] <es1> somebody did a performance comparison within the past six months but unfortunately, I don't have that data at hand
[09:39] <anon32> ok... anyone in here have any reasons why I shouldn't use XFS and Ubuntu together?
[09:39] <salkot> IcemanV9, "No such device"
[09:39] <cherubiel> compilerwriter: check out mdir, mcopy
[09:40] <grogoreo> is there any way to open new Adobe Illustrator files in Inkscape?
[09:40] <CromagDK> quick question how long does it take to fsck a device or does that depend on the size ?
[09:40] <Subhuman> grogoreo, there are converters on the net.
[09:40] <IcemanV9> salkot: sudo ifconfig ath0 up; sudo dhclient ath0
[09:40] <Goomie> compilewriter: did you just install ubuntu dapper?
[09:40] <salkot> ifconfig sez: "ath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[09:40] <compilerwriter> Goomie I just installed 6.01 a few weeks ago.
[09:40] <Justy-> Hello again, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?
[09:41] <compilerwriter> I have never needed to use a floppy until today.
[09:41] <grogoreo> Subhuman: do you know of any yourself?
[09:41] <sleepster> Anyone know of this problem?  I hooked up my USB mouse, and it freezes every 20 or so seconds.. and then it works fine
[09:41] <salkot> IcemanV9, it didn't autodetect for some reason
[09:41] <IcemanV9> salkot: ?? interesting.
[09:41] <w30> compilerwriter, man fstab check out the user option
[09:41] <IcemanV9> salkot: take it out and reinsert it again
[09:42] <compilerwriter> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[09:42] <compilerwriter> #
[09:42] <compilerwriter> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[09:42] <compilerwriter> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[09:42] <compilerwriter> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[09:42] <compilerwriter> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[09:42] <compilerwriter> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[09:42] <compilerwriter> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto rw,users,noauto,fmask=111,dmask=000  0   0
[09:42] <cherubiel> !paste
[09:42] <sidny4> compilerwriter, 6.06 is the latest stable release, you might want to try using that and see the problem has been fixed
[09:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:42] <anon32> kickban
[09:42] <Goomie> compilewriter: if you want to make it so anyone can mount and umount floppy add this line to fstab, /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,defaults,noauto 0 0
[09:42] <sleepster> Anyone know of this problem?  I hooked up my USB mouse, and it freezes every 20 or so seconds.. and then it works fine
[09:42] <compilerwriter> That is my /etc/fstab .
[09:42] <salkot> IcemanV9, same problem
[09:42] <IcemanV9> salkot: dmesg |grep ath0
[09:43] <kosnick> i need an application that messures the download rate . Any help?
[09:43] <black_13> is there a guide to building the kernel for ubuntu?
[09:43] <anon32> kosnick, run network-admin
[09:43] <IcemanV9> salkot: ifconfig .. what does it said? eth0? eth1? ath0? (don't paste it here :)
[09:43] <anon32> it'll tell you your data transfer rate overall
[09:43] <pecisk> sleepster: it happens, seems like USB controller is not supported correctly
[09:43] <salkot> Ok, I get two messages at the end that say "ath_attach: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware didn't respond as expected' (HAL status 3)"
[09:43] <kosnick> anon32 : thx
[09:43] <compilerwriter> I did a major update after I intstalled.  I may be running 6.06, but I am not sure.
[09:44] <pike_> !kernel > black_13
[09:44] <sleepster> peciks so is there a way to fix it?
[09:44] <black_13> !kernel
[09:44] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:44] <salkot> IcemanV9, should I paste all the results?
[09:44] <IcemanV9> salkot: okay. that helps a lot. hold on.
[09:44] <compilerwriter> It appears that I am running 6.06 LTS these days.
[09:44] <pecisk> sleepster: I fixed it by using PS/2 mouse
[09:45] <kosnick> anon32 : i meant the rate while downloading (realtime). i can't find something like it in the network-admin
[09:45] <pecisk> sleepster: after half a year and several major kernel upgrades, USB worked without gliches
[09:45] <sleepster> thanks pecisk, but unfortunately I only have a usb controller
[09:45] <pecisk> sleepster: damn, that's not good
[09:45] <anon32> kosnick, there's no way to have a "real-time" download rate
[09:45] <Razor-> does anyone know how to change the sounds on gaim
[09:45] <Goomie> compilerwriter: when you try and mount the floppy do u get an erro?
