[00:00] <Stwange> ikonia, I considered contacting the technical support, but then I figured if it's the same connection, same MAC address and same card, they probably wouldn't get any extra details at their end (ie then don't know which OS I'm using), so it was probably a ubuntu issue
[00:00] <ikonia> soundray_: thats plausable but it appears to be some sort of credentials auth thats being offered
[00:00] <ikonia> Stwange: they will get info as they may see things change in their logs
[00:00] <timewriter> im away for a while
[00:00] <soundray_> Stwange: but really, I think your network support people should know what you need to do.
[00:01] <soundray_> Stwange: unless they are a stubborn blockhead MS shop, which universities fortunately tend not to be.
[00:01] <Stwange> thanks ikonia and soundray_. I'll try contacting them, but there's usually limited support for linux
[00:01] <Stwange> yeah :)
[00:01] <ikonia> Stwange: it won't matter your OS, your interested in their access logs
[00:01] <ikonia> Stwange: shouldn't matter what OS you have, more a case of what's changing in their logs
[00:01] <soundray_> Stwange: you just need to find the nerd who's on your side then ;)
[00:02] <FireHazard17> Should I use 64 bit? I am using hardy. flash isn't too neccessary.
[00:02] <FireHazard17> also I am using gnome.
[00:02] <ikonia> FireHazard17: 1.) why are you using hardy 2.) why do you want 64bit
[00:02] <soundray_> FireHazard17: if you have to ask that, I would strongly advise against trying hardy
[00:02] <slimaq> hi i have intel 3100 and when i strat movie in fullscreen he laginig
[00:02] <Zionad_> FireHazard: 64 bit, is basically a headache, especcially wouldnt try it in hardyy..
[00:02] <slimaq> enybody help me?
[00:03] <FireHazard17> wow you guys are negative
[00:03] <Stwange> thanks ikonia and soundray_. I've gtg, but if they don't fix it I'll be back Schwarzenegger style ;)
[00:03] <ikonia> FireHazard17: no, we are realistic in offering sound advice
[00:03] <Zionad_> Exactly
[00:03] <Slart> FireHazard17: 32-bit gutsy would be a more ... pleasurable experience =).. less bumps on the way..
[00:03] <sainzeo> slimaq: please ask your question
[00:03] <slimaq>  i have intel 3100 and when i strat movie in fullscreen he laginig
[00:03] <FireHazard17> If it wasn't for trying new unstable thing 7/10 of us wouldn't be using linux
[00:03] <soundray_> FireHazard17: no, we just hear the squeals of people who have burnt themselves with alpha software everyday. So any pre-alpha software will probably be worse.
[00:03] <ikonia> slimaq: is the movie hd
[00:03] <bulmer> anyone here uses ipv6? i just started using tunnelbroker, i cant semm to ping6 another ipv6 address..you have one I can test to ping?
[00:04] <slimaq> no
[00:04] <slimaq> avi
[00:04] <FireHazard17> soundray_: ok
[00:04] <ikonia> FireHazard17: thats nosense
[00:04] <Templar> how do i exit xserver and kill opengl
[00:04] <FireHazard17> ikonia: oh really?
[00:04] <ikonia> FireHazard17: yes, really
[00:04] <|rly|> the wiki doesn't help a bit
[00:04] <n15t0> timewriter:can u help me out?
[00:04] <FireHazard17> ok then
[00:04] <Slart> FireHazard17: but if you don't mind tinkering.. compiling.. bug-reporting and such.. go ahead with 64-bit hardy
[00:04] <soundray_> FireHazard17: unfortunately your question indicates that you're not one of the select few who will negotiate the hurdles successfully.
[00:04] <bulmer> Templar-> you can /etc/init.d/gdm stop?
[00:04] <ikonia> FireHazard17: use what you want, but remember you will get no support for hardy as a user
[00:04] <FireHazard17> Slart: I love doing those things
[00:05] <ikonia> FireHazard17: you have the warnings and the options, do with it as you will
[00:05] <desertc> FireHazard17: Give it a shot!!  Just create a new partition and you can leave an existing partition available for fall-back.
[00:05] <Slart> FireHazard17: then don't let us stop you.. go install 64bit hardy
[00:05] <soundray_> FireHazard17: go ahead then, and remember the IRC channel is #ubuntu+1
[00:05] <FireHazard17> 60% of my software is compiled from source anyway
[00:05] <ikonia> FireHazard17: then you will break your package manager. good luck
[00:05] <Zionad_> Then you are welcome to try firehazard!
[00:05] <Zionad_> Haha, oh wow
[00:06] <soundray_> ikonia: I agree, we are negative ;)
[00:06] <ikonia> having a package manager conflict in a fast changing development release = doom
[00:06]  * IndyGunFreak agrees w/ ikonia
[00:06] <Slart> FireHazard17: just out of curiosity.. why ubuntu.. why not slackware.. fedora centos.. or something else where you get to do all that stuff..
[00:06] <FireHazard17> I don't know
[00:06] <n15t0> ikonia:can i set my status away in bitchx?
[00:06] <FireHazard17> never took the time to switch
[00:06] <ikonia> n15t0: thats not allowed in #ubuntu
[00:07] <soundray_> Slart: add Debian Sid to the list ( FireHazard17)
[00:07] <Slart> FireHazard17: or one of those.. "build if from the ground and up"-distros
[00:07] <n15t0> ikonia:okay but just that i know how can i do it?
[00:07] <ikonia> n15t0: you can
[00:07] <n15t0> ikonia:i wont do it in this cahnnel
[00:07] <ikonia> n15t0: its server wide, you can't set it on a per-channel basis
[00:08] <n15t0> ikonia:okay thx
[00:08] <kev_b> Can anyone tell me why in Bluefish the tabs aren't draggable but this says they are: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TabConsistency ?
[00:08] <Slart> Debian.. are they still at Sid? sheesh I used sid.. must have been a couple of years ago
[00:08] <n15t0> ikonia:and can i save my settings in bitchx? like the name and the server?
[00:08] <ikonia> n15t0: for the 10th time, yes
[00:08] <ikonia> n15t0: you've asked that about 10 times
[00:09] <ikonia> n15t0: either learn to listen and make notes, or stop asking the same question over and over
[00:09]  * Slart install bluefish
[00:09] <n15t0> its my second time
[00:09] <n15t0> because i didnt get an answer
[00:09] <ikonia> n15t0: no its not
[00:09] <ikonia> n15t0: 5 people answered you, and you thanked 2, I have it in my logs
[00:09] <n15t0> well then i was away
[00:09] <sainzeo> do you guys recommend using Bluefish in ubuntu or nvu?
[00:10] <fred_> join #compiz-fusion
[00:10] <n15t0> sry
[00:10] <Slart> kev_b: hmm.. I can't drag my tabs either.. let's check that link.. perhaps it's for a newer version
[00:11] <n15t0> -c <#ubuntu>
[00:11] <soundray_> n15t0: asking for help, then ignoring the help is incredibly rude. Being "sry" is not enough.
[00:12] <Dr_willis> BitchX has a large # of web sites covreing its ussage also.
[00:12] <VSpike> This makes cheery reading : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVDAuthoring
[00:12] <n15t0> i am just looking for the infos i get
[00:12] <n15t0> i cant be at 2 different shells at one time
[00:12] <Dr_willis> n15t0,  with 'screen' you can. :)
[00:13] <Dr_willis> !info screen
[00:13] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-0.4ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 574 kB, installed size 984 kB
[00:13] <Slart> kev_b: nope.. can't drag any tabs.. despite the wiki claiming I should be able to.. perhaps they just made a mistake when making that list..
[00:13] <amir__> helo
[00:14] <amir__> somebody there
[00:14] <n15t0> anything in german
[00:14] <desertc> !hi | amir__
[00:14] <ubotu> amir__: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[00:14] <n15t0> -.-
[00:14] <ikonia> yes, many
[00:14] <Slart> amieyes.. we're here
[00:14] <n15t0> its quite difficult
[00:14] <amir__> thanx
[00:14] <Slart> oops.. sorry.. amir__
[00:14] <amir__> i need some help
[00:14] <ikonia> amir__: then ask a question
[00:14] <amir__> how can i install a program
[00:14] <amir__> a software
[00:14] <Dr_willis> 'depends' :)
[00:14] <soundray_> amir__: what program?
[00:14] <ikonia> amir__: use the package manager, such as "synaptic"
[00:14] <amir__> autocad
[00:15] <n15t0> -c
[00:15] <ikonia> n15t0: why do you keep saying "-c"
[00:15] <soundray_> amir__: forget it, it won't run on Linux. Stick with Windows or Mac OS
[00:15] <zaxius> how do you edit what services are running, like ssh, ftp, etc
[00:15] <mrfantastic> anyone have any success with compiz in xubuntu with a mobility radeon m6?
[00:15] <|rly|> I cannot be heard on skype, I've tried all that comes in the wiki... nothing works
[00:15] <Slart> amir__: I don't think autocad is available for ubuntu.. there might be an open source alternative.. I don't know
[00:15] <amir__> thank u very much
[00:15] <ikonia> zaxius: netstat -a |grep LISTEN
[00:15] <amir__> another question
[00:15] <ikonia> zaxius: ps -ef | more
[00:15] <VSpike> amir_: there was a recent article in LXF about cad on linux
[00:16] <amir__> wireless...how can i intall the driver
[00:16] <n15t0> because in the man bitchx stands that -c channel then i can automatically join the cahnnel
[00:16] <zaxius> ikonia: no but how do you edit them? like if i want to make the ssh daemon run by default at bootup
[00:16] <Dr_willis> !info qcad
[00:16] <ubotu> qcad: A professional CAD System. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2954 kB, installed size 12648 kB
[00:16] <dablueman> HELLO, any ubuntu developers in here
[00:16] <ikonia> n15t0: you keep doing it in the wrong window
[00:16] <ikonia> dablueman: just ask your question
[00:16] <amir__> thanks
[00:16] <Dr_willis> n15t0,  right so ya would do BitchX -c #ubuntu or somthing like that..
[00:16] <amir__> wireless problem
[00:17] <Dr_willis> n15t0,  its a COMMAND line option to BitchX
[00:17] <n15t0> iknoia:in which window then?
[00:17] <mpatters> hi all
[00:17] <ikonia> n15t0: one that BitchX isn't running in
[00:17] <scguy318> dablueman: Ubuntu devs don't usually hang out here I think
[00:17] <n15t0> k
[00:17] <dablueman> very well, why is it that only security bugs get fixed in ubuntu and not other bugs
[00:17] <ikonia> scguy318: there are a few in
[00:17] <amir__> some help with wireless problem
[00:17] <zaxius> ikonia, do you know?
[00:17] <ikonia> dablueman: bugs do get fixed
[00:17] <tonyyarusso> dablueman: All get fixed.
[00:17] <Dr_willis> thats what backports is for.
[00:17] <dablueman> oh yeah, like what
[00:17] <ikonia> dablueman: security ones will get a higher priority normally due to it being a security issue
[00:17] <Dr_willis> isent it.
[00:18] <ikonia> dablueman: go into launchapd and view closed bugs
[00:18] <amir__> i need help with the wireless
[00:18] <dablueman> for example
[00:18] <sidelil> can anybody suggest me a good guide for shell scripting? Thanks
[00:18] <tupson> hi, my Appearance Preferences have been "Extra" enabled, how do I get the CUBE to function? my windows get the enhanced effect, but i cant get the CUBE to work
[00:18] <stdin> dablueman: have a look on the bugteacker, there are many non-security bugs fixed
[00:18] <dablueman> slow dns lookups in every aplication that uses net work
[00:18] <ikonia> sidelil: http://www.tldp.org - good guides
[00:18] <soundray_> sidelil: /join #bash and read the topic there.
[00:18] <amir__> the cube
[00:18] <ikonia> dablueman: where is that bug logged
[00:18] <dablueman> i will check this launchepad
[00:19] <VSpike> sidelil: google for advanced bash scripting guide
[00:19] <Slart> dablueman: wasn't that a ipv6 issue? seem to recall something like that
[00:19] <dablueman> it is on there
[00:19] <ikonia> dablueman: dns lookups are very quikc on my ubuntu machines, please post the log
[00:19] <tonyyarusso> dablueman: most of us don't actually memorize thousands of bug ID numbers, believe it or not.
[00:19] <dablueman> has it been committed to the main ubuntu tree
[00:19] <ikonia> tonyyarusso: speak for yourself mortal
[00:19] <tupson> amir: yea the ubuntu cube effects
[00:19] <sidelil> thank you all!
[00:19] <tonyyarusso> ikonia: Sorry, that space in my head is keeping track of irssi windows.  :P
[00:19] <dablueman> can we go private devs to speak of this
[00:19] <ikonia> dablueman: please show me the bug
[00:20] <ikonia> dablueman: no, speak in the channel
[00:20] <dablueman> ok wait 30 secs
[00:20] <Slart> dablueman: they fix bugs.. they might not fix a specific bug right away.. but eventually they'll get to it.. if you want it fixed, have a go at it yourself.. or if you've got lots of cash hire someone to do it..
[00:20] <n15t0> okay,so thx to all who helped me with my problems
[00:20] <n15t0> gn8 everyone
[00:21] <Slart> good night n15t0
[00:21] <n15t0> and have fun with ubuntu
[00:21] <n15t0> good night Slart
[00:21] <n15t0> cya all
[00:21] <tupson> in ubuntu 7.10, what is the cube keystroke?
[00:21] <dablueman> here is the said bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/155393
[00:21] <permanoia> i added a display on my user. now when i log in my bars dont come up etc for gnome and i cant do anything... where is the gnome-control-center file located?
[00:22] <Slart> tupson: middle mouse button I think.. you can change it in the compiz configuration thingy
[00:22] <Falican> how do i create a short cut to open an ssh session? I created a launcher with the command ssh -X<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and it throws up a dialog for the password then nothing opens after that . . .
[00:22] <dablueman> im a college student, and that bug inhibits my usability and productivity
[00:22] <ikonia> dablueman: please show us the bug report
[00:22] <dablueman> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/155393
[00:22] <some_idiot> does ubuntu have only support for running ia32 apps ... but not for building ia32 apps?
[00:22] <Dr_willis> Falican,  could make it run 'xterm -e YOURCOMMANDS'
[00:23] <ikonia> simon360_: ia32 is dead, if you have an ia32 platform gcc will build it
[00:23] <magnetron> some_idiot: the ia32 can build ia32 apps for sure!
[00:23] <Falican> Dr_willis: thnx that sounds good i guess . . . fedora's launch had a run in shell option :P
[00:23] <some_idiot> does ubuntu have only support for running ia32 apps ... but not for building ia32 apps? ... sorry, I meant when I'm running on amd64
[00:23] <heatmzzr> well im not no professional but i cant play this dvd to save my butt, shows everything installed i need i believe.
[00:23] <Dr_willis> Falican,  ive seen similer optuion in kde. not sure about gnome.
[00:24] <dablueman> heatmzzr: see the ubuntu wiki
[00:24] <ikonia> dablueman: there is a work around in place and a fix in the next release.
[00:24] <dablueman> next release!!???
[00:24] <Extravert> hello I have a problem with my sound.  At random times my sound does not work.  It may be from certain running software but it seems that my drivers are broken.  When I change the sound volumes, the icon shows that its being muted and unmuted.  Any help?
[00:24] <dablueman> you mean hardyheron
[00:24] <ikonia> dablueman: yes
[00:24] <dablueman> I have to wait that long for this to be fixed?
[00:24] <Slart> heatmzzr: what media player are you using?
[00:24] <ikonia> dablueman: yes, it may get back ported
[00:24] <ikonia> dablueman: there is a work around detailed in that bug report
[00:25] <dablueman> Just FYI, I already fixed it for me, but what about every other Ubuntu user out there?
[00:25] <dablueman> They are being plagued by this.
[00:25] <ikonia> dablueman: there is a work around in the bug report and a fix is being released and back ported
[00:25] <Falican> Dr_willis: yeah gnome had it .  . . *shrug* -e works fine thnx :)
[00:26] <dablueman> Yes, I understand, but why doesn't it get updated by the little update tool that I have installed on my system :(
[00:26] <tupson> Question, I have just installed Ubuntu 7.10, my ATL Raedon 9600 card is running the latest drivers and i have xerver-xgl installed, however under System > Pref > I dont have the "Desktop Effects" option to enable Desktop Cube, help?
[00:26] <ikonia> dablueman because the fix hasn't been released yet
[00:26] <dablueman> but we know the fix
[00:26] <ikonia> dablueman: do you ?
