[14:12] <asfasf> is there anywhere that I can get a list of the lastest linux distro torrents
[14:12] <daftykins> lionrouge: more likely than...?
[14:12] <torezzz> i see that wiki, but it not helps...
[14:12] <asfasf> or auto download latest versions
[14:12] <kdeuser56> TJ-: so my idea is: I am preparing the partitions using  "d-i partman/early_command string "
[14:12] <torezzz> i need some tutorial on how to setup vpn client in ubuntu vps
[14:12] <asfasf> i have a seedbox with a ton of bandwidth that i dont use, may aswell put it to good use
[14:13] <torezzz> google gives nothing :/
[14:13] <daftykins> !vpn
[14:13] <bekks> torezzz: First google result: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[14:13] <torezzz> that not helps...
[14:13] <bekks> torezzz: Because...?
[14:13] <daftykins> torezzz: well, it's all we've got :)
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> asfasf: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[14:14] <kdeuser56> TJ-, lotuspsychje: I am working towards full automation, using qemu for install. When I am done I will provide you with the scripts, given you are online in the next few weeks. Thanks very much for your input!
[14:14] <torezzz> because i got disconnected from VPS when i connect to VPN
[14:14] <bekks> torezzz: Thats expected.
[14:14] <SchrodingersScat> torezzz: maybe because then your connection is adding the vpn hop?
[14:14] <daftykins> torezzz: yeah that's pretty standard, i was about to say you'd have trouble with that
[14:14] <bekks> torezzz: Either you connect to the vpn, or you dont. You cannot select on a per host-basis.
[14:14] <torezzz> yes, i need to use TAP device
[14:15] <asfasf> lotuspsychje: i was looking more for more or less all the distros and some way of getting notified when a new version is available
[14:15] <torezzz> bekks: its possible, but i don't know how to configure TUN/TAP and iptables
[14:16] <torezzz> need some text about this
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> asfasf: not really an ubuntu question, but distrowatch
[14:16] <bekks> torezzz: you dont have to configure tap/zun/iptables, but you have to configure your vpn accordingly.
[14:16] <kdeuser56> TJ-, lotuspsychje: thanks very much for your help, c ya!
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> kdeuser56: cheers
[14:16] <neutralizer> can I put textbox on ubuntu menu bar (~60px bar at the top)?
[14:17] <asfasf> lotuspsychje: thats what i was looking for thanks
[14:17] <OerHeks> asfasf, you are free to seed all these http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[14:17] <torezzz> bekks: can you tell more what i need to configure ? or where i can read about it ?
[14:17] <torezzz> on google i found only where they speaking about vpn server configuration
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: wow nice list tnx!
[14:18] <asfasf> OerHeks: is there anyway to download tem all at once?
[14:19] <OerHeks> asfasf, sure, download all the(current)  torrents
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> asfasf: you wanna download 382 iso at once lol
[14:19] <hellyeah> i am sure now about this
[14:19] <phirex> I am trying to upgrade a broken ubuntu installation from 13.** to 14.04... but it seems like it hangs a long time on "Saving installed packages"
[14:19] <daftykins> phirex: you made some progress since yesterday?
[14:19] <phirex> I am just wondering if i should wait or i should try a different approach
[14:19] <asfasf> lotuspsychje: well at least get the torrent files all at once and the queue them
[14:20] <phirex> daftykins: Yes :)
[14:20] <hellyeah> my system was frozen several times i need to close my computer from power button and problem just went away when i install nvidia properity driver, everything seems fine yay !
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> phirex: would be more handy to clean install 14.04 maybe?
[14:20] <phirex> daftykins: the first thread you pointed me to was the solution...
[14:20] <daftykins> phirex: ah excellent, the kind of conversion to ext2 followed by recovery?
[14:20] <asfasf> lotuspsychje: rather than have do download each torrent file individually
[14:20] <bekks> torezzz: in the article given.
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> asfasf: good luck seeding!
[14:20] <neutralizer> so I am interested to write a plugin for ubuntu which will put textbox in the menu bar at the top. is it possible? or it's just for icons
[14:21] <phirex> lotuspsychje: thats probably my next option, just gave it a try as i liked my old installation :<
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | OerHeks
[14:21] <phirex> daftykins: that.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1245536&p=7822694#post7822694
[14:21] <phirex> that was the first link you pointed out i dont know why we didnt try it at all :/
[14:22] <phirex> anyway i just backed up my files
[14:22] <phirex> is there a possibility i need to run ubuntu installation as root?
[14:22] <daftykins> phirex: well i was getting to it but i didn't trust that it wouldn't hose it completely so i wanted you to image the drive first, but sure if you took the risk and it's all good, that's lucky :D
[14:22] <daftykins> phirex: given what i saw of your hard disk partitions, i would recommend you backup all your data to that external drive, then clean format with 14.04
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> neutralizer: there are many indicators for ubuntu: google text indicator ubuntu
[14:23] <phirex> daftykins: yeah i guess you are right
[14:23] <daftykins> phirex: having followed that guide, your partitions are in an even worse state now too
[14:23] <fish47> Hi everyone, how can I trace the matching rules of fontconfig? Thanks.
[14:23] <phirex> daftykins: i cant seem to shut down the installer
[14:24] <phirex> daftykins: Should i just kill it? :/
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> neutralizer: what kind of text you want there?
[14:24] <dan2003> hi, how can i remove all of gtk and associated gui bloat witout it trying to install kde?  if i do apt-get purge libgtk-3-0 libgtk2.0-0, it says it going to install a load of kde stuff,
[14:24] <dan2003> i dont seem t have any top level desktop things installed anymnore
[14:24] <dan2003> and taskel is set to opsenssh server
[14:24] <daftykins> phirex: did you boot 14.04 from USB and try a clean install by nuking the disk? (I call it the Ripley approach (Alien)) i'd advise it
[14:24] <dan2003> but i still have a whole system full of gui related stuff
[14:25] <phirex> daftykins: well i just tried an upgrade and its hanging on "saving installed packages" i want to cancel it but cant
[14:26] <AlexPortable> Why can't i conenct to remote desktop on ubuntu?
[14:26] <daftykins> phirex: boot your liveUSB to 'try' mode then mount the hard disk inside and the external, then copy and paste your data over to backup, then nuke + install afresh
[14:26] <AlexPortable> using androidvnc, i get this eror: vnc connection failed! server did not offer supported security ype
[14:26] <AlexPortable> type
[14:26] <AlexPortable> how can i set the security type?
[14:26] <phirex> daftykins: already backed up....
[14:27] <daftykins> \o/
[14:27] <daftykins> reboot, rerun install and nuke that disk :)
[14:29] <keemel> Hello! How can I install Ubuntu from a hard disk running Windows 7? Thanks
[14:29] <bekks> keemel: Burn the Ubuntu ISO, boot it.
[14:29] <daftykins> keemel: what do you mean? you ideally need to make up a DVD or flash drive with the ISO written to
[14:29] <phirex> daftykins: Thanks! will be back in a bit (hopefully) :)
[14:29] <penncil> I want to put ubuntu 12 on a cd over my cable connection.  Do I need a network installer or the bit torrent.  ??
[14:30] <AlexPortable> nvm i got it working
[14:30] <AlexPortable> but now i only see the bckground
[14:30] <AlexPortable> standard ubuntu background
[14:30] <keemel> bekks, daftykins: I cannot use USB or DVD. I need to modify's Windows grub equivalent so I can boot up Ubuntu
[14:30] <keemel> modify Windows' *
[14:30] <AlexPortable> anyone?
[14:30] <bekks> keemel: thats not possible.
[14:30] <daftykins> keemel: that's... a really bad idea even if it could work
[14:31] <torezzz> anyone can point me to right direction, how to setup VPN on VPS ?
[14:31] <bekks> !vpn | torezzz
[14:31] <daftykins> penncil: bit odd to choose 12 at this point in time, but... your only hope for a CD-R is using the mini.iso and to network install
[14:31] <keemel> daftykins: well Ubuntu sources should be loaded entirely in the RAM, that should do
[14:31] <torezzz> I read that all, there is no solution
[14:31] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable possibly a result of using EndOfLife 10.04 ...
[14:31] <torezzz> this only works on regular linux
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> keemel: why cant you use usb?
[14:32] <torezzz> but not in vps
[14:32] <daftykins> keemel: no
[14:32] <jackarius86> hi, after uninstalling fglrx and rebooting, my screen appears much sharper and direct rendering seems to be enabled, is this normal, and am i now set up, graphics wise?
[14:32] <bekks> keemel: But you cant boot an Ubuntu installer from Windows. Thats why you need a USB or DVD or network install.
[14:32] <bekks> torezzz: It applies for VPS too.
[14:32] <penncil> Thank you
[14:32] <AlexPortable> cfhowlett: that's funny. this is 14.04
[14:32] <keemel> lotuspsychje, daftykind, bekks: I have an old BIOS and it only supports USB-ZIP. When I boot it, i get a loop saying "Loading Ubuntu etc"
[14:32] <torezzz> bekks:but why i get disconnected from vps, when i do this ?
[14:33] <torezzz> what i need to change ?
[14:33] <AlexPortable> cfhowlett: i didnt know that end of life of 10.04 would affect my 14.04 installaton
[14:33] <bekks> torezzz: I already told you.
[14:33] <daftykins> keemel: so no blank DVDs?
[14:33] <bekks> torezzz: you need to configure your vpn routing accordingly to your desires.
[14:33] <daftykins> keemel: if it's that old i'm amazed you run win7 :P
[14:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko> is there a simple way to reduce animations on ubuntu
[14:34] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am using it through hyper-v and it is really slowing things down
[14:34] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable didn't know you had upgraded
[14:34] <ubuntuupgrade> Hello
[14:34] <daftykins> ToAruShiroiNeko: don't use unity
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> keemel: make a plop boot manager cd and you will be able to start usb
[14:34] <ubuntuupgrade> one can upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 to  14.04 without any problem?
[14:34] <ubuntuupgrade> or it is better to do a new install?
[14:34] <ToAruShiroiNeko> how do I do that? I am very new to ubuntu
[14:34] <AlexPortable> cfhowlett: i haven't
[14:34] <AlexPortable> this is my pc
[14:34] <AlexPortable> the 10.04 is my parents pc
[14:34] <daftykins> ubuntuupgrade: err, only when 14.04.1 gets announced, i've not heard if it has yet
[14:34] <keemel> daftykins: well, not so old, like 2006. I can install Win7 from USB, but not Linux. First of all, I had to use BOOTICE so I can set the USB MBR to USB-ZIP to get recognized at boot, but I end up in that fucking loop
[14:35] <bekks> keemel: thats very old, 8 years.
[14:35] <daftykins> AlexPortable: his point is you can't just wait some time and ask again expecting us to forget :)
[14:35] <daftykins> keemel: ok, try and keep the language family friendly please
[14:35] <AlexPortable> so i only have 1 pc?
[14:35] <AlexPortable> just 1 pc with 10.04 and no smartphones or tablets or desktops or laptops?
[14:35] <keemel> lotuspsychje: thanks for the idea, used plop before, but I don't have a CD/DVD ROM. I wish I had a floppy right now ..
[14:35] <AlexPortable> anyway,
[14:35] <ubuntuupgrade> daftykins sudo update-manager -d
[14:36] <AlexPortable> i only see the default background on my remote desktop session
[14:36] <keemel> daftykins: sorry, didn't want to offend
[14:36] <daftykins> ubuntuupgrade: no, that is wrong
[14:36] <AlexPortable> mouse works and keyboard also
[14:36] <daftykins> keemel: oh you don't offend me :) it's just channel policy
[14:36] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable now you're being REALLY confusing.  First you have 10.04 - EOL.  NOW ou say you have 14.04 - no wait 10.04.  get your story straight.  if you're on 10.04, you're unsupported.  if you're on 14.04, I don't know why your vnc doesn't work.
[14:37] <neutralizer> lotuspsychje: text box where user can write something
[14:37] <AlexPortable> my parents pc is 10.04
[14:37] <AlexPortable> mine is 14.04 lts
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> neutralizer: memo?
[14:37] <nightray> hello! I have a quick question. How do I change default sound device in Ubuntu 14.04 lts?
[14:37] <neutralizer> lotuspsychje: nope just a line of text
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> !sound | nightray
[14:39] <AlexPortable> the strange thing is, i can control my desktop
[14:39] <AlexPortable> but not see it
[14:39] <OerHeks> nightray, open terminal: alsamixer # and hit F6 to select device
[14:39] <nightray> lotuspsychje, I know how to change it manually from one device to the other. I am just tired of doing it every single time for each program
[14:40] <keemel> lotuspsychje: can I write both plop and Ubuntu on the same USB stick? Boot plop first, then choose Ubuntu from the boot manager.
[14:40] <nightray> OerHeks, thank you!
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> keemel: no plop needs to be cd boot, thats the whole point booting it when you cant access usb from bios
[14:41] <AlexPortable> so nobody can help me?
[14:41] <cfhowlett> !patience|AlexPortable
[14:42] <AlexPortable> ok
[14:43] <d3vlin> ok, any experts available in the synaptics/usb/hid area? :)
[14:43] <motaka2> in afolder I have several files with .xmind extention In some of them I have the word CORS or JSONP how can I find those files ?
[14:44] <AlexPortable> d3vlin: why?
[14:44] <gompa> hey iam trying to set up a kvm host where the guests are able to connect to each other and to the Internet but not to the local network. i can get the lan and geusts isolated but i cant get the 2 geusts to connect ( i have enabled net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 on the host)
[14:44] <AlexPortable> how can i install lib32asound2 on ubuntu?
[14:44] <d3vlin> I just hooked up one of the new All-in-one Media keyboards of the type with a general USB transceiver. I can use both the keyboard and the mouse/trackpad just fine.
[14:44] <wols_> !multiarch
[14:45] <d3vlin> However, the touchpad is using evdev instead of synaptics, so the advanced features of the touchpad are missing.
[14:45] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable sudo apt-get install lib32asound2
[14:45] <AlexPortable> cfhowlett: it can't  find the package
[14:46] <gdm85> hello! running 14 here. is it possible to use kernel 3.10 on this version?
[14:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> daftykins how do I do that? I am very new to ubuntu
[14:46] <gdm85> perhaps a backport?
[14:47] <daftykins> ToAruShiroiNeko: easiest way? you could create the VM with lubuntu or xubuntu instead
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> neutralizer: searching, but cant find anything better then notes or paste indicators
[14:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> umm I already have ubuntu installed
[14:48] <daftykins> ToAruShiroiNeko: or if you must use stock ubuntu with unity as-is, perhaps you can find a way to tweak compiz to dial down a lot of the daft animations etc.
[14:48] <daftykins> ToAruShiroiNeko: yes, but ubuntu uses unity which is 3D heavy - where xubuntu and lubuntu won't be because they use alternate desktop environments
[14:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> that really doesnt answer my question
[14:48] <motaka2> in afolder I have several files with .xmind extention In some of them I have the word CORS or JSONP how can I find those files ?
[14:48] <ph88> how can i get google search in ubuntu search ?
[14:48] <lamrz> hello everyone, what does 'lkl' signify in ubuntu terminal?
[14:48] <lamrz> as a program, I mean
[14:48] <daftykins> ToAruShiroiNeko: you want it to be less 3D heavy under hyper-V, how is that not an answer?
