[21:39] <jose> hey guys, anyone available to help with summaries? :)
[21:53] <scott_ev> howdie, am I too late or are there summaries left?  Wait, I can answer that for myself by looking
[21:55] <jose> scott_ev: there are some left :)
[21:55] <scott_ev> jose: thanks
[21:56] <jose> to you!
[21:58] <scott_ev> don't thank me yet.  I'm still trying to feel well enough to do some work
[22:01] <jose> scott_ev: if you're sick I prefer you to take some rest, there's always next week :)
[22:05] <scott_ev> jose: OK.  It happens quite often and I do what i can when I can.  I won't work on it if/when I feel particularily aweful
[22:05] <jose> :)


[12:35] <mup> Bug #2006598 changed: UI: Storage tag not showing in the filter <ui> <MAAS:Won't Fix> <maas-ui:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2006598>
[12:38] <mup> Bug #2006598 opened: UI: Storage tag not showing in the filter <ui> <MAAS:Won't Fix> <maas-ui:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2006598>
[12:41] <mup> Bug #2006598 changed: UI: Storage tag not showing in the filter <ui> <MAAS:Won't Fix> <maas-ui:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2006598>
[12:47] <mup> Bug #2006598 opened: UI: Storage tag not showing in the filter <ui> <MAAS:Won't Fix> <maas-ui:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2006598>
[12:53] <mup> Bug #2006598 changed: UI: Storage tag not showing in the filter <ui> <MAAS:Won't Fix> <maas-ui:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2006598>
[14:35] <mup> Bug #2023786 opened: esxi deployment do not get networking and host configuration post deployment <cpe-onsite> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2023786>
[15:38] <mup> Bug #2023792 opened: Sometimes DNS record got deleted after creation <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2023792>


[00:27] <kRush> looks like not a lot is changing with the next version
[00:40] <flyback> how the canuck do you change sound cards
[00:40]  * flyback pay just rm -rf the kernel module
[00:45] <dna6a> what is the best editor for editing a sh file?
[00:46] <dna6a> i have abiword and mousepad as default options
[00:46] <dna6a> is there an app called hexeditor built into xubuntu? or is that a package to install?
[00:46] <Unit193> Err, abiword?  Wouldn't recommend that, mousepad, vim, nano, or something like that would be much better.
[00:47] <dna6a> ty
[00:47] <Unit193> You can install a hexeditor, wxhexeditor isn't bad.
[01:05] <David-A> dna6a: gedit and kate supports syntax coloring for lots of languages, including shell scripts. iirc mouspad and leafpad don't. kate has some dependencies with kde or qt.
[01:06] <Unit193> David-A: mousepad does, leafie doesn't.
[01:07] <David-A> dna6a: nano also supports syntax coloring, but it is quite buggy. the coloring that is. nano without syntax coloring is fine if you want something simple.
[01:08] <David-A> Unit193: ok, sorry, my info is outdated then
[01:09] <Unit193> No problem, it's not bad.
[01:24] <dna6a> is there a sudo reboot that i can force that doesnt load any startup scripts?
[01:32] <cubed_root> kate is a great editor
[01:38] <cubed_root> dna6a, sudo shutdown -r now
[01:43] <dna6a> ty
[01:44] <dna6a> that will just temp disable startups correct?
[01:44] <dna6a> i dont want it to permanently disable the startupsn just once for a clean reboot with vanilla ubuntu running
[01:58] <David-A> dna6a: what startups? do you want some of the services/daemons not to start automatically?
[01:59] <m1chael> i was messing with hooking a TV to my xubuntu 13.10, and started changing resolutions around, and screwed up. now i can't boot in to xubuntu. once i get to the desktop after logging in, screen turns black, mouse pointer disappears, a majority of things turn black, etc.. what can i do? ;/
[01:59] <m1chael> right now i am in windows
[02:19] <cubed_root> i'm new to linux myself michael, but i'm wondering if xubuntu has an "extend monitors" mode that you're dropping into
[02:19] <cubed_root> this happens to my windows laptop all the time
[02:19] <cubed_root> so i remove an external monitor but just seen an empty desktop because the "main" screen is pointing to a monitor that isn't connected any more
[02:21] <David-A> m1chael: do you have a failsafe option, in a session menu, before you login?
[02:22] <m1chael> David-A, i thought I did, but it doesn't seem to be working
[02:24] <m1chael> i'm going to try a few things. i'll be back
[02:34] <dna6a> i have a sh file that loads on boot, I didnt set this system up, but am trying to find where to find where it is? I have changed the sh but didnt have permission to save it, so if i can change the loading sh file to the new one I made that would be awesome
[02:36] <Poisoned_Dragon> sudo your-txteditor file.sh
[02:37] <Poisoned_Dragon> if you want your file browser to have privileges, sudo thunar.
[02:38] <Poisoned_Dragon> Then you can open files, with their associated programs with privilege automatically.
[02:40] <dna6a> Poisoned_Dragon sorry man this is my first linux experience
[02:40] <dna6a> im using mousepad to edit the sh file
[02:40] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh, those are terminal commands
[02:40] <dna6a> is there a default admin/root login?
[02:40] <Poisoned_Dragon> so in terminal it would be, sudo mousepad /path/to/file
[02:41] <dna6a> like if i log back in as root i can save the sh file?
[02:41] <Poisoned_Dragon> no... here. press Alt+F2
[02:42] <Poisoned_Dragon> when you get the run box, type: xfce4-terminal
[02:42] <Poisoned_Dragon> did you get a terminal box yet?
[02:43] <dna6a> yep
[02:44] <Poisoned_Dragon> do you just want to edit the file?
[02:44] <dna6a> yeah its in the home dir
[02:45] <dna6a> its called miner_launcher.sh
[02:45] <Poisoned_Dragon> well, you can edit your own files, in your home directory, without root privilege. Are you trying to save that file somewhere else?
[02:45] <dna6a> no im trying to save it where it was but i dont have permission
[02:46] <dna6a> where it is*
[02:46] <Poisoned_Dragon> huh... odd.
[02:46] <dna6a> is it because its running or something I dont have permission?
[02:46] <dna6a> or is it a user access issue?
[02:46] <Poisoned_Dragon> usually, everything in your home directory is your's to create or destroy.
[02:47] <Poisoned_Dragon> So, unless the file was made with root privilege in the first place, I'm surprised you can't edit it without privilege.
[02:47] <m1chael> hey guys. i was here a few moments ago complaining about my display. i fixed it by deleting displays.xml in my user directory
[02:47] <Poisoned_Dragon> Anyhow.... in terminal, type sudo mousepad /path/to/your/file.sh
[02:48] <dna6a> is there a default user/pw for root access? the guy I bought it off only gave me the one login and there are no other users in user/groups
[02:48] <Poisoned_Dragon> awesome, m1chael
[02:48] <m1chael> yeah, my night isn't ruined after all :)
[02:48] <dna6a> so 'sudo mousepad /home/username/editthis.sh'
[02:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> Yes, dna6a. like that. it''s ask for your password.
[02:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> *it'll
[02:49] <dna6a> ok ty will try now
[02:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> dna6a, reminder. in terminal, you won't see your password being typed. it's a security feature.
[02:50] <Poisoned_Dragon> Or rather, "security feature". It's debatable.
[02:53] <dna6a> ok it launched the file but its empty?
[02:53] <dna6a> with a warning sign in red
[02:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> Was it always empty?
[02:54] <dna6a> no
[02:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> the sign in red is to warn you that you're editing the file as root
[02:55] <dna6a> how do i flip through all open windows like alt tab in windows?
[02:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> Then you must have mucked up the file location. Just close it and verify
[02:55] <dna6a> maybe I left the file open thus why its empty?
[02:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> alr+tab
[02:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> No, it would still be populated
[02:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> Unless, where it is opened, it's not saved.
[02:56] <krytarik> !gksudo | Poisoned_Dragon, dna6a
[02:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> I'll keep that in mind, given the conversation. Personally, it hasn't bitten me on the hindquarters yet.
[02:57] <dna6a> fml i pointed it to the wrong sh i put . instead of _ the resolution on this 'tv' monitor isnt crystal clear :P
[02:57] <dna6a> i think im winning thi
[02:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> Ah, there you go
[02:59] <dna6a> ok :)
[02:59] <dna6a> rebooting npw
[02:59] <dna6a> fingers crossed
[02:59]  * Poisoned_Dragon is crossing fingers
[03:01] <dna6a> i dont understand if I am logged in as the only user on system, i should have full admin though
[03:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> No no... that's by design.
