[11:09] <x20twelve> ! pastebin
[11:09] <metatagg_> klodya: : essayer /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:09] <x20twelve> hey VCoolio
[11:09] <klodya> merci
[11:10] <metatagg_> klodya: de rien
[11:10] <x20twelve> ah parlez vous en francais mmm
[11:10] <VCoolio> x20twelve: hi, what's up?
[11:10] <klodya> moi oui
[11:10] <VCoolio> !fr
[11:10] <x20twelve> not much
[11:11] <x20twelve> just recently upgraded 9.04 to 9.10
[11:11] <metatagg_> x20twelve : enough to point ppl to #ubuntu-fr :)
[11:11] <x20twelve> wonderin if i should upgrade to 10.04.1
[11:11] <VCoolio> x20twelve: that's nice to see how a update works, but yeah, move on or do a fresh install, especially if you have /home on a separate partition
[11:11] <x20twelve> i speak very lil french
[11:11] <Peace-> hi admin here?
[11:12] <Peace-> #ubuntu-ops
[11:12] <x20twelve> hmm...so if i do the upgrade from the update manager, i wonder if it would work, cuz when i burnt it on to cd, my system wouldnt take it
[11:13] <x20twelve> guess i'll have to stick with 9.10 till i upgrade my computer lol
[11:13] <Gnea> Peace-: there are some around, is someone spamming you?
[11:13] <mimetico> there he is
[11:13] <mimetico> http://paste.ubuntu.com/559840/
[11:13] <VCoolio> x20twelve: you should have waited maybe, with LTS versions you can skip the rest, so you could have upgraded directly from 9.04 to 11.04
[11:13] <x20twelve> quick question tho, in 10.10 how is the webcam functionality with IM clients?
[11:14] <Peace-> Gnea: no i am working on #kubuntu channel and there is a guy  that says he can't go into this channel...
[11:14] <Peace-> Gnea: he says he never come in
[11:14] <Peace-> came
[11:14] <Gnea> Peace-: is he identified?
[11:14] <x20twelve> i hate  having to boot back to xp to run msn so i can cam.
[11:14] <Peace-> Gnea: dunno
[11:14] <oCean> VCoolio: 11.04 is standard release, not lts
[11:14] <AbhiJit> Peace-, /j #ubuntu-ops
[11:15] <VCoolio> oh right, even numbers .04 are LTS, sorry
[11:15] <Peace-> AbhiJit: i am in that channel
[11:15] <daylight> qhey guys
[11:15] <x20twelve> no harm done
[11:15] <AbhiJit> hmmm
[11:15] <daylight> hey guys
[11:15] <x20twelve> qhey daylight
[11:15] <x20twelve> hey daylight
[11:16] <x20twelve> VCoolio what vers are yu running?
[11:17] <VCoolio> 10.10 and 11.04 snapshot in virtualbox, host os is archlinux, but I hang out here to see if I can help a bit
[11:18] <x20twelve> sweet. have yu tried any camming in any IM client?
[11:18] <x20twelve> all i need to know is if it works or not
[11:19] <x20twelve> so i'll have something to look forward to
[11:19] <VCoolio> I don't have a webcam
[11:19] <x20twelve> oh ok
[11:19] <x20twelve> and i cant wait for the day when i can play CrossFire on Ubuntu
[11:19] <x20twelve> its a xp game, but wont work on crossover or wine
[11:20] <madsailor> x20twelve, I'm running 10.10 and webcam works fine
[11:20] <x20twelve> its does? awesome. cuz it dont do too well in 9.10. cheese sees it alright but not any IM clients =(
[11:21] <mimetico> !paste | mimetico
[11:21] <mimetico> thanks
[11:21] <drthoth> hello, awhile back I configured my ssh server in a way that stopped the server from creating a new ssh/bash instance for the same user, allowing them to run multiple sessions but under 1 login. i believe it used pam. can anyone help me out?
[11:22] <madsailor> x20twelve,  my Only personal exp is 10.10 with linux skype...worked a charm.  Dunno about IM but don't see why not.  Best luck!
[11:23] <aphrek> Hi All, I've got a fresh install of 10.04 but the grub menu does not appear by default - it boot into the OS directly. How do I get the menu to appear? I've checked it's installed by using grub-install -v
[11:23] <x20twelve> yea i tried linux skype, i could see my contacts cam, but was unable to send mine ... bummer
[11:23] <mimetico> i'm using empathy. How do i see private messages? (:()
[11:24] <x20twelve> nice...my empathy dont like me
[11:24] <x20twelve> i think its cuz im black
[11:24] <phrozen> HI I have a problem with a some script. I am new in js and I need to do something as like this http://pastebin.com/aPSjbUfJ
[11:25] <bonzai_pete> moning all
[11:25] <oCean> aphrek: ubuntu is only OS in the machine? Hold shift during boot, that will enter the grub menu
[11:25] <x20twelve> mornin bonzai
[11:25] <phrozen> can someoe tell me where is a problem?
[11:25] <B_Z> ye moshkel ba update daram
[11:25] <oCean> phrozen: better try in channel ##javascript
[11:26] <phrozen> oki thanks ;]
[11:26] <shouvik> hi
[11:26] <phrozen> join #javascript
[11:26] <shouvik> does anyone know rubyonrails channel?
[11:26] <aphrek> oCean - it is the only installed OS - I tried the Shift key & nothing happened
[11:26] <azi> hello. is there any way to install ubuntu on an ARM architecture?
[11:27] <30BAARN65> weird? lol
[11:27] <footprint> #ubuntu-classroom
[11:29] <oCean> aphrek: It should though. I don't know of other options
[11:30] <x20twelve> i had a cat and named it stain. guess what i say when i call the cat...
[11:31] <oCean> x20twelve: please stay on topic
[11:31] <aphrek> ill try again - thanks oCean
[11:31] <x20twelve> sorry, the bud started to hit me.
[11:31] <x20twelve> back to 9.10
[11:32] <x20twelve> i kinda had a problem with skydome, soreau was sorta helping me with it before i upgraded to 9.10
[11:32] <x20twelve> sucks that i can only use jpg, png etc...and no gif
[11:32] <x20twelve> i always see ppl online vids have animated skydomes...i want that too
[11:33] <x20twelve> i wanna push my linux box till the process burns out
[11:33] <oCean> azi`: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM and channel #ubuntu-arm
[11:33] <x20twelve> processor
[11:33] <ct529> x20twelve: meaning?
[11:33] <x20twelve> the skydome : the background yu see when yu initiate the cube
[11:34] <x20twelve> i want the image moving
[11:34] <ct529> x20twelve: oh I see
[11:34] <x20twelve> or i'll just settle with an aquarium inside a transparent cube
[11:34] <x20twelve> when i do the fire on the screen, yu should hear how fast my fan runs
[11:35] <ct529> x20twelve: I imagine. I tend not to use too many effects for that very reason.
[11:36] <x20twelve> tru dat
[11:36] <GHH> VCoolio, fail
[11:36] <x20twelve> ever try out xubuntu?
[11:36] <drthoth> console is my favorite desktop most of the time
[11:36] <drthoth> and im not even elite
[11:37] <x20twelve> i want to be an elite
[11:37] <drthoth> go all hardcore, and run gnustep or just x
[11:37] <drthoth> hah
[11:37] <drthoth> kinda funny
[11:37] <drthoth> windows vista/7 have a desktop clock
[11:37] <drthoth> and that started back on x, lol
[11:38] <drthoth> <3u xclock
[11:39] <x20twelve> what version of ubuntu is chameleon?
[11:39] <Gnea> !karma
[11:39] <Tm_T> x20twelve: there's no such version
[11:40] <drthoth> karma karma karma chameleeeooooooooon
[11:40] <dnivra> x20twelve, chameleon is a boot loader.
[11:40] <drthoth> you come and goooo, you come and gooooo oooo oooo
[11:40] <Gnea> !karmic
[11:40] <x20twelve> ok cool thanx
[11:40] <x20twelve> just googling animated wallpapers etc
[11:40] <drthoth> hello, awhile back I configured my ssh server in a way that stopped the server from creating a new ssh/bash instance for the same user, allowing them to run multiple sessions but under 1 login. i believe it used pam. can anyone help me out?
[11:41] <Gnea> drthoth: I usually do that with screen
[11:41] <shcherbak> x20twelve: kameleon is suse (afaik)
[11:41] <drthoth> yeah but then you gotta move between screens
[11:41] <drthoth> i like having 6 putty's open xD
[11:41] <Gnea> no
[11:41] <x20twelve> is there a way to set up the dock at the bottom of the screen in 9.10?
[11:41] <EvilMachine> hello. :) am i right that there are problems with the sky2 ethernet driver?
[11:42] <bonzai_pete> i'm lost lol
[11:42] <Gnea> drthoth: you have one screen session with multiple shells open within it
[11:42] <drthoth> thats what i want to avoid
[11:42] <drthoth> is multiple shells/ssh
[11:42] <drthoth> like so
[11:42] <drthoth>  1062 mryanbro  20   0 10508 1712  968 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.67 sshd
[11:42] <drthoth>  1063 mryanbro  20   0  8684 5404 1564 S  0.0  0.3   0:00.74 bash
[11:42] <drthoth>  1358 mryanbro  20   0 10508 1720  976 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.64 sshd
[11:42] <drthoth>  1359 mryanbro  20   0  8628 5284 1504 S  0.0  0.3   0:00.49 bash
[11:42] <FloodBot2> drthoth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:42] <Gnea> that's silly, but okay
[11:42] <drthoth> ouch, for 4 lines
[11:42] <Gnea> drthoth: you'd just have to have one terminal per
[11:42] <Incarnate> Hey ppls
[11:42] <drthoth> yea thats what i want to do, i remember mucking about with pam/login
[11:43] <drthoth> and no matter how many puttys i connected, only 1 ssh/bash showed/ran
[11:43] <Gnea> drthoth: I don't see how that would be of any benefit
[11:43] <Incarnate> Possible to change partition size on ubuntu 10.10 once installed?
[11:43] <drthoth> less processes?
[11:43] <Gnea> drthoth: ...which is why I run screen
[11:43] <drthoth> the processes are still running arent they?
[11:44] <drthoth> just masked under 1 process of screen
[11:44] <Gnea> how would it make any less?
[11:44] <bonzai_pete> gonna look for newbie channel
[11:44] <drthoth> because it forces the logins to use the same process
[11:44] <drthoth> instead of creating a new process per session
[11:44] <Gnea> yes, but you use more processes on the computer you're typing on
[11:44] <Gnea> overall, it's a waste
[11:44] <shcherbak> bonzai_pete: What is wrong?
[11:44] <drthoth> which is why i want to avoid running needless processes
[11:44] <drthoth> the less, the better
[11:44] <Gnea> which is why I use screen :)
[11:45] <drthoth> screen doesnt create less processes
[11:45] <bonzai_pete> xchat noob
[11:45] <Gnea> drthoth: do you have an ubuntu-related question or not?
[11:45] <drthoth> dont give me attitude because i dont like your reply
[11:45] <drthoth> the question is ubuntu related
[11:45]  * Gnea arches a brow
[11:45] <shcherbak> bonzai_pete: We call it padawan, xchat have very good documentaion online.
[11:46] <Incarnate> Is it possible to change partition size on ubuntu 10.10 once installed?
[11:46] <bonzai_pete> shall have to learn  a little more about xchat
[11:46] <shcherbak> Incarnate: not recommanded, you would need to yse LiveCD, and back-up your data.
[11:47] <bonzai_pete> until then bye all
[11:48] <Gnea> drthoth: if you're so sure about your method, then stop asking and test it out yourself using top on the remote computer - make 10 connections and see what uses more memory: 10 different instances or using screen
[11:48] <shcherbak> drthoth: you can use tmux, and avoid disconnectio, play around sshd_config.
[11:48] <shouvik> anyone knows any ruby chat room?
[11:49] <shouvik> ror
[11:49] <Gnea> scheibo: he thinks that tmux and screen somehow uses more resources than connecting using one shell at a time
[11:49] <Incarnate> Hmm.. so best to do would be to remove entire installation or full format after back-up of data.
[11:49] <ikonia> shouvik: this isn't a yellow pages for channels
[11:49] <drthoth> thats not what i think at all
[11:49] <dnivra> shouvik, ask in #freenode
[11:49] <shouvik> thanks for pointing me that ikonia
[11:49] <Gnea> shouvik: #ruby-on-rails perhaps?
[11:49] <drthoth> but I appreciate you changing the context of my question because I disagree with yoru approach
[11:49] <madsailor> Incarnate,  as shcherbak says not recommended, but  using gparted can be done.  Look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[11:49] <shouvik> thank u Gnea, i appreciate your help
[11:50] <Gnea> drthoth: feel free to drop your own attitude at anytime.
[11:50] <dnivra> shouvik, #ruby too i think. do ask in #freenode in future okay?
[11:50] <shouvik> okay sure
[11:50] <drthoth> you inferred i had an unrelated question and as such should be quiet until I do
[11:50] <shcherbak> Incarnate: Or use lvm, or have separate "/data" partition for reinstalations, distros upgrades, etc.
[11:50] <Gnea> drthoth: and you are now offtopic, please feel free to discuss your results or don't bother, thanks.
[11:50] <oCean> shouvik: dnivra there is no need to ask in #freenode. Type /list in your irc client, and find all freenode hosted channel. Then take your pick :)
[11:50] <greenIT> hi, i have a problem... i installed the displaymanager slim, cause i wanted to see the difference to gdm2, but when i say that the system shall use slim, it won't boot anymore...
[11:51] <Incarnate> lvm?
[11:51] <drthoth> Gnea, you brought it off topic by continuing to address the unrelated issue where I'm trying to correct your assumption
[11:51] <drthoth> I am not looking to run multiple processes
[11:51] <greenIT> Incarnate, did u write it to me?
[11:51] <shcherbak> !lvm
[11:51] <dnivra> oCean, all I meant was #freenode would be yellow pages. :) sure that does work too.
[11:51] <drthoth> I am looking to find how to reduce the processes, which I believe is through PAM. So I am asking for support regarding that
[11:51] <greenIT> ah, ok, not for me^^
[11:51] <samski> anyone able to give some support with tesdisk and recovering an ubuntu partition?
[11:52] <drthoth> if you are unable to help me in that regard, please don't insist on offering alternative methods that are contrary to my needs
[11:52] <ikonia> drthoth: what's the question ?
[11:52] <Incarnate> ok.. thx.. =)
[11:52] <Incarnate> See ya..
[11:53] <Gnea> drthoth: I'll help you as I see fit, if my help isn't appreciated, I'm sure someone else will be happy to try to help.
[11:53] <greenIT> i need help with the displaymanager slim, it won't be executed at startup
[11:53] <samski> anyone able to give some support with tesdisk and recovering a lost ubuntu partition
[11:53] <ikonia> samski: how did it get lost
[11:53] <samski> a windows recover partition messed with things
[11:53] <ikonia> samski: can you please define "messed with things"
[11:53] <samski> so i have no grub either
[11:54] <samski> ill send and image
[11:54] <greenIT> !sgd
[11:54] <samski> hang on
[11:54] <EvilMachine> Hmm... Am I right that there are problems with the sky2 ethernet driver?
[11:54] <ikonia> samski: no, just explain what's happened
[11:54] <samski> ok
[11:54] <ikonia> samski: don't want an image, just explain the current situation and what happened to get it there
[11:54] <greenIT> !slim
[11:54] <ikonia> greenIT: what are you looking for ?
[11:54] <samski> ok i dual boot windows 7 and linux
[11:54] <EvilMachine> Installed Ubuntu 10.10, and the network won't work.
[11:54] <samski> i have some old recovery partitions from when i had vista
[11:54] <samski> i accidentally booted into one of those
[11:54] <greenIT> ikonia: i am looking for a way to get slim running
[11:55] <samski> i hit exit and it rebooted. only to find a grub rescue prompt
[11:55] <shcherbak> !grub | samski
[11:55] <ikonia> greenIT: slim running ?
[11:55] <samski> im now booted in a liveusb and have ran testdisk
[11:55] <greenIT> ikonia: and i looked if ubottu knows super grub disk^^
[11:55] <ikonia> samski: is the ubuntu partition still there ?
[11:55] <drthoth> scedit prob changed the mbr
[11:55] <samski> yes
[11:55] <samski> well
[11:55] <ikonia> samski: great, I'll give you a url
[11:55] <mespejel> hi
[11:55] <greenIT> ikonia: do you know the displaymanager slim?