[14:49] <lamrz> or as an executable whatever
[14:49] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I cannot reinstall a different version
[14:49] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I need to modify what I have
[14:49] <daftykins> why
[14:49] <ToAruShiroiNeko> because I was given such constraints
[14:49] <bidello> \ciao
[14:49] <bidello> \list!
[14:50] <zykotick9> motaka2: do you have lots of .xmind files on your system?  "find / -iname '*.xmind'" might help
[14:50] <daftykins> ToAruShiroiNeko: that's... a ridiculous scenario, but ok you could install 'xubuntu-desktop' to get that instead
[14:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> [2014-06-08, 16:48:14] <daftykins> ToAruShiroiNeko: or if you must use stock ubuntu with unity as-is, perhaps you can find a way to tweak compiz to dial down a lot of the daft animations etc.
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> !backports | gdm85
[14:52] <kDycuLaptop> Hey, quick question. For some reason, when I run this program automatically at startup it immediately quits out. If I run it manually from the terminal, all is fine.
[14:52] <planetmaker> it probably needs a terminal, kDycuLaptop
[14:52] <planetmaker> or some other output channel it doesn't have as deamon
[14:53] <kDycuLaptop> how would I do that? I just added the command to /etc/rc.local and thought that would do it
[14:53] <jayayseakay> lotuspsychje, hello mate, I tried that same tool before and had the same issue
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> planetmaker: whats this program for exactly? does it need root maybe?
[14:53] <daftykins> !info simple-ccsm
[14:53] <jayayseakay> lotuspsychje, you have any idea how i could use the patch at #11 on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/967399
[14:53] <daftykins> aww
[14:54] <kDycuLaptop> it's sort of complicated, but essentially it's a piece of emulation software for a pinball/video hybrid
[14:54] <kDycuLaptop> currently my /etc/rc.local looks like this
[14:54] <kDycuLaptop> cd /root/pinbox/bin
[14:54] <kDycuLaptop> ./run pinbox -bpp 16 -fullscreen
[14:54] <kDycuLaptop> exit 0
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> kDycuLaptop: pinbox is the game or emulator?
[14:55] <zykotick9> kDycuLaptop: 1) do you really want it running as root?  2) rc.local isn't going to work with GUI apps
[14:55] <zykotick9> kDycuLaptop: 3) your rc.local syntax is not good
[14:55] <kDycuLaptop> afaik I have to run it as root?
[14:56] <kDycuLaptop> pinbox is technically the emulator
[14:56] <kDycuLaptop> re 2) oh. well that's good to know.
[14:56] <kDycuLaptop> re 3) yeah, I'm definitely just mucking around and trying out google suggestions, so I'm not terribly surprised :/
[14:56] <AlexPortable> the deskto pseems to be an issue with ubuntu
[14:56] <AlexPortable> same happens with teamviewer
[14:58] <nightray> does anyone know why on firefox I can search from address bar more then two words, but one word displays an error/
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> kDycuLaptop: should that not be pinbox.desktop or something?
[14:58] <AlexPortable> it freezes my ubuntu
[14:58] <zykotick9> kDycuLaptop: i'm 99% sure, ubuntu has some autorun setup GUI for users
[14:59] <motaka2> Is this wrong? grep -w "JSONP” Docs/*.xmind
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> kDycuLaptop: or try this: ./run pinbox -bpp 16 -fullscreen
[14:59] <phirex> Yey
[14:59] <phirex> finally on a clean working machine :)
[14:59] <zykotick9> motaka2: is JSONP in the file, or in the name?
[14:59] <kDycuLaptop> that command works in terminal if I navigate to /root/pinbox/bin
[15:00] <kDycuLaptop> but I think I have to be root to navigate there first?
[15:00] <kDycuLaptop> sorry, I'm a bit rubbish at this linux stuff, clearly.
[15:00] <zykotick9> kDycuLaptop: use full path, /root/pinbox/bin/run pinbox -bpp 16 -fullscreen
[15:00] <motaka2> zykotick9: in the file it is a word in the file
[15:00] <phirex> Lessons learnt: never install kubuntu, never run out of battery and always backup your important data!
[15:01] <zykotick9> motaka2: you may want to add -R for recursive on your grep, and using a full path vs Docs/ might help
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> kDycuLaptop: navigate first, then execute
[15:01] <kDycuLaptop> "permission denied"
[15:01] <AlexPortable> when i run teamviewer as root it all works
[15:01] <jayayseakay> where is the kernel directory in ubuntu?
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: ba carefull with teamviewer like i told you before
[15:01] <zykotick9> kDycuLaptop: the fact this program is in /root is probably going to be an issue!  best of luck.
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: use it to fix a fast solution, then uninstall it again
[15:02] <kirankumar> hello good  evening evrybody .  some one help me?
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> !ask | kirankumar
[15:02] <kDycuLaptop> I can't navigate to /root without logging in as root
[15:02] <kDycuLaptop> I think?
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> kDycuLaptop: executing a game with root sounds bit silly
[15:03] <kDycuLaptop> well, it's interfacing with a real actual pinball machine
[15:03] <kDycuLaptop> so that might be part of it? I dunnooo
[15:03] <AlexPortable> like you told me before?/
[15:03] <kirankumar> sorry @ubottu  sir i want to update my ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 lts its possible without losing data
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> kDycuLaptop: you sure this is default dir of game?
[15:04] <AlexPortable> lotuspsychje:  like you told me before?/
[15:04] <AlexPortable> also teamviewer works
[15:04] <AlexPortable> how can i run the remote destkop service as root in ubuntu?
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: i suggested you teamviewer, but not as safe solution, but fast one...be carefull with that okay
[15:04] <kDycuLaptop> the whole "game" is packaged as an iso that installs ubuntu and the package all in one go
[15:05] <AlexPortable> hm
[15:05] <kDycuLaptop> so yeah, I mean, I don't have any choice in where the "game" is installed to
[15:05] <AlexPortable> teamviewer closes
[15:05] <AlexPortable> how to fix?
[15:05] <daftykins> AlexPortable: we don't support third party software, nor EOL versions
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> kDycuLaptop: a game built in an ubuntu iso?
[15:06] <kDycuLaptop> yeah. the whole thing comes as one iso
[15:06] <kirankumar> can  i update 12.04 lts to 14.04 lts
[15:07] <kDycuLaptop> it's designed to be a replacement computer build for the proprietary hardware that came in the game
[15:07] <lamrz> hello everyone, what does 'lkl' signify in this command line?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7613372/
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> kDycuLaptop: where di you get that iso?
[15:07] <AlexPortable> daftykins: so you also can't tell me where i can find logs for the crashing of the program?
[15:07] <kDycuLaptop> so *theoretically* you build a computer to the specs and install the disc and it's good to go
[15:07] <kDycuLaptop> (so not the case)
[15:07] <AlexPortable> daftykins: because if i will contact teamviewer, they will say ask for support at [your operating system]
[15:07] <daftykins> lamrz: it's something someone is searching for in running processes :)
[15:08] <kDycuLaptop> lotuspsychje it was only available for a short period of time before the creator abandoned the project for legal reasons
[15:08] <kDycuLaptop> friend of a friend situation
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> kDycuLaptop: whats the ubuntu version of this?
[15:08] <lamrz> daftykins, that someone is me, but I'm trying to figure out what lkl here stands for.
[15:08] <daftykins> AlexPortable: i doubt it, but we've already told you you're running an unsupported OS so there is nothing more to add.
[15:08] <kDycuLaptop> In the progress I've upgraded to the current release
[15:08] <kDycuLaptop> in order to get sound working properly and stuff
[15:08] <daftykins> lamrz: well, the output shows it's not running whatever it is - so no idea :D what made you run it? :)
[15:09] <Erik_v4> http://www.linkeyproject.com/app/
[15:09] <lamrz> daftykins, I was reading of a keylogger named lkl
[15:09] <jayayseakay> Can anyone help me with patching the kernel similar to bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/967399
[15:09] <Erik_v4> http://www.linkeyproject.com/app/
[15:09] <lamrz> daftykins, http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Logging/LKL-6347.shtml
[15:09] <kirankumar> i have ubuntu 12.04 LTS i want update latest version . please help
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> Erik_v4: plz stop that, this is an ubuntu support channel
[15:10] <daftykins> lamrz: i'm afraid i don't like to assist with what look like bad actions
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> kirankumar: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-12-04
[15:11] <daftykins> ^the command used in that guide is a bad idea
[15:11] <AlexPortable> daftykins: I didnt know 14.04 was unsupported
[15:11] <lamrz> daftykins, you wouldnt be. I'm trying to figure out whether it's being run on my own devices
[15:11] <daftykins> AlexPortable: i think you're just lying now.
[15:11] <AlexPortable> daftykins: Good for you to think that
[15:11] <Erik_v4> http://www.linkeyproject.com/app/
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Erik_v4
[15:12] <kirankumar> Thanks @lotuspychje sir
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> kirankumar: beware that you always backup first, upgrading is always a risk
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> kirankumar: i recommend clean installs
[15:13] <jayayseakay> lotuspsychje,  you there mate?
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> !patience | jayayseakay
[15:13] <AlexPortable> daftykins: what do i need to do to 'prove it'?
[15:13] <kirankumar> oh already start as soon as you send link
[15:14] <SchrodingersScat> AlexPortable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teamviewer 'License: Proprietary'
[15:14] <AlexPortable> SchrodingersScat: yes but teamviewer can't help me with the log files on ubuntu
[15:14] <SchrodingersScat> AlexPortable: and that's partially why.
[15:14] <kirankumar> sorry what recommed  clean install?
[15:14] <daftykins> AlexPortable: well, i can no longer assist you anyway i'm afraid.
[15:15] <SchrodingersScat> AlexPortable: can't or won't? It's a rhetorical question.
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> kirankumar: yes, backup your data on usb stick, then install 14.04 clean
[15:15] <AlexPortable> SchrodingersScat: i want to use teamviewer because the built in software doens't works
[15:15] <kirankumar> i started process
[15:15] <AlexPortable> built in 'remote desktop' wont work
[15:16] <kirankumar> sir i installed multi it not iffect any other os data ?
[15:16] <bijoo_> lshw shows no driver: http://pastebin.com/mLb6vFyd
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> kirankumar: you have other Os?
[15:16] <kirankumar> yes sir
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> kirankumar: wich?
[15:16] <bijoo_> Trying to get HDMI output; hooked up laptop to the TV right now; but I'm not getting asignal on TV>
[15:16] <kirankumar> windows
[15:16] <kirankumar> windows 7
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> bijoo_: xrandr maybe
[15:17] <bijoo_> lotuspsychje: okay; thanks; does that mean the program righ?
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | bijoo_
[15:17] <gdm85> lotuspsychje: ok, thanks
[15:18] <bijoo_> lotuspsychje: thank you; I'll check it out here right now.
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> kirankumar: before you install/upgrade, always do backups..many things can go wrong sometimes
[15:18] <zergut_> good evening
[15:18] <kirankumar> @lotuspsychje sir dont very i am student.  i have no important data
[15:18] <zergut_> how to determine if drivers was successfully installed
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> zergut_: wich device you want to know?
[15:19] <zergut_> sound card, video card etc
[15:20] <kirankumar> @lotuspsychje  thanks a lot i try so many command before this command but not work properly
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> zergut_: sudo lshw -C video   sudo lshw -C sound
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> zergut_: check net to driver= if module loaded
[15:20] <zergut_> lotuspsychje: thank you
[15:21] <kirankumar> @lotuspsychje .  now it work  thanks a lot
[15:21] <jackarius86> hi how can i get involved in developing for ubuntu?
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> jackarius86: check #ubuntu-devel guys
[15:21] <negev> hi, i'm running openldap on a ubuntu box, can't seem to figure out how to change the loglevel so i can debug authentication failures.  how can i get slapd to log useful info?  slapd.conf doesn't exist
[15:22] <jackarius86> thanks lotuspsychje
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> jackarius86: we also have #ubuntu-touch if you wanna help improve ubuntu touch
[15:27] <AlexPortable> where can i find crash logs?
[15:27] <phirex> is the site http://www.enqlu.com trustable?
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> !squid | phirex
[15:28] <phirex> uhmmm, ok and?
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: /var/log/ or dmesg
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> phirex: oh just saw frist thread, tought you wanted squid..
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> phirex: trusting a site depends on many factors, adding ppa etc
[15:30] <bijoo_> lotuspsychje: thanks for tip, but xrandr isn't it. Issue is TV's not recognized there; xrandr -q just returned monitor.
[15:30] <bijoo_> lotuspsychje: I have NVidida card and not sure driver;
[15:30] <bijoo_> lotuspsychje: I'm sure I'm not using Nvidia's driver.
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> bijoo_: how about xrandr --auto
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> or -auto
[15:31] <bijoo_> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/K3dnBJzf
[15:31] <bijoo_> lotuspsychje: it says gamman ot found; and not much else.
[15:32] <bijoo_> lotuspsychje: I guess my issue's with my driver there.
[15:32] <bijoo_> lotuspsychje: since none's listed in lshw
[15:32] <bijoo_> lotuspsychje: I'm total newb at the OS level.
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> bijoo_: check your additional driver list for drivers
[15:33] <bijoo_> lotuspsychje: "software-properties-gtk --open-tab=4" ?
[15:33] <kirankumar> give a link a for important linux command for study
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> bijoo_: software sources/last tab additional drivers
[15:34] <bijoo_> lotuspsychje: it says " No additional drivers available"
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> !manual | kirankumar
[15:34] <bijoo_> lotuspsychje: "No propriertary drivers are in use."
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> bijoo_: what does driver= say in lshw -C video ?
[15:34] <OerHeks> bijoo_, what nvidia card? lspci | grep VGA
[15:35] <kirankumar> @ubottu thanks sir
[15:35] <bijoo_> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/Q6YAEtSH
[15:35] <zergut_> как пароль судо восстановить?
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> !ru | zergut_
[15:35] <bijoo_> OerHeks: OerHeks http://pastebin.com/QDFN8xRY
[15:36] <Vivekananda> having a lot of trouble setting up openvpn on ubuntu 12.04. Can someone help me troubleshoot this a little ? I am stuck and dont know what to do. the vpn connection says connected but cannot ping anything in the network except for my own computers local ip
[15:36] <zergut_> thank you
[15:36] <zergut_> again
[15:36] <OerHeks> oh optimus
[15:36] <andytt> Hi, I've trouble in apple magic trackpad on ubuntu gnome 14.04, http://askubuntu.com/questions/479406/touchegg-at-ubuntu-gnome-14-04-multi-touch-not-working
[15:36] <bijoo_> OerHeks: oh right, I've heard that name before as well; that's the type of Nvidia card right?
[15:36] <jimi_> are the java oracle jdks in the repo i cant find them
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> !optimus | bijoo_
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> !java | jimi_
[15:37] <bijoo_> lotuspsychje: got it, thank you; I thought I had it there. I remember bumblebee long ago; I thought I set it up , but I guess not.
[15:37] <OerHeks> bijoo_, no, dual gpu, see this wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee#Basic_Setup_for_13.10_and_later
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> bijoo_: tnx to OerHeks to recognize the card
[15:38] <bijoo_> OerHeks: thank you, I'll read it now and tell result.
[15:38] <bijoo_> lotuspsychje: thank you; trying the bumblebee right now.
