[00:30] <rich__> what do people use as a replacement for jeos and vmbuilder?
[00:31] <rich__> I was using that script and those binaries quite happily a year ago, but it appears they are no longer actively developed?
[00:31] <rich__> what is the quickest way to get a minimal kvm ubuntu machine up these days?
[00:39] <zaclnxnewb> virusuy: it worked by the way
[00:39] <zaclnxnewb> virusuy: thanks
[03:56] <chazz_tsc> Good evening. It would seem I have a badly misconfigured sendmail. Is there someone who would be willing to help a n00b?
[07:54] <isnoop> What is the most commonly used means of creating an apt mirror with "blessed" versions of code for a server group?
[07:54] <twb> I don't know about "common"
[07:54] <isnoop> I'm seeing talk about apt-cacher-ng, approx, apt-proxy and others...
[07:54] <twb> Are you talking about a local mirror of someone else's archive, or are you talking about creating your own archive of your own in-house packages?
[07:55] <isnoop> A mirror of someone else's archive.
[07:55] <twb> A full mirror or an on-demand mirror?
[07:55] <isnoop> Essentially, a subset of only the software we need and only the versions we've approved.
[07:55] <lifeless> custom repository
[07:55] <twb> That is, do you want to fetch all of, say, lucid main up front, or do you want to fetch packages from upstream only when someone actually tries to install them?
[07:56] <twb> The former is IME *far* more reliable, but requires an up-front gigabytes download and ongoing hundreds-megabyte/week downloads
[07:56] <isnoop> Close...  Fetch all of lucid main of front but then only update, say, Apache when we're ready for a bump.
[07:58] <twb> For that there is debmirror (which I use), and IIRC another one that is about as good
[08:04] <sbeattie> twb: debmirror (which I also use) doesn't really let you pick and choose versions of stuff from -updates, though.
[08:04] <isnoop> Looks pretty handy!  I think we can run with that.  Thanks.
[08:04] <twb> sbeattie: granted
[08:05] <twb> sbeattie: what I planned to do (haven't yet), is to have two mirrors
[08:05] <twb> sbeattie: one pulls from upstream, and you test that.  Then, you pull from THAT mirror into the "stable" one that your production machines pull from
[08:05] <twb> I think apt-mirror was the other one
[08:10] <isnoop> sbeattie: Aah, I'm just realizing the same thing.
[08:26] <Xano> My Ubuntu htpc is connected to the network using a WPA2 protected network, which means it needs the keyring to be unlocked every time the machine boots. However, as it also doubles as a server, I need the machine to be able to boot and start all services (including wifi) without any action of my part. I am looking for a way to remove the need for logging in to the keyring.
[08:43] <twb> Remove the passphrase from the cert, then
[08:43] <twb> Wait, is this WPA2-EAP or WPA2-PSK?
[08:44] <Xano> twb: psk
[08:44] <twb> So put the PSK in your wpa_supplicant.conf
[09:16] <koolhead11> TeTeT, hey
[09:20] <Xano> twb: thanks. I'll try that
[09:30] <TeTeT> hi koolhead11
[09:52] <BuenGenio> hello
[09:52] <BuenGenio> are there any builds of dovecot 2.0 for Natty?
[10:42] <BuenGenio> !
[10:42] <BuenGenio> ~help
[10:42] <BuenGenio> !help
[10:42] <BuenGenio> !apt
[10:42] <BuenGenio> !search
[10:42] <BuenGenio> !search dovecot
[12:57] <raul> w
[12:58] <raul> Hello everyone, I need to monitorize a class C network, I have a pretty old computer with ubuntu 6.06 and 250MB, which network monitor program could be fine and light for my purpose? any help or experience form you will be really apreciated
[13:00] <raul> I tried to install the newest ntop release from the scratch but trying to compile it takes lots of time because dependences and I finally gave up
[13:04] <raul> no helps today... :P
[13:06] <_ruben> raul: what exactly are your monitoring requirements/needs/wishes/etc?
[13:06] <_ruben> also, remember this is irc, a place where patience is a requirement
[13:20] <raul> _ruben Hi, I would like to monitor traffic load, which Ip access where , amount of downloads, basically whe are experiencing problems wiht our network and I think ther is someona doing nasty things or maybe a virus , that's more or less what I expect
[13:21] <_ruben> that's a lot of data, depending on the traffic volume
[13:21] <patdk-wk> hopefully you have a monitored layer2 switch?
[13:21] <_ruben> i use a homegrown system based on pmacct, but i only care about my own ip addresses, not the addreses they connect to/from
[13:21] <patdk-wk> that will tell you how much traffic from each port
[13:22] <patdk-wk> that is normally how I can track down evil stuff easily, a port that suddently increases a lot
[13:22] <raul> _ruben, I used to use ntop, but on my local computer, ntop does what I would like to monitorize but the machine I have to put close to the CPD has only 250MB I don't care about nice graphs but want to have some details
[13:23] <_ruben> put more mem in it :)
[13:24] <raul> patdk-wk Hi well I want to monitorize a Intelligent Switch (label2 and 3) I have a trunk port ready
[13:25] <patdk-wk> hmm? trunk port?
