[15:19] <mhall119> highvoltage: I had to make a bug fix to qimo-session, I had a couple of typos in a config file
[15:19] <mhall119> can you check it and re-upload?
[15:31] <highvoltage> mhall119: it's best to let that existing one get in and then I'll just upload again after that
[15:31] <highvoltage> mhall119: we don't have to go through revu either once the package is in the archive
[15:31] <mhall119> ok
[15:32] <mhall119> what's the process once it's in archive?
[15:32] <highvoltage> mhall119: then I can just sponsor any changes you need to make, you can provide it as a debdiff or just give me (or another motu member) the changes
[15:33] <mhall119> ok


[07:04] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:08] <icey> jamespage: looks like I'll need to create two packages :-/
[08:38] <jamespage> icey: for python-saml?
[08:38] <icey> yeah, it needs xmlsec as well
[08:40] <jamespage> oh is that not already packaged?
[08:41] <icey> jamespage: nope - the C library is but not the python bindings


[02:43] <kalikatz> just did an apt install ssh  and unable to locate the banner page to edit it
[02:44] <kalikatz> anyone know where the banner file is for the ssh server
[02:46] <kalikatz> ... after the login?
[06:07] <bugal-jackson> hello, i am having issues having the grub menu appear for dual booting purposes
[06:41] <valorie> bugal-jackson: have you tried `update-grub` command?
[06:41] <valorie> !grub
[06:41] <valorie> read more about it above
[06:41]  * valorie heads to bed
 Hello! I just upgraded to Cosmic from Bionic. All seems to  have gone well - except Mailspring and redshift are broken. I tried re-installing Mailspring but it is still  not working. Konsole says: mailspring … Segmentation fault (core dumped) Any idea how to get Mailspring working again? Thanks.
 @Anarchotaoist, Probably this: https://github.com/Foundry376/Mailspring/issues/1108
 ok, thanks Rik, I'll look into that!
[07:11] <bugal-jackson> okay I have fixed it so the GRUB menu appears on boot up. issue now is that only kubuntu appears, not my windows 10. my windows 10 still can boot, i just have to do it through bios
 Hello,
 How can I use openvpn with kubuntu?
 openvpn —config xyz.ovpn works fine but is there something from network manager? When i goto network manager i see an option for Automatically conntect to VPN when using ...
 How do I use that option?
 install the package 'network-manager-openvpn' first
 Thanks!
 @acheronuk That is already installed
 @Linuxophil configured with openvpn recently. he may be better placed to say. I've never used it
 Ok, Rik, that link had a .deb for mailspring, thanks, but another mailspring popped up in Discover. I decided to try that first. That worked! I just need to set up all my accounts again. argh! Perhaps I should give kmail another look in though?
 @Anarchotaoist, or you try hiri as a snap#
 Is the one in discover a snap? if so, it won't see your configs, naturally
 @Anarchotaoist ^
 @acheronuk, ah, ok. I did not check.
 @Linuxophil, Thanks for the suggestion. I do not use office365 though.
 @acheronuk, Yes, it is a snap. Will a .deb pick up my accounts saved on my computer? I did previously have a .deb.
 ok thanks rik
 Linuxophil Can you help me with that?
 @Anarchotaoist, I would think so
 Cool
 @avizini, I'll gladly try. Searching for this option right now.
 @avizini, Can you send me a screenshot?
 (Photo, 295x170) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/fDSkXwdm/file_10437.jpg
 yes, i want to use this feature. automatically connect to vpn when using this network
 it should show add connections option in network manager from where users can import a opvn config. This worked in ubuntu , u budgie, u mate
 (Photo, 548x279) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/dg8fvCii/file_10438.jpg I cannot even select this option.
 @avizini, You might want to do it the following way:
 (Photo, 866x601) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/pi300M0w/file_10439.jpg weird, it shows that optionf or me but there are no vpn configs and i cant imort one
 @Linuxophil, ?
 @avizini, OK. Just switched computers. Now I see what you want.
 First you need to configure a VPN. You have your ovpn file, right?
 and all the keys?
 yes
 yes
 click here:
 (Photo, 1237x946) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/emTCNz2v/file_10440.jpg
 hell, i am such an idiot
 then scroll all the way down and click here:
 (Photo, 319x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/rEBhU6fi/file_10441.jpg
 the window size was small, i didnt see that button :/
 nvm, thanks
 then find the ovpn file.
 @avizini, Yes, that's a known bug. and it even didn't show a scroll bar, right?
 @avizini, Always happy to help!
 @Linuxophil, no it shows one, i didnt notice that
 @avizini, OK. Tell me if it works now, please!
 (Photo, 497x469) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/lRCpuveY/file_10442.jpg
 @Linuxophil, yes it works
 Thank you
 My pleasure!
 Thanks Linuxophil :)
 @acheronuk, Always happy to help and be helped! That's the point here.
 👍
[08:01] <bugal-jackson> how can i check if my linux is legacy or uefi?
 you can isntall efibootmgr and then run efibootmgr, if its legacy then it will show an error
 (Photo, 441x210) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ZHSOlKmG/file_10443.jpg
 if it was legacy then after efibootmgr command it would have shown an error
[08:07] <bugal-jackson> i guess this is on uefi
[08:07] <bugal-jackson> no error here
 does it give output similar to the screenshot one?
[08:08] <bugal-jackson> yes
 yes, then its uefi installation
[08:08] <bugal-jackson> that's an issue
 :(
[08:09] <bugal-jackson> my windows 10 is legacy, so to dual boot my linux should be legacy as well, correct?
[08:09] <bugal-jackson> i mean i can still boot my windows 10, just doesn't appear in the grub menu
 it should be but for example my computer supports both uefi and legacy boot together. I can install linux in uefi and win in legacy and it woould work
[08:10] <bugal-jackson> would like to fix this though, don't mind re-installing, only installed this a few hours ago
 @bugal-jackson, yes it wont show up on grub menu but it would work
 better reinstall it, either both uefi or both legacy
[08:13] <bugal-jackson> any idea how to install kubuntu in legacy?
 @bugal-jackson, dumb question: Did you do sudo grub-update?
 set boot mode to legacy by entering bios setup then reinstall it
 @bugal-jackson, You start the USB medium in legacy (not choose UEFI in boot menu).
[08:14] <bugal-jackson> yea i have tried sudo-grub update
 @bugal-jackson, "sudo grub-update"
[08:15] <bugal-jackson> oh oops, but yea that's what I used
 @bugal-jackson, Sorry: sudo update-grub
 i once did this and win was legacy but ubuntu in uefi, the installer didnt detect windows neither it showed up in grub
 (Photo, 794x212) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/xcXTTFtF/file_10444.jpg Should give you an output like this
[08:17] <bugal-jackson> yea i did that, it doesn't find my windows
 @bugal-jackson, OK
 @bugal-jackson, Easiest is to reinstall then.
 anyone ever tried installing an os onto usb drive?
 I am currently running kubuntu on usb and it works well
 @avizini, Yes. several times.
