[12:00] <Xamusk> germancito: see if you are in the admin group
[12:00] <alilo1> robotgeek: too much to ask , but how?
[12:00] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox,  try www.firefox.org
[12:00] <sampan> stevew, your life will be easier if you install xp first (and partition your xp section as large as you want and then leave the rest for ubuntu)
[12:00] <ompaul> SteveW, leave a partition for Ubuntu - I can say that I am using a lot of space in my little ubuntu only world on this box
[12:00] <Red-Sox> gnomefreak: thx
[12:00] <SteveW> mwe, i want to set up azureus on ub. maybe i'll go for 2gb swap, can't hurt
[12:00] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox,  i also made it clear i dont use it
[12:00] <Stormx2> Red-Sox: I just tried to install it, its baaad
[12:00] <gnomefreak> and i dont advise it
[12:00] <trappist> Xamusk: his sudo doesn't work because he borked his /etc/hosts.
[12:00] <Xamusk> germancito: if not, use your favorite user administration tool
[12:00] <mwe> SteveW: how much ram do you have?
[12:00] <Xamusk> trappist: ahm
[12:01] <ompaul> SteveW, install windows first  double your ram for swap up to 2G swap if you need more than that you are doing mad stuff
[12:01] <trappist> gnomefreak: what does your /etc/hosts look like now
[12:01] <gnomefreak> and as far as i know most people in here will not help with it cause its not part of linux
[12:01] <trappist> gnomefreak: the first line
[12:01] <alilo1> robotgeek: I found it ....haha ..........http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5283
[12:01] <gnomefreak> trappist,  how do i know i didnt change it
[12:01] <SteveW> mwe, 1gb, athlon xp 2400+ 1.8Ghz,
[12:01] <Xamusk> germancito: then check the sudoers file and see if the authentication is bound to the machine name
[12:01] <tyler> I have been trying to install the mp3 codec for the audio player but I keep getting an error.  Can anyone help?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> trappist,  i dont think you meant me
[12:01] <SEJeff> trappist: Reboot the computer. At the grub prompt, hit e. Then put init=/bin/bash at the end. That will boot you into single user mode with a rootshell so you can fix /etc/hosts
[12:01] <trappist> gnomefreak: oops that was supposed to be for what's-his-name
[12:01] <gnomefreak> lol trappist
[12:02] <mwe> SteveW: 2GB swap wont hurt. that should keep you really, really safe. I still think you could go for much less, though
[12:02] <germancito> Xamusk, I'm new to ubuntu and linux, and i don't really undestand everithing you tell me :P
[12:02] <trappist> SEJeff: you meant that for what's-his-name too :)
[12:02] <SEJeff> trappist: You should just need ' <IP_ADDRESS> localhost' in /etc/hosts
[12:02] <Red-Sox> Stormx2: why?
[12:02] <trappist> SEJeff: I know this, I'm trying to help germancito with it
[12:02] <gnomefreak> whats-his-name please stand up and tell trappist  your here
[12:02] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:02] <SEJeff> trappist: I've gotta leave, have fun :)
[12:02] <mwe> SteveW: how big is your hdd?
[12:02] <gnomefreak> 320 i thought he said
[12:03] <khermans> I am running Ubuntu Server 5.10, but it is not upgrading my linux-image-686??  Any ideas?
[12:03] <ompaul> mwe, he did say 320 this is the second time around the block on this one
[12:03] <SteveW> mwe, 320gb, but i need most of it for torrents - long story. should i put the torrents on a fat32 drive so i can download from win or ub?
[12:03] <andi5> reasking: maybe, i have a little bit lucky (;-)) this time -> i have four questions :) does -ubuntu in package versions imply real differences between debian<->ubuntu? how can i see these diffs? how can i ask for synchronization with debian packages (universe)? and: is this all answered in some faq (link would be great) :D
[12:03] <robotgeek> alilo1: it doesn't show me any wireless cards? have you pasted it correctly?
[12:03] <jojoman02> i just moved to linux, (i'm a newbie basically) and i don't know anything. i was wondering what was the purpose of compiling your own kernel? what is the use? advantages / disadvantages
[12:03] <ubuntu_> what can I do to check the validity of an NTFS formatted HDD?
[12:03] <germancito> trappist, what's that single user mode?
[12:03] <ubuntu_> (From Ubuntu, of course :)
[12:03] <khermans> I have tried aptitude update and upgrade, but it still holds back linux-image-686 and linux-testricted-modules-686!!
[12:03] <tyler> I just installed eclipse but the folder is on my Desktop.  Where should i install most files to?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> khermans,  what kernel are you running?
[12:04] <Xappe> darn, I can't set anything but letter keys as controls for tux racer (or planetpenguin racer)
[12:04] <robotgeek> khermans: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:04] <_jason> tyler, how did you install eclipse?
[12:04] <khermans> 2.6.10-9 i think?
[12:04] <Xappe> i want space and arrow keys
[12:04] <khermans> 2.6.12-9
[12:04] <gnomefreak> khermans, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will update kernel image
[12:04] <mwe> SteveW: yeah if you plan on sharing space between xp and linux, fat32 would be what you want. be aware that it can't handle files larger than 4GB though
[12:04] <khermans> gnomefreak: is that specific to Ubuntu-Server?
[12:04] <ompaul> andi5, the detas are real this is all in the developers faq and requesting for sync in universe is motu stuff have a look at #ubuntu-motu
[12:04] <gnomefreak> khermans,  no its debian commands
[12:04] <khermans> gnomefreak: i have done it without dist-upgrade on my personal workstations
[12:05] <Xamusk> germancito: # visudo -> see if there is a line like "%admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL", if your machine's name is there, change to the current one
[12:05] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> cannot determine eth dst addr   possibly missing arp cache entry
[12:05] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> what is this
[12:05] <khermans> gnomefreak: i am running 2.6.12-9
[12:05] <gnomefreak> khermans,  im just telling you how i got it
[12:05] <andi5> ompaul: thanks a lot :)
[12:05] <khermans> gnomefreak: thats weird because it usually updates without dist-upgrade
[12:05] <gnomefreak> khermans,  if it doesnt upgrade what do you lose 3 secs?
[12:05] <alilo1> robotgeek: yes I did, I actualy sent the out put to a file than pasted it as such  lspci -v | less
[12:05] <ompaul> andi5, what is it Mark S said "every debian developer is a ... :-)))))"
[12:05] <mwe> SteveW: or you could try your luck with captive-ntfs and use a shared ntfs partition. It should be stable, but I haven't used it myself
[12:05] <gnomefreak> khermans,  alot has been weird with this kernel
[12:05] <khermans> gnomefreak: yes, the point is WHY it doesnt work with normal upgrade
[12:06] <ompaul> andi5,  wrongly placed smiley (DOH -4)
[12:06] <germancito> Xamusk, I can't run visudo
[12:06] <alilo1> robotgeek: yes I did, I actualy sent the out put to a file than pasted it as such  lspci -v | less >file.txt
[12:06] <khermans> gnomefreak: which kernel?
[12:06] <khermans> gnomefreak: maybe i wont upgrade
[12:06] <robotgeek> alilo1: try 'lspci -v > pastebin' instead
[12:06] <gnomefreak> khermans, i dont know and the 12-10 kernel
[12:06] <germancito> Xamusk, visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[12:06] <ompaul> germancito, did you set a root password?
[12:06] <jojoman02> i just moved to linux, (i'm a newbie basically) and i don't know anything. i was wondering what was the purpose of compiling your own kernel? what is the use? advantages / disadvantages
[12:06] <mwe> germancito: sudo visudo
[12:06] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> cannot determine eth dst addr   possibly missing arp cache entry
[12:06] <Xamusk> germancito: that may explain a lot
[12:06] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> what is this
[12:06] <germancito> i can't use sudo
[12:06] <SteveW> so it sounds like i will do this: install win on 20 gb part, install ub on 18gb part + 2 gb swap. create 160gb ntfs and 120 fat32. sound ok?
[12:06] <khermans> jojoman02: to make it run with only the options you want
[12:06] <gnomefreak> khermans,  its fine now i think but i had grub issues and couldnt configure it so i reinstalled ubuntu and works fine now
[12:07] <Xamusk> germancito: did you execute it as root?
[12:07] <ompaul> jojoman02, if you don't know why don't try it yet - if you are going to try it do it with the ubuntu kernel sources
[12:07] <mwe> germancito: and you don't have access to the root account either?
[12:07] <khermans> jojoman02: most "friendly" kernel builds include almost everything so that you dont have to thin kabout what will work and what will not work
[12:07] <gnomefreak> germancito, why cant you use sudo
[12:07] <Xamusk> germancito: $ su
[12:07] <gnomefreak> no X
[12:07] <gnomefreak> no su in ubuntu
[12:07] <gnomefreak> its sudo
[12:07] <trappist> jojoman02: advantages: you can speed things up by getting rid of stuff you don't need and optimizing for your platform.  You can learn a lot.  Disadvantages: it takes time and the first few times you probably won't get it right.
[12:07] <germancito> sudo: unable to lookup "my name" via gethostbyname()
[12:07] <Xamusk> there's su too
[12:07] <tyler> _jason, i just did sudo tar xzvf 'eclipsepackage' on the desktop
[12:07] <khermans> jojoman02: once you understand the kernel options, you will know that you dont need everything -- and probably less than 10 percents of whats included
[12:07] <germancito> that's whatirit says
[12:07] <ompaul> germancito, did you set a root password?   germancito germancito !!
[12:07] <gnomefreak> Xamusk, not in the ubuntu install there is not
[12:07] <tyler> _jason, so now im left with the actual program in a folder on my desktop
[12:08] <khermans> jojoman02: you can really learn about this stuff by running gentoo
[12:08] <_jason> tyler, is there a reason you are not installing eclipse using synaptic?
[12:08] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Xamusk about root
[12:08] <alilo1> robotgeek: well I did , seen nothing, where am I suposed to look at then? please
[12:08] <tyler> _jason, im newbie.
[12:08] <mwe> SteveW: yeah, or you could go for no fat32 partition and set up captive-ntfs
[12:08] <trappist> khermans: what can you learn about the kernel on gentoo that you can't learn on ubuntu
[12:08] <tyler> _jason, how would i  exactly?
[12:08] <_jason> tyler, ubuntu has this wonderful program called synaptic where you can install thousands of packages easily.
[12:08] <germancito> ompaul, mi password is the root pasword but since i changed the hostname (like 5 minutes ago) i can't use sudo
[12:08] <heatxsink> damn has anyone else noticed that LIRC stopped working witht he latest kernel in Breezy?
[12:08] <robotgeek> alilo1: now copy the contents of the file "pastebin" (gedit pastebin) and put it in the pastebin
[12:08] <Xamusk> gnomefreak: ah, that... I just made a sudo passwd... well, that's not possible for him :-(
[12:08] <tyler> _jason, so i just find eclipse in there? how would it know i have the package?
[12:08] <khermans> trappist: im just saying that the Gentoo docs are more geared topward customization
[12:08] <_jason> tyler, system -> administration -> synaptic
[12:09] <SteveW> ntfs didn't work so hot pre fedora - 120 should be enough to share
[12:09] <khermans> trappist: in Ubuntu, thje motto is "Just Works"
[12:09] <ubuntu8600> Hey I got a question about persistence in breezy - will it save the snapshot as a single file without wiping out my whole thumb drive???
[12:09] <khermans> trappist: not, "Works most efficiently at the cost of barrier to entry"
[12:09] <tyler> _jason, so i need to DL again since i erased the original package, right?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> there is a reset password command but i cant remember what it is
[12:09] <_jason> tyler, you can search for eclipse.  However, to have access to all of the available packages in ubuntu you should enable the universe and mutliverse repos.  I will have ubotu send you a link.
[12:09] <khermans> gnomefreak: passwd
[12:09] <mwe> SteveW: it's your choice. from what I hear captive should be 100% safe though
[12:10] <gnomefreak> khermans, for sudo user not user
[12:10] <trappist> khermans: I think the difference is that gentoo forces you to learn it, while ubuntu (and most other distros) just provide the opportunity
[12:10] <tyler> _jason, oh ive got uni and multi
[12:10] <khermans> trappist: exactly
[12:10] <germancito> and I cant run any programs that use sudo (like synaptic)
[12:10] <khermans> trappist: thats a good way of looking at it
[12:10] <gnomefreak> gentoo forses you to learn during install :(
[12:10] <heatxsink> anyone?
[12:10] <_jason> tyler, all you do in synaptic is find what you want then right click and select install and then apply.  And everything is done for you.
[12:10] <SteveW> mwe, do they have a webpage i can check it out?
[12:10] <khermans> trappist: and we know from watching that movie with Tom Hanks going down on the airplane on the island, that if you need to, you will :-)
[12:10] <ompaul> germancito, that is not what I asked, did you explicitly set a root password, if you did not then I would reboot the box and (A) see if the problem goes away in which case you did not do damage (B) boot a second time if it is all screwed up and press escape while grub is booting and use the rescue kernel which will safely drop you on a command line as root - you can then undo the error
[12:10] <mwe> SteveW: the partions you suggested sound fine. just remember that fat32 can't handle files larger than 4GB
[12:10] <alilo1> robotgeek: done , this is the link : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5284
[12:11] <Xamusk> germancito: did you try to logoff or reboot?
[12:11] <tyler> _jason, i did a search for eclipse and like 10 things came up, which should i use?
[12:11] <khermans> tyler: search for eclipse on wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:11] <khermans> ther eis a howto
[12:11] <germancito> yes I reboot Xamusk
[12:11] <khermans> mwe: 2 GB
[12:12] <trappist> khermans: I prefer to learn things as I find the time and the motivation rather than as a barrier to entry, but obviously that's not everybody
[12:12] <mwe> khermans: what. I don't think so
[12:12] <siorai> http://www.cafepress.com/buy/Ubuntu/-/pv_design_details/pg_1/id_7980426/opt_/fpt_/c_/hlv_t
[12:12] <_jason> ubotu, tell tyler about eclipse
[12:12] <khermans> mwe: i think the max size is 2 GB isnt it?
[12:12] <mwe> no
[12:12] <carbanm> can i get some help?
[12:12] <mwe> 4GB
[12:12] <germancito> let me reboot again and see what happens
[12:12] <khermans> mwe: opr is thast ext3?
[12:12] <khermans> mwe: opr is thast ext2?
[12:12] <germancito> brb
[12:12] <trappist> germancito: rebooting won't fix it
[12:13] <_jason> tyler, according to that link, the package name is eclipse-jdt
[12:13] <khermans> maybe it is ext2 that has the 2GB limit
[12:13] <mwe> donno about ext2. ext3 should handle large files fine
[12:13] <germancito> ok
[12:13] <trappist> khermans: I don't think any modern linux filesystems have a 2gb limit
[12:13] <germancito> trappist, whta should I do?
[12:13] <ubuntu8600> Help me make this work please
[12:13] <robotgeek> alilo1: hmm, weird. that pretty much sums up my knowledge
[12:13] <carbanm> anyone here able to help me a bit? i want to know if its possible to install ubuntu from the live disk
[12:13] <trappist> germancito: reboot into single user mode to fix /etc/hosts
[12:13] <silent_scream> how can i open gconf from console??
[12:14] <Xamusk> trappist: but loggin off may fix... hostnames and some other info sometimes are kept till logoff
[12:14] <tyler> _jason, i hit install and its gonan install like 10 thing,s thats normal right?
[12:14] <SteveW> mwe, good point: win 20 / ub 20 / ntfs 220 / fat 60
[12:14] <_jason> tyler, yep
[12:14] <carbanm> anyone?
[12:14] <robotgeek> alilo1: sorry, but try asking around here again
[12:14] <ubuntu8600> Hey I got a question about persistence in breezy - will it save the snapshot as a single file without wiping out my whole thumb drive???
[12:14] <alilo1> robotgeek: is the driver I am looking for would be the right one...wouldn't be ipw2100 that I should be using
[12:15] <trappist> Xamusk: with a busted /etc/hosts his localhost ain't coming back
[12:15] <germancito> trappist, Im sorry, single user mode?
[12:15] <robotgeek> alilo1: i'm all confused :(
[12:15] <germancito> whay is that=
[12:15] <carbanm> can i install from the live disk?
[12:15] <alilo1> robotgeek: thank you som much for your help. you did  A LOT.
[12:15] <Delvien> Anyone know how to find out where the icons are located for an applet? isnt it something like sudo grep?
[12:15] <carbanm> if so can someone help me do it?
