[01:21] <ScottK> Can someone verify the raring KTP SRU please.
[06:38] <soee> good morning
[08:32] <apachelogger> Riddell: are you working again?
[08:33] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ping for when you should decide to get out of bed :P
[08:42] <jussi> hrm, Klipper, Kmix and Bluetooth all still need plasma UI's. is this something we have people to contribute to ?
[08:47] <apachelogger> jussi: I am not sure I folllow
[08:48] <jussi> apachelogger: go to your system, click the battery icon, or the nm icon. you get pretty plasma stuff. the others you get a very standard looking menu type thing.
[08:49] <apachelogger> there never was the target of having plasma applet implementations for every tray app
[08:49] <jussi> ie. http://i.imgur.com/20P53zp.png and http://i.imgur.com/1eCHXjw.png
[08:50] <jussi> apachelogger: would be nice to have it for the defaults though...
[08:50] <apachelogger> in that case you will have to file bugs with the individual developers
[08:51] <apachelogger> how a bluedevil applet would be different from what it has now I do not know though :P
[08:52] <apachelogger> what's the blue thing that pops up?
[08:52] <apachelogger> it's annoying as hell
[08:53] <apachelogger> apport
[08:53] <apachelogger> love of my life
[08:56] <jussi> apachelogger: no, the powermanagement thing I screenshoted to show differences to the bluetooth thing
[08:57] <apachelogger> yes
[08:57] <apachelogger> they don't do the same thign though
[08:58] <apachelogger> ScottK, shadeslayer: do you think there is a chance for 13.10.1 for bug 1242417
[09:55] <Riddell> apachelogger: I'm still at linuxcon today and tomorrow
[09:55] <apachelogger> k
[09:57] <jussi> which desktop effect is this? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/get_cface2.jpg
[10:19] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I'd like a 13.10.1 if we can fix that
[10:19] <apachelogger> we do have a fix
[10:21] <shadeslayer> right, just finished reading the bug report
[10:21] <shadeslayer> I am for it
[10:23] <apachelogger> so make it happen? :P
[10:24] <shadeslayer> not entirely sure of the procedure
[10:24] <shadeslayer> just poke the release team?
[10:24] <apachelogger> I guess
[10:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: Is the fix released btw?
[10:31] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw_: ping
[10:31] <apachelogger> not yet I think
[10:31] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: cj says that installer probably fetches newer grub from network
[10:32] <shadeslayer> *probably*
[10:33] <shadeslayer> anyway, would like to smartboyhw_ then send a email to ubuntu-release
[10:34] <smartboyhw_> shadeslayer: yes?
[10:34] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw_: is ubuntustudio also affected by that EFI bug?
[10:34] <smartboyhw_> Actually, I have to deal with the bug on Studio's side too,
[10:34] <shadeslayer> exactly
[10:34] <shadeslayer> so do you want to get a respin done as well?
[10:35] <smartboyhw_> shadeslayer: The other two main developers have not yet replied about the sole problem on fixing the package, I need to wait for their reply.
[10:35] <shadeslayer> ack, I'll draft something till you wait
[10:36] <smartboyhw_> shadeslayer: Great.
[10:41] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: the installer fetches grub-efi-amd64, that I did not see observe it fetching grub2-common
[10:41] <apachelogger> s/that/but
[10:41] <apachelogger> woah that sentence is screwed
[10:41] <apachelogger> s/see//
[10:41] <kubotu> apachelogger: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[10:42] <shadeslayer> thx for the brainfuck
[10:42] <shadeslayer> I am without coffee
[10:42] <apachelogger> wanna do video in phonon5's halfway ripped apart api, cause I'll glaldy switch brainfucks :P
[10:43] <shadeslayer> no thx
[10:44]  * shadeslayer passes around some awesome chocolate cake from his Birthday
[10:44] <apachelogger> oh I missed your birthday
[10:44] <apachelogger> zomg
[10:44] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: happy birthday and stuff
[10:44] <shadeslayer> thx
[10:44] <apachelogger> kubotu: order beer for shadeslayer
[10:44]  * kubotu gives shadeslayer a nice frosty mug of beer.
[10:45] <shadeslayer> beer at quarter to 1?
[10:45] <apachelogger> it's afternoon, time for beer I say
[10:45] <shadeslayer> are you trying to get me drunk so that I may not be able to do 13.10.1 good sir
[10:45] <apachelogger> glTexImage2D(GL_TEXTURE_2D, 0, GL_LUMINANCE, w, h, 0, GL_LUMINANCE, GL_UNSIGNED_BYTE, bits);
[10:45] <apachelogger> one year ago I apparently knew what that did
[10:46] <apachelogger> now I don't
[10:46] <apachelogger> life's a harsh mistress
[10:47] <yossarianuk> so you are making a new .iso ?
[10:48] <shadeslayer> maybe
[10:48] <shadeslayer> I will send a request
[10:48] <shadeslayer> upto the release team to decide
[10:52] <yossarianuk> cool - I hope they do or for the next 6 months  there will be a lot of people moaning about UEFI installation...
[10:52] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6282318/
[10:52] <yossarianuk> thanks to everybody who works on kubuntu !
[10:53] <apachelogger> (UEFI was broken in 13.04 ... no one complained)
[10:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: and now people are, so how about we fix it :)
[10:54] <shadeslayer> also, 13.04 installed fine on my machine at some point ( somewhere between alpha and beta )
[10:54] <shadeslayer> so it did work
[10:54] <apachelogger> just saying, this is not as critical as one would think
[10:54] <yossarianuk> 13.04 was fine with UEFI...
[10:54] <shadeslayer> but I suppose you broke it at somepoint then
[10:54] <yossarianuk> previous versions had issues if you had ubuntu + kubuntu installed in UEFI... 13.04 was fine.
[10:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I don't see how rebooting into grub recovery after a install is not critical :P
[10:55] <yossarianuk> p.s - regarding not updating install .isos - Linus had something to say on that to the Fedora team...
[10:55] <yossarianuk> https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/GqUgcYcfQuV
[10:55] <smartboyhw_> shadeslayer: ACK
[10:56] <yossarianuk> shadeslayer: I agree - how is a person new to Linux meant to be able to use Kubuntu 13.10....
[10:56] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: see incoming bugs?
[10:57] <apachelogger> from where I am standing the battery applet showing 0% when in fact the battery is fully charged is more critical
[10:57] <apachelogger> getting 5 mails a day on that
[10:58] <yossarianuk> maybe because people suffering the UEFI bug have given up after not being able to install the OS.....
[10:59] <yossarianuk> (my worry is people may try, fail then go back to windows.)
[11:00] <apachelogger> oh god that muon thing
[11:00] <apachelogger> :@
[11:00] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: where's apol anyway?
[11:18] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[11:27] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:29] <ScottK> apachelogger: We can certainly SRU the fix.  I don't know about a 13.10.1.  If you do an install with internet access and check you want the upgrades, won't that be sufficient?
[11:30] <ScottK> We've got no way to upgrade the ISO with just that fix, it'd be everything in -updates, so it'd have to be completely retested.
[11:34] <apachelogger> xnox: would the installer try to update grub2-common of the base system?
[11:34] <apachelogger> because I have not seen it try to though since we have no update that is kinda hard to proof ;)
[11:35] <xnox> apachelogger: cjwatson already replied you to that question.
[11:35] <xnox> apachelogger: i don't have any other information for you.
[11:37] <apachelogger> ScottK: ^
[11:38] <ScottK> apachelogger: Let's get the fix in the archive and then test it.
[11:38] <apachelogger> faire enough
[11:38] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: wanna do the SRU? :P
[11:41] <smartboyhw_> Can you guys give me the SRU diff (BEFORE YOU UPLOAD) so I can easily implement the same to Studio :P
[11:42] <ScottK> smartboyhw_: You can't.
[11:43] <ScottK> There's already some partial support for this in Grub that's specific to Kubuntu, so the same fix wouldn't work.
[11:49] <smartboyhw_> ScottK: OK
[11:50] <apachelogger> smartboyhw_: you cannot
[11:50] <apachelogger> smartboyhw_: you'll have to talk to cj
[11:50] <apachelogger> the entire feature is depending on a bunch of special support in grub2
[11:50] <apachelogger> for kubuntu
[12:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: apol is on a plane
[12:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: afaik we can't upgrade grub-common
[12:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: <cjwatson> shadeslayer: That checkbox actually isn't relevant here
 It only applies to stuff in the livefs, which grub isn't
[12:19] <jussi> so, it seems kde partition manager is broken/unworkable
[12:20] <jussi> at least I am unable to do anything with a USB stick on it. (and on a side note, why is it so hard to format a usb drive in kde)
[12:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: grub2-comon is in the livefs
[12:35] <shadeslayer> well then
[12:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: and that's where the key change is (grub-install)
[12:35] <shadeslayer> lets wait for the fix to land
[12:35] <shadeslayer> then we can test somehow in VBox?
[12:35] <apachelogger> who's landing the fix anyway?
