[00:43] <CarlFK> cjenkin2: I think you misread - where to you see: won't be able to preseed these using any method besides through the initrd,
[00:45] <cjenkin2> CarlFK: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html
[00:45] <cjenkin2> Under the heading "Localization"
[00:48] <CarlFK> this?  "Setting localization values will only work if you are using initrd preseeding. With all other methods the preconfiguration file will only be loaded after these questions have been asked.  "
[00:49] <cjenkin2> Right
[00:49] <cjenkin2> Am I misreading it?
[00:49] <CarlFK> yes ;)
[00:50] <cjenkin2> You think you could help me read it correctly? xD What's the difference between localization values and selecting locale, language, keyboard?
[00:51] <CarlFK> I thinks so.. I am not an expert, but I know a bit about it
[00:51] <CarlFK> are you installing 12.10?
[00:52] <cjenkin2> No, 10.10
[00:53] <cjenkin2> on an ARM architecture, even
[00:56] <CarlFK> oh my ;)  Some of the keys (that's what I call the preseed file: keys and values) some of the keys may have changed
[00:57] <infinity> 10.10?  Seriously?
[00:57] <cjenkin2> That wouldn't surprise me.
[00:57] <infinity> Are you familiar with the concept of EOL software?
[00:57] <cjenkin2> infinity: Yup. And Linux kernel 2.6.38, even
[00:58] <cjenkin2> Yes, but the higher-ups think Canonical will host it forever regardless, and / or are willing to host it themselves if necessary
[00:58] <infinity> Erm, hosting isn't the issue, no one's FIXING it.
[00:58] <infinity> It's riddled with security holes.
[00:59] <antarus> isn't it beer oclock anyways? :p
[01:00] <cjenkin2> lol
[01:00] <cjenkin2> I don't think anyone's too concerned at this point about the security issues
[01:00] <CarlFK> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10  "The requested URL /10.10 was not found on this server."
[01:00] <cjenkin2> oh dear
[01:00] <CarlFK> in case the higher ups need some evidince
[01:00] <CarlFK> so not having the docs is going to add to the fun
[01:00] <cjenkin2> We have PowerDeveloper, it's fine
[01:01] <cjenkin2> --sarcasm
[01:01] <infinity> cjenkin2: You really, really should talk these higher ups into basing their work on an LTS (12.04 or 14.04)
[01:01] <infinity> Anyhow, the claim that you need to us initrd or cmdline presseing for locales may well be true.
[01:01] <antarus> base it on 10.04, that was na lts!
[01:01] <infinity> Not that cmdline preseeding is hard.
[01:01] <antarus> you have a good 10 months left ;p
[01:02] <infinity> antarus: I'm not sure if I should palm my own face, or yours.
[01:02] <cjenkin2> lol
[01:02] <infinity> antarus: Can we settle on both?
[01:02] <CarlFK> antarus: oh right.. and there are docs
[01:02] <CarlFK> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html
[01:03] <CarlFK> cjenkin2: I think what is confusing you:
[01:03] <cjenkin2> CarlFK: Ah, thanks! I trusted my former co-worker to link the the appropriate tutorial, should have checked the version
[01:04] <CarlFK> some values get asked before the preseed file can be loaded - good example is dhcp/static can not be read from a preseed file hosted on an http server
[01:04] <CarlFK> so in that case, the network settings have to be passed some other way
[01:04] <antarus> infinity: slap me? how dare you
[01:04] <CarlFK> like on the kernel line
[01:04] <antarus> infinity: sadly I am moving on from the land of Goobuntu, so I may troll in here less often
[01:05] <cjenkin2> CarlFK: I have a question about that actually. It seems strange to me to set one-time preseed values from the kernel bootargs
[01:06] <CarlFK> cjenkin2: keep in mind it is the line that boots the installer, not the kernel that gets installed
[01:06] <infinity> antarus: Aww.  What's the next career move for you?
[01:07] <cjenkin2> CarlFK: I should direct you again to my earlier comment: we install our OS onto the machine first, then re-run ubiquity
[01:07] <antarus> infinity: I'll be on the team that runs blobstore at google
[01:07] <cjenkin2> Wait, can you set the installer bootargs, have that configured as the default, then have it still be the default when you re-run?
[01:07] <infinity> antarus: I can only assume that's the codename for an online grocery store targetted at the average American?
[01:08] <CarlFK> cjenkin2: oh. I thought that was a workaround to not being able to do someting
[01:08] <antarus> infinity: oh no thats the real name of thing
[01:08] <infinity> antarus: Oh, like a storage thing, I guess?
[01:08] <antarus> yeah
[01:08] <cjenkin2> CarlFK: Nope. I think it was done in order to pre-image the hardware and give it to customers
[01:09] <infinity> cjenkin2: Err, wait, if you're using oem-config, why would you be preseeding locale?
[01:09] <CarlFK> I like cinder block better.  reminds me of the book shelves you build out of cinder blocks :D
[01:09] <infinity> cjenkin2: That's the whole POINT of oem-config, is to let the user pick.
[01:09] <cjenkin2> I would like to set defaults with preseeding, is all
[01:09] <cjenkin2> In particular,
[01:10] <cjenkin2> we have a stupid keyboard that I had to make a special layout for
[01:10] <cjenkin2> And I would like this to be the default layout at config time
[01:11] <cjenkin2> Also it's intended for Spanish speakers, but the default is US / English
[01:11] <infinity> So, I kinda missed the bit where you're using oem-config before.  The magic (relative term here) of oem-config is that it's operating on an already-installed system.
