[00:07] <lordl> Hello! Someone using WeChat?
[00:07] <lordl> The Chinese app.
[00:08] <genii> Are you having an Ubuntu support issue which involves the application WeChat?
[00:09] <lordl> genii, well, no.
[00:09] <lordl> genii, it's off-topic.
[00:09] <genii> !ot
[00:09] <lordl> I know.
[00:12] <Gerowen> Is there a way, post installation, in Ubuntu server, to bring up that little menu that lets you select pre-configured setups for various services like nextcloud, rocketchat, etc.?
[00:12] <Gerowen> In olden days it was "tasksel", but I see Ubuntu has moved onto something else.
[00:15] <tomreyn> Gerowen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel#Usage_.28alternative.29 https://askubuntu.com/questions/252056/should-i-use-tasksel-tasks-in-apt-or-install-regular-metapackages
[00:15] <genii> Gerowen: There should still be install images with the old installer
[00:26] <hexen_16> Hello, I have a question. What is the best IDE on Ubuntu?
[00:28] <Bashing-om> !best | hexen_16
[00:28] <OerHeks> !ide
[00:28] <OerHeks> https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-linux-code-editor-top-10-reviewed-compared/ .. there is no single best, depends on your coding i guess
[00:34] <hexen_16> I see. I'll check out that link. I need a good one for web development though.  Especially considering my drives are SSD, lol
[01:30] <laptop> luks does not do twofish cbc correct?
[01:30] <OerHeks> one sets encryption during creating user indeed
[01:30] <bpords> its worth noting that these days RPM doesnt mean anything for HDD performance
[01:30] <OerHeks> but now it is running, do not hit crtl + c
[01:30] <laptop> I have a fijitsu 40 gb
[01:32] <laptop> if I encrypt the hd will it be really slow
[01:32] <OerHeks> well, it won't be faster
[01:32] <laptop> lol true
[01:32] <bpords> because nearly all HDDs nowadays are in the 5400-7200 RPM range, but two HDDs with the same RPM can have different performance
[01:32] <OerHeks> that encryption is what i am interesting in
[01:33] <laptop> ok but how to test without encrypting first
[01:33] <bpords> so benchmarking the read/write speed of the HDD is a better idea than looking at the RPM
[01:35] <laptop> how
[01:38] <newdimension> I'm trying to kill firefox using htop I select the process > press k > press 9 (for SIGKILL) > press enter.  I'm just curious as to why I cant kill it using htop. What I did is search for all firefox processes and press space to select them.  I'm on 18.04.02 running on virtualbox (latest version). I keep running out of memory even though I've allocated 7gb. I only run (1) firefox (2) Pycharm (3) hexchat. I keep seeing xorg using up 43%
[01:48] <newdimension> right now after a fresh restart I'm at 2.71GB.  Is it possible to take an 80gb hdd (usb) and put all the different ubuntu distros on it, have it boot into that hdd and you can select which of the distros to either run a livecd session or install from? Does that make sense?
[01:52] <fleabeard> basically have multiple livecd distros all on one external usb hdd
[01:52] <tomreyn> wouldn't this be a lot more convenient in a VM?
[01:53] <newdimension> fleabeard: Possible yes, makes sense no. Like tomreyn suggested use a VM and connect a sharefolder to it. That way you can have the same data in all distros
[01:53] <newdimension> *shared folder
[01:54] <newdimension> In temrs of how to do what you want, you'd install all distros on the same HDD and configure grub's boot menu
[01:54] <OerHeks> all you need is a bootable mini iso, for all desktops
[01:54] <OerHeks> & internet
[01:56] <fleabeard> newdimension, so I would have to actually install each os individually (like full install?) or can I just have there livecd functionality available from a grub menu?
[01:58] <newdimension> I meant full install, now that I re-read your question I realize that you probably find something to make a live CD with options. I don't know how to do that
[01:59] <fleabeard> reason I ask is I have a lot of pc's in my house and a lot of my family are open to running linux, but there are so many flavors of ubuntu I'd rather not have to fool with them individually and having all the ubuntu distros on one external would make my life easy
[02:00] <dorian> hey, wondering if something in 18.04 has changed with respect to sockets in /tmp
[02:00] <dorian> i just upgraded a vps and now fastcgi scripts that were running as daemons on a unix socket have stopped working in apache
[02:02] <fleabeard> I'm guessing my only option is via YUMI
[02:04] <shachaf> I've always set volume with `pactl set-sink-volume 0 ...`, but suddenly the sink's number seems to be 1 instead of 0. How does this work
[02:04] <shachaf> ?
[02:07] <shachaf> I guess it has the symbolic name "auto_null" (?) and I can use that.
[02:25] <R13ose> How do I zip in command line without seeing the file listed?
[02:28] <Gerowen> R13ose: As in you want to create a .zip archive, or extract one without seeing all the output?
[02:28] <Harlin> R13ose: eh?
[02:29] <R13ose> Gerowen: create a .zip archive of my home folder with all the hidden files too.
[02:29] <R13ose> hidden files and directories
[02:33] <Gerowen> Reading the help thing.  For future reference you can usually get all kinds of good info from a command by adding --help to it.
[02:33] <Gerowen> zip --help
[02:33] <Gerowen> And in this case it has a page 2, zip -h2
[03:01] <MrGizmo757> Hello. I have a question. I noticed new ISO's of 18.04.2 come with kernel 4.18. But my existing install after updates is still on 4.15. How do i get the newer kernel on my existing install?
[03:02] <krytarik> !hwe | MrGizmo757
[03:02] <chenggege> hello
[03:02] <MrGizmo757> Ok. thanks. I was thinking that was the answer. I just wanted to be sure before i did it.
[03:05] <eraserpencil1> tomreyn: are you here
[03:06] <chenggege> maybe not
[03:09] <eraserpencil1> In /etc/default/grub,  I have and entry "acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2015\"".
[03:09] <eraserpencil1> However, on boot, it shows as acpi_osi=! acpi_osi="Windows 2015". My escape characters went missing. Would I need to escape my escape characters?
[03:11] <krytarik> eraserpencil1: No, that's the expected outcome.
[03:12] <eraserpencil1> to facilitate discussion, what do you call the page that appears after pressing 'e' at oot
[03:12] <eraserpencil1> boot
[03:13] <eraserpencil1> grub terminal?
[03:13] <krytarik> Nope.  Boot editor perhaps.
[03:13] <eraserpencil1> okay.
[03:16] <eraserpencil1> So if my boot editor dosent have the escape characters, I dont have keyboard control on my laptop afterwards. I tried adding the escape characters manually in the boot editor and then it works fine.
[03:17] <eraserpencil1> Am i troubleshooting this correctly? Feels so wrong to add an escape character for an escape character to appear in the boot editor, but I dont know of a better way
[03:21] <R13ose> I can't zip files in file manager, and says: unable to run the command specified.  the zip does not exist.  How do I fix this?
[03:21] <Bashing-om> eraserpencil1: The grub command line should be as - "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" quiet splash" - . In the grub file one must escape that space.
[03:22] <eraserpencil1> R13ose: https://askubuntu.com/questions/660846/how-to-zip-and-unzip-a-directory-and-its-files-in-linux
[03:23] <Bashing-om> eraserpencil1: correction ,, "acpi_osi=Windows 2012" quiet splash . that final " omited .
[03:24] <R13ose> eraserpencil1: if I use command line, will -r let me zip hidden files and folders too?  Also how do I not see all the contents of what is zipping?
[03:29] <eraserpencil1> Bashing-om: are we talking in /etc/default/grub or in the boot editor
[03:29] <R13ose> I think I figured that out -q
[03:30] <eraserpencil1> R13ose: sorry, I was reading the manual for zip. I think you need  "--system-hidden" flag
[03:31] <eraserpencil1> but if you got it, then good
[03:31] <R13ose> Oh okay
[03:36] <Bashing-om> eraserpencil1: ^^ is for the kernel boot line in the boot editor. in the /etc/default/grub file escape the space between the quotes: In /etc/default/grub you'll need to *escape* them thus: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=... \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\"    because the kernel command line needs quotes around the entire parameter due to the space in the name.
[03:41] <krytarik> eraserpencil1: Since by adding the escape characters in the actual boot parameters, you are effectively crippling the "Windows 2015" bit, I wonder though if you really need the parameter at all.
[03:45] <eraserpencil1> krytarik: i realised it crippes the WIndows 2015 bit.... and yea i have fought with the laptop for a long time to even install ubuntu on this laptop. Windows 2015 is needed
[03:46] <eraserpencil1> Bashing-om: I just realised you meant acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\"
[03:50] <Bashing-om> eraserpencil1: The tutorial: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html .
[03:51] <eraserpencil1> i need to bookmark this. TJ was helping me weeks ago and i couldnt find this page. have been trying to make sense of https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.html
[03:54] <eraserpencil1> anyway, i have to go soon. but before that, I'd like to get an opinion if I should spend more time on fixing the errors i see in my dmesg
[03:54] <eraserpencil1> https://termbin.com/u70u
[03:57] <ravenlos> I am having issues getting OpenDNS familyshield working
[03:58] <Bashing-om> eraserpencil1: I would think getting the correct DSDT would go a long way on resolving the errors.
[03:59] <eraserpencil1> Bashing-om: it is wrong?
[03:59] <Bashing-om> eraserpencil1: Scooting out here also .. Good luck (study hard).
[04:00] <eraserpencil1> krytarik: Bashing-om: alright thanks for the help
[04:12] <fleabeard> hey guys, I've got a folder with a ton of files in it that follow a naming convention of 'blah blah - 01-01-1990.doc'. When I view this folder in my File Manager, it's not sorting them from oldest to newest obviously because of the text preceding the date in the filename. Is there a way I can list these files newest to oldest in a termainl perhaps? With some sort of goofy linux terminal switch magic?
[04:13] <fleabeard> s/termainl/terminal
[04:14] <fleabeard> the last 10-digits of every file has the date format, so '01-01-1990' (includes the -'s)
[04:15] <eraserpencil1> fleabeard: you could make a backup directory of it first and expriment with the backup
[04:16] <eraserpencil1> https://askubuntu.com/questions/677044/rename-multiple-files-in-terminal
[04:16] <fleabeard> eraserpencil1, well the directory is 500Gb heh
[04:16] <R13ose> eraserpencil1: --system-hidden doesn't work on ubuntu
[04:16] <fleabeard> and sadly I don't have enough supplemental  disk space to create a backup of it :(
[04:17] <eraserpencil1> fleabeard: or create a dummy folder with a similar naming structure and try
[04:17] <fleabeard> also, I'm not really looking to rename them, just list them in a ascending/descending order if possible
[04:17] <fleabeard> sorry if I was unclear
[04:18] <eraserpencil1> fleabeard: if you're using the gui, there should be options to sort by modified date/creation date
[04:19] <de-facto> ls -1 | tac | sort -n | tac
[04:19] <fleabeard> eraserpencil1, yes, but the date I'm trying to sort by isn't a parameter like modified/creation date. It's listed in the filename itself.
[04:20] <de-facto>  eraswroencil1
[04:20] <fleabeard> just at the end of the filename with text that proceeds it, so 'some file 01-01-1990.doc' and 'some file2 01-02-1990.doc' etc.
[04:20] <eraserpencil1> R13ose: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12493206/zip-including-hidden-files
[04:20] <eraserpencil1> i guess try with or
[04:21] <eraserpencil1> -r
[04:21] <R13ose> Yes but can I do -qr?
[04:24] <R13ose> I did -qr before a d seems to not have gotten all files and directories zipped up.
[04:24] <de-facto> fleabeard,  did you try something like "ls -1 | rev | sort -n | rev" ?
[04:24] <R13ose> GUI is better but not working.
[04:25] <fleabeard> de-facto, that appears to be doing some sort of sort on either created/modified date, yeah?
[04:26] <de-facto> it lists one file per line "ls -1" note its number one, then it reverses that string "rev" and sorts them numerically "sort -n" then reverse the strings again back to orig
[04:26] <eraserpencil1> R13ose: I tried and it works
[04:27] <R13ose> Only -r or -qr?  Do I need sudo or not?
[04:27] <R13ose> eraserpencil1: ^
[04:27] <eraserpencil1> zip -qr <name of zip>.zip <file/path/to/directory/>
[04:28] <eraserpencil1> what are you zipping up?
[04:28] <R13ose> Let me try without sudo
[04:28] <R13ose> Home directory
[04:29] <fleabeard> de-facto, I think this is close but not quite there yet
[04:29] <eraserpencil1> I actually have to run, perhaps someone else could help you
[04:29] <Mystified1234> no right click ubuntu applications
[04:29] <Mystified1234> how to enable
[04:29] <fleabeard> oh wait, that's a 1
[04:29] <fleabeard> not an l
[04:30] <de-facto> fleabeard, if i was you i would copy a small representative portion of your files in a directory to experiment with scripting so its fast and without risk
[04:30] <de-facto> use the power of bash, sed, grep ...
[04:31] <fleabeard> yeah, I'm still new to linux so I've got a lot to learn lol
[04:31] <de-facto> its good investment of time, it will make you much more powerfull/faster with computers :)
[04:32] <fleabeard> I'll do as you suggested with a small copy to represent the files and play around some more.
[04:36] <de-facto> there is a lot on stackoverflow you can find with google, especially scripting, pattern matching, bash, sed, grep, awk
[04:36] <Mystified1234> when right clicking on myRight handed mouse function, nothing pops, in a browser i Can drag a link into the address bar.
[04:36] <de-facto> its very nice to learn and many ppl already find examples which you can adopt and tweak to your needs
[04:37] <fleabeard> de-facto, here's a small example of the files and how the dates are in the end of the filename > http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tkGtpp4FSs/
[04:37] <Mystified1234> works ok in terminal..'
