[00:00] <wilee-nilee> I assume more workspaces is more desktops here
[00:00] <sedeki> finally
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> cool
[00:03] <netm_> Anybody know how to nest controllers intol folders?
[00:04] <sybariten> i have a packard bell USB drive thats attached. Its supposed to be 250 gb but im starting to wonder if the actual drive inside is a 120gb.  How do i determine physical drive size?
[00:04] <sybariten> Preferable human readable format
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> sybariten, gparted, disk app
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> disks*
[00:06] <sybariten> wilee-nilee: ok...
[00:06] <sybariten> thanks
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[00:08] <Serus> hi
[00:08] <Serus> I'm on a UEFI laptop trying to get grub to boot
[00:09] <bag-man> Ping
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> pong
[00:09] <Serus> can somebody help me with boot-repair disk?
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> Serus, You have ubuntu installed and trying to get a grub prompt?
[00:10] <Serus> not, ubuntu, but linux mint
[00:10] <Serus> but yes
[00:10] <Serus> I'm trying to get the grub prompt yes
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> Serus, I would use the ubuntu forums for two reasons, 1 people focused on this area 2 mint is not supported here.
[00:11] <lightntangy> hi all
[00:11] <Serus> the browser in boot-repair-disk doesn't work
[00:11] <mrrcp> hi
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> Serus, Make a therad with uefi i it and post the bootinfo summary.
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> s/thread/in
[00:12] <lightntangy> does anyone know how to fix kernal panic?
[00:12] <Omen_20> Is it possible to have the Dash search files on other partitions? I have the partition mounted but nothing is coming up from it.
[00:12] <Ari-Yang> !kernelpanic
[00:12] <Ari-Yang> !panic
[00:12] <Ari-Yang> :X
[00:12] <fishduck> hello dire meatbags. Just installed ubuntu, and to my great surprise I've got an 'apache2' server running. Now, what is going on?
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> lightntangy, Is it every time?
[00:13] <fishduck> also, what's apache2?
[00:13] <lightntangy> it is everytime
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> lightntangy, Has it always?
[00:13] <lightntangy> it has since last night
[00:14] <lightntangy> fresh install on a new machine
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> lightntangy, Fixing it I would not know, any background leading to this? Is this a kernel update?
[00:14] <lightntangy> no, its a newly built machine
[00:14] <Squiggle> hi
[00:15] <lightntangy> has never had an os on it
[00:15] <lightntangy> kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on  unknown block(0,0)
[00:15] <lightntangy> that is the specific error
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> lightntangy, This a uefi chip?
[00:15] <lightntangy> it is
[00:16] <Omen_20> I don't know about anyone else, but Ubuntu's dash search is incredibly slow for me. It just sits there and spins for almost all queries.
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> lightntangy, Ah, oh boy what fun, hehe, not really the most known subject here, but that info will help.
[00:16] <lightntangy> ha, thanks
[00:16] <sanjay> sir, i can't update from ubuntu 13.04 to ubuntu 13.10
[00:16] <Omen_20> I have a feeling once I install 8.1 next week I'll never look back at Ubuntu's Dash and just run GNOME 3.10
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> Omen_20, If you load a ppa it is basically not supported here, just info.
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> Omen_20, use the stock gnome-shell I do I like it.
[00:19] <sanjay> sir, i can't update from ubuntu 13.04 to ubuntu 13.10  even i can't install updates of ubuntu13.04 pls help me
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> sanjay, YOu have software sources set to all jupdates and have removed the 3rd part repos and if ppa's with ppa-purge?
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> updates*
[00:19] <Squiggle> o.o
[00:19] <Omen_20> I've also got a bug where I can only move windows to horizontal workspaces when using the hotkeys. So if I want to move one up or down, I have to drag and drop.
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> sanjay, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin all of it.
[00:21] <fishduck> why is an apache server running on my ubuntu installation?
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> Omen_20, You can tweak compiz till it's broken and reset it.
[00:23] <sybariten> fishduck: what kind of answer do you expect....?
[00:24] <fishduck> sybariten: "it's there by default" ?
[00:25] <packeteer> is the saucy sources.list borken? I've just installed but updating is failing
[00:25] <fishduck> sybariten: well, did you have any goal with your weird attitude or did you just want to throw that out for no reason at all?
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> packeteer, Can you do it from the cli and pastebin it, maybe change the repo from software sources, not broken no.
[00:27] <Squiggle> how do you fix the /usr/bin/mrtg
[00:27] <Squiggle> :/
[00:27] <Squiggle> now it won't work
[00:27] <Squiggle> after removing and installing
[00:27] <packeteer> wilee-nilee: i am using command line. keep getting 404's. tried a few different mirrors
[00:27] <packeteer> gonna recreate my sources.list and try again
[00:27] <sybariten> i just didnt know what you were looking for in terms of answer. Ofcourse its running by default, if you discovered that its... running by default. Maybe you wanted to know something about the philosophy of the ubuntu creators in terms of preinstalled services. F__k if i know....
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> Squiggle, Whats is /mrtg?
[00:28] <Squiggle> Multi Router Traffic Grapher
[00:28] <Squiggle> it's like cacti
[00:28] <Squiggle> but this one is uncool
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> packeteer, Is it showing errors at the end?
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> oh my uncool, heaven forbid, heh
[00:29] <Squiggle> heh
[00:30] <Squiggle> so
[00:30] <Squiggle> now crontab does nothing
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> packeteer, Here is a nice site for that. http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[00:33] <packeteer> thanks, i was just on there
[00:33] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> packeteer, Are you modifying the connect with a proxy...etc?
[00:34] <packeteer> no
[00:34] <Tetracomm> I bought a laptop a few weeks ago which came with Windows 8. It is a Toshiba Satellite L875D, but Wubi doesn't work, apparently due to UEFI. Can I safely install Ubuntu without Wubi on this Windows 8 machine, despite UEFI?
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | Tetracomm rumor is yes.
[00:35] <packeteer> wilee-nilee: seems to work now that I've used that site to generate a new sources.list
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> Tetracomm, here is another link. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[00:35] <spiluk> Any idea why lightdm screen seems to reload itself when I come to login screen after restarting/booting?
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> packeteer, Cool, that's always nice.
[00:36] <lightntangy> wilee-nilee i worked out the issue with the kernal panic
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> lightntangy, That is awesome, good job.
[00:36] <lightntangy> the cd was recognised at boot, but disposed of right after
[00:36] <n008> besides ~/.bashrc file is there anywher I can add bash functions and make them callable from the shell?
[00:37] <lightntangy> so you need to use a bootable usb to bypass
[00:37] <n008> not scripts, but functions.
[00:37] <lightntangy> as far as i know so far
[00:37] <Tetracomm> wilee-nilee: Thank you. I will try now.
[00:37] <lightntangy> thanks for the help
[00:37] <n008> or perhaps make all functions in a script globally available ?
[00:37] <packeteer> thanks for the help wilee-nilee
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[00:41] <spiluk> hey any idea how to use the "Add Event" menu in datetime-indicator?
[00:42] <spiluk> well nothing seems to happen when I click it
[00:44] <bigbadben> So I have this old project that when a button is pressed on my webpage it runs a script sudo /home/userName/myscript.sh  .  I am not prompted for a password because I edited out sudoers page no pass for only that command. Is this the most secure way to do this?
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> no lol
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> !sudo
[00:46] <spiluk>  /facepalm
[00:55] <guidov> hello. just installed ubuntu 12.04 on a pc. hangs at a login screen, sometimes while the intro sound is played indefinitely until i reboot. strange thing is, if i boot into recovery mode and then choose "resume boot" it doesnt hang and i can use the system
[00:56] <guidov> how can i find out what's causing this?
[00:56] <marcos_> boa noite preciso de ajuda com modem 3g  olivetti já encontrei na net algumas opções mas não sei como editar os arquivos
[00:57] <genii> !br | marcos_
[00:57] <marcos_> #ubuntu-br
[01:01] <richringer> Hi, How can I see what is binding to port 23 and is there a way to disable it? i want to use it for my bbs instead.
[01:02] <KingPin> lsof -i :23
[01:02] <richringer> thanks..
[01:04] <richringer> strange... nothing is bound to it...
[01:14] <gimpygoo> Hello all. Hope you guys are doing well tonight/today.
[01:14] <gimpygoo> Where ever you are : )
[01:15] <deper29> guidov: when it hangs, can you ctrl+alt+f1 into tty1?
[01:16] <pseubodot> is anyone else having breakage issues with sane after an upgrade to 13.10?
[01:18] <freemanjim> cannot
[01:18] <freemanjim> send
[01:18] <freemanjim> test
[01:18] <freemanjim> cannot send to channel ubuntu
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> I disagree
[01:19] <freemanjim> you saw my meg?
[01:19] <freemanjim> message?
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> yep
[01:19] <freemanjim> oh weird
[01:19] <freemanjim> ok
[01:19] <tripp> Hi. I was wondering how i can get a weather applet indicator in my status bar? Using 13.10 I cant find an option. Anyone able to point me in the right direction?
[01:19] <genii> freemanjim: Yes, we see what you type
[01:19] <freemanjim> thanks gents
[01:20] <bigbadben> wilee-nilee, but if they can only not be prompt for a password when they run that whats it matter? It needs to be sudo because that script calls python scriptThatNeedsToBeRoot
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> bigbadben, Not really an area I'm an expert in, it just seemed kinda funky, I should not have said anything really, my bad.
[01:24] <freemanjim> #
[01:25] <Tetracomm> Hello. The Ubuntu liveDVD detected my partitions on my Windows 8 UEFI laptop, but it said it didn't detect any operating systems. Should I go ahead and manually resize a partition to create free space for Ubuntu? (it doesn't offer to resize for me)
[01:26] <freemanjim> #ircbot
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> Tetracomm, You want to resize windows from its partitioner in admin leaving a unallocated space.
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> Tetracomm, Be sure to do a backup of it you are allowed at least one image/clone up to pro which had unlimited, and do a reboot so it run the autochkdsk.
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> runs*
[01:29] <Tetracomm> wilee-nilee: Thanks. How do I get into the partitioner?
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> Tetracomm, It's in admin I usually type disk and it shows, I think it's called disk manager.
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> or management
[01:32] <andreric> Hi, I'm trying to make a dual-boot using Ubuntu 13.10 and Windows 8.1, but when I try to install Ubuntu 13.10 it doesn't recognize the Windows 8.1 installation. Can you help me?
[01:32] <Tetracomm> I think I found it. BRB
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | andreric
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> andreric, More uefi info be sure thats what it is a take a look at the bots info and this thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> andreric, Is the second install W8.1 or ubuntu?
[01:41] <iIlL10Oo> what is this mean ? debian-sa1
[01:42] <iIlL10Oo> it is in cron , but can't find the man page
[01:42] <iIlL10Oo> google "debian-sa1" can't find man page too
[01:46] <iIlL10Oo> # Activity reports every 10 minutes everyday
[01:46] <iIlL10Oo> 5-55/10 * * * * root command -v debian-sa1 > /dev/null && debian-sa1 1 1
[01:49] <mjw65ss> I had a successful LFS build using 13.10 as host. After reboot to LFS, was met wit a login screen. Now what.
[01:49] <freemanjim> meh
[01:49] <freemanjim> 1=1
[01:49] <freemanjim> 1+1
[01:49] <genii> iIlL10Oo: Might want to look up sat, sadd/sadc, sar
[01:50] <genii> sa1, not sat, rather
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> mjw65ss, log in?
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> mjw65ss, No user or password we assume right?
[01:51] <iIlL10Oo> genii: what is sadd/sadc
[01:51] <mjw65ss> Booted into new LFS and met by a login screen in terminal
[01:51] <mjw65ss> correct
[01:51] <mjw65ss> I must have missed somethin
[01:51] <mjw65ss> something
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> mjw65ss, I would suspect more detail or yeah another try.
[01:52] <genii> iIlL10Oo: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/en/man8/sadc.8.html
[01:54] <iIlL10Oo> genii: thanks
[01:54] <mjw65ss> LFS booted perfect on first try to a login screen. I cant remember if there was any way to set a user and passw
[01:57] <mjw65ss> It was pretty exciting seeing it boot up and work..then the login screen..
[01:57] <bonhoeffer> does anyone know how to view my print jobs
[01:57] <mjw65ss> err prompt
[01:57] <Foxhoundz> i have a crap load of .tar.gz archives in a folder. Anyone know how to batch untar them all into their own folders?
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> mjw65ss, I'm looking at the manual what does lfs do
[01:57] <bkr4god> good evening all
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> mjw65ss, as a user and myabe password
[01:58] <bkr4god> can someone help me with a printing issue?
[01:58] <mjw65ss> its a completely base system.
[01:58] <bcgrown> I have Intel HDA (ALC887) sound and I can't play multiple audio sources at the same time after I upgraded to xubuntu 13.10.  It worked before.  How do I make it work again?
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> bkr4god, Maybe, give the channel the issues identifying the printer of course in that.
[02:01] <bonhoeffer> I can send a test page, but I can't actually send any print jobs
[02:01] <bkr4god> Ok I have set up Ubuntu 12 in a VMWare and I am trying to connect to a shared printer on a windows computer that is shared.  I have edited the smb.conf file for the workgroup to ensure that it is in the same workgroup.  I have also installed the samba services. I just seem unable to see that Windows computer
[02:02] <mjw65ss> I'll mess with it some more I guess. BUT it's safe to say LFS can be built with Ubuntu 13.10 as a host!
[02:03] <Slade-> does ubuntu have a shortcut for 'adduser' for service accounts (no home directory, /bin/false login, etc)
[02:03] <deper29> mjw65ss: don't you just 'useradd USER'?
[02:04] <CodeOmegaPrime> Slade deper29 is correct that is the best way to add users
[02:04] <Arroweb> hi!
[02:04] <Slade-> CodeOmegaPrime: err i think hes answering someone else. because it doesnt really answer my question ;)
[02:05] <CodeOmegaPrime> Slade sorry misread :) been coding all day :\
[02:05] <deper29> Slade-: I think it still applies to you
[02:05] <CodeOmegaPrime> :P
[02:05] <mjw65ss> deper29: Im stuck at the login/passw prompt
[02:05] <Slade-> deper29: or just 'no' would be fine
[02:06] <Slade-> used unix systems in the past that've had adddummyuser etc
[02:06] <deper29> Slade-: if you do useradd I don't believe it adds a home directory unless you give it the option
[02:06] <deper29> mjw65ss: can you log in as root?
[02:06] <Slade-> deper29: other way around. it adds a home unless you say not to
[02:06] <mjw65ss> tried that
[02:06] <deper29> mjw65ss: did you create an account?
[02:07] <deper29> you could chroot the LFS system
[02:07] <deper29> in fact, that's what I would recommend
[02:07] <Slade-> deper29: i'm essentially doing sudo adduser apollo --no-create-home --disabled-login --disabled-password --shell /bin/false
[02:07] <Slade-> no packages for apollo so gotta install it myself ;/
[02:08] <deper29> Slade-: useradd
[02:08] <deper29> not adduser
[02:08] <mjw65ss> Thanks for the help. Im going to mess with it some more.
[02:08] <Slade-> yea. sorry :)
[02:08] <deper29> mjw65ss: do you know how to chroot?
[02:09] <Slade-> ahh useradd has a -s
[02:09] <Slade-> for systema account
[02:09] <mjw65ss> I tried useradd...then it asked for a password
[02:10] <Slade-> err -r
[02:10] <mjw65ss> The LFS is on its own partition, not on a VM
[02:10] <deper29> mjw65ss: I understand that
[02:11] <deper29> Do you know how to chroot the system?
[02:11] <mjw65ss> no
[02:11] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay, I'll walk you through then
[02:11] <deper29> you're in ubuntu right now?
[02:11] <mjw65ss> I cant get passed the login
[02:12] <mjw65ss> no
[02:12] <deper29> mjw65ss: what are you in right now?
