[01:14] <barg> hi, on a VPS console, any idea how I can download multiple files simultaneously.. i'm using the youtube-dl command. (which is like wget but for youtube videos). The problem is that if I have a script that runs youtube-dl [url]  then youtube-dl [url] it doesn't do them simultaneously. It runs one then when that completes it runs the next one
[01:16] <llanhmod> there's another version of yt-dl... forget what it's called....try that
[01:16] <sarnold> there's a few possible approaches; youtube-dl http://whatever/foo & youtube-dl http://whatever/bar & ...
[01:17] <sarnold> the & will ask the shell to run them in the background, but they'll probably spew output all over the terminal. it won't be great fun
[01:17] <ravage> llanhmod, https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp
[01:17] <llanhmod> ravage: possibly that
[01:18] <sarnold> you could run screen or tmux or byobu to get a 'windowed' interface with as many shells as you want
[01:18] <sarnold> screen / tmux / byobu are fantastic because you can also disconnect your ssh and it'll stay running. I run my irssi irc client in tmux so it's just always running whether or not I'm actually connected to it
[01:20] <sarnold> you could also use a program like task-spooler to let you just queue up a bunch of them, and it'll run N of them, and when one stops, it'll start the next one for you. you can configure how many will run at once. it'll save stdout and stderr from the programs in a handy format for retrieval later. it's pretty handy when you need it, but it's probably not somethin gyou'd use every day
[01:20] <llanhmod> sarnold: it would be if automated
[01:20] <sarnold> llanhmod ?
[01:21] <llanhmod> sarnold: read that wrong... my bad
[01:22] <llanhmod> all I read was not something used every day
[01:22] <sarnold> llanhmod: oh! :)
[01:22] <sarnold> llanhmod: good point, hehe
[01:27] <barg> thanks
[01:37] <IRONBOBCAT32> Hello!
[02:42] <barg> so if I have a file with a list of 10 youtube URLs to download, and I wanted to use 10 screens, each downloading one file, how would I do that automatically?
[02:43] <barg> (so , without manually going to each screen and executing the relevant command?)
[02:44] <sarnold> doing ten simultaneous downloads from youtube feels like the sort of thing that'd get you blocked; I'd probably just do youtube-dl url1 url2 url3 url4 url5 url6 .. and just grab them one at a time, to try to stay on their good side
[02:44] <enigma9o7[m]> why do you need a screen to download at all
[02:46] <barg> enigma9o7[m]: well the thought was to download multiple ones simultaneously rather than one then the other.. the speed youtube gives me to download is quite slow. like < 1MB/s
[02:47] <sarnold> yeah, I think they serve data only as fast as you can 'watch' it ..
[02:48] <enigma9o7[m]> Well even to do them simultaneously just launch the process in the background by following with ampersand.  No need for multiple screens unless you're trying to minitor progress or something.
[02:48] <enigma9o7[m]> And to go faster use yt-dlp someone already mentioned.
[02:57] <sarnold> heck at this point, I bet it's 'use yt-dlp in order to download at all'
[02:57] <sarnold> youtube-dl has been neglected for so long I'd be surprised if it works on youtube
[03:01] <lord_daemon> there are some distributions for maintenance: DLC, Trinity, REDO, System Rescue.I had one that starts with the letter S, but I deleted it and I can't find it anymore. can anyone help?
[03:24] <barg> enigma9o7[m]: thanks, yt-dlp(great fork of youtube-dl), seems very fast..and also it downloads the age restricted video no problem.  and yeah i see youtube-dl hasn't been updated in a while.
[03:26] <Unit193> !info yt-dlp focal-backports
[04:08] <arraybolt3> OK, I think I must be doing something wrong here. I'm trying to bisect a kernel. I know the problem exists in Ubuntu 22.04 and 21.10, but not in 20.04. So I'm trying to install Linux 5.4.0-115 on Lubuntu 22.10 (Kinetic), to see if the bug vanishes when I do that. I've installed linux-image-unsigned (no, I'm not using Secure Boot), linux-modules, linux-modules-extra, and both the "all" and "amd64" versions of linux-headers. I also added a focal mirror
[04:08] <arraybolt3> to the installation so I could install crda, wireless-crda, and libssl1.1, which were dependencies of the kernel packages. (This is a test system, don't have a heart attack at the Frankenbuntu I just built.) When I go to boot kernel 5.4.0-115 in GRUB, it just stalls. What am I missing here?
[04:09] <arraybolt3> (Oh, the problem also happens on Kinetic - I checked.)
[04:13] <samy1028> arraybolt3 : are you able to boot with another kernel then review /var/log/boot.log or any other log to get details?
[04:13] <arraybolt3> Yeah, I can boot the latest kernel in Kinetic. I'll look at the log.
[04:14] <arraybolt3> I did just discover I forgot to install linux-tools stuff. Would that have messed me up?
[04:17] <arraybolt3> Hmm. I'm not seeing anything in particular wrong in the logs. I'm wondering if the kernel is even able to find my disk? Let's see if I can wipe the log and then try to boot into the bad kernel.
[04:18] <arraybolt3> Oh, also, when I try to boot the bad kernel, I don't even get a Plymouth boot screen.
[04:19] <arraybolt3> And pressing keys on the keyboard doesn't do anything - even Ctrl+Alt+F[1|2|3|etc...] doesn't work. I should try booting it with nosplash and see if I can tell if a kernel panic is happening.
[04:22] <arraybolt3> Wow, the bad kernel is really stuck. I tried removing "splash" from the kernel command line when booting, and I didn't get a single line of text on my screen. I just checked boot.log after trying to boot the bad kernel twice, and I only see one boot in the log, that being the boot into the good kernel. So it's not logging anything, and it's not telling me anything on the screen.
[04:22] <arraybolt3> (And this laptop used to run Focal, so...?)
[04:24] <kubuntu> hi guys
[04:24] <Duck[m]> hi
[04:24] <kubuntu> how to force a background image via a script on kubuntu (I have three monitors)
[04:24] <kubuntu> ?
[04:24] <kubuntu> hi Duck[m]
[04:26] <kubuntu> i'm struggling with a problem i'm having with my setup: 3 monitors, gpu rtx 3080, kubuntu lts, nvidia 470 driver, everytime i hibernate they skip the wallpapers and go the standard ones ...
[04:27] <kubuntu> with 510 drivers we don't talk about it. x11 stopped working on two screens, menu items and black screen ... all disappeared
[04:28] <kubuntu> as it happens to him -> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/multi-monitor-setup-in-plasma-broke-after-stable-update-2021-07-28/76342
[04:29] <arraybolt3> kubuntu: Sadly this seems to be somewhat complicated to do. There's an answer on SuperUser that might help you: https://superuser.com/questions/488232/how-to-set-kde-desktop-wallpaper-from-command-line
[04:29] <kubuntu> but in my case blacklist nouveau seems not to have been enough unless I did something wrong ...
[04:30] <kubuntu> I had seen but how do I identify the three monitors?
[04:32] <kubuntu> i am new to ubuntu, i built my pc specifically for him but this driver problem is really nasty for me ...
[04:32] <arraybolt3> I think the script is designed to automatically find all three monitors. If you're trying to set one image per monitor, then you might have to tweak the script to remove the for loop and repeat the code in it three times, one for each monitor, and each one pointing to a different picture. If the pictures show up in the wrong order, tweak the picture order so they show up in the right order.
[04:32] <arraybolt3> (Note that not all of Linux is this tricky - this one particular problem is a doozy, many problems aren't near so bad, so don't be discouraged by this.)
[04:34] <kubuntu> Thanks for the support, and I have been trying to solve this problem for 2 days but im a noob XD
[04:34] <kubuntu> could you suggest me how to modify the script?
[04:35] <kubuntu> i've programmed a little bit in c ++ so i'm not a complete stranger ... but i just don't know where to start here
[04:35] <arraybolt3> kubuntu: Hmm, let me stick my mod in a pastebin so you can try it out.
[04:36] <kubuntu> great thank you really!
[04:37] <arraybolt3> https://pastebin.com/bJC3Htnw OK, take this, mess with the "file:///path/to/imagefile1" bits to point to your intended pictures, then paste it into a terminal with Ctrl+Shift+V, run it, and see what happens.
[04:38] <arraybolt3> I modified it to point to three different files, and assign one file to each desktop, so hopefully if I'm understanding the script right, this should work.
[04:38] <kubuntu> I do it right away
[04:39] <arraybolt3> samy1028: Hey, thanks for your help. I finally got the kernel to give me some text on the screen, and it is indeed panicing, apparently since it can't find my root disk. I think I can hopefully figure it out now. Thanks!
[04:42] <samy1028> arraybolt3 : glad to help point in the right direction :)  One of the best things about these channels.  I may not know the answer but I can provide insight on where to look for more information.
[04:42] <samy1028> Similar things have helped me many times before.
[04:47] <kubuntu> ok it seems that after a few attempts they succeeded Great arraybolt3
[04:47] <kubuntu> and now?
[04:49] <arraybolt3> kubuntu: Well, now that it works, the trick is going to be to get it to start after every boot, even a boot from hibernation. My best guess from a bit of research is to save the script, move it to /lib/systemd/system-sleep, and mark it executable.
[04:49] <arraybolt3> kubuntu: You can do that by saving the file to your home directory as "wallpaperrestore.sh".
[04:50] <arraybolt3> kubuntu: Then, in a terminal, do "sudo mv ~/wallpaperrestore.sh /lib/systemd/system-sleep/wallpaperrestore.sh"
[04:50] <arraybolt3> kubuntu: Then do "sudo chmod a+x /lib/systemd/system-sleep/wallpaperrestore.sh".
[04:54] <kubuntu> yes it finally works, thanks thanks thanks arraybolt3
[04:54] <arraybolt3> kubuntu: No problem! Glad it worked!
[04:55] <kubuntu> at the new entrance the images had gone for a ride but the script immediately intervened and repositioned them
[04:55] <kubuntu> magnificent, finally
[04:55] <kubuntu> Thanks!
[04:56] <arraybolt3> Woot!
[04:56] <kubuntu> now I make a screen of the conversation so if I have to do it again I'll know how
[04:57] <kubuntu> however nvidia drivers and configurations with multiple monitors through display port have read that they have problems
[04:59] <kubuntu> oh no, again... https://ibb.co/SNk81rc
[05:00] <arraybolt3> Hmm. Quick fix idea, make a symbolic link from the script to your desktop, that way in the event that the script doesn't autorun, you can run it manually.
[05:01] <arraybolt3> Hmm. Quick fix idea, make a symbolic link from the script to your desktop, that way in the event that the script doesn't autorun, you can run it manually.
[05:02] <arraybolt3> samy1028: Hey, got it to boot! Turns out the initrd wasn't getting mounted because it was using zstd compression. I changed it to gzip compression and it boots now. Thank you so much!
[05:02] <kubuntu> no unfortunately in this case it was not the background that was missing, it was precisely x that was skipped. I couldn't even right click on the desktop to put the wallpaper manually
[05:02] <arraybolt3> kubuntu: Oh, wow, crud. I dunno how to fix that.