 Works great!
 what about the life of usbs, did you break any of them?
[08:20] <bugal-jackson> this is how my bios settings were https://i.imgur.com/DGGIFYx.jpg
 @avizini, No.
[08:20] <bugal-jackson> should i change "other pci devices" to legacy?
 https://askubuntu.com/questions/1058318/i-installed-ubuntu-mate-18-04-on-my-pendrive-how-can-i-maximise-the-life-of-tha
 @bugal-jackson, try changing and see if the installr boots legacy mode
 @bugal-jackson, yes
 A PCI device is any piece of computer hardware that plugs directly into a PCI slot on a computer's motherboard.
 dunno if it includes usbs, but switching it to legacy wont do any harm'
[08:24] <bugal-jackson> alright
[08:25] <bugal-jackson> do i need to delete my kubuntu? or just running the installer again will fix it?
 @bugal-jackson, no, once booted just delete the partition using kde partition manager then install it
 it should autodetect windowd this time
[08:27] <bugal-jackson> i do that in kubuntu? or with my boot disc?
 boot dicsc
[08:27] <bugal-jackson> alright
 chose try ubuntu
[08:29] <bugal-jackson> okay
 @acheronuk, Yes, that worked. All my accounts loaded! 🙏
 Ok, Cpod is broken too! Is that also an electron app? How do I update electron if so? I cannot find it in Synaptic.
[08:53] <bugal-jackson> alright
[08:53] <bugal-jackson> sudo update-grub now finds windows 10
 :)
[08:54] <bugal-jackson> thanks a lot
 no problem :)
[08:57] <bugal-jackson> well now my PC automatically boots to windows 10. wasn't happening before
 so you dont see the grub menu on startup?
[08:59] <bugal-jackson> nope, i just edited the /etc/default/grub too
[08:59] <bugal-jackson> to make it appear as menu and stay indefinitely
 oh, oksy
[09:01] <bugal-jackson> can't set the drive as a boot option
[09:01] <bugal-jackson> in bios
 i ddint get you
 Hi, I need help with broken packages in Kubuntu after an upgrade to 18.10 from 18.04
[09:03] <bugal-jackson> this is an earlier screenshot but you can see it here https://i.imgur.com/DGGIFYx.jpg
[09:03] <bugal-jackson> i now only have 2 boot options, the "ubuntu samsung" no longer exists. but i can still boot it in boot overrides in another tab
[09:04] <bugal-jackson> wonder if i skipped a step
 (Photo, 1280x420) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ZqrpcWMX/file_10445.jpg
 Cpod from Discover will not install, and the Cpod snap in Discover crashes when searching for a podcast. I downloaded the .deb from github and it will not launch either! 😥
 @bugal-jackson, if it works then dont touch it
 @Anarchotaoist, 3rd party proprietary app? I guess report to them if so.
 @acheronuk, ok, I just filed a bug report on github. Any recommendation for another podcast app?
 @avizini, maybe I should pin that ^^ 🤣
 @acheronuk, Interestingly the older version of Cpod -Cumulonimbus, works fine!
 @jacky, Hey Jacky, I now have latte-dock 0.8.1 in 18.10 - but I am not getting badge notifications. Do you have to enable them somehow? Thanks.
[10:15] <Alexfrench> me i launch it and voilà that's all
 @Alexfrench, latte dock?
[10:28] <Alexfrench> yes
 Where did you source latte dock from? I have a psifidatos ppa.
[10:35] <Alexfrench> first time i installed kubuntu on my laptop i ve made a list for available docks
[10:35] <Alexfrench> then i searched it by discover application
[10:36] <Alexfrench> and installed it
 hmm, it does not show up in Discover for me. Thanks.
[10:40] <Alexfrench> sorry that's what i've done really simple and i am a linux rookie you know
 ok, maybe I did get it there for this time. Do the badge notifications for all your apps - or - just Kmail ( in your pic?) ?
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:25] <hashrack> hello
[11:25] <BluesKaj> hi hashrack
[16:14] <est31> new kubuntu works great
[16:14] <est31> good job, folks
[17:29] <bugal-jackson> hello, re-installed my kubuntu but now when i try to run kate etc/default/grub, i get an empty file instead of the text file to edit the boot behavior
[17:33] <bugal-jackson> i see, i just forgot the first dash on /etc/. all good
[17:55] <bugal-jackson> i just ran boot-repair, it asks if my SSD is a removable disc. i gues technically it is... but do I choose yes or no?
[17:55] <bugal-jackson> or does that term refer to usb drives and such
[23:41] <jacky> Anarchotaoist: Not to my knowledge! I just noticed it _working_ for me. I can check for particular settings though
[23:42] <jacky> It's only appeared for me for KMail however
[23:42]  * ^Gecko^ just got through installing kubuntu for the first time in years
[23:43] <^Gecko^> kind of a 'Do I want to switch?' kind of thing.  If I can get mIRC working okay......maybe


[01:10] <guiverc> does bucklespring rely on xorg???    (no clickety-clack on speakers today & I'm using GNOME/Wayland
[01:11]  * guiverc sees two x11 deps in bucklespring package, so I'm guessing it's the wayland as to silence..
[01:12] <oerheks> this github says so, and howto build for wayland https://github.com/zevv/bucklespring/blob/master/README.md
[01:13] <oerheks> maybe the snap does?
[01:14] <guiverc> i can't see me making a change.. just 'feels' weird typing summaries for uwn & 'silence'  (excluding real keyboard noise)
[01:15] <guiverc> i might try the snap version though, thanks for idea oerheks :)
[01:15] <oerheks> alternative neptune, https://github.com/M1ndo/Neptune
[01:16] <oerheks> for gui-people
[01:18] <guiverc> the snap version is NOISY when typing here (hexchat), but quite when I use gnome-terminal or mousepad ??
[01:19] <oerheks> no idea, no setting in sounds?
[01:21] <guiverc> actually the deb version is responding the same (I'd just not tested before in this window... snap version responds to clicks here.. but both are quiet on mousepad (where I actually notice no sounds..))... i'll ignore it & just have music play... thanks oerheks
[01:21] <oerheks> have fun!
[01:21] <guiverc> (snap version also makes noise on mouse.clicks, i'm not getting that from deb version, otherwise same for both)
[01:21] <guiverc> :)
[01:25] <JanC> HexChat is Gtk2, so it uses X...
[01:26] <guiverc> yep.. last gtk2 app I think on this box..
[01:26] <JanC> (=XWayland when you use Gnome on Wayland)
[01:27] <JanC> so if the "clickety-clack" apps only work on X11, it's quite possible HexChat works, but most other apps won't...
[01:28] <guiverc> ^ which is what it appears to be doing here (ubuntu noble)
[01:30] <arraybolt3> I just use a really loud keyboard :)
[01:31] <arraybolt3> (some sort of ancient Microsoft thing that connects via PS/2 which I then connect to my desktop and then can use on my laptop with the help of Barrier).
[01:31] <arraybolt3> keys are a bit too hard to press for my liking, but it's a decent keyboard all the same.
