[00:27] <amurray> deathmist: you can create a profile for bwrap itself locally if you want (but we haven't done that for the distro since it would allow any malware to just call bwrap to get a new user namespace and hence bypass this restriction)
[00:28] <amurray> eg. a profile like the ones mentioned in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/2046844/comments/5 should be sufficient for your needs
[00:28] -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Launchpad bug 2046844 in angelfish (Ubuntu) "AppArmor user namespace creation restrictions cause many applications to crash with SIGTRAP" [Critical, In Progress]


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[00:00] <smartboyhw> s/meni/menu/
[00:00] <kubotu> smartboyhw meant: "Guys, where (which package) is the configuration for the menu tabs stored?"
[00:14] <apachelogger> smartboyhw: kubuntu-settings
[01:00] <ScottK> dantti: I'm out of ideas then.
[01:06] <dantti> ScottK: oh :/ I thought you are going to tell me good news :P
[01:06] <dantti> maybe I should try 13.10 :P or gummiboot
[01:13] <ahoneybun> valorie: ping
[02:05] <ahoneybun> Darkwing: ?
[02:07] <ScottK> dantti: If Ubuntu fails too, you might ask stgraber during the day on #ubuntu-devel.
[02:07] <dantti> ok thanks :)
[02:07] <ScottK> He might be around now too.
[02:08] <ahoneybun> hey ScottK
[02:10] <ScottK> Heya.
[02:10] <ahoneybun> what's up
[02:24] <ScottK> I've got a cold.
[02:24] <ahoneybun> oh that sucjs
[02:24] <ahoneybun> sucks
[02:40] <dantti> ScottK: funny if I use efibootmgr and set the next boot to Windows it boots fine...
[02:41] <dantti> but using the bios option to boot windows doesn't
[02:41] <ScottK> Weird.  I don't have any experience with it myself.
[02:42] <dantti> well i should work well (at least without secure boot) and afaik it's a good intel standard
[02:42] <dantti> *it
[04:06] <ahoneybun>  /away
[04:35] <valorie> hi, ahoneybun
[06:06] <markey> gaaah, Muon is so freaking unstable
[06:06] <markey> it crashes when the wind blows gently
[06:24] <soee_> good morning
[08:45] <apachelogger> markey: file a bug report plz
[08:46] <markey> for AudioData?
[08:46] <apachelogger> for muon crashing
[08:46] <markey> oh heh, wrong channel. thought this was multimedia
[08:46] <markey> ok
[09:35] <vHanda> https://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/487175-nepomuk-constant-crashing.html
[09:36] <vHanda> shadeslayer: Have a look at this please ^
[09:36] <vHanda> This is a similar issue to the one that guy was having yesterday
[11:19] <vassie> hello, i packaged an app for raring, i have just updated and uploaded it to my ppa, i'm not sure what i need to do next
[11:40] <palasso> May I fix typos I see on the Kubuntu Docs?
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:06] <yofel> RFC: ubiquity has an option to "install updates while installing". Would it be totally insane to enable that by default?
[12:07] <xnox> yofel: it has an option to "_download_ updates while installing" it doesn't install them.
[12:07] <yofel> xnox: so the user needs to still install them once he's in the installed system?
[12:08] <xnox> yofel: yeap, it's just they are prefetched and ready to install. E.g. on ubuntu the software updater pops up saying "Updates are ready to be installed"
[12:08] <yofel> hm, why can't ubiquity install them right away?
[12:10] <xnox> yofel: no known final & reproducible install state. If installations go awray, very hard to debug & easy to fail installation. At least with a CD image, we know all of those packages install, because well we had to install them to build the cd in the first place.
[12:10] <yofel> true :S
[12:10] <xnox> yofel: also see ubuntu installation specification document, which has a paragraphs about this checkbox, behaviour, and reasoning.
[12:10] <yofel> oh, where is that?
[12:19] <jussi> hehe, this was funny...
[12:20] <jussi> jussi@starling:~$ apt-cache search weather unity
[12:20] <jussi> plasma-widgets-addons - additional widgets for Plasma
[13:30] <palasso> baltolkien__, plz don't reconnect all the time, you're flooding the channel with messages
[13:31] <yofel> apachelogger: btw, what's the status of your kde-frameworks daily-build-framework?
[13:34] <smartboyhw> !ops | baltokien
[13:34] <smartboyhw> Help, it's trolling…
[13:34] <smartboyhw> Quit and join messages
[13:35] <yofel> note: at least the ubuntu IRC ops don't count that as trolling
[13:35] <yofel> most clients can disable join/quit messages
[13:35] <yofel> s/disable/hide/
[13:35] <kubotu> yofel meant: "most clients can hide join/quit messages"
[13:36] <smartboyhw> OK then…
[13:36] <smartboyhw> :O
[13:36] <yofel> thanks nevertheless Pici
[13:36] <Pici> np
[13:36] <BluesKaj> but it's still a PITA for thiose of us who prefer to have quits and joins enabled
[13:36] <smartboyhw> Pici: Thx :)
[13:36] <smartboyhw> BluesKaj: Sane
[13:36] <smartboyhw> *Same
[13:37] <palasso> May I fix typos when I see them on Kubuntu Docs?
