[01:25] <cheatr> Could someone help me with a kernel panic error (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=575894)
[01:28] <heartsblood> are there any apps in linux that use light on drives?
[01:28] <heartsblood> er wait no
[01:28] <PovAddict> I tried to download 7.10-rc using jigdo, but I get 88 missing files
[01:29] <heartsblood> lightscribe*
[01:29] <hads> 'lo all. If anyone using Kubuntu would like to confirm a bug in dolphin for me that'd be great. It's bug 152788.
[01:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 152788 in dolphin "Dolphin drag and drop targets wrong directory" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/152788
[01:29] <PovAddict> I can't find them on any mirror
[01:30] <PovAddict> but I really dont want to download the whole iso from the beginning considering I'm missing only 88 files out of a few thousand
[01:31] <PovAddict> for example pool/main/h/human-theme/human-theme_0.8_all.deb
[01:33] <cheatr> Could someone help me with a kernel panic error (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=575894)
[01:34] <lee__> what the heck is a kernel panic error?
[01:35] <PovAddict> "kernel failed when trying to panic" :P
[01:35] <cheatr> lee__ I have no idea. Just some error when I try to boot up.
[01:35] <_dan_> cheatr fix your dependency errors first
[01:36] <cheatr> _dan_: I tried doing sudo dpkg --configure -a, but it doesn't work
[01:36] <cheatr> is there anything else I can do?
[01:36] <_dan_> yeah invesitage dependency, fix em per hand
[01:36] <_dan_> after all, this is still beta for a few days :/
[01:36] <lee__> erg
[01:37] <cheatr> _dan_: Yeah, but the update caused hundreds of dependency errors. I can't fix them by hand. Is there any other way?
[01:37] <lee__> lets see waht kindof info i can dig
[01:37] <_dan_> maybe u updated at a bad time, first run apt-get update again && apt-get clean
[01:37] <_dan_> try again
[01:38] <_dan_> if that doenst work, u have t fix em by hand
[01:38] <_dan_> but
[01:38] <cheatr> _dan_: I'm running it now.
[01:38] <_dan_> du a dpkg --confiugre -a and pastebin it
[01:38] <_dan_> maybe error is somewhere else
[01:38] <cheatr> _dan_: I'll do it after the apt-get clean
[01:38] <_dan_> u need to do a dist-upgrade then
[01:39] <lee__> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-302-1 cheatr this links for you
[01:39] <cheatr> Here's the apt-get update && apt-get clean: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40661/
[01:39] <_dan_> that otput i can imagine ;) apt-get dist-upgrade and dpkg --configure will be interresting
[01:40] <_dan_> Failed to fetch http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.org/miro/linux/repositories/ubuntu/gutsy/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[01:40] <_dan_> that one might not be the optimum :/
[01:41] <_dan_> is that repoof some special app? or normal ubuntu mirror?
[01:41] <cheatr> Here's dpkg --configure -a: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40662/
[01:41] <cheatr> _dan_ that deb line is for miro. I don't know where I got it from
[01:42] <_dan_> apt-get install metacity-common for starters and paste output pls
[01:42] <cheatr> and it won't even let me run dist-upgrade. It says I have to run dpkg --configure -a
[01:42] <PovAddict> that mirror doesn't have gutsy
[01:42] <PovAddict> http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.org/miro/linux/repositories/ubuntu/
[01:42] <cheatr> root@ubuntu:/# apt-get install metacity-common
[01:42] <cheatr> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:42] <cheatr> I'll try removing the mrio line from sources.list and running apt-get update
[01:42] <_dan_> thats a bit f.... up
[01:43] <lee__> It like an over run error in windows
[01:43] <bur[n] er> cheatr: you could run the dpkg --configure it says to
[01:43] <lee__> only they use the term "panic"
[01:43] <cheatr> bur[ner] : I already tried. I posted a link to pastebin that had the output
[01:43] <_dan_> what happens uf u do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[01:44] <cheatr> _dan_: same error as trying to install metacity
[01:44] <cheatr> Just so you know, I'm running all these commands from a live cd that is chrooted to my gutsy install
[01:45] <lee__> if i am wrong some one correct me ok
[01:46] <_dan_> i wonder for example this line
[01:46] <_dan_> Package evolution is not installed.
[01:46] <_dan_> why wouldnt that be installed, u used ubuntu before?
[01:47] <cheatr> _dan_ that's impossible. I use evolution as my email client
[01:47] <_dan_> btw did u use compiz repositoys in feisty?
[01:47] <cheatr> _dan_: I tried out compiz in feisty. I probably never removed the sources.list line
[01:47] <_dan_> trevino or amaranth repos?
[01:47] <PovAddict> I tried to download 7.10-rc using jigdo, but I get 88 missing files, I can't find them on any mirror
[01:47] <PovAddict> but I really dont want to download the whole iso from the beginning considering I'm missing only 88 files out of a few thousand
[01:47] <_dan_> its being said that trevinho repos will mess on upgrade
[01:48] <borovy3488> can you guys help me with editing the time and calendar?
[01:48] <cheatr> _dan_: I have no idea what trevinho repos are
[01:48] <_dan_> can u find out which compiz repo u used?
[01:48] <borovy3488> I click to change the time properties, and it crashes the panel, but eventually shows up again. any ideas?
[01:48] <PovAddict> how can I get the iso download finished?
[01:48] <lee__> grr I hat having asthma...
[01:49] <Ch1ppy> hey, has anyone else had trouble with Firefox/Firebug?
[01:49] <PovAddict> jigdo seems to add some metadata, I tried to load the .tmp into bittorrent hoping it would redownload only missing pieces, but it said none of the pieces matched
[01:49] <lee__> ?
[01:49] <lee__> wahts the fire bug?
[01:49] <PovAddict> firebug is an addon, lee
[01:49] <Ch1ppy> Firebug, it's an extension
[01:49] <Ch1ppy> yeah
[01:49] <Vadi> Hello. If I upgrade to beta now, and when gutsy is officially released, will I need to do any more upgrades?
[01:49] <PovAddict> and it hasn't caused me any trouble btw, it just helped me solve hundreds of problems on my webpages :)
[01:49] <Ch1ppy> odd
[01:49] <lee__> hmm havnt messed with fire fox
[01:49] <PovAddict> actually...duh
[01:50] <PovAddict> I have the wrong torrent
[01:50] <Ch1ppy> Firefox wouldn't start when I updated, so I removed my settings and it started
[01:50] <Ch1ppy> then I installed firebug, restarted firefox
[01:50] <Ch1ppy> and it segfaulted
[01:50] <borovy3488> how do I edit the time settings in gutsy
[01:50] <lee__> saved for the time LiMaO helped me with it
[01:50] <Vadi> Anyone?
[01:51] <lee__> borovy3488 right click on the clock
[01:51] <billytwowilly> and software raid gurus here? I have a raid 5 array that has 4 300 GB hard drives in it and I want to replace them with 4 500 GB drives. I think I can do this with the grow command by pulling out one hard drive at a time and rebuilding the array on 300 GB partitions on the 500 GB drives, then growing the reiserfs partition, but I'm not sure how exactly to do this..
[01:51] <PovAddict> Vadi: most probably you will need to do upgrades, yeah... a few things would be fixed between beta and official release
[01:51] <_dan_> cheatr whats dpkg -l|grep evo, see if u can find the volution binary /usr/bin   this is a weird error
[01:51] <Vadi> But it won't be the same as from fiesty to gutsy, right?
[01:51] <lee__> and adjust date an time
[01:51] <lee__> or,,sync it with the net
[01:51] <PovAddict> Vadi: hell no
[01:51] <borovy3488> lee__: I do, but it crashes the panel, and restarts it. Maybe a locale problem?
[01:52] <PovAddict> just a few packages with minor fixes
[01:52] <Vadi> Right, okay. Thank you
[01:52] <borovy3488> lee___: how do I make sure there are no packages missing in my upgrade again?  Do you know?
[01:52] <lee__> Ouch,  that is out of me league
[01:53] <lee__> eh LiMAo any ideas?
[01:53] <borovy3488> lee__: could I just run the sudo upgrade command to make sure all the install packages are there?
[01:54] <lee__> borovy3488 you can try it but, I don't know if it will help..tht is the first I have heard of that..but make sure you rport the bug, the team needs to know aht
[01:54] <borovy3488> lee__: ok
[01:55] <lee__> I am running Kubntu 64 bit
[01:55] <borovy3488> lee__: what is the upgrade command again?
[01:56] <lee__> borovy3488  sudo updat-manager -d
[01:56] <lee__> that is if your running unbuntu
[01:56] <lee__> I am not sure aht it is for anything els may its the same
[01:56] <borovy3488> if I run that, will it just search for packages that I don't already have?  Yes, I'm running ubuntu
[01:57] <lee__> there sould be an I con that comes up that should say upgrade..unless you already loaded it
[01:57] <lee__> you do need to up date though to get the upgrade
[01:58] <borovy3488> lee__: ok, thanks for the help man
[01:59] <lee__> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/710rc borovy3488
[01:59] <lee__> tahts where oyu can down load the ISo
[01:59] <lee__> borovy3488 do you know if your running a 64 bit processor or not?
[02:00] <borovy3488> nope, good ole intel
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> intel is 64 bit now too..
[02:00] <PovAddict> intel makes 64bit processors too
[02:00] <lee__> I have an intel aswell, and its a 64 bit
[02:00] <borovy3488> ok, no its i386 or whatever, its one of the old one's
[02:01] <lee__> ehI have an EMT64 or something like that
[02:01] <lee__> ooh
[02:01] <lee__> oooooohhh old one lol I got ya lol
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> I think EMT64 is the same as AMD64.
[02:01] <PovAddict> 33mhz
[02:02] <lee__> I think so, all I know is Iam running it lol
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> lol
[02:02] <lee__> grpahics have been extremly stabel
[02:02] <lee__> oh wait, I  havnt maxed it out with the functions thoough in kubuntu
[02:02] <borovy3488> ok, i think you guys have been misunderstanding my question.
[02:03] <borovy3488> I am in Gutsy right now.  The only problem that I have is that my time is incorrect and it wont let me edit it.
[02:03] <borovy3488> I think I'm missing a package or something
[02:05] <borovy3488> is there a command I can run that shows me if I have missed a package during the install?
[02:05] <borovy3488> cause there were a few errors, like locale and things like that
[02:05] <borovy3488> someone on here has told me the command before but I forgot it
[02:06] <PovAddict> change the date from the command line
[02:06] <lee__> hm ok I just initiated my windows translucencely
[02:06] <PovAddict> man date
[02:07] <lee__> say hopw do we get the clock of 24 hour AKA Millitlary type time
[02:07] <lee__> in kubuntu
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> lee__: simple...right click the colck
[02:07] <borovy3488> yes, but I also want to be able to see my calendar and things as well.  I actually use that stuff, which kinda sucks
[02:07] <lee__> yeah I did that part lol
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> dateand time format
[02:07] <PovAddict> borovy3488: type 'cal' on the shell
[02:07] <PovAddict> xD
[02:08] <lee__> Oh duh is me...crosses his eyes
[02:08] <borovy3488> what will that do, PovAddict
[02:08] <orionr> anyone get desktop effects to work on a computer with an ATI card?
[02:08] <PovAddict> borovy3488: show you the calendar
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> oh... its not there..
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> orionr: yup
[02:08] <lee__> tahts wierd it didnt chage it
[02:08] <borovy3488> PovAddict: but it is wrong.
[02:08] <lee__> its still saying 17 :08
[02:08] <orionr> nosrednaekim: did you have to change anything for it to work?
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> orionr: you have to install XGL
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> and the proprietary drivers
[02:09] <defishguy> Hi.  Has anyone gotten the ipod touch to work with Gutsy yet?
[02:10] <orionr> nosrednaekim: how do i do that? do you know what page i need?
[02:10] <orionr> norednaekim: i did apt-cache search glx but idk which one i need
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> !compiz
[02:10] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:10] <borovy3488> can anyone give me the upgrade command, so I can see if I am missing any packages?
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[02:10] <jimmacdonald> borovy3488: supo apt-get upgrade
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> lee__: huh...I can't find it.
[02:11] <cheatr> _dan_: dpkg -l | grep evo does indeed show that I have evolution installed.
[02:11] <cheatr> iHR evolution                                  2.11.92-0ubuntu1                      groupware suite with mail client and organiz
[02:11] <borovy3488> jimmacdonald: thanks, I guess I was wrong. Not missing any packages
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> lee__: AH! in time format...change it to "pH:MM...etc"
[02:12] <borovy3488> I can't edit time and date, anyone have any suggestions? When I try to, it crashes my panel.
[02:12] <lee__> did that lol
[02:12] <_dan_> cheatr i suggest to boot an old kernel and not use life cd, just to be sure
[02:12] <lee__> eh loggigng brb
[02:12] <lee__> see if that changes it
[02:13] <cheatr> _dan_: If i boot an old kernel, the login screen doesn't load. I get a colored background and a loading cursor.
[02:13] <Colro> I'm sitting here with only firefox, pidgin, and xchat open and my cpu is sitting at 100% usage -- my computer seems to run fairly slow with ubuntu gutsy as compared to winXP as well...is there anything that could be causing this? it's entirely usable, and desktop effects run on full without even a bit of slowdown, but it's kind of annoying
[02:13] <_dan_> cheatr but u cans witch to console right?
[02:13] <cheatr> _dan_: yeah
[02:14] <tesko> im getting a ton of errors from running pidgin through console
[02:14] <_dan_> try dpkg --configure -a there and see if it has the same error, but thats just a wild guess, i have no clue what could have caused your error, did u interrupt the upgrade process somehow?
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> Colro: run "top" in a terminal
[02:14] <lee__> ahh tha twas the trick
[02:14] <cheatr> _dan_: Also, if I do ls /usr/bin | grep evo, I can see the evolution binary
[02:14] <lee__> ok you cant find what?
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> lee__: ah...cool
[02:15] <jimmacdonald> borovy3488: did you try  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade?
[02:15] <Colro> norednaekim: want to join a different channel so that i can paste you the results without spamming the channel?
[02:15] <_dan_> cheatr ok so we need to find out why apt thinks its not installed
[02:15] <borovy3488> jimmacdonald: yea I tried both, with the same result
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> !paste | Colro
[02:15] <ubotu> Colro: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:16] <jimmacdonald> borovy3488: what makes you think your missing packages?
[02:16] <lee__> yeah i had to log out and log back in
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> Colro: what is the "top" process? trackerd?
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> lee__: thats what an annoying little pop-up told me
[02:16] <Colro> nautilus
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> Colro: 0.o
[02:17] <borovy3488> jimmacdonald: I can't edit the time and date.  at all.  when I click it, it crashes my panel.
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> ok...pastebin it.
[02:17] <Colro> my thoughts exactly =|
[02:17] <lee__> that i don't know
[02:17] <Colro> 1 second.
[02:17] <lee__> i am new to his too
[02:17] <jimmacdonald> your running the beta?
[02:17] <Colro> nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40666/
[02:18] <borovy3488> jimmacdonald: yea, I'm running the release candidate
[02:19] <jimmacdonald> did you do a dist upgrade or a new install?
[02:19] <borovy3488> dist upgrade
[02:19] <jimmacdonald> what repository are you connected to in update-manager?
[02:20] <lee__> oh youl love this...it means that you ordered the cd instead of down loading it .....eh..
[02:20] <lee__> did you key in infow?
[02:20] <borovy3488> i'm not sure.  I just ran the command, and followed the prompts on screen
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> Colro: do you have a file manager window upen?
[02:20] <lee__> http://www.ubuntu.com/search/node/%22top%22+process%3F+trackerd%3F
[02:20] <Colro> norednaekim: No.
[02:20] <jimmacdonald> are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[02:21] <lee__> at least that is what this is telling me
[02:21] <borovy3488> ubuntu
[02:21] <lee__> Me? i am using kubutu
[02:21] <NeoGeo64> heh
[02:21] <borovy3488> jimmacdonald: I'm using ubuntu
[02:21] <DanaG> Is there a way to force gnome-power-manager, or xorg, to think I'm idle?
