[12:42] <saeed> hi all
[12:42] <saeed> anybody knows how to install codeblocks?
[12:42] <saeed> anybody here?
[12:42] <saeed> how about installing compiz-fusion?
[12:42] <saeed> I want to install compiz-fusion
[12:42] <Avatar-Heljara> Have you tried adept?
[12:43] <saeed> for compiz-fusion?
[12:43] <saeed> or for codeblocks?
[12:43] <Avatar-Heljara> for either
[12:43] <Avatar-Heljara> sudo apt-get install codeblocks
[12:43] <saeed> because I already tried codeblocks, but there's nothing there
[12:43] <saeed> codeblocks is not there
[12:44] <saeed> do I install compiz or compiz-fusion
[12:44] <saeed> I searched in adept
[12:45] <saeed> I found only compiz
[12:45] <saeed> no compiz-fusion
[12:45] <stdin> !compiz-fusion
[12:45] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:51] <tyrant91101> does anyone know what i should do when i get the error " /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" followed by repeating " ata1.01: exception emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen"
[12:52] <stdin> !ttyerror
[12:52] <ubotu> If you get an error on boot similar to  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off , you can try the fixes proposed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TTYError
[12:52] <tyrant91101> ok thank you
[12:59] <Silveira_Neto> Hi guys, anyone here knows how to play lbreakout in multiplayer mode? I have two machines with Linux here, and lbreakout2 installed, but none can connect in a game with the other
[01:03] <saeed> hi
[01:03] <bazhang> hi saeed
[01:03] <saeed> anybody knows how to access a windows partition?
[01:04] <bazhang> saeed:  you need something called ntfs-g
[01:04] <saeed> I just installed kubuntu
[01:04] <saeed> it shows my ntfs partition
[01:04] <saeed> but I can't access it
[01:05] <tyrant91101> hmm the TTY error page didnt help, i tried all of the recommended solutions, none helped
[01:05] <bazhang> !ntfs
[01:05] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:05] <tyrant91101> does it change anything if i sometimes get "Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 0"
[01:06] <iSir_Joshmus> im on xubuntu, is it possible to lock the screen?
[01:06] <iSir_Joshmus> cause im looking and i dont see the command
[01:06] <iSir_Joshmus> say you wanted to enter a command in the terminal
[01:07] <iSir_Joshmus> to lock screen, what would it be?
[01:11] <saeed> what is ntfs-g?
[01:11] <saeed> and how do i get it?
[01:11] <bazhang> ntfs-config - Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices
[01:12] <saeed> where do i get it?
[01:12] <bazhang> saeed: you can install it through either Adept (the gui package manager) or the commande line.
[01:13] <bazhang> command line
[01:14] <saeed> I found a package
[01:14] <saeed> using adept
[01:14] <fdoving> saeed: xscreensaver -lock maybe?
[01:14] <saeed> libntfs-gnomevfs
[01:14] <saeed> when I searched for ntfs-g
[01:14] <fdoving> saeed: err, wrong nick sorry.
[01:15] <saeed> bazhang: is that the package?
[01:15] <bazhang> saeed: that is for Ubuntu, I believe;
[01:15] <saeed> how about kubuntu?
[01:15] <saeed> what package should I install?
[01:16] <fdoving> isir_joshmus: 'xscreensaver-command -lock' maybe?
[01:16] <bazhang> !ntfs-3g
[01:16] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:24] <saeed> hi again
[01:24] <saeed> I just installeg ntfs-3g
[01:24] <bazhang> hi
[01:24] <saeed> but when I try to run it, nothing happens
[01:24] <saeed> anyone knows what's happening?
[01:25] <bazhang> saeed: you also need to install the ntfs-config package
[01:26] <saeed> I already installed it
[01:27] <bazhang> did you check each partition you want to access and click 'Apply'?
[01:27] <saeed> I didn't get anything when I tried to start ntfs-config
[01:28] <saeed> the application doesn't even start
[01:28] <bazhang> how did you start it?
[01:29] <saeed> kde menu -> system -> NTFS config tool
[01:29] <wohnzimmer> hi
[01:30] <bazhang> saeed: that's odd. It should launch.
[01:30] <saeed> how do I play flash apps in firefox?
[01:30] <bazhang> hi wohnzimmer
[01:30] <saeed> I am trying to watch some youtube stuff
[01:30] <saeed> but I can't
[01:31] <wohnzimmer> hi bazhang
[01:31] <bazhang> saeed: you need to install kde-restricted-extra
[01:31] <wohnzimmer> i cant  get no sleep
[01:31] <bazhang> extras
[01:31] <saeed> how so?
[01:31] <saeed> adept?
[01:31] <bazhang> do you have a question wohnzimmer?
[01:32] <bazhang> saeed: take a look if it's there.
[01:32] <wohnzimmer> do you know something about grub
[01:32] <bazhang> wohnzimmer: a little, I'll do my best. :}
[01:32] <pope22> hello
[01:33] <pope22> i'm trying to learn how to upgrade to kde 4, is anyone able to help me?
[01:33] <bazhang> !kde4
[01:33] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[01:34] <wohnzimmer> i have grub error when i start my system with  2 hardisk ,one is an usb one fix ,i get an error 21
[01:34] <wohnzimmer> when  i press the power button
[01:34] <melchor> alguien en espaol???
[01:34] <bazhang> !es
[01:34] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:34] <pope22> right....yes, i've read that post about kde 4. That's why i'm asking, i'm new to linux don't particulartly understand the instructions
[01:35] <bazhang> pope22: KDE4 has loads of potential, but that's it for now--I tried one of the KDE4 liveCDs (Suse), and nothing to see (for now).
[01:36] <helloyo> if i want to use flash and java should i install the 32bit version?
[01:36] <saeed> hi again
[01:36] <bazhang> wohnzimmer: error 21 means that the disk you're trying to access is not recognized as a valid disk
[01:37] <bazhang> helloyo: not sure about that..
[01:37] <helloyo> bazhang: ah ok, well for the RC i'll just get 32bit and save some hassles
[01:37] <wohnzimmer> ok but when i reboot the system load grub stage 1.5 , fine
[01:38] <bazhang> helloyo: probably a good choice for now.
[01:38] <saeed> is there another way to access ntfs partitions?
[01:39] <saeed> It's obvious that the ntfs-3g is NOT working
[01:39] <saeed> I installed everything twice
[01:39] <saeed> but it doesn't work
[01:39] <bazhang> saeed: that's the way I know of; again, I don't have a windows partition so I'm not the biggest help there.
[01:39] <saeed> thanks for trying
[01:39] <wohnzimmer> bazhang : i tried grub superdisk to chnage the masterboot record but nothing happend
[01:39] <radius> ntfs-fuse should work
[01:40] <bazhang> wohnzimmer: getting Vista/XP recognized in GRUB?
[01:40] <wohnzimmer> bazhang :yes everything works when i reboot
[01:40] <shinda> was wondering if anyone was familiar with eclipse, I get some strange behaviour when minimizing side panels such as project outline where the panel although minimzed continues to take up horizontal space
[01:42] <wohnzimmer> bazhang :i have winxp on the disk inside the notebook and on the usb drive ubuntu
[01:42] <bazhang> wohnzimmer: which did you install first?
[01:42] <wohnzimmer> the win xp
[01:43] <bazhang> wohnzimmer: does the BIOS look for the internal or the external drive first?
[01:45] <bazhang> wohnzimmer: I had the same trouble with Vista until I reset the BIOS
[01:45] <wohnzimmer> for the internal ,  i changed zu external but  i doesnt work
[01:45] <NixMan> just wondering..the "audio" tab in kcontrol, where you can select mp3 ripping, what does that effect? i set it to like 192kbps, and i tried ripping with k3b, and it wasn't that. any helps?
[01:46] <wohnzimmer> o.k i open this book and reset the bios
[01:46] <wohnzimmer> bazhang :thanx
[01:46] <bazhang> wohnzimmer: I can PM you a url that lays out how to do it if you wish..
[01:47] <wohnzimmer> what does pm mean ????#
[01:48] <bazhang> Private Message
[01:48] <wohnzimmer> sorry , im noob
[01:49] <bazhang> don't want to flood the channel--I click on your name, and then privately give you the website that tells how to do it
[01:50] <voidus> firefox seem to ignore my look & feel settings
[01:50] <voidus> is it common problem?
[01:50] <wohnzimmer> my english is too bad so for me its hard to follow quick
[01:51] <bazhang> ok if I PM you?
[01:51] <stdin> !de
[01:51] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:51] <wohnzimmer> bazhang:ok
[01:52] <NixMan> just wondering..the "audio" tab in kcontrol, where you can select mp3 ripping, what does that effect? i set it to like 192kbps, and i tried ripping with k3b, and it wasn't that. any helps?
[01:53] <bazhang> wohnzimmer: have Private Messaged you the url, look for the channel with your name (or mine?) on it.
[01:53] <bazhang> probably mine.
[01:53] <pope22> is plasma integrated into kde 4? i'm worried it may eat up  my cpu...
[01:56] <D_Ed> pope22: yes it is. and why do you think it will do that?
[01:59] <geekgirl> hello
[01:59] <bazhang> hi geekgirl
[01:59] <geekgirl> hi bazhang
[02:00] <geekgirl> i'm new here
[02:00] <bazhang> geekgirl: do you have a question?
[02:02] <ardchoille> !sound
[02:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:19] <franz__> [kopete]  how can i enable my sounds? I tried the 'play' button in Settings > Configure Notifications but i don't hear a thing...any ideas?
[02:28] <voidus> !sound
[02:28] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:31] <franz__> voidus, thanks..but my sound is working perfectly...it's just that kopete won't play any. and after googling for awhile, i can see a lot of people having the same issue...and no one really knows how to fix this...that's why im trying my luck here :)
[02:31] <voidus> ah..
[02:32] <franz__> i googled for "sound kopete" ( without the quotes....and mostly, i see bug reports and complaints :) )
[02:34] <voidus> franz__: do you use firefox? and if so, do firefox respect your font settings?
[02:34] <franz__> voidus, i do...as for the font settings...never really tried changing them...let me check
[02:37] <franz__> voidus, i tried changing my fonts from the System Settings but firefox seems to be immune to it :)
[02:37] <dbglt> are there any known kubuntu-gusty related updated problems I should look out for?
[02:37] <voidus> dbglt: /join #ubuntu+1
[02:38] <dbglt> voidus: I'm there. But that's not for kubuntu
[02:38] <voidus> hm..
[02:38] <dbglt> voidus: I assume the knowledge here will be greater
[02:38] <voidus> maybe
[02:38] <bazhang> dbglt: sure it is! :}
[02:40] <lontra> franz__: it's cause firefox is GTK ... you need to changet that font
[03:06] <quixogre> evening all
[03:07] <bazhang> hi
[03:10] <CapitalT> Hi, I'm not sure if this is a bug or not; but having a terminal between sessions is annoying (ctrl+alt+F7=session1, ctrl+alt+F8=terminal, ctrl+alt+F9=session2)
[03:10] <CapitalT> should I report this?
[03:10] <CapitalT> especially since the terminal is just the output of the bootup sequence
[03:11] <crimsun> it's intentional
[03:12] <CapitalT> but, the terminal is useless. I don't see any valuable debug information there. Did I miss something?
[03:14] <franz_> voidus: i've now 'fixed' my kopete sounds. i just configured kopete to use mplayer to play a file for the notification
[03:14] <DaSkreech> I have a disagreement between the superblock and the backup
[03:14] <DaSkreech> how could I check which is valid?
[03:20] <lukas__> hello
[03:22] <quixogre> anyone familiar with CUPS?
[03:22] <lukas__> what is CUPS? , I am new in linux
[03:23] <quixogre> trying to add a networked printer, and its not working...the printer flashes, but noting prints out
[03:23] <quixogre> !cups
[03:23] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:24] <lukas__> hmm
[03:26] <lukas__> good to know
[03:30] <DaSkreech> !inf otestdisk
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inf otestdisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <DaSkreech> !info testdisk
[03:30] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[03:31] <dick-richardson> I have a turtle beach santa cruz sound card and no sound...drivers look right. what can I check?
[03:31] <DaSkreech> !sound
[03:31] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:34] <dick-richardson> sound system is enabled, I get sliders to move in the mixer...but no sound
[03:34] <canen> hello
[03:35] <canen> anyone having trouble with flash + konqueror?
[03:36] <phoenixz> anybody here who could help with setting up a vpn?? Im using kvpnc but I get the error "only freeswan version 1.x is supported "
[03:36] <phoenixz> this error means tat kvpnc only supports openswan1.x or the server??
[03:37] <DaSkreech> canen: Which flash are you using?
[03:38] <canen> DaSkreech: i just noticed the channel message and since i'm running gutsy i'm going over to #ubuntu+1
[03:38] <canen> non-free by the way
[03:38] <DaSkreech> canen: No I meant which version
[03:38] <DaSkreech> The new flash plugins freeze konqueror unless you update it
[03:38] <canen> 9 i think , let me check
[03:38] <DaSkreech> But good call #ubuntu+1
[03:40] <canen> DaSkreech: <IP_ADDRESS>.2+really0ubuntu12
[03:40] <canen> but it has never worked for me, regardless of the version
[03:40] <dick-richardson> ok, so I'm really not interesting is pissing with this sound card. any good suggestions for an external that works out of the box?
[03:41] <DaSkreech> canen: Yeah hit up #ubuntu+1
[03:42] <canen> DaSkreech: thanks
[03:42] <quixogre> how many here are on gutsy? im noticing i got lots of updates available, but assuming thats a patch for gutsy yes?
[03:42] <quixogre> im afraid to switch to gutsy because of all the problems i saw before it left beta
[03:43] <quixogre> btw. fixed my printer problem...switched to a different driver, and it works like a dream now
[03:44] <canen> quixogre: unless you do an explicit update gutsy will not be install
[03:44] <quixogre> canen good ta know. thanks
[03:44] <canen> if your sources still point to fiesty the updates are fiesty
[03:44] <dick-richardson> no suggestions on an external sound card?
[03:49] <mrksbrd> genii u here?
[03:49] <level1> I can't figure out if radeon or ati are different drivers... whats the deal there?
[03:50] <mrksbrd> radeon & ati are the same thing
[03:50] <level1> mrksbrd: are you sure?  someone in winehq said otherwise
[03:51] <mrksbrd> ati is the board manufacturer, radeon is the model....just like a "ford taurus"
[03:51] <genii> back
[03:51] <level1> mrksbrd: okay, I find this really annoying
[03:51] <genii> Sorry for lag, assisting in #ubuntu
[03:51] <level1> mrksbrd: I'm referring to ati "the driver" and radeon "the driver"
[03:52] <mrksbrd> genii need your help bro
[03:52] <mrksbrd> !!