[11:55] <ikonia> !grub2 > samski
[11:55] <ikonia> greenIT: sorry, I don't
[11:55] <samski> the partition shows as free
[11:55] <ikonia> samski: check the URL ubottu just sent you, it will walk you through re-applying grub
[11:56] <samski> but i its still there if i look in testdisk
[11:56] <mespejel> what is the difference between a long term support and the latest version?
[11:56] <mespejel> which one better?
[11:56] <mespejel> huh?
[11:56] <greenIT> ikonia: ok, then i have to look if there is a #slim channel^^
[11:56] <mespejel> i dont know if install 10.04 or 10.10
[11:56] <dnivra> !lts | meshuggah
[11:56] <ikonia> mespejel: one is supported for a longer time, one is more bleading edge
[11:56] <shcherbak> !lts
[11:56] <samski> ikona, sorry i didnt mean its still there. the partition shows as free space, but its still there if i look at testdisk
[11:56] <mespejel> what you mean by supported? 10.10 is not supported????
[11:56] <mespejel> hmmm
[11:56] <ikonia> samski: what do you mean "it's still there"
[11:57] <Gnea> mespejel: 10.10 is supported NOW, but when 11.04 comes out, it will not be.
[11:57] <shcherbak> mespejel: ukhm
[11:57] <samski> thats why i want to send you an image
[11:57] <samski> may i send you an image
[11:57] <mespejel> oOooh
[11:57] <mespejel> okkk
[11:57] <evilvish> Gnea: no..
[11:57] <mespejel> i see
[11:57] <ikonia> samski: try to mount the partition from the livecd/liveusb
[11:57] <Gnea> !screenshot | samski
[11:57] <samski> it showing as freespace
[11:57] <mespejel> 11.04 is not Long term??
[11:57] <Gnea> evilvish: pardon?
[11:57] <mespejel> is short term?
[11:57] <ikonia> samski: mount the partiton
[11:57] <Gnea> !LTS | mespejel
[11:57] <evilvish> Gnea: mespejel: LTS is longer support than other releases
[11:57] <samski> ikona i cant
[11:57] <ikonia> samski: why ? what happens
[11:57] <evilvish> Gnea: iirc, it is 1.5 yrs
[11:58] <evilvish> lts is 3
[11:58] <samski> http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2397/screenshothm.png
[11:58] <samski> http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2397/screenshothm.png
[11:58] <shouvik> hi
[11:58] <mespejel> ok ok so 11.04 is going to be long term support ?
[11:58] <samski> this image shows clearly where ubuntu should be
[11:58] <gobbe> mespejel: no it will not be
[11:58] <dnivra> mespejel, no. 10.04 was last long term. next would be 12.04 i guess.
[11:58] <shouvik> does anyone has ubuntu10.10?
[11:58] <mespejel> oh i see
[11:58] <ikonia> samski: I told you 3 times not to send the image, answer the question
[11:58] <jacekowski> hello
[11:58] <ikonia> samski: can you mount it
[11:58] <mespejel> aja
[11:58] <bullgard> Audacious 2.4.0 shows a red square in its 4th line. What does this symbol mean?
[11:58] <shcherbak> shouvik: most
[11:58] <mespejel> ahaha
[11:58] <mespejel> ok
[11:58] <mespejel> so basically
[11:58] <samski> ikona its showing as freew space so how can i mount it?
[11:58] <jacekowski> have anybody tried to install ubuntu on already encrypted disk with truecrypt ( using whole disk encryption )
[11:59] <mespejel> 10.04 is for lazy pepole who dont like to update and prefer longer support huh
[11:59] <shouvik> better than 10.04? as in stable?
[11:59] <mespejel> nah is not that hard to backup and install again
[11:59] <mespejel> i prefer the newest most modern release;)
[11:59] <mespejel> :D
[11:59] <mespejel> lol
[11:59] <Gnea> mespejel: please do not confuse stability with laziness.
[11:59] <dnivra> mespejel, no. 10.04 is for company/university environments i'd say.
[11:59] <ikonia> samski: if it is actually free space, then your partition and data is gone
[11:59] <mespejel> wooot
[11:59] <ikonia> samski: if it's not free space, mount it and confirm the data is ok
[11:59] <mespejel> so 10.10 is not stable?
[11:59] <mespejel> less stable??
[11:59] <Gnea> mespejel: if I was your boss, and you ran the most modern release on a production machine, you'd be in the unemployment line really fast.
[12:00] <mespejel> i thought support and stability different things hmmm
[12:00] <samski> i need to recover the parittion
[12:00] <samski> thats my query
[12:00] <dnivra> mespejel, the only unstable version is 11.04 :)
[12:00] <shouvik> i dont know, just curious, i need to know before i upgrade :)
[12:00] <shcherbak> mespejel: on the cutting edge!
[12:00] <ikonia> samski: it's gone
[12:00] <Gnea> mespejel: yes, 10.10 is less stable, but not entire unstable
[12:00] <gobbe> samski: recover from your backups
[12:00] <samski> :S
[12:00] <Gnea> !recover | samski
[12:00] <samski> ahh that bot is annoying lol
[12:00] <shouvik> i m glad i did not upgrade :D
[12:00] <mespejel> hey guys do you know if i can knstall ubuntu
[12:00] <mespejel> with kde
[12:00] <mespejel> to my ipad?
[12:01] <dnivra> does any one know a tool to defragment ntfs partitions using ubuntu?
[12:01] <Gnea> samski: deal with it.
[12:01] <gobbe> mespejel: no
[12:01] <ikonia> dnivra: use the windows tools for the windows file systems
[12:01] <shcherbak> Gnea: samski already asked foe assistance with testdisk
[12:01] <Gnea> mespejel: nope
[12:01] <samski> thanks for the help everyone. im going to try somewhere else
[12:01] <gobbe> mespejel: ipad doesn't run on intel processor
[12:01] <dnivra> ikonia, i do not run windows so that's why i wanted to know.
[12:01] <mespejel> oh i see i see
[12:01] <Gnea> shcherbak: indeed, and at least one of those URLs helps describe how to do it.
[12:01] <mespejel> rumors say that the new ipad 2 will run intel
[12:01] <mespejel> lets wait and see
[12:02] <ikonia> mespejel: ok, but in the mean time this is nothing to do with ubuntu, so lets not discuss it please.
[12:02] <Gnea> mespejel: ubuntuforums.org might have something on the subject
[12:03] <mespejel> hey guys do you know about a kde and gnome competition called E17
[12:03] <mespejel> anyone try yet?
[12:03] <ikonia> mespejel: it's very old
[12:03] <Gnea> mespejel: yup, works great
[12:04] <mespejel> no its new
[12:04] <mespejel> very new
[12:04] <Gnea> mespejel: no, heh, it's old, been in development for years
[12:04] <ikonia> mespejel: no, it's very old
[12:04] <YankDownUnder> Enlightenment was around more than 10 years ago.
[12:04] <gobbe> mespejel: no it is not, been in development for several years
[12:04] <ikonia> mespejel: you may want to try ##linux for general linux chat
[12:04] <Gnea> mespejel: I met the lead developer in person back in the 90's
[12:04] <mespejel> wow
[12:04] <mespejel> nice
[12:04] <mespejel> so they have stable version or not?
[12:05] <ikonia> mespejel: you may want to try ##linux for general linux chat
[12:05] <mespejel> i will try
[12:05] <Gnea> mespejel: yes, e16, it's in the repository
[12:05] <Gnea> !info e16
[12:05] <Gnea> mespejel: but you have to be careful not to let it integrate with gnome or kde
[12:06] <VCoolio> mespejel: core libs of e17 have just been released, build svn 56361 or the tarballs
[12:07] <greenIT> i have a problem with the simple login manager (slim). i used this guide (ok, not really much to do) http://computergyan.wordpress.com/2010/11/21/use-simple-login-manager-slim-instead-of-gdm/ , but slim doesn't work for me... i did nothing else than follow this guide.. can anyone help me get slim working?
[12:07] <ezra-s> hello, is there a wubi installer for 10.10. The wubi installer I get installs 10.04
[12:07] <ikonia> !info slim
[12:08] <dnivra> ezra-s, you need to get a 10.10 iso burnt onto a cd/usb.
[12:08] <ikonia> greenIT: can you define "doesn't work"
[12:08] <Gnea> greenIT: better off finding a guide on ubuntuforums.org rather than using an unofficial guide
[12:08] <dnivra> ezra-s, if you use 10.04 disc, it'll install 10.04.
[12:08] <oCean> ezra-s: http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/wubi.exe
[12:08] <mespejel> i had try many now.. ubuntu, kubuntu, sabayon, fedora, pclinux
[12:09] <_raven_> how to configure dns with ifconfig?
[12:09] <mespejel> ubuntu my favorite
[12:09] <dnivra> oCean, but that would still need to iso. right?
[12:09] <greenIT> ikonia: when i boot my computer, i pressed <esc> to see when it hangs, and it is always at the same point: "Starting x11 login manager slim..."
[12:09] <_raven_> how to configure dns with ifconfig?
[12:09] <ezra-s> dnivra , oCean thanks for the answers
[12:09] <_raven_> how to cange keyboard layout in command line?
[12:09] <nimrod10> _raven_, you configure it in resolv.conf not with ifconfig
[12:09] <VCoolio> mespejel: there's bodhi linux too, = ubuntu + e17, quite new
[12:10] <oCean> dnivra: wubi can be installed as any windows application
[12:10] <oCean> !wubi > dnivra
[12:10] <ikonia> _raven_: you don't
[12:10] <_raven_> nimrod10, but there was any command to do this
[12:10] <ikonia> greenIT: look in the X.org log, see if anything is a give away
[12:10] <nimrod10> _raven_,  use vim/nano to edit  /etc/resolv.conf
[12:10] <dnivra> oCean, and you can install ubuntu after installing wubi? without the iso?
[12:11] <nimrod10> _raven_,  check out  the ubuntu manual ,    ubuntu-manual.org
[12:11] <VCoolio> _raven_: setxkbmap for temporary keyboard layout switch
[12:12] <oCean> dnivra: yes, as explained in the guide
[12:12] <mespejel> VCoolio: thanks i will read about it, its based on ubuntu 10.04?
[12:13] <VCoolio> mespejel: lts version, yes
[12:13] <dnivra> oCean, yeah just saw it-it downloads the packages. that is as good as downloading the iso I'd say. still that's a pretty cool thing.
[12:13] <EvilMachine> q
[12:14] <greenIT> ikonia, i have two logs of Xorg (Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old), where should be a hint of the malfunction when i tried it yesterday?
[12:15] <wwwyzzerdd> my power manager has stopped detecting power state. when unplugging i have to go to system > preferences > power management to detect plugged/unplugged. what's going on?
[12:15] <ajaxError> Hello - I am not able to hear any audio from my Ubuntu Lucid (works when I boot to Windows 7) - How do I check/get audio working?
[12:16] <ajaxError> HELLO!
[12:16] <greenIT> ajaxError, do you have a hdmi-output?
[12:16] <davejb> im trying to install ubuntu and i get the error "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"... anyone know what this means please?
[12:16] <ajaxError> no - its a Creative Soundcard
[12:17] <ajaxError> Soundblaster 5.1 VX
[12:17] <davejb> i have a clean box with X25-M 80GB drive and DVD reader
[12:17] <davejb> the X25-M has never been used
[12:17] <davejb> its all new parts
[12:17] <greenIT> ajaxError, hm... click on the speaker in the upper right corner and select "audio-preferences"
[12:17] <davejb> it drops into console saying "BusyBox v1.15.3
[12:18] <ajaxError> The icon is not seen
[12:18] <davejb> and then (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[12:18] <Kersey> #ubuntu-it
[12:18] <greenIT> ajaxError, ok, then go to System > Preferences > Sound
[12:19] <ajaxError> I followed some instructions from some article and broke I think
[12:19] <ajaxError> says
[12:19] <nimrod10> How does one change their keyboard preferences from the command line without using the gnome keyboard switcher gui. I want to change it per whole system !
[12:19] <ajaxError> Waiting for Sound system to respond
[12:19] <greenIT> thats bad....
[12:19] <greenIT> sry, can't help you in this case :S
[12:20] <ajaxError> :(
[12:20] <ajaxError> should I try a reinstall of ubuntu then?
[12:21] <ajaxError> I can setup everything again - am worried about the data
[12:22] <thehungus> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 segfaults, I can't run ANY 32-bit application under x86_64 maverick (10.10)
[12:23] <ajaxError> greenIT: I uninstalled pulseaudio (in the hopes that I can reinstall the old version - I am stuck there now not knowing how to proceed)
[12:23] <ajaxError> because when I installed Ubuntu for the first time it worked
[12:24] <ajaxError> and once I made ubuntu software updates it broke
[12:24] <greenIT> i have a problem with the simple login manager (SLiM), can anyone help me? as it seems not only i have a problem with it, so here is a thread, where the problem is described better (not from me) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1606731&highlight=slim
[12:27] <mario12> hi here
[12:29] <davejb> anyone help please "Unable to find a medium containing a live filesystem" on fresh 10.10 install with cd?
[12:30] <psycho_oreos> is this before you install or after you install?
[12:31] <davejb> psycho_oreos: before
[12:31] <davejb> psycho_oreos: i have new machine, new parts and never had any OS on before
[12:31] <psycho_oreos> davejb, aha as I thought have you checked the burned disc for defects?
[12:31] <davejb> psycho_oreos: i cut the iso image on my laptop to standard 700MB sony cd
[12:31] <psycho_oreos> davejb, and that's not a good idea
[12:32] <davejb> psycho_oreos: no, but I am transfering it onto a pen drive this time to see if its a write probelm on the cd?
[12:32] <davejb> psycho_oreos: or do you think the download could be corrupt?
[12:32] <davejb> psycho_oreos: the cd boots ok on my latop into the trial version
[12:33] <psycho_oreos> davejb, good idea, best not to cut the image up unless you know what you are doing. Also yes I would also check to see if the download is corrupt. There might be a slight chance but then again you said you cut the image up which can complicate the issue
[12:33] <Avi__> I am installing ubuntu server after activating raid during setup. I have to configure iSCSI volumes. After I select Log into iSCSI targets, I need to enter the "iSCSI target portal address". After entering the ip, I get the following error: "No iSCSI targets discovered".
[12:33] <Avi__> Please help.
[12:33] <davejb> psycho_oreos: im trying it again now from the usb pen
[12:34] <psycho_oreos> davejb, and yes I would also tend to recommend putting it onto pendrive as the writing is more stable. Aboveall the speeds whilst using pendrive would be faster than reading stuff from optical drive
[12:34] <nimrod10> Avi__, try  asking in #ubuntu-server
[12:34] <nimrod10> Avi__, they might know
[12:34] <davejb> psycho_oreos: im trying the trial version from the pen drive and its working
[12:34] <Avi__> ok thanks
[12:34] <davejb> psycho_oreos: this machine rocks
[12:34] <davejb> psycho_oreos: 10 seconds to start in trial mode!
[12:35] <psycho_oreos> davejb, sony?
[12:35] <davejb> psycho_oreos: core i7 with x58 asus board
[12:35] <davejb> psycho_oreos: hand made
[12:35] <davejb> psycho_oreos: could imagine my disappointment when i inserted the cd.  the cd was sony
[12:35] <psycho_oreos> davejb, and why trial mode? that sounds quite weird.. unless you meant trial mode as in live mode
[12:36] <psycho_oreos> davejb, heh that might be the source of the issue
[12:36] <davejb> psycho_oreos: the pen has option to start in trial mode rather than install
[12:37] <davejb> any advice for partioning a X25-M 80GB SSD disk for ubuntu 10.10?
[12:37] <psycho_oreos> davejb, I believe trial is definitely live mode :) and that isn't pen drive specific. A burned DVD disc can still boot into live mode
[12:37] <psycho_oreos> err burned ubuntu DVD disc
[12:37] <charliemac> How can I activate laptop speakers?
[12:38] <Gnea> charliemac: they should be on already
[12:38] <davejb> psycho_oreos: any advice for paritioning 80GB SSD drive?
[12:38] <charliemac> Gnea: agreed.
[12:38] <Gnea> davejb: don't put any swap on it
[12:38] <davejb> psycho_oreos: also, should I tick "Install this third-party software" on the install menu?
[12:38] <davejb> Gnea: any reason?
[12:38] <Gnea> charliemac: that aside, have you tried alsamixer?
[12:38] <Gnea> davejb: kills the drive faster if you use it
[12:38] <vak> I try to create a user allowed to use "sudo": sudo adduser testuser admin ==> "adduser: The user `testuser' does not exist". Why?!..