[13:37] <smartboyhw> palasso: Which Kubuntu docs do you mean?
[13:37] <palasso> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/
[13:38] <palasso> Some of them have some typos that I noticed while reading them
[13:40] <smartboyhw> palasso: Sure.
[13:40] <palasso> kthnx
[13:40] <yofel> I doubt they'll mind if you just go ahead and fix them, but poke ahoneybun or Darkwing to make sure it's fixed in all places they work on right now
[13:44] <palasso> I see valorie is editing them and since she's around I'll ask her if I can edit to fix typos when I see them..
[13:47] <yofel> is someone working on backporting amarok 2.7.1?
[13:47] <smartboyhw> Or, is the new KTp in?
[13:48] <yofel> Quintasan_, shadeslayer ^
[13:49] <BluesKaj> it's default in 13.10
[13:49] <yofel> smartboyhw: newest is? I see 0.6.X in archives
[14:26] <Riddell> vassie: best to put any packaging changes in the changelog
[14:26] <Riddell> I'll put a line for "new build-depends libcdparanoia-dev, libmusicbrainz5-dev, libcddb2-dev
[14:28] <Riddell> vassie: uploaded to saucy!
[14:30] <yofel> Mamarok: 4.10.3 announcement out, sorry for the delay
[14:30] <Riddell> thanks yofel
[14:31] <Riddell> sorry I failed to do that
[14:31] <yofel> well, you and me both
[14:37] <vassie> Riddell: what do i need to do for raring?
[14:37] <Riddell> vassie: various options
[14:38] <Riddell> vassie: it's in your PPA so that could be good enough, we could put it into the kubuntu backports PPA or you could go through the backports process for the proper thing
[14:38] <vassie> Riddell: how did it make it into the official repo before? how do i upgrade that package?
[14:39] <Riddell> vassie: that was before raring was released
[14:39] <vassie> Riddell: ah, ok
[14:39] <Riddell> vassie: now that it's been released it's frozen hard
[14:40] <vassie> Riddell: kubuntu backports ppa? what about that?
[14:40] <Riddell> vassie: yeah I can throw it into there
[14:41] <vassie> Riddell: thanks, how can i veiw the changes you made, so i know for next time
[14:43] <Riddell> vassie: just changed the changelog http://paste.kde.org/748892/
[14:45] <vassie> Riddell: thanks
[16:11] <Riddell> hi howard_
[16:11] <Riddell> howard_: interested in helping Kubuntu?
[16:13] <howard_> Current lurking. Interested in observing next Kubuntu Team meeting. Recently joined work project using Kubuntu (I am mostly a Debian user)
[16:20] <Riddell> howard_: oh cool,let us know what good/bad points you find
[18:10] <soee> agateau, ping
[18:38] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1183030] package plasma-widgets-workspace 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to ov... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1183030 (by Fila Kolodny)
[18:38] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1183031] package kdm 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/k... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1183031 (by Fila Kolodny)
[18:38] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1183032] package plasma-desktop 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1183032 (by Fila Kolodny)
[19:00] <vHanda> shadeslayer: ping
[19:14] <shadeslayer> vHanda: hi
[19:21] <vHanda> shadeslayer: do you want to implement the epub extractor?
[19:21] <shadeslayer> uhh ... I do not have the time sadly :(
[19:21] <shadeslayer> too many things to do
[19:22] <vHanda> shadeslayer: are you sure? :P
[19:22] <vHanda> It'll just take an hour or so
[19:22] <shadeslayer> I need to stop signing myself for things for which I have no time :p
[19:23] <vHanda> plus you were looking to code something
[19:23] <shadeslayer> vHanda: yep, really, I want to finish my previous commitments first
[19:23] <vHanda> bah
[19:23] <vHanda> how about a mobi parser? :P
[19:24] <shadeslayer> lol
[19:24] <shadeslayer> no
[19:25] <vHanda> chm?
[19:25] <shadeslayer> have to start saying no somewhere
[19:25] <shadeslayer> no time ... I have no flipping time
[19:26] <shadeslayer> I already feel so bad about saying no
[19:30] <shadeslayer> vHanda: btw I looked at the opensuse forum post this morning :p
[19:30] <shadeslayer> I make it a point to read backlogs in nepomuk-kde ;)
[19:30] <vHanda>  ... and?
