[08:10] <ian_> http://usalug.org/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=62   ..... any suggestion with this i want to upgrade my version
[08:10] <starsky> yeah!
[08:11] <marcrosoft> starsky, odd that find command didnt find it
[08:11] <starsky> run that now, with 'sudo /usr/sbin/hald --daemon=yes'
[08:11] <mon^rch> nite all
[08:11] <starsky> 8)
[08:11] <marcrosoft> starsky, doesn't seem to come up
[08:12] <starsky> tata mon^rch
[08:12] <starsky> did it execute ?
[08:12] <marcrosoft> starsky, i think so.. but nothing showed up in ps
[08:12] <starsky> 'sudo /usr/sbin/hald --daemon=yes --verbose=yes'
[08:13] <starsky> ps -ef | grep 'hald' ?
[08:13] <marcrosoft> mark     26585 23087  0 00:14 pts/5    00:00:00 grep hald
[08:14] <starsky> tail -f /var/log/messages ?
[08:14] <ReinH> solved my own problem :) find -name '*.swp' -exec rm '{}' \;
[08:15] <ltR222> Hello, if i update to edgy is it the FINAL FINAL RELEASE ?
[08:15] <ltR222> is it safe to upgrade
[08:15] <Fracture> ltR222: no
[08:15] <Ademan> there isnt a way to make VIM's window splits be GUI based as opposed to just splitting the window with ascii |   is there?
[08:15] <Ademan> ltR222: no its not safe yet
[08:15] <ltR222> Oh, Okay
[08:15] <griffindodd> man am I insane or is there some trick o installing Amorak on Gnome??
[08:16] <marcrosoft> starsky, what should i be looking for here
[08:16] <Fracture> ltR222: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:16] <Ademan> but if you were to, you'd open up /etc/apt/sources.list and replace everything that says "dapper" with "edgy"
[08:16] <excelblue> what's the difference between the Ubuntu CD and DVD?
[08:16] <IceCreamMatt> anyone know how to unshare the folder /var/backup or prevent it from being accessed via samba share?
[08:16] <Ademan> griffindodd: no tricks afaik, wht seems to be the problem?
[08:16] <marcrosoft> Oct 17 23:52:00 localhost kernel: [17210734.784000]  usb 3-1: USB disconnect, add ress 3
[08:16] <ianmacgregor> griffindodd: sudo apt-get install amarok ?
[08:16] <marcrosoft> was the last item
[08:16] <BHSPitLappy> excelblue, the dvd is more bloated
[08:16] <starsky> 'cat /var/log/messages | grep hald' is what you need, try to see what the problem is with the hald
[08:17] <griffindodd> ademan and aian...: When I try and run Amorak after installing it nothing happens, it doesn't launch
[08:17] <bozo_> ndiswrapper... anyone?
[08:17] <Ademan> griffindodd: and you added it through apt?
[08:17] <ianmacgregor> griffindodd: Try running it from a term and see if there is any error output
[08:17] <griffindodd> ademan: yups
[08:17] <marcrosoft> starsky, that comes up with nothing
[08:17] <griffindodd> ok
[08:17] <Ademan> griffindodd: huh... do what ianmacgregor said
[08:17] <griffindodd> kk
[08:18] <Ademan> wait... ianmacgregor. are you a macgregor? lol
[08:18] <ianmacgregor> Ademan: What gave you that idea? lol
[08:18] <griffindodd> flaoting point exception???
[08:18] <starsky> macrosoft, last resort is still left, re-install it using synaptic. anyone here can look into macrosoft's problem ?
[08:18] <Ademan> lol, i'm a macgregor too, but like... way down the line haha
[08:19] <marcrosoft> starsky, ok, I will try that now
[08:19] <ianmacgregor> Ademan: Small world :)
[08:19] <Ademan> griffindodd: huhm just like a KDE app to divide by zero :-p
[08:19] <Ademan> but seriously
[08:19] <griffindodd> odd
[08:19] <marcrosoft> starsky, brb
[08:19] <Ademan> that's very wierd
[08:21] <Geoffrey2> Tomcat_, this is the stuff that proves how very much I still need to learn....now it's complaining there's no writable keyring
[08:23] <Tomcat_> Geoffrey2: All files in .gnupg need to have the same owner/group and permissions... <youruser>.<yourgroup> and 600... unfortunately I need to go, so somebody else needs to help you. :\
[08:24] <Geoffrey2> Tomcat_, ok, thanks for your help
[08:24] <marcrosoft> starsky, sill failing to initialize HAL... also it says the power manager cannot start until you start the dbus system service
[08:25] <Wiseguy> have any of you guys used anything bluetooth with ubuntu?
[08:26] <Psychobudgie> I've used my Sony mobile with it
[08:26] <starsky> marrosoft: here's the people who'll help you out #hal
[08:26] <starsky> go to that channel.
[08:26] <ReverseBlade> Wiseguy, I did
[08:27] <yellowtime> hello
[08:27] <Wiseguy> im just thinking about getting a bluetooth mouse for my laptop, and im just not 100% sure on the compatibility
[08:27] <starsky> sorry mate, couldn't be of help. hope it get's fixed. #hald  on freenode.net (sorry at freenode.net)
[08:28] <jos_> haai
[08:28] <marcrosoft> starsky, do you think the power issue is related?
[08:28] <yellowtime> what kind of laptop?
[08:28] <Wiseguy> yellowtime, ive got an acer travelmate 290...
[08:28] <jos_> is er iemand die nederlansd spreekt
[08:29] <ReverseBlade> Wiseguy, I'll tell you what I did. I manage to connect gprs via my cellphone with bluetooth on ubuntu. Also made some file transfers. But did not tried anything other than a cell phone. It will work but you will have to dig in bluetooth stuff
[08:29] <marcrosoft> starsky, thanks for your help
[08:29] <yellowtime> I want an ibm
[08:29] <starsky> marcrosoft: maybe. but not that likely. hal controls the device drivers .. no problem as i said #hal on freenode.net
[08:29] <Wiseguy> ReverseBlade, a cellphone is alittle bit more complicated than what i need though, im just looking to get a mouse to work so i dont have to carry around a receiver
[08:30] <marcrosoft> starsky, yeah i am in the hal channel now :)
[08:30] <starsky> goodluck.
[08:30] <yellowtime> Can someone help me with a printing problem?
[08:30] <ReverseBlade> Wiseguy, I say it will work 90% probability. But it will be painful
[08:31] <ReverseBlade> Wiseguy, to set it up
[08:31] <yellowtime> To get it working
[08:31] <yellowtime> with linux
[08:31] <ReverseBlade> yellowtime, what is your printers brand ?
[08:31] <marcrosoft> starsky, going to try this  http://easylinuxguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=68.msg233
[08:31] <marcrosoft> wish me luck
[08:31] <marcrosoft> brb
[08:31] <yellowtime> hp
[08:31] <yellowtime> 2610
[08:31] <yellowtime> all in one
[08:32] <ReverseBlade> hp has a support for printing in linux usally
[08:32] <ReverseBlade> try to dig in forum pages and wiki
[08:32] <ReverseBlade> it is easy
[08:32] <yellowtime> I've tried to do this but still cannot seem to get it workingg
[08:33] <yellowtime> lpr say command not found
[08:33] <yellowtime> lp says no default destination
[08:34] <yellowtime> any ideas?
[08:34] <French> I was wondering if I could get some help :)! Its pretty simple, I want to know if I can change the colour of the text in the task bar, Can anyone help me? The forums have nothing :(
[08:34] <ReverseBlade> yellowtime, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpPrinterInstallationAndMaintenanceDapper
[08:35] <yellowtime> thanks for the link
[08:35] <ReverseBlade> your welcome
[08:36] <DraconPern> I have already installed ubuntu, grub is on the mbr, I need to relocate my grub to /dev/sd6
[08:36] <DraconPern> how do I do that?
[08:37] <ReverseBlade> !grub
[08:37] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:37] <ReverseBlade> DraconPern, also #grub
[08:38] <yellowtime> Does anyone know if the Ecs 482-m motherboard is compatible with ubuntu and linux in general?
[08:39] <yellowtime> It is rs482-m
[08:40] <griffindodd> can anyone recommend a powerful music player/library for gnome?
[08:40] <whyso> if i said copy to another partition, it shoudl be O.K. to format the origional partition without losing data right
[08:41] <DraconPern> does the find command in grub actually work?  It just says 'error 15: file not found'
[08:41] <yellowtime> a good music player is xmms
[08:41] <Jewfro> yellowtime, is your specific question about the onboard LAN or onboard video?
[08:41] <yellowtime> No I just want to know if the board in general is compatible
[08:42] <rhett> i haven't used ubuntu since warty
[08:42] <wastrel> hi hi
[08:42] <rhett> is it really more popular than fedora now?
[08:42] <wastrel> funny i've been using ubuntu since warty
[08:42] <starsky> !vlc > griffindodd
[08:42] <wastrel> it really is quite popular.
[08:42] <whyso> when you use the copy folder feature it makes a new copy, not a link right
[08:42] <rhett> i'm downloading the desktop cd
[08:42] <rhett> i guess i'll give it a try
[08:43] <griffindodd> startsky: I have 7000+ songs, I need good library functions too
[08:43] <Jewfro> yellowtime, why wouldn't it be? There are sometimes problems with certain mobo features, LAN, video, RAID, etc
[08:43] <starsky> !amarok > griffindodd
[08:43] <whyso> griffindodd: lightweight :)
[08:43] <Lam_> rhett: just a heads up, the new 6.10 Edgy Eft release comes out next thursday
[08:43] <Jewfro> but you'll have to check the hardware compatibility list against the specific features instead of the mobo
[08:43] <starsky> !xmms > griffindodd
[08:43] <rhett> how do i upgrade to edgy then?
[08:43] <yellowtime> Have you heard of this particular mobo having problems
[08:44] <synd3> Best P2P app available in ubuntu's apt?
[08:44] <starsky> griiffindodd: I'd go for vlc.
[08:44] <synd3> Gnutella, that is
[08:44] <rhett> no offense, but I had lots of problems with warty
[08:44] <Lam_> rhett: from dapper, you can run $sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  to upgrade to beta right now, or just wait till next thursday
[08:44] <yellowtime> jewfro?
[08:44] <Jewfro> yellowtime, never ran linux on one personally. Installed plenty of them for customers, but always w/windows
[08:44] <Lam_> rhett: ubuntu has gone a long ways since warty
[08:44] <rhett> it was very difficult to upgrade firefox and mysql in warty, i remember
[08:44] <yellowtime> Ok
[08:44] <griffindodd> he he, I'll try em, although I haven't seen anything as strong as 'Listen Player' yet but it doesn't appear to play wma
[08:45] <yellowtime> I tried looking on the web for compatibility but did not get a straight answer
[08:45] <Jewfro> yellowtime, you won't get one on the "mobo", you'll have to check the specific components
[08:45] <_azrael> Is there a way to unfreeze a terminal that's recieved ^S ?
[08:45] <_azrael> *How does one unfreeze a terminal that's recieved ^S?
[08:45] <synd3> Best Gnutella P2P app available in ubuntu's apt?
[08:45] <rhett> My main concern is that I have 2 lcds and it's hard to get xorg configured on my old fedora 3 setup.  So, i'm correct that ubuntu is popular enough, it should be able to figure it out now, right?
[08:45] <rhett> an nvidia graphics card as well
[08:46] <starsky> !xmms-wma
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmms-wma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <starsky> !wma-xmms
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wma-xmms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <wastrel> _azrael try ^r
[08:46] <smotang> How do I use a Bin file?
[08:47] <ReverseBlade> synd emule ?
[08:47] <Jewfro> Anyone know how to fix this: W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[08:47] <Jewfro> ?
[08:47] <_azrael> wastrel: Doesn't fix the problem. It's in vim, does that help?
[08:47] <wastrel> sorry i dunno then
[08:48] <yellowtime> jewfro, I enter lpinfo -v and I see hp/nodevice found as one of the entrys. any Ideas
[08:48] <starsky> Jewfro: AFAIK you need to import the gpg keyring.
[08:48] <Jewfro> print?
[08:48] <Jewfro> yellowtime, printer I mean?
[08:48] <Jewfro> starsky, how?
[08:49] <yellowtime> Yes+
[08:49] <starsky> Jewfro: don't know.
[08:49] <Jewfro> me either!
[08:49] <starsky> ok
[08:49] <Jewfro> I was playing with easyubuntu, and that happened, sigh...
[08:50] <starsky> gpg --help
[08:50] <wastrel> well couldn't you just remove the freecontrib.org repository
[08:50] <smotang> !bin
[08:50] <mlLk> is there any windows64x problems while installing ubuntu?
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <starsky> !blobber
[08:51] <Jewfro> starsky, duh!, thanks, sometimes I need to be reminded of the obvious
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blobber - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <smotang> Anyone know how to unpack/run a bin file in ubuntu?
[08:51] <Ignatius> guys, I have gigs of ram and I'd like to define a dvd rip program to use it as cache instead of some directory on my hd. is that wise / possible? :)
[08:51] <ianmacgregor> smotang: sh file.bin
[08:51] <Jewfro> smotang, I may be wrong, but aren't those the ones you do via ./configure?
[08:51] <starsky> Jewfro: gpg --help | grep 'import' probably ?
[08:52] <Jewfro> ianmacgregor, ah yes, like americas army sh ./americasarmy, YES!
[08:52] <wastrel> smotang what program, did you check to see if it's in the repos first?
[08:52] <Ignatius> so to continue my question is the random access memory located somewhere like /dev/ or anything?
[08:52] <smotang> thanks! ian
[08:52] <ianmacgregor> smotang: You're welcome :)
[08:53] <mnepton> Ignatius: Linux handles virtual memory on its own. user intervention is not required, and is strongly discouraged.
[08:54] <smotang> wastrel what did you mean by repos?
[08:55] <smotang> I tried the sh file.bin command from terminal it didnt work, came up with an unable to run binary? should i maybe run it through root? Using sudo perhaps?
[08:55] <Jewfro> smotang, repositories, trying typing "sudo aptitude install xxx" from command line, xxx being the program name
[08:56] <mnepton> smotang: try just ./filename.bin
[08:56] <mnepton> smotang: what app is this?
[08:56] <Jewfro> smotang, and yes, run that as root, if it's not in the repositories and that's the only way to install it.
[08:56] <smotang> it is
[08:56] <smotang> the planeshift client
[08:57] <smotang> its a free mmo that has a linux client
[08:57] <pckim93> Hi, can I ask abou ubuntu installation on core 2 duo?
[08:57] <mnepton> !ask
[08:57] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:57] <smotang> sudo sh PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin is that the way i should word the command?
[08:57] <pckim93> OK.  I have a new machine (G965 chipset (E6400))
[08:58] <smotang> thanks jewfro
[08:58] <Jewfro> smotang sudo sh ./filename
[08:58] <mnepton> smotang: no, just "./Plane<tab><enter>"
[08:58] <pckim93> And I tried installing Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS Desktop and 6.10 Beta as well..
[08:58] <smotang> ah thanks!
[08:58] <mnepton> Jewfro: the file in question may not be a sheel script.
[08:58] <mnepton> *shell
[08:58] <pckim93> but it hangs while trying to load the CD.
[08:59] <mnepton> hooboy. the 965.
[08:59] <pckim93> yes...
[08:59] <smotang> it says error executing file.
[08:59] <Jewfro> what error?
[08:59] <smotang> cannot execute binary file
[08:59] <mnepton> Intel has not yet been entirely forthcoming about the 965. support is ... spotty.
[08:59] <pckim93> I've been looking for some answers in forums...
[08:59] <pckim93> I see.
[08:59] <smotang> any ideas?
[08:59] <mnepton> smotang: ls -l Plane<tab><enter>
[08:59] <pckim93> So it can't be done?
[09:00] <Caplain> is there direct3d support for wine?
[09:00] <mnepton> pckim93: it can be done, but is problematic
[09:00] <smotang> it doesnt do anything when i hit tab?
[09:00] <pckim93> problematic meaning hard or not usable?
[09:01] <mnepton> smotang: it should auto-complete that long filename for you.
[09:01] <smotang> it just beeps
[09:01] <Jewfro> autocomplete yourself then
[09:01] <ianmacgregor> smotang: I figured you wouldn't be able to run it if sh file.bin didn't work. It doesn't mater if it isn't a shell script, sh file.bin should work if it's a bin file
[09:01] <mnepton> pckim93: problematic meaning "in our lab we have 965-based stuff where one SATA controller works, one does not. sound works on Dapper, not on Edgy."   I don't care about sound for now...
