[06:46] <ardchoille> edawg26: If you tick the radio button next to VLC, it should do that
[06:46] <edawg26> yeah, thanks a lot!
[06:46] <dabaR> sean13: probably not, I just read through the options.
[06:46] <edawg26> I feel like an idiot, ^^.
[06:47] <ardchoille> lol
[06:47] <Frogzoo> rpc: check for badness in /var/log/messages.3.gz
[06:47] <cafuego_> rpc: looks like a normal hdparm output.
[06:47] <Frogzoo> rpc: check for badness in /var/log/messages
[06:47] <amar> kitche: can u give me the exact code to kill all appns or processes
[06:47] <rpc> cafuego hmm
[06:47] <sean13> dabaR, I don't suppose you can help me with another problem? when I put in a dvd disk containing mp3 albums Ubuntu wont let me browse it.  When I click it I get took straight to the cd/dvd burning program that comes with Ubuntu
[06:47] <ChaosEddie> ummm actually i cant
[06:47] <rpc> Frogzoo ok will try
[06:47] <ChaosEddie> i think it's sudo kill-all
[06:47] <ChaosEddie> but not sure
[06:47] <cafuego_> rpc: What filesystem type does it contain?
[06:47] <ChaosEddie> anyone know?
[06:48] <noodles12> i installed kubuntu w/ no user and i can't add another one. it says " An error occured durign your last kde upgrade leaving an orphaned control module" ( in system>administration>user & groups
[06:48] <amar> can anyone give me the code to kill all appns or processes
[06:48] <cables> ChaosEddie, remove the hyphen and you've got it, I think... I just rejoined the channel, so I don't know exactly what you're trying to do.
[06:48] <kitche> amar: can only kill one process at a time unless you kill the users login
[06:48] <cables> amar, ALL apps and processes?
[06:48] <cafuego_> kitche: not quite
[06:48] <hitmanWilly> try kill -l
[06:48] <hitmanWilly> that should list everything running
[06:48] <amar> yup...
[06:48] <rpc> cafuego ext3 in there
[06:48] <amar> k...... i will try
[06:48] <dabaR> sean13: the dvd is empty, it seems, double check it elsewhere
[06:48] <hitmanWilly> you can kill em one by one then
[06:48] <rpc> Frogzoo i see no badness in message
[06:48] <edawg26> Hey wait, I lied. I can't seem to select 'VLC'. I click on the box and it doesn't select
[06:48] <Frogzoo> rpc: what's your cpu ?
[06:48] <ChaosEddie> cables:  amar needs help w/ being told to close his package managers
[06:49] <ChaosEddie> he's being told that multiple ones are open
[06:49] <rpc> Frogzoo that box got X2 4600+
[06:49] <ChaosEddie> when they are not
[06:49] <ChaosEddie> reboot wont work
[06:49] <kitche> cafuego_: really how can you kill all processes? and stay login just wondering since I don't know how to do that but then again I m more of a cli
[06:49] <cables> ChaosEddie, okay.
[06:49] <rbil> amar: why would you want to kill all processes? you may as well just shutdown the machine :-)
[06:49] <cables> amar, could you just reboot the computer?
[06:49] <edawg26> anyone a Nautilus expert that can help me? When I click on 'add' and choose a program it says 'Could nod add application to the application database' So maybe mine is bugged?
[06:49] <amar> i have already done dat....... but still the pro exists
[06:49] <cafuego_> kitche: [disclaimer]  as root: kill -9 -1 [/disclaimer]
[06:49] <cables> amar, are you using sudo?
[06:49] <cafuego_> kitche: that stops everything really quickly
[06:49] <rpc> cafuego, Frogzoo: could it be some hell in the kernel? a missing driver for via chipset or whatever like that?
[06:49] <edawg26> amar: did you bust out your 9 on it?
[06:49] <Frogzoo> rpc: if you run 'vmstat 5' & leave it a 20 secs - do you see '0' in the 'b' column or larger numbers ?
[06:49] <amar> cables: for wat??
[06:50] <rbil> amar: what process are you trying to kill?
[06:50] <rpc> Frogzoo oh let me try, sounds interesting
[06:50] <cafuego_> rpc: Have a look though `dmesg' to see if there is anything odd
[06:50] <amar> guys i'm newbie to the world of linux.......
[06:50] <sean13> dabaR, the DVD is definitely not empty, i've checked it on a windows machine
[06:50] <cables> amar, if it's a commandline manager you're trying to use, you need sudo.
[06:50] <Frogzoo> !docs | amar
[06:50] <ubotu> amar: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[06:50] <edawg26> amar: What command do you use to kill the process?
[06:50] <cables> amar, did it ask for your password when you went to the package manager?
[06:50] <hitmanWilly> amar: try killall
[06:50] <amar> no
[06:50] <rpc> Frogzoo 0-0-0-1-0-0
[06:50] <cables> amar, if you're trying to use synaptic, do alt-f2 then "gksudo synaptic" and see if that works
[06:50] <ChaosEddie> amar: superuser kill all. you need to tell the computer who's boss xD
[06:51] <amar> whenever i try to open its showing dat some other package is running
[06:51] <rpc> Frogzoo and even more 0s now...
[06:51] <cables> amar, try what I told you
[06:51] <kitche> cafuego_: hmm I should try that on a vm since I only run linux in a VM right now
[06:51] <amar> k.....
[06:51] <amar> i will try
[06:51] <Frogzoo> rpc: 0 is good
[06:51] <rpc> cafuego i did, nothing strange in message at all
[06:51] <amar> wait.....
[06:51] <Kelbizzle> Is there a way to get a brand new smb.conf?
[06:51] <rpc> Frogzoo i will remember that :) what does it tell about btw?
[06:51] <Kelbizzle> or get the default copy of one?
[06:51] <Frogzoo> rpc: that's the number of processes blocked waiting io
[06:52] <Frogzoo> rpc: it's possible your puter was doing something else - try copying again, & run vmstat at the same time
[06:52] <rpc> Frogzoo oh i read you
[06:52] <riskbreakr> hey guys. I installed ubuntu on a friend's computer, and he liked it, but wants me to set it up for dual-boot. Is there a way for me to install windows XP on his computer, without getting rid of GRUB?
[06:52] <amar> cables: when i used ur method i got dis error "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:52] <rpc> will do, thank you very much
[06:52] <riskbreakr> or at least, if i can't do that, then is there a way to reinstall GRUB after Windows XP manhandles it?
[06:52] <sigger> so what do you all use for IRC prog?  I like Konversation, but I'd like something that will not put the joins/quits/etc on the channel page
[06:52] <kitche> riskbreakr: have to reinstlal grub after installing windows
[06:52] <kitche> !grub | riskbreakr
[06:52] <ubotu> riskbreakr: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:53] <dabaR> sean13: run mount in a termina, and pastebin it.
[06:53] <riskbreakr> thanks much =)
[06:53] <cables> amar, open a terminal (Applications>Accessories>Terminal) and run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:53] <Frogzoo> sigger: irssi works
[06:53] <sigger> Frogzoo: ooh yeah. I remember hearing about irssi
[06:53] <rbil> Kelbizzie: should be one here ... /usr/share/samba/smb.conf
[06:53] <Kelbizzle> rbil, thanks
[06:54] <artorious> Hey, I'm having a bit of trouble with 915resolution and my 915GM graphics on my laptop
[06:54] <artorious> I can't get the resolution to go past 1024x768
[06:55] <Sluff> top is a good little terminal tool to show whats running and consuming the most.
[06:55] <amar> cables: thank u very much dude........ its working fine now......
[06:55] <amar> wat was the pro??
[06:55] <riskbreakr> question: would you recommend I use this? http://www.geocities.com/lode_leroy/grubinstall/
[06:55] <Frogzoo> Sluff: htop
[06:55] <Sluff> will try.
[06:56] <kitche> riskbreakr: I wouldn't but that's just me
[06:56] <ChaosEddie> room: I keep getting errors from gaim about my sn being logged into 2 locations. im logged into my cousin's computer which is okay. everytime i get a message on gaim, it says that im signed into gaim in two location. another message will tell me im logged in at 3 locations. a message after that tells me im logged in at 4, etc. thoughts?
[06:56] <cables> amar, no problem
[06:56] <amar> then Y it was showing like dat...
[06:56] <ChaosEddie> cables: i miss what happened. what was the problem
[06:56] <riskbreakr> well... i am just trying to find a quick solution, i took a quick glance at the wiki page and it seems like the majority of the solutions provided are messy and long
[06:57] <cables> ChaosEddie, Synaptic didn't seem to be running as root at first. When run using gksudo, it said that an installation hadn't completed, so he needed to run "sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a"
[06:57] <cables> ChaosEddie, except it was --configure not --reconfigure
[06:57] <ChaosEddie> riskbreakr: back up the files, installwindows, reinstall ubuntu
[06:58] <dabaR> ChaosEddie: what an awesomely delightful solution
[06:58] <riskbreakr> well, that is longer and messier =)
[06:59] <riskbreakr> i'll try it the not-as-long and messy way then
[06:59] <riskbreakr> thanks a lot
[06:59] <dabaR> riskbreakr: good luck
[06:59] <rbil> riskbreakr: are far cleaner solution is install Ubuntu and wave goodbye to Windoze
[06:59] <nf4> do i need aigxl or glx to run beryl ?
[06:59] <dabaR> nf4: yes
[07:00] <dabaR> what are you asking?
[07:00] <nf4> i get beryl to run in gnome but when i log in to xgl and load beryl just white screen
[07:01] <sean13> anyone got any ideas for solutions on my problem?
[07:01] <dabaR> nf4: I think this page is the best way to start : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[07:01] <kvnx> which would ubuntu perform better on, a duron 800 with pc100 ram, or a via epia 600 with ddr ram?
[07:01] <ChaosEddie> sean13: what was it
[07:02] <amar>  i'm using 5.10 so i wanna upgrade it to 6.06 without using install CD.... i mean i wanna update manually by editing source list
[07:02] <dabaR> sean13: run mount in a termina, and pastebin it.
[07:02] <amar> can i do dat??
[07:02] <dabaR> !upgrade | amar
[07:02] <ubotu> amar: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:02] <amar> some ppl its not worth to do??
[07:02] <amar> *say
[07:02] <sean13> ChaosEddie, when I put in a dvd disk into my dvd drive(reader or writer) it will automatically bring up the dvd/cd creator program that comes with Ubuntu and tell me that the dvd is blank
[07:03] <sean13> dabaR, ok will do that now
[07:03] <dabaR> amar: some people say many things. Do you need anything from dapper
[07:03] <nf4> why upgread to 6.06 6.10  is newest i think
[07:03] <sk2> can anyone explain to me why I don't get a /usr/lib/nvidia directory when I install the nvidia drivers?
[07:03] <dabaR> nf4: yuo can not skip versions when upgrading
[07:03] <ChaosEddie> did you try the multimedia page?
[07:03] <cables> sk2, how are you installing them?
[07:04] <nf4> i see
[07:04] <amar> dabar: if we do like dat we will experience some pro......
[07:04] <sk2> cables: I ran the binary (with ncurses ui) from the Nvidia website, as well as using Envy
[07:04] <nf4> i alwasy start fresh is why i dont know that
[07:04] <theblue> Hi all.
[07:04] <dabaR> yes, amar, exactly.
[07:04] <jiminy> This may be a stupid question---I'm just getting installation started, and it's asking me for mount and swap partitions. Can I use the same partition for both?
[07:04] <sean13> ChaosEddie, multimedia page?
[07:04] <dabaR> jiminy: you can not.
[07:05] <amar> dabar: is it n't worth to do so??
[07:05] <dabaR> jiminy: you do not _have_ to have a swap, but it is better. Make another partition out of the empty partition.
[07:05] <ChaosEddie> !multimedia
[07:05] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[07:05] <sean13> dabaR, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6063/
[07:05] <sean13> ChaosEddie, thanks will have a look at that page now
[07:06] <dabaR> amar: it is worth to do something if you have a reason to do so. Do yuo have a reason to upgrade?
[07:06] <jiminy> dabaR: Okay, cool. So, best to make a small partition for swap, and nothing else?
[07:06] <Frogzoo> jiminy: no way - swap needs to be separate - while you're at it, do yourself a favour & create a separate /home partition
[07:06] <theblue> Ugh.
[07:06] <dabaR> sean13: now, ls /media/cdrom0, and show the output of that.
[07:06] <Frogzoo> jiminy: 1gig for swap should be plenty
[07:06] <edawg26> can someone help me? My nautilus is bugged. I can't use the 'open with' command at all now. It keeps saying 'Could not add application to the application database
[07:06] <amar> dabar: reason is simple..... we will get the upgraded ver with some extra features......rite??
[07:07] <dabaR> jiminy: well, a swap the size of the RAM is nice. And Frogzoo makes a good point.
[07:07] <dabaR> amar: do you need the extra features?
[07:07] <jiminy> Frogzoo: (Sorry, coming over from Mac here) Does that mean one for the system, or one for my user folder? Or something different?
[07:07] <sean13> ChaosEddie, I don't think none of that will help me, all I am trying to do is read the data on this dvd disk, not play DVD's or anything like that.  The disk contains text files, jpegs(and other image formats) and such other files
[07:07] <sean13> dabaR, ok doing it now
[07:07] <kvnx> which would ubuntu perform better on, a duron 800 with pc100 ram, or a via epia 600 with ddr ram?
[07:07] <mzuverink> cafuego, I am assuming that you are the cat responsible for .debs that bear your name.  I am noticing that you have a gktpod v.0.99.8-0, and that you have no gtkpod-aac v.0.99.8-0.  Does the repo version support aac and you forgot to label as, or does not a beast exist?
[07:07] <sk2> anyone experienced with the nvidia drivers who could help with why I don
[07:07] <sk2> t get /usr/lib/nvidia?
[07:08] <Frogzoo> jiminy: let root '/' have 10-15gig + 1gig swap + rest for /home
[07:08] <amar> dabar:i think everyone needs extra features...!!?
[07:08] <dabaR> Do you want them more than you _need_ to have a usable computer...I mean, upgrading is nice, we are taught so from culture, but sometimes you have to be content with what you have.
[07:08] <sean13> dabaR, the items contained on the disk are listed
[07:09] <dabaR> kvnx: wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport may have some answers.
[07:09] <dabaR> sean13: use nautilus to view them.
[07:09] <edawg26> can someone help me? My nautilus is bugged. I can't use the 'open with' command at all now. It keeps saying 'Could not add application to the application database'. I don't know what caused this, except that I copied my home folder from one machine to another... is there a way to reset/clear out this 'application database'?
[07:09] <sean13> dabaR, yeah nautilus can see them now aswell
[07:09] <amar> k...... i understand ...... i will first learn dis one properly..... then i will go for upgrading it...
[07:09] <jiminy> Frogzoo: Okay, that makes sense.
[07:09] <dabaR> edawg26: try mv ~/.nautilus ~/.nautilus_old :-/
[07:10] <dabaR> sean13: nice.
[07:10] <jiminy> Thanks to Frogzoo & dabaR---off to install!
[07:10] <sean13> dabaR, thanks for the help
[07:10] <jiminy> \quit
[07:10] <jiminy> oops
[07:10] <amar> dabar: thanks dude...
[07:10] <Tode_I> What happens if I check the box next to every damn package in synaptic, so no matter what dependency it encounters, we got it covered?
[07:10] <sean13> dabaR, now any idea how to make it so that the default burning program doesn't automatically come up when I put in a disk?
[07:11] <sk2> Is there somewhere I can download the nvidia binary as source code?
[07:11] <dabaR> amar: I mean, you can upgrade, but you do not have to. I usually upgrade as soon as there is a new version, but then again, I can fix my computer when it breaks, I back up important data, and follow the instructions on the wiki. Given you satisfy that criteria, you could upgrade, yes.
[07:11] <edawg26> dabaR: no worky ;<. It didn't seem to make a difference, and my comp. didn't re-create .nautilus. So maybe its one of the .gnome* directories?