[05:03] <kubuntu> https://pastebin.com/smpUyQgL
[05:04] <kubuntu> I always get this error
[05:04] <arraybolt3> Yuck. Looks like your desktop crashed. And this is happening after every boot, or after every wake from hibernation?
[05:05] <kubuntu> after each wake up from hibernation, and sometimes even at startup
[05:06] <arraybolt3> Did it only happen after adding the new script? Can you fix the problem by removing the script out of /lib/systemd/system-sleep?
[05:07] <kubuntu> it would be nice if it were for the script, no the script was great
[05:07] <kubuntu> apparently the problem is nvidia drivers ...
[05:07] <kubuntu> I've been fighting for 2 days
[05:11] <kubuntu> https://pastebin.com/tSKEDsME
[05:11] <kubuntu> before it seemed that through the DPMS option in the xorg.conf file I could solve but this was not the case
[05:16] <arraybolt3> kubuntu: Crud. Well, try switching to a terminal with "Ctrl+Alt+F2".
[05:18] <kubuntu> I was able to get back to a normal situation by hitting ctrl + alt + del and then log out> and log back in. but I would like to solve this catch, I can't do this every time ...
[05:19] <kubuntu> it makes me think that my xorg file is wrong
[05:19] <arraybolt3> Yeah. the problem is, I'm not sure how to reliably set things up to automatically restart plasmashell. I'm thinking along the lines of making a systemd unit to do it, but I'm not sure if that's the best option. Anyone here got ideas on automatically restarting plasmashell?
[05:20] <kubuntu> maybe all three monitors should be defined? This current xorg.conf is generated by nvidia-settings
[05:21] <kubuntu> and she says she only sees one monitor https://ibb.co/yYCGtZ5
[05:23] <kubuntu> thanks arraybolt3 very grateful for the help
[05:26] <arraybolt3> Hmm, that might be the problem. At this point, I don't have a lot of ideas other than auto-restarting plasmashell (I'm using only one screen on nVidia, and it's connected over HDMI).
[05:28] <kubuntu> could we create a script that, like the wallpaper script, restarts plasmashell at every login and awakening from hibernation? I reboot to get things right and I'm back in 10 second
[05:29] <arraybolt3> The next time it goes weird, try switching to a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+F2, then sign in, and do "startx" to see if that works. If that works, then we might be able to get something together.
[05:30] <kubuntu> I reproduce it immediately, as it always does ...
[05:30] <kubuntu> restart and return, it takes me a moment
[05:41] <Khepra> Hello. Has anyone noticed this. Firefox (snap) constantly keeps re-activating the "Check Spelling" option after a few minutes or when some other interaction happens.  I can't keep it OFF....
[05:46] <kubuntu_> here I am, I can no longer log into the operating system. at login it blocks and does not let me in
[05:47] <kubuntu_> i logged in from another partition i tried these days ...
[05:48] <arraybolt3> kubuntu_: Does "Ctrl+Alt+F2" get you to a terminal screen?
[05:51] <kubuntu_> yes, but after the first startx, the whole arrangement of the screens and obviously also the backgrounds went to be blessed. I tried to close session and when I came back it told me wrong password. I rebooted and after entering the password it freezes
[05:52] <kubuntu_> i tried to restart the computer several times but it freezes on login
[05:59] <kubuntu_> but do you think there is something wrong with my xorg.conf? arraybolt3
[06:04] <arraybolt3> kubuntu_: I don't know. Maybe? You can fiddle with it and see if you can fix it, but at this point, I'm not sure what's going wrong or how to resolve it. Sorry.
[06:05] <kubuntu_> I thank you. you were still precious and kind to give me a hand thanks
[06:05] <Khepra> kubuntu_: what DE or WM?
[06:06] <kubuntu_> I can only ask you if you have more than one screen and if so how is your xorg.conf done?
[06:06] <Khepra> kubuntu_: what DE or WM are you using with startx?
[06:06] <kubuntu_> Hi Khepra, what is de or wm? sorry if i didn't understand
[06:06] <Khepra> desktop environment or WM
[06:07] <arraybolt3> kubuntu_: I've got just one screen, sorry.
[06:07] <kubuntu_> do you mean plasma?
[06:07] <arraybolt3> Khepra: He's using kubuntu, so I assume KDE is his DE.
[06:07] <Khepra> does KDE even run without SDDM sessions?
[06:07] <arraybolt3> Kwin as WM I'd guess, unless he's messed with it, which I doubt.
[06:07] <kubuntu_> i am installing kubuntu 22.04
[06:08] <arraybolt3> Khepra: I've gotten KDE working on Arch without benefit of SDDM (I just used startx to jumpstart the desktop).
[06:08] <Khepra> I don't know this for a fact, but I think KDE/Plasma require SDDM, just like Gnome might require gdm3 for proper session setup. startx is really for "plain" WMs and simpler desktops with no session requirements
[06:08] <kubuntu_> sorry if I'm so ignorant XD
[06:08] <Khepra> also, is this a systemd system? systemd/logind will set up permissions for devices
[06:09] <arraybolt3> Khepra: Kubuntu uses systemd AFAIK, so most likely yes.
[06:09] <Khepra> kubuntu also doesn't install startx, so I'm wondering what kind of system is that
[06:09] <Khepra> obviously crippled and modified, if startx is used
[06:09] <Khepra> doesn't install *xinit
[06:10] <arraybolt3> I was suggesting startx to try to restart a crashed desktop without logging out and logging back in.
[06:10] <arraybolt3> I don't know if it works, it was just a suggestion.
[06:10] <Khepra> it doesn't
[06:11] <Khepra> xorg sockets are maintained by the DM
[06:11] <kubuntu_> I didn't mess around. I installed kubuntu for the third time and installed the nvidia drivers, first from the repo and then from the driver manager. only this I have tried the various versions of the drivers and the configuration of the xorg.conf file
[06:11] <Khepra> so running startx while another xserver holds the socket would not work
[06:12] <arraybolt3> Guess Arch != Ubuntu in this regard, good to know. That explains the issues kubuntu_ had with my suggestion. Do you have any ideas on how to fix the problem he's having? His plasmashell is crashing when he resumes from hibernation, and sometimes when he starts up the computer. He's using nVidia with three screens (there's more details higher up in the chat).
[06:12] <arraybolt3> Khepra: Pinging.
[06:12] <Khepra> nvidia is notoriously terrible with suspend and hibernation. I can't remember last time that work with nvidias, that I tried.
[06:13] <Khepra> (the proprietary driver, I mean. nouveau has swathes of other issues tho)
[06:15] <Khepra> arraybolt3: in which regard? are you saying you can run multiple xorg servers on the same socket in arch?
[06:15] <kubuntu_> this is comforting XD nvidia could do some better drivers ....
[06:16] <arraybolt3> Khepra: My Arch setup (when I was using Arch) was SDDM-less. I booted into a terminal, then ran startx to make the desktop appear. I didn't know about all this stuff with xorg sockets, so I thought "startx" would start X (right?) in the event that it crashed. I was wrong, sorry.
[06:17] <arraybolt3> (I was wrong with this setup, at least.)
[06:19] <kubuntu_> i reinstalled the drivers-nvidia-510 reboot and re-enter chat
[06:24] <kubuntu> Khepra, arraybolt3 do you think something can be done?
[06:26] <kubuntu> or is it all useless?
[06:31] <arraybolt3> kubuntu: The best I can figure (if it is nVidia's fault), is to not put the computer to sleep when you're using it for GPU-intensive tasks. When you're done with the GPU stuff, switch it to Nouveau drivers,  reboot, and then try putting it in sleep. If it wakes up and works properly, great. Then switch back to the proprietary drivers when you need the GPU to work good again.
[06:33] <arraybolt3> (Actually, I know you have to reboot when going from Nouveau to proprietary, but that *might* not be needed when going from proprietary to Nouveau, so, just throwing that out there.)
[06:34] <arraybolt3> CiccioBello: The best I can figure (if it is nVidia's fault), is to not put the computer to sleep when you're using it for GPU-intensive tasks. When you're done with the GPU stuff, switch it to Nouveau drivers,  reboot, and then try putting it in sleep. If it wakes up and works properly, great. Then switch back to the proprietary drivers when you need the GPU to work good again.
[06:34] <arraybolt3> (I saw you change nicks, that's how I knew what nick to ping, if you're wondering, "HOW DID HE KNOW MY DIFFERENT NICKNAME?!?")
[06:34] <arraybolt3> (Actually, I know you have to reboot when going from Nouveau to proprietary, but that *might* not be needed when going from proprietary to Nouveau, so, just throwing that out there.)
[06:43] <Khepra> eh the user's gone... but yeah, I agree. it's likely the driver fault. but other than hibernation/suspend, it should work pretty good.
[06:44] <CiccioBello> I understand thank you ....
[06:44] <Khepra> arraybolt3: you need to reboot in either direction.
[06:44] <CiccioBello> im here
[06:44] <Khepra> are you now :)
[06:44] <CiccioBello> i was reading this... lol ----> https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=346628
[06:45] <CiccioBello> I hope the translation turns out well: The theory is when you know everything and nothing works. Practice is when everything works and no one knows why. We have put together theory and practice: nothing works ... and nobody knows why!
[06:45] <Khepra> not even nvidia.
[06:45] <CiccioBello> it is my case of course XD
[06:47] <CiccioBello> I mean, I don't know anything and nothing works. In addition to familiarizing with ubuntu, I must also familiarize myself with English, sorry XD
[06:48] <CiccioBello> ahahah
[06:49] <CiccioBello> 1200 euro of video card to not make it work completely on the operating system that I decide lol
[06:52] <gamura> Hello
[06:52] <Khepra> kubuntu: that's the unfortunate state with hardware on linux. I got a 1k euro amdgpu and I had a lot of trouble to make it work glitchless. "too new" for linux (march 2021).
[06:54] <kubuntu> if more people used linux the world would be a better place ... that's why I decided to switch from mac or linux for my work too. Instead of buying a new built mac I have this build ....
[06:55] <Khepra> kubuntu: but what would you do with your 1.2k€ nvidia on a mac?
[06:55] <kubuntu> in the end the fact that he can't hibernate is a problem I can turn a blind eye to, but it's the fact that there's a problem I haven't solved that I don't like ...
[06:56] <kubuntu> I apologize if I mentioned the money, I didn't mean to be vulgar
[06:56] <Khepra> nobody said you were :)
[06:56] <Khepra> gtg, good luck
[06:57] <kubuntu> thanks, of course I couldn't have done anything about it ... but I wish everything worked perfectly
[06:58] <kubuntu> gtg?
[06:59] <kubuntu> which screensaver can i use on kde?
[08:39] <sankaranvenkatar> rmat a flash drive in ubuntu mate? I don't find any software in the software boutique.