[19:31] <shadeslayer> freetype ... who would have thought
[19:31] <shadeslayer> and ... it doesn't make sense to me
[19:31] <shadeslayer> might look a bit more when I have some time
[19:40] <ahoneybun> valorie: ping
[21:29] <valorie> hmm, no ahoneybun
[21:29] <valorie> palasso: of course fix typos!
[21:30] <valorie> it's a wiki; that's the point
[21:30] <valorie> no need to ask permission , these are your docs
[21:31] <valorie> the only time coordination is necessary is to keep from walking over one another's edits; in other words, only one person editing a page at a time
[22:23] <ScottK> debfx: Now that colibri is in Debian, should we just sync their pacakge?
[22:49] <Darkwing> Well, I'm going to start work on this years halloween costume. Will take some time. http://www.therpf.com/f24/dr-who-silence-124190/
[22:51] <valorie> omg that will be frightening
[22:52] <Darkwing> My girlfriend is going to walk around with tally markings :D
[22:52] <valorie> ahahahaha
[22:52] <Darkwing> Hey valorie, you busy?
[22:53] <valorie> I just watched the bbc america "Best Doctor Who Monsters" ep the other night
[22:53] <valorie> and saw River with all the hash marks
[22:53] <Darkwing> Oh yeah. Dr Who FTW
[22:53] <valorie> scary few eps
[22:53] <valorie> nope, whassup?
[22:53] <Darkwing> The other one I'm going to put together for cosplay is this. http://crafty-tardis.livejournal.com/152724.html
[22:54] <valorie> those were effing scary too
[22:55] <valorie> in fact I think I scared my hubby off of the doctor by showing him Blink
[22:55] <valorie> lol
[22:55] <Darkwing> You get a working mic?
[22:55] <valorie> in the mail
[22:55] <Darkwing> blink was amazing.
[22:55] <Darkwing> Okay sweet.
[22:55] <Darkwing> About the docs. :D
[22:55] <valorie> might be my favorite evar
[22:55] <valorie> now I eye every statue I see though
[22:56] <Darkwing> It's a toss up between the angels and the silence.
[22:56] <valorie> agreed
[22:56] <valorie> primal fears
[22:56] <valorie> about the docs: I'm not sure aaron is exactly on board
[22:57] <valorie> he keeps wanting more
[22:57]  * Darkwing raises an eyebrow
[22:57] <valorie> and I keep wanting LESS
[22:57] <Darkwing> Well, let's comprimise then.
[22:57] <valorie> and linking to other stuff on the website
[22:57] <Darkwing> On the Wiki, we will have more and more if he is willing to maintain.
[22:57] <valorie> well, I think maybe another discussion would clarify it all, for all of us
[22:57] <Darkwing> That is the biggest thing, maintaining the docs.
[22:57] <valorie> agreed
[22:58] <Darkwing> The other thing, we are going to be able to have the welcome screen with webslice.
[22:58] <valorie> I want each lil subject to be by itself as a separate page
[22:58] <valorie> right
[22:58] <valorie> we're all together there
[22:58] <Darkwing> Unless you can convince the council otherwise
[22:58] <Darkwing> :P
[22:58] <ScottK> My suggestion is to agree on a minimum for an initial release and then aaron can do more if he wants.
[22:58] <valorie> but I think we need to agree on what those basic page(s) should be
[22:58] <Darkwing> ScottK: +1
[22:58] <valorie> ScottK: I think we should always ship the minimum
[22:59] <Darkwing> My idea is having ALL the documentation online on the wiki.
[22:59] <valorie> and have whatever else we want on the wiki
[22:59] <Darkwing> ship a horridly minimum amount.
[22:59] <valorie> right
[22:59] <valorie> helpful, but minimal
[22:59] <valorie> people don 't like to read text
[22:59] <Darkwing> And, because we wont have the pop-up welcome screen, I'll just recode what we have into docbook for the minimum
[22:59] <valorie> they don't even read the slides
[23:00] <Darkwing> This will prevent us from having to code a new viewer.
[23:00] <valorie> heck, *I* don't even read them, except to admire how nice they look
[23:00] <Darkwing> And, we will have a docs and welcome icon in the ~/Desktop folder
[23:00] <Darkwing> and not a lot of text.
[23:01] <Darkwing> A lot of screenshots.
[23:01] <Darkwing> visual is always better.
[23:01] <valorie> Darkwing: how about sending a nice email summing up your thoughts to kubuntu-devel list?
[23:01] <valorie> agreed
[23:01] <Darkwing> That would be too easy. :P
[23:01] <Darkwing> Okay, I'll knock that out.
[23:01] <valorie> we'll need to keep the screenies small or at least the filesize small
[23:02] <valorie> I like big, but this should all be viewable on someone's phone
[23:02] <valorie> in case they are hosed and that's the only way they can access
[23:03] <valorie> be sure to share photos of you in your costumes!
[23:03] <valorie> are you gonna get the teeth for the angel one?