[07:11] <cables> sean13, go to System>Preferences>Removeable Drives and Media
[07:11] <cables> sk2, you kidding? It's completely closed source.
[07:11] <dabaR> edawg26: killall nautilus after you do that.
[07:11] <hitmanWilly> sk2: yeah, it sux
[07:12] <ChaosEddie> sean13: let me clear that up. your hardware sees the dvd being there, but the software wont show files. ROOM: what does this tell us? tell me becuase i dont know either
[07:12] <amar> dabar: thanx......
[07:12] <sk2> cables: that's what I thought, but I can't get anything in /usr/lib/nvidia... I suspect this is teh cause of my Beryl Whitescreen problems
[07:12] <_goofy_> whats the command to reconfigure xserver
[07:12] <cables> sk2, have you tried installing with the official guide?
[07:12] <cables> !nvidia | sk2
[07:12] <ubotu> sk2: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:13] <dabaR> !fixres > _goofy_
[07:13] <edawg26> dabaR: ok, I shouldda though of that. It reset stuff, reset icons on my desktop, but it did not fix the problem ;<.
[07:13] <sk2> Ok I'll try those
[07:13] <edawg26> dabaR: so I guess it's not a nautilus issue.
[07:13] <rbil> _goofy_: should be given at the top of your xorg.conf file
[07:13] <ChaosEddie> dabaR: my brother just became CC ubuntu member so now its my time to get on top of helping people.
[07:13] <ChaosEddie> even if i cant
[07:13] <dabaR> edawg26: what is in your open with?
[07:13] <Laibsc1> Is anybody here using multisync to successfully sync *to* evolution?
[07:13] <dabaR> ChaosEddie: who is your brother?
[07:14] <ChaosEddie> admiral_chicago
[07:14] <dabaR> ChaosEddie: how old are you?
[07:14] <ChaosEddie> i duno if you know him. chicago loco, hangs out with nixternal alot.
[07:14] <ChaosEddie> 19
[07:14] <sean13> ChaosEddie, yeah that's correct, my system shows the DVD as being there but it shows it as being empty
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> sean13: what did you burn it with?
[07:14] <edawg26> dabaR: I'm not 100% sure, sorry. A little noobies. I did the default ubuntu install so I am using gnome and everything. I guess nautilus goes along with that? All I know is that renaming the .nautilus & the killall nautilus didn't fix the problem
[07:15] <ChaosEddie> i have nooo idea. i think it may be an I/o fault but i dont know.
[07:15] <cables> sean13, did you get my previous message on how to prevent the burning program from coming up when you stick a blank disk in?
[07:15] <ChaosEddie> edawg26: kill all nautilus wont work
[07:15] <ChaosEddie> wrong command
[07:15] <dabaR> edawg26: do you right click on a file and then go open with, and select an app to open with?
[07:15] <ChaosEddie> i think its sudo kill nautilus
[07:15] <cables> ChaosEddie, you don't need the sudo there, unless you want root's nautilus killed.
[07:15] <sean13> cables, yeah sorry I forgot to reply to you, i've checked that option now but am waiting to finish copying the contents of the disk onto my hard drive before I can check what happens
[07:15] <cables> sean13, ok
[07:16] <ChaosEddie> cables: restarting the whole thing might work
[07:16] <sean13> hitmanWilly, I have no idea what it was burnt with, probably with nero or one of the other popular burning programs for windows
[07:16] <cables> edawg26, ChaosEddie suggested restarting... not a bad idea.
[07:17] <edawg26> dabaR:  It does not work no matter what I chose. Eg. I just chose a test file and told it to 'open with' the 'text editor'. Got the same error. Told an AVI to open with VLC. Got the same error.
[07:17] <sean13> hitmanWilly: I've read somewhere before that this might be because the disk was not finalised
[07:17] <hitmanWilly> sean13: that was my guess
[07:17] <cables> edawg26, my guess is that that info's stored in gconf.
[07:17] <dabaR> edawg26: go into properties, and then the open with, and see whether you can remove any of the entries. On a text file.
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> sean13: ive had that happen to me before
[07:18] <sean13> hitmanWilly, is there any way to change the settings in Ubuntu so it doesn't show the disk as empty just because it's not been finalised?
[07:18] <sean13> What did you do?
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> sean13: reburned it
[07:18] <crusoe_> I'm trying to setup samba.  everything works fine, I can connect to the server using username and password but i also want to be able to access it using no user and pw, but with limited permissions (they can't delete files)
[07:18] <edawg26> dabaR: the 'remove' button is greyed out.
[07:19] <edawg26> dabaR: like I said, the way I got here was I copied my old home directory over my new one... I dunno if that helps...
[07:19] <hitmanWilly> sean13: if i remember right, there's a setting when you burn with xp that keeps it readable(in Xp) and not finalized
[07:20] <kondor2> i have had this problem with my set top dvd recorder and my pc, it will read only in the one it was made in if not finalised
[07:20] <sean13> hitmanWilly, Thanks for that but that's not really an option for me, I don't burn these disks, I get them sent to me every week and really don't want to reburn them everytime I get them
[07:20] <gortba> someone help...I went on the internet to search the forums for a command to view my hard drive space. Low and behold, the first search brough up a forum which said to type rm -rf in the command line. What did I do? My system won't work anymore :(
[07:20] <ChaosEddie> ! -rf
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <ChaosEddie> !-rf
[07:20] <ChaosEddie> hmm
[07:21] <hitmanWilly> sean13: sorry. that's the only way i know of to fix it
[07:21] <gortba> ChaosEddie??
[07:21] <sean13> hitmanWilly, no problem thanks for the help though
[07:21] <yell0w>   gortba oops!
[07:21] <rbil> crusoe_: look at how [printer$]  section is setup, specifically  using guest ok = yes, read only =yes, should do it
[07:21] <ChaosEddie> gortba: sorry, let me check out the internet
[07:21] <ChaosEddie> where did you type this in? terminal?
[07:21] <cables> gortba, rm -rf removes everything from the folder you're in
[07:21] <crusoe_> rbil: why printer$?
[07:21] <cables> ChaosEddie, ^^
[07:22] <yell0w> gortba, which folder were you at ?
[07:22] <gortba> Oh Great.
[07:22] <rbil> cursoe_: just as an example
[07:22] <gortba> umm
[07:22] <cables> gortba, if you were in home folder (that's the default) then it deleted the entire home folder.
[07:22] <ChaosEddie> cables: shorthand for RemoveFolder?
[07:22] <cables> ChaosEddie, not even close :)
[07:22] <gortba> I'm not sure
[07:22] <gortba> I think I was in /proc
[07:22] <rbil> crusoe_: you want the share to be browseable, allow guest and have it read only
[07:22] <dabaR> ChaosEddie: Your brother is a new member of what again? CC? What is that?
[07:23] <cables> ChaosEddie, rm = remove, r = recursive, f = force
[07:23] <gortba> So is there anyway to restore the system. I can't even boot it back up
[07:23] <dabaR> gortba: you are serious about this?
[07:24] <sigger> Frogzoo: ok, trying irssi now, but was hoping for something a little less VT; a little more GUI. any recommendations?
[07:24] <Black4lpha> hmm, maybe someone can help me with this, my monitor will randomly goto "frequency out of range" screen when im in 1024 x 728 res and seems to not let me use a refresh rate lower of 60hz or lower(which my monitor can can only support on 1024x728)
[07:24] <gortba> Yes dabaR
[07:24] <dabaR> gortba: show me the forum where you found this, please.
[07:24] <ChaosEddie> a sec
[07:24] <gortba> I'm a newbie using linux
[07:24] <ndlovu> hi all. any idea where to look for pdf files recently viewed from the Internet (computer died before saving)?
[07:24] <gortba> It was the linuxforum.org
[07:24] <cables> gortba, if you didn't delete your home folder, you can back that up using a LiveCD like Knoppix to access it and then copy it to another drive. Then reinstall it
[07:24] <dabaR> !fixres | Black4lpha
[07:24] <ubotu> Black4lpha: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:24] <dabaR> gortba: show me the exact post, please.
[07:24] <gortba> I went back but couldn't regenerate the search correctly
[07:24] <Black4lpha> ty, ubotu
[07:25] <gortba> I'll try and find it again. My system shut down though
[07:25] <crusoe_> rbil: hmm, i can connect to the share, and the main folders show up, but the actual files aren't there
[07:25] <cables> !ubotu | Black4lpha
[07:25] <ubotu> Black4lpha: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:25] <crusoe_> rbil: but they are there when i connect to share with user and pw
[07:25] <dabaR> gortba: never mind. Is this the same computer you are using now?
[07:25] <dabaR> ndlovu: Desktop...
[07:26] <dabaR> ndlovu: what program do you use to browse the web?
[07:26] <rbil> crusoe_ guest ok = yes should allow connection to share without login
[07:26] <Frogzoo> sigger: apt-cache search irc
[07:26] <cables> gortba, can you tell me what the post was about? What was it trying to help you do?
[07:26] <gortba> Yes. But I have two systems installed. Dual Boot. So I just booted it up into the other Ubuntu
[07:26] <rbil> '
[07:26] <gortba> Yeah hang on. I'm searching it now to try to find the exact post
[07:26] <crusoe_> rbil: i've already got that line in the smb.conf
[07:26] <cables> gortba, can you just tell me what it was about? I'm trying to look for it now.
[07:27] <dabaR> gortba: we will mount the other partition, and see what is left. pleased post the output of sudo fdisk -l to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:27] <ChaosEddie> what am i talking about? he's an ubuntu member, someone who has shown a very substantial promotion/help of ubuntu. i think there are roughly 150 or so. if I understand it correctly
[07:27] <rbil> crusoe_ and you restarted smb after making changes to smb.conf?
[07:27] <gortba> Here't the post: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/56270-how-much-space-my-hard-drive.html
[07:27] <ndlovu> dabaR, Firefox
[07:27] <crusoe_> rbil: ye[
[07:27] <crusoe_> yep*
[07:27] <rbil> sorry, have to leave here. hopefully you'll get it sorted out.
[07:27] <gortba> cables...you got it?
[07:27] <ndlovu> dabaR, it should be in a temp directory somewhere?
[07:27] <cables> gortba, that looks like some dumbass put rm -rf / as his signature
[07:28] <cables> gortba, they weren't telling you to do that, but I can see how someone could make the mistake.  But first I have to register on the forums.
[07:29] <dabaR> nice.
[07:29] <cables> gortba, did you do rm -rf or rm -rf / ?
[07:29] <ndlovu> dabaR, I've looked there, but I fear it gets cleared when the computer starts up :(
[07:29] <dilch> no one would do rm -rf /
[07:29] <dilch> not even if they were told to
[07:29] <koregaonpark> Ahoy, fellow Ubuntu users. How do I mount my slave HD in Ubuntu Edgy?
[07:29] <cables> dilch, linux newbs who don't know what it does and see it on a forum would.
[07:29] <ndlovu> dabaR, I should be able to get there from firefox's history
[07:29] <koregaonpark> The GUI option seems to be gone.
[07:30] <dabaR> And...that particular thing does not work in Ubuntu, cause you can not su
[07:30] <dilch> cables then they should never use a *nix again
[07:30] <dilch> ever
[07:30] <dabaR> ndlovu: try work offline, and then the history...
[07:30] <gortba> cables.. actually I did it with the file system root /
[07:30] <gortba> I'm screwed
[07:30] <cables> dilch, shut up...
[07:30] <dilch> i have ruled on the matter. Next!
[07:30] <cables> gortba, you used sudo?
[07:30] <ndlovu> dabaR, good thought!
[07:30] <dilch> cables don't question my authority, you insolent swine.
[07:30] <gortba> yes
[07:30] <dabaR> koregaonpark: sudo fdisk -l will show you all the hard disks mounted, if you post that to pastebin, I will give you a command to mount it.
[07:31] <cables> gortba, you're screwed, and everything's gone.  It's pasted
[07:31] <cables> dabaR, he sudo rm -rf /'d.
[07:31] <RYUTAZA> Hello
[07:31] <dilch> just re-install, and learn what commands you are typing in
[07:31] <koregaonpark> dabaR, gotcha.
[07:32] <dabaR> gortba: give me a link, please.
[07:32] <RYUTAZA> Wow!!
[07:32] <cables> dabaR, i have it, hold on
[07:32] <cables> dabaR, some asshole put it as his sig and made it look like instructions
[07:32] <dabaR> I looked at the link.
[07:32] <cables> dabaR, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/56270-how-much-space-my-hard-drive.html
[07:32] <RYUTAZA> -0-
[07:32] <dabaR> cables: not that. a link to the pastebin...follow the conversation:)
[07:32] <gortba> dabaR here you go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6065/
[07:33] <dabaR> !hi | RYUTAZA
[07:33] <ubotu> RYUTAZA: Hi!  I'm betting he never does it again, nor accepts typing random commands into his console
[07:33] <cables> dabaR, sorry, thought you were talking about something else
[07:33] <dabaR> gortba: now also show output of mount on a pastebin.
[07:33] <RYUTAZA> ubuntu have version portable ?
[07:33] <gortba> dabaR: what?
[07:34] <cables> dabaR, he RM -RF /'d! how the hell will that help?
[07:34] <kondor2> talking of which, what do you guys reckon the best way to make a backup of your current system is?
[07:34] <dabaR> koregaonpark: sudo mkdir /media/hdb1;sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1;ls /media/hdb1, tell me whether you see your files after that.
[07:34] <ChaosEddie> RYUTAZA: you mean a bootable enviornment? from say... a USB drive?
[07:34] <deep> Hi there. :) I am getting the source of a stable version of gaim (since im running the alpha version of ubuntu, and gaim just crashes), how can i prevent apt to update gaim in the future?
[07:34] <cables> dabaR, gortba, sorry... I'm a bit annoyed. There may be an "undelete" sorta thing for Ext3, not sure though.
[07:34] <cables> gortba, how important is the data on the drive?
[07:34] <mark___> kondor2: depends.  could be dd for smaller stuff.  I use rsync for data/music
[07:34] <dabaR> gortba: run "mount" in a terminal, and show the output on a pastebin, please.
[07:35] <cables> dilch, why are you in this channel if you have that attitude?
[07:35] <RYUTAZA> yes
[07:35] <ndlovu> any idea how to debug power management problems on a laptop? battery status only seems to be checked at startup - after that you're on your own.
[07:35] <gortba> Well, there's a lot of stuff on there that I feel I need cables
[07:35] <cables> dabaR, shouldn't it be "sudo mount"?
[07:35] <dilch> cables i have told you to never question my authority in front of the others again. Thank you.
[07:35] <RYUTAZA> I want it
[07:35] <dabaR> cables: it is best to ignore people that yiou find annoying. Only post in attempt to help the person you are speaking to is a good rule.
[07:35] <dabaR> cables: it works either way.
[07:35] <Asl[a] n> Hi, i can't switch to any virtual terms using Ctrl+Alt+F1 keys anymore
[07:36] <dabaR> dilch: funny.
[07:36] <Frogzoo> ndlovu: sys -> prefs -> pwr mgt (gnome)
[07:36] <Asl[a] n> what could be the problem?
[07:36] <dabaR> Asl[a] n: what happens when you do it?
[07:36] <ChaosEddie> room: answer ryutaza please. i know the answer is yes, i duno the specific answer though
[07:36] <Asl[a] n> dabaR,
[07:36] <Asl[a] n> nothing
[07:36] <koregaonpark> dabaR, I ran all those commands successfully, but I still don't see my slave drive in Computer.
[07:36] <Asl[a] n> i do know that all keys are working tough
[07:37] <dabaR> !installation | RYUTAZA
[07:37] <ubotu> RYUTAZA: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:37] <cables> RYUTAZA, it has a liveCD.
[07:37] <gortba> dabaR: What do you mean by pastebin. You mean on the ubuntu website that you gave me a few minutes ago?
[07:37] <dabaR> Asl[a] n: post output of ps aux on a pastebin, please.
[07:37] <ChaosEddie> gortba: yes
[07:37] <dabaR> gortba: yes, that one.
