[12:01] <jawee> ikonia: And everything was going fine
[12:01] <ikonia> jawee: more so for someone who has been using linux as root for years
[12:01] <n2diy> jawee: sudo modprobe....
[12:01] <Pollywog> is it possible to nondestructively move an ext3 partition so that the free space following it is in front?
[12:01] <jrib> kerik: ls /usr/lib/nautilus-sendto/plugins/    lists some files?
[12:01] <melman101> I instaleld the newest kernel, and now my sd card is close to working. when i put in a card i get a /dev/mmcblk0 but it still won't mount (mount -t vfat /dev/mmcblk0 /mnt/sdcard) It's a Ricoh R5C822 SD Card Reader built into a laptop (Dell D420). Any suggestions? I plugged in my USB SD card reader and it mounted automagically.
[12:01] <Pollywog> parted does not seem to move ext only resize
[12:01] <jawee> Oh, sorry.
[12:01] <jawee> With root I get: FATAL: Module ndiswapper not found.
[12:01] <Luke> How do I find my harddrives UUID?
[12:02] <ikonia> jawee: you should not be root
[12:02] <Pollywog> it can move vfat
[12:02] <ikonia> jawee: as I've told you on many occasions
[12:02] <Pollywog> not ext3
[12:02] <jawee> ikonia: I tried doing it with root and without...
[12:02] <Pollywog> I guess this will require a reinstall eh fellas?
[12:02] <kerik> jrib, lists 4 files...all ending on .so
[12:02] <n2diy> jawee:  it might be related to this<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:03] <jawee> ikonia: Honestly I was on an Ubuntu derivative earlier and their channel was dead so I asked here. I'm on Ubuntu now
[12:03] <Pollywog> my / partition has run out of space and I need to get some from /home
[12:03] <jrib> kerik: ok, in gaim, tools -> plugins .  Is Nautilus Integration enabled?
[12:03] <Luke> Does anyone know how do I find my harddrive's UUID?
[12:03] <ikonia> jawee: jawee you've lied to me too many times. Sorry
[12:03] <jrib> !uuid > Luke (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:03] <ikonia> Luke:  blkid
[12:03] <Pollywog> Luke is it not in fstab?
[12:03] <Horscht> I just installed the latest kernel update, and now in the "my computer" menu, I have an additional CD drive, but there's only one in my laptop.
[12:03] <jawee> ikonia: What besides that?
[12:03] <Horscht> How would I go about removing it?
[12:04] <ikonia> jawee: you've lied to me abou that
[12:04] <jawee> ikonia: I've used nothing but Linux for three ears
[12:04] <kerik> jrib, it was there but wasn't winged...
[12:04] <Luke> ikonia: thanks mate!
[12:04] <Pollywog> three ears?
[12:04] <kerik> jrib, it is now however..
[12:04] <ikonia> jawee: then you should be able to debug this easy
[12:04] <usr_rob> gnomefreak: i've removed totem-mozilla, just have to open the file in totem-xine instead, so far so good
[12:04] <jrib> kerik: k, now restart nautilus with:  killall nautilus
[12:04] <kerik> jrib, you're a freaking genious!
[12:04] <jawee> ikonia: I used SUSE for years which taught me little
[12:04] <jawee> ikonia: I've just begin to explore more advanced things
[12:04] <kerik> jrib, didn't even have to restart I think...I can right click and send to now :)
[12:04] <ikonia> jawee: sorry you mess me around too much
[12:05] <jrib> kerik: great, /usr/share/doc/nautilus-sendto/README.Debian is what helped btw
[12:05] <defcon_> where do I set programs to autostart in ubuntu and how do I make it so i dont have to enter a password each time
[12:05] <jrib> !startup > defcon_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:05] <kerik> jrib, thanks alot!
[12:05] <jrib> defcon_: to disable the password, go to system > administration > login window
[12:06] <kerik> jrib, just wonder now why a IM app can have effect on that...but guess that's the mystery remaining ;)
[12:06] <defcon_> jrib, thankyou, jrib I can disable the password per app?
[12:07] <jrib> defcon_: oh, I thought you meant password to login.  To disable a password for an application, you would have to mess with /etc/sudoers.  Don't remember offhand, but check "man sudoers" for the syntax
[12:07] <kerik> jrib, you shouldn't by chance be good with bluetooth as well?
[12:07] <defcon_> jrib, thanks buddy
[12:07] <shawoho> ikonia: I'll download it.. so I can try it tomorrow....
[12:07] <jrib> kerik: nope, don't know anything about it
[12:07] <defcon_> !props jrib
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about props jrib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <anotherjesse> I'm having a horrible issue setting up my mom's ubuntu system with her new Optiquest 19" lcd (Q19wb) ...  it is widescreen, and the box has a built in i810 (technically a 82845g/gl) --- setting to 1440x900 (after updating via 915resolution) gives me a black screen
[12:07] <ryanakca> ctrl:swapcaps switches caps lock with my left ctrl key. How do I make it swap with my right ctrl key?
[12:07] <kerik> jrib, it's cool...thanks bunches mate! been a huge help
[12:07] <Shpook> I've a question, coming from a lowly windows user with no linux experiance. Is it going to be a big pain for me ti install Ubuntu with an ATI video card?
[12:08] <Horscht> can someone help me with a "my computer" setup
[12:08] <usr_rob> fixamsn.sh script, the best i've ever run :) makes the amsn fonts anti-aliased and download the latest tcl/tk
[12:08] <jrib> Horscht: what do you mean?
[12:08] <shawoho> ikonia: Thanks a lot... 'm not an ubuntu user but gNewSense and Blag
[12:08] <ikonia> good luck with it
[12:08] <Horscht> in the "my computer" menu (places -> my computer)
[12:08] <augi01> Shpook: You may find it extreme frustrating, I've heard a lot of negative feedback regarding ATI.
[12:09] <Horscht> i see 2 devices, which are not attached to this laptop
[12:09] <augi01> extremely*
[12:09] <Horscht> in fact, they are non-existant at all
[12:09] <Shpook> Yeah, I've been reading all over the place, and I think it's possible, but beyond my expertise lol.
[12:09] <ror> I don't get sound from java in firefox when listening to music with amarok, but do otherwise
[12:09] <augi01> Shpook: I recommend however booting up the LiveCD and seeing what happens, you never know, it may work flawlessly.
[12:10] <putermech> user name and pass for liveCD ?
[12:10] <Shpook> I get "screen not found"
[12:10] <ash_> Just wanted to say... damn.. wine is fucking amazing
[12:10] <LjL> !language | ash_
[12:10] <ubotu> ash_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:10] <ash_> Sorry :(P
[12:10] <jrib> putermech: "ubuntu" is the username and password is blank (none)
[12:10] <LjL> putermech: "ubuntu" / "", but they shouldn't be asked at all
[12:10] <putermech> TY
[12:10] <MonsieurBon> would it be good, to use reiserFS instead of ext3 for a laptop?
[12:11] <augi01> Shpook: Seems like you've got some work cut out for you if you want to make it work. ;)
[12:11] <Shpook> ive had people tell me to install SuSE because it'll have less problems....but I prefer (k)Ubuntu
[12:11] <Shpook> lol yeah
[12:11] <ryanakca> ctrl:swapcaps switches caps lock with my left ctrl key. How do I make it swap with my right ctrl key?
[12:11] <M_42> can anyone help me with a weird bug
[12:11] <Shpook> Well....I can always go back to onboard video :'(
[12:11] <M_42> I have a java app which slows down my computer with nothing else running
[12:11] <M_42> I have a dual core
[12:11] <M_42> so it shouldn't be an issue
[12:11] <ror> btw does anyone have experience with the latest kernel and logitech mouse? After upgrading I couldn't boot with error "no core pointer"
[12:12] <techbee> did u  check  the  memory  usage  of java app
[12:12] <putermech> ubuntu and blank pass  doesnt work on liveCD
[12:12] <Aresilek> :-O
[12:12] <kitsune> help with Totem in Fiesty! Anyone?
[12:12] <Aresilek> I'm in!
[12:12] <Aresilek> Yeah!
[12:12] <augi01> putermech: What version of Ubuntu are you trying to boot up?
[12:12] <kerik> jrib, hey again....can I ask you one more?
[12:13] <ror> join #gibbon
[12:13] <putermech> 7.04
[12:13] <usr_rob> which one do you guys prefer? Banshee or Rhythmbox ? i have only experience from rhythmbox
[12:13] <jrib> kerik: sure, just ask the channel and if I can help, I will try
[12:13] <n2diy> putermech: log in is case sensitive.
[12:13] <tawooh> what is the linux equivalent to windows' "ctrl-alt-del"??
[12:13] <kerik> jrib, I can now sendto GAIM...but what if I want to sendto bluetooth or something else?
[12:13] <putermech> lower case  ubuntu ?
[12:13] <techbee> y  not u try  mplayer which   has  good  key  bindings
[12:13] <kitsune> usr_rob: banshee is pretty good, but it depends on what you are using it for
[12:13] <ror> usr_rob, I prefer rhythmbox but prefer amarok to boht
[12:13] <Waddledee> Can someone help me with a problem related to H.264?  Specifically, the video quality is poor (blotchy green stuff and bad frame rate); I've tested the video under Windows, and it looks fine there.
[12:13] <Flannel> putermech: Which flavor of Ubuntu is this?
[12:14] <ror> tawooh: to do what? kill processes? or to lock screen?
[12:14] <kitsune> usr_rob: I use Amarok for general music and banshee for my ipod
[12:14] <aubade> Anyone care to recommend a graphical CVS front?
[12:14] <jrib> kerik: description of nautilus-sendto, suggests installing "gnome-bluetooth".  Do you have that?
[12:14] <tawooh> ror: kill processes
[12:14] <usr_rob> kitsune: okey
[12:14] <Pollywog> !partitions | pollywog
[12:14] <kerik> jrib, I have the bluetooth manager and all...
[12:14] <jrib> kerik: but that package is installed?
[12:14] <putermech> xlive i belive
[12:14] <ryanakca> ctrl:swapcaps switches caps lock with my left ctrl key. How do I make it swap with my right ctrl key?
[12:15] <kerik> jrib, hmm..good question...2 sec
[12:15] <johntheunique> any linux consultants in here?
[12:15] <Shpook> Wow...you guys are busy in here...lol
[12:15] <kitsune> help with Totem! Anybody direct me to a more specific server?
[12:15] <johntheunique> does anyone know a linux consultant?
[12:15] <findeton> hi
[12:15] <Flannel> putermech: xlive?  that's not Ubuntu.
[12:15] <usr_rob> kitsune: i need i player that can organize my music from my server, thats all
[12:15] <n2diy> ryanakca: system-preferences-keyboard?
[12:15] <jrib> kitsune: just state the problem
[12:15] <fanch59> johntheunique:  give them some time to answer you
[12:15] <kerik> jrib, you're once again caught it ;)...no it wasn't
[12:15] <kitsune> usr_rob: hmm.. no experience there. sorry
[12:15] <putermech> options are...gnome or Xclient
[12:15] <johntheunique> fanch59: thanks, i will
[12:16] <ryanakca> n2diy: I'm using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg...
[12:16] <putermech> in graphic mode now
[12:16] <Shpook> augi01: thanks for the help though, I'm gonna go try and boot up with onboard video and see what happens.
[12:16] <n2diy> ryanakca: Ok, gl.
[12:16] <augi01> Shpook: Ok. Best of luck.
[12:16] <ingrix> Hey, I'm having some problems with Ubuntu 7.04.  I've installed it, and I don't get any errors during that, but when I try to boot up, it hangs on loading the root partition.  It didn't use to do this with 6.10.  I'm loading with Lilo, not grub, by the way.
[12:16] <ingrix> Any idea what could cause this?
[12:16] <anathematic> i'm installing ubuntu server at the moment and it didn't detext any network interfaces :( waht do i do?
[12:16] <kitsune> jrib: Totem in fiesty asks me to search for the suitable codec (which is already installed). When I finish with the prompt window, it proceeds to only play the sound
[12:17] <kerik> jrib, THANKS BUNCHES! - everything working now thanks to you
[12:17] <Flannel> putermech: What you have on that CD, if it's what you say it is, isn't Ubuntu, and we wont know much, ifany, about it.  You should consult it's documentation.
[12:17] <jrib> kerik: np
[12:17] <usr_rob> kitsune:  maybe rhythmbox will do a good job, i don't own a ipod so banshee is not an option cause it can do the same work as rhythmbox.
[12:17] <putermech> i did
[12:17] <putermech> its the iso
[12:17] <jrib> kitsune: what package is it telling you you need?
[12:17] <fanch59> anathematic: install driver for your network interfaces ?
[12:17] <kitsune> usr_rob: Yeah, i think you are right. rythmbox would probably be best
[12:17] <usr_rob> kitsune: Amarok, will look up that one, isn't that a kde appplication ?
[12:17] <techbee> did u check  that  your root partition in first  1024  block
[12:17] <anathematic> fanch59:  so i'll wait till it's all installed then do it?
[12:18] <tawooh> how do i kill a prgram that will not close??
[12:18] <Waddledee> Can someone help me with a problem related to H.264?  Specifically, the video quality is poor (blotchy green stuff and bad frame rate); I've tested the video under Windows, and it looks fine there.
[12:18] <findeton> i've got problems with my ubuntu feisty: the media players don't show the videos adequately (it looks 'pixelized') and, also, after about 7 seconds i init amarok, it closes without giving any error. This's been happening to me for about a week and i've tried reinstalling the software but it keeps happening
[12:18] <ingrix> tawooh: open up a terminal and type killall <program name>
[12:18] <fanch59> anathematic: that's what i'd do if I were you... but i'm not a specialist...
[12:18] <findeton> i don't know why this happens
[12:18] <kitsune> jrib: gstreamer ffmpeg plugin
[12:18] <n2diy> tawooh: with top
[12:18] <fanch59> anathematic: don't trust my word on this one...
[12:18] <johntheunique> findeton: deinterlace it
[12:18] <kitsune> usr_rob: yeah, but it works in Gnome too
[12:19] <jrib> kitsune: what's the actual package?
[12:19] <kitsune> usr_rob: it's a great app
[12:19] <findeton> johntheunique: it doesn't work
[12:19] <anathematic> fanch59:  haha it's okay i have faith in you <3
[12:19] <anathematic> and if you're wrong...
[12:19] <usr_rob> kitsune: okey, nice to know
[12:19] <fanch59> anathematic: thanks ;)
[12:19] <kitsune> jrib: that is the package. "GStreamer FFMPEG Video Plugin"
[12:19] <tawooh> anyway to get a graphical interface to kill programs, as i do not know the actual name of Frostwire's process
[12:19] <johntheunique> does anyone know a linux desktop consultant?
[12:20] <findeton> please help me
[12:20] <findeton> :/
[12:20] <kitche> tawooh: xkill works
[12:20] <findeton> how can i know if amarok gives any error when it closes?
[12:20] <ror> tawooh, "ps x" command should tell you; but I realise this isn't satisfactory;
[12:20] <johntheunique> findeton: sorry, i only know the basics
[12:20] <jrib> kitsune: what does this command return (use pastebin): apt-cache policy gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-misc
[12:20] <protoloco> Hi, the Question is About XEN Virtualization. when i try to install rhel4, via NFS... i get this.. ERROR: INvalid NFS location give: [Errno 2]  No such file or directory: /var/lib/xen/xennfs.6DetFM/images/xen/vmlinuz'
[12:20] <kitsune> findeton: run amarok from terminal. that should give you an idea of what's going on
[12:20] <putermech> Ubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn
[12:21] <kitsune> jrib: one sec
[12:21] <findeton> kitsune: i did, but nothing
[12:21] <findeton> nothing strange i mean
[12:21] <tawooh> got it guys, thanks a bunch
[12:22] <jrib> !please > Waddledee (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:22] <ryanakca> ctrl:swapcaps switches caps lock with my left ctrl key. How do I make it swap with my right ctrl key?