[02:21] <lee__> erg
[02:21] <lee__> ill get yoy to the sight
[02:22] <WorkingOnWise> Does running compiz signifficantly degrade virtualbox vm performance?
[02:23] <lee__> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing go with the beta fewer bugs
[02:23] <lee__> or
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> Colro: ah..ok, run, from the terminal "killall nautilus"
[02:23] <jimmacdonald> borovy3488: go to system>administration>synaptic package manager
[02:23] <borovy3488> jimmacdonald: k, im there
[02:24] <lee__> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu
[02:24] <lee__> this link will give yo fiesty
[02:24] <Colro> norednaekim: well, that helped I suppose, but my CPU usage jumped right back up to 100% already
[02:24] <Colro> norednaekim: trackerd is at the top this time though.
[02:24] <lee__> from the sounds of things go with fiesty lol
[02:25] <jimmacdonald> borovy3488: when that opens click on settings>repositories and tell me what it says for Download From:
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> Colro: ah...
 is  the stable one for sure
[02:25] <lee__> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu
[02:26] <borovy3488> jimmacdonald: Server for the United States
[02:26] <lee__> i just got lucky thats all
[02:26] <jimmacdonald> borovy3488: change it to main server.
[02:26] <borovy3488> jimmacdonald: OK, then what?
[02:26] <jimmacdonald> borovy3488: it may be that you got a bad package and they have already updated the main server and it just hasn't flowed out to the mirror's yet.
[02:26] <lee__> download and burn th iso
[02:27] <jimmacdonald> borovy3488: once you do that... click on close then update again.
[02:27] <borovy3488> ok
[02:27] <lee__> oh sorry
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> Colro: well if you don'tlike tracker,there is a way to disable it.
[02:28] <Colro> nosrednaekim: to be honest, I don't even know what it is other then the fact that it's apparently eating my cpu time alive with bbq sauce on top
[02:28] <Konam> Tracker doesn't work fine here for sure
[02:28] <lee__> oh isnt traker the thing that tracks the packages you use/?
[02:28] <borovy3488> jimmacdonald: it still didn't install anything.
[02:28] <Konam> but here isn't a performance thing
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> Colro: lol... its the desktop search feature
[02:28] <lee__> ah
[02:28] <lee__> eh i dont have that lol
[02:28] <Colro> why the hell is it using so much cpu time when I'm not searching for anything?
[02:28] <jimmacdonald> have you reboot?
[02:28] <Konam> hey, am I the only one getting blurry icons in the menus? at 1024x768 resolution
[02:29] <jimmacdonald> s/reboot/rebooted?
[02:29] <UnluckyMike> anyone using gutsy with a rt61 wireless chipset?
[02:29] <savvas> borovy3488: before rebooting, if I may suggest something: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-panel
[02:29] <jimmacdonald> savvas: good call. thank you.
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> UnluckyMike: been hearing some bad reports on that
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> Colro: its indexing your home directory
[02:30] <savvas> jimmacdonald: time-admin is part of gnome-panel I think, that's why I asked him to do that :)
[02:30] <CheeseGardener> in CCSM, where is the setting that makes a window maximise when you double click the title bar, rather than rolling up???
[02:31] <WorkingOnWise> UnluckyMike: My Averatec laptop came with that card. After 2 days of no joy, I found a card fully supported by MadWiFi and boought it.
[02:31] <jimmacdonald> savvas: understand... just trying to get the obvious out of the way first.
[02:31] <UnluckyMike> nosrednaekim, yeah it's weird. It has never 100% worked, i usually just have to edit the network interfaces by hand. It appears to work now, it just changes the saved password at reboot.
[02:31] <WorkingOnWise> UnluckyMike: rt61 is real unstable.
[02:31] <borovy3488> savvas: i did those, now im rebooting
[02:32] <UnluckyMike> WorkingOnWise, my rt61 has always worked I just have to use the old iwpriv to configure
[02:32] <lee__> say is there an actual USB keyboard..eh not the kind that you type with but the kind that you play music wiht?
[02:32] <CheeseGardener> where is the setting in CCSM to make a window maximise when you double click it?
[02:32] <lee__> because this zysynth is pretty dasrn good
[02:32] <borovy3488> OK, I'm back. it says that the gnome panel couldn't be downloaded
[02:33] <WorkingOnWise> UnluckyMike: thats cool. I had no joy and couldn't find any solid help. Where were u 3 weeks ago man!? :)
[02:33] <UnluckyMike> does anyone have any idea why network manager is changing my wpa password at reboot?
[02:34] <borovy3488> savvas: it wouldn't let me download the gnome-panel
[02:34] <UnluckyMike> WorkingOnWise, I've been around I try to help with the rt61 issues when I can
[02:34] <borovy3488> savvas: said "it cannot be downloaded"
[02:35] <DanaG> Changing wpa passphrase?
[02:35] <DanaG> Hmm, perhaps it can't connect, and is suggesting that the key is wrong.
[02:35] <DanaG> Even if that's not the cause.
[02:36] <UnluckyMike> DanaG, It's connected right now, just when it reboots it changes the password, the only reason I can tell is it won't connect, and it has like a 25 key pass phrase instead of the normal passphrase
[02:37] <umer> hey guys, i've got a question, i just installed gutsy today, switching over from windows, and its the best version of ubuntu thus far, i am impressed and will stick around, if i can get this problem fixed. ive got a ho dv2213ca laptop, i think the sound card is a conexant, but i cant get sound to work
[02:38] <jimmacdonald> borovy3488: hand on a sec...
[02:38] <savvas> jimmacdonald: he left, meh
[02:39] <jimmacdonald> hehe... I have joins turned off.
[02:39] <DanaG> Hmm, perhaps check the options for "encryption type" -- i.e. AES-CCMP or TKIP.
[02:39] <savvas> and i was browsing the packages for gnome-panel :\ http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/gnome/gnome-panel
[02:39] <jimmacdonald> savvas: could have been a problem with gnome-panel-data as well.
[02:40] <savvas> true, very true
[02:40] <khatahn> is there detailed information somewhere with what kinds of systems compiz is installed/enabled by default?
[02:40] <jimmacdonald> savvas: that's what took me so long to answer I wanted to see the other packages that tied in.
[02:41] <UnluckyMike> DanaG, it doesn't have that option in the network manager, i think it is a driver thing. It has the option in the network manager applet, but It was doing the same thing in the applet
[02:41] <riotkittie> exit
[02:41] <riotkittie> oops
[02:44] <WorkingOnWise> Does running compiz signifficantly degrade virtualbox vm performance?
[02:44] <DanaG> Hmm, I haven't noticed any slowdown.
[02:44] <DanaG> However, I have been having the unrelated issues of Virtualbox eating CPU and sometimes randomly aborting,
[02:44] <DanaG> .
[02:44] <Audriil> I was redirected here; does someone know how to dist-upg to gutsy from kubuntu fiesty fawn?
[02:45] <WorkingOnWise> DanaG: Thanks for that. AFAIK, we must tolerate a bit of instability till Gutsy goes live?
[02:46] <Audriil> Does someone know how to dist-upg to gutsy from kubuntu fiesty fawn?
[02:46] <LjL> Audriil: i think do-release-upgrade is the official way, but it failed for me.
[02:46] <DanaG> Well, development versions are "your mileage may vary."
[02:47] <WorkingOnWise> DanaG: Have you had issues with the vm, XP guest, hanging on bootup?
[02:47] <lee__> well any one here tried any of the games?
[02:47] <DanaG> If you'd rather quote ads for non-car stuff, you could say "Results not typical."
[02:47] <WorkingOnWise> DanaG:  I like a bit-o-blood with my clock cycles... :)
 Thanks
[02:48] <DanaG> Oh yeah, my XP VM does often hang at start, and require 4 or 5 times of 'killall -9 VirtualBox'  and then restarting the VM.
[02:48] <DanaG> If I look in dmesg on the host, I'll see "General Protection Fault" in vboxdrv.
[02:48] <kingrayray> hey uh, i just updated and after a reboot my X is alllll messed up. cant get above 640x480
[02:48] <kingrayray> i have a geforce 6200 and the "low graphics mode" configure box seems to think i have a 6800.
[02:49] <kingrayray> i checked xorg.conf and everything checks out
 funny:
[02:49] <Audriil> audriil@kubuntu-box:~$ do-release-upgrade
[02:49] <Audriil> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[02:49] <Audriil> No new release found
[02:49] <kingrayray> anybody seen that happen?
[02:49] <LjL> Audriil: read the link that was given you... :)
[02:50] <savvas> DanaG: #vbox ?
[02:50] <lee__> Audrill how did yo get that e-mail adress?
[02:50] <lee__> oh duh never mind
[02:51] <lee__> that reminds me how do we configure the message mannage for msn?
[02:51] <lee__> or is it the sameas hotmail?
[02:51] <WorkingOnWise> DanaG: It seems that the vm boot more reliably if I keep the vm in focus til it gets to the login screen.
 I'm doing that now; It's just funny.  Over six months of work put into Gutsy... and it's not found...
[02:51] <LjL> Audriil, there's an option you have to give to that command.
[02:52] <jimmacdonald> is there a package I can install to allow the music player to understand .wma files?
[02:52] <lee__> yes
[02:52] <UnluckyMike> Audriil, i think you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all the feisty's to gutsy and run update manager
 Ahh
[02:53] <jimmacdonald> lee__: what's the name of it?
 Well, it's dling now, soo...
[02:53] <lee__> but i can't rember what it it is...you have to set yo fetcher to locate sipported and non suported things
[02:53] <lee__> erg i cant remebr the nae off the top of my head
[02:54] <lee__> and its dowloading a rather large file atm
[02:54] <jimmacdonald> !restricted
[02:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:54] <lee__> oh there yo go lol
[02:55] <savvas> also ubuntu-restricted-extras :P
[02:55] <lee__> up in the box  for the search key in .wma
[02:55] <lee__> make sure that your in the view all
[02:57] <DanaG> Oh yeah, one thing I do with Virtualbox:
[02:57] <DanaG> I use Windowblinds with the Dogmax2a skin (the white-flag version).
[02:57] <DanaG> That way, instead of having a poor attempt at matching Windows to Linux, I have Windows look visually distinct, yet still very nice.
[02:58] <lee__> arthee any good 3d games that work with linux ?
[02:58] <lee__> out of the box that is
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> lee__: oh yeah... try bzflag.
[02:58] <kingrayray> seriously, anybody having any X issues after updates? :(
[02:59] <kingrayray> my "bulletproof x" seems to be rather wounded.
[02:59] <lee__> hm thats in the program thingy?
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> lee__: yup
[02:59] <lee__> eh in the fetcher?
[02:59] <lee__> ok
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> fetcher?
[02:59] <lee__> it dlin atm lol
[03:00] <lee__> hmm this flight sim  will be intersting to see
[03:00] <lee__> wahts bzflag about?
[03:00] <kingrayray> its a tank game
[03:00] <kingrayray> pretty fun
[03:00] <lee__> ok
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> yeah..flightgear is very nice
[03:01] <lee__> yeah iam looking to put his thin trhough its paces now tha i am on 64 bit
[03:02] <lee__> flight gear is the one i down loaded lol
[03:02] <lee__> nothing like a good game to see if you can break the system
[03:02] <kingrayray> try Quake 4
[03:02] <kingrayray> lol
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> lee__: do you have good 3d acceleration?
[03:03] <lee__> quake 4/
[03:03] <lee__> yes
[03:03] <lee__> 128 mega btes worth of good
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> :)
[03:03] <lee__> well kinda its ati
[03:03] <kingrayray> owww
[03:03] <lee__> x300
[03:04] <nosrednaekim> lee__: did you install the drivers?
[03:04] <kingrayray> wow, i really wish i hadn't updated
[03:04] <lee__> so far Iam handling the grapics that I have set up pretty well
[03:04] <kingrayray> 800x600 is a useless resolution
[03:04] <lee__> no
[03:04] <lee__> I treid it an it killed my machine lol
[03:04] <nosrednaekim> kingrayray: did you try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:04] <kingrayray> yes
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> lee__: then you don't have very good 3d acceleration.
[03:05] <kingrayray> im not new to fixing X, that's why i'm so frustrated
[03:05] <kingrayray> xorg.conf checks out fine
[03:05] <lee__> grr
[03:05] <kingrayray> module's loaded
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> kingrayray: yeah... i've heard the new "tool" is sometimes a major pain.
[03:05] <lee__> well I have my system working ok atm lol
[03:05] <kingrayray> i just booted up and it destroyed everything
[03:05] <lee__> ouch'
[03:05] <kingrayray> although at 800x600 compiz is really fast
[03:06] <kingrayray> everything works, i just cant get my native 1600x1200
[03:06] <lee__> when the stable release comes out then Ill try the drivers
[03:06] <lee__> I have the ati drivers bt after i loaded it I got a black screen
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> kingrayray: humm do you have your video card's drivers installed?
[03:06] <kingrayray> yeah
[03:06] <kingrayray> nvidia
[03:06] <lee__> on unbuntu, It ws only regestring 32 of 128
[03:06] <kingrayray> and i have acceleratoin and everything
[03:06] <jdrake> I gave NetworkManager a restart command, and it worked to fix it so it would connect to my wireless after a sleep. But now it is taking 100% cpu (approx.) and it did this last night as well. Any ideas on what is causing this?
[03:07] <lee__> and gutsy really messed up
[03:07] <kingrayray> just no resolutions, i'm thinking its a monitor issue
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> kingrayray: odd odd...can you just uninstall the stupid bullet-proof X?
[03:07] <lee__> so should I enable the card or not?
[03:07] <kingrayray> i'd love to just roll back to my packages from a few hours ago
[03:07] <lee__> and if so how do I recover form the blod
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> lee__: use the restricted-manager
[03:08] <lee__> ??
[03:08] <fryguy> I installed the compiz control panel and emerald, and now emerald is taking over window decoration for me.  How can I make metacity be my window manager again?
[03:08] <lee__> tht means don touch right lol
[03:08] <kingrayray> lee__: no, its a program to manage drivers
[03:08] <joshjosh> fryguy, Alt+F2 then type metacity --replace
[03:08] <lee__> ok
[03:08] <kingrayray> lee_: run restricted-manager
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> but that will get rid of compiz I think..
[03:09] <kingrayray> from a terminal or run command dialog
[03:09] <kingrayray> nosrednaekim: shouldn't
[03:09] <kingrayray> or you can try um
[03:09] <lee__> so instead of loading the ati drivers i have, let it load load its own?
[03:09] <kingrayray> what is it.. gtk-window-manager or something?
[03:09] <kingrayray> no, gtk-window-decorator.
[03:09] <fryguy> joshjosh: will this stay in effect for future sessions now?
[03:09] <lee__> when I clcik on the card
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> lee__:  yeah.
[03:09] <joshjosh> fryguy, Not sure. I haven't done it before. But that command should work. You could add it to your sessions.
[03:10] <fryguy> joshjosh: the command did work, I'll look into session management some more, thanks
[03:10] <joshjosh> fryguy, Not a problem!
[03:10] <lee__> its saying ati
[03:10] <lee__> and then flgrx
[03:11] <lee__> going to ad min mode
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> lee__: ok.... enable it.
[03:12] <lee__> eh I think its already in enable, its says at 256 meg
[03:12] <lee__> greyed though
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> greyed?
[03:13] <gentoon> Can someone help me upgrade from fiesty please?
[03:13] <Viking667> hello all. I'm on Kubuntu feisty, how do I enable adept to upgrade to gutsy? (I clicked on "Full Upgrade", but that didn't seem to do anything much.
[03:14] <fryguy> hrmm, metacity --replace removes all of the compiz effects as well.  I was using compiz + metacity fine, and then I restarted X and now it uses emerald + compiz and I can't get back to metacity + compiz.  Any ideas
[03:14] <lee__> yeah the in fact its saying standard or propietary and taht all geyed
[03:14] <joshjosh> Viking667, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3cb12417f0af7f24d4a34f2ae4040bf791c42f52
[03:15] <lee__> its already enabled
[03:15] <Viking667> thank you. I'll look that up
[03:15] <joshjosh> fryguy, hmm. that's strange.