[09:02] <Caplain> ubuntu - page 3 of "things that go beep vol 4"
[09:02] <pckim93> I'm trying to run vmware (which might also be an issue, I guess)...
[09:02] <pckim93> vmware server
[09:02] <pckim93> and I would like to run a ubuntu server inside it.
[09:02] <pckim93> as a virtual machine
[09:03] <pckim93> so first, I need to install ubuntu desktop, then install vmware server, then install ubuntu server in a VM.
[09:03] <pckim93> I hope this is doable.
[09:03] <smotang> Jewfro: i tried that, it still says it cannot execute binary
[09:03] <mnepton> pckim93: you're missing the point. Intel has not released full specs for the 965. so Linux support for it is not good. this means the sound may or may not work, depending on your implementation. it also means that Linux may well just stop seeing the hard drive one day. or the NIC. or who knows what.
[09:03] <Caplain> pckim93: vmware?
[09:03] <mnepton> pckim93: this is why one does not buy hardware on the bleeding edge. scabs suck. ;)
[09:04] <Caplain> lol
[09:04] <pckim93> I didn't.  It's my friend's computer.
[09:04] <pckim93> I'm trying to set it up for him.
[09:04] <smotang> ian: is there anything else i can try?
[09:04] <pckim93> I was hoping to avoid buying Windows...
[09:04] <mnepton> well, good luck. the 965 definitely fails our support tests.
[09:04] <pckim93> Hmmm... OK.
[09:04] <wastrel> smotang   file Planetblah.blah
[09:04] <tuck3r> why would nano backspace backwards?
[09:04] <Jewfro> pckim93, I had a similar problem once, ACPI error....
[09:05] <pckim93> Were you able to fix it?
[09:05] <Jewfro> pckim93, required a bios update to resolve
[09:05] <Jewfro> yes, bios update
[09:05] <ianmacgregor> smotang: is it executable?
[09:05] <pckim93> Hmmm.. maybe I'll try that.
[09:05] <johanmuller> how do I upload messenger on ubuntu
[09:05] <pckim93> I'll try the bios update...
[09:05] <smotang> how do i check?
[09:05] <ianmacgregor> smotang: ls Pla<tab><enter>
[09:05] <pckim93> hmmm... how do I update the BIOS without any O/S?
[09:05] <variant> johanmuller: what do you mean?
[09:05] <Jewfro> pckim93, not sure if that's your problem, with such new hardware, but you could check.
[09:05] <taylor|killedX> i was monkeying around with my xorg.conf and broke my config.  so I restored from the last working copy and now I get the nvidia loading screen and then x dies without any errors in the logs
[09:05] <ianmacgregor> smotang: It should say somethng like -rwxr-xr-x
[09:06] <variant> pckim93: download the bios update fromyour bios vendor website and burn it to floppy/cd, its normaly bootable imagbe
[09:06] <johanmuller> not able to upload yahoo messenger on my computer
[09:06] <pckim93> OK.  Thanks.
[09:06] <smotang> ok i tried ls and it came back with the filename in green?
[09:06] <Madpilot> johanmuller, gaim can do yahoo msgr, if that's what you mean...
[09:07] <johanmuller> but how do i do it
[09:07] <ianmacgregor> smotang: ok, that means it's executable. Perhaps the download was corrupted or something
[09:07] <variant> johanmuller: where are you trying to upload yahoo messenger to?
[09:07] <Acke_ubu> johanmuller, how do you mean? upload? where?
[09:07] <pacman> anyone familiar with getting a printer set up?
[09:07] <variant> johanmuller: and why are you uploading it at all?
[09:07] <smotang> How to use an md5 checksum to check see if it is corrupt or not?
[09:08] <johanmuller> my computer went the gaim option but it doesnt let me connect
[09:08] <ianmacgregor> smotang: md5sum -c file.bin
[09:08] <variant> smotang: download te .md5 and run md5sum /path/to/file.md5 making sure taht both the downloaded md5 and the main file are in the same dir
[09:08] <smotang> thanks
[09:08] <Jewfro> johanmuller, there is a yahoo linux client, but gaim should work, check settings
[09:09] <johanmuller> I have a pentium 2 running ubuntu
[09:09] <smotang> ok here is the md5sum: md5sum: cb456493c8a51fe02267b234887610f7
[09:09] <Jewfro> johanmuller, check the gaim settings, make sure you have the newest version as well.
[09:10] <ianmacgregor> smotang: Does that match the md5sum on the app's website?
[09:10] <overrider> my lan topology is hosts -> switches -> 4 port hub -> router -> modem -> internet.... any problems with that hub there in the middle?
[09:10] <gneral> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 32 not upgraded.
[09:11] <gneral> how to remove bold text from apt-get ? I was deleted manually that file and now I cant install any package
[09:11] <variant> smotang: the md5sum command that i told you will tell you if the file is good or now
[09:11] <variant> or not*
[09:12] <johanmuller> ok i have opened gaim but says ive been disconnected
[09:12] <aoupi> overrider: I have almost exactly the same setup and I don't have any problems
[09:12] <johanmuller> when logging on
[09:12] <four> can someone tell me how to make tv out work with ati Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[09:12] <Jewfro> johanmuller, run synaptic and check for updates, you may have an old version
[09:13] <johanmuller> how do i do that?
[09:13] <superdump> hello good people
[09:13] <variant> overrider: is there a problem with your network?
[09:13] <Jewfro> johanmuller, alternately you could try using kopete, sudo apt-get kopete...
[09:13] <smotang> It came back with: md5sum: PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin: no properly formatted MD5 checksum lines found
[09:13] <Jewfro> johanmuller, system, administration, synaptic package manager
[09:13] <smotang> what does that mean?
[09:13] <variant> smotang: did you download the checksum and the file from the same site?
[09:14] <superdump> i've been prodding around trying to get the touchpad on my macbook functioning fully with two/three finger taps for middle and right clicks and also two-finger dragging/scrolling but i'm struggling at the moment
[09:14] <four> is there a way to make tv out work with ati Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[09:14] <superdump> does anyone else have a macbook and has already done this in ubuntu, or know how to?
[09:14] <Geoffrey2> can anyone reccomend a decent program for web page design?
[09:14] <johanmuller> ok will try
[09:14] <smotang> Im confused. the command i used was: md5sum -c PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin
[09:14] <variant> four: probably
[09:14] <overrider> variant , no, i just added that hub there to do some protocol monitoring
[09:14] <aoupi> Geoffrey2: gedit :p
[09:14] <Jewfro> Geoffrey2, , screem
[09:15] <Jewfro> aoupi :)
[09:15] <four> the ati website has linu software but i cant get it to work, mightnot be compatable with ubuntu?
[09:15] <danny_> anyone else experience the dreaded Grub error 17, upon boot?
[09:15] <superdump> Geoffrey2: wysiwig? i tend to manually write stuff or use something like wordpress or whatever
[09:15] <ianmacgregor> smotang: You need to download the md5sum from the same website that you got planeshift from
[09:15] <Geoffrey2> aoupi, ah yes, notepad :)
[09:16] <Wiseguy> hey guys, how do i get xmms with mp3 support again?
[09:16] <variant> smotang: download the file and the md5sum and run "md5sum /path/to/downloaded/md5sum.md5
[09:16] <four> noone knows how to make svideo out work with ubuntu
[09:17] <Ignatius> Wiseguy: sudo apt-get intall gstreamer-lame or something
[09:17] <variant> four: stop whining and look on google
[09:17] <Ignatius> try apt-cache search first
[09:17] <ianmacgregor> Wiseguy: It comes with mp3 support in the repos
[09:17] <smotang> I dont know how to download the md5 sum
[09:17] <variant> four: is it a radeon?
[09:17] <four> yes
[09:17] <variant> smotang: it should be in the same directory as the other file you downloaded
[09:17] <Jewfro> Wiseguy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:17] <four> it is radeon
[09:17] <smotang> http://www.planeshift.it/download.html is the site where i got the original file from, i got it from the 3rd mirror for linux
[09:18] <ianmacgregor> Wiseguy: If you install xmms from the repos, it already has mp3 support
[09:18] <variant> four: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=radeon+tvout+linux&btnG=Google+Search
[09:18] <Ignatius> smotang:planeshift works on me :)
[09:18] <Ignatius> and I have inteegrated intel, sheesh
[09:18] <Ignatius> *-e
[09:18] <variant> smotang: if there was no .md5 file on that site then you cant use md5 checksumming to test the integrity of the file
[09:18] <bun-bun> smotang# the md5sums are right there on the page you just linked, just a bit further down
[09:18] <roboe> necesito ayuda please
[09:19] <ianmacgregor> smotang: I am seeing that the md5sum is blank on the site :(
[09:19] <roboe> alguien habla espaol?
[09:19] <ianmacgregor> bun-bun: Where?
[09:19] <bun-bun> !es > roboe
[09:19] <smotang> damn
[09:19] <johanmuller> ok in synamic package manger which one do i choose
[09:19] <bun-bun> eh.. it's right there
[09:19] <roboe> he hecho una instalacin de ubuntu
[09:19] <Jewfro> smotang, get the file from where ignatiuis got his!
[09:19] <bun-bun> just below the mirrirs
[09:19] <ianmacgregor> bun-bun: For Linux?
[09:19] <roboe> pero me pide usuario
[09:19] <roboe> y no s qu poner
[09:20] <ianmacgregor> bun-bun: It's there for the .exe files but not for Linux
[09:20] <hawaisurf> hi just a simple question....my garbage bin desapeared from the Desktop..how can I put it there again?
[09:20] <Baco> Art0131k gcmenler ayn0131 noktada bulu015fuyor sende gel sende ye ol yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net
[09:20] <variant> johanmuller: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:20] <smotang> Well that was weird... I tried to open it through desktop just then AGAIN and this time it worked...
[09:20] <julian> robeo
[09:20] <bun-bun> ianmacgregor# i see what you're saying, that's what i get for jumping into a convo late :)
[09:20] <julian> cuando instalaste te pregunta el nombre del usuario
[09:20] <ianmacgregor> bun-bun: hehe
[09:20] <variant> Baco: this is an english channel
[09:20] <julian> que pusiste
[09:21] <ianmacgregor> !es > julian
[09:21] <variant> julian: this is an eglish channel
[09:21] <variant> lol, english
[09:21] <smotang> Ok, now it says i need to run it as root...
[09:21] <ClayG> anyone here own a HP lappy?
[09:21] <julian> i was trying to help someone
[09:21] <variant> julian: sure, but do it in the right chan
[09:21] <julian> shesh
[09:22] <smotang> Ian any ideas?
[09:22] <variant> julian: this channel is busy enough in english :)
[09:22] <ClayG> hehehe julian, cheerleaders bugging you?
[09:22] <ianmacgregor> smotang: You double-clicked it in nautilus and it worked?
[09:22] <julian> i just dont see the problem in  helping someone, that is the ultimate goal of this channel
[09:22] <julian> anyways
[09:23] <variant> julian: i agree, but if you combine all the different language ubuntu channels then this would be the least helpfull channel imaginable
[09:24] <smotang> It was a .bin file on my desktop, im using the gnome desktop i double clicked and it worked...
[09:24] <ianmacgregor> smotang: Nautilus manages the desktop ;)
[09:24] <JDStone> is it possible to use a specific package from teh edgy repos?
[09:24] <ianmacgregor> smotang: open a term and type:  gksudo nautilus  , then go to that file and double-click. But, be careful, that will be a nautilus window running as root.
[09:25] <Jewfro> JDStone, do you mean a specific version?
[09:25] <variant> JDStone: I think you will need to enable the backports repo. i think thats how it works anyway
[09:25] <jenda> Anyone here use bitlbee + google talk? How do you connect to that?
[09:25] <JDStone> Jewfro, variant.  I want just the smartmontools package
[09:25] <JDStone> because it's a newer version
[09:26] <Jewfro> jenda, google talk words under gaim/kopete through the jabber protocol
[09:26] <variant> Jewfro: i have never used bitlbee but the bitlbee website i just looked at tells you how to do it
[09:26] <JDStone> it's a newer version, yes
[09:26] <JDStone> 5.36 instead of 5.34
[09:26] <smotang> thanks ian
[09:26] <variant> jenda: i have never used bitlbee but the bitlbee website i just looked at tells you how to do it
[09:26] <jenda> Jewfro: yes, it is the jabber protocol, but has some server/port settings which I don't know how to set in bitlbee
[09:26] <ianmacgregor> smotang: You're welcome :)
[09:26] <variant> jenda: (so connecting to Google Talk is just a matter of account add jabber<EMAIL_ADDRESS>password)
[09:26] <smotang> how do i stop it from bein root?
[09:26] <jenda> valehru: aha, thx :)
[09:27] <Jewfro> JDstone, you can specify versions using apt-get or aptitude, so long as it's in your repositories
[09:27] <ianmacgregor> smotang: exit/quit the app
[09:27] <variant> Jewfro: i assume you ment me, np :)
[09:27] <ClayG> hey has anyone here used a hp laptop with the brightview/glossy screen?
[09:27] <smotang> ok thanks
[09:27] <ClayG> I'm buying one NOW and dont want to pay extra for something that I wont like as much
[09:27] <ianmacgregor> smotang: And make sure you close that nautilus window as well
[09:27] <JDStone> Jewfro: that's the thing.  If I put it in my repos, I'll get everything else from the EDGY repos, right?
[09:28] <smotang> Now, I have a feeling that my 3d rendering is at the moment all software and not using my graphics card's hardware at all.
[09:28] <Jewfro> JDStone, you could just download it in .deb format, then install....
[09:28] <smotang> if there any way to change that?
[09:28] <JDStone> hmm, true
[09:28] <variant> smotang: depends what card you have
[09:28] <smotang> nvidia 5200 i think
[09:28] <Jewfro> JDstone, not sure about the other question, try man aptitude :)
[09:28] <julian> anyone know if ntfs 3g driver will be included in edgy release
[09:29] <variant> smotang: you will have to install the proprietry nvidia drivers which is a shame as it is non free software
[09:29] <JDStone> ok, thanks Jewfro
[09:29] <johanmuller> ok what do i do their
[09:29] <ianmacgregor> smotang: Check the topic about nvidia drivers
[09:29] <jenda> valehru: umm... nope, Idon't think that's it... that works for connecting to jabber.
[09:29] <jenda> But not google's jabber.
[09:30] <Jewfro> johanmuller, where are you now?
[09:30] <jenda> err... variant ^
[09:30] <variant> johanmuller: who are you talking to? (include peoples nicks in conversations so they are highlighted -  for example: type var and press the TAB key)
[09:31] <variant> johanmuller: thats what it says on the bitlbee site
[09:31] <smotang> That topic is in the ubuntu forums?
[09:31] <johanmuller> in the synapic package trying to install yahoo messenger
[09:31] <ianmacgregor> smotang: type /topic
[09:31] <variant> jenda: thats what it says on the bitlbee site: http://www.bitlbee.org/main.php/news.html ctrl f and type google
[09:31] <JDStone> Jewfro: will a package from here work: http://www.backports.org/debian/pool/main/s/smartmontools/
[09:31] <Jewfro> johanmuller, you meaning trying to update gaim, click on the "mark all upgrades", and apply
[09:31] <harrism> hi everyone, for some reason nothing is showing on my desktop. Say for example I save a file to the desktop, graphically it will not show but it will in terminal. When I mount say my USB flash drive, it mounts but does not show on the desktop. I also cannot right-click the desktop? Any ideas?
[09:31] <JDStone> Jewfro: or is that only for debian?
[09:31] <smotang> thanks
[09:31] <johanmuller> ok will do so
[09:31] <jenda> variant: strange, doesn't work for me.
[09:32] <variant> jenda: sorry :(
[09:32] <Jewfro> JDStone, debian packages should work, assuming you have all dependencies
[09:32] <jenda> It hits the authentication method: google uses tls
[09:32] <ianmacgregor> harrism: nautilus manages the desktop and it isn't running. try running nautilus or log out and back in
[09:32] <jenda> variant: np, and thanks.
[09:32] <johanmuller> i have done so what nexxt?
[09:32] <Flannel> Jewfro, JDStone, no.  debians repositories don't necessarily have binary compatability with ubuntu.
[09:32] <variant> harrism: could be the gnome desktop decorator crashing.. or are you using a custom command to set the background walpaper?