[02:12] <mjw65ss> LFS
[02:12] <deper29> so you're logged in?
[02:12] <mjw65ss> its at terminal with prompt..
[02:12] <deper29> the computer you are chatting with me on right now
[02:12] <bcgrown> I have Intel HDA (ALC887) sound and I can't play multiple audio sources at the same time after I upgraded to xubuntu 13.10.  It worked before.  How do I make it work again?
[02:13] <deper29> is that a different computer?
[02:13] <mjw65ss> Sorry Im on different computer
[02:13] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay, I was confused :P
[02:13] <deper29> mjw65ss: do you have a usb to boot from that has a linux distro on it?
[02:14] <mjw65ss> ya
[02:14] <mjw65ss> its Linux lite
[02:14] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay, boot from that
[02:17] <in_deep_thought> what is the command to check different processes running on different ports of localhost?
[02:17] <mjw65ss> Ok I have another Ubuntu booted
[02:17] <gimpygoo> The more I use Ubuntu.. The more I love it... Im so suprised more people arent on board with this amazing os.
[02:17] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay, go to one of those wonderful terminals
[02:17] <mjw65ss> On the LFS computer
[02:17] <gimpygoo> I cannot believe how fast it is....
[02:17] <mjw65ss> its there
[02:17] <deper29> mjw65ss: yes
[02:18] <deper29> mjw65ss: mkdir /mnt/LFS
[02:18] <gimpygoo> I have it installed on an old old comp and its suprisingly fast
[02:18] <deper29> mjw65ss: when you did LFS, did you just make one partition for everything?
[02:18] <gimpygoo> I have I dont know how many applications running right now.. multiple desktops.. AWESOME!!
[02:18] <gimpygoo> Ok, ill stop gushing now.. sorry.. I just had to say it.
[02:19] <deper29> or did you make several partitions?
[02:19] <mjw65ss> 1 partition and a shared swap
[02:20] <mjw65ss> sda3 and shared sda5 swap :)
[02:20] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay, 'sudo mount /dev/SDX /mnt/LFS'
[02:20] <mjw65ss> X is partition?
[02:21] <ianorlin> x is drive letter a for first hard drive b for second
[02:21] <mjw65ss> so sda
[02:23] <deper29> mjw65ss: yeah, what ianorlin said
[02:23] <deper29> you got that done though?
[02:23] <mjw65ss> not found
[02:25] <gimpygoo> what is the terminal command to see the incoming and outgoing connections?
[02:25] <deper29> mjw65ss: not found?
[02:25] <gimpygoo> thanks in advance btw..
[02:25] <somsip> gimpygoo: netstat maybe?
[02:26] <gimpygoo> somsip, i was wanting something that actively watches... do you know anything that does that ?
[02:27] <somsip> gimpygoo: netstat -c (try man netstat)
[02:28] <gimpygoo> ok i'll give it a shot.
[02:28] <gimpygoo> Thanks somsip
[02:29] <mjw65ss> deper29: Let me switch comps and join irc there
[02:29] <mjw65ss> thanks
[02:30] <deper29> mjw65ss: join on the LFS one?
[02:34] <vangelis> hello
[02:36] <sweb> my firefox geolocation dosnt work after update to 23
[02:36] <sweb> and later
[02:36] <sweb> currecnt is 25
[02:37] <sweb> any of you guys have same problem?
[02:37] <deper29> sweb: I'm on 24, no issues here
[02:37] <sweb> try this to figure it out : http://www.openstreetmap.org/
[02:37] <sweb> deper29: so it seems be for my network ... isnt ?
[02:38] <sweb> chromium also dosnt work
[02:38] <mjw65ss> deper29: Back
[02:38] <sweb> any depend on os ? or network ?
[02:38] <fishcooker> how to secure ubuntu installation without copying?
[02:38] <deper29> sweb: wait, mine doesn't work
[02:38] <hitsujiTMO> sweb: go to google.com and search for "where am i"   is it accurate?
[02:38] <Ben64> sweb: you may want to try the #firefox channel
[02:39] <deper29> mjw65ss: it won't let you mount?
[02:39] <mjw65ss> Im on the LFS computer booted into 13.10
[02:39] <mjw65ss> now
[02:39] <deper29> mjw65ss: can you mount /dev/sdX /mnt/LFS?
[02:40] <mjw65ss> I need the command again please
[02:40] <deper29> mjw65ss: mount /dev/sdX /mnt/LFS
[02:40] <deper29> if you've already made the LFS directory under /mnt
[02:41] <genii> mjw65ss: Perhaps add: sudo   ...before the command
[02:41] <mjw65ss> mount: mount point /mnt/LFS does not exist
[02:41] <sweb1> deper29: it seems be for network after changin my network from WiMAX to DSL ... DSL worked :|
[02:41] <kalus> 3
[02:42] <sanjay>  Sir, I am using ubuntu13.04, since  its launching now i can't  update it to ubuntu 13.10  it showing  some error occured to run  package manager.. pls help me
[02:42] <in_deep_thought> how can I see what is running on a certain pid?
[02:42] <in_deep_thought> what would be the command
[02:42] <deper29> mjw65ss: mkdir /mnt/LFS
[02:42] <fishcooker> how to make the ubuntu box can't copied even cloned?
[02:42] <deper29> mjw65ss: oh, yeah, do what genii said
[02:43] <deper29> mjw65ss: do sudo for everything I said
[02:43] <Akinatopsia> hey
[02:43] <deper29> I'll remember to put sudo in there from now on. I promise :)
[02:43] <Akinatopsia> random question: anyone here from oregon or california?
[02:43] <mjw65ss> ok now it says its already mounted
[02:44] <ianorlin> fishcooker I think live dvd can't be copied if you do not mount any writable media but that does not work as a full system and don't have a burner
[02:44] <fishcooker> i mean the ubuntu box ianorlin
[02:44] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay, perfect
[02:45] <deper29> mjw65ss: mount -t proc none /mnt/LFS/proc
[02:45] <deper29> mount --rbind /sys /mnt/LFS/sys
[02:45] <sanjay>  Sir, I am using ubuntu13.04, since  its launching now i can't  update it to ubuntu 13.10  it showing  some error occured to run  package manager.. pls help me
[02:45] <deper29> mjw65ss: *do as sudo*
[02:45] <deper29> I forgot :(
[02:46] <deper29> mjw65ss: sudo mount --rbind /dev /mnt/LFS/dev
[02:46] <deper29> mjw65ss: tell me when you've done those
[02:47] <mjw65ss> mount: mount point /mnt/LFS/proc does not exist
[02:48] <skelterjohn> hi - I'm trying to install dolphin-emu via ppa (https://launchpad.net/~glennric/+archive/dolphin-emu). I've added "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/glennric/dolphin-emu/ubuntu oneiric main" to the repositories via synaptic, but dolphin-emu doesn't show up in the package list. can anyone help me trouble-shoot?
[02:48] <mjw65ss> mount: mount point /mnt/LFS/dev does not exist
[02:48] <kalus> mas:hi
[02:48] <sanjay> sudo apt-get
[02:49] <mjw65ss> ok I mounted the LFS as per LFS book
[02:49] <deper29> mjw65ss: how do they do it out of curiosity?
[02:49] <mjw65ss> export LFS=/mnt/lfs
[02:50] <mjw65ss> mkdir -pv $LFS
[02:50] <mjw65ss> mount -v -t ext4 /dev/<xxx> $LFS
[02:50] <Ben64> sanjay: "some error" isn't helpful. pastebin the full error
[02:50] <deper29> mjw65ss: you umounted /mnt/LFS though, yes?
[02:51] <mjw65ss> No i am mounted now
[02:51] <mjw65ss> as root
[02:51] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay, then 'sudo mount -t proc none /mnt/lfs/proc'
[02:52] <mjw65ss> that worked
[02:53] <deper29> 'sudo mount --rbind /sys /mnt/lfs/sys'
[02:53] <deper29> 'sudo mount --rbind /dev /mnt/lfs/dev'
[02:54] <mjw65ss> done
[02:54] <cortexA9> hello all
[02:55] <deper29> mjw65ss: 'chroot /mnt/lfs /bin/bash'
[02:55] <mjw65ss> ok at bash prompt
[02:55] <deper29> mjw65ss: are you root?
[02:55] <yeyeman> what is the intended gesture to make the launcher bar appear, if it's on auto hide?
[02:55] <mjw65ss> yes root
[02:55] <deper29> mjw65ss: 'passwd'
[02:56] <deper29> set your root password
[02:56] <yeyeman> it feels like i have to rub the cursor against the side for it to happen
[02:56] <yeyeman> and even then it does not always appear
[02:56] <ianorlin> that isn't supported here ...
[02:56] <mjw65ss> ok done
[02:56] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay, now do
[02:56] <mjw65ss> now for passw
[02:57] <wafflejock> yeyeman: you can modify the sensitivity in system settings I believe
[02:57] <deper29> mjw65ss: wait, you did passwd already, yes?
[02:57] <mjw65ss> sorry yes
[02:58] <mjw65ss> now user name
[02:58] <yeyeman> wafflejock: yeah ok thanks
[02:58] <deper29> mjw65ss: you don't need to do that now
[02:58] <deper29> I mean, you *can*
[02:58] <sanjay> ben  how to paste bin the
[02:58] <deper29> else, 'exit'
[02:58] <mjw65ss> might as well
[02:58] <yeyeman> are there more themes than radiance and ambiance?
[02:58] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay, tell me when that's done
[02:58] <mjw65ss> passwd is done
[02:59] <deper29> mjw65ss: oh, I meant the useradd.
[02:59] <Ben64> !pastebin | sanjay
[02:59] <deper29> do you know how to do the useradd?
[02:59] <sanjay> Ben64:E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring-security_main_i18n_Translation-en (1)
[02:59] <sanjay> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[02:59] <sanjay> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[02:59] <mjw65ss> no
[03:00] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay
[03:00] <Ben64> sanjay: PASTEBIN the whole thing, the command, the error, everything. do NOT paste in here
[03:00] <wafflejock> deper29: what are you trying to do
[03:00] <wafflejock> !info useradd
[03:01] <deper29> mjw65ss: 'useradd -m -G group1,group2,... -s /bin/bash USERNAME
[03:01] <deper29> wafflejock: adding a user
[03:01] <wafflejock> deper29: yeah looks fine
[03:01] <sanjay> Ben64.. pls help  me...
[03:02] <sanjay>  i didn't understand
[03:02] <wafflejock> deper29: actually think you may need a -c in there
[03:02] <wafflejock> deper29: ah no just for comment
[03:03] <deper29> wafflejock: not *necessary*
[03:03] <wafflejock> deper29: yeah not necessary
[03:03] <wafflejock> deper29: think I used adduser last time and it walks you through it a bit
[03:03] <wafflejock> !adduser
[03:04] <deper29> wafflejock: you can add to wheel to can you not?
[03:04] <wafflejock> deper29: sorry not familiar with wheel?
[03:05] <deper29> wafflejock: I don't know if ubuntu uses the wheel group or not now that I think of it
[03:05] <mjw65ss> Ok added group and user and passwd
[03:05] <deper29> mjw65ss: 'exit'
[03:05] <genii> deper29: No, doesn't use wheel group
[03:05] <mjw65ss> And that was into the LFS system correct?
[03:06] <deper29> mjw65ss: type the command 'exit'
[03:06] <mjw65ss> done
[03:06] <deper29> 'umount -l  /mnt/lfs/dev{/shm,/pts,}
[03:07] <deper29> 'umount -l /mnt/lfs/proc
[03:07] <deper29> 'reboot'
[03:07] <mjw65ss> ok deper29 I'll tell ya how it goes
[03:08] <deper29> mjw65ss: sounds good
[03:08] <mjw65ss> thanks for the massive help
[03:08] <wafflejock> deper29: ah just read back realized you were helping not asking... sorry bout that
[03:08] <deper29> wafflejock: no worries
[03:08] <deper29> wafflejock: you forced me to read the man pages to see what -c did :P
[03:08] <wafflejock> haha :)
[03:09] <deper29> side note: I've never used LFS
[03:09] <gimpygoo> Heya Waffle! How are ya bud ?
[03:09] <deper29> I'd like to try it sometime
[03:09] <wafflejock> gimpygoo: doing pretty well, putting off a battle with AngularJS and google maps
[03:10] <gimpygoo> lol
[03:12] <gimpygoo> Any recommendation for a webcam application ?
[03:13] <gimpygoo> So I can broadcast a webcam to my gf that is out of town ?
[03:13] <gimpygoo> I want to broadcast on a self hosted webpage using dyns..
[03:14] <gimpygoo> I also have to get my dyns working on ubuntu..
[03:14] <gimpygoo> I need an app that I can redirect my page to this comp.. I know that apache ( at least I think ) is included with ubuntu.... Right ?
[03:15] <mjw65ss> deper29 Thanks that worked like a champ
[03:15] <deper29> mjw65ss: perfect :)
[03:15] <deper29> mjw65ss: were you able to login as both root and your other user?
[03:16] <mjw65ss> Now i need to figure out how to choose between LFS and 13.10
[03:16] <deper29> mjw65ss: are you using grub?
[03:16] <mjw65ss> I logged in as other user and was happy with that
[03:17] <mjw65ss> yes grub2
[03:17] <deper29> which of the two does your BIOS point to?
[03:17] <deper29> does it point to boot from lfs or ubuntu?
[03:17] <mjw65ss> im in 13.10 right now on same comp as LFS
[03:17] <deper29> which is the default now?
[03:18] <mjw65ss> LFS is default
[03:18] <deper29> okay, in your lfs system, I think if you do 'grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg' as root that *should* find ubuntu
[03:19] <mjw65ss> Id rather have 13.10 as default
[03:20] <deper29> mjw65ss: are they installed on two separate drives?
[03:20] <deper29> or is it one drive 2 partitions?
[03:20] <mjw65ss> 1 drive 2 partitions and a shared swap
[03:21] <deper29> mjw65ss: in all honesty, since you're in lfs I would just do the command I did and it should find ubuntu
[03:21] <mjw65ss> im in ubuntu now
[03:22] <mjw65ss> but i will try that
[03:22] <deper29> then you just edit /etc/default/grub and set GRUB_DEFAULT to whichever menu entry is ubuntu
[03:23] <deper29> *however* that might not work. If it has alternate boot options under a submenu of a sort, then you have to edit /etc/grub.d/ stuff
[03:24] <deper29> and unfortunately that's out of my skill because I've never cared to do it.
[03:24] <racecar> Hey! Whats up? 3
[03:25] <mjw65ss> I'll keep working on it and report back. You helped enough already Thanks
[03:25] <deper29> mjw65ss: lol, no problem
[03:25] <racecar> Hey guys what is the best vm for ubuntu?
[03:25] <deper29> mjw65ss: out of curiosity, why did you install LFS?
[03:26] <deper29> !best
[03:26] <deper29> !best | racecar
[03:26] <mjw65ss> Just to see ifI could do it and learn more
[03:26] <mjw65ss> then I hit the login prompt haha
[03:26] <deper29> mjw65ss: that's fair. I've always wanted to try it. Keep considering it, just need the time
[03:27] <racecar> or a better question, can malware thats on a liveusb infect my windows/ubuntu drives? I think it cant, but need confirmation
[03:27] <deper29> yeah, haha, I've had that *exact* problem. I forgot to set my root password before during an install and couldn't do anythnig
[03:27] <mjw65ss> took me about 7 hours total
[03:27] <deper29> sounds right. I think my gentoo install was a bit shorter, but mind you I don't think I had to compile as much as you did
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> racecar, This is not the place for it to be honest.
[03:28] <racecar> ok well thx
[03:28] <racecar> bye
[03:28] <mjw65ss> Thats after 3 trys :)
[03:29] <genii> racecar: Conceivably, if it's something you're running under Wine or such
[03:29] <genii> Hm, too late.