[04:37] <Mystified1234> not raelly anywhere else
[04:41] <de-facto> fleabeard, so that should work with the sample i gave you i guess, but if its not consitently named you might want to make a list from "ls -1" with sed e.g. "ls -1 | sed '/mach your pattern/build entries with your maches/' | sort -n
[04:42] <de-facto> then you have a sorted list with first colum of your matched dates and second colum of the full file names sorted and you can pull the full file names out of the second column
[04:43] <de-facto> ah yeah you have to put the year first, then the month then the day
[04:46] <fleabeard> idk man, I think I may be in over my head with this one lol
[04:49] <fleabeard> here is how I was hoping to have them list btw > https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/DfKWWkcd3C/
[04:49] <fleabeard> oldest to newest contingent of the date listed at the end of the filename
[04:52] <de-facto> fleabeard, something like this maybe? echo "Nightmare LT - 09-14-1935" | sed 's/\(.*\)\([0-9]\+\)-\([0-9]\+\)-\([0-9]\+\)$/\4-\3-\2\t\1\2-\3-\4/' | sort -n | cut -d"$(printf '\t')" -f2
[04:52] <fleabeard> let me give that a try
[04:52] <de-facto> its just quickly hacked together with sed
[04:53] <de-facto> so you would    ls -1 | | sed 's/\(.*\)\([0-9]\+\)-\([0-9]\+\)-\([0-9]\+\)$/\4-\3-\2\t\1\2-\3-\4/' | sort -n | cut -d"$(printf '\t')" -f2
[04:54] <fleabeard> on that last one there I got an error> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `|'
[04:54] <de-facto> that matches the date at the end and constructs a list with year-month-day<tab><original name> to sort it and then uses just the second column "cut ..." to get the orig filename
[04:54] <de-facto> oh yeah there are two pipes
[04:55] <fleabeard> gawd, my fam gonna think I'm sort of hacker with all this s/\(.*\) stuffs lol
[04:55] <de-facto>  ls -1 | sed 's/\(.*\)\([0-9]\+\)-\([0-9]\+\)-\([0-9]\+\)$/\4-\3-\2\t\1\2-\3-\4/' | sort -n | cut -d"$(printf '\t')" -f2
[04:55] <de-facto> its a regular expression
[04:55] <fleabeard> hey that worked!
[04:55] <de-facto> glad to hear :)
[04:56] <fleabeard> let me give that a try on the server to see if it sorts them too!
[04:56] <de-facto> no guarentee though, its just quickly hacked together, so you should be careful with that
[04:57] <fleabeard> dang, didn't work that well on the server though, hmm
[04:58] <de-facto> you can play with https://regex101.com/ if you like to tweak the regexp
[04:58] <fleabeard> oh that's pretty cool, I'll give that a try too
[05:00] <de-facto> btw there is also #bash here on freenode :)
[05:01] <fleabeard> thanks for all your help, gotta run get my daughter from work
[05:02] <DOSfan> I'm using Ubuntu 16.04.5 (newest kernel 4.4.0-142-generic) .. I just finished the UPDATE and it's nice to see a clean up of older linux header files.  the latest upgrade removed like 32,000+ files.  Allot of good things got updated this time too ... impressive :)
[05:44] <anon19> hi i can get help here?
[05:46] <krytarik> anon19: Sure, just ask away.
[05:51] <anon19> i have a lenovo z50 which i installed ubuntu on. But i cannot even run commands like sudo get-apt install build essential due to gcc,g++ dependencies
[05:51] <anon19> and has no wifi driver
[05:51] <anon19> etc
[05:53] <anon19> it has no gcc,g++ or dpkg-dev
[05:53] <anon19> krytarik, you there?
[05:53] <krytarik> Pastebin any actual error messages on that.
[05:54] <krytarik> And knowing what Ubuntu release you are on may help too.
[05:55] <anon19> 18.04
[05:56] <anon19> krytarik, https://pastebin.com/RkyRYitk
[05:58] <krytarik> Try to install any of the mentioned dependencies and see what that tells you then.
[05:59] <DarkByD3sign> To clarify you are using Ubuntu 18.04?
[06:00] <anon19> krytarik,https://pastebin.com/TeUwq4SS
[06:00] <anon19> yes
[06:02] <DarkByD3sign> Is it a brand new install, you've not messed with anything?
[06:02] <anon19> yes
[06:02] <anon19> its brand new
[06:02] <anon19> i have done nothing
[06:03] <DarkByD3sign> Hmm..
[06:05] <krytarik> anon19: Run "sudo apt-get update" and then try again.
[06:05] <anon19> any thoughts guys?
[06:05] <anon19> wont work
[06:05] <anon19> will link paste sec
[06:06] <anon19> https://pastebin.com/Jeik4Q0G
[06:06] <anon19> here you go :0
[06:06] <krytarik> Also: "sudo apt-get -f install"
[06:08] <anon19> nothing happened
[06:08] <anon19> anon@anon:~$ sudo apt-get -f install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. anon@anon:~$ ^C
[06:08] <krytarik> Switch to the main server for now.
[06:10] <anon19> how do i switch to main server?
[06:10] <anon19> krytarik, how do i swicth to main server :)?
[06:13] <krytarik> anon19: "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://p80.pool.sks-keyservers.net:80 --recv-keys 11E9DE8848F2B65222AA75B8D1820DB22A11534E" - to try and fix the key error there.
[06:14] <krytarik> (Source: https://weechat.org/download/debian/ → Install instructions)
[06:15] <anon19> i ran the instruction says imported
[06:16] <anon19> krytarik what do i do with debian?
[06:16] <DarkByD3sign> debian is the operating system that ubuntu is based on.
[06:16] <anon19> so i gotta install debian?
[06:17] <krytarik> anon19: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Download_Server
[06:18] <samanta> Hi could anybody help me out to solve the ssl handshake failed error while launching pulse secure vpn un ubuntu 14.04 64 bit laptop?
[06:19] <anon19> kryartik, so i should download repository from a different server i.e the main server which is upto date
[06:19] <DarkByD3sign> Anon19, to clarify is this a virtual machine or have you actually installed it on your computer?
[06:20] <anon19> computer
[06:20] <anon19> no vm
[06:20] <anon19> btw which is the main server?
[06:20] <anon19> is it any server in the US?
[06:20] <krytarik> It's actually called "Main" there.
[06:21] <anon19> i opened software and updates
[06:21] <anon19> download from
[06:21] <krytarik> And this is because your Indian mirror seems to have issues currently.
[06:21] <anon19> goot it
[06:21] <anon19> *got it
[06:23] <anon19> tq for not being racist :D, i try to hide my ethnicity as much as possible
[06:23] <anon19> ok i have switched to main server
[06:24] <anon19> kryartik, it attempted to download some software but that failed
[06:24] <anon19> what do i do next?
[06:24] <samanta> Hi could anybody help me out to solve the ssl handshake failed error while launching pulse secure vpn from ubuntu 14.04 64 bit laptop? It was working fine before a recent update. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
[06:24] <anon19> rerun the commands?
[06:24] <krytarik> anon19: Did you "update" afterwards yet?
[06:25] <anon19> DarkByD3sign, your name is hard to type :S
[06:25] <DarkByD3sign> samanta, if you post your issue I'm sure somebody will come to you as soon as they can.
[06:25] <DarkByD3sign> Just type Dark then press the tab button :P
[06:25] <anon19> krytarik: same issues after i update
[06:25] <anon19> DarkByD3sign: ooh
[06:26] <anon19> krytarik: would you like pastebin?
[06:26] <krytarik> anon19: "-f install" again too.
[06:26] <anon19> -f install said 1 not upgraded
[06:27] <anon19> krytarik: anon@anon:~$ sudo apt-get -f install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[06:27] <DarkByD3sign> try and install something now anon19
[06:27] <DarkByD3sign> sudo apt install vlc
[06:28] <krytarik> anon19: "dist-upgrade"
[06:28] <krytarik> DarkByD3sign: Please no.
[06:28]  * DarkByD3sign will be quiet.
[06:28] <anon19> ok
[06:28] <anon19> could you say exact command
[06:29] <anon19> krytarik: exact command please :)
[06:29] <krytarik> "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:29] <anon19> no errors
[06:30] <anon19> krytarik:
[06:30] <anon19> krytarik: normal update now?
[06:30] <krytarik> Well yeah, now you try again what you wanted to do to begin with.
[06:31] <anon19> krytarik: update doesnt work
[06:31] <krytarik> Did you fix the WeeChat repo key error yet then?
[06:31] <anon19> trying build essential
[06:32] <anon19> krytarik: when i ran that command it gave me no errors
[06:32] <anon19> krytarik:  i dont know what you mean
[06:32] <krytarik> Well, if you still get any error messages, please pastebin them.
[06:33] <anon19> krytarik: build essential did not return any errors
[06:34] <anon19> krytarik: but build essential did not fix my wifi adaptor not found issue
[06:34] <anon19> krytarik: thats why i was doing it to begin with
[06:35] <anon19> krytarik: https://pastebin.com/hJFpcSuW
[06:35] <anon19> update errors
[06:37] <krytarik> Ugh, that's unfortunate..
[06:38] <DarkByD3sign> Could he just update the sources?
[06:39] <krytarik> What do you mean exactly?.. >_>
[06:39] <anon19> sources.list?
[06:40] <DarkByD3sign> I'm no expert but the issue is when he is updating and trying to install things and he is getting the hash error, could he update his list of sources so it perhaps looks at more updated list or something.
[06:40] <DarkByD3sign> Anon19 where did you download this copy of Ubuntu, the website?
[06:40] <anon19> DarkByD3sign: yes from the website
[06:43] <krytarik> DarkByD3sign: That's what we tried by switching the update server, assuming it's simply the one currently used having issues.
[06:44] <DarkByD3sign> anon19, are you behind a proxy?
[06:44] <thanos> hi
[06:44] <anon19> no
[06:45] <DarkByD3sign> Hi thanos
[06:45] <anon19> DarkByD3sign: but it could be my ISP
[06:45] <anon19> DarkByD3sign: my ISP uses a login system
[06:46] <DarkByD3sign> Run this - sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get autoclean
[06:46] <anon19> krytarik: i went to the additional drivers tab and selected my wifi driver to install
[06:46] <anon19> and its installing unlike before
[06:47] <anon19> in software and updates
[06:47] <anon19> additional drivers
[06:47] <krytarik> Well, that's some progress at least then.. >_>
[06:47] <krytarik> And yeah, funky ISP can be an issue here.
[06:47] <anon19> its 75% done i will update you aas soon as
[06:48] <krytarik> https://askubuntu.com/questions/41605/trouble-downloading-packages-list-due-to-a-hash-sum-mismatch-error - could also try the answer here though.
[06:49] <anon19> i need to restart the computer
[06:49] <anon19> says driver was installed.
[06:51] <MJCD> heyyyyyyy
[06:51] <MJCD> I have been messing around for ages
[06:52] <MJCD> and i'm basically at the point where i'm making my own ubuntu fork
[06:53] <MJCD> it will be based on ubuntu 19 and will just use wayland+swaywm+chrome essentially
[06:53] <MJCD> ultra-ultra lightweight
[06:53] <MJCD> anyone else got any experience with making a fork
[06:53] <MJCD> I was thinking if I put some more effort into it I could probably brand it as like wubuntu
[06:53] <MJCD> or waybuntu
[06:54] <MJCD> swaybuntu? lol
[06:54] <MJCD> Oh and Qt5 as well
[06:54] <MJCD> and all Qt5 applets
[06:55] <anon19_> kryartik: a
[06:55] <lotuspsychje_> !discuss | MJCD
[06:56] <MJCD> ty
[06:56] <anon19_> guys still here?
[06:56] <anon19_> kryartik?
[06:56] <anon19_> dark?
[06:57] <DarkByD3sign> I'm still here, just.
[06:58] <DarkByD3sign> bbl need sleep.
[06:59] <R13ose> eraserpencil1: this worked, thanks
[06:59] <krytarik> !tab | anon19_: Learn to tab-complete.. >_>
[07:03] <anon19> DarkByD3sign: your here?
[07:04] <lotuspsychje_> !patience | anon19
[07:05] <lotuspsychje_> anon19: if nobody knows the answer, you can also re-ask your issue all in one line to the channel, once in a while
[07:05] <anon19> my wireless driver is not found
[07:05] <anon19> *adaptor
[07:05] <anon19> so i cant use wifi
[07:06] <anon19> update gives me hash sum mismatch error
[07:06] <anon19> i am connected to main server
[07:06] <anon19> i have build essential
[07:06] <Ben64> "all in one line"
[07:07] <anon19> I just installed ubuntu onto my computer, there is nothing else. It cannot find my wireless adaptor and i cannot connect to the internet through wifi.
[07:07] <anon19> Any solutions?
[07:08] <lotuspsychje_> anon19: ubuntu version? kernel version? wifi chipset please?
[07:09] <CarlFK> anon19: this this: apt -o Acquire::http::AllowRedirect=false update
[07:10] <anon19> lotuspsychje_: 18.04, 4.18.0-15-generic,
[07:10] <anon19> lotuspsychje: do you know command to find chipset?
[07:11] <anon19> CarlFK: could you write what exactly i have to type?
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> anon19: pastebin: sudo lshw -C network, please
[07:12] <anon19> https://pastebin.com/eifBiYhP
[07:12] <CarlFK> anon19: sudo apt -o Acquire::http::AllowRedirect=false update
[07:13] <anon19> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/eifBiYhP
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> !broadcom | anon19
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> anon19: its unclaimed: meaning it needs drivers installed
[07:14] <anon19> CarlFK: hashsum mismatch error
[07:14] <anon19> lotuspsychje: ok but my driver doesnt exist on there
[07:14] <anon19> bcm 43142
[07:15] <anon19> found it
[07:15] <anon19> lemem try
[07:22] <anon19> lotuspsychje: https://imgur.com/Y5xl0IB
[07:23] <anon19> as you can see its already being used
[07:23] <CarlFK> anon19: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.xz
[07:23] <CarlFK> anon19: md5sum Packages.xz
[07:24] <CarlFK> you should see:  68cb5b5f300a30f34cb2f2fd58a40118  Packages.xz
[07:25] <anon19> CarlFK: what do i do after download? i am filthy windows user so i dont know :S
[07:26] <CarlFK> anon19: no bashing other OSs.  or yourself.  not nice.  anyway..  do it on your ubuntu box that is giving you the error
[07:27] <CarlFK> anon19: or if you missed this:  do this (01:23:52 AM) CarlFK: anon19: md5sum Packages.xz
[07:41] <GlenK> can anyone tell me what I do with a downloaded snap package?  "snap install" seems to be for things in the snap store or whatever it's called
[07:47] <cim209> GlenK: waht do you mean what do i do
[07:50] <mobile_c> how do i obtain
[07:50] <mobile_c> E: Unable to locate package libc6-dev-i386
[07:51] <mobile_c> im running "You just created an Ubuntu trusty i386 (20190215_07:43) container." im LXD/LXC
[07:51] <mobile_c> in*
[07:52] <GlenK> cim209: so I went to getaether.net and downloaded a .snap file.  I'm not sure what to do with that file so I can run aether.
