[03:53] <tywashere> yea...
[03:53] <danbhfive> christopher: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/[package_name].prerm
[03:53] <chrispitzer> sounds dangerous.  I'll give it a shot.
[03:53] <rnartos> usr13:  its chmod 755 and contains  #!/bin/sh  scripts...
[03:53] <ajehals> Jackaruto - it depends what is broken - i all the data is on the disk and just the bootloader has gone then you can repair the bootloader (does ubuntu allow you to do that in rescue mode?) if everything is gone then I suggest... investigating what's broken or changing the hardware or the OS.
[03:53] <rnartos> usr13: tried to run it several times before adding in crontab
[03:54] <Jackaruto> ajehals as far as I can tell all the data is still there
[03:54] <corey> I forgot the password for my router. If I press the reset button could I lose internet connection?
[03:54] <tywashere> Scunizi It is a SATA drive...
[03:55] <lianimator> corey: yes.
[03:56] <chrispitzer> still no love
[03:56] <ajehals> Jackaruto - then something is blowing awa your bootloader (which should be sat in the MBR of whatever disk you are booting from...) that is easily replaceable - I suggest taking a look in the forums for a how-to, it is common.
[03:56] <danbhfive> christopher: same error?
[03:56] <chrispitzer> "subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2"
[03:56] <corey> lianimator: is it easy to restore for anovice?
[03:56] <Scunizi> tywashere: there's a couple of things that I can think of that might work.. these are the only two things that I can come up with .. there's probably lots more.. but first you might be suffering the "bug" with reading some harddrives architecture.  the second is much easier to test.  on the first screen that comes up on the live cd, hit f6 and erase "quiet splash" from the end of the kernel line and add "pci=nomsi" then hit enter and attemp
[03:56] <Jackaruto> ajehals the boot loader is there
[03:56] <chrispitzer> and ... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:56] <Jackaruto> it never moves
[03:56] <danbhfive> christopher: can you install pastebinit?
[03:57] <Jackaruto> but just in case I've sudo grubed it a few times
[03:57] <Jackaruto> but it never will reboot wiht out a full install
[03:57] <Pirate-King> can someone help me with a small problem
[03:57] <ajehals> Jackaruto - how did you check? - given that the bios seems not to be initialising it...
[03:57] <tywashere> do I restart me pc to get back to the startup screen? xD
[03:57] <tech0007> !ask | Pirate-King
[03:57] <Scunizi> tywashere: yes
[03:57] <lianimator> corey: if you remember your current configuration, you shouldn't have a problem.
[03:58] <tywashere> okay
[03:58] <tywashere> I shall be back
[03:58] <tywashere> alright?
[03:58] <lianimator> corey: meaning, do you remember your internet username and password?
[03:58] <karstensrage> can anyone tell me if there is something that cleans out /tmp periodically on ubuntu?
[03:58] <Scunizi> It's non distructive and easy to try.
[03:58] <Jackaruto> I check by using a live disk to read my HD and then looked at root/setup
[03:58] <corey> lianimator: I dont have one. All I have to do is connect a catv cable
[03:58] <tech0007> karstensrage: tmp clears every reboot
[03:58] <karstensrage> ack
[03:58] <karstensrage> i dont want reboots
[03:59] <danbhfive> christopher: ??  I gota go soon
[03:59] <karstensrage> ok tech0007 thank you
[03:59] <karstensrage> that helps
[03:59] <Jackaruto> ajehals you know ./boot/grub/stage1 etc
[03:59] <lianimator> corey: that, I'm not sure off.
[04:00] <Pirate-King> how do you change the skype launcher inthe main menu to point to screenskype.sh?
[04:00] <tech0007> Pirate-King: gnome or kde?
[04:00] <Pirate-King> gnome
[04:01] <lianimator> corey: if your cable connection doesn't require any setup, then you're good to go.
[04:01] <corey> lianimator: I would really like to try and brute force the password. I want to see what it would take for a script kiddie to hack my router.
[04:01] <lianimator> corey: you might have to turn on wireless in your router, or something like that
[04:01] <anahata> is this the room to ask about good ubuntu books or should i go to offtopic?
[04:02] <Scunizi> anahata: ubuntupocketreference.com or something like that.. also check www.scribd.com
[04:02] <anahata> i mean which room is good on irc to ask about ubuntu books... the library doesn't have ubuntu pocket reference
[04:02] <anahata> one sec
[04:02] <bullgard4> anahata: I don't think that this question should go to #ubuntu-offtopic. --  I know only a recommendable book in German.
[04:02] <Scunizi> anahata: it's downloadable.
[04:03] <Pirate-King> how do you change the skype launcher in the main menu to point to screenskype.sh? in gnome
[04:04] <tech0007> Pirate-King: r-click on main menu -> edit menu
[04:04] <aetheria> i'm running fsck.ext2 on an external usb drive and getting this: "HTREE directory inode 6930433 has an invalid root node.  Clear HTree index<y>?"  Does anyone know if that will cause any damage?
[04:06] <lekremyelsew> whats the package for the theme manager
[04:07] <maxagaz> where is the user config of pidgin in Hardy ?
[04:07] <anahata> Scunizi: i want a paper book, i can't spend too much time reading online for various reasons... so if i can get paper, then it helps me
[04:08] <lstarnes> maxagaz: ~/.purple/
[04:08] <Scunizi> anahata: look at the web site. it's orderable in paper
[04:08] <anahata> Scunizi: it's ok, i'm just about to ask about books that are already in the library, not books to order online, thanks
[04:09] <anahata> the books are: Ubuntu unleashed, A practical guide to Ubuntu Linux, The Official Ubuntu book, Ubuntu Linux toolbox, Official Ubuntu book, Ubuntu Linux Bible, Beginning Ubuntu Linux: from novice to professional... just wondering if anyone thinks any of these are good for beginners
[04:10] <miloman> hi i was wondering if the virtual memory would be set to its max or how i can get to it
[04:11] <Scunizi> anahata: I enjoyed Beginning Ubuntu Linux..
[04:12] <TimReichhart> hi guys I need some help on fixing a problem with nagios3 I already posted this on the forums and it seems im not getting any help but here is the post on the forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1093018
[04:12] <anahata> Scunizi: oh, ok
[04:13] <miloman> does anyone know how to see if the virtual memory is set at its max or how i can change it
[04:13] <usser> miloman, what virtual memory? to what max?
[04:13] <Pirate-King> hanks for the awesome workaround - but i found it a bit annoying to have a terminal open to run skype.
[04:13] <Pirate-King> I made two executable scripts in ~/bin/skype.
[04:13] <Pirate-King> ScreenSkype.sh
[04:13] <Pirate-King> Code:
[04:13] <Pirate-King> #!/bin/sh
[04:13] <FloodBot1> Pirate-King: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:13] <Pirate-King> screen -d -m ~/bin/skype/SkypeLauncher.sh
[04:14] <usser> miloman, theres no max for a swap partition if thats what you mean, it can be as big as you want
[04:14] <TimReichhart> could anybody help me with my problem?
[04:14] <Pirate-King> opps
[04:14] <miloman> so its already maxed?
[04:15] <Dexi> I dont suppose anyone knows of a program that uploads images to a hosting site?
[04:15] <usser> miloman, you have to give us more context? what exactly is the problem?
[04:15] <usser> Dexi, your file manager can do it. it supports ftp
[04:15] <Titan8990> Dexi, depends on what the hosting site has available
[04:15] <tech0007> Titan8990: +1
[04:15] <usser> Dexi, i really like gftp though
[04:16] <miloman> ok u know how there is so much memory on a comp   then there is virtual memory which is how much it is letting the OS to use
[04:16] <beardbar> if I install the jaunty kubuntu will it update itself as patches are made or will I need to reinstall periodically until it goes stable?
[04:16] <kamilin> hey
[04:16] <Dexi> usser, im thinking like imageshack or photobucket, or something
[04:16] <yubuntu> is nautilus-gksu safe to install?
[04:17] <usser> miloman, yes. when you installed ubuntu it probably offered you to create a swap partition
[04:17] <tech0007> beardbar: you need to update, not reinstall, regularly...join #ubuntu+1 for more jaunty questions
[04:17] <TimReichhart> hi guys I need some help on fixing a problem with nagios3 I already posted this on the forums and it seems im not getting any help but here is the post on the forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1093018
[04:17] <miloman> i got it with ubuntu already installed
[04:17] <beardbar> tech0007, roger thanks
[04:17] <usser> miloman, if you didnt partition manually, automatic install picks a reasonable size for swap, theres rarely any need to change it
[04:18] <Dexi> usser: i dont see it in file manager anywhere
[04:18] <G-Blunted> How do i access my windows parition from linux?
[04:18] <yubuntu> does nautilus-gksu make you vulnerable to hackers?
[04:18] <miloman> usser:  then is it normal for my comp to freeze usually bc it thinks it hasnt much memory
[04:18] <b1n42y> !pastebin
[04:20] <Dexi> G-Blunted: does it not already show up in Places?
[04:20] <shausam27> is there way to play a avi file that is telling me i need a special player that they need me to download  but it just a lead to danger to my computer
[04:20] <tech0007> G-Blunted:  use ntfs-3g
[04:20] <b1n42y> aptitude problem need help http://paste.ubuntu.com/130046/
[04:20] <knoppix> knoppix questions ok here ?
[04:20] <media> join channel #blender
[04:20] <G-Blunted> nah it doesn't show up in places
[04:20] <tech0007> shausam27: that happens a lot in when I use M$...but not here
[04:21] <Emm1234> Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can fix an issue where the Ubuntu 8.10 installer seems to take forever to boot? I'm installing on a Mac Pro and if I use the text mode installer, I can see the "loading vmlinuz" prompt. It seems almost as if the CD is only being read at 1x or something odd. I've searched google about this, and I've tried disabling hardware with the boot options listed in the wiki, but nothing so far has helped.
[04:21] <usser> miloman, no its defininetely not normal
[04:21] <bullgard4> http://ltt.polymtl.ca/?q=node/7: "Linux_Trace_Toolkit_Next_Generation is a tracer for Linux being actively developed. LTTng includes a set of kernel instrumentation points useful for debugging a wide range of bugs, that are otherwise extremely challenging." What is a 'kernel instrumentation point'?
[04:21] <yubuntu> does nautilus-gksu make you vulnerable to hackers?
[04:21] <anahata> thanks and good night
[04:21] <drcrazy> hi
[04:21] <drcrazy> it seems my Hardy installation makes my harddrive work every 2 seconds :o/
[04:21] <miloman> usser: it happens a lot and ik ik not running more than 1gb  which sadly to say is my memory
[04:21] <G-Blunted> arn't other paritions already somewhere in the filesystem?
[04:22]  * drcrazy double-checks
[04:22] <bullgard4> yubuntu: I believe so, yes. But I cannot prove it beyond doubt.
[04:22] <tech0007>  G-Blunted: 'sudo fdisk -l'
[04:22] <lstarnes> yubuntu: it may make you slightly more vulnerable, but it would greatly increase the chances of you yourself accidentally messing something important up
[04:22] <Dexi> G-Blunted: sometimes... i had to configure mine
[04:23] <G-Blunted> dexi how u do that?
[04:23] <David_> hello, i have a dualboot laptop with vista and ubuntu
[04:23] <Dexi> G-Blunted: you have to add it to a file.. fdisk or something
[04:23] <bullgard4> yubuntu: So I would advise you to restrict its use to short time periods.
[04:23] <David_> is there any way i can install xp?
[04:23] <Dexi> David_: you could always try virtualbox
[04:24] <David_> Dexi i know, but it works slow like that
[04:24] <miloman> usser:  do u have an answer
[04:24] <David_> i need it for a couple of programs
[04:24] <David_> taht wont work under vista
[04:24] <melik> David_, installing Windows after Ubuntu is not recommended :/
[04:24] <Dexi> David_: wine?
[04:24] <bullgard4> !dual-boot David_
[04:24] <David_> melik, can you tell me why?
[04:25] <Dexi> windows boot loader screws grub
[04:25] <yubuntu> can anyone tell me how to share my main menu on samba??
[04:25] <tech0007> David_: it can be done but you have to recover grub
[04:25] <melik> David_, Windows boot loader sometimes messes up grub
[04:25] <drcrazy> nevermind, its my videocard fan that is grinding itself to death :)
[04:25] <melik> David_, do u have a
[04:25] <o0Chris0o> The Current ubuntu, is it using gnome 2.24?
[04:25] <melik> USB flash drive?
[04:25] <David_> yes i do
[04:25] <David_> 2gb
[04:25] <melik> u should look into making a bootable USB windows xp
[04:26] <melik> sec i'll link you to a guide
[04:26] <miloman> no i think its ubuntu 8.10
[04:26] <David_> melik, that would be nice...
[04:26] <yubuntu> can anyone tell me how to share ubuntu main menu on samba??
[04:26] <Dexi> 2gb is way too small, melik
[04:27] <Dexi> imo
[04:27] <melik> ah 2gb :/
[04:27] <G-Blunted> what you do after you fdsik?
[04:27] <melik> ouch
[04:27] <yubuntu> can anyone tell me how to share ubuntu's main menu on samba??
[04:27] <David_> how would i go for recovering grub?
[04:28] <tech0007> G-Blunted: edit your /etc/fstab to mount xp partitions on boot
[04:28] <melik> David_,  > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:29] <David_> melik, is it still possible for you to link me to that xp usb guide?
[04:29] <bz0b> how does one permanently switch over to emerald themes rather than using compiz
[04:29] <yubuntu> how  do you disallow remote  root logins in ubuntu?
[04:29] <melik> ah sure David_
[04:30] <melik> David_, http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
[04:30] <David_> thanks
[04:31] <E1ven> Is there a way to install additional 32 bit kernels in /boot on an X64 system? I want them there for Xen purposes. I can scp them from a 32 bit machine, but I thought there may be a cleaner way.
[04:31] <lstarnes> yubuntu: in sshd, root most likely isn't allowed by default.  Look for the "PermitRootLogin" directive in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[04:31] <David_> i just realized something....is it possible to install xp on a 64bit pc?
[04:31] <lstarnes> David_: yes
[04:31] <tech0007> David_: yup
[04:31] <David_> any special procedure or just insert disk and go?
[04:32] <TeamColtra> David_:  I think there is a special 64bit version
[04:32] <lstarnes> David_: I believe it's the same as a 32 bit installation
[04:32] <TeamColtra> http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-vista/compare-editions/64-bit.aspx
[04:33] <yubuntu> lstarnes, permit root login is nowhere to be  found
[04:33] <TeamColtra> David_: I didn't really read it but I am pretty sure there are 2 seperate versions... I know for a fact that there was a specific 64 bit version of XP
[04:34] <lstarnes> yubuntu: look around line 27
[04:34] <shameel> hi all, I think I'm having flash issues, does this video player work for you? http://www.abroadoffice.net/website-interface.html -- I am on ibex, with Flash 10,0,22,87
[04:34] <David_> TeamColtra, may i use the 32biut version on a 64bit system?
[04:34] <TeamColtra> Can someone answer this question either in here or on the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1093797
[04:34] <shameel> I get stuck on "Loading Player"
[04:34] <David_> TeamColtra, because I only own that one...
[04:34] <lstarnes> David_: yes
[04:34] <David_> perfect
[04:34] <TeamColtra> David_: Yes, you will just not get to use ram over 4GB
[04:35] <TeamColtra> and all the other parts of 64 bit greatness
[04:35] <David_> i have exactly 4gb of ram
[04:35] <David_> wich are?
[04:35] <TeamColtra> You will probably only see 3.5 or so GB of ram then
[04:35] <shameel> btw I am on 32 bit... I tried firefox and linux
[04:35] <yubuntu> nothing, lstarnes
[04:35] <bullgard4> http://ltt.polymtl.ca/?q=node/7: "Linux_Trace_Toolkit_Next_Generation is a tracer for Linux being actively developed. LTTng includes a set of kernel instrumentation points useful for debugging a wide range of bugs, that are otherwise extremely challenging." What is a 'kernel instrumentation point'?
[04:36] <TeamColtra> David_: :) I honestly don't know the upside outside of RAM for 64 bit, I am running 32 bit as well... but I hear good things :P
[04:36] <tech0007> 4Gb of ram is only useful if you're on 64bit
[04:36] <Guest12581> hi anyone got major k3b problems
[04:36] <sholden> Hi, I'm trying to get ssh to listen to port 3389 instead of 22, but it's not working
[04:37] <sholden> it keeps telling me connection refused
[04:37] <sholden> any ideas?
[04:37] <Guest12581> I can get it to burn anything plus it wont let me mount a disc in vbox
[04:37] <lstarnes> yubuntu: add a line that says "PermitRootLogin no" then restart ssh
[04:37] <apetrescu> sholden, what command are you running specifically?
