[10:28] <blackjackel> Frogzoo: what does Soz mean? And I'm reading the man for find now... don't really know the usage yet..
[10:28] <budgieboy> ok
[10:28] <Frogzoo> blackjackel: if the drive's been mounted a while, locate may have found it also, much quicker 'locate filename'
[10:28] <budgieboy> gcc dependencies arent installed
[10:28] <budgieboy> and they won't install either
[10:28] <Frogzoo> blackjackel: soz = sorry = my apologies
[10:29] <blackjackel> Frogzoo: ah :)
[10:29] <SeenD> what do you die-hards think of feisty fawn? was it too soon released?
[10:29] <blackdiamond> anyone could help me?
[10:29] <Frogzoo> SeenD: I think it's awesome
[10:29] <bonii> I installed mplayer and whenever I try to playing an mp3 file with it it says cannot cannot connect to socket and no no such file or directory and hangs. Can someone help me out??
[10:29] <budgieboy> do I need gcc dependencies?
[10:29] <blackjackel> Frogzoo: I'm trying to look for a specific file extension, what is the wildcard in find or locate? would it be *.bwt for finding .bwt files?
[10:30] <Frogzoo> SeenD: I see ubuntu mostly aiming at the corporate desktop user, and for that it's a solid distro
[10:30] <Frogzoo> blackjackel: try 'locate filename | grep bwt'
[10:30] <budgieboy> got some new packages
[10:30] <budgieboy> try again
[10:30] <budgieboy> AFK
[10:30] <foofoofoo> is this the way to get mp3 support in ubuntu? http://www.harecoded.com/2006/02/17/how-to-play-mp3-with-ubuntu
[10:31] <Frogzoo> blackjackel: or find /path_to/ntfs_drive -name 'filename*bwt'
[10:31] <blackjackel> Frogzoo: thing is, I don't exactly remember the filename, I just know its one of the only files I have with that extension
[10:31] <budgieboy> still got an error :(
[10:31] <budgieboy> the same one
[10:31] <Frogzoo> blackjackel: or find /path_to/ntfs_drive -name '.bwt'
[10:32] <tilkz> so, is my problem fixable or is it going to take a full rehaul because that will kind of stink lol
[10:32] <budgieboy> It's ok
[10:32] <blackjackel> Frogzoo: can I search multiple ntfs drives all at once?
[10:32] <budgieboy> I found some things to install
[10:32] <budgieboy> gawt and stuff
[10:32] <oldude67> budgieboy: your cracking me up....:D
[10:32] <blackjackel> Frogzoo: attempting: /media$ find /media -name '.bwt'
[10:32] <budgieboy> :P
[10:32] <budgieboy> why?
[10:33] <blackdiamond> I downloaded the linux console of a bioinfo program but is .exe? I'm in panic..what I have to do to install it?
[10:33] <haluzak> !ntfs
[10:33] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:33] <blackdiamond> http://folding.stanford.edu/italian/download.html
[10:33] <SeenD> ajmorris: when i click view active connection iformation it says driver bcm43xx
[10:33] <wafflepox> blackdiamond: it may just be a binary file named .exe, try opening a terminal and running
[10:33] <SeenD> and not the one i installed with ndiswrapper
[10:34] <wafflepox> chmod +x lala.exe
[10:34] <wafflepox> ./lala.exe
[10:34] <budgieboy> gcc.real, Whats that?
[10:34] <jaylau81> i got a error ACPI: Unable to locate RSDP, anyone able to solve this problem ?
[10:34] <budgieboy> it's missing apparently
[10:34] <blackdiamond> ok wafflepox, i try
[10:34] <blackjackel> Frogzoo: also, Ive installed a few programs but I don't see them in my applications start menu... and would like to add them there,,,, is there a guide on how to do taht somewhere out there?
[10:35] <budgieboy> Unable to exec gcc.real: No such file or directory
[10:35] <budgieboy> help?
[10:35] <hylje> budgieboy: apt-get install build-essential
[10:35] <budgieboy> ok
[10:35] <ajmorris_> SeenD, kk, do this sudo ndiswrapper -a eth1 'name of driver you installed'
[10:35] <budgieboy> already newest verion is said
[10:36] <SeenD> ajmorris: eth1 is not a valid device id
[10:36] <cjae> apt-get install build-essential asks me for cdrom
[10:37] <wafflepox> try eth0
[10:37] <SeenD> eth0 is my wire... i need my wireless
[10:37] <cjae> why
[10:37] <Pinchiukas> how do I stop using the X server and start using xgl?
[10:37] <budgieboy> oh no!
[10:37] <wafflepox> oh
[10:37] <wafflepox> wlan0
[10:37] <cjae> this contains make and gcc and such right
[10:37] <wafflepox> ?
[10:37] <Frogzoo> blackjackel: sys -> prefs -> main menu
[10:37] <digin4> hi how do i create a pppoe connection in 7.04?
[10:38] <budgieboy> lol gawk mawk
[10:38] <cjae> hylje,
[10:38] <digin4> and is therea channel related to desktop-effects?
[10:38] <tilkz> good night guys
[10:38] <Frogzoo> digin4: sudo pppoeconf   - & then pon dsl-provider
[10:38] <tilkz> ill try question again in morning
[10:38] <tilkz> see yah
[10:38] <hylje> cjae: yes
[10:38] <Pinchiukas> how do I stop using the X server and start using XGL?
[10:38] <blackjackel> Frogzoo: thanks
[10:38] <hylje> cjae: your apt is trying to get the packages from CD, instead of the internet
[10:38] <ferronica> digin4: just type "sudo pppoeconf" in terminal :)
[10:38] <SeenD> ajmorris: maybe it aint the good driver??
[10:38] <blackdiamond> No, man..I try to install it from command line but it doesn't work
[10:38] <cjae> budgieboy,  I not a ****ing monkey I did not gawk and mawk
[10:38] <ajmorris_> SeenD, hmm, what goes in devid? i thought that was the device id lol. I am pretty sure that it should be eth0 that goes there. Maybe try the other way around
[10:38] <digin4> thanks :)
[10:39] <ferronica> digin4: and follow the instructions thats it
[10:39] <budgieboy> ?
[10:39] <budgieboy> what? gawk and mawk are something it sais, I dunno :(
[10:39] <cjae> It merely ****ing reminded me to do something
[10:40] <budgieboy> You make budgieboy cry :(..........
[10:40] <SeenD> ajmorris: it says ETH0 is not a valid device ID
[10:40] <SeenD> ajmorris: wtf??
[10:40] <Mishaal> is there any diffrence between Intel mobile Graphic and intel graphic ???
[10:40] <PriceChild> !ohmy | cjae
[10:40] <ubotu> cjae: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:40] <Frogzoo> SeenD: what are you trying to do?
[10:40] <PriceChild> SeenD, its eth0 not ETH0
[10:40] <ajmorris_> SeenD, yeah i know, it does on mine too, that musn't be what is supposed to go there, try it with the driver name you installed then eth1
[10:41] <blackdiamond> this is what I read in the help installation, but I really don't know what to do "To launch: To use this program, make sure that you can execute it (chmod +x FAH5-Linux.exe) and then run it ./FAH5-Linux.exe"
[10:41] <budgieboy> copy pasta right up!....
[10:41] <cjae> sorry bot
[10:41] <budgieboy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21536/
[10:41] <SeenD> frogzoo: getting my wireless linksys wpc54g to work
[10:41] <cjae> sorry channel
[10:41] <blackdiamond> what does that mean?
[10:41] <ajmorris_> PriceChild, the output capitalises it automatically, that is not what was actually entered. he enter 'eth0'
[10:41] <Frogzoo> SeenD: iwconfig & look for the name of your wireless device
[10:41] <PriceChild> ajmorris_, ah ok sorry
[10:41] <SeenD> iwconfig??
[10:41] <blackjackel> Frogzoo: I found Beagle, an indexing and search program: http://beagle-project.org/Main_Page
[10:41] <Pinchiukas> how do I start xgl instead of x?
[10:42] <ajmorris_> pricechild, np :)
[10:42] <digin4> I'm facing problems with desktop effects and i'm using nvidia-glx from system > administration > restricted drivers
[10:42] <Frogzoo> blackjackel: beagle once installed should show in your user menu
[10:42] <ajmorris_> SeenD, in the terminal, type sudo iwconfig
[10:42] <jaylau81> i got a error ACPI: Unable to locate RSDP, anyone able to solve this problem ?
[10:42] <Pinchiukas_> how do I start xgl instead of x?
[10:42] <blackjackel> Frogzoo: It does :)
[10:42] <SeenD> iwconfig shows eth1 with something on...
[10:42] <blackjackel> Frogzoo: I don't think it indexes NTFS partitions though...
[10:42] <Mishaal> is there any diffrence between Intel mobile Graphic and intel graphic ???   do they support linux well ??
[10:43] <cjae> hylje, is this to reduce traffic on their servers or is apt-get configured wrong
[10:43] <budgieboy> how do i install gcc real ???
[10:43] <SeenD> ajmorris & frogzoo: it shows
[10:43] <Pinchiukas> how do I start xgl instead of x?
[10:44] <SeenD> ajmorris & frogzoo: eth1 iee 802.11b/g etc
[10:44] <ajmorris_> SeenD, yeah, that means it has definitely picked up the card
[10:44] <Frogzoo> blackjackel: should do, once the ntfs is mounted
[10:44] <cjae> hylje, plus what if I don't have my disc??
[10:44] <RAOF> Pinchiukas: You join #ubuntu-effects
[10:44] <SeenD> ajmorris & frogzoo: hmmm and now....
[10:44] <Frogzoo> budgieboy: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:44] <blackjackel> Frogzoo: We'll see, its supposed to index everything eventually
[10:44] <blackjackel> Frogzoo: But I dont hear my drives running, so I am assuming it's not
[10:44] <budgieboy> ok
[10:45] <ajmorris_> SeenD, i don't know how to make it find the network, and i assume you are in range since you are 2 meters from the router
[10:45] <SeenD> ajmorris & frogzoo:  but its still using the alternate driver and not the one i installed
[10:45] <SeenD> ajmorris: the laptop im using this irc stuff on is sitting a computer further and has 98% connection
[10:45] <Frogzoo> SeenD: did you see a line like "Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.422 GHz  Access Point:XX:XX"
[10:46] <SeenD> frogzoo: it says acces point invalid
[10:46] <budgieboy> can't use the command, at the moment >.>
[10:46] <budgieboy> also, Is gcc dependencies needed?
[10:46] <luke_> do i need anything to network two linux machines? i've got two connected to eachother... but i cannot see one another in 'Network'... however i can see Windows machines?
[10:47] <Frogzoo> SeenD: well perhaps you don't have a driver for your wifi card installed yet
[10:47] <hylje> cjae: you might want to point your apt to the internet, but i'm not sure about how you'd go doing that. try /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:47] <Frogzoo> !samba | luke
[10:47] <ubotu> luke: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:47] <SeenD> frogzoo: yeah i kinda guess that too... but with ndiswrapper it says installed the inf correctly... the windows inf i got from linksys
[10:47] <budgieboy> I don't have  4.0 locales, do i need it?
[10:47] <SeenD> frogzoo: probably the wrong one ...??
[10:47] <budgieboy> gcc 4.0 locales
[10:48] <budgieboy> oh it's ok i have 4.1
[10:48] <cjae> hylje, I have all the repositories enabled
[10:48] <budgieboy> silly me
[10:48] <hylje> cjae: hm
[10:48] <Horscht> hi
[10:48] <Frogzoo> SeenD: ndiswrapper is a common stumbling block for wifi, I don't use it
[10:48] <Frogzoo> !ndiswrapper | SeenD
[10:48] <ubotu> SeenD: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:48] <budgieboy> still don't work AWWWW
[10:48] <cjae> that why I was asking if it was just these types of packages hylje
[10:48] <budgieboy> help mehh
[10:48] <Horscht> I just downloaded the latest automatical upgrades, and now I want to install vmware server
[10:49] <martii> hi
[10:49] <martii> I need help with xorg
[10:49] <luke_> I do not want to network with Windows... I want to network between two linux machines, and they cannot see eachother? do i still need samba to do this?