[15:40] <kDycuLaptop> question: how can I boot directly into command line without starting the gui? not just one-time, but always.
[15:40] <apb1963> I'm sure this is a dumb question, but better safe than sorry....  If e2mkfs reports bad blocks, does it take them into account when it creates the file system?  I've got a whole bunch of these...
[15:40] <apb1963> Warning: the backup superblock/group descriptors at block 1802240 contain
[15:40] <apb1963>         bad blocks.
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> kDycuLaptop: ubuntu server?
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | apb1963
[15:41] <OerHeks> kDycuLaptop, see http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/01/boot-into-text-console-ubuntu-linux-14-04/
[15:41] <kDycuLaptop> no, I'd just rather not have the gui running if I'm not going to be using it. I can always start it if I need to,
[15:42] <kDycuLaptop> OerHeks, thanks!
[15:42] <AlexPortable> so how can i fix htis?
[15:42] <AlexPortable> this
[15:42] <apb1963> !info testdisk
[15:42] <AlexPortable> i'm trying to get this working for over an hour already
[15:43] <apb1963> lotuspsychje: thanks,but that doesn't answer my question
[15:43] <andytt> hi, someone using magic trackpad on ubuntu gnome 14.04?
[15:43] <apb1963> lotuspsychje: e2mkfs already ran the badblocks utility for 12 hours
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> apb1963: so your drive has badblocks..
[15:44] <apb1963> so i'll ask again....  If e2mkfs reports bad blocks, does it take them into account when it creates the file system?  I've got a whole bunch of these...  Warning: the backup superblock/group descriptors at block 1802240 contain bad blocks.
[15:45] <aftykins> apb1963: what does your disks SMART data look like?
[15:45] <apb1963> aftykins: it's a USB flash drive
[15:46] <aftykins> apb1963: are you still dealing with that from the other day?
[15:46] <aftykins> good lord man, let it die
[15:46] <apb1963> aftykins: yes
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:46] <apb1963> aftykins: two different disks actually... and they're both brand new
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> apb1963: try what aftykins suggested, test it with ubuntu smart disk analyzer, see what it says
[15:48] <onholiday> I'm brand new to Ubuntu and I'm trying to switch a cloned GitHub repo over to a mirrored repo. Is there any reason why I shouldn't just rm the repo directory and clone it again using --mirror?
[15:48] <onholiday> Or is there a smatter way to achieve the same effect?
[15:48] <onholiday> smarter, too.
[15:49] <aftykins> lotuspsychje: i was more thinking of hard disk SMART data but of course a flash drive won't have any
[15:49] <apb1963> lotuspsychje: I fail to understand how that will answer the question, If e2mkfs reports bad blocks, does it take them into account when it creates the file system?
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> apb1963: you want to know if the bad blocks will be used on your system?
[15:50] <apb1963> lotuspsychje: Yes.  Or does it mark them bad and not use them and so my data will be safe.
[15:50] <bijoo_> lotuspsychje: OerHeks I followed the wiki and restarted; still can't connect HDMI TV; here'se paste for lshw and lspci http://pastebin.com/gY9qNzz7
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> bad blocks are bad blocks
[15:51] <x0011bf> Apparently the stable cinnamon ppa is not being updated anymore. Is there an alternative source? A desktop similar to Cinnamon?
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> bijoo_: still says unclaimed
[15:51] <apb1963> lotuspsychje: so you're saying you don't know.  It's ok if you don't know, I don't know either... that's why I'm asking.  I think it does mark them bad, it would be pretty dumb to find them and ignore them... but I was hoping for a definitive answer.
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> apb1963: ask the ##hardware guys what you can do with bad blocks maybe
[15:53] <apb1963> lotuspsychje: they're not going to know what a linux utility does in regard to creation of a file system.
[15:54] <apb1963> lotuspsychje: I know that DOS and windows mark them bad...  I can only assume linux would do the same... but there's nothing anywhere I can find that tells me that.
[15:54] <arthurfiggis> apb1963: is there any point to you actually asking this question, besides offering you the opportunity to point out how much other people don't know about the answer? a ten second google search showed that the -c option to e2mkfs scans for bad blocks and prevents data from being stored on them
[15:54] <flux242> Hi, is it possible to start a remote desktop session on a display:1 without starting xinit on it first?
[15:54] <apb1963> arthurfiggis: I did not see the words "and prevents data from being stored on them"
[15:54] <apb1963> arthurfiggis: I'll have to doublecheck now.  Thank you
[15:54] <arthurfiggis> apb1963: read more carefully: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badblocks
[15:56] <apb1963> arthurfiggis: I only read the man page which states "
[15:56] <apb1963> -c     Check the device for bad blocks before creating the file system.  If this option is specified twice,
[15:56] <apb1963>               then a slower read-write test is used instead of a fast read-only test.
[15:56] <apb1963> Vague.
[15:56] <andytt> hi, someone use apple magic trackpad on ubuntu gnome? My cursor freeze whenever i use three or more fingers touch
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> wols_: can you help apb1963 here with his badblocks issue
[16:01] <TyrfingMjolnir> in /etc/apt/sources.list there is a naming cdrom:
[16:01] <TyrfingMjolnir> how can make this cdrom: point to a certain path?
[16:04] <deftykins> TyrfingMjolnir: there is a GUI way to use the same, but what are you trying to do? upgrade from a disc?
[16:04] <Janusz> Hello. Can I install SteamOS over Ubuntu?
[16:04] <deftykins> Janusz: 'over' as in to replace? sure - that has nothing to do with ubuntu support though
[16:04] <TyrfingMjolnir> I just installed 14.04 from memory stick
[16:05] <TyrfingMjolnir> I would like to install the additional drivers from the memory stick to get on the wifi
[16:06] <deftykins> TyrfingMjolnir: i... don't think they're on there in that form 0o
[16:06] <sudormrf> deftykins, YOU AGAIN! :P
[16:07] <deftykins> you must be thinking of someone else
[16:07] <TyrfingMjolnir> deftykins: when you dont know, STFU
[16:07] <Justus> hi
[16:07] <TyrfingMjolnir> deftykins: Fixed this: http://linuxpoison.blogspot.no/2011/01/how-to-add-cd-rom-to-sourceslist-file.html
[16:08] <bijoo_> Hi I installed bmublebee here now; but still lshw says unclaimed: http://pastebin.com/gY9qNzz7
[16:08] <bijoo_> Anyone know how to claim the device?
[16:08] <deftykins> TyrfingMjolnir: i'm saying i don't think the package is available from the install media like that, don't show disrespect.
[16:08] <TyrfingMjolnir> But you just answered alot of questions I never asked
[16:09] <TyrfingMjolnir> I m just attempting to communicate with you at your level.
[16:09] <deftykins> < TyrfingMjolnir> I would like to install the additional drivers from the
[16:09] <deftykins>                         memory stick to get on the wifi
[16:09] <deftykins> right so you totally didn't just ask that.
[16:09] <TyrfingMjolnir> No
[16:09] <Justus> got a  bit of trobule with an ubuntu server here, I want to use it with jackd to act as a remote webinterface controlled radio streaming plattform. The general idea was use jackd and icecast to create a stream and deliver it, and use a python webapp to control jackd and software like skype and mediaplayers to generate a stream
[16:09] <deftykins> ok, done speaking to you now - goodbye.
[16:09] <TyrfingMjolnir> I asked how to edit the value of "cdrom:" used in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:10] <deftykins> indeed which is the wrong approach, anywho see above.
[16:10] <Justus> now the problem is, I don't know why alsa is not working, it's as if there is no driver installed or it isn't propperly installed, how wld yo go abotu tracing this problem? cause I'm lost here
[16:11] <Vivekananda> can someone help a little with vpn issues and troubleshooting
[16:12] <jhutchins> Vivekananda: Depends on the issues.
[16:12] <jhutchins> Vivekananda: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[16:12] <apb1963> Justus: Start here: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page   Keep in mind, some programs just don't work with alsa for whatever reason, and require pulseaudio.
[16:13] <s123> is there a linux OS that works on a mac? i.e uses EFI instead of BIOS?
[16:13] <deftykins> s123: ubuntu has been EFI capable since 12.04
[16:13] <deftykins> s123: there are separate mac ISOs available from the download pages
[16:13] <Vivekananda> jhutchins: I installed open vpn in network manager included certs and tried to connect. It says connected successfully. Now I cannot ping any machine inside just my own local ip. Also I want to find out how to get info about dns settings for vpn ( this might help me configure vpn server if need be)
[16:13] <jhutchins> s123: Most distros will work with intel macs.
[16:14] <apb1963> Justus: look for something called alsa-info.sh
[16:14] <dey> where do games grab the supported resolutions from?
[16:14] <s123> i have a man, hirmware 8,1 there is no ubuntu for this
[16:14] <jhutchins> Vivekananda: Sounds like you have it set to use the VPN as the default gateway.  That means you can't see the local network.
[16:14] <jhutchins> Vivekananda: The VPN server can either supply DHCP or can pass through DHCP.
[16:15] <skinux> I let Ubuntu do an update, had to restart, and now Python complains _markerlib is missing when I try to install oursql?
[16:15] <skinux> Seems like everytime I do some kind of an upgrade something breaks in Ubuntu.
[16:15] <Vivekananda> jhutchins: I am sorry but I dont know networking well enough to understand everything you said but I did understand parts of it
[16:15] <Justus> apb1963: thank you
[16:15] <wols_> apb1963: in the age of SMART bacblock is not really used or needed anymore
[16:16] <jhutchins> Vivekananda: The default gateway is something you can set on the openvpn client.
[16:16] <Vivekananda> when you say : I cannot see the local network did you mean the 'local' network at the client location ?
[16:16] <jhutchins> Vivekananda: Are you using Network Manager to control the VPN?
[16:17] <apb1963> wols_: The problem is with a USB flash drive
[16:17] <jhutchins> Vivekananda: Yes, the remote network being over the VPN connection.
[16:17] <Vivekananda> if yes then I am sorry for not conveying properly but what I meant is that after connecting to the vpn I can ping the IP I get assigned by the vpn remote server and but I cannot ping the local SERVER side machines
[16:18] <streulma> hello I want usb info about a specific device xxxx:xxxx, how can I do it with lsusb?
[16:18] <Vivekananda> by local I meant machines on the server lan/vpn connection
[16:18] <jhutchins> Vivekananda: Let's call the network at the other end the remote network.
[16:18] <wols_> apb1963: there the controller is supposed to map out bad cells.
[16:18] <Vivekananda> ok
[16:19] <jhutchins> Vivekananda: local being what's located with your client machine.
[16:19] <wols_> apb1963: and if the controller cannot do that anymore, it's basically almost dead anyways
[16:19] <Vivekananda> jhutchins: so I want to ping the remote machines available to me through the server
[16:19] <Vivekananda> jhutchins: yes I understand and sorry for the confusion
[16:19] <jhutchins> Vivekananda: So can you ping the remote server's IP, or only the IP assgned to the connection?
[16:20] <module000> streulma: you can use `lsusb -s <BUS>:<DEVNUM>`, and throw -v in to get more info
[16:20] <Vivekananda> jhutchins: I am sure about being able to ping the ip assigned to the connection but not sure about the remote server ip
[16:20] <Vivekananda> let me try that
[16:20] <module000> streulma: if you already know the device's /dev location, you can do `lsusb -D /dev/bus/usb/<num>/<num>` also
[16:21] <Vivekananda> jhutchins: the problem is if i try that then I loose internet :(
[16:21] <sflw> Hi guys, brand new to Ubuntu and also cronjobs. Can you guys see any reason why the following shell script wouldn't fire hourly when placed in /etc/cron.hourly: http://bpaste.net/show/ZanwfGQwVMdyhpNPFqyR/?
[16:21] <jhutchins> Vivekananda: Look for a "default gateway" setting.
[16:21] <Vivekananda> jhutchins: where and how ?
[16:22] <module000> sflw: is 'scrapy' in the path? add some logging to it so you can capture any errors it might be throwing
[16:22] <jhutchins> Vivekananda: Where you set up the VPN connection.  Unfortunately I don't have a Ubuntu desktop I can walk you through with.
[16:22] <sflw> module000: Good question about path. How do I check that? Also any recommendations on catching errors?
[16:22] <jhutchins> streulma: You will also see some information at the end of dmesg when you connect the device.
[16:23] <sflw> module000: scrapy is a command from a python library I have installed, btw.
[16:23] <module000> sflw: i replied to your paste with some additions to dump the output to /tmp/mycron.output:  http://bpaste.net/show/DuFcEFyWRp6E1GeassZw/
[16:24] <CarlFK> sflw: (and module000) nothing is in the path in cron.. you need to specify the full path to it
[16:24] <Vivekananda> jhutchins: here is something I tried
[16:24] <module000> sflw: also if you put that in cron.hourly, it is going to run as root - so your normal user may have changes to their path that root won't have
[16:24] <Vivekananda> jhutchins:  http://imgur.com/fMy8scu
[16:25] <sflw> module000: Thanks! I'm running as root@ip right now on my web server, so that should be fine? Also, I'm not sure what 2>&1 means. Have a resource I can read to learn more about that?
[16:25] <datahead8888> Can anyone help with this problem?  My desktop manager (lightdm) is broken in Ubuntu.  If I try to start it from recovery mode, it says, "Failed to get D-Bus Connection"  If I don't find a solution, I am going to have to reinstall Ubuntu completely.
[16:25] <Justus> apb1963: http://nopaste.info/0b26b91e1d.html there seems to be no driver installed, any ideas how I can go on here? Looking for this soundcard came up empty.
[16:25] <bijoo_> OerHeks: I think I finally get it here; seems I can't do HDMI output; since bumbleweed doesn't support it yet; and I have to use bumbleweed here; since I have Nvidia optimus:   https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/History-of-the-project
[16:25] <module000> sflw: 2>&1 says to redirect standard error to standard output, so that any error messages end up in that log file. check out http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html
[16:26] <datahead8888> My problem is posted at http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/desktop-manager-is-broken-after-standard-ubuntu-updates-4175506282/
[16:26] <bijoo_> OerHeks: I read that in the section titled this: "An end to the story ?" "As you can see, we've not been sitting down idling, and we're not going to do so now, because we still have a lot of things we want to put in Bumblebee: HDMI output support, VDPAU and alternatives backend, an graphical configuration interface, ..."
[16:26] <sflw> CarlFK: Is the cd command enough? Or do I need to do /path/to/file + command? (ex. ~/BeijingAir/AQIspider/ python cngovaqi.py)
[16:26] <sflw> module000: Gotcha, thanks.
[16:26] <s123> does ubuntu work on EFI?
[16:26] <deftykins> bijoo_: nvidia-prime is also an option i believe
[16:27] <CarlFK> sflw: python isn't going to run either
[16:27] <deftykins> s123: we told you when you first asked. yes, since 12.04
[16:27] <s123> but i can't make a live USB on a mac, how can i do it?
[16:27] <apb1963> wols_: so you're saying that the -c option for mkfs.ext4 is pointless?   I have an output file to show you, but it will be a few minutes until it uploads...
[16:27] <sflw> CarlFK: That's problematic. What do I need to do?
[16:27] <wols_> apb1963: at this point in time, yes
[16:28] <CarlFK> sflw: in bash (where you have a path) do witch python (mine shows /usr/bin/python) and use that for python.
