[11:57] <DJJeff> there is about 25 of them all about 14MB each
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> DJJeff: you most likely had a crash and that is the dump
[11:57] <DJJeff> ok
[11:57] <tim167> vigo: SOLVED: i had to turn OFF desktop effects, now it works :)
[11:57] <DJJeff> safe to delete?
[11:57] <vigo> tim167: That is the version. I think, uname -r and stuff in terminal give the kernel version and such.
[11:57] <jrib> DJJeff: if you don't want to debug, sure
[11:58] <vigo> Sweee!
[11:58] <vigo> *t
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> DJJeff: i'd create a folder and move them to it, if the system is ok for after a few hours (try a reboot too) then you can delete the folder
[11:58] <vigo> tim167: I only know about Orca ans stuff because my vision is poor.
[11:59] <CptnAwesome> !codecs
[12:00] <tim167> vigo, ah ok, i just want to use it for presentations, thanks a lot for the tip!
[12:00] <vigo> My pleasure, and quite welcome.
[12:01] <kvdb> while using eclipse, it seems that ubuntu/gnome/... has stolen the F2, F3 and more function keys that I need in eclipse. How can i disable these mappings in ubuntu?
[12:01] <erUSUL> DJJeff: they are coredumps of apps that crashed
[12:01] <erUSUL> DJJeff: usefull for debugging
[12:03] <soreau> kvdb: Are yuo using desktop effects?
[12:03] <kvdb> soreau, think so, default jaunty
[12:03] <soreau> kvdb: Male sure ccsm>Gnome Compatibility is enabled
[12:04] <kvdb> soreau, i tried looking for 'F2' in gconf-editor, but seems that no apps uses it, or at least have a configurable key mapping
[12:04] <soreau> Make*
[12:04] <kvdb> soreau, ccsm?
[12:04] <mifritscher> hi
[12:05] <mifritscher> is there any recent kernel for ubuntu with openvz?
[12:05] <soreau> kvdb: Just try temporarily turning off effects in gnome-appearance-properties to see if it fixes it
[12:05] <Chris1> Moin
[12:05] <mifritscher> I can't use debian ones because it seems that they handle crypted partitions differntly
[12:05] <Chris1> Kann hier werd deutsch und mir eben helfen ?
[12:06] <mifritscher> and the 8.04 ones can't handle ym wlan nor ext4...
[12:06] <Myrtti> !de | Chris1
[12:06] <seif_> he salut
[12:06] <seif_> j'ai besoin d'aide
[12:06] <Myrtti> !fr | seif_
[12:06] <luist> hey can anyone help me to turn on compiz effects? they are not working!!
[12:06] <Chris1> Hab nen kleines Problem mit meiner xconfig -.-
[12:06] <kvdb> soreau, unfortunately, that doesn't help.
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> luist: have you installed video drivers?
[12:07] <soreau> ! compiz | luist
[12:07] <luist> ActionParsnip: i installed ATI graphics card driver
[12:07] <soreau> kvdb: Sorry, that was my only idea
[12:07] <kvdb> soreau, you think the window manager was interfering?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> luist: ok then in terminal run: compiz --replace
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> luist: the output should help
[12:07] <mifritscher> ! openvz | mifritscher
[12:07] <Chris1> hmm keiner da ?
[12:07] <soreau> kvdb: It is possible but apparently not in your case
[12:08] <mifritscher> Chris1: go to #ubuntu-de ^^
[12:08] <Chris1> thx ^
[12:08] <kvdb> soreau, ok. thanks for your suggestions.
[12:08] <uriol> hi
[12:09] <uriol> i have problems with firefox
[12:09] <shaullx1> ActionParsnip its all working now thanks:)
[12:09] <uriol> it didn't start+ç
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> shaullx: good lad :D wtg
[12:09] <uriol> it says its starting
[12:09] <uriol> but didn't start
[12:10] <luist> ActionParsnip: output: http://pastie.org/618610
[12:10] <mifritscher> uriol: try to start it from a terminal
[12:10] <uriol> typing firefox there ?
[12:10] <mifritscher> yes
[12:10] <soreau> luist: You need to turn off compositing for metacity
[12:11] <uriol> Could not find compatible GRE between version <IP_ADDRESS> and 1.9.0.*.
[12:11] <uriol> it says this
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> luist: your drivers are not enabled from what i can see. i'd ask in #compiz
[12:11] <olinuxx> yep'
[12:11] <luist> soreau how do i do that :)
[12:11] <soreau> ActionParsnip: No, he needs to disable metacity compositing
[12:11] <soreau> luist: One moment and I will give you a command to do it
[12:11] <luist> soreau: ok
[12:11] <mifritscher> uriol: did you half-upgraded?
[12:12] <uriol> mi don't remember
[12:12] <uriol> maybe
[12:12] <mifritscher> wah...
[12:12] <mifritscher> then try update-manager
[12:15] <soreau> luist: gconftool-2 --type bool --set /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager false
[12:16] <Guest29496> I was mounting ntfs partition on ubuntu, then one folder had disappeared, I try too many of tools but no one work I think the folder didn't deleted  Note: I try to boot from windows but also I can't find it
[12:17] <grawity> Guest29496: Have you tried running chkdsk from Windows?
[12:17] <Guest29496> grawity, no
[12:18] <Guest29496> you think it may help
[12:22] <Neep> Hey, Somone there know, if this ubuntu-8.04.1-dell-reinstall.iso (http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_8.04) work on an Acer Netbook?
[12:22] <soreau> luist: Did that work for you?
[12:22] <Neep> When its make to a Dell?
[12:23] <eevar2> any config file where I can set/change sudo's default path?
[12:23] <thayor> some movies are not playing in my system
[12:23] <comicinker> how do I set the standard file permissions when I create a file? now it is: rwxr-xr-x  but I want rwxrwx---
[12:24] <sebastian01> wer spricht hier deutsh?
[12:24] <dank> anyone have any idea why all of unisons output goes to stderr?
[12:24] <eevar2> sebastian01: #ubuntu.de
[12:24] <comicinker> sebastian01: geh in #ubuntu-de
[12:24] <soreau> comicinker: man chmod
[12:24] <luist> soreau: had to relog...
[12:24] <sebastian01> im hungary
[12:24] <Neep> pxw8
[12:24] <Neep> mifritscher
[12:25] <soreau> luist: Did you get my message?
[12:25] <eevar2> comicinker: man umask
[12:25] <eevar2> or google for it ;)
[12:25] <luist> soreau: it worked thanks a lot :)
[12:25] <WebUser> fghfhf
[12:26] <soreau> luist: Great, glad to hear it :)
[12:26] <erUSUL> comicinker: define your own umask in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile
[12:26] <luist> soreau: will this still work if i restart?
[12:26] <soreau> luist: Yes
[12:27] <soreau> luist: You should set visual effects to anything other than None in gnome-appearance-properties though
[12:27] <comicinker> thanks. man umask is not available
[12:27] <dank> i'm using "timeout 300 2>/dev/null unison $path". I only want to redirect the output of the timeout command. it's redirecting everything, and unison is putting everything to stderr, so i don't get anything to the screen
[12:27] <deejaydblock> is there anyway i can downgrade to a lightweight version of ubuntu (with only needed apps installed?)
[12:27] <WebUser> hi
[12:28] <Araneidae> deejaydblock, I've wondered that.  The obvious start is to uninstall evertyhing in sight...
[12:28] <Araneidae> the alternative might be to start with Debian instead?
[12:28] <sebastian01> i have problem
[12:29] <dank> yeah, probably use debian, and just install what you need
[12:29] <blue42> exit
[12:29] <ndrwc> deejaydblock, try installing a lightweight wm like xfce and removing gnome etc.
[12:30] <deejaydblock> wm?
[12:30] <comicinker> sebastian01: just ask the question, don't ask to ask
[12:30] <dank> window manager
[12:30] <ndrwc> oh if only I could work out launchpad... :P
[12:31] <dank> when i use timeout to kill a unison job that will take a long time, it leaves the unison process on the server. I've tried -killserver and tried sending different signals, neither worked... any ideas?
[12:31] <johe> hi there, can someone give me a hint on installing Lubuntu ?
[12:32] <B_lix> hi, i have some question regrading ubuntu 9.10
[12:32] <soreau> ! ask | B_lix
[12:32] <suigeneris> !ask | B_lix
[12:33] <ndrwc> !karmic | B_lix
[12:33] <thayor> i need a yahoo messenger
[12:33] <sebastian01> i have question ubuntu 9.04  and microsoft lifecam vx 1000 cam not rrun
[12:33] <suigeneris> !pidgin | thayor
[12:33] <Terry> hey guys, i just want to know that is there any difference in usb startup disk creater and unetbootin?
[12:34] <indus> sebastian01: whats the output of lsusb
[12:34] <Terry> usb startup disk creater which is already in ubuntu
[12:34] <indus> sebastian01: in terminal
[12:34] <sebastian01> ok
[12:34] <indus> Terry: yes
[12:34] <indus> Terry: unetbootin is better
[12:34] <sebastian01> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[12:34] <sebastian01> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 045e:00f7 Microsoft Corp. LifeCam VX-1000.
[12:34] <sebastian01> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[12:34] <sebastian01> sebastian01@sebastian01-desktop:~$
[12:34] <FloodBot2> sebastian01: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:34] <indus> Terry: use it so u can make a bootable usb
[12:34] <Terry> indus: so we can write on usb drive,,, right?
[12:34] <ndrwc> !best | indus
[12:34] <B_lix> ok, i have installed ubuntu 9.10 karmic, when i enable the extra option on the visual effects i couldnt use my gnome i have to go and boot from the live cd and delete the xorg.con file, any solution to that
[12:35] <kazon_> hey! i fixed the DISPLAY ISSUE :D if anyone is having trouble with odd screensizes i may be able to help. I also have another question -- i disabled my wireless adapter to make sure i was using my cable but when i re-enabled it the network connection isn't present? i hope i don't have to add all the wireless net details as i don't know if i have them? is there another way?
[12:35] <indus> Terry: yes i have found usb creator fails to create a bootable usb properly
[12:35] <indus> Terry: use unetbootin
[12:35] <sebastian01> driver sn9c102 is no good
[12:35] <indus> ndrwc: i know that message
[12:36] <Terry> indus: well actually mine is working fine with that but unetbootin has many other options like???
[12:36] <ndrwc> indus, heh :) yes I guess "works" is better than "should work but doesn't"
[12:36] <B_lix> kazon_ | i am having problem with my display
[12:36] <sebastian01> inbus can you help me
[12:36] <kazon_> if you disable a wireless driver and re-enable it it wipes the connection details is it possible to restore them?
[12:36] <indus> Terry: of course you can download various linux distros automatically
[12:36] <kazon_> B_lix, what are you trying to do with the display?
[12:36] <Myrtti> B_lix: is this on karmic?
[12:37] <indus> Terry: its really nice, has a windows version etc
[12:37] <B_lix> yes karmic
[12:37] <B_lix> anything
[12:37] <Terry> indus: so i download  ubuntu version or windows or both are same..?
[12:37] <Myrtti> B_lix: as pointed out before, karmic support is on #ubuntu+1
 if you disable a wireless driver and re-enable it it wipes the connection details is it possible to restore them?
[12:37] <indus> Terry: use anything u like
[12:37] <B_lix> i cant do anything wioth the display or i wont be able to use gnome
[12:37] <Myrtti> B_lix: /join #ubuntu+1
[12:37] <indus> Terry: in ubuntu u get it from repos direct
[12:37] <luist> hey i installed a gtk 2 theme but i can only find its "controls" but not "window border" what should i do to fix that?
[12:38] <B_lix> ok
[12:38] <indus> B_lix: karmic has had some major breakage yesterday
[12:38] <indus> B_lix: anyways more discussion in ubuntu+!
[12:38] <indus> B_lix: anyways more discussion in ubuntu+1
[12:38] <Terry> indus: u mean in create usb startup disk option?
[12:38] <indus> Terry: what exactly u want to do
[12:39] <Terry> indus: is there any way that i can create image of my ubuntu for safe, like i have did for my vista and xp via acronis true image?
[12:39] <indus> Terry: sorry dont know anything about acronis true image
[12:39] <indus> is it any good?
 if you disable a wireless driver and re-enable it it wipes the connection details is it possible to restore them?
[12:40] <ndrwc> Terry, clonezilla should work with anything
[12:40] <indus> Terry: well unetbootin will download the iso image and burn it to usb
[12:40] <indus> !UNETBOOTIN
[12:40] <uriol> it is possible to merge into 1 partition 2 or 3 sd3 partitions that i have on my hard disk ?
[12:41] <uriol> i have 1 ntfs and 3 sd3
[12:41] <Terry> indus: forget acronis, just tell me can i do something like make backup of my ubuntu drive and save it in my usb drive for future use
[12:41] <indus> !info unetbootin
[12:41] <B_lix> \msg
[12:41] <uriol> sde3
[12:41] <indus> Terry: its not for making backups
[12:41] <B_lix> NO ONE RESPONDING IN UBUNTU+1
[12:42] <B_lix> IT LOOK LIKE THEY ARE ALL DEAD
[12:42] <indus> Terry: there is a backup tool by the same developer though i think
[12:42] <jussi01> !caps | B_lix
[12:42] <Terry> indus: means image of whole drive in one file and save that file for future use, u understand what i am trying to say?
[12:42] <indus> Terry: yes wait i sec
[12:42] <Terry> ok
[12:42] <Myrtti> B_lix: you need to be patient
[12:42] <kazon_> pro-tip: trolling here is a bad idea
[12:42] <hile> I was wondering one network-manager related thing: If I have a headless machine and I unplug and plug network cable, is there any program to tell it renew dhcp lease? the events are in gui handled by nm-applet I guess, but headless does not have it running
[12:42] <indus> B_lix: u have display issues with karmic or jaunty
[12:42] <B_lix> ok
[12:43] <Myrtti> indus: karmic
[12:43] <B_lix> its ok i am so sorry to bother you guys
[12:43] <nyk2005> Does someone know a program to classify short (2sec) audio samples (of enviromental sounds)?
[12:43] <B_lix> i will keep googling ]
[12:43] <B_lix> bye
[12:43] <uriol> i have 3 little partitions with ubuntu
 if you disable a wireless driver and re-enable it it wipes the connection details is it possible to restore them?
[12:43] <indus> Terry: you are talking about something like norton ghost isnt it
[12:43] <uriol> and i d like to merge them into 1 big
[12:43] <uriol> is it posible ?
[12:44] <Terry> indus: yessssss, u got it...:), i am talking about that
[12:44] <indus> Terry: good newss, unetbootin also wil linstall a backup tool
[12:44] <indus> Terry: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[12:44] <indus> check it out !!
[12:44] <Terry> indus: u mean if my ubuntu corrupted, i can restore my it back?, right?
[12:44] <kazon_> unetbootin is how i got my ubuntu installed via usb stick
[12:45] <indus> Terry: i dont think it works like ghost u need to try it
 if you disable a wireless driver and re-enable it it wipes the connection details is it possible to restore them?
[12:45] <kazon_> trying to fix my internets
[12:45] <Terry> indus: so u can install ubuntu via usb also?, i thought that for live only for backup other drives
[12:46] <Terry> indus: yeah, i will try that
[12:46] <kazon_> Terry yes you can - i did
[12:46] <indus> Terry: of course, i instaleld via usb :)
[12:46] <kazon_> unetbootin is the weapon of choice for installing ubuntu via pen
[12:46] <kazon_> now then anyone up for helping me with my wireless? :D
[12:47] <Terry> indus: great dude, install any os via usb, u know its work for windows also?
[12:47] <cam0l> tried to install my wireless router before with ndiswrapper
[12:47] <cam0l> wifi adapter*
[12:47] <indus> Terry: its only for installing linux os
[12:47] <kazon_> it was working but i disabled the adapter.. when i reenabled it the network connection was missing
[12:48] <kazon_> i'm hoping it's still there somewhere
[12:48] <indus> Terry: dont you know? in ubuntu therer is already a software for doing that ,its called usb creator
[12:48] <Terry> indus: is there any way u can install xp or vista from usb drive 4gb or 8 gb drive?
[12:48] <kazon_> because i'm not sure of all the details
[12:48] <indus> Terry: creates a live installable usb
[12:48] <kazon_> sod it i'll try and fill all the fields out
[12:48] <indus> Terry: dont know
[12:48] <Turbolinux> Can you recommend a usable proxy service?
[12:49] <Terry> indus: yes i know, thats what i asking you that inbuilt software is better or unetbootin?
