[06:51] <ezzieyguywuf> how do you check which version of ubuntu your running (in the command prompt)
[06:51] <arrrghhh> uname -r is the kernel
[06:51] <nickrud> Suicide_Guy2go: http://pastebin.ca/722623 , put that at the end of /boot/grub/menu.lst, after the line with AUTOMAGIC in it, so it's not touched by update-grub
[06:51] <tronus> hey all... is there a way to reset gnome back to default... i saved my session and logged out... not i can log back in
[06:51] <tronus> now i cant i mean
[06:51] <lumpycam> exec debian_version
[06:52] <skinnypuppy1334> Amaranth: when you refer to without password do you mean the ssh_config setting ?
[06:52] <lumpycam> oops, sorry
[06:52] <nrdb> is it posible to control what option the 'disk mounter' applet uses to mount drives ?
[06:52] <arrrghhh> nrdb: editing fstab
[06:52] <ezzieyguywuf> i sudo apt-get upgrade and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade but when i lsb_release -a it still says feisty
[06:52] <Amaranth> skinnypuppy1334: I mean using public/private keys to do a secure passwordless login
[06:52] <ezzieyguywuf> is restart recquired?
[06:52] <ezzieyguywuf> (also said 0 packages updated)
[06:52] <berent> how do i enable mysql on xampp
[06:52] <arrrghhh> ezzieyguywuf: gusty isn't *official* yet
[06:53] <nrdb> arrrghhh: if I put anthing in fstab it gets auto mounted.
[06:53] <bruenig> ezzieyguywuf, did you modify the sources.list?
[06:53] <navets_> I need some help at the command line, how do I use an else statement in cshell
[06:53] <arrrghhh> nrdb: i thought that's what you were asking about...
[06:53] <navets_> it wont work for me, I dont know why
[06:53] <ezzieyguywuf> bruenig: no how do i do that?
[06:53] <Amaranth> skinnypuppy1334: http://www.debuntu.org/ssh-key-based-authentication
[06:54] <Amaranth> skinnypuppy1334: in this case you can be fine creating a key with no password since it's all on the LAN
[06:54] <skinnypuppy1334> I'll check that link thank you
[06:54] <Curs0r> apparently l0 isn't listening at 127.0,0.1
[06:55] <nrdb> arrrghhh: I don't want it auto mounted, so I am using the 'disk mounter' applet, it is mounting the drive 'noexec' I want to change this.
[06:55] <Suicide_Guy2go> nickrud, thank you very much! it worked!
[06:55] <ezzieyguywuf> bruenig: how do i modify the sources list?
[06:55] <arrrghhh> ah... ok
[06:55] <bruenig> ezzieyguywuf, #ubuntu+1
[06:56] <ezzieyguywuf> bruenig: i'm sorry i don't know what that means (still a noob. just intalled feisty on sat)
[06:56] <bruenig> ezzieyguywuf, click on it
[06:56] <ezzieyguywuf> bruenig: not clickable
[06:56] <bruenig> ezzieyguywuf, hold shift down and then click on it
[06:56] <Iceshadow> cypher1: i talked to you earlier about that libstdc++, remember that?
[06:57] <ezzieyguywuf> bruenig: that just kind of hightlights everything int he window after then then unhighlights it cascade-like (kind nifty)
[06:57] <HealthyElijah> Aishiko: where is that list?
[06:57] <bruenig> ezzieyguywuf, use a real irc client
[06:57] <bruenig> !info xchat
[06:57] <Auckla> Alot of you guys are connecting from edu's. :)
[06:57] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB
[06:57] <Aishiko> HealthyElijah: what list?
[06:57] <ezzieyguywuf> such as?
[06:58] <HealthyElijah> hardware report on thebackscroll
[06:58] <nickrud> virtual internships
[06:58] <HealthyElijah> compatibility
[06:58] <bruenig> well ubotu has a good idea
[06:58] <KalEl> !gusty
[06:58] <ubotu> It is spelt !guTSy :)
[06:58] <HealthyElijah> this channel is huge btw
[06:59] <Aishiko> HealthyElijah: I gave the only directions to the list that I remember I don't have it bookmarked or memorized the address, just go to teh Ubuntu doc umentation and look around
[06:59] <HealthyElijah> k
[06:59] <KalEl> sorry... but in which channel can i get help regarding gusty installation, please?
[06:59] <nickrud> KalEl: #ubuntu+1
[06:59] <HealthyElijah> KalEl: this is it
[06:59] <Aishiko> KalEl: this channel if some one can
[06:59] <KalEl> ok thanks
[07:00] <KalEl> while installation, the process freezes for me, when it is at the second stage "Modifying the software channels"
[07:00] <KalEl> any tip on what i can do to go past that will be very helpful
[07:00] <HealthyElijah> u upgrading or clean install
[07:01] <KalEl> upgrading
[07:01] <KalEl> from 7.04
[07:01] <HealthyElijah> using iso?
[07:01] <merc> gutsy, i thought wasnt out yet?
[07:01] <KalEl> not using iso, using update-manager -d
[07:01] <KalEl> merc: beta
[07:01] <merc> ah
[07:01] <Aishiko> merc beta I'vbe been using ofr over a month now
[07:02] <merc> how's the compiz fusion effects?
[07:02] <merc> i heard there was like, low medium and high settings
[07:02] <HealthyElijah> KalEl: I think you should download the ISO, one of the Ubuntu team members was saying that before
[07:02] <Aishiko> merc it's preinstalled with no way to modify the settings you have to add that package, but I removed it
[07:02] <merc> yikes :\
[07:03] <HealthyElijah> CF ROCKS
[07:03] <vmlinuz`> whats the command to check if that specific package is really installed in my pc from apt-get?
[07:03] <ezzieyguywuf> any one upgraded to gutsy with thi? sudo sed -e 's/\sfeisty/ gutsy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:03] <ezzieyguywuf> sudo apt-get update
[07:03] <ezzieyguywuf> sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:03] <HealthyElijah> U shouldnt upgrade that wayt
[07:04] <ezzieyguywuf> healthy: why not?
[07:04] <merc> ezzieyguywuf: i dont think that's 'recommended'
[07:04] <HealthyElijah> a developer was in here earlier and said not to,
[07:04] <nickrud> vmlinuz`: apt-cache policy <package>
[07:04] <ezzieyguywuf> so what should i do?
[07:04] <HealthyElijah> you should upgrade with an iso burned to cd
[07:04] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: thank you
[07:04] <Jamesinator> When I try to log in to a user with a blanked password through GDM, the "Ok" button is disabled and I'm unable to login. What should I do?
[07:04] <Aishiko> merc: CF is just to make things "pretty" and to eat CPU cycles and degrtade performance
[07:04] <ezzieyguywuf> healthy: that won't just reinstall? that will actually upgrade?
[07:05] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: ok i have ssh installed but checking that like this "apt-cache policy ssh" didnt give me any result, it gave me like error i think
[07:05] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: I did, except the last command was apt-get dist-upgrade, repeated a couple of times
[07:05] <HealthyElijah> ezzieyguywuf: I have no clue but I read a blog a few weeks ago that said he ended up having to do a clean install because things went awry
[07:05] <nickrud> vmlinuz`: that would be ssh-server , the package name
[07:05] <NotFBI> hey guys
[07:05] <ezzieyguywuf> when gutsy releases officially, will just a plain ole upgrade and dist-upgrade do the trick or will the .iso method still be necessary?
[07:05] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: hm, thanks. how did you know.. actually i was trying to figure out how to know my package currect name  too haha
[07:05] <HealthyElijah> ezzieyguywuf: dunno <-- noob here
[07:06] <ezzieyguywuf> noob here too lol
[07:06] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: iso is NOT needed, you can use upgrade-manager -d
[07:06] <merc> ezzieyguywuf: i doubt you will need the iso.
[07:06] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: it gave me this
[07:06] <HealthyElijah> how do you do the actions in IRC?
[07:06] <vmlinuz`>   Installed: (none)
[07:06] <vmlinuz`>   Candidate: (none)
[07:06] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: that is after the official release correct?
[07:06] <merc> HealthyElijah: /me does things
[07:06] <Jamesinator> When I try to log in to a user with a blanked password through GDM, the "Ok" button is disabled and I'm unable to login. What should I do?
[07:06] <ezzieyguywuf> since the beta is recquiring some messin with the source list
[07:06] <nickrud> vmlinuz`: then you have issues with your sources; do apt-get update and check again.
[07:06] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: yes
[07:06] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, some people have nightmare problems when upgrading. It's just easier to backup ~/user  and fresh install
[07:06] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: well yea but i have ssh installed, im pretty sure.
[07:07] <merc> Jamesinator: how'd you get a blank password? (it might be set to not allow blank passwords.)
[07:07] <Qanadin> Where do I find Quicktime for Ubuntu?
[07:07] <Qanadin> anybody know?
[07:07] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, and upgraders slow down repos anyways. causing more headaches for people trying to get updates
[07:07] <Auckla> Ffmpeg thing.
[07:07] <Jamesinator> merc: I passwd -d the account that I wanted to have its password blanked
[07:07] <vmlinuz`> how do i add my username to the sudoer so it doesn't ask me for my passwd everytime i do "sudo"
[07:07] <merc> Qanadin: check out the forums, there's a way to get all those kinds of playback abilities(mp3,wmv, all that)
[07:07] <ezzieyguywuf> kahrytan: what is tha advantage of saving ~/home
[07:07] <nickrud> vmlinuz`: try dpkg -l ssh-server
[07:07] <Auckla> vmlinuz`, Add yourself to wheel?
[07:08] <bullgard4> What programs will use an entry  "mode 0666" such as an entry 'Section "DRI" Mode0666'  in xorg.conf?
[07:08] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, ummm... a backup and you can save it to new install.
[07:08] <merc> Jamesinator: i'd imagine its a gdm thing..i guess(just speculating)
[07:08] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: un  ssh-server                    <none>                        (no description available)
[07:08] <nickrud> vmlinuz`: sorry, it's openssh-server
[07:08] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: um, thanks.
[07:08] <Jamesinator> merc: I figured, but I guess I can try and find the gdm conf and see if there's a directive there I can change
[07:08] <riotkittie> oh yea i need to set up ssh.
[07:08] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: how to do that tho :p im new to ubuntu
[07:08] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, ~/user has all your prefs and files. .
[07:08] <KalEl> HealthyElijah: thanks, i suppose then i will wait till the final release comes out
[07:08] <mcquaid> hello, my brother is building a new puter, and he's concerned about getting 4gigs.  He said both linux and xp (non 64 bit versions) do not support 4 gigs
[07:08] <merc> Jamesinator: it might even be in the init script for it.
[07:08] <ezzieyguywuf> kahyrtan: yea but its pretty much empty except for some pictures i got in there. what prefs?
[07:08] <mcquaid> I said 4 gigs is the limit for 32 bit operating systems
[07:09] <nickrud> mcquaid: yes, actual useage is about 3.2gb I hear
[07:09] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, press ctrl-h in home folder
[07:09] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: yea that one is installed for me, but I can't remember that I did "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" hmm weird. did synaptic did it for me automatically you think?
[07:09] <HealthyElijah> KalEl: I will to but I am still going to do a fresh install since I installed Compiz Fusion over Fiesty
[07:09] <Qanadin> thanks merc!!
[07:09] <merc> Jamesinator: http://www.nabble.com/login-without-password-t3888878.html might be of interest
[07:09] <mcquaid> hmmm
[07:09] <merc> Qanadin: no prob, i take it you found it :)
[07:09] <Qanadin> yeah
[07:09] <merc> cool
[07:09] <Jamesinator> merc: Thanks, I'll try and read it (rather difficult using lynx and irssi in recovery console. :P)
[07:09] <ezzieyguywuf> i see
[07:09] <Auckla> vmlinuz`, That is a good question, I don't know how to do that in Linux I guess. :P
[07:10] <kahrytan> !clone | ezzieyguywuf
[07:10] <ubotu> ezzieyguywuf: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[07:10] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: hehe
[07:10] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf,  !clone and ~/user backup. and Reinstall is painless.
[07:10] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: whats the usage to netstat all the listetning ports?
[07:10] <KalEl> HealthyElijah: ok... i don't have compiz installed, but i suppose if i am to download the iso, it better be the final version - that way i save a CD :)
[07:10] <nickrud> vmlinuz`: there's a metapackage called ssh ; it installs the client and server ( apt-cache depends ssh)
[07:10] <ezzieyguywuf> what is !clone
[07:10] <nickrud> vmlinuz`: sudo netstat -tlp
[07:11] <KalEl> i see the problem
[07:11] <KalEl> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/universe/i18n/Translation-en_IN.bz2
[07:11] <darkchr0n0s> what does this mean n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee
[07:11] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, makes a list of installed package in event you have to reinstall ubuntu.
[07:11] <KalEl> this file does not exist in the server
[07:11] <KalEl> !!!
[07:11] <ezzieyguywuf> just run that in terminal?
[07:11] <Jamesinator> merc: Thanks for that link, I'm going to try the fix he supplied
[07:11] <vmlinuz`> wow nice :) I have ssh there.
[07:11] <jack|ass> Anyone seeing problems with Firefox in Gutsy?  Random crashing.
[07:11] <nickrud> HealthyElijah: you can prep for an upgrade by commenting out all third party repos, checking for obsolete packages in synaptic, and removing them
[07:11] <merc> Jamesinator: no problem, dont blame me when your keyboard explodes!
[07:11] <Hobbsee> darkchr0n0s: it's a cloak
[07:11] <jack|ass> General making baby jesus cry behavior?
[07:12] <kahrytan> !automate
[07:12] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[07:12] <nickrud> HealthyElijah: after updating sources after removing third party, that is.
[07:12] <darkchr0n0s> Hobbsee , how can i get one ?
[07:12] <ezzieyguywuf> i think i'm gonna hold of on upgrading for a while, till i can assure i can do it with no screups
[07:12] <Jamesinator> merc: Aaaaauuugh! My eyes! Plastic fragments! *whimpers*
[07:12] <Hobbsee> !participate | darkchr0n0s
[07:12] <ubotu> darkchr0n0s: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[07:12] <HealthyElijah> nickrud: over my head right now
[07:12] <Hobbsee> darkchr0n0s: by becomming a ubuntu member.
[07:12] <Aishiko> jack|ass: yes it crashes on downloads if you are not in the default theme
[07:12] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: When I don't use sudo for a few mins then i use it, it keep asking me for my root password again. How to stop that. add myself to sudoer right?
[07:12] <unjustice> anyone know how to fix I/O problems with Xsane scanner for Unbutu Feisty Fawn
[07:12] <unjustice> ?
[07:12] <ezzieyguywuf> healthy: are you going to upgrade to gutsy?
[07:12] <merc> Jamesinator: hehe.. :)
[07:13] <darkchr0n0s> Hobbsee , hmmm... lets see
[07:13] <astro76> vmlinuz`, in Ubuntu you use the admin group to get sudo access, but that doesn't remove the need for your password. Also sudo uses your user not root password
[07:13] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, I will.  its more usef friendly
[07:13] <nickrud> vmlinuz`: no, it times out in case you walk away from the keyboard. You can change the timeout time, but I don't remember offhand where
[07:13] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, and ill upgrade to Hard y Heron too
[07:14] <vmlinuz`> okay, well I remember something mention to me "Sudoers"
[07:14] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf,  though, anyone who uses ubuntu for home or server will upgrade to hardy
[07:14] <ezzieyguywuf> kayhtytan: i want to, but like healthy i'm still real new to linux (i think this is my 6 day) and i don't want to have to fresh install and i don't want to mess up my fglrx which took so long to set up
[07:14] <ezzieyguywuf> when is hardy do, six months from now?
[07:14] <jack|ass> Aishiko: this is just opening it and going to a webpage.