[03:52] <level1> I don't understand why they named them after the companies
[03:52] <genii> mrksbrd: Well, state the problem and I'll assist if I know how :) Someone else may know too
[03:53] <mrksbrd> remember the usbhdd drive issue u helped me with b4....having the same prob again....drive won't mount
[03:53] <mrksbrd> looked the the fstab that looks goo but getting an error, std cant mount drive
[03:54] <DaSkreech> quixogre: Then dont
[03:54] <DaSkreech> mrksbrd: unless you mean the driver
[03:55] <DaSkreech> mrksbrd: those are different
[03:55] <genii> mrksbrd: Ah, I remember a bit now about that. Tho the details escape me. Did you eventually use UUID in the fstab instead of something like /dev/sdb2  or so? the usb storage gets reassigned depending on what gets plugged in first, so sdb may be sdc another time, yet the UUID will always be the same
[03:56] <mrksbrd> fdisk -l stated /dev/sdb1
[03:56] <DaSkreech> !dvd
[03:56] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:57] <genii> mrksbrd: OK. Please pastebin your fstab and I will take a look. But be warned I am getting exhausted today and not at top of my game
[03:57] <genii> (18 hour day)
[03:58] <mrksbrd> ok, give me a sec
[03:58] <mrksbrd> ouch!!!!
[03:59] <mrksbrd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40483/
[04:02] <genii> OK reading. pls excuse lag
[04:02] <mrksbrd> k
[04:02] <mrksbrd> want the error I get as well?
[04:03] <genii> mrksbrd: No need :)
[04:03] <mrksbrd> k
[04:03] <genii> DaSkreech: I'll likely need it later when the coffee wears off :)
[04:04] <DaSkreech> uerk coffee
[04:04] <genii> mrksbrd: We need to make an entry in the same way you see the UUID entry for / as an example. But for sdb1 in this case. But at the moment it may not actually be named sdb1 anymore
[04:05] <genii> mrksbrd: Thanks :) <takes a sip>
[04:05] <ubuntu> cool
[04:05] <mrksbrd> how do i figure that out
[04:05] <genii> mrksbrd: So we have to: discover which actual /dev it is if not sdb1 anymore       then: get the uuid by issuing: blkid      then: put the proper UUID in the fstab
[04:06] <mrksbrd> ok
[04:06] <genii> mrksbrd: Do you know what size it is supposed to be?
[04:06] <mrksbrd> dev/sdb1: UUID="55D123D9E79ABF54" TYPE="ntfs"
[04:07] <mrksbrd> the drive?
[04:07] <genii> mrksbrd: OK. I will make a new fstab for you. 1 minute please
[04:07] <mrksbrd> k
[04:08] <kat> #quit
[04:08] <kat> doh
[04:09] <hellhound> has anyone ever tried following the steps in Synce Wiki to sync a PDA?
[04:10] <genii> mrksbrd: Hmm. Did you have ntfs-3g installed? I forget. Someone recently only needed top read not write ntfs
[04:10] <hellhound> I am having trouble with the synce-gnome and running python test.py
[04:10] <mrksbrd> i believe it is, is there a way to twll?
[04:11] <myo> hi all just installed KDE desktop and having problems installing themes.  I was following the directions here: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDM+Theme+Manager?content=22120 to install the theme manager but when I run ./configure  I see checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[04:11] <myo> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[04:11] <myo> .  I am a relative linux noob here so the more specific the better
[04:11] <genii> mrksbrd: Offhand i forget. but it looks like somehow the options for that drive went to "auto" and some sort of defaults instead of ntfs or similar. I will assume no ntfs-3g for now
[04:12] <mrksbrd> k
[04:13] <genii> mrksbrd: Bah. Having probs with pastebin. so, comment out line for sdb1, then below add this line: UUID=55D123D9E79ABF54 	/media/usbhdd	ntfs	defaults,user,auto	0 0
[04:13] <hellhound> how do I turn off the firewall in kubuntu?
[04:13] <genii> Whoa wait
[04:14] <genii> Weird. Spaces got lost in copy/paste
[04:14] <genii> Ah, tabs rather..1 minute
[04:14] <genii> UUID=55D123D9E79ABF54 /media/usbhdd ntfs defaults,user,auto 0 0
[04:15] <DaSkreech> !themes
[04:15] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:15] <DaSkreech> !firewall
[04:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:17] <mrksbrd> enii tels me i'm "not privledged to mount this drive"
[04:18] <genii> mrksbrd: Ah, OK. But is seeing it now, yes?
[04:18] <hellhound> ubotu: so i need to install guarddog to disable the firewall?
[04:18] <mrksbrd> nope no icon either
[04:19] <mrksbrd> want me to repaste
[04:19] <genii> mrksbrd: What I meant is that to get the "not priveledged to mount" error, it must be seeing that the drive exists and is trying to do something (however unsuccessfully)
[04:19] <mrksbrd> correct
[04:20] <genii> mrksbrd: OK. We will see if ntfs-3g is around. try to run: sudo ntfs-config       at commandline
[04:21] <mrksbrd> :command not found
[04:21] <genii> OK not installed
[04:21] <genii> mrksbrd: Change user to plural,  users    but otherwise all the same, and try again with what we have there
[04:21] <mrksbrd> is there a file out there that isn't tar'd....I hate those things
[04:22] <mrksbrd> k
[04:22] <mrksbrd> both lines or just the uuid line?
[04:23] <genii> just the uuid line. the other one should be commented out with a #
[04:23] <genii> (the old sdb1 line)
[04:23] <mrksbrd> right ok
[04:24] <mrksbrd> same error
[04:24] <genii> bah
[04:24] <genii> OK, time to go the ntfs-3g way I guess. I don't know all the little ntfs mounting switches/options so this is easiest
[04:26] <flake> for some reason, xmms isn't controlling my audio volume, having to do it from the speaker on my desk
[04:26] <genii> mrksbrd: install packages: ntfs-3g ntfs-config ntfsprogs          after this, run the program ntfs-config   as before, with sudo
[04:27] <n8k99> whew!
[04:28] <genii> mrksbrd: After this I must leave and sleep :)
[04:28] <mrksbrd> ok no prob
[04:29] <genii> mrksbrd: Oh...before running ntfs-config   comment out the UUID line as well
[04:29] <mrksbrd> k
[04:29] <mrksbrd> ok installed
[04:30] <genii> I will stay long enough to at least see the results, good or bad
[04:30] <mrksbrd> run config now?
[04:30] <genii> mrksbrd: yes.    sudo ntfs-config
[04:30] <mrksbrd> ok done
[04:31] <genii> mrksbrd: Did it say anything informative?
[04:31] <mrksbrd> just an opton to check off to write to external drives
[04:31] <genii> OK. See if it made some fstab entry please
[04:32] <genii> mrksbrd: If not, we will uncomment and modify the UUID line once more
[04:32] <ubuntu> hoz ;uch spqce i need to instqll linux
[04:33] <genii> ubuntu: 4Gb or more is good. and a decent swap space of perhaps the size of your RAM
[04:33] <ubuntu__> Lilitha from kubunto reporting
[04:34] <genii> !hi | ubuntu__
[04:34] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:35] <flake> ok, i guess xmms is an older program
[04:35] <mrksbrd> ok it said alot.....
[04:35] <underdog5004> flake, xmms is the best music player ever, imho
[04:36] <flake> can't control volume
[04:36] <mrksbrd> the temp fstab is longer than the overwritten one though
[04:36] <flake> vlc doesth
[04:36] <underdog5004> flake, yeah, you can...there's a volume bar available
[04:36] <underdog5004> genii, how long have you been awake?
[04:36] <flake> it doesn't do anything to my volume underdog, have to adjust speaker volume manually, on desk
[04:37] <underdog5004> flake, bummer
[04:37] <genii> underdog5004: Something like 20 hours
[04:37] <ubuntu> genii: i just install xp and saprat my 160 in 3 now i; going to install linux but it only see 1 hdd not the 3
[04:37] <flake> i have onboard audio + pci audio card, think that's why
[04:37] <underdog5004> genii, I haven't slept longer than 30 minutes in the last 30 hours...I feel fine
[04:37] <mrksbrd> i'll let you go genni we'll just work on it some other time....i know how it is to be up for 18+hrs
[04:37] <myo> can anyone tell me what I need to install for this error: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[04:37] <genii> underdog5004: Maybe I'll start that sleep rotation thingy but not this week :)
[04:37] <underdog5004> polyphasic sleep for the win!
[04:37] <underdog5004> ha ha
[04:38] <flake> waitin for gutsy stable is almost as bad as waitin for qw:et
[04:38] <underdog5004> lemme find that site...
[04:38] <flake> like xmas
[04:38] <genii> mrksbrd: OK thanks. I'll be on tomorrow if yer around
[04:38] <mrksbrd> ok about this time??
[04:38] <underdog5004> http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/10/polyphasic-sleep/
[04:38] <genii> Yes, if not 6 hours or so earlier. Tho i will be watching hockey as well
[04:39] <mrksbrd> k
[04:39] <genii> underdog5004: Bookmarked
[04:39] <underdog5004> might be useful, esp if you can take 30 minutes whenever you want...
[04:39] <genii> Bye all. thanks for pillow DaSkreech
[04:39] <mrksbrd> i'll just pmsg u and respond when your ready
[04:39] <ubuntu> genii: i just install xp and sepqrat my 160 in 3 now i; going to install linux but it only see 1 hdd not the 3
[04:40] <ubuntu> genii: why/
[04:40] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: can You explain what you are seeing?
[04:42] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: im on prepare disk space.
[04:42] <DaSkreech> Right
[04:42] <DaSkreech> why do you say it only sees one drive
[04:42] <myo> can anyone tell me how to install qt?   I have tried sudo apt-get install  with qt qt3 libqt and libqt3
[04:43] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i see only 1 partation to instaal linux alldo i ;ade 3 parts zhen i install xp
[04:43] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: so in  XP you had three drives?
[04:43] <DaSkreech> or three partitions rather ?
[04:43] <ubuntu> this language keyboard is killing me
[04:44] <DaSkreech> Change it to something you know
[04:44] <DaSkreech> What language do you want?
[04:44] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: its a 160 sepqrate in 3
[04:44] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i did change it but it stay the same
[04:47] <DaSkreech> ok The installer sees only one 160 GB drive?
[04:47] <DaSkreech> with no partitions?
[04:47] <ubuntu> DaSkreech:yes
[04:47] <DaSkreech> How much space is free?
[04:47] <ubuntu> the partition are for;ated in ntfs nor;aly
[04:48] <DaSkreech> Yes
[04:48] <DaSkreech> The installer can resize NTFS partitions safely
[04:49] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: resize,but witch side it will take it from
[04:49] <ubuntu> my xp
[04:50] <DaSkreech> The end part
[04:51] <ubuntu> wa option do i hqve to choose
[04:52] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: thers a thing that move left right to choose size
[04:52] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Right choose what size you want it to be
[04:53] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: if i choose 10percent it will not erace my  xp
[04:55] <ubuntu> otakuuu powaaaa
[04:55] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: muchi muchi u there
[04:56] <nosrednaekim> lol... ubuntu+1 has almost as many people as this channel :)
[04:57] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: how much space do you have free?
[04:58] <neofax> Hello everyone!
[04:58] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: dont no its a 160 i just finish installing xp noz im trying to install linux on the sa;e hdd
[04:58] <neofax> Is anyone here using a ICE1724 card with SPDIF out?
[04:59] <neofax> I cannot get it to work.
[04:59] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: im going fazord
[04:59] <ubuntu> w
[05:01] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: How long ago did you install XP?
[05:02] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: when i pres next it crash and 3 windoz show up which is the 3 hdd i made
[05:02] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: The installer cashes?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Is this the 7.04 or 7.10 installer?
[05:03] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: not exactly it just aborted the the 3 hdd put up like zindows
[05:04] <ubuntu> is the 7.10 out yet
[05:04] <ubuntu> i; 7.04
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Well at least you know you have your partitions :-)
[05:04] <medivh> Would anyone mind helping me with a probably noobish question about the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg dialogue?
[05:04] <DaSkreech> medivh: shoot
[05:04] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: can you open konsole and type mount
[05:05] <DaSkreech> copy the output to pastebin for me
[05:05] <DaSkreech> !paste | ubuntu
[05:05] <ubotu> ubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:05] <medivh> DaSkreech, Hi, thanks. I've been able to go through it just fine up until it asked me for my "Video Card Bus Identifier"
[05:05] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: yeah but zhen linuh have to choose here to install it only see 1
[05:05] <ubuntu> not 3
[05:05] <DaSkreech> medivh: The defaults are usually good
[05:05] <medivh> DarkSkreechI googled, and found I can find the bus with lspci, but...there are many different nVidia entries.
[05:06] <DaSkreech> ubuntu:
[05:06] <ubuntu> ah  now it just crach on me
[05:06] <medivh> DaSkreech* excuse me.
[05:06] <DaSkreech> better pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[05:06] <DaSkreech> medivh: sure
[05:06] <medivh> DaSkreech, well the default is PCI:1:0:0 is that, ok?
[05:06] <DaSkreech> medivh: yes
[05:07] <medivh> DaSkreech, alright, thank you :) Would you mind if I bothered you again if I encountered anything else I didn't quite understand?
[05:08] <n8k99> medivh: DaSkreech lives for that stuff!
[05:09] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m21566490
[05:09] <DaSkreech> medivh: Sure
[05:10] <DaSkreech> medivh: I guess you are changing your resolution?
[05:10] <medivh> DaSkreech, you're quite correct. I recently got a widescreen monitor and this seemed the easiest way? Perhaps I was wrong :S
[05:11] <DaSkreech> medivh: No in that case you can ignore everything till you get to the resolution section
[05:11] <DaSkreech> If that's the only thing you are going to change everything else should be correct already
[05:11] <medivh> DaSkreech, ah, here's a question is there any way to go back? :P I think I might have just accidentally moved past the resolution selection, which is exactly what I wanted >.<
[05:11] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: You have them all formatted already
[05:12] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: yes
[05:12] <DaSkreech> medivh: hold down enter till you reach the end? :-)
[05:13] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: WEll /dev/sda6 seems to have well enough space for your install needs
[05:13] <medivh> DaSkreech, I figured as much hehe, I'll just redo it and you say I can just skip everything until I get to the monitor resolutions if that's what I need?
[05:14] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i know i have enoght it just that it only seing my hdd like it was never separated
[05:15] <DaSkreech> medivh: yes if everything else already works no need to worry about it
[05:15] <Smurf-Slayer> Anyone know if there is a fix yet for when this works fine, but FireFox doesn't work?  Also, now my Adept Pkg Mgr doesn't work, or GAIM.  Had a power failure today, and the UPS couldn't hold it all long enough?  Could that be causing this problem?  Firefox and everything worked fine last night.
[05:16] <ubuntu> Smurf-Slayer: where they installing when u get the power out
[05:17] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: ok let me know when you get there and I'll see if I can help you out
[05:17] <medivh> DaSkreech, so I'm at the list of monitor resulotions, how would one add an asterisk next to a resolution for use?
[05:18] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: for the longest of hile its scanning to detect every hdd it4s being 6mins now
[05:18] <DaSkreech> medivh: space
[05:18] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Erk that doesn't sound right at all
[05:19] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: cancel
[05:20] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: When did you burn this CD?
[05:20] <ubuntu> rerun
[05:20] <gryphon> which is better kubuntu, ubuntu, or fedora?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: can you do a CD test on it
[05:20] <DaSkreech> It's on the boot menu
[05:21] <DaSkreech> gryphon: the one you like best
[05:21] <medivh> gryphon, as my understanding goes, Kubuntu and Ubuntu are personal preference, as it's just Gnome and KDE
[05:21] <medivh> Fedora I have never used, so I can't help you on that one :(
[05:22] <Smurf-Slayer> Ubuntu - No, this installation is a couple of months old...