[12:49] <Terry> my first question is that
[12:49] <indus> Terry: i prefer unetbootin as this thing has problems creating bootable usb
[12:49] <kazon_> oh man
[12:49] <Terry> indus: okkkkk
[12:50] <kazon_> there is no way i can configure this beast manually
[12:50] <kazon_> does anyone know how to get back network connection after reenabling adapter?
[12:50] <kazon_> wireless
[12:50] <indus> Terry: also unetbootin can install a lot of useful tools like system rescue etc
[12:51] <Terry> indus: thats also i need very urgent, my ubuntu always corrupted, because i have no ups, power cut problem is very bad here
[12:51] <indus> Terry: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Hardware/Ghost-for-Linux-53.shtml
[12:52] <indus> Terry: where u from?
[12:52] <Turbolinux> Can you help me?
[12:52] <Terry> indus: india, New delhi
[12:52] <soreau> kazon: It isnt too much info.. mostly just essid and encryption key
[12:52] <indus> Terry: hmm the capital city with power issues
[12:53] <SharpRain> How do I set deluge as my default torrent client instead of horrible built in Transmission
[12:53] <Terry> indus: yes, where u from?
[12:53] <ndrwc> Terry, also take a look at http://www.clonezilla.org/
[12:53] <indus> india where else
[12:53] <indus> ndrwc: did u see this one http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Hardware/Ghost-for-Linux-53.shtml seems nice
[12:53] <indus> ndrwc: i think ill check it out myslef
[12:53] <ndrwc> indus, Pakistan is very similar
[12:54] <indus> ndrwc: u pakistan?
[12:54] <indus> nvm
[12:54] <bazhang> !ot
[12:54] <indus> ya sorry bazhang
[12:54] <indus> ok next question please
[12:54] <ndrwc> indus, no but I've heard what the power situation is like there... where's the homepage for ghost fro linux?
[12:54] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 kazon_ this may help
[12:54] <indus> ndrwc: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Hardware/Ghost-for-Linux-53.shtml
[12:55] <behappy> Hello can I use elinks with  proxy ?
[12:55] <indus> ndrwc: aah home page
[12:55] <thayor> can some one help me with my system it isnt playing movies
[12:55] <Terry> indus: thanx for the great help, see ya later..byeeeee
[12:56] <indus> byeee
[12:56] <comicinker> thayor: what movies?
[12:56] <indus> ndrwc: http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ mayhbe here
[12:57] <thayor> i need a friend that can help me wiv ma system
[12:57] <indus> looks really good and useful
[12:57] <indus> oh man i forget
[12:57] <comicinker> thayor: did you checked this site? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[12:59] <indus> ndrwc: its an imageost\\ like gh
[12:59] <indus> ndrwc: its a iso like ghost
[12:59] <andreas__> hi
[12:59] <indus> ndrwc: never knew such tools exist for linux
[13:00] <andreas__> i have a problem about an installation. anybody german here?
[13:00] <Turbolinux> Can you recommend a usable proxy service? I want to enter a internet site.
[13:01] <aaron11> helo my partion has d less space and i got this update saying u need 156 mb data to store this it said to type sudo apt-get clean\
[13:01] <soreau> !proxy
[13:01] <factory> eina
[13:01] <indus> aaron11: yes type sudo apt-get clean
[13:02] <factory> watz up
[13:02] <Soyal> gimme a name of nice irc client pls
[13:02] <Soyal> now im using XChat
[13:03] <factory> botsie
[13:03] <DJones> !irc | Soyal
[13:03] <indus> Soyal: xchat, chatzilla
[13:03] <factory> botsie is in house boys
[13:03] <DJones> Soyal: Sorry, wrong factoid, if you like command line, Irssi
[13:03] <johnny1107> sziasztok!
[13:03] <Soyal> lol
[13:03] <Soyal> i do try irssi
[13:03] <Soyal> ;)
[13:04] <Soyal> but it dnt hv a smile support
[13:04] <indus> Soyal: i use pidgin sometimes
[13:04] <SharpRain> How do I get ubuntu off weird black and white high contrast mode?!
[13:04] <SharpRain> hlp
[13:04] <Turbolinux> No, I don't want to do anything with Freenode service. I only want to enter a internet site.
[13:04] <andreas__> i want to install ubuntu studio
[13:04] <indus> Soyal: how will a command line client have smileys?
[13:04] <Soyal> pidgin dnt hv any user controls.... is there ?
[13:04] <revenge> hey guys i need help with mounting a virtual drive to use SSF emulator... http://paste.ubuntu.com/272060/
[13:04] <Soyal> lol
[13:04] <indus> Soyal: install xchat from repos
[13:05] <Pici> Turbolinux: Providing proxies is not part of Ubuntu support, sorry.
[13:05] <Soyal> okiezz
[13:05] <Soyal> indus: where u frm ?
[13:05] <SharpRain> hao do I get ubuntu out of high contrast mode?
[13:05] <Soyal> r u in ur ubuntu noe ?
[13:05] <indus> yes
[13:05] <Turbolinux> Ok. I understand. Thank you.
[13:05] <bazhang> andreas__, install ubuntustudio-desktop package
[13:05] <soreau> SharpRain: Is it still like that even after restarting X?
[13:05] <SharpRain> Restarting what?
[13:06] <SharpRain> It happens to the whole thing
[13:06] <soreau> !x
[13:06] <SharpRain> I pressed a keyboard shortcut accidentally
[13:06] <andreas__> i download a iso of ubuntostudio ist that ok?
[13:06] <charnel> hi I have 2 ubuntu notebooks and want to connect them . But How can I know the ip of one ?
[13:06] <levander> Is there a recommended way in Ubuntu to run the scripts in /etc/init.d?  I've just been running them directly.  I think in Red Hat, it used to be there was some 'service' command you would use to run the scripts.
[13:06] <soreau> SharpRain: Its probably compiz negative
[13:06] <bazhang> andreas__, not certain there is an iso anylonger
[13:06] <soreau> SharpRain: Try Super+m
[13:06] <charnel> I installed the ssh and selecting connect to a server from places
[13:06] <soreau> ugh
[13:07] <Pici> levander: 'service' exists on newer versions of Ubuntu, the other recommended way would be to use invoke-rc.d servicename start/stop/whatever
[13:07] <erUSUL> levander: invoke-rc.d
[13:08] <bazhang> http://ubuntustudio.org/downloads andreas__ my mistake, here they are
[13:08] <levander> invoke-rc.d is hard to type, bad name for a utility, no wonder i never used it
[13:08] <erUSUL> charnel: how are you connecting them? crossover cable ? a hub? a switch? a router?
[13:08] <revenge> Can someone help me use gmount-iso to actually mount the file system (i.e. mount /dev/sr1 /media/vdrive) and put it in /etc/fstab
[13:08] <erUSUL> levander: tab completion does wonders
[13:08] <andreas__> iso is from windows and not linux, that's right?
[13:09] <charnel> erUSUL: I ahve a hub which is connected to my adsl modem
[13:09] <suigeneris> !video
[13:09] <charnel> and the 2 laptops are connected to that hub too
[13:09] <bazhang> andreas__, ubuntustudio ? no connection to Microsoft
[13:09] <duffydack> revenge, gmountiso is just for mounting isos
[13:09] <allan8904> hey guys, how do i configure my multimedia keys in ubuntu?
[13:09] <charnel> but I want to learn the logic
[13:09] <erUSUL> !keys
[13:09] <duffydack> revenge, like daemon tools/alcohol for windows.
[13:09] <revenge> duffydack: but i want to mount it so that it is in devices
[13:09] <andreas__> ok. i'm a newbie about linux, sorry
[13:10] <revenge> duffydack: but when i use a program it does not recongnize the mounted file like it does my cd/rom drive
[13:10] <damjan> hy. I got some questions
[13:11] <erUSUL> charnel: then give each of the netbooks a valid ip/netmask pair ( 192.168.1.x with netmask <IP_ADDRESS>) and they should be able to ping each other
[13:11] <duffydack> revenge, im not sure how to do that...
[13:11] <erUSUL> charnel: not sure if a modem will work connected diractly to a hub
[13:12] <damjan> I know that I can get virtual network interfaces in ubuntu, but is it posible to get a new MAC address for that virtual interface
[13:12] <charnel> erUSUL: the modem is working fine . But I dont know anything about networking how can I assign an ip from the command line do you ahve a good tutorial for that ?
[13:12] <revenge> duffydack: this is what i'm trying to do: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=13458&iTestingId=33660
[13:12] <erUSUL> damjan: try using ifconfig to change the mac ot the virtual iface
[13:12] <erUSUL> charnel: there are plenty on the net.. you use ifconfig
[13:13] <damjan> I know how to change on real network interface
[13:13] <erUSUL> charnel: man ifconfig
[13:13] <SharpRain> You!!
[13:13] <SharpRain> I did that
[13:13] <SharpRain> and It hung
[13:13] <SharpRain> i had to turn off my computer
[13:13] <FloodBot2> SharpRain: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:13] <SharpRain> and lose my work
[13:13] <erUSUL> SharpRain: you did what?
[13:13] <SharpRain> sudo whatever restart X
[13:13] <damjan> Would it be posibel to chanel connection on vlc to that new virtual interface?
[13:14] <soreau> SharpRain: I think youre thinking of Super+m (super is the windows key)
[13:14] <revenge> duffydack: do you see it?
[13:14] <duffydack> revenge, hmm, tried cdeum?
[13:14] <duffydack> cdemu*(
[13:14] <charnel> erUSUL: I don't have that command any way thank you I will make a little research and return back to here if cannot find any solution
[13:14] <SharpRain> Meh, I'm on vista at the moment
[13:14] <SharpRain> I've had enough of ubuntu for now
[13:14] <damjan> haha
[13:15] <damjan> Would it be posibel to chanel connection on vlc to that new virtual interface?
[13:15] <kismet> hey there.. dose anybody know how to fix global menu with firefox?
[13:17] <kismet> seems like a no?!
[13:17] <revenge> duffydack: trying now
[13:17] <duffydack> revenge, mount the iso in fstab? is that all you wanna do?   /home/revenge/file.iso      /media/iso      udf,iso9660 user,noauto,loop    0       0
[13:18] <cursive> does anyone know a good web designing app for ubuntu?
[13:19] <SilentJonathan> ded
[13:19] <revenge> duffydack: in order to mount to fstab i have to type /media/iso      udf,iso9660 user,noauto,loop    0       0 after?
[13:19] <duffydack> revenge, in fact, remove the noauto
[13:20] <kismet> cursive: nvu, screem or bluefish
[13:20] <duffydack> revenge, gksudo /etc/fstab  and
[13:20] <duffydack> revenge, add /home/revenge/file.iso      /media/iso      udf,iso9660 user,loop    0       0
[13:20] <duffydack> revenge, all 1 line
[13:21] <duffydack> revenge, then sudo mount -a
[13:21] <duffydack> revenge, /media/iso needs to exist.. or use whatever folder you want.
[13:21] <cursive> hmm, oke
[13:21] <revenge> daffydack: ok this is my directory /home/revenge/isomount
[13:22] <kismet> cursive: what do you want to develop/design
[13:22] <duffydack> revenge,  /home/revenge/file.iso      /home/revenge/isomount       udf,iso9660 user,loop    0       0
[13:23] <matteo_> h all... I am having problems with my fujitsu amilo PI 1505 keyboard... If i press a symbol key i get another one instead! I think i have pressed a wrong button because all worked since 3 days ago! Any tips?
[13:23] <revenge> duffydack: but the actual location of the iso file is the first part?
[13:23] <cursive> kismet: Nothing major, just a personal website
[13:23] <revenge> duffydack: /home/revenge/file.iso ???
[13:24] <duffydack> revenge, use whatever...
[13:24] <duffydack> revenge,  /location_of_iso/file.iso      /home/revenge/isomount       udf,iso9660 user,loop    0       0
[13:25] <revenge> duffydack: thanks, how do i  unmount it?
[13:25] <vigo> cursive: WYSIWYG type or ?
[13:25] <kismet> cursive: try nvu it is kind of dreamwaver
[13:25] <Rods_Tiger> is there any advice for changing from a different distro to ubuntu but retaining all the data in the user directories? (ie, I don't want to just wipe the hd and install - I'd like to keep the home directories as they are)
[13:25] <cursive> oke
[13:25] <cursive> wysiwyg
[13:25] <duffydack> revenge, you shouldnt need to add it to fstab for that wine/ssf prog... just mount it as needed and when you setup wine just add a mount point and set as cd.
[13:25] <vigo> I agree with kismet. Bluefish is kinda fun also.
[13:25] <ndrwc> Rods_Tiger, you'd have to have /home on a different partition
[13:25] <Rods_Tiger> ok
[13:25] <aliendoggie> hi, i have a strange sound problem. card: internal VIA VT1708S (hda intel). I cannot listen to line-in sound but I can capture it with mencoder. everything in amixer is unmuted. anyone to help?
[13:26] <invisible-pro> will Ubuntu work fine on a Mac ?
[13:26] <duffydack> revenge, having it in fstab will mount it everytime you startup pc
[13:26] <yaron> if I mute my music by scrolling down on the speaker symbol next to my time, it doen't fully mute. Is this a known issue?
[13:26] <matteo_>  h all... I am having problems with my fujitsu amilo PI 1505 keyboard... If i press a symbol key i get another one instead! I think i have pressed a wrong button because all worked since 3 days ago! Any tips?
[13:26] <Rods_Tiger> looks like I'll have to hook up a usb drive and back it up first, then
[13:26] <yaron> I did gogole a bit, but couldn't find anything
[13:26] <Rods_Tiger> invisible-pro: I use ubuntu on my Macbook using virtualbox
[13:27] <invisible-pro> Rods_Tiger: wireless works ?
[13:27] <Rods_Tiger> yep
[13:27] <revenge> duffydack: yeah im kinda new to linux
[13:27] <invisible-pro> Rods_Tiger: do you think it will work on bootcamp as well ?
[13:27] <Rods_Tiger> I've done it with paralleles and vmware, but virtualbox is free anyway
[13:28] <Rods_Tiger> not used bootcamp - I'd prefer not to reboot, but I can't see why not
[13:28] <duffydack> revenge, its only saying to add to fstab so wine when run for the first time will detect what mount points to set.
[13:28] <invisible-pro> Oh ok, I'm not owning a Mac Pro so I don't have that much power to run to OSes
[13:28] <invisible-pro> s/to/2
[13:28] <duffydack> revenge, you can set your own.  its simple enough in the winecfg gui
[13:29] <Rods_Tiger> it'll be ok, try it and see - if you run into limitations, you've not lost anything
[13:29] <revenge> duffydack: ah yeah i see, i just want to get it recognized, its still not showing
[13:29] <invisible-pro> Rods_Tiger: ok , ty for the info
[13:29] <Rods_Tiger> install virtualbox, then install ubuntu into it
[13:29] <bigmack83> is there a way that when youre in the cli to open nautilus in the dir youre at?
[13:29] <duffydack> revenge, recognised where.. ubuntu or wine
[13:29] <invisible-pro> Does Ubuntu come with sshd port open as default ?
[13:30] <revenge> duffydack: wine
[13:30] <duffydack> revenge, is it mounted in ubuntu
[13:30] <Cpudan80> invisible-pro: no
[13:30] <duffydack> revenge, will usually show you a cd icon on desktop
[13:30] <invisible-pro> Cpudan80: ok
[13:30] <Cpudan80> invisible-pro: there is no firewall in the default install, but ssh is not installed either
[13:30] <invisible-pro> ty
[13:30] <revenge> duffydack: yes its in ubuntu
[13:30] <Rods_Tiger> I ssh out from ubuntu on my netbook but haven't tried in
[13:30] <revenge> duffydack: i can see it mounted on desktop and in Places
[13:31] <invisible-pro> Cpudan80:  what kind of firewalls do you recommend ?
[13:31] <Cpudan80> none
[13:31] <kismet> is anyone useing global menu
[13:31] <revenge> duffydack: but it does not recongnize it in Wine
[13:31] <duffydack> revenge, go into winecfg then and add a drive letter, set mountpoint to /home/revenge/isomount
[13:31] <invisible-pro> Cpudan80:  :)) alright then
[13:31] <Cpudan80> Your router should do NAT for you - which is enough
[13:31] <duffydack> revenge, and set type as CDROM.
[13:31] <vigo> !firewall
[13:31] <Cpudan80> Unless you have a public IP, in which case you can do your own standard IP tables
[13:32] <Cpudan80> what vigo said ;-)
[13:32] <navatwo> Okay, I'm trying to get my headphones working in Ubuntu, it was a large pain to get my sound + video working with smplayer, does anyone know why headphones WONT work?