[07:37] <ChaosEddie> !pastbin
[07:37] <cables> !paste | gortba
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <ubotu> gortba: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:37] <ChaosEddie> nice ubotu
[07:37] <ndlovu> Frogzoo, thanks, but it doesn't seem to be updating. there are no battery low warnings and definitely no shutdown process when battery level is critical
[07:38] <dilch> RYUTAZA if you are looking for a 'portable' linux, i would recommend something like puppylinux or damn small linux on a usb stick
[07:38] <dabaR> koregaonpark: do you get any output from ls /media/hdb1?
[07:38] <dilch> RYUTAZA a live ubuntu disk is overkill for this
[07:38] <koregaonpark> dabaR, yes. Would you like to see it?
[07:38] <dabaR> dilch: you can insatll ubuntu on a USB. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation shows how.
[07:38] <dabaR> koregaonpark: shows the right files?
[07:39] <cables> dilch, my guess is that you got burned by rm -rf / in your *nix newb days and are just bitter.
[07:39] <dilch> dabaR yes, i know. As i said, ubuntu for this purpose may be overkill
[07:39] <gortba> dabaR here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6067/
[07:39] <RYUTAZA> thanks ><
[07:39] <cables> dabaR, I'll stop talking to dilch now
[07:39] <dabaR> cables: not helping.
[07:39] <yettenet> Could anyone help me setting up cron?
[07:39] <Asl[a] n> dabaR, http://rafb.net/p/Wh0qT774.html
[07:39] <koregaonpark> dabaR, here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6068/
[07:39] <dilch> cables my *nix newb days were over 20 years ago. And no, i never got 'burned' by typing random commands
[07:39] <yettenet> I just added entries to crontab, but I might've done something wrong
[07:40] <dilch> cables but, i *have* had to learn some things the hard way. He just learned something the hard way. He'll never forget it.
[07:40] <yell0w> yettenet, what does crontab -l give you ?
[07:40] <dabaR> gortba: "sudo mkdir /media/hda1;sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1;ls /media/hda1", post output to pastebin, pleae.
[07:40] <yettenet> 35 7 * * 1,2,3,4,5,7    /usr/bin/amarok
[07:40] <dabaR> Asl[a] n: alt-ctrl-f3
[07:41] <yell0w> yettenet, when do you want that to run ?
[07:41] <dilch> dabaR better to do "sudo mkdir /media/hda1 && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 && ls /mdedia/hda1"
[07:41] <yettenet> Az 7:35 every day except saturday
[07:41] <dabaR> koregaonpark: killall gnome-panel will restart your computer menu. Try that, please.
[07:41] <cafuego_> yettenet: that won't work, amarok is an X application and needs various env variables set (that aren't set in cron's environment)
[07:41] <dabaR> dilch: good point.
[07:41] <yettenet> Oh, I see
[07:41] <yettenet> Is there any way around?
[07:42] <dilch> dabaR does he know what filesystem he is working with?
[07:42] <koregaonpark> dabaR, okay, one minute.
[07:42] <cafuego_> yettenet: You could run wrapper script that sets $DISPLAY
[07:42] <Asl[a] n> dabaR, what does that shortcut do?
[07:42] <Asl[a] n> nothign happens
[07:42] <dabaR> dilch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6065/
[07:42] <cafuego_> and have the wrapper start amarok
[07:42] <dilch> ok
[07:42] <yettenet> Um... I don't know what a wrapper script is...
[07:42] <ardchoille> yettenet: There is no "7" in crontab, The days of the week are 0 - 6
[07:42] <dabaR> Asl[a] n: hold down alt, ctrl, and f4 together...
[07:42] <yettenet> Neither do I know about sDISPLAY :)
[07:42] <koregaonpark> dabaR, ran the killall command, still nothing in Computer.
[07:42] <yettenet> Hm
[07:43] <koregaonpark> dabaR, logging out and back in.
[07:43] <koregaonpark> BRB
[07:44] <lorderunion> hi. i've got a weird problem with kde and gnome. i set kde as my default window manager/desktop environment, so when my computer boots up, it shows the Kubuntu screen
[07:44] <lorderunion> i log in and then it loads gnome instead.
[07:44] <lorderunion> any dieas?
[07:44] <dabaR> lorderunion: is there a sessions chooser on kdm?
[07:44] <gortba> dabaR: Here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6069/
[07:44] <unop> lorderunion,  try changing sessions
[07:44] <yell0w> yettenet, best if you do a shell script involving amarok and let the script run in crontab
[07:44] <lorderunion> ok
[07:45] <lorderunion> brb
[07:45] <dabaR> gortba: did you have fedora core on that hard disk?
[07:45] <yettenet> Thanks, I'm gonna google it
[07:45] <gortba> No ubuntu
[07:45] <gortba> umm...
[07:45] <gortba> actually a while back I tryed to install fedora core 6
[07:45] <deep> Umm, did'nt get any answers last time, ill try again; :
[07:45] <deep> Hi there. :) I am getting the source of a stable version of gaim (since im running the alpha version of ubuntu, and gaim just crashes), how can i prevent apt to update gaim in the future?
[07:45] <newest007> giday, erm, anyone know of any decent widgets for the gnome desktop... im reaally struggling to see why i dont get KDE instead of gnome, gnome is so.. bland
[07:45] <niru> hello all
[07:46] <deep> Hi (:
[07:46] <niru> is ubuntu providing jre package in cd
[07:46] <ardchoille> yettenet: If you want to run an X app in tty7, the command in crontab should be: 00 04 * * * env DISPLAY=:0. /path/if/needed/command_here
[07:46] <niru> deep:hello
[07:46] <dabaR> deep: uninstall gaim. use checkinstall to install the source.
[07:46] <lorderunion> that worked perfectly. thank you.
[07:46] <ardchoille> yettenet: Edit the "00 04 * * *" as desired
[07:46] <cables> dilch, I'm not apologizing to you on the channel like you requested... don't feel superior just because you can tell what a command will do better than someone who's never used a *nix shell before.
[07:46] <unop> niru,  no, java has a license that goes against ubuntu's policy of providing 100% free software
[07:46] <deep> Ah, well the source crashed too, so ill just have to live with the buggy gaim. ^^
[07:47] <dabaR> gortba: "sudo umount /dev/hda1;sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/hda1;ls /media/hda1", show us the output again, please.
[07:47] <niru> unop:but jre has become free
[07:47] <newest007> actually, how do i update GTK?
[07:47] <dabaR> unop: java is gpl now.
[07:47] <gortba> ok
[07:47] <dilch> cables enough. This is not the place for you to continue petty arguements
[07:47] <yell0w> niru, you can get jre through apt-get
[07:47] <IcemanV9> what? java is gpl?
[07:47] <ChaosEddie> deep: what do you mean?
[07:47] <unop> !info sun-java5-jre
[07:47] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7279 kB, installed size 16132 kB
[07:47] <dabaR> for now...
[07:48] <patrick> hey does anyone have a working creative zen v with gnomad2, i couldn't get it to install properly
[07:48] <deep> ChaosEddie, well, something like "gaim always crashes" ^^
[07:48] <ChaosEddie> mmhm
[07:48] <ChaosEddie> which version, release etc?
[07:48] <niru> yellOw:thats true but I want to give it in cd for my users can i give
[07:48] <ChaosEddie> did you try reinstall?
[07:48] <cables> dilch, you just asked me to make a public apology to you... that's not going to happen, and I'm going to end this now.
[07:48] <jussi01> !anyone | patrick
[07:48] <ubotu> patrick: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:49] <deep> ChaosEddie, well, first i had the one from repos, the lates ofc. But that didnt work, so i downloaded 1.5
[07:49] <patrick> jussi01 what do you mean,
[07:49] <deep> but that chrashes at start, so the ones from repos was better. :D
[07:49] <yell0w> niru, i'm not sure if it's in the official cd, i'm thinking not
[07:49] <unop> dabaR,  are you sure it's the GPL and not this http://www.java.com/en/download/license.jsp ?
[07:49] <patrick> i'm having trouble installing gnomad, from a guide online because the packaged version is not compatable with the zen v
[07:49] <yettenet> ardchoille: I'm gonna give it a go
[07:50] <ardchoille> ardchoille: Let me know if it works :)
[07:50] <dabaR> unop: ya, pretty sure java was gpl'ed recently. It may take a while to get it out of multiverse, but I expect it to happen.
[07:50] <ardchoille> yettenet:  Let me know if it works :)
[07:50] <ardchoille> UGH! Can't believe I'm talking to myself here.
[07:50] <gortba> dabaR: The command line is telling me to specify the filesystem type
[07:50] <dabaR> unop: google will have some articles, if you hit 'em up.
[07:50] <ChaosEddie> deep: i end up on a live cd about once a week at least, so gaim bugs/crashed dont really effect me
[07:51] <yell0w> niru, you might want to read this http://www.livedistro.org/resources/documentation/howtos/ubuntu-install-cd-customization?PHPSESSID=3a42f5a7d96563cffa4976a12f1c4489
[07:51] <jussi01> patrick: Im not sure about your mp3 player - maybe ask in a little while again - or try the forum
[07:51] <yettenet> We're gonna know it in less than 10 secs
[07:51] <yettenet> :P
[07:51] <gortba> dabaR: What does that mean?
[07:52] <yettenet> Works like charm
[07:52] <yettenet> Thanks :)
[07:52] <yettenet> btw
[07:52] <yettenet> What does those extra parameters do?
[07:52] <yettenet> *do
[07:52] <yettenet> It's quite early in the morning :P
[07:52] <yell0w> niru, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization is the source of that link btw
[07:52] <yell0w> =))
[07:52] <dabaR> Who knows what fs type is lvm?
[07:53] <patrick> jussi01 i tried the form, thats where i got the guide but when i installed gnomad from source it didnt compile it correctly and then when i used the make command it wouldnt do it
[07:53] <niru> yellOw:ok
[07:53] <dabaR> gortba: is the other ubuntu on the same hard disk, or on the other hard disk?
[07:53] <ardchoille> yettenet: Which extra params?
[07:53] <yettenet> "env DISPLAY=:0."
[07:53] <gortba> dabaR: I'm sorry..I think it's on another hard drive
[07:53] <gortba> I have two hdd
[07:53] <ardchoille> yettenet: The env DISPLAY=:0. ?
[07:54] <jussi01> patrick: have you installed build- essential?
[07:54] <RamiKassab> hey guys has anyone had any luck setting up a Diamond Stealth III S540 (Savage) video card to run a 1440 x 900 resolution? I did some googling and there seems to be issues with dri support for these cards but they should be capable of a 1440 x 900 resolution? There's 32 MB onboard. Any ideas? Thanks guys!
[07:54] <ardchoille> yettenet: Oh, that just lets cron know you want to launch the command/script in a certain env.
[07:54] <dabaR> gortba: how about "sudo mount /dev/hdb2 /media/hda1;ls /media/hda1" post the output of that to the pastebvin, please.
[07:54] <yettenet> oh :)
[07:54] <gortba> Ok one sec...
[07:54] <dynamicreflux> is anyone else having issues with the taskbar and the icons changing size randomly?
[07:55] <unop> dabaR,  if i understand it right, an LVM is an accumulation of different physical volumes which can then be split up into partitions, it's those partitions that have FSes not the actual logical volume (i think, not sure)
[07:56] <IcemanV9> there is NO text replace feature in xchat-gnome :( ... i created replace.conf file - nope, it does not work
[07:56] <gortba> dabaR: Here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6070/
[07:56] <yell0w> IcemanV9, there's also xchat2 =))
[07:56] <dilch> IcemanCZ incidently, xchat-gnome blows goats .. use the xchat
[07:56] <gortba> dabaR: Thanks for doing all this...
[07:56] <IcemanV9> haha. jeez. too easy.
[07:56] <zues> BitchX
[07:56] <jussi01> !anyone | dynamicreflux
[07:56] <ubotu> dynamicreflux: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:56] <dilch> irssi
[07:56] <ChaosEddie> well if i read that correctly, he IcemanV9 is using GNOME. thats the problem right there
[07:56] <yell0w> IcemanV9, it works (TM)
[07:56] <yell0w> =))
[07:56] <dilch> if you want console
[07:57] <IcemanV9> lol ChaosEddie .. very good ;)
[07:57] <dynamicreflux> jussi01: im confused, that WAS my question???
[07:57] <dabaR> gortba: now, "ls /media/hda1/etc/fstab" show that on a pastebin, please.
[07:57] <dynamicreflux> im trying to see if its normal or not jussi01
[07:57] <dabaR> gortba: actually...
[07:57] <yell0w> ChaosEddie, what's wrong with gnome ? ;(
[07:58] <theblue> Is there a graphical launcher for QEMU in Edgy?
[07:58] <ChaosEddie> KDE
[07:58] <dabaR> gortba: "cat /media/hda1/etc/fstab;cat /media/hda1/etc/issue"
[07:58] <ndlovu> any idea how to work with gconf? I see a few xml files, but not sure if there's some nifty way to edit them?
[07:58] <gortba> dabaR: It says no such file or directory
[07:58] <dabaR> for both?
[07:59] <yell0w> ChaosEddie, exactly, what's wrong with gnome ? ;(  ;(  ;(
[07:59] <gortba> no..
[07:59] <dabaR> gortba: oh, ya, you don't have etc.
[07:59] <gortba> I didnt see the second one
[07:59] <yettenet> yell0w: It's slow :)
[07:59] <gortba> hang on
[07:59] <yell0w> yettenet, slower than kde ? !_!
[07:59] <yettenet> yell0w: Both are slow compared to xfce :)
[07:59] <yell0w> kde's always been the fat kid hasn't he ?
[08:00] <yettenet> I didn't say KDE isn't slow :P
[08:00] <dabaR> gortba: now "sudo umount /dev/hdb2 sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/hda1;ls /media/hda1" post the output of that to the pastebvin, please.
[08:00] <goban> how do you choose your java version
[08:00] <yell0w> yettenet, i don't like rodents ; )
[08:00] <RoboSheep> KDE has always been the fat bars you mean...
[08:01] <yettenet> Well, I don't know what rodents are and I don't like prejudicing things... so I like them :P
[08:01] <dabaR> goban: man update-alternatives. or try update-alternatives java in a termianl
[08:01] <IcemanV9> !offtopic
[08:01] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter.  I did some googling and there seems to be issues with dri support for these cards but they should be capable of a 1440 x 900 resolution? There's 32 MB onboard. Any ideas? Thanks guys!
[08:03] <gortba> ok
[08:03] <RamiKassab> I'd appreciate any help
[08:03] <RamiKassab> this has been frustrating the living heck out of me
[08:04] <RamiKassab> I've searched as much as I can and can't find anything
[08:04] <yettenet> Damn, man, that's rock hard
[08:04] <theblue> How do I suggest that a package be included in Ubuntu?
[08:05] <ardchoille> MyGhetek: That'd be one messy dcc, lol
[08:05] <yettenet> :)
[08:05] <gortba> dabaR: It says you must specify filesystem type
[08:05] <jussi01> RamiKassab: sorry mate, I have no idea - but keep trying, dont be discouraged - someone is bound to know some time
[08:05] <ardchoille> ndlovu: Wait until you learn that you can set and get those settings via CLI ;)
[08:05] <yettenet> MyGhetek: If you cant put it directly through the window, get around it
[08:06] <MyGhetek> yettenet: any  way to get your pizza right?
[08:06] <meisam> hi, how can i check if tomcat 5.5 is working proeprly?
[08:06] <ardchoille> ndlovu: man gconftool-2
[08:06] <yettenet> MyGhetek: fedEX
[08:06] <dabaR> gortba: you deleted all your files that matter, unless you had something on an apache web server on that installation of ubuntu. Sorry.
[08:06] <dynamicreflux> is it normal for windows in the task bar to change sizes randomly and not fixed?
[08:06] <MyGhetek> haha
[08:07] <ardchoille> dynamicreflux: I see them sometimes dependent on the title in the app's titlebar.