[03:29] <mjw65ss> Ok thanks again deper29
[03:29] <deper29> mjw65ss: no probs
[03:35] <fishduck> can I press a F key in unity to create a new file?
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> fishduck, why don;t you try them and tell us.
[03:37] <fishduck> because I didn't want to accidentally delete my CPU. But don't worry, nothing happened ^^
[03:38] <mukti> I need a way to instantly sync files across two servers as soon as changes are made on one. Initially I thought of using NFS; however, if the NFS server goes down, the files are not accessible. Is there a solution that would duplicate files across multiple servers near-instantly (or at least within a reasonable amount of time)?
[03:38] <fishduck> mukti: check rsync
[03:40] <cfhowlett> fishduck, wait, we can delete a cpu?
[03:40] <mukti> fishduck: I had thought of rsync, but would I just set up a cron job to copy the files?
[03:40] <deper29> cfhowlett: yup. I deleted mine by accident last week. couldn't boot ever again.
[03:41] <cfhowlett> deper29, pretty sure that's impossible.  I'm guessing you deleted the OPERATING SYSTEM ... the cpu is (probably) still comfortably seated on your motherboard.  details matter.
[03:41] <fishduck> mukti: I think rsync does exactly what you want. A cron job however, does it on a schedule.. and its effect depends on how you implement the job.
[03:42] <deper29> cfhowlett: nope, I meant what i said. It was why I could never boot again. I deleted the cpu from my life forever.
[03:42] <hnhnhn> Hellllo
[03:43] <cfhowlett> deper29, uh huh.  you realize the cpu - central processing unit, i.e. it's a CHIP on your motherboard?  so you ... transported it to the neutral zone?
[03:43] <mukti> fishduck: okay, I'll read up on rsync more. I'm trying to implement this as a way to provide some sort of redundancy across servers (I'm going to have two servers running, and they need to always have the same files incase one goes down). Thanks
[03:43] <deper29> cfhowlett: no, this isn't star trek...
[03:44] <deper29> I just deleted it. You know, using an equivalent amount of anti-matter
[03:44] <genii> hnhnhn: Hello! If you have a support question regarding your Ubuntu, please just ask your question in the channel, so that someone may assist you.
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> just another dimension uh the 6th
[03:44] <deper29> or that
[03:44] <deper29> cfhowlett: I hope you knew I was joking...
[03:45] <fishduck> mukti: you could make a daily/hourly backup.. it depends on what you're up to. If a big file changes every minute, and rsync is unable to transfer just the small changes of it, perhaps rsync isnt the best idea.
[03:48] <mukti> fishduck: the only other thing I was thinking of was maybe some type of distributed parallel fault-tolerant file system
[03:48] <fishduck> mukti: do you need a real time backup, or what?
[03:49] <mukti> kind of. I'm trying to set up failover between two servers, and I want the data on one to be available on the other even if only one of them is up
[03:50] <wafflejock> mukti: how are you storing the data?
[03:50] <wafflejock> mukti: just curious if your using a DB engine for most of it, you may have better options available for replication in that case
[03:51] <mukti> wafflejock: right now, its just stored in a directory on the servers, nothing special
[03:53] <Mace268> Am I correct in assuming thew package updater has an error in the notification area because some ppa's haven't updated to saucy yet?
[03:53] <fishduck> mukti: if you use some kind of syncing software, and the files are many/big, they _will_ be out of sync and different versions will be presented by them. Sophisticated synchronization techniques could solve that though, but i.e. rsync does not do it.
[03:54] <fishduck> Mace268: you shouldn't get an error if there's no updates for your dist.
[03:54] <mukti> This is actually for a school project. I have owncloud set up on two VMs, and I was going to set them up for to failover; but I failed to think out how I would handle duplicating the data across the servers would work. I'm looking into other things like lustre or tahoe-lafs; but I'm not really sure if that is what I'm looking for, or if it is more complicated then what I really need
[03:54] <fishduck> Mace268: if you add "incorrect" ppas for your software updater however, it's plausible (I don't know). Show the error message.
[03:55] <Mace268> fishduck, i get some like this: "W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/brandonsnider/cdrtools/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found"
[03:55] <Mace268> they all worked in raring
[03:56] <fishduck> Mace268: quite straight forward. The ppa does not exist. That url is invalid because there's no release for saucy
[03:56] <wafflejock> Mace268: http://ppa.launchpad.net/brandonsnider/cdrtools/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[03:56] <wafflejock> Mace268: see how one has saucy and the other has raring
[03:56] <yeyeman> what does line 12 mean? http://files.aigamedev.com/tutorials/aap-AStarCode.png
[03:56] <wafflejock> Mace268: means they don't have a repo setup for your version yet
[03:56] <Mace268> ok that's what i thought, thanks for clearing it up.
[03:57] <wafflejock> Mace268: np yeah you can just try to load in a browser too, if it's giving you a 404 there you're not going to be able to get it basically
[03:58] <Mace268> i guess i can safely ignore the errors until saucy is set up in those ppa's
[03:58] <wafflejock> yeyeman: stackoverflow question not really suitable for the IRC I don't think... intriguing though
[03:59] <fishduck> mukti: it really depends on the kind of data and application.
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> Mace268, I would comment that out till it's there.
[04:01] <wafflejock> wilee-nilee: +1 better to just have it out for now
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:04] <fishduck> lotuspsychje: morning to you sir, how may I help you?
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> fishduck: tnx mate, no issues today
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> just letting you guys know i enabled wobbly windows in 13.04 by installing compiz-plugins-extra in ccsm, works flawless after reboot!
[04:07] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: nice always enjoy me some wobbly windows
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: me too, always loved that plugin (wobbly terminal : )
[04:07] <mukti> fishduck: I don't expect huge files. Maybe just a couple mp3s, some pictures, and a few text documents. It's really just to see if we can get a failover setup for two systems, and have data duplicated across systems as close to real time as possible
[04:08] <wafflejock> actually have a minor annoyance in kubuntu can't use Ctrl+Alt+KP4 or KP6 to snap to sides of the screen... need xbindkeys I think
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> !info compiz-plugins-extra
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> someone knows why they made this package extra and not default?
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> i read one day might have to do with this plugins eat memory to much?
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> It's a bit finicky many mess with it and don't know of the reboot or reset and loose the desktop and some have come crying here.
[04:10] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: yeah think just no need to bloat the system with stuff that isn't going to work well for everyone
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: yes indeed i had to reboot also, makes sense
[04:11] <Ziber> I have an ubuntu server, with bridged interfaces (p1p1 is the physical ethernet interface, and I have it bridged to xenbr0 for Xen VM connectivity). When bridging interfaces, they both shouldn't show up with an IP, right?
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> I used to to use the unity desktop and saved the config, I like it but use the shell now with synapse and the cairo dock.
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> there is a config save when you get it all tweaked
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: is cairo dock more stable then docky?
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> I like it better, not sure if more stable but more tweaking, I save a config of it to.
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: nice, ill try it
[04:14] <wafflejock> Ziber: basic understanding of bridging I would agree with what you're saying
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> Ziber: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know it aswell?
[04:16] <wafflejock> Ziber: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[04:17] <Ziber> When I added "iface p1p1 inet manual", I lost connectivity to the box. Which is sitting my house... 200 miles away :(
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: looking nice: http://www.deviantart.com/?q=ubuntu+cairo+dock
[04:20] <babinlonston> Hi All , What is Reverse proxy and what the use of it , in which environment i need it ? and when i need to configure a reverse proxy , How to do it in ubuntu ?
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> !proxy | babinlonston
[04:20] <wafflejock> Ziber: were you typing these commands directly into ssh console
[04:21] <wafflejock> Ziber: believe you told that interface to have no IP
[04:21] <babinlonston> ubottu: ???
[04:21] <Ziber> wafflejock: Well, yeah. You see my dilemma.
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, mines quite simple looking. http://imagebin.org/275701
[04:21] <wafflejock> Ziber: I do
[04:21] <wafflejock> Ziber: unfortunately I have no idea what you can do except relax until you get home
[04:22] <buu> Ziber: Can you power cycle the machine?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: very nice! i like minimal
[04:22] <Ziber> Not remotely. I'm gonna see if my parents will fix it for me. And if I get it back up, I'll put the VPN on a VM, so I'm not messing with the network of the physical machine.
[04:22] <babinlonston> hey i'm asking for configuring in my office man
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, me to I have the top bar recessed, the shell has a lot of nice extensions.
[04:23] <buu> Ziber: That's what I meant, the parent power cycle =]
[04:23] <wafflejock> Ziber: yeah power cycle should do you good since nothing was being updated in the actual networking files yet
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: ill try it in a bit, always loved ubuntu eye candy :p will match the wobbly windows
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> The shell has a wobbly window extension, but not as nice as the compiz one.
[04:24] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: I used to dig the burning windows and exploding windows and everything too but found it was too distracting ultimately.... wobbly is still all good
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: did you try it on 13.04?
[04:25] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: no haven't used them in a bit probably 12.04
[04:25] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: have wobbly on
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: cool!
[04:26] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: bummed about some of the keybinding issues in KDE it's the only down point I've found
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: yes, the compiz one is pretty stable
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: you on kubuntu?
[04:26] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: like need scripts to use the super key by itself and keypad mapping issues
[04:26] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: yeah
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> nice1
[04:27] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: went from 13.04 Ubuntu to Kubuntu, wanted to be able to customize, which I'm happy with but just bummed about a few of the keybinding issues
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> I used to have the cube and all the fun stuff in compiz, it did not work well on the transition to unity, but I think does again now to some extent.
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: hows the speed for you on 13.04 kubuntu?
[04:27] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: speed isn't really much of an issue, SSD and 2.4 GHz Quad-Core with 8 GB of RAM
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: never been able to run cube properly with unity myself
[04:28] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: any linux has plenty of headroom
[04:28] <fishduck> just simply want to  tar -c compressed.tar /some/dir   .. but I'm doing something wrong, now do I not?
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> 11 something it got funky if I remember, sort of
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: nice specs, what ssd brand you run on kubuntu?
[04:28] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: not much for a graphics chipset but really can't notice really any lag doing anything, booting the Win 8 Virtual machine takes about 10 seconds
[04:29] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: it's a crucial 128GB
[04:29] <wafflejock> always strapped for space
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: i still use an old transcend 8 gig slc on ubuntu 13.04 64bit, and goes rocketfast
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> sudo halt in 3sec
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> I think more would use the shell if they new of the extensions it is moving forward
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: indeed
[04:30] <soldierboy> wilee-nilee, how is it moving forward?
[04:31] <Hilikus> why isn't ubuntu persisting my nvidia-settings? i have 3 monitors attached but only use 1, every time i log in i have to re-disable the other two. I try apply and also "Save to x configuration file" but the settings are always lost after a reboot
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> soldierboy, Just getting better per edition and the independent users are making nice extensions, both unity and the shell are nice though.
[04:31] <wafflejock> Hilikus: believe you need to run nview as sudo for it to have write permissions to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> it sits under unity and compiz
[04:32] <Hilikus> wafflejock: when i do "save to x configuration" it asks for root password, i though it was doing it then
[04:32] <wafflejock> Hilikus: could be just a guess
[04:32] <Hilikus> i will try starting the process as root to see
[04:33] <itsnotlupus> dumb Q: just upgrade to 13.10, chrome refuses to start claiming it can't find libudev.so.0. libudev.so.0 is under /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ exactly where it should be. how would I get chrome to accept that simple fact?
[04:33] <wafflejock> itsnotlupus: take chrome aside and let it know you mean business and it's not getting any TV for a week
[04:33] <wafflejock> :)
[04:33] <itsnotlupus> but Chrome is how I watch all my TV :'(
[04:34] <itsnotlupus> no but seriously. tried ldconfig, no difference. it makes no sense.
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> itsnotlupus, Is it the latest chrome there was a missing something not long ago, I have not seen that complaint here in the last week.
[04:34] <itsnotlupus> fair point. maybe I need to download a new chrome and hope for the best.
[04:35] <the8thbit> My webcam doesn't work in firefox or chromium, but it does work on the desktop with cheese.
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> the8thbit: did you select your webcam in the flash window onsite?
[04:35] <wafflejock> the8thbit: yeah was going to ask how are you testing in the browser
[04:36] <wafflejock> the8thbit: Google Hangouts I haven't seen any issues
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> yeah check the adobe controls
[04:36] <wafflejock> the8thbit: but has their own plugin and controls
[04:36] <the8thbit> lotuspsychje, wafflejock: I tried this site: http://webcamtoy.com/
[04:36] <wafflejock> adobe settings defintiely would block but should ask for access too
[04:36] <the8thbit> It says I have a webcam, and the little light on my laptop turns on, but all I get is black
[04:37] <the8thbit> and I think I'm using the HTML5 version
[04:37] <the8thbit> so it shouldn't be an issue with flash
[04:37] <wafflejock> the8thbit: all I get is black there too but I have two webcams
[04:37] <the8thbit> Ah
[04:37] <wafflejock> the8thbit: may be getting my laptop one instead of the main one but may just be broken
[04:37] <wafflejock> the8thbit: maybe wait for a few more to chime in but didn't work here after allowing
[04:37] <the8thbit> Well, in flash sites, I can't interact with the little popup that asks for my permission
[04:38] <the8thbit> does anyone know what coursera uses for signature track? (flash/html5) That's why I need my webcam
[04:42] <beepie> the8thbit, chrome has the lastest flash
[04:42] <beepie> ,/latest
[04:44] <the8thbit> beepie: I'm using chromium, does that also have the latest flash?
[04:45] <xangua> the8thbit: no
[04:45] <Shaunt> Hey everyone, I'm having some trouble with my wifi. It'll connect to some signals, but with others it'll disconnect constantly or just repeatedly ask for a password. I'm on an HP Envy M6 using Ubuntu 13.04. Does anybody know how I can fix this issue?
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: tnx mate worked out great!! you made my day: http://oi44.tinypic.com/30wldmu.jpg
[04:48] <czhanacek> Hi everyone
[04:48] <czhanacek> So I managed to screw up one of our iMacs pretty well.
[04:49] <nucc1> hi, what user does cron run scripts as?
[04:50] <czhanacek> I dd'd to the wrong disk (accidentally) when cloning another disk, and that disk was my hard drive. My question is this: Can I just run a live cd to wipe the hard drive and then install Mac OS X fresh?
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, cool I like it that setup, it is in .config now to just add to any new install.
[04:50] <czhanacek> Currently, I can't do that from the Recovery OS because it was also trashed.
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: tnx for the hint!
[04:51] <xmetal> brb, trying to figure why my circuitry calculations are wrong again .. (and not even the same way they were wrong the first time)
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> hehe o prob
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> no*
[04:51] <cfhowlett> czhanacek, you'll have to re-grub / bootloader configuration
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> !cron | nucc1
[04:52] <czhanacek> cfhowlett: What is re-grubbing?
[04:52] <xmetal> going to the fridge for a second "fridge raid"
[04:52] <xmetal> :P sorry ... "ot " i know i know
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> That's why I never dd
[04:54] <wafflejock> czhanacek: do you have an OS X installation CD?
[04:54] <wafflejock> czhanacek: if you have that and Apple hardware I don't see why a clean install wouldn't work
[04:55] <czhanacek> wafflejock: Can't find it...
[04:55] <wafflejock> czhanacek: doing it on a hackintosh setup you just need a boot CD you use in advance of popping in the OS X setup disc
[04:55] <cfhowlett> czhanacek, grub tells the computer where to look when you boot.  usually, the last OS loaded writes the bootloader and ignores all the previous OS.  thus, install grub last or reconfigure if you install another OS
[04:55] <czhanacek> Also, I don't have a drive to burn dual-layer DVDs that all the Mac disks seem to be on.