[07:14] <nickrud> vmlinuz`: you can use that to remove the need to enter the password. I'll never do that, personally
[07:14] <jack|ass> Aishiko: is there a way to fix this?  I am in the default theme I think
[07:14] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: okay
[07:14] <Aishiko> jack|ass: then no I don't have the problem
[07:14] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf,  If all goes as planned, April
[07:14] <kahrytan> !hardy
[07:14] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04-LTS, due April 2008. For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[07:15] <ezzieyguywuf> is ubotu a bot?
[07:15] <merc> ezzieyguywuf: yes. uBOTu
[07:15] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf,  What gave you that idea :-P
[07:15] <astro76> vmlinuz`, yeah it would be in sudoers, I also wouldn't recommend it :p
[07:15] <nickrud> !ubotu
[07:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:15] <ezzieyguywuf> oh hahahaha
[07:15] <jack|ass> Aishiko: default theme in firefox?  Or the Human theme for Ubuntu?
[07:15] <kahrytan> !botsnack
[07:15] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[07:15] <Aishiko> jack|ass: the theme for Ubuntu,
[07:15] <josiah> I have a Palm Treo 700wx. I want to either find software for syncing or a howto for Ubuntu or I would like to load linux onto it. Any Ideas, links?
[07:16] <ezzieyguywuf> !ubotu
[07:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:16] <ezzieyguywuf> woah!
[07:16] <ezzieyguywuf> what does the exclamation do there?
[07:16] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, responds to !info packagename
[07:16] <ezzieyguywuf> oh
[07:16] <jack|ass> Aishiko: that seems weird that that would matter.
[07:16] <merc> the ! is so ubotu knows its a command.
[07:16] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf,  and look. bug #1
[07:16] <ezzieyguywuf> so when you did
[07:16] <ezzieyguywuf> !clone
[07:16] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[07:16] <ezzieyguywuf> i was supposed to read that
[07:16] <ezzieyguywuf> i see
[07:16] <kahrytan> bug #1
[07:16] <kahrytan> guess it doesnt respond to that here
[07:16] <nickrud> !bug #1
[07:17] <Aishiko> jack|ass: I thought so too so I thought it was a FF bug but it works fine in the deflaut theme
[07:17] <nickrud> hm, it has
[07:17] <ezzieyguywuf> kayrytan:? bug #1?
[07:17] <jack|ass> Aishiko: either way, that's showstoppingly bad.
[07:17] <kahrytan> In -offtopic, it will respond to bug #1
[07:17] <ezzieyguywuf> oh
[07:17] <kahrytan> Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[07:17] <Sianis_> hi all
[07:17] <Aishiko> jack|ass: they might have fixed it by now but I've not checked in the last week or 2
[07:18] <Sianis_> i have adresses in a text file
[07:18] <Sianis_> how can I send them email in easy way?
[07:18] <jack|ass> Aishiko: I updated yesterday. :-/
[07:19] <blueflower> haii
[07:19] <dfwgsgds> hi
[07:19] <Aishiko> jack|ass: I'm going to try it again after the release is official at that point there is no excuse for it to not work under any theme
[07:19] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.formatds.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/screenshot-control-center.png&imgrefurl=http://www.formatds.org/index.php%3Fs%3Dgnome&h=530&w=700&sz=102&hl=en&start=3&sig2=hM5l_bKiWEZ91znWx-IVvA&um=1&tbnid=OnNXt08vqQ6I5M:&tbnh=106&tbnw=140&ei=tNQBR_zGBZSIeObv8bYC&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgutsy%2Bgibbon%2Bcontrol%2Bcenter%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3
[07:19] <kahrytan> Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:official%26sa%3DG
[07:19] <blueflower> haii
[07:19] <ezzieyguywuf> oh when that guy typed #ubuntu+1 he wanted me to go to the other room
[07:19] <ezzieyguywuf> you shoulda said that bro!
[07:19] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf,  my bad. http://www.formatds.org/index.php?s=gnome
[07:20] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, http://www.formatds.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/screenshot-control-center.png thats what i like
[07:20] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, Ubuntu control center.
[07:20] <HealthyElijah> ezzieyguywuf: You wont get much help there anyways
[07:20] <HealthyElijah> You were not offtopic here
[07:20] <scatyb> grub
[07:20] <ezzieyguywuf> thanks healthy
[07:20] <scatyb> !grub
[07:20] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:20] <HealthyElijah> I mean u might get help there but there was not many active users, i checked
[07:20] <ezzieyguywuf> kayrytan: what about the control center?
[07:20] <blueflower> haii
[07:20] <HealthyElijah> either way is fine
[07:20] <blueflower> haii
[07:21] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, http://www.formatds.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/screenshot-control-center.png
[07:21] <jack|ass> Aishiko: hmm, looks like it might be related to color depth... I'm upping mine to 24 (dunno why it's 16) and trying again
[07:21] <nickrud> !hi | blueflower
[07:21] <Aishiko> kahrytan: that's just the compiz fusion control panel not the ubuntu one
[07:21] <ubotu> blueflower: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:21] <ezzieyguywuf> kayrytan: thats compiz right?
[07:22] <kahrytan> Aishiko, it's ubuntu one
[07:22] <kahrytan> Aishiko, it's in Feisty just hidden
[07:22] <ezzieyguywuf> kayrytan: when i installed compiz thats what i got
[07:22] <Aishiko> kahrytan: for me to get that menu I had to instal compiz
[07:22] <indraveni> Hi,
[07:22] <scatyb> !windows
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[07:22] <Aishiko> 's manager
[07:23] <rubyphyte> has anyone used pendrive linux under windows?
[07:23] <kahrytan> Aishiko,  no you dont
[07:23] <kahrytan> Aishiko, compiz has it's own control center though
[07:23] <indraveni> I have sony laptop and i want my function keys, and all other features like motioneye etc to work
[07:23] <ezzieyguywuf> haha
[07:23] <indraveni> how can i do that
[07:23] <jack|ass> Aishiko: that got it... 24-bit color.
[07:23] <kahrytan> Aishiko, just install gnome-control-center
[07:24] <ezzieyguywuf> indraveni: system>>preferences>>keyboard shortcuts
[07:24] <indraveni> i heard something about sonypi
[07:24] <indraveni> but i am not getting where to download it
[07:24] <Aishiko> kahrytan: either way I've removed compiz, why they would install it automatically and not give the settings manager
[07:24] <gotama> Hi. I have installed edubuntu with ltsp support. When I try to play a sound in the thin client it uses the speaker of the server. (wavesurfer, kedit, audacity, gnoise-gnome) Is there any solution. xmms works fine but its response is to slow. Help please.
[07:24] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf,  gnome-control-center is in feisty repo.  it's same one in gutsy
[07:24] <kahrytan> Aishiko, jsut install  gnome-control-center for the control center for gnome
[07:24] <Aishiko> jack|ass: great glad to hear that
[07:24] <kahrytan> Aishiko, it's not part of compiz
[07:25] <ezzieyguywuf> kahrytan: i dunno what it is, i just know i got it and compiz :-D
[07:25] <jack|ass> should get fixed though. :)
[07:25] <Aishiko> kahrytan:  the menu you showed is the smae one I saw when I got the compiz settings manager before I removed compiz
[07:26] <indraveni> ezzieyguywuf, thats manually setting,
[07:26] <indraveni> ezzieyguywuf, there are smoemore procedures for this
[07:26] <ezzieyguywuf> indraveni: sorry thats all the help i can give
[07:26] <nickrud> the printing configuration is one of the better changes in gutsy
[07:26] <kahrytan> Aishiko, The is one for compiz and seperate one for Preferences. THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ONES.
[07:27] <nickrud> lol, shouting! (me votes with kahrytan)
[07:27] <kahrytan> Aishiko, They do look alike but they are separate
[07:27] <therealnanotube> nickrud: out of curiosity - what are some of the worse changes in gutsy?
[07:28] <ezzieyguywuf> i'd like to know too
[07:28] <ezzieyguywuf> is it really worth backing up home and doing a fresh install
[07:28] <nickrud> therealnanotube: for me, my suspend & hibernate went way.
[07:28] <kahrytan> nickrud, wasnt shouting. out of context. thats sternly saying something
[07:28] <dxdt> nickrud: OUCH
[07:28] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: are you on a laptop?
[07:28] <ezzieyguywuf> mine hardly work as is so thats not too bad for me
[07:29] <therealnanotube> nickrud: ah, hehe i see. my suspend key stopped working after breezy->dapper upgrade (though suspend itself works, just not the keyboard key on the laptop)...
[07:29] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: yes
[07:29] <riotkittie> now now.
[07:29] <Aishiko> ezzieyguywuf: why back it up? or did you not make it a seperate partation for it?
[07:29] <ezzieyguywuf> also, dumb question (why would  suspend and hibernate be on desktop!!!! haha)
[07:29] <nickrud> kahrytan: I know, only teasing ;)
[07:29] <ezzieyguywuf> aishiko: had a hard time making logical partitions during install
[07:29] <ezzieyguywuf> i'm not sure if you make a logical install under a primary one or not
[07:30] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: I set sleep up for my boss, he's a man of little patience
[07:30] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, if you already got the partitions setup. don't have to make new ones for new install. just format them
[07:30] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: i see. so you got sleep working fine in feisty? (not on a t60p running fglrx by chance? :-D)
[07:30] <nickrud> feisty was amazing for me, I missed edgy and dapper & breezy were nice
[07:31] <ezzieyguywuf> kahrytan: i only have one primary partition for root and one for swap, other two are windows
[07:31] <tsukasa> what does everyone use for an audio player?
[07:31] <tsukasa> just wondering
[07:31] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: It worked fine (gateway pos, but feisty supported it beautifully)
[07:31] <ezzieyguywuf> amarok for now....
[07:31] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: lucky
[07:31] <therealnanotube> nickrud: exactly the same for me - missed edgy, went directly from dapper to a fresh feisty install. ;) all of them have worked well
[07:32] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, that's fine
[07:32] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, 2gb swap i assume?
[07:32] <Aishiko> tsukasa: I use Kaffeine because it's the only thing I've found so far that doesn't try to make a listing of my files
[07:32] <nickrud> therealnanotube: yeah, after years of finagling debian (which I thoroughly enjoyed, by the way) it was nice to use one that just worked
[07:33] <Aishiko> tsukasa: I distan that sort of software behavior
[07:33] <ezzieyguywuf> kahrytan: yes
[07:33] <riotkittie> oh wow. this is amazing.  stability. woo. woo.
[07:33] <ezzieyguywuf> but i have 2 gig of mem so i feel its overkill
[07:33] <therealnanotube> nickrud: for me, s/debian/freebsd/ :)
[07:33] <nickrud> therealnanotube: ah, a masochist ;)
[07:33] <paoniaIS> Is there any way to bring a "bricked" CF Disk back to life?
[07:33] <ezzieyguywuf> kahrytan: so i don't need to back up home? but when i format that partition won't i lose all my data?
[07:34] <salamkenal> hello how to install the Xlib
[07:34] <Frogzoo> paoniaIS: manufacturers' websites usually have tools for this, which only run under doze
[07:34] <salamkenal> in ubuntu
[07:34] <salamkenal> 7.04
[07:34] <bullgard4> man chmod writes: "chmod changes the permissions of each given file according to mode, which can be either a symbolic representation of changes to make, or an octal number  representing the bit pattern for the new permissions.
[07:34] <nickrud> therealnanotube: ah, shouldn't have said that, I tried freebsd before I knew enough to use it properly. For me, it would have been masochism
[07:34] <josiah> well there are some things I just cant do on Linux. I have a windows xp and windows vista full version disk. How do I make it so that I can load windows from within Linux. (I dont want to dual boot I just want to do some random things like update my palm treo)
[07:35] <Aishiko> riotkittie: I agree I have gusty running and it's been more stable then widoze but then the .12 kernel is not stable
[07:35] <paoniaIS> bummer, I don't have a windumb isntall on a machine that has a CF drive
[07:35] <nickrud> josiah: install vmware-server, and install the windows os of your choice in it.
[07:35] <therealnanotube> nickrud: heh well, back in the day i used to run some servers - it was a rock solid os for a server. but when i tried using it for a desktop, it was just missing too much stuff (mind you, this was at least 5 years ago, i bet it's much better now...)
[07:35] <josiah> nickrud: thank you
[07:36] <nickrud> therealnanotube: that's about the time I tried it as well.
[07:36] <Frogzoo> paoniaIS: have you tried partitioning with fdisk, & mkfs.ext3 ?
[07:36] <riotkittie> Aishiko:  i'm not talking about gutsy. i'm talking about my wireless :P       but gutsy gets a stamp of approval as well
[07:36] <Frogzoo> paoniaIS: actually CF should be ext2 probly
[07:36] <Aishiko> riotkittie: ohh OK :P
[07:36] <salamkenal> how to install Xlib/Xfreeb6 in ubuntu 7.04 please help
[07:36] <nickrud> riotkittie: you have wireless??!! Finally?
[07:36] <bullgard4> man chmod writes: "chmod changes the permissions of each given file according to _mode_, which can be either a symbolic representation of changes to make, or an octal number representing the bit pattern for the new permissions." Where is this 'symbolic representation of changes to make' defined more precisely?
[07:37] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, did you change your theme yet?
[07:37] <nickrud> bullgard4: like chmod u+x file (add execute perms to the owner of the file)
[07:38] <therealnanotube> nickrud: cool. i remember my first freebsd version was 2.2.8 - i still have those cds somewhere. heh.
[07:38] <nickrud> therealnanotube: I don't remember the version, what I remember was installing and sitting dumbly at the terminal
[07:39] <riotkittie> nickrud: i've always had wireless :P its still awful under,  but  under :cough:gutsy:cough: it is finally behaving.  i think. i used to lose connections like crazy, and have to reboot :\
[07:39] <ezzieyguywuf> kahrytan: what theme?
[07:39] <bullgard4> nickrud: You have given to me an example. Thank you. Can you also tell me where I can find a full definition of that 'symbolic representation'?
[07:39] <therealnanotube> nickrud: haha, i guess at least ubuntu has minimized the sitting dumbly at terminal during install time - doesn't take that long. ;)
[07:39] <riotkittie> and i still cant get rt2x00 to work for me :|
[07:39] <riotkittie> but whatever. :D
[07:39] <nickrud> bullgard4: man chmod, just above the AUTHOR section
[07:40] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf,  you still got the dull boring orange theme?
[07:40] <nickrud> therealnanotube: no, I meant after the install. Didn't have a clue :)
[07:40] <therealnanotube> kahrytan: i still have the default feisty brown/orange theme. i like it! :)
[07:40] <ezzieyguywuf> oh, well i installed compiz and emerald, and had a cool theme, but couldn't figure out why my text wasn't showing in my titlebar, so i reverted to the clone of the orange theme with compiz effects. i do have a custom collage desktop thats off the heezy though (jpg)
[07:40] <ezzieyguywuf> :-d
[07:41] <kahrytan> therealnanotube, http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o200/kahrytan/screenshots/Screen_10-01-07.png
[07:41] <kahrytan> thereal I don't
[07:41] <MoNsTeR> can somebody tell me how to restart my gui so i can use a updated resolution in the xorg file
[07:41] <bullgard4> nickrud: I will read that carefully.
[07:41] <riotkittie> MoNsTeR: ALT CTRL BKSPCE
[07:41] <therealnanotube> nickrud: a-ha, i see. hehe. well, i was a pretty decent at the console, so didn't have that problem. :) but compiling kde was sure a "sitting dumbly at the terminal" time...
[07:41] <ezzieyguywuf> so i installed KDE, but i'm still in my GNOME session but a bunch od Kapps are showwing up in my applications list
[07:41] <riotkittie> or you can sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[07:41] <ezzieyguywuf> is this normal?