[12:22] <kitsune> jrib: here http://pastebin.ca/516960
[12:23] <kitche> protoloco: might want to ask that in the xen channel
[12:23] <kitche> protoloco: ##xen
[12:23] <protoloco> kitche, already did  :(
[12:23] <kitsune> findeton: hmm... what is the problem more specifically? Is there anything wrong with amarok?
[12:24] <jrib> kitsune: do you know if it persists after a reboot or logging out and back in?
[12:25] <rafee> Hi! I'm new on ubuntu. How can I know which version of ubuntu is installed on my box?
[12:25] <silent_> another day, another try at xbindkeys... Is anyone familiar with this utility on Feisty?
[12:25] <kitsune> jrib: it persists everytime i close totem
[12:25] <silent_> rafee, uname -a might
[12:25] <jrib> !version > rafee (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:25] <Slart> rafee: run this in the terminal.. "lsb_release -a"
[12:25] <findeton> kitsune
[12:25] <doc_ido> hi. just upgraded 6.1 => 7.04 had some minor problems but most is OK. However I still have a couple issues : cannot find where to set keyboard layout in console, and cannot get more than one console to run (alt-F1 works, no other ttys are enabled.)
[12:25] <kitsune> findeton: yes?
[12:25] <rafee> findeton: not mine
[12:25] <jstone> Howdy All
[12:25] <jrib> kitsune: ok, but how about what I asked?
[12:25] <rafee> findeton: I've got GNU/Linux
[12:25] <jstone> I have a Question convcerning file sharing
[12:26] <silent_> !ask
[12:26] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:26] <findeton> kitsune: one sec i'm going to pastebin...
[12:26] <jawee> I believe I figured out my issue. The Fn+F2 isn't working.
[12:26] <fanch59> rafee: system --> about ubuntu
[12:26] <mh_le> anyone got any idea on how to mount a dir at a specific location?
[12:26] <jawee> So I can't activate my wireless. Any idea?
[12:26] <kitsune> jrib: no. it only asks me about installing the package whenever i start up totem
[12:26] <doc_ido> rafee menu system => about ubuntu => version.
[12:26] <techbee> to  mount  directory
[12:26] <jstone> is there a gui to format hard disks like in xindows
[12:26] <silent_> mh_le mount /asdf /asdf
[12:26] <rafee> fanch59: It is a server I'm connected remotely
[12:26] <techbee> read man pages of mount command
[12:26] <findeton> http://pastebin.ca/516966
[12:27] <kitsune> jrib: sorry, i'm a little tired and I'm slowly losing it ^_^
[12:27] <findeton> that's what happens
[12:27] <jrib> kitsune: so you have rebooted and the next time you start totem it asks you again?
[12:27] <silent_> jstone, gparted
[12:27] <rafee> I really likes this community. A lot of people helping me!
[12:27] <rafee> I really liked this community. A lot of people helping me!
[12:27] <kitsune> jrib: correct
[12:27] <silent_> rafee, yes
[12:27] <doc_ido> y' welcome
[12:27] <findeton> i've found this topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2566738
[12:27] <mh_le> silent_: I was me who wasen't clear. I would like to have done every time I boot
[12:27] <jstone> i have tried gparted but it doesnt seem to want to format my old ntfs volumes
[12:27] <silent_> mh_le man fstab
[12:27] <kitsune> findeton: you got me on that one!
[12:27] <findeton> it says that i have to run asoundconf reset-default-card, but it doesn't work
[12:27] <jawee> So no ideas? This seems like a weird issue
[12:27] <kitche> doc_ido: loadkeys <keyboard layout>
[12:27] <findeton> thanks kitsune
[12:27] <fanch59> rafee: i'm sorry, don't know much about servers on linux... cannot help you here
[12:28] <doc_ido> kitche thx
[12:28] <kitsune> findeton: for what, i don't know. but you are welcome ^_^
[12:28] <silent_> rafee, what server?
[12:28] <kitche> doc_ido: so to use the us layout you would loadkeys us
[12:28] <mh_le> silent_: I didn't get much info.. I have been trying to use this line but so far no luck... /var/run/mysqld /var/spool/postfix/var/run/mysqld none bind 0 0
[12:28] <jstone> silent: gparted seems to dislike my ntfs volumes
[12:28] <doc_ido> kitche and to make it permanent ?
[12:29] <ikonia> mh_le: I suggested not to use bind in the fstab
[12:29] <silent_> did you read the manual?
[12:29] <jrib> kitsune: does it do it if you start totem from the menu and not by clicking on a video?
[12:29] <kitche> doc_ido: add it to .bashrc
[12:29] <silent_> mh_le "man fstab"
[12:29] <ikonia> mh_le: I also suggested your read the how to on help.ubuntu.com
[12:29] <silent_> read up on the columns and their attributes/options
[12:29] <rafee> ubotu solved: "lsb_release -a"
[12:29] <jstone> silent_: is there a man page?
[12:29] <ikonia> yes
[12:30] <silent_> jstone, for what?
[12:30] <doc_ido> kitche the console settings for bash have changed from dapper to feisty ?
[12:30] <kitsune> jrib: sorry. should have specified. It prompts me if I open it from a video clip. I had it working properly with Edgy, and then I upgraded a couple of days ago
[12:30] <jstone> silent: gparted
[12:30] <kitche> doc_ido: or you can add it to ~/.profile if you wish also
[12:30] <Punkunity> I need to know if it is safe for me to delete KDE from my Ubuntu Feisty setup?? I have beryl and a bunch of programs, but I dont use/like KDE
[12:30] <kitche> doc_ido: but that is just for the command line :) for X you have to edit xorg.conf
[12:30] <jrib> kitsune: ok, does it happen with all video clips?  try one that uses a different codec
[12:30] <Punkunity> and how should I do it, through synaptic??
[12:30] <silent_> jstone, no need, its cli
[12:31] <silent_> type gparted in terminal
[12:31] <techbee> if i  m  not worng  fstab entry  is only needed , when i  want to  mount my   dir during boot time
[12:31] <jstone> silent: cli?
[12:31] <silent_> jstone, !cli
[12:31] <doc_ido> kitche yep but it's command line I want to set up
[12:31] <kitche> techbee: well yes and no you can add it to fstab
[12:31] <silent_> does ubotu have that?
[12:31] <silent_> !cli
[12:31] <doc_ido> X works fine :)
[12:31] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:31] <kitche> doc_ido: then edit .bashrc and put loadkeys <keyboard layout>
[12:31] <jstone> silent: i can open gparted ok i just dont know what im doin
[12:31] <techbee> ktiche: ?
[12:31] <kitche> techbee: you just have to put noauto if you don't want it to mount on boot
[12:32] <kitsune> jrib: ok. that narrowed it down. It works with a few other different codecs. I'm trying to play a .rmvb clip
[12:32] <doc_ido> thanks
[12:32] <silent_> jstone, or System > Administration > GNOME Partition Manager
[12:32] <silent_> Editor *
[12:32] <techbee> kitche: yes  , you  are right  , but i  can use  mount command
[12:32] <kitche> doc_ido: bash uses three files for getting it's setup  in the user directory .bashrc .bash_profile and .profile
[12:32] <jrib> kitsune: is this something I can download somewhere?
[12:33] <kitche> techbee: yeah fstab just makes it easier so you don't have to type out the whole thing all the time
[12:33] <MonsieurBon> does anyone know. if I could save some battery by using reiserFS instead of ext3 on my laptop?
[12:33] <jstone> silent: thanks for the help. ill go back to google
[12:33] <techbee> kitche:yup , you are right :)
[12:33] <silent_> jstone, if you don't know what you're doing, learn
[12:33] <ryanakca> ctrl:swapcaps switches caps lock with my left ctrl key. How do I make it swap with my right ctrl key?
[12:33] <doc_ido> kitche will add it in /etc/bash.bashrc
[12:33] <kitsune> jrib: www.realitylapse.com  take your pick from any anime. I reccomend BLEACH ^_^
[12:34] <jstone> silent: thats kinda why im here
[12:34] <rafee> My version of ubuntu is 5.04. Can I remotely upgrade to 7.04?
[12:34] <jrib> kitsune: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/108811 seems related
[12:34] <jstone> silent: i guess my questin is . is gparted my only option?
[12:34] <kitsune> jrib: thanks. I'll do some more research
[12:34] <nuu> !upgrade | rafee
[12:34] <ubotu> rafee: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:34] <ikonia> MonsieurBon: you will not save battery
[12:34] <Skiff> guys silly question but I installed a plugin for xchat, where can I find the perl script file itself, I want to edit it manually ? locate x-sys doesnt work and I dont know how to search the whole system
[12:34] <silent_> jstone, we can answer questions, but if all newbies ask questions about basic features of linux, the channel gets spammed and important issues may slip by, always try the man files first
[12:35] <silent_> eew
[12:35] <MonsieurBon> ikonia, isn't it faster than ext3?
[12:35] <ikonia> MonsieurBon: not all the time, and what does speed have to do with saving battery
[12:35] <jstone> silent: this is basic?    ok.   guess i have a long way to go.    have been windows free since breazy but i guess i missed some basics
[12:36] <silent_> MonsieurBon, use ext3
[12:36] <jrib> kitsune: I'll let you know if it does the same here in 25 minutes (time to finish downloading)
[12:36] <doc_ido> after the upgrade to feisty, alt-f1-f6 doe not bring console shells anymore. Where can I fix this ?
[12:36] <fanch59> silent you're unfair... newbies may find it more reassuring to ask questions to people rather than following tutorials which are not always clear, when they assume that you already know a lot...
[12:36] <MonsieurBon> ikonia, less time for reading means less battery used for it, right?
[12:36] <silent_> jstone, partitioning and mounting partitions is a basic feature of any operating system
[12:36] <ikonia> MonsieurBon: no, as the disk is still spinning
[12:36] <ikonia> MonsieurBon: and the different is milliseconds
[12:37] <kitsune> jrib: whoa! that's unusual for that site.
[12:37] <MonsieurBon> ikonia, ok, thanks
[12:37] <kitsune> jrib: they're usually pretty fast. 10-15 min
[12:37] <jstone> silent: i miss the xp snap in.  ill go see if i can figure it out
[12:37] <jstone> silent: thansk for yalls help
[12:38] <findeton> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/84967 that's the bug
[12:38] <findeton> i think
[12:38] <silent_> fanch59, I realize this. Not long ago I was one of those users asking questions for every single problem, however, with hindsite, I see that I never actually LEARNED anything by asking for solutions... Only through finding the solutions was I able to build knowledge on the OS
[12:39] <johntheunique> silent_: sometimes users aren't trying to learn anything. they just want a problem fixed
[12:39] <silent_> I agree that some man files are unclear, and I welcome questions asking for more specific information, however, if people show up asking, "what is ext3", we have a problem
[12:39] <johntheunique> that's probably more often the case in here
[12:39] <johntheunique> silent_: i'd refer them to a wikipedia page
[12:39] <techbee> silent_:well  said
[12:40] <fanch59> silentt_: i'm still new here, but everything i learnt, i owe it to s.o on this channel who told me what to do in order to solve my problems and telling me at the same time what we were doing and why we were doing it...
[12:40] <silent_> johntheunique, then they will always have that problem and wont have a dynamic solution... they'll just memorize the command/method to fixing it, which may or may not work as the OS changes
[12:40] <fanch59> silent_: i've learnt more in 5 hours with this guy than in 20 reading unclear tutorials which didn't apply to my case without my knowing...
[12:40] <nuu> fanch59: not to be polemic, but you could've probably learned much more on your own using google alone
[12:40] <athi> you there ant-?
[12:41] <ryanakca> ctrl:swapcaps switches caps lock with my left ctrl key. How do I make it swap with my right ctrl key?
[12:41] <johntheunique> silent_: this is true, but that type of user is usually command line shy anyhow
[12:41] <fanch59> nuu: well in this case....nope !
[12:41] <M_42> if I run a java app it hogs all my cpu... and my system becomes unbearably slow.. but I have a dual core
[12:41] <silent_> fanch59, if you learn everything in those man files, and play around with commands, you will learn everything
[12:41] <kitche> M_42: java is slow anyways :)
[12:41] <minerale> if I do the following I get an error: sudo cat somefile > /etc/someconfig     (the pipe is not sudoed, how can I bypass that)
[12:42] <Hellevator> m_42 how much ram do you have?
[12:42] <M_42> well it shouldn't lock up my system if I have an extra cpu to handle that
[12:42] <M_42> though
[12:42] <nuu> minerale: use quotes
[12:42] <techbee> M_42 : can you  check  the memory  usage by  java application
[12:42] <M_42> 2gb
[12:42] <kitche> M_42: and java does use the power from dual core
[12:42] <jrib> M_42: all java apps?
[12:42] <kitche> M_42: I mean does not
[12:42] <M_42> it uses 1 core
[12:42] <M_42> of 2
[12:42] <silent_> johntheunique, unfortunately linux hasn't developed to the point where a user can diagnose and fix any problem through a gui. Those users should install Windows
[12:42] <fanch59> silent_: i'm not saying you cannot learn by yourself.... but sometimes you need the help of someone who tells you stuff step by step to get detoxed from mindow$
[12:42] <johntheunique> silent_: this is true and something that needs work
[12:42] <kitche> M_42: yes java only uses 1 core anyways since it's not designed to use multiple cores
[12:42] <M_42> im stumped
[12:42] <M_42> it uses 300mb
[12:42] <M_42> but I have 2gb
[12:43] <M_42> *_*
[12:43] <M_42> :D
[12:43] <nuu> minerale: sudo "cat somefile > /etc/someconfig"
[12:43] <techbee> M_42:it seems wired
[12:43] <ryanakca> ctrl:swapcaps switches caps lock with my left ctrl key. How do I make it swap with my right ctrl key?
[12:43] <kitche> M_42: but what java application is this anyways
[12:43] <cdehaan> Does anyone know when/if PIdgin will be added to the official Repos?
[12:43] <M_42> wurm online
[12:43] <bruenig> cdehaan, 5 months
[12:43] <jrib> minerale: cat somefile | sudo tee /etc/someconfig
[12:43] <silent_> fanch, i completely agree with you, I just like to see that the user has done some research either through google or man files to find a solution to at least build some background info. This info will help US when we ask them questions to isolate the problem.
[12:43] <tux_wears_a_tux> hi
[12:44] <wb32> hello new to ubuntu and a friend installed need to find out what he installed what is the code for it in a termalnal
[12:44] <cdehaan> bruenig: Are you serious?
[12:44] <tux_wears_a_tux> wats the minimum system requirements for desktop effects?
[12:44] <Hellevator> cdehaan, I know you can get pidgin from www.getdeb.net   not sure about a repo though
[12:44] <bruenig> cdehaan, probably closer to 4 months
[12:44] <kitche> M_42: yeah that will be slow :)
[12:44] <cdehaan> Hellevator: Any idea if this breaks the ubuntu-desktop package?
[12:44] <cdehaan> bruenig: Is it not to be released as an update to gaim?
[12:44] <techbee> M_42:can you tell  any other process  running like X  server , browser
[12:44] <silent_> example, its annoying to have to tell some one how to open a terminal to input commands
[12:44] <cdehaan> bruenig: I ask, because I'm not familiar with how Ubuntu handles these things.
[12:44] <bruenig> third party installs are not the greatest idea
[12:44] <fanch59> silent_: fair enough, i understand that completely... so apparently we agreed from the beginning, but we simply didn't know ;)
[12:44] <bruenig> cdehaan, it will be in the next version 7.10
[12:44] <M_42> well the thing is it slows down my system... should my other core not pick up the slack
[12:44] <astrobill> is there a program which tells system information, like what hardware, etc. installed by default in feisty?
[12:44] <Hellevator> cdehaan. Just installing pidgin won't break anything.  I think uninstalling gaim may break ubuntu-desktop so just leave them both installed
[12:44] <M_42> like windows
[12:44] <M_42> :D
[12:45] <bruenig> they will just say it conflicts with gaim and replaces gaim in the control file which will cause gaim to remove upon install, I don't think it would show up in the update-notifier though
[12:45] <cdehaan> Hellevator: Hmm... I was quite sure the packages conflicted.