[03:03] <dna6a> im getting something new pop up?
[03:03] <dna6a> unlock.login jeyring
[03:03] <dna6a> keyring
[03:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> ?
[03:04] <dna6a> enter password to unlock your login keyring
[03:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> That one might be outside my level of expertise.
[03:04] <dna6a> the login keyring did not get unlocked when you logged into your computer
[03:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> It should be your login password, I hope.
[03:04] <dna6a> yeah but will this occur everytime?
[03:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> I don't remember. I haven't had it happen to me in a long time.
[03:05] <dna6a> ok sweet
[04:59] <StrangeRat> hello
[06:34] <akis> hi all. suddenly my multiflash reader cannot read sd cards although it can read usb sticks. the hub works perfectly when i plugged it to another xubuntu 12.04 notebook, but it doesn't respond under this xubuntu 12.04 system. lsusb gives : Bus 001 Device 051: ID 058f:6254 Alcor Micro Corp. USB Hub & Bus 001 Device 052: ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp. Multi Flash Reader. Any idea about this issue?
[06:48] <akis1> hi all. suddenly my multiflash reader cannot read sd cards although it can read usb sticks. the hub works perfectly when i plugged it to another xubuntu 12.04 notebook, but it doesn't respond under this xubuntu 12.04 system. lsusb gives : Bus 001 Device 051: ID 058f:6254 Alcor Micro Corp. USB Hub & Bus 001 Device 052: ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp. Multi Flash Reader. Any idea about this issue?
[06:49] <akis1> solved. it was hidden under dolphin!
[07:18] <spark_> hello everyone i just installed xubuntu on my old lenovo thinkpad X200 and the sound card dosent seams to be picked up  by alsa ... ubuntu does pick it up could it be just alsa not working propely ?
[07:21] <spark_> also my firefox does crash on launch
[09:07] <xubuntu406> hello
[09:07] <cfhowlett> xubuntu406, greetings
[09:07] <xubuntu406> i am a new user
[09:07] <xubuntu406> of xubunto
[09:07] <cfhowlett> great.  what's your issue?
[09:08] <xubuntu406> i had just downloaded it
[09:08] <xubuntu406> fadi
[09:08] <xubuntu406> i had dual boot with windows xp now using wubi
[09:09] <xubuntu406> i have 10 GB, i think they are just full
[09:10] <cfhowlett> wubi is no longer supported.  your options are a proper dual boot or virtualization - virtualbox works
[09:10] <xubuntu406> how could i increase the GB on Xubuntu and decrease it on Windows?
[09:10] <baizon> xubuntu406: gparted
[09:10] <xubuntu406> Where to open the gparted
[09:11] <cfhowlett> baizon, with wubi?  nope.
[09:11] <elfy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeWubiDisk
[09:11] <cub> The decreasing part on Windows is quite tedious work.
[09:11] <baizon> cfhowlett: run from livecd and do it then?
[09:12] <elfy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeandDuplicateWubiDisk
[09:12] <cfhowlett> baizon, ask someone who still runs wubi - it's unsupported so I don't touch it
[09:12] <xubuntu406> And if i would like to delete the boot on Windows after
[09:12] <xubuntu406> i would like just have the boot to Xubuntu only after
[09:13] <cfhowlett> xubuntu406, wait, you want xubuntu only?  no windows at all?
[09:13] <elfy> xubuntu406: are you saying that you want to actually remove windows?
[09:13] <xubuntu406> yes but i still have some documents on it i will transfer them with the usb stick
[09:15] <xubuntu406> i would like first to have more GB and still dual booting till i will transfer all the document to the Xubuntu and after i would like just to have one boot only to Linux Xubuntu
[09:15] <xubuntu406> Cause now i find it much more cool than the Xp i am having
[09:16] <xubuntu406> and there will be no support on it after
[09:16] <xubuntu406> and i have the 12.04 LTS Version i think till 2015 i may have support on it
[09:17] <cfhowlett> !lts
[09:17] <xubuntu406> but i hadnot used Linux before
[09:20] <elfy> xubuntu406: well - you can resize wubi disk - look at the 2 wiki's I linked, then you can install xubuntu properly - let it do it's resize thing - then you will have a real install AND windows AND the wubi one
[09:20] <elfy> then do your're backups - then when you're ready you can just remove the windows partition
[09:20] <xubuntu406> So if i had to delate Windows and having one boot i think it would not be so easy as i saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkh-2tYt1g4
[09:21] <elfy> removing windows is as simple as booting the xubuntu live and then telling it to use the whole disk - it will do that
[09:33] <xubuntu406> can i get from the Xubuntu boot to Windows boot to transfer the documents to it without using the USB Stick
[09:34] <elfy> not that I know of - the wubi install is not a partition - it's just a file
[09:34] <xubuntu406> ok
[09:57] <LonelyDanbo> I was told to get proprietary graphics drivers: software center, edit, software sources, additional drivers tab, install the latest nvidia driver
[09:57] <LonelyDanbo> but I don't know how to identify the latest proprietary nvidia drivers
[09:58] <LonelyDanbo> NVidia binary X.Org driver ('current' driver) ?
[10:02] <LonelyDanbo> I've been told it is.
[11:35] <arrith> dangit danbo
[11:35] <arrith> nvidia-current odoyle rules
[11:37] <starrats> morning arrith
[11:44] <xusr78> Hi all. I'm going to disable the graphical login manager according to http://myridia.com/dev_posts/view/260
[11:45] <xusr78> What is a proper way starting XFCE from command line after login? startxfce4 or gdm start?
[12:09] <xusr78> I did so, now when I run startxfce4, a complete diffeneny/out of the box profile is loaded
[12:09] <xusr78> How to load the existing one already present?
[12:50] <superprower> hi all, i have a problem. When i start the pc and load xubuntu, some apps who doesn't checked in autostart starts automatic, like abiword or chrome. Is there solution to this?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> superprower, sounds like you've got "remember session" set to yes.
[12:53] <superprower> cfhowlett, but i doesn't use abiword, lol. Anyway, where to disable it?
[15:31] <jonzen> is there a way to force wallpaper to load before autostart programs 14.04 beta1
[15:32] <cfhowlett> !trusty|jonzen,
[15:32] <jonzen> ty
[16:29] <m1chael> i'm on ubuntu, i'm sshing in to one server, and then sshing in to another server. my nano colors are dark with the syntax highlighting,etc. how can i make it all white? it's killing my eyes
[17:05] <baizon> m1chael: change the color there?
[17:05] <baizon> *theme
[17:06] <baizon> m1chael: or you can try putty :)
[17:20] <koegs> or change the color theme of the terminal
[17:21] <baizon> koegs: was my first suggestion :P
[17:22] <koegs> baizon: was not able to compute "change the color there"
[17:22] <baizon> koegs: next line ;)
[17:49] <Jake2> Loaded 12.04 on old laptop. Broadcom BCM4306/3 wifi chip. installed firmware-b43-installer. Still no wifi. Help?
[17:55] <Jake2> chirp chirp.  later.
[17:56] <knome> ...install firmware-b43legacy-installer.
[17:57] <robben> Hello.
[17:58] <robben> I'm having issues getting my computer to boot Linux; can anyone help?
[18:43] <ball> I have vnc4server installed but it doesn't seem to interpret the tab key correctly, which is a bit annoying. I suppose I should see what keycodes it's getting when I hit tab.
[18:43] <Unit193> xev can do that, though I can tell you remmina+x11vnc takes the tab key.
[18:45] <ball> I don't know what a remmina is.
[18:45] <Unit193> VNC viewing application.
[18:47] <ball> looks like it got keys: 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0...
[18:47] <ball> Ctrl+I works as you'd expect.
[18:48] <ball> ...and the same viewer works with VNC servers on other operating systems, so perhaps it's a Linux thing.
[18:48] <ball> Does Tab mean something special in Linux?
[18:50] <d2kalos> español?
[18:51] <ball> d2kalos didn't wait very long for a response.
[18:52] <Unit193> ball: Sometimes you have to tell the viewing application to take over the keyboard, but that's the only thing I can think of.
[18:53] <flux242> !ubottu es|d2kalos
[18:53] <xubuntu765> ive just installed xubuntu 12.04lts for my gpu 7870xt i can choose the normal one, the experiemental beta or the post-release one??? which is the good one?
[18:53] <flux242> !es ubottu|d2kalos
[18:54] <ball> Unit193: I don't believe the issue is at the viewer end.
[18:54] <ball> (because it works with other VNC servers).
