[04:13] <jzaval> there was someone who flooded a few minutes ago
[04:13] <stevenj> O
[04:13] <nopea> hypno, that did it :)
[04:13] <fightingfortofu> yay! OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9600 XT Generic
[04:14] <hypno> nopea: great :)
[04:14] <redemption> levander: True, but it's always been my experience that faster moving parts = more noise.
[04:14] <jzaval> ie Formular 1 racer versus electric wheelchair.
[04:14] <Levander> wow, has anybody seen how they've redesigned amazon product pages?
[04:15] <Levander> that's first redesign I've seen on amazon since I can remember.
[04:15] <nopea> somebody should try doing an ASIO subsystem for Linux! that would ne cool
[04:15] <jzaval> psh-aw. amazon is soo 1999
[04:15] <p> good nigt ppz!
[04:16] <fightingfortofu> and tv out works!
[04:16] <Levander> lol @ jzaval for insisting on being trendy!
[04:16] <jzaval> you bet your sweet tosh </flamboyant>
[04:17] <jzaval> *toosh
[04:17] <Levander> you have a pink cell phone also?
[04:17] <jzaval> alright, goodnight guys...
[04:17] <epod> Why is it that no games I install or plugins work with my sound, but I have system sounds and xmms if set to esd has sound?  What kind of distro ships with broken sound?
[04:17] <jzaval> yes, levander, studded with rhinestones
[04:17] <jzaval> :-D
[04:18] <epod> all I am doing is installing say, tuxracer or supertux via synaptic.  Nothing weird.  It's something you'd expect to work
[04:19] <redemption> epod, it may be that you have a soundcard that doesn't do hardware mixing.
[04:19] <epod> redemption, that would be what esd is for, wouldn't it?
[04:19] <redemption> epod: thus ESD will be taking up the one channel your soundcard has.
[04:19] <thechitowncubs> where is the text file with all the network setup info?
[04:19] <epod> besides, supertux telling me /dev/sequencer doesn't exist seems to be a bit more than a sound channel issue
[04:19] <Levander> thechitowncubs: there are a few of them
[04:19] <thechitowncubs> Levander: which one is the most common
[04:20] <Levander> thechitowncubs: which specific entry?
[04:20] <redemption> epod: yeah, but not everything uses ESD. Most games for example.
[04:20] <thechitowncubs> static ips, essid names...
[04:20] <hypno> epod: that means you dont have midi support
[04:20] <epod> redemption, well, I mean, I hate to say it, but windows manages to pla multichannel sound.  Does Linux not have some facility to support it?
[04:20] <epod> hypno, ah.
[04:20] <Delph> epod: yes; but your packages aren't compiled to use it.
[04:20] <Levander> thechitowncubs: /etc/resolv.conf has where to find the name servers...
[04:20] <epod> Delph, I'm just using the ones from the ubuntu repositories.
[04:21] <Levander> thechitowncubs: what are you trying to do?
[04:21] <Delph> epod: just the ones from the core repositories?
[04:21] <hypno> epod: go ask the hardware manufacturers :)
[04:21] <epod> so is there a solution to this, asides from re-compliing all my packages?
[04:21] <Linforcer> hey, so I have these volume up and down buttons shortcuts mapped to keys on my keyboad, and I press them and I see some volume gauge go up and down, but it has no effect on the actual voulme >.> anyone have a clue why?
[04:21] <thechitowncubs> I'm trying to change my static IP
[04:21] <epod> hypno, that's not a solution to my issue and you know it :)
[04:21] <nopea> while I am here... anybody have an Epson Inkjet printer working?
[04:21] <thechitowncubs> but i think i messed up one of the files
[04:21] <epod> Delph, well, whichever repository supertux and tuxracer are in
[04:21] <redemption> Epod: by doing software mixing.  Alsa is working on this and has partially succeeded, but it's still in  the stage where it is hard to configure.  your best bet would be to purchase like a 20 buck SB live card.
[04:21] <Levander> thechitowncubs: hold on
[04:21] <Delph> epod: that's what I'm asking you.
[04:21] <fightingfortofu> getting the ati drivers and tv out working was actually very easy, i was just messing up with the formot of xorg.conf
[04:21] <thechitowncubs> nvm
[04:21] <thechitowncubs> i found it
[04:22] <thechitowncubs> /etc/network/interfaces
[04:22] <epod> redemption, unfortunately, I'm on a notebook.
[04:22] <Delph> epod: if you're pulling stuff in from universe then you can hardly complain.
[04:22] <epod> Delph, hang on let me check.
[04:22] <fightingfortofu> how do i change the tvs resolution?
[04:22] <hypno> epod: you don't recompile packages. Just remove esd and make sure you only play one thing at once. That's the only option unless your card has hardware multichannel support, really.
[04:22] <Levander> thechitowncubs: okay, good
[04:22] <epod> Delph, sure I can complain, it's yet another obstacle to 'Linux on the desktop' lol.  I mean., MS Windows can multichannel on my card, so there is no *technical* reason Linux can't.
[04:23] <nopea> CoreAudio can do it too :)
[04:23] <Delph> epod: it *can*
[04:23] <nopea> With Direct Monitoring to boot
[04:23] <Delph> you just don't have it capable of doing so by use of the magic wand.
[04:23] <dell500> closure, you still around?
[04:23] <epod> Well then, where is a howto?
[04:23] <Delph> which is what you get with half-rate hardware.
[04:23] <nickrud> epod, here you go: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[04:23] <Determinist> ok , synaptic shows i have mysql installed , or at least i hope i got it right. how can i make sure it is so?
[04:23] <Delph> epod: *hands epod a C programming manual*
[04:24] <epod> Find me a notebook with a multichannel soundblaster, Delph.
[04:24] <epod> heh
[04:24] <xipho> i just installed vsftpd, where is the folder located to put files in?
[04:24] <epod> nickrud, k
[04:24] <redemption> *laughs* Delph, you going to say RTFM next? :-P
[04:24] <nickrud> epod, I've never used this, just repeating others
[04:24] <hypno> Determinist: if it says so then it is :)
[04:24] <closure> dell500, yeah man
[04:24] <xipho> heh, woops, sorry, i forgot about rtfm
[04:25] <hypno> Determinist: you can see the files installed by it and go check manually if you feel like it
[04:25] <Levander> how is it that "nano" is the default editor on these command line programs under hoary?  like less and svn?  How do I change that?  My EDITOR variable isn't currently set.
[04:25] <Determinist> erm , alright , thanks
[04:25] <Determinist> which mysql , or simply mysql did nothing
[04:26] <Determinist> i'll need the server and client , any good idea of what packages i need to have installed?
[04:26] <hypno> Legendre: see /etc/alternatives/editor - it's a symlink
[04:26] <hypno> Levander: even
[04:26] <hypno> bloody new xchat tab completion
[04:26] <AzMoo[w] > Hi guys. Is it possible to run windows programs that are already installed with wine, or do you need to install them under wine for registry keys and such?
[04:27] <dell500> what's the link to the unofficial ubuntu guide?
[04:27] <Delph> redemption: well, you're going to have to update things to use ALSA, if i remember right about Dmix
[04:27] <dcraven> Levander: update-alternatives --config editor
[04:27] <Janux> hi, what's the command for showing the current CPU usage on each processor?
[04:27] <Levander> hypno: /etc/alternatives/vi is linked to /usr/bin/vim
[04:27] <hypno> Determinist: mysql-server and mysql-client
[04:27] <Determinist> AzMoo[w] , possible to run once installed
[04:27] <Determinist> AzMoo[w] , you need not reinstall them under wine
[04:27] <Delph> it is scary alsa plugin, isn't it?
[04:27] <AzMoo[w] > Determinist, excellent, thanks :)
[04:27] <Determinist> hypno, thank you sir
[04:27] <nopea> gotta jet ppl.. cheers!
[04:28] <Determinist> AzMoo[w] , welcome , time i find a way to help you back :)
[04:28] <redemption> delph: yeah, dmix sucks configuring.    Apparently the alternatives "editor" setting is stored somewhere else than in the link /etc/alternatives/vi.  Cause, it was set on nano.  I changed it to vi.  But, would like to know where that's set.
[04:29] <Levander> hypno: nevermind, it's set in /etc/alternatives/editor
[04:29] <Levander> hypno: thanks for you help getting that changed, was *major* annoyance for me that would come up occasionally.
[04:29] <hypno> Levander: that's what i said :/
[04:29] <dell500> is raid already supported in ubuntu ?
[04:30] <redemption> Delph: gotcha.   alsa can really be a bitch to set up, even with hardware mixing.
[04:32] <Levander> In ~/.bashrc there's a PS1 setting that lets you set your prompt to a color.  I want to change the color, anybody know how?
[04:33] <nickrud> Levander, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/
[04:33] <Levander> hypno: sorry, must not have read so good
[04:33] <Levander> nickrud: checking out now, thanks
[04:33] <epod> nickrud, awesome, it's working.
[04:34] <nickrud> epod, thanks, know I know I can give out that link more often :)
[04:34] <xipho> i checked the man pages and the conf file and i still can't find where the directory for vsftp is, could someone help?
[04:35] <hypno> xipho: surely you specify the folder in the config file
[04:36] <xipho> hypno: in /etc/vsftpd.conf right?
[04:37] <stevenj> Has anyone had any success in transfering a file using Gaim (yahoo protocol)? I shows the transfer but never the other person if they want to receive it
[04:37] <hypno> xipho: i don't know, i've never used it, but i'd assume so
[04:38] <xipho> hypno: thanks, the man page was kinda sparse
[04:38] <doe34244> help gettting NVIDIA drivers working!?  I get the message Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:38] <bob2> doe34244: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:38] <doe34244> Ive installed the nvidia drivers via synaptic
[04:38] <bob2> did you do that yet?
[04:38] <] BreliC[> how do i force kill an process that just won't die?? kill pid just won't work
[04:39] <doe34244> kill -9 pid
[04:39] <bob2> that may or may not work
[04:39] <bob2> some processess are unkillable
[04:39] <] BreliC[> really?  an undead process??
[04:39] <doe34244> what if you strangle it to death?
[04:39] <] BreliC[> :)
[04:39] <hypno> you need the exorcise command for that
[04:39] <bob2> it's a zombie
[04:39] <guruff> hello my ubuntu is damn slow; text scrollin yields 100% cpu; and everything related with text scroling showith text is sloow - would anyone be able to help me with that; what to change; what to do ?
[04:39] <] BreliC[> doe34244, thanks, the -9 did it..
[04:40] <snw1972> I had a system working with warty; in particular networking was working.  Now that I have upgraded to hoary it doesn't seem to work anymore.  i can ping the local interface but not anything else on the network.  Any ideas for what to try?
[04:40] <doe34244> so anybody know how to get my nvidia drivers working? I installed the package. now I get this when running glxinfo: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:40] <bob2> doe34244: dude
[04:40] <bob2> doe34244: did you read that page or not?
[04:40] <xipho> hypno: thank you for your help, it's working now
[04:40] <doe34244> bob2: no
[04:40] <hypno> snw1972: other than checking that the network settings are right? :)
[04:40] <bob2> doe34244: then go read it
[04:40] <bob2> doe34244: it explains everything you need to do
[04:41] <doe34244> bob2: thanks
[04:41] <doe34244> will do
[04:41] <FeJaOr> does anybody know what's the newest driver for an HP PSC 1210??
[04:41] <g14> FeJaOr: I'd be willing to bet your buddy google would
[04:41] <snw1972> hypno: I am pretty sure the network settings are right... but I have made dumb mistakes before.
[04:42] <FeJaOr> g14, there's 2 of them and don't know exactly which one is the "best"
[04:42] <Determinist> i think ubuntu 5.04 has to be the best OS for my laptop , this is not the case however for my P4 test server , gonna stay with Fedora on that , better administration abilities and less defaults.
[04:43] <] BreliC[> g14, lol
[04:43] <snw1972> hypno: I have it set up with static IP, <IP_ADDRESS>/24.  Other machines at  <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> can ping each other, but not this box.
[04:43] <Jerub> Determinist: you would use fedora for a server?
[04:43] <snw1972> hypno: During install it claimed it couldn't find a DHCP server, but there is one of those as well.
[04:43] <g14> FeJaOr: ok thats better, send me the link to both and I will try to help you
[04:43] <Jerub> (someone would use ubuntu for a server?)
[04:43] <Determinist> Jerub, a testing server , yes , it is far more friendly on the administrative side
[04:43] <g14> If you don't mind rpms, try CentOS 4 for a server
[04:44] <Jerub> Determinist: any testing server should be 100% the same as the production server...
[04:44] <brian_> I uncommented the lines in sources.list to allow access to 'universe' in apt.  when I run apt-get update I get a GPG error : unkown error executing gpgv
[04:44] <g14> A production server should undergo much more security testing and hardening
[04:44] <Janux> hi, does anyone know the command for showing the current processes with CPU usage like the one that you can see in M$ windows?
[04:45] <bob2> Janux: top
[04:45] <Janux> bob2, thanks a lot
[04:45] <brian_> Janux, or install gtop
[04:45] <Determinist> Jerub, well , it is for personal use with php/mysql/apache , no critical data would be stored on it , at least for now
[04:45] <thechitowncubs> Hey
[04:45] <hypno> snw1972: assuming your physical connection is ok and the driver for your card loaded ok you can set the dhcp etc options in the System menu ->Adminstration->Networking applet
[04:46] <Jerub> Determinist: but how can you test when you have different hardware and software?
[04:46] <snw1972> Hypno: I did a server install, I don't have any of the graphical stuff.
[04:46] <hypno> snw1972: then edit /etc/network/interfaces
[04:47] <Determinist> Jerub, well , i need to test the functionality of the code i write , not the platform. good code == portable code.
[04:47] <Janux> bob2, what program will run python at the background all the time in Ubuntu? it eats up 30% of my CPU usage all the time, is it X-Chat?
[04:47] <snw1972> Hypno: Ayup, that's what I have been doing.  As far as physical connections go, I at least see the lights blink on the hub.
[04:48] <bob2> Janux: doubt it
[04:48] <Stryfe> Hello everyone.
[04:48] <bob2> Janux: find the pid in top, then use 'ps auxf' to see the tree of processes, so you can see who the parent is.
[04:49] <Janux> bob2, ic...thanks, let me try
[04:49] <thundrcleeze> hi Stryfe
[04:49] <Epix-> lol. the sucidal persons first program: echo "goodbye world";
[04:49] <TechLord> what are some good games for linux
[04:49] <Epix-> TechLord, I like banner
[04:49] <thundrcleeze> depends on what you want, TechLord
[04:49] <hypno> snw1972: that could be any traffic, though. sudo mii-tool will show the physical connection status
[04:49] <Epix-> TechLord, you have no clue how fun it is to put a laptop on its side and then banner fuck u and scrolll it
[04:49] <Cowlike> quake 3 arena  :)  (not free, of course)
[04:50] <thundrcleeze> frozen bubble is addictive.
[04:50] <dcraven> enemy-territory is fun, although non-free again.
[04:50] <xon> I have a text file, whats the easiest way for me to find out how many times a specific word occurs in it?
[04:50] <dcraven> no-cost, but non-free.
[04:50] <Janux> bob2, how do you see that? it's pretty confusing
[04:50] <Epix-> Cowlike, how do you run q3 on linux?
[04:50] <Epix-> Cowlike, and.. where can i get it?
[04:50] <dcraven> Epix-: id
[04:51] <Delph> Epix-: by using the native linux port... see id's site if it's not in a repository somewhere.
[04:51] <snw1972> hypno: The network doesn't have a lot of traffic so it's reasonably reasonable to correlate.  I did the mii-tool thing, it says eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok.  That sounds like a good thing...
[04:51] <dcraven> Epix-: you can use your windows data files
[04:51] <Epix-> dcraven, coolio
[04:51] <Janux> bob2, omg...found it...the gdesklets is eating up my resources...
[04:51] <Cowlike> there is a linux client but you need the files from windows
[04:51] <Janux> bob2, thank you so much
[04:51] <thundrcleeze> Cowlike, can't you use files from the demo?  Or is that another game?
[04:51] <Cowlike> just search for "linux q3 arena" and you'll find the linux binaries
[04:52] <Cowlike> hmmm... the demo probably works too but you won't have many maps :)
[04:52] <dcraven> enemy-territory is fun as hell.
[04:52] <hypno> snw1972: try ip route list to check that traffic for <IP_ADDRESS>/24 is going through the right inteface
[04:53] <snw1972> hypno:
[04:53] <hypno> snw1972: or replace 'static' with 'dhcp' in the interfaces config file to try dhcp
[04:54] <Cowlike> isn't there a linux version of America's Army too?
[04:54] <thundrcleeze> What is the way to change the default browser?
