[19:34] <dimitri> wileee, dude you could just tell me then some UBUNTU based advices instead of letting me wanna change back to windows
[19:34] <squinty> ari-tczew,  might want to ask in #kubuntu
[19:35] <tgm4883> dimitri: you could try re-running pwmconfig
[19:35] <wileee> dimitri, I'm nicely informing you, it is a channel rule, is all
[19:35] <dimitri> tgm4883, have tried that 2 times.
[19:36] <dimitri> wileee, then join elementary os and help me there... or per PM
[19:36] <tgm4883> also, why would we want to possibly waste our time giving you ubuntu based advice when it could be something funky elementary is doing?
[19:36] <wileee> yeah right, lol
[19:37] <lcurtis> could someone tell me why this rule does not allow dns queries on ubuntu 14.04?
[19:37] <lcurtis> :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0]
[19:37] <lcurtis> :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0]
[19:37] <lcurtis> :OUTPUT ACCEPT [39:19724]
[19:37] <lcurtis> -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
[19:37] <lcurtis> -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
[19:37] <tgm4883> dimitri: you could always just install Ubuntu ;)
[19:38] <dimitri> tgm4883, i guess ill get the same error there...
[19:38] <ki7mt> yes, then use the package fancontrol to deal with it, but I've no idea what the controls are in EOS.
[19:38] <tgm4883> dimitri: it's possible, it's also possible that it will work fine
[19:40] <Bashing-om> tats: "http://ppa.launchpad.net/sunab/kdenlive-release/ubuntu " still active as 'trusty' ; disable it and make a note to update to 'vivid' as vivid does support it .// another to follow .
[19:41] <dimitri> tgm4883, it seems like i even cant change to /etc/fancontrol
[19:42] <dimitri> tgm4883, like its not a directory
[19:42] <tgm4883> dimitri: is it a.... file?
[19:43] <Bashing-om> tats: " deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/videolan/master-daily/ubuntu vivid main " Is this the cilprit ? What is videolan ?
[19:43] <ki7mt> If it is, it's in the wrong place, and should not be in /etc
[19:43] <dimitri> tgm4883,  idk xD in etc/fancontrol/ should be a conf file
[19:43] <Bashing-om> culprit *
[19:43] <tgm4883> dimitri: weird, sounds like Elementary OS is doing something funky there...
[19:43] <cryptodan_laptop> Bashing-om: videolan is the site to get VLC
[19:44] <ki7mt> the binary should probably be in /usr/sbin/fancontrol . and the init.d in /etc/init.d/fancontrol
[19:45] <ki7mt> dimitri, This is why we dont support other OS's, and you should discuss in EOS channel.
[19:45] <Jordan_U> dimitri: Please grab a LiveCD/USB of Ubuntu 15.04 and come back for help when you're actually using Ubuntu (even if only from the LiveCD, before installing). The next question you ask about Elementary OS here will result in a one hour mute.
[19:46] <tats> Bashing-om, videolan is a ppa i tried to install as a fix to the problem i had when trying to install vlc. it might be it. the debs have been commented out, the uncommented one is from the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/videolan-ubuntu-master-daily-vivid.list.save file
[19:48] <dimitri> Jordan_U, dude i just dont get why u cant say what it could be. even sth like check this out check that out should help. If a Windows 8 User asks me something , i - a windows 7 user - will try to help him... cause of the fk same base
[19:49] <LambdaComplex> I still haven't figured out the appeal of Elementary. Isn't it just Ubuntu with a fancy DE?
[19:49] <Jordan_U> dimitri: If you'd like to discuss why we have this rule I'd be happy to do so in #ubuntu-ops or #ubuntu-offtopic, but not here.  " Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages..." https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/7dce7c281ab6a490c36a can someone tell me what's up?
[19:51] <wileee> !alis | dima_
[19:51] <Jordan_U> dimitri: Such language and attitude is not appropriate here either. Please come back in one hour after you have hopefully cooled off a bit and booted from Ubuntu proper.
[19:52] <LambdaComplex> Can you install packages when running from a LiveCD?
[19:53] <wileee> LambdaComplex, From a chroot yes, if you mean to an install, live will not save added to it if a disk
[19:53] <Bashing-om> tats: Humm .. maybe we can ppa-purge videolan ? Be aware ppa-purge only works if the corresponding package is in our software repository .
[19:53] <LambdaComplex> wileee: I know it won't be persistent, but can you at least install?
[19:53] <Jordan_U> LambdaComplex: Yes. The only limitation is the amount of RAM you have, as any changes you make to the system while in the Live environment are stored in RAM (and swap) only.
[19:53] <wileee> LambdaComplex, Yeah
[19:54] <wileee> LambdaComplex, YOu want to go to software & sources and untick the disk and do an update is all
[19:54] <LambdaComplex> Perhaps I should suggest to dimitri that he tries it from an Ubuntu LiveCD. If it worked there, it'd clearly be an Elementary issue.
[19:55] <wileee> I would not touch it with a 100 ft pole
[19:55] <tats> Bashing-om, it yields "Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: videolan stable-daily"
[19:55] <LambdaComplex> wileee: Touch what? Elementary?
[19:55] <wileee> no support at all from this channel
[19:56] <hexafraction> LambdaComplex: I have had discrepancies between live CD and full install behavior on the very first day, in regard to hardware working or not. Might not apply here, just saying.
[19:56] <wileee> let it go, the mods have taken care of the issue
[19:56] <LambdaComplex> hexafraction: Extra drivers on the LiveCD, maybe?
[19:56] <wafflejock> hexafraction: yeah have heard of this happening to people (have had it happen myself with wireless drivers but think it was 12.04 at the time)
[19:56] <Bashing-om> tats: Next up, did the author of videolan provide a UNinstall script, or directions to remove it ?
[19:57] <hexafraction> wafflejock: Wireless for myself as well.
[19:59] <tats> Bashing-om, not that i know of
[20:00] <mustmodify> I've been seeing a lot of this lately... " Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages..." https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/7dce7c281ab6a490c36a can someone tell me what's up?
[20:02] <hexafraction> Why doesn't ubiquity install extra drivers that end up on the CD but not on an installation by default, if it sees the module is loaded?
[20:02] <wileee> mustmodify, Pastbin an apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:03] <ki7mt> why do a dist upgrade?
[20:04] <ki7mt> Theres only 2 pkg deps for the whois package libc6 which is on about everythign and the intl package.
[20:04] <tats> Bashing-om, should i re-add the ppa and ppa-purge it? would that uninstall the stuff?
[20:04] <wileee> ki7mt, Did not say to accept it, just there are kernels in the error, trying to see whats in these commands
[20:05] <mustmodify> wileee: gist updated https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/7dce7c281ab6a490c36a
[20:06] <wileee> mustmodify, What is after thew last line you show on the update, any there?
[20:06] <Bashing-om> tats: I have no idea then as to how to remove it from the system . I do think that it is a likely cause of the elevated library versions .
[20:06] <wileee> the*
[20:08] <mustmodify> wileee: nope. Last line is "reading package lists... Done" then the prompt.
[20:08] <wileee> mustmodify, Thanks, not sure here, just a general check is all.
[20:08] <mustmodify> sure
[20:09] <Bashing-om> tats: The videolan PPA is still active. ( each time we update the system, any change we may have made gets over ridden ). Dealing with an UNsupported PPA is not in my experience . I can access the site - like you - and see what I can learn .
[20:10] <ki7mt> wileee, the problem is, most likely, the out dataed kernel, apt-get wont let you update or modify the. Possible solution, remove the old kernels, then update && upgrade.
[20:10] <programo> Hi I have deleted the directory Desktop from home and then created a new directory Desktop.I switched to created a file on Desktop, but I am unable to delete the file
[20:10] <dom01> !list
[20:11] <wileee> ki7mt, Cool, I have the same kernels in trusty, the stack upgrade has always crashed my setup is all.
[20:11] <wileee> mustmodify, Do you see the comment on you issue by ki7mt ?
[20:12] <mustmodify> wileee: I saw it, thanks.
[20:12] <loa> hello. can somebody explain be, why i have black borders around my console, i have uvesafb and proprietary nvidia driver, it looks like so https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/12082015496.jpg
[20:12] <ki7mt> wileee, use: dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d'  to list the old kernels .. the if you want | xargs to purge
[20:12] <ivan_on_trac> I set up a local server ubuntu packages 12.04. But I get an error. When I run "apt-get update" ->
[20:12] <ivan_on_trac> W: Failed to fetch http://repositorio.claudino.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[20:12] <tats> Bashing-om, how can it still be active if i purged it (i am pretty sure I ppa-purged it two days ago, though I am not sure if I was successfull in doing so). also i want to point out that vlc would not install already before i installed the ppa (i actually installed it in an attempt to fix vlc)
[20:12] <mustmodify> wileee: this is a relatively fresh install so I'm skeptical, but I'll check it out.
[20:13] <wileee> ki7mt, Heh that is my favorite command, I never use it however, I remove imm
[20:13] <tats> Bashing-om, i will have a look at the website
[20:13] <wileee> immediately*
[20:13] <wileee> mustmodify, Really, must be an older download is all.
[20:14] <stacks88> ive got this ubuntu 14.04 server/box running apache2 (apt-get install apache2 php etc), and sshd thats it. i noticed today in /tmp there is a growing file, -rw-------  1 daemon daemon  82M Aug 12 16:14 phpiMvgaQ -- it was 46mb a few mins ago now 82mb.. how can i find out what this is or, where its coming from, or any strategy to help figure out what is creating this ?
[20:14] <programo> I am unable to delete a file from Desktop GUI
[20:14] <mustmodify> wileee: It's Ubuntu 14.04 which, IIRC, is still supported...
[20:15] <programo> Can someone help me out?
[20:15] <mustmodify> programo: `sudo make me a sandwich` ?
[20:15] <wileee> mustmodify, Yeah, it a is a ltl, it just has sectioned releases that have kernel upgrades included in downloads.
[20:16] <wileee> err iso downloads mustmodify
[20:16] <mustmodify> Oh. What's a "recent" kernel?
[20:16] <programo> I have used rm command , but did not work
[20:17] <wileee> mustmodify, I'm not your best source in this area for exact answer is all, others here can quite well.
[20:17] <squinty> ivan_on_trac,  might want to try logging onto that address with your web browser.  here it gets a redirect to hugedomains.com with a "for sale" message.  maybe try switching servers
[20:17] <ki7mt> mustmodify, my 14.04 box is: 3.13.0-61-generic
[20:18] <ki7mt> But I also have from 0-24 through 0-59 on the system; I need to clean house a bit too :-)
[20:18] <Bashing-om> tats: Well ! videolan is the upstream vlc . And as such and it is a supported PPA, we should be able to ppa-purge back to what is in our repository . What is the ppa-purge command you ran ?
[20:20] <tats> Bashing-om, sudo ppa-purge ppa:videolan/master-daily
[20:20] <mustmodify> ki7mt: I'm using 3.13.0-58-generic
[20:20] <mustmodify> which seems pretty close.
[20:21] <ki7mt> what version of UB you on?
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> mustmodify  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[20:22] <mustmodify> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[20:23] <mustmodify> jw@logopolis:/projects/mustmodify/www$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:    Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Release:        14.04 Codename:       trusty
[20:23] <ki7mt> or lsb_release -sd :-)
[20:24] <programo> Got the issue solved !
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> mustmodify  3.16.0-45-generic is the most recent kernel for 14.04
[20:24] <ki7mt> +1 I was bout to post that.
[20:25] <tats> Bashing-om, so should i reinstall the repo and re-run ppa-purge? cause right now it doesn't recognize it
[20:25] <tats> (pbly cause i purged it...)
[20:26] <mustmodify> MonkeyDust: So is my kernel being out-of-date causing this problem?
[20:26] <ivan_on_trac> squinty: This address is only available on my local network. It is a local mirror with all Ubuntu packages 12.04 and 14.04.
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> mustmodify  i havent followed, but  i gues it's wise to upgrade
[20:27] <JOW> Hey guys, is there a specific chat dedicated to ROS ( robot operational system )?
[20:27] <Bashing-om> tats: Wont hurt to try. I can find no fault with the ppa-purge command to remove it . Your last paste shows the PPA as an active one .