[01:11] <infinity> So, you install, you can configure things a certain way, then oem-config-prepare.
[01:11] <infinity> Which means between "install" and "prepare" would be where you'd configure your weird keyboard.
[01:12] <cjenkin2> Yes. And so the selected configuration will be the default when I run oem-config-prepare ?
[01:12] <infinity> Possibly.
[01:12] <xnox> infinity: cjenkin2: there is hidden magic to trigger pre-seeding oem-config end-user setup. This way keys that are preseeded are not asked for, but everything else is. (if any)
[01:12] <infinity> xnox: Keep in mind he's doing this on 10.10 (yes, really), so if oem-config works at all, it could be a mirable.
[01:12] <infinity> Or a miracle.
[01:13] <cjenkin2> xnox: I want the user to still make the choice
[01:13] <cjenkin2> My logic is: the keyboard is stupid and most people type from muscle memory, so they should have the option of selecting a keyboard that is they way their fingers work
[01:13] <cjenkin2> but it seems like the default should be what's actually on the printed keyboard
[01:15] <cjenkin2> infinity: Alright, I think I will try making the installer bootargs preseed keyboard, layout, and locale
[01:15] <xnox> cjenkin2: passing d-i locale and keyboard config on the kernel cmdline should achieve that, i think.
[01:15] <cjenkin2> and see if oem-config-prepare respects these choices
[01:15] <xnox> yeah, that's the best strategy.
[01:15] <cjenkin2> xnox: Cool :)
[01:15] <infinity> If it doesn't, you can just keep it on the cmdline for the firstboot too. :P
[01:16] <infinity> Oh, but I dunno if oem-config reads cmdline.
[01:16] <infinity> Well, this'll all be experimentation anyway.
[01:16] <cjenkin2> infinity: Right
[01:16] <infinity> Even if we all knew how it all works in oem-config in 14.04 (which, clearly, even the people who wrote half of it are fuzzy on), none of us have a clue how 10.10 works anymore. :)
[01:17] <infinity> Have I mentioned yet that you should use a newer Ubuntu? :)
[01:17] <cjenkin2> Thank you guys for being so helpful! :)
[01:17] <cjwatson> If pressed to ask without looking at the code, I'd be inclined to preseed oem-config by way of debconf-set-selections or similar, rather than by hoping that things like kernel args will work.
[01:17] <cjenkin2> infinity: lol. I'll talk to my bosses, but we have very few people to work on this
[01:17] <cjwatson> Should be more reliable.
[01:17] <infinity> If it's just a question of having a crappy vendor kernel you can't upgrade, precise's userspace should be perfectly fine with a 2.6.38 kernel.
[01:18] <cjwatson> s/to ask/to answer/
[01:18] <infinity> cjenkin2: Right, debconf-set-selections was sort of what I was driving at with the "set it before running oem-config-prepare".
[01:18] <infinity> Err..
[01:18] <infinity> cjwatson: ^
[01:18] <infinity> Or similar.
[01:19] <cjwatson> I don't recall for certain whether it works at all though; I think in particular there has been a tension between "make default keyboard in oem-config respect preseeded value" and "make default keyboard in oem-config be something that's reasonable for the locale you picked"
[01:19] <cjenkin2> infinity, cjwatson: I see. I will look at that then
[01:19] <cjwatson> And since both of those end up being communicated by basically the same mechanism, it's a tough problem to resolve
[01:19] <cjwatson> (This is all from n-year-old memory though)
[01:22] <cjenkin2> Anyway, thanks again you guys :)
[01:24] <cjenkin2> In addition to grunt programmer I am also errand-runner, so I have to go FedEx some machines now
[01:25] <cjwatson> Preseeding the locale at least should work
[01:25] <cjwatson> Good luck
[01:26] <cjwatson> (And I think oem-config forces re-asking questions in many cases, but failing that, you can preseed a question and then preseed its seen flag to false; debconf-set-selections(1) has an example)
[01:31] <infinity> cjwatson: He wants it to be seen, just with a different default.  I think.


[00:00] <cryptodan> Annoyed: it might be
[00:06] <Annoyed> ls
[00:08] <Annoyed> how would that work?
[00:10] <cryptodan> I wouldnt know as I do not use a PC for a router
[00:13] <Annoyed> I just don't get how the thing can retain the masq. settings after reboot.
[00:14] <cryptodan> you can run a tcpdump session and analyze the traffic with wireshark
[00:15] <bekks> Annoyed: ufw e.g. saves and loads settings upon reboot.
[00:15] <Annoyed> That's not enabled right now.
[00:25] <Annoyed> Ok, that mystery is cleared up.
[00:26] <bekks> How did it clear up?
[00:26] <Annoyed> The other machine on the "inside" was getting out through it's wlan interface.
[00:26] <Annoyed> killed that, and now it's behaving as expected; can get to the router box, but no farther.
[00:33] <Annoyed> So, client machine can get DHCP address & DNS from the server box. but can't get out. Going try ufw "by the book" again
[00:37] <Annoyed> cryptodan: by the  way, that /etc/udev/rules.d directory you mentioned  is empty
[00:42] <Annoyed> There's a readme that sends you to /etc/udev/rules.d/
[00:43] <Annoyed> I think I'm gonna turn that damned thing off.. no frakkin' idea why they want to rename things anyway
[00:46] <cryptodan> it shouldnt be empty
[00:46] <Annoyed> Well, just turned it off in grub.
