[16:35] <edbian_> skullboy, Did you do something with your install?  I remember you were going to reinstall and move partitions or soemthing
[16:36] <error_203> no one to help me
[16:36] <sipior> ThunderStruck: if you can't be funny, could you at least be original?
[16:36] <skullboy> no but that is why i wanted to do that
[16:36] <ZykoticK9> error_203, select the username and the password box should appear
[16:36] <skullboy> that and i seen an os i really want
[16:36] <edbian_> skullboy, can you pastebin dmesg for me?   What do you mean by software index?
[16:36] <edbian_> skullboy, What OS do you want that you saw?
[16:36] <error_203> zykotick9:no  it doesnot appear
[16:37] <edbian_> skullboy, Please start your sentences with my name like I'm doing for you.  It highlights it for me
[16:37] <skullboy> gnacktrack
[16:37] <mikeg3> cant update ubuntu output http://paste.ubuntu.com/543683/
[16:37] <edbian_> skullboy, gnacktrack huh
[16:37] <skullboy> its ubuntu but it has all the backtrack apps and ubuntu apps
[16:37] <error_203> zykotick9:the password box is missing
[16:37] <bastidrazor> error_203: press enter
[16:38] <ZykoticK9> error_203, sorry - i have no idea then.  best of luck.
[16:38] <edbian_> skullboy, neat.
[16:38] <Some_One> may i have some attention now .. ?
[16:38] <error_203> bastidarzor:no thats not work
[16:38] <edbian_> skullboy, Please start your sentences with my name
[16:38] <gogeta1> edbian_: genrel rule with overclocking dont go past the hardware tolerance aka whats its real max is
[16:38] <edbian_> gogeta1, I don't think he's overclocking at all but thank you
[16:38] <Roasted_> Has there been any reports of newer Ubuntu kernels messing up Intel wireless? I just booted up 10.04 on my laptop and the wireless came back as disabled, yet I had it enabled on the hardware radio switch on the laptop. Booted to the oldest kernel with 10.04 and it worked. Just curious if anybody knows offhand if there were any widespread issues I should be aware of.
[16:38] <edbian_> Some_One, Just restate your question every so often and people will take notice.
[16:39] <sipior> Some_One: best to repeat your question at ten minute intervals, or thereabouts.
[16:39] <error_203> bastidrazor: used various commands also in alt+ctrl+f1 mode but it doesmot also worked
[16:39] <skullboy> edbian, so redo it???
[16:39] <fleshpike> what s the difference between ata 100 and ata 133?
[16:39] <edbian_> skullboy, What is your goal right now?  To fix the Ubuntu install or just to install gnacktrack?
[16:40] <skullboy> to fix ubuntu
[16:40] <Some_One> edbian_, sipior  i am facing issue regarding wireless communication, i am using TP Link wireless adapter model TL-WN727N, i am having 10.4 and system is showing full signal strenght
[16:40] <sipior> Some_One: tell the channel, not me.
[16:40] <sudipta> is there a linux version of utorrent available?
[16:40] <edbian_> skullboy, alright than post your dmesg to pastebin
[16:40] <shingen> fleshpike: about 33mb/s... ATA133 is backwards compatiblee
[16:40] <edbian_> sudipta, You want utorrent or just any torrent downloader?
[16:40] <Some_One> as well connected, but i am unable to browse, or even open my router setting
[16:41] <skullboy> command not found
[16:41] <edbian_> skullboy, typo?  dmesg
[16:41] <gogeta1> shingen: i beleve all ata is back compact same for sata
[16:41] <rm_work> sudipta: i believe there was a beta... not sure if it went live yet... but it runs great for me in WINE
[16:41] <ServerTechLaptop> How can i access my usb drive in ubuntu server edition?
[16:41] <edbian_> skullboy, Please start your sentences with my name.
[16:41] <Redcoil> Hi
[16:41] <error_203> bastidrazor:on clicking upon  usernames it shows queez/sid
utorrent would be great....
[16:41] <Some_One> edbian_, sipior  i am facing issue regarding wireless communication, i am using TP Link wireless adapter model TL-WN727N, i am having 10.4 and system is showing full signal strenght, but unable to use internet,
[16:42] <fleshpike> shingen : let s see if i understood, are there 133 and 100 hard drives?
[16:42] <jocrawfo> hey guys i am trying to create a file with a list of all packages installed on one machine so that i may take that file to another machine and make sure those packages are installed there.  I have done this in the past however I am getting errors this time
[16:42] <Some_One> sorry sipior :/ i just repeat
[16:42] <skullboy> edbain, command not found still most of my commands will come up as not found
[16:42] <gogeta1> fleshpike: thers 133 100 66
[16:42] <Redcoil> Someone proficient with Linux on a Mac here?
[16:42] <bastidrazor> error_203: sounds like you're using debian and not ubuntu.
[16:42] <jocrawfo> aptitude –display-format ‘%p’ search ‘?installed!?automatic’ > ~/my-packages ------> Results in: bash: !?automatic’ > ~/my-packages: event not found
[16:42] <sipior> Some_One: don't, then.
[16:42] <jocrawfo> any thoughts on what I could do?
[16:42] <edbian_> skullboy, really?  I think something is majorly wrong with your install.  Can you use cd?
[16:42] <error_203> no
[16:42] <error_203> m ubuntu
[16:42] <aeon-ltd> !who | skullboy
[16:43] <edbian_> !tab | skullboy
[16:43] <fleshpike> gogetal : if i have a ata 133 hard drive will it fit a ata 100 motherboard?
[16:43] <gogeta1> fleshpike: you can pretty mutch use any hdd in any system thers even sata to ide adaptors
[16:43] <skullboy> edbian, it only beeb like that lately
[16:43] <Pici> !ot | fleshpike
[16:43] <gogeta1> fleshpike: yes but it will go 100 speeds
[16:43] <bbeattie> I've installed the nvidia 260.19.29 module for 10.04. I now need to compile some OpenGL apps and but need to pull a gl headers, (ie, gl.h, glu.h, etc) do the ones in mesa-common-dev work or should there be specific ones for nvidia in order to use nvidia hardware acceleration?
where can i get the beta from???
[16:43] <gogeta1> fleshpike: it may r may not include the correct cale
[16:43] <gogeta1> cable
[16:44] <edbian_> skullboy, beeb like that?
[16:44] <asdsg> how does one find the generic name for update-alternatives?
[16:44] <Pici> fleshpike, gogeta1: ##hardware would be a better place to discuss this, as you can see #ubuntu is already quite busy with Ubuntu support.
[16:44] <skullboy> edbian, excuse me
[16:44] <edbian> skullboy, Can you sudo apt-get update   ?
[16:45] <skullboy> no it says command not found
[16:45] <edbian> skullboy, Which command is not found?
[16:45] <numberto> Hello everybody. Can somebody direct me to an IRC where I can discuss chromium working in ubuntu
[16:45] <numberto> thanks in advance
[16:45] <edbian> skullboy, What did you do that cause this?  Do you know?
[16:45] <histo> numberto: you could try and get ahold of the maintainer
[16:45] <error_203> no help :(
[16:45] <histo> numberto: I use chrome from google directly rather than chromium
[16:46] <mikeg3> I can seem to get Ubuntu 10.10  to update this latest time.  Tried sudo apt-get update also.  Updates seem downloaded but not installed
[16:46] <numberto> histo: what is the difference
[16:46] <skullboy> edbian, no just happened my files started going crupout i have no gui now just tremanal
[16:46] <asdsg> For x-www-browser in /etc/alternatives/ how does one find the generic name?
[16:46] <histo> numberto: well you'll have a more current version than the one in the repos for starters
[16:46] <someone235> hi, i have wlan card EW-7711In and its driver doesn't compatible for with kernel greater than 2.6.32. I have something to do expect deupdating the kernel?
[16:47] <name5> SORRY
[16:47] <Roasted_> Has there been any reports of newer Ubuntu kernels messing up Intel wireless? I just booted up 10.04 on my laptop and the wireless came back as disabled, yet I had it enabled on the hardware radio switch on the laptop. Booted to the oldest kernel with 10.04 and it worked. Just curious if anybody knows offhand if there were any widespread issues I should be aware of.
[16:47] <name5> kANN ich fragen?
[16:47] <rm_work> sudipta: i don't think it's a public beta :( was just saying, I remember from their forums something about a beta... anyway, from their FAQ, they even state "Linux users can run µTorrent with the latest version of Wine." which I can verify works fine
[16:47] <Pici> !de | name5
[16:47] <numberto> i donwnloaded chrome latest version today from google's official website. The problem is that it crashes my whole system when I open saved pages with it
[16:47] <edbian> skullboy, Obviously something is like majorly wrong.  Without apt-get it is extremely difficult to fix the system because that is the utility to install and remove software.  I suggest just clean installing.  You can use the live CD to grab your data and put it on a second HDD, or a usb flash drive, or on another partition on your hdd or something.
[16:47] <histo> numberto: i'm running versions 8.0.552.215
oookkkk......thanx
[16:48] <name5> jemand kenn ich habe firefox im meinem Notebook Löschen!
[16:48] <histo> numberto: actually that's the version in the repo
[16:48] <name5> wie kann ich daas wieder haben?
[16:48] <numberto> histo:  I just installed 8.0.552.224 from googles website
[16:48] <Pici> numberto: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie
[16:48] <edbian> skullboy, Now, as to why things are missing.  Perhaps something is wrong with your hardware.  I suspect the HDD is going since so many things are missing but it's also possibly bad ram (because of the seg faults)
[16:48] <histo> numberto: usually chrome is more stable chromium is their development branch from what I understand
[16:48] <Pici>                   bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke
[16:48] <Pici> numberto: sorry, mistab, clearly.
[16:48] <FloodBot4> Pici: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:48] <rm_work> sudipta: though I will say, running rtorrent in a screen session and using something like rutorrent for a frontend, is my choice for how to run things
[16:48] <guest101> Hello, anyone know about converting .odg to .svg for use in lyx
[16:48] <Some_One> i am facing issue regarding wireless communication, i am using TP Link wireless adapter model TL-WN727N, i am having 10.4 and system is showing full signal strenght, but unable to use internet,
[16:49] <SmokeyD> hey everyone, I remember reading in a linux magazine or on the internet somewhere about a linux app that tracks which windows on your desktop you are using, and what you are doing there (like the url or titles of websites you are visiting) and stuff like that. Any one have a clue what the app is called? It would really help me figuring out at the end of the day what the **ll I have been doing all day
[16:49] <skullboy> edbain, that is why i wanted to get it on to another distro and resise it the command to copy says command not found
[16:49] <numberto> Pici: I had the same problem with older versions - I just didn't care because I thought that it just a beta version and will be fixed
[16:49] <numberto> but I get same error after ugrading
[16:49] <rm_work> sudipta: i find people get focused on what they're used to, and don't look around and find out that with a little bit of learning, there are actually BETTER solutions out there natively :)
[16:49] <bastidrazor> ;[';mm/.,m,,mmjujo'
[16:49] <guest101> HELP NEEDED; anyone know about converting .odg to .svg for use in lyx
[16:49] <skullboy> edbain, so is the list command
[16:50] <FloridaGuy> ubuntu 10.04 isent letting me upgrade to 10.10....sudo do-release-upgrade   Checking for a new ubuntu release No new release found
[16:50] <asdsg> nvm got my answer
[16:50] <edbian> skullboy, Burn a live CD of the new distro.  Use the new distro to do everything.
[16:50] <Some_One> i am facing issue regarding wireless communication, i am using TP Link wireless adapter model TL-WN727N, i am having 10.4 and system is showing full signal strenght, but unable to use internet,
[16:50] <error_203> floridaguy: use alt+f2 and write update-manager -d
[16:50] <skullboy> ok well bye and thanks
[16:50] <bassliner> when i want to replace the installed libc6 (ubuntu-9) with a libc6 (ubuntu-6), what's the correct way to do so?
[16:50] <numberto> so does anybody knows chrome irc where I can ask chrome-guys
i believe there is......actually i am quite happy with bittorrent...just asking out of curiosity:-)
[16:50] <mikeg3> I can seem to get Ubuntu 10.10  to update this latest time.  Tried sudo apt-get update also.  Updates seem downloaded but not installed.  Can anyone please help?
[16:50] <skullboy> edbian, well bye and thanks
[16:50] <edbian> skullboy, good luck!  I'm not sure what caused that problem.  Very strange.
[16:50] <ZykoticK9> FloridaGuy, LTS will not 'by default' upgrade to non-LTS versions - sorry i don't know what change needs to be made it allow it.  (i don't recommend upgrades)
[16:51] <ZykoticK9> FloridaGuy, error_203's suggestion is incorrect
[16:51] <Jeruvy> numberto: I think googles official support is via google groups, but I'd be surprised if there isn't a channel around here :)
i dont have much space left on my hard drive.....
[16:51] <Not_another_gues> I am using OpenOffice.org 3.2.1
[16:51] <Not_another_gues> OOO320m19 (Build:9505)
[16:51] <Not_another_gues> ooo-build <IP_ADDRESS>, Ubuntu package 1:3.2.1-6ubuntu2~10.04.1
[16:52] <Not_another_gues> Open draw
[16:52] <FloodBot4> Not_another_gues: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
anything works out of the box is great(thing about GNU/linux)
[16:52] <Pici> FloridaGuy: You need to modify /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades from prompt=lts to prompt=normal
[16:52] <numberto> Jerevy: I seen one before - just don't remmeber exact name. All combinations which I have tried failed
[16:52] <USS_OHIO> wooo hooo i love ubuntu and its awesome users! thanks everyone for helping me out!
[16:52] <error_203> floridaguy: m correct try it
[16:52] <Pici> error_203, FloridaGuy:The -d switch is only for upgrading to the DEVELOPMENT version of Ubuntu, which is Natty (11.04) at this point.
[16:53] <ZykoticK9> error_203, actually -d says to update to development version so that would be 11.04
[16:53] <FloridaGuy> error_203, i thought its supose to bering that up....when you bring the update window up
[16:53] <ZykoticK9> FloridaGuy, use Pici's steps above
[16:53] <bidaboy> hi all, i installed ubuntu on my labtop, then i installed it on another pc, i want to copy the version on my labtop to the new 1, i thouth to copy all files from the old to the new but i dont know i that will wotk !
[16:54] <Not_another_gues> I have a physics dissertation to hand and im stressed can someone help
[16:54] <Jeruvy> numberto: ask around or ask chanserv about channel lists.
[16:54] <error_203> pici: ok but it shows you the latest versin of ur release ubuntu
[16:54] <edbian> bidaboy, You should copy everything in your /home
[16:54] <edbian> bidaboy, It is likely that is the only place that is different between the two.
[16:54] <Pici> error_203: 11.04 is neither released nor supported at this time.  It is still in alpha status.
[16:54] <edbian> Not_another_gues, Is it Ubuntu related?
[16:55] <Not_another_gues> yes
[16:55] <FloridaGuy> ZykoticK9, Pici  update-manager -d... worked
[16:55] <error_203> pici: i have some quetions
[16:55] <bidaboy> edbian, no i installed a lot of softs on the old one
[16:55] <edbian> Not_another_gues, I'll help I guess
[16:55] <Pici> FloridaGuy: You're on your own then.
[16:55] <ZykoticK9> FloridaGuy, not for 10.10 it didn't
[16:55] <edbian> bidaboy, Then you need to copy all of /usr and all of your home folder
[16:55] <Not_another_gues> open office draw crashes when i convert .odg to .svg for use in lyx any ideas
[16:55] <ZykoticK9> FloridaGuy, #ubuntu+1 when you run into problems
[16:55] <Pici> error_203: Thats what this channel is for.
[16:56] <edbian> Not_another_gues, Use an older version.  It's clearly a bug in the software.  (you should report the bug to them too)
[16:56] <bidaboy> edbian, that will work ?
[16:56] <edbian> bidaboy, Umm, I've never tried it.  Now that I think about it, that will probably freak out the package manager.