[20:27] <tats> Bashing-om, notice that when i was in 14.04 i had this ppa installed: https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ubuntu/trusty-media ; i was supposed to remove it before upgrading to 15.04 but i forgot. this might be what broke the system.
[20:27] <squinty> !alis > JOW
[20:27] <OerHeks> mustmodify, df -h # will tell you if you have space to put new kernels on
[20:28] <mustmodify> OerHeks: plenty of room on every drive.
[20:29] <tats> Bashing-om, ok. sudo apt-add-repository ppa:videolan/master-daily ran. then ppa-purged it.
[20:30] <mustmodify> MonkeyDust: That's fine, I'm happy to upgrade. I just don't see how this could be related to my issue since my kernel's like less than a year old.
[20:30] <mustmodify> and somehow that's supposed to cause apt-get to stop working?
[20:30] <Bashing-om> tats: I do trust completely mc3man . But I do not know his PPA or what it is for . So can not advise.
[20:31] <squinty> ivan_on_trac,  might want to try the following to generate new lists.    if no errors are reported after the update finishes, you should be good to go    sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/ && sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/apt/lists/partial && sudo apt-get update
[20:32] <Bashing-om> tats: As the PPA videolan ran. now remove the fetch from the sources list file .
[20:33] <xooo> hey
[20:33] <tats> Bashing-om, results of ppa-purge : http://pastebin.com/m2nmcRGj
[20:33] <xooo> could you recommend me any online tutorials which could teach me some stuff about shell/command line?
[20:34] <ki7mt> mustmodify, MonkeyDust If you dont do the LTS Stack enable, you wont get the later kernels, e.g. 3.16 series and beyond.
[20:34] <k1l_> !shell
[20:34] <k1l_> xooo: see the bots message above
[20:34] <OerHeks> xooo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommandlineHowto and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal are a good start
[20:35] <monster> So I build a vagrant box with docker experimental branch often. When doing this install it hangs on a couple packages every time. linux-firmware and linux-image-extra-3.19.0-23-generic
[20:35] <ki7mt> xooo, and just for add another linky : http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/
[20:35] <monster> I could really use some help resolving why it does that
[20:35] <xooo> the first two links I've already known
[20:36] <xooo> thank you for the third one ki7mt
[20:36] <Plwjr> Hi
[20:37] <ivan_on_trac> squinty: did not work!
[20:37] <ivan_on_trac> W: Failed to fetch http://repositorio.claudino.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[20:37] <ki7mt> xooo, This may also be of interest: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/clicompanion
[20:39] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: Try going to that URL from a browser within your network. I'll bet that it takes you to a server outside your network.
[20:39] <OerHeks> claudino.com is empty & for sale :-D
[20:40] <k1l_> ivan_on_trac: choose another mirror
[20:40] <ki7mt> that may explain it :-)
[20:40] <Bashing-om> tats: ppa-purge will remove that packafe, but does not remove the 'fetch' from your source list. One has to do that one's self . // once that is done and you have removed it and ALL pPPAs are disabled. What now returns ' dpkg -l vlc ' ?
[20:40] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: I'm not sure why you would be using the .com TLD for an intranet domain anyway. That seems like a mistake.
[20:41] <ivan_on_trac> In my network in my browser works.
[20:41] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: What if you "wget http://repositorio.claudino.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources" from the server in question?
[20:41] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: And why are you using the .com TLD for an intranet domain?
[20:42] <ivan_on_trac> k1l_: I do not want another mirror. I want to use my own mirror.
[20:42] <tats> Bashing-om, rc  vlc                                       2.2.1~trusty              amd64                     multimedia player and streamer
[20:42] <ivan_on_trac> Jordan_U: TTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
[20:43] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: Now look at the file "Sources".
[20:43] <k1l_> ivan_on_trac: than make sure your own mirror is setup the right way
[20:43] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: I'll bet 5 internet points that it contains "HugeDomains.com".
[20:43] <k1l_> ivan_on_trac: claudino.com doesnt work
[20:43] <OerHeks> i'll bet 6
[20:44] <ivan_on_trac> Jordan_U: TLD?!
[20:44] <ki7mt> Use the IP address rather than the domain name in the URL
[20:44] <Bashing-om> tats: Not at all as expected or desired . OK, all PPAs are now disabled, let's take the package manager's advise and ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ' . see what the package manager now has to advise . THEN we try and install vlc .
[20:44] <ki7mt> I do that for my local mirrors as it is not a FQDN
[20:45] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: Top level domain. .com, .edu, .gov are all examples of top level domains that are intended for use with *internet accessible* domains. ".local" is a common top level domain used for domains that are intended to be found only within your network.
[20:45] <Bashing-om> tats: 'sudo apt-get upgrade' **
[20:45] <tats> Bashing-om, ok i guess i should re-add the ppa repo then though (cause i just purged it)
[20:45] <Bashing-om> tats: NO !
[20:45] <tats> Bashing-om, all right :)
[20:46] <tats> Bashing-om, should i do dist-upgrade instead of upgrade or both?
[20:46] <Bashing-om> tats: vlc is in our reppsitory . We want to get your system's libraries in such a state that vlc will install .
[20:46] <tats> Bashing-om, oh sorry i see i nee to do update, upgrade, dist-upgrade
[20:47] <MarMar> HI
[20:48] <artois> hi mar
[20:48] <Bashing-om> tats: all 3 apt-get 's // the 'dist-uprafe' os a bit of a miss nomer .  Has nothing to do with a release upgrade . Uses apt's smart mode to resolve dependenies and install packages that apt normally will not .
[20:48] <daftykins> tats: you do not do both :) dist-upgrade bests upgrade
[20:48] <ivan_on_trac> My sources: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6dulhwnk9rqrh1l/Sources?dl=0
[20:49] <smoke> рш
[20:49] <smoke> рш
[20:49] <smoke> hi
[20:49] <k1l_> !ru | smoke
[20:49] <tats> daftykins, i see
[20:49] <artois> hi
[20:49] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: Please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com .
[20:50] <mustmodify> what's the new nslookup ?
[20:52] <daftykins> mustmodify: dig is ok, but nslookup is still fine to be used.
[20:52] <daftykins> rumours of nslookup's death are greatly exaggerated
[20:52] <mustmodify> dig. That's it.
[20:52] <mustmodify> I can never remember that.
[20:53] <daftykins> try and visualise digging a hole when there are DNS woes
[20:53] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: Do you understand my question now? Why are you using the .com TLD for this server's domain name?
[20:54] <pitastrudl> any recommendations on how to use keepass on ubuntu w/ chrome?
[20:54] <pitastrudl> currently im using it with keepasshttpx
[20:55] <pitastrudl> have to reinstall coz it doesnt support the plugin fml
[20:55] <pitastrudl> found this nifty guide http://maxolasersquad.blogspot.com/2013/10/install-keepasshttp-on-ubuntu.html
[20:56] <ivan_on_trac> Jordan_U: But do you think the problem ".com"? In my browser on the local network works. wget worked well.
[20:58] <Guest46149> hello
[20:58] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: From the server in question please run "wget http://repositorio.claudino.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources -O - 2> /dev/null" and psatebin the output. Also note that even if you weren't having any issues, using .com for a local domain is wrong, and will lead to other problems / confusion.
[20:59] <Bashing-om> Guest46149: Hello. ubuntu support here, you have a question ?
[20:59] <Guest46149> I have to much capacity on my hosting server, so if anyone wants free hosting, mail, dns, mysql, cron with backup all from a web panel, just give me a priv message and Il hook you up
[20:59] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: That is, please run that command from the same machine where "apt-get update" is failing.
[21:00] <potato_farmer> Guest46149, unless you have a contract with explicit TOS, you are on the hook for anything anyone does using your hosting. Proceed with caution.
[21:02] <tgm4883> lol
[21:02] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: Never mind, I now understand what you were posting to dropbox earlier, no need to use "wget -O -". Was that the result of using wget from the same machine on which "sudo apt-get update" is failing though?
[21:06] <ivan_on_trac> Jordan_U: runs without errors.
[21:06] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: What runs without errors?
[21:07] <tats> Bashing-om, ok updates and upgrades done. apt-get install vlc yields the same error
[21:08] <tats> Bashing-om, i'm afraid i have to go for about 2 hours. be back after. sorry about that.
[21:10] <bobo69[TB]> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvsRRSaPltk
[21:18] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: What runs without errors?
[21:20] <ivan_on_trac> Yes on the server itself where the mirror is. runs without errors.
[21:21] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: I'm still not completely clear. I didn't ask you to run wget on the server that is hosting the mirror, I asked you to run it on the server where "sudo apt-get update" is failing.
[21:22] <ivan_on_trac> jordan_U: I did wget on the server where the failure occurs.
[21:25] <crayon> are there any 'gotchas' or security implications to be aware of with the FUSE filesystem?
[21:26] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: OK, I don't know what's going wrong then. I still recommend changing your mirror's domain to repositorio.claudino.local or similar though.
[21:27] <artois> crayon: like what?
[21:27] <Jordan_U> crayon: Not with fuse specifically, but there are definitely security implications with some of the specific filesystems that fuse supports.
[21:27] <crayon> can you expand for me on that thought a bit Jordan_U
[21:27] <artois> like host-all-bank-data-on-my-remote-server-FUSE-fs
[21:28] <eros> salve
[21:28] <artois> crayon: there are no particularly security issues in the more popular FUSE fs implementations
[21:28] <artois> eros: salvete
[21:28] <eros> di cosa si parla in questo canale
[21:28] <Jordan_U> crayon: For example, ntfs has a completely different and not entirely compatible system for permissions as explained here: http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-advanced/ownership-and-permissions/
[21:29] <OerHeks> !it | eros
[21:29] <Jordan_U> crayon: Also, things like httpfs aren't going to get you anything like a fully POSIX compliant filesystem.
[21:29] <eros> thanks
[21:29] <crayon> got it, thanks for explaining that
[21:29] <Jordan_U> crayon: You're welcome.
[21:30] <gbit86__> do they make a terminal app that is an actual cheat sheet app?
[21:30] <EriC^^> gbit86__: cheat sheet app for what?
[21:31] <gbit86__> I am using tmux with multiple panes
[21:31] <gbit86__> I would love to have an app with an index or some sort of concise like man page ability
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> gbit86__  like so, buit in terminal? http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/dir_all_alphabetic.html
[21:35] <adam`> I'm having troubling with mpv
[21:35] <bekks> adam`: Can you be more precise? :)
[21:35] <adam`> When I watch a video it loads the top half of the frame faster than the bottom half
[21:35] <adam`> I don't know what the word for it is
[21:36] <gbit86__> right, ideally an app that takes live input and starts to immediately filter the apps
[21:36] <daftykins> adam`: tearing, perhaps
[21:36] <gbit86__> once you go into the app then a quick summary of all parameters, which can also be filtered down again for more info
[21:36] <gbit86__> or you can use the arrow keys to navigate through them
[21:37] <adam`> Frame tearing? Is there a setting in mpv I can change so that it doesn't have frame tearing?
[21:37] <gbit86__> Speed is what I want, and as few key strokes and reading as possible to get the gist
[21:37] <helpmeplz> I need help, went to Lubuntu channel but no one replied after a long time.
[21:37] <zombyrad> adam`: what video driver are you using?
[21:38] <k1l_> !details | helpmeplz
[21:38] <daftykins> adam`: more of a graphics driver or desktop thing that, 'vsync' typically locks the framerate to display refresh. try running a 3D game, youtube video or glxgears fullscreen and see if it exhibits the same effect
[21:38] <adam`> How do I find out what video driver I'm using?
[21:38] <artois> adam`: lspci -k, probs
[21:39] <zombyrad> adam`: do you know what video card is in your pc?
[21:39] <k1l_> adam`: "lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' "
[21:39] <adam`> Yeah, it happens when I watch Youtube fullscreen too
[21:40] <zombyrad> adam`: running standard ubuntu?
[21:40] <adam`> Running Debian actually
[21:40] <k1l_> adam`: or best is to use : "lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 " and then put all that into a pastebin
[21:40] <zombyrad> What desktom environment?
[21:40] <zombyrad> *desktop
[21:40] <boze> I'm on windows 7 using WMC for an HTPC. Is ubuntu with myth tv + xbmc a good alternative for tv recording?