[08:07] <cables> dynamicreflux, that bugs me too... it's probably a weird way that they programmed it
[08:07] <RamiKassab> jussi01: I can't find anything on it :( I have this beautiful 19" widescreen and it's not being put to use on my linux nachine
[08:07] <RamiKassab> machine
[08:07] <RamiKassab> jussi01: can't even go past 1024 x 768 res?!
[08:07] <dabaR> gortba: how important were those files? YOu can maybe get some local linux group to take a look at it if it was very important.
[08:07] <dynamicreflux> ardchoille: it used to be where if i had just one application, it would span across the whole bar...now its COMPLETELY random
[08:07] <RoboSheep> I can't get my HP psc 2175 to scan, it prints just fine.
[08:07] <cables> ardchoille, but all of them change, not just the one whose title changed.
[08:07] <yettenet> MyGhetek: Try hashing the pizza and paste its code
[08:07] <unop> theblue,  this might help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement
[08:07] <RamiKassab> jussi01: this is a 32MB 3d accelerated video card
[08:07] <gortba> dabaR: Man that sucks. I guess I should learn to use the command line before I mess with it. Thanks for helping me out.
[08:07] <theblue> unop: Thanks.
[08:08] <ardchoille> cables: Yes, they all try to change to appear consistant, rather than one be long and another short.
[08:08] <meisam> dabaR hi im back :) sorry can i ask something
[08:08] <dabaR> gortba: you are welcome. ALways check with someone else when running commands with sudo! Like this in a channel is good.
[08:08] <dabaR> meisam: did that install the plugin for you?
[08:08] <gortba> dabaR: Not too important. Life would have been easier though.
[08:08] <yettenet> Um, btw.. where can I change my default charset?
[08:08] <meisam> dabaR yes yesss
[08:08] <dabaR> meisam: sweet.
[08:08] <meisam> dabaR can i ask something else
[08:08] <hitmanWilly> RoboSheep: do you have xsane installed?
[08:08] <RonnyMnemonic> \quit
[08:08] <dabaR> I install taht way, it is easier. Except when it is something custom.
[08:08] <ardchoille> dynamicreflux , cables You can right click on that applet and change the size, BTW
[08:09] <dabaR> !ask | meisam
[08:09] <ubotu> meisam: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:09] <dabaR> ;)
[08:09] <jussi01> RamiKassab:have you tried: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:09] <gortba> dabaR: Sure thing. I will always check with you guys first. Thanks for all of your help and time.
[08:09] <dabaR> gortba: welcome.
[08:09] <dynamicreflux> change the size in the taskbar?
[08:09] <ardchoille> yes
[08:09] <cables> ardchoille, I know, and I understand the consistency thing, but it's still sorta weird about the sizes it ends up as.
[08:09] <yettenet> Asking to ask for help on a support channel is one of the most useless questions in the world
[08:09] <dabaR> yettenet: along with your sentence.
[08:09] <ardchoille> cables: Oh, I agree, it's annoying at times.
[08:10] <yettenet> Yup :)
[08:10] <dabaR> :-P
[08:10] <meisam> dabaR the tomcat 5.5 is installed and comes up on 8081 port properly but the jsp examples do not seem to be compiled corrctly i mean u see the java codes in ur jsp pages, how can i check iftocat is working and configured properly
[08:10] <goban> im trying to change to a 1680X1050 resolution, my XORG.CONF screen is here, what do i change?http://pastebin.com/881940
[08:10] <meisam> ?
[08:10] <gortba> catch you guys later
[08:10] <jussi01> bye gorba
[08:11] <dabaR> meisam: you can follow the tutorial, to do the test thing they show there. Tomcat is something I have not played much with, though, but I have a friend that has:)
[08:11] <newest007> hey how do i resize the fonts for panels?  the default is faaar too small!
[08:11] <meisam> dabaR i have searched alot...im stuck here no idea any moreee
[08:11] <dabaR> newest007: maybe under fonts in system>prefs.
[08:11] <newest007> for example, the top panel which contains applications, places, system etc, i can barely see them
[08:12] <edawg26> dabaR: thanks for your help! turns out my .local directory had somehow been taken over by Root.  I definitely never did that... in any case u lead me to the right answer. Thanks! (I'm the guy with the messed up 'open with' junk)
[08:12] <dabaR> meisam: did you do the test app they show on the tomcat tutorial?
[08:12] <ChaosEddie> newest007: is it resolution?
[08:12] <dabaR> edawg26: I remember, good work.
[08:12] <ChaosEddie> awesome he left
[08:12] <dabaR> haha!
[08:12] <edawg26> dabaR: cause it'd be a shame to boot back into vista ^^.
[08:12] <wazz1> Were is the frame buffer screen resolution setup in Dapper?
[08:12] <dabaR> edawg26: *nod*
[08:13] <goban> im trying to change to a 1680X1050 resolution, my XORG.CONF screen is here, what do i change?http://pastebin.com/881940
[08:13] <cables> !resolution | goban
[08:13] <ubotu> goban: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:13] <dabaR> !fixres | goban
[08:14] <goban> cables: thanks
[08:15] <RamiKassab> jussi01: yes I've gone through that multiple times
[08:16] <RamiKassab> jussi01: do you think using the standard vesa driver may help?
[08:17] <IcemanV9> PwcrLinux: little RAM memory? ;)
[08:17] <xerophyte>  if you have screen windows within screen how can you deattach the inside screen  [screen1 [screen2]  ]  i want to detattach the screen2?
[08:17] <PwcrLinux> IcemanV9: I have 768 MB of ram
[08:17] <jussi01> RamiKassab: maybe - give it a try, Im not 100%
[08:17] <jussi01> you can always change it back
[08:17] <RamiKassab> jussi01: ok I will, doubt it will help though :(
[08:18] <BHSPitMonkey> okay
[08:18] <Spo8> Hi, I have a bit of a crisis here.  I chose the re-size main (windows install) partition option when installing ubuntu but then once the installation finished and I restarted, I got something similar to "DISK READ ERROR. INSERT SYSTEM DISK."  So now not only is my new linux partition not working, but I can no longer get to the menu where I can choose to but into windows.  Can anyone offer some advice?
[08:19] <BHSPitMonkey> so when I use "connect to server..." to connect to a WebDAV share and create a little icon to it on my desktop, is that getting mounted locally somewhere? Or is nautilus just acting as a browser?  I'd like to have programs interacting with the files there, but there's no hope of that unless the share gets mounted locally somewhere.
[08:19] <dabaR> Spo8: boot live CD, go from there, are you talking from another computer?
[08:20] <dabaR> BHSPitMonkey: maybe you can run mount to see whether it is mounted.
[08:20] <PwcrLinux> IcemanV9: I have 768 MB of ram (254/768)
[08:20] <thor_> i have problem turning on direct acceleration on radeon 9200 pro. Does anyone know how can i do it ?
[08:20] <dabaR> !ati > thor_
[08:20] <BHSPitMonkey> dabaR, tried that, didn't see anything.
[08:20] <thor_> dadaR: yes ati
[08:20] <Spo8> dabaR: No, I rebooted on the liveCD and am talking from the computer in question.  It works fine booting from CD, but now I guess it's set to default to ubuntu's multiple OS selection screen instead of the windows one, which I would be fine with, but ubuntu is crashing the second it switches over from BIOS.
[08:21] <dabaR> BHSPitMonkey: maybe you need to mount it then manually if you want to have it mounted. Maybe the ubuntu wiki or help site have info on webDAV
[08:21] <tcpip> can k3b be installed in gnome?
[08:21] <BHSPitMonkey> tcpip, absolutely.
[08:21] <dabaR> Spo8: mount the partitions with Ubuntu and windows, and see whether there is anything on them.
[08:21] <dabaR> !mount > Spo8
[08:22] <tcpip> BHSPitMonkey: gnomebaker took half an hour to burn a 4 gb data dvd.. is that normal
[08:22] <grte_> Does anybody know if there's an app that converts pdf into something viewable in the console?
[08:22] <Spo8> dabaR: so in the terminal, it's !mount C?  sorry, i'm a complete linux noob here.
[08:22] <Steil> how can I find out if my computer is bugged?
[08:22] <tcpip> BHSPitMonkey: thats why i thgt of switching
[08:22] <IcemanV9> PwcrLinux: yeah. that is not the problem.  i dunno why it does spike when loading a page.
[08:22] <paitken> hello all.  i'm having an issue installing ubuntu.  i've tried 6.10 and 7.0 -- I get block errors with 6.1 and on 7, it gets passed the loading screen...then my video looks foobar'd.  THe mouse is just a block of noise...
[08:22] <dabaR> Spo8: read private messages from ubotu, ask more if unclear.
[08:23] <thor_> i have problem turning on direct acceleration on ati radeon 9200 pro. Does anyone know how can i do it ?
[08:23] <Spo8> dabaR: okay, thank you.
[08:23] <BHSPitMonkey> tcpip, anything you get from the ubuntu software repos will (in theory) work, regardless of desktop environment.  I use k3b, I prefer it.   That time doesn't sound unreasonable; it takes me a long time to burn DVD's, too.
[08:23] <dabaR>  neat
[08:23] <tcpip> BHSPitMonkey: thanks
[08:23] <dabaR> grte_: your package manager does. aptitude search pdf
[08:24] <grte_> Did that, didn't come up with anything relevant.
[08:24] <dabaR> grte_: I find it is not very usable, but try it.
[08:24] <PwcrLinux> IcemanV9: yea, probably kernel upgraded in breezy.. let me msg you in prvmsg
[08:24] <dabaR> grte_: aptitude search pdftohtml
[08:25] <grte_> Okay, thanks.
[08:25] <IcemanV9> PwcrLinux: it would be a good idea to say it here; more people can provide solutions/answers to the problem
[08:26] <paitken> anyone?
[08:26] <RoboSheep> I can't get my HP psc 2175 to scan, it prints just fine. I have sane and hplib installed
[08:27] <IcemanV9> PwcrLinux: you can choose the older kernel when you boot up your box (i'm sure you have two or three different version of linux in your grub)
[08:27] <IcemanV9> PwcrLinux: then see if it does spike when it loads a webpage or not.
[08:27] <cables> PwcrLinux, did wireless or graphics break after a kernel update or something?
[08:28] <ndlovu> any suggestions for a good vnc client? gnome-rdp?
[08:28] <PwcrLinux> Cables, the current kernel in breezy:
[08:28] <sancho21> Does Anybody know the best source to create key using openssl? I've been googling and trying to do what those documents said but I still can't have my intention done
[08:28] <ndlovu> vncviewer?
[08:29] <keithhhhh> how do I search the entire drive for a file??
[08:29] <unop> ndlovu,  i like tsclient -- it handles VNC, RDP and a few other protocols
[08:29] <unop> keithhhhh,  via the GUI or command line?
[08:29] <keithhhhh> either
[08:29] <PwcrLinux> cables: even my DVD player show Demuxer missing, I had the DVD player working fine before the kernel upgrades
[08:30] <unop> commad line : locate file   or  find / -name "*file*"
[08:30] <ndlovu> unop, thanks
[08:30] <cables> PwcrLinux, make sure linux-restricted-modules`uname -r` is installed
[08:31] <PwcrLinux> cables: in the breezy? how?
[08:31] <cables> PwcrLinux, "aptitude show linux-restricted-modules`uname -r` | grep State" will tell you if it's installed
[08:31] <ndlovu> ooh, tsclient already installed. how cool.
[08:31] <cables> PwcrLinux, just open a terminal and paste it in (paste using ctrl-shift-v in the terminal)
[08:32] <ChaosEddie> cables: THAT'S why I couldn't paste into terminal
[08:32] <Spo8> dabaR: Uh oh, it isn't finding any partitions.  There's no way that they were formatted, though.  Here's a picture of the terminal's response.   http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5656/mountingproblemswk8.png
[08:32] <onats> hi, can i run my windows installation in another partition using VMWare?
[08:33] <tcpip> onats: i think u can
[08:33] <PwcrLinux> cables: does it'll would install it or just showing only?
[08:33] <IcemanV9> PwcrLinux: it'll show if it is installed or not
[08:33] <tcpip> onats: http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48884
[08:33] <cables> PwcrLinux, shows it
[08:33] <sancho21> What's the most crowded ubuntu mailing list to ask and answer question about networking like openssl?
[08:33] <PwcrLinux> okay hold on
[08:33] <paitken> hello all.  i'm having an issue installing ubuntu.  i've tried 6.10 and 7.0 -- I get block errors with 6.1 and on 7, it gets passed the loading screen...then my video looks foobar'd.  THe mouse is just a block of noise...
[08:34] <ardchoille> cables: Wouldn't that always show it as installed? I mean uname -r? If uname -r command is successful, then it is installed, if it isn't installed, you won't be able to grep it eh?
[08:34] <bella_> http://live-cam.ifrance.com
[08:34] <cables> ardchoille, uname -r works for the kernel version. I'm seeing if his restricted modules matches the kernel version.
[08:34] <Shaffox> how can i remove the mounted partitions from my desktop?
[08:34] <ardchoille> cables: Ah, ok
[08:34] <PwcrLinux> cables: permission denied
[08:35] <cables> Shaffox, alt-f2, gconf-editor
[08:35] <onats> ok, le tme check that out first
[08:35] <pozer> yowzer
[08:35] <cables> PwcrLinux, try the command but put "sudo " in front of it
[08:35] <cables> Shaffox, hold on a sec
[08:36] <cables> Shaffox, once you're in the editor, go to Apps>Nautilus>Desktop and uncheck volumes_visible
[08:36] <onats> is VMWare free for personal use?
[08:37] <PwcrLinux> cables: Hmm nothing, after entered the pwds, got nothing show it
[08:37] <Shaffox> cables, thanks a lot
[08:37] <noodles13> onats: i posted al ink for u in the vmware channel if you wanna check that out too
[08:37] <IcemanV9> onats: player & server are free
[08:38] <cables> PwcrLinux, i screwed up the command
[08:38] <onats> what's not free?
[08:38] <IcemanV9> onats: workstation
[08:38] <Spo8> Can anyone help me with my install and possible wiped disk problem?
[08:38] <koregaonpark> Can someone tell me how to mount my slave HD (/dev/hdb1)?
[08:39] <cables> PwcrLinux, "sudo aptitude show linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` | grep State"
[08:39] <PwcrLinux> cables: okay;
[08:39] <qiyong> is ubuntu alwasy depends on debian?
[08:40] <cables> !debian | qiyong
[08:40] <ubotu> qiyong: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[08:40] <PwcrLinux> cables: state installed
[08:41] <cables> PwcrLinux, I don't know why nvidia broke... but a lot of people have had that problem.
[08:42] <PwcrLinux> cables: I will wait for the LTS live CD comes in for just testing, if the LTS live CD working good, then I could install it..
[08:42] <cables> PwcrLinux, people from all Ubuntu versions have had the problem, but a clean install will probably fix it.
[08:43] <koregaonpark> No one knows?
[08:43] <cables> !mount | koregaonpark
[08:43] <ubotu> koregaonpark: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:43] <seravitae> what port is sshd?
[08:44] <Spo8> Wow, this keeps getting worse.  GParted isn't detecting any partitions, does anyone have any idea how I can recover my windows partition?
[08:44] <Airwulf> hey to you all
[08:44] <PwcrLinux> cables: yea, my first time the DVD player was demuxer missing.. I puzzled, something wrong with DVD player (gxine) and choppy pretty bad, the last checked the DMA still show "on".. possibility kernel gone bad?
[08:44] <Amaranth> qiyong: what do you mean always depends on debian?
[08:44] <tripppy> what a good remtoe desktop app for xubuntu?
[08:44] <Airwulf> How can I disable desktop icons for usb harddiscs?
[08:44] <cables> PwcrLinux, it's probably all a result of the nvidia
[08:45] <cables> Airwulf, you can disable icons for ALL disks, but not just specific ones.
[08:45] <qiyong> Amaranth, ubuntu only/mainly takes packages from debian
[08:45] <hexidigital> seravitae:  22
[08:45] <seravitae> k, thx.