[23:06] <valorie> heavy makeup seems like a better idea than masks, though
[23:07] <valorie> also it seems like you could use a mop head for the wig
[23:08] <valorie> damn, those will be awesome
[23:11] <Darkwing> For the angel I'm just going to use molding clay
[23:11] <Darkwing> This way it will be more like stone.
[23:17] <valorie> molding clay for the hair?
[23:17] <Darkwing> For the face.
[23:17] <valorie> ah
[23:17] <Darkwing> I think for the hair, I'll stiffen a mop head
[23:17] <Darkwing> But, it will have to be really really stiff.
[23:17] <valorie> well, you can get powdered starch, and mix it really thick
[23:18] <valorie> and then paint more on top
[23:18] <valorie> even the liquid starch will make it pretty firm
[23:19] <Darkwing> Yeah, I was thinking of spray plaster as well.
[23:19] <valorie> thinned liquid plaster maybe
[23:19] <valorie> although then you'll have cracking
[23:19] <valorie> plaster is fun to work with
[23:20] <Darkwing> Yup. :D
[23:26] <Darkwing> As of right now, we should be abandening the webslice idea.
[23:26] <Darkwing> FWIW
[23:32] <valorie> why is that?
[23:32] <valorie> too glitchy?
[23:32] <valorie> I personally hate widgets on the desktop, but that's just me
[23:32] <Darkwing> Because, to open a widget with an icon that is a limited about of space is kinda a bad idea.
[23:33] <Darkwing> As I'm laying out in my email, the shipped basic docs shouldn't change from release to release unless we change something MAJOR
[23:33] <valorie> there is a browser widget too
[23:33] <Darkwing> So, keeping it in the KHelpCenter *gags* for now is a better idea.
[23:33] <valorie> I hear you
[23:34] <Darkwing> It also gives a good looka t where they can find KDE help docs as well.
[23:34] <valorie> maybe we can work with apachelogger to get khelpcenter fixed?
[23:34] <Darkwing> It's usable.
[23:34] <valorie> because I always prefer to do things the KDE Way
[23:34] <Darkwing> Yes.
[23:34] <valorie> ok, usable
[23:34] <valorie> but not cool
[23:35] <Darkwing> But, if we have a VERY limited about of stuff that we add to the shipped docs, we wont have to update them every 6 months.
[23:35] <valorie> right
[23:35] <Darkwing> and with a limited about of stuff, we don't need cool.
[23:35] <valorie> well, cool gets people to use the docs
[23:35] <Darkwing> We can save cool for the wiki
[23:35] <valorie> umm, .... moinmoin
[23:36] <valorie> that will never be cool
[23:36] <Darkwing> I know.
[23:36] <valorie> lol
[23:36] <Darkwing> It will change but, we only have so much to work for,.
[23:36] <valorie> right
[23:36] <valorie> and again, most stuff won't change
[23:37] <Darkwing> Right, so, no real reason to change from KHelpCenter
[23:37] <valorie> got it
[23:37] <valorie> PM?
[23:38] <Darkwing> sure.


[11:51] <iJonny> Hello...
[12:08] <persia> Hey.
[12:20] <iJonny> Anyone on here using ubuntu mobile yet :?
[17:04] <didrocks> Hey,
[17:05] <didrocks> can I upload netbook-launcher-efl removing the C/R which is uneeded? (I want to make netbook-launcher recommends netbook-launcher-efl as this one can now launch it if there is no 3D acceleration detected)
[17:28] <persia> didrocks: Go ahead, if they no longer C/R
[17:28] <persia> didrocks: It's probably work leaving the C/R, and just versioning it though.
[17:29] <didrocks> persia: ok, I'll do that way, thanks
[17:30] <persia> didrocks: Just as a guideline, we don't tend to be very proprietary about packages we use, and lots of stuff ends up being experiments to see how it works: if you have an improvement for anything, please just do it (although if you want to consult with others, we're happy to do that too)
[17:32] <didrocks> persia: ok, I was really thinking netbook-launcher-efl was a mobile thing first. I'll just need sponsoring as I'm still just a MOTU with GNOME package set right. But I'll find someone :)
[17:32] <persia> It is kinda a mobile thing, because lots of handhelds don't have enough GPU (or we don't have drivers) to handle full netbook-launcher
[17:33] <persia> But, like I said, we don't tend to be proprietary about packages: we're more focused on improving the general experience on smaller systems, rather than on specicific software.
[17:34] <persia> For this cycle, lots of focus has been on ARM processors, because there's only a very few Intel-based handhelds available right now.
[17:35] <persia> So don't be surprised if you see a patch fixing a FTBFS or providing optimisation in a Desktop package (as we also tend to assume other people aren't proprietary about packages)
[17:36] <persia> didrocks: Thinking about it, do you know a good reason why netbook-launcher-2D isn't in the ubuntu-desktop set?  I thought there was a shared ubuntu-netbook seed for all architectures.