[04:37] <sholden> well, from my other box im running 'ssh -p 3389 <IP_ADDRESS>'
[04:38] <sholden> im makign the change in my ssh_config file, but it doesnt seem to take
[04:38] <apetrescu> Is your server's sshd_config file set to listen on this different port?
[04:38] <sholden> its still listening on 22
[04:38] <lstarnes> sholden: did you restart ssh?
[04:38] <apetrescu> You need to modify sshd_config on the server, not ssh_config
[04:38] <Dexi> can anyone help me enable my cellphone for vbox? i checked in #vbox and was told since my problem is Distro-specific i should ask here
[04:38] <sholden> yup, restarted the box
[04:38] <sholden> oh
[04:38] <lstarnes> sholden: if not, try sudo invoke-rc.d sshd restart
[04:38] <sholden> that could be it
[04:38] <sholden> let me look
[04:39] <apetrescu> sholden, if that's the case, it's almost certainly your problem :)
[04:39] <Guest12581> and my user isin cdrom group as well
[04:39] <lstarnes> er, ssh, not sshd
[04:39] <sholden> ahh thanks a ton
[04:40] <bsusa> hello all
[04:40] <sholden> damn network nazis at work only allow 3389 over the vpn.  setting up a socks tunnel on 3389 on a little linux vm hehe
[04:40] <apetrescu> sholden, so fixed?
[04:40] <slippyb> hi , can someone help me with directory permissions - I do know how to use chmod and chown in simple manner - I already created a group in ubuntu and put user names in it.  I am trying to create a directory in which all the users can access and write files to each other, so pretty much means everyone associated with group can modify each others file.  But when a new user creates a new file or directory - the perrmissions come automatic
[04:40] <slippyb> ally to it
[04:41] <sholden> yup
[04:41] <sholden> thanks a ton
[04:41] <apetrescu> Great :)
[04:41] <Guest12581> and dmesg shows nothing at least in tail but I think this might be because it is trying to turn on my non-working case fan
[04:41] <bsusa> im having a little trouble seeing my xp intstall in grub, i see Vista and ubuntu but not xp, is their a way to add it manually through the grub config. Any other recommendations please
[04:42] <sholden> all this VM needs to do is tunnel ssh... whats the lowest ram you think i can get away with allocating?
[04:43] <Datz1>  Hi, when I try to download a file with sftp I get "Cannot download non-regular file"     ▒ │AidenL          │
[04:43] <Guest12581> (K3bDevice::HalConnection) lock queued for /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_DVDR___PX_810SA
[04:43] <apetrescu> Is it possible to specify the --quiet option in a .gdbinit file rather than on the command line or through an alias?
[04:43] <apetrescu> (for gdb, that is)
[04:43] <Datz1> │Anyone know how I can fix this?
[04:43] <apetrescu> Datz1, are you in ascii or binary mode, and what kind of file are you trying to download?
[04:44] <apetrescu> Datz1, if that's not the problem, the only other thing I can think of is that you're trying to recursively download a dir which sftp doesn't support... use scp instead
[04:44] <Datz1> apetrescu: I should be in ascii mode, and I am trying to download a directory
[04:45] <apetrescu> Datz1, ah, that's your problem
[04:45] <apetrescu> sftp protocol doesn't support that
[04:45] <Datz1> doesn't support what?
[04:45] <metbsd> i have ubuntu 6.06, is it good?
[04:45] <apetrescu> recursively downloading a directury using get or mget
[04:45] <apetrescu> use scp instad
[04:45] <apetrescu> *instead
[04:45] <apetrescu> Gah, I can't type today >_<
[04:46] <mjheagle8> @metbsd why dont you use a newer version?
[04:46] <Datz1> really, humm I thought I was able to do it before, I guess I was mistaken though
[04:46] <metbsd> cuz i don't have it
[04:46] <mjheagle8> what do you mean you dont have it?
[04:46]  * Datz1 will tar the directory
[04:46] <mjheagle8> you can download and burn a new version to cd.
[04:47] <metbsd> why can i not install older, and update it later?
[04:47] <mjheagle8> you can do that.
[04:47] <mjheagle8> but it will take longer to upgrade probably then just install the newer version right away.
[04:48] <mjheagle8> and there is no reason to use an older version over a new version
[04:48] <metbsd> ok kubuntu 7.04, better?
[04:48] <mjheagle8> thats an 07 version.
[04:48] <Dream> :-D
[04:49] <mjheagle8> you could use 8.04 or 8.10
[04:49] <mjheagle8> those are from 08.
[04:49] <mjheagle8> or wait a month for 9.04
[04:49] <metbsd> i have 7.04 kubuntu that's latest
[04:49] <Dream> o?
[04:49] <Dexi> ooh 9.04 is coming out soon?
[04:49] <bsusa> could someone tell me the command to find out what sda or hd devices are for each OS
[04:49] <mjheagle8> yeah, next month.
[04:49] <mjheagle8> april 23.
[04:49] <tech0007> am on 9.04
[04:49] <metbsd> i have too many cd... ubuntu, redhat, mint,,
[04:49] <metbsd> i hate so many cds
[04:50] <Dexi> tech0007: how is it
[04:50] <Xerran> I just installed 8.10 x64 on my spanky new "Dragon Platfrom" :)
[04:50] <Datz1> apetrescu, thanks for the explanation
[04:50] <slippyb> hi , can someone help me with directory permissions - I do know how to use chmod and chown in simple manner - I already created a group in ubuntu and put user names in it.  I am trying to create a directory in which all the users can access and write files to each other, so pretty much means everyone associated with group can modify each others file.  But when a new user creates a new file or directory - I want the permissions to come
[04:50] <slippyb> automatic which are only specified to that particular directory
[04:50] <metbsd> so what do i do with kubuntu 6.06? throw it?
[04:50] <sebsebseb> metbsd: CD's heh,  you could just get the ISO's for stuff and run in a virtual machine
[04:50] <Xerran> sebsebseb your awake :)
[04:50] <tech0007> Dexi: stable enough, no major breaks whatsoever
[04:50] <viktorkaz> hello
[04:50] <metbsd> run in virt machine, why?
[04:50] <Dream> Dragon
[04:51] <Dexi> tech0007: id break it :( lol. i'll wait and get a RC i think
[04:51] <sebsebseb> Xerran: uh yeah
[04:51] <sebsebseb> metbsd: then you don't need to burn stuff to CD, ok I missed most of your chat
[04:51] <mjheagle8> @slippyb chmod 777 /path/to/dir
[04:51] <slippyb> yeah did that
[04:51] <tech0007> Dexi: really want to break it, but it wont :p
[04:51] <Xerran> Dragon......
[04:51] <Xerran> http://game.amd.com/us-en/landings/dragon.aspx
[04:51] <metbsd> i want to install ubuntu on pc. i already insatlled winxp and redhat..
[04:51] <slippyb> well i did 775
[04:51] <mjheagle8> that makes it all good for all users.
[04:51] <slippyb> as i only want group users
[04:52] <mjheagle8> oh.
[04:52] <slippyb> specific group
[04:52] <ubud> how to execute this "vmware-player-2.5.126130.i386.bundle" file?
[04:52] <mjheagle8> yeah, that should work then.
[04:52] <slippyb> but when i go into that directory
[04:52] <mjheagle8> what's wrong with it then?
[04:52] <slippyb> and a user creates a file
[04:52] <metbsd> but one of redhat repository piss me off
[04:52] <viktorkaz> i have a question about firefox.. i just install ubuntu and well.. when i use FF before to delete a bookmark i just go to bookmarks and then right click and delete.. now everytime i do right click it will just log in the webpage.. how do you delete a bookmarks? :S
[04:52] <slippyb> and user 2 of that group can't edit it
[04:52] <Dexi> tech0007: i spend WAY to much time customizing, installing, etc on here, without any type of backup... the risk isnt really worth it to me...
[04:52] <slippyb> but can read it
[04:52] <slippyb> i want users who have right to go that directory to be able to modify each others file completely
[04:53] <mjheagle8> thats what write allows.
[04:53] <mjheagle8> you should be able to.
[04:53] <tech0007> Dexi: i've 3x-boot with LFS and xp, so no worries really
[04:53] <slippyb> so the directory has to have 777 not 775
[04:53] <slippyb> but user a and user b can both create files
[04:53] <Dexi> tech0007: :P nice. i dont suppose you know anything about virtualbox do you
[04:53] <Xerran> any AMD users in the room?
[04:54] <slippyb> but the files in the directory are in userA.group name as -rw-r-r
[04:54] <tech0007> Dexi: not really into vm's, too slow, but i got one for opensolaris
[04:54] <slippyb> so userB can't edit the file created by userA
[04:54] <gnewb> slippyb: It is a permissions thing, make backups if you allow *any /usr* to modify files.
[04:54] <mjheagle8> change the permissions on all the files.
[04:54] <sebsebseb> metbsd: oh triple boot
[04:54] <shaya> is fglrx not supposed to work in januty?
[04:54] <sebsebseb> Xerran: lol
[04:54] <shaya> jockey says its active, but it seems to be using regular radeon driver
[04:54] <Dexi> tech0007: yeah its slow but im just too damned lazy to install it for real, lol... which i should probably do
[04:54] <sebsebseb> Xerran: your  machine may be AMD, but there is Intel stuff still in there I think yeah
[04:55] <slippyb> but can't i create a directory and within that directory only userA and userB can modify each others file when not in use
[04:55] <Xerran> ?
[04:55] <shaya> r/join #ubuntu+1
[04:55] <mistergibson> got a no-sound-in-FF-flash issue, anyone got a sure-fire fix?
[04:55] <sebsebseb> Xerran: nevermind, what was your qustion
[04:55] <metbsd> can i triple boot?
[04:55] <sebsebseb> Xerran: why do you want AMD users?
[04:55] <Xerran> was just asking if there are any other AMD users int eh room
[04:55] <sebsebseb> metbsd: of course if you got enough hard disk space
[04:55] <Dexi> metbsd: you can boot as many as you want
[04:55] <bsusa> im having a little trouble seeing my xp intstall in grub, i see Vista and ubuntu but not xp, is their a way to add it manually through the grub config. Any other recommendations please
[04:56] <anki1> AMD with intel stuff sucks
[04:56] <Dexi> ugh
[04:56] <Xerran> AMD is awesome
[04:56] <tech0007> bsusa: you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:56]  * Dexi is annoyed with virtualbox windows
[04:56] <paulo> join/ #ubuntu-br
[04:56] <sebsebseb> Dexi: lol why?
[04:56] <Xerran> especially the price to performace ratio
[04:56] <Dexi> sebsebseb: it wont recognize my cellphone
[04:56] <Xerran> not to mention compatability with Ubuntu
[04:56] <metbsd> i have 320G
[04:57] <paulo> anyone knows how to read comics in linux?
[04:57] <sebsebseb> Dexi: you might be able to configure it to, find out in #vbox
[04:57] <tech0007> paulo: install evince
[04:57] <Dexi> sebsebseb: i asked there, guy told me its distro-specific and i should ask here
[04:57] <sebsebseb> Xerran: your on Live CD?
[04:57] <Xerran> noo
[04:57] <Xerran> I could not wait
[04:57] <gnewb> paulo: I use Ruby for that, but I am sure there are about a gozillion ways
[04:57] <Xerran> I messed up int he beginning
[04:57] <sebsebseb> Xerran: you installed?
[04:57] <paulo> whatś the comand?
[04:58] <Xerran> I deleted my partitons again in vista
[04:58] <paulo> ok ok
[04:58] <tech0007> paulo: whats the file extension of your comics? cbr?
[04:58] <sebsebseb> Xerran: I  just had an hour brake from computer, but I was around otherwse, if  you had messaged me by using my name, my client would have flashed, and we could of finnished off
[04:58] <Xerran> then made only the vista partitions I needed and usued the free space for ubuntu
[04:58] <kernel09l> cannot access shared folders in winxp
[04:58] <paulo> yes
[04:58] <paulo> cbr
[04:58] <Xerran> used
[04:58] <paulo> i loaded ruby
[04:59] <gnewb> paulo: Ruby is a shell, it is a very neat shell for doing like what you want, look at ruby.org
[04:59] <paulo> let me see now
[04:59] <siegey> anyone has any idea why i get this error when i am trying to build libtorrent?
[04:59] <siegey> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[04:59] <tech0007> paulo: evince is installed by default usually
[04:59] <pavlick19> hi
[04:59] <tech0007> paulo: 'sudo apt-get install evince' if its not
[04:59] <sebsebseb> Xerran: Vista hummmmm
[04:59] <siegey> i already have all the dependencies installed
[04:59] <Xerran> I just got a spanky new monitor from newegg so I could not wait :P
[04:59] <sebsebseb> Xerran: maybe you don't need it on there at all except in a virtual machine if anything
[04:59] <paulo> nothing yet
[04:59] <pavlick19> i am a newbee and i am trying to install ndiswrapper,  can some one help me
[04:59] <paulo> evince
[04:59] <sebsebseb> Xerran: oh I guess Compiz will be fun to do on that :d
[04:59] <paulo> let me try it now
[04:59] <Dexi> lmao screw this, im just going to install windows for real on my other harddrive...
[04:59] <Xerran> Hell yea
[05:00] <warlord> hi, i have to use ubuntu 6.10 to support a hardware that has driver only for the version of this Ubuntu the problem is  my screen is only 12" and some parts are not showing so i can install properly using the live CD. Anyway got an idea how do I proceed?
[05:00] <tech0007> Dexi: thats the way to go...
[05:00] <soreau> So I installed ubuntu with this wubi thing and the windows boot loader loads grub. Can I install grub 'normally' to the MBR without worry?
[05:00] <sebsebseb> Xerran: have you got seperate home like I recommended?  and so on
[05:00] <Dexi> does anyone know if it will cause problems to disconnect my SATA harddrive, connect my IDE, and install an OS?
[05:00] <pavlick19> i navigated to my home folder,
[05:00] <Xerran> and my Radeon 4850 X2 2GB needs something to do :P
[05:00] <sebsebseb> soreau:  well  not with wubi I don't think
[05:00] <viktorkaz> I have a question about firefox.. i just install ubuntu and well.. when i use FF before to delete a bookmark i just go to bookmarks and then right click and delete.. now everytime i do right click it will just log in the webpage.. how do you delete a bookmarks? :S
[05:00] <pavlick19> then gunzipped the file
[05:01] <sebsebseb> soreau: ,but a real hard disk partition install it will put Grub on properly
[05:01] <Dexi> tech0007: i=dumbass validated windows on my virtualbox... now i have to wait a week or w/e to do it again and hope it still works
[05:01] <pavlick19> but when i make install, i get permission denied
[05:01] <Dexi> anyway bbl
[05:01] <gnewb> viktorkaz: Hilite, press Delete
[05:01] <paulo> nothing yet
[05:01] <Xerran> all the drivers in Ubuntu worked out of the box for the AMD 790X chipset, NIC and the Radeon video card
[05:01] <paulo> evgen ruby or evince
[05:01] <siegey> pavlick19: try sudo make install
[05:01] <soreau> I know that sebsebseb, I'm asking if it would be safe to install grub to the MBR and dual boot from there (even though ubuntu lives somewhere in ntfs land)
[05:01] <pavlick19> anyone can help a newbee?
[05:01] <baz> whats a command line command to echo today's date in a nice format: i.e. Wednesday, July 14, 2009
[05:02] <pavlick19> ok
[05:02] <sebsebseb> Xerran: ok I guess they had open source drivers then :D
[05:02] <Xerran> that did not happen with my intel/nvidia setup
[05:02] <warlord> anyone?
[05:02] <pavlick19> is sudo make install a command?
[05:02] <sebsebseb> pavlick19: what are you trying to install?
[05:02] <juanbond> Hey guys, I'm sure I'll get a lot of responses, but just wondering what type of video card chipset you would recommend to work with Ubuntu?  nVidia or ATI?
[05:02] <pavlick19> ndiswrapper
[05:02] <sebsebseb> Xerran: Linux has some nice 3D games and things as well
[05:02] <tech0007> juanbond: nvidia!
[05:02] <Xerran> yea, Ubuntu x64 gave me the latest Radeon drivers
[05:03] <juanbond> nvidia 1, ati 0
[05:03] <viktorkaz> gnewb: that didnt work for me:(
[05:03] <metbsd> will ubuntu 8.10 server fit on 650MB?
[05:03] <Xerran> ATi
[05:03] <juanbond> nvidia 1, ati 1
[05:03] <juanbond> :)
[05:03] <punzada> i vote nvidia as well
[05:03] <Xerran> ATi works wonders with Ubuntu
[05:03] <juanbond> oh oh
[05:03] <ZMR> nvidia
[05:03] <sebsebseb> Xerran: right, but you don't know what to install yet :d
[05:03] <evilbug> i'm on xubuntu 8.10 and for a few months i've been having firefox constantly crash on me for no consistent reason. anyone know why?