[00:48] <cryptodan> Annoyed: http://dpaste.com/0KDQCFV
[00:50] <Annoyed> Mine has the  readme, that's it
[00:51] <Annoyed> Well, that went well. It doesn't even see either ethernet card now
[00:51] <Annoyed> ifconfig shows lo, that's it
[00:52] <cryptodan> Annoyed: time to reinstall
[00:52] <Annoyed> This IS a new install. just doing initial setup.
[00:53] <Annoyed> and there is no /dev entry for eth* of any sort
[01:02] <jerrcs> you should be using "ip addr" or "ifconfig -a"
[01:02] <jerrcs> the interface COULD be down.
[01:03] <jerrcs> (just as a best practice, no one else seemed to comment on that)
[01:09] <Annoyed> Well, there should STILL have been a /dev entry for eth(x)
[01:10] <Annoyed> Apparently, you have let it rename things.
[01:13] <Annoyed> The cynical side of me thinks they are overcomplicating this in order to generate paid support calls
[01:18] <jerrcs> Annoyed: so it shows up there?
[01:18] <jerrcs> or not
[01:19] <Annoyed> the only way the machine sees it's ethernet intefaces is with biosdevname turned on. then it sees p2p1 and p3p1, both enet cards
[01:38] <Annoyed> Not sure yet... but I think I might have it
[01:39] <Annoyed> Setting the default policy on the input chain to accept allows the inside machine to work.... So. maybe you have to add established/related rules via ufw
[01:50] <cryptodan> Annoyed: you say biosdevname exists in the latest server iso?
[01:51] <Annoyed> That's what Installed. 14.04.1, downloaded last week
[01:51] <cryptodan> im downloading now and will install in a VM
[01:58] <Annoyed> so much for the idea or needing established/related rules.
[01:58] <Annoyed> They're in the before.rules file already
[01:59] <cryptodan> 3 more minutes on download
[01:59] <benpardo> If I'm not supposed to do things on root, how do I get to run my reverse proxy on port 80?
[02:00] <Annoyed> sudo su to get root permissions temporarily
[02:00] <Annoyed> "sudo su" that is
[02:01] <benpardo> Annoyed: Is that secure? That's the best way to do it?
[02:01] <benpardo> Annoyed: don't mean to be a pain in the ass, I'm just new to this.
[02:02] <Annoyed> As far as I know. the root account is disabled by default, but if you want to enable it, you can. But "sudo su" gives  you temp. access, usually all you need
[02:04] <cryptodan> Annoyed: installing
[02:10] <benpardo> what folder on ubuntu should I put the generated static files being served?
[02:10] <cryptodan> Annoyed: I just installed a fresh copy of Ubuntu Server 14.04.1 and my devices for ethernet are Eth0
[02:13] <teward> benpardo: it depends on the website configuration - if you're on standard Apache, I think it's on /var/www/ somewhere, if you're on nginx, you should make your own docroot somewhere
[02:13] <benpardo> teward: I'm nodejs, does it matter?
[02:14] <benpardo> teward: although nginx is going to be the reverse-proxy
[02:14] <teward> benpardo: then refer to the nodejs configuration
[02:14] <teward> benpardo: i've never used nodejs, but in all web servers and setups, the docroot varies based on the configurations
[02:15] <teward> benpardo: so refer to your configurations and find where the document root is
[02:15] <benpardo> teward: ah, I see. It may not actually matter and may be something I can set myself
[02:15] <Annoyed> cryptodan: Maybe because I'm using UEFI setup on the drives?
[02:16] <cryptodan> that wouldnt matter Annoyed
[02:16] <teward> benpardo: yes, it really depends on what nodejs lets you configure.  it may have a fixed document root or a variable one, it really depends on the configurations, and really the docroot can be anywhere so long as the web server has the access it needs to the docroot
[02:17] <benpardo> teward: that really helps
[02:19] <Annoyed> cryptodan: Well, I dunno. I have no idea why it's renaming them. I don't really like it, but it's not worth redoing the past week's work to re-install to see what I get. I can live with odd names. And I really don't think that's why I'm having ufw issues. UFW / Iptables IS working now, 'cause I have the default policy for  the input chain set to accept. If the device names were the issue, I don't think it would work
[02:20] <Annoyed> But I shouldn't have to set input chain policy to accept to get NAT to work
[02:21] <Annoyed> Either UFW can't handle NAT and firwalling right, (which I doubt) or there's something I'm not seeing
[02:21] <cryptodan> UFW can
[02:42] <Annoyed> I would think it would be able to, but I'm not seeing something.
[03:38] <Annoyed> Thanks, folks.
[03:38] <Annoyed> enough on this for today
[09:05] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:21] <lnxmen> Good morning. ;)
[13:05] <samba35> how do i assign ip address  another guest  from guest has dhcp server (both as guest )
[13:05] <samba35> using ovs version 2.0.2 on ubunut
[13:05] <samba35> using openvswitch
[13:08] <mustti> happy new year 2015 to all
[13:11] <hariom> I have added an init script. Ran the update-rc.d command to run it after reboot (ps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9664927/) but after reboot it doesn't run. Manually it runs fine.
[13:16] <hariom> Here is my init script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9664956/
[13:19] <hariom> I have added an init script. Ran the update-rc.d command to run it after reboot (ps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9664927/) but after reboot it doesn't run. Manually it runs fine.
[13:19] <hariom> Here is my init script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9664956/
[14:14] <jefinc> anyone awake?