[12:45] <bruenig> you would have to install it yourself
[12:45] <bruenig> Hellevator, ubuntu-desktop is nothing
[12:45] <kitche> M_42: yes but since java only uses one core and doesn't even know the other core is there java will just use one core
[12:45] <Hellevator> cdehaan.  Nope. I did it on my laptop and it worked just fine.
[12:46] <cdehaan> Hellevator: OK, good to know.
[12:46] <cdehaan> Hellevator: Thanks :)
[12:46] <bruenig> and he has tried to upgrade since then I am sure
[12:46] <techbee> kitche: cpu  usage is only  factor for slow performance of m/c , i  think  ram plays imp  role
[12:46] <dalyn> hey guys
[12:46] <cdehaan> Maybe I'll just stick with GAIM for now... I switched to Ubuntu to try out it's package management, and I'd rather not garbage updates and such up.
[12:46] <kitche> techbee: same thing java takes up a lot of ram anyways
[12:47] <techbee> kitche:thanks
[12:47] <Moduliz0r> hi
[12:47] <kitche> techbee: a small program can take up about 15 megs alone
[12:47] <dalyn> hey, i just switched to ubuntu, and i was wondering if i can get games such as sims or half life to run on ubuntu?
[12:47] <silent_> fanch59, :P yea, I'm not denying the rights of people to ask questions, I just would like them to have looked into the issue before asking questions like the mentioned, "what is ext3?", when I'll bet thousands of google hits will tell you straight off that ext3 is a filesystem
[12:47] <bruenig> cdehaan, arch package management is superb, you should check that out if you are looking for some really impressive package management
[12:47] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: Depends on your graphics card
[12:47] <jrib> kitsune: alright, same thing happens to me here.  Looks like a bug.  It would be great if you could confirm and comment on the one I linked you to.  If you just want to play the file, mplayer plays it fine here
[12:48] <cdehaan> bruenig: Arch? Do you have any more details on that?
[12:48] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: If you have an ATI card, HL2 will run on a low level, like dxlevel 70, thats how I have to run it
[12:48] <dalyn> moduliz0r: well i tried to put the cd in, but i cant figure out how to run it
[12:48] <jimmicaboolie> HELLO, WORLD!
[12:48] <CWar> howdy
[12:48] <bruenig> cdehaan, just google it, arch linux
[12:48] <kitche> cdehaan: arch is another linux distro join #archlinux or go to archlinux.org to find out more
[12:48] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: Do you have WINE installed?
[12:48] <cdehaan> bruenig: I'm not a packaging guru... I can build RPMs and such, but I mainly switched from Fedora because there's such bulk with RPM+Yum... it's just so slow.
[12:48] <jimmicaboolie> LLLLLLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNUUUUUUUUUUUUUUXXXXXXXXXX
[12:48] <silent_> fanch59, I'm a firm believer that a user should learn the existing software before they progess, as some of the existing software, such as terminal or synaptic may be needed for fixing issues
[12:48] <jimmicaboolie> TUX
[12:48] <jimmicaboolie> TUX
[12:48] <dalyn> moduliz0r: no i do not believe that i have it
[12:48] <kitsune> jrib: thanks for the help. I'll definitely comment and continue using mplayer
[12:49] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: Go into the terminal and type "sudo apt-get install wine"
[12:49] <cdehaan> bruenig: Aah... cool. I will check that out. I really like something mainstream so I can get answers to my problems easily (I am primarily a mac user, after all :))
[12:49] <aoirthoir> http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/337-My-Appologies-to-everybody-not-living-in-a-free-country.html
[12:49] <aoirthoir> later peeps
[12:49] <doc_ido> grrr can't find anything on google :( What service/program is responsible for firing up the bash shell when you do alt-f1 to go back to console mode ?
[12:49] <silent_> dalyn, you may want to enable the repositories from the winehq site first, to get the latest version
[12:49] <fanch59> silent_: you're right... but some people need to be told once that they should google to try to solve their problem, simlpy because they never thought it could help...i'm know many people like this, who'd rather give me (or someone else) a phone call when they forgot to plug their pc...
[12:49] <kitche> doc_ido: bash
[12:49] <doc_ido> I must have lost a package during the upgrade
[12:49] <doc_ido> bash is installed
[12:49] <ror> I can't get xchat to launch links unless I have firefox already running
[12:49] <CWar> i've got a new xubuntu install w/ samba installed ... when i try to copy a directory to it from an xp pc (about 600M), it starts and then i get a "Cannot copy ... The specified network name is no longer available"
[12:49] <kitche> doc_ido: well bash is the program your looking for
[12:50] <dalyn> moduliz0r: how do i get to terminal? i just started ubuntu today ;/
[12:50] <Moduliz0r> ok
[12:50] <fanch59> btw, does anyone know why gaim won't connect to network when network connection is made through rutilt ? (i us the RT73 wireless driver)
[12:50] <doc_ido> I can boot, it fires gdm and xorg, and gnome-terinal works fine
[12:50] <Moduliz0r> Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[12:50] <silent_> fanch59, it's a learning experience, and I agree it takes time
[12:50] <doc_ido> however no way to get a plain n-X console by alt-Fx$
[12:50] <kitche> doc_ido: but check /etc/securetty
[12:50] <kitsune> jrib: i'm also having trouble with the totem video plugin for Firefox on all types of codecs. It will go to the usual black window in forefoxx where it would normally play the video after loading, but it just hangs
[12:50] <dalyn> is terminal like ms-dos?
[12:51] <Moduliz0r> similar
[12:51] <Moduliz0r> but Linux console
[12:51] <dalyn> oh ok
[12:51] <jroes> hi, I am suddenly stuck with a grub> prompt after making a new partition in vista.  is there some way to re-install my bootloader with the 6.10 live cd?
[12:51] <ror> it's more powerful than ms-dos
 moduliz0r: how do i get to terminal? i just started ubuntu today ;/ CLASSIC example... he is trying to install WINE before he even knows what the terminal is
[12:51] <kitsune> jrib: I could use the mplayer plugin as an alternative if I could get it to fill the window
[12:51] <kitche> !grub | jroes
[12:51] <ubotu> jroes: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:51] <doc_ido> /etc/securetty lists tty01...tty60
[12:51] <fanch59> silent_: i personnally find it really interesting to learn how my system works, but it's true that sometimes you need it to work quickly, and then it's probably easyer just to ask...
[12:51] <cdehaan> Where would I view logs about why "Desktop Effects" fails to enable?
[12:51] <CWar> any ideas on the "cannot copy ..." problem w/ samba?
[12:51] <jroes> thanks kitch
[12:51] <kitche> ror: depends what user since dos is mighty powerful
[12:51] <Moduliz0r> silent_: just leave other people alone please
[12:51] <noobsauce> does anyone actually use desktop effects?
[12:51] <jroes> !echo "thanks" | kitch :)
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about echo "thanks" - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <kitche> doc_ido: ok that shouldn't be the problem then
[12:52] <cdehaan> noobsauce: I do :)
[12:52] <silent_> Moduliz0r, no
[12:52] <cdehaan> noobsauce: Again, disclaimer, mac user.
[12:52] <n2diy> cdehaan: /var/logs
[12:52] <ror> kitche, ok I meant the dos *prompt* rather than DOS; and the dos prompt is nerfed, especially in certain versions of windows
[12:52] <qqn661> noobsauce, hopefully not
[12:52] <Moduliz0r> :/
[12:52] <dalyn> it is not letting my type my password
[12:52] <noobsauce> qqn661, why not?
[12:52] <ror> does it even do process control?
[12:52] <noobsauce> is it unstable?
[12:52] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: it is but it doesnt show
[12:52] <jrib> kitsune: using mplayer plugin, can't you right click -> fullscreen?
[12:52] <dalyn> oh heh
[12:52] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: its a security thing
[12:52] <qqn661> noobsauce, it is buggy and problematic. install compiz or beryl instead
[12:52] <cdehaan> n2diy: Any idea which file it would be dumped in?
[12:52] <doc_ido> kitche nope, this is rally weird
[12:52] <techbee> cdehaan:/var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:52] <kitsune> jrib: whoops. nevermind. I forgot I fixed that one yesterday.
[12:52] <cdehaan> techbee: Thank you :)
[12:52] <ror> dalyn, you are typing your password it just doesn't show, not even *s
[12:52] <Ramblin> i think the desktop effects being referred to are beryl and the like
[12:52] <noobsauce> doesn't desktop effect use compiz?
[12:53] <kitsune> jrib: thanks for your help
[12:53] <n2diy> cdehaan: not sure, maybe something related to X?
[12:53] <CWar> together we stand
[12:53] <silent_> Moduliz0r, what the users here don't realize is that Ubuntu is growing... what happens if a year from know 10 000 users are idling this channel all asking 'stupid' questions like "what is terminal"?
[12:53] <qqn661> noobsauce, a modified version of compiz, which doesn't work very well at all
[12:53] <dalyn> oh thank you guys
[12:53] <silent_> dalyn, man linux
[12:53] <noobsauce> hmm
[12:53] <silent_> jk ;P
[12:53] <cdehaan> qqn661: Do you have any idea why they used a modded compiz vs. stock compiz/beryl?
[12:53] <Moduliz0r> silent_: You need to realise that it is "Linux for human beings" not just technically advanced users
[12:53] <techbee> Ramblin:can u  explain  ur problem
[12:53] <noobsauce> i wonder if dell is shipping ubuntu with desktop effects enabled
[12:54] <ror> silent_, "what is terminal" is not stupid, it's pretty perceptive actually
[12:54] <otero> what is everyone using for editing php files?
[12:54] <ror> it at least shows they have been reading before asking
[12:54] <johntheunique> noobsauce: they could since they are customizing the hardware
[12:54] <silent_> yes, 10 000 human beings spamming this channel with ignorance
[12:54] <nickrud> silent_, that question was asked about 1000 users when there were only about 300 idling; the answer is the same: explain
[12:54] <taime1> What does, 'no graphics filter found' mean in open office?
[12:54] <Moduliz0r> Its not ignorance
[12:54] <qqn661> cdehaan, i really don't know who came up with that idea
[12:54] <kitche> otero: just a basic editor
[12:54] <cdehaan> otero: vi :)
[12:54] <CWar> bump ... "cannot copy ... the specified network name is no longer available" ideas?
[12:54] <Ramblin> iam running fine with edgy and beryl and Nvidia
[12:54] <techbee> otero: text editors
[12:54] <Moduliz0r> Its for "human beings" - i.e. not just professionals, everybody has to start somewhere
[12:54] <techbee> otero:vim , emacs
[12:54] <otero> anything that detects errors in php code?
[12:55] <ror> nano is a good basic edittor for inexperienced users; vi is worth learning tho, type vimtutor to start
[12:55] <fanch59> silent_: it may be a stupid question when you know the answer... but when i googled to try to solve my first pb with ubuntu, i found tutorial saying "do this, do that"... but i didn't knwo where, and it took me at least one hour to find where i should type a command line...
[12:55] <techbee> otero: use vim which has syntax highlighting feature
[12:55] <qqn661> otero, emacs, vim
[12:55] <kitche> otero: not really since php is like javascript but can be used to run scripts ont he cli also
[12:55] <cdehaan> otero: I'm not sure but perhaps Bluefish would if you're looking for graphical
[12:55] <qqn661> techbee, emacs also has syn highlighting
[12:55] <dalyn> ok i think it is done
[12:55] <silent_> nickrud, I would be willing to bet money that either this channel had similar traffic due to the hype of the OS initially, and was filled with more experienced users, as most 'newbies' these days get linux because some one said its 'easy'
[12:55] <otero> yea i would like graphical
[12:56] <pliz> Hi All! I have a question about ubuntu feisty. After installation it has been suspending perfectly but after some point it stopped doing it. /va/log/hibernate.log has the following lines in it s2ram: unknown machine, see s2ram(8) and the USuspendRamForce option hibernate: EnsureUSuspendCapable refuses to let us continue. Googlwing for the problem did not help me. Is it a known problem? Can anyone give me a hint?
[12:56] <silent_> fanch, but you found it didn't you?
[12:56] <bruenig> and emacs has the extra benefit of being an embedded operating system
[12:56] <ianm_> otero: maybe see if gedit is enough for you (I use it for ruby coding and no complaints)
[12:56] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: WINE installed did you say?
[12:56] <nickrud> silent_, heh. The quality level of questions now is well above then; I could answer most then, hardly any now :)
[12:56] <silent_> :P, jkjk I think users should ask questions, I support your decision to to research of your own
[12:56] <dalyn> yes i believe so
[12:56] <T`> hi.. anyone know how t make xchat not quit when i press Ctrl + X? thats the shortcut for cut!!
[12:56] <CWar> bump ... "cannot copy... specified network name is no longer avail" .... help, please?
[12:56] <jroes> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows isn't very SATA-friendly :/
[12:56] <Moduliz0r> Ok
[12:57] <ror> gedit is similar to windows notepad; (or kate on kubuntu)
[12:57] <ror> CWar, check your machine is still reachable, just try logging back in
[12:57] <Zara_thrustra> holy crud 1184 people
[12:57] <bruenig> gedit is far better than windows notepad
[12:57] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: is your HL2 CD in the drive?
[12:57] <rafee> Congrats to this community. Docs of ubuntu are very cool!
[12:57] <otero> how do I start vim ?
[12:57] <nickrud> T`, don't you mean ctl-q for quiting xchat?
[12:57] <mwe> gphpedit
[12:57] <otero> just to see how it looks
[12:57] <ror> otero, vimtutor will start it in tutor mode
[12:57] <CWar> ror ... i can access the machine fine ... only when i try copying big files do i get the error
[12:57] <techbee> bruenig:thats for sure
[12:57] <otero> thanks
[12:57] <T`> nickrud, no.. ctrl+X somehow makes it quit here! strange
[12:57] <ror> you might need to sudo apt-get install vim
[12:58] <kitche> T`: you sure your using xchat and not xchat-gnome
[12:58] <ror> CWar, hmm
[12:58] <dalyn> yes
[12:58] <nickrud> T` does XChat on the menu bar have ctl-x as the exit?
[12:58] <techbee> otero:open terminal  and  type vim filename
[12:58] <ror> samba is a bit dodgy for file transfers, if you're transferring from your linux machine I'd recommend using SSH/SCP with a client on the windows machine
[12:58] <T`> nickrud, hmm no. ctrl+Q
[12:58] <bruenig> otero, vim will take a while to learn
[12:58] <korny_unregister> hi
[12:58] <ror> it always seems far more reliable
[12:58] <silent_> oh  god, dalyn is trying to install a directx 9 level game through wine without knowing what drive_c is, without knowing what winecfg is, with a copy of ubuntu he installed TODAY
[12:58] <T`> kitche, i think its xchat
[12:58] <fanch59> silent_:  yes i did.... but i got used to do that already when i was a windows user... i was an "advanced" user... now i'm just a beginner with linux. I still have my old habbits, which can be good at time, but very bad as well... (i need to get mmore impregnated of the linux logic)
[12:58] <Taxman> ok, after allocating 5gb, I can see it's definitely recursing. the error message is cp: cannot create directory `/target/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/.disk: no space left on device. It goes up to as many as 7 ubuntu's and down to one. Not sure why I didn't notice the recursion before
[12:58] <T`> kitche, help shows Xchat 2.8.0
[12:58] <CWar> i've got putty ...
[12:58] <qqn661> korny_unregister, hi
[12:58] <ror> then I'd use putty
[12:59] <Taxman> why would copying a mounted 7.04 cd recurse like that?
[12:59] <gordonjcp> silent_: every learning curve has a thin and pointy end
[12:59] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: Ok, do you have 1 or 2 cd drives?
[12:59] <ror> winSCP is a nice SCP client too
[12:59] <mwe> or winscp
[12:59] <dalyn> 1
[12:59] <qqn661> gordonjcp, not necessarily
[12:59] <dalyn> 2*
[12:59] <korny_unregister> waht system requirements does the ubuntu feisty fawn livecd have?