[12:36] <apachelogger> I would rather like to focus on phonon for the rest of the week
[12:36] <apachelogger> I am kinda behind because of all the .10 madness
[12:37] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I thought you or cj was :S
[12:39] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: cj wants us to do it
[12:39] <apachelogger> alas, I can do it, but not today
[12:39] <shadeslayer> yeah because I totally know how grub2 works
[12:40] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: how long would it take you :S
[12:40] <apachelogger> it just needs a verbatim backport of the patch IMO
[12:40] <BluesKaj> hmm, I saw what appeared to be a fix for the missing vpn icon connect indicator in an upgrade earlier today , but even after a reboot it doesn't appear, the disconnect indicator (a red circle with a line thru it) still appears on top of the ethernet icon
[12:40] <apachelogger> grub-mkinstall is triggered by the postinst
[12:41] <apachelogger> and that will install the efi images into EFI/ubuntu with the patch
[12:41] <shadeslayer> okay
[12:42] <apachelogger> well, in an installation scenario grub-install is called by grub-installer/ubiquity, but the fact remains ;)
[12:42] <apachelogger> for upgrades systems it is triggered by the postinst and the actual on-disk result will be that both EFI/kubuntu and EFI/ubuntu are there, but the UEFI bootmanager entry should get updated to point to latter, so that's fine too
[12:43] <shadeslayer> k
[12:48] <apachelogger> actually let me write the verification bit I have no idea in which konsole window I was poking around before getting distracted anway -.-
[13:06] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/p46592879
[13:06] <shadeslayer> does that look sane to you
[13:07] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yeah
[13:07] <apachelogger> although
[13:07] <apachelogger> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu/trusty/grub2/trusty/revision/2359
[13:07] <apachelogger> also has the change to install applied directly
[13:07] <apachelogger> not sure why
[13:08] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: best just do a testbuild and see if grub-install looks ok ;)
[13:08] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: also series is saucy-proposed
[13:08] <shadeslayer> saucy is redirected to saucy-proposed no?
[13:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: <cjwatson> shadeslayer: so that for example I can "bzr blame" across both upstream and patches at once
[13:17] <shadeslayer> hooray
[13:17] <shadeslayer> VBox doesn't want to boot the ISO at all
[13:19] <shadeslayer> ahh
[13:19] <shadeslayer> stupid i386 ISO
[13:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what other bugs btw?
[13:28] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: i386 doesn't have efi support btw
[13:28] <shadeslayer> yeah yeah
[13:28] <shadeslayer> amd64 doesn't boot as well fwiw
[13:28] <apachelogger> I think that test case got a bit away from me
[13:28] <apachelogger> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1242417
[13:28] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yeah, vbox is shit
[13:29] <apachelogger> actually you could possible boot via the shell, because vbox drops you into the intel tianocore shell
[13:29] <apachelogger> I have not found out how to do that tho
[13:29] <apachelogger> or perhaps create a boot entry
[13:30] <apachelogger> anyway.... if you use the fakebios to tryt and load the EFI image it also drops you to the shell so I suspect there's simple incompat with vbox
[13:30] <apachelogger> didn't look too much into it
[13:30] <apachelogger> anyway
[13:30] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: testcase written
[13:30] <shadeslayer> yeah was reading that
[13:30] <BluesKaj> vbox runs windows as a guest OS much better than a linux guest ...couldn't install guest additions with linux
[13:30] <apachelogger> also
 saucy is redirected to saucy-proposed no?
[13:30] <apachelogger> no
[13:30] <shadeslayer> once released, that's turned off?
[13:31] <apachelogger> during development uploads to saucy are redirected to the proposed pocket, they still will end up in saucy
[13:31] <apachelogger> the saucy pocket is however frozen since release so you cannot land anything in the saucy pocket
[13:31] <apachelogger> that's why you need to target saucy-proposed
[13:31] <shadeslayer> aha, they move from proposed to -updates then
[13:31] <apachelogger> aye
[13:31] <yofel> really? Uploading to raring always worked for me
[13:31] <apachelogger> yofel: used to be like that in 2007 anyway :P
[13:32] <shadeslayer> possibly ScottK knows ^^
[13:32] <apachelogger> you may get away with targetting saucy-updates or raring-updates
[13:32] <apachelogger> denoting raring and it ending up in raring-updates would be weird though
[13:33] <yofel> well, I did upload SRU's to 'raring', and they were queued in raring-proposed
[13:33] <shadeslayer> the question is what happens if you target saucy and then it gets redirected to -proposed and then when the package is approved, does it give you a error
[13:33] <shadeslayer> because saucy is frozen, so where does it go?
[13:34] <apachelogger> ^ that would seem more likely, or perhaps you can reroute when approving
[13:35] <apachelogger> yofel: eitherway uploading to the raring pocket while you cannot land anything in there is silly
[13:36] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: I just install the guest packages
[13:36] <shadeslayer> virtualbox-guest-{dkms, utils, x11}
[13:36] <shadeslayer> and voila, everything just works on the guest VM
[13:37] <shadeslayer> ahhhh
[13:37] <shadeslayer> VBox is just slow in EFI
[13:37] <yofel> *shrug* - it saves me from special casing SRU's in some places, and it makes uploading test packages from PPA's less error-prone
[13:38] <BluesKaj> ok sha , nice to know it works in some setups
[13:38] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer.^
[13:38] <shadeslayer> well, it's worked for me always
[13:39] <Quintasan> \o
[13:39] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: nice of you to show up
[13:40] <Quintasan> I'd like to do that more often but currently it's more or less impossible
[13:40] <Quintasan> Anything needs doing?
[13:41] <yofel> someone asked me to update digikam to 3.5 - if you're bored ^^
[13:41] <Quintasan> Sounds like plan.
[13:49] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, on the UEFI stuff: cjwatson is probably fixing it for us, and we will want the respin.
[13:50] <shadeslayer> okay
[13:50] <shadeslayer> are you going to take care of backporting the fix to saucy?
[13:52] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, I think so.
[13:52] <shadeslayer> okay, I have the fix for kubuntu compiling here https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/grub2_2.00-19ubuntu2.1.dsc
[13:52] <shadeslayer> so that I can test it
[15:25] <shadeslayer> yossarianuk: ping
[15:25] <shadeslayer> yossarianuk: can you test my GRUB package?
[15:25] <shadeslayer> with the EFI fix
[15:33] <yossarianuk> shadeslayer: I can;t right now (im @ work with no UEFI) - I can do tonight for sure
[15:33] <yossarianuk> shadeslayer: where can I get the package ?
[15:33] <shadeslayer> https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental
[15:33] <shadeslayer> please upgrade to that grub before installing
[15:34] <yossarianuk> sure - it will be a bit later ... (when I get home got baby to feed/bath, etc) but about 9 - 10 pm UK time I should have time to do so
[15:35] <yossarianuk> just to confirm I already have an install where I changed the efi folder name from ubuntu -> kubuntu (to get it to boot) - shall I leave that as it is or change it back to kubuntu ?
[15:36] <yossarianuk> or did you mean test a new install and install your grub during the install process ?
[15:36] <yossarianuk> (either way its fine...)
[15:47] <shadeslayer> yossarianuk: would it be possible for you to do a complete wipe?
[15:47] <shadeslayer> and install again?
[15:48] <yossarianuk> shadeslayer: not a problem
[15:48] <shadeslayer> cool
[15:48] <yossarianuk> shadeslayer: please confirm how to use your package in the install though...
[15:49] <yossarianuk> i.e I do a normal install - then chroot and install package ?
[15:49] <shadeslayer> boot to live session -> add PPA -> upgrade all grub packages
[15:49] <shadeslayer> proceed to install
[15:49] <yossarianuk> ok - np
[16:10] <yossarianuk> shadeslayer: Shall I contact you via irc / email with results ?
[16:10] <yossarianuk> (about to go home - yey!)
[16:10] <shadeslayer> email plz
[16:10] <shadeslayer> Hopefully I'll have internet at my apartment today
[16:10] <yossarianuk> what is your email ?
[16:11] <shadeslayer> rohangarg AT kubuntu DOT org
[16:11] <yossarianuk> cheers
[16:11] <yossarianuk> Will let you know how it goes .....
[16:28] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you cannot update grub before install... the squasfs is unpacked onto /target what is installed or not on the live system has no impact
[16:28] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[16:29] <shadeslayer> didn't you say it would work before?
[16:29] <apachelogger> no
[16:29] <apachelogger> why would I say something works even if I know it doesn't? :P
 shadeslayer: grub2-comon is in the livefs
[16:30] <apachelogger> that's the squashfs
[16:31] <shadeslayer> when I said only the packages on the livefs can be updated?
[16:31] <apachelogger> I am confused
[16:31] <apachelogger> where did I say that anyway?
 shadeslayer: the installer fetches grub-efi-amd64, that I did not see observe it fetching grub2-common
[16:32] <shadeslayer> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/10/22/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t12:35
[16:32] <apachelogger> ^ that is because efi-amd64 is installed on /target
[16:33] <apachelogger> whereas grub2-common is unpacked from the squashfs
[16:33] <shadeslayer> oh
[16:33] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: miscommunication it seems
[16:34] <shadeslayer> yeah
[16:34] <shadeslayer> so, tl;dr can't be done
[16:34] <apachelogger> livefs for me == squashfs :P
[16:34] <shadeslayer> so, how do we test this fix
[16:34] <shadeslayer> just trust cj?