[14:16] <ObrienDave> barely
[14:17] <jefinc> uh oh too many brown bottles
[15:49] <fabiofranco85> (Ubuntu 14.04 LTS) Need to change locale settings for a specific country (pt_BR). The problem is when try to use resources that use these setting it returns the wrong results. Example: In java if I try to get the currency symbol it gives me BRL when it should give me R$ and the decimal separator is , and it gives me . (and the other way around too). I came to the conclusion the problem
[15:49] <fabiofranco85> is with the operating system configuration since I tried on a machine runing windows and it worked perfectly. Any suggestions?
[15:51] <bekks> fabiofranco85: I guess thats correct so far (at least for the currency), since the international identifier for your currency is BRL, not R$ (which is the national one). It is the same for the Euro with EUR vs. €, and for the US Dollar with USD vs $.
[15:55] <fabiofranco85> bekks: I understand but is there a file or some place where I can set the Display symbol for the currency?
[15:56] <fabiofranco85> bekks: I´m asking this because as I said it works on windows but when I run it on ubuntu server it goes wrong... and it´s not just the symbol
[15:56] <fabiofranco85> bekks: the decimal and thousand separator are also wrong
[15:56] <jefinc> how do I create a server that is then setup so that no matter what computer I access on the network I login with the same user/password and all my preferences are the same?
[16:09] <Patrickdk> ldap+nfs
[16:09] <Annoyed> Greetings
[16:09] <Annoyed> Any of the folks who were helping me yesterday around?
[16:14] <Annoyed> anhyone here good with iptables?
[16:15] <jerrcs> what's your question?
[16:15] <Patrickdk> !ask
[16:15] <jerrcs> 400 ppl in the channel, i'm sure someone will know something about iptables.
[16:16] <Patrickdk> do bots count?
[16:16] <jerrcs> yup
[16:16] <Patrickdk> and I count 3 times?
[16:16] <jerrcs> yep
[16:17] <Patrickdk> can I get payed 3 times?
[16:17] <jerrcs> absolutely
[16:17] <Annoyed> Can I specify a list of ips on an allow line? such as -A input -i [interface_name] x.x.x.x, y.y.y.y, z.z.z.z -j ACCEPT ??
[16:17] <Patrickdk> no, and that is highly invalid even if you didn't
[16:18] <Annoyed> Yeah, I know.. the exact syntax isn't right
[16:18] <jerrcs> Annoyed: have you tried CIDRs instead? or are the IPs in different ranges?
[16:18] <Annoyed> jerrcs: totally different
[16:18] <jerrcs> then negative, it doesn't work that way
[16:19] <Patrickdk> the solution is to use, ipset
[16:19] <Annoyed> bah. I have to allow ssh anda few other things from several ips and I wanted to do it on one line
[16:19] <jerrcs> first result on google - http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/210361
[16:20] <jerrcs> they give a few ideas for creating "sets" of rules
[16:22] <Annoyed> Jerrcs, if you recall, I was having difficulty with ufw yesterday? couldn't get it to do NAT unless the default input policy was accept?   I ended up giving up on it and writing a manual ruleset.. that does work
[16:23] <Patrickdk> do what?
[16:23] <Patrickdk> input policy has NOTHING to do with nat at all
[16:23] <Patrickdk> nat ONLY uses the forward rules
[16:25] <Annoyed> Well, following the ufw  directions at https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/firewall.html to the letter, I couldn't get a natted box online unless I opened the input chain.
[16:25] <Patrickdk> yes, your diagnostics where wrong though
[16:26] <Patrickdk> maybe your NAT server also did DNS?
[16:26] <Patrickdk> and you didn't open up DNS? on input/output chains?
[16:26] <Patrickdk> therefor it *seemed* like nat was broken?
[16:27] <Patrickdk> and you did apply the correct rules to allow the required icmp through both?
[16:27] <Annoyed> Hmmm... Well, the machine does run DNS (full server, not cache) and it is able to resolve it's own needs fine
[16:28] <Patrickdk> but can the machine you tested nat on resolve fine?
[16:28] <Patrickdk> you ahve to test the whole stack
[16:28] <Patrickdk> not just the end result
[16:32] <Annoyed> Not sure about ability to resolve. I think it could, though.
[16:33] <Patrickdk> my recommendation though, would be to use shorewall
[16:33] <Patrickdk> after years of doing iptables and ipchains myself, and finding my own issues, like multible rules interacting to cause holes I didn't want and stuff
[16:33] <Patrickdk> shorewall just makes my life so much easier
[16:33] <jerrcs> i honestly use raw rules and not much of these programs
[16:33] <jerrcs> so i cannot speak on  them
[16:34] <Patrickdk> I do raw iptables too, but shorewall on anything harder now :)
[16:34] <Patrickdk> but sometimes I need to get creative, and use raw iptables for things, expecially stuff like ipvs and manual protocol violations
[16:34] <Patrickdk> cause shorewall isn't made to actually break things
[16:35] <Patrickdk> things can get alittle fun, when you have like 15+ nic's on a system, it's just a royal pain to do all that manually in iptables
[16:36] <Annoyed> But I don't have any allowances for port 53 in my current ruleset, and it works. I assume established,related allows the returns for outbound DNS queries
[16:36] <Patrickdk> yes
[16:37] <Patrickdk> but what accepts inbound from your machines from *behind* the nat?
[16:37] <Patrickdk> workstation -> nat -> outside dns
[16:37] <Patrickdk> you have to accept workstation -> nat first, before nat can go outside
[16:38] <Patrickdk> that wouldn't be a forward rule, cause your contacting a dns server onyour nat box, most likely
[16:38] <Annoyed> the nat box IS the dns server also.