[13:32] <Rods_Tiger> which sort are they? sennheisers?
[13:33] <revenge> duffydack: thanks, lemme see if it works
[13:33] <indus> Rods_Tiger: why is that brand famous?
[13:33] <indus> Rods_Tiger: my 5 dollar headphone works good too
[13:34] <revenge> duffydack: hmm for some reason now wine isn't loading the program lol
[13:35] <indus> hello all  wnat to know the price of a 250gb hard disk in the usa
[13:35] <JoshuaP0x1> I was using a live CD to disinfect windows OS of spyware. I figured I would boot to ubuntu, install AVG or AVAIL and scan the drive. I couldnt get it working becuase the hard drive was mounted funny. Has anyone had success doing somthign like this?
[13:36] <Pici> indus: You know that this channel isn't for that, use ##hardware instead.
[13:36] <indus> JoshuaP0x1: not enough data to diagnose
[13:36] <JoshuaP0x1> indus: what else do you need?
[13:36] <indus> JoshuaP0x1: what is 'fuuny'
[13:36] <JoshuaP0x1> indus: what type of HDD?
[13:36] <Sagaci> JoshuaP0x1: have you tried scanning via clamtk/av?
[13:36] <indus> JoshuaP0x1: internal
[13:37] <JoshuaP0x1> indus: SATA, IDE, SCSI?
[13:37] <indus> JoshuaP0x1: nvm lets solve your problem first
[13:37] <Rods_Tiger> how funny was it?
[13:37] <JoshuaP0x1> Rods_Tiger: ROTF
[13:37] <indus> JoshuaP0x1: sata hdd btw
[13:37] <ShishKabab> Hi. Does anyone have tip on how to record all audio in your computer? I saw Skype Call Recorder but I don't use Skype but Twinkle and that prorgam uses the Skype API.
[13:37] <revenge> duffydack: i think there is some kind of error with my cdrom config in wine now
[13:37] <lnxuser1122> .
[13:37] <JoshuaP0x1> indus: when I did an fdisk, i didn't see it mounted
[13:38] <indus> JoshuaP0x1: can i see your fdisk
[13:38] <JoshuaP0x1> and when I did a fdisk -l, nothing showed
[13:38] <JoshuaP0x1> I dont have it up and running now
[13:38] <indus> JoshuaP0x1: i might be wrong, but fdisk i believe shows all partitions on hdd
[13:38] <indus> mounted or not ,
[13:38] <indus> someone correct me if iam wrong
[13:38] <duffydack> revenge,  do you use wine for anything else?
[13:38] <indus> JoshuaP0x1: is that an external hdd
[13:39] <JoshuaP0x1> indus: you know what, it's hard to t-shoot somthing that's not happeneing now
[13:39] <o2o> hi, everyone
[13:39] <revenge> duffydack: yes sometimes
[13:39] <o2o> ubuntu is a good thing
[13:39] <Myrtti> !hi | o2o
[13:39] <indus> JoshuaP0x1: well true, i suggest you keep that system near when asking help
[13:39] <revenge> duffydack: wineConfig is not letting me remove the drive i put in
[13:40] <o2o> hi Myrtti
[13:40] <indus> i dont feel really free when asking questions or helping btw
[13:40] <indus> nvm
[13:40] <JoshuaP0x1> indus: the SCSI, SATA and IDE are all hard drives that can be internal
[13:40] <JoshuaP0x1> indus: I agree. I had to move on so I took out the HDD, attached it via usb interface and scanned it with another PC
[13:40] <wrapster> I just downloaded a deb pkg and i extracted its contents using the dpkg -x to a directory... Now i did a couple of changes.. I want to rebuild it now.. How do i do it? If if use dpkg -b on the dir it is not working.. Im a newbie.. please help
[13:40] <duffydack> revenge, best join #winehq then
[13:41] <o2o> does anyone know how to autofill the nickname
[13:41] <revenge> duffydack: what is command to do that from here?
[13:41] <indus> o2o: press tab
[13:41] <indus> o2o:
[13:41] <indus> o2o:
[13:41] <FloodBot2> indus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:41] <duffydack> revenge, /join
[13:41] <JoshuaP0x1> indus: i was able to disinfect enough to at least install the tools needed to get rid of the rest
[13:41] <indus> press o then tab
[13:41] <o2o> hi indus, tab doesn't work
[13:41] <revenge> k thanks for your help
[13:41] <indus> JoshuaP0x1: try avast anti virus
[13:41] <o2o> I am using  xchat-gnome irc
[13:42] <duffydack> revenge, I dont have it installed or use it so I cant help much
[13:42] <indus> o2o: tab dont work? hmm
[13:42] <JoshuaP0x1> indus: I did
[13:42] <indus> JoshuaP0x1: so you have any major problems now?
[13:42] <JoshuaP0x1> indus: didn't work well with live
[13:42] <revenge> daffydack: lol 1more thing how do i see the users in irc, they are not showing on the right side
[13:42] <rgmz> where does synaptic save all the packages and files it downloads
[13:42] <JoshuaP0x1> indus: does your HDD interface look like: http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/adding-a-hard-drive-7.jpg
[13:43] <indus> JoshuaP0x1: i dont have a problem
[13:43] <indus> JoshuaP0x1: mine is a sata
[13:43] <JoshuaP0x1> gotcha
[13:43] <IdleOne> rgmz: /var/cache/apt/archives
[13:43] <eshat> Hi all ... How do I delete my apt cache ?
[13:43] <eshat> I mean also all (not-installed) package-info of dpkg
[13:44] <indus> eshat: apt-get clean i suppose
[13:44] <JoshuaP0x1> http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-250GB-WD2500KS/dp/B000FL3T9I
[13:44] <rgmz> thanks IdleOne
[13:44] <JoshuaP0x1> 99.95 for a 250GB
[13:44] <eshat> indus: no that's not it
[13:44] <eshat> that only deletes downloaded packages
[13:46] <indus> eshat: ya what else u want
[13:46] <indus> eshat: what is apt storing
[13:46] <indus> eshat: autoclean? autoremove?
[13:46] <IdleOne> JoshuaP0x1: I saw a 1TB WD for that price on tigerdirect
[13:47] <eshat> indus: no
[13:47] <eshat> /var/cache/apt/
[13:47] <indus> JoshuaP0x1: ya way too much for 250 gb
[13:47] <indus> eshat: apt-cache mmm
[13:47] <eshat> there are 40 MB files containg all info about the apt mirrors, I want them to be removed before doing a backup
[13:47] <eshat> mmm ?
[13:48] <indus> wait'
[13:48] <indus> eshat: googled but cant find anything
[13:48] <eshat> indus: thanks anyway,...
[13:48] <indus> eshat: whagt about manually removing
[13:49] <rgmz> can i use the libraries from the apt cache to install on a new ubuntu
[13:49] <eshat> indus: I don't want to risk that,... even though i found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=360676
[13:49] <JoshuaP0x1> IdleOne: I see another one for 44.99
[13:49] <indus> eshat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58448
[13:49] <indus> heh me too a link
[13:49] <JoshuaP0x1> and another for 41.99
[13:50] <indus> eshat: your link i already suggested to you, mine is a little different i guess try
[13:50] <indus> eshat: though, i feel since it lies in /var, its a diff step
[13:50] <eshat> indus: okay thanks
[13:51] <dpreacher2> what's the ideal RAM and disk space requirements to test run ubuntu 9 on virtualbox
[13:52] <Pici> !ot | JoshuaP0x1
[13:52] <playya__> is it a bug or defined behavior that a command with leading whitespace does not appear in history?
[13:52] <indus> playya__: which command is this with a leading whitespace?
[13:52] <playya__> every. e.g. ls
[13:52] <Len_> hi can any1 helpme configuring my network with dhcp + dnsmask?
[13:52] <playya__> if you use " ls"
[13:53] <LjL> they sure show up for me, playya__.
[13:53] <playya__> hmm. 1s i have a bash as my default shell
[13:53] <LjL> so do I
[13:53] <indus> playya__: hmm they dont u are right
[13:54] <Len_> hi can any1 helpme configuring my network with dhcp + dnsmask?
[13:54] <indus> playya__: sometimes they do too
[13:55] <indus> playya__: dont know whats going on really
[13:55] <playya__> that's interesting for owned machines
[13:56] <EuphoniC> I'm about to raid5 a few hdds, anyone know how I can set the RAID flag for a drive in console? All HOWTOs I find imply using GParted but my machine is *console only*.
[13:57] <root> #remote-exploit
[13:58] <playya__> EuphoniC, I never setup a raid. but maybe in fdisk advanced options?
[13:58] <rogerchen> having trouble to find the best mysql-client under linux
[13:58] <playya__> wtf. you allow people to come in with root@*?
[13:59] <Len_> !dnsmasq!
[13:59] <Len_> !dnsmasq
[14:00] <Len_> !dns
[14:01] <erUSUL> EuphoniC: man mdadm
[14:01] <julemore> is it possible to use an integrated wifi in linux?
[14:02] <brian___> hello channel, i'm looking for help for getting an old logitech BJ58 mouse working in Jaunty
[14:02] <Guest28774> does anybody know how to call apon a diff wifi driver that is already loaded in the system
[14:03] <Guest28774> i have rt2500 i need rt2870sta
[14:03] <erUSUL> julemore: yes
[14:04] <bnmrrs> Hey everybody.  I have a memory key that I plugged into my ubuntu machine but it is coming up as read only.. I'm not sure how to mount it as writable.  Does anybody have a suggestion?
[14:04] <wers> !ayatana
[14:04] <brian___> i'm looking for help for getting an old logitech BJ58 mouse working in Jaunty. currently, it's not detected at all
[14:04] <Guest28774> lsusb ? not in there
[14:04] <julemore> is it possible to use an integrated wifi in linux?
[14:05] <islington> julemore: what kind of kard is it?
[14:05] <islington> *card
[14:05] <julemore> is not a card it is a chip
[14:05] <DJones> julemore: Yes it is, although it can depend on which wifi chip is built in
[14:05] <julemore> integrated
[14:05] <DJones> !wifi | julemore
[14:06] <julemore> I mean.. it is not an USB wifi
[14:06] <julemore> so is it possible to get it running if it is not an USB DEVICE?
[14:06] <brian___> i'm looking for help for getting an old logitech BJ58 mouse working in Jaunty. currently, it's not detected at all
[14:07] <islington> julemore: pop in  alive cd , if it works then the live cd should be able to connect to the net
[14:07] <DJones> julemore: yes, my wifes toshiba laptop has integrated wifi and it works fine
[14:08] <Zajkos> ty pnieas
[14:08] <Zajkos> chuj
[14:09] <brian___> i'm looking for help for getting an old logitech BJ58 mouse working in Jaunty. currently, it's not detected at all
[14:10] <ramya> TELNET
[14:11] <phoe7> !glchess
[14:11] <grawity> ramya: ?
[14:11] <ramya> what is telnet?
[14:12] <Guest28774> i port that u can connect to on a box
[14:12] <DJones> !telnet | ramya
[14:12] <Guest28774> access informatiopn files from remote places
[14:12] <ipang> blk
[14:12] <m0j4h3d> hi guys ..
[14:12] <brian___> i'm looking for help for getting an old logitech BJ58 mouse working in Jaunty. currently, it's not detected at all
[14:12] <Guest28774> hydra -telnet fun times
[14:13] <phoe7> ramya. head to wikipedia for telnet information
[14:13] <m0j4h3d> who is asking about telnet
[14:13] <phoe7> brian did u google for support of that mouse
[14:14] <brian___> phoe7: yep
[14:14] <brian___> phoe7: did that already and, so far, blank
[14:14] <m0j4h3d> did any one know how do i get the ip for some one am talking in kmess
[14:14] <m0j4h3d> using backtrack 4
[14:15] <brian___> kind of weird that ubuntu doesn't have an out of the box driver for it
[14:15] <moreia> Um, I'm really hoping someone can help me here.  I'm on Hardy (8.04) and some updates from Monday night to Firefox 3.0.14 have left me with no "submit" button. I can't figure out what this is about but I can do basically anything but click "submit" on the interwebs. Tabbing to the button and hitting return does no better. Any ideas?
[14:15] <johnT> m0j4h3d, not an ubuntu question
[14:15] <Pici> m0j4h3d: We do not support backtrack here, please use their support channel: #remote-exploit
[14:15] <m0j4h3d> ok well done . thanks brothers any way ..
[14:16] <brian___> kind of weird that ubuntu doesn't have an out of the box driver for it
[14:16] <brian___> i'm looking for help for getting an old logitech BJ58 mouse working in Jaunty. currently, it's not detected at all
[14:16] <konza> HI,has anyone used john the ripper?
[14:17] <Guest28774> m0j4h3d have u tryed wireshark
[14:17] <Guest28774> ?
[14:17] <grawity> konza: What is your real question?
[14:18] <rasiq> moreia - try remove and reinstall via apt
[14:18] <konza> grawity,  I installed john the ripper and but i get this error     'no hashes loaded'. I use ubuntu 9.04
[14:18] <brian___> i'm looking for help for getting an old logitech BJ58 mouse working in Jaunty. currently, it's not detected at all
[14:19] <grawity> konza: You need to specify a file that contains hashes.
[14:19] <moreia> rasiq: oh right. that makes more sense than staring blankly at my computer. Will try.
[14:22] <konza> grawity,  first i tried this command  ' sudo unshadow  /etc/shadow /etc/passwd >somefile'
[14:23] <konza> grawity, then i tried this command 'john somefile'
[14:24] <moreia> Okay, this is just weird. I did "sudo aptitude remove firefox" and it isn't gone.
[14:24] <nyk2005> Does someone know a program to classify short (2sec) audio samples (of enviromental sounds)?
[14:25] <Sidewinder1> brian___ > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=906909&highlight=logitech+BJ58  It's an old thread, but at least two folks were using that mouse, perhaps you could politely PM them, That is if no one here can answer your question, which seems apparent..
[14:25] <veasmkii> try looking in synaptic and removing firefox there, its got multiple packages
[14:25] <basajaun> who looks after the lxde repos for jaunty?
[14:25] <Sidewinder1> Oh, he's gone..
[14:26] <jpatota> is there any difference from the user end perspective between the swf players from swfdec, adobe, and gnash. all 3 are options for install when firefox suggests a flash plugin
[14:26] <veasmkii> gnash wasn't so great when i used it, its not a complete solution. You're best off using the adobe one honestly, even though it sucks
[14:27] <basajaun> jpatota,  use adobe
[14:27] <rasiq> jpatota adobe still the best..
[14:27] <temporarytao> anybody had the weird experience of their USB mouse suddenly becoming undetected in Jaunty?
[14:27] <milligan_> I'm trying to establish a VPN connection . Tcpdump of the attempt tells me this: http://pastebin.com/d485e1b28 . Any idea why the client just sits there, trying to get an ip but never receives one ?
[14:27] <basajaun> yes temporarytao
[14:27] <konza> grawity,  u there?
[14:28] <temporarytao> basajaun, is there something up with jaunty these days?
[14:28] <basajaun> had that problem a while back
[14:28] <temporarytao> basajaun, how'd you solve it?
[14:29] <jpatota> veasmkii: basajaun: rasiq: thanks!
[14:30] <basajaun> welcome jpatota
[14:30] <moreia> So no one else is finding that firefox won't stop crashing after the latest update?
[14:30] <temporarytao> basajaun, hate to be annoying but i'd really like to know how you solved the problem
[14:32] <basajaun> temporarytao,  I think one of the kernel updates solved it but I had somewhat improved my lot through installing  storage device manager
[14:32] <Hlao-ru> Hi, how to update openssh & openssl to the latest verison in ubuntu?
[14:34] <temporarytao> basajaun, i'm on 2.6.28-15 now. what's your kernel?
[14:34] <basajaun> why are the ldxe reos for jaunty not updated?
[14:35] <hotdog003> Hello! There's a utility somewhere, but I can't remember its name. You run it in a terminal and click on an X window, and this utility would print info about the window you click on- its class, its size, etc. What was it called?
[14:35] <kevdog> Hlao-ru: For the latest version you would need to compile it
[14:35] <Pici> hotdog003: xwininfo
[14:36] <hotdog003> Thank you, Pici! That's exactly what I wanted. Many thanks.