[16:34] <apachelogger> no clue what cj meant
[16:34] <shadeslayer> heh
[16:34] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: needs SRU then you can as per the test cases I outlined
[16:34] <shadeslayer> okay
[16:35] <shadeslayer> yossarianuk needs to be told then xD
[16:35] <apachelogger> i.e. if ubiquity will in some capacity try to upgrade -common on the target it will work
[16:35] <shadeslayer> I see
[16:35] <apachelogger> the fix can be tested in an upgrade capacity though
[16:35] <shadeslayer> trie
[16:35] <shadeslayer> *true
[16:35] <apachelogger> install system -> mount root -> mount efi paritition -> chroot into root -> install debs
[16:36] <apachelogger> i.e. the upgrade test case
[16:36] <shadeslayer> right
[16:38] <apachelogger> if -common is not updated by ubiquity we need to make .1 and if that is not possible either we shoudl put up some good instructions on how to work around the issue
[16:39] <apachelogger> or make a scripty xD
[16:39] <apachelogger> or both
[17:05] <shadeslayer> o_o
[17:06] <shadeslayer> grub2 failed on i386
[17:39] <palasso> It's not directly related to development but in any case a dev might want to respond http://www.bluemintlinux.com/2013/10/kde-grub-2-editor-what-it-is-and-how-to-install-it-aka-why-isnt-it-installed-by-default.html
[17:46] <BluesKaj> palasso. make sure you read the tutorial closely , that app can muck up grub so easily,  it's really quite dangerous
[17:48] <palasso> BluesKaj: thnx for the warning, I am cautious with my computer :)
[17:49] <BluesKaj> I found that the choices one makes don't appear correctly in the grub changes list , unless they've fixed the app
[20:30] <yossarianuk> I tested the updated grub packages here -  https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental
[20:30] <yossarianuk> I 'think' it was shadeslayer: that mentioned them
[20:30] <yossarianuk> same UEFI install issue.
[20:32] <yossarianuk> to avoid any conflicts with ealier I completely cleared the disk / all UEFI entries also.
[20:33] <yossarianuk> again the workaround works - i.e boot to live cd , mount EFI partition then mv /mnt/sda1/EFI/kubuntu -> /mnt/sda1/EFI/ubuntu
[20:35] <yossarianuk> sorry - I have always copied not moved....


[00:00] <m4t> one thing i can suggest, is if you're executing it from a gui (like menus) you might try opening a terminal and doing: ./PonyIsland.x86
[00:00] <m4t> that might give you output which could be helpful in debugging
[00:01] <m4t> though i see https://steamcommunity.com/app/405640/discussions/0/144513248273282447/ so i dunno.
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[00:02] <santemanuele> sorry for repeat
[00:07] <m4t> yeah that's a tough one. could be the libraries are too new (or too old)
[00:07] <m4t> you'd need to use something like strace/gdb to start looking into why  that's happening
[00:07] <m4t> and with a stripped binary (no debug symbols) it'd be tough
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[09:18] <mate|93417> anyone in here
[09:19] <gordonjcp> quite a lot of folk, I suspect
[09:19] <gordonjcp> but you need to hang around for more than a minute to talk to them
[10:25] <mate|17633> hello mates
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[14:15] <Clarb> Good day, is there a multi-band graphic sound equalizer available for Ubuntu 17.10?
[15:10] <gordonjcp> Yes there is, Clarb, but you need to wait more than two minutes for the answer
[15:42] <monah> hello people
[15:43] <monah> actually i have a problem with firefox
[15:43] <monah> can't play mp4
[15:44] <diogenes_> monah, after update?
[15:44] <monah> no
[15:44] <monah> clean install
[15:45] <monah> on my linux mint i can just see the video no sound
[15:45] <monah> and on my ubuntu 16.04 can't even see anything
[15:45] <diogenes_> try installing flashplugin
[15:45] <monah> ok
[15:47] <monah> the same problem
[15:47] <monah> it tells me
[15:47] <monah> video format or mime type is not supported
[15:48] <monah> it's an mp4 format
[15:48] <monah> any idea?
[15:51] <monah> anyone has experienced problems with mp4 on firefox
[15:51] <monah> ?
[15:53] <diogenes_> monah, click check now: https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html
[16:17] <M_aD> monah: do you have the restricted extras installed?
[16:20] <M_aD> diogenes_: mp4 isn't a flash issue but rather a missing codec
[16:22] <M_aD> monah: on ubuntu 16.04 do a: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted extras
[16:23] <M_aD> errr.... make that sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:23] <M_aD> Mint has it's own way to install the codecs
[16:53] <monah> sorry I was checking
[16:53] <monah> I clicked
[16:54] <monah> and yes I do have restricted extras
[16:55] <monah> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 103 not upgraded.
[19:17] <mate|46214> the new mate version looks nice!
[19:23] <facefack> Hi. I'm trying to find the firefox folder that has my profile via GUI.  I cannot search and find user.js
[19:24] <gordonjcp> facefack: it's in .mozilla
[19:25] <gordonjcp> if you open up the file manager you can type the path to the file you want in
[19:26] <gordonjcp> facefack: are you trying to unbreak setting the firefox home page?
[19:28] <facefack> no I want to try to have 2 profiles: i will play around with the settings on 1 of them, and have the original in case i break something.
[19:28] <gordonjcp> right, got you
[19:28] <facefack> when i search for .mozilla in user and in file system, i only got a few unrelated files
[19:29] <facefack> (with file manager)
[19:29] <gordonjcp> you can probably set the file manager to show hidden files
[19:29] <gordonjcp> I never use the file manager, it's too difficult
[19:29] <gordonjcp> clicking on this and that
[19:29] <gordonjcp> confusing
[19:29] <facefack> ahh that was my next question hidden files
[19:29] <gordonjcp> right
[19:29] <gordonjcp> so in Unixy file systems you hide a file by starting the filename with a dot
[19:30] <gordonjcp> ~/mozilla would show up, ~/.mozilla wouldn't
[19:31] <facefack> ahh there's all the hidden buggers...
[19:32] <facefack> i knew it looked too clean
[19:32] <gordonjcp> :-D
[19:33] <gordonjcp> you could just copy the whole .mozilla directory
[19:33] <gordonjcp> rename it to something else, make a "clean" one, cp -r .mozilla mozilla-clean
[19:33] <gordonjcp> add a bunch of extensions, copy again
[19:34] <alkisg> facefack: run "firefox -profile", I think it brings up the firefox profile manager
[19:34] <alkisg> firefox -ProfileManager
[19:35] <gordonjcp> oh, that's still there?
[19:35] <alkisg> That way you don't need to search for any files/directories...
[19:35] <facefack> when I do that it goes to http://www.xn--profilemanager-f82h.com/ and hits a "Server Not Found" error page
[19:35] <alkisg> `man firefox` to see it
[19:35] <gordonjcp> alkisg: I assumed they'd got rid of it for being too useful ;-)
[19:35] <alkisg> Haha
[19:35] <facefack> yep its' gone
[19:35] <facefack> Hmm, still can't find the pesky user.js yet
[19:35] <alkisg> facefack: it's not back, it works fine here in 16.04
[19:35] <alkisg> *it's not gone
[19:36] <gordonjcp> there likely isn't one if you haven't created one
[19:36] <alkisg> Create profile/Delete profile/Rename profile etc etc
[19:37] <facefack> I thought there was one already there with the default "about:config" settings
[19:38] <facefack> do you make one with the 'firefox account' tab in the browser settings?
[19:43] <facefack> I think I'm getting somewhere with this: firefox -no-remote -ProfileManager
[19:43] <facefack> I have to run out but I will leave this open.  Thanks everyone for your input!
[19:54] <gordonjcp> facefack: good luck with it
[20:22] <CoolGuy> hello
[20:22] <CoolGuy> Is there a way I can install Ubuntu software offline, like Debian?
[20:24] <CoolGuy> I wanna install build-essential
[20:35] <gordonjcp> CoolGuy: you'd do that in exactly the same way as in Debian
 So where can I download the DVDs of the packages for offline install? I can't find them.
[20:52] <gordonjcp> CoolGuy: I'm not really sure what you're trying to do
[20:52] <CoolGuy> gordonjcp: I mean the DVDs you get for offline installations
[20:54] <CoolGuy> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/arm64/iso-dvd/
[20:54] <gordonjcp> not sure to be honest, it's not something I've done for a very long time
[20:55] <gordonjcp> you might be better asking in the main #ubuntu channel for that
[20:56] <CoolGuy> gordonjcp: you use the command apt-cdrom to install the dvds
[20:56] <gordonjcp> I've never really bothered with that
[20:56] <gordonjcp> I don't really have the bandwidth to pull down DVD images
[20:56] <CoolGuy> Ok
[20:57] <CoolGuy> Thanks
[20:58] <gordonjcp> CoolGuy: what I tend to do is just use a normal install ISO and use apt-cacher to cache the installed packages
[21:23] <CoolGuy> what's apt-cacher for?