[16:38] <Patrickdk> what I said is full of assumptions about how you set things up
[16:38] <Annoyed> yes, exactly
[16:38] <Patrickdk> but normally that is how people do it
[16:38] <Annoyed> but I do recall errors in the logs regarding port 53
[16:39] <Patrickdk> on a normal home nat setup, you need to accept dhcp, dns, probably just all of icmp, and then if you get more fancy, upnp
[16:40] <Annoyed> Jan  2 21:56:22 unimatrix0 kernel: [ 6682.487057] [UFW BLOCK] IN=p2p1 OUT= MAC=10:c3:7b:db:99:5a:48:5b:39:1e:29:5b:08:00 SRC=<IP_ADDRESS> DST=<IP_ADDRESS> LEN=79 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=48164 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5088 DPT=53 LEN=59
[16:43] <Annoyed> so, if I get you right, I would have to allow port 53 from any inside interface ?
[16:44] <Annoyed> I'm no iptables expert, so I assume something like ufw could write a better ruleset than I can, so I tried that.
[16:46] <Annoyed> If I want to use ufw, just add a rule to allow anything from the inside interface to the input chain?
[18:02] <Annoyed> Patrickdk: You still here?
[18:03] <Annoyed> If so, thank you. It was indeed DNS that was being blocked
[18:04] <Patrickdk> ufw doesn't write rulesets
[18:04] <Patrickdk> it only is an interface between you and iptables
[18:04] <Patrickdk> personally, I think it's a pointless interface
[18:04] <Patrickdk> but since ubuntu/debian has no persistant iptables interface, it needed something
[18:07] <Annoyed> Well, thank you anyway. I added lines to /etc/ufw/before.rules as follows
[18:07] <Annoyed> # allow all on inside interface
[18:07] <Annoyed> -A ufw-before-input -i p2p1 -j ACCEPT
[18:07] <Annoyed> -A ufw-before-output -o p2p1 -j ACCEPT
[18:08] <Annoyed> basically copied the settings for lo   and was all set
[18:08] <Annoyed> working as desired
[18:09] <Annoyed> And I assume that ufw can do a better job writing a ruleset than I can. =)
[18:15] <Patrickdk> if p2p1 is your *local* network, should be good enough :)
[18:46] <Annoyed> Yes, p2p1 is my inside interface
[18:47] <Annoyed> p3p1 is outside. For some reason, Ubuntu renamed them.
[18:48] <Annoyed> I tried to disable the biosdevname thing but it wouldn't even see ANY network intefaces then.
[18:48] <Annoyed> As long as it works, I'm not going worry about what it calls them
[21:11] <jefinc> so on my work's windows network I sign in with the same username/password from any computer within the network and it saves my settings/info etc., how do I do that with ubuntu?
[21:44] <SchrodingersScat> jefinc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo ?
[21:44] <jefinc> SchrodingersScat: I will give it a go, thanks :)
[22:03] <NineTeen67Comet> Hello all .. been a while since I set up Ubuntu server (I've been running 13.04 for a while) .. this time however I moved 000-default to sites-available and restarted with my virtual files in sites-enabled but it still goes to the default Apache page .. is there another command I'm missing?
[22:04] <NineTeen67Comet> apachectl something?
[22:07] <NineTeen67Comet> I have directories in /var/www to represent the sites I'm running (re-building) ..
[22:51] <zol> Hi! I'm having trouble setting up my home network configuration. I have two NICs, one configured for WAN and the other for WAN on a subnet with range <IP_ADDRESS>/24. The router has static ip <IP_ADDRESS>, I can ping the router form the LAN clients, but I can't ping the clients from the router. The LAN clients can't reach outside of the LAN. I am using ufw as a firewall, I have NAT enabled to the best of my
[22:51] <zol> knowledge. I'm feeling terribly lost, have been trying to fix this for 6 hours now.
[22:51] <zol> and the other for LAN*
[22:52] <zol> I can't seem to get outgoing packets to be allowed by UFW.
[23:36] <jdstrand> zol: I suggest you look at the section on 'IP Masquerading' in 'man ufw-framwork'
[23:36] <jdstrand> zol: sorry, 'man ufw-framework'
[23:36]  * jdstrand wanders off again


[03:22] <jdstrand> Trevinho: thanks!
[03:24] <Trevinho> jdstrand: np, I'm also quite close in getting hello-unity working... Well I've already it running but I've to add .desktop files and some theming, at this point.
[03:24] <Trevinho> jdstrand: basically that test checks the main things though, counter, progress and dynamic quicklists
[03:24] <jdstrand> very cool. I've made a note to work through them both


[02:46] <Eickmeyer> cyphermox: If you're around and have some time, I have a new one to check out: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/cadence-audio/+git/cadence-audio. This wouldn't be for Debian per se, but would be great in Universe.
[03:04] <cyphermox> Eickmeyer: ok, tomorrow I'll have a look (I was on my way to bed)


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[04:49] <Kilos> morning superfly inetpro nuvolari and everyone else
[07:45] <inetpro> Kilos: good morning
[07:46] <inetpro> Kilos: are you surviving on this last day of 2010?
[07:57] <Kilos> lo pro
[07:57] <Kilos> eish
[07:57] <Kilos> lo inetpro
[07:59] <Kilos> lol. just. Debs and I met tonight 25 years ago
[07:59] <Kilos> but i be fighting my 80g drive the mbr is corrupt or gone?