[07:53] <mobile_c> for https://source.android.com/setup/build/initializing.html
[07:53] <mobile_c> as my host is 18.04 which fails to setup the AOSP
[07:54] <cim209> GlenK: maybe try sudo snap install /path/to/file.snap
[07:54] <int3l> hello everyone, is there an easy way to fix a problem with compilation of kernel modules that have the magic version error
[07:55] <int3l> I can't compile modified version of rtl28xxu module under latest ubuntu 18.04
[07:56] <int3l> I downloaded linux-source and linux-headers
[07:56] <mobile_c> would it be this instead?  libc6-dev/trusty-updates,trusty-security 2.19-0ubuntu6.14 i386
[07:56] <mobile_c> or libc6-dev-x32/trusty-updates,trusty-security 2.19-0ubuntu6.14 i386
[07:58] <mobile_c> yea its x32
[08:09] <krytarik> mobile_c: So did you fix it?
[08:09] <krytarik> !info libc6-dev-i386 trusty
[08:10] <krytarik> Well, that's because it's only for 64-bit.
[08:11] <krytarik> (And the bot only handles 32-bit still.)
[08:14] <krytarik> Slightly hilarious though that you need the package while the build requirement is a 64-bit arch..
[08:15] <drown> hello all
[08:16] <drown> need some help with kind of embarassing issue, I have a R-PI running Ubuntu Core, and I am locked out from SSH publickey,password
[08:18] <drown> If someone can point me in the right direction I'm not new to bash, just not very versed in SSH keypairs
[08:18] <CarlFK> drown: can you login with a password?
[08:18] <drown> I always do, but my password isn't working.
[08:18] <drown> context: I had ESXI host running Ubuntu VM that I typically SSH from
[08:19] <drown> into the Pi, but the ESXI host hardware has failed
[08:19] <drown> The Pi is local an I get the display information from HDMI
[08:20] <drown> I'm fairly sure my id-rsa.pub is correct as it's the one that is linked to my SSO
[08:20] <drown> However, the passwords that I always use are not working.
[08:21] <drown> I encountered this issue from this machine before, and simply SSH hopped into the VM
[08:22] <ducasse> drown: post the output of 'ssh -vv user@host'
[08:22] <CarlFK> drown: is your public key (the contents of id-rsa.pub) on the pi?
[08:22] <drown> the public key is on this machine.
[08:22] <drown> The Pi is the host.
[08:22] <drown> I log into SSo to get the pub key
[08:23] <drown> Will post output..
[08:23] <drown> OpenSSH_7.6p1 Ubuntu-4ubuntu0.2, OpenSSL 1.0.2n  7 Dec 2017
[08:23] <drown> debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[08:24] <drown> debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 19: Applying options for *
[08:24] <drown> debug2: resolving "<IP_ADDRESS>" port 22
[08:24] <drown> debug2: ssh_connect_direct: needpriv 0
[08:24] <drown> debug1: Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> [<IP_ADDRESS>] port 22.
[08:24] <ducasse> drown: in a pastebin, please
[08:25] <drown> debug2: MACs stoc: umac-64-etm@openssh.com,umac-128-etm@openssh.com,hmac-sha2-256-etm@openssh.com,hmac-sha2-512-etm@openssh.com,hmac-sha1-etm@openssh.com,umac-64@openssh.com,umac-128@openssh.com,hmac-sha2-256,hmac-sha2-512,hmac-sha1
[08:25] <drown> debug2: compression ctos: none,zlib@openssh.com,zlib
[08:25] <drown> debug2: compression stoc: none,zlib@openssh.com,zlib
[08:25] <drown> debug2: languages ctos:
[08:25] <drown> debug2: languages stoc:
[08:25] <drown> debug2: first_kex_follows 0
[08:26] <drown> debug2: key: /home/drown/.ssh/id_ecdsa ((nil))
[08:26] <drown> debug2: key: /home/drown/.ssh/id_ed25519 ((nil))
[08:26] <drown> debug1: SSH2_MSG_EXT_INFO received
[08:26] <drown> debug1: kex_input_ext_info: server-sig-algs=<rsa-sha2-256,rsa-sha2-512>
[08:26] <drown> debug2: service_accept: ssh-userauth
[08:26] <drown> debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
[08:26] <CarlFK> doh.
[08:26] <CarlFK> (02:26:34 AM) drown left the room (Kicked by TheRedQueen (You are banned from this channel)).
[08:26] <ducasse> bah
[08:33] <mobile_c> thought that said Drone lol
[08:34] <satyamjha112> hello everyone
[08:34] <satyamjha112> i need a help
[08:34] <satyamjha112> i am new to ubuntu and IRC
[08:34] <mobile_c> aka the Drone spam bot on #ubuntu-unregistered
[08:34] <drown> IRC noob here.
[08:35] <drown> did you see the pastebin by any chance?
[08:35] <CarlFK> nope - paste the url again
[08:35] <drown> https://pastebin.com/ZSA6FPkx
[08:35] <ducasse> drown: we just saw the flood :)
[08:36] <drown> ducasse: lol, idk what I was thinking. Only end up in here when things aren't going my way it seems
[08:36] <satyamjha112> i am getting an error when i updated my kernel "started hold untill boot process completes
[08:37] <mobile_c> aww ubuntu-unregistered doesnt exist anymore o.o
[08:37] <ducasse> drown: ok, seems it can't find a matching key
[08:37] <satyamjha112> can anyone help me with this?
[08:37] <EoflaOE> !ask | satyamjhal12
[08:38] <drown> ducasse: Hmm... Okay so the key that I have in id-rsa.pub is the only key i have loaded to my Ubuntu SSO, specifically for the Raspberry Pi
[08:38] <satyamjha112> ubottu: thanks
[08:39] <EoflaOE> Today when I open my XFCE whisker menu on Xubuntu, it doesn't show categories, only Favorites, Recently used, and All. I know the search function, but I need to use categories to easily find an app
[08:39] <ducasse> drown: does ubuntu core retreive the key from the sso service? you haven't added it to authorized_keys?
[08:40] <ducasse> EoflaOE: that's probably xfce specific enough to be worth asking in #xubuntu
[08:41] <drown> ducasse: The way it works is it asks you for your SSO credentials upon first configuration, via direct input to the Pi
[08:42] <drown> So it sort of automates that proccess
[08:42] <drown> But then it also seems to prevent you from logging in directly from the Pi and refers you to use SSH
[08:43] <ducasse> drown: ok. i'd verify it's actually in authorized_keys, because it doesn't look like it is
[08:43] <drown> On this machine, I simply created id-rsa.pub via nano and pasted the key in
[08:44] <drown> I'm guessing that's not the process
[08:44] <ducasse> you do have the private key as well, right?
[08:44] <drown> ducasse: No, it seems like I do not..
[08:45] <ducasse> you should have id_rsa and id_rsa.pub, the first being the private key portion
[08:45] <Mystified1234> my ubuntu install dows not allow within ubuntu apps or browsers to right click. Right click works in terminal
[08:45] <drown> ducasse: oh you know what, I do have the private key I beleibe
[08:45] <drown> because the contents are different
[08:45] <Mystified1234> I'm not much of a techies.. not sure how to resolve this
[08:46] <Mystified1234> Inbrowsers I can drag into address bar with right click
[08:46] <EoflaOE> ducasse: Sorry for late response but thanks
[08:47] <Mystified1234> Btw I have a touch screen as well as keyboard
[08:47] <drown> okay
[08:47] <ducasse> EoflaOE: i've had responses take 12+ hours, so that was nothing :)
[08:47] <drown> ducasse: so I have the priavte key, but not on this machine.
[08:47] <ducasse> drown: ah, you'll need that
[08:48] <ducasse> that's what you authenticate with
[08:48] <EoflaOE> ducasse: OK. I just have one question. Will the librsvg be updated so it no longer works on non-SSE2 processors?
[08:48] <drown> ducasse: so here's the issue, i coppied the VM from the ESXI host but it's configuration is preventinti me from having networking
[08:49] <ducasse> EoflaOE: at some point it might, the kind people in #ubuntu-devel can probably better answer that
[08:49] <drown> ducasse: just realized, I have an Arch install on a machine that's not working, i can mount that drive and copy the key from there
[08:50] <EoflaOE> ducasse: I got it. Thanks.
[08:50] <drown> ducasse: so If I get the key and place it into .ssh will this most likely be the ned of the issue
[08:51] <ducasse> drown: afaict
[08:51] <ducasse> given that it's the right key, of course :)
[08:52] <EoflaOE> I have to go. See you later.
[08:52] <drown> ducasse: okay, you've been more help than you know. At least I have a course now.
[08:53] <drown> ducasse: much appreciation
[08:53] <ducasse> drown: just come back if it doesn't solve it, and we'll keep digging
[08:54] <drown> ducasse: thanks again.
[09:03] <pfeiffer> any way to reset xfce terminal font from the command line?
[09:03] <pfeiffer> I've set it to 'clean' and everytime i try to use the Appearance menu it crashes
[09:03] <pfeiffer> .terminalrc doesn't seem to mention font
[09:04] <ducasse> pfeiffer: maybe -fn option at launch time
[09:05] <pfeiffer> ducasse, how do you mean? sorry...
[09:06] <pfeiffer> i'm launching terminal from the xfce4-panel icon
[09:06] <ducasse> pfeiffer: "xfce-terminal -fn fixed"
[09:08] <pfeiffer> ducasse, doesn't seem to work
[09:09] <ducasse> ok, i thought it mught honor that option. try asking in #xubuntu, then
[09:09] <ducasse> *might
[09:09] <pfeiffer> will do, thanks
[09:21] <jonh_> hello
[09:26] <foolhardi_> Does anyone know how to find programs in /usr that haven't been installed by apt?
[09:29] <nisankhindia> foolhardi_: if you know the package or app name and it is there within PATH than you can use whereis command . dpkg search command also helpful .. it depends how you have installed the app
[09:30] <foolhardi_> that is the inverse of my question
[09:31] <foolhardi_> to simplify the question, i only install things through apt
[09:31] <nisankhindia> foolhardi_: you have to mention or know which way the package was installed
[09:31] <foolhardi_> i'm more or less concerned there's crud that's left behind that the package manager doesn't know about
[09:32] <nisankhindia> foolhardi_: read more about DPKG search command to find installed app details
[09:32] <foolhardi_> ok, thanks
[09:33] <EriC^^> foolhardi_: you could do a find for files that dont have any proper return for "dpkg -S filename"
[09:34] <foolhardi_> thanks eric, that's more helpful, i'll give that idea a try
[09:34] <nisankhindia> foolhardi_: ubuntu uses flatpak , snap etc apart from apt , dpkg etc . Some power users do install packages manually or compiling source codes .. so you may need to read Dpkg , apt and all other available options that used to install or build packages
[09:35] <foolhardi_> that's fine, snap and apt are the only ones installed by default
[09:35] <EriC^^> foolhardi_: find /usr/bin -type f | while IFS='' read -r i; do dpkg -S "$i"; done
[09:36] <foolhardi_> awesome Eric, very helpful
[09:36] <EriC^^> with | grep "no path matching" at the end for easier reading
[09:36] <EriC^^> foolhardi_: no problem
[09:36] <nisankhindia> foolhardi_: some packages may get installed in your distribution out of the PATH than you may need to read more about other facts
[09:38] <nisankhindia> foolhardi_: example if i do use BREW manager to install packages without configuring the PATH than system search or find feature may not be able to find the packages that installed in your system
[09:38] <foolhardi_> nisankhindia, sure. basically i once compiled and installed a few projects and i'm hunting for them now since i can't remember their names
[09:39] <foolhardi_> ok but brew isn't default
[09:39] <nisankhindia> foolhardi_: that was just an example
[09:39] <foolhardi_> right
[09:39] <foolhardi_> thankfully linux has no need for brew
[09:41] <nisankhindia> foolhardi_: you can use BREW package manager in some cases , if you want OSx apps that not available in linux repository or packages .
[09:41] <foolhardi_> i see
[09:42] <nisankhindia> Anyways ... if you can have a look at  logs that keeps all your manually compiled packages that it can help you
[09:42] <ZaZaQR> ok
[09:53] <maetthew> I'm a little confused about AppImages. Where should I store ("install") apps that are distributed as AppImages?  Should I keep them in my user folder or somewhere else?
[09:54] <nisankhindia> maetthew: create a folder as appimages inside home directory or inside download folder , which will help you to remember
[09:55] <maetthew> k i guess ill do that thanks
[10:11] <kab0m> Hi
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> welcome kab0m
[10:14] <kab0m> i am trying to get a vm(Ubuntu 18.04) working that shares a vpn connection (openvpn + dnsmasq) to other clients in the network...the problem is that i get dns leaks because dnsmasq not only uses the dns-entries provided by the vpn-tunnel but also the ones that are defined before the vpn-connection is established. can someone help here please?
[10:28] <alive> My usual approach is to disable dnsmasq
[10:28] <alive> and to rely on the resolv.conf outright.
[10:55] <kab0m> alive: ok, but i need the dnsmasq-service to share the dns-service to other clients on the network. or do you have another way of doing this?
[10:55] <andrewrs> I can't seem to launch Terminal or Files. It pops up on the bar like it's launching, thingy spins, but it doesn't open
[10:55] <andrewrs> 18.10, gnome 3.30.1
[10:56] <andrewrs> Googled, tried to launch xterm after alt + f2 and that didn't work
[10:57] <andrewrs> Oddly, I ALSO started having an issue with chrome remote desktop AND youtube videos not playing after a reboot
[11:12] <tripoloski> hoi
[11:13] <EriC^^> hoi
[11:14] <tripoloski> I have a problem with my Ubuntu
[11:15] <tripoloski> when I close my laptop, and open it again the screen changes black
[11:31] <nikolam> how do I set resolution on second X session on same display (nvidia graphics)
[11:32] <nikolam> It always set resolution to 1280X1024 on concole 6, (with startx) when resolution on console 7 is real 1920X1080
[11:32] <nikolam> I want also 1920X1080 resolution on console 6
[11:33] <bpords> nikolam: xrandr?
[11:33] <bpords> nikolam: xorg.conf?
[11:37] <nikolam> bpords, but for the first X session on console 7, it is OK, for console 6 it is not and I suppose it uses same xorg.conf
[11:47] <qwebirc82557> drive problem after instalation on login
[11:48] <blackflow> lemme fetch my crystal ball...