[03:15] <joshjosh> fryguy, Is compiz in your sessions?
[03:15] <lee__> oh wait
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> Viking667: the most stable way is from the command line
[03:15] <fryguy> joshjosh: yes
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> Viking667: the adept updater seems to be pretty broken by all accounts
[03:17] <philip_> I need to install the Java Runtime Environment...which package should I install?
[03:18] <Viking667> nosrednaekim: sounds like "apt-get dist-update" again?
[03:18] <lee__> eh iam not sure waht to think of all this...try to find my driver main icon thingy
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> Viking667: pretty much :)
[03:18] <joshjosh> i'm installed kubuntu RC1...but can't get flash to work. I've downloaded the kubuntu restricted packages. And i've also tried installing flashplugin-nonfree via terminal, and I still get no flash. Anyone have any idea what the problem is?
[03:18] <lee__> aside from hte one in the settings
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> joshjosh: hmmm worked for me..
[03:19] <joshjosh> ok. i see the problem. the website i'm trying to use is using flash 9. I must have an earlier version.
[03:19] <Viking667> thank you. Darn.
[03:20] <savvas> joshjosh: flashplugin-nonfree gives you the latest flash 9
[03:20] <joshjosh> hmm
[03:20] <savvas> joshjosh: did you restart your browser? 32-bit or 64-bit?
[03:20] <joshjosh> 32 bit.
[03:20] <joshjosh> yes i restarted
[03:21] <joshjosh> i can watch youtube videos, but can't watch this website. it says i require flash 9
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> joshjosh: are you using firefox or konqueror?
[03:21] <joshjosh> firefox
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> joshjosh: oh.. you can watch youtube?
[03:21] <joshjosh> yes.
[03:21] <savvas> joshjosh: in the browser address bar type this: about:plugins
[03:21] <savvas> it will give you info about the plugin, loaded or not
[03:22] <joshjosh> it's 9.0 r48 and it's enabled.
[03:22] <joshjosh> I could view thsi website on my last install. this is wacky.
[03:22] <lee__> eh I thinks its already configured
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> joshjosh: did you try konqueror?
[03:23] <joshjosh> doesn't work for konq either
[03:24] <fryguy> when I restart x though it comes up with the wrong decorator again though
[03:24] <joshjosh> i'm going to remove it and reinstall.
[03:25] <joshjosh> the website i'm trying to use it http://www.justin.tv
[03:26] <DanaG> Oh yeah, now Compiz defaults to Emerald.
[03:26] <joshjosh> ok. i got it working. thanks guys
[03:26] <DanaG> What I did to change that: sudo chmod -x /usr/bin/emerald
[03:26] <DanaG> Makes emerald not executable, and thus not used.
[03:27] <Colro> is the virtualbox in gutsy's repos broken?
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> joshjosh: NP
[03:27] <Colro> Ss the virtualbox in gutsy's repos broken? I keep getting this error when I try to boot virtual machines: " VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Re-setup the kernel module by executing '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root. "
[03:28] <DanaG> sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[03:28] <Colro> I tried that, command not found
[03:28] <DanaG> Odd.
[03:28] <DanaG> I just installed the non-OSE version from the Feisty deb on their web site.
[03:29] <savvas> Colro: sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[03:29] <DanaG> Oh yeah, do dpkg --list-files virtualbox-ose
[03:29] <DanaG> See if it's missing.
[03:29] <Colro> savvas: command isn't found
[03:29] <Colro> alright, will do
[03:29] <Colro> 1 minute
[03:30] <savvas>  * Usage: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv {start|stop|restart|status|setup}
[03:30] <savvas> :p
[03:30] <savvas> Colro: virtualbox-ose or virtualbox ?
[03:31] <Colro> ose
[03:31] <savvas> maybe that's why
[03:31] <savvas> the open source edition has some "cut-backs"
[03:37] <BHSPitMonkey> hey guys
[03:37] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm doing a feisty to gutsy upgrade right now via update-manager -c -d
[03:37] <SoBoredLol> how do i recompile my terminal?
[03:37] <BHSPitMonkey> it keeps saying x package could not be installed
[03:37] <savvas> BHSPitMonkey: update-manager -d
[03:37] <SoBoredLol> kernel*
[03:38] <savvas> BHSPitMonkey: you then click check and after that you upgrade to gutsy
[03:38] <Hegemon> need hellp
[03:38] <BHSPitMonkey> savvas, indeed
[03:38] <BHSPitMonkey> among the packages it says it could not install are baseutils, bash, adduser, passwd, ...
[03:38] <Hegemon> trying to install gutsy
[03:38] <SoBoredLol> how do i recompile my kernel/mouse driver?????
[03:39] <BHSPitMonkey> they say "dependency problems - leaving unconfigured"
[03:39] <Hegemon> but it keeps saying
[03:39] <Hegemon> "Failed to fetch http://wine.lowvoice.nl/apt/dists/feisty/Release.gpg Could not resolve 'wine.lowvoice.nl'
[03:39] <Hegemon> Failed to fetch http://wine.lowvoice.nl/apt/dists/feisty/main/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2 Could not resolve 'wine.lowvoice.nl'
[03:39] <Hegemon> Failed to fetch http://wine.lowvoice.nl/apt/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Could not resolve 'wine.lowvoice.nl'
[03:39] <Hegemon> "
[03:39] <savvas> BHSPitMonkey: yeah, but try without -c
[03:39] <BHSPitMonkey> savvas, what does -c do?
[03:39] <BHSPitMonkey> it's not in the manpage
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> Hegemon: remove that line from your sources.list
[03:39] <BHSPitMonkey> I just parrotted the command from various web articles describing the process
[03:39] <savvas> Hegemon: that looks like a third party repository for wine
[03:40] <BHSPitMonkey> cupsys, ssl-cert
[03:40] <Hegemon> where's sources.list again?
[03:40] <BHSPitMonkey> Hegemon, /etc/apt
[03:40] <|neon|> have ne1 installed gutsy using the intel ichr9 on a RAID 0 , i know is softraid aka fakeraid but isn't there a way to get the 2 drives setup as RAID 0 using Linux Raid
[03:40] <BHSPitMonkey> Hegemon, or just go to System>Administration>Software Sources
[03:40] <savvas> BHSPitMonkey: it checks for new devel releases, but that it done with the check button better
[03:41] <savvas> BHSPitMonkey: you could alternatively try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:41] <Xiro> would anyone be willing to assist me with a guide/tutorial to get suspend/hibernate working with gutsy on my sony vaio SZ650 laptop? this is keeping me from wanting to run ubuntu
[03:42] <Hegemon> thnaks
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> Xiro: debugging that is awful hard.
[03:42] <BHSPitMonkey> savvas, you're acting as if I haven't started the upgrade yet
[03:42] <Hegemon> lets see if that works
[03:42] <BHSPitMonkey> savvas, I get the feeling I'm going to walk away from this with a borked install
[03:43] <Xiro> nosrednaekim: is there much luck with it?
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> Xiro: its ALL luck ;)
[03:43] <savvas> BHSPitMonkey: I have a feeling you're trying to upgrade to a non-stable release yet :) you should know the risks
[03:44] <Xiro> nosrednaekim: it worked perfectly on my HP laptop, but my wife uses that laptop for school, I needed it to work on my sony vaio, but sony is closed about their hardware and is making this a very painful process to figure out
[03:44] <BHSPitMonkey> savvas, I do, and I was prepared for the worst, but it is reasonable of me to hold a release candidate to a high standard
[03:44] <BHSPitMonkey> and to report problems I'm having with a supported upgrade mechanism
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> Xiro: indeed. such is the problem. first, I would uninstall all proprietary drivers (ATI/nvidia)
[03:44] <savvas> BHSPitMonkey: I did a clean install, I have a separate partition for /home and formatted the / root partition and all is well
[03:44] <BHSPitMonkey> savvas, as do I
[03:45] <BHSPitMonkey> except for the clean install part.
[03:45] <Xiro> nosrednaekim: i have spent hours looking for online guides and it seems that the only solution is to wait for this group of people who is collecting vaio information to write scripts to do it in gutsy
[03:45] <BHSPitMonkey> which I may have to do if this isntall gets fubar
[03:45] <Xiro> nosrednaekim: some sort of stickied thread on the forums
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> Xiro: yeah...probably. see if the group needs any help. thats the best way to speed the process :)
[03:46] <Xiro> nosrednaekim: im not sure how i could be of any help other than posting my info
[03:46] <Xiro> nosrednaekim: it seems i may just have to wait before making the move to ubuntu :S
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> Xiro: yeah :(
[03:47] <Xiro> nosrednaekim: its a shame too, my friend has gutsy working perfectly on his dell laptop and it looks gorgeous
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> ah... did it come with ubuntu?
[03:48] <Xiro> nosrednaekim: nope..he bought one of those business solution cheap laptops
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> ah. ok
[03:48] <Xiro> nosrednaekim: day it came he wiped vista and installed ubuntu
[03:48] <savvas> Xiro: dell supports ubuntu oem
[03:49] <Xiro> savvas: i am running a sony vaio laptop
[03:49] <Hegemon> stupid question
[03:49] <Hegemon> I fi upgrade to the beta now
[03:49] <savvas> either way, dell's hardware is probably carefully selected and supported
[03:49] <Hegemon> will i have to up grade on the 18 th again?
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> Hegemon: nope
[03:49] <Xiro> yea sony doesnt play well with linux :S
[03:49] <Hegemon> ok
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> Hegemon: just normal updates
[03:49] <Hegemon> ahh
[03:49] <Hegemon> ok
[03:49] <Hegemon> good
[03:49] <savvas> Xiro: my sony ericsson mobile does :P
[03:49] <maek> is is possible to remove gimp without removing the ubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[03:50] <Xiro> savvas: lol my vaio SZ650 doesnt :(
[03:50] <Xiro> savvas: i did some google searching and it seems a lot of people are having the same problems as i am getting basic functionality to work
[03:50] <savvas> maek: why? it can't fit in your partition?
[03:51] <BHSPitMonkey> Could not install the upgrades   The upgrade aborts now. Your system could be in an unusable state. A recovery will run now (dpkg --configure -a).   Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ in the bugreport.   installArchives() failed
[03:51] <BHSPitMonkey> :(
[03:51] <BHSPitMonkey> off to launchpad I suppose
[03:52] <Xiro> dont you just hate when the only operating system that your computer supports is vista...makes you feel so dirty..
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> Xiro: lol
[03:52] <savvas> maek: it's 10mb I think without its help file
[03:52] <Hegemon> lol
[03:53] <maek> savvas: ok, good call. No real reason to then. just wondering about trimming the fat. thanks
[03:54] <savvas> maek: I don't think you'll be able to without loosing the ubuntu-desktop metapackage :\ the apps are what makes the ubuntu-desktop. you could install ubuntu-minimal however and build on that
[03:54] <maek> savvas: whats ubuntu-minimal?
[03:54] <savvas> maek: apt-cache show ubuntu-minimal
[03:55] <maek> savvas: what I was doing was installing server and building up from there but im getting problems with this new laptop.
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> maek: a) Why do you want to remove Gimp?  b) do you have a specifc reason not to remove ubuntu-desktop?
[03:55] <savvas> you'll have to install gnome/kde from apt-get manually though heh
[03:55] <maek> savvas: im using wmii, so I dont need gnome/kde
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> oh
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> If you're not using Gnome, there's really no reason for ubuntu-desktop then ;)
[03:56] <maek> tonyyarusso: I dont need gimp, dont use it and Im just worried about ripping out meta packages
[03:56] <savvas> maek: I don't own a laptop, sorry :)
[03:56] <maek> tonyyarusso: oh. thanks.
[03:56] <maek> savvas: smart move :)
[03:56] <Psi-Jack> I'm having a serious problem with Evolution. I cannot make any appointments at all, and when I try to do so from the "New" button, I get this error: Unable to open the calendar 'Personal' for creating events and meetings.
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> maek: Fair enough.  The purpose of ubuntu-desktop is to help automate installation of new packages during upgrades, but if you're not using Gnome, you're not using the stuff it's pulling in anyway.
[03:56] <Xiro> maek: if not using gnome/kde, just install debian sarge net installer...its ubuntu minus all the stuff....
[03:57] <maek> Xiro: minus all the friendly ;)
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> Xiro: That would give you debian, which isn't binary compatible.
[03:57] <jordan_U> update manager has frozen for me, just after clicking to install the latest updates, but I don't think ( can't remember for sure ) that it has asked me for my password yet. And dpkg has not set a lock yet.
[03:57] <Xiro> maek: ehh wasnt sure what you were using it for, i use debian sarge for networking mainly
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> However, you can use the !alternate CD, choose "Install a command-line system", and that will give you ubuntu-minimal.
[03:58] <maek> Xiro: yeah, my file server at home is running debian.
[03:58] <Psi-Jack> This is a fairly fresh install of Ubuntu Gutsy RC, too.
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> It's not fully graphical like the desktop CD, but it's pretty easy to understand ncurses menus.
[03:58] <maek> tonyyarusso: thanks. I didnt know about that option, seems better then installing server
[03:59] <tonyyarusso> maek: yeah - I actually personally prefer the alternate CD for all of my installations, just to bypass all the prettiness and get right to the point ;)  (plus it can do LVM and RAID)
[03:59] <savvas> maek: the server edition has a lot of stuff for servers, I don't think you'll need any of them on a laptop, like http daemon (to host websites?) :P
[03:59] <maek> tonyyarusso: I will look into the alt cd, thanks.
[04:00] <BHSPitMonkey> hey tonyyarusso
[04:00] <maek> savvas: yeah, Ive been running 7.04 server on my old laptop for a while now, lots of stuff to turn off and lots of stuff to add. PITA
[04:00] <Davy_Jones> hi
[04:00] <maek> having a mobile lamp stack is nice for testing work
[04:00] <Davy_Jones> i tried to install ubuntu studio 7.1 and i got this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40669/
[04:00] <Davy_Jones> any ideas?
[04:01] <Davy_Jones> this is the RC
[04:01] <BHSPitMonkey> Davy_Jones, well. for starters, it's 7.10 ;)
[04:01] <Davy_Jones> i don't know what difference it makes but whatever
[04:01] <CheeseGardener> I'm having problems with Open Office 2.3, getting it to print on Gutsy.
[04:01] <BHSPitMonkey> (standard decimal rules don't apply to Ubuntu version naming)
[04:02] <Psi-Jack> Okay...
[04:02] <Psi-Jack> Dangit.
[04:02] <Psi-Jack> How do I completely trash evolution's setup and re-built it from scratch, at least?
[04:02] <BHSPitMonkey> Davy_Jones, I'm in the middle of an upgrade and nothing's working, so I can't pull up your paste unfortunately
[04:02] <Psi-Jack> I tried mv ~/,evolution ~/.evolution.off
[04:02] <Psi-Jack> but it still pulls up.. Stuff....
[04:02] <letalis> anyone get a working framebuffer console yet?
[04:03] <Davy_Jones> BHSPitMonkey: basically it says it cannot fetch the kernel from the cd for some reason
[04:03] <BHSPitMonkey> Davy_Jones, (It goes by year and month;  7 for 2007 and 10 for October.)
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> Psi-Jack: do you have a program called "creationism" on your computer?
[04:03] <BHSPitMonkey> Davy_Jones, and you are trying to install from the CD, correct?
[04:03] <bqmassey> i'd like to install the Avant bar .. how'd i go about doin that?
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> !AWM
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <Davy_Jones> BHSPitMonkey: yes
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> !AWN
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <BHSPitMonkey> !avant-window-manager
[04:03] <savvas> !avant
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> bqmassey: google it.. there is a tuturial
[04:03] <savvas> :(
[04:04] <bqmassey> ok
[04:04] <BHSPitMonkey> erm
[04:04] <nzero> ok two questions. 1 is there an ATI control panel for ubuntu and 2 whats a good animate quick launcher, like the one on mac osx that sits at the bottom?