[21:40] <disconnectedave> what is your favorite remote desktop for a local network
[21:40] <k1l_> adam`: well, then please ask in #debian since they have a differen drivers policy
[21:41] <adam`> Running KDE on Debian
[21:41] <daftykins> adam`: why are you in here?
[21:41] <OerHeks> Try #kde or #debian ... likely
[21:41] <zombyrad> adam`: it's probably a vsync issue related to kde's compsiting
[21:41] <zombyrad> *compositing
[21:42] <daftykins> there's an echo in here :>
[21:42] <zombyrad> Just fixing my typos :p
[21:43] <helpmeplz> Every time I log off my wallpaper and icon placement gets reset. I tried deleting my lxsession folder as it says here since it sounded like a similar problem. http://askubuntu.com/questions/451858/blank-desktop-after-upgrading-lubuntu-to-the-next-version
[21:43] <daftykins> nah i just mean multiple people repeating the same diagnosis is all, but not to worry
[21:44] <blackdog_> hello
[21:44] <daftykins> hi
[21:44] <blackdog_> how is everybody?
[21:44] <nick____> hi
[21:45] <daftykins> !ot | blackdog_
[21:45] <tables> what phone apps are there on linux that are like skype?
[21:45] <blackdog_> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:45] <tgm4883> tables: skype
[21:46] <daftykins> tables: http://alternativeto.net/software/skype/?platform=linux
[21:46] <tgm4883> tables: skype is pretty much like skype
[21:46] <daftykins> Mumble is a good one
[21:46] <OerHeks> tables, unofficial, but worth a look https://uappexplorer.com/apps
[21:46] <MonkeyDust> gbit86__  try this ... ctrl c if it goes berserk  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12065954/
[21:47] <mcphail> tables: firefox can do video calling
[21:47] <artois> tables: don't cross post man :p
[21:47] <daftykins> artois: where else?
[21:47] <EriC^^> ##linux
[21:48] <daftykins> ah har
[21:52] <Guest46149> http://freehosting.skyvault.us/
[21:53] <OerHeks> !spam | Guest46149
[22:12] <IceMint> Hi
[22:13] <IceMint> I need help
[22:13] <OerHeks> IceMint, ask wait and see
[22:13] <IceMint> Ok
[22:16] <k1l_> !details | IceMint
[22:18] <IceMint> Si i have a dual boot on my pc, With Ubuntu and windows seven. But when i shut down after using windows, Ubuntu don't found my usbs anymore, and i have to unplug my PC of the electricity for use my usbs (sorry if my english is bad, i'm french)
[22:18] <IceMint> *So
[22:19] <OerHeks> hmm does windows7 come with Fastboot like windows 8/9/10 ?
[22:20] <IceMint> I think i have activated it in the bios menu
[22:21] <IceMint> !pastebin
[22:21] <OerHeks> Fastboot could prevent the use of usb + wifi, common issue for win 8/10
[22:22] <IceMint> Si i have to desactivate it ?
[22:22] <IceMint> So*
[22:22] <OerHeks> IceMint, yes, good chance you wil be able to use usb, but win7 won't boot that fast, maybe 30 sec slower
[22:23] <IceMint> Ok thanks :) , Thé
[22:23] <IceMint> Oops
[22:23] <IceMint> Sorry
[22:23] <OerHeks> Let us know if it works, IceMint
[22:25] <armands_> hi
[22:25] <IceMint> Ok thanks, i can't test now but i will test later, so thanks (and the boot time doesn't matter) :)
[22:25] <IceMint> Hi armands_
[22:25] <armands_> :)
[22:26] <armands_> installed ubuntu mate
[22:26] <armands_> looks good
[22:27] <eclectichedgehog> mate brings back the good old days ala 10.04
[22:27] <IceMint> Gnome 2
[22:28] <eclectichedgehog> theres an experimental gnome3 too
[22:29] <IceMint> I Doesn't knew this version of ubuntu
[22:29] <OerHeks> !info mate-desktop
[22:30] <eclectichedgehog> IceMint, this is essentially the old version of ubuntu with added bling :)
[22:30] <OerHeks> mate is gnome3 with the old gnome2-look.
[22:30] <IceMint> Ok thanks :)
[22:32] <Chris_______> ?
[22:32] <IceMint> Wait... Why i am op on the ubuntu-fr channel 0_o
[22:32] <Chris_______> Is this like a support ticket
[22:32] <IceMint> ?
[22:33] <IceMint> Here ? Yes
[22:33] <Chris_______> oh
[22:33] <k1l_> !ask | Chris_______
[22:34] <surgy> hello
[22:34] <Chris_______> Yea im was playing league of legends but when the game starts i get a buggy load-sup screen where i can see like 25% of the game
[22:34] <IceMint> ... -_- i don't understand you, why do you say that ?
[22:34] <IceMint> Hello surgy
[22:34] <Chris_______> do you know how to fix it
[22:34] <surgy> if i make a shell script and i want it to start every time ubuntu boots. where do i place the script?
[22:34] <Chris_______> oh
[22:34] <k1l_> Chris_______: using wine, right?
[22:34] <EriC^^> surgy: as your user?
[22:35] <surgy> EriC^^, yes without sudo
[22:35] <EriC^^> open the dash and type startup
[22:35] <IceMint> No, i played leage of legends on windows but no on linux
[22:35] <surgy> EriC^^, im actually on kubuntu but #kubuntu is always sleeping
[22:35] <Chris_______> it works when i play custom
[22:35] <MonkeyDust> surgy  create a cronjob and use @reboot
[22:35] <Chris_______> but when i try to play online
[22:35] <Chris_______> the screen bugs out
[22:35] <k1l_> Chris_______: you are using wine?
[22:35] <surgy> MonkeyDust, you lost me at cronjob
[22:36] <Chris_______> yes
[22:36] <EriC^^> surgy: should be somewhere in system, preferences etc.
[22:36] <k1l_> Chris_______: then see the wine appdb if that is a known issue and how to fix that
[22:36] <k1l_> !wine | Chris_______
[22:36] <MonkeyDust> surgy  in a terminal, type crontab -e and read
[22:37] <Chris_______> can i post links here?
[22:37] <IceMint> Chris_______ :  a lot of games are incompatibles with wine
[22:37] <Chris_______> it was working before
[22:37] <k1l_> Chris_______: best is to see the appdatabase and ask the wine specialists in said channel
[22:37] <surgy> MonkeyDust, oh ok i thought it was just a directory i placed scripts in and it loaded them all at boot
[22:37] <IceMint> So, i don't know.
[22:38] <MonkeyDust> surgy  with cron, you can make your machine run tasks at any given time or time interval, e.g. every day at 5pm, every monday etc
[22:38] <OerHeks> Chris_______, if wineHQ has no solution, try playonlinux,
[22:38] <MonkeyDust> surgy  and also @reboot
[22:38] <surgy> whats @reboot ?
[22:39] <Chris_______> i have playonlinux aswell
[22:39] <Chris_______> nvm
[22:39] <Chris_______> read it wrong
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> surgy  what does it look like? at every reboot, a task is executed
[22:40] <MonkeyDust> surgy  inside the cronjob, that is
[22:40] <surgy> ok
[22:40] <surgy> clear
[22:40] <surgy> oops
[22:41] <surgy> whats the command to ls xinput ?
[22:41] <IceMint> Chris_______ -> on the test of LoL on wine site :
[22:41] <IceMint> "What was not tested
[22:41] <IceMint> : Ranked PvP  "
[22:45] <surgy> ok im running kubuntu 14.04 with kernal 3.19 and im having a problem restricting my graphics tablet to one monitor. i know the command. but im getting an error.... something about multiple devices sharing the same name..... in the following pasteall i have xinput list lsusb and then i ran the command. so that you can see the error and the three "hv huion" that its reffereing to. can someone help me sort out the error please so that the command
[22:45] <surgy> will run? here is the paste :: http://www.pasteall.org/60428
[22:47] <roofag> damn it did botchlab leave for real? woopwoop lulz
[22:48] <OerHeks> surgy,  for Huion all i know is this page, https://github.com/DIGImend/digimend-kernel-drivers
[22:48] <surgy> OerHeks, i just need to know how to use the "id" as the terminal is suggesting. since there are multiple "hv huion"
[22:49] <OerHeks> surgy, likely it is the 'empty' 256c:006e   = Huion 610
[22:49] <surgy> well yeah....
[22:50] <surgy> so instead of xinput set-prop "HV Huion" --type=float "Coordinate Transformation Matrix"  0.5530726257 0 0.4469273743 0 1 0 0 0 1
[22:50] <surgy> i would put  xinput set-prop "256c:006e" --type=float "Coordinate Transformation Matrix"  0.5530726257 0 0.4469273743 0 1 0 0 0 1
[22:50] <surgy> ?
[22:50] <OerHeks> That, i don't know :-(
[22:51] <IceMint> "Hv huion 610 looks like à pen display on Google ... Have you one of these ?
[22:51] <OerHeks> but hey, you have that huion in front of you
[22:51] <surgy> thats the information i need. not specificly hardware related but instead its more of a syntax question
[22:51] <OerHeks> you tell us ...
[22:51] <surgy> no i have a huion 580
[22:51] <IceMint> ...ok
[22:51] <surgy> its a graphics tablet... . a usb gadget to let you paint or draw with a stylus on a desktop computer
[22:52] <IceMint> I know what is graphic tablet
[22:52] <OerHeks> good company, multiple tablets with the same USB id ..
[22:52] <IceMint> Try to unplug it !
[22:53] <JayTeeZee> if i dual boot ubuntu and android which one should i install first?
[22:53] <JayTeeZee> would grub see both?
[22:53] <surgy> IceMint, if i unplug and xinput list it goes away and then replug and xinput list and it shows three hv huions again
[22:53] <OerHeks> JayTeeZee, ubuntu, because of the grub2 bootloader
[22:53] <surgy> i mean it says hv huion id = 11
[22:54] <surgy> or 12 or 13
[22:54] <surgy> i just dont know how to use the id to specificly call one
[22:54] <IceMint> surgy : the bugs appears when the tablet is disconected ?
[22:54] <surgy> bugs?
[22:54] <IceMint> Wait
[22:54] <surgy> IceMint, the tablet works great.
[22:55] <IceMint> Ok no i have understand
[22:55] <IceMint> xD
[22:55] <surgy> IceMint, i just have to restrict it to a specific resolution on a certain screen. which is what the comand is for.
[22:56] <IceMint> Does your tablet have a screen ?
[22:56] <surgy> IceMint, but when i run the command it gives me the error because there are indeed multiple items with the same name. and it says it requires a specific id. but i dont know how to pass that parameter to the terminal when i issue the command
[22:56] <surgy> IceMint, no...
[22:57] <JayTeeZee> the chinese people who made my tablet didn't see fit to install it with a legal copy of windows so i am installing ubuntu for real work and android for compatibility
[22:57] <k1l_> JayTeeZee: tablets dont work that way.
[22:58] <IceMint> Oh, i don't know this command, sorry
[22:58] <JayTeeZee> it is a windoze tablet that is fully open
[22:58] <JayTeeZee> core m
[22:59] <surgy> how do i issue this command and use the specific device ID  or prefix instead of "hv Huion" ? :: xinput set-prop "HV Huion" --type=float "Coordinate Transformation Matrix"  0.5530726257 0 0.4469273743 0 1 0 0 0 1
[22:59] <IceMint> I got it
[22:59] <kadiro> hi
[22:59] <JayTeeZee> k11_
[22:59] <IceMint> On the end of this page :https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=232748
[23:00] <JayTeeZee> does ubuntu see most touchscreens or is that a pain in the ass?
[23:01] <IceMint> You can change the résolution of your screen surgy
[23:01] <k1l_> JayTeeZee: on tablet hardware that really really really depends on the tablets. if it is build with general PC hardware chances are good. but if its smartphone hardware its going to be diffuczlt
[23:01] <JayTeeZee> it is built with general pc hardware
[23:01] <surgy> IceMint, thats not the issue...
[23:02] <kadiro> surgy: what's the problem?