[08:44] <biapy> sankaranvenkatar: format a flash drive ? things like gparted should be able to if you need a UI, from command line, mkfs.vfat or something should do the trick
[08:45] <sankaranvenkatar> OK. Thanks.
[11:11] <iomari891> greetings, is there a network applet for cairo-dock?
[11:19] <computerworm> iomari891, try "cairo-dock-wifi-plug-in"
[11:33] <delluser> using the slack snap the webcam works but not the microphone. the microphone works when using slack via chrome.
[11:42] <xubuntu> .........
[11:57] <ogra> delluser, is the audio-record plug connected ? see with "snap connections slack"
[12:17] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:31] <delluser> ogra: i can see that it is
[12:32] <delluser> audio-record              slack:audio-record                :audio-record                    -
[12:41] <Multbrelch> Hello. Is this channel still active or is there some other chat in the Internet?
[12:42] <ioria> !ask
[13:15] <ogra> delluser, what desktop are you using ? by default this should give slack full access to pulseaudio recording ... perhaps install pavucontrol and see if something is muted ?
[13:42] <donsira> I am having an issue with getting my laptop to get the DNS server from my router, and was wondering what the correct way of doing this is?
[13:42] <donsira> I have searched and found different solutions,
[13:42] <donsira> - some insert the DNS manually in the Network Manager or using netplan
[13:42] <donsira> - others use resolvconf
[13:42] <donsira> - others just change the simlink of `/etc/resolv.conf` from `/run/resolvconf/resolv.conf` to `/run/resolvconf/resolv-stub.conf` or `/run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf` and modify that one.
[13:42] <donsira> so I am confused as to which way would be the correct way to have my laptop dynamically get the DNS from the router so that it is always up to date in case I change the DNS in the router.
[13:43] <leftyfb> donsira: if your laptop is set to DHCP by default, then any issues you have with getting a DNS server assigned are due to your router/DHCP server
[13:43] <leftyfb> donsira: you posted too much too quick here so were put on silent. Give it a bit and you'll be able to post again
[13:43] <leftyfb> ok, you should be good now
[13:43] <leftyfb> donsira: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[13:44] <donsira> I am not running Ubuntu, I am running PopOS 22.10, but I was not able to get help anywhere so I thought I would try here
[13:44] <leftyfb> !popOS | donsira
[13:44] <leftyfb> sorry, but we cannot help you with PopOS
[13:44] <donsira> ok, thanks
[14:26] <jyan> Hello!
[14:26] <jyan> HAHAHHAHAHAH
[14:26] <polo> Hahahahaha
[14:26] <jyan> I finally got ubuntu to dualboot with windows
[14:26] <jyan> By the way
[14:26] <polo> Word
[14:26] <jyan> Why is the Ubuntu 22.04 Installer keep saying error code 5
[14:27] <jyan> I cant seem to find a fix
[14:28] <jyan> The 22.04 Installer says error code 5 but 18.04 MATE installs without problems
[14:29] <jyan> Zamn
[14:30] <jyan> Zamn
[14:30] <jyan> Yooo
[14:30] <jyan> you there?
[14:30] <polo> Yeah
[14:31] <jyan> Its the first time I got a reply in a IRC Channel
[14:31] <jyan> lol
[14:31] <jyan> some channels are dead
[14:31] <polo> What really
[14:31] <jyan> Ye--
[14:32] <jyan> Well
[14:32] <jyan> Its time I shut my lappy down
[14:32] <jyan> Goodbye
[14:34] <polo> Later
[14:35] <wez> marco!
[14:35] <polo> Haha
[14:35] <wez> <3
[14:41] <Guest2249> Can someone point me to a tuto how to make a systemd rules that will trigger when the Computer will be shutdown ( it is to execute a backup script)
[15:10] <armadefuego1> yes. google. you may wish to think about the side effects of your desire.
[15:16] <leftyfb> Guest2249: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/39226/how-to-run-a-script-with-systemd-right-before-shutdown
[16:23] <delluser> ogra: i'm using plasma desktop. i'll check out that pavucontrol thing.
[16:26] <delluser> it shows only one app active with the microphone: chrome
[16:26] <delluser> no show for slack
[16:27] <delluser> i just closed the slack in chrome and retested
[16:27] <delluser> still not showing any mic input on the slack snap. and no entry in 'recording' on pavucontrol
[17:42] <cbreak> isn't slack a snap application?
[17:43] <cbreak> you might have to give it permissions to access the microphone
[19:13] <lousiF> jellys
[19:14] <arraybolt3> lousiF: ?
[19:18] <lousiF> the jellyfish is operating OK now. heh
[19:20] <lousiF> alienware laptop
[20:25] <Multbrelch> Hi all. I try to install Ubuntu 22.04 from a Live USB stick (created by unetbootin) onto a HP Pavilion Aero (AMD Ryzen™ 7 5800U) without success! Please, help, thanks in advance. I end up with a black screen.
[20:25] <Multbrelch> I tried ‘nomode’ option manually typed into the grub preferences without success: still black screen, everything seems to be frozen. Any idea?
[20:29] <sarnold> try just using dd or cp to copy the installer image to a usb stick, some of the fancier tools muck around with the images
[20:30] <leftyfb> I would use etcher.io
[20:31] <Multbrelch> sarnold, I shall cp the iso file directly onto the USB stick?
[20:31] <leftyfb> no
[20:31] <leftyfb> the contents
[20:31] <Multbrelch> leftyfb, etcher.io? Where do I get this?
[20:31] <Multbrelch> leftyfb, okay. ;-)
[20:31] <leftyfb> http://etcher.io
[20:33] <Multbrelch> Well, I will see ... I stay online and report in (hopefully) some tens of minutes ... stay tuned ;-)
[20:34] <leftyfb> Multbrelch: are you having the issue booting the usb to get to the installer or did you install it successfully and now are getting the black screen?
[20:34] <Multbrelch> leftyfb, no it is with the usb stick, I cannot get into the install ...
[20:34] <leftyfb> Multbrelch: ok, then I suggest using etcher
[20:34] <Multbrelch> k
[20:35] <Multbrelch> This will take some time ... be patient
[20:36] <Multbrelch> It is writing onto the stick ...
[20:40] <Multbrelch> BTW: some years ago there was much more activity here ... why are the people gone?
[20:41] <leftyfb> Multbrelch: it's a support channel
[20:41] <arraybolt3> Multbrelch: Oh, don't worry, there's lots of people here, and when things get active, they can get REALLY ACTIVE.
[20:42] <Multbrelch> k
[20:42] <Multbrelch> 50 written, man is that slow ...
[20:43] <arraybolt3> Such is the nature of USB 2. I take it you're using a USB 2 drive or plugged your drive into a USB 2 port?
[20:43] <Multbrelch> Yep. ;-)
[20:43] <arraybolt3> There's your bottleneck.
[20:45] <Multbrelch> I'm booting ...
[20:51] <Multbrelch> Hmmm ... for a second I saw the mouse pointer after the loading screen disappeared and then it was loading from the USB stick and just got frozen, black screen again ...
[20:51] <Multbrelch> loading screen = Ubuntu loading screen
[20:52] <Multbrelch> Is the USB stick too slow may be?
[20:54] <Multbrelch> I try now 'Ubuntu (safe graphics)' in the grub menu ...
[20:55] <tomreyn> Multbrelch: i don't think the read/write speed of the usb stick would have such results.
[20:55] <Multbrelch> k
[20:56] <Multbrelch> Ha, 'safe graphics' works!
[20:56] <tomreyn> Multbrelch: which graphics card / chipsets are there in this computer? there are different 'HP Pavilion Aero' models
[20:57] <Multbrelch> tomreyn, it is this AMD Ryzen™ 7 5800U with GPU included ...
[20:57] <tomreyn> and no additional graphics card, right?
[20:58] <Multbrelch> No additional GPU
[20:58] <Multbrelch> See here: https://www.darty.com/nav/achat/informatique/ordinateur_portable-portable/portable/hp_13-be0017nf_r7_16_12.html?store=991001&esl-k=sem-google%7cng%7cc240564131959%7cm%7ckpla395932772553%7cp%7ct%7cdc%7ca49693353265%7cg1019118428&dartycid=sea_shopping-local_LIA-ALL-Informatique_adgroup_Informatique&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgs6und6k9QIVlPhRCh3XewgsEAQYAiABEgIP-_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds#product_caracteristics
[20:58] <Multbrelch> Oh, sry ...
[20:58] <Multbrelch> So, I have chosen 'Try Ubuntu' and it seems to work ...
[20:58] <tomreyn> good, so you will be able to install, too
[20:59] <tomreyn> consider a bios upgrade before you do so
[21:00] <Multbrelch> I hope so. I succeeded in installing 21.10 ... I just had to manually install (compile) the WLAN card and that worked ... it seems that I have to do the same with 22.04 because I don't see any access point ...
[21:01] <Multbrelch> Is that essential, a bios upgrade now? Or later?
[21:02] <tomreyn> it is not usually essential, but can be helpful to get better compatibility.
[21:03] <tomreyn> specifications for model HP 13-be0017nf https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c07992705
[21:05] <Multbrelch> tomreyn, seems to be my one, yes
[21:05] <Multbrelch> tomreyn, arraybolt3 and leftyfb, thanks for your kind help !
[21:07] <tomreyn> Multbrelch: you're welcome. this seems to be the latest bios: https://support.hp.com/gb-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/hp-pavilion-aero-13.3-inch-laptop-pc-13-be0000/2100371659/swItemId/ob-287316-1
[21:07] <tomreyn> journalctl -b | grep DMI:     would report yours
[21:08] <Multbrelch> tomreyn, thanks
[21:09] <Multbrelch> I bookmarked it ;-)
[22:00] <ArtfulDodger> Hey! When I connect through SSH to my 20.04 remote server, I see this message: "Super-optimized for small spaces - read how we shrank the memory footprint of MicroK8s to make it the smallest full K8s around"
[22:00] <ArtfulDodger> Does it mean that Micro8ks is already installed (it does not look so though) or is it just microk8s ads? :D
[22:01] <tomreyn> ArtfulDodger: the latter. the service is called motd-news, i think
[22:03] <ArtfulDodger> aaaaah yes, it's the message of the day tomreyn
[22:11] <overclucker> fortune strikes again!
[22:38] <WaV> jhutchins, oerheks1: Dont know if you remember my issue from a couple days ago, but so far defining a static in /etc/network/interfaces and defining dns servers in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf.d/dns_servers.conf seems to have fixed it
[22:44] <jhutchins> WaV: You did seem to be on the right path.
[23:09] <user9d> hey you guys I want to share a cool ubuntu package that does some really cool stuff!:  sudo apt install inotify-tools && inotifywait --recursive --monitor --quiet --event create ~/.config | tee ~/config_monitor.log  #get output like: ".config/hexchat/ CREATE hexchat.conf.new" as it runs. pretty sweet huh?
[23:11] <oerheks1> post it on ubuntuforums as oneliner
[23:25] <user9d> dangit my favorite pastebin was ubuntu's pastebin. Now I gotta login.
