[00:13]  * mogitux souhaite une bonne nuit à toutes les IRCiennes et tous les IRCiens
[00:13]  * mogitux is away: ZZzzz...
[01:59] <bazhang> mogitux, disable that please
[05:33] <RickRoller> how do i change my hostname? (the name of the machine on login)
[05:36] <oobiloz> help, i did an update and lost sound
[05:42] <RickRoller> HOW CAN I LIST ALL GROUPS?
[07:19] <ruslan_osmanov> hi. ho do I change the default save directory for abiword?
[07:52] <olbi> hello
[07:52] <olbi> Why when I using Xfce, I cant do Paste from RMC?
[09:18] <_jasonsrus2007> hello, i am looking for a slim, minimal dock, any  recommendations?
[09:19] <olbi> dock like in Mac OS X?
[09:20] <_jasonsrus2007> yes
[09:20] <olbi> http://do.davebsd.com/
[09:22] <_jasonsrus2007> that might work, thanks
[09:43] <ruslan_osmanov> hi. ho do i install libxml in xubuntu?
[09:44] <ruslan_osmanov> there is nothing like libxml-2* within the package list
[09:45] <ruslan_osmanov> whoops. see it. sorry )
[09:46] <olbi> :)
[09:47] <CiPi> sudo  apt-get install libxml2-dev
[09:47] <ruslan_osmanov> isn't is just libxml2?
[09:47] <olbi> yes, it is
[09:48] <CiPi> apt-cache search libxml
[09:49] <CiPi> apt-cache search libxml | grep dev
[09:49] <olbi> open Ubuntu Software Center
[09:49] <olbi> type libxml2 and install it
[09:49] <CiPi> It`s onli 2.
[09:50] <CiPi> only.
[09:50] <ruslan_osmanov> thanks. already got it. i'm trying to build gedit from source. it cannot find libxml: No package 'libxml-2.0' found
[09:50] <ruslan_osmanov> on the configure phase
[09:51] <CiPi> You may need also...
[09:51] <CiPi> sudo apt-get install libxml-libxml-perl
[09:51] <olbi> i prefer geany
[09:51] <olbi> gedit has too much dependicies :P
[09:51] <ruslan_osmanov> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/759058/
[09:52] <CiPi> I prefer nano
[09:52] <CiPi> :)
[09:52] <olbi> you need install of these librariers :D
[09:52] <olbi> all*
[09:52] <ruslan_osmanov> obvious. but they are installed all
[09:54] <ruslan_osmanov> for instance http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/759062/
[09:55] <olbi> you need dev versions :D
[09:55] <olbi> like libxml2-dev
[09:55] <ruslan_osmanov> hmm, indeed. thank you, olbi
[10:08] <Squish000> hi, how long does it take for the logbot to log?
[10:10] <CiPi> How long it takes to get from UK to Romania?
[10:14] <ruslan_osmanov> i need your help guys again. i've an irritating error using snippets in gedit. when i run gedit from terminal, it outputs http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/759078/
[10:17] <ruslan_osmanov> this happens with Russian characters, e.g. стр[Ctrl - space]. "стр" is the tab trigger
[10:19] <CiPi> You need all this packages.
[10:19] <CiPi> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/gedit
[10:20] <ruslan_osmanov> CiPi, checking it out...
[10:23] <CiPi> I`m not sure, but you can also install it by synaptics package manager
[10:23] <CiPi> run synaptic from terminal.
[10:23] <CiPi> Than you have there gedit-dev
[10:24] <CiPi> Type on the search box quick filter - gedit-dev
[10:25] <ruslan_osmanov> CiPi, thanks. just launched the installation
[10:25] <CiPi> Nice. :)
[10:26] <SpiKe_Spiegel> hi all
[10:27] <CiPi> Hi.
[10:27] <SpiKe_Spiegel> Does anyone know what Xfce version will be included in Xubuntu 12.04 "Precise Pangolin" ?
[10:27] <SpiKe_Spiegel> Will it be 4.8 or 4.10 ?
[10:28] <SpiKe_Spiegel> I didn't find any information on the Internet
[10:28] <CiPi> 4.10 I don`t think it was released
[10:28] <CiPi> So it is 4.8
[10:29] <Sysi> 4.10 should be released before release of precise but I'm not sure if it's going to be used
[10:29] <CiPi> The final 4.10 release is scheduled for January 15th 2012. For the second time we try to follow the the release policy, so like in 4.8 you will see frequent development releases of individual components and, most importantly, a time-based release cycle which looks a lot more realistic the the one we had in 4.8.
[10:29] <SpiKe_Spiegel> yep, Xfce 4.10 is going to be release on March 3
[10:30] <baizon> CiPi: you got an old release date
[10:30] <CiPi> I think, yes. :)
[10:31] <CiPi> Schedule
[10:31] <CiPi> 2011-02-13 - 2011-11-05: Development Phase
[10:31] <CiPi> 2011-11-06 - 2012-01-15: Release Phase
[10:31] <CiPi>             2011-11-06: Xfce 4.10pre1 release / Feature freeze
[10:31] <CiPi>             2011-12-04: Xfce 4.10pre2 release / String freeze
[10:31] <CiPi>             2012-01-08: Xfce 4.10pre3 release / Code freeze
[10:31] <CiPi>             2012-01-15: Xfce 4.10 final release
[10:31] <CiPi> Is from the official forum. :)
[10:31] <SpiKe_Spiegel> it has changed
[10:31] <SpiKe_Spiegel> http://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.10/roadmap
[10:31] <CiPi> You are right! :)
[10:32] <SpiKe_Spiegel> the release is nearly 2 months before the next Ubuntu LTS... maybe Xubuntu will keep Xfce 4.8 :(
[10:33] <Sysi> #xubuntu-devel could be better place to ask (be patient if no devs are active)
[10:34] <SpiKe_Spiegel> @Sysi : I'll try asking :)
[10:35] <ruslan_osmanov> CiPi, nah, still the same issue
[10:35] <CiPi> Or die trying. :))
[10:35] <CiPi> Just joking.
[10:36] <CiPi> ruslan_osmanov, I`m sorry. I don`t know what`s with that gedit
[10:37] <ruslan_osmanov> it seems the plugin needs update in order to fit gtksourceview-3.0
[10:38] <CiPi> sudo apt-get update
[10:38] <CiPi> than: sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:39] <SpiKe_Spiegel> Apparently it will be Xfce 4.8
[10:43] <baizon> for now
[10:43] <baizon> but maybe it will made it
[10:43] <baizon> imho i dont think it will
[10:45] <CiPi> ruslan_osmanov, why you don`t give it a try to VIM ?