[23:02] <JayTeeZee> though linux mint didn't see it .. i(I only went for ubuntu because i realized i hated the interface of linux mint)
[23:02] <kadiro> because the message above look like chineese language
[23:03] <surgy> kadiro,  ok im running kubuntu 14.04 with kernal 3.19 and im having a problem restricting my graphics tablet to one monitor. i know the command. but im getting an error.... something about multiple devices sharing the same name..... in the following pasteall i have xinput list lsusb and then i ran the command. so that you can see the error and the three "hv huion" that its reffereing to. can someone help me sort out the error please so that the
[23:03] <surgy>  command will run? here is the paste :: http://www.pasteall.org/60428
[23:03] <surgy> kadiro, how do i issue this command and use the specific device ID  or prefix instead of "hv Huion" ? :: xinput set-prop "HV Huion" --type=float "Coordinate Transformation Matrix"  0.5530726257 0 0.4469273743 0 1 0 0 0 1
[23:03] <JayTeeZee> does wacom linux do pressure sensativity?
[23:03] <surgy> JayTeeZee, yes
[23:05] <surgy> kadiro, any idea?
[23:07] <kadiro> surgy: i have no idea about multiple monitors, but like in pasteall said that you have a multiple device and you must choose the correct one
[23:07] <surgy> kadiro, exactly. thats exactly my problem. so how do i do that? how do i choose a device and enter that command using the id number instead of the name?
[23:08] <kadiro> the id apear in lsusb ( number ) surgy but how to put it i don't know
[23:09] <kadiro> for ex: instead to put Logitech, Inc you put it's ID: 046d:c326
[23:11] <boze> my monitor gives a bad edid. so I exported one from windows and created a new xorg.conf with a "CustomEDID" line. Now it boots to black screen :(
[23:11] <boze> is there a way to boot into "safe mode" so i can remove that line?
[23:12] <surgy> kadiro, thank you
[23:12] <IceMint> Try to write the id and not the name (without " ")
[23:12] <IceMint> Ok too late xD
[23:12] <kadiro> surgy: the ID is composed in two one, VID:PID
[23:12] <kadiro> you welcome surgy
[23:13] <IceMint> kadiro : surgy has left
[23:13] <kadiro> :/
[23:14] <Bashing-om> boze: Grub menu -> advance options -> recovery >> in the recovery console also chhose "enable networking" to remount the file system for writing. Root terminal now to edit the file .
[23:15] <IceMint> So in my country it's 01:14 am so i'll go to sleep^^ have a good... Day ?
[23:16] <kadiro> good night IceMint
[23:16] <IceMint> thanks from the france
[23:17] <kadiro> don't close the door i coming soon :p
[23:17] <IceMint> Ok !
[23:17] <kadiro> i know IceMint :)
[23:17] <JayTeeZee> getting rid of this stupid windoze install that is illega anyways knowing my luck my sellers dispute will go through
[23:17] <kadiro> bonne nuit ;)
[23:17] <IceMint> Merci :p
[23:17] <kadiro> hihi ^^
[23:18] <JayTeeZee> it looks like linux apps have gotten to the point where one can do full desaign from the os
[23:18]  * IceMint has leave the door open
[23:18] <kadiro> thk's man hahah
[23:19] <boze> Bashing-om: grub doesn't open when I hold shift. It's a fresh install :/
[23:19] <JayTeeZee> my main pet peeve was that inkscape couldn't export to illustrator
[23:19] <wileee> JayTeeZee, Can we just stick with support?
[23:21] <tgm4883> sometimes when I resume my laptop from suspend, I'll get the lightdm login screen and after I login my laptop display will turn off. Where should I start looking at this?
[23:21] <JayTeeZee> i am asking for support just wondering about drivers and things i remember it used to be a bit of a hassle getting set up
[23:22] <wileee> JayTeeZee, Right but the commentary is not really allowed here, it clogs the channel, and has only meaning to you. ;)
[23:22] <JayTeeZee> do most of the realtek wifi cards detect in ubuntu?
[23:22] <Gollond> Im having trouble logging into Ubuntu 15.04
[23:22] <usr13> JayTeeZee: Yes
[23:22] <kadiro> yes JayTeeZee
[23:23] <Gollond> On boot up it goes to passphrase screen quickly, but it doesnt allow me to type in passphrase
[23:23] <JayTeeZee> touch digitizers?
[23:23] <usr13> !wifi | JayTeeZee
[23:23] <wileee> Gollond, Can you get a login in a tty?
[23:24] <wileee> Gollond, Is the keyboard not working?
[23:24] <Gollond> If i reset comp it goes to GRUB then I can login. But i have to reset after every boot up
[23:24] <wileee> Gollond, Use nick here, reset how?
[23:25] <fizk_> Hi, does anyone know of an open source project that bundles a lot of different software, a type of "enterprise-in-a-box" type thing?
[23:25] <Gollond> Keyboard is fine. Just the initial login screen wont allow
[23:25] <Gollond> Reset by pressing reset button on tower
[23:25] <tgm4883> fizk_: client or server?
[23:25] <wileee> oh well never hurts to try
[23:25] <Bashing-om> boze: UEFI ? Then it is the escape key that grub looks for .
[23:25] <Trel> I have a question, assuming a Ubuntu server (no GUI) what's the quickest most painless way to run a VM of another server off it?
[23:25] <fizk_> tgm4883, server
[23:25] <surgy> so let me see if i have the right..... if i want to run a script everytime my computer reboots i can type "crontab -e" and then add @reboot /home/surgy/Documents/scripts/./huion580.sh  and it will run that script for use surgy on every reboot?
[23:26] <JayTeeZee> do most touch digitizers work out of the box?
[23:26] <tgm4883> surgy: that looks correct to me, you shouldn't need the /./ though
[23:26] <usr13> !vm | Trel
[23:26] <wileee> !patience | JayTeeZee
[23:27] <surgy> tgm4883, im kindof a noob..... i dont need to ./huion580.sh ?
[23:27] <surgy> ./ means execute right?
[23:27] <surgy> i have allready chmod +x huion580.sh
[23:27] <tgm4883> surgy: no, well yes.. ./ means "in the current directory", but you've specified the full path, so it's unnecessary
[23:27] <kadiro> surgy: why you puting " ./ " before a name of your script?
[23:28] <Trel> usr13 I am aware of what most of the options are, I'm asking what the quickest and most straight forward to setup in a console only environment is.
[23:28] <surgy> tgm4883, so i can just /home/surgy/Documents/scripts/huion580.sh  ?
[23:28] <tgm4883> surgy: yes
[23:28] <kadiro> yes
[23:28] <surgy> kadiro, because i wish to execute the script
[23:28] <kadiro> surgy: yes but without a dot
[23:28] <usr13> surgy: As a server?  (If it's console, why not just ssh?)
[23:29] <surgy> usr13, idk what your talking about :)
[23:29] <usr13> surgy: Sorry, wrong nick
[23:29] <kadiro> loll
[23:29] <boze> Bashing-om: tyvm
[23:29] <kadiro> sorry
[23:30] <Bashing-om> boze: :)
[23:31] <surgy> usr13, np :)
[23:31] <usr13> surgy: Sorry, wrong nick
[23:31] <fizk_> it would include a bunch of things pre-installed and ready to go, like an email server, web mail, XMPP chat, nodeBB forums, Haste paste bin, Redmine, Lychee photo sharing, ownCloud document sharing, etc, etc.
[23:31] <tgm4883> fizk_: you could use something like http://www.zentyal.org/
[23:31] <retc9201> HI!
[23:31] <tgm4883> personally, I'd just set it all up myself though
[23:31] <surgy> ok thank you guys very very much
[23:31] <surgy> time to test the new script :)
[23:32] <kadiro> good luck surgy
[23:32] <retc9201> how is tell memory bad??
[23:32] <Bashing-om> retc9201: Let the memory test in the grub boot menu run over night .
[23:33] <retc9201> that will fix??
[23:33] <kadiro> retc9201: no that will show
[23:34] <retc9201> not fix?
[23:34] <kadiro> no :/
[23:34] <Bashing-om> retc9201: ^ if it shows bad, the only fix is "replace" .
[23:34] <fizk_> tgm4883, thanks, that's neat, but still too small
[23:34] <surgy> ok so i rebooted
[23:34] <retc9201> OK. thx + peace
[23:35] <kadiro> you welcome retc9201
[23:35] <surgy> and i also tested the script and the script is still working...... but it did not automaticly start at reboot
[23:35] <tgm4883> fizk_: I know nothing that does everything you want
[23:35] <tgm4883> nor would I want that much running on one server
[23:35] <tgm4883> maybe docker or lxc containers for each
[23:36] <fizk_> tgm4883, yeah, I figure most companies would do this piece by piece to match the features they're looking for, but if they wanted to be able to just launch a VPS and have a mini-enterprise ready to go, that would be interesting
[23:36] <tgm4883> fizk_: s/interesting/awful/
[23:37] <fizk_> tgm4883, yeah, it could be separated into containers for each, but comes pre-installed and ready for us
[23:37] <fizk_> tgm4883, why awful? :)
[23:37] <daftykins> fizk_: having all those services on a single box, VM or not - would be a mistake :)
[23:37] <fizk_> daftykins, for security reasons, or something else?
[23:37] <surgy> this :: @reboot /home/surgy/Documents/scripts/huion580.sh did not autmaticly start my script on reboot...... what did i do wrong?
[23:37] <kadiro> surgy: depend on the DE used, in lxde you add it in autostart and it will be startup in every boot
[23:37] <daftykins> for logic and sanity reasons
[23:37] <tgm4883> kadiro: no, that would be the wrong way to do it
[23:38] <surgy> kadiro, its kubuntu 14.04 and i entered that into crontab -e
[23:38] <tgm4883> surgy: are you sure it didn't run the script and fail?
[23:38] <kadiro> tgm4883: it work for me may be a different from a distribution to others
[23:38] <tgm4883> surgy: maybe have it echo something to a tmp file at the beginning of the script
[23:38] <fizk_> daftykins, long term, yes, but short term, I think it'd be ok
[23:39] <tgm4883> kadiro: well the issue with the way you stated, is that it would only fire off when the user logs in, not at reboot
[23:39] <tgm4883> surgy: which version of ubuntu?
[23:39] <surgy> tgm4883, maybe crond isnt auto starting on boot?
[23:39] <surgy> tgm4883, kubuntu 14.04 lts kernal 3.19
[23:39] <kadiro> tgm4883: yes you right sorry i am confused
[23:40] <daftykins> fizk_: regardless they are the kinds of things you have to reconfigure for a given company anyway, so nothing like that could be ready to go really
[23:40] <tgm4883> surgy: that should work, I believe I've done that on my 14.04 boxes
[23:40] <adante> k1l_: i know about the error because i've experienced it before when i have had a monitor plugged in
[23:40] <surgy> tgm4883, only thing i can think is that crond isnt auto starting.... hwo do i double check to see if its set to start win kubuntu boots ?
[23:42] <fizk_> daftykins, yeah, I probably shouldn't have said company. I'm thinking more like a small group of people that don't have the time to figure out how to setup all those softwares individually, but would love to use them if they were ready to go
[23:42] <kadiro> tgm4883: is systemctl and systemd do a same job like crontab?
[23:43] <daftykins> fizk_: still applies i'm afraid, as you'd have to do even the most basic of feeding such a VM / install what domain you have :) e.g. peoplesserver.com
[23:43] <tgm4883> fizk_: nobody is going to want to maintain that distro
[23:43] <tgm4883> kadiro: well you could do it via those
[23:44] <surgy> tgm4883, so now what? where do i go from here? if i did everything right and it didnt work?
[23:44] <tgm4883> surgy: have you tried to echo to a file at the top of that script?
[23:44] <kadiro> tgm4883: good thk's for your help
[23:44]  * tgm4883 tries to remember which server he did that on
[23:44] <surgy> tgm4883, im just now learning scripting..... how would i do that?
[23:44] <fizk_> daftykins, the basic things like domain name can be automated in a script
[23:45] <tgm4883> surgy: something like "echo 'TESTING' > /tmp/testfile"
[23:45] <fizk_> daftykins, what is peoplesserver.com? I'm getting "The domain peoplesserver.com may be for sale."