[04:04] <BHSPitMonkey> !info avant-window-manager
[04:04] <ubotu> Package avant-window-manager does not exist in gutsy
[04:04] <DanaG> I tried it for about 15 minutes, then said, "baah, I don't need it".
[04:04] <DanaG> !google
[04:04] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[04:04] <CheeseGardener> is anyone else having problems with open office 2.3 and printing?
[04:04] <Psi-Jack> nosrednaekim: Hmmm..
[04:04] <BHSPitMonkey> Davy_Jones, tried the people in #ubuntustudio?
[04:04] <jordan_U> Should I just kill update-manager or is there something I should do to get more info for a bug report first?
[04:04] <Psi-Jack> nosrednaekim: Doesn't tab-complete in bash.
[04:04] <nzero> cheeesegardner: update system
[04:04] <Davy_Jones> BHSPitMonkey: it's dead there
[04:04] <Powerking89670> night all
[04:04] <maek> bqmassey: http://awn.wetpaint.com/page/UbuntuFeistyHowTo?t=anon
[04:05] <CheeseGardener> my system is updated.
[04:05] <nzero> do it again
[04:05] <bqmassey> thanks maek
[04:05] <Davy_Jones> BHSPitMonkey: do you come here often?
[04:05] <maek> bqmassey: np
[04:05] <BHSPitMonkey> Davy_Jones, checksum and verify your CD?
[04:05] <nzero> cups an openoffice just got updated
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> nzero: yes there is an ATI control center, and try AWN, or kooldock for kde
[04:05] <BHSPitMonkey> Davy_Jones, I'm always in here, but I don't come here entirely too often.
[04:05] <nzero> thANKS
[04:05] <Davy_Jones> BHSPitMonkey: is it common to see people having problems with their kernels not able to be fetched?
[04:05] <BHSPitMonkey> haven't been watching, sorry
[04:05] <BHSPitMonkey> Davy_Jones, might want to try plugging your error into google
[04:06] <CheeseGardener> it says my system is up to date.
[04:06] <nzero> is the ati control panel in the stock repos
[04:06] <Davy_Jones> BHSPitMonkey: i don't think i'll be able to get something, but doesn't hurt to try
[04:07] <nzero> hmm
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> nzero: yeah
[04:07] <Psi-Jack> nosrednaekim: Why, what is creationism?
[04:07] <nzero> cool
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> Psi-Jack: haha... it was a joke... osrry
[04:08] <CheeseGardener> when I clicked check it came up with other stuff
[04:08] <CheeseGardener> so we'll see.
[04:08] <Psi-Jack> Okay.  No it doesn't. :p
[04:09] <baked>  hey, sorry to bother you w/ a simple question like this. I am having trouble with bug #106418, but it says its fixed.  I wanted to try the latest kernel, is there a way to install the latest kernel from dev through apt-get?
[04:09] <noah_> I just upgraded to gutsy today and my sound went caput
[04:09] <Psi-Jack> Sheash. Don't tell me what to use! You're just being rude by doing that.
[04:09] <Psi-Jack> I'm trying to use Evolution for SCHEDULES!
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> bug 106410
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> bug 106418
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> huh.... seems the bot is down
[04:11] <IdleOne> ubotu: ping
[04:11] <ubotu> pong
[04:11] <hydrogen> bug #106418
[04:11] <IdleOne> bug #106418
[04:11] <hydrogen> shrug
[04:11] <hydrogen> oh well
[04:11] <Psi-Jack> Heh
[04:11] <IdleOne> is it a launchpad bug?
[04:11] <Psi-Jack> No, Evolution will not let me create any Calendar appointments.
[04:12] <Psi-Jack> I'm having a serious problem with Evolution. I cannot make any appointments at all, and when I try to do so from the "New" button, I get this error: Unable to open the calendar 'Personal' for creating events and meetings.
[04:12] <Davy_Jones> !bug
[04:12] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:12] <IdleOne> hydrogen: [22:11:30]  <ubotu> Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: timed out
[04:12] <nzero> hey how do i access the ati control panel
[04:12] <hydrogen> yep.
[04:12] <hydrogen> I got the same thing
[04:12] <nzero> Ubotu:ping
[04:12] <ubotu> pong
[04:12] <nzero> robots are cool
[04:12] <IdleOne> bot is fine it's launchpad that is messing up heh
[04:12] <baked> yea
[04:13] <baked> thats the bug i am experiencing right now
[04:13] <nzero> hey how do i access the ati control panel?
[04:13] <Davy_Jones> i wish bash was as intuitive as ubotu
[04:13] <baked> sorry, i didn't know a bug was telling you information
[04:13] <nosrednaekim> nzero: should be in the menu
[04:13] <IdleOne> nzero: dont play to muchwith the bot in the #ubuntu's or the ops get mad and set ubotu +killermode
[04:14] <nzero> hmmm not seeing it
[04:14] <baked> does anyone have an answer to my question here?
[04:14] <Davy_Jones> baked: apt should take care of any upgrades
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> nzero: I forget its name..
[04:14] <Psi-Jack> So, does anyone know .. Well first of all, why, Evolution's not working, out of the box, for me, but is for my brother on his computer.. And how to fix it or wipe it and restart over, just Evolution? ;)
[04:15] <nosrednaekim> Psi-Jack: did you delete the evolution config files?
[04:15] <Psi-Jack> nosrednaekim: I deleted ~/.evolution yes
[04:15] <nosrednaekim> oh. well I don't use gnome, so IDK.
[04:15] <Psi-Jack> It just re-created it and still had the "Schedule" calendar I made from before I deleted it, so it was obviously not done. LOL
[04:16] <Psi-Jack> Still, of course, not working.
[04:16] <SoBoredLol> how can i recompile my mouse driver (synaptic)
[04:17] <kevinO> whats the command to upgrade from fiesty to gutsy?
[04:18] <nzero> none right now
[04:18] <nzero> download gutsy iso from site
[04:18] <nzero> !gutsy
[04:18] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[04:18] <defcon> ralink rt73 still doesnt work out of the box in gutsy, works fine in other os's like fedora/pclinuxos... this hasnt worked since pre-feisty
[04:18] <noah_> Hi, I was wondering if anyone has had sound issues with gutsy and nVidia MCP51
[04:18] <kevinO> there is because I have done it before i just forgot the command
[04:18] <defcon> plenty of bug reports filed, its a blueprint and gutsy is going to be released yet flawed again
[04:19] <jsubl2> noah_, that is what i have and it seems ok so far
[04:20] <IdleOne> !upgrade | kevinO
[04:20] <ubotu> kevinO: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:20] <kevinO> thanks
[04:21] <kevinO> is that server down i canot get to it?
[04:21] <IdleOne> kevinO: seems all ubuntu servers are having issues at the momment
[04:21] <kevinO> ok
[04:21] <nzero> i installed fglrx control panel and its just missing in action
[04:21] <noah_> jsubl2_, so it probably doesn't have much to do with the sound card then i imagine...
[04:22] <nosrednaekim> nzero: try "dpkg -l <package name>"
[04:22] <nosrednaekim> that should tell you the executable
[04:22] <jsubl2> noah_, i just had to edit preference of the mixer and add some channels to raise the audio level on.  then it was fine
[04:23] <jsubl2> 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[04:23] <noah_> yeah, that's the one
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> noah_: you may have to erase some alsa config files
[04:24] <noah_> I gave that a shot
[04:24] <jsubl2> mine is out of the box.  I did not edit anything manually
[04:24] <Psi-Jack> Is there more to Evolution than ~/.evolution?
[04:25] <lamalex> Hey, is anyone having problems with flash crashing firefox?
[04:25] <lamalex> it's happening to me with FF2 and FF3
[04:26] <noah_> nosrednaekim_ would you be referring to ~/.asoundrc* ?
[04:26] <ISS_Student> If I can run fgl_glxgears should I be able to run beryl?
[04:27] <lee__> OK NOW IWANT IT FIXED
[04:27] <lee__> on back up drive
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> ISS_Student, that depends on the video card
[04:27] <lee__> and I have the other drive mounted
[04:27] <noah_> jsubl2_, for some reason i'm getting a no gstreamer plugin or device found error
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> intel, ati and nvidia should let it work...
[04:27] <lee__> no it crashed my system
[04:28] <lee__> all i get is a black screen
[04:28] <jsubl2> noah_, how and what are you playing ogg with rhythmbox or??
[04:28] <SoBoredLol> how do i recompile my kernel/mouse driver?????
[04:28] <lee__> so can some on please hel;p me restore it to where at least it will strt up
[04:28] <frostburn> SoBoredLol, are you using your own custom kernel?
[04:28] <SoBoredLol> no
[04:29] <frostburn> then you don't need to recompile?
[04:29] <SoBoredLol> i am using 7.10 that i downloaded yesterday and my dmesg is filled with messages like
[04:29] <noah_> jsubl2_, i'm actually not even trying to play anything right now i got that error from the volume control at the top
[04:29] <vasuvi> Is there any way to find out what interrupts are being used by which device?
[04:29] <SoBoredLol> one sec lemme get the paste url
[04:29] <noah_> jsubl2_, "at the top" meaning in my top panel
[04:30] <lee__> can some please send me a scrit to reset kubuntu to its origional setting with out the drivers activated
[04:30] <SoBoredLol> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40596/
[04:30] <jsubl2> noah_, did you install the rc?  that is what i am running
[04:30] <SoBoredLol> frostburn, check out that ubuntu paste url i get a new one of them about every 10-16mins....
[04:30] <lee__> eh is there a pste to help me get my system back online
[04:31] <frostburn> SoBoredLol, and this didn't happen in older kernels?
[04:31] <wastedfluid> has anyone figurd out s2disk on gutsy?  having lots of problems with it.
[04:31] <lee__> my drive is mounted
[04:31] <SoBoredLol> nope
[04:31] <jsubl2> noah_, i am also using the 64bit
[04:31] <SoBoredLol> only started happening when i upgraded to 7.10.....
[04:31] <ISS_Student> I'm running RC and On the Beta I installed KDE and a bunch of extras and it killed my Wireless so I'm wondering if I should try KDE again or just stick with Gnome
[04:31] <SoBoredLol> i did a fresh install twice now frostburn
[04:31] <lee__> then can some one come into my system and take alook at the ati drivers and see i what I need to chagne?
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> wastedfluid, it should be using your swap partition... if you made it big enough...
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> that is how mine works
[04:32] <noah_> jsubl2_, rc?
[04:32] <noah_> jsubl2_, oh, yes me as wel
[04:32] <lee__> if you do KDE Dont screw with the drivers or youl have nothing
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> lee__, what drivers?
[04:32] <savvas> SoBoredLol: try this: sudo modprobe psmouse
[04:33] <lee__> thise friggin ati drivers for when I enabled the friggin card
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> ah
[04:33] <lee__> I don't want to have to relaod
[04:33] <SoBoredLol> how do i unprobe it?, i need my scroller back :)
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> ati can rot in card oblivion at this point...
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> rmmod psmouse
[04:33] <lee__> well I want to know how to reverse it
[04:33] <earlmred> hmm
[04:34] <savvas> SoBoredLol: rmmod psmouse
[04:34] <earlmred> firefox keeps crashing when i try to save a file from a webpage
[04:34] <frostburn> SoBoredLol, submit a bug report and use an older kernel, or if you want compile your own kernel, there's a few good guides on that.  im not sure what custom patches are used with ubuntu
[04:34] <savvas> ah sorry nomasteryoda :P
[04:34] <earlmred> but not if i right click and say save link as...
[04:34] <jsubl2> noah_, in a terminal window type id and make sure you are in the audio group
[04:34] <lee__> if theres any ke codes that will get me to the screen so i can uncheck it
[04:34] <SoBoredLol> frostburn, i sent one..., and how do i get an older one via apt?
[04:34] <lee__> fine Ill pick at it  myself
[04:35] <letalis> anyone had any luck getting a framebuffer console working with nvidia cards?
[04:35] <lee__> maybe Ill soe kind a dammage to where it will have to revert back to its origional state
[04:35] <CheeseGardener> I'm still having problems with open office.  When I go to print something, it freezes on me in gutsy.  I updated my system completely too.
[04:35] <letalis> i attempted it last time and got black screens
[04:35] <jimmacdonald> !flashplayer
[04:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:35] <frostburn> SoBoredLol, there should be 3-4 different kernels in your grub menu, if not you can install them via synaptic under linux-image-2.6.22-whatever
[04:35] <letalis> on a setting that worked prior to using gutsy
[04:35] <savvas> CheeseGardener: did you reboot after the lastest openoffice updates?
[04:35] <CheeseGardener> No
[04:36] <lamalex> anyone able to help?
[04:36] <noah_> jsubl2_, could you tell me how to get there?
[04:36] <orphean> dsf
[04:36] <lee__> ok I have my hard drive mounted can some at least give a script so that I can manualy change it
[04:36] <savvas> CheeseGardener: well try reboot and try again, some of the changes require an X restart. Otherwise, a bug report might be nice: http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:37] <CheeseGardener> ok
[04:37] <lee__> wait all unbunto is the same for its hard ware right
[04:37] <savvas> SoBoredLol: fixed?
[04:38] <lee__> wahts the commnd line for editing the drivers
[04:38] <savvas> SoBoredLol: or disabled for that matter :P
[04:38] <lee__> I can cut and paste waht I had save
[04:38] <lee__> from unbuntu
[04:38] <SoBoredLol> savvas, i need my touchpad (lol)
[04:38] <SoBoredLol> so lets not disable it :)
[04:38] <jsubl2> noah_, is that logged in as the user id u setup during installation
[04:38] <SoBoredLol> i am downloading a new kernel :)
[04:38] <savvas> SoBoredLol: well.. modprobe actually enables it
[04:39] <jsubl2> noah_, applications - accessories -- terminal..  then when it comes up type id and hit enter
[04:39] <SoBoredLol> can i recompile the mouse pad driver?
[04:39] <SoBoredLol> it is a synaptic mouse pad
[04:39] <savvas> SoBoredLol: do this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r`
[04:39] <noah_> jsubl2_, thanks
[04:40] <umer> hello everyone, i am having a problem. i am using ubuntu gutsy, release candidate, i have an hp laptop and the sound of the built in speakers or the headphones isnt working. also i have a usb soundblaster sound card. originally it was giving sound prefectly fine, however now any sound that is played either stutters or there is static. also, for the usb sound card, in volume control the master volume will not stay linked, the left
[04:40] <umer>  channel goes all they way down to 0 whenever i try to increase or decrease the volume
[04:40] <umer> i was wondering if someone would be able to help me out
[04:41] <jsubl2> noah_, np.. good luck
[04:41] <SoBoredLol> ok time to reboot :)
[04:44] <umer> hello, is anyone able to help me out?
[04:45] <savvas> umer: cat /proc/asound/cards
[04:46] <umer>  0 [NVidia         ] : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
[04:46] <umer>                       HDA NVidia at 0xc0000000 irq 22
[04:46] <umer>  1 [MP3            ] : USB-Audio - Sound Blaster MP3+
[04:46] <umer>                       Creative Labs Sound Blaster MP3+ at usb-0000:00:0b.1-3.1, full speed
[04:47] <umer> savvas, thats the result i get when i do that
[04:47] <lee__> ok how do I get wrtie permissions?
[04:47] <Centaur5> Some point in time bluetooth has gotten screwed up and my laptop doesn't appear to see my bluetooth usb adapter.  What can I do?
[04:47] <fryguy> any way to get sound working with firefox/flash without having to close every other application using sound?
[04:47] <Psi-Jack> Okay. Got Evolution working. Heh
[04:48] <lee__> soome can you please tell me how I can get write permissions
[04:48] <savvas> umer: try this: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[04:48] <savvas> umer: any output?
[04:48] <Psi-Jack> Now, I just got 1 problem left. Since I enabled the Nvidia restricted drivers, Switching to tty1, or any text console... Blanks my screen, and powers down my monitor, instead of giving me a text console.
[04:48] <jsubl2> Psi-Jack, so what was the secret to fixing it
[04:48] <umer> savvas: no output
[04:48] <savvas> umer: ok now type alsamixer
[04:48] <savvas> umer: it should run alsamixer with no errors, right?