[01:37] <guiverc> I am using mostly old ibm model M.. but when summarizing for uwn I like the additional 'echo' of the keys from speakers...
[01:39] <guiverc> (if it really worried me, I could log & return to a lubuntu session & I get normal behavior.. likewise xubuntu too.. and maybe even GNOME if I logged in with Xorg session which I think is available)
[01:41] <oerheks> or use quassel ?
[01:41] <guiverc> nah.. I want the sound when I type into mousepad as i type out summaries reading from firefox...  hexchat is the only window giving me sound currently..
[01:51] <JanC> should work in Gimp too...
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> good morning


[06:44] <enyc> hrrm is ubuntu-boot dead?  I directed user 'arj' to this network whose having initramfs / cryptsetup problem
[06:45] <enyc> and #ubuntu-boot listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList  but only log bot and me there ;p
[06:45] <enyc> anybody in kernel land know where to go?
[07:49] <arj_> enyc, asked a question for me here, as I was unaware that I was still on the freenode server :D
[07:50] <arj_> I had some trouble with a broken cryptsetup after a reboot (and probably update). Would it be possible if someone removes the cryptsetup-initramfs package, to check in inittramd generation, that it does not boot anymore?
[07:53] <enyc> arj_: /etc/cryptsetup-initramfs/conf-hook   ... try setting CRYPTSETUP=y  and then  sudo dpkg-reconfigure cryptsetup  and  sudo update-grub    ..........
[07:53] <enyc> not sure if tats' exactly the same on current ubuntu
[07:55] <arj_> I managed to get it working again now, by reinstalling all cryptsetup* packages.
[07:55] <arj_> in a chroot environment.
[07:56] <enyc> arj_: oh wow =)  I suspect this kernel devel channel is not right either, go to #ubnutu probably best
[07:57] <arj_> It's working, so I'll stop spamming. enyc thanks for support, both morally and technically ;-)
[08:31] <enyc> =)


[04:12] <m4n1sh> does ubuntu have libgit2-glib packaged? I can't find so
[04:34] <pitti> Good morning
[06:22] <pitti> didrocks: bonjour! ça va ?
[06:23] <didrocks> pitti: ça va bien, et toi?
[06:23] <pitti> didrocks: ça va bien aussi
[06:23] <pitti> didrocks: I'm enjoying the PS autolanding machinery
[06:23] <pitti> it's effing awesome!
[06:23] <pitti> (the upstream parts for now)
[06:24] <pitti> i. e. the PS jenkins bot verifying my branches, and automerging them, and adjusting the bugs accordingly
[06:24] <pitti> ♪ it's a kind of maaa-giiiic ♫
[06:24] <pitti> didrocks: anyway, I'm currently fixing my ap-gtk tests for raring, and I stumbled over something odd
[06:25] <didrocks> heh :) excellent!
[06:25] <pitti> didrocks: in saucy, some programs reverted back to having an integrated menu, like gtimelog or my hello_color.py test program
[06:25] <didrocks> they were in some kind of backlist before?
[06:25] <pitti> didrocks: in raring they have a global menu, which makes the GtkMenuItem widgets not "really" appear
[06:25] <pitti> didrocks: so, do you know, is that a deliberate change, or is it a regression?
[06:25] <didrocks> yeah, now we are using unity-gtk3-module
[06:26] <didrocks> pitti: it's developped by attente
[06:26] <didrocks> feel free to ping him about it :)
[06:26] <didrocks> (and adding a test :p)
[06:26] <pitti> didrocks: it certainly feels like a regression to me, but I wasn't sure whether perhaps these days global menu is limited to GMenuModel
[06:26] <pitti> gtimelog and my hello program don't use that (I don't know how that works, TBH)
[06:26] <didrocks> pitti: this is why autopilot-gtk fails to build I guess, due to tests :)
[06:27] <didrocks> like https://launchpadlibrarian.net/143526534/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-armhf.autopilot-gtk_1.3daily13.06.05bzr47saucy0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[06:27] <didrocks> pitti: no, it's merging both
[06:27] <didrocks> AFAIK
[06:27] <pitti> didrocks: no, like https://launchpad.net/~autopilot/+archive/ppa/+build/4748902/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-i386.autopilot-gtk_1.3daily13.06.05bzr46raring0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[06:27] <darkxst> pitti, hi
[06:27] <pitti> didrocks: actually, not that either, that's just because raring's gnome-session-log is different
[06:27] <didrocks> well, similar to the FTBFS in the unity-build ppa
[06:27] <didrocks> ah?
[06:27] <didrocks> hey darkxst
[06:28] <pitti> didrocks: it only happens if you run the test under a full unity; the tests under xvfb are fine, as there you don't have a global menu
[06:28] <darkxst> hi didrocks
[06:28] <pitti> didrocks: oh, is that from a distro autolanding attempt?
[06:28] <pitti> hey darkxst
[06:28] <didrocks> pitti: right
[06:28] <didrocks> pitti: the QA stack is rejected because of this FTBFS
[06:28] <darkxst> pitti, any chance you can look into the retracer sometime soon?
[06:29] <pitti> didrocks: not sure what's wrong with that test; I never got a negative ID here (and it's certainly not a bug in the test)
[06:29] <pitti> didrocks: thanks for pointing out, let's see how the next attempt goes; today I'm landing actual fixes, not just tests
[06:30] <pitti> darkxst: argh, that; sorry, it keeps being pushed down in my list :/
[06:30] <pitti> didrocks: ah, I just got those FTBFS mails
[06:31] <didrocks> pitti: ok, let's see ;)
[06:32] <pitti> same on armhf
[06:33] <pitti> didrocks: they all pass all the time in the PS Jenkins bot runs; do you see a fundamental difference between those and the autopilot archive?
[06:33] <didrocks> pitti: they don't use a real PPA
[06:33] <pitti> didrocks: oh, of course -- the autopilot GTK potentially has newer/changed/broken dependencies?
[06:33] <didrocks> it's just a pbuilder
[06:33] <didrocks> pitti: also yeah
[06:33] <pitti> when I do my tests in sbuild, I only build autopilot-gtk on saucy
[06:34] <pitti> not on saucy + the autopilot PPA
[06:34] <didrocks> pitti: I don't know about the autopilot PPA
[06:34] <pitti> I bet/hope that's the difference
[06:34] <didrocks> I think it's stupid they are using it, but it's another story :
[06:34] <didrocks> :)
[06:34] <didrocks> (already told them, and they don't care)
[06:34] <didrocks> daily-build PPA has new QA stack content, right
[06:34] <didrocks> (the ~ubuntu-unity/daily-build)
[06:34] <pitti> well, I got https://launchpad.net/~autopilot/+archive/ppa/+build/4750560, that's similar to the build log you gave me, right?
[06:36] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, but TBH, I just care about the ppa I support to get into distro (maybe things didn't get build in the same order ;))
[06:36] <pitti> didrocks: ok, so this is not the distro autolanding, and won't block it?