[12:39] <psycho_oreos> davejb, 256MB for /boot, 50GB for /home and rest for / but that also depends on how much RAM you have
[12:39] <davejb> Gnea: will it effect performance... I don't have any other drives in the machine?
[12:39] <davejb> psycho_oreos: i have 6GB DDR3 2000
[12:39] <charliemac> Gnea: what's alsamixer?
[12:39] <psycho_oreos> it affects depending on how much RAM you have and what sort of applications you intend to run. Well with 6GB that's plenty :)
[12:40] <Gnea> davejb: as I said, it will decrease the overall life of the drive
[12:40] <Gnea> charliemac: it's a command-line based program to adjust volume levels
[12:40] <davejb> ok, so no swap space for ssh?
[12:40] <davejb> *ssd
[12:40] <psycho_oreos> no its not a good idea and plus you have plenty of RAM so that's ok to go without swap
[12:41] <Gnea> that's my general rule of thumb, just attach a regular hdd and use double the amount of ram for swap on that
[12:41] <greenIT> ikonia, are you here?
[12:41] <davejb> psycho_oreos: ok.  so 256 for /boot for the kernal images and then...
[12:41] <davejb> psycho_oreos: 50mb for /home?
[12:41] <Gnea> davejb: how much ram do you have?
[12:41] <davejb> Gnea: 6gb
[12:41] <psycho_oreos> davejb, no 50GB for /home
[12:41] <davejb> psycho_oreos: sorry, thats what i meant to write
[12:42] <davejb> psycho_oreos: what will the rest go to?
[12:42] <psycho_oreos> this will give you plenty of personal space and more than enough for one ubuntu setup on that machine
[12:42] <Gnea> davejb: ah okay, you should be fine without any swap then if you don't have a regular hdd to put swap onto.. just don't expect to hibernate
[12:42] <davejb> psycho_oreos: i have a problem cos my device doesnt show up in the device list :(
[12:43] <davejb> psycho_oreos: i guess i need to drop in to the bios for this
[12:43] <psycho_oreos> davejb, that could be because the controller is not supported or a specific mode, could be AHCI but that shouldn't be the case because AHCI works on my ancient xubuntu setup
[12:44] <davejb> psycho_oreos: the drives aren't showing in the bios
[12:44] <davejb> sata 1 Not Detected
[12:44] <davejb> sata 2 through 6 are same
[12:44] <greenIT> finally i know the problem with my login manager: it doesn't recognize my screen (Fatal server error: no screens found). but how can i fix this issue?
[12:44] <psycho_oreos> davejb, that's unusual, the device might not be powered or connected probably
[12:44] <numberto> I am on my laptop with ubuntu 10.10.   At work right now I just connected to internet through our proxy. The internet is working fine but there is a game which I try to connect to, it does not connect. I tried to ping google and it said "unknown host". What is the problem
[12:45] <psycho_oreos> numberto, DNS servers not specified
[12:45] <davejb> it showed up in the screen but when i enter bios nothing
[12:45] <BuMpIc> hi can you help me, why i can't go to #backtrack-linux?
[12:46] <davejb> psycho_oreos: it has sata config saying "configure sata as [IDE,
[12:46] <numberto> psycho_oreos: I put <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:46] <davejb> psycho_oreos: it has sata config saying "configure sata as [IDE, RAID or AHCI]
[12:46] <psycho_oreos> davejb, *shrugs* probably AHCI
[12:47] <psycho_oreos> numberto, where?
[12:47] <psycho_oreos> BuMpIc, check your status screen
[12:47] <BuMpIc> where?:D (im newbie)
[12:47] <psycho_oreos> BuMpIc, ask in #freenode
[12:47] <BuMpIc> ok
[12:47] <davejb> Gnea: have any idea on "sata config saying "configure sata as [IDE, RAID or AHCI]" which one to go for, for X25-M SSD"?
[12:48] <eXpLoD> Let's say I'm playing a game,and then a friend messages me on MSN.How do I switch the window with the game to the window with MSN?alt+tab wont work
[12:50] <vooze> Hi, if i removed the topline of a program (you know, where you see files, settings help etc." how do i get it back ? :(
[12:51] <imi> I can't download packages files
[12:51] <LjL> vooze: in KDE, Ctrl+M
[12:51] <LjL> vooze: no idea in GNOME, but maybe it's the same... worth trying i guess
[12:52] <imi> I can't download packages files
[12:52] <LjL> imi: what error?
[12:52] <madsailor> eXpLoD, alt tab should work.  For this and loads of other keyboard shortcuts check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[12:52] <imi> Hiba http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main rpm 4.7.2-1lbuild1 unsuccesfull to connect
[12:52] <eXpLoD> well alt+tab didnt worked at all
[12:53] <LjL> imi: hu.archive.ubuntu.com is down for me. try switching to another mirror. do you know how to edit /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:53] <imi> mcedit
[12:53] <imi> what mirror should I add?
[12:53] <vooze> LjL, nope :(
[12:53] <LjL> imi: any will do. i use se.archive.ubuntu.com, but just archive.ubuntu.com should work
[12:54] <vooze> what is the "menu/line" called? is easyer to google then
[12:54] <imi> ok. thanks
[12:54] <LjL> vooze: menubar
[12:54] <Daghdha> Is there software like trueimage for Ubuntu where i can make an image and later restore that?
[12:55] <vooze> LjL, CTRL + F9 worked :P
[12:56] <Daghdha> maybe alink to the 'ubuntu make an easy backup boot DVD/USB'?
[12:56] <imi> LjL: thanks, it worked.
[13:02]  * Daghdha shrugs.. yet again i shall just hope Ubuntu doesn't fail and not make any backup of my system.
[13:02] <Diverdude> which IRC clients do you guys use? I use Xchat now, but i would like to use a client where i can define a server to connect to at startup, to identify me at startup and to automatically join a lit of channels at startup. Any suggestions for a nice client that can do that?
[13:02] <charliemac> Diverdude: i like pidgin
[13:02] <Daghdha> It's realy bad ubuntu makes it so easy to install by everyone but doesn't have an easy to use backup system like e.g. win7 has.
[13:03] <Diverdude> charliemac, pidgin can do all the things i just said?
[13:03]  * Daghdha crosses fingers and waits. Tata!
[13:03] <charliemac> Diverdude: nevermind, let me know what you find! :|
[13:03] <charliemac> sorry
[13:03] <donSchoe> also looking for a good irc client
[13:04] <Newa> Diverdude: using Xchat. It does connect to servers and channels automatically at startup.
[13:05] <Gnea> !backup
[13:05] <Gnea> !sbackup
[13:05] <Diverdude> Newa, also it can identify me ?
[13:06] <Newa> Diverdude: there's a nickserv password in the network settings to do automatic identifying
[13:06] <HackeMate> hello
[13:07] <davejb> which irc channel should i ask about BIOS settings for SATA SSD drive?
[13:07] <HackeMate> i have iptables installed but when i try restart it,i get this error sudo /etc/init.d/iptables command not found
[13:07] <HackeMate> davejb: since it is an explicit configuration of a motherboard i could try in #hardware
[13:07] <davejb> ok thanks
[13:07] <Gnea> HackeMate: why did you think /etc/init.d/iptables existed in the first place?
[13:08] <Newa> Diverdude: in the network settings, check "connect automatically at startup" to connect to the network. Autojoin channels are added as favourite channels in Xchat
[13:08] <HackeMate> Gnea: my common sense fails much times
[13:08] <HackeMate> whats the way to restart iptables then?
[13:09] <thalll> Hi, i having a problem, im trying to install winxp as a guest os at my ubuntu server 10.10, and i got so far that it says "domain installation still in progress….", i can connect to it via ssh at the br0 <IP_ADDRESS>, but im trying connect via vnc but it wont work, my connection get closed, what have i forgot?
[13:09] <Gnea> HackeMate: I usually get the firewall rules set, then save them using iptables-save, then use a post-up command for networking to call iptables-restore
[13:09] <HackeMate> ok
[13:09] <HackeMate> thanks
[13:09] <GHH> Still i am fail fixing my nvidia problem
[13:09] <Gnea> !iptables | HackeMate
[13:10] <Gnea> HackeMate: of course, there are other methods
[13:10] <bonzai_pete> xchat noob here, hello the room
[13:10] <Gnea> bonzai_pete: welcome to irc, where we don't have rooms, but channels
[13:10] <bonzai_pete> could someone tell me how to change my nick please
[13:10] <Gnea> bonzai_pete: /nick somethingnew
[13:10] <bonzai_pete> big thanks
[13:13] <davejb> psycho_oreos: i know this is a little off-topic but should my X25-M SSD drive be on the SATA III (6gb/s) port or SATA 2 (3gbb/s) port?
[13:14] <psycho_oreos> davejb, best to check the specs as per documented for the hardware
[13:14] <davejb> psycho_oreos: its a sata II drive, I think this must be it
[13:15] <novitololo> hi all
[13:15] <novitololo> Excuse me guys, what does this means :The /var/www directory is owned by root:root ? Why is root:root, and not just root?
[13:15] <psycho_oreos> novitololo, uid = root, gid = root
[13:15] <LjL> novitololo: it's owned by the user root, and the group root
[13:16] <novitololo> ok thanks
[13:16] <novitololo> :)
[13:16] <fdtom> hello
[13:16] <fdtom> how are you
[13:16] <Bilz> hello, basic bash scripting question: beta=$[$beta+0.01] is in my code, but i got an error :\ any ideas why? i set beta=1.94 before i do this if thats an issue?
[13:17] <s0u][ight> !samsung
[13:17] <LjL> Bilz: you can't use decimal numbers in bash like that
[13:18] <Bilz> doh
[13:18] <LjL> you're restricted to integers. i'm afraid i don't remember how to deal with decimals
[13:18] <LjL> Bilz: you should probably try #bash
[13:18] <novato_br> where is my webcam? ==> look at my lspci => http://pastebin.com/physYByr
[13:18] <Bilz> LjL, thanks. im new to bash, ill google it
[13:18] <induz> hello when i try to install compiz via synaptic manager i get this;compiz-gnome:
[13:18] <induz>   Depends: compiz-core (=1:0.8.4-0ubuntu15) but 1:0.8.4-0ubuntu15.2 is to be installed
[13:18] <induz>   Depends: compiz-plugins (=1:0.8.4-0ubuntu15) but 1:0.8.4-0ubuntu15.2 is to be installed
[13:18] <novato_br> I didn't find it
[13:19] <novato_br> when I had installed the ubuntu 9.10, my webcam always show up
[13:19] <BuMpIc> where can i register to freenode?
[13:19] <LjL> !register > BuMpIc    (BuMpIc, see the private message from ubottu)
[13:19] <novato_br> BuMpIc: ask for helping #freenode
[13:19] <mhmjj_> hihi
[13:20] <mhmjj_> i have problem
[13:20] <induz> hello here; http://paste.ubuntu.com/559881/
[13:20] <novato_br> mhmjj_: what's your problem
[13:20] <lieuwe> i'm trying to format sda, but gparted tells me it's aperantly in use by the system. umount tells me its not mounted...
[13:20] <induz> what should i do?
[13:21] <judgepg> lieuwe: try closing and re-opening gparted
[13:21] <lieuwe> judgepg: okies
[13:21] <_raven_> mount wrong fs type - what is the command for ext4?
[13:21] <judgepg> lieuwe: I suppose here sda is just a USB drive/key you've got plugged in?
[13:22] <lieuwe> judgepg: same error, sda in use
[13:22] <_raven_> mount wrong fs type - what is the command for ext4?
[13:23] <judgepg> lieuwe: open a terminal window and type df -h.  Is anything mounted?
[13:23] <judgepg> lieuwe: on sda
[13:23] <novato_br> why does webcam show up?
[13:23] <davejb> got my drives recognised using SATA ports.    Is sda some external drive?
[13:25] <induz> why i get this error; apt-cdrom
[13:25] <lieuwe> judgepg: no, internal, but hooked up to an pci card
[13:26] <lieuwe> judgepg: i can hook it up to the mobo directly tho...
[13:27] <judgepg> lieuwe: then I think it would recognize as hdb, etc...
[13:27] <judgepg> lieuwe: might be a good approach as you said
[13:27] <dondon_> !!Soundcards recognised by ALSA !!-----------------------------  --- no soundcards ---   !!PCI Soundcards installed in the system !!--------------------------------------  06:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[13:27] <lieuwe> judgepg: okay, lemme try that then, brb
[13:27] <dondon_> why :9
[13:27] <judgepg> lieuwe: k
[13:29] <induz> how can i install 'compiz'
[13:29] <induz> on lucid lynx
[13:29] <Spodey> Should already be installed
[13:29] <novato_br> ubuntu 10.10 DOESN'T DETECTED webcam
[13:30] <jazka_> is there a way to restart usb ports ? i have a problem with usb devices that stop responding...nothing obvious in the logs, i ran wireshark (sniffing the usb ports) and no activity there after a freeze...
[13:30] <datta> i am trying to put the grub menu to select Vista as my default OS whenever it boots up
[13:30] <novato_br> !webcam
[13:30] <judgepg> induz: apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager
[13:30] <datta> in the previous versions i could just edit sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst but now it doesnt work
[13:30] <datta> now does anyone know what i have to do in Ubuntu 10.04?
[13:31] <judgepg> datta: nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[13:32] <datta> judgepg: this looks more confusing than before
[13:32] <judgepg> datta: legacy GRUB uses menu.lst - current uses grub.cfg
[13:32] <judgepg> datta: What's so confusing.  Scroll to the bottom to see the boot options
[13:32] <superxgl> hi all , i use " insmod agpgart" and " insmod intel_agp" ,then " lsmod | grep agpgart"  , i can see the module agpgart
[13:32] <induz> judgepg, thanks i was using this command;sudo add-apt-repository ppa:compiz/ppa && sudo apt-get update
[13:32] <induz> sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:33] <datta> judgepg: do you know what i should do to select the 4th OS on the list?
[13:33] <superxgl> but after i reboot, " lsmod | grep agpgart" has nothing...
[13:33] <superxgl> so i can not start x window
[13:33] <induz> judgepg, how do i know its installed??
[13:33] <Oer> datta maybe this is any help >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS
[13:33] <superxgl> anyone there has any idea how to solve this problem?
[13:33] <judgepg> datta: Sorry, what are you trying to accomplish?
[13:34] <dondon_> judgepg: do you accept bribes?
[13:34] <datta> judgepg: never mind Oer helped me with the guide
[13:34] <judgepg> induz: Try to configure it - launch it with: ccsm
[13:34] <judgepg> datta: Cool
[13:36] <judgepg> dondon_: lol, what?
[13:36] <dondon_> judgepg: do you know anything about problems with snd modules not loading?
[13:36] <dondon_> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=af47f4c3ea0a4ef36fb3b1551da380a9854f94f3
[13:37] <judgepg> dondon_: Sorry, I don't know.
[13:37] <Spodey> Is it USB sound?
[13:37] <dondon_> no
[13:37] <datta> 0er: its not word to word in the guide and the text i find. I hope this is the line that you have to edit: set default="0" if [ ${prev_saved_entry} ]; then
[13:37] <dondon_> its pci
[13:38] <Spodey> Does it load manually?
[13:38] <dondon_> if you click on that link it shows it sees the hardware, which is on the list of supported cards but wont load
[13:38] <dondon_> no it hangs
[13:39] <dondon_> sudo modprobe snd-cmipci hangs
[13:39] <Spodey> Have you tried installing the backport sound drivers?
[13:40] <datta> does anyone know what i should edit in nano /boot/grb/grub.cfg
[13:40] <datta> which line perhaps so that i load a different OS in every boot other than Ubuntu?
[13:40] <gobbe> !grub | datta
[13:40] <dondon_> no
[13:41] <cor_r> is there something like daemon tools for ubuntu? and how do I play divx online?
[13:41] <novitololo> Hi there: I've modified permissions for /var/www, and I have the following now: ''drwxrwxr-x  2 root web   4096 2011-01-29 11:27 www''. I'm logged in a user who belongs to the 'web' group, but when I try to write a file into the www folder it doesn't let me do it. Any thoughts?
[13:41] <Spodey> datta : there should be "default" setting with a number?
[13:41] <gobbe> cor_r: if you mean daemon tools for mounting iso, you can do it without any software
[13:41] <datta> Spodey: theres a couple, is it the first one?
[13:41] <cor_r> gobbe: I can? how so?