[09:45] <pecisk> sleepster: you should get dmesg
[09:45] <anon32> quick science lecture - speed = distance/time
[09:45] <salkot> es1, do you have any more ideas by the way?
[09:46] <compilerwriter> I have looked at the /media directory and has cdrom and cdrom0 entrys.
[09:46] <Goomie> comilerwriter: error*
[09:46] <pecisk> and check out what is happening there
[09:46] <anon32> all speeds have to be calculated with reference to time
[09:46] <compilerwriter> I am unsure quite the syntax to use.
[09:46] <es1> unfortunately I don't.
[09:46] <Goomie> compilerwriter: mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[09:47] <kosnick> anon32 : maybe i didn't say it right, well i want to know what is the speed of downloading when i download sth.
[09:47] <es1> The only thing I can think of is maybe using ndiswrapper as an interim solution
[09:47] <compilerwriter> I know this should be really simple stuff, but I am having an idiot day and really need to use the damned floppy drive.
[09:47] <Goomie> compilerwriter: /media/floppy, if that directory doesnt exist you will have to make it
[09:47] <es1> I must admit I am a little preoccupied with my own networking problems
[09:47] <anon32> kosnick, you need to check with whatever program you're using to download...
[09:47] <es1> I'm building a pastebin record of what I'm seeing
[09:47] <Paddy_EIRE> I just disabled my floppy...really cant find any use for it any more
[09:48] <compilerwriter>  should I make /media/floppy0 or just /media/floppy?
[09:48] <Paddy_EIRE> compilerwriter: how many floppy drives you got
[09:48] <salkot> es1, ok
[09:48] <anon32> um... can I convert my ReiserFS drive to XFS? or do I need to format?
[09:48] <compilerwriter> I have one floppy drive.
[09:48] <Goomie> compilerwriter: you can name it whatever you want thats just the mount directory the /dev/fd0 depends on how many like paddy asked
[09:48] <Paddy_EIRE> compilerwriter: then just use floppy
[09:49] <sleepster> thanks pecisk
[09:49] <compilerwriter> I now have a floppy0 since it is referenced that way in the /etc/fstab.  That seemed the most sensible way to go.  Should I make it simply floppy?
[09:49] <IcemanV9> salkot: the current version doesn't work; need the latest version to make it work - here's info that you may want to try .. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225330
[09:49] <anon32> is there a way to convert a Reiser partition to XFS?
[09:50] <salkot> IcemanV9, great, thank you! I'll check that out
[09:50] <IcemanV9> salkot: "hal status 3" is the key
[09:50] <pike_> anon32: like formatting with mkfs ?
[09:50] <Goomie> compilerwriter: if floppy0 is already present in /media then go ahead and run mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[09:50] <anon32> NO! converting without data loss
[09:51] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> hey.im running xgl/beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 based pc with ATI drivers. My prob is da screenshot taken usin the "take screenshot" option in accessories or by pressin printscreen or thru acquire in GIMP appears garbled..screenshots of a single open window taken using alt+print screen appear fine.........im VERY new to ubuntu...any solution to this?
[09:51] <sasalli> hi to all! when i try to install xserver-xgl, i'm getting this error http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3849/screenshotqh3.png
[09:51] <SeanTater> anon32: tar.gz the whole thing, copy it elsewhere, them mkfs
[09:51] <anon32> SeanTater, that's an absurd inconvenience
[09:51] <SeanTater> anon32: then unpack it back into the new fs
[09:51] <compilerwriter> I says I must specify the file system type.
[09:51] <anon32> I want to know if there's an answer to my question before I spend hours transferring data
[09:51] <es1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26354/  is some of the data collected from my networking headache.  As you can see at the bottom, the system knows about eth0 and 1, but ifconfig knows about ETH one and ETH 2.  Help?
[09:51] <SeanTater> anon32: tar without gz is faster
[09:52] <anon32> It's still an absurd inconvenience
[09:52] <anon32> if there's a way to convert, I see no reason to waste hours of my time backing up and copying
[09:52] <Justy-> Hello again, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?
[09:52] <es1> anon32: gparted may be able to help
[09:53] <compilerwriter> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 -t dos?