[10:49] <budgieboy> oh wait the code lol
[10:49] <martii> I disabled all power management stuff
[10:49] <Frogzoo> Horscht: the vmware server's not free, the vmware-player is
[10:49] <martii> but my screen gets blank after abbout 10 min
[10:49] <budgieboy> nooo
[10:49] <Horscht> but I get this error: but it's in the reps
[10:49] <martii> I want it to be on permanently
[10:49] <Horscht> Frogzoo, but it's in the reps
[10:49] <martii> xset s off doesnt help
[10:49] <Frogzoo> martii: sys -> prefs -> screensaver & check power settings also
[10:50] <voltagex> hi - I can't get my NVidia Geforce 8500GT going - startx errors out with "Failed to initialise dac HAL"
[10:50] <Horscht> I get this error when trying to install using add/remove: This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'vmware-server' the conflicting software must be removed first."
[10:50] <Frogzoo> Horscht: the kernel modules, not hte vmware server
[10:50] <cjae> luke_, you do not need samba for that samba implements windoze smb and you nfs
[10:50] <budgieboy> whats this error?
[10:50] <budgieboy> checking for C compiler default output file name...
[10:50] <budgieboy> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:50] <xlinux_> voltagex; how did you install the drivers?
[10:50] <mdkaneda55> hey, got a quick question.... got all these fsck0000.rec, fsck0001.rec files (and so on) on one of my drives, does that mean that a ton of my files are now missing these pieces? a lot of video clips i notice... =\ this could be bad if so...
[10:50] <voltagex> xlinux_: apt-get install nvidia-glx-new then nvidia-xconfig
[10:51] <mdkaneda55> fsck ran and errored out once after crash...
[10:51] <Horscht> so basicaly I can't install vmware server allthough it's in the add/remove section, Frogzoo ?
[10:51] <tobias> hello i want to install beryl + ati drivers my help is a howto and he said do : sudo rm /usr/src/fglrx-kernel*.deb  what means * the command doesent start
[10:51] <tobias> thx for help
[10:51] <xlinux_> voltagex; everytime you startup you get 'failed to initialize HAL'
[10:51] <Frogzoo> mdkaneda55: yep, those are lost file fragments - moral is don't turn off your comp while the disks are spinning
[10:52] <CaptSaltyJack> whoa. hmm
[10:52] <SeenD> frogzoo and ajmorris: thx for the help... i ll return then to the forums...
[10:52] <Frogzoo> mdkaneda55: better yet, always shut down cleanly
[10:52] <voltagex> xlinux_: failed to initialize dac HAL - when startx runs
[10:52] <Frogzoo> SeenD: that's best, gl
[10:52] <mdkaneda55> frogzoo: um, not really the case, ubuntu crashed on me several times, nothing i could do about it, but thanx...
[10:52] <ajmorris_> SeenD, i wish you well in finding your answer :)
[10:53] <tobias> can nobody help me?
[10:53] <voltagex> mdkaneda55: normally if something goes wrong with a Linux system you don't have to power off/restart
[10:53] <oldude67> mdkaneda55: check disk for bed sectors...maybe bad
[10:53] <Frogzoo> mdkaneda55: that's very unlinux type behaviour - I wonder what's going on
[10:53] <voltagex> xlinux_: so...
[10:53] <Toma-> voltagex: ha...
[10:53] <Horscht> I had ubuntu freeze on me several times, too
[10:53] <xlinux_> have you by chance tried to install at the command prompt with Nvidia drivers from the website?
[10:53] <Horscht> couldn't even kill X
[10:54] <voltagex> Toma-: ctrl-alt-backspace or ctrl-alt-f2 will drop you to a console to fix things
[10:54] <mdkaneda55> voltagex: was having video driver problems or something, screen would totally freeze when a movie was played.. was really irritating me, uninstalled nvidia driver and reinstalled, and things seem ok... but it was really buggin me
[10:54] <voltagex> xlinux_: same error, exactly.
[10:54] <xlinux_> youre saying hard power downs destroy the hard drive?
[10:54] <Toma-> voltagex: nvidia and other kernel drivers commonly cause hardlockups regularly.
[10:54] <xlinux_> voltagex; gimme a sec
[10:54] <voltagex> xlinux_: I mean with the .run from the nvidia site
[10:54] <Frogzoo> xlinux_: not the drive, but the data
[10:55] <martii> Frogzoo: doesn't help
[10:55] <xlinux_> voltagex; ive had that too on my previous install, but it went away with a reboot
[10:55] <martii> Frogzoo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/46575
[10:55] <martii> Frogzoo: that the bug I experience
[10:56] <voltagex> xlinux_: :| damn damn damn...
[10:56] <xlinux_> voltagex; gimme a sec...
[10:56] <Gorlist> Morning, had to change graphics as my ATI 9800 blew up, stuck a older ATI in, though who can I refresh Xorg.conf to detect it?
[10:56] <martii> Frogzoo: and I even started machine with apci=off
[10:56] <martii> Frogzoo: no change
[10:56] <Gorlist> who - how
[10:56] <luke_> Ok.... Sorry... But... Is there any reason why i shouldn't be able to see the other linux box i'm connected to? These two linux boxes just dont see eachother... (actually... they CAN ping eachother... so there is a connection... i just cannot see the computer in 'Network')
[10:56] <voltagex> Gorlist: what kind of ATI card... it may work with the same driver
[10:56] <luke_> and it wont share the internet
[10:56] <Frogzoo> !ati | Gorlist
[10:56] <ubotu> Gorlist: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:57] <Gorlist> thanks
[10:57] <Gorlist> its x1300
[10:57] <budgieboy> anyone help ?
[10:57] <SeenD> how can i uninstall a driver via ndiswrapper??
[10:57] <budgieboy> I get error
[10:57] <budgieboy> error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:57] <Gorlist> just im getting small artifacts
[10:57] <xlinux_> voltagex; found your forum post, haha
[10:57] <Frogzoo> !samba | luke_ you need to setup samba on both boxes, read the docs
[10:57] <ubotu> luke_ you need to setup samba on both boxes, read the docs: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:57] <sluimers> Can someone help me? I can't burn files on my DVD/CD-writer to my CD-R
[10:58] <sluimers> It won't recogniz my CD-R
[10:58] <Frogzoo> sluimers: first try with k3b
[10:58] <sluimers> I use K3b
[10:58] <sluimers> ah
[10:58] <sluimers> Well, that's where I tried
[10:59] <Frogzoo> sluimers: does the cd drive work ?
[10:59] <voltagex> xlinux_: can you bump it for me? ;)
[10:59] <Frogzoo> sluimers: oh, how do you plan to burn files to a CD-R ??
[11:00] <xlinux_> voltagex; I will
[11:00] <voltagex> xlinux_: just apt-get --purge removed the package and trying the .run again
[11:00] <Mishaal> please help !! i mounted the drives but i am not able to view the contents it says
[11:00] <sluimers> errr... CD-R's can be burned only once right?
[11:00] <sluimers> it's empty
[11:00] <yrm0m> hi. im having an odd problem.  i can't give myself write access to my hard drives
[11:00] <Frogzoo> sluimers: oh right, my bad
[11:00] <xlinux_> voltagex; do you have any smb network shares running?
[11:00] <yrm0m> i dont' see anything in this FAQ about it
[11:01] <Mishaal> please help !! i mounted the drives but i am not able to view the contents it says  (You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "ntfsdrive". ) how do i solve this problem ??
[11:01] <voltagex> xlinux_: yes!
[11:01] <voltagex> xlinux_: oh, wait, not on this box
[11:01] <Frogzoo> sluimers: can you read from both the DVD & CD ?
[11:01] <yrm0m> when i look at the properties of a folder or drive, all of the access options are grayed out, and it says i can't change them because im not 'owner'
[11:01] <yrm0m> but i am the only user
[11:01] <xlinux_> voltagex; just to be sure, open the /etc/fstab and see what drives are mounted at boot
[11:01] <yrm0m> so im stuck saving all my files to the desktop lol
[11:02] <sluimers> anyway, k3b says that a buffer underrun occurs. No matter at what speed I try.
[11:02] <voltagex> xlinux_: what does smb have to do with X?
[11:02] <sluimers> I can read it yes
[11:02] <yrm0m> im using ubuntustudio btw
[11:02] <xlinux_> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/61350-failed-initialize-hal.html
[11:02] <voltagex> xlinux_: don't have X, can't view, is that my thread?
[11:02] <Frogzoo> sluimers: how much data are you trying to copy from the dvd to the cd ??
[11:02] <voltagex> I'm about to switch machine, brb xlinux_
[11:03] <sluimers> No, it's from the computer to CD
[11:03] <sluimers> and it's 125 MB
[11:03] <xlinux_> voltagex; okay
[11:03] <Frogzoo> sluimers: does it start burning & fail, or immediately fail?
[11:03] <gonnaeatthat>  /join #FOSSREVOLUTION
[11:03] <gonnaeatthat> grr
[11:03] <sluimers> immediately fail
[11:03] <Frogzoo> sluimers: ls -lL /dev/cdrom & check you're a member of the group
[11:04] <xlinux_> not to be a dumba**, but hows he using an IRC client with no X? I guess im still a noob..
[11:04] <voltagex> xlinux_: back, thanks to the goodness of gnu screen
[11:04] <voltagex> xlinux_: irssi
[11:04] <xlinux_> nice
[11:04] <sluimers> brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2007-05-19 10:38 /dev/cdrom
[11:04] <xlinux_> need that link again?
[11:04] <voltagex> xlinux_: can I /msg you with the list of mounted drives?
[11:04] <Frogzoo> sluimers: does 'groups' show cdrom ?
[11:04] <xlinux_> yeah
[11:05] <sluimers> groups?
[11:05] <Frogzoo> sluimers: the command
[11:05] <sluimers> yes
[11:06] <yrm0m> ok i can't find an answer to my problem in the FAQ or on linuxforums.org
[11:06] <voltagex> xlinux_: there are a few things to try there.
[11:06] <Frogzoo> sluimers: check in k3b -> settings -> devices
[11:06] <SeenD> anybody happen to know a good 54mbps wireless pcmcia card which will work on ubuntu 7.04? and cheap
[11:06] <xlinux_> at the link I posted?
[11:06] <yrm0m> when i look at the properties of a folder or drive, all of the access options are grayed out, and it says i can't change them because im not 'owner'
[11:06] <Frogzoo> !hardware | SeenD
[11:06] <ubotu> SeenD: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:06] <yrm0m> i can't give myself write access
[11:07] <yrm0m> i tried changing the permissions with chmod in console as well
[11:07] <yrm0m> it didn't seem to have any effect
[11:07] <hmpedersen> Does anyone have experience with vmware server on 7.04?
[11:07] <xlinux_> yrm0m, is this a drive mounted by ntfs3g?
[11:08] <sluimers> I'm there
[11:08] <yrm0m> i don't know  :X   sorry idk what ntfs3g is
[11:08] <voltagex> xlinux_: can I /msg you?
[11:08] <xlinux_> voltagex; sure
[11:08] <sluimers> It shows one writer drive
[11:08] <Frogzoo> sluimers: so only the dvd shows...
[11:09] <xlinux_> yrm0m; does it happen when youre trying to write to your windows partition, or does it happen everywhere?
[11:09] <voltagex> xlinux_: hmm it says you don't exist.
[11:09] <yrm0m> i have no windows partition
[11:09] <yrm0m> its everywhere except the desktop
[11:09] <yrm0m> both hard drives
[11:09] <xlinux_> voltagex; huh? wtf??