[23:26] <sarnold> yeah :(
[23:27] <oerheks1> registering is not that expensive


[16:59] <odraencode> hmm
[16:59] <odraencode> very interesting
[16:59] <odraencode> there is absolutely nobody here


[01:53] <chute> Hello - I have problems installing pangolin - the live-cd works fine but when I am installing it, it crashes when "localisation" appears in the bottom bar - any suggestions?
[02:27] <chute> thanks for reading me - chute out
[19:39] <RageD> Hello, I am new to developing ubuntu (but not new to developing). That said, I was wondering if it is possible to build/debug the ubiquity package (isolated) to do some work or will I have to run the updated source in a virtual machine?
[19:39] <RageD> I have (seemingly) built ubiquity successfully, however, when attempting to run it (inside my installed box) I get this python error:
[19:39] <RageD>     from ubiquity import misc
[19:39] <RageD> ImportError: No module named ubiquity
[19:39] <RageD> I am not entirely sure how to proceed to fix this problem.
[19:40] <RageD> Any ideas?
[19:50] <xnox> RageD: to build ubiquity from the branch / source package
[19:50] <xnox> $ ./debian/rules update
[19:50] <xnox> $ debuild
[19:51] <xnox> To run ubiquity, boot into _live cd_ , install updated packages
[19:51] <RageD> genius. thank you very much. I missed the "debian/rules update"
[19:51] <xnox> and start ubiquity from the short-cut or terminal
[19:51] <xnox> ./ubiquity --debug
[19:53] <RageD> great, thanks a lot. Is there a quick way of installing unmet dependencies when running debuild?
[20:01] <xnox> RageD: apt-get build-dep ubiquity
[20:01] <RageD> xnox: hm. tried that, doesn't appear to have worked.
[20:02] <xnox> What did it complain about?
[20:02] <xnox> RageD: for precise you should use precise ubiquity
[20:02] <xnox> RageD: from quantal you should use quantal ubiquity
[20:02] <xnox> RageD: they are separate branches
[20:03] <xnox> RageD: you will not be able to run quantal's ubiquity in precise, since ubiquity has been ported to python3 along with many build-dependencies
[20:03] <njin> xnox, have you notice of ubiquity-dm crashing ~ missing program error in VM but not in real HW ?
[20:03] <RageD> xnox: That makes sense. The issue I am having is with python3
[20:04] <xnox> njin: do you have a bug report? And by VM you do mean, live-cd running in a VM?
[20:04] <xnox> RageD: use p:~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/precise-proposed
[20:04] <RageD> xnox: thanks
[20:04] <njin> xnox, yes is an already reported bug but is private and i need the number to report the test on the iso tracker, can you give it to me ?
[20:05] <xnox> njin: i did not notice bugs about ubiquity-dm =/ please elaborate.
[20:05] <xnox> njin: if you reported it, you should be able to see it =)
[20:05] <njin> I start again VM
[20:06] <njin> xnox, is not a mine bug :-)
[20:06] <xnox> njin: oh. ok. I see some. Well some of them are expected on armel.
[20:06] <xnox> njin: but I am guessing you want something on i386/amd64
[20:07] <njin> amd64
[20:08] <xnox> njin: sorry don't see any private bugs w.r.t ubiquity-dm which are also recent
[20:08] <njin> looking better
[20:08] <xnox> there is one on armel & another one dating back a few cycles back.
[20:09] <njin> is a bug of few day ago
[20:15] <xnox> njin: maybe it's not private any more?
[20:15] <xnox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bugs?field.searchtext=ubiquity-dm&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=&orderby=-id&s
[20:15] <xnox> tart=0
[20:15] <xnox> urgh
[20:15] <njin> xnox, File "/usr/bin/ubiquity-dm", line 398 in run raise missingProgramError
[20:17] <xnox> njin: please file a new bug.
[20:17] <njin> The title I think that is Ubiquity-dm ...MissingProgramError: No window manager found (tried metacity......)
[20:18] <njin> when I run the crashfile with apport it return the lost something page
[20:19] <njin> reporducible only in VM and not in real hardware
[20:20] <xnox> njin: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/923395
[20:20] <ubot2`> xnox: Error: <Bugtracker.plugin.Launchpad instance at 0xa2d980c> bug 923395 not found
[20:20] <xnox> njin: or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1037515
[20:20] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1037515 in ubiquity "ubiquity-dm crashed with MissingProgramError in run(): No window manager found (tried metacity, xfwm4, matchbox-window-manager, openbox-lubuntu, openbox)" [Medium,New]
[20:21] <xnox> njin: last one ^^^ ?
[20:21] <njin> xnox, thanks
[20:21] <njin> great help
[20:22] <xnox> njin: but above is on armel and due to unity changes it is possible it fails. But if you get the same on i386/amd64 arches, please add a comment.
[20:23] <njin> xnox, doing
[20:32] <njin> done, thanks


[11:17] <Laney> cking: hey, happy new year - here's a present for you: can you look into the autopkgtests of stress-ng please? tlb-shootdown is somehow murdering the test runner
[11:18] <Laney> I think it's killing the parent or something
[11:18] <Laney> reproduces in the qemu runner fwiw
[11:18] <cking> Laney, how urgent is it?
[11:19] <Laney> I can blacklist for now
[11:19] <Laney> so depends if you want results
[11:19] <cking> blacklist it for now, I'll look at it sometime next week, thanks for the heads-up on this, it is a torture test that probably is too hard on the test runner for sure
[11:20] <Laney> I run that stressor over SSH and it kills my SSH connection :-)
[11:21] <cking> oops, that's a bit harsh of it
[11:23] <cking> Laney,  OK, I'll add some oom'ing magic to that one to make sure it gets oom'd before anything else. I think that's the issue
[11:25] <Laney> cking: I don't see any OOM stuff in dmesg from these runs
[11:25] <Laney> anyway, should reproduce for you I'd imagine
[11:25] <cking> Laney, how many CPUs and how much memory on the box?
[11:25] <cking> and which kernel?
[11:27] <Laney> 1 / 1024 / 4.13.0-17
[11:27]  * Laney did this: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/auto-pkg-test.html#executing-the-test
[11:28] <cking> ok, that's a good starting point, I'll try and get around to that next week
[11:28] <Laney> righto
[12:40] <juliank> apt's happy eyeballs in progress for security.ubuntu.com: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26312732/ - I artificially lowered the connection attempt delay to like 10 seconds to get quite a few attempts
[12:40] <juliank> It's a host that prefers IPv4, but you also note that the second v4 attempt completed before the first, so that one is picked.
[12:41] <juliank> This also means that if one of the addresses fails, APT now falls back to another within that delay (250 ms by default), rather than waiting for 2 minutes
[12:42] <juliank> I'm considering adding a linear back off factor, but currently it's a constant as the RFC specifies for stupid clients
[12:44] <juliank> It seems a natural back off the RFC 8305 does not specify would be to just always wait clamp(250 ms, time we spent so far, 2000 ms). Opinions welcome :D
[16:04] <wxl> ypwong: saw the recent changes to The Bug™. does this signal that we'll be respinning and releasing 17.10 again?
[16:36] <juliank> Huh. I just heard that loading rtsx_pci enables support for 01:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS5229 PCI Express Card Reader (rev 01)
[16:36] <juliank> how odd
[16:56] <juliank> -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1741084
[17:44] <letterman> does the default install pam log user passwd history
[17:46] <nacc> letterman: you're in the wrong channel.
[18:33] <wxl> oh ho! interesting fact: 4.15rc6 is being suggested to fix broken BIOS due to Intel SPI on bug 1734147 .... and that theoretically includes all of the x86 page table isolation patches https://lwn.net/Articles/742449/
[18:33] <wxl> so maybe we could kill two bugs with one stone? :)
[18:35] <dannf> slangasek: looks like some fixes i had queued for d-i/bionic got dropped from the repo before the last upload - was there a problem with those?
[18:36] <dannf> or maybe i failed to push them...
[18:38] <slangasek> dannf: sorry, I didn't knowingly drop anything
[18:38] <dannf> slangasek: ok - probably my fault then :)
[23:31] <JackFrost> Laney: https://sigma.unit193.net/source/debhelper_11ubuntu0.1~ubuntu16.04.dsc - https://sigma.unit193.net/source/debhelper_11ubuntu0.1~ubuntu17.10.dsc btw.
[23:31] <JackFrost> Xenial needs dh-autoreconf too, but that's super easy.
[23:33] <tsimonq2> It seems that all Launchpad builders are currently disabled. See the topic in #launchpad for more details.
[23:47] <JackFrost> My bad, dh-autoreconf already *has* a backport.  Not very recent, but should do the trick.
[23:48] <juliank> Yes, 12 is the minimum for debhelper
[23:48] <tsimonq2> juliank: We're on to debhelper 12 already? O_O
[23:48] <JackFrost> I'm aware, I didn't see xenial had it.
[23:48] <juliank> The other ones are mostly speed ups :D
[23:49] <juliank> tsimonq2: dh-autoreconf 12
[23:49] <juliank> :D
[23:49] <tsimonq2> juliank: hehehehe I was gonna say... :D
[23:49] <juliank> but debhelper 12 compat level exists in development :D
[23:49] <JackFrost> juliank: There was a discussion in #debian-derivatives, I may have accidentally volunteered to help backport debhelper.
[23:50] <juliank> I'm obviously highlighted by dh-autoreconf and happy to do any backports of that :D
[23:50] <juliank> but none needed so
[23:52] <JackFrost> I'd say "sorry for the ping", but your fault putting that on highlight. ;)
[23:52] <juliank> Re backports: I still gotta build an apt snap
[23:52] <JackFrost> ...Unless you want me to poke you again about xdt-autorun. :>
[23:52] <juliank> Latest apt everywhere :D
[23:53] <JackFrost> I'm presuming https://anonscm.debian.org/git/apt/apt.git/commit/?id=8d23827be3043daf7fed1b86da1d41578889eaeb won't get backported?
[23:56] <juliank> JackFrost: Oh, that should be backported to 1.4.y and 1.2y.
[23:57] <JackFrost> Ooh nice, won't have to wait for Bionic then.
[23:58] <juliank> I gotta cleanup 1.5.2 and release that
[23:58] <juliank> and then I can add that to the 1.4.y and 1.2.y queues
[23:58] <JackFrost> I still have to wait for Bionic for the new apt-file though, of course.


[00:00] <arraybolt3[m]> hemm333: Try #security.
[00:23] <fresh2kill> Hello
[00:25] <hans_> is there an #insecurity channel?
[00:25] <fresh2kill> I saw that there is a #ubuntu-security chnanel
[00:26] <arraybolt3[m]> hans_: Try /join #insecurity and you'll find out. If you join it and it's got only you in there and was created the moment you joined, then no.
[00:26] <kostkon> !alis
[00:28] <strk> I ended up using gparted to shrink my old unique partition
[00:28] <strk> when done I'll copy my data over
[00:34] <fresh2kill> .