[10:45] <CiPi> or to GVIM
[10:49] <SpiKe_Spiegel> @baizon : I understand, a LTS has to be stable :p
[10:49] <Sysi> SpiKe_Spiegel: in IRC, hilighting words better when you just have nick first in the line
[10:50] <Sysi> SpiKe_Spiegel: hilighting being what you should notice on your client
[10:55] <SpiKe_Spiegel> Sysi: oops sorry, I will pay attention for that
[10:56] <Sysi> !tab
[10:56] <Sysi> that too, just to make your life easier
[10:56] <SpiKe_Spiegel> thanks !
[12:27] <homebrewcider> I'm streaming video on xubuntu 11.04. anybody know where it's stored temporarily?
[12:28] <olbi> dir tmp I think
[12:28] <Sysi> /tmp or just RAM probably
[12:29] <Sysi> possibly in hidden folder in your home directory (where are settings of app you're using)
[12:29] <homebrewcider> tmp is what I thought , but not there
[12:33] <homebrewcider> hmm, can't find it anywhere
[13:54] <_Pete_> hello
[13:55] <_Pete_> what is this thing that when I download something with firefox, popup apperars saying downloads are ready?
[13:55] <_Pete_> and more over, how to disable it?
[15:44] <Conte-sty> salute non riesco ad attivare i suoni di sistema... consigli?
[15:45] <knome> !it
[15:47] <Conte-sty> sorry :-(
[15:47] <knome> no problem
[15:59] <XWusel> debian
[16:04] <SpiKe_Spiegel> XWusel: tentative de troll ?
[17:51] <BestPig> Hi
[17:54] <baizon> hello
[17:56] <BestPig> I need some help to configure hotkey for the brightness control.
[17:58] <BestPig> My key is reconize has XF86MonBrightnessDown, but when I hit the key, the brightness don't down.
[17:58] <BestPig> xfce need configuration to do this ? (xfce4-power-manager is launched)
[18:14] <teknoduke> hi :) i'm having troubles with firefox in Xubuntu, i dont know why this start so slowwww... firefox takes 2 min for start
[18:17] <Sysi> how much ram do you have?
[18:18] <teknoduke> over 2gb free
[18:18] <GridCube> :)
[18:18] <GridCube> hello
[18:18] <GridCube> whats the problem?
[18:19] <Sysi> slow firefox start
[18:19] <GridCube> mmhm
[18:19] <GridCube> version?
[18:20] <teknoduke> slow firefox start, after its loaded its works perfectly
[18:20] <Myrtti> a lot of extensions?
[18:20] <teknoduke> echofon, ad block, firebug
[18:21] <teknoduke> version 8.0 firefox and xubuntu 11.10
[18:22] <teknoduke> the problem begins after i install java-common i think
[18:23] <teknoduke> i remove java-common and reinstall firefox
[18:23] <teknoduke> but thats not solved the ultra slow starts of firefox
[18:39] <SpiKe_Spiegel> teknoduke, do you have any errors or warnings when you start firefox in a terminal ?
[18:40] <teknoduke> no, i'm not getting any error :/
[18:41] <GridCube> teknoduke, have launched firefox from a terminal?
[18:41] <SpiKe_Spiegel> =D
[18:42] <teknoduke> yes
[18:43] <GridCube> mmkay
[18:44] <SpiKe_Spiegel> and with any other software, you don't have this issue ?
[18:44] <teknoduke> if i try to open new windows of firefox its the same problem its take 4-5 mins to load the new ff window
[18:44] <teknoduke> nop the problem is enterly firefox, but its start after act. xubuntu
[18:44] <TheSheep> teknoduke: try starting it from terminal and see if it prints anything
[18:45] <Sysi> and third, sold
[18:45] <teknoduke> oks
[18:48] <GridCube> teknoduke, http://www.techarraz.com/web-browser/firefox-slow-startup-problems/
[18:49] <teknoduke> reading :)
[18:49] <GridCube> teknoduke, firebug is apparently known for slowing ff very very much
[18:50] <GridCube> also teknoduke http://www.tweakguides.com/Firefox_1.html
[18:50] <teknoduke> yes i know that but it is not the problem
[18:51] <teknoduke> the ff windows is not loaded yet and i start it in the console 5min ago
[18:51] <teknoduke> no errors in the console, and not windows in the desk
[18:51] <TheSheep> teknoduke: you could try stracing it to see what it does
[18:52] <teknoduke> 7 min and ff is loaded in the desk xD
[18:58] <tekno|work> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11496810 <-- here the same problem
[21:38] <StormStrikes> Hey everyone.  Ive developed an issue I cant seem to nail down.  All of a sudden, my CD drive is not working.  It wont eject.  I manually opened it and slapped in a CD to try and burn something to it and the system is not detecting it.  Any ideas?
[21:40] <Mp5shooter> StormStrikes, try opening a terminal and typing mount /dev/cdrom
[21:40] <Mp5shooter> er wait, might've gotten the syntax wrong there
[21:40] <Mp5shooter> try it anyway!
[21:41] <StormStrikes> k, standby
[21:41] <StormStrikes> command not found
[21:41] <Mp5shooter> oh
[21:41] <Mp5shooter> hmm weird
[21:41] <StormStrikes> wait, I did it wrong, lemme try again
[21:42] <StormStrikes> I get the reply, cant find /dev/cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[21:42] <Mp5shooter> hmm
[21:42] <Mp5shooter> cd /dev
[21:43] <Mp5shooter> can you find anything cd related in there
[21:43] <Mp5shooter> cdrom0 or anything?
[21:43] <StormStrikes> I see cdrom
[21:45] <Mp5shooter> not sure :S anyone more experienced, feel free to step in
[21:45] <Mp5shooter> sorry. I tried :P
[21:45] <StormStrikes> Thanks for trying though.
[21:45] <Mp5shooter> no problem
[21:46] <StormStrikes> It weird.  I burned a couple CDs earlier today, older versions of xubuntu and ubuntu to try and test out a few things related to my CPU fan constantly running.
[21:46] <StormStrikes> I booted using a Live CD and when I rebooted the system could not see my CD drive
[21:47] <StormStrikes> Ive rebooted a couple times now trying to see if it was just something hung up, but still no joy.