[18:54] <flux242> grr, can never remember ubottu syntax
[18:54] <Unit193> flux242: He's long gone.
[18:56] <flux242> but the syntax is still there
[18:56] <Unit193> !foo | target
[18:57] <ball> !es | ball
[18:57] <ball> Hey, it works! :-)
[18:59] <Unit193> ball: And right, that'd make sense of course.  Never used that server, so can't really (attempt to) help.
[19:01] <ball> On Xubuntu, how do I find out who a package maintainer is? I could feed back my observation to help with his or her future releases.
[19:02] <Unit193> ubuntu-bug package  is how you'd file bugs, but   apt-cache showsrc  will show who the maintainer is (Debian and Ubuntu.)  but there isn't really an Ubuntu maintainer.
[19:03] <ball> Great, thanks!
[19:06] <flux242> ball: check launchpad.net too for that package
[19:08] <Unit193> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vnc4 - https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=no&src=vnc4
[19:18] <ball> I emailed the package maintainer. Hopefully that wasn't inappropriate.
[19:19] <ball> I didn't ask him or her to do anything, just fed it back as an observation.
[19:19] <Noskcaj> ball, Which package?
[19:19] <ball> Noskaj: vnc4server
[19:19] <Unit193> (Tagged help in Debian)
[19:21] <ball> Unit193: I don't know what that means.
[20:30] <OhSnapitsMikel> Hello there i just came across a dell latitude d800 laying around would xubuntu be a decent distribution for a labtop??
[20:30] <OhSnapitsMikel> or would something lighter like lubuntu be better?
[20:32] <bekks> Both will be ok.
[20:33] <OhSnapitsMikel> cool thanks!
[20:33] <OhSnapitsMikel> yeah windows xp is still on this and that is going to be losing support soon if i am not mistaken
[20:34] <Unit193> OhSnapitsMikel: You're right.  Which one is that exactly?  Does it have PAE support?  If not, you'll have to wait for 14.04.
[20:35] <bekks> Unit193: 14.04 will have non-PAE support again? Even 12.04 doesnt.
[20:36] <OhSnapitsMikel> Sorry kind of new to the linux crowd  what is PAE?
[20:36] <Unit193> bekks: No, but Pentium M "has" PAE, just doesn't advertise.  The kernel in 14.04 can use a boot option to ignore the need for that flag on a Pentium M device.  (Lucky for me, I have a late model Pentium that fully supports it.)
[20:37] <Unit193> bekks: Unknown how well it works, but it'll boot.
[20:37] <OhSnapitsMikel> Its worth the try this old laptop has just been laying around doing nothing
[20:39] <Unit193> PAE allows a 32bit operating system to use more than 4G of ram.  The CPU needs to support this.
[20:39] <OhSnapitsMikel> Intel Pentium M Processor 1.70GHz
[20:39] <OhSnapitsMikel> ah ok i see
[20:40] <Unit193> The early Pentium M's didn't advertise they had this ability, could be because it wasn't enabled, or it didn't fully work, or something else.
[20:41] <OhSnapitsMikel> booting with a image on dvd would probably be safer than trying with a usb??
[20:41] <OhSnapitsMikel> i have mostly played with linux through virtual box/vmware
[20:42] <OhSnapitsMikel> this is the first machine i can devote to maybe screwing up ;) lol
[20:42] <Unit193> I like USB myself.
[20:43] <OhSnapitsMikel> so you just slap the disc image file on a usb then and plug it in and boot from there?
[20:43] <OhSnapitsMikel> does the usb have to be in a certian format??
[20:44] <Unit193> I'd use http://linuxliveusb.com/ from windows.
[20:44] <OhSnapitsMikel> oh ok cool
[20:45] <OhSnapitsMikel> thanks
[20:47] <OhSnapitsMikelde> switched over to my desktop while i try and install on the laptop
[21:24] <flux242> OhSnapitsMikel: I'd wait for the 14.04 lts image. Second I'd not recommend to use the default installation iso image
[21:25] <OhSnapitsMikel> ah ok why is that?
[21:25] <OhSnapitsMikel> is that a long ways out?
[21:26] <flux242> should be out in april
[21:26] <OhSnapitsMikel> i was going to go with 32 bit intel install
[21:26] <OhSnapitsMikel> what was the concern with going this route?
[21:26] <flux242> the default image is bloated
[21:27] <flux242> not good for an old computer
[21:27] <OhSnapitsMikel> oh just a lot of clean up on how the smooth the syustem runs then?
[21:28] <flux242> you may read this first http://flux242.blogspot.de/2013/11/minimal-xubuntu-1310-desktop.html
[21:35] <OhSnapitsMikel> ah ok well thanks for all the help :) gotta go though
[21:38] <StrangeRat> hey guys i have a bash script i am trying to run this bash       bash openspades_install.bash
[21:38] <StrangeRat> but when i do it says this openspades_install.bash: No such file or directory
[21:48] <nono_> i need help!!
[21:48] <nono_> :)
[21:53] <bekks> !help | nono_
[22:09] <knoips> hello, i have a big problem, i was using xubuntu 12.04 and have installed python 3.3 today, after it said me, pygame was not found, i look up for the problem and thought it was because on the system alreadz pzthon 2,7 was installed... so i uninstalled with the packet center pythen 2.7. jjust right now i restart my system and it wont start with this distro anymore. right now i am using xubuntu 12.4 lie
[22:09] <knoips> live
[22:10] <knoips> it hang on a while bootin at `loading clock` or something else
[22:11] <knoips> is there a possibilitz to rescue the distro
[22:14] <knoips> is there a tool to recover at least the files on the system with the live distro
[22:15] <knoips> i have here a big hdd so i would store all files there and after it get a new distro on the pc
[22:17] <not_found> yes it is possible to mount harddrives in a live session and copy data from one to the other
[22:19] <knoips> how_
[22:19] <holstein> a file manager will let you copy files from one drive to another.. any live CD will have a file manager
[22:19] <holstein> knoips: you open the source and destination and copy what you like
[22:20] <not_found> I am not sure if they will show-up in Thunar by default (I know in Ubunutu you can use the disk utility to mount them)
[22:20] <sydney__> what program would i use to write a game that is similar to Supertux?
[22:20] <knoips> when i now open the home folder there is only the xubuntu user name
[22:20] <sydney__> what program would i use to write a game that is similar to Supertux?
[22:20] <holstein> sydney__: please relax, and dont cross post, or repeat
[22:21] <holstein> sydney__: most folks just use a text editor to write
[22:21] <holstein> knoips: the home folder is just that.. the home folder of the live user
[22:21] <holstein> knoips: you will want to open the source, the place where your files are, and the destination, the driver you want to copy to, and copy
[22:21] <sydney__> Sorry about that,I didnt mean to be pushy.
[22:22] <not_found> knoips: ask ubuntu has some pictures (makes it easier to explain) - http://askubuntu.com/questions/190239/how-to-access-hard-drive-files-from-livecd
[22:24] <knoips> ah... first think then type... i got it... i was in the wrong partition. oh man.. ok i will back all stuff up and install the distro new.. tomorrow
[22:24] <knoips> thank all
[22:26] <StrangeRat> hello :)
[22:29] <xubuntu917> hola
[22:29] <StrangeRat> how do i run a bash script
[22:30] <StrangeRat> i downloaded it and put it is in downloads folder
[22:30] <xubuntu917> holaaaaaaaaaa
[22:30] <xubuntu917> hola alguien que me quiera responder una pregunta
[22:30] <xubuntu917> que tengo
[22:30] <xubuntu917> hi
[22:30] <holstein> StrangeRat: "it" should have directions... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting
[22:31] <StrangeRat> oh i am sorry i am being vague
[22:31] <xubuntu917> spanish ?
[22:31] <holstein> StrangeRat: specifically https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting#Scripting
[22:31] <holstein> !es | xubuntu917
[22:31] <StrangeRat> it is a script that my friend on here arrith wrote for installing a game
[22:32] <StrangeRat> ill look at the link
[22:32] <holstein> StrangeRat: ask your friend what you are supposed to do with it.. or, look at the information i linked about running bash scripts
[22:33] <StrangeRat> i am looking at what you sent me now thank you he told me to download the script ==> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a2fb9251b017edab1ba5
[22:34] <StrangeRat> and then run it but im not getting any response from the terminal
[22:34] <StrangeRat> i will pastebin it
[22:35] <xubuntu917> my question, I have a laptop hard drive 500 gb 1 partitions 300 with windows 8.1 pro 64 bits, another partition data backup and more system and 60 gb free, I installed xubuntu and I was saying in the installation that had me detected windows 8 and that if I wanted to have both operating systems and you say yes and I'm installing missing about 5 minutes to finish my question is: I will have the two systems? where the system was i
[22:37] <xubuntu618> my question, I have a laptop hard drive 500 gb 1 partitions 300 with windows 8.1 pro 64 bits, another partition data backup and more system and 60 gb free, I installed xubuntu and I was saying in the installation that had me detected windows 8 and that if I wanted to have both operating systems and you say yes and I'm installing missing about 5 minutes to finish my question is: I will have the two systems? where the system was i
[22:42] <xubuntu017> I do say it is a might risky to run an irc client as root during an o/s install don't ya think? :P


[03:30] <sky> is there a /var/mail directory in 16.04?