[16:57] <edbian> bidaboy, You could copy the entire install to the new machine.  (they won't remain syncronized)
[16:57] <USS_OHIO> edbian_ whats that channel again? i didnt know if i closed my terminal it would close the installation
[16:57] <edbian> bidaboy, Connect both of the hdd's to the same computer some how.
[16:57] <edbian> bidaboy, boot that computer with a live CD, use gparted to copy the partition from one hdd to another, install grup.  Fix any small bugs that might be left over
[16:57] <edbian> USS_OHIO, wineHQ
[16:57] <edbian> USS_OHIO, good luck! :)
[16:58] <dario_> Hi
[16:58] <dario_> !it
[16:58] <Not_another_gues> Cheers ebian
[16:58] <bidaboy> edbian, how about users account and theire passwords?
[16:58] <edbian> bidaboy, Well if you copy the entire system that will be taken care of
[16:59] <edbian> bidaboy, If you copy individual folder and files and stuff then you'll need that to.  The more I think about it though copying this way is a bad idea
[16:59] <Some_One> i am facing issue regarding wireless communication, i am using TP Link wireless adapter model TL-WN727N, i am having 10.4 and system is showing full signal strenght, but unable to use internet,
[16:59] <edbian> bidaboy, BTW that stuffs in /etc/group, /etc/passwd, and /etc/shadow
[16:59] <hplc> is it possible for the backdoor "DoomJuice" to infect / affect a linux machine? portscan attackdetector is claiming my machine is conducting scans :S
[16:59] <afroman> hello. how do I find out the ip adress of my wireless router?
[16:59] <karthick87> !mp3
[16:59] <FloridaGuy> update-manager -d...... is taking me to 10.10
[16:59] <bidaboy> edbian, ok i will try gparted
[16:59] <Some_One> i am facing issue regarding wireless communication, i am using TP Link wireless adapter model TL-WN727N, i am having 10.4 and system is showing full signal strenght, but unable to use internet,
[17:00] <bidaboy> edbian, thaks
[17:00] <edbian> bidaboy, It will take a long time.  Have fun!
[17:00] <error_203> hi guys help me m. when i start upgrading ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 alpha1 after sometime when my screen gets locked, when i try to unlock it the password box is missed thete only it shows username.how to fix this
[17:00] <edbian> afroman, You guess at it like this: <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:00] <bidaboy> edbian, ok
[17:00] <io> error_203: #ubuntu+1
[17:00] <Some_One> i am facing issue regarding wireless communication, i am using TP Link wireless adapter model TL-WN727N, i am having 10.4 and system is showing full signal strenght, but unable to use internet,
[17:01] <ZykoticK9> !repeat | Some_One
[17:01] <afroman> edbian: I changed it from NAT to access point, now I can't get in my router
[17:01] <Some_One> ZykoticK9, what ?
[17:01] <resno> Some_One: is the password correct?
[17:02] <ZykoticK9> Some_One, repeat your question every 10-15 minutes at the most, not every minute
[17:02] <Some_One> ZykoticK9, gotcha
[17:02] <numberto> How can I upgrade my ubuntu 10.04 on my netbook. My netbook does not have a reliable internet connection to do it. But I download the 10.10.   Is there any way to do it offline?
[17:02] <edbian> afroman, It probably doesn't have an IP address anymore since it's looking for a DHCP server to give it one.  Got a reset button?
[17:02] <Some_One> resno, yes its showing connected.. 100% signal strength
[17:02] <afroman> edbian: yes
[17:02] <gogeta1> numberto: you need the alt cd and it cn upgrade from cd then
[17:02] <resno> Some_One: try doing ifconfig.
[17:02] <gogeta1> can
[17:02] <ZykoticK9> numberto, you can somehow use the alternative cd (not the livecd) to upgrade with (i've never done it)
[17:03] <edbian> afroman, Use it man
[17:03] <Some_One> renso i am a noob :/ kindly tell me the procedure .. i have selected DHCP (automatic)
[17:03] <histo> !upgrade | afroman
[17:03] <afroman> edbian: but I thought to keep it as an access point would be better, is it?
[17:03] <gogeta1> ZykoticK9: i beleve its just a mater of inserting it and it says upgrade cd found
[17:03] <bastidrazor> i thought the alternate upgrade route was only possible if installed from an alternate cd to begin with.
[17:03] <edbian> afroman, access point allows you to have multiple wireless routers where some of them (the access points) just repeat the signal instead of dolling out IP addresses and such
[17:03] <kuroi_> hello,  i maybe have a silly trouble, but i couldn't fix it myself
[17:04] <edbian> afroman, It's not 'better'  it's different
[17:04] <ZykoticK9> bastidrazor, i don't "believe" so - but i don't think upgrades are a good idea
[17:04] <numberto> ZykoticK9: Is it safe. I mean am I risking to destroy everything ?
[17:04] <gogeta1> numberto: sometimes upgrades can go badly
[17:04] <ZykoticK9> numberto, upgrades OFTEN lead to issues...
[17:05] <resno> Some_One: press alt+f2. a window will pop up. in that box type gnome-terminal
[17:05] <numberto> gogeta1: does it mean that I shouldn't do it?
[17:05] <Quantum_Ion> When 10.10 becomes like 10.04 LTS stable then I will upgrade
[17:05] <Some_One> resno i am on terminal
[17:05] <afroman> edbian: don't get it
[17:05] <gogeta1> numberto: well 10.04 is lts you dont relly need to
[17:05] <edbian> afroman, Do you know what DHCP is?
[17:05] <resno> Some_One: type ifconfig and press enter
[17:05] <Some_One> yes done resno
[17:06] <Quantum_Ion> Not really in a rush to upgrade unless the distro is LTS long term stable
[17:06] <afroman> edbian: yes
[17:06] <edbian> afroman, Then what don't you get?
[17:06] <FloridaGuy> Pici, i just did your sugestion
[17:06] <resno> Some_One: do you have an ip address?
[17:06] <ZykoticK9> Quantum_Ion, i think you have to wait until 12.04 for the next LTS (not sure)
[17:06] <hplc> in a clean basic install, is there any reason why PSAD (portscan attack detector" would claim the ubuntu box is conducting scans?
[17:07] <Quantum_Ion> ZykoticK9, So I will be using 10.04 for a while
[17:07] <Some_One> aahh my bad resno, power failed here :) i was configuring on my desktop system ..
[17:07] <ZykoticK9> Quantum_Ion, that's the whole idea of LTS ;)
[17:07] <Some_One> resno, i'll be back when i will get power.
[17:07] <resno> Some_One: ok. good luck
[17:07] <scorch> got a wierd problem, just started happening.  ubuntu 10.10, computer button top  right corner does not come up with a list of options anymore (restart, shutdown, etc)
[17:08] <gogeta1> hplc: ubuntu has a firewall maybe its scaning
[17:08] <rm_work> usually LTS is just recommended when it needs to be used in business/stable environment... for home use, you probably WANT to upgrade every 6 months / year :P
[17:08] <kuroi_> hello, my bars have dessapear
[17:08] <afroman> edbian: I thought by changing to access point I make the router into a dhcp and would appoint an ip
[17:08] <kuroi_> how can i configure them back?
[17:08] <bastidrazor> !panels | kuroi_
[17:08] <rm_work> I know I do, but I may be strange... when I ran gentoo, i did this once/day at least: emerge -uv world
[17:09] <gogeta1> rm_work: not relly lts is for home to.
[17:09] <edbian> afroman, No, normally the router does DHCP for you (it is a DHCP server).  If you have more than one DHCP server than they will confuse one another.  You need to have one and only one.  By changing to access point you turn dhcp off and it will no longer appoint IPs
[17:09] <scorch> got a wierd problem, just started happening.  ubuntu 10.10, computer button top  right corner does not come up with a list of options anymore (restart, shutdown, etc).  And my username next to it does the same thing.
[17:09] <kuroi_> ok, but first, i don't know how to get a terminal
[17:09] <rm_work> the only people that *really* seem to support LTS is Canonical for their enterprise support, and that package updates and backports generally continue more reliably
[17:09] <afroman> edbian: I mean more like relay ip from my isp so that my pc would be able to have a direct ip to the internet
[17:09] <gogeta1> rm_work: gentoo and arch use a rolling relese style meaning the distro is always the latest ver
[17:09] <scorch> how do i restart computer in terminal
[17:10] <bastidrazor> scorch: sudo reboot now
[17:10] <Quantum_Ion> with 10.10 it will take a while before they work out all the bugs people will complain and issue complaints about things not working right on 10.10 and Ubuntu people will have to fix that stuff
[17:10] <rm_work> gogeta1: i know :P
[17:10] <resno> scorch: sudo reboot
[17:10] <scorch> k
[17:10] <scorch> hopefully it will correct itself
[17:10] <edbian> afroman, If you want that just remove the router from the whole situation.  Plug the modem right into the computer.
[17:10] <Quantum_Ion> as root you can do init 6 and it will reboot your system too from the command line
[17:11] <gogeta1> afroman: if you lock yourself out of your roughter you might have to factury reset it
[17:11] <edbian> gogeta1, He already did
[17:11] <afroman> edbian: but I want a wireless connection
[17:11] <edbian> afroman, Than I don't believe it's possible.
[17:11] <rm_work> gogeta1: my point was just that it if you come HERE looking for help, very few people really go out of their way to go back two or three versions to help you, because most of us are power users and are running latest release :)
[17:11] <afroman> right now it is working fine
[17:11] <numberto> scorch:  Try this: press  Alt + SysRq   and then with intervals of 1-2 seconds press R, E, I, S, U, B buttons
[17:12] <scorch> k
[17:12] <afroman> edbian: right now it is possible and working fine
[17:12] <Quantum_Ion> afroman, make sure you have an RJ-45 cable and attach it to your router and your compter so you can download the wifi drivers for ubuntu linux
[17:12] <hplc> damn im confused, even if the UFW firewall were to conduct scans, why would localhost scan localhost over and over? from logs: "<IP_ADDRESS> -> <IP_ADDRESS> udp: [53] udp"
[17:12] <edbian> afroman, You can however, forward the ports you want to your machine.  That way you can send something to your public address and it will go to your personal machine as if you had a public IP for that port.
[17:12] <edbian> afroman, You have a public IP address?
[17:12] <sam---___----> afroman, try googling for dmz
[17:12] <gogeta1> hplc: dunno see what on port 53
[17:13] <gogeta1> hplc: probly lead to a answer
[17:13] <Pici> hplc: 53 is dns iirc
[17:13] <afroman> edbian: yes
[17:13] <Bilz> hello
[17:13] <hplc> bind running on 53 to quicken name resolution
[17:13] <edbian> afroman, Perhaps I am wrong and it is possible!  I have no idea what the routers IP might be.  I presume it doesn't have one.  Since that would lead to an address conflict.
[17:13] <gogeta1> hplc: there you go
[17:13] <Jemt> Hello. I'm automating the Ubuntu installation using preseeds. How do I figure out the names of each item in the d-i installer, in order to pass values to them ?
[17:13] <Bilz> can anyone help me. im trying to figure out how to rearrange the items in the top right panel, the order is annoying me and it randomly changes it alot
[17:13] <edbian> afroman, Either that or you have more than 1 public IP (i.e. more than one subscribtion to internet service)
[17:13] <ZykoticK9> edbian, routers require an IP address...
[17:14] <gogeta1> hplc: so your dns naturly scans looking for a ip to get
[17:14] <mrk_> has anybody experienced complete failure of panels in the distro dvd installation of Ubuntu 10.4?
[17:14] <Jemt> Some guys was kind enough to suggest Remaster-sys, but that's not what I want :)
[17:14] <Jemt> guy*
[17:14] <gogeta1> hplc: or sending hartbeats
[17:14] <gogeta1> hplc: wait i was ting dhcp dns is your your host name resuklv on the net
[17:14] <edbian> ZykoticK9, He put it in access point mode.  This way he gets the public IP directly sent to his machine.  What the heck is the IP of the router in this case?  It'd have to be a public IP because there is no device 'routing' anymore
[17:14] <Quantum_Ion> Bilz, Go to the middle of the panel and right click and select properties
[17:15] <Bilz> Quantum_Ion, yeah
[17:15] <xuodin> mrk_@try downloading another distro
[17:15] <Quantum_Ion> BilZ Play around with those settings
[17:15] <ZykoticK9> edbian, "access point mode" makes sense to me for wireless, but nothing else... sorry i have no idea.  Not a setup I've ever tried (seems counter productive in my opinion)
[17:15] <gogeta1> hplc: in other words not a thret
[17:16] <Bilz> Quantum_Ion, i have with no luck
[17:16] <edbian> ZykoticK9, YEah this is for wireless
[17:16] <hplc> cant use dhcp client anymore, had to go manually set IP, at bout same time these "src: <IP_ADDRESS> signature match: "BACKDOOR DoomJuice file upload attempt" shoved up in logs
[17:16] <mrk_> xuodin, i hve used a dvd from linux shop..is it a known problem?
[17:16] <ZykoticK9> edbian, access point in wireless typically rely on having a DHCP server elsewhere in the network!
[17:16] <edbian> afroman, You are ware of the security implications of having a public IP with no firewall?
[17:16] <xuodin> mrk_haven`t heard about it before
[17:16] <gogeta1> hplc: i think your brogram is giving false ifo
[17:16] <gogeta1> program
[17:17] <mikeg3> I can seem to get Ubuntu 10.10  to update this latest time.  Tried sudo apt-get update also.  Updates seem downloaded but not installed.  Can anyone please help?
[17:17] <ZykoticK9> gogeta1, bro-gram i like that ;)
[17:17] <edbian> mikeg3, apt-get update downloads them, apt-get safe-upgrade installs them :)
[17:17] <edbian> mikeg3, Very perceptive BTW
[17:17] <xuodin> mrk_@try downloading you own version and burn it
[17:17] <afroman> edbian: the router has a firewall, so is ubuntu
[17:18] <xuodin> mrk_@think that should solve it
[17:18] <kuroi_> my bars dissapear and i don't know how to open a terminal without the bars
[17:18] <ZykoticK9> mikeg3, actually "sudo apt-get updage && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" would be normal - i think safe-upgrade is only available with aptitude
[17:18] <gogeta1> hplc: you relise thats a windows worm maybe your windows box is infected
[17:18] <Quantum_Ion> Bilz, You have to play around with Ubuntu Linux Gnome Panel Settings in order to get things the way you want them
[17:18] <edbian> afroman, But if you give your machine a public IP I don't believe the router is firewalling anymore.  Ubuntu does have a firewall but I think it is fully open by default
[17:18] <mikeg3> thanks, please excuse my newbieness!
[17:18] <xuodin> kuroi_alt+f2
[17:18] <Bilz> Quantum_Ion, turns out you have to remove the lock on them then right click and click move
[17:18] <edbian> mikeg3, no worries :)
[17:18] <gogeta1> hplc: it woud have no effect on linux
[17:19] <xuodin> kuroi_@gnome terminal
[17:19] <Quantum_Ion> Bilz, Yes you have to play around with those settings a bit
[17:19] <hplc> thats my best guess as well, there IS a windows machine running in same subnet yes
[17:19] <afroman> edbian: U kidding me...
[17:19] <mrk_> xuodin, i'll have to, shame really..the ubuntu 9.4 works like a dream...but when i updated to 10.4 on line, I had the same problem, so I don't think downloading another version will make a difference.
[17:19] <edbian> afroman, Nope
 nothing happens with alt f2
[17:19] <mikeg3> I will try aptitude, I think apt-get is deprecated anyway
[17:20] <mrockSolid> is there a way in ubuntu to deploy and quick install a pre-defined set of commonly used softwares?
[17:20] <edbian> afroman, sudo iptables -L  (see any rules?)