[00:26] <dablueman> yes
[00:27] <Slart> tupson: hmm.. there is a package for the config utility.. compiz-manager or something.. hang on
[00:27] <ikonia> dablueman: thats not what the bug says
[00:27] <ikonia> dablueman: if you want an update, post a request in the book update
[00:27] <Slart> !info compizconfig-settings-manager | tupson
[00:27] <ubotu> tupson: compizconfig-settings-manager: Compiz configuration settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 498 kB, installed size 3268 kB
[00:27] <dablueman> I have it fixed on my machine
[00:27] <ikonia> dablueman: that is "your" fix
[00:27] <Slart> tupson: install that
[00:27] <Extravert> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets/+bug/136837
[00:27] <dablueman> Where is this book update?
[00:27] <tupson> will that be listed in the software source?
[00:27] <ikonia> dablueman: update it on launchapd
[00:27] <ikonia> launchpad
[00:27] <Slart> tupson: yes.. it's in the repos
[00:28] <dablueman> Okay wait, I will show you my fix.
[00:28] <whileimhere> Hi. When I try to use emule it reports that I am behind a firewall. I know that the router has a firewall turned off. Is there one in Ubuntu hidden?
[00:28] <Slart> tupson: you can do "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager"
[00:28] <ikonia> dablueman: I'm not interested in your fix
[00:28] <dablueman> not really my fix, but I did contirbute
[00:28] <ikonia> dablueman: update the launchpad bug
[00:28] <dablueman> very well
[00:28] <ikonia> dablueman: you will have another work around, not a fix
[00:28] <robr> i'm runnig ubuntu server and i need to open a port on my firewall, whats the best way to do that?
[00:28] <ikonia> dablueman: the fix is pending, if you read ht ebook report
[00:28] <Slart> whileimhere: there is a firewall in linux.. but it's usually "disabled".
[00:28] <ikonia> robr: what firewall are you using
[00:28] <whileimhere> Slart how can I check it?
[00:28] <dablueman> a workaround it is then
[00:29] <robr> ikonia: i don't know the default?
[00:29] <ikonia> dablueman: there is already a work around in the bug report
[00:29] <Slart> whileimhere: you can check by running "sudo iptables -L" if there are more than about 3 lines of output it's probably active
[00:29] <ikonia> robr: there is no firewall running by default
[00:29] <dablueman> very well
[00:29] <robr> ikonia: ok thanks for the info
[00:29] <whileimhere> Slart there are about well 3 lines
[00:30] <dablueman> do ubuntu developers get paid to work on ubuntu
[00:30] <ikonia> dablueman: some do
[00:30] <Slart> whileimhere: then the firewall is just letting everything through.. disabled if you want
[00:30] <dablueman> really
[00:30] <ikonia> dablueman: yes
[00:30] <dablueman> how come they get paid, are they special or something?
[00:30] <ikonia> dablueman: companies sponsor them, but this is offtopic
[00:31] <dablueman> offtopic, its about ubuntu
[00:31] <dablueman> ubuntu support
[00:31] <dablueman> :)
[00:31] <Slart> whileimhere: are you behind some kind of router? perhaps you need to setup some kind of forwarding rule..
[00:31] <dablueman> I have the feeling that I'm bugging you, so I'll stop talking to you for a while.
[00:32] <ikonia> dablueman: this is a support channel, not a chat channel
[00:32] <dablueman> very well
[00:32] <whileimhere> Slart: I set up the port forwarding just like normal with GTK-GNUTELLA but amule says I am firewalled. I double checked the prefs as well
[00:32] <andre> Hello every body
[00:32] <ikonia> whileimhere: it is probably your router
[00:32] <ping> how do you get your windows to have different effects when they vanish
[00:33] <Paddy_EIRE> is there an mplayer key combo for disabling subtitles
[00:33] <scguy318> whileimhere: aMule probably uses a different port which you have to forward, or am I misreading your issue?
[00:33] <andre> Do you konw a little bit about alsa and external sound card ?
[00:33] <whileimhere> When I log into the router (aka my DSL modem) I check the firewall settings and they say that the firewall is off and allowing all traffic.
[00:33] <Slart> whileimhere: hmm.. perhaps you forgot some ports? forwarded the wrong ones? didn't apply your changes? what ports are we talking about btw? under 1024?
[00:34] <ikonia> whileimhere: you probably need portforwarding
[00:34] <Extravert> can someone plz hlep me.  At random times my sound driver becomes unable to open and unknown
[00:34] <scguy318> whileimhere: but the forwarding rules still need to be established, else how can your router map outgoing connections to internal endpoints?
[00:34] <whileimhere> Scguy318 no I want to use amule which I set up for port 5000
[00:34] <scguy318> whileimhere: *incoming
[00:34] <scguy318> whileimhere: you probably need to add a forward entry for that port if you haven't already
[00:34] <Slart> ping: you can change this in the compiz settings thingy.. System, preferences, appearance or Advanced Desktop Effects settings
[00:35]  * Pelo spots freshmeat
[00:35] <tupson> Slart: thanks that worked!
[00:35] <ping> ok thanks slart my buddy just helped me with it i thought that was where it was i just didn't know what to do
[00:35] <ubun00b> i deleted an image by accident... how can i recover this?
[00:35] <ikonia> ubun00b: nope its gone unless it's in your trash bin
[00:36] <Slart> tupson: great.. you're welcome.. now stay around and tell the same thing to the next person that asks that question ;)
[00:36] <Pelo> ubun00b, is itstill in the trash can ?
[00:36] <tupson> hehe, i am documenting it now :)
[00:36] <ubun00b> ikonia: it seems it was to big to go in the trash
[00:36] <ikonia> ubun00b: then it's gone
[00:36] <ubun00b> to=too
[00:36] <ubun00b> aarg
[00:36] <ikonia> ubun00b: that must have been a very big image
[00:36] <Slart> ping: you're welcome.. always good with live help sitting next to you =)
[00:36] <ikonia> over 3gb to be too big for the bin
[00:36] <ubun00b> ikonia: about 4GB
[00:36] <heartsblood> Does anybody know if Gutsy can be loaded on the Asus EEE yet?  There were problems with the acpi drivers not being GNU compliant and warrenty problems about removing the version of 'Asus linux'.
[00:36] <Pelo> ubun00b, I wasn't aware that the trash in linux had a size limit, it's not lke the recycling bin in windows ,
[00:37] <heartsblood> when it was first released anyway
[00:37] <J-_> how do I theme synaptic?
[00:37] <ikonia> Pelo: 3.$something gig
[00:37] <soundray_> heartsblood: there is a UK company that sells it with Gutsy preinstalled
[00:37] <Pelo> heartsblood, there was an article about it on diggs a few days ago , I think they did it
[00:37] <ikonia> J-_: its gtk themes
[00:37] <Pelo> ikonia,  that sucks
[00:37] <Dr_willis> J-_,  its ran as root, so you need to run the theme tools as root... that will set the theme for synatpic
[00:37] <ubun00b> ikonia: i tried to delete the rar files with the command  'rm *.r**'
[00:37] <heartsblood> soundray_, you wouldn't happen to know the name of the company do you?
[00:37] <ikonia> ubun00b: you told me it was an image, not a rar file
[00:37] <ubun00b> ikonia: somehow the image file was deleted in the process
[00:37] <J-_> ikonia: I have a murrine theme, installed it. I'm using it currently, but synaptic isn't themed proper.
[00:38] <soundray_> heartsblood: I can look it up
[00:38] <Dr_willis> ubun00b,  thats a lot of *'s :)
[00:38] <ikonia> ubun00b: its gone now
[00:38] <ubun00b> ikonia: well, i had extracted the iso file from the multiple rar files
[00:38] <ikonia> J-_: it runs of the same gtk engine as gnome
[00:38] <Pelo> ubun00b,  cd to ~/.Trash , see if it is in there , the command is ls
[00:38] <Odd-rationale> I just installed alltray. But i can't figure out how to make it work.
[00:38]  * Dr_willis wonders if ** is different from * in a filetype glob.
[00:38] <ikonia> ubun00b: it's gone if its not in the bin
[00:38] <heatmzzr> what are the better distros, other than ubuntu?
[00:38] <soundray_> heartsblood: http://efficientpc.co.uk/laptops/
[00:38] <ikonia> heatmzzr: thats personal opinion, and quite argumentative to ask in #ubuntu
[00:38] <Dr_willis> heatmzzr,  it depends on your needs. Ive seen very few that are better.
[00:38] <ubun00b> Pelo: i have, it seems it's gone... arg
[00:39] <jrib> Dr_willis: in zsh, **/ will be recursive
[00:39] <Odd-rationale> heatmzzr: I like Puppy Linux
[00:39] <Pelo> heatmzzr, gentoo seems popular, opensuse is also well liked,  and there is always debian
[00:39] <BSG75> how do I turn on highspeed usb for usb2.0 pls?? I am getting about 10MB/sec transfer with my usb hard drive
[00:39] <Dr_willis> PuppyLinux is darn handy.
[00:39] <coccoon55> anyone especially bored and know their way around usb wireless connecitons?
[00:39] <heartsblood> Pelo: found the article you were talking about, ty.
[00:39] <Pelo> ubun00b, you've been in denail, no you are ready for anger
[00:39] <heartsblood> soundray_, looking at it now
[00:39] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  that would of been funnier with out the typos. :)
[00:40] <Pelo> BSG75, it should be turned on by default
[00:40] <whileimhere> Hmm I have port 5000 forwarded on TCP and UDP
[00:40] <Extravert> how do I check whats using my sound card?
[00:40] <Pelo> Dr_willis, most of what I write would be better without typos ;(
[00:40] <Slart> BSG75: that isn't enough? sounds reasonable for a hard drive or something
[00:40] <soundray_> BSG75: USB HD transfer rates are limited to 30MB/sec, so you're not that far from the optimum
[00:40] <ubun00b> Pelo: denial you mean?  i sure am kind of pissed now, yes :-)
[00:40] <ikonia> ubun00b: please watch your language
[00:40] <BSG75> Pelo: it is doing a real poor job .. hdparm -t -T shows 28MB/sec .. however it is nowhere close to that in RL copy/paste
[00:41] <soundray_> BSG75: it's a hardware limitation
[00:41] <Pelo> ubun00b, give it a few minutes and you'll be ready for acceptance
[00:41] <thyrax> any site with screenshots of ubuntu running compiz?
[00:41] <ubun00b> ikonia: it was said with a smile...
[00:41] <ikonia> ubun00b: so ? that doesn't make it any less offensive language
[00:41] <Slart> Extravert: I'm not sure about this.. but perhaps lsof will show you something.. don't know if soundcards are files in linux..but perhaps
[00:41] <Extravert> Slart: thanks
[00:41] <Pelo> BSG75, I can't help you get any better,  my own usb stuff seems a bit slow on copying to,  copying from usb is much quicker
[00:42] <ubun00b> ikonia: well, everything should be viewed in it's context
[00:42] <Pelo> ikonia,  give the kid a break,  he just lost 4 gig of data
[00:42] <ubun00b> i think anyway
[00:42] <BSG75> how can it be hardware limit when the same drive on the same machine on winXP gets 27MB/sec?? :(
[00:42] <BSG75> Pelo: I will try an discrete usb card .. turn off usb onboard
[00:42] <ikonia> ubun00b: I'm not aruging, please just watch your language
[00:42] <BSG75> X fingers and pray
[00:42] <ubun00b> ikonia: oki
[00:42] <J-_> what's the program called that themes gtk? I want to gksu the command so th window pops up as root and theme everything, see if that helps.
[00:42] <BSG75> thanks guys
[00:42] <ikonia> J-_: that won't help.
[00:43] <ikonia> J-_: gnome as a desktop applies the theme
[00:43] <soundray_> BSG75: 30MB is a hardware limit
[00:43] <kappakappuccino> o/
[00:43] <Pelo> BSG75, best of luck  let me know if you figure things out,  also check in the forum for other stuff ppl have treid,  www.ubuntuforums.lorg
[00:43] <BSG75> thanks Pelo.. thanks Soundray
[00:43] <J-_> ikonia: then how can I make synaptic and other root windows use a theme?
[00:43] <kappakappuccino> .lorg
[00:43] <kappakappuccino> is that new?
[00:43] <ikonia> J-_: I'm surprised they are not
[00:44] <Slart> kappakappuccino: probably just a typo.. .org
[00:44] <kappakappuccino> yeah ;[
[00:44] <J-_> ikonia: it's happened before, I forget what I did to get them themed.
[00:44] <junkeR> hello, Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> hangs up and is really choppy when viewing a Javascript Fade Image slideshow. Is this normal..? Any fix for this? (no one was helping me in the Official Firefox support channel)
[00:44] <J-_> t'was a long time ago. but yeah, I'll google I suppose
[00:44] <dem_> rte
[00:44] <dem_> hey
[00:44] <Slart> junkeR: do you have an url?
[00:45] <Pelo> soundray_, 30 mb/s means I should be filling up my 2 gig flash in 68 secs ? is is 30mB or 30mb /s ?
[00:45] <ikonia> Pelo: gigabit not gigabyte
[00:45] <ikonia> megabit not megabyte sorry
[00:45] <Pelo> ikonia, thanks
[00:45] <dem_> thanks
[00:45] <Pelo> so 8 x more time
[00:45] <Extravert> found it! firefox breaks my sound
[00:46] <dem_> #debian
[00:46] <J-_> ikonia: ah hah! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60350 thanks anyway!
[00:46] <Pelo> so 8 min more or less to fill up 2 gig,  I'M not even close to that , takes me over 30 min
[00:46] <ikonia> J-_: well done
[00:46] <Slart> Extravert: lsof worked?
[00:46] <soundray_> Pelo (ikonia): 30 megabytes per second is what I meant. Your arithmetic isn't quite right.
[00:46] <Extravert> Slart: well lsof | grep "alsa"
[00:47] <Extravert> Slart: but my sound is still broken =(
[00:47] <Slart> Extravert: sweeet.. I'll remember that for later... so firefox eats your sound.. flash?
[00:47] <Extravert> Slart: probably
[00:47] <Pelo> soundray_,  30 mB ? ok my arithmetic is   2 gig x 1024 meg / 30 meg/s  = 68 sec
[00:48] <Slart> Extravert: any special site? url?
[00:48]  * Pelo is gonna start a flame war with soundray_  over this,  I hope he is ready
[00:48] <junkeR> http://www.couloir.org/  This one is Ajax but performs just like the javascript ones
[00:48] <harking_> anyone have experience with the EVMS bug?
[00:48] <ikonia> harking_: which bug is that
[00:49] <evo7> guys .. I downloaded the file with format tar.gz ... how to install it?
[00:49] <Slart> junkeR: well.. it isn't smooth.. but it's still usable..
[00:49] <Extravert> Slart: well I have two problems : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/150129    and    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets/+bug/136837
[00:49] <junkeR> http://www.couloir.org/js_slideshow  Here is another and performs poorly.  These all performed well on a Windows machine
[00:49] <harking_> ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/115616
[00:49] <Pelo> evo7,   go back to the site whre you got it , see if you can't get a deb file instead,  otherwise we'll tell you how to compilie manualy
[00:49] <junkeR> I know they're usable but is this something I'll just have to live with?
[00:49] <harking_> ikonia, just wondering what i should do, because i can't remove EVMS without my raid breaking
[00:49] <harking_> :(
[00:50] <Slart> junkeR: the last one was better.. don't know why though..
[00:50] <limac> l
[00:50] <limac> k
[00:50] <limac> j
[00:50] <limac> h
[00:50] <soundray_> Pelo: I take it all back. You are right. If you do get 30MB written to the disk in a second (which is possible on USB2.0 with recent disks), then you will indeed fill up your 2GB in 68 seconds
[00:50] <Pelo> limac, please stop that
[00:50] <Slart> junkeR: hard to tell if it's lagging when you don't have anything to compare with
[00:50] <j0hn__> i'm trying to install cdemu. i think i got it, except the final 'modprobe' step... can somebody please help?
[00:50] <limac> Pelo: srry
[00:51]  * Pelo pats soundray_ on the head
[00:51] <RandomUsr> hello
[00:51] <ikonia> harking_: bug is still open
[00:51] <junkeR> Opera, Epiphany, Firefox all suffer from it.  Flash-based galleries don't suffer.  Well I tried a ton of various code examples.  Once I would get to a medium sized image it would choke up.  It handles small images perfectly htough
[00:51] <RandomUsr> anyone here using apache web server in gutsy?
[00:51] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: lol, is the ubuntu bug page your homepage?..lol
[00:51] <ikonia> harking_: there is a fix release for the ubuntu update-manager
[00:51]  * soundray_ grabs Pelos arm and twists it on his back
[00:51] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: its a bookmark
[00:51] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: I use it a lot
[00:51] <Odd-rationale> How do I start an app in maximized mode?