[11:09] <sluimers> Frogzoo: It's a Philips DVD+-RW SDVD
[11:09] <Frogzoo> sluimers: I'm guessing from there "add device"
[11:09] <voltagex> xlinux_: anyways, the similarity with that is I resized the ntfs partition to make way for ubuntu
[11:09] <sluimers> Frogzoo: It can read and write everything
[11:10] <Frogzoo> sluimers: the CD-R doesn't show in the devices settings, so you'll need to add it
[11:10] <yrm0m> ubuntu is the only OS on here so there are no partitions
[11:10] <xlinux_> yrm0m.. are you logged in as the original user of the system?
[11:10] <sluimers> Frogzoo: okay, but how?
[11:10] <yrm0m> im the only user
[11:11] <xlinux_> voltagex; did you try the stuff listed in that link I posted?
[11:11] <battlesquid> after updating today (edgy), the firewall is left down due to an error in the update!
[11:11] <Frogzoo> sluimers: click "add device"
[11:11] <Frogzoo> bbl
[11:11] <sluimers> Frogzoo: adding dev/cdrom/ doesn't returns an error
[11:11] <xlinux_> have you tried opening the file manager as root via the terminal?
[11:12] <sluimers> Frogzoo: scrap the doesn't in that sentence
[11:12] <yrm0m> oh crap
[11:12] <yrm0m> ive got it
[11:12] <yrm0m> thanks xlinux_ you actually helped me figure it out
[11:12] <xlinux_> glad to help!
[11:13] <xlinux_> voltagex; you still there?
[11:13] <voltagex> xlinux_: I get hal errors on shutdown!
[11:13] <yrm0m> is there no way at all to change access to NTFS stuff?
[11:13] <alienseer23> how do I work with bin/cue dvd images in ubuntu??
[11:13] <yrm0m> or do i have to reformat it
[11:13] <battlesquid> after updating today (edgy), the firewall is left down due to an error in the update! when manually $ sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter start, i get the following: eth1: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[11:13] <xlinux_> yrm0m, install ntfs3g and the gui for it
[11:13] <battlesquid> this is bad, the firewall is down due to an update bug!
[11:13] <yrm0m> ok ill check that out. thanks again
[11:14] <xlinux_> voltagex; weird.. once again man.. if your dbus service isnt running, youll get HAL error
[11:14] <sluimers> Since Frogzoo's gone is there anyone else who wants to help me? I can't seem to burn my CD-R
[11:14] <LMJ> battlesquid :  type  ifconfig -a  and see if you have your ethernet cards
[11:14] <sluimers> K3b can't find it
[11:14] <xlinux_> does this happen running nv drivers?
[11:14] <xlinux_> yrm0m, no prob
[11:14] <battlesquid> LMJ, obviously as i am chatting here on the same computer with you
[11:14] <xlinux_> yrm0m, use the repos for NTFS3g and the gui, very easy
[11:14] <voltagex> xlinux_: yeah, what process should be running? It isn't disable
[11:14] <arthanix> hi
[11:14] <budgieboy> no one helped me :(
[11:15] <alienseer23> I have an 8 gig bin/cue dvd image, I need to get the dvd data out of the image and into a video ts folder, and onto a 4 gig dvd. Do I just mount the cue (or bin) file?
[11:15] <LMJ> eth1 is available battlesquid ?
[11:15] <battlesquid> LMJ, there's just eth0 though
[11:15] <xlinux_> yeah, if its happening with NV drivers, it isnt the video drivers, its something else
[11:15] <xlinux_> go to startup services in system-admin
[11:15] <battlesquid> LMJ, i can't remember for sure, but i think i have a faulty eth0, so there should just be eth1
[11:16] <steveb> i hope someone can give me a hand with this - i cant get the live cd to start X. there are a load of squashfs errors and X says it cant find the fixed fonts. any idea?
[11:16] <LMJ> that's your problem battlesquid, the driver is not loaded or so to make your eth1 available battlesquid
[11:16] <sluimers> anyone?
[11:16] <gh0zt> hey
[11:16] <goban> how do i find the PYTHONPATH?
[11:16] <battlesquid> LMJ, it seems like something decided eth1 should be named eth0 without my consent
[11:16] <voltagex> xlinux_: ......:( nv drivers work fine - the open source ones right?
[11:16] <xlinux_> yeah.. dang
[11:16] <voltagex> xlinux_: so it *is* the Nvidia binary ones with the problem
[11:16] <morpheus__>  irc.rizon.com
[11:16] <LMJ> you can specify who is who with the file /etc/iftab battlesquid , for example :    "eth0 mac 00:4f:08:0F:64:59"  man iftab for more info
[11:17] <xlinux_> well, your system has a problem with them
[11:17] <xlinux_> give me a few more.. Ive gotta figure out what caused my HAL to fail!!!
[11:17] <battlesquid> LMJ, both eth0 and eth1 are set, but i don't know which is which
[11:18] <voltagex> xlinux_: gonna email nvidia with a bug report - my card is fine... it's all of a week old
[11:18] <LMJ> mii-tool can help you to know what drive use each ethX battlesquid, or check dmesg"
[11:18] <xlinux_> I know that.. its gotta be something with the OS/Software
[11:18] <battlesquid> LMJ, how can i configure firestarter so i can defined eth0 in stead?
[11:19] <xlinux_> doubt its your card or the driver
[11:19] <gh0zt> secret
[11:19] <bintut_> how will i set txpower to 13dBm using madwifi driver on my /etc/network/interfaces ?
[11:19] <xlinux_> in your forum post the error message says the GPU name isnt found
[11:19] <voltagex> xlinux_: what is dac, exactly/
[11:19] <November> hey.
[11:19] <xlinux_> are you sure you ran the nvidia config at the end of the install?
[11:19] <voltagex> xlinux_: I'm thinking X may not be able to detect the amount of memory in my card
[11:19] <voltagex> xlinux_: yes!
[11:19] <LMJ> if there is a mess up with your 2 ethernet card battlesquid, fix it on the system side, after your firewall will work like before
[11:20] <xlinux_> voltagex; hmmm
[11:20] <arthanix> I need a recomendation... I'm using gnome window manager, but I feel it's too limited. Are there any reasons not to use XFCE or KDE? wich is better?
[11:20] <xlinux_> are you on X now? (via Nv drivers)
[11:20] <battlesquid> LMJ, i see. i tried dmesg and mii-tool. i don't know what to do with them though, what am i looking for, or is there something they should do?
[11:20] <voltagex> xlinux_: no, but I'm on a machine with working display, via ssh
[11:21] <Gorlist> Morning
[11:21] <Gorlist> ive just managed to botch my xorg.conf and im now stuck in command prompt on boot up
[11:21] <emss> arthanix: try openbox, ion3 and ratpoison
[11:21] <xlinux_> voltagex; im curious to know what your xorg.conf says.. thats where your problem is
[11:21] <xlinux_> its gotta be
[11:22] <voltagex> xlinux_: I don't have any settings for memory in there, isn't dac something to do with ram?
[11:22] <battlesquid> *help me LMJ you're my only hope*
[11:22] <voltagex> xlinux_: the "failed to initialise dac HAL" I think dac is the key
[11:22] <voltagex> xlinux_: hang on, I will attempt to pastebin the config
[11:22] <arthanix> emss, Thanx
[11:22] <xlinux_> good point...
[11:22] <LMJ> I think the best fix for your problem is to define what network card is eth0 and what is eth1. This can be done via /etc/iftab. First, you have to figure out what is the mac address if each network card by the best way you can and then fill /etc/iftab
[11:23] <SeenD> the ubuntustudio site is down -- anybody know how to install or apt-get the studio stuff?
[11:23] <voltagex> xlinux_: aha, dac is to do with tv-out
[11:23] <SeenD> !help
[11:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:23] <catrik> Hi, I want to use 1280x1024, but it's not in the Screen Resolution selector. I have "1280x1024" in xorg.conf. How to fix?
[11:23] <SeenD> !UbuntuStudio
[11:23] <voltagex> xlinux_: or not, never mind me
[11:23] <ubotu> ubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.
[11:24] <battlesquid> LMJ, as there are only two cards and two entries in /etc/iftab i assume i should swap them (as the current assignment is not the right one)
[11:24] <LMJ> did you change it ?
[11:24] <voltagex> xlinux_: I have no idea how to tell X that the card has 512mb
[11:24] <battlesquid> LMJ, i haven't done anything yet
[11:24] <LMJ> i bet the update won't do that
[11:24] <xlinux_> voltagex; you shouldnt have too.. youre card has had no problems for others
[11:24] <LMJ> in that case, it could be a problem somewhere else
[11:25] <battlesquid> LMJ, but how else could i end up with different assignments?
[11:25] <LMJ> battlesquid : ok, give a shout
[11:25] <battlesquid> LMJ, i'll try reassigning now
[11:25] <Gorlist> when I type in this command to restore my config
[11:25] <Gorlist> comes up with directory not found?
[11:25] <voltagex> xlinux_: XFX Geforce 8500GT, seems to think it has 512mb/ram when I only ordered a 256 :P
[11:25] <Gorlist> sudo cp /etc/X11/backup/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:26] <Gorlist> im in the command prompt as desktop won't load
[11:26] <voltagex> xlinux_: also, that means the clock/core/memory speeds of the card are different from normal
[11:26] <m0u5e> does anyone know if its possible to configure video out on only one desktop, and have like the other (3) for person use?
[11:26] <m0u5e> so that you can work on other stuff while using one side of the cube for video on like a TV?
[11:26] <xlinux_> voltagex; try     sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf       and see what it says under "section screen"
[11:27] <battlesquid> LMJ, i get the same thing when starting firestarter now, but restarting networking went by fine
[11:27] <Gorlist> anyone? really need some help :(
[11:27] <xlinux_> voltagex: then well know if the nvidia config has recognized your card..
[11:27] <LMJ> you have to restart the OS to be sure of your config anyway
[11:27] <voltagex> xlinux_: http://www.pastebin.ca/496550
[11:27] <Gorlist> this command comes up with directory not found when trying to restore my xorg.conf
[11:27] <Gorlist> sudo cp /etc/X11/backup/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:27] <m0u5e> gorlist: why wont it load? did it give you a error?
[11:27] <m0u5e> gorlist: ah.
[11:27] <neil_fiesty> !gutsy
[11:27] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1
[11:27] <niekie_> Hrmm.. apparently I'm already online..
[11:28] <m0u5e> gorlist: try using a live cd?
[11:28] <Gorlist> no?
[11:28] <Frogzoo> niekie_: lies!
[11:28] <macabro22> Hello
[11:28] <Gorlist> i only have a 32 bit live cd, my ubuntu install is 64bit (does that matter?)
[11:28] <niekie> Hrmm.. :o
[11:28] <Finux> hi everyone
[11:28] <niekie> Found the PC that had IRC on :D
[11:28] <Finux> have a quick newbie question
[11:28] <niekie> Haha.
[11:29] <fahad>
[11:29] <Finux> wondered if any one could help
[11:29] <Frogzoo> Gorlist: you won't get very far like that
[11:29] <voltagex> Finux: just ask it
[11:29] <m0u5e> is there a 64 bit live cd version availabe (should be...)
[11:29] <Catoptromancy> wow didnt know xchat did arabic
[11:29] <Finux> cool, how do you turn beagled off perminatly
[11:29] <Gorlist> I can't burn it anyhow...
[11:29] <xlinux_> voltagex: the DRIVER isnt recongnizing youre card
[11:29] <voltagex> xlinux_: no, I think I messed that config up
[11:29] <Gorlist> well that command should have just worked? how could I browse the filesystem from my user?
[11:30] <voltagex> xlinux_: forcing the prorgam to make a new one now
[11:30] <xlinux_> on yours it says "nvidia" for every slot that mentions device
[11:30] <tarantyl>
[11:30] <tarantyl>
[11:30] <tarantyl>
[11:30] <xlinux_> mine actually lists the MAKE and MODEL of my card...
[11:30] <xlinux_> we'll see on your new one...
[11:31] <tarantyl>
[11:31] <DfraGG3r> are there any alternative software to amanda? for disaster recovery?