[08:45] <aflack> Hrm.
[08:45] <aflack> I got some error when trying to install xmms.
[08:45] <Amaranth> qiyong: We try to keep the diff as small as possible but we have custom packages
[08:45] <aflack> No matter what it says to install, when I install it, it doesn't work.
[08:45] <cables> Airwulf, to disable drives from showing up, do alt-f2 then "gconf-editor"
[08:46] <Amaranth> qiyong: Some packages in universe aren't in Debian at all, a lot of packages are newer versions than Debian, etc.
[08:46] <cables> Airwulf, then once you're in the editor, go to Apps>Nautilus>Desktop and uncheck volumes_visible
[08:46] <cables> aflack, what error?
[08:46] <PwcrLinux> cables: I am using ATI mobility radaon 7500, I had the 9000 driver since the first installed..
[08:46] <aflack> One second. I'm going to redownload, and try to install it again, to show you the error.
[08:46] <qiyong> Amaranth, and in the future, ubuntu can mainly use its own packages? (not borrowed from debian)
[08:46] <onats> whats the ideal HD Space to install ubuntu?
[08:46] <cables> PwcrLinux, oh, sorry, confused by someone else.
[08:47] <aflack> I deleted it out of frustration. Haha.
[08:47] <qiyong> Amaranth, is it? and is that the aim?
[08:47] <jzl> hello.. can someone tell me how to load the NetworkManager GUI?
[08:47] <onats> i'll probably be able to free up a maximum of 4GB
[08:47] <Amaranth> qiyong: Why would that be the aim?
[08:47] <cables> aflack, does it have something to do with dpkg --configure -a?
[08:47] <seravitae> is there some sort of security package for ubuntu? im a bit worried about opening sshd on my box and having people brute force it or something
[08:47] <Amaranth> qiyong: That's a lot of needless work. Debian has good packages. That's why Ubuntu is based on Debian in the first place.
[08:48] <qiyong> Amaranth, and will ubuntu always based on debian?
[08:48] <aflack> Hopefully.
[08:48] <Amaranth> qiyong: I don't see why not.
[08:48] <aflack> I can find the error.
[08:48] <aflack> configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[08:48] <sancho21> Has anybody installed ejabberd on their local network + internet?
[08:48] <aflack> It's installed..
[08:48] <qiyong> Amaranth, that's good to know, i'm worrying the duplicated efforts
[08:48] <ChaosEddie> if not, then you're cured
[08:49] <aflack> glib has been installed.
[08:49] <aflack> It's saying it's not.
[08:49] <qiyong> Amaranth, btw, can I upgrade from 6.06 into 6.10 or the newest?
[08:49] <extern> has anyone had any issues with fglrx after the update? it says now that direct rendering is not supported
[08:49] <arunkumaran> hello room
[08:49] <Airwulf> cables, thx
[08:49] <cables> Airwulf, no prob
[08:49] <arunkumaran> i started a download on bit-tornado yesterday night and 520 of the 700MB is over
[08:49] <Amaranth> qiyong: gksudo "update-manager -c -d"
[08:49] <arunkumaran> can i continue it at the point i left....
[08:50] <aflack> Any idea?
[08:50] <arunkumaran> the comp was shutdown by cron
[08:50] <Amaranth> qiyong: you'll probably have to upgrade to 6.10 then to the development version
[08:50] <Amaranth> arunkumaran: bittorrent can resume downloads, yes
[08:50] <qiyong> Amaranth, i don't like the new CD re-install, i'd like upgrade smoothly
[08:50] <Amaranth> arunkumaran: Not a good idea to tell people you're downloading movies though. ;)
[08:50] <rpc> hmm... kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out <---what could this mean? got plenty of those in messages
[08:51] <Amaranth> qiyong: I didn't say anything about reinstalling
[08:51] <PwcrLinux> cables: I have "saved_state" in the .gconfd dir, would my system goes haywire, you gave the me first command by mistake?
[08:51] <aflack> cables: I reinstalled glib. Still the same error.
[08:52] <cables> PwcrLinux, my first command didn't do anything...
[08:52] <arunkumaran> Amaranth: actually...bit-tornado isnt working that way...i dont know how to resume it....wen i start the client it asks for the torrent file and if i re-choose the same one im being told that it would have to replace the earlier one....
[08:52] <jzl> Can someone tell me how to get the same taskbar applets running with NetworkManager? (http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2007/02/06/ubuntu-and-wireless-now-better-than-windows/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fevolvedlight.co.uk%2F%3Fp%3D20&frame=true)
[08:52] <cables> aflack, what's the error?
[08:52] <aflack> configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[08:52] <PwcrLinux> cables: okay I guess looks safe for now, doesn't anything writes or something..
[08:52] <extern> FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx, what may be causnig it?
[08:52] <Amaranth> arunkumaran: then bittornado sucks, find a better torrent client :)
[08:53] <cables> jzl, that's the KDE version. The Gnome one looks pretty much the same.
[08:53] <cables> !NetworkManager | jzl
[08:53] <ubotu> jzl: networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[08:53] <qiyong> Amaranth, what command for 6.04 to 6.10 upgrade?
[08:53] <qiyong> Amaranth upgrade-manager?
[08:53] <arunkumaran> Amaranth: yeah..agreed....but does the 520MB go down the drain :(
[08:53] <arunkumaran> Amaranth: im downloading Azureus
[08:54] <jzl> cables, how do I see the GUI?
[08:54] <jzl> ubotu, my wireless works.. I would just like to use the GUI...
[08:54] <cables> jzl, you need to reboot after you install network-manager-gnome
[08:54] <jzl> cables, thats the issue
[08:54] <jzl> thanks man
[08:54] <arunkumaran> and for Email is Thunderbird > Evolution ?
[08:55] <cables> jzl, the new UI thing sometimes doesn't work as well as the original
[08:55] <Amaranth> qiyong: gksudo "update-manager -c -d"
[08:55] <cables> jzl, follow ubotu's guide
[08:55] <cables> !NetworkManager | jzl
[08:55] <ubotu> jzl: networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[08:55] <Amaranth> arunkumaran: azureus should resume the old download
[08:55] <Spo8> I just installed using the resize main partition option and now every one of my partitions is gone, not visible to ubuntu or apparently the BIOS.  i have some essential files on my windows partition that I really need to get to tonight, so any help would be great.
[08:56] <arunkumaran> Amaranth: thanks..
[08:56] <ivx> hey does anyone know how to evolution to go to the system tray?
[08:56] <arunkumaran> Amaranth: and bout the email client -- thunderbird or evolution ?
[08:56] <Amaranth> arunkumaran: I use gmail :)
[08:56] <extern> has anyone had any problems with dark images not being displayed correctly?
[08:56] <Centi> Howdy folks!
[08:57] <arunkumaran> Centi: u from TAMU?
[08:57] <Centi> TAMU ?
[08:57] <Centi> I'm guessing no..
[08:57] <arunkumaran> Centi: Texas A&M University?
[08:58] <paitken> Can anyone help?  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2163937#post2163937
[08:58] <ivx> arunkumaran, i just setup evolution, and it won't go to the system tray by default, that i have figured out
[08:58] <Centi> LOL no sir
[08:58] <arunkumaran> ivx: oh...
[08:58] <Centi> <-- Swedish
[08:58] <arunkumaran> ivx: let me try and then come back here
[08:58] <arunkumaran> Centi: sorry
[08:58] <ivx> arunkumaran, i don't know about thunderbird, okay
[08:59] <seamus7> I just installed Edgy and am installing packages: what is the difference between J2SE and JRE v.5 update 10???
[08:59] <arunkumaran> ivx: ok
[08:59] <Beverage> hey folks, i just installed apache and php5 when i try to load a php document i get {ermission denied in Unknown on line 0
[08:59] <ivx> beverage, that is a problem with your php prolly
[08:59] <unop> Beverage,  well, whats on line 0? :)
[08:59] <Centi> I have 2 stupid questions for you people.. When is the next version of Ubuntu due and where can I download it?
[08:59] <paitken> Beverage: maybe something isn't running as the proper user
[09:00] <unop> !feisty | centi
[09:00] <ubotu> centi: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[09:00] <Beverage> there is no line 0 :P
[09:00] <arunkumaran> Bye room
[09:00] <arunkumaran> catcya soon
[09:00] <seamus7> No one seems to know the difference between the two Java's here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_v5.0_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[09:00] <jzl> cables, I dont see the "staircase" strength indicator :|
[09:01] <ivx> beverage, by default the www folder can only be modified by root, so a app don't be able to read / write
[09:01] <Centi> Ubotu: thank you for not giving me google.com as an answer
[09:01] <qiyong> Amaranth can synaptic do upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 too?
[09:01] <Centi> and thanks for the info
[09:01] <KennyR> hello all
[09:01] <KennyR> I need some guidance here.
[09:01] <Beverage> i did sudo chown -R jon:jon /var/www/
[09:01] <unop> Beverage,  why not? depends if php likes to start counting from 0 or 1 ? :)
[09:01] <Amaranth> qiyong: no
[09:01] <Centi> Damn he was a bot? jesus
[09:02] <cafuego_> unop: it might not be the most popular, but php is *not* visual basic.
[09:02] <unop> Beverage, eh? no wonder -- www-data needs access to that folder
[09:02] <cafuego_> unop: Not write access
[09:02] <unop> cafuego_,  well, ok, fair enough -- but it's not exactly C is it :)
[09:02] <Beverage> unop, so what do i type?
[09:03] <aflack> ?
[09:03] <unop> cafuego_,  it does need read access tho
[09:03] <KennyR> I know Visual Basics very well, I would say that im an Advanced Programmer. And I love Ubuntu so much, that I want to contribute to the Ubuntu community and make some programs.. I have alot of ideas running through my head. What would you recommend me programming with, I read into RealBasic 2007 and it seems promising.. But is there anything else, thats free, because ubuntu beleives in...
[09:03] <cafuego_> unop: No, it's a tad quicker to work in ;-)
[09:03] <KennyR> ...things thats free, right?
[09:03] <SirOSOriS> i read that i need the vmplayer kernel to run a virtual machine on linux. has anyone here tried this? will this kernel override the nvidia kernel?
[09:03] <ivx> beverage you know you can modify permissions with out the command promt
[09:03] <unop> cafuego_,  really? i have no idea
[09:03] <Beverage> yeah i enjoy command prompt
[09:03] <unop> :)
[09:03] <Beverage> because if i did that everything worked fine
[09:03] <cafuego_> KennyR: Perhaps try python; it's not hard to start with.
[09:04] <qiyong> in a new install, root can't login or su to? user can only sudo?
[09:04] <KennyR> isnt that a Web language, cafuego?
[09:04] <unop> Beverage,  what i'd do is log on as www-data (using sudo) and see whether you can change to /var/www
[09:04] <cafuego_> KennyR: Nope
[09:04] <PwcrLinux> cya later all :)
[09:04] <KennyR> cafuego_: could you link me?
[09:04] <ivx> qiyong, the default user is admin privilages, you just have to type password, and use sudo before commands
[09:04] <qiyong> Amaranth,  in a new install, root can't login or su to? user can only sudo?
[09:04] <Amaranth> !sudo | qiyong
[09:04] <ubotu> qiyong: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:04] <Beverage> unop, uhm...yeah i have no idea what to do with that >.<
[09:05] <cafuego_> KennyR: `sudo apt-get install diveintopython'
[09:05] <unop> Beverage,  ok, what does this output? ls -ld /var/www
[09:05] <KennyR> cafuego_: Could I possibly read up on it without installing it?
[09:05] <billybob> unop: hey, got a question for you
[09:05] <qiyong> ivx, so root can't login by default, right?
[09:05] <unop> billybob,  :)
[09:05] <cafuego_> KennyR: Then browse to file:///usr/share/doc/diveintopython/html/index.html
[09:05] <aflack> I get this error when trying to install XMMS: configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[09:05] <Beverage> unop, ls -ld /var/www
[09:05] <aflack> It's already installed.
[09:05] <ardchoille> KennyR: Dive into python is online.
[09:05] <ivx> qiyong, correct
[09:05] <billybob> unop: can i PM you? promise ill make it short . . .
[09:05] <Beverage> unop: drwxr-xr-x 8 jon jon 4096 2007-02-16 00:00 /var/www
[09:06] <unop> billybob,  errm, yea, sure
[09:06] <ivx> qiyong, it is suppost to make things more secure
[09:06] <ardchoille> KennyR: http://www.diveintopython.org/
[09:06] <KennyR> ardchoille: Thanks
[09:06] <ivx> qiyong, it works out to be helpful
[09:06] <qiyong> !update-manager
[09:06] <ubotu> update-manager: GNOME application that manages apt updates. In component main, is optional. Version 0.45 (edgy), package size 775 kB, installed size 3652 kB
[09:06] <KennyR> cafuego_: Thanks to you too..
[09:06] <unop> Beverage,  what is the name of the php script you are trying to exec?  do an ls -ld on it too
[09:06] <KennyR> ill look into it
[09:07] <unop> Beverage,  perhaps also do this -- head -n 1 /var/www/script.php
[09:07] <billybob> unop seems i cant PM you . . .you know any server ops ?
[09:07] <Beverage> unopL: -rwx------ 1 jon jon 4593 2007-02-16 00:00 /var/www/fild1.php
[09:08] <unop> Beverage,  well, there you are, www-data has no exec permissions on fild1.php
[09:08] <aflack> Anyone know why I get that error?
[09:08] <unop> Beverage,  why did you change ownership in that directory?
[09:08] <unop> billybob,  you registered on these servers?
[09:08] <newest007> hey there, ive really found that the gnome desktop top is really rubbish, im going to change to KDE, how do i do this cleanly though? last time i installed KDE alot of gnome stuff was left behind and clogged up my menus
[09:09] <billybob> unop: thats the problem <--- m_billybob. forgot passwd . . .
[09:09] <Beverage> unop, i dno what is the command to just make everything in the folder read/write
[09:09] <blue|palm> Does anybody know if there exists a driver for my Canon MP 160's Scanner?
[09:09] <unop> billybob,  uh oh .. errm, i think you might need to approach the freenode staff
[09:09] <billybob> unop: yeap whcih channel they hang in ?
[09:10] <Frogzoo> newest007: gnome works for me
[09:10] <tcpip> fiest fawn rls date?
[09:10] <DarthLappy> billybob: Are you registered?
[09:10] <ivx> beverage, i think it is 777, dont' hold me to that
[09:10] <newest007> well gnome works np, but i think its really ugly
[09:11] <unop> billybob,  errm, dont really know
[09:11] <dynamicreflux> why does synaptics show that gnome is not installed when im running it all along?
[09:11] <Beverage> so sudo chmod 777 /var/www
[09:11] <ivx> newest, skin it out then
[09:11] <ivx> beverage, i think so
[09:11] <unop> Beverage,  no no -- what you need to do is revert ownership on /var/www/
[09:11] <newest007> im no programer, and the available skins etc are pretty lame
[09:11] <billybob> unop:  . . .
[09:11] <KennyR> What else would someone recommend thats somewhat the same syntax as Visual Basics, besides Python & RealBasic
[09:11] <newest007> no matching etc
[09:11] <seamus7> What version of Java should I install in Edgy?
[09:11] <ivx> newest, you can get more, www.gnome-look.org
[09:12] <Frogzoo> !themes | newest007
[09:12] <ubotu> newest007: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:12] <ivx> newest, mine is so cool, if i may say
[09:12] <dynamicreflux> ivx: any idea why gnome isnt marked in synaptics?
[09:12] <unop> Beverage,  chmod -R www-data:www-data /var/www .. and then add your $USER into the www-data group -- i think you use usermod for that
[09:12] <newest007> yeah tried al of those, but all the goodys is for KDE..