[04:54] <thundrcleeze> Yes, Cowlike
[04:54] <snw1972> hypno: ip route list says: <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:54] <snw1972> default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0
[04:54] <HrdwrBoB> Cowlike: yes
[04:54] <joltcola> I'm creating a live cd of  ubuntu-5.04-live-amd64.iso  I just finished downloaded. And I've got a cd burning question, could someone help with that?
[04:55] <fightingfortofu> why does firefox seem sluggish compared to when i used it in windows?
[04:55] <hypno> snw1972: sounds alright, if 1.1 is your router. can you ping out to the internet from the server?
[04:56] <Determinist> what i wanna know is if the drivers for linux for the ati/nvidia fps busters are actually taking advantage of what the hardware has to offer?
[04:56] <snw1972> hypno: If I ping <IP_ADDRESS> I get "From <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable"
[04:57] <snw1972> hypno: I seem to get that if I try to ping anything else besides <IP_ADDRESS>.
[04:57] <Determinist> snw1972, no route , make sure you have a default gateway set up and if the nic is functional
[04:57] <snw1972> hypno: Yes, 1.1 is my router
[04:58] <snw1972> determinist: in my interfaces file I have gateway <IP_ADDRESS>, shouldn't that set up my default gateway?
[04:58] <Levander> Okay, thanks nickrud, I got the color of my bash prompt changed.
[04:58] <Levander> Now, where is the LS_COLORS variable set in hoary.  Don't see it in ~/.bashrc or /etc/bash.bashrc
[04:58] <Levander> ?
[04:58] <Determinist> snw1972, is your nic static IP or DHCP?
[04:58] <flodine> can someone tell me why the soulmachine site not working
[04:58] <snw1972> Determinist: static.
[04:59] <joltcola> cowlike: Are you trying to chat?
[04:59] <Determinist> snw1972, any reason why you shouldnt use the router's dhcp?
[04:59] <Mace68> has anybody experienced terribly slow LAN trsnfer speeds in hoary?
[04:59] <nickrud> Levander, man dircolors
[04:59] <Determinist> snw1972, that *should* give you the proper settings and set up a proper routing table
[04:59] <flodine> anyone using soulmachine in repsitory
[04:59] <snw1972> determinist: I tend to make my servers use static addresses.
[04:59] <Levander> nickrud: thanks again!
[05:00] <flodine> hello buntu folks
[05:00] <Determinist> snw1972, hmm , so you're basically not capable of accessing ... what?
[05:00] <nickrud> Levander, I followed this path a while ago, it's a fun one :)
[05:00] <flodine> can someone tell me why the soulmachine site not working
[05:01] <snw1972> determinist: I can't seem to access the network at all.  During install it said it couldn't find a DHCP server, although there should be one available.  It's like my packets are being eaten, except I see blinkenlights.
[05:01] <Nalioth> flodine, what is soulmachine?
[05:01] <Levander> nickrud: i'm beginning to understand your taunt...
[05:01] <nickrud> Levander, which one, I'm a known taunter :)
[05:01] <Determinist> snw1972, does this happen with other machines on your network , or just this one?
[05:02] <hypno> snw1972: hmm. Try and rule out any odd physical connection problems. Try mii-diag, ethtool, other cables.. strange things happen sometimes.
[05:02] <Levander> about dircolors being a "fun" path
[05:02] <snw1972> determininst: Things had worked with warty, when I upgraded to hoary it started doing this, so then I did a full install of hoary and it is still doing this.
[05:02] <snw1972> determinist: Yeah, all my other machines seem happy.
[05:02] <snw1972> mii-diag reported things were ok.
[05:03] <Determinist> snw1972, paste the contents of what route says in terminal
[05:03] <snw1972> determinist: I should be so lucky as to be able to paste them, all would be well.  :)
[05:03] <snw1972> Determinist:
[05:04] <Determinist> snw1972, that means what? cant you open a terminal , punch in the word route , press enter and do a copy paste? lol
[05:04] <hypno> Determinist: copy paste to what? the box can't get online
[05:04] <Determinist> ohh , ohh
[05:05] <geneo93> duh
[05:05] <Determinist> ohh hush , it's 6 am , been up since 5 am yesterday :P
[05:05] <Seq> well wireless in windows sucks. the card keeps resetting itself every three minutes or so
[05:05] <Determinist> snw1972, what's the contents of route ... without copy-pasting ...
[05:05] <snw1972> determinist:
[05:05] <snw1972> route -n
[05:05] <snw1972> Destination Gateway     Genmask Flags Metric Ref use Ifac
[05:05] <snw1972> <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS> U  0 0 0 eth0
[05:05] <snw1972> <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>       UG 0 0 0 eth0
[05:06] <Determinist> seems to be right
[05:06] <Determinist> it's not a routing issue
[05:07] <sono> hey friends... does anyone knows how to trim a PS file with useless blank space around the content?  maybe a psutils thing or such
[05:07] <snw1972> Determinist: Well, y'all have to take my word on the addresses and stuff, but yeah the routing table seemed right to me as well.  I'm still hoping it's something stupid where I've transposed an IP address or something.
[05:08] <Determinist> i hope so lol
[05:08] <Determinist> otherwise you're dealing with fucked up wires , like hypno suggested
[05:08] <nickrud> this is kinda off topic, but any observations why all the more recent softwart that's interesting (muine & beagle off the top of my head) is c#?
[05:08] <hypno> because its easier to write, i guess
[05:09] <kg6gfq> anyone know where to find the source (tgz format) for the amd64 ubuntu kernel?
[05:09] <bob2> kg6gfq: in the kernel-source package
[05:09] <nickrud> hypno, I stopped coding a long time ago, is it really easier?
[05:09] <bob2> sono: pscrop? gimp?
[05:09] <Marble2> how can I setup mplayer to use the xine engine for sound output
[05:09] <andrewski> Marble2: use xine-ui?
[05:09] <bob2> kg6gfq: but why?
[05:10] <bob2> Marble2: why do you want that?
[05:10] <hypno> nickrud: i havent used it, but its on a par with python afaik, which i do use. And yes, it's easier and faster (i felt)
[05:10] <andrewski> how can i tell samba to start on boot?
[05:10] <bob2> andrewski: it does already
[05:10] <sono> thx bob2... I ll google for pscrop Thx so much
[05:10] <snw1972> determinist: I just replaced cable, same thing.  It would be a big coincidence if it was that, just last night I did the apt-get upgrade-dist, things were working ok then.
[05:10] <hypno> Marble2: i dont think you can do that
[05:10] <Marble2> bob2: Well I wasn't getting sound in amarok or mplayer, but I configured amarok to use xine as the output, and it works now. So I want to get sound working in mplayer by doing the same
[05:10] <andrewski> bob2: hmm, not sure about that.  i just started it manually.  how can i check?
[05:11] <nickrud> hypno, huh. miquel does something else right, I guess :)
[05:11] <Marble2> is xine-ui totem-xine?
[05:11] <bob2> Marble2: you probably just want mplayer to use esd for output
[05:11] <nickrud> miquel*
[05:11] <bob2> andrewski: by default it starts on boot
[05:11] <andrewski> Marble2: totem is a frontend for xine.
[05:11] <Marble2> esd as output gives no sound
[05:11] <bob2> andrewski: if you didn't change it, it will be
[05:11] <Marble2> well totem has sound
[05:11] <Determinist> snw1972, would try removing the NIC and reinstalling it ... perhaps it's a driver issue of some sort
[05:11] <hypno> Marble2: mplayer has excellent sound support of its own, but if you are using a package version it depends on how it was compiled
[05:11] <Marble2> but I just thought it'd be nice to have mplayer sound working
[05:11] <bob2> "xine output" doesn't mean anything in particular
[05:11] <andrewski> bob2: yes, but perhaps i did?  how do i check whether or not it's configured to?
[05:11] <bob2> you need to find out what xine is doing
[05:11] <bob2> andrewski: ls /etc/rc.2/S*samba
[05:12] <snw1972> determinist: You suggested ethtool; how do I use that?
[05:12] <andrewski> bob2: yeah, it's not there.
[05:12] <bob2> andrewski: you can use update-rc.d to restore it
[05:12] <bob2> or just ln
[05:12] <Determinist> snw1972, actually , hypno did , i've never used ethtools , but supposedly they should diagnose ethernet problems
[05:13] <hypno> sudo ethtool eth0 will give you some info
[05:13] <fightingfortofu> im trying to install ut2k4 and the install has a prompt for the second cd but im unable to eject media, device is busy
[05:13] <bread> hi
[05:13] <Dethread> fightingfortofu, unmount it first
[05:13] <bread> hey
[05:14] <fightingfortofu> dethread, how do you unmount? i am rigth clicking the cd on the desktop and selecting eject
[05:14] <bread> do u wanna chat
[05:14] <Dethread> fightingfortofu, in a terminal, type "sudo umount /dev/cdrom"
[05:14] <hypno> fightingfortofu: lsof /dev/cdrom to find out what is using it. If a program has a mounted file open, you can't unmount it.
[05:15] <Mace68> anybody know why my samba transfer speeds are slow as mud? I've getting files from 2 different machines via samba and it's the same on both... slow.
[05:15] <bob2> bread: this isn't a general chat channel
[05:15] <] BreliC[> fightingfortofu, hmm... i had the same problem with UT2004 and there's a website somewhere describing the right way to install it (at least the pain-free way)
[05:15] <fightingfortofu> ] BreliC[, remember the url by chance?
[05:15] <andrewski> bob2: "update-rc.d: warning: /etc/rc2.d/K09samba is not a link to ../init.d/samba"
[05:16] <andrewski> bob2: am i doing it wrong?
[05:16] <fightingfortofu> also, thanks everyone!
[05:16] <snw1972> hypno: I did the sudo ethtool eth0; down at the bottom it implies it thinks the link is ok.
[05:16] <bob2> andrewski: erm
[05:16] <bob2> andrewski: what is it a link to then?
[05:16] <] BreliC[> fightingfortofu, no, that was last year
[05:17] <andrewski> bob2: i don't know; i was just doing 'update-rc.d samba defaults'
[05:17] <stuNNed> bob2: you down under at teh fest?
[05:17] <snw1972> hypno, determinist: I think I'm going to have to sleep on this one and come back tomorrow.  Thanks for the help from both of you!
[05:18] <hypno> snw1972: no problem
[05:18] <Determinist> snw1972, most welcome mate , sorry it didnt work out tho :)
[05:18] <bob2> andrewski: 'ls -l /etc/rc2.d/K09samba' prints what?
[05:18] <bob2> stuNNed: yes
[05:18] <bob2> where fest = work
[05:19] <andrewski> bob2: /etc/rc2.d/K09samba -> /samba
[05:19] <bob2> blah
[05:19] <snw1972> Maybe I'll go back to warty and see if the network comes back.  If it does seem to be tied to the OS version; what would I do next?
[05:19] <bob2> you've been cracked for very sloppy
[05:19] <hypno> snw1972: do you know what driver your net card uses?
[05:20] <stuNNed> bob2: awesome, wish i was there
[05:20] <snw1972> hypno: I have no idea.  How would I find out?
[05:20] <bob2> andrewski: delete that link
[05:20] <hypno> snw1972: dmesg | grep eth0 might show it
[05:21] <kg6gfq_> srry, didn't see if there was an answer to my question about where to find tgz's for the ubuntu amd64 kernel
[05:21] <andrewski> bob2: ah, ok.  now it worked.
[05:21] <bob2> kg6gfq_: ...
[05:21] <bob2> kg6gfq_: in the kernel-source package
[05:21] <bob2> kg6gfq_: but why?
[05:21] <kg6gfq_> need them to compile wifi drivers
[05:21] <andrewski> bob2: and i could replace samba with any service i wanted to add to boot?
[05:22] <bob2> kg6gfq_: no, you don't.  what driver are you trying to compile?
[05:22] <bob2> andrewski: well, yes, except that anything you install will be setup to start on boot automatically
[05:22] <kg6gfq_> rt2500
[05:22] <andrewski> bob2: well, i had edited one to be a different service and couldn't figure out how to switch to that one.  but i got it now, thanks. :)
[05:23] <thundrcleeze> How do I change the default web browser?  Konqueror shows up, and I want it to be firefox when I click a link.
[05:23] <bob2> kg6gfq_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[05:24] <hypno> thundrcleeze: kde apps will default to konqueror. You can probably use kcontrol to change it
[05:24] <kg6gfq_> thanks
[05:24] <thundrcleeze> Xchat isn't a kde app, is it?
[05:24] <andrewski> thundrcleeze: no, konversation is.
[05:24] <dell500> iv'e got a raid array, but i'm not sure how to mount it
[05:25] <snw1972> hypno: Wow that has a lot of things go by.  lots of things like e100: eth0: transmit timed out
[05:25] <thundrcleeze> yes, but I'm not running kde right now, I'm running gnome.
[05:25] <hypno> snw1972: sounds cable like to me
[05:25] <snw1972> hypno: Both cables?
[05:25] <andrewski> thundrcleeze: preferred applications in the gnome control center?
[05:25] <hypno> both?
[05:26] <snw1972> hypno: Awhile back I switched cables.
[05:26] <thundrcleeze> andrewski, it's set to firefox.
[05:26] <guruff> question about hotplug daemon: it starts in rcS and then is killed? or is running somewhere in the background all the time ?
[05:26] <andrewski> thundrcleeze: which app are you running that starts konq?
[05:27] <bob2> guruff: the kernel calls it when things happen
[05:27] <bob2> guruff: don't mess with it, basically
[05:27] <thundrcleeze> andrewski: right now?  Xchat.
[05:27] <andrewski> thundrcleeze: xchat has its own configuration for web browser launching.
[05:27] <hypno> snw1972: only thing i've seen to cause that is a low level hardware problem of some sort. Unlikely to be a config or driver issue.
[05:27] <andrewski> thundrcleeze: any others?
[05:27] <guruff> bob2; when what happens? every n seconds to check if there is no device connected; or when external int is rised?
[05:28] <snw1972> hypno: I'll try warty tomorrow and see what happens. Thanks again!
[05:28] <bob2> guruff: when the kernel decides something has been hotpluged. I guess the usb controller raises an interupt, or the pcihp controller, or whatever
[05:28] <RRubin> hrm is there a trick to getting flash sounds to work?
[05:28] <thundrcleeze> andrewski: Yes, I've found it in settings -> advanced.
[05:28] <nickrud> thundrcleeze, andrewski the way to control what browser is loaded is to update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[05:28] <guruff> hmmm... ok
[05:28] <guruff> bob2; thx
[05:29] <andrewski> nickrud: yes, but when is that actually used?
[05:29] <nickrud> when someting calls debian-sensible-browser
[05:29] <andrewski> nickrud: yes, but what does? :P
[05:29] <dell500> does anyone here know how to mount an exisiting raid0 array into ubuntu??
[05:29] <thundrcleeze> andrewski, xchat does
[05:30] <andrewski> thundrcleeze: hmm.
[05:30] <bob2> dell500: you need to give way more details
[05:30] <nickrud> andrewski, /etc/alternatives is a means for controlling what the default program for various functions
[05:30] <bob2> dell500: do you mean "Does anyone know how to mount an existing linux software raid-0 array?"?
[05:30] <thundrcleeze> andrewski, it supports most browsers, but the default "Open in web browser" calls that.
[05:30] <andrewski> nickrud: user-specific or system-wide?
[05:31] <nickrud> system-wide
[05:31] <andrewski> nickrud: yeah, that's not so good....
[05:31] <thechitowncubs> are there any decent games that can be played over LAN
[05:31] <thechitowncubs> none that are too intensive though
[05:32] <nickrud> andrewski, that can be true if more than one use the system
[05:32] <dell500> bob2, yessum :)
[05:32] <dell500> i need to find what dev it's on and then i think i can modify /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> bob2, et al UBUNTU ROCKS suse's socks off
[05:32] <thechitowncubs> lol
[05:32] <nickrud> if only one uses the system, it gives you a means of controlling what is run, wherever you are
[05:32] <sagara> is there someone who knows a lot about using matching patterns with grep here?
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> i thought the new suse 9.3 was going to be slick... well it sx
[05:32] <thechitowncubs> Any games good over LAN?
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> bzflag
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> Enemy Territory
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> free*
[05:33] <thechitowncubs> i don't think my sister's comp can handle that
[05:33] <nickrud> andrewski, and it's nearly always the reason the program you expect to run is not run.
[05:33] <thechitowncubs> specs are only 500mhz
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:33] <thechitowncubs> =(
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> kbattleship
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> it is low end network game
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> kinda fun too
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> with sounds on both ends
[05:34] <WW> sagara: That depends on what you mean by "a lot".  Ask your question and you'll find out :)
[05:34] <thechitowncubs> sweet
[05:34] <thechitowncubs> thanks
[05:34] <aldug> occy: I had to compile it, I couldn't find a package anywhere
[05:34] <thechitowncubs> ah crap, kde
[05:35] <sagara> well here is my issue
[05:35] <sagara> i have a line that looks like this
[05:35] <sagara> 06:59:41.953943 blah blah blah
[05:36] <tjs> how do you do a for loop in a deb rules file?