[21:48] <StormStrikes> Now I cant even boot to the CD..Its just like the drive doesnt even exist
[21:58] <GridCube> cd drive readers sometimes fail like taht
[21:59] <StormStrikes> Anything I can do to fix it?
[22:00] <GridCube> StormStrikes, try "sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom
[22:00] <GridCube> you might need to create /media/cdrom
[22:00] <GridCube> sudo mkdri /media/cdrom should do it
[22:01] <GridCube> mkdir^
[22:02] <StormStrikes> no medium found on /dev/sr0
[22:02] <GridCube> mmhm
[22:02] <GridCube> your system seems to not be able to see your cdrom drive
[22:02] <GridCube> its it a sata drive?
[22:03] <StormStrikes> Everything worked fine until I booted to a LiveCD...after that it just went kaput
[22:03] <StormStrikes> yes, its a SATA drive
[22:03] <GridCube> oh
[22:03] <GridCube> then it should be sd[something]
[22:03] <StormStrikes> scd0 perhaps?
[22:04] <GridCube> sure why not
[22:04] <StormStrikes> LOL
[22:04] <GridCube> never had a sata cdrom :P
[22:06] <GridCube> StormStrikes, run this on a terminal:  cat /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info
[22:07] <StormStrikes> Ohhh, it says the drive name is sr0
[22:07] <GridCube> :D
[22:07] <GridCube> told you so
[22:07] <GridCube> oh right
[22:08] <GridCube> it said "no medium found"
[22:08] <StormStrikes> right
[22:08] <GridCube> well, it seems something broke
[22:08] <GridCube> :P
[22:08] <GridCube> you could like get a new one
[22:08] <StormStrikes> yeah, it would seem so....
[22:08] <StormStrikes> Well its on my laptop...
[22:08] <GridCube> that happens
[22:09] <GridCube> try to see if you can clean the laser? maybe it just cant read
[22:10] <StormStrikes> hmmm, I just noticed the indicator light is on for the CD drive, like it detects a CD in there, but there is none.
[22:11] <StormStrikes> Is there a command to manually eject the CD from terminal
[22:11] <GridCube> yes
[22:11] <GridCube> :P
[22:11] <GridCube> its "eject"
[22:11] <GridCube> no kidding
[22:11] <StormStrikes> LOL, well something are just so simple as to elude one
[22:12] <StormStrikes> k, tried that.  Get eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[22:12] <GridCube> oh
[22:12] <GridCube> that sounds bad
[22:12] <GridCube> try "sudo eject"
[22:12] <StormStrikes> Arent you just full of good news, LOL
[22:12] <StormStrikes> same error message
[22:15] <GridCube> mmhm
[22:16] <GridCube> whats the dump if you use "eject -v" StormStrikes
[22:16] <GridCube> !pastebin
[22:17] <StormStrikes> If Ive done it right it should be at http://paste.ubuntu.com/759836/
[22:19] <GridCube> mmhm
[22:20] <GridCube> StormStrikes, http://moonos.org/forum/8-software-a-applications/416-solved-ioctl-inappropriate-ioctl-for-device
[22:20] <GridCube> are you using an old kernel?
[22:22] <StormStrikes> I was using an older one from the LiveCD.  Booted in to Xubuntu 11.04 and Ubuntu 11.04.  Did not have the issue until I rebooted from using Ubuntu 11.04
[22:23] <GridCube> mmhm does it works on boot then?
[22:23] <StormStrikes> my CPU fan constantly runs and I was told it was due to a kernel bug and that I should be able to use an older version of xubuntu or ubuntu to see if it fixes it.
[22:23] <StormStrikes> No, it wont boot to the CD drive now
[22:24] <GridCube> when you boot at the grub stage you can choose an option, i think its "old versions" or something like that, its the lalst one, and it shows you all the kernels you have to choose to boot from
[22:24] <StormStrikes> Yeah, I remember seeing that.
[22:24] <GridCube> there you should have all the kernels since 11.04 has released
[22:25] <GridCube> choose an older one and see if it still hahppens
[22:25] <GridCube> if it does then its hardware
[22:25] <StormStrikes> Okay, I will give that a shot...
[22:26] <StormStrikes> I will be back shortly.  Will try and boot to the older kernel and see what happens
[22:26] <StormStrikes> Thanks for the help GridCube
[22:26] <GridCube> :) good luck
[23:44] <StormStrikes> GridCube, CD drive is working again
[23:45] <GridCube> :o
[23:45] <GridCube> was the kernel then?
[23:46] <StormStrikes> I cant say for sure.  I had made a LiveUSB, booted back to Ubuntu 11.04, everything went fine, but the CD still didnt work...
[23:46] <StormStrikes> So I rebooted trying to get to the grub menu..
[23:46] <StormStrikes> Could never get the grub menu to come up...so I just went back to the HDD install...ran the sudo eject command again and it popped it out..
[23:48] <StormStrikes> Now I can hit the eject button on the drive and it opens and it mounts blank CDs again.
[23:49] <StormStrikes> So now Im back to trying to solve the constantly running CPU fan issue which I have been told is a kernel bug also...
[23:50] <ball> Don't you /want/ your CPU fan to run constantly?
[23:50] <StormStrikes> No, not really on a laptop.  Particularly when the temps arent high either...kills battery run time
[23:50] <holstein> i have found that to be the graphics driver in the past
[23:51] <StormStrikes> Ive been told that too....
[23:51] <StormStrikes> I do have the Nvidia GT550M graphics card with Optimus...
[23:51] <holstein> the machine im thinking about has VIA chips
[23:52] <StormStrikes> I had thought the fan issue was related to not being able to get a driver to work for the Nvidia.  But I posted on Phoronix and someone there replied and said they were separate issues.
[23:52] <StormStrikes> So I was trying to get the fan to stop running all the time then I was going to tackle the graphics driver again..
[23:53] <StormStrikes> But I got hung up on it all when my CD drive stopped mounting.
[23:53] <StormStrikes> I have a Dell 1750 with Xubuntu 11.10 installed on it and the fan hardly ever turns on on it and I can run around eight solid hours on battery with it..
[23:55] <GridCube> :) good to hear that StormStrikes
[23:55] <GridCube> :/ sadly i
[23:55] <GridCube> know not about the fan things
[23:55] <ball> Perhaps it was a design decision to leave the fan running.
[23:55] <StormStrikes> Yeah.  Ive been told its been fixed in the new kernel...but I didnt want to have to wait until 12.04 to come out...
