[12:56] <rooted> hello ,  is there an ubuntu version for a raspberry pi ?
[12:56] <hrw> rooted: no
[12:56] <hrw> rooted: and will not be
[12:57] <hrw> r/pi has too old cpu
[12:57] <rooted> hrw , no version because an old cpu ?
[12:57] <hrw> yes
[12:58] <rooted> i think there will be new version of raspberry pi , called compute moudule
[12:58] <rooted> so , some arm version can install same packages as the normal ubuntu ?
[12:59] <ogra_> we'll see once that thing is available :)
[12:59] <ogra_> if you want something Pi like that runs ubuntu, get a beaglebone
[12:59] <hrw> rooted: that module is same crap as r/pi
[13:00] <rooted> orga_ ive got one actually and a really love it.
[13:00] <ogra_> or wait for the new Pi and hope someone does the necessary porting
[13:00] <rooted> and now am going for cubieboard
[13:00] <ogra_> hrw, i think there is a v7 Pi planned ...
[13:00]  * ogra_ read about that somewhere
[13:00] <hrw> ogra_: let it rest in pieces
[13:01] <ogra_> Pi-eces
[13:01] <ogra_> :)
[13:01] <rooted> lool
[13:01] <hrw> ;D
[13:01] <hrw> ok, enough of r/pi talk
[13:01] <hrw> my weekly limit will end too soon
[13:01] <ogra_> dev-boards are not really the super hot focus in ubuntu anyway anymore ...
[13:02] <rooted> so raspberry pi , is a crap because it has an old cpu ? i love that you can find every thing for it , such as camera , speaker's , sensors
[13:02] <ogra_> its either server/arm64 or phones (with an android container to use the binary blobs)
[13:03] <lool> rooted: the new module is the same hardware as the current rpi
[13:03] <rooted> well , i loved the ubuntu edge idea, but its a shame the campaign stoped.
[13:03] <lool> rooted: just different form factor
[13:03] <lool> rooted: there wont be an ARMv7 rpi for 6months+ at least
[13:03] <rooted> hmmm
[13:03] <ogra_> well, wait another year and the phones will have the specs the edge was aiming for
[13:03] <lool> rooted: I recommend beaglebone black as an alternative, but it might be hard to get in certain locations
[13:04] <rooted> i know , it was sad  that the campaign stopped , any chance to restart it again ?
[13:04] <rooted> lool ive got one , the rev b and C
[13:04] <rooted> C is on the way actually
[13:04] <hrw> ogra_: so far only ram and storage size is lacking in market phones
[13:05] <lool> rooted: it's technically superior to rpi and can run Ubuntu (but is more expensive)
[13:05] <rooted> lool yeah, $10 extra
[13:05] <hrw> beaglebone black is 45$ iirc
[13:05] <lool> sadly BBB is still hard to get in France
[13:05] <ogra_> hrw, right, and there are already phones with 3G RAM and 64G disk ... so we're getting close
[13:05] <hrw> rooted: what for you use r/pi?
[13:05] <rooted> lool , subscribe to notification service at adafruit.
[13:05] <hrw> if video decoding then consider cubietrack
[13:06] <hrw> if playing with signals then beaglebone
[13:06] <rooted> hrw , am working on an educational project, later to be for a comercial usage , for an OCR system
[13:07] <hrw> rooted: so camera and some storage + cpu speed?
[13:07] <hrw> rooted: cubietrack + usb camera + sata hdd. dualcore cpu onboard
[13:07]  * rooted got angry when he started knowing about ubuntu edge campaign and realized its stopped
[13:07] <rooted> hrw exactly
[13:08] <ogra_> hrw, the RPi is the MSOffice of today :) too many people have it so you dont get around it in some sapces ... i.e. educational fiddling
[13:08] <rooted> hrw , yeah just knew about cubieboard , i was thinking to make a customized case for such idea , with paper dispenser
[13:08] <hrw> ogra_: good thing is that I can ignore r/pi related talks as I do not have to worry about <armv8 now
[13:09] <ogra_> rooted, and electrically driven toilet paper roll ?
[13:09] <rooted> orga_ maybe :p
[13:09] <lool> rooted: I avoided ordering from the US so far, but maybe I need to revisit this
[13:09] <rooted> lool , well the best thing was the notification service.
[15:27] <ndec> hi ogra_ , i came across this old IRC log http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/11/08/%23ubuntu-arm.txt. do you remember the issues you had with using -S with fastboot flash?
[15:27] <ogra_> corrupt partitions after tranfer
[15:27] <ogra_> *trans
[15:28] <ndec> hmm..
[15:28] <ndec> so you aren't using it, right?
[15:28] <ndec> even 2 years later?
[15:28] <ogra_> we dont use much of fastboot at all anymore
[15:29] <ndec> do you remember if it was on some h/w, or possibly any h/w?
[15:29] <ogra_> only for the initial bringup to flash kernel and boot partitions ...