[05:22] <medivh> DaSkreech, Ah thanks a lot. So would I need to restart the computer for all of this to take effect? For the life of me I can't rememeber the key combination that is used to...restart the x server I believe? or...Do you know what I'm talking about? lol
[05:22] <DaSkreech> medivh: restart? never speak such blasphemy!
[05:22] <ubuntu> i buy it in a magazine it allredy install it on my pc now im install it on a ftriend own but he only got 1 hdd so im afraind to kill the xp part then ill have to start all over again
[05:23] <DaSkreech> medivh: If you want a dirty restart it's Alt+Ctrl+BkSPc a clean restart just involves logging out and back in
[05:23] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: You have it partitioned already. Why did you make the two partitions that big? :)
[05:23] <medivh> DaSkreech, Ah, well I prefer cleanliness so I'll take the logging route, pardon me for a few seconds ;)
[05:24] <medivh> I just want to install all my updates first :)
[05:24] <DaSkreech> medivh: Dirty just means things don't have an option to let you save. So you lose any unsaved data
[05:24] <DaSkreech> medivh: it doesn't hurt anything
[05:24] <DaSkreech> medivh: Go right ahead :)
[05:25] <Smurf-Slayer> Ubuntu - No, this installation is a couple of months old...
[05:25] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: the bigest 1 if for data storage in cast xp have to reinstall the smaller 1 zas for 7.04
[05:25] <DaSkreech> ok
[05:25] <medivh> DaSkreech, ah ok hehe well thanks for that, I had no idea there was a difference, I though the key combination actually just logged you out regularly and did something...else hehe.
[05:25] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Linux generally uses two partitions so you will cut that one again
[05:26] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i know
[05:26] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: but you should be ok
[05:26] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i allready install it on my pc
[05:26] <DaSkreech> medivh: Nope it's the Xserver equivalnet of hitting the power button. Things don't get much chance to respond and interrupt but they will all be shut down ok
[05:26] <NightBird> when playing with the live cd, how can I try to see how well kubuntu detects the hard drives?
[05:27] <DaSkreech> NightBird: System settings -> advanced -> disk and filesystmes
[05:27] <NightBird> thanks
[05:27] <ubuntu> mmm fast
[05:30] <medivh> If I may offer up to anyone who's paying attention, I'm looking for some opinions on a browser, (I just reformatted, and as such this is new Kubuntu [yay \o/]  and I tend to change things up and try new software) I am rather torn between Firefox and Opera, anyone use either, or both, or...Neither?
[05:31] <DaSkreech> firefox -> Awesome extensions and experience, Most bloated bit of code to render websites in a long while
[05:32] <DaSkreech> opera -> nice lean mean, very funky and does things it's own way, not free software
[05:33] <medivh> It's not free? I'd used both of them and was under the impression Opera didn't cost anything, or...I got lucky?
[05:33] <Smurf-Slayer> Anyone know if there is a fix yet for when this works fine, but FireFox doesn't work?  Also, now my Adept Pkg Mgr doesn't work, or GAIM.  Had a power failure today, and the UPS couldn't hold it all long enough?  Could that be causing this problem?  Firefox and everything worked fine last night.
[05:34] <DaSkreech> medivh: not free as in beer
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Smurf-Slayer: run firefox from the command line
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Firefox &
[05:35] <DaSkreech> small f
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Just to test
[05:36] <medivh> DaSkreech, Ah I see what you mean now hehe
[05:38] <lee__> waht the
[05:38] <Smurf-Slayer> S
[05:39] <Smurf-Slayer> DaSkreech - It starts, but won't load any page, the same...
[05:39] <DaSkreech> Smurf-Slayer: Hmm
[05:39] <DaSkreech> run a fsck I guess
[05:42] <medivh> DaSkreech, oh, I just noticed something quite...Amazing. I can fully access my Windows hard drive (I have two internal hard drives, a Windows IDE and a Linux SATA) is it actually possible to run things, on linux, from that drive? With something like Wine of course?
[05:44] <Smurf-Slayer> It won't let me, says it may cause severe file damage
[05:45] <DaSkreech> Smurf-Slayer: Oh my do you have a live CD?
[05:45] <DaSkreech> medivh: in theory yes
[05:45] <j1solutions> hello
[05:45] <DaSkreech> !hi
[05:45] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:46] <j1solutions> hey does anyone know when 7.10 will be released as Kubuntu?
[05:46] <DaSkreech> 7 days
[05:46] <j1solutions> so its a day later than Ubunut?
[05:46] <j1solutions> or the same day
[05:48] <j1solutions> hello
[05:49] <Bootman> Morning!
[05:49] <j1solutions> if i install 7.10 RC1 today, can I 'upgrade' when 7.10 is released?
[05:49] <j1solutions> or might that be a bad idea
[05:50] <benny_> j1solutions: I second that question...
[05:50] <Bootman> can someone help me to find where logs file are: when I tryed to lunch Allegro (Cadence) in Kubuntu, system answers "core dumped"...
[05:51] <Bootman> I just want to fugure out,what is wrong..
[05:51] <Smurf-Slayer> No
[05:51] <benny_> Cadence?
[05:52] <Medivh> O_o
[05:52] <Bootman> Boys, aren't here any profy of Kubuntu over here? Yes, Cadence it is EDA program
[05:52] <DaSkreech> same day
[05:52] <benny_> for silicon?
[05:53] <DaSkreech> j1solutions: You can upgrade
[05:53] <Bootman> for PCB design
[05:53] <benny_> Bootman: I didn't know Cadence ran on linux..
[05:53] <DaSkreech> Bootman: /var/log
[05:53] <benny_> Bootman: we use AIX>
[05:53] <Bootman> I am still not sure myself
[05:53] <DaSkreech> Bootman: If it's a good linux program :)
[05:53] <Bootman> but It work in Mandriva
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Bootman: other wise it might put it in a hidden folder in your home directory
[05:54] <benny_> DaSkreech: evedently hasn't used Cadence..
[05:54] <Bootman> but I like Kubuntu, and would like to install it, anyway
[05:54] <benny_> :)
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Otherwise it will be in the same folder as the app
[05:54] <DaSkreech> nope
[05:54] <DaSkreech>  never even heard of it
[05:54] <j1solutions> thanks DaSkreech
[05:54] <benny_> it's a pile of crap, but it's what we all have to use.
[05:55] <Bootman> ok, thanks for advising.. will try
[05:55] <benny_> DaSkreech: good to see you again.. although this thingy isn't nearly as fun sober.
[05:56] <DaSkreech> benny_: All good things aren't
[05:56] <dick-richardson> turtle beach santa cruz...anyone got one working?
[05:56] <j1solutions> i cant imagine why anyone would choose gnome over kde
[05:56] <DaSkreech> dick-richardson: did you run through !sound ?
[05:56] <dick-richardson> yeah
[05:57] <dick-richardson> great tips...still nothing
[05:57] <DaSkreech> j1solutions: Many people can't imagine why someone would choose windows over linux but there you go
[05:57] <DaSkreech> !hardware
[05:57] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:57] <DaSkreech> Don't know if that will shed some light
[05:57] <dick-richardson> if it doesn't, maybe it can at least point me toward a good sound card that works well
[05:58] <dick-richardson> thank you :)
[05:58] <j1solutions> anyone here work with asterisk?
[05:59] <DaSkreech> *
[05:59] <DaSkreech> there you go :)
[05:59] <benny_> very funny
[05:59] <j1solutions> no, thats his name  Aster Isk
[06:00] <DaSkreech> No only obeli sk
[06:00] <j1solutions> good one DaSkreech
[06:00] <DaSkreech> and 6 people got it :)
[06:01] <j1solutions> I've got an S Colon and a Q Mark in my addressbook
[06:01] <benny_> wish I actually kept an addressbook.
[06:02] <DaSkreech> E point
[06:02] <j1solutions> D Leet
[06:02] <j1solutions> benny, you only need one if you have friends
[06:02] <benny_> ouch.. harsh dude..
[06:03] <j1solutions> yeah
[06:03] <benny_> you'll get that way spending too much time Cadence.
[06:03] <benny_> with
[06:05] <j1solutions> <---runs and LDAP server with 3 entries, Mom, Boss and Landlord
[06:06] <benny_> good 'ol mom.
[06:06] <q_a_z_steve> trying to mount VISTA in dapper. I get error: device /dev/hdb5 is not removable error: could not execute pmount... help?
[06:06] <j1solutions> yep.  wouldn't want to lose her number
[06:07] <benny_> my mom tattooed it on my ass.
[06:07] <j1solutions> wow, what if she changes phone companies?
[06:07] <benny_> doesn't vista still use ntfs?
[06:07] <q_a_z_steve> yes
[06:07] <q_a_z_steve> shows as HPFS/NTFS
[06:08] <j1solutions> fiesty mounted my vista ntfs partitions ok (read only)
[06:08] <benny_> I haven't been brave enough to dual boot my vista machine yet.. how'd it go? besides the mount problem..
[06:10] <j1solutions> benny, how you like vista?
[06:12] <benny_> eh.. to be honest if you want flash-bang bells and wistles compiz-fusion and os/x top it..  but gotta have it for stupid programs that don't play nice on linux.
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[06:12] <DaSkreech> too bad we don't have stupid programs on linux
[06:12] <DaSkreech> :-(
[06:12] <benny_> and for the wify..  she refuses to use linux.
[06:13] <j1solutions> yeah, i tolerate XP, but I've tried to run Vista for 6 months now,  nfw-  i'm wiping it and doing a fresh install of kubuntu 7.10
[06:13] <q_a_z_steve> benny_: triple boot, XP Vista, and dapper
[06:13] <j1solutions> nice benny
[06:14] <benny_> I've heard if you're a gamer you should keep XP...
[06:14] <j1solutions> vista runs slow as shit, thats probably why
[06:14] <q_a_z_steve> XP is probably the best M$ ever did
[06:14] <j1solutions> agreed steve
[06:14] <j1solutions> i'd trade my vista licence for xp if i could
[06:14] <stdin> keep on topic :)
[06:15] <DaSkreech> !ohmy
[06:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:15] <benny_> you mean after SP2.. cause it was like walking around with your pants around you ankles for a while there.
[06:15] <j1solutions> oops
[06:15] <j1solutions> yes, after sp2
[06:15] <j1solutions> but i'm going all linux, except my laptop
[06:16] <j1solutions> only because i ve got some automotive scanner software i need to run on it
[06:16] <benny_> ohhh man. that was one of my worst linux installs ever.. on my laptop about 3 years ago..
[06:16] <benny_> probably better now tho.
[06:16] <j1solutions> i had about 4 distros on this laptop in the last few months before i wnet back to xp
[06:16] <benny_> but I've never tried again after that.
[06:17] <j1solutions> all worked well, wireless and all.   you can do it now, believe me
[06:17] <j1solutions> its a lot easier
[06:19] <j1solutions> probably a lot to do with the hardware. this is a thinkpad and it was easy
[06:20] <jesus_> hay alguien alli?
[06:25] <j1solutions> benny, have you heard about the new offshoot of ubuntu?
[06:25] <j1solutions> it runs on a sneaker
[06:25] <j1solutions> its called shubuntu
[06:26] <j1solutions> ok i'm leaving. sorry
[06:26] <j1solutions> thanks for everyones help
[06:27] <Medivh> DaSkreech, are you still hre?
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Medivh: No
[06:27] <Medivh> DaSkreech, ah :P Hello again :) Something...unexpected has happened.
[06:27] <DaSkreech> !es | jesus_
[06:27] <ubotu> jesus_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:28] <DaSkreech> Medivh: India has changed it's name to OutNoches?
[06:28] <Medivh> DaSkreech *lol* Not quite as drastic as that.
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Canada has a stronger currency than the US?
[06:30] <Medivh> DaSkreech, but...upon the completion of my updates, I was simply modifying the settings to my personal flavour (My screensaver to be exact.) and...Well...This is where there would be cartoonish "Ka Boom" sounds. Black screen, and all I was left with was a white terminal cursor, blinking, endlessly.
[06:30] <Medivh> To which there was no escape from, than to hit my reboot button.
[06:30] <Medivh> I'm using the CD as a LiveCD at the moment, as my installtion is apparently...Unusable?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Medivh: you can't login?
[06:31] <Medivh> Have you ever heard of such a thing...Or...Should I just wipe the partitions and start over? I did just install it literally minutues before I came onto this channel.
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Medivh: Naw it can probably be fixed. But you can't login?
[06:32] <Medivh> DaSkreech, nothing, simple blinking white cursor, I tried login I tried shutdown I tried every command I could think of, even things that would not help the situation just to see if I could. It just returned to the next line.
[06:32] <Medivh> Not as far as I can tell :S
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Medivh: Hold up when you start you get past the grub menu and then it's just a cursor ?
[06:32] <Medivh> I can access the recovery console via the boot menu, but...I have absolutely no idea what is wrong.
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Medivh: can you mount the drive ?
[06:33] <Medivh> Yep :S Kubuntu does it's little start up splash screen, where the little bar fills, I'm sure you kno what I'm talking about...and then little cursor.
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Medivh: Ah. hm
[06:33] <DaSkreech> that is funky
[06:33] <Medivh> DaSkreech, Indeed! :S My reaction as well.
[06:33] <DaSkreech> nothing in X should be able to do that. Much less a screensaver
[06:34] <Medivh> Yes :( Exactly my thinking as well.
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Medivh: can you mount the drive ?
[06:34] <Medivh> From the recovery console?
[06:35] <DaSkreech> from the live CD
[06:35] <Medivh> Oh, I dunno, lemme try.
[06:37] <Medivh> Hmm, happen to know the terminal command off hand?
[06:39] <cathedra> hi
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Medivh: do you know the partition?
[06:40] <DaSkreech> !ho
[06:40] <Medivh> DaSkreech, Never mind, I got it.
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ho - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <DaSkreech> !hi
[06:40] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Medivh: cool
[06:41] <Medivh> Yes I do :)  I got it, It mounted fine, I can access it.
[06:41] <cathedra> mm.. can I ask a question?
[06:41] <DaSkreech> !ask
[06:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:41] <Medivh> Cathedra, I believe it's an old "Support" proverb, "Don't ask to ask, just ask."
[06:41] <cathedra> ah great then I can ask my question here
[06:41] <Medivh> The bot says it all doesn't it?
[06:42] <DaSkreech> can you pastebin the file from /mountplace/var/log/dmesg.0 ?
[06:42] <cathedra> ok I will ask my question
[06:42] <Medivh> DaSkreech, yep one second.
[06:43] <cathedra> this is my question ----> how to save a wireless profile?
[06:43] <cathedra> thanks
[06:43] <cathedra> can save no settings
[06:43] <Medivh> DaSkreech, http://pastebin.com/d51eed5bc :)
[06:45] <DaSkreech> Ah
[06:45] <DaSkreech> that's not helpful at all :)
[06:45] <cathedra> :(
[06:45] <Medivh> DaSkreech oh wait, that wasn't the right one O_O
[06:45] <cathedra> I asked my question
[06:45] <Medivh> DaSkreech sorry, I think that was the other one, not .0
[06:45] <DaSkreech> !paitence
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paitence - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <DaSkreech> !Patience
[06:45] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:46] <Medivh> Aw, I'm slow :(
[06:46] <cathedra> how long is the waiting list?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> cathedra: Look in System settings -> networking I think
[06:46] <cathedra> DaSkreech: I did doesn't work
[06:46] <dorkface> Are there alternatives to KNetworkManager?