[13:42] <Spodey> More than one? Sure one isn't remarked?
[13:42] <gobbe> cor_r: mount -o loop something.iso /path/To/mount
[13:42] <dondon_> Spodey: where would i obtain backported drivers? alsa?
[13:42] <datta> Spodey: I will then change the first one, hope that works
[13:42] <gobbe> novitololo: what does id <user> say?
[13:42] <novitololo> root
[13:43] <gobbe> novitololo: only?
[13:43] <cor_r> gobbe: I c, thank you very much
[13:43] <Spodey> dondon_: There's a WIKI on that topic - I'll have a quick google. IIRC you need the backports repos enabled, but ideally, you want to only install the alsa modules and nothing else,.
[13:43] <gobbe> novitololo: group changes wont be affective until you relogin
[13:43] <novitololo> user --> root, group --> web
[13:43] <novitololo> mmm
[13:43] <novitololo> I did relogin
[13:44] <datta> Spodey: any idea on how to save also? the terminal just kills me with its codes
[13:44] <novitololo> well, I closed the terminal, and opened again
[13:44] <gobbe> novitololo: and what does touch /var/www/something say?
[13:44] <cor_r> Andhow do I play/stream divx videos ? I tried with tote and vlc -> mozilla plugin, mozplugger but it wont play
[13:44] <novitololo> what do u mean?
[13:44] <novitololo> permissions?
[13:44] <mneptok> novitololo: where did the "web" grouo come from? usuallt the httpd processes on Ubuntu run as www-data
[13:44] <novitololo> I created the web group
[13:44] <Spodey> dondon_: try installing linux-backports-modules-alsa-maverick-generic
[13:44] <gobbe> novitololo:run "touch /var/www/something" and say what happens
[13:44] <Spodey> datta: Are you in nano?
[13:45] <novitololo> ok
[13:45] <datta> Spodey: yeah
[13:45] <novitololo> touch: cannot touch `/var/www/hola': Permission denied
[13:45] <vooze> I'm currently using ubuntu 10.04 installed with Wubi from windows 7.. is that a bad idea.. in the long run?? or should it be fine?
[13:45] <Spodey> Just CTRL+X to quit and yes to save
[13:45] <mneptok> novitololo: use the "groups" command to ensure the users you *think* are in the "web" group are actually members
[13:46] <gobbe> novitololo: run "ls -ltrah /var | grep www" and "groups" and paste those to pastebin
[13:46] <novitololo> they are..
[13:46] <esing> Hi
[13:46] <novitololo> ok
[13:46] <dondon_> Spodey: what after that?
[13:46] <cor_r> vooze: why should there be any?
[13:46] <bullgard> Whats the use of /var/log/gmd:0.log?
[13:46] <cor_r> vooze: look at the known bugs, with wubi, mightbe the only problem
[13:46] <datta> Spodey: any idea why it might say "permission denied"?
[13:46] <Spodey> datta: You didn't use Sudo
[13:46] <Spodey> dondon_: Reboot?
[13:47] <esing> I wonder how can I install another Linux Distrubution beside my current Linux Distrubution? ***
[13:47] <qwasic> Hey everyone am running backtrack 4 R1 and recently i updated my metaspolit framework but now am surprised msfweb does not start at all. When enter msfweb in the Konsole it does nothing. Any Idea whats up?
[13:47] <datta> Spodey: thanks for the all the help
[13:47] <esing> hi Spodey
[13:47] <Spodey> datta: NP. Hope it works.
[13:47] <Spodey> Hi esing
[13:47] <novitololo> gobbe: http://pastebin.com/DQTfNtbr
[13:47] <esing> I wonder how can I install another Linux Distrubution beside my current Linux Distrubution? *** Spodey
[13:48] <Spodey> On the same HD?
[13:48] <esing> Yes
[13:48] <cor_r> Andhow do I play/stream divx videos ? I tried with tote and vlc -> mozilla plugin, mozplugger but it wont play  and how do I clean up the apt-get chache of downloaded files?
[13:49] <Spodey> esing: Depending on the distro - the installer should help take care of the partitioning, and usually the grub setup too. Worst case scenario - you'll have to manually configure grub
[13:49] <mneptok> novitololo: log out and back in
[13:49] <davejb> psycho_oreos: sorry to be a hassle. what size should i use again for /boot ?
[13:49] <gobbe> novitololo: as you can see, your group change is not working, upper line shows that your user is not currently in web group, please do relogin
[13:49] <Spodey> esing: Fairly sure Ubuntu-based distributions play nicely.
[13:49] <davejb> psycho_oreos: i have my ubuntu seeing the drive this time
[13:49] <esing> Spodey Ergo I just burn the Ubuntu9.10.iso on a CD and boot from it ??
[13:49] <mneptok> novitololo: your user is part of the "web" group, but your current session is unaware of the change.
[13:49] <brontoeee> cor_r, define divx video, is that mp4 or what, are you streaming on the internal network or how?
[13:49] <Spodey> esing: Yeah - or stick it on a USB stick
[13:49] <novitololo> gobbe: you are right, and I'm sorry. I thought closing the terminal was like logging out, it doesn't seem so.
[13:49] <psycho_oreos> davejb, 256MB
[13:49] <davejb> psycho_oreos: (i had the drive plugged into the SATA III controller instead of the SATA II
[13:49] <Spodey> esing: What are you running now?
[13:50] <esing> Spodey I am running currently Lubuntu 10.10
[13:50] <le0-> how do you auto start programs at boot
[13:50] <CQ> hello, how can I listen to shoutcast streams after selecting them with firefox? audio aorks (tested with amarok), gecko-mediaplayer isntalled, but no sound when selecting a stream...
[13:50] <mneptok> novitololo: terminals attach to your current session, managed by GDM
[13:50] <Spodey> esing: Yeah, once your running the 9.10 installer (although why you would want to run an odler version...) it'll ask if you want to run them side by side
[13:50] <novitololo> ok thanks mneptok
[13:50] <novitololo> brb
[13:51] <cor_r> brontoeee: avi and mkv , tried streamin internal and online both dont work
[13:51] <davejb> psycho_oreos: should I use Primary or Logical?
[13:51] <esing> Spodey Perfect then I will try this now.  ..... I want to run an older Version because a driver of my PCMCIA III (old card) doesnt work with 10.10 yet
[13:51] <davejb> psycho_oreos: Location for the new partion [Beginning or End]
[13:51] <psycho_oreos> for that part primary, for the rest, best to be logical
[13:51] <esing> Spodey Thnx bey
[13:51] <Spodey> esing : Good luck!
[13:52] <davejb> psycho_oreos: so i setup boot first as primary?
[13:52] <davejb> psycho_oreos: or setup /home first?
[13:52] <brontoeee> cor_r, and you are using vlc? well, good luck with that
[13:52] <psycho_oreos> davejb, I think its a good idea for you to stick with the standard guided install and edit out the swap partition, saves you lots of questioning :) or at least me
[13:52] <Sonderblade> anyone know what the font is on this image and how you can install it? http://img.skitch.com/20080410-bb7w15jn3m8d2qkum5wdgnrj3b.png&path=
[13:53] <shomon> hi, how do I get my apache set up on dyndns? I've done all the steps but nothing is coming through...
[13:53] <davejb> psycho_oreos:  there doesn't appear to be an option for this
[13:53] <novitololo> gobbe: thanks mate :). Also, what were you saying about www-data?
[13:53] <cor_r> brontoeee: I tried vlc and totem, also wiki said vlc would be the easiest to use... what else to use then?
[13:53] <gobbe> novitololo: nothing :)
[13:53] <davejb> psycho_oreos: i'll throw the question out to the whole channel
[13:53] <psycho_oreos> davejb, I think its before you choose the manual partitioning. iirc you get like 4 options
[13:53] <brontoeee> cor_r, and videos have to be embeded into some browser or not?
[13:53] <gobbe> novitololo: someone else told that its www-data
[13:53] <novitololo> what do u mean www-data?
[13:53] <novitololo> what is this "-data"
[13:54] <mneptok> novitololo: what httpd are you using?
[13:54] <novitololo> apache
[13:54] <mneptok> novitololo: ps aux | grep apache
[13:54] <davejb> psycho_oreos: 1 is type [primary | logical] . 2 is size in Mb. 3 is location [beginning or end]. 4 ext4 journaling file system or changable and 5 is mount point
[13:54] <cor_r> brontoeee: I want to watchem, its not that I stream them myself, and yes they are embedded
[13:54] <mneptok> novitololo: note the user/group that Apache runs as
[13:55] <dondon_> Spodey: still hangs when trying to manually start
[13:55] <davejb> psycho_oreos: normally, i'd go with defaults but its an X25-M SSD drive
[13:55] <novitololo> wow
[13:55] <novitololo> wtf is that
[13:55] <novitololo> ._.
[13:55] <brontoeee> cor_r, can you figure out the url to the exact video file?
[13:55] <dondon_> i think sound working in linux is a myth
[13:55] <mneptok> novitololo: www-data is a group created when you install an httpd. the httpd runs as this user.
[13:55] <Spodey> dondon_: Does the whole machine hang and not respond?
[13:55] <dondon_> the terminal just sits there
[13:56] <psycho_oreos> davejb, yeah but there's an option with defaults plus editing, so I'd go with that, that should give you a much easier setup and all you have to do is edit the swap out and maybe expand / (rootfs)
[13:56] <novitololo> but if I wanna modify the var/www, it's correct to do that?
[13:56] <dondon_> i can ctrl c out of it
[13:56] <cor_r> brontoeee: yes, but it wont play in any player, and trying to play it in browser doesnt work as well, doesnt even show the play menue...
[13:56] <novitololo> right?, creating a group that has permissions to do so
[13:56] <Spodey> dondon_: Did you check dmesg to see what was going on?
[13:56] <dondon_> Spodey: how do i do that?
[13:56] <davejb> psycho_oreos: the only option on 10.10 install is "erase and use the entire disk" or manual config
[13:56] <mneptok> novitololo: sure, but i would use the existing group. the way you have things now, your webroot wil have to be world-readable in order for Apache to serve the pages
[13:56] <brontoeee> cor_r, mplayer http://pathtovideo.avi says what?
[13:56] <apocalyptiq> hi, i have some problem with wifi on ubuntu, a few days ago it stopped working
[13:57] <apocalyptiq> here is my ifconfig:
[13:57] <shomon> I'm trying to set up an ip address on my static host (vodafone) so as to serve pages to the outside world with dyndns. I-ve heard I had to add "listen" with my external ip... but this doesn-t seem to work... anyone know how to fix this?
[13:57] <apocalyptiq> about wlan:
[13:57] <Spodey> dondon_: Just go to the terminal (after you ctrl+c perhaps) and type dmesg
[13:57] <apocalyptiq> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:de:9e:51:a8
[13:57] <apocalyptiq>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[13:57] <apocalyptiq>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[13:57] <apocalyptiq>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[13:57] <apocalyptiq>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[13:57] <apocalyptiq>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
[13:57] <FloodBot2> apocalyptiq: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:57] <psycho_oreos> davejb, weird, I guess they've simplfiied that now
[13:57] <novitololo> then what would you do? put my user to the www-data group?
[13:57] <psycho_oreos> s/simplfiied/simplified/
[13:57] <novitololo> I don't see how would you solve that. If I want my user to be able to write files to /var/www
[13:58] <dondon_> Spodey: i guess i lied its not letting me now
[13:58] <mneptok> novitololo: i would add anyone that needs to edit and change web content to a special group ("web" will work). then chown and chmod tyhe webroot to web:www-data 644
[13:58] <brontoeee> novitololo, you may want to : a . chown /var/www to www-data user , b. add your user to www-data group
[13:58] <Spodey> dondon_: Can you open another terminal? Or ctrl+z ?
[13:59] <brontoeee> novitololo, if you need exact command lines, let me know
[13:59] <mneptok> novitololo: the httpd should not have to write out to files, so read should be enough
[13:59] <novitololo> you guys are great, love learning all this
[13:59] <mneptok> novitololo: de nada
[13:59] <lobedfin> @novitololo im late to the party, what were you guys talking about
[14:00] <brontoeee> mneptok, how come if php runs as www-data user as well?
[14:00] <novitololo> I'm gonna google a little bit, and be back
[14:00] <mneptok> brontoeee: because the PHP scripts are invoked by the httpd, who is ww-data
[14:00] <brontoeee> mneptok, yes and they sometimes need to write as well, right?
[14:00] <dondon_> Spodey: [    4.817981] snd_seq_device: Unknown symbol snd_info_register (err 0) [    4.818071] snd_seq_device: Unknown symbol snd_info_create_module_entry (err 0) [    4.818169] snd_seq_device: Unknown symbol snd_info_free_entry (err 0) [    4.818264] snd_seq_device: Unknown symbol snd_seq_root (err 0) [    4.818376] snd_seq_device: Unknown symbol snd_iprintf (err 0) [    4.818522] snd_seq_device: Unknown symbol snd_device_new (err 0
[14:01] <lobedfin> forever alone
[14:01] <mneptok> brontoeee: to files in the web directory? i certainly hope not.
[14:01] <Spodey> dondon_: Looks like we have a good clue to start googling :)
[14:01] <dondon_> Spodey: thats all i see that looks related
[14:01] <niles> I cant find the php.ini on my iphone, I am sure I installed it but its not there, I tryed "find / php.ini | grep php.ini" any ideas
[14:01] <mneptok> niles: we don;t do iPhone support here
[14:01] <cor_r> brontoeee: never min , I just figured it myself ^^ , thank you very much though
[14:01] <novitololo> mneptok: gobbe: I have to go to eat, I will be right back. Thanks a lot
[14:01] <brontoeee> mneptok, cough, what? where else would they write?
[14:02] <niles> ok, sorry
[14:02] <Oer> niles, are you running ubuntu on your iphone ?
[14:02] <niles> no
[14:02] <niles> ios
[14:02] <niles> lol
[14:02] <lobedfin> hi, can you please respond if you're seeing me
[14:02] <brontoeee> cor_r, what was it?
[14:02] <niles> lobedfin: we see you
[14:02] <niles> superhero: we see you
[14:02] <brontoeee> lobedfin, i wonder why you didnt say a word today
[14:02] <mneptok> brontoeee: you have a PHP app that creates files in the Unix filesystem in the publicly accessible web directories? really?
[14:03] <lobedfin> @brontoeee ??? first time ive been on irc
[14:03] <niles> well thats real safe
[14:03] <Spodey> dondon_: What kernel version are you running?
[14:03] <cor_r> brontoeee: mplayer and totem download the file before I can play , didnt realize that. and vlc asked me to repair file, I just had to decline the dialogue there to watch^^.... typicall stupidity by me^^
[14:03] <lobedfin> how does irc work?
[14:04] <brontoeee> mneptok, we are talking about a development server here, right? my web apps that need to write stuff have specific permissions for specific folders usually
[14:04] <lobedfin> this is all confusing
[14:04] <dondon_> Spodey: 2.6.35-25-generic
[14:04] <cor_r> still need to figure how to play embedded files though^^
[14:04] <lobedfin> its fast though
[14:04] <qwasic> am running backtrack 4 R1 and recently i updated my metaspolit framework but now am surprised msfweb does not start at all. When enter msfweb in the Konsole it does nothing. Could you please tell me how i can repair the installation?
[14:04] <amalgama> hi...do you know a good guide to create terminal applications (for lack of better words) for ubuntu?? eg how to graphically separate the terminal in parts etc..
[14:04] <lobedfin> wow, you guys soudn like pros
[14:04] <Oer> !backtrack | qwasic
[14:04] <mneptok> brontoeee: your web apps that need to write stuff should be storing their variable data in a database, not flat files.
[14:05] <brontoeee> mneptok, every cms webapp behaves like that, unless you are talking about something i dont understand :)
[14:05] <Spodey> dondon_: Nothing is coming up in my searches - those messages might be unrelated.
[14:05] <habeous> amalgama: what do you want these applications to do?
[14:05] <brontoeee> mneptok, config files, themes, images, ect, wordpress is a good example of that
[14:05] <katselphrime> good evening guys
[14:05] <mneptok> brontoeee: most CMSes need to write out one file. an XML for RSS and such. everything else is in the database.
[14:06] <brontoeee> mneptok, wordpress stores images in database? hopefully not
[14:06] <mneptok> brontoeee: WP needing to *write* to theme files is not something i have seen
[14:06] <brontoeee> mneptok, wp can install theme itself
[14:06] <brontoeee> mneptok, and plugins
[14:06] <habeous> katselphrime: riiiight, i just dragged myself out of bed and had breakfast.
