[21:24] <blockhd> :)
[21:24] <Mr_Bad_News> what else do i need channeling
[21:24] <Gnea> sugi: just tell it to use the vesa driver, for now
[21:25] <LinuxIST> nixnoob_, ok i installed located
[21:25] <channeling> Mr_Bad_News you have to configure Firefox now
[21:25] <LinuxIST> i mean locate
[21:25] <nixnoob_> LinuxIST: so type locate ssb.ko
[21:25] <Mr_Bad_News> guide channeling ?
[21:25] <Mr_Bad_News> i dont really want firefox to use it
[21:26] <Mr_Bad_News> its for irc
[21:26] <nixnoob_> LinuxIST: once it tells u what directory its in, use sudo rm to delete it
[21:26] <LinuxIST> nixnoob_, nothing
[21:26] <nixnoob_> try using find ssb.ko
[21:26] <nixnoob_> or whereis ssb.ko
[21:26] <jm2k> Hardy just did a patch update, now firefox 3 launches but doesnt show any toolbars/menus or standard browser -- just plain gray window!! Any ideas?
[21:26] <sugi> Gnea: How do I do that? In Screen Resolution?  But wouldn't that messed up my display and dump me to console?
[21:26] <cypherdelic> I want to know how to prevent gnome-panel temporarily from auto-restart, because i want to start it myself to create a valgrid memeryleak log. any suggestions?
[21:27] <channeling> Mr_Bad_News ok, I see
[21:27] <LinuxIST> it cant find it, whereis can't see it
[21:27] <J-_> I just installed a usb2.0 PCI card. What command will tell me that I have it working? Or, Is there a way to show what's connected to it?
[21:27] <Mr_Bad_News> what do i need to get xchat to use it channeling
[21:27] <channeling> I'm using i2p for anonymous chat
[21:27] <nixnoob_> LinuxIST: did you do sudo updatedb?
[21:28] <lakjin> .
[21:28] <LinuxIST> one sec
[21:28] <kwitt> I keep having kde change permissions on .ICEAuthority.  I changed them back and now whenever I try to log into KDE it says that the dcopserver may not be running, what is going on here?
[21:28] <sugi> How do I remove ATI Video Card drivers?
[21:28] <channeling> Mr_Bad_News you have to configure xchat to use the proxy
[21:28] <channeling> Mr_Bad_News you have to configure xchat to use the proxy
[21:28] <channeling> sorry
[21:29] <Abed> so Gnea any Ideas???
[21:29] <Abed> Gnea i will test the rc.local
[21:29] <Mr_Bad_News> which one channeling ?
[21:29] <Mr_Bad_News> Jul 28 14:04:06.000 [notice] Tor has successfully opened a circuit. Looks like client functionality is working. Jul 28 14:05:38.646 [warn] Received http status code 404 ("Not found") from server '<IP_ADDRESS>:9030' while fetching "/tor/status/fp/38D4F5FCF7B1023228B895EA56EDE7D5CCDCAF32.z".
[21:29] <Gnea> Abed: there seems to be a known issue with that
[21:29] <channeling> Mr_Bad_News löök at preferences -  Options - NetworkSettings
[21:29] <Gnea> sugi: not at all
[21:29] <Mr_Bad_News> what proxy ?
[21:30] <Gnea> sugi: vesa is a default driver, it will work with any modern video card
[21:30] <channeling> Mr_Bad_News Hostname <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:30] <Mr_Bad_News> the <IP_ADDRESS> one
[21:30] <channeling> port 9050
[21:30] <Mr_Bad_News> port type channeling ?
[21:30] <Mr_Bad_News> or does that go in the bind to :
[21:30] <channeling> Type : Socks 5 (I'm not sure)
[21:31] <sugi> Gnea: What happens if I want Direct Rendering, let's say for Games i want to play in Wine?
[21:31] <phrozen77> anyone has an idea how to abonnement a mailinglist with evolution? the respective fields are grayed out and inaccessible
[21:31] <rvhi> hi, i have one particular log file in /var/log that I don't want to be part of log rotate. It is not a big file and i'd like to keep the log forever. How to remove it from log rotate?
[21:31] <Mr_Bad_News> didnt connect
[21:31] <Mr_Bad_News> * Looking up  <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:31] <Mr_Bad_News> * Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled it?
[21:31] <D_Graham>  any1 here have a problem with myspace im and pidgin? i added my myspace acct now all protocols want to add my myspace friends to the buddy list
[21:32] <pirx_> hi! is there some info window about the hardware in the computer in ubuntu?
[21:32] <kwadronaut> is it possible with nm-applet to switch hosts file according to the network you're on?
[21:32] <Mr_Bad_News> does my unique handle have to be a registered domain channeling or can it just be anything
[21:32] <channeling> Mr_Bad_News <IP_ADDRESS> is localhost, in this case your computer
[21:32] <Mr_Bad_News> in torrc
[21:33] <Gnea> sugi: you're not supposed to drop to the vesa driver until you're about to remove the ati and install the nvidia
[21:33] <channeling> Mr_Bad_News wait a moment, please, I'll have a look at mine torcc
[21:33] <shellnix22> can ANYONE tell me what chmod to use in order for me to get access to my ***** NAS? chmod 777 doesnt cut it. it still gives me access denied
[21:33] <phrozen77> anyone has an idea how to abonnement a mailinglist with evolution? the respective fields are grayed out and inaccessible
[21:34] <Gnea> shellnix22: access how?
[21:34] <J-_> How can I see if my mouse is connected to my server with a command?
[21:34] <jh5386> can anyone help me with a networking problem?
[21:34] <LinuxIST> updating
[21:34] <shellnix22> Gnea: im trying to access my nfs shared hdd.. but it keeps telling me i dont have access
[21:34] <Gnea> !ask | jh5386
[21:35] <nando_> Hello
[21:35] <leveld> hi does anyone know how to read PGP encrypted e-mails in Evolution? I end up with an empty message and an attachment that contains the cleartext but is not displayed in evolution
[21:35] <Gnea> shellnix22: hrm, i'm not very good with nfs.. perhaps someone else is
[21:35] <nando_> anyone how to install openal?
[21:35] <channeling> Mr_Bad_News have you forwarded  port 9050 in your firewall/router settings?
[21:35] <sugi> Gnea: Should I change to vesa drivers before or after I install the nvidia drivers.  I want to change video cards right now.  So, I don't mind change the drivers.
[21:35] <Mr_Bad_News> i dont have one
[21:36] <nando_> anyone how to install openal?
[21:36] <J-_> blah!
[21:36] <Gnea> sugi: change the driver now, remove the ati, install the nvidia, when then nvidia boots up, install the restricted nvidia driver
[21:36] <leveld> hi does anyone know how to read PGP encrypted e-mails in Evolution? I end up with an empty message and an attachment that contains the cleartext but is not displayed in evolution
[21:36] <Mr_Bad_News> how do i turn of tor and privoxy channeling
[21:36] <jh5386> my laptop used to see other pcs on the workgroup but now it will not see pcs or share, and i have reinstalled samba
[21:36] <Mr_Bad_News> in case it messes something up
[21:37] <Guest57231> is anyone here
[21:37] <sugi> Gnea:  Sorry for this stupid question, but how do I change the drivers?  Do I just uncheck it in "Hardware Drivers" in System > Administration?
[21:37] <channeling> Mr_Bad_News, sudo /etc/init.d/tor stop
[21:38] <Mr_Bad_News> same for privoxy?
[21:38] <channeling> privoxy the same
[21:38] <Mr_Bad_News> k
[21:38] <whatspy> join ##php
[21:38] <whatspy> oops
[21:38] <[tasty]freeze> does anyone have any driver information about the 3com 3c996b-t (gigabit card).  I am unsure if ubuntu is selecting the correct driver on bootup since I am unable to aquire a DHCP address.
[21:38] <Mr_Bad_News> is that how you stop anything ?
[21:38] <[tasty]freeze> It appears to have a broadcom chip on it
[21:38] <channeling> Mr_Bad_News, sudo /etc/init.d/tor start / stop /restart
[21:38] <Mr_Bad_News> and why is stop and start at the end ?
[21:38] <marcelo> hello! I have to read a txt file in c++. each line has 255 characters, and i want to read the characters from 03 to 07. I'm using getlile(to select the line, and the get to select the characters. Could i do it simpler?)
[21:38] <channeling> yes
[21:39] <leveld> hi does anyone know how to read PGP encrypted e-mails in Evolution? I end up with an empty message and an attachment that contains the cleartext but is not displayed in evolution
[21:39] <EvilDennisR> marcelo: ..what? Last time I checked this wasn't #cpp
[21:39] <fac3less> Is there any valid reason why the 'detect displays' button within the screen resolution app. doesn't work at all?
[21:39] <erUSUL> leveld: they just work for me (tm) nothng special is needed
[21:40] <jbrouhard> Anyone heard of customizing the terminal profile (i.e. /etc/profile) and making it work across the board ?
[21:40] <leveld> erUSUL: well, the problem is, I get to enter my keyphrase but then I end up with an empty message and an "attachment.dat"
[21:40] <marcelo> EvilDnnisR: Yes, the cpp language
[21:40] <xz-> can anyone help me to create a /home partition and install ubuntu? i have 2 HDD and Vista Premium installed on one of them.  i tried reading various guides online but i just can't understand any of them =(
[21:40] <channeling> Mr_Bad_News, with sudo /etc/init.d/ you can stop start and restart services
[21:41] <leveld> erUSUL: I cannot get the attachment.dat to be displayed... other than save it and open it with gedit.
[21:41] <EvilDennisR> marcelo: You misunderstood. Last time I checked, this channel, #ubuntu, wasn't the irc channel #cpp -- as in, why are you asking a coding question in here
[21:41] <Gnea> sugi: iirc, it's administration->display
[21:41] <sugi> Gnea: Thanks
[21:41] <erUSUL> leveld: i think the problem is on the sending end. pgp data should not be on a something.dat attachment ?
[21:41] <grindhold_> may a buggy mainboard be a reason for ubuntu not starting from cd?
[21:42] <Gnea> grindhold_: could be. or could be a faulty ide cable.
[21:42] <rconan> grindhold_, definitely
[21:42] <leveld> erUSUL: I know the guy uses thunderbird and enigmail. Is there any option that he needs to check in order to send me messages that I can read?
[21:42] <KR-data> hi, I have Das Keyboard III, it works fine until I turn on my printer, then it seems just to disconnect, and it won't reconnect. What can I do?
[21:42] <shellnix22> I love linux
[21:42] <marcelo> EvilDennisR: I'm sorry, i didn't understand the xchat very well. In what channel schould i ask?