[17:20] <mrk_> xuodin, , i mean upgraded
[17:20] <edbian> mikeg3, It's not deprecated, it is older and does less.  They both work fine
[17:20] <edbian> mikeg3, aptitude is 'smarter'
[17:20] <ZykoticK9> mikeg3, actually you have it backwards - ubuntu has dropped aptitude from 10.10 by default
[17:20] <hplc> but why a win-worm would claim to originate from <IP_ADDRESS> beats me, leaning towards false positive
[17:20] <afroman> edbian: I have used ubuntu wired to the internet for a year without a firewall?
[17:20] <mrk_> xuodin,  which is why i bought the dvd!
[17:20] <cyclist_2> Hello, there! I installed Google-Earth 6.0 sucessfully [...?] but when I try to launch it nothing happens; any opinions, please...?
[17:21] <tczf> are you use ubuntu?
[17:21] <gogeta1> hplc: thats a local ip same meaning as localhost
[17:21] <edbian> afroman, Well your router was a firewall.  But it's not a HUGE deal.  Ubuntu is generally more secure than windows anyway.
[17:21] <sam-_-> afroman, why would you need a firewall?
[17:21] <edbian> afroman, see? ^
[17:21] <gogeta1> hplc: so both machine would use that ip
[17:21] <Quantum_Ion> I noticed on Ubuntu whenever you upgrade your .bashrc file gets overwritten
[17:21] <xuodin> mrk_@i believe you, but, try downloading it
[17:21] <edbian> afroman, Plus your router was a firewall until you switched it to access point mode
[17:21] <ZykoticK9> cyclist_2, open a terminal and try running "googleearth" see if you get an error message
[17:21] <afroman> edbian: the wireless router is new
[17:22] <telmessos> hi all. anyone experienced about "Playonlinux" ??????
[17:22] <xuodin> mrk_@don`t upgrade it
[17:22] <mrk_> xuodin, i will, glad you follow me!
[17:22] <afroman> that's why I said "wired"
[17:22] <edbian> afroman, haha, nice
[17:22] <hplc> another machine in same subnet surely cant ID itself as <IP_ADDRESS>??? thats the loopback for THIS machine exclusively...right?
[17:22] <xuodin> mrk_@no problem m8
[17:22] <edbian> hplc, correct
[17:22] <ZykoticK9> cyclist_2, these are the steps i had to use to successfully install GE http://paste.ubuntu.com/543704/
[17:22] <edbian> hplc, Well I suppose it could call itself that but it shouldn't because it messes things up royally
[17:22] <gogeta1> hplc: well if that machine is running the softwhere then it would be localhost correct
[17:23] <afroman> sam-_-: no need for firewall? would U promise me that U don't have a firewall urself? :P
[17:23] <sam-_-> afroman, i promise :-)
[17:23] <gogeta1> hplc: yea leaning fals postiv
[17:23] <edbian> afroman, I don't have a firewall right now but it is out of laziness
[17:23] <pegleg> anyone else having problems with pandora?
[17:23] <xuodin> kuroi_@try pressing alt+f2 and you should get "open new program" menu, then type in "gnome-terminal"
[17:23] <cyclist_2> ZykoticK9: I get 'command not found'; there is an icon on the Applications Menu, but it is of no use; there is a Desktop icon [executable] but it also does nothing...
[17:24] <sam-_-> afroman, a think of a firewall not as some sort of protection but as a filter
[17:24] <edbian> sam-_-, Well it's both
[17:24] <telmessos> hi all. anyone experienced about "Playonlinux" ?
[17:24] <ZykoticK9> cyclist_2, ?  i don't know man - perhaps try following the steps in my pastebin?  good luck man.
[17:24] <edbian> pegleg, works for me
[17:24] <cyclist_2> ZykoticK9: ok; I will read it now
[17:24] <afroman> sam-_-: edbian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/543705/
[17:24] <sam-_-> edbian, it adds protection by filtering not vice versa
[17:24] <edbian> afroman, It's open
[17:25] <edbian> sam-_-, agreed
[17:25] <sam-_-> edbian, it doesn't protect against exploits in applications
[17:25] <edbian> sam-_-, except that it potentially keeps people from accessing the exploits in the first place
[17:26] <telmessos> I am trying to install "Football Manager 2010" to playonlinux but the Wine version 1.1.44 which playonlinux tries to install with has issues with the mouse. I want to install it with Wine 1.1.41. Anyone can help me pls????
[17:26] <sam-_-> afroman, keeping ubuntu "secure" is relatively easy. just install software from known sources and keep your system up to date
[17:26] <afroman> sam-_-: well, it filters, never the less I think I would feel safer with 1 :P
[17:26] <sam-_-> afroman, that is all
[17:26] <edbian> sam-_-, afroman agreed
[17:26] <kuroi_> xuodin i'm chatting in another pc
[17:26] <AbhiJit> hi
[17:26] <edbian> afroman, Then learn about iptables and turn it on!
[17:27] <xuodin> kuroi_@ i see
[17:27] <kuroi_> in the pc with the problem
[17:27] <xuodin> kuroi_@ what distro do you have on the error pc?
[17:27] <kuroi_> nothing happens when i hit alt f2
[17:27] <philinux> edbian: iptables is on in a default install
[17:28] <kuroi_> ubuntu 10 10
[17:28] <edbian> philinux, but empty :)
[17:28] <ZykoticK9> philinux, incorrect - no default firewall in ubuntu
[17:28] <afroman> edbian: sam-_-: what if I have 2 firewalls...? one from the router and Ubuntu. wouldn't that make surfing slower?
[17:28] <edbian> afroman, nope
[17:28] <sam-_-> afroman, yes but you won't feel it...
[17:28] <edbian> afroman, Maybe by a microsecond or two (so first you can't even perceive it)
[17:28] <telmessos> noone sees what I wrote or noone has any idea about my question???
[17:28] <kuroi_> ubuntu 10 10 64b
[17:29] <edbian> telmessos, We see what you're writing
[17:29] <edbian> telmessos, Nobody knows, just wait and ask again periodically
[17:29] <francesco> salve a tutti
[17:29] <ZykoticK9> !it | francesco
[17:29] <telmessos> edbian, thanks. I thought it's about the channel modes or sth...
[17:29] <edbian> telmessos, nope, you're here
[17:29] <sam-_-> !ask |telmessos
[17:29] <Goddard> i cant play .wmv files
[17:29] <xuodin> kuroi_@have you tried adding another panel, then adding gnome menu on it
[17:30] <Guest93953> join #ubuntu-it
[17:30] <philinux> zykes-: ok but. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/security#firewallantivirus
[17:30] <telmessos> sam-_-, I asked my question on one line
[17:30] <ZykoticK9> Goddard, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[17:30] <kuroi_> xuodin no, how i do that?
[17:30] <philinux> ZykoticK9: ok but. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/security#firewallantivirus
[17:30] <joranr> wtf is this shit?
[17:30] <ZykoticK9> philinux, you can enable iptables but it's not on by default!
[17:30] <sam-_-> telmessos, what is your problem when install wine. be more specific
[17:31] <Goddard> ZykoticK9: doing it now :D
[17:31] <xuodin> kuroi_@are trying to restore panels over tarminal?
[17:31] <hplc> can a script, nomatter size and / or complexity ever be considered programming?, and secondly, is use of TK programming or advanced scripting?
[17:31] <xuodin> kuroi_@ terminal*
[17:32] <stanley21> it looks like i had to connect to a irc-server to get xchat startet. that was not my intention. sorry folks. cya
[17:32] <edbian> hplc, yes, a script is a program
[17:32] <ZykoticK9> Goddard, IF that doesn't work - you need to install non-free-codecs from Medibuntu
[17:32] <sam-_-> ZykoticK9, i think iptables is on by default.
[17:32] <edbian> hplc, gui programming (using tk) is programming
[17:32] <kuroi_> yes, but i can't open one
[17:32] <ZykoticK9> sam-_-, it's not
[17:32] <pegleg> man, flash hasn't worked for shit since i upgraded to 10.10
[17:32] <kuroi_> xuodin yes, but i can't open one
[17:32] <telmessos> sam-_-, I am trying to use playonlinux to install "football manager 2010" playonlinux tries to install the game using wine 1.1.44 but I know that there's a problem with displaying the mouse with that version. I would like to learn how I can make playonlinux install the game using wine 1.1.41?
[17:32] <IdleOne> !language | pegleg
[17:33] <sam-_-> ZykoticK9, you mean that the policy is set the accept but it still is on
[17:33] <afroman> edbian: sam-_-: one last question, U wouldn't happen to know why, when the router was the dhcp, I had ONE specific public ip address, while I know for certain that my isp provides dynamic ip:s all the time?
[17:33] <ne7work> hello all please someone tell me from where can I start to learing how to make programs?
[17:33] <xuodin> kuroi_@ok, open new empty template, and the enter commands from this page    http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html
[17:33] <ZykoticK9> sam-_-, there is NO firewall turned on in Ubuntu (by default) - please trust me on this one.
[17:33] <mahono> hi, I just installed Redmine on Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS using the ubuntu package, my problem is that the "repository tab" is not shown for integration of SCMs - any idea how to enable it?
[17:33] <ne7work> and witch languages I need or only c++?
[17:33] <xuodin> kuroi_@then start it in terminal
[17:33] <kuroi_> xuodin ok
[17:33]  * dannyLopez se despide
[17:34] <edbian> afroman, Your router gets the public (dynamic) ip address.  Your router gives pretend ones to the computer in your network.  That idea is what allows you to have multiple computers with only one internet subscription
[17:34] <duckx0r> How would i go about debugging why this USB keyboard I have works in the BIOS, but doesn't work when GRUB loads and also this USB mouse is not working when the login screen comes up? I have tried on multiple *buntu installs on various computers and they don't work on any.
[17:34] <xuodin> kuroi_@set the file preferances to open in terminal
[17:34] <edbian> afroman, The IP address that points to your router from the Internet can change.  The IP addresses inside your network (inside your home) can be static or dynamic and have nothing to do with the public IP for the router.
[17:34] <xuodin> kuroi_@that should work
[17:35] <zetter> where can i change the settings so i can move windows with the cursor to different workspaces?
[17:35] <edbian> afroman, The internet you appear to be one machine when really you have 2 or 3 or however many are in your house
[17:35] <AbhiJit> bye
[17:35] <ZykoticK9> zetter, compiz allow dragging windows - don't think metacity does
[17:35] <edbian> zetter, install ccsm, it's in there somewheres
[17:35] <zetter> kthx
[17:36] <sam-_-> ZykoticK9, trust is a luxury i can not provide :-)
[17:36] <sam-_-> ZykoticK9, but you might be right none the less
[17:37] <rcm> hello there. Someone can help me, my firefox doesnt work :S I restarted the computer this morning, and since then, I can't run firefox, it shows me a crash report, I ask for restart the firefox and nothing happens, just the same report showing again and again... can someone help me pleasE? :S
[17:37] <kuroi_> xuodin the problem, in first place, is that alt+F2 don't work...
[17:38] <telmessos> I am trying to use playonlinux to install "football manager 2010" playonlinux tries to install the game using wine 1.1.44 but I know that there's a problem with displaying the mouse with that version. I would like to learn how I can make playonlinux install the game using wine 1.1.41?
[17:38] <rcm> I also tried to uninstall and install firefox, but nothing is solved, the same problem occurs...
[17:38] <afroman> edbian: not really. I have another router used before the wireless router. that 1st one relay public (dynamic) ip:s for 4 pc.
[17:39] <kuroi_> xuodin there is another way to open a terminal?
[17:39] <Psychedelic_Appl> Aee
[17:39] <stefanoUbuntu20> hi everyone, i wanted to ask a quick question, is there something like the windows api for linux? some library to make windows buttons etc in c/c++ for linux? thanks
[17:39] <xuodin> kuroi_@i know, that is why you should open new teplate, then enter those commands one after another, laike a .bat file on windows
[17:39] <duckx0r> rcm, have you tried to start in safe mode?
[17:39] <ZykoticK9> sam-_-, "apt-cache policy iptables" does show it as installed (and I'm assuming that's from default install), but it's certainly NOT enabled in anyway by default.
[17:39] <sam-_-> telmessos, what about my pm? did you read it?
[17:40] <edbian> afroman, Trust me, you have 1 public IP. The rest are internal network IPs.  If I type in the IP address of any of those I will not go to that computer.  I can only send packets to your house by sending them to your public IP.  Then your router gets them and decides what to do with them.
[17:40] <rusivi> telmessos: I am not trying to dissuade you from using Play on Linux but newer WINE may be better bet -> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=10464
[17:40] <rcm> nop
[17:40] <rcm> duckx0r, how do i do that?
[17:40] <duckx0r> rcm, also try deleting your /home/username/.mozilla directory (if you don't mind losing all your FF configs)
[17:40] <cjdevlin> kuroi: if you are chatting from another computer ctrl + alt +f1 should get you to a terminal
[17:40] <telmessos> sam-_-,  sorry checking..
[17:40] <sam-_-> ZykoticK9, ok you win :-)
[17:40] <kuroi_> xuodin i'm sorry, i don't understand how to open a new template
[17:40] <zetter> ZykoticK9: i cant seem to find the option in compiz, i unchecked the "constrain Y" option but that didnt work
[17:40] <xuodin> kuroi_@rmb on workspace
 ok
[17:41] <rcm> I'd like to just save my bookmarks :S
[17:41] <ZykoticK9> zetter, just enable compiz and you can drag windows - no CCSM required
[17:41] <telmessos> rusivi, thanks.
[17:41] <stefanoUbuntu20> hi everyone, i wanted to ask a quick question, is there something like the windows api for linux? some library to make windows buttons etc in c/c++ for linux? thanks
[17:41] <xuodin> kuroi_@then select the new empty template
[17:41] <weekly> Question: I have a removeable drive with the UUID specified in the fstab to auto mount on startup, no, out of nowhere it just wont mount it at all. Where should i start so that this will auto mount again??
[17:41] <rcm> but I'll try to take a look on the .mozzila directory
 ok! terminal open!
[17:41] <duckx0r> rcm, /path/to/firefox/firefox -safe-mode
[17:41] <skirmantas> stefanoUbuntu20, do you ask for MS Windows GUI libraries, because "windows" doesn't have to be ms.
[17:41] <edbian> stefanoUbuntu20, Yes but there is more than one.  Primarily there is gtk (used by gnome) and qt (used by kde)  but there are several others.
[17:41] <rm_work> stefanoUbuntu20: are you just looking for a graphical toolkit? like, Qt or GTK?
[17:41] <undecim> stefanoUbuntu20: There is the GTK and Qt libraries
[17:42] <edbian> stefanoUbuntu20, I actually am writing an app using python and gtk right now
[17:42] <rcm> duckx0r, on terminal right?
[17:42] <duckx0r> rcm, yes
[17:42] <nirazio> Having an Arrandale-based notebook with an on-die Intel GPU, which graphics drivers can and should I use?
[17:42] <stefanoUbuntu20> yea i saw the GTK thing
[17:42] <undecim> stefanoUbuntu20, http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk-tutorial/2.90/
[17:42] <xuodin> cjdevlin@didn`t know that, thank you
[17:42] <stefanoUbuntu20> i just need to make windows (not ms windows :p)
[17:42] <edbian> stefanoUbuntu20, yep, there is also wx or something I believe
[17:42] <edbian> stefanoUbuntu20, They all do that.
[17:42] <rm_work> wxWindows
[17:42] <Quantum_Ion> stefanoUbuntu20, Yes, You can use the Qt SDK http://qt.nokia.com/
[17:42] <rm_work> or Tcl/TK
[17:43] <stefanoUbuntu20> ok, also one other thing, i saw many developers use C on linux, why C and not C++?
[17:43] <tsimpson> stefanoUbuntu20: there are several toolkits, #ubuntu-app-devel would be the appropriate place to discuss it
[17:43] <rusivi> stefanoUbuntu20: Mono is Windows implementation of .NET for Linux -> http://www.mono-project.com/
[17:43] <undecim> stefanoUbuntu20, That's what GTK does. Makes windows. The chat program you are using probably uses it (empathy, pidgin, and xchat I believe all use GTK)
[17:43] <cjdevlin> xuodin: np.