[17:36]  * persia double-checks
[17:38] <didrocks> persia: oh, I'm not sure at all, I guess it should be. I didn't checked to be honest
[17:40] <persia> didrocks: There might also be a bit of confusion regarding seeds and sets.
[17:40] <persia> didrocks: If you're looking at dual-installability, you may want to drop the [armel] tag in the seed anyway :)
[17:41] <persia> But it's probably worth a mail to the TB.  If there isn't a separate dev team for the netbook seed, there ought be, and you ought be in it :)
[17:41] <persia> (or at least an upload permission, and DMB can add people)
[17:45] <didrocks> persia: agreed. Let's first try to fix the C/R issue and then, we will see for the paperwork past FF :)
[17:45] <persia> heh, yeah :)
[17:46] <persia> didrocks: I'd recommend trying to upload, and seeking sponsorship if it fails.
[17:46] <persia> (unless you know a better way to test for sure)
[17:46] <didrocks> persia: right, asac anwsered too on #ubuntu-dekstop: do you want to do it or I try to upload?
[17:47] <persia> didrocks: I've less upload permissions than you: I have no package-sets beyond MOTU.
[17:47] <persia> (modulo a paperwork issue)
[17:48] <didrocks> ok :)
[20:45] <iJonny_> hello...
[20:46] <iJonny_> wonder if anyone could help me with a ubuntu-mobile & pda question :?
[20:48] <iJonny_> im tryin to flash a pda someone gave me so that i cam put ubuntu-mobile on it...  The pda comes up as a pda n not a drive or drive letter...  Anyone know how i can install the .img file onto the pda over windows mobile ;?
[20:56] <persia> Well, which model?
[20:56] <persia> What processor?
[20:59] <iJonny_> its a MEDION
[20:59] <iJonny_> running windows mobile 4.20 atm...
[21:16] <persia> Sorry, I can't find specs from a quick search .
[21:17] <persia> But anyway, the best place to find out how to replace the OS is usually a hardware hacking site dedicated to the specific hardware.
[21:17] <persia> Once you can figure out how to run Linux at all, running Ubuntu is just a matter of starting with an Ubuntu filesystem.
[21:17] <persia> If it's an ARM based device, rootstock is a good tool for this.
[21:18] <persia> If it's an x86-based device, ubuntu-virtual-builder is probably closest (I should do some more research here).
[21:22] <iJonny_> ok thanks for your help...
[21:22] <iJonny_> ill keep looking :))
[22:54] <persia> rbelem: Last chance on -default-settings (as we'll need an exception to the freeze otherwise)
[22:56] <rbelem> persia, i think it's better put -default-settings in the ppa
[22:56] <persia> rbelem: That works for me.  Just wanted to make sure.
[22:56] <rbelem> :-)
[22:56] <persia> rbelem: In that case, we'll target everything for the PPA for lucid.  Works for you?
[22:57] <rbelem> persia, yep! agreed
[22:57] <persia> ian_brasil: Just FYI ^^
[22:58] <persia> rbelem: So, when you have some stuff ready, poke me, and I'll take a look re: packaging style, etc.
[22:58] <persia> Also, feel free to ask me if you have any questions, etc.
[22:58] <rbelem> cool!
[22:58] <rbelem> thanks persia :-)
[22:58] <persia> No problem.  The ideas I heard at UDS were great.  I'm looking forward to runinng this :)
[23:00] <rbelem> :-)
[23:00] <rbelem> we want ubuntu running on a mobile phone
[23:00] <rbelem> \o/
[23:03] <rbelem> ian_brasil, ^
[23:07] <persia> well, I don't want it on a phone, but I have minority views when it comes to what devices are useful :)
[23:07] <persia> (but my idea of an ideal handheld is in the same size range as other people would accept in phones : I just want my phone to be the size of a USB stick, or smaller)
[23:07] <persia> Putting the entire phone in a watch would be nice.


[03:03] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[07:12] <ducasse> good morning
[13:32] <marcoagpinto> Hello guys
[13:32] <marcoagpinto> :)
[13:32] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[13:33] <marcoagpinto> people can't go out on the weekend after 1pm here in Portuga
[13:33] <marcoagpinto> Portugal*
[13:34] <daftykins> good of the virus to wait
[13:35] <marcoagpinto> at least I stayed home
[13:35] <marcoagpinto> :)
[13:35] <marcoagpinto> but will have to work during the week


[08:23] <dholbach> good morning
[08:57] <davidcalle> Morning o/
[09:17] <dholbach> salut davidcalle
[09:18] <davidcalle> dholbach o/ How was the weekend?