[03:31] <Javezim> Hey All, anyone had issues with Samba 4.3.11-Ubuntu on Ubuntu Server 14.04.4 and being able to Read/Write Data from Windows Clients? ""An Unexpected Network Error has occurred""
[03:31] <Javezim> log.smbd - http://paste.ubuntu.com/23336705/, log.<HOSTNAME> seeing a tonne of - http://paste.ubuntu.com/23336648/
[03:36] <sky> are /var/mail and /var/spool/mail somehow linked?
[03:37] <sky> i deleted a file in var/mail and the same file gets rmed from /var/spool/mail. but i cant tell that there is a symlink or anything
[03:38] <sky> oh, I fuound it
[03:38] <sky> looks like /var/spool/mail is a symlink to /var/mail
[04:22] <lucas_ai> How can I have execute permissions on my files in an NTFS drive? Can't I use it as my /home ?
[06:01] <Gorian> do you guys prefer to run LTS or non-LTS for your servers/
[06:17] <hateball> Gorian: I only use LTS, but it is personal preference really. Depending if you *need* newer packages.
[06:22] <Gorian> hmm.. okay
[06:27] <hateball> Gorian: and depending on your scale of course
[06:27] <hateball> upgrading every 6-9 months can be a headache
[06:27] <Gorian> that's a good point
[09:44] <maxagaz> Hi
[09:45] <maxagaz> my user is in the group www-data, ownership of /var/www/html is www-data:www-data, why I don't have permission to execute "touch myfile.txt" in this directory ?
[09:46] <sarnold> what are the permissions on /var/www/html?
[09:47] <maxagaz> sorry, my bad, chmod g+w fixed it
[09:48] <sarnold> :)
[09:50] <sarnold> maxagaz: investigate the bsdgroups mount option; with that you can setgid on the directory, and all new files/directories in a setgid directory will get the group ownership set correctly
[13:45] <jamespage> ddellav, coreycb`: creating stable/newton branches in all git repos now
[13:45] <coreycb`> jamespage, sounds good
[13:47] <coreycb`> jamespage, I have a pull-uca-source script working.  think I should push this to ubuntu-dev-tools?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23338714/
[13:50] <jamespage> coreycb`, I don't see why not
[13:51] <coreycb`> jamespage, ok doing that now then
[14:00] <coreycb> jamespage, zul, ddellav: I pushed pull-uca-source to ubuntu-dev-tools:  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/ubuntu-dev-tools/trunk/revision/1451
[14:00] <ddellav> coreycb nice
[14:00] <zul> coreycb: sweet
[16:31] <powersj> rbasak: still around?
[16:34] <rbasak> powersj: o/
[16:34] <powersj> rbasak: there are 4 heimdal bugs all reporting install failures because of version mismatches.
[16:34] <powersj> thoughts on adding to backlog?
[16:35] <rbasak> Are they using yakkety-proposed by any chance?
[16:35] <powersj> all four have the tag "package-from-proposed"
[16:35] <rbasak> Dupe of bug 1617963?
[16:36] <rbasak> Looks like yakkety-proposed has not yet been cleared for SRUs.
[16:36] <rbasak> So using yakkety-proposed is currently still wrong.
[16:36] <rbasak> Though that's interesting, because I wonder if that's a problem for users?
[16:37]  * rbasak asked in #ubuntu-devel
[16:39] <powersj> rbasak: looks like the version each is trying to install is in fact the one from proposed.
[17:00] <zul> coreycb: ping
[17:12] <jamespage> zul, coreycb: any reason why we can't make the pylxd integration tests run in autopkg test
[17:13] <zul> jamespage: no
[17:13] <zul> jamespage: ill open up a bug to remind me
[17:14] <zul> jamespage: #1634207
[18:03] <basilAB> Noticed 4.4.0-43 kernel has added in xenial-updates on 10-14-2016. But the same didn't get added in trusty-updates. Does anyone know whether it is expected?
[18:46] <RoyK> basilAB: new kernels are added to the repos, but not installed automatically. If you (really) need the new kernel with its new features (read the changelog), just apt-get install it
[18:47] <RoyK> or apt install it, if you prefer the new method
[19:02] <basilAB> RoyK: I was looking at the trusty-updates repo and not seeing the 4.4.0-43.  Still can see only 4.4.0-42.
[19:03] <RoyK> basilAB: oh - I see - possibly some mirrors being out of sync
[19:04] <basilAB> In xenial-updates, I can see the latest though. Yeah, may be a sync problem
[19:05] <basilAB> I am running trusty lxd containers on top of Xenial with 4.4.0-43. To install new packages on trusty, some of dependencies are failing because of this.
[19:09] <tarpman> doesn't look like a mirror sync issue - there's no 4.4.0-43 upload on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-xenial either
[20:42] <dannf> smoser: you still the right person to poke about maas-images? Need a merge to fix arm64/yakkety - https://code.launchpad.net/~dannf/maas-images/xgene-uboot-compressed-images/+merge/308515
[20:46] <smoser> dannf, myself or ltrager
[20:46] <smoser> i am ok with that change, i assume you've tested ?
[20:48] <dannf> smoser: i've built trusty & yakkety images and verified that the image has the correct metadata in each case. i have not pointed a maas server at a custom stream w/ it (maas server w/ those systems is production)
[21:09] <smoser> dannf, merged
[21:10] <dannf> smoser: thx!
[22:20] <drab_> hi, anybody running 14.04 on a proliant DL585?
[22:21] <drab_> this box has s 4 ports nic loadind the e1000 module, but then only one port is recognized per adapter
[22:21] <drab_> 2xquad nics pci-e
[22:21] <drab_> the weird this is that ifconfig -a shows 8 eth
[22:22] <drab_> but then I get no link on any of them
[22:24] <RoyK> drab_: never seen that - I've used ubuntu with quad e1000 cards, and it's worked well
[22:25] <RoyK> drab_: does ethtool tell you anything about link status?
[22:25] <drab_> the weird thing is that in both cases it's the top port that works, the bottom 3 don't on either
[22:25] <drab_> checking that, was trying with mii-tool
[22:28] <drab_> RoyK: it gives the same exact info as the ones that work minus Link detect: no
[22:28] <RoyK> switch config correct?
[22:28] <drab_> snd speed/duplex set to Unknown
[22:29] <mybalzitch> drab_: tried bringing the interface up to see if that does anything?
[22:29] <drab_> yeah I even tested taking out the cable of the nic that works
[22:29] <drab_> and putting into the one that does't, no joy
[22:29] <drab_> so port/cable is not the issue
[22:29] <RoyK> what happens if you do an ifconfig ethx up?
[22:31] <drab_> I need a /dighole alias I guess...
[22:31] <drab_> RoyK: it worked. I don't get it tho
[22:32] <drab_> why wouldnt' the light on the card come up? I don't think I've seen that before
[22:32] <RoyK> drab_: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces, please
[22:32] <drab_> I get tyhat an interface may not come up if you don't configure it, but the link should still show I thought
[22:32] <drab_> even if the itnerface is unconfigured
[22:33] <drab_> RoyK: it only has the two interfaces that were working
[22:33] <drab_> I guess my problem is that I assume link light should have shown regardless
[22:33] <RoyK> ok, add some more ;)
[22:33] <RoyK> will you be trunking some of these?
[22:34] <drab_> nah, gonna run 8 VMs, each one gets one
[22:34] <drab_> well, 7
[22:34] <drab_> one for the host
[22:34] <RoyK> erm - why? wouldn't VLANs be easier?
[22:35] <RoyK> just setup a trunk and VLANs and so on
[22:36] <drab_> RoyK: pardon my ignorance, why is it easier?