[21:43] <sugi> Gnea, 8.04 Hard Heron, Does not have the Administration > "Display" anymore....
[21:43] <Gnea> KR-data: don't use the printer
[21:43] <grindhold_> rconan: even if the computer works with windows (buggy but it works)
[21:43] <shellnix22> but now i have headache after 4 hours of permission denied :/
[21:43] <erUSUL> leveld: maibe he need to set to send the mail as pgp/mime and not as acii armored??
[21:43] <grindhold_> shellnix22: who doesn't love linux? oO
[21:43] <rconan> grindhold_, yes
[21:43] <Gnea> sugi: argh... i'm on kubuntu right now too
[21:43] <EvilDennisR> marcelo: Maybe #cpp ?
[21:43] <shellnix22> grindhold_: winblowz users :p
[21:43] <marcelo> ok
[21:43] <channeling> xz- to install ubuntu you have to create a partions formatted in ext3 for your Ubuntu and set the mointpoint to     /
[21:43] <leveld> erUSUL: probably, I'll let him know
[21:43] <grindhold_> okay thx, rconan
[21:43] <erUSUL> leveld: ascii armored* (or something like that may be called inline)
[21:43] <KR-data> Gnea, and then write 200 pages from the computer to the hand?
[21:43] <rconan> grindhold_, if you have a known dodgy mainboard you can't guarantee anything about anything
[21:43] <sugi> Gnea: I am under Gnome of Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy...
[21:44] <Gnea> KR-data: what printer is it?
[21:44] <sugi> Gnea: How do you bring up "Display" from the terminal?  It should still be there *installed with Hardy*?
[21:44] <channeling> xz- then you have to create a swap artition, which you simply make as swap and it should be as great as your RAM
[21:44] <KR-data> Gnea, HP LaserJet M1005 MFP
[21:45] <Gnea> sugi: just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:45] <ozzloy> my screen went to 1280x768 when i rebooted.  it was 1650x1080.  how do i set it back
[21:45] <ozzloy> ?
[21:45] <channeling> xz- finally you create a partition for your home also ext3 and mounted to /home
[21:45] <Abe1> hey Gnea i tested /etc/rc.local and it fails too { the bluetooth work but the brightness not }
[21:45] <sugi> ozzloy: Do you mean 1650x1050?
[21:46] <snoh> i have 32bit and 64bit ubuntu installed, using same /home for both, how do i tell if i run 64bit so i can run the right version of a program
[21:46] <fairchild> it seems no matter what i do my php files wont execute, they just download
[21:46] <ozzloy> sugi: um maybe?
[21:46] <fairchild> argh..
[21:46] <xz-> channeling i have no idea how to make partitions... and what is ext3, mointpoint, "mounted to /home"??? =(
[21:46] <fyre|work> !fixres > ozzloy
[21:46] <Abe1> Gnea i have in the modprobe .d { i added this according to an article I've read} omnibook file and wrote inside it omnibook ectype=14 so why in the tut i did that and it is not working at the startup
[21:46] <jarlen> Anyone who has experince sync'ing a HTC phone with Ubuntu? or just know if it's possible at all
[21:46] <channeling> ext3 is the linux filesystem, like NTFS is it for Windows
[21:46] <jarlen> I'd like to be able to sync contacts and calendar events
[21:47] <shellnix22> except that ntfs is obsolete crap
[21:47] <ozzloy> fyre|work: thanks
[21:47] <gOETTLE> Is there a free screen recorder for Ubuntu?
[21:47] <fyre|work> jarlen: afaik, its not possible.
[21:47] <fyre|work> !screencast | g0tcha-
[21:47] <fyre|work> whoops
[21:47] <jarlen> hm, feared so
[21:47] <Abe1> !istanbul gOETTILE
[21:47] <channeling> xz- maybe it is a good idea to read the final steps for Ubuntu on Ubuntu.com
[21:48] <Abe1> !istanbul  | gOETTILE
[21:48] <fyre|work> Abe1: perhaps you want !info istanbul ;)
[21:48] <TiredWolf> !info istanbul
[21:48] <Abe1> gOETTILE type in the terminal sudo apt-get install istanbul
[21:48] <Abe1>  hey Gnea i tested /etc/rc.local and it fails too { the bluetooth work but the brightness not }
[21:49] <xz-> channeling where is "final steps"??
[21:50] <Gnea> Abe1: well, it's supposed to be "option omnibook ectype=14" not "omnibook ectype=14", and that has nothing to do with the brightness issue - something in X is taking over for the brightness setting - you'll need to find those in the preferences
[21:50] <tavi> hy
[21:50] <henux> How do I make my Ubuntu to boot super fast and furious?
[21:50] <Abe1> Gnea thnx
[21:50] <tavi> someone know well bery;?
[21:50] <gOETTLE> Should I dual-boot Vista and Ubuntu? or just keep using Ubuntu in a VirtualMachine?
[21:51] <EvilDennisR> henux: gksudo rm -rf /
[21:51] <tavi> errrr
[21:51] <tavi> man anyone know come toa private
[21:51] <henux> EvilDennisR: got it
[21:51] <Starnestommy> EvilDennisR: DO NOT TELL PEOPLE TO USE THAT COMMAND
[21:51] <EvilDennisR> Starnestommy: he wanted to boot fast!!
[21:51] <henux> EvilDennisR: it did not work
[21:51] <Starnestommy> henux: that command deletes everything
[21:51] <henux> I know i know
[21:51] <henux> :)
[21:51] <channeling> xz- https://help.ubuntu.com/
[21:52] <deever> anyone here with a ALC885 audio card?
[21:52]  * Gnea eyes EvilDennisR
[21:52] <henux> EvilDennisR: you are being silly but i like silly men
[21:52] <henux> EvilDennisR: are you tall also?
[21:52] <tjcrazy> Can someone help me here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=873074
[21:53] <EvilDennisR> henux: No, not particuarlly. 5'7"
[21:53] <EvilDennisR> henux: However, I do have a girlfriend
[21:53] <deever> according to lspci it is an Intel 82801H HD Audio Controller
[21:53] <EvilDennisR> henux: Nor am I interested in a boyfriend, or a trap
[21:53] <henux> EvilDennisR: oh then i dont like you anymore
[21:53] <Starnestommy> !ot
[21:53] <EvilDennisR> henux: ..and this is ot
[21:53] <deever> but it is silent. Anyone with it working here?
[21:54] <tjcrazy> Can anyone help me with ALC888 drivers?
[21:54] <jh5386> can someone help me my laptop used to see other pcs on the workgroup but now it will not see pcs or share, and i have reinstalled samba
[21:54] <deadbeef> does anyone know where I can configure the weather applet that comes with the clock in Ubuntu? It doesn't play nice when you boot without a network connection.
[21:54] <deever> usb audio works well, btw
[21:54] <gOETTLE> join/ #chris
[21:54] <tom17bombadil_> hello
[21:54] <askand> Where can I find info about the free ATI-driver?
[21:54] <xz-> i burned the .iso image of ubuntu 8.04 onto a CD as a bootdisk but i can't get it to run... do i have to burn it as a regular CD instead?
[21:54] <tavi> someone know beryl compiz?
[21:55] <tavi> come toa private
[21:55] <Starnestommy> tavi: beryl has been replaced with compiz-fusion
[21:55] <giacomo_carissim> xz-, you should just burn the iso as is, nothing more
[21:55] <tom17bombadil_> i am playing around with blender a bit. and from time to time it crashes. but there is nothing said about it in /var/log/messages
[21:55] <MindChild> Ok, Installed Ubuntu on my wifes machine. Followed the sound troubleshooting wiki. Everything checks out. The mixer seems to work. Sound works on an alternate partition in windows. The drivers are loaded, the sound card is supported etc... you just hear nothing. How would I go about addressing this
[21:55] <tjcrazy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=873074
[21:55] <giacomo_carissim> xz-, as in, dont choose any options... what are you using to burn it?
[21:55] <xz-> Nero Express
[21:56] <tom17bombadil_> (how) can i control, which applications do logging?
[21:56] <rconan> xz-, you're looking for a function called something like "write image to disk"
[21:56] <tjcrazy> Can someone help me with realtek alc888 drivers either on irc or forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=873074)
[21:56] <Gnea> MindChild: i would check the hardware, make sure everything's plugged in right
[21:57] <xz-> "image recorder"??
[21:57] <Gnea> !repeat | tjcrazy
[21:57] <tavi> know that Starnestommy
[21:57] <tjcrazy> I have the same problem as MindChild
[21:57] <xubuntu> hi
[21:57] <tavi> but i have a problem
[21:57] <deadbeef> where can I see the configuration of the clock in Gnome, is there a conf file somewhere?
[21:57] <xubuntu> my screensaver doesn't get activated, no mather what I've tried so far. can someone help me?
[21:58] <testhere> justMeHere
[21:58] <EvilDennisR> krazihrz: {S Chronic
[21:58] <MindChild> Gnea: Sound comes out of the speakers when booted in windows. That cant possibly be it
[21:58] <tjcrazy> !patience
[21:58] <giacomo_carissim> can someone help me fix my filesystem.  i can't log into my user account because i think i messed up encfs somehow.  can anyone help me recover my system?
[21:58] <krazihrz> EvilDennisR: so it's "rm -rf /bin" to fix ?
[21:59] <shin> Hello, I've some problem whit Hardy, I can't go too this site: http://gagnetawii.com/?Chiharu :s Is it me or is it the website?
[21:59] <EvilDennisR> krazihrz: No no, chmod -x /bin/*
[21:59] <MindChild> I dont really need any hand holding. I just have no idea where to go from here. Ive always used slackware and gentoo and I feel like Ill probably screw up the whole thing if I start compiling a custom kernel
[21:59] <cynewave> can you reboot into single user?
[21:59] <cynewave> giacomo - that was for you
[21:59] <crimsun> MindChild: run alsa-info.sh and tell me the url.
[21:59] <stevierock> hey yo
[22:00] <crimsun> MindChild: the url for alsa-info.sh is on wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems
[22:00] <xubuntu> I checked "Activate screensaver when computer is idle" but it doesn't activate the screensaver
[22:00] <channeling> shin , I can get to there
[22:00] <EvilDennisR> krazihrz: /bin/chmod got chmoded -x, how do you fix it - was a Google applicant question
[22:00] <krazihrz> EvilDennisR: yes, you're brother told me
[22:00] <krazihrz> EvilDennisR: didn't sound too hard
[22:00] <EvilDennisR> krazihrz: Disable their account!