[14:36] <mika007> Hi! Haven't updated my KUbuntu for a while.... but... is the bug with this DVB-C card "Technorend C1500, later version with 2 antenna sockets: In/Out using 01:08.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01)" already fixed? If not, any chances to get it fixed into [K]Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[14:37] <kevdog> Hlao-ru: For the latest version within the ubuntu repositories, they should be pulled down with the automatic updates, however you can do an update manually if you want -- sudo aptitude update, then sudo aptitude upgrade
[14:37] <basajaun> -14 temporarytao
[14:38] <Hlao-ru> kevdog > hmm okay thanks
[14:38] <mika007> problem: If you just start kaffeine and try to activate DVB-C live broadcast, kaffeine hangs every time. Work-around: if I first start kaffeine, then watch either a DVD disc or a MPEG file on disk, and only after that activate DVB-C live watching, then it does not hang every time, but it still hangs sometimes, but sometimes not (reason unknown for this odd-looking behavior)
[14:39] <beer_> help
[14:40] <basajaun> temporarytao,  go into add remove and Install Storage Device MAnager
[14:40] <temporarytao> basajaun, ok. will try
[14:42] <temporarytao> basajaun, PySDM is what you mean? also, why should a storage manager affect a USB mouse?
[14:43] <aliasp> go to start >accessories>terminal type gnome-control-center
[14:44] <basajaun> oops temporarytao  mistake I apologize hastily read usb
[14:44] <dsdeiz> hello, evilwm users. do you guys use a panel?
[14:45] <CryptIce7> I would like to monitor hard drive performance while running a process.  Is there a utility to do this?
[14:46] <aliasp> okay panal y put  panels around the box right click on it
[14:46] <temporarytao> basajaun, so you did not have a "suddenly-disconnecting-USB-mouse" problem then?
[14:46] <jpatota> q!
[14:47] <basajaun> no temporarytao
[14:48] <basajaun> temporarytao,  can you reproduce it with any usb mouse? or just one?
[14:48] <wrapster> a part of which package is javac?
[14:48] <temporarytao> basajaun, just the one.
[14:48] <wrapster> im unable to find it and its really urgent
[14:48] <temporarytao> really weird problem
[14:48] <wrapster> please help
[14:48] <temporarytao> i'm now worried that the usb ports are not providing enough power
[14:49] <B9> does anyone know of a text editor that is really light, can be resized, supports fonts of complex scripts and most importantly can be customized to show no menu bars and tool bars to save space?
[14:49] <FoolsRun> Hi, I have a possibly simple question: I have a large scan/fax/copier (rebranded Aficio 2024 I believe) which only supports scan-to-email, not scan-to-folder. The office I want to use this in uses Google for their mail (they're only two people, bringing mail in-house seemed excessive). I'm wondering how difficult it would be to set up scan-to-email using an Ubuntu server as SMTP. I'd probably get RBLed right away, right?
[14:49] <aliasp> my ubuntu os was disconnected after a chat with my isp hmmm?
[14:50] <temporarytao> basajaun, i'm giving this up for now
[14:50] <temporarytao> thanks for the help anyway
[14:51] <indus> basajaun: what was his problem?
[14:51] <indus> basajaun: tao
[14:52] <basajaun> undetected usb mouse indus
[14:53] <danbhfive> B9: gedit supports f11
[14:53] <gondor> hi
[14:53] <indus> !hi
[14:54] <gondor> need some help with my webcam any one ?
[14:54] <indus> gondor: sure ask question
[14:54] <indus> !ask | gondor
[14:54] <wearetherock> @gondor what wrong
[14:54] <gondor> well i had hard installed and my webcam worked great with averytuing
[14:55] <ghostlines> how to check cpu temps in the terminal?
[14:55] <gondor> but I just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu jaunty and my webcam does not seem to work
[14:56] <gondor> I tried with chesse and I got this error mesage
[14:56] <gondor> libv4l2: error setting pixformat: Invalid argument
[14:56] <wearetherock> what your webcam
[14:56] <indus> ghostlines: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone
[14:56] <ghostlines> indus, thanks dude
[14:56] <ice_cream> hi, i have a share partition/dir of songs mounted in fstab as "/dev/sda5 /mnt/share  vfat  rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,auto  0 0"  Now i noticed a bunch of them are bright green in my terminal, which is a mark of being executable (and ls -l confirmed).   Will this entry in fstab continue to make them green after i recursively chmod them?
[14:56] <indus> gondor: u said it was working good before?
[14:56] <indus> dude is such a silly word
[14:56] <gondor> yes
[14:57] <gondor> Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0303 WebCam
[14:57] <indus> gondor: could you  try another application ? like ekiga ?
[14:57] <gondor> I could try ekiga but I don't know how to use it
[14:57] <gondor> :))
[14:58] <indus> gondor: else, in a terminal type gstreamer-properties and in video input select v4l
[14:58] <indus> gtgoo
[14:58] <indus> bye
[14:59] <kevdog> Need a good screen tut
[14:59] <gondor> indu Video for Linux 2 (v4l2): Device '/dev/video0' cannot capture at 640x480
[15:02] <kevdog> indus:  Within the /proc/acpi/thermal_zone directory I have THR1 and THR2 directories -- which one is accurate -- they both have the same timestamp
[15:02] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  When I do "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" in a shell, the Update Manager window pops up.  How do I make it not do that?
[15:03] <designs703> anyone know of a way to find out my monitor's max resolution and other settings?
[15:03] <jonaskoelker> designs703: xrandr?
[15:04] <credo> designs703: best place is to google you monitors user manual. usually in .pdf
[15:05] <designs703> credo, jonaskoelker: thanks, got it
[15:05] <jonaskoelker> yw
[15:05] <Aison> hello
[15:06] <Aison> googleearth works, but the gui font is crap
[15:06] <Aison> no idea why
[15:06] <gondor> so ?
[15:07] <Aison> how can I setup the gui font
[15:07] <kevdog> When I run the command sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade -- the second command never runs, and I get nothing in terms of an error code for the first command -- nothing in logs -- WHY???
[15:07] <Boohbah> Aison: http://cviorel.easyblog.ro/2009/09/02/fix-google-earth-5-0-user-interface-font-on-linux/
[15:07] <designs703> Aison, it's been a couple years since I installed it, but don't Google Earth and Picasa run through Wine or something similar?
[15:07] <Aison> no, googlearth runs native
[15:07] <jonaskoelker> kevdog: do you need to input your password to sudo?  Does the pass prompt time out?
[15:08] <Boohbah> Aison: it looks like a qt configuration issue
[15:08] <pradeep> Any one familiar with tomboy notes
[15:08] <AmbrNewlearner> hello, I just accidently deleted a folder using shift+del combination on my backup HDD.....how to recover it?
[15:08] <Asad-away> Is there any ext3 data recovery app you know of? fsck deleted one of my VirtualBox hard disk (.dvi) file and it's 0 bytes now :S
[15:08] <jonaskoelker> kevdog: in which context do you run these commands?  Can you pastebin what's in your xterm?
[15:09] <kevdog> jonaskoeller: It prompts me for my password with the first command --- grabs or hits all the repositories -- then returns back to command line without anything running from the second command.  If I run the second commad it does run
[15:09] <AmbrNewlearner> The partition type is ext3
[15:09] <pradeep> Any one familiar with tomboy notes??
[15:09] <jonaskoelker> Asad-away: I've used testdisk to recover partitions, I dunno about ext3 though.  Give it a look?
[15:09] <AmbrNewlearner> Ubuntu is installed on separate HDD
[15:09] <pradeep> I want to see my tomboy notes on my desktop
[15:09] <kevdog> jonaskoeller: I don't understand that question -- What's in my xterm -- I'm just running the commands from the command line
[15:09] <Asad-away> no the partition isn't corrupt .. it's my VirtualBox dvi file that's lost ... :S
[15:10] <jonaskoelker> kevdog: from tty1?
[15:10] <zizou> eenode.net
[15:10] <jonaskoelker> kevdog: well, pastebin the command you run and the output of it
[15:10] <AmbrNewlearner> Asad-away: looks like we have same problem
[15:10] <fission6> how do i change the ownership of apache2 to my user after i install, everything is owned by root
[15:10] <kevdog> jonaskoeller: OK
[15:10] <Asad-away> yea AmbrNewlearner .. i believe we're looking for the same type of app
[15:10] <jonaskoelker> kevdog: (oh, right, ubuntu doesn't use xterm by default... *sigh*... I forgetted...)
[15:10] <elad`> I've installed fs-driver on my WinXP, and it has assigned drive letters to my Ext2 partitions, but when I try to access those partitions, WinXP tells me they're not formatted, and asks me if I want to format them.
[15:11] <jonaskoelker> kevdog: what's the exit status of the first command?
[15:11] <kevdog> jonaskoeller: How do I get that?
[15:11] <jonaskoelker> kevdog: aptitude upsomething; echo $?
[15:11] <AmbrNewlearner> elad`: this had happened with me previously a few times...
[15:11] <B9> danbhfive: thanx for F11 that is WONDERFUL. I have just been playing around with Kate, if I can figure out how to make the background blue and text white in Kate I will be VERY happy.
[15:11] <AmbrNewlearner> elad`: try rebooting XP and then reassign drive letters and rebooting again
[15:11] <chazco> Are some machines just not compatible with apt-get? I have a laptop that always gives a "corrupted filesystem tarfile" error, or similar, when i try to use apt. It has survived many full reinstalls. The HDD and RAM are fine...
[15:12] <wearetherock> Window XP not recognize Ext file system
[15:12] <jonaskoelker> kevdog: you probably want sudo bash, then aptitude update; echo $?
[15:12] <AmbrNewlearner> elad`: This is not full proof way to do this but this works
[15:12] <jonaskoelker> kevdog: to not confuse bash between the status of sudo and that of aptitude
[15:12] <elad`> AmbrNewlearner: Eh, I'll try, but that's pretty much what I've just tried.
[15:12] <kevdog> jonaskoeller: I get 255
[15:12] <Guest80096> en español pleas
[15:13] <alberto2684> alguien en español
[15:13] <elad`> Nope, I can't reassign the drive letter - unknown partition.
[15:13] <jonaskoelker> kevdog: that's interesting
[15:13] <kevdog> I think I might have found the source of the error:  Err http://apt.wicd.net intrepid/extras Packages
[15:13] <kevdog>   404 Not Found
[15:13] <danbhfive> chazco: I doubt that is possible.  Apt-get is essential to install
[15:13] <sipior> !es > alberto2684
[15:13] <rasiq> alberto2684 join #ubuntu-es
[15:14] <jonaskoelker> kevdog: does your aptitude man page say anything about what the exit status of aptitude means?
[15:14] <jonaskoelker> kevdog: (mine doesn't, but I don't know which version you have)
[15:14] <chazco> danbhfive - I would have thought so too... I can install Ubuntu from a CD, but apt-get doesnt seem to ever work... i've no idea why
[15:14] <AmbrNewlearner> Any ideas about how to recover deleted files/directories from ext2/ext3 partitions?
[15:14] <jonaskoelker> kevdog: 255 usually means something bad happened.  In any case, if you run commands "a && b", b will only run if a has exit status 0
[15:14] <jonaskoelker> (by definition of "&&")
[15:14] <danbhfive> AmbrNewlearner: I think there is a program called e2undel
[15:15] <sipior> AmbrNewlearner: http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html
[15:15] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  How do I make the update manager not pop up when I don't want it?
[15:15] <elad`> AmbrNewlearner: Oh, I mounted it read-only, and the faq tells me that's often the cause of the problem. Doesn't tell me how to fix it, though.
[15:16] <danbhfive> fission6: why do you want to do that?
[15:16] <kevdog> I think the wicd repository is bad -- I guess I could just run with the & instead of the && so that the second command would run despite errors
[15:16] <AmbrNewlearner> danbhfive and sipior: ty...I'll have a look
[15:16] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[15:17] <SpaceBass> feel silly with this one but...
[15:17] <elad`> brb
[15:17] <danbhfive> kevdog: I would use ;      what is an &?  I thought that backgrounds a process
[15:17] <SpaceBass> I have a fresh install of 9.04 desktop that I'm using to demo a local install of wordpress - I cannot view the site from any other machines on the same subnet, ssh works fine
[15:17] <SpaceBass> does the desktop install have a firewall on by default?
[15:18] <fission6> danbhfive: because iw ant to be able to write to /var/www under a different user than root
[15:18] <sirhalos> Hi I have Ubuntu Server 9.04 running on a server I'm trying to install a minimal X server. I installed x11-common but it wasn't enough to start up X. Went ahead and installed x11-apps or whatever it was that gives you xterm, xclock, etc. Am I missing anything? I just want X-Window running the default twm.
[15:18] <sipior> SpaceBass: it shouldn't, no.
[15:18] <kavon> How could I control which battery to discharge on my laptop? I looked around in /proc and /sys a little and can't find anything i can change with echo >
[15:18] <danbhfive> fission6: well, it's probably better to just create a folder under /var/www with the permissions you want.  Actually, I'm not sure that works?
[15:19] <AmbrNewlearner> elad`: I dont remember anything about how to give it write permission since I formatted my XP almost a year ago
[15:19] <quake_guy> SpaceBass I installed firestarter. easy to use
[15:19] <lrdofnightmares> Hi guys!! sup??, i have a problem with the wireless internet of my desktop computer, i tryed to use ndiswrapper but i don't know if what i did was right, can someone please help me???
[15:19] <fission6> great
[15:19] <AmbrNewlearner> elad`: Have you seen this? http://www.fs-driver.org/troubleshoot.html
[15:19] <contrast> Greets, everyone...
[15:19] <contrast> I'm about to defrag a couple of 1TB XFS partitions. After much googling, I think I have all the information I need, but I want to be 110% sure that it's safe to do this on filesystems which are currently mounted as readable *and* _writable_. Anyone have any experience in this department?
[15:20] <jonaskoelker> contrast: you could do a test run on a loopback-mounted file system?
[15:20] <charding> Hi, I've just upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 and I'm having problems with my touchpad (synaptics). I can double click and highlight a word in xterm but trying to double click a buddy in my Pidgin buddy list doesn't work. Or trying to do the same in firefox also does not work. For pidgin, it does not open the chat window, I have to click the buddy atleast three times.
[15:20] <cheater> hi guys...
[15:20] <AmbrNewlearner> Asad_away: danbhfive and sipior gave me some useful info few minutes ago here....have a look
[15:20] <cheater> i have clicked winkey+r and now my desktop is zoomed. how do i turn that off?
[15:20] <kavon> How could I control which battery to discharge on my laptop? I looked around in /proc and /sys a little and can't find anything i can change with echo >
[15:20] <contrast> jonaskoelker: Umm... OK. -_~ (Imagine you're explaining that to a 5-year-old. :D )
[15:20] <jonaskoelker> cheater: what do you mean?  "How do I unzoom" or "how do I disable the keybinding"?
[15:21] <jonaskoelker> contrast: first: dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/contrast/test-run bs=$((1024*1024)) count=1000
[15:22] <cheater> jonaskoelker: how to unzoom. also, if i could find out how to add/remove such bindings, it would be real neat.
[15:22] <cheater> let's start with unzoom though :)
[15:22] <Boohbah> charding: i had the same issue
[15:22] <chazco> Since I can't use apt-get or dpkg can I merge a few applications into a liveCD on another computer and then install from that?
[15:22] <jpic> is the hdd safe when installing on usb (normal install, not live)
[15:22] <jonaskoelker> cheater: I don't know :p but the key bindings, try the system->preferences menu, look for "key<something>"
[15:22] <charding> Boohbah: please tell me I can fix it..
[15:22] <cheater> i figured it out
[15:23] <cheater> what win-r does is it zooms so that the current window takes up maximum screen space.
[15:23] <cheater> so if i click on the desktop and press win-r then it will zoom the whole desktop = 100% zoom = what i want:)
[15:24] <cheater> jonaskoelker: that was very very helpful - thanks!
[15:25] <jonaskoelker> cheater: yw :)
[15:25] <whiter> hello, i have a problem. im trying to install firefox-3.5 (the package) but when i do my firefox is still 3.0.
[15:26] <whiter> i even did 'apt-get remove firefox-3.0' then 'apt-get install firefox-3.5' and i still have version 3.0 after that
[15:26] <willis1> whiter:  check the menus for  'shirtko' thats FF3.5
[15:26] <willis1> !ff3.5
[15:26] <contrast> cheater: Win-key + mouse wheel up/down also. And to change all the bindings to your heart's content, install the package "compizconfig-settings-manager"
[15:26] <willis1> whiter:  with both installed.. you have 2 icons one for 3 one for 3.5
[15:26] <whiter> what im saying is i dont have 3.5 on here
[15:27] <cheater> contrast: great! thanks a lot mate :)
[15:27] <willis1> whiter:  Look in the menus for an icon called 'Shiretoko' tat will be firefox 3.5
[15:27] <mikeyyy> hey all
[15:27] <mikeyyy> i got problem here
[15:27] <whiter> oh i see
[15:27] <skione> hi folks, I was doing some work with Likewise and sso; I tried to remove it and now I broke ubuntu. I need to restore authentication to the default mechanism, any help or walk throughs you can offer?