[22:37] <RoyK> drab_: it's not necessarily easier, but it's far more flexible and will give you more bandwidth to the switch
[22:37] <RoyK> drab_: and perhaps you learn a thing or two on the way ;)
[22:38] <drab_> I'm always up for learning, but I'd need at least a pointer, right now I'
[22:38] <drab_> m having issues to even see how that'd work
[22:38] <RoyK> given your switch supports VLAN, that is...
[22:39] <drab_> sure, it does, it's hp 2626, I'm using vlans on another that's the same model
[22:41] <drab_> you'd trunk 8 ports and put them on their own vlan and then the VMs would get an ip on that trunked host interface?
[22:43] <RoyK> I'd use 802.1Q between the host and the switch with as many ports as you might need and then allocate VLANs where needed - usually VMs can be on the same VLAN without issues unless there you need to isolate them due to security
[22:44] <RoyK> if the uplink on the switch isn't 10G, or perhaps just a few gigs, it doesn't make sense to use too many links in  the trunk
[22:45] <RoyK> don't put VMs on separate VLANs unless they're on separate IP (v4 or v6, doesn't matter) networks


[12:55] <woz183> help
[12:56] <woz183> using lubuntu 17.04 but dont know how to install amd drivers
[12:57] <woz183> does 17.04 only use open source drivers ?
[15:34] <neoyork> i just installed lubuntu and cannot log to the net
[15:40] <neoyork> any suggetions
[15:43] <neoyork> when i ping yahoo it says service not known
[16:10] <neoyork> :-(
[16:10] <neoyork> hhheeeeeeeelpp
[16:11] <brianeo> where can i find recommended lubuntu installation overview
[16:13] <lynorian> neoyork, are you trying to connect over ethernet or wirelessly?
[16:13] <neoyork> ethernet
[16:13] <brianeo> this chat ethernet
[16:15] <neoyork> compaq presario old
[16:15] <brianeo> dell 380 last boot 2006
[16:16] <brianeo> the box i am writing this on is apple
[16:17] <neoyork> lynorian any ideas
[16:18] <wxl> brianeo: what specific answers are you looking for?
[16:18] <wxl> neoyork: can you pastebin up `ifconfig`?
[16:18] <neoyork> how to connect to the internet
[16:18] <lynorian> well he has no network probably at all
[16:18] <brianeo> i am looking at a snapshot of the setup os screen
[16:18] <wxl> brianeo: i don't think we have a walk through, but ubuntu does. same installer, unless you're using alternate.
[16:19] <neoyork> its not instaqlled ifconfig
[16:19] <wxl> neoyork: well do you have an ip address?
[16:19] <brianeo> reformatting a desktop hard drive is a first, here;
[16:20] <wxl> neoyork: if you don't have ifconfig, you probably have a bad install.
[16:20] <neoyork> i do have ip adress
[16:20] <wxl> don't confuse it with ipconfig (the windows equivalent)
[16:20] <neoyork> how can i properly install
[16:20] <brianeo> hey, i took the day off to go to work, behind a firewall, here
[16:20] <wxl> how do you know you have an ip address?
[16:21] <wxl> you properly install by first making sure you have the valid installation media
[16:21] <wxl> there are two steps:
[16:21] <wxl> 1. check the hashes of the downloaded iso
[16:21] <neoyork> looking at connection information window
[16:21] <wxl> 2. check the media at the grub boot menu
[16:22] <wxl> i would start with that
[16:22] <wxl> i can't imagine why you would have ipconfig
[16:22] <wxl> if you have a bad install all sorts of probelms could be present
[16:24] <wxl> you should have the klibc-utils package
[16:24] <wxl> that's where ifconfig is included in
[16:24] <wxl> along with all sorts of important stuff, like chroot, dd, kill, ls, etc
[16:25] <wxl> oops
[16:25] <wxl> hahahah that's with ipconfig hold on
[16:25] <wxl> sorry it's in net-tools
[16:25] <wxl> i knew that sounded weird!
[16:26] <wxl> that also has route which could be essential to connecting anywhere on the internet, regardless of whether or not you have an ipaddress
[16:27] <neoyork> how would i know i downloaded lubuntu and used an iso
[16:27] <wxl> usually your file manager will tell you
[16:27] <wxl> i assume that what you mean is "how do i know i downloaded the correct file?"
[16:27] <neoyork> yes
[16:27] <wxl> you would follow these instructions:
[16:27] <wxl> !md5
[16:28] <wxl> using this information:
[16:28] <wxl> !hashes
[16:28] <neoyork> this computer only has 1 gig of ram
[16:28] <neoyork> which is why i choose lubuntu
[16:29] <neoyork> ubuntu needs 2gigs
[16:29] <wxl> yes, that's irrelevant
[16:29] <neoyork> the links that ubottu suggested was for ubuntu
[16:30] <wxl> lubuntu uses ubuntu's infrastructure
[16:30] <wxl> the core of lubuntu is ubuntu
[16:30] <wxl> like i said, it's irrelevant
[16:39] <neoyork> donqabron@donqabron-laptop:/media/donqabron/UUI$ md5sum lubuntu-17.04-desktop-i386.iso e98bd5f4b750888bcc77f16df79bc775  lubuntu-17.04-desktop-i386.isodonqabron@donqabron-laptop:/media/donqabron/UUI$ md5sum lubuntu-17.04-desktop-i386.iso e98bd5f4b750888bcc77f16df79bc775  lubuntu-17.04-desktop-i386.iso
[16:40] <wxl> looks good to me
[16:41] <wxl> now you have to boot the install media and at the initial screen do the media check
[16:41] <wxl> it might still be called "check cd for errors"
[16:42] <neoyork> stand by
[16:48] <neoyork> is it check disc for defects
[16:48] <wxl> that one
[16:50] <neoyork> check finished: errors found in 1 file
[16:51] <wxl> so that means it didn't copy right
[16:51] <wxl> so copy the iso to the media again
[16:51] <wxl> might be bad media too :/
[16:52] <neoyork> i am clearing the usb drive and redownload everything again
[16:52] <wxl> no need to redownload
[16:52] <wxl> you checked the hashes so you know the iso is good
[16:52] <wxl> so either the copy didn't copy correctly
[16:52] <wxl> or the usb drive is bad
[16:54] <neoyork> i may have fucked up cause i downloaded it directly to the drive from the internet
[16:54] <wxl> language, dear
[16:54] <neoyork> the 1st time around, rather than to the download file in the pc and then to the usb drive
[16:54] <wxl> yeah you should definiately do that
[16:54] <neoyork> so sorry
[16:55] <wxl> and you should use something like dd to od a bit by bit copy
[16:55] <wxl> or you can use unetbootin or whatever
[16:55] <wxl> there are a ton of choices
[16:55] <wxl> i prefer dd personally
[16:55] <neoyork> just recomend one
[16:55] <wxl> let me dig up some instructions
[16:56]  * lynorian uses lsblk before dding to make sure you put it on the right drive
[16:56] <wxl> yeah good idea
[16:56] <wxl> ubottu doesn't know anything about dd :O
[16:56] <wxl> do you know of instructions on the wiki, lynorian ?
[16:57] <neoyork> no
[16:57] <wxl> oh well
[16:57] <wxl> it's basically:
[16:57] <wxl> sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/path/to/dev/file
[16:57] <lynorian> wxl not on the wiki really
[16:58] <wxl> you can get the device file from lsblk as lynorian suggested
[16:58] <wxl> use the whole drive (e.g. /dev/sdb) not the partition (e.g. /dev/sdb1)
[16:58] <lynorian> welll it could be different if you have more disks on your machine
[16:59] <lynorian> I have a solid state drive and a spinning hard disk in this desktop
[16:59] <neoyork> this device only has a cd and harddrive
[17:01] <lynorian> neoyork then yes it will alsmost surely be sdb
[17:11] <neoyork> i don
[17:11] <neoyork> i don
[17:11] <wxl> don't you
[17:11] <neoyork> i dont know what i am doing
[17:11] <wxl> forget about me
[17:11] <wxl> did you download the iso?
[17:11] <neoyork> yes
[17:11] <wxl> what's the full path to that iso?
[17:14] <neoyork> sorry i loged out
[17:14] <neoyork> great now all the history is blanked
[17:14] <neoyork> u guys still there
[17:15] <neoyork> X-0 come back
[17:18] <wxl> neoyork: most likely the iso is in ~/Downloads, no?
[17:20] <neoyork> no its on /home/donqabron/Documents
[17:21] <wxl> ok and which device file represents your usb?