[09:32] <jenda> variant: aha, that's for a bzr branch of bitlbee, not the stable version.
[09:33] <Jewfro> johanmuller, did you download updates that fast? try gaim again
[09:33] <harrism> well I rebooted but that did not seem to help. I recently installed XGL+Berly but that is working fine
[09:33] <variant> jenda: i see, perhaps you should switch?
[09:33] <thoreauputic> harrism: sounds like nautilus is not drawing your desktop _ try "killall nautilus" and see if it comes back
[09:33] <JDStone> Flannel: how do I get the ubuntu EDGY package of smartmontools without updating my repos?
[09:33] <johanmuller> ok will do so im on broadband that why
[09:33] <Flannel> harrism: ah, it's a XGL/whatever issue then.  ask in #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl or #xgl or whatnot
[09:33] <jenda> variant: nah, I'll just GFGI ;) found something already.
[09:33] <variant> jenda: CFGI?
[09:33] <variant> jenda: gl
[09:33] <sven-tek> Hi! OpenOffice.org's impress crashes here on a dapper system. Where can i report it, or send my presentation that causes the crash
[09:33] <Flannel> JDStone: you don't.  Wait for edgy, or maybe it's backported, or compile yourself
[09:33] <harrism> killall worked
[09:34] <JDStone> damn, thanks Flannel, Jewfro
[09:34] <thoreauputic> sven-tek:  bugs.ubuntu.com
[09:34] <harrism> thanks for the help, but how exactly did this help?
[09:34] <variant> JDStone: download the smartmontools .deb and run dpkg -i /path/to/tools.deb
[09:34] <Flannel> JDStone: you might be able to compile from edgy source, so still quasi package managed
[09:34] <eetfunk> is it just me or apt-get install python-psycopg2 doesnt work?  it's supposed to be in universe
[09:34] <thoreauputic> harrism: nautilus sometimes frgets to draw the desktop :)
[09:34] <harrism> so killall resets it? or stops it?
[09:34] <Baco> Art0131k gcmenler ayn0131 noktada bulu015fuyor sende gel sende ye ol yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net
[09:34] <ianmacgregor> harrism: nautilus manages the gnome desktop (icons, etc) and it screwed up somehow. When you killed it, it respawned and set things back to normal.
[09:35] <thoreauputic> stops and respawns it
[09:35] <johanmuller> gaim has diconected me again
[09:35] <johanmuller> on yahoo
[09:35] <tmorris> how do I change the "Open With" application on certain files?
[09:35] <variant> JDStone: possibly yahoo network not gaim
[09:35] <harrism> I see, thanks. Well my usb icon changed into a text file icon :D but I can probably fix that in nautilus right?
[09:35] <Jewfro> johanmuller, hrmm, not sure what your problem is, check your user name/password
[09:36] <harrism> ok nevermind, it was a text file on top of the usb icon :D heh
[09:36] <harrism> thanks again for the help
[09:36] <thoreauputic> harrism: a usb icon should only show when the usb is actually mounted
[09:36] <JDStone> Flannel: found it: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/smartmontools/smartmontools_5.36-6ubuntu2_i386.deb
[09:36] <thoreauputic> harrism: np :)
[09:36] <Jewfro> johanmuller, or try this: http://messenger.yahoo.com/download/unix.html
[09:37] <variant> JDStone: run dpkg -i ont hat file
[09:37] <JDStone> variant: how do i do that?
[09:37] <Baco> Art0131k gcmenler ayn0131 noktada bulu015fuyor sende gel sende ye ol yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net
[09:37] <thoreauputic> Baco: not here, please
[09:37] <Jewfro> JDstone, from terminal sudo dpgk -i xxx, xxx being your file name
[09:37] <variant> JDStone: download it.. open terminal and type dpkg -i smartmontools_5.36ubuntu2_i386.deb
[09:37] <thoreauputic> can anyone identify the language Baco is using?
[09:37] <variant> JDStone: you need to be root
[09:38] <JDStone> oh, yeah, I did that
[09:38] <ianmacgregor> thoreauputic: I think it's a bot
[09:38] <JDStone> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smartmontools:
[09:38] <JDStone>  smartmontools depends on libc6 (>= 2.4-1); however:
[09:38] <JDStone>   Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.
[09:38] <JDStone>  smartmontools depends on sysv-rc (>= 2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu2); however:
[09:38] <JDStone>   Version of sysv-rc on system is 2.86.ds1-6ubuntu32.
[09:38] <JDStone> dpkg: error processing smartmontools (--install):
[09:38] <ianmacgregor> it keeps repeating
[09:38] <JDStone>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[09:38] <vinboy> how do I enable Jmicron PATA/IDE support in kernel 2.6.18?
[09:38] <JDStone> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:38] <JDStone>  smartmontools
[09:38] <JDStone> oops, probably should have done pastebin
[09:38] <thoreauputic> JDStone: do NOT  paste
[09:38] <thoreauputic> indeed
[09:38] <Jewfro> JDstone, okay being trying to resolve your dependencies, and try again
[09:38] <JDStone> sorry guys
[09:38] <Jewfro> JDstone, begin I mean
[09:38] <variant> JDStone: you will need to do the same for those deps
[09:38] <JDStone> hmm, ok
[09:39] <thoreauputic> !tr
[09:39] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[09:39] <JDStone> hmm, maybe I'll just wait....  i'm going to bed for now.  when will EDGY be out anways?
[09:39] <variant> JDStone: its not the safest of options
[09:40] <ReverseBlade> thoreauputic, selam
[09:40] <variant> JDStone: in a couple of weeks i think
[09:40] <thoreauputic> JDStone: oct 26 I think
[09:40] <variant> JDStone: I am using it now.. it is very nice :)
[09:40] <wrabbit^> which is the latest ubuntu release?
[09:40] <eetfunk> can anyone tell me why Universe doesnt work?  This is my sources.list file:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/fuI52a18.html
[09:40] <variant> weka: dapper
[09:40] <JDStone> oh, even if it's in the next couple months, then I'll wait
[09:40] <variant> wrabbit^: dapper
[09:40] <variant> wrabbit^: edgy is development, out soon
[09:40] <JDStone> night
[09:40] <ianmacgregor> JDStone: iirc, it's the 28th of this month
[09:40] <JDStone> thanks again
[09:40] <variant> JDStone: later
[09:40] <wrabbit^> variant: edgy is still available for dl though right?
[09:41] <variant> wrabbit^: yeah, i use it
[09:41] <variant> wrabbit^: you can upgrade from dapper to edgy
[09:41] <wrabbit^> variant: I plan on it :)
[09:41] <variant> wrabbit^: change dapper to edgy in sources.list run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:41] <upshs01> anybody could help me what is happening to my progrm whenever i left my unit for a while, its been in a screen saver mode, its hanging, doesnt open, then what i do is to reboot, is it okay? does the system will not be affected
[09:42] <wrabbit^> variant: sounds good.  Much change?
[09:42] <mnepton> upshs01: change the screensaver to "blank screen only" instead of random
[09:42] <levander> Why is my clock always an hour or two off either way?
[09:42] <alumno01> hello
[09:42] <alumno02> hola
[09:42] <upshs01> in what way and how could i do it
[09:42] <alumno02> ola k tl?
[09:42] <alumno01> mb
[09:43] <variant> wrabbit^: yeah, feels much slicker and faster. nice new theme updates too
[09:43] <alumno01> y tu
[09:43] <Baco> Art0131k gcmenler ayn0131 noktada bulu015fuyor sende gel sende ye ol yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net
[09:43] <alumno02> como te llamas??
[09:43] <BHSPitLappy> alumno01, what are you doing, exactly.
[09:43] <mnepton> upshs01: System -> Prefs -> Screensaver
[09:43] <Baco> Art0131k gcmenler ayn0131 noktada bulu015fuyor sende gel sende ye ol yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net
[09:43] <ianmacgregor> !es > alumno02
[09:43] <levander> Anybody knows how to use the ntp commands appropriately?  My system is pretty much set up to default with that stuff.
[09:43] <wrabbit^> variant: awesome :) Might upgrade tonight
[09:43] <variant> wrabbit^: for the first time ever suspend and hibernate work on my laptop with edgy
[09:43] <tmorris> !ops
[09:43] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:43] <Baco> Art0131k gcmenler ayn0131 noktada bulu015fuyor sende gel sende ye ol yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net
[09:43] <ianmacgregor> thoreauputic: Can we kick Baco ?
[09:43] <alumno01> hello i am rosa
[09:43] <variant> can somone kick baco please
[09:43] <alumno02> com te llamas''
[09:43] <alumno02> DEW
[09:43] <alumno02> DWE
[09:43] <alumno02> ED
[09:43] <alumno02> DEW
[09:43] <alumno02> DEW
[09:43] <alumno02> EW
[09:43] <BHSPitLappy> Hobbsee, don't stop there...
[09:43] <variant> can somone kick baco alumno02 please
[09:43] <BHSPitLappy> and 01
[09:43] <ianmacgregor> thanks Hobbsee, Madpilot
[09:44] <sandy16> how can i keep keyboard shortcut for a command?
[09:44] <ianmacgregor> sandy16: http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/Linux/KeyboardShortcuts
[09:44] <upshs01> ok thanks unepton, am i right?
[09:44] <kholerabbi> When I try install compiz I get "The following packages have unmet dependencies:  compiz-plugins: Depends: compiz-core (>= <IP_ADDRESS>) but <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu3 is to be installed.
[09:44] <variant> wrabbit^: be aware though that there may still be a few bugs that cause you to reinstall, it's not perfect
[09:45] <wrabbit^> variant: as long as I don't lose my /home partition, I don't have any worries
[09:45] <variant> wrabbit^: it seems to work perfectly for me, i have used it for a month now
[09:45] <Jewfro> variant, there's always bugs, any version))
[09:45] <variant> wrabbit^: that shouldnt be an issue :) back it up first though if you can
[09:45] <variant> Jewfro: true
[09:45] <wrabbit^> yeah, I will
[09:45] <tmorris> how do you "back it up"?
[09:46] <Jewfro> variant, I just had to reinstall recently w/Dapper, my HDD started filling it self up, it was odd...
[09:46] <variant> tmorris: well, I recenlty made a live dvd of my installed ubuntu system using the script from www.linux-live.org
[09:46] <wrabbit^> Jewfro: with what?
[09:46] <upshs01> another thing, ubuntu is not responding to my printer hpdeskhet 656c
[09:46] <tmorris> variant, does it recover the exact image of the system?
[09:46] <Jewfro> wrabbit^, I had to re-install Dapper
[09:47] <upshs01> also disk drive is not working as well
[09:47] <variant> tmorris: it turns your installed system into a live dvd, it is not an "exact image" as it has to make some changes to allow it to run from a dvd. but wont loose any files
[09:47] <eetfunk> can anyone tell me why Universe doesnt work?  This is my sources.list file:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/fuI52a18.html .
[09:47] <variant> tmorris: there are a lot of other backup programs that ar specifically designed to make exact copys
[09:48] <ianmacgregor> variant: Did you have to install anything for that to work?
[09:49] <upshs01> anybody could help me? my printer is not working with linux, hpdesjet 565c and my disk drive is not workable too.
[09:49] <variant> ianmacgregor: the live dvd? yeah, unionfs and squashfs
[09:49] <ianmacgregor> variant: Thank you
[09:49] <variant> ianmacgregor: the system used is the same to make the slax livecd, the resulting cd/dvd is _very_ fast
[09:49] <levander> Are these screen savers already included with Dapper?  He says they use OpenGL, but I've got ones on my system that are named the same and look pretty similar.  No way my hardware could handle OpenGL.  I just tried an OpenGL screen saver (started with a 'G') and it pretty much pegged my machine.
[09:50] <variant> levander: what system do you have? (gfx card, cpu, mem
[09:50] <whyso> when will edgy be realsed non beta?
[09:50] <mnepton> Oct. 26
[09:50] <variant> whyso: 28th this month apparantly
[09:51] <kholerabbi> pct 26
[09:51] <variant> 26th*
[09:51] <whyso> very cool! ty
[09:51] <levander> variant: Matrox G400, dual PIII 550, w/ 528 MB RAM
[09:51] <variant> levander: your system should easilly handle the 3d screensavers
[09:51] <levander> variant: GLBlur, GLKnots, completely hose my system
[09:51] <variant> levander: you just need to get 3d acceleration working
[09:52] <upshs01> this is non
[09:52] <levander> variant: they run, but they peg the CPU
[09:52] <variant> levander: in a terminal type glxinf | grep direct
[09:52] <sven-tek> only if Matrox G400 is not a PCI card
[09:52] <variant> levander: in a terminal type glxinfo | grep direct
[09:52] <levander> variant: trying
[09:52] <sven-tek> if its a PCI card there is no Acceleration
[09:52] <levander> direct rendering: No
[09:52] <levander> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:52] <leftjustified> anyone know of specific problems accessing a secondary NTFS SATA HDD from an XP install under VMWare Server in Ubuntu? Very specific question, I know, but my XP box has been pwn3d and I've got 140GB of data on an NTFS drive that I must rescue, some of which will need XP apps :-/
[09:52] <variant> sven-tek: that right?
[09:53] <variant> levander: is it agp card?
[09:53] <levander> variant: i'm pretyt sure I lokoed into it awhile back, and X doesn't support hardware acceleration on the Matrox G400.
[09:53] <levander> variant: yeah, AGP 2x I believe.  It's not 4x.
[09:53] <variant> levander: you should be able to get it wroking then
[09:53] <sven-tek> right
[09:53] <levander> Actually, my CPU is working pretty heavily now.
[09:54] <variant> levander: yeah, you dont have direct rendering so your cpu is having to do all the work and the gfx card does nothing
[09:54] <sven-tek> investigate into activating the DRI for matrox cards, should have several howtos in the net
[09:54] <levander> variant: I'm about to switch video cards anyway, but thanks for info.  Real question was if those are the same screen savers included with the Dapper release.
[09:54] <variant> levander: yep
[09:55] <levander> variant: cool, I remember reading about those screensavers a loooong time ago on anandtech.com
[09:55] <variant> levander: http://dri.sourceforge.net/doc/dri_driver_features.phtml#G200/400
[09:55] <sven-tek> bye
[09:55] <levander> variant: I couldn't get them installed on Linux back then, now Dapper has them already installed for me.
[09:55] <variant> levander: hehe
[09:57] <Jewfro> anyone ever program an FTA receiver on Ubuntu?
[09:57] <levander> variant: is ReadPixel and DrawPixel the complete DRI protocol?
[09:57] <variant> levander: no idea
[09:57] <levander> variant: that's what they say they support with the G400, those two
[09:58] <variant> levander: lol, not so good eh?
[09:58] <levander> variant: they support something on the G400 anyway
[09:58] <ianmacgregor> variant: May I pm you?
[09:58] <variant> ianmacgregor: yep
[09:58] <levander> variant: I have no idea if it's godo or not, those two may be all DRI is.
[09:58] <DraconPern> argh... ubuntu installed grub in my mbr, and now I have lost some functionality for a dell laptop.. :(
[09:58] <variant> levander: no, there is much more to it than that
[09:58] <levander> I've already bought an nVidia 6200.  I'll make sure to play with DRI after I install that.
[09:59] <wrabbit^> variant: going to update now :)
[09:59] <DraconPern> if anyone has a dell laptop w/ mediadirect, I need the 3rd sector of the drive.
[09:59] <wrabbit^> variant: Will I have to reinstall drivers and codecs again or does it just upgrade the base system?
[10:00] <DraconPern> THe instruction on the website really need to indicate to use the alternate cd for dual boot
[10:00] <variant> wrabbit^: if you have proprietry graphics/wifi then you will need to reinstall tehm. audio/vid codecs will be part of the upgrade
[10:01] <DraconPern> does the install process save the mbr somewhere?
[10:01] <wrabbit^> variant: alright, thanks.  nvidia drivers may need another install then
[10:01] <variant> wrabbit^: yup
[10:02] <tristan> !beryl
[10:02] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[10:04] <wrabbit^> may have to wait until there aren't any other machines on in the network. 600mb is quite large.  Don't want to hog the bandwidth
[10:04] <wrabbit^> unless there is a way to shape it
[10:06] <tempted> hey there guys... can't sleep... i can't get my server to load php files, it just asks them to save them to file ... in firefox...  any help? i am a total noob when it comes to servers
[10:07] <Jewfro> G'nite all......