[06:47] <cathedra> whenever  I click save wont do it
[06:47] <DaSkreech> networkmanager
[06:47] <cathedra> anyone else have this issue?
[06:47] <Medivh> DaSkreech, http://pastebin.com/d57402e6a <-- There, this one is the dmesg.0
[06:47] <cathedra> I need several different profiles
[06:47] <cathedra> well at least two
[06:48] <cathedra> why doesn't save my profiles wireless?
[06:48] <DaSkreech> I'm not sure I don't use wireless :-(
[06:48] <cathedra> you know, actually I don't use kubntu
[06:48] <cathedra> I help other
[06:48] <DaSkreech> cathedra: can You do me a favour and search for it on launchpad ?
[06:48] <DaSkreech> !bug
[06:48] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[06:48] <cathedra> and I like Linux to be succesful
[06:49] <DaSkreech> cathedra: I'm sure. And I am sure it will be addressed
[06:50] <Medivh> Cathedra, I can handle hardware, but certainly don't know Linux as well as I should :( The only thing I really know about Wireless networks is how to set up a Mac and Windows one, sorry I can't be more helpful. :(
[06:50] <cathedra> oh another weird thing, I have a computer that doesn't shutdown and... oh wait does but weirdely. I need to logoff and shutdown from login windows
[06:50] <cathedra> otherwise the screen goes black and never fully shutsdown
[06:50] <cathedra> and also whenever I start it doesn't show the Splash screen
[06:51] <DaSkreech> cathedra: You have an application trying to block shutdown I'll beat
[06:51] <DaSkreech>  last time that happened to me I found out the Cd burner was tryingto ask me something and kept requesting the shutdown be delayed till I answered
[06:52] <Medivh> How rude.
[06:52] <cathedra> DaSkreech: mm... how can I troubleshoot? what kinda logs should I look?
[06:52] <cathedra> because whaever logs gotta be after hard reboot
[06:52] <zach_> what's a good pdf reader
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Medivh: Actually it was trying to be polite
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Medivh: that's what clean shut downs do :)
[06:52] <DaSkreech> kdpf
[06:52] <DaSkreech> kpdf
[06:53] <cathedra> DaSkreech: here the screen goes black but the computer is running still
[06:53] <DaSkreech> cathedra: right
[06:53] <cathedra> zach_: !pdf
[06:53] <zach_> o_O
[06:53] <cathedra> konqueror
[06:53] <Medivh> DaSkreech, Hmm, interesting way to look at it. While you help Cathedra, I will go and get myself a beer.
[06:53] <DaSkreech> cathedra: You could press alt+ctrl+F1 to get to a new terminal and shut down from there
[06:53] <DaSkreech> !pdf | zach_
[06:53] <ubotu> zach_: pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[06:53] <cathedra> DaSkreech: oh... that's why when I completely log off shutdowns properly?
[06:54] <DaSkreech> When you get the black scren
[06:54] <DaSkreech> cathedra: You could also check whats running at that time might give you an idea of the blocking process
[06:54] <cathedra> DaSkreech: he, as I said I install Kubunut on ppl that screech at the sight of having to login with a password
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Well alt+ctrl+Bkspc should be a nice get out free card for them
[06:55] <cathedra> they won't know ctrl+alt-shit/F#+TAB
[06:55] <DaSkreech> that will kill the login and give them the login window
[06:55] <cathedra> DaSkreech: I've tried that one
[06:55] <DaSkreech> they can shut down from there
[06:55] <cathedra> doesn't work
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Oh
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Hm
[06:55] <cathedra> yeah
[06:55] <DaSkreech> that's interesting
[06:56] <DaSkreech> might be a different matter then
[06:56] <cathedra> I should make it clear then
[06:56] <cathedra> DaSkreech: does remote VNC need port forwarding?
[06:56] <DaSkreech> I don't know how you have your network setup
[06:57] <cathedra> I've used VNC localy
[06:57] <DaSkreech> It may it may not
[06:57] <cathedra> no network
[06:57] <cathedra> no I mean accross the city
[06:57] <cathedra> not persoanl
[06:57] <cathedra> lol
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Yeah but at some point it needs to come to your network :)
[06:58] <cathedra> DaSkreech: but the other person would need port forwarding as well right?
[06:59] <DaSkreech> I guess that would be the safe way if you knew what machine you wanted it to go to
[06:59] <DaSkreech> or you could have a stateless forward on the gateway
[07:00] <cathedra> DaSkreech: what's stateless gateway?
[07:04] <Medivh> DaSkreech, so...did you happen to find what you were looking for in the pastebin that I updated for you?
[07:05] <cathedra> DaSkreech: what's a stateless gateway?
[07:06] <DaSkreech> If someone initiates the contact from inside the network it will pass the info through
[07:06] <DaSkreech> Medivh: nope
[07:06] <usser> cathedra: the forwarding only needs to be setup for the server the comp u connect to
[07:06] <DaSkreech> I want to know when in the start up it stops
[07:07] <Medivh> DaSkreech, so my original assessment, to...reformat the drive stands?
[07:07] <cathedra> but that other computer is  a single user not on a network
[07:10] <DaSkreech> Medivh: Do you have a seperate home partition ?
[07:11] <Medivh> DaSkreech...Eh no :(
[07:12] <DaSkreech> Medivh: Do you have data that you need to save?
[07:12] <Medivh> DaSkreech, No, Like I said, I just installed Kubuntu from the CD mere minutes before coming on here.
[07:13] <DaSkreech> Ah :) how much space did you give it?
[07:13] <Medivh> 1gig for swap (Which is overkill, or so I'm told, but I always make it equal to my actual RAM...Is that bad?) And the remaining 79gigs on the SATA drive for the actual distro.
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Medivh: give / like 10 Gigs and make /home the rest of the drive
[07:14] <Medivh> Ok, so make 3 actual partitions.
[07:15] <Medivh> Never done that before, is it...typical? Or did I actually install this incorrectly?
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Medivh: No it's cool :)
[07:15] <DaSkreech> All your data gets stored in /home
[07:16] <DaSkreech> if you put it on a different parititon and you get the itch to reinstall you can blow away / and don't format /home
[07:16] <DaSkreech>  all of you documents and data is safe and you have a new fresh system
[07:16] <kerry_> how do i install more then one thing with a konsole?
[07:16] <DaSkreech> the sweet part is cause your personal settings are saved in your home folder all the apps remember the last song you opened etc :)
[07:17] <DaSkreech> kerry_: apt-get install thing1 thing 2
[07:17] <kerry_> DaSkreech: i got tru to install linux with xp but it take up a lot alltho i told it%  gigs
[07:18] <Medivh> DaSkreech, Lovely!
[07:18] <kerry_>  gigsDaSkreech: the ext is like
[07:18] <DaSkreech> kerry_: Umm ok. How much did it take up?
[07:18] <Medivh> DaSkreech, Well I'll do that now, so...I'll probably be watching TV while it's going, so count me AFK until it's done ;)
[07:18] <DaSkreech> ok
[07:18] <DaSkreech> probably won't take too long :)
[07:19] <Medivh_Away> Probably not, but it gives me time to watch the news and finish my beer >.> *Turns attention to BBC*
[07:19] <tazgodx> does anyone know how to install java SDK and/or JRE 1.5?
[07:19] <tazgodx> or higher?
[07:19] <DaSkreech> !java
[07:19] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:19] <kerry_> DaSkreech: it was a thing that scrolls left to rightby default it was like half way i braught it to the left marking %
[07:19] <DaSkreech> right
[07:20] <Daisuke_Ido> good evening
[07:21] <kerry_> DaSkreech: it look like linux does work backwords :(
[07:21] <tazgodx> well, it says its already teh newest version, but when frostwire tries to load it tells me to install java 1.5 or later
[07:23] <DaSkreech> kerry_: how much % did you put it at?
[07:23] <DaSkreech> !frostwire
[07:23] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:24] <Medivh_Away> DaSkreech, so before I start this, I made the 10 gigs to root, as you suggested. And the remaining 71 to /home as the mount point, correct?
[07:24] <DaSkreech> Medivh_Away:
[07:24] <kerry_> DaSkreech: 10
[07:24] <DaSkreech> cool
[07:24] <Medivh_Away> DaSkreech, lovely, back to the news then.
[07:24] <DaSkreech> kerry_: of?
[07:25] <kerry_> DaSkreech: 10 gig to install linux
[07:25] <DaSkreech> ok
[07:25] <DaSkreech> that's fine
[07:27] <kerry_> DaSkreech: that what i choose in the option when it finish install i check it on xp it take up 57 gig's
[07:27] <DaSkreech> That doesn't sound right
[07:29] <DaSkreech> Linux os generally pretty good about doing what it is told
[07:29] <DaSkreech> is
[07:29] <cosmo_> is the procedure pretty much the same on gutsy as it was on fiesty for enabling dual monitors?
[07:30] <kerry_> and it generally does go crazy sometimes too DaSkreech
[07:30] <Daisuke_Ido> DaSkreech: but it *only* does what it's told, it doesn't take initiative
[07:30] <Daisuke_Ido> how big is this drive?
[07:31] <snowdonkey> Hi.  How do I return to a regular user again after doing "sudo -i" in the console?
[07:31] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Ido: Isn't that the hallmark of a computer
[07:31] <DaSkreech>  rather than the HAL-mark ?
[07:31] <Daisuke_Ido> DaSkreech: not with an OS from that "other" company
[07:31] <Daisuke_Ido> snowdonkey: 'exit'
[07:31] <DaSkreech> ^D
[07:31] <snowdonkey> daisuke_Ido: Thank you much!
[07:32] <Daisuke_Ido> i wish all the questions were that easy :D
[07:32] <DaSkreech> :)
[07:32] <Daisuke_Ido> kerry_: how big is the hard drive you're installing onto?
[07:32] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Ido: If you could help cathedra that would rock
[07:33] <chequers> Daisuke_Ido: how long is a piece of string? :p
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> cathedra'
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> err
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> his issue is going deep into things i'm not familiar with
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> but here's the thing with kerry
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> he wanted 10gb
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> set it to 10%
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> at any drive size other than 100gb, the two aren't equal
[07:35] <DaSkreech> That's what I'm thinking
[07:35] <DaSkreech> but a 570GB drive?
[07:35] <cathedra> Daisuke_Ido: what?
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry, i know, !enter and all of that...  well, what about swap space?  i can see 7gb being used...
[07:36] <Daisuke_Ido> cathedra: sorry for highlighting you, was just saying that your issue goes well beyond what i know about networking :)
[07:36] <kerry_> Daisuke_Ido: i got a 160 gig i went to install xp and part it in 3 then i went to install linux it wasnt seing the 3 part just one(160gig)like it was never parted.so i choose to do an partion of 10% when i did next is when linux detected i got 3 part i did back it come back to 1.so i give up and continue to install how it see the hdd i choose 14%(10gig's) for linux when it install it take up 57gig's :-(
[07:36] <pramod> I have GRUB installed on my PC...
[07:37] <pramod> I use both WinXP and Kubuntu
[07:37] <cathedra> Daisuke_Ido: ok
[07:37] <pramod> by default it is to load on Kubuntu...
[07:37] <pramod> how i make it load on Win XP by befault?
[07:38] <dorkface> Tip:  If you plan on cleaning out the windows partition, and reinstalling it, remember that windows writes over the boot sector, and grub won't load up after windows is installed
[07:38] <pramod> yeah.. ok...
[07:38] <Daisuke_Ido> pramod: there's a setting in grub
[07:38] <pramod> that's why... i installed XP first then Linux...
[07:38] <Daisuke_Ido> lemme look real quick
[07:38] <pramod> okie...
[07:39] <pramod> how i access the setting?
[07:39] <cosmo_>  is the procedure pretty much the same on gutsy as it was on fiesty for enabling dual monitors? as far as modifying the xorg.conf
[07:39] <Daisuke_Ido> you'll have to do a quick edit :)
[07:39] <pramod> quick edit?
[07:40] <pramod> how can i do a quick edit?
[07:40] <kerry_> Daisuke_Ido: my linux is install on 57gig how do i put it to 10gig?
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> kerry_: not sure, i never shrink partitions in linux :)
[07:41] <kerry_> Daisuke_Ido: i try partition magic it cant shrink ext's
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> pramod: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> kerry_: might try gparted or qtparted
[07:42] <DaSkreech> cosmo_: should be
[07:42] <pramod> okie am in it...
[07:42] <pramod> then?
[07:42] <kerry_> the people who do kubuntu should make the instalment more understading
[07:42] <DaSkreech> kerry_: You will have to do that from the live CD
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> scroll down until you see your windows entry
[07:42] <kerry_> it's crappy
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> kerry_: the installer is nicer than most operating systems, especially windows.
[07:43] <pramod> okie
[07:43] <pramod> yeah it is down....
[07:43] <pramod> at the last section...
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> is there a line at the bottom of it that says "savedefault"?
[07:43] <pramod> yeah there is...
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> good
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> go all the way back up to the top
[07:43] <kerry_> DaSkreech: cd live?will i have to install something to do that?
[07:43] <pramod> okie
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> there's a line that says "default          0"
[07:44] <pramod> wait i will check
[07:44] <pramod> yeah got it...
[07:44] <pramod> then?
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> change 0 to saved
[07:44] <pramod> what should i put?
[07:44] <Medivh_Away> Rebooting :)
[07:44] <pramod> change it to saved?
[07:44] <pramod> okie...
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> yes, it should say default saved
[07:45] <pramod> got it....
[07:45] <pramod> then?
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> save the file
[07:45] <pramod> okie saved...
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> and close er up
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> you're all done
[07:45] <pramod> well i should not have changed anything else?
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> what that did is...  whatever you last selected (be it linux or xp) will become your default until you choose another one :)
[07:46] <pramod> ah aloright...
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> i just wanted to make sure that windows would save as default before having you change that line
[07:46] <pramod> thanx brother...
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> you're quite welcome
[07:46] <pramod> okie i will try it...
[07:46] <pramod> c ya..
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> select windows when you rebooy
[07:47] <Daisuke_Ido> reboot*
[07:47] <DaSkreech> That's neat :)
[07:47] <pramod> oki
[07:47] <Daisuke_Ido> after that it will default to windows
[07:47] <DaSkreech> Now if I could only find a way for the kernels to output info after they are installed
[07:48] <kerry_> i try to install linux on 10gig but it was install on 57 gig.how do i shrink linux?
[07:48] <pramod> lol got some updates to make...
[07:49] <DaSkreech> kerry_: With qtparted or Gparted
[07:49] <DaSkreech> kerry_: they are on the live CD reboot into the Live cd and run either one
[07:50] <pramod> how can we make .nrg images and mount it on linux???
[07:50] <kerry_> DaSkreech: u will help me right?dont go sleep on me hien
[07:50] <kerry_> brb
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Ido: going to be up for another 20-30 minutes?