[16:28] <module000> sflw: CarlFK is right - i was treating your cron like a user crontab. it won't have any PATH at all since you're doing it in /etc/cron's files
[16:28] <wols_> apb1963: I trust you that a shitty usb stick is dying. that's nothing new :)
[16:28] <mahua> hello
[16:28] <sflw> module000 + CarlFK: Would it be easier for me to do this in crontab -e? I only put it in cron.hourly for the sake of simplicity.
[16:28] <CarlFK> module000: I don't think user crontab has any path setup either.
[16:29] <CarlFK> sflw: ^^^ no.
[16:29] <sflw> Darn.
[16:29] <module000> CarlFK: the user ones will inherit the user - it runs through the bashrc/profile before it runs
[16:29] <s123> deftykins: i tried the latest version, but it does not show up on booting
[16:29] <streulma> the problem is Acer replaced my internal Sunplus webcam hardware and the problem persists, the problem is not solved. It goes off after about 10secs or directly.
[16:29] <apb1963> wols_: yeah that much I know.  The question is, will mkfs ignore the bad blocks?  It's the second one that's dying brand new and I'd kind of like to get some use out of it.
[16:29] <sflw> CarlFK: So then it should be /usr/bin/python cngovaqi.py?
[16:30] <streulma> is this then a software issue?
[16:30] <sflw> (My which python is the same)
[16:30] <deftykins> s123: and did you download the mac ISOs? what kind of mac do you have?
[16:30] <CarlFK> sflw: yes
[16:30] <wols_> apb1963: afaik yes it will
[16:30] <sflw> CarlFK: How about scrapy then? Do I need to specify the path to the python library?
[16:30] <wols_> apb1963: buy better branded sticks. e.g. sandisk?
[16:30] <streulma> does others have problems with Sunplus integrated cameras in Acer Aspire E1-771?
[16:31] <apb1963> apb1963: also, when you say "controller" I'm not sure what you mean... back in the day you plugged a daughterboard into the motherboard and that was your controller... now I have a usb port I plug the "drive" into.
[16:31] <s123> deftykins: i got the ISO from the Ubuntu website, i am not sure if there is a special ISO for mac, my mac is firmware 8,1 macbookpro 2012 and i have OS X 10.9.3
[16:31] <streulma> should I do it back to Acer ?
[16:31] <CarlFK> sflw: when python runs, it will do it's normal make-me-a-python-path thing, so it will find  scrapy
[16:31] <deftykins> s123: yes there are as i mentioned above earlier ;)
[16:31] <streulma> what is the problem here then?
[16:31] <s123> deftykins: oh, how can i find them?
[16:31] <datahead8888> Does anyone know how to solve a "Failed to get D-Bus connection" error for lightdm in Ubuntu?  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/desktop-manager-is-broken-after-standard-ubuntu-updates-4175506282/
[16:31] <sflw> CarlFK: If that's the case should I call python on cngovaqi.py script first and then scrapy second?
[16:32] <streulma> it is on Linux and Windows
[16:32] <Vivekananda> jhutchins: can you tell me where to find out the dns settings for a vpn connection ? ie what is the cli command for seeing it ?  Also can you tell me if the dns settings differ for vpnclients  as compared to the remote network computers themselves
[16:32] <deftykins> s123: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/trusty/release/
[16:32] <apb1963> wols_: better brands mean more money... something I'm short on at the moment.
[16:32] <deftykins> s123: i have no idea what the differences are though
[16:32] <s123> deftykins: oh
[16:32] <CarlFK> sflw: i am lossing you.  what?  (pastebin it I guess)
[16:32] <sflw> CarlFK: Sure, one sec.
[16:33] <wols_> apb1963: I ahven't noticed a big price premium for sandisk actually
[16:33] <s123> deftykins: ok downloading it now
[16:33] <jhutchins> Vivekananda: the VPN client should update /etc/resolv.conf
[16:33] <s123> deftykins: will come back to you after i try installing it :-)
[16:33] <apb1963> wols_: really?  How much for a 16GB drive?  What about 128GB?
[16:34] <jhutchins> http://pricewatch.com
[16:34] <apb1963> jhutchins: thank you.  I learn all kinds of good things in here when I ask questions :)
[16:35] <wols_> apb1963: about 20 for less than 10€ http://geizhals.de/?cat=sm_usb&asd=on&asuch=sandisk%20usb%20stick&xf=309_16384#xf_top
[16:35] <wols_> 40€ for a 128GB one. USB2.0 however. for USB3 you pay 105€
[16:35] <sflw> CarlFK: Like this: http://bpaste.net/show/YFis94jhXBQScwjiGzAl/
[16:35] <arthurfiggis> USB flash drives are as cheap as dirt these days, thankfully :) enough that i don't bother buying blank dvd's any more, the bluray player i have has a USB port for mp4 files so i convert everything and play it off them
[16:35] <sflw> CarlFK:  I moved the python command up above scrapy
[16:36] <apb1963> wols_: not bad I suppose... I paid $3.85 for a 128GB drive.... $3.50 for a 16GB.  So you can see the attraction.
[16:36] <squeakytoy> using digitalocean, doing a wdet on a 6mb zip file, is saying ETA is 37m
[16:36] <CarlFK> module000: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cron/+bug/1081379    PATH  is     set to "/usr/bin:/bin"  (TIL there is a path.  but seems nothing about bashrc. )
[16:36] <jhutchins> apb1963: I would say if you're seeing bad blocks on a "new" drive it's probably shot.
[16:37] <module000> CarlFK: ooh, i had no idea that was a bug in ubuntu. all my cron-fu comes from RHEL hosts at work ;)
[16:37] <jhutchins> apb1963: The main thing to look for is read errors and increases in bad blocks.
[16:37] <CarlFK> module000: no bug (it was marked invalid)
[16:37] <deftykins> s123: ok you're holding down 'alt' after the boot chime yeah to select the different device?
[16:38] <CarlFK> module000: but that report kinda explains what we are struggling with
[16:38] <module000> CarlFK: reading through it, thanks for the link
[16:38] <CarlFK> sflw: once the first python exits, the python-path goes away with it.
[16:38] <s123> deftykins: yes, previously the live USB does not show up, even after several restarts, will try this ISO file and i will let you know :-)
[16:38] <jhutchins> It's generally good practice not to assume anything about a script's execution environment and to specify anything that's important.  Full paths always.
[16:39] <sflw> CarlFK: I'm afraid I don't follow. Does that mean I need to specify the path for scrapy or leave it as is?
[16:39] <CarlFK> sflw: which scrapy, specify the full path to it.
[16:39] <CarlFK> right
[16:39] <wols_> apb1963: those aren't real 128GB drives. not gonna happen for 3 bucks. you got scammed
[16:39] <sflw> CarlFK: Got it.
[16:39] <deftykins> s123: it's probably how you're creating it then
[16:39] <s123> deftykins: oh, what should i do then?
[16:40] <CarlFK> sflw: and according to what I am finding, you don't need /usr/bin/python just python, because /usr/bin is the path (and only /usr/bin)
[16:40] <deftykins> s123: i don't know - i've not had to create one with a mac before :)
[16:40] <sflw> CarlFK: Okay, but which scrapy is /usr/local/bin/scrapy, I assume that's different?
[16:41] <s123> deftykins: :-)
[16:41] <zergut> how to update ubuntu for last release?
[16:41] <apb1963> jhutchins: as soon as this file finishes uploading, I'll share the link with you so you can see what I'm dealing with.
[16:41] <CarlFK> sflw: right.   /usr/local/bin/scrapy crawl bjaqi
[16:42] <sflw> CarlFK: All right, it's all set. The hour is in 18 minutes so we'll see if she goes or not!
[16:42] <apb1963> wols_: actually, the seller got boned.  So I don't know if he knowingly sent me a bad drive, or if the drives are just crappy to begin with.... maybe both.
[16:42] <apb1963> wols_: got it on ebay
[16:43] <CarlFK> sflw: you could change it to run at hh:45 (in 3 min)
[16:43] <wols_> at that pricing, the seller is a scammer. run h2testw on the drive
[16:43] <sflw> CarlFK: I could, should I do that in crontab?
[16:43] <CarlFK> sflw: yes, but something like * * *45
[16:43] <sflw> CarlFK: I need to specify the path to the file, right? So * * *45 /etc/cron.hourly/scrape.sh?
[16:44] <deftykins> zergut: what do you mean? what are you running and what do you want to run?
[16:44] <apb1963> ok this is making me a little nuts... both dropbox and copy.com give me errors when I try to upload this text file with very long lines.
[16:44] <llutz> CarlFK: sflw: man 5 crontab (45 * * * * ....)
[16:44] <CarlFK> llutz: opps, right.
[16:45] <CarlFK> sflw: 45 * * * * /etc/cron.hourly/scrape.sh
[16:45] <CarlFK> better do 47
[16:45] <zergut> im runnin 10.10
[16:45] <sflw> CarlFK: K
[16:45] <zergut> wanna last one
[16:45] <lucas-arg> hey guys, im in problems, when i start a game like openarena or nexuiz the mouse cursor goes to the top left corner of the screen... cant solve it its driving me crazy... any ideas of a solution??
[16:46] <sflw> All right let's see how it goes.
[16:46] <deftykins> zergut: honestly that's so far back you'd be better off just downloading and installing clean
[16:47] <odisa> Hey, I just did a clean in stall of Trusty Tahr on a brand new SSD.. Works extremely smooth. But now I see there's an Amazon app installed or the likes.. How do I remove it? dpkg doesn't list any apps with amazon in the name..
[16:47] <jrib> !adlens | odisa
[16:47] <jrib> odisa: that?
[16:47] <odisa> no, I've done that already jrib, thanks
[16:47] <odisa> I mean there's an actual launcher for it
[16:48] <sflw> CarlFK: Works!
[16:48] <mr_sarna> hi everybody
[16:48] <jrib> odisa: can you get info about the launcher?
[16:48] <CarlFK> sflw: \o/
[16:48] <odisa> jrib: how would I do that?
[16:48] <sflw> CarlFK: Thanks for all the help. Came for you module000 and llutz.
[16:48] <mr_sarna> trying to install ubuntu 14.04, but I cant see the LVM partitioning optioning anywhere
[16:48] <jrib> odisa: i don't know
[16:48] <sflw> Same*
[16:48] <sflw> I know there's a way to tell the bot to give cookies but I forget. :P
[16:48] <kostkon> odisa, right click -> remove from launcher. it's just a web app
[16:48] <odisa> hmm.. just says "Amazon"
[16:48] <mr_sarna> Do I have to do something to be able to see the LVM install option on the installer?
[16:48] <odisa> kostkon: will that remove the entire thing?
[16:49] <kostkon> odisa, no
[16:49] <sflw> All right I'm packing it in for the night. Thanks for the help.
[16:49] <odisa> kostkon: Yeah... that's what I'm after..
[16:49] <datahead8888> Does anyone know how to resolve a D-Bus connection error?  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/desktop-manager-is-broken-after-standard-ubuntu-updates-4175506282/
[16:50] <odisa> hot damn that search was quick
[16:50] <odisa> found it in /usr/share/unity-webapps/userscripts/unity-webapps-amazon
[16:50] <tonyt> can someone help me out real quick? im trying to install and nvidia driver but the thing is telling me i need to exit X before the install can take place. how to i exit this "X" ?
[16:53] <apb1963> ok, that was interesting... screen went black, mouse went dead... had to reboot.
[16:54] <deftykins> tonyt: you shouldn't really be using the download from the nvidia site, have you tried the packaged versions already?
[16:54] <SonikkuAmerica> tonyt: Drop to a tty with Ctrl+Alt+F1, log in, stop lightdm with sudo, and then run the script,if you must do it that way
[16:55] <tonyt> i havent looked for anything in the software center yet
[16:55] <tonyt> i was told i should try that first
[16:56] <deftykins> tonyt: nvidia-current should be the one
[16:56] <tonyt> ok thanks. ill search for that
[16:59] <otto82> facebook album upload not working
[16:59] <kris_> test
[17:00] <SchrodingersScat> kris_: test received
[17:00] <odisa> If I remove an application from /usr/share/applications, is it gone for good?
[17:00] <otto82> whats up people
[17:01] <jhutchins> tonyt: Unlike Windows, the GUI on Linux is a seperate system.  You have a fully functional text based OS running underneath it doing most of the real work.
[17:01] <otto82> sudo apt-get install whats up
[17:01] <jhutchins> tonyt: OSX is somewhere in between, more integrated but still a seperate system.
[17:01] <otto82> why dont you try apt-get purge
[17:02] <otto82> type sudo apt-get purge appname
[17:02] <otto82> then sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:02] <tonyt> got it
[17:02] <odisa> otto82: tried that, but I'll try again
[17:02] <otto82> i run mountain lion on virtual box
[17:03] <daftykins> otto82: that's lovely but off topic
[17:03] <otto82> if you want to use osx try build a custom i3 or i5 then hackintosh it
[17:03] <otto82> cheaper that way
[17:04] <bekks> odisa: Please dont advice illegal activies in here. Thank you.
[17:04] <otto82> ok sorry
[17:04] <odisa> bekks: excuse me?
[17:04] <bekks> odisa: I'll excuse you. how can I help you?
[17:04] <otto82> he means hackintosh
[17:05] <odisa> bekks: Which illegal activities?
[17:05] <apb1963> jhutchins: wols_: I keep trying to upload a file, so you can see for yourself what I'm dealing with, but both dropbox and copy.com keep rejecting it.  I'm at a loss as to what to do at this point.
[17:05] <bekks> odisa: Using hackintosh.
[17:05] <daftykins> odisa: it was a nickname highlight accident
[17:05] <odisa> ahh ok
[17:06] <odisa> got me confused there, haha
[17:06] <otto82> well we both know more then half of the net using pirated soft
[17:06] <otto82> not only me
[17:06] <odisa> So the command that the Amazon launcher runs is "unity-webapps-runner --amazon --app-id=ubuntu-amazon-default". Now I'm presuming deleting "unity-webapps-runner" will remove all webapps, correct?
[17:06] <daftykins> otto82: please just let it go and take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:07] <otto82> ok
[17:07] <bekks> otto82: It is illegal, end of the story in here. :)
[17:07] <streulma> I know a dog and his name is Sudo :)
[17:07] <otto82> im new on ubuntu and kubuntu linux such anyways only two years but i learn lot in these days
[17:07] <otto82> way better then windows
[17:08] <otto82> i hate win 7 and 8.1 microsoft sucks
[17:08] <bekks> otto82: Stop the offtopic. Finally. Thank you.
[17:08] <Nokiabot> Why
[17:08] <rww> otto82: #ubuntu is a support channel for Ubuntu Linux. For non-support discussion, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic and leave this channel free for support. Thanks.
[17:08] <otto82> but i think i must quit visual studio or delphi i must learn c sharp
[17:09] <otto82> well i need support
[17:09] <bekks> otto82: Ok, ignoring you, since you are ignoring us. *plonk*
[17:09] <rww> otto82: Then stop talking about off-topic stuff and ask your support question
[17:09] <otto82> why isnt it a free channel dont you people support free software
[17:10] <rww> otto82: because it has a lot of people in it, and if everyone just did what they want it would be a mess. Ask in #ubuntu-ops if you have further questions on the channel guidelines (which you were linked to when you joined this channel)
[17:10] <planetmaker> this is a support channel. Not a chat channel
[17:10] <otto82> well my support question is
[17:10] <otto82> ok wait i have a question
[17:10] <zergut> how to change superuser password?