[21:24] <CoolGuy> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man8/apt-cacher.8.html
[22:13] <swift110> hmm
[22:46] <sixwheeledbeast> there is a cdimage site for ubuntu images too.
[22:47] <sixwheeledbeast> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[23:53] <f76> I'm on a new 17.10 install and when I try and start Caja Dropbox as installed from the software boutique, I get this error https://thepasteb.in/p/76hE1DDk3BQuV
[23:56] <f76> Does anyone have any suggestions


[06:52] <pegwin> hi all
[16:00] <gan> i am following the ubuntu doc of creating the live cd , but not supporting , it is coming upto mounting the filesystem
[16:02] <TokyoFrench> Hello there!
[16:03] <gan> i am following the ubuntu doc of creating the live cd , but not supporting , it is coming upto mounting the filesystem
[16:04] <TokyoFrench> Just to say I am planning to install Ubuntu on an Hitachi FLORA 270HX laptop which is old laptop
[16:05] <TokyoFrench> I have 128 Mo RAM, so not too sure if I can install the Ubuntu or if I should prefere XUbuntu...
[16:05] <TokyoFrench> anyway when I installed stackware I had to use some kernel options like noacpi (if I remember correctly)
[16:06] <TokyoFrench> And I don't see this laptop listed on the ubuntu webpage.... so, just hope it'll work
[16:06] <MagicFab> TokyoFrench, Xubuntu will barely be functional, but will work
[16:07] <MagicFab> TokyoFrench, I'd suggest installing a "command line" system only from the alternate disk, then adding the xubuntu-desktop package
[16:07] <gan> livecd which i created based on ubuntu is not booting on laptop
[16:07] <MagicFab> TokyoFrench, you may also consider openbox, there have been quite some posts about it on different blogs
[16:08] <MagicFab> gan, brand & model ?
[16:08] <TokyoFrench> MagicFab: Thanks for the tips!
[16:08] <gan> MagicFab, thinkpad IBM
[16:09] <MagicFab> TokyoFrench, also see some draft notes I have here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FabianRodriguez/DefaultInstall
[16:10] <MagicFab> gan, see http://www.thinkwiki.org for great tips on thinkpads
[16:10] <MagicFab> gan, what exact TP model ?
[16:11] <MagicFab> gan, have you tried the latest hardy alpha ? a *lot* has improved for laptops
[16:11] <gan> MagicFab, no
[16:13] <MagicFab> gan, you may want to base your liveCD on Hardy if you' re targetting laptops - just my personal opinion
[16:13] <gan> MagicFab, ok
[16:15] <TokyoFrench> MagicFab: so my understanding is that installing command line system and then xubuntu-desktop will actually install less package than directly installing XUbuntu, and thus making a lighter system..?
[16:15] <MagicFab> no, TokyoFrench
[16:15] <MagicFab> it will install exactly the same
[16:15] <MagicFab> except you can use that same CD to install other Ubuntu flavors (like Ubuntu, Kubuntu, etc)
[16:16] <TokyoFrench> Mmm ok.. so the point is just testing the different flavors?
[16:16] <MagicFab> And in my personal experience, installing with the text based installler on older machines ALWAYS works, as opposed to using the standard live CD
[16:16] <TokyoFrench> ok
[16:18] <MagicFab> oups compiz crash :)
[16:18] <TokyoFrench> Thank you for helping. I really look forward to install this Ubuntu (I never tested before), cause I am too much a newbie for slackware haha
[16:18] <MagicFab> the point is install in ~20 minutes (text install, minimal system) then choosing whatever flavor you want and knowing nothing will crash or hang (graphcis specifically) later on
[16:19] <MagicFab> installing on 128ram will take a looooong time using the liveCD
[16:19] <TokyoFrench> sounds great
[16:19] <MagicFab> and if you're experimenting taht time adds up :)
[16:20] <TokyoFrench> :)
[16:20] <MagicFab> I am upgrading my system so I expect to loose my connection - brb
[16:20] <TokyoFrench> sorry if it's not the channel topic, but do you know if ubuntu is able to manage encrypted partitions? (cryptsetup)
[16:21] <MagicFab> Yes... well at install time the only option that works is encrypting everything
[16:21] <TokyoFrench> haha I like that
[16:21] <TokyoFrench> I alre
[16:21] <MagicFab> If you want to do it after install time it's still a rather manual-ish procedure
[16:21] <TokyoFrench> I never tried Ubuntu but I already love it ;-)
[16:22] <MagicFab> If you encrypt all as suggested in the partition manager during install time, you get a nice prompt at boot time asking for the password
[16:22] <TokyoFrench> great... but encryption doesn't slow general performances too much?
[16:22] <MagicFab> I have been using that on my main laptop for ~8 months and never had problems even when the machine was turned off brutally (battery drain)
[16:23] <MagicFab> TokyoFrench, on an older machine, you can feel performance drops specially if you encrypt your swap partition (because, well, swap is used often on very low memory conditions)
[16:23] <MagicFab> but on recent systems is not noticeable
[16:24] <TokyoFrench> yep... I actually plan to crypt one partition, that will generally be not mounted, and when I need it to be mounted, to unable the cache...
[16:24] <TokyoFrench> I mean disable the cash
[16:24] <TokyoFrench> I mean disable the Swap.... haha I should go to bed
[16:25] <MagicFab> Funny: todays update of Network manager includes this: " #432322 - network-manager: package upgrade kills network connections every time"
[16:25] <MagicFab> TokyoFrench, the easiest way to do that I foujnd was.... wait...
[16:25] <MagicFab> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/24/use-an-encrypted-usb-drivepartition/
[16:26] <MagicFab> read all the comments, though
[16:26] <TokyoFrench> yep thks
[16:42] <TokyoFrench> lol et bien, ca chauffe sur certains forums ubuntu ;-)
[16:43] <TokyoFrench> MagicFab: thank you for your help, I will follow your advices
[16:43] <TokyoFrench> bybye


[12:02] <kaziweb> I've selected a school to inform them about Ubuntu. Can anyone guide me how can I convince them properly. For sure I need to take some presentation to them. Is there any ready presentation that I can edit, upgrade, translate in Arabic and present it to them? This is going to be my first attempt to any school. Any guidance that what I can offer them?


[00:03] <philipballew> well pleia2 colds and flues can take a that long to have symptoms arise maybe?
[00:04] <pleia2> who knows :) sure, let's blame scale
[00:04]  * philipballew sees no reason not to
[00:04] <pleia2> hehe
[00:04] <pleia2> philipballew: did you blog about scale?
[00:05] <philipballew> funny you say this
[00:05]  * pleia2 updating project wiki page with photos and stuff
[00:05] <philipballew> i am about to publish my blog within the hour
[00:06] <pleia2> :)
[00:06] <philipballew> pleia2, is reading my mind
[00:08] <philipballew> pleia2, Can I use a photo of yours in my blog from scale if I throw your name in there
[00:09] <pleia2> philipballew: yep
[00:09]  * philipballew high fives pleia2
[00:09] <pleia2> ^5
[00:16] <MarkDude> pleia2, you have the UW pic?
[00:17] <pleia2> MarkDude: I saw the one on G+
[00:17] <MarkDude> \Yep
[00:17] <MarkDude> I can send larger one if you want
[00:17] <MarkDude> should be good enough tho :)
[00:18] <pleia2> MarkDude: do you happen to have a non G+ direct link to it?
[00:18] <MarkDude> Uh nope
[00:18]  * MarkDude is a social media whore :)
[00:19] <MarkDude> I can email to you
[00:20] <pleia2> MarkDude: was just trying to find a way to share it with the rest of UW :)
[00:21] <MarkDude> Well My blog will be back up SOMETIME in 2012
[00:21] <MarkDude> hopefully by end of year ;(
[00:21] <MarkDude> :)
[00:34] <pleia2> haha
[00:54] <Ttech> hmm.
[02:14] <pleia2> MarkDude: did nixie kill dragon?
[02:14] <pleia2> tsk
[02:32] <pleia2> philipballew: added your blog post to our wiki (and UWN!)
[02:33] <philipballew> Thanks! I Can write a summery for that then.
[02:33] <philipballew> Are you gonna lead the meeting pleia2  even if your not feeling well?
[02:35] <pleia2> philipballew: yeah, it shouldn't be a long meeting
[02:35] <philipballew> nope. just a few people saying scale was awesome
[02:35] <pleia2> :)
[02:36] <akk> :)
[02:38] <pleia2> I love taskwarrior, I don't know what I did before it
[02:39] <philipballew> and its cool because its cli!!!
[02:40] <pleia2> haha
[02:40] <pleia2> I've tried some gui tools, but it's easier for me if it's sitting in screen near my irc client
[02:47] <philipballew> so you have two terminal sessions open then?