[14:06] <tefx> hey anyoen  notcied empthay dosent seem to want o sign in on msn accounts ??
[14:07] <amalgama> habeous: it is just a way for me to learn things.. for start i would like to make something like a graphical shortcut for the various commands which are used more frequently
[14:07] <apocalyptiq> anybody have some idea why WIFI on Ubuntu (Lenovo R60) could suddelny stop to working?
[14:07] <damian> hi
[14:07] <lobedfin> hello
[14:07] <apocalyptiq> it was working ok since about year
[14:07] <brontoeee> mneptok, well, not my wordpress, since i cant be bothered with persmissions, i'am talking about correctly installed wordpress :)
[14:08] <habeous> create a launcher on your desktop and enter in the command. use gksu instead of sudo
[14:08] <apocalyptiq> and a few days ago suddenly stopped... wifi LED isn't on
[14:08] <lobedfin> dunno lol
[14:08] <apocalyptiq> when I run "ifconfig wlan0 up", wifi LED is on
[14:08] <apocalyptiq> but wifi still isn't working
[14:09] <apocalyptiq> "ifconfig" returns that there is wlan0 connection
[14:09] <apocalyptiq> lspci also returns, that tere is a wifi card
[14:09] <brontoeee> mneptok, wp also has a css editor, which obviously need permissions to rewrite a css file...., so point made.
[14:09] <habeous> is there a physical switch on the computer, apocalyptiq?
[14:10] <apocalyptiq> yes, but here, on winXP, wifi is working
[14:10] <apocalyptiq> that switch is on
[14:10] <habeous> just checking, i do that all the time
[14:10] <apocalyptiq> so on Ubuntu it isn't working, on Windows XP - is working
[14:10] <habeous> do you have a broadcom chipset?
[14:10] <apocalyptiq> hm, i don't know
[14:11] <shomon> hiya, how do I install mcrypt on php in ubuntu?
[14:11] <lgn12> Broadcom chips and linux are not a good combo
[14:11] <habeous> what model?
[14:11] <habeous> if it's a dell inspiron, it does.
[14:11] <apocalyptiq> it is Lenovo R60
[14:11] <niles> my broadco chips work like doritos
[14:11] <niles> *broadcom
[14:11] <apocalyptiq> but wifi was working till a few days ago
[14:12] <habeous> oh.
[14:12] <apocalyptiq> i have this laptop about 2 years
[14:12] <apocalyptiq> and on ubuntu wifi was working well
[14:12] <apocalyptiq> but 2 days ago, suddenly it stopped to working
[14:12] <lgn12> You could reinstall
[14:12] <niles> click system -> restricted drivers
[14:12] <habeous> did you do any upgrades?
[14:12] <lgn12> Though if you don't have separate home reinstall would be bad
[14:12] <apocalyptiq> yes, i have 10.04 ubuntu upgraded from 9.xx
[14:13] <lgn12> You could get 10.10
[14:13] <habeous> there's the kicker
[14:13] <apocalyptiq> i was thinking about trying some other linux distro than Ubuntu
[14:13] <habeous> i think you need a driver, do what niles said
[14:13] <apocalyptiq> do you know any? my aim of linux is to programming, in ruby mainly
[14:13] <lgn12> There are lots of distress
[14:14] <lgn12> ^distros
[14:14] <habeous> gentoo compiles from source.
[14:14] <apocalyptiq> arch linux for example? :-)
[14:14] <habeous> i've heard bad things about arch...
[14:14] <habeous> (i tried to set up a vm with it, and failed miserably)
[14:14] <lgn12> Ubuntu, arch, fedora, opensuse, it goes on and on
[14:14] <niles> linux mint, debian
[14:15] <Pp|quish> hi all, i need help. I have installed wubuntu and i set its large to 20gb, but now i find out that iam in need of more. Is there a way how to make it larger?
[14:15] <lgn12> Mandrivia
[14:15] <habeous> puppy
[14:15] <dondon_> gentoo is a nightmare with x :P
[14:15] <habeous> hannah montana lol
[14:15] <lgn12> what's wubuntu?
[14:15] <apocalyptiq> so what is better in Ubuntu than in other distros? :-)
[14:15] <dondon_> with no x its pretty sweet tho
[14:15] <lgn12> Wubi?
[14:16] <Pp|quish> wubuntu=ubuntu installed in windows like application
[14:16] <lgn12> So Wubi
[14:16] <Pp|quish> ys
[14:16] <habeous> eeek wubi
[14:16] <lgn12> Idk how you add more
[14:16] <lgn12> If it were a real install id say resize the partition
[14:17] <habeous> it's a virtual hard disk, so I don't quite know how you'd add more....
[14:17] <niles> its a .vdi file, right
[14:17] <habeous> backup your ubuntu stuff before you start poking
[14:17] <lgn12> You can copy ur files and make a new one
[14:17] <lgn12> Or do an actual install!
[14:18] <lgn12> That's what I did when I got tired of Wubi during the 7.10 days
[14:18] <habeous> that's my advice.... my wubi install reduced my computer to a paperweight because of an update
[14:18] <Pp|quish> is there an easy way how to backup all my settings in ubuntu and applications and files and so on?
[14:18] <lgn12> Idk
[14:18] <apocalyptiq> hm, most, if not all, settings, are in your home directory
[14:19] <habeous> external hard drive.
[14:19] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#head-c1b3095de0e43733f9336427bb90d7ef322de99c Pp|quish
[14:19] <apocalyptiq> .firefox, .thunderbird etc
[14:19] <_raven_> how is the mount smbfs tag to enter the username?
[14:19] <lgn12> So backup /home/username
[14:19] <brontoeee> Pp|quish, there is simple backup suite in repos ...., lack some proper docs, but with some guess work it may do it
[14:19] <habeous> deja dup
[14:19] <Pp|quish> ok thanks all
[14:19] <habeous> ubuntu one
[14:19] <bazhang> Pp|quish, check the link I just sent you
[14:19] <lgn12> Ubuntu one is a great way to backup
[14:19] <Pp|quish> checking right now :)
[14:20] <habeous> i love it
[14:20] <mun> hi
[14:20] <mun> it seems that i'm missing the hiddev kernel driver, does anyone know where i can install it
[14:20] <habeous> hey mun
[14:20] <habeous> did you recompile?
[14:21] <GeekMan> is it possible to compensate your drivers on a linux machine with windows drivers (and what would this be called so i can google it)
[14:21] <habeous> oh, that driver wrapper
[14:21] <nilsma_> ubuntu 10.04, added launcher to panel, i want that application to laucn maximized, what do i append in the command of that launcher in order to make, say chromium, launch maximized?
[14:21] <habeous> linux driver wrapper?
[14:21] <bazhang> GeekMan, ndiswrapper but its a last resort, and not much used now
[14:21] <kosnick1> hello, i just found out that my pc is sending (more than) 50 KiB/s somewhre, is there any way to check where?
[14:21] <bazhang> GeekMan, whats the card you need a driver for
[14:21] <mun> habeous, recompile? hmm don't think so.
[14:22] <habeous> okay, then you definately didn't.... lol
[14:22] <apocalyptiq> what is difference between Ubuntu and OpenSuse?
[14:22] <GeekMan> its on a laptop for my sound card
[14:22] <mun> habeous, should i?
[14:22] <habeous> NO.
[14:22] <habeous> nonono
[14:22] <bazhang> apocalyptiq, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic as that is outside this channels scope
[14:22] <nilsma_> ubuntu 10.04, added launcher to panel, i want that application to laucn maximized, what do i append in the command of that launcher in order to make, say chromium, launch maximized?
[14:23] <habeous> it's big and compilcated and really hard
[14:23] <GeekMan> i run a 5.1 sound system on the machine but it only plays the 4
[14:23] <bazhang> GeekMan, you need a driver for which device. please be specific
[14:23] <mun> habeous, ok. so is the hiddev driver an external one?
[14:24] <habeous> mun, i'm googling now
[14:24] <habeous> win! http://www.wetlogic.net/hiddev/
[14:24] <kosnick1> hello , my pc is sending (more than) 50 KiB/s somewhere,is there any way to see where ? any way to stop it?
[14:25] <GeekMan> alsa doesnt recognize that my sound card plays out to 5 speakers
[14:25] <GeekMan> h/o
[14:25] <wwwyzzerdd> my power manager has stopped detecting power state. when unplugging i have to go to system > preferences > power management to detect plugged/unplugged. what's going on?
[14:25] <mun> habeous, so it shouldn't come as part of the default set of drivers?
[14:25] <habeous> don't think so
[14:25] <GeekMan> ... i need find a way to map alsa to my woofe
[14:25] <GeekMan> r
[14:25] <bazhang> GeekMan, you have pavucontrol and padevchooser installed?
[14:25] <ershad> Hello, I'm trying to share internet from my pc (from pp0) to another (via eth0). I'm now following some steps I saw in forum, and among these is a command 'service iptables save' , but it doesn't  work here(10.10). please help
[14:25] <mun> i'll give it a try
[14:25] <mun> thanks
[14:25] <habeous> hang on
[14:26] <GeekMan> no
[14:26] <GeekMan> idk
[14:26] <bazhang> !ics | ershad please have a read
[14:26] <nilsma_> ubuntu 10.04, added launcher to panel, i want that application to laucn maximized, what do i append in the command of that launcher in order to make, say chromium, launch maximized?
[14:26] <GeekMan> what do they do
[14:26] <bazhang> GeekMan, then check the package manager and install them
[14:26] <GeekMan> k
[14:26] <davejb> can anyone explain difference between primary and logical partition? and should / be mounted to the primary partition?
[14:26] <habeous> primary is traditional
[14:27] <mun> habeous, do you know how i can check the kernel version?  uname -a gives me 2.6.35-22-generic so is my kernel 2.6.35-22?
[14:27] <erUSUL> davejb: a logical partition only can be cretaed inside a extended partition
[14:27] <habeous> logial partitions allow you to get around the 4 partition limit
[14:27] <iamrks> kosnick1, wireshark or netstat maybe
[14:27] <habeous> mun, that is your kernel version
[14:27] <erUSUL> mun: it is; 2.6.35 abi version 22
[14:27] <mun> i see
[14:28] <kosnick1> iamrks : have checked wireshark but it gives me only a connection to another pc which i use for remote connection to first one
[14:28] <habeous> davejb: it doesn't matter. it all works the same.
[14:28] <davejb> erUSUL: i have a 80GB SSD. I'm told use 50GB for /home 256MB for /boot and rest for what /  ?
[14:28] <ershad> bazhang: Thanks
[14:28] <mongy> nilsma_, you could use ccsm to make it do what you want.
[14:28] <erUSUL> habeous: in a msdos partition table you can only have four primary partitions one of them can be an extended partition instead and contain up to 64 logical ones
[14:29] <habeous> ersul: isn't that what I said? Or did i just babble?
[14:29] <erUSUL> davejb: any spaecial reason to want a separated boot partition?
[14:29] <davejb> using the 10.10 install how should i partition my 80GB SSD drive (assuming i want no swap and only keep around 3 or 4 kernal images)?
[14:29] <GeekMan> ok do i need to do somthing like restart or tell the computer to use pulse now
[14:29] <lgn12> What's the difference between MSDos partition table and GUiD partition table
[14:29] <davejb> erUSUL: I assumed it would be more effecient?
[14:29] <erUSUL> habeous: was not reading what you said. is repetition that bad?
[14:30] <bazhang> GeekMan, put them in the panel and configure pulseaudio with them
[14:30] <habeous> ersul: no, i just have'nt finished my tea yet, i'm know to babble in the morning
[14:30] <erUSUL> davejb: on a desktop machine i do not see the point just do a ~10 GiB root / and the rest for home
[14:30] <erUSUL> imho
[14:30] <bazhang> habeous, tab complete please   eru<tab>
[14:30] <habeous> okay
[14:30] <nilsma_> mongy, i just want to add something to "/usr/bin/chromium-browser" to make it start maximized ... like, "/usr/bin/chromium-browser --maximized" or somethinbg
[14:30] <davejb> erUSUL: what goes into the root?
[14:31] <davejb> erUSUL: everybody seems to come up with different figures
[14:31] <erUSUL> davejb: everything except users files if home is separated
[14:31] <mongy> nilsma_, does it not remember itself?
[14:31] <lgn12> davejb: You want a separate /home if you née to reinstall
[14:31] <davejb> erUSUL: im likely to be installed mostly web development apps and editors etc, so how big should be enough for root ?
[14:31] <mongy> nilsma_, personally I would just use ccsm and add a rule for it in place windows plugin, set to maximise
[14:31] <erUSUL> davejb: well becouse it can depend on how much software you install or if for example you use databases or webservers that hold data in /var/
[14:32] <nilsma_> mongy, dunno, i guess it remembers to always start not-maximized :s
[14:32] <novitololo> mneptok: I'm back.  I don't understand this operation that you told me: ''novitololo: i would add anyone that needs to edit and change web content to a special group ("web" will work). then chown and chmod tyhe webroot to web:www-data 644''
[14:32] <davejb> erUSUL: so will /var count towards the root stuff
[14:32] <nilsma_> mongy, oki, thanks for the tip, i will look into the ccsm option :)
[14:32] <mongy> nilsma_, I have a few progs set there to open at specific points on screen, and centered
[14:32] <gebbione> hello folks ... i have a kernel problem with a full description on the ubuntu forum - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10408674#post10408674 - please take a look and reply or PM me here if you can help
[14:32] <habeous> davejb: i'd make the swap, then split the rest between the home and the root.
[14:32] <erUSUL> davejb: yes; unless you use a separate /var/ partition
[14:33] <davejb> im told dont use swap for SSD
[14:33] <davejb> on an SSD is their a benefit to keep the /boot separate to /
[14:33] <brontoeee> davejb, how much space will you dedicate?
[14:33] <dtcrshr> how do i change kde login screen?
[14:33] <bazhang> dtcrshr, ask in #kubuntu ?
[14:34] <dtcrshr> just done that
[14:34] <davejb> brontoeee: im not sure. i was considering have 256mb for /boot and not sure how much for /  and the rest /home
[14:34] <davejb> brontoeee: suggestions welcome for web-development machine
[14:34] <brontoeee> davejb, and you have 80 gigs?
[14:34] <nilsma_> mongy, ya, that might be something i can make a use of in the future - but i was hoping for a simple command option to add to the launcher hehe
[14:34] <davejb> brontoeee: 80GB x25-m solid state disk
[14:35] <davejb> brontoeee: later I can buy a storage HD for media and downloads
[14:35] <davejb> brontoeee: i want a smooth desktop experience
[14:36] <mongy> nilsma_, well it takes like 10 seconds.
[14:36] <nilsma_> mongy, mm, anything is easy once you know how to do it
[14:36] <kosnick1> my pc sedns 50 KiB/s somewhere, even behind ufw, any chance i can see where those are going, and how to stop them? *ufw is enabled , "deny incoming traffic", but a have set a new rule for 5900 -allow - anywhere , so i can check it remotely
[14:36] <davejb> assuming i divide into 3 pieces. root, home and boot.  question is how much for root parition?
[14:36] <mongy> nilsma_, I dont really know what you would get out of using the panel instead....
[14:36] <novitololo> brontoeee: I don't have clear the /var/www permission setting :).  The owner, before I did anything was root:root, why www-data is involved here?
[14:37] <brontoeee> davejb, why separated /boot point?
[14:37] <lgn12> davejb: / probably 10-15gb
[14:37] <brontoeee> novitololo, the apache and friends (php) will run under www-data usually
[14:37] <romeo> #how can i start kannel?
[14:37] <nilsma_> mongy, add launcher, set command option "whichever program i want --maximized" would be a lot easier than installing ccsm and setting fixed windows there - not to mention it requires me to install ccsm in the first place :)
[14:37] <davejb> brontoeee: this was suggested by psycho_oreos
[14:38] <davejb> brontoeee: i assumed it was because those kernal images wouldn't move around much
[14:38] <novitololo> yes, but what I want to is write files to /var/www, that's why I created a group ('web') with permissions for the folder.  But you recommend doing this: ': a . chown /var/www to www-data user , b. add your user to www-data group'.  Why?
[14:38] <aks> kosnick1: maybe wireshark or netstat - Hello, is this thing working?
[14:39] <mun> does anyone know how i can install ubuntulooks? I keep getting a warning saying "Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "ubuntulooks","
[14:39] <bazhang> mun, got a link?