[04:49] <umer> savvas: it runs it with no errors
[04:49] <umer> card = hda nvidia
[04:49] <savvas> umer: press right arrow on your keyboard
[04:49] <Psi-Jack> jsubl2: I had to delete ~/.evolution and ~/.gconf/applications/evolution. AND THEN restart Gnome.
[04:49] <umer> chip= cx20549 (venice)
[04:49] <umer> okay?
[04:49] <umer> pressed right, now it selected pcm
[04:49] <savvas> umer: then press down or up arrow, see if the volume changes
[04:49] <umer> it does
[04:50] <savvas> umer: ok press Esc
[04:50] <umer> savvas: done
[04:50] <Psi-Jack> Anyone know about the video issue when switching to a text console?
[04:50] <savvas> umer: you use gnome/ubuntu or kde/kubuntu ?
[04:51] <umer> gnome/ubuntu
[04:51] <CheeseGardener> I restarted, and my open office still crashes when I go to print things in Gutsy.
[04:51] <jsubl2> Psi-Jack, i just did control-alt-f1 then ctrl-alt-f7 and it seemed fine
[04:51] <CheeseGardener> does anyone know what this problem could be?  Why open office is crashing when I go to print things?
[04:52] <kingrayray> if anybody recalls my X issues from before, a dpkg-reconfigure followed by a reboot seems to have resolved the situation
[04:52] <savvas> umer: ok close all your music apps, and after that open one and play an mp3 file or something
[04:52] <Psi-Jack> jsubl2: Hmmm. I do that, and the screen is so wacked out distorted and unsuable.
[04:52] <Psi-Jack> unusable.
[04:52] <Psi-Jack> And then the monitor turns off cause it's out of sync.
[04:53] <savvas> CheeseGardener: well I think a but report would be a good move: bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:53] <Creationist> Can I not install a 686 kernel from the repositores in Gutsy?
[04:53] <jsubl2> how about if you hit the auto adjust on the monitor when you are there
[04:53] <umer> savvas: its playing, however its using the usb soundcard, but the alsamixer was controlling the built in sound card
[04:53] <umer> savvas: and even the music it is playing, its staticcy
[04:53] <Creationist> I read a little tip that suggested doing that because it would support SMP and multi-threading CPUs
[04:53] <savvas> Creationist: -generic now
[04:55] <CheeseGardener> ok
[04:55] <Creationist> So what is the difference between the packages "linux-image" and "linux-image-generic"?
[04:56] <savvas> Creationist: no idea, I use generic :) I think the generic is there for people that were using -386 or other kernels
[04:56] <|neon|> can i install ubuntustudio-desktop under kubuntu and will it run ok
[04:57] <umer> savvas: anyother ideas?
[04:58] <savvas> umer: run the volume control from Applications > Sound & video
[04:58] <umer> theres no volume control there
[04:59] <kingrayray> hmm
[04:59] <kingrayray> suddenly most of my volume controls aren't working right
[04:59] <gregshallard> Hey guys.
[04:59] <umer> savvas: theres only echomixer envy24control hdspconf hdspmixer
[04:59] <umer> rmedegicontrol
[04:59] <umer> and the normal multimedia stuff
[04:59] <savvas> eh?
[04:59] <earlmred> bah
[04:59] <earlmred> swiftweasel keeps crashing
[05:00] <earlmred> i even removed my .mozilla folder
[05:00] <gregshallard> I just restarted my X and when now its halting at "Running Local Boot Scripts (etc/rc.local)"
[05:00] <savvas> umer: sudo apt-get install gnome-volume-manager
[05:00] <umer> savvas: apt-get says its already installed
[05:01] <savvas> earlmred: report a bug at bugs.ubuntu.com
[05:01] <savvas> or to swiftweasel's site directly
[05:01] <earlmred> savvas, i'm trying to disable all my extensions first, see if it continues
[05:01] <savvas> ah ok
[05:01] <nzero> savvas do you know how to open the fglrx control panel
[05:01] <savvas> umer: are you sure there's no "Volume Control"? :)
[05:02] <earlmred> wtf.
[05:02] <gregshallard> I just restarted my X and when now its halting at "Running Local Boot Scripts (etc/rc.local)"
[05:02] <umer> savvas: not in applications > sound and video there isnt
[05:02] <gregshallard> Any ideas?
[05:02] <earlmred> bookmark a page, it crashes ...
[05:02] <earlmred> try to save a file, crashes.
[05:02] <savvas> umer: ok type this: gnome-volume-control
[05:03] <savvas> nzero: no idea, I use nvidia, sorry :)
[05:03] <umer> savvas: that brings up volume control
[05:03] <nzero> anyone know what command to type to open the FGLRX control panel
[05:03] <savvas> nzero: try this: type "fglrx" (without quotes) and press tab twice, maybe it will autocomplete
[05:04] <savvas> umer: from the menu file > change device, change to hda intel
[05:04] <gregshallard> Anyone know?
[05:05] <umer> savvas: theres no hda intel, but there is hda nvidia
[05:05] <lee__> ok guys I need a simple yes or no
[05:05] <|neon|> what's the dddddifference between swiftweasel and swiftfox
[05:05] <savvas> umer: yes, try that
[05:05] <umer> okay, did that, now i see, hda nvidia (alsa mixer) with master, pcm, and ext mic
[05:06] <lee__> can you coppy and past a file from one hdd to another..if yes the how do I make it acceeable to do so?
[05:06] <savvas> umer: the master is not muted, is it?
[05:06] <gregshallard> Are there any bugs with Boot Scripts at start atm?
[05:06] <umer> savvas: no its not muted
[05:06] <letalis> well that sucked. i typed apt-get remove "kde4" and it decided to hose my entire kde installation.
[05:06] <letalis> LOL
[05:06] <letalis> oh well.
[05:07] <savvas> umer: yet it still doesn't play your audio files right?
[05:07] <nzero> does the ati control panel only work for the opensource drivers
[05:07] <savvas> umer: the thing is.. a lot of people complained about hda intel devices, some work and some don't :\
[05:08] <umer> savvas: yes, it still doesnt play the audio files. the hda nvidia is the onboard, that doesnt play anything, and the soundblaster mp3+ is the usb one, that plays, however its very staticcy
[05:08] <lee__> how do i get permissions for my second hdd?
[05:08] <savvas> I don't know if nvidia is using hda intel or not... but I just tried and it looks like it doesn't
[05:08] <lee__> how do i get permissions for my second hdd?
[05:09] <lee__> eh i just learned someting ne...use the arow it helps lol
[05:10] <umer> savvas: so right now im more or less sol with the onboard eh?
[05:10] <lee__> ok ....how can i save to my hdd?
[05:10] <lee__> secondary?
[05:10] <umer> savvas: would you know why the usb one is acting up though?
[05:10] <savvas> umer: nope, you could try file a bug about it at bugs.ubuntu.com
[05:11] <umer> hmm, alright
[05:11] <umer> thanks
[05:12] <lee__> guys i have this drive special so i can view flash using 64 bit....how do i get permisions?
[05:12] <lee__> or how do i delete the script?
[05:14] <bofh80> hi people, another superb release, when i turn on the visual effects, i permantly loose my window title boxes, ie with the Name of the APP, and the control buttons (minimize, close, etc) . Any ideas?
[05:14] <savvas> bofh80: did you install the drivers using the restricted drivers manager?
[05:15] <bofh80> savvas, i upgraded from 7.04. and no i don't believe i did
[05:16] <bofh80> savvas, i am using nvidia drivers tho
[05:16] <bofh80> savvas, the effects work, i just loose the menu title bar lol
[05:16] <lee__> how do i get permissions for my second hdd?
[05:17] <boselecta> lee__: o
[05:18] <boselecta> lee__: is your hard drive mounted? what do you mean you don't have permissions?
[05:18] <gregshallard> My  X won't load, its halting at "Running Local boot scrips" any help?
[05:18] <savvas> bofh80: from the menu: system > administration > restricted drivers manager
[05:19] <savvas> bofh80: does it say it's in use?
[05:19] <bofh80> savvas, yes
[05:19] <savvas> bofh80: what card?
[05:19] <savvas> your graphics card isn't supported probably
[05:19] <bofh80> geforce3 ti 200 - 128meg
[05:20] <savvas> hm.. dunno
[05:20] <Gunner_Sr> I have a dell notebook and I can here the HDD spin up and dow all the time. How can I stop it?
[05:20] <kingrayray> anybody else having weird volume issues as of today?
[05:20] <bofh80> savvas, again, the effects WORK FINE, just i loose the bar . lol.
[05:21] <savvas> bofh80: oh.. hit alt-f2 and try this: compiz --replace &
[05:21] <bofh80> savvas, i was hoping it was a simple gconf-editor fix, or a line the in xorg.conf :P
[07:22] (boselecta/#ubuntu+1) yo checkit i can print in gutsy
[07:22] <boselecta> still no realvideo
[07:23] <jack|ass> So I've now got two machines with nvidia cards that throw a signal 11 whenever I try to fire up a program that does OpenGL.  I thought this was some config problem with Nvidia's driver and xinerama, but now it's on my single-headed laptop.  Has anyone seen similar behavior?
[07:24] <boselecta> not me. The ASUS A2000 laptop hasn't got fancy graphics.
[07:25] <boselecta> i can open xine, but haven't tried playing anything.
[07:25] <boselecta> just a sec, i'll grab a DVD
[07:26] <jack|ass> boselecta: i just got an asus g1s. :)
[07:26] <boselecta> haha
[07:27] <cyclonut> <IP_ADDRESS> does better on mem usage too, it seems
[07:27] <cyclonut> though Ive read that 2,6,23 is far superior to 22
[07:27] <cyclonut> harmmm
[07:27] <boselecta> xine can play my Three's Company Season One DVD just fine.
[07:28] <boselecta> does that answer your question, kind of?
[07:28] <dfgas> !kde4
[07:28] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[07:28] <boselecta> it's the one with Normal Fell as Mr Roper
[07:29] <boselecta> "Well, I put up the clean curtains. I sure hope Jack likes them!"
[07:29] <boselecta> "Oh Crissy!"
[07:31] <boselecta> Mrs. Roper just made a crack about Mr. Roper sleeping in his armchair.
[07:31] <boselecta> har har!
[07:32] <boselecta> anyway, no Signal 11 in Xine for me...
[07:33] <dfgas> anyone using kde4?
[07:38] <ISS_Student> So when Gutsy final is released what will I have to do to update my rc to the final?
[07:39] <boselecta> there will probably be instructions on that when the time comes.
[07:39] <boselecta> but i expect the answer is one of "nothing" or "whatever you did to upgrade to rc, do it again."
[07:42] <vasuvi> ISS_Student: Probably nothing other than a sudo aptitude dist-upgrade; as long as your sources.list file is pointing towards gutsy, you're pretty much all set.
[07:42] <kurisutofuaa> what the command to upgrade to the RC?
[07:43] <vasuvi> kuristutofuaa: Just update all your packages, that's it.  You're already using the Gutsy repositories.  There is nothing special about "RC" except they thought it stable enough to put it out that day.
[07:43] <cdm10> In my clean install of Gutsy, samba doesn't work, and neither does a particular USB key that worked in Feisty.
[07:43] <rredd4> trying to install rc on my laptop.  I have 20g of unallocated space.  Gparted is, for the last 5 minutes, scanning all devices.   Is there another way to set the unallocated partition to ext3?
[07:44] <vasuvi> kuristutofuaa: well, that is assuming you're already running some form of Gutsy; if you're still on Feisty, you'll have to change your repository first
[07:44] <ISS_Student> I like the fact the in RC with the restricted drivers I can get my wireless to work however there are 2 issues that I hope are fixed before actual release. 1) the absence of a boot splash screen and 2 if installing the kde packages then trying to use kde it won't allow me into the desktop
[07:44] <kurisutofuaa> vasuvi: I have a fresh 7.04 install so I'm trying to get to the Gutsy
[07:44] <vasuvi> kuristutofuaa: ah, that's a different matter then ;)
[07:45] <vasuvi> kuristutofuaa: sudo kwrite /et
[07:45] <vasuvi> kuristutofuaa: sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:45] <vasuvi> kuristutofuaa: (or sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list if you're in GNOME)
[07:45] <cdm10> kurisutofuaa: I'd give the commands the other way, Gnome being the most common DE on Ubuntu :)
[07:46] <vasuvi> kuristutofuaa: then change all occurrences of feisty to gutsy
[07:46] <cdm10> vasuvi: Aren't you supposed to use update-manager? It does things that changing sources.list doesn't.
[07:46] <vasuvi> cdm10: It may be, but being a KDE-centric person myself, I do my part to bring balance to the DE Force ;)
[07:46] <cdm10> ha
[07:47] <ISS_Student_> I can't get kde to work in Gutsy
[07:47] <cdm10> vasuvi: you're really not supposed to do the changing sources.list and dist-upgrading thing. update-manager is the correct way of doing it.
[07:47] <theAtom> everytime I try to install something on 7.10. i get this error message:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40681/
[07:47] <vasuvi> cdm10: ah, that's possible.  I'm used to the way it works on Debian proper, though I'm using Gutsy right now to try it out
[07:47] <theAtom> can spmepme tell me why pls?
[07:48] <vasuvi> kurisutofuaa: ok, it sounds like cdm10 knows better than I do about this, listen to him ;)
[07:48] <cdm10> vasuvi: the right way to do it is on the wiki, I think you run "gksudo update-manager -c -d". The way you're recommending can break stuff.
[07:48] <kurisutofuaa> okay so which one should I do then? ^-^
[07:48] <ISS_Student_> theAtom are you using synaptics to install?
[07:48] <cdm10> vasuvi: although I don't know if that's true... it's what I heard, though.
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[07:50] (theAtom/#ubuntu+1) synaptic gives same errors about openoffice dependy problems
[07:50] (GNine/#ubuntu+1) samba works for printing on network printer connected to a windows machine
[07:50] (cdm10/#ubuntu+1) kurisutofuaa: still here? I found the correct way to do it.
[07:51] (kurisutofuaa/#ubuntu+1) cdm10: which way is that? ^-^
[07:51] (foxiness/#ubuntu+1) theAtom: is this problem present only with openoffice ?
[07:51] (ISS_Student/#ubuntu+1) Darn I had 2 copies of Xchat open
[07:51] (cdm10/#ubuntu+1) kurisutofuaa: If you've changed sources.list, change it back to what it used to be, first of all.
[07:51] (theAtom/#ubuntu+1) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40681/  <--- any1 know fix pls?
[07:52] <theAtom> foxiness, new 7.10 install, 10mins ago
[07:52] <kurisutofuaa> cdm10: haven't change it
[07:52] <kristjan_> is kde4 login-able now?
[07:52] <theAtom> foxiness, seems to be
[07:52] <theAtom> foxiness, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40681/
[07:52] <foxiness> theAtom: i see it :) coz that am asking u
[07:52] <cdm10> kurisutofuaa: ok, in that case, hit alt-f2, and put this in: < update-manager -d >
[07:52] <GNine> expect to reconfigure your xorg multiple times ...
[07:53] <boselecta> Singapore Airlines is receiving an A380 today!
[07:53] <cdm10> theAtom: try running < sudo aptitude update && sudo dpkg --configure -a >
[07:53] <cdm10> !offtopic | boselecta
[07:53] <ubotu> boselecta: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:53] <ISS_Student> I'm giving up on KDE for now
[07:53] <boselecta> sorry i thought the a380 ran linux
[07:54] <cdm10> boselecta: Well, if it does, it certainly doesn't run Ubuntu 7.10, which is the focus of this channel.
[07:54] <cdm10> kurisutofuaa: did you get that? did it work?
[07:54] <jack|ass> so has anyone else seen X / NVidia crashes in both gutsy and feisty?