[13:25] <raul> _ruben estamos en crissi
[13:25] <patdk-wk> you use snmp to monitor a switch
[13:26] <patdk-wk> there is no way your going to monitor all traffic that goes over a switch
[13:26] <raul> patdk-wk it is a Cisco Label3 switch, which is our gateway
[13:26] <patdk-wk> ah, so you wanted to setup like a mirror port to monitor your internet side?
[13:26] <raul> patdk-wk and a trunk port allows to see all trafic from any VLAN
[13:26] <sommer> hi hi
[13:27] <raul> patdk-wk exactlly
[13:28] <_ruben> trunk port != mirror port in my book :)
[13:28] <_ruben> unless this switch is actually a hub
[13:30] <patdk-wk> ya, defently not the same things
[13:30] <raul> _ruben well I don't care about the mirror port and such details it just works what I wanted to know is if anybody could suggest me a light and powerfull network monitor
[13:31] <_ruben> pmacct has some ready to use frontends to use i think
[13:31] <patdk-wk> there is no such thing as light when talking about traffic
[13:31] <_ruben> patdk-wk: depends on the traffic :)
[13:32] <patdk-wk> heh, we wheren't talking dialup modems :)
[13:32] <_ruben> and then there's fiber... also kinda light :)
[13:32] <xampart> =)
[13:32] <patdk-wk> not when it's a 3" bundle :)
[13:32] <raul> patdk-wk yes, it looks like, then the only way is just find a more powerfull computer
[13:32] <_ruben> patdk-wk: that'd be a lot of light! :)
[13:32] <patdk-wk> raul, ram normally isn't required too much
[13:33] <patdk-wk> it's normally bus speed and cpu
[13:33] <raul> patdk-wk, I know... I did not mention that my toy computer is an old dell laptop
[13:35] <raul> anyway which network monitors do you use in case of whole network monitoring? any favorite tool?
[13:36] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, I love rev25... :)  https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/cobbler/oneiric-201106090005/+merge/63942
[13:36] <_ruben> raul: like i said, i use pmacct myself, but a quite common solution is the various netflow/sflow/etc based stuff
[13:36] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx,  Your commit and upload were different, therefore your commit was popped and a merge request created.
[13:37] <raul> _ruben, thanks I will take an eye on it
[14:08] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey ah?
[14:09] <orudie>  I downloaded a program which is .run extension. How can I install it ?
[14:11] <luite> orudie: bash file.run
[14:18] <m_tadeu> should start-stop-daemon create the pid file by itself?
[14:18] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey was this done automatically?
[14:21] <orudie> I just copied over some files to the wrong place, is there a way to undo this copy operation ?
[14:22] <greppy> orudie: move them to the correct location?
[14:23] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, yeah.. if the package-importer disagrees with your commit it pops it and raises a merge proposal
[14:23] <Daviey> james_w confuses the effort by the bot doing it under his launchpad-id.
[14:25] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey right snd how can i compraeDaviey right and how.can I compare in what they differ cause I'm pretty sure they don't....
[14:26] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey i'd even say that there was something wrong going as the upload took too much time to.get processed when it shouldnt have caise i pushed the branch way after i made the upload and seconds later and announcement in lp saying that there would be.maintenance appeared
[14:26] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, did you push patches applied?
[14:26] <RoAkSoAx> or is bzr no longer sllowjng pushing branches without .pc
[14:27] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey no.... the .pc wasnt even created when i created the source
[14:27] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, I don't think /not/ pushing .pc was supported for deb src 3 branches
[14:31] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: i've done this before with deb src 3 branches with no issues whatsoever
[14:31] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: but regardless of whether the branch was pushed, the dput should have been processed regardless of the branch been uploaded or not
[14:31] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: but it wasn't until several hours later
[14:31] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: and I'm guessing this was due to maintenance in LP
[14:40] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: i guess we'll have to try it again in next upload
[14:43] <zul> i just uploaded the gpxe stuff for cobbler
[14:46] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: even edit-patch leaves the branch with patches un-applied
[14:46] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: which is why I found surprising why this happened
[14:46] <RoAkSoAx> zul: yay!
[14:50] <Daviey> hmm
 Daviey: but regardless of whether the branch was pushed, the dput should have been processed regardless of the branch been uploaded or not
[14:51] <Daviey> ^^ i don't understand that
[14:51] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: i uploaded the package with dput cobbler_baklblabla_source.changes
[14:51] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: and it took like 4 hours for it to be processed
[14:52] <Daviey> Hmm.. i've been finding processing of incoming to be really fast lately.
[14:52] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: yes that's why I was surprised yesterday, and that's why I think it was LP's issue as right after I uploaded, a message showing that there was gonna be maintenance appeared
[14:53] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: so I guess that's why everything ended up being a mess :)
[15:21] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: the divergence would have happend regardless
[15:21] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: The auto merge proposal would only happen if there is a diff between what you uploaded and what is in the branch.