[09:12] <ivx> dynamicreflux, idk, i'll look at mine for ya
[09:12] <dynamicreflux> plz do
[09:12] <newest007> and its straight forward
[09:12] <unop> Beverage,  well, i dont think, i know -- not sure of the exact usermod syntax
[09:13] <Beverage> unop, before chown -R jon:jon /var/www worked fine
[09:13] <seamus7> This is quite difficult. No one ever seems to know which version of Java to install for standard web browsing purposes. Any wise Ubuntu people out there?
[09:13] <billybob> jfc . . .
[09:14] <KennyR> !Programming
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about programming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <dynamicreflux> seamus
[09:14] <dynamicreflux> i installed the regular java in synaptics
[09:14] <dynamicreflux> without a hitch
[09:14] <dynamicreflux> works perfectly
[09:14] <ivx> dynamicreflux, that's because you probably have gnome2
[09:14] <dynamicreflux> o oic ivx, guess that makes sense
[09:14] <dynamicreflux> hah
[09:14] <ChaosEddie> newest007: what happened to you earlier? you asked a question and reset connection before I could answer
[09:15] <unop> Beverage,  well, you could keep that -- and give fild1.php permissions like this -- chmod o+rx fild1.php .. but that makes the file executable by absolutely everyone .. not a good thing to have on a public server
[09:15] <Frogzoo> !java | seamus7
[09:15] <ubotu> seamus7: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:15] <dynamicreflux> ivx btw, what does your theme look like
[09:15] <Beverage> unop, this isnt public and i just want a command that will make my /var/www work so i can drag files in and out and modify how i want and then work on FF
[09:16] <ivx> dynamicreflux, i'll do the screen shot thing for you if you want, it is red
[09:16] <seamus7> thanks
[09:16] <KennyR> Does anyone know of a command for ubotu to list most known programming languages??
[09:16] <dynamicreflux> yea uplload it to imageshack.us
[09:17] <unop> Beverage,  then do what i suggested -- revert ownership, make /var/www/ writable by the www-data group and add $USER into the www-data group
[09:17] <newest007> sorry about that chaoseddie, for some reason the client just closed, having problems with this lately
[09:17] <ivx> dynamicreflux, if you spend an hour max you can really trick it out
[09:17] <ChaosEddie> ah its' okay. i was just wondering.
[09:17] <Frogzoo> KennyR: -> google 'programming languages'
[09:17] <Beverage> how do i add $user to the www-data group?
[09:17] <KennyR> lol
[09:17] <KennyR> forgot about that Frogzoo !
[09:17] <KennyR> =P
[09:18] <cikas> is any rogram in ubuntu similar with dvdshrink?
[09:18] <unop> Beverage,  sudo usermod -G www-data $USER
[09:18] <ChaosEddie> i think it's time for me to hit the sack! nice talking to you all, hearing your problems, fixing your problems, breaking your systems etc. I'll be back tommorow, hopefully. Keep working team.
[09:18] <kondor2> dvdshrink is rated highly with ubuntu and wine
[09:18] <KennyR> haha, ok see ya ChaosEddie
[09:19] <dynamicreflux> dvdshrink works under wine
[09:19] <dynamicreflux> dvdshrink = http://mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/
[09:19] <KennyR> whats the most recommened IRC Client?
[09:20] <coNP> KennyR: I am afraid there is no *most recommended* one, however xchat is a very nice client
[09:20] <blue|palm> Does anybody know whether hp provicde printer drivers for linux or not?
[09:20] <Frogzoo> KennyR: apt-cache search irc
[09:20] <unop> KennyR, whats the most recommended car? :>
[09:20] <KennyR> conP: whats the install command for xchat?
[09:21] <coNP> KennyR: sudo apt-get install xchat in a terminal window
[09:21] <luckymurali> hi to all
[09:21] <KennyR> unop: I like the Pontiac.. but most recommended would be.. erm Ferrari maybe?
[09:21] <luckymurali> hi unfortunately i delete some files from my desktop
[09:22] <luckymurali> i want to restore it
[09:22] <coNP> blue|palm: I doubt if HP provides any but I think most of their printers have well-supported drivers for Linux
[09:22] <luckymurali> hoe to do it?
[09:22] <luckymurali> please tell me
[09:22] <rylan> can someone tell me how to go about installing an ".rpm" file?
[09:22] <unop> KennyR,  you get my point -- it depends on what you like, can afford, want to be seen in, etc .. and different salesmen will have different recommendations .. so its a variable thing :)
[09:22] <meisam> guys does anybody know how i can test tomcat if its working?
[09:22] <KennyR> unop: I know, but I thought id throw a little humor into the question.. =P
[09:22] <coNP> ! alien
[09:22] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:22] <Pie-rate> how do you install gtk2 themes?
[09:22] <CyberSlug> Hello everyone
[09:23] <kondor2> also for dvdshrink at winehq http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5329&iTestingId=7083
[09:23] <CorpseFeeder> i have a computer not booting at all... It is stuck on some sort of drive I/O error and I can find no way to skip past it or correct it. Here is a paste of my problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6072/ How can I fix this?
[09:23] <coNP> ! gnome-art ! Pie-rate
[09:23] <coNP> ! gnome-art | Pie-rate
[09:23] <unop> KennyR,  xchat's pretty decent on gnome (although you'll see people disagree) :)
[09:23] <ubotu> gnome-art: install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-3 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 200 kB
[09:23] <ubotu> pie-rate: please see above
[09:23] <unop> ubotu's getting smarter by the day
[09:23] <luckymurali> pls tell me how to restore the deleted files?
[09:24] <coNP> unop is getting faster :)
[09:24] <KennyR> unop: ill give xchat a try, most people seem to like it.. -from what iv seen.. but im sure theres always people who disagree with everything..
[09:24] <unop> coNP,  :p
[09:24] <coNP> luckymurali: I think there is a Trash folder somewhere ...
[09:24] <rylan> can someone tell me how to go about installing an ".rpm" file?
[09:24] <KennyR> unop: I seen some of the most stupid posts about Windows Versus Linux, when some people would PAY for things in Windows, that they could of free in Linux.. Now my opinion... thats just retarded..
[09:24] <unop> rylan,  alian -d file.rpm ; sudo dpkg -i file.deb .. if i remember right
[09:24] <kondor2> im using xchat, it works, it isnt amazing, it just works
[09:25] <unop> s/alian/alien/, rylan
[09:25] <coNP> sorry Pie-rate, rylan I swapped your nicks, again
[09:25] <rylan> unop, in plain english please. im a nub
[09:25] <UltimateX> I never pay for anything for Windows
[09:25] <UltimateX> All my stuff I get for free
[09:25] <UltimateX> even Windows :-)
[09:25] <luckymurali> but there is no thrash folder
[09:26] <unop> rylan,  are you absolutely 100% sure a debian/ubuntu package doesnt exist for what you want?? what is it named anyway?
[09:26] <luckymurali> Trash folder
[09:26] <kondor2> UltimateX thats the reason I left Windows (yesturday) and came to linux
[09:26] <unop> luckymurali,  try this location -- ~/.Trash
[09:26] <luckymurali> coNP: any other solutions
[09:26] <rylan> unop,  i want to install limewire. i <3 downloading music
[09:26] <CorpseFeeder> is my computer's hard drive kapput?
[09:26] <ardchoille> How do I get a screenshot of tty1?
[09:26] <unop> rylan, ok, you should use frostwire
[09:26] <hastesaver> rylan, the package is called frostwire
[09:26] <unop> !frostwire | rylan
[09:26] <ubotu> rylan: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:26] <KennyR> UltimateX: I have to be honest.. I wont take sides with Linux nor Windows, they both have their ups and downs, and it just depends on what that particular person likes..
[09:27] <Ayabara> anyone using kdbg?
[09:27] <CorpseFeeder> if I get a massive stream of I/O errors from fsck does that mean the drive is shat itself?
[09:27] <kondor2> limewire is listed on winehq http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5522&iTestingId=5316
[09:28] <KennyR> I will say that, I prefer Linux because it has things that windows has and a little more.. and I dont have to srounge around on google just to find some good tools.. that Linux has an add/remove that comes with all the things I need..
[09:28] <desp> hi all
[09:28] <meisam> hi guys this is where i have installed my java jdk 1.6
[09:28] <desp> how can i change the user identd on my xchat please
[09:28] <unop> kondor2,  why use wine on a win32 app when you have a native alternative? the native one is bound to perform better, perhaps faster too
[09:28] <meisam> how can i make the path?
[09:28] <CorpseFeeder> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6072/ is my problem.. is there any point trying to fix this or has it died beyond all repair?
[09:28] <desp> its leopard now and i need to change it to desp
[09:29] <meisam> i wanna put the java in path
[09:29] <hastesaver> meisam, export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/java
[09:29] <kondor2> agreed unop
[09:29] <KennyR> CorpseFeeder: I dont know much about that particular problem, but I had the same one on an old laptop..
[09:29] <KennyR> CorpseFeeder: I just reinstalled ubuntu on it, and all seems well now
[09:30] <meisam> hastesaver i did not get it
[09:30] <unop> meisam,  if you installed java right, java should be in $PATH
[09:30] <hastesaver> meisam, unop is right. How did you install java?
[09:30] <unop> m_billybob,  did you have any lick?
[09:30] <unop> luck* lol
[09:31] <desp> :)
[09:31] <KennyR> lol
[09:31] <meisam> unop i have installed through the installer comes with netbeans IDE from sun.java
[09:31] <eyequeue> how do i get the output of "  set | grep HIST " (that i do see in a console,) to output from a shell script?
[09:31] <desp> any help please
[09:31] <CorpseFeeder> is formatting the drive + reinstall the only viable solution for this?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6072/
[09:31] <kondor2> unop, thanks for the heads up on frostwire
[09:32] <KennyR> CorpseFeeder: I wont answer that question, because im not quite sure.. But thats how I fixed mine..
[09:32] <unop> meisam,  errm, i'm not sure, but does that package contain the java SDK ?
[09:32] <luckymurali> friends pls tell me how to place a trash can in the desktop
[09:32] <unop> eyequeue,  unfortunately $HISTORY is a variable set only in login session -- but why do you want to do that ? maybe i can suggest another workaround
[09:32] <meisam> hastesaver actually im trying to install the tomcat, but i think my java is not in path, or tomcat itself is supposed to be in path ? am i right?
[09:32] <hastesaver> !java
[09:32] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:33] <eyequeue> desp, do you know what exit status 4 is?
[09:33] <KennyR> brb
[09:33] <desp> no , what it is ?
[09:33] <unop> meisam,  errm, what happens when you do this at a command line -- java -v   or java -version ?
[09:34] <CorpseFeeder> i get an exit status 4
[09:34] <CorpseFeeder> from fsck
[09:34] <KennyR> wow..
[09:34] <KennyR> who was it that recommended xchat to me??
[09:34] <eyequeue> unop, <blush> i have a ~/bin/check-this-next-week script, to check something i didn't understand in BASH(1) lol
[09:34] <KennyR> because.. I myself... Love it!
[09:34] <KennyR> X.x
[09:35] <luckymurali> unop: how to place a trash can on the desktop
[09:35] <AWOSLappy> Certain fonts I use regularly are no longer working correctly in KDE-based apps; they work correctly in OOo but not Krita, KolourPaint, ...
[09:35] <desp> eyequeue:
[09:35] <unop> KennyR,  errm, quite a few people did, didn't they?
[09:35] <eyequeue> unop, next line is wc -l ~/.bash_history, heh
[09:35] <AWOSLappy> It looks like the Sans Serif font, which is not even close to the kind of font I'm trying for.
[09:35] <AWOSLappy> Do you need further information; if so, what?
[09:35] <unop> luckymurali,  errm, i'm not really sure, i dont use gnome
[09:36] <eyequeue> unop, i'm trying to figure out how HISTFILE and HISTFILESIZE work when different, and which takes precedence
[09:36] <KennyR> unop, im not quite sure.. but werent you one of them?
[09:36] <luckymurali> please tell me somebody how to place the trashcan on the desktop
[09:36] <Trunkz> Morning folks, small question.. How do I remove startup programs from the session manager through console?
[09:36] <Trunkz> I put beryl and the emerald theme thingy into startup programs, and now x wont start
[09:36] <Trunkz> so I need to remove those
[09:36] <Frogzoo> eyequeue: man bash
[09:37] <unop> eyequeue,  well, they both do different things -- HISTFILE tells bash which file to use (usually ~/.bash_history) . HISTFILESIZE tells bash how many history entries to keep in HISTFILE
[09:37] <eyequeue> unop, ie, does the .bash_history file ever end up larger than the smaller of the two, and the next question is the same, but when i flipflop the values
[09:37] <meisam> unop http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6073/
[09:37] <unop> KennyR,  yes
[09:37] <KennyR> unop, Is there any sound in this though?
[09:37] <Trunkz> anyone? O_o
[09:38] <eyequeue> Frogzoo, that my dear sir, is where this started.  the script was one i wrote myself to teach me empiracaly what i couldn't figure out from reading the man page, it's not clear to even me
[09:38] <meisam> unop can u help me installing tomcat?
[09:38] <eyequeue> Frogzoo, i'm i'm kinda a man-page-first kinda guy, heh
[09:38] <unop> KennyR,  hmm, not sure, i don't think so -- what kinda sounds?
[09:38] <nayyares> hi guys
[09:38] <unop> meisam,  java already exists in your path as it executes there
[09:38] <nayyares> i was thinking that how ubuntu/canonical mange to send cds free to every body , any part of the world?
[09:38] <KennyR> unop, Like a beep when someone says my name..
[09:39] <unop> KennyR,  ahh indeed, if you check out it's preferences, you'll see an option there
[09:39] <eyequeue> unop, but the part where it describes how it does of doesn't truncate, well, i guess it's an esoteric point, but i was curious
[09:39] <KennyR> unop, Thankyou, I see it now.. Are there any default sounds that come with xchat?
[09:39] <CorpseFeeder> i'm going out for a walk... if no one else can suggest anything about http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6072/ by the time I come back, then I will go ahead and reformat, as right now that seems like the only option left to me.
[09:39] <AWOSLappy> The permissions seem to be correctly set: -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 43932 2006-10-01 02:07 Roadgeek 2005 Series EM.ttf
[09:39] <unop> KennyR,  I believe there are plugins you can use with it, i dunno tho
[09:40] <meisam> unop when a jsp file runs and executes the java code appear on we page
[09:40] <unop> eyequeue,  so, have i satisfied the curiosity? or are you still unresolved? :>
[09:40] <eyequeue> unop, Frogzoo, thanks for your interest and time, i just happen to try to learn by doing when i can't learn from docs, so i write weird things, no real need i guess
[09:40] <KennyR> unop, Would you know where xchat is installed?
[09:40] <unop> meisam,  errm, and you using tomcat right? not apache?
[09:41] <KennyR> unop, I mean, what directory?
[09:41] <AWOSLappy> You can download the fonts from here: http://www.triskele.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/Roadgeek2005Fonts.zip
[09:41] <unop> KennyR,  dpkg -L xchat
[09:41] <slippyr4> hi all. does anyone know how modules are mapped to network devices? i'm trying to get my nforce ethernet working, i've loaded the module but no eth0 device exists. any ideas?
[09:41] <kondor2> just had a peak at prefs,  it has all the settings and you can use external progs, but no sound files with it (on mine)
[09:41] <Pie-rate> Ok, I installed a gnome theme that I like, except its a dark theme and it makes forms in websites in firefox look UGLY. is there any way to make firefox ignore the gtk theme when rendering the website?
[09:41] <Frogzoo> CorpseFeeder: lots of luck - you can try reinstalling - the disk looks cactus
[09:41] <AWOSLappy> The fonts USED to work...I used them heavily in KolourPaint around December.
[09:41] <Jowi> KennyR, "whereis progname" is also useful
[09:41] <KennyR> ok thanks Jowi
[09:42] <AWOSLappy> !guildelines
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guildelines - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <dave__> Hi, my screen drivers are really messed up.  I have two screens, one 19" and the other 15" and I want them to both work on linux with the 19" one being the primary screen.  could anyone connect to remote desktop with me and help me sort it out?