[05:03] <juanbond> nvidia 3, ati 1
[05:03] <tmart> nvidia
[05:03] <juanbond> nvidia 4, ati 1
[05:03] <Xerran> my nvidia cards did not work
[05:03] <metbsd> intel
[05:03] <juanbond> nvidia is pulling away!
[05:03] <juanbond> :P
[05:03] <tech0007> !poll
[05:04] <gnewb> viktorkaz: let me launch one and see how I do it.that is the normal way for me, but let me check
[05:04] <sebsebseb> evilbug: yes  the unoffical Ubuntu Firefox, likes to crash, on certain peoples computers, my computer being one of them
[05:04] <metbsd> nvidia 4, ati 1 , intel 8
[05:04] <aetheria> i'm running fsck.ext2 on an external usb drive and getting this: "HTREE directory inode 6930433 has an invalid root node.  Clear HTree index<y>?"  Does anyone know if that will cause any damage?
[05:04] <evilbug> sebsebseb: what do you mean "unofficial"?
[05:04] <siegey> anyone has any idea why i get this error when i am trying to build libtorrent?
[05:04] <siegey> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[05:04] <juanbond> allrighty, cool guys, thanks for the insight
[05:04] <sebsebseb> evilbug: how much RAM do you have?   I mean it's based on the Linux Firefox, but it is not the real thing
[05:04] <viktorkaz> gnewb: ok thx
[05:04] <lstarnes> siegey: you likely failed to run the configuration script
[05:04] <|Kamen|> question on adding noatime to fstab for the main partition (/dev/sda1) is a restart required for this to take effect?
[05:04] <aetheria> siegey: you'd need a target for make, such as "all" or "install" or whatever.  see the readme/install docs
[05:04] <evilbug> sebsebseb: i'm on a athlon xp 2.17, 1gb ram.
[05:05] <sebsebseb> evilbug: I think issues with the unoffical Ubuntu FIrefox, because we have 1GB RAM
[05:05] <siegey> lstarnes: i already ran /configure
[05:05] <girl> hyeeeeeeee
[05:05] <gnewb> viktorkaz: Ok, look in Bookmarks, then organize, expand that, hilight what you want gone, delete
[05:05] <lstarnes> siegey: did it give you any errors?
[05:05] <tech0007> |Kamen|: if its the root partition yes
[05:05] <anki1> Dexi: i dont think so
[05:05] <siegey> lstarnes: nope, no errors at all
[05:05] <sebsebseb> girl: hi if you realy are a Ubuntu girl that's great, but if not I guess using that name can get you some attention :D
[05:05] <|Kamen|> tech0007: thanks, it is
[05:06] <siegey> aetheria: i read the readme docs and i followed the directions, first was to ./configure then make then make install
[05:06] <juanbond> the bot just doesn't get me :|
[05:06] <evilbug> sebsebseb: when i was back on gnome i don't remember it crashing almost at all. actually it didn't do this in xfce either until a few months ago. sometimes it actually freezes my entire system and i have to do a manual reboot.
[05:06] <juanbond> :)
[05:06] <viktorkaz> gnewb: ahh i see now thanks a lot
[05:06] <girl> :)'
[05:06] <sebsebseb> evilbug: Firefox freeze's the system yeah?
[05:06] <gnewb> viktorkaz: my pleasure
[05:06] <evilbug> sebsebseb: yes.
[05:06] <tech0007> evilbug: i got rid of FF, used kazehakase instead
[05:07] <sebsebseb> evilbug: yes same issue here, if I have many tabs open,  or I try and do Flash  with Adobe's or Swfdec, or Gnash,  really high CPU usage, and  freeze
[05:07] <sebsebseb> evilbug: it can really slow down my system
[05:07] <sebsebseb> evilbug: Firefox can  memory leak and stuff.
[05:07] <evilbug> tech0007, sebsebseb: i'm thinking of opera or konqueror. opera preferably, what do you think?
[05:07] <Xerran> I love FF, i think it's one sexy b@#$h :P
[05:07] <metbsd> IE7 is quite good.
[05:07] <sebsebseb> evilbug: Opera nah since it's closed source
[05:08] <sebsebseb> metbsd: IE is the worst broser of all!
[05:08] <sebsebseb> browser
[05:08] <Xerran> I agree with sebsebseb
[05:08] <bsusa> im getting error 12: invalid device requested
[05:08] <pavlick19> sebsebseb: i tried sudo but after i put in the password i got a message saying NOTE: Windows driver configuration file format has changed since 1.5.  You must re-install Windows drivers if they were installed before
[05:08] <bsusa> every time i boot xp
[05:08] <sebsebseb> evilbug: Konq is nice and there's  also  Galeon and Epiphany
[05:08] <metbsd> IE7 works quite well
[05:08] <sebsebseb> evilbug: and dilo even
[05:08] <metbsd> all websites works in IE7
[05:08] <Xerran> I kicked XP tot he curb today
[05:08] <tmart> lynx should be in the top 10
[05:09] <sebsebseb> metbsd: lol you don't know how the web works
[05:09] <pavlick19> sebsebseb:  what does that mean?
[05:09] <gnewb> Xerran: ^5
[05:09] <metbsd> i don't want to know how it works, i want to just use it
[05:09] <sebsebseb> metbsd: of course all websites seem to work in IE7, but that's, because it has most market share,  since it's bundled into Windows
[05:09] <evilbug> tech0007, sebsebseb: thanks for the info.
[05:09] <Xerran> Vista x64 and Ubuntu only for now
[05:09] <jimdb_> He's a troll
[05:09] <sebsebseb> metbsd: however IE does not follow the http://www.w3.org web standards
[05:09] <metbsd> i don't care how it works, i only want it to work
[05:09] <Xerran> who is a troll?
[05:09] <inet> +i
[05:10] <jimdb_> The guy baiting into arguing about is
[05:10] <jimdb_> Ie
[05:10] <pavlick19> sebsebseb...
[05:10] <sebsebseb> I am not a troll :)   I have helped quite a few people from this channel with Ubuntu, and rather well indeed
[05:11] <kriscolt> i can vouch for seb...
[05:11] <sebsebseb> IE is worse than Windows!
[05:11] <rakudave> just drop it guys
[05:11] <kriscolt> he straightened me out a couple days ago
[05:11] <pavlick19> sebsebseb i need help please
[05:11] <pavlick19> sorry to bug u
[05:11] <sebsebseb> kriscolt: with another name?
[05:11] <kriscolt> nah, same.
[05:12] <|Kamen|> how can I see which version of ubuntu I am running?
[05:12] <sebsebseb> kriscolt: I don't remember,  I guess since I done quite a  few since then
[05:12] <metbsd> not care how it work, as long as it works
[05:12] <sebsebseb> pavlick19: help with what?
[05:12] <trancefat> Hi All, how do i play a video that was made with th indeo codec?
[05:12] <jimdb_> I didn't say you were. The other guy is.
[05:12] <tech0007> |Kamen|: lsb_release -a
[05:12] <lstarnes> |Kamen|: lsb_release -a
[05:12] <kriscolt> prob
[05:12] <kriscolt> i don't remember the specifics...
[05:12] <Xerran> brb
[05:12] <sebsebseb> kriscolt: what did we do?
[05:12] <|Kamen|> thank ye both
[05:13] <kriscolt> i think you pointed me to the ppc backports for 8
[05:13] <kriscolt> i was still running dapper
[05:13] <tech0007> trancefat: try mplayer, vlc, xine
[05:13] <Sa[i]nT1> How do you open up a port?
[05:13] <sebsebseb> kriscolt: maybe you got the wrong Seb, but nevermind :D
[05:13] <Sa[i]nT1> I want to stream video from my comp, I need to open port 8080.
[05:13] <pavlick19> sebsebseb: i am trying to install ndiswrapper
[05:13] <kriscolt> ok n/m then
[05:13] <sebsebseb> pavlick19: maybe you don't need it at all
[05:13] <pavlick19> maybe
[05:14] <pavlick19> but how come my asus aspire one running ubuntu 8.10 doesn't recognize wireless networks?
[05:14] <sebsebseb> pavlick19: thank  God I  don't bother with the wireless issues normalley when I come here, which has been pretty often the last week or two.   it would drive me insane doing wireless issue nearly every day :D
[05:14] <evilbug> sebsebseb: what about seamonkey? would it still have the same issues as ff because it's still mozilla?
[05:14] <sebsebseb> evilbug: nope Seamonkey seems to work well
[05:14] <trancefat> tech0007: oh yes i can try vlc
[05:14] <pavlick19> sorry dude
[05:14] <jimdb_> That is acer aspire
[05:14] <sebsebseb> evilbug: Seamonkey is nice as well
[05:14] <evilbug> sebsebseb: thanks!
[05:15] <sebsebseb> pavlick19: uhmmmmm
[05:15] <sebsebseb> pavlick19: Ndiswrapper should be a last resort
[05:15] <sebsebseb> pavlick19: if no native way will get your wireless working
[05:15] <evilbug> sebsebseb: ff doesn't act up on my 2.33 c2d + 2gb ram.
[05:15] <|Kamen|> can someone point me to a download for pidgin 2.5? its not in the repos yet and I needs my icq back
[05:15] <pavlick19> native way?
[05:15] <sebsebseb> evilbug: Firefox always seemed to work in Vista on this computer as well,  it's to do with the Ubuntu unoffical version I think
[05:16] <kriscolt> !pidgin
[05:16] <sebsebseb> pavlick19: yeah maybe you need an athros driver or something, but you haven't told anyone about your card
[05:16] <tmart> pidgin.im
[05:16] <tech0007> !info pidin
[05:16] <pavlick19> k
[05:16] <tech0007> !info pidgin
[05:16] <tmart> epiphony is a nice client to use instead of pidgin
[05:17] <pavlick19> its an asus aspire one computer, let me logout of ubuntu so i can check
[05:17] <Dexi> oh..god
[05:17] <Dexi> dammit.
[05:17] <sebsebseb> pavlick19: I am no wireless expert
[05:17] <|Kamen|> crap. all I see there is source and I know jack about compiling
[05:17] <sebsebseb> pavlick19: I am glad my computer is etherneted :)
[05:17] <kriscolt> kamen, it's not that bad
[05:17] <sebsebseb> pavlick19: wireless is slower than cable and can be unreliable as well as insecure
[05:17] <metbsd> wireless is funfun
[05:17] <jimdb_> It is ACER aspire
[05:17] <metbsd> mine is aspire too
[05:17] <sebsebseb> metbsd: yeah maybe if your going around with a lap top, and going on other peoples connections LOL
[05:18] <tmart> kamen: try empathy instead
[05:18] <metbsd> worst laptop ever
[05:18] <sebsebseb> metbsd: ,because they didn't know how to secure it
[05:18] <pavlick19> true, but nonetheless
[05:18] <tech0007> metbsd: whats the best laptop then?
[05:18] <metbsd> macbook
[05:18]  * Dexi restarted my computer and it went into a beeping frenzy and took me to the ubuntu boot splash screen, then some error and (initramfs) tech0007 help? anyone?
[05:18] <metbsd> why you ask this silly question, everybody knows it
[05:18] <zedster> I need to open a pdf/asp file for work, what do I do to make this works
[05:19] <metbsd> everybody knows that macbook is the best
[05:19] <evilbug> sebsebseb: right after i installed seamonkey through add/remove, add/remove crashed. then when i opened up seamonkey, terminal crashed :|
[05:19] <|Kamen|> naw found deb packages alerayd made :)
[05:19] <metbsd> mac makes great computer and phone
[05:19] <sebsebseb> metbsd: oh an Apple fan boy
[05:19] <zedster> metbsd: Apple makes nothing,fyi
[05:19] <sebsebseb> evilbug: add or remove heh  use the synaptic package manager or commands
[05:19] <zedster> but I'm going to assume you were trolling
[05:20] <jimdb_> zedster: As I pointed out earlier.
[05:20] <shauno> prom4619w
[05:20] <zedster> jimdb_: just go in
[05:21] <shauno> balls
[05:21] <sebsebseb> !pdf | zedster
[05:21] <zedster> got*
[05:21] <Sa[i]nT1> I'm trying to stream video with VLC, it works on lan easy, but how to do I open the port so people online can see my video?
[05:21] <Dexi> I have no idea wtf that was...
[05:21] <zedster> sebsebseb: I know that, this is a pdf in a .net (asp) architecture
[05:21] <Dexi> sebsebseb: tech0007: I just cried a little bit...
[05:21] <baz> how to u i force a command to evaluate? for example i want to open a new note in tomboy with the date as the title, so on the command line i type:  tomboy --new-note date, but that prints the actual word "date"?
[05:22] <sebsebseb> Sa[i]nT1: VLC that's a good program, but so is banshee for music and video.  well that is the Ibex version of Banshee
[05:22] <shauno> baz: back-ticks.  `date`
[05:22] <sebsebseb> zedster: ASP  eww   PHP :)
[05:22] <justdave> has anyone tried Intrepid on the new Mac Minis that just came out yet?
[05:22] <soreau> I need to know:  I installed ubuntu with WUBI and the windows boot loader loads grub. Can I install grub 'normally' to the MBR without worry or what?
[05:22] <deepz> #firefox
[05:22] <tech0007> Dexi: both your sata and ide drives are in the computer?
[05:22] <sebsebseb> soreau: I told you before  probably not
[05:22] <sebsebseb> soreau: if you want Grub normally partition your hard disk properly
[05:22] <jimdb_> Sa[i]nT1: There is a host file that vlc uses. I don't remember where it is ot the name
[05:22] <Dexi> tech0007: yes but IDE isnt connected..... ubuntu started now... idk what happened but i did not like it
[05:22] <nicle> Hi all, how can use the man command in Ubuntu 8.10?
[05:23] <soreau> sebsebseb: I need a real definite answer with reason though
[05:23] <pavlick19> sebsebseb: it is Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter
[05:23] <baz> shauno, awseom it worked!
[05:23] <nicle> the info command works
[05:23] <soreau> reading material
[05:23] <zedster> sebsebseb: this is to print my tax form from my school, its a server side script (other wise I could change it) that uses .asp to print the info to a pdf
[05:23] <soreau> link or whatever
[05:23] <sebsebseb> nicle: if that's a troll,  very nice troll indeed,   ,but yeah just type man in the terminal  or  man program
[05:23] <tech0007> Dexi: you may want to restart again just to be sure, or fsck
[05:23] <shauno> sebsebseb: were you also tempted to answer 'man man' ?
[05:23] <Dexi> tech0007: yeah
[05:23] <Dexi> idk wtf is going on
[05:23] <sebsebseb> shauno: nah
[05:23] <Dexi> firefox wont start
[05:23] <Dexi> i dont think pidgin will
[05:24] <sebsebseb> Dexi: Pidgin can screw up in Ubuntu, just as FIrefox can
[05:24] <nicle> sebsebseb:  in the my system, info works, but man not
[05:24] <Dexi> sebsebseb: but not xchat?
[05:24] <nicle> sebsebseb:  example: man open
[05:25] <tech0007> nicle: havent really used info for the longest time...
[05:25] <justdave> picking any option off the boot menu on the Intrepid installer CD just tells me "Invalid or currupt kernel image"
[05:25] <sebsebseb> Dexi: log out and back in again  of your Ubuntu account, that tends to sort out issues
[05:25] <pavlick19> sebsebseb: it is Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter
[05:25] <justdave> but the burn verified okay when I burned the CD
[05:25] <Dexi> sebsebseb: ok brb
[05:25] <tech0007> justdave: check the CD first
[05:25] <nicle> tech000: man command does not work in my ubuntu box
[05:25] <justdave> tech0007: the CD check gives the same error
[05:25] <sebsebseb> pavlick19: ok there is probably a driver,  but I am no wireless expert
[05:25] <tech0007> justdave: its a bad burn...
[05:26] <justdave> (it won't run the CD check)
[05:26] <justdave> the burn matches the image file
[05:26] <nicle> tech000: it just outpu:  Manual page open(1) line ?/? (END)
[05:26] <justdave> I've burned it twice, and the burning computer did a verify both times after burning and said it passed
[05:26] <DawnRazor_> guys can you set the update manager to download updates automatically to a specific location that can be accessed by all other lan users to save each user downloading the same each time
[05:26] <jimdb_> justdave: Could be bad cd drive or ram
[05:26] <sebsebseb> pavlick19: I think there's atheros driver now yeah
[05:27] <tech0007> justdave: or request for free CD from shipit
[05:27] <sebsebseb> pavlick19: yep you got atheros so you won't need ndiswrapper, it's as simple as that
[05:27] <thelordmortis> DawnRazor_: you could also run an apt-proxy ?