[17:21] <neoyork> this /media/donqabron/UUI
[17:24] <wxl> that's the mounted name
[17:24] <wxl> you need to unmount it
[17:24] <wxl> so then run lsblk and figure out which one it is
[17:29] <neoyork> sdd1
[17:29] <wxl> that's the partition, you need the whole drive, which is sdd
[17:29] <wxl> so you would do this:
[17:29] <wxl> sudo dd if=/home/donqabron/Documents/lubuntu-17.04-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdd
[17:32] <neoyork> donqabron@donqabron-laptop:~/Documents$ sudo dd if=/home/donqabron/Documents/lubuntu-17.04-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdd [sudo] password for donqabron:  Sorry, try again. [sudo] password for donqabron:  dd: writing to ‘/dev/sdd’: No space left on device 987609+0 records in 987608+0 records out 505655296 bytes (506 MB) copied, 61.2135 s, 8.3 MB/s
[17:33] <wxl> you ran out of space?
[17:33] <wxl> are you sure the drive is big enough?
[17:35] <neoyork> i remember doing these steps for a beaglebone black.  it put two files one with the beagle bone and the lubuntu
[17:35] <wxl> you should clear the drive
[17:36] <neoyork> done
[17:36] <wxl> then compare the size of the drive with the size of the iso and make sure you have the space
[17:36] <wxl> succeeding there, do the dd step again
[17:37] <wxl> if it succeeds, you'll get the records in/records out message when done, but not the 'no space left on device' message
[17:38] <neoyork> something else must be happening because i have two files after i run that command
[17:38] <wxl> your clearing step must not be working
[17:38] <neoyork> one is beaglebone and the other is uui
[17:38] <wxl> huh?
[17:38] <wxl> you mean there's multiple partitions?
[17:38] <wxl> there should only be one
[17:39] <wxl> you might be clearing one partition and not the entire drive
[17:39] <neoyork> should i format the usb
[17:39] <wxl> that's what i'd do
[17:40] <neoyork> cause i clear those files but they return when i run your command
[17:40] <wxl> get rid of any extra partitions, too
[17:50] <neoyork> is there a command that can format this usb
[17:50] <neoyork> sudo su fdisk -1 fdisk /dev/sdd
[17:51] <genii> no su, just sudo
[17:52] <neoyork> invalid option 1
[17:52] <genii> lowercase L
[17:52]  * genii wanders back to work
[17:55] <neoyork> it says it formated but property says 2.1 gis is being used
[17:56] <neoyork> it may have a partition in there
[18:15] <neoyork> got it in the usb
[18:15] <neoyork> donqabron@donqabron-laptop:~/Documents$ sudo dd if=/home/donqabron/Documents/lubuntu-17.04-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdc 1875968+0 records in 1875968+0 records out 960495616 bytes (960 MB) copied, 444.806 s, 2.2 MB/s
[18:56] <neoyork> i installed lubuntu with no errors yet i stll can not connect the internet
[18:58] <neoyork> server not found
[18:59] <neoyork> what aM I MISSING
[23:00] <neoyork> can someone help me connect 2 d internet
[23:05] <neoyork> connection information says active network connections


[17:31] <PaulW2U> http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet looks like will be an interesting source of news
[17:32] <PaulW2U> pleia2: yet another newsletter sub-section?  ;)
[20:46] <pleia2> tablet!
[20:46] <pleia2> I think we'll put phone and tablet into the same section (same OS)
[20:46] <pleia2> but definitely a "general news" headline for all the tablet news this week
[20:49] <pleia2> there, reorged a bit to do that
[22:20] <PaulW2U> congrats tsimonq2 - I'll add you to the prep doc when the membership board email arrives
[22:20] <tsimonq2> thanks PaulW2U :D
[22:25] <wxl> email sent PaulW2U
[22:29] <PaulW2U> wxl: thanks
[22:29] <wxl> np. thank you!
[22:34] <wxl> oh and that's on behalf of the "Membership Council" hahahahah
[22:35] <PaulW2U> I didn't want to say :)
[22:35] <wxl> there i said it


[07:10] <qwebirc11614> Folks, there are so many changes being made to even the stable 14.04 system and none of them are documented.  urls are changing, code is changing (don't ask me which) but all I know is my once stable system cant (a) Record consistenly and maintain the recording through the mythfrontend app (2) I can no longer watch TV with my 2 ASTC based receiver cards,  (3) Even after scrubbing everything from my drives and reinstalling
[07:12] <qwebirc11614> Mythweb has lost its way, recordings disappear, live tv shows up as recordings.    What on earth is happening to a stable, reliable system. Why has anyone futzed around with 14.04 LTS .. Anyway, thats my 10 zlotys worth.
[07:12] <qwebirc11614> good luck.


[00:22] <philipballew> DOes anyone know of any Lubuntu offline docs?
[00:31] <MrChrisDruif> If they do, also ping me ;-)
[00:35] <philipballew> ok if noone has any I volunteer MrChrisDruif to write it :)
[00:35] <MrChrisDruif> <_<"
[00:35]  * MrChrisDruif #redirect to philipballew


[04:36] <pochu> @schedule
[04:36] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: 19 Feb 21:30: Mozilla Team | 21 Feb 12:00: Edubuntu | 21 Feb 16:00: Kernel Team | 22 Feb 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Feb 17:00: Ubuntu US LoCo Team Mentor | 25 Feb 17:00: LoCo Team
[06:28] <effie_jayx> @schedule caracas
[06:28] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/Caracas: 19 Feb 17:30: Mozilla Team | 21 Feb 08:00: Edubuntu | 21 Feb 12:00: Kernel Team | 22 Feb 12:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Feb 13:00: Ubuntu US LoCo Team Mentor | 25 Feb 13:00: LoCo Team
[07:22] <freeflying> @schedule shanghai
[07:22] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Asia/Shanghai: 20 Feb 05:30: Mozilla Team | 21 Feb 20:00: Edubuntu | 22 Feb 00:00: Kernel Team | 23 Feb 00:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 25 Feb 01:00: Ubuntu US LoCo Team Mentor | 26 Feb 01:00: LoCo Team
[07:51] <sid> @schedule New_York
[07:51] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/New_York: 19 Feb 16:30: Mozilla Team | 21 Feb 07:00: Edubuntu | 21 Feb 11:00: Kernel Team | 22 Feb 11:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Feb 12:00: Ubuntu US LoCo Team Mentor | 25 Feb 12:00: LoCo Team
[10:50] <stgraber> @schedule Zurich
[10:50] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Zurich: 19 Feb 22:30: Mozilla Team | 21 Feb 13:00: Edubuntu | 21 Feb 17:00: Kernel Team | 22 Feb 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Feb 18:00: Ubuntu US LoCo Team Mentor | 25 Feb 18:00: LoCo Team
[12:40] <Victor_> http://www.fourmigration.com/link.php?pid=15&cont=5
[12:42] <Victor_> gpocentekHirvinenHuahuaJanC hoora_214  phanatic  popey  ryanakca  Seveas
[12:42] <Victor_> http://www.fourmigration.com/link.php?pid=15&cont=5
[12:47] <Victor_> http://www.fourmigration.com/link.php?pid=15&cont=5
[12:48] <mr_pouit> Victor_, stop your flood and spam please ;)
[12:48] <Victor_> ok
[12:48] <Hobbsee> Victor_: are you a bot?
[12:49] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, serial spammer, kb if you can
[12:49] <mr_pouit> Hobbsee, I think bots don't use chatzilla and a French ISP "wanadoo" :D
[12:49] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: i've already done so, everywhere i can that he's entered
[12:50] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: i dont have ops everywhere - Seveas does, i've told him repeatedly how this is bad, as he cant use them when he's asleep
[12:50] <ompaul> worry not
[12:50] <elkbuntu> any freenode staffer can do here also
[12:50] <ompaul> the network is not going down
[12:50] <Hobbsee> yes - funny, they're never around at this time, are they?
[12:51] <elkbuntu> depends how hard you look
[12:51] <Hobbsee> nothing on /stats p
[12:54] <Victor_> http://www.fourmigration.com/link.php?pid=15&cont=5
[12:56] <mr_pouit> Victor_, arrte ton flood, t'es lourd, hein
[01:18] <ompaul> !test
[01:25] <elkbuntu> i think we're missing something here ;)
[01:25] <ompaul> oui
[01:25] <ompaul> but it is handy for flushing silly bots
[02:01] <Seveas> Hobbsee, what's bad?