[09:20] <dholbach> very nice - how was yours? :)
[09:30] <davidcalle> dholbach: same, was great :)
[09:31] <davidcalle> dholbach: so, as caio confirmed, there is indeed an issue with the staging server since they changed IPs, it affects several projects.
[09:37] <dholbach> ugh :-/
[09:38] <dholbach> do they know what to do?
[09:42]  * dholbach relocates to the office, brb
[10:29] <dholbach> davidcalle, I replied to Caio's mail
[10:30] <davidcalle> dholbach: thanks!
[11:54] <dholbach> davidcalle, you mentioned the tech side of things regarding jujudocs last week already - are you suggesting we exchange some of the technologies we're currently using with something else?
[11:55] <dholbach> (for now I was mostly just looking at things like presentation and styling of text and the version selector at the top :))
[11:56] <davidcalle> dholbach: not really, mostly looking at how they generate their UI, to see if we can integrate it with the CMS (or CONTROVERSIAL POINT AHEAD: without the CMS)
[11:56]  * dholbach opens the shed with the pitchforks
[11:57] <davidcalle> :D
[11:57] <davidcalle> dholbach, that's it, I'm switching to Joomla :p
[11:59] <dholbach> just thinking out loud now: if we did that we'd probably lose translations and URLs might get funny as some stuff is currently still in the CMS
[11:59] <davidcalle> dholbach: translations, great point
[12:01] <dholbach> davidcalle, this was https://github.com/juju/docs?
[12:01] <davidcalle> dholbach: yep
[12:01] <dholbach> at least they acknowledge translations ("At some point we hope to offer multilingual versions of the docs, whereupon these will live in similarly titled directories (e.g. 'fr', 'de', etc.).")


[20:43]  * arosales reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~charmers/charms/precise/jenkins/trunk
[20:43] <tvansteenburgh> hey charmers, remove from queue: https://code.launchpad.net/~brad-marshall/charms/precise/squid-reverseproxy/http-port-config/+merge/185204
[20:43] <bcsaller> marcoceppi:  done lp:~web-brandon/charms/precise/node-app/install-fix into lp:charms/node-app
[20:43] <mbruzek> reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~brad-marshall/charms/precise/squid-reverseproxy/fixed-ports-path/+merge/184023
[20:43]  * lazyPower-sprint is reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~mattyw/charms/precise/mongodb/auth_experiment/+merge/162887
[20:44]  * kwmonroe is reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/charms/precise/stackmobile/added-icon/+merge/183274
[20:44]  * aisrael is reviewing https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+bug/1360205
[20:44] <mup> Bug #1360205: Charming Hortonworks Apache Tez <Juju Charms Collection:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1360205>
[20:44] <bcsaller> marcoceppi: review  	lp:~hloeung/charms/precise/rsyslog/trunk into lp:charms/rsyslog
[20:45] <cory_fu> Reviewing: https://code.launchpad.net/~crhrabal/charms/precise/nagios/trunk/+merge/195145
[20:46] <cory_fu> https://code.launchpad.net/~crhrabal/charms/precise/nagios/trunk/+merge/195145 needs a charmer to merge.  It's already +1 twice and is trivial
[20:46] <cory_fu> Reviewing: https://code.launchpad.net/~stub/charms/precise/postgresql/bug-1281600-log_temp_files/+merge/224250
[20:47] <lazyPower-sprint> marcoceppi: done w/ MongoDB merge
[20:47] <lazyPower-sprint> cory_fu: merging for you
[20:47] <cory_fu> Thanks
[20:48] <mbruzek> marcoceppi, done with squid-proxy/fixed-ports-path review
[20:48] <bcsaller> review: https://code.launchpad.net/~cmars/charms/precise/haproxy/trunk/+merge/201458
[20:48] <mbruzek> mbruzek reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~hloeung/charms/precise/rsyslog/trunk/+merge/134024
[20:48] <cory_fu> https://code.launchpad.net/~stub/charms/precise/postgresql/bug-1281600-log_temp_files/+merge/224250 needs a charmer to merge, with two +1's
[20:50] <cory_fu> Reviewing: https://code.launchpad.net/~evarlast/charms/precise/hive/encoding/+merge/226540
[20:54] <lazyPower-sprint> Done w/ cory_fu's nagios merge --- cory_fu the upstream readme had diverged and already had a fix.
[21:02] <mbruzek> reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~jose/charms/precise/nyancat/port-changing+amulet-tests/+merge/216352
[21:04] <jcastro> low hanging fruit: https://code.launchpad.net/~moon127/charms/precise/storage/fstab-fix/+merge/232382
[21:05] <marcoceppi> working on https://code.launchpad.net/~michael.nelson/charms/precise/nrpe/install-nagios-plugins-basic/+merge/206149
[21:06] <jcastro> another easy one, I've +1ed, need a charmer to ACK/merge: https://code.launchpad.net/~dannf/charms/precise/mediawiki/restrict-ppa-to-precise/+merge/233062
[21:10] <aisrael> marcoceppi: https://code.launchpad.net/~jacekn/charms/precise/haproxy/haproxy-stats-socket/+merge/207263
[21:12]  * aisrael is reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~jose/charms/precise/buildbot-master/1297558-fix/+merge/212751
[21:16] <kwmonroe> mbruzek, por favor, put https://code.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/charms/precise/stackmobile/added-icon/+merge/183274 into work-in-progress.