[14:39] <lgn12> davejb: I would have / at 10-15gb, /home for rest
[14:39] <brontoeee> novitololo, so you can actually write to /var/www ?
[14:39] <psycho_oreos> davejb, not quite, 256MB for /boot 60GB for /home and the rest for / which leaves around 19-20GB
[14:39] <mun> bazhang, a link to what?
[14:39] <bazhang> mun, ubuntulooks
[14:39] <kosnick1> aks : i used wireshark but i can not see any strange activity there, i am not familar with netstat
[14:39] <novitololo> Right now I can, because my user is in 'web' group, and this group has permissions for the /var/www
[14:40] <novitololo> what I don't get is why would we put www-data group in the middle
[14:40] <brontoeee> psycho_oreos, davejb yes, or 30 gigs for /, since /var/www is there ...
[14:40] <davejb> psycho_oreos: i think i have to choose / root partion as primary partition and let /home take what's left
[14:40] <mun> bazhang, no, but do i need the theme or the engine?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:41] <sercan> How to install Ubuntu version of unity
[14:41] <brontoeee> novitololo, just one way of doing it, your way seems to be working as well
[14:41] <davejb> brontoeee: so 2 to 3 8th's of the disk for root (OS) and the rest for /home files. and possibly /boot which is a nibble anyway
[14:41] <novitololo> but will I have problems with the apache?
[14:41] <davejb> psycho_oreos: is there a benefit to having a separate /boot area?
[14:41] <sercan> What is also now built my version ..
[14:41] <GeekMan> its still doing the same thing playing through 4 speakers not 5
[14:41] <habeous> sercan: there's a repository for it
[14:41] <brontoeee> novitololo, it will tell you
[14:41] <psycho_oreos> davejb, it really doesn't matter which takes primary partition, as long as you don't have more than three iirc primary partitions, that would not give you any easy future expansions when it comes to extended partitions and therefore logical partitions
[14:42] <novitololo> mmm
[14:42] <novitololo> because mneptok told me this ''mneptok: novitololo: sure, but i would use the existing group. the way you have things now, your webroot wil have to be world-readable in order for Apache to serve the pages''
[14:42] <GeekMan> i think i have to manually make a path to the subwoofer :(
[14:42] <brontoeee> davejb, thats a good enough guess imho
[14:42] <davejb> psycho_oreos: so I can define the partions in any order?
[14:43] <sercan> I did the upgrade but nothing changed as I installed the new Ubuntu yu
[14:43] <brontoeee> novitololo, i dont understand that part
[14:43] <davejb> psycho_oreos: say 30GB root, then 256mb /boot and allocate the rest to user space
[14:43] <jrib> novitololo: you shouldn't have web data owned by www-data and writable by www-data unless you specifically want apache to be able to write to those files
[14:43] <psycho_oreos> davejb, yes, for instance /boot can be used as ext2 which is faster than for example ext4 (though one is really talking about minimal boost). Apart from that ext2 tends to go easier a bit on SSD or flash based devices
[14:43] <Bo> Hello, I need some help.
[14:43] <sercan> but did not change anything as I did the upgrade I installed the new ubuntu
[14:43] <novitololo> jrib: ok then I will leave it the way I have it. A group called 'web' can write into that folder.  Thanks
[14:43] <bazhang> Guest3722, then ask
[14:44] <davejb> psycho_oreos: will there be issues with mixing and matching ext2 and ext4?
[14:44] <sercan> I installed a new upgrade to Ubuntu but I did not change anything
[14:44] <Diabeetus> I'm getting the "No repository found" in eclipse while trying to install plugins
[14:44] <GeekMan> i was thinking since i have a the original windows drivers to this computers sound card i could use it to find the path for the sub if it even works that way i plan to get a major in computer electronic engineering soon
[14:44] <psycho_oreos> davejb, its really up to you, but I wouldn't go less than 10GB for rootfs unless you have it set for specific purpose, 30GB is plenty for lots of messing around
[14:44] <sercan> log on from Turkey
[14:44] <psycho_oreos> davejb, not by much but again you can still use /boot as ext4 if needed be
[14:44] <davejb> psycho_oreos: ok, sounds good. I'll go with 30GB as I will have web files in /var
[14:45] <davejb> psycho_oreos: final check.. it doesn't matter which is the primary /boot or /
[14:45] <elgh> I just installed Diablo 2 in Ubuntu, which worked good. But when I try to install the Expansion Set, Ubuntu asks me of the disc... Why is that?
[14:45] <mun> does anyone know where i acn find the ubuntulook engine 64b?
[14:45] <psycho_oreos> davejb, yes it doesn't particularly matter these days
[14:45] <sercan> I installed Ubuntu, but new http://static.arstechnica.net/assets/2010/10/unity_ars-thumb-640xauto-17498.jpg  presented here does not look like
[14:46] <novitololo> talking about groups... Can a file belong to more than one group?
[14:46] <mun> i cant find it in synaptic
[14:46] <psycho_oreos> novitololo, no
[14:46] <davejb> psycho_oreos: people had suggested that certain partitions will get hit with lots of files and that they can be moved about the SSD to avoid deteriation
[14:46] <novitololo> ok
[14:46] <habeous> you have to add a repository, mun. let me dig up the link
[14:46] <jrib> novitololo: not with usual permissions, but you can setup and use ACLs, then yes :)
[14:46] <sercan> If you try to understand steps, addressing
[14:46] <davejb> psycho_oreos: *lots of small file writes
[14:46] <novitololo> jrib: thanks :)
[14:46] <GeekMan> hmm
[14:46] <elgh> Is there a Winechannel?
[14:46] <mongy> sercan, thats either a mock-up or what its maybe going to look like when finished
[14:46] <bazhang> elgh, #winehq
[14:46] <sadwal> Salam alleykum people
[14:46] <LjL> elgh: #winehq
[14:46] <nilsma_> ubuntu 10.04, added launcher to panel, i want that application to launch maximized, what do i append in the command of that launcher in order to make, say chromium, launch maximized?
[14:47] <erUSUL> sercan: unity interface is only used in the netbook release. desktop release uses more or less plain gnome
[14:47] <mun> habeous, thanks
[14:47] <brontoeee> jrib, thats what i'am reading as recommended for dev server, not for a production one, which makes sense, since you dont have to worry if scripts, like php will have enough permissions, am'I wrong?
[14:47] <coz_> mun,   I am not familiar with an  "ubuntu-look"  package
[14:47] <psycho_oreos> davejb, yeah but those won't be affected with the choice of either primary or logical partition. I'm sure when dealing with lots of small files, you're talking directories like /tmp, /var, and potentially /etc
[14:47] <habeous> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/unity-finally-lands-in-ubuntu-1010.html
[14:47] <deepak> hiii
[14:47] <sercan> I understand
[14:48] <jrib> brontoeee: sorry, what do you mean by "that"?
[14:48] <mongy> nilsma_, tbh, I think its application dependent...  gnome-terminal --full-screen works for gnome-terminal, not another app
[14:48] <sercan> thanks
[14:48] <davejb> psycho_oreos: so could I map those to some kind of ram file system instead of hitting the SSD
[14:48] <mongy> nilsma_, so only really if an app supports the option, I guess
[14:48] <Danskmand> Howdy :-) - I have a virtual ubuntu server that has 1 NIC connected to it. I edited the /etc/network/interfaces and ran /etc/init.d/networking stop (I get a "stop: unknown instance") and start (I get a "networking stop/waiting"). But I still see only the lo0....WHat do I need to set up more ?
[14:48] <brontoeee> jrib, /var/www owned by www-data
[14:48] <securityxxxpert_> hey anybody around that could help me out with ssh?
[14:48] <securityxxxpert_> been banging my had against the desk for a few hours now
[14:48] <sercan> Well I do not get to the desktop unity
[14:48] <mun> habeous, is that for me?
[14:48] <aeon-ltd> securityxxxpert_: we need details
[14:49] <nilsma_> mongy, very possible, i should investigate that, thanks :)
[14:49] <habeous> mun: yes
[14:49] <jrib> brontoeee: ah, well production or dev apache will run as www-data so only if you are ok with apache writing to file A should apache be able to.   So if you have something like a wiki, sure.  But for static content definitely not imo
[14:49] <securityxxxpert_> aeon-ltd: thanks for the reply.  The details include i'm trying to setup a ssh server with pub/priv key pairs authentication on a encrypted home directory
[14:49] <Danskmand> I did backup and restore the vm....maybe I need to change the mac-address of the NIC ?
[14:49] <sercan> Is there among you who know turkish
[14:49] <psycho_oreos> davejb, yes and no, because that somewhat requires slightly advanced setup when you want to use a portion of your RAM as a filesystem
[14:49] <securityxxxpert_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10408610
[14:49] <Danskmand> Where can I check this ?
[14:49] <securityxxxpert_> that's the gist of it ^
[14:49] <mun> habeous, but that's unity
[14:49] <bazhang> !tr | sercan
[14:50] <novitololo> brontoeee: what would be de difference for a production server?
[14:50] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: why are you confused by that prompt?
[14:50] <habeous> mun: sorry, got you confused with sercan
[14:50] <davejb> psycho_oreos: perhaps im being over caucious about these SSD... im sure they will last a few years before deterioating (for everyday use like desktop apps)
[14:50] <mun> habeous, ah ok
[14:50] <gebbione> hello folks ... i have a kernel problem with a full description on the ubuntu forum - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10408674#post10408674 - please take a look and reply or PM me here if you can help
[14:50] <brontoeee> novitololo, tightened security, only alow server+php to write to specific folder or change specific files
[14:51] <vak> Java seemed to return to Ubuntu 10.10 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/java-returns-to-ubuntu-10-10/ but I can't see it in repositories!
[14:51] <erUSUL> !java | vak
[14:51] <bazhang> vak partner repo
[14:51] <brontoeee> jrib, right
[14:51] <bazhang> !partner > vak
[14:51] <novitololo> I see
[14:51] <vak> thanks!
[14:51] <novitololo> thanks a lot for all this sharings brontoeee: and jrib:
[14:52] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: there's nothing wrong with what you are seeing, what do you expect to see instead?
[14:52] <psycho_oreos> davejb, well I don't have any SSD so I can't say for certain. Sure that one maybe overreacting to the way SSD are meant to be treated however SSDs aren't cheap and its best for one to be better cautious than lax :)
[14:52] <elgh> I tried to install Diablo 2 on my Ubuntu 10.10, which worked fine. Now I tried to install Expansion Set, but my computer keeps asking about the CD... Why?
[14:53] <bazhang> elgh, did you check the appdb? and ask in #winehq ?
[14:53] <davejb> psycho_oreos: as long as my data is safe, i can live with the loss of money
[14:53] <mun> how do i stop using the ubuntulooks engine?
[14:53] <Diverdude> Are there any good alternatives to the built in remote Desktop functionality in Ubuntu?. I cannot use the built in because it is extremely laggy. I have lowered color depth to 8 bit colors. I am running it from my laptop to my media center via LAN where laptop is connected via wireless and mediacenter via wire. I have also set system->Pref->Appearnce->Visual Effects to none on the mediabox (the one which is being remote controlled) and als
[14:53] <Diverdude> o does not help...So i think the software is the problem. Any suggestions for alternatives?
[14:53] <elgh> bazhang, Worked fine in Ubuntu 10.04.
[14:53] <jrib> Diverdude: ssh :)  (or try freenx)
[14:54] <bazhang> elgh, so a no to my question?
[14:54] <jrib> !vnc > Diverdude
[14:54] <jrib> !freenx > Diverdude
[14:54] <psycho_oreos> davejb, well if that's a concern then I consider something like a RAID setup (and no not RAID 0)
[14:54] <Diverdude> jrib, oh and ssh is also not an option
[14:54] <brontoeee> Diverdude, i'am using nomachine from time to time, its not OS thought and as such likely unsupported
[14:54] <elgh> bazhang, Yes, a no to your question. No new since 10.04 in appdb.
[14:54] <coz_> mun,   I dont know of an  "ubuntu-looks"  engine... what exactly are you wanting to change?  what "appearance"  is it that you dont like?
[14:54] <bazhang> elgh, no idea then, most app specific is in #winehq .
[14:55] <elgh> bazhang, Diablo worked fine to install, that's weird.
[14:55] <davejb> psycho_oreos: good idea
[14:55] <Diverdude> jrib, it has to be so that i can see on the screen attached to the mediacenter what the person remote controlling it is doing
[14:55] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: are you there?...
[14:56] <mun> coz_, well i'm just running my old script which shows a popup window, but now it complaisn that "Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "ubuntulooks","
[14:56] <jrib> Diverdude: right so try the other vnc options that ubottu lists and freenx and see if any of them is better
[14:56] <Diverdude> jrib, basically i need it start movies and music and browse internet on media center via my laptop and have it displayed on TV
[14:56] <coz_> mun,   hold on let me check
[14:56] <mun> coz_, thanks
[14:57] <coz_> mun,  open synaptic  and  hit search and type in   ubuntulooks ,,,what comes up is th e    gtk2-engines-murrine,,,, maybe try   re-installing that
[14:57] <brontoeee> uhu, freenx is gpl version of nomachine nx i guess?
[14:57] <jrib> brontoeee: something like that, I'm not sure of the relation
[14:58] <mun> coz_, right. ok
[14:58] <mun> coz_, but i already have it installed
[14:58] <securityxxxpert_> jrib: yeah sorry man, relationship issues atm
[14:58] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: ok, did you see my questions?
[14:59] <securityxxxpert_> jrib: anyways that's not right.  It should only ask for the private key
[14:59] <sacarlson> Diverdude: remember you can run X apps in ssh,  but I imagine that might even be worse
[14:59] <coz_> mun,  I understand hold on I am reading a few articles on this
[14:59] <securityxxxpert_> I want password auth off
[14:59] <mun> coz_, right. thanks
[14:59] <jacekowski> securityxxxpert_: hl
[14:59] <securityxxxpert_> I want it to authenticate with only the private key generated for the pair
[14:59] <gebbione> hello folks ... i have a kernel problem with a full description on the ubuntu forum - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10408674#post10408674 - please take a look and reply or PM me here if you can help
[14:59] <jacekowski> securityxxxpert_: you're the expert
[14:59] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: 1) are you entering the correct password for your private key 2) you specified a location other than ~/.ssh/authorized_keys for your authorized_keys in your sshd_config, are you using /etc/ssh/keys/se.../authorized_keys?
[14:59] <bazhang> jacekowski, thats not needed
[15:00] <coz_> mun,     http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=43255      however I believe ubuntulooks has been integrated into  gtk2-engines
[15:00] <Encry9> Hi, How do you (ADD) stuff to a 7z archive with command line? So far I'm only able to replace the archive with a new one: 7za a file1.7z /home/sean/file1
[15:00] <mun> coz_, unfortunately this one's 32b
[15:00] <securityxxxpert_> jrib:  1. Yes.  2. I have it reflected in the config file
[15:00] <mun> coz_, 'cos i've tried it and it complains about EFCLAS
[15:00] <ishaq> q
[15:00] <coz_> mun,   mm hold on
[15:01] <securityxxxpert_> jacekowski: sexpert ;)
[15:01] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: erm, what do you mean "I have it reflected in the config file"?  Your post says "/home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys" and your config says "/etc/ssh/keys/securityxxxpert/authorized_keys
[15:01] <bullgard> Whats the use of /var/log/gmd:0.log?
[15:01] <securityxxxpert_> jrib: let me look it over man.  Bad day. May of had a typo
[15:02] <Gnea> Encry9: typing 7z by itself seems to provide the answer
[15:02] <coz_> mun,   reopen synaptic   hit "Search"   type in        gtk2-engines   then right click that package   and select "Mark for reinstallation"
[15:02] <securityxxxpert_> jrib: my post is a typo.  I meant i have the pub key file in /etc/ssh/keyfiles/securityxxxpert/authorized_keys
[15:02] <brontoeee> Encry9, i think the archive has to be 1st built in a proper way (and thats not default), however i cant recall any specific command lines or even terminology
[15:02] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: restart ssh
[15:03] <Gnea> brontoeee: that's why if you type 7z and press enter, it will tell you what's what
[15:03] <mun> coz_, nope. no difference.