[05:36] <sagara> the time (06:59:41) changes in every file i work with... what i want to do is basically string tokenize that guy and extrat the time (in that case it would be 06:59:41)
[05:36] <tjs> its run with make I believe
[05:36] <sagara> all of this in Cshell
[05:37] <thechitowncubs> KDE needs to cut down on all the bloat
[05:38] <hypno> sagara: grep is better at getting whole lines. For your job i'd use cut
[05:38] <tjs> thechitowncubs: have you written a linux desktop? or even a WM? people who say stuff like that rarely have contributed anything themselves
[05:38] <chavo> thechitowncubs, haven't used KDE in a while, have you?
[05:38] <hypno> sagara: something like cut -d "." -f 1
[05:38] <thechitowncubs> tjs: actually i made linux =P
[05:39] <sagara> let me look into that command
[05:39] <tjs> hahaha
[05:39] <RRubin> thechitowncubs: there are millions of minimalistic wms. try googleing for ios
[05:39] <tjs> ion3 is a good minimalistic 'wm'
[05:39] <chillywilly> hey people anyone ever get this with marillat's mplayer: mplayer: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libavcodec.so.0: undefined symbol: NeAACDecOpen ?
[05:39] <RRubin> ion, thats what i ment
[05:40] <thechitowncubs> RRubin: I like Gnome
[05:40] <thechitowncubs> clean and efficient
[05:40] <dell500> so does anyone know how to mount an already existing linux raid array??
[05:40] <thechitowncubs> it could be a tad faster though
[05:40] <Fanglez> anyone in Oz order ubuntu cd's know how long they take to get here?
[05:40] <RRubin> thechitowncubs: ubuntu gnome is ok.
[05:41] <thechitowncubs> RRubin: I love gnome and ubuntu
[05:41] <tjs> Fanglez: I ordered some warty ones back when they first came out. they took about 3 weeks to arrive, i ordered some hoary ones about a week ago and they have not arrived yet. Im in hobart
[05:41] <sagara> hypno: ^_^ awesome!!! thanks a lot hypno, you just saved me a lot of work trying to get grep to work
[05:41] <hypno> sagara: no prob
[05:41] <Fanglez> I'm in Melbourne and drooling. The latest live image worked so well I want to badger others into it
[05:42] <sagara> hypno can i pm you?
[05:42] <hypno> sure
[05:48] <RRubin> thechitowncubs: on other distros, kde's value is that 'everything just works', without ubuntu gnome can suck
[05:54] <cens0red> aside from openoffice-writer, and kword, there's another quite good OS word processor. What's its name again?
[05:54] <jsubl2> abiword
[05:54] <inc> sup channel
[05:54] <cens0red> jsubl2 thanx that's the one!
[05:55] <inc> anyone have prob with apps crashing in hoary?
[05:56] <FeJaOr> can anybody help me on uninstall a 3rd party program??
[05:56] <FeJaOr> I got problems installing a software for my PSC 1210 and now I have bunch of errors and stuff
[05:56] <inc> FeJaOr, how you install it?
[05:57] <FeJaOr> inc, I was following the instructions but something went wrong that didn't let me to finish the installation
[05:57] <FeJaOr> inc, and now I don't have the software properly installed and a bunch of errors
[05:58] <inc> FeJaOr, kinda low on the details
[05:58] <inc> you use deb or compile?
[05:58] <inc> what kind of software
[05:58] <hornblower> hey all
[05:59] <FeJaOr> inc, compile....a software for my printer (HP PSC 1210)
[05:59] <dell500> does anyone know how to mount an already existing linux raid array??
[06:00] <inc> can't recompile?
[06:00] <hornblower> i'm getting error 21 on boot with grub, and lilo won't install at all... i've read up and found that this is because of cmos settings in bios, but I thought maybe someone here might know if it could be caused by something else before I start altering bios settings?
[06:00] <hornblower> I got no floppies, or i'd just make a boot disk and forget the loader alltogether...
[06:00] <FeJaOr> inc, I downloaded the latest driver and software from the webpage but got errors when compiling it and now Im on the middle of the installation and can't go any further and can't go back either
[06:02] <FeJaOr> inc, and now I can't delete either the program or the folder with all the installation files
[06:04] <FeJaOr> HELPPPP
[06:04] <|QuaD-> FeJaOr: HELPPP
[06:05] <closure> i have a question
[06:05] <Jerub> how do I get ubuntu to run a command after login?
[06:05] <dell500> raid? anyone!? does anyone know??!
[06:06] <FeJaOr> |QuaD-, I have this problem
[06:06] <FeJaOr> |QuaD-, I got problems installing a software for my PSC 1210 and now I have bunch of errors and stuff
[06:06] <FeJaOr> |QuaD-, I downloaded the latest driver and software from the webpage but got errors when compiling it and now Im on the middle of the installation and can't go any further and can't go back either
[06:06] <FeJaOr> |QuaD-, and now I can't delete either the program or the folder with all the installation files
[06:07] <|QuaD-> FeJaOr: oh. interesting
[06:07] <juez> hi
[06:07] <juez> anyone there?
[06:08] <juez> ???
[06:08] <|QuaD-> i am
[06:08] <nickrud> juez, yeah, just sleepy ;)
[06:08] <juez> i need help getting a linksys WUSBG54 running
[06:08] <juez> i installed ndiswrapper
[06:09] <FeJaOr> |QuaD-, can you help me out with this problem??
[06:09] <juez> but i cant make ndiswrapper to get the drivers :S
[06:09] <|QuaD-> FeJaOr: no
[06:09] <Nalioth> FeJaOr, are you familiar with linux?
[06:09] <juez> juez@Oscar:~$ sudo  ndiswrapper -i /home/juez/desktop/wusb54g.cat
[06:09] <juez> Installing wusb54g.cat
[06:09] <juez> cp: no se puede efectuar `stat' sobre /home/juez/desktop/wusb54g.cat: No existe el fichero o el directorio
[06:09] <FeJaOr> Nalioth, so so
[06:10] <FeJaOr> Nalioth, why??
[06:10] <juez> anyone can help me?
[06:10] <hypno> juez: try Desktop ..?
[06:11] <dell500> does anyone know how to mount an already existing linux raid array??
[06:12] <HrdwrBoB> dell500: the same way you mounted it before
[06:12] <nickrud> hypno, juez and here i thought the language would be a problem, & it's the captialization :)
[06:12] <HrdwrBoB> with mdadm
[06:12] <juez> i tried with Desktop
[06:13] <juez> but still the same problem :S
[06:13] <mooniker> does anyone know a good tutorial for seting up network interfaces? i'm a relative newbie and the man pages are too complicated for me.
[06:13] <juez> juez@Oscar:~$ sudo  ndiswrapper -l
[06:13] <juez> Installed ndis drivers:
[06:13] <juez> wusb54g invalid driver!
[06:13] <pimaniac> ndiswrapper should be run on an .inf file
[06:14] <juez> yes
[06:14] <juez> look
[06:14] <pimaniac> mooniker:  if it works when you plug into a mac or windows box, type "sudo dhclient"
[06:14] <juez> juez@Oscar:~$ sudo  ndiswrapper -i /home/juez/Desktop/wusb54g.inf
[06:14] <juez> Installing wusb54g
[06:14] <juez> cp: no se puede efectuar `stat' sobre /home/juez/Desktop/wusb54g.inf: No existe el fichero o el directorio
[06:14] <juez> juez@Oscar:~$ sudo  ndiswrapper -l
[06:14] <juez> Installed ndis drivers:
[06:14] <juez> wusb54g invalid driver!
[06:14] <RRubin> juez: is the driver from the ndiswrapper 'known working list' ?
[06:14] <drcodedd2> Hi all
[06:14] <drcodedd2> how I can put script to run after ubuntu boot?
[06:14] <mooniker> dhclient...
[06:14] <juez> yes it is in the working list
[06:15] <RRubin> juez: and you got it from where it says?
[06:15] <AMD> i've got a question, i'm a n00b and am trying to get totem movie player to run, but everytime i try to start it, and error message comes up
[06:15] <juez> ndiswrapper or the driver?
[06:15] <RRubin> juez: the driver
[06:15] <juez> form the lynksis page, from the link that appears on the list of supported cards by ndiswrapper
[06:15] <nickrud> AMD, and the error is .....
[06:16] <RRubin> juez: hrm. maybe you should try version 1.1
[06:16] <AMD> Resource busy or unavailable
[06:16] <RRubin> juez: i had to compile it when ubuntu's version didnt work for me
[06:16] <juez> of ndiswrapper? i got it from: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper -utils
[06:16] <juez> that downloaded the latest version, no?
[06:17] <nickrud> AMD, what does lsof | grep /dev/dsp say?
[06:17] <AMD> nickrud: type that in terminal?
[06:17] <nickrud> AMD, yes
[06:17] <RRubin> juez: no. i found some debian from source instructions on their site that worked for me to get 1.1
[06:17] <mierda> alguien habla espaol ?
[06:17] <juez> then how i do that?
[06:17] <juez> yo :D
[06:18] <mierda> :D
[06:18] <mierda> me puede ayudar ?
[06:18] <pimaniac> enough to be offended by the nick :-p
[06:18] <juez> jajjajajaja
[06:18] <RRubin> juez: get ndiswrapper-source_1.1-1_i386.deb
[06:18] <juez> de q? yo no c mucho
[06:18] <Nalioth> FeJaOr, what problems are u experienceing?
[06:18] <juez> with apt?
[06:18] <AMD> nickrud: esd       6737    buulian    5w      CHR       14,3               6640 /dev/dsp
[06:18] <dell500> HrdwrBoB, well the last time i did it, i edited the mdraid file, but that's not there anymore
[06:19] <RRubin> juez: no, i forget but i think i d/l'd it from someones site
[06:19] <HrdwrBoB> try /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf iirc
[06:19] <dell500> HrdwrBoB, if i edit that, and then mount the /dev/md0, would that work??
[06:19] <juez> ok i got that file
[06:19] <juez> now what should i do?
[06:19] <HrdwrBoB> if you edit that
[06:20] <HrdwrBoB> and then run the correct mdadm command
[06:20] <HrdwrBoB> it should work
[06:20] <HrdwrBoB> look up some documentation on google
[06:20] <juez> RRubin: ?
[06:20] <RRubin> juez: install it, it should show up in /usr/src
[06:20] <juez> :s how do i install it? :(
[06:20] <mierda> alguien que hable espaol me ayude ?
[06:20] <dell500> HrdwrBoB, i found a REALLY difficult way to do it with the kernal pkg, but it has to be supported already
[06:20] <RRubin> juez: look for the step by step on there wiki
[06:20] <pimaniac> mierda: si.  un poco
[06:20] <nickrud> AMD, I hate to do this, but ... it's late here, and i have to bail. I was hoping it was a quick fix, and i'm sorry.
[06:20] <juez> :S it has 2 tar.gz
[06:21] <AMD> no worries
[06:21] <juez> and a debian bynari
[06:21] <RRubin> juez: you untar it and go into the dir and run like, debian/rules modules
[06:21] <RRubin> somethin like that
[06:21] <mierda> pimaniac  lo que pasa es quecambie la pantalla de inicio del ununtu y no me cargo entonces no me carga el escritorio :S
[06:21] <nickrud> AMD, I'll be around again tomorrow, if i can help with anything, just ask, and i'll try
[06:21] <AMD> ok
[06:21] <RRubin> it unpacks in /usr/src/modules/ndiswrapper/
[06:21] <juez> i dont understand nothing :D:D:D:D
[06:21] <AMD> i'm just having nothing but troubles with linux programs
[06:21] <juez> anything
[06:22] <RRubin> juez: your gonna have to find the directions on the site. i did it 2 weeks ago
[06:22] <juez> on what site?
[06:22] <RRubin> ndiswrappers site. use google man.
[06:23] <RRubin> juez: if you just want it to work and dont care how, you can have my binary .debs tho it would be silly of you to trust them
[06:23] <pimaniac> mierda: hay un error?
[06:23] <mierda> pimaniac  seee
[06:23] <mierda> esto me sale
[06:24] <AMD> why can't i run .bin files
[06:24] <AMD> they just won't run
[06:24] <juez> i know ;)
[06:24] <RRubin> amd: chmod u+x file.bin ?
[06:24] <AMD> oh
[06:24] <AMD> and then what?
[06:24] <RRubin> amd: ./file.bin
[06:24] <pimaniac> mierda.  lo ciento.  mi espanol es muy malo.  que?
[06:24] <AMD> ok
[06:24] <Nalioth> AMD execute them
[06:25] <mierda> pimaniac /usr/share/gdm/themes/bluecurve/rh_logo_header.png es te fichero o directorio no esxiste
[06:25] <pimaniac> ah
[06:25] <pimaniac> ok
[06:25] <mierda> como lo puedo cambiar de alguna forma ?
[06:25] <Nalioth> AMD you can write a text file, and with chmod turn it into an executable (cant be done on windoze)
[06:26] <juez> ubuntu doesnt let me modify the apt sources list
[06:26] <EnterD> http://nutsack.com/
[06:26] <juez> how do i change it?
[06:26] <Nalioth> juez sure it does
[06:26] <RRubin> juez: you can change it from
[06:26] <pimaniac> mierda: puede tecleo derecho en el escritorio?
[06:26] <phenotype_> anyone know of problems with laptop batteries
[06:26] <juez> it opnes it like a read only file
[06:26] <RRubin> synaptic
[06:26] <RRubin> are you using sudo?
[06:26] <Nalioth> juez you have to sudo your text editor
[06:26] <pimaniac> phenotype:  it cant detect my charge in gnome, just kde :)
[06:26] <mierda> pimaniac  esque estoy en consola
[06:26] <juez> ??'
[06:27] <phenotype_> kde detects it?
[06:27] <juez> how?
[06:27] <phenotype_> im using gnome
[06:27] <AMD> thank you so much rrubin
[06:27] <RRubin> amd: no prob
[06:27] <hypno> mierda: puedes cambiar el theme de la pantalla de inicio en /etc/gdm/gdm.conf Busca a "GraphicalTheme"
[06:27] <juez> how do i sudo the text editor?
[06:27] <phenotype_> pimaniac, gnome problems with battery?
[06:27] <mierda> okis
[06:27] <pimaniac> hypno: gracias.  no lo se.
[06:27] <mierda> gracias
[06:28] <mierda> thanks
[06:28] <pimaniac> phenotype: not serious, just not able to see charge
[06:28] <juez> ??? :(
[06:28] <phenotype_> yea
[06:28] <pimaniac> juez:  sudo nano
[06:28] <phenotype_> but kde detects it ok?
[06:28] <pimaniac> juez: will open nano with root priveleges
[06:29] <pimaniac> phenotype:  yep yep.  not ubuntu specific, just gnome-battery doesnt like me
[06:29] <juez> hmmm ok...
[06:29] <phenotype_> interesting
[06:29] <phenotype_> thx
[06:30] <FeJaOr> can anybody help me on uninstalling the software program I downloaded and tried to install from the HP website??
[06:30] <Levander> What's the easy way to get gnome to remember the size that I like my gnome-terminals to open up as?  Is the best bet still .Xresources?
[06:31] <juez> how do i save changes?
[06:31] <Nalioth> FeJaOr, what exactly happened?
[06:31] <pimaniac> juez: Ctrl X will exit, it will ask to save changes
[06:31] <juez> k
[06:31] <FeJaOr> Nalioth, I downloaded the most recent driver/software for my HP PSC 1210 from the website
[06:32] <Nalioth> juez, nano is self-explanatory  the litte "^" at the bottom stands for the <ctrl> key
[06:32] <Nalioth> FeJaOr, what did it do to make you come here?
[06:32] <FeJaOr> Nalioth, I followed the instructions on how to install the software and now im up to the point I have the "software installed" but can't oppened cause it marks an error and I can't delete the folder with the original installation file either
[06:33] <Nalioth> FeJaOr, how have you tried to del?
[06:33] <FeJaOr> Nalioth, and I don't want to reinstall ubuntu just because of that
[06:33] <AMD> rrubin: i've installed the program, however the permission to read is not available
[06:33] <juez> ok
[06:33] <juez> fuck
[06:34] <juez> im tired
[06:34] <juez> i just wont get the wireless card run :S
[06:34] <juez> bye and thx for ur help :)
[06:34] <Nalioth> juez linux is rewarding, if you give it a little patience
[06:34] <FeJaOr> Nalioth, I have the folder in the desktop and move it to the trash ..... when I tried to empty the trash, bunch of errors come up
[06:35] <juez> its impossible to get my usb card to work :S
[06:35] <Nalioth> FeJaOr, i take it u want to del the folder? if so, move it back onto the desktop...