[04:56] <wafflejock> czhanacek: you can order them this is what I started with to do a hackintosh setup http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A/mac-os-x-106-snow-leopard
[04:56] <czhanacek> cfhowlett: I'm not exactly looking to use Ubuntu long term
[04:56] <czhanacek> This was more to be an emergency setup
[04:57] <wafflejock> czhanacek: you may want to check out ubuntu while the CDz in the mail :), not sure what other alternatives you would have
[04:58] <wafflejock> czhanacek: if it's still under warranty maybe try to contact an apple store
[04:59] <czhanacek> Alright thanks wafflejock
[05:00] <wafflejock> czhanacek: np sorry it's not such a productive answer hope you get it worked out... dd is a double edge sword
[05:00] <cfhowlett> czhanacek, virtualbox is the way then
[05:04] <Shaunt> Hey everyone, I'm having some trouble with my wifi. It'll connect to some signals, but with others it'll disconnect constantly or just repeatedly ask for a password. I'm on an HP Envy M6 using Ubuntu 13.04. Does anybody know how I can fix this issue?
[05:04] <mjw65ss> deper29  Ok,I can now choose between LFS 7.4  and  Ubuntu 13.10 .  Now onto BLFS.
[05:04] <deper29> mjw65ss: BLFS?
[05:05] <deper29> also, was it as simple as editing /etc/default/grub? or did you have to dabble in /etc/grub.d?
[05:05] <mjw65ss> Part 2 has all the goodies to add to base LFS
[05:06] <mjw65ss> I just reconfigured the config file by adding the 13.10 location and menu entry in grub
[05:07] <mjw65ss> Yes it was a simple edit
[05:08] <mjw65ss> BLSF = Beyond LFS
[05:09] <mjw65ss> Then I can get a desktop going
[05:09] <deper29> mjw65ss: ah, I see. So did you have to grab kernel source from kernel.org then?
[05:10] <mjw65ss> No i built one
[05:10] <deper29> no, I know.where did you get your source from though?
[05:10] <deper29> to build
[05:10] <mjw65ss> err..configured and then compiled
[05:10] <deper29> no, I know that. But where did you download the stuff to compile?
[05:11] <mjw65ss> one3 sec
[05:11] <BradTN> anyone know why or have an idea why.. i made my raid 5 on ubuntu
[05:11] <BradTN> but cant write to it...
[05:13] <BradTN> not understanding why!
[05:14] <mjw65ss> Linux-3.10.10  and used menuconfig. I downloaded it from LFS
[05:14] <mjw65ss> ftp://ftp.lfs-matrix.net/pub/lfs/lfs-packages/7.4/      linux-3.10.10.tar.xz
[05:17] <deper29> mjw65ss: oh, cool. I didn't think they did it like that. I guess that makes sense though
[05:17] <deper29> anyway, I'm off to bed
[05:18] <mjw65ss> Thanks again Gnite
[05:23] <fishcooker> where is the /etc/grub.conf.. i want to give password on my grub
[05:23] <fishcooker> grub-md5-crypt
[05:24] <Thete> I'm trying to install 13.10 but the installer is sitting at "Running post-installation trigger update-notifier-common"
[05:24] <Thete> every time, multiple machines
[05:24] <ianorlin> did you check md5sum?
[05:24] <Thete> I'm assuming it's trying to get out to the internet to do something, but whatever the remote end is not responding
[05:24] <ianorlin> or do the self test on the install media
[05:24] <Thete> install media is fine
[05:26] <Thete> I remember this being an issue in previous versions as well, there was something you could do to get it to end the process and continue on
[05:26] <Thete> There a way to drop to a terminal during install?
[05:26] <xangua> hi everyone, after i upgrade ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 my bluetooth dongle stops being recognized, any suggestion on the issue?
[05:27] <Thete> Has something to do with update-manager trying to download something
[05:27] <Thete> and if you killed update manager it would continue on with install
[05:29] <Thete> Yep, that worked, thank you much :)
[05:35] <r000t> Hello. I'm having some issues adding a third monitor using my iGPU when two are already served by my NVIDIA card. I know the iGPU is turned on because Windows uses the third monitor, and because Ubuntu will display the splash, tty, and kernel messages on the 3rd monitor. The X server only displays on the first two.
[05:38] <BradTN> anyone plz
[05:39] <BradTN> help with a raid
[05:39] <BradTN> i beg!
[05:39] <cfhowlett> !raid
[05:39] <BradTN> im gonna blow my brains out over here
[05:39] <BradTN> i have it mounted
[05:39] <BradTN> but cant write
[05:39] <BradTN> nor figure out why...
[05:39] <FloodBot1> BradTN: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:41] <RudyValencia> Hi, I'm planning to set up Ubuntu on my desktop and I'm curious: do I need swap if I have 32GB RAM?
[05:41] <RudyValencia> If so, how much should I allocate?
[05:42] <ticamai> Rudy: With that much RAM, on a normal desktop machine, I doubt you will need swap for anything. I have 4gb of RAM with 4gb swap and can run multiple memory-heavy games at once, with no issues.
[05:43] <ticamai> rudy: If you want to allocate swap, I recommend the same amount of RAM you have, and maybe a tiny bit extra. I believe hibernation may require this, though i may be wrong.
[05:44] <BradTN> ticamai any raid knowledge?
[05:45] <ticamai> BradTN: I'm afraid not. I'm only still early in my RAID training in my job as a NOC technician
[05:50] <kalakadsn> is there any good application for photo viewer, i use gnome image viewer and it is working good only in one instance, when i open multiple windows of the program, cursor gets busy, and this is annoying, nautilus also behaves same, how to solve that, nautilus work fine when i click the icon on the unity panel and when i click icon on my dekstop, nautilus gets busy cursor
[05:51] <cfhowlett> kalakadsn, shotwell is a good viewer.   darktable is for a bit more advanced editing
[05:51] <cfhowlett> kalakadsn, but it sounds like your gpu might be a limiting factor.
[05:52] <xmetal> i use various viewers (just to try them) myself but for editing, i typically always go back to GIMP ..no matter which OS i am on
[05:52] <RudyValencia> So I need to allocate about 40GB to swap (ideally on another drive)
[05:52] <RudyValencia> ?
[05:52] <Waaan> Palembang
[05:52] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: why gpu is a limiting factor? when everything works fine in nautilus , when i click on the shortcut icon in panel(HOme)
[05:52] <Waaan> Gimana cara main di palembang
[05:52] <RudyValencia> (I'm going to be doing Android building on it)
[05:53] <cfhowlett> kalakadsn, what are your system specs.
[05:53] <cfhowlett> Waaan, mmmm ... english?
[05:53] <kalakadsn> a simple dual core cpu  2.2 ghz
[05:53] <kalakadsn> 2 gb ram
[05:53] <kalakadsn> intel integrated graphics
[05:54] <cfhowlett> kalakadsn, okay, so an older box with limited ram.  vanilla ubuntu used quite a lot of that.  I'd suggest you do a test.  sudo apt-get install xfce4 && sudo apt-get install lxde
[05:54] <iarinov> #zentyal
[05:54] <rawfodog> Im looking for a gui to edit my grub loader. I want it to skip the grub loader screen
[05:54] <rawfodog> or have the countdown time be 0
[05:55] <iarinov> fracking xchat connection procedures
[05:55] <iarinov> join in one tab, name of channel in other
[05:55] <genii> !info grubconf
[05:55] <genii> Hm.
[05:55] <cfhowlett> kalakadsn, logout.  choose a different desktop environment.  login.  see what you think.  If you like, xubuntu and lubuntu might be in your future.  and if you really want to immersed in photo editing, see #ubuntustudio
[05:56] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: when i open file browser from home icon on panel, then there is no problem, even when 10 windows are opened, absolutely no problem, but when i open file browser from desktop icon(Command nautilus) , cursor gets busy, that's it
[05:56] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: no, i don't like lxde
[05:56] <kalakadsn> it's fast but it is not what i lookinng for
[05:56] <kalakadsn> and unity is quite fast on my system
[05:56] <kalakadsn> i am not facing any laggings
[05:56] <wilee-nilee> rawfodog, gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub is the area and GRUB_TIMEOUT= is the time, but be aware if you set it to 0 you may not have access to grub at all.
[05:57] <BradTN> wilee-nilee can you help with raid??
[05:57] <RudyValencia> do western digital USB3 hard disks work on Ubuntu?
[05:57] <wilee-nilee> BradTN, Never touched raid.
[05:57] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: and i don't run too many applications at a time
[05:57] <BradTN> ive used other usb 3 disks on ubuntu fine
[05:57] <rawfodog> wilee-nilee, Id be able to fix it with a live cd thought right ?
[05:57] <rawfodog> ps, thanks
[05:58] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: i usually do file browsing, with internet browsing and chatting etc, sometimes along with music player
[05:58] <kalakadsn> otherwise , a movie player like vlc, with other applications off
[05:58] <RudyValencia> theirs use a "SES" interface along with the USB mass storage interface
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> rawfodog, with a chroot sure, not a good way to go, some can set it to 0 and still get grub I would test it and leave enough like 1-2 seconds, your choice.
[05:59] <kalakadsn> so, RAM is not a issue and CPU is never above 30-35%, so this is not a problem for me
[05:59] <rawfodog> Ill leave it at 1 I guess :)
[05:59] <wilee-nilee> rawfodog, You dual booting?
[06:00] <rawfodog> wilee-nilee,  nope
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> rawfodog, single install should bypass grub
[06:00] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: i tried lxde but it doesn't have any looks. I use dash to search for my favorite application, this is not in lxde and it is easy to find application in dash
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> rawfodog, Try sudo update-grub and see if still there.
[06:01] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: further PCMANFS doesn't have file search feature
[06:01] <rawfodog> wilee-nilee, I just changed it
[06:01] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: and file search is a big issue in ubuntu
[06:02] <cfhowlett> kalakadsn, that was my best guess.  nothing more to add.  ask again in channel
[06:02] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: hmm, thanks
[06:02] <wilee-nilee> rawfodog, run a sudo update-grub so it set and see if grub shows at all a single install should not show grub anyway.
[06:03] <rawfodog> ran the update. wilee-nilee, what am I looking for ? its at 0 still
[06:03] <kalakadsn> leave that,  is there any way to improve read write performance to the NTFS file system
[06:03] <kalakadsn> i am getting half the performance , as compared with Windows
[06:04] <Ari-Yang> rawfodog: check /etc/default/grub and the line #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true should be uncommented
[06:04] <Ari-Yang> rawfodog: actually, pastebin /etc/default/grub let me see it
[06:04] <kalakadsn> where to add feature request to ubuntu
[06:05] <wilee-nilee> rawfodog, On a single install grub should not show at boot, what other OS is showing when you run the update? Have you had a dual boot, or removed another OS?
[06:05] <genii> kalakadsn: The traditional way is to fie a bug report against the package which you would like to have the feature, with the title something like "Feature Request" or "Wishlist"
[06:06] <kalakadsn> genii: is there any direct mailing system
[06:06] <wilee-nilee> kalakadsn, This a shared ntfs for read and write?
[06:08] <genii> kalakadsn: Not really. Package maintainers ( groups or individuals) have emails but it is considered bad form to contact them directly in this way unless it concerns some dire issue, which a Feature Request is not
[06:08] <wilee-nilee> kalakadsn, ntfs faster writes  sudo mount -o big_writes /dev/sdXX /media/tmp  the XX's are the HD and partition
[06:09] <kalakadsn> wilee-nilee: i am using ntfs-3g and there are 2 partitions of NTFS and i tried NTFS-EXT4, ext4-NTFS, NTFS-NTFS, speed are approximately 15 Mb/s for writing, 18 Mb for reading
[06:09] <wilee-nilee> kalakadsn, My concern is this to the windows OS mainly.
[06:12] <Linus> ping
[06:12] <Ari-Yang> :|
[06:12] <Linus> recieved pong :)
[06:13] <Linus> Just popped in to see how things are going with ubuntu
[06:14] <BradTN> not good
[06:14] <BradTN> no one knows raid
[06:14] <cfhowlett> BradTN, most here are desktop users.  ask in #ubuntu-server
[06:15] <cfhowlett> !raid
[06:15] <Linus> raid isnt really ubuntu or Linux related
[06:15] <kalakadsn> how many of you use mobile-broadband, i mean wireless 3g modem and how many of you think, there should be native support to check prepaid mobile balance when people are on metered connections
[06:15] <cfhowlett> !poll|kalakadsn,
[06:16] <BradTN> Linus from tech tips
[06:16] <Linus> It was a poor attempt to make people think I was the god, lol
[06:17] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic
[06:17] <kalakadsn> i have a micromax mmx 352g 3g modem, and it is working well in ubuntu but i am not able to send USSD COMMANDs and check my data balance left . I tried Modem manager GUI, GSM USSD, Prepaid Manger, but none of them worked for me, they detect modem well, but when it come to receive USSD response, they fail
[06:17] <BradTN> lol
[06:17] <Ari-Yang> Linus: #ubuntu-offtopic is like a lounge
[06:17] <Ari-Yang> :D
[06:18] <cfhowlett> kalakadsn, suggest you contact the OEM on that.  sounds like they don't fully support linux
[06:18] <Linus> Im here to help if I can
[06:18] <Ari-Yang> Linus: that's fine too, but if you just want to chill as well feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:18] <Ari-Yang> well I'm off~
[06:22] <Linus> Not really of topic for support as it could help with future support help if it happened. What will happen if Debian chooses systemd ?
[06:23] <ianorlin> not sure
[06:23] <Linus> I can see it causing havoc with ubuntu
[06:23] <Linus> thats if they dont choose upstart
[06:24] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: yes, you are right, new manufacturer and their support is _____  , so no hope from them
[06:24] <kalakadsn> kalakadsn: their service is just a pain,  i am looking for the alternative, i should go with huawei at that time, but now i couldn't do anything
[06:33] <Linus> This channel used to be very busy
[06:33] <Linus> wheres mint chat?
[06:35] <BAMbanda> does anyone know of an irc app for the terminal
[06:35] <geirha> BAMbanda: irssi and weechat-curses are popular ones
[06:35] <BAMbanda> are they both available via apt-get?
[06:36] <Linus> BAMbanda you can use your terminal as an irc client you just need to know irc commands
[06:37] <BAMbanda> Linus, without install anything?
[06:37] <geirha> BAMbanda: Yes, those are the package names I listed
[06:37] <Hrakleaz> y
[06:37] <BAMbanda> Linus, you aren't linus torvalds are you?
[06:38] <Linus> BAMbanda you should without installing anything you will need to google some stuff though
[06:39] <Linus> BAMbanda No I was bored and thought I could trick people in to thinking it ;)
[06:39] <Linus> It worked but I got bored
[06:39] <BAMbanda> haha cool
[06:41] <Linus> ubuntu is dead
[06:41] <Linus> rip ubuntu
[06:42] <Linus> this channel used to be so busy , not looking good.
[06:42] <etfb> Is there a way to convert an Ubuntu system to Lubuntu without having to reinstall from a disk?
[06:42] <Linus> etfb yes there shoud be is it lxde?
[06:43] <etfb> Linus: I believe so.
[06:43] <etfb> I just installed Ubuntu 13.10 on a second-hand computer and it's too slow, but I can't make gnome-session-fallback work or switch off Compiz, so LXDE looks like the best option.
[06:43] <Linus> etfb then just install lxde from the repo. Removing unity might not be so easy but it shouldnt interfeer.
[06:45] <bazhang> lubuntu-desktop is the package etfb
[06:45] <Linus> etfb Ive done it with kde
[06:45] <Linus> no it isnt
[06:45] <etfb> bazhang: Aha! I was typing out a question to which that was the answer.
[06:46] <etfb> I couldn't find any package named lubuntu-*, but I was using the Software Center and it was slooooooow...