[21:19] <aisrael> Needs moving to work in progress: https://code.launchpad.net/~jose/charms/precise/buildbot-master/1297558-fix/+merge/212751
[21:19] <mbruzek> kwmonroe, done.
[21:20] <aisrael> Also needs moving to work in progress: https://code.launchpad.net/~jose/charms/precise/buildbot-slave/1297562-fix/+merge/212752
[21:21] <aisrael> Needs moving to work in progress: https://code.launchpad.net/~james-sapara/charms/precise/redis-master/config-options/+merge/200732
[21:22] <jcastro> https://code.launchpad.net/~dannf/charms/precise/mediawiki/restrict-ppa-to-precise/+merge/233062
[21:23] <jcastro> aisrael, https://code.launchpad.net/~moon127/charms/precise/storage/fstab-fix/+merge/232382
[21:24] <aisrael> ^^ got it
[21:28] <jcastro> aisrael, https://code.launchpad.net/~paulgear/charms/precise/wordpress/fix-git-submodules/+merge/232962
[21:46] <aisrael> marcoceppi: needs to be moved to work in progress: https://code.launchpad.net/~jose/charms/precise/joomla/fix-various/+merge/212895
[21:49] <whit> jcastro, hit me
[21:49] <aisrael> jcastro: feed me more
[21:49] <jcastro> https://code.launchpad.net/~paulcz/charms/precise/logstash-agent/trunk/+merge/188241
[21:50] <jcastro> aisrael, https://code.launchpad.net/~jose/charms/precise/joomla/fix-various/+merge/212895
[21:50] <mbruzek> aisrael, done
[21:50] <aisrael> jcastro: need another
[21:51] <jcastro> https://code.launchpad.net/~chris-gondolin/charms/precise/nrpe-external-master/trunk/+merge/227530
[21:51] <cory_fu> Reviewing: https://code.launchpad.net/~gandelman-a/charms/precise/jenkins/offline_install/+merge/189180
[21:52] <lazyPower-sprint> Ok, ready for another
[21:52] <lazyPower-sprint> jcastro: !
[21:52] <jcastro> aisrael, https://code.launchpad.net/~evarlast/charms/trusty/mediawiki/trusty-port/+merge/226752
[21:52] <mbruzek> reiewing https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+bug/1353197
[21:52] <mup> Bug #1353197: hortonworks hdp2.1 zookeeper charm <Juju Charms Collection:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1353197>
[21:52] <jcastro> https://code.launchpad.net/~xander-h/charms/precise/owncloud/ceph-support/+merge/212588
[21:52] <jcastro> lazyPower-sprint, ^
[21:54] <jcastro> lazyPower-sprint, https://code.launchpad.net/~moon127/charms/precise/storage/fstab-fix/+merge/232382
[22:03] <jcastro> mbruzek, https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+bug/1325700
[22:03] <mup> Bug #1325700: New Charm: Dell OpenManage Server Administrator (OMSA) <Juju Charms Collection:Fix Committed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1325700>
[22:04] <whit> jcastro, hit me
[22:05] <cory_fu> lazyPower-sprint, mbruzek or whomever: https://code.launchpad.net/~gandelman-a/charms/precise/jenkins/offline_install/+merge/189180 should be ok to merge (with conflict resolution), though it's been a long time since it was proposed.  Bug is still open, though, and it seems reasonable
[22:05] <cory_fu> jcastro: hit me
[22:05] <jcastro> cory_fu, https://code.launchpad.net/~moon127/charms/precise/storage/fstab-fix/+merge/232382
[22:07] <whit> jcastro, HIT ME
[22:09] <lazyPower-sprint> merged: https://code.launchpad.net/~moon127/charms/precise/storage/fstab-fix/+merge/232382
[22:09] <lazyPower-sprint> jcastro: we doin 1 more?
[22:10] <jcastro> lazyPower-sprint, https://code.launchpad.net/~gnuoy/charms/trusty/mysql/lp-1353135/+merge/230932
[23:06] <jose> arosales, tvansteenburgh, bcsaller, mbruzek, lazyPower-sprint, kwmonroe, aisrael, cory_fu, jcastro: good work on triaging the queue, guys! /me gives all of you a cookie
[23:07] <jose> and mup deserves a cookie too
[23:16] <arosales> jose, ya the team is taking care of bizness at the sprint :-)
[23:17] <jose> I noticed :)
[23:17] <jose> I'm fixing my old broken MPs too
[23:33] <mbruzek> jose,  thanks for noticing!