[15:29] <ogra_> err
[15:29] <ogra_> boot and recovery, sorry
[15:29] <ogra_> the rest is ubuntu in ubuntu touch
[15:29] <ogra_> (upgrades run from recovery, not using fastboot at all)
[15:30] <ndec> the initial bring up is what then?
[15:31] <Tassadar> nexus 7 (grouper) had this problem, I don't remember anybody really trying it out on anything else
[15:31] <ogra_> ndec, running ubuntu-device-flash to get the initial install going ... that tool boots into bootloader, flashes boot and recovery, then reboots into recovery and runs the rest of the install from there
[15:32] <ndec> ok.
[15:32] <ogra_> but neither boot not recovery need to be sparse
[15:32] <ndec> yep.
[15:32] <ogra_> so we dont need -S


[00:00] <ripplebit> im relagt5ivelhy6 new gt5o linux, so assumed gt5hy6agt5 igt5 would be like windows in gt5hy6agt5 regt5ard
[00:01] <holstein> ripplebit: assume nothing
[00:02] <ripplebit> ok im gt5egt5gt5ingt5 an error sahy6ingt5 /dev/sda congt5ains gt5pgt5 gpt signitures and i can'[-gt5 close igt5
[00:02] <ripplebit> from archy6 insgt5all
[00:02] <SonikkuAmerica> ripplebit: Now I thy6ink hy6ou'll hy6anve gt5o fix hy6our kehy6board.
[00:02] <holstein> ripplebit: i cant read what you are typing, friend
[00:03] <bazhang> ripplebit, please type normally
[00:03] <GridCube> so many gt5
[00:03]  * SonikkuAmerica beat his youth group leader in a Fiat 500 against a Dale Jr. car in GT5, but that's a story for -offtopic
[00:03] <ripplebit> sorry my laptop keyboard is fucked. im getting a popup warning saying /dev/sda contains GPT signitures (from the arch install) and i can't close or get rid of it.
[00:04] <bazhang> ripplebit, no cursing here please
[00:04] <ripplebit> apologies
[00:05] <ripplebit> i am a connoisseur of the english language
[00:06] <holstein> ripplebit: you are booting a disk instead of the USB
[00:06] <SonikkuAmerica> ripplebit: Not to mention your Arch prob didn't set up a fake MS-DOS partition table.
[00:07] <ripplebit> im usingt5 da usb. and i did sed up a gpt partition on archy6
[00:09] <utusan> is there an image viewer for xcfce?
[00:09] <utusan> xfce*
[00:25] <Kaira-> has anyone here installed 13.04 alongside Win 8 with legacy bios? I try to do it via live-USB but when installing the installation program doesn't detect the windows partition
[00:27] <GridCube> Kaira-, if it doesnt then i would try to do a partition job from windows first, using some good free partition manager, and then reboot to see that there is an empty partition there
[00:28] <GridCube> then i would install xubuntu to that partition and then add the entry for win8 in the grub configs
[00:28] <Kaira-> GridCube: I've shrunk the windows partition so that I have around 70Gb free partition, but when trying to install the program just shows the whole HDD as free partition
[00:29] <GridCube> thats wrong
[00:29] <GridCube> regardless of the OS installed, thats wrong
[00:29] <GridCube> see if another liveISO says the same
[00:30] <Kaira-> alright, I'll try some other ISOs as soon as I can just download 'em
[00:55] <tigrang> If I enable "Disable touchpad while typing" it takes about 2 seconds for the touchpad to become usable again after typing. Can I decrease this delay?
[00:55] <holstein> tigrang: no
[00:56] <holstein> tigrang: AFAIK, that will be depending on your hardware
[00:59] <tigrang> holstein, thanks, that at least lead me to the correct place, I see where it is set syndaemon -i 2.0, just need to figure where thats configured now
[01:00] <tigrang> ^ thats a running process
[01:01] <GridCube> unless you use synaptics
[01:01] <GridCube> !info synaptics
[01:01] <GridCube> wait
[01:02] <GridCube> !search synaptics
[01:02] <GridCube> !synaptics
[01:04] <GridCube> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Disable_Trackpad_while_Typing
[01:07] <tigrang> was going to try running syndaemon in startup applications my own config values, I'll try ~/.xinitrc like that says
[01:07] <tigrang> logging/out in
[01:18] <tigrang> I unchcked Disable touchpad while typing and used Startup Applications to add syndaemon -i 0.5 which worked
[01:19] <tigrang> 2 seconds is way too long, sucks its default and no gui config for it, oh well, thanks guys
[02:48] <ThOr101> Yeah, freeNX and nomachine don't really work as I'd expect them to.
[02:49] <ThOr101> It looked like a good option, but in the end, not so much.
[02:49] <holstein> well, then you have no option
[02:49] <holstein> vnc is *much* slower
[02:49] <holstein> forwarding X might work
[02:49] <ThOr101> Yeah, it is.  I can't believe I'm running into original errors though.
[02:49] <Unit193> FreeNX seemes nice, but no been committed to in a while.  VNC will be faster than forwarded X.