[11:51] <bpords> nikolam: qwebirc82557 explain
[11:54] <nikolam> qwebirc82557, well, problem with what drive
[11:54] <nikolam> You cant't mount USB drive?
[11:55] <blackflow> !details | qwebirc82557
[11:55] <qwebirc82557> I made a bootable flash of ubuntu v.14 then installed it on my laptop i was using windows & I was getting stuck on blue screen
[11:56] <clobato> Hi!
[11:56] <blackflow> qwebirc82557: You mean Ubuntu 14.04? That's almost EOL. Why do you need that one specifically?
[11:59] <EriC^^> hi clobato
[11:59] <satyamjha112> i am getting error when i updated my kernel(ubuntu 18.04.1) and screen gets freezes after this "started hold untill boot process finishes up"
[11:59] <satyamjha112> can someone help me?
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> !details | tripoloski
[12:53] <kab0m> How do i force debian to use the dns-servers defined in /etc/network/interfaces instead of the ones in /etc/resolv.conf?
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> kab0m: this is ubuntu support here
[12:55] <kab0m> i know, but maybe someone knows? are debian questions prohibited here?
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> kab0m: freenode has different channels for a reason, ask in #debian please
[12:56] <kab0m> lotuspsychje: allright :)
[13:13] <solsTiCe> hi. so I installed ubuntu a long time ago because I couldn't bare gnome shell or wanted to switch back to kde. I wanted unity. now that unity is gone and that gnome shell is a little better, there is nothing left to old me back in ubuntu ? isn't it ? so do I go back to archlinux or not ?
[13:15] <jeremyb> solsTiCe: I thought Unity could still be installed from a third party
[13:16] <solsTiCe> never mind, I am fine with the current state of gnome shell. I even use wayland
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> jeremyb solsTiCe unity is still in the official repos
[13:16] <jeremyb> ubuntu-unity-desktop
[13:17] <solsTiCe> well unity is dead. it's still there but no development on it if I am right
[13:20] <leftyfb> solsTiCe: your question is not a support question and is inappropriate here
[13:20] <solsTiCe> oh my
[13:21] <eraserpencil1> hi, is there an article on troubleshooting dmesg error messages and knowing what kernel parameters to put in?
[13:22] <solsTiCe> I think I am going to begin by leaving #ubuntu. I never got any sort of help here,
[13:28] <egon__> !weather rostov
[13:29] <egon__> !weather KJA
[13:29] <egon__> !weather kgd
[13:31] <urxtnw> when is lsblk, how come I have all these "loops" dev/loop1, dev/loop2, etc.? they are made by snaps
[13:31] <urxtnw> when i do lsblk*
[13:32] <leftyfb> urxtnw: because they are bind mounts for the individual snaps. That's how snaps work
[13:33] <urxtnw> what is this snaps thing, is it a new package manager?
[13:33] <leftyfb> yes
[13:33] <leftyfb> lsblk -f -e 7
[13:35] <brunt__> I'm new here so having trouble getting to a relavent server, but is does anyone here know about the python OS module?
[13:36] <urxtnw> leftyfb, thank you
[13:36] <leftyfb> brunt__: you might be better off asking in #python
[13:36] <brunt__> how to join #python?
[13:36] <leftyfb>  /join #python
[13:36] <urxtnw> leftyfb, how did you know to exclude 7 and what is 7
[13:36] <urxtnw> i couldnt find it in the man page
[13:37] <leftyfb> urxtnw: I looked it up
[13:37] <rdh> brunt__, https://docs.python.org/3/library/os.html
[13:39] <brunt__> how to ping someone?
[13:40] <eraserpencil1> ping <ip address>
[13:40] <wishie> so ive recently installed Ubuntu 16.04.5 (because its an officially supported version for UniFi Video) on a Dell Optiplex, with 2 x 3TB hard disks striped
[13:40] <eraserpencil1> like ping google.com
[13:40] <wishie> but according to ubuntu, there is only 1.5T of space
[13:40] <wishie> if i look at dmesg output, both sda and sdb are 3TB disks
[13:41] <tomreyn> wishie: how did you do the raid setup? is this hardware or software raid?
[13:41] <rdh> brunt__, so use python os module to run local command ping ?
[13:41] <wishie> tomreyn: hardware. intel.
[13:41] <tomreyn> wishie: do you know the term "fakeraid"?
[13:42] <wishie> well, i guess its 'software' (via BIOS)
[13:42] <tomreyn> !fakeraid | wishie
[13:42] <tomreyn> wishie: yes, i'd recommend OS managed software raid over mainboard firmware managed software raid
[13:43] <wishie> the machine is all configured now though
[13:43] <tomreyn> wishie: the only reason to use intel fakeraid would maybe be that it's supported on multiple OS, including linux.
[13:44] <wishie> so there is no way to get proper space, without starting over?
[13:44] <tomreyn> so if you have a multi boot setup you might want to use it.
[13:44] <wishie> i believe its 'striping'
[13:44] <wishie> i just dont know why its reporting 1.5T instead of ~6TB
[13:45] <Drakeson> What is the easiest way to block or honeypot a set of hosts (identified by name, not ip) in a box?  /etc/hosts? local dnsmasq? iptables?
[13:45] <tomreyn> wishie: i'm not really into using intel's fake raid, but you can read up on how it's supported by mdadm on linux.
[13:45] <Drakeson> Clarification: by easy I don't mean "point and click".  I mean minimal[ish] config.
[13:46] <wishie> hmm
[13:46] <wishie> i wonder if its because its a UEFI install
[13:49] <eraserpencil1> tomreyn, I finally got my Ubuntu installation up and running...more or less the way I expect it to.
[13:50] <tomreyn> wishie: can you post the url returned by: cat /proc/mdstat | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:50] <wishie> ive just left the location of the machine sadly
[13:50] <wishie> i wont be back there for 12-14hrs
[13:50] <tomreyn> eraserpencil1: i'm afraid i forgot about all the details of the issue you needed to solve there.
[13:51] <eraserpencil1> tomreyn: just know im appreciative of the help you gave last few times
[13:51] <tomreyn> wishiei see. well, you can review the output of "cat /proc/mdstat" yourself later, or use the above command to post it online and share it here
[13:52] <tomreyn> eraserpencil1: okay :) you're welcome!
[13:52] <wishie> i think i can export my unifi video configuration
[13:52] <wishie> if so, i might wipe the machine and start again
[13:52] <wishie> its just a 16.04 install with unifi-video added, really
[13:52] <eraserpencil1> tomreyn: do you know of any resources I can read about kernel boot parameters and what they mean
[13:53] <tomreyn> eraserpencil1: sure, there's documentation on this on kernel.org
[13:55] <tomreyn> eraserpencil1: firefox https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v$(uname -r | cut -d. -f1,2)/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.html
[13:56] <eraserpencil1> tomreyn: I still have some error messages in my dmesg and I dont have suspend or sleep. Is the correct steps solving it just finding the right parameter?
[13:58] <tomreyn> eraserpencil1: the correct way solving it is buying hardware where the producer cares about making it standard compliant and linux compatible.
[13:58] <eraserpencil1> :)
[13:59] <tomreyn> eraserpencil1: in absence of this, finding the right kernel options to work around firmware bugs is an approach you may have to take.
[13:59] <tomreyn> (there is also the situation where hardware is new and no sufficient driver support is in the version of linux you are running, yet)
[13:59] <wishie> ahh the old "buy hardware from manufacturers that support linux" chestnut
[14:00] <wishie> been hearing that for many a decade
[14:00] <tomreyn> as long as they don'T just focus on windows, it'll be fine
[14:00] <eraserpencil1> yea... i got an alienware. Seeing how it's basically Dell, and having loved the XPS, i thought, why not....
[14:01] <eraserpencil1> regretted getting it as the first computer i ever bought
[14:01] <tomreyn> but please note we only do support here, no discussions, we have separate channels for this
[14:01] <tomreyn> !discuss
[14:02] <eraserpencil1> haha ok
[14:05] <eraserpencil1> tomreyn: am I suppose to debug till I see no more error messages in dmesg?
[14:07] <luke-jr> Is there a trick to get Ubuntu to boot in qemu these days?
[14:08] <luke-jr> graphics at the CD bootloader are scrambled, and the kernel panics immediately… :/
[14:10] <tomreyn> eraserpencil1: no. if something doesn't seem to work right that you depend on / are missing, you shoould try to find a workaround / fix.
[14:16] <tomreyn> luke-jr: note that especially "gaming laptops" not rarely have unusual hardware and firmware customizations which are then tested (and supported, by drivers, software / firmware modifications) against exactly one operating system, which happens to not be linux.
[14:16] <luke-jr> tomreyn: I don't see what this has to do with qemu :x
[14:17] <tomreyn> luke-jr: nothing, and i meant to address eraserpencil1 there
[15:21] <urxtnw> what would be the main difference between debian minimal install and an ubuntu minimal install. Just packages and repository?
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> !debian | urxtnw
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> we only support the ubuntu side here urxtnw
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> urxtnw: you could open a poll in #ubuntu-offtopic if you like?
[15:24] <urxtnw> lotuspsychje, I see, thank you
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> urxtnw: on ubuntu, there's 2 ways to go minimal: download a minimal iso, or enable minimal during setup
[15:25] <urxtnw> by minimal I mean minimal iso of course
[15:59] <yoot> Hello. I've just installed Ubuntu 17.04 I can't see my Wifi on the list. Why?
[15:59] <blackflow> yoot: 17.04 is no longer supported. did you mean 18.04?
[15:59] <yoot> nope 17
[16:00] <yoot> There are a lot of wifi networks on the list but not mine.
[16:01] <yoot> It is not about the version I guess.
[16:02] <tomreyn> !17.04
[16:02] <tomreyn> you're about one year late to upgrade
[16:02] <jeremyb> yoot what wifi card?
[16:03] <tomreyn> yoot: just doesnload 18.04.2 - it was just released, and is an LTS release, so you got long term support, too.
[16:04] <yoot> jeremyb: Don't know. What is the command to find it out?
[16:04] <leftyfb> yoot: please install ubuntu 18.04. You will not get support for 17.04 anymore
[16:04] <jeremyb> yoot> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 net | pastebinit
[16:04] <leftyfb> jeremyb: Ubuntu 17.04 is no longer supported.
[16:05] <jeremyb> I know and certain wifi cards can't access 2.4 GHz channels higher than 11
[16:06] <leftyfb> jeremyb: so there's no point in troubleshooting with yoot at the moment. Not until they install a supported version.
[16:07] <blackflow> yoot: the solution to your problem is bugfixed and upgraded stack in supported Ubuntu 18.04 or newer.
[16:08] <yoot> it's broadcom bcm4313
[16:09] <jeremyb> yoot, don't expect it to work on a 2.4 GHz channel higher than 11
[16:09] <leftyfb> yoot: The fix it to install Ubuntu 18.04
[16:09] <yoot> Okay... I'll install 18.04
[16:10] <yoot> 18.04 or 18.10 Doesn't matter?
[16:10] <leftyfb> yoot: I would go with 18.04 since it's supported for 10 years
[16:10] <leftyfb> 18.10 will be unsupported in a few months
[16:11] <blackflow> bionic is supported for 5 years for general public and community edition
[16:11] <blackflow> +5 is for paid Ubuntu Advantage support.
[16:11] <leftyfb> ah right :)
[16:11] <yoot> okay
[16:11] <leftyfb> wait, that 10 years they mentioned is for ESR?
[16:11] <jeremyb> yoot change the router to use channel 1-11
[16:11] <blackflow> (but definitely yes, go Bionic. non-LTS ubuntus are beta grade and development/testing editions)
[16:12] <leftyfb> jeremyb: They are installing 18.04.
[16:13] <leftyfb> blackflow: do you have clarification that the 5 additional years is only for ESR?
[16:14] <blackflow> yes, the official news.
[16:14] <yoot> jeremyb: I'm not at home. I can't :)
[16:15] <blackflow> yoot: so you're asking for help for something you can't test the solution you receive, immediately?
[16:15] <jeremyb> yoot remember it, I haven't seen a Broadcom wifi card work in Linux that was able to use a channel higher than 11
[16:15] <blackflow> leftyfb: no, wait, it was the interview with Shuttleworth
[16:17] <ioria> https://news.slashdot.org/story/18/11/17/1748205/mark-shuttleworth-reveals-ubuntu-1804-will-get-a-10-year-support-lifespan
[16:22] <ioria> but i'am (quite) sure  it's about server/cloud/iot, not desktop
[16:27] <kab0m> What is the best way to setup a VM as a vpn-router? has someone a guide on hand?
[16:27] <strive> kab0m, interestig.
[16:28] <strive> s/interestig/interesting
[16:28] <Mcl0vin> howdy folks
[16:28] <kab0m> i have tried but i have problems with dns leaks
[16:28] <leftyfb> kab0m: you probably want #ubuntu-server
[16:29] <kab0m> leftyfb: i allready tried with ubuntu-server ;) but i have problems get dnsmasq with openvpn running without dns-leaks
[16:29] <leftyfb> kab0m: /join #ubuntu-server
[16:30] <kab0m> leftyfb: thanks
[16:30] <Mcl0vin> Ubuntu 18.04 LTS here and i am having issues with my network , when i generate netplan no yaml gets created
[16:31] <leftyfb> kab0m: also, you should state exactly how far you have gone as far as settings things up and where you're having trouble. Not start with asking how to set it up since you've already done that and it would waste troubleshooting time and effort.
[16:31] <Mcl0vin> and i have to do ip route add default via x.x.x.x to be able to access the internet. otherwise no connection
[16:32] <kab0m> leftyfb: i wana start from scracth as im getting nowhere :(
[16:34] <ioria> Mcl0vin, if it's a fresh install, you should have a yaml file in /etc/netplan
[16:36] <Mcl0vin> ioria: there was and it was working ... but for some odd reason it quit working and when i look at my ifconfig i noticed wrong CIDR of /24 but my netowrk is /26
[16:36] <Mcl0vin> ioria: and made sure that my yaml file reflected that /26
[16:38] <Mcl0vin> where is the yaml file that get generated after netplan generate command is issued
[16:39] <jeremyb> Mcl0vin: /etc/netplan ?
[16:39] <ioria> Mcl0vin, you mean your netmask is <IP_ADDRESS> 	?
[16:40] <Mcl0vin> jeremyb: its not there
[16:40] <ioria> Mcl0vin,  /etc/systemd/network/ is empty ?