[12:59] <jroes> hrm
[12:59] <jroes> I want to just get back to the windows bootloader to be honest
[01:00] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: ok its probably automounted, try "cd /media/cdrom0" in the terminal
[01:00] <silent_> gordonjcp, I recognize that learning this OS is not easy, but learning methods, without learning the underlying dynamics of the systems used, will only make bad habits, and will make learning harder
[01:00] <kitche> T`: well xchat-gnome shows that also since it's xchat just with gnome's ui type stuff added to it that's why I asked not sure what version each are at though :(
[01:00] <ror> jroes, fixboot in windows should do that, or fixmbr depending on version
[01:00] <CWar> what do i do in putty to transfer from a winxp share to my xubuntu pc?
[01:00] <mlk> hi
[01:00] <Taxman> korny_unregister: about 256mb ram and a fast enough processor or patience
[01:00] <enema_cow> hey all, could anybody contribute a quick yes or no on whether there's a builtin mechanism to downgrade an upgraded feisty install back down to dapper?
[01:00] <mwe> jroes: fixmbr from the recovery console using the xp boot cd
[01:00] <silent_> method vs theory... regular mathematician vs einstein (hope that works how I saw it)
[01:00] <T`> kitche, it seems to only happen after upgrading to feisty :(
[01:00] <kitche> enema_cow: no
[01:00] <nickrud> enema_cow, no
[01:00] <ror> CWar, if you install winscp it'll be a drag/drop thing
[01:00] <taime1> Does Anyone Know Why I Am Recieving This Error I OpenOffice: 'Graphics filter not found' ?
[01:00] <enema_cow> thanks all
[01:00] <T`> lemme see if i can remove the config files and try it
[01:00] <T`> brb
[01:01] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: Then, type "ls" and do you get a load of file names?
[01:01] <korny_unregister> Taxman: to load the whole livecd to ram or just fast enough to install the system
[01:01] <ror> you'll need to enable write permissions on your samba share though
[01:01] <astrobill> hello, will anyone recommend a low cost, low ink cost, inkjet printer for ubuntu?
[01:01] <ror> I don't mean samba share actually
[01:01] <gordonjcp> silent_: meh
[01:01] <Siph0n> anyone ever attach an xbox controller to their linux computer? i made the usb connector on my xbox controller, and see a howto for xbox 360 controller, but not the old xbox
[01:01] <cdehaan>  Is there a fork of XMMS that's more up to date and recent, or am I making that up?
[01:01] <dalyn> no
[01:01] <gordonjcp> silent_: let him fiddle about and break it a few times
[01:01] <ror> just get winscp, log in to ubuntu then you can drag/drop as you please
[01:01] <Taxman> korny_unregister: it never loads the whole thing, but fast enough to use it and to install from. what processor do you have.
[01:01] <beford> cdehaan, BMP
[01:01] <kitche> astrobill: umm ink on any printer costs why do you think printers are like 25 bukcs now :)
[01:01] <ror> xmms is dead (and thank god)
[01:01] <nickrud> cdehaan, beep-media-player
[01:01] <cdehaan> beford: Thank you much
[01:01] <mlk> what 3d desktop would you suggest, if you were about to use one? best performance & support..
[01:01] <wolf54> during a recent software update i lost my internet connection. and skipped a par of the download or something. now wireless connection isnt working, the device not being found, can anyone help?
[01:02] <bruenig> mlk, #ubuntu-effects
[01:02] <fanch59> enema_cow: do you really want 1186 people to say "i don't know", just to be sure you've been read ?
[01:02] <kitche> ror: well not really just xmms1 is dead
[01:02] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: ok, type "cd /media/cdrom1" and then ls, then do you get a list?
[01:02] <Zara_thrustra> wolf how are you on?
[01:02] <CWar> do i need an ftp server running on my xubuntu box to drag from winscp to it?
[01:02] <enema_cow> fanch59: i got my answer already
[01:02] <astrobill> kitche:  heh, but what about one that works with ubuntu?
[01:02] <wolf54> im using 6.10 disc
[01:02] <techbee> wolf54: what  is error message
[01:02] <kitche> astrobill: hp is good
[01:02] <ror> CWar, no you just need SSHD
[01:02] <mlk> bruenig: thanks
[01:02] <ror> sshd I don't think is on by default in ubuntu
[01:02] <wolf54> no error message, my wireless card just isnt working
[01:02] <aztracker1> personally, I wish the nullsoft guys would just do a winamp port for linux..
[01:02] <korny_unregister> Taxman: i'm thinking about building a silten pc of old hardware. I think i have 700 mhz pentium 3 and 256mb of ram. i hoped it would be enough to load the system to ram and not use any mechanical parts.
[01:02] <dalyn> no
[01:02] <enema_cow> fanch59: apologies in advance if i read your comment wrong...
[01:03] <silent_> gordonjcp, I'm almost ready to suggest that users should mandatorily start using linux at the command line level with a base debian install or somesuch
[01:03] <aztracker1> of course "lamp" is already taken..
[01:03] <johntheunique> the gnome guys seem to think ubuntu isn't ready for the desktop
[01:03] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: Is the cd an icon on the desktop?
[01:03] <astrobill> any hp?  I had problems with an older one.  It never printed right.
[01:03] <johntheunique> or any linux for that matter
[01:03] <ethereality> I had configured my NTFS Windows partition to automatically mount read/writeable, and my external hard drive always automatically mounted read/writeable. I installed the most recent three updates -- one of them involving the linux kernel -- and now neither of them automatically mount, and after I doubleclick on the Windows partition to mount it (/media/disk/Documents and Settings/Owner), it is back to read-only again. What went
[01:03] <ethereality> wrong and what should I do?
[01:03] <qqn661> wolf54, in general, ubuntu + wireless = problems
[01:03] <dalyn> yes, simcity3000
[01:03] <korny_unregister> my english really suks
[01:03] <beford> cdehaan, try http://bmpx.beep-media-player.org/site/BMPx_Homepage
[01:03] <techbee> wolf54:check  it properly , there should be some error msg
[01:03] <lifeisgreat1024> running ubuntu feisty desktop and works great for me :)
[01:03] <Moduliz0r> Hmm
[01:03] <usser> aztracker1: its aol now not nullsoft =
[01:03] <Taxman> korny_unregister: that's enough to run from cd, but you'll have to keep the cd in to do anything with it.
[01:03] <Moduliz0r> Odd
[01:03] <kitche> aztracker1: winamp isn't even being developed anymore really just bug fixes and such since AOL dropped it
[01:03] <lifeisgreat1024> Love the KVM support :)
[01:03] <fanch59> enema_cow: sorry, I didn't mean to be rude, i just thought you were beeing so... btw my command of the english language is rather limited, so i may misinterprete things at times
[01:03] <ror> I'm using wireless wtih no problems but I'm on a RT2500 chipset which has full open linux drivers
[01:03] <silent_> chances are I could solve all of dalyn's WINE issues, but I don't want to, because it wont help him
[01:03] <ethereality> qqn661: only problem i've had with wireless has been that god-forsaken keyring
[01:03] <Moduliz0r> are you sure you are using LS and not IS?
[01:04] <Taxman> if you want a minimal system with no moving parts you want something like damn small linux, korny_unregister
[01:04] <korny_unregister> Taxman: that wouldn't be silent at all
[01:04] <ror> silent_, are you good with WINE? I can't get directplay 8 to work
[01:04] <wolf54> i was using 7.10, lost my internet connection during software update. im using dell e1505 notebook
[01:04] <ror> tried overriding dlls
[01:04] <dalyn> yes ls
[01:04] <dalyn> ok
[01:04] <aztracker1> johntheunique, imo it depends on the deployment wrt readiness... for grandma who only does surfing and email, maybe.. for little timmy who wants to buy a game at a store, and have an easy install, no..
[01:04] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: You sure its not in either of those folders?
[01:04] <aztracker1> kitche, I know.. winamp5 works well, and has a good plugin system..
[01:04] <ethereality> I had configured my NTFS Windows partition to automatically mount read/writeable, and my external hard drive always automatically mounted read/writeable. I installed the most recent three updates -- one of them involving the linux kernel -- and now neither of them automatically mount, and after I doubleclick on the Windows partition to mount it (/media/disk/Documents and Settings/Owner), it is back to read-only again. What went
[01:04] <ethereality> wrong and what should I do?
[01:04] <dalyn> so i type cd /media/cdrom1 then enter, then ls
[01:04] <johntheunique> aztracker1: that's what i think. isn't that the majority market of people with old pcs?
[01:04] <Taxman> korny_unregister: try the livecd and you'll see what I mean. It's not spinning all the time, it will run the current program, but if you need to load a new program it spins up the cd
[01:05] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: yes, after execuring the cd /media/cdrom0 or 1
[01:05] <enema_cow> fanch59: no problem.  it's always nice when people can work out a misinterpretation on an irc channel without it breaking out into flaming :)
[01:05] <techbee> wolf54:open terminal  and type dmsg and check the error msg
[01:05] <Moduliz0r> executing*
[01:05] <aztracker1> johntheunique, not sure... next time my grandmother's pc dies, and needs updating, will try her "slots" game under wine, if that works, she'll be on ubuntu.
[01:05] <johntheunique> aztracker1: i've done that for two friends
[01:05] <wolf54> okay ill try that when i restart, cus im using a live cd now
[01:05] <mwe> techbee: dmesg :)
[01:06] <ror> my mum freaked just at the sight of openoffice; she swore that she hated it and wanted office 97 back on
[01:06] <korny_unregister> Taxman: dsl is a bit too small i think, i'd like to use applications like gaim and firefox. so if i've booted the livecd an started these two applications i coukd remove the cd if i will not start anything else?
[01:06] <johntheunique> aztracker1: i figure the installation service could be worth $200 to them
[01:06] <ror> 97 fer christsakes it's not even compatible with newer MS offices
[01:06] <techbee> Do  any  one try  to  voipcheap  client to  run  under  wine
[01:06] <Zara_thrustra> does yahoo messenger work with wine?
[01:06] <fanch59> enema_cow: i'm not proud enough to pretend i'm always right... (though i am most of the time, actually ;) )
[01:06] <johntheunique> aztracker1: tell me what you think of this ad?
[01:06] <aztracker1> johntheunique, nod... there's usually one or two things that are relatively simple games, both my grandmothers like to play.. but they should run fine on wine.. just untested..
[01:06] <johntheunique> spyware and virii got you down? you could reinstall windows xp only to get overtaken once again. or you could shell out $600 for a computer that will support windows vista? or you could pay me $200 to install ubuntu linux and never worry about spyware or virii again. find out if ubuntu will work for you by scheduling a free consultation.
[01:06] <ror> Zara_thrustra, use GAIM it's better, handles yahoo well
[01:07] <techbee> mwe: thanks
[01:07] <cables> !offtopic | johntheunique
[01:07] <ubotu> johntheunique: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:07] <johntheunique> aztracker1: that's why i'd consult for free
[01:07] <Zara_thrustra> ror: thanks
[01:07] <Taxman> korny_unregister: not sure, I can't recall if you can remove the ubuntu livecd or not
[01:07] <kitche> johntheunique: well considering there is linux spyware out there, and by the way it's starting to grow
[01:07] <dalyn> ok when i click on the icon on the desktop, it takes me to some files on the disk
[01:07] <cables> Should I install the latest kernel update? I don't want to mess up my nVidia restricted driver.
[01:07] <aztracker1> a $600 computer won't support the biggest reason for upgrading to vista (Aero), though the newer nvidia and amd/ati chipsets to decent enough gfx
[01:07] <johntheunique> kitche: i've never run into it
[01:07] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: yeah but thats in the browser, we need to get there in terminal really
[01:07] <ror> cables, the newest kernel messed up my mouse;
[01:08] <kitche> johntheunique: or you don't notice it like you do on windows
[01:08] <dalyn> i click on auto run, and it asks me do i want to run in terminal, display, cancel, or run
[01:08] <ror> how is aero the biggest reason for vista? a bit of transparency is old hat and should be in XP
[01:08] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: thats not how its done
[01:08] <zulema> I have a very strange problem, the CDROM got mounted as /media/hdd instead of /media/cdrom, and I can't umount it, even as root
[01:08] <johntheunique> kitche: it's sure to be a firefox thing
[01:08] <aztracker1> kitche, haven't seen it myself.. just the same, easier to deal with in linux than spyware/adware under xp.
[01:08] <gordonjcp> silent_: yeah, 'cos you never asked silly questions or broke stuff in a silly way, eh?
[01:08] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: Is there an install.exe or something?
[01:08] <Taxman> so any ideas why copying a mounted 7.04 cd recurses and uses all available space and runs out?
[01:08] <fanch59> is OO:08 gmt time ?
[01:08] <gordonjcp> ;-)
[01:08] <gordonjcp> 00:08 BST
[01:08] <bruenig> zulema, you aren't cded into /media/hdd are you?
[01:08] <aztracker1> ror, the eye candy has more than just transparencies...
[01:08] <Moduliz0r> 00:08GMT+0
[01:09] <wolf54> 11:08
[01:09] <aztracker1> non fullscreen gaming runs a bit better too...
[01:09] <kitche> johntheunique: I can install MyWeb toolbar on firefox and guess what it's spyware :)
[01:09] <dalyn> yes in one of the folders
[01:09] <jroes> mwe, ror: thanks, but I can't seem to find fixboot or fixmbr when booting to a command line on my vista dvd...
[01:09] <fanch59> gordonjcp: ty
[01:09] <grubiskillingme> Someon type in the terminal command to edit grub bootloader files - Shart did it last time
[01:09] <zulema> bruenig: all windows using it were closed
[01:09] <johntheunique> kitche: but it's a choice
[01:09] <aztracker1> alpha transparency support via hardware has been in windows since win2k
[01:09] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: ok, right click the install program and select Open with Other application
[01:09] <kitche> johntheunique: umm MyWeb is packaged with some software so it's not choice
[01:09] <bruenig> zulema, in the terminal, when you are trying to umount it, make sure you are not in /media/hdd when you do that, else it will tell you it is busy
[01:09] <silent_> gordonjcp, of course I did, but I usually tried to figure it out on my own... I break things every day
[01:09] <johntheunique> kitche: it's packaged with ubuntu software?
[01:10] <ror> aztracker1, I'm aware of what aero is but it's still pretty feeble compared to the efforts of compiz/beryl
[01:10] <ror> aero is hardly special
[01:10] <aztracker1> kitche what software in linux comes with myweb?
[01:10] <dalyn> ok
[01:10] <zulema> bruenig: it says it's busy
[01:10] <kitche> johntheunique: but then again it's with binary software
[01:10] <CWar> me again... the same "network name no longer available" guy ... winscp did better, but still got a "connection reset by peer"
[01:10] <grubiskillingme> Slart - what was the what was the edit command in grub again?
[01:10] <ethereality> I had configured my NTFS Windows partition to automatically mount read/writeable, and my external hard drive always automatically mounted read/writeable. I installed the most recent three updates -- one of them involving the linux kernel -- and now neither of them automatically mount, and after I doubleclick on the Windows partition to mount it (/media/disk/Documents and Settings/Owner), it is back to read-only again. What went
[01:10] <ethereality> wrong and what should I do?
[01:10] <silent_> I spent 4 hours doing work with xbindkeys last night
[01:10] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: now expand the "Use a custom command" thing
[01:10] <fanch59> ty all, gotta go... c you later folks, good luck with your pcs !
[01:10] <bruenig> zulema, do pwd and paste the output in here
[01:10] <aztracker1> ror, not disagreeing.. just saying that's the biggest reason to upgrade, if at all..
[01:10] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: and in the box, put "wine "
[01:10] <aubade> There any easier way to manage file associations in Gnome?