[11:31] <mudit> hi does anyone know how to find full forms of linux commands like uname etc....
[11:31] <voltagex> xlinux_: nope, same thing, the driver doesn't recognise the damn card! Help!
[11:31] <Frogzoo> mudit: ls /usr/bin ?
[11:31] <voltagex> xlinux_: should I try a beta driver?
[11:31] <hydan> mudit, have you tried searching for them?
[11:31] <Duragizer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/19749/comments/74 , anyone know a solution ?
[11:31] <xlinux_> voltagex... one more sec... thats what im thinking, im on the nvidia website
[11:32] <xlinux_> 8500 whats your card again?
[11:32] <voltagex> xlinux_: 8500GT
[11:32] <yrm0m> hi um, i installed ntfs-g3, opened the config thing and it has 2 checkboxes. one to allow access to internal drives and one for external
[11:32] <yrm0m> for some reason, the check box for internal drives is grayed out
[11:32] <yrm0m> :(
[11:32] <mudit> hydan yes i googled a lot, but even in descriptions nothing is available
[11:32] <hydan> how can you get hardware information, like what type of processor is on the machine.
[11:32] <yrm0m> theres nothing about this on the web pages im looking at
[11:32] <hydan> hmmm.
[11:32] <voltagex> xlinux_: absolutely wonderful card if you're a windows user...
[11:32] <xlinux_> yrm0m... youre close....
[11:32] <xlinux_> voltagex.. its going to be a wonderful linux card when we fix it..
[11:33] <CheshireViking> hydan, you can try using the lshw command in terminal
[11:33] <mudit> hydan actually i m asking abt the expanded meaning of commands not thr functions
[11:33] <SlimeyPete> hydan: lspci will tell you most of what you want to know. "cat /proc/cpuinfo" will tell you the processor.
[11:33] <xlinux_> yrm0m.. give me 2 secs.. im trying to help voltagex get his x up
[11:33] <yrm0m> do you know why that option is grayed out xlinux_ ?
[11:33] <yrm0m> oh ok
[11:33] <yrm0m> no problem
[11:33] <yrm0m> say my nick here when you are ready so im notified
[11:34] <Pinchiukas> how do I twist that cube thing by default on my laptop?
[11:34] <Gorlist> so no help
[11:35] <Frogzoo> hydan: lspci & lshw
[11:35] <Finux> does anyone know a way of turning beagled off on a perminate other than unistalling it?
[11:35] <hydan> CheshireViking, SlimeyPete, thanks for the help. i need to get back in the rhythm of RTFM. i haven't used linux in years.
[11:35] <hydan> thanks for your help :)
[11:35] <CheshireViking> hydan, np
[11:35] <hydan> Frogzoo, thank you too
[11:35] <Pinchiukas> eh?
[11:36] <xlinux_> voltagex: defintely go for the driver on this page and see if your HAL works..
[11:36] <xlinux_> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.03.html
[11:36] <mudit> frogzoo: /usr/bin has the binaries but not the unabbreviated forms of commands
[11:36] <cjae> ok if I have port 34500 is this port udp or tcp or both?? do all ports have both tcp and udp??
[11:37] <Frogzoo> mudit: I have no idea what you're talking about
[11:37] <xlinux_> voltagex: you there?
[11:37] <Finux> thanks for the help guys, i find coming on here really useful - honest
[11:37] <kayef> how do i make a window stick to a desktop and not be shadowed by the "show desktop" button?
[11:38] <konstad> setting up a webmail host using courier-imap server. don't know how to set up the server. not sure if it is running. it is in /etc/init.d no there is no process of this name. any help?
[11:38] <xlinux_> yrm0m
[11:38] <bluej774> Can anyone tell me if there's a way to play commercial DVDs using totem-gstreamer?
[11:38] <xlinux_> whats the dealio again?
[11:38] <mudit> frogzoo: k i mean like pwd stands for print working directory, cd for change directoty.....so similarly how do find meanings of others
[11:38] <voltagex> xlinux_: am now
[11:38] <yrm0m> hi
[11:38] <xlinux_> haha, oh man.. lol
[11:39] <Frogzoo> mudit: man pwd
[11:39] <voltagex> xlinux_: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGH
[11:39] <yrm0m> oh i installed ntfs g3k or whatever it is. opened up the config but the option to enable writing for internal devices is grayed out
[11:39] <xlinux_> ok, voltagex, did the BETA driver work?
[11:39] <voltagex> xlinux_: BETA driver adds support for my card!!!
[11:39] <xlinux_> thats good voltagex... at least it works.. lol you could have an ATI card
[11:39] <voltagex> xlinux_: halfway between angry and happy
[11:40] <xlinux_> yrm0m... did you install the libs or just the gui?
[11:40] <voltagex> xlinux_: that's one of the reasons I go NVidia, but I wish they'd open source it, they'd blow ATI away
[11:40] <xlinux_> voltagex... DEFINITELY let nvidia know about this
[11:40] <fumanju> howdy
[11:40] <konstad> courier-imap server. anyone using it?
[11:40] <voltagex> xlinux_: they already know! read http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.03.html
[11:41] <fumanju> just installed ubuntu desktop, a breeze...
[11:41] <yrm0m> oh it looks like i was missing one lib
[11:41] <konstad> fumanju, online or off a cd?
[11:41] <fumanju> off a cd
[11:41] <fumanju> installed it on a clean hdd
[11:41] <yrm0m> libntfs-3g0-dev
[11:41] <konstad> fumanju, quite basic then.
[11:42] <xlinux_> yrm0m.. you might need to restartX after installing the lib so the drive will mount
[11:42] <yrm0m> do i need that one?
[11:42] <yrm0m> ok
[11:42] <yrm0m> ill try that real quick
[11:42] <xlinux_> voltagex: haha, yeah thats a link I posted not realizing you left
[11:42] <konstad> fumanju, where do get the cd fr?
[11:43] <xlinux_> voltagex: do you notice any adverse effects using the BETA driver?
[11:43] <fumanju> wanted to ask, i know there's ubuntu server edition w/ LAMP, but if i want to install web/ftp server, php and mysql...do i just install them separately?
[11:43] <fumanju> downloaded the ISO
[11:43] <fumanju> then burned it onto a cd-r
[11:44] <fumanju> oh, i want to install ^ on ubuntu desktop edition
[11:44] <voltagex> xlinux_: not installed yet, my connection is only ADSL
[11:44] <konstad> fumanju, you definitely can instal them separately.
[11:44] <voltagex> xlinux_: please add me to msn or aim or something?
[11:45] <xlinux_> is this your aim name?
[11:45] <mudit> frogzoo: yeah thats fine but in man uname, the description says print system information.......so y did the writer f this utility keep its name as uname....thr has to be some reason....knowing that reason would make it a lot easier for me to remember the command and its function......sorry if i m bugging u out :)
[11:45] <Ace2016> Hi all
[11:45] <voltagex> xlinux_: sorry, trancepasta on aim
[11:45] <micktm> hi all!!
[11:45] <micktm> How can I change the default network interface chosen during the installation of ubuntu?
[11:46] <fumanju> also, how safe is ubuntu if i want to DMZ it from my router?
[11:46] <sacater> can anyone help me with this http://rafb.net/p/abHBD737.html
[11:46] <yrm0m> xlinux_ : thank you, that did finally work
[11:46] <xlinux_> yrm0m, awesome
[11:46] <variant> fumanju: well, presumably being in the dmz it will be firewalled.. so just as safe as any other os behind your dmz
[11:46] <Ace2016> Can someone help me with this compile error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21539/  the file i'm compiling is http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/splashutils/current/splashutils-1.4.2.tar.bz2
[11:47] <fumanju> isn't being in DMZ means it's not protected by router?...or do you mean ubuntu firewall?
[11:48] <variant> fumanju: thats not what DMZ means, probably in your crappy router thats what it means but in networking that is _not_ what it means :)
[11:48] <fumanju> ah, sorry...
[11:49] <fumanju> but yea, i was talking about the my router's dmz
[11:49] <variant> fumanju: dmz is a zone between trusted (no external access) and untrusted (the internet)
[11:49] <micktm> How can I change the default network interface chosen during the installation of ubuntu?
[11:49] <fumanju> ok
[11:49] <variant> fumanju: well, if you enable a software firewall on ubuntu it's fairly safe.. safer than *alternative* operating systems :)
[11:51] <fumanju> cool, good to know...i'll get started on reading the docs then....thanks...
[11:51] <variant> fumanju: i would forward whatever ports you need to access to the ubuntu computer and ignore the routers so called dmz, such a feature makes the security features offered by the router worthless (to the rest of the network also)
[11:51] <fumanju> ok
[11:51] <fumanju> i'll forward the basic ports for web/ftp server then...
[11:51] <variant> exactly
[11:52] <fumanju> um, this may sound silly...but what's the best way to install web/ftp server in ubuntu desktop
[11:52] <micktm> How can I change the default network interface chosen during the installation of ubuntu?
[11:52] <variant> fumanju: apt-get install apache gproftpd (gproftpd is a ftp server gui setup program)
[11:53] <TabooTreez> how does one force a certain resolution? I cant go any high then 1024x768 and I have my graphics driver installed.
[11:53] <fumanju> ok, and i type this in the terminal right?
[11:53] <ycmarvin> I have downloaded dvd of new ubuntu, how can I use it to replace my old ubuntu version
[11:53] <variant> TabooTreez: does your screen support higher resolutions?
[11:53] <variant> ycmarvin: put it in the drive
[11:53] <variant> ycmarvin: while using ubuntu
[11:53] <yrm0m> #lad
[11:53] <yrm0m> oops
[11:54] <TabooTreez> variant, on other distros and windows I can go very high
[11:54] <ycmarvin> variant: I have it in the drive
[11:54] <kayef> how do i make a window stick to a desktop and not be shadowed by the "show desktop" button?
[11:54] <variant> ycmarvin: open the update manager
[11:55] <ycmarvin> variant: everything listed there are from my dvd?
[11:55] <variant> ycmarvin: not sure, don't have an ubuntu pc handy to check it out
[11:55] <variant> !update | ycmarvin
[11:55] <ubotu> ycmarvin: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:56] <Rich_li_ny> Xubuntu 6.10  problem:  When I try to use letter wizzard in OpenOffice I get the following:  "OpenOffice.org requires Jaca runtime enviroment (JRE) to perform this task.  Please install JRE and restart OpenOffice.org"    but I allready have java runtime enviroment and java 6 plugin installed.  What should I do next?
[11:56] <variant> !java | Rich_li_ny
[11:56] <ubotu> Rich_li_ny: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[11:56] <fierycleric> is there a forwardport of firefox 1.5 for feisty?
[11:56] <ycmarvin> variant: ok I tried to click update and my dvd is reading..thanks
[11:57] <macabro22> hello
[11:57] <das77> hello!
[11:58] <macabro22> I am trying to solve my wifi problem
[11:58] <macabro22> I read somewhere that ubuntu mint does recognize my card
[11:59] <macabro22> but I dont want install it all over again
[11:59] <fierycleric> !mint
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <fierycleric> !info mint
[11:59] <ubotu> Package mint does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:00] <babo> I need to run a command on system startup everytime.
[12:00] <zql> hello
[12:01] <fierycleric> babo what command?
[12:01] <kayef> can someone pls send me *.png clock skins?
[12:02] <babo> fierycleric, cd /home/babo/django && python manage.py runserver 8080
[12:02] <babo> where has chkconfig gone ?
[12:02] <fumanju> just wondering...xp/vista has the remote desktop thing...does ubuntu have something like that?
[12:02] <babo> I think runlevel 3 though tdo ...
[12:02] <fierycleric> babo: the default runlevel is 2
[12:03] <babo> fierycleric: right, what's the command though ?
[12:03] <dinio> hi
[12:03] <macabro22> Is there a way for me to just run mintwifi. Should that solve my wifi problem?