[15:22] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: What you uploaded, as in if you do a diff between dpkg-source x cobbler*dsc and the bzr branch
[15:22] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: but there wasn't... as I said the changes in the source package do not include patch applied nor the .pc dir
[15:22] <Daviey> dpkg-source -x rather
[15:22] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: when you do a dpkg-source -x it applies the patches
[15:22] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: but as I said, even edit-patch leaves patches un-applied
[15:22] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: Hmm.. the .pc is created as part of the package extraction - not what you uplload
[15:23] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: so for example, we edit-patch a branch, it will leave patches un-applied, then you build de source, upload, then debcommit the branch with patches un-applied, then divergence
[15:23] <RoAkSoAx> ?
[15:23] <RoAkSoAx> cuase the branch has patches un-applied while dpkg-source -x will apply the patches on extraction
[15:24] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: Yeah, edit-path isn't perfect
[15:24] <Daviey> for example, it offers to commit whilst leaving boilerplate patch headers
[15:25] <Daviey> I think edit-patch needs fixing in that regard.
[15:25] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: well I agree with edit-patch on leaving patches un-applied as applying patches in a branch leaves with diff's that are useless IMHO
[15:25] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: Actually, a pre-commit bzr hook should check if it is deb src 3 and apply before commit IMO.
[15:25] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: yeah maybe :)
[15:25] <Daviey> The bzr team are cracking through a fix to beter handle the deb src 3 (quilt) mess
[15:26] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: yeah that's really what we need... but IMO updating a patch leaves lot of useless diff in the branch which we don't really need
[15:26] <RoAkSoAx> and for that reason, I believe patches should not be applied in the branch
[15:26] <RoAkSoAx> because every single time that we edit a new patch, a huge diff with not relevant stuff will be created
[15:26] <RoAkSoAx> and that causes confusion
[15:27] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: but either way, I'll always find a solution for that :)
[15:28] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: i entirelly agree, i think having patches applied on extraction was a mistake :)
[15:29] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: i always have to quilt pop -a after extraction
[15:33] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: well if i'm honestly, i do the same... but you shouldn't need to..
[15:42] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: indeed
[15:54] <BuenGenio> anyone know how to get sed to replace a whole line that matches a certain substring?
[16:39] <ADEX> hola buen dia busco ayuda
[16:39] <ADEX> quiero implementar un server
[16:40] <ADEX> con ubuntu 10.04
[16:47] <RoAkSoAx> !es | ADEX
[16:49] <ADEX> [RoAkSoAx] de hay me mandaron a esta sal
[16:49] <ADEX> no me puede ayudar nadie
[16:50] <jamespage> SpamapS: around?
[16:50] <RoAkSoAx> ADEX: que necesitaS?
[16:50] <queso> When I do a dpkg -l package* the full package name isn't displayed in the results, it's cut off by the width of the column that lists the names.  Is there a way to see the full names?
[16:50] <ADEX> ayuda
[16:51] <RoAkSoAx> ADEX: por eso te pregunto :).. en que te puedo ayudar... no preguntas si puedes preguntar o si alguien te puede ayudar, solo has tu pregunta
[16:51] <ADEX> quiero montar el server ubuntu 10.04
[16:51] <ADEX> para poner un proxy cache
[16:52] <RoAkSoAx> ADEX: ok...
[16:54] <RoAkSoAx> ADEX: y cual es la ayuda que necesitas entonceS?
[16:54] <ADEX> como montarlo orientacion y pues soy novato
[16:55] <RoAkSoAx> ADEX: pues en realidad no te vamos a decir como montor un proxy cache desde cero, sino mas bien vas a tener que investigarlo tu mismo, y de paso asi aprendes. En lo que te podemos ayudar es a resolver problemas o orientarte con documentacion
[16:55] <RoAkSoAx> ADEX: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/squid.html
[16:56] <ADEX> eso quieroexactamente
[16:56] <ADEX> donde leer
[16:56] <RoAkSoAx> ADEX: http://www.tutoriales-ubuntu.com/archives/configurar-un-proxy-transparente-con-squid
[16:56] <RoAkSoAx> ADEX: y google te puede ayudar tb :)
[16:57] <ADEX> uuuuu
[16:57] <ADEX> pues entonses para q son estas salas
[16:57] <RoAkSoAx> ADEX: y tambien tienes www.howtoforge.com
[16:58] <RoAkSoAx> ADEX: estas sala en especifico es para desarrollo de Ubuntu server (programacion) asi como tambien ayudar a resolver problemas, pero lo que no podemos hacer es decirte como configurar un proxy cache desde cero mas bien te podemos orientar en donde puedes aprenderlo..., es por esa razon que te he enviado los enlaces para que tu
[16:58] <RoAkSoAx> argh..
[16:58] <RoAkSoAx> ADEX: para que tu puedas leer y hacerlo
[17:00] <ADEX> si gracias
[17:00] <ADEX> puedo platicarles un proyecto
[17:01] <RoAkSoAx> ADEX: http://beginlinux.com/blog/2010/04/ubuntu-10-04-squid-proxy/
[17:02] <RoAkSoAx> ADEX: en realidad si buscas un poquito en google vas a encontrar bastante informacion de como hacer un proxy
[17:02] <ADEX> en mi pueblo estoi implementando una red inalambrica de oni direccional de 15 km
[17:02] <ADEX> y el proxy chace para eso lo quiero
[17:03] <ADEX> que negativo eres
[17:03] <RoAkSoAx> ADEX: entonces necesitas un proxy transparente
[17:03] <ADEX> nop
[17:03] <ADEX> por q si es trasparente
[17:03] <ADEX> lo q quiero es tener las paginas pre cargadas
[17:03] <ADEX> para q no tengan q estar lenta las paginas cuando las carguen
[17:04] <RoAkSoAx> ADEX: ahi arriba te he puesto bastante informacion en donde puesde leer y aprender de squid.. lamentablemente yo no te puedo hacer el proxy, ni decirte como configurarlo desde cero y no es por ser negativo, porque no lo soy, sino simplemente porque yo tambien trabajo asi como tu y tengo cosas que hacer ...