[00:51] <Slart> Extravert: haven't run into either of those bugs so far.. perhaps there will be a fix soon..
[00:51] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: i can tell, i don't think i've ever saw a bug mentioned, that you didn't know about, and i'm serious about that.
[00:52] <Pelo> evo7, how are you doing , finding a .deb files or do you think we will have to teach you how to compile ?
[00:52] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[00:52] <shinda> hey guys was wondering if anyone around was familiar with setting up apache virtual sites, I keep getting 403 errors on my config, I've checked my permissions and all and set them to be 755, so I'm not sure why I keep getting the 403
[00:52] <junkeR> http://creative-wood.com/tempsite/index.php  here is a temporary site I'm working on that has a flash and javascript one.  It severely lags on the scripting one
[00:52] <Extravert> Slart: I bet wine could have caused it
[00:52]  * Pelo 's typing seems to improve with just the one arm
[00:52]  * rmaj declares ubuntu officially useless (for people with internet)
[00:52] <Slart> Extravert: wine does strange things to my computer.. I could totally believe wine eating the sound..
[00:52] <ikonia> rmaj: ok, thats great. Thanks for using
[00:52] <Extravert> Slart: bullseye
[00:52]  * IndyGunFreak doesn't want to know what Pelo is doing with the other arm.
[00:52] <harking_> ikonia, i tried removing evms, but the raid broke
[00:52] <lulu> I just installed ubuntu gutsy but X failed to start with an ATI Radeon X700, I just solved the problem and it is not well documented. who should I report the bug to?
[00:52] <Pelo> rmaj,  we are all on the internet here ans we tend to disagre
[00:53] <harking_> i thought the patch for update-manager was just to allow the removal of evms cleanly
[00:53] <Extravert> Slart: wine takes over the sound
[00:53] <ikonia> harking_: yes, it will as the volume manager controlls the raid gorup
[00:53] <rmaj> Pelo: inet stoped working, and noone can fix this
[00:53] <ikonia> group
[00:53] <Slart> junkeR: that last one works nicely.. smooth and nice..
[00:53] <ikonia> rmaj: slating the product won't help you get support
[00:53] <Pelo> rmaj, what kind of connection ?
[00:53] <evo7> Pelo, it is better to teach me how to compile the tar.gz file.
[00:53] <rmaj> my network doest work (routing table is always empty, even after route add default dev eth0) ... simple DHCP network, worked always... anybody can help?
[00:53] <ikonia> evo7: no it's not
[00:53] <junkeR> well the top one is flash but the bottom one is javascript.  The javascript performs poorly on my PC
[00:53] <rmaj> ikonia: asking for solution didn't lead to any solution as well so far
[00:53] <IndyGunFreak> evo7: not really... its best to stick w/ whats in the repos, only compile if absolutely necessary,
[00:53] <Pelo> evo7,  ok join me in #pelo , so we can have some quiet time
[00:54] <Bawbatos> is there a gui for building an ipsec turnnel
[00:54] <Odd-rationale> Has the flashplugin-nonfree package in the repos benn fixed?
[00:54] <ikonia> rmaj: your current attitude won't get you help either, detail your problem and ask politly
[00:54] <Odd-rationale> *been
[00:54] <ikonia> Odd-rationale: no not yet
[00:54] <ikonia> Odd-rationale: hardy back port is being progressed
[00:54] <Slart> junkeR: javascript.... is javascript affected by your jre?
[00:54]  * Odd-rationale sigh
[00:54] <drakode> How is the redesign of the web site??? http://www.linux.melkor.cl/
[00:54] <ikonia> Odd-rationale: the hardy package has the correct checksums
[00:54] <IndyGunFreak> evo7: type this w/o quotes.. "/join #pelo"
[00:55] <krammer> what do i use to build a server for ubuntu?
[00:55] <junkeR> I don't have a JRE installed that I am aware of.
[00:55] <ikonia> drakode: this is an ubuntu support channel
[00:55] <evo7> ikonia -> Why? FYI, I downloaded themes for gDesklets but it in tar.gz format
[00:55] <ikonia> krammer: the ubutnu server cd
[00:55] <drakode> Too soon will be in English and other languages
[00:55] <harking_> ikonia, so i guess i need to know if there is a way to keep evms installed and have udev not freak out
[00:55] <evo7> IndyGunFreak, yes yes. TQ
[00:55] <ikonia> harking_: thats the bit thats not fixed at the moment
[00:55] <harking_> ahh,
[00:55] <IndyGunFreak> evo7: i think pelo was talking to you
[00:55] <Odd-rationale> How soon do you think it will take for it to get working again?
[00:55] <ikonia> evo7: it looks like a fix has been ported for suse, but not released
[00:56] <junkeR> I guess I have java 1.5.0  I didn't know Ubuntu shipped with a runtime evironment
[00:56] <Slart> junkeR: I'm not sure about this.. but you could try installing suns java runtime.. perhaps it will improve things..
[00:56] <ikonia> Odd-rationale: very quickly, I'm surprised its not done yet, however I understand why
[00:56] <drakode> it is a web of support, contains manuals and faq's
[00:56] <ikonia> drakode: this is ubuntu operating system support channel only
[00:56] <junkeR> I'll give that a try.. it's not the biggest issue, but thanks for your help
[00:56] <Odd-rationale> ikonia: OK Thanks! I'll wait for tomorrow...
[00:56] <ikonia> Odd-rationale: I'm following the bug myseld
[00:56] <ikonia> myself
[00:57] <Odd-rationale> Will hardy use Gnash you think?
[00:57] <Slart> junkeR: you're welcome to the little help I had to give.. don't know a lot about java =/
[00:57] <ikonia> Odd-rationale: depends on it's progress, there is an adobe package so I guess it will be the same options as gutsy
[00:57] <drakode>  ikonia ok, np
[00:57] <slimjimflim> how do you find out when a package was first installed?
[00:57] <rainmakers999> does anyone know of a web server that will support multicasting?
[00:57]  * differentreality Every step that I take is another mistake to YOUUUUUUUUUUUU
[00:58] <thyrax> What is the best way to get Terminal Transparent Embeded on the Desktop???
[00:58] <rmaj> so ubuntu fails to use internet, and this channel fails to help :(
[00:58] <kappakappuccino> crawwwling in my skiiiiin, these oooranges will not peeel
[00:58] <kappakappuccino> differentreality, ?
[00:58] <ikonia> rmaj: I'm on the interent
[00:58] <rmaj> ikonia: fails on this box
[00:58] <ikonia> rmaj: drop the attitude and you'll get help as I said
[00:58] <slimjimflim> rainmaker999 apache
[00:58] <ikonia> rmaj: but you persist with the complaining attitude
[00:58] <rmaj> ikonia: well ok;  so, want technical data?
[00:59] <thyrax> What is the best way to get Terminal Transparent Embeded on the Desktop? anyone have this done in gnome?
[00:59] <ikonia> rmaj: your asking the wrong person, I'm helping people who have manners at the moment
[00:59] <rmaj> ikonia:  DHCP inet;  works on debian box;  worked on THIS ubuntu but suddenly stoped (after another reboot)
[00:59] <JarG0n> nautilus-cd-burner is stuck in a 'calculating' state after dropping some folders for burning.  The process status is 'sleeping'.  Any idea why this is happening?
[00:59] <harking_> ikonia: i tried reading the evms bug, but it was quite long and little info
[00:59] <rmaj> ikonia: kind Sir or Madda, will thou help me?
[00:59] <differentreality> kappakappuccino, yessss??????
[00:59] <kappakappuccino> you started it
[01:00] <slimjimflim> rmaj, you should have made a backup
[01:00] <ikonia> harking_: yes, I understand that, there is an issue as you rightly pointed out between evms and udev controlling device nodes, there has been a fix pulled from opensuse from what I've read but that looks like it's been in testing
[01:00] <ikonia> slimjimflim: a backup of what ?
[01:00] <slimjimflim> the hard drive
[01:00] <super-6-1_desk> hello does anyone know why i cant install anything with 7.10 installed?
[01:00] <ikonia> slimjimflim: why ?
[01:00] <ikonia> slimjimflim: what would that do ?
[01:00] <rmaj> slimjimflim: what?
[01:00] <ikonia> super-6-1_desk: can you explain the problem
[01:00] <slimjimflim> it'd undo whatever he just did
[01:01] <ikonia> rmaj: I'll be with you in a minute
[01:01] <ikonia> slimjimflim: how do you know he did anything, dhcp could have died a tthe server ?
[01:01] <rmaj> DHCP server is on router of course, and I did nothing to this box
[01:01] <harking_> ikonia: thanks for the info, i'll subscribe to the bug.
[01:01] <ikonia> harking_: understood
[01:01] <myusrnm> how do i check mount points?
[01:01] <super-6-1_desk> ikonia: when ever i go to add/remove it always asks to reload and it never stops asking
[01:01] <slimjimflim> rmaj, how are you connected it dhcp is down
[01:01] <ikonia> myusrnm: mount
[01:02] <ikonia> slimjimflim: he's not, thats the problem
[01:02] <MasterShrek> super-6-1_desk, do: sudo apt-get update    in a terminal and pastebin the output
[01:02] <ikonia> super-6-1_desk: it keeps asking you to reload ?
[01:02] <rainmakers999> does anyone know howto access windows shares that were created using the gnome desktop
[01:02] <super-6-1_desk> ikonia: yes
[01:02] <rmaj> slimjimflim: dhcp works fine.  ubuntu box even gets the IP from DHCP, but it doesnt set up default route
[01:02] <slimjimflim> rmaj, does the router have a public ip?
[01:02] <super-6-1_desk> lkonia: i think this the bug
[01:02] <ikonia> super-6-1_desk: follow MasterShreks's advice
[01:02] <tomboy64> hi guys
[01:02] <super-6-1_desk> ikonia: ok
[01:03] <ikonia> rmaj: so dhcp doesn't appear to be offering a default route ?
[01:03] <tomboy64> what's the standard-package-manager for ubuntu?
[01:03] <MasterShrek> apt
[01:03] <slimjimflim> how do you find out when a package was first installed?
[01:03] <ikonia> tomboy64: dpkg with apt / synaptic front ends
[01:03] <tomboy64> MasterShrek: is that gui?
[01:03] <rmaj> ikonia:  and DHCP works as Im getting IP address, only my ubuntu box doesnt have any routing set up for itself (route command) therefore it is probably softeware problem in ubuntu box
[01:03] <tomboy64> ahhh, synaptic!
[01:03] <MasterShrek> synaptic is gui tomboy64
[01:03] <ikonia> rmaj: no, your route should be offered via the dhcp server
[01:03] <MasterShrek> adept for kde
[01:03] <rmaj> ikonia: it is offering, other boxes are using it
[01:03] <tomboy64> great, thx :-D
[01:04] <kappakappuccino> all these names @_@
[01:04] <super-6-1_desk> !paste
[01:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:04] <ikonia> rmaj: ok so you get an ip address and the correct subnet mask, yes/no
[01:04] <rmaj> ikonia: all other boxes connected to it (debian) Just Work.  It looks like if "route" command on this ubuntu stoped working
[01:04] <rmaj> yes I do
[01:04] <ikonia> rmaj: what ?? don't make random guesses
[01:04] <ikonia> rmaj: ok, do you get dns servers ?
[01:04] <jamey-uk> I am trying to get the Live CD of 7.10 working on my Mac Mini. It's plugged into a 17" TFT TV but it's a bit funny with the resolution detection. I've tried setting the xorg.conf to 1024x768 but I can't seem to get anything to work. It justs displays a blue screen on screen 7... Any ideas?
[01:04] <Tuche_> noob question, i am downloading torrents, but i would like at the same time be on a low power comsumption profile, if i hibernate my ubuntu, will my torrents continue seeding ?
[01:05] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: here  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47635/
[01:05] <ikonia> Tuche_: no
[01:05] <Tuche_> hum
[01:05] <Odd-rationale> How would I add an aptoncd cd to the sources lists from a CLI? Do I need aptoncd installed in order to do this?
[01:05] <Dr_willis> Tuche_,  i very much doubt that.
[01:05] <rmaj> ikonia: yes, after "dhclient", the /etc/resolv.conf if (re)generated and contains correct IPs of DNS servers
[01:05] <JarG0n> Can anyone help with a DVD burning problem?  nautilus-cd-burner gets stuck in a 'calculating' state after dropping some folders for burning.  The process status is 'sleeping'.  Any idea why this is happening?
[01:05] <rmaj> *is
[01:05] <Tuche_> what would then be the best option ?
[01:05] <ikonia> rmaj: excellent, what ip address do you get ?
[01:05] <Tuche_> shut down monitor only ?
[01:05] <ikonia> rmaj: for your machien, I should say
[01:05] <rmaj> JarG0n: random guess: I would try to use k3b
[01:05] <Pelo> JarG0n, try gnomebaker instead
[01:05] <ikonia> Tuche_: press the power button the on the monitor
[01:05] <Dr_willis> Tuche_,  there really is no option.. seeding is accessing the hard drive and so forth..
[01:06] <rmaj> ikonia: correct IP address, 192.168.44.x where x is fro example 132  the same way it works for other boxes
[01:06] <Tuche_> Thanks Mates.
[01:06] <MasterShrek> patience super-6-1_desk my net connection is being really slow... =P
[01:06] <JarG0n> rmaj/Pelo> Thanks.  Is Nautilus that bad?
[01:06] <no0tic> JarG0n, accented characters in filenames?
[01:06] <ikonia> rmaj: ok, so what is your router address
[01:06] <slimjimflim> Tuche_ all network connections are off when you hibernate
[01:06] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: its ok i got 2 hours any ways
[01:06] <rmaj> JarG0n: I dont think so, but if it doesnt work then perhaps k3b will work for burning
[01:06] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: plus i got m laptop =P
[01:06] <Tuche_> understood :(
[01:06] <rmaj> ikonia: router is <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:06] <Pelo> JarG0n, not bad but I never managed it , I found gnomebaker much easier
[01:06] <askand> What is the command used for songswitching in the keyshortcuts settings?
[01:06] <MasterShrek> ah come on, stupid broadband, they have to be throttling me
[01:06] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: and psplinux
[01:06] <ikonia> rmaj: so as it stands can you make the ubuntu box ping the router
[01:06] <tehlam3> my update is buggered anyone got any suggestions
[01:06] <tehlam3> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47636/
[01:06] <MasterShrek> super-6-1_desk, psplinux?
[01:07] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: what your ISP?
[01:07] <rmaj> ikonia: suprsingly, no,
[01:07] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: a linux for the psp
[01:07] <K_Dallas> Good evening folks! Is there a PDF editor (I mean something like adobe acrobat not the reader) for Linux ? Thanks
[01:07] <ikonia> rmaj: ok, so that's where it is going to get interesting
[01:07] <rmaj> ikonia: ping <IP_ADDRESS>  says that  connect: Network is unreachable
[01:07] <MasterShrek> super-6-1_desk, do: gksu gedit /etc/apt/source.list       and comment out the cdrom line
[01:07] <ikonia> rmaj: may I offer a suggestion, you won't like ?
[01:07] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: something i worked on
[01:07] <ikonia> rmaj: or two even ?
[01:07] <rmaj> ikonia: reinstalling system, not really
[01:07] <MasterShrek> super-6-1_desk, my isp is charter, and i want linux on my psp
[01:07] <super-6-1_desk> comment out cd ok
[01:07] <ikonia> rmaj: not what I was going to say
[01:07] <MasterShrek> =P
[01:07] <no0tic> tehlam3, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:07] <rmaj> ikonia: its lame and I dont get diagnoz^House.m.d^H bug report
[01:07] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: is youra a hackable psp?
[01:07] <rmaj> ikonia: ok then
[01:08] <MasterShrek> super-6-1_desk, of course
[01:08] <bulmer> MasterShrek-> http://www.eff.org/wp/detecting-packet-injection an article about how isp injects spoofs in your link
[01:08] <Odd-rationale> How do I add a CD to the sources.list from a command line system?