[22:00] <david__> Are there any thorough howtos out there on aticonfig / not breaking gnome/metacity whenever trying to setup dual monitors? :)
[22:01] <stevierock> anybody want to take a crack at figuring out xineama on hardy for a c700 laptop for a paypal tip?
[22:01] <shin> channeling: Thx, I reboot, may be it can resolve the problem
[22:01] <EvilDennisR> krazihrz: Naw, you can use perl to chmod +x, you could of scp'd a copy from somewhere, or you could cat /bin/chmod > somefile that is +x and run ./somefile +x /bin/chmod -- Theres a bunch of solutions
[22:01] <xubuntu> what could be the issue for the screensaver refusing to start?
[22:03] <cynewave> anyone here know how to address the wireless network drops in ubuntu 8?
[22:03] <abbe> just announcing I GOT MY BOX TO FINALLY WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:03] <abbe> alright bye
[22:03] <EvilDennisR> abbe++
[22:03] <abbe> mucho gracias
[22:03] <erUSUL> !yay | abbe
[22:03] <xubuntu> noone knows?
[22:03] <krazihrz> cynewave: are you sure it's ubunu 8?
[22:03] <EvilDennisR> xubuntu: ..whats the error you're gettin'
[22:04] <cynewave> ?? what do you mean?
[22:04] <cynewave> 8.04
[22:04] <xubuntu> no error at all. the screensaver simply doesn't activate
[22:04] <tjcrazy> Can anyone help, I have no sound I have followed everything!
[22:04] <cypherdelic> I want to know how to prevent gnome-panel temporarily from auto-restart, because i want to start it myself to create a valgrind memeryleak log. any suggestions?
[22:04] <xubuntu> the screen gets blank after the time set. but the screensaver doesn't appear
[22:04] <kwadronaut> is it possible with nm-applet to switch hosts file according to the network you're on?
[22:04] <stevierock> anybody know dual screen for 8.04?
[22:04] <channeling> xubuntu, have you fixed the time of beeing idle to start the screensaver?
[22:04] <EvilDennisR> xubuntu: Dude, you just didn't set a screensaver
[22:04] <kkrusty> has anyone done a headless install of ubuntu?
[22:04] <Stormx2> !dualhead | stevierock
[22:04] <xubuntu> believer me, I did
[22:04] <EvilDennisR> xubuntu: it defaults to blank screen if I recall..
[22:05] <EvilDennisR> xubuntu: xscreensaver or gnome-screensaver ?
[22:05] <xubuntu> time is set to 3 minutes. and blank to 10 minutes. it just gets blank after 3. no screen saver ever
[22:05] <cynewave> no one here has had the wireless drop problem?
[22:05] <nando_> how do i install awn from the repository
[22:05] <krazihrz> cynewave: wireless card information could be helpful
[22:05] <EvilDennisR> !wireless
[22:05] <xubuntu> EvilDennisR: I don'T really know. I used the xfce settings gui
[22:05] <tjcrazy> Anyone good enough to help me fix sound problem?
[22:05] <Stormx2> !awn | nand
[22:06] <EvilDennisR> xubuntu: do xscreensaver-demo
[22:06] <EvilDennisR> xubuntu: that should pop up the config window, maek sure stuff is set accordingly..
[22:06] <Miesco> What version of python should I have
[22:06] <nand> uh?
[22:06] <Pici> Miesco: For which version of Ubuntu?
[22:06] <xubuntu> >> The program 'xscreensaver-demo' is currently not installed.
[22:06] <FrozenFire> Hey all, I'm trying to install the drivers for a USB Elo touchscreen. I'm having enormous issues doing so. Are there any significant system changes between Ubuntu 7.04 and 8.04 that would cause issues with this? I'm currently running Kubuntu.
[22:06] <cynewave> Im using the iwl 3945 drivers
[22:07] <ifireball> cypherdelic: run gnome-session-properties you can change the behaviour there in the "current session" tab
[22:07] <krazihrz> cynewave: what kind of card is it
[22:07] <ozzloy> i just followed steps here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto  now my resolution is even worse.  what else should i try?
[22:07] <Miesco> Pici: latest
[22:07] <deadbeef> where can I see the configuration of the clock in Gnome, is there a conf file somewhere?
[22:07] <Pici> Miesco: 2.5.2-0ubuntu1
[22:07] <dcoy55b> quit
[22:08] <krazihrz> deadbeef: just clikc on the clock
[22:08] <ZStar> How do I get access to packages on the internet?
[22:08] <deadbeef> krazihrz, I'm interested in modifying the weather part of the clock
[22:08] <deadbeef> I want to see what options there are
[22:08] <deadbeef> in terms of refresh
[22:08] <krazihrz> deadbeef: right click on it
[22:08] <deadbeef> the GUI doesn't provide that
[22:08] <ZStar> I opened a terminal
[22:08] <krazihrz> oh
[22:08] <rubikcube> hi, do can someone please tell me where dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-${version} takes the modules from to compile into?  Only from /etc/initramfs-tools/modules or from other sources as well?
[22:09] <pogay> Ich hab grad gsynaptics eingerichtet, um das Touchpad zu konfigurieren, ja, dann kann man es nach einer Aktvierung im Xorg.conf über die Einstellungen konfigurieren, danke.
[22:09] <Pici> !de | pogay
[22:09] <krazihrz> deadbeef: good luck
[22:09] <stevierock> ubotto: unsuccessfully tried to get xinerama to work
[22:09] <tonohono> xubuntu: After dragging the bar to select the time for the screensaver to start, while the bar it still highlight, press "enter". Perhaps hit a few times for good measure. It could be a fluke, but it works for me when my screensaver refused to activate.
[22:09] <deadbeef> heh :x ty
[22:09] <Pici> ZStar: sudo aptitude   perhaps?
[22:09] <Pici> stevierock: ubottu is a bot.
[22:09] <stevierock> nice
[22:09] <channeling> ZStar sudo apt-get install
[22:09] <cynewave> krazihr - did you get that?
[22:10] <krazihrz> deadbeef: you can add a panel applet that does the same thing, and u can setup update time
[22:10] <Miesco> I get this when I run solfege: IndexError: list index out of range
[22:10] <deadbeef> krazihrz, thought about that, but it doesn't give you a nice summary when you hover over it :(
[22:10] <krazihrz> cynewave: you told me the drivers, you didn't specify the card
[22:10] <cynewave> The gateway website says it is a realtek card but the chipset is intel.
[22:11] <krazihrz> deadbeef: hmm it does for me
[22:11] <ZStar> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:11] <xubuntu> why should I use xscreensaver and not gnome-screensaver?
[22:11] <cypherdelic> ifireball: thanks a lot man
[22:11] <deadbeef> all it says on mine is "city : some cloud condition"
[22:11] <tavi> someone help me?
[22:11] <xFlipx> anybody having issues with flv video stopping :02 seconds into the stream in firefox?
[22:11] <deadbeef> the one that comes with the clock has a multi-line summary
[22:11] <tavi> how i install strong dc toa ubuntu?
[22:11] <stevierock> any pointers to an 8.04 xorg.conf file for xinerama?
[22:12] <ZStar> channeling: see above
[22:12] <krazihrz> deadbeef: not enough for you?? soo greedy :)
[22:12] <deadbeef> lol
[22:12] <deadbeef> I check the weather like 12 times an hour
[22:12] <deadbeef> it's important :(
[22:12] <solokkhz> hello ubuntu users
[22:13] <Sp0tter> hey soldats
[22:13] <deadbeef> it's ironic because I don't really need to go outside
[22:13] <Sp0tter> except not
[22:13] <deadbeef> and I still check it
[22:13] <krazihrz> you want some serious weather updates, don't setting for the mom and pop app!
[22:13] <solokkhz> i am a proud noob ans a domainer :)
[22:13] <krazihrz> setting=settle
[22:13] <solokkhz> adn
[22:13] <solokkhz> lol
[22:13] <kllschmtt> I bought a laptop vaio with ubuntu 8.04 but your headphone output doesn't work.. someone could help me?
[22:14] <Gh0sty> anyone here know of a bug or has the same problem as me: all of the sudden since an update of hardy around 2 weeks ago my numpad stopped working (and no its not a laptop)
[22:14] <krazihrz> deadbeef: you're better off with the seperate app methinks
[22:14] <solokkhz> any root in here lol
[22:14] <deadbeef> yeah, you're probably right krazihrz. I'll try to figure this out some more, if I can't, I'll go hunting for a pro weather app
[22:14] <solokkhz> :-D
[22:14] <Gillpy> solokkhz: stop spamming or get kicked
[22:14] <ZStar> last time I had ubuntu on my computer I was able to get access to alot of packages but now it's much fewer.  how can I expand the number of packages available?
[22:15] <solokkhz> allready
[22:15] <solokkhz> ?
[22:15] <solokkhz> ok
[22:15] <kllschmtt> I bought a laptop vaio with ubuntu 8.04 but your headphone output doesn't work.. someone could help me?
[22:15] <krazihrz> ZStar: add more repos
[22:15] <deadbeef> kllschmtt, are you sure that the output itself isn't defective?
[22:15] <deadbeef> or your headphones, for that matter?
[22:15] <ZStar> How can I do that with a terminal krazihrz?
[22:15] <krazihrz> kllschmtt: pardon me for seeming rude but, 1 is it plugged in, 2 is the volume up?
[22:16] <deadbeef> LOL ^_^
[22:16] <zvacet> deadbeef : right click on panel and select weather applet maybe it will be better for you just suggestion
[22:16] <krazihrz> ZStar: you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list, but don't go mucking around in there if you don't know what you're dooing, and if u do, make a copy first
[22:16] <deadbeef> yeah zvacet, I already tried it. It would be perfect if it would give me a nice summary like the one that's built into the clock.
[22:17] <IndyGunFreak> stevierock: what graphics device are you trying dual screens w/?
[22:19] <ZStar> how can I map the up arrow command to my right shift?  I lost the button :s
[22:19] <ozzloy> help please!  i followed the instructions here and now my resolution is worse.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto  how do i return to 1680x1050 resolution?
[22:19] <malomalo> anyone have a problem running 'apt-get install imagemagick'?
[22:19] <LinuxIST>  i removed ssb module and ndiswrapper, trying to use fwcutter/bcm4319 and the errors: http://rafb.net/p/hTNh5I14.html
[22:20] <kllschmtt> deadbeef, krazihrz my headphone and my headphone output are working in windows but not in linux..
[22:20] <LinuxIST> if i keep ssb, system freezes
[22:21] <ozzloy> running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org doesn't actually do anything with the monitor.  it just asks about my keyboard and mouse.  how do i reconfigure my monitor resolution?