[06:46] <Linus> search for lxde
[06:47] <etfb> bazhang: Is it possible that the various *ubuntu-desktop packages are no longer included in the standard repos?
[06:47] <Linus> ^^ no bazhang is just wrong
[06:48] <bazhang> !info lubuntu-desktop | etfb
[06:48] <etfb> Linus: don't be rude. bazhang does a lot of selfless good work here. He/she deserves respect.
[06:48] <bazhang> etfb, you would need to update soureces.list first; sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:48] <Linus> ok sorry but try lxde
[06:49] <etfb> Linus: though if you're secretly THAT Linus, I guess that wasn't all that rude compared to your usual...  (I love Linus Torvalds, but man does he get grumpy...)
[06:50] <etfb> Trying both now.
[06:50] <Linus> etfb no Im not and yes he does. Got to love the guy though not just for what he created but his persona.
[06:50] <etfb> Linus: True.
[06:51] <etfb> So once it's installed (and yes, lubuntu-desktop does exist, and presumably loads LXDE as part of it, how do I make it the default? I remember something about having to manually enable a different login frontend.
[06:52] <bazhang> etfb, just select in the login window
[06:53] <d351r3d> What is the best way to download the repository for Ubuntu?  Debian has images that I can jigdo.
[06:53] <Linus> etfb its apt-get install lxde. I just did an apt-cache search an thats what came up.
[06:53] <etfb> bazhang: Oh cool. I've noticed that option appeared when I installed gnome-session-fallback (though the WM itself didn't work).
[06:54] <etfb> I wonder what the difference is.  Hmmm...
[06:54] <etfb> !info lxde
[06:55] <geirha> lubuntu-desktop is an empty package that depends on the lxde package, as well as the other packages that will be installed by a fresh lubuntu install
[06:55] <Linus> !info gentoo
[06:55] <etfb> Judging from the amount of stuff I'm getting through lubuntu-desktop, it appears that the -desktop one installs all the "standard" software, not just the basics of the WM.  Makes sense.
[06:55] <geirha> If you install only lxde, you'll be missing some packages you generally want
[06:56] <wafflejock> etfb: believe lots of the DEs have a -full package for getting it "all" in one shot
[06:56] <Linus> etfb you should have used lxde instead of lubuntu-desktop
[06:56] <Linus> ^^ using lubuntu-desktop your doing a Lubuntu install
[06:57] <d351r3d> Is there a somewhat easy process to getting all of Ubuntu repositories in one go or on dvd?
[06:57] <wafflejock> d351r3d: don't think all of the repo would fit on a DVD
[06:57] <etfb> Linus: I would rather get the full system, because then I don't have to deal with crummy apps that make certain assumptions about the WM they're running in.  It's nice to have the option, but for my 8-year-old daughter's computer this method makes more sense.
[06:57] <genii> d351r3d: The repositories are somewhere between 35-40G
[06:57] <d351r3d> Well 20+ dvds. I know.
[06:58] <Linus> etfb ubuntu is left behind
[06:58] <genii> d351r3d: You could use apt-mirror then copy all the files someplace else after
[06:58] <wafflejock> d351r3d: I have heard of programs for getting sets of packages together for an ISO but can't recall any names now, never tried myself
[06:58] <etfb> Linus: I know, but that's fine. This is still quicker than downloading, burning and installing a fresh Lubuntu system.
[06:59] <d351r3d> I'm not tripping on the size of the repository. I just know to me that it's mostly unknown to a mortal how to acquire it.
[06:59] <Linus> etfb maybe
[07:00] <wafflejock> genii: apt-mirror nice
[07:01] <wafflejock> genii: do you actively use this?
[07:01] <d351r3d> So apt-mirror is the way to go? Would it collect all of the repositories that are connected during?
[07:01] <genii> wafflejock: I've used apt-mirror previously to host a repository offline for computer labs which were not internet-connected
[07:02] <wafflejock> genii: cool... seems like it might be fun to do just for edutainment value... have a local mirror for doing setups faster too perhaps
[07:02] <Linus> Ive found the ubuntu mirrors hard to find. I tried finding the source for the ubuntu installer (forgot the name) ap....
[07:02] <wafflejock> currently learning the ropes on Grunt.js so one thing at a time but will try to stash that memory
[07:02] <geirha> d351r3d: #ubuntu-mirrors likely know the various way you can do the mirroring
[07:03] <babinlonston> Will DNS replace my system IP address by using my system name ? if i configured a Local DNS server ?
[07:03] <wafflejock> babinlonston: DNS only resolves a name to IP it doesn't replace the IP
[07:04] <babinlonston> wafflejock: then did i need to set the ip address for my host manually ?
[07:04] <d351r3d> Apt-mirror seems the way to go. I'll give it a shot after I jigdo the debian repos.
[07:04] <wafflejock> babinlonston: if you just want to change the setting for how you resolve a name locally you can use the /etc/hosts file
[07:05] <xino77> quick question. Is there a command to verify all packages in release is installed and if all packages are correct?
[07:05] <wafflejock> babinlonston: if you want everything on your network to resolve a particular name to a device then you'll want some sort of DNS
[07:05] <babinlonston> wafflejock: ok let me explain
[07:05] <chaotix> hey
[07:05] <Linus> babinloston What you mean by system ip? The world sees your router ip and no they cant route to your pc unless your router is missconfigured.
[07:07] <babinlonston> wafflejock: we have 20 ubuntu 12.04 client machines and a server , i need to get assign ip address automatically , every time it Don't need to rotate the ip other machine , how can i dot it
[07:07] <xino77> babin need to set that up at the dhcp server
[07:07] <babinlonston> Linus: I'm talking about local Ip address in my LAN
[07:07] <wafflejock> babinlonston: sorry don't understand why are you not using DHCP to assign addresses what does it have to do with DHCP?
[07:07] <xino77> and can set up the ip by mac address
[07:08] <xino77> or set up each machine with its own static ip
[07:08] <wafflejock> DNS rather
[07:08] <cloudgeek> open a port using iptables ? in ubuntu
[07:08] <wafflejock> babinlonston: yeah you use DHCP server to give out addresses
[07:08] <Linus> babinloston If you have that many machines that need to be public facing. You are in the wrong channel 2) You are useless
[07:08] <wafflejock> babinlonston: or assign static IPs per machine
[07:08] <babinlonston> wafflejock: will u please then explain what the need of DNS server ?
[07:08] <wafflejock> DNS is just to resolve a name to an address
[07:09] <wafflejock> so say you wanted to name them labComputer1 labComputer2 etc.
[07:09] <xino77> babin, DNS is domain name resolution.  Get's the IP of google.com or ubuntu.org
[07:09] <wafflejock> you would need DNS so you can reference by name to get the IP
[07:09] <wafflejock> xino77: example is good
[07:09] <babinlonston> Linus: close your trap , you too came to know and no one know every think by knowing new things only we can learn step by step
[07:09] <wafflejock> nslookup google.com
[07:09] <cloudgeek> where I can find the config file for iptables on ubuntu
[07:09] <wafflejock> resolves to <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:09] <wafflejock> ns lookup utiltiy does DNS lookup so finds the IP from the name
[07:10] <wafflejock> babinlonston: what you need is DHCP but all routers will do this basically
[07:10] <Linus> babinloston well said
[07:10] <babinlonston> wafflejock: you right i need to asign the name as system1 system2 likewise i need to assign for 20 computers in my lan
[07:10] <wafflejock> babinlonston: okay if the goal is to have them by name then you are going to want to be messing with DNS
[07:10] <wafflejock> babinlonston: but realize this doesn't affect the IPs
[07:10] <wafflejock> babinlonston: it only  resolves to them
[07:11] <Linus> babinloston what your asking depends on your router
[07:11] <xino77> any one here know of a console command to check if all packages of a distro are installed correctly?
[07:11] <babinlonston> ok
[07:11] <wafflejock> your router basically is probably handling the DHCP if you're currently able to get online with multiple machines and haven't touched any of the router configuration yet
[07:12] <wafflejock> babinlonston: anything you do within the LAN won't be really visible from the outside without setting  up port forwarding and having external authoritative DNS servers updated to reflect name changes but you should be able to configure your own internally
[07:12] <babinlonston> yes i have automatic ip assign from router , but i need to assign hostname as you said lab1 lab2
[07:13] <babinlonston> ok
[07:13] <fishcooker> is there grub-md5-crypt comman on grub 2?
[07:13] <Linus> fishcooker hi, why you asking?
[07:13] <wafflejock> babinlonston: I don't have experience with doing this myself so I'll have to defer to anyone else here but I would probably start here if you don't get answers https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[07:14] <fishcooker> i just want to our grub menu is not editable, Linus?
[07:15] <babinlonston> ok let me have a look
[07:15] <cloudgeek> I used on ubuntu 12.04
[07:15] <cloudgeek> Iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[07:15] <cloudgeek> iptables.save > /etc/iptables.rules
[07:15] <cloudgeek> still ssh port is not opened ??
[07:15] <FloodBot1> cloudgeek: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:15] <Linus> babinloston what do you need dns for on a lan unless its enterprise?
[07:15] <multivak> babinlonston: it seems to me you are gonna need ddns for that
[07:16] <wafflejock> Linus: I've thought about doing it at home before just for consistent name resolution
[07:16] <babinlonston> Linus: Don't need your help , many people's are here to help me
[07:16] <babinlonston> cloudgeek: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[07:16] <babinlonston> iptables-save > /etc/iptables.up.rules
[07:17] <Linus> wafflejock if your askig advice how to setup dns on a LAN I wouldnt  use it as their are ways to spoof it.
[07:17] <babinlonston> cloudgeek: sudo apt-get install iptables-persistent
[07:17] <babinlonston> cloudgeek: sudo service iptables-persistent save
[07:17] <babinlonston> cloudgeek: sudo service iptables-persistent restart
[07:18] <Linus> the debian way of controlling iptables annoys me Red hat rule :)
[07:18] <babinlonston> cloudgeek: no need of restart upto save is enough
[07:18] <cloudgeek> babinlonston: thanks
[07:18] <wafflejock> Linus: nope wasn't really asking for advice though now I am a bit curious what do you mean about spoofing it?
[07:19] <wafflejock> Linus: I'm just saying so people within my LAN can use certain computer names for connecting to devices (I do web development stuff nice to be able to show people stuff on their devices without configuration)
[07:19] <Linus> wafflejock its about spoofing IP or UDP packets bitt to out of depth for ubuntu chst
[07:20] <babinlonston> Linus: Don't think yourself a Linus Torvalds
[07:20] <wafflejock> Linus: just don't see how spoofing would be relevant in a LAN situation
[07:20] <babinlonston> wafflejock: thanks mate
[07:20] <wafflejock> babinlonston: sure thing best of luck
[07:20] <Linus> wafflejock I have some experience in hacking. Never think your unbreakable!
[07:21] <Linus> No Im not the real, Linus
[07:21] <wafflejock> Linus: I just don't get paranoid behind my router... on my home network
[07:21] <babinlonston> Linus: if you do it , its not hacking , its mean baking lol
[07:21] <IdleOne> Linus: Would appreciate if you drop the condescension and elitist attitude.  The programs are running fine, but their icons all the same.
[07:34] <wafflejock> jony_easyrider: okay the question was just stated in a weird way
[07:35] <wafflejock> jony_easyrider: the .desktop files have an icon defined?
[07:36] <wafflejock> jony_easyrider: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39394/change-icon-of-wine-application-in-unity-launcher
[07:36] <wafflejock> jony_easyrider: it looks like quite a few people ran into this if that's your issue... seen a couple askubuntu posts about it
[07:37] <wafflejock> jony_easyrider: I just depend on VirtualBox so wine stuff is mostly foreign ground
[07:40] <jony_easyrider> wafflejock, ty
[07:41] <wafflejock> jony_easyrider: np that work out?
[07:57] <thomson112> what's the best desktop environment to use on a laptop?
[07:58] <bazhang> thomson112, that depends on the laptop, and your tastes
[07:58] <jnhghy> I've just received a ssd hdd that I want to use for my laptop and it is quite cold... should I wait for it to get to a room temerature before using it or can I use it as it is?
[08:06] <laosan> hello
[08:08] <laosan> quit
[08:08] <Eques> netsplit
[08:09] <laosan> quit: Ex-chat
[08:12] <buu> So I just spent 3+ hours assembling a computer and I just screwed the case in, and I just realized it has two hard drives in it. What do you think the odds of the ubuntu 13.10 installer not actually crashing are?
[08:13] <wilee-nilee> buu, we betting on your skills or 13.10's stability?
[08:13] <wilee-nilee> hehe
[08:13] <sharnywoop> is it better to use the 'software center
[08:13] <sharnywoop> ' or sudo apt-get install?  which one will get you amore up to date program?
[08:14] <bazhang> no difference
[08:14] <wilee-nilee> sharnywoop, all the same repos use what you are comfortable with.
[08:14] <sharnywoop> crap really?   i've been listening to idiots...
[08:14] <cortexA9> hello
[08:14] <bazhang> !manual | sharnywoop
[08:15] <cortexA9> can i download old release of ubuntu ?
[08:15] <bazhang> cortexA9, how old
[08:15] <cortexA9> the first ubuntu ?
[08:15] <cortexA9> for testing
[08:16] <bazhang> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/  cortexA9
[08:16] <buu> cortexA9: Just download debian, it'll have about the same programs..
[08:17] <cortexA9> good thanks bazhang
[08:17] <jnhghy> is there an irc for hbcd?
[08:17] <bazhang> !alis | jnhghy
[08:17] <NGabi> Hi! I have a task in which I have  change the permission of the owners for their home directories. Then I am told that the GID of the folders should be right  set. What should I set the GID?
[08:19] <ripthejacker> If I have an unsolved problem about Ubuntu, where should I ask, askubuntu.com or ubuntuforums.org?
[08:19] <bazhang> ripthejacker, here and both of those
[08:19] <ripthejacker> bazhang: Ok thanks
[08:20] <helmut_> hi
[08:20] <ripthejacker> I have a .desktop file,  which when I try to run , fails silently.
[08:21] <ripthejacker> But when executing the 'Exec' entry from the command line, it works fine.
[08:21] <ripthejacker> And trying to open the .desktop with xdg-open opens the .desktop file in a text editor
[08:23] <you_> hello! is it best to install Oracle JDK or JRE first ?
[08:23] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/5172/running-a-desktop-file-in-the-terminal  ripthejacker as detailed here?
[08:23] <you_> *better
[08:25] <wilee-nilee> ripthejacker, can you right click then properties then navigate to the terminal in /usr/share/applications and have it open with it?
[08:25] <ripthejacker> bazhang: It's working that way, In short, the 'Exec' entry is not faulty
[08:25] <shadowflee> hey guys
[08:28] <ripthejacker> wilee-nilee: I cannot change the open with property of that file
[08:28] <ripthejacker> Actually It has no such property
[08:30] <wilee-nilee> ripthejacker, You had mentioned a text file openong thought maybe you could.
[08:30] <NGabi> What should a GID be when you change permissions for a folder?
[08:30] <ripthejacker> wilee-nilee: yes, by using xdg-open
[08:31] <ripthejacker> If i try to run that file in terminal directly , It parses the lines inside the file as shell commands.
[08:31] <juniour> hi how can i update my ruby ??
[08:33] <shadowflee> hey guys ?
[08:33] <jalcine> juniour: install rbenv
[08:33] <dan> Hi
[08:33] <jalcine> juniour: from the ppas
[08:33] <juniour> i need ruby 1.9.3
[08:33] <jalcine> juniour: sudo apt-get install rbenv
[08:33] <jalcine> juniour: saucy/13.10 comes with that version
[08:34] <juniour> jalcine im on ubuntu 12.04.3
[08:34] <BanjoFrail> hi there
[08:36] <yeyeman> sometimes the unity launcher does not appear from autohide
[08:37] <yeyeman> how to restart it?