[01:08] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: lol ok
[01:08] <ikonia> rmaj: first things first 1.) assign a static ip address on the network and try to ping the router, lets make sure it can actually get there 2.) plug/unplug the cable with 15 second intervals and see if the syslog reports link/negotiation established
[01:08] <rmaj> Odd-rationale: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list   perhaps
[01:08] <no0tic> Odd-rationale, apt-add cdrom
[01:08] <MasterShrek> thanks bulmer
[01:08] <ikonia> rmaj: it is possible your cable is dead and your using cached settings
[01:08] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: you may now who i am im Dark_alex
[01:08] <ikonia> rmaj: or something along those lines
[01:09] <rmaj> ikonia: plug unplug shows  reports about eth0 link up and down
[01:09] <MasterShrek> no way
[01:09] <no0tic> Odd-rationale, sorry, apt-cdrom add :P
[01:09] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: yea
[01:09] <ikonia> rmaj: do you follow wheree I am going
[01:09] <rmaj> ikonia: it is actually getting IP from router
[01:09] <narrowsoul> sorry to jump in and be annoying but i have a problem; when i start up my computer, the display flickers on and off until when i get to the splash screen it just goes black. all operations continue within, but i can only see what's going on if i turn off the monitor and turn it back on, and only for an instant then. suggestions?
[01:09] <rmaj> ikonia: yes, it is not a hardware problem 100%
[01:09] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: what CFW you have?
[01:09] <ikonia> rmaj: ok, so assign a static address/route and lets see if you can ping it
[01:09] <Odd-rationale> no0tic: Do I type that exactly?
[01:09] <ikonia> rmaj: (I assume icmp is enabled on the rotuer)
[01:09] <no0tic> Odd-rationale, sudo apt-cdrom add should work
[01:09] <MasterShrek> m33 3.72
[01:09] <rmaj> ikonia: one important symptop though: route command shows ZERO routes
[01:09] <tehlam3> no0tic: i have tried that already that gives me another error
[01:09] <JarG0n> Pelo> Gnomebaker appears to be working great!  Thanks!
[01:09] <no0tic> tehlam3, paste it
[01:09] <tehlam3> no0tic: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47637/
[01:10] <rmaj> ikonia: this looks incrorrect, I guess this is the proble
[01:10] <ikonia> rmaj: thats the symptom, not nessasary the cause
[01:10] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: its ok i find my 3.40 OE-A is the most stable almost never crashes
[01:10] <Pelo> JarG0n, I take no credt , I didn't make it
[01:10]  * rmaj tries static ip
[01:10] <Odd-rationale> no0tic: OK I'll try it. Thanks!
[01:10] <Wifi-Phreak> Can anyone tell me what driver/lib I need to burn mp3 cds?
[01:10] <no0tic> tehlam3, that's beyond my knowings, sorry
[01:10] <ikonia> rmaj: set the address high to make sure it doesn't conflict with a dhcp address
[01:10] <MasterShrek> i was running that for awhile super-6-1_desk
[01:10] <JarG0n> Pelo> I know.  You just gave me a working solution that clears off one of my drives.  Thank you for the idea.
[01:10] <askand> what is a good place to find wallpapers
[01:10] <askand> ?
[01:11] <super-6-1_desk> go back to it
[01:11] <Pelo> ;)
[01:11] <Odd-rationale> askand: gnome-look.org
[01:11] <DG19075> or art.gnome.org
[01:11] <volumenico> ls 1
[01:12] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: hay dude the source list is eympty
[01:12] <rmaj> wtf O________________o
[01:12] <ikonia> super-6-1_desk: I think we have a winner
[01:12] <rmaj> dude wtf?
[01:12] <Wifi-Phreak> Can anyone help me I'm having trouble burning cds
[01:12] <ikonia> rmaj: please don't use language like "wtf"
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> askand: they aren't linux related, but i really like this site for high quality wallpapers,   http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/index.php?sort=date
[01:12] <Pelo> rmaj,  language please
[01:12] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek:  lol i think your right
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> !wtf
[01:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:12] <rmaj> what the Ferry?
[01:12] <rmaj> anyway
[01:12] <ikonia> rmaj: do you want to expand on your problem futher
[01:12] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek:  let me find the reps
[01:12] <Pelo> Wifi-Phreak,  what kind of cd , data, iso or audio ?
[01:13] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek:  or do you have a list of them?
[01:13] <jeremyb_> rmaj: where can i catch the ferry?
[01:13] <rmaj> ikonia: omFineG, it works once I configured interaces file;  strange is, why it worked before?!
[01:13] <MasterShrek> !source-o-matic | super-6-1_desk
[01:13] <ubotu> super-6-1_desk: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:13] <MasterShrek> super-6-1_desk, i dont believe you are d_a
[01:13] <rmaj> jeremyb: in a borthe^H bottle
[01:13] <askand> IndyGunFreak:  nice
[01:13] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: sorry im typeing in a sentance the psp well not
[01:13] <MasterShrek> hes not from virginia
[01:13] <Wifi-Phreak> Pelo: yes
[01:13] <ikonia> rmaj: so you've assined a static address and it's working yes/no
[01:13] <super-6-1_desk> allow more then onr line
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> askand: ya, there's a BUNCH there, but  you can go through there and find some really good ones
[01:13] <rmaj> ikonia: I assigned dhcp, but placed it in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:13] <Pelo> Wifi-Phreak,  either or quesitons don'T require a yes/no answer
[01:13] <MasterShrek> super-6-1_desk, http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:13] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek:  its called tor
[01:13] <Pelo> Wifi-Phreak,  what kind of cd are you trying to burn ?
[01:13] <pirx> is this channel baby-rated?
[01:13] <ikonia> rmaj: was that not in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[01:14] <Wifi-Phreak> .mp3
[01:14] <rmaj> ikonia: no it wasn;t
[01:14] <ikonia> rmaj: what was ?
[01:14] <rmaj> ikonia: I thought doing by hand  "dhclient eth0"  was as good as putting "eth0 dhcp..."      BUAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[01:15] <rmaj> ikonia: seriously :)
[01:15] <Wifi-Phreak> Copying as mp3
[01:15] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: i really dont care of you beleave i am but hay im stil working on PSPLinux and it wont be out for a bit pubicly
[01:15] <rmaj> ikonia: people should, yes, but they dont
[01:15] <Wifi-Phreak> I want the disc to play in an in car cd player
[01:16] <MasterShrek> super-6-1_desk, and you are basing it off ubuntu?
[01:16] <rmaj> ikonia: I thought ubuntu aims to stop with the GNU/Nerdy approach "I spend 24/24 with my computer, so you should too - reading manuals"
[01:16] <ikonia> rmaj: it does
[01:16] <Pelo> Wifi-Phreak,  ok first you will need to install mp3 support,  if it isnt, done already and then you will use Serpentine from the sound/image menu in applications
[01:16] <reaxion> I wonder if anyone can help?  My Ubuntu Server has a process running every 20 minutes which places the text "-- MARK --" in my /var/log/messages
[01:16] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: well one version is and one is on YDL
[01:17] <ikonia> reaxion: that is a log check
[01:17] <rmaj> ikonia: in my case, a hint from "route" or "dhclient" that it can not assign route because device is not present, would be very helpfull
[01:17] <reaxion> ikonia, what process might be checking?
[01:17] <rmaj> reaxion: it's normal
[01:17] <Pelo> reaxion, check in crontab
[01:17] <reaxion> I did
[01:17] <ikonia> rml__: you can't account for every possible senario
[01:17] <reaxion> nothing every 20 mins
[01:17] <ikonia> reaxion: log watch I think
[01:17] <reaxion> could it be log rotator?
[01:17]  * rmaj slaps self for not finding this obvious sollution before
[01:18] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: fyi dont go down to any other fw  if so you well see un normal utilitys on your psp
[01:18] <reaxion> Just filling my log up with the MARK text
[01:18] <wers> is there any multisync user here? may you post a copy of your .multisync/1/localsettings file? :)
[01:18]  * Pelo slaps rmaj just for the hell of it
[01:18] <rmaj> reaxion: I thoink its normal.. why not?
[01:18] <MasterShrek> super-6-1_desk, what do you mean?
[01:18]  * rmaj slaps Pelo with vista cd
[01:18] <reaxion> I'd just prefer my log had meaningful messages, rather than that every 20 mins
[01:19] <ikonia> reaxion: then do something to generate traffic
[01:19]  * Pelo shows rmaj  his @  and tells him not to annoy him any further, he was told earlier to review all the basic stuff
[01:19] <rmaj> reaxion: if computer dies, you know it was alive at this time; also it compreses to nothing basicly by logrotate
[01:19] <Wifi-Phreak> Pelo: How d I install mp3 support?
[01:19] <Pelo> !mp3 | Wifi-Phreak
[01:19] <ubotu> Wifi-Phreak: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:19] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: well as i make new CFW i see that the newer updates hold new flashes. and the downgraders dont target these and dont see them so when you do go to a new CFW be sure you upgrade
[01:19] <rmaj> Pelo: I seen this lack of eth0 before, but I thought interfaces entry was needed only for automatic configuration
[01:19] <reaxion> rmaj: I understand it would, just find it a bit annoying.
[01:20] <ikonia> super-6-1_desk: can you take the psp discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[01:20] <rmaj> ikonia: thanks
[01:20] <ikonia> rmaj: welcome, next time, try a smidgen more manners a tad less critical and we'll get there faster, I promise
[01:20] <super-6-1_desk> ikonia: sorry my bad i didnt mean to get off-topic
[01:20] <ikonia> super-6-1_desk: no biggy
[01:20] <reaxion> Okay folks. Thanks.
[01:20] <wers> yooohooooo... any multisync user out here? :)
[01:20] <rmaj> I wonder can Ubuntu add own patches to add error messages and make them more user friendly?
[01:21] <ikonia> wers: just ask in clear english, drop the noise
[01:21] <unikon> ok thats weird i cant login to my photobucket page  i AM reg'd and i know i pw anyone else have issues with photobucket not accesible using firefox in linux
[01:21] <Pelo> wers,  be patient, and ask more specificaly periodicaly,  yooohooo won'T get you much
[01:21] <wers> ooops. sorry
[01:21] <MasterShrek> interesting super-6-1_desk, ill keep it in mind, but i dont really have any reason to downgrade my cfw, so i think ill be aight. btw did u get your sources thing working?
[01:21] <ikonia> rmaj: that would mean patching every gnu util for every possible error
[01:21] <ikonia> rmaj: better if you just understand the processes more
[01:21] <ice9_> original burner ? whats that I use k3b
[01:21] <rmaj> ikonia: sounds like fun;  and tech message simply makes learning easier
[01:21] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: im still getting the refreash thing again
[01:21] <ikonia> rmaj: too much effort to do and maintin
[01:22] <ikonia> maintain
[01:22] <rmaj> ikonia: what if I would
[01:22] <lego> any one know if it is possible to remove all panels in gnome ?
[01:22] <MasterShrek> hmm, getting any errors when you do: sudo apt-get update  ?
[01:22] <rmaj> then upstream could adapt this even
[01:22] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: ill look
[01:22] <ikonia> rmaj: you're going to maintain every gnu package with hints for every possible error
[01:22] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: the same things
[01:22] <rmaj> not every, but some to start with... and basic tools are rarerlly changed I guess
[01:23] <ikonia> rmaj: its not worth the effort, people who want to tinker, should know, others should use the tools (like network manager) provided by ubuntu
[01:23] <Zionad_> lego: Yes just right click on them, and remove them!
[01:23] <MasterShrek> super-6-1_desk, and you saved that file with the cdrom line commented out?
[01:23] <timothywcrane__> any good autoresponders that handle IMAP and follow ups for Ubuntu?
[01:23] <rmaj> ikonia: I even straced route to see if it is accessing any config file (it didn't)...
[01:24] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: there was nothing in there and i put the reps the auto reps gave me
[01:24] <ikonia> rmaj: over kill
[01:24] <lego> Zionad_: but the last one has the "delete this panel" label greyed out
[01:24] <MasterShrek> super-6-1_desk, they didnt give you a cdrom repo did it?
[01:24] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: no
[01:24] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: it was like it was a new file
[01:25] <MasterShrek> but sudo apt-get update is still giving you cdrom errors?
[01:25] <wers> is there any multisync user here? I need to see a /home/user/.multisync/1/localsettings file
[01:25] <Zionad_> lego: you can always run, killall gnome-panel
[01:25] <Pelo> timothywcrane__,  did hyou check in synaptic ? do a search for imap or autoresponder or other related keywords
[01:25] <jv_> nvidia fx 5500 does not giving me effects?
[01:25] <jv_> 256mb
[01:25] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: yes
[01:25] <Synx_hm> Trying to install ubuntu for the first time, i set it up on a software raid and had a seperate /boot swap etc... upon first reboot i get grub error 21
[01:25] <ikonia> jv_: have you enabled desktop effects ?
[01:25] <lego> Zionad_: true.. should have been able to come up with that myself :)
[01:25] <ikonia> Synx_hm: what type of software raid ?
[01:25] <Zionad_> lego: its ok, we are always here for help!
[01:25] <MasterShrek> that doesnt make any sense super-6-1_desk, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:25] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: ok
[01:25] <telexicon> How come the scripts in if-pre-up.d aren't executed when network interfaces are brought up?
[01:26] <super-6-1_desk> !paste
[01:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:26] <ikonia> telexicon: "pre-up"
[01:26] <Flannel> Synx_hm: You may need to put boot off the RAID.  Although I dont know for sure.  I know /boot can't be on LVM
[01:26] <Synx_hm> ikonia, i think kernal, i use the text installer to select the physical drive raid then configured software raid
[01:26] <jv_> using think so..using experimental geubuntu..after rebooting gives error..how in the comand line can I verify if beryl is enabled?
[01:26] <timothywcrane__> yes, but there is nothing in te repository. Prob have to go 3rd party. Autorespond is really limited and the others avail are simple vacation responders
[01:26] <lego> hmm.. the gnome-panel thingie restarts when killed... damn it is a sticky thing
[01:26] <Synx_hm> Flannel, i configured one drive so that it had 3 partitions one /boot one swap and one for the softraid, so the raid while technically is on both drives, its only on two partitions
[01:26] <telexicon> ikonia, ?
[01:26] <ikonia> Synx_hm: ok, thats a good start, Synx_hm it looks like grub has not installed to the correct disks. Try manually installing grub to your boot sectors of your primary drives
[01:26] <Zionad_> lego: one sec, i can fix that
[01:26] <ikonia> telexicon: they are executed before the interface is brought up
[01:27] <eyemean> hello, is xgl meant to use so much processing power?
[01:27] <Pelo> timothywcrane__, you can try an look here www.getdeb.net , no garranties , otherwise it's google
[01:27] <ikonia> eyemean: depends on your card/cpu
[01:27] <telexicon> ikonia, right
[01:27] <Synx_hm> ikonia, im back in the text install cd and it wont let me... mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot
[01:27] <telexicon> ikonia, thats fine.. thats what i meant
[01:27] <telexicon> ikonia, they arent executed at all
[01:27] <telexicon> ikonia, thats the problem
[01:27] <timothywcrane__> thanks, been googling all day
[01:27] <ikonia> telexicon: really ?
[01:27] <ikonia> telexicon: what type of card
[01:27] <ikonia> Synx_hm: what does it say
[01:27] <eyemean> ikonia, i got radeon 9550, 1.7 GHz cpu and 1Gig ram
[01:27] <super-6-1_desk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47643/ here MasterShrek
[01:27] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: lmao... i just want you to know i caught that.
[01:27] <ikonia> eyemean: ahhh ati, I've no idea
[01:27] <telexicon> ikonia, my network works.. its just I made an iptables-restore script..  but it doesnt restore
[01:27] <Pelo> timothywcrane__, doing a search in the forum might also yeild some results, www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:28] <jv_> ok, compiz is installed...
[01:28] <BSG75> I got to run at 9MB/s transfer almost on avg
[01:28] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: caught what ;)
[01:28] <Synx_hm> ikonia,  invalid argument, is there a full shell under the install cd?
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[01:28] <Pelo> BSG75, waht did you do ?
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: that was pretty subtle though..... but i doubt he got it.
[01:28] <ikonia> telexicon: thats not done in the pre-up scripts
[01:28] <jv_> do we have a compiz manager like in beryl?
[01:28] <BSG75> Pelo: I had a setting in my BIOS that said .. disable PCI 2.1 latency compliant
[01:28] <telexicon> ikonia, where is it done?
[01:28] <eyemean> ikonia, yeah tell me about if i knew ati would of been such a problem i would of got Nvidea, hahah
[01:28] <lego> Zionad_: i solved it, thank you.. (this was the needed command 'gnome-session-remove gnome-panel')
[01:28] <smultron> what does it mean when a monitor is "vista compatible"? i thought monitors were operating system independent like hard drives?