[09:53] <pike_> anon32: convertfs maybe but id be too afraid id end up tar.gz ing anyway
[09:53] <anon32> es1: can gparted convert partitions? I thought it just edited the partition table
[09:53] <Goomie> compilerwriter: mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 if that dont work try msdos
[09:53] <salkot> IcemanV9, it froze when I tried to `modprobe ath_pci`, but that was when I had stuck the card in after boot...trying again now with the card in at boot :/
[09:53] <es1> if you have consumed less than 50% of your disk, you might be able to create a new partition and then copy over
[09:53] <mjr> AFAIK there is no way to convert (well, aside from coding the conversion), so it's not a waste of time if you want to do it anyway
[09:53] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> nybody got a sol to my prob??:(
[09:53] <es1> you can then also do a resize if need be
[09:53] <anon32> es1, nope, 65% used
[09:53] <compilerwriter> Should the floppy be in the drive when I do that?
[09:53] <es1> still not helpless
[09:53] <sasalli> 2.try) when i try to install xserver-xgl, i'm getting this error http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3849/screenshotqh3.png
[09:53] <es1> hopeless
[09:53] <Goomie> compilerwriter: that would be a good idea
[09:54] <sasalli> how can i solve ?
[09:54] <es1> you should be able to then copy in thirds
[09:54] <anon32> and no... copy - resize - delete - resize - copy does not sound like a good idea
[09:54] <Justy-> sasalli, alt+printscreen
[09:54] <mjr> pike_, hmh, didn't know about that, but yeah, I wouldn't use it on any fs that had important data :]
[09:54] <gansinho> I have a usb bluetooth dongle which is not supported, is there anything that I can do?
[09:54] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> hey.im running xgl/beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 based pc with ATI drivers. My prob is da screenshot taken usin the "take screenshot" option in accessories or by pressin printscreen or thru acquire in GIMP appears garbled..screenshots of a single open window taken using alt+print screen appear fine.........im VERY new to ubuntu...any solution to this?
[09:54] <Justy-> sasalli, oyle yaparsan daha iyi olur
[09:54] <es1> it's that or copy to a new disk
[09:54] <compilerwriter> So far I have no new  is good news.
[09:54] <sasalli> vay
[09:54] <anon32> then, there's no way to convert?
[09:54] <compilerwriter> Now there should be an icon on my desktop correct?
[09:54] <sasalli> karde
[09:55] <gansinho> th3_d4r3d3vi1: try #beryl
[09:55] <es1> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
[09:55] <sasalli> neden?
[09:55] <anon32> es1, I'll read that
[09:55] <Goomie> compilerwriter: maybe, not a big gui fan, if not just open up filebrowser and go to /media/floppy0
[09:55] <mjr> anon32, pike_ already noted the existence of convertfs, if you're feeling brave
[09:55] <Justy-> sasalli, alt+printscreen sadece aktif pencerenin resmini eker
[09:55] <sasalli> tamam
[09:55] <Justy-> sasalli, boylece resmin daha kk boyutta olur ;)
[09:56] <anon32> mjr, feeling brave? is it over 50% failure then?
[09:56] <sasalli> win de varda burada denemek aklma gelmedi
[09:56] <mjr> how should I know
[09:56] <es1> seriously, given the cost of new discs (100 bucks for 200 GB), it's a cheap way to do the conversion
[09:56] <Justy-> Hello again, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?
[09:56] <anon32> um... nowhere does it say gparted can convert..
[09:56] <mjr> anon32, that's because it can't
[09:56] <anon32> es1, but buying one is a WASTE of my time... I want this done quickly
[09:56] <x1alpha> hello do the xgl debs work ?
[09:56] <anon32> mjr, exactly
[09:56] <es1> how valuable did you say your data was?
[09:56] <compilerwriter> Yay I have been able to access an old resume that was on the floppy.  Thank you.
[09:57] <es1> What's the cost of losing it?
[09:57] <compilerwriter> Now will I have to mount and unmount the thing everytime I use it?
[09:57] <anon32> es1, not very valuable, what's at cost here is my TIME which is infinitely valuable
[09:57] <Goomie> compilerwriter: dont be lazy :)
[09:57] <dobbbob> can i upgrade to the latest edgey from the latest dapper???
[09:57] <mjr> anon32, well then obviously convert is for you, should do it quickly if it works :]
[09:57] <es1> Okay, not trying to be a pain, only trying to understand.  Then why do the conversion?  I missed that part.
[09:57] <compilerwriter> I am just asking.  The cdrom drive takes care of itself.  Will the floppy now that it is set up?
[09:57] <IcemanV9> compilerwriter: you can write a script to mount and unmount it :)
[09:57] <Goomie> compilerwriter: you can try googling automount floppy
[09:58] <anon32> mjr, "if it works" - is the failure rate like 90% then or something?