[02:47] <philipballew> or is your setup headless?
[02:48] <pleia2> using screen
[02:48] <pleia2> I just ssh into my server
[02:51] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Did I ever transfer markterranova.com to you?
[02:51] <bkerensa> I think I did but cannot recall
[02:52] <philipballew> oh nice. I need to do something like that because i am on my laptop and desktop 50 about half and half and always have to log off irc of one before i can log onto another. kinda a pain
[02:52] <Ttech> heh.
[02:52] <Ttech> I irc from one monitor, work on the other.
[02:52] <Darkwing> i like quasselcore
[02:53]  * philipballew is on xchat
[02:53] <Ttech> I run xforwarding to get xchat,quassel running.
[02:54] <Darkwing> i run the core on a server then i connect to it. qasseldroid rocks for tablet and phone
[02:54] <Ttech> Darkwing, I cannot ever get Quassel to run and plus ZNC works pretty well.
[02:54] <Ttech> I don't believe Quassel supports identify-msg or other goodies.
[02:55] <Darkwing> Ttech: quasselcore?
[02:55] <Ttech> yeap
[02:55] <eps> Is that like quadrapassel? :-)
[02:55]  * philipballew loves quadrapassel!!!
[02:55] <Darkwing> if it wont secure a port then point another port with -port=xxxx
[02:56] <Darkwing> then to connect you have to use quassel-client
[02:56] <jtatum> Woohoo quadrupeds!
[02:56] <Ttech> Darkwing, But it does not support identify-msg
[02:57] <Darkwing> ??
[02:57] <Ttech> Darkwing, It shows if people are identified or not
[02:57] <Ttech> e.g.
 ??
[02:58] <pleia2> what does it do if people are voiced?
[02:59] <Darkwing> ahhh
[02:59] <jtatum> Nickserv identified? Can do that with a server password on freenode
[02:59] <Ttech> heh.
[02:59] <Ttech> jtatum, IT tells me who is identified and who is not
[02:59] <Ttech> pleia2, It changes color of the +
[02:59] <pleia2> Ttech: ah :)
[02:59] <Darkwing> sou cant tell if i am?
[03:00] <Ttech> I can tell.
[03:00] <Darkwing> whats the command?
[03:00] <Ttech> There are other CAP features to let keep track of nicks as welll
[03:00] <Ttech> Darkwing,  CAP REQ :identify-msg
[03:01] <pleia2> oh hey, meeting time!
[03:01] <pleia2> who all is here for the meeting? :)
[03:01] <Ttech> Obviously me.
[03:01] <jtatum> o/
[03:01] <pleia2> Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/12January29
[03:01] <Ttech> Your newest Ubuntu member.
[03:01] <Darkwing> yo
[03:01]  * Ttech hides
[03:01]  * eps nods
[03:02] <Darkwing> woot
[03:02] <pleia2> welcome Ttech :)
[03:02]  * philipballew is here
[03:02] <pleia2> so our only agenda item: SCALE10x wrap-up
[03:02] <pleia2> Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/sets/72157629015857079/
[03:02] <pleia2> my blog post: http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=5660
[03:03] <pleia2> philipballew's blog post: http://philipballew.wordpress.com/2012/01/30/fun-at-scale10x/
[03:03] <Ttech> I have photos too. :/
[03:03] <pleia2> awesome weekend \o/
[03:03] <pleia2> Ttech: share!
[03:03] <pleia2> (for meeting logs :))
[03:03] <Darkwing> it looked good. sorry i wasnt there at booth more
[03:03] <pleia2> Darkwing: thanks for bringing along all the booth stuff, the raffle was very fun :)
[03:04] <Ttech> My photos! http://j.mp/yaS1RC
[03:04] <akk> For the record, I agree on SCALE's awesomeness. :)
[03:04] <Darkwing> sweet! ill talk to oreally again for next year
[03:04]  * philipballew still has free tshirts to wear
[03:04] <Ttech> I second akk statement.
[03:04] <Darkwing> lol
[03:05] <Ttech> philipballew, Still got tuxy?
[03:05] <pleia2> we gave out about 450 Ubuntu CDs, and 40 or so of Server and Kubuntu
[03:05] <Darkwing> phil, you made out on the t shirts
[03:05] <philipballew> sittin right above me
[03:05] <pleia2> so next year we'll definitely ask Canonical again for a shipment just for the conference :)
[03:05] <philipballew> total tshirt count was 24
[03:05] <Darkwing> yup
[03:05] <pleia2> anything we could have done better?
[03:06] <Ttech> Not sure, it was a pretty crazy booth
[03:06] <Ttech> but perhaps more updated stickers and magazines? (if you can manage that)
[03:06] <pleia2> yeah, we were pretty non-stop busy
[03:06] <Darkwing> bigger room for ubucon
[03:06] <eps> +1
[03:06] <pleia2> more stickers would be good, I think we had 20 sheets and even cut up into 3 pieces they went fast
[03:06] <philipballew> we could have got more peoples information maybe like by scanning them?
[03:07] <pleia2> we got updated magazines from the Ubuntu User folks later in the conference
[03:07] <pleia2> (we wanted to get rid of the old ones early on, that's why we had them :))
[03:07] <Ttech> You guys don't even need to crazy QR scanners they had, just a cell phone or web cam.
[03:07] <jtatum> Wow
[03:07] <Darkwing> i think a better booth build would be good
[03:08] <pleia2> "better booth build"?
[03:08] <Darkwing> that table is wayyyyyy too full
[03:08] <Darkwing> more table space,
[03:08] <Darkwing> ill draft up a couple ideas
[03:08] <pleia2> cool
[03:09] <Ttech> I don't know if they allow it, but maybe two tables?
[03:09] <Darkwing> ill see what i can pull. :)
[03:09] <philipballew> The table had the right amount of stuff on it I felt, but Maybe a few ideas would never hurt
[03:09] <Ttech> If you guys snagged a second table - you could have people helping at one and the regular booth at the other
[03:10] <Ttech> It might really expand the horizon for Ubuntu + Ubuntu CA
[03:10] <Ttech> If you guys don't mind. I mean personally that is fun for me, but I'm not technically a member of either ubuntu or ubuntu ca (yet)
[03:10] <Darkwing> i have some crazy ideas
[03:10] <pleia2> I think we'd have to get some more volunteers if we did more debugging at the table
[03:10] <eps> Who chooses our location? Unlike most of the room, our entire row wasn't particularly well lit. I almost wish we had a bunch of LED tea lights.
[03:10] <pleia2> eps: we're assigned a spot by scale staff
[03:10] <Darkwing> eps ill see if i can fix that for next year
[03:11] <pleia2> I was really tired at the end of the weekend, only managed to get to a handful of talks, and we didn't offer debugging this year
[03:11] <Darkwing> i was drained after that too lol
[03:12] <pleia2> haha, did you sleep at all? :)
[03:12] <Darkwing> 4 hours for the weekend. thurs - mon
[03:12] <Darkwing> :D
[03:13] <pleia2> well, it was a great weekend, thanks to everyone who helped out at the booth, I think jbermudes was there more than anyone :)
[03:13] <Darkwing> aye
[03:13] <pleia2> anyone have anything else to discuss meeting-wise? announcements? thoughts?
[03:14] <Darkwing> one thing
[03:14] <pleia2> shoot
[03:14] <Darkwing> our state is hosting uds in may
[03:14] <jyo> Is it too early to think about UDS hap..exactly
[03:14] <Ttech> pleia2, If you need help next year, let me know btw.
[03:14] <pleia2> Ubuntu Developer Summit: http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[03:14] <Darkwing> normally the loco has an event
[03:15] <eps> Any deadlines we need to be aware of?
[03:15]  * philipballew reads
[03:15] <Darkwing> pizza night, movie night
[03:15]  * Ttech reads as well
[03:15] <pleia2> eps: only if you intend to apply for travel and hotel sponsorship
[03:15] <Darkwing> we need to have a plan in place by march 10th
[03:15] <pleia2> details about that here: http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/01/27/ubuntu-developer-summit-sponsorship-now-open-3/
[03:15] <Ttech> pleia2, You can get a sponsorship for that?
[03:15] <eps> Riiiight. They can pay for my BART ticket. ;-)
[03:15] <Darkwing> lol
[03:15] <Ttech> ah you read me mind
[03:15] <philipballew> get me some of that Oakland!
[03:15] <pleia2> Darkwing: march 10th?
[03:16] <jtatum> Publish helpful area maps and such?
[03:16] <philipballew> I can help with event planning pleia2. Just tell me what to do
[03:16] <Darkwing> yup. its so we can plan it for printing with uds
[03:16] <pleia2> wednesday night of UDS is usually a pretty free one
[03:16] <pleia2> Darkwing: printing with uds..?
[03:17] <philipballew> take them into the city?
[03:17] <Darkwing> on the badges again.