[07:55] <theAtom> cdm10, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40683/
[07:55] <user_> I've used a few nvidia with no prob
[07:55] <ISS_Student> I haven't had any problems with Nvidia on my desktop system
[07:55] <theAtom> cdm10, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40683/    <-- gives errors
[07:55] <kurisutofuaa> cdm10: nope I think I have update the updater (lol) before it will work
[07:55] <ISS_Student> Now on a laptop with ATI I have the no boot splash screen problem
[07:55] <foxiness> theAtom: "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" i hope not what i know,if it break apt-get database u may need to reinstall ubuntu
[07:55] <cdm10> theAtom: it may be possible that they've broken stuff, and it'll be fixed soon.
[07:55] <theAtom> foxiness, its a new fresh install LOL
[07:56] <jack|ass> user_: I have one nvidia / gutsy system that works, one that doesn't, and a third that's nvidia / feisty / multiple heads that crashes the same way.
[07:56] <GNine> Nvidia runs fine on my machine.. used the nv drivers for xorg
[07:56] <theAtom> cdm10, impossible!  just installed it 10mins ago!  havent done anything
[07:56] <cdm10> foxiness: if you read his paste, you'd realize that his package database is not broken, and you should stick to what you know.
[07:56] <cdm10> theAtom: see my above message
[07:56] <jack|ass> I'm using the NVIDIA binaries, not the open source driver.
[07:56] <boselecta> what channel is Slackware 0.99pl18?
[07:56] <ISS_Student> I used the restricted mode drivers for my Nvidia
[07:56] <theAtom> cdm10, at end of install it says updates available and give me thr errors
[07:56] <cdm10> kurisutofuaa: try alt-f2, then < update-manager -c -d >
[07:57] <foxiness> cdm10: k go ahead
[07:57] <theAtom> cdm10, OO problem! how I totally remove OO?
[07:57] <cdm10> theAtom: just leave it alone, wait a day or two, and try updating again.
[07:57] <cdm10> theAtom: they may have fixed the packages by then if it's on Ubuntu's end.
[07:57] <theAtom> ok
[07:57] <theAtom> cheers
[07:57] <kurisutofuaa> cdm10: now i see it ^_^
[07:57] <ISS_Student> I think from now till release date there will be plenty of updates
[07:59] <theAtom> jow I install Opera?
[07:59] <cdm10> theAtom: http://www.opera.com/download/
[07:59] <gregshallard> Hey, just wondering which confile I need to delete to  reset defaults in compiz fusion
[08:00] <KenSentMe> !opera
[08:00] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[08:00] <GNine> !compiz
[08:00] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:00] <theAtom> cdm10, ok thanks
[08:00] <KenSentMe> theAtom, see above message
[08:00] <cdm10> theAtom: although it says the most recent version is for 6.10... it should work, though.
[08:00] <cdm10> theAtom: never mind!
[08:00] <cdm10> theAtom: look for it in add/remove.
[08:00] <user_> ANyone opera in gutsy yet?
[08:01] <cdm10> user_: it's in add/remove, it should work.
[08:01] <user_> Is it in synaptic now?
[08:01] <theAtom> wont allow me to tremove openoffice :(
[08:01] <ISS_Student> How can I test to see if flash is installed and working?
[08:01] <cdm10> user_: it's in add/remove, but I don't think it's in synaptic.
[08:01] <cdm10> user_: go to youtube or something
[08:01] <KenSentMe> ISS_Student, open a flash website?
[08:01] <boselecta> um. go to a page that uses flash?
[08:01] <cdm10> theAtom: have you been listening to me? Don't uninstall openoffice.
[08:01] <user_> youtube = flash
[08:01] <cdm10> theAtom: Just wait a few days and see if they've fixed the packages.
[08:01] <GNine> why would you want to anyway?
[08:02] <theAtom> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40684/   <--- Ubuntu refuses to remove openoffice!  any ideas why?
[08:03] <theAtom> cdm10, ok
[08:03] <cdm10> theAtom: would you just listen to me??
[08:03] <theAtom> understood
[08:03] <theAtom> i did
[08:03] <theAtom> read it after
[08:03] <theAtom> ill wait
[08:03] <GNine> it probably dont like you theAtom .. deal with it
[08:03] <cdm10> theAtom: just because it breaks an update doesn't mean you should, or can, try to remove it.
[08:03] <theAtom> GNine, no need to troll
[08:03] <GNine> no need to bs either
[08:03] <cdm10> theAtom: you're running a prerelease OS, it's going to have issues, best to just wait the repositories out.
[08:04] <theAtom> cdm10, wait till 28th u mean?
[08:04] <foxiness> cdm10: if hi can update ;)
[08:04] <boselecta> i ran OOo the other night.
[08:04] <boselecta> it worked.
[08:04] <cdm10> theAtom: not necessarily, they may fix it before then.
[08:05] <theAtom> ok
[08:05] <theAtom> ill wait
[08:05] <cdm10> theAtom: also, what are you doing running Gutsy when you don't know anything about APT? There used to be a message in the topic warning people not to run it if they didn't know APT...
[08:05] <GNine> exactly..
[08:05] <cdm10> I suppose, since it's RC, they figured that the package maintainers wouldn't break anything...
[08:05] <foxiness> theAtom: if this problem still present u can not do anything from apt-get install remove update upgrade "ur system broken"
[08:06] <theAtom> cdm10, LOL!  it happened at NEW install!  nothing was done by me
[08:06] <foxiness> theAtom: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) "use google to know what i mean"
[08:06] <user_> Anyone else just have an update notification?
[08:06] <theAtom> cdm10, it installed freshly! then rebooted. then said updates available. I said update, and it gave the errors
[08:06] <cypherdelic> pkgsel (0.13ubuntu3) UNRELEASED; urgency=low <--- how to install that package
[08:06] <cdm10> theAtom: I realize that, but my question was, what do you think you're doing running Gutsy before it's released when you don't know about APT?
[08:06] <GNine> sometimes you lose.. am pretty sure cdm10 didnt have an issue.. neither did i...
[08:06] <theAtom> cdm10, Define APT
[08:07] <cdm10> theAtom: there's your problem.
[08:07] <theAtom> LOL
[08:07] <boselecta> not me. my system is up to date
[08:07] <theAtom> cdm10, we not all as educated and wise as you
[08:07] <GNine> and then you wanna talk about trolls , theAtom
[08:07] <cdm10> user_: yes, and since it seems to have broken theAtom's system, I'd wait a few days.
[08:07] <theAtom> anyway pizza is here
[08:07] <theAtom> :)
[08:07] <cdm10> foxiness: yes, that can mean that your database is broken and APT is screwed, but IN THIS CASE it does not.
[08:07] <theAtom> going to stuff my face
[08:07] <user_> HA not too scared of the breakage.
[08:07] <theAtom> bye :)
[08:07] <theAtom> cheers all
[08:07] <boselecta> gnight
[08:08] <ISS_Student> later all time for me to get some sleep
[08:08] <GNine> troll
[08:08] <cdm10> The fact is, if you don't know what APT is, you should wait until release... there were multiple messages about that in the topic before, but they've been removed.
[08:08] <cdm10> GNine: Me, a troll?
[08:08] <user_> Been running Gutsy since tribe 5 and had no probs
[08:08] <GNine> not you ..
[08:08] <cdm10> user_: same here, but that's because I know what I'm doing, and I know what APT is.
[08:08] <boselecta> my only issue is the lack of real video
[08:08] <cdm10> GNine: he's not a troll, just badly informed.
[08:08] <user_> Yeah, apt is very usefull
[08:09] <rredd4> how do make a unallocated partition ext3 using the gutsy live cd?
[08:09] <cypherdelic>  Does somebody know how to fix encrypted boot on LVM to spawn BusyBox???
[08:09] <cypherdelic>  i always need to type "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda3 system"
[08:09] <cypherdelic>  and then exit, then it asks me for the passphrase for the two containing partitions right
[08:09] <GNine> he started to sound like so.. am short tempered right now ...
[08:09] <GNine> :-P
[08:09] <cdm10> rredd4: there's no such thing as an "unallocated partition." It's called unallocated space, and yes, you can format it into an ext3 partition.
[08:09] <rredd4> ow please
[08:09] <rredd4> how
[08:09] <cdm10> rredd4: just go to System>Administration>GNOME Partition Editor, select your hard drive, and click New Partition.
[08:10] <user_> rredd4 choose your own partition scheem in the install , it's the last one on the partition option
[08:10] <GNine> !gparted
[08:10] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:10] <cdm10> rredd4: However, if you already have 4 partitions, you won't be able to create any more partitions.
[08:10] <boselecta> does 7.10 come with that video of Nelson Mandela?
[08:10] <rredd4> cdm10  i have 4
[08:10] <user_> or gparted but either way you will have to uncheck use entire disk.
[08:10] <rredd4> :(
[08:10] <GNine> interesting factoid , cdm10
[08:10] <cdm10> boselecta: yes
[08:10] <cdm10> rredd4: then you're sorta screwed
[08:10] <user_> You're full on partitions if they are all PRIMARY
[08:11] <cdm10> rredd4: if you have an extended partition, you can create a new partition inside it.
[08:11] <cdm10> rredd4: but if you don't, I'm not sure there's a way to create one and move an existing partition into it... you may have to delete a partition.
[08:11] <user_> You can use Gparted to add to one of those if there is free space. cmd10 is right on
[08:11] <boselecta> what directory is it in?
[08:11] <cdm10> directory?
[08:11] <boselecta> the video
[08:12] <GNine> what is a logical partition.. (and not in the windows way)  ?
[08:12] <GNine> :-P
[08:12] <rredd4> cdm10  i tried to rejoin the unallocated with the old one, could not see what to click to apply it
[08:12] <cdm10> boselecta: examples
[08:12] <boselecta> thx
[08:12] <cdm10> GNine: A logical partition is a partition within an extended partition
[08:12] <cdm10> rredd4: rejoin? you mean grow the old one to take up the space?
[08:12] <rredd4> yeah, put it back where it was
[08:13] <GNine> right
[08:13] <cdm10> Anyway, I'm off to bed
[08:13] <user_> Gnine do you have some free space on an existing partition to move some data and destroy a partition?
[08:13] <boselecta> gnight
[08:14] <GNine> thats what you consult gparted for
[08:14] <GNine> or whatever partitioning program of your choice
[08:14] <user_> You can create an extended in place for the 4th part and since it is extended type you can add many more logical type partitions into that extended.
[08:15] <rredd4> the other 3 partitions are being used
[08:15] <user_> being used = full ??
[08:16] <san> ubuntu 7.10 didn't detect the monitor correct on my notebook.. but I have no clue what type of monitor it is.. now I have a 1024x768 desktop. Any suggestions?
[08:16] <rredd4> no
[08:16] <user_> You could pick the smaller and move its data onto another partition
[08:17] <rredd4> GParted takes forever to scan devices.. I have waited about 10 minutes.  Booted from gutsy cd
[08:17] <GNine> !xorg
[08:17] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:17] <user_> then destroy it and create that extended to allow you to create more partitions and get over the 4 primary limit
[08:17] <user_> takes a while in live boot cd I know
[08:17] <rredd4> ok, waiting for gparted......
[08:18] <rredd4> i booted gparted cd.. was faster.  why is gutsy cd longer?
[08:18] <GNine> live cd is not as efficient .. bear in mind it is for troubleshooting
[08:18] <user_> Let that run in the background. Do you have the other partitions mounted?
[08:19] <user_> Live cd uses a lot of ram to run.
[08:19] <rredd4> whatever gutsy mounts...?
[08:19] <GNine> live cd depends on your RAM to run..
[08:19] <rredd4> I have 512Mb
[08:19] <user_> errr I think you can tell what your mounts are in gparted.
[08:20] <Quozl> 7.10 RC, PS/2 mouse, USB keyboard, mouse works in Live CD mode but after install mouse does not move.  Ideas?
[08:20] <GNine> that is barely good enough , rredd4
[08:20] <rredd4> whenever it is done scanning it... lol
[08:20] <user_> sure
[08:20] <rredd4> GNine ??
[08:20] <user_> 512 barely
[08:21] <rredd4> ok
[08:21] <rredd4> its the max for tis laptop
[08:21] <rredd4> this
[08:21] <GNine> you should try Xubuntu for it
[08:21] <user_> work much better on install, same issue installing xubuntu on gf's laptop
[08:22] <user_> partition resize must have taken an hour or better but it crunched away and worked. 512 ram on it too
[08:22] <GNine> i have plenty of juice to run kde or gnome yet am running xubuntu .. very much pleased .. but then again , am a minimalist
[08:22] <rredd4> maybe I should boot the gparted cd.. its faster
[08:23] <user_> I only added more than 512 to be able to run more vmware machines
[08:23] <rredd4> can i run vmware with xubuntu?
[08:24] <user_> as far as i know.
[08:24] <user_> I don't run vm's on the xubuntu machine
[08:24] <user_> another box
[08:24] <rredd4> wanted to run windoze in vmware so I can boot ubuntu and use windoze when I want without rebooting
[08:25] <rredd4> vmware server that is
[08:25] <GNine> i dont run vm .. cant help you there.. but i dont think there should be any trouble ..
[08:25] <user_> it works well for that, and with that snapshot feature.... instant rollback
[08:26] <rredd4> rebooting to use the gparted cd..
[08:27] <user_> gparted cd ?
[08:27] <rredd4> yup
[08:27] <user_> didn't know it was avail by itself
[08:27] <rredd4> boots too
[08:28] <user_> I usually use it in whatever linux live boot I am using
[08:28] <rredd4> not gutsy....  lol
[08:28] <user_> install it
[08:28] <rredd4> zzzzzzzzzzzzz
[08:29] <user_> package manager and search gparted
[08:29] <rredd4> i was, but I can't do anything with the unallocated
[08:29] <rredd4> an thats where i want gutsy to go
[08:30] <user_> hmmm maybe a gparted based disk would be faster without live cd in ram. Got a link to that gparted cd ?
[08:30] <user_> Probably something I should have known before now
[08:30] <san> GNine: tnx for the link but that doesn't help me much.. I just have no clue what my monitor is on this notebook. And besides the xorg.conf has a habbit to have multiple entries for device, screen and monitor?!
[08:30] <rredd4> user_  looking, I got it a while ago
[08:30] <GNine> am no expert but .. i dont think gutsy is the best thing for 512mb max RAM
[08:30] <rredd4> brb
[08:31] <rredd4> GNine, even with xubuntu?
[08:32] <quannum> guys, just installed gutsy on my macbook pro, and hasn't picked up wireless. i read madwifi was running out-of-the-box. any pointers on what i should be doing to make it work?
[08:32] <GNine> right now my system got 1gb ram on a 2ghz proc.  memory used at 432mb (active)
[08:32] <user_> 512 whizzed compiz around ok for me, but forgit it with 12 programs open and 30 browser tabs
[08:32] <rredd4> user_  http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:32] <user_> thanks for the link rredd
[08:32] <rredd4> yw
[08:33] <rredd4> i just googled gparted live cd
[08:33] <SkinnyPuppy34> My usual login
[08:33] <rredd4> ok, gparted is up and i grew hda1
[08:34] <SkinnyPuppy34> brb reboot after the update
[08:34] <rredd4> now, I click on hda1 and resize?
[08:34] <earlmred> hmm
[08:34] <rredd4> I have 69gigs
[08:34] <earlmred> another kernel update.
[08:35] <GNine> when reconfiguring X always choose the "automatic" setting.. it should detect your monitor. if it doesnt then .. check your manufacturer and choose your poison
[08:35] <earlmred> .43 to .46
[08:35] <SkinnyPuppy34> what is on hda1?
[08:35] <rredd4> sda1
[08:35] <GNine> sata , yay
[08:35] <rredd4> hda1 is my ide hd
[08:35] <GNine> on 512.. laptop.. interesting
[08:36] <rredd4> sda is what gutsy calls all hd's
[08:36] <rredd4> even if they are hda's
[08:36] <SkinnyPuppy34> I'd noticed that
[08:36] <rredd4> now, I click on hda1 and resize?  <---
[08:36] <GNine> well.. looks like you know plenty.. i feel like your done already..
[08:37] <SkinnyPuppy34> what is currently on hda1?
[08:37] <rredd4> xp
[08:37] <rredd4> i mean k
[08:37] <earlmred> wow, a full update to the kernel ...