[12:03] <macabro22> I mean
[12:04] <dinio> alguien que hable castellano?
[12:04] <jatt> !es
[12:04] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:04] <macabro22> Can I just get the driver from the mint repos?
[12:04] <perlmonkey> hi
[12:05] <Rich_li_ny> Resinstaled (Third Time) JRE.. and still have following problem:... Xubuntu 6.10 problem: When I try to use letter wizzard in OpenOffice I get the following: "OpenOffice.org requires Jaca runtime enviroment (JRE) to perform this task. Please install JRE and restart OpenOffice.org" but I allready have java runtime enviroment and java 6 plugin installed. What should I do next?
[12:06] <visik7> hi
[12:06] <visik7> How can I remove all gksu of asking me password ?
[12:06] <fierycleric> babo: have a  look at /etc/init.d/README ... and /usr/share/doc/upstart dir ....
[12:07] <LMJ> visik7 : That's a bad idea anyway... everybody will have a part of the root priviledges... but you should check out /etc/sudoers
[12:07] <tiddi> gd everyone
[12:07] <Rich_li_ny> Visik I wouldnt even consider doing that.
[12:08] <fierycleric> visik7: login as root?
[12:09] <visik7> LMJ, nobody use my pc I just want to put the password at boot it's safely enought for me
[12:10] <macabro22> So what do you guys think? Is there a way for me to get the linux-mint wifi compatibility, since its ubuntu-based, without having to install it entirely?
[12:10] <visik7> fierycleric, no I don't want login as root
[12:10] <macabro22> Maybe by adding the repository lines to my synaptic manager?
[12:10] <visik7> fierycleric, I just don't want to put the password every now and then when I do things like upgrade or set the clock
[12:11] <kenthomson> !sudo | visik7
[12:11] <ubotu> visik7: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:11] <fierycleric> visik7: maybe man sudoers.... dont know if its possible
[12:12] <kenthomson> visik7: you shall find what you need there
[12:12] <macabro22> Yeah.. inputting the password all the time is tireing
[12:12] <kenthomson> macabro22: absolutely
[12:12] <cjae> why if I have two separate x server sessions (screens) can I not run ff in both at once??
[12:12] <hylje> cjae: firefox limitation; i believe there is a switch that disables it
[12:13] <cjae> hylje, like you mean I setting
[12:13] <cjae> a
[12:13] <YNWA> is there a way of changing the contrast of a screen display (I have a laptop, so i can't change it manually)
[12:14] <cjae> hylje, or actual limitation
[12:14] <hylje> cjae: by default firefox does not want to have several processes of firefox around
[12:14] <fierycleric> cjae: you can create two profiles ....
[12:14] <cjae> ??
[12:15] <qaws> hi, how to install cedega? i found this: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Cedega+CVS , but sh WineCVS.sh doesnt work - test: 43: ==: unexpected operator and WineCVS.sh: 48: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[12:15] <cjae> So what you hylje fierycleric  are saying is that firefox does not want to have several processes of one profile around
[12:15] <hylje> cjae: pretty much
[12:15] <cjae> ic
[12:16] <cjae> ok if I have port 34500 is this port udp or tcp or both?? do all ports have both tcp and udp??
[12:17] <fierycleric> cjae: udp ports are different from tcp ports....
[12:17] <Luke74> hi, i updated from 2.6.17-11-386 to 2.6.20-15-386. No I can't boot anymore, there's a message "failed to start the X server" and "Error: Microcode 'bcm43xx_microcode5.fw' not available or load failed. What should I do (
[12:17] <Luke74> ?
[12:17] <YNWA> is there a way of changing the contrast of a screen display (I have a laptop, so i can't change it manually)
[12:17] <qaws> Luke74: have you backup?
[12:17] <cjae> fierycleric, but essentially there is not two set 65xxx for ports right
[12:18] <cjae> sets
[12:18] <qaws> hi, how to install cedega pls? i found this: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Cedega+CVS , but sh WineCVS.sh doesnt work - test: 43: ==: unexpected operator and WineCVS.sh: 48: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[12:18] <Frogzoo> YNWA: is this an ati vid card?
[12:18] <Luke74> qaws: no, but I don't need any of the stuff I have on my ubuntu partition. Are you saying I should get a new DVD and reinstall?
[12:18] <YNWA> frogzoo:nope, intel
[12:19] <xlinux_> Luke74: does that error remind you of any program you used to run?
[12:19] <qaws> Luke: it is the easiest way, but someone can help you without reinstall
[12:19] <gnudles> good morning
[12:20] <perlmonkey> mornin
[12:20] <Luke74> xlinux_: no, I'm a total Linux newbie and I haven't run many progs yet...
[12:20] <Rich_li_ny> GM
[12:20] <Luke74> qaws: i will reinstall then...
[12:20] <fierycleric> cjae: two sets?  ... they are different , there are 2^16 udp ports and 2^16 tcp ports they are different
[12:20] <kenthomson> Luke74: did you do anything except upgrade the kernel?
[12:21] <kenthomson> Luke74: maybe something with the video drivers or change the graphic card?
[12:21] <SlimeyPete> qaws: I just took a look at the manpage for "test". There isn't a -a option. That might be the problem?
[12:21] <cjae> fierycleric, so if I am told to open port 1943 how do I know if that is tcp or udp ??
[12:21] <Luke74> kenthomson: no, definitely not that (i don't even know how that's done...)
[12:21] <kenthomson> Luke74: when it says can't start the x-server press ok, and than ctrl-alt-f1, login with your username and password
[12:21] <gnudles> do you know how to get ubuntu  gusty gibbon?
[12:21] <gnudles> 7.10
[12:21] <fierycleric> cjae: you dont :) ... they need to tell you ....
[12:21] <PriceChild> !gutsy | gnudles
[12:21] <ubotu> gnudles: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1
[12:22] <Frogzoo> YNWA: you need someway of tweaking the driver's gamma - not sure how to on intel
[12:22] <kenthomson> Luke74: you will be in text-mode
[12:22] <kenthomson> Luke74: What graphic card do you have?
[12:22] <gnudles> i now they will release it in october
[12:22] <YNWA> frogzoo: damn, because with the gamma command and the brightness, the contrast is too great
[12:22] <Toma-> gnudles: gutsy is basically in massive chunks right now. from what i heard
[12:22] <Frogzoo> very early days for gutsy
[12:22] <kenthomson> PriceChild: Is there some way we can make Gusty Gibbon --> Gusty Gnudles?
[12:22] <xlinux_> does anyone know if Phoenix BIOS (it sucks I know) offers ACPI support to Linux?
[12:23] <cjae> fierycleric, so how do I tell firestarter which protocol to use
[12:23] <Luke74> kenthomson: i don't even know. some nvidia i think. i will reinstall, that's definitely less hassle.... thanks though.
[12:23] <qaws> SlimeyPete: where should be this option?
[12:23] <fierycleric> cjae: sorry ive never used firestarter
[12:23] <gnudles> thanx
[12:23] <kenthomson> Luke74: as you wish but as your system is untouched we could make it work if you try
[12:24] <cjae> fierycleric,  do you manually edit iptables
[12:24] <SlimeyPete> qaws: dunno. Nowhere. Maybe the problem is that Ubuntu uses Dash rather than Bash.
[12:24] <fierycleric> cjae: yeah
[12:24] <SlimeyPete> (when it runs scripts)
[12:24] <Luke74> kenthomson: i'm way too afraid of command lines... ;-P
[12:24] <kenthomson> Luke74: nothing to be happy about, but as you wish
[12:25] <nafis_devlpr> does anyone know how to archive an ubuntu package, so that I can transfer the soft to another PC
[12:25] <sunny__su> wel
[12:25] <fierycleric> nafis_devlpr: i think they are already compressed if thats what you mean.....
[12:25] <qaws> SlimeyPete: so it is not cedega on ubuntu?
[12:25] <babo> guys, how do I set a command to run on system startup ?
[12:25] <babo> where has chkconfig gone ?
[12:25] <cjae> fierycleric, do you know where there is a manual for mentally challenged ??
[12:26] <SlimeyPete> qaws: I don't understand what you mean
[12:26] <fierycleric> cjae: :) .... um manual for what? iptables? ....
[12:27] <nafis_devlpr> i meant I want to transfer a soft to another PC
[12:27] <qaws> SlimeyPete: can cedega work on ubuntu? is any sollution?
[12:27] <nafis_devlpr> which has been already downloaded directly using apt-get
[12:27] <ajmorris_> qaws, cedega works on ubuntu, i use it
[12:27] <cjae> fierycleric, I have tried to get into one manual but I was like not attending high school and going to harvard
[12:28] <SlimeyPete> qaws: yes, it can work. The best solution is either to pay for the .deb package (by subscribing to transgaming) or to download it from a torrent site.
[12:28] <cjae> fierycleric, yes iptables
[12:28] <kenthomson> nafis_devlpr: the package you download would be as a .deb, if you installed something from synaptic/apt-get look for the .deb @ /var/cache/apt/archives for the corresponding .deb, Take that (copy with sudo i.e. gksudo nautilus and copy-paste) to removable media to the pc you want, and double click that deb package
[12:28] <daedra> hmm it seems that compiz is still a bit unstable in Feisty
[12:29] <magfrump> hello
[12:29] <daedra> after a long session of messing around it always hangs needing cold boot
[12:29] <kenthomson> babo: the GUI way is System>preferences>session "new" and type the command
[12:29] <PriceChild> daedra, on the desktop-effects window it states that is an experiemental feature, a technology preview etc. etc.
[12:29] <qaws> SlimeyPete: thx, i will try
[12:29] <kenthomson> PriceChild: I have a serious compiz problem would you help?
[12:29] <daedra> PriceChild: I know, but i'm getting needy like a spoilt child
[12:30] <ikonia> kenthomson: just ask the question
[12:30] <daedra> I want stability AND wiggly windows :)
[12:30] <Heavenquake> daedra: make up your mind: You want a stable system, or an expirimental and not-so stable system
[12:30] <nafis_devlpr> kenthomson: but what bout dependencies???
[12:30] <ikonia> daedra: 7.04 is pretty close to that
[12:30] <kenthomson> ikonia: it's long and tedious and someone might ban me from flooding the channel?
[12:30] <kenthomson> nafis_devlpr: when you run that *.deb in another system if there are missing dependencies than that package will not install and clearly state the dependencies it needs
[12:30] <ikonia> kenthomson: don't start with all that ban stuff again, you're on your god knows how many chance, just ask the question if you want help
[12:31] <fierycleric> cjae: well there is always "man iptables" , but it is quite complicated , there are probably much easier ways of setting up simple firewall rules
[12:31] <fierycleric> !firewall
[12:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:31] <kenthomson> nafis_devlpr: another idea is to manually run the deb package on your system and look for dependencies and take those *.deb with you
[12:31] <daedra> ikonia: i can mess around with it safely for about 2 hours
[12:31] <ikonia> daedra: then what happens
[12:31] <daedra> ikonia: i'm talking videos on every side of the cube
[12:32] <nafis_devlpr> kenthomson: is there any way to get the dependencies in the PC where its already installed
[12:32] <ikonia> daedra: seems reasonable
[12:32] <daedra> then it just freezes but I can hear the video
[12:32] <ikonia> nafis_devlpr: if its already installed it has the dependencies
[12:32] <daedra> unable to CTRL+ALT+BKSPACE out
[12:32] <daedra> or any keybindings
[12:32] <ikonia> daedra: so the graphics locks but the rest of the box hangs, or just the window manager
[12:32] <tri3axe> how is the 3d desktop beryl/compiz/nvidia on ubuntu now?
[12:32] <kenthomson> nafis_devlpr: in the pc that it is already installed look for the dependencies tab in the deb-package window (when you double click it) and note their name and take the corresponding *.debs with you to another pc along with the main .deb
[12:32] <ikonia> but sound is still playing
[12:32] <Frogzoo> daedra: ctrl alt f1 to get to terminal ?