[01:10] <zulema> bruenig: but lsof doesn't mention anything
[01:10] <ror> Vista has some nice things that XP doesn't, it has a better search tool;
[01:10] <Moduliz0r> without quotation marks
[01:10] <bruenig> zulema, do pwd and paste the output in here
[01:10] <dalyn> moduliz0r: i did
[01:10] <silent_> Moduliz0r, you're still helping dalyn? :P
[01:10] <zulema> bruenig: I'm in /media :P
[01:10] <aztracker1> ror, I like google desktop myself..
[01:10] <korny_unregister> Taxman: okay what should i rather use? i heared that the new ubuntu has the ability to install the proprietary graphicsdrivers within the livecd
[01:10] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: ok now Open
[01:11] <aubade> Well, where are associations defined for Nautilus?
[01:11] <ror> it's weird how everyone disables indexing services in windows then complains that searching is slow
[01:11] <grubiskillingme> What is the command to edit grub bootloader files?
[01:11] <ror> or everyone disables the indexing service then installs google desktop :\
[01:11] <dalyn> moduliz0r: hey it worked :)
[01:11] <bruenig> grubiskillingme, the file is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:11] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: Good
[01:11] <kitche> grubiskillingme: gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:11] <aztracker1> ror, true enough...  gdesktop works better than indexing service..
[01:11] <grubiskillingme> thanks
[01:11] <Taxman> korny_unregister: yeah I think so. what are you trying to do, just no moving parts. But use it for what?
[01:11] <dalyn> moduliz0r: ok, so with games like that, just go to install.exe and open it with wine?
[01:11] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: What windows progams see in C:\ is in your .wine/drive_c folder
[01:11] <johntheunique> aztracker1: is gdesktop available for xp?
[01:12] <nickrud> aubade, the simplest way to change it is right click a file and in the properties dialog select open with. I haven't seen a centralized control for that in a long time
[01:12] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: with most basic ones yes
[01:12] <kitche> aztracker1: do you mean google desktop?
[01:12] <dalyn> oh ok, one more question
[01:12] <bruenig> gdesklets are a joke
[01:12] <aztracker1> johntheunique, gdesktop == google desktop/search
[01:12] <aztracker1> bruenig, don't use them...
[01:12] <dalyn> i need java for something, but when i download it, it dont work ;/
[01:12] <ror> yes, it does work better; especially since indexing seems to be doing something *all the time*
[01:12] <zulema> bruenig: someone suggest doing umount -l /dev/hdd but the man page isn't very clear about what that does...
[01:12] <ror> still, slocate seems to work best
[01:12] <techbee> dalyn: can u tell  error msg
[01:12] <aztracker1> bruenig, I used the rss one for a while, but didn't like it.
[01:12] <kitche> aztracker1: oh that is fun definitely when it publishes all of your hard drive to google :)
[01:12] <silent_> dalyn, you can probably double-click .exes in nautilus to auto-open them in wine :)
[01:12] <aubade> nickrud: Yeah, but was curious if you had to change a list of MIME types. Guess I'll just change 'em as I go along.
[01:13] <korny_unregister> Taxman: just a pc to surf the web an stay online so nice graphics (like 1280x1024 pixels as default) would be nice
[01:13] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: I dont know about java much, so I cant help you there
[01:13] <ryanakca> ctrl:swapcaps switches caps lock with my left ctrl key. How do I make it swap with my right ctrl key?
[01:13] <aztracker1> kitche, lol... and you're worried about cool web search?
[01:13] <aubade> Only other question is if anyone remembers the package name that includes the dictionary Gnome uses. Not seeing anything particular in aptitude.
[01:13] <dalyn> moduliz0r: hok, thanks anyway:)
[01:13] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: ;)
[01:13] <Moduliz0r> If I were to reinstall windows again to my Windows partition, it would mess up my MBR and I'd need to somehow install grub again, wouldn't I?
[01:13] <bruenig> zulema, here is basically what I would do, make sure that hitting the button doesn't work, then make sure I am not in the same directory and do umount /dev/hdd, then see if maybe eject /dev/hdd will work
[01:13] <kitche> aztracker1: cool web search is different then MyWeb, but anyways I don't install any junk on my computre that I don't use anyways
[01:13] <ror> anyone else get the CRAP scared out of them by "GOOGLE WEB HISTORY"
[01:13] <silent_> Moduliz0r, I can help you reinstall grub if you need
[01:14] <dalyn> i partitioned my hard drive :)
[01:14] <ror> "search EVERY PAGE YOU'VE EVER LOOKED AT!" and that's supposed to be a GOOD THING?
[01:14] <aztracker1> kitche, me either... also, iirc it doesn't publish your hd indexes to google.
[01:14] <aubade> Nevermind, it was gnome-utils.
[01:14] <bruenig> !caps | ror
[01:14] <silent_> dalyn, good stuff, did you use gparted?
[01:14] <Moduliz0r> silent_: Thought so, Windows will install its lame one
[01:14] <ror> those caps were entirely neccessary
[01:14] <ubotu> ror: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:14] <Taxman> korny_unregister: yeah, I'm not sure. sorry
[01:14] <Moduliz0r> ror: I get scared by it too
[01:14] <dalyn> slient_: gparted? i did 50/50
[01:14] <silent_> Moduliz0r it took me a while to figure it out on my own before, but I can help you if you need it
[01:14] <korny_unregister> Taxman: okay thanks.
[01:14] <ror> wow, typing in caps certainly pokes admins o0
[01:14] <silent_> you'll kneed a knoppix or xubuntu desktop cd available though
[01:14] <Moduliz0r> silent_: No need, I'm not doing it right now anyway, I'll be back before I do
[01:14] <bruenig> ROR< IF YOU DIDN"T LOOK AT SO MUCH PORN IT WOULDN"T BE A PROBLEM
[01:15] <silent_> ubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu*
[01:15] <dalyn> what do i use to open .bin files?
[01:15] <ror> because of course it's porn I'm worried about. Nothing to do with google knowing everything about me, then passing that over to their doubleclick department
[01:15] <bruenig> dalyn, .bin as in a binary or .bin as in a disk image
[01:15] <Moduliz0r> I have a Ubuntu Studio 7.04 disc, 2 Ubuntu 7.04 discs and a load of 6.10 ones
[01:15] <aztracker1> porn isn't a problem, just give your kids & wife their own computers.
[01:15] <ror> who needs tracking cookies when people volounteer all the info you need
[01:15] <korny_unregister> Can i turn off my harddisk?
[01:15] <ethereality> I had configured my NTFS Windows partition to automatically mount read/writeable, and my external hard drive always automatically mounted read/writeable. I installed the most recent three updates -- one of them involving the linux kernel -- and now neither of them automatically mount, and after I doubleclick on the Windows partition to mount it (/media/disk/Documents and Settings/Owner), it is back to read-only again. What went
[01:15] <ethereality> wrong and what should I do?
[01:15] <ferret_0567> I have another Linux distro on the first partition of the first drive (sda1), and I am making room for Ubuntu, and the only choice I have is for the Ubuntu partition to be on sda2. Can Ubuntu boot from sda2 when the first partition has the "boot" flag?
[01:16] <Siph0n> how do i see a list of usb devices connected to my computer? and see which codecs they are using? or if they are working properly?
[01:16] <larson9999> hmmm, applieds updates and now my machine gets hung on the fsck on bootup
[01:16] <silent_> aztracker1, or just create a script somewhere to mount it off a different partition ;P
[01:16] <kitche> ferret_0567: grub gets installed to the MBR anyways
[01:16] <pequatre> hey guys
[01:16] <dalyn> so how do i run .bin files?
[01:16] <Moduliz0r> hi
[01:16] <bruenig> ferret_0567, just make sure wherever grub is looking is configured right
[01:16] <ferret_0567> Does that mean Ubuntu will boot?
[01:16] <korny_unregister> ferret_0567 grun will do it =)
[01:16] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: is it a Linux .bin?
[01:16] <ferret_0567> ok
[01:16] <ferret_0567> thanks
[01:16] <bruenig> dalyn, .bin as in a binary or .bin as in a disk image
[01:16] <dalyn> yes
[01:16] <aztracker1> silent_, my bios has a boot option to choose which hd to boot from.. ;)
[01:16] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: is it the java setup?
[01:16] <shawn_selig29> hi guys
[01:16] <dalyn> yes :P
[01:17] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: get to it on the terminal
[01:17] <bruenig> hmm, a binary then
[01:17] <MISTERTibbs> yoyo
[01:17] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: if its on the desktop it will be in /home/yourname/Desktop
[01:17] <qqn661> shawn_selig29, hi
[01:17] <korny_unregister> Okay i have a simple question: Can i turn off my harddrive?
[01:17] <ror> chmod foo.bin then ./foo.bin
[01:17] <silent_> ugh... I havent slept for 31 hours... rough
[01:17] <ror> will execute the file
[01:17] <bruenig> dalyn, java is in the repositories, better to get it there
[01:17] <ror> err, chmod +x foo.bin
[01:17] <Moduliz0r> chmod a+x file.bin first
[01:17] <qqn661> silent_, time to go to sleep
[01:17] <shawn_selig29> i'm thing baout installing ubuntu on all 4 of my pc's....but i got a question... does it run faster then windows?
[01:17] <qqn661> seriously
[01:18] <silent_> qqn661, I need to aptitude -purge insomnia
[01:18] <silent_> ;P
[01:18] <ror> shawn_selig29, depends the task; it's pretty nifty though
[01:18] <Moduliz0r> shawn_selig29: Yes, on most systems
[01:18] <qqn661> shawn_selig29, it depends on billions of things
[01:18] <Moduliz0r> shawn_selig29: Well it does for me
[01:18] <dalyn> i feel like an idiot, but where is resportories?
[01:18] <silent_> they are on the intarbutt
[01:18] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: why?
[01:18] <ror> linux is easier to maintain, it doesn't suffer after a few years of having junk installed like windows does
[01:18] <pequatre> does anyone know how to bind certain protocols to some apps in firefox. for instance when clicking on a "Skype" link in firefox i get an error message saying no protocol is associated with the "skype://" url's. do you know where you set that ?
[01:18] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: im not sure >.<
[01:18] <dalyn> cause somebody said i could get it from their :/
[01:19] <Moduliz0r> some sources.list file
[01:19] <grndslm> dalyn: yes you can
[01:19] <ror> just reinstalled my parents windows; it went from being really slow to really fast just because there were 3 years of installed rubbish left in the registry/services/startup before
[01:19] <grndslm> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:19] <qqn661> dalyn, they are internet servers
[01:19] <grndslm> dalyn: ^
[01:19] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: did you manage to run the bin file or do you need help with it?
[01:19] <dalyn> grndslm: how do i get  repositories
[01:19] <silent_> dalyn, I really think you should look into your current OS before you start fooling around/installing new stuff
[01:19] <silent_> you should know what a repository is before you install anything via apt
[01:19] <Moduliz0r> yeah I agree with that
[01:19] <Moduliz0r> Or
[01:19] <silent_> just my $0.02
[01:20] <ror> use synaptic for a good intermediate step
[01:20] <Moduliz0r> use Synaptic, its easier
[01:20] <Moduliz0r> yeah
[01:20] <grndslm> nah... sudo nano is way more fun
[01:20] <astomper> dalyn: goto system-admin-synaptic
[01:20] <underwatercow> join #c++
[01:20] <nickrud> eh, dalyn have fun, breaking things is a fine way to learn what can be broken :)
[01:20] <silent_> grndslm, use 'sudo su'... live life on the edge
[01:21] <ianm_> nickrud: so is reading this channel :D
[01:21] <Hellevator> nickrud, and how to fix it. If you're lucky.
[01:21] <Hajiki> hey im trying to change some Eclipse settings, like the the splash and the icons. But i cant find the Eclipse Splash Screen, can you help me???
[01:21] <qqn661> underwatercow, cout << "\";
[01:21] <grndslm> silent_:  i use sudo -s...prolly about the same
[01:21] <underwatercow> lol
[01:21] <qqn661> ;)
[01:21] <astomper> dalyn: then under the settings menu you can enable them
[01:21] <underwatercow> qqn661: I noticed I missed that
[01:21] <Mutantx> Is there a way to show/hide applications or mounting a share folder depending on what group the user belongs to?
[01:21] <Hellevator> Hajiki, did you install eclipse manually or from the repository
[01:21] <nickrud> ianm_, Hellevator I broke many things many times :0
[01:21] <silent_> or just enable a password and login for root....
[01:21] <silent_> that's how pros roll
[01:21] <ianm_> nickrud: me too, especially back on slackware heh!
[01:22] <astomper> How do I change my root password?
[01:22] <ianm_> nickrud: with apt it's harder to break, easier to fix!
[01:22] <Hajiki> Hellevator: from the repository
[01:22] <qqn661> ianm_, i'm downloading that 3gb monster as we speak
[01:22] <ror> astomper, sudo passwd root
[01:22] <Taxman> what are the parameters to dd to pull an iso image file off of a 7.04 disc?
[01:22] <silent_> i wouldnt advise it... but 'sudo passwd root'
[01:22] <nickrud> hah, slack is for slackers: the pre fork linux from scratch, that's a back breaker
[01:22] <astomper> thx ror
[01:22] <ianm_> qqn661: slack?? why
[01:22] <ror> but why would you want to? root isn't even set on ubuntu
[01:22] <grndslm> is this a good enough sources.list:  http://pastebin.ca/517091 ???  dalyn.... your sources.list should look something like this
[01:22] <ror> it's designed to be maintained via sudo
[01:22] <ror> just take off the password prompt for sudo
[01:22] <Moduliz0r> guys take a look here: http://user.pixplanet.net/1/Funny/woman.jpg
[01:22] <^BiplanO^> hi all
[01:22] <kritzstapf> astomper: why do you need to change your root  password?
[01:22] <underwatercow> can someone help me to install a program using configure and make? I have never had much success... when I run make, it says something about "install-recursive"
[01:22] <kitche> nickrud: slackware is the oldest distro
[01:22] <qqn661> ianm_, because i'm about to install it?
[01:22] <ferret_0567> Do some BIOS not like 4 primary partitions?
[01:22] <^BiplanO^> anyone testing gutsy and using amsn?
[01:23] <ianm_> qqn661: yeah I figured, and the full question was, Why would you want to use slackware? :)
[01:23] <nickrud> kitche, I know, I ran it for a bit, until I knew enough to run debian reliably
[01:23] <cables> ferret_0567, you simply can't have more than 4 primary partitions.
[01:23] <ferret_0567> oh
[01:23] <silent_> underwatercow, the software isn't available in packages?
[01:23] <ferret_0567> ok
[01:23] <astomper> I set it as 1 when I installed, easy to remember
[01:23] <ror> slackware was the best distro a couple of years ago
[01:23] <qqn661> ianm_, i just want to try slackware 11
[01:23] <Taxman> underwatercow: did you read the readme's? They ususually tell you the make targets
[01:23] <ror> but it's just not got the slickness it used to
[01:23] <ferret_0567> 4 primary partitions is fine for me
[01:23] <astomper> I set it as 1 when I installed, easy to remember kritzstapf
[01:23] <nickrud> anyway, it's fun to learn, and it's only software
[01:23] <ferret_0567> I don't need any more
[01:23] <nickrud> break away, I say
[01:23] <kritzstapf> astomper: i dont even know the root password of my machine
[01:23] <kitche> nickrud: yeah it's all about preference in the free software world
[01:24] <Moduliz0r> ugh, im really tired but I ARE NOT going to bed
[01:24] <ferret_0567> If I needed more, I'd delete /home and create a extended partition in it's place
[01:24] <silent_> nickrud, If I had a system without important data on it, I'd be a little more careless and probably learn a lot :P
[01:24] <ror> astomper, ubuntu shouldn't set root password when it installs
[01:24] <Moduliz0r> I broke the swingball set :|
[01:24] <dantheredbomb> Moduliz0r - was that the correct answer?