[17:04] <RoAkSoAx> ADEX: para eso funciona un proxy, no importa si es transparente o no transparent
[17:04] <ADEX> si si lo se
[17:05] <RoAkSoAx> ADEX: transparente signifca que tus clientes no sabran que hay un proxy, mientras que NO transparente significa que tendras que configurar en tus clientes el Proxy
[17:05] <RoAkSoAx> ADEX: pero al final, los dos tiene el mismo objetivo
[17:05] <RoAkSoAx> ADEX: te recomiendo que veas http://www.tutoriales-ubuntu.com/archives/configurar-un-proxy-transparente-con-squid ya que ahi te explica detalladamente como montar un proxy transparent
[17:12] <SpamapS> jamespage: here now whats up?
[17:12] <jamespage> hey SpamapS: I have a licensing question - do you have time?
[17:18] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ping?
[17:18] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: pong (in a meeting, though)
[17:18] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: quick thingy... how are you testing how much time a set of code is taking to execute?
[17:18] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: python code
[17:19] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: using the shell "time" command
[17:19] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: k thanks
[17:22] <jamespage> SpamapS: did I lose you there?
[17:24] <SpamapS> yes sorry
[17:24] <SpamapS> 8 conversations all started at once
[17:24] <SpamapS> jamespage: also I don't get highlights unless its "^SpamapS: "
[17:24] <SpamapS> something I proably should change
[17:24] <jamespage> ah-ha
[17:24] <jamespage> so are you OK to chat now (or do you need to finish the other 7?
[17:30] <SpamapS> jamespage: yeah just fire away
[17:51] <nigelb> what's the channel for ensemble and orchestra stuff?
[18:07] <SpamapS> nigelb: #ubuntu-ensemble for ensemble. Here is a good place for Orchestra.
[18:07] <nigelb> SpamapS: ensemble is the one where we can have recipies right?
[18:10] <SpamapS> nigelb: s/recipes/formulas/ ;)
[18:10] <nigelb> SpamapS: Right :)
[18:13] <ADEX> una pregunta ya instale ubuntu server 10.04 y me pide el login cuando quiero ponerlo las letras escrive mu estraño pongo luis y meescribemrhk
[18:14] <SpamapS> ADEX: puedes hablar en íngles por favor? No hay muchos habladeros de español aquí.
[18:14]  * SpamapS should write a google translator plugin for irssi
[18:14] <Delemas> I've got a 10.04 server with openssh 5.3p1-3ubuntu6 setup with sftponly chroots. It stopped working two days ago. i.e. transfers just hang with nothing useful in max debug output on client/server. Has anyone else had similar problems?
[18:15] <SpamapS> Delemas: whats your NIC driver?
[18:18] <Delemas> It should be virtio_net in the VM the underlying server is a Intel 82576 GbE.
[18:20] <ADEX> [SpamapS] el problema que no hablo ingles
[18:34] <Delemas> The failure seems to have started happening only with chrooted sftp users and after these packages were updated: snmp man-db subversion libc-bin sysv-rc sysvinit-utils initscripts libsvn1
[18:43] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: http://paste.ubuntu.com/622738/ -> port ranges for TCPMonitor
[18:45] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: neat
[18:45] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: is it backwards compatible?
[18:45] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: yes
[18:45] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: will work either for 1 or a range of ports in the way 1-10
[18:46] <RoAkSoAx> or 1 - 10
[19:09] <Delemas> Weird attempting to do apt-get installl libc-bin=2.11.1-0ubuntu7.7 (a minor downgrade) wants to remove most of the packages on the server...
[19:11]  * RoyK guesses dependencies, broken or too strict
[19:11] <Delemas> Well that version was happily installed three days ago :/
[19:12] <RoyK> duh
[19:18] <bsg_kwolf> Hello... Anyone have any tips or tricks to get NIC bonding and bridging to work on Natty for kvm guests?
[19:19] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK: ping?
[19:19] <bsg_kwolf> Having all kinds of problems.  Have tried all the interfaces recommendations I could find, but so far haven't had much luck.
[19:19] <RoyK> bsg_kwolf: never done it myself, but I guess it's just a matter of setting up a LA group and tying the bridge to that
[19:19] <bsg_kwolf> I've gotten them to work for a bit but as soon as I restart the server, it comes back up in a bad state.
[19:20] <bsg_kwolf> from what I can tell when the system comes up, the bridge isn't picking up bond0... I think.
[19:23] <aliverius> how can i change the name of the nic? i changed a nic and now instead of it being eth0 it is eth2
[19:35] <Delemas> aliverius, hmm I've had that issue before. There is a hardware address to device name mapping cached somewhere and you need to delete the file. I'm not finding the path at the moment though...