[05:27] <nicle> hi all, I do installed the manpages and manpages-dev in my system, the man return nothing but "Manual page open(1) line ?/? (END)"
[05:28] <koshari> DawnRazor upt cacher is what you want
[05:28] <|Kamen|> justdave: is a usb install an option for you?
[05:28] <DawnRazor_> checking
[05:28] <koshari> !apt-cacher
[05:28] <thelordmortis> DawnRazor_: apt-cacher looks better than apt-proxy
[05:29] <koshari> apt cacher is foolproof,
[05:29] <DawnRazor_> seems to fit the bill
[05:29] <pavlick19> great how do i get it to work?
[05:29] <DawnRazor_> seems a shame to have a heap of users all downloading the exact same updates each time
[05:29] <sebsebseb> pavlick19: I am not sure uhmmmmm
[05:29] <koshari> DawnRazor just run the apt-cacher server on your primary mackine and edit a file on the machines that update through it
[05:30] <justdave> don't think a mac mini will boot USB
[05:30] <sebsebseb> pavlick19: I got two ideas since right now for your issue, this channel is being useless
[05:30] <justdave> it'll boot firewire though
[05:30] <DawnRazor_> excellent - thanks a lot guys - I have some fiddling to do :)
[05:30] <sebsebseb> pavlick19: ubuntuforums.org if it is up may have your issue,   and #linux is a more general channel,  so  likely to get Linux geeks their like always
[05:30] <zedster> anyone have any idea how to make a asp script work to print a pdf?
[05:31] <justdave> must have got a bad image, the other mini won't boot it either (and that one's already got Ubuntu on it)
[05:31] <mediadragon> I need to find some software to my specifications, is there a IRC room for that?
[05:31] <justdave> disk mounts fine from both Ubuntu and OS X
[05:31] <tritium> zedster: this channel is for ubuntu support
[05:31] <sexcopter> hi, can i use regex or something to list files in a numerical range? Like if i have abc01.png, abc02.png, etc, and i want a list of filenames for abc05.png to abc09.png
[05:31] <sebsebseb> zedster: maybe ask in #Windows since Linux people go there to LOL  or in  #Linux,   uh  kind of troll this, but  ASP is so uhmmmmm  LOL
[05:31] <zedster> tritium: its on ubuntu off of my school website
[05:31] <shear_clone> i'm having weird problems with video playback, in Totem, under x86_64. the video will flash with a checkerboard pattern of black squares overlaid on the video. this only occurs when the video is not playing full screen
[05:31] <sexcopter> (a contrived example to clearly show my question)
[05:31] <justdave> I suppose I could always try Hardy then upgrade it. :)  got a CD for that that I know works
[05:31] <tech0007> justdave:  you can boot from the iso from the hard drive...that's how i installed mine
[05:31] <zedster> Im the client not the server
[05:32] <pavlick19> sorry
[05:32] <michaelrose357> ok among the numerous problems I'm having with 8.10, at random intervals applications just stop responding for a while
[05:32] <justdave> how do you do that, make a partition big enough to hold it and restore to it?
[05:32] <impybabe> Does anyone here know what would cause the network manager icon to show a disconnected network, but the internet works fine after a sudo dhclient wlan0?
[05:32] <Flannel> sexcopter: the best way to do it is to list all the files, and then grep just what you want.
[05:33] <tech0007> justdave: forgot the details..u need to save the iso to an ext2/3 partition then edit grub to boot from it
[05:33] <sexcopter> Flannel: ah, ok, will try that
[05:33] <michaelrose357> does ubuntu perform poorly enough to be unresponsive with a core 2 duo 2.4 ghz and 3GB of ram or is this buggy behavior?
[05:33] <metbsd> maybe your pc is too fast
[05:34] <sebsebseb> michaelrose357: there seems to be a 3GB  RAM  issue/bug
[05:34] <sebsebseb> michaelrose357: it's being really slow yeah?
[05:34] <justdave> hmm, neat, the mouse-button-at-boot to eject trick doesn't work on the new minis
[05:34] <metbsd> too much ram, remove 1GB should fix your problem
[05:34] <michaelrose357> very funny
[05:34] <justdave> works fine on the old one, with the same mouse :)
[05:34] <tech0007> metbsd: i wouldnt do that
[05:35] <sebsebseb> michaelrose357: he  may have been joking, but it is actsaully a good suggesiton
[05:35] <Dexi> that was the most epic fail suck ever.
[05:35] <Dexi> im gonna go watch tv. thanks for the help guys
[05:35] <sebsebseb> michaelrose357: ,because there seems to be a 3GB lag  issue/bug
[05:35] <michaelrose357> sebsebseb I don't understand how that could be so
[05:35] <snakedoctor1> this mean no one has used the real time kernel ?
[05:36] <sebsebseb> michaelrose357: a guy that I helped partition his hard disk, was complaining about slow Live CD on 3GB RAM and I was like what nah I don't belive it,  then installed and it was slow as well.  installing the graphics card driver helped, but there was still like 5% lag
[05:37] <carutsu> hello!
[05:37] <sebsebseb> hello
[05:37] <sebsebseb> carutsu: hello
[05:37] <carutsu> :)
[05:37] <carutsu> ok, here I go...
[05:37] <metbsd> why not use vista for 3G ram
[05:37] <sebsebseb> michaelrose357: do a google and you will find out that other  people have had issues on 3gb ram
[05:37] <metbsd> if i were you i wouldn't bother
[05:37] <carutsu> hello everyone!... my laptop is experiencing high temperatures :/ ... and only 1 fan is active (yet all the time)... so I was looking in google and found (and tried) that i should do "echo -n 3 > /proc/acpi/fan/[FAN]/state" well I did it (for all my five fans) but when I cat again all of 'em are shown as off
[05:38] <zedster> so guys am I sol on getting an asp pdf to work on ubuntu?
[05:38] <carutsu> also: cat /proc/acpi/fan/C32[4567]/state shows off, off, off and on (i'd preffer them all auto)
[05:38] <metbsd> linux is good for ppl who love collecting old machine
[05:38] <sebsebseb> Flannel: I think metbsd is a slight troll,  not that long ago he says IE is the best browser, and now tells a guy to use Vista
[05:38] <tech0007> :)
[05:39] <metbsd> hehe linux could get your laptop onfire
[05:39] <justdave> I bet I got a bad download of this disk image
[05:39] <justdave> I just queued the torrent of the same ISO I direct-downloaded before, and the file size is 150 MB bigger
[05:39] <Flannel> metbsd: Did you have a support question we could help you with today?
[05:39] <tritium> sebsebseb: best thing to do with trolls is ignore them
[05:39] <carutsu> Flannel: I do ;-)
[05:40] <sebsebseb> tritium: yeah or make the mods reolize that they are there :D
[05:40] <metbsd> yes here comes my support question,
[05:40] <sebsebseb> tritium: I mean ops
[05:40] <metbsd> will compiz wrok with radeon 7000?
[05:40] <sysdoc> !mplayer
[05:40] <sysdoc> !codecs
[05:40] <metbsd> and i want to triple boot window, redhat, ubuntu and suse
[05:40] <tritium> sebsebseb: we know
[05:40] <metbsd> possible?
[05:41] <krishnan> metbsd: that is very simple
[05:41] <justdave> should have just torrented it to begin with, but I was in a hurry and the torrent links weren't all that obvious on the download page
[05:41] <sebsebseb> metbsd: we already told you it's possible
[05:41] <metbsd> how to do it?
[05:41] <metbsd> i'm installing 3rd linux, but i don't dare to install grub
[05:41] <sebsebseb> metbsd: lilo?
[05:41] <metbsd> it'll crash my mbr?
[05:42] <metbsd> hahaha lilo
[05:42] <metbsd> it's shit!
[05:42] <sebsebseb> metbsd: Windows boot loader?
[05:42] <laputa> excuse me! Is therer anyone use bugzilla?
[05:42] <metbsd> no, mbr
[05:42] <charitwo> !language | metbsd
[05:42] <michaelrose357> does anyone actually have or have had a problem with random unresponsiveness?
[05:42] <krishnan> metbsd: first install windows, then install redhat, then suse and then install ubuntu. grub will be automatically install. but while installing all the OSs except windows, while partitioning select manual and select the partitions as logical instead of the default primary
[05:42] <Daimoway> use grub4dos
[05:42] <|Kamen|> I'm looking for dosbox and zsnes. these are usually listed in synaptic but I've installed a variant build of ubuntu. anyone know what repos I need to be adding for these?
[05:43] <sebsebseb> michaelrose357: yes there seems to be a 3GB RAM  issue with Ubuntu and then lag
[05:43] <metbsd> no michaelrose357 im using 500MB and ubuntu is very responsive
[05:43] <krishnan> I have downloaded Google desktp in .deb extension for my hardy heron. how do i indtall it? Pls help me
[05:43] <Sa[i]nT1> Can anyone tell me about streaming with VLC?
[05:43] <metbsd> but each time i install diff linux, it install windows and linux, but no more other linux
[05:43] <tech0007> !info dosbox > |Kamen|
[05:43] <zedster> Sa[i]nT1: you want to use VLC to create a stream that other computers can watch?
[05:43] <sebsebseb> krishnan: jus click on the deb you downloaded and install or  use the command line
[05:44] <Sa[i]nT1> zedster: Yes.
[05:44] <sebsebseb> !grub |  metbsd
[05:44] <Daimoway> double click is enough
[05:44] <ShdwNova> Does anyone know if torrents for Jaunty Alpha6 are available yet?
[05:44] <zedster> Sa[i]nT1: in vlc go to the wizard and it should be kind of straight forward. The man file for vlc as well as the faqs on their site are great
[05:44] <|Kamen|> tech0007: universe is enabled. so is main, restrcited, and multiverse
[05:45] <sebsebseb> ShdwNova: to early
[05:45] <zedster> so last try before I call it a night, no one knows how to get an asp generated pdf to work on ubuntu?
[05:45] <krishnan> sebsebseb: thanks a lot. installing is very easy. :)
[05:45] <metbsd> why the name *buntu
[05:45] <Sa[i]nT1> zedster: Well, I just want to know what settings should I put? To broadcast to any computer on the net. It works on lan, but not on the net.
[05:45] <sebsebseb> krishnan: uhmmmmm when did I help with an install?
[05:45] <|Kamen|> tech0007: and it still aint showing up
[05:45] <zedster> Sa[i]nT1: you need to broadcast to the external ip and check your firewall settings
[05:45] <tech0007> |Kamen|: which variant are you using?
[05:46] <zedster> Sa[i]nT1: its not really a question for this channel
[05:46] <|Kamen|> easy peasy, aka ubuntu eee
[05:46] <Sa[i]nT1> zedster: Is there a VLC channel?
[05:46] <sebsebseb> !ubuntu | metbsd
[05:46] <sebsebseb> !name | metbsd
[05:46] <Brando753> is there as way to get ubuntu server to recognize a wifi card
[05:46] <SunnyDP> how to set default settings for an application from terminal ? ie: firefox --defaut-settings ?
[05:47] <tech0007> |Kamen|: which version?
[05:47] <zedster> Sa[i]nT1: http://www.videolan.org/support/
[05:47] <zedster> its on freenode, just look for it
[05:47] <|Kamen|> tech0007: 1.0 its built off 8.10 intrepid
[05:47] <metbsd> use ffmpeg for dreaming
[05:47] <sebsebseb> metbsd: Ubuntu is an ancient african word that means humanity or whatever
[05:48] <metbsd> u liar
[05:48] <zedster> SunnyDP: its different for each program, run the program with the -h switch to see the commands
[05:48] <sebsebseb> metbsd: Hence why their slogan is  Ubuntu Linux for human beings
[05:48] <metbsd> ubuntu doesn't mean anything
[05:48] <zedster> so firefox -h
[05:48] <tech0007> |Kamen|: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install dosbox'
[05:48] <zedster> lawl
[05:48] <SunnyDP> zedster: thanks brother
[05:48] <tech0007> hahaha
[05:48] <sebsebseb> tritium: about time I guess, is he properly banned though?
[05:48] <tritium> sebsebseb: yes
[05:49] <sebsebseb> tritium: ok
[05:49] <Brando753> is there as way to get ubuntu server to recognize a wifi card
[05:49] <tritium> Brando753: typically, it is automatic.  Which hardware?
[05:50] <rodrigo23> Hi, anyone owns an HP530 notebook in the room?
[05:50] <|Kamen|> tech0007: ok that worked. so its in the repos just not showing up in synaptic?
[05:50] <tech0007> |Kamen|: you have to update first before you grab packages from the repo
[05:51] <|Kamen|> tech0007: I did
[05:51] <tech0007> |Kamen|: that''s why I like CLI better that gui
[05:51] <|Kamen|> still wasnt showing. thats what was confusing me. this "easy peasy" is proving to be anything but
[05:51] <Brando753> here is what i get on ubuntu server install "Your network is probably not using the DHCP protocal." it never asked for a password let alone a network
[05:51] <zedster> tritium: hi, do you have any idea for my problem. I need to get my tax info from my schools website and its a pdf.asp
[05:52] <krishnan> is GIMP an equivalent to adobe photoshop. if  plan to switch, is it possible?
[05:52] <sebsebseb> krishnan: yes it is, but there are differences in how it  does things
[05:52] <tech0007> krishnan: more or less
[05:52] <zedster> the form renders before the asp can fill its out
[05:52] <tritium> zedster: no, sorry.
[05:52] <sebsebseb> krishnan: most programs are in a frame,  gimp is well you will see
[05:52] <carutsu> !fans
[05:52] <carutsu> !fan
[05:52] <zedster> tritium: thanks, o well
[05:52] <krishnan> sebsebseb: thanks a lot :)
[05:52] <sebsebseb> krishnan: you can also run Photopshop CS2 under Wine, but you need to put the windows fonts in there, or the menus  will look odd
[05:52] <gRunt> Hey all quick question regarding installing ubuntu. I've installed a distro onto a USB pendrive with Unetbootin but because im installing from a demo i dont seem to get the option to set up partitions, while im about to format vista and install tinyxp im afraid it will overwrite my OS, any ideas on the best way to install it so this doesn't happen.
[05:52] <Brando753> !server
[05:53] <Brando753> :(
[05:53] <krishnan> sebsebseb: i hate windows and its package. i use it only to connect my sony digicam and my sony ericsson cell
[05:53] <|Kamen|> krishnan: google "learning the gimp", you will find many, many, many tutorials. and you'll need them :)
[05:54] <sebsebseb> krishnan: ok cool,  also there are a few other graphics programs in Linux that are good
 thank u very much
[05:54] <krishnan> sebsebseb: pls name them
[05:54] <zedster> just don't image search learning the gimp, it won't end well
[05:55] <sebsebseb> krishnan: find them in synaptic or go on sites such as  http://www.osalt.com and http://www.linuxeq.com
[05:55] <michaelrose357> I figured it out
[05:55] <|Kamen|> gah. that is a terrifying thought, and yet holds that train-wreck appeal....
[05:55] <Brando753> anyone know how to help me
[05:55] <Brando753> anyone know how to get the server to work with a wifi card during install
[05:55] <krishnan> sebsebseb: ok i will check them out
[05:55] <michaelrose357> for whatever reason loose bindings options makes a HUGE difference with newer nvidia cards
[05:55] <michaelrose357> via benchmark plugin in compiz
[05:56] <sebsebseb> krishnan: you do understand, that you tend to get software from Ubuntu's servers  yeah?  either graphically with synatpic or the command line
[05:56] <michaelrose357> my framerate goes from 22 to about 250
[05:56] <krishnan> sebsebseb: yes i do
[05:57] <nado> Brando753, you don'tget anything in the network manager ?
[05:58] <_0x783czar> is there some way I can specify which tty session I want a command to run in?
[05:58] <snakedoctor1> is there a realy time kernel for 8.10
[05:58] <snakedoctor1> ?
[05:58] <Brando753> for server edition
[05:59] <snakedoctor1> so it will run on server :D
[05:59] <tech0007> !info linux-rt
[06:00] <euxneks> can anyone help me with this audio problem? :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6880858&postcount=1148
[06:00] <zedster> _0x783czar: without just hitting alt+crtl+f[1-7]?
[06:01] <jerry1963> Hey, you guys know how I can get into the aim chatrooms?
[06:01] <sebsebseb> !ot
[06:02] <shear_clone> i'm having weird problems with video playback, in Totem, under x86_64. the video will flash with a checkerboard pattern of black squares overlaid on the video. this only occurs when the video is not playing full screen. card is a GeForce 9500 GS.
[06:03] <_0x783czar> zedster yeah, i want a shell script to be able to specify (oh! and i meant vty)
[06:03] <zedster> anyone have a good site to test video codec support?