[17:10] <otto82> why we people must remove cups and samba and reject webmin and ssh or purge it
[17:10] <bekks> !root | zergut
[17:10] <otto82> how many people use remote connections
[17:10] <otto82> its a security hole
[17:11] <planetmaker> zergut, sudo passwd
[17:11] <rww> !noroot
[17:11] <planetmaker> hm :)
[17:12] <markolo25> hello
[17:12] <jxjl> hi, does anybody know, how to get global appmenu working for gtk apps and LibreOffice in new Kubuntu? I have installed appmenu-gtk as usual, unfortunatelly, this package is replaced by unity-gtk-module, that doesn't work with kde globalmenu plasmoid
[17:12] <zergut> thank you
[17:12] <vak> hi all
[17:12] <markolo25> i currently have a tar.gz file but i'm not sure if it's really a tar.gz, or if it's a tar.bz2 is there a way of checking what it really is
[17:12] <Weishen> anyone know what happen to the off topic channel?
[17:13] <teaearlgraycold> If I want to install a second linux distro (Xubuntu) on top of my current one (Crunchbang) will the xubuntu installer take care of the Grub config? Will I just need to add a grub entry for crunchbang?
[17:13] <rww> mojtaba: file filename.tar.gz
[17:13] <rww> markolo25: file filename.tar.gz
[17:13] <planetmaker> markolo25, just try to ungzip it
[17:13] <rww> mojtaba: mistab, sorry
[17:13] <jhutchins> markolo25: Try to uncompress it with bzip or gzip.
[17:13] <markolo25> ok
[17:13] <rww> Weishen: Nothing, it's still at #ubuntu-offtopic as usual...
[17:13] <mojtaba> rww: no worries
[17:13] <elky> jxjl: i had to give up, canonical apparently ceased to maintain that thing :(
[17:13] <markolo25> using the tar command right?
[17:14] <jhutchins> markolo25: Using gunzip or bunzip
[17:14] <nytelife> Running 14.04LTS.  If OS freezes or crashes and I have to hard reboot, why does resolv conf loose its symlink?
[17:14] <Weishen> rww: sorry, not ubuntu off topic, but general off topic channel
[17:14] <jhutchins> markolo25: or, yeah, tar -xz, tar -xj
[17:14] <markolo25> do i have to rename the file when switching
[17:14] <nytelife> I can fix by running dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf, but why does it not stick?
[17:14] <rww> Weishen: #defocus is still #defocus as usual too (and op questions about it go in #defocus-ops, not here)
[17:15] <ice9> how to enable vsync?
[17:15] <vak> after re-aranging the SATA cables Ubuntu can't boot because of infinite loop in mdadm: CREATE user root not found \n mdadm:CREATE group not found \n Incrementally started RAID arrays. [...]
[17:15] <Weishen> rww: I totally forgot it was defocus, thanks!
[17:15] <vak> can one skip mdadm from grub?
[17:16] <vak> (Ubuntu is installed on non-RAID partition)
[17:16] <rww> Weishen: you're welcome :)
[17:17] <nytelife> any ideas?
[17:18] <x0077BE> I'm having some trouble installing Ubuntu.
[17:18] <x0077BE> Details in 1 sec.
[17:18] <x0077BE> Sorry.
[17:20] <x0077BE> I'm using the Ubuntu Server version, dual-boot with Windows 8. I have my linux partition configured with a /boot partition configured as an EFI boot partition, then my main partition is a dm-crypt encrypted volume containing an LVM logical volume which is then divided into a swap and / partition, all mounted properly.
[17:20] <x0077BE> It installs just fine, but fails to install the grub-amd64-signed bootloader.
[17:21] <x0077BE> Sorry, grub-efi-amd64-signed. I found some people saying I need network connection, but that doesn't really seem to be helping. I erased the /boot partition and tried again, no luck.
[17:22] <gdm85> I enabled backports, but there is no 3.10 kernel :s
[17:22] <gdm85> lotuspsychje: why did you point me at backports?
[17:23] <x0077BE> It specifically says "grub-efi-amd64-signed failed ot install to /target", so maybe it's not looking for /boot? I dunno what /target is.
[17:23] <bekks> gdm85: backports do not provide 3.10 kernels, but 3.11/3.13
[17:23] <lazor> !kali
[17:24] <markolo25> :3 file command is awesome jhattara told me exactly what i needed
[17:25] <nick07> I want to ./configure a program (gtimelapse) but I ran into trouble (checking gawk.. no ....)
[17:25] <gdm85> bekks: I asked originally about 3.10. but I don't see listed 3.11 either. shouldn't it be listed by an 'aptitude search'?
[17:25] <gdm85> I enabled trusty-backports
[17:25] <bekks> gdm85: Which ubuntu release are you on?
[17:25] <gdm85> bekks: 14
[17:25] <bekks> gdm85: 14 what?
[17:25] <Vivekananda> hi everyone
[17:26] <gdm85> bekks: are there multiple 14? 14.04 LTS
[17:26] <edgardokrause> hi everyone!!, i coulfnt install in acer aspire E1 510, win8, UEFI, not booteable usb, any idea?
[17:26] <adamcunnington_> can i play blu rays on 14.04?
[17:26] <bekks> gdm85: sudo apt-get install linux-image will install 3.13.0-x
[17:26] <bekks> adamcunnington_: "yes".
[17:26] <vilambit> how do i downgrade my xserver?
[17:27] <bekks> vilambit: you dont. why are you asking, actually?
[17:27] <gdm85> bekks: I am running 3.13 already, why would I do that?
[17:27] <bekks> gdm85: Being on 3.13, why do you want to use 3.10 or 3.11?
[17:27] <vilambit> bekks: because the previous version on my macbook pro didnt crash everyday
[17:27] <nick07> need some help with configure and install gtimelapse on ubuntu 14.04
[17:27] <Vivekananda> I have ubuntu 12.04 and trying to ping machines on remote network through vpn. I am able to ping the ip assigned to the connection but no other machines. I tried using this  http://askubuntu.com/questions/320921/having-dns-issues-when-connected-to-a-vpn-in-ubuntu-13-04  .   After doing the steps I see that my /etc/resolv.conf adds a line  : nameserver  x.x.x.x  . I still am unable to ping machines though.
[17:28] <markolo25> if i do a tar xf mark.tar.gz mark
[17:28] <markolo25> will it extract the mark.tar.gz to a new folder named mark
[17:28] <markolo25> will it make the new flder
[17:28] <bekks> Vivekananda: A nameserver has nothing to do with pinging IP adresses.
[17:28] <Vivekananda> vilambit: interesting name :)
[17:28] <wilee-nilee> x0077BE, might be worth reading, this mod besides a few users here is a pretty helpful in this area. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[17:28] <vilambit> Vivekananda: u from india? :)
[17:29] <gdm85> bekks: if you don't know how to answer my question, just don't answer. much appreciated
[17:29] <x0077BE> wilee-nilee: That's... a lot to read. Anything in particular you were pointing me to?
[17:29] <bekks> gdm85: If you dont want help, just say it. Much appreciated.
[17:29] <Vivekananda> bekks: someone told me that I needed the remote networks'  gateway info in the resolv.conf as one step in troubleshooting
[17:29] <bekks> gdm85: Maybe someone else will help you despite your attitude. I wont. Good luck.
[17:30] <bekks> Vivekananda: Thats not neded for pinging IP addresses at all.
[17:30] <adamcunnington_> bekks: i heard they have to be converted first due to DRM or something
[17:31] <nick07> like some help configure and install gTimelapse on Ubuntu 14.04
[17:31] <Vivekananda> bekks: okay then I am stuck and need help with vpn. Upto now I have installed openvpn for network manager and installed certs and stuff and connection goes through. I can ping the ip assigned to my machine but do nothing else. How do I proceed ?
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> x0077BE, Basically it is a thread that indicates the maze of the manufacturers versions of uefi setups, shows variables. There is another thread associated with the bootrepair and and it's bootinfo summary that this mod and a few there host for this sort of stuff as well.
[17:31] <bekks> Vivekananda: Check the routing, not the DNS.
[17:32] <wilee-nilee> x0077BE, You seem fairly savvy but this uefi is a pain in the booty.
[17:32] <wilee-nilee> uefi stuff*
[17:32] <x0077BE> wilee-nilee: Yeah, I can see that, but I dunno how applicable it is really. Unfortunately, I don't seem to have much to go on.
[17:33] <x0077BE> "x failed to install" is not a very helpful error message.
[17:33] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, are you trying to get to other machines on your remote network or other things?
[17:34] <x0077BE> This: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/1252255 is suggested as being due to the grub-efi-amd64-signed package being named the wrong thing.
[17:34] <rodhash> list
[17:34] <x0077BE> But it's not named wrong in my iso.
[17:34] <wilee-nilee> x0077BE, Sure, I would run the bootinfo summary only and post at the thread here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[17:34] <Vivekananda> sudormrf: I am tryiing to 1. connect to remote network   2. successfully ping machines there  3. eventually log into and take control of one machine and do stuff on it
[17:34] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, ok.  Let me post up a script.  this will probably fix your issue
[17:35] <Vivekananda> sudormrf: umm could you , if possible, also tell me what the issue is coz I would like to learn this a bit too
[17:35] <cassio3> hey guys. simple question.
[17:35] <cassio3> I'm converting a windows machine
[17:35] <Vivekananda> sudormrf: I was just going to post info about route -n after connecting to remote
[17:35] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7614045/
[17:35] <wilee-nilee> x0077BE, maybe 1 or 2 regulars here that I see fix this stuff, however it may be some just don't want to be involved hard to say, just a small help source in all.
[17:36] <cassio3> is there cross-platform backup software that will backup the windows machine and allow me to extract it on the windows side?
[17:36] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, IP forwarding is likely not setup.  so you will surely be able to connect back to the remote network and probably ping the server, but you won't be able to get to any remote clients.
[17:37] <Vivekananda> sudormrf: how do I figure out if ipforwarding is not set up
[17:37] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, grab that script, chmod +x it and run it.
[17:37] <Vivekananda> is there a way I can figure it out
[17:37] <Vivekananda> okay one sec
[17:37] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, on the server
[17:37] <daftykins> lol running some script someone gives you, seems legit ;D
[17:37] <Vivekananda> sudormrf: I am not the owner of the server. I can only remotely connect to it
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> cassio3, backup meaning what exactly, the parts of windows saved. Honestly there is a ##windows channel for windows.
[17:38] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, can you run scripts on it?
[17:38] <sudormrf> daftykins, YOU AGAIN!
[17:39] <sudormrf> daftykins, if you look at the script it is pretty obvious what it does.  there are even notes in it! :D
[17:39] <daftykins> yeah, but he might not know that
[17:39] <Vivekananda> sudormrf: I can ask the owner to run them but I need to be able to tell him what the problem is. so can you tell me if I can figure out if ipforwarding is set up or not ?
[17:39] <cassio3> wilee-nilee, that is unnecessary. What I want to know is if there is cross-platform backup software. the files mostly. I am aware that the binaries aren't compatible.
[17:39] <Vivekananda> also cant it be something at my end ? some routing table issues ?
[17:40] <cassio3> sorry mostly didn't mean to tag ya
[17:40] <sudormrf> daftykins, true
[17:40] <adamcunnington_> can i play blu ray on ubuntu without having to convert the file? literally plug and play?
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> cassio3, Sure, but can you be specific as what parts of windows, myself I just clone the stuff.
[17:41] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, so am I understanding this correctly, you can connect to the VPN just fine, but once connected to the VPN you cannot browse to any of the remote machines and you cannot access any web pages?
[17:41] <daftykins> Vivekananda: IP forwarding will be referred to in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward iirc
[17:42] <sudormrf> daftykins, thanks :)
[17:42] <Vivekananda> sudormrf: yes. also I can ping my assigned ip and the gateway ip but no others. nmap -sP x.x.x.x   also returns  only two hosts up ie the gateway and mine
[17:42] <wilee-nilee> cassio3, part of the issue is running within windows, there probably are tools, however we are support in general on broken stuff, not the white pages to find apps, E.g a polling station.
[17:42] <Vivekananda> daftykins: checking that
[17:42] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, yeah.  Had the same issue with it myself.
[17:43] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, there are two ways to solve this
[17:43] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, bridge the adapters (using a TAP instead of TUN, or the reverse, I forget).  Or IP Forwarding
[17:44] <reversiblean> Can I install gnome-flashback in Ubuntu 12.04? Anybody?
[17:44] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/BridgingAndRouting
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> reversiblean, Not without a ppa
[17:44] <cassio3> wilee-nilee, I apologise if I've broken the rules
[17:44] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/faq/75-general/311-what-are-the-fundamental-differences-between-bridging-and-routing-in-terms-of-configuration.html
[17:44] <cassio3> I will go away
[17:45] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/miscellaneous/76-ethernet-bridging.html
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> cassio3, Nah that just the channel has it's uses and we want to help, not waste you time.
[17:45] <reversiblean> how about the compatibility?
[17:45] <dhaval2712> msg nickserv identify dhvl_2712
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> your*
[17:45] <dhaval2712> Ah. My password.
[17:45] <dhaval2712> Great.
[17:46] <cassio3> you are missing the slash
[17:46] <Vivekananda> sudormrf: hmmm but before I go into all that ( honestly I dont know networking well enough so will have to read a couple of times to follow) but if what you say is true then no one should be able to connect and log on to remote machines via vpn on that network right ?
[17:46] <dhaval2712> cassio3, Indeed.
[17:46] <kirankumar> hi, my ubuntu is upgrade now can can i puase it and resume tomoroow
[17:46] <dhaval2712> So anyway, Ubuntu crashes very badly when I start the YouTube webapp, even AFTER the upgrade.
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> reversiblean, If you address another using their nick as a preface keeps the context
[17:47] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, depends.  the script I posted will setup ipfowarding for all openvpn connections.  if the server admin has setup routes for single clients that would be different.
[17:47] <Vivekananda> kirankumar: I believe upgrades should not be paused in between
[17:47] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, meaning those clients would be able to do what you are trying to do.
[17:47] <Vivekananda> you might get broken packages
[17:48] <kirankumar> ok
[17:48] <bubble_beam> hello
[17:48] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, I may have had to do one more thing, but IIRC that script was all I needed
[17:48] <Vivekananda> sudormrf: and which file / command will tell me if this is the case  ?  will a route -n or nmap from the client computer that was successful
[17:48] <bubble_beam> i cant manage my networks
[17:48] <MikeySoarece> hello
[17:48] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, check where daftykins recommended
[17:48] <bubble_beam> i mean , the icon for that is missing from the panel
[17:49] <Vivekananda> sudormrf: okay. I will have to ask my boss about it
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> cassio3, Don't forget you are the one seeking help here, and this is free volunteer help it has a communication norm that includes at least respect for that scenario.
[17:49] <bubble_beam> hi MikeySoarece
[17:49] <daftykins> Vivekananda: just "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[17:50] <MikeySoarece> i install epic5 irc client, how i change betwen channel windows
[17:50] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, yeah.  the default behavior for OpenVPN is what you are experiencing
[17:50] <MikeySoarece> or it just one window
[17:50] <daftykins> MikeySoarece: this isn't IRC client support
[17:50] <MikeySoarece> ?