[00:39] <jhutchins> Perhaps they just haven't published the latest version.
[00:39] <jhutchins> ... of minimal.
[00:40] <jhutchins> arraybolt3[m]: ^
[00:42] <arraybolt3[m]> jhutchins: Would be nice, it seems like it would help a lot of people, as I've seen more than one person say they wished the mini.iso still exists. But sadly, from the link that Ubottu gave, "Canonical and the Ubuntu project never officially supported the mini.iso ; it was produced as a by-product of building the debian-installer. As the Ubuntu Server image now uses subiquity, the build process that built mini.iso is no longer used, thus
[00:42] <arraybolt3[m]> why this installation media is now old. "
[00:46] <jhutchins> I suppose you could install with the old media (probably smaller anyway), then upgrade.
[01:38] <ahrifox950> Has anyone found a workaround for the lack of systemctl in WSL?
[01:56] <porton> `rm -rf` is stalled to define a directory on HDD with a big number of files. Do I have any choice except to reformat the partition?
[01:56] <porton> define -> delete
[01:57] <porton> Which FS has efficient delete?
[02:27] <BadAtom> porton: if the shell is choking on the number of files, you may need to use xargs
[02:33] <ravage> find with exec is usually a good workaround
[02:38] <jhutchins> I suspect porton simply needs to walk away and come back later.
[02:38] <jhutchins> THIS is why terabyte drives are a bad idea.
[02:39] <wez> What's wrong with terabyte drives?
[02:39] <jhutchins> Ahnberg: Yes, install linux as a full dual-boot OS, or as a VM.
[02:39] <jhutchins> wez: They hold huge numbers of files and people don't organize them in any way.
[02:39] <arraybolt3[m]> wez: You mean the part where they show up as 950-some-odd gigabytes?
[02:40] <jhutchins> wez: They can take a very long time to format, or to erase, or to encrypt.
[02:40] <arraybolt3[m]> Oh, sorry, I missed the conversation, ignore me.
[02:40] <jhutchins> They are a single point of failure that results in massive data loss.
[02:41] <arraybolt3[m]> I have 12 terabytes of spinning rust sitting on my desk right now. 🙂
[02:41] <jhutchins> arraybolt3[m]: How long would it take to zero them?
[02:41] <jhutchins> (Write zeros to all spaces.)
[02:42] <arraybolt3[m]> I ran a full badblocks test on it when I first got it, it took days.
[02:43] <arraybolt3[m]> But so far it works fantastic. Holds my backups and a copious collection oflinux distro installers.
[02:44] <arraybolt3[m]> I do keep it pretty well organized, though, maybe that' why I've never had a problem with it.
[02:46] <jhutchins> I just dealt with recovery and distribution of 98GB.  I had to babysit it for hours, then let the copies run for hours.  Multiply that by 200 for what's in MY storage server.
[02:47] <jhutchins> Funny thing, 98 GB overran a 128G drive, but ended up only using 96 GB on the 512.
[02:48] <arraybolt3[m]> LOL I know the babysit for hours problem. I had a 250 GB HDD from a Windows 7 laptop start to die, so I dd'd it into an image file on my 12 TB drive... over USB 2.0, 'cause I didn't have the presence of mind to take the dying HDD out of the laptop and plug it into a USB 3 port on my desktop with an adapter I had. I have a cat who loves to jump on stuff, and the 12 TB drive was in a precarious position at the time, so I just sat there and
[02:48] <arraybolt3[m]> watched it for what felt like forever.
[02:49] <jhutchins> I do seem to remember some schemes to break up large collections of files that exceeded the bash command buffer.
[02:49] <arraybolt3[m]> (I booted the laptop from a live USB if you're wondering how on earth I got dd on Windows 7.)
[02:50] <jhutchins> I used rsync, which was good since I had to restart several times.
[02:52] <arraybolt3[m]> jhutchins: Sounds like you're a bit of a data hoarder?
[03:42] <wez> jhutchins: Only if you use one filesystem for the entire drive.
[03:43] <wez> You split it into logical volumes
[03:43] <wez> jhutchins: Or use a proper FS that handles that type of stuff like ZFS
[04:14] <route-bee> hey people
[04:14] <arraybolt3[m]> Hey.
[04:15] <route-bee> I am trying to connect a printer to my ubuntu box via a direct cable connection
[04:16] <route-bee> if i set eth0 as a static <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:16] <route-bee> and set the printer as static on the same subnet
[04:16] <route-bee> it should work shouldnt it
[04:17] <route-bee> i would use the hotel wifi router but then everyone on the guest network could print to it
[04:20] <enigma9o7[m]> sure they could
[04:20] <enigma9o7[m]> you have enough trouble yourself printing to it
[04:20] <enigma9o7[m]> you think random hotel guests gunna figure it out?
[04:20] <route-bee> haha
[04:20] <route-bee> its simple to print on the wifi
[04:21] <BadAtom> let one of the random hotel guests figure it out, and tell you how they did it
[04:21] <route-bee> you are missing the point
[04:21] <route-bee> if i connect it to the wifi it is simple as
[04:21] <route-bee> it appears in network places
[04:22] <route-bee> its just connecting it directly to my pc with a network cable is a nightmare
[04:23] <BadAtom> nothing shows up when you try to add printer, or it shows up but doesn't connect?
[04:24] <route-bee> it shows up but doesnt connect
[04:27] <tripleb> OK I have a pdf in the web browser and oc I can save it. I want to have a program that will allow me to search on text. 20.04 --Please Recommend one. (Nothing overbearing like Libre-Office, please)
[04:33] <jaco> hi
[04:34] <route-bee> hello
[04:34] <arraybolt3[m]> tripleb: Does Evince not work? If so, maybe try Okular (though that will pull a bunch of KDE dependencies into your system).
[04:35] <luna> hey
[05:04] <route-bee> fixed it!
[06:55] <scortal1> hi
[06:55] <scortal1> is ubuntu suitable for commercial services
[06:55] <scortal1> ?
[06:57] <BadAtom>  canonical certainly thinks so, since it's running their commercial services
[07:11] <scortal1> BadAtom
[07:11] <scortal1> is XML suitable
[07:13] <scortal1> hi Terayon
[09:32] <arkanoid> I've just upgraded from 20.04 to 22.04, everything works nicely, but firefox went from apt to snap and now I've lost all saved passwords, bookmarks and stuff. Do you know if it's possible to import those?
[09:33] <arkanoid> on first run of snap version, the software asked me if I wanted to import stuff, but then it failed to find anything
[09:34] <arraybolt3[m]> arkanoid: Oy. Can you open your file manager, enable "Show hidden files", and see if a hidden Firefox folder exists in your home directory?
[09:34] <arkanoid> it's there. I have .mozilla/firefox
[09:34] <Bugies> arkanoid, run "firefox --ProfileManager" and select profile
[09:35] <gomboligo> arraybolt3[m]: installer crashes because "/target" is busy, presumably because the live session made a swapfile there before installing
[09:35] <gomboligo> arraybolt3[m]: what is the solution?
[09:35] <arraybolt3[m]> gomboligo: How did you install Ubuntu? Erase disk?
[09:36] <gomboligo> arraybolt3[m]: yeah
[09:36] <arkanoid> Bugies: by doing that, I can create/delete new profiles, not importing new one
[09:36] <arraybolt3[m]> gomboligo: That's odd. Can you afford to erase everything on the disk? I assume you've done so already.
[09:36] <arkanoid> maybe files are in $HOME/snap/firefox/common/.mozilla/firefox
[09:36] <arkanoid> ?
[09:36] <thyriaen> I want to run gtimelog but when starting it nothing happens and the cli gives "GSettings schema for org.gtimelog is missing" as an Error message
[09:37] <gomboligo> arraybolt3[m]: probably, but the installer crashes
[09:37] <vebdev> Hey folks. I am using Ubuntu 20.04 and I am trying to bluetooth connect my earphones and my keyboard simultaneously. But I can't connect them together. Only one at a time. I am using Blueman because without that my OnePlus Buds Z don't work as expected. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1354909/cant-connect-two-bluetooth-devices-at-the-same-time this answer doesn't work for me either.
[09:37] <vebdev>  Can you help?
[09:38] <arraybolt3[m]> gomboligo: OK. Open a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T.
[09:38] <gomboligo> arraybolt3[m]: did so
[09:38] <arraybolt3[m]> gomboligo: Now type "lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999" and send the link it spits out.
[09:39] <gomboligo> arraybolt3[m]: well the system doesn't have internet, but it says so in /var/log/syslog
[09:40] <arraybolt3[m]> OK. Then just do "lsblk" and figure out which drive is your main hard drive.
[09:40] <tomreyn> arkanoid: i think you should be able to just copy them there. make sure you stop all running copies of firefox first, though.
[09:40] <arraybolt3[m]> gomboligo: You'll see an ID code that looks something like "sda" or "nvme0n1" in the same row as your main drive, make a note of that code.
[09:41] <gomboligo> arraybolt3[m]: sorry, I have to do something for a little time, I'll be back
[09:41] <arraybolt3[m]> No problem.
[09:45] <Bugies> arkanoid, old profiles should be in  /home/$USER/.mozilla/firefox/
[09:46] <tomreyn> arkanoid: normally, the firefox snap pakcage should have migrated your existing firefox profile to the snap location on launch. it's unclear why this did not take place in your case.
[09:51] <tomreyn> arkanoid: the bottom post at https://askubuntu.com/a/1369903 shows what's printed to a terminal where the firefox snap is started from on first launch. maybe yuo had no default profile?
[09:52] <arkanoid> tomreyn: according to $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/profiles.ini, I have default profile
[09:53] <tomreyn> arkanoid: is this profile stored in a directory whose name ends in ".default" ?
[09:54] <arkanoid> and "snap run firefox" doesn't print those lines
[09:55] <arkanoid> tomreyn: I confirm the existence of a profile folder that ends with ".default" in $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/
[09:56] <tomreyn> arkanoid: hmm, well, maybe you could file a bug report against the firefox snap.
[10:00] <arkanoid> by manually moving the .mozilla folder it works
[10:00] <strk>  pulseaudio-module-jack : Depends: pulseaudio (= 1:15.99.1+dfsg1-1ubuntu1)
[10:00] <strk> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[10:00] <arkanoid> so yeah, I guess it's a bug in the snap package
[10:00] <strk> but `dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii` does not show any problem
[10:02] <tomreyn> strk: did you run    sudo apt update    before trying to install?
[10:02] <tomreyn> strk: which ubuntu version are you running?
[10:03] <strk> tomreyn: I did run `apt update` and I'm using pop-os 22.04 (jammy)
[10:03] <strk> Description:    Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS
[10:03] <Maik> strk: Pop OS isn't supported here
[10:03] <tomreyn> arkanoid: i'm glad the workaround works at least.