[09:58] <dobbbob> from the apt-get i mean
[09:58] <mjr> anon32, I already answered that
[09:58] <anon32> es1, because bad performance costs me time too
[09:58] <pike_> dobbbob: yes
[09:58] <anon32> mjr, where?
[09:58] <es1> I understand them
[09:58] <mjr> 22:56 < mjr> how should I know
[09:58] <es1> then
[09:58] <compilerwriter> I take I will have to do it manually then.
[09:58] <Goomie> compilerwriter: there you go IcemanV9, you can write scripts to make your life easier
[09:58] <anon32> ........................
[09:59] <anon32> well, I have backups of my data... so I'll give it a shot... if it fails, I'll just restore and waste my time
[09:59] <es1> unfortunately, anon32, you are stuck with a bunch of bad solutions.
[09:59] <Goomie> compilerwriter: i think you have to due to the nature of it
[09:59] <dobbbob> pike how? i want to update to edgey from within dapper
[09:59] <mjr> anon32, what I'm trying to say, you've been given the options. It's up to you to choose now.
[09:59] <es1> I'm really sorry because I truly understand where you are at because I've been there
[09:59] <compilerwriter> sudo unmount /dev/fdo ?
[09:59] <anon32> though, are Reiser and XFS both block-oriented and supported by kernel 2.6?
[09:59] <compilerwriter> What is the unmount command then?
[09:59] <es1> yes they are.
[09:59] <anon32> ok
[09:59] <Goomie> compilerwriter: you shouldnt need the sudo actually
[09:59] <btdown> !paste
[09:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:59] <anon32> time to give it a try...
[09:59] <es1> Best of luck
[10:00] <CromagDK> is it possible that fsck is EXTREMELY fast when no errors found in the start of a partition ?
[10:00] <anon32> mm... the only thing at stake is my time
[10:00] <pike_> dobbbob: well you can sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and do a find and replace replacing dapper with edgy then save then sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  i havent used edgy but that should work
[10:00] <compilerwriter> made me do the sudo to mount it.
[10:00] <compilerwriter> Maybe becaus it was the first time it was mounted.
[10:00] <es1> crimagdk: fsck is never fast
[10:00] <IcemanV9> compilerwriter: yep. sudo umount /dev/fd0
[10:00] <CromagDK> es1: hmm ok
[10:00] <dobbbob> ok
[10:00] <es1> you may be seeing journaling kicking in
[10:00] <anon32> last question: does ubuntu's support for XFS suck?
[10:01] <Goomie> IcemanV9: he wanted it set up to mount and umount without root
[10:01] <CromagDK> es1: nothing no.
[10:01] <es1> anon32: don't know yet.  Haven't tried it
[10:01] <anon32> mm... if it does, that's more time out the window :-\
[10:01] <CromagDK> es1: just fsck /dev/sda2 and 1 sec after it tells me its clean
[10:01] <anon32> oh yea... I need xfs tools too
[10:01] <es1> you might also try jfs
[10:01] <anon32> es1, perhaps
[10:01] <IcemanV9> ah
[10:01] <es1> Cromagdk: all that problem.  It's just checking the clean flag
[10:02] <w30> if fstab is setup with the users option then umount fd0 should be possible by any user
[10:02] <anon32> fd0?
[10:02] <es1> you need to force it to do an fsck sometime.  These switches are in the man page
[10:02] <_0001> ubotu i need ATI drivers
[10:02] <Goomie> w30: yeah i think his fstab has that in there
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i need ATI drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <CromagDK> es1: oh ok. so what can i do to check the disc more ?
[10:02] <anon32> I've seen sd* and hd* but never fd*....
[10:02] <compilerwriter> I will have to tell it to mount at /media/floppy0 when I want to mount the thing or will it mount it there now that the directory is already in existence?
[10:02] <salkot> IcemanV9, didn't work :/
[10:02] <CromagDK> floppy disk ?
[10:02] <w30> not /dev/fd0 but just fd0
[10:02] <es1> bad blocks
[10:02] <_0001> ubotu fglrx drivers
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fglrx drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <CromagDK> es1: ah ye thnkix
[10:02] <_0001> ubotu fglrx
[10:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:02] <dobbbob> pike it seems to be working
[10:02] <es1> you could also go purchase SpinRite if you use EXT 3 for your file system
[10:03] <dobbbob> ill cross my fingers
[10:03] <kupesoft> I've no idea where to ask this - my linksys router has a power supply that is 12V / 1000mA and I got a newer one, but that takes a power supply of 12V / .5A which I do not have.  Can I use the power supply on the newer one?