[06:36] <pitti> didrocks: so, I'll try here with the autopilot PPA, this might point to a regression in trunk which hasn't landed in the distro yet
[06:37] <didrocks> pitti: we have the same failure (see my first log) in the daily-build ppa
[06:37] <pitti> didrocks: ah, ok
[06:37] <didrocks> pitti: so I guess it's a regression part from a part of the QA stack (maybe autopilot itself)
[06:38]  * pitti ♥ tests
[06:40] <darkxst> pitti, would be really useful! we still getting a lot of crash reports from raring+ppa which are most likely relevant to saucy
[07:04] <jibel> good morning
[07:12] <didrocks> salut jibel!
[07:13] <jibel> Salut didrocks , ça va?
[07:17] <didrocks> ça va bien, et toi? :)
[07:18]  * didrocks just finished cleaning a little bit lightdm
[07:19] <jibel> didrocks, pas mal, je continue avec l'autolanding sur touch, en esperant que le fix kernel arrivera aujourd'hui
[07:19] <didrocks> jibel: ah, cool! ils modifient la config donc?
[07:19] <didrocks> (pour grouper)
[07:20] <jibel> didrocks, yes, it has been fixed yesterday, next upload will have it.
[07:40] <seb128> hey desktopers
[07:40] <pitti> it's a seb, run!
[07:40]  * pitti donne une accolade à seb128, bonjour !
[07:42] <seb128> pitti, good morning freedom lover! ;-)
[07:42]  * seb128 donne une accolade à pitti en retour, ça va bien ?
[07:42] <pitti> seb128: oui, merci
[07:47] <pitti> didrocks: so wrt. the weird negative ID, I saw that in the autopilot PPA armhf build logs sometimes (but not always, e. g. the latest saucy build there worked fine)
[07:47] <pitti> didrocks: did you ever see this on non-armhf?
[07:47] <didrocks> pitti: weird, as you can see, it seems to happen everytime in the daily-build PPA (all archs)
[07:47] <didrocks> let me look, one sec
[07:47] <didrocks> salut seb128!
[07:47] <pitti> didrocks: oh, do you have a link to the PPA?
[07:47] <didrocks> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build
[07:48] <didrocks> pitti: ah no, latest build :)
[07:48] <pitti> didrocks: I want 1.3+13.10.20130627-0ubuntu1 , not 0.4daily13.03.11-0ubuntu1 , right?
[07:48] <didrocks> I just did the autopilot-gtk ppa
[07:48] <didrocks> saw*
[07:48] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, so everything's fine here :)
[07:48] <pitti> didrocks: 7 hours ago, all pass
[07:49] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, getting too much random ppa by subscription emails
[07:49] <didrocks> I read the ones from the autopilot PPA as daily-build PPA, sorry :)
[07:49] <pitti> didrocks: I am currently running package builds in my i386 saucy sbuild with the autopilot PPA enabled, so far I got 2/2 passes
[07:49] <pitti> didrocks: ok, then we are on the same page
[07:49] <pitti> didrocks: some weirdness in the emulated armhf PPA builders then?
[07:50] <pitti> didrocks: so the next automatic daily build will pick up the fixes, add changelogs, and upload to saucy?
[07:50] <didrocks> pitti: seems so… yeah for not reliable environment :)
[07:50] <didrocks> pitti: this one should, let me see before sil2100 starts his day why QA didn't get published yet
[07:50] <pitti> didrocks: no hurry, I'm currently landing some more fixes
[07:51] <didrocks> pitti: manual publishing :)
[07:51] <pitti> didrocks: I guess I messed up the commit logs of my first two MPs a bit, as I added an (LP: #XXXX) into the commit message in the MP
[07:51] <didrocks> pitti: so tests pass, everything built, integration tests pass, it's just in manual publishing as there are packaging mode
[07:51] <pitti> didrocks: so I guess it'll end up there twice (but it's mostly cosmetic)
[07:51] <didrocks> pitti: so once sil2100 reviewed those, it will be published in distro
[07:51] <pitti> didrocks: sorry for all these questions, this is still a bit new to me
[07:51] <didrocks> hum, shoudln't be duplicated :)
[07:52] <didrocks> if you touch debian/changelog, in a MP, I don't readd the commit message
[07:52] <didrocks> pitti: see the generated changelog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5803964/
[07:53] <didrocks> ah, you meant, you added the number into the commit message :)
[07:53] <pitti> didrocks: no, I added it to the "commit message" in the MP, not d/changelog
[07:53] <didrocks> pitti: nice test case to add to avoid that duplication
[07:53] <pitti> didrocks: right; so it appears twice there
[07:53] <pitti> didrocks: sorry about that, I won't add it in future MPs
[07:53] <didrocks> pitti: no worry, I'll handle that case ;) Most of people using that LP: # syntax does directly in debian/changelog
[07:54] <didrocks> so I didn't get that case, interesting one :)
[07:54] <didrocks> should be easy to fix, for future uploads, let me have a try
[07:55] <pitti> didrocks: if it didn't happen until now, don't worry; I won't do it again :)
[07:55] <didrocks> pitti: in fact, I don't reduplicate the bug if you listed it manually already, but in that case, both were injected at the same time :)
[07:56] <didrocks> I can fix that easily I guess, let me have a try later today
[08:00] <sil2100> didrocks: it's in manual publishing mode, checking what's up - I'll publish it once you ACK the packaging changes ;) http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/QA/job/cu2d-qa-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_autopilot-gtk_1.3+13.10.20130627-0ubuntu1.diff
[08:00] <sil2100> didrocks: btw. I think Thomi and Chris might be ignoring my e-mails!
[08:01] <didrocks> sil2100: I'm not sure I'll approve pitti's packaging changes :p
[08:01] <sil2100> didrocks: since I sent them like 2 e-mails about autopilot issues and they didn't answer me even once
[08:01] <didrocks> sil2100: but wait, there is a trailing comma after the deps! ok, let's +1 then :)
[08:01] <sil2100> thomi: veebers: ?
[08:01] <pitti> didrocks: haha
[08:01] <sil2100> hehe
[08:01]  * didrocks hugs pitti
[08:01] <seb128> hey sil2100
[08:01] <sil2100> Hey seb128
[08:01] <didrocks> sil2100: yeah, I know as well that some other people contacted them and no answer… do we still need them for anything?
[08:02] <pitti> sil2100, didrocks: btw, your last daily build only has the test suite, but none of the actual fixes (these just landed a few hours ago, and I'm currently working on the last bug fix)
[08:02] <pitti> so no hurry
[08:02] <didrocks> ok
[08:02] <sil2100> didrocks: there's that 'show_desktop' issue with autopilot still I see ;/ The indicators stack is haunted by that
[08:02] <seb128> didrocks, when is Mirv back? next week? do you know if landing  qtsystems to the archive is planned?
[08:02] <didrocks> seb128: he's back next week yeah. He has a task for qtsystems
[08:03] <Laney> morning!
[08:03] <didrocks> sil2100: argh, it's annoying… did you know about one commit showing that issue?