[08:39] <jalcine> juniour: look into using rbenv
[08:41] <BanjoFrail> I want to remove an custom installed font, but I just dont know how. I searched forums, but wihotu any solution that worked for me. Can someone help me?
[08:41] <wilee-nilee> yeyeman, The right click and tab area where you clicked the hide has a pressure adjuster to show it.
[08:42] <cartusia> I keep trying to pay for more space
[08:43] <cartusia> but it is not allowing me
[08:43] <cartusia> in ubuntu One
[08:43] <cartusia> is it down?
[08:43] <FloodBot1> cartusia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:43] <cartusia> this has been true the past couple of days
[08:43] <wilee-nilee> yeyeman, There are unity compiz resets for release's look up your if needed.
[08:43] <wilee-nilee> your's*
[08:46] <wilee-nilee> BanjoFrail, Do you really need to remove it or just set what you want?
[08:47] <SMWim> hello
[08:47] <SMWim> I'm drunk
[08:47] <SMWim> as a skunk
[08:47] <SMWim> ufos are real
[08:49] <BanjoFrail> wilee-nilee: i want to replace the otf with ttf
[08:49] <Guest86861> My headphone is not showin in sound manager ! what should i do ?
[08:50] <multivak> SMWin: drunk on sunday? Really cool
[08:50] <SMWim> mondasy birtch
[08:53] <cortexA9> hello, how to suggests an idea for ubuntu ?
[08:53] <SMWim> SUXK ME DICK
[08:53] <wilee-nilee> BanjoFrail, Out of my general area, all I can do is google, which I did and see various instructions, not sure whivh refer to exactly what would work for you.
[08:53] <cortexA9> *suggest
[08:54] <wilee-nilee> which*
[08:55] <BanjoFrail> wilee-nilee: all instructions are about on specific folder where custom fonts are placed. but just not on my ubuntu
[08:56] <cortexA9> hello, how to suggest an idea for ubuntu ??
[08:58] <sharpnel> hello i was just wandering if is there any way to make ubuntu make every new file and folder created under my home directory with modes 0700?
[08:59] <cortexA9> is it possible to make a Teamspeak server for Ubuntu ? like ts.ubuntu.com
[09:00] <uncle_ben> so i buy and install a geforce 6200 for an older system with dual boot xp and peppermint (an ubuntu derivative)...booting into xp i see a splash screen, then nothing...booting into peppermint, i see nothing...booting system rescue cd, i can boot into X normally...what's going on?
[09:00] <skebcio> how can I change the user postgresql is run as ?
[09:01] <geirha> sharpnel: put ''umask 077'' in your ~/.profile
[09:01] <wilee-nilee> uncle_ben, neither supported here, you want to find a peppermint forumor channel.
[09:01] <sharpnel> geirha, thank you. it works
[09:01] <geirha> sharpnel: Note that files are generally not created with execute bit set, so files will end up with 600 and directories with 700 with that umask
[09:01] <daron> hello all
[09:02] <sharpnel> geirha, it is fine for me i just donw want others to see them
[09:02] <wilee-nilee> uncle_ben, or ##windows if you are registered with freenode
[09:02] <sharpnel> i regulary run chomd -R 0700 * on my home folder but it has beign very anoying
[09:03] <geirha> sharpnel: Another way is to simply   chmod 700 "$HOME"  Then it doesn't matter what mode the files in your homedir has, since no one will be able to read or enter your homedir
[09:03] <uncle_ben> wilee-nilee, it's a simple hardware question...has nothing to do with the underlying OS although it seems to work with system-rescue-cd which is gentoo-based
[09:03] <sharpnel> yep :P
[09:03] <uncle_ben> wilee-nilee, anyway, does it matter much?  the channel is slow
[09:04] <geirha> sharpnel: chmod -R 0700 is a bad idea. That'll make all files executable; only files that are meant to be executable should be executable
[09:04] <wilee-nilee> uncle_ben, maybe ##hardware than, it is just a channel norm is all, nothing personal.
[09:04] <uncle_ben> wilee-nilee, already on that channel...anyway, i don't think you should stress about it so much
[09:05] <xmetal> uh
[09:05] <wilee-nilee> uncle_ben, Heh, I'm not.
[09:05] <uncle_ben> k
[09:05] <sharpnel> geirha, it is true but since i had no problems till now and i have alot of source codes and stuff it works fine for me to have them executable
[09:09] <wilee-nilee> BanjoFrail, The repos are full of ttf fonts install what you want and use them, many install the restricted-extras to get the ttf-mscoreinstaller-fonts
[09:11] <excognac> ikonia: hi. the machine looks stable (i'm on it now)
[09:12] <BanjoFrail> in dotn understand, sry
[09:12] <cortexA9> sry changed idea, is it possible to make a Mumble server ?
[09:12] <BanjoFrail> but you mean i can just install them without removing the old one?
[09:12] <excognac> ikonia: but it had 4 kdesomtehing screens up upőon boot, blank bléack windows
[09:14] <wilee-nilee> BanjoFrail, Yes, probably easier to see them from synaptic install it sudo apt-get install synaptic and what desktop are you using?
[09:14] <BanjoFrail> iam using ubuntu since 1 week, i understand absolut nothing what your asking me
[09:16] <wilee-nilee> BanjoFrail, Ah, thats okay synaptic is a package manager, the command is for the terminal. The desktop is what you guided user interface is to use the computer.
[09:17] <buu> Can anyone point me at an easy way to get a single package+deps from 'trusty' if I'm on 13.10?
[09:17] <wilee-nilee> !manual | BanjoFrail this might help
[09:17] <BanjoFrail> thx
[09:18] <wilee-nilee> BanjoFrail, No problem, we want you to understand and have fun, but yes you can install fonts that you want and use them.
[09:18] <xx4h> "emits SOMETHING" in upstart can also be used for "stop on stopping SOMETHING" afterwards?
[09:20] <buu> Failing that, how the hell do I get broadcom wl to compile on ubuntu?
[09:21] <geirha> xx4h: For specifics about upstart, #upstart may be a better channel to ask
[09:22] <wilee-nilee> buu, you seen the broadcom wiki?
[09:22] <buu> wilee-nilee: No..
[09:22] <wilee-nilee> !bcm
[09:23] <xx4h> geirha, thx.
[09:23] <buu> Thanks
[09:23] <sajjad> I run this command: "nautilus -q" in terminal it showed this error: "sys:1: Warning: g_object_set: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed" what's the problem?
[09:24] <sajjad> is there anyone here?
[09:25] <buu> wilee-nilee: Oh, I have seen that. It doesn't really answer any of my questions. I need a more advanced version of the driver.
[09:25] <wilee-nilee> sajjad, why the -q
[09:25] <buu> So I either need to compile the broadcom one or get one from the next version of ubnutu
[09:25] <buu> ubuntu
[09:26] <sajjad> wilee-nilee, after adding an extension
[09:27] <tbird> where can i find the edubuntu wallpapers? i installed them from software center but they are not in my xfce desktop properties. where can i find them?
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: i tweaked things a little: http://oi43.tinypic.com/1zwg6xt.jpg
[09:36] <buu> Augh why won't this compile
[09:37] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, looks good more stuff, not the 3d look now.
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: yes i like it to stay ontop, so smaller and not 3d
[09:38] <Guest82464> does zram offers any performance on xubuntu with 2gb ram?
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: tnx again for hint, its very pro cairo dock
[09:39] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, Yeah I like it rather than all the panels, with synaptic its all I use.
[09:39] <wilee-nilee> synapse er
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: old skool mind :p
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[09:40] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, Yeah, I sort of adapted to the new desktops, I don't complain about them, lol.
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: me neither :p
[09:42] <eutheria> i was wondering if there is a server like lync for linux
[09:47] <wilee-nilee> eutheria, what server there is a search in your irc app most likely.
[09:48] <wilee-nilee> I misread that sorry, never heard of lync
[09:49] <eutheria> wilee-nilee: lync is a ippbx, with im and video conferencing,
[09:51] <wilee-nilee> eutheria, If you are registered ##linux may have some users that would know, if you get no answers here.
[09:53] <eutheria> wilee-nilee: thanks
[09:53] <eutheria> very quiet in here
[09:53] <zaq_> по русски где спикают?
[09:54] <wilee-nilee> yeah this channel is busier daytime us and european time basically
[09:54] <k1l_> !ru | zaq_
[09:54] <wilee-nilee> should pick up soon
[09:56] <zaq_> ubuntu-ru нет в списке каналов
[10:00] <zaq_> russian speake - where????
[10:01] <k1l_> zaq_: like the bot said to you already: #ubuntu-ru
[10:02] <moppy> eutheria, I assume you want something you can run in-house and can't use google apps for that?
[10:02] <zaq_> ubuntu-ru  - not in list!! russian speak - where????
[10:03] <moppy> zaq_, #ubuntu-ru
[10:03] <eutheria> moppy: does google apps do an ippbx?
[10:03] <zaq_> ubuntu-ru  NON IN LIST
[10:03] <eutheria> moppy: running inhouse is best,
[10:03] <moppy> eutheria, voip exchange server?
[10:04] <eutheria> moppy: and exchange runs on linux?
[10:04] <moppy> eutheria, they have pretty good video conferencing with hangouts: they use it internally themselves
[10:04] <Debolaz> Hmm.... I have a directory that's g+s www-data, but when I rsync into it, the files becomes owned by my own group. Is there any way to prevent this from happening? I thought the setguid bit would force ownership to a specific group?
[10:05] <eutheria> moppy: i guess i should get out of the mentality of doing it all myself
[10:05] <moppy> eutheria, i dont know of any traditional server that would do it on linux, but you might see if redhat has somethng
[10:05] <moppy> eutheria, or ask ##linux
[10:05] <moppy> eutheria, or just use google apps, it does it or they couldnt do it themselves internally
[10:07] <k1l_> zaq_: "/join #ubuntu-ru" to join that russian channel
[10:08] <eutheria> thanks moppy
[10:08] <moppy> i've told ubuntu-ru (in english) they have a refugee lost here, and come and pick him u pplease
[10:08] <Ben64> Debolaz: you've got something wrong, check everything
[10:08] <selig5> d
[10:08] <zaq_>  #ubuntu-ru - this is chanell in what server??
[10:08] <Ben64> zaq_: this server, just type "/join #ubuntu-ru"
[10:08] <k1l_> zaq_: in freenode
[10:08] <moppy> freenode #ubuntu-ru
[10:09] <moppy> hopefully he should vanish in a cloud of PMs :-)
[10:09] <zaq_> NO ubuntu-ru this servtr!
[10:10] <Debolaz> I hate Linux filesystem permissions. :P
[10:10] <k1l_> zaq_: this is not true. i just joined the #ubuntu-ru channel.
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> zaq_: #ubuntu-ru is a channel on the freenode server which also has the #ubuntu channel on, which you are in now
[10:11] <moppy> Debolaz, they're a bit arcane, and hard to manage with large systems. But permissions are quite complex and i don't thnk there's an easy alternative. Remember it has to work for small and large systems
[10:11] <s1nce> testip
[10:12] <Fecondo> Hello! I got a problem: I try to compile a package (nginx) from sources but only usr/share/docs seem to be put into that package. Doesn't anybody know what can be a problem and where to look for a solution?
[10:12] <Debolaz> moppy: It shares the same problem as early java did: It's so simple that it doesn't really work well for anything, and the workarounds you have to go through as a result are incredibly complex.
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> Fecondo: is there not a deb?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> !info nginx
[10:12] <caron_> l
[10:13] <moppy> Fecondo, are you saying the sources only have the docs and not the code?
[10:13] <Debolaz> moppy: Today, I learnt that the setgid bit on directories is useless, because it can be overridden and hence doesn't guarantee anything.
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> Fecondo: install using apt-get, why are you compiling?
[10:13] <Debolaz> moppy: And default behavior of rsync -avz is to override it.
[10:13] <Fecondo> moppy: I doubt it, there is also code, while compiling some .c files' names printing
[10:13] <moppy> i had to compile apache as i didnt like ubuntu's security options. i dont know what his use case is though
[10:14] <Fecondo> ActionParsnip: There is a deb with no binary executable (but exists in original package)
[10:14] <Fecondo> I'm getting sources by apt-get source nginx
[10:15] <moppy> Fecondo, is this a silly question, but how do you know it only builds the docs? did you check the paths, and do you on your system need sudo to install it?
[10:15] <sara_> why when i have a network speed of 16.6289062 Mbps am i not able to streem a bbc radio programme via iplayer
[10:15] <moppy> Fecondo, oh i've not sed apt-get source: i have no idea what it does. can you get the code from their repo?
[10:16] <Fecondo> moppy: After installing I didn't found it in FS, so I opened .deb as an archive and didn't find an executable there also
[10:16] <Ben64> Fecondo: you really should be using the repositories instead of compiling
[10:16] <moppy> not sure if there's supposed to be an executanle in a source deb.... just get the code form nginx's site/repo
[10:16] <Fecondo> Ben64: There is no way to install a module to nginx but compiling sources
[10:18] <Ben64> then find a ppa with the configuration you like? or use a different server?
[10:18] <zaq_> "/join #ubuntu-ru"
[10:18] <nii236|RPi> `/part
[10:18] <nii236|RPi> /part
[10:18] <Ben64> zaq_: without the quotes
[10:18] <Fecondo> Ben64: I didn't find ppa with this package. Using different server, heh? Amusing tip
[10:19] <moppy> Fecondo, http://wiki.nginx.org/Install#Source_Releases
[10:19] <Ben64> better than trying to compile something and trying to keep it updated
[10:19] <moppy> Fecondo, ppl here are afraid of compiling; if you get stuck try #nginx or something
[10:20] <Ben64> not afraid, but it can mess up the system
[10:21] <Fecondo> moppy: It happens to have its own repo... Cool, I didn't realize that. I'll try to deal with sources from their repo. Thank you.
[10:21] <moppy> Everyone who isn't nobody has their own repo these days
[10:22] <enyc> moppy: lol =)
[10:23] <k1l_> !register > zaq_
[10:23] <enyc> moppy: and many expeienced people seem to have given up on ubuntu as-is... hey-ho =(
[10:23] <moppy> i don't understand that
[10:24] <moppy> Ben64, can you try to get them to PM him in russian? it might be the only way
[10:24] <Debolaz> Would it be possible to use some other mechanism other than parentdir setgid to ensure the content of a directory is always owned by a specific group? ACL or something?
[10:25] <Fecondo> Ben64: "trying to keep it updated" - that's quite simple by the way, just use configuration management systems
[10:25] <Ben64> what? you'd need to recompile it for every bugfix
[10:26] <moppy> well it;s not hard once you done it once; make && make install, and go make coffee
[10:26] <Fecondo> Ben64: So what? You have to reinstall it for every bugfix. Difference just in minutes
[10:26] <moppy> s/you/you've
[10:26] <Ben64> well look at all the trouble you're having doing it once
[10:27] <moppy> Ben64, most packages are "clone from git (1 command); ./configure; make; sudo make install" and it;s done
[10:27] <Fecondo> Anyway, there is no way to install module to nginx dynamically, so we jsut must figure out a solution
[10:28] <Fecondo> as Nginx is a candy and almost an unique instrument
[10:28] <moppy> i've no experience with nginx, it's supposed to be faster and lower memory footprint than apache, right?
[10:29] <ljunggren> I can't start firefox unless "sudo firefox" how come? i haven't done anything really?
[10:29] <Fecondo> moppy: it's much faster there is load balancing etc
[10:29] <moppy> Fecondo, btw there are 500+ people in #nginx
[10:29] <moppy> Fecondo, probably >1 of them knows how to build it
[10:29] <Ben64> ljunggren: pastebin the error trying to run it from command line, and you should never run "sudo firefox"
[10:30] <ljunggren> ok
[10:30] <ljunggren> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/pvPqQ4Ap
[10:30] <Fecondo> moppy: Perfect, right, I'd better ask there
[10:31] <ljunggren> Ben64, basicaly "acces denied" lol
[10:31] <Ben64> are you on ubuntu?