[06:35] <FeJaOr> juez, don't worry....I haven't got my fax modem work yet
[06:35] <juez> hahahahah ok ;) but u got internet :S
[06:35] <FeJaOr> Nalioth, done
[06:35] <FeJaOr> that's right :)
[06:35] <juez> i dont want to throw cables, i want wireless
[06:35] <AMD> RRubin: how do you change the permissions if you aren't the owner?
[06:36] <juez> bye
[06:37] <gp_aaron|win2k> does this distro use default debian repos?
[06:37] <Jerub> gp_aaron|win2k: no
[06:37] <gp_aaron|win2k> can it use them?
[06:37] <|QuaD-> gp_aaron|win2k: why would you want to
[06:38] <Amaranth> gp_aaron|win2k: I wouldn't.
[06:38] <sandyeggoboy> hi there everyone ...
[06:38] <Amaranth> gp_aaron|win2k: What do you need from Debian that Ubuntu doesn't have?
[06:38] <gp_aaron|win2k> can you use synaptic with the ubuntu repos?
[06:39] <sandyeggoboy> I am having a problem with my dell 1501FP LCD monitor not going past 800x600 resolution .. i need it to go to 1024x768. I have tried to "dpkg-reconfiguire xserver-xorg" but then it says it cannot display this screen size. What else can i try?
[06:39] <Amaranth> Yeah, System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[06:39] <gp_aaron|win2k> nice
[06:39] <dell500> yes!!!
[06:40] <gp_aaron|win2k> how are the repos?
[06:40] <gp_aaron|win2k> reliable?
[06:40] <bob2> for main, of course
[06:40] <bob2> for universe, it depends
[06:40] <gp_aaron|win2k> what are those?
[06:40] <AMD> can anyone direct me in how to change file permissions? I am not the owner though
[06:41] <bob2> AMD: is it your machine?
[06:41] <bob2> gp_aaron|win2k: main is the supported part of ubuntu, universe is the unsupported part that's mostly identical to stuff in debian
[06:41] <AMD> bob2: as far as performance, or the name?
[06:41] <AMD> bob2: sorry n00b
[06:41] <bob2> AMD: ?
[06:41] <gp_aaron|win2k> bob2, oh thanks
[06:41] <bob2> AMD: Do you own the computer you're trying to change the permissions on?
[06:42] <AMD> yes, just not the file
[06:42] <gp_aaron|win2k> does it have alot of the choices in the repos?
[06:42] <RRubin> amd: use sudo
[06:42] <AMD> it is set to where the permissions are all messed up, by the owner, no one can read it
[06:42] <gp_aaron|win2k> how does it compare to standard debian repos?
[06:42] <dell500> after doing assembling a raid array (mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sda /dev/sdb) what's next?
[06:43] <RRubin> gp_aaron|win2k: most of deb stuff is available
[06:43] <bob2> AMD: sudo chown a+r /filename
[06:43] <bob2> gp_aaron|win2k: universe has basically everything from debian
[06:43] <gp_aaron|win2k> oh
[06:43] <gp_aaron|win2k> does apache come default?
[06:43] <bob2> of course not
[06:44] <phenotype_> anyone know where i can get bin of kde
[06:44] <bob2> nothing listens on external ports by default
[06:44] <Amaranth> No open ports on the default install.
[06:44] <AMD> bob2: chown: 'a+r': invalid user
[06:44] <revelater> i need help getting through a windows password screen without any additional software
[06:44] <bob2> but apache2 is supported
[06:44] <bob2> AMD: er, chmod, not chown, sorry
[06:44] <dell500> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:44] <bob2> phenotype_: #kubuntu
[06:44] <AMD> no worries
[06:44] <Amaranth> revelater: windows password screen?
[06:44] <phenotype_> thx
[06:44] <bob2> revelater: this is not a cracking channel, sorry
[06:44] <Amaranth> Oh, get through it.
[06:44] <revelater> could yuo *cough* point the way *cough*
[06:45] <bob2> revelater: no
[06:45] <Amaranth> Actually, that isn't even possible unless you can boot from CD or floppy.
[06:45] <bob2> revelater: do not ask again
[06:45] <Amaranth> If you can, go find it yourself.
[06:45] <cens0red> anyone know where evolution stores its attachments? I've just received three emails with like 7 attachments each ... I don't want to go through the process of selecting "Save As" for each one.
[06:45] <Nalioth> revelator why do you want into windoze?
[06:46] <Nalioth> revelater, let the SOB stay locked
[06:46] <AMD> bob2: it still wont let me execute it, none of the little boxes are high lighted
[06:46] <revelater> SOB?
[06:47] <AMD> the permission says 777 but none of the permission boxes are filled
[06:47] <Nalioth> windoze IMO SUCKS!
[06:47] <RRubin> amd: boxes?
[06:47] <Nalioth> revelater, let it stay locked, ther's nothing good inside
[06:47] <revelater> i see, well its for a friend, his parents locked him out of his computer
[06:47] <AMD> the option thing under the preferences
[06:47] <Nalioth> revelater, nothing but horror
[06:47] <bob2> AMD: what sort of file is it?
[06:47] <revelater> and there is internet access
[06:47] <AMD> .bin
[06:47] <revelater> whats life without pron?
[06:47] <AMD> it won't allow execution
[06:48] <bob2> AMD: er
[06:48] <Nalioth> so use a knoppix or ubnuntu live cd
[06:48] <bob2> AMD: what is the file, really?
[06:48] <revelater> (a whole lot better no doubt)
[06:48] <Nalioth> the parents will never know (s)he was surfing pR0n
[06:48] <dell500> how do i diagnose sound problems??
[06:48] <AMD> realplayer.bin
[06:48] <dell500> is there an app??
[06:48] <AMD> it's Real Player 10
[06:48] <RRubin> AMD: its in your home dir?
[06:48] <revelater> Nalioth: problem is he needs it now, and has no way of getting extra software
[06:48] <AMD> yeah
[06:49] <RRubin> AMD: ls -l realplayer.bin
[06:49] <netfighter> Hello people
[06:49] <AMD> the main thing is that I'm not the "owner" of the file
[06:49] <RRubin> amd: paste the results
[06:49] <AMD> i'll try
[06:49] <Nalioth> revelater, he's screwed. take him to your house
[06:49] <bread> hey
[06:49] <revelater> Nalioth: lol
[06:49] <gp_aaron|win2k> revelater, sam file hacking
[06:49] <netfighter> If I add the unofficial repositories (such as Marillat & Universe), I can break my Ubuntu distro, right?
[06:49] <gp_aaron|win2k> but I'm not gona tell you how to do that
[06:49] <bread> do what
[06:50] <revelater> gp_aaron|win2k: can you tell me where i need to go to learn how to do that???
[06:50] <bob2> netfighter: yes
[06:50] <AMD> bob2: -rwxrwxrwx  1<PHONE_NUMBER>12 2005-04-01 16:52 realplay.bin
[06:50] <bob2> netfighter: well, universe is unlikely to
[06:50] <gp_aaron|win2k> google
[06:50] <bob2> AMD: blah
[06:50] <Nalioth> revelater, he just told you all you need to know
[06:50] <AMD> yeah?
[06:50] <bob2> AMD: you need to find out what the file actually is and what you're supposed to do with it
[06:50] <AMD> it is the program itself
[06:50] <bob2> it really came with NO instructions at all?
[06:50] <bob2> AMD: what does 'file realplay.bin' say?
[06:51] <netfighter> bob2 so how can I add just a specific pkg from those repos without updating everything? Like, is there a way to do it from the Cmd line?
[06:51] <RRubin> AMD: how'd you get it?
[06:51] <RRubin> it seems to be owned by someone who doesnt exist
[06:51] <bob2> netfighter: just put them in your sources.list, install whatever, then remove it
[06:51] <AMD> i installed it, from another .bin and everything went fine untill i tried to run it
[06:51] <bob2> 14:50:57           bob2 | AMD: what does 'file realplay.bin' say?
[06:51] <netfighter> bob2,  thanks
[06:52] <RRubin> AMD: man chown
[06:52] <AMD> bob2: realplay.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[06:52] <bob2> lord
[06:52] <bob2> AMD: what filesystem have you put it on?
[06:52] <bob2> it seems broken
[06:53] <RRubin> AMD: you need to (using sudo) change the owner and group to yourself
[06:53] <abbot45> is PAN the best newsreader for linux?
[06:53] <Nalioth> revelator, this will teach you to never leave the house w/o a knoppix disk
[06:53] <bob2> abbot45: "best" is subjective
[06:53] <Nalioth> abbot45 are there other newsreaders for linux?
[06:53] <bob2> abbot45: it is pretty popular, tho
[06:53] <abbot45> haha.  i guess.
[06:53] <bread> can anybody tell me how to update gaim?
[06:53] <AMD> bob2: ok, how do you change the owner and group to myself using sudo?
[06:54] <bob2> Nalioth: slrn
[06:54] <abbot45> ive been using it for a bit.  but can you use it to post binaries???
[06:54] <gp_aaron|win2k> bread, apt-get update
[06:54] <RRubin> amd: man chown
[06:54] <abbot45> or do you need something else for that?
[06:54] <bob2> AMD: sudo chown you:you filename
[06:54] <bob2> abbot45: what sort of binaries do you want to post?
[06:55] <Nalioth> bob2 is that easy to read?
[06:55] <bob2> Nalioth: do you use mutt?
[06:55] <Nalioth> bob2 does it d/l mutlipart pR0n, er, helpful binaries?
[06:55] <bob2> lord
[06:55] <Nalioth> bob2 the only mutt in my life, is sitting at my feet right now
[06:55] <bread> gp_aaron, having a little trouble
[06:56] <bread> i ran that command from terminal and i got unable to lock
[06:56] <abbot45> bob2: a dj mix of mine.  id like to cut it up into rars first though, and all that.
[06:56] <bob2> ignore that
[06:56] <bob2> abbot45: oh man
[06:56] <bob2> abbot45: please don't use rar
[06:56] <bob2> there's enough pointless rar's in the world already
[06:56] <AMD> ok, i did that and and it doesn't work
[06:57] <abbot45> everyone on usenet does everything in rar.
[06:57] <bob2> that's stupid
[06:57] <bob2> AMD: "doesn't work" in what sense
[06:57] <AMD> i'm still not the owner
[06:57] <bob2> AMD: you didn't answer my question before
[06:57] <bob2> AMD: what filesystem is this on?
[06:57] <Tomcat_> rar is better than zip though... if you leave Free Software thoughts aside. :o
[06:57] <bread> can somebody tell me how to update gaim?
[06:57] <bob2> it seems rather screwed up
[06:57] <AMD> it does
[06:58] <bob2> bread: why and to what version?
[06:58] <AMD> i'll try something else
[06:58] <abbot45> what else can you use to cut a large media file into smaller pieces for transfer, then put back together on the other end?
[06:58] <bread> 1.2.1
[06:58] <bread> more features
[06:58] <bob2> abbot45: split
[06:58] <bob2> bread: e.g.?
[06:58] <AMD> but when you said "you:you" do you mean my user name?
[06:58] <Nalioth> bob2 when you get a free minute, i'd like to know more about your experience with slrn
[06:58] <zenrox> abbot45,  zip
[06:58] <smouche> is that rar utility package mentioned in ubuntuguide.org -- um, how shall i put it, legal?
[06:58] <bread> bob2, i am not familiar with that
[06:59] <zerokarmaleft> abbot45, jigdo
[06:59] <bread> i have ubuntu 5.04
[06:59] <bob2> AMD: yes...
[06:59] <smouche> or is it a unsanctioned clone or something?
[06:59] <bob2> AMD: again, what file system is it on?
[06:59] <bread> bob2, r u there?
[06:59] <AMD> ext3
[06:59] <bob2> bread: Why do you want 1.2?
[06:59] <bread> it's the new version
[07:00] <abbot45> zerokarmaleft: what is jigdo?
[07:00] <bread> i have 1.1.4
[07:00] <qqnluaq> hi all...
[07:00] <bread> for bob
[07:00] <bob2> smouche: there are two versions.  one, a completely Free one that works with older rar formats.  then there's unrar-nonfree which is nonfree but supports modern formats better.
[07:00] <bob2> bread: yes, but *why*?  you want it just because it's new?
[07:00] <AMD> bob2: oh wait, i don't have permissions for the folder! maybe that's why it wont work
[07:00] <bread> most of all
[07:00] <Nalioth> bob2 don't forget that 7zip handles rars nowadays and is completely free
[07:00] <bob2> AMD: dude, if someone asks you to run a command, you need to tell us if it gives you an error
[07:01] <AMD> sorry, i'm a newbie
[07:01] <AMD> to linux
[07:01] <zerokarmaleft> abbot45, jigsaw download: http://atterer.net/jigdo/
[07:01] <transgress> wow you'd think people would deem certain things important... like billing receipts...
[07:01] <bob2> Nalioth: didn't know that
[07:01] <bread> bob2, i also need to get familiar with installing programs
[07:01] <AMD> and i'm not getting errors
[07:01] <transgress> but nope
[07:01] <bob2> Nalioth: if you don't know what mutt is, slrn isn't something you're going to like
[07:01] <bread> bob2, i am a ubuntu novice
[07:01] <bob2> AMD: just copy the file to a different permission
[07:01] <smouche> thanks for the info bob2
[07:01] <bob2> bread: I can see that :)
[07:01] <AMD> i'm going to
[07:01] <Nalioth> bob2 i like my command line, but not too much for irc, email, etc
[07:01] <bob2> AMD: er, partition
[07:01] <zerokarmaleft> abbot45, primarily for distributing CD/DVD images, but can be used for any file format...especially large files such as uncompressed audio
[07:02] <bread> bob2, ur great
[07:02] <qqnluaq> can anyone help me with an install problem?
[07:02] <abbot45> ah
[07:02] <Nalioth> bob2 havent gotten too cozy with learning new keystrokes
[07:02] <phenotype_> anyone know if i can simply rotate a firefox image (being used as desktop image)  or should i edit it with an image editor
[07:02] <bread> qqnluaq, shoot
[07:02] <Wammy> How is the support for Linksys wireless cards?
[07:02] <bob2> bread: if you don't have a huge reason to get it, I'd just use the version of gaim in hoary
[07:02] <qqnluaq> i cant get ubuntu or kubuntu to install.. the prev version installed fine..
[07:02] <bob2> bread: getting a newer one requires going to breezy, which is a bad idea
[07:02] <bob2> Wammy: depends on the chipset
[07:02] <bread> i want to have the popup option like msn
[07:02] <Wammy> bob2: how do i find it?
[07:03] <qqnluaq> both of the latest installers crap out, complaining they cant find a volume
[07:03] <zerokarmaleft> abbot45, http://atterer.net/jigdo/
[07:03] <zerokarmaleft> abbot45, oops already gave you that link
[07:03] <bread> then, how could i install mplayer?
[07:03] <bob2> bread: have you installed the gaim-guifications package?
[07:03] <abbot45> haha.  yeah.
[07:03] <bread> nope
[07:03] <bob2> bread: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:03] <stevenj> does anyone here use hoary backports?
[07:03] <smouche> bread, in #ubuntu this evening, a couple of people compiled the new version of gaim for themselves...
[07:03] <bob2> please don't use the backports
[07:03] <bread> installing thins are very difficult when you leave windows
[07:03] <bob2> they're broken and terrible
[07:04] <abbot45> bread: that restrictedformats guide is great
[07:04] <smouche> I can post the log of that chat if you want
[07:04] <stevenj> I have'nt yet
[07:04] <bob2> bread: no, it's very easy...you select what you want from synaptic, and click "install"
[07:04] <smouche> in another channel of course
[07:04] <stevenj> just reading about then
[07:04] <stazich> hey anyone knows how to toggle between channels in BitchX?
[07:05] <bread> bob2, ur the best so far
[07:05] <stevenj> only reason I mentioned backports is that firefox has secuirty fixes and gaim is suppose to fix file transfer (somewhat)
[07:06] <bob2> stevenj: the security issues will be fixed in the version of firefox in hoary
[07:06] <stazich> ls
[07:06] <shad0w1e> how do i add a new user from the console???
[07:06] <stevenj> bob2, ok...I do without updated gaim..I am more concerned with FF really...thanks
[07:07] <transgress> adduser
[07:07] <bob2> stevenj: with the 'adduser' command
[07:07] <Mace68> anybody know why my samba file transfer speeds are slow as mud? I've getting files from 2 different machines via samba and it's the same on both. I'm running on a 100baseT network.
[07:07] <bread> bob2: where's synaptic
[07:07] <shad0w1e> um thanks
[07:07] <abbot45> ive got a problem with my icons.  i put the sets in ~/.icons like they are suppost to be, and they show up in my theme manager list that i can choose from, but when i choose them nothing changes.  any ideas what could be wrong?