[23:45] <kwmonroe> mbruzek, would you set this to Work in Progress too: https://code.launchpad.net/~gnuoy/charms/trusty/rabbitmq-server/lp-1355848/+merge/231528
[23:46] <mbruzek> kwmonroe, there is a long history with rabbitmq
[23:46] <mbruzek> and the default values.
[23:46] <mbruzek> kwmonroe, we have to talk about this one.
[23:47] <kwmonroe> ack - thx mbruzek
[23:49] <jose> mbruzek: https://code.launchpad.net/~jose/charms/precise/joomla/fix-various/+merge/212895 is one you'll probably not nack :P
[23:49] <mbruzek> jose on it.
[23:49] <jose> thanks!


[03:18] <mup> PR snapd#13078 opened: wrappers: install snapd .desktop files on core <Created by robert-ancell> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13078>
[03:28] <mup> PR snapd#13079 opened: i/b/desktop: allow desktop slots to provide notifications <Created by robert-ancell> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13079>
[03:43] <mup> PR snapd#13080 opened: usersession: show reboot notification on core desktop <Created by robert-ancell> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13080>
[06:54] <mup> PR snapd#13041 closed: release: detect if we're running on core desktop <Needs Samuele review> <Created by robert-ancell> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13041>
[11:00] <mup> PR snapd#13081 opened: aspects: parse and validate maps and simple strings <aspects> <Created by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13081>
[11:36] <mup> PR snapd#13082 opened: cmd/snap,asserts,a/signtool: optional cross-checking with the account-key when signing <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13082>
[12:01] <mup> PR snapd#13083 opened: o/snapstate: remove snap data home directories <Created by ZeyadYasser> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13083>
[12:21] <mup> PR snapd#13084 opened: snapd/gadgets: remove unused isSameRelativeOffset function <Simple 😃> <Skip spread> <Created by ZeyadYasser> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13084>
[12:21] <mup> PR snapd#13085 opened: i/b/bool-file: Allow configuring trigger, delay_on and delay_off fiel… <Created by bugraaydogar> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13085>
[13:16] <mup> Issue snapcraft#4316 opened: Legacy builds may result in inconsistent version being set <Bug> <Created by cmatsuoka> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/issues/4316>
[13:26] <mup> Issue snapcraft#4317 opened:  Integrate craft-cli's "streaming brief" mode into Snapcraft <Enhancement> <Created by tigarmo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/issues/4317>
[13:31] <mup> Issue snapcraft#4318 opened: remote-build: add control logic for snap base <Enhancement> <Created by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/issues/4318>
[13:31] <mup> Issue snapcraft#4319 opened: remote-build: add control logic for envvar `SNAPCRAFT_REMOTE_BUILD_STRATEGY` <Enhancement> <Created by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/issues/4319>
[13:36] <mup> Issue snapcraft#4320 opened: remote-build: create wrapper for the GitPython library <Enhancement> <Created by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/issues/4320>
[13:36] <mup> Issue snapcraft#4321 opened: remote-build: add control logic when the project is in a git repo <Enhancement> <Created by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/issues/4321>
[13:41] <mup> Issue snapcraft#4322 opened: remote-build: migrate build-id hash generation <Enhancement> <Created by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/issues/4322>
[13:41] <mup> Issue snapcraft#4323 opened: remote-build: migrate legacy remote-build code <Enhancement> <Created by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/issues/4323>
[13:47] <mup> Issue snapcraft#4324 opened: remote-build: refactor work area <Enhancement> <Created by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/issues/4324>
[16:47] <mup> PR snapd#13086 opened: o/h/ctlcmd/mount.go: Remove a useless start <Needs Documentation -auto-> <Created by valentindavid> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13086>
[23:38] <mup> PR snapcraft#4325 opened: build(deps): bump tornado from 6.3.2 to 6.3.3 in /docs/.sphinx <Dependencies> <Python> <Created by dependabot[bot]> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4325>


[00:28] <gamerchick02> _stink_ yeah it did
[00:42] <cmaloney> evening
[15:01] <cmaloney> 1;2cGOod morning
[15:02] <cmaloney> Well, that was random
[15:08] <Zimdale> Interesting way of spelling good.
[16:06] <cmaloney> heh
[17:17] <shakes808> must be a good ~hung over~ morning?
[17:53] <wolfger> Ha!
[23:37] <gamerchick02> choromecast audio is AWESOME. just sayin'
[23:41] <gamerchick02> *chromecast. i can't type. haha
[23:41] <Scary_Guy> pretty sure we all knew what you meant
[23:48] <jrwren> is it?
[23:49] <jrwren> i don't know. I already have BT speakers. I don't know for what I'd use chromecast audio