[17:50] <Vivekananda> daftykins: can i do this from my side ? or do I have to ask the server admin to do it and send me the output ?
[17:50] <MikeySoarece> clear
[17:50] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, if you do what daftykins says, the value should return a 1
[17:50] <daftykins> Vivekananda: depends if you can get a shell on the VPN endpoint machine
[17:51] <Vivekananda> daftykins: endpoint = client  or server ?   currently the server is remote and I am the client
[17:52] <daftykins> Vivekananda: dude, i know you said you don't know networking, but what's the task we're working on here? :) routing on the server, heh - so on the server.
[17:52] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, can you SSH to the server?
[17:53] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, meaning does your account have the rights to do so
[17:53] <Vivekananda> daftykins: okay
[17:54] <kirankumar> if i am stop this process now . next time start it  start from startly
[17:54] <Vivekananda> sudormrf: nope I dont think so guess will have to reach out and wait
[17:54] <Vivekananda> kirankumar: people here would be able to give better recommendations but usually a distribution upgrade is a serious process and you need to make sure you have constant electricity  + net up until you finish the upgrade
[17:55] <Vivekananda> is what I know
[17:55] <Vivekananda> sudormrf: btw should I undo the changes I made from here  http://askubuntu.com/questions/320921/having-dns-issues-when-connected-to-a-vpn-in-ubuntu-13-04
[17:55] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, ok.  well you know what you need to do :).  good luck.  I am leaving.
[17:55] <Vivekananda> sudormrf: thanks and yes I will ping
[17:55] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, nah.
[17:56] <Vivekananda> whenever I see you again
[17:56] <Vivekananda> tomorrow maybe ?
[17:56] <Vivekananda> or late night or something ?
[17:56] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, all that did was change the "nameserver" display in /etc/resolv.conf from <IP_ADDRESS> to whatever the nameserver is
[17:56] <Vivekananda> sudormrf: I also commented out the demasq line
[17:56] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, I am usually in here all the time.  can't guarantee I will be reading or that I will have the answers, but I can do my best.  I personally have experienced the same issue you have, so yeah
[17:56] <kirankumar> @vivekananda : ok thanks ,so i have to wait until upgration process is complete sir.
[17:57] <sudormrf> Vivekananda, yeah, all that does is change what you see for nameserver.  you can leave it.
[17:57] <sudormrf> k.  got go to now.
[17:57] <Vivekananda> kirankumar: I guess so !!
[17:57] <Vivekananda> thanks
[17:59] <Vivekananda> daftykins: if what sudormr  says is true then how come when I took the steps in there ( http://askubuntu.com/questions/320921/having-dns-issues-when-connected-to-a-vpn-in-ubuntu-13-04)   I  saw a new nameserver line added to the resolv.conf  after a vpn connection but did not see this happening  before . the new line that gets added is like  :  nameserver : 10.x.x.x  and this belongs to vpn connection
[18:01] <daftykins> Vivekananda: a moment ago we were talking about IP forwarding for routing, now you're jumping to DNS... are you aware of the difference?
[18:01] <kirankumar> Vivekananda :   sir if any problem occures some like electricity down ya net is down at the end time of upgration . so we have to repeat all process ?
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, Backup and clone the original, than you can do what you want, as you are prepared.
[18:02] <kirankumar> yah
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[18:02] <NGC982> I'm having issues with the send-keys command in tmux again. I'm trying to simulate the enter key (to execute), but it always writes out the "Enter" word instead. I can't remember how i got it working since. :/
[18:02] <NGC982> For now, i used: "tmux send-keys -t 0 helloworld Enter"
[18:02] <maddawg2> bleh...  i gotta give more RAM to my ubuntu install
[18:02] <NGC982> gandaliter: Are you around? :-)
[18:02] <maddawg2> thankgod for vmware
[18:03] <Vivekananda> kirankumar: as wilee-nilee said :)
[18:03] <cortexman> how do I build a termcap shared library? the configure script doesn't support --disable-static --enable-shared
[18:03] <kirankumar> yah
[18:04] <simbageoleo> i need help installing my wireless driver please
[18:04] <SchrodingersScat> !broadcom | simbageoleo
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> simbageoleo, Sure give us the hardwrae info should show if you run lspci in the cli.
[18:05] <daftykins> Vivekananda: to be honest the first thing i do is murder resolvconf on systems, all it does is make life harder
[18:05] <Vivekananda> daftykins: I had done that step myself before I came in here for help. Just wanted to make sure if 1. I needed to undo it  2.  trying to understand something I observed that happened on making the change  but you are right  coz you already said dns resolutoin is not connected to ip forwarding.  I am waiting for the output from the remote server admin about the cat ...  command and in the meantime I thought I should make sure the other stuff is in o
[18:05] <Vivekananda> rder.  But no worries I will wait for that first
[18:06] <simbageoleo>  Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
[18:07] <daftykins> Vivekananda: although, i haven't actually followed your issue closely, so i don't know if you're trying to contact a system on the 'work' network by IP or name
[18:07] <Vivekananda> daftykins: I tried a ping using both after I got a 'vpn successfully connected' on network manager on 12.04
[18:08] <thedoctor> no help
[18:08] <kirankumar> sir i think if i am stop my upgration process  in between . now next time it start from paused. is required? yes or no sir
[18:08] <thedoctor> upgration ?
[18:08] <kirankumar> yes
[18:08] <thedoctor> not a word
[18:09] <thedoctor> use spell check.
[18:09] <kirankumar> yah
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> simbageoleo, might be worth looking through this solved thread, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=309041 kinda old is all.
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man4/iwi.4freebsd.html more simbageoleo
[18:10] <kirankumar> my meanig is that .  linux have to preserve ya store  a data  if any interuption occcuress during upgration process.
[18:10] <thedoctor> it might not
[18:10] <daftykins> Vivekananda: ok, yeah definitely more wrong than just DNS... but having the VPN's DNS added *in addition* to your local isn't going to help much, but that's a few steps further on :D
[18:11] <thedoctor> i dont see why it would have too.
[18:11] <thedoctor> you hose your install its your deal not the fault of linux or the distro.
[18:11] <daftykins> thedoctor: either be helpful or stay silent please.
[18:12] <thedoctor> excuse me ?
[18:12] <thedoctor> geez
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> there is a history of issue there anyway
[18:12] <gdm85> I think debootstrap could parallelize its downloads. or is that done on purpose to not overload mirrors?
[18:13] <thedoctor> dont be rude
[18:13] <satrapes> hello fellow ubuntians
[18:13] <thedoctor> yo
[18:13] <kirankumar> good night every body . thanks for possitive reply . i wait until upgration process
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> gdm85, can apt-fast be used in that scenario?
[18:13] <thedoctor> upgration lol
[18:13] <satrapes> I have been trying to solve a problem for some days and can't seem to find it
[18:13] <bazhang> !behelpful
[18:13] <satrapes> the solution that is
[18:14] <bazhang> thedoctor, see above
[18:14] <gdm85> wilee-nilee: perhaps. first time I hear about that :)
[18:14] <thedoctor> relax
[18:14] <thedoctor> no jokes
[18:14] <bazhang> thedoctor, take the chit chat elsewhere
[18:14] <satrapes> I had a problem when upgrading from 13.10 to 14.04
[18:14] <thedoctor> relax
[18:14] <last_romeo> hi
[18:14] <simbageoleo> i want to find the wireless drivers for my easynote e2310 how do i do this
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> gdm85, one other multi download apps I forget it's name is all.
[18:14] <last_romeo> I needed some assistance with my brightness keys
[18:15] <maddawg2> good luck with that one haha
[18:15] <last_romeo> is this the right place?
[18:15] <satrapes> there seems to be a combination of kernel panic and error: grub_term_highlight_color not found
[18:15] <last_romeo> sorryam new'
[18:15] <maddawg2> last_romeo what kind of computer?
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> last_romeo, If ubuntu sure, give us an outline.
[18:15] <Vivekananda> daftykins: btw I am not even sure if I set up the open vpn correctly ie I found that for some reason the cert import does not work well for ubuntu 12.04 so I had to break down the cert into parts and rename and then import them individually ( all by hand) . Does a ' vpn connection successful' clearly indicate that this is has been done correctly by me ?
[18:15] <last_romeo> hi maddawg
[18:15] <thedoctor> i wa saying i think ubuntu is a rolling release
[18:15] <last_romeo> i have an Asus Laptop withA4 5000
[18:15] <thedoctor> took long time to upgrade
[18:15] <gdm85> simbageoleo: first you should identify what type of hardware is there. usually you can find it in dmesg output, or some other command that enumerates your hardware devices
[18:16] <last_romeo> running Radeon hd 8330 and fglrx
[18:16] <maddawg2> well the GPU doesnt matter
[18:16] <gdm85> simbageoleo: do you already know what wifi chipset is there?
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> last_romeo, compact all info to one post.
[18:16] <last_romeo> kernel is 3.14
[18:16] <simbageoleo> built in or external card
[18:16] <last_romeo> ok..sorry wilee-nilee
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> last_romeo, NO prob that way you will get lost in the shuffele is all. ;)
[18:17] <satrapes> does anybody have a clue why would grub break from upgrading from 13.10 to 14.04?
[18:17] <daftykins> Vivekananda: i have no direct experience with it, is this a new setup by your boss he's trying to get you to test, or is it normally used by Windows people?
[18:17] <thedoctor> question is ubuntu a rolling relase ?
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> last_romeo, meant by not doing so.
[18:17] <simbageoleo> built in intel external belkin
[18:17] <bprompt> thedoctor:     what do you mean?
[18:17] <trism> satrapes: bug 1289977 has a description of how to fix it
[18:18] <thedoctor> wrone person to ask i gusse
[18:18] <bprompt> thedoctor:    they have explicit scheduled releases, yes
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, many variables, there is a app though tha is good for analysis, you want that?
[18:18] <thedoctor> well was asking any one
[18:18] <satrapes> yes please
[18:18] <nimbiotics> hello all. I'm using ubuntu v14.04LTS with MATE. I have a Plantronics 995H wireless headset that was working fine ... until I installed some updates today. Can someone please help me understand what is going on and how to fix it? TIA!
[18:18] <satrapes> I have tried most of first page of google solutions to no avail
[18:18] <NGC982> hmz.
[18:18] <last_romeo> Fn+ brightness up or down not working all other keys like mute and volume work,  even screen off works, AMD A4 5000 laptop with kernel 3.14
[18:19] <thedoctor> i mean u can upgrade with out a fresh iso every time.
[18:19] <gdm85> simbageoleo: I can't know. which one do you want to use?
[18:19] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  this is a repair app, on the gui is the bootinfo summary, you can run that alone and do no repairs, post the out out url of it.
[18:19] <simbageoleo> well the internal one
[18:20] <simbageoleo> please
[18:20] <bprompt> thedoctor:     you could, but just with with any other software or OSes, is prone to not work perfect, installed fresh from .iso delivers more reliability, then again, that's true of pretty much other OSes
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> !who | simbageoleo
[18:20] <thedoctor> its fine
[18:20] <captain-nemo> anyone available to answer a dual-boot question for the nearish future?
[18:20] <thedoctor> it offer it
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> captain-nemo, NOt a really good way to approach it, but go ahead.
[18:21] <last_romeo> anyone,fixed the brightness issue for themselves?
[18:21] <thedoctor> also how i restore permissions ?
[18:21] <simbageoleo> !gdm85 i want to us the intel one please
[18:21] <captain-nemo> brand new hard drive for messed up dell inpiron...wanna dual boot ubuntu 14 w/ fedora 20...I'm assuming the best way is probably to install ubuntu 14 first right? i know we're all biased in here lol but opinions are welcome
[18:22] <last_romeo> #help
[18:22] <simbageoleo> !who
[18:22] <maddawg2> i'd try to help last_romeo but i realized the reason why my brightness controls work is cuz i'm using vmware
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> captain-nemo, Does not matter with 2 linux installs
[18:22] <Hachya_Home> join #python
[18:22] <captain-nemo> directed at thedoctor
[18:22] <Hachya_Home> fuck
[18:22] <bprompt> thedoctor:    how to restore permissions?   doesn't that require a known permission set to begin with?   so, there's an assumption permissions are not this or that, then again..... that's almost like asking someone "where are my car keys?"   well, if one is not there, one wouldn't know
[18:22] <simbageoleo> !gdm85 test
[18:22] <thedoctor> im having issues withj copying folders
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> !language | Hachya_Home
[18:22] <thedoctor> says im not the owner
[18:22] <last_romeo> ok.. thanks maddawg2
[18:23] <last_romeo> any guesses anyone
[18:23] <satrapes> ok the info is in http://paste.ubuntu.com/7614247
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> !tab > captain-nemo
[18:23] <thedoctor> im admin
[18:23] <cadefy> hi
[18:23] <captain-nemo> lol no owner of course ill be on later still figuring out irc in general sorry guys
[18:23] <bprompt> !chmod | thedoctor
[18:24] <maddawg2> since you aren't I cant really point you to a fix last_romeo, however I would suggest you look at this:  http://nikunjlahoti.com/2012/04/29/ubuntu-12-04-fix-fn-brightness-keys/ .... it's a different computer but maybe it will have the same fix
[18:24] <thedoctor> never mind
[18:24] <simbageoleo> !tab gdm85 test
[18:24] <thedoctor> ill ask else were.
[18:24] <thedoctor> im a bot too.
[18:24]  * bprompt thinks thedoctor  needs a "checkup"
[18:24] <thedoctor> just kidding
[18:24] <gdm85> simbageoleo: you should check if your easynote has an RT2500 wifi
[18:24] <Vivekananda> daftykins: no this is a limitation ( as far as I read) of ubuntu 12.04 that is installed on my machine ( ie the client) .  what I did was described here :  http://naveensnayak.wordpress.com/2013/03/04/ubuntu-openvpn-with-ovpn-file/
[18:25] <thedoctor> i was hopping it was a command in the terminal
[18:25] <simbageoleo> whats that
[18:25] <cadefy> why does my laptop mouse scroll not work?
[18:25] <last_romeo> maddawg2 it hasnt worked i tried
[18:25] <thedoctor> settings
[18:25] <maddawg2> oh
[18:25] <maddawg2> then yea.. sorry i cant help
[18:25] <thedoctor> top left coner
[18:25] <thedoctor> gear icon
[18:25] <bprompt> thedoctor:   you can run "chmod" recursively, yes,   check the info above given by ubottu
[18:25] <daftykins> Vivekananda: that's a lovely link but until you get IP forwarding checked to understand whether it's meant to work, there's not much point wasting any time theorising
[18:25] <maddawg2> off to shower now
[18:26] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7614247
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> cadefy, THe scroll wheel? context and details needed.
[18:26] <bprompt> !chown | thedoctor
[18:26] <thedoctor> no thanks
[18:26] <last_romeo> hi,Fn+ brightness up or down not working all other keys like mute and volume work,  even screen off works, AMD A4 5000 laptop with kernel 3.14..