[08:03] <seb128> Laney, howdy
[08:03] <didrocks> sil2100: if so, we have given them enough time and we can revert it
[08:04] <seb128> Laney, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.8/+bug/1194123 ... look at the 2 most recent comments
[08:04] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1194123 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "[gcc-linaro wrong-code regression] gcc 4.8.1-2ubuntu1 to 4.8.1-3ubuntu1 breaks gtk on armhf" [High,New]
[08:04] <sil2100> didrocks: not sure, but since I can't contact the AP guys, I'll look into that and try finding when it got broken, or maybe work-around it somehow
[08:04] <sil2100> didrocks: in the meantime: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Platform/job/cu2d-platform-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_platform-api_0.18.1+13.10.20130627-0ubuntu1.diff <- could you ACK? It's a risky change, but I guess it's necessary
[08:05] <didrocks> sil2100: yeah, let's first move on all the other stacks :)
[08:06] <didrocks> sil2100: we built with it until now, so reverting isn't risky (and it broke ABI for them), so +1
[08:09] <sil2100> didrocks: ok, published everything that I could - the media stack seems to have one flacky test that's failing on -ati all the time, I'll try fetching renato or Omer to look into that
[08:09] <sil2100> Since re-running the test suite didn't help
[08:10] <didrocks> sil2100: perfect! thanks :)
[08:10] <didrocks> sil2100: so everything is ok but indicators and unity, right?
[08:10] <didrocks> because of this AP thingy…
[08:11] <sil2100> Yes, and media - but I'll check why it's failing and maybe try publishing anyway if it's not anything obviously broken maybe
[08:12] <didrocks> sil2100: ok ;) and something else, seb128 asked to revert the oif stack
[08:12] <didrocks> sil2100: in raring
[08:12] <didrocks> sil2100: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eog/+bug/1194714
[08:12] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1194714 in eog (Ubuntu) "eog crashes on startup" [Undecided,New]
[08:12] <seb128> didrocks, infinity: infinity deleted the libgrip update from -proposed on my request
[08:12] <didrocks> sil2100: that's why the oif stack is in manual publishing mode (it rebuilt as there is a diff with the revert)
[08:13] <seb128> ups
[08:13] <seb128> sil2100, ^
[08:13] <seb128> infinity, sorry for the ping :p
[08:13] <didrocks> sil2100: do you mind reaching out bregma so that this is fixed?
[08:13] <sil2100> Ok ;)
[08:13] <didrocks> then, we can just publish that one
[08:47] <sil2100> didrocks: hm, the mediaplayer-app test failure makes no sense, looks like an autopilot issue - since the video shows all is ok
[08:47] <sil2100> didrocks: can I publish? (first normally then force?)
[08:47] <didrocks> sil2100: yeah, but please, email the guys about it :)
[08:54] <sil2100> didrocks: some packaging changes to ACK - I know those are OK since I approved the merges myself ;p : http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Media/job/cu2d-media-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_qtubuntu-camera_0.3.3+13.10.20130627-0ubuntu1.diff and http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Media/job/cu2d-media-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_qtubuntu-media_0.7.1
[08:54] <sil2100> didrocks: I already e-mailed renato and omer
[08:55] <Laney> mlankhorst: here?
[08:55] <mlankhorst> yeah
[08:55] <Laney> Could it be ...
[08:55] <Laney> that new X broke my custom volume up/down/mute keybindings that I set in gnome?
[08:55] <didrocks> sil2100: good for both :)
[08:59] <Laney> mlankhorst: ^ it certainly seems so (reverting got them back)
[08:59] <mlankhorst> hm
[09:00] <mlankhorst> bit busy with kernel fallout atm :P
[09:00] <Laney> jus' sayin
[09:02] <mlankhorst> can you try with xev?
[09:02] <Laney> the events seem ok
[09:02] <Laney> I can set the keys in the keyboard capplet
[09:03] <Laney> but then when I press them the action doesn't happen
[09:03]  * Laney unrevers
[09:03] <Laney> with speelig gud
[09:05] <seb128> Laney, can you run /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gsd-test-input-helper
[09:05] <seb128> Laney, with the broken and working xorg?
[09:05] <seb128> you should have a "Supports XInput2:			yes (opcode: 131)"
[09:06] <Laney> XInput2: no
[09:06] <seb128> that's the issue
[09:06] <Laney> with the new xorg
[09:07] <seb128> Laney, mlankhorst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5804131/
[09:07] <seb128> is the test function
[09:08] <seb128> Laney, it might be easier to build g-s-d and play with plugins/common/test-input-helper.c
[09:09] <seb128> e.g test with the helper
[09:09] <seb128> plugins/common/gsd-input-helper.c has the helper code
[09:10] <seb128> Laney, can you try https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/commit/?id=14f92b1479aa065edf3f0aa86b87d4c4ff1fe2ba ?
[09:10] <Laney> yeah I just found that
[09:11] <seb128> mlankhorst, that doesn't give great confidence on how much you guys tested the new xorg during those months you have been testing it...
[09:19] <mlankhorst> it was not a bug in xorg though :p
[09:21] <seb128> mlankhorst, right, still the xorg update should break desktop functionalities...
[09:22] <Laney> still doesn't work
[09:22] <Laney> now ait
[09:22] <Laney> that time the bug was in me :P
[09:22] <Laney> does work :-)
[09:25] <seb128> Laney, great ... but I guess g-s-d with the patch doesn't work on xorg 1.13? e.g we need to group those updates?
[09:25] <Laney> trying
[09:25] <Laney> if not then mlankhorst can upload it to his ppa
[09:25] <mlankhorst> i guess it will work on x1.13
[09:25] <Laney> yeah seems fine
[09:25] <seb128> great
[09:25] <seb128> we should get that g-s-d patch in saucy then ;-)
[09:26]  * Laney uploads
[09:26] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[09:26] <Laney> looks like it would have been in 3.8 though
[09:27] <seb128> Laney, well, 3.8 has https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/commit/?id=b0cee1df30b
[09:27] <seb128> not sure how that will play out for us
[09:28] <mlankhorst> but that patch looks familiar somehow, or maybe it was the previous one that tested for xi22.
[09:28] <mlankhorst> xi2.2*
[09:28] <seb128> mlankhorst, https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/commit/?id=a249eb98818547fef4865382c6db2298d268b293 was the one we tested in precise for the lts backport stack
[09:29] <mlankhorst> ah no wonder
[09:29] <mlankhorst> :D
[09:29] <darkxst> Oh, I have seen that too...
[09:31] <darkxst> btw, still a WIP but I have g-s-d 3.8 working ok with 3.6, not withstanding ibus and wacom
[09:31] <Laney> want to test media keys on unity?
[09:31] <darkxst> Laney, I already fixed that a while back
[09:31] <Laney> ref that commit ^?
[09:32] <darkxst> Laney, its a patch in the package on gnome3-staging
[09:32] <darkxst> basically just reverted the upstream removal , with if_unity gaurds
[09:32] <Laney> k
[09:34] <darkxst> Laney, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/gnome-settings-daemon/ubuntu/view/head:/debian/patches/fix_media_keys_on_unity.patch
[09:35] <darkxst> and http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/gnome-settings-daemon/ubuntu/view/head:/debian/patches/git_revert_gsd-keygrab.patch
[09:35] <darkxst> but the second is a straight git revert
[09:36] <Laney> What's the proper fix here?