[07:51] <DaSkreech> hi medivh
[07:51] <pramod> can we make images from the K3B application provided by linux?
[07:51] <Daisuke_Ido> you can make images, but not nero format images
[07:51] <pramod> then how we mount them on linux?
[07:51] <Daisuke_Ido> you're limited to pretty much iso and bin/cue (much to my dreamcast loving dismay
[07:51] <Daisuke_Ido> )
[07:51] <medivh> DaSkreech, ello again :) Everything is good so far as I can tell, I just need to run the xorg reconfiguration again, and update stuff...But meh *Shrug* No biggie.
[07:51] <Daisuke_Ido> DaSkreech: i'm actually headed out in a minute
[07:51] <Daisuke_Ido> sleep time
[07:52] <DaSkreech> Me too
[07:52] <DaSkreech> You can mount .nrgs in linux
[07:52] <DaSkreech>  there is an app in kde-apps
[07:53] <pramod> which app is it?
[07:53] <DaSkreech> *shrugs*
[07:53] <DaSkreech> search for .nrg
[07:53] <DaSkreech>  It's a service menu I think
[07:53] <pramod> okie...
[07:53] <pramod> lemme c...
[07:54] <medivh> DaSkreech, do you believe I should report my... Black screen of doom as a bug or something? It just bothers me that, that happened.
[07:54] <DaSkreech> If you can replicate it
[07:54] <DaSkreech> What screensaver was it?
[07:54] <medivh> The fireworks one, a personal favourite :}
[07:55] <DaSkreech> Have you looked at the setup?
[07:55] <DaSkreech> they have some crazy fun stuff in there
[07:55] <medivh> Yes, infact I was just done setting it up and had hit apply when...Death by Cursor happened to befall my poor partition.
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Well I just played with it
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Seems ok
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Hey medivh think that you can handle a partition resize?
[07:57] <medivh> I'm doing things in different order this time hehe, Updates first, then Xorg, then all that fun stuff.
[07:57] <medivh> DaSkreech, do I know how to do it? Without repartitioning, I don't :S
[07:57] <ubuntu> Daisuke_Ido: ok zhqt do i do to shrink linux
[07:57] <DaSkreech> medivh: :)
[07:58] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Kubuntu live Cd ?
[07:58] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: yes
[07:58] <DaSkreech> press alt+space -> type qtp -> press enter
[07:59] <ubuntu> how do i change the keyboard layout first
[08:00] <DaSkreech> system settings -> regional settings
[08:01] <reldruh> hello. I'm trying to set up a second display (a TV with a VGA input) using the VGA output on my nvidia card, but the screen isn't recognized when I plug it in. Is there an easy way to set this up?
[08:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[08:01] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: didnt help.oh zell to the qtq thing
[08:02] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Didn't open qtparted ?
[08:02] <medivh> !hi
[08:02] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:02] <DaSkreech> !twinview
[08:02] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[08:02] <MilhousePunkRock> I am planning to do a fresh install this weekend after more than 1.5 years... As usual, I am pondering about the partitioning scheme that would fit my needs best...
[08:02] <DaSkreech> !dualhead
[08:02] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[08:02] <DaSkreech> reldruh: ^^
[08:03] <medivh> Dual Head lol
[08:03] <reldruh> thank you :-)
[08:03] <medivh> Makes it sound like Scylla out of Greek Mythology
[08:03] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i dont understand
[08:03] <ubuntu> this thing it long
[08:03] <MilhousePunkRock> !ping
[08:03] <ubotu> pong
[08:04] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: press alt+space somthing will come up on the screen. type qtp It should say QTparted then press enter
[08:04] <DaSkreech> !test
[08:04] <ubotu> Failed.
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Ph :- (
[08:04] <medivh> Oi lol
[08:04] <DaSkreech> !botsnack
[08:04] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[08:04] <DaSkreech> !helpersnack | medivh
[08:04] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i did it allredy
[08:04] <ubotu> medivh: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[08:04] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: You clicked on your drive ?
[08:05] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: its there but its like its 4 ti;e ;y screen
[08:05] <ubuntu> its long
[08:05] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: did thqt
[08:05] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Just resize the window to see it better
[08:05] <DaSkreech>  right click on the 56 GB partition and choose resize
[08:05] <MilhousePunkRock> I have 30 GB to spend... Was thinking about 10 for / and the rest for /home. The only concern that I have is that I might have to install Windows later on *sigh*
[08:05] <medivh> Shouldn't you be getting the helper snacks DaSkreech? hehe
[08:06] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i try to rezize it didnt zork
[08:06] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: Install Windows ona USB drive and just use that when needed
[08:06] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: What did it say?
[08:06] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, Only 30 gigs for two operating systems? O_o *Lol* /agree with DaSkreech's suggestion.
[08:06] <DaSkreech> Mil
[08:07] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: Or start looking into how to strip Windows to make it smaller
[08:07] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: say.it didnt say nothing
[08:07] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: it only got info of the hdd
[08:07] <MilhousePunkRock> DaSkreech medivh: I am not going to install Windows right now, I just have to make sure I could when I have to later... From what I read now, it does not even matter which partition it gets...
[08:07] <DaSkreech> You set the size you wanted it to be ?
[08:08] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: not yet im looking to ere i does set the size
[08:08] <DaSkreech> Right click and choose resize
[08:09] <MilhousePunkRock> I won't need more than let's say 5 GB for home, since I do not handle big files or many stuff here, it's only my laptop... There is an external 250 GB on the desktop and 400 GB of NAS space available...
[08:09] <ubuntu> DaSkreech:  its grey i cant clic on resize
[08:09] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, If you wondering the minimum I've ever put Windows on it was 10 gigs :S But you're correct in saying it doesn't care.
[08:09] <DaSkreech> You clicked on the drive and it's showing the right partitions ?
[08:09] <gunashekar> hi
[08:10] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: yes ext 3 56gig
[08:10] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: it got linux logo
[08:10] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: Even if I did install Windows later on, it won't get big. Just the essential parts, maybe OOo and Fx. And a few poker games... Plus the specialised software that requires me to run Windows at all
[08:11] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: it has an option active.zat is it
[08:11] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, so then it sounds like to me that you have far more than enough space to spare :) But as for Window's minimums space, Are we talking Vista or XP?
[08:12] <DaSkreech> Huh. You are supposed to have other options
[08:12] <medivh> I was under the impression that Vista requires a fair bit more space.
[08:12] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: All the partitions give you no options other than active ?
[08:12] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: XP that is... Vista won't run on this rig, at least not in a way that it was worth to prefer Vista over XP, if there are reasons for that at all
[08:13] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i can resize all the other exept linnnnnux
[08:13] <MilhousePunkRock> Good thing is, from my university, I have access to all sorts of Windows isos legally... I even downloaded Vista, never burned the discs though
[08:14] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Oh ok ... I guess you could delete it and set it to what you want and reinstall
[08:14] <DaSkreech> try a ext3 partition
[08:14] <DaSkreech> medivh: Define "fair"
[08:15] <medivh> DaSkreech, More than XP, but less than Mutiple copies of World of Warcraft? ;) lol
[08:15] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: delet and reinstall u got to be kidding
[08:15] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Well if it won't let you resize
[08:15] <DaSkreech> It's ext2 "
[08:15] <DaSkreech> ?
[08:15] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, I can give you a thousand and one reasons to hate Vista *cough* But I wont go there ;) I'd say at least 7gigs, and if you need special software, leave 10. So you said you want 10 for root? Go 10 root, 10 /home and 9ish for Windows (Assuming for swap)
[08:16] <DaSkreech> !windows
[08:16] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[08:16] <medivh> LOL!
[08:16] <reldruh> if I upgraded to Gutsy, with the XRandR with ouput hotplugging, would it automatically configure my second monitor without having to edit xorg.conf?
[08:16] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: So that is 20 for /home until the day comes...
[08:16] <MilhousePunkRock> !lol | medivh
[08:16] <ubotu> medivh: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[08:17] <medivh> Truth, sorry, WoW habit.
[08:17] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: zhy will i wqnt help from window when im on linux
[08:17] <medivh> Being an English teacher I should know bette.r
[08:17] <medivh> better.*
[08:17] <DaSkreech> you know Bette R? I love her stuff!!!
[08:18] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: What do you mean?
[08:18] <MilhousePunkRock> before I started googleing this morning, I was under the impression Win would require to be on hda1. Which does not seem to be the case...
[08:18] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, Yep, I'd say so...But you'd have to give a little pull for swap, even if it's tiny ;) Don't forget that.
[08:18] <DaSkreech> Well he doesn't need a swap
[08:18] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: u told me to go to window ch
[08:18] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: Being on only 512 MB, I know the need for swap...
[08:18] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: No that was for MilhousePunkRock
[08:19] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: That was for me and medivh
[08:19] <MilhousePunkRock> reldruh: Gutsy is in #ubuntu+1 until the final release
[08:20] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, 512? :( Would you like me to buy you RAM?
[08:20] <MilhousePunkRock> By the way, is there something like Wine, but for MacOS applications? Scientist are somewhat hooked on Mac OS...
[08:20] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: oh lol how my na;e is ubuntu i get confuse
[08:20] <ubuntu> lol
[08:21] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: change it
[08:21] <DaSkreech> !nick
[08:21] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:21] <DaSkreech> or something like that :)
[08:21] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: Definetly... I think the machine can take up to 2 GB, but it's an older Laptop, so getting good ram for it is somewhat difficult
[08:21] <DaSkreech> medivh: I'd like a PS3 thanks :)
[08:21] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i knoz hoz to change it but i can find the sy;bol
[08:21] <DaSkreech> try /nick newnick
[08:21] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: I started with Kubuntu Dapper on only 256 MB
[08:22] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: the keyboard is in confution
[08:22] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: in any case sort out your keyboard
[08:22] <DaSkreech> you can run parted from the command line with sudo parted
[08:22] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: try it allready it didnt zork
[08:22] <DaSkreech>  that can resize ext2
[08:22] <ubuntu> lol
[08:22] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: sudo parted won't resize ?
[08:22] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, I actually was on Dapper until just recently, granted I've been updating my box, so at the moment I have 1.5gigs I believe >.>
[08:23] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: just sudo parted
[08:23] <DaSkreech> and that doesn't run ?
[08:23] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: In the lab, I am currently using an oooold iMac (one of those candy-colored all-in-one CRT screen machines) with only 196 MB or something
[08:23] <medivh> Time for Zorg >.>
[08:24] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: can you walk through a resize of a partition /
[08:24] <DaSkreech> ?
[08:24] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, ah, I think I once destroyed one of those for personal entertainment >.>
[08:25] <MilhousePunkRock> DaSkreech: I have always used either the GPartEd live CD or parted on the shell
[08:25] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: great can you walk ubuntu through resizing his 56 GB ext2 partition to 10 GB
[08:26] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: And there is OS X on it, for some reason... All the desktop effects work almost smooth...
[08:26] <ubuntu> DaSkreech:its an ext3
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Oh?
[08:26] <DaSkreech> really?
[08:26] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, really? Wow.
[08:26] <MilhousePunkRock> DaSkreech: Well... I could at least try, but with no guarantee whatsoever
[08:26] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: So what's the current status?
[08:27] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: Compiz could learn a lot about the performance from its role model ;)
[08:27] <medivh> I have an old laptop, no name, I think it was made before penitum, thing is bloody ancient. It has Windows 98 on it and it takes about a half hour just to turn on :P
[08:28] <ubuntu> MilhousePunkRock: mm when i try installing linux on 10 gig it take up 56gigs i qant to shrink it to 10gigs
[08:28] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: You should try xubuntu on that, you'd be surprised...
[08:28] <MilhousePunkRock> DaSkreech: Well, it does not seem to have been parted, what's the cli tool that gives you sort of a menu with numbers to choose the options for partitioning?
[08:29] <DaSkreech> fdisk but that's destructive
[08:29] <DaSkreech> open up onqueror and type man:/parted
[08:29] <ubuntu> ,,,mmm...
[08:29] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock You know I was really thinking about it, but there has been a lot of family chaos recently, and as such, I actually lost the power supply >.< So until I can find that again, I'll be putting off my Xubuntu plans.
[08:29] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: Are you trying to use the inbuilt partitioning tool during the kubuntu installation?
[08:29] <MilhousePunkRock> DaSkreech: I think it was cfdisk, let me check
[08:29] <DaSkreech> Night all
[08:29] <DaSkreech> ok
[08:30] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: I just got myself a secondary power supply for around 10 bucks on eBay
[08:30] <MilhousePunkRock> DaSkreech: Night!
[08:31] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: ....
[08:31] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, yeah but finding one for something this old...I dunno :S
[08:31] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: OK, I got a plan... 1. I get myself some coffee, in the meantime you open a shell (Hit "Alt-F2" and type "konsole").
[08:32] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: lol just to ope a konsole
[08:32] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: ...
[08:32] <medivh> Excuse my random leave :P
[08:33] <medivh> When I hit OK on that Window...X just went O NOEZ
[08:34] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Do you have more than one physical drive?
[08:34] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: If not, run "sudo cfdisk"
[08:34] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: no just 1 that is parted in ;any
[08:34] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: i dont zant to reinstall linux
[08:34] <calvete> #ubuntu-br
[08:35] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: You are on the Live CD right now, are you?
[08:35] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: Welcome back
[08:35] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: yes
[08:35] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, Thanks :)
[08:36] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: cfdisk open? I am not sure if this will work on the live cd
[08:37] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: i have 1 hdd that parted in ;any do i stll run cfdisk
[08:37] <medivh> Erk >.<
[08:37] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Yeah, at least try it
[08:37] <medivh> My resolultion isn't fixed >.<
[08:38] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: Opened disk read-only - you have no permission to writ
[08:38] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: thqt za the konsole said
[08:38] <medivh> Ooo yay, I got it.
[08:39] <HackAvatar> jeez I just bought a 22" LCD and it is leet :)
[08:40] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: ...
[08:41] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Quit cfdisk and try again with "sudo cfdisk sda"
[08:41] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Could be hda instead of sda, depending on the type of your hdd
[08:42] <MilhousePunkRock> !ping
[08:42] <ubotu> pong
[08:42] <mirko> ciao
[08:43] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: sudo cfdisk sda
[08:43] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Does that work? If not, it should be hda instead of sda
[08:43] <sleepy>  FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[08:43] <sleepy>                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[08:44] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock:
[08:44] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Try hda
[08:44] <sleepy> my hdd is sata
[08:44] <sleepy> sda
[08:44] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Then it should be sda, I assume
[08:44] <sleepy> yes
[08:45] <MilhousePunkRock> And that gives you the fatal error?
[08:45] <sleepy> yes
[08:45] <sleepy> 2 of them
[08:45] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Weird...
[08:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Do you have a fast internet connection, sleepy?
[08:46] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: should i enable zrite its ;ayby that the probb
[08:46] <MilhousePunkRock> If so, I'd suggest downloading the GPartEd Live CD, that has always worked for me
[08:46] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: hoz big it is
[08:46] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Is the partiton mounted?
[08:47] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: no
[08:48] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: It's 49 MB
[08:48] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[08:49] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: i dont have a blank cd
[08:50] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Hmm... Too bad... It should be possible with cfdisk though.
[08:50] <MilhousePunkRock> I wonder how...