[07:07] <transgress> sudo adduser
[07:07] <Mace68> FTP seems ok
[07:07] <bob2> bread: system -> administration menu
[07:07] <drcodedd2> I have 2 qustions
[07:07] <shad0w1e> thanks guys, worked great
[07:07] <stevenj> bob2, when official hoary updates FF- is it best to uninstall first or install over the existing FF
[07:07] <transgress> wb abbot45
[07:08] <abbot45> yo
[07:08] <drcodedd2> 1. Where I can put my Dynamic DNS script so after I boot ubuntu it will update my dynamic dns?
[07:08] <bob2> stevenj: you just let apt or synaptic upgrade it as usual
[07:08] <drcodedd2> 2. I have new hdb that I put / how can I format it into ext3
[07:08] <bob2> drcodedd2: 1) install ddclient and configure it
[07:08] <zerokarmaleft> drcodedd2, bootmisc.sh?
[07:08] <stevenj> bob2, ok...because I used the (Linux) firefox "bug" form fix :) just wondering if that will screw it up
[07:08] <Seveas> drcodedd2, 1) add the command to execute it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[07:08] <Seveas> 2) man mkfs
[07:08] <abbot45> damn.  im gonna have to ask on a forum probably.
[07:09] <drcodedd2> thanx
[07:09] <drcodedd2> thanx alot
[07:09] <drcodedd2> I will check it
[07:09] <bob2> drcodedd2: use 'mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hdb', but be very very careful
[07:09] <drcodedd2> work like a charm
[07:10] <Mace68> is there a place in samba that limits the network transfer speed?
[07:10] <bob2> no
[07:11] <Mace68> what else could cause such slow transfers just under samba, FTP seems to be ok
[07:12] <bread> bob2: gaim isn't on that menu
[07:12] <bob2> bread: you already have gaim installed
[07:12] <bread> bob2: neither is mplayer
[07:12] <bread> yah
[07:12] <bob2> so what are you asking?
[07:12] <bread> what's breezy?
[07:13] <bread> u said don't use it for some reason
[07:13] <abbot45> i think im gonna do away with windows on my notebook again and try to get ndiswrapper to work.  3rd times a charm.
[07:13] <lamont_r> bread: breezy is broken
[07:13] <Mace68> I've tried transfers via samba from both windows and linux boxes to my laptop with the same result.
[07:13] <venkman> yo momma breezy
[07:13] <abbot45> haha
[07:13] <lamont_r> it currently has new versions of lots of stuff, and old versions of lots of other stuff (that need to be merged)...
[07:13] <lamont_r> breezy is 5.10
[07:13] <bob2> bread: breezy is the development release of ubuntu that's very unstable at the moment
[07:13] <lamont_r> or will be
[07:13] <Nalioth> breezy users are likened to white lab rats at this time.....beyond the bleeding edge
[07:13] <bread> k
[07:14] <transgress> heh
[07:14] <bread> bob2: there's several packages, but can't seem to find mplayer
[07:14] <bread> do I need to go and dl the package?
[07:14] <lamont_r> bread: add multiverse to your sources.list
[07:14] <bob2> bread: you need to read the page I told you about
[07:14] <stevenj> I know this is going to sound stupid--in Xchat there is little bar on bottom right corner...actually two bar....the top one changes sometimes---what is it?
[07:15] <lamont_r> bob2: ah, even better
[07:15] <bob2> transgress: no, it's more hardcore than that
[07:15] <transgress> bob2: really?  interesting.
[07:15] <bread> lamont: wheres that located
[07:15] <transgress> bob2: gcc 4.0 in it?
[07:15] <bread> bob2: getting right on it
[07:15] <bob2> transgress: yes
[07:15] <venkman> bob2: I want to be HARDCORE!
[07:15] <transgress> bob2: that is pretty fucking hardcore
[07:15] <lamont_r> bread: on the page bob2 pointed you at
[07:16] <transgress> venkman: you want a broken machine
[07:16] <bread> lamont: ur kind of clever as well, how long have you been using linux
[07:16] <Nalioth> stevenj,  thats your lag meter
[07:16] <venkman> transgress: i want an ubuntu package that just does... rm -rf /
[07:16] <bread> lamont: clever @ linux at least
[07:16] <lamont_r> transgress: it's like this... if the package was changed wrt debian in hoary,then there's a very good chance it hasn't been uploaded yet (merge required).  If it wasn't changed, then the new version is there...
[07:16] <lamont_r> ==> broken
[07:17] <transgress> venkman: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda bs=1mb is better venkman
[07:17] <transgress> no one run that
[07:17] <transgress> please
[07:17] <transgress> i don't need someone pissed at me because they are dumb
[07:17] <lamont_r> bread: been using unix for a great number of years, linux for about 8.
[07:17] <venkman> transgress :)
[07:17] <bread> r u like an older guy
[07:17] <stevenj> Nalioth, usually I can hardly see...it spiked one time...so thanks...I was just wondering
[07:17] <lamont_r> got bored with writing I/O drivers for kernels back in 1990 or so....
[07:18] <bread> i wasn't born long before 1990
[07:18] <venkman> wow
[07:18] <venkman> i feel old
[07:18] <syn1> how do i set my cdrom to set DMA on upon boot?
[07:18] <stevenj> I grad HS in 91
[07:18] <lamont_r> venkman: that happens around here... :-(
[07:19] <synd> how do i set my cdrom to set DMA on upon boot?
[07:19] <venkman> syn, make sure you have a good hdparm script?
[07:19] <synd> venkman: how so?
[07:19] <bread> stevenJ: you graduated a long time ago
[07:19] <stevenj> it seems so
[07:19] <venkman> uh
[07:19] <bread> yep
[07:19] <venkman> vi /etc/hdparm.conf
[07:20] <venkman> i graduated hs in 2k.
[07:20] <bread> is Butchman a good name?
[07:20] <venkman> haha
[07:20] <synd> i grad in 2k4
[07:21] <bread> bread crook graduated in 98
[07:21] <venkman> bread that sounds like.... bitch and butch.
[07:21] <bread> hmmm
[07:21] <bread> not following u
[07:21] <bread> on that
[07:21] <venkman> think lesbians
[07:21] <bread> lol, great
[07:22] <bread> butches are sick
[07:22] <bread> but who cares about that
[07:22] <lamont_r> is off topic here
[07:22] <closure> does anyone know how to execute bitchx-gtk
[07:22] <bread> nope
[07:23] <mcrawfor> yo
[07:23] <bread> lamont_r: glad that you came back
[07:23] <mcrawfor> anyone here use a transmeta processor?
[07:23] <venkman> there's a gtked version of bitchx?
[07:23] <Kanga> hi all
[07:23] <closure> venkman
[07:23] <closure> look in your pkgs
[07:23] <closure> bitchx-gtk
[07:23] <mcrawfor> under warty, my processor scaled with powernowd, but it won't under hoary
[07:23] <Mace68> could someone be so kind as to at least point me in the right direction? I'm stumped, my XP installation crashed today so I installed Ubuntu. I really don't want to go back to XP but I need fast lan transfer speeds.
[07:23] <Kanga> anyone know where i can d/l instructions for partitioning a drive with ubunu?
[07:24] <Kanga> i installed ubuntu but it used up the whole drive for the insatallation'
[07:25] <Nalioth> Kanga, in a terminal type "man cfdisk"
[07:25] <Kanga> nalioth:is that under accesories?
[07:25] <Kanga> very new to ubuntu!
[07:26] <Nalioth> Kanga i guess, i have mine on my upper taskbar and my kubuntu taskbar, too (when i'm in that)
[07:27] <Nalioth> ok time for bed
[07:27] <Kanga> nalioth yeah
[07:27] <Nalioth> y'all be good
[07:27] <Kanga> iv just got up
[07:27] <Nalioth> (or look sweet and innocent)
[07:27] <Kanga> c u
[07:27] <raydogg> how do i make an onboard sound device use the alsa drivers ?
[07:27] <Kanga> anyone know where i can d/l instructions for partitioning a drive with ubunu?
[07:27] <raydogg> kanga, use cfdisk
[07:28] <Mace68> Is my irc client broke? Can anyone see my messages?
[07:28] <bob2> no, it's not broken
[07:28] <Kanga> in a terminal
[07:28] <Kanga> ?
[07:28] <raydogg> kanga, yes
[07:28] <bob2> Mace68: ask in a more approriate place, like #samba
[07:28] <Kanga> ?
[07:28] <raydogg> how do i make an onboard sound device use the alsa drivers ?
[07:29] <Kanga> raydogg: where can i get a online manual for ubuntu]
[07:29] <bob2> raydogg: you don't need to keep repeating
[07:29] <raydogg> Sorry bob
[07:30] <Kanga> hi chris
[07:30] <Mace68> bob2: thanks, i'll try that. Sorry to have pestered you all, I'm fairly new to linux
[07:31] <bob2> Mace68: no problem
[07:31] <Kanga> me too
[07:31] <Levander> Kanga: try ubuntuguide.org
[07:31] <Kanga> ty levandaer
[07:31] <Kanga> bbl
[07:32] <bread> bob2: should I add universe as well as multiverse
[07:32] <bob2> bread: depends what you want to do...might as well
[07:32] <bread> k
[07:33] <arkainium> how can I change the default sound card in a system with multiple sound cards?
[07:33] <bread> bob2: it says can't load all repositories
[07:34] <Levander> bread: how many repositories you got in there?
[07:34] <bread> two
[07:34] <bread> uni and multi
[07:34] <thechitowncubs> What is everyones favorite application for *nix?
[07:34] <Levander> what says it can't load all repositories?  which command?
[07:34] <dws> newbie question: for a fresh hoary install, how do i get an sshd? (and where should i have looked first for an answer?)
[07:34] <scott__> hello
[07:35] <Levander> dws "sudo apt-get install openssh-server", not sure of package name, "apt-cache search ssh" to find out.  Install the server, the client will come with it.
[07:35] <Levander> that was all I had to do to get it here
[07:35] <bread> levander: cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] /dists/hoary/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[07:35] <bread> d
[07:35] <dws> Levander: thanks
[07:35] <Levander> dws: could have tried ubuntuguide.org for that one
[07:35] <bob2> arkainium: you can't, easily...the simplest is to blacklist everything but the one you want to be default
[07:36] <bob2> bread: tell it to not use the cd then
[07:36] <bread> how so
[07:36] <bob2> no idea, I don't use synaptic
[07:36] <bread> bob2: what do you use?
[07:37] <Levander> bread: put your sources.list on pastebin.com, i'll look at it, see if I can find something
[07:37] <bread> i'll try
[07:37] <Levander> it's not hard, just pull it up, is self explanatory
[07:37] <Levander> pull up the URL**
[07:38] <bread> where's source list located?
[07:38] <bob2> bread: aptitude
[07:39] <bob2> Levander: that's not going to help
[07:39] <bread> aptitude?
[07:39] <bob2> Levander: we know what the problem is
[07:39] <Levander> okay, have at it bob2
[07:39] <bob2> the problem is that you don't have the cd in the drive
[07:39] <bread> k
[07:40] <raydogg> how do i add the universe repository via command line ?
[07:41] <bob2> you edit /etc/apt/sources.list manually
[07:41] <abarbaccia> nano /etc/apt/souces.list
[07:41] <raydogg> k
[07:41] <raydogg> thx
[07:41] <abarbaccia> uncomment the lines of code
[07:41] <abarbaccia> then apt-get update
[07:41] <bread> bob2: i put the disk in and it does the same thing
[07:41] <arkainium> bob2, i tried setting the aliases for snd-card-n, etc, but it does nothing.  how can I blacklist?
[07:41] <bob2> arkainium: /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[07:41] <arkainium> bob2, thanks
[07:42] <bread> bob2: ur familiar with windows aren't cha
[07:43] <venkman> i despise hotplug.
[07:44] <bread> levander: is there a way to install programs from GUI?
[07:45] <Levander> bread: i know synaptic does, but I use apt-get on the command-line
[07:46] <raydogg> how can I search like synaptic does ?
[07:46] <raydogg> via cmd line
[07:46] <Levander> apt-cache search <search string>
[07:46] <bread> levander: what comes after apt-get?
[07:46] <raydogg> thx
[07:46] <Airo> man apt-get
[07:47] <bread> levander: u also mean from terminal, right
[07:47] <Levander> bread: there are lots of options after apt-get, have to read the man page
[07:47] <bread> lemme see
[07:48] <Levander> bread:yeah, inside terminal, from command line, same thing
[07:49] <vincent> Anybody get captive working in Hoary?
[07:49] <mae> whats the new ubuntu way for dealing with java in hoary?
[07:49] <jack|h> is there a torrent for the ubuntu 5.04 image?
[07:49] <vincent> (I actually dist-upgraded to Breezy, but I imagine so far it would work for both)
[07:49] <bread> levander: i read the page
[07:49] <bread> levander: i some what understand it
[07:50] <Levander> mae: ubuntuguide.org says that kind of stuff
[07:50] <Levander> bread: okay
[07:50] <jack|h> nevermind, found it
[07:50] <bread> levander: I have gtk+, so could you tell me how the command line would look if i were trying to install
[07:50] <bread> or could it be done from gui
[07:51] <vincent> Anybody?  Captive-ntfs in hoary/breezy?    I get an error with premod
[07:53] <vincent> prepmod
[07:53] <bread> i was trying to install mplayer
[07:53] <bob2> bread: (you already have it installed, btw)
[07:53] <bread> and it says i need it
[07:53] <bob2> bread: dude, just read the wiki page
[07:53] <Levander> vincent: no, sorry, never even heard of captive
[07:53] <bob2> vincent: try their user list or something, I guess
[07:53] <bob2> vincent: or the ubuntu user list
[07:53] <bread> i did
[07:53] <Netsnipe> could someone send me a screenshot of the ubuntu wireless configure tool?
[07:54] <Levander> bread: ubuntuguide.org - make sure you read the one for hoary, version 5.04
[07:54] <Levander> bread: it says how to install mplayer
[07:54] <bob2> bread: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:54] <bob2> bread: where on there does it tell you to care about gtk?
[07:54] <Levander> bread: in the old version, warty, you used to have to install those libraries manually, not anymore
[07:54] <vincent> Okay then, thanks :)
[07:55] <vincent> Levander: BTW, captive-ntfs is a module that allows Linux to write to NTFS partitions
[07:55] <Levander> vincent: okay, thanks vincent
[07:55] <bob2> it's a module that lets linux load the Windows NT NTFS kernel module, more or less
[07:55] <wbeck85> but is ntfs writing in linux safe?
[07:55] <kkamrani> hellow
[07:55] <vincent> Levander: I had it working on Fedora Core, but there's less support for it in Ubuntu/debian in general.  Apparently.
[07:56] <thechitowncubs> Is there any way to search in Beep-Media-Player
[07:56] <bob2> wbeck85: with captive-ntfs, you're more or less letting windows write to the disk, not linux
[07:56] <bob2> thechitowncubs: j?
[07:56] <vincent> wbeck85: Yeah, with captive NTFS it's fine
[07:56] <wbeck85> oh
[07:56] <Levander> vincent: yeah, I don't need it here, I use samba to talk between the systems over a LAN
[07:56] <wbeck85> interesting
[07:56] <wbeck85> cool
[07:56] <thechitowncubs> j?
[07:56] <Kanga> hi all seems a bit silly to put an ubuntu guide in a file format thats is not recognised by windows as people who need the guide will not be using ubuntu as their main o/s
[07:56] <bob2> thechitowncubs: the j key...
[07:56] <vincent> Levander:  The only reason I really want it is because Anarchy Online needs write access, so it doesn't work under Wine
[07:57] <bob2> Kanga: talk to whoever wrote it
[07:57] <thechitowncubs> oh wow
[07:57] <Kanga> ta bob dont u agree
[07:57] <Levander> vincent: okay, cool
[07:57] <vincent> Anyway thanks all
[07:57] <vincent> adios
[07:57] <bob2> if IE really doesn't handle xhtml, then that is just funny
[07:57] <mae> Levander: thats the sloppy manual way, how is ubuntu managing java with apt? . warty had dummy packages . . .
[07:57] <thechitowncubs> bob2: wow, that really makes a difference!
[07:57] <thechitowncubs> wow
[07:58] <Levander> mae: ubuntuguide's the best advice for stuff like that I've found.  I'm installing java next week and I'll do it their way
[07:58] <bob2> thechitowncubs: hrm?
[07:58] <thechitowncubs> hrm?
[07:58] <thechitowncubs> you're losing me
[07:58] <Levander> mae: I think there's some problem with the java licenses and debian licenses, so ubuntu doesn't want to put it in their repositories
[07:59] <ReleaseX> hello all
[07:59] <mae> Levander: heh.. this guide is pretty sloppy..
[07:59] <Levander> unfortunately may have to go outside of apt-get for this one
[07:59] <Levander> mae: it's helped me a lot...