[03:17] <pleia2> Monday, Tuesday and Friday are busy, Thursday is team dinners
[03:17] <pleia2> Darkwing: ah, ok
[03:17] <Ttech> do you guys do logging for these meetings? I swore I saw it somewhere.
[03:17] <Darkwing> this way we have our plans setup.
[03:17] <pleia2> it can be as simple as "Ubuntu California Explore SF Night" ;)
[03:18] <pleia2> Ttech: yes, all channel logs are at irclogs.ubuntu.com and we put them on our meetings page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings
[03:18] <philipballew> We'll just need to find places with good late hours
[03:18] <pleia2> Darkwing: want to create a wiki page under Projects/ and start gathering some ideas?
[03:18] <Darkwing> anyway. ill post something to the ml and yes, ill do that too.
[03:18] <eps> Ubuntify Oakland!
[03:18] <pleia2> great, thanks :)
[03:19] <Ttech> that sounds like a party
[03:19] <Darkwing> yup yup
[03:19] <philipballew> paint the streets purple and orange!!!
[03:19] <pleia2> Linaro Connect is coming up soon: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2012-January/001878.html
[03:19] <pleia2> they used to have it alongside UDS, but they've split it off
[03:19] <pleia2> it'll be in Redwood City Feb 6-10
[03:19] <Darkwing> it got too crazy
[03:19] <pleia2> I've been talking to some of the Ubuntu folks coming into town, they may want to do dinner :)
[03:20] <pleia2> I'll send a mail to the list when we have some more timing ieas
[03:20] <pleia2> ideas
[03:20] <pleia2> also have an SF Ubuntu Hour coming up on the 8th: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/1514/detail/
[03:20] <Darkwing> anyway, thats was my two bits for this meeting
[03:20] <eps> Is there a backup location in case The Roastery isn't available?
[03:21] <jyo> BA Debian dinner this month afterwards?
[03:21] <pleia2> eps: they put up a sign saying the closing at 6PM hours are only through January 30th
[03:21] <pleia2> so we should be good
[03:21] <pleia2> jyo: yep!
[03:22] <Darkwing> aaaaand, im off
[03:22] <pleia2> I think we can wrap up then
[03:22]  * Darkwing waves
[03:22] <pleia2> thanks everyone :)
[03:22]  * Ttech wobbles
[03:23]  * philipballew dances
[03:23] <jtatum> Thanks all
[03:23]  * Ttech joins
[03:41] <philipballew> pleia2, For a uds sponsorship how long would you think the about yourself part should be?
[03:42] <philipballew> If you dont know, its all good
[04:20] <Ttech> quiet, its a philipballew
[04:20]  * Ttech looks the other way
[05:35]  * philipballew just fixed the giant spelling errors in his blog
[05:35]  * philipballew always looks bad when it comes to these things
[07:46] <jbermudes> Paste it into an office app to check spelling before posting? :)
[16:56] <nhaines> jbermudes: now that Firefox supports inline spell-check for the past 2 or 3 years, no one has a good excuse anymore.  :)
[17:21] <akgraner> hey y'all - I'll be in Redwood City for work next week - so if anyone wants to get together after work one evening let me know- let's see what we can work out.
[17:22] <akk> Yeah!
[17:23] <akk> I can get to Redwood City whatever works for you and other people.
[17:23] <akk> whatever night, that is (edit fail)
[18:41] <dragon> pleia2: to answer your question... http://i.imgur.com/WAlid.jpg
[18:42] <dragon> NSFW ^
[19:11] <philipballew> I found my bike!
[20:34] <nhaines> One day I will reboot my virtual private server (and gain all security enhancements from the past 195 days)
[20:36] <DonkeyHotei> heh
[20:38] <nhaines> DonkeyHotei: although that did remind me to pay the invoice I got this weekend.  :)
[21:20] <bkerensa> nhaines: :P


[03:42] <nigelb> IdleOne: official representative of Canada? right
[03:43] <valorie> just as you are for India
[03:43] <valorie> :-)
[03:43] <valorie> and me for the USA
[03:44] <nigelb> heh
[03:44] <nigelb> valorie: IdleOne is from quebec, I was about to pull his leg about it :D
[03:44] <valorie> oooo, Quebecois!
[05:14] <elky> nigelb, he did say "the canadas"
[05:16] <valorie> nicely spied, elky
[05:16]  * valorie calls up the FBI
[05:16] <valorie> ;-)
[05:32] <IdleOne> elky: you saw that huh
[05:40] <nigelb> elky: heh
[05:40] <nigelb> elky: good one ;)
[10:04] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:19] <nigelb> czajkowski: good morning! Hows your weekend?
[10:22] <czajkowski> in bed watching tv on laptop
[10:23] <czajkowski> mothership found google earth last night and spent hours on it
[10:23] <czajkowski> looking at places she lived years ago and zooming up to the house,
[10:23] <czajkowski> it's a new toy for her
[10:27] <nigelb> heh
[10:27]  * nigelb giggles at mothership
[10:28] <czajkowski> nigelb: all being and all knowing! trust me best name
[10:28] <nigelb> czajkowski: heh, agreed about all being and all knowing - all mom's are that way
[10:29] <valorie> we just pretend well
[10:29] <valorie> ;-)
[10:30] <czajkowski> valorie: hah
[10:41] <nigelb> valorie: aha, so that's the secret!
[10:42] <valorie> oh shoot, this is logged
[10:42] <nigelb> heh
[10:42] <valorie> I've lost plausible deniability
[10:43] <valorie> sorry, mothers of the world
[10:43] <czajkowski> valorie: we wont tell
[10:43] <valorie> I've let down the side
[10:43] <valorie> lol
[10:43] <nigelb> valorie: the LOGS will haunt you!
[10:44] <valorie> exactly!
[10:45] <valorie> you sneaky lot already knew it anyway
[10:45] <valorie> I know you've gotten away with unspeakable crimes......
[10:45] <valorie> lol
[10:48] <czajkowski> :)
[10:49] <valorie> the key bit: we love you anyway
[10:49] <valorie> that's actually the secret
[10:56] <czajkowski> valorie: how many kids do you have?
[10:57] <valorie> 3 birth children
[10:57] <valorie> and Colin, whom I raised from 14 on
[10:57] <valorie> he's 21 now
[10:57] <czajkowski> valorie: wow 4 kids
[10:58] <czajkowski> valorie: any of them converted to ubuntu :)
[10:58] <valorie> my oldest is ...35
[10:58] <valorie> he's the one who moved me to Mandrake, then Gentoo, and finally Kubuntu
[10:59] <valorie> see, I have earned the linux grandma thing
[10:59] <valorie> because I had my grandson using Qimo last time they were over
[10:59] <valorie> :-)
[11:02] <czajkowski> impressive
[11:12] <czajkowski> gah the mothership staye up till 5am on google earth
[11:21]  * valorie hopes not to do the same thing
[11:22] <valorie> niters all
[11:23] <nigelb> night valorie :)
[11:27] <czajkowski> valorie: nn
[11:27] <czajkowski> time for some late breakie
[11:28]  * nigelb yawns
[11:29] <nigelb> in retrospect, getting up at 3:30 am wasn't such a great idea
[13:08] <czajkowski> nigelb: why.... were you up that early?
[13:09] <nigelb> czajkowski: well, I got up thirsty, then I went to check what happened to the match, and then started readinhg a book, and ended up not going back to bed
[13:14] <czajkowski> ugh hate those nights
[13:15] <nigelb> the only thing that's keping me awake is foosball ever 30 minutes :D
[13:31] <czajkowski> :(
[13:35] <czajkowski> interesting blog post, some of the stuff I'd never evn thought of http://geekfeminism.org/2010/06/20/clothes-and-geek-feminism/  I just get dressed.
[13:36] <czajkowski> which I found when reading http://geekfeminism.org/2010/06/17/can-you-dress-well-and-be-taken-seriously-as-a-woman-in-technology/
[13:39] <czajkowski> but what is  a staqndard geek uniform?
[13:40] <czajkowski> *standard
[13:43] <Pendulum> czajkowski: I've always assumed it was geeky-tshirt or polo shirt & jeans or kahkis
[13:44] <czajkowski> ah gotcha
[13:44] <czajkowski> I don't equate that to geeky though, but I guess it could be
[13:46] <Pendulum> well I'm specifying geeky t-shirts there
[13:46] <Pendulum> (or geeky polo shirts)
[13:47] <czajkowski> *nods*
[13:47] <czajkowski> the 2nd post I liked to raised some interesting points on how people dress at work
[13:48] <czajkowski> Pendulum: you've seen me and see how I dress, it's not geeky, but I do love my jeans and hoddys in the winter, compared to my sister I dress like a slob. so I suspect it'll depend on where you work
[13:48] <czajkowski> Do you think that dressing up in geek society is a privilege?
[13:48] <czajkowski> is a questions raised.