[08:51] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: i; on cfdisk
[08:52] <waylandbill> sleepy: off to the store you go to get a blank cd then. :-P
[08:52] <sleepy> hahahaha 2 in the morning
[08:52] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: ?? Did cfdisk open without the error?
[08:52] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: yes
[08:52] <MilhousePunkRock> So you see a table of your partitions now?
[08:53] <sleepy> nope all i see is pri;ary logical cancel
[08:54] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: choos primary right
[08:54] <lee__> ok
[08:54] <sleepy> ...
[08:54] <lee__> i have one question befor I hit the hay....where do I get talkers at?
[08:55] <lee__> eh anyone?
[08:55] <gunashekar> sleepy hits hay while the sun shnes
[08:56] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Does it look like this somehow: http://www.spongedpics.com/upload/WY1192258529W47106be1bb114-Bildschirmphoto9.png
[08:56] <lee__> lol... well Iam trying to figure out the tts on this thing and I have no vioces
[08:57] <lee__> ?
[08:57] <achilles> Aloha all, i need help I only get logout button in logout menu in Kubuntu after the kde base upgrade
[08:57] <MilhousePunkRock> lee__: tts as in TeamSpeak with an accidental second t?
[08:58] <lee__> as in text-speech
[08:58] <MilhousePunkRock> lee__: No idea, sorry...
[08:58] <MilhousePunkRock> achilles: You will probably have to grant the right to shutdown to all users
[08:58] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Still there?
[08:58] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: http://www.spongedpics.com/index.php
[08:58] <lee__> running a 64 bit systemm...a freind of mine on ehre hsowed me how to get it to run flash
[08:59] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: That's not the URL of the picture, but the homepage
[08:59] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: it takes time zhit this keyboard
[09:00] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: http://www.spongedpics.com/upload/WN1192258690W47106c823a2db-snapshot1.png
[09:00] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Weren't we talking about 56 GB earlier?
[09:01] <sleepy> yes
[09:01] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Do you have more than one drive? Maybe it is sdb instead?
[09:01] <medivh> I'm going to bed everyone :)
[09:01] <medivh> Have a good night.
[09:01] <sleepy> whet option do i choose
[09:01] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: Sleep well
[09:01] <medivh> You too Milhouse :)
[09:01] <sleepy> let te bed bugs bite
[09:02] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: hoz did u get to the part zhere u see your partitions
[09:02] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: It seems you picked the wrong drive, maybe...
[09:03] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: no i typa sudo cf.... and this is the firts page i got
[09:03] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: unless i have to mount all hdd
[09:03] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: sudo cfdisk <thedesireddrive> ??
[09:04] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: oh i didnt knoz
[09:05] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Changing the partition table on a mounted drive is not a smart idea...
[09:05] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: So leave it unmounted, but pick the right one, I'd say it should be sda
[09:05] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: So type: "sudo cfdisk sda"
[09:06] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: theres no nu;ber that goes zhit it
[09:06] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: No, you want to open the whole drive, not just one partitio
[09:07] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: fatal error
[09:08] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: How is the drive usually addressed? Is it sda at all?
[09:09] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock:  ys
[09:09] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: zhen i went to mount it it was sda
[09:10] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Is the drive mounted right now?
[09:10] <sleepy> no
[09:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Hmm...
[09:11] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: u know i;, going to reinstaal but u wiil help ;e i dont want it to take up a lot of space]
[09:11] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: When it was mounted, could you access it properly? Maybe there's a module missing so the drive doesn't work properly on the Live CD
[09:12] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: There is no need to reinstall, actually... And the partitoning tool during the installation usually does what it is supposed to...
[09:13] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Don't you have a CD-RW that could be deleted either? I think GPartEd would be the easiest solution
[09:15] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: yes but my conection is only 512
[09:15] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: So downloading takes about 15 minutes...
[09:15] <sleepy> that a lot
[09:16] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: If you did it when I mentioned it before, you'd be done already...
[09:16] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: i got blanks cd but there a are lightscribe
[09:17] <sleepy> i dont zant to zast 1 for that
[09:17] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Your choice... Do you have a USB thumb drive, maybe?
[09:18] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: thumb
[09:19] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: gparted not doznloading
[09:23] <sleepy> i quit
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: I'd say, "waste" one of those CD-Rs and try GPartEd...
[09:26] <Scunizi> What is the name of the plugin for Konquer or Kaffeine to play wmv files from the web
[09:27] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: it not doznloading.hoz do i joind partition to ;ake 1
[09:28] <sleepy> Scunizi: free so;thing
[09:28] <sleepy> som;ehing
[09:29] <sleepy> lol dan; keyboard
[09:29] <Scunizi> sleepy, can you be more specific?
[09:29] <sleepy> Scunizi: non free
[09:30] <Scunizi> sleepy.. but what do i search for in adept? non free?
[09:30] <sleepy> Scunizi: nonfree
[09:31] <Scunizi> flash plugin-nonfree I already have.. looking for something that will play mgp
[09:31] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Why is it not downloading? Try a different mirror
[09:32] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: i allredy delet linux
[09:32] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: how to join them
[09:33] <sleepy> i give up
[09:33] <sleepy> bye
[09:33] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: The partitions? Well, with cfdisk or GPartEd or QtParted... Just try again when installing, it is supposed to work
[09:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Can Dolphin sort by file type?
[10:04] <akrill> my laptop's touchpad is too slow, how can i increase the cursor speed?
[10:13] <medivh> Erg :( Insomnia ftl.
[10:15] <hangthedj> !ksynaptics
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksynaptics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <hangthedj> !find ksynaptics
[10:16] <ubotu> Found: ksynaptics
[10:16] <hangthedj> !info ksynaptics
[10:16] <ubotu> ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 209 kB, installed size 1012 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
[10:16] <akrill> installed it heh. thanks
[10:17] <kopco> can somebody help to me?? I have problem with program Envy :(
[10:17] <medivh> !kbfx
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <newsense07> !bot abuse
[10:17] <ubotu> Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot
[10:17] <hangthedj> who's abusing the bots?
[10:17] <medivh> I fail to see what prompted that.
[10:17] <kopco> !info envy
[10:17] <ubotu> Package envy does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:17] <hangthedj> err bot
[10:17] <pag> !envy | kopco
[10:17] <ubotu> kopco: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[10:18] <akrill> wow, kubuntu 64-bit is so much faster than 32-bit on my box
[10:18] <akrill> its amazing the diff
[10:18] <medivh> Don't suppose anyone ues KBFX?
[10:18] <newsense07> hangthedj: wasnt meant twords you, sorry
[10:18] <hangthedj> k
[10:19] <newsense07> hangthedj: was trying to select something else in irc history
[10:19] <pag> medivh, I've used it for maybe two hours - does it count? :P
[10:19] <hangthedj> heres a tip to people: if your trying to find something only for yourself
[10:19] <hangthedj> try /msg ubotu !ksynaptic for example
[10:20] <hangthedj> or /msg ubotu !find ksynaptic
[10:20] <hangthedj> it will give you a private message.
[10:20] <linux_stu> anyone know if there is a file that can be edited to make changes to kde settings rather than use the control center?
[10:20] <newsense07> hangthedj: sorry again, was selecting a previous  comment and selected the wrong one
[10:20] <contrast83> Anyone know what would cause KNetworkManager to not list any devices on right-click even though I *am* online?
[10:20] <hangthedj> i know, i was just giving a tip. :)
[10:21] <medivh> pag, heh, well I don't believe it's working like it should, which frusterates meh.
[10:21] <newsense07> hangthedj: im not a newb, just a little drunk
[10:21] <medivh> me* too I have no idea where that H came from lol
[10:21] <newsense07> lol
[10:21] <pag> linux_stu, ~/.kde/share/config/$ConfigFileYouNeed - there's no general file, that has acces to all settings iirc
[10:21] <pag> hmph. he left :(
[10:22] <flokuehn> ill tell him if i meet
[10:22] <newsense07> i hate irc'ing when im drunk and trying to figure out the channel ban or if i was really drunk the g-line in the morning lol
[10:22] <hangthedj> contrast83, i have a atheros driver, and sometimes that happens to me.  i have to sudo killall NetworkManager && sudo NetworkManager
[10:22] <hangthedj> and it usually fixes itself
[10:22] <contrast83> hangthedj: leave knetworkmanager running while you do that?
[10:23] <hangthedj> contrast83, yeah
[10:23] <pag> medivh, could you be more specific - how does it work, and how it should in your opinion work?
[10:23] <hangthedj> in fact, i wrote a little shell script to do it.
[10:24] <hangthedj> it usually only happens when i'm trying to connect to unsecure networks away from home, if that makes any sense.
[10:24] <medivh> pag, I've got it never mind, it was...frusteratingly vauge.
[10:24] <contrast83> hangthedj: It does... Didn't work though, but thanks anyway. :)
[10:25] <newsense07> contrast83: using dhcp ?
[10:25] <hangthedj> it usually takes a second for me. if your using madwifi.. .in my script i sudo modprobe -r ath-pci && sudo modprobe ath-pci
[10:25] <contrast83> newsense07: yeah
[10:25] <newsense07> contrast83: if so might want to renew your lease with dhcpclient or whatever client you use
[10:25] <contrast83> newsense07: umm... dumb question, but how might i do that?
[10:26] <newsense07> sudo dhclient3 ?
[10:26] <contrast83> newsense07: still no dice, thanks though. :-)
[10:27] <contrast83> it'll probably fix itself eventually. just started recently with a recent gutsy update.
[10:27] <newsense07> what chipset is the card and what kernel you using ?
[10:27] <contrast83> (and for the record, i already asked in #ubuntu+1 and didn't get anywhere. :-) )
[10:27] <hangthedj> contrast83, what is your wireless card?
[10:28] <newsense07> contrast83: what module were you using under your previous kernel ?
[10:28] <contrast83> Cisco Aironet / 2.6.22-14
[10:28] <newsense07> and now ?
[10:28] <contrast83> newsense07: not sure, it just worked out of the box. like i said, the card is working fine now. it's just that knetworkmanager isn't.
[10:29] <contrast83> madwifi modules if it worked ootb, right?
[10:29] <hangthedj> there are alternatives to knetworkmanager, like kwlan, which is pretty nice, and wireless assistant
[10:29] <hangthedj> i like kwlan
[10:30] <contrast83> i'll check that out, thanks a lot. been wondering whether there was a good alternative for a while now, just been too lazy to look.
[10:31] <hangthedj> if your running gutsy, its in the repositories.
[10:31] <contrast83> are there any network manager frontends that would be good for war driving? i.e., it automatically tries to connect to the strongest unencrypted signal?
[10:31] <hangthedj> in universe
[10:32] <newsense07> contrast83: airsnort or kizmit maybe
[10:32] <contrast83> newsense07: thanks
[10:33] <newsense07> contrast83: err kismit might be the right spelling for that app
[10:33] <hangthedj> i don't think airsnort or kizmit are very automatic
[10:34] <newsense07> hangthedj: from what i remember airsnort is
[10:34] <akrill> kismet
[10:34] <akrill> its kismet
[10:34] <newsense07> hangthedj: been a while since i needed to test the strength of my hex key
[10:35] <newsense07> akrill: thanks, been a while since ive used "those sort" of apps
[10:35] <akrill> no prob
[10:35] <hangthedj> airsnort cracks stuff, but you need other programs to connect after you crack them
[10:36] <akrill> i want to know when a new KisMac is coming out.
[10:36] <newsense07> contrast83: never tried it, if knetworkmanager ever disappears ill give it a try
[10:37] <hangthedj> kwlan constantly monitors your connects, where knetworkmanager tries a couple times and stops.
[10:37] <contrast83> it lets you set it to run a script upon connecting to certain networks, and since i'm still doing "sudo mount <nfs-share> /mount/point" for networking, that'll make things easier
[10:38] <contrast83> hangthedj: from my first impression, you have to tell it that it's ok to connect to an unfamiliar network. am i wrong?
[10:38] <newsense07> contrast83: why not a script to mount your nfs sharres too ?
[10:38] <akrill> ummm how do i get knetworkmanager back working after installing kwlan
[10:38] <contrast83> newsense07: i have one, actually. i just mean it'll be nice to have it automated. :-)
[10:39] <hangthedj> contrast83, not sure, there might be a config option for that.  i only use it when knetworkmanager is being dumb.
[10:39] <contrast83> oh ok
[10:39] <CH1P> My ethernet card is not getting detected and i am new to kubuntu please help, the forums do not contain the solution
[10:39] <hangthedj> which is only when i'm at a random coffee shop, which is not often
[10:40] <newsense07> contrast83: i hear ya man, i myself had to put together a couple scripts for various tasks, havent done that since i had my debian box a feqw yrs back
[10:40] <contrast83> i actually kind of enjoy making scripts.
[10:40] <newsense07> CH1P: how do you know its not being detected ?
[10:41] <CH1P> newsense07: i cannot see the wired connection and modconf too cant identify it
[10:41] <hangthedj> CH1P, what does lspci|grep Ethernet do
[10:42] <newsense07> hangthedj: ya asked my next ?
[10:42] <hangthedj> i'll come back later, i gotta sleep
[10:43] <newsense07> gn man
[10:43] <CH1P> hangthedj: i am on windows right now
[10:43] <X314Z159> Blasphermy!
[10:43] <akrill> seriously, how do i re-enable networkmanager
[10:44] <newsense07> CH1P: can ya remove any ms brand os'es and call me in the morning
[10:44] <newsense07> jk
[10:44] <contrast83> akrill: i'm trying to figure that out atm too
[10:44] <akrill> i made the mistake of trying kwlan
[10:44] <akrill> which sucks.
[10:44] <akrill> and now i cant get networkmanager back
[10:44] <newsense07> sudo dpkg--reconfigure knetwork-manager ?
[10:45] <akrill> mmm ponderous. will do that after this restart
[10:45] <newsense07> probobly the easiest way i would think
[10:45] <akrill> oh, and how do i get kubuntu to load ndiswrapper at startup? its been a loooong time since i played with that stuff
[10:45] <CH1P> "wired connection" or "ethernet" doesn't appear in administration > network
[10:47] <contrast83> ohh, actually, kwlan conflicts with knetworkmanager. just noticed that.
[10:47] <newsense07> ndiswrapper blows
[10:48] <akrill> contrast83: apt-get remove kwlan
[10:48] <akrill> contrast83: apt-get install knetworkmanager
[10:48] <X314Z159> newsense07: you want to know what blows? trying to install Ubuntu on your laptop and the processor burns up.
[10:48] <akrill> i just realized that too
[10:49] <akrill> X314Z159: ?!
[10:49] <newsense07> X314Z159: yeah that takes the cake
[10:49] <X314Z159> apparently ubuntu had some problem with my special model of laptop, the processor overheats. thats what i found out.. afterwards..
[10:50] <newsense07> X314Z159: dont feel bad, ive been without a computer/internet for 3 yrs since my 2800 dollar laptop was stolen
[10:50] <X314Z159> ouch.
[10:50] <newsense07> X314Z159: not a sager is it, i had one and it was nicknamed "the toaster"
[10:50] <X314Z159> newsense07: I have so many spares so It doesnt matter.. but I had only one laptop ><
[10:51] <X314Z159> the toster \o/
[10:51] <newsense07> X314Z159: can ya send me a box, ill pay s+h
[10:53] <picca> does kubuntu desktop contain the full openldap, but just not configured to startup as a daemon?