[22:21] <stevierock> IndyGuyFreek: Intel
[22:21] <zvacet> deadbeef : I supose it depends what we are looking for one build in clock doesn´t show my town
[22:22] <deadbeef> yeah. right now I'm trying to figure out where the gnome settings for the panels are stored
[22:22] <kllschmtt> deadbeef, krazihrz my headphone and my headphone output are working in windows but not in linux..
[22:22] <stevierock> IndyGuyFreak: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[22:23] <xFlipx> How would I go about submitting a confirmed Firefox bug? Would anybody in here be willing to help me confirm?
[22:23] <krazihrz> kllschmtt: did you check the mixer to see if it had been automaticaly muted by linux?
[22:23] <xFlipx> I've already confirmed it to be firefox related but one more person wouldn't hurt
[22:23] <deadbeef> shoot
[22:23] <krazihrz> deadbeef: did you check .gnome?
[22:24] <deadbeef> nope
[22:24] <deadbeef> which dir is it in?
[22:24] <krazihrz> ~/.gnome
[22:24] <krazihrz> but thats not it
[22:24] <krazihrz> just checked mine
[22:24] <deadbeef> :(
[22:24] <zvacet> How can I stop spam here
[22:25] <xFlipx> no kidding I'm getting nailed too zvac
[22:25] <deadbeef> same
[22:25] <deadbeef> something about a tornado
[22:25] <deadbeef> lol
[22:25] <krazihrz> deadbeef: /usr/share/gnome*
[22:25] <deadbeef> chekcing
[22:26] <krazihrz> deadbeef: thats probably your best bet
[22:26] <EvilDennisR> whats 0xdeadbeef trying to do?
[22:27] <deadbeef> krazihrz, looks like a bunch of stuff is in /usr/share/gnome-2.0/ui
[22:27] <deadbeef> EvilDennisR, change the weather settings in the clock
[22:27] <deadbeef> update intervals, etc.
[22:27] <LinuxIST_> http://rafb.net/p/6z8i8837.html
[22:27] <EvilDennisR> deadbeef: you should be able to select your location
[22:27] <deadbeef> the only thing that bugs me is the update interval
[22:27] <deadbeef> everything else works
[22:27] <kllschmtt> krazihrz, mixer does not appear in the option for headphone
[22:28] <EvilDennisR> oh it doesn't update fast enough ?
[22:28] <krazihrz> kllschmtt: you would want to find the generic sound mixer for the machine
[22:28] <deadbeef> that and it dies if you boot up without an internet connection
[22:28] <deadbeef> connection*
[22:28] <deadbeef> i.e., if you're using wireless
[22:28] <krazihrz> kllschmtt: and make sure headphone output is not muted or disabled in anyway
[22:28] <maxrogers> sipior was helping me earlier this morning with a networking issue. Anyone out there that might be able to help me for a bit?
[22:28] <stevierock> anybody have an xorg.conf file for 8.04 xinerama?
[22:29] <simard> for an unknown reason, after some uptime, some X server session switch, ctrl-alt-f1-f6 does not show a login shell anymore, although the screen turns black, and pressing ctrl-alt-f7+ returns in X properly, any idea what can do that ?
[22:30] <ZStar> How do I save a file in vi?
[22:30]  * ZStar couldn't find emacs
[22:30] <simard> :w
[22:30] <maxrogers> I have a laptop with wireless and wired connections. With one connection (wired) I will be accessing iptv content. The other (wireless) will be accessing the Internet. I am trying to (1) make it so that both will work at the same time (2) make it so that they are separate networks.
[22:31] <Gillpy> ZStar: you need to install it, silly
[22:31] <ZStar> no
[22:31] <ujos> hello
[22:31] <ZStar> I need to save a file so I can THEN install it.  Silly.
[22:32] <ujos> please, help. What is the reason of the following message:
[22:32] <ZStar> Hello ujos.
[22:32] <kushalsejwal> what is the command for opening Nautilus with sudo power??? I forgot
[22:32] <ujos> -[ WRITE@LBA=3b4b0h failed with SK=4h/ASC=08h/ACQ=03h]: Input/output error
[22:32] <deadbeef> what IRC client is everyone using?
[22:32] <Aragorn94> XCHAT
[22:32] <deadbeef> gksudo nautilus?
[22:32] <ujos> I got it while burn DVD
[22:32] <Aragorn94> wahoo.
[22:32] <zvacet> kushalsejwal : gksudo nautilus
[22:32] <chuy_max> is there an app to hash an string for ubuntu?, I might create an app to do so (I don't like echoing and piping to md5sum), but wanted to know if there is an app already available
[22:32] <kushalsejwal> deadbeef: thanks
[22:32] <kushalsejwal> zvacet: thanks
[22:32] <Quicksilva> !iphone
[22:32] <zvacet> kushalsejwal : :)
[22:32] <Quicksilva> :(
[22:33] <J-_> sudo fdisk -l doesn't show my external drive, is there anything else I can do to see if I can see it?
[22:33] <Quicksilva> i dont want to have to uninstall ubuntu because i cant get my music into my iphone hmmfff
[22:33] <bonez45> how could I find a list, outlining which video cards clearly have ubuntu drivers..... I want to get a card that will work on my system, which have VIA video on the mobo
[22:33] <cj_> hey, ive asked this question before. But i cant remember the reply. Could someone please tell me how to change themes on ubuntu? easily?
[22:33] <Pici> !changethemes | cj_
[22:34] <cj_> thank you
[22:34] <ZStar> How do I change /etc/apt/sources.list so I can modify and save it?
[22:34] <negge> ZStar: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal
[22:34] <deadbeef> sudo it with your text editor?
[22:34] <LinuxIST> my device that is giving me hell:  06:02.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 [AirForce 54g] 802.11a/b/g PCI Express Transceiver [14e4:4319] (rev 02)
[22:34] <Odd-rationale> ZStar: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst
[22:34] <kushalsejwal> guys I am getting this msg when I try to delete anything from my mp3 player "Error removing file: Read-only file system" while I am using gksudo nautilus???
[22:34] <kushalsejwal> what is the problem???
[22:35] <zvacet> ZStar : gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list when you do what you want save and close file. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:35] <kushalsejwal>  zvacet: . deadbeef:  any idea??
[22:37] <ZStar> I hit reload on synaptic and it couldn't find any repos!
[22:37] <khelll> what is the best graphical interface for diff utility
[22:38] <maxrogers> anyone have a second to help me with a networking related issue? I think I almost have it, but I am stuck with one thing!
[22:38] <Pici> ZStar: Go to system>administration>software sources
[22:38] <deadbeef> when you do Ctrl+F in Nautilus, are searches performed on the contents of files as well as the names?
[22:39] <kushalsejwal> deadbeef :  I am getting this msg when I try to delete anything from my mp3 player "Error removing file: Read-only file system" while I am using gksudo nautilus???, pls help mate
[22:39] <TiredWolf> !best > khelll
[22:39] <deadbeef> can you delete the file through your MP3 players own interface?
[22:39] <TiredWolf> khelll: i like Kompare a lot, but that's a KDE application... although there is a GNOME application that is extremely similar, but i can't recall the name
[22:40] <kushalsejwal> No No my mp3 player is heavily infected with worm and newfolder.exe virus
[22:40] <kushalsejwal> thats why thought of seeking linux help :D
[22:40] <deadbeef> err
[22:40] <deadbeef> what kind of player is it?
[22:40] <dontodd> greets, anybody have experience with secure-delete, sfill in particular?
[22:40] <kushalsejwal> its a simple 1GB player which plays mp3 files
[22:41] <Nocturrrnal> Hi. I just installed Ubuntu, then installed all updates (rebooted), then installed the restricted fglrx driver (through the hardware setup applet, nothing in console). Now when I boot Ubuntu, I get the login prompt as normal, but after logging in my screen turns completely white. Ctrl-alt-backspace and Ctrl-alt-F1 work fine. What can I do?
[22:41] <deadbeef> I honestly don't know :x
[22:41] <EvilDennisR> Nocturrrnal: AAAH! The white screen of death!
[22:41] <kushalsejwal> deadbeef: you know how to format an external device?
[22:41] <Gillpy> WSOD!
[22:42] <deadbeef> no, I've been using Linux for ~36 hours
[22:42] <IndyGunFreak> Nocturrrnal: i think you have to kill compiz.. just another reason ATI sucks.
[22:42] <IndyGunFreak> !wsod
[22:42] <Nocturrrnal> IndyGunFreak: I never activated compiz in the first place...
[22:42] <Nick__> hello
[22:42] <IndyGunFreak> Nocturrrnal: i believe its on by default.
[22:42] <toastaoven> Can someone helpe me understand why, when i try and mount a device it give me the error "x" is not a block device?
[22:42] <kushalsejwal> deadbeef: allright
[22:42] <kushalsejwal> thanks anways :)
[22:42] <kllschmtt> krazihrz, thanks!
[22:43] <Nick__> can anybody help with a question regarding connecting to a windows machine using remote desktop?
[22:43] <deadbeef> when you do Ctrl+F in Nautilus, are searches performed on the contents of files as well as the names? If not, how can I search through the contents?
[22:43] <di||itante> before I file a bug: in 8.04 with a HP laser Jet 2100. Evince, when told to use tray 2 and print on Legal paper will only print the first page of a multi page doc on the correct size paper. After page 1 it switches to tray 3. Anyone else with this issue?
[22:43] <Gillpy> !ask > Nick__
[22:43] <Luftritter> Hello
[22:43] <Gillpy> !hi > Luftritter
[22:44] <newbe1> Hello
[22:44] <ZStar> What do I do in Software Sources?
[22:44] <Nick__> how do i connect to a windows machine using remote desktop?
[22:45] <ZStar> Oh, I got it :)
[22:45] <EvilDennisR> Nick__: rdesktop windowmachine
[22:45] <timminn> rdesktop
[22:45] <IrCYop> Hey I do not get any sound form my usb headset on my xubuntu 8.04 but it works on windows, even though in settings I tell it to use logitech USB headset, and on alsamixer in a terminal showing my logitech usb headset, the volume up, but no sound, and in menu>settings>settings manager>sound   the speaker check box still refuses to stay checked for logitech USB sound
[22:45] <Nick__> how do i install it?
[22:46] <EvilDennisR> I think its already installed..
[22:46] <newbe1> any other interesting chat pa ges
[22:46] <Nick__> what do i need to do in order to connect
[22:46] <newbe1> pages
[22:47] <ZStar> blah
[22:47] <ZStar> can't download packages because they weren't found.