[19:36] <Delemas> Ah there it is.... To fix this clear our all the
[19:36] <Delemas>    eth entries in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and reboot.
[19:38] <ScottK> RoyK: Pong.
[19:38] <ScottK> Oops
[19:38] <ScottK> RoAkSoAx: Pong
[19:38] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK: howdy! I seek your advice!
[19:38] <RoyK> ScottK: pang
[19:38] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK: I change one package from pycentral to dh7 and dh_python2
[19:39] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK: however, now that I did that, whenever I remove --purge the package, it fails to remove the *.pyc files
[19:39] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK: debian/rules: http://paste.ubuntu.com/622771/
[19:39] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK: debian/control: http://paste.ubuntu.com/622774/
[19:40] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK: install file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/622775/
[19:40] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK: any ideas of why this might be happening?
[19:43] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK: this is how it used to be: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~powernap/powernap/trunk/revision/236
[19:47] <ScottK> RoAkSoAx: I'd look at pyspf.  It uses dh_python2 and has an install file that installs to pyshared.
[19:47] <ScottK> I don't see anything obvoius
[19:50] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK: I seem to be doing mpretty much the same thing, though 'm pretty much doing the same but
[19:51] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK: I seem to be doing mpretty much the same thing, though the pyc's are not cleaned in my case, causing the removal to not be completely clean
[19:51] <ScottK> RoAkSoAx: See pyyaml for what I did to override clean
[19:52]  * RoAkSoAx looks
[19:58] <econdudeawesome> howdy all. Is there a utility to change my default repository to ftp.utexas.edu where I don't have to directly edit the repository file?
[19:59] <zul> jdstrand: have you done the upload for libvirt yet?
[20:01] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK: ok so If the application that uses the modules are not executed, then remove --purge the package will remove it correctly because there's no *.pyc's... I don't think it would make any difference if i override dh_clean right?
[20:01] <incidence> can I set "default" virtual host for IRC-connections?  Xen doesn't suck if you have a modified guest to avoid HVM.
[20:23] <SpamapS> Daviey: you're still ultimately taxing hardware that really isn't capable of doing what you're asking it to do.
[20:24] <Daviey> SpamapS: i /really/ disagree.
[20:24] <SpamapS> I guess I don't understand Xen well enough to speak strongly about it. My experience with Xen before VT was 20% loss of performance.
[20:25] <Daviey> wow.
[20:25] <SpamapS> Xen 2.x .. on CentOS 5.0 .. long time ago. They probably figured a lot of that out.
[20:25] <Daviey> I understood xen only used VT extensions if you were using HVM.
[20:25] <Daviey> 20% loss is massive.
[20:26] <SpamapS> Daviey: hence my reservation about ever suggesting its use. ;)
[20:26] <Daviey> I don't blame you.
[20:26] <Daviey> SpamapS: My experience wasn't the same tho.
[20:26] <SpamapS> It was still quite useful for what we were doing, which was running a simulated parallel environment for unit testing.
[20:26] <Daviey> pah, who tests?
[20:26] <SpamapS> To be able to duplicate our 90 machine setup on 3 cheap machines was quite useful.
[20:27] <SpamapS> Today, I'd use LXC tho
[20:39] <aliverius> so far i have been using pfsense inside kvm. now that i dont have kvm, would opwnert at least do?
[20:40] <giovani> openwrt is meant to run on embedded hardware
[20:40] <giovani> do they have an x86 release?
[20:41] <giovani> I don't know why you'd want to ...
[20:43] <bsg_kwolf> natty seems to be ignoring 'mtu 9000' on a bridge interface on boot.
[20:43] <bsg_kwolf> Anyone else seen this?
[20:43] <bsg_kwolf> just comes up with a default 1500 mtu.
[20:45] <ScottK> RoAkSoAx: Right.  It shouldn't.
[20:45] <bsg_kwolf> known issue?
[20:46] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK: this is exactly what happens when purging, which didn't happen when I was using dh_pycentral: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/622813/
[20:47] <ScottK> RoAkSoAx: Pleae ask #POX on #debian-python on OFTC.
[20:47] <ScottK> ..s..
[20:48] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK: ok, thanks!
[20:48] <Delemas> aliverius, setup pfsense on a separate box...
[21:04] <bsg_kwolf> Alright, so to get mtu 9000 to stick it seems I have to do this:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/622829/  That doesn't seem right.
[21:04] <bsg_kwolf> Otherwise after a reboot, it goes back to 1500.
[21:06] <bsg_kwolf> still can't seem to get bonding in the mix.
[21:45] <thisismygame> I've installed minimal ubuntu on 2 computers in the last 24hrs. They both install fine, reboot and get to Grub, where after that they have nothing but a blank black screen. Am I missing something here?
[22:56] <raubvogel> Quick samba4 on ubuntu question: I see /var/lib/samba/private/krb5.conf is already nicely configured. Does the kerberos server knows to use that config file?
[22:56] <raubvogel> s/knows/know/
[22:57] <raubvogel> And is it installed with samba4?