[01:28] <ikonia> telexicon: that should be done in an init script
[01:29] <MasterShrek> super-6-1_desk, that first line is supposed to be commented right? also you may have to pastebin the output from sudo apt-get update, this is really puzzling me
[01:29] <ikonia> eyemean: there are a few guys in here that know ati well
[01:29] <Zionad_> lego: Go to Prefrences -> Sessions then click on current session and remove gnome panel, then go to session options and click remeber currently running applications
[01:29] <ikonia> I'm not one
[01:29] <BSG75> and I moved to slot 3 pci on my motherboard
[01:29] <Zionad_> lego:" that will save it everytime
[01:29] <BSG75> I am not sure which one did it .. but I am not touching it .. just incase :)
[01:29] <lego> thank you very much
[01:29] <Pelo> BSG75, I donT, think I have that one,  but I'll check it out later , I think I have full speed and hi speed,  kind of ambiguous
[01:29] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: its the same as the last
[01:29] <telexicon> ikonia, how come ubuntu/debian doesnt come with an iptables script by default? It seems like a common thing to have
[01:29] <eyemean> calling all ati user knowledge buffs, hahaha
[01:29] <timothywcrane__> nothing on get deb or forums, but thank you
[01:29] <lbakalinsky> If I were to get an Emerex PC, could i buy a Nvida graphics to run compiz and emerald running. I really want to get my brother a computer
[01:29]  * IndyGunFreak fixed his ATI card by removing and buying an Nvidia card
[01:29] <ikonia> telexicon: its a custom thing to have, there is an init template you can hack to use your own
[01:29]  * nickrud thinks IndyGunFreak is a cheat
[01:29] <BSG75> LOL full speed and high speed .. I like those choices :)
[01:29] <Pelo> BSG75,  no pci slots for me , they are onboard
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[01:30] <MasterShrek> super-6-1_desk, it cant be, theres no reference to your cdrom in that file, theres no reason it shold be erroring on it
[01:30] <BSG75> I hope one of those options in the bios will do it for u
[01:30] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: i think its a bug
[01:30] <eyemean> i have a radeon 9550, but seems xgl is in high usage, can any1 help pls?
[01:30] <benzs_s> what's the success rate doing a distribution upgrade from feisty to gutsy?
[01:30] <rmaj> IndyGunFreak: isnt ATI linux friendly now
[01:30] <BSG75> I am getting 9-7 MB/s constant now
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: dual screens was just to freakin hard w/ ATI...
[01:30] <Qjimbo> Hi, can someone take a look at this: http://pastebin.com/d78bb2d06
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> rmaj: maybe now, i don't know, this was like a year or more agbo.
[01:30] <BSG75> much easier when u need to move 1TB data :)
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> ago.
[01:30] <ikonia> eyemean: shouldn't you use frxgl
[01:30] <Zionad_> ATI is a hellhole with linux.. heh
[01:30] <Zionad_> Thats why i went Nvidia
[01:30] <ikonia> rmaj: it won't be for a long time
[01:30] <nickrud> IndyGunFreak, heh, thanks for the warning. I'll put off buying that third one
[01:31] <lbakalinsky> anyone?
[01:31] <Pelo> BSG75, I'll hav eto look a bit more into it , I think I tried to change it while back and it didn't do much difference so I put it back the way it was, don'T remember what it is at now
[01:31] <Qjimbo> Zionad_: I'm struggling as it is with this VIA onboard stuff
[01:31] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: lol, so you got dual screens working w/ ATI?.. i tried for a couple months and gave up.
[01:31] <Zionad_> Qjimbo: Oh man i couldnt imagine, via isnt nice either hahah
[01:31] <eyemean> ikonia, i am as far as i know, but i think its listed as xgl in system monitor
[01:31] <IanLiu> How do I setup TeXMacs for Maxima?
[01:31] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: that was back in Dapper though, so almost 2yrs ago..., and ATI's driver i believe has came a long way since then
[01:31] <nickrud> IndyGunFreak, no, that was sarcastic wishful thinking. Right now I'm recompiling my kernel, see if I can get suspend with fglrx.
[01:31] <eyemean> ikonia, sorry i meant as far as i know thats wat im using
[01:31] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[01:31] <jv_> I have nv34 geforce fx 5500 256mb and need to troubleshoot compiz from the terminal...anobody?
[01:31] <Pelo> lbakalinsky, depends if there is a agp or pci slot available on the mobo
[01:31] <jv_> tia
[01:32] <ikonia> eyemean: I understand
[01:32] <BSG75> Pelo: good luck .. I am glad my nightmare is almost over .. my highness is sitting there on her laptop for me to finish so she can mount nfs
[01:32] <ikonia> jv_: what is your problem
[01:32] <eyemean> ikonia, lol, kool
[01:32] <flyinprogramer> http://xkcd.com/178/
[01:32] <nickrud> IndyGunFreak, I swore off kernel stuff several years ago, you can guess just how desperate I am
[01:32] <flyinprogramer> hilarious
[01:32] <flyinprogramer> http://xkcd.com/178/
[01:32] <flyinprogramer> http://xkcd.com/178/
[01:32] <Synx_hm> ikonia, actually ive got a shell in the root /dev/md0 now what do i need to do to reconfigure grub on /dev/sda1
[01:32] <flyinprogramer> http://xkcd.com/178/
[01:32] <flyinprogramer> http://xkcd.com/178/
[01:32] <flyinprogramer> http://xkcd.com/178/
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: lol,
[01:32] <Pelo> BSG75, :-)
[01:32] <ikonia> flyinprogramer: what are you doing ?
[01:32] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: : puzzeld?
[01:32] <Pelo> annoying everyone
[01:32] <Zionad_> someone should kick ban him
[01:32] <ikonia> !grub >Synx_hm
[01:32] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: so am i
[01:33] <MasterShrek> super-6-1_desk, it doesnt make any sense
[01:33] <jv_> ok, I try to start compiz with the only command that came to my littl ehead :
[01:33] <ikonia> Synx_hm: read the link from ubotu, you want to install grub onto the physical drives, not the meta device
[01:33] <jv_> compiz
[01:33] <jv_> Xgl not present
[01:33] <MasterShrek> super-6-1_desk, can you give me that output from sudo apt-get update  again, maybe i missed something
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> cant they ban him by IP?.. he does that stuff a lot.
[01:33] <ikonia> jake_: you don't need to type anything to start it
[01:33] <ikonia> jv_: just enabl "desktop effects" in gnome
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> most of the time its that tinyurl porn link though
[01:33] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: yea hold on
[01:33] <Zionad_> IndyGunFreak, Of course they can
[01:33] <jv_> can i copy and paste the compiz output here about 10 lines
[01:33] <Pelo> !theme | evo7
[01:33] <ubotu> evo7: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:34] <ikonia> jv_: no, and don't bother, just enable desktop effects in gnome
[01:34] <jv_> says 'desktop effects could not be enabled"
[01:34] <nickrud> jv_, no, and what kind of chip, ati?
[01:34] <ikonia> jv_: are you using the "nvidia" driver in xorg ?
[01:34] <]RandoM[> i'm about to upgrade from edgy eft to ubuntu studio.. should i do a backup of stuff in my home dir or will it save my settings / files / etc
[01:34] <jv_> I am thinking that is because i don't have xgl? dunno...
[01:34] <IndyGunFreak> !paste | jv_
[01:34] <ubotu> jv_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:34] <super-6-1_desk> here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47644/
[01:34] <ikonia> ]RandoM[: do a clean install
[01:35] <IanLiu> !maxima
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maxima - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <IanLiu> !emacs
[01:35] <ikonia> jv_: are you using the nvidia driver (restricted driver manager)
[01:35] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[01:35] <Synx_hm> ikonia, thanks ill give that a try
[01:35] <nickrud> jv_, that's a generic response to not having nvidia or another driver that has aiglx in it
[01:35] <Junkie`> Is there a special channel for intel mac support?
[01:35] <ikonia> Junkie`: no
[01:35] <MasterShrek> super-6-1_desk, try going to system > admin > software sources
[01:35] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: ok
[01:36] <]RandoM[> ikonia: ok thank
[01:36] <Junkie`> Okay
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak> Junkie`: intel mac?.. maybe #mac  i don't know
[01:36] <Junkie`> Well, it's support with an intel mac with ubuntu
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak> Junkie`: oh, you need help w/ Ubuntu, on an intel mac.
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak> nevermind... i was confused...
[01:36] <Junkie`> Ya :P
[01:36] <ikonia> Junkie`: ask your question
[01:36] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: thats the problem i think i can fix it from here
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak> whats the problem?
[01:37] <MasterShrek> good luck super-6-1_desk
[01:37] <Junkie`> Retardedly, I completely took mac os x off of my macbook and installed ubuntu
[01:37] <Junkie`> which worked fine
[01:37] <IndyGunFreak> Junkie`: lol
[01:37] <ikonia> Junkie`: nothing wrong with that
[01:37] <IndyGunFreak> i bet
[01:37] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: Im not leaveing just yet im chacking it before i go
[01:37] <Junkie`> until i need windows and installed it on a 25 gig partition
[01:37] <Junkie`> now i can't get into a livecd, or into linux
[01:37] <IndyGunFreak> and now grub is hosed.
[01:37] <Junkie`> which i need to do
[01:37] <Junkie`> exactly.
[01:37] <ikonia> Junkie`: there is a keypress to boot from cd
[01:37] <IndyGunFreak> why can't you get into a live CD?
[01:37] <ikonia> Junkie`: it's apple + b or something like that
[01:38] <Junkie`> because the macbook bios settings aren't configurable
[01:38] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok....
[01:38] <Junkie`> so when i go to press c nothing happends
[01:38] <ikonia> Junkie`: you need a key sequence to force cd boot
[01:38] <superpie> who are all these punks? o.0
[01:38] <Zionad_> Junkie: the key press is JUST the letter C
[01:38] <Junkie`> It was 'c' in mac os x to boot from teh cd
[01:38] <jv_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47646/plain/
[01:38] <nyce_> hello
[01:38] <jv_> this was the compiz command output
[01:39] <ikonia> jv_: why are you showing us that,
[01:39] <Junkie`> Zionad_: I know, but that doesn't do anything
[01:39] <ikonia> jv_: I've told you not to use the compiz command
[01:39] <ikonia> jv_: I've told you what you need to do
[01:39] <Junkie`> It just goes to the windows bootloader
[01:39] <Pelo> g'night folks
[01:39] <jv_> ah..sorry, didn't saw that
[01:39] <IndyGunFreak> l8r Pelo
[01:39] <nyce_> i am new to ubuntu can someone help me out
[01:39] <ikonia> jv_: you did see it as you responded
[01:39] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: it seems to be working know. and thanks o btw go to psp-hacks in the next month or 2 i think PSPLinux should be out
[01:39] <ikonia> nyce_: sure if you ask a question
[01:39] <Zionad_> nyce_ whats the problem?
[01:39] <nyce_> i have a lot of problem
[01:39] <nyce_> problems*
[01:39] <Zionad_> Well, Start with one!
[01:39] <MasterShrek> cool super-6-1_desk, i got that on my iGoogle, so ill know :)
[01:40] <nyce_> thanks
[01:40] <super-6-1_desk> MasterShrek: lol ok
[01:40] <nyce_> first problem i have is getting wine working
[01:40] <IndyGunFreak> Junkie`: no way to get into the bios?
[01:40] <nyce_> i dont understand what they want me to do
[01:40] <jv_> I have the restrcitive driver enabled
[01:40] <Junkie`> So, the first thought I had was to use vmware player to get into a live cd, dump the boot partition thing, using dd, then adding that line to teh boot.ini in windows, but that didn't work.
[01:40]  * nickrud shuts up, he came in late (again)
[01:40] <Junkie`> IndyGunFreak: nope
[01:40] <ikonia> nyce_: wine support in in #winehq
[01:40] <super-6-1_desk> nyce_: whats it asking?
[01:40] <super-6-1_desk> nvm
[01:40] <Zionad_> Ok, You have selected wine in the add remove?, and whats the problem?
[01:40] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[01:41] <IndyGunFreak> Junkie`: there has to be online instructions to boot a intel mac from CD drivee
[01:41] <nyce_> i had it installed at first but i couldnt get a program to work so i removed it and tried to install it again but its not working like before
[01:41] <hudyx> if I am dual-booting vista/Ubuntu, is there any way I can save my desktops' states in Ubuntu 7.10 when I shut down and go into Vista?
[01:41] <nyce_> i dont remember what i did
[01:41] <jv_> lsmod shows nvidia loaded
[01:41] <Junkie`> IndyGunFreak: Yes, you are supposed to press 'c', but that isn't working
[01:41] <nickrud> hudyx, hibernate
[01:41] <Synx_hm> ikonia, all of a sudden the live cd will not boot, hrm
[01:41] <ikonia> nyce_: wine support in in #winehq
[01:41] <robertj_> anyone know how to get sound working in java?
[01:41] <super-6-1_desk> !ask | nyce_
[01:41] <ubotu> nyce_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:41] <ikonia> Synx_hm: thats interesting
[01:41] <jv_> ikonia, i was only able to see when you asked if I had the restrictive driver enabled...:(
[01:42] <jv_> answer is yes
[01:42] <nyce_> i checked winehq
[01:42] <nyce_> nevermind
[01:42] <superpie> how do i find a bottleneck for an application that takes a long time to load?
[01:42] <nyce_> i understand
[01:42] <hudyx> nickrud: how do I boot Vista if I only hibernate Ubuntu? Don't I have to shut down/restart to get to the GRUB menu to boot Vista?
[01:42] <nyce_> sorry
[01:42] <super-6-1_desk> nyce_: whats the others
[01:42] <IndyGunFreak> Junkie`: and changing the boot ini tab didn't work?
[01:43] <jv_> hudyx: yes you do :)
[01:43] <nickrud> hudyx, if you hibernate, it does shut down. You can then reboot into windows, or linux later
[01:43] <super-6-1_desk> all right thanks everyone for the help
[01:43] <sainzeo> what are the commands that would be the same as going to System - Preferences - Appearance - Disable Compiz or Enable Compiz?
[01:43] <ikonia> sainzeo: use the gui
[01:43] <nickrud> hudyx, hibernate is not suspend
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> Junkie`: look at #16   http://www.ethicalhack.org/howto/triple_boot_howto.html
[01:43] <Zionad_> But hibernate saves the current condition, it doesnt run post, or allow you to see the grub bootloaser
[01:44] <sainzeo> ikonia: i would like to create a script to enable/disable compiz more quickly - do you know these commands?
[01:44] <Zionad_> it goes directly to the saved condition
[01:44] <ikonia> sainzeo: use the gui, it is not practicle to script
[01:44] <sainzeo> ikonia: sorry, but I would like to script this, are you saying then you don' tknow?
[01:44] <jv_> ikonia, plz tell me again what i need to do to ckeck compiz
[01:44] <ikonia> sainzeo: I'm saying it is possible but not practicle
[01:45] <hudyx> Zionad_: so there is no way to do what I want to do? save the Ubuntu state while I go into Vista?
[01:45] <jv_> beryl had a beryl manager command that would bring up the interface to control beryl
[01:45] <sainzeo> ikonia: okay fine, it's not practical, what are these commands anyways?
[01:45] <Zionad_> Hudyx, I do not think that is possible.
[01:45] <ikonia> sainzeo: its not "commands" you'll have to detect states and things like that
[01:45] <ikonia> sainzeo: its just just 2 commands
[01:45] <zlk> can someone tell me why i cant compile MPlayer with my ubuntu distro?  probably has something to do with libc?  when i ./configure i get "Error: Cannot find header either inttypes.h or bitypes.h.  There is no chance for compilation to succeed."
[01:45] <sainzeo> ikonia: isn't there like metacity --replace and compiz --replace?
[01:45] <majkball> hmm... On one of my harddrives it says root is owner,... so I can't create any folders or do naything on it... how do I add a user to the restrictions?
[01:46] <ikonia> sainzeo: that is just part of it
[01:46] <buddhaboy> piedoggie: are you still there?
[01:46] <ikonia> zlk: why are you compiling mplayer
[01:46] <zlk> because synaptic wont install it
[01:46] <ikonia> zlk: the error message is quite clear that it can't find the headers
[01:46] <sainzeo> ikonia: okay, what else would i need to do in order to successfully script it?
[01:46] <ikonia> sainzeo: I've just said, its not straight forward
[01:46] <sunogbaga> zlk: just sudo apt-get install mplayer
[01:46] <ikonia> sainzeo: its not practicle
[01:46] <buddhaboy> piedoggie: I installed 7.1 with eqmu, and still got the same issue: ubuntu stops at /etc/rc.local
[01:46] <zlk> sunogbaga: E: Broken packages
[01:46] <sainzeo> ikonia: you may not think its practical, and maybe it isn't, but i would like this knowledge, therefore, do you actually know the commands to run or not?
[01:47] <zlk> it says it relies on liartsc0, libfaac0, liblame0, etc.