[17:43] <edbian> stefanoUbuntu20, IDK, c is a unix language?  many use c++ as well.
[17:43] <Quantum_Ion> stefanoUbuntu20, For cross compilation use Qt SDK http://qt.nokia.com/
[17:43] <stefanoUbuntu20> thanks guys, i'll get GTK
[17:43] <edbian> stefanoUbuntu20, Are you running Ubuntu?
[17:43] <duckx0r> How would i go about debugging why this USB keyboard I have works in the BIOS, but doesn't work when GRUB loads and also this USB mouse is not working when the login screen comes up? I have tried on multiple *buntu installs on various computers and they don't work on any.
[17:43] <undecim> stefanoUbuntu20, Go look up Linus' rant on C++. I think it sums up most Linux dev's feelings on it. Mine at least.
[17:43] <Bruce_Wayne> what is the terminal command to restart nautilus?
[17:43] <stefanoUbuntu20> yep i'm running ubuntu
[17:44] <edbian> stefanoUbuntu20, You already have gtk
[17:44] <stefanoUbuntu20> oh cool ^^
[17:44] <edbian> stefanoUbuntu20, Wasn't that easy?
[17:44] <Quantum_Ion> So get Qt it is better
[17:44] <delirage> Hi, could anyone tell me how I setup a VPN on ubuntu so I could connect to it with windows?
[17:44] <undecim> stefanoUbuntu20, You will probably need to install the dev package
[17:44] <stefanoUbuntu20> Qt is cross platform hmmm maybe that's better
[17:44] <edbian> stefanoUbuntu20, They both are cross platform
[17:44] <afroman> edbian: when I set the router to access point, the router's homepage was stopped and showed a new page saying that to get the ip adress of the device I needed to use the dhcp server or use upnp tools to edit the device.
[17:44] <rm_work> GTK is also cross-platform...
[17:44] <stefanoUbuntu20> oh
[17:45] <rm_work> It's just the age old KDE vs Gnome argument, don't even start T_T
[17:45] <Quantum_Ion> stefanoUbuntu20, Right you can use Qt on Windows, Mac, etc
[17:45] <stefanoUbuntu20> thanks a lot <3
[17:45] <skirmantas> gtk is C, Qt is C++.
[17:45] <edbian> afroman, That makes sense.  Remind me of your setup.  You have modem goes to wired router goes to wireless router and the wireless router is on access point mode and the machine connects to it wirelessly?
[17:45] <fleshpike> well, what can i say? my computer is someway damaged ,sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn t. i guess long time of use exposed to vibrating parts (hard drive) caused the problem
[17:45] <rm_work> gtk and Qt are both for pretty much any language <_<
[17:45] <error_203> how to use c++ program in ubuntu
[17:45] <undecim> stefanoUbuntu20, install "libgtk2.0-dev" package from the software center or synaptic to write programs with it
[17:46] <Quantum_Ion> For example if Yahoo Chat had a Qt Yahoo Chat everyone would in the Linux world would be running Yahoo Qt Chat
[17:46] <rm_work> not just C/C++
[17:46] <Pici> !ot
[17:46] <undecim> stefanoUbuntu20, Also, if you haven't already, the build-essential package
[17:46] <afroman> edbian: right now the modem is unplugged
[17:46] <zetter> ZykoticK9: found it, the edge flipping for desktop wall was disabled
[17:46] <edbian> afroman, Then go to the wired router and look at the dhcp table and you'll see the wireless router in there.  I didn't realize before that you had two routers.  The wired router is doing dhcp so it knows the addresses of everybody
[17:46] <bonez2046> how do I alter the gnome login timeout for when I enter a wrong password? seems like system is set for 4 minutes
[17:46] <rm_work> Quantum_Ion: thanks for your views, i'm sure everyone appreciates how much you love Qt, can we try to be objective? >_>
[17:47] <stefanoUbuntu20> allright thanks
[17:47] <Quantum_Ion> rm_work, lol
[17:47] <rm_work> stefanoUbuntu20: just look at them both and pick which one looks best for your use :)
[17:47] <stefanoUbuntu20> yea
[17:47] <edbian> stefanoUbuntu20, have fun!  come back here with questions.  Like I said I am literally doing the same thing right now
[17:47] <rm_work> I've used both and they both work well :)
[17:47] <stefanoUbuntu20> i will, thanks guys!
[17:47] <stefanoUbuntu20> i love you ^^
[17:47] <afroman> edbian: not now. the 1st router is unplugged. the only router plugged is the wireless
[17:48] <fleshpike> i propose a new era computer where vibrating parts such as hard drive are isolated from causing motherboard to vibe
[17:48] <edbian> afroman, If you only have the wireless router and it is set to access point then I don't think you can get to it
[17:48] <salil> Hi Does anyone know of a screen sharing+control tool for ubuntu (or linux)?
[17:48] <edbian> fleshpike, I propose SSD harddrives
[17:48] <undecim> salil: VNC
[17:48] <sam-_-> salil, teamviewer
[17:48] <edbian> salil, synergy?
[17:49] <salil> great will look into them
[17:49] <salil> thanks all
[17:49] <undecim> salil, I think it al ldepends on what exactly you want to do
[17:49] <Quantum_Ion> SSD drives are very expensive and not as stable as they should be
[17:49] <hmca> salil: i think is Vino on gnome
[17:49] <salil> I want sharing of screen with control..
[17:49] <salil> do all of these have control facility?
[17:49] <weekly> QUESTION: Ubuntu wont detect one of my hard drives out of no where, not showing under "blkid" or anything ARGGHH!! Any suggestions?
[17:49] <salil> someone else controls your screen
[17:49] <rm_work> yes, but I'd propose if we're doing R&D on something, it should be SSD and not "how to seperate mobo from spinning hard drive" :P
[17:49] <Quantum_Ion> I cannot wait until laptops all have touch screens like Android phones
[17:49] <undecim> salil, I use x11vnc to do that with my HTPC
[17:50] <rm_work> Quantum_Ion: mine does :P
[17:50] <sam-_-> weekly, does the bios detect it?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: some do, look at ew releases
[17:50] <undecim> salil, though I think Ubuntu has desktop sharing builtin... 1 sec
[17:50] <jessd> Hi all.  I dd'd a USB stick like this : dd if=/dev/sdb of=file.dd  - Now I'd liek to mount it via loop if possible.  If i do fdisk on the image, it reports the file system as W95 FAT32 (b), and if I mount w/out explicit filesystem definition, it tells me I need the filesystem type.  If I say -t vfat or msdos, I get wrong fs type, bad option, etc etc.  Any advice?  They key this was on is gone, and I don't have a block device large enough
[17:50] <afroman> edbian: it goes like this: ethernet outlet on the wall connected to the wireless router connected to the pc throu wireless
[17:50] <weekly> sam-_-, Im not sure, im going to do some more troubleshooting and come back in a few
[17:50] <cjdevlin> bonez2046: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=851828
[17:50] <undecim> salil, System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[17:50] <edbian> afroman, And the wireless router is an access point.
[17:50] <tsimpson> jessd: did you use "-o loop"?
[17:50] <theholder> Hi i am having an issue with Ubuntu 10.10 netbook edition when i turn my wifi off it causes it to lock up
[17:51] <jessd> tsimpson: Yep
[17:51] <john77eipe> hello ubuntees
[17:51] <afroman> edbian: and as I said I have a public ip throu the wireless becoz the router is on AP
[17:51] <edbian> afroman, There is no DHCP server, so there is nobody giving out IP addresses.  The modem gets an IP that it gives to the router which in turn gives it to the computer
[17:51] <john77eipe> so happy to see so many ubuntu user's together
[17:51] <salil> undecim: I don't have that in Maveric
[17:51] <john77eipe> :-)
[17:51] <salil> k
[17:51] <edbian> afroman, I don't think you can get into the router with this config
[17:52] <undecim> salil, really? I must have some other package installed...
[17:52] <tsimpson> jessd: did the disk have partitions?
[17:52] <jessd> jessd: It was sdb, with sdb1 as a fat32 filesystem.
[17:52] <tsimpson> jessd: you need to specify an offset then, have a look at http://www.andremiller.net/content/mounting-hard-disk-image-including-partitions-using-linux
[17:53] <jessd> tsimpson:  It was sdb, with sdb1 as a fat32 filesystem.
[17:53] <john77eipe> anyone knows any links which explains real user ID and effective user ID. i'm a newbee here...
[17:53] <USS_OHIO> if i have two terminals open, first one being the failed install, second is the install running correctly, can i close the first one>? or will it cause both to stop? just wonder cause i closed my term during first dl and it shut everything down
[17:53]  * jessd reading
[17:54] <undecim> salil, Looks like it's "vino" is the package giving me that option
[17:54] <USS_OHIO> ah wrong channel
[17:54] <salil> undecim: k
[17:54] <USS_OHIO> sorry
[17:54] <undecim> salil, Install the vino package from the software center or synaptic and you should have that option. Easy to setup
[17:55] <jessd> tsimpson: Excellent, thank you!
[17:55] <salil> undecim: That I believe should give you an exclusive remote desktop session.. not a sharing session
[17:55] <afroman> edbian: there was a way to ping a website or an ip, and when U ping using that command line U get a sort map showing all the devices, routers,... till U get to the server. would U happen to know that command line?
[17:55] <edbian> afroman, traceroute
[17:56] <edbian> afroman, sudo traceroute <your public ip>  and see what happens
[17:56] <undecim> salil, unless I misunderstood what you were asking, this should do what you want. Both the logged in user and the remote user control the same screen
[17:56] <Ziber> Whats the easiest way to upgrade a package to the newest version rather than reinstalling it?
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> john77eipe: grep username /etc/passwd
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> john77eipe: its the leftmost number
[17:56] <mikeg3> I think my whole package system is messed up!  I am not sure if I should re-install.
[17:56] <faz> how come in ubuntu there is no /etc/asound.conf file I need it to do some upmixing
[17:56] <edbian> mikeg3, What makes you say that?
[17:56] <salil> undecim: Ok that gets close.. But I still need to share my password or give access.. I can't show or give control to my screen to someone else over chat
[17:57] <jessd> tsimpson: .. and success.  Many, many thanks!
[17:57] <bonez2046> cjdevlin: thanks..
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> mikeg3: what is the output of: sudo apt-get -f install    use http://pastie.org to give the output
[17:57] <cjdevlin> bonez2046: np. do what you want?
[17:57] <bonez2046> cjdevlin: I think so..
[17:57] <undecim> salil, With vino you set a different password, or use a push-button-configuration type setup. They don't even need a password to connect, but you have to allow them to connect by click "yes" when they try to connect
[17:58] <salil> undecim: k
[17:58] <undecim> salil, You can even require both password and confirmation
[17:58] <crucialhoax> Anyone know why I cant sudo modprobe acerhdf? I get fatal errors
[17:58] <Ziber> if a package says it needs two others... why wont apt-get build-dep work?
[17:58] <undecim> crucialhoax, listing said errors might be useful
[17:58] <crucialhoax> acerhdf.ko): No such device
[17:58] <edbian> Ziber, just apt-get install <packageName>  will fix dependencies
[17:58] <afroman> edbian: I have only traceroute6 and it says unknown host
[17:58] <hplc> whats the closest one gets security templates? "Bastille"? "SELinux"?
[17:59] <edbian> afroman, What are you putting in?  (traceroute6 is fine)
[17:59] <crucialhoax> But when I hit the tab key, acerhdf is one of the modules listed so I know its installed. Plus its been included in the kernel since 9.10
[17:59] <mikeg3> I cannot install any updates.  But there is a minor twist.  I installed NOD32 for linux beta, and wonder if that is causing problems.  The update manager popped up after that was installed.  Installing the AV was the last thing I did.
[17:59] <Ziber> edbian: seemingly not. http://paste.ziber.org/57071
[18:00] <undecim> crucialhoax, Either you don't have the device that it uses, or you need to load another module before acerhdf can see the device... Can you give me your laptop model?
[18:00] <afroman> edbian: I even try "sudo traceroute6 www.google.com" and still "host unknown"
[18:00] <edbian> mikeg3, What do you mean you cannot install them?  Where in the process does it go wrong?
[18:00] <cjdevlin> ziber: sudo apt-get -f install
[18:00] <crucialhoax> undecim: Acer aspire one ao532h its a netbook
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> afroman: why sudo for traceroute?
[18:00] <edbian> afroman, use google's ip address instead of the hostname (although it really should be able to figure that out)
[18:01] <undecim> sorry, xchat crashed just a moment ago
[18:01] <afroman> ActionParsnip: that's what edbian told me to do
[18:01] <crucialhoax> undecim: If I ls this directory: /lib/modules/2.6.35-23-generic/kernel/drivers/platform/x86/ it finds acerhdf.ko....
[18:01] <edbian> afroman, <IP_ADDRESS>  <= google for me
[18:01] <brubelsabs> `prevu some_package` ist resulting in a missing dependency, how can I give prevu the hint to install a certain package to fix this?
[18:01] <edbian> afroman, Although I don't think you want to see the traceroute from google
[18:01] <undecim> crucialhoax, It's not a matter of finding the module... THe module can't find the hardware
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> afroman: traceroute doesn't need sudo
[18:01] <mikeg3> ok, I will reboot, re-run update manager, copy the results here in pastebin, if that  is ok.
[18:01] <edbian> ActionParsnip, afroman I said use traceroute6 if you want.  I never said "use www.google.com'
[18:02] <edbian> Ziber, you have broken packages?
[18:02] <evaluate> hello
[18:02] <Ziber> edbian: without the package name it gives http://paste.ziber.org/57072 and with it:
[18:02] <dino> hi
[18:02] <crucialhoax> undecim: Duh, gotcha. Reading is extremely helpful lol
[18:02] <Ziber> edbian: http://paste.ziber.org/57073
[18:02] <evaluate> is there a way I can see which package provides a specific file?
[18:02] <undecim> crucialhoax, So do you know the model of your laptop? often these types of problems are model-specific, and someone has already solved it.
[18:02] <brubelsabs> evaluate: dpkg -S
[18:02] <edbian> Ziber, Are version of Ubuntu are you using?  It seems to think you're using unstable or something?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> mikeg3: sure, we just need the output
[18:03] <Ziber> Ubuntu 9.10
[18:03] <afroman> edbian: ActionParsnip was referring to the "sudo" before traceroute6
[18:03] <afroman> edbian: still "unknow host"
[18:03] <edbian> afroman, can you ping google?
[18:03] <evaluate> brubelsabs, thank you!
[18:03] <afroman> edbian: yes
[18:03] <Ziber> unless.
[18:03] <edbian> afroman, Can you ping the IP address I listed?
[18:03] <Ziber> i think i might know the problem.
[18:03] <crucialhoax> undecim: Post 2 is my answer http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1540740
[18:03] <edbian> Ziber, oh yeah?
[18:04] <edbian> afroman, that's odd...
[18:04] <crucialhoax> undecim: Thanks tho, I thought h/w didnt matter ha
[18:04] <fumbles> Any luck with installing parallels tools on Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[18:04] <Ziber> edbian: This is a new VPS that I recently bought. Out of habit, I tend to copy /etc/apt/sources.list from other servers I have. I think I copied a 9.04 sources.list to 9.10.
[18:05] <edbian> Ziber, possible
[18:05] <Ziber> And there, now it works.
[18:05] <edbian> Ziber, yay!
[18:05] <Ziber> edbian: There are so few sources in the default sources.list tho
[18:05] <edbian> afroman, ActionParsnip Why can he ping but not traceroute ?
[18:05] <edbian> Ziber, haha, try slackware!
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> edbian: not sure, they both use ICMP
[18:05] <edbian> ActionParsnip, mhmm
[18:06] <Ziber> edbian: any place i can get a file with more sources, tho?