[07:41] <riotkittie> or sudo /ect/init.d/ gdm restart
[07:42] <ezzieyguywuf> kahyrtan: what theme do you use?
[07:42] <nickrud> therealnanotube: yeah, I put on a mandrake then spend about half a year with linux from scratch. Made myself eat my own dogfood
[07:42] <therealnanotube> kahrytan: meh, tastes differ. :) i am not a big fan of the "apple wannabe" themes, myself. ;)
[07:42] <ezzieyguywuf> oh, plus on top of what i said before (and i can't be sure) but i feel like these K-apps replaced all my gnome stuff too
[07:42] <ezzieyguywuf> i did not want this :-(
[07:43] <Hornet> !equivalents
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[07:43] <therealnanotube> nickrud: hehe what we won't put up with during college, when we have time to waste, eh? :) (at least that's where i was). i don't have the time to mess around with the details nowadays...
[07:43] <riotkittie> i like nice, minimal, subdued themes. i wish i could find a decent dark one, tho.
[07:43] <Flannel> ezzieyguywuf: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/18/removing-kde-icons-in-gnome-remove-gnome-icons-in-kde/
[07:43] <riotkittie> ezzieyguywuf: no the gnome apps should be there. each DE's apps end up in the others' menus tho
[07:43] <nickrud> heh. wrong close button
[07:44] <kahrytan> therealnanotube, I miss my mac. Considering getting it replaced from ebay
[07:44] <therealnanotube> nickrud: hehe what we won't put up with during college, when we have time to waste, eh? :) (at least that's where i was). i don't have the time to mess around with the details nowadays...
[07:44] <ezzieyguywuf> riotkittie: thanks flannel: thanks
[07:44] <Flannel> ezzieyguywuf: that's a method/script to get rid of the apps from the other DE
[07:44] <riotkittie> it drives me Krazy. on the rare occasion i hate myself enough to install kde
[07:44] <ezzieyguywuf> hah krazzy
[07:44] <ezzieyguywuf> i might leave it but i will def bookmark the page flannel
[07:45] <nickrud> therealnanotube: I was working the night shift at a homeless shelter, lots of down time :)
[07:45] <ezzieyguywuf> brb i'm gonna login to KDE
[07:45] <nickrud> of course, if there'd been personal computers when I was in college, I'd have probably spend a lot of time with them
[07:46] <therealnanotube> kahrytan: ah heh i see. macs are pretty cool, from what i've seen, though i've never used one for a prolonged length of time since the os8/9 days...
[07:46] <therealnanotube> nickrud: hehe
[07:46] <riotkittie> if there'd been personal computers. aye.  <hides>
[07:46] <kahrytan> therealnanotube, my last mac was my 6400/200. ide cable busted it was my first  net pc.
[07:47] <nickrud> I wasn't into flicking switches to program devices
[07:47] <therealnanotube> kahrytan: heh ic.
[07:48] <therealnanotube> nickrud: hehe yea, and those punchcards weren't that much fun, either.
[07:48] <nickrud> therealnanotube: I hated the 1 week turnaround, yes :)
[07:48] <riotkittie> thank you for making me feel young. i needed that :P
[07:49] <ezzieyguywuf> back!
[07:49] <therealnanotube> riotkittie: hehe, sorry, if you need impetus to "feel young", you know you're gettin' old. :P
[07:49] <ezzieyguywuf> so who here uses KDE?
[07:49] <therealnanotube> ezzieyguywuf: i've got kde on my desktop that i don't really use much. :) i like kde in general, but gnome's panel i like so much better, that i just stick with gnome.
[07:50] <ezzieyguywuf> and where is compiz? does KDE need to be set up to run in xgl too or w/e
[07:50] <salamkenal> how install ntlm_auth for the new version???
[07:50] <nickrud> ah, a question! too bad I can't answer that one
[07:50] <Curs0r> you know, in the early days of man we all sat around saying things like "awk", "sed" and "grep" to each other
[07:50] <ezzieyguywuf> you know what, i just realized how much smoother my comp runs without compiz
[07:50] <therealnanotube> nickrud: hehe yea, a while since we saw one of these. :)
[07:51] <IRC_help> nqkoi znae li bulgarski ?
[07:51] <therealnanotube> ezzieyguywuf: yea, i have beryl on my comp, but it just kinda lags when there are more than a few windows open, so i just use metacity...
[07:51] <Usrl> Question: I'm using gtkpod to load a bunch of podcasts and songs to my nano. How the heck am I supposed to be able to tell how much space the files are going to take up once I save it to the iPod, though?
[07:51] <ezzieyguywuf> therealnanotube: yea i can see why you don't like kde panel. i don't really like the menu either (too windowish, i'm used to gnome menu now after only 6 days!)
[07:51] <therealnanotube> IRC_help: i can understand a tiny bit. :)
[07:51] <ezzieyguywuf> therealnanotuve: what is metacity?
[07:52] <therealnanotube> ezzieyguywuf: metacity is the default window manager - basically what you get when you don't have beryl or compiz :)
[07:52] <ezzieyguywuf> oh thanks
[07:52] <ezzieyguywuf> i love the compiz effects though
[07:52] <ezzieyguywuf> main reason i wanted to switch to linux
[07:52] <ezzieyguywuf> i'm torn between using and not :-) haha
[07:52] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: its the manager that you used when you gave up on your missing title bars :)
[07:53] <ezzieyguywuf> actually, that was a gnome-human clone i found in emerald so it still has all compiz effects :-)
[07:53] <broken> I have an issue here, I am using ubuntu feisty on my laptop. I've configured the power options that when the lid is closed the laptop goes into sleep mode. Now when I open the lid the screen remains black and doesnt' react to input, like hitting a key or moving the mouse around. Any ideas why?
[07:53] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: when you do make the upgrade to gutsy, you'll find it much better. Even for fglrx
[07:53] <riotkittie> compiz runs very nice for me, and is actually somewhat useful. i  was shocked.
[07:53] <riotkittie> ubuntu's made me lazy <weeps>
[07:53] <therealnanotube> broken: maybe hit the power button?
[07:54] <therealnanotube> broken: that's how i bring my laptop out of suspend - hit the power btn
[07:54] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: really? thats great news. gutsy is sounding like its worth even a clean install, but i dunno if i wanna do all that.....
[07:54] <broken> .. ok I guess I'll give that a try. Be back in a second.
[07:54] <nickrud> riotkittie: try debian, you've got the basics down, now build your own machine
[07:54] <ezzieyguywuf> broken: i think you have to map a key to come out of sleep mode. can anone verify that?
[07:54] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: well, you're gonna be changing your partitions eventually anyway
[07:54] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: if i can figure out how
[07:55] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: do i just make them all logical?
[07:55] <therealnanotube> ezzieyguywuf: well, you would'n want your partitions to be all illogical, would you? :)
[07:55] <ezzieyguywuf> therealnano:haha
[07:55] <IRC_help> therealnanotube, I don't understand very good english.
[07:55] <riotkittie> nickrud: debian schmebian :P i'm sure that it's lovely and everything, and i will get around to it at some point
[07:55] <riotkittie> but i was thinking of going back to slack
[07:55] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: when you decide to, boot the live cd, use cfdisk and delete the last partition, make it an extended partition, then add logical ones to the extended
[07:56] <nickrud> riotkittie: it's a good learning experience. But, ubuntu does a magnificent job of configuring it for me
[07:57] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: i tried that on my install of fiesty. i had two windows partitions, a swap partition, and an ext3 that i set to primary that i put at / for my root. then i wanted to use the leftover space for home and boot but it simply said unusable space
[07:57] <broken_> Yea I just had to reboot.
[07:57] <broken_> To get out of sleep mode.
[07:57] <ezzieyguywuf> so instead i went back and made root that whole last partition instead of wasting that space
[07:58] <ezzieyguywuf> lemme try a visual
[07:58] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: because you didn't make the 4th partition an extended one.
[07:58] <therealnanotube> IRC_help: kak po russki?
[07:58] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: so i guess i'm confused. its either primary or extended? for some reason i thought it was either primary or logical
[07:58] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: 4 primary partitions allowed, or three primary, one extended, and a bunch of logical
[07:59] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: ok i'm startin to get this
[07:59] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: the extended partition is what allows you to create logical ones
[07:59] <broken_> So I don't know why I can't get my laptop back from sleep mode. As soon as I close the lid I cannot use my laptop anymore unless I reboot.
[08:00] <riotkittie> learning experiences and i dont mesh well these days. i try to concentrate, and have a toddler cannonballing into my lap.
[08:00] <riotkittie> broken_: is that constant? my laptop will hang every now and then when i put it into sleep, albeit rarely. usually only when i absolutely need it not to, though
[08:00] <bcw> I'm writing an input system for tablet computers (for linux). I've done some experiments to verify I can basically do what I want, and now it's time to back up, and set up the proper infrastructure for developing software that can be installed, un-installed, not conflict, etc.
[08:00] <bcw> I'm not speaking of a .deb yet, but rather the make & folders & naming conventions to allow me to build this correctly in the first place, so that it can be a package later.
[08:00] <bcw> Is this the place to ask such questions?
[08:00] <broken_> riotkittie: all the time.
[08:01] <riotkittie> ugh. i was wrong about my wireless being stable. =|
[08:01] <nickrud> what's the bulgarian country code?
[08:01] <nickrud> bcw: ask on ubuntu-motu , they can help with both
[08:02] <ezzieyguywuf> woah didn't know ps3 could run ubuntu (knew it could run yellodog or w/e)
[08:02] <ezzieyguywuf> anyone done this?
[08:02] <bcw> thanks
[08:02] <nickrud> hah. toddlers and extended concentration do not mix
[08:02] <IRC_help> therealnanotube, I Can you tell me how to escape defult firewall from ubuntu
[08:03] <salamkenal> how i update the ntlm_auth package???
[08:05] <nickrud> salamkenal: winbind has the ntlm_auth command in it. its 3.0.24 in feisty
[08:06] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: (still on partitions) when i get to this screen http://customisinglife.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/resize-small.png does that ext3 make it an extended partition b/c thats what i used for /
[08:07] <salamkenal> if i install winbind, so i must install samba right?
[08:07] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: no, you would have defined the partitions earlier, that screen is about what kind of file system you're putting on the partition and how you're going to use it
[08:08] <ezzieyguywuf> i might be remembering something wrong, but after i checked manual and went to 'add partition' that was the only option i got
[08:08] <nickrud> salamkenal: no real clue here, I do so little with samba or windows
[08:08] <ezzieyguywuf> i NEVER got a screen that looked like this http://www.elart.it/kubuntu/GParted.png
[08:08] <ezzieyguywuf> and i installed 3 times
[08:08] <julz> newbie here... to install drivers im told i need to follow the build instructions. is this as simple as using the terminal and typing what it says?
[08:09] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: that's the one you want. I never use the live cd to install, so I can't tell you how to get there
[08:09] <ezzieyguywuf> julz:depends on if its as easy as using the terminal and typing what is say s:-) usually it does work if its a good guide
[08:09] <nickrud> julz: possibly even easier: what driver are you trying to install?
[08:09] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: so how do you install?
[08:10] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: I use the alternate cd
[08:10] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: it's a text based installer, no live cd on it
[08:10] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: brb
[08:10] <julz> umm, a ralink one for a usb wireless adaptor
[08:11] <the9a3eedi> Does ubuntu fit on a 2GB flash disk?
[08:11] <nickrud> julz: I do know one thing: I've watched someone struggle mightily with that ralink driver, trying to get wpa.
[08:12] <ezzieyguywuf> my first impressions of KDE are no bueno
[08:12] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: what is an alternate CD? is it a lot harder to install this way?
[08:12] <julz> nickrud: as in encryption? i read that on the net, but my home wireless is unsecured.
[08:12] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: it's full of options, it has a learning curve all it's own.
[08:12] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: its downloadable as an .iso?
[08:13] <julz> i just installed ubuntu from live cd. kernel will be the latest? 2.6?
[08:13] <nickrud> julz: then you might have better luck. But 98% of the time, the 'cut & paste' into a terminal works.
[08:13] <nickrud> julz: that is, for the actual compiling & such.
[08:13] <ezzieyguywuf> julz: should tell you when you boot (for me i have to choose either kernel 2.16 or 15
[08:13] <ezzieyguywuf> or something like that
[08:14] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 , look for alternate x86
[08:14] <julz> thanks a lot:)
[08:14] <nickrud> !wifi | julz take a look at these pages, it might give you a shortcut
[08:14] <ubotu> julz take a look at these pages, it might give you a shortcut: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:15] <therealnanotube> julz: "uname -a" will give you info on kernel and stuff
[08:15] <the9a3eedi> Hi.  I have 3 ubuntu machines on my lan, I want to be able to control the full desktop gui from one the other two on the lan. Without it messing with the other desktops mouse etc...
[08:19] <DraconPern> Is it possible to install and run ubuntu from an USB flash drive?
[08:19] <nickrud> the9a3eedi: according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent , 1gb is big enough
[08:19] <Woet> Whoo, my first message on IRC via ubuntu!
[08:19] <Guest10035> I installed VMware and dedicated 4 gig for an OS partition, which drive letter did WMware assign to it
[08:19] <user_> Is this possible with VNC? Or do I need to be using ssh to do this ?
[08:19] <ezzieyguywuf> yay woet
[08:19] <Woet> When wine installed an application for me, how do i start it?
[08:20] <nickrud> Woet: wine /path/to/exe
[08:20] <Woet> in terminal i guess?
[08:20] <ezzieyguywuf> woet: yep :-D
[08:20] <nickrud> Woet: yes, but you can create a launcher in the menu ; right click the menu bar, select edit
[08:20] <Woet> thanks
[08:21] <Woet> and how do i find the path.. just the usual windows path?
[08:21] <riotkittie> boo. hiss. i had to go and wax and wane poetic about how stable my connection was.
[08:21] <Woet> how do i browse the windows part that wine created for me?
[08:21] <nickrud> Woet: it will be something like ~/.wind/drive_c/<wherever you installed, like Program\ Files/exe
[08:22] <Woet> yeah i know, but i dont remember the name of the directory :o
[08:22] <julz> i extracted the driver to the desktop, and the first think i put into the terminal is "$dos2unix *" but it sayd command not found
[08:22] <nickrud> Woet: um typo, and you'd browse the same:  /home/<you>/.wine/drive_c
[08:22] <Woet> oh ok
[08:22] <nickrud> riotkittie: you missed the guy asking about ralink usb dongles
[08:23] <Woet> there is no folder called "wine" or ".wine"
[08:23] <nickrud> Guest10035: you question isn't very clear
[08:23] <Woet> in /home/me/
[08:23] <nickrud> Woet: did you run winecfg?
[08:23] <Woet> no?
[08:23] <Woet> but i installed a windows app with success
[08:23] <Guest10035> what are the drive letters does VMware assign, I can only find my cd rom
[08:23] <nickrud> Woet: and we've about reached my limit of wine knowledge
[08:23] <riotkittie> nickrud: i'm sure he'll be back
[08:23] <nickrud> lol
[08:23] <epotash_> can someone reccomend some software for taking a sample of an mp3
[08:23] <epotash_> to extract some seconds of it
[08:24] <epotash_> i will then use it as a ringtone
[08:24] <Woet> im now i
[08:24] <Woet> im now in winecfg
[08:24] <riotkittie> i have lowered myself to booting back into xp :|
[08:24] <Woet> let me see :)
[08:24] <julz> riokittie: i am back! and still needing help!:)
[08:24] <riotkittie> epotash_: audacity?
[08:24] <epotash_> cool
[08:24] <epotash_> i had forgotten about that
[08:24] <epotash_> thanks
[08:24] <riotkittie> julz: ok. what you want to do is remove the dongle from your computer. at this point, you will want to pick up a hammer.