[22:47] <channeling> ZStar, is it Synaptic?
[22:48] <zvacet> ZStar : did you checked everythind under ubuntu software and updates tab ?
[22:48] <zvacet> ZStar : whick package you are looking for
[22:49] <ZStar> emacs
[22:49] <cj_> hey thanks for the info on how to change themes, i have found that now :) but how/where can i get new themes to download?
[22:49] <ZStar> actually
[22:49] <ZStar> a whole list of packages
[22:50] <simotempler> Anyone here know how to get flash working in opera
[22:50] <simotempler> or is it impossible
[22:51] <EvilDennisR> simotempler: Yeah, just don't use opera
[22:51] <simotempler> LOL
[22:51] <simotempler> is it impossible
[22:51] <Nocturrrnal> IndyGunFreak: I also get the following in my Xorg.0.log. Maybe it is related? http://paste.ubuntu.com/31478/
[22:52] <EvilDennisR> simplexio: if I told you no, does that mean you would use firefox instead ?
[22:52] <crashdown> hello
[22:53] <crashdown> any one on
[22:53] <Gillpy> simotempler: it's not impossible
[22:53] <crashdown> whats impossible
[22:53] <crashdown> ?
[22:53] <tavi> how i do a side bar
[22:54] <tavi> like here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7QraljRfM
[22:54] <tavi> ?
[22:54] <FloodBot1> tavi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:54] <zvacet> ZStar : if your source list look like http://paste.ubuntu.com/31479/  you should be able to find emacs and other packages
[22:54] <crashdown> go download gkrellm
[22:54] <crashdown> its a side bar
[22:54] <Gillpy> I think you just have to copy libflashplugin.so  to  /usr/lib/opera/plugins/
[22:54] <crashdown> you could make one
[22:54] <tavi> how?
[22:54] <crashdown> it woulsd take a long time
[22:55] <tavi> no matter
[22:55] <crashdown> #sudo apt-get install gkrellm
[22:55] <thansen|laptop> can someone help me get sound pumping out of my usb sound card?
[22:55] <zvacet> simotempler : in Opera>tools>preferences<advaced>content<plugin options>find new
[22:55] <YuriQ> Anyone have 3D acceleration working on a thinkpad X31? (Ati Radeon Mobility M6 card)
[22:55] <crashdown> fuck you all
[22:55] <crashdown> i got bored
[22:56] <thansen|laptop> I want all sound to go do my digital receiver via spdif
[22:56] <crashdown> i'll rip your spine out
[22:56] <simotempler> cheers
[22:56] <crashdown> no probs
[22:56] <simotempler> restarted since i installed and it works now
[22:57] <trigpin> would you recomen running winxp in vitual box or should i use another virutal enviorment ?
[22:58] <zvacet> trigpin : virtual box or vmware server
[22:58] <LinuxIST> Has anyone succefully configure bcm4319 --[14e4:4319] (rev 02) ?
[22:59] <trigpin> zvacet : which one would you recomend and do games run well on it ?
[22:59] <deadbeef> ugh, is it possible for me to have my Windows machine's host names resolved to their IP's from linux?
[23:00] <deadbeef> I'd like to use tsclient with the hostname directly, if possible
[23:00] <unop> LinuxIST, have you seen this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:00] <deadbeef> er machine name
[23:01] <crimsun> LinuxIST: it definitely works with ndiswrapper.
[23:01] <crimsun> LinuxIST: and /should/ work with current b43.
[23:01] <mbrigdan> hey, are the forums down? I get a 503 error when I try to view the page.
[23:01] <unop> deadbeef, setup a DNS server or add the hostnames you want resolving to /etc/hosts
[23:01] <deadbeef> oh snap
[23:01] <LinuxIST> crimsun, nope ndiswrapper disable the irq
[23:01] <deadbeef> I thought it would be easy :X
[23:01] <LinuxIST> and b43 drivers causes a freeze
[23:01] <unop> deadbeef, /etc/hosts is quick and easy
[23:02] <trigpin> mbrigdan: yes i think they are , or atleast very slow
[23:02] <arooni> say i want to print 4 open office documents... is there a faster way than opening each of them, and selecting print?
[23:02] <crimsun> LinuxIST: interesting.  It definitely worked on the machine I tried yesterday.
[23:02] <Nocturrrnal> deadbeef: unop's method is way less work, but i know it's possible automatically... search for winbind
[23:02] <LinuxIST> crimsun, you have the bmc 4319
[23:02] <LinuxIST> ?
[23:02] <deadbeef> ty unop, I'll google around
[23:03] <deadbeef> unop, this is a per-linux-machine solution yes?
[23:03] <gutonjusa> any BR here
[23:03] <trigpin> forums are fine now just looked
[23:03] <crimsun> LinuxIST: on another machine, yes.
[23:03] <LinuxIST> what machine
[23:03] <LinuxIST> ?
[23:03] <unop> deadbeef, well, you can share /etc/hosts using something like NIS/NIS+ .. but usually it is a per machine setup, yes
[23:03] <deadbeef> thank you sir
[23:03] <deadbeef> hopefully I won't kill my install
[23:04] <mbrigdan> trigpin, :(, hope someone isn't trying to DoS ubuntu, that would be bad. Its probably from /. or something though
[23:04] <LinuxIST> crimsun, my machine is a hp dv8000z
[23:06] <trigpin> mbrigdam: nah some one problay just fell over a wire  at ubuntu hq ;)
[23:06] <zvacet> trigpin : I never used virtual box so I can not tell you anything about it and I´m not a gamer maybe you should look in http://appdb.winehq.org/
[23:06] <tavi> hy
[23:07] <tavi> how i install strong dc
[23:07] <tavi> ?
[23:07] <trigpin> zvacet: i was think of playing online with punk buster
[23:07] <zvacet> trigpin : sorry,like I said I´m not a gamer so I can not help you on that one
[23:08] <deever> http://rafb.net/p/d3ZYVA18.html
[23:08] <deever> why the hell doesn't this work, WHY!?
[23:08] <deadbeef> unop, what happens if my Windows' machines IP's aren't static?
[23:08] <trigpin> zvacet: don't apologize you have already been a great help =)
[23:09] <unop> deadbeef, use a name resolution server like bind (dns) or winbind (netbios)
[23:09] <zvacet> trigpin : O.K. then
[23:09] <deadbeef> I'll try, ty again
[23:10] <unop> deadbeef, i'd say use the latter -- as name resolution is automatic -- with DNS, the clients need to update the server on their hostnames
[23:10] <deadbeef> so NetBIOS is the best choice?
[23:10] <unop> only with windows machine or unix machines running nmbd
[23:11] <deadbeef> ty for the help
[23:11] <unop> netBIOS is pretty much a microsoft only thing
[23:12] <ozzloy> i have the driver for my intel video card installed, but i'm still not getting the right resolution.  how do i troubleshoot this?
[23:12] <Dedi> anyone managed to get ubuntu-modules running with a custom compiled kernel? (what i did yet: http://tinyurl.com/5szfrd )
[23:12] <mbrigdan> anyone know what the random current.iso file on my desktop does?
[23:13] <Miesco> http://miesco.homelinux.org/~shawn/Screenshot-ZynAddSubFX.png -- How come the text is bigger then its suppost to be?
[23:13] <Miesco> The GUI is messed up
[23:13] <Aval0n> hey guys I used ubuntu for a while and I've done a couple version upgrades
[23:14] <Aval0n> I seem to have a lot of space taken up
[23:14] <Aval0n> that shouldn't be
[23:14] <Aval0n> what's the easliest way to find old stuff not needed anymore
[23:14] <unop> deadbeef, have a read here.  http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/excerpt/samba_chap7/index.html?page=2 # see the option "name resolve order" - it needs to use bcast so your linux machine will send a broadcast message to all hosts on the network to resolve names
[23:14] <Aval0n> I've done stuff like apt-get clean etc...
[23:15] <efrem> trogdoor
[23:15] <efrem> checking to see if trogdoor is available.  I have a couple of questions for you.
[23:15] <Copperpot> hello everybody
[23:15] <unop> deadbeef, or something more authoritative - http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/integrate-ms-networks.html#id2661636
[23:16] <daysleepr> hello all, i'm trying to create a password free login on my ubuntu server... i've copied the id_dsa.pub file from the client to the $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys but it still asks for a password
[23:16] <deadbeef> oh very nice, thanks again unop
[23:18] <Rev> does someone know how to know the frequency of the RAM?
[23:18] <Rev> i did a lshw but i got no precise info on the RAM memory
[23:19] <genii> Rev: Pull it out, google the numbers on it
[23:19] <daysleepr> oh, i got it
[23:19] <daysleepr> thank you!
[23:19] <Rev> genii, good idea, thanks
[23:20] <Rev> wth? i just PMed to join something like lestercoolchat. i thought those kind of bots/scripts were banned here
[23:20] <Rev> i just GOT*
[23:20] <k0nfa> hey guys
[23:20] <Starnestommy> Rev: which nick sent it?
[23:21] <k0nfa> i'm a newbie in Ubuntu/IRC and overall also
[23:21] <Starnestommy> Rev: there's a spammer going around that we're trying to track down
[23:21] <k0nfa> any1 got a minute or 2 for smoe questions
[23:21] <Rev> Starnestommy, <Gary_Andrews> Do u get hard when u see a tornado?
[23:21] <Rev> o.O
[23:21] <Starnestommy> Rev: I think it just got banned from the network.  It might evade that again
[23:21] <Rev> and another one, but i lamely closed the window :/ do you know which command can i use to list allk the persons who PMed ?
[23:21] <evariste> My laptop which is using wifi and windows XP and my desktop computer which is using ethernet and Ubuntu. For the past 15 minutes, the firewall (firestarter)  on my desktop computer has been blocking incoming connections from my laptop (I haven't a clue why it is trying to connect), alternating between port 1947 and 1948 (using protocols UDP and TCP respectively). Do you know what this could be?
[23:21] <Rev> wait, i'll cast a glance at the logs
[23:21] <Rev> wait a sec
[23:22] <gordonjcp> Rev: I'm often tempted to join their networks and spam/troll the absolute crap out of them
[23:22] <k0nfa> what's the #channel for help? beacuse there ar a lot of subchannels
[23:23] <k0nfa> tnx
[23:23] <k0nfa> :P
[23:23] <Rev> Starnestommy, the other one is : taylor_roncancio
[23:23] <Starnestommy> Rev: also banned
[23:23] <nibsa1242b> Is there a package of KQEMU for the current kernel version, or am I going to have to compile it?