[11:35] <Kilos> anyone here can help me to install .tar or .rpm files please
[11:35] <Kilos> i found a way to rewrite my mbr but cant find the files with cli so i can install them
[11:36] <Kilos> or repair
[11:36] <Kilos> i have them in downloads and on desktop but cant get sudo to find them
[11:37] <Kilos> this is the command i used
[11:37] <Kilos> sudo alien package_file.rpm
[11:38] <Kilos> sudo alien seatoolsenterprise.i386.rpm
[11:38] <Kilos> what did i leavge out
[11:38] <Kilos> leave
[11:39] <superfly> Kilos: firstly, why are you trying to install .tar or .rpm files?
[11:39] <Kilos> because that sight doesnt have them in .deb superfly
[11:39] <Kilos> site
[11:39] <superfly> Kilos: which site is that?
[11:39] <Kilos> sec i find it
[11:40] <Kilos> http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-GB&name=SeaTools:_Enterprise_Edition&vgnextoid=58d500bc350ce010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD
[11:40] <Kilos> whew thats a long one hey
[11:42] <superfly> why do you need that?
[11:42] <Kilos> my harddrives mbr has crashed
[11:43] <superfly> so what does that tool have to do with it?
[11:49] <Kilos> it is supposed to be able to repair or reinstall mbr
[11:50] <Tonberry> how on earth did you break an mbr?
[11:50] <Kilos> sorry i took so long i dont have any indicators working here on 9.04
[11:50] <Kilos> Tonberry,  not me
[11:50] <Kilos> did it all on its own
[11:51] <Kilos> but googling finds lotsa peeps had same probs
[11:51] <Tonberry> and now grub won't start?
[11:51] <Kilos> yip
[11:52] <Kilos> been trying for 4 days now
[11:52] <Kilos> or more. i forget
[11:53] <Tonberry> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:54] <Kilos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto
[11:54] <Tonberry> try that method for installing a grub mbr
[11:54] <Kilos> i will look . this is what i found but i dunno where to find the files
[11:54] <Kilos> ok ty will do that now. see ya all later
[11:55] <Kilos> hold thumbs for me please
[11:55] <Tonberry> a random seagate tool is very unlikely to be able to fix grub...
[11:55] <Kilos> that was part of the boast
[11:55] <superfly> Kilos: don't use random tools, use the Ubuntu tools
[11:56] <Kilos> ok will do
[11:57] <superfly> Kilos: if your horse is sick, are you going to get a doctor or a vet to look at him?
[11:57] <Kilos> hehe
[11:58] <Kilos> i be the vet
[11:58] <superfly> Kilos: right, so the same with your boot sector, are you going to get some Seagate tool to fix grub, or are you going to get grub to fix itself?
[11:59] <Kilos> i have google lots superfly and some of the info was from ubuntu but it didnt work here because i make mistakes in cli i suppose
[12:00] <Kilos> its the mbr not grub
[12:00] <Kilos> cant boot with anything ebvn dos stiffies
[12:00] <Kilos> even
[12:01] <Kilos> and i didnt have windows near here before the crash
[12:01] <Kilos> was just starting to enjoy maverick
[12:01] <superfly> Kilos: the MBR is the Master Boot Record, which lives in the first sector of your hard drive. if you can't boot with a stiffy, that's not your MBR
[12:01] <Kilos> oh sorry i can boot from them but not install dos even
[12:02] <superfly> can you boot of an Ubuntu CD?
[12:02] <Tonberry> are you certain the entire drive is not dead?
[12:02] <superfly> *off
[12:02] <superfly> Tonberry: yeah, that's what I suspect... the MBR doesn't die by itself, it's either all or nothing
[12:03] <Tonberry> or very very very very random kernel bug....
[12:12] <Kilos> half the time it doesnt boot from the ubuntu cds
[12:12] <Kilos> says ubi.partman
[12:12] <Kilos> um
[12:12] <Kilos> cant find ubi.partman
[12:13] <Kilos> it has actually installed twice in the last few days but soon after updating crashed again
[12:14] <Tonberry> i vote hardware failure
[12:14] <Kilos> ubuntu actually gave a report once or twice that mbr was corrupt or missing
[12:14] <Kilos> but i will keep trying
[12:14] <Kilos> ty for the help guys
[12:19] <superfly> Kilos: your hard drive is dead, you need a new one
[12:20] <Kilos> eish
[12:20] <Kilos> dont say that superfly  its my newest one
[12:20] <Kilos> the one i am using now is much older
[12:20] <Tonberry> could also be the motherboard if booting from a live cd is a problem
[12:21] <Tonberry> or the dvd/cdrom drive
[12:21] <Kilos> cd
[12:21] <superfly> Kilos: when did you get it?
[12:22] <Kilos> 3 years ago
[12:22] <superfly> hrm, your warranty has probably already expired
[12:22] <Kilos> lol yeah
[12:22] <Kilos> maxtor give a 1 year warranty
[12:23] <superfly> ah, I think seagate or one of the others gives a 3 year warranty
[12:24] <Kilos> i keep trying guys. be good till im back ok??
[12:24] <Kilos> thanks again for the help
[12:59] <drubin> Happy new year peoples.
[12:59] <drubin> bye
[20:09] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[20:09]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[20:09] <superfly> evening Kilos
[20:09] <Kilos> hi superfly
[20:10] <Kilos> weird things here
[20:10] <Kilos> fixed mbr with windows 98 cd and then installed 98
[20:10] <Kilos> then win me
[20:10] <Kilos> then xp
[20:10] <Kilos> then tried ubuntu
[20:10] <Kilos> eish
[20:11] <charlvn> sheesh, that's pretty hectic
[20:11] <Kilos> yip really weird
[20:12] <Kilos> it just refuses to accept any of my ubuntus
[20:12] <superfly> Kilos: how do you mean?