[10:32] <ljunggren> Ben64, yes
[10:32] <moppy> ljunggren,  i had this discussion about a month ago with another python dev about whether or not you want to localise error messages :-)
[10:32] <moppy> ljunggren, we never agreed!
[10:33] <ljunggren> moppy, i don't really know what you are talking about lol
[10:33] <moppy> ljunggren, is when you write a program and translate all the menus etc into another language (localisation). do you do the error messages? if you do, it good for the user, but you no-longer understand their bug reports
[10:33] <Ben64> ljunggren: pastebin "ls -lad ~/.gnome2; ls -laR ~/.gnome2"
[10:34] <ljunggren> moppy, oh sorry
[10:34] <ljunggren> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/peL3jShv
[10:34] <moppy> if you dont the users cant fix it themselves. if you do, you cant fix it ;-)
[10:34] <ljunggren> it says
[10:35] <Ben64> ljunggren: well theres your problem, stop running stuff with sudo!
[10:35] <ljunggren> Ben64, what am i running with sudo
[10:35] <ljunggren> :(
[10:35] <Ben64> firefox i know for sure, but probably more
[10:35] <Ben64> if you absolutely need to run a graphical app with root privileges, which should be extremely rare, use gksudo
[10:36] <ljunggren> Ben64, i have ran "sudo nautilus" for copying into themes, i have run "sudo steam"  i think also.. but nothing else
[10:36] <Ben64> yep, don't do those
[10:36] <ljunggren> Sorry
[10:36] <Jeroi> hello
[10:36] <ljunggren> i didn't know it was bad for me
[10:36] <ljunggren> will stop now
[10:36] <Jeroi> I have problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/370875/workspeace-view-shows-first-workspaces-out-of-border-at-left
[10:36] <ljunggren> but how can i fix this?
[10:36] <Ben64> "gksudo nautilus" if you need, and you shouldn't need root for steam at all
[10:36] <marcx> hi, why is sudo bad?
[10:36] <Jeroi> Is there solution for this?
[10:36] <ljunggren> Ben64, it was giving me lot of headieachs
[10:37] <ljunggren> Ben64, i will never do it again swear!
[10:37] <ljunggren> Ben64, but is there a way to fix this easily?
[10:37] <Ben64> "sudo chown -R ljunggren /home/ljunggren/.gnome2"
[10:37] <ljunggren> no! i wont sudo again!
[10:37] <ljunggren> lol j/k
[10:38] <Ben64> sudo for command line apps, gksudo for graphical
[10:38] <ljunggren> Ben64, thank you thank you thank you! i was not aware of that
[10:38] <ljunggren> Ben64, gksudo gksudo. ..  will tatoo that one
[10:39] <Ben64> can actually prevent you from logging in under certain circumstances
[10:39] <ljunggren> Ben64, i think i have broken many ubuntu installs by NOT knowing this
[10:39] <ljunggren> because running lots os sudo nautilus etc
[10:39] <Ben64> yeah they should make it more apparent
[10:40] <ljunggren> ive heard of gksudo but never bothered about it ..
[10:40] <ljunggren> i will carry on this message
[10:41] <Okitain> Ben64: I'm not in on what you're talking about, what is it?
[10:42] <Ben64> Okitain: you should never use sudo for graphical applications
[10:42] <mojzesz> Hi all
[10:42] <Okitain> Ben64: I use gksu or kdesudo because X forwarding doesn't work otherwise, but what's the actual danger?
[10:43] <Ben64> Okitain: root can end up owning critical files or directories in your home, preventing things from working as they should
[10:43] <Myrtti> Okitain: files in your home directory that govern how stuff works after you login into your desktop session might get wrong permissions and so loading the session fails
[10:43] <moppy> solution is to run as root obviously :-) *hides*
[10:43] <Okitain> Ben64:  Oh, that? Yup, fixed those sometimes.
[10:44] <moppy> dont do that though!
[10:44] <mojzesz> I want to ask that can i during instalation of linux write commands to set correct place of instalation on hdd
[10:44] <ljunggren> ow i hate swedish bankid...
[10:44] <ljunggren> !
[10:45] <cfhowlett> mojzesz, of course.
[10:45] <cfhowlett> mojzesz, when you see the partition screen, you can choose where to put ubuntu
[10:48] <mojzesz> I have bad sectors at begin of hdd and i want to install linux in good part of disc
[10:50] <cfhowlett> mojzesz, ok.  hey when you disk fails, as it will, and soon, what are you plans?
[10:52] <moppy> install today, use until break, install again later
[10:53] <jiltdil> I have ubuntu 13.10 installed, when trying to connect through modem(BSNL broadband) it is not connecting, while using reliance usb modem it is working. How to resolve this. Thanks
[10:53] <cfhowlett> moppy, seems he took you at your word.  I'd have suggest install to USB
[10:56] <jiltdil> Any help guys
[11:01] <Paulus68_1> !patience|jiltdil
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> jilrun:   lsusb     use the 8 character hex id to find guides (I assume it is USB based)
[11:20] <Guest64270> hi! i'd like to set up a nas device using ubuntu, has anyone tried that?
[11:21] <sam113101> yes
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> Guest64270  i couldnt pick one for you https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+nas
[11:23] <Mike_H1960_> lol
[11:23] <Mike_H1960_> morning everyone
[11:28] <starnix> Hello people
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest64270: install openssh-server   and you now have an SFTP server, simples
[11:33] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:37] <purezen> Hey guys..! I am a long-time Linux user.. mainly of Ubuntu.. though until now I used to do a fresh install whenever a new version of Ubuntu showed up.. Right now, I am using 13.04.. and want to upgrade it to 13.10.. If I do it from the software center in 13.04.. what all shall I loose/face issues compared to doing a fresh install..? Thanks..!!
[11:38] <purezen> I mean *software updater..!
[11:40] <Squarepy> purezen, f.i. if yyou run out of space
[11:41] <BluesKaj> purezen. in the terminal , sudo do-release-upgrade , then you can monitor the actual upgrade to 13.10 , but using the update manager works just as well, it's your choice
[11:42] <BluesKaj> purezen. you won't lose anything ..I didn't
[11:43] <purezen>  Squarepy, BluesKaj : Hey..! No, space doesn't seem to be an issue..! I have aplenty..;-) Cool.. I will try do-release upgrade.. Only thing I am bothered with is that I have a lot of development stuff installed on my machine.. Ruby on Rails, Android etc.. I just dont want to run into issues with using that later..
[11:44] <Squarepy> then why upgrade :)
[11:44] <Squarepy> fresh install, move over, then burn the ships
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> well, I can no longer boot from USB or CD on this old laptop, so i'm stuck with a Frankenstein-Ubuntu I wish to replace
[11:47] <purezen> Squarepy, Oh.. I hope that the new kernel brings hardware fixes to my machine..;-)
[11:47] <purezen> Squarepy, I'll do that in that case..
[11:48] <jony_easyrider> tips for online free strategy games under Ubuntu (not wine)?
[11:50] <bgardner> MonkeyDust: Got any other laptop hardware around?  You could pull the drive, install Ubuntu in another laptop, then return it to your case after the surgery.
[11:52] <Snowie> hi all. not a buntu question but im struggling to find an answer. im on porteus and i can get sshfs set to amazon ec2 (only as root however) but when mounted if i select the folder i get an error "/path/to/folder/ does not exist" if i unmount it the empty folder opens fine. any suggestions where to troubleshoot next?
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> bgardner  tnx, found this... https://delightlylinux.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/installing-a-kernel-in-ubuntu/
[11:54] <Snowie> the amazon instance is Ubuntu lts, but from everything ive read the host setup only needs to support ssh, it is likely a client error, is that right?
[11:54] <Paulus68_1> MonkeyDust: http://askubuntu.com/questions/59347/is-it-possible-to-install-ubuntu-without-a-cd-or-usb-drive
[11:56] <xavkor> Hi, i'm running ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS using wubi alongside windows 8 and would like to dist-upgrade to 13.10 but when i issue the command update-manager -d it says 14.04 is available. how do i upgrade to 13.10?
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> xavkor  it's because wubi is not a Reacto l installation, it's not supposed to be upgraded, it's a windows application
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> real*
[11:59] <Snowie> can anyone recommend a good method to mount remote files on amazon ec2 ubuntu 12.04 locally for editing? is there a better option then sshfs?
[11:59] <buu> Snowie: Is there some reason you don't just ssh in and edit locally?
[12:00] <xavkor> =< guess i'm stuck with 12.04... thanks for explaining anyways =)
[12:00] <Snowie> buu: its a web server and i wnat to use highighted editor
[12:01] <Snowie> i have looked at options like c9.io but im not convinced it's as good as it says it is
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> xavkor: its supported longer than any other current release, no bad thing
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> xavkor: the -d is for (d)evelopment, the latest ddevel release is Trusty (14.04)
[12:02] <Snowie> buu: is there a method to open the remote file in the local editor?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> xavkor: you can edit a text file so that the inbetween releases are recognised, then run:  sudo do-release-upgrade     but if you have the LTS, why move?
[12:03] <xavkor> ActionParsnip: yep just that 13.10 has more up to date software...
[12:04] <buu> Snowie: I guess this is why most of us just learn vim =]
[12:04] <eugene_> HI everyone! I have a problem that can be described in few words like that: Nvidea, iMac, stuck.
[12:04] <[twisti]> hi, trying to update today i get an error with the jenkins package, apt-get upgrade says "1 not fully installed or removed.", and when i tell it to proceed "Setting up jenkins (1.538) ... chown: cannot access `/var/run/jenkins': No such file or directory"
[12:04] <Snowie> buu: yeah, something i have avoided for my whole linux career.
[12:05] <Snowie> buu: time to nerd up and get my hands dirty i guess
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> xavkor: but does Precise work for you?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: nvidia, not nvidea
[12:06] <eugene_> indeed
[12:06] <eugene_> =D
[12:06] <SmokingFreak> hi guys
[12:06] <eugene_> but anyway, does anyone know a solution, how to set it up properly for iMac?
[12:06] <buu> Snowie: Once you go vim you'll never go back =]
[12:07] <eugene_> I've tried various suggestions from the web, but non of them helped
[12:08] <buu> eugene_: You have an imac.. running ubuntu.. with a nvidia graphics card?
[12:08] <eugene_> I know it sound strange
[12:08] <buu> Is it an intel imac?
[12:08] <eugene_> but it wasn't my choice
[12:08] <eugene_> yes
[12:08] <eugene_> a brand new one
[12:08] <buu> So there's like, 1400,000,000 pages on the internet about making nvidia cards work with linux
[12:08] <eugene_> I know
[12:09] <buu> and?
[12:09] <eugene_> I've tried some of the suggestions
[12:09] <eugene_> and it didn't help
[12:09] <buu> Then perhaps you should ask more specific questions.
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: dos it have a model?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: does it use a switching GPU (Intel and Nvidia GPU)?
[12:10] <eugene_> of course it does have a model, it's Geforce 755M if I remember right, and yes, it uses a switching GPU
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: you will need to use Bumblebee to get some sortr of support for your switching GPU mess
[12:11] <eugene_> I have installed official nvidia driver from the repository following instruction I found on the web, including the one you suggest
[12:11] <eugene_> but it didn't help
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: you need bumblebee
[12:12] <eugene_> aha, so I need it even for accelerated graphics?
[12:12] <deveras> hi guys, need a bug tracker, what's the suggestions? I can't find bugzilla in the default repos
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: yes to manage the switching
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> deveras: if you subscribe to a bug, you will get emails when it gets updated
[12:13] <deveras> ActionParsnip: that's not what i'm looking for, i need a client where i can keep track of my own software bugs
[12:13] <deveras> client/app
[12:13] <eugene_> okay, I will try this. I've heart about bumblebee, though I thought it's GPU-specific and I should not need for simple tastks
[12:13] <buu> deveras: trac is pretty simple and popular
[12:13] <eugene_> thank you very much, guys!
[12:14] <buu> bugzilla is kind of over kill
[12:14] <deveras> will have a look, thanks
[12:14] <buu> There's also jira but it's not particularly open
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: the kernel will try and use it, so software is needed. Easier just to avoid the whole swapping debardcle altogether
[12:15] <xavkor> ActionParsnip: guess it should work..
[12:15] <deveras> buu: trac is a wiki, jira is commercial :S
[12:16] <deveras> surprised bugzilla is not there by default, are they commercial now? need to check
[12:16] <aFeijo> my crontab is no longer working!!! how can I investigate it?
[12:18] <tortal> i need gcc to run nicely so i virutalized xubuntu from windows - only experience in linux was installing LAMP and other putty stuff like python web servers etc.... NOW.. i want gedit, (or some other nice IDE i can work with C and gcc), but installing it from the software manager or whatever gives me some archaic version.. 2.x.. while one windoww it's 5.x atm. i followed instruction at
[12:18] <tortal> http://codelite.org/LiteEditor/Repositories#toc1 and added the saucy universe repo. now im getting some 3.x . So maybe there isn't even a 5.x ready in some repo. but im always perpexed to how apt-get makes it picks from the repo list.
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> tortal  Saucy has gedit 3.8.3
[12:21] <tortal> MonkeyDust: how do i get the latest then? and where can i probe for version numbers in apt-get ? the huge repo-list always perpexles me - i dont even know what saucy means
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> tortal  Sauce is the codename for 13.10 -- a repo is a software source
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> Saucy*
[12:22] <tortal> oh, so saucy is an ubuntu invention
[12:22] <tortal> like kitkat
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> tortal  it's just a name
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> tortal: its the codename for Ubuntu 12.10
[12:23] <tortal> i get it, but what abt apt-get . how does it make out what repo to download from
[12:23] <tortal> when having multiple in its sources list
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> tortal: just like WinXP is called Whistler and Vista is called Longhorn
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> tortal: the release name is in the file on each active line
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> tortal: read the files, you'll see
[12:23] <philinux> tortal: latest stable version is 3.10  https://projects.gnome.org/gedit/
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> tortal  scroll down to 'rpm.deb' ... http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide-to-linux.html
[12:25] <tortal> lsb_release -a gives me 13.10 but still saucy
[12:25] <tortal> i figues that it's still "saucy" then
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> tortal  yes, Saucy is the more fancy name for 13.10
[12:26] <tortal> someone said 12.10, that's why i reacted
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> must have been a typo
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> tortal  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> tortal: yes, and if you read /etc/apt/sources.list     each line will have 'saucy' on it
[12:27] <aFeijo> my crontab is no longer working!!! how can I investigate it?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> aFeijo: check the cron log
[12:28] <purezen> Hey guys! I am using Ubuntu 13.04 and want to try a newer kernel on my computer.. Can I do it? Will I run into trouble..?
[12:28] <aFeijo> ActionParsnip, in /var/log? let me check
[12:28] <tortal> ActionParsnip: get it - does this mean that it will always default to the codename closest to itself when doing apt-get install ?
[12:28] <tortal> let
[12:28] <manisabri> I'm using 13.04 , recently all windows leave ghosts on wallpaper and I found out if I disable the framebuffer in OpenGL in ccsm the problem is kind of solved , except I dont have any wallpaper anymore , any ideas?
[12:28] <tortal> let's say there's a wheezy there aswell
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> purezen: you can run any kernel you can install but we can only support the kernels for your release from the official ubuntu repos here]
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> tortal: by default, apt-get etc will only pull in packages from 'saucy' sources (in a saucy install)
[12:29] <excognac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6358506/
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> tortal: then you will get issues as mixing debian and ubuntu packages causes problems
[12:30] <tortal> ActionParsnip: how so? debian can't be saucy right?
[12:30] <tortal> i mean, non ubuntu debian
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> tortal: no, its a different distro
[12:30] <purezen> ActionParsnip: Hey! Thanks for informing.. Though, can you tell from your experience if it shall cause serious issues..