[02:50] <holstein> thinlinc was actually quite nice, an easy to setup
[02:50] <ThOr101> Ya know, I actually didn't try that one yet.
[02:51] <ThOr101> The issue I'm running into is that I'm deploying this into the AWS cloud
[02:51] <ThOr101> and all these systems assume that X is running, and it won't since there is no video subsystem with which to configure a "screen"
[02:51] <holstein> ThOr101: i wouldnt do any of these not on my local an
[02:52] <holstein> ThOr101: i have thinlinc running without X on the server
[02:52] <holstein> i installed XFCE4
[02:52] <ThOr101> Yeah, that's what I was hoping for.
[02:52] <xubuntu803> Just got xubuntu, its amazing
[02:52] <holstein> ThOr101: i dont remember testing it that way in the others
[02:53] <holstein> vnc is out, AFAIK
[02:53] <holstein> you would need to be running a desktop to remote into it
[02:53] <ThOr101> The new nomachine stuff (4 beta) actually looks pretty slick.  Doesn't work, the documentation is atrocious, but the program looks slick.
[02:53] <Unit193> I think tightvncserver was the one that started it's own X.
[02:54] <ThOr101> vnc4 (or something like that) did too.
[02:54] <xubuntu803> Just got xubuntu, its really treading me well so far.
[02:54] <ThOr101> It wasn't until I started the vncserver (which I guess made a fake X system) did the nomachine work.
[02:54] <holstein> xubuntu803: congrats
[02:54] <Unit193> holstein: vnc over SSH is secure though, otherwise I agree with you as LAN only.
[02:54] <ThOr101> Oh, yeah, I've been doing it over SSH.
[02:55] <ThOr101> To the AWS cloud, it really wasn't too bad.
[02:55] <ThOr101> Then again, the east coast AWS cloud is a few miles up the street, so YMMV
[02:55] <Unit193> Hah, awesome.
[02:56] <ThOr101> I haven't done a traceroute, but I bet it gets routed through New York, Copenhagen and Brazil, just because that's how things seem to be peered these days.
[08:02] <HypothesisFrog> Hi. I started a transfer across two computers via samba a couple of days ago, using Thunar file manager. I canceled. It still appears to be in the process of cancelling, two days later.
[08:38] <well_laid_lawn> HypothesisFrog:  where does it show up?
[08:38] <well_laid_lawn> in a thunbar dialog window?
[08:38] <well_laid_lawn> s/nb/n/
[08:41] <HypothesisFrog> well_laid_lawn well in a dialog window. I did click the [x] to make it go away, but all that does is minimize it to the notification area.
[08:43] <HypothesisFrog> is it an xfce desktop error? Or a screw up with samba?
[08:43] <well_laid_lawn> HypothesisFrog:  I'd check in top to see if there's something there and if not   pkill thunar
[08:45] <HypothesisFrog> well_laid_lawn well there is something there. The reason I cancelled the process originally, is because it stalled. I then transfered the files by sftp instead, and that worked. Didn't realise that Thunar was still cancelling anyway.
[08:46] <well_laid_lawn> try the pkill and see if the dialog window goes
[08:46] <well_laid_lawn> it musn't be doing anything after all this time
[08:46] <HypothesisFrog> ps ax |grep thunar yields no results. weird. How do I kill it?
[08:47] <HypothesisFrog> ah, it's capital T
[08:47] <well_laid_lawn> grep -i   is handy at times
[08:56] <berryciderspider> guys i've just got a new desktop (Radeon 7750, AMD FX), didn't come with an os so i installed ubuntu, tried to run TF2 and im getting glitched output (semi repeating sound, really laggy graphics. I assume this is due to the graphics card (driver issue)?, although im not certain. The pc came with an amd driver, but it seems to be for windows (exe). What are you thoughts?
[08:57] <JohnRobe1t> could be soundcard
[08:59] <berryciderspider> JohnRobe1t: would that cause the screen to lag?
[08:59] <JohnRobert> could do I guess
[08:59] <JohnRobert> could be a number of things
[09:01] <well_laid_lawn> !ati
[09:01] <well_laid_lawn> berryciderspider:  ↑
[09:03] <berryciderspider> thanks guys
[09:04] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[09:52] <ERROR_> Can Xubuntu be installed from windows?
[09:53] <baizon> ERROR_: you can put it on a USB driver or cd, then boot from it
[09:53] <ERROR_> I tried from a usb drive, and it isn't working
[09:53] <ERROR_> My bios won;t recognize it
[09:53] <baizon> ERROR_: how did you do it?
[09:54] <baizon> i recommend the LinuxLive USB Creator
[09:54] <baizon> never had problems with it
[09:54] <ERROR_> I used Universal USB Installer
[09:55] <baizon> ERROR_: please try again using the tool ive posted
[09:55] <ERROR_> Ok. brb
[09:58] <ERROR_> It says that this linux is not on the compatibility list
[10:00] <baizon> i don't understand
[10:00] <baizon> you're trying to install xubuntu?