[23:45] <tgm4883> fizk_: again, nobody is going to wait to maintain all the scripts required to do all that
[23:46] <daftykins> fizk_: *sigh* that was my example
[23:46] <fizk_> tgm4883, yeah, I hear you, maintaining all the software will be tough, but I think do-able
[23:46] <daftykins> fizk_: regardless this is more discussion and belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic and not here where it's OS support :)
[23:46] <tgm4883> fizk_: possibly doable, but it's such a small amount of people that would use that it seems unnecessary
[23:46] <surgy> tgm4883, like this ? echo 'TEST' > /home/surgy/Documents/scripts/testfile
[23:46] <fizk_> daftykins, ah ok
[23:47] <tgm4883> surgy: yea
[23:47] <surgy> tgm ok trying
[23:47] <tgm4883> surgy: This is mine "@reboot /root/start_lxc_machines.sh"
[23:47] <tgm4883> it's in my root crontab
[23:48] <aqqw1> j #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:49] <surgy> tgm4883, well it printed "test" in the test file... but it seams the commands im trying to issue in the script didnt work....... maybe i need a small delay so that the drivers have time to load?
[23:50] <tgm4883> surgy: can you post the script?
[23:50] <tgm4883> surgy: actually, do this
[23:50] <tgm4883> surgy: can you post your crontab line again
[23:51] <kadiro> tgm4883: i think  @reboot /home/surgy/Documents/scripts/huion580.sh
[23:51] <surgy> tgm4883, heres the script
[23:51] <k> picke!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:51] <Guest98205> drkate ga, jel? :D
[23:52] <surgy> tgm4883, here is the crontab line @reboot /home/surgy/Documents/scripts/huion580.sh
[23:52] <tgm4883> surgy: change your crontab line to this "@reboot /home/surgy/Documents/scripts/huion580.sh >> /home/surgy/Documents/scripts/cron.log 2>&1"
[23:52] <tgm4883> surgy: that will print the output of the script and any error messages to that cron.log file in your scripts directory
[23:52] <tgm4883> surgy: maybe we'll see something important
[23:53] <surgy> tgm ok let me save and reboot again
[23:55] <surgy> tgm4883, yo
[23:55] <tgm4883> yo yo
[23:55] <surgy> tgm4883, yeah its what i thought the script is trying to execute too early
[23:55] <surgy> tgm4883, i got three "unable to connect to X server"
[23:55] <tgm4883> surgy: what does the script do?
[23:56] <surgy> tgm4883, so maybe i need to run the script like 30 seconds after boot or something?
[23:56] <kadiro> may be need a root prevelege i guess?
[23:56] <surgy> tgm4883, it restricts the cursor of my graphics tablet to one monitor
[23:56] <tgm4883> surgy: hmm
[23:56] <surgy> tgm4883, so the left side of the tablet is mapped to the left side of my right monitor
[23:57] <tgm4883> surgy: well, I would think that the correct way to do that would be making a systemd service that runs it after it detects the display is up, however the hacky way would be to put a sleep 30 at the top of your script
[23:57] <surgy> tgm4883, how?
[23:58] <tgm4883> surgy: it's a bash script?
[23:58] <surgy> tgm4883, whats the command for sleep 30 ?
[23:58] <surgy> im assuming so?
[23:58] <kadiro> sleep 3000
[23:58] <surgy> thank you
[23:58] <tgm4883> no
[23:58] <tgm4883> that would be 3000 seconds
[23:58] <kadiro> ouups
[23:58] <tgm4883> literally just "sleep 30"
[23:58] <kadiro> yes missed one zero
[23:59] <kadiro> 30 sec?
[23:59] <tgm4883> http://ss64.com/bash/sleep.html
[23:59] <tgm4883> yes
[23:59] <tgm4883> surgy: "sleep 30" not "sleep 3000"


[01:59] <akgraner> Ubuntu Leadership Team Meeting: Monday, September 26, 2011 @ 1800 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting on freenode.net
[01:59] <akgraner> Closed the poll that was the most popular time
[02:11] <valorie> yikes, early for me, but I'll try to make it
[02:11] <valorie> I kept meaning to figure out the UTC but never did.....
[02:18] <akgraner> for me it's like 1300 EDY
[02:18] <akgraner> EDT
[02:18] <akgraner> even
[02:18] <akgraner> I'll make it work for me - I'm more concerned with it fitting as many other people's schedule as possible..
[02:18] <akgraner> valorie, I have the time zones on my wall
[02:19] <akgraner> so I don't have to keep checking dateandtime
[02:19] <Cheesehead> valorie: Try the command "date -d "Sep 26 18:00 UTC 2011""
[02:20] <Cheesehead> It should return your local time equivalent
[02:21] <Cheesehead> (Sorry for any quotation-mark confusion, in that command the UTC date should be in quotes)
[02:27] <valorie> thank you Cheesehead
[02:27] <valorie> i'll try that
[02:27] <valorie> oh good, we'll be back on regular time by then
[02:27] <valorie> not so early
[02:27] <valorie> :-)
[02:28] <akgraner> I'm just lazy plus multiple clocks on my wall with various time zone labels look all cool and artsy :-)
[02:28] <akgraner> ok and a little nerdy and military-ish :-)
[02:29] <valorie> I had my computer clock displaying UTC for awhile
[02:29] <valorie> but it went back to local time for some reason
[03:55] <DarwinSurvivor> valorie: I have a second time in UTC under my regular clock in my conky config
[03:56] <valorie> yes, it's there when I hover
[03:56] <valorie> but it used to be the main time
[03:56] <valorie> helped to be able to see both at a glance, all the time
[03:56] <valorie> clock to my left, UTC a bit to my right
[05:57] <YoBoY> <Cheesehead> Chapter 8: Money. Are there any LoCos with their organizational funds, bank accounts, and fundraisers? << ubuntu-fr have an account and money and a webstore ^^"
[06:04] <valorie> how do you secure those funds, YoBoY?
[06:04] <YoBoY> secure ?
[06:06] <YoBoY> we have a voluntary association, it's allowing us to have an account, we have also a paypal account to  receive donations and for the paiment in the webstore
[06:07] <valorie> such as Treasurer giving reports, and someone to check on those
[06:08] <valorie> having dealt with a theft from an account, I know how much that can destroy a group
[06:08] <valorie> even small amounts destroy trust, so it's worthwhile to ensure the safety
[06:08] <valorie> sec
[06:08] <YoBoY> yes we have that :) the association is registered we have our president (huats) our tresorer (kinouchou) a secretary (me) and we all have a look into that
[06:09] <valorie> so no auditor?
[06:09] <YoBoY> the emails from paypal are received on a private mailing list where some other trusted people are registered
[06:09] <valorie> that's fine as long as someone systematically looks at the books and verifies the accounts
[06:10] <valorie> very good
[06:10] <YoBoY> we make each year a repport on all our activities, it's an obligation of the association we registered
[06:11] <valorie> good deal
[06:13] <YoBoY> it's not perfect but so far we are lucky with the people ruling the association, i'm only here since last year ^^
[06:15] <YoBoY> to make good promotion we need money, it allow us to make our livecds, tshirts, stickers, tatoos, ...
[06:15] <valorie> I understand
[06:15] <valorie> but luck should NOT be relied upon
[06:16] <valorie> hiring an auditor is not a large cost, if the books are prepared well for inspection
[06:18] <YoBoY> yes, if our profits reach a certain amount it's an obligation to have a certified accountant
[06:18] <valorie> cool, I'm glad France is on the ball
[06:19] <YoBoY> like a business
[06:38]  * YoBoY back with coffee
[06:39] <YoBoY> I don't know for other locos but we receive some donations from users, I don't of they think we are linked to canonical/ubuntu in some way, but it help.
[06:41] <valorie> we've gotten a few too
[06:41] <valorie> at LinuxFest, etc.
[06:41] <valorie> nice for buying more CDs to burn and give out
[06:42] <YoBoY> not official cds ?
[06:42] <bkerensa> valorie: Will be going to Linuxfest :) got someone to volunteer for roadtrip :)
[06:42] <YoBoY> people are less afraid of "manufactured cds", seems more real, and less "hacker thing"
[06:44] <valorie> we didn't get nearly enough this year
[06:44] <valorie> our LoCo isn't Accepted
[06:44] <valorie> they watched us make them as they wanted them
[06:44] <valorie> we worked hard all weekend
[06:44] <bkerensa> valorie: UnApproved LoCo's can apparently get CD's (I guess although that depends on who you ask)
[06:45] <bkerensa> Someone from Council said we dont and that the Wiki is outdated however the person responsible for conference packs at Canonical said we do get them.
[06:45] <bkerensa> idk
[06:45] <bkerensa> I think there is likely some miscommunication somewhere but Canonical did ship us two cases of CD's
[06:45] <valorie> we got some
[06:46] <bkerensa> yeah
[06:46] <valorie> but not nearly enough
[06:46] <bkerensa> I also had some long talks with people from Canonical
[06:46] <valorie> LFNW is in April, so there is always lots of interest
[06:47] <YoBoY> well, "canonical cds" are just goodies here, it's great to have them, but it's clearly not enough ^^" we produced around 10000 live cds for the last releases
[06:47] <bkerensa> They wanna do more for and with loco's but I guess nobody is reaching out and they also discussed like regionals Canonical/LoCo mailing lists
[06:47] <bkerensa> but then again this was just a group of Canonical employees so they were going to pass the idea along
[06:47] <bkerensa> :P
[06:47] <bkerensa> 10k :P
[06:47] <bkerensa> wow
[06:48] <bkerensa> I have had little demand for CD's on the local level in fact everyone asks for USB's :P
[06:48] <valorie> in previous years we've gotten like 4 cases
[06:48] <valorie> and ended up with like 5
[06:48] <valorie> this year we got one case
[06:48] <valorie> and no Kubuntu at all
[06:48] <bkerensa> although FreeGeek just got in touch and said they have an epic amount of CD's they need to get rid of
[06:49]  * bkerensa is trying to keep FreeGeek shipping Ubuntu but atm I dont know if its going to be a win and FreeGeek is a major player in getting Ubuntu spread throughout the country
[06:50] <bkerensa> There issue is Unity will not run on their hardware going forward and they dont seem to like the other variants xubuntu or kubuntu
[06:51] <valorie> that sucks a bit
[06:51] <bkerensa> Yeah
[06:51] <valorie> now there is lubuntu as well
[06:51] <YoBoY> we are thinking on a live usb too, but it's too expensive
[06:52] <bkerensa> imho Canonical should be trying to help with this... FreeGeek has offshots throughout the country now and the main branch alone distributes hundreds of free computers running Ubuntu all the time
[06:52] <valorie> yes, unless you can get small USBs for almost free
[06:52] <valorie> which you can't
[06:52] <bkerensa> you can
[06:52] <bkerensa> ;)
[06:52] <bkerensa> Sponsors
[06:52] <bkerensa> :P
[06:52] <valorie> sure, that too
[06:52] <YoBoY> we already produce a live usb with another floss group here in france
[06:53]  * bkerensa needs to pass some contacts to akgraner.... I meet someone from NC who didnt even know there was a LoCo
[06:53] <bkerensa> YoBoy: Yeah... I'm considering looking into finding a sticker company to make replacement  Ubuntu key stickers soon
[06:54]  * bkerensa is hoping to find a good deal and have a box or two of rolls made
[06:54] <valorie> ask Mark Dude about where they got them
[06:54] <YoBoY> http://www.enventelibre.org/produit/framakey-ubuntu-fr-remix
[06:54]  * bkerensa asked System76 if I could just buy in bulk from them but ehh they said they need all theirs
[06:54] <valorie> they're a hit for sure
[06:54] <bkerensa> valorie: He got them from System76
[06:55] <valorie> interesting
[06:55] <bkerensa> zareason also makes them but they use them for their computers and such idk
[06:57] <valorie> right
[06:58] <bkerensa> But if I find a economical way of having them made I will be sure to ship some up to you guys
[06:58] <valorie> or we can pitch in for a part of the order
[06:58] <valorie> Cali might be interested as well
[06:58] <bkerensa> Yeah
[06:59] <bkerensa> PuppetConf was interesting
[06:59] <YoBoY> bkerensa: stickers like this : http://www.enventelibre.org/produit/pack-de-5-stickers-ubuntu-fr ?