[12:15] <bur[n] er> anyone familiar with using evolution & exchange?
[12:15] <trappist> germancito: 17:01 <SEJeff> trappist: Reboot the computer. At the grub prompt, hit e. Then put init=/bin/bash at the end. That will boot you into single user mode with a rootshell so you can fix /etc/hosts
[12:16] <Xamusk> gotta go now, will ask my question again later
[12:16] <robotgeek> alilo1: well just drop by here later again, i guess
[12:16] <germancito> let me try
[12:16] <germancito> brb
[12:16] <alilo1> robotgeek: OK no worries
[12:17] <silent_scream> how can i open gconf from console???
[12:17] <mwe> SteveW: yeah. and if windows sucks all the 20GB windows space you could always use some of the large ntfs partition for additional software installation. I think I would personally choose not to make a fat partition, and make captive work, though
[12:17] <khermans> How can I reconfigure the exim4 package?  dpkg-reconfigure doesn't do anything
[12:17] <_jason> silent_scream, gconf-editor
[12:18] <SteveW> mwe, i'll try to get captive working, but failsafe
[12:18] <mwe> SteveW: yeah your suggestion sound sane enough
[12:18] <leagris> re
[12:18] <jojoman02> i cannot wait till GAIM 2.0 with googletalk voice support (the developer is working with google to impliment it)
[12:19] <jojoman02> google is trying to be as "open protocols" as possible
[12:19] <SEJeff> jojoman02: The developer isn't working with google. He is working *at* google :)
[12:19] <carbanm> ok, i have never used linux before, and i would like to install ubuntu, but  lost the installl cd and have the live cd here, can someone explain how this might be possible, if it is?
[12:19] <jojoman02> sorry, correction... AT:D
[12:19] <HrdwrBoB> carbanm: not possible currently, sorry
[12:19] <mwe> SteveW: with 18GB for ubuntu and not using it for your large downloads, you wont run out of space
[12:19] <recon0> does anyone know a good NES emulator in a debian p?ackage
[12:19] <carbanm> so im basically fucked?
[12:20] <_jason> carbanm, why don't you donwload the install cd?
[12:20] <carbanm> i have 128k
[12:20] <carbanm> how big is the install?
[12:20] <SteveW> mwe, ok sweet thanks for helping me with this ! !
[12:20] <trappist> carbanm: http://www.willmer.com/kb/2005/02/installing-ubuntu-hoary-from-livecd/
[12:20] <tyler> _jason, i just installed eclipse through the manager. where could i find it now?
[12:20] <mwe> SteveW: good luck
[12:21] <_jason> tyler, I haven't installed eclipse myself, is it in the app menu?  Maybe under "Programming"?  (That is where my IDE's show up)
[12:21] <recon0> where can i find a NES emulator?
[12:21] <germancito> trappist, i can't do that
[12:22] <dsas> recon0 i'm not sure if zsnes is packaged but it may be...
[12:22] <_jason> carbanm, 600mb, how long would that take?
[12:22] <ronald> hey
[12:22] <germancito> I tried but atherea re a lot of options when i hit 'e' trappist
[12:22] <recon0> dsas, isn't that a SNES emulator, not a NES emulator?
[12:22] <LjL> recon0: "apt-cache search snes", and if you don't find any, then you need to add universe and/or multiverse
[12:22] <carbanm> hmm, idk, i might as well do it, thx all
[12:22] <dsas> recon0: iirc it does both...could be wrong though.
[12:23] <tyler> _jason, yep! thats so cool!
[12:23] <_jason> carbanm, probably a little over a day, just leave it overnight for a few nights
[12:23] <LjL> recon0: apt-cache show nestra
[12:24] <_jason> tyler, it's not only easier but also safer since you don't ahve to worry about what you are about to install having any viruses like you do when you download from the internet on windows
[12:24] <tyler> _jason, ok, cool.
[12:25] <Leonik> I am currently running windows but I have linux on another partition of this hard drive.  If I delete these partitions from within windows without uninstalling linux, will this completely mess up my boot?  I use GRUB right now.
[12:25] <lsuactiafner> right i made a ubuntu install but the first time it booted it only worked in safe mode, i ran init 3 and it tried to do base-config and it bombed out
[12:26] <lsuactiafner> how do i get base-config to run again?/
[12:27] <mwe> Leonik: you can always boot the xp cd, press "r" and type fixmbr and fixboot and xp will boot again. that will get rid of grub too
[12:29] <BrownMan> Hey, does anyone know how to change your splash screen?
[12:29] <njan> I've installed totem-xine  and xine in ubuntu, and the video aspect ratio for anything played back in totem or xine appears to be squashed - anything 4:3 is being played back at widescreen ratio (a 970x754 video actually has a video window that if I screen shot it is about 970x550).. anyone any idea why?
[12:29] <Hybridx0> hi anyone?
[12:29] <navarone> Brownman>System/Preferences/SplashScreen should set you up
[12:29] <njan> Totem is even reporting the video size correctly in 'properties', it's just squishing the video (and I've tried playing with the aspect options in the dropdown)
[12:29] <doublea> Anyone now how to get dvd menus working? Preferably on mplayer.
[12:30] <lsuactiafner> after changing grub options do i need to run anything like i wouldve for lilo after editing lilo.conf?
[12:30] <BrownMan> i dont have SplashScreen
[12:30] <Hybridx0> which boot loader do you reccomend i use, grub or lilo with windows xp, and do i need to pass any commands?
[12:30] <Leonik> mwe so if i delete them right now its fine?  see i gave them too much space and im going to reinstall ubuntu in like 4 days or so... so it would just come up with GRUB and the only OS would be windows right?
[12:30] <Hybridx0> which boot loader do you reccomend i use, grub or lilo with windows xp, and do i need to pass any commands?
[12:30] <stpere> doublea, you need the dvdplay library
[12:30] <Leonik> hyrbidx0 grub is very smooth
[12:30] <JohnQPublic> Hey folks, I'm an ultra newbie with ubuntu.  I'm trying to install it into a triple boot system.  I'm getting GRUB error 17.  Anybody know of a fix?
[12:30] <Hybridx0> do i need to configure any options for winxp booting?
[12:31] <Leonik> are you in linux right now?
[12:31] <BrownMan> Navarone, I do not have SplashScreen in the preferences
[12:31] <now3d> gnomefreak: Hi
[12:31] <JohnQPublic> No, I'm at school on my windoze laptop
[12:31] <Hybridx0> will grub detect my winxp installation?
[12:31] <mustard5> JohnQPublic, this link will explain what the error is http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[12:31] <GNAM> auauauua
[12:31] <mwe> Leonik: afaik it should, but if for some reason you cant boot xp afterwards, you can just do what I suggested to get it up again
[12:31] <tyler> for some reason i keep getting errors when i try to install the mp3 codec.. any idea why?
[12:31] <_jason> Hybridx0, it should
[12:31] <Hybridx0> will grub detect my winxp installation?
[12:31] <Hybridx0> cool
[12:31] <_jason> Hybridx0, you don't need to repeat your questions
[12:32] <navarone> Brownman> are you using Breezy?
[12:32] <Hybridx0> sorry
[12:32] <Hybridx0> i will try with grub
[12:32] <JohnQPublic> Thanks Mustard!
[12:32] <Hybridx0> thanx :)
[12:32] <BrownMan> Navarone, I have no idea....I'll come back later gotta eat now.
[12:32] <GNAM> let me explain topic
[12:32] <_jason> Hybridx0, yw :D
[12:32] <GNAM> i must wait firefox 1.5 in dapper repo
[12:32] <GNAM> ... one week?
[12:33] <ProtectYaNeck> where can I find instructions do create a dual boot installation (xp/ubuntu)?
[12:33] <ProtectYaNeck> do = to
[12:33] <Leonik> sweet
[12:33] <Leonik> now i have another partition for my... "stuff"
[12:33] <Leonik> awesome thanks man
[12:33] <_jason> ubotu, tell ProtectYaNeck about dualboot
[12:33] <JohnQPublic> #exit
[12:33] <ProtectYaNeck> _jason, thank you
[12:33] <JohnQPublic> oops
[12:33] <_jason> ProtectYaNeck, yw
[12:33] <aaarg> protectyanecK: check out this movie...explain it all
[12:33] <aaarg> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=
[12:34] <navarone> Protect> this url gives you a rundown...it's fora  laptop install but should let you get idea http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~mjmille2/howtos/dual-boot-linux-and-windows/
[12:34] <aaarg> 12 mins....goes through whole thing
[12:34] <ProtectYaNeck> aaarg, haha, I just watched that, but I wanted something I could print
[12:34] <aaarg> heh, guess lots of people read digg
[12:34] <ProtectYaNeck> I just visited it for the first time today
[12:34] <maikeru> gonna go do homework...whee
[12:35] <navarone> CaptainMorgan> wipe your boots...lol
[12:35] <tyler> for some reason i keep getting errors when i try to install the mp3 codec.. any idea why?
[12:35] <_jason> tyler, what are the errors
[12:35] <mwe> tyler: what erros?
[12:36] <tyler> mwe, E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[12:36] <tyler> I have all repos installed.
[12:37] <tyler> Any clue why?
[12:37] <mwe> tyler: I don't know. I installed the w32codecs deb from the url suggested in !mp3, had no problems
[12:37] <mwe> !mp3
[12:37] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[12:37] <_jason> tyler, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:37] <tyler> !mp3
[12:37] <tyler> _jason, whats pastebin?
[12:37] <_jason> !pastebin
[12:37] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[12:38] <tyler> oh ok hang on
[12:38] <mwe> !codecs
[12:38] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[12:38] <now3d> mozilla-mailnews fix!  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mozilla/+bug/3250
[12:38] <_jason> mwe, !w32codecs is what you are looking for I believe but he asked about gstreamer package
[12:39] <tyler> gimme one second.  my FF is wayyyy slow for some reason in linux
[12:39] <mwe> _jason: yeah that's it
[12:40] <tyler> do you guys have any idea why my FF is so slow? random question sorry
[12:40] <levander> There's some way to boot into single user mode from the grub menu, like there used to be with lilo?
[12:40] <_jason> tyler, you can try disabling ipv6, that helped me.  Go to about:config and change network.dns.disableIPv6 to true
[12:40] <mwe> I didn't encounter any complaints installing the package from that url though
[12:41] <unistd> Where I found source repositories?
[12:41] <KasperTech> Hi. I need help with the ipw2200. It's extremely urgent.
[12:41] <_jason> ubotu, tell unistd about easysource
[12:41] <tyler> _jason, sorry, how do i go to about:config?
[12:42] <levander> tyler: in the firefox location box, just type it
[12:42] <tyler> oh
[12:42] <navarone> tyler> type "about:config" in firefox addressbar and scrool down to network.dns.disable.ipv6...right click it and toggle it to tru
[12:42] <KasperTech> The ipw2200 keeps restarting and killing my internet, how do I fix it?
[12:43] <tyler> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5285
[12:43] <logical_mark> Hey where is php.ini found?
[12:43] <_jason> tyler, you are missing multiverse, add multiverse to the end of lines 19 and 20
[12:43] <Hybridx0> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=536897#post536897
[12:43] <silent_scream> is there any command from console that lower/raises the volume?
[12:44] <mustard5> KasperTech, have you read the wiki entry on wireless for that model?
[12:44] <Xenguy> silent_scream: aumix
[12:44] <Xenguy> silent_scream: (worth a try)
[12:44] <navarone> silent scream> type aslamixer and enter...use arrow key sto move and raise or lower volumes
[12:44] <KasperTech> mustard5: D'you have a link? I've tried the http://ipw2200.sf.net - but it failed :S
[12:44] <tyler> k, ill do that.
[12:44] <mustard5> KasperTech, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[12:44] <tyler> _jason, doesn't seem like changing the value made anything faster.. any other ideas?
[12:44] <tyler> _jason, my internet is very fast in windows
[12:44] <navarone> tyler you have to restart ff
[12:45] <mustard5> KasperTech, look for you card model in the list and see the notes
[12:45] <silent_scream> Xenguy, nothing happened
[12:45] <tyler> navarone, i did
[12:45] <Steewen> can someone tell me how good computer i have to have to be able to install Ubuntu 5.10? im thinking about trying it on an old laptop
[12:45] <Xenguy> silent_scream: it may not be installed (also what navarone said)
[12:45] <KasperTech> mustard5: Thanks a million.
[12:45] <mustard5> KasperTech, np..I hope it works for you :)
[12:45] <_jason> tyler, ff1.07 was generally slow for me, ff1.5 is a lot faster but I would not recommend you install it yet.  You can try some other browsers like Epiphany and Galeon which are available in the repos.
[12:45] <KasperTech> Me too. And merry Christmass to you mustard5.
[12:46] <tyler> _jason, i have 1.5 :(
[12:46] <silent_scream> navarone i don't mean that
[12:46] <tyler> _jason, maybe il check them out
[12:46] <tyler> _jason, ok, i added multiverse after universe on 19 and 20, saved the file, and ran the command in terminal again.  Same error
[12:46] <tyler> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[12:46] <Xenguy> silent_scream: what output do you get -> which aumix
[12:47] <tyler> _jason, maybe restart?
[12:47] <_jason> tyler, run: sudo apt-get update
[12:47] <levander> After I've already booted, how do I switch into single-user mode?
[12:47] <navarone> silent scream do you get any sound at all?
[12:47] <silent_scream> i mean a simple command from console like "volume_up" for example, that raise the volume
[12:47] <engintech> help
[12:47] <navarone> silent scream I dunno
[12:47] <Xenguy> silent_scream: dunno; aumix is as low-level (ncurses-based) as I've gone w/ sound
[12:47] <engintech> can someone help with installing my new flat panel
[12:47] <engintech> ?
[12:48] <angel_> What command do I have to type in the terminal window to open Synaptic?
[12:48] <Xenguy> angel_: that, lowercase ?
[12:48] <engintech> i have hoary 5.4 and read ubuntu forums for this lcd but all fixes from wiki don't work
[12:48] <navarone> angel> Synaptic is not a termianl program
[12:48] <ProtectYaNeck> anyone know of direct connect hub software that I could run on ubuntu?
[12:48] <Xenguy> navarone: yeah, but it can be invoked from the command-line
[12:49] <angel_> Xenguy> how?
[12:49] <os2mac> does any one know when firefox will be updated in the repositories?
[12:49] <mwe> it wont
[12:49] <navarone> angel...probably sudo Synaptic...?
[12:49] <tyler> _jason, updating.
[12:49] <tyler> _jason, success!
[12:49] <Xenguy> angel_: open a terminal and type (no quotes) 'synaptic'
[12:49] <engintech> default reconfig settings from xserver-xorg give me 640x480 only.  If I enter the Horiz & Vert ranges of my monitor, I get a "Cannot display this mode" error from the flat panel
[12:49] <lampshade> Whats up #ubuntu?
[12:49] <Xenguy> angel_: does that work?
[12:49] <engintech> it is a dell 1905fp
[12:49] <os2mac> mwe: why
[12:50] <engintech> if I boot into kubuntu 5.10 i have no issue with resolution.
[12:50] <tyler> _jason, its downloading codecs etc. thanks for all of your help guys
[12:50] <_jason> tyler, np
[12:50] <mwe> os2mac: because the ubuntu policy is to keep programs at the same releasy in every release.
[12:50] <engintech> i tried copying xorg.conf from kubuntu into hoary, but it doesn't work.
[12:50] <angel_> Xenguy> it works... it's sudo synaptic... thanks :)
[12:50] <jojoman02> is there any way to skin gmplayer (if not, why not?)
[12:50] <Xenguy> angel_: yw
[12:50] <tyler> Does anyone know of any good java editors other than eclipse?
[12:50] <mwe> os2mac: if you enable backports you'll new version of some desktop programs though
[12:50] <engintech> please help!
[12:51] <jojoman02> the scroll area and buttons and what not (not that gui)
[12:51] <kjdis> Can I just change my sources.list to get the absolute latest pkgs?
[12:51] <lampshade> tyler:  The built in netbeans one that comes with Java is pretty cool.  Also vim.
[12:51] <os2mac> can you cut and paste them to me... I may have already done that.
[12:51] <tyler> lampshade, whats vim?
[12:51] <The_Isle_of_Mark> vim lol
[12:51] <Xenguy> tyler: a powerful, but highly complex text editor
[12:51] <stormzen> Anyone here happen to know Smoothwall?