[10:07] <Smotang> hello, have a problem. I recently tried to install the nvidia drivers for my vidio card and when i tried to configure them it came up with this:
[10:07] <Smotang> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[10:07] <Smotang> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[10:07] <Smotang> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[10:07] <Smotang> command:
[10:07] <Smotang> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[10:07] <Smotang> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[10:07] <Smotang> from nv to nvidia.
[10:07] <tristan> hello there
[10:08] <tristan> Now that I moved to beryl from compiz my K menu is not transparent anymore, how can I get this back
[10:09] <reddeth> Hello, I'm trying to install linux to a pen/flash drive, using syslinux. I have extracted all neccissary files and when in the syslinux directory I try typing "syslinux -s /dev/sda1" and I always get a "Bash: syslinux Command not found". Am I missing something? Thank you
[10:13] <wrabbit^> reddeth, make sure you have syslinux installed.  sudo apt-get install syslinux
[10:13] <wrabbit^> oh, you're gone
[10:13] <levander> Is ntp.ubuntu.com two hours ahead for anyone else?
[10:14] <levander> variant: how the hell did you know the URL for the exact place to look for how to get a Matrox G400 working with DRI?
[10:15] <variant> levander: what do you mean?
[10:15] <variant> levander: google
[10:15] <morphix> is there any known resolution to the Jmicron controller issue? i compiled <IP_ADDRESS> kernel but i get other issues.
[10:15] <levander> Is there a web page that will show me the time ntp.ubuntu.com is set to?  I can't figure out why "sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com" is showing a time on my machine two hours ahead of the real time.
[10:15] <levander> variant: those are some mad google skillz
[10:15] <morphix> system is pretty much unusable atm :(
[10:16] <levander> It's wierd wiki.ubuntu.com works just fine with Firefox on Ubuntu, but Firefox on XP, I get all kinds of certificate warnings.
[10:16] <variant> morphix: what issues would that be?
[10:16] <variant> levander: no idea why that might be
[10:17] <morphix> variant, the controller being totall unsupported by the latest kernel in ubuntu (2.6.15-27)
[10:18] <variant> morphix: apparantly you need to use all-generic-ide
[10:18] <variant> morphix: in the kernel
[10:19] <variant> morphix: at least to use the cd/dvd rom
[10:19] <variant> morphix: thats as far as i know so far
[10:19] <morphix> i dont have the cd/dvd rom issue.
[10:19] <variant> morphix: what issue do you have exactly? you cant boot or what?
[10:19] <morphix> that works.. its just the controller doesnt even show up as what it is
[10:19] <morphix> just says unknown ide device
[10:20] <variant> morphix: what command do you run to get that information?
[10:20] <morphix> lspci
[10:20] <variant> morphix: have you tried running update-pciids ?
[10:20] <Smotang> whats the command to list what kernel you are using in bash?
[10:20] <variant> Smotang: uname
[10:20] <Smotang> thanks
[10:20] <morphix> 0000:02:00.0 IDE interface: Unknown device 197b:2363 (rev 02)
[10:20] <morphix> ^^^
[10:20] <levander> oh hell, ntp was right, i was wrong (looking at clock on other computer that I had had motherboard out for two days)
[10:20] <levander> gotta go to sleep...
[10:20] <variant> morphix: have you tried running update-pciids ?
[10:21] <morphix> heh.. well that shows it as there
[10:21] <morphix> but i still cant access any drives connected to it (2 hdds)
[10:21] <variant> morphix: are they sata?
[10:22] <morphix> no. ide
[10:22] <variant> morphix: what are youdoing to to access them exactly?
[10:22] <morphix> i cant access them in anyway
[10:22] <morphix> they dont show in /dev or disk manager
[10:22] <rhett> i just put the 6.06 ubuntu cd in
[10:22] <rhett> how do i get dual displays to work?
[10:23] <totall_6_7> rhett: have you installed ubuntu yet?
[10:23] <morphix> all that is working is my system drive (sata) and my dvdrw drive (on the intel ide)
[10:23] <rhett> no
[10:23] <totall_6_7> then i dont believe you will get dual displays to work
[10:24] <morphix> its getting to the point i might just go back to windows
[10:24] <sixmokes> ls
[10:24] <sixmokes> w
[10:25] <sixmokes> doh
[10:25] <HumanPrototype> morning all
[10:26] <morphix> i thought compiling <IP_ADDRESS> would work.. but it hangs upon boot
[10:26] <ceerrff> how do i recompile the stock kernel, i don't need new kernel source
[10:26] <HumanPrototype> ceerrff: recompile your current kernel?
[10:26] <ceerrff> yeah, with some changes to the config
[10:27] <HumanPrototype> ceerrff: i think you need the linux-source package for your kernel
[10:27] <HumanPrototype> ceerrff: then you put it in /usr/src and link /usr/src/linux to it and there is a program for editing the options - i think there is a guide on the forums
[10:34] <ubuntu> holadfsdf
[10:35] <ubuntu> hola
[10:36] <jenda> Does anyone here use bip?
[10:36] <jenda> whoa, was that 9 minutes of near silence in #ubuntu ???
[10:36] <rhett> if i unstall ubuntu, does it help me back up old files?
[10:36] <rhett> from fedora?
[10:36] <jenda> rhett: depends...
[10:37] <jenda> do you have a seperate home partition?
[10:37] <jenda> /home, that is.
[10:37] <rhett> i don't think so
[10:37] <jenda> :(
[10:37] <jenda> baaad :)
[10:37] <SilentDis> one I learned the hard way myself hehe
[10:38] <jenda> rhett: can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda"
[10:39] <variant> morphix: sorry about that, i was busy (at work)
[10:39] <variant> morphix: I will be with you in a couple of minnits
[10:39] <morphix> ok.
[10:39] <rhett> i think my disk is /dev/hdc
[10:39] <rhett> just boot and one more partition
[10:40] <leftjustified> is there a way to force eject a dvd drive in ubuntu?
[10:40] <jenda> ok...
[10:40] <morphix> sudo eject
[10:40] <leftjustified> thanks
[10:40] <jenda> rhett: in that case, I'm afraid you'll have to backup manually...
[10:40] <variant> leftjustified: push a pin into the hole in the front
[10:40] <leftjustified> variant: tried that. no luck
[10:40] <jenda> rhett: you can back up to a new partition that you'll later use as /home
[10:40] <variant> leftjustified: what do you mean no luck? that litteraly forces the drive bay out
[10:41] <leftjustified> it didn't
[10:41] <BHSPitLappy> have you considered that the internals have all melted together
[10:41] <leftjustified> varient: my laptop is cursed. I'm lucky it even booted :D
[10:41] <variant> leftjustified: lol, somtimes hard to hit the right spot anbd you may have to push quite hard
[10:41] <variant> lol
[10:41] <BHSPitLappy> true
[10:41] <leftjustified> all good now, sudo eject did it
[10:41] <BHSPitLappy> haha
[10:41] <jenda> Nobody uses bip?
[10:41] <jenda> aww
[10:41] <BHSPitLappy> bip?
[10:41] <SilentDis> never herd of bip.  what is it?
[10:42] <BHSPitLappy> !info bip
[10:42] <ubotu> bip: multiuser irc proxy with conversation replay and more. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-1 (dapper), package size 55 kB, installed size 192 kB
[10:42] <richard_> when is the next release of ubuntu?
[10:42] <variant> morphix: as far as I can see the controller is supported
[10:42] <variant> richard_: 26th oct
[10:42] <BHSPitLappy> sounds interesting
[10:42] <thoreauputic> richard_: about oct 26
[10:42] <morphix> variant, in dapper?
[10:42] <BHSPitLappy> but I don't feel like using it
[10:42] <variant> morphix: what is the lspci output now that you updated the pciids?
[10:42] <richard_> i see... less than ten days ;)
[10:42] <BHSPitLappy> week from tomorrow!
[10:43] <richard_> im kinda excited
[10:43] <BHSPitLappy> yeah
[10:43] <leftjustified> shame I have to fix a b0rked winbloze box tonight or I'd wait :(
[10:43] <SilentDis> i'm excited/scared about the new release.
[10:43] <morphix> variant, 0000:02:00.0 IDE interface: JMicron Technologies, Inc. JMicron 20360/20363 AHCI Controller (rev 02)
[10:43] <BHSPitLappy> leftjustified, "fix"? like, install ubuntu?
[10:43] <richard_> why scared?
[10:43] <BHSPitLappy> that's how I fix windows boxen these days
[10:43] <leftjustified> BHPPitLappy: bingo ;)
[10:43] <SilentDis> i'm in the middle of nowhere on dialup (nothing faster available, and $700 for satellite with 3000ms ping doesn't interest me)
[10:43] <variant> morphix: and what kernel are you using?
[10:44] <SilentDis> i'm scared how many days it'll take me to pull :P
[10:44] <morphix> 2.6.15-27.. the latest kernel you can get for dapper via aptitude
[10:44] <BHSPitLappy> SilentDis, what about gprs?
[10:44] <leftjustified> BHSPitLappy: Flatten Primary; Install Ubuntu; Install VMWare Server; Install XP. hehe
[10:44] <SilentDis> gprs?
[10:44] <variant> morphix: so, perhaps you have to upgrade?
[10:44] <BHSPitLappy> SilentDis, or whatever it is, that you get from a cell provider.
[10:44] <nikin> hy
[10:45] <SilentDis> no cell towers in my area that offer it.
[10:45] <morphix> variant, upgrade to what? there isnt anything newer
[10:45] <variant> morphix: edgy is very stable considering it's an development release
[10:45] <BHSPitLappy> man, you ARE in the middle of nowhere.
[10:45] <SilentDis> not really, that's the funny part lol
[10:45] <morphix> variant, edgy doesnt boot either.. no matter WHAT kernel parameters i use
[10:45] <rixth> OK, khubd is using 100% CPU, has a nice value of -5, and won't even respond to a SIGKILL. How do I kill it?
[10:45] <SilentDis> i'm 2 miles outside of a small 500 person town (no dsl).
[10:46] <morphix> variant, i have to disconnect any devices connected to the intel ide controller to use edgy
[10:46] <nikin> i try to connect my phone via bluetooth. but i cannot pair it coz Linux never asks for the pairing code...
[10:46] <morphix> variant, which is stupid
[10:46] <SilentDis> i'm 20 min drive along the interstate to a super wal-mart/civilization/etc
[10:46] <variant> Sorry mate, don't think I can help
[10:46] <morphix> :(
[10:46] <morphix> this blows..
[10:46] <variant> morphix: in future buy supported hardware
[10:46] <thoreauputic> SilentDis: interesting definition of civilisation there...
[10:47] <HumanPrototype> nikin: i think there is a text file in /etc somewhere with the machines code in
[10:47] <variant> morphix: give it a couple of weeks. actualy, most other people seem to manage
[10:47] <morphix> variant, well nearly every asus boards i have bought.. has worked fine with ubuntu
[10:47] <nikin> Human ty.. gona look around
[10:47] <morphix> variant, yeh well i CANT manage without 2 of my drives
[10:47] <SilentDis> i'm far enough away that no one bothers me, and close enough that stuff is still conveniant.  i note the super wal-mart because it's the first thing off the interstate to the tourist trap it's in lol
[10:47] <morphix> they have my work on them
[10:48] <HumanPrototype> morphix: could you get a pci ide card and connect them on that instead?
[10:48] <morphix> HumanPrototype, i have no other card.. and no spare cash atm to grab one
[10:49] <morphix> might see if suse *shudder* works
[10:49] <HumanPrototype> morphix: why do you need edgy? whats wrong with dapper?
[10:49] <morphix> HumanPrototype, controller card doesnt work in dapper (because the kernel doesnt support it)
[10:50] <morphix> apparently someone messed up the support for it..
[10:50] <morphix> it detects.. but doesnt work
[10:50] <nikin> HumanProt: its working.. ty :D
[10:50] <HumanPrototype> morphix: cant you build a new kernel from source on dapper
[10:50] <HumanPrototype> nikin: glad i cld help
[10:50] <morphix> HumanPrototype, i'm in dapper atm.. compiling the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel.. yet again
[10:51] <variant> HumanPrototype: of course you can
[10:51] <HumanPrototype> morphix: http://www.kernel.org
[10:52] <morphix> HumanPrototype, i've already downloaded the kernel source. and am compiling right now, ive done this about 10 times already
[10:52] <HumanPrototype> morphix: brb
[10:53] <jenkins> anyone here know something about NIS ?
[10:53] <jenkins> <== looking for help NIS server and client
[10:53] <variant> jenkins: what do you want to know about it?
[10:53] <jenkins> I've read all the docs,
[10:53] <jenkins> installed the software
[10:53] <jenkins> set up the client
[10:53] <jenkins> and server
[10:54] <jenkins> yet it refuses to bind
[10:54] <jenkins> to the domain
[10:54] <nathalie> ik moet messengerlive hebben
[10:54] <grubenpony> !nl
[10:54] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[10:54] <jenkins> ypbind to localhost works
[10:54] <jenkins> ypserv -p shows the connection from localhost
[10:54] <jenkins> but no other client can connect
[10:55] <jenkins> iptables are flushed, no firewall
[10:55] <jenkins> ping to server and to name respond
[10:56] <jenkins> any ideas ?
[10:56] <variant> jenkins: not i sorry, somone else perhaps
[10:58] <xipietotec> someone awhile ago had given me a command to force a root file check upon reboot, anyone know what it is?
[10:59] <variant> xipietotec: the default is to do a fsck if you use shutdown afaik
[10:59] <xipietotec> err....I get a root file check every 30 mounts
[10:59] <thoreauputic> xipietotec:  sudo shutdown -h -F now  ( the -F forces a fsck)
[10:59] <variant> xipietotec: yeah
[11:00] <thoreauputic> oops I mean -r not -h
[11:00] <xipietotec> oh, cool! thanks thoreauputic (writes it down this time)
[11:00] <thoreauputic> xipietotec: not -h ( that's halt)
[11:00] <thoreauputic> xipietotec: use -r to reboot, -F to force a fsck
[11:01] <xipietotec> cool cool! =) thankye
[11:01] <thoreauputic> xipietotec:  "man shutdown" is worth a look ;p
[11:03] <xipietotec> I didn't think about shutdown, I was looking in fsck and e2fsck, and got waaaayyy confused.
[11:06] <wabbit> hi all. I've just been tryin to install the latest alsa drive and I get this error. configure: error: this packages requires a curses library
[11:06] <variant> morphix: i found this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/57502
[11:06] <variant> wabbit: apt-get install ncurses
[11:06] <wabbit> I have libncurses5 installed
[11:06] <variant> wabbit: hmm ok
[11:06] <grubenpony> wabbit: sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[11:06] <morphix> variant, yeh.. i've already looked at that too
[11:06] <wabbit> the ./configure takes a --with-curses argument. Do I pass a value here
[11:07] <variant> morphix: so there you have your answer
[11:07] <variant> wabbit: try what grubenpony suggests
[11:07] <grubenpony> wabbit: if you compile something using a library, you need the -dev package for that library installed
[11:07] <jenda_> how the hell can I make bip work :(
[11:07] <variant> wabbit: if still not working look at the output from the ./configure and see exactly what file it is checking for that fails
[11:07] <variant> jenkins: what is bip?
[11:07] <antotero> 310762
[11:07] <morphix> variant, there isnt really a resolution.. i have to install edgy and compile the kernel.. the problem there is.. i cant even boot edgy
[11:08] <SilentDis> beddybye time.  g'night all
[11:08] <variant> morphix: if its just hte kernel then why dont you use dapper and upgrade the kenrel?
[11:08] <variant> s/kenrel/kernel
[11:08] <wabbit> variant: I'm giving that a try
[11:08] <morphix> variant, i would have to manually compile 2.6.17?
[11:09] <variant> morphix: no, 2.6.18
[11:09] <morphix> variant, i've compiled <IP_ADDRESS> many times and it still wont work
[11:11] <wabbit> grubenpony: thanks libncurses5-dev did the trick
[11:11] <wabbit> variant: thanks
[11:11] <variant> wabbit: np, glad you got it working
[11:11] <HumanPrototype> how do i set my gtk2 theme in fluxbox?
[11:11] <Haesufin> what could be causing slow internet connection if any in ubuntu?
[11:11] <variant> morphix: sorry mate, guess your just going to have to wait till it becomes more stable
[11:12] <variant> Haesufin: programs which use the network running in the background
[11:12] <morphix> brb.. trying the latest compile of <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:12] <variant> Haesufin: how do you connect to the netowkr?