[01:47] <zlk> and says "but is not installable"
[01:47] <ikonia> sainzeo: why are you not listening, its just just "commands"
[01:47] <buddhaboy> anyone knows why a fresh install will stop booting after /etc/rc.local [OK] ??
[01:47] <zlk> next to those packages
[01:47] <ikonia> zlk: you'll need to enable additional repo's
[01:47] <zlk> how do i go about doing that?
[01:47] <sainzeo> ikonia: i am listening, but there must be a way to script figuring out states and what not, like you had previously said
[01:47] <ikonia> sainzeo: www.compiz-fusion.org has all the docs
[01:47] <ikonia> sainzeo: had a read through them
[01:48] <sainzeo> ikonia: ok thank you
[01:48] <ikonia> zlk: system --> preferences --> software sources
[01:48] <sainzeo> zlk: its actually system --> administration --> software sources
[01:48] <zlk> im using ubuntu 7.04 feisty.  i dont seem to have that option in preferences
[01:48] <ikonia> sainzeo: thank you
[01:48] <ikonia> zlk: did you see that
[01:48] <zlk> ah ta
[01:48] <sainzeo> ikonia: you're welcome
[01:49] <jv_> what about gutsy? also uses compiz-fusion?
[01:49] <ikonia> jv_: gutsy comes with compiz-fusion already installed
[01:49] <jv_> I can't figure why compiz won't start....
[01:49] <buddhaboy> maybe I can get a lower version of ubuntu, where can I get 7.04?
[01:49] <nickrud> Zionad_, just did a hibernate, boot into windows, and then back into my hibernated desktop. Worked as expected
[01:49] <ikonia> buddhaboy: is there a reason you want 7.04 over 7.10 ?
[01:49] <sec_> where to find pidgin for 6.06?
[01:50] <ikonia> sec_: it doesn't exist
[01:50] <ikonia> sec_: 6.06 uses gaim
[01:50] <buddhaboy> ikonia: yes, i install a fresh boot, and the screen gets stuck on: /etc/rc.local [ok] wont' go further, unless i hit enter
[01:50] <jv_> what is the module name for compiz? compiz-fusion?
[01:50] <ivx> sec_ i'm sure you could build from sources but it isn't in repos
[01:50] <sec_> ikonia: yes, i had gaim on 6.06; want to try pidgin
[01:50] <ikonia> buddhaboy: press enter and check your rc.local file
[01:50] <sainzeo> sec_: you may be able to compile it yourself successfully though by downloading the source from www.pidgin.im
[01:50] <sunogbaga> jv_: just system-preferences-desktop-effects
[01:50] <ikonia> sec_: pidgin is not available
[01:51] <_ope_> i need help with vmware.  i only get a display if im running the vm in debug mode
[01:51] <buddhaboy> ikonia: I've been on the forum, I don't have any isues with my rc.local file
[01:51] <ikonia> sainzeo: I don't think it will run due to tls dependencies on 6.0.6
[01:51] <Zionad_> nickrud: i have never seen a hibernate do that.. ever....
[01:51] <ikonia> buddhaboy: what is in it ?
[01:51] <Aztec007> hello everyone
[01:51] <Zionad_> I mean, Its not supposed to
[01:51] <sec_> why ubuntu dislike pidgin?
[01:51] <Zionad_> its supposrd to save your session
[01:51] <ikonia> sec_: they don't
[01:51] <Aztec007> what do you guys recommend reiserfs or reiser4?
[01:51] <Zionad_> and boot into it!, thats why it uses hd space
[01:51] <ikonia> sec_: 6.0.6 was release long before pidgin existed
[01:51] <deniz_> quick question, how do i mount a .img file on my desktop?
[01:52] <ikonia> Aztec007: resiser FS is a debatable topic for long term support
[01:52] <sainzeo> sec_: i would try compiling it from source first - it may not work, but probably won't hurt to try
[01:52] <marupa> Does anyone know if there's a way to set up VNC to allow me to 'share' my current desktop on a custom port, and like tightvnc for windows, have one password be full-control, and one be view-only?
[01:52] <ikonia> Aztec007: resierfs because of that issue
[01:52] <_ope_> can anyone help?
[01:52] <sec_> ikonia: LTS means: not add new software?
[01:52] <buddhaboy> ikonia: it only has "exit 0"
[01:52] <nickrud> Zionad_, it does write to hd, thats the point. The image is there to go back to at any time.
[01:52] <ikonia> sec_: not official, but yes
[01:52] <_ope_> i also get this error when i try to full screen in vmware
[01:52] <_ope_> Unable to find an appropriate host video mode.
[01:52] <_ope_> Adding the guest mode to the 'display' subsection of the 'screen' section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config and restarting X is likely to help.
[01:52] <_ope_> Failed to switch to full screen SVGA mode.
[01:52] <buddhaboy> ikonia: its a fresh install
[01:52] <ikonia> buddhaboy: ok, so look at the last scripts that excute before that
[01:52] <eido> has anyone installed original enemy territory on ubuntu?
[01:52] <ikonia> buddhaboy:
[01:52] <deniz_> how do i mount a .img file??
[01:52] <Aztec007> ikonia: yeah, thats what I heard I just figured that it may be working now
[01:52] <jv_> sunogbaga: that's the thing..i have gnome with elive..I go to appearnce and then I turned desktop effects
[01:52] <Zionad_> nickrud: i see.... thanks for informing me of that! =]
[01:52] <marupa> deniz_, gmountiso
[01:52] <jv_> told me to reboot which I did
[01:53] <nickrud> Zionad_, the only thing that might be different is I do use a bios password, but don't think that should matter
[01:53] <deniz_> marupa, its not an iso
[01:53] <sec_> i don't want to install gcc, *-dev on my only machine desktop
[01:53] <marupa> deniz_, convert it?
[01:53] <jv_> now it says "desktops effects cannot be enabled"
[01:53] <buddhaboy> ikonia: ok fine. and I do a noshow, and remove quiet from boot to see message start ups, right?
[01:53] <eyemean> anyone find that firefox can sometimes be a hog on ubuntu 7.10?
[01:53] <ikonia> Aztec007: nope, not while the owner is being prosicuted for murder
[01:53] <eltux> I'm having some compiz problems again
[01:53] <deniz_> how or with wat?
[01:53] <buddhaboy> ikonia: where would I see in the logs? what log file?
[01:53] <nickrud> Zionad_, eh, I can be obtuse and assuming about knowledge, don't mind me
[01:53] <ikonia> buddhaboy: thats an excellent idea
[01:53] <meticulo> yeah
[01:53] <deniz_> marupa, how or with wat?
[01:53] <jv_> I have glx
[01:53] <ikonia> buddhaboy: remove the splash image from the boot options in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:53] <Synx_hm> ikonia, hrm i did something lol, now no grub at all, my mobo is trying to boot over the network now doh!
[01:53] <IanLiu> How do I set Maxima package for TeXMacs?
[01:53] <Zionad_> nickrud: hahah its fine
[01:53] <buddhaboy> ikonia: I already did the nosplash, and remove the quiet
[01:53] <sec_> so, anyone has that deb for pidgin?
[01:53] <marupa> deniz_, That I cannot remember, unfortunately.  I recall that I found the howto on google though.
[01:53] <jv_> 267.888
[01:53] <buddhaboy> ikonia: everything was "ok" before that
[01:53] <Aztec007> ikonia: who's the owner?
[01:53] <deniz_> any specific app?
[01:54] <deniz_> marupa, any specific app?
[01:54] <ikonia> sec_: I've told you "it doesn't exist"
[01:54] <buddhaboy> ikonia: its like everything just stops: so maybe there is a log file?
[01:54] <ikonia> buddhaboy: no boot log
[01:54] <marupa> deniz_, Nope.  Just look for 'img to iso convert ubuntu' or somesuch.
[01:54] <buddhaboy> ikonia: hmmm :$
[01:54] <deniz_> k, ill do so later
[01:54] <evo7> How to setup a start up? I mean some program will run automatically once I log in.
[01:54] <deniz_> thx
[01:54] <sunogbaga> jv_: probably haven't installed restricted drivers
[01:54] <nickrud> evo7, system->prefs->session
[01:54] <sec_> ikonia: i see, it's not in official.
[01:54] <eltux> compiz won't allow me to select extra or anything else it gives me the error: The composite extension is not available
[01:54] <buddhaboy> ikonia: nope nothing is in it
[01:54] <evo7> nickrud: Thank you.
[01:55] <sainzeo> sec_: did you get my PM?
[01:55] <buddhaboy> ikonia: /var/log/boot
[01:55] <jv_> sunogbaga: yes, they are enabled
[01:55] <ikonia> buddhaboy: you won't get anything out of that
[01:55] <]RandoM[> what do you people use to write data dvds?
[01:55] <sec_> sainzeo: let me check
[01:55] <jv_> nvidia and atheros
[01:55] <nickrud> Zionad_, I forgot I was running a kernel compile, if it's bad I'm blaming you ;)
[01:55] <jv_> for wifi
[01:55] <buddhaboy> ikonia: see there's this same error in the forums, they complain about going to the /etc/even.d and looking in there.. but everything is fine
[01:55] <Zionad_> nickrud: hahah, I will take any and all responsibility! hahaha
[01:56] <ikonia> buddhaboy: have you installed ANYTHING scince the default install
[01:56] <buddhaboy> ikonia: and this is a fresh install: both on vmware, and on qemu
[01:56] <buddhaboy> ikonia: nope, nothing
[01:56] <ikonia> oooh virtualisation
[01:56] <nickrud> ]RandoM[, I'be been using gnomebaker, I've also used k3b
[01:56] <ikonia> buddhaboy: hardware detection on some virtualisation can cause a hang
[01:56] <talcite> hey guys, I'm having trouble connecting to security.ubuntu.com
[01:56] <talcite> any ideas why this might be?
[01:56] <sec_> sainzeo: got my reply pm?
[01:56] <buddhaboy> ikonia: yep. i thought so, so i said ok, maybe vmware has an issue, but then i tried qemu
[01:56] <buddhaboy> ikonia: same thing..
[01:56] <glen> my computer just locked up and crashed so I had to restart, how can I check system logs to see what caused it?
[01:56] <ikonia> buddhaboy: still virtualisation
[01:57] <marupa> talcite, could be proxy, dns, or relay issue.
[01:57] <]RandoM[> nickrud: thanks i'll try that.. the dvd writer built into nautilus hasn't been working well for me.
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> !pm | sec_
[01:57] <IanLiu> Anyone knows how to configure a package for TeXMacs?
[01:57] <ubotu> sec_: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[01:57] <buddhaboy> ikonia: i'll try tomorrow with another machine I guess
[01:57] <ikonia> buddhaboy: you'll have to play with your vm settings
[01:57] <Junkie`> IndyGunFreak: i did as it said, but holding down c did nothing and it just went to the windows boot loader
[01:57] <talcite> marupa: well the other system on the same network has no problem connecting to it though 0.lo
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> Junkie`: i really don't know... sorry.
[01:57] <marupa> talcite, then probably dns or proxy.
[01:57] <nickrud> ]RandoM[, the only thing I don't like about it is not telling me how much space I've reserved
[01:57] <buddhaboy> ikonia: yea that will take forever, i'm just gonna do it on a real system I guess
[01:57] <jv_> damn...can't undertsand this stuff...
[01:57] <evo7> what is the best flash plugin for firefox?
[01:57] <ikonia> buddhaboy: ok
[01:57] <talcite> marupa: any idea how I'd be able to check which one it is?
[01:57] <sunogbaga> jv_: now I don't have ideas., others might be able to help
[01:57] <buddhaboy> ikonia: thank for the time though!
[01:57] <marupa> talcite from the one that works, ping it, and try connecting to the IP.
[01:57] <ikonia> evo7: there is only one, the adobe one, but the package is currently broke
[01:58] <talcite> marupa: does ubuntu server use dhcpcd?
[01:58] <ikonia> talcite: its up to you if it does
[01:58] <jv_> that's fine..tx
[01:58] <marupa> talcite, most probably.
[01:58] <ikonia> talcite: depends how you set it up
[01:58] <lulu> glen, System -> Administration -> System logs
[01:58] <talcite> ikonia: I see... hmm I can't remember what I selected for options =P
[01:58] <ikonia> talcite: then look
[01:58] <talcite> marupa: let me give it a shot, brb
[01:58] <evo7> ikonia: so how to download? how about gnash? I tried but it not performs the best. :(
[01:58] <glen> lulu: hmm on xubuntu guess I'll try gnome-system-log instead
[01:59] <ikonia> evo7: gnash is still in early development
[01:59] <Alp-> i installed ubuntu on one 10gb partition. now i created a second partition which has to contain my /home directory. how can i setup that without reinstalling ubuntu?
[01:59] <Junkie`> IndyGunFreak: I added it and when i select it i get an error saying it didn't have access to the harddisk
[01:59] <talcite> marupa: hmm it might be DNS... there's no response to pings
[01:59] <ikonia> Alp-: copy the data from /home to the partition then mount your new partition on /home
[01:59] <evo7> ikonia: so now I cant download any flash plugin for firefox?
[01:59] <lulu> glen, you can always check logs looking at files in /var/log
[01:59] <Junkie`> To the boot.ini, that is
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> Junkie`: i don't have the first idea.. sorry
[01:59] <ikonia> evo7: not at this exact second
[01:59] <Junkie`> no worries
[01:59] <Junkie`> thanks anyway
[02:00] <Synx_hm> ikonia, ive tried a number of things  doing the manual grub install, using /sbin/grub-install /dev/sda1 and none work, i have no mbr i think because it keeps going directly to network booting
[02:00] <CyberMad> !font
[02:00] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[02:00] <ikonia> Synx_hm: enter the grub shell and do it from that method
[02:00] <talcite> ikonia: dhcpcd isn't installed... =/ what else would I be using?
[02:00] <evo7> ikonia: ok thank you.
[02:00] <Synx_hm> ikonia, ill do that one more time because i think the dvd drive might be hd0
[02:00] <jv_> dhclient?
[02:00] <ikonia> talcite: thats a server, you'd be using dhclient
[02:00] <Alp-> ikonia: it's that easy? just adding a line to fstab?
[02:00] <nickrud> Alp-, add a line like /dev/hda8  /home ext3 defaults 0 1 to your /etc/fstab
[02:00] <ikonia> Alp-: it certainly is
[02:01] <ikonia> nickrud: gutsy uses uuid
[02:01] <Alp-> nickrud, ikonia: thanks alot
[02:01] <talcite> ikonia: ahh crap I remember what I did now... I'm using a static IP...
[02:01] <nickrud> ikonia, yes, but recognizes the other as well. I'm not affected by libata, keep forgetting that
[02:01] <ikonia> nickrud: it has to be /dev/sdX has hdX is retired
[02:02] <evo7> i download the flash plugin in website but it came with tar.gz format. how to install it?
[02:02] <talcite> ikonia: is there a way to configure resolv.conf without manually copying over the data then?
[02:02] <ikonia> evo7: don't
[02:02] <ikonia> evo7: wait for the ubuntu package to be fixed
[02:02] <ikonia> talcite: edit the file
[02:02] <d0lph1nK1ng> how do i roll back my nvidia driver?
[02:02] <nickrud> ikonia, works here, but I'm gonna stop mentioning it
[02:02] <ikonia> domas: roll back to what
[02:02] <ikonia> nickrud: really ?
[02:02] <d0lph1nK1ng> a previous version
[02:02] <Alp-> ikonia: but how can i delete my old home folder after mounting the new one?
[02:02] <ikonia> nickrud: do you have /dev/hdX on your gutsy install
[02:02] <evo7> ikonia: Ok. Thank you. :)
[02:02] <talcite> ikonia: yeah, I mean is there a way to automatically update resolv.conf?
[02:02] <sunogbaga> evo7: are you trying to install flashplayer for firefox?
[02:02] <ikonia> Alp-: copy the data over then delete it
[02:02] <ikonia> talcite: no, thats dhcp
[02:02] <talcite> ikonia: =/
[02:03] <nickrud> ikonia, yes (or at least as swap, I have that set on my i386 install)
[02:03] <caricc> Can anyone recommend a way to get wicd for wireless connection to work in Gusty?
[02:03] <eyemean> when restarting ubuntu, do u have to restart the pc, or can u just ctrl alt del then login again?