[06:59] <bkerensa> someone from MarkDude's camp (Fedora Project) decided to post some random thing on Mark Shuttleworth's blog and made reference to Ubuntu Oregon
[07:00] <bkerensa> YoBoy: Nah the small circle windows key replacement stickers...
[07:00] <bkerensa> YoBoY: http://i.imgur.com/dkwmW.jpg <--- there is one on this
[07:00] <YoBoY> bkerensa: ha ok ^^
[07:01] <bkerensa> YoBoY: Thats not the original design :P it was some random company logo and I painted over in black and put the ubuntu sticker on it.... Its a USB drive :)
[07:01] <YoBoY> I have one on my laptop from the official stickers
[07:02] <bkerensa> oh cool
[07:02] <bkerensa> :D
[07:09] <valorie> case badges are cool too
[07:10] <YoBoY> case badges ?
[07:10] <valorie> I <3 my Kubuntu one
[07:10] <valorie> like your stickers, YoBoY
[07:10] <valorie> sometimes they are metallic, too
[07:10] <YoBoY> what's the differences ?
[07:11] <valorie> the little ones are for your "windows" key
[07:11]  * YoBoY always searching for new ideas of goodies :D
[07:18] <bkerensa> gnight all
[07:20] <YoBoY> good night bkerensa
[07:31] <YoBoY> some of you have ideas for goodies ? we need some new stuff to please our community
[07:34] <valorie> kubuntu jewelry
[07:34] <valorie> :-)
[08:13] <YoBoY> not enough kubuntu users ^^" but jewelry can be a good idea
[08:14] <head_victim> Keyrings and case badges always do well
[08:17] <valorie> right, I know we are a minority
[08:17] <valorie> in both the Ubuntu community, AND the KDE community
[08:19] <head_victim> As long as it ends in "buntu" we're all the same majority ;) I've used them all on a daily basis over the years depending on my requirements of the time.
[08:20] <YoBoY> valorie: I also have lot of difficulties to find people to do conferences on kubuntu / KDE :]
[08:23] <valorie> we have lots of French KDE people
[08:23] <valorie> also some Kubuntu ones specifically
[08:24] <valorie> I will poke them to talk to you about that
[08:24] <YoBoY> yes I know that, it's why it's frustrating :)
[08:25] <valorie> the packagers and developers are sorta busy
[08:25] <valorie> but then -- aren't we all!?
[08:25] <YoBoY> seems the great people behind all the free softwares want to stay in the shadow ^^
[08:25] <valorie> well, some people would rather hang out in IRC than see people face to face
[08:25] <valorie> social anxiety, etc.
[08:26] <YoBoY> i'm one of them :D
[08:26] <valorie> I love the conferences
[08:26] <YoBoY> I love to organise them, but don't ask me to do one ^^"
[08:27] <valorie> well, I need to develop some talks
[08:27] <valorie> so I get sponsored to come, or at least to stay
[08:28] <valorie> I enjoy giving talks
[08:28] <valorie> and staffing booths
[08:29] <YoBoY> I love booths :)
[08:29] <YoBoY> and webcafé :D
[08:29] <valorie> heh
[08:30] <YoBoY> 3 years now we are holding a free internet acces point at a music festival, it's really awesome :)
[08:31] <valorie> that is so cool -- I will think about talking to my loco about doing that as well
[08:31] <valorie> I love music festivals, so it's a natural
[08:32] <valorie> how do you get the connectivity?
[08:32] <YoBoY> http://yoboy.fr/images/P1010192.JPG << :D
[08:32] <YoBoY> the festival provide the network and everything, we provide the computers and the volunteers
[08:33] <valorie> oh wow!
[08:34] <valorie> more and more interesting
[08:35] <YoBoY> we are using 2 computers with zephyr to have 12 station
[08:36] <valorie> what's zephyr?
[08:36] <valorie> well, not important
[08:36] <valorie> we have people who could DO THIS
[08:36] <valorie> i just need to get the festival connection
[08:36] <valorie> how did you make that?
[08:40] <YoBoY> it's a xorg module to allow use mutliple desktop on one computer
[08:40] <YoBoY> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Multiseat_Configuration/Xephyr
[08:40] <YoBoY> sorry wrong name :p
[08:42] <YoBoY> http://yoboy.fr/5d214b74e322860b09f7c3b606287171/14/P1010124.JPG another great photo from this summer
[08:43] <valorie> so they provide the tent and everything?
[08:44] <valorie> and why do you want multiple desktops on one computer?
[08:45] <valorie> seems like it would be cool to team up with freegeek or somebody who could lend some computers for the day/weekend
[08:45] <YoBoY> yes they provide everything
[08:46] <YoBoY> easier to bring only 2 computers and 12 screen thant 12 complete computers ^^"
[08:46] <valorie> how did you connect to the festival?
[08:46] <valorie> oh, I see
[08:48] <YoBoY> the IT of the festival love ubuntu and free softwares, the first year they ask mozilla to have a booth, mozilla ask us to share and do a webcafe, since then, we have the both and they love us and the service we provide ^^
[08:49] <valorie> I'll have to do some research
[08:49] <YoBoY> the tent is bigger each year ^^"
[08:49] <valorie> that could be such a great project for our loco!
[08:49] <YoBoY> the fun part is they talk about us on other festival organisators and now we are invited in 2 music festivals, perhaps next year 3 :D
[08:50] <valorie> that is great
[08:50] <valorie> we have so many around
[08:51] <YoBoY> it's lot of work, this cost us some money too (material, transport, food, tatoos and stickers)
[08:51] <YoBoY> but it's cheaper than the festival entrance, and we can see all the concerts
[08:51] <valorie> right
[08:52] <YoBoY> http://www.vieillescharrues.asso.fr/edition-2011/programmation << this year
[08:52] <YoBoY> and we can stay behind the scenes to take some pictures http://yoboy.fr/5d214b74e322860b09f7c3b606287171/15/DSC_0239.JPG :D
[08:53] <valorie> Scorps!
[08:53] <valorie> Kaiser Chiefs!
[08:54] <valorie> that's the two I know, besides Snoop Dog
[08:54] <valorie> who might be fun too, for free
[08:54] <valorie> lol
[08:54] <YoBoY> http://yoboy.fr/5d214b74e322860b09f7c3b606287171/17/DSC_0314.JPG << our best volunter for the photos :D
[08:55] <valorie> which one is you?
[08:56] <valorie> would you mind me sharing the links with my loco?
[08:56] <valorie> the photos and such
[08:57] <YoBoY> hum... private share ?
[08:58] <YoBoY> http://yoboy.fr/5d214b74e322860b09f7c3b606287171/14/14072011497.JPG << i'm on the left
[08:59] <valorie> cool, it's nice to know what people look like
[09:00] <valorie> not all the links, but the two of the inside and outside the tent, and the festival lineup
[09:00] <valorie> and the zephyr
[09:00] <YoBoY> yes you can, take what you want, but don't use direct links
[09:01] <valorie> direct links?
[09:01] <YoBoY> links to my server
[09:02] <valorie> oh, so I need to put them into a imageshare?
[09:02] <valorie> I'll do that
[09:02] <YoBoY> something like that yes, or I can do a folder for you, just make me a list in that case
[09:03] <valorie> making them now
[09:03] <valorie> just two
[09:06] <valorie> huh, I guess it is waiting
[09:06] <YoBoY> ?
[09:07] <valorie> I dragged the photo down to the pastebin widget, and now it says "yoboy.fr contacted. Waiting for reply....
[09:07] <valorie> I've not gotten that before
[09:08] <valorie> I'll shut it down and use something else
[09:08] <YoBoY> something goes wrong :)
[09:08] <YoBoY> give me the links to the photos if it's only two I can make the copy :)
[09:09] <YoBoY> (don't know if pastebin can work with files)
[09:09] <valorie> http://yoboy.fr/5d214b74e322860b09f7c3b606287171/14/P1010124.JPG
[09:09] <valorie> and http://yoboy.fr/images/P1010192.JPG
[09:10] <valorie> I've used it with screenshots before
[09:10] <valorie> maybe this is different
[09:10] <YoBoY> http://yoboy.fr/images/valorie/
[09:12] <YoBoY> everything in my images folder is free to link, free to download, free to share, licence ccbysa if you want one ;)
[09:14] <YoBoY> I have to go, I have a meeting to organise our next ubuntu party (lot of work too ^^")
[09:14] <YoBoY> bbl
[09:14] <valorie> thank you!
[12:35] <akgraner> morning
[12:35] <akgraner> I'm  giving an open week session today
[12:36] <akgraner> and I'll add the resource list to a google doc -- and we can also make it available
[12:36] <akgraner> it's about contributing to the community
[12:36] <akgraner> and it's a list  I wish I would have been given when I started out in the community
[12:37] <akgraner> I thought we could add to it
[12:37] <akgraner> this way people have one place with tons of reference links about navigating community contribution
[12:42] <head_victim> akgraner: want me to have a play on the wiki?
[12:43] <head_victim> Start setting up meeting, links and anything else you want sub pages?
[12:44] <akgraner> Sure can we have it set up like this - /LeadershipTeam/Meetings
[12:44] <head_victim> Yeah and /Links ?
[12:44] <head_victim> And whatever else you like?
[12:44] <head_victim> I'll try to knock up a bit of a header bar as well jst for navigations sake.
[12:45] <akgraner> well need a Meetings/Agenda  and Meetings/Logs pages as well
[12:45] <akgraner> yes a header bar would roack
[12:45] <akgraner> rock
[12:45] <akgraner> I love the Ubuntu Women Header
[12:46] <akgraner> and the way their meeting pages are organized but if you find something better   feel free to make it work
[12:46] <akgraner> :-)
[12:46] <akgraner> make sense?  I know you know you're doing :-) have fun with ti
[12:46] <akgraner> it
[12:47] <akgraner> dang it  - I can't type today
[12:47] <akgraner> head_victim, Thank you!
[12:47] <head_victim> I was thinking a /Meetings with upcoming meetings agenda which are then moved to /Meetings/11/Sept26 or something when minutes and details area vailable
[12:47] <head_victim> But I'll go look at the UW as well for inspiration
[12:47] <akgraner> that's fine look at the Kernel Team pages theirs is organized as well
[12:47] <head_victim> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam
[12:47] <head_victim> That's my most complete effort
[12:49] <akgraner> Cool - here's the link to the kernel team wiki - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[12:49] <akgraner> whatever you think is best just want to get it organized as much as possible
[12:50] <akgraner> we also need a /Projects page with a link from the header
[12:50] <head_victim> Ah, yeah I was going to do like that but when the meetings are completed I was thining of just adding a link to a subpage with details so it's just not one huge list
[12:50] <head_victim> Like team reporting is done
[12:51] <akgraner> Past Meetings
[12:51] <akgraner> :-)
[12:51] <head_victim> I'll knock something up and you can let me know how it looks :)
[12:51] <akgraner> yep - a /Past Meetings page is a great idea
[12:52] <akgraner> I like the team wikis you did as well
[12:53] <akgraner> you know what you're doing  - just set it up :-)  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam it looks good but I was thinking since we aren't a loco team that using another project team wiki would be good to - can you take the best parts for yours and the best (different parts from teams like kernel and UW and incorporate  them)
[12:53] <akgraner> THANKS A MILLION :-) You rock
[12:53] <head_victim> Yep, I'll have a hack to at least get it started
[12:53] <head_victim> Is there a team icon yet?
[12:54] <akgraner> yeppers - I was going to work on that tomorrow - but I am so glad you are getting started - you made my day
[12:54] <akgraner> not yet
[12:54] <akgraner> I've put the word our that we need one
[12:54] <akgraner> The design team is busy with development stuff - but I'll ask them as well
[12:55] <akgraner> however if you know someone please ask them to design something for us :-)
[12:55] <akgraner> I'll also ask jud kite to come up with something - killerkite productions
[12:56] <akgraner> head_victim, but if you know how to do that as well :-)  (hint hint( have at it))
[12:56] <head_victim> Nope, was just seeking icons for headers ;)
[12:56] <akgraner> teasing the wikis will be awesome if you can do those :-)
[12:56] <head_victim> I'm about as artistic as a square mouthed shovel.