[23:29] <zul> jamespage: i editted your wiki page


[15:24] <stgraber> highvoltage: want to have an alpha-1?
[15:25] <stgraber> highvoltage: I'll be off for part of Tuesday and all of Wednesday, so if you do, most of the testing will be on you
[17:19] <highvoltage> stgraber: if the current image passes basics, can it be used as an alpha?
[17:20] <highvoltage> stgraber: I should get some chance to test, but if there are respins I might not be able to get to them. I'd like to go over things and get up to speed with the current state anyway
[17:23] <stgraber> highvoltage: yeah, I think I did all of the usual new releases task, so we can use it for an alpha if it passes the tests
[17:23] <stgraber> highvoltage: if you feel up to it, reply to Kate on ubuntu-release (I think there's some kind of wiki page too)
[17:24] <stgraber> highvoltage: I'll be able to help on Thursday but that's about it
[17:24] <highvoltage> stgraber: I don't think it's worth while announcing the alpha on edubuntu.org though, but besides that I think it would be nice to have an alpha for anyone interested in edubuntu development
[17:25] <highvoltage> (ok will do)


[11:38] <coz_> hey guys
[12:35] <zniavre> hello im using natty + unity-2D it looks like some indicators are missing this is right ?
[13:13] <artfwo> I fixed a bug in libappindicator in my own bazaar branch. what's the procedure for review and inclusion? should I set the status to "fix committed", unassign myself or anything else?
[13:13] <artfwo> is there a wiki page about submitting code patches?
[13:14] <artfwo> bug 724917
[16:37] <SpaceGhostC2C> So, I feel somewhat ridiculous for asking the best way to report this, but after closing elementary's new email client, chromium throws a fit in unity and demands to be on every visible workspace whether minimised or explicitly set to appear only on the one work space it belongs to.
[16:38] <SpaceGhostC2C> It shows that it's on the first one, and that it is supposed to be on a single workspace in the context menu.
[16:38] <SpaceGhostC2C> It's in unity2d on maverick
[22:33] <jcastro> artfwo: you need to submit your branch for a merge proposal
[22:34] <jcastro> artfwo: https://dev.launchpad.net/UsingMergeProposals


[00:24] <kakakonto> hey
[00:24] <kakakonto> anyone know why i havent /proc/acpi/alarm
[00:25] <kakakonto> trying to setup my myth to wakeup
[00:27] <mandje> can i have tv-out with a matrox millenium g550 dualhead?
[00:28] <mandje> the card is able to, but does it work in mythbuntu?
[01:05] <pteague> anybody know what table i need to look in to find episode names?
[01:13] <pteague> nm... found it - recorded table
[01:28] <quentusrex> Hello all
[01:30] <quentusrex> Does anyone know which package controls the basic install for mythtv?
[01:30] <quentusrex> such as the menus?
[02:56] <MythbuntuGuest29> mythtv does not work, no sound with 8.04 spdif output, but I can watch a dvd from the dvd player with xine and it works great in 5.1 surround or DTS, have tried everything in mythtv, my spdif is Card 0, Device 2, anybody know how to make mythtv work properly using xine to play .iso files?  Is it possible ripping an iso doesn't rip the sourround sound?
[02:56] <MythbuntuGuest29> video is fine though
[05:33] <ajhtiredwolf> im having some mythbuntu/lirc issues. So for some reason, ifi i open mythbuntu, and then close it, lirc stops works, i have to restart it and manually start irxevent irexec daemons. also, mythbuntu crashes when i try to open tv some times, the back end will stop and i have to restart that manually too
[06:27] <MythbuntuGuest13> Hey guys
[06:28] <MythbuntuGuest13> anyone still awake?
[11:42] <cee> hey there.  I'm setting up my ubuntu mythtv box using a DVICO  FusionHDTV DVB-T Dual Digital 4.  I've just configured the proprietary ATI linux driver for my  Radeon HD 2400. Now I watch tv and see the same channel twice.  Any suggestions?
[15:15] <MythbuntuGuest61> hey
[15:16] <MythbuntuGuest61> can anyone give me some help sorting transcode out
[18:33] <Daviey> !
[18:33] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about
[18:45] <muffi1> Hello?
[18:55] <jphillip> Daviey I guess you want me to fix that?
[18:55] <Daviey> jphillip: naa
[18:55] <Daviey> jphillip: i was just doing a !ping test
[19:00] <muffi1> Hi guys I have a VIA epia MS  and I wonder if is possible to add the TV out settings for the next resease?
[19:44] <MythbuntuGuest28> hey can anyone help me with Myth Transcoding Daemon , its not working properlly n i need some advice
[20:56] <MythbuntuGuest18> help no audio using spdif  with myth, playing dvd with VLC from dvd drive is fine, tried alsa settings on audio page with no luck
[22:06] <muffi1> any mythbuntu developers here?
[22:16] <superm1> muffi1, what's up?
[22:19] <Shadow__X> hey superm1
[22:19] <superm1> hi Shadow__X
[22:20] <muffi1> I have one tip
[22:20] <muffi1> My motherboard is a via epia MS
[22:21] <muffi1> and couldn't make tv work with any ubuntu
[22:22] <muffi1> so after trying several distros I use a sabayon live cd
[22:22] <muffi1> this one boots ok on tv out only
[22:22] <muffi1> and also make work my ati remote wonder
[22:22] <muffi1> on the live cd!