[02:03] <ikonia> nickrud: on gutsy
[02:03] <nickrud> ikonia, yes
[02:03] <ikonia> eyemean: that restarts the xserver
[02:03] <ikonia> nickrud: I need to investigate that as you shouldn't get it
[02:03] <nickrud> ikonia, now you make me wonder if my swap was working on that one :)
[02:03] <ikonia> nickrud: thats a good question
[02:04] <eyemean> ikonia, sorry im new to linux
[02:04] <eyemean> !xserver
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <ikonia> eyemean: thats fine, no need to apologise
[02:04] <kkathman> I have a printer attached to ubuntu and can print a test page just fine. On my samba network the windows computer sees the ubuntu box, but not the printer attached to it. In Administration- Printing I DO have it set to share and to not restrict any users.   I want to install flash plugin for firefox. :)
[02:06] <teknoprep> evo7 is pretty easy
[02:06] <Alp-> how can i get the uuid of my partition?
[02:06] <eyemean> ikonia, it does someties, like now for instance the cpu is working flat out, it didnt used to be like this
[02:06] <ikonia> Alp-: blkid
[02:06] <ikonia> eyemean: are you running froma  livecd or a hard disk insall
[02:06] <ikonia> install
[02:06] <eyemean> ikonia, hd
[02:06] <teknoprep> eyemean, what process is taking up that much cpu usage?
[02:06] <sunogbaga> evo7: just sudo-apt get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:06] <ikonia> eyemean: use top to see what is eating your cpu
[02:06] <ikonia> sunogbaga: the flash package is currently broke
[02:07] <teknoprep> eyemean, if you open up a console and type ' top ' into it
[02:07] <marupa> Can anyone point me to a howto to get tightvnc to work (or some method to share a current desktop session, not create a new one)
[02:07] <ikonia> eyemean: do not do that command yet
[02:07] <kkathman> Sigh, I figured that question might be above the help level here :(
[02:07] <Synx_hm> ikonia, nada, ive got the drives setup as follows... /dev/sda1 (boot) /dev/sda2 (swap) /dev/sda3 (software raid) /dev/sdb1 (software raid) /dev/md0 (raid 0 with sda3 and sdb1)
[02:07] <teknoprep> eyemean, it will show you what processes are using so much cpu time
[02:07] <ikonia> kkathman: as your question
[02:07] <ikonia> Synx_hm: raid 0 !
[02:07] <kkathman> ?
[02:07] <ikonia> Synx_hm: I thought you said raid 1
[02:07] <ikonia> kkathman: I didn't see your question
[02:07] <eyemean> ikonia, forefox at the moment, it hits 70 at times
[02:07] <evo7> sunogbaga: ok I try
[02:07] <kkathman> k
[02:07] <ikonia> evo7: don't
[02:08] <ikonia> evo7: the package is currently broke
[02:08] <teknoprep> eyemean, what cpu do you have?
[02:08] <sunogbaga> ow
[02:08] <Alp-> ikonia: that doesnt show me the new partition
[02:08] <Synx_hm> ikonia, i dont think so but i might have
[02:08] <ikonia> Synx_hm: I may have miss-read
[02:08] <eyemean> ikonia, athlon xp200+ - 1.7Ghz
[02:08] <ikonia> Synx_hm: is /boot on a raid partition
[02:08] <teknoprep> eyemean, that would probably be why
[02:08] <teknoprep> eyemean, i mean that cpu is getting older
[02:08] <burnninator>  can someone recommend some software like jinzora, but will play the music via the web browser ?
[02:08] <burnninator> kinda like pandora
[02:08] <teknoprep> eyemean, they don't have alot cache on them either
[02:08] <Synx_hm> ikonia, its own partition
[02:09] <ikonia> Alp-: man uuidgen
[02:09] <eyemean> teknoprep, but i didnt have this problem last week
[02:09] <sunogbaga> ikonia: what happens when u do?
[02:09] <ikonia> Synx_hm: ok, this is going to get complex,
[02:09] <teknoprep> eyemean, what did you change?
[02:09] <macandcheese> hi all
[02:09] <ikonia> Synx_hm: basiclly you'll need to update you initrd to include support for raid0
[02:09] <eyemean> teknoprep, nothing, lol
[02:09] <ikonia> sunogbaga: it installs the meta package, but not the actual plug
[02:09] <ikonia> plugin
[02:09] <Synx_hm> ikonia, i used the text based install to do the software raid setup
[02:09] <macandcheese> anyone know how to set up an asus eas1600 silent video card with ubuntu?
[02:09] <teknoprep> eyemean, thats impossible.. things don't change unless you tell them too
[02:09] <teknoprep> eyemean, unless you have a hardware problem
[02:10] <macandcheese> i can't get any driver to make it work
[02:10] <teknoprep> macandcheese, modules not drivers
[02:10] <inanna> eso te pasa por estar  enamorante a distancia en internet , no aprendes ,
[02:10] <eyemean> teknoprep, it look slike firefox is the problem, its use alot of cpu at times
[02:10] <teknoprep> eyemean, try purging it then reinstalling it... see if it does the same thing
[02:10] <teknoprep> eyemean, you can try this ' apt-get purge firefox '
[02:11] <ikonia> why ?
[02:11] <ikonia> why re-install something for no reason ?
[02:11] <teknoprep> why what
[02:11] <eyemean> teknoprep, im new to linux, but im sure i havent changed any settings
[02:11] <teknoprep> ikonia, well if he thinks its the problem why not
[02:11] <ikonia> because it's pointless
[02:11] <nickrud> ikonia, I just did a test here, and /dev/hda8  /media/i386-home ext3    defaults        0       2 works as expected
[02:11] <eyemean> teknoprep, is it best to save my favourites first?
[02:11] <Synx_hm> ikonia, the key problem is anyways that grub is not installing on the mbr at all...
[02:11] <ikonia> nickrud: I'll look into that, thank you
[02:11] <MasterShrek> eyemean, have you installed and extensions that may be causing firefox to do that?
[02:11] <teknoprep> eyemean, you should use google browser sync
[02:11] <ikonia> Synx_hm: thats easy to fix, the root file system problem is not
[02:12] <teknoprep> eyemean, but yes you would have to fix it
[02:12] <eyemean> mastershrek, i do have extensions installed on firefox, but havent installed any for ages
[02:12] <Synx_hm> ikonia, ive got two 400gb sata drives, one had 3 partitons on it, one boot one swap and one for the raid, the other drive is one partition all for the raid, i used the text alternate install cd to set it up and it seemed to work just fine, i assume it would have setup with kernel software raid (not fakeraid) support
[02:13] <ikonia> eyemean: you probably just have too much running, too many tabs, busy website with flash etc
[02:13] <teknoprep> eyemean, what exactly is the problem tho?
[02:13] <eyemean> teknoprep, what is google browser sync for?
[02:13] <ikonia> Synx_hm: yes, thats right
[02:13] <teknoprep> eyemean, it syncs your browser to your gmail account.. that way you never loose your bookmarks / whatever else firefox saves
[02:13] <ikonia> Synx_hm: did you not understand what I said about having raid 0 as your root file system
[02:13] <Synx_hm> ikonia, any ideas why grub wont install then, ive tried both manual and automatic modes
[02:13] <eyemean> teknoprep, high cpu usage of firefox, i cant watch tv properly on pc now without it screen slowing down from tv
[02:14] <ikonia> Synx_hm: your not using the correct grub options, or your motherboard is not booting off the right disk
[02:14] <teknoprep> eyemean, things don't just happen tho man.. you had to have done something
[02:14] <eyemean> teknoprep, that sounds cool , neverknew about that
[02:14] <eido> how do i change folder permission to all
[02:14] <Synx_hm> ikonia, ya i do, but my understanding of software raid and not fakeraid (bios software raid) was that kernel support was automatic
[02:14] <ikonia> Synx_hm: kernel support IS, initrd is NOT
[02:15] <eyemean> teknoprep, well i havent been brave enough to do anything new or weird incase i messed up ubuntu
[02:15] <Synx_hm> ikonia, ahh so the install cd will not set that up for you if you select software raid as the partition for /
[02:15] <ikonia> Synx_hm: I don't believe so
[02:15] <Synx_hm> ikonia, sorry this is all a bit new to me
[02:15] <goldfire> goldfire
[02:15] <Synx_hm> poop
[02:15] <ikonia> Synx_hm: thats fine, raid 1 = yes, raid 0 I don't know, nor do I think so
[02:15] <teknoprep> eyemean, i purposely skrew things up so i learn how to fix it
[02:15] <teknoprep> eyemean, took me awhile but i figured out why my laptop's hibernate doesn't work after i do an update with ubuntu
[02:16] <teknoprep> eyemean, and it was worth it to do this too
[02:16] <cizarr> what's the shortcut key for the terminal console?
[02:16] <kkathman> ok I figured it out
[02:16] <teknoprep> eyemean, simple things you skrew up... will help you in the future.. now i have a better grasp on how acpi is implemented into linux
[02:16] <MasterShrek> cizarr, ctrl+alt+f1-f6 ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to your gui
[02:16] <eyemean> teknoprep, i havent been on ubuntu for long so i wont risk it, plus i dont have time to do that at the moment
[02:17] <teknoprep> eyemean, you still have a large learning curve.. sure you can enjoy ubunut.. but you should still learn it
[02:17] <teknoprep> eyemean, linux has stupid amount of options
[02:17] <cizarr> thanks MasterShrek
[02:17] <eyemean> teknoprep, ur right though, its the only way to learn, but when i have more time, i got too much diy to do these days at  home, hahaha
[02:18] <Synx_hm> ikonia, well the bios is not finding any mbr at all so i at least need to fix grub first and then see what happenes from there
[02:18] <Synx_hm> ikonia, i did root (hd0,0) which should be /dev/sda1 and setup (hd0)
[02:18] <ikonia> Synx_hm: you know what happens, it was failing last time
[02:18] <ikonia> Synx_hm: it couldn't find the root file system
[02:18] <david_J> What application could I install that'll change html to text?
[02:18] <Synx_hm> ikonia, it didn't give me a boot menu at all, just error 21
[02:18] <teknoprep> david_J, notepad ?
[02:18] <Junkie`> ok...
[02:19] <]RandoM[> nickrud: gnomebaker worked like a charm for me.
[02:19] <ikonia> Synx_hm: that was before, you said it couldn't find root file system first time
[02:19] <Synx_hm> ikonia, i figured it was an actual mbr error
[02:19] <MasterShrek> Synx_hm, maybe try sd0,0
[02:19] <danc3> david_J: html *is* text
[02:19] <sunogbaga> david_J: any text editor would do that
[02:19] <ikonia> MasterShrek: please don't talk nonsense
[02:19] <nickrud> ]RandoM[, good to hear
[02:19] <david_J> danc3: no it aint...I mean without the html tags
[02:19] <Synx_hm> ikonia, never got that far
[02:19] <Synx_hm> MasterShrek, wilco
[02:19] <MasterShrek> ikonia, sorry, i didnt think of it as nonsense, im not using grub but i thought i remembered doing that once...
[02:19] <danc3> david_J: you could use awk/sed
[02:19] <david_J> I know there are tools out there that can do it
[02:19] <eyemean> teknoprep, where in gmail do i go to sync bookmarks pls?
[02:19] <ikonia> MasterShrek: you've never dont that, that option doesn't exist
[02:19] <david_J> forget it bye
[02:20] <ikonia> Synx_hm: that option doesn't exist
[02:20] <Synx_hm> i didn't think so hehe
[02:20] <MasterShrek> ok ikonia, my mistake
[02:20] <teknoprep> eyemean, just goto www.google.com and search for google browser sync
[02:20] <ikonia> MasterShrek: no problem
[02:20] <Synx_hm> ikonia, find /boot/grub/stage1 doesn't work btw
[02:20] <Synx_hm> ikonia, but i am able to see /boot and all thats on the /dev/sda1 partition
[02:20] <ikonia> Synx_hm: hang on, so your /boot partition is sd1 ? yes/no
[02:20] <Synx_hm> ikonia, yes
[02:20] <talcite> man this is ridiculous
[02:21] <teknoprep> talcite, what is?
[02:21] <ikonia> Synx_hm: ok, so your root option is (hd0,0) and your setup option is (hd0) is that what you are using ?
[02:21] <talcite> teknoprep: I got the DNS servers working and the NTP servers kicked in
[02:21] <Synx_hm> ikonia, yup
[02:21] <talcite> teknoprep: I'm now locked out of sudo
[02:21] <ezzieyguywuf> I'm trying to report a bug. when they ask you to add the output of uname -a, sudo lspci -wnn and sudo dmidecode, how do i get those in the form of a file instead of just in the terminal
[02:21] <ikonia> Synx_hm: and in your /boot/grub/device.map that is the correct mapping hd0 is sda ?
[02:21] <talcite> teknoprep: the time stamps are too far in the future, I can't kill sudo, I can't validate it either
[02:21] <Synx_hm> ikonia, let me check
[02:21] <danc3> Synx_hm: s/sda/hda
[02:21] <teknoprep> talcite, you have to update all of your files
[02:21] <ezzieyguywuf> when i type sudo dmidecode, for example, the output appears to be too large for the terminal and i don't even get all of it, just the end
[02:21] <jrib> ezzieyguywuf: COMMAND > /path/to/file
[02:22] <talcite> teknoprep: I tried logging out but it didn't work. I can't shutdown or reboot because I need to be root
[02:22] <teknoprep> talcite, i forget what it is brb
[02:22] <talcite> teknoprep: what do you mean?
[02:22] <ezzieyguywuf> jrib: thank you
[02:22] <talcite> teknoprep: sure
[02:22] <jrib> ezzieyguywuf: that will overwrite anything in /path/to/file if it already exists by the way
[02:22] <ChrisUFO> xlcfg -g or xlcfg -gtk
[02:22] <myusrnm> upon opening azures, it closes
[02:23] <ChrisUFO> myusrnm: I have the same problem actually!
[02:23] <Synx_hm> ikonia, ohh ... (hd0) is /dev/hdb (my dvd drive) doh and hd1 is the /dev/sda ill try that
[02:23] <ezzieyguywuf> jrib: do i specify a file type, ie .txt?
[02:23] <ikonia> Synx_hm: there you go
[02:23] <ikonia> so you want hd1,0
[02:23] <Nighthawk420> hey howcome bittorent, ktorrent, and bittornado all do a horrible job of dowloading my torrents, like uber s low, and i used to be able to dl them real fast on windows... is it something with my ports/
[02:23] <ikonia> and hd1 as a setup
[02:23] <Synx_hm> ikonia, however grub seems to be confused, because when i do root (hd0, <tab> it lists all the partitions on sda1
[02:23] <eyemean> after pruging firefox should i restart then install again?
[02:23] <sunogbaga> Nighthawk420: might be
[02:24] <myusrnm> i need help with my azureus problem, upon opening azureus it closes. Has anybody heard of this problem and know what the cause / solution might be
[02:24] <ikonia> Synx_hm: because sda1 is correct
[02:24] <myusrnm> ?
[02:24] <sunogbaga> Nighthawk420: under nat maybe...
[02:24] <ikonia> Synx_hm: but grub wants hd1,0 and hd1
[02:24] <Nighthawk420> should it be under nat or not on nat?
[02:24] <Synx_hm> ikonia, ya but im saying grub thinks sda1 is hd0 when it is infact hd1, no?
[02:24] <eyemean> <teknoprep, after pruging firefox should i restart then install again?
[02:24] <sunogbaga> Nighthawk420: if youre under nat, should probably try port forwarding
[02:24] <ikonia> Synx_hm: because the device map is overriding
[02:25] <evo7> I want to add gDesklet in start up but I do not know the application name to put. How to check it?
[02:25] <Nighthawk420> sunogbaga, cant i just as easily disable nat settings
[02:25] <Synx_hm> ikonia, so what do i need to edit?
[02:25] <evo7> I tried gDesklets but it didnt work.
[02:25] <ikonia> Synx_hm: I've told you, re-install grub to root hd1,0 and setup hd1
[02:25] <sunogbaga> evo7: system preferences sessions
[02:25] <Synx_hm> ikonia, because it wont install to hd1... setup (hd1) Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[02:26] <myusrnm> Nvm, apparently deleting .azureus seemed to work
[02:26] <ikonia> Synx_hm: exactly what commands are you using ?
[02:26] <evo7> sunogbaga: yes I know it. But we need to put the name of application inside. I do not know the name of it
[02:26] <Synx_hm> ikonia, root (hd1,0)... setup (hd1)
[02:26] <sunogbaga> put any name, just put the right command
[02:26] <ikonia> Synx_hm: in the grub shell ?
[02:26] <Synx_hm> ikonia, yes
[02:27] <evo7> sunogbaga: I do not the the command for gDesklets. I tried put gDesklet but dint work.
[02:27] <talcite> wow I discovered a bug in ubuntu... first time ever =D
[02:27] <ikonia> Synx_hm: something is very wrong here
[02:27] <Synx_hm> ikonia, also tried 'sudo /usr/sbin/grub-install /dev/sda1
[02:27] <Synx_hm> ikonia, i agree hehe
[02:28] <sunogbaga> haven't install gdesklet yet, try gdesklets .. no caps
[02:28] <ikonia> Synx_hm: I can only think your raid config has messed up your drive layouts
[02:28] <sunogbaga> evo7: try it on the terminal first
[02:28] <evo7> sunogbaga: ok. I try.