[09:37] <darkxst> Laney, the proper fix, assuming you follow gnome style, is to move the keygrabber into unity
[09:37] <Laney> have unity do the key grabbing too
[09:38] <darkxst> yeh
[09:38] <Laney> I wonder how this plays out with Mir
[09:39] <darkxst> no idea
[09:40] <darkxst> but if Mir inteferes with the input events, you will have problems either way
[09:43] <sil2100> didrocks: btw.! The i915.semaphores=0 fix that popey mentioned seems to work in a way ;)
[09:44] <sil2100> didrocks: since I still get the "GPU hung" issues, but it doesn't crash compiz anymore ;p Now, whenever it hangs, I only have to switch to a different tty and back and my compiz is still running without problems!
[09:45] <didrocks> sil2100: ah, in fact, that's the kind of issue I have already
[09:45] <didrocks> would be nice to have the kernel team looking at those though
[09:45] <popey> +100
[09:46]  * didrocks takes a deep breath and try to build the mir stack
[10:32] <tsdgeos> hi guys, qgit complains it's not installed but it is installed
[10:32] <tsdgeos> i think it's because installs the binary to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qgit instead of /usr/bin
[10:32] <tsdgeos> who do i complain to?
[10:33] <ogra_> dpkg -S /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qgit .... file a bug against the package that returns
[10:38] <xnox> didrocks: popey: +++
[10:41]  * didrocks just counted and we have 234 components daily releasing now \o/
[10:45] <seb128> didrocks, impressive (though component != source right? e.g if a same source release to 2 series you count 2
[10:50] <didrocks> seb128: yep, hence the world of component ;)
[10:50] <didrocks> seb128: can give you the status in head, just polishing my script
[10:52] <didrocks> argh, I had some ~1~
[10:52] <didrocks> let me clean that as well to not count more :p
[10:55] <didrocks> ok, "only" 133 :p
[10:58] <seb128> I'm glad I don't have to maintain "only" that number of packages :p
[11:02] <didrocks> this doesn't match, I think I can't +1 normally
[11:02] <didrocks> counting manually the number of projects I print, and there is more :p
[11:03] <didrocks> oh, a typo, here we go!
[11:03] <didrocks> I was just counting raring :p
[11:03]  * didrocks copies the fixed script to the branch with mir and unity8
[11:04] <didrocks> ah, this starts to make more sense :)
[11:05] <didrocks> so 234 was the right numbers :p
[11:05] <didrocks> I just made a booboo when copying that back between branches and changing path
[11:06] <didrocks> of those: 175 in head (saucy)
[11:06] <didrocks> and so 59 in raring
[11:06] <didrocks> let's commit the script in trunk, would be useful for the future :)
[11:08] <didrocks> ok, meanwhile the unity8 stack (minus unity8 itself for now) built and is in next
[11:08] <didrocks> mir stack is still building
[11:19] <seb128> darkxst, jbicha: in case you didn't see it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-data-server/+bug/1193018
[11:19] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1193018 in evolution-data-server (Ubuntu) "GOA support not completely split" [High,New]
[11:19] <seb128> could one of you talk to upstream about it? (or we will have to turn goa off in the Ubuntu builds)
[13:58] <kgunn> mlankhorst: ping
[14:12] <mlankhorst> is it urgent?
[15:15] <sil2100> attente: ping!
[15:15] <attente> sil2100, pong
[15:15] <sil2100> attente: hi! Not sure if that's a known issue or just something broken on my system, but I noticed that GIMP menus are broken for me when using unity-gtk-module
[15:16] <attente> sil2100, seems to be fine for me. what issues are you running into?
[15:17] <sil2100> attente: hm, strangely I cannot reproduce those right now, but I noticed such things yesterday:
[15:18] <didrocks> attente: not only gimp, pitti mentionned some apps as well
[15:18] <didrocks> seb128: see, complains after all, but I agree, it took time! ^
[15:18] <sil2100> When I use GIMP for a while, menu states seem to get out-of-date, i.e. I for instance have an image opened, modify it but the 'Save' menu entries are grayed out
[15:18] <sil2100> attente: even though that when I right click to get the context menu, I see those menu entries enabled
[15:19] <sil2100> attente: basically I cannot use the panel then and have to perform all menu actions in the context menu of gimp
[15:19] <seb128> didrocks, oh, I've no doubt new code has bugs ... ;-)
[15:19] <seb128> didrocks, sil2100: do you guys have bug reports?
[15:19] <attente> sil2100, fascinating... i've never used gimp for extended periods of time
[15:19] <sil2100> seb128: will fill in a bug ;) I just noticed it recently
[15:20] <seb128> pitti, ^
[15:20] <sil2100> Ok, maybe I saw it previously, but thought it was because of my compiz crashing
[15:20] <didrocks> attente: you should raise the artistic part in you!
[15:20] <attente> didrocks, ;-)
[15:23] <Laney> that reminds me to file my unity-gtk-module bug
[15:23] <Laney> muhahaha
[15:28] <jbicha> chrisccoulson: aah, you guys changed the Firefox logo again in 23 http://www.nsaneforums.com/topic/175697-firefox-gets-new-logo/
[15:31] <chrisccoulson> jbicha, that wasn't anything to do with me ;)
[15:32] <chrisccoulson> i wonder why people are obsessed with making completely flat icons now? first chrome, now firefox...
[15:32] <chrisccoulson> i prefer the old one ;)
[15:32] <jbicha> chrisccoulson: I blame you for everything to do with Firefox ;)
[15:32] <chrisccoulson> lol
[15:33] <chrisccoulson> jbicha, technically, it's not my responsibility anymore. i don't do any work on it at all (other than the minimum required to just keep it up-to-date)
[15:33] <chrisccoulson> jbicha, do you know anyone who would like to maintain it?
[15:33] <jbicha> chrisccoulson: really? what do you do now then?
[15:34] <chrisccoulson> jbicha, i changed teams a while ago (i'm on the security team now)
[15:35] <jbicha> oh wow, congrats
[15:35]  * jdstrand hugs chrisccoulson :)
[15:35]  * chrisccoulson hugs jdstrand :)
[15:45] <ritz> mterry hi, pm.
[16:24] <ritz> seb128 hi, who works with compiz ?
[16:24] <seb128> ritz, with compiz? like as user? most Ubuntu users
[16:24] <seb128> unity is based on it
[16:24] <ritz> as in dev, a bug with clip redraw+nvidia prop driver
[16:25] <seb128> try asking on #ubuntu-unity, smspillaz and MCR
[16:25] <ritz> sweet, thanks :)
[16:36]  * didrocks waves good evening
[16:43] <seb128> jbicha, hey, did you see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-data-server/+bug/1193018 ? it would be nice if somebody upstream it, we either need to get that fixed or to turn goa off in the eds build
[16:43] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1193018 in evolution-data-server (Ubuntu) "GOA support not completely split" [High,New]
[16:52] <Sweetshark> seb128: could you nominate bug 1194740 for precise? as it is already fixed in later series ...