[15:28] <whiter> why is it called Shiretoko?
[15:28] <mikeyyy> when i try to move my files from ntfs partition, i cancel the progress. To my surprise, some of the files are missing. Im using ubuntu 9.04
[15:28] <mikeyyy> can any1 tell me where did that files go
[15:28] <contrast> cheater: no prob, just don't waste countless hours in that program like i have. :P
[15:28] <Aison> are there some 32bit Qt libraries for ubuntu 64bit?
[15:29] <moreia> I installed a kernel update on ~Monday and I'm getting a lot of weird behavior. Can't submit in Firefox, can't edit addons in Firefox or Thunderbird, and my file navigator and system monitor report no space in /boot when "df -h" says /boot is only 42% full
[15:29] <mo0nykit> I have just installed the rutebook. How do I access it?
 you cannot chmod a file on VFAT disk/partition to be non-executable.
[15:30] <cheater> contrast: thanks :)
[15:30] <charding> Boohbah: ??
[15:30] <cheater> contrast, jonaskoelker: i'm afraid mod4+r is not listed in the 'keyboard shortcuts' list
[15:30] <skione> so can anyone please help me restore ubuntus authentication to its default state?
[15:30] <Idioteque>  <ice_cream>: you cannot chmod a file on VFAT disk/partition to be non-executable.
[15:30] <Idioteque> ?
[15:30] <Idioteque> why so?
[15:31] <Aison> im searching for a 32bit libQtWebKit.so
[15:31] <jonaskoelker> cheater: are you running compiz?  Try looking in ccsm
[15:32] <contrast> cheater: It should be under the Enhanced Desktop Zoom plugin's settings (in the Accessibility category).
[15:32] <AmbrNewlearner> mo0nykit : have a look: http://www.nabble.com/using-rutebook-td19023655.html
[15:33] <ice_cream> ic
[15:33] <xukun> is there a less security risk way of reaching my home ubuntu pc from the internet? por-forwarding is to risky I read
[15:33] <cheater> contrast: ifby 'category' you mean one of those windows you can 'open' on the list of actions, then i only get sound, desktop, window management, and custom shortcuts
[15:34] <skione> xukun: port forwarding is only risky in the sense you expose your computer to the wide open internet. Make sure you use strong passwords and only have the ports open that you need. I actually recommend using ssh tunnels for access
[15:34] <haytham-med> hi all, can i remove the configuration (to return to default) from a certain program without removing the program itself?
[15:35] <beer__> see $HOME/.program_name
[15:35] <jordo2323> When you setup VNC through Gnome in Ubuntu jaunty which server does it use by default?
[15:36] <skione> xerver I believe
[15:36] <skione> xserver
[15:36] <haytham-med> beer__: ok thx
[15:36] <xukun> skione, thanks I will read more on that
[15:36] <willis1> jordo2323:  its using its own gnome version. I think its called 'vino' Unless ive miss read what ive read about it..
[15:36] <haytham-med> so what is the command: rm /home/.programname
[15:36] <haytham-med> ?
[15:36] <Boohbah> charding: fall back to using the button to click instead of the touchpad...
[15:37] <willis1> haytham-med:  depends on what settings and what program you are talking about
[15:37] <contrast> cheater: Erm, not sure what you're looking at. Have you already installed the package I mentioned?
[15:37] <willis1> haytham-med:  not all programs use ~/.programname any more
[15:37] <jordo2323> willis1, I have installed tightvnc, and I think I can connect, but my password never works.  How do you tell if tight vnc is running through command line?
[15:37] <charding> Boohbah: ok, thanks for your intuitive help..
[15:37] <beer__> hayham-med: right
[15:38] <elad`> How do I mount the only HDD when running in LiveCD Mode?
[15:38] <gilonix> someone have experience with Asus UL30A and ubuntu?
[15:38] <willis1> jordo2323:  you Have to run tightvncserver (via 'vncserver' command and set up a vncpassword to use it.. Teres 2 ways vnc can work. Share the CURRENT desktop.. or create a 'hidden' desktop TightVnc creates a sweperate hidden desktoop. It does NOT share the current desktop
[15:38] <mo0nykit> AmbrNewlearner, thanks for the link! it's at /usr/share/doc/rutebook/
[15:39] <skione> ok trying once more and hoping; anyone have experience with ubuntu's authentication mechanism?
[15:40] <haytham-med> ok another question, if i faced i problem with compiz , i remove its configuration by this command rm/home/.compiz ?
[15:40] <elad`> Never mind, new question - how do I check a HDD for defects? Bad sectors?
[15:40] <haytham-med> rm /home/user/.compiz
[15:41] <Dr_Willis> haytham-med:  see if theres a .compiz directory. the settings may not be in there.  the #compiz channel will proberly know exactly where the settings are at.
[15:41] <haytham-med> there is a directory
[15:41] <beer__> rm -rf
[15:42] <bullgard4> [GNOME] When I click on Places > Computer, Nautilus will appear with "Location:=computer:///". Where is this location to be found in the filesystem of my computer?
[15:42] <haytham-med> ok thx Dr_Willis
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> haytham-med:  and looking in that diorectory shows just a 'session'  dir/file here..  thats not all the settings I imagine
[15:43] <grawity> bullgard4: computer:/// is a virtual directory, it only exists inside Nautilus (the file manager program).
[15:43] <grawity> bullgard4: It consists mostly of entries from /media though.
[15:44] <MeowKItten> Hi im using gmont-iso,where would a mount a cd image if i wanted the computer to treat it like it was a CD in my CDROM drive?
[15:44] <grawity> MeowKItten: mount -o loop file.iso /mnt
[15:44] <thedancingdeer> is there any way to make .exe files outof my c/cpp sources which dont use *nix stuff?
[15:44] <cfedde> can Nautilus show NFS servers and volumes?
[15:45] <bullgard4> grawity: What configuration file will list what directories are shown in "computer:///"?
[15:45] <grawity> thedancingdeer: There is - google for "cross-compiling on linux for windows"
[15:46] <bullgard4> grawity: s/list/determine/
[15:46] <allan8904> can ubuntu read windows dynamic volumes?
[15:46] <elad`> Never mind, new question - how do I check a HDD for defects? Bad sectors?
[15:46] <MeowKItten> grawity: fnord@fnord-desktop:~$ sudo mount -o loop /home/fnord/Icewind\ Dale\ I/CD1.cue /mnt
[15:46] <MeowKItten> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[15:47] <grawity> MeowKItten: Ah, I thought you have an .iso...
[15:47] <grawity> bullgard4: I don't know. It probably just lists all drives and removable devices.
[15:47] <johnT> elad`: apt-get install smartmontools
[15:47] <bullgard4> grawity: Thank you for commenting.
[15:48] <hwilde> what bad things will happen if I just disable the e2fsck check every 30 boots ?
[15:49] <kingofpinz> im tryign to set up unattended-upgrades , on my server . though it does not seem to be working how i make it run automatically
[15:49] <grawity> MeowKItten: You could try cdemu for .cue/.bin, or you could convert that to an ISO by using bchunk.
[15:49] <johnT> hwilde, theoretically nothing will happen, checking every 30 boots is just a good thing to be sure filesystem is always ok without loss of data
[15:49] <WXZ> I'm thinking about getting ubuntu
[15:49] <indus> WXZ, good
[15:49] <sipior> hwilde: very little. the filesystem will gradually accrue damage, though, so running every few months or so is probably wise.
[15:49] <elad`> johnT: That looks like it has something to do with mail.
[15:49] <WXZ> can I make my own metadata fields in ubuntu though?
[15:49] <indus> guys i get fsck warnings all the time
[15:49] <johnT> wilde, the routine filesystem consistency does not require much time btw
[15:50] <johnT> *consistency check, pardon
[15:50] <elad`> How do I check a HDD for defects? Bad sectors?
[15:50] <hwilde> johnT, sipior, I have an embedded system, and the customer complains this is happening very frequently due to the how often they reboot, and that it is hanging on boot requiring keyboard and monitor and user input
[15:50] <indus> elad`, windows has some good tools for it
[15:50] <indus> elad`, in linux use smartmontools
[15:50] <egomosis> indus: any idea why?
[15:50] <indus> !info smartmontools
[15:51] <indus> egomosis, i didnt get ur question
[15:51] <johnT> hwilde, you can disable or tune the 30 mount limit btyw
[15:51] <lrdofnightmares> Hi guys!! sup??, i have a problem with the wireless internet of my desktop computer, i tryed to use ndiswrapper but i don't know if what i did was right, can someone please help me???
[15:51] <elad`> Then why does the installation ask me about SMTP?
[15:52] <thedancingdeer> grawity: thanks! :) gcc they say supports it! working on it!
[15:52] <egomosis> indus: why you get disk errors, I've run ubuntu on a bunch of different systems and beat the crap out of it, never had any errors...just wondering what would cause your errors
[15:52] <hwilde> johnT, sipior,  the way I see it, they are not gracefully shutting down, they are just killing power.   and they are doing it hundreds of times.  this will eventually corrupt the flashcard.  what if I make the whole filesystem readonly ?
[15:52] <indus> egomosis, probably failing hdd
[15:52] <elad`> Ah, fuck it. How do I just write zeroes to the HDD?
[15:52] <indus> and i dont beat the c**p out of it either
[15:52] <sipior> hwilde: if it's a chronic problem, you might look into what sort of damage fsck is trying to repair. if they are just cutting the power, tell them not to do that :-)
[15:53] <elad`> And please don't give me that /dev/zero method that never terminates.
[15:53] <Pici> !language | elad`
[15:53] <johnT> hwilde, not sure I understood well: do you want to make the root filesystem readonly? or simply a non-root partition?
[15:53] <egomosis> indus: oh, that makes sense... k
[15:54] <defcon> #remote-exploit
[15:54] <elad`> Sorry.
[15:54] <frostburn> what's a good avant window manager replacement?
[15:54] <johnT> elad`: why zero your hd? if your concern are bad sectors, simply do a complete format
[15:54] <hwilde> sipior, johnT,  the assumption was that the biggest risk to the filesystem is cutting power during write cycles, so what if the filesystme is read-only, then they can cut power with less risk and e2fsck won't delay on boot
[15:55] <johnT> hwilde: yeah, but the root filesystem can't be made read-only, it simply won't work
[15:55] <elad`> johnT: I'm taking it back to the store. I want to erase my data first.
[15:55] <johnT> elad`: don't zero it then, it's highly unsafe
[15:55] <hwilde> johnT, sure it will, with tmfps
[15:55] <elad`> johnT: Unsafe?!
[15:55] <sipior> elad`: don't just write zeroes, then. search for a secure disk wiping utility and use that.
[15:55] <johnT> elad`: yeah, you need a WIPE, not a ZERo
[15:56] <johnT> !wipe
[15:56] <johnT> elad`: there is a 'wipe' packet
[15:56] <hwilde> !shred
[15:56] <hwilde> elad`, you are looking for the command shred
[15:57] <savid> Hi, I'm getting a weird error when running apt-get update:  http://dpaste.com/94386/    It's just saying "Illegal instructionts... 0%"
[15:57] <sipior> elad`: if you're looking to wipe a system, try here: http://www.dban.org/
[15:57] <mo0nykit> I try to mount a CD, but I get the following error: 'mount: unknown filesystem 'iso9660''. What could be wrong here? Should filesystem support be compiled into the kernel?
[15:58] <johnT> elad`: try wipe btw
[15:58] <elad`> wipe?
[15:58] <hwilde> mo0nykit, what is the exact command you are using
[15:59] <elad`> I can't apt-get it.
[15:59] <chazco> Hi... libc6 wont upgrade, how can I clear it and try again? This is on the machine that apt-get usually fails on
[15:59] <johnT> elad`: it overwrites the data many times. takes a lot, but it is far more secure than a simple zero
[15:59] <egomosis> does anyone have any ideas on how to make multiple program launches use the same firefox? ie: I from terminal, launcher and deskbar-applet? They seem to open different profiles or something, even though all are accessing firefox-3.5
[15:59] <elad`> Excuse my language again, but it's never been proven that a single wipe isn't enough. No drive has ever been recovered from a single wipe of zeros yet.
[16:00] <elad`> Oh, I did manage to keep the word "bullshit" out of it. What do you know?
[16:00] <johnT> elad`: it depends on how much you are paranoid :)
[16:00] <elad`> I'm not paranoid. So, how do I write zeros?
[16:00] <lax> anyone have any experience with "crossroads/xr load balance"
[16:00] <eolo999> hi, i have gnome 2.27.9? installed and purged pulseaudio  (don't want my cpu boiled by a 100% process!) but i cannot  find a way to have a volume-control applet of any kind.  Someone can suggest me a solution?
[16:00] <hwilde> elad`, man shred
[16:00] <elad`> To the entire HDD (not just any given partitions), once, with it stopping when it terminates.
[16:00] <mo0nykit> hwilde, mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom (This is actually a debootstrap installation, meant for diskless node boot-up using TFTP and NFS. Anyway, the point is this is just a base system install, so I think there is no support for iso9660 yet. How do I get it?)
[16:00] <Pici> eolo999 : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[16:01] <elad`> hwilde: The entire hdd?
[16:01] <eolo999> Pici: thx
[16:01] <lax> what software can you guys suggest for load balancing windows TS
[16:01] <johnT> elad`: do you thing that 'multipass wiping' would exist if one single zero-pass would be sufficient? :)
[16:01] <hwilde> mo0nykit, so you're not using ubuntu?
[16:01] <chazco> Hi... libc6 wont upgrade, how can I clear it and try again? I'm getting the usual "corrupted package archive" message.
[16:01] <elad`> johnT: Yes. People are paranoid. Not all the facts make it all the way through to every person.
[16:01] <Guest91683> can someone help me for a sec
[16:02] <Guest91683> i did apt-get upgrade
[16:02] <mo0nykit> hwilde, I'm using ubuntu (I forgot to mention that. It's an ubuntu base system)
[16:02] <Guest91683> but it says ::::   E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[16:02] <hwilde> mo0nykit, ubuntu supports iso9660
[16:02] <Guest91683> how do i do that
[16:02] <Pici> Guest91683: run sudo dpkg --configure -a in a terminal.
[16:02] <lax> what application do you guys use for load balancing 3+ servers
[16:02] <johnT> elad`: I suggest you this brief lecture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_remanence
[16:02] <Guest91683> thx
[16:03] <dojo> is there a way to get tsclient to not show the desktop background of the pc you are connecting through for VNC?
[16:03] <dojo> i can't find an option for it
[16:03] <Guest91683> what caused this do u know and what did this command do
[16:03] <lax> has anyone in here ever used crossroads load balancer
[16:03] <elad`> johnT: Irrelevant. I didn't say deletion, I said overwriting with zeros.
[16:03] <Guest91683> just unpack whatever
[16:03] <elad`> johnT: Meaning to say, once is quite enough.
[16:03] <Ziber> I'm trying to set up UnrealIRCd on 9.04, and I'm getting dependency errors about libssl. Any ideas?
[16:03] <mo0nykit> hwilde, I'm doing it in a VirtualBox. Will it make a difference over doing it with a real PC?
[16:03] <johnT> elad`: If you think so, then the /dev/zero suggestion you received is the quickest way
[16:04] <treyh> has anyone ever used Crossroads Load Balancer?
[16:04] <johnT> but elad`, let me suggest to use /dev/urandom at least ;)
[16:04] <hwilde> mo0nykit,  mount -V      what version do you have
[16:04] <Ziber> I'm trying to set up UnrealIRCd on 9.04, and I'm getting dependency errors about libssl. Any ideas?
[16:04] <johnT> elad`, let me suggest to use /dev/urandom at least
[16:05] <nyk2005> Does someone know a program to classify short (2sec) audio samples (of enviromental sounds)?
[16:06] <Guest91683> one more question hhaha never ends with this linux problems
[16:06] <Ziber> I'm trying to set up UnrealIRCd on 9.04, and I'm getting dependency errors about libssl. Any ideas?
[16:06] <Guest91683> i need to rename or move /lib/modules/kernel  or name it kernel.old but it wont let me to install the new kernel
[16:06] <banks> hello
[16:06] <adolfon5> good morning
[16:06] <jordo2323> Is there a way to turn off Ubuntu Jaunty's default GNOME VNC via command line so I can switch to tightvnc?