[06:04] <stormchas2000> shear_clone a question for you  off topic   is shear your last name if so msg me
[06:04] <shear_clone> stormchas2000, no it isn't.
[06:05] <snakedoctor1> any of you think using real time kernel is a bad idea ?
[06:06] <rodrigo23> Anyone knows what packages do i need to make my notebook wireless led work?
[06:06] <stormchas2000> ok thank you shear_clone    um check your monitor setting to make sure the display setting are set right
[06:07] <ZykoticK9> snakedoctor1, why the interest in real time kernel?  are you planning on using your computer to control some sort of industrial machinery?  if not, there isn't really much use in real time.
[06:08] <AzraelAshland> hello
[06:08] <sebsebseb> AzraelAshland: hello
[06:09] <shear_clone> all settings look fine to me. anything specific you mean by "set right"?
[06:10] <AzraelAshland> Umm... I need some help. Specifics: Netbook, Acer Aspire One, Ubuntu 8.10. Trying to figure out how to manually control the fan speed. Already know about the automatic settings. Tried acerfand but it still seems like the fan doesn't turn on when I'd like it to. Also can't see the CPU temp in acpi -t
[06:12] <chalcedony> i think i have a problem.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/130063/
[06:13] <stormchas2000> Shear_clone     um I know that for my computer  my screen resolution is set for 1024x768  i know i could go down to 800x600 but anythin smaller and i have problems
[06:13] <nado> chalcedony, it's : apt-get update
[06:13] <ZykoticK9> chalcedony, the command is suppose to be "sudo apt-get update"
[06:14] <shear_clone> stormchas2000, gotcha. No, resolution isn't the problem. I'm always pretty careful to make sure the resolution jives with the monitor/card combo
[06:14] <ZykoticK9> chalcedony, also, logging in as root is a bad idea and you really should try to avoid it.
[06:14] <shear_clone> update, though, the problem seems to be related to compiz. switched back to metacity, and it seems to have gone away.
[06:14] <smpi> cE_LutHu
[06:15] <AzraelAshland> Umm... I need some help. Specifics: Netbook, Acer Aspire One, Ubuntu 8.10. Trying to figure out how to manually control the fan speed. Already know about the automatic settings. Tried acerfand but it still seems like the fan doesn't turn on when I'd like it to. Also can't see the CPU temp in acpi -t. Anyone?
[06:15] <chalcedony> nado: right .. working now
[06:15] <bullgard4> http://ltt.polymtl.ca/?q=node/7: "Linux_Trace_Toolkit_Next_Generation is a tracer for Linux being actively developed. LTTng includes a set of kernel instrumentation points useful for debugging a wide range of bugs, that are otherwise extremely challenging." What is a 'kernel instrumentation point'?
[06:15] <chalcedony> ZykoticK9: ty
[06:15] <chalcedony> shear_clone: also ty
[06:16] <shear_clone> chalcedony, ?
[06:16] <stormchas2000> shear_clone I was just getting ready to ask you that, compis has alwsome graphics but boy does it mess the screen up for other programs
[06:17] <shear_clone> stormchas2000, the thing is, I don't want to simply dodge the issue by using metacity. I like compiz, I'd rather fix it.
[06:18] <SunnyDP> bullgard4: http://ltt.polymtl.ca/ --> this school is in my city :D
[06:18] <SunnyDP> how to completely remove a program including it's settings ?
[06:19] <stormchas2000> Shear_clone   compiz is a program that uses alot of system resources, um i have to turn it off when i play certain games, that is the only thing i have found that works
[06:19] <shear_clone> SunnyDP, sudo apt-get purge <program>
[06:20] <SunnyDP> shear_clone: thanks, i was using apt-get remove
[06:21] <xirrin> Hi guys - complete linux newbie here just trying to get my wireless card to work before I pull my hair out. I'm running 32-bit 8.10 and it looks like madwifi should take care of my problem, but I'm not really sure how to work it at all since most of the support links on the website appear to be broken. Is there anyone who might be able to explain to me how to set it up at all?
[06:21] <sniper0269> anyone know what software is installed on UE linux 2.0
[06:21] <shear_clone> stormchas2000, i'd be surprised if a lack of system resources was an issue. even so, do you know how to track video memory usage?
[06:21] <stormchas2000> shear_clone if you find anything let me know. I did find that getting more ram did help, but it still has problems with other heavy programs
[06:22] <bullgard4> SunnyDP: Congratulations!
[06:22] <shear_clone> stormchas2000, i've got 6 gigs of system ram, and the usage has never, as long as I've had this machine, gone above 50%
[06:22] <shear_clone> i suppose it could be videocard memory, but i don't know how to check that
[06:22] <vinstafari> Hey hey
[06:23] <SunnyDP> bullgard4: you don't need to congratulate me brother, congratulate yourself
[06:23] <stormchas2000> Shear_clone  sorry that is about as far as my knowlegde goes   I hope someone else here can help you
[06:24] <shear_clone> stormchas2000, ty anyhow.
[06:27] <peabody> is it just me? or is no one talking?
[06:27] <Flannel> peabody: It's not just you.
[06:27] <peabody> whew for a second there, I was worried it was my client
[06:28] <peabody> Flannel: thanks a bunch
[06:30] <xirrin> Anyone able to help me try and get a wireless card working? I'm sort of stumped and following the walkthough on the Ubuntu help pages doesn't seem to be solving the problem. :-/
[06:30] <bazhang> !test
[06:31] <AzraelAshland> xirrin what type of machine are you using laptop or desktop?
[06:31] <xirrin> You know whats really interesting
[06:31] <AzraelAshland> what?
[06:31] <xirrin> After all this, its been working the whole time.
[06:31] <AzraelAshland> lol
[06:31] <SJrX> I just had a MySQL DB basically hogging all the CPU. The machine was logging that it was out of memory, but there was no MySQL logging, nor can I figure out why. The first load average, is the load in the past minute. I'm looking at top, and it was giving a load average >1, but it wasn't showing anything using more than 3% for that whole minute. Ideas?
[06:31]  * AzraelAshland high fives xirrin
[06:32] <xirrin> I just clicked on the little wired network icon on accident and *BOTH* of my wireless adapters show wireless networks available.
[06:32] <xirrin> Had I known to look there in the first place...lol
[06:32] <AzraelAshland> xirrin: don't feel bad I just solved my own fan problem.
[06:32] <xirrin> Hahaha
[06:32] <AzraelAshland> xirrin: and my sound problem.
[06:32] <xirrin> Excellent :)
[06:32] <AzraelAshland> xirrin: turns out the sound was muted
[06:32] <xirrin> Going to reboot and hope it keeps working.
[06:32] <AzraelAshland> and the fan module was failing to load
[06:32] <bullgard4> http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.24/index.html.en: "New Sound Theme Support: Sound themes in GNOME are now handled by libcanberra, which implements the Freedesktop.org Sound Theme and Naming Specification." What is a 'Sound Theme'?
[06:32] <AzraelAshland> lol
[06:32] <xirrin> Azrael, I'm going to pretend I've never made that mistake.
[06:33] <AzraelAshland> doh
[06:33] <xirrin> Wish me luck on the reboot :oP
[06:33] <AzraelAshland> gl
[06:33] <AzraelAshland> We'll be here
[06:35] <AzraelAshland> Anyone in here got experiance with Egalax touchscreens on eepcs or aspireone?
[06:35] <|Kamen|> question on bind9. is this just a server I can safely remove if I dont plan on hosting other connections, or is it required for my own network connections to function?
[06:38]  * Dexi had a bad inode... apparently fixing it meant all my pidgin settings are completely reset?
[06:42] <justdave> yay, the new CD boots.
[06:42] <melik> guys lets say I have a seperate partition for my boot configuration for ubuntu right
[06:42] <justdave> redownloaded via torrent, my direct download from the ubuntu.com home page apparently gave me a bad image
[06:43] <melik> and i want to install fedora onto a seperate partition as well, can i use the same boot partition for both OS's?
[06:43] <justdave> melik: as long as you mean where you're putting grub, sure.
[06:43] <justdave> /boot can't be the same
[06:43] <justdave> (they have different kernels)
[06:44] <justdave> they can share a grub though
[06:44] <melik> cant it just store both kernels?
[06:44] <justdave> oh, actually... yeah, as long as they're named differently, that might actually work
[06:44] <melik> hmmmmm :$
[06:44] <melik> think i should risk it :$?
[06:44] <peabody> grub just reads whatever kernel you tell it from /boot
[06:44] <Lincid> melik: Each OS will store it's own partition, grub just points two which one you want to load.
[06:44] <justdave> not sure why, though, doesn't seem like much effort to just make another one
[06:45] <melik> ah allright Lincid thanks
[06:45] <false> melik: Welcome.
[06:45] <melik> false,
[06:45] <melik> actually
[06:46] <melik> my kernels are located in my /boot
[06:46] <TimReichhart> anybody help me with the issue im having with nagios3
[06:47] <c0l2e> can anyone help with crontab for user here?
[06:47] <Flannel> !anyone | TimReichhart, c0l2e
[06:48] <TimReichhart> may i please get some dang help I been in this chat over a hour and no help yet
[06:49] <shear_clone> TimReichhart, it happens. Perhaps nobody active here knows the answer. Have you tried the forums as well?
[06:49] <TimReichhart> i have no help either
[06:50] <shear_clone> !cron | c0l2e
[06:50] <BattleStarJesus>  How do I turn on a toolbar from a terminal?
[06:54] <AzraelAshland> BattleStarJesus: Please elaborate on what you are trying to do?
[06:54] <Zaiden> What is the default interface font used in Ubuntu 8.10?
[06:54] <rakudave> Zaiden: Sans
[06:55] <Zaiden> Thank you.
[06:55] <siegey> !aclocal
[06:56] <rakudave> BattleStarJesus: do you mean a gnome-panel?
[06:56] <siegey> anyone knows why i get a `aclocal not found' error when i try to make install?
[06:58] <gladio70> #ubuntu-it
[06:58] <AzraelAshland> siegy: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=355452 yet?
[06:58] <rakudave> gladio70: the syntax is "/join #ubuntu-it"
[06:59] <sharef_> question: why doesnt my Saitek Eclipse II keyboard's num, caps, scroll lock lights work??
[06:59] <sharef_> they dont toggle when i hit the button, but they work fine when i boot on windows
[06:59] <wiretapt> watch Alex Jones' film just released today: The Obama Deception
[06:59] <wiretapt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrpRocaEfQE&playnext_from=PL&feature=PlayList&p=582F24A0E9D9FD89&index=0
[06:59] <rakudave> !ot
[07:00] <vostibackle> every time I reboot, mousekeys has turned back on... how do I stop it?!?
[07:00] <justdave> always surprises me when the screensaver kicks in during an install
[07:01] <Sa[i]nT1> I am trying to broadcasta video with VLC, but i can't get it to be able to be seen by other people, just people on my LAN. How do I get it to broadcast over the net?
[07:01] <justdave> my first reaction is always "something went wrong" and then I think wait, maybe it's the screensaver and I jiggle the mouse and the screen comes back
[07:02] <wangwentao> icewm里运行firefox怎么出现错误呢
[07:03] <wangwentao> 说是什么东西定义不能运行
[07:03] <vostibackle> it makes me happy that I can see those characters without having to install anything :)
[07:03] <Sabir> âåðíèòåêîðâèíàìåðçàâöû
[07:04] <wangwentao> oh i know  i shoud say english
[07:04] <Sabir> sorry
[07:04] <wangwentao> is it?
[07:05] <a770xb> hi is it possible to have a USB modem in ubuntu 8.10??
[07:05] <a770xb> a WLL USB modem
[07:06] <Sabir> I mixed the channel # ubuntu and # ubuntu-ru
[07:06] <Sabir> :)
[07:07] <Dexi> lol
[07:07] <x4d_> I'm looking for an easy way to sync one folder to a backup drive in ubuntu and I found conduit, is this my best option currently?   If that's why you picked that factoid.
[07:10] <Dexi> Flannel: good point. I like 'stfu' though. and jfgi. and rtfm. not noob tho...
[07:10] <josh_> Could anyone help me getting my video drivers working correctly?
[07:10] <c0l2e> ubottu: I got this script that checks connection to our samba server and mounts things if not yet mounted. the bash script runs well in console.. but I've tried it putting in crontab to check connection and remount every 10 minutes.. but the said script won't run in user level cron / crontab
[07:10] <Dexi> josh_: 8.10?
[07:11] <josh_> Dexi, no, 8.04
[07:11] <Dexi> josh_: my best answer is upgrade to 8.10 and everything will probably work dandy
[07:12] <josh_> Sorry about that!
[07:12] <Dexi> josh_: my best answer is upgrade to 8.10 and everything will probably work dandy
[07:12] <josh_> Dexi, I tried to install 8.10, but the installer hung up.. I'm a little wary about upgrading.
[07:12] <Dexi> it worked fine for me...
[07:12] <Dexi> !upgrade
[07:13] <Dexi> in my opinion, 8.10 might has well have been 9.0
[07:13] <Flannel> Dexi: Version numbers are: year.month
[07:14] <Dexi> Flannel: for real i never noticed that.
[07:14] <Dexi> Flannel: i was just going to ask why they went to from 8.1 to 9.4
[07:14] <J6Dof> whenever i install something i get this error : " /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/local/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 is not a symbolic link "
[07:14] <Flannel> Dexi: yeah.  8.10 was released in October (and it's eight ten, not eight one oh, etc.  You can't shorten it to 8.1) and then 9.04 (nine four) is released in April
[07:14] <sebsebseb> Dexi: heh  I been with Ubuntu since second release, and always thought the number system was weird, untill the other day when I found out
[07:15] <Dexi> J6Dof: it looks like you need to remove the .0 but that might not work...
[07:16] <Dexi> weird system...
[07:16] <linxeh> Dexi: its a date..
[07:16] <Dexi> yeah
[07:16] <linxeh> Dexi: 8 = 2008, 4 = april
[07:16] <Dexi> i understand, its just odd
[07:16] <wendy___> how do i extract .rar files?
[07:16] <Dexi> wendy sudo apt-get install unrar i believe
[07:17] <wendy___> do i have to buy it?
[07:17] <linxeh> shrug. version numbers are odd. date based releases make far more sense imo anyway - especially when you have a continually moving target which is just a collection of thousands of other peoples packages
[07:17] <Flannel> !rar | wendy___
[07:17] <Dexi> nope
[07:17] <J6Dof> Dexi: there is a libSDL-1.2.so.0 in /usr/local/lib/ and its a symbolic link
[07:17] <Dexi> thats another thing... whats non-free mean. because it seems like it means its not free
[07:17] <wendy___> !info unrar-free
[07:18] <siegey> anyone knows why i get a `aclocal not found' error when i try to make install?
[07:18] <sebsebseb> wendy___:  :)  that's a beauty of Linux right there,  you don't need to buy software for it
[07:18] <wendy___> nice
[07:19] <sebsebseb> wendy___: even nicer, you don't have to scan for viruses or spyware either :)
[07:19] <wendy___> oh that i know
[07:19] <wendy___> i love linux
[07:19] <wendy___> :)
[07:19] <sebsebseb> wendy___: your new?
[07:19] <wendy___> sorta
[07:19] <wendy___> read alot, just used to gettin cr@ks for stuff in windos, know wat i mean, lol
[07:20] <bsusa> hello
[07:20] <wendy___> thats why i asked do i have to buy since in synaptic said nonfree version
[07:20] <sebsebseb> wendy___: of course :d
[07:20] <Sa[i]nT1> Anyone know any channels that deal with streaming?
[07:20] <sebsebseb> wendy___: free means freedom in the Linux world usualley
[07:20] <Flannel> wendy___: No.  "non-free" refers to the source being free.  You can actually read about the different things here:
[07:20] <sebsebseb> wendy___: software that it says is non free it means closed source
[07:20] <Flannel> !components | wendy___
[07:20] <wendy___> Sa[i]nT1, nope not me
[07:20] <Dexi> Sa[i]nT1: what kind of streaming?
[07:21] <bsusa> im getting a error 12: invalid device requested message when itry to boot xp, could someone please assist me
[07:21] <Flannel> wendy___: (the components page there, second link)
[07:21] <Sa[i]nT1> Dexi: Video Streaming, i've been trying to get it to work all night.
[07:21] <Dexi> webcam to a website?
[07:21] <sebsebseb> wendy___: yeah and  http://www.opensource.org  and  http://www.gnu.org then go to philosphey section and read most of the articles in about free software, that's a good idea
[07:21] <Sa[i]nT1> Dexi: Such as streaming videos with VLC
[07:22] <Dexi> ah. no im not sure about that
[07:22] <sebsebseb> wendy___: free as in freedom not price,  read a bit about that, and you will understand :)
[07:22] <wendy___> thanks so much
[07:22] <wendy___> brb
[07:22] <Dexi> sebsebseb: in this economy, we see free - we think price.