[13:48] <czajkowski> I don't think it is.  I think it's how ever a person feels comfortable
[13:52] <Pendulum> I think dressing up + being taken seriously can be a privileged situation, but it's also pretty complicated
[13:52] <Pendulum> and isn't always a geek thing
[13:53] <Pendulum> But, I also don't think you dress particularly dressy
[13:56] <Pendulum> I do think it's a lot about context
[13:57] <Pendulum> if you can dress corporate and still be taken seriously in a context where everyone around you is in jeans and a t-shirt, then in any circle you've got privlege
[13:57] <Pendulum> I do think there can be pressure to blend in with the guys, though, at geek events
[13:58] <Pendulum> which is why I tend to (consciously) go the other way (not to mention the fact that I don't actually know where my jeans are)
[14:06] <Pendulum> and those articles only minorly touch on the ablism of clothing expectations
[14:06] <Pendulum> *disablism
[14:21] <czajkowski> aye perhaps just places I've worked it really didnt matter if I wore a dress, jeans or suit.  everyone wore what they liked tbh
[14:21] <czajkowski> but then again small company
[14:22] <czajkowski> approx 28 inhouse stafff
[14:22] <czajkowski> hse as long as it was smart it was ok
[14:22] <Pendulum> oh, I totally stood out where I worked because I dressed "too nice"
[14:24] <czajkowski> I did on ocassion when I'd gone weeks in hoodies and jeans to come in the next day in jeans heels and a going out top for post woerk drink
[14:24] <czajkowski> but then agai my place was a tad weird.


 Happy Monday, and happy International Cat Day! 😸
[09:18] <popey> meow
[09:21] <zmoylan-pi> and not happy be careful, it's monday out there?
[09:37] <brmbrmcar> brmbrmmeow
[09:43] <davmor2> JamesTait: got you covered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBdSqk78nHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CevxZvSJLk8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcUza_wWCfA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JAk_UZ7xF8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2PHFBlr-jM
[09:46] <davmor2> JamesTait: sorry forgot one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRv4cdZxTdQ
[09:49] <davmor2> JamesTait: that do you :)
[09:49] <JamesTait> davmor2, the internet is made of cats - you're spoiled for choice. 😉
[09:50] <davmor2> JamesTait: it's true I just went for the obvious ones with the evanescence twist
[09:51] <JamesTait> https://youtu.be/zi8VTeDHjcM for completeness.
[10:33] <daftykins> morning all
[10:34] <davmor2> daftykins: morning
[10:35] <daftykins> http://imgur.com/a/2mthR
[10:35] <daftykins> i'm not entirely convinced i'm not damaged my iron with the way it's gone brown :P
[10:35] <daftykins> er *damaging
[10:38] <slick> My wife has had an iron that is brown the whole time I have known her. Since 1996.
[10:38] <daftykins> soldering or of the clothing variety? :)
[10:38] <slick> good point. clothing.
[10:39] <slick> ha! point!
[10:39] <daftykins> ah i'm told it's normal
[10:40] <zmoylan-pi> i think all irons have plastic components that turn brown from heat... probably trying to poke ocr people to buy new irons
[10:40] <slick> I would not be surprised if she did have a soldering iron. Once I told her I thought my alternator was bad in my car and she put in a new one, on the side of the road. She is very handy.
[10:42] <daftykins> still puzzled at the concept of putting solder on to take items off :)
[11:22] <MooDoo> howdy all
[11:22] <Seeker`> heya
[11:33] <daftykins> aww look what you did!
[11:33] <daftykins> ;]
[11:54] <daftykins> yay all the bad caps desoldered :D
[11:54] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/7uzo3sqzd92lzw8/IMG_20160808_105231.jpg?dl=0
[11:54] <davmor2> daftykins: chainsaw is faster
[11:55] <zmoylan-pi> daftykins... with a chainsaw... that's darwin material right there... :-P
[11:56] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: shhhhh
[11:57] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: he might be able to read
[11:57] <davmor2> daftykins: it'll be fine don't worry :)
[12:00] <daftykins> :D
[12:00]  * daftykins revs said chainsaw
[12:00] <daftykins> 8D
[12:01] <davmor2> It's only a flesh wound! Come back here and I'll bite your capacitors off
[12:01]  * zmoylan-pi fires up video app on phone and gets out towel to wipe off blood...
[12:24] <diddledan> I wondered at the weekend over whether it would be appropriate for me to admit that I handled my dad's chopper
[12:25] <diddledan> I was also coerced into trimming my parents' bushes as a kit
[12:25] <diddledan> kid*
[12:26] <daftykins> my my, you ought to be locked up
[12:29] <daftykins> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/820UF-6-3V-105c-LOW-ESR-8mmx11-5mm-Long-Life-Rubycon-6-3ZLH820MEFC8X11-5-x10pcs-/300494581145
[12:29] <daftykins> looks like what i'm after, even i recognise the rubycon name too, so perhaps that's a good choice
[12:29] <daftykins> plus the guys in Devon!
[12:35] <daftykins> £4.65 delivered :)
[14:49] <diddledan> daftykins: memory test is running
[14:49] <daftykins> \o/
[14:50] <daftykins> did you say your new build is all ECC stuffs?
[15:13] <diddledan> nope that was a different pc with the rcc rams
[15:13] <diddledan> it's using my old amd bulldozer
[15:13] <diddledan> 50% tested, and ok so far
[15:14] <zmoylan-pi> it's always the last ram stick... :-)
[15:14] <diddledan> lol
[15:14] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: hush you
[15:14]  * diddledan shoves fingers in his ears and yells out "I'M NOT LISTENING LA LA LA LA"
[15:15] <diddledan> the question, is whose fingers did I just shove in my ears?
[15:17] <daftykins> :D
[15:18] <daftykins> i have an odd one with one of my core 2 quads, it's running prime95 upstairs right now - overnight it failed on one core after 5.5 hours
[15:18] <diddledan> oof
[15:18] <diddledan> sucky nuts
[15:18]  * diddledan wanders-off in search of icey cream
[15:19] <daftykins> it's running again right now just fine though, but small FFTs all fit on-CPU i think
[15:21] <diddledan> just Juan Cornetto!
[15:22] <zmoylan-pi> last of the choc ices here, get them while they're hot
[15:22] <diddledan> err
[15:22] <diddledan> they're not supposed to be hot, yaknow
[15:22] <daftykins> that's one puddle for me, please
[15:23] <zmoylan-pi> hot as in popular of course
[15:24] <daftykins> nothing worse than a fully melted chocolate bar
[15:24] <diddledan> :-(
[15:24] <zmoylan-pi> banana sandwiches a few days old... but you drink them anyway... :-D
[15:25] <daftykins> when you reach for the packet and you feel that lack of resistance at the surface - you know you're gonna have a bad time
[15:25] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: *shudder*
[15:26] <diddledan> I wonder how many plugs behind my monitors are actually powering something?
[15:27] <diddledan> I've got somewhere around 2 dozen back there
[15:27] <daftykins> heh i had quite a check of all that when i built the new PC
[15:27] <zmoylan-pi> and 1 laptop... :-)
[15:27] <daftykins> i've still got issues with my pi3 occasionally crackling over the HDMI audio or even stopping briefly here and there btw, need to get in touch with the dev
[15:55] <diddledan> wtf did I just watch?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sF6-UpsxTo
[15:56] <daftykins> i have no idea but i'm not joining you :D
[15:56] <daftykins> *closed*
[15:56] <diddledan> awww :-(
[15:57] <daftykins> smelled a bit too jesus botherer, couldn't even tell if it was in parody!
[15:57] <davmor2> diddledan: in future just stick to cat videos it'll be safer for you
[15:59] <daftykins> +1
[15:59] <daftykins> gah that machine crapped out again, could be CPU or PSU maybe
[16:05] <diddledan> hmm
[16:07] <daftykins> ah well, doesn't need to be prime stable :P
[16:07] <daftykins> not if i keep it!
[16:28] <diddledan> how dirty should I feel for actually thinking Win10 isn't bad
[16:28] <diddledan> ?
[16:29] <daftykins> not at all
[16:29] <daftykins> i think it's a great upgrade from 7, the consistency is finally coming together
[16:29] <daftykins> bit embarassed whilst at my folks that i totally forgot to do the upgrades on theirs XD
[16:30] <diddledan> lol
[16:31] <diddledan> was that the initial 7-to-10 or the anniversary update-to-10?
[16:31] <daftykins> 7 to 10 yeah, i never did theirs before the deadline end
[16:31] <diddledan> oops
[16:32] <daftykins> when i fired up their desktop to sort the dreaded inkjet printer though, they'd not installed updates since May - so they don't get used much
[16:32] <daftykins> there are those articles talking about pretending to be in need of the accessibility version to still get it free, but that's a bit cheeky in my book
[16:33] <diddledan> yeah, that's evil doing that if you don't need accessibility bits
[16:33] <daftykins> but then they are fogeys so i'm sure they'll be after the magnifying glass soon enough ;)
[16:34] <daftykins> muggins here got the delight of unclogging the black ink cartridge in an Epson XP-4xx
[16:34] <zmoylan-pi> that's why the big swiss army knives have a pin in the handle... to unblock tiny holes... :-)
[16:36] <daftykins> they didn't even seem to be quite like that in their design, i put some window cleaner and distilled water on a piece of kitchen towel and folded it up under the printhead track... before swiping it left and right to settle on there under the black, one more printhead clean operation and it started flowing again
[17:09]  * daftykins enables logging on his pi and watches for evidence
[17:10] <diddledan> :-o evidence!