[23:56] <ball> I wish I could buy a laptop.
[23:56] <Mp5shooter> do you travel
[23:57] <StormStrikes> I had five laptops.  I sold all but two of them..
[23:57] <ball> Mp5shooter: only around the state for work.
[23:57] <Mp5shooter> oh
[23:57] <holstein> StormStrikes: try the mainline kernel
[23:57] <StormStrikes> mainline kernel?
[23:57] <ball> Mp5shooter: Can't afford to travel any further.
[23:58] <holstein> you can dig up a .deb for it, and that'll be easy enough to remove if needed
[23:58] <GridCube> StormStrikes, what kernel are you using?
[23:58] <StormStrikes> lemme check
[23:58] <StormStrikes> 3.0.0-13-generic
[23:59] <GridCube> you could, and this will be dangerous, add the pangolin sourcers, it already has 3.2 kernels
[23:59] <StormStrikes> I was thinking somewhat along those lines...


[00:43] <saltedlight> hi. i wanna install php5-gd on a lamp server, but wen i apt-get install php5-gd it say will install _many_ X packages. why? how can i avoid installing X packages but install _all_ php packages?
[02:11] <pschulz01> Morning.
[02:14] <Ashfire908> Can I install any of the options I get when I'm installing later AND will it give me the same text interface and setup screens for those packages?
[02:15] <Ashfire908> (when installing the ubuntu server edition of course. also i already know the answer to the first part is a yes, but i didn't know how to phrase the second part then)
[02:15] <AtomicSpark> you mean instead of adding "features" during the install, you want to add them later but with a text-biased setup?
[02:15] <AtomicSpark> *based
[02:16] <pschulz01> AtomicSpark: have a look ad dpkg-reconfigure
[02:17] <pschulz01> Are the instructions for setting LDAP authentication setup the same for hardy as gustsy?
[02:17] <Ashfire908> AtomicSpark, with the same setup as you would get installing them wehn in the installer....
[02:17] <AtomicSpark> Ashfire908, there is a new server tool. i forget what it's called. it's the real name for that check list that you get when you first installed.
[02:17] <pschulz01> Ahah.. found instuctions :-) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication
[02:17] <pschulz01> A tthe bottom :-)
[02:18] <Ashfire908> AtomicSpark, i mean i don't want the checklist program
[02:18] <AtomicSpark> Ashfire908, this is frustrating. we were just talking about it the other day. X(
[02:18] <AtomicSpark> it's the program that lets you check which services you want and it auto configures them for you.
[02:18] <yell0w> hey guys I changed the value of /etc/default/console-setup for the ttys to have only tty1-2 active, but all of them are backup after a reboot. any suggestion ?
[02:18] <AtomicSpark> tasksel?
[02:19] <AtomicSpark> yup!
[02:19] <AtomicSpark> Ashfire908, look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel
[02:19] <Ashfire908> i want to know, if i install one of the packages seperalty, via apt-get, after install, will it give me the same propmts as when i would get if i had selected it during install
[02:19] <pschulz01> yell0w: Have a look at '/etc/event.d'
[02:19] <pschulz01> yell0w: remove the tty3-6 files.
[02:20] <AtomicSpark> Ashfire908, that should work for you're talking about what i think you're talking about. :)
[02:20] <Ashfire908> i don't mean the checklist itself.
[02:20] <Ashfire908> i mean the prompts for the package.
[02:21] <Ashfire908> unless they are part of the some thing.
[02:21] <Ashfire908> *same
[02:21] <AtomicSpark> Ashfire908, i think so. i don't remember any prompts when i set up the server from the cd installer.
[02:21] <yell0w> pschulz01: can i just rename them ?
[02:21] <Ashfire908> if you select some it will give prompts...
[02:21]  * Ashfire908 shrugs
[02:21] <Ashfire908> i'll just install.
[02:22] <Ashfire908> need to get this thing running...
[02:23] <AtomicSpark> Ashfire908, i never ran the program myself. that's the only way i know to configure your server with a text menu after you install it. either that or aptitude (which only installs packages, doesnt help configure)
[02:23] <Ashfire908> yea just got a prompt for the mysql root password.
[02:23] <AtomicSpark> good deal.
[02:25] <Ashfire908> after selecting LAMP in tasksel (in the installer)
[02:26] <AtomicSpark> yay i help someone. lol.
[02:26] <Ashfire908> not really.
[02:26] <AtomicSpark> god that annoyed me. i couldn't remember the command.
[02:27] <Ashfire908> it ran tasksel while in the installer on it's own
[02:27] <pschulz01> yell0w: Have a look inside these files.. you might be able to disable them/get them not to start up by default. The name is the name of the service.. not the tty to use.
[02:27] <Ashfire908> that's where i was when i came it
[02:27] <Ashfire908> (in here
[02:27] <AtomicSpark> wonderful. at least you got it working it sounds like.
[02:27] <Ashfire908> i didn't know what it was called though.
[02:27] <pschulz01> yell0w: I'm a newbie to 'upstart' as well.
[02:27] <AtomicSpark> are you setting up a LAMP server?
[02:27] <Ashfire908> yes
[02:28] <AtomicSpark> don't forget to secure it. i just copied the default and made a new "site". then i enabled the new site and disabled the default. make it secure and stuff but still have the default config for example.
[02:28] <AtomicSpark> more here https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html#http-configuration
[02:29] <yell0w> pschulz01: ok
[02:29] <AtomicSpark> indexies and muiltiview are bad. very bad.
[03:11] <pschulz01> Woot! Successful LDAP authentication :-)
[03:12] <pschulz01> .. and it created a home directory..
[03:14] <jomast> fresh install of 8.04 server edition. having trouble with samba sharing.
[03:14] <jomast> The following works ok.
[03:14] <jomast> [QB]
[03:14] <jomast> 	writeable = yes
[03:14] <jomast> 	path = /DATA/QB
[03:14] <jomast> add in the following and it breaks.
[03:14] <jomast> 	valid users = @qb
[03:14] <jomast>
[03:14] <jomast> any thoughts? is samba "broken" in this release our of the box?
[03:30] <pschulz01> jomast: Just about to give it a try..
[03:30] <pschulz01> jomast: How did you install it?
[03:32] <jomast> pschulz01: installed during the OS install
[03:32] <pschulz01> jomast: Ok.. I'm installing the 'samba' package.