[18:26] <simbageoleo> @gdm85 test
[18:27]  * gdm85 somebody just won an /ignore
[18:27] <daftykins> thedoctor: please stop using enter as punctuation
[18:27] <Vivekananda> daftykins: that reminds me of sherlock :). It is a capital mistake to theorize before you have all the data. One insensibly starts twisting facts to suit theories rather than theories to suit facts
[18:27] <thedoctor> omg really
[18:27] <cortexman> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/brianmingus/0e5e2bf030389d129248/raw/f523344a5aba1a05cdc770bf0cd919ec80225409/gistfile1.txt
[18:27] <cadefy> wilee-nilee, laptops have a scroll feature on the track pad, doesnt work on ubuntu?
[18:27] <simbageoleo> how do i check that please
[18:27] <daftykins> Vivekananda: very wise indeed, is that from the BBC series?
[18:27] <thedoctor> i told him the gear
[18:28] <OerHeks> last_romeo, what laptop exact?
[18:28] <thedoctor> moving on
[18:28] <Vivekananda> daftykins: that is straight from conan doyle :) the creater of the super slueth
[18:28] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, you have inserted grub in the sda2 partition the main OS partition, some how. http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, Can you describe what happens when you try to boot ubuntu or W7?
[18:29] <thedoctor> how do i force quit ?
[18:30] <daftykins> Vivekananda: ah good stuff :)
[18:30] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: first of all I have set up a dual boot system in a single hdd with win7 installed first according to the following guide http://www.iceflatline.com/2009/09/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-and-linux-using-bcdedit/
[18:30] <thedoctor> update manager is acting funny
[18:31] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: when I boot up I get a windows bootloader menu with choice for Linux and Windows 7
[18:31] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: if i select windows I can boot normally no problem and if i try to boot Linux I just get grub rescue prompt
[18:32] <thedoctor> i got it
[18:32] <simbageoleo> lease can someone help me with my wireless intel card
[18:32] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: no grub prompt. Before updating when you chose Linux from the first menu you would go to the grub menu and you had ubuntu advanced options memtest and windows bootloader to return to the first menu
[18:34] <lex_> все доброй ночи !!!
[18:34] <simbageoleo> please can someone help me install my wireless drivers
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, Thanks that is what happens when you put grub in windows, it has to be removed is all.
[18:38] <JerryP> has anyone been able to get OSX to run in VirtualBox on ubuntu 14.04? I get "no root UUID found for boot device" Loading Drivers... Error loading drivers. Boot Failed. EFI DVD/CDROM
[18:38] <daftykins> simbageoleo: can you describe the situation... what did you install and what's happening?
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> !ru | lex_
[18:38] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: what do you mean? remove grub from windows?
[18:39] <simbageoleo> well i am on ethernet but wast to have wireless but no wireless is showing up
[18:39] <jack-> JerryP, shrug? i was planning to do the same
[18:39] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: also thank you very much for your help
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, It is as it sounds, look at that url and sda2 it shows grub in sda2 the windows C
[18:39] <JerryP> I may fire up windows to see if it works there to see if it is a linux issue or a virtualbox issue
[18:41] <jack-> good luck :) let me know when you have osx running
[18:41] <OerHeks> JerryP, licence say you are not allowed, and VirtualBox is not going to work without hacks and special drivers. so it is offtopic.
[18:41] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: ok i saw that now. So i should reinstall windows so that it is going to write on top of that or I must find a way to remove grub2 from sda2?
[18:42] <daftykins> simbageoleo: and it's the intel 2200bg you said? which ubuntu version?
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, Kind of unusual, we generally see grub put into sda1 the windows boot partition. Us e  live ubuntu, open sda2 and run grub in the search of that partition and just delete any grub that comes up. Be sure this is sda2 only.
[18:42] <revscript> lf help with 14.04 install issues pertaining to partitioning
[18:42] <daftykins> simbageoleo: can you open a terminal with ctrl+alt+t, then run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" enter your password to install that program, then run "sudo rfkill list all | pastebinit" and share the link here
[18:42] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: ok thank you very much you are a lifesaver
[18:43] <simbageoleo> cheers
[18:43] <revscript> i need help with 14.04 install issues pertaining to partitioning
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, That should work, you might just need to reload grub to the mbr, after removin the grub in sda2 can be done with the repair on the gui of bootrepair
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> revscript, Cool, give us the scenario.
[18:45] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: last one to be sure so I will mount sda2 locate grub with whereis grub and rm everything grub that i find?
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, Yeah I would not use any rm command, just right click and delete is all
[18:46] <revscript> ok, I tried (2) different methods, first default install from USB flash. I used unetbootin to create the image. Upon booting from USB I get Ubuntu installer. I dont remember the message from the default, but when I tried to custom partition it hangs at SCSCI2 (0, 0,...) ext 4 part
[18:46] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: ok thanks again
[18:47] <simbageoleo> where is pastebin located
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, N prob rm is a powerful command is all, you may have meant that as an acronym, I just am careful here that I understand. ;)
[18:47] <revscript> im running Windows 7 on this Machine. I have (2) hard drives, the one with Win, and a SSD which I am trying to install the Ubuntu on.
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> No*
[18:47] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: no i understand
[18:48] <daftykins> simbageoleo: what do you mean?
[18:48] <daftykins> simbageoleo: running the above commands will install a package called 'pastebinit' then run a command which will send the output of that command to pastebin.com or some other site and provide a link in order to share that command's output to here.
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> revscript, Can you from the live run sudo parted -l and pastebin it?
[18:49] <simbageoleo> http://pastebin.com/5mALskvE
[18:49] <simbageoleo> is that it
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> simbageoleo, Is that pastebin for another user?
[18:49] <revscript> wilee, explain from live run
[18:50] <simbageoleo> yes daftykins
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> revscript, The booted ubuntu install media for install.
[18:50] <revscript> so youre saying run without install and run that command
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> revscript, You stuck right, it will not install?
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> Your*
[18:51] <skinux> What is the group 'Whoopsie' for?
[18:51] <skinux> it's a file/directory group
[18:51] <trism> !info whoopsie | skinux
[18:52] <revscript> yes i tried to create a space for swap and for / and it hangs during install, it says ext4 SCSI2 (0,0,0) or something with the hand, under detail the last process is UserInfo
[18:52] <skinux> So, why exactly are files changed to that group?
[18:52] <simbageoleo> !daftykins http://pastebin.com/5mALskvE
[18:52] <JerryP> jack-, simple case of RTFM. I read something backwards, seems to be working now
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> revscript, For me I just want to see the HD's and any partitons there now, that is what the command does. And preface all responses to another with their nick.
[18:53] <trism> skinux: it's a daemon, that's just how you do it, otherwise it would run as root
[18:53] <simbageoleo> how do i messege someone with the red text
[18:53] <revscript> It also will not detect my wifi so not sure I can access pastebin
[18:53] <daftykins> simbageoleo: ok, hmm... it seems to believe there are two wireless interfaces - are you absolutely sure there are no wireless hardware switches on this system (is it a laptop?) that have the wireless turned off?
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> simbageoleo, use their nick as a preface
[18:53] <ZarakiKenpachi> When i select Automatic partition resizing does it resize all partitions or just one it wants ?
[18:53] <JerryP> I always see an error everytime I boot, but linux continues to run anyway. Is there a way to check what this error is and see if I can get rid of it?
[18:53] <JerryP> 14.04
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> JerryP, And the error is?
[18:54] <revscript> it told me that it would recognize it, but i assume its not detecting the wireless card?
[18:54] <skinux> So, files are changed to that group if they have been included in an error report?
[18:54] <simbageoleo> daftykins yes there is no physical switch its a packard bell e2310
[18:54] <trism> skinux: which files are you talking about specifically?
[18:54] <JerryP> wilnee-nilee, unfortunately it goes away so quick that I cant get it. And it is before linux starts, so I dont think I can print screen. anyway to look it up?
[18:54] <NGC982> How on earth do i load TCL scripts in irssi?
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> revscript, plug in ethernet
[18:54] <skinux> One is /var/www/metrics
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> !who | revscript
[18:55] <daftykins> simbageoleo: try typing "sudo rfkill unblock all"
[18:55] <nimbiotics> hello all. I'm using ubuntu v14.04LTS with MATE. I have a Plantronics 995H wireless headset that was working fine until I installed some updates a couple use the pulse audio control to indicate which input/output that application wants to use. How can I fix this??
[18:56] <simbageoleo> daftykins, nothing appeared to happen
[18:56] <trism> skinux: sure you don't mean /var/metrics?
[18:56] <jack-> JerryP, cool :)
[18:56] <skinux> It might be supposed to be /var/metrics, but it's in /var/www/metrics
[18:56] <EleanorEllis> I have stuttering audio on Ubuntu 14.04. It happens on DVDs, youtube videos, BBC iplayer and even today on music played from my hard drive. It makes no difference whether it is pre-recorded material or a live stream. Where do I start looking? I have already disabled automute in alsamixer as recommended here http://askubuntu.com/questions/157554/choppy-stuttery-sped-up-sound-after-update
[18:57] <daftykins> simbageoleo: ok, can you do "lspci | pastebinit" and "ifconfig -a | pastebinit"
[18:57] <trism> skinux: hmm I'm not sure then, that's kind of weird
[18:57] <skinux> Oh wait! It is /var/metrics, may bad
[18:57] <jack-> JerryP, which osx version are you using?
[18:57] <revscript> wilee-nilee, my other question is if i can use wubi.exe to install from windows. In one method I was using it appeared to have an install from windows method?
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> JerryP, tab complete nicks so spelled correctly, check that fstab has the correct UUID
[18:58] <daftykins> revscript: i believe i speak for all of the helpers here when i say that WUBI should be avoided at all costs
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> revscript, Wubi is a not supported past 12.04, and it has only one supporter, yes one, not a good idea for install.
[18:59] <trism> skinux: yeah that should be for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker#Invitation_for_metrics_collection
[18:59] <revscript> daftykins, ok if so, then should i be trying default install or "something else" method?
[19:00] <simbageoleo> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/tHP00Zw0 http://pastebin.com/eisJQ252
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> revscript, default is best if you have an unallocated area already for install.
[19:00] <arthurfiggis> EleanorEllis: this is probably something that you've checked already, but you might want to run "top" in a console and check to see if there's some process that's using up loads of CPU/bogging the machine down...i had a similar problem with kubuntu, but it turned out to be the file indexer baloo blowing up in the background :(
[19:00] <nimbiotics> hello all. I'm using ubuntu v14.04LTS with MATE. I have a Plantronics 995H wireless headset that was working fine until I installed some updates a couple of days ago. Now I have use the pulse audio control to indicate which input/output each application wants to use EVERYTIME. How can I fix this??
[19:00] <daftykins> revscript: i didn't follow your query so i don't know if you're dualbooting or ubuntu is to be the only OS, etc
[19:01] <revscript> wilee-nilee, the particular issue I think is there are multiple guides and I am not really sure which are correct in regards to partitioning...that is assuming my issue is being caused by partitioning. It is supposed to be unallocated, however I get a message after the space slider screen and it says something pertaining to root
[19:01] <daftykins> simbageoleo: what do you get if you run "lsmod | grep -i ipw" ?
[19:02] <anoldhacker> I'm running 10.4 on an older box.  This last update has fouled up power manager during login & firefox. ?????
[19:02] <EleanorEllis> arthurfiggis: Chrome is fluctuating up to about 21% but this happens even when I have nothing running other than my audio players (Audacious and QuodLibet)
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> revscript, Helping here really relies on us seeing what is actually there, or spot on descriptions, I will only help if I see it.
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> revscript, We will need hard data from that computer in other words get it to the web, or use a usb to transfer info.
[19:03] <revscript> wilee-nilee, yeah i know, im going to try to run it on a VMware and confirm that the image/source is good and then I can use that as a reference point. I will see if I can get something on a usb drive then and return here with the info
[19:03] <simbageoleo> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/BvjQQ89d
[19:04] <arthurfiggis> EleanorEllis: hmm...yeah, that doesn't really seem to be enough to make an impact, sorry...just a guess :) out of curiousity what sort of sound card/onboard chip do you have? it should be listed by the output of lspci
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> revscript, Yeah a VM would be a good start, and maybe the best scenario at this point. ;)
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> revscript, You can sum check the iso, and or usb/dvd
[19:05] <revscript> wilee-nilee, explain sum check
[19:05] <daftykins> simbageoleo: sorry that these commands are never ending :) also "dmesg | grep ipw" please
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | revscript
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> anoldhacker, If this is a desktop 10.04 it is eol and not supported except for upgrades to a release supported like 12.04.
[19:07] <anoldhacker> 10.04 is LTS-- that's 5 years.
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> phunyguy, That answer you like?^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[19:07] <EleanorEllis> arthurfiggis: I mean the stuttering happens even when there is nothing running other than the audio player. Total CPU load seems to be about 36%. The built in audio device is an intel http://paste.ubuntu.com/7614434/. This stuttering also happens with a USB sound module so it is device independent.
[19:07] <simbageoleo> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/uUfWCCb1
[19:07] <anoldhacker> And I just got another set of updates two days ago...
[19:07] <daftykins> simbageoleo: mmm "ipw2200: Radio Frequency Kill Switch is On:"
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> 10.04 | anoldhacker the desktop is eol period
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> !10.04 | anoldhacker the desktop is eol period
[19:08] <EleanorEllis> arthurfiggis: My top looks like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7614443/
[19:08] <simbageoleo> daftykins, how do i disable it please
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> anoldhacker,  Desktop support ended May 9 2013.
[19:08] <anoldhacker> Now that's really annoying.
[19:09] <daftykins> simbageoleo: not sure yet, still reading - you're sure there's no function key along the top row with a wireless icon on it which needs pressing with an 'Fn' key?
[19:09] <anoldhacker> Especially since I have a strong dislike for Unity.
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> anoldhacker, Can be but that is the issue, it is info you should know is all.
[19:09] <anoldhacker> ty
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> anoldhacker, About 50 possible desktops to use, so take your pick. ;)
[19:10] <simbageoleo> daftykins, tryed that kill switch still on
[19:10] <anoldhacker> Well, that's going to make this a lot of fun...
[19:11] <daftykins> simbageoleo: the dmesg command is a log of things that already happened, so to press the keys now a full reboot would be needed to check if anything changed
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> anoldhacker, If it were me I would backup what is needed and throw 14.04 there just released and 5 years support.
[19:11] <daftykins> simbageoleo: also, did you say what version this is? sorry i forgot
[19:11] <EleanorEllis> arthurfiggis: Sometimes the audio repeats for about half a second (up to about 3 times but this is random, sometimes it is just once) and sometimes it just stops momentarily and then restarts
[19:11] <anoldhacker> I recently picked up an external usb drive, so that's an option.
[19:11] <anoldhacker> I just had other things to do today...
[19:11] <simbageoleo> daftykins, its the latiest ver of lubuntu
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> anoldhacker, Cool, let us know what help you need if any, you seem able to do this.
[19:12] <anoldhacker> I expect so, it's just a pain.
[19:12] <anoldhacker> l8r
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> ;) yeah
[19:12] <robynata>  :-S
[19:13] <EleanorEllis> arthurfiggis: I don't think I had these problems before Ubuntu 14.04 but I can't really remember. There were various problems with 12.04 which I never bothered to fix as 14.04 was coming out soon. Perhaps I should try a non buntu distro or even debian.