[12:32] <ikonia> tri3axe: much better
[12:33] <daedra> Frogzoo: useless
[12:33] <kenthomson> tri3axe: exactly 3d
[12:33] <PriceChild> tri3axe, experiemental, unstable, will not work on all machines.
[12:33] <xlinux_> I dont have any probs
[12:33] <daedra> mpd was running at the time and didn't stop playing my music
[12:33] <ikonia> daedra: for arguments sake, disable 3d effects and try running for a few hours
[12:33] <ikonia> daedra: could give you an idea if there is driver issue over a driver ---> compiz issue
[12:33] <daedra> ikonia: its smooth as a peach without compiz on
[12:34] <fierycleric> daedra: i've found beryl more stable than compiz ... and you can always switch back to metacity when needed
[12:34] <tri3axe> i tried to enable "desktop effects" but it said composite extension not available.. i have a 8800gtx
[12:34] <kenthomson> ikonia: could you come to #kens-world, i would like to paste my problem there.
[12:34] <ikonia> kenthomson: just use a pastebin
[12:34] <PriceChild> tri3axe, #ubuntu-effects for composite support
[12:34] <ikonia> daedra: have some system monitors running and monitor it for a while see if memory or cpu are climing and staying hihg
[12:34] <ikonia> high
[12:35] <tri3axe> but is desktop effects better than the compiz/beryl thingy? i really ask whats best to use with nvidia card..heh
[12:35] <fierycleric> !backport
[12:35] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[12:35] <fierycleric> !forwardport
[12:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about forwardport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <fierycleric> dam
[12:36] <nafis_devlpr> kenthomson: but there is no tab named dependecies
[12:36] <RainCT> hi
[12:36] <kenthomson> nafis_devlpr: let me check
[12:36] <nafis_devlpr> kenthomson: only included files which contains installed files
[12:37] <ikonia> nafis_devlpr: what exactly do you want to know
[12:37] <kenthomson> nafis_devlpr: i see..one can't check for it through the window but if you were missing some dependencies than i dialog box would tell you upon installing
[12:38] <kenthomson> ikonia: he wants to carry a .deb to another ubuntu box along with all it's dependencies so that he can install it there (he doesn't know how to manually select all the dependencies)
[12:38] <ikonia> you can't carry dependencies from one box to another - you re-install them on the new box
[12:39] <kenthomson> ikonia: what is the new box doesn't have internet
[12:39] <kenthomson> ikonia: assume it's a offline box
[12:39] <ikonia> then he'x screwed
[12:39] <ikonia> he needs to burn them onto a cd
[12:39] <ikonia> or something along those lines
[12:39] <babo> I've tried to get gnome to run a command on system startup using the sessions tab. It won't work though...
[12:40] <ikonia> babo: what command
[12:40] <nafis_devlpr> bingo now u got it
[12:40] <babo> can someone tell what ubuntu has done to the chkconfig command ?
[12:40] <blackjackel> does Ubuntu support the .BWT cd image extension?
[12:40] <ikonia> nafis_devlpr: download the dependencies onto a cd and move hem along
[12:40] <babo> I never realized getting a program on runlevel 3 would be so difficult ...
[12:40] <ikonia> babo: chkconfig is nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:40] <nafis_devlpr> okay here is the scenario
[12:40] <kenthomson> ikonia: let's say i downloaded a package A from apt-get and it's in my /var/cache/apt/archives, now i want to carry that package A to another box along with all the dependencies on a USB, how would i so it?
[12:41] <kenthomson> ikonia: *do
[12:41] <nafis_devlpr> suppose I downloaded emacs
[12:41] <babo> ikonia: cd /home/babo/django/flowerhour && python manage.py runserver 8080
[12:41] <nafis_devlpr> using apt-get install
[12:41] <babo> I want to start django automatically ? There's no man page for 'upstart' ...
[12:41] <nafis_devlpr> now i want emacs in another ubuntu box which has no inet connection
[12:41] <babo> ikonia: what does ubuntu use nowadays ?
[12:42] <kenthomson> !enter | nafis_devlpr
[12:42] <ubotu> nafis_devlpr: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:42] <ikonia> BoBo: for what ?
[12:42] <PriceChild> !pm | kenthomson
[12:42] <ubotu> kenthomson: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[12:42] <kenthomson> ikonia: my question?
[12:42] <czester> hello
[12:42] <kenthomson> PriceChild: i asked it here and thought your expertise could help me more
[12:42] <ikonia> nafis_devlpr: then you download the packages onto a cd or use the ubuntu cd and install them on the other omputer
[12:42] <ikonia> kenthomson: I told you to ask in the channel
[12:42] <babo> can someone please tell me how to run a script on startup ?
[12:43] <kenthomson> PriceChild: ikonia:  I have got a compiz problem I have written it in detail here:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21548/, would you please take a look?
[12:43] <nafis_devlpr> wait a minute
[12:43] <gonnaeatthat> hey guys whats the kill command for an application firefox is not responding and need to restart it
[12:43] <ikonia> babo: gnome can't "cd" gnome is a window manager not a shell
[12:43] <ikonia> gonnaeatthat: the command is "kill"
[12:43] <kenthomson> ikonia: i asked a question to you other than this above
[12:43] <nafis_devlpr> how will i know the which files to copy??
[12:43] <gonnaeatthat> kill firefox???
[12:43] <ikonia> kenthomson: the one about moving .debs ?
[12:43] <Overdose_> Hey, help me howto fail the ubuntu cd at stage 1 so thet i can runt ftp installer
[12:43] <kenthomson> ikonia: yes
[12:43] <kenthomson> ikonia: I want to do it via a usb-drive
[12:44] <ikonia> kenthomson: just copy the debs from the host system, onto the usb drive, then move them to the new pc
[12:44] <TurtleBoots> anyone know how to find out RAM details on Ubuntu?
[12:44] <PriceChild> TurtleBoots, top
[12:44] <ikonia> TurtleBoots: free
[12:44] <nafis_devlpr> same thing, any portable media will do
[12:44] <ikonia> nafis_devlpr: exactly
[12:44] <TurtleBoots> i.e. how much ram the system has?
[12:44] <babo> ikonia: right thanks. That doesn't answer my question though .... I guess I'll just have to write my own startup script ...
[12:44] <moi> what is the canal for french
[12:44] <ikonia> babo: what do you want it to do ?
[12:44] <kenthomson> ikonia: you see i also would like to take the dependencies with it, but in this case i don't know what dependencies this particular package has, so how do i find that out and carry those deb's as well?
[12:44] <ikonia> !fr >moi
[12:44] <cjae> how come I only see 503 MB of my physical ram
[12:44] <ikonia> kenthomson: try dpkg -I $file
[12:44] <PriceChild> babo, gnome startup or computer startup?
[12:44] <ikonia> cjae: shared video card taking ram ?
[12:45] <PriceChild> ikonia, double clicking is a lot easier ;)
[12:45] <kenthomson> ikonia: is that a "-L"? lower-case?
[12:45] <cjae> ikonia, nvidia agp
[12:45] <ikonia> PriceChild: ha ha ha
[12:45] <ikonia> kenthomson: no capital I
[12:46] <kenthomson> PriceChild: Are you going to help me with the compiz problem
[12:46] <babo> PriceChild: either ...
[12:46] <PriceChild> !startup | babo
[12:46] <ubotu> babo: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[12:46] <moi> je ne sais pas me servir de cet outil !
[12:46] <PriceChild> kenthomson, I don't remember offering.... help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:46] <ikonia> kenthomson: your compiz problem is either a software bug, or your system is running low on resources
[12:46] <PriceChild> moi, /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:46] <babo> PriceChild: I've tried that already. I need a command line startup.
[12:46] <kenthomson> ikonia: your solution is not helping i want to just know the name of the dependency deb's that are required for installing a Package so that i can copy them also the my usb
[12:46] <PriceChild> babo, haha ok well not either then :)
[12:46] <cjae> ikonia, what the command to see or can  I just check /proc to see if gui is lying
[12:46] <ikonia> kenthomson: does dpkg -I not give you the list of dependencies ?
[12:47] <ikonia> cjae: the command for what sorry
[12:47] <moi> pricechild oui mais comment pardon pour le nul que je suis
[12:47] <enyc> Hrrm this is odd... on Feisty.. with 3c589 (as only network device) the kernel reports it has assigned eth0 (in dmesg) but  actually eth1 is the device that works (dhclient ifconfig etc.)
[12:47] <TurtleBoots> is there any way of testing the amount of RAM in a syste?
[12:47] <PriceChild> moi, je ne comprends pas
[12:47] <cjae> ikonia, to see installed ram
[12:47] <babo> PriceChild: why is a command line startup not relevant for the system startup ?
[12:47] <TurtleBoots> in Ubunut
[12:47] <ikonia> cjae: free
[12:47] <enyc> TurtleBoots: cat /proc/meminfo
[12:47] <kenthomson> ikonia: it gives some complex output i don't know how to reduce it to the name of dependency deb's
[12:47] <Frogzoo> enyc: check /etc/iftab
[12:47] <ikonia> TurtleBoots: yes the grub boot option for memtest
[12:47] <PriceChild> babo, you answered "either" when i asked "gnome or system"
[12:47] <TurtleBoots> ikonia how will that test it?
[12:48] <SlimeyPete> TurtleBoots: "top" will tell you how much RAM you have
[12:48] <ikonia> TurtleBoots: a load of mini programs run test
[12:48] <enyc> Frogzoo: hey wow i didnt know about that ;-)
[12:48] <ben_underscore> anyone know about apache config?
[12:48] <ikonia> SlimeyPete: depending on your system top can sometimes lie about that
[12:48] <PriceChild> babo, erm I'm really not sure of the best way to add it on system startup sorry...
[12:48] <PriceChild> !anyone | ben_underscore
[12:48] <ubotu> ben_underscore: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:48] <ikonia> ben_underscore: whats up
[12:48] <enyc> Frogzoo: all the same i havent set anything in there
[12:48] <TurtleBoots> thanks guys !! :-)
[12:48] <enyc> Frogzoo: ill need to boot that system etc.
[12:48] <kenthomson> PriceChild: Will you please take a look at my compiz problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21548/.
[12:48] <Frogzoo> enyc: but if you do, your nics won't swap around
[12:48] <SlimeyPete> ikonia: how so? I've found it reliable.
[12:48] <ikonia> kenthomson: your compiz problem is either a software/driver interaction issue or your system is running low on resources
[12:49] <PriceChild> kenthomson, compositing support in #ubuntu-effects. Someone will help you if they can.
[12:49] <ikonia> SlimeyPete: sometimes top just randomly lies about ram
[12:49] <enyc> Frogzoo: thing is ive onlry got one
[12:49] <ben_underscore> PriceChild:  yeah ok, sorry. i wanted to config apache so i could have a public_html directory in my home dir and run some php in that, but i cannot remember the directives for apache2.conf
[12:49] <nafis_devlpr> kenthomson: okay there is a list of some files, are those the depedencies??
[12:49] <mogwai> a2enmod userdir as root
[12:49] <ikonia> kenthomson: do "dpkg -I $file_name_of_deb" and look at the line that says Depends: x11-common, libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1), libfontenc1, libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2), libxau6, libxdmcp6, libxfont1, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1)
[12:49] <enyc> Frogzoo: theres no other pci/usb internal/external it would be seeing as ethernet
[12:49] <kenthomson> PriceChild: i went there and they were equally clueless, but i saw your tutorial for compiz so i thought you would be in a better position to help, please take a look
[12:49] <ikonia> for example
[12:49] <ben_underscore> mogwai: ah!