[12:51] <mwe> os2mac: anyway for firefox there is a great guide in the wiki
[12:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> vim is the best editor ever. I like it better than emacs. Yah, I said it
[12:52] <mwe> !firefox15
[12:52] <ubotu> it has been said that firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[12:52] <lampshade> tyler:  You can make it do backflips for you once you get used to it
[12:52] <tyler> Xenguy, more complex than Eclipse?
[12:52] <Xenguy> The_Isle_of_Mark: I use it every day, on gnu/linux and other OS's too :-)
[12:52] <lampshade> I use it on windows too-- the win version of VIM.  It is awesome++
[12:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> yep I use it exclusively...even when in an x window environ
[12:53] <Xenguy> tyler: vi is the original Unix editor; Vim is vi on steroids.  To answer your Q, apples and oranges really
[12:53] <Xenguy> lampshade: that's what I use at work
[12:53] <lampshade> see everyone cool uses vim :)
[12:53] <tyler> Xenguy, i see.
[12:53] <tyler> Xenguy, is it possible to install JSDK + NetBeans through SPM?
[12:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> but tyler it is NOT an ide
[12:54] <Xenguy> tyler: dunno (not really a Java guy)
[12:54] <opnsrc> I downloaded the latest firefox version and for some reason I can't compile it under ubuntu
[12:54] <opnsrc> I had Kanotix and Redhat linux once and I didn't have problems compiling stuff. For some reason, I can't compile anything under Ubuntu
[12:54] <Stormx2> opnsrc: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:54] <LjL> opnsrc: i suppose you have build-essential installed?
[12:54] <opnsrc> I installed all the compiler stuff from spm
[12:54] <kjdis> Breezy doesn't have new enough pkgs for me, do I go to dapper?
[12:55] <mwe> opnsrc: why would you bother compiling it yourself?
[12:55] <opnsrc> how else am I supposed to use it?
[12:55] <Stormx2> mwe: its not in the repos yet.
[12:55] <Hobbsee> kjdis: not unless you want lots of breakage
[12:55] <Stormx2> opnsrc: use what?
[12:55] <mwe> but the binaries can be downloaded from mozilla.org
[12:55] <Xenguy> hah, there is an entry for 'Vim' in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vim_%28text_editor%29
[12:55] <LjL> opnsrc: "apt-get build-dep firefox" should get you all the deps you need to compile it
[12:55] <tyler> Anyone know if its possible to install the Java SDK with NetBeans through SPM?
[12:55] <mwe> no reason to compile it yourself
[12:55] <LjL> opnsrc: unless they've added some more deps in the new version
[12:55] <kjdis> I need libstdc++ newer than 4.0.1, that's only thing I want
[12:56] <opnsrc> firefox
[12:56] <Stormx2> Xenguy: So?
[12:56] <lampshade> http://channels.lockergnome.com/linux/archives/20051025_using_firefox_15_with_ubuntu_510_quick_howto.phtml also looks pretty good tutorial on firefox haven't tried it yet though
[12:56] <Xenguy> Stormx2: yes
[12:56] <opnsrc> it says
[12:56] <opnsrc> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:56] <opnsrc> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[12:56] <boo> hey
[12:56] <LjL> opnsrc: yes. that's "sudo apt-get build-dep firefox"
[12:56] <boo> i just installed cvscedega, how do i open it
[12:57] <opnsrc> sorry, I just used copy and paste
[12:57] <opnsrc> I shoulda figure
[12:57] <mwe> I still don't get why you would compile firefox when you can dl the binaries from mozilla.org, but that's just me ...
[12:57] <Stormx2> opnsrc: Close synaptic
[12:58] <opnsrc> 1.5 is no longer beta
[12:58] <opnsrc> it is closed
[12:58] <MickMcMack> mwe, there are no AMD64 binaries. :(
[12:58] <Stormx2> opnsrc: or aptitude, or add applications, or update manager
[12:58] <mwe> MickMcMack: I see
[12:58] <opnsrc> all of that stuff is closed
[12:58] <opnsrc> thanks
[12:58] <LjL> Stormx2: no, he simply wasn't root
[12:59] <Stormx2> LjL: ....damnit
[12:59] <opnsrc> ok it's done
[12:59] <opnsrc> now I should be able to compile firefox right?
[12:59] <LjL> opnsrc: hope so
[12:59] <engintech> anyone familiar with setting up a dell 1905fp on a preinstalled version of hoary!?
[12:59] <opnsrc> thanks
[12:59] <LjL> opnsrc: don't forget to use checkinstall
[12:59] <Hobbsee> opnsrc: er, why do you want to compile it?
[01:00] <opnsrc> Ok, how do I get it to work otherwise
[01:00] <mwe> MickMcMack: and the 32bit version would be slow on amd64, i take it? you can run 32bit binaries on that can't you?
[01:00] <opnsrc> I want the newest version of firefox
[01:00] <LjL> opnsrc: ubotu has sent you a link
[01:00] <Hybridx0> is there any reason why i would not want to install grub into the MBR?
[01:00] <BrownMan> Hi, I'm trying to put a splash screen but I do not have the wizard in System/Preferences/SplashScreen
[01:00] <Hobbsee> the binaries on mozilla site are close to it, i think
[01:00] <opnsrc> the wikipeida site has 1.0.7
[01:00] <opnsrc> I want 1.5
[01:00] <MickMcMack> mwe, I just tried, and it wont run. Although, it should. :s
[01:00] <Hobbsee> !firefox1.5
[01:00] <ubotu> somebody said firefox1.5 was unspported in breezy but if you would like to install (at your own risk) Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:00] <opnsrc> I clicked the link, it's 1.0.7
[01:00] <mwe> MickMcMack: aw
[01:00] <opnsrc> !firefox1.5
[01:00] <Hobbsee> opnsrc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:00] <Hybridx0> is there any reason why i would not want to install grub into the MBR?
[01:00] <LjL> opnsrc: no, it's not...
[01:01] <Homer> people are lost without an APT package
[01:01] <Homer> sheesh
[01:01] <navarone> HYbridx0> I didn't and installed on floppy...but I had bad experience with mandrake (3 versions)
[01:01] <opnsrc> hold up
[01:01] <Xenguy> Hybridx0: don't if you are dual-booting
[01:01] <boo> i just installed cvscedega, how do i open it
[01:01] <LjL> opnsrc: and, by the way, that's not the wikipedia site ;)
[01:01] <Hybridx0> im tri-booting
[01:01] <Stormx2> boo: 'cedega' ?
[01:01] <opnsrc> oh sorry
[01:01] <Stormx2> Hybridx0: Me too.
[01:01] <YouCeyE> any apt package for ff 1.5?
[01:01] <opnsrc> someone sent me a link via msg
[01:01] <boo> yes, but the free version
[01:01] <Xenguy> Hybridx0: otherwise I believe MBR is the best place
[01:01] <boo> cvs cedega
[01:01] <opnsrc> to a wikipedia site about firefox
[01:01] <lampshade> Hybridx0:  tribooting right on
[01:01] <Stormx2> YouCeyE: No
[01:01] <BrownMan> I'm trying to put a splash screen but I do not have the wizard in System/Preferences/SplashScreen
[01:01] <Stormx2> YouCeyE: /topic
[01:01] <Hobbsee> !tell YouCeyE about firefox1.5
[01:01] <Hybridx0> lol :)
[01:01] <lampshade> put the firefox info in the topic
[01:02] <LjL> opnsrc: that was an Ubuntu Wiki site, not a Wikipedia site -- at least, the one ubotu sent you
[01:02] <Hobbsee> Hybridx0: mine's a tripple boot too, GRUB is on the MBR, no problem
[01:02] <Homer> how do I install programs without an APT package???!!
[01:02] <Hybridx0> xenguy so the mbr is a good place for tri-booting?
[01:02] <Homer> :o
[01:02] <YouCeyE> k thanks
[01:02] <LjL> Homer: it depends
[01:02] <qu1dam> Hello, can somebody help me set up wine? I am having trouble.
[01:02] <LjL> qu1dam: what with?
[01:02] <mwe> Homer: yeah noone seems to be able to install anything that they can't get through synaptic these days :)
[01:02] <Stormx2> mwe: incorrect
[01:02] <Xenguy> Hybridx0: I think that is the opposite of what I said previously...
[01:02] <Stormx2> mwe: Very very incorrect.
[01:03] <BrownMan> Can someone help me put a splashscreen?  I'm trying to put a splash screen but I do not have the wizard in System/Preferences/SplashScreen
[01:03] <Hybridx0> Xenguy: i didnt understand ur answer
[01:03] <Stormx2> mwe: Of course you can compile in ubuntu. It would be a terrible OS if you couldn't.
[01:03] <Hybridx0> Xenguy: what would u reccomend i do then?
[01:03] <boo> anyone? how do i open cvs cedega =/
[01:03] <LjL> Stormx2, mwe: and i think it's actually made easier than in many other distributions
[01:03] <Xenguy> Hybridx0: I'm not an expert with GRUB, all I recall is that if you are dual (or more) booting with other OS's, then I don't think you want GRUB/Lilo on the MBR...
[01:03] <Homer> storm: you can but who wants the inconvience
[01:03] <Stormx2> boo: 'cedega'
[01:03] <jbloudg20> does anyone knwo if I am able to use some sort of toolbar plug in which will allow me to have my currently playing song displayed on my lower toolbar?
[01:03] <Hobbsee> boo: try in #cedega
[01:03] <boo> k
[01:03] <mwe> Stormx2: you got me wrong. I mean nobody seems to know howto install anything that isn't in synaptic these days
[01:03] <Xenguy> Hybridx0: you should seek other opinions on this :-)
[01:04] <Stormx2> Homer: No-one. hense why there are 17,000 packages in the repos.
[01:04] <Stormx2> mwe: Oh, right ;-)
[01:04] <Xenguy> Hybridx0: I just wanted to warn you what *not* to do
[01:04] <Hybridx0> Xenguy: thanks, i will/ and i have heard a few objections to dual booting with mbr
[01:04] <hawke_> has the behavior of lsb_release changed intentionally?
[01:05] <Xenguy> Hybridx0: google is your friend (in this case a good dose of patience helps too, to find the correct instructions)
[01:05] <navarone> People having to compile every bit of software for linux would be like expecting anyone to build their own cars or anything else. Soem people can do it...but not everyone has the skill, patience or time. I haev installed some .debs manually, but , so far, compiling still eludes me...<2 cents>
[01:05] <opnsrc> thanks
[01:05] <Stormx2> navarone: To be fair, a lot of distros do work off compiling
[01:05] <Hybridx0> Xenguy: yes, and i am in no hurry so i will consider every possible way
[01:05] <Stormx2> navarone: And most of the time you only need to run 3 commands to compile.
[01:06] <Hybridx0> Xenguy: thanks anyway :)
[01:06] <Red-Sox> how do you select everything in nano?
[01:06] <navarone> Stormx> no doubt...but the average user is not looking for that level of immersion
[01:06] <Xenguy> Hybridx0: np
[01:06] <Stormx2> navarone: Thats why apt is so handy ;-)
[01:06] <mwe> navarone: compiling is usually like ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall, done
[01:06] <jbloudg20> i'd like for the info to be displayed here: http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot11ec.jpg
[01:06] <Stormx2> And why ubuntu is so popular.
[01:06] <pygrammer> e
[01:06] <Leonik> ok:  I am looking for a linux distro that i can install onto a server.  I am only using terminal, and I want to be able to choose what apps get installed on it.  If I can't do that, I want a distro that doens't install anything and I can install the things I need.  What's the best distro for this?  unbiased please
[01:06] <navarone> Stormx> exactamundo...<staightens leather jacket>
[01:06] <pygrammer> is there any reason why I'd get dpkg errors when apt-get install'ing asterisk?
[01:07] <Xenguy> Leonik: I'd use Debian
[01:07] <pygrammer> supposedly the "homedir already exists"
[01:07] <pygrammer> but i hadn't created one other than my own
[01:07] <pygrammer> so I don't understand that error
[01:07] <Stormx2> Leonik: There is a server install of ubuntu.
[01:07] <Leonik> what about one that i odnt have to worry about updating each thing individually
[01:07] <Leonik> i was going to just use ubuntu
[01:07] <navarone> Leonik> whe  installing ubuntu you can specify "server" for server install
[01:07] <Leonik> but i hate the user and group thing thats such a hassle
[01:07] <Xenguy> Leonik: Ubu (server install) is probably quite fine too
[01:07] <pygrammer> Setting up asterisk (1.0.9.dfsg-1) ...
[01:07] <pygrammer> adduser: Warning: The home dir you specified already exists.
[01:07] <Stormx2> Leonik: Same in windows and linux.
[01:07] <pygrammer> Home directory `/var/lib/asterisk' already exists.
[01:07] <pygrammer> adduser: No more than two names.
[01:07] <YouCeyE> /usr/local/firefox/firefox-bin
[01:07] <YouCeyE> /usr/local/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:08] <pygrammer> so, /var/lib/asterisk already exists, but why?
[01:08] <Stormx2> !paste
[01:08] <ubotu> methinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:08] <Leonik> besides ubuntu what would be a good option?  bsd? red hat?
[01:08] <Stormx2> Leonik: lots of servers run off red hat
[01:08] <Xenguy> Leonik: god no
[01:08] <pygrammer> i don't think i'd installed asterisk before...and if i had, it wouldn't be to /var/lib/asterisk
[01:08] <gpled> any word on when a new firefox for ubuntu is coming out?
[01:08] <Stormx2> gpled: When it turns up in dapper
[01:08] <mwe> the user and group "thing" is really one if the things that makes *nix safe
[01:08] <pygrammer> but .... Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:08] <pygrammer>  asterisk
[01:08] <YouCeyE> libmozjs.so .. where can i get it
[01:08] <Xenguy> Leonik: IMNSHO Ubu (server only) or better, Debian (stable tree)
[01:08] <pygrammer> can anyone help? supposedly it installed
[01:08] <pygrammer> but the error doesn't make me feel very good
[01:08] <Quest-Master> IMNSHO?
[01:09] <pygrammer> in my not so humble opinion :)
[01:09] <Stormx2> pygrammer: Open synaptic and see if its broken
[01:09] <Xenguy> Quest-Master: in my not so humble opinion ;-)
[01:09] <Stormx2> I'm off to bed
[01:09] <Leonik>  but you cant specifiy everything for ubuntu... the thing is it installs SSH and Samba and all that stuff and i donno how to configure it
[01:09] <Stormx2> Night all!!
[01:09] <Leonik> and the ftp client
[01:09] <pygrammer> Stormx2: can't
[01:09] <Quest-Master> Xenguy: Ah :)
[01:09] <pygrammer> i'm not running X on the server ;)
[01:09] <Leonik> i want to be able to install it and configure it to what i want
[01:09] <Stormx2> pygrammer: Aptitude then
[01:09] <Stormx2> Bye!
[01:09] <Xenguy> Leonik: server install should be minimal
[01:09] <pygrammer> meh
[01:10] <pygrammer> I don't know how to use aptitude
[01:10] <navarone> mwe> i know what the commands are...and I have installed the build essentials and the like but still get no satisfaction...but I am not eager for bleeding edge or complete system customization. I just like being away from the MS trough of slops...<s>
[01:10] <Xenguy> Leonik: you have to explicitly choose the 'server install' when first installing (haven't done this myself, only heard of it)
[01:10] <pygrammer> Stormx2: doesn't say it's broken...
[01:10] <Xenguy> pygrammer: there's a wiki page IIRC
[01:10] <pygrammer> Xenguy: for what?
[01:10] <Red-Sox> how do you copy everything in nano?
[01:11] <Xenguy> pygrammer: aptitude
[01:11] <angel_> Can someone suggest a very light image viewer?
[01:11] <Leonik> kkk thanks
[01:11] <mwe> angel_: display from imagemagick
[01:11] <gpled> Red-Sox: is nano like vim?
[01:11] <pygrammer> Xenguy: well, I sorta figured it out -- but it doesn't say anything about it being broken
[01:11] <pygrammer> so I assume it's not
[01:11] <Red-Sox> gpled: dunno
[01:11] <Rawplayer> RE
[01:12] <pygrammer> Xenguy: but the error didn't make me feel very good -- why would it error if it worked?
[01:12] <Xenguy> gpled: nano is simple; vim is complex
[01:12] <angel_> mwe: is it avaiable in the repos?
[01:12] <pygrammer> Xenguy: it seems to work, but i don't know if it's set up right
[01:12] <mwe> angel_: yeah
[01:12] <Xenguy> pygrammer: what error?