[08:24] <nickrud> Guest10035: vmware's os's are not available from the host os, they exist in files under the vmware Virtual Machine definitions
[08:24] <Woet> is there software to mount a sshserver like a harddisk or folder?
[08:25] <julz> haha i have been there for a while
[08:25] <Woet> i asked before, but i stilll cant find them
[08:25] <riotkittie> julz: which adapter do you have? which chipset, do you know?
[08:25] <Woet> and 2 things: winecfg freezes, and when i try to adjust time and date, it freezes too
[08:25] <julz> when i type what im told into the terminal, i just get told the command is not found
[08:25] <Woet> just the window freezes
[08:25] <nickrud> Woet: sshfs (haven't used it myself)
[08:26] <Woet> ok, let me try that again then
[08:26] <riotkittie> what command's not found?
[08:26] <julz> i have d-link dwl-122 usb adaptor. trying to install the driver from here http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html
[08:26] <riotkittie> g122? or just 122?
[08:27] <julz> 122, sorry
[08:27] <julz> g
[08:27] <Woet> and what is a good replacement for UJtraedit (to code PHP)
[08:27] <julz> sorry, it is G122. with a g
[08:27] <gromozekin> 400mhz is it ok to install ubuntu?
[08:28] <nickrud> Woet: I use eclipse with  PDT , and gphpedit for quicky stuff
[08:28] <progress0r> if I can see a usb device listed when doing lsusb, can i find out what /dev/ device it is using or assigning?
[08:28] <therealnanotube> gromozekin: probably better off with xubuntu...
[08:28] <riotkittie>  i have that as well, and i have gotten nowhere. i would suggest the serial monkey drivers over the ones available on ralink's site, as theyre built upon the ralink release, more recent and improved
[08:28] <riotkittie> http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
[08:28] <therealnanotube> gromozekin: but if you have lot's of ram, could get by with even regular gnome ubuntu.
[08:29] <Woet> how do i start sshfs?
[08:29] <riotkittie> if you can bear to wait a month, and are willing to upgrade.. gutsy supports the g122 out of the box. otoh, it doesnt seem to be completely stable.
[08:29] <progress0r> i wish more windows managers came out, im beginning to tire of gnome and kde and xfce4
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> progress0r: erm, there are hundreds.
[08:29] <nickrud> gromozekin: no. Use xubuntu. I had to move up from a 466 with 1gb of memory to run ubuntu
[08:30] <progress0r> i guess it doesnt matter i spend most of my time in the shell
[08:30] <nickrud> !info ion
[08:30] <ubotu> Package ion does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:30] <progress0r> tonyyarusso: are there any new wm's out there considered slick?
[08:30] <progress0r> other than beryl
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> progress0r: E17 is often talked about
[08:30] <progress0r> hmmm i will check that out - thanks
[08:30] <neopsyche> needed more than 256 to run ubuntu?
[08:30] <progress0r> any takers on my usb question?
[08:31] <progress0r> if I can see a usb device listed when doing lsusb, can i find out what /dev/ device it is using or assigning?
[08:31] <user_> Any VNC users? I'm trying to keep computer B usable while using B's gui desktop on computer A. Both ubuntu on lan and remote desktop works , and I can control either way. I just need the other user to be able to continue using and have another session on . How would I do a VNC new gnome session ? ? \
[08:31] <neopsyche> compared to xubuntu?
[08:31] <nickrud> progress0r: http://www.suckless.org/wiki/dwm is considered very cool
[08:31] <progress0r> nickrud: cool ill look at that also
[08:31] <neopsyche> i have experienced usb problems using ubuntu in vmware
[08:31] <neopsyche> but thats probably just a vmware issue
[08:32] <user_> neopsyche: did you install vmware tools after building the vmachine?
[08:32] <Woet> how do i start sshfs?
[08:32] <riotkittie> boo. hiss. i need a pci free slot. :|
[08:32] <nickrud> progress0r: the fastest way is to unmount it,  do    tail -f /var/log/syslog    in a terminal,  then watch the terminal when you plug it in
[08:32] <neopsyche> oh.... lol.. no no such luck.. that was probably it!
[08:32] <julz> riotkittie: im tempted, but now im also tempted to go for xubuntu from what ive just read
[08:32] <GuHHH> hy my pendrive doesnt mount automatically anymore? and it says i dont have permission to edit it.
[08:32] <therealnanotube> riotkittie: what for you need a pci slot?
[08:32] <overclucker> *sigh*
[08:33] <progress0r> nickrud: excellent idea thanks
[08:33] <nickrud> having problems with usb in vmware also, but I do have the vmware tools.
[08:33] <progress0r> nickrud: and dwm does look good
[08:33] <riotkittie> therealnanotube: so that i tape my wireless dongle to a large pile of dynamite, and get something that doesnt suck
[08:33] <nickrud> progress0r: I draw the line at having to recompile my window manager to change an option :)
[08:34] <progress0r> nickrud: dwm makes you do that?
[08:34] <therealnanotube> riotkittie: ahhehe i see :)
[08:34] <punzada> anyone know if there is a way to set which processes are run on which core on a core2 or quadcore system?
[08:34] <nickrud> progress0r: yup. but for people who are in the terminal all the time, it's very nice.
[08:34] <leo_rockw> hello everyone
[08:35] <therealnanotube> riotkittie: if it's a desktop, maybe you could take out your wired NIC, and put a wireless one in its place?
[08:35] <Ahadiel> bbl
[08:35] <progress0r> nickrud: probably wicked fast i bet
[08:35] <riotkittie> is a pci-e x1 a mini pci-e or no?
[08:36] <riotkittie> therealnanotube: i think the only supported wireless ones all have the prism chipset, and ... well, ugh.
[08:36] <therealnanotube> riotkittie: heh
[08:36] <therealnanotube> riotkittie: well, either you want working wireless, or you don't ;)
[08:37] <GuHHH> why my pendrive doesnt mount automatically anymore? and it says i dont have permission to edit it.
[08:37] <leo_rockw> anybody hear has experience using uswsusp (s2disk, s2ram, s2both)?
[08:37] <leo_rockw> here*
[08:37] <lunz> i can't change my screen resolution higher than 800 x 600,can anyone help me?
[08:38] <progress0r> dang, Enlightenment DR17 (or E17 for short) is being actively developed for the last three years.
[08:38] <progress0r> 3 years?!?
[08:38] <punzada> bunch of slackers :)
[08:38] <riotkittie> therealnanotube: my last dongle had a prism chip, and really, i'd rather go through labor and delivery again than mess with another one. :P
[08:38] <progress0r> geez
[08:38] <riotkittie> i am lazy. i want something that just works.  :'(
[08:38] <user_> lunz: what version and have you downloaded updates? Or running live?
[08:39] <Innomen> just installed ubuntu 7.04 onto a partition with winxp home, now it simply says error loading operating system, after going through the install process, copy files import setting etc. any suggestions?
[08:39] <ezzieyguywuf> compiz rulez
[08:39] <therealnanotube> riotkittie: at least you'll have a working human at the end, right? :)
[08:39] <lunz> use:how to check my version?
[08:39] <progress0r> brb trying dwm
[08:39] <therealnanotube> riotkittie: aren't there any pci wifi cards that have non-prism chips?
[08:39] <lunz> u mean i have to update my graphic driver?
[08:40] <lunz> user:u mean i have to update my graphic driver?
[08:40] <therealnanotube> riotkittie: i don't know myself - i just have the intel 2200bg in my laptop, and it works, so i never had to learn about wifi chipsets and all that cruft.
[08:40] <lunz> user:how to check my version?
[08:40] <user_> Did you just install? Or using a live CD perhaps?
[08:40] <lunz> Using CD that they mailed..
[08:41] <Innomen> live CD, picked up at linux fest 07
[08:41] <riotkittie> therealnanotube: yes but my pci slots are packed with gfx, sound, and eSATA cards :|
[08:41] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/d291af265 please help  to run this shell script
[08:41] <user_> OK goto system,admin,software sources and look around there for a reference to dapper or fiesty in the sources
[08:42] <Innomen> for i386 systems dell gx270
[08:42] <lunz> user:Using CD that they mailed..
[08:42] <user_> theres gotta be a better way but that is easy
[08:42] <therealnanotube> heh well, then you may be better off just running some cat5 ;)
[08:42] <riotkittie> maybe  i will just move the modem so that i can connect to that through usb, and make my husband go wireless.
[08:42] <Innomen> i think i've responded to a qwuestion aimed at someone else, am i right?
[08:43] <leo_rockw> lunz, lsb_release -d
[08:43] <riotkittie> but that would be ridiculously simple
[08:43] <skinnypuppy1334> Any VNC users here ? Got a few questions.
[08:43] <leo_rockw> lunz, type that in terminal
[08:43] <lunz> user: i am totally a newbie in Ubuntu so what to look for?
[08:43] <lunz> user: i am totally a newbie in Ubuntu so what to look for?step by step much appreciated...
[08:44] <progress0r> ok, I unplugged and plugged in the device (usb) it says usb_device_eb1a_a310_noserial, how do i map that to the /dev/ device list?
[08:44] <leo_rockw> lunz, do you know how to open a terminal?
[08:44] <lunz> leo_rock : yes
[08:44] <user_> Terminal is your friend
[08:44] <leo_rockw> lunz, type lsb_release -d in terminal
[08:44] <lunz> i am opening now
[08:44] <leo_rockw> lunz, will give you your ubuntu version
[08:45] <overclucker> progress0r: what kind of device is this?
[08:45] <Innomen> where do i go for help with this issue?
[08:45] <lunz> Description:    Ubuntu 7.04
[08:45] <progress0r> overclucker: a tv tuner box :) probably the most frustrating da** thing ive ever bought and regret
[08:45] <leo_rockw> lunz, what video card do you have?
[08:45] <lunz> nvidia mx400
[08:45] <leo_rockw> lunz, is it a fresh install or are you using nvidia's drivers?
[08:46] <julz> the xubuntu site tells me i can install xubuntu through the ubuntu package manager, but i cant find it in there... is the site old or am i missing something?
[08:46] <Innomen> will someone tell me if my text is reaching the outside world?
[08:46] <progress0r> julz: try xubuntu-desktop
[08:46] <kennobaka> Innomen: yes
[08:46] <therealnanotube> Innomen: no, i think nothing is reaching :)
[08:46] <leo_rockw> julz, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:46] <riotkittie> julz; open a terminal and ... sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:46] <overclucker> progress0r: no clue where a tv tuner wouls reside in /dev
[08:46] <skinnypuppy1334><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:46] <progress0r> julz: make sure you the right repos setup
[08:46] <julz> thanks trying now
[08:46] <overclucker> would*
[08:46] <riotkittie> Innomen: yes
[08:46] <Innomen> kennobaka: would you have a theory as to why no one can help me?
[08:46] <progress0r> overclucker: same here
[08:46] <Innomen> thank you both
[08:47] <lunGez> GeForce MX 4000 AGP 8x
[08:47] <skinnypuppy1334> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[08:47] <progress0r> overclucker: i can see it when i do an lsusb but mythtv is looked for /dev/video0
[08:47] <mailavj> is there any way i can run modelsim in ubuntu.
[08:47] <skinnypuppy1334> Nvidia drivers for linux
[08:47] <lunGez> I am using nvidia driver
[08:47] <overclucker> progress0r: is it in /dev/input/by_id/ ?
[08:47] <lunGez> leo:I am using nvidia driver
[08:47] <progress0r> overclucker: checking
[08:47] <riotkittie> Innomen: ok, which OS are you being told there's an error loading?
[08:48] <therealnanotube> Innomen: because your question is hard :)
[08:48] <Innomen> i never get a chance to select an OS, i assume its trying to boot windows first
[08:48] <progress0r> overclucker: not listed there
[08:48] <leo_rockw> lunz, how did you install it?
[08:48] <julz> i got an error ans it asked if i am root. i am not logged in as root. how do i do this?
[08:48] <lunz> leo: i did not install it...auto install i think..
[08:48] <leo_rockw> julz, sudo
[08:49] <julz> oh i thought that was a typo, thanbks il ltry again
[08:49] <crazy_bus> I've got a geforce2mx.  And while it works with the default binary drivers in edgy in doesn't work with either the drivers installed by the script envy, or the restricted driver manager in feisty.  It just loads to a half loginscreen, half nvidia logo and freezes when installed by those methods.  How do I fix this?
[08:49] <leo_rockw> lunz, did you install any video driver after the fresh install?
[08:49] <lunz> yeah..
[08:49] <roel-> do-release-upgrade .. Checking for a new ubuntu release ; No new release found
[08:49] <jsc> #gentoo-amd64
[08:49] <Innomen> therealnanotube: excellent handle
[08:49] <roel-> should that work on feisty, to upgrade to 7.10?
[08:49] <leo_rockw> lunz, did you use envy or automatix?
[08:49] <lunz> before this i used Nvidia Geforce Ti400
[08:50] <therealnanotube> Innomen: glad you like. :)
[08:50] <lunz> leo before this i used Nvidia Geforce Ti400
[08:50] <lunz> leo what is envy or automatix?
[08:50] <Innomen> the world needs more physics buffs
[08:50] <leo_rockw> lunz, nothing. forget about those, lol
[08:50] <riotkittie> Innomen: i've never run into that myself, so i'm really at a loss. hm. stupid question but... your BIOS is set to boot from the HD?
[08:51] <Innomen> live booting from the cd allows me to see both the xp install and the ubuntu install and both apear fine
[08:51] <julz> i got "E: couldnt find package xubuntu-desktop"
[08:51] <leo_rockw> lunz, so you say you installed video drivers, but you don't remember how you did, right?
[08:51] <julz> it appears its just not there?
[08:51] <nomaS> see u later bye
[08:51] <lunz> leo can't ubuntu just automatically install my driver?
[08:51] <Innomen> riot: yes, but i'll go see if it lets me choose parition order *shrugs*
[08:51] <leo_rockw> julz, did you do "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" ?
[08:51] <leo_rockw> lunz, no, it can't. they are not free
[08:51] <Innomen> i'm luckily on a second system so you wont have to go without my presence :)
[08:51] <julz> yep, it started doing stuff but then i got that error
[08:52] <lunz> leo yes..i downloaded a software form ubuntu forum...and i did install it but i cant remember how i installed or using what program..
[08:52] <leo_rockw> julz, mmhhh... weird.
[08:52] <leo_rockw> lunz, well... that doesn't help much...
[08:52] <therealnanotube> Innomen: it needs more geeks of every sort, really. ;)
[08:52] <Innomen> i agree
[08:52] <lunz> leo,do i have to install new driver again?
[08:53] <julz> i tried it with the live cd in, but it didnt help...
[08:53] <Innomen> this seems like a big problem
[08:53] <leo_rockw> julz, try "apt-cache search xubuntu-desktop"
[08:53] <Innomen> it should have botted into one or the other
[08:53] <Innomen> do people typically not duel boot?
[08:53] <riotkittie> Innomen: i've been dual/triple/on-and-on booting for years
[08:54] <lunz> leo,can't ubuntu switch to any driver that will work best?
[08:54] <leo_rockw> lunz, no, it comes with free drivers
[08:54] <Innomen> so there is hope of finding a solution
[08:54] <neopsyche> has anyone experienced a corrupt ubuntu installation yet?
[08:54] <Innomen> i'm not doing something like trying to attach a blender to a microwave
[08:54] <leo_rockw> julz, did you see xubuntu-desktop in the list?
[08:54] <lunz> leo,meaning that i have to remove the old driver and install a new one?
[08:54] <neopsyche> I had ubuntu on a celeron.. and i had some boot issues with it.