[03:36] <pschulz01> Hmm.. it just found an error in my LDAP user list :-/
[03:38] <pschulz01> Let me try that again.. after 'apt-get remove --purge samba'
[03:39] <AtomicSpark> careful with the purge command buddy.
[03:39] <jomast> I've got 4 users....  that need access to the share... all other users are "guests" that should not have access.  i cant even get this to work now... i cant imagine using LDAP.
[03:39] <AtomicSpark> samba should be easy to set up on ubuntu. are you trying to make it pull ldap users?
[03:39] <pschulz01> jomast: :-) NP.. I'm just working through the install now..
[03:40] <AtomicSpark> jomast, set it to inherit ACLs and put them al in a group and set that folder's owner as that group.
[03:41] <AtomicSpark> they should have an example of a basic share imo. not just printers and home folders.
[03:45] <jomast> AtomicSpark: that's been done.  my problem is that i can not access the share remotely when any share level access restrictions (ie: specific groups or users).  The share is simply not accessable.  errors are given on the client side.
[03:47] <AtomicSpark> jomast are you a member of the group that has permissions on it?
[03:47] <jomast> yes
[03:49] <AtomicSpark> and remotely means from another client or over a wan link?
[03:49] <jomast> in theory when the share is accessed, the user should be prompted for user/pass... or at the least, denied access due to invalid permissions....  however all i'm getting is an error connecting (osx and winxp clients)
[03:50] <jomast> multiple clients on the same lan.
[03:50] <AtomicSpark> very interesting.
[03:50] <AtomicSpark> do you have secuirty set to user?
[03:51] <AtomicSpark> like security = user in the smb.conf
[03:56] <jomast> security = share level
[03:57] <AtomicSpark> hmm. i think it should be user. i believe the choices are user, ldap, etc.
[03:57] <AtomicSpark> user means they have to have a unix account for each samba user
[03:57] <AtomicSpark> did you remember to set samba passwords for each user?
[03:58] <AtomicSpark> smbpasswd +a username
[03:58] <jomast> yes.
[03:59] <jomast> switching to "user"  level security
[03:59] <AtomicSpark> alright do that and restart samba. see if that fixes for ya.
[04:00] <jomast> same results (i almost got my hopes up)
[04:00] <AtomicSpark> hmm
[04:00] <jomast> this should be simple easy
[04:00] <AtomicSpark> did you edit the default smb.conf? or got it from somewhere else?
[04:00] <AtomicSpark> you're running this on ubuntu server correct?
[04:01] <jomast> edited the default... first with webmin... now i've gone to manual for fear that webmin was screwing me
[04:01] <jomast> yes... ubuntu server
[04:01] <AtomicSpark> webmin should be okay as long as you don't install packages with it.
[04:02] <jomast> amen
[04:02] <AtomicSpark> webmin might of changed all of it though. i can paste the default if you wish.
[04:02] <jomast> i was just about to strip the conf down to bare minimum...
[04:03] <AtomicSpark> heh. that's not always the best idea. i'm not sure what some of the settings do.
[04:04] <AtomicSpark> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10144/
[04:04] <jomast> dont worry.... just a test run... i made a backup
[04:04] <AtomicSpark> that's the one for ubuntu 8.04
[04:04] <AtomicSpark> i make backups of all the configs if i edit ;)
[04:05] <jomast> yeah... that killed it all together
[04:06] <jomast> back to the defaults
[04:06] <AtomicSpark> to get it to work for me, i changed workgroup, uncommented security = user, then add the share to the bottom
[04:06] <AtomicSpark> i really wish they would add a sample for a share on there.
[04:07] <AtomicSpark> i think you only need path, read only no, browsable yes, and guest ok no for a simple share
[04:08] <AtomicSpark> it should pull permissions from the folder's permissions. :-\
[04:08] <AtomicSpark> oh by default it creates files with permissions of 700. if you want that changed then you gotta add create mask = 755 or something.
[04:08] <jomast> making the adjustments.... standby for results
[04:09] <AtomicSpark> i ment 0755. need to get the sticky bit off.
[04:12] <jomast> heh..... same results
[04:13] <AtomicSpark> are you using a firewall?
[04:13] <jomast> no.
[04:13] <AtomicSpark> very odd.
[04:14] <jomast> i can access shares on the server
[04:14] <jomast> but they have to very plain
[04:14] <jomast> it only breaks when the stipulations for specific users or groups are added
[04:16] <AtomicSpark> hmm. donno what to tell you sorry.
[04:17] <AtomicSpark> are you on the same workgroup?
[04:17] <AtomicSpark> is it set to the right one? lol
[04:17] <jomast> yeah man
[04:17] <jomast> everything you've suggested are things i've already gone through.... and/or would have suggested to others
[04:18] <AtomicSpark> haha. well you never know. hate for it to be something simple you missed.
[04:18] <jomast> i was hoping there was somebody who knew something i didn't
[04:18] <jomast> maybe i can pop in my old fedora config file and see if that makes it jive
[04:18] <AtomicSpark> that may work.
[04:18] <jomast> (server was fedora 6 yesterday.... today ubuntu)
[04:19] <jomast> cant make it any worse!
[04:19] <AtomicSpark> my teacher joked about using the suse gui to set up the config files then copying it to ubuntu.
[04:19] <AtomicSpark> he likes suse wayyy to much.
[04:20] <jomast> i've always been a redhat/fedora guy...  but needed to get this server updated... and didn't want to wait for fedora 9 next month... so ubuntu 8 seemed like the thing to try
[04:21] <AtomicSpark> fedora was okay. of course the last time i used it was around fedora 4. i'm sure it's better now.
[04:21] <AtomicSpark> it being just a test bed for red hat kindof irks me though. i used to use cent os for servers.
[04:22] <AtomicSpark> the repo for ubuntu is great though. don't have to worry about adding a bunch of them and putting in priorities. making sure yum wont crap up your system.
[04:23] <jomast> nice
[04:23] <AtomicSpark> and then there is suse. it has no repos. haha.
[04:24] <jomast> dependancy nightmares.... oh the inhumanity
[04:25] <AtomicSpark> yes.
[04:28] <jomast> ok.... old config file inserted.... file paths updated....  it does the same thing!!!  i'm starting to think that this samba build is 'broken'
[04:30] <AtomicSpark> on 8.04? it works on mine. :P
[04:31] <jomast> let me check the filesystem acls etc.... again... .....
[04:31] <AtomicSpark> ls -al
[04:33] <jomast> drwxrwxrwx  6 root   root     4096 2008-05-04 18:40 .