[15:03] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: and the path you just posted is also not what you have in your config file
[15:03] <brontoeee> Gnea, right, sorry i did not see your answer
[15:03] <coz_> mun,   the ubuntulooks engine is part of the gtk2-engines package... restart x  and see if it has changed
[15:03] <Diverdude> sacarlson, yeah i know, but i need to have shared screen
[15:03] <mun> coz_, ok
[15:04] <securityxxxpert_> jrib: look at the forum post again. it's all correct now
[15:04] <mun> coz_, thanks. brb
[15:04] <Diverdude> sacarlson, so ssh -X is no good
[15:04] <securityxxxpert_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10408610
[15:04] <securityxxxpert_> let me restart the ssh server
[15:04] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: no it's not, see what I just told you
[15:04] <Gnea> brontoeee: no worries, just seems odd when peuple overlook the obvious
[15:05] <securityxxxpert_> jrib: fuck me your right
[15:05] <gpc> !language | securityxxxpert_
[15:05] <securityxxxpert_> well..my bad
[15:05] <mun> coz_, hi again. nope still the same...
[15:05] <davejb> psycho_oreos: what was the primary reason for using ext2 and not ext4 for the /boot parition please?
[15:06] <Encry9> Gnea: ok, you're right I overlooked that!
[15:06] <coz_> mun,  ,,,  mmm  I know that the ubuntulooks engine is part of the gtk2-engines package...not sure what the issue is ,,,did you install another theme just before this occurred?
[15:06] <psycho_oreos> davejb, performance and may treat SSD devices better
[15:06] <securityxxxpert_> jrib: I just check everything and it all points to /etc/ssh/keys/securityxxxpert/authorized_keys
[15:07] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: ok, now restart the server and verify it does not accept your password
[15:07] <mun> coz_, well, if i go to appearence and i get a similar warning when i choose my current theme.
[15:07] <davejb> psycho_oreos: ok... my final plan is 30GB / for root (ext4) primary.  250Mb for /boot (ext2) logical. the rest (ext4) for /home...  sound like a good plan?
[15:07] <elgh> What is the path to my CDROM if I want to access it in Terminal?
[15:08] <coz_> mun,   open a terminal    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:08] <jrib> elgh: /cdrom or /media/cdrom? or /dev/cdrom?
[15:08] <mun> coz_, nothing needs to be upgraded except for my browser.
[15:09] <psycho_oreos> I personally would prefer putting /boot as primary and / as logical.. also making /boot the very first partition is somewhat a little more ideal. Again its up to you
[15:09] <securityxxxpert_> jrib:  restarted everything.  It asked for the keyfile password, then after I entered that it asked for a regular password
[15:09] <elgh> jrib, Dunno ^
[15:09] <jrib> elgh: umm, try them?
[15:09] <coz_> mun,   then I am puzzled.... go to google   use this search string      ubuntu  cannot find   ubuntulooks engine      see what comes up  :)
[15:09] <elgh> Can only access /media/cdrom... But can't see any files. :S
[15:09] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: try connecting again with "ssh -vvv", pastebin the output as well as /var/log/auth.log from the server
[15:09] <mun> coz_, yeah i am. but most people seem to have got it fixed using the 32b.
[15:10] <mun> unfortunately i'm on 64b
[15:10] <jrib> elgh: do you mean the directory is empty or you do not have permissions?
[15:10] <coz_> mun,   are you sure  that the themes  are  dependent on the architecture?   I would think it wouldnt matter
[15:10] <elgh> It appears empty.
[15:10] <jrib> elgh: what were you expecting to see?
[15:10] <jrib> !who | elgh
[15:11] <wolter> my right click menu does not have a shadow in the desktop, but does everywhere else, can somebody help me? I
[15:11] <wolter> I'm using compiz
[15:11] <mun> coz_, the theme is fine with 32b. but when i run my script which gives a popup, it says wrong ELFCLASS32
[15:12] <securityxxxpert_> jrib:  ok man one sec
[15:12] <coz_> mun,   ah ok  then you might have to edit the script perhaps   not sure... though
[15:13] <mun> coz_, hmm ok then. thanks
[15:16] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: you also know you're attempting to connect as "user1" not "securityxxpert" right?
[15:16] <novitololo> see u later
[15:16] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: or actually, "user"
[15:18] <securityxxxpert_> jrib:  pastebin.com/UMRp1PCU
[15:18] <securityxxxpert_> jrib:  I was actually trying to mask the user name of the identity file to be honest..everything is how it should be in the config file
[15:18] <ishaq> \
[15:18] <securityxxxpert_> i'm going to pastebin the server one you requested now
[15:19] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: I don't understand... you connected successfully now, no?
[15:19] <davejb> psycho_oreos: i went with your suggestions.  when final question, for the /home setup if I select "Location for the new partition: End" will it make any difference to the way the data is written, or should I just select "Beginning" and let it eat forwards across the disk?
[15:19] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: oh, you entered your password?
[15:19] <securityxxxpert_> yes..but what i'm not getting is when I have password authentication off.   why is it not letting me just login to my ssh server with the private keys password
[15:20] <securityxxxpert_> jrib: basically it's asking for two sets of credentials.  My private key password, and my User password
[15:20] <securityxxxpert_> jrib: this wouldn't be a issue if it required a private key but it doesn't, because I had a buddy ssh to my box and he got in with just my usernames password
[15:21] <securityxxxpert_> jrib: http://pastebin.com/Jrg6Rc6V
[15:22] <bullgard> Whats the use of /var/log/gmd:0.log?
[15:24]  * azidhaka »» Music: (Playing) «» Topradio «» 15:11/00:00 ««
[15:24] <jrib> azidhaka: disable that please
[15:24] <azidhaka> oops
[15:24] <nmvictor> How does one fix compiz and java apps like netbeans, sometimes the menus and dialog boxes in netbeans are blank. Is their fix?
[15:24] <davejb> anyone, should the last parition (using up the remaider of the disk) be specified as "Location beginning" or "Location end", or does it even matter?
[15:24] <azidhaka> sorry, wrong button
[15:24] <AbhiJit> davejb, it doesnt matter
[15:24] <AbhiJit> davejb, mar as start at end
[15:24] <AbhiJit> no
[15:25] <AbhiJit> davejb, i mean start at beginning
[15:25] <davejb> ok, its done.. im going for it... thanks for everybody on educating me about partitions!
[15:25] <davejb> Install now! whooohooo
[15:26] <silvering> hi guys.. i got problem with ubuntu
[15:26] <AbhiJit> silvering, ask
[15:26] <nmvictor> silvering, name it.
[15:26] <c3l> can I get all sound to work through jack easily?
[15:26] <silvering> it sees correct my 2 SATA drives
[15:27] <silvering> but when i download torrent with more than 1 mb/s the hole pc became unstable and freezes
[15:27] <silvering> ive got that problem with winxp too, but theres a via comboRAID drivers for xp, and when i install them the problem is solved
[15:28] <silvering> the 2 drives are not in RAID.. in the bios i make them to be seen as PATA with the non-RAID function
[15:28] <silvering> and my ubuntu is installed on third drive, wich is PATA
[15:28] <silvering> any ideas?
[15:28] <paq7512> <silvering how much ram do you have?
[15:29] <silvering> 2x256 ddr400 working on 166 mhz
[15:29] <silvering> well.. they become ddr333 i think :)
[15:29] <Guest30829> I'm new to here,It seems that I miss the road,will you tell me where I am
[15:29] <paq7512> has it ever worked? how big is your swap file?
[15:30] <silvering> yes, it was working fine in winxp after install via comboRAID drivers
[15:30] <silvering> my swap is around 500 megs
[15:30] <oCean> Guest30829: this is ubuntu technical support
[15:31] <cal_> after upgrading to 10.10, X randomly crashes back to the login screen. however, when running just the live CD it is very stable. could it be because I installed 64-bit, and the liveCD runs on 32bit?
[15:31] <delkin> I'm having some trouble with my camera: it is up side down. Can anyone help me with this?
[15:31] <silvering> cal_ no i think
[15:32] <Jonta> delkin: Inbuilt into which laptop?
[15:32] <Anarcheist> I think I ruined my PC, could someone help?
[15:32] <silvering> Anarcheist, shoot
[15:32] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: I don't see the server rejecting any key, do  you?
[15:32] <cal_> silvering: why does the 64bit ubuntu cd run in 32bit mode when runing in live mode?
[15:32] <Anarcheist> I'm not exactly a computer pro. I had copied Ubuntu netbook on to a USB with the program given at Ubuntu.com. I plugged it in and booted it via F12 on my Alienware M17x and I chose to try it. When I selected to try it, it wouldn't work at all and I sat there for about an hour. I turned the laptop off, and now it says I'm "Missing" the OS. Which means my Windows 7 is gone. My friend had told me to do something with Gparted, but it d
[15:32] <induz> is there any program which can get the pictures from iPod 1st gen to my computer???
[15:33] <cal_> at least.. it says i386 instead of amd64 with uname
[15:33] <mattc__> Recent switcher to Ubuntu, going great. 2 issues. First one is my intel Ethernet connection doesnt always connect (Intel 82578DC Gigabit) so ive resorted to using wireless for now. but i have no idea how to go about fixing this. Also the bootloader shows 2 copies of ubuntu.
[15:33] <silvering> cal_ whats ur pc.. i mean did ur CPU support 63 bits?
[15:33] <silvering> 64*
[15:33] <induz> i have banshee and Rythambox
[15:33] <cal_> silvering: lol, yes. i highly doubt 64 bit installw ould work if my cpu did not support it ;)
[15:33] <KM0201> induz: pretty sure gtkpod does
[15:34] <Half_Twit> How do I get rid of the docky Anchor button on Docky 2.0.7 , The online instructions are for the older versions
[15:34] <delkin> Jonta, it's an Asus n61. I also know that i have a UVC capable camera
[15:34] <DexterF> hi
[15:34] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: or is that what's happening at 09:17:05 ?
[15:34] <silvering> it works, its installing, but after that its running in 32bits.. i tested that on my old machine cal_
[15:34] <DexterF> fusermount: option allow_other only allowed if 'user_allow_other' is set in /etc/fuse.conf     <-- that option is set and anpohter sshfs mount point mounts fine, what the heck is wrong there?
[15:34] <_AV_> DexterF: Hi.
[15:35] <delkin> Jonta, I tried to do this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=838210   , but the svn source doesnt seem to be up anymore... :S
[15:35] <cal_> Linux ubuntu 2.6.35-24-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 02:41:37 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:35] <silvering> Anarcheist,  u have ruined the mbr
[15:35] <silvering> you need to restore it
[15:35] <cal_> says 64
[15:35] <Anarcheist> How do I do that?
[15:36] <_AV_> My HP w17e configuration in Ubuntu 9.10 is screwed up. I'm trying to restore it, to it's native resolution, but I can't. Help please.
[15:36] <induz> KM0201, I am installing gtkpod..lets see if that works
[15:36] <silvering> Anarcheist, im not sure, tru searching in google "fix mbr windows 7"
[15:36] <silvering> if ur with win7
[15:36] <KM0201> induz: i'm pretty sure it does...
[15:36] <GRUB> anyone who know how to use airserv-ng ???
[15:36] <Anarcheist> ok
[15:36] <Anarcheist> Thanks
[15:36] <silvering> cal_ try downgrading to 32 bit, and than do upgrade to 32 again
[15:36] <cor_r> can someone tell me to how to watch embedded videos, like avi etc. download works but not watching it in browser
[15:37] <eddd> hi i got problem with ubuntu 10.10 and nvidia, i cant add my resolution. s there any way to do it ?
[15:37] <silvering> cor_r u need plugin for the browser, something like vlc-mozilla, wich is for vlc player
[15:37] <madsailor> Anarcheist,  if you have the original win7 install disk boot from that and it will boot into windows recovery environment....where you have the option to restore the MBR
[15:37] <silvering> i dont think alienware provide original windows cd
[15:37] <silvering> but its an option
[15:38] <cor_r> silvering: I tried that , I tried with vlc, mplayer and totem
[15:38] <xangua> !info mozplugger | if you use firefox, no ide if it works in opera cor_r
[15:38] <xangua> mmm it only says mozilla
[15:38] <cor_r> xangua: I installed that as well nad I do use firefox
[15:38] <snimavat> kernal update released today?
[15:38] <silvering> it runs great in opera
[15:38] <silvering> i`m using it
[15:39] <snimavat> Why apt-get upgrade doesnt pick it?
[15:39] <Half_Twit> anyone use Docky?
[15:39] <snimavat> Whats the different between apt-get upgrade and update manger?
[15:39] <cor_r> external works sometimes, but I do want to watch in browser and that doenst do the trick at all
[15:39] <DexterF> solved: user not is group "fuse"
[15:39] <AbhiJit> snimavat, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:39] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: wait... you disabled passwords in sshd_config and are still getting a password prompt?  How is that possible...
[15:40] <mongy> encrypted home?
[15:40] <samski> can anyone help identifying the correct partitions for an ubuntu partition recovery from testdisk
[15:40] <silvering> snimavat the first checks sources.list for errors, the seccond do upgrade of software
[15:40] <silvering> or something like that
[15:40] <snimavat> update manager = apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade, ??
[15:40] <induz> KM0201, i have pics on my iPod and now i want those pics out from that iPOd..whenever i want to plu
[15:40] <induz> KM0201, GNOME or KDE will automatically create a mount point for the iPod but where
[15:40] <snimavat> no errors in sources.list, i never touched it
ext4? or ext3?
[15:40] <silvering> in /media
[15:41] <silvering> its always in /media
[15:41] <samski> believe ext4
[15:41] <jrib> snimavat: no?
[15:41] <snimavat> silvering
[15:41] <samski> cant remember unfortunately
[15:41] <KM0201> induz: hmm, honestly i can't really remember... i had to set up XP in vbox for something one time, so i just sync my music players through xp in vbox.
[15:41] <silvering> snimavat so whats the problem?
[15:41] <securityxxxpert_> jrib: exactly my point..i'm baffled
[15:41] <BluesKaj> induz, look in nautilus or dolphin / network
[15:41] <snimavat> whyts the difference between update manager and apt-get update
[15:41] <securityxxxpert_> jrib: it takes the key just peachy..but i'm still prompted for my user password even though its disabled in the donfig
[15:41] <bullgard> Whats the use of /var/log/gmd:0.log?
[15:41] <snimavat> update manager shows a kernal upgrade available today
[15:41] <KM0201> induz: the first gen ones, i don't beleive can be "browsed" as removable storage, you have to use either gtkpod or one of the ipod programs to do it.
[15:41] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: erm, stop ssh completely, make sure with ps, then start it again
[15:41] <SUFLEX_> When i turn the computer on after hibernating it, my previously open programs are not restored.
[15:42] <snimavat> but apt-get upgrade doesnt
[15:42] <snimavat> why ?
[15:42] <SUFLEX_> When i turn the computer on after hibernating it, my previously open programs are not restored.
[15:42] <mongy> securityxxxpert_,  using encrypted home?
[15:42] <induz> KM0201, if i synch the iPod, are my pics on that iPod going to reformate/gone??
[15:42] <silvering> snimavat, update manager is graphic tool, apt-get update is terminal command
[15:42] <silvering> or.. i cant understand what ur asking?
[15:42] <SUFLEX_> please help
[15:42] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[15:42] <snimavat> update manager shows a kernal upgrade available today
[15:42] <snimavat> but apt-get upgrade doesnt
[15:42] <snimavat> why this difference?
[15:42] <KM0201> induz: hmm thats a godo question.
[15:42] <bullgard> !hibernate | SUFLEX_
[15:43] <SUFLEX_>
[15:43] <SUFLEX_> bullgard?
[15:43] <snimavat> silvering ??
[15:43] <nimrod10> a
[15:43] <silvering> snimavat, try to search in the update manager options, i think there was an option for kernel upgrades
[15:43] <silvering> not really sure, but give it a try
[15:43] <SUFLEX_> When i turn the computer on after hibernating it, my previously open programs are not restored.
[15:43] <bullgard> !resume | SUFLEX_
[15:43] <securityxxxpert_> mongy: yes
[15:44] <snimavat> the question is why they both are different?
[15:44] <snimavat> i am not looking for option
[15:44] <KM0201> induz: this is kind of old, but it says gtkpod does pics... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103071
[15:44] <securityxxxpert_> jrib:  stop it with what command?  /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[15:44] <guntbert> !askthebot > bullgard
[15:44] <SUFLEX_> When i turn the computer on after hibernating it, my previously open programs are not restored. WHY?
[15:44] <mattc__> Latest ubuntu being very tempermental with intel gigabit 82578DC. not showing in ifconfig
[15:44] <guntbert> !repeat | SUFLEX_
[15:44] <mattc__> what steps can i take to try and make it work better
[15:45] <mongy> secretary_linux, thats probably why.. it needs the password to decrypt
[15:45] <silvering> snimavat,  because there could be restriction in the graphic update manager for showing the kernel updates
[15:45] <bullgard> SUFLEX_: Because your computer is not properly configured.