[12:49] <PriceChild> ben_underscore, I know this one!!! :P gimme a second to remember :P
[12:50] <ikonia> kenthomson: look at the Depends line
[12:50] <kenthomson> ikonia: i did dkpg -l nano and got no depends line
[12:50] <cjae> ikonia, Mem:        515948
[12:50] <PriceChild> kenthomson, I'm not going to ask again. support for compositing in #ubuntu-effects. At least wait for an answer
[12:50] <kenthomson> ikonia: and also tried ktorrent
[12:50] <mogwai> lucky - I just joined
[12:50] <ikonia> kenthomson: its not -l - i've told you 2 times, its -I
[12:50] <enyc> Frogzoo: but I still get eth0 as a "useless device" and eth1 as working ethernet
[12:50] <enyc> Frogzoo: and eth2/onwards do not exist etc.
[12:50] <kenthomson> eye or L?
[12:50] <nafis_devlpr> ikonia: okay this is one solution
[12:50] <kenthomson> ikonia: eye or L
[12:50] <kenthomson> nafis_devlpr: i really don't know how
[12:51] <ikonia> kenthomson: 4th time - "-I" captial i
[12:51] <PriceChild> ben_underscore, still with you... bear with me please :)
[12:51] <nafis_devlpr>  kenthomson: use capital i
[12:51] <cjae> where does the system load monitor gather info from
[12:51] <fierycleric> i think apt-cache --recurse showpkg <package i want depends for>  ... will show you all the dependencies , then just have to find the file names for those dependencies
[12:51] <Frogzoo> enyc: well for some reason it thinks something is using eth0, so decided to use eth1 instead
[12:51] <fierycleric> they might not be in cache tho
[12:51] <ikonia> cjae: direct kernel interaction, probably through proc
[12:52] <kenthomson> ikonia: ken@ken-desktop:~$ dkpg -I nano
[12:52] <kenthomson> bash: dkpg: command not found
[12:52] <hydan> how can i remove evolution and gaim?
[12:52] <kenthomson> ikonia: wait sorry
[12:52] <ikonia> kenthomson: dpkg
[12:52] <enyc> Frogzoo: yes... hence weird to me ;-)
[12:52] <cjae> ikonia, it says only 240 of 503 used but free says Mem:        515948     480460      35488          0      14460     236672
[12:52] <cjae> -/+ buffers/cache:     229328     286620
[12:52] <nafis_devlpr> ikonia: is there any another way??
[12:52] <kenthomson> ikonia: dpkg-deb: failed to read archive `nano': No such file or directory
[12:52] <ikonia> hydan: apt-get remove - but beware they are associated with the gnome-desktop meta package
[12:53] <xlinux_> hydan.. go to add/remove programs and search for them.. then uncheck the box next to them
[12:53] <ikonia> kenthomson: you've not put the file name as I told you
[12:53] <ikonia> nafis_devlpr: other way than what ?
[12:53] <enyc> Frogzoo: however it now makes sense to me that udev may be renaming the interface
[12:53] <ikonia> nafis_devlpr: what options are you looking for
[12:53] <enyc> Frogzoo: regardless of what kernel says it may be
[12:53] <nafis_devlpr> ikonia: i want a more ezier way
[12:53] <enyc> Frogzoo: i.e. i need te experiment with iftabe and read udev logs etc
[12:54] <nafis_devlpr> ikonia: like a command which will make it a tarball
[12:54] <PriceChild> ben_underscore, its meant to be in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default but the example of it no longer exists it seems....
[12:54] <nafis_devlpr> ikonia: or something like that
[12:54] <fierycleric> cjae: the free column on the +/- buffers/cache row is the amount of free memory (well closest to it)
[12:54] <kenthomson> ikonia: you mean the $ thing? I though that was an example of name, let me re0read
[12:54] <ben_underscore> PriceChild: ikonia: yeah i just did "sudo a2enmod userdir"
[12:54] <hydan> xlinux_, i'm aware they are both linked to some other packages, how do i know which ones?
[12:54] <enyc> Frogzoo: thankyou for pointing me at that file etc. ;-)
[12:54] <ikonia> nafis_devlpr: don't make a tar ball, it breaks your package managers dependencie tracking
[12:54] <ben_underscore> PriceChild: ikonia: then i edited /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[12:55] <ikonia> ben_underscore: bare with me, just looking
[12:55] <PriceChild> ben_underscore, what'd you put there?
[12:55] <Frogzoo> enyc: does ifconfig -a show both ifs ?
[12:55] <ben_underscore> <IfModule mod_userdir.c>
[12:55] <ben_underscore> # user directory stuff
[12:55] <ben_underscore>    UserDir public_html

[12:55] <ikonia> ben_underscore: that looks fine
[12:55] <nafis_devlpr> ikonia: no I meant it will make me a tarball, so that i can untar it and then install
[12:55] <enyc> Frogzoo: ill need to get the macihen and boot it etc.
[12:55] <ben_underscore> then  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload
[12:55] <xlinux_> i believe if you type sudo apt-get remove programname   it will tell which libraries it will remove
[12:55] <enyc> Frogzoo: please tell me what i should conclude if i see both with ifconfig -a  ... and if not
[12:56] <ikonia> nafis_devlpr: tar cvf $tar_file $list_of_debs
[12:56] <ben_underscore> and it works like a treat
[12:56] <ben_underscore> thanks for your help ikonia and PriceChild
[12:56] <PriceChild> ben_underscore, have you restart........ oh it works...
[12:56] <ikonia> ben_underscore: I did nothing, you where already there
[12:56] <PriceChild> ben_underscore, well done :)
[12:56] <nafis_devlpr> ikonia: but I have to supply the list of depeds
[12:56] <kenthomson> ikonia: dpkg -I $filenano.deb, dpkg -I $file nano.deb, dpkg -I $file nano, dpkg -I $file nano. NONE WORK
[12:56] <enyc> Frogzoo: so I may see lo,eth1 ... or lo,eth0,eth1  therefore
[12:56] <ikonia> nafis_devlpr: so supply the list of dependency names
[12:56] <enyc> Frogzoo: what do I conclude/check for each case?
[12:56] <ikonia> kenthomson: remove $file - repalce $file with the package name
[12:57] <ikonia> kenthomson: are stop using caps
[12:57] <PriceChild> kenthomson, have you tried double clicking the file?
[12:57] <ben_underscore> ikonia and PriceChild, I'm learning jquery which is a javascript ajax library, really interesting if you're into that stuff
[12:57] <kenthomson> PriceChild: yeah
[12:57] <hydan> the ubuntu desktop will be removed if i uninstall gaim according to apt
[12:57] <Newone_> please can anybody tell me here how abcde works
[12:57] <PriceChild> ben_underscore, haha... sounds it.... :P
[12:57] <bluej774> In the Removable Drives and Media Preferences menu, what are the codes for %d and %m?
[12:57] <ikonia> ben_underscore: not by bag, not a good java guy
[12:57] <kenthomson> PriceChild: i just want to know the name of dependency debs not the places where each file is going to be installed
[12:57] <fierycleric> !abcde
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about abcde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <enyc> !dvorak
[12:57] <ubotu> dvorak is a keyboard layout that aims to be more comfortable and efficient alternative to the standard "QWERTY" pattern. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard
[12:57] <ikonia> kenthomson: dpkg -I $debian_file_name works
[12:58] <Frogzoo> enyc: if you don't see eth0, then it will never be allocated, if you do see eth0, it means something is holding onto it, preventing it being allocated
[12:58] <kenthomson> ikonia: that means dpkg -I nano or dpkg -I nano.deb none work
[12:58] <ikonia> kenthomson: yes they do
[12:58] <ikonia> kenthomson: show me the error
[12:58] <PriceChild> kenthomson, packages.ubuntu.com will help you find dependencies.
[12:58] <ben_underscore> PriceChild and ikonia - buy guys. thanks
[12:58] <enyc> Frogzoo: I see...
[12:58] <kenthomson> ikonia: ken@ken-desktop:~$ dpkg -I nano
[12:58] <kenthomson> dpkg-deb: failed to read archive `nano': No such file or directory
[12:58] <kenthomson> ken@ken-desktop:~$ dpkg -I nano.deb
[12:58] <kenthomson> dpkg-deb: failed to read archive `nano.deb': No such file or directory
[12:58] <kenthomson> PriceChild: no way to do it offline?
[12:58] <ikonia> kenthomson: your not in the directory of the .deb file
[12:58] <bluej774> Pardon me.  Can someone answer a question about Ubuntu's automounting options menus?
[12:58] <nafis_devlpr> ikonia: i want a command like dpkg which will get the depends and give me a compact tarball
[12:58] <PriceChild> kenthomson, offline there's no way to get the packages in the first place.
[12:58] <Newone_> or how to transform ogg files in mp3 files
[12:58] <ikonia> nafis_devlpr: that command doesn't exist
[12:58] <PriceChild> bluej774, ask the question and maybe someone can help :)
[12:59] <enyc> Frogzoo: I ought to pay attention to the interrupt / base address / hwaddr  of the devices and seee fi i can see what is doing it
[12:59] <bluej774> In the Removable Drives and Media Preferences menu, what are the codes for %d and %m?
[12:59] <nafis_devlpr> ikonia: hmm :(
[12:59] <PriceChild> ikonia, actually....
[12:59] <kenthomson> PriceChild: let's say i downloaded a package A from apt-get and it's in my /var/cache/apt/archives, now i want to carry that package A to another box along with all the dependencies on a USB, how would i so it?
[12:59] <ikonia> PriceChild: correct me
[12:59] <kenthomson> ikonia: now you say this?
[12:59] <enyc> Frogzoo: might be a virtual interface or something (like eth-ieee1394 support) being started for some reason
[12:59] <PriceChild> ikonia, there is a way to get all packages downloaded but not install
[12:59] <ikonia> kenthomson: I've said that all along
[12:59] <fierycleric> !soundconverter
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundconverter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <ikonia> PriceChild: yes, but he doesn't have internet connection
[12:59] <fierycleric> !info soundconverter
[12:59] <PriceChild> kenthomson, drag it onto the usb stick usign the gui
[12:59] <ubotu> soundconverter: convert sound files to other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 67 kB, installed size 360 kB
[12:59] <ikonia> PriceChild: he wants to extract from the system
[12:59] <PriceChild> ikonia, well then he can't get the packages at all?
[12:59] <ikonia> PriceChild: exactly
[01:00] <PriceChild> EOD
[01:00] <enyc> Frogzoo: anyway I stall experiment... thanyou for comments / really helpfully pointing me at iftab ;-)
[01:00] <Rich_li_ny> Just reinstalled Open Office writer ... and Its telling me I need to install Jave JRE.  I ave reinstalled Jave JRE 6 twice allread.. and reinstaleld Oen Office once.. does anyone have an answwer.. or should I try the OpenOffice website?
[01:00] <bluej774> I know that they stand for the paths to the media that was just mounted, but I need to know specifically where they point.
[01:00] <Frogzoo> enyc: yw, gl
[01:00] <bluej774> For example, what's the difference between %m and %d?
[01:00] <PriceChild> bluej774, do you mean in /media ?
[01:00] <enyc> Frogzoo: yw: no alias found
[01:00] <Rich_li_ny> << needs more coffee... his typing is terrible this morning
[01:00] <enyc> Frogzoo: gl: no alias found
[01:00] <kenthomson> PriceChild: what about the dependency-various.debs?
[01:01] <ikonia> kenthomson: you get that from dpkg -I on the target .deb file
[01:01] <bluej774> PriceChild, No.  Take a look at the Removable Drives and Media Preferences dialog and you'll see what I mean.
[01:01] <PriceChild> bluej774, sorry I don't understand the qu..... hehe which dialogue?
[01:02] <kenthomson> ikonia: got it thanks
[01:02] <Newone_> !soundconverter
[01:02] <Frogzoo> enyc: you don't have any onboard nics btw?
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundconverter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <bluej774> PriceChild, in Gnome, go to System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media
[01:02] <enyc> Frogzoo: correct
[01:02] <PriceChild> bluej774, ok gotcha...