[18:06] <crucialhoax> undecim: Is it still safe to use it if its not supported?
[18:06] <edbian> Ziber, Well you should probably pick each one up individually so that you don't get one in the mix that is malicious
[18:06] <Ziber> edbian: true, that'd be smarter.
[18:07] <edbian> Ziber, :)
[18:07] <undecim> crucialhoax: as anglican explained on forum post, use at your own risk. In short, it just means the module hasn't been tested with your BIOS version.
[18:08] <Quantum_Ion> afroman might want to go to ntworking school
[18:08] <crucialhoax> undecim: Whats the worst that could happen?
[18:08] <Ziber> edbian: jsut so used to having a myriad of sources. iirc, the ubuntu 9.10 one has... 2? 3?
[18:08] <edbian> Ziber, But those 2 or 3 have 20,000 + packages
[18:08] <afroman> Quantum_Ion: probably right, but until then can U help?
[18:08] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, actually i believe traceroute (in Linux!) uses UDP instead of ICMP
[18:09] <undecim> crucialhoax: The worst I see happening is it freezes your system, but it could always be worse
[18:09] <Ziber> edbian: yeah... guess the number of sources dont matter.
[18:09] <fumbles> 3d graphics in a vm on a macbook for 10.10? work? I've had no luck
[18:09] <Jinxed-> So I have a camera that is sending me a stream (can do rtsp or rtp) but when I restream it using vlc it adds a ~two second delay, so I was wondering if there was a way (in linux) using something like socat (or anything else) to just send the ip data elsewhere in the network where i wanted to video.... essentially duplicateding the ip video stream comming in to many different locations
[18:09] <Jeruvy> ZykoticK9: it can use either
[18:09] <Quantum_Ion> afroman, your situation is very complex you need a book to untangle the mess
[18:09] <undecim> crucialhoax: Computers are weird sometimes
[18:09] <undecim> crucialhoax, but seeing as computers tend to be more robust nowadays, I don't think it would do anything catastrophic
[18:10] <crucialhoax> undecim: Thanks for your help :)
[18:10] <undecim> crucialhoax, np
[18:10] <afroman> Quantum_Ion: it's not that complex. right now why can't I traceroute?
[18:10] <bastidrazor> afroman: try 'mtr' instead of traceroute6
[18:10] <forteller> Hi everyone! My system is falling more and more apart as time goes by. I'm pretty sure it's because I did an upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 instead of a clean install (and because I do stupid things from time to time :). So I need to do a clean install. My question is: My computer seems a lot faster running on a 32bit live cd than on my installed 64bit system. Is there any possibility that my machine just works better with 32bit?
[18:11] <edbian> forteller, Is it a 32 bit processor?
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: edbian: you can use the -P switch to set the protocol to ICMP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traceroute
[18:11] <ZykoticK9> Jeruvy, you are correct - to use ICMP you can give the -I switch ;)  - thanks for confirming
[18:11] <edbian> forteller, How much ram do you have?
[18:11] <doriangrey> Hello i wonder if on the right clik menu>copy to or move to there is the way to add more locations than home directory or desktop? thanks
[18:11] <mikeg3> Hi again...I am trying to update Ubuntu 10.10.  After rebooting and running update manager, the message is "The package system is broken"
[18:11] <Ziber> edbian: thanks for your help
[18:11] <edbian> afroman, try traceroute6 - P
[18:11] <edbian> Ziber, you figured it out
[18:11] <Jeruvy> ZykoticK9: your welcome.
[18:12] <forteller> edbian: No, I don't think you can install 64bit OS on 32bit processor. I've got 4GiB of RAM
[18:12] <Quantum_Ion> afroman, edbian spent at least 30 minutes trying to unravel your situation I would suggest in the future to keep things simple as possible
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> forteller: you can't. 32bit CPU will only use 32Bit OS
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> forteller: you can install the pae kernel to access up to 64Gb RAM in 32bit
[18:12] <edbian> forteller, You can use 32 bit OS on 64 bit HW but you won't be able to use all of your ram unless you use a special kernel.  however 64 bit should be fastest on 64 bit arch
[18:13] <edbian> afroman, It was fun!  don't worry :P
[18:13] <Jeruvy> forteller: keep in mind a 64-bit OS uses far more resources than a 32-bit OS so maybe there is issues there, or some optimizing to be done (eliminating old 32 bit libraries, etc.)
[18:13] <edbian> gotta go
[18:13] <edbian> good luck! :)
[18:14] <afroman> bastidrazor: mtr works
[18:14] <forteller> edbian: "64 bit should be fastest on 64 bit arch" - That's what I thought too. That's why I'm so confused and came here to ask if it's possible that my machine is some kind of anomoly that runs faster with 32bit
[18:14] <ZykoticK9> Jeruvy, i think "... far more..." is a little misleading (i agree it uses more, just "far" more)
[18:14] <CarlFK> Jeruvy: 64-bit OS uses far more resources - can you expand on that?
[18:14] <afroman> Quantum_Ion: I will
[18:14] <bastidrazor> afroman: i could not get traceroute6 to work for any host. mtr does fine here.
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> forteller: 64bit only really makes things faster when you are encoding data or things like SQL, everything else will run at the same speed
[18:15] <DrDamnit> I think I accidentally created a symlink to a file onto itself (circular). How do I remove the symlink without deleting the file? (ls -l shows: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2010-12-14 11:57<PHONE_NUMBER>.1140.wav -><PHONE_NUMBER>.1140.wav)
[18:16] <bastidrazor> DrDamnit: that is impossible. you would get an error.. file exists
[18:16] <forteller> jeruvy, ActionParsnip: Really? Hm, then I guess I should try installing 32 bit. Do I need the special kernel to use all of my 4 gigs of RAM on 32bit?
[18:16] <ZykoticK9> forteller, yes, you need PAE support
[18:16] <DrDamnit> bastidrazor: Seems so. But it happened. I can press up to review the commands I used. Can't re-duplicate the problem though.
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> !pae
[18:17] <CarlFK> bastidrazor: no error: ln -s foo foo
[18:18] <ZykoticK9> forteller, FYI PAE is a "hack" it does allow more then 3.2GB RAM to be addressed, BUT not my any one program (usually not an issue)
[18:18] <afroman> Quantum_Ion: apperantly edbian has left but could U help me thou?
[18:18] <DrDamnit> bastidrazor: root@voip:/var/spool/asterisk/monitor# ln -s<PHONE_NUMBER>.1140.wav<PHONE_NUMBER>.1140.wav
[18:18] <DrDamnit> ln: accessing `1292337255.1140.wav': Too many levels of symbolic links
[18:18] <arielgrey> hey room how do you find out all the processes that are running from terminal
[18:18] <CarlFK> same with carl@dc10:~/temp$ ls -l bar; lrwxrwxrwx 1 carl carl 3 2010-12-14 12:17 bar -> bar
[18:18] <bastidrazor> CarlFK: foo can not exist before you run that.
[18:18] <vacho> hehe
[18:18] <forteller> ZykoticK9: Thanks!
[18:18] <bastidrazor> arielgrey: use top or 'ps aux'
[18:19] <arielgrey> thank you much bastidrazor
[18:19] <todd_dsm> hey all, I'm trying to connect to a wireless WEP network with a 10-digit hex key. Is there a way to make this happen. The UI doesn't seem to support it.
[18:19] <goltoof> what's the consensus on good live video suites? for green screens and stuff
[18:19] <bastidrazor> arielgrey: you can narrow down the output of 'ps aux' with soemthing like ps aux | grep gdm  .. that would display only matches for gdm
[18:20] <CarlFK> goltoof: I like kdenlive
[18:20] <goltoof> CarlFK:   thx I'll take a gander
[18:20] <CarlFK> goltoof: er, live.. um.. dvswitch, but it doesn't do green screen (yet, there is some work...)
[18:20] <Jeruvy> CarlFK: I guess a better way to say it would be that not all hardware is optimized for 64-bit.  Most newer hardware runs 64-bit ok, but from a performance perspective you may find things different.
[18:20] <afroman> thx every1
[18:20] <DrDamnit> bastidrazor: Cannot copy, mv, cat, or otherwise access file. "Too many levels of symbolic links"
[18:21] <killybilly> hi, is there a way to disable persistence in a Live USB, so it could maintain the changes i made being 'read only'? xD
[18:21] <kostmo> Hi, I've been trying to install Ubuntu as a paravirtualized VM on a RHEL5 host platform running Xen.  I recently discovered python-vm-builder.  How would one set the RHEL host as the "target"?  I've run vmbuilder once and it looks like it's trying to install the VM on my local machine, which I do not want.
[18:21] <goltoof> CarlFK:  honestly I should've googled before asking.  I'm totally new to video editing on any OS.  forced to learn due to an unexpected, er, promotion
[18:21] <bencc1> why when I use "dpkg -L apache2" I only see files under /user folder?
[18:21] <bastidrazor> DrManhattan: ls -hal   and give the output of that file.
[18:22] <bastidrazor> DrDamnit: rather..
[18:22] <bastidrazor> DrManhattan: mis-tab complete
[18:22] <DrDamnit> bastidrazor: Opening it in vim give me an error about a symlnk looop.
[18:22] <toni_> f
[18:22] <CarlFK> goltoof: goolge won't give you much help in this case.  kdenlive is a NLE good for post production editing.  dvswitch is good for mixing dv streams live.  what do you want to do?
[18:22] <goltoof> CarlFK:   not live, just adding chromakey fx to videos
[18:23] <weekly> QUESTION: So the bios detects my hard drives on startup, they are in the fstab by UUID, but ubuntu wont mount them anymore (this worked yesterday) when i try to manualy mount them i get "mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/backup busy" I cant get it to auto mount anymore ARGGHH!!
[18:24] <CarlFK> goltoof: kdenlive. although there is http://openshot.org/ that uses the same render engine (mlt) - I have not looked at it at all, but should some day.
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> weekly: then it's mounted, you can't mount it twice
[18:24] <cyclist_2> ZykoticK9: just to let you know what happened: there was no 'error message' after I pasted './GoogleEarthLinux.bin --target /tmp/ge'; a GUI window opened and I clicked on 'install'; it claimed that it was a success; I try to run it and... nothing! no conection to their server at all [just the initial page with a black screen]; I terminated the command on the CLI with CTRL-C and pasted the steps 8 through 11; a new [differen
[18:24] <regenbogenfuesse>  Hi. I have a Radeon 9200 SE  gfxcard....  how can i set the 2 second VGA Head on this card to be an extended Desktop on a seperate Monitor, in xorg.conf?
[18:24] <gaarh> hey  everyone, i have a broadcom wireless nick installed, worked for some time, then it refused to connect to my ap.. tried to fix it and it did, but it lasted for around 10 secs... however i can connect to open networks.. i use b43.. anyone have an idea to wtf can be wrong?
[18:24] <weekly> ActionParsnip, I realize this, but they are not browseable in /media
[18:24] <regenbogenfuesse> -2
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> weekly: try: cd ~; sudo umount /media/backup; sudo mount -a
[18:25] <bastidrazor> DrDamnit: you're trying to open a .wav file in vim ..? that seems odd
[18:25] <CarlFK> ActionParsnip: you know you don't need the ~?
[18:25] <DrDamnit> bastidrazor: I just wanted to see if I could access the file at all. I know I would get garbage, but that would atleast be a good sign.
[18:26] <gaarh> "cd" alone takes you to your home dir
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: the pwd may be in the mount point which will mark it as busy
[18:26] <alexandros> hello
[18:26] <goltoof> CarlFK:  thx again, I'll take a gander
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: so having that part in the command will change the pwd away and release the folder
[18:26] <alexandros> i need help installing NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-260.19.29.run
[18:26] <CarlFK> goltoof: stay away from cinderella.  lots of features, buggy as hell.
[18:26] <gaarh> anyways anyone has an idea? im so fusterated over ubuntu that im about to remove it
[18:26] <undecim> alexandros: Don't use the download from the nvidia site
[18:26] <alexandros> i get error You appear to be running an X server
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> alexandros: why not just install the nvidia driver from the repos.
[18:26] <goltoof> CarlFK:   will do
[18:27] <undecim> alexandros: just go to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[18:27] <weekly> ActionParsnip, "umount: /media/backup: not mounted" mount -a returned http://paste.ubuntu.com/543728/
[18:27] <undecim> alexandros: From there, you just have to enable the driver and it will download from the Ubuntu repos and do all the dirty work for you
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> alexandros: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-nvidia-260-19-12-drivers-in-ubuntu-10-1010-04-using-ppa.html
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> weekly: thats fine, those are already mounted
[18:28] <cyclist_2> ZykoticK9: thank you for your support today; it just was not *my day* to get it running on my system; for the record: I am on Lucid Linx, still, but I followed your instructions anyway
[18:28] <bastidrazor> DrDamnit: what is the output of ls -hal  on that file?
[18:28] <gobbe> weekly: please paste your /etc/fstab also
[18:28] <irreverant> Man I forgot how to get out of the command line when booting, is it su -pass init 5?
[18:28] <DrDamnit> bastidrazor: just shows the same file in red.
[18:28] <weekly> ActionParsnip, they are NOT mounted. i cannot browse them, gobbe give me a sec
[18:29] <bastidrazor> DrDamnit: i'm asking about file size. i think the file is empty
[18:29] <DrDamnit> bastidrazor: 19
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> irreverant: you can use CTRL+ALT+F7 if you dropped there from desktop
[18:29] <luxurymode> hey all. installed ubuntu on my laptop, but cannot adjust screen brightness. when i click my keyboard button to increase brightness, it does bring up the brightness dialog, and shows its increasing, but it doesnt actually increase.
[18:29] <irreverant> Action: no I boot into there directy its Ubuntu 10.10 server
[18:29] <bastidrazor> DrDamnit: that file is virtually empty and does not contain anything useful.
[18:29] <gaarh> hey  everyone, i have a broadcom wireless nick installed, worked for some time, then it refused to connect to my ap.. tried to fix it and it did, but it lasted for around 10 secs... however i can connect to open networks.. i use b43.. anyone have an idea to wtf can be wrong?
[18:29] <l3dx> using the bundled "remote desktop" feature is awfully slow. should work fine over wlan, right?
[18:30] <gobbe> irreverant: sudo init 5
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> luxurymode: what make / model laptop? You completely forgot to state that
[18:30] <irreverant> yea i tired that.
[18:30] <DrDamnit> bastidrazor: tried removing it (hopeing it would remove the symlnk and leave the orignal file) and now they are both gone. OFW. Thanks anyway. I will see if I can re-produce that. I cannot believe it let me do that without throwing an error.
[18:30] <zatan> Hi how can i make QT to render Subpixel Smoothind (LCDS) ?
[18:30] <gobbe> weekly: also would be nice to see what mount says
[18:31] <gaarh> hey  everyone, i have a broadcom wireless nick installed, worked for some time, then it refused to connect to my ap.. tried to fix it and it did, but it lasted for around 10 secs... however i can connect to open networks.. i use b43.. anyone have an idea to wtf can be wrong?
[18:32] <weekly> gobbe, my fstab = http://paste.ubuntu.com/543736/
[18:32] <irreverant> what is the command to start x windows?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> gaarh: try connecting to a wired connection and getting fully updated
[18:32] <gobbe> irreverant: startx
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> irreverant: startx
[18:32] <gaarh> doesnt help
[18:32] <ratcheer> irreverant: try "sudo service gdm start"
[18:32] <gaarh> ActionParsnip: updates is what im blaming this on tho
[18:32] <weekly> gobbe, mount returns http://paste.ubuntu.com/543738/
[18:33] <irreverant> im trying sudo apt-get xinit
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> gaarh: try reinstalling the driver stuffs again
[18:33] <gaarh> i have just done that for like the 12 or 13th time
[18:33] <gaarh> works of around 10 sec everytime
[18:34] <gaarh> its like it refuses to connect to anything that isent an open network
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> gaarh: after the link drops then run: dmesg | less  it will give clues
[18:34] <gaarh> even refuses wep
[18:34] <gobbe> weekly: ok, and what about "sudo blkid | grep 6222ba0a-6594-469a-8748-41530f257501"
[18:34] <gaarh> ActionParsnip: is there a way to revert the latest ubuntu updates?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> gaarh: not that I know of. Could always try ndisgtk + windows driver   is there a bug logged for this? Is the system a laptop or branded pc?