[01:12] <angel_> mwe: Thanks I'll try it :)
[01:12] <mwe> angel_: apt-get install imagemagick (it is spelled like that yes) :)
[01:12] <pygrammer> Xenguy: I pasted it above
[01:12] <Xenguy> ahh
[01:12] <pygrammer> Home directory `/var/lib/asterisk' already exists.
[01:13] <pygrammer> then...
[01:13] <Xenguy> pygrammer: sorry, supper calls :-)
[01:13] <pygrammer> damn
[01:13] <pygrammer> thought i was gonna get some help :P
[01:14] <Chris_in_the_uk> hey, can anyone give me a hand sorting my telnet out? - i'm trying to telnet to myself on a "server" installation of ubuntu 5.10 and i can't seem to get it to work
[01:14] <gpled> hmm, looks like nano is pico which is wordstart :)
[01:14] <navarone> wow...deafult Firefox is a emory hog isn't it...it's at like 122mb now with one site open...ouch
[01:15] <iustin> i am new to linux, i handled mostly but i want to know where do i find ubuntu gnome themes and a program similar with dc++ for file sharing
[01:15] <jbloudg20> nobody knows how to display othe song information in my toolbar?
[01:15] <mwe> navarone: yeah it's using alot of memory
[01:15] <pygrammer> navarone: yep - that's why I have 2gb :)
[01:15] <navarone> pygramer> only 256 here...<s>
[01:15] <mwe> pygrammer: so you can run firefox? :)
[01:15] <pygrammer> eek
[01:15] <pygrammer> mwe: yeah! :P
[01:15] <pygrammer> it's a Firefox-only computer
[01:15] <pygrammer> I have one for every use
[01:15] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> can i remove iptables and install ipchains?
[01:15] <mwe> rofl
[01:16] <pygrammer> I have one for running Apache w/ PHP
[01:16] <pygrammer> one for Apache w/ Python
[01:16] <pygrammer> w/ Perl, etc.
[01:16] <pygrammer> for Opera, for XMMS, etc
[01:16] <mwe> lol
[01:16] <gpled> if i apt-get, does that mess up synaptic?
[01:16] <navarone> shesh
[01:16] <pygrammer> i could do some serious clustering :)
[01:16] <mwe> yeah :)
[01:16] <dribble> pygrammer: setting up lam-mpi isn't bad
[01:16] <pygrammer> haha
[01:16] <Chris_in_the_uk> can anyone help with telnet?
[01:17] <pygrammer> dribble: I wish :(
[01:17] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: what do you need to know?
[01:18] <DShepherd> hey
[01:18] <mwe> Chris_in_the_uk: make sure you have a telnet server running and that you don't have a firewall blocking the port
[01:18] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: i'm new to linux and trying to follow an online guide (http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p4) and i've got to the bottom of the page.  It tells me to telnet to myself to check i've set up ssh correctly etc and the last line i get is "Escape character is ^] "
[01:19] <Chris_in_the_uk> mwe: i'm telnetting to localhost
[01:19] <doublea> Ok. I can hear and see the dvd menus now, but there's no functionality. What do I need to get the navigating to work as well?
[01:19] <mwe> yeah, and the error you get is what?, Chris_in_the_uk
[01:19] <matrix-ubuntu-cs>  i installed ipchains sudo apt-get install ipchains how do i remove iptables
[01:19] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: i would telnet <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:20] <angel_> is it possible to install GoogleEarth in Ubuntu?
[01:20] <mwe> matrix-ubuntu-cs: running a 2.2 kernel?
[01:20] <Chris_in_the_uk> how do i quit the telnet client?
[01:20] <MickMcMack> ^]
[01:20] <Chris_in_the_uk> i just did that
[01:20] <Chris_in_the_uk> no response
[01:20] <MickMcMack> Control + ]
[01:20] <gpled> try quit and exit too
[01:20] <ardchoille> I plugged an iriver mp3 player into my box, what do I need to look for to be able to know where to drag and drop my mp3 files?
[01:20] <navarone> doublea> have you installed the dvdcss package?
[01:21] <Chris_in_the_uk> awesome
[01:21] <gpled> ^ = control
[01:21] <Chris_in_the_uk> ok
[01:21] <Chris_in_the_uk> i managed to quit :)
[01:21] <Chris_in_the_uk> i've reconnected using the loopback IP
[01:22] <matrix-ubuntu-cs>  i installed ipchains sudo apt-get install ipchains how do i remove iptables
[01:22] <LjL> matrix-ubuntu-cs: perhaps "apt-get remove iptables"?
[01:22] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> and make ipchains get to work
[01:22] <transgress> is there a way to set firefox 1.5 that is untar'd to my home directory as the default browser?
[01:22] <doublea> Yes I have.
[01:22] <Chris_in_the_uk> the tutorial tells me to type "ehlo localhost" but the server responds "invalid command"
[01:22] <transgress> flock has a check if it's the default browser option, and it works... but the ff 1.5 doesn't...
[01:22] <lampshade> isn't iptables like a new ipchains?  or something aren't they based off of eachother? or something
[01:22] <gpled> matrix-ubuntu-cs: you should be using iptables
[01:22] <LjL> matrix-ubuntu-cs: anyway, i'm not sure what you're at, but i think ipchains is *deprecated* in favor of iptables..
[01:22] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: you testing mail server?
[01:23] <transgress> isn't there a new replacement for iptables in the linux kernel now?
[01:23] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: yes
[01:23] <lampshade> isn't it helo localhost?
[01:23] <Chris_in_the_uk> possibly
[01:23] <mwe> matrix-ubuntu-cs: ipchains wont work with any newer kernels
[01:23] <gpled> lampshade: it can be
[01:23] <lampshade> for like direct telneting into mail?
[01:23] <lampshade> can it be both?
[01:23] <lampshade> not that I'm doing anything with mail servers right now just curious.
[01:24] <Chris_in_the_uk> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p4 - take a look just slightly more than half way down
[01:24] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: try ehlo test.com
[01:24] <Chris_in_the_uk> ok
[01:24] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: should i be typing this at the blank prompt or the telnet> prompt?
[01:25] <LjL> HELO? at the "blank prompt", i.e. inside the telnet session
[01:25] <Nuclear-BR> hello guys, I need to dl RAR, not unrar neither rar-free, in which repository i could find it?anybody know?
[01:25] <Chris_in_the_uk> ok
[01:25] <LjL> !info unrar-nonfree
[01:25] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[01:25] <Chris_in_the_uk> that's what i've been doing, and getting no response
[01:25] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 25  most of the time.  25 is to hit your mail server
[01:25] <Chris_in_the_uk> ok
[01:25] <Chris_in_the_uk> well i'm telnetting to port 25
[01:25] <gpled> did it say anything on the screen?
[01:26] <delltony> hi i'm trying to play deuce bigalow (dvd) on my laptop and for some reason it will not play in kaffiene i have libdvdcss2 installed anything else i should check to see if its missing?
[01:26] <Chris_in_the_uk> i'm expecting something like "220 sever.example.com ESMTP Postfix (Debain/GNU)" when i connect, but i don't get any message like that
[01:26] <Chris_in_the_uk> when i type a command, i get no response, just a new line
[01:26] <transgress> anyone... how do you change the default browser?
[01:26] <Ep|phany> does anyone know a good ftp viewer?
[01:26] <transgress> Ep|phany: gftp
[01:26] <navarone> epipahny...gftp
[01:26] <Ep|phany> thnx
[01:27] <redguy> ftp *viewer* ?
[01:27] <transgress> redguy: i'm assuming he means client.
[01:27] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: are you using postfix?
[01:27] <Chris_in_the_uk> yes
[01:27] <Chris_in_the_uk> and it is running
[01:27] <mwe> navarone: you mentioned your firefox used about 128mb of ram with one page open?
[01:27] <Chris_in_the_uk> i just tried starting it again and got a fail because it was already running
[01:27] <lampshade> I also second gftp
[01:27] <snorks> Ep|phany: ncftp... no problem, thank me later
[01:27] <LjL> mwe: that's similar to what mine's using -- that's VM size
[01:27] <gpled> and you typed: telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 25 ?
[01:28] <Chris_in_the_uk> yes
[01:28] <navarone> mwe...yeah it was at 122mb..i had browsed maybe one or two pages and was idling on one page(tab) open
[01:28] <mwe> LjL: mine seems to be using only about 30MB
[01:28] <Ep|phany> heh ill try it out snorks
[01:28] <Nuclear-BR> problem is, i dont have the multiverse repository, how do I add it?
[01:28] <snorks> to set disk quotas in smb, do i have to use LDAP for that?
[01:28] <LjL> mwe: mine's *resident* size is about 30MB
[01:28] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: do you know how to stop postfix?
[01:28] <Chris_in_the_uk> something like /etc/init.d/postfix stop?
[01:29] <Chris_in_the_uk> yes :)
[01:29] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: that looks correct
[01:29] <mwe> LjL: please explain what that means, if you don't mind
[01:29] <Chris_in_the_uk> it's stopped
[01:29] <opnsrc> Is there a deltree equivalent in ubuntu
[01:29] <gpled> ok, now start it
[01:29] <snorks> opnsrc: -r
[01:29] <DShepherd> Nuclear-BR: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#addinguniverse <-- try that
[01:29] <delltony> can someone help me please ?
[01:29] <opnsrc> I tried installing the new firefox version using those instructions (copy and paste), no luck
[01:29] <opnsrc> Now I want to remove /opt/firefox
[01:29] <navarone> mwe> are you using 1.5?
[01:29] <LjL> mwe: just type "ps aux", there's a "VSZ" column and a RSS" column
[01:29] <snorks> opnsrc: aka rm -r (which stands for recursive) whatuwanttoremove
[01:29] <DShepherd> delltony: it depends
[01:29] <opnsrc> thanks
[01:29] <snorks> np. take care with it
[01:29] <mwe> LjL: yes what the vm?
[01:29] <Hobbsee> opnsrc: on that wiki page, it also tells you how to remove firefox 1.5
[01:30] <Chris_in_the_uk> ok, gpled, restarted it
[01:30] <delltony> depends?
[01:30] <Nuclear-BR> DShepherd, thanks
[01:30] <LjL> mwe: the vm size is the amount of total memory, including swapped memory. resident size is only physical memory. that's my understanding of it at least
[01:30] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: now try telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 25
[01:30] <levander> Somebody can tell me how to get into single user mode after I've already booted ubuntu?
[01:30] <DShepherd> delltony: yes, But you only know if you ask :)
[01:30] <opnsrc> Well it didn't even install
[01:30] <DShepherd> Nuclear-BR: np
[01:30] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: tried, same response
[01:30] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> this is a file for redhat but when can i get it for ubuntu lokkit-0.50-21.8.0.src.rpm
[01:30] <delltony> i did ask ;) but ill ask again :)
[01:30] <snorks> levander: single user mode?
[01:30] <opnsrc> I have no idea what it did, gave me an error and said need some help
[01:30] <boo> whats the command for unzipping .tar files?
[01:30] <delltony> hi i'm trying to play deuce bigalow (dvd) on my laptop and for some reason it will not play in kaffiene i have libdvdcss2 installed anything else i should check to see if its missing?
[01:30] <opnsrc> or you need help
[01:30] <opnsrc> is what it told me
[01:31] <mwe> LjL: I see
[01:31] <iustin> what`s the equivalent for dc++ (direct connect)? plz
[01:31] <levander> snorks: e.g., the inittab run levels
[01:31] <snorks> opnsrc: ?
[01:31] <navarone> delltony> ahve you tried mplayer?
[01:31] <boo> iustin they have dc++
[01:31] <levander> snorks: there's a command to switch run levels, don't remember it
[01:31] <opnsrc> i forgot the exact words but it said something like that
[01:31] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: type helo test
[01:31] <delltony> let me try it
[01:31] <boo> does anyone know the command for unzipping .tar files
[01:31] <snorks> levander: hm. isnt that
[01:31] <snorks> levander: give me a sec
[01:31] <Chris_in_the_uk> no response
[01:31] <LjL> boo: "tar -x -f filename.tar"
[01:31] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: thats not good
[01:31] <YouCeyE> hi.. how can i install debian from ubutu using debootstrap
[01:31] <LjL> boo: and anyway, you'll probably want to *untar* tar files ;)
[01:32] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: b*gger :(
[01:32] <opnsrc> I figure I'll try to stick in a knoppix CD, compile it with that (on my Ubuntu HD), boot Ubuntu and run it
[01:32] <DShepherd> boo: 'man tar' for more info
[01:32] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: do you know where your postfix log is?
[01:32] <opnsrc> Kanotix *
[01:32] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: give me 2 minutes
[01:32] <gpled> think it is /var/log/maillog
[01:32] <gpled> brb
[01:32] <opnsrc> I never had problems compiling stuff under Kanotix
[01:32] <caravena_> boo: "tar -xf filename.tar"
[01:32] <delltony> nope not playing
[01:32] <mwe> LjL: that's funny, cause "free" reports zero swap used, though ps aux reports 89MB for FF, vm and about 30MB rss
[01:32] <LjL> levander: i think "telinit" is what you want
[01:33] <snorks> levander:
[01:33] <opnsrc> anywho, thanks
[01:33] <snorks> levander: i think runlevel?
[01:33] <LjL> mwe: then i suppose my understanding of it is wrong. but, now that i think of it, VM size probably also includes shared libraries
[01:33] <snorks> levander: or telinit
[01:34] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: where is it likely to be? postfix was installed using default setup
[01:34] <levander> snorks: 'man runlevel' says runlevel just reports the run level
[01:34] <winston> how to install xine or mplayer on breezy?
[01:34] <LjL> levander: telinit
[01:34] <caravena_> ?
[01:34] <_jason> ubotu, tell winston about mplayer
[01:34] <LjL> levander: http://docs.pld-linux.org/runlevels.html
[01:34] <levander> i think it's like LjL said, telinit, thanks snork and LjL
[01:34] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: /var/log/maillog
[01:34] <navarone> Chris he suggested /var/log/maillog
[01:34] <Chris_in_the_uk> cheers guys
[01:35] <snorks> levander: i did this at school not long ago :/ i mean it was runlevel
[01:35] <navarone> Chris...tip tip and all that rot...<lol>
[01:35] <gpled> navarone: lol
[01:35] <Murrlin> how would I go about setting 'open with'/mime types?
[01:35] <czr> hello all. just installed ubuntu 5.10 and noticed that the partitioning tool displays misleading info
[01:36] <mwe> LjL: yeah im a bit confused now though since ps -eo size,cmd|grep firefox reports 55MB :) that's three different reportings. heh
[01:36] <Murrlin> i.e. I'd like totem-xine to be called when clicking on avi files
[01:36] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: found it, /var/log/mail.log
[01:36] <LjL> mwe: that's why i stopped trying to find out how much memory my processes ate long ago
[01:36] <czr> it said that ubuntu does not current support booting if either / or /boot is on LVM. I put / on LVM and it boots just fine. /boot is a regular partition (for GRUB)
[01:37] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: does it look like postfix started ok?
[01:37] <mwe> LjL: heh, yeah
[01:37] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: no :P
[01:37] <silent_scream> how can i copy a file from linux to windows?
[01:37] <LjL> silent_scream: you mean different computers, or the same computer?
[01:37] <gpled> Silencer: scp
[01:37] <snorks> silent_scream: mount either partition in either OS
[01:37] <winston> _jason E: Couldn't find package mplayer-586
[01:37] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: there's about 8 and a half pages of errors and the machine's only been running half a day!
[01:37] <navarone> mwe> I've heard people say that linux uses all avaialble physical memory before swap is that correct?
[01:37] <_jason> winston, have you enabled mutliverse and universe?
[01:38] <czr> navarone, not true with 2.6
[01:38] <silent_scream> LjL the same
[01:38] <mwe> navarone: afaik, yes
[01:38] <gpled> silent_scream: woops wrong way. ftp
[01:38] <navarone> ok
[01:38] <winston> _jason no, how?
[01:38] <LjL> silent_scream: is your windows filesystem fa32 or ntfs?
[01:38] <czr> it might start swapping before if it decides that there are old pages that can be swapped and there is pressure for more cache memory
[01:38] <silent_scream> no there is a program
[01:38] <snorks> silent_scream: ifs something lets you mount linux partitions. But you can't write to it
[01:38] <_jason> winston, it's the second step in that guide
[01:38] <silent_scream> LjL ntfs
[01:38] <czr> navarone, but it is rare.
[01:38] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk: you ever use pastbin?
[01:38] <steigweis> does anybody use photoshop and dreamweaver under linux? and how?