[10:03] <arkanoid> tomreyn: thanks for helping me out
[10:04] <tomreyn> you're welcome arkanoid
[10:04] <Maik> !popos | strk
[10:07] <vebdev> Does anyone know anything about connecting multiple bluetooth devices simultaneously in Ubuntu 20.04? Would really appreciate the help.
[10:07] <strk> funny that "popos" fact does not include PopOS in the examples section ... but thanks
[10:08] <tomreyn> strk: system76 support (incl. limited pop os support, from what i can tell) is at https://support.system76.com/
[10:11] <Maik> strk: yeah well, reading the channel topic is helpfull sometimes ;)
[10:11] <Maik> "Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: https://ubottu.com/y/gl | #ubuntu supports Ubuntu and official flavors; versions 18.04, 20.04, 21.10, 22.04 | Unofficial derivatives: use your distro's support channel, not here. |"
[10:12] <arraybolt3[m]> Maik: Fun fact, on the system I'm using right now, I can't even see the channel topic notice about unofficial derivatives unless I go out of my way to click it.
[10:12] <arraybolt3[m]> Maik: Oh, and every chat client I've used intentionally makes the channel topic less noticeable, and it works. Works well on me, anyway.
[10:16] <vebdev> exit
[10:21] <Maik> arraybolt3[m]: well, users see the channel topic upon entering the room. But i'll leave it at that and is offtopic here anyway.
[10:33] <transhumanist> Hi! Straight forward question this time. I installed netplan.io in my build root but it does not appear to have a root_fs/etc/netplan/00-install-config.yaml in its path. Is this not an auto installed config file? And I would be safe to just generate my own?
[10:36] <tomreyn> transhumanist: that should be fine. i think on ubuntu server it's initially created by cloud-init.
[10:37] <tomreyn> note there is also #netplan
[10:38] <transhumanist> ah thanks for the infor
[10:38] <transhumanist> info*
[11:11] <UbuntuAutist> Hi. I have a problem where my front USB ports make my WiFi adapter sometimes crack. When the plug the adapter in the rear USB ports directly connected to the motherboard, it works fine. Has anyone else ever experienced something like this?
[11:12] <UbuntuAutist> I mean sometimes make my WiFi adapter crash, not crack.
[11:14] <murmel> UbuntuAutist: is it crashing while in the front usb?
[11:14] <murmel> if yes, maybe the cable to those frontusb is not the best anymore
[11:14] <UbuntuAutist> murmel sometimes. And as soon as i put it in the rear USB ports which are directly on my motherboard, its fine.
[11:14] <UbuntuAutist> murmel! Yes, that's what I thought. I just wanted to rule out it being Ubuntu!
[11:14] <murmel> UbuntuAutist: sounds to me, that's a cable issue then.
[11:15] <murmel> UbuntuAutist: definitely not, as it's just a usb port as any other
[11:15] <UbuntuAutist> I was thinking perhaps there is a electricity suppy to the ports issue.
[11:15] <UbuntuAutist> Right, I see.
[11:15] <murmel> UbuntuAutist: could be, but that should still be a cable issue
[11:15] <jadenlian> if i change /etc owner to root  just so it requires a passwd    does it recreate any issues?
[11:15] <UbuntuAutist> My phone also sometimes won't charge from the front USB ports. Its a new phone with a beefy battery
[11:15] <murmel> as it's literally just splitting 1 usb port to 2
[11:16] <murmel> jadenlian: are you talking about /etc as the "folder" or the whole directory?
[11:16] <murmel> UbuntuAutist: sounds like that's an issue with your board then
[11:16] <murmel> are they maybe only usb2?
[11:16] <UbuntuAutist> jadenlian, apps that don't run as root who's settings are located in subfolders of /etc/ will probably fail.
[11:17] <jadenlian> murmel: ok
[11:17] <UbuntuAutist> murmel they are USB3, and funny enough, I had this same problem with my old computer.
[11:17] <jadenlian> ubuntuautist ok
[11:17] <UbuntuAutist> Thanks for your help murmel! :)
[11:18] <jadenlian> murmel: i thought it was just the folder
[11:18] <murmel> jadenlian: there are config files under /etc which do matter to non root programs
[11:18] <UbuntuAutist> jadenlian /etc/ is where all the programs settings are kept that are not user specific I believe.
[11:18] <jadenlian> murmel: i see
[11:18] <murmel> so /etc itself is owned by root, but below that there are config files which don't need to be under the owner of root
[11:19] <murmel> UbuntuAutist: you are correct sir
[11:19] <UbuntuAutist> Well, bye everyone! :)
[11:19] <jadenlian> ubuntuautist: yes
[11:20] <jadenlian> so i theres most likely issues with some program if i change the owner to root
[11:20] <jadenlian> so no way to put a passwd there  just trying things
[11:21] <ravage> jadenlian, dont mess with permissions if you dont have to. especially with default system folders
[11:21] <murmel> jadenlian: yes if you want to "hide" something you can change the permissions of individual files
[11:22] <murmel> there are quite a lot of people who have their samba password for example
[11:22] <jadenlian> murmel: ok
[11:23] <jadenlian> murmel: like i said just trying things but i dont really have to
[11:23] <murmel> so for example chmod 500 /file would change it that the owner can read write, but nobody else
[11:23] <murmel> jadenlian: hopefully you will be careful :) it's easy to break stuf
[11:23] <ravage> and hopefully you have a backup so we dont have to fix your experiments here later ;)
[11:24] <jadenlian> murmel: jajaj i hope so too cause im all over
[11:25] <jadenlian> ravage: oh yeah just last night i started backing everything  cause its getting serious
[11:26] <scortal1> ubuntu..
[11:27] <murmel> scortal1: linux..
[11:32] <Maik> scortal1: seriously... again? what part of stopping random words in support channel you don't understand?
[11:34] <murmel> ahh it's that guy :(
[11:34] <tomreyn> let's get back on topic
[11:42] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:02] <raub> Does anyone know why changes made in the xscreensaver control panel are not passed to ~/.xscreensaver?
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> raub: wich changes are you trying to make?
[12:13] <gomboligo> has anyone had a case of Ubuntu installing successfully
[12:13] <gomboligo> but even the grub doesn't boot at all?
[12:14] <murmel> gomboligo: depending on the uefi implementation, yes, I had a few pcs where i had to fiddle with it
[12:16] <arkanoid> congrats to the ubuntu team for turning a 2 click action on 20.04 to a 6 click action in 22.04 for screenshotting a portion of screen and pasting it
[12:17] <arkanoid> I'd guess it's gnome fault, not ubuntu
[12:17] <gomboligo> I don't think this one even has UEFI
[12:17] <gomboligo> murmel: how was it solved?
[12:17] <murmel> gomboligo: I had to tell the uefi, that grub is basically windows. but if you don't have uefi, something else goes wrong
[12:18] <tomreyn> arkanoid: if you have feedback to developers, here's not the place. also try to make it constructive when giving feedback to them.
[12:19] <arkanoid> sure, it's a small rant as I've jsut upgraded. I've been an UI programmer time ago, I can kinda understand what's going on
[12:19] <raub> lotuspsychje: Changing standby, suspend, off times amd text manipulation. Control panel lists changes but the file does not
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> raub: did you create an xscreensaver startup item after reboot?
[12:25] <raub> lotuspsychje: Nope. In fact I have not touched it this year as it worked fine when I installed ubuntu 20 last year in this desktop
[12:27] <raub> Something happened this month (after last few updates?), which confuses me as I see online reports of similar problems with lubuntu 12.10 and 19.10 (I am not running lubunti. but that is what I found)
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> raub: what i did after installing xscreensaver on recent ubuntu releases is adding the xscreensaver -no-splash and reboot, then install some extras and data from apt
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> (to startup items)
[12:27] <murmel> raub: are you sure about the version numbers?
[12:28] <raub> murmel: which version numbers?
[12:29] <raub> lotuspsychje: Let me check statup items then
[12:30] <murmel> raub you typed: lubuntu 12.10 and 19.10
[12:30] <raub> murmel: Oh I see. Here are the URLs in question: https://askubuntu.com/questions/232084/xscreensaver-does-not-turn-monitor-off-in-lubuntu and https://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/comments/fv3j0p/lubuntu_1910_xscreensaver_blank_screen_not/
[12:33] <gomboligo> Device for boot loader installation
[12:33] <gomboligo> this one is so tricky and never works
[12:33] <gomboligo> what should I choose?
[12:34] <tomreyn> if uefi, it does not matter
[12:34] <murmel> gomboligo: I guess first you would need to figure out if you are on a uefi or legacy device
[12:35] <gomboligo> legacy
[12:35] <murmel> so verify which sdX device your harddrive is and install it to that
[12:36] <gomboligo> but it asks for efi partition
[12:36] <gomboligo> situation is: bios settings have nothing about uefi
[12:36] <tomreyn> so you're installing in uefi mode
[12:36] <raub> lotuspsychje: According to gnome-session-properties I do not have it added to the list of "additional" startup programs, so it comes on in another way
[12:36] <murmel> gomboligo: if the installer asks for uefi, then you booted in efi mode
[12:37] <gomboligo> so sdX always works?
[12:37] <raub> systemctl --all list-unit-files --type=service|grep screen also does not list it
[12:37] <tomreyn> gomboligo: bug 1396379
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> raub: its not in systemd services, but in gnomes startup items you need to create one yourself
[12:38] <raub> lotuspsychje: FYI, it does run (sort of, it stopped turning the screen off, which is what I am trying to debug)
[12:39] <gomboligo> murmel: does sdX always work?
[12:39] <gomboligo> murmel: should I select the EFI thing instead?
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> raub: try adding it and rebooting first
[12:40] <murmel> gomboligo: no it doesn't. does 'ls /sys/firmware/efi/' give you some output?
[12:41] <gomboligo> tomreyn: so that is not fixed and it makes no difference?
[12:43] <EriC^^> gomboligo: select the disk itself, not the partition
[12:44] <tomreyn> gomboligo: <tomreyn> if uefi, it does not matter
[12:47] <gomboligo> murmel: no such file or directory
[12:47] <gomboligo> perhaps it is bios, but the installer is somehow crazy thinking it is UEFI?
[12:49] <tomreyn> if you want to verify how you booted: press ctrl-alt-t, then type this in the terminal window which opens: echo -n 'This system booted via: '; [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[12:50] <tomreyn> or just:   [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[12:51] <ioria> gomboligo, also, how did you burn the iso ?
[12:54] <gomboligo>  /sys/firmware/efi doesn't exist
[12:54] <gomboligo> but ubiquity asked for efi partition
[12:54] <shibboleth> tomreyn, bootctl
[12:58] <raub> lotuspsychje: rebooted. Control panel and ~/.xscreensaver still do not match. I wonder if there is another, global file it is editing.
[12:58] <tomreyn> shibboleth: good idea, thanks
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> raub: my xscreensaver conf seems to work fine
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> raub: did ubuntu ask you something about a screensaver deamon?
[12:59] <raub> nope
[13:02] <tomreyn> raub: which ubuntu flavor and version are you using?