[10:00] <ERROR_> yes
[10:00] <baizon> you don't have to download it
[10:00] <baizon> you can also chose a iso that you already have downloaded
[10:01] <ERROR_> I downloaded the iso from this website prior
[10:03] <ERROR_> Now lili isn't opening for me
[10:04] <baizon> step 1 was without errors?
[10:06] <ERROR_> yes
[10:06] <ERROR_> I'm reinstalling lili
[10:06] <baizon> ok
[10:07] <ERROR_> I'm just going to redownload
[10:08] <ERROR_> Could it be because it's the amd 64 version?
[10:11] <baizon> not really
[10:11] <baizon> i got 64 too and everything works fine
[10:13] <ERROR_> ok. The iso is redownloading now.
[10:35] <killer> hey
[10:35] <killer> gma 3600 chipset , is it supported yet?
[10:44] <baizon> killer: solution http://ubuntuatom.blogopogo.com/tag/gma-3600-driver-linux/
[11:00] <bogu> hello
[11:00] <bogu> I am installing xubuntu and it says best results are achieved being connected to the internet during install
[11:00] <bogu> the laptop should be connected, but it says it isn't
[11:00] <bogu> any way to connect to a network during install, since it doesn't automatically?
[11:01] <well_laid_lawn> are you using wifi or ethernet ?
[11:01] <bogu> wifi
[11:02] <well_laid_lawn> have you opened the network settings icon at the top right and set it up ?
[11:02] <bogu> I saw it pop up at the start but I didn't think I would need it; I can't see it now, how could I access it?
[11:02] <well_laid_lawn> is there a network icon at the top right of the screen ?
[11:03] <baizon> bogu: in the starting menu entry go to "try ..." not install
[11:03] <baizon> then you'll get a fully xubuntu desktop where you can configure your wifi
[11:03] <bogu> OK, thanks
[11:03] <baizon> then hit the install icon
[11:03] <baizon> and you will have internet connectivity
[11:03] <well_laid_lawn> I keep forgetting about that
[11:10] <nikolam> I like more NOT having internet connection during install. That way it has more chance of actually finishing install like it is tested before release.
[11:10] <nikolam> After that I update, and if you are lucky to install on BTRFS root, then previous configuration before update will be there.
[11:11] <bogu> I am a real beginner, so I'm afraid I'll have to do something complicated after the install or I'm missing out
[11:11] <nikolam> don't worry bogu it will propmpt you automatically for updates, once you get online after installing.
[11:12] <nikolam> help.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums are your friends :P
[11:13] <baizon> bogu: nothing will happen without internet connectivity. Don't worry :)
[12:36] <xubuntu258> How i put Xubuntu.iso? CD or DVD?
[12:37] <knome> xubuntu258, if it's 13.04, you'll need to use a DVD or a USB device
[12:37] <knome> xubuntu258, older ones will fit in standard CD's; this is in the release notes
[12:38] <xubuntu258> i put it on DVD, mofied Boot start and not work
[12:39] <xubuntu258> modified*
[12:40] <knome> ok.
[12:40]  * knome continues working on other things.
[14:00] <seriously_random> how to participate @ https://friendly.ubuntu.com/participate/
[14:27] <knome> seriously_random, follow the 7 steps mentioned on the website.
[17:00] <jimmyjam> anyone know how to install drivers for my HD 7750?
[17:05] <TheSheep> jimmyjam: intel?
[17:05] <jimmyjam> amd FX4100
[18:26] <xubuntu968> hello, i feel very sorry for asking this stupid question and i must ask you to excuse me for taking your time. I skipped the wifi connection stage in the installation interface o xubuntu, and i know see myself unable to find a way to connect myself to a wifi conenction. the network parameters only allow me to create a network and do not show me which are the wifi available connections. is there something i am missing?
[18:32] <xubuntu968> noone?
[18:46] <GridCube> xubuntu968, it should autoconnect
[18:46] <GridCube> xubuntu968, see that you have wifi enabled on your keyboard thingy
[18:46] <xubuntu968> i don't have any keybord touch, it is a macbook
[18:46] <GridCube> fn-[wifi icon] usually enables wifi
[18:47] <GridCube> or maybe theres a switch somewhere that turns the wifi on
[18:48] <xubuntu968> there is no mechanical mechanism on macbook pros to turn on/off wifi... i guess it is supposed to be systematically activated
[18:48] <GridCube> mmm
[18:49] <GridCube> near the sound icon you should have a network icon, there you should see if the wifi can be enabled
[18:50] <xubuntu968> well thats the problem
[18:50] <xubuntu968> it only shows "ethernet network disconnected" and proposes to modify it
[18:51] <xubuntu968> (+activate desactivate and create a vpn connection)
[18:53] <brainwash> xubuntu968: maybe some special firmware/driver is required for your wifi module to operate properly, can you provide some more details about your macbook?