[10:03] <mjr> (the convertfs concept actually seems spiffy)
[10:03] <es1> that little utility has saved my bacon more than once
[10:03] <Justy-> Hello again, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?
[10:03] <pensos> I need some help
[10:03] <Goomie> compilerwriter: i think the entry is in your fstab all you have to do is mount /dev/fd0 and it should mount it there
[10:03] <compilerwriter> umount /dev/fd0
[10:03] <pensos> am new to Ubunti
[10:03] <pensos> anyone care to help
[10:03] <dobbbob> pike is it better to do a fresh install off the cd? will i get the same performance? i suspect maybe i have extra packages now leftover from dapper
[10:03] <w30> ok, then umount floppy0 in that case should be possible by any user
[10:03] <es1> don't we all need help
[10:03] <dobbbob> ubuntui!
[10:03] <pensos> lol es1
[10:03] <pensos> i need very basic help
[10:03] <pensos> very very basic
[10:03] <k0rd> pensos, whats your question?
[10:04] <pensos> can you help
[10:04] <es1> give it a shot
[10:04] <dobbbob> anyone know if i can install compiz from synaptics, or do ai need to do a lot of complicated text editing of files?
[10:04] <anon32> !ask
[10:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:04] <pensos> i have downloaded macromedia flash
[10:04] <es1> think of IRC is like a room full of a bunch of very drunk and technology people
[10:04] <pensos> i want to installl it
[10:04] <anon32> HAHAHAHA
[10:04] <IcemanV9> salkot: looks like you'll need a new driver
[10:04] <anon32> I see what's gonna happen now...
[10:04] <Goomie> dobbbob: if you look through ubuntu forums theres a guide
[10:04] <k0rd> pensos, did you apt-get it?
[10:04] <anon32> !flash
[10:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:04] <dobbbob> goomie that guide is complicated!
[10:04] <pensos> how do i do that
[10:04] <k0rd> open your terminal type "sudo apt-get install flash"
[10:04] <pike_> dobbbob: shouldnt matter.  but if there is a problem submit a bug report :)
[10:04] <k0rd> er
[10:04] <pensos> ok
[10:04] <Goomie> dobbbob: and yes there is some text editing to be done complicated is a matter of opinion
[10:04] <k0rd> "sudo apt-get install flash non-free"
[10:04] <pensos> one second
[10:04] <k0rd> ^^ type that
[10:05] <k0rd> with quotations
[10:05] <salkot> IcemanV9, I've done an apt-get update/upgrade...
[10:05] <k0rd> without*
[10:05] <dobbbob> goomie how long until i can do it from synaptics
[10:05] <dobbbob> when will it be incorporated???
[10:05] <dobbbob> like mandriva 2007
[10:05] <compilerwriter> That line was supposed to make it so that I need not be root to mount the blasted drive.  What is wrong with it?
[10:05] <IcemanV9> salkot: i meant that you have to download the driver from madwifi website and compile it. it's in thread.
[10:05] <pensos> Couldn't find package flash
[10:06] <pensos> thats the errror
[10:06] <k0rd> hmm
[10:06] <k0rd> hang on
[10:06] <anon32> !repositories
[10:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:06] <pensos> ok
[10:06] <pensos> i have it in another folder
[10:06] <salkot> IcemanV9, oh, I thought I would have the latest one from doing the upgrade
[10:06] <anon32> time to try my luck with convertfs..
[10:06] <pensos> could that be the reason
[10:06] <w30> compilerwriter, just do it like mount floppy0 and umount floppy0 as a user
[10:06] <puff> hoary->breezy dist-upgrade went smoothly, but the breezy->dapper upgrade now has the postfix config menu up.
[10:06] <IcemanV9> salkot: i have done it before on hoary. it was easy (for me).
[10:06] <k0rd> pensos, no
[10:06] <k0rd> I gave you the wrong command hang on
[10:06] <pensos> loool ok
[10:07] <pensos> hit me with the right onw
[10:07] <k0rd> my bad :(
[10:07] <w30> compilerwriter, then mount will read fstab
[10:07] <pensos> i have been using Suse 10
[10:07] <pensos> it hang up on me last night
[10:07] <anon32> error.... "no loop device support in kernel"
[10:07] <anon32> looks like I have to format
[10:07] <pensos> formatted everything and put in Ubunti
[10:07] <puff> Hm, I think i'll skip postfix for now, though I should seriously think about using a smarthost setup at some point.