[18:36] <weekly> gobbe,  "/dev/sdb1: UUID="6222ba0a-6594-469a-8748-41530f257501" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3" " returns http://paste.ubuntu.com/543740/
[18:36] <ko2> hello, can you help me with that: http://dpaste.com/285764/
[18:36] <ko2> i have kde3.4 or kde 3.5 and the program i want to use uses qt>=4.3. Might that cause the problem?
[18:36] <alexandros> Doesnt seems with this method the driver to be installed
[18:36] <irreverant> Well atleast i got somwhere, now after runnin sudo apt-get xinit i have a mouse and a white box with username@ubuntu:~$
[18:36] <gaarh> ActionParsnip: its a netbook, and its chipset has worked for the last 10 years
[18:36] <weekly> gobbe, ooops messed up your command, but i put it in right
[18:37] <doriangrey>  Hello i wonder if on the right clik menu>copy to or move to there is the way to add more locations than home directory or desktop? thanks
[18:37] <gobbe> weekly: can you mount it manually? sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/backup ?
[18:37] <irreverant> sudo service gdm start > gdm: unrecognized service
[18:37] <gaarh> ActionParsnip: i think this is ubuntu related
[18:38] <gaarh> never had such issues on debian
[18:38] <weekly> gobbe, "mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/backup busy" is what i get when i try to mount it manually
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> gaarh: check bug reports then
[18:38] <YouArePwned> hey guys again
[18:38] <undecim> alexandros: Do you have the option to install the driver in System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers?
[18:38] <gaarh> i did
[18:39] <YouArePwned> i've just installed Ubuntu 10.10 on a notebook
[18:39] <gaarh> 1000's of this kinds of bugs for ubuntu, without answers
[18:39] <YouArePwned> the pidgin's msn module doesn't seem to work
[18:39] <YouArePwned> it says: "Authenication failure"
[18:39] <YouArePwned> and i added some certificates aswell
[18:39] <AdvoWork> YouArePwned, theres an easy fix
[18:39] <weekly> gobbe, could it be a ownership problem with the fstab?
[18:39] <YouArePwned> AdvoWork: so what should i do?
[18:39] <AdvoWork> YouArePwned, lemme find my link, ill pm you when i have
[18:39] <dwarder> YouArePwned: ohh, noo
[18:39] <gobbe> weekly: manual mount doesn't use fstab
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> gaarh: then all I can suggest is ndisgtk
[18:40] <gobbe> weekly: it looks like your disk is busy for some reason, does fuser /media/backup  list any processes?
[18:41] <gaarh> ActionParsnip: might be a simple fix
[18:41] <Goliath> hey i have 4 rar files, part1 -4. How do i extract them with ark?
[18:41] <gaarh> just dont get why this happends, has worked fine for 2 months
[18:41] <weekly> gobbe, nope, nothing returned
[18:42] <gaarh> ActionParsnip: the ndis way wount be broken like the STA driver right?
[18:42] <gaarh> aha emulated ethernet
[18:42] <gaarh> kak*
[18:42] <gaarh> aka*
[18:44] <gobbe> weekly: i believe that you get same error if you try to run sudo mount -a ?
[18:44] <weekly> gobbe, yes sir
[18:44] <gaarh> thanks ActionParsnip
[18:45] <killybilly> hi, is there a way to disable persistence in a Live USB, so it could maintain the changes i made being 'read only'? xD
[18:46] <weekly> gobbe, they are showing up in the system>admin>disk utility
[18:46] <Kindari|work> Any way to make the google chat badge requests 'prettier' in empathy? dialog that pops up is really long with url data.
[18:46] <lolmaus> Samba question. Guests should have read-only access to my share while me and my family should be able to gain write access (from Windows). What combination of options should i use? How do i authenticate?
[18:47] <gobbe> lolmaus: samba + acl
[18:47] <gobbe> lolmaus: authentication could be local passwords in linux-box
[18:48] <alexandros> i installed nvidia drivers but how i enable them?
[18:48] <kev_> can someone please explain to me why it shows i have more users logged in when i only have 1
[18:48] <kev_> 11:45:49 up 1 day, 12:13,  4 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[18:48] <kev_> USER     TTY      FROM              LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
[18:48] <kev_> kev      pts/0    ip68-110-84-69.p 10:30    0.00s  0.11s  0.04s sshd: kev [priv]
[18:48] <FloodBot2> kev_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:48] <weekly> gobbe, when i try to mount them in the palimpsest disk utility i get : http://paste.ubuntu.com/543741/
[18:48] <|Kellan|> Hello all I am trying to set my screen resolution from the command line. I am running Ubuntu Server 10.4 xrandr gives the error "Can't open Display" and there is no xorg.conf file. I am hooking the server to a KVM Switch that only supports 1024x768 and Ubuntu has directed a higher resolution. How can I set the max display?
[18:48] <edbian> kev_, Don't flood silly
[18:48] <kev_> sorry
[18:49] <edbian> !pastebin | kev_
[18:49] <goltoof> how can i give a user full access to all subdirs recursively without changing file perms themselves?
[18:49] <lolmaus> gobbe, do i really need acl? All users should either have read only or writeable access to a share. Two variants only. No need for per-directory limitations. And how can a Windows user authenticate to a share when he's already inside as guest?
[18:49] <kev_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/543743/
[18:49] <edbian> goltoof, You cannot
[18:49] <gobbe> weekly: yes, that's because your fstab doesn't have mountpoint with sdb1-name but with id
[18:49] <goltoof> edbian:   :/
[18:49] <gobbe> lolmaus: no you dont
[18:49] <edbian> goltoof, That is the purpose of the permissions.  To control who accesses them.
[18:49] <kev_> it says i have more users logged in then i really do, edbian?
[18:49] <lolmaus> gobbe ?
[18:49] <edbian> kev_, It lists one user logged on.
[18:49] <gobbe> lolmaus: you dont need acl, you could do it only wioth samba and local samba-users
[18:50] <kev_> why does it say 4 users logged on then?
[18:50] <YouArePwned> so yeah
[18:50] <YouArePwned> my pidgin still says authenication failure
[18:50] <YouArePwned> i really need to set it up now
[18:50] <edbian> kev_, I don't know...
[18:50] <kev_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/543745/
[18:50] <edbian> kev_, What command is that?
[18:51] <edbian> kev_, What does who show?
[18:52] <lolmaus> gobbe, the question is how do i authenticate (from Windows) to gain write access? The share would not ask for a password, it lets me in with readonly access immediately.
[18:52] <luxurymode> hey all. im running ubuntu on a Gateway NV78 laptop. I cant adjust screen brightness. When I press keyboard button to adjust, dialog shows up and shows its increasing brightness, but nothing actually changes.
[18:52] <gobbe> lolmaus: you can mount it with user-id from windows, if you just browse it opens guest by default
[18:53] <gobbe> lolmaus: so browsing uses guest, but if you map the network drive you can give account
[18:54] <YouArePwned> anyone can help me please?
[18:54] <wildfire100> hey, will a pc dvd rom torrent of call of duty work on ubuntu in any way?
[18:54] <edbian> YouArePwned, Probs.  What is the issue?
[18:54] <YouArePwned> again, i have a problem with pidgin's msn module
[18:54] <edbian> wildfire100, possibly with wine.  Ask in that channel
[18:54] <lolmaus> gobbe, that seems to be the answer! Quite obvious. :) I've also recalled there's a "control userpasswords2" tool that lets you manage remembered network share passwords.
[18:54] <edbian> YouArePwned, Ahh, sorry.  IDK
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> luxurymode: run: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub     change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash apci=off"   save the new file and run; sudo update-grub    reboot to test, should make the backlight work a bit better but you'll loose battery information
[18:54] <YouArePwned> oh k
[18:54] <wildfire100> ok
[18:55] <weekly> gobbe, anythign else you could suggest i try about the harddrive mounting thing?
[18:55] <luxurymode> actionparsnip: im a total linuxx noob. how do i change the grub cmdline?
[18:56] <gobbe> weekly: hmmh, trying to figure out what's wrong but still no idea :-/
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> luxurymode: it will open in a text editor, i'm sure you've used one of those before
[18:56] <luxurymode> hehe yea
[18:56] <luxurymode> just find the file on my system ?
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> luxurymode: i gave the EXACT command to run to get it opened and writable
[18:56] <luxurymode> oh nevermind the terminal command will open it ok
[18:56] <luxurymode> sorry ;)
[18:57] <weekly> gobbe, gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/preferences/media_automount is on and media_automount_open is on....
[18:57] <|trey|> got a question for you guys, i just built a new pc and installed a fresh ubuntu distro 10.10 and it wont let my audio play to save my life lol
[18:58] <edbian> |trey|, What kind of files are they?
[18:58] <gobbe> weekly: yes, that might be it
[18:58] <mokka> hello, can someone help me with jolicloud?
[18:58] <gobbe> weekly: could you try to mount it somewhere else?
[18:58] <gobbe> weekly: to se just that it's working
[18:58] <|trey|> edbian i have tried many different types, i have installed vlc w/codecs but still no luck
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> mokka: its not supported here
[18:58] <luxurymode> actionparsnip: thanks so much for your help. really appreciate it. rebooting now
[18:58] <edbian> |trey|, Are you sure sound works at all?
[18:58] <weekly> gobbe, ill try, gimme a sec
[18:59] <|trey|> i know the amp/mixer works fine, have an ipod on it now
[18:59] <edbian> |trey|, Do the files play in the player but you hear nothing?  Or do they simply error out
[18:59] <|trey|> they play fine in the player
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> mokka: there is #jolicloud where your OS is supported
[18:59] <|trey|> no audio
[18:59] <kev_> edbian, who shows the same as w
[18:59] <mokka> ok thx
[18:59] <kev_> its odd.
[18:59] <edbian> |trey|, alsamixer  in a term
[18:59] <|trey|> and I got the realtek drivers but they dont seem to want to install or do anything
[19:00] <edbian> |trey|, Are the pcm and master sliders up?
[19:00] <kev_> edbian, http://paste.ubuntu.com/543748/
[19:01] <|trey|> I dont know where to find those sliders but i can see the hardware, just cant get it to play
[19:01] <weekly> gobbe, created a new dir "test" in /media/ with sudo. Still no dice with the manual mount "mount: /dev/sdc1 already mounted or /media/test busy" even after sudo umount -a
[19:01] <gobbe> weekly: try to mount it somewhere else then /media
[19:01] <gobbe> weekly: like /mnt or something
[19:01] <edbian> kev_, Where is this machine?  Your personally?
[19:02] <edbian> |trey|, alsamixer in the terminal
[19:02] <kev_> no its at a DC center in cali, edbian.
[19:02] <|trey|> i cant start it
[19:02] <saganbyte> Is it possible to resize an image from nautilus (basically without gimp)
[19:02] <saganbyte> I need to make an image smaller than what it is
[19:02] <edbian> kev_, Perhaps they have users you can't see / know about
[19:02] <|trey|> says cannot load mixer controls, invalid argument
[19:02] <baggar11> saganbyte: what ubuntu version?
[19:02] <weekly> gobbe, HAHA, it worked when i tried to mount it to a folder in my /home/
[19:02] <saganbyte> 10.10
[19:02] <saganbyte> baggar11, 10.10
[19:02] <gobbe> weekly: yes, it's the automounter that's preventing it
[19:02] <dwarder> 10.10
[19:03] <luxurymode> actionparsnip: screen looks brighter (i think...) but still cant adjust
[19:03] <Paddy_NI> saganbyte, there is a right click entry when you use the nautilus-scripts package
[19:03] <baggar11> saganbyte: open in shotwell and do a "save as"
[19:03] <edbian> |trey|, I think you made a typo
[19:03] <kev_> edbian, maybe. I'm going to ask now. I thought that was a bit strange and it boggled my mind lol.
[19:03] <baggar11> saganbyte: that brings up the resize options
[19:03] <edbian> |trey|, bottom line here.  i think your volume is down.
[19:03] <edbian> kev_, It is very strange
[19:03] <Paddy_NI> saganbyte, very handy indeed
[19:03] <|trey|> im pretty sure its not, i can see the mixer controls and im not seeing anything disabled or down
[19:03] <Paddy_NI> saganbyte, even a audio conversion script is available
[19:04] <edbian> |trey|, mmm, I'm not sure
[19:04] <|trey|> ive got the alsa mixer up
[19:04] <Paddy_NI> !info nautilus-scripts | saganbyte
[19:04] <saganbyte> baggar11, thanks :)
[19:04] <luxurymode> how do i remove all of these "Y has quit" and other notifications. its clogging up the irc window for me
[19:04] <|trey|> take off joins and parts
[19:04] <weekly> gobbe, is the automounter a function of nautilus? would turning it off in gconf under the natilus key do anything?
[19:04] <saganbyte> Paddy_NI, I ll have a look at nautilus-scripts :)
[19:05] <itilious> are there any versions of ubuntu that would be able to be installed to a 2GB flash drive?
[19:05] <Protocol84> wow.. never had to pass a turing test to join an irc channel before...
[19:05] <|trey|> ubuntu netbook
[19:05] <jasonmchristos> hi folks
[19:05] <edbian> itilious, any of them?
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> luxurymode: not sure about the adjust, is there a bug logged?
[19:06] <jasonmchristos> is there an #ubuntu-offtopic still ?
[19:06] <gobbe> weekly: you could turn it of in gconf
[19:06] <itilious> edbian, they would fit on a drive that small?
[19:06] <gobbe> weekly: but the idea is to mount automatically usb-sticks etc
[19:06] <edbian> itilious, The live CD is only 699 MB
[19:06] <gobbe> weekly: add static mounts to somewhere else?
[19:06] <Diverdude> if i do: grep -r NDK_PROJ it searches all files in current folder and all files in all subfolders for text containing the string "NDK_PROJ" right?
[19:06] <itilious> edbian, i'm trying to get a portable installation going so that I can use an updated virus scanner on other machines
[19:07] <luxurymode> actionparsnip: how can i check for a bug log?
[19:07] <itilious> edbian, can the live cd/jump drive do this?
[19:07] <Diverdude> if i do: grep -r NDK_PROJ it searches all files in current folder and all files in all subfolders for text containing the string "NDK_PROJ" right?
[19:07] <edbian> itilious, Use the Ubuntu magic USB creator or whatever (yes it can)
[19:07] <weekly> gobbe, ill try the gconf key first, i would rather not have to re-write all my backup cron jobs, but i will if its going to act up like this
[19:07] <gobbe> weekly: you could also do a link from /media/backup to /mnt/backup for example
[19:08] <itilious> edbian, when i tried to install avg .deb it had an error though
[19:08] <weekly> gobbe, good idea what is the syntax for doing somethign like that? never tried before
[19:08] <itilious> i already have an ubuntu jump drive that i booted to and tried to install .deb avg in "try ubuntu" is this the correct way to do this?
[19:09] <edbian> itilious, yes, that's correct
[19:09] <edbian> itilious, The error is probably unrelated to the fact that it's a live CD
[19:09] <Diverdude> if i do: grep -r NDK_PROJ it searches all files in current folder and all files in all subfolders for text containing the string "NDK_PROJ" right?
[19:10] <gobbe> weekly: sudo ln -s /media/backup/ /mnt/backup for example
[19:10] <gobbe> weekly: sorry, viceversa
[19:10] <DrAcid1> hello
[19:11] <gobbe> weekly: you want to add /medi/backup to point to /mnt/backup, so sudo ln -s /mnt/backup /media/backup
[19:11] <DrAcid1> Humble indie bundle is back! www.humblebundle.com
[19:11] <jasonmchristos> QUESTION: i backed up my home directory with rsync looking in /.gnupg/private-keysxx/  its empty does that mean my pgp key is gone?