[18:53] <GridCube> xubuntu968, try this on a terminal: nmcli nm wifi on
[18:54] <xubuntu968> its a macbook pro 13p.
[18:54] <xubuntu968> gridcube: i just did
[18:54] <GridCube> what does it says?
[18:54] <xubuntu968> nothing
[18:54] <GridCube> and wifi still no ON?
[18:55] <xubuntu968> yes..
[18:55] <xubuntu968> (i guess because it doesn't show anywhere, nor activated nor unactivated...)
[18:55] <GridCube> i've found that to be a bug in my case where after dissabling wifi i need to reboot to get the wifi on again
[18:56] <xubuntu968> after the command line you mean?
[18:56] <GridCube> xubuntu968, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1970227&p=11895284#post11895284
[18:57] <GridCube> see that
[18:58] <xubuntu968> the problem is that these instructions need an internet connexion to be executed...
[18:59] <GridCube> cable it?
[19:04] <xubuntu968> one sec
[19:06] <xubuntu968> not working
[19:06] <xubuntu968> ...
[19:09] <xubuntu968> this is specially weird since in my install interface it did found wifi networks and proposed to connect, i just accidentaly skiped this phase
[19:11] <xubuntu968> HA I found the solution _
[19:11] <xubuntu968> had to go to parameters, sofware and updates, then "additional drivers" and acivate the corresponding driver.
[19:12] <xubuntu968> thank you for your help, sorry for the mess
[20:40] <xubuntu527> hello i am a  user facing a problem of installation. the install goes perfectly but when it has to reboot, the computer goes directly to macOS without asking if to choose mac or xubuntu
[20:41] <SonikkuAmerica> xubuntu527: Hit the Option key when it boots up.
[20:41] <xubuntu527> it only proposes me to go on my #mac os drive# or to the EFI if i have left the usb installer
[20:42] <SonikkuAmerica> Head for the EFI then. (You *did* use an amd64+mac image, right?)
[20:43] <xubuntu527> yes. well when i go there they propose me to reinstall or delete or delete plus reinstall xubuntu again..
[20:43] <xubuntu527> or to run it without installing it, which is what ive just did.
[20:44] <Sysi> when I installed xubuntu on mac I got to xubuntu without asking, I had to press opt to be able to select os x
[20:44] <Sysi> you might want to ask #ubuntu
[20:45] <Sysi> oh right, shut down instead of rebooting
[20:45] <xubuntu527> i installed it on both macs at the same time. one is running perfectly (except driver problems) and asks me at every boot to choose between ubuntu or macos. not the other
[21:17] <xubuntu580> hi
[21:17] <xubuntu580> i have problems at install LAMP in my pc
[21:18] <xubuntu580> Can you help me?
[23:47] <Golfgeo> Hi guy's, got a grub problem... Eventhough I've held down the [shift] key during boot I cannot see any boot options to select... Trying to use an older kernel I have installed... Unsure about the /etc/default/grub options I should change to force a timeout and and menu showing
[23:59] <krytarik> Golfgeo: Can you please post your current config on a pastebin?


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[10:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2026 Dependency wait (xenial/unity8, yakkety/unity8). Failed to build (vivid/qmenumodel, xenial/qmenumodel, yakkety/qmenumodel). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/qtubuntu). Successfully built (vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/unity8, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/qtubuntu-gles)
[10:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2026 Preparing packages
[10:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2026 Dependency wait (xenial/unity8, yakkety/unity8). Failed to build (vivid/qmenumodel, xenial/qmenumodel, yakkety/qmenumodel). Failed to upload (vivid/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/qtubuntu). Successfully built (vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/unity8, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/qtubuntu-gles). Uploading build (xenial/qtubuntu)
[11:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2026 Dependency wait (xenial/unity8, yakkety/unity8). Failed to build (vivid/qmenumodel, xenial/qmenumodel, yakkety/qmenumodel). Failed to upload (vivid/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/qtubuntu). Successfully built (vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/unity8, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/qtubuntu-gles)
[11:13] <sil2100> jibel: hey! You remember the .profile environment update that we were doing in ubuntu-touch-session that we decided to drop? There was that comment that it's required by autopilot
[11:13] <sil2100> jibel: but you guys looked into that and didn't see any reason for that to be there
[11:14] <sil2100> jibel: it seems that it was really somehow needed by autopilot, eh
[11:14] <sil2100> jibel: who's the current autopilot maintainer?
[11:15] <jibel> sil2100, omer or rhuddie can help
[11:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2055 Preparing packages
[11:18] <rhuddie> sil2100, have you got some more detail on the above issue?
[11:21] <sil2100> rhuddie: hey! Let me poke you with some details once I get some logs, since maybe it's not autopilot at fault but maybe tests having wrong assumptions
[11:21] <rhuddie> sil2100, sure, let me know
[11:21] <sil2100> rhuddie: but in short: we had a hack in the session that would write down env variables to .profile (like XDG_DATA_DIRS etc.), so that it got picked up through adb for, as the comment said, "autopilot's benefit"
[11:22] <sil2100> rhuddie: and once we removed that hack as it didn't seem necessary, oSoMoN reported that suddenly webbrowser tests started failing
[11:23] <rhuddie> sil2100, right, I see. I'll have a check also.