[11:12] <Haesufin> synaptic wont connect gaim wont, firefox barely
[11:13] <Haesufin> i connect  via lan
[11:13] <Badkitty> Stupid question: I installed a daily build of edgy... but it didn't ask for a login name only a password.. what would the default name be?
[11:13] <variant> Haesufin: ok, is the internet connection an adsl modem or what? what kind of lan is it? are we talking 1000's of users or just you?
[11:13] <Haesufin> i have a dlink dsl-504t
[11:13] <jenda_> Does anyone use bip?
[11:13] <Haesufin> all my MS comp work fine
[11:14] <variant> jenkins: what is bip?
[11:14] <thoreauputic> Badkitty: odd - try "ubuntu" ?
[11:14] <Haesufin> i think its dns
[11:14] <Badkitty> I did :-(
[11:14] <variant> Haesufin: does your router assign the dns server?
[11:14] <variant> Haesufin: do you use dhcp or static?
[11:14] <thoreauputic> Badkitty: so you can't login at all ?
[11:15] <Badkitty> thats right
[11:15] <Haesufin> i entered the dns addresses from the router into dns and search domain
[11:15] <Haesufin> yes
[11:15] <thoreauputic> Badkitty: bug report time.... bugs.ubuntu.com
[11:15] <variant> Haesufin: have you tried using dhcp?
[11:15] <Haesufin> yep
[11:15] <variant> Haesufin: most dhcp servers are configed to provide dns entrys
[11:15] <Haesufin> no good
[11:16] <variant> have you tried static config?
[11:16] <thoreauputic> Badkitty: ask in #ubuntu+1 to confirm
[11:16] <HumanPrototype> Haesufin: try setting a static ip and manually setting you dns server
[11:16] <Haesufin> if i enter a static address the i at least get a connection
[11:16] <Haesufin> but its still slow
[11:16] <variant> Haesufin: probably your dhcp server is borked.. or the router is some pos
[11:16] <HumanPrototype> Haesufin: have you set the dns manually?
[11:16] <Haesufin> variant>i think so
[11:17] <Badkitty> Thanks... its OEM
[11:17] <Haesufin> yes i set it maually i think
[11:17] <Haesufin> i entered the dns addresses into the dns tab in networking
[11:18] <HumanPrototype> Haesufin: are you on wireless or wired?
[11:18] <Haesufin> both dns and search domain
[11:18] <Haesufin> wired
[11:18] <variant> Haesufin: what speed conneection do you ahve?
[11:18] <Haesufin> xubuntu gets the same result
[11:18] <HumanPrototype> Haesufin: try opening a terminal and entering sudo ipconfig <interface> netmask <netmask> broadcast <broadcast>
[11:18] <Haesufin> 512
[11:18] <morphix> doesnt work :'(
[11:19] <thoreauputic> HumanPrototype: *cough* ifconfig
[11:19] <HumanPrototype> Haesufin: then use sudo route add default gw <gateway address>
[11:19] <thoreauputic> HumanPrototype: this isn't windows  :)
[11:19] <jojo`> bonjour tlm
[11:19] <jojo`> j'ai besoin d'aide
[11:19] <thoreauputic> !fr
[11:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:19] <HumanPrototype> thoreauputic: darn, and if im on a windows machine i norm try and use ifconfig. my excuse is im forced to use them at work
[11:19] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:20] <HumanPrototype> Haesufin: sorry if you didnt picl that up - thats meant to be ifconfig not ipconfig
[11:20] <jojo`> how to update apahce2 ?
[11:20] <jojo`> apache2
[11:21] <HumanPrototype> jojo`: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade should update your system
[11:21] <Haesufin> brb
[11:21] <jojo`> let me test
[11:21] <variant> morphix: your out of luck then i suppose. unless your prepared to keep slogging away at it. give the linux prepatch version a shot
[11:21] <variant> morphix: http://kernel.org/patchtypes/pre.html
[11:23] <morphix> variant, i've been compiling since 10am this morning.. and was doing it up until 5am yesterday.. its now 7:22
[11:23] <morphix> pm
[11:23] <progek> Hello all, everytime I start my computer I need to-> sudo killall nautilus     in order to get my desktop working right. Will I basically need to include this line in my startup or is their a more elegant way?
[11:23] <variant> morphix: thats what happens under these circumstances im afraid
[11:23] <variant> progek: odd..
[11:23] <jojo`> HumanPrototype: do I need to restart ?
[11:23] <variant> progek: your using dapper, upto date ?
[11:24] <HumanPrototype> jojo`: just restart apache (sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart)
[11:25] <jojo`> how can I check it's the last version ?
[11:26] <ircnewb> Hello im new to ubuntu, and i plugged in my usb memory jump drive, but ubuntu, won't show it
[11:26] <ircnewb> its on device manager
[11:26] <ircnewb> how do i mount it or something
[11:26] <jojo`> still 2.0.55
[11:26] <jojo`> not 2.0.59
[11:27] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: try using disks under the administration menu
[11:27] <bimberi> !info apache2
[11:27] <jojo`> I need to install the last
[11:27] <ubotu> apache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 80 kB
[11:27] <jojo`> tx
[11:27] <jojo`> thx
[11:27] <HumanPrototype> jojo`: then ubuntu doesnt have the latest version in the repos
[11:27] <bimberi> jojo`: that's the latest in ubuntu
[11:27] <bimberi> (dapper)
[11:27] <bimberi> !info apache2 edgy
[11:27] <variant> ircnewb: it should be an icon on the desktop
[11:28] <ubotu> apache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 35 kB, installed size 80 kB
[11:28] <bimberi> (and edgy too :)  )
[11:28] <ircnewb> well..its like my phone actually
[11:28] <variant> ircnewb: what version of ubuntu you using?
[11:28] <ircnewb> when i use to plug it in to windows box
[11:28] <ircnewb> it would show it as a usb storage device
[11:28] <variant> ircnewb: its your phone?
[11:28] <ircnewb> yea it has a memory card in it
[11:28] <ircnewb> a sim card
[11:28] <variant> ircnewb: i see, you probably need gnoki2
[11:28] <jojo`> I updated my packages with synaptic
[11:28] <kling0n> how would I go about getting extra charset support for ubuntu? I have been looking at the results from 'apt-cache search locale' but wht I need is basically locale support for ISO-8859-1 for mount.cifs
[11:28] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: open a term and use dmsg to find out what it is (sda, sdb etc)
[11:29] <jojo`> but not the last versions apache2 and PHP
[11:29] <kling0n>  how would I go about getting extra charset support for ubuntu? I have been looking at the results from 'apt-cache search locale' but wht I need is basically locale support for ISO-8859-1 for mount.cifs
[11:29] <HumanPrototype> jojo`: then you will need to install them from another repo or download and compile from source
[11:29] <jojo`> I downloaded it
[11:29] <kling0n> not sure whether that same out as a double-post ...
[11:29] <jojo`> I made ./configure
[11:30] <jojo`> but after ?
[11:30] <ircnewb> what command is that HumanPrototype
[11:30] <ircnewb> ? dmsg
[11:30] <ircnewb> newb here
[11:30] <variant> ircnewb: open gnome-terminal and type dmesg
[11:30] <bimberi> ubotu tell jojo` about compiling
[11:30] <variant> ircnewb: imediatly after plugging in your phone
[11:30] <ircnewb> ok
[11:30] <HumanPrototype> jojo`: there is normally an INSTALL file with instructions
[11:31] <variant> ircnewb: what make/model phone is it?
[11:31] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: look for sda or sdb or something similar
[11:31] <ircnewb> e398 gsm phone
[11:31] <ircnewb> is what device manager says it is
[11:31] <ircnewb> but its a motorola l6
[11:31] <HumanPrototype> then you can enter "sudo mount /dev/sd<whatever came out of dmesg> /media/phone"
[11:31] <progek> Hey everyone, I compiled some opengl programs from Nehe and they run very slow. I know it's not my machine because i'm running XGL without a problem. Any ideas? :/
[11:32] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: you may need to "sudo mkdir /media/phone" first
[11:32] <variant> progek: probably xgl is the problem
[11:32] <jojo`> it doesn't find made command
[11:32] <jojo`> ^^ :P
[11:33] <HumanPrototype> jojo`: the command is make
[11:33] <jojo`> yeah I meant make
[11:33] <jojo`> bash: make : commande introuvable
[11:33] <progek> variant: Thanks, but I'm running an Athlon64 3700+ with a 3d capable nvidia card. I have direct rendering on and can play opengl games fine. It's just these examples from nehe. The example was like a spinning small block
[11:33] <jojo`> strange
[11:33] <HumanPrototype> jojo`: try sudo aptitude install build-essential then rerun ./configure before trying make again
[11:33] <thoreauputic> jojo`:  install the build-esential package
[11:33] <variant> progek: what is nehe
[11:33] <jojo`> ok
[11:34] <progek> and also an example of a simple first person maze
[11:34] <variant> progek: xgl can still be the problem, it really doesnt matter how good your hardware is with xgl as it can interfere in very unexpected ways being alpha software
[11:35] <vanhtu1987> Hi, anyone answer this question please: How can I set the limit wrong-password attempts for sshd ?. I've been getting a lot of dictionary attacks lately. The man pages didn't show useful information.
[11:35] <variant> progek: and you use proprietry drivers from nvidia which is annother spanner in the works.. very hard to troubleshoot that kind of problem and not much to do to fix it if you find the problem
[11:36] <ircnewb> hey HumanPrototype, dmesg keeps saying something about bluetooth
[11:36] <morphix> anyone here compiled <IP_ADDRESS> kernel for ubuntu and wouldnt mind sending me their .config file?
[11:37] <vanhtu1987> morphix: I did for the newest kernel, but what is keeping you from doing it yourself ?
[11:37] <bionoid> vanhtu1987: there is a sshd patch called timelox that will probably do what you want. Originally for openbsd only but linux port here http://www.overflow.no/stuff/ssh-4.4p1+timelox+chroot.tgz
[11:37] <vanhtu1987> bionoid: Thank you, I'm looking at it now.
[11:37] <morphix> vanhtu1987, well i have compiled it MANY times and still gets errors booting up.. thinking maybe i chose something wrong in kernel config
[11:37] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: do you have bluetooth on that pc?
[11:38] <ircnewb> unfortunally no :-(
[11:38] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: does the phone?
[11:38] <ircnewb> yea
[11:38] <variant> vanhtu1987: this link might help you: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-October/060534.html
[11:38] <bionoid> morphix: what happens?
[11:38] <vanhtu1987> morphix: Did you try 'make menuconfig' or 'make oldconfig' ?
[11:38] <vanhtu1987> variant: Thanks.
[11:38] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: im not sure but i suppose it could be trying to use the phone as a usb bluetooth device...
[11:38] <variant> vanhtu1987: the problem is that he has an unssuported hardware which the 2.6.18 kernel has an experimental patch for
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179607.920000]  sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179607.932000]  sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179608.740000]  Bluetooth: Core ver 2.8
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179608.740000]  NET: Registered protocol family 31
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179608.740000]  Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179608.740000]  Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179608.824000]  Bluetooth: L2CAP ver 2.8
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179608.824000]  Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179608.884000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[11:39] <progek> variant: sorry I got d/c. Did you get my last post?
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179608.884000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179608.884000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.7
[11:39] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: dont post like that
[11:39] <variant> ircnewb: please dont paste that here
[11:39] <ircnewb> whoops
[11:39] <ircnewb> sorry
[11:39] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: use www.pastebin.com
[11:39] <variant> progek: no, please repeat
[11:39] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: thats ok - just dont do it in future - if its more than one line then paste bin it and you will have a link you can give us
[11:40] <morphix> bionoid, some errors trying to initiate ide controllers.. and such.. and randomly lucks up during boot.. such when loading ipv6 tunneling over ipv4
[11:40] <Haesufin> no good: bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'newline'
[11:40] <ircnewb> so its a sda drive i guess
[11:40] <morphix> vanhtu1987, tried using both
[11:40] <troytroy> woow been a while since i came to ubuntu :)
[11:40] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb:from the looks of it its picked it up as a bluetooth device and a disk
[11:40] <progek> ok, well I'm running an Athlon64 3700+, 3D capable nVidia gfx card with direct rendering on. XGL runs fast and so do 3d games however some examples from nehe that I compile myself have extreme lag. Even simple examples like a small cube that just spins
[11:40] <HumanPrototype> so its sda (first line of what you pasted)
[11:40] <ircnewb> yea
[11:40] <troytroy> i have been trying suse and os tiger
[11:41] <ircnewb> stick with tiger
[11:41] <ircnewb> :-)
[11:41] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: so now try this "sudo mkdir /media/phone && sudo mount /dev/sda /media/phone"
[11:41] <Chandy> I want to know how the Debian pacakge search results page is coming
[11:41] <tuqann> hi, quick question, I want to get avg-free edition for ubuntu, there are three versions for linux, which one should I get from this list:
[11:41] <tuqann> avg71flm-r30-a0791.i386.rpm7.1.0030
[11:41] <tuqann> avg71flr-r30-a0791.i386.rpm7.1.0030
[11:41] <tuqann> avg71fls-r30-a0791.i386.rpm
[11:41] <troytroy> ircnewb: why stick with tiger?
[11:41] <ircnewb> cause its apple
[11:41] <ircnewb> :-)
[11:41] <HumanPrototype> tuqann: they are all rpms and really you want a deb
[11:41] <ircnewb> and based on unix
[11:42] <ircnewb> unix pwns all
[11:42] <Chandy> sorry ..Ubuntu package search results page is comibng
[11:42] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: linux is based on unix too...
[11:42] <DrSpin> how do I disable the kernel's AGPGART?
[11:42] <troytroy> anybody installed dapper on tiger via parallels
[11:42] <ircnewb> ehh..but its not built on the unix kernel
[11:42] <ircnewb> isn't it its own kernel?
[11:42] <DrSpin> used to be /etc/hotplug/blacklist --- not there :/
[11:42] <tuqann> HumanPrototype: k, where should I look then, I'm very new to ubuntu
[11:43] <fdoving> DrSpin: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:43] <Haesufin> what does -->bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'newline' mean?
[11:43] <vanhtu1987> morphix: I'd be happy to send you the config file, but it probably doesn't help much.
[11:44] <morphix> vanhtu1987, it would atleast giving something to base upon
[11:44] <troytroy> anybody installed dapper on tiger via parallels-desktop pls?
[11:44] <thoreauputic> ircnewb: the linux kernel actuall orks better than theOS-X mach kernel
[11:44] <thoreauputic> *works
[11:45] <jojo`> still apache 2.0.55 :(
[11:45] <ircnewb> but the eye candy of apple... (dr00l)
[11:45] <DrSpin> added "blacklist agpgart" -- still loaded.... trying with both "blacklist sis_agp" and "blacklist agpgart"
[11:45] <jojo`> it's hard
[11:45] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: its a fork and also - in case u hadnt worked it out - telling people not to use linux and that mac is better on a linux  forum isnt going to make you popular
[11:45] <thoreauputic> ircnewb: http://xwinman.org  :)
[11:45] <DrSpin> linux on a mac :)
[11:45] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: have you seen aiglx and beryl?
[11:45] <tdn> How do I mount a cdrom iso that is contained in a .bin and a .cue file?
[11:45] <DrSpin> perfect harmony
[11:45] <Werdnum> !ubotu
[11:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:45] <thoreauputic> DrSpin: I use linux on my iBook :)
[11:46] <DrSpin> :)
[11:46] <jojo`> I 'm going to replace ubuntu with freebsd
[11:46] <ircnewb> aren't those still in alpha stages?
[11:46] <jojo`> ubuntu sucks for web
[11:46] <DrSpin> I use it on my powerbook 3500C as a think client
[11:46] <variant> jerb: for web? what does that mean?
[11:46] <HumanPrototype> tuqann: try searching the forums for a howto for avg
[11:46] <troytroy> what is subversion
[11:47] <variant> jerb: i use openbsd as a webserver, its very good and stable but i have found ubuntu to be simmilar in performance
[11:47] <_Rappy_> troytroy: is a version management system
[11:47] <vanhtu1987> morphix: Different computer specs would require different configurations, I'm running a Acer laptop, which is probably not what you want. The best route is based your new config file on the current config file of Ubuntu. Or, as variant said, perhaps that was your hardware that is incompatible with the new kernel. In that case a bug report may halp.
[11:47] <Werdnum> who coded ubotu?
[11:47] <variant> jojo`: for web? what does that mean?