[23:23] <regeya> this one k0nfa if you're seeking help in english...some of the subchannels are for other languages
[23:23] <Rev> gordonjcp, indeed ;p
[23:23] <Rev> Starnestommy, perfect, thanks for checking
[23:23] <gordonjcp> Rev: maybe wave metasploit at them ;-)
[23:23]  * gordonjcp -> bed
[23:23] <Starnestommy> Rev: I'm one of the network's staff members who's dealing with this
[23:24] <LinuxIST> crimsun, what machine do you have that uses the bcm4319?
[23:24] <k0nfa> !help
[23:25] <Bodsda> k0nfa, what help are you looking for?
[23:26] <k0nfa> hm...youtube/quicktime =)
[23:26] <Rev> gordonjcp, im not advanced enough in those technics to do that, but i would be glad to see their plans screwed up ;p
[23:26] <k0nfa> Bodsda,
[23:26] <Rev> Starnestommy, ok, i'll keep your nick in mind and warn you if i ever got PMed
[23:26] <Starnestommy> Rev: you could also warn another staffer.  We're usually in #freenode
[23:26] <k0nfa> got some video problems
[23:27] <Rev> ok
[23:27] <Bodsda> k0nfa, if these problems are ubuntu related you can ask your questions here
[23:27] <simplexio>  /last simplexio
[23:27] <k0nfa> i was searching thruogh the foreums..
[23:27] <k0nfa> but I couldn't find a solution
[23:28] <simplexio> EvilDennisR: ??
[23:28] <k0nfa> the thing is when i'm watching youtube videos, the sound is OK but the video is like I'm watching a slideshow
[23:28] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[23:29] <k0nfa> any help is more than welcome
[23:30] <Sydero> whenever I login to irc, I have xchat auto identify me
[23:30] <Sydero> is there a way to encrypt/hide the password, so it's not in plain site if someone were to open the software
[23:31] <Blaqlight> Sydero: not really.
[23:31] <Sydero> because I'm hearing that people are adding sha to their password
[23:31] <Sydero> and possibly encrypting :S
[23:31] <martgag> !SphinXMP3 Celine_Dion_-_A_New_Day...Live_In_Las_Vegas_-01-_Nature_boy.mp3  ::INFO:: 3.9MB
[23:31] <martgag> !SphinXMP3 Celine_Dion_-_A_New_Day...Live_In_Las_Vegas_-02-_It's_all_coming_back_to_me_now.mp3  ::INFO:: 3.3MB
[23:31] <martgag> !SphinXMP3 Celine_Dion_-_A_New_Day...Live_In_Las_Vegas_-03-_Because_you_loved_me.mp3  ::INFO:: 2.3MB
[23:31] <martgag> !SphinXMP3 Celine_Dion_-_A_New_Day...Live_In_Las_Vegas_-04-_I'm_alive.mp3  ::INFO:: 3.9MB
[23:31] <martgag> !SphinXMP3 Celine_Dion_-_A_New_Day...Live_In_Las_Vegas_-05-_If_i_could.mp3  ::INFO:: 4.8MB
[23:31] <FloodBot1> martgag: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:31] <martgag> !SphinXMP3 Celine_Dion_-_A_New_Day...Live_In_Las_Vegas_-06-_At_last.mp3  ::INFO:: 3.2MB
[23:32] <FloodBot1> ubottu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:32] <Blaqlight> Sydero: I use SSL to encrypt on all other servers but this one.
[23:32] <Sydero> so if they get physical access to your machine, and they want to steal your irc password
[23:32] <Baby_Shambl3s> hmm interesting way of bypassing the bot ban
[23:32] <Sydero> it's gameover :P ?
[23:33] <bob3213243_> Okay, could someone set my fears at ease about copying my install of ubuntu via dd and reloading it after format this hard drive. I'm really concerned as I can't really lose anything on this install.
[23:33] <Blaqlight> Sydero: don't use your computer, call them instead.
[23:33] <billy> hey how would i go about installing java on ubuntu 5.1 im kinda a nub but ive used many diffrent linux versions
[23:33] <Blaqlight> !java | billy
[23:33] <Eyemean> hi there, anyone know why when i install ubuntu and grub pc just starts with windows as if ubuntu no installed?
[23:33] <nibsa1242b> Will this guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo) work with Hardy ?
[23:34] <billy> thanks
[23:34] <efrem> I can not download a word document from yahoo.mail unbuntu
[23:34] <Blaqlight> billy: btw we are up to ubuntu 8.04 your version is really old. consider updating
[23:34] <billy> im oin a old dell server and cant instal newer versoins
[23:35] <efrem> I can not download a word document that is attached to an email on ubuntu
[23:35] <efrem> I am attempting to download it from Yahoo Mail.
[23:35] <Blaqlight> efrem: perhaps your mail server is blocking downloading attachments, its common in corporate environments.
[23:36] <billy> i had winblows xp on here and played a few older games thow that was kinda kool
[23:36] <k0nfa> Hello guys, I'll rephrase my problem and describe it a little more specific. I have issues whit watching quicktime trailers and youtube videos(I guess all the other flash videos are similar). The sound in youtube is just fine, but the picture is bad, it's like I'm watching a slideshow rahter then a movie and when I'm trying to watch a quicktime video i get the message no video, eventhoguh i downloaded al the necessary plugins.
[23:36] <k0nfa> :P
[23:36] <Blaqlight> billy if that server will run windows it will run 8.04 just fine :P
[23:36] <efrem> Blaqlight, I am on a home network (DSL)
[23:36] <billy> its with the bios
[23:36] <gutonjusa> look your video card
[23:37] <Blaqlight> efrem: try right click save as them
[23:37] <Blaqlight> then*
[23:38] <user1_> Does any one know if it is possible to control your mouse pointer with the keyboard
[23:38] <billy> im gonna try wine then use internet explorer then use java on that ???
[23:38] <Blaqlight> billy good luck with that.
[23:38] <billy> why would it not work
[23:38] <Jordan_U> billy, What are you trying to do?
[23:38] <Blaqlight> firefox is the default internet browser in ubuntu.
[23:38] <billy> instal java on 5.1 on a old dell server
[23:39] <Jordan_U> billy, And what problem are you running into?
[23:39] <billy> i cant find a older java versoin
[23:39] <efrem> Blaqlight, Thank You.....It works fine now!
[23:39] <Blaqlight> efrem: :D
[23:40] <mlLK> is fuse the most practical solution for file-sharing w/ virtualbox?
[23:41] <dansushi18> hello people, i'm having issued with connecting to another computer on my network. how do i set that up? I'm basically trying to be able to see the files from my other computer, which also runs ubuntu.
[23:41] <Blaqlight> !fuse | mlLK
[23:41] <lunartear> is it possible to setup automated ssh portforwarding through init.d/rc system with system keys rather than user based auth?
[23:41] <mlLK> Blaqlight, i've read all that
[23:41] <mlLK> Blaqlight, looking for a 3rd party opinion
[23:42] <Falstaff> Hello
[23:42] <mlLK> someone running vbox
[23:42] <Blaqlight> mlLK: oh ok.
[23:42] <channeling> billy: http://java.sun.com/products/archive/
[23:42] <billy> are there any good rpg's that play on linux without wine
[23:43] <Blaqlight> !games | billy
[23:43] <billy> thanks you guys are realy help full
[23:43] <newk> when i install gnome do from synaptic it always downloads 0.4 version and i cant get the new version?
[23:43] <mlLK> !tell billy helpful
[23:44] <Blaqlight> newk: try installing from term with sudo aptitude install gnome-desktop
[23:45] <Dedi> billy: no there isnt (because the most are not good ;)
[23:45] <newk> blaqlight its gnome do the application launcher im tryin to install and ive tryed it both ways
[23:45] <Blaqlight> newk also you might want to do sudo aptitude update
[23:45] <homerj> has anyone gotten a BT headset to work through pulseaudio?
[23:45] <newk> blaqlight : already tryed
[23:45] <fyre|work> newk: exactly which package are you installing?
[23:45] <newk> gnome-do
[23:45] <newk> it installs but its not the newest version
[23:45] <billy> ya very funnt dedi
[23:46] <fyre|work> newk: try getdeb.net for an updated package.
[23:46] <fyre|work> !info gnome-do
[23:46] <newk> fyre|work: thank u shall try
[23:46] <Blaqlight> fyre|work: he said gnome... wasn't anymore specific than that.
[23:46] <mlLK> is there an irc command for retrieving the channel list prompt?
[23:46] <mlLK> in xchat
[23:47] <fyre|work> Blaqlight: which is why I asked him :)
[23:47] <Blaqlight> mlLK: /list
[23:47] <fyre|work> !info gnome-do ibex
[23:47] <newk> fyre|work: thanks got a new deb file ... shud work now hopefully
[23:47] <Starnestommy> !info gnome-do intrepid
[23:47] <mlLK> Blaqlight, is there a command to search the list?
[23:48] <fyre|work> mlLK: /list lin*
[23:48] <snarkster> afternoon
[23:48] <Blaqlight> mlLK: right click on the windows with this text in it, there is a channel list thingy in there.
[23:48] <fyre|work> mlLK: it takes wildcard searches
[23:48] <GT1> I've been having a whole host of problems with PulseAudio since I started using it. Does anyone know where I can get help with that?
[23:48] <mlLK> fyre|work, so /list [search]
[23:49] <fyre|work> mlLK: pretty much
[23:49] <Blaqlight> mlLK: unfortuantely Im not using xchat, so I can't be exact.
[23:49] <Overand> Is there a good way to search for duplicate filenames on my system, preferably also searching for duplicate file sizes?
[23:49] <anirudh0> hi..is there a way to convert pdf to .tex?
[23:49] <mlLK> Blaqlight, i know; laziness is me not using my mouse
[23:49] <newk1991> fyre|work : same thing again... this is very wierd
[23:49] <anirudh0> i need to get some math formulae from an e-book..dont want to type them :)
[23:49] <Blaqlight> lol.
[23:50] <Drk_Guy> Rats, i'm having a hard time with X
[23:50] <Overand> FsLint looks good - but I think I want a commandline tool.  (The machine is a headless fileserver)
[23:50] <Drk_Guy> Clean Instalation
[23:50] <newk1991> any one use gnome do 0.5 version in ubuntu gnome?
[23:50] <billy> if i have ubuntu 5.1 what version on wine do i want
[23:50] <gordonjcp> billy: ubuntu 5.1?
[23:50] <billy> yup
[23:50] <gordonjcp> billy: you want a newer version of Ubuntu first ;-)
[23:50] <Copperpot> why are you using ubuntu 5.1
[23:50] <Drk_Guy> billy: you mean, 5.10, right?