[11:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2055 Currently building (yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Pending binary packages (xenial/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/qtdeclarative-opensource-src, xenial/qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, yakkety/qtdeclarative-opensource-src, yakkety/qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, yakkety/unity8)
[12:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2055 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Successfully built (xenial/qtdeclarative-opensource-src, xenial/qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/unity8, yakkety/qtdeclarative-opensource-src, yakkety/qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, yakkety/unity8)
[12:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2059 Preparing packages
[12:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Cimi, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2050 Preparing packages
[13:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2059 Ready to build
[13:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2055 Currently building (xenial/qtmir, yakkety/qtmir). Diff missing (xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/qtmir-gles, yakkety/qtubuntu, yakkety/qtubuntu-gles). Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Pending binary packages (xenial/qtubuntu). Successfully built (xenial/qtdeclarative-opensource-src, xenial/qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-tool
[13:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2055 Preparing packages
[13:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Cimi, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2050 Failed to build (xenial/unity8, yakkety/unity8). Successfully built (vivid/unity8)
[13:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1924 Abandoning ticket
[14:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2060 Needs building
[14:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2055 Currently building (yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Successfully built (xenial/qtdeclarative-opensource-src, xenial/qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/unity8, xenial/webbrowser-app, yakkety/qtdeclarative-
[14:32] <mzanetti> sil2100, hey, about that arm64 build issue
[14:32] <mzanetti> sil2100, what happens now? I can't lander-approve a silo because it thinkgs it failed to build
[14:32] <sil2100> mzanetti: hey!
[14:36] <sil2100> mzanetti: hm, that's a good question, I would need to get some info from Mirv if he consulted anyone about this
[14:36] <sil2100> Mirv: hey! Regarding the big curse of: LP: #1630906
[14:37] <sil2100> Mirv: did you poke slangasek or infinity about this? Shouldn't anyone using QML be affected, so a lot of projects?
[14:37] <sil2100> To me this is a critical issue that would really need some attention
[14:38] <mzanetti> sil2100, yeah, afaict, pretty much all apps are affected too
[14:38] <mzanetti> I would know how to workaround it for unity, but that can't be the answer IMO
[14:39] <sil2100> Mirv: oh, UITK I see succeeded in a no-change rebuild in your PPA on yakkety
[14:39] <sil2100> Was that just a flaky test?
[14:39] <sil2100> mzanetti: yeah... I'm reluctant to release a package that fails to build on arm64 because of this, but waiting for a solution infinitely is also pointless
[14:39] <sil2100> The US is off now so not much we can do today sadly
[14:40] <mzanetti> meh... I've been fighting for weeks to get that silo in a releasable state :D
[14:40] <mzanetti> and now I'm finally done and this happens :D oh well, life :)
[14:40] <sil2100> ;/
[14:40] <mzanetti> well, noone to blame really... just tough luck :D
[14:41] <mzanetti> sil2100, anyways, if you get any update on the situation, please let me know how to proceed
[14:41] <sil2100> We need to blame the kernel team, since it's them introducing CONFIG_ARM64_VA_BITS=48 seemed to cause this issue
[14:42] <Mirv> sil2100: mzanetti: I poked do_ko and cj_watson and #ubuntu-kernel but none of them has volunteered to play part of solving it - that means mostly I think that launchpad builders are not wanted to be downgraded, and from kernel team I have not gotten any answer
[14:43] <sil2100> Mirv: yeah, I would be more willing to push on getting the flag switched off again, checking the rationale behind enabling it
[14:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2061 Dependency wait
[14:44] <sil2100> IMO it should not be allowed to do such a change when it's obviously causing a regression in this many projects
[14:44] <Mirv> sil2100: if you can ping the mentioned i and s guys, thank you. I've updated the bug as we go but the upstream Qt change seems not trouble free and won't help yakkety as probably not even SRUable
[14:44] <mzanetti> well, yes, it should be reverted until we make it work again, IMHO
[14:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1924 Currently building (xenial/account-polld-plugins-go, yakkety/account-polld-plugins-go). Failed to build (vivid/account-polld-plugins-go). Pending binary packages (vivid/account-polld, xenial/account-polld). Successfully built (yakkety/account-polld)
[15:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1924 Failed to build (vivid/account-polld-plugins-go, xenial/account-polld-plugins-go). Successfully built (vivid/account-polld, xenial/account-polld, yakkety/account-polld, yakkety/account-polld-plugins-go)
[15:24] <cjwatson> Mirv: I'm mostly just extremely wary of downgrading the builders to wily
[15:24] <cjwatson> Mirv: Since e.g. who knows what security holes it has at this point
[15:25] <cjwatson> Mirv: If the kernel team thinks that switching off that flag is a reasonable thing to do and can supply a suitable build, I'd be happy to facilitate that on our side
[16:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Dependency wait (yakkety/indicator-power, yakkety/indicator-sound). Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/indicator-session). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/indicator-bluetooth, yakkety/indicator-display, yakkety/indicator-network). Pending binary packages (yakkety/libindicator). Successfully built (yakkety/hud, yakkety/indicator-application, yakk
[16:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2061 Successfully built
[17:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2060 Failed to build
[17:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2061 Publishing packages
[17:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2061 UNAPPROVED queue
[18:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1875 QA Signoff: Ready
[20:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Dependency wait (yakkety/indicator-power, yakkety/indicator-sound). Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/indicator-keyboard, yakkety/indicator-session). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/indicator-bluetooth, yakkety/indicator-display, yakkety/indicator-network). Pending binary packages (yakkety/libindicator). Successfully built (yakkety/hud, yakkety
[20:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2061 Proposed pocket
[21:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2061 Release pocket
[21:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Dependency wait (yakkety/indicator-power, yakkety/indicator-sound). Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/indicator-session). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/indicator-bluetooth, yakkety/indicator-display, yakkety/indicator-keyboard, yakkety/indicator-network). Pending binary packages (yakkety/libindicator). Successfully built (yakkety/hud, yakkety


[00:56] <robert_ancell> RAOF, could I bug you to get bug 1304866 out of the SRU queue?