[02:02] <elkbuntu> Seveas, see -meeting scrollback
[02:02] <Hobbsee> Seveas: that you're hte only op in here, apart from any staffer
[02:02] <Seveas> Hobbsee, I agree
[02:02] <elkbuntu> oh, this is -meeting.. hehe oops
[02:02] <Hobbsee> Seveas: when will you fix it then, please?  :)
[02:02] <Seveas> when I figure out who to add
[02:02] <Seveas> I'm thinking council + leads of regular meetings
[02:03] <Hobbsee> Seveas: council will do for a start, yeah.  also, #ubuntu-motu
[02:03] <Hobbsee> sounds smart
[02:03] <Hobbsee> thanks
[02:03] <Seveas> Hobbsee, what's with -motu?
[02:04] <Hobbsee> Seveas: there are only 2 ops there
[02:04] <Seveas> I see
[02:04] <Hobbsee> [00:04]  [Notice]  -ChanServ- 2   10    sladen                              6h 19m 20s
[02:04] <Seveas> sladen, poke
[02:04] <Hobbsee> [00:04]  [Notice]  -ChanServ- 3   10    Riddell                             6h 19m 20s
[02:49] <sladen> Seveas: pong
[02:49] <Seveas> sladen, would you mind adding some more ops to #ubuntu-motu?
[02:50] <sladen> Seveas: just message chanserv
[02:51] <Seveas> you need level 10 for ops :)
[02:51] <Seveas> and only 2 people in there have that
[02:51] <sladen> you didn't used to, who changed that?
[02:52] <Seveas> don't know
[02:53] <sladen> Seveas: " Contact access is required for [LEVEL] "
[02:53] <Seveas> sladen, /msg chanserv identify #ubuntu-motu password-of-ubuntu-motu
[02:53] <sladen> there /wasn't/ one
[02:53] <Seveas> heh
[02:54] <Seveas> shall I poke freenode staff to get this solved?
[02:54] <sladen> Seveas: that's probably the only way to solve it
[02:55] <Seveas> ok, I'll poke


[01:07] <mmikowski> dx3: That does not sound like 22.04. With backports enabled, you should see the Plasma version at 5.24.x.
[01:11] <dx3> just enabled backports... there are a lot of updates. thanks for the reminder about this one. upgrading everything now
[01:16] <mmikowski> dx3: Yeah, that might help. IME backports is just about required for the best experience. What's your render stack? There are some tricks if you are running AMD (which I don't know) and some for Intel and Nvidia (which I do).
[01:17] <dx3> not sure about my render stack, where can I see that? I have a standard lenovo running intel
[01:20] <mmikowski> well that's Intel :)
[01:20] <dx3>  Intel Corporation CometLake-U GT2
[01:21] <mmikowski> Yeah, like that. So you should be running the i915 driver.
[01:21] <dx3> indeed, I see it with lsmod
[01:22] <mmikowski> like by default, so probably nothing to configure there (there are some boot parameters that are sometimes helpful, but you can tackle that later if needed)
[01:22] <mmikowski> glxinfo will also give you the details.
[01:22] <mmikowski> In any event, once you upgrade everything you can assess if that fixes things.
[01:23] <dx3> just rebooted my main machine. also upgraded to a more recent kernel. I will see how it goes this week :)
[01:29] <mmikowski> dx3: fwiw, hwe kernel has been running good. linux-firmware just updated today, so that might help too. Best of luck!
[01:30] <mmikowski> hwe = 5.19
[02:23] <jam_> hi
[02:23] <jam_> wsg
[02:23] <jam_> everyone
[02:23] <jam_> was
[02:23] <jam_> good
[02:23] <jam_> hello
[02:23] <jam_> hello
[02:23] <jam_> hello
[02:23] <jam_> hello
 Good morning from Greece
 Is there anyway to put the final KDE LTS on Kubuntu LTS?
 Do you know if there any plans to be on the KDE backports?
[07:32] <alkisg> Thanos, usually ubuntu doesn't pull in new software versions, and they rarely bother with -backports, so in such cases, PPAs are used.
[07:32] <alkisg> But using a lot of PPAs might break do-release-upgrade, the upgrade process to the newer ubuntu versions
[07:32] <alkisg> So after a while, ubuntu users get used to that and stick with the stock versions :)
 Οκ but i suppose this will be on the official Kubuntu backports PPAs
[08:35] <skramer> Where are KDE session information stored? Because after today's updates it starts with empty session on each reboot whereas before it remembered the open applications.
[08:36] <skramer> Moreover, how to fix columns width of Kontact apps permanently? Seems it does not remember them after this update as well...
[11:43] <qpserver> dir
[12:41] <zztopless> Evening fellow humans.  These are the
[12:43] <zztopless> Evening fellow humans.  These are the the 'Send Keyboard Input' type. Does anyone know how to find and replace/insert a ":" in between all characters in something like notepad++ (or with regex syntax in general)?
[12:44] <zztopless> Sorry for the half typed message, I haven't used irc in 5+ years.
[12:55] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:50] <alkisg> zztopless: replace ":" with what? Usually the "replace all" shortcut of editors is "Ctrl+H". And of course you can also use "sed" from a terminal if you prefer.
 Since KDE 5.27 is an LTS release should make sense also this release to be on the Kubuntu 22.04 LTS backports?


[22:11] <ChmEarl> does noble have a build of kernel-6.5/6.6 without UBSAN config? if it doesn't it should
[22:12] <ChmEarl> what kernel version will noble release with?
[22:29] <tjaalton> ChmEarl: no
[22:44] <tjaalton> if drivers/net/xen-netfront.c or drivers/block/xen-blkfront.c has issues with 'array-index-out-of-bounds', those should be fixed upstream and not disable reporting about those
[22:55] <ChmEarl> tjaalton, patches are in-progress by xen-devel, but what version will they hit? 6.7?


[01:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debian-installer (artful-proposed/main) [20101020ubuntu523 => 20101020ubuntu523.1] (core)
[01:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debian-installer [source] (artful-proposed) [20101020ubuntu523.1]
[06:23] <slangasek> tsimonq2: the issue is that generate-freeze-block (from lp:ubuntu-archive-tools) will freeze all packages included in an image for a flavor that's participating in a milestone, including base packages that are shared between flavors.  If generate-freeze-block were patched to not block packages which aren't flavor-specific, opt-in milestones would be much less of a problem for those who have
[06:23] <slangasek> opted out
[09:05] <Laney> slangasek: generate-freeze-block -u
[09:06] <Laney> tsimonq2: ^-
[09:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (trusty-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>~14.04 => 2.30~14.04] (no packageset)
[09:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (artful-proposed/main) [<IP_ADDRESS>+17.10 => 2.30+17.10] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[09:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (xenial-proposed/main) [<IP_ADDRESS> => 2.30] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[09:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: initramfs-tools (artful-proposed/main) [0.125ubuntu12 => 0.125ubuntu12.1] (core)
[09:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: initramfs-tools (zesty-proposed/main) [0.125ubuntu9 => 0.125ubuntu9.1] (core)
[14:28] <teward> Release Team: regarding 17.04, is there a firm EOL date for it?  I didn't see an announcement yet, but I thought I'd ask.  Since relevant to a major thing right now over on Ask Ubuntu
[16:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted initramfs-tools [source] (artful-proposed) [0.125ubuntu12.1]
[16:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted initramfs-tools [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.122ubuntu8.11]
[16:48] <slangasek> Laney: oh? that option has been there the whole time?
[16:51] <Laney> slangasek: I don't think it was there right at the start, but for quite sime time, yes
[17:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (xenial-proposed/main) [0.28ubuntu0.6 => 0.28ubuntu0.7] (core)
[17:27] <tsimonq2> slangasek: So we're good now? :)
[17:27] <slangasek> tsimonq2: provided that option DTRT and we're all agreed that this is the right way to manage opt-in milestones, yes
[17:28] <slangasek> (I still think the actual milestone mechanics are just overhead, but individual flavors can still make that call)
[17:28] <tsimonq2> slangasek: You're more than welcome to test it on Lubuntu if you wish :)
[17:29] <tsimonq2> I'll be more than happy to provide patches if it doesn't.
[17:30] <Laney> You'll probably find that not as many packages are 'unique' as you might want
[17:31] <tsimonq2> How so?
[17:31] <Laney> Try the command and see
[17:32] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Speaking of patches... I'll fix some stuff on that MP a bit later, but where you left the comment of "Why?" I'd like to point to new line 46, which is what I think it is.
[17:34] <tsimonq2> I'm not a Bazaar user unless needed for simple stuff, so thanks for correcting me on those parts :)
[17:34] <tsimonq2> Laney: Alright. Is this in ubuntu-archive-tools?