[08:00] <mae> Levander: That's good, but you can install java without having to leave it unmanaged.. there are dummy packages in warty.. one only need enable the warty repository and grab the dummy packages from it
[08:00] <mae> thats what i did
[08:00] <thechitowncubs> bob2: what do you mean by hrm?
[08:00] <mae> but.. i thought they would have some clean way to implement it without having to do "hackish" things like that :)
[08:00] <bread> levander: i marked it for installation, but got an error
[08:01] <TheKark> wow, i just set this up in gaim
[08:01] <bodaciousb> can anyone help me get XMMS working on 5.04?
[08:01] <thechitowncubs> Does anyone use amaroK in gnome?
[08:02] <Levander> mae: i looked at the java stuff in hoary, you know it does look like they've got some stuff in there, but from what I vaguely remember, there are some free JVM's who's performance isn't up to snuff
[08:02] <Levander> mae: which java package did you have in warty?
[08:02] <Levander> bread: you marked what for installation?
[08:03] <bread> all the stuff that was added after this:deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main
[08:04] <Levander> bread: only install stuff as you need it.  Don't just install everything.
[08:04] <bread> i tried to install acid ripper and it wouldn't bulge
[08:05] <Levander> merillat isn't a ubuntu repository, it's for a similar distribution, but not ubuntu, their are going to be problems with it
[08:05] <bread> levander: i still don't seem mplayer on the list that i installed
[08:06] <Levander> bread: how old r u?
[08:07] <mae> Levander: I have sun-j2sdk1.5 installed r1 .. Used the warty and another 3rd party repository
[08:07] <bob2> bread: don't add that line
[08:07] <Levander> mae: yeah, i try not to use 3rd party repositories
[08:09] <bread> levander: 22
[08:09] <Levander> bread: okay, was just wondering
[08:09] <mae> Levander: well you can build your own .deb from the JAVA bin directly from suns site.. with the deb building tool.. but thats a pain :)
[08:09] <bodaciousb> How do i find an "acceptable" C compiler that can be found in $PATH
[08:09] <Levander> what r u using to try to install these?
[08:09] <bread> terminal
[08:09] <Levander> bodaciousb: "which gcc" from command line
[08:10] <bodaciousb> that didnt do anything, just made a new line
[08:10] <Levander> bodaciousb: there some package called "build-essentials" or something like that that has all the stuff that you need for a development environment or to build stuff
[08:10] <tjs> Im trying to figure out if there will be a package containing the fuse kernel module in ubuntu ?
[08:11] <Levander> bodaciousb: "apt-cache search essential" to find it
[08:11] <bodaciousb> ok
[08:11] <tjs> there is fuse-source and fuse-utils, which both recomend fuse-module
[08:11] <Levander> bodaciousb: "apt-cache show <package-name>" to make sure you found it.
[08:11] <tjs> but fuse-module doesnt exist
[08:11] <Levander> bread: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer
[08:12] <bodaciousb> found it
[08:12] <Levander> bodaciousb: what's the name?
[08:12] <bodaciousb> brb, sorry
[08:14] <bodaciousb> build-essential
[08:14] <bodaciousb> i had to get the phone, sorry =)
[08:14] <bodaciousb> pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_10.1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[08:14] <bodaciousb> thats the long filename
[08:14] <bezibaerchen> morning
[08:16] <yfir> quick question about gdm: anyone know which file i edit to change the order of listed sessions gdm login screen? i can't seem to find it
[08:16] <Levander> bodaciousb: yeah, that's it, if you install that, you get a full development environment
[08:16] <cikilin> hello
[08:16] <bodaciousb> how do i install that?
[08:17] <Levander> bodaciousb: "apt-cache show build-essential" to read the description
[08:17] <bodaciousb> ok
[08:17] <Levander> bodaciousb: uninstall what?
[08:17] <bodaciousb> i dont need to uninstall anything
[08:17] <Levander> bodaciousb: same way u install everything "sudo apt-get install <package-name>"
[08:17] <bread> levander: it says unable to lock the adminstration directory
[08:17] <Levander> bodaciousb: package-name is build-essential in this case
[08:18] <bodaciousb> ok
[08:18] <Levander> bread: you have to sudo apt-get commands
[08:18] <Levander> bread: so that you have "root" privileges
[08:18] <bread> oh yeah
[08:18] <Levander> bread: if you don't know what root is, you probably need to read a tutorial or two "Introduction to UNIX" or something like that
[08:19] <bodaciousb> yay, progress on my instalation of xmms
[08:19] <bread> i know what root is
[08:19] <bread> same as root terminal
[08:19] <Levander> bread: okay good
[08:20] <bread> levander: it says another process is using what I am trying to use
[08:20] <Levander> bread: do you have synaptic open? if so, you gotta close that if you're gonna do command line
[08:20] <jinx> hi
[08:20] <bread> good looking
[08:21] <Levander> bodaciousb: how are you trying to install xmms?  Are you not "sudo apt-get install xmms"?
[08:21] <bodaciousb> no, i downloaded it off of the xmms website
[08:21] <bodaciousb> will that work?
[08:21] <mae> what package contains the commandline tool "alsasink"?
[08:22] <bodaciousb> much easier hehe
[08:22] <bread> levander: this was my last line-E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead
[08:22] <Levander> mae: I don't think it's in the ubuntu repositories, "Search the contents of packages" section of packages.ubuntu.com
[08:23] <bodaciousb> it even makes the shortcut hehehe, thanks lev
[08:23] <FeJaOr> how can I erase icons from the system, applications menu??
[08:23] <Levander> bread: you've got invalid entries in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:23] <yair> a little question: how can I download gcc using synaptic package manager? I mean what files from the list would be enough?
[08:23] <mae> ok :)
[08:23] <FeJaOr> how can I erase icons from the system, applications menu??
[08:23] <pablo928> can any one tell me what do i have to add to /etc/fstab so that i can write to /dev/hda1?                                    http://www.pastebin.com/276523
[08:24] <Levander> bread: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[08:24] <Levander> bodaciousb: if you would have "sudo apt-get install xmms", it'd already be done
[08:24] <bread> k
[08:24] <FeJaOr> anyones?
[08:25] <bodaciousb> Yeah lev, i did it... that was cool =)
[08:25] <Levander> yair: install the "build-essentials" package
[08:26] <jinx> Amaranth: is there an new version of gnome-menu-editor?
[08:26] <jinx> :)
[08:27] <FeJaOr> anyones?
[08:27] <FeJaOr> how can I erase icons from the system, applications menu??
[08:27] <bodaciousb> How do i go about installing a .run file? americas army
[08:27] <bob2> yair: install build-essential
[08:27] <Levander> bodaciousb: okay, sorry, i'm trying to play catch up in here
[08:27] <bob2> FeJaOr: you can't, easily
[08:27] <bob2> bodaciousb: it has no instructions?
[08:27] <FeJaOr> just tell me the root
[08:27] <bodaciousb> its ok =)
[08:27] <FeJaOr> I can't remember what the root is
[08:27] <jinx``> bodaciousb: sh ruznfile.run
[08:27] <bread> levander: this is kind of frustrating
[08:27] <Levander> jinx: apt-get --simulate install gnome-menu-editor?
[08:27] <bodaciousb> ok
[08:27] <bread> levander: not too much, but it is
[08:28] <Levander> FeJaOr: sorry, dunno
[08:28] <bread> levander: windows is so much easier
[08:28] <FeJaOr> bob2, just tell me what the root to the icons is cause I don't remember exactly the root
[08:28] <GNAM> aauauauau
[08:28] <GNAM> i've destroyed gnomebar on the bottom
[08:28] <bob2> FeJaOr: no idea, sorry
[08:28] <GNAM> i don't see panels of opened programs, and desktop
[08:28] <jinx``> Levander: i don't think it's in the repositorys yet
[08:28] <SeamusLP> Feja0r:  You can use menu-editor to modify the application's menu.
[08:28] <Levander> FeJaOr: try this, in nautilus, in the location bar, "applications:///"
[08:28] <bob2> bread: what are you confused by?
[08:28] <GNAM> i only see trash icon
[08:28] <GNAM> i've no idea why
[08:29] <GNAM> ho can i recover?
[08:29] <Levander> bread: yeah, learning new things always frustrating
[08:29] <GNAM> how
[08:29] <Levander> bread: try learning one thing at a time
[08:29] <Levander> bread: you have a purpose for using Linux?
[08:29] <bodaciousb> Jinx``: what is Sh? its doing its thing now
[08:29] <goli> i have ubuntu installed on an acer travelmate 2308NLCi ... the speaker icon is showing on the top panel...when i use hot keys to mute/increase/decrease sound the speaker icons responds appropriately...but i cannot hear anything...how do i test if my soundcard works
[08:29] <bread> yep
[08:30] <bread> i can do the same thing in windows, linux seems to have better security
[08:30] <jinx``> just "shell"
[08:30] <FeJaOr> Levander, didn't work
[08:30] <bodaciousb> im trying to get away from windows
[08:30] <bread> levander: u know how to code i python?
[08:30] <woodwizzle> Are there any other linux browsers that use KHTML besides konqueror? preferably one in gtk?
[08:30] <pablo928> bob2, would you check http://www.pastebin.com/276523 and tell me what i need to modify to write to /dev/hda1?
[08:30] <Levander> bread: yeah, i know python
[08:30] <jinx``> so it runs he .run file
[08:30] <bread> that is what i mainly want to use linux for
[08:30] <GNAM> help me! I see only trash icon on gnome bottom panel
[08:30] <jinx``> with ist you can run .run and .sh files
[08:31] <bread> i know it can be used in windows, but I want to know linux as well as windows
[08:31] <FeJaOr> Levander, I just don't remeber what the path is in order to get to those files
[08:31] <SeamusLP> GNAM:  You accidentally delete stuff?
[08:31] <bread> wouldn't think I was a network administrator, heh
[08:31] <Levander> bread: i think learning linux and ubuntu is a good thing, especially if you like computers in general, but you can program in python on Windows
[08:31] <GNAM> No
[08:31] <GNAM> no, SeamusLP
[08:31] <Levander> FeJaOr: in nautilus, try opening the location "applications:///"
[08:32] <GNAM> i'm sure
[08:32] <FeJaOr> Levander, that's what I did but didn't work
[08:32] <bread> well, there's several things I want to use linux for: servers amongst other things
[08:32] <SeamusLP> GNAM:  Try this.  Load up a terminal, type in "killall gnome-panel"
[08:32] <bread> levander: how old r u?
[08:32] <Levander> bread: yeah, servers linux is great for, and they're all free
[08:32] <Levander> 31
[08:32] <SeamusLP> GNAM:  It may just be acting up a little and need a restart.  You may also want to submit a bug report to gnome
[08:32] <GNAM> killall gnome-panel
[08:32] <coobra> i like my new ubuntu :)
[08:32] <GNAM> panel restart only with trash icon
[08:32] <Levander> okay, i'm logging into my ubuntu box, i be back
[08:32] <GNAM> doesn't work
[08:33] <bread> u've been using linux/unix since the 80s huh
[08:33] <GNAM> but i've no idea on what's happened :P
[08:33] <SeamusLP> GNAM:  That's really weird...  Alright looks like you'll have to readd everything manually
[08:33] <bread> levander: normally u have to download programs b4 u install
[08:33] <GNAM> ausaua
[08:34] <Sunneh> can anyone tell me why my mounted drive is not in my Places menu anymore since a reboot?
[08:34] <bread> i am just running these commands and not even sure if they're on my system yet
[08:34] <GNAM> can i try to Reinstall a gnome component?
[08:34] <bodaciousb> anyone know where i can find the "applications" folder, that is my start menu button thingy
[08:34] <somnambulantdead> i am having a problem with something that should be incredibly easy
[08:34] <SeamusLP> Sunneh:  I had that problem.  Try restarting dbus-1.  sudo /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart
[08:35] <Sunneh> SeamusLP - I did that last night and it worked. Do i have to keep doing that to get it to stick?
[08:35] <pablo928> bodaciousb: top left gnome panel
[08:35] <somnambulantdead> i can't get a windeco to install... meanwhile i can get mtaskbar and all other kinds of stuff installed fine
[08:35] <SeamusLP> Sunneh:  It's an odd issue, not everyone has it.  I believe messing with the boot order will fix it.
[08:35] <venkman> Sunneh oops i did it again.
[08:36] <bodaciousb> pablo928: how do i add shortcuts into it?
[08:36] <bodaciousb> pablo928: ahh nevermind i got it =)
[08:36] <SeamusLP> Sunneh:  However I don't mind so much, I've been up since hoary was installed the day it came out ;)
[08:36] <pablo928> bodaciousb:what kind of shortcuts?
[08:36] <Sunneh> lol
[08:37] <pablo928> bodaciousb:
[08:37] <bodaciousb> pablo928: im going to add a shortcut to my music folder on my wifes windows machine
[08:37] <Sunneh> SeamusLP: any idea on how/what to edit in the boot order?
[08:37] <SeamusLP> GNAM:  Just right click on the panel and add your workstation switcher.  Then add your window list.  Then add the show desktop button.  Then file a bug report with gnome ;)
[08:38] <yair> thank you, bob2 and Levander, gcc seem to be working
[08:38] <SeamusLP> Sunneh:  that's been something I've meant to look into in ubuntu.  Try looking up debian runlevel editing.
[08:38] <GNAM> auaua
[08:38] <GNAM> i've just made that
[08:38] <GNAM> it works :P
[08:38] <Sunneh> SeamusLP: Thanks very much. :D
[08:38] <somnambulantdead> does anyone have the .deb for crystal-0.9.2?
[08:39] <SeamusLP> Sunneh:  If you manage to find a solution...  Let me know ;)
[08:39] <thechitowncubs> how long does it take to compile kdelibs?
[08:39] <Sunneh> lol Sure
[08:40] <Sunneh> Anyway, thanks for you help once more.
[08:40] <Sunneh> ttyl
[08:40] <dazzed> whats everyone up to on this fine evening
[08:41] <thechitowncubs> And, if i want to install kubuntu and ubuntu, how do i seperate my menus?
[08:41] <thechitowncubs> so all the kde crap doesn't flow into the gnome menues...
[08:42] <SeamusLP> somnambulantdead:  If you can find an rpm you can convert it with alien -d
[08:42] <bread> levander: where did you go?
[08:42] <bread> bob2: r u on?
[08:42] <bread> dazzed: r u a guru or a novice?
[08:42] <SeamusLP> thechitowncubs:  I like to use seperate user accounts
[08:43] <dazzed> bread: no guru but no novice either...i know my fair share
[08:43] <jinx``> dazzed? evening? it's 8:43am here
[08:43] <jinx``> :P
[08:43] <dazzed> 243 here
[08:43] <somnambulantdead> SeamusLP: the only thing i can manage to download is source which won't properly install
[08:43] <coobra> whats the esyest way to add aterm ?
[08:43] <thechitowncubs> SeamusLP: hmm, ok
[08:43] <SeamusLP> somnambulantdead:  Are there unresolved dependencies?
[08:43] <bread> need help installing something
[08:43] <dazzed> i know enough to know that my nieghboors need to move their wireless hub closer to the window so i can gett a better conn
[08:43] <SeamusLP> thechitowncubs:  This may seem like a bad solution...  However some symlinks and a couple chmods in the home directory will make it very, very seamless ;)
[08:44] <bodaciousb> i have the stupidest question you have ever been asked..... i just installed americas army, the file "Armyops" i belive is the executeable, it has an icon with a brown diamond and it says SH on it..... how do i run that file?
[08:44] <thechitowncubs> Which is easier?
[08:44] <bodaciousb> just run in terminal?
[08:44] <dazzed> bodaciousb: ./file
[08:44] <somnambulantdead> i get weird errors... it enters the directory, decides there is nothing to do in there, and exits
[08:44] <SeamusLP> Is there a makefile in the directory?
[08:45] <bodaciousb> Sweetness, it runs!... ok how do i make a shortcut to it for my applications bar
[08:45] <thechitowncubs> i created a new user, but how do i install kde under that user and not the one i am now?
[08:45] <somnambulantdead> yeah
[08:45] <dazzed> i dont use gnome couldnt tell ya
[08:45] <dazzed> bread: did you have a problem?
[08:46] <SeamusLP> thechitowncubs:  Hmm you know now that I think about it that might not work... unless you can install kde to the new home directory
[08:47] <somnambulantdead> configure works fine... finally got all the depends for that
[08:47] <SeamusLP> thechitowncubs:  Are you sure that installing kde will put all of the kde icons in your gnome menu?
[08:47] <bread> dazzed: yes
[08:47] <dazzed> thechitowncubs: you on ubu or kubuntu?
[08:47] <thechitowncubs> Ubuntu
[08:47] <dazzed> bread: whats up?
[08:47] <SeamusLP> somnambulantdead:  Could you pm me the exact error message when you try a make?
[08:47] <dazzed> thechitowncubs: so you installed kubuntu-desktop package?