[16:06] <adolfon5> i have a problem with ubuntu
[16:06] <banks> anyone on a wireles connection here?
[16:06] <lslls> http://hostjury.com/blog/view/195/the-great-zero-challenge-remains-unaccepted
[16:06] <adolfon5> anyone can help me plz?
[16:07] <johnT> adolfon5, just ask
[16:07] <mtlguardian> yes me on wireless
[16:07] <Ziber> anyone... ?
[16:07] <elad``> http://hostjury.com/blog/view/195/the-great-zero-challenge-remains-unaccepted
[16:07] <banks> did u set up ur wireless on ubuntu?
[16:07] <mtlguardian> on my ps3 too
[16:07] <adolfon5> i donwloaded ubuntu desktop 9.04
[16:07] <Pici> !who
[16:07] <mtlguardian> no much to setup
[16:07] <adolfon5> but for some reason i cant install it
[16:07] <banks> can u help me with mine
[16:07] <kingofpinz> !unattened-upgrades
[16:07] <adolfon5> i burned the disk with 8x
[16:07] <mtlguardian> wireless has a bug though
[16:08] <Ziber> anyone properly install libssl on 9.04?
[16:08] <mtlguardian> simeple fix
[16:08] <johnT> adolfon5: how did you try to install it? did you reboot pc?
[16:08] <Pici> !enter | mtlguardian adolfon5
[16:08] <banks> how do u fix
[16:08] <Guest91683> pici can u give me a hand 1 more time real quick
[16:08] <adolfon5> yes i rebooted and appear the lenguage options and install
[16:08] <Glaedr> hi
[16:08] <Pici> Guest91683: Depends what the question is.
[16:08] <johnT> adolfon5: then?
[16:08] <mtlguardian> uncheck enable wireless
[16:08] <adolfon5> but then just appear Loading...  Please wait
[16:08] <mo0nykit> hwilde, mount from util-linux-ng 2.14.2 (with libvolume_id and selinux support)
[16:08] <banks> ok
[16:08] <adolfon5> and thats all
[16:08] <egomosis> Glaedr: Hi
[16:08] <mtlguardian> then recheck it
[16:08] <Glaedr> I can't change my gtk theme...
[16:08] <adolfon5> i was waiting for 30 mins
[16:08] <mtlguardian> and it should work
[16:08] <hwilde> mo0nykit, that should support iso9660
[16:09] <adolfon5> and nothing
[16:09] <chazco> Sorry, got disconnected. I cleared all the packages out and re-downloaded them... and now a different set of packages refuses to install. I'm guessing this machine just cant be used with Ubuntu :(
[16:09] <banks> ok
[16:09] <jordo2323> How do you start a tightvnc server via commandline?
[16:09] <adolfon5> i tried install it from windows xp
[16:09] <hwilde> chazco, does the livecd work ?
[16:09] <johnT> adolfon5: can't you get any error message?
[16:09] <urthmover> XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0" after 43 requests (43 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[16:09] <banks> well nothing seems to b happening
[16:09] <chazco> hwilde - Yes, but you cant install stuff to it
[16:09] <adolfon5> no no
[16:09] <adolfon5> just appear that
[16:09] <urthmover> How do I wipe clean my xorg config and start fresh?
[16:09] <Guest91683> ok now that i ahve done apt-get dist-upgrade i have /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>  and the same thing but <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:09] <egomosis> Glaedr: more input please. What happens when you try and change it, what steps are you taking?
[16:09] <adolfon5> nothing about a Grub error or something
[16:09] <hwilde> chazco, if the livecd works then that system runs ubuntu fine
[16:09] <friendishan> my firefox is geting weird please help me and i don't want to lose any bookmarks,plugins,add-ons,etc and it isn't saving any history and changing the links of all new bookmarks
[16:09] <adolfon5> its really weir
[16:09] <johnT> adolfon5: already did a cd-check?
[16:09] <Pici> adolfon5: Please prefix your messages with the person's name you are responding and don't press enter between every three words. Thanks.
[16:09] <adolfon5> yes
[16:10] <adolfon5> i tried with 3 different drivers
[16:10] <chazco> hwilde - But you can't upgrade/install anything... no matter how many reinstalls i've done of Ubuntu (ie, blank the HDD) i still get dpkg errors
[16:10] <Guest91683> now it says when i try to apt-get upgrade that i have to move or rename <IP_ADDRESS>/kernel.old
[16:10] <Glaedr> egomosis » simply nothing, just the key in gconf
[16:10] <Guest91683> but it wont let me
[16:10] <johnT> adolfon5: let me understand: its the live cd that won't load or the installed ubuntu on your hard disk?
[16:10] <Glaedr> egomosis » whatever tool I use
[16:10] <chazco> hwilde - Though i suppose, technically, it is running Ubuntu
[16:10] <adolfon5> exactly
[16:10] <johnT> adolfon5: exactly = the latter?
[16:10] <urthmover> How do I start with a fresh clean xorg.config without reinstalling the entire system?
[16:11] <hwilde> chazco, you are doing something wrong then...  if you install from the livecd, and you have internet, then you can install and upgrade things fine.  everybody does it
[16:11] <Pici> Guest91683: Are you running Ubuntu? We don't ship 2.6.30.x in any release.
[16:11] <friendishan> !patience
[16:11] <Glaedr> egomosis » no output if I run these by terminal
[16:11] <bakarat> how easy is it these days to get three monitors going on an ati card? i'm thinking of updating my hardware a bit, but i'd rather know up front if it's doable
[16:11] <gerald> hi, the HD in my laptop seems to be spinning up/down nonstop, several times per minute. Anyone know how I can debug why it's doing that?
[16:11] <Glaedr> egomosis » (these tools)
[16:11] <hwilde> urthmover, if you delete xorg.conf it will regenerate a failsafe one for you
[16:11] <friendishan>  to lose any bookmarks,plugins,add-ons,etc and it isn't saving any history and changing the links of all new bookmarks
[16:11] <chazco> hwilde - But not on this machine... all my others work fine. There is something about that laptop that just makes it not work
[16:11] <Guest91683> debian ubuntu im sure
[16:11] <egomosis> hm
[16:11] <Guest91683> how do i check
[16:11] <Guest91683> model
[16:11] <johnT> gerald, try tail -f /var/log/dmesg
[16:11] <urthmover> hwilde: great I'll do that now thanks
[16:11] <Pici> Guest91683: Debian and Ubuntu are two different things.  Type: lsb_release -a
[16:11] <mo0nykit> hwilde, mount: unknown filesystem type 'iso9660'        let me try another approach, does filesystem support have something to do with the kernel? or with mount? if it is with the kernel, how do I see which filesystems it supports (config files, etc)?
[16:11] <banks> anyone kno how to fix the wireless on ubuntu
[16:12] <gerald> johnT, nothing interesting in dmesg or other logs
[16:12] <adolfon5> i put the disk in the drive and appear the lenguage options and install option
[16:12] <friendishan> my firefox is geting weird please help me and i don't want to lose any bookmarks,plugins,add-ons,etc and it isn't saving any history and changing the links of all new bookmarks
[16:12] <DJones> !wifi | banks
[16:12] <hwilde> mo0nykit, type "man mount"  scroll down to the part about types.  it should list a bunch, including iso9660
[16:12] <Glaedr> egomosis » it had happened since I installed gtk-chtheme
[16:12] <adolfon5> then a screen loading... plz wait
[16:12] <Rods_Tiger> is there a popular document that anyone can recommend to help transition from gentoo to ubuntu without chasing around all over the place looking for bits and pieces
[16:12] <johnT> gerald, if SMART is ok, I guess its related to powersaving. turn off powersaving
[16:12] <adolfon5> no error message
[16:12] <Guest91683> No LSB modules are available.
[16:12] <Guest91683> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[16:12] <Guest91683> Description:    Ubuntu 8.10
[16:12] <Guest91683> Release:        8.10
[16:12] <Guest91683> Codename:       intrepid
[16:12] <FloodBot2> Guest91683: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:12] <Guest91683> ups sorry
[16:12] <banks> thanks for the link il check it
[16:13] <gerald> johnT, do you know how I can check various SMART things? (drive stats etc?) I tried apt-cache search but didn't find anything
[16:13] <Pici> Guest91683: Intrepid ships with 2.6.27, how are you running 2.6.30?
[16:13] <johnT> adolfon5: try to run the live (without installing it) on another computer. I feel like your iso is corrupted.
[16:13] <johnT> gerald, try smartmontools packet
[16:13] <kingofpinz> i added this to /etc/cron.daily apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get autoclean >> /tmp/log will it work to auto upgrade ?
[16:13] <adolfon5> ok let me try then
[16:13] <egomosis> Glaedr: let me experiment for a moment
[16:13] <adolfon5> thanks ill be back
[16:13] <Guest91683> is there something were i can show u screen shots
[16:13] <Glaedr> egomosis » some other times, removing gtk-chtheme, the problem was gone, but not this time...even updating the version of ubuntu nothing happens...have I to reconfigure anything?
[16:13] <ioka> hello guys
[16:13] <Glaedr> egomosis » sure, thx
[16:13] <gerald> johnT, thanks! (ah, the package desc has it spelled S.M.A.R.T. which is why I didn't find it)
[16:14] <ioka> how to kill process?
[16:14] <Pici> kingofpinz: No, apt-get upgrade is an interactive application.
[16:14] <ioka> kill -9 PID
[16:14] <johnT> ioka, killall processname  , or kill (pid)
[16:14] <ioka> does not work
[16:14] <adolfon5> btw im installed from windows options
[16:14] <friendishan> does anyone know answer to my question?
[16:14] <adolfon5> and this did it success
[16:14] <Pici> Guest91683: Can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[16:14] <ioka> does not work
[16:14] <adolfon5> but when this ask me for reboot i said yes
[16:14] <Guest91683> k how do i pastbin
[16:14] <adolfon5> and appear the grub option
[16:14] <kingofpinz> Pici, there no a option for it to accept everything ?
[16:14] <adolfon5> windows or ubuntu
[16:14] <Pici> !pastebin | Guest91683
[16:15] <adolfon5> i choose ubuntu and again loading... pls wait
[16:15] <Pici> kingofpinz: There are, but they are not reccomended. See the apt-get manpage for the specifics.
[16:15] <Pici> !who | adolfon5
[16:15] <johnT> adolfon5: what hardware are you running?
[16:15] <chazco> As a matter of interest then... if dpkg always fails on a given machine (usually with some sort of corrupt archive message), with the problems surviving full system clean reinstalls, on multiple wired and wireless networks, with different HDDs and RAM tried... what is it likely to be?
[16:15] <friendishan> anyone?
[16:16] <Pici> friendishan: I'd start with a fresh profile and see if the problem persists.
[16:16] <friendishan> Pici: i did not get you?
[16:16] <kingofpinz> Pici, ok found the -y option why would you not recommend it ?
[16:17] <Tamale> hi, when I put a DVD-RW in my cdrom drive, I get an error that says "Cannot mount volume. You are not privileged to mount the volume <cd name>"..  how do I fix this so I can wipe the dvd and burn a new iso to it?
[16:17] <Glaedr> egomosis » I reconfigured libgkt2.0-0, I'm trying to restart X
[16:17] <Guest91683> http://paste.ubuntu.com/272179/
[16:17] <Guest91683> tell me what u think
[16:17] <Glaedr> egomosis » back soon
[16:17] <CHANDRU> is there any software for auto net connecting when disconnected
[16:17] <egomosis> Glaedr: have you tried using the regular appearances tab since you've instald gtk-chtheme?
[16:18] <Glaedr> egomosis » yes, of course...
[16:18] <hiyaboy> my firefox is geting weird please help me and i don't want to lose any bookmarks,plugins,add-ons,etc and it isn't saving any history and changing the links of all new bookmarks
[16:18] <mo0nykit> hwilde, i saw iso9660 in the man pages, still fail. here are commands which i have tried http://paste.ubuntu.com/272181/
[16:18] <Pici> kingofpinz: Because sometimes apt-get can suggest doing things that might not be a good idea.  I prefer to see what it wants to do before I say yes to do it.
[16:18] <johnT> Tamale, try mounting with sudo
[16:18] <Tamale> johnT: How would I do that?
[16:19] <egomosis> Glaedr: just checking, take your time
[16:19] <Glaedr> egomosis » infact, the other times, the theme could be changed only by gtk-chtheme, this time neither can it
[16:19] <Pici> Guest91683: It looks like you're running Backtrack.  We do not support that here, please use their support channel: #remote-exploit
[16:19] <johnT> Tamale: for example,    sudo mount /dev/sr0
[16:19] <benc> is there a tutorial or documentation how to write init.d script that run on boot?
[16:19] <Guest91683> i cant they were being stupid one day and band me over some question i asked
[16:19] <Guest91683> i ahve never been able to go back
[16:19] <johnT> tamale, alternatively just run your cd burning program from root (f.e:    sudo brasero
[16:19] <Guest91683> i figure ubuntu is ubuntu
[16:19] <hwilde> mo0nykit, try   mount -t udf,iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[16:19] <Tamale> JohnT: Ok, that worked, but when I try to blank it it says "you are not priviledged to unmount"
[16:20] <contrast> benc: I've got one handy, i can pastebin it for you. one sec...
[16:20] <Pici> Guest91683: Its not. No Ubuntu releases even used 2.6.30
[16:20] <benc> contrast: thanks
[16:20] <johnT> tamale, run the whole program from sudo
[16:20] <Guest91683> ok
[16:20] <Tamale> ok, I found the blank option in brasero
[16:20] <Tamale> supposedly, it worked
[16:20] <Guest91683> but there is no way to just delete that file
[16:20] <johnT> Tamale: do you use brasero? then sudo brasero should fix ;)
[16:20] <mo0nykit> hwilde, okay i'll try that
[16:20] <Guest91683> i says i cant thats what im trying to do
[16:20] <Guest91683> sudo rmdir .../kernel
[16:21] <johnT> tamale, of course its possible to tell the os to mount and umount cd drives without those privileges, but the 'sudo' trick will solve quickier
[16:21] <Guest91683> then i can update since its in the way that or however u rename it kernel.old
[16:21] <mo0nykit> hwilde, still the same error
[16:21] <Moon_Doggy> how do i enable my wireless card using fluxbox or terminal
[16:21] <Tamale> johnT: Thanks.. it looks like it's working.  I'm just frustrated that you have to use sudo just to use your cdrom drive.  It's not a pretty user experience.
[16:22] <IdleOne> Guest91683: We can not help you. check and see if they have a forum you can ask for help on
[16:22] <Guest91683> what is the command to rename a dir again
[16:22] <Pici> Guest91683: Like I said, you aren't using Ubuntu, no Ubuntu package upgrade would ever tell you to do that manually. You need to speak to the Backtrack people on how they want your to do that for their packages.
[16:22] <johnT> tamale, Windows UAC isn't less painful :)
[16:22] <contrast> benc: http://pastebin.ca/1568425
[16:22] <Tamale> UAC doesn't pop up when you put in a CD
[16:22] <Guest91683> ok thx anyways
[16:22] <hiyaboy> my firefox is geting weird please help me and i don't want to lose any bookmarks,plugins,add-ons,etc and it isn't saving any history and changing the links of all new bookmarks
[16:22] <johnT> tamale, running ubuntu 9.04?
[16:22] <ioka> everything is so difficult in linux
[16:23] <Tamale> yes
[16:23] <ioka> I tired
[16:23] <kingofpinz> Pici, Would you recommend i use aptitude instead ?
[16:23] <cbutler> Moon_doggy: you could try ifconfig eth1 up
[16:23] <cbutler>  iwconfig eth1 essid "ESSID_NAME" key<PHONE_NUMBER>
[16:23] <cbutler> dhclient eth1
[16:23] <johnT> ioka, you are not forced to use linux
[16:23] <Tamale> and ugh, it's still not burning the iso. It's stuck at creating image checksum
[16:23] <Allie_Albatross> I want to ditch windows and my current machine, I want to build a machine solely for Linux, how would I go about doing this? I understand certain hardware doesn't work well in Linux sometimes.
[16:23] <hwilde> mo0nykit, sudo modprobe iso9660
[16:23] <benc> contrast: thanks
[16:23] <hiyaboy> will anyone help me please?
[16:23] <jshultz> if your hardware is fairly new ubuntu should work with no problems.