[20:13] <Kilos> ubuntu cds boot and then there lotsa errors when trying to install
[20:13] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[20:13] <Kilos> 9.04 gets the furthest
[20:13] <Kilos> Maaz, dankie
[20:13] <Maaz> Groot plesier Kilos my vriend
[20:15] <superfly> Kilos: what errors?
[20:15] <Kilos> hard to member but lots
[20:15] <Kilos> um
[20:15] <Kilos> something with partman
[20:16] <Kilos> and lotsa other stuff like gdm not starting etc
[20:17] <superfly> Kilos: in order to solve your problem you need to know the first 5 (at least) error messages
[20:18] <Kilos> they flash past so fast i dont get to read them all superfly
[20:20] <Kilos> and i dunno how to slow the thing down so i can write them down
[20:23] <superfly> Kilos: I think there's an install log screen in the text-based installer, Ctrl+F10
[20:28] <Kilos> at what stage do you go control +f12
[20:37] <superfly> Kilos: any time, I think
[20:38] <Kilos> ok ty superfly  i will try that
[22:00] <Kilos> fp
[22:00] <Kilos> happy new year to all of you
[22:01] <nuvimob> fp
[22:01] <nuvimob> ?
[22:01] <nuvimob> or did i not make it in time? :-P
[22:02] <superfly> weee! happy new year!
[22:03] <Kilos> lol
[22:03] <Kilos> happy happy you guys
[22:07] <Kilos> Maaz, happy new year
[22:07] <Maaz> Thanks Kilos my friend and all the best to you and family
[22:08] <Kilos> noght all . sleep tight
[22:08] <Kilos> night


[21:52] <aphorise> Is there a safe / legacy graphics mode in latest images? - I'm trying 15x from disc - but its freezing on the initial X windows with black
[21:53] <Bashing-om> Jamie_1: That filesystem was authored when 4 gigs was huge !
[21:53] <Jamie_1> i remember that lol.... back when i used to have halo on a thumb drive
[21:54] <Jamie_1> Bashing-om: what format should i change it to?
[21:56] <Bashing-om> Jamie_1: Depends on "your" use case . All my work is in linux in one shape fashion form or another - and I use ext4 for most everything . cross platform is NTFS .
[21:57] <Jamie_1> its for a vdi file and for another linux machine and also i need it to be accessable to mac
[21:59] <Aaaaand> Hey, I have troubles with my apple magic mouse, natural scrolling does not work on it, also when you scroll it immediately stops when you stop touching the mouse, it doesn't slowly lose momentum like it normally does
[21:59] <Aaaaand> any idea how I can solve this?
[21:59] <ubuntu-mate> [2 p
[21:59] <ubuntu-mate> 1 ';'llo1o 1
[21:59] <ubuntu-mate> 2 [1 n
[21:59] <ubuntu-mate> [p3[n p[[o
[22:04] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[22:05] <E1ephant> silly question time, I have a 14.04 install, and my security analyst is saying scans are erroring out with several CVEs, having no updates in ubuntu, I am pretty confident these are backported in my php/apache2 ubuntu packages
[22:05] <E1ephant> that said, I don't see these CVEs in the ubuntu CVE tracker, looking for a quick way "to be sure"
[22:06] <Brian-> yo ops Drone` yw2014 is sending very long PMs about religion - any change you can kick ban him ?
[22:06] <E1ephant> is changelog for each package/revision the answer?
[22:06] <ryan_> hello
[22:07] <Guest20974> hi
[22:08] <Jamie_1> Bashing-om: i changed it to ext4 but its still doing the start well then slow down to slow as hell... its down to 14mb/s
[22:08] <rww> Brian-: islam, I assume?
[22:08] <Brian-> rww indeed
[22:09] <HackerII> doh
[22:09]  * rww sighs
[22:09] <Pyrrha_> Bonjour :)
[22:09] <Brian-> wtg rww :)
[22:10] <Brian-> I haven't seen that on freenode before .
[22:10] <rww> Brian-: it's been a thing recently :(
[22:10] <Bashing-om> Jamie_1: Do not know .. bufferring ? still writing to disk ? ( does it complete ) ?
[22:10] <Jamie_1> im waiting to find out... its roughly 7gb
[22:10] <Exagone313> Brian-: you can disallow unregistered users to send you queries
[22:11] <Exagone313> I did that because of annoying queries
[22:11] <Brian-> ok Exagone313 - thanks for the tip :)
[22:11] <Jamie_1> Bashing-om: if it fails again ill just do it via torrent transfer
[22:11] <Exagone313> it is with user mode +R
[22:12] <Bashing-om> Jamie_1: Lot's I do not know, IF it fails I would be interested in learning the reason why .
[22:13] <gustav___> Is there any way to store data secondarily on my local SSD and "swap" out unused data to a network drive or NFS mount?
[22:13] <bgardner> Exagone313: Thanks for the tip
[22:13] <Jamie_1> Bashing-om: im interested to find out why its slowing down so far... nothing else is using the usb transfer daemon
[22:16] <Jamie_1> Bashing-om: it finished
[22:17] <Bashing-om> Jamie_1: Great ! All I can think of is the buffereing, How did you copy the file 'cp', 'rsync' ?