[04:33] <jomast> drwxr-xr-x 21 root   root     4096 2008-05-03 17:49 ..
[04:33] <jomast> drwxrwsrwx  2 nobody nogroup  4096 2008-05-04 20:51 ISO
[04:33] <jomast> drwxrwsrwx  2 nobody nogroup  4096 2008-05-04 20:18 MOVIES
[04:33] <jomast> drwxrwsrwx  7 nobody qb_group 4096 2008-05-03 23:17 QB
[04:33] <jomast> drwxrwsrwx 12 nobody nogroup  4096 2008-05-03 23:14 STUFF
[04:34] <jomast> the share to "STUFF" works fine..... well it did
[04:34] <jomast> QB worked fine until i put in the network level restrictions (qb_group only)
[04:36] <AtomicSpark> um. i don't think those should be nobodies. :P
[04:37] <AtomicSpark> probably root for user and the group that you set for permissions for the group.
[04:37] <AtomicSpark> qb = quickbooks?
[04:37] <jomast> qb = quickbooks
[04:38] <jomast> root or nobody... made no differance
[04:39] <jomast> alternetivly i've changed from allowing only a certain group to only allowing certain users......  same deal.
[04:40] <AtomicSpark> hmm
[04:40] <AtomicSpark> if it wasn't the weekend. i'm sure there would be more then just us paying attention to this room.
[04:41] <jomast> lol... you mean i get to have this conversation all over again tomorrow??
[04:43] <AtomicSpark> probably
[04:47] <jomast> oh well.... that's enough banging my head on the wall for one day.  thanks for the help!
[04:47] <AtomicSpark> welcome
[07:04] <imyousuf> Hi. I want to setup a server for my network which will solely serve the purpose to act as a Ubuntu Package Repo server. I want to know which is the best way to achieve it? apt-cacher or apt-mirror?
[07:04] <nijaba> imyousuf: I've found apt-mirror really easy to use
[07:05] <imyousuf> ah ok
[07:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> imyousuf, will you need to work offline?
[07:05] <imyousuf> yes
[07:05] <imyousuf> Actually Kamping_Kaiser I am working with a 100kbps line
[07:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> then you'll need to make a full mirror, not just cache
[07:05] <imyousuf> and want to update from 7.04->7.10->8.04
[07:05] <imyousuf> so its a huge download
[07:05] <imyousuf> and I will be performing this in 3 machines
[07:06] <imyousuf> sorry 3 desktops and 3 servers
[07:06] <imyousuf> thus I want to save as much BW as possible
[07:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> then you'd probably want a caching proxy proxy
[07:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> -casher will probably work (i use http-replicator myself)
[07:06] <nijaba> well mirroring for 3 version = about 40-60 Go
[07:07] <imyousuf> thats not a problem
[07:07] <nijaba> so I agree with Kamping_Kaiser that caching is what you want
[07:07] <imyousuf> the mirror server has 400G space
[07:07] <nijaba> yes but with yor line it will tka a long time
[07:07] <imyousuf> and I intend to use it as a Ubuntu Mirror/Cacher and Maven Cacher
[07:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> imyousuf, its a problem because you have to download it ...
[07:08] <imyousuf> yes, I will have to do it whether I use a cacher or mirror
[07:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> 100k/s is 50mb/hr
[07:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> so your looking at about amonth of solid downlaoding
[07:08]  * nijaba is mixing letters a lot....  not been using a keyboard for a while
[07:08] <imyousuf> so my plan is upgrade one first and then upgrade the others, I wont be doing multiple upgrades simultaneously
[07:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> nijaba, *waves*
[07:10]  * nijaba waves back (and that's cool cause he was sailing)
[07:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> nice
[08:23]  * delcoyote hi
[08:25] <ctx144k_> hello all, how can i chance the default-charset von apache2 to iso8859-15?
[08:25] <ctx144k_> and how can i check that the apache willbe use that
[09:13] <cder> just wondering if hardy is now ready to use in a production environment?
[09:14] <hattrick> anybody using munin on hardy?
[09:14] <hattrick> munin isn't working out of the box on hardy???
[09:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> munin?
[09:15] <Asad2005> i have created a bond0 of eth1 and eth2 then i change the mode to5 instead of 4 how do i reinitialize it to take my new setting i tried restart networking and ifonfig down/up no use
[09:17] <Jeeves_> Asad2005: Shut the bond0
[09:17] <Jeeves_> rmmod bonding
[09:17] <Jeeves_> modprobe bonding <options here>
[09:17] <Jeeves_> (AFAIK)
[09:18] <Asad2005> ok i will try
[09:22] <dweerf> is hardy ready for a production environment?
[09:23] <Jeeves_> dweerf: You might expect so
[09:23] <Jeeves_> It was released last week
[09:23] <Deeps> depends on your definition of 'ready' and 'production environment', heh
[09:24] <dweerf> well to be specific useing the xen kernel
[09:24] <Deeps> hehe, no, not out of the box
[09:25] <dweerf> i thought not
[09:25] <Deeps> fixes are available, if you search launchpad for the relevant bugs
[09:25] <Deeps> i believe the fix is to be integrated at 8.04.1
[09:25] <Deeps> i hope i'm wrong though
[09:25] <Deeps> it'll be a couple of months at least though, as whatever fix is applied needs proper testing
[09:26] <dweerf> thing is ubuntu ok in some respects but i have to say it debian etch rocks
[09:26] <Deeps> meh, same thing different name, mostly
[09:27] <dweerf> diffrence is it tends to work better
[09:27] <Deeps> aside from this xen issue, i've not seen anything to tell them apart
[09:28] <dweerf> so you think xen is the ONLY issue
[09:28] <Deeps> although in neither case have i attempted to do an upgrade between releases, thanks to debian's less than stellar record with that
[09:28] <Deeps> no, i'm sure ubuntu has more issues, and i know debian does too
[09:29] <Deeps> the removal of binary blobs for device drivers for one, making debian incompatible with my dell kit featuring broadcom nic's is a bit of a pita
[09:29] <dweerf> yes thats true but i expect debian is tested  more
[09:29] <Deeps> definately, due to the slower release cycle
[09:30] <Deeps> thats why i'm not planning on touching hardy until ibex is out, heh
[09:30] <dweerf> but tends to have a slight advantage of being more soild
[09:30] <Deeps> no need, dapper's still supported for a long time anyway
[09:31] <hattrick> Kamping_Kaiser: do you know Munin?