[16:23] <cagonto> online boxing game http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html
[16:24] <Pici> kingofpinz: I personally don't like any automatic upgrades.  apt-get and aptitude are the same in this respect, its up to you if you want to do it or not.
[16:24] <johnT> tamale, is it really stuck?
[16:24] <mo0nykit> hwilde, FATAL: module iso9660 not found.
[16:24] <cbutler> hiyaboy: wierd how?
[16:24] <jshultz> even my costco bought hp dv7 1273cl works.
[16:24] <quake_guy> Tamale, I had problems with Brasero as well. It kept crashing on my even after reinstall. I switched to K3B and it works great.
[16:24] <contrast> benc: np. sorry for the sloppiness of that post - it's literally c&p'd straight from an old irc log, just with the name taken out. it's always worked well for me though... out of curiosity, what exactly are you setting up an init script to do?
[16:24] <Tamale> JohnT: there's no activity in 'top'
[16:24] <hiyaboy> cbustler: it dosen't get any new history and automatically changes all the bookmarks location to google or the recently visited page
[16:24] <johnT> tamale, not sure if its a personal luck, but I mount\umount dvd's without root privileges and brasero works great even without sudo
[16:25] <Moon_Doggy> cbutler eth1 doesn't exist neither does eth0
[16:25] <benc> contrast: I want to run an erlang application as a daemon on boot
[16:25] <Tamale> johnT: well, luck shouldn't have anything to do with it.  You shouldn't need to be root just to burn a dvd
[16:25] <hwilde> mo0nykit, hmmm very strange brb
[16:25] <cbutler> hiyaboy: There is a setting in FF that will auto clear history on closing the windows...might want to check that
[16:25] <johnT> tamale, I don't have to do so, and I have a pretty default ubuntu configuration
[16:26] <johnT> tamale, so I guess its simply your configuration
[16:26] <hiyaboy> cbustler: nope not that
[16:26] <mo0nykit> hwilde, sure np
[16:26] <Tamale> johnT: but maybe I'm having especially bad luck.. like I said, it's still not working, not even as root.  The blank command supposedly worked, but it's still 'creating image checksum'
[16:26] <johnT> tamale, try k3b and see if you get the same problems
[16:26] <kingofpinz> Pici, ok , i need help with the script though i want it to grep to a file in /tmp or idealy a email , telling me it updated , here current script http://pastebin.com/m550a576a
[16:27] <Tamale> will do
[16:27] <johnT> tamale,
[16:27] <johnT> Tamale: sudo gedit /etc/fstab      -   pastebin it
[16:27] <Tamale> wow, 73MB install
[16:27] <IdleOne> johnT: instead of telling ioka that he is not forced to use linux you could of asked what he was finding difficult.
[16:27] <cbutler> moon_doggy: can you configure via the GUI? Does it even see the wireless card?
[16:28] <johnT> IdleOne: he said 'its everything so difficult in linux, i am tired' he didn't formulate a valid question
[16:29] <IdleOne> johnT: He is frustrated, years of using windows and then switching to linux will do that to a new user.
[16:29] <johnT> IdleOne: ok, will try to be more patient ;)
[16:29] <IdleOne> johnT: thanks :)
[16:29] <Tamale> johnT: http://pastebin.com/m3c454f95
[16:30] <Tobear> #ubuntu-fr
[16:30] <cbutler> Moon_doggy: there is a decent guide at: http://crunchbang.org/archives/2007/12/18/configure-wireless-on-the-command-line/
[16:30] <Moon_Doggy> cbutler i was able to configure with gui when i use a xfce desktop manger but know cant get back into it (switch to fluxbox)
[16:31] <johnT> Tamale: modify this line         /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 noauto 0 0    into          /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660,users,auto 0 0
[16:31] <Tobear> how connect me to french ubuntu chat please ?
[16:31] <Tamale> just auto instead of noauto?
[16:31] <johnT> Tamale, no, also added 'users' option
[16:31] <DJones> Tobear: Type "/join #ubuntu-fr" in your irc client (without the quotes)
[16:32] <Tobear> DJones, thanks and sorry for my english ;)
[16:33] <Tamale> johnT: ok, changes made.  Do I have to reboot?
[16:33] <johnT> Tamale: no, no reboot. simply close brasero, eject the cd and then repeat the operation
[16:33] <Glaedr> egomosis » I'm back...nothing
[16:33] <wanna_learn> !php
[16:34] <johnT> Tamale: this settings will allow mounting the cd\dvd without root permissions
[16:34] <pedro> hola
[16:34] <Tamale> is mine not the default?
[16:34] <johnT> Tamale: well, I don't think so. My default line for dvd drive not only includes 'users' option, but also utf-8
[16:35] <bobfox321> too many lines appear in boot with beta 9.10, cant find boot options
[16:35] <johnT> Tamale: utf8, not utf-8
[16:35] <Tamale> johnT: Interesting.. I've never changed mine.
[16:35] <Pici> bobfox321 : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[16:35] <johnT> Tamale: check if this config works as desired
[16:35] <nic1> how to the kernel?
[16:35] <Pici> kingofpinz: Sorry, work needed me for a bit.  I'm not sure what you're asking. Can you rephrase?
[16:35] <Tamale> $ mount /dev/scd0
[16:35] <Tamale> mount: only root can mount /dev/sr0 on /media/cdrom0
[16:36] <quake_guy> !guake
[16:36] <johnT> Tamale: sudo nautilus /media     check cdrom0 directory permissions
[16:36] <hiyaboy> !firefox
[16:36] <Pici> !gksudo | Tamale johnT
[16:36] <Guest69206> I'm installing eclipse.  I have a very fast connection (university pipe).  It's saying it's going to take over a day.
[16:36] <Guest69206> Is there a faster mirror I can put in my sources.list?
[16:37] <friendishan> my firefox does not store any new history please help
[16:37] <kingofpinz> Pici, No worries i sorted it , was tryign to make it out put a log file.
[16:37] <erUSUL> Guest69206: you can change your mirror in Systm>Admin>software soureces
[16:37] <Tamale> $ sudo mount /dev/scd0
[16:37] <Tamale> mount: unknown filesystem type 'auto'
[16:37] <Moon_Doggy> ok ran into another prob it using terminal it say my card does not support scanning, would it have anything to do with it using restricted drivers
[16:37] <Guest69206> erUSUL: Thanks!
[16:37] <johnT> Tamale, just a typing error
[16:38] <jordo2323> Is there a way to log a user into Gnome from an SSH Commandline connection after a reboot?
[16:38] <johnT> Tamale: the correct line should be /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 users,noauto 0 0        my mistake
[16:38] <friendishan> my firefox does not store any new history please help
[16:38] <friendishan> !volunteer
[16:38] <Glaedr> egomosis » I have more info: if I run gtk-chtheme and I try to change theme it exits whith Segmentation Fault!
[16:39] <friendishan> !patience
[16:39] <sandstrom> where is the file that holds the bash commands for shell in ubuntu server?
[16:40] <friendishan> my firefox does not store any new history please help
[16:40] <erUSUL> sandstrom: there are many shellscrits in a linux machine. what are you looking for ?
[16:40] <Glaedr> friendishan » It happened to me too...try to clean current personal datas
[16:40] <sandstrom> when I tab I have completion for a couple of commands, that I have written myself (bash) but I don't know where the file is
[16:40] <sandstrom> the file that holds them
[16:40] <friendishan> glaedr: i did that
[16:41] <egomosis> Glaedr: I unfortunately have no real ideas. although gtk-chtheme kinda messed up my theme-management as well...
[16:41] <friendishan> glaedr: did not help
[16:41] <hwilde> mo0nykit, I can't find any solution but lots of other posts with the same problem
[16:41] <pclynch247> so i've installed ov51x-jpeg drivers for my webcam and the webcams light is on. yet no picture or recognition?
[16:41] <Pici> sandstrom: bash looks in your $PATH to complete executable names.  If you're looking to extend bash-completion so that it can do argument completion see /etc/bash_completion.d/
[16:41] <Glaedr> egomosis » I also know is a local problem...other users don't have it!
[16:42] <Glaedr> friendishan » simply reconfigure firefox...
[16:42] <mo0nykit> hwilde, thanks for the help. i learned something new. that's modprobe :)
[16:42] <friendishan> glaedr: how and what configuration ?
[16:43] <Glaedr> friendishan » sudo dpkg-reconfigure firefox
[16:43] <sandstrom> Pici:  they are not executables, they are bash aliases I wrote myself
[16:43] <sandstrom> on os x they are in .bash_login
[16:43] <Pici> sandstrom: Then in ~/.bashrc and/or ~/.profile then
[16:43] <sandstrom> ah, profile it must be
[16:43] <friendishan> glaedr: nothing opened up
[16:44] <egomosis> Glaedr: wild, now my window decs change but not the internals, like buttons. You say you're not getting any changes at all?
[16:44] <sandstrom> thanks
[16:44] <sandstrom> Pici: thanks
[16:44] <nooc> is it possible to use remote desktop software that uses only port 80, i am berrind a firewaal but would like to use any remote desktop software like VNC but i just have 80 and 443 ports access?
[16:44] <Glaedr> egomosis » It's the same problem...try to launch an application as root...
[16:46] <Glaedr> egomosis » you see? root doesn't have this problem
[16:46] <friendishan> glaedr: i input sudo dpkg-reconfigure firefox in terminal and nothing opened up
[16:47] <IdleOne> friendishan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[16:47] <Glaedr> egomosis » I hope you have tested it on a vm!
[16:47] <Glaedr> friendishan » yes, I know...
[16:47] <Glaedr> friendishan » now restart firefox
[16:47] <friendishan> glaedr : ok
[16:48] <friendishan> idleone: it did some crap activity
[16:48] <adolfon> hello again
[16:48] <adolfon> jhont its not here?
[16:48] <Dominik1> is freenode sponsored by the same guys that sponsor ubuntu?
[16:48] <adolfon> i tested my ubuntu disk in other computer and this time this work fine
[16:48] <nooc> does anyone have a method to use remote desktop via port 80?
[16:48] <Pici> Dominik1: Canonical has given money to freenode, but that question is probably more on-topic for #freenode than here.
[16:49] <adolfon> i dont have idea why in my computer stuck in Loading... please wait screen
[16:49] <Dominik1> Pici: thanks
[16:49] <friendishan> glaedr: i restarted firfox now what?
[16:49] <johnT> adolfon, probably an hardware issue. try to load without acpi
[16:49] <calogero> ci sono italiani?
[16:49] <johnT> si
[16:49] <calogero> ok
[16:50] <friendishan> idleone: it is asking me to systemwide readable home directories
[16:50] <Pici> !it | calogero
[16:50] <Moon_Doggy> nvm i figured it out ty cbutler
[16:50] <Glaedr> friendishan » now the problem should be solved
[16:53] <egomosis> Glaedr: ya, interesting
[16:55] <pitput> how do I install skype for ubuntu 9.04? sudo apt-get install skype?
[16:55] <Vashta_Nerada> can someone help me connect my xp to my ubuntu via ssh putty and ultimately to nx?..... it's kinda driving me crazy
[16:57] <johnT> pitput: no
[16:57] <johnT> pitput: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[16:57] <pitput> johnT, is there a latest version out there or just a beta?
[16:57] <johnT> idk, I don't use it ;)
[16:58] <pitput> johnT, do you use ekiga instead?
[16:58] <scott_ino2> pitput, if you use mediabuntu repo you can install skype from apt-get/synaptic
[16:58] <Nijura> hi :)
[16:58] <scott_ino2> pitput, the ekiga voice quality in the newest version is amazing
[16:58] <pitput> scott_ino2, I use ubuntu 9.04
[16:58] <pitput> scott_ino2, have you ever used skype on ubuntu? how does that compare with skype?
[16:59] <scott_ino2> pitput, ?
[16:59] <scott_ino2> pitput, skype on ubuntu works well, I use it often
[16:59] <scott_ino2> for voice and video
[16:59] <adalal> btw..  notice, there's a new skype beta that works great, just as well as it works on windows, minus certain services i think
[16:59] <adalal> i use it
[17:00] <pitput> adalal, is it stable enough?
[17:00] <adalal> very
[17:00] <scott_ino2> pitput, it works very well, like i said i use it often
[17:00] <adalal> pitput: very, and it integrates well with pulseaudio. .the current beta version
[17:01] <pitput> I hate myself now for not buying a pc with webcam and microphone
[17:02] <Moon_Doggy> mod it'
[17:02] <adalal> pitput: external ones cost cheap anyways
[17:02] <adalal> :P
[17:02] <johnT> pitput: webcam and micro are easily available everywhere :D
[17:02] <savid> Hi, I'm getting a weird error when running apt-get update:  http://dpaste.com/94386/    It's just saying "Illegal instructionts... 0%"
[17:02] <nooc> is it possible to use remote desktop software that uses only port 80, i am berrind a firewaal but would like to use any remote desktop software like VNC but i just have 80 and 443 ports access?
[17:02] <pitput> johnT, Yeah, I know, but it would be nice to have it included. haha
[17:03] <jordo2323> Is there a way to log a user into Gnome from an SSH Commandline connection after a reboot?
[17:03] <scott_ino2> pitput, I actually hate my built-in microphone and simply want a nicer one now ;-)
[17:03] <scott_ino2> so just buy a nice one that supports high-rez
[17:04] <pitput> what is the latest gnome kernel?
[17:04] <Pici> pitput: gnome and the kernel are two different things.
[17:04] <pitput> scott_ino2, what brand is your pc and how long ago did you purchase it?
[17:04] <scott_ino2> pitput, you mean kernel? 2.6.31 stable is latest kernel
[17:04] <frede> How can i check the manufaturer id from a dvd on ubuntu?
[17:04] <Halitech> pitput, do you mean what is the kernel version in the latest version of ubuntu?
[17:04] <scott_ino2> pitput, hp dv2 and about 5 months ago
[17:04] <pitput> Pici, yeah, just the kernel
[17:05] <pitput> Halitech, yes
[17:05] <charding> Hi, I've just upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 and I'm having problems with my touchpad (synaptics). I can double click and highlight a word in xterm but trying to double click a buddy in my Pidgin buddy list doesn't work. Or trying to do the same in firefox also does not work. For pidgin, it does not open the chat window, I have to click the buddy atleast three times.
[17:05] <Pici> pitput: 2.6.28-15.49 in jaunty-updates
[17:05] <philbo> hi there
[17:06] <pitput> Pici, scott_ino2 thank you
[17:06] <nic1> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[17:06] <nic1> any idea, about the above error?
[17:08] <sebsebseb> hi
[17:08] <philbo> I've got a USB midi device. It works fine with my ubuntu based distribution "openArtist" - but not elsewhere. I'm trying to debug / identify the chipset used - any idea how to profile USB devices from the commandline? I remember using lsmod and scanpci a looong time ago. Anything similar?
[17:08] <Halitech> sebsebseb, howdy
[17:08] <Pici> philbo: lsusb :)
[17:08] <pitput> what is a good webcam you guys can suggest?
[17:09] <jeromel> hi all
[17:09] <nooc> lspci
[17:09] <nooc> ls usb
[17:09] <sebsebseb> Halitech: hi
[17:09] <jeromel> I have a problem with my partitions. I want to update the size of my linux partition, but Gparted does not accept that. Can anyone say me why?
[17:09] <nooc> dmesg
[17:10] <wng-> my machine crashed in the middle of installing nvidia-glx-180 via apt-get, now apt-get is giving me errors: dpkg: error processing nvidia-settings (--remove): subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2, any ideas how i can remove these packages that didn't fully install?
[17:10] <nooc> jeromel, probably the partition is monted, try tu use a boot cd
[17:10] <philbo> Pici: thanks! lsusb is pretty good
[17:10] <adalal1> jeromel: most of the time, it's because the last end bits of the partition you want to merge are filled
[17:11] <philbo> nooc: thanks - lspci and lsusb are pretty good - I hadn't thought of using dmesg, good tip.
[17:11] <jeromel> nooc : no I used a boot cd. adalall : I moved the free space after my partition I want to resize
[17:11] <ChrizC> does anyone know of a good PDF editor for Ubuntu?
[17:11] <jeromel> ChrizC:  OpenOffice !
[17:11] <ChrizC> and I emphasize, EDITOR, not reader :) ty
[17:11] <jeromel> =D
[17:11] <nooc> okay
[17:12] <ChrizC> jeromel: openoffice does pdf?
[17:12] <philbo> unfortunately, the dmesg just says "usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio" and lsusb lists NNNN;NNNN device ids with no descriptors
[17:12] <philbo> I'll keep digging
[17:12] <aar> Hi, is it possible to create a searchable pdf from an image file in Ubuntu?