[19:11] <b0nghitter> GNS3 0.7.3 was released a couple days ago, i hope ubuntu devs can start testing new gns3 and dynamips, to get them in the repos asap
[19:12] <popey> jasonmchristos: why would you back that folder up, that's not where your private keys live by default
[19:12] <luxurymode> actionparsnip: how do i check for a bug log?
[19:13] <tittn> hello is there any way to reset the sound settings in the latest ubuntu?? cos after using usb headset it cant find my built in mic anymore :(
[19:14] <weekly> gobbe, thanks for the help man, im gonna try the natilus thing ill be back to tell you how it went... thanks
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> !bugs | luxurymode
[19:14] <sebuba> Hello, how to display IP of who is printing in cups ?
[19:14] <jasonmchristos> popey: i backed up the entire home dir, i thought thats where they should be if i want to restore them where do i extract them from in my backup of entire home dir
[19:14] <oldfa> hi all! I'm on liveCD of Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS on a really old desktop-pc
[19:14] <oldfa> not this from I writing to
[19:15] <popey> jasonmchristos: they should just be in ~/.gnupg/
[19:15] <itilious> how can i  add "i915.modeset=1" before "quiet splash" permanently to ubuntu live ?
[19:15] <oldfa> I have an asus wl138g v2 but it does not see my wireless
[19:15] <bitplane> Hi, I just installed 11.04 and when I try to resize a window, I have to hit it exactly on the border. Any way to make this a bit wider like it used to be in 10.x?
[19:15] <bitplane> It's like one pixel, I need more than one pixel
[19:15] <bitplane> Pixels are small
[19:15] <luxurymode> same issue with me bitplane
[19:15] <jasonmchristos> popey: in secring.gpg?
[19:15] <luxurymode> its impossible to get that resize!
[19:16] <Needshelp> Can somone hellp me with some issues im having?
[19:16] <titane> hi, i think i need help ^^
[19:16] <titane> i restarted my laptop in order to install updates and when i got back to the logon screen, gnome was "less beautiful"
[19:16] <titane> i logged in and i got no wallpaper, no icons, and an infinity of apps opening in the bottom bar: "file manager"
[19:16] <titane> i really don't know what to do...
[19:16] <FloodBot2> titane: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:17] <Needshelp> Specifically i have a machine here that i am trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 on but the screen cums up hazy, as if its not syncing with the screen, and it wont let me install it on the compuer
[19:18] <coder2> i have some broken packages installed in my lucid........but synaptic package manager gives a warning that your system may be unstable........so what should i do???
[19:18] <gonz0> After installing "xautoclick 0.30" my LeftMousButton stopped working on the desktop. Any solutions?
[19:18] <cyberjacob> hi guys
[19:18] <pawan> could anyone plz help me fix the following errors? I've failed to solve it with a couple of methods I've tried so far.
[19:18] <pawan> these are the errors I get: W: GPG error: http://linux.dropbox.com maverick Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG FC918B335044912E Dropbox Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:18] <pawan> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com maverick Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:18] <pawan> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:18] <FloodBot2> pawan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:18] <kcorcoran> Yesterday I downloaded some source applications and installed.  that said, can I use this same source code elsewhere?  I would assume so, however I am unsure if the ./configure commands writes anything in the source folders.  any insight?
[19:18] <jasonmchristos> popey: think i got it thanks
[19:18] <cyberjacob> does anybody know about iSCSI?
[19:19] <pawan> I'm sorry
[19:19] <gonz0> After installing "xautoclick 0.30" my LeftMousButton stopped working on the desktop. Any solutions? Ive uninstalled this app, but the button still isnt working
[19:19] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[19:20] <weekly> gobbe, It worked, it was the Nautilus auto-mounter screwing it up, they mount now that i disabled it in gconf, thanks for the help man i really appreciate all you guys do in here for us, thanks!
[19:20] <gobbe> weekly: np
[19:20] <coder2> my ubuntu hangs........anybody help?
[19:21] <gonz0> After installing "xautoclick 0.30" my LeftMouseButton stopped working on the desktop. Any solutions? Ive uninstalled this app, but the button still isnt working.
[19:21] <pawan> I get the following error messages while running apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/543768/
[19:21] <pawan> could anyone help me fix them?
[19:21] <luxurymode> actionparsnip: which package would i use with that cmd? sorry, im a total noob
[19:22] <luxurymode> i just did "display" seems to have worked
[19:22] <robbie_tzr> given the cheap price of HDD's these days, is there any merit in running 10.10 desktop edition on a RAID5 array? Although this is seen as a "fake" or Software Array, would there be much decrease in terms of performance on a (reasonably) modern dual core PC?
[19:22] <will777> Help!   Does anyone have experience recovering from a fully encrypted drive (LUKS is it called?..   I did it during Installation using Ubuntu Hardy 8.04  Alternative CD Installer)...      I don't know how to access the data if I end up slaving the drive, as far as I know, I need to "boot" from this drive to even decrypt the system...
[19:23] <gobbe> robbie_tzr: if you mean decrease in performance of CPU; no
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> luxurymode: acpi probably
[19:23] <gobbe> robbie_tzr: modern cpu's can handle software-raids well
[19:24] <Goliath> hey i load a game with dolphin and it says player 1 error: nunchuk or classic controller is required. what to do?
[19:24] <robbie_tzr> thanks gobbe; just wanted to guage the general opinion on such a set-up. Possibly regarded as "overkill" for a normal desktop PC perhaps, but I like the reassurance that this sort of setup can provide,.
[19:25] <gobbe> robbie_tzr: yes. i'v been running software-raids several years now in servers also
[19:26] <gobbe> robbie_tzr: so go for it :)
[19:26] <will777> Anyone have experience mounting and decrypting (slaving) an ecrypted (with alternative installer CD) system boot drive for data recovery?
[19:26] <casperfoo> Goliath: a WII game?
[19:26] <Goliath> yes
[19:26] <casperfoo> Goliath: I think you're in the wrong channel
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Goliath: i'd consult the emulators page
[19:27] <robbie_tzr> Thanks gobbe; can I ask a further question - in terms of dealing with the possible implications of this, is it worth actually "breaking" the raid, ie, removing and formatting one disk, in order that I can perform a dummy-run of disk failure followed by disk renewal, and it regenerating?
[19:28] <gobbe> robbie_tzr: well. if you want to do that you could, but i don't see any points there :)
[19:29] <cyberjacob> nobody know about iSCSI???
[19:29] <luxurymode> how do i just launch text editor?
[19:29] <Yeti_69> !fr
[19:29] <robbie_tzr> ok gobbe; sorry, it was posed as a question but more likely a scenario where this comes into play. I do have my desktop actually set up on a RAID5 basis. Thank you very much for your comments :)
[19:29] <DrAcid1> Humble indie bundle is back! www.humblebundle.com
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> luxurymode: press ALT+F2 and type: gedit
[19:29] <IdleOne> DrAcid1: Please don't advertise here
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> luxurymode: or there is gedit in the Applications -> accessories menu
[19:30] <DrAcid1> No no
[19:30] <DrAcid1> !
[19:30] <luxurymode> awesome thanks
[19:30] <DrAcid1> It's not advertising!
[19:30] <Walex> robbie_tzr: it could be a good idea, especially if you want to an idea of how long it takes to resync.
[19:30] <znh> hello. how can I reinstall the modules? I installed a module which is unstable
[19:30] <DrAcid1> I hope You DO know that it is THE FAMOUS indie bundle of games for GNU/Linux!!!
[19:30] <KipMacy> do any wireless cell usb device thingies work straight out of box with ubuntu?
[19:31] <luxurymode> whats a good app to quickly search entire computer (besides google desktop)?
[19:31] <iceroot> luxurymode: locate
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> KipMacy: depends on the chip
[19:31] <geirha> KipMacy: Mine does
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> !hcl |  KipMacy
[19:31] <SamuraiAlba> I feel insane.
[19:31] <tehgeekmeister> i've googled this and all the answers haven't worked so far
[19:31] <tehgeekmeister> how do i make apt-get *truly* noninteractive
[19:31] <luxurymode> iceroot: do i need to install or is it included?
[19:31] <Needshelp> I am having issues with my screen and not being able to download ubuntu. The screen is blurry and does not allow me to install it, though ic an use the demo. Can anyone help?
[19:32] <geirha> KipMacy: Check that it has the penguin icon on the box. Then it should work out of the box in Ubuntu.
[19:32] <SamuraiAlba> I was wondering if I can upgrade to Natty Alpha on a Wubi 10.10 install.  Possible?  If so, how?
[19:32] <tehgeekmeister> for use in server setup script
[19:32] <robbie_tzr> thanks Walex. If RAID5 can provide this sort of redundancy, is it worth experimenting with more "exotic" filesystems such as BTRFS or stick with ext4? Just wondering along the lines of now the possibility of disk failure is reduced, can I therefore be more adventurous with the filesystem?
[19:32] <iceroot> luxurymode: sudo apt-get install locate  but it is not scanning the content of a file only the name
[19:32] <killybilly> hi, is there a way to disable persistence in a Live USB, so it could maintain the changes i made being 'read only'? xD
[19:32] <znh> hello. how can I reinstall the modules? I installed a module which is unstable
[19:32] <luxurymode> iceroot: thanks gotcha
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> tehgeekmeister: sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[19:32] <goltoof> how to list every file in dir with perm 777?
[19:32] <KipMacy> geirha: i got one... sometimes it works with wpa2, sometimes not! sometimes need a reboot.  it is very mysterious and aggravating
[19:32] <luxurymode> easiest way to sync openoffice with google docs?
[19:32] <goltoof> file and dir
[19:32] <Walex> robbie_tzr: storage system redundancy has nothing to do with filesystem operation.
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> !persistant | killybilly
[19:32] <SamuraiAlba> RaidZ2 seems nice, robbie_tzr
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> !persistent
[19:33] <geirha> KipMacy: 07d1:3c03 D-Link System DWL-G122 802.11g Adapter [ralink rt73]  <- never had any issues with that one.
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> killybilly: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[19:33] <Walex> robbie_tzr: note that RAID5, RAID6 and other forms of parity RAID are usually a bad idea, except in a couple of narrow cases.
[19:33] <tehgeekmeister> ActionParsnip: i'm installing, not upgrading, and using "export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive && sudo apt-get install -y -q packages"  mysql still asks for a password to be given, though.
[19:33] <goltoof> luxurymode:  that sounds like a google api question
[19:33] <luxurymode> yeah, you're right ;)
[19:33] <Walex> robbie_tzr: 'ext4' can also be very adventurous if you change some parameters :-).
[19:33] <geirha> KipMacy: Hm. Yeah, that sounds a bit flakey. I'd consider reporting it as a bug on launchpad.
[19:33] <sbalmos> There's probably no real way to get PulseAudio to use ESD, so I can get audio over FreeNX without massive mucking around with individual apps' output prefs, right?
[19:34] <Walex> robbie_tzr: consider doing a web search for the "O_PONIES" debate...
[19:34] <vibrunazo> You guys seen the www.humblebundle.com #2? You can get 5 linux games for any ammount in donation :D
[19:34] <KipMacy> geirha: the one you just mentioned, you got it to work with WPA2 reliably?
[19:34] <robbie_tzr> ok Walex, I had just read/understood that BTRFS was sill regarded as being a relatively new FS, and I wondered if there were any benefits to changing from ext4 - I have seen a few websites with various benchmarks for FS comparisons, and just wondered what people were using :)
[19:34] <goltoof> luxurymode:  if i were familiar with OO i'd have something to say but I'm 100% GD user
[19:34] <IdleOne> !ot | vibrunazo
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> tehgeekmeister: http://fixunix.com/debian/127236-apt-get-y-upgrade-non-interactive-sessions-replacing-conf-files-etc.html
[19:34] <luxurymode> i clicked applications on gnome panel and it wont close now
[19:34] <geirha> KipMacy: Oh, no, I've only tried it with WEP.
[19:34] <luxurymode> the drop down menu is still there
[19:34] <luxurymode> wont close
[19:35] <goltoof> how to list every file in dir with perm 777?
[19:35] <casperfoo> luxurymode: killall -HUP gnome-panel
[19:35] <luxurymode> and i cant switch to places or system
[19:35] <luxurymode> thanks!
[19:35] <luxurymode> though i cant open terminal
[19:35] <Walex> robbie_tzr: almost all filestem "benchmarks" are done by people who understand very little of what they are measuring. There are a lot of morons in that area.
[19:35] <KipMacy> i think there is some mysterious voodoo still with wpa2 + wireless devices + manufacturers who have not released source
[19:35] <LUCKY__> hello
[19:35] <luxurymode> is there a key shortcut to open terminal?
[19:35] <sbalmos> robbie_tzr: I'm currently running btrfs as root fs and such. Nothing objectively measured yet, but it "feels" sluggish at times.
[19:35] <SamuraiAlba> How do I upgrade a wubi installed 10.10 Ubuntu to Natty Alpha 1?
[19:35] <goltoof> luxurymode:   alt+ctrl +t
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> goltoof: i'd ask in #bash
[19:35] <tehgeekmeister> ActionParsnip: read that already, tried it.
[19:35] <casperfoo> but it was too late...
[19:35] <LUCKY__> I need help in installation of ubuntu netbook 10.10
[19:35] <goltoof> ActionParsnip:  o rly?  didn't think it was that elaborate
[19:36] <sam-_-> luxurymode, or restart x ctl+alt+backspace
[19:36] <yubahaq> hi everyone
[19:36] <LUCKY__> kindly urently
[19:36] <Walex> robbie_tzr: I personally recommend JFS and XFS. One day, one day NILFS2 will become very useful.
[19:36] <robbie_tzr> thanks Walex - yes I am quite wary of benchmarks/statistics on these comparative sites, for a normal user such as myself, I am happy to stick with ext4.
[19:36] <goltoof> sam-_-:  sounds a bit drastic
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> goltoof: it's gonna be a lot of grep, awk and find-ing
[19:36] <yubahaq> i have a problem about resolution : it doesn't work with startup
[19:36] <sam-_-> goltoof, probably...
[19:36] <ZykoticK9> sam-_-, FYI c+a+backspace was changed to alt+sysrq+k a few releases ago
[19:36] <Walex> robbie_tzr: things like 'ext3', 'ext4' and BTRFS exist only to let enterprise users update in-place without downtime.
[19:37] <yubahaq> i have installed startupmanager but haven't that resolution which i work with
[19:37] <sam-_-> ZykoticK9, good to know. thx
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: it can be reinstated in keyboard settings
[19:37] <Walex> robbie_tzr: 'ext4' is not too bad, but I still like JFS and XFS better.
[19:37] <goltoof> ActionParsnip:   I just want to review every file in my web directory and minimize vulnerability.  curious if there's some test to check the vulnerability of my webserver
[19:37] <jessd> Hi all.  I'm working on a bootable USB key.  It installs an image file onto a target machine.  The problem is that the image file requries the drive on the machien be SDA; the usb key is coming up as SDA.  Is anyone aware of a way to force the boot process to redefine the boot device to be a different drive designation.  It's a lot faster than rebuilding the image process...
[19:37] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, yup a la !dontzap ;)
[19:37] <itaylor57> goltool man find
[19:38] <coz_> ctrl+a;t+backspace does not shut down applications properly   ctrl+alt+F1   log in   sudo restart gdm is much safer
[19:38] <killybilly> ActionParsnip: that explains how to install persistence in a live usb, that i have, what i want to do is 'disable' or 'lock' that capability in order to keep my changes botting but not to write anything else
[19:38] <luxurymode> apparently i had to just click escape
[19:38] <Walex> sbalmos: occasional filesystem sluggishness is often due instead do improper choice of elevator and of flusher paramters. The defaults can be wv ery very wrong.