[01:38] <mwe> navarone: "free" will show if any swap is used. mine reports zero swap used
[01:38] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: no, sorry
[01:38] <gpled> Chris_in_the_uk:  hold
[01:38] <snorks> steigweis: try vmware for linux
[01:38] <LjL> silent_scream: then you shouldn't copy from linux to windows, as ntfs should only be mounted read-only in linux. write support is rather dangerous currently
[01:39] <snorks> steigweis: vmware.com
[01:39] <steigweis> snorks: thanks? have you tried that?
[01:39] <czr> steigweis, you'll end up running a full windows under linux with vmware
[01:39] <LjL> silent_scream: you could create a small fat32 partition to exchange data. or, you could use a windows utility to take files from your ext2 (linux) filesystem
[01:39] <snorks> silent_scream: boot into windows, mount your linux partition with following app: <will find it for you in a sec> then copy files
[01:39] <silent_scream> LjL no. imean when i am in windows to get the file from linux. there is a program doing that
[01:39] <snorks> steigweis: no, but i plan to in the xmas vacations
[01:39] <Chris_in_the_uk> gpled: could it not be working due to relatively low ram?
[01:40] <steigweis> czr: with an up-to-date sytem. is that fast enough?
[01:40] <navarone> silent scream> you can make a shared aprtiton in fat32 to move files between os's...but it required a little planning before install...or careful partitioning after the fact
[01:40] <czr> steigweis, I've been using vmware for many years now
[01:40] <czr> steigweis, it's fast enough for my needs ;-)
[01:40] <steigweis> czr: so you have linux and windows the same time
[01:40] <_jason> Silencer, explore2fs
[01:40] <silent_scream> yes
[01:40] <LjL> silent_scream: google for "ext2 windows". you'll find more than one option
[01:40] <czr> steigweis, no. I run other stuff under vmware. I don't use windows
[01:40] <silent_scream> thanx _jason
[01:40] <czr> but I've run windows under vmware at other locations
[01:40] <coz> hello all
[01:41] <_jason> silent_scream, np
[01:41] <czr> steigweis, runs better in vmware than on hardware (windows that is)
[01:41] <coz> has anyone used the defrag utility from synaptic?
[01:41] <snorks> silent_scream: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm
[01:41] <steigweis> czr: aha, you dont have to run windows under vmware to rum ps..
[01:41] <czr> steigweis, you have to. I don't have to since I don't use ps :-)
[01:41] <steigweis> crazy shit
[01:42] <snorks> steigweis: i merely gave you an option :P I have no idea if there's a native version for linux of those apps
[01:42] <steigweis> ok, i will have a look...
[01:42] <snorks> steigweis: or lets use the word ported
[01:42] <winston> _jason thanx
[01:42] <LjL> coz: no, and i'm not sure it's really recommended using... especially on an ext3 filesystem. i'm not sure, but do search for further information before you try to use it
[01:42] <czr> steigweis, vmware workstation is the version suitable for you
[01:42] <_jason> winston, yw
[01:42] <czr> steigweis, the other ones are meant for server use
[01:42] <czr> steigweis, they are also much more expensive than workstation. you can get 30 day eval for all of them though
[01:42] <coz> I would like to but so far I have found three defrag utilities for linux each are more complicated to use than i w ould like or am used to
[01:42] <steigweis> ok, thanks.. so there is no disadvantage left on linux
[01:43] <coz> i was hoping someone here does some testing of some of the apps to be sure they are ok
[01:43] <czr> steigweis, technically you'll still be running windows though, just trough vmware ;-)
[01:43] <pinkisntwell> when are we gonna get firefox 1.5.0 on the repositories?
[01:43] <coz> I do some testing but this one has me stumped
[01:43] <snorks> which is best
[01:43] <LjL> pinkisntwell: why, who said we are going to? ;)
[01:43] <_jason> ubotu, tell pinkisntwell about ffbackport
[01:44] <transgress> they have to put ff into whatever the next version of ubuntu is before they backport it i believe
[01:44] <transgress> dapper
[01:44] <Siph0n> whats a good ftp program to use? im tryin to use gftp, but everytime i download or upload it closes the program...
[01:44] <transgress> Siph0n: wtf did you do to it?
[01:44] <FooWater> Can anyone point me to instructions on getting Ubuntu Linux to work with a wireless network card connecting to an Apple Airport Express using WPA?
[01:44] <MickMcMack> Siph0n, try konqueror. :)
[01:44] <snorks> hows running a DC with AD in wmware on a linux comp using smb with ldap to simulate AD?
[01:44] <Chris_in_the_uk> anyone got any idea how to install a TEXT ONLY browser on ubuntu 5.10 installed as a server?
[01:44] <czr> does anyknow know whether ubuntu will have enterprise hardware drivers at any point? or is cheaper hardware the target for ubuntu?
[01:45] <navarone> Chris>apt-get install lynx
[01:45] <Hobbsee> Chris_in_the_uk: use elinks or lynx
[01:45] <czr> snorks, what would you run DC and also simulate it at the same time?
[01:45] <snorks> To see what happens
[01:45] <snorks> czr:
[01:45] <czr> snorks, vmware runs any OS on a virtual machine
[01:45] <Chris_in_the_uk> cheers navarone and hobbsee
[01:46] <snorks> czr: Yes. I would like to see it
[01:46] <czr> snorks, please rephrase what you want to run then. it doesn't make much sense to me :-)
[01:46] <steigweis> pinkisntwell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion   try that to install the latest ff! it is very easy and ff 1.5 is 1000 times faster than the implemented crapfox on ubuntu
[01:46] <snorks> czr: Its not supposed to make sense
[01:46] <czr> snorks, touche :-)
[01:46] <snorks> czr: I would also like to activate dhcp on same netid juts for fun
[01:46] <pinkisntwell> ok will do, thanks
[01:46] <czr> snorks, go and download vmware workstation and get the 30 day eval license from vmware.com
[01:46] <LjL> Chris_in_the_uk: well, yet another suggestion as for text browsers: links2 (it's also got a graphics mode)
[01:47] <opnsrc> Ok I figured out what's wrong
[01:47] <czr> snorks, and have your windows install CDs handy
[01:47] <snorks> opnsrc: What is wrong, sir?
[01:47] <snorks> czr: hehe yep :)
[01:47] <opnsrc> When I run Kanotix (or other distributions of linux) and I extract firefox from firefox-1.5.tar.gz to the firefox directory
[01:47] <opnsrc> there is a file called firefox
[01:47] <czr> snorks, if you ever end up building large enterprise virtual server systems, stick with vmware ;-)
[01:48] <snorks> czr: We made (the teacher) a legit win server 2k03 vmware image today. Sucks we can't take it home
[01:48] <opnsrc> Now normally I can double click that file and it runs perfectly
[01:48] <pinkisntwell> and people, i get some problems with my sound in ubuntu. with most programs (media players) it works, but with games it mostly doesn't (xmame, zsnes, quake3)
[01:48] <czr> snorks, just use the "real" version (ESX)
[01:48] <oblib> has anyone used a parallel port scanner with Ubuntu?
[01:48] <_jason> ubotu, tell opnsrc about enter
[01:48] <opnsrc> But under Ubuntu it asks me if I want to run it, display or run in terminal
[01:48] <snorks> czr: I have not heard of that.
[01:48] <czr> snorks, well, as I said, I don't need windows for anything, so I don't really feel the pain
[01:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> How can I do a multiple cd install on WINE?
[01:48] <opnsrc> No matter what I click it doesn't run
[01:48] <opnsrc> sorry
[01:48] <SpAwN> hello i installed ubuntu yesterday....everything works except the sound....ive read alot of threads on ubuntu forums and still havent had any luck.....ive tried so manythings but nothing works...only kinda sound is the beep that my computer makes...nothing in the speakers...ive messed with the also and oss but neither do anything....i also read that  Installing polypaudio and replacing esound as your sound server also seems to work..
[01:48] <SpAwN> but when i use synaptic it says there is no packaged called polypaudio..i also know that my sound card is working as i have sound if i boot to windoze. has anyone else had this prob and found a solution?
[01:48] <czr> snorks, spend some 500k$ on storage (SAN), spend some 200k$ on blade server, spend some 100k$ on vmware, then you have ha/failover-whatever
[01:49] <czr> blade servers even
[01:49] <snorks> czr: If I was a gamer or a musician I'd like windows. But I  quit gaming, and I don't have any electric guitars laying around, so :p
[01:49] <opnsrc> so how do I make it run?
[01:49] <czr> snorks, I use xbox for gaming ;-)
[01:49] <DShepherd> pinkisntwell: you can manually iinstall it if you cant wait for dapper
[01:49] <_jason> opnsrc, you followed everything in the wiki guide correct?
[01:49] <czr> snorks, and music-wise I feel your pain. I've still to find good software that will work for my needs
[01:49] <snorks> czr: I use my CCNA book for gaming currently... working on my bachelor in network adm and security
[01:49] <opnsrc> it gave me an error
[01:50] <_jason> opnsrc, what error?
[01:50] <opnsrc> the thing is I don't want to go through all this every time I want to run an application
[01:50] <czr> snorks, what kind of net adm?
[01:50] <snorks> czr: im still in my first year
[01:50] <DShepherd> pinkisntwell: nm
[01:50] <opnsrc> I want it to work Just like it works with Kanotix and other distributions of linux
[01:50] <opnsrc> I double click the application, it runs
[01:50] <opnsrc> is how I want it to work. How do I fix that?
[01:50] <snorks> czr: im not sure what you mean by that question... whatever the job I apply for requires?
[01:50] <bimberi> SpAwN: polypaudio is in the universe repository
[01:50] <pinkisntwell> ok about ff, my problem now is the sound
[01:50] <czr> snorks, np :-). ah, I thought you were working on some network management software ;-)
[01:50] <bimberi> ubotu tell SpAwN about repositories
[01:50] <_jason> opnsrc, oh you are just asking about that functionality in nautilus, let me see if I can find that option
[01:51] <SpAwN> bimberi, this is my 1st time using a linux with apt-get
[01:51] <snorks> czr: No :) I'm doing bachelor of network management and security, and I plan to top it off with a masters
[01:51] <czr> snorks, because that's my hobby nowadays, that's why I asked
[01:51] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Why not use ALSA? Its fairly easy to compile.
[01:51] <SpAwN> ahh k
[01:51] <SpAwN> Biscuitian_Warhe, umm well i have that selected and it doesnt give me sound
[01:51] <snorks> czr: Ah, that is interesting. Got any url or something so I can look at it some time?
[01:51] <bimberi> SpAwN:  also there's a couple of wiki pages about soudn issues ...
[01:51] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: What verison of Ubuntu?
[01:51] <SpAwN> my puter seems to see my card
[01:51] <czr> snorks, build a L2-transparent NAT:ting firewall with custom linux distro, that will teach you a lot ;-)
[01:51] <bimberi> ubotu tell SpAwN about sound
[01:51] <_jason> opnsrc, in nautilus, edit _> preferences -> behavior.  Under "Executable Text Files" change that to run when clicked
[01:52] <SpAwN> ( Operating System ) Linux Ubuntu 5.10 - breezy Kernel: 2.6.12-9-686, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 6.8.2 | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.4.4
[01:52] <snorks> czr: heh, i still need to master cisco wildcars (!#%@!#@)
[01:52] <czr> snorks, nothing complete/worth showing yet. as I said, it's a hobby. not sure whether I will open source it.
[01:52] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Did you run alsaconf?
[01:52] <snorks> czr: wildcards
[01:52] <SpAwN> yes
[01:52] <opnsrc> no, the thing is it asks me what I want to do with it and one option is run. Even when I click run it does nothing
[01:52] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: What kind of card is it?
[01:52] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> unknown host hote.com
[01:52] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> matrix@ubuntu:~$ ping www.hote.com
[01:52] <matrix-ubuntu-cs> PING home.plugnet.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[01:52] <SpAwN> and i made sure it was unmuted and turnd up
[01:52] <czr> snorks, IOS is ok once you get used to it :-) just need practice with real environments
[01:52] <SpAwN> umm
[01:52] <oblib> has anyone used a parallel port scanner with Ubuntu? Anyone know about xsane in general? I need a backport and don't know how to install it
[01:52] <opnsrc> will this fix that?
[01:52] <SpAwN> 0000:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[01:53] <SpAwN> it came with my dell dimension 8400
[01:53] <LjL> oblib: i do know something about sane (not xsane in particular), but i have a usb scanner
[01:53] <snorks> czr: I feel I master most of the CCNA requirements when it comes to equipment, but wildcards is just a little hard
[01:53] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: What came up when you ran alsaconf?
[01:53] <Siph0n> Konqueror isnt an ftp client tho, right?
[01:53] <LjL> Siph0n: yes it is
[01:53] <snorks> czr: off head that is... can always cheat
[01:53] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Was there hdaintel by any chance?
[01:53] <czr> snorks, CCNA didn't have wildcards when I did it
[01:53] <czr> snorks, so I wouldn't know :-)
[01:53] <Siph0n> i got it, but dont see how its an ftp client :)
[01:53] <snorks> czr: Ah ok :-)
[01:54] <czr> although I think I'll do CCNP after new year
[01:54] <SpAwN> Biscuitian_Warhe, actualy i dont think i did
[01:54] <oblib> LjL, I take it that it worked off the bat for you?
[01:54] <SpAwN> i used alsamixer
[01:54] <_jason> opnsrc, this would stop it from asking you.  You should follow the wiki to get firefox to work.  The wiki guide basically sets up you profile directory correctly and makes the firefox command run the new version.
[01:54] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Could be a little start. Lol.
[01:54] <czr> otherwise my CCNA expires soon, not that I need it for anything
[01:54] <czr> CCNA is pretty worthless IMHO
[01:54] <SpAwN> alsaconf: command not found
[01:54] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: You gotta configure the card first.
[01:54] <snorks> czr: Well, think subnetting (or maybe reverse subnetting) with extensive use of block sizes. Again, it's easy if you wanna cheat
[01:54] <snorks> czr: if there is such a word
[01:54] <doublea> I now uninstalled the dvdcss package. It didn't have any effect on anything
[01:54] <czr> you mean CIDR?
[01:54] <snorks> czr: It's hard to explain
[01:54] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Did you try compiling the alsa-utils/alsa-lib/alsa-driver?
[01:54] <LjL> Siph0n: uh... i'm missing something here. you definitely *can* use ftp servers from konqueror, can't you?=
[01:55] <doublea> Still no functionality on menus.
[01:55] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Or installing alsautils in Synaptic
[01:55] <opnsrc> Ok, but, there is a file inside the firefox directory named firefox. When I double click this file firefox 1.5 should automatically run (it does with other distributions of linux)
[01:55] <LjL> oblib: no, it didn't. i had to compile and install a third-party driver
[01:55] <czr> Siph0n, Alt+F2: ftp://name.of.ftp.server/path
[01:55] <czr> or just write that into any address field in KDE/konqueror
[01:55] <Siph0n> but how do i set passive mode?
[01:55] <opnsrc> I don't want it such that every program I extract I need to go to a wiki page and type all this stuff. I want it such that I double click it and it runs, just like under kanotix
[01:55] <oblib> LjL, oh good. I have source for the driver I need (I think). Do I just run the make script and pray?
[01:55] <SpAwN> no Biscuitian_Warhe should i do both
[01:55] <SpAwN> or one or the other?
[01:55] <czr> Siph0n, good question. check kde control center setup
[01:55] <snorks> Siph0n: I really really recommend ncftp
[01:55] <opnsrc> or Redhat or anything else
[01:56] <LjL> oblib: it depends on the driver i suppose
[01:56] <czr> Siph0n, I'm not sure if you can, but that's the place where it should be if it's possible
[01:56] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Try Synaptic way first. Else, try good ol fashioned compiling :D
[01:56] <transgress> i like gftp compiled without gtks upport myself
[01:56] <_jason> opnsrc, it runs fine for me.  Try running that command in a terminal and see what it says.
[01:56] <transgress> *gtk
[01:56] <oblib> LjL, what is the command you use to scan?
[01:56] <czr> I use mc for ftp stuff, but I'm silly anyway
[01:56] <Siph0n> k thanx
[01:56] <caravena_> exit
[01:56] <LjL> oblib: scanimage, usually. but xsane works as well, and i sometimes use Kooka from here (my scanner is networked)
[01:56] <caravena_> exit
[01:57] <snorks> lol
[01:57] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Wow. Im glad I got this Serial modem. Linuxant really stunk.