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> tortal  debian and ubuntu are similar, but not the same - or a different name would not be needed
[12:31] <tortal> yes, i've been running clean debian for servers before but always very high-level on the web server or so
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> tortal: differnet packages have different dependancies, so you will make a mess of your packages
[12:31] <excognac> sry wrong channel
[12:32] <tortal> im aware of the differences of the distros . i just don't know the inner workings of debian. always been a script-kiddie you see
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> tortal: the guys in #debian will tell you all you want to know about debian
[12:33] <tortal> ActionParsnip: thx, i came here mainly for the question about saucy etc. and how apt-get priotizes it
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> tortal  methinks you're on the verge of discovering a new world
[12:33] <tortal> MonkeyDust: :), it's funny.. i know fluent python, php and java et al. but NEVER touched UNIX hard core or even c/c++
[12:34] <tortal> im such a script kiddie
[12:35] <tortal> i really want to read K&R ansi C.. but the web didnt even exist back then.. i wonder if there still is a point... like a cultural one
[12:35] <manisabri> ghosts on wall paper , disable framebuffer in CCSM solves the ghost problem but no wallpaper and slow , any idea?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> manisabri: use a different WM ;)
[12:38] <manisabri> WM ? ; )
[12:38] <cfhowlett> windows manager
[12:38] <manisabri> hmmmm
[12:39] <manisabri> it was ok till last week, I tried to ignore it but its really ugly !
[12:41] <manisabri> and why framebuffer? it seems it fails to clear the framebuffer because the ghosts are still there even after logout/login
[12:42] <purezen> Also, guys.. which kernel shall 13.10 use..? Is 3.12 planned for it..? I know it uses 3.11 atm.. but have seen some links mentioning 3.12 for the same..
[12:43] <bekks> purezen: 3.11 is the kernel used in 13.10
[12:43] <bekks> !mainline | purezen
[12:44] <k1l_> purezen: no, there is no kernel upgrade wanted in the regular (non lts) releases
[12:44] <mole_> lç
[12:44] <purezen> bekks, k1l_ : Thanks guys..!
[12:51] <Untouchab1e> is Ubuntu using systemd yet?
[12:51] <k1l_> Untouchab1e: not as default. upstart is the default init system
[12:52] <Untouchab1e> ah ok
[12:52] <Untouchab1e> will be interesting to see what Debian decides to do, but Ill put my money on systemd
[12:52] <minimec> Untouchab1e: No. It is however using some additional components of systemd like logind.
[12:53] <Untouchab1e> Debian probably wont go for Upstart due to CLA
[12:53] <k1l_> this discussion will suit better into the offtopic channel: #ubuntu-offtopic since this topic is very controvers
[12:53] <Guest34155> Всем привет!
[12:53] <Untouchab1e> gotcha
[12:54] <Untouchab1e> My question was really just what Ubuntu is using, and now I know
[12:54] <Untouchab1e> thanks
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[12:54] <k1l_> !ru | Guest34155
[12:54] <Guest34155> Можете помочь с AverTV Studio 507?
[12:54] <k1l_> Untouchab1e: feel free to discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic . we try to stick to technical support in here
[12:56] <loa> hello, after some uptime my screensaver stop working...
[12:56] <loa> after reboot all works again
[12:56] <loa> i have 13.10
[12:56] <loa> can somebody confirm such behaviour?
[12:56] <k1l_> loa: no
[12:56] <ActionPa1snip> loa: are there any bugs already reported on Launchpad?
[12:56] <Myrtti> loa: had you used VLC before it stopped working?
[12:57] <ActionPa1snip> loa: which screensaver are you using?
[12:57] <k1l_> loa: see the logs what happend there
[12:57] <loa> ok, then i go learning how to debug screensaver.
[12:57] <loa> thx :)
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> is a screensaver still needed on modern screens?
[12:58] <kakakal> hello everyone, i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS, i enabled hibernate and it is saving successfully , but i think that itt is simply restarting instead of hibernate, how to quickly resume session from hibernation
[12:58] <loa> MonkeyDust, blank screen is ok.
[12:58] <loa> MonkeyDust, where is your nick name?
[12:58] <loa> i remember it from somewhere...
[12:58] <loa> nostalgy about something.
[12:58] <loa> where from *
[12:59] <kakakal> i want to improve startup time of ubuntu, because it is taking longer than Windows, it should perform better (Atleast equal to )than windows on same hardware, isn't it?
[12:59] <jpds> kakakal: #ubuntu-boot.
[13:00] <OerHeks> !bootchart
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> Kabaka  some tips: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4653463/ubuntu_speed.txt
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> kakakal   some tips: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4653463/ubuntu_speed.txt
[13:02] <ActionPa1snip> kakakal: different OSes boot differently
[13:03] <kakakal> MonkeyDust: what these lines are doing, i have preload already installed
[13:03] <ActionPa1snip> kakakal: you can always disable startup services you don't use
[13:03] <kakakal> ActionPa1snip: yes, but more  people will move to linux, if it provide better speed and hardware support
[13:03] <Guest271> Hi, on Xubuntu 13.10 Live CD, ''bzr branch lp:ubuntu/saucy/ubiquity'' returns error ''bzr: ERROR: Revision<EMAIL_ADDRESS>not present in "Graph(StackedParentsProvider(bzrlib.repository._LazyListJoin(([CachingParentsProvider(CallableToParentsProviderAdapter(<bound method CHKInventoryRepository._get_parent_map_no_fallbacks of CHKInventoryRepository('http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/ubiquit
[13:04] <kakakal> ActionPa1snip: yes, i have disabled like printer, bluetooth etc
[13:04] <ActionPa1snip> kakakal: more the hardware support, boot time is quite transient as once the OS is booted, it is done, you only boot once
[13:04] <kakakal> and didn't disabled what i do not know
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> Guest271  next time, better use pastebin for such pastes, describe the issue in human words in the channel
[13:05] <kakakal> ActionPa1snip: thanks, but i want to enable hibernate and it is enabled but not seems to working, to resume quickly, i need hibernation, instead of sleeping
[13:06] <ActionPa1snip> kakakal: why do you 'need' it?
[13:08] <kakakal> ActionPa1snip: either startup should be improved or hibernation should work to resume work quickly
[13:10] <BCTv> #ubuntu-кг
[13:10] <cfhowlett> kakakal, if you REALLY want that to happen then (1) choose hardware from the Certified Ubunut List or (2) petition your hardware builder to support linux.  Otherwise, wait patiently until someone hacks it for you.  for free.
[13:10] <BCTv> #ubuntu-ru
[13:11] <cfhowlett> !ru
[13:11] <kakakal> MonkeyDust: it is popping out a error while i pasted a command in terminal that there is no file or directory in/etc/default/prelink, tell me what to do, should a made a file or directory there
[13:13] <kakakal> MonkeyDust: udo: /etc/cron.daily/prelink: command not found
[13:13] <kakakal> MonkeyDust: how to solve that
[13:14] <makara> hi. I'm looking for a simple file encryption tool to store passwords BUT it should just encryption the whole plain text collection of usernames, passwords, URLs, etc. I don't want to create hundreds of fields, and try to organise them, etc. Anything?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> !keepass
[13:14] <ActionPa1snip> kakakal: so you 'would like' it to work, there is a difference between that and 'need'
[13:14] <makara> BUT
[13:14] <kakakal> MonkeyDust: i made a file  named in the /etc/default/
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> kakakal  install prelink, first
[13:14] <reisio> makara: you could just put a text file in a 7z archive
[13:14] <makara> i use keepass already and I've had a look at others. They all do separate fields
[13:15] <kakakal> okay
[13:15] <kakakal> sudo apt-get install prelink ??
[13:15] <reisio> kakakal: ask ap t-file
[13:15] <reisio> apt-file, even
[13:15] <makara> reisio, I thought of that, but then every time I want to see the passwords I would be creating a plain text field on disk, which I must remember to delete, etc. Not such a good way to do passwords.
[13:17] <reisio> makara: not necessarily, but it's something you'd have to take into account, for sure
[13:17] <reisio> makara: y'know if you choose your passwords algorithmically, or formulaicly, you only have to remember the formula
[13:18] <Guest61179> Hello, I am  trying to fix one minor bug in launchpad,  I committed my fix, pushed my branch to launchpad, linked the branch to the bug, Could anyone please tell me whom should I subscribe ?
[13:20] <sinkensabe> hi, I have an utf-8 error in /etc/environment which means that terminal does not handle åäö. And unfortunately my user password includes an å. The consequence of this is that I cant access sudo and fix the problem.. any ideas how I can get around this?
[13:20] <flyn4x4> is this a problem with just me or do i need to be concerned about it? when running apt get updates this is what i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/6358707/
[13:21] <ActionPa1snip> flyn4x4: medibuntu is no more and should be removed
[13:21] <reisio> sinkensabe: mmm
[13:21] <flyn4x4> ok thanks
[13:21] <reisio> sinkensabe: can you copy & paste it in?
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> flyn4x4  FYI: http://www.medibuntu.org/
[13:22] <sreedevi> Hello, I am  trying to fix one minor bug in launchpad,  I committed my fix, pushed my branch to launchpad, linked the branch to the bug, Could anyone please tell me whom should I subscribe ?
[13:22] <sinkensabe> reisio, the error?
[13:22] <reisio> sinkensabe: no, the character
[13:23] <sinkensabe> Å
[13:23] <sinkensabe> reisio, Å
[13:23] <sinkensabe> reisio, å
[13:23] <reisio> sinkensabe: can you paste it into your term
[13:24] <sreedevi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/secure-delete/+bug/1245415- This is the bug link
[13:24] <sinkensabe> reisio, no it return a questionmark
[13:24] <sreedevi> Ubottu: Can you please help me?
[13:24] <reisio> sinkensabe: okay, can you try copying your password in plaintext into a file on the system, then using cat file | sudo -S foo ?
[13:25] <kakakal> MonkeyDust:  Hi, i installed but i have chrome installed,
[13:25] <sreedevi> ubottu: Whom should I subscribe to get the bug fixed?
[13:25] <kakakal> there is no file or folder named  In /etc/chromium-browser/default
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> kakakal  yes, chrome != chromium-browser, so that tip may not be valid for you
[13:27] <sinkensabe> reisio, no didnt work
[13:27] <kakakal> MonkeyDust: what does prelink do actually, i have preload installed but i haven't seen any improvement in the chrome but see a lot of improvement in libreoffice and gimp
[13:27] <reisio> sinkensabe: well, might be simplest to fix it from a live OS, then
[13:28] <sinkensabe> reisio, hmm ok
[13:28] <sreedevi> ubottu: Thank you
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> kakakal  "Description-en: ELF prelinking utility to speed up dynamic linking The prelink package contains a utility which modifies ELF shared libraries and executables, so that far fewer relocations need to be resolved at runtime and thus programs come up faster."
[13:28] <ActionPa1snip> kakakal: could set vm.swappiness lower, how much RAM do you have?
[13:29] <etoile> tchat francais ou pas
[13:30] <cfhowlett> !fr|etoile,
[13:30] <kakakal> ActionPa1snip: i set it to 5
[13:30] <kakakal> as mentioned in the file
[13:30] <kakakal> i have 2gb of ram
[13:31] <kakakal> previously it was at 60 and i changed it to 20, mentioned somewhere on the internet
[13:31] <sinkensabe> reisio, in the command you proposed, what should "foo" be, the file ? might have used it incorrectly
[13:32] <reisio> sinkensabe: foo would be the command that comes after sudo
[13:35] <ActionPa1snip> kakakal: how much swap space did you setup?
[13:35] <kakakal> ActionPa1snip: it is of 3gb
[13:35] <ActionPa1snip> kakakal: thats good
[13:36] <kakakal> but it remains free most of time
[13:36] <kakakal> some KB there in the Swap space are used
[13:36] <sinkensabe> reisio, it worked! many thanks!
[13:36] <sai-shanahansai> how many of you guys use preload and would say it's good and worth it and works?
[13:38] <ActionPa1snip> sai-shanahansai: id say the benefits were slim now
[13:39] <ActionPa1snip> sai-shanahansai: the kernel disk caches things in RAM already
[13:40] <sai-shanahansai> ActionPa1snip, hm interesting. thanks
[13:41] <ActionPa1snip> sai-shanahansai: if you run:    free -m     you will see how much RAM is used for disk cache. there is a page called 'linux ate my ram' which explains it
[13:41] <ActionPa1snip> !atemyram
[13:41] <ActionPa1snip> sai-shanahansai: Windows does similar
[13:41] <ActionPa1snip> sai-shanahansai: unused RAM is wasted RAM :)
[13:42] <geirha> kakakal: Have you modify the swap partition after the initial install?
[13:42] <kakakal> geirha: no
[13:43] <kakakal> geirha: should i set it much higher or lower
[13:43] <sai-shanahansai> ActionPa1snip, nice, makes sense, thanks again, i'll keep it in mind
[13:44] <kakakal> geirha: SWAP remains free almost all the time, after changing VM.SWappiness something to 20 , now 5
[13:45] <ActionPa1snip> kakakal: yes, thats the percentage it will keep apps in RAM :)
[13:45] <gbear> hi im having a issue with ubuntu 12.10 and eggdrop
[13:46] <kakakal> ActionPa1snip: we should keep it to high, only then apps will work fast
[13:46] <streulma> Android people in the house ?
[13:46] <sreedevi> I have committed a fix in launchpad, Could anyone please verify it?
[13:46] <sreedevi> This is bug link:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/secure-delete/+bug/1245415
[13:47] <kakakal> ActionPa1snip: when ram is available then we should keep them in the RAM for a fast system
[13:48] <wylde> sreedevi: You may want to ask in #ubuntu-bugs
[13:48] <kakakal> let me restart and try, how much performance boost i got, after installing prelink and as suggested by MonkeyDust
[13:52] <ActionPa1snip> kaktuskuchen: that is default
[13:52] <kaktuskuchen> ActionPa1snip, huh?
[13:53] <sreedevi> wylde:Thank you so much :)
[13:55] <gbear> anyone can help with installing TCL on ubuntu server? when i go to set up eggdrop its telling me there isnt any  C compiler found
[13:55] <ikonia> gbear: then you need a compiler, not tcl
[13:56] <gbear> ok so what do I need to do to install it
[13:56] <gbear> when i installed the image it didnt ask me what extra packages I wanted to install
[13:56] <gbear> also its installed in a virtual machine
[13:57] <TonnyNerd> I am trying to enable ssl on apache2, but 'a2enmod ssl' gives me 'ERROR: Module ssl does not exist!' on a fresh ubuntu 12.04 install. The ssl.{conf,load} files are nowhere to be found. Any ideas what is happening?
[13:57] <TonnyNerd> And dpkg -L apache2.2-common lists /etc/apache2/mods-available/ssl.conf as one of it's files. But it's not there
[13:58] <TonnyNerd> I tried reinstalling it. Didn't helped, the file is still missing
[13:58] <TonnyNerd> (also, maybe it's worth noticing it's a LXC container, although I don't think it makes difference)
[13:58] <geirha> gbear: apt-get build-dep eggdrop   will install the packages necessary for building the eggdrop package from the repository
[13:59] <ikonia> TonnyNerd: have you actually got the ssl module installed ?
[13:59] <gbear> ok
[13:59] <TonnyNerd> ikonia, What package would that be?
[14:00] <TonnyNerd> It says here (http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/apache2.2-common/filelist) the file should come with the apache2.2-common package, which I already installed
[14:00] <zero_coder> hello , my disk usage analyzer is showing 100% disk usage even though nothing much is running. and this is pretty much freezing my computer at times
[14:00] <ikonia> TonnyNerd: no idea without looking, but add expect mod-ssl, or apache-ssl or something like that
[14:00] <zee> how do I install a locale, thats not on the server?