[13:05] <raub> tomreyn: Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS
[13:06] <tomreyn> raub: oh, and which desktop environment?
[13:07] <tomreyn> i'm not sure that xscreensaver would be a good match with gnome-shell
[13:07] <raub> LXDE
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> it does tomreyn
[13:08] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: it works for screen locking and doesn't get in the way with logind?
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> im running xscreensaver fine on both focal & jammy
[13:08] <tomreyn> okay, i rest my case ;)
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> set on 1min to take screensaver on
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> even on wayland running like a charm
[13:10] <tomreyn> raub: lxde only got community support these days, and none of the flaros use it.
[13:10] <tomreyn> * flavors
[13:11] <raub> wayland and gnome are rather heavyweights
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> by the way ubuntu with lxqt got xscreensaver installed/running by default these days
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> lubuntu sorry
[14:22] <johnjaye> where can I look up what the installer script does from apt when reinstalling grub?
[14:23] <johnjaye> for some reason grub failed to boot into ubuntu but doing "apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64" repaired it
[14:30] <oerheks> dpkg.log ?
[14:31] <murmel> johnjaye: sounds almost like grub-install ... fixed your issue ;)
[14:40] <johnjaye> right. but i'm not sure how to invoke it
[14:41] <johnjaye> all the examples online are about booting the live cd and then chrooting in to do it
[14:41] <murmel> johnjaye: yes, that's the way to go (yes, it's rather complicated)
[14:42] <oerheks> Interesting, why do you wonder?
[14:42] <johnjaye> well. but can i just invoke it directly while booted into the system?
[14:42] <murmel> johnjaye:
[14:42] <murmel> yes
[14:42] <murmel> if you can boot into it ;)
[14:42] <johnjaye> that must have been what it did. ok.
[14:42] <oerheks> No.
[14:43] <johnjaye> lol i see
[14:43] <oerheks> i think that module was not installed, for some reason
[14:45] <strk> can you think of a way to inspect the colors shown on a terminal ? I'm under screen(1) if that may help
[14:48] <oerheks> explain ' inspect'  ?
[14:48] <oerheks> maybe pop-os does something weird with your terminal
[14:54] <Maik> strk: everything you ask is PopOS related so it's best to turn to their support forum
[14:55] <Maik> or try asking in #linux
[15:02] <MagicFab> Hi I need some help. An email with porn was sent to our Loco team mailing list. Is there any way to remove its thread from the ML archives ? Not sure who to contact, I haven't connected here for a while.
[15:03] <strk> MagicFab: or install ubuntu :)
[15:03] <strk> I just tried popos randomly
[15:03] <murmel> strk: so why are you not in their support channel then>?
[15:04] <MagicFab> murmel: which channel ?
[15:04] <strk> right, doesn't look like there's an IRC channel (or there's a #popos but with a single nick in there, and no topic)
[15:04] <murmel> !popos
[15:05] <Maik> MagicFab: that wasn't tailored at you
[15:05] <oerheks> they are with #system76 ?
[15:05] <oerheks> MagicFab, any administrator can edit the message
[15:06] <oerheks> but undoing the sended mail, nope
[15:06] <Maik> murmel: strk knows about that since he was notified with the same message earlier today
[15:07] <strk> yep, it looks like #system76 exists and is populated, if any admin could add that to the bot fact it would be helpful
[15:07] <murmel> strk: they have mattermost or matrix channels (mattermost at chat.pop-os.org)
[15:08] <oerheks> strk, added, but i am not a bot
[15:09] <MagicFab> oerheks: I haven't logged in the admin panel for a ML for a while, but never seen option to delete from the archive there. Regarding "un-sending", yeah, I know ! :|
[15:09] <MagicFab> oerheks: tx.
[15:11] <strk> oerheks: did I say you were ?
[15:11] <strk> (thanks!)
[15:15] <jhutchins> MagicFab: Did you say what mailing list manager you're using?
[15:18] <bhuban> why i cant see my integrated graphics (amd) information in my laptop? I am using ubuntu 20.04.
[16:24] <hid3> Greetings. Is there any way to get certain service uptime in seconds from systemd?
[16:29] <oerheks> sudo systemctl status <service> | grep Active
[17:39] <oerheks> Don’t Forget: Ubuntu 21.10 Support Ends on July 14, 2022
[17:39] <lotuspsychje_> and see !upgrade : )
[17:40] <oerheks> Support for Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger, 3rd release) ended 5545 days ago
[17:43] <dc> Hi guys. I am running 20.04, my monitor was working one week, the next it wasn't. I've some other cables. It's possible some updates ran which broke it - but im not sure. Any ideas on how to debug this further? Of course I have tried some of the options on stackoverflow
[17:43] <lotuspsychje_> dc: wich ubuntu release are you on?
[17:43] <dc> I've tried re-installing the nvidia drivers, and im just trying to remove them and reboot to see what happens. No luck so far
[17:43] <dc> 20.04 LTS
[17:43] <lotuspsychje_> dc: tell us at wich stage your screen goes off?
[17:44] <dc> it does not come on lotuspsychje_
[17:44] <enigma9o7[m]> What version nvidia driver?
[17:44] <dc> It says "No video input" throughout
[17:44] <lotuspsychje_> dc: post boot or grub either?
[17:44] <dc> lotuspsychje_: i have no way of knowing as i can't physically see anything on mys creen from this machine
[17:45] <dc> enigma9o7[m]: how am i able to give you nvidia driver version on cli
[17:45] <enigma9o7[m]> inxi -G
[17:46] <enigma9o7[m]> but if it wasnt nvidia-340 then my idea isnt it anyway
[17:46] <dc> i think i messed up uninstalling the nvidia drivers
[17:46] <enigma9o7[m]> But if the screen isnt on for BIOS/POST stuff, then its not an OS problem.
[17:47] <dc> because i ran the re-install instructions and it's not reinstalling them
[17:47] <enigma9o7[m]> Its a broken monitor or perhaps computer.
[17:47] <dc> I don;t have another monitor to test unfortunately, but the other port on the monitor works ifne
[17:47] <dc> enigma9o7[m]: yep, i guess you are right if i dont see BIOS/POST
[17:48] <dc> dont think i have hdmi to displayport lying around to see if it's the port hm
[17:48] <ioria> dc, is that a desktop pc, right ?
[17:48] <dc> yeah
[17:49] <ioria> dc, dedicated nvidia card ?
[17:49] <dc> yeah
[17:49] <ioria> dc, remove it
[17:49] <dc> oh shit, i think that might be why :D
[17:49] <dc> i plugged it on the onboard
[17:49] <dc> i moved the computer, completely forgot
[17:49] <ioria> lol
[17:50] <enigma9o7[m]> doh
[17:50] <ioria> integrated is automatically disabled when you have plugged a dedicated card
[17:50] <dc> can you help me reinstall the drivers before i test this hypothesis
[17:50] <dc> https://askubuntu.com/a/1099736
[17:50] <dc> i used these instructions earlier, then ran the purge again a bit later, and now it's not reinstalling as far as i can see
[17:51] <ioria> that's for the ppa.... but first plug correctly the cable
[17:51] <dc> ok one moment
[17:53] <ioria> on 20.04 i don't think (in general) you need that ppa anmore
[17:53] <dc> yeah now it works lmao.
[17:53] <ioria> *anymore
[17:53] <dc> feel like such an idipt. i never use this monitor unless im photo editing... so when i moved it i completely forgot i had a dedicated card :D
[17:54] <ioria> no, it's a common mistake
[17:55] <dc> resolution looks good so i think the nvidia graphics are there
[17:55] <dc> or at least im satisfied for now
[17:55] <dc> thank you for the rubber ducking ioria
[17:55] <ioria> no prob
[17:56] <dc> checking out now, bfn!
[19:40] <brkcore> nobody talks in the channel videolan, does anyone knows how to save equaliser settings in the preset menu of the VLC? Since upgraded to ubuntu22.04 and VLC version is 3.0.16 ... i cant find any options to do that
[20:06] <janisozaur> hi, will ubuntu impish update gcc to 11.3 or is it locked to 11.2 forever?
[20:07] <oerheks> i guess so, support ends juli 14
[20:10] <Pruners> I can't figure out where applications actually reside in Ubuntu.   There are the applications of course, but I don't think the applications are actually there, I think those are more like aliases, aren't they?
[20:11] <arraybolt3[m]> Pruners: Generally you shouldn't need to mess with the guts of your application stuff, apt and snap do that for you. But if you're interested, the majority of your application's executable files are hanging out in /usr/bin.
[20:12] <tomreyn> !fhs | Pruners
[20:12] <oerheks>  /bin/  /usr/bin /sbin/ /usr/sbin/  and user settings in your ~ /home folder
[20:13] <tomreyn> Pruners: i fyou tell us why you're asking, we may be able to help you prevent mistakes by providing more info.
[20:13] <oerheks> and there are snaps..
[20:14] <Hash> 22.04, it just randomly reboots the whole system
[20:14] <Hash> if you mouse move, or click here and there
[20:14] <Hash> So far it has happened twice
[20:14] <oerheks> random reboots.. do a memtest86 run
[20:14] <Hash> was fine for a year
[20:14] <Hash> i can try
[20:14] <Hash> I ahve 64gb ram
[20:14] <Hash> laready teasted last year
[20:15] <Hash> happened twice in 1 year
[20:15] <Hash> didn't happen on 20.04
[20:15] <Hash> only 22
[20:15] <Hash> same machine
[20:15] <oerheks> please, hit enter more..
[20:15] <Hash> welcome to ignore
[20:17] <tomreyn> whats in your systemd journal before it rebooted?
[20:17] <Hash> checking now
[20:27] <Pruners> I have a useful text application named "Left", which came down into my Downloads folder.  The application runs fine from that Downloads folder, but I do not normally run applications from my Downloads folder and would prefer the application in a proper folder for an application.  But if its a hassle to move it, I can leave it right there.
[20:28] <ravage> .local/bin for example
[20:28] <oerheks> any folder that is in your Path is oke..
[20:29] <tomreyn> echo $PATH
[20:30] <tomreyn> mv ~/Downloads/Left ~/.local/bin/
[20:30] <enigma9o7[m]> ~/.local/bin is probably best, but also if you create ~/bin then reboot it'll be in your path
[20:30] <tomreyn> ls ~/.local/bin/Left
[20:30] <geirha> it's the same with .local/bin, it only gets added to PATH during login if it already exists
[20:31] <geirha> a misfeature
[20:32] <enigma9o7[m]> misfeature?
[20:32] <Pruners> misfeature is an interesting word
[20:33] <geirha> yes, first time you install something in .local/bin it won't work. Confusing newbies
[20:34] <geirha> should just add it to PATH unconditionally instead
[20:36] <enigma9o7[m]> The downside being, it'd be slightly slower every command you entered.