[08:37] <rredd4> 2k
[08:37] <earlmred> just because of some sparc changes?
[08:37] <earlmred> that's ridiculous
[08:37] <SkinnyPuppy34> Lets see ... what are your other three partitions?
[08:37] <san> GNine: tnx.. will try that as a final option...
[08:38] <rredd4> swap, another flavor of linux
[08:38] <GNine> c'mon.. i like my swap..
[08:38] <GNine> (i like that its never used )
[08:39] <GNine> :-P
[08:39] <SkinnyPuppy34> what partition are you planning on destroying? One will have to go so you can create an extended
[08:39] <SkinnyPuppy34> to regain that other free space
[08:39] <GNine> oh jeez.. do not even dare touching that swap..
[08:39] <SkinnyPuppy34> no joke about that
[08:39] <rredd4> extended
[08:40] <rredd4> GNine  I won't
[08:40] <rredd4> using hda1 free space
[08:40] <GNine> even with one gig of ram i feel cozy with my swap
[08:40] <GNine> heh
[08:40] <SkinnyPuppy34> extended is a what lets you get more than 4 partitions
[08:41] <SkinnyPuppy34> 4primary is the limit, but an extended type can allow you to add more partitions into it
[08:41] <rredd4> SkinnyPuppy34  how can i use free space
[08:42] <rredd4> click on hda1 and resize??
[08:42] <GNine> alright.. space management 101.  a 40gig partition is a "good" one ..
[08:42] <SkinnyPuppy34> rredd take a few minutes and read this with regards to extended.
[08:42] <SkinnyPuppy34> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_(computing)
[08:43] <rredd4> ty
[08:43] <rredd4> hope it talks about gparted....
[08:43] <xnitex> hey all
[08:43] <xnitex> what command is it to search the apt-cache in term again?
[08:44] <xnitex> i need to search for libdbus-1-2
[08:44] <xnitex> ?
[08:44] <rredd4> apt-cache search libdus.............
[08:46] <xnitex> thank u
[08:46] <SkinnyPuppy34> rredd4 just a good description of extended vs primary partitions. You can't create a new partition to use gutsy on,and all you can do with the free space is to join it onto an existing part
[08:47] <SkinnyPuppy34> rebooting
[08:51] <SkinnyPuppy34> rredd4: that wiki make sense of the partition differences?
[08:55] <xnitex> (12:47:40 AM) SkinnyPuppy34 left the room (quit: Remote closed the connection).
[08:55] <xnitex> (12:47:48 AM) rredd4 left the room (quit: "Leaving").
[08:55] <xnitex> :|
[08:56] <SkinnyPuppy34> gotcha
[08:57] <duccio> hi all...i try to update my Kubuntu Feisty to Gutsy RC but...
[08:57] <duccio> i' can't...the message of error is 'can't install kubuntu-desktop'
[08:57] <xnitex> sucks for u :\
[08:58] <duccio> i've a Kubuntu Feisty amd64
[08:58] <duccio> installed
[08:58] <SkinnyPuppy34> Is gutsy going to be the next long term support?
[08:58] <duccio> someone can help me?
[08:58] <xnitex> no
[08:59] <xnitex> actually yes, google and wiki and ubuntu forums
[08:59] <xnitex> :]
[08:59] <kristjan_> duccio: you came in bad time of day, nobody is around
[08:59] <SkinnyPuppy34> nightowlz
[09:00] <SkinnyPuppy34> more people in /ubuntu
[09:02] <xnitex> wanna screen shot trade anyone? skinnypuppy?
[09:02] <xnitex> :]
[09:03] <SkinnyPuppy34> plain brown
[09:03] <xnitex> http://i21.tinypic.com/30sezox.png
[09:04] <SkinnyPuppy34> Grin for the misfits !
[09:04] <xnitex> :]  yeah lets have sex because of it
[09:04] <xnitex> hahaha
[09:04] <nickrud> !enter | xnitex and duccio
[09:04] <ubotu> xnitex and duccio: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:06] <FunnyLookinHat> For some reason openoffice dialog boxes go fullscreen for me... like for exporting a PDF or something
[09:06] <SkinnyPuppy34> This ones for you xnitex
[09:06] <SkinnyPuppy34> http://youtube.com/watch?v=QVfeLavkFso
[09:06] <nickrud> duccio: if you do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop in a terminal, and pastebin the error ...
[09:08] <xnitex> skinnypuppy34: i tried to pm u on here i'm using pidgin 2.2.1 though i dont know if you got it perhaps we could talk more i see with ur host name that we are state neighbors, perhaps could keep in touch and remain free source together, since I dont know many people that do? :D
[09:09] <SkinnyPuppy34> I'm on here 5 days a week atleast just look for me
[09:09] <duccio> i'm italian...this is the message of error:
[09:09] <duccio> I seguenti pacchetti hanno dipendenze non soddisfatte:
[09:09] <duccio>   kubuntu-desktop: Dipende: libqt-perl ma non sta per essere installato
[09:09] <duccio> E: Pacchetto non integro
[09:11] <nickrud> duccio: ok, it's saying that libqt-perl is not installable? available?
[09:12] <duccio> ok...i've installed libqt-perl and now it works
[09:12] <duccio> thank a lot
[09:12] <nickrud> ok!
[09:12] <boselecta> um i think youtube just hung up firefox
[09:12] <SkinnyPuppy34> xnitex: how did  you get your pannels narrower than the screen?
[09:12] <xnitex> right click on the edge
[09:13] <xnitex> "properties" til u see the one that says expand
[09:13] <xnitex> uncheck it
[09:14] <boselecta> hm on restarting it it's OK
[09:14] <SkinnyPuppy34> that was easy thx
[09:15] <cypherdelic> hello ive got a problem binding VBox to a tap0 bridge
[09:15] <cypherdelic>  the VM cancels booting immediately after Starting
[09:15] <cypherdelic>  the settings were  Interface: tap0, start: /home/cypherdelic/Scripts/tap0up.sh end: /home/cypherelic/Scripts/tap0down.sh
[09:15] <cypherdelic>  without Networkadapter mashine boots up normally
[09:15] <cypherdelic>  the scripts look like this
[09:15] <cypherdelic>  #!/bin/sh
[09:15] <cypherdelic>  /sbin/ifconfig $2 up
[09:15] <cypherdelic>  /usr/sbin/brctl addif br0 $2
[09:15] <cypherdelic>  please help
[09:16] <SkinnyPuppy34> That solved a problem for me, programs opened with their titlebar behind the pannel and I had to right click max or alt+mouse to move it from behind the pannel
[09:16] <xnitex> SkinnyPuppy34: <3 :]  no problem
[09:17] <cdm10> The gutsy cd has Wubi on it?
[09:17] <cdm10> I just noticed that.
[09:17] <cdm10> That's sorta weird.
[09:18] <xnitex> !Wubi
[09:18] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[09:18] <SkinnyPuppy34> xnitex are you using any widgets with gutsy?
[09:18] <xnitex> hahaha
[09:18] <cdm10> it seems to be customized for the LiveCD...
[09:18] <xnitex> SkinnyPuppy34: no not yet, i'd like to, dont know which engine/prog i should use
[09:18] <SkinnyPuppy34> same here haven't yet on gutsy
[09:20] <kurisutofuaa> fetching 589 of 1014 packages  from a fresh install of 7.04 to 7.10
[09:20] <SkinnyPuppy34> xnitex: linuxcnc.org
[09:21] <kurisutofuaa> wow now I have to wonder how many more packages I will have to update after the restart
[09:23] <SkinnyPuppy34> I had to update two shortly after a update/reboot earlier
[09:23] <kurisutofuaa> lol
[09:24] <Geoffrey2> I'm just hoping the official release will work on my computer, as the RC won't...
[09:25] <kurisutofuaa> at-lest I average 105 kb/s on download
[09:25] <kurisutofuaa> so its not that bad
[09:27] <Geoffrey2> there seems to be a problem with the ATI SB600, causes Gutsy to lock up early in the boot process
[09:28] <quannum> anyone out there using gutsy and madwifi?
[09:38] <cdm10> Geoffrey2: Have you tried Alternate?
[10:10] <tech0007> is it safe to upgrade to GutsyRC?
[10:11] <WaltzingAlong> tech0007: some have done so without problems.
[10:11] <Ademan_> is there a .seen command or anything?
[10:11] <Ademan_> .seen mdz
[10:11] <Ademan_> guess not
[10:11] <Ademan_> i'm wondering when mdz was last around
[10:11] <cdm10> !seen mdz
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen mdz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <gutsyNL> hello testrunning gutsy
[10:11] <cdm10> @seen mdz
[10:12] <Ademan_> hello
[10:12] <gutsyNL> the startup sound seems to be missing, do you all have that?
[10:12] <saintdesy> can I ask a question?
[10:12] <gutsyNL> or is that default?
[10:12] <gutsyNL> no start up sound ...
[10:13] <Ademan_> gutsyNL: i'd welcome the change frankly :-)  but i'm not gonna upgrade to gutsy until release so i can't really help you
[10:13] <gutsyNL> hmm, i will check system settings to see if its there at all
[10:13] <Ademan_> gutsyNL: do other sounds play?
[10:13] <saintdesy> so I got a new monitor today and decided to jump on to Gusty a bit early because of the easier dual monitor setup
[10:14] <gutsyNL> oh yes sound works great, but no login sound
[10:14] <saintdesy> But is there a way to not have a single desktop span both monitors?
[10:14] <WaltzingAlong> !dualmonitors
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualmonitors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <tech0007> is there compiz support for via video?
[10:15] <saintdesy> Stuff looks pretty awful spanned over two different sized monitors
[10:15] <gutsyNL> hmm, strange its there, just did not hear it at bootup...
[10:15] <saintdesy> thanks. check it
[10:15] <saintdesy> err
[10:15] <saintdesy> checking it
[10:15] <gutsyNL>  ah well okey no problem i guess...
[10:16] <gutsyNL> going to test nvidia drivers install... see you all around..
[10:17] <saintdesy> My compiz install got boned to while I was at it
[10:17] <saintdesy> I had an emerald theme that went bye bye
[10:19] <tech0007> saintdesy...do u have via?
[10:20] <saintdesy> nvidia
[10:21] <saintdesy> ugh..looks like I'm going to have to go dicking around in my xorg.conf
[10:22] <tech0007> saintdesy....good for u
[10:22] <tech0007> saintdesy....i mean d nvidia card:-D
[10:23] <saintdesy> Yeah
[10:23] <saintdesy> It has saved me some trouble
[10:24] <saintdesy> ugh...never mind
[10:24] <saintdesy> Something else wrong now
[10:24] <saintdesy> "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server. "
[10:25] <saintdesy> Thats news to me
[10:26] <saintdesy> I wish I could downgrade. I have been at this for way too long
[10:27] <emanuelez> am i the only one facing problems with gdm? the system keeps telling me that the greeter application crashed. any hint?
[10:27] <saintdesy> gonna try something, brb
[10:27] <Eq|work> saintdesy : got nvidia-glx-new installed?
[10:28] <tech0007> saintdesy....that's a good question...how do we downgrade back to feisty?
[10:28] <Eq|work> tech0007 : you download the feisty installer, make a backup of your homedir, and install.
[10:29] <Eq|work> same downgrade path as with any distro.. or any os for that matter.
[10:29] <tech0007> Eq|work....no apt-get to downgrade?
[10:29] <xnitex> that would be too easy >.<
[10:30] <xnitex> XD
[10:30] <xnitex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYzGz3UkItw
[10:34] <saintdesy> yes, I do have nvidia-glx-new
[10:34] <saintdesy> and I just did something that stopped my icons and panels from appearing
[10:35] <saintdesy> I suppose that is what I get for listening to an error message
[10:36] <saintdesy> And it STILL says I am not using the nvidia X driver
[10:36] <saintdesy> Stupid nvidia settings
[10:37] <saintdesy> brb, reverting to backup xorg.conf
[10:45] <saintdesy> this is really making my head pop
[10:46] <chimaera> hi
[10:46] <gutsyNL> hello again
[10:46] <gutsyNL> the gnash - flash plugin installer cannot find the software in firefox ...
[10:47] <gutsyNL> is this again an known bug?
[10:47] <saintdesy> is there a way to force an install to go back through the detection/setup process without doing a tear-down?
[10:47] <chimaera> i'm experiencing hangs on shutdown. after the splash i get some networkmanager relates messages and then the box just sits there.
[10:48] <hetauma> morningz
[10:48] <chimaera> gutsyNL: installed the mozilla-plugin for gnash?
[10:48] <fritzs> How do I mount a NFS share in 7.10 using the GUI?
[10:49] <hetauma> any ideas why I can't set a framebuffer? I have tried many values even 769 which is 640x480 8bit and all I get is blank screen till X loads
[10:49] <gutsyNL> yes i treid gnash
[10:49] <hetauma> !framebuffer
[10:49] <ubotu> If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[10:49] <gutsyNL> but it failed to download , it say's
[10:49] <gutsyNL> cannot find the package
[10:49] <gutsyNL> then i treid flash, same thing
[10:50] <gutsyNL> i now manually installed it, but i hope they fix it before release
[10:52] <gutsyNL> oh   , its that late already...
[10:53] <gutsyNL> got to go to work, any way, please pass on the message gutsy rc1 , plugin of flash / gnash download did not work, could be temporary problem, due to servers offline..
[10:53] <gutsyNL> who knows...
[10:53] <gutsyNL> other wise the message wil be , manually install the plugin...
[10:54] <gutsyNL> got to run , see you all later ...this night
[10:54] <gutsyNL> bye for now
[10:58] <emanuelez> hello
[10:59] <emanuelez> i have an nvidia card and nvidia drivers running. still no desktop effects are available and when i try to turn them on it just tells me that they cannot be activated. any hint?
[11:01] <saintdesy> hmm, I read the answer to your problem about 7 hours ago, but my brain is so fried I can't remember it
[11:01] <emanuelez> saintdesy, :) monday morning uh?
[11:01] <hetauma> is there any known issues with framebuffer in gutsy?
[11:02] <saintdesy> Well, the middle of yesterday I borrrowed a monitor from someone
[11:02] <saintdesy> And then upgraded to make it "easy" to do dual head
[11:02] <saintdesy> Then I realized that the only dual-head types you could pick were mirroring, which is useless
[11:03] <albert23> hetauma: yes, there is
[11:03] <emanuelez> saintdesy, i'm having two monitors working fine here
[11:03] <saintdesy> Or spanning, which is making a giant blind spot
[11:03] <saintdesy> because one is way smaller than the other
[11:03] <albert23> hetauma: bug 129910
[11:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 129910 in initramfs-tools "tty[1-6]  are active but display nothing in Gutsy" [Critical,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129910
[11:03] <saintdesy> When you maximize something, does it use up both monitors?
[11:03] <hetauma> albert23, can u remember the bug report?
[11:04] <hetauma> albert23, thanx :D
[11:04] <emanuelez> saintdesy, nope, just one
[11:04] <saintdesy> I wish I were you
[11:05] <saintdesy> Did you have to manually rewrite your .conf file
[11:05] <saintdesy> ?
[11:06] <emanuelez> well... had some problems with gdm so i've been playing with xorg.conf a bit
[11:07] <arcticblue> On amd64 here and trying to do an "apt-get install mythtv-backend" and get this error: mythtv-backend: Depends: mythtv-common (= 0.20.2-0ubuntu10) but 0.20.2-0ubuntu9 is to be installed
[11:07] <saintdesy> I just want this to work, but in trying to make it work, I have pretty much ruined everything
[11:07] <arcticblue> Any ideas on how to fix this?
[11:09] <arcticblue> hmmm
[11:09] <arcticblue> Ok, how about this then...
[11:09] <arcticblue> Any idea when the 0.20.2-ubuntu10 package will be in the repository because I can't do anything with mythtv until it is.
[11:09] <bdgraue> if i try to start kde4beta3 in gutsy backports it give me an:  could not start kdestartupconfig, check your installation.  and after that it falls back to the login. i did all steps fond here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php  . what can be wrong there?