[07:23] <sebsebseb> Dexi: of course, but that's not what this type of software is about
[07:23] <Dexi> lol yeah :)
[07:23] <legolasw> Hi
[07:23] <sebsebseb> legolasw: hello
[07:24] <legolasw> Which package I should install to have Nvidia driver for my vga card instead of generic driver?
[07:24] <legolasw> I have ubuntu 8.10
[07:24] <bsusa> try NV-NG
[07:25] <siegey> lego: try Applications -> System -> Hardware Drivers -> install the nvidia reccomended driver you see
[07:25] <sharef_> anyone know why my key-lock status lights done toggle when i hit the relavent key???
[07:25] <sharef_> num, caps and scroll lock
[07:26] <Dexi> sharef_: USB keyboard?
[07:26] <sharef_> yeah
[07:26] <sharef_> works with other computers and OS just fine
[07:26] <sharef_> but not with this one
[07:26] <Dexi> you might need a driver or something
[07:26] <Dexi> i have a usb keyboard and mine worked right away
[07:27] <legolasw> I do not know why, but that "Hardware Drivers" does not detect my nvidia cart.
[07:27] <bsusa> lego: this worked for me http://albertomilone.com/envyngfaq.html
[07:27] <Dexi> sharef_: do you have USB key and mouse enabled in bios?
[07:27] <legolasw> Before this I had installed and after some times uninstall-ed the Nvidia driver manually.
[07:27] <legolasw> thank you bsusa.
[07:27] <sharef_> hmmm, ill check that, it only started this when i switched from vista to hardy heron
[07:28] <bsusa> lego: thats ok
[07:29] <bsusa> im getting a error 12: invalid device requested message when itry to boot xp, could someone please assist me
[07:30] <Brando753> is there any documentation for using ubuntu server for the first time?
[07:31] <maxagaz> is there an application to do ghost on ubuntu ?
[07:31] <Brando753> !server
[07:33] <maynghien> khong hieu day la cai gi
[07:36] <Scooma> !vn | maynghien
[07:36] <BlackAeronaut> Howdy all.  Can anyone help me out with a troublesome laptop?  I'm trying to install 64 bit Ubuntu 8.10, but all I get is friggin' terminal.
[07:36] <Scooma> maxagaz, what are you attempting to do exactly?
[07:37] <Scooma> BlackAeronaut, did you install the server or the workstation? what's your hardware?
[07:37] <js__> join d
[07:37] <maxagaz> Scooma, i've prepared an ubuntu with some specific configurations, and now i want to copy it on many other computers
[07:38] <BlackAeronaut> Scooma: installing on a Toshiba Satellite A355D series (AMD Turion x64 Dual Core).  Pretty sure it's workstation.
[07:38] <ninom> i updated my nvidia drivers to 177 recommended. now when i restart it changes the settings to over 60hz and my monitor cant take it. how to adjust these settings so when computer is restarted everything is ok.
[07:38] <Scooma> Brando753, https://help.ubuntu.com/pdf/ubuntu/C/desktopguide.pdf
[07:38] <sharef_> i need a good media player that can be easilly controlled with the terminal
[07:39] <doleyb> sharef_: mplayer? mpg321 ?
[07:39] <sharef_> well, i like amarok but it doesnt play nice with gnome
[07:40] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[07:40] <Scooma> maxagaz, most people just use http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page but there are applications in your synaptec package manager if you serch for ghost
[07:40] <sharef_> if i could get that working cleanly under gnome i would be happy
[07:40] <ninom> how to reset changes on drivers update without restarting ubuntu
[07:41] <sharef_> how do i stop drive icons from showing up on my desktop?
[07:41] <sharef_> in gnome
[07:41] <o0Chris0o> is there a addon for konverastion to post specs of your pc?
[07:41] <Dexi> that was a rather small split
[07:41] <drsurferrr> where can i find the italian version of ubuntu channel?
[07:41] <Dexi> o0Chris0o: try #konversation
[07:42] <o0Chris0o> !it
[07:42] <o0Chris0o> Dexi: ty
[07:42] <Scooma> BlackAeronaut, have you tried running   startx
[07:43] <neil_d> which package has the tunctl program in it?
[07:43] <Scooma> ninom, if you've modified any of the drivers the kernel needs you have to reboot, if not, easiest way is to logout/login or restart your shell. with gnome it's   CTRL+ALT+ press backspace
[07:43] <Slart> !find tunctl
[07:43] <BlackAeronaut> Scooma: Yeah, and it gives me an odd error message.  Let me boot it up again so I can get that error message for you.
[07:44] <Scooma> neil_d, have you tried searching synaptic package manager?
[07:45] <Scooma> Slart,  ah thanks
[07:45] <MasterZ> Hey guys, anybody know much about mdadm?
[07:46] <Scooma> MasterZ, a little. this is my cheat sheet:   http://linuxhacks.org/tutorials/jakes_mdadm_RAID_setup.php
[07:47] <MasterZ> already following that
[07:47] <c0l2e> how can I add refresh desktop from a script??
[07:47] <MasterZ> but I ran into a problem
[07:47] <BlackAeronaut> Scuma:  Great.    At " * Starting powernowd... "
[07:47] <MasterZ> one of the drives doesn't appear to be working
[07:47] <drsurferrr> i'm looking for person that speak italian
[07:47] <Scooma> BlackAeronaut, do you have it enabled in the bios?
[07:47] <dronix> italiano?
[07:47] <drsurferrr> yes
[07:47] <MasterZ> set it up as RAID 5 and when I cat /proc/mdstat I get this:<PHONE_NUMBER> blocks level 5, 128k chunk, algorithm 2 [3/2] [UU_]
[07:47] <Scooma> !it | drsurferrr
[07:48] <neil_d> Scooma: yes
[07:48] <YazzY> hi lads
[07:48] <Scooma> neil_d, no matter :) Slart gave you an answer
[07:48] <YazzY> any idea where to find the media file played by ubuntu afer you log in?
[07:48] <BlackAeronaut> Scuma: I wouldn't know what I have to enable in the bios.
[07:49] <Scooma> Masterz   when you sudo mdadm --query /dev/md0   does everything look good?
[07:50] <Scooma> BlackAeronaut, you can type sco and press tab to complete my nick ;)   in your bios there should be an option to enable "Cool'n'Quiet" but you can do that another time. has it started yet? have you run startx  ?
[07:50] <o0Chris0o> whats the best shockwave/flash plugin for firefox? Adobe, swfdec or Gnash?
[07:50] <disappearedng_> hey everyone
[07:50] <c0l2e> How can I refresh Desktop from a bash script?
[07:50] <Scooma> YazzY, are you wanting to stop it playing?
[07:50] <dom38> hi
[07:51] <disappearedng_> any1 here knows the shortcut to switch from one Desktop to another in gnome?
[07:51] <MasterZ> Scooma: Here is hte command I ran to create the raid    sudo mdadm --create /dev/md0 --chunk=128 --level=raid5 --raid-devices=3 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1
[07:51] <Scooma> disappearedng_, do you have the little boxes in the bottom right? click on one of those
[07:51] <disappearedng_> yeah I am talking about on the keyboard 's shortcuts
[07:52] <Scooma> disappearedng_, CTRL+ALT right
[07:52] <disappearedng_> thx scooma
[07:52] <Scooma> MasterZ, yeah and then what happened?
[07:52] <BlackAeronaut> Scooma: Sorry about that.  No, it's still hung at powernowd.
[07:53] <Scooma> BlackAeronaut, okay reboot and enter your bios. look for Cool'n'quiet and enable it
[07:53] <MasterZ> Scooma: everything seems to have worked, but it doesn't look right...
[07:53] <BlackAeronaut> Scooma:  Right.  Wait one.
[07:53] <Scooma> MasterZ,  did you format and mount it?
[07:53] <MasterZ> have not gotten to that step yet
[07:53] <beardbar> hi guys, just trying to install kubuntu, been following the guides and googling like mad but I seem to keep hanging on step 3 of 6, the keyboard selection, i hit continue and a pop comes up, does some file extraction, then it seems to sit and hang.
[07:54] <MasterZ> formated the hdd's then ran the mdadm --create command
[07:54] <BlackAeronaut> Scooma:  Huh.  It's pretty quick to shut down properly on the three finger salute.  Guess it wasn't totally locked up.
[07:54] <Scooma> MasterZ, yeah you need to format it and then mount it :)   sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/md0  i think?
[07:54] <Scooma> BlackAeronaut, nah it was wanting the hardware to repond properly first before continuing. it's important to get that part right so you can ensure the proper use of your CPU
[07:55] <Scooma> i hope you're gonna finish your dns prob and make it for drinks yo
[07:55] <Scooma> erk
[07:55] <MasterZ> but the mdadm --query /dev/md0 shows that one disk is a spare (when there are no spares) and cat /proc/mdstat shows that  3 disks are being used of 2 required (that should be 3 of 3) and it shows [UU_] which means the third device is having a problem
[07:56] <YazzY> Scooma: no, i want tyo replace it witrh something else
[07:56] <BlackAeronaut> Scooma: No such setting in my bios.
[07:56] <Scooma> MasterZ,  yeah cos your command had level=raid5 instead of  level=5
[07:56] <MasterZ> hmm, then that how to is wrong :Pj
[07:56] <c0l2e> how can I refresh Desktop from console?
[07:57] <Scooma> YazzY, you can change it by opening Sounds... System->Preferences->Sound and looking at the Sounds tab...
[07:57] <MasterZ> but mdadm docs show it hte way you did... thanks for pointing that out
[07:57] <Scooma> BlackAeronaut, nothing about power management?
[07:57] <MasterZ> now how do I remove this raid so I can rebuild it?
[07:57] <Scooma> MasterZ,  just re-run the command ;)
[07:57] <MasterZ> k, thanks Scooma
[07:57] <YazzY> Scooma: sweet, thanks
[07:58] <Scooma> MasterZ,   if it says "no no" then you need to use something like:  mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/hdc1
[07:58] <Scooma> MasterZ,  replace hdc with your disk [of course]
[07:58] <Guest59186> OK I understand the change in the kernel from hda to sda but things are starting to get ridiculous, when I install on an i865 (intel chipset) mobo with a pata hd and a sata hd
[07:58] <Scooma> c0l2e, what do you mean?
[07:58] <MasterZ> running the command, didn't add the superblock
[07:59] <BlackAeronaut> Scooma: Not much - Toshiba laptops these days leave most of that to software control.  The only thing we got for power is an option to awaken from standby when the battery level reaches critical level.
[07:59] <Scooma> Guest59186, yes, hdX is for older IDE and sdX is for SATA
[07:59] <Scooma> MasterZ,  ah i think they're added when you format (ie. mkfs)
[07:59] <MasterZ> Scooma: I see the same thingj
[07:59] <YazzY> Scooma: one more thing, on opensolaris i could use the Workspaces panel and drag windows to different workspaces but i cant do that in ubuntu, i need to right click on a window and chose "move to another workspace". Any idea how to acticate that?
[08:00] <MasterZ> then this document i'm following needs help lol
[08:01] <Scooma> YazzY, i think you need to activate the compiz module that allows window dragging? System->Preferences->Compiz config manager?
[08:01] <Guest59186> Scooma, pm
[08:01] <null> hey, so i can't modprobe modules if they're compiled-in, right?
[08:01] <MasterZ> it says to run mdadm --create, then cat /proc/mdstat, tehn format the array
[08:01] <Guest59186> or offtopic
[08:01] <Scooma> Guest59186, please don't pm me. just write it in the channel thanks
[08:02] <Scooma> Masterz   when you sudo mdadm --query /dev/md0   does everything look good?
[08:02] <Guest59186> Scooma, kay I am just trying to word my question/complaint better
[08:02]  * Guest59186 is writing on paper
[08:02] <Scooma> Guest59186, just throw it out there
[08:02] <MasterZ> no... shows md0 raid 5 3 devices 1 spare..
[08:03] <Guest59186> yes but i have to reword it better
[08:03] <Scooma> MasterZ,  maybe the chunk had something to do with it?
[08:04] <ibuffy> i need help, things worked well upgrading from 6.06 (the only live cd i have) to 8.04, but after upgrading 8.04 to 8.10, the login screen doesn't respond to my mouse or keyboard. the only keyboard commands i can use are ctl-alt-del to reboot or ctl-alt-f<1-10> to use a virtual terminal. please help me
[08:04] <MasterZ> hmm, shows disk 1 active sync, disk 2 active sync, disk 3 spare rebuilding
[08:04] <Scooma> MasterZ,  try again without the chunk, exactly as it has it in the cheat sheet
[08:04] <MasterZ> i can change the chunk size but mdadm wiki suggests 128 is best for raid 5
[08:04] <MasterZ> okay
[08:04] <Scooma> MasterZ,  oh that's okay.
[08:04] <Scooma> MasterZ,  it's building the checksum stuff
[08:04] <MasterZ> then why does it say spare?
[08:04]  * BlackAeronaut waits patiently.
[08:05] <Scooma> MasterZ, *shrug*    you did it right I thought?
[08:05] <MasterZ> hmm, the status is recovery....
[08:05] <MasterZ> finish=17158.6min
[08:05] <MasterZ> ouch
[08:05] <o0Chris0o> whats the file name for the restricted driver
[08:05] <Scooma> MasterZ, yeah that's when it builds the checksum stuff. just gotta wait ;)
[08:05] <MasterZ> so you think that in 17,158.6 minutes it will look normal?
[08:06] <Scooma> o0Chris0o, which one?
[08:06] <Guest59186> Scooma, ok when I installed with ubuntu on that chipset why clearly ide primary master should be /dev/sda but it is /dev/sdb now and the sata drive which is sata ide 3 should be /dev/sdb but is /dev/sda which really %^&* up grub in the installer now
[08:07] <null> hey, my sound device, /dev/snd disappeared. it shows up in lspci.  i tried modprobing snd-hda-intel, but the module wasn't available to modprobe. so, i tried to compile the module, but the ./configure for snd-hda-intel says i've got alsa compiled into the kernel. so now what?
[08:07] <o0Chris0o> extras
[08:07] <o0Chris0o> Scooma: restricted extras, sorry
[08:07] <beardbar> is there a good tutorial on what I should set my partition sizes too. I have a 250gb partion to work with.
[08:08] <Guest59186> Scooma, this has only been happening since installs from 8.10 on and when I don't touch  the drives at all and install debian it is the way I said it should be
[08:08] <null> i'm using the eeepc-lean kernel, btw
[08:09] <Scooma> o0Chris0o,  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:10] <Guest59186> Scooma, now I am on another pc which has a similar IDE (pata) and (sata) sharing mobo and windows is clearly the first hd in the box and linux is second and I always set them up like this
[08:10] <Guest59186> should I be just posting this in the channel not to someone in specific
[08:11] <illumin8> Guest59186: we see the messages if posted to specific or not.
[08:11] <Guest59186> anyway by having these hd disks setup like this I have ALWAYS installed grub at (hd0) and been able to boot both win and lin
[08:11] <illumin8> Guest59186: they are just highlighted to a target user if name preceeds.
[08:12] <illumin8> Guest59186:  I recently came in can you sum up your problem?
[08:12] <Guest59186> now something has definitely changed in how the ubuntu or just plain kernel detects hd s
[08:13] <simplexio> Guest59186: you should use UUIDS or labels, linux dosn't guarantee that order is allways same
[08:13] <Guest59186> illumin8, can you scroll back I will try again if u need
[08:13] <Guest59186> simplexio, you cant do that during install
[08:13] <illumin8> Guest59186: again i just joined the channel and my first message was your response to scoma
[08:14] <Guest59186> ok one sec cig time
[08:14] <Neaai> Hi. I have a pc with a Core2 Quad Intel. As it's a 64 bit processor, I was to download the 64 bit ubuntu cd from the site. But the filename to be saved has a name like "ubuntu-amd64.iso".   Is that AMD part of the name signifficant, when what I have is an Intel cpu ?
[08:14] <crdlb> Neaai: it's the same thing
[08:14] <illumin8> Neaai: how much ram do you have on your system
[08:15] <simplexio> Guest59186: i didnt get what was the problem
[08:15] <Neaai> illumin8: 4G
[08:15] <illumin8> Neaai: yep same thing.
[08:15] <Neaai> crdlb: then i guess that's what will get
[08:15] <rww> Neaai: the 64-bit architecture used by Core 2 was originally designed by AMD, and they named it amd64. I have a C2Quad and run it and it works fine :)
[08:15] <Neaai> illumin8: ok. commencing download
[08:16] <Neaai> rww: nice nice :D
[08:16] <adelie42> I have a dual monitor setup using twinview and I recall there being a way of setting up virtual screens that will allow windows when maximized to fill a predefined area. any help on locating a guide?