[01:57] <czr> caravena_, add / before the command ;-)
[01:57] <snorks> cisco flashbacks
[01:57] <oblib> do you have to pass it a parameter to tell it how to find the driver?
[01:57] <opnsrc> bash: firefox: command not found
[01:57] <czr> snorks, most other vendors use similar interfaces nowadays for managed network stuff
[01:57] <opnsrc> Now under my kanotix CD it just runs
[01:57] <opnsrc> no problem
[01:58] <LjL> Siph0n: control center / internet / connection preferences has an option
[01:58] <aedes> has anyone used cupsaddsmb? its asking for a pass but I don't know which pass I need to give it
[01:58] <lampshade> anyone running centrino with the default ubuntu 5.10 distribution or live cd?  Got a quick question for you.  Just wondering if that particular version of the ipw2200 driver supports monitor mode (Since I know the drier does now but I'm not sure it made Ubuntu in time)
[01:58] <_jason> opnsrc, ./firefox
[01:59] <opnsrc> ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:59] <opnsrc> (btw, thanks)
[01:59] <LjL> opnsrc: sudo aptitude install libstdc++5
[01:59] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Anyone know anything about WINE?
[01:59] <snorks> czr: without wildcards, how did you set a certain range of IP addresses to permit/deny in cisco ACLs?
[01:59] <LjL> !tell Biscuitian_Warhe about anyone
[02:00] <opnsrc> There it goes
[02:00] <czr> <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS> for example
[02:00] <opnsrc> Now it runs. FINALLY!!!
[02:00] <opnsrc> Thanks so much
[02:00] <czr> that will always work, although it is a bit tedious. I prefer using CIDR: <IP_ADDRESS>/17 in that case
[02:00] <HrdwrBoB> CIDR++
[02:00] <czr> anyhow, ipv6 uses same notation
[02:00] <oblib> LjL, do you have to pass it a parameter to tell it how to find the driver?
[02:01] <doublea> What do I need to play dvd with dts audio?
[02:01] <_jason> opnsrc, yw... dinner time now, cya
[02:01] <czr> for 'netmak'
[02:01] <czr> mask even :-)
[02:01] <LjL> oblib: no, but i do have to edit /etc/sane.d/dll.conf
[02:01] <opnsrc> K, enjoy
[02:01] <opnsrc> thanks _jason and everyone else
[02:01] <czr> doublea, a dts decoder?
[02:01] <czr> doublea, in software obviously
[02:01] <snorks> czr: Thanks for pointing out stuff I really need to work on :) Have some kind of exam 16th dec
[02:02] <navarone> doublea> did mplayer work?
[02:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: How's it coming along?
[02:02] <czr> snorks, get a prep book for CCNA if you're feeling shaky
[02:02] <logical_mark> Hey guys what do I install for DVD Playback. I looked on UbunutGuide.org but the package it refrences dosn't exist anymore in the repositories
[02:02] <bimberi> ubotu tell logical_mark about dvd
[02:02] <czr> snorks, sybex had a decent one. just make sure the prep book is not out of date wrt the CCNA exam numbers
[02:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> libcss Somthing.
[02:02] <snorks> czr: I have the latest sybex ccba study guide
[02:03] <czr> I'm sure it explains how to use CIDR-notation then
[02:03] <oblib> LjL, my device is listed in dll.conf, but it is commented out. Does that mean that I just have to uncomment it?
[02:03] <snorks> czr: it's not a ccna tho, it's a self-made exam in my school about general networking and some cisco management
[02:03] <tyler> If i download nvidia-glx through SPM, are those the best possible nvidia drivers available for ubuntu? Because the ones on the nvidia site are way larger...
[02:03] <snorks> czr: however, I still want to ace it
[02:03] <czr> snorks, ah. then I really don't know whether the prep book helps. do you get CCNA certification from the school then?
[02:04] <LjL> oblib: yes. and if i were in you, i'd comment out all the rest, just to be sure
[02:04] <czr> snorks, or are you taking the 'cisco academy' thingy?
[02:04] <Biscuitian_Warhe> What are the best ATI drivers.. I can seem to get acceleration...
[02:04] <snorks> czr: Neither
[02:04] <tyler> Ive got my ccna :P
[02:04] <tyler> expired actually
[02:04] <doublea> navarone, nope. I can watch the movies but the menus and navigation don't work.
[02:04] <LjL> !tell Biscuitian_Warhe about ATI
[02:04] <snorks> czr: I'm from norway. We can do 2 years here, which are fully accredited at Univ. of Glamorgans' Bachelor of Network Management and Security
[02:04] <snorks> czr: then 3rd year is in Wales
[02:05] <builder> how would I reference stdin from a shell script? in other words if I want to do `cat myfile.txt | my-script.sh`, how would I reference the input from my-script.sh?
[02:05] <tyler> Are the nVidia graphics drivers at nvidia.com better than the nVidia-glx drivers from the SPM?
[02:05] <czr> snorks, right. good for you :-)
[02:05] <oblib> LjL, I run xsane plustek_pp:/dev/lp0 and it reports I/O error. Do you know if there is a problem with that? Is lp0 the parallel port, or does Ubuntu use /dev/parport?
[02:05] <czr> snorks, just do something useful with your time. don't leave it at CCNA :-). ccna is too common to be of any use
[02:05] <snorks> czr: So these 2 years holds no nationalized tests. Just stuff to prepare us for year 3
[02:05] <LjL> builder: can you rephrase that? i'm not sure what you mean. your "my-script.sh" takes input from stdin? and you want to do what?
[02:05] <snorks> czr: errr. international
[02:06] <navarone> doublea> i got dvd working for playback two nights ago...did not try any of the dvd menus tho...just played start to finish without looking for chapters
[02:06] <czr> snorks, how long is the program if one wants to do masters?
[02:06] <LjL> oblib: i suppose lp0 should be fine. try scanimage instead of xsane, though
[02:06] <snorks> czr: 4 years if you wanna spend year 4 doing nothing but masters. Most, however, chose 5 years
[02:06] <LjL> oblib: "scanimage -L" in particular, and also, "sane-find-scanner"
[02:06] <czr> snorks, heh ok. I'm on my 9th year at school ;-)
[02:06] <oblib> scanimage: setting of option --br-x failed (Invalid argument)
[02:06] <snorks> czr: A nice thing is that MI5 recruits master-doers from that univ
[02:06] <czr> didn't go there for 5 of them though now
[02:06] <vbgunz> does gtk-gnutella work any more?
[02:06] <czr> what is so nice about MI5?
[02:07] <snorks> not sure. but it excites me
[02:07] <navarone> vbgunz...yes...i was using it today
[02:07] <czr> snorks, you need to get a life ;-)
[02:07] <LjL> oblib: try giving it "-l 1 -t 1 -x 1 -y 1"
[02:07] <oblib> sane-find-scanner (and I assume scanimage -L) doesn't search the parallel port
[02:07] <vbgunz> navarone: what version do you have?
[02:07] <czr> although don't ask me about it, I've not seen life for many years :-)
[02:07] <oblib> They both default to findign my TV card and scanning images from the TV
[02:07] <snorks> the nailing hackers in a secret service type of way just fascinates me. like on TV
[02:07] <navarone> vbgunz> .95.4
[02:08] <snorks> czr: hehe
[02:08] <doublea> navarone, dvd-playback worked straightaway without menus. And now the dts-sounds seem to be a problem
[02:08] <LjL> oblib: scanimage -L should list all the devices that are supposed to be correctly set-up and working
[02:08] <mzinz> How do i get my home, computer, and other icons on the desktop?
[02:08] <vbgunz> navarone: I have 95.4 stable... But am told it is an old version. I am doing simple searches and nothing is returning...
[02:08] <czr> snorks, it's not that exciting. especially if you're using wrong terminology ;-) (hacker = computer enthusiast, cracker = people who crack into other ppls' systems)
[02:08] <navarone> vbgunz...it gives me same message at bottom...but no problem searching
[02:08] <vbgunz> navarone: :(
[02:08] <snorks> czr: Well, I was a loser at my previous schools. You know thos common high schools and stuff. Didn't interest me at all. But networking really makes me shine
[02:08] <mzinz> Does anyonek now how to make icons appear on desktop?
[02:09] <navarone> vbgunz...how many ultrapeers you have connected?
[02:09] <vbgunz> navarone: it was never like this
[02:09] <LjL> !tell mzinz about desktop-icons
[02:09] <czr> snorks, and if this would have been a channel not related to unix/linux anyway, I would have let the 'hacker' pass ;-)
[02:09] <vbgunz> navarone: pref is connect to 3 *but* I think only one is connected
[02:09] <czr> snorks, wait until you start thinking about queue-theory in QoS. that will make you wish that you would have been more interested in math before :-)
[02:09] <jonathon> hello i need some help working out my java
[02:09] <czr> snorks, networking is quite fun at the start
[02:09] <snorks> czr: Well, I've tried saying cracker in real life. And people are like "what?". So I've stopped
[02:09] <vbgunz> but the host is <IP_ADDRESS>:54771
[02:10] <navarone> vbgunz> I default to 4 ultras...adn i usually wait for them all to connect before doing any searches
[02:10] <czr> snorks, you need to select the correct word depending on who you say it to :-)
[02:10] <snorks> czr: But I'm well aware of it
[02:10] <vbgunz> something is wrong, why am I not connected...?
[02:10] <czr> snorks, good :-). we need to educate people ;-)
[02:10] <czr> although I've long ago given up on educating people
[02:10] <czr> but you're still young ;-)
[02:10] <matt__> hey, can anyone help with setting up a wifi card?
[02:11] <jonathon> i installed java then i installed limewire and it says there is no java but when i type java -version in the console it says
[02:11] <jonathon> ts installed
[02:11] <mzinz> LjL, I can't find the apps directory?
[02:11] <navarone> vbgunz...go to Gnutella-net tab and clear all the cahces at bottom right that may help
[02:11] <czr> urgh. 5.10 is still using xf86?
[02:11] <snorks> How will I know if they know enough to be taught the difference between hacker and cracker?
[02:11] <czr> snorks, if you speak to people on a linux-related channel, that is a big clue :-)
[02:11] <navarone> vbgunz> sry...Gnutella Net/Hostcache
[02:12] <vbgunz> navarone: I cannot clear anything... they all seemed to be cleared already
[02:12] <LjL> mzinz: it's not a directory. you should run the GConf Editor and change some keys. those are keys
[02:12] <snorks> czr: #ubuntu, sure?
[02:12] <mzinz> LjL, ohh
[02:12] <czr> snorks, #ubuntu has something to do with linux, I think ;-)
[02:12] <navarone> vbgunz> how many connecting currently?
[02:12] <snorks> czr: you get my point
[02:12] <jonathon> yo anyone got limewire installed/
[02:12] <czr> sure, and you get mine :-)
[02:12] <mzinz> LjL, wheres the editor at? sorry
[02:12] <snorks> yes
[02:13] <vbgunz> navarone: I never messed with this app before but just once and it seemed to work perfectly.... Now though, nothing different and it seems not to be connected at alll... I couldn't clear the cache either :(
[02:13] <eric> I have reinstalled firefox twice through Synaptic and it still WILL NOT start, I get the following error even if I uninstall firefox rm -fr ~/.mozilla and reboot and reinstall firefox: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5288
[02:13] <matt__> Trying to get either a prisim3 USB WiFi or broadcom PCMCIA adapter working.
[02:13] <matt__> any tips?
[02:13] <eric> has anyone ever seen that error?
[02:13] <Biscuitian_Warhe> eric: Why not just compile it or d/l it from mozilla.org?
[02:13] <czr> ah, I thought that 5.10 was broken. but nay, it is I who is broken
[02:14] <navarone> vbgunz> hmm..try shutting down gnutella and restarting...<?>
[02:14] <eric> Biscuitian_Warhe, cause its easier to mange and upgrade packages through mozilla
[02:14] <eric> Anyone got any other ideas
[02:14] <Biscuitian_Warhe> eric:...?
[02:14] <mzinz> I have a dell inspiron 5150 laptop.  Where in the SPM could I find drivers for my wireless network card?
[02:14] <eric> Biscuitian_Warhe, i meant easier to manage and upgrade packages through synaptic and apt get
[02:14] <vbgunz> navarone: I just did that... I could have sworn remember seeing a whole list of servers under GnutellaNet Connections but nothing is in there at all anymore... Is that right?
[02:14] <jonathon> is it my imagination or does gnome run alot quicker than kde
[02:15] <LjL> mzinz: i'm not sure where it is in the menus, but run "gconf-editor" from a shell
[02:15] <Biscuitian_Warhe> eric: True.. but where's the "Linux Thrill".. Lol
[02:15] <mzinz> LjL, k
[02:15] <LjL> mzinz: if that doesn't work, then you don't have it installed, in which case, "sudo aptitude install gconf-editor"
[02:15] <navarone> vbgunz> I have five connections...my own and 4 ultrapeers
[02:15] <oblib> LjL, so I commented out all the other drivers and it says no scanners found
[02:15] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jonathon: KDE = Special effects which in turn = Lower memory
[02:15] <vbgunz> navarone: your own is <IP_ADDRESS>:*?
[02:15] <snorks> czr: I haven't used vmware very much, but how good is it?
[02:16] <eric> Biscuitian_Warhe, i meant easier to manage and upgrade packages through synaptic and apt get
[02:16] <eric> I have reinstalled firefox twice through Synaptic and it still WILL NOT start, I get the following error even if I uninstall firefox rm -fr ~/.mozilla and reboot and reinstall firefox: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5288
[02:16] <navarone> vbgunz...no...my own is my ip address...
[02:16] <rjek> Evening.
[02:16] <mzinz> I have a dell inspiron 5150 laptop.  Where in the SPM could I find drivers for my wireless network card?
[02:16] <czr> Biscuitian_Warhe, all the effects can be disabled which make kde faster than gnome though
[02:16] <jonathon> is c better than c++?
[02:16] <LjL> oblib: i dunno :(
[02:16] <czr> snorks, it is good
[02:16] <snorks> czr: Thanks :) Just the answer I wanted
[02:16] <czr> snorks, best virtualization software for x86
[02:16] <SpAwN> Biscuitian_Warhe, i have alsa-utils installed but i still cant use alsaconf
[02:16] <czr> snorks, except for fringe cases
[02:16] <vbgunz> hmmm... I know my IP but the one in my list starts with <IP_ADDRESS>* I thought that IP represented me... man, I really feel ambushed :P
[02:17] <czr> snorks, if you'd want to run linux under linux, then probably uml or xen might be enough
[02:17] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Did you do it through Synaptic? Or did you try compiling yet?
[02:17] <snorks> czr: the vmware client for linux, it's good aswell?
[02:17] <rjek> Anybody familier with random X server crashes under Breezy AMD64 that didn't occur under Hoary?  I'm using the closed NVIDIA drivers, as the free ones cause screen corruption (I've not tried using them long enough to see if they also crash.)  Windows doesn't fail on the same hardware.
[02:17] <czr> snorks, but setting them up requires quite a lot of tinkering. vmware is simple and easy
[02:17] <SpAwN> i used synaptic
[02:17] <oblib> LjL, thanks for trying
[02:17] <czr> snorks, err, not vmware client. just vmware :-)
[02:17] <fangorious> does having 'map eth1' in the 'mapping hotplug' section of /etc/network/interfaces mean eth1 will be brought up when the hotplug system is loaded at boot?
[02:17] <LjL> snorks: it's not a client. i think it's as good as the one for windows anyway
[02:17] <SpAwN> so i should download it tar.gz
[02:17] <mzinz> LjL, i checked all of the boxes but there still isn't anything on my desktop.  I double checked also.
[02:17] <SpAwN> any idea whats it called or where i can dl it
[02:17] <czr> snorks, runs better on linux than on windows because windows is unstable anyway (based on my 6 years vmware experience at least)
[02:17] <oblib> Anyone know what the default parallel port is called in Ubuntu? /dev/lp0 or /dev/parport?
[02:17] <vbgunz> navarone: maybe uninstalling it?
[02:18] <navarone> vbgunz> does it show your ip address in preferences/network?
[02:18] <snorks> czr: Ok, nice :-)
[02:18] <vbgunz> navarone: no
[02:18] <LjL> mzinz: hmm... i don't actually have Gnome installed, so i wouldn't be sure :\
[02:18] <vbgunz> navarone: put my ip[ in there and force it?
[02:18] <navarone> vbgunz...what options you have set in network?
[02:18] <czr> I've run production windows-boxes inside vmware on top of linux so that they don't trip over all the time. even windows is almost rock solid that way ;-)
[02:19] <mzinz> Is there a simple way to enable my wireless card?