[00:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1304866 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu Trusty) "Notice of expiring password in greeter not really visible" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1304866
[00:56] <robert_ancell> Also, how does verification work if you have one bug SRUing for two releases?
[00:58] <RAOF> robert_ancell: You tag verification-succeded-precise, verification-succeeded-trusty.
[00:58] <robert_ancell> nice
[00:58] <robert_ancell> clever system
[01:15] <robert_ancell> RAOF, thanks!
[07:00] <mlankhorst> morning
[07:00] <mlankhorst> xnox: goodie
[07:01] <mlankhorst> xnox: but caveats apply :P
[07:04] <mlankhorst> xnox: I've done the programming but it really takes many different layouts for testing :p
[08:04] <Laney> morning!
[08:04] <darkxst> hey Laney!
[08:06] <Laney> hey darkxst, wie gehts?
[08:29] <Laney> desrt / larsu: yo, could one of you comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1305016 please? since you've been looking into this business
[08:29] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1305016 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "Windows have only borders if __GTK_FRAME_EXTENTS is not supported by WM" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[08:30] <darkxst> Laney, a little cold here! bush camping in a house without a heater, a tent would be warmer ;)
[08:30] <Laney> start some heavy compiles on your computer :P
[08:47] <mhr3> larsu, ping?
[08:47] <mhr3> larsu, if you're working - https://code.launchpad.net/~mhr3/gsettings-qt/fix-wrong-unref/+merge/217891
[08:48] <darkxst> Laney, that won't work with these silly power efficient computers these days! If only I still had my Pentium 4 toaster!
[08:52] <darkxst> pitti, ping
[08:54] <Laney> I think he'll be off today for the holiday
[08:55] <darkxst> Laney, ah ok
[08:56]  * darkxst needs more holidays now, kinda got too used to doing nothing but climbing for 10 days ;)
[09:15] <mlankhorst> oh right seb128 doesn't work today
[09:16] <Laney> slackers*
[09:16] <mlankhorst> communists :D
[09:16] <Laney> *I'm going to be slacking monday and tuesday
[09:22] <mlankhorst> bleh anyone else i can use as victim for debugging touch? :P
[09:25] <mlankhorst> just needs a touch screen and xorg-server from the ppa
[09:25] <Laney> not me
[09:25] <Laney> tkamppeter was interested in that stuff i think, maybe ask/email him
[09:25] <larsu> mhr3: I'm not (it's a holiday and I'm at the gtk hackfest). Approved anyway ;)
[09:25] <larsu> mhr3: thanks
[09:26] <larsu> Laney: we've been meaning to talk to mclasen about that
[09:26] <mhr3> larsu, cheers! and enjoy hackfest
[09:26] <larsu> thanks!
[09:27] <mlankhorst> yeah it helps to have people here though, I lack the hw :P
[09:36] <tkamppeter> mlankhorst, Laney, I can do a test for you, if it does not mess up my system (easy way to get back from xorg-server from PPA to normal). Not sure whether today or tomorrow.
[09:38] <mlankhorst> oh what about right now? :P
[09:48] <Laney> larsu: yeah I know, I was just hoping you could respond to that report
[09:49] <Laney> it's got a patch in the queue for sponsoring you see
[09:50] <larsu> Laney: I already talked to the submitter on irc a while back
[09:50] <larsu> but yeah, I'll respond as soon as I know more
[09:50] <Laney> cheers
[10:46] <Laney> darkxst: bug #1300464 confuses me
[10:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1300464 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] Ubuntu GNOME Trusty Slides Update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1300464
[10:46] <Laney> what is it asking for?