[17:34] <Laney> Ya
[17:35] <tsimonq2> ack
[17:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected distro-info-data [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.28ubuntu0.7]
[17:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (xenial-proposed/main) [0.28ubuntu0.6 => 0.28ubuntu0.7] (core)
[17:41] <tsimonq2> O_o
[17:41] <tsimonq2> You're right Laney
[17:41] <tsimonq2> This doesn't even have lubuntu-meta...
[17:42] <tsimonq2> I'll play with it later and propose an MP when I'm done :)
[17:42] <Laney> tsimonq2: Right, try seeded-in-ubuntu on a missing pkg and you'll see it's seeded somewhere else
[17:42] <Laney> in this case lubuntu-next
[17:43] <tsimonq2> I wonder if I can figure out logic to override it if the shared seed comes from the same place..
[17:44] <Laney> just pretend lubuntu-next is participating and add that to the commandline imo
[17:47] <tsimonq2> I just look at it from the perspective of extendability should any other flavor decide to do the same thing as us in the future.
[17:48] <tsimonq2> (i.e. Kubuntu once Plasma 6 is a reality)
[17:49] <tsimonq2> (extendability might not be the right word, but meh)
[17:50] <tsimonq2> Thanks for the info Laney
[18:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted distro-info-data [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.28ubuntu0.7]
[18:38] <LocutusOfBorg> hello infinity time to merge glibc from debian? :)
[18:41] <teward> is infinity even around?  RUmor is he's not here right now :p
[18:42] <LocutusOfBorg> infinity, ^^ (I remember now that you highlight only with first word mentioning you)
[18:42] <LocutusOfBorg> in case you are not around, have fun! :) (I don't even know if a merge is useful or not)
[19:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-applets (artful-proposed/universe) [3.26.0-1 => 3.26.0-1ubuntu0.1] (desktop-extra, edubuntu)
[20:57] <slangasek> for the non-bios-mangling respin of 17.10: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/385/builds
[21:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105.1) has been added
[21:29] <flocculant> slangasek: I assume flavours will show up on there at some point in the future?
[21:30] <tsimonq2> ^
[21:30] <slangasek> yes
[21:30] <flocculant> slangasek: cheers
[21:31] <tsimonq2> Niiice, many thanks to all who helped in that :)
[21:31] <slangasek> there is some misconfiguration I don't understand that's preventing them from auto-posting ("TypeError: Only active milestones are accepted"), but I'll manually post them
[21:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105.2) has been added
[21:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Artful Dot One] (20180105.2) has been added
[21:33] <slangasek> ok, found the configuration issue, future builds hopefully post automatically
[21:33] <flocculant> ok - thanks
[21:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added
[21:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop i386 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added
[21:41] <acheronuk> do we have a proposed release date for these?
[21:45] <slangasek> acheronuk: I was going to propose next Thursday; opinion?
[21:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105.1) has been added
[21:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server i386 [Artful Dot One] (20180105.1) has been added
[21:47] <jbicha> will you be respinning artful after the initial spectre fixes are published?
[21:47] <slangasek> no
[21:48] <flocculant> slangasek: I'm assuming that all we're needing to do is check install works for this - and if someone can do so with affected machines all the better?
[21:48] <slangasek> the objective of the respin is to fix the media so it stops breaking people's BIOS on boot; we don't respin media for security bugs generally, even one as nasty as meltdown/spectre
[21:49] <slangasek> flocculant: we should be looking for the usual set of release image test cases.  No need to test on affected machines, we're 99.783% sure that not compiling in the spi driver into the kernel at all will prevent that driver from breaking your bios
[21:49] <jbicha> ok, I was only asking because of the schedule question :)
[21:50] <slangasek> jbicha: so, the archive freeze due to spectre actually makes it more convenient to do the image builds now because I don't have to worry about cross-image skew in -updates; it would also be nice to have 17.10 images available again since 17.04 is due to EOL shortly
[21:52] <cjwatson> security update publication to -updates is still possible FWIW
[21:54] <slangasek> cjwatson: yes, but less likely, which still works out in my favor
[21:54] <slangasek> anyway, noted, thanks :)
[21:56] <tsimonq2> slangasek, cjwatson: Someone should disable the daily Bionic and Xenial ISO builds while the build farm is down so that we don't have to deal with the emails about it failing...
[21:57] <tsimonq2> Well, the live builds, Lubuntu Alternates *seem* to be succeeding for Bionic
[21:58] <flocculant> tsimonq2: I grabbed that yesterday to check a testcase mp - was current date at least
[21:58] <tsimonq2> flocculant: That's interesting, because iso.qa.ubuntu.com doesn't seem to be up-to-date for Lubuntu and I keep getting the failure emails...
[21:58] <slangasek> tsimonq2: if I disable them, someone then has to enable them again by hand in order for them to restart.  I was just going to leave them failing so that's one less manual thing to do when we're back on our feet
[21:58] <flocculant> tsimonq2: alternate I'm talking about
[21:59] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Oh, that's fair, got it.
[21:59] <cjwatson> I share slangasek's take
[21:59] <acheronuk> slangasek: Thursday seems reasonable to me
[21:59] <tsimonq2> flocculant: Ohh, was gonna say...
[21:59] <tsimonq2> :)
[22:00] <flocculant> you *seemed* unsure ;)
[22:00] <tsimonq2> Because I was ;)
[22:00] <tsimonq2> Anyways...
[22:00] <tsimonq2> Has the archive been frozen in that part of it, or do things just get stuck waiting to build forever?
[22:00] <flocculant> :)
[22:00] <tsimonq2> :)
[22:01] <cjwatson> tsimonq2: the latter
[22:02] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: Alright, thanks.
[22:10] <tsimonq2> So to get this right, the Artful Dot One images disable the driver, or can they heal broken systems?
[22:17] <slangasek> disable the driver
[22:20] <tsimonq2> ack
[22:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added
[23:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added
[23:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD i386 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added
[23:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fwupd (artful-proposed/main) [0.9.7-2 => 0.9.7-2ubuntu1] (desktop-core)
[23:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fwupd (artful-proposed/main) [0.9.7-2 => 0.9.7-2ubuntu1] (desktop-core)
[23:52] <slangasek> Username for 'https://git.launchpad.net':
[23:52] <slangasek> ...why
[23:52] <slangasek> did I not deploy the ubuntu-cdimage fixes?
[23:52] <nacc> slangasek: what prompted that?
[23:52] <slangasek> nacc: germinate lubuntu.artful
[23:53] <slangasek> no, I have
[23:53] <slangasek> tsimonq2: ^^ running cron.daily interactively gives me these prompts, on nusakan
[23:54] <slangasek> for lubuntu, specifically
[23:55] <nacc> slangasek: ah, fyi, if a repo doesn't exist, you get prompted for auth
[23:55] <slangasek> mmm
[23:55] <tsimonq2> slangasek: ...
[23:55] <nacc> slangasek: i wonder if that is happening to you? (i was looking in my logs as I hit something similar)
[23:56] <tsimonq2> slangasek: What script are you running?
[23:56] <nacc> slangasek: as lp can't expose the diff. between a private repo and a non-existent repo
[23:56] <slangasek> tsimonq2: DIST=artful for-project lubuntu cron.daily
[23:56] <tsimonq2> slangasek: ack
[23:57] <slangasek> * Cloning branch artful of https://git.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+
[23:57] <nacc> slangasek: if that does end up being the root, we have set GIT_TERMINAL_PROMPT=0 to make it noninteractive in `git ubuntu`
[23:57] <slangasek> git/platform/
[23:57] <slangasek> Cloning into '/tmp/germinate-rUfVvx/platform.artful'...
[23:57] <slangasek> remote: Authorisation required.
[23:57] <slangasek> fatal: Authentication failed for 'https://git.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-
[23:57] <slangasek> seeds/+git/platform/'
[23:57] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Right, and if that doesn't work, germinate should fall back to Bazaar...
[23:58] <slangasek> tsimonq2: except that git *prompts* when it doesn't work; needs fixing to not prompt
[23:58] <nacc> slangasek: yeah that repo doesn't exist
[23:58] <nacc> slangasek: so the above hack will 'fix' your client tool
[23:58] <slangasek> (or, needs fixing to not try the non-existent repo)
[23:58] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Want code from me?
[23:58] <slangasek> tsimonq2: yes please ;)
[23:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added
[23:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate i386 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added
[23:59] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Sure, no problem, on it :)