[10:07] <anon32> wtf is loop device support, and how do I enable it?
[10:07] <k0rd> ok pensos
[10:08] <k0rd> "sudo apt-cache flash"
[10:08] <pensos> ok
[10:08] <k0rd> sudo apt-cache search flash
[10:08] <k0rd> anything come up?
[10:08] <anon32> error.... "no loop device support in kernel"
[10:08] <pensos> nope
[10:08] <pensos> nothing
[10:08] <anon32> what's the problem here?
[10:09] <pensos> -$
[10:09] <Goomie> anon32: <IP_ADDRESS> for tcp/ip, couldnt tell you the problem
[10:09] <pensos> just that
[10:09] <pensos> ~$
[10:09] <pensos> thats what comes up
[10:09] <anon32> Goomie, it's in reference to file systems
[10:09] <compilerwriter> what do you do to get the machine to read the fstab file.  I tried source, but that evidently doesn't work in bash.
[10:09] <k0rd> I have to run pensos
[10:09] <k0rd> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138405
[10:09] <gansinho> I have a usb bluetooth dongle which is not supported, is there anything that I can do?
[10:09] <sc0tty_> hi
[10:09] <k0rd> That should help you better than I can
[10:09] <pensos> k0rd what about using add/remove
[10:09] <Justy-> Hello again, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?
[10:09] <compilerwriter> It said It couldn't find floppy0 in the fstab or mtab.
[10:10] <cherubiel> anon32: you need to CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP and recompile the kernel
[10:10] <k0rd> hope you get it pensos
[10:10] <k0rd> im out later
[10:10] <anon32> !!!!!!!!!11
[10:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 11 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <anon32> GOD DAMN IT
[10:10] <cherubiel> compilerwriter: try mdir a:
[10:10] <pensos> havent got it
[10:10] <es1> anon32 hold
[10:10] <anon32> well, that'll take longer than backing up 2TB, so nvm
[10:10] <pensos> is it this hard to install anything in Ubuntu
[10:10] <es1> loopback devices are present in standard ubunth
[10:10] <sc0tty_> I don't know why, but all searches with easytag (cddb) always returns empty :(
[10:10] <es1> don't panic
[10:10] <anon32> es1, err... so why the error?
[10:10] <sc0tty_> it used to work at one time, but it doesn't anymore
[10:11] <es1> bad software creation
[10:11] <compilerwriter> mdir command not found
[10:11] <es1> I got an error about some type of Samba page not being available in the log which meant you haven't installed the package yet
[10:11] <anon32> es1, well... time to reformat then...
[10:11] <es1> not yet
[10:11] <cherubiel> compilerwriter: apt-get install mtools
[10:11] <es1> give me a couple minutes to let me find some notes
[10:11] <mikefoo> Anyone use ip over kvm here?
[10:12] <pensos> can anyone help me install a program
[10:12] <pensos> macromedia flash
[10:12] <compilerwriter> doing that now.  What the hell are mtools?
[10:12] <compilerwriter> had to sudo apt-get.
[10:12] <cherubiel> compilerwriter: does the mounting umountin automagically for ya
[10:13] <compilerwriter> They are mounting tools.
[10:13] <Goomie> pensos: ubuntuguide.org all your basic needs, id also check out automatrix
[10:13] <pike_> pensos: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree    do a search on wiki.ubuntu.com for stuff like flash and mp3
[10:13] <pensos> thanks Goomie and pike
[10:13] <compilerwriter> so do I now just hit the button to eject the disk and it will umount the damned drive?
[10:13] <w30> compilerwriter, try mount /media/cdrom0 and umount /media/cdrom0
[10:14] <phaedrus44> anyone use a broadcom wireless card?
[10:14] <anon32> phaedrus44, me
[10:14] <phaedrus44> sweet what one?
[10:14] <phaedrus44> 4311?
[10:14] <compilerwriter> says no media is found.
[10:14] <w30> compilerwriter, does that work?
[10:14] <Goomie> compilerwriter: u can hit the button any time , but if you have stuff that you wanted to write to it , then it might not get wrote unless u umount first
[10:14] <anon32> oh wait... mine's a wired card
[10:14] <anon32> sorry
[10:15] <x1alpha> anyone got xgl working from the debs in the repository ?