[23:50] <Copperpot> ?
[23:51] <Copperpot> Upgrade to 8.04
[23:51] <Blaqlight> billy: the newest one should be fine, it will want to update ALOT of packages though.
[23:51] <Drk_Guy> Hi Blaqlight
[23:51] <billy> i cant get a newer version on the dell server from 1999 that im on
[23:51] <Blaqlight> Copperpot: he can't
[23:51] <Drk_Guy> I've made a clean install
[23:51] <Copperpot> ah, sorry
[23:51] <fyre|work> billy: sure you can.
[23:51] <IrCYop> Hey I do not get any sound form my usb headset on my xubuntu 8.04 but it works on windows, even though in settings I tell it to use logitech USB headset, and on alsamixer in a terminal showing my logitech usb headset, the volume up, but no sound, and in menu>settings>settings manager>sound   the speaker check box still refuses to stay checked for logitech USB sound
[23:51] <newk1991> hahha only needed to do some system updates
[23:51] <billy> i tryed 5 times
[23:51] <XStylus> I'm having some Active Directory networking issues with ubuntu that I'm trying to figure out, if there's anyone out there who'd be willing to assist.
[23:52] <mohshami> hey guys, I have pidgin 2.4.3 and ubuntu hardy 8.04 AMD64, suddenly sound just stops working and I have to restart X, the other day I found out if I close pidgin I can get sounds from other programs but I can't get anything from pidgin until I restart X, any ideas?
[23:52] <fyre|work> Overand: fdupes
[23:52] <XStylus> I'm trying to set up Ubuntu as a file server subordinate on a Windows 2000 Active Directory network. I want users to be able to log into the Ubuntu file server using their Active Directory login and credentials. What do I need to do this?
[23:52] <fyre|work> XStylus: patience, plenty of headache medicine, a very strong keyboard -- and Samba.
[23:53] <XStylus> fyre|work: So I'm discovering. Is there a fairly decent walk-thru for this?
[23:53] <GT1> Wow, the Pidgin sound glitch, a headset not working... It looks like it may not have been a good idea to put PulseAudio into Hardy after all.
[23:53] <fyre|work> XStylus: there is, but its not debian (or Ubuntu) specific, still interested?
[23:53] <XStylus> fyre|work: It'll probably at least give me a few pointers.
[23:53] <MajorPayne> Hi.  I know a *bit* about NFS, like how to mount it and such but not what I am trying to do.  I have a laptop that I move from network to network.  Is there any way that I can gear it up that Ubuntu will mount the NFS when avaiable but not try to when it isn't, automadically?
[23:53] <mohshami> GT1: so you're saying I should disable pulse?
[23:53] <GT1> And there isn't even a PulseAudio channel on here...
[23:54] <maxo> hi
[23:54] <mohshami> hi  maxo
[23:54] <Blaqlight> !hi | maxo
[23:54] <GT1> Wel, you might try that. Which one were you?
[23:54] <Ruben>  I am running crossover trial version so I can use Dreamweaver MX but it is very slow and seems to get worse when I preview in browser.  The drive starts spinning and doesn't stop.  Eventually I have to reboot. I have a HP 64bit pavillion dv9000
[23:54] <Ruben>  can anyone help?  Thanks
[23:54] <fingARC> magyar?
[23:54] <fingARC> magyar?
[23:54] <maxo> I'm looking for a good USB sound card with support for MIDI in/out that will work well with Ubuntu. Does anyone have any recommendations?
[23:54] <billy> you know what i have a 8. what ever cd/dvd and it has wubi on it and i have a winblows xp dvd so i can install xp than instal ubuntu then format or xp right?
[23:54] <fyre|work> XStylus: fwiw, this is one of the best linux wikis out there, for one of the best linux distros out there : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Implement_Samba_as_your_PDC
[23:54] <GT1> mohshami - Wel, you might try that. Which one were you?
[23:55] <kitche> Ruben: sounds like a crossover question really might have to head over to their channel
[23:55] <Blaqlight> billy: in a very round about way... yes
[23:55] <billy> kool
[23:55] <Ruben> nobody is there
[23:55] <billy> im gonna mess around for a bit thow
[23:55] <mohshami> GT1: .9.10, at work I have 32bit hardy with pidgin 2.4.1 and it's working flawlessly, I wonder why
[23:56] <dansushi18> what is the command for renaming files again?
[23:56] <XStylus> fyre|work: Hmm. This walkthru gives instructions on how to set up ubuntu as a PDC. My Win2k server is the PDC, I just want the ubuntu server to get user authentication credentials from it when someone connects to it. Will this still assist?
[23:56] <deepak> what are some of the best softwares to install in ubuntu 8.04 desktop edition
[23:56] <fyre|work> dansushi18: mv
[23:56] <deepak> i am a newbie
[23:56] <omari> hello people
[23:56] <dansushi18> thanks
[23:56] <fyre|work> XStylus: yes, if only for the steps you need to set it up.
[23:56] <mohshami> deepak: what software do you need?
[23:56] <Ruben> how about this then - do I need crossover to run dreamweaver in ubuntu?
[23:56] <omari> Hey I just found a new feature with IRC. If you type your pass word it will show as all stars
[23:56] <omari> see
[23:57] <omari> ***********8
[23:57] <GT1> mohshami - I just mean Pidgin sound glitch or headset not working. :P You might try disabling Pulse just from the Sounds dialog... I don;'t know enough about it to say much else.
[23:57] <FloodBot1> omari: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:57] <fyre|work> XStylus: there is an entry for having it as the BDC, but its not in my bookmarks.
[23:57] <guga> hunter2
[23:57] <moshe> I need some assist with grub. anyone up?
[23:57] <omari> lol
[23:57] <omari> hunter2
[23:57] <Blaqlight> Ruben: you might want to try it in wine first.
[23:57] <GT1> mohshami - If I did, I wouldn't be here.
[23:57] <Ruben> did that - doesn't load
[23:57] <XStylus> fyre|work: Hmm. Also, i notice there's an interesting program called Likewise-open. It made logging into an Active Directory network as a client pretty simple, but...
[23:57] <Azzmodan> It looks like bash in here
[23:57] <Blaqlight> Ruben: then yes your going to need crossover.
[23:57] <XStylus> Any way to derrive and usefulness from that?
[23:57] <mohshami> GT1: :), well, the thing is ALL sound blocks till I kill pidgin, but pidgin won't get sound back till I restart X
[23:57] <XStylus> and -> any
[23:58] <fyre|work> XStylus: never heard of it tbh, I used that wiki entry when I had the AD as PDC and just adjusted it as I went along, and I was not one to complain when we completely got rid of AD.
[23:58] <ardchoille> Is there a wide-spread numlock bug or something? I installed numlockx and it doesn't work at all.
[23:58] <moshe> I could use some assist with grub
[23:58] <Blaqlight> !repeat | moshe
[23:59] <toastaoven> #join
[23:59] <GT1> mohshami - I really don't know what to tell you, but it might work to go into Preferences > Sound and switch everything away from Pulse.
[23:59] <fyre|work> XStylus: are you trying to setup just a SSO for your linux machines that authenticates against AD? Or is this the first step to something more ... grand.
[23:59] <mohshami> GT1: I really appreciate your help, the thing is, there is no pulse option in pidgin


[15:32] <charlie-tca> Any one volunteer to lead an accessibility session for Open Week yet?
[15:33] <maco> which one is open week again?
[15:34] <apinheiro> charlie-tca, where is UDS this year?
[15:34] <apinheiro> Florida?
[15:34] <maco> yes
[15:34] <maco> orlando, same hotel as last year
[15:34] <charlie-tca> Orlando
[15:34] <charlie-tca> OpenWeek is next week, for users.
[15:35] <charlie-tca> maco: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[15:36] <maco> im not sure what one would say in an open week session
[15:36] <maco> a newbie-developer one sure... "fill in the stuff in glade, gosh darnit"
[15:38] <Pendulum> it seems those people UDSing will now have to put up with me as well ;-)
[15:40] <charlie-tca> You coming to Orlando?
[15:40] <Pendulum> yes
[15:42] <charlie-tca> Great!
[15:42] <charlie-tca> :)
[15:42] <charlie-tca> I think they are really tired of hearing me complain about the a11y stuff now
[15:42] <Pendulum> haha
[15:43] <charlie-tca> You haven't complained in a bit, so there's hope again!
[15:43] <Pendulum> btw, I'm having an a11y call with jono next week
[15:43] <Pendulum> (Can you tell I'm feeling better now? ;-) )
[15:45] <charlie-tca> good. I am really frustrated that we can not have a11y working completely in Oneiric, but there is ppa that has it all working
[16:00] <charlie-tca> maco: I think for users it should be more about what is available, what works, what we want to have working
[16:00] <charlie-tca> and a bit of what we want to see for the next release is always good :)
[16:06] <charlie-tca> I am going to grab the Friday at 15:00 UTC slot for us, and I will lead the session. Anyone want to help/co-lead/assist?
[16:39] <AlanBell> yeah
[16:46] <charlie-tca> Great!
[23:33] <AlanBell> just done a screencast of the installer, encoding now


[09:04] <meena> i dunno, holmanb . The person who authored that patch doesn't like CLAs, and you're already mention their bug / patch in the PR / commit message
[16:28] <paride> blackboxsw, falcojr, I don't have permissions to delete old pycloudlib releases or to add project maintainers on pypi
[16:28] <paride> AIUI the maintainer role only gives me rights to upload new versions
[16:28] <falcojr> paride: thanks for checking
[16:29] <paride> I also can't update the project description (homepage, repo, and thelike)
[16:29] <paride> I can drop an email to Josh about it
[17:09] <minimal> paride: thanks for merging my cloud-utils PR :-)
[18:14] <holmanb> @paride: PR Up for the failing copr job, I can drop the CentOS Stream 9 job if you'd rather we wait on that https://github.com/canonical/server-jenkins-jobs
[22:49] <blackboxsw> holmanb: or falcojr for Monday. another minor PR put up for fixing incorrect self.instance.pull_file(..).ok() I introduced in commit 6ed3c5dfcd9392784d2199224ac7d28d1abfdf7b   https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/1246


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[00:01] <blr> wgrant: thanks, some good things to consider there.
[00:02] <wgrant> blr: Have you looked at mojo again?
[00:03] <blr> yep looking at mojo/deployment today.
[00:03] <blr> will come back to the commit-api branch later, would like to continue with this today I think.