[02:19] <vbgunz> navarone: listen port 54771 and udp checked... everything else, well nothing else checked
[02:19] <redeeman> anyone here using snd-usb-audio?
[02:19] <Chris_in_the_uk> hey guys, looking for help with a postfix on ubuntu 5.10 error - the error log is here http://pastebin.com/445620.  Any ideas, give us a shout
[02:19] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Hold on.
[02:19] <SpAwN> Biscuitian_Warhe,  k np
[02:19] <LjL> mzinz: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/faqsection_view?section=Using%20Ubuntu  <--- this says it's actually /apps/nautilus/general
[02:19] <quacker> Hmmm... what do you guys recommend for a console port comm program  for Ubuntu (to connect to DTE like routers and external modems)?
[02:19] <rjek> quacker: minicom works for me.
[02:20] <navarone> vbgunz...hmmm..my listen port is different but I don't think that's an issue
[02:20] <rjek> quacker: There's a GNOME GUI thingy too, but I forget its name.
[02:20] <czr> hmm. there was a simpler one. minicom is a modem control program really
[02:20] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN:www.alsa-project.org/
[02:20] <vbgunz> navarone: maybe uninstalling it will help? I only used it once before *but* now it is acting as if something is really messed up...
[02:20] <czr> although I must confess I end up using minicom too because I forget the other sw name all the time ;-)
[02:20] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Get the tar.gzs for alsa-driver, alsa-lib, and alsa-utils.. should all be 1.09x
[02:20] <Red-Sox> how does ubuntu pay the bills?
[02:20] <mzinz> LjL, thanks.  maybe i just need a restart.  there is no /apps/nautils/general directory btw, heh
[02:20] <SpAwN> ah thanks alot Biscuitian_Warhe
[02:20] <navarone> vbgunz> in gnutella net tab in preferences are you set to auto configure mode?
[02:21] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Red-Sox: Day jobs?
[02:21] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Still gotta get through the compiling though.. Lol
[02:21] <SpAwN> hehe
[02:21] <SpAwN> yea
[02:21] <vbgunz> navarone: yes :(
[02:21] <vbgunz> navarone:  I am going to try reinstall
[02:21] <LjL> mzinz: yeah i suppose you should definitely try restarting X
[02:21] <vbgunz> navarone: I hope that works
[02:21] <navarone> vbgunz...okie...good luck
[02:21] <czr> Red-Sox, canonical and volunteer work of debian and other projects
[02:22] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Ahh..crud...
[02:22] <Red-Sox> czr: what about the ShipIt CDs?
[02:22] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Anyone have any trouble installing xorg-driver-fglrx.
[02:22] <czr> Red-Sox, I'd imagine canonical pays for them. although I don't really know. look for people who actually work for canonical
[02:22] <czr> Red-Sox, shuttleworth has a lot of money :-)
[02:22] <Biscuitian_Warhe> It gives me an error about clashing with diversion of libGl.so.1
[02:22] <Red-Sox> czr: i dont have the money to make a generous donation, I only have $10, but I can donate that
[02:23] <Red-Sox> czr: im just a kid ;)
[02:23] <czr> Red-Sox, you can donate your time then. help writing documentation or helping people
[02:23] <existance> !ATI
[02:23] <ubotu> somebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:23] <Red-Sox> czr: im not nearly expeirenced enough, iv been giving out CDs, if that helps
[02:24] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Red-Sox: I know the feeling..
[02:24] <czr> Red-Sox, I'm not the right person to answer these questions though
[02:24] <Red-Sox> czr: i suppose I could write documents... wikis about stuff i know about
[02:24] <czr> Red-Sox, wikis are a simple start
[02:24] <Red-Sox> Biscuitian_Warhe: are you in 7th grade too
[02:24] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Red-Sox.. No, 9th, but I was once in the 7th. :-P
[02:25] <Red-Sox> Biscuitian_Warhe: yes, i c
[02:25] <snorks> Red-Sox: Just don't stop/give up
[02:25] <vbgunz> navarone: don't get it, I uninstalled/restarted gtk-gnutella and still have problems with it... I really don't get it. It worked once for me just fine... now, problems :(
[02:25] <Red-Sox> snorks: no chance of that
[02:25] <snorks> Red-Sox: I'm older than you, and I wish I started at your age
[02:25] <vbgunz> navarone: on your front tab "gnutella connections tab" do you see a list of connections or only one?
[02:26] <Red-Sox> snorks: started what>
[02:26] <Red-Sox> ?*
[02:26] <Red-Sox> ducky_: hello
[02:26] <snorks> Red-Sox: Linux.. networking. Developing an interest for that sort of things. And stay away from games
[02:26] <snorks> Red-Sox: Especially MMORPGs
[02:26] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I wish I started younger.. I can't believe I once believed in Windows.
[02:26] <Kayde> i need help w/th ubuntu
[02:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Kayde: Thats a good start.
[02:27] <z3r0x> hi guys
[02:27] <Kayde> ?
[02:27] <snorks> Red-Sox: But don't forget to be your age :)
[02:27] <niggpie> The default bittorrent client is downloading extremely slowly (like <1kb/s).  How do I change it's default port to the one I've opened up in the router?
[02:27] <SpAwN> hmm i still get checking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist. ...im pretty sure i installed the right kernel-source...in synaptic now i dont even see the same version as when i do uname -a ...and i need this to compile :/
[02:27] <navarone> vbgunz> I have connections listed...as a matter of fact I am dl'ing songs as we type
[02:27] <n0dl> how do i mount a dvd r?
[02:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Did you install the headers?
[02:27] <Red-Sox> snorks: games... oops! im building a gaming computer as we speek er... speak*
[02:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: There on your Breezy Disk.
[02:27] <z3r0x> I have a little problem. I installed an irc bot at home on my server but I can't connect over DCC from outside. The bot is working it is connecting to the channel. Does anybody know what port I have to open?
[02:27] <vbgunz> navarone: :(
[02:28] <navarone> nodl> it should automount when you insert in drive
[02:28] <vbgunz> navarone: good for you though ;)
[02:28] <SpAwN> hmm i need ..umm kernel headers?
[02:28] <snorks> Red-Sox: Just stay away from everquest and world of warcraft and games like that
[02:28] <n0dl> navarone, even if i am using xfce?
[02:28] <Kayde> i have a problem-i have uzzy stuff at bottom of ubuntu screen
[02:28] <navarone> vbgunz> where are you in world?
[02:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Yeah.
[02:28] <vbgunz> Florida America
[02:28] <crschmidt> If you're going to format a 300GB drive, which will store about 30GB of mp3s and about 270GB of movies... what filesystem do you use?
[02:28] <Kayde> can i show screen shot?
[02:28] <Red-Sox> snorks: i have never heard of them... i play arcade games and also some spacey-type games
[02:28] <snorks> Red-Sox: Excellent :)
[02:28] <navarone> nodl...no idea about xfce...but it installs fstab editor...maybe you can get the drives to mount there
[02:29] <Kayde> can some1 assist me ?!
[02:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Red-Sox: Yes, be careful of MMORPGS.. life sucking they are...
[02:29] <SpAwN> hmm synaptic says i already have them installed
[02:29] <existance> i have a pci and an agp graphics card/ monitors for them.  I can only get a display on the PCI one, how can i make the AGP the primary?
[02:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Kayde: Whats the problem.
[02:29] <n0dl> what does this mean? mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd
[02:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Did you ever compile anything else?
[02:29] <crschmidt> n0dl: you probably want to mount /dev/hdd<number>
[02:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> n0dl: What are you trying to mount?
[02:29] <SpAwN> i have yes
[02:29] <SpAwN> on mandriva
[02:29] <snorks> Red-Sox: I spent 5 years playing EverQuest, I was in a guild (clan) that is now the best in the world. It screwed my "education" over. Luckily I'm doing an interesting education now
[02:29] <Red-Sox> i dont think ill be playing any
[02:29] <n0dl> Biscuitian_Warhe, a dvd r
[02:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: No I mean on this current system.
[02:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Oh
[02:30] <SpAwN> ive compiled several programs
[02:30] <SpAwN> ohh no
[02:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> n0dl: Can't help you there.
[02:30] <SpAwN> i havent been ablt to
[02:30] <existance> i have a pci and an agp graphics card/ monitors for them.  I can only get a display on the PCI one, how can i make the AGP the primary?
[02:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Alrite
[02:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Hold on a tick.
[02:30] <navarone> vbgunz...try disabling the udp option and see if that helps
[02:30] <SpAwN> np
[02:30] <Kayde> warhe...private chat
[02:30] <Red-Sox> snorks: i will stay away, i want to go to William and Mary and study law, world of warcraft wont get me there
[02:30] <niggpie> I'm using the default Bittorrent client for Ubuntu.  Can someone tell me what port it is using by default?  How can I change this port?  I can't seem to find the option anywhere.. please help! :)
[02:30] <The_Isle_of_Mark> existance check that your primary card is agp in thew bios
[02:30] <snorks> Red-Sox: Good! You passed the exam. Good luck with lawschool
[02:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Kayde: Why? Why not ask your question out to all of us?
[02:30] <SpAwN> i just reinstalled the headers..let me try again...i think it upgraded them or somthing
[02:31] <existance> The_Isle_of_Mark, it is in Windows, so shouldn't it be here?
[02:31] <n0dl> crcshmidt how do i check which number my hdd is?
[02:31] <Red-Sox> snorks: what exam?
[02:31] <SpAwN> crap nope...still same error
[02:31] <snorks> Red-Sox: The exam of telling me the correct answer
[02:31] <n0dl> crcshmidt i mean my dvd rom is?
[02:31] <czr> snorks, http://koltsoff.com/wtf2.png
[02:31] <vbgunz> navarone: I just completely unstalled it again... the first time reinstall picked up on all the old settings...  If windows is set to have it as primary, it is software
[02:32] <n0dl> does anyone here know how to mount a dvd?
[02:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Alrite, pop in the breezy disk, and navigate to the pool folder on it.
[02:32] <Kayde> lookat scfreen shot...
[02:32] <navarone> vbgunz...yeah...uninstall config files as well
[02:32] <existance> The_Isle_of_Mark, mm, i'll go check then
[02:32] <Kayde> fuzzy at bottom of screen
[02:32] <Kayde> cant read
[02:32] <SpAwN> k one sec Biscuitian_Warhe
[02:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Kayde: Try your AutoSet button on your monitor.
[02:33] <Kayde> its a laptop
[02:33] <vbgunz> navarone: hmm.. the connection is the same... the only thing now I see different is the port is now 46766
[02:33] <Kayde> and it dosnt have
[02:33] <SpAwN> Biscuitian_Warhe, k im there
[02:33] <vbgunz> what port do you have instead of <IP_ADDRESS> represting yoursef;? 127*, 192* or a public IP address?
[02:33] <Kayde> ...
[02:34] <Red-Sox> snorks: i dont think i would be allowed to play games like that anyway
[02:34] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Alrite, cd to main/l/linux-source-2.6.12
[02:34] <snorks> Red-Sox: because of parental guidance?
[02:34] <Kayde> is there a auto select driver?
[02:34] <navarone> vbgunz...I have my dynamic ip used.
[02:34] <Red-Sox> snorks: yes, sir
[02:34] <Kayde> or somthing to auto do it?
[02:34] <jason0_> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a resized windows partition, however it won't seem to take it. When I resize a partition it says unusable. I have 3 partitions windows, fc4, and now ubuntu, any ideas?
[02:34] <vbgunz> navarone: ok
[02:35] <snorks> Red-Sox: Well they are rather non-violent. But that is about 0,001% of the damaging part
[02:35] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jason0_: A partition table can only have 4 primary partitions.
[02:35] <snorks> Red-Sox: They steal time. And lots of it.
[02:35] <Red-Sox> snorks: oh, what do I know?
[02:35] <rohan> hello
[02:35] <jason0_> Biscuitian_Warhe: Interesting... So that is per drive then, correct?
[02:35] <Red-Sox> snorks: time is a good thing ;)
[02:35] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Kayde: Im not sure there...
[02:35] <Red-Sox> rohan: hi
[02:35] <SpAwN> Biscuitian_Warhe, k
[02:35] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jason0_:Yeah, it is.
[02:35] <snorks> Red-Sox: I'm glad you don't, really :) You can play them once you're a lawyer
[02:35] <IRCsloth> is it possible to tell ubuntu dpkg to ignore a package? The update tool it trying to update a custom package with a vanilla package from the repos
[02:35] <Kayde> it worked on wondows xp etc
[02:36] <Kayde> **windows**
[02:36] <czr> Biscuitian_Warhe, technically a classic pc partition table can have only 4 partition entries
[02:36] <Red-Sox> snorks: lol
[02:36] <Red-Sox> snorks: not in my office ;P
[02:36] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Now, sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386_2.6.12-9.23_i386.deb
[02:36] <czr> Biscuitian_Warhe, if a partition type is 5, it means that there is another partition table to be read starting from the location of this partition on disk :-)
[02:36] <snorks> Red-Sox: Hehe. Once you're done with education and got a job is what I meant.
[02:36] <Red-Sox> snorks: i know
[02:36] <Red-Sox> lol
[02:37] <vbgunz> navarone: your gnutella hostcache... in your list do you have numbers OR 0's all around the board on that screen?
[02:37] <snorks> Red-Sox: Name some of the games you play. Of course you know
[02:37] <Biscuitian_Warhe> czr: You mean Youcan have more partition tables on a hdd?
[02:37] <czr> Biscuitian_Warhe, technically. blame dos 2.1 for mucking up all the terminology
[02:37] <benkong2> where is the boot splash located in breezy?
[02:37] <Red-Sox> snorks: i enjoy pac-man, battlezone II, galaga, dig dug
[02:37] <snorks> benkong2: wild shot, maybe /boot/grub. i have no idea
[02:38] <Red-Sox> snorks: and star wats battlefront II
[02:38] <bimberi> IRCsloth: in synaptic you can "Lock Version" a package (via the Package menu).  I'm not totally sure what it does but it does look promising for what you want :)
[02:38] <czr> Biscuitian_Warhe, a partition table can only fit 4. ever. hence if you have 'extended', it actually means that the extended ones are listed in another partition table
[02:38] <navarone> vbgunz> I have 100 regular host, 48% ultrapeers and a few bad hosts in cache
[02:38] <Biscuitian_Warhe> benkong2: Search for Usplash
[02:38] <snorks> benkong2: I was wrong
[02:38] <Kayde> IS there and auto dectect functions on this>??
[02:38] <IRCsloth> bimberi: thanks a lot
[02:38] <jason0_> So if I use the installer to resize an existing ntfs partition on another drive I should be okay? Is it going to screw up my existing grub config?
[02:38] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: It working out for you?
[02:39] <SpAwN> no
[02:39] <SpAwN> ill pasting in pastebin
[02:39] <vbgunz> navarone: nothing can get me more upset than this :( No real reason why it should not work yet it acts retarded...
[02:39] <benkong2> Biscuitian_Warhe; snorks; thanks there is no splashimage line in menu.lst so i want to add one but i don't know where the current one is loading from
[02:39] <czr> resizing ntfs fails sometimes even with commercial tools
[02:39] <SpAwN> Biscuitian_Warhe,  http://pastebin.com/445654
[02:39] <bimberi> IRCsloth: np :)
[02:39] <Biscuitian_Warhe> No one likes NTFS.
[02:39] <jason0_> czr: Ive had luck in the past.
[02:39] <SpAwN> yea use vfat
[02:39] <Red-Sox> snorks: do you know any of them?
[02:39] <SpAwN> ntfs is no good
[02:39] <czr> jason0_, indeed
[02:40] <snorks> Red-Sox: No, only know the names. I only played mmorpgs
[02:40] <Kayde> c-mon is there another chat i can get tech help w/th?
[02:40] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Oh sorry dude, my bad.
[02:40] <czr> Kayde, what's your problem?
[02:40] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Lemme get you the other thing first.
[02:40] <navarone> vbgunz> I will give you url to install phex...it si client for gnutella that runs in java...if you have java installed already it will work fine. It is a bit more user friendly than the basic gnutella-gtk
[02:40] <SpAwN> wrong version?
[02:40] <Red-Sox> snorks: exactly how old are you?
[02:40] <SpAwN> ahh k
[02:40] <snorks> Red-Sox: 21
[02:40] <vbgunz> my gnutellanet connections is completely empty, my hostcache is 0's all around the board... It isn't even like I use gtk-gnutella but only once... Never configured it or anything... this shouldn't be happening...