[16:52] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1194740 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[precise] Saving xls files originally created in Excel 2003 causes considerable increase of file size" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1194740
[16:53] <jbicha> seb128: I think it's a bit early to propose breaking goa...I'll look into it
[17:04] <Sweetshark> ^^ 450 people installed the libreoffice 4.1.0~rc1 prerelease from the ppa so far. thats pretty good for a rc that is claiming to eat your cat and kill your babies.
[17:37] <seb128> Sweetshark, done
[17:37] <Sweetshark> seb128: thanks
[17:39] <seb128> jbicha, thanks, and I'm not "proposed breaking goa", but you ship uoa anyway so account would just work ... and in any case I'm not wanting to break anything but it create practical issues for phone builds and we will need the issue resolved one way or another there... we could build without uoa on armhf only as a workaround
[17:39] <jbicha> seb128: UG doesn't include UOA in saucy
[17:40] <seb128> jbicha, oh, ok, I though you had both for some reason
[17:40] <jbicha> yeah, we'll pick one or the other but we're trying GOA for now :)
[17:42] <seb128> good luck, I'm not going to be verbose again about why I think that's going to be increasingly harder and that you should take uoa as a platform technology (similar to e.g upstart)
[17:42] <jbicha> it's not like we have a choice about upstart...
[17:42] <jbicha> I assume you recommend Mir too :)
[17:42] <seb128> well, as much as you have about uoa
[17:43] <seb128> lol, I don't recommend it
[17:43] <seb128> I just wouldn't like to be the one fighting against the stream
[17:43] <jbicha> no, the Foundations Team has blocked systemd as possible init from Ubuntu
[17:43] <seb128> you could have it in a ppa or something, but I guess you would stop having an official flavor for that...
[17:43] <jbicha> I think Kubuntu & Ubuntu GNOME would be crazy enough to go full systemd if we could...
[17:44] <seb128> desktop should perhaps block goa as possible online account to make your job easier :p
[17:44] <desrt> jbicha: why don't you work on making gnome in debian better?
[17:45] <jbicha> lol :)
[17:45] <desrt> no joke
[17:45] <desrt> they could use help with staying up to date, it seems
[17:45] <jbicha> desrt: I was laughing at seb, not you
[17:45] <seb128> desrt, GNOME on Debian is more uptodate that it is on Ubuntu nowadays
[17:46] <seb128> desrt, Collabora guys are throwing quite some time at it (I guess they use it a base for stuff they work on)
[17:46]  * desrt wonders what the point is, then....
[17:46] <jbicha> desrt: I think I do as much as I can in Debian without having upload rights and I don't care enough to go through the beauracracy to get them with everything else going on in my life these days
[17:46] <Sweetshark> seb128: also libreoffice 4.0.4 (not found) should be SRUed soonish for raring. Its seen 2140 raring, 2200 quantal and 14275 precise downloads from the generic ppa and 1192 raring, 1862 quantal and 5930 precise from the libreoffice-4-0 ppa without any desasters being reported.
[17:46] <desrt> jbicha: fair enough.... i just wonder why you keep banging your head on a brick wall
[17:47] <seb128> Sweetshark, sounds good to me
[17:47]  * desrt heads to lunch
[17:47] <jbicha> desrt: because I think GNOME is the best desktop and Ubuntu is the best foundation
[17:47] <Sweetshark> .oo(woha, that 27600 downloads from the ppa alone ...)
[18:14] <Sweetshark> seb128: so in the libreoffice 3.5 precise ppa we'll have a update soon that fixes bug 1194740, bug 628105 and bug 1176923. Does that warrant a SRU? Last SRU was on 2013-02-15 ...
[18:14] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1194740 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Precise) "[precise] Saving xls files originally created in Excel 2003 causes considerable increase of file size" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1194740
[18:14] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 628105 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Quantal) "[Upstream] Text not black in LibreOffice" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628105
[18:59] <seb128> Sweetshark, seems fine to SRU a fix if you have one for the issue
[19:14] <desrt> jbicha: ubuntu is like debian plus upstart... and now you want to remove upstart and add systemd :p
[19:19]  * Laney hugs jbicha - please keep banging on that foam wall ;-)
[19:19] <Guest8506> Hello i use ubuntu 10.04 with gnome 2.30.2 i would like have no icons in the main menu !?
[19:20] <seb128> desrt, don't forget the regular releases, the nice tools, etc ;-)
[19:20] <seb128> Guest8506, hey, try #ubuntu for user questions
[19:20] <Laney> the lack of maintainer lock :P
[19:20] <Guest8506> there iam right now too
[19:21] <jbicha> and a 6 month release cycle
[19:21] <Guest8506> do i need to compile the gnome-panel by myself?
[19:21] <Laney> this isn't the place to get help with that kind of thing, sorry
[19:21] <Guest8506> Laney, ok bye
[19:22] <jbicha> Guest8506: Ubuntu 10.04 is no longer supported except for servers anyway
[19:22] <Laney> if #ubuntu fails you try askubuntu.com
[19:22] <Guest8506> yes i know
[19:22] <Guest8506> thx
[19:22] <Guest8506> bye
[19:23] <ricotz> Sweetshark, btw dont trust stats of arch-all packages
[19:24] <ricotz> Sweetshark, how many 4.1 precise downloads?
[19:27] <Sweetshark> ricotz: why not trust arch-all?
[19:29] <Sweetshark> ricotz: I took libreoffice-common as base and assumed it to be the amd64 and i386 downloads combined (as in I did not double that number ;) )
[19:29] <ricotz> Sweetshark, look at the stats of e.g. the writer binary package and compare them
[19:29] <Sweetshark> ricotz: some ~420 precise downloads of 4.1.0 rc1 (vs. some 30 for saucy). Cowards! :)
[19:30] <Sweetshark> ricotz: people might not download writer, just calc?
[19:30] <Sweetshark> ricotz: if anything -core should be a comparison.
[19:31] <ricotz> ok, then compare that one
[19:34] <Sweetshark> ricotz: 4.0.4 in the main ppa on precise: 7292 -core and 14570 -common on amd64, 7199 -core and 14570 -common on i386. the two -cores add up to 14491 so reasonably close.
[19:34] <ricotz> Sweetshark, will try to look into the raring 4.1 failure tomorrow or weekend
[19:35] <ricotz> ok
[19:36] <seb128> ricotz, jbicha: did you guys look at the new zg dbus api changes and if anything in the archive use those interfaces?
[19:36] <Sweetshark> 0.5% aborts/connectivity issues/whatever do not seem too unreasonable ...