[10:53] <X314Z159> newsense07: hehe. but its expensive to send stuff ><
[10:54] <newsense07> X314Z159: send me a core2 duo and ill pay the s+h lmao
[10:54] <newsense07> X314Z159: box i got now is a p42.6ht i got out the trash
[10:54] <X314Z159> newsense07: haha. I dont have any duo cores.. well.. I have 2 but my brother has em
[10:55] <newsense07> X314Z159: im very poor
[10:55] <newsense07> X314Z159: im using a neighbors wifi connect
[10:55] <X314Z159> newsense07: I
[10:55] <X314Z159> I'm poor to, I just have allot of computers
[10:55] <X314Z159> too*
[10:56] <newsense07> X314Z159: im just playing with ya except the part about my trash pc an being poor and hungry
[10:56] <newsense07> X314Z159: send me a box and write it off at tax season ?
[10:57] <X314Z159> hehe, well, I live on noodles. 50p for 2pounds.
[10:58] <X314Z159> newsense07: what is this tax you speak of? :P ;)
[10:58] <newsense07> X314Z159: we are alike than except you have more computers, lol
[10:58] <newsense07> X314Z159: taxes
[10:59] <newsense07> X314Z159: if theres no taxes where you are why dont you just setup a box for me and ill move in
[10:59] <picca> does kubuntu desktop come with mysql on the cd
[11:00] <newsense07> !packages   mysql
[11:00] <MementoMori> hi all
[11:00] <MementoMori> anyone from poland?
[11:00] <newsense07> wassup
[11:00] <X314Z159> newsense07: hehe. we have a ton of taxes.. paying is something else
[11:00] <newsense07> MementoMori: im polish
[11:01] <stdin> picca: no
[11:01] <X314Z159> MementoMori: #kubuntu-offtopic for chitchat
[11:01] <picca> stdin: just the common mysql libs?
[11:01] <MementoMori> newsense07: can you translate a very little text for me?
[11:01] <newsense07> sure
[11:01] <MementoMori> odpalenie jadra z flaga NOAPIC/NOACPI/ACPI=NO (niepotrzebne skreslic,
[11:01] <MementoMori> nigdy nie pamietam jak to idzie) moze cos pomoze
[11:02] <stdin> picca: no, only the server version has mysql on it
[11:03] <picca> okay thanks stdin
[11:04] <MementoMori> newsense07: ?
[11:08] <the-erm> Did you try sudo apt-get install <package> ?
[11:11] <newsense07> MementoMori: i dont read polish as well as my brother, i never been to poland(grew up in us) but he says its saying that acpi neverbasically
[11:11] <newsense07> MementoMori: let me see if my sister is up i trust her more
[11:11] <MementoMori> lol
[11:11] <MementoMori> :)
[11:11] <MementoMori> thank you
[11:12] <newsense07> MementoMori: hes not a computer guy so he didnt understand half of it
[11:12] <MementoMori> dont worry newsense07
[11:12] <newsense07> MementoMori: im guessing acpi is disabled
[11:12] <MementoMori> thank you anyway
[11:13] <newsense07> MementoMori: sorry, i speak it from what i learneed from my grandma, but not as good as i thought
[11:13] <MementoMori> I'd like to know if I've to set all the three parameters or try one of them until I find the right one
[11:14] <stdin> it probably means "Try booting with the flags NOAPIC/NOACPI/ACPI=NO" so  you need to add "noapic noacpi acpi=no" to the boot line
[11:15] <MementoMori> stdin: I will try this way
[11:17] <MementoMori> I'm trying to install kubuntu on a compaq 6720s
[11:17] <newsense07> MementoMori: you just made me realize that i cant read polish very well, how do you spell hot in polish (coronzso?)
[11:17] <MementoMori> gutsy have lan problems, feisty had video problems too
[11:18] <the-erm> is gusty out, or is it still beta?
[11:18] <MementoMori> is a rc
[11:19] <stdin> MementoMori: on my HP I have to use "noapic nolapic pci=noacpi acpi=off" to boot
[11:19] <MementoMori> nolapic?
[11:20] <MementoMori> the formers didnt work
[11:20] <MementoMori> lets try the latters
[11:20] <stdin> lapic is the Intel version of apic
[11:20] <MementoMori> I just read it is "local apic"
[11:21] <MementoMori> http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt#1151
[11:21] <stdin> well it is, but it's intel's standard
[11:21] <cosmo_> I am trying to get my xorg configured on gutsy, but I cant get the ubuntu forums to load to find instructions, I have 2 monitors, the primary is a acer al2016w lcd and the secondary is a optiquest q71 crt, I am trying to get it set up in twinview can anyone help?
[11:22] <stdin> gutsy support only in #ubuntu+1
[11:22] <cosmo_> k thanks
[11:22] <newsense07> stdin: if ya know offhand, when will gutsy be released ?
[11:22] <stdin> 18th
[11:23] <newsense07> stdin: if anyone in here i knew you would, thanks
[11:23] <the-erm> Slow downloads that day.
[11:23] <stdin> :)
[11:24] <MementoMori> the-erm: if you use torrents you'll have full speed
[11:24] <X314Z159> torrents \o/
[11:24] <newsense07> stdin: im running gutsy, everything should be normal when its officially released besides slow updates right /
[11:24] <the-erm> MementoMori: did you install from scratch last time there was an upgrade?
[11:24] <stdin> newsense07: yep, just keep updating as normal and you'll get final
[11:25] <newsense07> stdin: i mean as far as my sources.list, shouldnt have to change it right
[11:25] <stdin> newsense07: yeah, same sources
[11:26] <the-erm> adept_manager did a pretty good job last time when I upgraded to feisty last time.
[11:26] <the-erm> That's one think I love about this distro.  You don't have to reinstall from scratch every time there's a release.
[11:27] <the-erm> s/think/thing
[11:29] <Angel_Pri> http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/
[11:29] -Angel_Pri:#kubuntu- http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/
[11:29] <MementoMori_> ;)
[11:29] <MementoMori_> the-erm: I dont like upgrades
[11:29] <MementoMori_> I always install from scratch
[11:29] <spawn57> would any of you recommend an hp all in one to use with linux?
[11:29] <MementoMori_> stdin: it works well now!
[11:30] <kaminix> htop says the kernels eating my CPU. Any reason why this would happend?
[11:30] <Jucato> stdin: wow you're fast
[11:30] <newsense07> stdin is the go to guy
[11:31] <Jucato> yes. I realize that
[11:31] <Jucato> finally I can resign ;)
[11:31] <the-erm> kaminix: I had a similar issue it was a usb issue.
[11:31] <newsense07> lmao, youre the go to guy too
[11:31] <the-erm> I was transferring data to an mp3 player.
[11:32] <the-erm> Nothing showed up on htop.  I removed the mp3 player, and all was ok.
[11:32] <kaminix> Oh... I'm having like 30 torrents linked to two USB-drives. :p
[11:32] <kaminix> Need the USB-drives though. Tricky...
[11:32] <Hamra> is there a way of repairing or rescuing a system, im currently running from the boot CD
[11:33] <MementoMori_> Hamra: it depends from your problem
[11:33] <the-erm> Hamra: Depends how bad you messed it up.
[11:33] <the-erm> Did you delete /boot ?
[11:34] <MementoMori_> Hamra: normally you should (quite often) save all your data
[11:34] <gemidjy> in kubuntu gutsy when multimedia key is pressed (say: volume up/down) a nice progressbar appears which overrides the default (and ugly) kde progressbar...is there patch for KDE somewhere?
[11:35] <newsense07> gemidjy: i thought feistys was nice
[11:35] <stdin> better ask in #ubuntu+1 or #kubuntu-devel about hat
[11:35] <stdin> s/hat/that
[11:35] <gemidjy> stdin: ok, 10x
[11:36] <the-erm> I'm not 100% sure but maybe you could use osdcat and write a script that does it ... It's been soo long.
[11:36] <X314Z159> well.. thats interesting.. when i "mute" the music keeps on playing in my speakers... but it still says "mute on" in the middle of the screen
[11:36] <the-erm> X314Z159: I think you need to change it in kmix
[11:36] <X314Z159> the-erm: probably.. but its still a bit silly :P
[11:37] <naught101> X314Z159: change the master in kmix to PCM or something
[11:38] <dromer> hi all, I'm having a weird thing here: I have 2 hd's one with all system-files, /home and another large partition. the other is just fillpd with movies. now I wanted to remove the 2nd hd and put it in another pc, but when I booted without it I got a root prompt saying I have to install apt o.O   wth is this and how can I boot without this hd
[11:41] <newsense07> vistakiller: i like the nick, just bought vista so i could play cs source and it blows
[11:41] <vistakiller> :P
[11:41] <dromer> newsense07: cs-source plays on XP too doesn't it?:P
[11:41] <X314Z159> dromer: it does
[11:41] <the-erm> It's a good think I don't play games.
[11:42] <dromer> so, anyone on my hd issue? :(
[11:42] <newsense07> dromer: yeah but i never payed for an os and figured id get the latest
[11:42] <Hamra> lucky you, the only thing that keeps me from removing XP, is that im a game addict
[11:43] <X314Z159> newsense07: its ms we are talking about here. do you really think its going to work with xp?
[11:44] <newsense07> X314Z159: trying not to go too far offtopic but i hope the key will work with the older os
[11:44] <Hamra> i live in lebanon, i got xp for 2$, and have an xp keygen :P, let MS die
[11:45] <X314Z159> newsense07: #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:45] <Jucato> !piracy
[11:45] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[11:45] <newsense07> Hamra: sounds illegalo
[11:45] <newsense07> X314Z159: i know the channel, why i said i was going to go too far offtopic
[11:46] <Hamra> ok, sorry
[11:46] <X314Z159> newsense07:  :P
[11:46] <stdin> fyi: discussion of and illegal activity is not welcome in -offtopic either
[11:46] <newsense07> s/was/wasnt
[11:47] <newsense07> X314Z159: my badd
[11:47] <X314Z159> stdin: I think -offtopic counts as a ubuntu channel, so the message kinda said that
[11:48] <stdin> some people don't get it, so I say it explicitly
[11:48] <X314Z159> stdin: true (:
[11:49] <newsense07> i apologize to the channel as i kinda started it sorry
[11:55] <newsense07> is wine the best choice for running ms apps ?
[11:57] <stdin> other than a VM, yeah
[11:57] <X314Z159> my printer programs would not work with wine, made me frustrated.. they had some installthing error
[11:57] <cosmo_> is anyone else getting a slow response from the ubuntu forums and help.ubuntu.com?
[11:57] <newsense07> stdin: whats the other popular wm environment ?
[11:58] <stdin> you mean vm?
[11:58] <newsense07> r/wm/win
[11:59] <newsense07> or emulator, if thats whats its called
[11:59] <stdin> wine is an application compatibility layer, not an emulator
[11:59] <stdin> other than wine, you can install VMWare, VirtualBox or Qemu and start windows in that
[11:59] <the-erm> I wonder if it works with viruses
[12:00] <newsense07> the-erm: i hope so i never had one
[12:00] <the-erm> I use wine for 1 thing, and that's flash.
[12:01] <newsense07> the-erm: when i did tech support for bfg sasser got aroung the wifi netowrk and i was the only one to get the hex key cause i didnt run an ms brand os :)
[12:01] <the-erm> I think it's easy enough to delete the reg files, and reinstall it.  Haven't tried it yet.
[12:01] <stdin> you use wine for flash?
[12:02] <newsense07> the-erm: they have flash for linux
[12:02] <the-erm> They do?
[12:02] <stdin> !flash
[12:02] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:02] <newsense07> the-erm: yes
[12:02] <nobbi> moin moin ihr lieben
[12:02] <the-erm> no not the flash player.  The flash composer.
[12:02] <stdin> !de
[12:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:03] <newsense07> the-erm: might have to use wine for that, not aware of a composer for the best os in the universe(besides unix)
[12:04] <the-erm> My point is ... that's all I use it for.
[12:04] <X314Z159> heh, it always gets me when it says removing wine. :P I'm trying to install VM instead and installing my printersoftware with that
[12:05] <wolfger> morning, all.
[12:05] <wolfger> Anybody else having problems with launchpad this morning?
[12:05] <wolfger> I've been trying to get to various pages on it for about an hour
[12:06] <nobbi> somebody han help me to install a very small linux on a 1,2 GB harddrive?
[12:06] <stdin> wolfger: #launchpad is the place to report that :)
[12:07] <nacholibre> hi folks
[12:08] <wolfger> stdin: thx
[12:12] <newsense07> stdin: thanks again, got wine installed and it works pretty good
[12:12] <jussi01> wolfger: its been slow all morning
[12:15] <newsense07> kde4 not going to be in gutsy on the 18'th is it ?
[12:15] <jussi01> newsense07: no
[12:15] <emilsedgh> newsense07: not even gutsy+1
[12:15] <newsense07> jussi01: sorry probobly a dumb?
[12:16] <jussi01> newsense07: since its only beta 2....
[12:16] <newsense07> jussi01: compiz-fusion ?
[12:16] <jussi01> newsense07: see the link in /topic
[12:16] <jussi01> newsense07: yes
[12:16] <newsense07> jussi01: thanks
[12:16] <jussi01> :)
[12:38] <flavia> hi, any reason why the ubuntu servers are down? can anybody give me a mirror for kubuntu gutsy rc (I suppose it's out)
[12:43] <Daisuke_Ido> for any and *all* things gutsy, go to #ubuntu+1
[12:43] <Hamra> how do i start rescue mode when booting?
[12:47] <ksivaji> Hamra press escape at start up you will see rescue mode
[12:48] <Ash-Fox> Does anybody know how to get XFS to write changes immediately on a specific directory or a mount option that will make it do so? I've looked in the mount manual and I don't see it. Nor can I find it on google.
[01:11] <TimS> Jucato: If I have 2 Hard drives, one blank and one with Linux on, can I install windows on the other and have them Dual Boot?
[01:12] <TimS> 1 hard drive is SATA the other is IDE if that makes any difference
[01:16] <dromer> hmm, I want to add another IDE disk as storage to my current system, but when I boot with the extra hd in it the bootsequence stops right before the login-prompt and I get into tty1 where I get al kinds of errors if I try to type anything
[01:20] <giorgo1> hi guys. One question. Has somthing be changed for an nfs moutning? I canot establish a nfs conection anymore with kubuntu 7.10?
[01:26] <abs0lutek0ld> has anyone here done a sucessfull ftir display on kubuntu
[01:37] <rabx> is it my setup perhaps ? - in Firefox (ubuntu) whilst viewing a u-tube clip, I cannot full screen the clip as I can in ff on my win box
[01:44] <ajsc> hola a todo el mundo, alguien puede leerme??????
[01:53] <pointwood> shouldn't the new X.org that's included in 7.10 feature hotplugging? == if I connect to my HDTV, it should be detected?