[15:45] <induz> KM0201, i connected my iPod touch 1st gen to Gtpkg...
[15:45] <snimavat> so doesnt both apt-get and update manager pick same updates
[15:45] <SUFLEX_> bullgard how to configure it
[15:45] <snimavat> i believed, they should be doing the same job
[15:45] <SUFLEX_> SUFLEX_ properly
[15:45] <SUFLEX_> bullgard
[15:46] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: that doesn't use upstart :/  You should be doing « stop ssh » or « service ssh stop ».  Now that you've used the init.d script directly though, I'm not sure.  Maybe try stopping it using both methods (stop ssh AND /etc/init.d/ssh stop), make sure all sessions are closed, check that ssh is really dead with « ps -ef | grep ssh » and then start it again using upstart: « start ssh »
[15:46] <ZykoticK9> securityxxxpert_, "sudo service ssh stop" is the modern version of your init.d command
[15:47] <guntbert> snimavat: run apt-get update before ... upgrade
[15:47] <snimavat> yep, i did tht
[15:47] <snimavat> guntbert: i always do tht  first, does any one else got a kernal upgrade today ?
[15:48] <bazhang> snimavat, its held back
[15:48] <guntbert> snimavat: then select "check" in upgrade manager, its possible you got it already
[15:48] <snimavat> held back?
[15:48] <bazhang> snimavat, yes.
[15:48] <snimavat> what is tht?
[15:48] <snimavat> held back
[15:48] <snowrichard> freenode complains about my forward and reverse dns not matcing.  I have no control over my isp's dns setup
[15:48] <mongy> I got the kernel update today...
[15:48] <bazhang> not available automatically snimavat
[15:48] <induz> KM0201, how can i setup a seperate repo for another iPod on the same GTPkg
[15:49] <delkin> I have my camera up side down. How to fix this?
[15:49] <snimavat> humn..
[15:49] <KM0201> induz: honestly, it has been so long sicne i used it, i can't remember, I think you can.
[15:49] <bazhang> snimavat, should hit your mirror by tomorrow likely
[15:49] <samski> any help with partition recovery?
[15:50] <bullgard> SUFLEX_: This is a complex matter which is not well documented. Start in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=uew&fullsearch=Text and search for "thaw" and "thawing". --  You will need to read a lot.
[15:50] <induz> KM0201,  i installed Gtpod and by mistake i connected the wrong iPod
[15:50] <KM0201> lol
[15:50] <SUFLEX_> bullgard thanks a lot
[15:50] <induz> KM0201, it says a seperate repo must be installed for different ipod
[15:51] <snimavat> What i am experiencing is : apt-get upgrade says
[15:51] <snimavat> The following packages have been kept back:
[15:51] <snimavat>   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[15:51] <snimavat> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[15:51] <snimavat> Where as update manager says updates are available for linux kernal (of size 42 mb) why both behaves differently
[15:51] <FloodBot1> snimavat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:51] <induz> KM0201,  actually Its iPod touch 1st gen
[15:51] <KM0201> induz: i'm not really familiar w/ the program... i just suggested it cuz i used it a long time ago...
[15:51] <samski> any help with testdisk partition recovery?
[15:51] <KM0201> induz: well, there's a big difference in a ipod touch first gen, and an ipod first gen... i've never owned a touch
[15:51] <jrib> snimavat: because you aren't running « sudo apt-get dist-upgrade »
[15:51] <snimavat> okey.. so only dist-upgrade picks kernal upgrade, ryt
[15:51] <bullgard> samski: Please report an error message that you have obtained.
[15:51] <induz> KM0201, i have been going around for this Ipodtouch, where can i get info??
[15:52] <samski> bullgard: errrm? grub rescue?
[15:52] <KM0201> !ipod | induz i assume you have looked here?
[15:52] <jrib> snimavat: you can read about the differences in « man apt-get ».  To search a man page for "dist-upgrade" for example, enter the man page and type: /dist-upgrade<enter>.  The 'n' and 'N' keys will scroll through hits
[15:53] <securityxxxpert_> jrib:  I did all that the process was dead, I restarted it, and its still asking me for a password
[15:53] <snimavat> okey
[15:53] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: change the port in your config and see if that gets updated
[15:53] <securityxxxpert_> ok
[15:53] <oCean> securityxxxpert_: have you seen mongy's suggestion on encrypted home? Seems valid
[15:54] <jrib> oCean, mongy: securityxxxpert_ has his authorized_keys file outside of /home
[15:54] <mongy> is the server he is trying to ssh to encrypted tho..
[15:54] <induz> KM0201,  what is USB tethering??
[15:54] <samski> bullgard: u there? want to private message?
[15:54] <securityxxxpert_> mongy:  the homedir of the server is encrypted.  The keys like jrib said are outside of hte homedir
[15:55] <[Adam|Miner]_> I am looking to install ubuntu, but how would I burn the ISO to a hard drive (from windows) then install from that?
[15:55] <mongy> I ssh to an encrypted users home, and have the same issue,I woud like it to not ask for pass, but it does.
[15:55] <mongy> yes, but,  the home is encrypted, therefore needs the password
[15:55] <bazhang> [Adam|Miner]_, why not use a usb stick and unetbootin
[15:55] <samski> any partition recovery help available? data is still there and viewable in testdisk.
[15:55] <mongy> bug or feature, idk
[15:55] <[Adam|Miner]_> All my USB sticks are very old/slow
[15:55] <securityxxxpert_> jrib:  I changed the port to 2222
[15:55] <jrib> mongy: that's not true, at least in my experience.  Just move the authorized_keys file outside of home, and it should "just work"
[15:56] <bullgard> samski: I do not answer to messages like "[16:52]	<samski>	bullgard: errrm? grub rescue?" I consider them rude.
[15:56] <securityxxxpert_> jrib:  tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:2222            <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN      -
[15:56] <KM0201> induz: i believe tethering, is when you use your ipod/iphone's WIFI access, on a portable laptop
[15:56] <xangua> then a cd [Adam|Miner]_
[15:56] <securityxxxpert_> it is working and did register
 <colon> <parenright> : "☺" U263A   # Compose : )
[15:56] <bazhang> [Adam|Miner]_, yes, burn a cd
[15:56] <Sonja> do i need the U263A in there?
[15:56] <induz> KM0201, got you
[15:56] <Sonja> for xcompose
[15:56] <ratpoison> I'm using gnome 10.10 on GNOME and I have a somewhat unusual language setup. Being a native greek who also speaks japanese, I need to be able to write all three of those languages. I'm using ibus and anthy for japanese input. This is working on Gtk+ apps, but on qt ones greek accents can't be input correctly (e.g. 'α instead of ά) and on Tk and wine they just can't be input at all. Ideas, anyone?
[15:56] <samski> bullgard: sorry if you found that rude. i don't have a particular error message
[15:56] <securityxxxpert_> mongy: answer me this then.  I did a ssh into my box password credentials only.  Didn't even need my private key
[15:56] <securityxxxpert_> that's not suppose to happen
[15:56] <ratpoison> correction: gnome = ubuntu
[15:56] <induz> my iPod touch 1st gen 8Gb is not getting reconised by GTPod
[15:57] <TopCat> i'm having weird mount issues.  in fstab, when i set the mount path /media, the directory i made appears (/media/backup).  When i set the mount path to /media/backup, a the drive mounts but says that /media/backup doesn't exist.
[15:57] <induz> I mean GTKPod
[15:57] <mongy> securityxxxpert_,  well it will work if you supply password...  what was your point..
[15:58] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: stop ssh and start it with « sudo /usr/sbin/sshd -d », try to connect, pastebin resulting output
[15:58] <mongy> as far as mine goes, if I dont give it the key and just use password it works, if I give it the key it doesnt need password.
[15:58] <securityxxxpert_> mongy:  You're missing the point.  I want to authenticat not by password but by private/pub key pairs
[15:58] <securityxxxpert_> jrib: doing that now
[15:59] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: by the way waht does this return: ls -ld /etc/ssh/keyfiles/securityxxxpert{,authorized_keys}
[15:59] <shcherbak> ratpoison: i think scim had support for japanise alphabets, but greek? no clue.
[15:59] <ratpoison> shcherbak, that's why I'm not using scim for greek
[16:00] <jrib> mongy: if you want to just use keys without passwords, add "AuthorizedKeysFile /etc/ssh/%u/authorized_keys" to your sshd_config (%u expands to username), restart ssh, voila :)
[16:00] <ratpoison> shcherbak, I just added another keyboard layout for it.
[16:00] <compdoc> TopCat, Im pretty sure the mount path has to be the actual directory in fstab (/media/backup)
[16:00] <induz> KM0201, iPodTouch is not getting recognised GTKpod
[16:00] <samski> can anyone help with partition recovery with testdisk?
[16:00] <securityxxxpert_> jrib:  that command outputs securityxxxpert@DarkAbyss:~$ ls -ld /etc/ssh/keys/securityxxxpert/{authorized_keys}
[16:00] <securityxxxpert_> ls: cannot access /etc/ssh/keys/securityxxxpert/{authorized_keys}: No such file or directory
[16:00] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: you forgot a comma
[16:01] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: and I forgot a '/'...
[16:01] <KM0201> induz: thats not really surprising... i recommended it when you told me you had an ipod first gen
[16:01] <securityxxxpert_> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2011-01-29 07:33 /etc/ssh/keys/securityxxxpert/
[16:01] <securityxxxpert_> drwx------ 2 root root 4096 2011-01-29 09:31 /etc/ssh/keys/securityxxxpert/authorized_keys
[16:01] <TopCat> when i change it in fstab to /media/backup it mounts the drive and shows up twices in natuluis
[16:01] <TopCat> Nautilus*
[16:01] <TopCat> one as 500 GB filesystem and one as backup
[16:02] <compdoc> hmm, not familure with Nautilus
[16:02] <shcherbak> ratpoison: well, I would combine dvorak with xbindkeys, but it means to design layout from scratch (with few languages it does make sens)
[16:02] <TopCat> compdoc: and get Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:  mount: mount point /media/backup does not exist
[16:02] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: hmm, chmod 644 /etc/ssh/keys/securityxxxpert/authorized_keys; chown securityxxxpert: /etc/ssh/keys/securityxxxpert/authorized_keys
[16:02] <ratpoison> shcherbak, and where would I find info on how to do this the "right" way?
[16:03] <compdoc> Nautilus is just the file manager for gnome?
[16:03] <mattc__> going to ask a question in the forums, would problems with eth0 detection be a hardware or a software problem?
[16:03] <TopCat> compdoc:  fstab line:  UUID=bb0d0a82-3928-48cc-8689-36d6424c53c7 /media/backup               ext4    rw,exec,auto,users 0      0
[16:03] <TopCat> compdoc:  yes
[16:03] <induz> KM0201, I am sorry for miscommunication...I have iPod and Ipod touch but I want the pics out from my iPodtouch
[16:03] <KM0201> induz: yeah, i'm not familair at all w/ the ipod touch
[16:03] <CarlFK> apt-get install fancontrol.. how can I then turn on the cpu fan to 100%?
[16:04] <shcherbak> ratpoison: Never come across, try folks from #tmux or similar.
[16:04] <compdoc> TopCat, Im suspecting the 'exec,auto,users' options
[16:04] <induz> KM0201, I dont use bot much but I stupidly put the pics on that iPOdTouch
[16:04] <KM0201> induz: if your pc is powerful enough, just vbox XP, and use itunes.. :)(thats what i did for my ipod, and also for my zune)
[16:04] <shcherbak> *came*
[16:04] <securityxxxpert_> jrib: let me try to connect again
[16:04] <ratpoison> shcherbak, thnx, I'll give it a shot
[16:04] <TopCat> compdoc:  what options you suggest
[16:04] <compdoc> UUID=bb0d0a82-3928-48cc-8689-36d6424c53c7 /media/backup               ext4    defaults 0      0
[16:05] <compdoc> or rw
[16:05] <t_> czesc all
[16:05] <compdoc> defaults usually works
[16:05] <induz> KM0201, when i insert the IPODtouch to XP comp[another], iTunes asks me to synch the iPod touch, I dont want to lose those pics
[16:05] <piotrek> Piotrek
[16:05] <j0e> CarlFK: It's a BIOS setting.
[16:05] <induz> KM0201, what this synch means in layman terms
[16:05] <KM0201> induz: so set itunes for "manua syncing"
[16:05] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: change ownership of the parent directory (/etc/ssh/securityxxxpert) too
[16:05] <shcherbak> ratpoison: i ment, #monad
[16:05] <madsailor> TopCat, Does /media/backup exist...in other words did you mkdir /media/backup before trying to mount to it?
[16:05] <shcherbak> ratpoison: #xmonad
[16:06] <TopCat> compdoc:  i tried it before but may have had the other parts screwy.  i will try again.  Additionally, is there any way to stop the device to umount, then remount with new mount options besides reboot ?  rebooting is getting annoying.
[16:06] <TopCat> madsailor: yes i did create that dir
[16:06] <induz> KM0201, i dot get the manaul option to synch...but is it going to wipe my pics from that iPodTouch and gong to put the pics on that Xp comp[brothers]
[16:06] <compdoc> TopCat, umount the directory, then to remount: mount -a
[16:06] <induz> KM0201, I get the manual option
[16:07] <compdoc> that reads fstab
[16:07] <KM0201> induz: honestly, i don't know, i told you i don't use an ipod touch.
[16:07] <TopCat> madsailor: but when i use /media/backup as the mountpoint in fstab the dir "disappears"
[16:07] <KM0201> and i just use itunes to sync my gym music.
[16:07] <induz> KM0201, what manual synching is going to perfom??
[16:07] <securityxxxpert_> jrib: should I use the ls -ld command to show the permissions?
[16:07] <induz> BRB
[16:07] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: you already showed them above, it's currently owned by root
[16:08] <KM0201> manual syncing means it doesn't auto sync
[16:08] <KM0201> to whatever soruce folders you have.
[16:08] <alert> döner macht schöner
[16:08] <alert> i see everyone agrees to that fact
[16:08] <securityxxxpert_> jrib: ok I did the chmod 644 to both folders that you said
[16:08] <alert> chmod, on windows you dont need such crazy things...
[16:08] <vak> under which user should Tomcat usually run in Ubuntu? www-data?
[16:08] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: no, don't chmod 644 the folder, only the authorized_keys file
[16:08] <bazhang> alert, pardon?
[16:09] <securityxxxpert_> jrib:  well..what should I do then.  I already did a chmod 644 on that folder.  I thought that's what I was suppose do
[16:09] <TopCat> what command to see what drives are mounted ?
[16:09] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: 755
[16:09] <jrib> TopCat: mount
[16:09] <securityxxxpert_> ok changed it back
[16:09] <TopCat> madsailor: looks like the dir wasn't created...although, i KNOW i created it before
[16:10] <TopCat> weird
[16:10] <securityxxxpert_> jrib:  let me try to stop/start the server
[16:11] <TopCat> okay
[16:11] <TopCat> now i'm getting permissions problems.
[16:11] <securityxxxpert_> jrib: it's still prompting for a password
[16:11] <TopCat> this was the same problem i had when the mount point was set to just /media
[16:11] <ox3a> securityxxxpert_, hi
[16:11] <TopCat> the backup dir was present but couldn't write data to it.
[16:11] <TopCat> hold on ... let me try defaults option
[16:11] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: right, so stop ssh run it as « sudo /usr/sbin/sshd -d ».  Also, paste the output of that ls -ld command just to check the new permissions
[16:11] <securityxxxpert_> ox3a: sup?
[16:12] <securityxxxpert_> jrib: ok stand by
[16:12] <ox3a> securityxxxpert_, pm?
[16:13] <TopCat> same permission issues...
[16:13] <TopCat> with the defaults option
[16:13] <jrib> TopCat: what filesystem?
[16:13] <TopCat> ext4
[16:13] <jrib> TopCat: so set the permissions to whatever you want.
[16:14] <jrib> !permissions > TopCat
[16:14] <TopCat> word
[16:14] <securityxxxpert_> jrib:  http://pastebin.com/D4Z5MAWr
[16:14] <Guest67281> hai to every one
[16:14] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: and then when you connect?
[16:14] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: wait, why does it say port 22?
[16:15] <securityxxxpert_> jrib: I changed it back to 22
[16:15] <jrib> securityxxxpert_: ok