[08:55] <Innomen> neopsyche: me of sorts
[08:55] <leo_rockw> lunz, just install the new driver. you don't need to remove the old one
[08:55] <user_> Nvidia drivers not always easy
[08:55] <overclucker> neopsyche: yup, but it was quickly found out
[08:55] <leo_rockw> lunz, i have ati, so i'm at a loss w/ nvidia
[08:55] <user_> Just install new yes
[08:55] <julz> i just did the search one, it just went to the next line without doing anything. and no i didnt see it in the list with synaptic
[08:55] <neopsyche> hmm
[08:55] <neopsyche> I like stable stuff :-)
[08:55] <riotkittie> Innomen: can you boot that up with the live CD? maybe a reinstall of GRUB will help :|
[08:55] <neopsyche> is 6.06 more stable
[08:55] <roel-> what's wrong when 'do-release-upgrade' doesn't work?
[08:55] <Innomen> its fine when installed byself
[08:55] <leo_rockw> julz, you didn't see it in the apt-cache search list? how odd
[08:55] <neopsyche> than feisty?
[08:56] <Innomen> yes i can, i will try
[08:56] <leo_rockw> julz, are you on feisty?
[08:56] <lunz> leo,ok let say i install a new one than if i changed it back to previous graphic card there should be no problem right?
[08:56] <user_> I run both , both are great!
[08:56] <user_> and Gutsy
[08:56] <Innomen> is it smart enough to install it to the drive?
[08:56] <leo_rockw> neopsyche, 6.06 is lts i believe
[08:56] <user_> Sure, it's lots faster
[08:56] <lunz> leo,ok let say i install a new one than if i changed it back to previous graphic card there should be no problem right?
[08:56] <leo_rockw> lunz, idk
[08:57] <riotkittie> Innomen: we're going to make it.
[08:57] <Innomen> hehe
[08:57] <lunz> leo,what is idk?
[08:57] <leo_rockw> lunz, idk = i dont know
[08:57] <Innomen> i thank you for your reassurance :)
[08:57] <overclucker> neopsyche: what does stable mean?
[08:57] <lunz> ok
[08:57] <leo_rockw> lunz, probably yeah. but i'm not sure
[08:58] <leo_rockw> user_, you're using gutsy?
[08:58] <user_> lunz if it doesn't work boot the live cd and find the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:58] <neopsyche> It seems a lot of software was created working with 6.06 that has slight issues with feisty
[08:58] <lunz> leo,ok now how to install my nvidia without using a command?
[08:58] <user_> yep gutsy on current machine
[08:58] <Innomen> the bios does not let me select spesific paritions to boot from
[08:58] <julz> leo, yes i am, i downloaded it today
[08:58] <Innomen> attempting the reinstall of grub
[08:58] <leo_rockw> user_, did you fresh install or upgraded?
[08:58] <user_> tribe 6 install +2 or so partial upgrades in the last two weeks
[08:59] <user_> LOVE IT
[08:59] <leo_rockw> user_, is the installation different from feisty? (i'm using gutsy, but i upgraded from feisty)
[08:59] <Innomen> i suppose its comforting as a windows user to have problems during an install, i'd feel dirty if i didnt
[08:59] <user_> no different
[08:59] <zero-9376> is anyone here familiar with using geany for latex editing, im trying to find out if it is possible to compile a file from within geany
[08:59] <lunz> leo,ok now how to install my nvidia?
[09:00] <riotkittie> when you boot the live CD  and get to the desktop, go to the applications menu > accessories, open the terminal
[09:00] <Innomen> alright
[09:00] <leo_rockw> julz, did you change your /etc/apt/sources.list at all?
[09:00] <ratz_fatz_68135> hallooo ... was geht ???
[09:00] <user_> lunz if it doesn't work boot the live cd and find the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... you can replace the one on your HDD in that live session if you screw it up no need to reinstall
[09:01] <Innomen> riotkittie: thank you for your help, regardless of outcome
[09:01] <leo_rockw> lunz, i believe there are linux drivers in nvidia.com
[09:01] <leo_rockw> lunz, idk how good/bad they are, tho
[09:01] <julz> nope, this is a fresh install
[09:01] <lunz> user,gosh..i dont want to screw up my ubuntu..i just updated my softwares..
[09:02] <lunz> and i love using konversation lol
[09:02] <leo_rockw> can someone on feisty do "apt-cache search xubuntu-desktop" from terminal for me?
[09:02] <user_> /etc/X11/xorg.conf will need to go to your hdd by probably looking in /media/hda1/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:03] <kennobaka> leo_rockw: xubuntu-desktop - Xubuntu desktop system
[09:03] <user_> lunz it is as simple as booting to the live cd and replacing that file if you goof it
[09:03] <leo_rockw> kennobaka, thanks
[09:03] <leo_rockw> julz, idk what's wrong. that package should be there.
[09:03] <riotkittie> no need to thank me ;) i just wish i was sure this would work.  do you have a terminal up yet?
[09:03] <leo_rockw> julz, did you do "sudo apt-get update" first?
[09:03] <user_> Once I realized I can rescue any config file like that I haven't been scared to mess with anything under the hood
[09:03] <julz> nope, i didnt. this comp its on doesnt have internet.
[09:04] <CamCarlos> hi people
[09:04] <leo_rockw> julz, ooo... lol
[09:04] <leo_rockw> julz, you won't be able to install w/o internet
[09:04] <user_> lunz following that?
[09:04] <Innomen> that freedom to tinker iw why i'm here in open source land
[09:04] <lunz> user,i try
[09:04] <Innomen> i'm tried of being told i cant
[09:04] <leo_rockw> julz, you need internet to install most of the stuff
[09:05] <lunz> user,how to go there?from a terminal?
[09:05] <Innomen> ok terminal is up
[09:05] <julz> hmmm, that is not good
[09:05] <riotkittie> lol. what irony ... to switch to linux b/c you're tired of being told you cant... only to be told you can't load an os
[09:05] <CamCarlos> Can anyone tell me why after installing Ubuntu for the first time Grub was not installed correctly? I chose the option where Ubuntu made all the decisions but when I boot my hard disk for my laptop is comes up with the word GRUB in the upmost left hand corner and nothing else happens!
[09:05] <lunz> user,how to go there?from a terminal?
[09:05] <Innomen> well it worked fine for my laptop
[09:05] <Innomen> i may be poushing my luck :)
[09:05] <g0dd3ss> hai everyone! can someone please tell me which folder to find gtkrc-2.0 in ? :)
[09:05] <leo_rockw> julz, you can download a xubuntu cd using another comp. and do a xubuntu fresh install.
[09:06] <user_> Do you get the idea that one config file while you are booted into a live cd doing a rescue will be at /etc/X11 and the one you want to replace will be somewhere in /media folder and will point to your hard drive
[09:06] <ce>  abiezzzzzzzzzzz
[09:06] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, locate gtkrc-2.0
[09:06] <riotkittie> Innomen: type sudo grub        ... and then  type find /boot/grub/stage1
[09:06] <Innomen> oky
[09:06] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, you may need to updatedb before doing that
[09:06] <Innomen> find?
[09:06] <riotkittie> find
[09:06] <g0dd3ss> i only have it in /usr/share/doc/gtk2-engines-thingeramik/examples/gtkrc-2.0
[09:06] <g0dd3ss> /usr/share/doc/gtk2-engines-geramik/examples/gtkrc-2.0
[09:07] <seme> hi guys... I must be doing something wrong... I can't find maven with apt-cache or apt-get
[09:07] <Innomen> i have a grub> prompt now
[09:07] <CamCarlos> I tried this command riotkittie and it sazs Error 15
[09:07] <seme> do I have to enable a repo for that?
[09:07] <lunz> user,i am sorry i don't know what are you talking about...:(
[09:07] <julz> thats what i did today. i downloaded it with this comp this morning, installed a few hours ago
[09:07] <g0dd3ss> i want to find the one to edit so my gnome panel text color can change
[09:07] <user_> lunz are you in a live cd boot session or in a normal boot up like it is installed on your pc?
[09:07] <julz> oh wait
[09:07] <Innomen> like use the search? with the guyi or the grub> thing?
[09:07] <julz> i see what you mean. yeah i think i will have to
[09:07] <Innomen> tell me what you are trying to do
[09:07] <lunz> normal boot up
[09:07] <leo_rockw> julz, xubuntu, not ubuntu
[09:07] <riotkittie> type it in the grub terminal
[09:08] <user_> Ok, when you boot a livecd it all runs in RAM
[09:08] <lunz> user i am in normal boot up..no cd in my drive
[09:08] <leo_rockw> !nvidia
[09:08] <Innomen> oh oh
[09:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:08] <Innomen> i missed the word "type"
[09:08] <leo_rockw> !nvidia | lunz
[09:08] <ubotu> lunz: please see above
[09:08] <Innomen> i thought you were telling me to "find"
[09:08] <CamCarlos> Error 15: File not found is what I get when I do a find :(
[09:08] <Innomen> sorry lol
[09:08] <g0dd3ss> leo_rockw, will that work if it is a .hidden file
[09:08] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, not sure.
[09:09] <g0dd3ss> leo_rockw, okey thanks
[09:09] <riotkittie> CamCarlos > hmm. do you have a /boot dir?
[09:09] <user_> We can rescue a crashed install from a live cd by copying the config files of the live cd over to the harddrive to replace the broken config file
[09:09] <eko__> ooo
[09:09] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, why would the file be hidden anyway?
[09:09] <Innomen> it says (hd2,1)
[09:09] <user_> it coppies from ram to the harddrive
[09:09] <CamCarlos> Well I am running the LiveCD but my hard disk is mounted on /media/disk
[09:09] <lunz> user, my system is not crashed and i just want to change my screen resolution..that's all..
[09:10] <CamCarlos> I have a /boot and a /media/disk/boot
[09:10] <leo_rockw> !nvidia | lunz
[09:10] <ubotu> lunz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:10] <user_> I'm just telling you how to recover very easy and not have to reinstall
[09:10] <g0dd3ss> leo_rockw, hummm idk, because it has important settings and they don't want the (L)users to screw it up :D
[09:10] <seme> anyone know which repository has maven?
[09:10] <riotkittie> Innomen: type  root (hd2,1)
[09:10] <user_> should it not work out
[09:10] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, it does find hidden files
[09:10] <CamCarlos> I was told Ubuntu would be easy to install :o
[09:10] <julz> leo, i think thats what i may have to get then. thanks a lot :)
[09:11] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, i have one here: /root/.gtkrc-2.0-kde
[09:11] <leo_rockw> julz, np
[09:11] <Innomen> done
[09:11] <Innomen> no echo, just return to grub>
[09:11] <riotkittie> Innomen: type setup (hd2)
[09:11] <g0dd3ss> leo_rockw, wah wah, it dosn't wanna find mine:(
[09:11] <riotkittie> then type quit  ... and reboot. see if that changes anything
[09:11] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, did you do updatedb?
[09:11] <Sleepy> Hi, got a small question. I got 4GB Ram & a Intel Core2Duo T7250... which Ubuntu Version do I need? The 64bit isofile says "....desktop-amd64.iso", which confuses me a bit ;)
[09:12] <lunz> user,01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]  (rev c1)
[09:12] <CamCarlos> I think this is the problem I have is that the find command returns no results....Maybe something went wrong with the installation...
[09:12] <g0dd3ss> leo_rockw, sorry, I do it now 8-]
[09:12] <Innomen> oky
[09:12] <Innomen> rebooting
[09:12] <lunz> user,does this mean i already installed the driver?
[09:12] <leo_rockw> Sleepy, if you never used linux it is better to start w/ the 32bit version. less problems
[09:12] <user_> Any experienced VNC users or other remote GUI gurus here? Trying to remote desktop another ubuntu on the lan with that user being able to still use the desktop. IE not just control it, but have a new gui session
[09:12] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, that updates the index data base
[09:12] <portablejim> How do I uninstall the Feisty wireless drivers?
[09:13] <g0dd3ss> leo_rockw, ok thanks
[09:13] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, np
[09:13] <Sleepy> leo, yeah, but I need the 64bit version to address the 4GB Ram, right?
[09:13] <AnAnt> hello, how can I add an alternative link for usplash-theme.so ?
[09:13] <leo_rockw> Sleepy, i really don't know, sorry
[09:13] <Innomen> well some progress
[09:13] <CamCarlos> riotkittie, Any idea why Grub would not be installed correctly after a first time install?
[09:13] <leo_rockw> Sleepy, i believe core2duo is 64, not sure tho
[09:13] <riotkittie> portablejim: i suppose you can just rm them but you may want to try blacklisting them first
[09:13] <Innomen> now when it boots i get a menu with ubuntu and xp listed among other things
[09:14] <ce_gokil> iljk
[09:14] <heguru> user_: you can enable XDMCP and launch another Xsession remotely
[09:14] <ce_gokil> ioyjtui
[09:14] <riotkittie> Innomen > and then what happens when you try to boot into one?
[09:14] <heguru> user_: is your remote client windows or Linux?
[09:14] <ce_gokil> jhkyhalo
[09:14] <Innomen> however when i try anything ubuntu it says error 22: no such partition
[09:14] <riotkittie> CamCarlos >   no idea.
[09:14] <user_> both ubuntu
[09:14] <leo_rockw> anybody here has experience using uswsups? (s2disk, s2ram, s2both)
[09:14] <ce_gokil> hola
[09:14] <CamCarlos> Boo Hoo
[09:14] <GNine> Sleepy, you got enuff firepower to run whatever you like.. just that AMD is not Intel
[09:14] <leo_rockw> ce_gokil, hello
[09:14] <Innomen> AND WHEN I TRY XP IT SAYS ERROR 13
[09:14] <riotkittie> Innomen: i am a big dummy. let's do the live cd thing again, back into a terminal
[09:14] <Innomen> sorry caps
[09:14] <Innomen> oky
[09:14] <Innomen> and no you arent
[09:14] <Innomen> obvious progress
[09:14] <user_> I can control with remote desktop no prob, how do I enable XDMCP ?
[09:15] <CamCarlos> Its really strange as all other Linux flavours I install always ask about installing the boot loader
[09:15] <overclucker> CamCarlos: just reinstall grub
[09:15] <leo__> Hi, I want to download ubuntu Studio, but there seems to be a difficulty. How do I get Ubuntu studio
[09:15] <CamCarlos> How?
[09:15] <Innomen> obviously ytou see what is happening
[09:15] <GNine> and any 32bit OS will work with your type of hardware, Sleepy
[09:15] <Sleepy> Gnie, I just selected 64bit at the downloadpage and the file reads ***-amd64.iso
[09:15] <overclucker> CamCarlos: it asks, but you have to see the check box
[09:15] <dhanjeet> hello any1 ever use LINBOX
[09:15] <leo_rockw> leo__, sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop should do the trick
[09:16] <ce_gokil> halo
[09:16] <CamCarlos> Hmmm I don't recall any check box... Should I go through the process manually?
[09:16] <overclucker> CamCarlos: have you heard of supergrub?
[09:16] <riotkittie> CamCarlos > the alternate install will ask. i think it may be an option on the live CD but its not really in lain view
[09:16] <CamCarlos> nope
[09:16] <riotkittie> plain*
[09:16] <ce_gokil> yuhuuy
[09:16] <dhanjeet> hello any1 ever use LINBOX
[09:16] <crazy6> why does ark not work?
[09:16] <Sleepy> Gnine, a 32bit OS will only address 3,2GB Ram... that would suck ;)
[09:16] <leo__> Ok I will try, thanks Leo Rockw
[09:16] <leo_rockw> leo__, np
[09:16] <shiznit> hi
[09:16] <g0dd3ss> can anyone tell me where 2 find .gtkrc-2.0 file in feisty
[09:16] <user_> heguru: they are both ubuntu boxes, where do you enable XDMCP ?
[09:16] <riotkittie> where does GRUB typically install with the Live CD? MBR?