[01:56] <abs0lutek0ld> should being the key word.  computers should do many things.  this however is not the case when seen in the light of the real world
[01:58] <martin_> I suppose this "hotplugging"-feature only applies to input devices (mice and keyboards)
[01:58] <pointwood> oh
[01:59] <pointwood> alright
[01:59] <tsdgeos> there is a new xrandr that allows monitor hotplugging
[02:00] <tsdgeos> but afair that's on X.org 7.3 that is not shipped in ubuntu
[02:01] <tony_> Does anyone know how to fix the "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000" error?
[02:01] <pointwood> I thought gutsy would ship with x.org 7.3
[02:02] <tsdgeos> nope
[02:02] <tsdgeos> 7.2
[02:05] <pointwood> ok
[02:05] <pointwood> tsdgeos: wasn't it the plan at some point to use 7.3?
[02:06] <tsdgeos> no idea, but i'm using gutsy and i can tell you i have 7.2 here :D
[02:06] <pointwood> hehe
[02:06] <TimS> !ut2004
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ut2004 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <TimS> :o
[02:06] <pointwood> I'm going to try to upgrade to gutsy when my backup of my home dir finishes
[02:07] <pointwood> and when that fails I'm going to do a clean install :p
[02:19] <sayers> How would I convert a .avi to play on older dvd players
[02:42] <dbglt> is there any compiz type stuff in the kde upgrade to gusty?
[02:43] <tsdgeos> i think not
[02:43] <tsdgeos> not sure
[02:43] <polopolo> Is compiz fusion standard vaalible in kubuntu?
[02:50] <OiPenguin> I'm a new k/ubuntu user exploring the various desktops. I've installed kubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu 7.10 beta. After removing Kubuntu (with sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop if i remember correctly) the update manager now suggest 80 updates which are all KDE-applications. How do I exclude KDE-applications from the update manager?
[02:53] <emilsedgh> OiPenguin: you want to remove all kde applications?
[02:53] <OiPenguin> Yes. I believe I just did that with the above command?
[02:55] <emilsedgh> OiPenguin: no, you should remove kdelibs4c2a package to remove all kde applications i think
[02:56] <OiPenguin> Thanks. I'm searching in synaptic now.
[02:56] <xenol> is there any way i can make my windows transparent as my taskbar?
[02:57] <emilsedgh> xenol: you should enable compositing, best way currently is to install compiz
[02:58] <xenol> emilsedgh: no other option?
[02:59] <emilsedgh> xenol: there is another option, enable compositing, then go to kwin (default window manager for kde/kubuntu) options and turn on special effects
[02:59] <xenol> emilsedgh:  that option is too sluggish for my ati
[02:59] <emilsedgh> xenol: Window ransparency 'Needs' compositing
[03:00] <xenol> emilsedgh: i will stack to beryl then i guess
[03:00] <emilsedgh> xenol: and the taskbar's transparency is not real transparency, thats just like a dirtyu hack
[03:10] <TimS> emilsedgh: If I have a windows partition or windows on a seperate hard disk, is it possible to run this through Virtual Box?
[03:10] <TimS> Or another emulation program
[03:17] <hasse> how to get rid of this error http://pastebin.com/m1013d81f
[03:19] <TimS> !adeptfix
[03:19] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:19] <TimS> hasse: Try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:20] <hasse> still the same if i afterwards try to install another program via apt-get
[03:21] <TimS> Hmm
[03:22] <TimS> Sounds like your missing a system file
[03:22] <hasse> ohhh sh*t
[03:23] <TimS> hasse: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=501195&page=41
[03:23] <TimS> What?
[03:23] <hasse> ohh sh*t to that im missing a system file
[03:23] <TimS> sudo aptitude install linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-10-generic
[03:24] <hasse> i just brought a lenovo t61p, and im trying to get the sound to work, thats where it suddenly happend
[03:24] <TimS> Try: sudo aptitude install linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-10-generic
[03:24] <hasse> i cant install anything
[03:24] <hasse> because of the error
[03:24] <TimS>  sudo aptitude purge linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-10-generic
[03:25] <TimS> That was reccomended
[03:25] <hasse> dosent have aptitude installed
[03:25] <TimS> o.o
[03:25] <TimS> What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[03:25] <hasse> kubuntu 7.10
[03:26] <TimS> It would appear to be a known bug
[03:26] <TimS> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/+bug/138552
[03:26] <TimS> On the bottom post there is a fix for it
[03:26] <TimS> If your feeling brave :P
[03:27] <TimS> Nah, that should work
[03:29] <hasse> that worked, thanks, now i just want to get my soundcard to work..*grr*
[03:29] <hasse>  :)
[03:30] <hasse> anyone have a solution to how to get the soundcard in a t61p lenovo to play
[03:30] <hasse> have tried almost every guide
[03:31] <rogers> ..
[03:32] <sbucatino> hi! i would like lauch a program at the start ( terminal xsetwacom set etc etc ) how i can do ?
[03:32] <emilsedgh_> !autostart | sbucatino
[03:32] <ubotu> sbucatino: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[03:33] <rogers> Can anyone help a linux newb with a codec issue? It's supposedly simple but guides I found are unclear to me.
[03:33] <sbucatino> ubotu: ok i will try thanks a lot
[03:33] <TimS> emilsedgh_:  If I have a windows partition or windows on a seperate hard disk, is it possible to run this through Virtual Box?
[03:34] <TimS> xD @  ubotu: ok i will try thanks a lot
[03:34] <sebi_> how can i play shockwave files in the internet?
[03:34] <emilsedgh_> TimS: dunno :(
[03:34] <sebi_> can anybody send me n link?
[03:34] <hasse> i can see the volume bar , but if i try to play music from xmms, i get this error : "please check that no other program is blocking the soundcard"
[03:34] <TimS> Oki
[03:34] <emilsedgh_> TimS: ubotu is a Bot
[03:34] <TimS> I know :P
[03:34] <emilsedgh_> :D
[03:34] <pag> !shockwave | sebi_
[03:34] <ubotu> sebi_: Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[03:35] <sebi_> cool thanx gonne check ist out
[03:35] <TimS> I diddnt know shockwave was still in use
[03:35] <rogers> How can I install Amarok MP3 support when Amarok always freezes when I try?
[03:35] <emilsedgh_> rogers: install libxine-extracodecs from adept
[03:35] <TimS> !mp3 | rogers
[03:35] <ubotu> rogers: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:36] <rogers> thanks
[03:36] <rogers> now I just have to work on some new player firmware so I can play OGG/FLAC
[03:45] <hasse> when trying to play music , what does "device is busy" means ?
[03:48] <TimS> That something else is usinging the music device
[03:48] <mrksbrd> hasse, something is running in the background that u can't see
[03:48] <TimS> It sometimes happens to me when I play a game and am listening to music
[03:49] <TimS> And it mentions Kio
[03:49] <mrksbrd> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-16709.html
[03:49] <hasse> how to solve the problem ?
[03:50] <TimS> Ctrl - Esc and look for a program that might be running using music, for example totem or amarok and kill it.
[03:50] <TimS> Be carefull what you kill
[03:50] <TimS> You dont want to break anything
[03:51] <hasse> i have to say that i have a lenovo t61p, and kubuntu 7.10, and theres a lot of issues with that setup
[03:51] <hasse> nothing looks like it could make any problems
[03:52] <TimS> !yakuake
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yakuake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <TimS> !info yakuake
[03:52] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB
[03:52] <shadowhywind> so heres a question for you guys this morning. Has there been any major issues updating from feisty to the gusty RC?
[03:52] <mrksbrd> hasse, u shouldn't have any problems w/running on that pc
[03:52] <TimS> shadowhywind: I have heard of a few
[03:53] <shadowhywind> TimS oh? *take out the swap issues that seam to happen on ever update* like what?
[03:53] <mrksbrd> unless the install went haywire, i've found that sometimes you may have to run the install process several x's
[03:53] <hasse> have to say that it's a 7.04 upgrade to 7.10
[03:53] <mrksbrd> to get the perfect one
[03:53] <TimS> I have seen a few been told to ask in -dev
[03:54] <mrksbrd> shadow i'm running gutsy & haven't seen any issues yet
[03:54] <shadowhywind> oh k *maybe i will just wait the week tiill it gets released, hehe
[03:55] <redo86> hello
[03:56] <hasse> i cant get 7.10 to install from scratch, no gui shows up, neither in safe graphics
[03:56] <hasse> so installs 7.04 and upgrade to 7.10 afterwards, could that be the problem
[03:57] <TimS> What graphics drivers are you using hasse
[03:58] <hasse> TimS, when installing from the live cd ?
[03:58] <TimS> Yeah
[03:58] <TimS> Are you on nv or vesa?
[03:58] <hasse> thinks it vesa.
[03:59] <hasse> cant change that on install ?
[03:59] <TimS> If you boot into a terminal
[04:00] <hasse> should it be vesa if i boot the livecd into a terminal
[04:00] <TimS> You can dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:00] <TimS> Oh you cant get any graphics on the live cd
[04:00] <TimS> thats weird
[04:00] <fred__> hello.
[04:01] <ekrengel> yeh im afraid to upgrade to hoary, my ati card will probably go haywire
[04:01] <hasse> when booting on safe graphics, it shows the desktop for 5 secs, and return to bootup screen
[04:01] <fred__> this is my first install of kubuntu. I'd like to know : how to access to root commands ?
[04:01] <hasse> and the xorg.log file, says somethink like, DMI not supported for card
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> !sudo | fred__
[04:01] <ubotu> fred__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:01] <hasse> fred__, sudo file
[04:01] <TimS> fred__: Sudo command
[04:01] <ekrengel> will my xorg.conf change when i upgrade to hoary???
[04:02] <TimS> To hoary??? What are you running at the moment?
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> upgrade to HOARY?
[04:02] <TimS> Brezy?
[04:02] <TimS> Wait that doesnt even work
[04:02] <ekrengel> oops
[04:02] <fred__> ok. but the system didn't asked me to configure a root pass. is it "root" ?
[04:02] <ekrengel> i mean Gutsy
[04:02] <TimS> Feisty surely
[04:02] <ekrengel> my bad
[04:02] <ekrengel> im on fiesty
[04:02] <TimS> Ah, no it shouldnt
[04:03] <TimS> fred__: Its the same as your password
[04:03] <ekrengel> ok
[04:03] <ekrengel> i have it backed up
[04:03] <hasse> i could try to boot the livecd, and check the graphic driver and try vesa if nv, and vice versa
[04:03] <mrksbrd> fred, when u installed the system, it asked for a password, use that
[04:03] <TimS> Not that I am aweare of anyway
[04:03] <ekrengel> but...it took forever to get it working right with my card
[04:03] <fred__> TimS: & mrksbrd : ok thanks
[04:03] <TimS> If its backed up you should be fine
[04:03] <TimS> hasse:
[04:03] <TimS> Go for it
[04:04] <hasse> catch you later ...
[04:04] <hasse> the  dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:04] <TimS> :D
[04:04] <hasse> what does that do ?
[04:04] <TimS> Oh it reconfigures your xorg file
[04:04] <TimS> So you can choose the drivers you use
[04:04] <mrksbrd> the example to get software is sudo apt-get install <file>
[04:04] <hasse> the -phigh ?
[04:05] <TimS> Erm, not sure, but you need it :P
[04:05] <ekrengel> how about vmware?  any issues with that when upgrading?
[04:05] <hasse> hhe okay, ill try, catch you later on .. i hope :)
[04:05] <TimS> Its the way it opens it like ls -r
[04:05] <TimS> Byee  :D
[04:06] <TimS> ekrengel: Possibly, I am not really sure, best place to ask is #kubuntu+1
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> #ubuntu+1
[04:07] <ekrengel> i can't join that
[04:07] <ekrengel> dont have access
[04:08] <TimS> Oh, doesnt kubuntu have its own one?  I don't do that.
[04:09] <TimS> Or your graphics card drivers
[04:09] <e42> TimS, i got ati mobility 9700
[04:10] <e42> TimS, jest they are instaled
[04:10] <TimS> Hmm
[04:10] <ardchoille> Kommander is pretty nice. I've been writing a few kommander scripts from the basg scripts I have written. It's nice to have a small gui for some things.
[04:10] <TimS> !kommander
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kommander - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <TimS> Never heard of it XD
[04:10] <e42> TimS, thats what i get after fglrxinfo in my console
[04:10] <e42> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[04:10] <e42> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[04:10] <e42> OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON 9600
[04:10] <e42> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)
[04:10] <e42> the joke is
[04:11] <e42> i got 9700
[04:11] <e42> not 9600
[04:11] <e42> -.-
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> e42: that doesn't matter.
[04:11] <ardchoille> TimS: It's in the repos:  apt-cache search kommander
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> e42: you need XGL
[04:11] <ardchoille> !info kommander
[04:11] <ubotu> kommander: visual dialog builder and executor tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3800 kB
[04:11] <fred__> sudo chown fred /zzzz/xxx/yyyy/ >>> (how to make it recursive) ?
[04:11] <e42> nosrednaekim, how to do it ;/ ?
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> !xgl
[04:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:11] <ardchoille> fred__: chown -R
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> fred__: -R
[04:11] <fred__> ok ardchoille
[04:12] <ardchoille> fred__: Same option for chmod
[04:12] <e42> ok
[04:12] <fred__> thanks
[04:12] <e42> thx
[04:12] <mrksbrd> TimS, is there an easy way to create an icon & assign it to my external usbhdd?  When I plug it in it will open the drive, but doesn't assign an icon along with it
[04:12] <TimS> I never managed to figure that out. It wont let me change any of mine
[04:13] <fred__> no, harder : the directory /yyy is my old desktop (from mandriva) how to make it my new desktop (on kubuntu) ?
[04:13] <TimS> My phone, for example, only displays the ipod icon and wont let me change it
[04:13] <fred__> now, harder : the directory /yyy is my old desktop (from mandriva) how to make it my new desktop (on kubuntu) ?
[04:13] <Bauldrick> gutsy channel?
[04:13] <fred__> (I forgot the "w")
[04:13] <ardchoille> Bauldrick: #ubuntu+1
[04:13] <nosrednaekim> #ubuntu+1 Bauldrick
[04:13] <mrksbrd> hmmmmm
[04:13] <Bauldrick> ta
[04:15] <fred__> none has an idea ?
[04:16] <mrksbrd> TimS, u running kubuntu?
[04:16] <TimS> Yeah
[04:16] <TimS> 7.04
[04:17] <mrksbrd> k goto the icon u wanna change......right click......properties.......
[04:17] <mrksbrd> then u should see the icon that is assigned....click on that & you should be ale to go thru the menu & pick an icon u want
[04:18] <fred__> think I've found my answer ... let's see that with a reboot :)
[04:18] <TimS> Doesnt work for me mrksbrd
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> fred__: you mean that was your old home dir?
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> TimS: I think you have to change the icon association for the mimetype....
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> IDK how to do that though
[04:21] <mrksbrd> anyone out there tried Linspire?
[04:22] <mrksbrd> lol why?
[04:23] <TimS> Novell are being sued?
[04:23] <TheDude> why isnt pidgin in the repo?
[04:23] <TimS> getdeb has it
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> mrksbrd: cause they struck a deal with M$
[04:24] <Jucato> TheDude: it's in the gutsy repo
[04:24] <TimS> Its in http://www.ansemreport.com/pidgin/repo feisty feisty-backports
[04:24] <TheDude> got ya
[04:24] <TheDude> but why?