[22:23] <muffi1> I wonder if it is possible to add that to the next release?
[22:24] <muffi1> basically the xorg uses framebuffer by default and adds a couple of lines for the tv out
[22:25] <superm1> muffi1, well xorg conf isn't used much in 8.10 anymore
[22:25] <superm1> muffi1, it's all hal fdi files, so if you come up with an fdi file that does the trick we can still squeeze it in
[22:26] <muffi1> on the live CD?
[22:26] <superm1> well on the live cd and distro
[22:26] <muffi1> ok let me check that what address should send it?
[22:31] <superm1> muffi1, file a bug with the relevant info
[22:31] <superm1> its less likely to be lost there
[22:31] <muffi1> ok
[22:32] <muffi1> do you have a link?
[22:32] <muffi1> I never filed one before
[22:32] <superm1> bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu
[22:32] <muffi1> thx!
[22:32] <muffi1> mythbuntu rocks!
[22:42] <henrik_> I'm on ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex with added weekly fixes in reps, Im trying to install frontend (portable computer) to be able to connect to backend. But I get an error, sudo apt-get install mythtv-frontend
[22:43] <henrik_> mythtv-frontend: dependent of: liblame0 (>= 3.97) but kan not be installed
[22:43] <henrik_> sudo apt-get install liblame0
[22:44] <henrik_> then it says the package has been outdated and replaced by libmp3lame0, and this package is installed
[22:48] <superm1> weekly builds aren't happening for intrepid until intrepid launches
[22:48] <superm1> (dont use hardy builds on intrepid)
[22:49] <henrik_> okej I was reading about the lanch of your alpha4 project
[22:49] <henrik_> and thaught it was safe to use
[22:49] <henrik_> with the launchpad added
[22:50] <henrik_> hardy builds has been working fine untill now
[22:52] <henrik_> I know your the god of weekly can you please have  one fixed with dependencies?
[22:53] <henrik_> I promise to remove it from my sources as soon as I got it running.
[22:58] <henrik_> very easy to missunderstand when it reads "This PPA will not contain updated MythTV packages (that is what the weekly builds repo is for)"
[22:58] <foxbuntu> henrik_, whats confusing about that?
[23:00] <henrik_> I would presume that the weekly would work for the 8.10 version.
[23:01] <foxbuntu> im not sure if there is a weekly PPA for intrepid yet
[23:02] <henrik_> no it's not so from that statement I thaught I was able to use the weeklys from 8.04 with the addition from lanchpad
[23:03] <henrik_> and it has been working fine untill this depend was broken today or yesterday
[23:03] <foxbuntu> henrik_, yeah, the weekly builds are for hardy
[23:04] <foxbuntu> for the most part it would work, but now that the release of intrepid is closing in there will be a seperation in the PPA
[23:04] <henrik_> Yes I know that but from the context I reconed it was good to go with 8.10 as loong as you also had the launchpad enabled
[23:05] <henrik_> So what I'm looking for now is a quick fix where the depend is corrected so I can get back on my feet agan, and then remove the reps untill the real ones is released
[23:07] <foxbuntu> henrik_, ok what is broken?
[23:07] <foxbuntu> ok*
[23:07] <henrik_> mythtv-frontend: dependent of: liblame0 (>= 3.97) but kan not be installed
 sudo apt-get install liblame0
 then it says the package has been outdated and replaced by libmp3lame0, and this package is installed
[23:08] <foxbuntu> ok
[23:10] <henrik_> so by making the libmp3lame0 "ok" as replacement of the old liblame0 everything would problebly be fine
[23:10] <foxbuntu> henrik_, easiest thing I can think of, remove mythtv-frontend, remove the repos, update apt, reinstall mythtv-frontend with the proper depends
[23:11] <foxbuntu> it should only be a short while before the intrepid PPA is online
[23:12] <foxbuntu> then you can re-enable it  and begin using -fixes again
[23:12] <henrik_> even if I remove the source
[23:12] <henrik_> it still wont..
[23:12] <foxbuntu> it still wont what?
[23:13] <foxbuntu> sudo apt-get remove --purge mythtv-frontend
[23:13] <henrik_> well it's not installed..
[23:14] <henrik_> but now I get other problems.. like
[23:14] <henrik_>   mythtv-frontend: Beroende av: mythtv-common (= 0.21.0+fixes18379-0ubuntu1) men 0.21.0+fixes18528-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu1 kommer att installeras
[23:14] <henrik_> beroende av=dependent of
[23:15] <foxbuntu> did you remove the PPA and sudo apt-get update?
[23:16] <henrik_> yes
[23:17] <randyist> i am struggling with Mythbuntu. i need a lot of help with the remote
[23:17] <randyist> any remote experts in the house?
[23:17] <foxbuntu> randyist, I wrote allot of the remote support custom to Mythbuntu
[23:17] <randyist> oh boy.