[09:16] <Innomen> whats good about it? *grumble*
[09:16] <Innomen> just kidding :)
[09:17] <heguru> user_: ok on the server, enable XDMCP (edit /etc/gdm.conf)
[09:17] <GNine> well.. then look somewhere else.. thats whats in the menu for your cookie monster
[09:17] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, lol i have one in /home/leo/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.0
[09:17] <heguru> user_: feisty?
[09:17] <user_> I'll check that conf, thanks
[09:17] <Innomen> *perk* cookie?
[09:17] <user_> one fiesty one dapper one gutsy
[09:17] <overclucker> CamCarlos: supergrub is a live cd, or diskette that will help you do many different grub related tasks
[09:17] <heguru> user_: which one is the server (where you want to connect)
[09:17] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, another one in /home/leo/pidgin-2.2.1/doc-pak/doc/gtkrc-2.0
[09:17] <CamCarlos> oh ok
[09:18] <overclucker> !supergrub
[09:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about supergrub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:18] <user_> Need to go in all three directions eventually
[09:18] <CamCarlos> Just reading the webpage
[09:18] <GNine> besides.. 4gigs of RAM is way too much for ANY application or even SET of apps .. overkill, sleey
[09:18] <overclucker> ahh
[09:18] <heguru> hmm ok
[09:18] <GNine> Sleepy,
[09:18] <darkchr0n0s> a cat woke me up :@
[09:18] <heguru> user_: two things you have to change in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[09:18] <user_> So gdm.conf on the server
[09:19] <leo_rockw> anybody here has experience using uswsups? (s2disk, s2ram, s2both)
[09:19] <user_> Alright
[09:19] <Innomen> terminal up
[09:19] <heguru> user_: change disallowTCP to false
[09:19] <heguru> user_: and under [xdmcp]  section set Enable=true
[09:19] <heguru> user_: then restart gdm: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:20] <riotkittie> Innomen: okay, type sudo grub ...  then type  root (hd2,3)  ... then setup (hd2,3), then quit & reboot.
[09:20] <user_> Ok just sudo gedited it , I'll do that thanks
[09:20] <heguru> user_: all this on the server
[09:20] <Innomen> oky
[09:20] <heguru> user_: on the client just run Xephyr or Xnest (you have to install then with apt-get if not installed)
[09:20] <Innomen> says no such partition
[09:21] <riotkittie> what says no such partition? root or setup?
[09:21] <Innomen> root
[09:21] <g0dd3ss> leo_rockw, thankx, i dont think the pidgin one is what i want
[09:21] <Innomen> wasnt the find 1,2 ?
[09:21] <riotkittie> ok. type find /boot/grub/stage1
[09:21] <Innomen> i dont understand what we're doing so pardoin the dumbness heheh
[09:21] <riotkittie> yea 2,1.
[09:21] <g0dd3ss> 8-}
[09:22] <Innomen> (hd2,1)
[09:22] <riotkittie> the later it gets, the dumber i grow. that explains a lot.  <longs for coffee>
[09:22] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, i run kde, so all the other ones i have are called gtkrc-2.0-kde
[09:22] <Innomen> you not dumb
[09:22] <Innomen> me dumb
[09:22] <Innomen> *thumps head*
[09:22] <Innomen> see? *drool*
[09:22] <riotkittie> yep. (hd2,1) for setup and root then reboot. if that fails , we'll try the MBR route
[09:22] <g0dd3ss> leo_rockw, okk 8-]
[09:22] <GNine> all hdd's show up at front desk , dinner is served!
[09:22] <Innomen> same as bove in same order?
[09:23] <riotkittie> heehee
[09:23] <riotkittie> yep. same order.
[09:23] <Innomen> root (hd2,1)  ... then setup (hd2,1), then quit & reboot.
[09:23] <Innomen> just confirmiung
[09:23] <riotkittie> yep
[09:23] <Innomen> oky
[09:24] <GNine> :-P
[09:24] <leo_rockw> anybody here has experience using uswsups? (s2disk, s2ram, s2both)
[09:24] <Innomen> simple little thing
[09:25] <Innomen> gah
[09:25] <emaconline> hello.. anyone knows how i can integrate my thunderbird to the system calendar?
[09:25] <riotkittie> not working?
[09:25] <Innomen> same errors, menu, no such parition. or error 13
[09:25] <emaconline> previously i am using evolution and evolution is attached to the system calendar and can see my tasks to do on the system calendar..
[09:26] <emaconline> thunderbird apparently cant do that
[09:26] <emaconline> any help?
[09:26] <MartinW> I have a bit of trouble with easyUbuntu, when I check the boxes and click ok it gives me a long list of packages which go ofscreen and I can't click the button to give it persmission.
[09:26] <GNine> i do like the look of thunderbird better tho
[09:27] <GNine> evolution is an all around excellent app but .. too serious in design
[09:27] <GNine> heh
[09:27] <leo_rockw> !easyubuntu
[09:27] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[09:28] <leo_rockw> !easyubuntu | MartinW
[09:28] <ubotu> MartinW: please see above
[09:28] <GNine> blah
[09:28] <heguru> emaconline: sorry thunderbird doesn't integrate with the system calendar, maybe there is an addon somewhere
[09:28] <SpiderPig> how do i check if i have gtk+1.2 installed?
[09:28] <MartinW> Sorry!
[09:28] <portablejim> How do I uninstall the Feisty wireless drivers that come with Feisty?
[09:29] <GNine> !synaptic | portablejim
[09:29] <ubotu> portablejim: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:29] <riotkittie> anyone here good with GRUB issues? :P
[09:29] <Innomen> :)
[09:29] <kahrytan> !fonts
[09:29] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[09:29] <Innomen> whats does it mean when it says error no such paritition?
[09:30] <SpiderPig> how do i check if i have gtk+ installed?
[09:30] <Innomen> when i can clearly see both paritions in question when booted from the live cd?
[09:30] <leo_rockw> riotkittie, i've been kinda following. would it be a good idea to use lilo and ditch grub?
[09:30] <shiznit> y is a wma stream not working? i have the mplayer firefox plugin
[09:30] <skinnypuppy1334> First time I've seen easyubuntu
[09:30] <Innomen> xp home ubuntu 7.04 duel boot
[09:30] <Daverocks> Innomen: is grub what's saying "no such partition"?
[09:30] <GNine> !synaptic
[09:30] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:30] <Innomen> i assume grub is the boot loading application, if so then yes
[09:30] <riotkittie> leo__: no clue. i havent touched LILO since 2004
[09:31] <skinnypuppy1334> grub is boot loader
[09:31] <leo_rockw> riotkittie, me neither, but it is a mbr solution.
[09:31] <Innomen> day 3 of ubuntu for me pardon the ignorance
[09:31] <Daverocks> Innomen: was it always like this, or did it once work?
[09:31] <shiznit> what was the command to find where an application is located
[09:31] <SpiderPig> how do i check what apps are installed in ubuntu?
[09:31] <bobslaede> hey everybody. Is there a program in existence, that would enable me to search thru my pictures, finding the right picture, from a thumbnail? It would search for the likeness of the the pictures, not filenaes.
[09:31] <leo_rockw> !synaptic | SpiderPig
[09:31] <ubotu> SpiderPig: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:31] <bobslaede> filenames*
[09:32] <Innomen> new install, previously would not boot at all said error loading os, then riotkittie came in and fixed it to the point of now at least attempting to boot
[09:32] <GNine> having a live cd or your ubuntu install cd could help you lots
[09:32] <SpiderPig> leo rockw ok ill give that a try
[09:32] <Daverocks> shiznit: "whereis" checks for common locations
[09:32] <leo_rockw> bobslaede, if you can find such aplication let me know, lol
[09:32] <Innomen> at which point i get no such partition, or unrecognized format
[09:32] <shiznit> thats right
[09:32] <bobslaede> leo_rockw: i will... heh
[09:32] <shiznit> ty daverocks
[09:32] <leo_rockw> bobslaede, i don't think smth like that exists
[09:33] <leo_rockw> bobslaede, in any system
[09:33] <bobslaede> leo_rockw: i've seen something like it on the web once, but it was a "search engine"
[09:33] <GNine> bobslaede, i have a brain program for that
[09:33] <Daverocks> Innomen: that may be a worse problem, heh
[09:33] <shiznit> Daverocks, it found 2 locations, how do i know which one is the excecutable that i need to add to autostart
[09:33] <bobslaede> GNine: v-grep?
[09:33] <bobslaede> :p
[09:33] <Innomen> the drives are there, it seems it just dosent know which ones to boot too
[09:33] <bobslaede> visual grep :)
[09:33] <Innomen> and its too stupid to give me the choice
[09:33] <Daverocks> shiznit: do "type myprogram" and that'll show which executable is being executed when you type it in bash
[09:34] <kahrytan> shiznit, /usr/bin/ is where binaries are stored
[09:34] <Daverocks> kahrytan: not necessarily
[09:34] <shiznit> what about usr/share it found that as well
[09:34] <kahrytan> shiznit, bin ... get it. binary
[09:34] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, kewl, didn't know that!
[09:34] <kahrytan> Dave123, true but most often.
[09:34] <Daverocks> shiznit: that's probably not a binary
[09:34] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, the type myprogram thing
[09:34] <Daverocks> leo_rockw: oh, no problem :P
[09:34] <Daverocks> leo_rockw: "which" does the same thing as well
[09:34] <shiznit> so which location do i add to the autostart lost
[09:35] <Innomen> hmmm
[09:35] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, ty
[09:35] <shiznit> list*
[09:35] <GNine> however, i follow the file organitzational logic of  f-spot and i can find anything i want
[09:35] <Innomen> it let me edit, and i changed it to 1 and then 2 instead of 2,1, and both times it said cannot mount partition
[09:35] <Daverocks> shiznit: the one that "type" gives you is probably the best
[09:35] <shiznit> type?
[09:36] <bobslaede> GNine: fspot is ok, but its a wierd little problem i have
[09:36] <bobslaede> trying to replace every image of a docx file, with the correct image of better resolution, heh
[09:36] <Daverocks> shiznit: "type theprogram"
[09:36] <_polto_> hello all
[09:36] <leo_rockw> hello _polto_
[09:37] <GreyWolfe> Hi, I am having a problem connecting a USB drive to my computer. I can run fdisk in the terminal and have the disk recognized, but GParted won't recognize it and I can't navigate to it from nautilus
[09:37] <GNine> well.  you said you got thumbnails working.  the files are all sorted by date.. follow the date to the file you're looking for
[09:37] <shiznit> im lost
[09:37] <Daverocks> shiznit: you typed "whereis theprogram", right?
[09:37] <bobslaede> GNine: its 1161 thumbnails
[09:37] <Daverocks> shiznit: instead of the command being "whereis", the command is "type"
[09:37] <bobslaede> and my deadline is in 7 hours...
[09:37] <peter_> can anyone help me with a webcam problem :?:)
[09:37] <citute> hello all
[09:38] <leo_rockw> !ask | peter_
[09:38] <ubotu> peter_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:38] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: so the disk _does_ appear in /dev
[09:38] <shiznit> ok i get it, its in the /urs/bin
[09:38] <peter_> thanks:)
[09:38] <GNine> oh.. well.. i have all my pictures sorted properly ..  excellent organizational skills do come handy
[09:38] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Yea
[09:38] <shiznit> strange, i had to add fusion-icon from /usr/share...
[09:38] <bobslaede> GNine: mines sorted to, by product number so to speak, but all the pictures in the docx file, is called image1.jpeg, image2.jpeg and so forth..
[09:38] <peter_> ok so i have  awebcam that i dont think is supported by ubuntu but i just tried it in ekiga ans to my suprise the thing is working ?
[09:39] <riotkittie> we could try sudo grub ...  root (hd2,3)  ... then setup (hd0) to see if putting it in the MBR would help. but im not sure it would :\
[09:39] <_polto_> can somebody help me with launchpad  ? i'm trying to upload a modified version of mplayer, but it lack all dependencies... how can i include dependencies to compile on PPA ?
[09:39] <shiznit> im gonna try if this works
[09:39] <bobslaede> hehe, GNine and the thumbnails in docx, are all from 1980-01-01
[09:39] <GNine> cant help you there.. there is no query that could help you if you dont know what you're looking for
[09:39] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Ahh, after trying to force the mount from the terminal, it says the drive is the wrong filesystem, any idea how I can fix that?
[09:40] <bobslaede> GNine: thanks anyways
[09:40] <bobslaede> :)
[09:40] <darkchr0n0s> anyone knows a "on demand" streaming server ?
[09:40] <bobslaede> i'll just get abck to work :)
[09:40] <peter_> ok so i have  awebcam that i dont think is supported by ubuntu but i just tried it in ekiga ans to my suprise the thing is working ?
[09:40] <leo_rockw> peter_, what's the question?
[09:40] <darkchr0n0s> i want to install an on demand linux streaming server, on a pc with can stream videos
[09:40] <Innomen> how does ubuntu respond to being moved after its installed?
[09:40] <darkchr0n0s> which*
[09:40] <shiznit> ok that works, ty
[09:41] <Innomen> what do i do now?
[09:41] <Innomen> heheh
[09:41] <shiznit> finally i have a dock :)
[09:41] <peter_> well my question is how do i make it work for kopete as well as ekiga
[09:41] <MoNsTeR> shiznit, can you help me get the rocketdock
[09:41] <g0dd3ss> hi everyone! can someoone please tell me where to find .gtkrc-2.0 file in feisty??
[09:41] <Innomen> can i live boot and tell ubuntu "boot from this partition right now" ?
[09:41] <shiznit> monster, i dont know anything about that, im using avant
[09:42] <GreyWolfe> g0dd3ss: Did you try searching for it?
[09:42] <riotkittie> nope. cant boot that way :|
[09:42] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with getting my printer working its like on my network and i wanna print from my computer to my dads computer down the hall
[09:42] <g0dd3ss> yesss I did GreyWolfe
[09:42] <MoNsTeR> shiznit, whats avant
[09:42] <riotkittie> g0dd3ss:  ~ ?
[09:42] <shiznit> monster, a dock
[09:42] <Innomen> oky
[09:42] <MoNsTeR> shiznit, can you tell me where to get it
[09:42] <g0dd3ss> it's not there riotkittie :-S
[09:42] <leo_rockw> MoNsTeR, if his comp has win you need samba i believe
[09:42] <shiznit> ill give you the repo
[09:42] <citute> hi albertop
[09:42] <GNine> ha!  its a hidden file i guess
[09:42] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: are you specifying just /dev/sdz or also the partition (like /dev/sdz1)?
[09:42] <riotkittie> g0dd3ss > and you're either ls -a'ing. or have unhidden it?
[09:43] <MoNsTeR> leo_rockw, yeah it has widows hehe
[09:43] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: The drive has no partitions listen under fdisk
[09:43] <g0dd3ss> yes i unhid everything riotkittie
[09:43] <leo_rockw> MoNsTeR, then you need samba to share the printer.
[09:43] <_polto_> anybody familiar with launchpad's PPA ?  i'm trying to upload a modified version of mplayer, but it lack all dependencies... how can i include dependencies to compile on PPA ?
[09:43] <citute> can somebody elp me to do my home work?
[09:44] <Innomen> lol
[09:44] <peter_> lol
[09:44] <Innomen> awesome
[09:44] <shiznit> monster, eb http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42 gutsy all
[09:44] <shiznit> deb-src http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42 gutsy all
[09:44] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: and not in /dev either?
[09:44] <leo_rockw> citute, is it free homework? or propietary?
[09:44] <GreyWolfe> g0dd3ss: Go to your home folder, unhide everything, I found mine there no problem
[09:44] <_polto_> citute, sure
[09:44] <_polto_> :)
[09:44] <peter_> lol
[09:44] <Innomen> what version is your homework?
[09:44] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: like you see /dev/sdz in /dev, but any sdz1, sdz2 etc?