[02:40] <snorks> Red-Sox: saying 22 would be more correct
[02:40] <Kayde> my monitor is fuzzy i have a laptop
[02:40] <Red-Sox> snorks: oh, okay,
[02:40] <snorks> Red-Sox: you?
[02:40] <Red-Sox> snorks: i am 12
[02:41] <SpAwN> Kayde, probly the refresh
[02:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-2.6.12-9_2.6.12-9.23_i386.deb
[02:41] <czr> Kayde, you have an external monitor connected to a laptop? or you mean the built-in flat screen of laptop?
[02:41] <Kayde> ive restarted it 5 times
[02:41] <SpAwN> i had that prob with this puter
[02:41] <frogzoo> !kismet
[02:41] <Kayde> built-in flat screen of laptop?
[02:41] <ubotu> frogzoo: What?
[02:41] <vbgunz> navarone: thanks, I'll take the url and if worse comes to worse will check it out, although I wuold like to keep gtk-gnutella
[02:41] <sethk> Kayde, as SpAwN said, some laptops do weird things if the refresh isn't set to 60
[02:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Just a little dependecy thing.. I forget the thing all the time.
[02:41] <snorks> Red-Sox: you'll have about 9 years of hands-on linux experience compared to me, if you don't give up :) I find that very cool
[02:41] <Kayde> it is set to 60mhtz
[02:41] <SpAwN> ahh now i can install the 1st thing right?
[02:41] <snorks> Red-Sox: when you reach my age I mean
[02:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Kayde: Try jumping it up a bit
[02:41] <sethk> Kayde, I doubt it, but it may be set to 60 hz  :)
[02:41] <Red-Sox> snorks: i dont really have an alternative to linux
[02:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Yeah
[02:42] <czr> Kayde, the screen of laptop. you can normally also connect another monitor to laptops. that's why I ask
[02:42] <snorks> Red-Sox: Ah. Lawschool... legit win xp copies. Gotcha
[02:42] <czr> Kayde, set where?
[02:42] <Kayde> yea ...is=i know, i have norm laptop
[02:42] <_jason> Red-Sox, 12... bah wish I hadn't wasted so much of my time on windows and installed linux like you at the age of 12
[02:42] <sethk> Kayde, we're talking about the vertical, now, not the horizontal
[02:42] <SpAwN> yea Kayde i had to add 2 lines to my xorg.conf
[02:42] <benkong2> how can i turn dma on in breezy? hdparm -d1 done as root says permission denied
[02:42] <germancito> hello
[02:42] <Kayde> it is 60mhtz
[02:42] <czr> 60Hz?
[02:42] <sethk> benkong2, use sudo
[02:42] <Red-Sox> snorks, _jason: I am boycotting windows for several reasons ;)
[02:42] <sethk> Kayde, no, it isn't
[02:42] <SpAwN> hmm i had the 2 lines written donw some where
[02:42] <germancito> please tell me how to get rid of the hda1 and hda7 links on my Deskyop
[02:42] <sethk> Kayde, there is no such thing as _any_ video setting in the  mhz range
[02:43] <Kayde>  we're talking about the vertical, now, not the horizontal??? i am confused
[02:43] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Yeargh. I can't install the xorg ati drivers bcuz of the nvidia ones.. and I can't get rid of the nvidia ones.. yeargh.
[02:43] <snorks> Red-Sox: You fascinate me
[02:43] <SpAwN> there like Vertrefrsh and Horizrefrsh....
[02:43] <sethk> Kayde, I think you are talking about the card's clock frequency
[02:43] <guru54_> lol snorks
[02:43] <sethk> Kayde, which is irrelevant
[02:43] <benkong2> sethk; how do i make it permanet?
[02:43] <Red-Sox> snorks: why?
[02:43] <snorks> well he does
[02:43] <navarone> vbgunz...yeah gnutella-gtk is nice...although i have nota  clue how to use the filters yet
[02:43] <sethk> benkong2, it's very odd that it isn'
[02:43] <sethk> benkong2, it's very odd that it isn't the default
[02:43] <czr> kayde, what happens if you comment both of the frequency lines in the config? and also, did it work before?
[02:43] <guru54_> i know many kids like him snorks
[02:43] <sethk> benkong2, see if it works, first
[02:43] <_jason> Red-Sox, *cough* if only you were a yankees fan too
[02:43] <SpAwN> Biscuitian_Warhe, they both installed fine thanks
[02:43] <dpupp-away> benkong2: sudo hdparam -d1 /dev/cdrom0
[02:43] <benkong2> sethk; ok
[02:43] <dpupp-away> benkong2: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom0
[02:43] <Kayde> i am confused! and yes it worked on Windows XP pro
[02:43] <benkong2> k
[02:43] <Red-Sox> _jason: lol, 2004 world champs
[02:43] <existance> !Nvidia
[02:44] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:44] <sethk> benkong2, many cds don't do dma
[02:44] <vbgunz> navarone: I got your message, thanks! If gtk-gnutella insist on acting up, I'll check the alternatives although I really would like to keep it :(
[02:44] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Alrite, extract the alsa folders, do the driver first, then lib, then utils
[02:44] <snorks> Red-Sox: Because you've discovered the path of true inner peace at the age of 12. It's fascinating
[02:44] <czr> benkong2, some cdromd/dvdroms are broken with dma btw
[02:44] <Red-Sox> snorks: oh, i see
[02:44] <czr> benkong2, if your system freezes, don't set dma on the drive again
[02:44] <benkong2> sethk no this is for /dev/hda
[02:44] <SpAwN> Biscuitian_Warhe, 10-4
[02:44] <SpAwN> will do now
[02:44] <guru54_> i started tearing apart and rebuild computers in 4th grade with my uncle and he taught me cobol snausages
[02:44] <snorks> Red-Sox: However, I fear windows vista will be good :/
[02:44] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwNL Roger Roger.
[02:44] <sethk> benkong2, then why were people saying /dev/cdrom?
[02:44] <SpAwN> hehe
[02:44] <navarone> vbgunz...I have both installed...no need to drop one for the other...try phex and if it suits your needs you needn't tinker with gnutella-gtk any further
[02:44] <czr> kaybe, windows xp uses different drivers. I meant that if it worked before in Linux or not :-)
[02:45] <czr> kayde, sry
[02:45] <Agrajag> snorks: oh don't worry about that
[02:45] <snorks> czr: your thoughts of windows vista ?
[02:45] <Kayde> it works on knoppix3.8.2
[02:45] <guru54_> only think that surprises me about you Red-Sox is that you are choosing law over a computer field
[02:45] <Red-Sox> snorks: im not like the other kids, but I think it is a bad thing, I mean, I have lots of friends and everyone likes me, its just that im different, and I see that, and Im not sure if its good :/
[02:45] <czr> snorks, I don't think about windows. I have interesting stuff to think about.
[02:45] <Kayde> it works on knoppix3.8.2
[02:45] <snorks> czr: lol, like a bot reply
[02:45] <czr> kayde, aha. that is good
[02:45] <SpAwN> bah i STILL get the same error
[02:45] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Red-Sox: You remind me so much of me at that age..  The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist.
[02:46] <SpAwN> Please, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution
[02:46] <SpAwN> or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel
[02:46] <SpAwN> sources (default is /usr/src/linux).
[02:46] <vbgunz> navarone: I am really upset but a bit relieved... gtk-gnutella doesn't work on my other system either... Maybe it has something to do with my router? It is the only thing *but* PCs have in common *but* the router didn't seem to mess with gtk before...
[02:46] <sethk> Red-Sox, I've been that way for 40 years longer than you, so trust me.  :)
[02:46] <Kayde> i clicked: System, preferences, screen resoulution
[02:46] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Its just not looking in the right place.. Lol
[02:46] <Red-Sox> guru54_: well... Im a good argurer... or however you spell that, anyway, I am very interested in it
[02:46] <SpAwN> lol
[02:46] <snorks> Red-Sox: Same here.  And sometimes that makes me feel bad. But in reality, I'm He-Man compared to them
[02:46] <SpAwN> well where is it located?
[02:46] <gallonegro_> does openoffice word.. does it have options for tabs?
[02:47] <Kayde> i clicked: System, preferences, screen resoulution
[02:47] <czr> Kayde, did you change resolution?
[02:47] <snorks> czr: But really :/
[02:47] <Kayde> yup
[02:47] <guru54_> lol snorks
[02:47] <WildPenguin> SpAwN, Nvidia driver?
[02:47] <Red-Sox> snorks: well, good for you
[02:47] <czr> snorks, I don't think about it. it doesn't contain anything interesting
[02:47] <SpAwN> umm no alsa
[02:47] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Go to usr/src
[02:47] <Biscuitian_Warhe> And tell me what you see
[02:47] <SpAwN> i have NO sound!!!!!!
[02:47] <guru54_> i need to stop spending 10 bucks ever weekend on whiskey lol snorks
[02:47] <czr> kayde, can you change the resolution back, if that helps?
[02:47] <snorks> Red-Sox: In what way do you feel you're different?
[02:47] <czr> Kayde, or has the screen always been fuzzy in ubuntu?
[02:47] <Kayde> it dosnt help
[02:47] <SpAwN> 2 folders and 2 archive
[02:48] <benkong2> snorks; ok it works now is there a place where dma param can be passed on boot so that they are loaded with each boot?
[02:48] <czr> kayde, does the resolution at least change?
[02:48] <SpAwN> alsa-driver.tar.bz2     linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[02:48] <Kayde> i installed ubuntu 10 min ago...
[02:48] <czr> kayde, ah. ok
[02:48] <existance> can i have nvidia and ATI drivers at the same time?
[02:48] <SpAwN> and theres a alsa-driver folder too
[02:48] <Kayde> i installed ubuntu 10 min ago...---and ive tried all resolutions
[02:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Rename linux-headers one to linux
[02:48] <benkong2> in gentoo i an use /etc/conf.d/rc and put them there and they are loaded
[02:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> There try again
[02:48] <SpAwN> ahh
[02:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> existance: So far.. for me.. no. Lol
[02:48] <navarone> vbgunz...I am not an expert in routers...but perhaps your router is dyanmically blocking traffic it thinks it unrequested...<?>
[02:48] <snorks> benkong2: Hm, are you sure you're supposed to talk to me? I didn't help you yet :/
[02:48] <czr> kayde, do the resolutions actually change when you try them?
[02:48] <Kayde> ubuntu has not worked  in the 10 min
[02:48] <existance> Bisuitian_Warhe: h,,
[02:48] <Kayde> yup...
[02:48] <SpAwN> whats the command to rename a whole dir?
[02:48] <existance> Bisuitian_Warhe: hmm rather
[02:48] <Kayde> oi!
[02:48] <guru54_> Red-Sox, dont start partying, im only 18 and im already tired of it, waste of money and waste of good health
[02:48] <benkong2> snorks; sorry my bad /me /*sighs
[02:48] <Red-Sox> snorks: i dunno, its kinda hard to explain er... well... im, um... like... i feel like i think differently, my brain works differently, im not like everyone else
[02:48] <sethk> SpAwN, mv
[02:48] <rsbuntu> can i install additional program off line?
[02:48] <oxez> SpAwN: mv 'old dir' 'new dir'
[02:49] <SpAwN> ahh
[02:49] <czr> Kayde, oi?
[02:49] <Red-Sox> guru54_: okay
[02:49] <Kayde> resolutin=on ---wen screen smaller it workes but,
[02:49] <sethk> SpAwN, in unix a directory and a file are treated the same way w.r.t. names
[02:49] <snorks> Red-Sox: Haha you just own
[02:49] <snorks> Red-Sox: I'm so on your level
[02:49] <Kayde> resolutin=on ---wen screen smaller it workes but,io can see much oin my screen
[02:49] <Red-Sox> snorks: i dont understand
[02:49] <existance> where is grub installed to?
[02:49] <guru54_> lol Red-Sox quick question you look at something complicated and you can just tell how it works
[02:49] <guru54_> ?
[02:50] <navarone> RedSox> maybe you're like Einstein...but with tamer hair hopefully...;)
[02:50] <existance> ahh, i'm an idiot
[02:50] <SpAwN> hmmwhich should i rename... then newer one? linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 linux-headers-2.6.12-9
[02:50] <snorks> Red-Sox: Today I got a ride home from a friend. And his girlfriend was there. And she was yabbing away, and I was like "OH MY GOD she is stupid" inside me... it's as if I'm alot smarter than them. And I think in other ways aswell
[02:50] <czr> Kayde, sounds like a bug in XFree86 graphics driver
[02:50] <Red-Sox> guru54_: that sounds exactly right, like in math i can figure out short cuts to make it easier
[02:50] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Yeah
[02:50] <snorks> Red-Sox: I can't really talk about that here
[02:50] <Kayde> ...?
[02:50] <czr> Kayde, knoppix uses much newer X server (the program that sends the graphics update commands to display)
[02:50] <snorks> Red-Sox: Maybe if we both lived in Amsterdam and this wasn't #ubuntu
[02:50] <Kayde> wat do i do?
[02:50] <czr> Kayde, ubuntu for some reason uses very old version
[02:50] <Red-Sox> snorks: lol
[02:50] <czr> Kayde, let's ask :-)
[02:50] <Kayde> ddat sux
[02:50] <Red-Sox> navarone: i doubt it
[02:50] <guru54_> yea Red-Sox its logic, you have a logical brain
[02:50] <czr> does anyone know how to upgrade xorg on ubuntu?
[02:51] <czr> 5.10 seems to be carrying still xf86
[02:51] <Red-Sox> guru54_: that sounds good, I think I like that
[02:51] <czr> Kayde, there are reasons for that
[02:51] <Kayde> ohh
[02:51] <SpAwN> ahh sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Biscuitian_Warhe its compiling and it worke
[02:51] <czr> Kayde, but in your case they're the wrong reasons ;-)
[02:51] <SpAwN> thanks a whole bunch
[02:51] <navarone> snorks> I think there are all kinds or intelligence...analytical, emotional...even physical. I think intelligence is just the ability to adjust to new stimuli and process it
[02:51] <czr> Kayde, give me a sec, I'll google a bit
[02:51] <Kayde> so ubuntu it will never work!
[02:51] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Woot. I'll stay here till you have sound a blaring though :)
[02:51] <czr> Kayde, it will work if we replace the X server with a proper version
[02:52] <SpAwN> lol
[02:52] <Red-Sox> snorks: are you going to college?
[02:52] <czr> Kayde, it might not be simple though
[02:52] <SpAwN> thanks bro
[02:52] <Kayde> uh oh...
[02:52] <czr> Kayde, give me a moment, I'll check first
[02:52] <Kayde> im not very good at pc's
[02:52] <snorks> Red-Sox: I'll give you an example ok? A friend tried to fix his step-machine. You know, one of those workout machines.  He couldn't fix it
[02:52] <existance> uh... i just installed nvidia drivers, why can't I go to a higher resolution than 1024 x 768?
[02:52] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Anytime.
[02:52] <guru54_> Red-Sox, it will help in life, you can logically see why someone did that they did to make something happen or build something
[02:52] <snorks> Red-Sox: I tried, turned the nut the other way (since some screws are reversed) and it worked
[02:52] <Biscuitian_Warhe> existance: Is it in your xorg thingey?
[02:52] <Red-Sox> snorks: oh, i see
[02:52] <snorks> Red-Sox: I'd say university
[02:53] <Kayde> existance uh... i just installed nvidia drivers, why can't I go to a higher resolution than 1024 x 768? --i have same prob
[02:53] <existance> Biscuitian_Warhe, not sure, i just followed the instructions at the website :/
[02:53] <snorks> Red-Sox: And that really fascinated him, and he started calling me "the fixer"
[02:53] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: After this, im formating this drive and poof up to breezy.
[02:53] <guru54_> snorks, you mean a left thread ;)
[02:53] <Red-Sox> guru54_: is that why i am good at puzzles?
[02:53] <Red-Sox> snorks: lol
[02:53] <snorks> guru54_: Probably, don't know the english word for it
[02:53] <Toma-> Kayde: becuase you havent added the higher display res. to the display section of your xorg.conf
[02:53] <Red-Sox> snorks: y'know what?
[02:54] <snorks> Red-Sox: No, tell me
[02:54] <Kayde> Toma- Kayde: becuase you havent added the higher display res. to the display section of your xorg.conf  how?
[02:54] <czr> Biscuitian_Warhe, xorg thingy? in 5.10?
[02:54] <SpAwN> hehe
[02:54] <czr> hmm, why don't I have xorg?? I have xf86