[19:14] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: I am sorry to trouble you again but I can't remove grub from sda2 I don't know the exact commands could you please tell me how to do it
[19:15] <arthurfiggis> EleanorEllis: hmm...i've been looking around trying to see if there's any special parameters you have to pass to the module for that chip but i haven't found anything yet, sorry :( sometimes, like in the case of intel hda, there's actually a wide range of chips that are covered and sometimes they're not autodetected correctly...although if it's also happening with a usb sound module then...
[19:15] <arthurfiggis> ...that's not helpful either :(  looking at top there's not much to suggest a process going out of whack either
[19:16] <daftykins> simbageoleo: did you say this has worked before, or is this the first time this laptop is being used with ubuntu ?
[19:16] <simbageoleo> first time
[19:16] <arthurfiggis> EleanorEllis: i'd suggest sticking around here all the same, someone who is more familiar with the sound subsystem in recent versions of ubuntu might well have an easy answer, i'm just kind of throwing ideas out there :) but yes, if you try another distro say with a live cd or dvd, and you don't have the problem....that might just indicate something weird going on with your computer and the...
[19:16] <arthurfiggis> ...kernel that 14.04 provides?
[19:16] <simbageoleo> daftykins, first time
[19:16] <EleanorEllis> arthurfiggis: I just remembered update manager has been nagging me about rebooting. Maybe I should do that and see if something in the update has changed.
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, No commands just right click it and send to trash or enable delete to delete it.
[19:17] <daftykins> simbageoleo: are you familiar with the BIOS? have a look at reply #3 here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/202541
[19:17] <satrapes> wilee-nilee when i search the sda2 there is no grub file
[19:17] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: when i search the sda2 there is no grub file
[19:17] <arthurfiggis> EleanorEllis: that might be a good idea actually, there's been a few kernel updates pushed out since the release so if one of them fixes the sound problem...so much the better :) but you won't notice those without rebooting, i don't think
[19:18] <arthurfiggis> (if it doesn't then stop back here, I'm sure if it's a common on-board chip someone has had the same problem :) )
[19:18] <EleanorEllis> arthurfiggis: I will reboot now and come back to you. I have been resisting it for a few days as I have multiple browser windows open with something I am working on. Hopefully chrome will open the remaining pages.
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, The bootinfo summary says there is grub there. look in sda1 as well, I suspect you search is wrong just use the search in nautilus
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> your
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, Commands are good if you know them explicitly, and a drag if you don't.
[19:21] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: i mounted /dev/sda2 in /mnt and could see the contents of the files clearly and searched in nautilus for grub in the program files folder for vim
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, In sda2 hit the search icon at the top of nautilus and type in grub.
[19:21] <Clinteger> hi, I'm installing Ubuntu 14.04 on an EFI Mac as the only OS. It doesn't seem to want to install the boot loader so it doesn't boot..
[19:21] <satrapes> wilee-nilee that is exactly what i did
[19:22] <daftykins> Clinteger: that's not greatly surprising, just keep OS X and resize its' partition to the smallest you can get away with
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, no need to mount other than with a click on that partition in the left panel of nautilus
[19:22] <Clinteger> daftykins: I don't have OS X to keep.
[19:22] <daftykins> Clinteger: oh, no discs?
[19:23] <Clinteger> no
[19:23] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: still no grub files perhaps because it is a windows partition it is hidden?
[19:23] <Clinteger> well I had arch on here before
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, If you are sudo mounting that may be the issue
[19:23] <Clinteger> and that booted fine
[19:23] <simbageoleo> daftykins, what do i do now
[19:23] <daftykins> simbageoleo: did you look at the page i linked with point #3 referring to check in the BIOS?
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, ctrl-h unhides, could be not sure.
[19:24] <Jammerx2> I'm unable to select speakers as an output device while headphones are plugged in, the usual option "Analog Output" that is used for speakers still goes to headphones when I select it (there is an alternative "Headphones" option, both go to headphones).
[19:24] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: i didn't sudo mount now it was already mounted with the livecd
[19:24] <simbageoleo> daftykins, and no i am not familiar with the ios
[19:24] <simbageoleo> daftykins, and no i am not familiar with the bios
[19:24] <EleanorEllis> arthurfiggis: No luck unfortunately. It's just as bad after a reboot
[19:25] <daftykins> simbageoleo: it's a setup like utility that can be accessed after powering on, by repeatedly pressing a key to access it. sometimes that key is Delete, sometimes it's F2... F8, F9... etc :)
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> satrapes,  look with this info Grub2 (v1.97-1.98) in the file /linux.bin
[19:25] <simbageoleo> cheers will do that now
[19:25] <daftykins> simbageoleo: you want to have a look in there to reset settings to defaults, or look for a wireless option
[19:26] <EleanorEllis> arthurfiggis: It was very embarassing when this was happening while I was DJing to 300 swing dancers. I thought at the time it was because I had my music on an NTFS volume which was perhaps fragmented so I defragged it and was able to continue with my set. Later I moved all my music onto an ext4 volume and junked the ext4 volume. But now it is still happening.
[19:27] <Clinteger> ah ok
[19:27] <Clinteger> daftykins: apparently the efi boot partition has to be formatted as hfs+ not vfat
[19:27] <daftykins> Clinteger: interesting - i'm not sure Linux support of hfs+ is all that great, but oh well :)
[19:27] <Clinteger> unfortunately the arch wiki is down :|
[19:28] <Clinteger> daftykins: it works well enough read only :)
[19:28] <daftykins> mmm but to install you'll need to write to it, right?
[19:28] <Clinteger> yes
[19:28] <Clinteger> you can mount it write, it works fine too
[19:28] <daftykins> Clinteger: i take it right now you're just stalling at the white screen of doom?
[19:29] <daftykins> oh ok - i thought i saw someone in here having great issues with it before
[19:29] <Clinteger> yep
[19:29] <Clinteger> i was using gummiboot with arch
[19:29] <Clinteger> it worked fine
[19:29] <Clinteger> with the efistub in the kernel
[19:29] <simbageoleo> daftykins, there was no option in there to turn the wireless on
[19:30] <EleanorEllis> arthurfiggis: Trouble is I don't really want to dump ubuntu altogether now that I have my computer setup the way I want it just because audio stutters.
[19:30] <daftykins> simbageoleo: how about anything relating to the wireless at all? or an option to load defaults?
[19:30] <arthurfiggis> EleanorEllis: hmm...not so simple as just an old module then, that's a pain :( as i say i'm not much of an expert on sound, although for live performances that you need better response times for, you might want to try one of the "realtime" kernels and JACK as a combination...it certainly produces better response times for me :)
[19:30] <simbageoleo> daftykins, not that i could see
[19:30] <arthurfiggis> EleanorEllis: there was a "studio" re-spin of ubuntu i think, that might be worth looking into just to see if it performs better on the same system
[19:30] <simbageoleo> daftykins, let me check again to see if i missed anything
[19:30] <daftykins> simbageoleo: it should do on a save and exit page, perhaps - depends, they're all different a lot of the time
[19:31] <daftykins> simbageoleo: one more thing...
[19:31] <EleanorEllis> arthurfiggis: I am only playing a playlist from audacious, not doing live mixing or anything complicated that would need a real time kernel.
[19:31] <daftykins> doh.
[19:31] <EleanorEllis> arthurfiggis: Plus I have tried setting up JACK in the past and everytime I have retreated in despair because I never manage to get it working.
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, This is just a rather unusual situation, not part of the upgrade, but grub was pointed at the sda2 somehow, or was deposited there per the script in the url. However things happens and not every command or script is empirically accurate so we are a bit in no mans land as far as my skills, which are pretty good in this area.
[19:32] <gdm85> E: Unable to find a source package for linux-image-3.13.0-27-generic
[19:32] <gdm85> which source do I need for that?
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> gdm85, context?
[19:32] <gdm85> wilee-nilee: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[19:33] <EleanorEllis> arthurfiggis: Anyway, Ubuntu Studio is simply regular ubuntu with the real time kernel and some media apps already installed. The only advantage I found was that JACK was already setup but that is a bit of a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> gdm85, what kernel are you running now I have 3.13.0-29
[19:33] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: thank you very much for your time
[19:33] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: i am trying to understand it myself
[19:33] <EleanorEllis> arthurfiggis: The other issue is that the real time kernel is then slower for almost everything else. And I really shouldnt need it simply to playback audio.
[19:33] <gdm85> wilee-nilee: ah, that might be it. I am running 3.13.0-27
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, No problem, hope we can resolve it, I do know other sources though, one is whom I learned most of this from.
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> gdm85, What does sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade show?
[19:35] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: you know what is weird that in sda2 in the boot file info it says grub2 while the boot file is /windows/system32/winload.exe
[19:35] <simbageoleo> daftykins, i reset to defult but nothing has happened
[19:35] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: that is perhaps why i can't find grub to delete it
[19:36] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: perhaps fixmbr will do the trick
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, no fixmbr wont work
[19:36] <gdm85> wilee-nilee: nothing. I installed most recent version but didn't reboot yet
[19:36] <daftykins> simbageoleo: can you re-run "ifconfig -a" to see if you see any interface other than eth0 and lo ?
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, post that scripts url here, this is an excellent helping thread.  satrapes
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[19:37] <simbageoleo> daftykins, i now have wlan0
[19:37] <JerryP> is there a way in ubuntu to look up the motherboard specs?
[19:38] <phillyj> hi, anyone know why I have to always modprobe my ethernet driver, after updates? It is inconviniet especially because my parents use the machine and I'm not always around
[19:38] <daftykins> simbageoleo: SUCCESS!
[19:38] <daftykins> simbageoleo: are you able to see any wireless networks listed when clicking the network manager icon top right?
[19:38] <simbageoleo> daftykins, so how do i connect to a wireless network i see no icon
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, anything grub in sda2 or sda1 is the problem, it does get deposited in the boot files area in general
[19:39] <daftykins> simbageoleo: it should be the same one as for your currently connected wired interface
[19:39] <simbageoleo> daftykins, i see sound some sort of keyboard and xchat in the bottom right
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, This is fixable, so it is a how long you wait for better help or work to do it.
[19:40] <daftykins> simbageoleo: do you see the one with the two arrows up and down? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Ubuntu_Unity_Keyboard_shortcuts_-_En.png
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> gdm85, YOU have run the commands I gave you and are updated?
[19:41] <simbageoleo> daftykins, this is lubuntu not ubuntu so the interface looks diffrnet
[19:41] <satrapes> wilee-nilee: thank you very much. I have been messing with this for 2-3 days now but thank you for all your help
[19:41] <JerryP> wilee-nilee: I'm not sure what you mean about the fstab UUID. I did sudo blkid and I have all of the UUID's. It also shows the labels and 1 UUID for the ntfs for my dual boot Win8. Maybe the error is just saying that I have Win8 drives that it cant read? There's no log of the error anywhere, huh?
[19:42] <phillyj> JerryP: you can try "sudo lshw | grep product" and it should be at the top of the output
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, No problem, that thread should get you fixed, you want help from a mod nicks is oldfred
[19:42] <daftykins> simbageoleo: ah ok - in that case you should've mentioned back when i asked what version :)
[19:42] <JerryP> wilee-nilee: oh and I checked the /etc/fstab file and it seems to match up
[19:42] <daftykins> simbageoleo: i've no idea how wireless is managed in lubuntu i'm afraid
[19:42] <Slidey> we upgraded from 12.10 to 14.04lts last night, and are now seeing really high latency on vms - pings between the host and the vms jump up massively on a seemingly random basis. anyone seen this elsewhere ?
[19:43] <satrapes> wilee-nilee:okz nice job
[19:43] <simbageoleo> daftykins, i did mention it 3 or 4 times
[19:43] <beheldbeat> hi
[19:44] <Clinteger> hmm
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> satrapes, The key of that bootinfo summary is that is accurate, so if you mess with it any more be sure that script shows exactly how it is, just rerunning is sufficient.
[19:44] <daftykins> simbageoleo: ah, oh well i'm between channels :)
[19:44] <Clinteger> so I'm in the ubuntu live cd, and I installed it on the disk but I need to install the bootloader :S How can I do this ?
[19:44] <simbageoleo> daftykins, is there somone that can help with it please
[19:44] <beheldbeat> hi boys
[19:45] <phillyj> so to make sure that my ethernet driver always loads on boot, should I just edit the /etc/modules? I just want to know that I won'd break anything
[19:46] <Ubnoobtu> Hey everyone!!!!! I have a question. Is there a Distro of ubuntu used for antivirus removal, rootkits, etc, that hasa GUI and can be installed on a USB using unetbootin?
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, In what OS would these be in?
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, removing that stuff is a waste of time a clean image would be used.
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, you never really know if you have gotten it all
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> in ms anyway
[19:48] <zamaliphe> !mysql 5.6
[19:48] <daftykins> simbageoleo: first google result - http://askubuntu.com/questions/322861/how-to-connect-to-wireless-network-in-lubuntu
[19:49] <phillyj> wilee-nilee: I think Ubnoobtu is asking about a live CD distro used for troubleshooting machines..I think?
[19:49] <alcides> guys, where is iptables rules in ubuntu? I mean, my rules are being reseted after reboots
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> phillyj, let us let them speak.
[19:50] <zamaliphe> upgrade mysql to 5.6 try to remove kde any help previnting that ?
[19:50] <Ubnoobtu> phillyj:  That's correct, pretty much. wilee-nilee, I know I could just reinstall win7 for my friend, but I'd like to show off a little bit with some neat and pwerful tools
[19:50] <mexi_d3> !info swat
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, Not a real usable scenario, if you need an ego boost get a cool haircut and snazzy clothes. ;)
[19:51] <mexi_d3> That package was there in Precise. *searches google*
[19:51] <simbageoleo> daftykins, wireless is greyed out
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, Any usable tools in linux in that are cli not a gui like in windows and than you have to research if the data is not a false red flag.
[19:52] <owen1> I have a terminal emulator that is 'stuck'. i can't use it and i can't kill it. i use the recent version of ubuntu and it happens on 2 different machines. is this output helpful to investigate this? paste.ubuntu.com/7611293/
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, no click and clean in linux here.
[19:53] <Ubnoobtu> ReaReally? I've been trying to use systemrescue, but it doesnt have what I want. I just want to load a bootable usb with clam and scan the windows hardrive
[19:53] <mexi_d3> Not found in package manager. What happened to this package in Trusty (swat): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Swat
[19:53] <daftykins> simbageoleo: i don't know how to get any further, it might still think wireless is disabled. what i was going to suggest earlier was pulling the mains + battery out, then boot up again
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, Honestly if you want to show off, inform that this is a reload of a clean image scenario, any legit IT pro would tell you that
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> not apps that seem to work
[19:54] <simbageoleo> daftykins, ah ok cheers
[19:55] <daftykins> mexi_d3: what are you after?
[19:55] <daftykins> was swat a firewall program? i forget
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> fly killer
[19:56] <mexi_d3> daftykins: Web gui for configuring samba
[19:56] <mexi_d3> daftykins: The package appears to be removed in trusty. Docs still imply it's there.
[19:56] <Ubnoobtu> wilee-nilee:  Alright, I guess I'll just load up the backup. bummer tho..... I want it to be like it was before the ransomware got on it for him
[19:57] <daftykins> mexi_d3: ah, what docs?
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, images/clones/backups are the best defense beyond correct use. Most problems in this area are basically user errors
[19:58] <mexi_d3> daftykins: You already saw the link.
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> or bad practices
[19:58] <jdsdsa> hello