[00:04] <wgrant> blr: Would be good to get commit-api landed today, since Colin's up to there now.
[00:06] <blr> wgrant: sure, that's fine, I'll come back to deployment on monday.
[00:06] <wgrant> blr: We all know how good deployment/packaging/etc. are at eating an inordinate amount of time :/
[00:07] <blr> oh yes -_-
[00:07] <blr> particularly when the tool is... temperamental.
[00:08] <wgrant> Quite.
[00:12] <blr> wgrant: regarding the assertion in format_commit(), the only caller does currently check for GIT_OBJ_COMMIT, but I suppose we might re-use this elsewhere
[00:13] <blr> perhaps I should move the exception in get_commit to format_commit?
[00:14] <blr> would save repetition in get_log
[00:15] <wgrant> blr: That's not unreasonable, as long as the request returns 400 or something like that.
[00:43] <blr> wgrant: if I pass an iterator to the view, rather than the commit collection, I'm not certain about having the limit logic in the view.
[00:43] <blr> feels like it should be in get_log
[00:44] <blr> would prefer the view not to touch pygit2 if possible.
[00:44] <blr> I realise it is already leaking with the exceptions, but in general would prefer to minimise it.
[00:45] <wgrant> blr: I think this makes things uglier, but I'm happy to leave it as and see how things grow naturally.
[01:32] <blr> wgrant: some weird behaviour with pygit2 unicode Signatures
[01:34] <blr> wgrant: sig = pygit2.Signature(u'Владимир Владимирович Набоков'.encode('utf-8'), u'Набоко@zembl
[01:34] <blr> a.ru'.encode('utf-8'))
[01:34] <blr> ugh
[01:34] <blr> please reassemble, and call sig.name
[01:34] <wgrant> Is pygit2.Signature meant to be given bytestrings?
[01:35] <wgrant> It works if you give it encoding='utf-8'
[01:35] <blr> that's not in the docs O.o
[01:35] <wgrant> I'd check the code, but I suspect you're meant to give it one of a unicode, an ASCII str, or a str plus an encoding.
[01:35] <wgrant> I didn't look at the docs, I just tried it :P
[01:36] <blr> relying on documentation is clearly a major character flaw of mine. I'll work on it.
[01:39] <blr> wgrant: huh, I can't reproduce that, passing encoding='utf-8' to the constructor throw a UnicodeEncodeError
[01:40] <wgrant> blr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10588625/
[01:40] <blr> sig = pygit2.Signature(u'Владимир Владимирович Набоков'.encode('utf-8'), u'Набоко@zembl
[01:40]  * blr sighs
[01:43] <blr> wgrant: that does work, sorry.
[01:43] <blr> why would ascii be the default?
[01:52] <wgrant> blr: ASCII is the only correct default for interpreting a bytestring without any other information.
[01:55] <wgrant> (but, for our purposes, we can sensibly say that if there's no declared encoding we default to UTF-8 with errors='replace')
[01:56] <wgrant> Because this API is allowed to be lossy, and anyone who doesn't use UTF-8 is a fool.
[02:05] <blr> wgrant: do commit objects with non utf-8 data need to be filtered, akin to refs?
[02:06] <wgrant> blr: No, in that case we can just do errors='replace'.
[02:06] <wgrant> We can't do that with refs, since they're identifiers and would be ambiguous.
[02:06] <wgrant> For metadata it's fine to be lossy.
[02:06] <blr> ok, that makes sense.
[02:29] <lifeless> you could do unicode_escape
[02:29] <lifeless> for errors
[02:29] <lifeless> IIRC
[02:36] <blr> wgrant: afaict, pygit2 is already lossy, creating a commit with a latin1 bytestring returns a utf-8 'replaced' string
[02:38] <blr> or more specifically, I think create_blob() is doing that
[02:40] <wgrant> lifeless: unicode_escape is the opposite direction.
[02:41] <wgrant> blr: create blob should take a bytestring, though, since its content isn't text
[02:42] <blr> hmm nope
[02:42] <blr> yep, just looking at the code now trying to work out where this is happening
[02:43] <wgrant> the API is a bit odd, vut it seems to be sensible in terms of str vs unicode
[02:49] <blr> wgrant: yes it appears to be handling non utf-8 sanely. There's a test now at any rate.
[02:52] <blr> wgrant: there now if you have a moment to re-review.
[03:06] <blr> just looking at cjwatson's nonexistent-repo branch, I guess that was a bad assumption that it would throw a GitError.
[03:08] <blr> or rather, the bad thing is making an untested assumption. :/
[03:14] <wgrant> Right.
[03:14] <wgrant> KeyError is a pretty odd error, though!
[03:22] <blr> thanks wgrant
[03:25] <blr> hope that will free up cjwatson for his next bit of work. Will return to stackystack.
[03:26]  * wgrant is making Answers a bit easier to manage from a spam perspective.
[03:27] <wgrant> But mojo might be a nice distraction if you continue to run into walls.
[03:27] <blr> would like to get to some of those other LP tasks next week as well, perhaps the keybindings for chunk navigation
[03:28] <wgrant> Indeed.
[03:28] <wgrant> That should be even nicer than Ctrl+Enter.
[03:30] <blr> wgrant: missed your inline comment, damnit. limit is a string there, the view should cast it, rather than doing it there though.
[03:30] <wgrant> Yup, another usability issue with inline comments :)
[03:31] <StevenK> Needs more VWS? Or <blink> tags?
[03:31] <blr> StevenK: bring back <marquee> imo
[03:32] <StevenK> blr: Doable with JS, and oh look, inline comments already uses lots of it
[04:16] <blr> ok, going to head off. have a good weekend wgrant
[04:17] <wgrant> blr: Night. Thanks for sorting out commit-api.
[04:17] <blr> and thanks for your help with it! ttyl
[17:46] <cjwatson> blr: I marked the commit/log API tasks done in asana - hopefully that's right


[19:11] <Skini151> Hi,today i tested "saucy daily image" and encountered a problem , after suspend Ubuntu i can't return to DE, see only black screen/// what package is responsible for this "gnome-power-manager" , "pm-utils" , or the kernel himself.
[19:13] <Skini151> tested on VM
[19:13] <Skini151> both KVM and VirtualBox
[19:14] <hggdh> Skini151: since we do not know what caused the error, we can go conservative, and assume -- for now -- this is a kernel issue
[19:18] <Skini151> can i put the "gnome-power-manager" , "pm-utils" , the kernel logs to this bug on LP, if i am not sure about it
[19:18] <Skini151> ?
[19:20] <hggdh> Skini151: yes, you can.
[19:21] <Skini151> you encountered this kind of bug before?
[19:27] <Skini151> i found a bug that can be similar to mine can you look at it
[19:28] <Skini151> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/linux/+bug/1054732
[19:28] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1054732 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) "[LENOVO 4298R86] suspend/resume failure" [High,Confirmed]
[19:31] <Skini151> or this one : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/linux/+bug/1193661
[19:31] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1193661 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) "[Apple Inc. MacBookPro10,1] suspend/resume failure [non-free: wl]" [Medium,Confirmed]
[19:31] <hggdh> Skini151: do you see a kernel oops?
[19:32] <Skini151> nope just black screen and blinking cursor
[19:33] <hggdh> can you access the system via SSH?
[19:34] <hggdh> because I do not see, a priori, any of the above bugs as being relevant
[19:35] <Skini151> no
[19:35] <Skini151> i can't type anything
[19:35] <hggdh> can you ping the VM from your system?
[19:36] <hggdh> the reason is if we do not have data on this, it will be very difficult to solve it
[19:37] <Skini151> at begin cursor blinks but after he just freeze
[19:38] <hggdh> yes, I understand. But we need to be able to gather data.
[19:38] <hggdh> huh
[19:38] <Skini151> it seems that i can access the DE but i see black screen
[19:38] <hggdh> perhaps you will get more help from #ubuntu-quality, the folks there are working continuously on testing Saucy
[19:39] <hggdh> ah, you are already there
[19:39] <Skini151> i will try tomorrow to install on real machine , will that change grub version?
[19:40] <hggdh> no, it will not. But please consider installing *also* SSH. if this is a bug on the DE, you would be able to SSH in, and gather data
[19:40] <Skini151> and after ok
[19:40] <Skini151> oooops
[19:40] <Skini151> ok
[19:40] <Skini151> just ok
[19:41] <hggdh> :-)
[19:41] <hggdh> OK
[19:41] <Skini151> thanks
[19:41] <hggdh> yw
[19:48] <theghost> Hi, I wanted to fix my first ubuntu bug with the help of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix. But when I tried to build a dep from my fixed package (according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix#Testing_the_fix)) a got the following error: "bzr: ERROR: exceptions.UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe4' in position 40: ordinal not in range(128)". Anyone knows what that means ?
[19:50] <hggdh> theghost: that means bzr died with an exception (UnicodeEncodeError). Not good, really.
[19:51] <hggdh> theghost: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[19:52] <theghost> hggdh: I am running Raring / 13.04
[19:52] <hggdh> theghost: and is it up-to-date? Spefically, is bzr up-to-date?
[19:53] <theghost> hggdh: I install bzr with "sudo apt-get install bzr"
[19:54] <theghost> The error looks somehow similar to this: "https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/871386"
[19:54] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 871386 in Bazaar "recipe fails to build" [Undecided,Fix released]
[19:55] <hggdh> this is a very old bug, I would expect the current bzr to have the fix
[19:55] <hggdh> theghost: but is the backtrace the same?
[19:57] <hggdh> theghost: ah, no, there is really no bug, sort of. It has something to do with the simlink and/or locale
[19:58] <hggdh> theghost: this is actually a good question -- do you have any simlinks/directories in the path of the bzr operation with, say, umlauts?
[19:58] <theghost> hggdh: yes, looks like an encoding issue. i use utf8
[19:59] <theghost> hggdh: the filepath to the directory contains umlauts. will change and retry
[20:00] <hggdh> (frankly, I would still consider it a bug, bzr should not die because we have localised characters in a path)
[20:05] <theghost> hggdh: ok, now the bzr error is gone. definetely was the umlauts in filepath. thanks. i think too that a version system should not break because of this. I will file a bug for "bzr"
[20:06] <hggdh> theghost: please do. Please also add a link to the bug you found, so that we do not lose the  history
[20:21] <theghost> ok, in case someone is interested I filed this bug for the encoding error:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bzr/+bug/1195011
[20:21] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1195011 in bzr (Ubuntu) "bzr-buildpackage fails if directory contains umlauts" [Undecided,New]
[20:22] <theghost> hggh: thanks for your help, hggdh. cya