[10:46] <darkxst> Laney, that was supposed to land pre 14.04 release
[10:46] <Laney> yes
[10:46] <darkxst> it didnt ;(
[10:46] <Laney> but you can SRU it for .1 I guess
[10:46] <Laney> is it your linked branch?
[10:47] <darkxst> Laney, yeh
[10:47] <Laney> ok
[10:49] <Laney> xnox: will there be a slideshow upload before .1?
[10:51] <darkxst> Laney, there kind of needs to be ;) I was offline the last few weeks, no need to let that linger on!
[10:51] <Laney> I mean another one
[10:51] <Laney> in other words do I upload it now or not
[10:52] <darkxst> Laney, are there even trusty .1 daily images?
[10:53] <darkxst> Laney, I would think pushing to the bzr branch would be fine
[10:54] <Laney> Not yet, but there will be
[10:56] <xnox> Laney: yes there will be, but we should sru that sooner, rather than later.
[10:56] <Laney> darkxst: we'll need SRU info
[10:57] <Laney> this discarding translations thing takes a while
[10:57] <darkxst> Laney, what do you mean? its only the screenshot images that changed
[10:58] <Laney> [ QA ] Look at the slideshow and check the new images are used
[10:58] <Laney> :)
[10:58] <darkxst> images are not translatable though!
[10:59] <Laney> oh I see
[10:59] <Laney> I thought you were responding to my SRU info line
[11:00] <Laney> this is part of the build process of the package apparently
[11:02] <darkxst> Laney, just for you, updated;
[11:03] <darkxst> [Regression Potentional]
[11:03] <darkxst> None, We are regressing here by showing old screenshots, these were meant to land before 14.04 released. But now it is paramount these are updated for 14.04.1 release!
[11:03] <Laney> ty
[11:05] <darkxst> Laney, xnox, and I am happy for them just to be committed into the bzr branch, for the time being
[11:07]  * xnox why do i always think about sci-fi movies whenever anyone says "paramount" =)
[11:10] <Laney> oh noes, I can't push there!
[11:10] <mlankhorst> or can't you?
[11:11] <Laney> xnox: lp:~laney/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/xnox-help-me help me please
[11:12] <xnox> hm?
[11:13] <xnox> oh, i've merged it locally already.
[11:13] <Laney> I'm not in ~ubiquity-slideshow
[11:13] <Laney> umm okay, I was clearly looking at it but good ...
[11:14] <xnox> I'm not sure if we have trusty stable branch yet.
[11:14] <xnox> i'll upload that into utopic though
[11:15] <xnox>  Laney, do you want to be in the ubuntu-installer team?
[11:15]  * darkxst sleeps now! night all
[11:15] <xnox> that's how i get the rights to ubiquity-slideshow
[11:17] <Laney> if you want
[11:17] <Laney> i'm not sure dylan is active any more
[11:17] <Laney> hmm he does have some recent karma though
[11:44] <tkamppeter> mlankhorst, please tell me what to test and which PPA and also how to get back to normal afterwards.
[11:47] <mlankhorst> ppa:canonical-x/x-staging use 2:1.15.1-0ubuntu2.1~ppa2, just try to break things by using the touchscreen :P
[12:25] <tkamppeter> mlankhorst, thanks. Will install it and if I see something broken in the next days I tell you.
[12:26] <tkamppeter> mlankhorst, is this for Utopic?
[12:28] <mlankhorst> trusty
[12:28] <mlankhorst> i guess it works on utopic too if you downgrade xserver-xorg-core and xserver-xorg-core-dbg directly
[18:16] <mterry> mlankhorst, heyo!  Do you have any objection to me uploading a change to failsafe-x.conf that changes the start on condition from "lightdm EXIT_STATUS=[!0]" to "lightdm RESULT=failed" ? (and same for gdm there)
[18:23] <mterry> mlankhorst, also it seems like there is a git branch for xdiagnose not mentioned in debian/control?
[22:20] <mlankhorst> mterry: hm dno? is it for utopic
[22:21] <mlankhorst> if you upload for utopic can you re-enable the intel hang thing too?
[22:23] <mterry> mlankhorst, yeah for utopic
[22:23] <mlankhorst> basically undoing the diff for last xdiagnose upload
[22:24] <mterry> mlankhorst, I'm not familiar with the intel hang thing
[22:25] <mlankhorst> mterry: uncomment the line in debian/xdiagnose.udev
[22:25] <mterry> mlankhorst, I just see rebuilds and apport hook finagling
[22:25] <mterry> mlankhorst, OK
[22:27] <mterry> mlankhorst, oh right.. but the git tree isn't in my source dir and I get a whole bunch of git nonsense in my debdiff -- a) that probs shouldn't be in the package and b) should I update git?
[22:28] <mlankhorst> erm just remove the .git stuff, it was uploaded by accident
[22:28] <mterry> mlankhorst, here's the diff: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7376016/
[22:28] <mlankhorst> and it's a git-bzr thing :P