[11:10] <saintdesy> Now my icons wont show up, I can't see the stuff in my panels, the bottom panel dosen't exist, and everything is f*'n ugly. That, and my nvidia-settings keeps telling me I'm not using the driver when the Restricted Driver Manager tells me I am
[11:11] <arcticblue> well, looks like there are no answers here.  guess i'll have to go back to vista media center for the night and try again tomorrow
[11:12] <saintdesy> Yeah
[11:12] <saintdesy> I think that is a good idea
[11:12] <gunashekar> savvas: hi
[11:14] <saintdesy> If I burn my home folder to a DVD, reinstall and copy the folder back, is it going to break a bunch of stuff?
[11:14] <odzx> any one having problems with tildas screen turning white on gutsy with compiz?
[11:15] <saintdesy> Not I
[11:15] <jhaig> If I have raised a bug in lanchpad for Gutsy, will I be notified when anything is done with it?
[11:15] <xnitex> mtd : blow me
[11:15] <xnitex> XD
[11:15] <saintdesy> You will just get periodically annoying emails forever
[11:22] <horsnelm> hi I'm having sound problems (well I'm getting no sound actually) in gutsy. (snd_intel8x0, Intel ICH5). Any ideas how I can try to fix this
[11:22] <WaltzingAlong> aplay -l
[11:25] <horsnelm> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[11:25] <horsnelm> card 0: ICH5 [Intel ICH5] , device 0: Intel ICH [Intel ICH5]
[11:25] <horsnelm>   Subdevices: 1/1
[11:25] <horsnelm>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[11:25] <horsnelm> card 0: ICH5 [Intel ICH5] , device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel ICH5 - IEC958]
[11:25] <horsnelm>   Subdevices: 1/1
[11:25] <horsnelm>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[11:25] <horsnelm> (sorry for multiple posts)
[11:27] <WaltzingAlong> horsnelm: check the mixer settings that pcm and master are enabled and appropriately loud enough
[11:27] <horsnelm> WaltzingAlong: pcm and master are reporting 100% and not-muted in alsamixer
[11:27] <tekhawk> anyone have an idea where the default built in vnc server logs login request
[11:28] <tekhawk> the request made that would have made the pop up asking me if i want to let the user have access
[11:29] <tekhawk> the road running isp doesnt like screen shots to report abuse
[11:32] <hit> anyone using gftp here?
[11:34] <horsnelm> hit:yes I use gftp
[11:34] <hit> also with ssl?
[11:35] <horsnelm> no just regular ftp
[11:35] <hit> cannot get ssl to work
[11:36] <lachlan> can anybody help me set up compiz fusion in kubuntu?
[11:36] <tekhawk> hit: does the server support it and if so do you have the port they use for sftp
[11:36] <WaltzingAlong> !info filezilla3
[11:36] <ubotu> Package filezilla3 does not exist in gutsy
[11:37] <WaltzingAlong> !info filezilla
[11:37] <horsnelm> hit: sorry which server?
[11:37] <ubotu> filezilla: Port of the famous Win32 graphical FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 827 kB, installed size 2176 kB
[11:37] <hit> i can't get gftp's ssl support to work
[11:37] <horsnelm> hit: ok beyond me sorry, not used gftp for much more than uploading to my web server
[11:37] <hit> somewhere was told i need gftp-ssl package, but i can't see in anywhere
[11:37] <kidalabama> hello i have got problem
[11:38] <tekhawk> hit: are you sure the server supports sftp "proper term for ftp with ssl"
[11:38] <kidalabama> my mail box coming this message cd /usr/share/dtc/admin && nice -n+20 /usr/share/dtc/admin/rrdtool.sh >> /var/log/dtc.log
[11:38] <hit> tekhawk: FTPS Support unavailable since SSL support was not compiled in. Aborting connection.
[11:38] <hit> installed gftp from repo
[11:38] <kidalabama> message text is cd: 1: can't cd to /usr/share/dtc/admin
[11:39] <bdgraue> arcticblue: 0.20.2-0ubuntu10 are in the multiverse now
[11:40] <Trewas> hit: maybe ssl-support is disabled for a reason, afaik libssl has some funny licensing problems with gpl code... and ftps is not very widely used anyway
[11:40] <hit> Trewas: ok, thanks for hint
[11:40] <tekhawk> ive never seen a server support it on most smaller host
[11:40] <Trewas> tekhawk: sftp and ftps are separate
[11:40] <lachlan> in KDE in gutsy where do i turn on compiz fusion?
[11:40] <kidalabama> i am taking crontab
[11:41] <WaltzingAlong> lachlan: compiz --replace
[11:41] <bazhang> lachlan: have you installed Advanced Desktops Settings?
[11:41] <tekhawk> sftp i thought was secure ftp which is what ssl is with ftp
[11:41] <WaltzingAlong> lachlan: ccsm
[11:41] <lachlan> no its a clean install i have been told compiz works out of the box
[11:42] <WaltzingAlong> tekhawk: ftps is ssl'd ftp but sftp is ftp interface to ssh
[11:42] <tekhawk> lachlan: yes and no lol
[11:42] <bazhang> lachlan: that's in Ubuntu; in KDE you have to install a couple of packages then you're good to go.
[11:42] <tekhawk> WaltzingAlong: ty miss placed lettering i see thank you
[11:42] <lachlan> how do i install advanced desktop setting?
[11:42] <lachlan> which packages?
[11:42] <tekhawk> night all
[11:43] <WaltzingAlong> lachlan: ccsm
[11:43] <bazhang> lachlan: compiz-config-settings-manager compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[11:43] <attunix> How do I upgrade to Gutsy from Feisty?
[11:43] <lachlan> can you please give me the apt-get command to install them all?
[11:43] <bazhang> oops compizconfig (one word)
[11:44] <tekhawk> isnt upgrading to gutsy a bad idea last i checked the upgrade breaks alot of stuff
[11:44] <bazhang> preface those (and note my spelling error) sudo apt-get install .....
[11:45] <WaltzingAlong> !info compiz-kde | lachlan
[11:45] <ubotu> lachlan: compiz-kde: OpenGL window and compositing manager - KDE window decorator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 88 kB, installed size 228 kB
[11:45] <hit> i don't get it, why has gftp FTPS option, when it doesn't support it
[11:45] <tekhawk> hit: if that statment is true it could be  a planned feature
[11:46] <tekhawk> hit: or one you can enable tyhrough custom compiling that might break lisense
[11:46] <hit> i'll try to compile it from source
[11:46] <tekhawk> hit: to do with the ssl lib that was mentioned earlier
[11:46] <hit> tekhawk: ok
[11:47] <bazhang> lachlan: do you understand that?
[11:47] <lachlan> once all those packages are installed how do i turn it on
[11:47] <lachlan> yep i understand i just took time typing it in
[11:48] <tekhawk> lachlan: compiz --replace   will turn compiz on kwin --replace will turn it off in kde and metacity --replace for gnome
[11:49] <bazhang> you hit alt + f2  keys and type: compiz --replace &; probably a good idea to install emerald as well; then you can use that as the window decorator-- it's turned on with the same key combo: emerald --replace &
[11:49] <tekhawk> bazhang: is the & even needed when using a run dialog window
[11:50] <bazhang> tekhawk: just what I read, though I've seen it without as well :}
[11:50] <naught101> anyone here got any experience with knetworkmanager?
[11:50] <WaltzingAlong> !ask
[11:50] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:50] <lachlan> is there a comannd to see if its working?
[11:50] <naught101> true, sorry.
[11:51] <naught101> knetworkmanager keeps dieing, and turning off my wireless
[11:51] <naught101> light goes out, and then I have to run dhclient manually to get it to restart
[11:51] <bazhang> lachlan: once you have all the items installed and run the commands--then go to the manager advanced desktop effects settings, and choose the ones you wish.
[11:51] <tekhawk> bazhang: the & is just used to when running it in terminal to move it to a background status ( ;
[11:51] <naught101> ifup/down doesn't work, because
[11:52] <bazhang> tekhawk: thanks! good to know :}
[11:52] <naught101> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[11:52] <naught101> same for eth1
[11:52] <horsnelm> WaltzingAlong: any other ideas about my sound issues? I know occasionally ac97 quirk settings need to be changed?
[11:52] <naught101> I get this is the syslog too:
[11:52] <WaltzingAlong> horsnelm: i do not know. sorry
[11:52] <bazhang> naught101: that should be ifconfig, or iwconfig for wireless.
[11:53] <horsnelm> WaltzingAlong: thanks all the same, back to hunting
[11:53] <naught101> 15/10/07 19:46:07	naught-laptop	dhclient	There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.pid with pid 134519120
[11:53] <lachlan> where is the advaqnced dektop manager? also i have now lost the ability to close and move windows IE no frome
[11:53] <naught101> bazhang: instead of ifup?
[11:53] <WaltzingAlong> lachlan: start kwin
[11:53] <bazhang> lachlan: you need to install emerald
[11:53] <bazhang> then use the alt + f2 emerald --replace command
[11:54] <bazhang> naught101: yes; then sudo dhclient eth1 or wlan0 (or whatever the name).
[11:55] <naught101> bazhang: but does that explain why knetworkmanager keeps turning the wireless off?
[11:55] <naught101> it didn't do it in feisty
[11:55] <bazhang> naught101: are you connecting via ethernet or wireless?
[11:55] <naught101> wireless
[11:55] <naught101> altough it seems to kill the ethernet sometimes too
[11:56] <bazhang> naught101: do you have ethernet plugged in as well as trying to connect wirelessly?
[11:56] <naught101> bazhang: mostly no, then it dies, then I plug in ethernet as a temporaray thing, and it doesn't work
[11:57] <lachlan> the start kwin command isnt working
[11:57] <naught101> the wireless light goes off, and everything, and it seems that only dhclient makes it turn back on again
[11:57] <lachlan> it says job unknow
[11:57] <bazhang> lachlan: advanced desktop effects manager is in the KMenu, under the heading 'Settings'.
[11:57] <lachlan> *unknown
[11:57] <WaltzingAlong> lachlan: otherwise the command is ccsm
[11:58] <kidalabama> hello
[11:58] <kidalabama> i havegot problem
[11:58] <kidalabama>  Cron <root@alp2-laptop> cd /usr/share/dtc/admin && nice -n+20 /usr/share/dtc/admin/rrdtool.sh >> /var/log/dtc.log
[11:58] <kidalabama>  cd: 1: can't cd to /usr/share/dtc/admi
[11:58] <bazhang> naught101: are you using wireless in roaming mode, or to a fixed AP?
[11:58] <lachlan> ccsm talks about a sexy python package is that a easter egg?
[11:58] <naught101> bazhang: how do I tell?
[11:59] <bazhang> naught101: do you typically use wireless on your home network, or take it Starbucks, etc.
[11:59] <WaltzingAlong> lachlan: no
[11:59] <naught101> I use a lot of different networks, bazhang
[11:59] <naught101> I don't generally go to starbucks.
[11:59] <bazhang> naught101: then that would be roaming
[11:59] <naught101> ok
[11:59] <lachlan> how come i dont get window fromes when i use the start kwin command? should i try start ccsm?
[12:00] <hit> got gftp ssl support to work but it gave some errors now
[12:00] <naught101> lachlan: try kwin --replace
[12:00] <bazhang> lachlan: kwin turns compiz off
[12:00] <lachlan> woot i have frames again
[12:00] <bazhang> :}
[12:01] <lachlan> but compiz is anow off aye?
[12:01] <bazhang> lachlan: now would be a good time to install emerald: sudo apt-get install emerald
[12:01] <savvas> anyone tried kernel image 2.6.22-14.46?
[12:01] <hit> tekhawk: got same error, any ideas? http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-networking/13020-ssl-problems-gftp.html
[12:01] <lachlan> emerald is installed
[12:02] <lachlan> i did that when i had no frames
[12:02] <naught101> bazhang: what do I learn from the fact that I'm in roaming mode?
[12:02] <bazhang> lachlan: first use the alt + f2 command compiz --replace, followed by alt +f2 emerald --replace
[12:03] <bazhang> naught101: I would disable knetworkmanager; I have had tons of problems with it; much easier through the command line
[12:04] <lachlan> hmmm that doesnt seem to work
[12:04] <naught101> bazhang: now that I know the dhclient trick, I sort of agree, but that's not very ubuntu, is it ;)
[12:04] <naught101> do you think I should file a bug? especially if you've had similar problems?
[12:04] <savvas> hit: hit have you tried libssl0.9.7 ?
[12:05] <hit> savvas: 0.9.8
[12:05] <bazhang> lachlan: if you have all the necessary components installed, that will work, provided you have the proper driver installed for your video card that allows for 3D effects.
[12:05] <bazhang> naught101: :}
[12:05] <lachlan> i think i have the right driver installed
[12:05] <lachlan> glxgears works
[12:06] <bazhang> lachlan: is the effects manager in the settings sub-menu?
[12:06] <lachlan> yes
[12:07] <bazhang> lachlan: and you have all the items installed,  using the alt + f2 commands does nothing--have you brought up the settings manager and looked at the key bindings for each effect you want, and tried them out?
[12:09] <comicinker> I have a little problem with tracker: it cannot find anything, but it is all already indexed. can somebody help me?
[12:10] <lachlan_> im back my power cord fell out
[12:10] <WaltzingAlong> !torrent
[12:10] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[12:10] <bazhang> transmission is nice as well :}
[12:10] <theAtom> Is it possible to install Opera on Gutsy?
[12:11] <WaltzingAlong> theAtom: yes
[12:11] <theAtom> WaltzingAlong, how? :P
[12:11] <bazhang> from guty repos: opera - The Opera Web Browser
[12:11] <WaltzingAlong> !info opera
[12:11] <ubotu> Package opera does not exist in gutsy
[12:11] <theAtom> Package opera does not exist in gutsy
[12:11] <theAtom> i tried
[12:12] <bazhang> theAtom: have you enabled all the repositories, including the ones that have commercial software?
[12:12] <WaltzingAlong> theAtom: deb.opera.com
[12:12] <WaltzingAlong> or canonical                deb     http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu     gutsy   partner main
[12:12] <comicinker> can somebody help me with my tracker problem?
[12:13] <lachlan_> my god this is frustrating
[12:13] <bazhang> lachlan_: patience :} we' ll get this going...
[12:13] <WaltzingAlong> lachlan_: then make it rewarding
[12:13] <theAtom> WaltzingAlong, tick gutsy   partner main?
[12:13] <lachlan_> yeah
[12:14] <lachlan_> you guys have been great im very thankful
[12:14] <WaltzingAlong> lachlan_: sudo aptitude install compiz-kde compiz-plugins compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-core
[12:14] <bazhang> lachlan_: have you tried tha various key bindings in the manager?
[12:14] <theAtom> whats the gutsy   partner main?
[12:14] <lachlan_> i havent got compiz kde
[12:15] <bazhang> theAtom: that's the partner sites that allow for avoidance of distro breakers such as Automatix..:}
[12:15] <theAtom> WaltzingAlong, where Matilda?
[12:15] <lachlan_> know do you know any of the bindings?
[12:15] <theAtom> bazhang, what u mean?
[12:16] <bazhang> theAtom: no need to go outside of Gutsy anymore to get everything working
[12:16] <lachlan_> all those packages are instaled WaltzingAlong
[12:16] <bazhang> lachlan_: try the key bindings?
[12:16] <theAtom> YES works!  after I selected gutsy   partner main, Opera is now available
[12:16] <bazhang> :}
[12:16] <lachlan_> what are the key bindings?
[12:16] <theAtom> bazhang, so what else does "gutsy   partner main" make available?
[12:17] <bazhang> lachlan_: open the settings manager, then check for each one you want to enable
[12:17] <lachlan_> kk thx
[12:18] <bazhang> lachlan_: if you have scale effect enabled, you can choose to mouse over a corner (top left, top right, etc.), or you can invoke certain key combos to do it as well.
[12:19] <lachlan_> no they dont seem to be working
[12:19] <bazhang> theAtom: stuff so you can do everything necessary for the 'full' web experience--flash, mp3, videos, etc.
[12:19] <bazhang> lachlan_: which have you enabled?