[09:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> no i was wondering what it is
[09:32] <hattrick> did you find out already?
[09:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> !info munin
[09:33] <phil_> thats a bummer hattrick :/
[09:33]  * Kamping_Kaiser should have thought of that first
[09:33] <phil_> always loved that out-of-box feeling for munin
[09:34] <Asad2005> Jeeves_, i have done what u siad removed bonding and modeprobe it again but it is failed, i have followed this how to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LinkAggregation to create it except last item in configuration which seems not required for hardy. Do i have to change something  other than mode=5 instead of mode=4
[09:38] <phil_> i'll do a dist-upgrade now and check if munin works for me :)
[09:48] <Jeeves_> Asad2005: Nope, afaik not
[09:58] <_ruben> crap .. forgot how i created my snmp v3 user account last time .. snmpv3 is annoying :p
[10:15] <hattrick> phil_: can you help me out?
[10:17] <phil_> I'm still downloading ~30min
[10:17] <phil_> but does it give you any error while installation/configure is running?
[10:19] <hattrick> no
[10:19] <hattrick> it just doesn't work
[10:31] <rgl> hi
[10:31] <rgl> which gcc version was used to build the linux-image-server kernels?
[10:32] <rgl> oh... nm... its in dmesg!
[11:18] <jonah> hi i know this is more about running an ubuntu server but i wanted to ask a few simple questions about my work. i work in a photography shop, we do special effects so have to save big tiff files of around 80mb with lots of layers etc. we wondered if we could get a central server for our 3 processing computers but are worried about save and load speeds, also accessing from home - how would you go about it? does ethernet limit the speed etc? i don't know
[11:18] <jonah> much about it really but we need to open and save files quickly when customers are waiting for their photos
[11:22] <soren> jonah: With gigabit ethernet, the network itself won't be much of a bottlenect.
[11:22] <soren> bottleneck, even.
[11:22] <soren> Accessing from home is likely to be rather painful, though.
[11:25] <hattrick> phil_: i got an error now
[11:25] <hattrick> cp: accessing `/var/www/munin/': Permission denied
[11:25] <hattrick> : Permission denied Cannot open /var/www/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain-apache_processes.html at /usr/share/munin/munin-html line 488.
[11:25] <phil_> hm strange
[11:25] <phil_> did you also do a dist-upgrade?
[11:26] <phil_> and what are owner/group settings for /var/www/munin?
[11:26] <hattrick> yes i did
[11:26] <hattrick> munin:munin
[11:26] <jonah> soren, is there anyway round accessing from home or is it just broadband providers aren't quick enough?
[11:27] <soren> jonah: Yeah.
[11:28] <soren> jonah: I've got a rather beefy 20 Mbit/s connection, and even then, it'll be at least ~40 seconds to download a photo.
[11:28] <phil_> hattrick: according to my /etc/cron.d/munin munin-cron is run as user munin (but this is from a etch machine)
[11:29] <hattrick> phil_: same here
[11:29] <hattrick> so what's wrong with the permissions?
[11:29] <hattrick> i can't grasp it
[11:30] <jonah> soren, hmm that's a shame, we wanted to try work from home. like one guy down the studio doing the shoot, another man at home processing and sending the photos back with special effects for print out and collection of customer, but i spose upload speed on home ISP would be even worse. and i only have a 5mb connection
[11:31] <phil_> hattrick: directories are 755 and files are 644
[11:37] <hattrick> yeah
[11:37] <hattrick> i guess munin on ubuntu just sucks
[12:02] <phil_> hattrick: seems as my munin installation is still working after hardy upgrade: "This page was generated by Munin version 1.2.5 at 2008-05-05 T 13:00:34 (UTC)"
[12:03] <phil_> hattrick: but I'm using ubuntu-desktop here. and it was just a basic installation of munin + munin-node (no config changes etc)
[12:55] <roshan_s> I'm having trouble with IP forwarding since upgrading from feisty to gutsy (and then to hardy). My external interface is ppp0. IP forwarding works fine when the internal interface is eth0, but not when it's a bridge. This exact setup worked fine in feisty. Has anyone experienced a problem like this?
[13:38] <_ruben> hrm .. postfix-pcre in hardy isnt upgraded, its still the gutsy version and thus wont install in hardy
[13:38] <_ruben> !info postfix-pcre
[13:38] <_ruben> wtf
[13:38]  * _ruben slaps his (local) mirror
[13:39] <_ruben> haha .. oops, messed my sources.list .. *slaps forehead*
[13:41] <CrypTom> hi all, how do you analyze your logfiles? logwatch? by hand with tail/less? I'm looking for a tool that creates nice webpages or pretty mails
[13:41] <faulkes-_> logwatch generally does a good job
[13:43] <sommer> happy monday all
[13:43] <CrypTom> but the output is not that pretty and I have several servers, is there no way to get one website containing the analyzed logs from all servers
[13:46] <spiekey> hi
[13:47] <spiekey> can anyone recommend a nice X-change project (such as OpenXchange or Group-e) ?
[13:48] <spiekey> i am looking for one with the focus on calendar (sharing), webmail and sync with mobile devices
[13:51] <_ruben> CrypTom: for email we are using SEC (simple event correlator) .. if you want a nice webinterface: splunk
[13:54] <keb> The upgrade aborts now. Your system could be in an unusable state. A recovery will run now (dpkg --configure -a).
[13:54] <keb> how do i resume the upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04 ?
[13:55] <CrypTom> _ruben: thanks, I will look at those tools!
[13:59] <CrypTom> spiekey: we you zimbra, very nice!
[14:01] <CrypTom> spiekey: there is an opensource (free) version, without mobile support, but the network version (costs) has mobile support (blackberry, etc.)
[14:01] <spiekey> thanks!
[14:02] <\sh> keb, apt-get dist-upgrade again, or dpkg --configure -a first :)
[14:03] <keb> thanks.  dpkg --configure -a didnt output anything
[14:09] <keb> hmmm it says it is already done.
[14:10] <keb> i guess it is time to reboot and see whether it worked
[14:15] <keb> can't ssh to the box. i'll have to go there and see what state it is in
[15:18] <sommer> wow, turbogears is kinda awesome... who knew :)
[15:18] <apadilla> hello, is there a way for me to verify when a  package was removed on a gutsy server?
[15:19] <sommer> apadilla: you can do dpkg -l | grep package_name
[15:21] <apadilla> i get some package info but not when it was removed.