[12:56] <akgraner> heehee
[12:57] <head_victim> That's why I'm good on wikis, there is only so much art you can use.
[12:57] <akgraner> bbiab..we can always change out all that later :-)
[12:57] <akgraner> yeppers
[13:14] <head_victim> akgraner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Meetings is a start
[13:15] <head_victim> It's got some notes in there as "howto"s for keeping the page up to day
[13:15] <head_victim> date*
[13:15] <head_victim> I'll have a quick crack at a ContactUs and a header
[13:21] <head_victim> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/ContactUs - is that all we have at the moment?
[13:30] <head_victim> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Links I hope that's vaguely what you had in mind
[13:37] <Cheesehead> head_victim: I quite like them
[13:40] <head_victim> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Header
[13:40] <head_victim> And that's the header I just knocked up
[13:40] <head_victim> Cheesehead: cheers
[13:40] <head_victim> OHHH Forgot the Projects Page
[13:41] <Cheesehead> head_victim: I would have reminded you
[13:46] <head_victim> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Projects
[13:46] <Cheesehead> head_victim: Thanks for doing all that wiki work.
[13:47] <head_victim> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Header
[13:47] <head_victim> Just added the projects page to the header
[13:47] <head_victim> I tried to use all the same type of icons
[13:48] <head_victim> So if people like it enough we can just add an include to all the pages
[13:48] <Cheesehead> head_victim: I think your use of icons and graphics was spot-on. Not too much, not too bare.
[13:49] <Cheesehead> And internally consistent
[13:50] <head_victim> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership
[13:50] <head_victim> Bugger it, I just whacked the header on there to see ;0
[13:54] <Cheesehead> Looks good. Looks ready to add to the others.
[13:55] <head_victim> Cheesehead: thanks for checking it out
[13:56] <head_victim> Feel free to add stuff, it's a wiki after all
[13:56] <Cheesehead> head_victim: I will. I usually wait until the initial enthusiasm burst subsides a bit.
[13:56] <Cheesehead> Then I come in and edit and rescale to reality.
[13:57] <Cheesehead> (Not saying anyone is unrealistic. Not at all. Simply that a new team may head in a direction unexpected upon the first day)
[13:58] <head_victim> Yep, I don't know all the details so really those pages are mainly placeholders
[13:58] <head_victim> But you gotta start with something
[13:58] <Cheesehead> I thing you've given us a great skeleton to flesh out.
[13:59] <head_victim> I've also found that if you're expecting others to add stuff (like agendas and links, etc) then it's always useful to have examples so I've put some comments in that hopefully make some sense.
[13:59] <Cheesehead> They do (to me)
[14:00] <head_victim> Sweet, cause it's midnight here so sanity checks are always good
[14:14] <head_victim> Okay, just playing now, but has the header been improved or complicated beyond useful? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Header
[14:14] <head_victim> I added a bulletin bar
[14:17] <head_victim> akgraner: Well I will probably be off to bed soon. I hope I've done some useful work, feel free to modify it in any way, I won't be offended or anything like that. If you want stuff tweaked but running out of time just let me know and I'll see what I can do.
[14:21] <Cheesehead> head_victim: I like the bulletin bar. (I'm usually pretty difficul to please about such things)
[14:22] <head_victim> Thanks, it is "just another one of those things to update" but I've found it useful for some teams
[15:31] <akgraner> Thank you!
[17:03] <akgraner> Love the WIki pages :-)
[17:03] <akgraner> thanks head_victim
[17:20] <bkerensa> akgraner: I met soemone from NC I got his biz card and he said he didnt know there was a active loco in NC
[17:20] <bkerensa> :D
[18:28] <NRWlion> evening from a german autobahn :D
[18:29] <Cheesehead> Are you driving distracted?
[18:29] <NRWlion> Cheesehead: nope its a bus
[18:29] <NRWlion> :D
[18:29] <NRWlion> i am sitting in the last row
[18:30] <Cheesehead> How are you driving the bus from the back row? Your arms must be amazingly long.
[18:30] <NRWlion> totally bored of a group of like 10 women at the age around 60+
[18:30] <NRWlion> Cheesehead: i am not driving
[18:31] <NRWlion> we are going to freiburg in Germany to visit the catholic pope
[18:32] <Cheesehead> Ah, I read something about that.
[18:32] <Cheesehead> How long is the bus trip?
[18:33] <NRWlion> the next 10 to 12 hrs
[18:33] <NRWlion> akgraner: ping
[18:41] <Cheesehead> Question: Who is the proponent of User Days? I'm curious if there will be an After Action Review (or equivalent).
[18:41] <NRWlion> sorry?
[22:44] <akgraner> Cheesehead, yet there is a survey
[22:45] <akgraner> s/yet/yes
[22:59] <Cheesehead> akgraner: Survey. Thanks for the info.


 I'm James and I ama studnt at RIT in New york adn I study computing security, computer science with a emp. on scientific computing
[12:37] <QuantumParadox> and Ihave to do Co-ops so I work in a scientific envirment; NASA, NRAO so fare
[12:37] <belkinsa> Nice to meet you too.
[12:37] <QuantumParadox> Are you an American?
[12:38] <belkinsa> You are lucky that you have Co-Ops in your major.
[12:38] <belkinsa> No, I'm Russian but I lived in USA for 20 years now.
[12:38] <QuantumParadox> Yup and cool. I like Russia. I took a classs on the rise adn fall of the USSR
[12:38] <QuantumParadox> and I love your military music
[12:39] <QuantumParadox> the old USSR anthem
[12:39] <QuantumParadox> the space race
[12:39] <QuantumParadox> and your hitory
[12:39] <QuantumParadox> history
[12:39] <QuantumParadox> Are you in your 20's?
[12:39] <belkinsa> Yup.
[12:39] <belkinsa> 23.
[12:39] <QuantumParadox> 29
[12:39] <QuantumParadox> I jsut tured 29
[12:39] <belkinsa> But you are a grad student, right?
[12:39] <QuantumParadox> Yes
[12:40] <QuantumParadox> Well I am in a program that is undergrad + Grad
[12:40] <QuantumParadox> so I take both classes
[12:40]  * belkinsa also took a Russian history class and liked it (but it went from 1200's to fall of USSR)
[12:40] <QuantumParadox> Just wanted to be honest
[12:40] <belkinsa> Sounds like a good idea.
[12:40] <belkinsa> Too bad that there isn't something like that for biology at University of Cincinnati or else where.
[12:41] <QuantumParadox> See, I been in school for years because I love it. I started out at New Mexico tech for astrophysics and astrobiology at Florida Tech and now computer science, computing security adn a minor in Microelectronics at RIT and I do thigns at Cornell
[12:41] <QuantumParadox> My univeirsty history is complcated
[12:42] <belkinsa> I know what you mean.  There is times when I want to stay in school to just learn about things.
[12:42] <QuantumParadox> For your biology I love virology, infectious dieseases and cell bio
[12:42] <QuantumParadox> The thing is, I don't want to work unless it is in the space program
[12:43] <QuantumParadox> I am not intersted in working for a company to make them rich
[12:43] <QuantumParadox> I am intersted in changing the world for the better and I believe i can do that in space sciences
[12:43] <belkinsa> I know what you mean and I want to do the same.
[12:43] <QuantumParadox> I mean I can help the scientists do their work by making sure thier systems are safe and running smoothly
[12:44]  * belkinsa nods
[12:44] <QuantumParadox> I have orked with some of the most intelligent people in the world; NASA JPL, NRAO,  CERN and I know I can help them
[12:44] <belkinsa> That's good to hear!
[12:45] <QuantumParadox> How about you
[12:45] <QuantumParadox> What do you want to do?
[12:45] <QuantumParadox> What is your interest in Biology?
[12:46] <belkinsa> Cell bio, mainly anything with DNA/RNA like DNA repair.
[12:46] <QuantumParadox> those protains are interesting for DNA repair
[12:46] <QuantumParadox> How come they let some genetic code mutate
[12:46] <QuantumParadox> mutate
[12:46] <belkinsa> Or how they know that there is a mistake in the DNA.
[12:47] <QuantumParadox> I stayed up all night and so my brain is shuttign down
[12:47] <QuantumParadox> Yes
[12:47] <belkinsa> Go to sleep then!
[12:47] <QuantumParadox> Now on April 30, I will be having dinner with my frien Niel Tyson from Cosmos.
[12:47] <QuantumParadox> so I am going to tlak to him more about that
[12:48] <belkinsa> OMG!  Lucky you!
[12:48] <QuantumParadox> Have you seen Cosmos
[12:48] <belkinsa> Is it a show?
[12:48] <QuantumParadox> I know this is IRC and I know people can say anything and get them to beleive them but I am real adn I will meet with him
[12:49] <QuantumParadox> Yes, Cosmos on FOX
[12:49] <QuantumParadox> I thought you would be watching it
[12:49] <QuantumParadox> it's a update to Carl Sagan's Cosmos
[12:49] <QuantumParadox> Neil Tyson is hosting it
[12:49] <belkinsa> No.  I don't watch TV.
[12:49] <QuantumParadox> Neither do I. I jsut pirate it from USEnet
[12:49] <QuantumParadox> useNET
[12:50] <belkinsa> I pirate too.
[12:50] <QuantumParadox> I hope you use a VPn
[12:50] <QuantumParadox> VPN
[12:50] <belkinsa> Or YouTube or have streaming live internet radio for my needs.
[12:51] <QuantumParadox> I've been pirating since I was 11 back in 1996
[12:51] <QuantumParadox> I even pirated my neighboor's AOL dial up account. lol
[12:51] <belkinsa> I have since, I don't remember.
[12:51] <belkinsa> 2008, I think.
[12:51] <QuantumParadox> Now I have 10 of terabyites of crap
[12:52] <QuantumParadox> man, you are fun to chat with
[12:52] <belkinsa> You too.
[12:52] <QuantumParadox> so, what brings you from Russia to America
[12:52] <belkinsa> IRC is too quiet at times but at the wrong times.
[12:54] <belkinsa> My parents.  My dad moved to Cincinnati because of grad school (he has his PhD in analytical chemistry ) because the postdoc was the only one that did research in my dad's field.
[12:54] <belkinsa> He moved in 1992 then one year later me and mom moved.  And I was 2 and half when that happened.
[12:55] <QuantumParadox> cool
[12:55] <QuantumParadox> Are you now a US citizen
[12:56] <belkinsa> Yeah, but I have dual citizenship.
[12:56] <QuantumParadox> Cool
[12:56] <QuantumParadox> What do you think of Russia invading Ukerian adn taking part of it?
[12:57] <QuantumParadox> I heard in Ukran it is Right wing religous people
[12:57] <QuantumParadox> But I am not sure for sure
[12:58] <belkinsa> I think it's wrong but the problem is that it's history that is powering Russia to do it.  Also, I smell another break up of Russia and Ukraine.
[12:58] <belkinsa> And another country will form.
[13:00] <QuantumParadox> Yup
[13:00] <QuantumParadox> Do you Skype or Gtalk
[13:00] <QuantumParadox> I would love to voic chat
[13:00] <QuantumParadox> if it's cool with you
[13:01] <QuantumParadox> My Skype: QuantumParadox
[13:02] <QuantumParadox> Gmail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:03] <QuantumParadox> If it is cool with you
[13:04] <QuantumParadox> Are you still there
[13:05] <belkinsa> I don't use those, not even my XMPP.
[13:08] <QuantumParadox> oh
[13:08] <QuantumParadox> Do you do google hangouts
[13:08] <belkinsa> And I only do Hangouts when needed, like for vUDS.
[13:08] <QuantumParadox> oh
[13:09] <belkinsa> Though, it would be cool to connect to other Ubuntu users that way.
[13:09] <QuantumParadox> Lets do a hang out
[13:09] <QuantumParadox> I'm up for it if you are
[13:09] <belkinsa> Sure.  But later on today.  I have work to do.
[13:11] <QuantumParadox> ok
[13:11] <QuantumParadox> My Gmail is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:11] <QuantumParadox> Add me and we will do one later
[13:11] <belkinsa> Sure.
[13:12] <QuantumParadox> What is your gamil
[13:12] <QuantumParadox> I have to add you ina  funny way
[13:12] <QuantumParadox> I use a old chat client
[13:12] <QuantumParadox> that I have to add you to
[13:12] <belkinsa><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:13] <belkinsa> But I hardly use my gmail account.