[11:47] <Roberto> hello :)
[11:47] <variant> jojo`: i use openbsd as a webserver, its very good and stable but i have found ubuntu to be simmilar in performance
[11:48] <DraconPern> is there a problem on updates?
[11:48] <morphix> vanhtu1987, yeh i know different specs, dif config.. i might just try oldconfig again
[11:48] <variant> Werdnum: http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:48] <morphix> vanhtu1987, i have compiled it so many times i'm beginning to give up..
[11:48] <Chandy> Hey, What tools ubuntu is using to create and update its  website and wiki
[11:48] <DraconPern> I can't install any updates, it just says, download failed.
[11:48] <troytroy> _Rappy_: ok thanks
[11:49] <vanhtu1987> morphix: May you 'blindly' take the standard config file and compile the kernel right away ? It would give out some error but it'll ensure your new config stays closest to the current configuration.
[11:49] <DraconPern> this happens when doing sudo apt-get also...
[11:49] <morphix> vanhtu1987, i'll see what that does then
[11:49] <thoreauputic> Werdnum: ubotu is a blootbot
[11:49] <thoreauputic> !info blootbot
[11:49] <thoreauputic> hmmm no blootbot in ubuntu? interesting.....
[11:49] <DraconPern> yet I can do a wget...
[11:49] <ubotu> blootbot: a severely modified infobot for IRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-4 (dapper), package size 242 kB, installed size 968 kB
[11:49] <thoreauputic> yes it is there..
[11:49] <vanhtu1987> morphix: Yup, good luck!.
[11:49] <thoreauputic> !blootbot
[11:52] <vanhtu1987> morphix: I'd like to comment that using custom kernel might not be the best way, as you'll not benefit from Ubuntu updates and even may render your existing softwares incompatible, it's not worth the effort IMO, to gain a few CPU cycles. Unless you want some features not supported in the standard config.
[11:52] <t0taln00b> yo gyus and gals
[11:52] <grubenpony> vanhtu1987: the standard config file is probably not the best choice, because you need to build a initial ramdisk to be able to boot. i always take the standard config and change things like ide/sata/ext3 to compiled into the kernel image (not as modules)
[11:52] <kaptengu> I can't add a web calendar in Evolution, I klick add webcalendar, but nothing happens
[11:52] <kaptengu> tried to reinstall, but no change
[11:52] <morphix> vanhtu1987, i dont really want to customise it.. just want ubuntu to actually WORK on this pc with full support of all ide/sata controllers
[11:53] <kaptengu> anyone has experienced this?
[11:53] <vanhtu1987> grubenpony: It's good to know that, thanks, that's one of the reasons running a custom kernel is more touble than it's worth.
[11:53] <vanhtu1987> morphix: I see...
[11:53] <grubenpony> vanhtu1987: well, it depends on your experience with building a custom kernel
[11:54] <DraconPern> so.. I need help, I don't know why software update can't download anything
[11:54] <grubenpony> vanhtu1987: but in most cases, building an own kernel isn't needed
[11:55] <thoreauputic> DraconPern: can you ping the archive server?
[11:55] <vanhtu1987> grubenpony: Yup, I've compiled for one desktop and my laptop, with many failure of course, but they're running now. May you give morphix some suggestions ?.
[11:55] <thoreauputic> DraconPern: have you tried using apt-get or aptitude from a terminal?
[11:55] <DraconPern> thoreauputic: yes, I can ping it
[11:56] <DraconPern> I can even download the failed file
[11:56] <thoreauputic> DraconPern: what about apt-get then?
[11:56] <morghanphoenix> so, anyone on how to change ownership of paths?
[11:56] <morghanphoenix> changing ownership of `/media/sda1': Operation not permitted
[11:56] <thoreauputic> eg sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:56] <DraconPern> apt-get fails
[11:56] <morghanphoenix> sudo chown phoenix.phoenix /media/sda1
[11:57] <thoreauputic> DraconPern: have you tried changing mirrors ?
[11:57] <DraconPern> thoreauputic: it seems sudo doesn't have access to networking
[11:57] <thoreauputic> morghanphoenix: /media dirs are owned by root - why are you changing them?
[11:57] <grubenpony> vanhtu1987: i don't know what his original problem is
[11:58] <Chandy> May I know who is the maintainer for ubuntu website
[11:58] <variant> morghanphoenix: what is your username?
[11:58] <DraconPern> thoreauputic: apt-get can't connect to any server
[11:58] <morghanphoenix> It is owned by root, I had to manuallly mount it
[11:58] <morghanphoenix> phoenix
[11:58] <thoreauputic> DraconPern: umm... I don't follow you - what happens if you do  sudo -i to get a root shell, then run apt-get ?
[11:58] <variant> morghanphoenix: sudo chown -R phoenix /media/sda1
[11:58] <variant> morghanphoenix: sudo chgrp -R phoenix /media/sda1
[11:58] <morphix> grubenpony, my original problem  is because currently dappers kernel has a problem with this >> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/57502
[11:59] <TeemuR> i just installed flash but it wont work when i go to youtube firefox tells me that i dont have flash installed. i also tried using google video it doesnt work either
[11:59] <morghanphoenix> Operation not permitted.
[11:59] <tuqann> k, can anyone help me login as "root"
[11:59] <DraconPern> thoreauputic: it fails to connect to every server
[11:59] <morghanphoenix> to the whole recursive list
[12:00] <thoreauputic> DraconPern: OK - well I'm running out of ideas, sorry
[12:00] <grubenpony> morphix: sorry, i have no experience with problematic sata controllers
[12:01] <morphix> grubenpony, apparently in <IP_ADDRESS> its fixed.. so all i need is a default kernel compiled.. one that actually works in ubuntu lol
[12:01] <morghanphoenix> It's usb if that makes a diference.
[12:01] <grubenpony> morphix: so you just don't know which kernel config to use?
[12:02] <morphix> grubenpony, pretty much
[12:02] <grubenpony> morphix: and i don't know your hardware. so its not an easy task.
[12:03] <morphix> grubenpony, my motherboard is a asus p5w dh deluxe, graphics card is nvidia 7600gt
[12:04] <morphix> i can compile it.. i just need a config which isnt buggered (which i think i keep messing something up)
[12:04] <grubenpony> gruberman: board names tell me nothing. i need to know the sata chipset.
[12:06] <morphix> grubenpony, Intel ICH7, JMicron JMB363 & Sillicon Image 4723
[12:07] <grubenpony> morphix: hmm, no experience with one of those. i only know intel sata controllers.
[12:09] <morphix> grubenpony, well i am only using the intel ich7 sata and jmicron jmb363 pata
[12:10] <grubenpony> morphix: yeah, but i simply don't know this jmicron sh*t
[12:10] <variant> grubenpony: it is not supported in anything below 2.6.18 and that support is alpha
[12:11] <grubenpony> variant: omg
[12:11] <morphix> its supported in 2.6.17 via a patch
[12:11] <variant> morphix: where is the patch? i only ever heard somone sugest that that was a good idea.. not that it was available
[12:12] <morphix> grubenpony, could atleast make me a config that works with intel ich7? i could work from that
[12:12] <Roberto> I just installed Monodevelop (0.12) from Ubuntu Edgy, but there is no component in the components palette... any idea?
[12:12] <grubenpony> morphix: ich7 should be supported by either ata_piix or ahci drivers
[12:13] <variant> Roberto: you might be best to ask in #ubuntu+1 and #mono
[12:13] <dhq> how do i download all the files etc from my server using wget
[12:13] <morphix> grubenpony, yes but can atleast make me a normal config? as i dont exactly know what to choose for everything else.
[12:13] <grubenpony> morphix: compile scsi support, scsi disk support and the sata driver (ata_piix or ahci) into the kernel (not as modules)
[12:13] <variant> dhq: via ftp: wget -r ftp://etcetc.org
[12:14] <variant> dhq: via ftp: wget -r ftp://etcetc.org/*
[12:14] <morphix> variant, the patch is at http://distfiles.evolution-mission.org/sources/2.6.17/emission8/broken-out/031-jmicron-ide-2.6.17.patch
[12:14] <grubenpony> morphix: i have a rather stripped down config for <IP_ADDRESS> here. i don't know if it suits the rest of your hardware though.
[12:15] <morphix> intel hda audio. nvidia graphics.. thats pretty much it
[12:15] <variant> Basic support for the JMicron ATA controllers. For full support
[12:15] <variant> +	  use the libata drivers
[12:15] <morphix> core 2 duo cpu
[12:15] <grubenpony> variant: libata is only the generic part of the driver
[12:15] <variant> grubenpony: yeah, im just reading from the patch
[12:18] <morphix> or if someone has 2.6.17 installed could they send me the config for it
[12:18] <dhq> variant: its a http
[12:18] <dhq> variant: when i use that command only the html and gif files copy i need all the files
[12:19] <grubenpony> morphix: wait
[12:19] <dhq> Warning: wildcards not supported in HTTP.
[12:19] <morphix> ok
[12:20] <grubenpony> morphix: which network card(s)?
[12:21] <wrabbit^> Hey guys.... I used automatix to install the nvidia drivers this morning.  Is that a no no considering the driver security problem that has arisen?
[12:21] <wrabbit^> or does automatix install the nv drivers?
[12:21] <mnepton> wrabbit^: the binary drivers are included in Restricted
[12:21] <morphix> oops
[12:22] <mnepton> wrabbit^: and using "nvidia" instead of "nv" is an "it's your funeral" type of thing
[12:22] <morphix> closed xchat by accident.
[12:22] <whyso_> how do i change the default application for opening a filetype?
[12:22] <wrabbit^> mnepton: Is there a way to check which one I have installed?
[12:22] <grubenpony> morphix: which network card(s) do you have?
[12:23] <mnepton> whyso_: right-click -> properties -> open with
[12:23] <whyso_> thanks
[12:23] <morphix> grubenpony, marvell yukon  88E8053 gigabit
[12:24] <progek> Hi all, ok, I just compiled and ran a simple nehe opengl example which draws a flat triangle on the screen. This application among other examples take up 100% cpu usage. This is not normal is it?
[12:24] <whyso_> but that doesnt change the type when i click on later
[12:24] <morphix> grubenpony, audio is realtek alc882m
[12:24] <mnepton> wrabbit^: which is installed, or which you are using?
[12:24] <whyso_> is there a terminal command to make the default open for a file type?
[12:24] <wrabbit^> mnepton: I don't know which one automatix2 installed for me.
[12:25] <mnepton> wrabbit^: use Synaptic to check
[12:25] <wrabbit^> mnepton: it's the first time I've used it.  I usually use apt-get
[12:25] <whyso_> hello
[12:25] <mnepton> and for the love of pete, never ever use automatix or easyubuntu or anything else ever again? :)
[12:26] <grubenpony> morphix: http://chris.silmor.de/config-<IP_ADDRESS>
[12:26] <wrabbit^> can't check synaptic atm.  Using apt to upgrade to engy
[12:26] <wrabbit^> edgy
[12:27] <wrabbit^> isn't there a command line query to check?
[12:27] <morphix> grubenpony, and i just rename that to .config and place in my /usr/src/linux dir, correct?
[12:27] <mnepton> wrabbit^: apt-cache search installed nvidia
[12:27] <Init5> hey, I've installed fluxbox on my dapper, but I don't see any option on which window menager to run at boot.. how do I start fluxbox then?  :)
[12:28] <wrabbit^> mnepton: gives me nothing
[12:28] <morphix> Init5, you use gdm?
[12:28] <Init5> gnome
[12:28] <whyso_> 'hmmm azreus made a popup box and it wont go away...
[12:28] <morphix> Init5, no, gdm the gnome login? (the default)
[12:28] <Init5> yes
[12:28] <mnepton> whyso_: known bug in the current stable. get the beta.
[12:29] <grubenpony> morphix: 1. cd /usr/src/linux ; make distclean 2. copy the file under the name .config there 3. make menuconfig, change nothing, just exit with save, then make, make modules_install ...
[12:29] <morphix> it will have "session" on the screen
[12:29] <whyso_> k thanx
[12:29] <morphix> click that then choose fluxbox
[12:29] <whyso_> mnepton: how do i make it so a file type is always (withotu right clicking and choosing) opened by a desired application?
[12:29] <Init5> morphix: but I can't even start fluxbox, I don't know how while running gnome
[12:29] <variant> dhq: wget -m will mirror a site
[12:30] <variant> dhq: it wont download scripts that are server side though, only the resulting output from those scripts
[12:30] <morphix> Init5, log out.. then on the login screen go to "session" then choose "fluxbox" then login
[12:30] <dhq> variant: -m means all the files with directories etc rite
[12:30] <morphix> grubenpony, ok thanks
[12:30] <dhq> variant: but i need thee scripts also
[12:30] <Init5> morphix: ok thanks a lot  :))
[12:30] <variant> dhq: it means mirror image, every file needed to display the site.. you might want to add recursion and spidering but be carefull
[12:31] <variant> dhq: then you need local access to the server
[12:31] <variant> dhq: thats the point with server side scripts..
[12:31] <dhq> variant: oh ok
[12:31] <variant> dhq: it's impossible to get those without "cracking" the site or being an admin/having ssh access
[12:32] <dhq> variant: k
[12:32] <dhq> variant: even java scripts
[12:33] <Snake[Sleep] > Will edgy's grub be able to detect vista on another partition?
[12:33] <dhq> why do people use windows when linux is so gr8 lolz
[12:34] <HumanPrototype> Snake[Sleep] : If vista uses the same boot process and gubbins as win xp then yes
[12:34] <Snake[Sleep] > dhq, because its part of my job ;-)
[12:34] <HumanPrototype> dhq: because i can earn money by making access databases :D
[12:34] <Snake[Sleep] > HumanPrototype, alright
[12:34] <dhq> but most linux users and my self hate windows :(
[12:35] <dhq> but if its your buisness i wont say anything :(
[12:35] <Snake[Sleep] > Then I think when edgy is released im going to wipe dapper and do a fresh install, and get vista then too
[12:35] <Snake[Sleep] > Great plan snake
[12:35] <Snake[Sleep] > :-)
[12:35] <HumanPrototype> dhq: thats why i dont use it unless i have to
[12:35] <whyso> come on someone help :(
[12:35] <pckim93> How do you add boot parameters?
[12:35] <omnius> alls good
[12:35] <dhq> HumanPrototype: good for you :)
[12:35] <HumanPrototype> Snake[Sleep] : try with a beta? i think rc1 is online
[12:35] <dhq> hey i am using edgy
[12:36] <Snake[Sleep] > dhq, Games, DJing, and Troubleshooting is all I need it for. All else, linux can handle, and look good while doing it with beryl/compiz
[12:36] <pckim93> how do you add boot parameters while booting the desktop CD?
[12:36] <Snake[Sleep] > HumanPrototype, na ill just wait till the 24th
[12:36] <Snake[Sleep] > That is the release right?
[12:36] <HumanPrototype> Snake[Sleep] : of vista?
[12:37] <Snake[Sleep] > HumanPrototype, edgy
[12:37] <e0500751> hi @ all ;)
[12:37] <Snake[Sleep] > HumanPrototype, I have the RC2 of vista ;-)
[12:37] <TLE> isn't it the 26th
[12:37] <TLE> ?
[12:37] <Paddy_EIRE> Snake[Sleep] , its crap aint it
[12:37] <pckim93> How do you add boot parameters during startup???
[12:38] <whyso> whats this mean when trying to update? W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[12:38] <Snake[Sleep] > Paddy_EIRE, havn't installed it yet on a full system, just under vmware with beta1, at the time it just seemed like a resource hogging xp
[12:38] <HumanPrototype> Paddy_EIRE: language...
[12:38] <HumanPrototype> whyso: you need the gpg key for that repo - i think thats the plf repo so check their website
[12:38] <morphix> pckim93, in grub you can select the kernel you want to boot then hit e, then in kernel line press e then append your parameters to the end
[12:39] <e0500751> are there any BTTV - experts in this channel ?
[12:39] <pckim93> I can't get to grub.  I have NO O/S installed.
[12:39] <AJ1> hello all, im 90% through getting m wireless to work
[12:39] <whyso> k thanx
[12:39] <HumanPrototype> pckim93: then you need to install one and it will set up the boot stuff itself
[12:40] <HumanPrototype> pckim93: what are you trying to do?
[12:40] <AJ1> need some help with wireless, can anyone help plz?
[12:40] <pckim93> Hmmm... Installation is the main problem I'm having actually.