[16:40] <Mcl0vin> ioria: yes my old yaml was configerd with a /26 but when i do ifconfig a /24 was assigned to my ensXXX interface
[16:41] <Mcl0vin> ioria: standby checking ...
[16:42] <Mcl0vin> ioria: yes /etc/systemd/network/ is empty
[16:43] <ioria> Mcl0vin,  set a yaml file in /etc/netplan and specify      addresses: [xxx.xxx.x.xxx/26]   ?
[16:45] <Mcl0vin> ioria: that is the $1,000,000 how do i do that. what is the use of sudo netplan generate if it doesn't generate sample file at least
[16:46] <ioria> Mcl0vin,  personally, i have always edited manually that file (just don't use TAB)
[16:47] <LTCD> When I open Google Chrome at the top in yellow it says it no longer supports the OS I am using. How can I go about fixing this? I did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:47] <ioria> Mcl0vin,  you mean you need a sample ?
[16:47] <LTCD> Weirdly Software Updater seems to detect a newer LTS.
[16:47] <Mcl0vin> ioria: let me share my previous yaml file
[16:47] <Mcl0vin> !paste
[16:48] <Mcl0vin> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2f5mJXzwwZ/
[16:49] <esemds> guys i have suspend probelm (both suspend & hibernate), is there any way to fix it?
[16:50] <ioria> Mcl0vin, looks fine to me
[16:51] <Mcl0vin> ioria: that is what driving me nuts
[16:51] <Mcl0vin> so why do i have to add default route manually :(
[16:52] <yoot> I've installed Ubuntu 18 and it's still the same. You're right I can't see Channel 13.
[16:52] <ioria> Mcl0vin,  maybe add dhcp6: no  ...
[16:53] <yoot> Are there any solutions to see channel 13? It's Broadcom BCM4313
[16:54] <jeremyb> yoot, not that I know of
[16:54] <Mcl0vin> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JZQ4YRJ5wK/ see what i mean
[16:55] <ioria> Mcl0vin,  paste   ' ip a', it's better
[16:55] <Mcl0vin> netmask is <IP_ADDRESS> it should be x.x.x.192
[16:55] <Mcl0vin> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/D5cHvrQjZx/
[16:56] <ioria> Mcl0vin,  add dhcp6: no    and reboot
[16:59] <jeremyb> yoot, you could buy an older Intel wifi card on ebay cheap as long as the computer doesn't have a BIOS whitelist
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[17:28] <tgm4883> Using 18.04, is there any way to make the "program is not responding" dialog box either A) wait longer before showing up (as the program isn't "not responding) or B) disable it for certain applications all together?
[17:29] <sim642> 18.04 openjdk-11 still ships openjdk 10 instead but from what I read it was supposed to be properly upgraded to openjdk 11 once out, which has been for many months now. What am I missing?
[17:32] <tgm4883> sim642: no news on it recently it seems https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-lts/+bug/1796027
[17:33] <sim642> Well yeah, found that report too but I'm really confused about why that's still the case
[17:34] <tgm4883> sim642: no idea. Honestly this is a really bad precedence to set
[17:42] <sim642> It's especially weird because it took less than a month since its release for openjdk 11 to be in 18.10
[17:44] <OerHeks> is the bionic openjsk 10.x version backported?
[17:45] <tgm4883> OerHeks: no. Version 10 shipped with 18.04
[17:47] <OerHeks> oh, the header says 10, but the manifest says 11 .. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-lts/10.0.2+13-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[17:47] <OerHeks> that is why i think it is backported, not sure why it is still called 10
[17:48] <tgm4883> OerHeks: it's important to note that the package is named openjdk-11, while only including 10 with the express reasoning that version 11 would be backported with the same package name
[18:12] <ioria> tgm4883,   might help ? https://askubuntu.com/questions/412917/how-to-increase-waiting-time-for-non-responding-programs
[18:15] <tgm4883> ioria: needing to compile it, sad news. I guess it makes sense though
[18:16] <tgm4883> I feel like it's happening quicker than 5 seconds, but maybe I need to time it
[18:16] <ioria> tgm4883,   confirmed here : https://superuser.com/questions/1051526/how-to-disable-the-is-not-responding-message-on-fedora
[18:17] <OerHeks> hmm 18.04.2 comes with 4.18 .. but i am still on 4.15, howto obtain the fresh kernel?
[18:18] <tgm4883> OerHeks: you need to install HWE
[18:18] <OerHeks> i believe we will get that question more often
[18:18] <OerHeks> oh, HWE, oke .. but not for a fresh install, right?
[18:18] <tgm4883> OerHeks: correct. A fresh 18.04.2 install already comes with it
[18:19] <tgm4883> which also means, IIRC, that if you install 18.04.0 you're stay with the shipped kernel while if you install any of the point releases you'll always be upgraded to the latest HWE kernel
[18:19] <OerHeks> where is ubottu when one needs him :-(
[18:20] <OerHeks> tgm4883, yes, i remember the 16.04.2 situation
[18:22] <LtHummus> what happened with 16.04.2?
[18:22] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04 # wopuld do the job
[18:23] <OerHeks> LtHummus, same situation, upgrading does not give the newer kernel tree, while fresh install does
[18:23] <OerHeks> reboot, brb
[18:27] <OerHeks> 4.18.0-15-generic #16~18.04.1
[18:29] <Mcl0vin> why on my ubuntu 18.04 LTS after a reboot I have to do sudo netplan apply for my box to be able to access the internet ?
[18:31] <tomreyn> Mcl0vin: what did you install there?
[18:31] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: meaning?
[18:31] <tomreyn> 18.04 LTS desktop, standard server, alternative server?
[18:31] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: server
[18:32] <tomreyn> can you show some logs?
[18:32] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: which log
[18:32] <tomreyn> the full journal since reboot, if you don't mind
[18:33] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: can you show me how to do that please
[18:33] <tomreyn> otherwise just anything network related, or -p4
[18:33] <tomreyn> "journalctl -b" returns the logs since latest boot
[18:33] <tomreyn> !pastebinit
[18:34] <tomreyn> install "pastebinit", then you can "journalctl -b | pastebinit" to post it to https://paste-ubuntu.com and get the url
[18:34] <tomreyn> * https://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:37] <pi0> i updated bashrc but changes did not take effect
[18:39] <tomreyn> pi0: logout, login
[18:40] <pi0> let me restart
[18:41] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mWMmFCrh4y/
[18:41] <tomreyn> Mcl0vin: this is your entire log?
[18:41] <Mcl0vin> yep
[18:42] <tomreyn> whats the command you ran?
[18:42] <ioria> ho,  christmas log
[18:43] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/byPzBKs8Pr/
[18:43] <Mcl0vin> "journalctl -b |
[18:43] <Mcl0vin>                  pastebinit"
[18:44] <tomreyn> Mcl0vin: what's the output of "lsb_release -ds"?
[18:44] <tomreyn> the second paste you just made contains the same as the last one.
[18:44] <Mcl0vin> Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS
[18:45] <tomreyn> whch installer image did you use?
[18:45] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: honestly i don't recall
[18:45] <tomreyn> oh this is not a fresh install, sorry, thought you had said so
[18:47] <ioria> Mcl0vin, /var/log/installer/media-info
[18:47] <tomreyn> Mcl0vin: can you: ls -alh /var/log | pastebinit
[18:47] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: its a lab on a vm
[18:47] <tomreyn> i don't know what a "lab on a vm" is
[18:49] <tomreyn> please don't PM, use the channel. my client is configured to drop personal messages (unless whitelisted), i just receive notifications.
[18:49] <rappscallion> hi there, i have a lenovo ideapad 110s running xubuntu and get wifi problems now and then. networkmanager says i am connected, but i cant get any connection. i was opening firefox and was able to reach google, but one second later i could not reach any site with firefox, nor ping to any adress. iw station dump shows signal of -71 dBm, ifconfig shows that i am missing an ip adress. route shows an empty routing table.
[18:49] <tomreyn> if there is something you cannot share here then just explain why so, or redact the sensitive parts
[18:50] <tomreyn> Mcl0vin: ^
[18:50] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: although i have nothing to worry about as i mention this is a testing virtual machine . i don't feel like showing the content of that system
[18:50] <Mcl0vin> which log are you trying to see
[18:51] <tomreyn> Mcl0vin: you have an almost empty journal, which is unusual. i wanted to see whether you have other current log files.
[18:52] <jeremyb> rappscallion: see https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2354328&p=13614520&#post13614520
[18:55] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: in the journalctl -b you wanted to see boot option
[18:55] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: should i try just journalctl and see what it gives
[18:56] <tomreyn> Mcl0vin: you can do so, but it won't return more logs of the current boot, unless your system time or systemd-journal logging is broken.
[18:57] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jKGcMrH7HQ/
[18:58] <rappscallion> jeremyb: thanks, i am reading right now. btw rebooting fixes the problem temporary
[18:58] <jeremyb> rappscallion: The first command might fix it then
[18:59] <tomreyn> Mcl0vin: right, as i said. it doesn't help finding out what your system is doing. you could tell whether you have logs with current time stamps in /var/log, and which, or post dmesg instead.
[19:00] <tomreyn> Mcl0vin: also, does your /etc/systemd/journald.conf contain any non comment(ed-out) lines?
[19:02] <rappscallion> jeremyb: the sed command changing powersave = 3 to powersave = 2 ?
[19:03] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: all commented
[19:03] <jeremyb> rappscallion: That is the one, it prevents Network Manager from enabling wifi power management
[19:04] <rappscallion> okay, thanks a lot! i try it and see if the problem occures again. thank you
[19:08] <pi0> i installed ubuntu 18.04 on my surface pro 6
[19:08] <pi0> but the apps launch with tiny icons
[19:09] <tomreyn> https://wiki.gnome.org/HowDoI/HiDpi
[19:09] <tomreyn> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI
[19:10] <tomreyn> pi0: ^
[19:11] <Mcl0vin> so tomreyn back to my original issue .... my .yaml file is configure with static /26 ipv4 address and when i do ifconfig -a i see my interface is configured with the same address but /24 cidr
[19:11] <pi0> tomreyn: hmm
[19:11] <pi0> do i need to speficy the app
[19:13] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: and my box will not access the internet until i do netplan apply
[19:13] <Mcl0vin> how is networking getting poked when the system boots
[19:14] <tomreyn> pi0: the gnome.org instructions are generic to gnome-shell
[19:15] <Kami> holisssssssssssssssss
[19:15] <tomreyn> pi0: other desktop managers may have different ways to configure such.
[19:15] <Kami> hay alguien que hable español ???????'
[19:15] <pi0> oh wow reddit users are not liking gnome
[19:15] <pi0> for scaling
[19:15] <Kami> hello pio
[19:16] <tomreyn> Mcl0vin: you should fix your logging issues before you try to understand why other things dont work
[19:16] <pi0> hey Kami
[19:16] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: what/how do you suggest i do that
[19:16] <tomreyn> Kami: non hablas espanol - /join #ubuntu-es
[19:16] <Kami> how are you pio?
[19:17] <tomreyn> Kami: this channel is just for support (in english). do you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:17] <tomreyn> Mcl0vin: i suggested things above
[19:17] <pi0> good, but i will do better once i get this scaling to work
[19:18] <pi0> tomreyn:  which desktop manager dod you use
[19:18] <pi0> dod = do
[19:18] <pi0> gmone is the name of the desktop manager?
[19:18] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/g2mHdMg7fc/
[19:19] <tomreyn> pi0: that's not relevant to your cause. but yes, i use ubuntu 18.04 with the default gnome desktop (with some modifications) currently.
[19:19] <Kami> I do not speak English
[19:20] <Kami> heloooooooooooooooo'???????????????????
[19:21] <blackflow> !es | Kami
[19:21] <Kami> real name is uxhsijbxnsuwns xd
[19:21] <blackflow> !sp | Kami
[19:21] <blackflow> oh hell where's ubottu
[19:21] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GX9S4HsKJt/
[19:22] <Kami> español I blakflow
[19:23] <pi0> tomreyn: so to understand, sorry i am knew
[19:23] <pi0> what exactly should i look into to resolve this?
[19:23] <pi0> i wouldnt even know how to change a desktop manager
[19:25] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: should i just wipe and install fresh ?
[19:26] <pi0> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/09/enable-fractional-scaling-gnome-linux
[19:26] <pi0> is this still possible in current version of ubuntu
[19:26] <tomreyn> Mcl0vin: looks ok as far as i can tell. except for line 1134 which suggests the system didn't shot down properly previously. does /var/log/syslog have a current timestamp? does it report anything about (systemd-)journald or networking issues?
[19:27] <tomreyn> Mcl0vin: if a fresh install is an easy decision, this may be a good plan.
[19:28] <tomreyn> pi0: did you read any of the pages i pointed you previously?
[19:28] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: syslog does have current time
[19:29] <tomreyn> ok Mcl0vin
[19:29] <Mcl0vin> tomreyn: check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9SdQzRQCzd/
[19:30] <Mcl0vin> ^^ "more /var/log/syslog | grep systemd- | pastebinit"
[19:31] <physpi> I need halp
[19:31] <physpi> Having a boatload of screentear on my computer with a monitor
[19:31] <tomreyn> pi0: as both pages i pointed oyu to try to explain, a "hidpi" (high dots-per-inch) screen is one which provides unusually high (pixel) resolutions. you probably have one like this, since you are reporting that application icons are very small - which is a commonly seen effect of this.
[19:32] <physpi> Oh yeah, I've also got some applications that don't scale even though I set scaling to 200%
[19:32] <physpi> I can get them to scale using command line arguements
[19:32] <physpi> but not sure how to do that by default
[19:32] <tomreyn> pi0: both of these pages discuss approaches (command you can execute in a terminal) to increase the display size of icons and widgets, so that working on this graphical user interface gets easier.
[19:33] <physpi> tomreyn: can I have those links?
[19:33] <physpi> as well
[19:34] <ishchuktaras> hi
[19:36] <pizzaburger> Hello all! I am trying to have macchanger spoof my MAC address on boot using a systemd unit. Here is my configuration: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gHhC6SKnjX/. However, it doesn't work. Could any one help me figure out where the mistake is?
[19:36] <tomreyn> Mcl0vin: lines 53 and 67 state that the ethernet link was properly configured. now i don't know when you rebooted, so i can't guess whether this is the resul of you manually reconfiguring it or whether it was automatically configured at these times.
[19:37] <tomreyn> Mcl0vin: note also line 40 - i'm not sure whether this is standard, you may want to look this message up.