[08:47] <pablo928> dazzed:could you check http://www.pastebin.com/276523 and tell me how i can write to /dev/hda1, please?
[08:47] <bread> trying to intall a couple of programs
[08:47] <thechitowncubs> thats what im planning on doing
[08:47] <thechitowncubs> but last time it crapped up all my gnome menus
[08:47] <dazzed> bread:  like?
[08:48] <bread> mplayer and gaim
[08:48] <bread> cdrecord also
[08:48] <bread> i want to burn cds
[08:48] <dazzed> bread: ur ubuntu didnt come with gaim?
[08:48] <dazzed> bread: and get k3b (its the best)
[08:48] <somnambulantdead> well i get this
[08:48] <somnambulantdead> make[2] : Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
[08:48] <dazzed> for burning
[08:48] <somnambulantdead> not really an error
[08:49] <bread> dazzed: well, the newer version
[08:49] <dazzed> pablo928: let me find the thing you have to add
[08:49] <bread> dazzed: i am not familiar with k3b
[08:49] <somnambulantdead> make[2] : Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
[08:49] <thechitowncubs> dazzed, any ideas of how to seperate the two menus?
[08:49] <SeamusLP> somnambulantdead:  Hmmm, try sudo make install maybe?
[08:49] <yfir> anyone know which file to edit to change the order of sessions listed on the gdm login screen? i can't seem to find it anywhere
[08:49] <dazzed> pablo928: you have to chmod it to certain permissions
[08:49] <somnambulantdead> that is what i have done
[08:49] <dazzed> thechitowncubs: for gnome?
[08:49] <venkman> yfir you tried the manpage?
[08:49] <dazzed> bread: k3b is like nero more or less if your framilliar with nero...its universal cd burning software...(cant get better)
[08:50] <thechitowncubs> dazzed: i just want to make sure kde doesn't put its icons in my gnome menu
[08:50] <yfir> venkman: yeah
[08:50] <SeamusLP> somnambulantdead:  Have you compiled the program first?  it's ./configure, then make, then sudo make install
[08:50] <bread> where do i obtain it from?
[08:50] <dazzed> bread: since your trying to get newest version of gaim i take it your compiling
[08:50] <venkman> does gaim have an autopackage?
[08:50] <pablo928> dazzed dev/hda1 used to be ntfs, yesterday i reformatted to ext3
[08:50] <somnambulantdead> yes
[08:50] <somnambulantdead> i have
[08:50] <dazzed> thechitowncubs: well i dont use kde or gnome so i dont know specifics lol ...to my knowledge i dont think it will
[08:50] <bread> if i knew how
[08:51] <thechitowncubs> i tried it once, and it did
[08:51] <dazzed> pablo928: you still need to chmod permissions to write...
[08:51] <somnambulantdead> multiple times... the other steps run fine... just make install get all fuxored
[08:51] <thechitowncubs> what are you using dazzed?
[08:51] <bob2> bread: look for k3b in synaptic
[08:51] <XTCboarder> this ain't a linux question but if somebody knows i'll apreciate it... can you load ur iPod with other thing than the iTunes soft or it's clone for other plataforms? meaning can you just plug it as a hard drive and drag thing into it?
[08:51] <dazzed> pablo928: add this to your mount command '-o umask=002 0 0
[08:51] <SeamusLP> somnambulantdead:  Might be possible to go ahead and run the program...  If you do a make it may make a directory somewhere that you can go into and run some executable
[08:51] <dazzed> ';
[08:52] <bob2> XTCboarder: no
[08:52] <venkman> i burn my CDs using paper matches and a magnifine glass.
[08:52] <bob2> XTCboarder: complain to apple
[08:52] <bodaciousb> America's army runs beautifully on my machine woohoo, my first real Linux game
[08:52] <somnambulantdead> not a program... just a windeco
[08:52] <bread> bob2 okay
[08:52] <SeamusLP> somnambulantdead:  That would at least be a temporary solution
[08:52] <SeamusLP> ah I see
[08:52] <somnambulantdead> which is why it is so confusing... because programs seem to compile fine
[08:52] <pablo928> dazzed, thanks i'll give it a try
[08:52] <dazzed> bread: so your "trying" to compile
[08:52] <dazzed> bread: first you need to apt-get build-essential;
[08:52] <XTCboarder> bob2 only using that shit?
[08:53] <XTCboarder> haha good,
[08:53] <XTCboarder> i'm making a school job
[08:53] <bread> dazzed: where do i get that
[08:53] <bread> bob2: it isn't there
[08:53] <SeamusLP> somnambulantdead:  seems rather out of the ordinary.  Perhaps it's simply broken?
[08:53] <yfir> another gdm question: how do i add a "failsafe" mode to a session in the gdm session choser?
[08:53] <dazzed> bread: goto your terminal and "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[08:53] <closure> firefox officialy sucks for ubuntu
[08:53] <membreya> can someone help me with a question regarding the use of a digital camera and ubuntu ?
[08:53] <bob2> dazzed: dude
[08:53] <somnambulantdead> what is wrong with FF?
[08:53] <thechitowncubs> bob2: you're smart =D, how can i seperate my kde application menu icons from my gnome menus
[08:53] <venkman> closure shit works for me
[08:53] <dazzed> bob2: ?
[08:53] <SeamusLP> FF works here
[08:53] <bob2> dazzed: please don't encourage him/her to do that unless you're going to be there to explain *everything*
[08:54] <closure> oh it works
[08:54] <bob2> thechitowncubs: no idea, I don't use menus
[08:54] <dazzed> bob2: i was planning on it
[08:54] <thechitowncubs> hehe
[08:54] <thechitowncubs> damn
[08:54] <closure> try getting it running real nice with video audio and schok
[08:54] <closure> it'll crash in no time
[08:54] <closure> shock
[08:54] <membreya> what's happening is when I plug in the cam, dmesg is picking it up ... and it's printing the message /dev/scsi/host4/bus0/target0/lun0 however /dev/scsi does not exist as a dir...it's apparently assigning it as /dev/sdc but again it's not
[08:54] <dazzed> bob2: and its not that hard to figure out...its something everyone needs to know...its not complicated considering its 3 commands
[08:54] <membreya> do I need to install and special packages?
[08:54] <remi_> salut a tous
[08:54] <venkman> closure that's not firefox's fault or ubuntu's
[08:55] <bob2> dazzed: well, it's not something "everyone needs to know", everything anyone cares about should be packaged
[08:55] <bob2> membreya: are you using breezy?
[08:55] <bread> dazzed: i think we finally have something working
[08:55] <membreya> bob2: yes
[08:55] <dazzed> bob2: ...yeah make linux more like windows use..."everything you should ever need is in packages"
[08:55] <bread> bob2: k3b isn't there
[08:55] <XTCboarder> bob2 are you shure it's like that on the iPod's?
[08:55] <dazzed> not everything everyone needs is in packages
[08:55] <fitheach> morning all
[08:55] <bob2> membreya: then it's a known bug that you'll have to wait to have fixed
[08:55] <bob2> bread: yes it is
[08:55] <dazzed> and most of the debian packages are out dated
[08:55] <SeamusLP> thechitowncubs:  I think if you simply do not log on with kde with a particular user it will not create the files in your home directory that add the menu icons.  I'm not 100% on that.
[08:55] <dazzed> ...
[08:55] <bob2> dazzed: everything should be in packages
[08:56] <membreya> bob2: aaaah crud
[08:56] <bob2> membreya: (everyone has been telling people not to use breezy)
[08:56] <dazzed> bob2: until the day that debian catches up and is able to update packages to follow along with dev updates...then packages are not the answer
[08:56] <bob2> XTCboarder: they do not use any standard protocol afaik
[08:56] <membreya> bob2: yeah but where's the fun..oh well I can always boot into a hoary livecd
[08:56] <bob2> dazzed: haha
[08:56] <XTCboarder> oh....
[08:56] <bob2> membreya: is there fun in a system that doesn't mount your camera?
[08:57] <bread> going to look again
[08:57] <membreya> bob2: a slight hinderance at best :)
[08:57] <closure> venkman, well who's fault is it then?
[08:57] <dazzed> bob2: im a huge fan of the debian way (why i use it :) ) but you gotta understand most of the shit is very out of date ...considering linux is all about constant forward motion
[08:57] <thechitowncubs> seamus: that makes since
[08:57] <bob2> dazzed: linux isn't about that, but that's a side issue
[08:57] <remi_> nobody on the ubuntu french  xchat
[08:57] <venkman> closure yours, the people who made the plugin, or the people who wrote the decoder or whatever
[08:57] <bob2> dazzed: what for example isn't up to date?
[08:57] <yfir> dazzed: who told you linux is about 'constant forward motion'?
[08:58] <SeamusLP> thechitowncubs:  You can ensure that one user logs in as kde and the other logs in as gnome by your .xsession file in the home directory, I believe
[08:58] <closure> venkman, lol i highly doubt it since many people are having issues with it
[08:58] <bob2> dazzed: and wouldn't it be better to get them updated so everyone can benefit from that work?
[08:58] <bread> bob2: i am looking under All section in the K section and I don' t C it
[08:58] <remi_> do you use gDesklets
[08:58] <closure> mplayer is pretty damn stable
[08:58] <closure> shock is stable
[08:58] <pixil9> i'm starting to like totem-xine
[08:58] <venkman> i use totem
[08:58] <dazzed> bob2, yfir: i misworderd its not "about" forward motion...but things are constantly updated almost DAILY
[08:58] <closure> firefox should be stable
[08:58] <bob2> bread: ok, but it is there, assuming you enabled universe and multiverse
[08:58] <bob2> dazzed: sure, and wait until you see grumpy
[08:58] <closure> but it's not in ubuntu for some reaosn
[08:58] <bodaciousb> What is a good mp3 player? Xmms isnt working at all
[08:58] <closure> err reason
[08:59] <bread> bob2, i did enable those
[08:59] <bob2> dazzed: but what is "out of date" in ubuntu?
[08:59] <Adross> how do i edit the gnome-places menu?
[08:59] <yfir> bodaciousb: before you change audio players, make sure that xmms is configured to use esd rather than alsa/oss
[08:59] <dazzed> bob2: if your so hung up on not rolling your own apps then you shouldnt be using linux .. i mean honestly "./configure && make && sudo make install" is just as easy as "sudo apt-get install"
[08:59] <thechitowncubs> Seamuslp: I don't have an .xsession file in my home dir
[08:59] <bread> bob2: yeah, it is under software sources
[08:59] <bodaciousb> yfir: ok
[08:59] <SeamusLP> thechitowncubs:  I think you have to make one ;)
[09:00] <thechitowncubs> hehe
[09:00] <dazzed> bob2: plenty of things...thats why new versions come out every six months to keep up with the change...theres been 2 releases of gaim since hoary came out a lone
[09:00] <dazzed> and its not just ubuntu
[09:00] <thechitowncubs> I wish I knew what to put in there
[09:00] <dazzed> its debian in general
[09:00] <bob2> dazzed: dude, I *maintain* packages
[09:00] <bread> dazzed: do you have the latest version of gaim?
[09:00] <bread> installed
[09:00] <dazzed> then why is fluxbox still on 9.11 when 9.13 is gettin ready to come out?
[09:01] <dazzed> bread: no i dont care enough to update :)
[09:01] <bob2> dazzed: I'm quite capable of compiling things, I just think that it's way better for me to put effort into that so it's trivial for other people to get software than it is for thousands of people to compile it
[09:01] <SeamusLP> thechitowncubs:  for gnome I think you just add gnome-session
[09:01] <bob2> dazzed: and both of those releases of gaim are in breezy, afaik
[09:01] <bodaciousb> yfir: where do i find that setting?
[09:01] <Levander> lol @ dazzed telling bob how easy building packages is...
[09:01] <bread> dazzed: i did build essential and now how do I compile?
[09:01] <SeamusLP> thechitowncubs:  there may be guides... I'm not sure myself since I don't use the file...
[09:01] <Adross> anyone, gnome places menu?
[09:01] <DerNetteWurm> hey guys, why does ubuntu still run x after "init 3" ?
[09:01] <dazzed> bob2: you have to understand im not complaining about the packages...blah blah...im jsut saying that people "should" know how to compile considering somethings cant be provided by packages...and its just good knowledge to know
[09:02] <dazzed> bread: ok im going to explain to you so you know what your doing not just typing commands pm me
[09:02] <bob2> Adross: no need to repeat, and I'm pretty sure it's not modifiable
[09:02] <bob2> Adross: try asking on the user list
[09:02] <Adross> user...list?
[09:02] <thechitowncubs> then kde-session ?
[09:02] <bob2> Adross: the mailing list
[09:02] <thechitowncubs> for kde?
[09:02] <SeamusLP> Andross:  The places menu tends to edit itself based on mounted partitions, recent documents, and quick-folders.
[09:02] <Adross> ooh, ah well, thanks anyway
[09:02] <Adross> cya
[09:02] <bob2> anyway, work time
[09:02] <yfir> bodaciousb: somewhere in options or preferences. i don't use xmms so i'm not exactly sure, but somewhere you'll find a box for 'output'. set it to esd or enlightened whatever
[09:02] <bread> dazzed: listening
[09:03] <dazzed> bob2: btw thank you for maintaining packages...and i know you cant get em all...but people love fluxbox get that up to date fo ril
[09:03] <SeamusLP> thechitowncubs:  I really don't know.  Look it up.  Google for kde xsession :P
[09:03] <dazzed> bread: im going to pm you hold up
[09:03] <yfir> bodaciousb: it might be referred to as esound too, not sure
[09:03] <bob2> dazzed: I have no interest in fluxbox, tho
[09:03] <bob2> dazzed: but you do
[09:03] <bob2> d	why don't you help get it updated? :)
[09:03] <dazzed> bob2: but A LOT OF PEOPLE DO
[09:03] <Nico_1981> Hello !  how to get rid of the tooltips that appear on the windows list ? I could not find this setting anywhere in the control center or configuration editor
[09:03] <bodaciousb> yfir: ok esound is in there
[09:03] <bob2> dazzed: I'm sure some people do
[09:03] <dazzed> bob2: cuz i dont "*maintain*" packages
[09:03] <bob2> dazzed: why not?
[09:03] <dazzed> no time
[09:04] <dazzed> i got school and stuff to attend
[09:04] <bob2> and I have a fulltime job
[09:04] <Levander> lol @ dont "*maintain*"
[09:04] <bodaciousb> yfir: it jsut doesnt play, it will load the file, just play does nothing at all, i did just install it though, ill try to restart, brb
[09:04] <dazzed> well...im 19 years old and id rather go out get drunk smoke pot then maintain packages for ubuntu
[09:04] <yfir> bodaciousb: probably no need to restart your comp...
[09:04] <bob2> anyway, just a suggestion for how you can help if you care about fluxbox
[09:04] <yfir> oh well...
[09:04] <remi_> what is grumpy i m french
[09:04] <Levander> dazzed: if you don't have time to maintain a package, how do you have time to keep up with all the latest updates?
[09:05] <yfir> dazzed: then quit complaining about fluxbox not up-to-cutting-edge-date
[09:05] <dazzed> bob2: anyway im not trying to get on your case we are fighting the same cause...im just trying to state that there isnt a package for everything...
[09:05] <bob2> dudes, chill out
[09:05] <dazzed> yfir...shh
[09:06] <Levander> dazzed: but haning out complaining about packages takes priority over drinking and smoking apparently...
[09:06] <bob2> Levander: dude
[09:06] <dazzed> Levander: that has no relation
[09:06] <natecull> Printing question:
[09:06] <bob2> come on
[09:06] <natecull> How do I completely clear a job from the print queue?
[09:06] <dazzed> Levander: im not complaining about packages
[09:06] <dazzed> do you not listen
[09:06] <kaesehummer> nothing takes priority over drinking and smoking!
[09:06] <dazzed> ...
[09:06] <Levander> all right, i'll stop - dazzed is a trol though... but i'll stop
[09:06] <pixil9> dazzed, agreed.
[09:06] <natecull> I am using the Gnome Print Manager to clear the queue, and it says it is doing it
[09:06] <yfir> dazzed: in anycase, what you are after (some repository that is totally up to date with every package in it) will never happen.
[09:06] <SeamusLP> bob2:  Cheers to the smoking man.
[09:06] <dazzed> rofl Levander ...
[09:06] <natecull> but when I turn my printer back on, it starts printing the middle of a job
[09:06] <dazzed> yfir: thats what should happen...
[09:07] <natecull> is there another spool somewhere that CUPS is using that I need to clear?
[09:07] <SeamusLP> dazzed I meant, heh
[09:07] <bob2> yfir: yes, it will
[09:07] <dazzed> some of you have a lot to learn
[09:07] <bob2> wait a couple of months
[09:07] <pixil9> yfir: I'm in the CIA and my repositories are totally upto date daily
[09:07] <Levander> dazzed: if you actually worked on it, and didn't just sit on the sidelines crying foul, you would see it's not gonna happen, it can't
[09:07] <natecull> Rebooting my machine clears the queue. Presumably there's a way to *really* clear a queue that doesn't involve rebooting?