[19:38] <robbie_tzr> thanks Walex. One more quick question in that case - in the case of my laptop, a DELL Mini10V with an 8gig SSD, should I really be looking at these benchmark sites siting XFS, ZFS, etc, etc, as a means of squeezing the last bit of performance out of the laptop, or be happy with something like ext4?
[19:38] <goltoof> itaylor57:  kind of doubt that
[19:39] <Walex> robbie_tzr: if you have an SSD things are *completely different*
[19:39] <will777> Anyone have experience mounting and decrypting (slaving) an encrypted (with alternative installer CD) system boot drive for data recovery?  Please message me...
[19:39] <unop> coz_, the effect is the same actually, in both cases the window manager is terminated and in getting that signal sends the same signal to all it's children
[19:39] <yubahaq>  i have installed startupmanager but haven't that resolution which i work with
[19:39] <LUCKY__> kindly help me
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> robbie_tzr: i'd use ext2 as it has no journal which will reduce the writes to the storage device
[19:39] <Walex> robbie_tzr: SSDs have A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT performance profile for the hard disks for which most file systems have been designed.,
[19:39] <coz_> unop,   not quite guy... it was disabled for a reason   ctrl+alt+F1  is much much safer
[19:39] <Walex> robbie_tzr: for that kind of SSD use 'ext2', and  *nothing else*.
[19:39] <Chilaquiles> hey guys Im trying to install a wireless card in ubuntu but it doesn't let me do it, is there any documentation where I can get help to do this?
[19:40] <robbie_tzr> Ok Walex- my desktop 10.10 is running happily on a RAID5 3x80gb HDD setup. The laptop is running 10.04 UNR on an 8gig SDD
[19:40] <will777> Chilaquiles check out  NDISWRAPPER   in relation to your particular network device......
[19:40] <Walex> robbie_tzr: NILFS2 might be the filesystem of the future because it is particularly suitable for SSDs,.
[19:40] <will777> (it's not necessarily capitalized) :)
[19:40] <will777> Anyone have experience mounting and decrypting (slaving) an encrypted (with alternative installer CD) system boot drive for data recovery?  Please message me...
[19:40] <robbie_tzr> Walex: really ext2? Can you give me some more info/reasons for this choice of FS please?
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: run: sudo lshw -C network     websearch for the product line to find guides
[19:41] <casperfoo> Walex: why only ext2, what's wrong with ext3/4?
[19:41] <yubahaq> http://pc-techn.blogspot.com/2010/11/check-list-for-linux-security.html
[19:41] <unop> coz_, actually, the reason it was disabled is arguable - I'd say it's so that one can't inadvertently kill the X session using ctrl-alt-backspace
[19:41] <Walex> robbie_tzr: a 3-disk setup is one of the two cases where RAID5 makes some sense.
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> robbie_tzr: it will prolong the life of the device as SSD have limited writes
[19:41] <itaylor57> goltool: find . -perm 777
[19:41] <unop> coz_, and it's not disabled universally - only a few distros do it
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> itaylor57: ooh nice :)
[19:41] <itaylor57> im a cli kinda guy :>)
[19:41] <will777> robbie_tzr:  it probably is because you won't be having all the extraneous data writes for the journaling that will otherwise slow you down with SSD with ext3
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> itaylor57: me too, i just dont search by perm a lot :)
[19:42] <sbalmos> Walex: Admittedly, I have yet to really experiment with btrfs, especially with tuning. Any articles out yet in the intartubez for such?
[19:42] <coz_> unop,  well as I recall several years ago ,,,, ,mnay people coming in here complaingin about gnome and nautilus errors because they used ctrl+altr+baclspace and the errors were quite clear that they were not shut down properly
[19:42] <Walex>  as <ActionParsnip> wrote SSDs have limited rewrites and the journal area of a journal filesystem does heavy writes.
[19:42] <coz_> but have it your way
[19:42] <robbie_tzr> ok - should I therefore consider re-installing UNR10.04 on ext2 on this laptop? I sort of understand the additional complications of running on SSD
[19:42] <peeps[lappy]> is there any easy way to see the shortcut for a gnome menu item?  for example in windows you can right-click any start menu item and view properties to see what path it links to.  why can't I do this in ubuntu
[19:42] <LUCKY__> can u help me in installing ubuntu
[19:42] <tittn> hello
[19:42] <Chilaquiles> I can't install my USB linksys wireless device has someone run into this?
[19:42] <LUCKY__> can anyone help me in installing ubuntu netbook
[19:43] <Walex> also there is really no need for journaling on a smallish SSD because journaling is mostly useful to avoid 'fsck' and SSDs make 'fsck' very fast especially if they are small.
[19:43] <KB1JWQ> !install | LUCKY__
[19:43] <LUCKY__> can anyone help me in installing ubuntu netbook Plzzz
[19:43] <tittn> i need help reconfiguring my micropone on laptop it seems to have disapeard in latest ubuntu after plugging in usb headset
[19:43] <unop> coz_, that may very well be - but that doesn't validate another way of terminating X as better, if you get where I'm coming from.
[19:43] <Walex> robbie_tzr: I would definitely reinstall with 'ext2' on an SSD.
[19:43] <goltoof> !anyone  | LU
[19:43] <Chilaquiles> I can't install my USB linksys wireless device has someone run into this?
[19:43] <Walex> LUCKY__: there are lots of nice HOWTOs for that. It should be really easy.
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: run:   lsusb    websearch for the 8 character ID for the device
[19:44] <luxurymode> lucky_: msg me
[19:44] <W3nd3tta> have you  tried ifconfig -a?
[19:44] <Walex> aaaaah late I got to go. Bye everybody.
[19:44] <robbie_tzr> ok, thanks Walex - I will dig out the USB stick and reinstall on ext2 as per your advice. This netbook holds no important information as I just install dropbox on my 3 linux pc's. It was just a question that started out as RAID on SATA drives and sort of wandered onto SSD :)
[19:44] <W3nd3tta> maybe it is installed but offline. sometimes it happens
[19:44] <LUCKY__> RE: I don't know how to allocate drive during ubuntu installation,
[19:44] <LUCKY__> RE: I don't know how to allocate drive during ubuntu installation,
[19:44] <Chilaquiles> do I have to be connected to the internet to do this ActionParsnip?
[19:45] <robbie_tzr> bye Walex - thank you for your time and responses
[19:45] <LUCKY__> RE: I don't know how to allocate drive during ubuntu installation,
[19:45] <LUCKY__> RE: I don't know how to allocate drive during ubuntu installation,
[19:45] <goltoof> !repeat | LUCKY__
[19:45] <doriangrey>  Hello i wonder if on the right clik menu>copy to or move to there is the way to add more locations than home directory or desktop? thanks
[19:45] <W3nd3tta> LUCKY..have you tried to use the partition editor?
[19:45] <luxurymode> LUCKY_: i can help
[19:45] <goltoof> LUCKY__:  the installer should guide you through the process... is it not?
[19:46] <luxurymode> just did this myself
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: no, it all runs locally, when you have the ID you can fid guides. Knowing its a linksys is fairly worthless as they don't make the chip which you ned to know
[19:46] <luxurymode> query me
[19:46] <LUCKY__> I searched all the WEB
[19:46] <LUCKY__> I searched all the WEB
[19:46] <LUCKY__> I searched all the WEBI searched all the WEB
[19:46] <LUCKY__> I searched all the WEB
[19:46] <goltoof> !repeat | LUCKY__
[19:46] <luxurymode> oh boy
[19:46] <tittn> oO
[19:46] <sbalmos> ohy
[19:46] <Chilaquiles> by ID you mean S/N?
[19:46] <goltoof> LUCKY__  please stop
[19:47] <sbalmos> he's gone already
[19:47] <luxurymode> sheesh
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: it will look something like this: 0483:2016
[19:47] <mattt_> Is there a difference between libsvn-java and svnkit?
[19:48] <CarlFK> it is hard for me to grab a side or corner of a window to resize it.  how do I expand the region i need to grab?
[19:48] <Chilaquiles> ?? I don't see a number like that on my device
[19:48] <Chilaquiles> do I have to run a command to see that number?
[19:48] <MrPicard> Howdy all, trying to install apache/lamp/phpmyadmin on my server, what commnad would i use?
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: you won't, thats a fingerprint reader, it will be in te same FORMAT though.
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> 1lamp | MrPicard
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> !lamp
[19:49] <robbie_tzr> I'm looking to install Ubuntu Server on my 3rd and main PC at home. Is it worth handing over tasks such as DHCP and DNS to a PC, over and above the router? Is there any benefit to be obtained by running SQUID on this PC for example?
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> robbie_tzr: if you have a dhcp / dns solution in place, why change it
[19:50] <goltoof> MrPicard:  sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[19:50] <CarlFK> robbie_tzr: check out http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/squid-deb-proxy
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> robbie_tzr: squid will mean you don't have to use the web for all conent as it may be stored locally, makes the web faster
[19:50] <robbie_tzr> thanks ActionParsnip, seen you in here many times before by the way! I'm really just looking to optimise the setup I have, plus I like to tinker :)
[19:50] <tittn> did anybody read my question else i repeat it :D
[19:50] <MrPicard> Ok i get this error, E: Invalid operation apache2
[19:50] <w_wilkins> Anyone in here have suggestions for a linux git gui?
[19:51] <goltoof> MrPicard:  o_0
[19:51] <goltoof> MrPicard:  with the command i gave?
[19:51] <winkwinknudge_nu> can someone give me a tip/hand on how to get my network and shutter icon to the left of all these > ? http://img2.imagebanana.com/img/mybrgtyo/Selection_001.png
[19:52] <nirazio> Which partitioning algorithms use ubuntu during the installation, is it also available as a standalone application or command? is it gparted?
[19:52] <goltoof> tittn:  it's okay to repeat once your last message is off the screen
[19:52] <MagicJ> the log on screen offers me a list of most of the users - not all - how do I remove users from this list?
[19:52] <tittn> i need help reconfiguring my micropone on laptop it seems to have disapeard in latest ubuntu after plugging in usb headset
[19:53] <CarlFK> robbie_tzr: dns is kinda a pain, but you might find it fun - no clue how much it will really help.  dhcp... I was fine my wifi AP, until I needed to do pxe booting which the APs dhcp does't support.
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> robbie_tzr: always fun to tinker, if you install dnsmasq on the laptop it can speed up the web
[19:53] <itaylor57> w_wilkins: giggle or gitg
[19:53] <CarlFK> goltoof: "off the screen" is like every 30 seconds, a bit too soon
[19:53] <robbie_tzr> thanks for the reply CarlFK and ActionParsnip - I really do appreciate your input/thoughts on these matters.
[19:54] <dave007> Hi all, I'm having a weird problem with ubuntu 10.10 after playing around with the abort() syscall, which caused my system to hard freeze. Now when I boot it "stalls" when loading the system (after booting the kernel), no error msg nothing, I can do ctrl-alt-sup to reboot however. This makes me think it might be udev related?? It doesn't load the gdm, just sits there. I booted with a rescue disk and ran fsck.ext4 but nothing in the fs was wrong. could anyon
[19:54] <dave007> e give me some tips that could help me debug this?
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> robbie_tzr: also change your browser cache location to /tmp  saves more wear on the drive
[19:54] <goltoof> CarlFK:  not always 30 seconds.. and it also depends on how big your screen is   :P
[19:54] <MrPicard> Thanks :D
[19:54] <nirazio> Which partitioning algorithms use ubuntu during the installation, is it also available as a standalone application or command? is it gparted?
[19:54] <robbie_tzr> ActionParsnip - is this an option in Firefox?
[19:54] <goltoof> MrPicard:  npr.. enjoy your server
[19:55] <MrPicard> Thanks!!! :))
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> robbie_tzr: not sure, possibly in about:firefox    I ditched firefox ages ago
[19:55] <anygivenname> a system update has messed up my Logwatch....what do I do ?
[19:55] <will777> Anyone have experience mounting and decrypting (slaving) an encrypted (with alternative installer CD) system boot drive for data recovery?  Please message me...
[19:55] <robbie_tzr> ok ActionParsnip, thank you. Is there a way so save it to RAM instead of HDD?????
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> will777: why not use your backups for data recovery...
[19:55] <CarlFK> nirazio: google for devel/partman-auto-recipe.txt - if I had more I would give it
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> robbie_tzr: save what?
[19:56] <robbie_tzr> @ActionParsnip, browser cache
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> robbie_tzr: you'd have to websearch, i'm not knowledgable of firefox too much
[19:57] <nirazio> CarlFK: What's that??
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> robbie_tzr: if you can find how to change the cache folder, you can do it. /tmp is stored in a ram drive
[19:57] <cache_surplus> is that your drive will777 ? lol
[19:57] <evaluate> hello
[19:58] <robbie_tzr> ActionParsnip  - apologies if I am a bit slow on the uptake - are you saying that anything stored in /tmp is on a RAM drive?
[19:58] <CarlFK> nirazio: it is something related to your question.
[19:58] <evaluate> you might want to look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Application%20of%20Drying%20Machine , it seems like spam to me...
[19:59] <nirazio> CarlFK: I have read that but no information on wat i asked
[19:59]  * skraito say firefox hardening browser get it from http://yohanespatra.wordpress.com/2010/12/14/0x71-firefox-browser-hardening-cisecurity-benchmark-level-1/
[19:59] <itaylor57> skraito: dont spam
[19:59] <CarlFK> nirazio: url of what you read?
[20:00] <anygivenname> a system update has messed up my Logwatch....what do I do ?
[20:00] <robbie_tzr> ok, that is very interesting. Nothing in the Firefox options, but I will have a look at the "about:config" and do some searching on the web and delve a little deeper.
[20:00] <tittn> it does find my mircrophone in audacity but not in ubuntu main sound settings so it dont work for skype also ;(
[20:00] <nirazio> CarlFK: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/debian-installer/installer/doc/devel/partman-auto-recipe.txt
[20:01] <cache_surplus> robbie_tzr: whats your question? about ff
[20:01] <thomc> is there a command that will tell you whether a partition is physical or logical?
[20:02] <robbie_tzr> apologies cache_surplus, I was replying to ActionParsnip about the possiblity of storing FF cache on /tmp or RAM drive to improve responsiveness
[20:02] <raddad> How do I fix this:  W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com hardy/partner Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_hardy_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[20:02] <hplc> squid cache no longer in /var/squid/cache? (default location?)
[20:03] <cache_surplus> hmm
[20:03] <cache_surplus> will that work?
[20:03] <CarlFK> nirazio: right file - look at other links, find what reads that file
[20:03] <will777> Anyone have experience mounting and decrypting (slaving) an encrypted (with alternative installer CD) system boot drive for data recovery?  Please message me...
[20:03] <cache_surplus> maybe the firefox room can help with that
[20:03] <cache_surplus> or #linux
[20:04] <robbie_tzr> thank you cache_surplus, something for me to go away and look into further. Can I take the opportunity to thank the 4 replyers in the last 30 minutes to all my burning linux questions, you have all been very very helpfull
[20:04] <nirazio> CarlFK: I cant understand??
[20:06] <cache_surplus> the #linux room is much better at answer linux questions, here its only ubuntu
[20:06] <cache_surplus> go figure
[20:06] <Durando> lol cache_surplus
[20:06] <monkeybox> ubuntu
[20:07] <robbie_tzr> can I take it therefore, that a non-journaling FS is recommended on an SSD drive, such as that in my netbook?
[20:07] <CarlFK> nirazio: "Which partitioning algorithms use ubuntu during the installation, is it also available as a standalone application or command? is it gparted?"  that file can be used by the installer.  I don't know if it is standalone, I suspect it is.  I don't know if it is gparted.
[20:13] <OoO_Bax_OoO> !list
[20:13] <magn3ts> inf karma to anyone who can tell me the fastest way to count lines in a file that start with a given character
[20:14] <CarlFK> magn3ts: grep|wc
[20:14] <itaylor57> magn3ts: wc -l filename