[09:42] <AWOSLappy> !guidelines
[09:42] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:42] <eyequeue> unop, still un, but happy :)  i do appreciate it :)
[09:42] <m_billybob> unop: got it worked out finally
[09:42] <MartinSWE> Gahh!  Why does fixing something always have to mean that something else stops working!!!
[09:42] <AWOSLappy> unop can you help me with my fonts problem?
[09:42] <unop> eyequeue,  great :)
[09:42] <unop> m_billybob,  what'd ya have to do to sort it out?
[09:42] <unop> AWOSLappy,  errm, i could try
[09:42] <dave__> MartinSWE: I hear that!
[09:42] <m_billybob> unop: new motherboard, fresh install . . ., im sure you know how it is . . .
[09:43] <eyequeue> MartinSWE, only one other thing stops working?  lucky man :)
[09:43] <Trunkz> unop, how can I edit the file (whichever one it is) that has all the startup programs.. (you know the one for Sytsem -> Preferences -> sessions)
[09:43] <unop> m_billybob,  right, but how about the IRC login issue?
[09:43] <Trunkz> Cos Ubuntu crashes when it tries to load X..
[09:43] <m_billybob> fixed.
[09:43] <m_billybob> i found a staffer
[09:43] <KennyR> Where can I find some alternative sound files? xchat doesnt come with any..
[09:44] <unop> Trunkz,  errm, i think it might be this directory containing quite a few files , one for each startup entry -- ~/.gnome2/autostart/*
[09:44] <Jowi> AWOSLappy, try updating the font cache, log out and in again. "sudo fc-cache -fv"
[09:44] <m_billybob> this server is different from the one i used to IRCoper on, took me a bit to find a way around all the +m channels ;)
[09:44] <Trunkz> ahh thanks..
[09:44] <AWOSLappy> jowi: it works in OpenOffice.org right now...I have a file OPEN with THESE fonts on them.
[09:44] <Trunkz> How do I get into my ubuntu distro, without having to goto X
[09:44] <MartinSWE> i just installed xbindkeys to get my keyboard volume control buttons to work, it works great but now everytime i press Ctrl + F to serch a webpage in firefox i get som wierd grey console that is automatically logged in as root.. very strange..
[09:44] <AWOSLappy> jowi...so could that even matter if OOo works?
[09:45] <unop> Trunkz,  errm, no, this one :) ~/.config/autostart
[09:45] <wootz> Hey, I got a vps server with ubuntu and i seen proftpd wasn't in my package manager and with my VPS server i only have 4 gb free.. so i would hate to change my source list's and it use all my space in other apps so i was wondering is there any sites that shows how to install proftpd from command line?
[09:45] <eyequeue> KennyR, weak advice warning ... i found some one night via google searching, when i was curious, didn't find anything i liked that was worth the time searching after all imo, heh
[09:45] <wootz> or whats some other ways i could go by?
[09:45] <Jowi> AWOSLappy, don't know. a bit strange. what prog is not accepting the font?
[09:45] <Trunkz> thx :p
[09:45] <m_billybob> love the motherboard too :)
[09:45] <AWOSLappy> jowi: KDE apps.  don't say #kubuntu...I waited 15 minutes there with no response.
[09:46] <KennyR> eyequeue, Did you come across anything in the mean-time, or are you currently using ANY sounds?
[09:46] <eyequeue> KennyR, but the thing is, any irc sound file is fine, it doens't need to be xchat-specific
[09:46] <unop> Trunkz,  address the person you are talking to, otherwise you might confuse people or get your posts lost in the busy channel :)
[09:46] <KennyR> eyequeue, I dont have any sound files, this is a fresh install with some installs, and some removes, so I dont beleive I have any..
[09:46] <unop> Trunkz,  did you ask me that? how can i goto X ?
[09:47] <KennyR> eyequeue, You could always send some sound files over, via IRC, couldnt you??
[09:47] <eyequeue> KennyR, so homer simpson for a mirc user is probably the same as for an xchat user ... no, i'm not that into sounds really, was the problem
[09:47] <Jowi> AWOSLappy, hmmm, no idea about kde specific things unfortunately. if gtk apps work I would guess kde/qt apps would as well.
[09:47] <Trunkz> unop, no need :p
[09:47] <AWOSLappy> jowi OOo == gtk?!
[09:47] <KennyR> oh, ok, thanks anyways eyequeue
[09:47] <unop> Trunkz,  ok :)
[09:47] <Trunkz> I just mounted my ubuntu partition.. so gonna try and find wher that config/.autostart hting is
[09:48] <Jowi> AWOSLappy, I think OOo is built on something else.
[09:48] <KennyR> eyequeue, I like sounds, because I just dont feel right when its all quiet, and I can hear my ears ringing... rather annoying really..
[09:48] <AWOSLappy> jowi: I am downloading Kword to see if it works.
[09:48] <Jowi> AWOSLappy, try mousepad, gedit or abiword.
[09:48] <unop> Trunkz,  if you want a simple command to be run when an X session starts -- it's better to use ~/.xinitrc
[09:48] <AWOSLappy> jowi: so far I have only tested KolourPaint and Krita.
[09:48] <eyequeue> KennyR, yeah, that direct c-something c-comething send command, if i had them i think i could send ... you'd probably need to do some "allow" command on freenet, but i don't know the syntax myself
[09:49] <Trunkz> unop, where is that .config folder? I cant find it.. (I'm in the root directory of the ubuntu partition)
[09:49] <eyequeue> KennyR, oh, an idea!
[09:49] <AWOSLappy> jowi: AbiWord...wow Ubuntu offers that?  I haven't seen that since Red Hat 9 :P
[09:49] <KennyR> eyequeue, im listening.
[09:49] <AWOSLappy> jowi: will Kword be suitable or would you rather me use abiword?
[09:49] <unop> Trunkz,  under your home folder (~/) ... /home/$USER/.config/autostart
[09:49] <Trunkz> okey
[09:50] <AWOSLappy> unop: ooh there's an autostart?  does it work with kdm?
[09:50] <eyequeue> KennyR, dig through /usr/share/sounds (browse with a player) and steal sounds from other apps for use in xchat!
[09:50] <MartinSWE> does anyone know what this strange looking console is and why it starts everytime i press "Ctrl +F" ?? http://www.margus.se/strange.png
[09:50] <ubuntu> I need help figuring out how to install grub to a mounted partition from a live cd
[09:50] <AWOSLappy> KennyR you could always listen to music.
[09:50] <eyequeue> KennyR, nothing says a game app's sounds aren't fair game on your own machine :)
[09:51] <KennyR> eyequeue, lol, your absolutely right..
[09:51] <Jowi> AWOSLappy, It would be nice to test if the problem is kde specific. kwrite is written for kde - mousepad, abiword or gedit uses gtk.
[09:51] <unop> AWOSLappy,  well, all X sessions can use ~/.xinitrc .. i dunno about ~/.config/autostart tho, that looks very gnomish .. but i am sure there's a KDE one too you could use some smoke-and-mirrors to find out
[09:51] <AWOSLappy> MartinSWE: that's xterm
[09:51] <Trunkz> that shud work now. .lemme restart xD
[09:51] <KennyR> AWOSLappy, I dont really have the money to buy any music cds, and my internet is too slow to support streaming.. the only alternative is P2P.. but thats illegal.
[09:51] <MartinSWE> AWOSLappy, what is it used for?
[09:51] <AWOSLappy> MartinSWE which I haven't seen since Red Hat 5 (1998) so thanks for the blast from the past!
[09:51] <AWOSLappy> MartinSWE it's like gnome-terminal.  but it's realllllly old
[09:51] <eyequeue> KennyR, but any "*.wav" on any web site out there is probably fair game to many non-lawyer types too ;-)
[09:51] <AWOSLappy> KennyR ah.
[09:52] <AWOSLappy> jowi okay
[09:52] <ubuntu> Can somebody PLEASE help me install grub to a mounted partition from a live cd?
[09:52] <AWOSLappy> unop okay thanks.
[09:52] <mneptok> AWOSLappy: i use xterm every day :)
[09:52] <AWOSLappy> mneptok really?  wow :D
[09:52] <KennyR> eyequeue, Your right, but I think their more after the criminal downloading pirated music type..
[09:52] <AWOSLappy> I used it in SuSE 9.1 when KDE broke.
[09:52] <Jowi> xterm rocks
[09:52] <AWOSLappy> then I switched to Ubuntu :D
[09:52] <KennyR> eyequeue, I dont think youll get much jail time for downloading a Simpsons theme song..
[09:52] <mneptok> ubuntu: that process is described in step-by-step detail on the wiki
[09:52] <AWOSLappy> KennyR lol :P
[09:52] <eyequeue> KennyR, and i wasn't talking like a song, just some beepy thing on someone's page, you don't want things more than a couple seconds i figure
[09:52] <MartinSWE> AWOSLappy, hmm prehaps it snuck in with xbindkeys when i installed it..
[09:53] <KennyR> eyequeue, Your absolutely right.
[09:53] <AWOSLappy> MartinSWE yeah, it's possible.
[09:53] <AWOSLappy> jowi :D  yes it does rock.
[09:53] <Jowi> KennyR, no, but you will be condemned to Hell lol
[09:53] <KennyR> Jowi, Lol, I figure im going there anyways.. =P
[09:53] <mneptok> MartinSWE: xterm is in main. it's a default app.
[09:53] <eyequeue> KennyR, i'magine if your "someone said my name" sound was ThemeSong.wav, in this conversation, for example
[09:54] <KennyR> eyequeue, im not sure I understood that last bit..
[09:54] <AWOSLappy> mneptok: really!?
[09:54] <mneptok> sounds and IRC go together like a fluffy kitten and the surface of the sun.
[09:55] <KennyR> mneptok, LMAO!!!
[09:55] <fixius> ls
[09:55] <fixius> ll
[09:55] <AWOSLappy> mneptok hahahaha
[09:55] <AWOSLappy> m_billybob -- Core 2 or Athlon?
[09:55] <KennyR> mneptok, Yeah, I just need a small beep so I know when someones talking to me though..
[09:56] <eyequeue> KennyR, lol, i put the Seinfeld bass guitar thing as a song on my personal playlist one day, and a friend was over, she ;aughed histarically, it's "short" comapred to my music collection songs, but face it, if it started playing every five lines worth of irc scroll, you'd go insance, it's too too long
[09:56] <seamus7> Is GStreamer equivalent, worse or better than MPlayer? I'm just now installing packages and want to enable all the poopular codecs.
[09:56] <MartinSWE> mneptok, when i installed xbindkeys it sudenly started apearing when i press "Ctrl +F" on my keyboard even though there is no such shortcut defined in either xbindkeys nor in the gnome-keybinding-properties.. any idea why?
[09:56] <mneptok> KennyR: use the GAIM notification sound
[09:56] <KennyR> mneptok, Thats what eyequeue recommended..
[09:56] <mneptok> MartinSWE: ~/.profile ?
[09:56] <eyequeue> insane
[09:56] <fixius> anyone here any good with XGL on edgy for dual monitors?
[09:57] <fixius> i'm having problems getting the session to work
[09:57] <AWOSLappy> wheee
[09:57] <Jowi> seamus7, it's different. haven't decided if one is better than the other... mplayer, xine or gstreamer
[09:57] <AWOSLappy> mneptok: thank you!  http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2126/xtermcs0.png
[09:57] <m_billybob> AWOSLappy: AM2 3800+
[09:57] <KennyR> lol how right you are eyequeue
[09:57] <AWOSLappy> m_billybob *drool* :)
[09:57] <seamus7> Jowi: do you just end up installing pretty much all of them?
[09:57] <m_billybob> AWOSLappy: yeah well, im waiting on the cash for an opty ;) thats what im drooling over :)
[09:57] <m_billybob> 1214 i think
[09:57] <Pie-rate> I changed my gtk2 theme to a darker one, and it affects websites in firefox as well. is there any way to fix that?
[09:57] <eyequeue> KennyR, yeah, i think i also found some useful still in the gnomemeeting package (which was instaled, but i never use, so the sounds are all "new" to me anyway, no meaning attached yet
[09:58] <AWOSLappy> m_billybob ooooh Opteron64...MP?
[09:58] <Airwulf> Can I get the device from a folder like (/dev/sdb1 mountet to /home)  and know I need to know on which device /home/test is
[09:58] <m_billybob> AWOSLappy: AM2 64 bit opteron
[09:58] <AWOSLappy> Airwulf type "mount | grep /home/test"
[09:58] <KennyR> eyequeue, lol.. keyword: yet
[09:58] <Jowi> seamus7, I use them all for different things. gstreamer because that's what Quod Libet (best music player yet) wants. I use mplayer for my Freevo install and xine (totem-xine) for when I want to play a clip.
[09:58] <eyequeue> KennyR, anything that's communication oriented probably has ideal sounds, download something that you don't use, steal the sounds, and delete the package
[09:59] <m_billybob> hmmm/me noticed his time is off
[09:59] <AWOSLappy> Fri Feb 16 03:59:07 EST 2007
[09:59] <AWOSLappy> ^ m_billybob
[09:59] <KennyR> eyequeue, *browsing through the sounds folder as we speak*
[09:59] <m_billybob> PST would be 1 am then
[09:59] <m_billybob> (approx.)
[09:59] <seamus7> Jowi: which do you use as a browser media plugin?
[09:59] <eyequeue> KennyR, and you know they're all totally legal sounds, being in a package
[09:59] <AWOSLappy> m_billybob yeah... what do you have?
[09:59] <KennyR> =D
[09:59] <KennyR> eyequeue, LOL I found the login sound..
[09:59] <Jowi> seamus7, none. hate media in browsers.
[10:00] <KennyR> eyequeue, If I change a sound, would it use the new sound on login?
[10:00] <AWOSLappy> Fri Feb 16 04:00:01 EST 2007
[10:00] <nevron> how can i learn which sound device i am currently using?
[10:00] <Frogzoo> Pie-rate: tools -> addons -> themes maybe
[10:00] <AWOSLappy> ^ now it's officially 1am, m_billybob :D
[10:00] <m_billybob> 1 am now ;)
[10:00] <MartinSWE> mneptok, aha! Found the shortcut in xbindkeys and fixed it, didnt see it at first because the "code" was written in keyboard key numbers or what ever its called..
[10:00] <m_billybob> funny, i have time service running
[10:00] <MartinSWE> thanks for the help anyway!
[10:00] <Jowi> seamus7, I launch totem-xine if i need to look at a clip from the web :)
[10:00] <m_billybob> AWOSLappy: this is my Windows XP box . . .
[10:00] <AWOSLappy> MartinSWE: they are called scancodes   :)
[10:00] <eyequeue> KennyR, just some thoughts, but you notice i didn't really point you to any real xchat sounds?  so technically i didn't answer, lol, i love this channel
[10:00] <m_billybob> gaming rig.
[10:00] <seamus7> Jowi: ok thx
[10:00] <AWOSLappy> m_billybob :P
[10:01] <KennyR> eyequeue, LOL
[10:01] <m_billybob> i leave all the hard stuff like iSCSI, and Samba etc, up to my linux box ;)
[10:01] <AWOSLappy> m_billybob :D
[10:01] <AWOSLappy> jowi: uhoh.
[10:01] <AWOSLappy> jowi: I went to Format->Font in KWord.  it had Sans Serif highlighted...when I clicked on my font...no change in appearance :-(
[10:01] <m_billybob> ;)
[10:01] <eyequeue> KennyR, if the one i'm thinging you mean, yeah, you could then hear DuckJob.wav on every X signin :)
[10:02] <Jowi> btw, anyone is running edgy on a intel mac mini and got the internal speaker to work?
[10:02] <AWOSLappy> m_billybob ;)  try BSD yet?  :P
[10:02] <KennyR> =P
[10:02] <m_billybob> yeah years ago, i like the Ubuntu debian like 'install' method best. But I also love the SabayonLinux LiveCD, looks really good for a linux Desktop
[10:02] <AWOSLappy> jowi: So...I ran KWord from the terminal / Konsole
[10:03] <m_billybob> debian like system, got to love it
[10:03] <AWOSLappy> lol @ quit message [04:02]  <-- LordSkylark has left this server ("Computers are like air conditioners - They can't do their job properly if you open windows!").