[19:38] <tomreyn> physpi: https://wiki.gnome.org/HowDoI/HiDpi https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI
[19:38] <physpi> ty
[19:38] <tomreyn> physpi: if you're looking for help with the sreen tearing issue you'll need to provide more context
[19:39] <um1b0zu> hey all
[19:39] <um1b0zu> I need help. I'm on 18.04 and I can't seem to connect using my vpn
[19:39] <physpi> tomreyn: I use a U2718Q with my computer running ubuntu
[19:39] <physpi> 4K monitor lots of screen tearing whilst watching videos
[19:40] <um1b0zu> I used the ovpn file and connected to the wizard on the desktop, but when I check my IP address, my IP address doesn't change
[19:40] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: in case you use network manager to manage this interface, you could just configure it there.
[19:40] <um1b0zu> am I missing something here? How do I check if my vpn is working if my IP address doesn't change?
[19:40] <physpi> curl ipinfo.io/ip
[19:40] <physpi> is one way
[19:40] <physpi> Also want to check for dns leakaged
[19:41] <physpi> May also want to consider encrypting dns requests
[19:41] <physpi> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9qSQDonE/IMG_3018.MP4
[19:41] <um1b0zu> it appears I am. my ovpn file has 'script-security 2'
[19:41] <um1b0zu> is that what encrypts dns requests?
[19:42] <um1b0zu> I'm not a CIA agent here by the way
[19:42] <um1b0zu> I mostly wanted to set up a vpn for a gaming server I'm using
[19:42] <um1b0zu> but I just want to make sure I'm actually routing correctly. from what it looks like, I'm still using the same routing and my packets aren't actually coming from the vpn.
[19:43] <physpi> AMD processor, no idea what graphics are, something integrated?
[19:43] <um1b0zu> the vpn connection just says, "Connected". but if my IP address doesn't change, how do I actually know it is connected?
[19:43] <tomreyn> physpi: lspci -knnv | grep -A10 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:44] <tomreyn> physpi: this tells you and us (if you'll post the url herE) what graphics you have
[19:44] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: Hi! You mean just going to WiFi settings? Under "Identity" tab I see "MAC address" and "cloned address". I could input a random one under "Cloned Address", but that would mean a static one. I'm trying to figure out how to have it randomized every boot.
[19:45] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: which ubuntu version did you say you're running?
[19:45] <physpi> termbin.com/dsg5
[19:45] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: Ubuntu 18.10
[19:47] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager#Configuring_MAC_address_randomization
[19:47] <OerHeks> um1b0zu, did you install openvpn network-manager-openvpn network-manager-openvpn-gnome, and restarted networking after install ovpn ? systemctl network-manager restart
[19:48] <OerHeks> oh
[19:48] <physpi> Alright, I set the resolution to be used to 1920x1080 and the screen tearing stopped
[19:48] <physpi> Which is a temporary solution, but not horrible
[19:50] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: Thnak you, I'm trying it out!
[19:50] <tomreyn> physpi: if it comes back, you could try to see if it is limited to certain video codecs, or whether this also occurs with an ubuntu 18.04.2 live iso.
[19:51] <tomreyn> physpi: there are also some intel driver (modinfo -p i915) and X configuration options ("TearFree") which may be of use.
[19:51] <physpi> tomreyn: I tried looking for the config file, didn't find it
[19:51] <physpi> Also not sure how to set it
[19:51] <physpi> exactly, if it doesn't exist do I create one?
[19:52] <physpi> tomreyn: It only went away because I'm not using 4K
[19:52] <physpi> not sure about codecs
[19:52] <tomreyn> physpi: it is created in memory on the fly by X when it starts up, unless you created one in /etc/X11/
[19:55] <tomreyn> physpi: yeon are server and workstation cpu's which don't usually need strong GPUs, and this one is probably from around 2013/2014, when intel GPU's weren't that advanced, yet (they are still low spec, but got better). so i'm not even sure this GPU can handle a high dpi display well.
[19:55] <physpi> Gotcha
[19:55] <physpi> I haven't had issues without video
[19:55] <tomreyn> *Xeon
[19:55] <physpi> Let me try flicking a window around
[19:56] <pi0> tomreyn: shoot i tried different settings to enable scaling
[19:56] <pi0> anyone here know how to enable in between whole number scaling within gnome
[19:56] <physpi> no screen tearing tossing a window around
[19:56] <tomreyn> there is also #gnome
[19:57] <physpi> Oh, good idea
[19:58] <physpi> Seems like turning off scaling might stop the tearing issue
[19:59] <physpi> Nope turning off scaling and it still has the issue
[20:01] <root_> Good day. I seem to be having trouble with my PC. I'm using Linux Mint 18.04 with a Radeon graphics card. A few days ago I decided to make use of the graphics card by installing amdgpu.
[20:01] <root_> After I rebooted my PC, I started getting an error about Cinammon being in software rendering mode, as it was running without video hardware acceleration.
[20:02] <root_> It also says that there could be a problem with my drivers.
[20:02] <root_> I think it is because of installing amdgpu-pro accidentally.
[20:02] <root_> As in, the proprietary drivers.
[20:02] <jeremyb> root_: try on ircs://irc.spotchat.org/#linuxmint-help
[20:02] <root_> Thanks :)
[20:03] <tomreyn> root_: that's because we don't support linux mint here, just ubuntu
[20:03] <tomreyn> good luck
[20:03] <gambl0re> i accidently xkill'ed my taskbar. how can i get it back?
[20:04] <root_> Write mate-panel in the terminal.
[20:04] <gambl0re> what?
[20:04] <tomreyn> gambl0re: you could just logout and login again. it surely depend son your graphical desktop
[20:04] <gambl0re> im using kubuntu
[20:05] <gambl0re> logging out and logging back in will lose my changes?
[20:05] <tomreyn> gambl0re: root_ was assuming you ran the "mate" window manager, apparently,
[20:05] <gambl0re> and i cant event logout w/o the taskbar
[20:05] <tomreyn> gambl0re: won't loose your changes if you save them beforehand
[20:06] <gambl0re> how do i logout through the terminal
[20:06] <tomreyn> try alt-f4 while looking at the desktop
[20:06] <gambl0re> i already have the terminal opend up
[20:06] <tomreyn> or reboot: press ctrl-alt-f3, then ctrl-alt-del on the text login
[20:06] <qwebirc96446> Hi, I've tried to create a boot usb and dvd many times now for use on my mid-2010 Macbook Pro. It just won't boot into the LTS build at all. It starts loading up the GUI, then goes back to command line where you see a bunch of stuff that it was doing to load up everything, then eventually stops doing anything other than making the screen blank off and on over and over again until I finally hard power it down.
[20:06] <tomreyn> gambl0re: "reboot" on a temrinal will also work. save changes first.
[20:07] <qwebirc96446> The last USB drive I made did that same thing on the live mode where it wasn't actually installed. When I tried to do a straight install, it just does the bongo noise and freezes up after a little bit.
[20:07] <UbuntuUser> Sorry guys. I'm too hasty :| . I thought he meant the mate-panel.
[20:08] <qwebirc96446> I have 10.10 installed just fine on a partition, but I would like something a little more recent to work with. Any ideas?
[20:09] <qwebirc96446> tl;dr, I can't get 14.04 to run on my Macbook pro for some reason.
[20:09] <tomreyn> qwebirc96446: you could try installing ubuntu server and if this boots fine, see if you can add a gui
[20:09] <tomreyn> qwebirc96446: why would you want to get 14.04 to run, which looses support in a month?
[20:09] <tomreyn> use 18.04.2
[20:10] <qwebirc96446> I only said 14.04 because I didn't remember the version of the LTS
[20:10] <qwebirc96446> that is what I am trying to install.
[20:10] <qwebirc96446> 18.04.2
[20:10] <tomreyn> see what i said about server
[20:11] <qwebirc96446> Why would I want to go that route? I already have the iso downloaded and would rather just run the desktop version. Would rather not have to go download yet another image.
[20:11] <qwebirc96446> What I would like to do is to install the new version from within the 10.10 that I was able to install from the old DVD I have laying around.
[20:11] <tomreyn> because with your hardware and firmware apparently running a current graphical linux desktop seems troublesome
[20:12] <OerHeks> use a more lightweight ubuntu, ubuntu mate or xubuntu
[20:12] <ioria> qwebirc96446, can you tell us your hw specs  ?
[20:13] <tomreyn> "mid-2010 Macbook Pro"
[20:13] <qwebirc96446> https://support.apple.com/kb/SP584?locale=en_US
[20:14] <tomreyn> !mac
[20:14] <qwebirc96446> The try option in the bootloader acts like it is going to start fine because I can see the desktop wallpaper with the beaver on it but then it goes back out to the text screen with all the [ OK ]'s on it. That's when it just starts doing the bit where it goes on and off.
[20:15] <ioria> qwebirc96446, have you tried xubuntu or lubuntu ?
[20:15] <qwebirc96446> nope. always tried ubuntu in the past (not on this machine, but in general). thought I would just try it again.
[20:16] <qwebirc96446> guess that was my mistake for trying the simplistic route
[20:16] <ioria> qwebirc96446, what is 'simplistic route' ?
[20:17] <qwebirc96446> downloading an ubuntu distro from the ubuntu website, creating the boot device, and trying to use that???
[20:17] <ioria> qwebirc96446, with no regards at your hw specs ?
[20:18] <tomreyn> what you have there is old, and special purpose hardware/firmware, it won't always work with anything out of the box. linux GUIs also develop over the years.
[20:18] <qwebirc96446> Given the fact that the website says "2 GHz dual core processor or better 2 GB system memory 25 GB of free hard drive space Either a DVD drive or a USB port for the installer media Internet access is helpful" I figured I'd be ok.
[20:19] <ioria> qwebirc96446, if you like the pain,it's ok; boot with nomodeset
[20:19] <qwebirc96446> I mean, the whole "with no regards at your hw specs" bit is not helpful considering the site doesn't say "Hey, you with the older shit, this probably won't work."
[20:20] <ioria> qwebirc96446, try  nomodeset
[20:22] <qwebirc96446> yeah, that doesn't help me much. guess I'll try to figure out where that goes next. Obviously I haven't done this in a very long time, so I am not remembering much about it at all.
[20:22] <OerHeks> yeah, please go on with the rant, instead you could try xubuntu on usb
[20:22] <ioria> !nomodeset | qwebirc96446
[20:22] <ioria> 256mb
[20:25] <qwebirc96446> ok, so nomodeset let the live version boot up.
[20:26] <ioria> Intel Core 2 Duo  is 2006
[20:26] <qwebirc96446> OerHeks, I haven't tried that or the other one mentioned because I don't know what they are, honestly. I just thought coming in here and asking for help with the base version would be alright to do. Apparently not.
[20:27] <OerHeks> we appreciate your asking for help, no worry about that
[20:27] <qwebirc96446> well, that isn't really much how it has felt so far.  I am thinking it's because I only have 4GB of ram in it.
[20:30] <qwebirc96446> ioria, and I'm trying to read up on what that xubuntu is exactly.
[20:31] <ioria> qwebirc96446, it's ubuntu but with a lighter DE env (xfce); that's all
[20:32] <ioria> qwebirc96446, the problem it's not ubuntu (main) but the DE; i run 16.04 with 256mb (lxde)
[20:32] <qwebirc96446> DE = desktop environment?
[20:33] <ioria> yep
[20:33] <Bashing-om> qwebirc96446: I run an old 2007 Athlon dual core - 4 gigs of ram is slow with ubuntu as the DE. Runs well with xubuntu.
[20:33] <qwebirc96446> What I remember from this is from about 2006, so you guys have to understand I'm VERY rusty with it. At least that's the last time I remember working with it. I am not sure when I got this 10.10 disc.
[20:34] <qwebirc96446> I remember back in the day you had Gnome and KDE.
[20:34] <ioria> maverick is great; it was my first ubuntu version
[20:34] <qwebirc96446> I'm guessing it is quite more complex than that
[20:35] <OerHeks> !flavors
[20:36] <OerHeks> and besides these iso's, there are tons of other WM and DE
[20:36] <Bashing-om> qwebirc96446: Since the 10.10 release the demands on a GUI have grown tremendously :( Now-a-days ya got to have the hosses to run the top end desktops.
[20:39] <Gerowen> Bashing-om: I haven't fooled with KDE in a very long time, but Gnome 3 isn't too bad.  IIRC, it even has a "simple" mode that turns off all the animations and whatnot.
[20:40] <Bashing-om> Gerowen: I mess about a lot - presently have 4 'buntu installs. My preference remains as xfce.
[20:40] <qwebirc96446> Bashing-om, yeah, apparently. LOL Like I said, I was just hoping to put something on this laptop that made it not so miserable to use. :)
[20:41] <Gerowen> Ah I must have missed that part of the conversation since I just logged in.
[20:41] <Bashing-om> qwebirc96446: I do mess abot a lot .. my work flow and thought processes ... xfce for the win .
[20:42] <ioria> the only issue is the support time . 3 y vs 5 y
[20:42] <qwebirc96446> My main thing at this point is hoping that linux has matured a lot where you can do pretty equivalent stuff on it like you can on Mac or Windows.
[20:42] <Gerowen> If you're having problems with Gnome or KDE, XFCE is probably the best balance between system resources required and usability/features.
[20:43] <Bashing-om> qwebirc96446: You may be pleasantly surprised with the Wayland DE .. it does run well on this old hardware .. and is impressive.
[20:43] <qwebirc96446> Wayland? Is that what is in xubuntu?
[20:43] <qwebirc96446> Seems like there might be a few too many distros to keep up with. LOL
[20:43] <ioria> Bashing-om, we have wayland on xubuntu ?
[20:46] <Bashing-om> qwebirc96446: Wayland is the Gnome3/18.04 alternative desktop environment available on the default install if ya so choose it.
[20:46] <blackflow> There's no such thing as Wayland DE. Wayland is a protocol. Please people, let's mind technical correctness.
[20:46] <blackflow> It's still gnome. Mutter is a wayland compositor.
[20:47] <Bashing-om> ioria: Last I was aware .. xubuntu was not going to support Wayland :(
[20:47] <ioria> yep
[20:47] <ioria> only gnome (for now)
[20:47] <blackflow> it might, with Mir (another Wayland compositor), which is also considered by MATE.
[20:48] <qwebirc96446> So, why is 18.04 LTS and 18.10 just 9 months? Is .10 like a beta version without the beta label?