[01:24] <ianm_> Moduliz0r: and we am not going to correct your english
[01:24] <astomper> umm... I meant to change the main users passwd
[01:24] <silent_> astomper, I advise you to not enable root password
[01:24] <Moduliz0r> lol
[01:24] <silent_> but if you have to, 'sudo passwd root'
[01:24] <Moduliz0r> I broke the swingball set by hitting it too hard
[01:25] <cables> astomper, there is no main user... do you mean YOUR user?
[01:25] <Moduliz0r> I was having a really fast paced game
[01:25] <cables> astomper, your user is not root.
[01:25] <zero> hi can i get some help of php and sendmail program that is supposed to be installed on my computer
[01:25] <Moduliz0r> and then
[01:25] <Moduliz0r> the ball flew off into the hedge somewhere
[01:25] <zero> i user of ubuntu feisty
[01:25] <astomper> cables, yeah, my password
[01:25] <silent_> I made my hostname Linux... how bland is that?
[01:25] <Hellevator> Hajiki, I know eclipse installs in /usr/lib/eclipse/  you might try digging around in that folder and see if you can find anything
[01:25] <zero> im*
[01:25] <ianm_> qqn661: mm masochist?  have fun
[01:25] <ror> astomper, then just use passwd username
[01:25] <Moduliz0r> silent_: very
[01:25] <underwatercow> silent_, Taxman: I followed the directions in the readme and it doesn't work
[01:25] <Moduliz0r> silent_: naming it computer would even more distasteful
[01:26] <astomper> ror, ok can I disable root pass?
[01:26] <adaptr> no
[01:26] <cables> astomper, if you want to do it through a GUI, use System>Administration>Users and Groups
[01:26] <Hajiki> Hellevator: thanks a lot
[01:26] <silent_> Moduliz0r, It will be done
[01:26] <Moduliz0r> silent: lol
[01:26] <silent_> Computer it is
[01:26] <zero> help
[01:26] <zero> help!
[01:26] <Moduliz0r> Now I need to think of a rediculous hostname
[01:26] <Moduliz0r> My one is actually called moduliz0r atm
[01:26] <ror> Moduliz0r, I name mine after philosophers, I have descartes, aristotle, socrates
[01:26] <zero> how can i install a sendmail server?, im trying to send mails with php!
[01:26] <Moduliz0r> lo
[01:26] <Taxman> underwatercow: usually when you have makefiles and stuff like that they need to be ported for your distro. Find a deb that's already ported and your life will be easier
[01:26] <Moduliz0r> l
[01:26] <rafee> What is gksu?
[01:27] <zero> how can i install a sendmail server?, im trying to send mails with php!
[01:27] <ror> for hostnames the trick is to pick a theme
[01:27] <Moduliz0r> I really need to start thinking of good hostnames
[01:27] <ror> try colours, capitols
[01:27] <kitche> zero: sudo apt-get install sendmail
[01:27] <ror> anything
[01:27] <Moduliz0r> I want something rediculous
[01:27] <kitche> !repeat | zero
[01:27] <ubotu> zero: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:27] <underwatercow> Taxman: lol... I'll try... one sec
[01:27] <rio_> Moduliz0r: just use the name of the simpsons-kids or sth :)
[01:27] <Moduliz0r> bart?
[01:27] <kitche> rafee: graphical sudo pretty much
[01:27] <rio_> maggy!
[01:27] <Moduliz0r> XD
[01:27] <Moduliz0r> bart it is
[01:27] <rio_> homer
[01:27] <rafee> kitche: thanks
[01:28] <dantheredbomb> Use dog food brands
[01:28] <rio_> Moduliz0r: or moe would be nice too
[01:28] <underwatercow> Taxman: what I'm actually trying to do is get a hearts game other than hearts gnome... my dad doesn't like how it requires so much clicking and there doesn't seem to be an option to change it
[01:28] <Moduliz0r> It is set with the Network Settings>General right?
[01:28] <dantheredbomb> Kibbles_n_bits, Purina, etc...
[01:28] <zero> kitche: how can integret it with php?, do i have to configure something?
[01:28] <cheeseboy> wats gui app for setting up network/internet?
[01:28] <Moduliz0r> no, im naming it phillip
[01:28] <ror> gnome-network-manager
[01:28] <zero> ubotu: ok... sorry
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok... sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <rio_> Moduliz0r: dont know the gui-way, its in /etc/hostname i think
[01:29] <kitche> zero: just have to use the mail() function
[01:29] <Taxman> underwatercow: look for hearts games that are available for Ubuntu. search in synaptic
[01:29] <zero> kitche: ok, i'll try it, thx
[01:29] <underwatercow> Taxman: I did and that was the only one I found
[01:29] <underwatercow> Taxman: that's why I was trying to download another from the net
[01:29] <Moduliz0r> brb - reboot time
[01:29] <Taxman> well you'll still need one that's already ported for Ubuntu
[01:30] <Taxman> unless you want to port it or get someone to port it for you
[01:30] <kitche> Taxman: umm if it's linux compatible it will work in ubuntu
[01:30] <Moduliz0r> Im logged in with phillip!
[01:30] <Taxman> kitche: in theory yes, but if the make is failing, not necessarily
[01:31] <pirothezero> does anyone hot swap sata drives in ubuntu or linux ?
[01:31] <Moduliz0r> now im going to tell my friends im playing with phillip :D
[01:31] <Moduliz0r> their responses... lol
[01:31] <fogwar> bayles
[01:32] <ryanakca> ctrl:swapcaps switches caps lock with my left ctrl key. How do I make it swap with my right ctrl key?
[01:32] <pietro10> Hi again
[01:33] <pietro10> Does anyone here know how to get the iMac built-in mic to work?
[01:33] <groove> anyone know where network-manager-gnome stores network details?
[01:33] <Zelian> hi everyone!
[01:33] <ubuntu-rocks> anyone here got ssl working with feisty?
[01:34] <kitche> Taxman: port means redoing the code to make it work so you actually said it wrong so I technially fixed what you said
[01:34] <Zelian> can someone help me with a grub error i get while booting?
[01:34] <dru> This disc contains a "UDF" file system and requires an operating system
[01:34] <dru> that supports the ISO-13346 "UDF" file system specification.
[01:34] <pietro10> What is the error Zelian?
[01:34] <dru> someone help?
[01:34] <Siph0n> i see a program , but cant run it..... it says "iprc_tx: command not found"
[01:34] <pietro10> oh boy
[01:35] <pietro10> I don't know
[01:35] <happyponcho> Are there any other viideoe editors except Cinelerra and Jahshaka.
[01:35] <pietro10> Siph0n: search for it in Synaptic
[01:35] <techbee> good night
[01:35] <techbee> :)
[01:35] <pietro10> Kino
[01:35] <Siph0n> i also try to do ./iprc_tx and i get cannot execute bianry file
[01:35] <Zelian> pietro10: whenever i boot i got "grub loading stage 1.5. Please wait"
[01:35] <Siph0n> this program isnt in synaptic...
[01:35] <Zelian> pietro10: and it just hangs there
[01:35] <pietro10> OK, one at a time
[01:35] <devil> how can i get ubuntu to play dvds i burnt on it
[01:35] <zero> kitche: do i have to run sendmail, or i just use mail()
[01:35] <pietro10> Zelian: ask the grub people (try #grub)
[01:35] <happyponcho> Kino isn't eexactly on par with those two, lacks a lot of functionality.
[01:36] <pietro10> Siph0n: I don't know then
[01:36] <Zelian> pietro10: k, thanks
[01:36] <nickrud> groove, it keeps at least some of it in apps/system/networking (access it with gconf-editor)
[01:36] <zero> kitche: because it did not seems to work
[01:36] <fogwar> hi, noob question, but how do i set file extentions? like .mp3 to play from realplayer, etc
[01:36] <pietro10> devil: you need libdvdnav, libdvdplay, and libdvdread
[01:36] <groove> nickrud: i've done a gconf-tool --dump and can find any of the settings
[01:36] <kitche> zero: read the php docs on their site for the mail function
[01:36] <pietro10> haappyponcho: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_editing_software
[01:36] <kitche> zero: and sendmail needs to be running
[01:37] <pietro10> There is one more and I don't remember which one it was
[01:37] <devil> it isent detecting a dvd
[01:37] <pietro10> Oh yeah it was LiVES
[01:37] <pietro10> Oh yeah it was LiVES
[01:37] <pietro10> devil: do you have a DVD drive?
[01:37] <zero> kitche: i just run it     "sendmail"    over the bash
[01:37] <nickrud> groove, a couple of wireless networks I've defined are in there; network-manager is black magic for me at the moment
[01:37] <taime1> Does Anyone Know Why I Am Recieving This Error In OpenOffice: 'Graphics filter not found' ?
[01:37] <kitche> zero: start the init script sudo /etc/init.d/sendmail start
[01:37] <devil> it detects the dvd intill i burn something on it so yes
[01:38] <pietro10> Did you try ejecting the DVD then putting it back in?
[01:38] <pietro10> happyponcho: did you see LiVES?
[01:38] <devil> yep
[01:39] <pietro10> ok then it must be a hardware problem
[01:39] <pietro10> happyponcho: I also don't know about CinePaint's capabilities
[01:39] <groove> nickrud: actually, i can't find /apps/system at all ...
[01:39] <groove> this is under feisty
[01:40] <nickrud> groove, sorry, system is a top level tree, drop the app (I type that from muscle memory, I guess)
[01:41] <pietro10> Does anyone know how to get the mic in iMac working?
[01:41] <devil> so anyone know how i can get my dvd burner to read the disks it burns
[01:41] <groove> nickrud: no /system/networking either
[01:41] <pietro10> I still think that's a hardware problem if your DVD burner can't leave burn mode
[01:41] <pietro10> Did you try rebooting?
[01:42] <nickrud> groove, maybe it's only there because I defined some wireless networks ...
[01:42] <fogwar> nickrud: hey man not to bother, but i'm trying to get all my .mp3 files to play thru realplayer-- how do i set my file extentions?
[01:42] <groove> i have networks defined
[01:42] <devil> i could but it reads pressed dvds fine
[01:42] <groove> in fact, the weird thing is i have two network-manager icons up the top
[01:42] <pietro10> ok so then it is either a misburnt DVD or a problem with your DVD label
[01:42] <devil> and blank ones
[01:42] <nickrud> fogwar, I'd try right clicking an mp3 file, selecting the open with tab, and setting it there
[01:42] <groove> and each one displays different networks
[01:43] <devil> dvd lable?
[01:43] <fogwar> nickrud: yeah, but it doesnt set all mp3s that way
[01:43] <jessica> hey everyone i was wondering if its possible to download photoshop on an ubuntu computer?
[01:43] <groove> one shows networks i defined before the upgrade to feisty, and one show networks i defined after
[01:43] <ComputinChuck> anyone know how to take advantage of a pci express graphics card?  i've got an nvidia card on pci express but ubuntu's using the agp drivers
[01:43] <nickrud> fogwar, select properties at the bottom after right clicking (sorry, left that step out)
[01:44] <kitche> ComputinChuck: you sure it's agp drivers since agpart is needed
[01:44] <RampageAI> Maybe ndiswrapper the pci-e drivers if there is a Windows version.  I don't know if that works in Ubuntu.
[01:44] <masterloki> !paste
[01:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:44] <fogwar> nickrud: badass.. now one last question i know its gonna kill ya but what about these damn mma'
[01:44] <nickrud> groove, I'm thinking about ditching network manager for a while. I don't understand it, and don't have the inclination to learn
[01:44] <fogwar> nickrud: wma files, and how do i get them to run, esp in firefox
[01:44] <ComputinChuck> kitche, the agpgart module is being used by the nvidia module
[01:45] <nickrud> !restricted | fogwar
[01:45] <ubotu> fogwar: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:45] <kitche> ComputinChuck: well apggart is needed for the nvidia module
[01:45] <ComputinChuck> hmm
[01:45] <kitche> ComputinChuck: even if it's pci express
[01:45] <pietro10> ubotu: will that help me with my problem with my iMac mic?
[01:45] <devil> could my dvd problems be from gnomebaker? ive never had a problem with it before
[01:45] <pietro10> never mind ubotu
[01:45] <pietro10> devil: I'm not really sure anymore
[01:45] <kitche> ComputinChuck: every computer has a agp bus even if they don't have a slot for agp
[01:46] <PriceChild> pietro10, ubotu is a bot ;)
[01:46] <groove> nickrud: what will you use to change networks then?
[01:46] <nickrud> fogwar, there are better methods of playing mp3's, that page will help with that an just about all media
[01:46] <ComputinChuck> kitche, why is that?
[01:46] <nickrud> groove, I used iwconfig and scripts a couple years ago, I might dust that off. I just started using a laptop again
[01:47] <ShpxLbh_uk> hello, I'v got question, when I will delete etc/fstab, after restart, will ubuntu recovery and mount my partitions ?
[01:47] <taime1> Im sick of people always saying, "use free formats" anyone who has ever used a computer has paid enough royalties to M$ for a lifetime. i say enjoy restricted formats, God knows you've paid for it
[01:47] <KevinOman> hello im trying to make a program start when I start the computer
[01:47] <pietro10> NO.
[01:47] <nickrud> groove, also I used something called wifi-radar, it's still around but I haven't tried it recently
[01:47] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, no
[01:47] <Pelo> KevinOman,   menu > system > prefs > session
[01:47] <pietro10> what he said
[01:48] <groove> nickrud, well thanks for your help anyway
[01:48] <KevinOman> to start the program manually I type webcam-server in the command line
[01:48] <tapas> KevinOman: or have a look at the init scripts
[01:48] <nickrud> groove, I was kinda hoping you'd end up showing me :)
[01:48] <pietro10> enter webcam-server in the command section
[01:48] <KevinOman> pelo I added a new session with the command of webcam-server, but when I bootup its gone
[01:48] <Pelo> taime1, mp3 is owned by RCA Thomson,  MS doesn'T get a dime,  in fact they've had to pay some
[01:48] <pietro10> So that Command reads "webcam-server"
[01:48] <tapas> KevinOman: the tip Pelo gave you will start the program when you login, not nessecrily when you start the computer..
[01:48] <ShpxLbh_uk> nickrud: so what I can do to mount my partitions? because I edited my fstab file by nano and something was broken, and after restrt I have not any partitions ntfs
[01:48] <pietro10> werid
[01:48] <KevinOman> pietro10:  I do but when I login its gone
[01:49] <taime1> Pelo, i see what you are saying, but when i purchase windows, it plays mp3s which means the royalty was covered :)
[01:49] <pietro10> OK, Kevin, go to your terminal and type "which webcam-server" and hit ENTER
[01:49] <pietro10> what does it say?
[01:49] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, post the contents of /etc/fstab on paste.ubuntu-nl.org , along with the output of sudo fdisk -l
[01:49] <Pelo> KevinOman, it's a bit tricky since they added the "save this session" stuff ,  try adding your prog and saving from the 3rd tab
[01:49] <PriceChild> taime1, windows doesn't play mp3s by default ;)
[01:49] <rafee> I'm trying to update ubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 on server. I'm getting error with do-release-upgrade
[01:49] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, I'll help you get that back
[01:49] <groove> nickrud: main problem i'm facing is that i can't see where it stores the settings
[01:49] <kitche> ComputinChuck: the onboard video actually uses agpgart to work correctly in linux at least that's what I got from wikipedia but I know if you turn off the agpgart module with sudo rmmod agpgart the nvidia module might act funny
[01:49] <rafee> Can anyone help-me with this upgrade?
[01:49] <KevinOman> pelo kevin@ubuntu:~$ which webcam-server
[01:49] <KevinOman> /usr/bin/webcam-server
[01:49] <KevinOman> kevin@ubuntu:~$
[01:49] <pietro10> Ubuntu was notorious for update problems
[01:50] <pietro10> Ok, then just type /usr/bin/webcam-server in the Command section
[01:50] <pietro10> Tell us what happens then
[01:50] <KevinOman> ok :)
[01:50] <taime1> PriceChild: funny, i dont remember being charged to implement that feature in windows, so why in ubuntu?