[20:36] <enigma9o7[m]> slower than it needs to be
[21:03] <Psil0Cybin> okay guys i have to go be back later
[21:03] <Psil0Cybin> ciao
[21:25] <Jason> hello everyone
[21:31] <tomreyn> hi Jason
[21:32] <Jason> hi tomreyn
[22:06] <quackgyver> Software Center is telling me to update Firefox but when I press the "Update"-button it just says "Unable to update firefox: snap has no updates available"
[22:07] <quackgyver> Also, I'm searching for "PulseAudio Volume Control" in the software center and it's showing me not one, but two entries.
[22:07] <ravage> quackgyver, if "sudo snap refresh firefox" tells you the same then ignore the message
[22:08] <quackgyver> It says "snap "firefox" has no updates available"
[22:10] <quackgyver> Also, I have bluetooth headphones connected, but they're not actually being recognized as an output device.
[22:10] <quackgyver> It only does if I restart the PC.
[22:10] <quackgyver> This keeps happening, and it's extremely frustrating.
[22:22] <jhutchins> quackgyver: What have you done to troubleshoot it?
[22:22] <quackgyver> Which of the problems?
[22:25] <arraybolt3[m]> quackgyver: Open a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T, then try "sudo snap refresh firefox".
[22:25] <enigma9o7[m]> Is it not normal to see both the snap version and the version from your distro?
[22:25] <oerheks> pkill firefox && sudo snap refresh firefox
[22:26] <enigma9o7[m]> (re: pavu)
[22:26] <quackgyver> arraybolt3[m]: Yeah that's what I did when I got "snap "firefox" has no updates available"
[22:26] <quackgyver> oerheks: Same message with your command as well.
[22:26] <mybalzitch> dunno why canonical couldn't link "update" to "refresh"
[22:27] <oerheks> maybe you had a kernel update unattended, and need a reboot?
[22:27] <oerheks> if /var/run/reboot-required exists..
[23:23] <Hash> ubuntu-drivers devices
[23:24] <Hash> gives me blank output
[23:24] <Hash> I'm trying to find out how to install binary nvidia driver for 22.04 for gtx 275
[23:24] <Hash> 08:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT200b [GeForce GTX 275] (rev a1) <- what driver version do I need. The cli program doesn't tell me
[23:26] <tomreyn> Hash: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/legacy-gpu/
[23:26] <Hash> i need 340
[23:27] <oerheks> yes, legacy 340 , use the driver ppa https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=jammy
[23:27] <oerheks> oh its gone
[23:28] <Hash> that's not in 22.04 apparently
[23:28] <Hash> it st arts with 390 on wards
[23:29] <oerheks> hmm sourve is there .. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-340
[23:29] <Hash> How do I get nvidia 340 driver in 22.04?
[23:31] <oerheks> the 340 package triggers nouveau
[23:31] <oerheks> so be it
[23:33] <tomreyn> nvidia-graphics-drivers-340 (340.108-0ubuntu8): "Drop support for the 340 driver, in favour of the nouveau driver since it is no longer supported by NVIDIA: https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/~/support-timeframes-for-unix-legacy-gpu-releases "   -- Alberto Milone <email address hidden>  Wed, 10 Mar 2021 17:18:43 +0100
[23:33] <Hash> support doesn't matter to me, performance does.. nov. is slow and nvidia is faster performance.
[23:34] <Hash> So ubuntu forcing me to use nov? I don't like that.
[23:34] <oerheks> that ancient card .. i wonder if building 340 gives any benefit
[23:36] <tomreyn> not forcing you to (not) do anything, you could install an older version and pray it doesn't have security bugs and is still compatible.
[23:53] <cbreak> or get a newer GPU? There must be tones of faster ones that are basically free because they're also ancient.
[23:54] <cbreak> or download the binary drivers directly from nvidia. For example, cuda .deb also ships with drivers.
[23:59] <Hash> yeah tried all that
[23:59] <Hash> can't seem to build nvidia driver
[23:59] <Hash> oh well. looks like ubuntu won't be my distro anymore.


[00:37] <cps1966> hey just ask here doug
[00:38] <doug_> Hello... Just installed a new MS Webcam. I cannot get the built in mic to work. suggestions?
[00:38] <doug_> I am new to Xubuntu
[00:45] <GridCube> doug_, check with pavucontrol
[00:48] <doug_> installing that now thanks
[00:57] <doug_> it sees the mic in pavucontrol... it works for a few seconds then the whole camera disconnects
[04:06] <D-Spair> Hi all... I updated my kernel this morning and now my KVM virtual machines will only run as QEMU without KVM... And they are slower than mollasses!!!
[04:06] <D-Spair> Any idea what I can check?
[04:22] <snake4101> hola a todos..!!!
[04:38] <D-Spair> Found the problem... They apparently broke KVM in the "generic" kernel for version 3.0.0-17, but the "server" kernel works fine.
[07:22] <JadedJacob> Hi
[07:22] <JadedJacob> I haven't used xubuntu in about 3 years :) What have I missed
[07:28] <TheSheep> unity
[07:28] <TheSheep> jk
[07:28] <JadedJacob> hehe
[07:31] <JadedJacob> just loading up xubuntu 11.10 in VM right now
[09:49] <mormaugus> hi everyone! it's that a support channel?
[09:52] <Myrtti> yeah
[09:52] <mormaugus> oh, nice, because i have a little bug/problem with my xubuntu 11.10
[09:53] <mormaugus> after GRUB menu, there is no the animated boot screen on xubuntu, only black screen, the system booting normal after that
[09:56] <knome> probably it's either that 1) the pc is so fast that it doesn't have time to show the screen or 2) some issues with the graphics card
[09:57] <knome> if it works though... it's not a very high priority fix
[09:57] <knome> i mean works in the broader sense, eg. doesn't get stuck
[09:57] <mormaugus> hmmm, i think it's 2, but after fresh install there is no any problems with that
[09:58] <knome> mmh. maybe you installed some hardware driver or so?
[09:58] <mormaugus> that screen it's showing for 1-2 seconds before login screen(without any animation, only static screen)
[10:02] <Myrtti> then I'm inclined to think 1)
[10:04] <mormaugus> lol...intel core duo 2,1 and 3GB of RAM. It's really so fast for xubuntu?
[10:10] <Myrtti> I've heard that Ubuntu boots to login prompt within 2-5 seconds if you've got SDD
[10:14] <Wulong> Myrtti: not true, not on my system.
[10:15] <Myrtti> Wulong: depending on the system and what you have loading with it, of course
[10:19] <mormaugus> it's not something big trouble, just wondering why doesn't load correct.
[10:58] <lokinou> Hi, I'm recovering from a heavily infected computer (ZeroAcess rootkit on windows). I burned the linux live cd on my (other) linux partition, checked md5 before burning... and now I removed partition table and making a fresh install. Do you think I still have chances to get infected ?
[10:59] <Myrtti> if you are planning to stay with ubuntu instead of windows, the chances are considerably smaller
[10:59] <Myrtti> but not non-existant
[10:59] <lokinou> I plan to put linux in a virtualbox
[10:59] <lokinou> *windows
[11:00] <TVasEyes> lokinou: good plan.
[11:00] <lokinou> so virus will play in the sandbox... anyway is there a free good protection against viruses in Linux ?
[11:01] <Myrtti> the general consensus is that if you don't run a fileserver that is used by Windows, or if you don't run several server software that you don't keep up to date, you don't necessarily need an antivirus
[11:01] <Myrtti> I'd still do a rootkit checkup now and then
[11:01] <lokinou> this rootkit was reqally nasty
[11:02] <lokinou> could be detected by Malwarebytes anti malware
[11:02] <Myrtti> there's chkrootkit and rkhunter for that job
[11:02] <lokinou> ok super I write it down
[11:02] <Myrtti> available from the software center/package management
[11:02] <lokinou> I runned the Kaspersky recovery live cd full scan (+updtates)
[11:03] <lokinou> runned again emisoft on linux
[11:03] <lokinou> removed something like 20 trojans and backdoor and rootkit
[11:03] <lokinou> but ZeroAccess still there
[11:03] <lokinou> managed to remove with combofix
[11:04] <lokinou> but your windows is a bit like braindead after that
[11:04] <lokinou> i just decided to cry in linux warm arms, and never go back to windows
[11:04] <lokinou> thanks for your support
[11:05] <lokinou> Install done I reboot
[14:48] <Valter_junglist> Hello
[14:48] <Valter_junglist> Как розумно поставить на xubuntu compiz
[14:49] <bazhang> !ru | Valter_junglist
[15:32] <foobArrr> how do I configure my printers in xubuntu? set default printer and so on
[15:33] <foobArrr> nevermind
[16:40] <jarnos> Flash is not working in 11.04 after update :(
[16:44] <bazhang> the 8k update?
[16:51] <meerkats> is there a xubuntu+1?
[16:52] <meerkats> will there be a xubuntu 12.04 64 bits in a motnh time? If I choose xubuntu, will I still be able to use libreoffice?
[16:55] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that
[16:55] <bazhang> and yes there will be
[16:57] <meerkats> o bazhang
[16:57] <bazhang> ?
[16:57] <meerkats> nothing
[16:57] <bazhang> so why highlight me
[16:58] <meerkats> it surprised me to see you around here too
[16:58] <jarnos> meerkats, there are download links for the development iso files: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker
[17:01] <meerkats> jarnos, im still trying to fix my ubuntu 11.10,
[18:34] <jarnos> Anybody else have inability to use Adobe Flash
[18:36] <bazhang> after the 8kb update?
[18:39] <jarnos> bazhang, after some update; I don't know how many kbs.
[18:39] <TVasEyes> jarnos: won't removing, then installing the package solve the problem? (I've not upgraded yet, so, guessing)
[18:40] <bazhang> jarnos, no, just a single one. 8kb for flash and flash alone. came today
[18:41] <jarnos> bazhang, yes I updated today.
[18:41] <bazhang> a simple apt-get update and apt-get upgrade would let you see
[18:41] <bazhang> what version of flash
[18:43] <jarnos> bazhang, <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[18:45] <bazhang> <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[18:49] <jarnos> bazhang, yes, I am using xubuntu 11.04
[18:51] <bazhang> thats odd. a restart of FF and all was well
[18:51] <jarnos> TVasEyes, "sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer" did not help.
[18:53] <TVasEyes> jarnos: untried, but I'do "apt-get remove PKG ; apt-get -f install PKG".  anyway, good luck, interweb w/out flash is useless.
[19:05] <jarnos> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/968504
[19:09] <nikolam> Uh, I updated today but did not start browser today yet. I will try it on 10.04.
[19:10] <forestpiskie> works in 12.04 - though I use f/fox
[19:11] <nikolam> Youtube seems to work for me in 10.04 64bit
[19:12] <nikolam> with FFox
[21:21] <valemon> hello, I am having a problem with video playback
[21:21] <valemon> I see horizontal lines
[21:22] <valemon> especially when there is quick changing of frames
[21:26] <valemon> I have already installed nvidia proprietary drivers
[21:26] <valemon> could anyone help me with that?
[22:10] <xubuntu612> phew. looking forward to xubuntu. Default ubuntu environment hurts my brain.