[17:17] <daftykins> ok nothing there, so it must be on the HDMI link
[17:18] <daftykins> lets disable HDMI CEC for a test
[17:40] <daftykins> nope still fudged, time to talk to the dev!
[17:40] <daftykins> perhaps they're only viable with the DAC add-ons
[17:42] <diddledan> your daily awww: http://i.imgur.com/92iX6.jpg
[17:45] <daftykins> "jesus, i... i installed arch"
[17:45] <daftykins> "it's ok, it'll all be over..." *asteroid*
[17:49] <diddledan> lol
[17:50] <diddledan> daftykins: you mean "it'll all be over before you've got it running properly"
[17:50] <daftykins> that's a given though right? :)
[17:50] <diddledan> the Gentoo equiv is "it'll all be over before you've compiled it"
[17:50] <daftykins> how's the memtest btw?
[17:50] <diddledan> done
[17:50] <diddledan> it is fine
[17:50] <daftykins> yaaaay
[17:50] <daftykins> an ivybridge build i did for a mate a couple of years back had the RAM go bad within a couple of weeks, i text him how to memtest and we did the RMA remotely (since i'd ordered down to here)
[17:51] <daftykins> super simples
[19:31] <Laney> whhhhhhhhy is my port forwarding not working
[19:31] <Laney> WAIT
[19:31] <Laney> bet my IP changed
[19:32] <daftykins> but you have a dynamic DNS hostname, right?
[19:32] <daftykins> or if you meant internal IP, that'd only happen if you used something really daft like DHCP reservation, right? :D
[19:33] <Laney> "dynamic"
[19:33] <Laney> it's a subdomain that I update whenever this kind of thing happens
[19:33] <Laney> and then forget about 2 years later when it happens again
[19:33] <daftykins> wow that's a flawed setup
[19:33] <Laney> and whinge on irc
[19:34] <Laney> and then fix it
[19:34] <Laney> repeat
[19:34] <daftykins> my registrar lets you have a client to update dynamic hosts \o/
[19:34] <Laney> not flawed enough for me to put any effort into fixing it
[19:34] <daftykins> do it for us, Laney!
[19:35] <Laney> just slap me the next time I moan about it
[19:35] <daftykins> but that could be years!
[19:35] <daftykins> just err... tell me your ISP and i'll switch you to a daily renewal :)
[19:36] <Laney> it's that xkcd thing
[19:36] <Laney> time saved vs time spent
[19:37] <Laney> although the impact of it today was that I couldn't connect to my desktop while I was working at the library
[19:37] <Laney> which was actually quite irritating
[19:37] <daftykins> i don't think it's that much work at all
[19:38] <daftykins> it is if you try to get a dynamic DNS updater working on Linux mind you, they're _awful_
[19:38] <Laney> I think dd-wrt actually has something like this
[19:39] <daftykins> yeah most routers to have built-in updaters but they tend to be pretty limited in scope
[19:39] <daftykins> s/to/do/
[19:39]  * Laney turns to goop
[19:39]  * Laney slides away
[19:40] <Laney> </alex mack>
[20:34] <diddledan> grr @ getting older. I've started regularly mis-drinking and ending up in a coughing fit
[20:36] <daftykins> drinking o0
[20:36] <daftykins> ah like choking yourself
[20:36] <daftykins> :D
[20:38] <diddledan> yeah, drinking wrong
[20:39] <diddledan> you'd think I'd have mastered it by now
[20:39] <diddledan> turns out I'm a moron
[20:39] <daftykins> i find myself moving around and going off balance at times, even on the flat :(
[20:39] <daftykins> but then i blame it all on my little head braking manoeuvre
[20:40] <diddledan> well at least you stopped yourself
[20:40] <diddledan> would be terrible if you carried-on moving
[20:40] <daftykins> that's true, i could've landed on Mars
[20:40] <diddledan> zacly
[20:42] <diddledan> is 4.7 already out now? http://betanews.com/2016/08/07/linux-microsoft-surface-3/
[20:43] <diddledan> that url talks of 4.8 RC1 being touted, but I thought they were still working on 4.7!
[20:44] <daftykins> kernel.org seems to suggest 4.7 is stable
[20:46] <diddledan> aah, I must have read the release of 4.7 as a prerelease
[20:59] <daftykins> hmm someone is suggesting my Onkyo AVR and the Pis are incompatible :P
[21:01] <diddledan> wha?
[21:01] <daftykins> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?105018-Announce-piCorePlayer-2-00/page139
[21:02] <daftykins> this is why i don't like forums, i laid it out all carefully - "let me just guess what you have there"
[21:04] <diddledan> nice bit of fuzz there - some bands go out of their way to achieve that effect
[21:05] <daftykins> :>
[21:05] <daftykins> that was before the boost option i mention, but it still blanks out like that a lot which for a music player role, is very offputting
[21:05] <daftykins> now i know i could buy a DAC addon for the Pi but that doubles your per-node price
[21:06] <diddledan> I like the "I have an onkyo" .. "do you have an onkyo?"
[21:06] <diddledan> talk about missing the bleeding obvious
[21:07] <daftykins> yeah like reading the thread :(
[21:07] <daftykins> *post
[21:07] <diddledan> hell of a reply to your obvious statement of "I have an onkyo"
[21:08] <diddledan> (paraphrase)
[21:08] <daftykins> :D
[21:09] <diddledan> what's the music, anyway? :-p
[21:18] <daftykins> diddledan: that i think: http://lematos.bandcamp.com
[21:19] <daftykins> maybe not necessarily that album, but yeah
[22:41] <daftykins> wag114: bounce bounce bounce!


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[01:22] <newmate> Hey.I made a USB boot drive for ubuntu mate
[01:23] <newmate> my BIOS foundit and I set it to boot priority 1
[01:23] <newmate> But when I leave BIOS or just start my computer, it doesn't boot from the USB
[01:29] <newmate> The bootable USB guide on this site seems to be for current linux users
[01:34] <newmate> I used Rufus with default settings (but making sure to create a bootable drive, and to indicate that I was dealingwith an ISO file)
[01:35] <newmate> But Rufus couldn't handle the latest syslinux for ubuntumate 16.04, so ithad to download 2 files to make the boot drive... not sure if that would cause problems
[04:01] <plex> lp
[04:02] <plex> i can not get cgi working
[04:02] <plex> help
[08:46] <ubuntu-mate> do piceeeeee, co to je<.. a kde je otaynik
[14:43] <red_1990> Hello
[14:43] <ouroumov_> hi red_1990
[14:43] <red_1990> I am having a problem, can you help me ?
[14:43] <ouroumov_> Depends on the problem. Do tell.
[14:44] <red_1990> Okay...  Recently I have moved from windows 10 to Ubuntu-mate.
[14:44] <red_1990> I have installed couple of java IDE like Eclipse and Netbeans
[14:45] <red_1990> But I am having issue with Eclipse IDE
[14:45] <red_1990> It looks ugly.
[14:46] <ouroumov_> Mkay, have you tried different themes? Does Eclipse have appearance settings you can tweak?
[14:46] <red_1990> I tried changing Eclipse themes but that didn't work.
[14:46] <ouroumov_> Hm
[14:47] <red_1990> I am using Eclipse 4.5.2 Mars 2
[14:47] <ouroumov_> So I've no idea what eclipse relies on for theming
[14:47] <ouroumov_> But if they use system themes in their UI maybe you can try a different theme for Ubuntu MATE
[14:48] <red_1990> I am using Numix theme with Numix-circle icon theme
[14:50] <red_1990> I guess I'll just post this on web-forum may be somebody has the solution
[14:50] <ouroumov_> red_1990, include screenshots
[14:50] <ouroumov_> red_1990, maybe you should also look towards Eclipse support
[14:51] <ouroumov_> Since the problem is likely to be in Eclipse, not in Ubuntu MATE
[14:52] <red_1990> Can you direct me to correct eclipse forum or ubuntu-mate forum
[14:53] <ouroumov_> red_1990, UM forum is @ https://ubuntu-mate.community
[14:53] <ouroumov_> As for the Eclipse forum, I don't know.
[14:54] <red_1990> okay.. I'll look it up on web
[16:49] <maricela> hola
[17:04] <Jfault> https://imgur.com/a/TIZG2
[20:53] <usuario> hola hay alguien que hable español?
[20:58] <ouroumov_> !es | usuario
[20:58] <ouroumov_> usuario, also: https://ubuntu-mate.community/c/multilingual/spanish
[22:55] <abu-naji> hey guys can anyone help me
[22:56] <abu-naji> steam doesnt seam to open up
[23:25] <troyforbes> exit


[08:15] <hads> ibeardslee: Why are you talking to my competitors about CatalystAcadamy instead of me?