[01:50] <RampageAI> Can anyone offer an opinion on how well/poorly Ubuntu will run on a P4 1.6Ghz with 512mb RAM?
[01:50] <ShpxLbh_uk> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22999/
[01:50] <PriceChild> taime1, you would have had to download the codecs at some point even if you didnt' know it.
[01:50] <Pelo> KevinOman, in the session thingy, just put the command line you use to start the webcam
[01:51] <taime1> PriceChild: thats my point... the format was free...
[01:51] <KevinOman> pelo , tried that but after I log back in its gone
[01:51] <Pelo> KevinOman,  you do understand I am giving you gui instructions, not cli ones , if you want to do it in cli    cd ~/.config/autostart     copy one on he files there and edit it
[01:51] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, and you have *no* /etc/fstab at all?
[01:51] <taime1> I can still appreciate openformats. I wish there was a file sharing network that only shared openformats, that would be awesome
[01:51] <fogwar> nickrud: hey, when i do  that, do i need to use a certain program to play the wma files after i installed?
[01:52] <pietro10> Did you try doing the absolute path yet?
[01:52] <KevinOman> I just put /usr/bin/webcam-server as the comand
[01:52] <pietro10> pelo is giving you the relative path
[01:52] <nickrud> fogwar, that page will walk you through the various apps that can, yes
[01:52] <Pelo> KevinOman, ok taht might be part of a bug with autostart,  check the forum for help on it , I haven'T had a chance to look it up myself
[01:52] <ComputinChuck> kitche, well, linux won't let you take it out if it's being used..
[01:52] <Surf24> Hello everyone I'm trying Chatzilla to see if it works
[01:52] <KevinOman> pelo right, under system>preferences>sessions
[01:52] <KevinOman> tits gone when I log back in
[01:52] <Pelo> KevinOman,  if i is in a bin folder you don'T need the full path
[01:52] <KevinOman> its*
[01:53] <ShpxLbh_uk> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23000/   there is my fstab file, but in /media there is only empty folders
[01:53] <KevinOman> hmm there's something wrong then pelo
[01:53] <Pelo> KevinOman, like I said there is a bug with the damed session thing
[01:53] <LjL> !away > AresiAWAY    (AresiAWAY, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:53] <KevinOman> ahh
[01:53] <yanger> is there a reason to upgrade kernel? is there a way to hide it from the update manager?
[01:53] <LjL> yanger: it's a security update, you should normally do it.
[01:53] <KevinOman> is there any way to get around the bug pelo ?
[01:54] <Pelo> KevinOman,  most of my stuff works because it was imported from edgy,  but when I make modificatisons, it don'T start anymore
[01:54] <kludge> hi i have a 1.44 gb swap partition that never works! for some reason my ram never goes to swap, which causes my pc to crash! how do i make my partition drive work and is 1.44gb big enough please?
[01:54] <yanger> ahh...
[01:54] <cheeseboi> wats app for configuring network gui?
[01:54] <gesus> hey there -- wondering if anyone could give me a hand installing a plugin for GAIM? I have d/l the plugin (MySpaceIM plugin) but just not sure how to compile it.  Thankyou #ubuntu helpers as always.
[01:54] <Pelo> KevinOman, I haven'T found one yet
[01:54] <Jordan_U> yanger, Why don't you want to update the kernel?
[01:54] <pietro10> kludge: how much RAM do you have?
[01:54] <LjL> kludge: what's the /etc/fstab entry for that partition like?
[01:55] <yanger> i usually wait a lil longer before upgrading kernels... usually new versions come with good things, and sometimes bad things??
[01:55] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, you do have ntfs-3g installed?
[01:55] <zero> kitche: well thx for the help, im not sure what's wrong maybe i read php's docs later
[01:55] <ShpxLbh_uk> nickrud: yep
[01:55] <RAOF> yanger: You can always boot your old kernel if the new one doesn't work.
[01:55] <yanger> or does this theory not work in ubuntu?
[01:55] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, dpkg -l ntfs-3g to double check: if the first two characters are ii, it's installed
[01:55] <pietro10> Well, at least Kevin got his problem fixed
[01:55] <Jordan_U> yanger, You can always select the old kernel with GRUB
[01:55] <fogwar> what is linux ppc vs linux alpha??? which one is ubuntu 6 lol
[01:55] <gesus> hey there -- wondering if anyone could give me a hand installing a plugin for GAIM? I have d/l the plugin (MySpaceIM plugin) but just not sure how to compile it.  Thankyou #ubuntu helpers as always.
[01:56] <LjL> yanger, this is not a kernel straight from kernel.org. it's a security update *from* the Ubuntu maintainers
[01:56] <pietro10> kludge needs to change his/her nick
[01:56] <cheeseboi> wats app for configuring network gui?
[01:56] <M_Fatih> how can i downgrade a mp3's bitrate, i want to minimalize my mp3 files for my mp3player
[01:56] <yanger> LjL, i see... :) ok then :)
[01:56] <cheeseboi> ????
[01:56] <ShpxLbh_uk> nickrud: yes it's installed
[01:56] <KevinOman> pelo do you know where the autostart programs are located?
[01:57] <yanger> i jus remembered that one time when kernel updated, but nvidia didn't and some commotion until they added a fix somewhere..
[01:57] <Pelo> KevinOman,  ~/.config/autostart
[01:57] <RAOF> fogwar: I don't quite understand your question.  Ubuntu 6.06 PPC/Alpha/i386/AMD64 is Ubuntu 6.06 for the PPC/Alpha/i386/AMD64 processor types respectively.
[01:57] <Jordan_U> M_Fatih, Taking something already encoded in a lossy codec ( MP3 ) and re encoding it ( more loss ) is going to give pretty poor results, let alone re-encoding at a lower bitrate
[01:57] <gesus> i'll try later then
[01:58] <groove> nickrud: aha, the old version of network-admin (run from /usr/bin/network-admin) stores its details in ~/.gnome2/network-admin-locations
[01:58] <M_Fatih> Jordan_U: but i'm not ripping, i have mp3 files only
[01:58] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, ok, I'm interested in a couple of error messages: type sudo umount /media/sda2 ; if it says it's not mounted, then type sudo mount /media/sda2
[01:58] <Jordan_U> M_Fatih, I know, that is why I am saying you will likely get bad results
[01:59] <nickrud> groove, one step closer :)
[01:59] <groove> but that was from edgy anyway
[01:59] <groove> i was just trying to find out how to get rid of it
[01:59] <groove> since the two were out of sync
[02:00] <ShpxLbh_uk> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23001/
[02:00] <pietro10> I'd still like to know how to get my iMac's mic working!
[02:00] <usr_rob> i'm at gnomefiles.org now, need a cd-burning application, i have used gnomebaker & xcdroast before, what are your experience, what is the "best" application for the most common burning types?
[02:00] <keifer> would anyone have an idea why i'm stuck with 16bit depth, even though 24 bit is default (running fglrx)
[02:00] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, I'd do what it says :)
[02:00] <Jordan_U> yanger, The only time I remember that happening ( kernel getting upgraded without the Nvidia modules ) was during development, something like that would never happen on a stable release
[02:01] <cheeseboy> how i install network-admin?
[02:01] <pietro10> keifer: check your video card settings
[02:01] <Surf24> Try K3b
[02:01] <pietro10> cheeseboy: what do you mean by network admin?
[02:01] <Jordan_U> cheeseboy, It should be there by default
[02:01] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, if you don't want to boot windows, I'd do option 2
[02:01] <cheeseboy> the gui for it
[02:01] <KevinOman> pelo ok thanks for your help. I created a custom launcher and put it in the autostart folder
[02:01] <usr_rob> Surf24: k3b is kde, thx anyway
[02:01] <pietro10> ok: System > Administration > Network
[02:01] <Pelo> KevinOman,  I haven'T tried it like that , hope it works for you , let me know
[02:02] <ShpxLbh_uk> nickrud: so use force ?
[02:02] <pietro10> There you go
[02:02] <KevinOman> pelo it does work
[02:02] <Jordan_U> cheeseboy, run "network-admin" in the terminal or open System -> Administration -> network
[02:02] <KevinOman> :)
[02:02] <pietro10> yay Kevin!
[02:02] <Pelo> KevinOman,  cool
[02:02] <KevinOman> pelo pietro10 thanks guys
[02:03] <keifer> pietro10, "driver" is "fglrx" and "PseudoColourVisuals" is "off".
[02:03] <silvertip257> I'm trying to customize a LiveCD based on (X)Ubuntu, but I'm having trouble getting good documentation
[02:03] <compaq2> hola
[02:03] <Pelo> !es | compaq2
[02:03] <ubotu> compaq2: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:03] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, I'm real protective of my ntfs partition in linux. I don't use ntfs-3g yet, it's not ready for my prime time. I'd do the double boot because I'm very conservative
[02:03] <Jordan_U> silverblade, Do you know how to use chroot / what it is?
[02:03] <compaq2> gracias
[02:04] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, and then go browse the net, trying to figure out why ntfs-3g needs a hack like that
[02:04] <ShpxLbh_uk> nickrud: okey. so you think that after boot windows and back to ubuntu, I'll can mount partitions ?
[02:04] <Surf24> KDE aps will work wirth gnome.
[02:04] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, like it says, boot twice.
[02:05] <ShpxLbh_uk> nickrud: cheers, bye :)
[02:05] <usr_rob> Surf24: i know. don't want to mix kde/gnome
[02:05] <RampageAI> What would be a good comparison of Ubuntu vs Freespire anyone?
[02:05] <Surf24> I have had no problem mixing
[02:05] <fogwar> woo
[02:05] <fogwar> i got it! lol
[02:05] <pietro10> Does Gaim support the Compose key?
[02:05] <pietro10> yay fogwar
[02:05] <fogwar> question is, now will it work in the browser?
[02:06] <KevinOman> pietro10:  there is pidgin now, the predecessor to gaim it has some new functions
[02:06] <monstarmike> hello all, what do I need to apt-get to use the NVIDIA binary installer.  It says I need that I need libc.
[02:07] <pietro10> sudo apt-get libc
[02:07] <pietro10> Yes kevin but my system still uses gaim
[02:07] <monstarmike> is that all I need or do I need to get the whole compiler deal
[02:07] <xMore> I have a question about video drivers and getting Ubuntu installed because of certain errors
[02:07] <KevinOman> pietro10:  so does mine I have both of them :)
[02:07] <monstarmike> what I mean isn't there a package that contains a bunch of the common libs
[02:08] <pietro10> In that case, just get it from synaptic
[02:08] <nickrud> monstarmike, install build-essential
[02:08] <nickrud> monstarmike, compiler & some essential lib support :)
[02:08] <Pelo> xMore,  what is the actual queston ?
[02:08] <Jordan_U> monstarmike, Don't use the NVIDIA binary installer! You don't need to
[02:08] <pietro10> Better yet, get glibc
[02:09] <monstarmike> thanks, nickrud.  That was what I think I'm looking for.  The NVIDIA installer crashes just asking for libc
[02:09] <aquarius> if I copied a file with cp and it aborted half way through, can I "resume" the copy and just copy the remainder, in the way tht wget can "resume" http downloads?
[02:09] <nickrud> monstarmike, but notice what Jordan_U said as well.
[02:09] <groove> nickrud: hmm, seems the network manager in feisty is simply running through gksu, therefore the settings are stored in /root/.gnome2/network-admin-locations
[02:09] <Surf24> K3b actually works on my gnome and gnomebaker doesn't
[02:09] <groove> nickrud: can you see your settings in that location?
[02:09] <xMore> I have an nVidia GeForce 5200 installed, Intel onboard is disabled, has been. When I go to install Ubuntu, it's recognizing the onboard video and not my nVidia card, therefore X is having issues. I can't figure out how to tell it to use my nVidia card on initial setup.
[02:10] <Jordan_U> monstarmike, Unless you know you need the newest version use the restricted driver manager instead, it is supprted and won't break every time there is a kernel update ( like today :)
[02:10] <nickrud> groove, oh, now that really sucks, I don't automatically back up that dir
[02:10] <Pelo> xMore,  you can't on setup , activate your onboard intel card,   install ubuntu then reactivate the nvidia one and install the nvidia drivers
[02:10] <monstarmike> right, well I'm fixing a botched setup.  Someone tried to install/compile the ATI drivers and when busted went to the NVIDIA.  I think they had the NVIDIA installer run once before
[02:10] <nickrud> groove, and explicitly, yes
[02:11] <ryanakca> RampageAI: it should work quite well on that hardware
[02:11] <xMore> Pelo>> Thank you. Doing that was a last resort, but it looks like I have no choice . . thank you .. =D
[02:11] <aquarius> alternatively, can I copy only the last N bytes of a file?
[02:11] <Five_star> hello
[02:11] <groove> nickrud: well, it works for me anyway, i mainly wanted to know where the settings were
[02:11] <groove> all i've gotta do now is get it working nicely with wpa_supplicant
[02:11] <Pelo> xMore,  he last resort is using the alternate install cd, which is text based and cares not about the video driver
[02:11] <Five_star> I just installed the nvidia drivers and restarded X, but it's saying there's no compatable devices
[02:12] <Five_star> so now I'm chilling in irssi in terminal mode
[02:12] <Five_star> without x
[02:12] <nickrud> groove, I have a better idea of what it's doing, now that I see how it's saving. Thanks
[02:12] <Five_star> sigh, installing ubuntu is an adventure every time for me
[02:12] <monstarmike> is there a kernel sources package?
[02:12] <AresiAWAY> !nickspam
[02:12] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently
[02:13] <Surf24> Can you defrag HD in Ubuntu?
[02:13] <LjL> !info linux-source | monstarmike
[02:13] <ubotu> monstarmike: linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.28.1 (feisty), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[02:13] <cables> Surf24, you don't have to
[02:13] <monstarmike> thanks
[02:13] <Five_star> I was getting ready to install beryl and after I installed the nvidia drivers and went to restart X it froze, so I restarted to discover that it's not finding my graphics card or something
[02:13] <pietro10> !info microphone | pietro10
[02:13] <Surf24> Why ?
[02:13] <LjL> Surf24: it's mostly not necessary, as ext3 tries (and usually succeeds) to keep fragmentation to a minimum
[02:13] <cables> Surf24, Ext3 doesn't get fragmented like Windows filesystems do.
[02:14] <pietro10> Surf24: long story
[02:14] <ComputinChuck> i'm having some trouble with gnome startup.  the splash screen hangs around for a really long time .. seems like a program is causing the process to hang
[02:14] <nickrud> Five_star, take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log , if you haven't already
[02:14] <RampageAI> !info requirements | RampageAI
[02:14] <Surf24> Sounds good was worried about junk
[02:14] <LjL> Surf24: there is a "defrag" package available, however it's been unmaintained for long and used to work for ext2 only. it works with ext3 now, but i guess it can still be a little dangerous.
[02:14] <LjL> !info defrag | Surf24
[02:14] <Five_star> nickrud: I did, and it said that it couldn't find the device, and that a screen couldn't be made or w/e
[02:14] <ubotu> surf24: defrag: ext2, minix and xiafs filesystem defragmenter. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.73pjm1-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 68 kB, installed size 208 kB
[02:14] <bruenig> pjm?
[02:14] <pietro10> ubotu didn't help ext3 :-( time to go reprogram :-)
[02:14] <Surf24> How can it be deangerous
[02:14] <philipsmith> Help! I've got an ubuntu machine with 2 hard drives: one is slave. I did an update, and the system said something about a bad superblock... and the machine would not reboot. So I resintalled Feisty. I'm trying to mount that second hard drive, but am having trouble seeing it anyplace can somebody tell where I should look? Is it in /dev/hda1 or something like that?
[02:15] <Skiff> guys any1 knows how to edit fonttype  for the TABs in XCHAT, it doesnt use the textbox one and I want it to..
[02:15] <bruenig> pietro10, you realize that ext3 is ext2 with journaling right?
[02:15] <nickrud> Five_star, switch back to nv then :)
[02:15] <pietro10> oh
[02:15] <cables> Surf24, it's just not that robust, and you can lose files. You really don't read it, though.