[02:29] <Synx_hm> ikonia, heres what fdisk -l has to say... /dev/sda1 bootable (/boot)  /dev/sda2 swap  /dev/sda3 Linux raid autodetect  /dev/sdb1 Linux raid autodetect
[02:29] <evo7> sunogbaga: yes. it's working.
[02:29] <evo7> sunogbaga: Thank you man.
[02:29] <teknoprep> i guess the timestamp is to far into the future
[02:29] <Evilx> does the live cd have the RT8187 drivers on it?
[02:29] <ikonia> Synx_hm: I'm afraid its bed time for me
[02:29] <ikonia> Synx_hm: but that all looks normal
[02:30] <talcite> ahh thank goodness for tty...
[02:30] <talcite> I'd be boned without it
[02:30] <Synx_hm> ikonia, cool thanks for your help though :) ill figure this ish out hehe
[02:30] <talcite> atleast for an hour anyways
[02:30] <sunogbaga> evo7: no problem
[02:30] <ikonia> Synx_hm: you may want to correct your device.map to make things easier
[02:30] <Synx_hm> ikonia, will do thanks
[02:30] <ikonia> Synx_hm: ahhhh
[02:30] <ikonia> Synx_hm: its just hit me
[02:30] <ikonia> Synx_hm: got it
[02:30] <ikonia> sorry, I was being slow
[02:30] <Synx_hm> huh?
[02:30] <ikonia> Synx_hm: your doing this from the livecd yes/no
[02:31] <Synx_hm> yes
[02:31] <daks> !device.map
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about device.map - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <ikonia> Synx_hm: ok, stop me if I confuse you
[02:31] <teknoprep> hey talcite
[02:31] <teknoprep> talcite, you still there
[02:31] <ikonia> Synx_hm: the livecd has "probed" your disk, so /dev/sda IS hd0 on the livecd, which is why you can't install to hd1
[02:31] <teknoprep> talcite, do this... ' sudo -k ; sudo -K '
[02:31] <daks> ikonia: what is device.map?
[02:31] <ikonia> Synx_hm: follow so far
[02:31] <ikonia> daks: I'll get back to you
[02:31] <Synx_hm> ikonia, ikonia ya
[02:32] <lovedeatm> can anybody help me wit an ipod issue..or am in the wrong place
[02:32] <talcite> teknoprep: yup, I'm here
[02:32] <ikonia> Synx_hm: however when you boot from your hard disk the device.map is probed to get the disk layout which says sda = hd1 not hd0, so menu.lst can't be found so grub won't init
[02:32] <talcite> teknoprep: believe it or not, it was a bug in ubuntu 0.o
[02:32] <ikonia> Synx_hm: make sense ?
[02:32] <teknoprep> talcite, did you fix it?
[02:32] <Synx_hm> ikonia, ya
[02:32] <talcite> teknoprep: I had to log into tty2 and delete the sudo file for tty1
[02:32] <_patbam> hi, is it normal for apt-get to ask me to put in my gutsy cd when i try to install things?
[02:32] <talcite> teknoprep: yup =D
[02:32] <Synx_hm> ikonia, i figured something like that was happening
[02:32] <ikonia> Synx_hm: fix your device.map on your disk, and re-install grub onto hd0 on the livecd and you'll be fine
[02:32] <talcite> teknoprep: thanks =D
[02:33] <ikonia> Synx_hm: sorry, took me a moment for that to click
[02:33] <talcite> hey guys, how do you perform a dist-upgrade on ubuntu server?
[02:33] <Synx_hm> ikonia, ok ill do that, thanks!
[02:33] <ikonia> _patbam: remove the cd source line from /etc/sources.list
[02:33] <talcite> I'm still running feisty
[02:33] <ikonia> _patbam: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:33] <ikonia> Synx_hm: sorry, I was missing the ovious
[02:33] <ikonia> obvious
[02:33] <ikonia> daks: device.map is a grub file used to map physical disks to grub device identifiers
[02:33] <_patbam> ikonia: thanks.
[02:34] <lovedeatm> how do you enable repos via konsole
[02:34] <marupa> I really need this to work, guys...I'm trying to share my ubuntu desktop with other users, but use a custom port.  Is there any way to do that?
[02:34] <ikonia> lovedeatm: uncomment them in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:34] <teknoprep> lovedeatm, konsole is kde
[02:34] <Synx_hm> ikonia, one quick question seems i cannot force write to tha file (w!)
[02:34] <sexcopter> hi, can anyone recommend me software to author dvd videos?
[02:34] <teknoprep> lovedeatm, are you using kubuntu ?
[02:34] <marupa> sexcopter, kino
[02:34] <ikonia> Synx_hm: mount -o remount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot
[02:34] <Synx_hm> thanks
[02:34] <ikonia> Synx_hm: remount read/write
[02:34] <patbam> ikonia: don't ih ave to do an apt-get update or some such after editing that file?
[02:34] <teknoprep> lovedeatm, but you want to doit from the console... sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:34] <ikonia> patbam: you do
[02:35] <sexcopter> marupa: thanks
[02:35] <ikonia> Synx_hm: bed time now
[02:35] <marupa> sexcopter, welcome.
[02:35] <Synx_hm> ikonia, thanks again
[02:35] <ikonia> Synx_hm: hope everything works out
[02:35] <lovedeatm> thanks and yeah i am using kubuntu
[02:36] <patbam> ikonia:  thanks again :)
[02:36] <lovedeatm> but it was a general question and thanks
[02:36] <teknoprep> kde sucks
[02:37] <julio3patas> teknoprep: long live kde beats gnome :)
[02:37] <SirBob1701> are there any fixes to the crash with latest nvidia drivers and video playback (ex sometimes when i open movies they are just green blobs and don't render until i restart computer)
[02:37] <ezzieyguywuf> how do you make a tarball of a directory in the terminal window?
[02:37] <grazz> where can i find the list ( and code ) of the ubuntu patches for the kernel?
[02:37] <teknoprep> julio3patas, you crazy? kde is horible
[02:37] <marupa> ezzieyguywuf, tar -cf somefile.tar thedirectory/
[02:37] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf, tar cf <file>.tar /dir
[02:37] <patbam> kde vs gnome fistfight behind the cafeteria!
[02:37] <ezzieyguywuf> thanks guys
[02:38] <julio3patas> teknoprep: must        be the rum&cokes i had tonight
[02:38] <teknoprep> julio3patas, vodka cranberry here
[02:38] <teknoprep> julio3patas, but you are still nuts
[02:38] <teknoprep> julio3patas, kde is more bloated then windows
[02:38] <nickrud> the gnomes will break the trolls knees
[02:38] <julio3patas> teknoprep: my   ex'es will agree with you
[02:38] <DG19075> GNOME Rules!
[02:38] <SirBob1701> julio3patas: sissy gotta go with the straight up irish whiskey :)
[02:39] <teknoprep> SirBob1701, nothing wrong with mixed drinks
[02:39] <SirBob1701> teknoprep: sure if your a chick haha
[02:39] <teknoprep> cairo_dock + gnome = beautiful
[02:39] <julio3patas> SirBob1701: had a chance to go thru ireland and picked up some private reserve jameson, boy that is good stuff
[02:39] <teknoprep> SirBob1701, now you attack my manhood because i like a mixed drink?
[02:40] <SirBob1701> julio3patas: aw i can only imagine
[02:40] <SirBob1701> teknoprep: sure why not :)
[02:40] <grazz> where can i find the list ( and code ) of the ubuntu patches for the kernel?
[02:40] <teknoprep> SirBob1701, i must be ghey... i am going to go in the corner and cry.. someone on irc insulted my man-hood
[02:40] <grazz> ( sorry for the re-paste )
[02:40] <IdleOne> !offtopic | SirBob1701 teknoprep
[02:40] <ubotu> SirBob1701 teknoprep: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:40] <teknoprep> IdleOne, does it really matter?
[02:41] <evo7> i download cpu meter for gdesklets .. how to install it? .. i tried in /usr/share/gdesklets/display but i din work.
[02:41] <IdleOne> teknoprep: yes
[02:41] <SirBob1701> teknoprep: np manhood means nothing
[02:41] <teknoprep> agreed
[02:41] <heatmzzr> is there a way in ubuntu to leave the graphics and go to command line, not as shell?
[02:41] <marupa> Anyone know how to customize what port ubuntu's remote desktop listens on?
[02:41] <preaction_> heatmzzr, Ctrl+Alt+F1
[02:41] <nickrud> heatmzzr, ctl-alt-f1 ?
[02:41] <heatmzzr> thanks folks
[02:42] <SpookyET> Is there a Thunderbird to Evolution converter?
[02:42] <nadine> hello. i've been using various versions of ubuntu for about two years now, but still can't get samba working consistently for the life of me. it seems to work for about a day every two months, but then its back to not being able to connect (btwn two ubuntu systems; i use samba cuz sometimes there's a winpc on the network). anyone have any pointers?
[02:42] <talcite> hmm... does anyone know if systems with non-matching times would affect SSH logins with RSA keys?
[02:42] <teknoprep> SpookyET, converter of what
[02:42] <SpookyET> account
[02:43] <SpookyET> I don't feel like redownloading everything via GMAIL's slow IMAP
[02:43] <teknoprep> SpookyET, for email or your contacts?
[02:43] <teknoprep> SpookyET, its not that slow
[02:43] <SpookyET> no contacts. email
[02:43] <Iggz> I'm finding 7.10 very buggy on my rig - I am aware that there have been issues for some and it appears that I am one of them. However, I do like the OS and want to stay with it. While waiting on hardy I'd like to stay with ubuntu. So, which version would you suggst - 7.4 or 6.10?
[02:43] <evo7> i download cpu meter for gdesklets .. how to install it? .. i tried in /usr/share/gdesklets/display but i din work.
[02:43] <teknoprep> SpookyET, also imap only caches on your localhost... your going to have to get your emails downloaded again no matter what
[02:44] <IdleOne> Iggz: try 6.10 if it works well then !upgrade to 7.04
[02:44] <yan_> how do i find the size of each installed program?
[02:44] <SpookyET> teknoprep: not if you make it sync and download everything.
[02:44] <yan_> my /root folder is being used up
[02:44] <SirBob1701> anyone know status on new nvidia drivers?
[02:45] <engla_> yan_: in synaptic you can see sizes of installed programs
[02:45] <Iggz> IdelOne: Thank you sounds a good idea. Can you do a download upgrade by the way otr is it a fresh installll everytime?
[02:45] <teknoprep> SirBob1701, why do you want new drivers?
[02:45] <engla_> yan_: however, there are no installed programs in /root
[02:45] <yan_> I mean in the root partition
[02:45] <SirBob1701> teknoprep: the current ones crash on video files sometimes and require a restart to play correctly.
[02:46] <engla_> well open synaptic, go to settings and make sure the column for installed size is enabled, then go to installed packages, and sort by installed size
[02:46] <engla_> that's the recipe :)
[02:46] <teknoprep> SirBob1701, you sure thats nv drivers and not just your divx / decoder ?
[02:46] <SirBob1701> teknoprep: reinstalled them several times already to see if it was them
[02:46] <talcite> hey guys, where's the NTP server file kept?
[02:47] <teknoprep> talcite, what NTP server  file? the conf file ?
[02:47] <yan_> engla_, thanks. How do you deframent a disk?
[02:47] <teknoprep> talcite, do this ' sudo updatedb '
[02:47] <teknoprep> talcite, after that finishs do this ' sudo locate ntp | grep conf
[02:48] <engla_> yan_: should normally not be needed; I don't know
[02:48] <talcite> teknoprep: thanks
[02:48] <julio3patas> i updated to the new hardy systems seems to be running just fine tho
[02:48] <SteveScum> is there a way i can view/edit upnp devices on my network,  like my router?
[02:48]  * nickrud boggles at hardy now
[02:49] <IdleOne> nickrud: that good or bad?
[02:49] <teknoprep> SteveScum, there are programs that use upnp to open ports on routers but the best way to update your router configs is best through the web configuration
[02:49] <nickrud> IdleOne, I grew up in linux running debian unstable, but ubuntu betas more than a month or so before release? I like to get things done :)
[02:50] <teknoprep> SteveScum, most torrent programs have a upnp plugin tha tworks with upnp enabled routers
[02:50] <SteveScum> yeah, its not for my router, and the only way i can access it for the first time is upnp, but i dont know a program to access upnp
[02:51] <SteveScum> its another device i mean
[02:51] <teknoprep> what is it?
[02:51] <teknoprep> sounds like a shitty device
[02:51] <ohioguy> hi , I'm on dial up , can some one tell me how to deal with ubuntu updates ? ( 88 mb one week , 82 mb the next week )
[02:51] <teknoprep> ohioguy, don't update
[02:52] <heatmzzr> in ubuntu can you login as root?
[02:52] <FluxD> heatmzzr: no
[02:52] <teknoprep> ohioguy, enable your firewall... and don't allow anything to directly access you computer unless you request it.. then ... don';t update
[02:52] <F0o> ohioguy go to starbucks and download them
[02:52] <MiLK> hi guys. i'm trying to install ubuntu onto a partition that I have already created under windows. i have chosen the 'manual' option, and when i select my partition and click forward it says 'no root file system specified'. what am i doing wrong?
[02:53] <MasterShrek> MiLK, make the mount point /
[02:53] <MasterShrek> MiLK, also youll prolly want a swap partition
[02:53] <nickrud> ohioguy, I have a couple of one liners I used to use, no error checking but they work, I'll put them on a pastebin
[02:53] <ohioguy> hmmm ,, starrbucks is about 50 miles away ,,, and I don't drink coffee ,,, lol
[02:53] <SteveScum> network print router, for some reason i cant access it, and in the manual it says another way to access its setup is through upnp, but i dont know of a way of doing it on ubuntu
[02:53] <MiLK> ok thx MasterShrek - how do I add a swap partition?
[02:54] <Elizabeth> hello, has anyone had a problem with 64-bit OS livecds like ubuntu and leopard kernel panicking
[02:54] <makuseru> are there any other audio recording/editing programs that are free, besides audacity?
[02:54] <MiLK> do i do it via 'edit partition'?
[02:54] <MasterShrek> MiLK, generally you want to make the swap partition of size equal to the amount of ram you have, although i cannot exactly tell you how to do it (since i dont have the installer right in front of me) it shold be pretty straight forward
[02:54] <Elizabeth> i have a ecs board with intel core 2 duo i think 1.86Ghz
[02:54] <F0o> ohioguy 50 miles closer waiting, hmm i think the later advice was better dont update
[02:54] <MiLK> ok thx
[02:55] <k1dugar> hello everyone
[02:55] <modoc> Is there a utility for watching a directory for changes (add/remove files, etc)?
[02:55] <nickrud> ohioguy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47649/ , I'd run these overnight, the first if I wasn't already on line, the second if I was
[02:55] <ohioguy> but I don't like the idae of not getting security updates ,
[02:55] <MiLK> what format should the swap partition be MasterShrek?
[02:55] <HoboBen> Anyone else got a regularly-broken back button in swiftfox 3.0b2pre?
[02:55] <k1dugar> can someone help me out with "seahorse-agent"
[02:55] <MasterShrek> MiLK, it shold be swap or maybe its called linux-swap
[02:55] <modoc> MiLK: the type/format is swap
[02:56] <MiLK> ah, im hguessing 'swap' lol
[02:56] <MiLK> yes
[02:56] <jrib> modoc: look into gamin, inotify
[02:56] <jaypro> im having difficulty installing  libdvdcss2 & w32codecs
[02:56] <bbardlbradd> Hey, I'm partitioning for 7.10, should this be logical or primary? Also, the mount point should be just "/" (without quotation) right?
[02:56] <MiLK> my bad :P
[02:56] <jaypro> anyone know what to do?
[02:56] <MasterShrek> !medibuntu | jaypro
[02:56] <ubotu> jaypro: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[02:56] <modoc> jrib: will do, thanks
[02:56] <nickrud> ohioguy, you can drop the y from the -dy options if you don't want to manually do the actual upgrade install
[02:56] <nickrud> ohioguy, I mean do want to
[02:56] <bbardlbradd> I'm setting it up to Dual boot Vista/7.10
[02:56] <MasterShrek> bbardlbradd, primary
[02:56] <jaypro> that was quick... thanks for the link MasterShrek
[02:57] <MasterShrek> bbardlbradd, coorect, just a / no quotes