[17:12] <jeromel> ChrizC:  yes you do your document with all links you want, all text and image you want, after just push the PDF button close to the Save button
[17:13] <ChrizC> jeromel: does it open pdf files too?
[17:13] <ChrizC> jeromel: apparently not.
[17:13] <jeromel> ChrizC: I believe yes
[17:13] <jeromel> but I think you cannot modifiy a pdf
[17:13] <Reals> I have a problem where my intel wireless card switch doesn't seem to work all the time so I bought a wireless card...when my intel wireless switch is turned off they both turn off? how can I stop this from happening?
[17:13] <Ktron> Is there a way to 'separate' <alt> from <meta>? I want to be able to use <meta>s and <alt>s as different shortcuts
[17:13] <ChrizC> it is possible under Windows using Foxit
[17:13] <pitput> Can I just use SKype as am IM service like aim or yim?
[17:14] <jeromel> yes
[17:14] <jeromel> but not with openoffice
[17:14] <johnT> ChrizC: already tried pdfedit?
[17:14] <scott_ino2> pitput, yes but only with skype's protocal I believe
[17:14] <jeromel> that what I would say
[17:14] <ChrizC> johnT: nope, I didn't know that existed
[17:14] <jeromel> someone for my resizing partition?
[17:15] <johnT> ChrizC: me neither, i just opened 'add-remove' and searched for pdf
[17:15] <seidos> does abiword have export to pdf functionality?
[17:15] <Reals> my wireless switch turns off both my wireless cards how can i change that?
[17:15] <ChrizC> johnT: E: Couldn't find package pdfedit
[17:15] <johnT> jeromel: to resize partitions you can use gparted
[17:15] <ChrizC> johnT: I used sudo apt-get
[17:15] <pitput> scott_ino2, meaning only to people who have skype?
[17:15] <nooc> thanks, no answare
[17:15] <johnT> ChrizC: check your repositories ;)
[17:16] <jeromel> johnT:  yes but It does not want to resize and I have no explanation =S
[17:16] <jeromel> is it possible to resize all type of partition ?
[17:16] <johnT> jeromel: is the partition mounted?
[17:16] <sebsebseb> seidos: don't think so
[17:16] <scott_ino2> pitput, yes, i don't think it's multi-protocal like other aim clients
[17:16] <jeromel> I thought it is because it is a xfs partition
[17:16] <jeromel> johnT no
[17:16] <johnT> jeromel, XFS can only be grown, not shrunk
[17:17] <jeromel> ok I want to grown of 18 Go
[17:17] <johnT> jeromel: make sure the fs is ok
[17:17] <jeromel> does the free space need to be after or before ?
[17:17] <Dr_Willis> jeromel:  there may be some XFS tools package you need to install to let gparted have full features for xfs perhaps?
[17:17] <Reals> I have 2 wireless cards, when I turn the swtich off for 1 they both turn off, how can i change this?
[17:18] <johnT> jeromel, it shuoldn't matter
[17:18] <aar> Hi, is it possible to create a searchable pdf from an image file in Ubuntu?
[17:18] <jeromel> ok =S so i don't see =|
[17:18] <jeromel> Dr_Willis:  I don't know, I used the gparted tool on a USB boot device
[17:18] <superkuh> On hardy; gksudo and sudo both segfault if I leave a blank CD-R in the drive. Is there a solution?
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> jeromel:  it proberly doswetn have the xfs tools installed by default
[17:19] <scott_ino2> aar, try the scribus channel, they have a lot of knowledge in the pdf realm
[17:19] <jeromel> Dr_Willis:  oki I succeed to move the partition
[17:19] <johnT> jeromel: sudo apt-get install xfsprogs
[17:19] <aar> scott_ino2, thanks
[17:19] <jeromel> johnT: can I use this with the gparted boot ?
[17:19] <Sentynel> I updated my nVidia drivers to the latest drivers from their site, following instructions on this thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1125400 It's all working except that it's broken my automount of an ntfs partition. Tells me unprivileged users can't mount NTFS block devices with the external FUSE library. How do I fix it?
[17:19] <scott_ino2> aar, they might not be responsive since most of them are in the uk
[17:19] <scott_ino2> not sure where you're located
[17:19] <jeromel> now I cannot because the partition I want to resize is my root
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> jeromel:  also i recall there can be issues if the 'unallocated' space you are growing the filesystem into.. is not on the same partition 'type' (ie primary vs logical) you can get into issues
[17:19] <johnT> jeromel, yes
[17:20] <Reals> I have 2 wireless cards, when i turn the switch off for one, they both become disabled? how can I change that?
[17:20] <philbo> thanks for the help guys - much appreciated. maybe see you back here soon! ;o)
[17:20] <wng-> my machine crashed in the middle of installing nvidia-glx-180 via apt-get, now apt-get is giving me errors: dpkg: error processing nvidia-settings (--remove): subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2, any ideas how i can remove these packages that didn't fully install?
[17:20] <Ktron> I'm trying to figure out how to separate <Super> from <Hyper> and/or <Alt> from <Meta>, any suggestions?
[17:20] <jeromel> oki thanks
[17:20] <jeromel> I will try this
[17:21] <superkuh> On hardy; gksudo and sudo both segfault (gdm trace: http://pastebin.com/m656f1f39) if I leave a blank CD-R in the drive. If I take it out it they work fine. Is there a solution?
[17:21] <nexes> why wont ubuntu let you update firefox??? Anyone know?
[17:21] <johnT> wng-: check if   'sudo apt-get check' fixes the problem
[17:21] <blankhead> im using xchat and i want to connect to irc.blackened.com how do u do that
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> nexes:  you can install firefox 3.5  package.. and it will show up under a different icon name
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> !ff3.5 | nexes
[17:21] <Reals> I have 2 wireless cards, when I turn the switch off for one they both become disabled?
[17:21] <Reals> how do i fix that?
[17:22] <sebsebseb> nexes: Ubuntu only does security updates in the repos
[17:22] <hdon> i can't get rm(1) to produce a french error message. help!
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> nexes:  Install the FF3.5 package.. look for shiretoko icon.    or just wait for  the next relesase
[17:22] <sebsebseb> nexes: then you have to  wait for next Ubuntu, or use a ppa or  whatever to get later major versions of packages
[17:22] <hdon> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/671515
[17:22] <ph33r> how do I install ff 3.5 stable in jaunty? I have ff 3.5.4pre atm, but want to shift to stable
[17:22] <hdon> i have installed language-pack-fr
[17:22] <erUSUL> !ff35 | ph33r
[17:23] <pitput> nexes, sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[17:24] <falco_> I've got remote desktop trouble, can anyone help?
[17:24] <Reals> I have a wireless card problem can anyone help?
[17:24] <falco_> I forwarded the ports but it still says it's only accessible to the local network
[17:25] <nexes> why is it called shiretoko?
[17:25] <grawity> !ff35 | nexes
[17:25] <grawity> nexes: See that link.
[17:26] <nexes> is it not actually mozilla firefox, but a "sudo" firefox browser
[17:26] <nexes> thanks grawity
[17:27] <johnT> nexes, not sure you understood
[17:27] <sachael> anyone know a way to open the skype window from the command line if it is hidden in the systray
[17:27] <pitput> so Ekiga. Will there charges by calling my Ekiga number on a landline and vice versa? What about cellphones to Ekiga and vice versa?
[17:27] <falco_> I forwarded the ports but it still says it's only accessible to the local network
[17:28] <falco_> I've got remote desktop trouble, can anyone help?
[17:28] <nexes> johnt: i agree with that, i dont understand, im coming from fedora 11, and i never had this problem
[17:28] <scott_ino2> pitput, calling landline/cell phones yes, you'll have to signup for an account but the costs are small
[17:28] <scott_ino2> i only use paid skype and not ekiga for landline calls
[17:28] <scott_ino2> so i couldnt' tell you the process/how much
[17:29] <johnT> nexes, its not a problem :) the ubuntu team wanted to allow firefox 3.0 and firefox 3.5 to be installed both without interfering, so they called the 3.5 version shiretoko but it actually IS firefox 3.5.  In the next ubuntu release it there will only be firefox 3.5, without any more shiretoko
[17:29] <Nijura> hello :) i just installed ubuntu and my display is flickering :( i got a hp compaq 6715b notebook with an ati radeon x1250 graphiccard and there seems to be no driver for it :< what shall i do now?
[17:29] <johnT> nexes, source :  http://is.gd/1reB3
[17:29] <pitput> scott_ino2, is there a program like AIM that could handle skype and such webcaming/VOIP?
[17:29] <arvind_khadri> hi, i have installed openssh-server on the computer i want to ssh into, its on the same network..but  there i have logged in a different user, the client says that there is no route to host. what to do?
[17:30] <scott_ino2> pitput, the most recent version of pidgin handles voice/videochat through xmpp
[17:30] <nexes> ok, thanks jonhT, im a developer but whenever i have to deal with "this" stuff i feel like a newbie sometimes, So then do i have firefox installed twice, taking up more disk space?
[17:30] <pitput> scott_ino2, thanks again
[17:30] <scott_ino2> np
[17:30] <nathan__> hello everyone :)
[17:30] <johnT> nexes, you can remove firefox-3.0 if you prefer
[17:30] <chris-dowle> is keyserver.ubuntu.com down?
[17:31] <scott_ino2> pitput, check the pidgin website for a list of supported protocals, i know they're working on implementing more for videochat
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> nexes:  becuase they dident want to Force everyone to use 3.5 - thats just how ubuntu handles 'btween release' updates
[17:33] <fccf> chris-dowle: Yes, the ubuntu keyserver is down ... Alternative server ... pool.sks-keyservers.net  -- will update to ubuntu when ubuntu is back up
[17:33] <bro> Nijura, what version of ubuntu did you install?
[17:33] <nexes> thanks guys, i think i got it now :-) by the by, im liking ubuntu much more the fedora and i loved fedora
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> nexes:  ff3.5 broke some things for me. .i had to use 3.0   for many tasks.
[17:33] <Nijura> i installed ubuntu 9.04, bro
[17:34] <chris-dowle> fccf: ty :-)
[17:34] <bro> Nijura, did you try to install the proprietary drivers from ubuuntu? menu-system->administration->hardware drivers ?
[17:35] <sivang> hi all
[17:35] <fccf> !hi |sivang
[17:35] <sivang> can anybody tell me if it's good to get a netbook with intel gma 950 ? will it support future version of ubuntu? what is the status of the intel driver and is it open source?
[17:36] <sivang> hey fccf
[17:36] <Nijura> bro: yes i tried that, but there was only a driver for my wlan, nothing else
[17:36] <sebsebseb> sivang: currently there are issues with many Intel graphics cards in 9.04, but 9.10 should have  that kind of stuff fixed
[17:36] <sebsebseb> !intel |  sivang
[17:37] <bro> Nijura, did you already updated your system via update manager?
[17:37] <sebsebseb> sivang: also  Intel graphics  cards hmm,   Nividia would be better
[17:37] <Nijura> bro: yes i did
[17:38] <bro> Nijura, do you have any graphics drivers installed as we speak?
[17:38] <bro> Nijura, any failed installation, or smt/
[17:38] <fccf> sivang: there is a regression for the GMA950 in Jaunty ... In future versions that should be fixed .. I know for a fact that that card is supproted in the Hardy 8.04 version, and works well.. So Yes in the future it will be supported, and as most netbooks have either the Intel (which is the better chip) or Via, which support should be improving for
[17:38] <arahiel> arah
[17:38] <arahiel> hej
[17:39] <fccf> sebsebseb: do you know of a netbook that has Nvidia? I don't
[17:39] <jeromel> re
[17:39] <jeromel> I tried on live cd
[17:39] <sivang> fccf: there isn't
[17:39] <sebsebseb> fccf: me either,  I don't know that much about netbooks in fact
[17:39] <jeromel> and I cannot resize it
[17:39] <sivang> thanks all!
[17:39] <sivang> this has been very helpful
[17:39] <sivang> I'm sorry for the noise I created int he devel room
[17:39] <Nijura> bro: not byself, but i don't know if there was some installed automatically. i tried to install the one from this homepage http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[17:39] <jhattara> 3
[17:39] <pitput> does anyone know of a service where they give out free phone numbers and voicemail online? I basically want that ability to return people's calls if I'm not available on my phone,etc
[17:39] <fccf> !enter | sivang
[17:39] <MenZa> !ubuntu | pitput
[17:40] <Nijura> bro: but it didn't work, it said my distro was wrong :/
[17:40] <pitput> MenZa, what?
[17:40] <terios> hi ppl
[17:40] <terios> i have a problem
[17:40] <fccf> piput: are you in the USA?
[17:40] <MenZa> pitput: This channel is solely for Ubuntu support.
[17:40] <pitput> fccf, yes
[17:40] <sebsebseb> !ot |  pitput
[17:40] <terios> i bcame o monitor today
[17:40] <sebsebseb> !ask |  terios
[17:40] <terios> but the resolution is a not good
[17:40] <spree_> pitput, We are trying to tell you that this is not the proper place to ask that question. Do not continue, cease.
[17:40] <sebsebseb> !enter |  terios
[17:40] <fccf> pitput: Google Voice rocks ... you have to have a Gmail account though
[17:40] <terios> i dont know what i have to do
[17:40] <terios> ooo im sorry
[17:41] <arahiel> I have a problem I need to delay the start of a program I've got the script but don't know how to paste it and where
[17:41] <sivang> ubottu: will do
[17:41] <MenZa> fccf: Please. This discussion belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:41] <sivang> hehe
[17:41] <sivang> bots..
[17:41] <sebsebseb> !bot | sivang
[17:41] <bro> Nijura, ok, let me search the web a little, i'll get back to you.
[17:41] <sebsebseb> !sorry |  terios
[17:41] <Nijura> bro: ok :)
[17:42] <arahiel> anyh ppl here
[17:42] <sebsebseb> terios: enter not a big deal, but it does help  to have your question  together
[17:42] <macman_> hey all .. i'm using gparted to parition a hdd and i keep getting an error .. i did a chkdsk on the hd and it passed .. what could be going on ?
[17:43] <sebsebseb> arahiel: yep mainly people here,  and maybe some aliens as well :D
[17:43] <arvind_khadri> !hosts > arvind_khadri
[17:43] <arvind_khadri> !host > arvind_khadri
[17:43] <arahiel> I have a problem I need to delay the start of a program I've got the script but don't know how to paste it and where
[17:43] <sebsebseb> !fishing |  arahiel
[17:43] <sebsebseb> arahiel: wrong one
[17:43] <MenZa> !msgthebot | arvind_khadri
[17:43] <sebsebseb> !fishing  |  arvind_khadri
[17:43] <terios> well my question is... now im using ubuntu cuz my laptop where i had kubuntu its broken... n im trying to configure my new monitor in this laptop, but i became always a freak resolution
[17:43] <MenZa> !resoution | terios
[17:43] <sebsebseb> !bot |  arvind_khadri
[17:44] <MenZa> !resolution > terios (Please see the private message from the bot)
[17:44] <sebsebseb> !xorg |  terios
[17:45] <kingspook> In Karmic, where's grub's menu.lst...?
[17:45] <arahiel> I have a problem I need to delay the start of a program I've got the script but don't know how to paste it and where, help
[17:45] <macman_> hey all .. i'm using gparted to parition a hdd and i keep getting an error .. i did a chkdsk on the hd and it passed .. what could be going on ?
[17:45] <sebsebseb> !pastebin |  arahiel
[17:45] <JediMaster> can anyone tell me why my ubuntu server has a load of 20.6 and climbing but there's only about 1% cpu usage?
[17:45] <fccf> !karmic | kingspook
[17:45] <arvind_khadri> MenZa, sebsebseb sorry about that ...
[17:46] <JediMaster> load is 18.80 ... Cpu(s):  0.2%us,  0.2%sy,  0.0%ni, 98.3%id,  0.1%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.1%si,  1.0%st
[17:46] <slogum> To install Java Studio Creator... All I need to do is to install NetBeans and download couple of plugins, right?
[17:46] <slogum> sry, wrong chan
[17:47] <misterbe> join #appengine
[17:47] <ratapoil> Where should I copy a .ttf to have it installed?
[17:47] <DaZ-> ~/.fonts
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> ratapoil:  .fonts is one place
[17:47] <MenZa> ratapoil: ~/.fonts if you wish to keep it as your own user, or if you want it system-wide, /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[17:48] <ratapoil> thanks MenZa & Dr_Willis
[17:48] <pixlbox> for some reason i cant load anything from the google images gstatic.com servers