[13:13] <belkinsa> Everything is done via my<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or<EMAIL_ADDRESS>e-mail.
[13:16] <QuantumParadox> Cool
[13:16] <QuantumParadox> So, how did you get intersted in computers
[13:16] <QuantumParadox> What did you start out with
[13:47] <belkinsa> I think having a windows 3.1 at home as a kid.
[13:48] <belkinsa_> But really wanting to own one was in 2005.
[13:49] <belkinsa_> I wanted a certain All-In-One that I think was called the Hippie or something like that.
[15:47] <alejandro> Hello #ubuntu-scientists channel
[15:48] <alejandro> Please forgive me for asking a very basic question
[15:48] <alejandro> I want to reply to a thread, but I do not have the original email.   How would I reply?
[16:12] <alejandro> I have to logout.   If someone would explain to me.   Please contact me and thank you in advance.
[18:39] <belkinsa> I wish he left his e-mail.
[18:39] <belkinsa> Though I have it somewhere, since he commented on my blog.
[18:52] <belkinsa> And i think he joined the team too.
[18:53] <belkinsa> And I was right, he did join.
[19:31] <QuantumParadox> hi


[00:28] <wxl> @kc2bez: https://share.riseup.net/#DxvDjFSXaL4KfR0GS09wnA
[00:29] <kc2bez> wxl: is that what it was or did you change it?
[00:29] <wxl> that's what it was
[00:29] <kc2bez> harumpf
[00:29] <wxl> and i dug deeeper into the cpp manual and didn't see anything particularly helpful
[00:29] <wxl> to make things even more confusing, i feel like i personally have uploaded binaries
[00:32] <wxl> huh git lfs is an option
[00:37] <wxl> i've looked through all the settings and i'm not finding anything applicable
[00:37] <kc2bez> Thanks for looking.
[00:43] <wxl> @tsimonq2: have you run into this before?
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: have you run into this before?], I haven't but I say just push a commit
[00:57] <kc2bez> wxl: thoughts?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [<The_LoudSpeaker> ugghhh! I hate you shortcutkeys.], @The_LoudSpeaker wxl: new insight about shortcuts: first boot works OK on upgrade but from the second+ stop working (maybe because of duplicates?). Also, I remove panel and runner from autostart to start them manually after globalkeys, didn't work, need to be sto
[01:03] <wxl> @tsimonq2: it doesn't make sense to push a 0 byte file
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: it doesn't make sense to push a 0 byte file], ...?
 0 byte?
[01:07] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/P46
[01:26] <kc2bez> wxl: I'm guessing this is only dealing with the webui side of things but it may be something: https://github.com/phacility/phabricator/blob/master/src/docs/user/configuration/configuring_file_storage.diviner#L113  Also, i have no idea what we have on the backend of things.
[01:28] <wxl> mahbe
[01:28] <wxl> currently set to 1000000
[01:29] <wxl> try again
[01:31] <kc2bez> I don't think it went.
[01:31] <wxl> did you get the errors?
[01:32] <kc2bez> yes
[01:32] <kc2bez> same errors
[01:32] <wxl> ok i'm reverting that
[01:40] <kc2bez> wxl: not sure if this helps at all  https://share.riseup.net/#5M8p_XzCfB6W-6BML5B82A
[01:40] <wxl> huh
[02:17] <kc2bez> wxl: I'm guessing these other settings are cool too: https://github.com/phacility/phabricator/blob/master/src/docs/user/configuration/configuring_file_storage.diviner#L40
[02:17]  * kc2bez shoots in the dark
 Responded to the 19.10 Beta task
 I wrote a draft release announcement but I'm not quite caffeinated yet this morning so I grammar good :P
 I also reviewed the other diffs that are open
 @kc2bez @The_LoudSpeaker et. al ^
 @tsimonq2 I read your message. I don't think the actual wallpapers got pushed to phab.
 vlc still borked in live session?
 Oh, must be. Sigh...
 @tsimonq2 I tried a few times.
 @kc2bez [@tsimonq2 I read your message. I don't think the actual wallpapers got pushed to …], Do you think it's a Git issue or a Phab/Arc issue?
 I am not really sure but I think it is a phab/arc issue.
 Can you pass me the files?
 I'll hammer at it tonight until it'll work :P
 Yeah I can do that. I will get them posted somewhere.
 Sounds good
[15:23] <wxl> @kc2bez: i don't know if you get notifications on these so https://phab.lubuntu.me/P46#248 cc @tsimonq2
[15:28] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker @apt-ghetto @HMollerCl i wonder if the issues we have at least with duplicated shortcuts isn't somehow related to problems with the default shortcuts https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/pull/137
 @wxl [<wxl> @kc2bez: i don't know if you get notifications on these so https://phab.lu …], Yes, filling up my mailbox :P It's all good. I will read through them in a bit.
 @tsimonq2 re: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D45 … I had picked up the colours from splash screen. they can be found somewhere in the filesystem somewhere under `/usr/share/` I don't remember it exactly but the background matches the splash screen. I think it shouldn't be a problem. … about the "Lubuntu" logo, I picked that also from
 also, ack on "Lubuntu" not "lubuntu"
 also, since D47 is a competitor, you want me to change verison no to .3 wxl: ?
 also, wxl: I am afriad you are right, those shortcuts might be coming from that issue. we will have to get the patch if that's the case. I will check the patch once I am free. gtg now else I miss dinner.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [@tsimonq2 re: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D45 … I had picked up the colours from splas …], Ack
 @The_LoudSpeaker [also, since D47 is a competitor, you want me to change verison no to .3 wxl: ?], Let's merge both at the same time and do it in the same upload
 @The_LoudSpeaker @kc2bez I'm going to merge and upload both of your diffs once Dan gets back to me with wallpaper images
 Besides that, please take a look at the draft release announcement, as both of you have useful content to add :)
 I'll fix Lugito at lunch real quick but I'm going to paste the stacktrace here
 It'd be super amazing if someone could fix it
 Fix what
[19:43] <wxl> da bot
[19:44] <wxl> !es
[19:44] <wxl> ^ Global Team: see that? i'd like a Lubuntu-specific version. am i ok to just change "ubuntu" to "lubuntu?" if not, suggest a different version
 @wxl [<wxl> ^ Global Team: see that? i'd like a Lubuntu-specific version. am i ok to j …], En este canal de lubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #lubuntu-es; escriba " /join #lubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.
 Well, he's asking if the bot can have that message, not for someone to translate it. Thanks though :D
[23:08] <wxl> !es-#lubuntu
[23:09] <wxl> oh foo
[23:12] <wxl> @tsimonq2: you have any reason to believe our s3 isn't working?
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: you have any reason to believe our s3 isn't working?], No
[23:15] <wxl> @tsimonq2: do you have reason to believe it is?
 Nope
[23:16] <wxl> any way you can check?
 By EOD, yes
 At most it'd be read only
[23:22] <wxl> that'd be bad
 Well we can still view all of our images, right?
[23:23] <wxl> except for the ones we can't upload
[23:26] <wxl> 413 Request Entity Too Large
[23:26] <wxl> tried to upload it manually and it failed
[23:26] <wxl> looks like the issue *IS* related to nginx and php https://stackoverflow.com/questions/40858702/413-request-entity-too-large-arcanist-review
[23:29] <wxl> also https://secure.phabricator.com/book/phabricator/article/configuring_file_storage/#configuring-upload-limit
[23:29] <wxl> @teward001 you want to take care of tweaking those or what?


[10:03] <commander_> hello developers
[10:04] <commander_> anyone on here ?
[14:50] <jplatte> Hi, I'm about to start creating a new UT App. I have a huge set of Frameworks to select from. Which one should I be using??
[14:50] <jplatte> It's a "QML App with C++ plugin (cmake)", but I still see Frameworks with -html at the end. And -papi, whatever that is.
[14:50] <jplatte> And there are the ones without a suffix, of course
[14:52] <jplatte> I've selected ubuntu-sdk-15.04.1 for now, I guess I can change it later if someone explains the difference to me and using the -qml actually makes more sense
[15:01] <Dragonkeeper> jplatte:  its aimed at the device ur building for
[15:02] <jplatte> Dragonkeeper: That hardly tells me anything. Which framework do the officially supported devices have?
[15:02] <jplatte> And what are those suffixes?
[15:04] <Dragonkeeper> 15.04 , when u plug your device in the version usually shows up to match    and im not 100% on the suffexes
[15:04] <Dragonkeeper> the normal one works for me
[15:05] <jplatte> Alright, then I'll remove the .1
[15:06] <jplatte> Well... The CMake stuff doesn't seem to work
[15:07] <Dragonkeeper> unsure,   using qmake seems to work here
[15:08] <jplatte> I can run cmake sucessfully through the dialog they have (which is really annoying that I have to click as often, but whatever) and when I try to build it tells me CC and CXX have been configured as
[15:08] <jplatte> /usr/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc and /usr/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++
[15:08] <jplatte> Which don't even exist
[15:09] <jplatte> Not gonna use qmake, the generated cmake files are magic enough
[15:09] <Dragonkeeper> are u trying to load it on a device ?
[15:09] <jplatte> I'm only trying to build it right now
[15:10] <Dragonkeeper> do you have desktop kit active ?
[15:10] <jplatte> yes
[15:10] <jplatte> lol it works if I run CMake manually
[15:11] <Dragonkeeper> u can click projects > build run >   edit build steps ...
[15:14] <jplatte> Not sure what exactly you mean
[15:15] <jplatte> But I guess I'll be okay if I only use this hideous SDK thing for project generation, and figure out how to build for my device manually, because building native manually already works better than through the SDK
[15:15] <jplatte> Thanks for trying to help though
[15:16] <Dragonkeeper> the bar on the left  projects icon
[15:18] <jplatte> Yeah I have the build and run tab in the project pane
[15:19] <jplatte> but I can't see any cmake options that I could switch around
[15:19] <Dragonkeeper> make the build steps the same as u do manually :) .  gonna go sleep now, my project is giving me a headache
[15:20] <jplatte> Ohh, you're talking about the build steps below the cmake stuff
[15:20] <jplatte> Yeah that's not gonna help
[15:20] <jplatte> that's what will be executed after cmake is configured
[15:20] <jplatte> but the cmake configuration is the problem
[15:23] <jplatte> Okay, so now I can build natively but it doesn't actually create an executable, instead you're supposed to run qmlscene {something}? I guess I'll just wait until this SDK fixes itself. *sigh*
[16:31] <vthompson> Is there a recommend way to install the latest UI Toolkit that's installed on the rc-proposed image on your development machine? The one in wily (and in the SDK team PPA) appears to be .3.1627+15.10.20150908-0ubuntu1 where as the version in rc-proposed is 1.3.1688+15.04.20151018.1-0ubuntu1
[16:32] <vthompson> That should be 1.3.1627+15.10.20150908-0ubuntu1 above.
[16:50] <dos000> howdy )))
[16:50] <dos000> how do i compile a first app ?
[16:50] <dos000> i installed the ubuntu-sdk from 14.10 but it is still missing some stuff
[16:51] <dos000> ile:///home/me/3rdp/apps/ubuntu/samples/test001/app/Main.qml:2 module "Ubuntu.Components" version 1.1 is not installed
[16:51] <dos000> how do i get that "Ubuntu.Components" ?
[16:53] <vthompson> sudo apt-get install qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin might work, however, if you're running 14.10, maybe the version needs to be 0.1
[16:53] <dos000> hmmm ...
[16:53] <dos000> any idea why this was not installed with ununtu-sdk ?
[16:54] <vthompson> No, it should be installed with the SDK... not sure why it would not have (if it wasn't)
[16:56] <dos000> wohoo .. works now
[16:57] <dos000> thanks )))
[16:57] <vthompson> dos000, what did you have to do (I got disconnected)
[16:57] <dos000> i had to install it )))
[16:57] <dos000> vthompson: it was missing that )))
[16:57] <vthompson> ah :)
[16:57] <dos000> vthompson: would take me years to fix this )))
[16:58] <dos000> thank you sir !
[16:58] <vthompson> No problem!