[15:22] <apadilla> its been reinstalled though, that could mess that up I guesws
[15:23] <sommer> apadilla: woops I misread your question... for *when* you can check /var/log/apt/term.log, that might give you more information
[15:24] <sommer> there are also past log file in the directory that may also contain the info
[15:25] <apadilla> excuse me, I also put forward some incorrect information. its actually a dapper server.
[15:26] <apadilla> don't have /var/log/apt/
[15:26] <apadilla> I'm starting to suspect this box has been owned
[15:27] <apadilla> when a package is removed though apt its configuration files are kept, right?
[15:27] <apadilla> unless you do a --purge
[15:28] <apadilla> the package that was removed is logwatch
[15:29] <sommer> apadilla: correct, only using a --purge will remove the configs
[15:29] <Deeps> hf reinstalling, heh.
[15:38] <victoruiz> hi
[15:39] <victoruiz> could sb help me, please?
[15:39] <victoruiz> I think it's so easy to solve
[15:40] <ScottK> victoruiz: Your odds of getting your question answered go up if you actually ask it.
[15:40] <victoruiz> ;)
[15:41] <victoruiz> the fact is that I'm working actually with ubuntu-server 8.10
[15:42] <victoruiz> and i can't access remotely by mean of JMX protocol started on port 9095
[15:42] <victoruiz> I don't know if there is any security system like 'selinux'
[15:43] <ScottK> selinux is not installed by default.  apparmor is.
[15:43] <victoruiz> but... i need access it, and at the moment it's impossible
[15:43] <victoruiz> apparmor is installed?
[15:43] <ScottK> Yes.
[15:43] <victoruiz> ok
[15:43] <ScottK> apparmor should be compatible with Ubuntu packages.  If it's not, it's a bug.
[15:43] <victoruiz> and do you think it could be the problem cause i didn't change the configuration by default
[15:44] <ScottK> It'd help if I knew what JMX protocol was.
[15:44] <ScottK> What package provides that?
[15:45] <victoruiz> i'm developing a java app with Spring framework, that allows export all functions on JMX
[15:46] <victoruiz> that's enough? :S
[15:46] <ScottK> OK.  As soon as you say Java, I know I'm not the one to answer your question.
[15:47] <victoruiz> but do you think it's the problem? I installed correctly the app
[15:47] <ScottK> I have no idea.
[15:47] <victoruiz> and I can see that the server is listening the port i opened for JMX to
[15:48] <victoruiz> i installed in some other platforms but not ubuntu server and it worked well, this is because i thought it was something related with security on ubuntu server
[15:50] <victoruiz> anyway Scottk
[15:51] <victoruiz> in apparmor status, i can see I have no profiles or processed loaded, enforced or complained
[15:53] <ScottK> Then I'd guess that's not it.
[16:03] <nealmcb> victoruiz: do you have a firewall running?
[16:04] <\sh> victoruiz, could it be, that it listens on <IP_ADDRESS>:<port you defined> and not on any other interface ip?
[16:05] <\sh> anyways..heading home...cu later
[16:26] <victoruiz> hi again
[16:27] <victoruiz> there is no firewall running
[16:27] <victoruiz> outgoing traffic is ok, but looks like the server doesn't accept incomming connections to port 9095
[16:30] <ogra> does it respond to: telnet localhost 9095
[16:30] <ogra> ?
[16:30] <ogra> on the server
[16:30] <victoruiz> yes
[16:30] <victoruiz> and remotely too
[16:30] <AtomicSpark> telnet? -_-
[16:31] <ogra> AtomicSpark, awesome tool to check ports :)
[16:31] <victoruiz> yes
[16:31] <victoruiz> it responds to telnet remotely and executing telnet on the same server
[16:33] <victoruiz> and in JMX client appears that is trying to connect to other machine than I'm entering as destination
[16:34] <victoruiz> i.e.: I'm trying to connect to <IP_ADDRESS> really
[16:34] <victoruiz> and in logs appears... : java.rmi.ConnectException: Connection refused to host <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:34] <victoruiz> :|
[16:35] <victoruiz> it's working well in any other machines, it's not a SW error
[17:10] <jay2> what languge from you _ruben hehe
[18:48] <zul> mathiaz: ping what are you doing for all of those samba ucf upgrade error bugs?
[19:10] <mathiaz> zul: trying to figure out what the users are doing
[19:10] <mathiaz> zul: are they closing the window ? are they accepting the change ?
[19:20] <zul> mathiaz: *sigh* ok :)
[21:13] <cody-somerville> Hey
[21:14] <cody-somerville> I setup a local DNS server and I setup the router to use it as the primary DNS server but the computers on my network aren't happy because my DNS server is sending them the result directly instead of sending it to the router to send to them.
[21:14] <cody-somerville> I get the following error when I try to use dig:
[21:14] <cody-somerville> ;; reply from unexpected source: <IP_ADDRESS>#53, expected <IP_ADDRESS>#53
[21:14] <Deeps> if your router provides dhcp for your network, tell it to change the dns server it advertises to be .105 instead?
[21:15]  * cody-somerville looks.
[21:17] <cody-somerville> Ah, I just have to disable DNS relay in the router.
[22:42] <Leperquorn> Hi all... Using Ubuntu-server 6.06... I just tried tasksel... It doesn't seem to be there?
[22:55] <CrOOgie> hello everyone... i have one question... maybe you can help me.
[22:57] <CrOOgie> so i've installed on my desktop ubuntu server and on laptop ubuntu normal, desktop edition ;) i have external ip so i tried to run own server...
[22:57] <CrOOgie> on my router i've set portforwarding in 80 port to IP that have my ubuntu-server
[22:58] <CrOOgie> installed apache2 etc
[22:58] <CrOOgie> and... when i try to access by 192.168... it's all works
[22:59] <CrOOgie> but when i try my external IP its telling me that: "Forbidden... You don't have permission to access / on this server."
[23:00] <CrOOgie> any ideas ?
[23:01] <Deeps> chances are you're hitting your router rather than your ubuntu machine
[23:01] <Deeps> remove the portforward and try again to confirm that
[23:04] <CrOOgie> hmm.. ok but how can router know that where server is without set forwarding ?
[23:07] <Deeps> the router is probably listening on port 80
[23:07] <Deeps> and you're getting an error from the router
[23:07] <Deeps> if you remove the port forward and still carry on getting that error, you know the problem is your router, not your apache config