[09:44] <shiznit> monster, never mind
[09:44] <shiznit> that wont work
[09:44] <g0dd3ss> i did GreyWolfe :( it doesn't seem to be there :-S
[09:44] <Innomen> hmwrk.dll
[09:44] <skinnypuppy1334> heguru: What do I need to do to Xephyr into that server i changed the config file on earlier?
[09:44] <shiznit> someone gave me the repos but i had to add a key and stuff, have no clue how to do that
[09:44] <Innomen> *snicker*
[09:44] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Not in there either, only sdc, no sdc1
[09:45] <SpiderPig> how do i copy a file from one place to another?
[09:45] <leo_rockw> anybody here has experience using uswsusp? (s2disk, s2ram, s2both)
[09:45] <peter_> homework.deb lol
[09:45] <leo_rockw> peter_, that's not a correct package. it lacks version and architecture
[09:45] <peter_> :( my bad
[09:45] <leo_rockw> peter_, lol
[09:45] <riotkittie> g0dd3ss: open a term and ... sudo updatedb && locate .gtkrc-2.0
[09:45] <heguru> skinnypuppy1334: Xephy -query yourserverip :3
[09:45] <GNine> have you consider the possibility that you might not have it at all , g0dd3ss
[09:45] <heguru> *Xephyr
[09:45] <skinnypuppy1334> thanks again
[09:45] <MoNsTeR> shiznit, im on feisty ill try to get it
[09:45] <g0dd3ss> riotkittie, ok i just did that updatedb thing liek 5 mins ago
[09:46] <shiznit> oh ok
[09:46] <GreyWolfe> g0dd3ss: was there any file with a name starting with gtkrc? Mine had a different name.
[09:46] <citute> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee sorry guys Im just kidding,
[09:46] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, did you sudo the updatedb?
[09:46] <peter_> i'm still having a problem with my webcam :(
[09:46] <g0dd3ss> GNine,  why would that be? sorry im a noob
[09:46] <GNine> bingo
[09:46] <g0dd3ss> yes leo_rockw
[09:46] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, if you can't find it w/ locate... then you probly not have it
[09:46] <MoNsTeR> leo_rockw, where can i get samba
[09:46] <GNine> why do you need to find that file , g0dd3ss
[09:46] <riotkittie> oh dear. my kid's going to be up in two hours.  i should go to bed :o
[09:46] <amro> what does "tar -A"mean? Would someone give me a example?
[09:46] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: and dmesg doesn't show anything about partitions being found...?
[09:47] <g0dd3ss> GNine,  i wanna change the color of the text in my gnome panel 8-]
[09:47] <riotkittie> MoNsTeR : it's in the repos
[09:47] <leo_rockw> MoNsTeR, my first guess would be synaptic
[09:47] <Innomen> night riotkittie
[09:47] <riotkittie> sudo aptitude install samba
[09:47] <Innomen> thank you :)
[09:47] <MoNsTeR> riotkittie, leo_rockw , thanks
[09:47] <riotkittie> nite Innomen. hope someone comes along who can help you solve it. GRUB can be evil. :P
[09:47] <riotkittie> nite everyone
[09:47] <leo_rockw> MoNsTeR, setting samba up is a different story lol
[09:47] <zoiks> If i want to make a linux softraid, do i create to raid first and then make partitions within that raid or do I make the partitions and raid the partitions together?
[09:47] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: [387826.973819]  UDF-fs: No partition found (1)
[09:48] <peter_> can someone explain to me why my cam would work in ekiga and not be detected by canorama or kopete?
[09:48] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: well it's highly unlikely you'd have a UDF partition on a flash drive :P
[09:48] <amro> what does "tar -A"mean? Would someone give me a example?
[09:48] <MoNsTeR> leo_rockw, is it hard if it is im gonna need help im prety new to linux
[09:48] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/m4edc25b3 please help me i got this error when i am tring to install prozilla a download manager
[09:48] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: What am I looking for in there, can I pastebin the outout?
[09:48] <GNine> try applications > settings > settings manager   g0dd3ss   you might not need a manual edit
[09:49] <leo_rockw> MoNsTeR, there are many guides on the web. just google samba printer or smth like that
[09:49] <MoNsTeR> ok
[09:49] <skinnypuppy1334> heguru: right after doing the debian login in the new window it crashes and coredumps ... fiesty client gutsy server
[09:49] <leo_rockw> MoNsTeR, i don't have a printer and I don't have win... lol
[09:49] <darkchr0n0s> ksivaji, use wget.. it works
[09:49] <peter_>  can someone explain to me why my cam would work in ekiga and not be detected by canorama or kopete?
[09:49] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: you're looking for a line like "new partition" something
[09:49] <leo_rockw> !repeat | peter_
[09:49] <ubotu> peter_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:49] <shiznit> can anyone help me get this audio stream working?
[09:49] <darkchr0n0s> peter_ ur cam works.. mine doesn't at all :\
[09:49] <ksivaji> darkchr0n0s but i doesnt provides resume support
[09:49] <ksivaji> darkchr0n0s but it* doesnt provides resume support
[09:50] <darkchr0n0s> ksivaji use wget -c <link>
[09:50] <peter_> oh i 'm not familiar with here ....i just thought it went by unoticed ...my baaaayd :(
[09:50] <ksivaji> darkchr0n0s ok
[09:50] <MoNsTeR> leo_rockw, lol but my dad doesnt wanna switch other wise i wouldnt either
[09:50] <heguru> skinnypuppy1334: can you try the other way around? it might be a gutsy issue as it uses lots of cutting edge stuff
[09:50] <Daverocks> !info prozilla
[09:50] <ubotu> Package prozilla does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:50] <darkchr0n0s> peter_ nothing you type gets un-noticed
[09:50] <peter_> it doesnt really work though
[09:50] <darkchr0n0s> what is prozilla ?
[09:51] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Not seeing anything like that
[09:51] <Daverocks> darkchr0n0s: a download manager, like kget, or FDM on windows
[09:51] <skinnypuppy1334> heguru: Good Idea, what versions have you run it with?
[09:51] <GNine> !kopete
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <shiznit> downthemall is a all you need
[09:51] <GNine> ha!
[09:51] <g0dd3ss> gnine where
[09:51] <GNine> me neither
[09:51] <g0dd3ss> lol
[09:51] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: and gparted doesn't show any partitions?
[09:51] <heguru> skinnypuppy1334: gutsy,feisty client dapper,edgy,feisty server
[09:51] <g0dd3ss> gahh i hate being a dumbass noob
[09:51] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: as in, does it actually show unallocated space?
[09:51] <darkchr0n0s> torrents is all we need :-}
[09:51] <peter_> join the club
[09:51] <leo_rockw> MoNsTeR, install ciberlinux, he won't notice the difference lol http://tecnicoslinux.com.ar/web/node/125 (just look at the screenshots)
[09:52] <MoNsTeR> whatever nobody can help me with samba
[09:52] <shiznit> does bittyrant work in ubuntu
[09:52] <GNine> !samba
[09:52] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:52] <skinnypuppy1334> heguru: thats terrific to hear. Thank you for your help
[09:52] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Gparted doesnt even show the drive at all, it detects a drive that isnt even connected
[09:52] <Daverocks> shiznit: it's java, so it should
[09:52] <heguru> peter_: in ekiga, what is your selected video manager v4l or v4l2?
[09:52] <spiderfire> hi
[09:52] <peter_> v4l2
[09:52] <zoiks> If i want to make a linux softraid, do i create to raid first and then make partitions within that raid or do I make the partitions and raid the partitions together?
[09:52] <MoNsTeR> leo_rockw, my dad uses media center like theres no tomorrow
[09:53] <spiderfire> whats the unstable ubuntu called?
[09:53] <skinnypuppy1334> gutsy
[09:53] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, gutsy
[09:53] <Daverocks> shiznit: there's a linux download link on the bittyrant website
[09:53] <spiderfire> anyone here running gutsy?
[09:53] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, i am
[09:53] <leo_rockw> !gutsy | spiderfire
[09:53] <ubotu> spiderfire: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:53] <skinnypuppy1334> It's not too unstable been using almost 3 weeks no prob
[09:53] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with avant dock
[09:53] <spiderfire> leo_rockw: how is it?
[09:53] <tat> zoiks: you make raid autodetect-partitions, and create raids of them
[09:53] <skinnypuppy1334> It ROCKS
[09:54] <Irreducibilis> Is there a scrap of good left in anyone?
[09:54] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: ... and... this flash drive works perfectly on windows?
[09:54] <zoiks> tat: so create the partitions first
[09:54] <spiderfire> how do i download gutsy?
[09:54] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, i don't notice too much of a difference. but then again, i had everything working already.
[09:54] <zoiks> tat: also do i use mdadm?
[09:54] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: I have no idea, I don't have windows on my computer
[09:54] <Daverocks> Irreducibilis: if you're lucky ;)
[09:54] <heguru> peter_: and what camera do you have? v4l2 in kopete is unstable
[09:54] <tat> zoiks: yes and yes, im sure you can find some decent how to's on the net
[09:54] <daya> in which section should I specify the frequency parameter in xorg.conf file,
[09:55] <punzada> anyone ever have the issue when transferring a folder that KFTPGrabber just skips a file for no peticular reason?
[09:55] <punzada> ;/
[09:55] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, you can either upgrade from feisty or download a live cd
[09:55] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: is there meant to be data on this usb already, or is it new?
[09:55] <SpiderPig> what does this mean : To install pysoulseek from the source tree run the following:
[09:55] <SpiderPig> python setup.py install --prefix=<dir>
[09:55] <zoiks> tat thanks
[09:55] <spiderfire> leo_rockw: can i install from the livecd?
[09:55] <peter_> when i type lsusb   i get Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0301 WebCam
[09:55] <SpiderPig> what does the --prefix=dir part mean?
[09:55] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, from a gutsy live cd
[09:55] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with avant dock
[09:55] <spiderfire> leo_rockw: do you know the link to the gutsy?
[09:55] <shiznit> how do i see what version of java i have?
[09:56] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/gutsybeta
[09:56] <taurusivy> how can i download through ftp using proxy with wget or lftp
[09:56] <SpiderPig> shiznit check synaptic
[09:56] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: There was data on it, but I formatted it in Gparted
[09:56] <taurusivy> seems to me it's not working
[09:56] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, if i were you i would wait till release
[09:56] <Daverocks> SpiderPig: it's like the install prefix, you don't have to give the option, by default it's usually /usr or /usr/local (can't remember what it is by default in ubuntu)
[09:56] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: It just randomly stopped working
[09:56] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, october 18th
[09:56] <christopher_> in ubuntu i dont care much for gnome and i decided to install kde after I have it how do i uninstlall gnome?
[09:56] <shiznit> spiderpig, i dont have jre5 or 6
[09:56] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: hm, if it works in fdisk, can you make a new partition with fdisk?
[09:57] <heguru> peter_: i don't use kopete, but just check if there is an option to switch to v4l2 somewhere in the preferences?
[09:57] <spiderfire> leo_rockw: why should i wait?
[09:57] <SpiderPig> Dave rocks so what should i type for this to install? sudo python setup.py
[09:57] <SpiderPig> ?
[09:57] <Daverocks> SpiderPig: make sure you're in the same folder as the setup.py file, then try "sudo python setup.py install"
[09:57] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, it is still buggy. if you decide to install it don't do it in a production comp
[09:57] <skinnypuppy1334> what is the terminal equivelent to c:\dir *.mp3 /s  ?
[09:57] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Don't know how to do that
[09:57] <SpiderPig> daverocks ok uno momento
[09:57] <spiderfire> leo_rockw: ok
[09:58] <taurusivy> i use: wget -r -nH --user=xx --password=xxxx --proxy ftp://<IP_ADDRESS>/dir/
[09:58] <Daverocks> skinnypuppy1334: "ls -l *.mp3" ?
[09:58] <SpiderPig> daverocks ok now it did alot of stuff
[09:58] <taurusivy> and i config in .wgetrc : ftp_proxy=<ip>:<port>
[09:58] <skinnypuppy1334> Daverocks: thank you
[09:58] <taurusivy> is that not enough?
[09:58] <christopher_> also what is the best dock in kde?
[09:58] <SpiderPig> daverocks is it installed now?
[09:58] <leo_rockw> anybody here has experience using uswsusp? (s2disk, s2ram, s2both)
[09:59] <Daverocks> SpiderPig: did it report success?
[09:59] <leo_rockw> christopher_, i have ksmoothdock
[09:59] <christopher_> is what I have
[09:59] <leo_rockw> christopher_, is the one that gave me less problems
[09:59] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: "n" to add a new partition
[09:59] <christopher_> ty
[09:59] <roel-> what's wrong when 'do-release-upgrade' doesn't work?
[10:00] <christopher_> how do i install it in kubuntu
[10:00] <christopher_> got it on my gentoo box
[10:00] <christopher_> sudo apt-get install ksmoothdock?
[10:00] <SpiderPig> davrocks no it did not but it i did pyslsk and it started so i guess it works. thanks
[10:00] <leo_rockw> christopher_, exactly
[10:00] <christopher_> ty
[10:00] <leo_rockw> christopher_, np
[10:00] <TheSkorm> sudo apt-get install ya_mum
[10:00] <christopher_> im liking the whole not leaving cli behind
[10:00] <peter_> i'm not seeing an option to switch to v4l2 , it doesnt even see the cam in kopete
[10:01] <leo_rockw> TheSkorm, i tried that... i had a dependency nightmare
[10:01] <Daverocks> SpiderPig: good, it works, now just be careful not to break it, lol
[10:01] <TheSkorm> leo_rockw: did you add family tree into sources.list
[10:01] <leo_rockw> christopher_, i doubt linux will ever leave the cli behind. cli rocks
[10:01] <leo_rockw> TheSkorm, oh snap! should try that again then. lol
[10:01] <christopher_> there is one distro currently trying
[10:02] <christopher_> pclos
[10:02] <leo_rockw> christopher_, i'd actually switch to slackware if i didn't like my current installation. i like compiling (yeah, i'm crazy)
[10:03] <christopher_> is why i have gentoo
[10:03] <christopher_> i figured id give *buntu for a run
[10:03] <leo_rockw> christopher_, i haven't tried gentoo yet.
[10:03] <christopher_> gentoo is the next best thing to LFS
[10:03] <christopher_> its all about your choice
[10:04] <leo_rockw> christopher_, that's what i did. i decided to try kubuntu and i liked it. i'm probly switching to debian soon. and then maybe gentoo.
[10:04] <lunz> how to add dual boot to my ubuntu?anyone can guide me step by step?
[10:04] <Daverocks> leo_rockw: hang on, you LIKE compiling and HAVEN'T tried gentoo? does.. not.. make.. sense
[10:04] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, i was a slackware user
[10:04] <TheSkorm> linux mint, or you could just go straight to bsd (freebsd) where real men live
[10:04] <Daverocks> leo_rockw: fair enough, but still.. :P
[10:04] <christopher_> gentoo has less packages with portage just the ones everyone wants
[10:04] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, gentoo wasn't around when i started using slackware
[10:04] <shiznit> does linux have upnp?
[10:04] <christopher_> debian has the most packages
[10:04] <christopher_> my first distro was slack 5
[10:04] <heguru> shiznit: client or server?
[10:05] <neopsyche> what is a good ftp gui to run on ubuntu? gftp is ok but it doesnt have a copy / paste feature last time i checked
[10:05] <heguru> shiznit: upnpd is the server
[10:05] <leo_rockw> slackware 7.1 was my first distro ever. and i compiled my kernel on the same day i did that installation
[10:05] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: can you give more explanation, I did that and it gives more options
[10:05] <christopher_> back when linux was still hard to install was kinda nice
[10:05] <shiznit> heguru, the one that forwards ports for you
[10:05] <christopher_> i miss it
[10:05] <shiznit> i think its called upnp
[10:05] <spiderfire> is gusty alsmost a full 6 months already?