[02:15] <IlluminaX> So has Ubuntu been downloaded a lot more since vista was released?
[02:15] <SayaSe> Whenever I "Move to Trash" files from my old NTFS Windows partition /media/hd5 they vanish, but don't free up any space. What am I doing wrong?
[02:15] <pietro10> ...
[02:15] <Five_star> nickrud: how do I do that? I was hoping on getting this working tonight.
[02:15] <monstarmike> philipsmith it should be /dev/hda2 unless it is a sata drive
[02:15] <pietro10> Empty your trash
[02:15] <nickrud> philipsmith, sudo fdisk -l will show all the partitions you have
[02:15] <Surf24> Thanks for info ubotu
[02:15] <pietro10> If that doesn't work... I dunno
[02:15] <cables> SayaSe, you need to empty the trash
[02:15] <bruenig> !opsnack | Surf24
[02:15] <cables> Surf24, ubotu is a bot
[02:15] <SayaSe> cables: They do not appear in the trash.
[02:16] <ubotu> Surf24: Chocolate!   Cruising for info, that kind of thing. what exact error is it, anyway?
[02:16] <Surf24> Silly me
[02:16] <bruenig> cables kills all the fun
[02:16] <pietro10> u/b/o/t/u gives me a lot of messages
[02:16] <cables> SayaSe, go to your Windows drive, go to View>Show Hidden Files, and find the .Trash-something folder
[02:16] <philipsmith> nickrud: Thank you. It looks like it is hdb. I'll try to mount it. Thank you so much. Phil Smith Duluth, GA
[02:17] <pietro10> philipsmith: here is the way a hard drive is named in /dev:
[02:17] <monstarmike> hmm, hate to bother everyone again, but I am tring to get NVIDIA from their installer.  It is asking me for the kernel source tree.  I just got the package for linix-source.  No go.  Any suggestions?
[02:17] <nickrud> philipsmith, it won't be hdb by itself, but probably hdb1
[02:17] <Surf24> What kind of bot?
[02:17] <cables> monstarmike, don't use their installer
[02:17] <SayaSe> cables: Hey, that worked. Thanks!
[02:17] <pietro10> hd means IDE drive, sd means SATA drive
[02:17] <bruenig> that is no longer true I believe in the last kernel
[02:17] <pietro10> after that, the letter a-z means the drive number 0-26
[02:17] <cables> Surf24, it tells people things we tell it to tell them
[02:17] <pietro10> Then the number means the partition number
[02:17] <monstarmike> cables, understand.  But this is a botch reinstall from a previous use of the NIVIDIA installer
[02:17] <IlluminaX> The funniest thing about Ubuntu is that many people can't believe it's free!
[02:17] <philipsmith> nickrud: THANK YOU!!!!
[02:17] <cables> Surf24, for example, watch this:
[02:17] <pietro10> So /dev/hdb is the second drive, while /dev/hdb1 is the first partition on that drive
[02:17] <monstarmike> cables, is it possible to un mess it using the latest NVIDIA package?
[02:18] <cables> !defrag | Surf24
[02:18] <ubotu> Surf24: defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[02:18] <IlluminaX> Everybody vote for Ron Paul in 2008!
[02:18] <Detox_at_Home> this is OFF topic ,,,,:::: can anyone assist with talk or write command?  would like to communicate on remote pc with other users ,,, and cannot get the stupid command to work
[02:18] <nickrud> philipsmith, yw :)
[02:18] <AresiAWAY> pietro10: what does the letters mean?
[02:18] <cables> monstarmike, try installing the official way.
[02:18] <pietro10> Using !bots !is !fun
[02:18] <AresiAWAY> pietro10: and what about the numbers?
[02:18] <monstarmike> cables, what apt package is that as I'm at the command line
[02:18] <Rio79> cables what about for fat32 filesystems?  (defrag)
[02:18] <pietro10> ok: hd = IDE drive, sd = SATA drive
[02:18] <Surf24> cables; Well I'm new at this
[02:18] <cables> Rio79, I don't think it works on that FS
[02:18] <pietro10> *SCSI drive, not SATA
[02:18] <pietro10> * SCSI drive, not SATA drive
[02:19] <Rio79> cables oh okay
[02:19] <pietro10> The third letter is the drive number ,where a is the first drive and b is the second and so on
[02:19] <cables> monstarmike, why don't you switch to the "nv" driver so you can get to a GUI?
[02:19] <Five_Star> I can't remember who that guy was that was helping me but it says no devices could be found and that a screen couldn't be made
[02:19] <melman101> Hey all. I installed the newest kernel, and now my sd card is close to working. when i put in a card i get a /dev/mmcblk0 but it still won't mount (mount -t vfat /dev/mmcblk0 /mnt/sdcard) It's a Ricoh R5C822 SD Card Reader built into a laptop (Dell D420). Any suggestions? I plugged in my USB SD card reader and it mounted automagically.
[02:19] <bruenig> !enter \ pietro10
[02:19] <pietro10> The number is the partition number ,where 0 is the first partition
[02:19] <cables> monstarmike, what version of Ubuntu do you have?
[02:19] <bruenig> !enter | pietro10
[02:19] <ubotu> pietro10: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:19] <monstarmike> cables, feisty
[02:19] <pietro10> ok u/b/o/t/u and bruenig
[02:19] <Taxman> melman101: what error do you get on trying to mount?
[02:20] <melman101> one sec
[02:20] <cables> monstarmike, well if you do < sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf > and scroll down to Section "Device", you can change Driver to "nv" and get into a GUI again. Then you can use the Ubuntu driver installer (System>Administration>Restricted Drivers) to install it automatically.
[02:20] <Five_Star> anybody mind scrolling up a bit and looking for the name of the guy that was helping me? I accidentally closed irssi
[02:20] <Five_Star> nevermind
[02:20] <Five_Star> cables: thanks, I was looking for that
[02:20] <monstarmike> cables, I'll try that but if I remember I think that didn't work
[02:20] <melman101> mount: /dev/mmcblk0: can't read superblock
[02:21] <Taxman> the same card works in the other SD reader?
[02:21] <melman101> yup
[02:21] <Taxman> how does the livecd work for you? same error?
[02:22] <pietro10> Once again does anyone know about the iMac mic?
[02:22] <Surf24> cables: what about forced checking of hd1
[02:22] <cables> Surf24, what?
[02:22] <melman101> Taxman: yup same. actually the livecd has a lower kernel, i only got the /dev/mmcblk0 when i upgraded to the newest kernel today.
[02:22] <foug> what's the command to uninstall something?
[02:22] <Taxman> melman101: also try googling for your error to tell what's going on
[02:22] <melman101> Taxman: i have. been on ubuntuforums.org
[02:23] <cables> foug, sudo aptitude remove
[02:23] <melman101> and everywhere
[02:23] <melman101> can't find anything
[02:23] <defjux> my computer isn't crashing anymore!!
[02:23] <foug> cables: thanks
[02:23] <foug> cables: does sudo apt remove work too?
[02:23] <cables> foug, sudo apt-get remove works, but aptitude is smarter with dependencies
[02:23] <Taxman> melman101: can't read superblock is not an obscure error, you shouldn't have found nothing. But sorry, that's not an error I can help with
[02:23] <foug> cables: cool thanks man
[02:24] <melman101> Taxman: it's cool, thanks though
[02:24] <Surf24> cables:some hd1 scan or error check  after 80 plus starts
[02:24] <Taxman> melman101: see if you can't find who wrote the driver and email them *very* nicely
[02:24] <cables> Surf24, what about it?
[02:24] <five_star> cables: I did what you said, changing it to "nv" instead of "nvidia" and it still didn't work
[02:24] <pietro10> Better yet where is the GNOME Mixer?
[02:25] <cables> five_star, I was directing that to someone else... I didn't see what the problem you were having was.
[02:25] <Tacroy> How do I enable WPA when my computer is running as the wireless host?
[02:25] <five_star> cables: same problem
[02:25] <Surf24> cables; Is check important measure and can it be run independently?
[02:25] <cables> five_star, try changing it to "vesa" as that will pretty much work with anything
[02:25] <five_star> heh
[02:25] <five_star> alright
[02:26] <five_star> i'll let you know how it goes
[02:26] <cables> Surf24, it should be fine by itself, the filesystem corrects itself as it goes.
[02:26] <ubuntu__> hola
[02:26] <bobsumone> hey guys im having some trouble with samba on ubuntu server
[02:26] <cables> !es | ubuntu__
[02:26] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:26] <Jordan_U> !hi | ubuntu__
[02:26] <ubuntu__> hola soy de chile
[02:26] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:27] <Surf24> cables; thanks there is little info about system self-correction.
[02:27] <ubuntu__> hola
[02:27] <cables> Surf24, it's called journalling
[02:27] <ubuntu__> alguien sabe espaol
[02:27] <RampageAI> Nosotros no hablamos espanol
[02:27] <nickrud> !es | ubuntu__
[02:27] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:27] <melman101> Taxman: yeah, nada on google.
[02:27] <ubuntu__> gracias
[02:27] <nickrud> de nada :)
[02:28] <Surf24> cables; thanks for the info I'll call it journaling.
[02:28] <five_star> cables: it's still telling me the same "no screens found" problem, still no X :(
[02:28] <pietro10> RampageAl: you just did
[02:28] <pietro10> ha ha
[02:28] <pietro10> bye
[02:28] <nickrud> five_star, look for a missing " somewhere in xorg.conf
[02:28] <Jordan_U> five_star, What kind of card do you have and was it ever working?
[02:28] <geniusvicks> how does one change color photos to black and white in linux?
[02:28] <five_star> nickrud: no "'s are missing, I already looked
[02:29] <nickrud> five_star, eh, that's what I always do wrong
[02:29] <Jordan_U> geniusvicks, From the GUI or terminal?
[02:29] <five_star> Jordan_U: MSI Nvidia GeForce 6600 256mb, worked fine, then I went to install the nvidia drivers and on restart it didn't work
[02:29] <cables> geniusvicks, you could use GIMP
[02:29] <geniusvicks> Jordan_U, using GIMP?
[02:29] <cables> geniusvicks, open it in GIMP, go to Image > Mode > Grayscale
[02:30] <RampageAI> GIMP rocks.
[02:30] <Surf24> cables; Is there any app or command that allows secure file delertion?
[02:30] <Jordan_U> five_star, How did you install the nvidia drivers and have you tried running: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[02:30] <cables> Surf24, probably, but I don't know it.
[02:30] <geniusvicks> Thanks
[02:30] <five_star> Jordan_U: lemme try that, brb
[02:30] <jrib> Surf24: shred
[02:30] <emet> Ubuntu ubuntu they drink it in the congo?
[02:31] <DSpair> Hey gang. Need some help with a Canon USB Scanner. Any Takers?
[02:31] <Jordan_U> !offtopic | emet
[02:31] <ubotu> emet: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:31] <LjL> !ask
[02:31] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:31] <openmindDJ> has anyone upgraded the to the newest <IP_ADDRESS> kernel?  I have been on the forums and it seems that there are a few people that have had issues with the upgrade..
[02:31] <Surf24> jrib: Thanks, does shred over write a certain number of times?
[02:31] <melman101> openmindDJ: i upgraded, so far everything seems good.
[02:31] <cables> !man | Surf24
[02:31] <ubotu> Surf24: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:31] <nickrud> openmindDJ, working ok here (no special hardware)
[02:32] <jrib> Surf24: yes, see "man shred"
[02:32] <Gandalf84> can somebody help me with ndiswrapper please?
[02:32] <DSpair> I can see the scanner when I run "sane-find-scanners", but I cannot see it when I run "scanimage -L" or any other sane program.
[02:32] <Jordan_U> openmindDJ, Where any of the problems *not* related to proprietary Nvidia / ATI drivers ?
[02:32] <Surf24> jrib: Thanks will check out man.
[02:32] <Jordan_U> Gandalf84, What card / chipset?
[02:32] <Gandalf84> i follow edmonte tutorial here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=250982&page=2
[02:32] <openmindDJ> i saw an issue with an IRQ problem
[02:32] <LjL> DSpair: you may need to enable the correct driver in /etc/sane.d/dll.conf
[02:32] <Gandalf84> but after restart i can't see wlan
[02:33] <openmindDJ> i have an ATI card myself which could be an issue
[02:33] <Gandalf84> motherboard integrated AP: Asus P5B deluxe Wifi-Ap
[02:33] <DSpair> LjL: As far as I know, I have. I added the pixma backin into the dll.con
[02:33] <DSpair> conf even.
[02:33] <five_star> Jordan_U: thanks, it works
[02:34] <LjL> DSpair: what does sane-find-scanner output exactly about your scanner? you may also have to edit /etc/sane.d/pixma (or whatever it's called) and change parameters
[02:34] <DSpair> LjL: I also configured the proper prodId and vendorID in UDEV
[02:34] <Jordan_U> openmindDJ, You shouldn't have a problem as long as you used the restricted driver manager instead of installing from ati.com
[02:35] <DSpair> LjL: It says "found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9 [Canon Inc.] , product=0x263e [MP390 Series] ) at libusb:004:004"
[02:35] <LjL> DSpair: are you trying scanimage -L as root?
[02:35] <DSpair> LjL: I have tried root and unprivileged.
[02:36] <newbie> HELP: Gedit can not open directly a .cvs file,
[02:36] <newbie> I open .cvs file via openoffice, copy and paste to gedit -- then it display
[02:36] <newbie> Is there any quick way to do this one as in windows?
[02:36] <newbie> Thanks
[02:36] <LjL> DSpair: i'm afraid i'm out of ideas. perhaps try disabling all other drivers in dll.conf
[02:36] <openmindDJ> Jordan_U, thanks for the advise.  I have a few updates, the new ubuntu kernel, headers-generic, image-generic, also a low latency kernel, and restricted modules-generic.  Which order of download would be safest?
[02:36] <LjL> !enter | newbie
[02:36] <RampageAI> newbie vi?
[02:36] <demona_> newbie, what is cvs, is it just a text file?
[02:36] <HorizonXP> hey guys
[02:36] <Gandalf84> Jordan_U:can u help me?
[02:36] <ubotu> newbie: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:36] <franko_> howdy
[02:36] <demona_> !howdy | franko_
[02:36] <ubotu> franko_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:36] <HorizonXP> i can't seem to mount my ntfs usb hard drive in read/write mode
[02:37] <HorizonXP> i can mount it read-only.... but not rw
[02:37] <newbie> i m newbie - so i do not know how to use vi
[02:37] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | HorizonXP
[02:37] <ubotu> HorizonXP: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:37] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, have you ejected the drive before it was "safe to remove?"
[02:38] <HorizonXP> i have installed ntfs-3g, and ntfstools
[02:38] <newbie> a .cvs file is a txt file looks like "data","data name","data data"
[02:38] <openmindDJ> ubotu, i have seen this with usb drives when you remove them too early
[02:38] <cables> newbie, you mean .csv?
[02:38] <otero> anyone using bitchx?
[02:38] <DSpair> LjL: Thanks for the attempt.
[02:38] <cheeseboy> how i burn avi to dvd in ubuntu?
[02:38] <RampageAI> newbie I guess it depends on taste, but vi just has different keys for maneuvering.  Arrow keys let you scroll around / i key inserts / :w saves / :q exits / ESC stops inserting.
[02:38] <newbie> cables : yes sorry, my typing error :D
[02:38] <cables> newbie, right click, go to Open With
[02:38] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ: not the 1st time i connected it, it was the first time using it and it was read-only then... i did disconnect it like that after cuz Feisty wasn't letting me unmount it properly and i got annoyed
[02:39] <Jordan_U> HorizonXP, Have you installed ntfs-config and is the drive marked as "unclean" for any reason ( corruption or simply removed without unmounting ) ?
[02:39] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, does it have a read-only switch on the usb drive?
[02:39] <newbie> cables: then ... ?
[02:39] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ: no
[02:39] <agentjk> hi, can i have an fat partition and an ntfs partition on the same drive?