[20:49] <ioria> yes (s a)
[20:50] <compdoc> LTS only comes out every couple years, but is supported for 10 years now
[20:51] <compdoc> the others are for testing new kernels and features, before going into an LTS version
[20:51] <ioria> not sure about the 10 y thing
[20:52] <Gerowen> Stupid question
[20:52] <qwebirc96446> hey, that's my job
[20:52] <Gerowen> I set up SSH on my server ages ago and need to change the login message I get.  However, it's not in issue.net and I can't seem to find what file it's in when I read sshd_config
[20:52] <Gerowen> It's been so long since I set it up I forgot where I put it, :p
[20:53] <Gerowen> Just wanting to update that message.
[20:53] <blackflow> Gerowen: you probably mean /etc/motd
[20:53] <Gerowen> blackflow: That's it, thanks, :-)
[20:53] <compdoc> Mark Shuttleworth Reveals Ubuntu 18.04 Will Get a 10-Year Support Lifespan.
[20:53] <blackflow> Gerowen: note however that on modern 'buntus, motd is dynamic, and /etc/motd is just one component of the entire message.
[20:54] <blackflow> compdoc: yes but not for general public. the extra 5 yrs will be via ESM
[20:54] <compdoc> grrr
[20:55] <OerHeks> i wonder who will run a linux version today, older than 3 years, but this is more subject for #ubuntu-discuss
[20:55] <Gerowen> Well the server is "actually" a Debian and not Ubuntu system, but I figured the location would be the same.  When Debian 9 runs out I'm going to migrate it to Ubuntu server.  It hosts several services, and a few of them I've had to manually pull in newer deps from the backports and whatnot because the stuff in regular Debian stable is SO OLD.
[20:56] <blackflow> OerHeks: IoT gadgets primarily and stuff like that.
[20:56] <qwebirc96446> crap, I've done something to my grub and now it isn't seeing my windows partition or anything. All it says is error: unknown filesystem followed by grub rescue> on the next line.
[20:57] <blackflow> Gerowen: as old as Ubuntu LTS after 2 years
[20:58] <tomreyn> authorities and companies who have to certify / review software changes also will benefit from 'static' desktop versions.
[20:59] <tomreyn> and right, this belongs to -discuss, sorry
[21:00] <Malgorath> Hello, I just installed 18.04 on a HP z620 Workstation. I had Windows 10 on it and everything was good.  My question is I am looking at a RAID partition that should be 14.x TB but it shows it as 2TB. And ideas or pointers?
[21:02] <Malgorath> Nvm I'll just seperate the raid array.
[21:03] <qwebirc96446> I was going to say something about how some filesystems can't read over 2, but then remembered that was GB, not TB, so I dunno.
[21:34] <qwebirc96446> So, where I am now, on this MacBook Pro I had my MacOS install, Windows 10, and then I put the 10.10 version on it. Well, somewhere along the way of putting 18.04.1 on it, I've messed up the grub on the main Windows partition.
[21:34] <qwebirc96446> I can't seem to boot into Windows anymore. On the boot screen for it I see my MacOS, the recovery for it, Windows, and Boot EFI as the options to choose from.
[21:35] <qwebirc96446> When I choose the Windows one, it has that "grub rescue>" bit on it and says "unknown filesystem" above that.
[21:35] <qwebirc96446> On the Boot EFI option, it boots straight into Xubuntu.
[21:35] <qwebirc96446> Any idea how to fix it where I can boot into Windows again?
[21:37] <tomreyn> this sounds like you overwrote some of your windows installation, so it can no longer be booted. but then, this is me suspecting things - yuo're not saying what you did exactly to break it. do you remember?
[21:37] <OerHeks> is that windows installed in uefi mode?
[21:38] <spacemanjr> @qwebirc96446, did you install ubuntu on separate partition?
[21:39] <qwebirc96446> Well, once I got Ubuntu 18.04.1 to boot with the nomodeset option into Live mode, I figured what the heck and tried to install it over my 10.10. It went through just fine apparently. When it got done, it told me I can keep trying it in Live mode or restart. I chose restart. When I thought it was safe, I pulled the usb.
[21:40] <qwebirc96446> It might not have been safe to do so right then because I saw a bunch of messages start scrolling by. It didn't look like it would restart on its own, so I turned off the computer. I'm fairly sure all the writing and setup stuff was already done because it told me I could restart and all that. If it weren't done, it wouldn't have said that. Anyway, after that, it wouldn't act right in grub.
[21:40] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: Hey! Just wanted to say thank you, Network Manager configuration woker perfectly. Seems like such a smoother execution than macchanger. Anyways, thanks again, and have a good weekend!
[21:42] <spacemanjr> @qwebirc96446, can you boot in windows from grub
[21:42] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: nice, glad you got it to work. have a nice weekend, too!
[21:42] <qwebirc96446> spacemanjr, no, that's what I'm saying it shows that "grub rescue>" bit and says "unknown filesystem" above that.
[21:44] <jeremyb> qwebirc96446: Is there an option in BIOS for OS Boot Manager?  I know newer HP's do
[21:44] <qwebirc96446> this is a macbook
[21:45] <jeremyb> It might be trying to use the wrong partition when trying to load windows
[21:48] <qwebirc96446> well, since it is at "grub rescue>" I'm not sure what to do. I don't know how to work with that prompt.
[21:50] <jeremyb> qwebirc96446: some commands like ls work, you could search to see how to load windows from grub rescue
[21:50] <MisterMom> qwebirc96446, check this web site out,  https://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home/Home/
[21:50] <tomreyn> qwebirc96446: if pulling the usb key early is the only potential mistake you made there then i don't think this would have caused grub chainloading to windows not to work. but it's difficult to diagnose this remotely.
[21:51] <qwebirc96446> tomreyn, that's what I was thinking, too. I'm thinking something in the install of Ubuntu 18.04.1 messed it up somehow. And, like I said, I pulled it during the restart process when it shouldn't have made much of a difference anyway other than saving state of the system.
[21:52] <qwebirc96446> MisterMom, that looks like a good place to start. Thanks. I'll look at that.
[21:57] <MormonSon> Hello, I am looking at a 18.04 Ubuntu Install with Docker, docker after a recent reboot has failed to start with the error "Error starting daemon: error initializing graphdriver: driver not supported" mentioning AUFS
[21:57] <MormonSon> any tips on how to resolve this?
[21:59] <qwebirc96446> Well, crap. Saying "GPT detected. Please creat a BIOS-Boot parition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flagg). This can be performed via tools such as Gparted. Then try again. Alternatively, you can retry after activating the [Separate/boot/efi partition:] option."
[22:00] <qwebirc96446> The separate /boot/efi parition lists 2 options, though. That's what's throwing me. Not sure which to choose. I am thinking sda1 is Mac and sda4 is Windows, but that's just a guess.
[22:00] <qwebirc96446> I'm thinking I should choose 4.
[22:04] <MisterMom> qwebirc96446, I'm not familiar with Mac dual installs
[22:04] <qwebirc96446> Yeah, didn't figure you were. LOL Not something most know about.
[22:05] <qwebirc96446> I'm just figuring 1 is the main MacOS install location. Otherwise, it wouldn't be the first thing to pop up when you hold down option at boot. Just trying to make an educated guess on it, anyway. LOL
[22:06] <Bashing-om> qwebirc96446: I too not familiar with Mac/UEFI; but could it be that Windows was installed in UEFI mode and 'buntu in MBR (legacy) mode ?
[22:07] <MisterMom> thats what im thinking
[22:07] <qwebirc96446> Maybe???????
[22:07] <qwebirc96446> Don't remember seeing anything like that in the options upon install
[22:08] <qwebirc96446> I do remember it asking me if I wanted to be automatically logged in and I forgot to check that. LOL
[22:08] <jeremyb> Sounds like the Live USB was run in Legacy mode
[22:09] <qwebirc96446> Know how to read the ubuntu pastebin that is put out by the boot repair program? :)
[22:10] <MisterMom> qwebirc96446, it should give you a link when it finishes running
[22:11] <qwebirc96446> it did. it put out this http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mbbqY8GYKn/
[22:12] <MisterMom> maybe someone here can make sense of it
[22:12] <qwebirc96446> going by what that says, maybe 1 was the main windows location. dunno. confused. lol
[22:13] <qwebirc96446> I guess if nothing else no great loss. didn't use windows much on that laptop anyway.
[22:13] <JFlash> hi
[22:13] <qwebirc96446> just figured it would be nice to leave it as it were
[22:13] <qwebirc96446> or was rather
[22:13] <JFlash> can someone help me share my internet connection from my laptop to my ubuntu pc?
[22:13] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: any option to boot the Ubuntu ISO in EFI mode?
[22:14] <qwebirc96446> No idea. not even working off that USB anymore. Xubuntu has been installed.
[22:15] <qwebirc96446> Or, well, it was. Since I tried to run that boot repair it doesn't boot into Xubuntu anymore
[22:15] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: I think there is a tutorial somewhere on how to make the switch from Legacy Boot to EFI boot
[22:15] <JFlash> i tried a lot of things like "bridging the wifi and eth0" connections on windows
[22:15] <JFlash> I never get a ping to work on ubuntu thou
[22:16] <JFlash> i have enabled ics on windows for the eth connection
[22:16] <qwebirc96446> Well, don't guess it matters. Boot repair messed it up. Won't boot into Xubuntu anymore.
[22:16] <RtMF> JFlash: ...proxy_arp?...iptables forwarding table?...sysctl forwarding settinsg? (I have to grep sysctl -a every time :/ stupid meatspace memory bio-goo stuff...)
[22:16] <RtMF> s/sg/gs/
[22:17] <JFlash> BtMF, thanks for responding I'm not that computer savvy thou
[22:17] <JFlash> RtMF, thanks for responding I'm not that computer savvy thou
[22:17] <qwebirc96446> *tho or though
[22:17] <RtMF> said bio-goo can't even predict signalling delay to my hands well enough to avoid the occasional wrong-key-first among left/right hand
[22:17] <RtMF> ...
[22:17] <RtMF> hard to say well
[22:17] <RtMF> [at least concisely and potentially hilariously]
[22:18]  * RtMF shrugs
[22:18] <RtMF> anyway
[22:18] <RtMF> lol "among left/right hand" wtf? >.>
[22:18] <JFlash> RtMF, I was  expecting some box that I could add a number to or checkboxes
[22:18]  * RtMF nods "I suspect they exist in ubuntu tbh"'
[22:18] <RtMF> I just haven't done it myself
[22:18] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: Don't change anything and post that grub repair file at ubuntuforums.org in apple hardware users subforum
[22:18] <JFlash> how can I diagnose this?
[22:18]  * RtMF forgot to check which channel, doesnt' drop by here that much, soz
[22:19] <Bashing-om> qwebirc96446: Frim your xubuntu install running ' [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS ' will tell you if you're booted via UEFI or MBR (bios in this case).
[22:19] <qwebirc96446> Bashing-om: it doesn't boot anymore since running boot-repair
[22:19] <qwebirc96446> Bashing-om: thinking I have to start over again. This time I'll wipe the Xubuntu partitions.
[22:20] <Bashing-om> qwebirc96446: Ouch . I am not litterate now to help :(
[22:20] <RtMF> but I have in the past had at least one (ndiswrapper-only) wifi card that'd bridge mode just fine in windows and not under linux...this was back when a 400MHz amd? pentium? laptop was just starting to get old, desktop was a 1GHz athlon space-heater, and $CURRENT_PROJECT was compiz-quinnstorm/beryl
[22:20] <qwebirc96446> It's cool
[22:20]  * QuinnStorm waves
[22:20] <qwebirc96446> It's always been learn as you go for me and Linux. :)
[22:22] <qwebirc96446> Thankfully the reinstall of Xubuntu doesn't take that long and I have nothing on it yet.
[22:23] <JFlash> hi, where I can get help getting internet connection on my ubuntu linux box?
[22:23] <JFlash> getting it to work, I mean
[22:23] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: It appears windows was installed in EFI mode, not sure what Mac OS uses
[22:23] <qwebirc96446> jeremy31: I'm thinking it is an EFI booter as well
[22:23] <Bashing-om> qwebirc96446: Win10 is UEFI. make sure you boot the xubuntu installer in UEFI mode also .
[22:24] <qwebirc96446> at least the newer versions
[22:24] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: The ISO can boot either way
[22:24] <qwebirc96446> No idea how to choose that.
[22:25] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: any boot menu when the USB is in?  With my Lenovo with legacy and EFI enabled I see 2 options for booting the USB
[22:26] <qwebirc96446> When you boot, it lists two USB icons in the chooser that both says EFI on them. I have tried choosing both and they both start it up.
[22:27] <qwebirc96446> I'm fairly certain it is booting in EFI mode because in the Apple boot loader where you can select it, that is all that shows.
[22:27] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: When booted check the command that Bashing-om posted
[22:27] <JFlash> show I use "brigde connections" to enable my linux computer use my windows laptop wifi connection for internet?
[22:27] <JFlash> should*
[22:27] <qwebirc96446> JFlash, why can't you just run a cable to it or use the wifi that the windows machine is using?
[22:28] <JFlash> I dont own a cable and it's raining strong
[22:28] <qwebirc96446> shouldn't have to share anything. if one has access, the other should as well.
[22:28] <JFlash> I mean, I dont have a router in my bedroom
[22:28] <JFlash> the connection I have is the wifi on the laptop
[22:29] <JFlash> that's not how it works
[22:29] <qwebirc96446> you are trying to get the linux box to use the internet, right?
[22:29] <JFlash> yes
[22:29] <qwebirc96446> the windows machine is the laptop?
[22:29] <qwebirc96446> does the linux box not have wifi in it?
[22:29] <JFlash> I have a yellow ethernet cable that I joined the  2 computers
[22:30] <JFlash> no, the linux doens have wifi
[22:30] <JFlash> doesn't*
[22:30] <qwebirc96446> well, I'm not sure about new computers, but back in the day you couldn't just connect a cable between two computers and it would work. You had to have a crossover cable.
[22:30] <qwebirc96446> I don't know if newer machines do auto-crossover if needed or not
[22:30] <tomreyn> they do
[22:30] <JFlash> I have read that i no longer needs to be a crossover cable
[22:31] <JFlash> see I can get one computer to connect to the other
[22:31] <JFlash> but internet doens work and depending on what I change it completely changes the outcome of the ping command
[22:32] <JFlash> right now ping hangs forever without a response
[22:32] <qwebirc96446> Bashing-om and jeremy31, it says it is UEFI
[22:32] <tomreyn> do you have an android "smartphone", JFlash? if so you, can use it to bring the linux system online via wireless.