[10:05] <Daverocks> Greyhound-: select primary partition
[10:05] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: ^^
[10:06] <spiderfire> i thought its released every 6 months
[10:06] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Ok, then?
[10:06] <heguru> shiznit: upnpd is the upnp daemon, you have to install it on the router/nat/firewall
[10:06] <shiznit> its enabled on my router
[10:06] <neopsyche> what is a good ftp gui to run on ubuntu? gftp is ok but it doesnt have a copy / paste feature last time i checked
[10:06] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, feisty was released on april, gutsy on october
[10:06] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, 6 months release schedule
[10:06] <lunz> leo,how to add dual boot to my ubuntu?anyone can guide me step by step?
[10:06] <heguru> shiznit: ok on the client side, upnp is application specific
[10:06] <Daverocks> Greyhound-: now you probably want partition number 1
[10:06] <spiderfire> leo_rockw: didnt know time flied so fast
[10:06] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with avant dock
[10:06] <christopher_> i didnt know kubuntu existed otherwise i woulda dloaded it in iso instead
[10:06] <heguru> shiznit: azureus, limewire are two applications that have upnp built-in
[10:06] <christopher_> lol
[10:07] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Ok, did that.
[10:07] <shiznit> heguru, and it will work automatically?
[10:07] <leo_rockw> lunz, it did it automagically for me.
[10:07] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me install AWN
[10:07] <heguru> shiznit: just enable upnp on the router and on your clients and rest is all done for you automatically
[10:07] <leo_rockw> christopher_, i didn't even bother trying ubuntu. i'm all about kde
[10:08] <christopher_> me2
[10:08] <neopsyche> ubuntu is not a gui
[10:08] <shiznit> heguru, ok ty
[10:08] <SpiderPig> any1 got soulseek installed?
[10:08] <christopher_> jus didnt know it existed i suppose i was too lazy to look harder
[10:08] <leo_rockw> neopsyche, no, but gnome is
[10:08] <christopher_> :P
[10:08] <neopsyche> yes.. but then perhaps you were referring to kubuntu?
[10:09] <leo_rockw> neopsyche, well i said "i didn't even bother trying ubuntu, i'm all about kde" hence... i installed kubuntu
[10:09] <skinnypuppy1334> Is Easyubuntu for fiesty or is it sort of phased out?
[10:09] <neopsyche> ic
[10:09] <Daverocks> leo_rockw: right, but the standard "ubuntu" dist is gnome on top of the ubuntu base, kubuntu runs on ubuntu as well
[10:09] <peter_> would net meeting be a good plugin to add in kopete for video?
[10:09] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, you say potato i say... lol
[10:09] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, but i agree
[10:09] <Daverocks> lol yeah
[10:10] <neopsyche> Thanks for the clarification Daverocks.. isnt it wonderful how the open source world actually seems to care about understanding the terminology.. even though it might sound trivial to the average user of "other operating systems" I think its great :-)
[10:10] <neopsyche> other operating systems > namely windows
[10:10] <leo_rockw> omg so late! i had to do a translation! g2g lol
[10:10] <cafuego> I'm sorry, but potato is debian, not ubuntu ;-)
[10:11] <Daverocks> neopsyche: the average user of windows doesn't know what an operating system is :P
[10:11] <leo_rockw> cafuego, then what is ubuntu? sweet potato? lol
[10:11] <neopsyche> rotfl
[10:11] <cafuego> Hmm... back when debian was potato there was no ubuntu, afaik.
[10:12] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, the average user doesn't know that linux is NOT an OS
[10:12] <Daverocks> i wasn't joking though, to most people, windows "is" the computer, and there is conception of other possible operating systems. they know about macs, but they conceive of macs as a different computer, since they do run on separate hardware
[10:12] <spiderfire> is tribe referring to a game?
[10:12] <christopher_> ok in kde how do i put the trash can on the desktop?
[10:12] <Daverocks> leo_rockw: correct
[10:12] <spiderfire> tribe3
[10:12] <heguru> !tribe | spiderfire
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tribe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <hypodyne> hi all
[10:13] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, you mean the codename of the beta release?
[10:13] <spiderfire> leo_rockw: k
[10:13] <hypodyne> anyone know anything about attack trees
[10:13] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, i like when RMS goes "gnu slash linux!"
[10:13] <cafuego> are they like drop bears?
[10:13] <christopher_> simple things slip past me when im insanely tired
[10:14] <MoNsTeR> i like how nobody helps me
[10:14] <Daverocks> leo_rockw: well, look, in my opinion, if you want to refer to the whole operating system, you should call it "perl/X/apache/.../.../../GNU/Linux"
[10:14] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, haha, tru
[10:14] <Daverocks> leo_rockw: it's not just GNU who have their tools on top of linux
[10:15] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, never thought of that, but it is true
[10:15] <christopher_> MoNsTeR you cant demand help
[10:15] <cafuego> MoNsTeR: Most likely nobody has any idea what AWN is or what your problem with installing it is.
[10:15] <leo_rockw> !patience | MoNsTeR
[10:15] <ubotu> MoNsTeR: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:15] <Daverocks> MoNsTeR: if you "like how nobody helps me", then why are you complaining? (if you like it? ;))
[10:15] <peter_> have patience like me :)
[10:16] <Jazon> hihi
[10:16] <christopher_> or for a much simpler rout google is a powerful tool
[10:16] <stefg> !google
[10:16] <StalkerOfRisa`> [Google Search] : http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=&btng=google+search&meta=
[10:16] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[10:16] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[10:16] <Jazon> anyone here have ubuntu on one of the new ati imac 24" ers ??
[10:16] <MoNsTeR> get off my back
[10:16] <MoNsTeR> all you
[10:16] <Jazon> doktoreas: what are you doin here? :P
[10:16] <doktoreas> anyone uses ubuntu on a mac mini?
[10:16] <Jazon> lol
[10:16] <doktoreas> ha Jazon :D
[10:16] <Daverocks> !anyone | doktoreas
[10:16] <ubotu> doktoreas: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:16] <cafuego> doktoreas: I used to, a G4 ppc one.
[10:16] <MoNsTeR> i asked for help 2 times within 50 times of people saying something
[10:17] <Jazon> doktoreas: I can tell you all about an intel imac w/nvidia ;-)
[10:17] <christopher_> why would you own an imac :P you overpaid for the hadware to install linux onto kinda defeats the purpose doesnt it? mean no offense j/w
[10:17] <MoNsTeR> and i get asked to wait longer thats great isn't it?\
[10:17] <doktoreas> Jazon: need to learn some ubuntu, and my mac mini will sacrifice :D
[10:17] <cafuego> MoNsTeR: Just because they were talking didn't mean they could or wanted to help you. In the mean time I *still* don't know what AWN is or why you can't install it.
[10:17] <Jazon> christopher_: one thing: 24" lcd screen
[10:17] <christopher_> ahh
[10:17] <christopher_> but dell offers 30 for the same price
[10:17] <leo_rockw> MoNsTeR, i asked about s2ram and s2disk, can you help me? lol
[10:17] <christopher_> and u jus hoot it to ur current hardware
[10:17] <cafuego> but it's a dell
[10:18] <Jazon> not with the rest of the amazing package... anyway,
[10:18] <christopher_> i love the mac
[10:18] <Jazon> cafuego: lol
[10:18] <christopher_> but too much lockin
[10:18] <dgjones> !patience | MoNsTeR
[10:18] <ubotu> MoNsTeR: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:18] <Nalleman> hi. im going to make a backup of my home directory and then reinstall ubuntu. Will i have to change permissions for all files and folder in order do be able to copy them back to my home directory or delete them from my temporary driver?
[10:18] <christopher_> its worse than ms but atleast they give you innovations
[10:18] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Ok, now the new partition shows up in /dev
[10:18] <MoNsTeR> DGJones qut trppin
[10:18] <leo_rockw> i seriously have to go. glhf everyone
[10:19] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: now you should be able to format it with whatever (e.g. gparted)
[10:19] <Julz> can the live cd automatically use a windows driver for a wireless card?
[10:19] <cafuego> MoNsTeR: So you're not going to explain what AWN is?
[10:19] <MoNsTeR> leo_rockw, i have no clue what that is and i need to change the color of average peoples text in xchat so i can see you all
[10:19] <lunz> leo,how to add dual boot to my ubuntu?anyone can guide me step by step?
[10:19] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: for usb drives, fat16 or fat32 is usual
[10:19] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Doesn't help, when I attempt to do anything to it from gparted, the program just closes
[10:19] <stefg> MoNsTeR: have a read ? https://launchpad.net/awn
[10:19] <MoNsTeR> AWN is avant window navigator
[10:19] <GreyWolfe> it says it still needs to write a filesystem
[10:20] <MoNsTeR> stefg, im doing that right now as a matter of fact
[10:20] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: ouch... what about mkfs.vfat ?
[10:20] <cafuego> MoNsTeR: And you can't install it because...?
[10:20] <christopher_> Jazon what is your knowledge of linux?
[10:20] <livenicely> hello
[10:20] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: I have no idea how to use that, if you havent guessed yet, I am still pretty new to using Linux :P
[10:20] <Jazon> christopher_: fair...  why?
[10:20] <MoNsTeR> cafuego, i can im doing it right now
[10:20] <livenicely> can i ask a question but questions
[10:20] <christopher_> i can reccoment an excellent distro for the mac
[10:20] <christopher_> gentoo
[10:20] <christopher_> i have it on my mac mini
[10:21] <peter_> anyone else wanna help me with my webcam problem?
[10:21] <heguru> !ask | livenicely
[10:21] <ubotu> livenicely: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:21] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: yeah sure :P check out "man mkfs.vfat", you should be able to use it to format the partition to fat16 or fat32... meanwhile i kind of gtg :P
[10:21] <Jazon> i run feisty fawn on the imac 24" (nvidia) and everything works... (everything)
[10:21] <heguru> peter_: you want to do video conf with which network?
[10:21] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Ok, thanks for your help
[10:21] <stefg> MoNsTeR: don't expect too much of AWN. it's pretty alpha, pretty broken and far from ready for daily usage, as it is hard to configure it (or was, when i last looked)
[10:21] <heguru> peter_: msn? yahoo? others?
[10:22] <peter_> msn using kopete
[10:22] <warbler> !boot
[10:22] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[10:22] <Woet> how do i accept people to have added me @ gaim ?
[10:22] <christopher_> but if Ubuntu be your favor http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_do_i_dual_boot_ubuntu_linux_mac_os_x.html
[10:22] <n2diy> I have an application where I want a computer to have let known users access it at certain times of the day. Writing a script to shutdown is hard, but how to get it to turn itself on?
[10:22] <penguincentral> Woet: how is ubuntu going?
[10:22] <MoNsTeR> stefg, ight
[10:22] <kristjan_> are qemu and virutalbox about same in speed?
[10:22] <Julz> help? the live cd allows wireless one one computer, but not on a different one. same wireless card. any idea how i can fix it?
[10:22] <peter_> my webcam isnt detected by kopete though but it is by ekiga
[10:22] <christopher_> virtualbox is better
[10:22] <Woet> awesome penguincentral
[10:22] <christopher_> i find qemu to bug out
[10:22] <Woet> i love it
[10:23] <kristjan_> christopher_: what about performance?
[10:23] <livenicely> i am using Ubuntu 7.04 Error No.1
[10:23] <livenicely> root@DigitalMedia:/home/livenicely# sudo apt-get install -f
[10:23] <livenicely> Reading package lists... Done
[10:23] <livenicely> Building dependency tree
[10:23] <livenicely> Reading state information... Done
[10:23] <livenicely> E: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[10:23] <livenicely> root@DigitalMedia:/home/livenicely# I have not virtual box package now. Error No.2
[10:23] <christopher_> about the same
[10:23] <livenicely> when i try to install atari800 .deb package The package might be courrpeted or you are not allowed to open the file . check the permission of the file.
[10:23] <livenicely> but package and file is ok. Error No.3
[10:23] <livenicely> when i open synaptic package manager it says E: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[10:23] <livenicely> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report. Error No. 4 when i am trying to download any thing through firefox it asks where to save or download but download is not going to start and not open download window.
[10:23] <peter_> canorama doesnt see it either
[10:23] <penguincentral> Woet: wonderful.  is everything working?
[10:23] <Woet> almost
[10:23] <punzada> I'm glad the filezilla developers fixed implicit ssl in the 3.0.1 version
[10:23] <Woet> sshfs is quite a bitch to me
[10:23] <penguincentral> heh
[10:23] <christopher_> virtualbox ose is made from qemu but it is more stable and easier to use
[10:23] <punzada> every other ftp client blows goats ;/
[10:23] <Woet> and when i try to edit date & time, i get an empty window
[10:23] <Woet> in stead of settings in it
[10:23] <heguru> !pastebin | livenicely
[10:23] <ubotu> livenicely: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:23] <penguincentral> Woet: heh.
[10:24] <penguincentral> i remember you a couple of days ago trying to decide to switch from xp to ubuntu
[10:24] <Woet> yeah
[10:24] <penguincentral> always good to help a switcher
[10:24] <christopher_> penguincentral what apps are you married to
[10:24] <christopher_> ?
[10:24] <Woet> well, im still using XP as a desktop
[10:24] <penguincentral> ok
[10:24] <Woet> but ubuntu is my work laptop
[10:24] <penguincentral> christopher_: what do you mean
[10:24] <christopher_> virtualbox ose for all ur windows needs
[10:24] <Woet> too much software doesnt quite work on ubuntu :p
[10:25] <lunz> !dualboot
[10:25] <penguincentral> Woet: Woo!!!
[10:25] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[10:25] <christopher_> ubuntu and kubuntu are faster than xp on every level
[10:25] <penguincentral> christopher_: what are you talking about?
[10:25] <n2diy> Sorry, wrong question. I have an application where I want a computer to let known users access it at certain times of the day. The client doesn't want the box to run 24/7. Writing a script to shutdown isn't hard, but how to get it to turn itself on? It is old hardware, no wake on commands available.
[10:25] <viRghiN_18_jkt> allow
[10:25] <christopher_> you can still have all the apps you use in linux
[10:25] <Woet> How do i allow users to add me to msn @ gaim?
[10:25] <Julz> anyone know much about wireless cards? im having trouble detecting mine
[10:25] <SETKEH-NRNS> http://setkeh.bravehost.com/linux.htm for info on the teamspeak server i run for linux
[10:25] <christopher_> without much hassle
[10:25] <penguincentral> christopher_: I use firefox, pidgin quite a lot
[10:25] <christopher_> are you a gamer?
[10:26] <livenicely> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/14368
[10:26] <penguincentral> christopher_: not really, although I own a PS2
[10:26] <christopher_> no i mean on the pc
[10:26] <penguincentral> not really
[10:26] <peter_> cod 4 check it out
[10:26] <christopher_> other than ff and gaim what do you use?
[10:26] <penguincentral> christopher_: I use Xchat-gnome, utorrent under wine, rhythmbox
[10:26] <alok_> Julz:Check out your restricted driver manger
[10:26] <penguincentral> openoffice occasionally
[10:27] <penguincentral> mencoder, totem, vlc
[10:27] <penguincentral> gizmo project
[10:27] <penguincentral> miro
[10:27] <penguincentral> Tvtime
[10:27] <christopher_> nice list
[10:27] <heguru> Julz: run lspci command and pastebin it
[10:27] <Julz> alok: it worked with the same typoe of card on another comp just from the live cd, so shouldnt it work this time too?
[10:27] <penguincentral> thanks christopher_
[10:27] <christopher_> i jus wanna know i am trying to make a distro that suits what most people use
[10:28] <penguincentral> notice that it is virtually all open source
[10:28] <christopher_> right lol
[10:28] <penguincentral> good luck christopher_