[12:40] <L3TUC3> how do I switch my cursor from a windowed game to my desktop?
[12:40] <HumanPrototype> pckim93: have you tried the alternate install cd
[12:40] <wrabbit^> Anybody know if there's a command line query to see which drivers you've recently installed?
[12:40] <pckim93> I have ASUS P5B-VM motherboard (G965 chipset)
[12:40] <pckim93> I'm in the process of downloading it.
[12:40] <HumanPrototype> L3TUC3: a linux game or a cedega game?
[12:40] <L3TUC3> linux
[12:40] <pckim93> Should I get the Intel version or the AMD64 version for Core 2 Duo?
[12:41] <morphix> pckim93, ugh.. there is known problem with your board.. i have a similar board (uses 975 chipset) and i have problems.
[12:41] <Wanderer> Anyone know how to get ssh in ubuntu to use ipv6 by default?
[12:41] <HumanPrototype> pckim93: depends if you want the 64bit support - anybody else have a core 2 duo here?
[12:41] <morphix> HumanPrototype, i do
[12:41] <whyso> how do i change what program oppens an application by default?
[12:41] <L3TUC3> HumanPrototype: linx
[12:41] <HumanPrototype> morphix: and you are having to recompile your kernel atm arent you?
[12:41] <L3TUC3> *linux
[12:41] <AJ1> need some help with wireless, can anyone help plz?
[12:42] <HumanPrototype> L3TUC3: hmm, is it bound to the window? try Alt+tab
[12:42] <pckim93> morphix, have you been able to install it eventually?
[12:42] <morphix> HumanPrototype, i am having to compile it because of the jmicron issue yes
[12:42] <HumanPrototype> pckim93: will you be using ide drives?
[12:42] <HumanPrototype> morphix: is that just ide drives?
[12:42] <morphix> pckim93, i can install it... as the 975 chipset uses intel ide for main ide
[12:42] <L3TUC3> HumanPrototype: tried it, but it doesnt seem to work
[12:42] <morphix> HumanPrototype, yeh need support for the ide drives
[12:42] <whyso>  how do i change what program oppens an application by default?
[12:43] <pckim93> HumanPrototype, I have a SATA hard drive and an IDE CD/DVD-ROM drive
[12:43] <mnepton> whyso: i answered that 20 minutes ago
[12:43] <HumanPrototype> L3TUC3: maybe the game had blocked alt tab
[12:43] <HumanPrototype> morphix: so is it ok with ide optical drives?
[12:43] <morphix> pckim93, there is a work around to getting the cdrom to work with it.. just a sec and i'll get it
[12:43] <L3TUC3> HumanPrototype: ut2k4?
[12:43] <pckim93> morphix, thanks.
[12:43] <AJ1> need some help with wireless, can anyone help plz??
[12:43] <HumanPrototype> pckim93: morphix has the same mobo and cpu so ill leave you with him if thats ok
[12:43] <totall_6_7> whyso: what type of file are you trying to get to open with what program
[12:44] <morphix> HumanPrototype, its ok with on my intel ide.. but not jmicron ide
[12:44] <whyso> mp3
[12:44] <morphix> i have similar mobo.
[12:44] <morphix> not the same chipset
[12:44] <morphix> similar issues tho
[12:44] <HumanPrototype> L3TUC3: sorry - im not that familiar with native games as I dont play much and I use cedega
[12:44] <whyso> i hit right click and open with, but next time just reverts back to other program
[12:44] <mnepton> whyso_: right-click -> properties -> open with
[12:44] <pckim93> HumanPrototype, thanks.
[12:44] <mnepton> (x2)
[12:44] <whyso> k ty
[12:44] <pckim93> morphix, yes, it's not quite the same... is there any BIOS settings I need to change?
[12:44] <mnepton> whyso: and that's the second time you have thanked me for the exact same information
[12:45] <HumanPrototype> whyso: select which you want with the radio buttons and it will use that by defauly
[12:45] <HumanPrototype> s/dfauly/default
[12:45] <L3TUC3> ok, what is the minimize command then?
[12:45] <whyso> yeah, i know i did wrong thing first time
[12:45] <morphix> pckim93, not that i am aware of.. trying to find the guide of getting dvd/cd rom drives work on your chipset mobo, is your mobo the gigabyte one?
[12:45] <pckim93> No, it's ASUS.
[12:46] <HumanPrototype> L3TUC3: maybe alt f11 i think but im not sure
[12:46] <morphix> the p5b
[12:46] <pckim93> Yes, it's P5B-VM
[12:46] <AJ1> guys really need help can anyone offer some plz
[12:46] <HumanPrototype> AJ1: tell us the prob and i will help if i can
[12:46] <totall_6_7> !question
[12:47] <AJ1> HumanPrototype : thanks man
[12:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <morphix> pckim93, mines the p5w dh.. anyway.. look at this for your problems. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support
[12:47] <AJ1> HumanPrototype : ok i have got my wireless 90% setup and if i type iwcofig, i get all my device stuff up
[12:47] <AJ1> HumanPrototype : but it says "Acess Point Not Associated"
[12:47] <pckim93> This is my exact box (except with 2GB of RAM instead of one):
[12:47] <pckim93> http://www.a-power.com/product.php?productid=2600&cat=459&page=1&ssid=577c9b5fb5c5f74cb8111e955bad374e&store_language=US
[12:47] <AJ1> HumanPrototype : i need to know how i set this up in ubuntu
[12:47] <cpk2> AJ1: you trying to connect with ad-hoc or managed mode?
[12:48] <AJ1> cpk2 : in english plz :)
[12:48] <mnepton> AJ1: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[12:48] <cpk2> AJ1: you connecting to a router?
[12:48] <morphix> pckim93, so its pretty much using kernel parameter "all-generic-ide irqpoll"
[12:48] <AJ1> mnepton : i dont have wireless working on my ubuntu one yet, im on a laptop running windows to get in here
[12:48] <mnepton> AJ1: WAP or WEP?
[12:49] <AJ1> PSK
[12:49] <mnepton> AJ1: that's WPA.
[12:49] <AJ1> mnepton : is that good or bad
[12:49] <AJ1> mnepton : or should i choose another method?
[12:49] <pckim93> I don't know how to pass that parameter...
[12:49] <mnepton> AJ1: set your WAP to use WEP, use the stabdard GNOME network config to connect, install network-manager-gnome, then revert to WPA-PSK
[12:50] <mnepton> *standard
[12:50] <AJ1> mnepton : how do i install that, is it in by default?
[12:50] <mnepton> AJ1: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[12:50] <cpk2> mnepton: how is he to apt-get if he cant use the internet?
[12:50] <AJ1> mnepton: i dont have internet access on my ubuntu machine, will it still install?
[12:51] <mnepton> i just told you how to get internet access
[12:51] <AJ1> ive used ndisgtk and ndiswrapper to get this far if that means anything
[12:51] <mnepton> AJ1: set your WAP to use WEP, use the stabdard GNOME network config to connect, install network-manager-gnome, then revert to WPA-PSK
[12:51] <AJ1> mnepton : ok how do i set it to use wep
[12:51] <AJ1> mnepton : is that in the router?
[12:51] <mnepton> i don't know. it's *your* router. ;)
[12:52] <AJ1> mnepton: lol
[12:52] <HumanPrototype> AJ1: open a terminal and enter iwlist scan
[12:52] <AJ1> HumanPrototype: ok
[12:52] <GhostFreeman> How would I uninstall Xubuntu and all of its included applications?
[12:52] <AJ1> HumanPrototype: ok it says loads of text
[12:52] <HumanPrototype> AJ1: it should tell you about your ap
[12:52] <AJ1> HumanPrototype: cell 01 mode managed
[12:52] <morphix> pckim93, download the edgy beta alternate cd.. and when the initial "boot or install ubuntu" screen press F6, it should show a box in the bottom right hand corner.. enter what i said there
[12:53] <AJ1> ok HumanPrototype and mnepton im goin to change this router setting, ill get discon but be right back ...
[12:54] <pckim93> Thanks, morphix.  I'll try that.
[12:54] <morphix> pckim93, hope yours work.. as mine isnt :(
[12:54] <morphix> brb
[12:54] <HumanPrototype> AJ1: then use sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid (your essid) mode managed channel (channel) enc (encryption key in hex)
[12:54] <pckim93> morphix, so dapper alternate won't work?
[12:54] <morphix> pckim93, apparently not.
[12:54] <morphix> brb.. gotta try something
[12:55] <pckim93> morphix, thanks.
[12:55] <mnepton> HumanPrototype: iirc, that will not work with WPA-PSK as it does not correctly invoke wpa-supplicant
[12:55] <Tjoels> yo
[12:58] <Tjoels> is it absolutely neccessary to use the nv driver instead of the nvidia one?
[12:58] <cpk2> Tjoels: no
[12:58] <mnepton> Tjoels: only if you care about your machine not being compromised
[12:58] <Tjoels> hehe
[12:58] <Tjoels> well, how big are the chances?
[12:59] <mnepton> bigger every day
[12:59] <Tjoels> :P
[12:59] <GhostFreeman> How would I uninstall/remove Xubuntu from my system?
[12:59] <mnepton> all it takes is rendering a font. from a web page, a document, a terminal window .... anything
[12:59] <byteshack> has someone installed nx successfully?
[12:59] <Normal> Is there a program that I can get that'll look at my system and make a kernel that'll run ubuntu with it?
[12:59] <mnepton> GhostFreeman: the entire system or just XFCE?
[12:59] <morphix> hmm
[01:00] <GhostFreeman> just Xfce
[01:00] <mnepton> GhostFreeman: apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[01:00] <LeeJunFan> well, be ready for the confusion. Some dip wrote in his blog that 6.10 was available and digg is running it.
[01:00] <wdamn> what live version of ubuntu should I run on an intel macbook?
[01:00] <variant> dhq: javascript is part of the html page normally, or in a seperate file. you should be able to get that
[01:01] <cpk2> LeeJunFan: lol
[01:01] <GhostFreeman> thanks mnepton
[01:01] <variant> wdamn: i guess the x86 one but im not certain
[01:01] <mnepton> wdamn: i386
[01:02] <byteshack> nxclient deb package requires libstdc++2.10, and that is not on the repo, what can I do?
[01:02] <wdamn> variant, mnepton : I know, I meant: do I need an updated version of 6.06?
[01:02] <variant> wdamn: nam
[01:02] <variant> wdamn: nah
[01:03] <Normal> I need to make my on kernel, as any 2.6.15+ refuse to boot , and I can't install a graphics driver on 2.6.12-9
[01:03] <Tjoels> When i update my repositories list, i get this error about a key: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27195/
[01:04] <wrabbit^> Anybody know how to find out which graphics drivers you have installed via the command line?
[01:05] <L3TUC3> how would I figure out what type of pc cards my card bus can handle?
[01:05] <Tjoels> look in xorg.conf
[01:05] <Normal> Is there anyone with kernel advice? Is it possible to make a kernel for Ubuntu? Or use one from another distro?
[01:05] <wrabbit^> Tjoels: good idea, thanks
[01:06] <bimberi> !kernelcompile
[01:06] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:06] <Tjoels> wrabbit^: u welcome :P
[01:06] <fida> hi
[01:07] <mnepton> Normal: why would you want to do that?
[01:07] <byteshack> Normal: as far as I know, sure, you can make a Kernel for Ubuntu
[01:07] <sami> Tjoels, write this to commandline: gpg --recv "KEY"; gpg --export --armor "KEY" | sudo apt-key add -          ...without quotes
[01:08] <byteshack> and most probably you can use another distro's kernel
[01:08] <wabbit> Hi all. I am using dapper ubuntu and have just compiled and installed the latest alsa <IP_ADDRESS> driver lib and utils packages following instructions from http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=ICH+southbridge+HD-audio+and+modem.&chip=ICH6%2C+ICH6M%2C+ICH7%2C+ESB2&module=hda-intel but when I cat /pro/asound/version it displays 1.0.10rc3. Am I missing something?
[01:08] <wrabbit^> hmmm.... should I be worried? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27197/
[01:08] <Tjoels> all in one command?
[01:08] <byteshack> the only tricky thing might be installing the thrid party kernel on your ubuntu system appropiately
[01:08] <Tjoels> sami: all in one command?
[01:08] <byteshack> ie. might need some grub tinkering
[01:08] <sami> yes
[01:09] <Tjoels> sami: should the "KEY" be the name of the key i want to add?
[01:09] <mnepton> wrabbit^: yes. you are using the vulnerable driver.
[01:09] <Tjoels> sami: or just KEY
[01:09] <wrabbit^> mnepton: is there a way to uninstall it?
[01:09] <mnepton> wrabbit^: just chnage "nvidia" to "nv" on that line and reboot
[01:09] <sami> gpg --recv F120156012B83718; gpg --export --armor F120156012B83718 | sudo apt-key add -
[01:10] <Tjoels> wrabit^ or just ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:10] <sami> that should work
[01:10] <wrabbit^> mnepton: it's as simple as that?  but wouldn't that just be changing the name and not the actual installed drivers?
[01:10] <mnepton> wrabbit^: the vulnerability exists in running the driver. not having it installed.
[01:10] <Tjoels> sami: is that the number that it said from the error output i posted in pastebin?
[01:11] <wrabbit^> ah, ok, I think I get it.  Well that's cool.  So is there a way to pause the dist-upgrade I have running?
[01:11] <sami> yes
[01:12] <cpk2> using propietary nvidia driver is a vulnerbility?
[01:12] <Tjoels> sami: cool, thank you!
[01:12] <bionoid> cpk2: Yes, fixed in latest version I think
[01:12] <sami> is it working now
[01:12] <sami> no problem ;)
[01:13] <cpk2> bionoid: fixed in latest nvidia driver? I dont see how it could have  been a big hole?
[01:13] <Tjoels> sami: yeah, it is. thanks! :P
[01:13] <mnepton> cpk2: it's a very dangerous hole.
[01:14] <mnepton> and there is a fix in the beta, but that driver only works on Edgy, and only for ~10% of people.
[01:14] <mnepton> (it is a beta, after all)
[01:14] <Tjoels> what? is there an update to the nvidia driver that fixes the bug?
[01:14] <wrabbit^> So there's no way to pause an apt download?
[01:14] <mnepton> Tjoels: nothing you want to use.
[01:14] <Tjoels> oh
[01:14] <Tjoels> i see..
[01:14] <boink> !tell boink about easysource
[01:15] <boink> !tell boink about easysource
[01:15] <Tjoels> sami: how did you put together those commands, alle from your hear or a guide or something? ;P
[01:15] <Tjoels> all*
[01:15] <Tjoels> head*
[01:15] <Zer0Ry0k0> I have spent the last 5 hours trying to get FreeCiv to run, the current problem I'm stuck at is
[01:15] <Zer0Ry0k0> checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.2.1... no
[01:15] <Tjoels> argh, i hate typos
[01:16] <wrabbit^> ok, how about this.  Will restarting during a dist-upgrade screw up the install if I start it up again after a reboot?
[01:16] <mnepton> Zer0Ry0k0: did you instal via apt-get/Synaptic?
[01:16] <Zer0Ry0k0> and then it checks for all older versions and says I don't have GTK+ installed correctly
[01:16] <Zer0Ry0k0> synaptic mainly...
[01:16] <SeanTater> boink: ubotu just left
[01:16] <mnepton> wrabbit^: interrupting an update is a very dicey proposition
[01:16] <Zer0Ry0k0> I don't know if I succufully installed anything with apt-get
[01:16] <wrabbit^> mnepton: then I'm screwed until it's done
[01:17] <mnepton> wrabbit^: close your eyes and think of england
[01:17] <wrabbit^> mnepton: rainy weather and gloomy days?
[01:17] <mnepton> wrabbit^: women with thick ankles and pies made of roadkill
[01:17] <Zer0Ry0k0> I would copy the whole error message, but it's nearly 10 lines
[01:18] <wrabbit^> mnepton: sounds like heaven.
[01:18] <mnepton> Zer0Ry0k0: sudo apt-get install freeciv
[01:18] <mnepton> done.
 use pastebin
[01:18] <wrabbit^> seriously though, there's only 3 hours of the upgrade to go
[01:18] <wrabbit^> should beo k
[01:18] <Tjoels> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[01:19] <Tjoels> when is edgy released?
[01:19] <SeanTater> !schedule > Tjoels
[01:19] <SeanTater> Tjoels: just a few days
[01:19] <Tjoels> cool
[01:19] <bimberi> Tjoels: Oct 26 is the target
[01:19] <Tjoels> ubotu is not here.