[19:38] <ricotz> seb128, i am running zg2 for some time and havent seen noticeable breakages (not running unity though)
[19:38] <ricotz> seb128, but i guess mhr3 would have complained already ;)
[19:38] <seb128> he didn't check it out yet apparently
[19:39] <seb128> and the new version was blocked in proposed due to alpha1
[19:39] <mhr3> ricotz, i'm blessfully using the distro zg :)
[19:39] <seb128> but e.g the file lens and the private panel use directly the dbus api
[19:39] <seb128> mhr3, well, ricotz update and TheMuso uploaded to saucy yesterday
[19:39] <seb128> but I guess neither of them checked the dbus api users
[19:39] <ricotz> mhr3, go upgrade then! ;)
[19:40] <mhr3> seb128, i think we keep the dbus api stable ;)
[19:40] <mhr3> ...these days anyway :)
[19:40] <seb128> mhr3, that's not what blog posts suggest
[19:40] <mhr3> ricotz, you mean to run S on my machine? eeek :P
[19:40] <seb128> 0.9 apparently breaks dbus and lib apis
[19:40] <mhr3> seb128, ehm?
[19:41] <mhr3> show me that blog post and i'll jump on someone
[19:41] <ricotz> mhr3, saucy runs fine with some kicks
[19:41] <mhr3> ricotz, see, /me no likey kicks
[19:42] <ricotz> hehe
[19:42] <jbicha> seb128: I assume there's still time to put a block in place if you want to verify zg2 is safe first
[19:43] <seb128> mhr3, hum, ignore that, quick googling confused me
[19:44] <seb128> jbicha, well, I'm not, I just hope that those who did the update did the checking ;-)
[19:44] <ricotz> Sweetshark, lo4.1:  29 saucy, 359 precise
[19:45] <ricotz> Sweetshark, you might got the aggregate of all ~ppaX revisions
[20:02] <Sweetshark> ricotz: lol, no -- just a typo ...
[20:05] <ricotz> Sweetshark, hehe, i am really surprise about the precise count though


[00:41] <superm1> bryce, i had to duck out earlier before i caught you.  are you around now by chance?
[00:44] <bryce> yup
[00:44] <superm1> i was gonna let you know that i talked to AMD about how to get proprietary drivers to take precedence in X auto detection
[00:45] <superm1> they indicated that simply shipping a /usr/share/xserver-xorg/pci/00fglrx.ids (and similar for nvidia) should do the trick
[00:45] <superm1> so long as those are shipped in the appropriate driver packages (since you only want them in those cases), should work
[00:54] <bryce> ah ok
[00:55] <superm1> i'm at a bit of a loss how exactly the name gets put into it, but i'll do some experimenting with it next week
[00:55] <superm1> so long as it works right (and you're cool with the idea of putting that in the packages), i'll add it in
[00:57] <bryce> I'm not really sure, I'd need to consider it more closely.  I'd especially like to get timo's opinion on it.
[00:58] <superm1> ok, then its good i brought it up before just "doing that".  i'll touch bases with you after i get a chance to make sure it works properly
[00:59] <bryce> ok great
[09:15] <tjaalton> bryce: cool, I should've done something for mesa, but didn't..
[09:17] <tjaalton> but there's life beyond .1
[10:49] <jcristau> superm1: that won't work i think, it'll load the '00fglrx' driver
[14:20] <superm1> jcristau, yeah that's what i was thinking too.  perhaps it will have to be diverting the ati driver and using fglrx.ids then
[14:20] <superm1> i'll see what happens for me when i start to try it
[14:21] <jcristau> ewww diversions


[03:02] <mitchdz> sergiodj: yes, sorry I should’ve written as a comment that it’s fine to review now
[03:02] <mitchdz> Was originally waiting for noble to do the review and then realized I don’t need to wait for that
[12:12] <ueberall> Hi. How long does it usually take for a new version (here: Noble) to show up on https://packages.ubuntu.com/ ?
[12:22] <JanC> until the admin adds it probably
[12:57] <bittin> Upgrading my test VM to noble atm :)
[13:23] <bittin> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034064478762967080/1167815623506661427/Ubuntunumbat.png


[01:04] <mitchdz> Mmike: which image are you booting and how are you invoking kvm?
[01:09] <MTecknology> ooooh ... maybe the next iteration of *ubiquity is going to be systemd-cloudinitd
[07:39] <Mmike> mitchdz, I'm using virt-install to create a vm. When I feed it 'normal' cloud image it boots fine, cloudinit starts (although I don't see an output of cloudinit on the console, but that's separate issue, probably just PEBKAC), but with ubuntu minimal cloud image I get that GRUB message and it stalls there
[07:40] <Mmike> This stalls: virt-install --name cl-test-minimal --memory 4096 --vcpus=4 --osinfo ubuntu22.04 --disk path=./cl-test-minimal.qcow2 --disk ~/cloudimages/cloudinit-data.iso,device=cdrom --import
[07:40] <Mmike> This works: virt-install --name cl-test --memory 4096 --vcpus=4 --osinfo ubuntu22.04 --disk path=./cl-test.qcow2 --disk ~/cloudimages/cloudinit-data.iso,device=cdrom --import
[07:42] <Mmike> cl-test-minimal.qcow2 and cl-test.qcow2 are .img files downloaded from https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/jammy/current/
[08:15] <frickler> " When launching the download image from KVM, you will need to specify the virtio network driver. "?
[13:52] <tsimonq2> mirespace: coordination pad> Looks like my browser decided to mangle things >_< looking to see if I can revert, but it's just styling changes.
[13:53] <mirespace> tsimonq2: i see it blocked
[13:53] <mirespace> np
[13:54] <mirespace> tsimonq2: could you sponsor telegraf? it is outside od the server set and i need sponsorship
[13:55] <mirespace> (jasking just in case)
[13:55] <mirespace> s/jas/as/
[13:57] <tsimonq2> mirespace: sure :) have a link handy?
[13:57] <tsimonq2> Ah I see
[13:57] <mirespace> oh, it seems sergiodj is doing it
[13:57] <mirespace> sorry for bother you
[13:59] <tsimonq2> mirespace: No worries :)
[14:00] <tsimonq2> sergiodj: LGTM fwiw ;)
[14:00] <sergiodj> thanks
[14:05] <mirespace> tsimonq2: sergiodj: thank you both :)
[14:05] <tsimonq2> Happy to help :)
[17:42] <mitchdz> Mmike: where are you getting the minimal image? That's image isn't in https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/jammy/current/
[17:42] <mitchdz> also there is a #ubuntu-cloud server that may be more appropriate to have this discussion :)
[20:54] <Mmike> mitchdz, eh, correct, minimal image is here: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/minimal/releases/jammy/release/
[20:55]  * Mmike goes to #ubuntu-cloud :) thnx
[21:18] <mitchdz> I figured it was that link, but just wanted to be sure :)
[21:51] <bryceh> mitchdz, I updated my notes on pmdk in the pad.  Other than disabling more tests I'm not sure what can be done.
[21:53] <mitchdz> bryceh: I'll take a look
[21:54] <mitchdz> yeah I'm not a fan of just disabling tests until it builds
[21:55] <mitchdz> seeing the emojis in the buildlog is kind-of funny to see