[22:32] <JFlash> tomreyn: yeah that's hwo I have done it before, a few months ago. That will be my last option
[22:32] <qwebirc96446> tomreyn, the linux box doesn't have wireless he claims
[22:32] <JFlash> for now I would like to try the ethernet option
[22:33] <JFlash> qwebirc96446: he means use the phone pluged to the usb of the linux box
[22:33] <tomreyn> JFlash: but, yes, the ethernet connection sharing approach *should* work, too. it may involve more than just click on the GUI.
[22:34] <JFlash> tomreyn: agreed, but how to diagnose it
[22:34] <qwebirc96446> In windows, if I am not mistaked, should choose the wifi and ethernet cards and choose bridge connections
[22:34] <JFlash> yeah that is the last thing I tried
[22:34] <SimonNL> ipv4 settings, share with other users
[22:34] <JFlash> ping on ubuntu hangs forever
[22:35] <tomreyn> JFlash: diagnosing form linux is easy: you try to ping to the internet, ideally by ip, e.g. <IP_ADDRESS>. if it doesn't work, then something is wrong with the connection sharing on windows (which is off-topic here).
[22:35] <JFlash> SimonNL: It seem I had to disable that to bridge the connections
[22:36] <lixiyong> 111
[22:36] <tomreyn> there is ##windows
[22:36] <JFlash> I got a message like this:  to bridge connections you should choose connections which are not shared bla bla bla
[22:36] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: I have PM disabled
[22:36] <JFlash> tomreyn: that makes sense
[22:36] <qwebirc96446> lol, ok
[22:36] <browndog> I just installed the Thunderbird snap package in 18.10. Does anyone know where it keeps my profile folder, and is anyone aware of an error message saying that it can't update because "this account" doesn't have the needed permissions?
[22:37] <qwebirc96446> jeremy31: anyway, yeah, like I said, it is booted in UEFI mode, so that should be kosher with all the other installs.
[22:37] <SimonNL> https://imgur.com/a/rot7jH4  works for me JFlash
[22:38] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: try command in terminal> mokutil --sb-state
[22:38] <jeremy31> Might not work on Mac
[22:38] <qwebirc96446> jeremy31: This system doesn't support Secure Boot
[22:39] <fleabeard> hello beautiful people of #ubuntu! I hope you're having a great weekend! That is all!
[22:39] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: It must be loaded in EFI then as I think the other answer is something about not supporting EFI variables
[22:40] <qwebirc96446> I think the boot-repair messed up because I chose 4 instead of 1. Looking at gparted it looks like 1 is the EFI system partition is located.
[22:40] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: grub gets it right if the ISO is booted in correct mode
[22:40] <SimonNL> JFlash: do you have it working ?
[22:40] <qwebirc96446> meh, it's all my fault because I am trying to do a triple boot. LOL
[22:41] <JFlash> SimonNL:  in my case the host is a windows machine
[22:41] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: somehow it got installed in legacy mode before
[22:41] <qwebirc96446> jeremy31: I'm wasn't running the ISO at the point of having the no-boot-into-windows issue. It was running off the install on the HD.
[22:42] <qwebirc96446> jeremy31: I don't think that was possible to do. It has no ability to default to legacy. This machine only does EFI
[22:42] <SimonNL> JFlash: set it to share connection via ethernet
[22:43] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: the boot repair info shows otherwise
[22:43] <qwebirc96446> jeremy31: where did you see that? I must have missed it.
[22:44] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: Grub2 (v1.97-1.98) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda
[22:44] <qwebirc96446> that may have been residual from 10.10
[22:44] <chris349> I have Ubuntu 18.04 thats crashing. Basically Ill be using the computer and it kicks me off to the login screen. I can see some results of this in the journalctl but I cant find any long showing the cause (what exactly is crashing)
[22:44] <qwebirc96446> where else would it be installed?
[22:45] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: /dev/sda5 is weird too Grub2's core.img
[22:45] <qwebirc96446> jeremy31: yeah, not sure what that is about
[22:46] <qwebirc96446> jeremy31: like I asked, though, where else would the grub be installed if not in the MBR?
[22:47] <browndog> I just installed the Thunderbird snap package in 18.10. Does anyone know where it keeps my profile folder?
[22:48] <aymen> hello
[22:50] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: in EFI, grub files should be in the EFI system partition
[22:50] <qwebirc96446> jeremy31: there is no EFI system partition
[22:51] <MisterMom> browndog, do you have a snap directory in your home directory ?
[22:51] <browndog> Yes, I do.
[22:51] <browndog> MisterMom
[22:51] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: look at line 231 of http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mbbqY8GYKn/
[22:52] <qwebirc96446> jeremy31: ahh, yeah, that's one of the two options I saw when I ran boot-repair. I chose the wrong one there. LOL
[22:52] <MisterMom> browndog, did you look there ? im using a regular install of thunderbird so i cant tell you if its in there or not
[22:52] <browndog> Thank you MisterMom! I just found my profile folder!!!
[22:52] <MisterMom> browndog,  your welcome
[22:53] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: line 280 shows the mistake, picked sda4 and made it EFI
[22:54] <jeremy31> sda4 was Windows
[22:54] <qwebirc96446> jeremy31: so if I run boot-repair again on the new install, I should choose sda1.
[22:55] <jeremy31> I wouldn't run boot repair again
[22:55] <qwebirc96446> jeremy31: I completely reinstalled
[22:56] <qwebirc96446> And it is still messed up
[22:56] <qwebirc96446> the grub that is
[22:57] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: post on ubuntuforums.org in the Apple hardware users subforum https://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=328 or search it to see if someone has done this before
[22:59] <reallymemorable> I have an existing ubuntu laptop and I want to boot a different OS from a USB.
[22:59] <JFlash> hi, sorry, lost connection
[22:59] <reallymemorable> How do I get ubuntu to look for a USB when booting
[22:59] <JFlash> SimonNL: I tried both with sharing enable and also creating a bridge on windows. Here's what happens:
[22:59] <SimonNL> 0^0
[22:59] <JFlash> SimonNL:  with sharing I get "network is unreachable"
[23:00] <JFlash> SimonNL:  with bridge ping hangs forever
[23:00] <qwebirc96446> jeremy31: Wondering, what does "Please do not forget to make your BIOS boot on sda1 /EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi file!" mean exactly?
[23:00] <OerHeks> reallymemorable, not, you need to set bootorder in the bios of the machine
[23:00] <jeremy31> reallymemorable: That is a boot menu option, not Ubuntu
[23:00] <JFlash> SimonNL: there are some network configs on linux like "dhcp", "link local" etc
[23:00] <reallymemorable> how do i set bootorder
[23:01] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: MAC's have no BIOS like settings do they?
[23:01] <OerHeks> reallymemorable, see the manual of your machine? any vendor bios is defferent
[23:01] <JFlash> SimonNL: that you have to configure for it to work. but for me it still does not work
[23:01] <qwebirc96446> reallymemorable: like they said, that is in your BIOS. Hold del or F1 or whatever the BIOS key is and do it in there.
[23:01] <qwebirc96446> jeremy31: No, not that I've ever seen.
[23:01] <reallymemorable> ah ok
[23:01] <SimonNL> JFlash: ethernet on laptop set to bridge and connected by cable to the desktop?
[23:01] <reallymemorable> so i will look for macbook air BIOS key
[23:02] <qwebirc96446> There is none. On a Mac, hold down Option after you hear the happy bong noise when it starts
[23:03] <qwebirc96446> jeremy31: i know you said don't run boot-repair again, but I did. LOL Anyway, it is tellin me a new URL for the output, but there isn't anything there when I try to go to it. Weird.
[23:03] <qwebirc96446> nm, forgot the /p/. LOL
[23:03] <JFlash> SimonNL:  selected Wifi and Ethernet on laptop an chose "bridge"
[23:03] <jeremy31> qwebirc96446: post URL here
[23:04] <reallymemorable> the macbook air has ubuntu on it
[23:04] <qwebirc96446> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KkWfxssM7P/
[23:04] <reallymemorable> its still the option key?
[23:04] <SimonNL> JFlash: only set ethernet to share
[23:04] <qwebirc96446> reallymemorable: Yup, that will bring up the loader that lets you choose.
[23:04] <JFlash> SimonNL: those are diffrent things
[23:04] <reallymemorable> ah yes that worked
[23:05] <reallymemorable> thank you guys
[23:05] <JFlash> SimonNL:  bridge and sharing are alternative from what  Icould tell , i dont try them at the same time
[23:05] <JFlash> SimonNL:  btw, on ubuntu if the connection is DHCP it never connects to the laptop
[23:05] <SimonNL> JFlash: I'm understanding you set both wifi and ethernet to shared am I right?
[23:06] <JFlash> SimonNL:  no. I use them to create a bridged connection, that's something else
[23:06] <qwebirc96446> JFlash: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-networking/internet-connection-sharing-in-windows-10/f6dcac4b-5203-4c98-8cf2-dcac86d98fb9?auth=1
[23:06] <JFlash> SimonNL:  another strategy is what you are suggesting, forget bridge and just set ethernet connection as shared
[23:06] <SimonNL> JFlash: is sharing an option in windows ?
[23:07] <qwebirc31544> Wlan0 etc is not showing up
[23:07] <qwebirc31544> Although I do have a networking card
[23:07] <SimonNL> JFlash: thats the only way I am familiar with
[23:07] <JFlash> SimonNL:  np. tried that, says "network unreachable on ubuntu"
[23:08] <JFlash> qwebirc31544:  will read, thanks
[23:09] <OerHeks> qwebirc31544, did you try these steps? https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-troubleshooting.html.en
[23:10] <SimonNL> JFlash: try settings it up as I said then disable network manager and enable it again
[23:11] <JFlash> qwebirc31544: it tells me to choose " Microsoft Hosted Virtual Adapter." but I dont have that option
[23:11] <SimonNL> JFlash: then run ifconfig in terminal and see if both nics have ip
[23:11] <JFlash> qwebirc31544: I'm googling about it
[23:11] <qwebirc31544> Okay
[23:11] <qwebirc31544> I potentially set it up incorrectly
[23:11] <qwebirc31544> As at that point I had access to Ethernet cabling
[23:13] <chris349> I found the log, it says /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg crashed. Not sure what to do with that info...
[23:14] <ph88> how do i remove "amazon" pre-installed app from the command line ?
[23:14] <qwebirc96446> Ok, you guys started talking to a new arrival I think. LOL
[23:15] <steveken> there, don't know why I didn't remember to do that earlier. LOL
[23:15] <steveken> I am teh one that gave JFlash the link. :)
[23:16] <JFlash> steveken:  that page has lots of complete information, main instructions is to share connection by wifi, I net to share by ethernet
[23:16] <JFlash> incomplete* information
[23:16] <steveken> yeah, well, all I did to come up with that is to search google. LOL
[23:16] <steveken> you are really wanting windows help anyway because what you are trying to do is from windows and not ubuntu. :)
[23:17] <steveken> jeremy31: had a chance to look at that new pastebin I did?
[23:17] <OerHeks> ph88, easy to find in softwarecenter
[23:17] <OerHeks> it is just a desktop file sudo rm -rf /usr/share/applications/ubuntu-amazon-default.desktop
[23:17] <faLUCE> Hello. Is there a javascript text editor (with embedded webserver) for ubuntu/debian easy to install? (apt-get)
[23:18] <ph88> OerHeks, i can't uninstall it with apt ?
[23:18] <OerHeks> ph88, no
[23:19] <ph88> what's monodoc ? this is also in my apps
[23:19] <jamie> Any ideas anyone
[23:19] <JFlash> steveken:  I agree
[23:25] <steveken> jamie: Wlan0 refers to a wireless adapter, not ethernet.
[23:25] <OerHeks> sure it is wlan0 ?
[23:25] <pi0> shoot i removed my settings
[23:26] <pi0> with synpatic by error
[23:26] <pi0> how do i reinstall that
[23:28] <jeremy31> steveken: The last results look like the Windows EFI entries were removed, not sure why
[23:28] <steveken> jeremy31: looks like somehow the windows partition is the one that got changed to MBR. To install it, it had to be GPT, so I don't know how that happened.
[23:29] <steveken> jeremy31: that may be what is screwing the whole thing up
[23:31] <jeremy31> steveken: not possible for a partition to become MBR but the results from boot repair don't make a lot a sense to me, I thought it must be something about being on a Mac
[23:32] <steveken> I only figured out that part because when I went back into Windows Setup to try to fix it from there, it is telling me I can do a reinstall because of the partition being wrong.
[23:32] <steveken> starting to get a bit pissed. LOL
[23:33] <pi0> how do i remove icons from activities
[23:33] <pi0> i see a logout, reboot, shutdown
[23:34] <OerHeks> i think you should not remove those icons
[23:34] <OerHeks> pi0, on what linux is this?
[23:34] <pi0> 18.04
[23:34] <pi0> its a grey box
[23:34] <pi0> logout
[23:35] <pi0> more like a short cut
[23:35] <pi0> i think
[23:36] <OerHeks> maybe it has something to do with "i removed my settings" ??
[23:36] <qwebirc84791> Any ideas of help for my networking
[23:37] <pi0> dang it
[23:38] <steveken> jeremy31: the overall partition map for the hard drive is GUID, so this is all weird.
[23:40] <pi0> sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-control-center this repaired it
[23:40] <pi0> now i need to remove those links
[23:40] <pi0> in the activitie
[23:40] <pi0> s
[23:40] <jeremy31> steveken: Yes and it has an EFI system partition that once had windows boot EFI files only.  I don't think I have any answers for this configuration
[23:41] <steveken> yeah, something from the change from 10.10 to 18.04 screwed the pooch it seems
[23:46] <potatowrangler> The redheaded stranger.
[23:51] <pi0> is there anything better than veracrypt
[23:51] <steveken> Isn't grub2 core.img the grub bootloader partition?
[23:53] <steveken> and what does "Force GRUB into: sda6 (for chainloader)" mean?
[23:53] <mulletman> Has anyone sucessfully installed waifu2x-caffe for Ubuntu?
[23:54] <mulletman> It seems the only thing out there is source, I think, I am not sure because the only thing I can find for waifu2x caffe for linux is https://github.com/nagadomi/waifu2x-caffe-ubuntu and that leads me to a page thats in japanese
[23:55] <maetthew> Can I set anything but the default launcher shorcut to meta/windows key?
[23:55] <maetthew> Oops wrong channel sry