[22:17] <Jamie_1> Bashing-om: via nautilus
[22:17] <Jamie_1> Bashing-om: its starts out at roughly 90mbs
[22:18] <Bashing-om> Jamie_1: I do not do GUI .. presetly out of my experience range .
[22:18] <Jamie_1> Bashing-om: all good, was kinda odd... i used gparted to reformat and then it had it down as owned by root... so i had to chown it
[22:20] <Bashing-om> Jamie_1: "root' is a standard .. and then is SOP to change to the desired ownerhip :)
[22:20] <Jamie_1> never really ran into that with removable media
[22:30] <shellhelp> Hi folks
[22:31] <shellhelp> I need help with a shell script
[22:31] <bert_> helo
[22:31] <bazhang> #bash shellhelp
[22:31] <Exagone313> shellhelp: maybe #bhash
[22:31] <Exagone313> bash
[22:31] <shellhelp> kk
[22:31] <shellhelp> thank you
[22:32] <bert_> hello
[22:32] <Prevaky> Hey, in which section of ubuntuforums.org should I ask about ftp related stuff?
[22:38] <Bashing-om> Prevaky: " Networking & Wireless" would be apt .. if required the mods can move the posting .
[22:39] <Prevaky> all right Bashing-om, thanks
[22:47] <|-Esc-|> l
[22:49] <brx0> hi. Just a short question. I configured an Wlan-AP with KDE5-nm-editor. How can you disable WPS? is there a config somewhere? I didn't find a wpa-supplicant.conf. Thank you
[22:49] <brx0> Ubuntu 15.10
[22:53] <Tomahawk> 4.2.0-22-generic #27-ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 17 22:57:08 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/LINUX (new install faster on battery than on ac, and drm failure on pipeA
[22:57] <Koyaanis> i didnt know 16.04 is out
[22:57] <Koyaanis> tzzz
[22:58] <Bashing-om> Koyaanis: Not, the beta is available for testing, will not be releasd 'til April of 2016 .
[23:00] <k1l_> Koyaanis: its not out
[23:00] <SergioEDuran1> friends... I am having issues with some games and emulators and my PC
[23:00] <SergioEDuran1> after trying to exit from them my PC crashes somebody know why?
[23:00] <SergioEDuran1> my GPU is an Intel one
[23:00] <SergioEDuran1> PC model: Dell inspiron 1420
[23:03] <antoine[marechal> hi
[23:03] <Tomahawk> 4.2.0-22-generic #27-ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 17 22:57:08 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/LINUX (new install faster on battery than on ac, and drm failure on pipeA
[23:03] <antoine[marechal> I got a question: how could I have my monitor working in a wireless ?
[23:04] <antoine[marechal> bluetooth did the thing for audio, but video ?
[23:05] <SergioEDuran1> so? do you know how to solve this issue?
[23:05] <antoine[marechal> no, I wonder if there's a way
[23:05] <SergioEDuran1> I see
[23:05] <antoine[marechal> like a bluetooth videocard or somethinq
[23:06] <antoine[marechal> had a search but it is either not there or I have the wronq keywords
[23:06] <k1l_> antoine[marechal: there are some projects working on that. but not really ready
[23:07] <antoine[marechal> nice to hear that, what about wifi stuff ? Id like not to buy a new fancy tv for this but use the old one
[23:08] <SuperLag> If I have a script running that is using the python3 binary, is updating any of theses packages going to affect it? : python-apt-common python3-apt python3-problem-report python3-apport python-apt python-problem-report python-apport
[23:08] <Koyaanis> Bashing-om k1l_ whats the difference
[23:08] <Koyaanis> both look the same do the same
[23:09] <k1l_> !16.04 | Koyaanis
[23:09] <hzut> hi
[23:09] <Koyaanis> both look the same do the same
[23:09] <hzut> please help me
[23:09] <Bashing-om> Koyaanis: difference: testing/tested and released .
[23:09] <Koyaanis> released doesnt mean its not being tested anymore
[23:09] <Koyaanis> hueheu
[23:10] <k1l_> Koyaanis: are you sure you understand the development and release cycles?
[23:10] <hzut> each clic on middle button copy twice instead of one!
[23:10] <k1l_> !releases | Koyaanis
[23:11] <Koyaanis> well if that bot says so, it must be true
[23:11]  * Koyaanis giggles incoherently
[23:12] <Tomahawk> 4.2.0-22-generic #27-ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 17 22:57:08 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/LINUX (new install faster on battery than on ac, and drm failure on pipeA
[23:13] <mehmet> hi
[23:13] <OerHeks> Tomahawk, if this happened to you: write a bugreport then,no use of repeating here like that
[23:14] <mehmet> fuck you idiots
[23:15] <Tomahawk> sorry the guidelines said to wait 5 to 10 minutes before reposting
[23:16] <hzut> i installed ubuntu on my mac - what is the best thing to do with keyboard and trackpad?
[23:18] <brx0> hi. Just a short question. I configured an Wlan-AP with KDE5-nm-connection-editor. How can you disable WPS? is there a config somewhere? I couldn't find a wpa-supplicant.conf. Ubuntu 15.10. Any idea? Thank you
[23:18] <brx0> hzut: Bluetooth?
[23:30] <wanglin> good morning
[23:45] <MelRay> Anyone have any suggestions for a good IDE to use for learning python?
[23:49] <jvtbatman> I recently tried installing Ubuntu Core to a SD-card on Ubuntu and when I connect it to the computer now it isn't detected. Any suggestions?
[23:53] <jvtbatman> It doesn't show up in neither GParted or fdisk


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[10:52] <Shroog_> Hello !