[08:16] <stabler> on my ibex box it reports 4 active users all of them are my username
[08:16] <illumin8> Neaai: reason i asked the ram is because 32 bit performs better evenif you have a 2 core system if you are under 4gb :)
[08:16] <stabler> is this bad?
[08:16] <mefisto__> Guest59186: /boot/grub/device.map can be edited so that your disks appear in whatever order you want. grub tries to get it right but it's not easy when there is a mix of disk types
[08:16] <rww> stabler: Nope. It reports an active user for each terminal you have open, plus one for your login session... that number's very misleading :)
[08:17] <crdlb> adelie42: that should happen automatically
[08:17] <crdlb> adelie42: however, due to the way twinview works, it'll only occur if you have both monitors plugged in when X starts
[08:17] <stabler> rww: thanks alot... it had me scared.. that makes sense
[08:17] <Neaai> illumin8: oh? I didn't know that
[08:17] <Guest59186> kay back
[08:17] <illumin8> Neaai: indeed, but with your ram you should enjoy 64 bit :)
[08:18] <adelie42> crdlb: right now when windows are maximized, they span both monitors
[08:18] <illumin8> Guest59186: backscroll, mefisto__ had a message to you.
[08:18] <chalcedony>  I have monitor setting problems : http://paste.ubuntu.com/130076/
[08:18] <wedwd> hello everybody, how to enable reiserfs support in ubuntu?
[08:18] <adelie42> which I thought was the default cause twinview makes X think there is just one big monitor
[08:19] <wedwd> is it normal that reiserfs is not even shipped as module or apt-get'able module? it has been a standart for years
[08:19] <crdlb> adelie42: there is an Xinerama extension used by the merged screen implmentation to tell apps where the physical monitors are in the screen
[08:19] <Guest59186> mefisto__, that not the point this is the girlfriends parents computer, I have had windows on hda sda (ide primary master for a long time) but have frequently changed distros on sata 0 or ide 3
[08:19] <chalcedony> adelie42: i like my two monitor setup.., just the settings are driving me mad.
[08:19] <Frogzoo> wedwd: I'm not sure reiser is even shipping these days, since reiser went down
[08:19] <wedwd> anyway, do i really have to compile a kernel to get ubuntu to mount my reiserfs partitions?
[08:19] <Guest59186> and have never had to change where grub is installed
[08:19] <Guest59186> till 8.10
[08:20] <wedwd> Frogzoo: i'm sure it is, download any kernel to see
[08:20] <Frogzoo> wedwd: the bigger problem is that reiser is no longer under development
[08:20] <Guest59186> its ALWAYS been (hd0)
[08:20] <crdlb> adelie42: this was originally invented for Xinerama (hence the name), but xinerama was not dynamically configurable (ie hotplug), so XRandR 1.2 had to make some changes to the protocol to make it work dynamically
[08:20] <wedwd> Frogzoo: that's what you say
[08:20] <adelie42> xenarama has its own problems. I would really like to use the twinview options
[08:20] <crdlb> adelie42: nvidia has not adopted those changes in twinview :/
[08:20] <Frogzoo> wedwd: it's what I've heard..
[08:20] <adelie42> hmm...
[08:20] <Guest59186> the is layer of dust on the drives to prove they have not been altered
[08:20] <wedwd> Frogzoo: you should not believe anything poeple tell you
[08:21] <wedwd> Frogzoo: it's open source, other programmers can maitain it you know
[08:21] <Frogzoo> wedwd: quite right
[08:21] <adelie42> so virtual screen spaces are only in xinerama?
[08:21] <stabler> i need to restart for updates but dont want to ruin my uptime... lol
[08:21] <Guest59186> now I have to install grub to (hd1)
[08:21] <stabler> :(
[08:21] <wedwd> Frogzoo: then, what b-tree-ish FS does ubuntu recommand?
[08:21] <Guest59186> this does not happen with any other distro
[08:21] <Frogzoo> wedwd: can other programmers maintain reiser's code?
[08:21] <P4r45|73> hi
[08:21] <wedwd> Frogzoo: of course, it's release under GNU license
[08:21] <P4r45|73> =)
[08:22] <crdlb> adelie42: no, twinview uses Xinerama hints too (they call it 'fakerama' colloquially)
[08:22] <wedwd> Frogzoo: what do you want to maintain a FS that has been working for 15 years?
[08:22] <edscho> Hi -- does anyone know what the + in this ls permissions field means: "drwxrwxrwx+" ?
[08:22] <wedwd> Frogzoo: even if you were talking about reiser4 that would be wrong
[08:22] <crdlb> adelie42: but they don't enable it unless there are two monitors plugged in when X starts
[08:23] <Guest59186> in fact when I install slackware it calls the windows drive (pata primary ide master) /dev/hda and the sata drive /dev/sdb which is way better imho
[08:23] <wedwd> because third party developers work on it, and develop plugins.... anyway, do i have to compile a kernel to mount a reiserfs partition?
[08:23] <adelie42> crdlb: don't plan on unplugging them
[08:23] <crdlb> adelie42: so you started X with both plugged in? :/
[08:23] <mefisto__> Guest59186: so what's your point? that you don't want ubuntu but prefer slackware?
[08:24] <wedwd> Frogzoo: it's cool that ubuntu ships a tainted kernel to make things "easier", but open source standarts should be supported, at least with apt-get install reiserfs-modules ...
[08:24] <Guest59186> the reason I am saying this is a thing it is a bug in the installer (this happens with jaunty as well)
[08:24] <Guest59186> and will break many ppls boxes that have an ide and sata mobo
[08:24] <adelie42> crdlb: yes, then used nvidia-settings to get it setup with twinview
[08:24] <Guest59186> that do not know how to configure grub
[08:24] <simplexio> wedwd: ? me thinks that reiserfs is in ubuntu kernel
[08:25] <crdlb> adelie42: hrm, maybe if you restart X now, it'll work
[08:25] <sebsebseb> murderfs
[08:25] <illumin8> edscho: i have a link that may explain it, looks like its due to ACL shares in samba
[08:25] <Guest59186> mefisto__, no that is not what I am saying
[08:25] <wedwd> simplexio: root@wedwd:~# modprobe reiserfs
[08:25] <wedwd> FATAL: Module reiserfs not found.
[08:25] <edscho> illumin8: thanks!
[08:25] <illumin8> edscho<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:25] <illumin8> edscho: take note of the replies
[08:26] <Guest59186> unless I have missed something that has changed
[08:26] <wedwd> running 2.6.24-19-lpia, i think that is ubuntu 8.04 or 8.10 i ignore
[08:26] <Guest59186> in the way installs go with ubuntu
[08:26] <simplexio> Guest59186: just like before... if you are making basic install. you install grub to one of your harddrives, then you tell bios to use it as first
[08:26] <edscho> illumin8: interesting -- but my filesystem is ext3!
[08:27] <wedwd> simplexio: mount: unknown filesystem type 'reiserfs'
[08:27] <gloom_> hi there
[08:27] <mefisto__> Guest59186: but it's difficult for grub to read minds and just know how you want your disks arranged. unless we go back to hda and sda names for disks. maybe there should be a question about it in the installer. maybe there is but it's not very prominent and easy to miss. file a bug and maybe someone will do something about it
[08:27] <wedwd> sorry, i know its not the distrib i need but i got it pre-installed on a cd-less machine so i need to mount my reiserfs stuff to overwrite /
[08:27] <illumin8> edscho: indeed but its possible the error could happen on any type of fs
[08:28] <illumin8> edscho: from what i can tell its directly related to samaba shares in the conf file.
[08:28] <simplexio> wedwd: intresting.. i installed ubuntu way back to reiserfs root, but again i use my own kernel so probably they have dropped support or something
[08:28] <gloom_> I'm using virtualbox 2.4.1 with ubuntu 8.10 as host, and Xp as guest. It seems impossible to get 1024x600 in the guest (xp) although I have installed the Guest additions. Has anyone fought with this?
[08:28] <deepz> when i try to open my application within firefox but firefox crashes on first usage. anyone knows why?
[08:29] <deepz> when i try to open my application within firefox ,firefox crashes on first usage. anyone knows why?
[08:29] <simplexio> deepz: try run firefox from console, attleast you see error
[08:29] <sebsebseb> gloom_: try #vbox
[08:29] <Guest59186> mefisto__, it has done it fine for years until now I have put ubuntu same hardware config since edgy and no problems till now, so I am asking here to see of there way a major change before I report it as a bug
[08:29] <simplexio> btw.. my firefox crashes too in few seconds after start to segmentation fault
[08:29] <wedwd> simplexio: i've got my kernel on my reiserfs partition
[08:29] <gloom_> sebsebseb, ok, thx
[08:29] <edscho> illumin8: i don't have any samba shares on my machine. i've just found some info online though: it might be ACLs. Thanks for the pointer though.
[08:29] <illumin8> edscho: while your reading on it also read this ubuntu on the same issue.http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=837605
[08:29] <Guest59186> simplexio, I not all boards do that
[08:30] <sebsebseb> gloom_: np bye
[08:30] <wedwd> indeed that's very interresting, i though i'd have a laptop supporting GNU/Linux because it ships with ubuntu, but it only supports Linux because it requires a proprietary driver
[08:30] <mefisto__> Guest59186: well all disks are /dev/sda /dev/sdb etc, so I suppose that's a major change
[08:30] <illumin8> edscho: indeed thats what i was saying, ACLs could have been enabled hope that directs you properly :)
[08:31] <deepz> simplexio: on console it works fine, it crashes when i open it in gui menu icon
[08:31] <simplexio> Guest59186: what i seens its pretty much standard way to handle sata/pata drives nowdays, example in my desktop it allways cycles all sata drives in every boot what was a turn out to be b in naother boot and then c
[08:31] <Ispci> anyone here familiar with mixmaster?
[08:32] <simplexio> deepz: well.. call it feature and start it from console.. :) and that is strange
[08:32] <Guest59186> mefisto__, but I have been doing these installs since that major change (can't remember when the kernel called all drives sdx)
[08:32] <wedwd> Ispci: the windows thing?
[08:32] <edscho> illumin8: thanks
[08:32] <Ispci> wedwd: no the unix remailer
[08:33] <EruditeHermit> hi, what should LD_LIBRARY_PATH be for a 64bit installation of Ubuntu? mine says /usr/lib32 and that is worrying me
[08:34] <Guest59186> simplexio, I have a gigabyte board at home that has an ok bios (misses some things) but shares this ide & sata config but you can not tell it which drive to boot first only just to use a hd instead of something else
[08:34] <mefisto__> Guest59186: so the issue is the install process, right? it's easier to screw up now than it used to be (at least in one way). file a bug and the ubuntu installer might improve
[08:34] <DinkyDogg> Hey there. I accidentally removed my admin user (not root, just my usual user) from all his groups on my install of Ubuntu Server. Any easy way to put him back in all the important groups, like the sudoers one?
[08:34] <edgimar> If I mount a SAMBA share via the Places->Connect to server menu-option, is there a way I can access it via the filesystem (i.e. is it mounted somewhere on the regular filesystem?)?
[08:34] <null> hey, my sound device, /dev/snd disappeared. it shows up in lspci.  i tried modprobing snd-hda-intel, but the module wasn't available to modprobe. so, i tried to compile the module, but the ./configure for snd-hda-intel says i've got alsa compiled into the kernel. i'm using an eee pc with the eeepc-lean kernel on 8.10. what else can i try?
[08:35] <deepz> simplexio: Is it a problem of plugin initialization?
[08:35] <simplexio> Guest59186: i think hd0 is allways bootable one
[08:35] <Guest59186> right I was just making sure I didn't miss something for why this has changed. like when I missed the change from /dev/hdx to everything sdx
[08:36] <Guest59186> ok will file
[08:37] <anto9us> DinkyDogg, this is what I'd try, start up in recovery mode and add your user to the adm group in /etc/group
[08:37] <Guest59186> thanks didn't mean to seem b^tch&
[08:37] <Brando753> is there a way for me to use my wifi card on ubuntu server?
[08:37] <Guest59186> just way a huge headache
[08:37] <Guest59186> -way + was
[08:38] <DinkyDogg> anto9us, i have a root user account i can use to re-add my guy to groups, i just wasn't sure which ones to re-add him to
[08:38] <DinkyDogg> i'm looking at my main user on my desktop ubuntu install and adding him to those
[08:38] <jigp> im using brasero.how to burn .iso.gz? if I open brasero, I cannot see the .iso.gz..
[08:38] <DinkyDogg> that'll probably do it
[08:38] <rocco> is there a quick way to load a "default" LCD monitor?  I have loaded glx on an NVIDIA Geforce 2 MX 440 64MB 3D Card but everytime I enable drivers I get out of range attempting 85 hz/255.9 Khz...
[08:38] <rocco> My LCD Monitor is "unknown"
[08:39] <DinkyDogg> rocco, this is a phenominally frustrating problem
[08:39] <Brando753> !wifi
[08:39] <DinkyDogg> rocco, most likely, the EDID data for your monitor is corrupted
[08:39] <rocco> ]it's a repeat for me...
[08:39] <rocco> i think never was any
[08:39] <rocco> new load
[08:39] <rocco> 8.1
[08:39] <Brando753> is there a way for me to use my wifi card on ubuntu server?
[08:40] <talntid> yes
[08:40] <talntid> its the same
[08:40] <DinkyDogg> rocco, absent or corrupted EDID data is my guess, take a look through your nvidia driver log for EDID info
[08:40] <Brando753> ?
[08:40] <lspcl> who had that brasereo question, i got DC;d
[08:40] <rocco> where is log? etc/x11?
[08:41] <rww> Brando753: There are command-line instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[08:41] <DinkyDogg> rocco, "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[08:41] <rocco> Dinky: looking
[08:41] <DinkyDogg> rocco, try grepping for "EDID" or "Edid" or "edid" or something
[08:42] <DinkyDogg> btw, is there a way to grep for stuff non-case-sensitive?
[08:43] <lspcl> Dinky: grep -i
[08:43] <DinkyDogg> lspcl, thanks
[08:43] <lspcl> Dinky: (ignores case)
[08:44] <DinkyDogg> rocco, try "grep -i edid /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[08:45] <rocco> (II) NV(0): Probing for EDID on I2C bus A...
[08:45] <rocco> (II) NV(0): I2C device "DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
[08:45] <rocco> (II) NV(0): I2C device "DDC:ddc2" removed.
[08:45] <rocco> (II) NV(0):   ... none found
[08:45] <rocco> (II) NV(0): Probing for EDID on I2C bus B...
[08:45] <rocco> (I
[08:45] <FloodBot1> rocco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:45] <DinkyDogg> rocco, i'm no expert, but that looks to me kind of like it's not finding an EDID
[08:45] <o0Chris0o> I can't find samba so I can view my network
[08:45] <illumin8> rocco you said you installed the nvidia restricted?
[08:46] <rocco> (II) NV(0): Probing for EDID on I2C bus A...
[08:46] <rocco> (II) NV(0): Probing for EDID on I2C bus B...
[08:46] <illumin8> rocco because that "nv" shows that you are using the ubuntu default nvidia drivers.
[08:46] <DinkyDogg> rocco, EDID = "Extended Display Identification Data", which is the plug n' play data that tells your video drivers stuff like monitor resolutions, refresh rates, etc.
[08:46] <DinkyDogg> rocco, without the EDID, nvidia drivers get very confused
[08:46] <rocco> that's why the LCD is "unknown"
[08:46] <DinkyDogg> rocco, that's my guess
[08:46] <lspcl> u try installing drivers via envy?
[08:47] <DinkyDogg> rocco, in theory, there are workarounds, you should be able to tell the drivers to read the EDID from a file, but i've had no luck getting that to work
[08:47] <rocco> no kiddin??  Is there a way i can take a generic profile & lie to it or something forcing 1024x768x72hz?
[08:47] <DinkyDogg> rocco, you can hand-craft an edid and try to force it to read it from a file
[08:47] <DinkyDogg> rocco, but this is a real pain in the ass
[08:47] <rocco> restricted 96 - yes...
[08:47] <DinkyDogg> rocco, i ended up paying a guy who was selling an identical monitor on ebay to send me the edid for it
[08:48] <DinkyDogg> rocco, a week after i fixed my monitor's EDID it died for good
[08:48] <DinkyDogg> rocco, a broken EDID is a real pain
[08:48] <rocco> i did an xorg reset to get my screen back.
[08:48] <DinkyDogg> rocco, http://www.geocities.com/jgeneedid/
[08:49] <illumin8> are edids specific to each monitor like part numbers or general
[08:49] <illumin8> if they are general perhaps a google of the monitors edid would result in one?