[10:03] <AWOSLappy> ^ I love that.
[10:03] <m_billybob> lol
[10:03] <m_billybob> man
[10:03] <m_billybob> you know what
[10:03] <AWOSLappy> m_billybob what?
[10:03] <AWOSLappy> jowi: the message on stderr is couldn't open fontconfigs chosen font with Xft!!!
[10:03] <m_billybob> without sounding like a spokeperson for the darkside, i really dont see what the problem, this box has had months uptimes
[10:03] <n4cht> what's the easiest way to check what network interfaces your system is capable of?
[10:03] <m_billybob> spokeperson*
[10:03] <KennyR> eyequeue, Give me a sound-check.. say my name..
[10:04] <AWOSLappy> m_billybob s/spoke/spokes/  :P
[10:04] <m_billybob> yeah . . .
[10:04] <Jowi> AWOSLappy, first time I've seen a message like that. sorry
[10:04] <eyequeue> KennyR, 1 2 3
[10:04] <KennyR> hmm
[10:04] <Tomcat_> AWOSLappy: lol, good one ;)
[10:04] <KennyR> the beep didnt work
[10:04] <AWOSLappy> m_billybob yeah.  My Windows 2000 box provided me with 53 days.  my Linux box?  107 days :D
[10:04] <AWOSLappy> Tomcat_ :)
[10:04] <AWOSLappy> jowi: aw.
[10:04] <AWOSLappy> jowi: should I go to #KDE since #kubuntu is dead?
[10:04] <m_billybob> AWOSLappy: my saying is, its not the OS, but that *thing* between the chair, and keyboard ;)
[10:05] <m_billybob> (user)
[10:05] <eyequeue> KennyR, xchat is weird, some things it requires you quit and restart the app.  not sure if this is one of those or not
[10:05] <jussi01> PRBKAC
[10:05] <xenophile7x7> PEBKAC!
[10:05] <AWOSLappy> m_billybob PEBKAC!  (Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair)
[10:05] <jussi01> PEBKAC
[10:05] <AWOSLappy> we all screamed pebkac :P
[10:05] <Jowi> AWOSLappy, think you better. could the font be corrupted?
[10:05] <kane77> a bit of programming question, what are the columns in unix output (eg from ls command) separated with..)
[10:05] <m_billybob> hehehe
[10:05] <AWOSLappy> jowi: no, remember OOo works?
[10:05] <KennyR> eyequeue, what would it be under, when someone says my name.. I assumed 'beep'
[10:05] <m_billybob> AWOSLappy: like those people comming in here asking howto setup php/apache up as root ;)
[10:05] <m_billybob> lmao
[10:05] <emo> guys I have a question, I'd put my google.com/linux as my first page in my browser however I can't open and always when try I got that error 403 forbidden what that means ? before was fine
[10:05] <leagris> hello
[10:05] <AWOSLappy> m_billybob haha
[10:05] <eyequeue> KennyR, ahhhhhh, your uner one os the System menu items, aren;t you?
[10:06] <eyequeue> KennyR, under one of
[10:06] <KennyR> eyequeue, ??
[10:06] <AWOSLappy> emo: www.google.com, not google.com
[10:06] <AWOSLappy> anyways bye!
[10:06] <KennyR> eyequeue, Wait.. I found the option
[10:06] <eyequeue> KennyR, you want a setting in the xhat-itself menus, let me poke around and find it, if no one chimes in
[10:06] <leagris> About anacron. I encounter a possible bug I'd like to report/track but it is not in Launchpad. Where should I go for that?
[10:06] <AWOSLappy> bye m_billybob!
[10:07] <KennyR> eyequeue, Ok
[10:07] <m_billybob> you leaving ?
[10:07] <cyphase> I've been thinking of putting up fliers at the local community college offering installation and configuration services for Ubuntu, at a price. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas of what I should put on it? Does anyone know of someone else doing this?
[10:07] <KennyR> actually eyequeue
[10:07] <AWOSLappy> m_billybob yeah, it's 4am here remember?  :P
[10:07] <keith> can someone remind me how to run a .sh script
[10:07] <KennyR> eyequeue, say my name again
[10:07] <AWOSLappy> keith: ./name
[10:07] <m_billybob> sleep well !
[10:07] <AWOSLappy> m_billybob you too :)
[10:07] <keith> AWOSLappy: hmm I tried that Ill try again
[10:07] <leagris> keith, sh whateverscript
[10:07] <AWOSLappy> keith: the first line should be:   "#!/bin/sh"
[10:07] <coNP> keith: either give that execute permissions or start via the interpreter (e.g. sh <script>)
[10:07] <eyequeue> KennyR, Settings > Preferences > Chatting > Sound
[10:07] <emo> AWOSLappy: I know man that problem is something else
[10:08] <KennyR> eyequeue, Got it working..
[10:08] <mneptok> #!/bin/bash
[10:08] <eyequeue> KennyR, groovy
[10:08] <m_billybob> mneptok: about rsync . . .
[10:08] <bwilson> how do i disable this sudo thing?  i want to be able to su to root
[10:08] <eyequeue> KennyR, what file did you use?   something short?
[10:08] <KennyR> eyequeue, Was under Chatting > General > and Beep on highlighted messages was unchecked
[10:08] <mneptok> bwilson: please don't
[10:08] <KennyR> yeah..
[10:08] <Jowi> !sudo | bwilson
[10:08] <ubotu> bwilson: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:08] <bwilson> mneptok: why not?
[10:08] <KennyR> eyequeue, It was info.wav or something
[10:08] <leagris> according to /etc/anacrontab it never go to /etc/cron.dayly/ Is tha a bug or something apt-configurable?
[10:09] <ardchoille> bwilson: That isn't supported configuration and can make your system less secure.
[10:09] <KennyR> eyequeue, I found it inside the sounds folder you told me about.
[10:09] <mneptok> bwilson: because sudo is far more secure
[10:09] <emo> AWOSLappy: look that that is what my browser show up :    We're sorry...
[10:09] <emo>     ... but your query looks similar to automated requests from a computer virus or spyware application. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now.
[10:09] <emo>     We'll restore your access as quickly as possible, so try again soon. In the meantime, if you suspect that your computer or network has been infected, you might want to run a virus checker or spyware remover to make sure that your systems are free of viruses and other spurious software.
[10:09] <eyequeue> bwilson, you don't want to disable sudo, you might want to enable root password, instructions (and reasons) here (watch the bot)
[10:09] <emo>     We apologize for the inconvenience, and hope we'll see you again on Google.
[10:09] <Bryann> what difference between using sudo or su?
[10:09] <m_billybob> mneptok: when i said the other night, those params yo ugave me worked, well, only partially, when the files already exist, in the destination directory, it works, if they are not there, it still tried to copy everything
[10:09] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > bwilson
[10:09] <TheHerbalizer> so i tried installing debian on sda (having ubuntu installed on hda), and i think i moved grub off hda. i'd like to get it back there. assuming i dont care about what happens to the debian install on sda, how do i go about doing this?
[10:09] <Bryann> end result is =
[10:09] <mneptok> m_billybob: that's bizarre
[10:10] <eyequeue> Bryann, sudo is basically safer, su does some things that some programmers may want i suppose
[10:10] <m_billybob> mneptok: includes with rsync are case sensative ?
[10:10] <emo> AWOSLappy: I know what I mean now ?
[10:10] <jussi01> !grub | TheHerbalizer
[10:10] <ubotu> TheHerbalizer: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:10] <Jowi> emo, AWOSLappy's gone to bed
[10:10] <mneptok> m_billybob: yes
[10:10] <KennyR>  AWOSLappy (n=awilcox@unaffiliated/awosdev) has left #ubuntu ("Check out #AWOS -- Holy cow, I'm [[White & Nerdy] ] ! -- I'm a Wikipedian and proud! -- me <3 Linux -- #Kubuntu FTW!")
[10:10] <leagris> Bryann, sudo gives you a root session cooky permission to run listed allowed commands and it expires. Whereas su bring you to the root account shell without any controlable restrictions
[10:11] <m_billybob> mneptok: anyhow, im willing to bet, its an Edgy glitch / bug
[10:11] <emo> Jowi: you undertood my problem ?
[10:11] <n4cht> so... does anyone know the answer?  what's the easiest way to check what network interfaces your system is capable of?
[10:11] <emo> Jowi: what's is that man ?
[10:11] <m_billybob> mneptok: there are a lot of Edgy bugs, so it wouldnt surprise me.
[10:11] <Jowi> emo, I wasn't following what you were doing
[10:11] <m_billybob> udev causing IET (iSCSI), and Xen not to function correctly forstarters
[10:11] <Bryann> hmm it hasn't (sudo) caused me any problems yet
[10:12] <emo> Jowi: cool I gonna explain to you
[10:12] <cyphase> i don't know if my last message went through, so here it goes again..
[10:12] <emo> Jowi: okay ?
[10:12] <eyequeue> Bryann, both can hose your system totally if you're not careful of course, i didn't mean to imply that any type of rooting is "safe" heh
[10:12] <m_billybob> bbiaf
[10:12] <kane77> a bit of programming question, what are the columns in unix output (eg from ls command) separated with..??
[10:12] <cyphase> I've been thinking of putting up fliers at the local community college offering installation and configuration services for Ubuntu, at a price. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas of what I should put on it? Does anyone know of someone else doing this?
[10:12] <Jowi> emo, sure
[10:12] <eyequeue> kane77, as in spaces vs tabs?  spaces i believe
[10:13] <kane77> eyequeue, yes that's what I meant...
[10:13] <KennyR> cyphase, Why charge, ubuntu is a 'free' community.. its better that way..
[10:13] <Bryann> I think it would depend on your market cyphase
[10:13] <KennyR> cyphase, Do it for the community, just like the community does it for you...
[10:13] <TheHerbalizer> jussi01: thanks, hopefully this works
[10:13] <cyphase> KennyR: same reason Canonical charges for support
[10:13] <Bryann> I generally charge 75 hr to work on someone's machine
[10:13] <eyequeue> cyphase, sounds like i've read that question on the forums maybe.  my personal feeling is probably differs a lot from one location to the next
[10:13] <ardchoille> kane77: Try this: echo "this is a " \ "test"
[10:13] <kane77> eyequeue, so only the same number of spaces? (I need that for parsing the output)
[10:13] <jussi01> TheHerbalizer: No probs mate -
[10:14] <KennyR> cyphase, Not to be cruel, but thats just making it harder for people..
[10:14] <jmazaredo> i get ide : failed opcode was : unknown     while installing 6.10  why i get this error
[10:14] <KennyR> cyphase, Its better to help one another for free..
[10:14] <Bryann> but I GIVE u/kubuntu cds to the public library
[10:14] <emo> Jowi: right my browser was working fine but today I open it and I got that message 403 forbidden, so I can't open www.google.com/linux
[10:14] <cyphase> KennyR: i do help people for free
[10:14] <Bryann> and will take emails to help
[10:14] <cyphase> mostly friends
[10:14] <Jowi> emo, clear the cache and the cookies and try again...?
[10:14] <cyphase> KennyR: but i can't spend all my time helping people for free
[10:14] <KennyR> cyphase, Thats good.. so why dont you just get a job then?
[10:14] <cyphase> you have to have money
[10:14] <KennyR> cyphase, keep ubuntu free
[10:14] <cyphase> KennyR: i'm not charging for the CD
[10:15] <KennyR> cyphase, Why!?!? Many other people do..
[10:15] <nevron> anybody who can help me configure my logitech mouse?
[10:15] <eyequeue> kane77, man there really must be a definitive place to look that up, but i can't think of where.  all i can really say is experiment before you do anything irrevocable
[10:15] <ardchoille> cyphase: You aren't in the Seattle WA area are you?
[10:15] <stevr1it> hello, i need someone to help me step by step in a very difficult operation. I need to move teh root to another hard disk which has only 2 partitions, one in windows and one ext3 with the home of uubuntu 6.10
[10:15] <bluefox83> where can i get the public key for beryl?
[10:15] <cyphase> ardchoille: no
[10:15] <jmazaredo> also end_request : i/o error, dev hdd, sector 1259296 while installing can anyone help me
[10:15] <bluefox83> !beryl
[10:15] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:15] <Frogzoo> !mouse | nevron
[10:15] <ubotu> nevron: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[10:15] <cyphase> KennyR: why is charging for my time wrong?
[10:16] <nevron> frogzoo i tried everythin in the ubuntu forums i am not able to make it work thanks though
[10:16] <KennyR> cyphase, Because this community is free, and everybody likes it that way... EVERYONE in here is helping each other for free.. Their NOT charging..
[10:16] <walla> could anyone give me a hand with converting audio files from m4a to mp3?
[10:16] <emo> Jowi: doesn't work I did try to open with another browser but didn't work.
[10:16] <KennyR> cyphase, If you need money and want to help do something, get a real job.. Like at a hospitol or something..
[10:16] <cyphase> KennyR: and i help people in here when i can as well. and i help my friends for free. but i can't help everybody for free
[10:16] <Jowi> KennyR, power to cyphase if (s)he can get paid doing what (s)he like.
[10:16] <stevr1it> who will be so kind to help me? i don't dare to do t by myself
[10:16] <Bryann> well I do do a few charging 140 us but that includes a Crossover license and reinstalling their essential win32 programs
[10:16] <cyphase> Jowi: he :)
[10:16] <pavs> any tutorial for installing dynamic ip with registered domain name with apache on ubuntu?
[10:16] <emo> Jowi: any ideal what could be ?
[10:17] <KennyR> Jowi, I just think its wrong, that you should charge for helping another person..
[10:17] <Frogzoo> nevron: which mouse?
[10:17] <nevron> logitech mx 500
[10:17] <KennyR> Jowi, The whole point of helping someone is to do something nice for one another.. with no price..
[10:17] <cyphase> KennyR: why is helping people with ubuntu not a "real" job? do i have to have an office?
[10:17] <Frogzoo> nevron: just a mo
[10:17] <jussi01> !offtopic
[10:17] <KennyR> Jowi, Otherwise.. it isnt 'help' at all.. its just a service..
[10:17] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:17] <eyequeue> cyphase, this is discussed on the web site i believe, and i've seen it become a heated debate sometimes, some places :)  i hope it won't here :)  but it is allowed, but it also goes against many individuals idea of "right" so just know it can be a "hot" topic? :)  thanks
[10:17] <nevron> thnak you frogzoo
[10:17] <CorpseFeeder> ok... apparently my drive looks like cactus, so I'll reformat and see what goes pear-shaped
[10:17] <KennyR> cyphase,  Otherwise.. it isnt 'help' at all.. its just a service..
[10:17] <cyphase> KennyR: what do you do for a living?
[10:17] <bluefox83> !automatix
[10:17] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:17] <Jowi> KennyR, you can't work for free forever.
[10:17] <mackinac> well if people want to pay for the service...
[10:18] <KennyR> cyphase, Im in construction, real-estate, etc
[10:18] <cyphase> KennyR: do you build/sell houses?
[10:18] <pavs> any tutorial for installing dynamic ip with registered domain name with apache on ubuntu?
[10:18] <KennyR> cyphase, I earn my money..
[10:18] <KennyR> cyphase, Yes I do..
[10:18] <emo> Jowi: ?
[10:18] <AbsintheSyringe> quick question, I'm not familiar with ubuntu, what's the minimum configuration?
[10:18] <eyequeue> cyphase, did i say that clearly enough, and non-offensively?  (this is why i'm not an op lol)
[10:18] <unop> pavs,  what exactly do you want to do?
[10:18] <KennyR> cyphase, But im not 'helping' them by building their house.. Im doing it for service
[10:18] <ardchoille> KennyR , cyphase Perhaps this needs to go to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[10:18] <AbsintheSyringe> I want t install ubuntu on my friends 800mhz and 128mb ram