[09:07] <bob2> Levander: dude
[09:07] <bob2> drop it
[09:07] <yfir> dazzed: how? i can't think of a single system anywhere (linux or not) where the compiled binaries are exactly matched to developer's source
[09:07] <dazzed> Levander: sit on the sidelines...
[09:07] <bob2> you're not even listening to what dazzed is saying
[09:07] <dazzed> thats funny
[09:08] <Levander> okay, bye guys, i gotta sleep..
[09:08] <dazzed> Levander: you have no idea what im talking about do you
[09:08] <Levander> have fun
[09:08] <bodaciousb> yfir:  i reset xmms still is not doing anything, what do you use?
[09:08] <Levander> dazzed: no, i don't
[09:08] <Levander> but bye, gotta sleep...
[09:08] <pixil9> LISTEN ALL. YOU'RE ALL WRONG
[09:08] <dazzed> Levander: i dont think i complained about packages once...besides the statement that some packages are out of date...and you cant use .debs for everything...i dont really consider that complaining
[09:08] <kaesehummer> I'll type in all caps, because that makes me look smart
[09:08] <yfir> bodaciousb: beep media player, but it's essentially xmms, so it won't help to switch to it most likely
[09:08] <natecull> anybody have any suggestions?
[09:08] <yfir> bodaciousb: did you change the settings to esound?
[09:08] <bodaciousb> yfir:  i found the problem
[09:08] <pixil9> kaesehummer, YES I KNOW
[09:08] <dazzed> TO all you fuckers that think im a troll...if i didnt like packages why would i be on a debian based os...
[09:09] <bob2> dazzed: stop it
[09:09] <dazzed> fuckin morons
[09:09] <bob2> end of discussion, all of you
[09:09] <bodaciousb> yfir:  i was tyring to play from a windows shared drive, my wifes xomputer, if i copy the mp3 to mine it WILL play
[09:09] <yfir> bodaciousb: haha
[09:09] <bodaciousb> yfir:  that sucks.... i have 1500 mp3's over there
[09:09] <pablo928> dazzed, tried to mount /etc/fstab "error on line #8"http://www.pastebin.com/276536 newest ?etc/fstab
[09:09] <natecull> I take it that's a no
[09:10] <yfir> bodaciousb: move them :)
[09:10] <dazzed> yfir: what are u talking about?
[09:10] <yfir> dazzed: huh?
[09:10] <dazzed> pablo928: hmmm...thats how i do it
[09:10] <natecull> sigh. Time to reboot then. Have a good life, all.
[09:10] <bodaciousb> is there a way to mount a network drive?
[09:10] <yfir> dazzed: it seemed you were upset that the ubuntu binary packages didn't match developer's source releases. I was just pointing out that it will never happen
[09:11] <dCYFa> hello all
[09:11] <SeamusLP> bodaciousbob:  Check out places, connec to server
[09:11] <SeamusLP> bodaciousbob:  Service type is going to be windows share ;)
[09:11] <bob2> yfir: please?
[09:11] <dazzed> bob2: and im sorry for getting upset...its just some people that i have seen maybe 2 times in this chat try to tell me im stupid gets on my nerves...and you understood me for the most part i wasnt trying to get upset we were just talking then some stupid asses had to jump in
[09:11] <yfir> bob2: ok. he asked what i was talking about though. subject dropped
[09:11] <dazzed> yfir: i realize that wont ever happen...its just what SHOULD happen to rule out compiling...
[09:12] <saber_> how can you enable php in apache2? i've already edited apache2.conf to have the AddType/DirectoryIndex directives
[09:12] <pablo928> dazzed. thanks for the help....i'll try again tomorrow
[09:12] <bodaciousb> SeamusLP: i need to mount the drive so xmms will think that the files on that server are local
[09:12] <pixil9> saber_, apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4
[09:12] <dCYFa> nice project you have here...
[09:12] <dazzed>  pablo928 sorry man :(
[09:12] <pixil9> /etc/init.d/apache restart
[09:12] <bob2> saber_: do you have the libapache2-mod-php3 package installed?
[09:13] <saber_> ah. i do not have libapache2-mod-php
[09:13] <saber_> i thought all i needed was php
[09:13] <dazzed> bob2: who do i talk to about getting into maintaining packages?
[09:13] <SeamusLP> bodaciousb:  Good question, I know it's possible with NFS.
[09:13] <pixil9> the website?
[09:14] <bodaciousb> SeamusLP: whats nfs?
[09:14] <pablo928> dazzed, it will happen some time...just need to try some more. meanwhile i still have about 70GB on hdb to fill
[09:14] <SeamusLP> bodaciousb:  Well it won't help you out here because you need an NFS server
[09:14] <bodaciousb> SeamusLP: oh =)
[09:14] <dazzed> bodaciousb: nfs is a file transfer system for linux computers
[09:14] <dazzed> pablo928: hehe gl
[09:15] <SeamusLP> bodaciousb:  xmms will not play them over a network?
[09:15] <bodaciousb> SeamusLP: not at all
[09:15] <bodaciousb> SeamusLP: i copy it to the desktop and off it goes...
[09:15] <dazzed> has anyone else notices lockups caused by xmms?
[09:15] <bodaciousb> SeamusLP: its funny, it wont play the file, but it will load it... it will start scrolling the song name
[09:16] <bodaciousb> SeamusLP: the play button just doesnt do anything
[09:17] <SeamusLP> bodaciousb:  hmm, is it possible with rhythmbox?
[09:17] <bodaciousb> SeamusLP: thats not installed
[09:17] <SeamusLP> bodaciousb:  I may have found something.  Check this link out http://rtfm.dyndns.info/tips/2000/04/30/26.shtml
[09:17] <bob2> dazzed: #ubuntu-motu
[09:17] <bodaciousb> whats the command to search for packages on sudo? suck as rythembox and wine
[09:18] <bob2> bodaciousb: how do you mean? apt-cache search wine?
[09:18] <saber_> great. worked like a charm...
[09:18] <topyli> sudo?
[09:18] <dazzed> bob2: thanks ... just anyone in there?
[09:18] <bodaciousb> SeamusLP: ill check that out
[09:18] <bodaciousb> bob2: exactly bob, thank you
[09:18] <pixil9> just use smbfs in your fstab
[09:18] <bob2> dazzed: yes.
[09:18] <bob2> bodaciousb: you mean "command line", not "sudo", btw
[09:19] <bodaciousb> bob2: i dont even know what sudo is.... all i know is i type that first
[09:20] <bodaciousb> and apperently wine is nowhere
[09:20] <bob2> bodaciousb: you don't need to use sudo with apt-cache
[09:20] <SeamusLP> bodaciousb: yeah and as pixil9 said, you should be able to add it to /etc/fstab
[09:20] <dazzed> bob2: thanks again...and sorry for gettin upset earlier...i just dont like gettin ganged up on...gettin called a trol by some newb
[09:20] <bob2> bodaciousb: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto explains how to enable universe
[09:21] <bodaciousb> bob2: ok
[09:21] <DerNetteWurm> hmmm how do i turn x off?
[09:21] <bodaciousb> seamuslp: yeah im reading up on that right now
[09:21] <pixil9> DerNetteWurm, Remove gdm?
[09:21] <venkman> dazzed : goddamn newb ;)
[09:21] <bob2> DerNetteWurm: depends what you mean.  what are you trying todo?
[09:21] <venkman> DerNetteWurm: /etc/init.d/xorg stop
[09:21] <venkman> maybe
[09:21] <bob2> no
[09:21] <DerNetteWurm> trying to install nvidia drivers :)
[09:22] <pixil9> I guess update-rc.d -f xorg remove works
[09:22] <bob2> then you don't need to disable it
[09:22] <bob2> pixil9: no, that's also wrong
[09:22] <bob2> DerNetteWurm: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:22] <pixil9> why not?
[09:22] <pixil9> lol
[09:22] <cens0red> DerNetteWurm $gdm stop
[09:23] <bob2> no
[09:23] <SeamusLP> good luck everyone... I'm off to bed.
[09:23] <DerNetteWurm> are those drivers the same that are on the nvidia page?
[09:24] <bob2> please just use that guide
[09:24] <venkman> yea
[09:24] <bob2> it's way easier for you and us
[09:24] <venkman> nvidia's are probably newer, but DOESNT mean better.
[09:24] <bezibaerchen> isnt mplayer in the repositories?
[09:24] <bob2> they are some release of drivers from nvidia
[09:24] <bob2> bezibaerchen: yes, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:24] <pixil9> The ubuntuguide is way better than that
[09:24] <pixil9> thats just not necessary
[09:24] <DerNetteWurm> hmmm k
[09:25] <DerNetteWurm> thx :)
[09:25] <pixil9> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[09:25] <pixil9> look @ that DerNetteWurm
[09:25] <bezibaerchen> bob2: hmm, same with SuSE...
[09:25] <bob2> pixil9: then please fix the wiki
[09:25] <bob2> spreading documentation across the universe is not a good idea
[09:25] <bodaciousb> is makedir the command to make a directry?
[09:25] <bob2> bodaciousb: mkdir
[09:25] <bodaciousb> bob2: thank you
[09:26] <venkman> ahh
[09:27] <venkman> i think i convinced someone at work today to use ubuntu.
[09:27] <venkman> gentoo--\
[09:27] <Zerboxx> Hello
[09:28] <jsgotangco> that's good man
[09:29] <Zerboxx> Anyone able to help me with 2 (hopefully small) problems? 1 regarding sound control, the other regarding X-Chat
[09:31] <topyli> opinion: should i add this to the RootSudo wiki entry? "Every cracker trying to brute-force their way into your box will know it has an account named "root" and will try that first. What they don't know is the usernames of your other users."
[09:31] <topyli> hrm. "are the usernames of..."
[09:32] <breadcrook> r there any Gurus here?
[09:33] <DerNetteWurm> yeah tuxracer works :)
[09:33] <DerNetteWurm> my life is way better now
[09:35] <Don> must be few files missing warty live cd
[09:36] <Don> no way can I get online with dialup
[09:38] <topyli> ok, changed the wiki. if i broke it, flame away :)
[09:38] <cikilin> what i need to listen am mp3 song just putting mouce over it?
[09:38] <Codename_V> hey there.  just wondering, if I have an opteron does unbuntu handle multilib stuff ok?  meaning if I want to put some 64 bit and 32 bit apps togehter on the same system, does that work?
[09:40] <topyli> Zerboxx: you'll have to ask before we know if we can answer :)
[09:41] <Zerboxx> topyli: I was just wanted to make sure I wasn't wasting my time :)
[09:41] <cikilin> what i need to listen am mp3 song just putting mouce over itwithaout click?
[09:42] <topyli> Zerboxx: well, that's what you're doing right now ;)
[09:42] <scizzo> cikilin: you need a player for it...and also the mad lib
[09:42] <cikilin> k
[09:42] <cikilin> i ahve a player
[09:42] <cikilin> xmms
[09:42] <Zerboxx> So problem 1: I use a laptop, and have my stereo plugged into the headphone jack.  I also have a keyboard with volume control, but it dosn't control the headphone volume, is it possible to make it so it does?
[09:42] <blueyed> scizzo, he means "preview" on hover.
[09:43] <ups> cikilin, install sox
[09:43] <blueyed> Zerboxx, does the kbd volume control works at all?
[09:43] <topyli> Zerboxx: laptops are dogs. have you tried the "keyboard shortcuts" preferences in the "system" menu?
[09:43] <Zerboxx> kbd? I've gone into the volume control and I can control it from there, but not the keyboard
[09:43] <scizzo> blueyed: ooo...hmmm
[09:44] <cikilin> where can i get mad lib
[09:44] <Zerboxx> topyli: yeah, when I use the volume controls the master volume changes/mutes, but that doesn't change the volume coming out of the headphone jack
[09:44] <topyli> ahh
[09:44] <breadcrook> ne gurus?
[09:44] <davegahan> I need help: while booting into ubuntu, and after giving my username and password my system crashes
[09:44] <breadcrook> dazzed: what happen?
[09:44] <blueyed> Zerboxx, kbd=keyboard. I mean: get the keys recognized. But I remember having setup mine for volume up/down with gnome, too.
[09:45] <dazzed> breadcrook: long story... got kicked
[09:45] <blueyed> Zerboxx, so this is just an issue of master/channel volume.
[09:45] <breadcrook> by whom?
[09:45] <davegahan> it crashes so bad i have to pull out power and my battery to reboot
[09:45] <dazzed> breadcrook: which file did you download from the gaim site?
[09:45] <breadcrook> bz2
[09:45] <breadcrook> wanna pm
[09:45] <dazzed> theres like 20 bz2's
[09:45] <dazzed> lol
[09:45] <Zerboxx> Yeah, the keys are recognized (by keyboard controls, and not amaroK for some reason *shrugs*), but only control master
[09:45] <dazzed> did you download the source bz2
[09:45] <Zerboxx> if possible, I'd like it to control headphones instead
[09:46] <blueyed> Zerboxx, no idea.. :(
[09:46] <Mirv> davegahan: are you running i386, x86-64 or powerpc ubuntu?
[09:46] <davegahan> i run a centrino notebook, kernel 386 and 686 give the same effect
[09:46] <Zerboxx> blueyed: Thanks for trying, hopefully I'll find something online, now for question 2 :)
[09:47] <davegahan> i need to get into my system to retrieve my files
[09:47] <Mirv> davegahan: not that I had much idea, but one friend of mine has x86-64 installation and had a similar problem.. then again her pc was definitely problematic (windows crashed a lot of time) and is being repaired
[09:47] <Zerboxx> When I first attempted to get to here from the ubuntu website, I get a error messsage that states: "irc is not a registered protocol" how can I make it so it is, so it starts up X-Chat?
[09:47] <Mirv> davegahan: to retrieve your files, you could try Ubuntu live cd
[09:48] <davegahan> i running windows from the dual boot and have no problem
[09:48] <Mirv> ok, then it's weird
[09:48] <davegahan> oh my god, this smells really bad
[09:48] <davegahan> it all started with totem freezing my whole system yesterday
[09:49] <kadambi> My machine is running Hoary, iam trying totem movie player to play .DAT file, but i'm getting only audio no video . any way out ?
[09:50] <lunitik> kadambi: Codecs installed via w32codecs?
[09:51] <kadambi> I have no idea regrd w32codecs
[09:51] <davegahan> anyone who knows how i can retrieve my files ? ubuntu crashes while booting gnome
[09:51] <blueyed> davegahan, have you tried another window manager? or plain console (tty1)?
[09:52] <blueyed> try switching there with ctrl-alt-f1.. you can install then kde or xfce, if term is not enough.
[09:53] <lunitik> kadambi: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:53] <bezibaerchen>  http://fredsmith.us/mirror/funny/ft020726.gif
[09:53] <lunitik> kadambi: you have totem-xine installed correct?
[09:53] <davegahan> no i have not tried console
[09:54] <lunitik> kadambi: those codecs don't work with totem-gstreamer...
[09:54] <davegahan> i did boot up in text mode but my knowledge of console commands is limited
[09:54] <guruff> lo
[09:54] <lunitik> kadambi: (just apt-get install totem-xine w32codecs when you activate the repo)
[09:55] <blueyed> Zerboxx, about url handlers with gnome, I'Ve found this: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=6836649&forum_id=6199
[09:55] <guruff> is there any chance in future to have ubuntu optimized for specific processor; just like gentoo distros ? just wondering; anyhow what would be performance gain from having whole system compiled for: for example 686 not 386 ????????
[09:55] <Zerboxx> blueyed Thanks again, I'll check it out
[09:56] <cikilin> ups i installed sox but is not working
[09:57] <breadcrook> what r u people doing?
[09:57] <venkman> guruff the results have been mixed. i would suggest just making sure you have the right kernel image installed.
[09:58] <venkman> breadcrook : i'm working on some pl/sql
[09:58] <breadcrook> really
[09:58] <venkman> yup
[09:58] <breadcrook> for what?
[09:58] <venkman> database designs.
[09:58] <venkman> a class.
[09:58] <cikilin> what i need to listen am mp3 song just putting mouce over it withaout click?
[09:58] <breadcrook> in access or oracle?
[09:58] <Raquen> a good program for see video?
[09:58] <venkman> oracle
[09:58] <guruff> venkman; i have p3, and 686 kernel installed but still it is a bit slow
[09:58] <breadcrook> venkman: do you have a movie database?
[09:59] <venkman> nah
[09:59] <venkman> i have tables for... students, tranasactions at a library and books
[09:59] <ups> cikilin, do u have mpg321 installed?
[09:59] <davegahan> there is a movie database called GCfilms