[23:18] <randyist> Well.. i can boot a computer.. i'm not quite that advance. lol
[23:18] <randyist> but that's cool
[23:18] <randyist> i have a Hauppauge PVR 150
[23:18] <randyist> the remote isn't responding at all. .. I have it plugged firmly into the PCI card
[23:18] <randyist> the IR cables i mean
[23:19] <randyist> now whenever I go back to the MythBuntu Control Centre and try to reconfigure the remote..it says .. "Configuiring  Transmitter.." and it freezes about 3/4 the way on the progress bar
[23:20] <foxbuntu> randyist, ok I am working with henrik_ atm, however if you hang around I will try to give you some help
[23:20] <randyist> no problemo
[23:20] <randyist> thanks
[23:21] <henrik_> foxbuntu, do you have any idea when the updates will be done for 8.10?
[23:21] <foxbuntu> henrik_, not for sure, some near the release of Intrepid
[23:21] <henrik_> I presume downgrading will not be easy at the moment for me?
[23:21] <henrik_> so about a month?
[23:21] <foxbuntu> henrik_, yeah, a month would be a good guess
[23:22] <henrik_> are you also doing the weeklys right now?
[23:22] <henrik_> or is it superm1 ?
[23:22] <foxbuntu> henrik_, I am not, Im not sure who is atm
[23:22] <henrik_> Do you thing it would be possible to just correct this dependency..
[23:22] <henrik_> as a quick fix?
[23:23] <superm1> henrik_, post a diff on a bug and we can see about fixing it
[23:23] <henrik_> Would you please be so kind and update your information on mythbuntu website?
[23:23] <henrik_> I dont think I'm the only one who has read that wrong
[23:24] <foxbuntu> henrik_, what in particular, I can do that
[23:25] <henrik_> This PPA will not contain updated MythTV packages (that is what the weekly builds repo is for), but instead will contain new and updated packages for programs such as MythExport, MythNetTv, and MythVideo-Bulk-Updater. Information on this PPA is located
[23:25] <henrik_> in this part please specify that no weeklys will be available untill release of 8.10
[23:26] <henrik_> this text about that is what the weekly blds repo is for got me to enable them..
[23:26] <henrik_> and this is staed for the 8.10 alpha..
[23:28] <foxbuntu> henrik_, can you point me to where you pulled that from, I have read over the weekly builds page like 3 times
[23:28] <henrik_> http://www.mythbuntu.org/8.10/alpha6
[23:30] <henrik_> and http://www.mythbuntu.org/8.10/beta
[23:30] <directhex> beware the intel gigabits of march!
[23:32] <foxbuntu> henrik_, fixed, take a look
[23:34] <henrik_> foxbuntu, have you saved? I can't see any diffrence. And yes I have reloaded ;)
[23:38] <foxbuntu> ctrl+shift+ click refresh
[23:44] <foxbuntu> henrik_, ^
[23:44] <henrik_> yes
[23:45] <foxbuntu> henrik_, well clear your cache or something, its live
[23:46] <foxbuntu>  * We are introducing a testing PPA. This PPA will contain software that is either not in the repositories, or is a more current version that what is in the repositories. This PPA will not contain updated MythTV packages, but instead will contain new and updated packages for programs such as MythExport, MythNetTv, and MythVideo-Bulk-Updater. Information on this PPA is located here
[23:46] <foxbuntu> For 8.10 Users, the Weekly builds PPA will be released near the release of Intrepid. The weekly builds PPA maintained by Mythbuntu is for 8.04 users only.
[23:47] <henrik_> good!
[23:47] <henrik_> and please if you can have some just make one for 8.10 so I can have this sucker up and running...
[23:50] <foxbuntu> randyist, run mcc from terminal so we can try to capture exactly what it is doing when it stops
[23:51] <henrik_> foxbuntu, thx for your help! I'm off to bed..
[23:53] <randyist> how is mythbuntu different from Linux MCE ?
[23:53] <foxbuntu> randyist, well for starters... it works ;)
[23:53] <randyist> lol
[23:53] <foxbuntu> lol
[23:53] <foxbuntu> j/k
[23:53] <randyist> oh. I haven't tried MCE
[23:54] <foxbuntu> im not sure its differences, but Mythbuntu is built for the common user
[23:54] <randyist> cool. i like its interface.. I just couldn't get the remote working. .i turned the computer off now.. lol
[23:55] <foxbuntu> oh
[23:55] <randyist> it was completely froze...well.. the mythbuntu program was
[23:56] <tgm4883_laptop> LinuxMCE isn't a mythtv system.  It's a home automation system with mythtv added
[23:56] <tgm4883_laptop> and no, it doesn't work
[23:56] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, well I was trying to be less mean about it :)
[23:56] <tgm4883_laptop> sorry
[23:56] <tgm4883_laptop> and TBH, no, it doesn't work
[23:57] <tgm4883_laptop> better?
[23:57] <foxbuntu> haha
[23:57] <foxbuntu> well I know that
[23:58] <randyist> where are you guys from?. . i'm in Michigan, USA
[23:58] <foxbuntu> all over
[23:58] <randyist> oh
[23:59] <foxbuntu> the dev team is mostly in the US, but some in the UK and Germany
[23:59] <randyist> oh that's neat.
[23:59] <muffi1> canada here
[23:59] <foxbuntu> according to web statistics we have had visitors to the site and downloads from nearly every country on the planet