[08:49] <DinkyDogg> illumin8, they're generally specific to the monitor model, but not to each monitor itself
[08:49] <DinkyDogg> rocco, what model of monitor are you using?
[08:51] <rocco> SOYO 17" LCD
[08:51] <DinkyDogg> got a model number?
[08:51] <rocco> got what i paid for ;)
[08:51] <rocco> MT-NI-BLAH BLAH...
[08:52] <DinkyDogg> rocco, find the full model number and google for an EDID for it
[08:53] <DinkyDogg> rocco, it's weird that there is no EDID at all
[08:53] <rocco> MT-NI-DYLM1788
[08:53] <antoine> I think I'm gonna die. When will some supergeek fix all the sound issues in ubuntu
[08:53] <DinkyDogg> rocco, no luck on google :/
[08:53] <antoine> it's unbearable
[08:53] <rocco> NO surprise...
[08:53] <BlackAeronaut> Howdy all.  I've been having trouble installing 64-bit Ubuntu 8.10 onto a Toshiba Satellite A355D (AMD Turion X2 64-Bit).  It never finishes the install - it just gives me Terminal.
[08:53] <o0Chris0o> how do I enable samba?
[08:53] <antoine> this one will definitely be my heroe
[08:54] <DinkyDogg> antoine, there are so many audio systems for linux that it makes it real hard for devs to get audio working consistenly across distros
[08:54] <rocco> It worked on 8.04... will keep searching for someone who already solved or worked around...
[08:54] <DinkyDogg> rocco, good luck
[08:54] <rocco> ok thx
[08:55] <antoine> DinkyDogg: yeah.. I suppose the problem is not obvious to solve, definitely
[08:55] <antoine> but then again, I can't have several software using the sound system at the same time, or anyways if I can it strongly depends on the order in which I launched them
[08:55] <antoine> it's incredible...
[08:55] <shoaib> I am trying to install xf86-video-intel-2.6.0 downloaded from intellinuxgraphics site for my VAIO FW230J/H, I am getting this error message on configure. See: http://pastebin.com/m1e796e32
[08:55] <illumin8> rocco: possible to use 8.04 live cd to get the Xorg.log and do a comparison?
[08:55] <DinkyDogg> antoine, agreed, sound in linux is a real pain
[08:55] <antoine> I really love linux
[08:56] <antoine> but I work in sound industry
[08:56] <DinkyDogg> illumin8, rocco, this is a good idea, see if it's still unidentified in 8.04
[08:56] <antoine> I heard this can be fixed by buying some external hardware ?
[08:56] <o0Chris0o> you can always dual boot antoine
[08:56] <DinkyDogg> antoine, dunno
[08:56] <null> hey, my sound device, /dev/snd disappeared. it shows up in lspci.  i tried modprobing snd-hda-intel, but the module wasn't available to modprobe. so, i tried to compile the module, but the ./configure for snd-hda-intel says i've got alsa compiled into the kernel. i'm using an eee pc with the eeepc-lean kernel on 8.10. what else can i try?
[08:56] <antoine> o0Chris0o:  well, yeah, for sure
[08:56] <kernel> ?
[08:57] <antoine> but I'm really involved in creative commons and such things, it would be great to switch for good
[08:58] <antoine> I would give money to a project trying to code universal drivers for linux or such things, is there some thing like this ?
[08:59] <gizmo> i/dd?: maybe but would have to reload an 8.04 to do it...
[08:59] <DinkyDogg> gizmo, highlight us when you talk so we see your messages
[08:59] <DinkyDogg> gizmo, boot from an 8.04 cd and see
[09:00] <gizmo> i'll take a look in another system & see if it has the same card may be an FX5200...
[09:00] <beardbar> Hi guys, what to do if I restarted and now I boot to a terminal window login rather then kde?
[09:01] <dronix> ctrl+F2
[09:01] <BlackAeronaut> Help!  Trying to install Ubuntu 64-Bit 8.10 onto a Toshiba Satellite A355D series laptop (AMD Turion x2 64-Bit) - installation never finishes, it just dumps me into Terminal.
[09:01] <DinkyDogg> BlackAeronaut, does it give you any sort of error or status message?
[09:01] <gizmo> DD: don't know about highlight - i'm rocco
[09:02] <DinkyDogg> gizmo, when i say highlight, i mean include my name in the message, like i do for you. In most clients that'll highlight the line so it stands out
[09:02] <quibbler> !samba | o0Chris0o
[09:02] <illumin8> gizmo: he means to preceed the statements with a name :)
[09:02] <BlackAeronaut> DinkyDogg: Negative.  Just the prompt: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[09:02] <DinkyDogg> BlackAeronaut, that's weird. Dunno what to tell you.
[09:03] <BlackAeronaut> DinkyDogg: Tried running startx, but I get a weird error.
[09:03] <rocco> dinkydogg, ok will do... never used a client with that feature...
[09:03] <DinkyDogg> rocco, xchat ought to do it.
[09:03] <illumin8> BlackAeronaut: possibly a dirty or corrupted install disk?
[09:04] <BlackAeronaut> illumin8: Don't think so.  Downloaded recently directly from Tokyo.  I'm in Yokosuka.
[09:04] <DinkyDogg> BlackAeronaut, there's your problem. USA is where it's at :)
[09:05] <BlackAeronaut> DinkyDogg: They got the best servers here in Japan, dude.  :p
[09:05] <BlackAeronaut> Not to mention some of the best infrastucture./
[09:06] <beardbar> im getting a kinit: no resume image, doing normal boot... and then a login prompt.
[09:06] <illumin8> BlackAeronaut: are you running the livecd now?
[09:06] <beardbar> I installed nvidia drivers and then restarted  so not sure what to do from here to get back in to kde
[09:07] <BlackAeronaut> illumin8: Negative.  This is after an instal from within Windows.
[09:07] <null> hey, my sound device, /dev/snd disappeared. it shows up in lspci.  i tried modprobing snd-hda-intel, but the module wasn't available to modprobe. so, i tried to compile the module, but the ./configure for snd-hda-intel says i've got alsa compiled into the kernel. i'm using an eee pc with the eeepc-lean kernel on 8.10. what else can i try?
[09:07] <DinkyDogg> BlackAeronaut, i've never used the windows install, dunno how reliable it is
[09:07] <DinkyDogg> BlackAeronaut, you can always try a live CD install, those are more common
[09:07] <illumin8> BlackAeronaut: I would try to boot into live mode from the cd, see if everything loads properly. If not it could be a corrupted disk or point you to errors.
[09:08] <rocco> DinkyDogg, looks like you are showing up yellow - i loaded gnome xchat for the 1st time will have a look next time i go back to the other xchat & see if it behaves the same way - thx for  the tip
[09:08] <BlackAeronaut> Had to do it that way.  For whatever reason, the disk I burned from the ISO is no good and I don't feel like wasting another one.
[09:08] <baz> if i wanted to try out xfce i could just install it and login in with it right? Are there ever problems with that? I heard it could get screwy with different things and maybe even alter your gnome?
[09:08] <BlackAeronaut> Thus, I installed by mounting the ISO from within Windows.
[09:09] <illumin8> BlackAeronaut: cant guarentee this would resolve it but Wubi perhaps?
[09:09] <BlackAeronaut> illumin8: Wubi?
[09:09] <DinkyDogg> BlackAeronaut, if you can figure out how to burn a working Live CD, you'd probably have better luck
[09:09] <DinkyDogg> BlackAeronaut, wubi is the name of the ubuntu installer from windows
[09:09] <quibbler> !wubi | BlackAeronaut
[09:10] <BlackAeronaut> DinkyDogg: For whatever reason, I get the same damn results running live CD.
[09:10] <DinkyDogg> BlackAeronaut, okay, that's weird
[09:10] <knut> is it possible to replace the progress bar of gnome with an avi file??
[09:10] <illumin8> BlackAeronaut: See part of the problem could be an attempt to mount a iso from within windows (the drive is in use) while installing ot the same drive.
[09:10] <illumin8> to*
[09:11] <BlackAeronaut> illumin8: Way ahead of you.  I partitioned mine into separate drives.
[09:11] <BlackAeronaut> And the ISO's on an external.
[09:11] <illumin8> BlackAeronaut: Ah. Perplexing :)
[09:11] <BlackAeronaut> illumin8: Thanks.  I try to be.  ;)
[09:11] <dronix> BlackAeronaut: you'll need to burn your iso in order to install ubuntu into the new partition, the only way to do it from within windows is wubi, as already recommended
[09:12] <confuzzled> anyone here had experience with bonding network interfaces?
[09:12] <BlackAeronaut> dronix: Thanks.  I'll give Wubi a shot.  If that's a no go, then I gotta head back home to burn another disk.  Man, I hate wasting those things.
[09:12] <illumin8> Wubi will work :)
[09:12] <DinkyDogg> wait, i thought he was already using wubi?
[09:13] <DinkyDogg> how else do you install from windows?
[09:13] <illumin8> Na hes using an iso to install from an external
[09:13] <DinkyDogg> oh
[09:13] <null> hey, my sound device, /dev/snd disappeared. it shows up in lspci.  i tried modprobing snd-hda-intel, but the module wasn't available to modprobe. so, i tried to compile the module, but the ./configure for snd-hda-intel says i've got alsa compiled into the kernel. i'm using an eee pc with the eeepc-lean kernel on 8.10. what else can i try?
[09:13] <chalcedony> what's the name of the gnome text window thing?
[09:13] <dronix> btw, you can install ubuntu from a usb drive aswell
[09:13] <elsdfr> hi i have flash with on firfox in kubuntu 64 but now i just get a gray box
[09:13] <dronix> gedit, chalcedony?
[09:13] <quibbler> BlackAeronaut: check MD5 Sum of the iso before you burn
[09:13] <chalcedony> YES
[09:13] <chalcedony> thank you dronix :)
[09:13] <BlackAeronaut> quibbler: How do I do that?
[09:14] <DinkyDogg> elsdfr, i have same problem very often. Flash is horribly buggy in linux. Dunno about a fix.
[09:14] <BlackAeronaut> quibbler: Is that a feature in burning software?
[09:14] <DinkyDogg> BlackAeronaut, it's a bit of a pain. YOu'd be better off burning a live CD
[09:14] <elsdfr> so what do you do to see flash?
[09:14] <DinkyDogg> elsdfr, for me it sometimes works
[09:14] <confuzzled> bonding anyone?
[09:14] <DinkyDogg> elsdfr, so i just restart the browser until it works
[09:14] <quibbler> BlackAeronaut: google MD5 Sum
[09:15] <dronix> elsdrf: you need to install flash, use your synaptic manger and search flash, most popular is the "adobe flash"
[09:15] <illumin8> confuzzled: sorry not very good with networks
[09:15] <SleeplessInVanco> hello folks
[09:15] <confuzzled> sweet
[09:15] <confuzzled> ty
[09:15] <DinkyDogg> BlackAeronaut, winmd5sum will check the checksum for you, but i doubt that's your problem
[09:15] <SleeplessInVanco> any experience with installing the enterprise viewer edition of vncviewer (vnc-E4_4_3-x86_linux_viewer) ?
[09:16] <DinkyDogg> confuzzled, try taking your network to a movie
[09:16] <DinkyDogg> (to help with bonding)
[09:16] <BlackAeronaut> What kinda confuses me is that the mounting software I use mounts the ISO as a virtual CD-ROM drive, with all the bells and whistles.  Ergo, it behaves as though you've actually stuck the CD in the drive (at least as long as windows is running).
[09:16] <confuzzled> yeah, I'm sure that will work :P
[09:16] <dronix> BlackAeronaut: thats called a virtual hardware, I use Alcohol 120
[09:17] <SleeplessInVanco> anybody with any experience with installing the enterprise viewer edition of vncviewer (vnc-E4_4_3-x86_linux_viewer) ?
[09:17] <BlackAeronaut> dronix: Using Magic ISO myself.
[09:17] <confuzzled> can anyone suggest a better place to ask, I have bonding working over 2 interfaces in active-passive, but after a few hours I start seeing really weird behaviour, and lose connectivity etc
[09:18] <MasterZ> i'm beginning to think I should have made multiple smaller partition instead of using 1 huge partition
[09:18] <misse_> Hi. Just yesterday, I changed my PAM configuration on my server from MD5 to blowfish (or so I thought) and today I can't log in via SSH (ftp works strangely enough) I followed http://ludoa.wordpress.com/2007/04/02/moving-from-md5-to-blowfish-on-debianubuntu/.. Does anybody have an idea how to go about to remotely fix whatever fault I caused to re-enable ssh logins?
[09:19] <knut> is it possible to implement *avi - files into the progress window of nautilus?? like in windows where you see a pice of paper flying from left to right??
[09:19] <BlackAeronaut> There is one thing I think you guys should see, though.  It's the error message I get when I tried StartX.  It's pretty odd.  http://pastebin.com/m31206c70
[09:19] <null> hey, my sound device, /dev/snd disappeared. it shows up in lspci.  i tried modprobing snd-hda-intel, but the module wasn't available to modprobe. so, i tried to compile the module, but the ./configure for snd-hda-intel says i've got alsa compiled into the kernel. i'm using an eee pc with the eeepc-lean kernel on 8.10. what else can i try?
[09:20] <DinkyDogg> BlackAeronaut, that clears it up. You obviously don't have a monitor. Go out and buy one.
[09:20] <BlackAeronaut> DinkyDogg: Your kidding, right?
[09:21] <DinkyDogg> haha yes
[09:21] <gfather> hello guys
[09:21] <BlackAeronaut> Bastard.  :)
[09:21] <gfather> how do i update mplayer and mencoder binaries ?
[09:22] <BlackAeronaut> Aren't updates like that usually handled by synaptic package handler when it goes out to grab the latest udpates from the repositories?
[09:23] <DinkyDogg> gfather, they should be up to date. Are you looking for restricted codecs, maybe?
[09:24] <knut> gfather: maybe you can go to the homepage of mplayer to get the latest version, because the one in the ubuntu repos often is not the newest
[09:24] <dokuhebi> gfather: are you looking to compile your own?
[09:25] <gfather> :S
[09:25] <dokuhebi> if you don't feel like compiling your own (which can be an arduous process to get all the dependencies in place), I would stick to the repositories
[09:25] <gfather> well im using a transcoding application
[09:25] <haytham-med> hi all, i have probrl in using ubuntu as  guest os :failed to load module vboxvideo
[09:25] <gfather> and it has some problems ,
[09:25] <gfather> it dont transcode :)
[09:26] <gfather> and i was advised to upadte the mplayer/mencoder binaries
[09:26] <haytham-med> problem*
[09:26] <gfather> so the only way is to compile ?
[09:26] <DinkyDogg> gfather, the problem is probably not the binaries themselves, but the codecs
[09:27] <DinkyDogg> gfather, a lot of codecs can't be included with linux distros right off the bat for IP reasons
[09:27] <gfather> DinkyDogg ya , thats maybe to
[09:27] <DinkyDogg> gfather, look for info on installing restricted codecs in ubuntu
[09:27] <gfather> DinkyDogg but i downloaded all the codecs
[09:27] <DinkyDogg> gfather, ah
[09:27] <DinkyDogg> gfather, dunno then
[09:27] <Raj_> Hi friends
[09:28] <DinkyDogg> hallo Raj_
[09:28] <Dexi> anyone know when Digsby is gonna be released on linux?
[09:28] <Raj_> Well I got a problem, my window title bar got disappeared
[09:28] <nubuntu> ?
[09:28] <gfather> knut how much old ?
[09:28] <BlackAeronaut> illumin8: did you see that error message I posted?
[09:29] <dokuhebi> dexi:
[09:29] <Dexi> dokuhebi:
[09:29] <dokuhebi> dexi: "soon"
[09:29] <dokuhebi> :-)
[09:29] <Dexi> thanks.
[09:29] <dokuhebi> http://www.digsby.com/signup/maclinux/?os=linux
[09:29] <FloodBot1> dokuhebi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:29] <Dexi> yeah im on the email but i have also been on it for a while
[09:29] <nubuntu> funk
[09:30] <Dexi> i thought soon meant like... "sometime next month"
[09:30] <Dexi> maybe theyre like video game companies
[09:30] <nubuntu> you mei you ren
[09:30] <nubuntu> ni men shi shui
[09:30] <Dexi> "Game X will be released soon!"
[09:30] <Dexi> "Game X to be released Sept 1"
[09:30] <Dexi> august 15th comes...
[09:30] <dokuhebi> right after Duke Nukem Forever
[09:30] <Dexi> "Game X to be released Dec 1"
[09:31] <Dexi> nov 15 comes...
[09:31] <Raj_> :| any solution to make window normal???
[09:31] <Dexi> "Game X has been put on indefinite hiatus."