[01:19] <Tjoels> lol
[01:19] <bimberi> ubotu is down atm
[01:19] <Tjoels> ok, cool :)
[01:19] <SeanTater> Tjoels: so I;m noticing
[01:20] <Zer0Ry0k0> Tjoles, now click download as text?
 what?
[01:20] <Zer0Ry0k0> the pastebin
[01:20] <byteshack> is there a way to see which packages I installed  manually and which packages got installed as a result of a dependency?
[01:20] <gunfus> what is the latest kernerl for ubuntus?
[01:21] <Zer0Ry0k0> I pasted it, pressed okay and it'st ill a block of text
 yea? welll just give the link to the pasted stuff in this channel together with ur question
[01:21] <Zer0Ry0k0> ohh
[01:21] <Zer0Ry0k0> okay
[01:21] <Tjoels> :)
[01:22] <Zer0Ry0k0> How do I get FreeCiv to run? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27201/
[01:22] <Zer0Ry0k0> I've been dealing with this for too long, I should be in bed 3 hours ago
[01:23] <Matii> Is there a way to convert .png files to .xpm files?
[01:23] <mnepton> Zer0Ry0k0: sudo apt-get install freeciv
[01:23] <eyedol_> gunfus, 2.6.17-10-386
[01:23] <Zer0Ry0k0> yeah, I tried that and it says...
[01:23] <Zer0Ry0k0> couldn't find package
[01:23] <Tjoels> update ur repositories
[01:23] <gunfus> eyedol, how can I pick up that kernel because my update hasn't found it yet
[01:23] <mnepton> Zer0Ry0k0: enable Universe and Multiverse
[01:23] <eyedol_> Madeye, yes
[01:24] <Madeye> eyedol, sorry ?
[01:24] <Zer0Ry0k0> with the Update Manager?
[01:24] <eyedol_> Matii, yes
[01:24] <Madeye> ah :-)
[01:24] <Matii> eyedol_: What is the program to do that called?
[01:24] <eyedol_> gunfus, is in edgy
[01:24] <eyedol_> Matii, gimp can do that
[01:24] <Zer0Ry0k0> I probably should go to bed, I can barely think
[01:25] <Matii> eyedol_: thanks
[01:25] <eyedol_> Matii, no problem
[01:25] <Zer0Ry0k0> if this isn't going to be easy... I'll get to it tomorow
[01:25] <Matii> Zer0Ry0k0: it is easy
[01:25] <Zer0Ry0k0> k, thanks
[01:25] <gunfus> eyedol, so just go find it using synaptic, but is weird how my autoupdate hasn't pickuped  the new kernel.. is it supposed to?
[01:25] <eyedol_> gunfus, are you on dapper?
[01:26] <gunfus> yes
[01:26] <jch> "Assume an element of a group, x, has order rs. Find the order of x^r." Advice?
[01:26] <nahoj> here is something I can't understand: When connected to the network in my school running Ubuntu I never get speeds over 80kb/s. But when I tried to connect via VMWare - server running WinXP the speed easily went over 400 kb/s. The connection to internet is DMZ.
[01:26] <Nothing_About> hey i need some help
[01:26] <eyedol_> gunfus, that is why, the new kernel is in edgy
[01:26] <eyedol_> gunfus, I'm on edgy
[01:26] <Nothing_About> how do i put or add files to my usr folders as an admin
[01:26] <gunfus> ohh
[01:26] <Zer0Ry0k0> yeah, I tried that and it says: E: Couldn't find package freeciv
[01:26] <webben> would it be possible to run two sessions of gnome, logged in as a different user in each, switching between them with ctrl + alt + fX ?
[01:27] <gunfus> eyedol, hmm okay.. so I guess I got to go read to see how I upgrade
[01:27] <Zer0Ry0k0> Tjoles
[01:27] <Nothing_About> Whenever i try and copy paste a file within my usr share folder it asks for admin privilages
[01:27] <Zer0Ry0k0> err..... I meant to type the name before that line....
[01:27] <eyedol_> gunfus, shouldn't be that difficult
[01:27] <Nothing_About> how do i get my admin rights working so i can put stuff in folders
[01:27] <gunfus> eyedol_: yeah..
[01:27] <eyedol_> gunfus,  edit your source.list file and change all dapper to edgy
[01:27] <mnepton> Zer0Ry0k0: go do a google serach for "add repository ubuntu"
[01:27] <Zer0Ry0k0> okay, thanks
[01:27] <screechingcat> i want to know how to brun multisession discs in gnomebaker
[01:28] <gunfus> ubotu tell gunfus about source.list
[01:28] <louis_> gunfus sudo update-manager -c -d
[01:31] <Zer0Ry0k0> is it a bad thing to install things you don't need
[01:31] <Zer0Ry0k0> ?
[01:31] <sami> Tjoels, i did have that problem too a few weeks ago and i found some guide from internet..
[01:32] <Tjoels> sami: okey. but thanks ;)
[01:32] <eyedol__> Zer0Ry0k0, why install something you don't need, isn't that was of disk space
[01:32] <sami> Tjoels, no prob!!
[01:32] <eyedol__> Zer0Ry0k0, why install something you don't need, isn't that waste of disk space
[01:32] <Zer0Ry0k0> well, not that I'm going to install everything there is, but I installed things with the same name just to makre sure I wasn't missing some files in there which were needed (and that was the case a couple times tonight)
[01:33] <Tjoels> sami; :P
[01:33] <Zer0Ry0k0> so yeah, now the apt-get install freeciv works
[01:33] <Zer0Ry0k0> omfg..
[01:33] <Zer0Ry0k0> there went 5 hours of nothing basically.
[01:33] <AJ1> HumanPrototype : hey man you there
[01:34] <AJ1> HumanPrototype & mnepton : i rebooted ubuntu now my wireless adapter wont start when i do sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:35] <Zer0Ry0k0> wow, just wow.    Thanks for telling me to enable the world of repositories
[01:36] <AJ1> anyone know why after rebooting ubuntu my wifi usb wont fire up when i do modprobe ndiswrapper?
[01:36] <gunfus> eyedol_: anything that I had to do after that?
[01:38] <AJ1> anyone? help plz
[01:38] <AJ1> :S
[01:38] <wrabbit^> hey guys... cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep Driver also works. :)
[01:38] <martin> Hi, how do I get openoffice to print to the kde printer?
[01:38] <hmrocha> hello
[01:38] <acuster> anyone know how to make an eacute in ubuntu?
[01:38] <acuster> on a us keyboard
[01:38] <hmrocha> i'm trying to customize the dapper livecd
[01:39] <hmrocha> how can i change de default keyboard mapping to pt_PT?
[01:39] <webben> acuster: it varies, but you know there's a character map don't you? (Applications -> Accessories)
[01:40] <webben> acuster, also check out Character Palette for the panel
[01:40] <Cholito> I'm trying edgy for a few days and I was wondering how to downgrade firefox to 1.X so I can install some extensions, any ideas?
[01:40] <reon> Is  /etc/rc.d/  something from 2.4 kernel days ???
[01:41] <gunfus> eyedol_: anything that I had to do after that?
[01:41] <AJ1> mnepton: hello
[01:41] <eyedol> gunfus, sudo aptitude update
[01:41] <eyedol> gunfus, then after that sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[01:42] <sami> anyone upgrade dapper to edgy.. is there any known problems?
[01:43] <gunfus> eyedol, thanks that is working away
[01:43] <Cholito> sami, I'm using it right now and it's working ok
[01:43] <Cholito> sami, I can't install FF extensions thou
[01:43] <sami> any dependency problems?
[01:44] <Cholito> sami, not yet
[01:44] <sami> ok
[01:44] <gunfus> eyedol_: and if later I want to get the source for the kernel..?
[01:44] <gunfus> eyedol_:  or that will also get updated..?
[01:44] <sami> maybe i will wait couple weeks.. ;)
[01:45] <sami> ..for upgrade!
[01:45] <acuster> webben, thanks
[01:45] <acuster> I need to figure this out for good someday
[01:46] <Cholito> so, anyonw knows how to downgrade firefox?
[01:46] <webben> acuster: if you go to System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layout options and fiddle with the settings for Compose key and Third-level key
[01:46] <webben> acuster, you out to be able to get an eacute sequence
[01:46] <webben> (e.g. for me i press right alt + ' then e for e acute
[01:47] <webben> s/you out/you ought/
[01:47] <acuster> yeah
[01:47] <djuuss> What window manager does Xubuntu use? and can i just apt-get it from a normal ubuntu install? (i'm looking for a lightweight window manager to use on my second xserver, just for games)
[01:47] <acuster> I fiddle around once in a while
[01:47] <acuster> and then upgrade and everything breaks ;-)
[01:47] <sami> djuuss, xfce4
[01:47] <djuuss> thx sami
[01:47] <sami> openbox is much lighter
[01:48] <gunfus> eyedol_:  or that will also get updated..?
[01:48] <acuster> webben, when I copy a character from the  Character Map, what encoding is it in?
[01:48] <acuster> the locale's?
[01:48] <webben> acuster: hmm, not sure, i do /everything/ in UTF-8 to avoid that sort of question
[01:49] <tuqann> Hi, how can I change the owner of a folder?????
[01:49] <acuster> webben, HA! got it gedit is being too smart for my own good.
[01:49] <acuster> webben, thanks again
[01:49] <djuuss> i already installed Kubuntu over Ubuntu, but i think both GDM and KDM are running. How can i stop GDM from running at boot?
[01:49] <webben> acuster, no problem
[01:51] <AJR> really need help with wg111t and ubuntu
[01:51] <AJR> anyone?
[01:52] <Axord> Cholito: have you tried the Nightly Tester Tools extension to "upgrade" your extensions instead?
[01:53] <Alscorpion> ##php
[01:53] <gunfus> eyedol_:  or that will also get updated..?
[01:54] <L3TUC3> if I were to get a pcmcia wireless card, what should I keep in mind?
[01:54] <overrider> there are so many network bandwidth analyzers, would you recommend ntop , mrtg, bandwidthd, iptraf or what?
[01:55] <AJR> really need help with wg111t and ubuntu
[01:56] <AJR> HumanPrototype: you around mate
[01:56] <gunfus> eyedol:   or that will also get updated..?
[01:57] <AJR> guys why does unplugging and plugging back in my wifi adapter crash linux?
[01:57] <gunfus> eyedol: sorry.. the message got cut.. I was asking if doing the update, if it will also update my source dir
[01:59] <AJR> someone please help if you cna
[01:59] <AJR> this is irritating
[02:00] <AJR> i had my wg111t working, i rebooted, now sudo modprobe ndiswrapper doesnt work anymore ... any ideas?
[02:01] <tuna> could someone tell how to change the default window manager?
[02:01] <onurx> I installed ubuntu on my laptop(widescreen), now it supports just "1024x768" and "800x600" , I need "1280x800" how can I configure this?
[02:02] <tuna> oops, not window manager but display manager. I think
[02:02] <morphix> onurx, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[02:03] <gunfus> eyedol: sorry.. the message got cut.. I was asking if doing the update, if it will also update my source dir
[02:03] <morphix> tuna, in gdm (the login screen on a default install) click "session" then choose what display manager you want, then login, it should ask you if you want it to be the default session
[02:03] <rem64> hi all
[02:04] <eyedol> gunfus, no it shouldn't
[02:04] <vanhtu1987> onurx: You want high resolution in console mode or in X ?
[02:05] <gunfus> eyedol: can I get the command to update my source later..?
[02:05] <[GuS] > Hi prople... after upgrade today of proftpd... has problems to start the service
[02:05] <tuna> morphis: the login screen is kdm now, and it doesn't ask if it should be default
[02:05] <[GuS] > i use proftpd-mysql package
[02:05] <eyedol> gunfus, what source are we talking about here?
[02:06] <cef> ever since switching back to the nv driver, my system is quite laggy in video performance.. any suggestions on what to check? also how do I stop the nvidia kernel module loading automatically at boot (without removing restricted modules that is)?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> gunfus: sudo apt-get update   updates the sources.list to look for new updates (it doesnt change the list)
[02:06] <[GuS] > i have this error when i try to start proftpd service:  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'server.gdnet.com.ar' error: No address associated with hostname
[02:07] <vanhtu1987> cef: Try uninstalling the nvidia binary blob.
[02:07] <AJR> need some help with ndiswrapper plz anyone help?
[02:07] <cef> vanhtu1987: you mean nvidia-glx? gone already
[02:08] <Cholito> Axord, thanks for the extension, but the problem is with the extension as is not compatible with ff2.0
[02:08] <variant> Cholito: you using edgy?
[02:08] <Cholito> yes
[02:08] <vanhtu1987> cef: You may then remove/rename the kernel module, it doesn't hurt to do it.
[02:08] <variant> Cholito: ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:08] <AJR> Would a reboot cause ndiswrapper to lose its config?
[02:09] <cef> vanhtu1987: yeah I guess..
[02:09] <variant> AJR: :)
[02:09] <AJR> variant : lol hey
[02:09] <Axord> Cholito: the version of NTT I'm looking at seems to be good for FF2 to 3
[02:09] <Cholito> variant, thanks
[02:10] <Cholito> Axord, I'm talking about tmp
[02:10] <cef> bbk
[02:10] <byteshack> is there a text mode www browser that supports ssl/tls?
[02:10] <byteshack> so that you can, for instance, login to a gmail account from a putty connection?
[02:10] <Axord> Cholito: The purpose of NTT is to force extensions to be installed on "wrong" FF versions
[02:11] <Axord> Well, one of the purpsoes anyway
[02:11] <grubenpony> byteshack: i think links can to ssl
[02:11] <byteshack> let me check that, links2 couldn't
[02:11] <grubenpony> byteshack: maybe newer w3m can do it too
[02:11] <j2daosh> anyone in here have wine installed?
[02:11] <variant> byteshack: lynx, links, links2
[02:11] <byteshack> grubenpony: I'll try w3m
[02:11] <Cholito> Axord, somehow it breaks ff2
[02:11] <eyedol> j2daosh, yes but I hardly use it though
[02:11] <variant> byteshack:  it can, i use it for gmail all the time
[02:11] <byteshack> variant: they don't seem to do ssl, at least not the binary ones
[02:11] <Axord> Cholito: awww. Ok.
[02:11] <byteshack> variant: which one specifically?
[02:12] <vanhtu1987> byteshack: IMO w3m with tabbed browsing is the best of all.
[02:12] <variant> byteshack: links2
[02:12] <j2daosh> eyedol: i have an application i believe may have a a virus binded to it. i want to open the program using wine
[02:12] <Cholito> I guess I can't just install ff1.5.x
[02:12] <j2daosh> i have installed wine,wine-dev,libwine,libwine-dev... but i cant get it to configure... how do i do that
[02:13] <variant> Cholito: yeah, remove firefox2 and download the firefox 1.5 .deb and use dpkg to isntall it
[02:13] <morphix> j2daosh, winecfg
[02:13] <variant> j2daosh: just run wine
[02:13] <byteshack> variant: and you just use the default compiled version that comes with dapper of links2?
[02:13] <vanhtu1987> variant: The version of links2 in the Ubuntu tree doesn't support TSL by default, AFAIK.
[02:13] <Cholito> variant, gnome depends on ff2.0
[02:13] <variant> byteshack: i use edgy
[02:13] <byteshack> Cholito: nice nick :) You from southeramerica?
[02:13] <j2daosh> ok got it up... lol cant use putty have to be at the desktop for it appartantly :(
[02:13] <byteshack> variant: ah..
[02:13] <eyedol> j2daosh, wine applicationname.exe
[02:13] <Cholito> byteshack, Peru 8)
[02:14] <byteshack> Cholito: cool, where from?
[02:14] <Cholito> Lima ;o)
[02:14] <variant> j2daosh: putty has a linux version, why not just use the terminal though
[02:14] <morphix> ssh ftw
[02:14] <Cholito> variant, that's why I can't just uninstall ff2 and install ff1.5
[02:15] <variant> Cholito: i see, install ff1.5 into a chroot, bit of work but should be fine. will take a bit of time to set up the chroot though
[02:16] <Cholito> i know...
[02:16] <Cholito> thanks =)
[02:16] <byteshack> w3m rocks ;)
[02:16] <AJR> someone here must be able to help with this ndiswrapper problem i have
[02:16] <grubenpony> byteshack: it does :)
[02:16] <AJR> anyone??