[01:02] <Rich_li_ny> Whoooo hooooooooooooooo  I think I found problem :D.... I have to set the path for JRE in Open Office.. :)
[01:02] <nafis_devlpr> PriceChild, ikonia: now I know how to get the dependecies
[01:02] <PriceChild> bluej774, wow never seen that before :)
[01:02] <fierycleric> !info soundconverter | Newone_
[01:02] <ubotu> newone_: soundconverter: convert sound files to other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 67 kB, installed size 360 kB
[01:02] <bluej774> Great...
[01:02] <Newone_> how can i transform ogg files in mp3 files?
[01:03] <nafis_devlpr> PriceChild, ikonia: but is there anyway to make it compact tarball
[01:03] <asaka> anyone tried this patch to ksensors? http://palacsint.hu/progz/ksensors/patch-v3
[01:03] <bluej774> PriceChild, well thanks anyway.  I'll keep googling.
[01:03] <ikonia> nafis_devlpr: I've told you on two occasions now. No
[01:03] <PriceChild> bluej774, sorry I can't help.
[01:03] <cjae> I have two optical drives in my box a dvdrom-cdrw/ and a actual dvd+-rw now what is /dev/cdrom for ??
[01:03] <cjae> is it ln -s to the cdrw??
[01:03] <ikonia> cjae: a legacy compatabily devicce node
[01:03] <Newone_> fierycleric can just transform in wav files :(
[01:04] <asaka> cjae, look in fstab
[01:04] <nafis_devlpr> PriceChild, ikonia: any other way to get the dependecies??
[01:04] <Frogzoo> cjae: ls -l /dev/cdrom
[01:04] <ikonia> nafis_devlpr: I've told you about 5 times now, I don't want to go through it again. You have to get the dependencies from either an cd - alt media or the internet on another machine
[01:05] <Figaro> hi
[01:05] <nafis_devlpr> ikonia: sorry didn't get the msg before
[01:05] <fierycleric> !mp3 | Newone_
[01:05] <ubotu> Newone_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:05] <cjae> can I make of these bad boys for the dvdrw??
[01:05] <Figaro> i nee some advve for mac os x
[01:05] <Figaro> advice
[01:05] <PriceChild> !offtopic | Figaro
[01:05] <ubotu> Figaro: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:05] <cjae> it is for the cdrw device
[01:06] <bluej774> PriceChild, I found the answer through playing around if you'd like to know.
[01:06] <PriceChild> bluej774, yes definitely...
[01:06] <claesson92> I'm using Win XP right now and i'm using Visual C++ Express for my programming. Wich C++ IDE should i choose when/if i changes to Ubuntu?
[01:06] <PriceChild> bluej774, ah i see mc44 told you in -offtopic :)
[01:06] <bluej774> PriceChild, %d refers to the device, ie /dev/scd0, whereas %m refers to the path, ie /media/cdrom
[01:06] <cjae> there also is /dev/dvd which point to the cdrw also should there not be one for dvdrw
[01:07] <fierycleric> claesson92: eclipse has good C/C++ support
[01:07] <cjae> nevermind
[01:07] <bluej774> PriceChild, if there are any other variables, I don't know them.
[01:07] <cjae> /dev/dvdrw
[01:07] <PriceChild> bluej774, there's always more :)
[01:07] <bluej774> PriceChile, I wish I could find them... :(
[01:07] <cjae> sorry no other distro detected it properly before
[01:07] <fierycleric> claesson92: its also for windows so you can try it before you use it under linux
[01:07] <claesson92> Ok, thanks.
[01:07] <bluej774> *PriceChild (sorry)
[01:08] <PriceChild> bluej774, tab completion for the win ;)
[01:08] <PriceChild> bluej774, type the first couple of characters then press <tab>
[01:08] <PriceChild> bluej774, it works in the terminal as well
[01:08] <bluej774> PriceChild, yeah, I got it now.
[01:08] <bluej774> PriceChild, I forgot about it.
[01:09] <kenthomson> PriceChild: I uploaded some screenshots of the incorrectly drawn title-bars for you to see, check them out at #ubuntu-effects
[01:09] <Figaro> how do i install
[01:09] <Figaro> ubuntu on my mac
[01:09] <Figaro> ?
[01:09] <imase> you need a ppc-version
[01:09] <PriceChild> imase, no
[01:09] <PriceChild> Figaro, is it ppc or x86 based?
[01:09] <ikonia> kenthomson: did you get my message on your compiz issue, I posted it a few times
[01:09] <imase> oh sry
[01:09] <Figaro> ppc
[01:10] <PriceChild> !ppc | Figaro
[01:10] <ubotu> Figaro: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[01:10] <Figaro> Tack sa mycket
[01:10] <Figaro> thx a  lot
[01:10] <Notten> when i write pppoeconf at console it doesnt recognize my usb modem, but the red light at the modem is working,.. how to fix that?
[01:10] <ikonia> PriceChild: wasn't aware ppc had been dropped from 7.04
[01:10] <PriceChild> ikonia, community port now
[01:10] <claesson92> What's most commonly used in ubuntu? NTSF, FAT32 or somethin else?
[01:10] <kenthomson> ikonia: Sorry i didn't get your answer
[01:10] <ikonia> yeah, totally missed that happen
[01:10] <Frogzoo> Notten: sudo pppoeconf
[01:10] <kenthomson> ikonia: would you like to have a loot at my original question at the pastebin and these screen-shots?
[01:11] <Notten> Frogzoo thats what i did
[01:11] <mc44> bluej774: there is also %h "Each appearance of %h in the command will be substituted with the HAL UDI of the newly added device."
[01:11] <ikonia> kenthomson: your compiz issue is either a lack of system resources being available stopping re-draw and the like, or an interfaction issue between the driver/desktop/compiz-xserver
[01:11] <Notten> Frogzoo it finds the network card but not the usb modem
[01:11] <Frogzoo> Notten: does your dsl use pppoe or dhcp ?
[01:11] <bluej774> mc44, Thanks.  Although that won't help me in this instance, it's good to know.
[01:11] <Notten> Frogzoo i have no idea
[01:11] <bluej774> mc44, where did you find that?
[01:12] <Notten> Frogzoo my model of the usb is access runner
[01:12] <mc44> bluej774: http://thunar.xfce.org/documentation/C/using-removable-media.html
[01:12] <scoobydoo28139> how do I get my system to recagnize my new sound card? I took my old one out and now there is no sound.
[01:12] <kenthomson> ikonia: even if i have just started the system, opened a single terminal window and this thing occurs? I have the system-monitor running and it shows nothing resource intensive
[01:12] <cjae> icon for nvidia settings in app menu??
[01:12] <ikonia> kenthomson: that is possible, be interested in seeing your swap resources, also that was only one of the possabilities I posted
[01:12] <Frogzoo> Notten: does ifconfig show your usb modem?
[01:13] <bluej774> mc44, thanks a bunch.  Could you give me an example of a HAL UDI?  I'm not sure what they look like.
[01:13] <Notten> Frogzoo nope
[01:13] <Notten> Frogzoo but i installed firmware and all that things
[01:13] <Frogzoo> Notten: unplug the modem, tail -f /var/log/messages, plug it back in - what's the output?
[01:14] <bluej774> mc44, isn't that just a number?
[01:14] <Notten> Frogzoo wait 5 mins
[01:14] <scoobydoo28139> any thoughts on what to do? os is ubuntu
[01:14] <cyber_brain_mfkg> hi all! how to remove program that i installed using ./configure - make - make install ????
[01:14] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: check if you have for example /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp0
[01:14] <bluej774> mc44, nevermind.  I found what it is.  Thanks anyway.
[01:14] <PriceChild> cyber_brain_mfkg, if you're lucky they'll have a make uninstall or something
[01:14] <ikonia> cyber_brain_mfkg: manually rm the files it installed
[01:14] <mc44> bluej774: lshal :)
[01:14] <scoobydoo28139> how ikona
[01:14] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: ls -la /dev/dsp
[01:15] <steveb> ok. im installing feisty but in console 4 i see that the package manager is asking a question. how do you type Y or N to the installer?
[01:15] <cypherdelic> make patch kernel
[01:15] <steveb> is it even possible?
[01:15] <cypherdelic> WARNING: $SHELL not set to bash.
[01:15] <scoobydoo28139> in terminal?
[01:15] <cypherdelic>  << how to fix that?
[01:15] <cyber_brain_mfkg> ok thanx!
[01:15] <kenthomson> ikonia: in the screenshots that i have posted, once can see my swap which is 16% in use, my load average= 0.66, Memory=60% by programs; 30% by cache, Processor=5-% in use, Disk=0-30% in use
[01:15] <ikonia> kenthomson: %16 swap is quite high for a few install
[01:15] <fierycleric> !info checkinstall | cyber_brain_mfkg
[01:15] <ubotu> cyber_brain_mfkg: checkinstall: installation tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 111 kB, installed size 540 kB
[01:15] <traubisoda> hi
[01:15] <ikonia> kenthomson: that should read high for a fresh boot
[01:15] <cypherdelic> WARNING: $SHELL not set to bash.
[01:15] <cypherdelic>  << how to fix that?
[01:16] <traubisoda> how can i reinstall firefox?
[01:16] <ikonia> traubisoda: why do you want to re-install it
[01:16] <PriceChild> traubisoda, tell us the real problem
[01:16] <kenthomson> ikonia: but it's just been 48 hours, besides that draw problem occurs everytime
[01:16] <ikonia> beat you ;)
[01:16] <ikonia> kenthomson: stop messing around with debug info, you just told me it was a fresh boot
[01:16] <traubisoda> problems with the tab function
[01:16] <ikonia> %16 swap is still a reasonable ammount
[01:17] <cypherdelic> make patch kernel
[01:17] <cypherdelic> WARNING: $SHELL not set to bash.
[01:17] <scoobydoo28139> ikonia: it says crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2007-05-19 07:10 /dev/dsp
[01:17] <fierycleric> s/firefox/googlefox/g
[01:17] <cypherdelic> please help
[01:17] <kenthomson> ikonia: i told you it was a fresh install and not a fresh boot, but this occurs in a fresh boot too
[01:17] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: check for /dev/dsp1 or dsp0
[01:17] <mc44> steveb: your installing from the alternate cd?
[01:17] <traubisoda> it opens everything in  a new windows
[01:17] <PriceChild> cypherdelic, you are trying to patch and so recompile a kernel?
[01:17] <traubisoda> window*
[01:17] <steveb> mc44: yep
[01:17] <PriceChild> traubisoda, edit > preferences
[01:17] <ikonia> kenthomson: %16 swap is a reasonable ammount though, thats a tad concerning
[01:17] <PriceChild> traubisoda, its somewhere in there
[01:17] <cypherdelic> PriceChild: right
[01:17] <traubisoda> i know
[01:17] <steveb> mc44: i can see the question in the syslog
[01:17] <kenthomson> traubisoda: Edite>Preferences>tab select open new windows in new TAB
[01:18] <steveb> is there any way to send an answer?
[01:18] <traubisoda> i've already selected it
[01:18] <traubisoda> but still don't works
[01:18] <PriceChild> cypherdelic, have you followed the wiki documentation? Please be aware that recompiling the kernel is not supported by Ubuntu. And we can not provide support for machiens with recompiled kernels due to unforseen changes
[01:18] <kenthomson> traubisoda: close and reload firefox
[01:18] <mc44> steveb: dunno, it never asked me a question before :) Is it hanging waiting for an answer?
[01:18] <steveb> yup
[01:18] <traubisoda> i've already do that
[01:18] <Brade1> there sure are a lot of people here
[01:18] <mc44> steveb: which package?
[01:18] <scoobydoo28139> ikonia: bash: /dev/dsp0: No such file or directory
[01:19] <cypherdelic> PriceChild: i want wlan packet injection, i dont care what im doing okay, dont feel responsible, just help me setting the bash
[01:19] <beni> All my linux icq clients dont work, is this problem experienced by someone else?
[01:19] <fierycleric> traubisoda: are you talking about other programs opening new windows?
[01:19] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: ok, thats cool, thinking
[01:19] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: and no dsp1
[01:19] <traubisoda> no:D
[01:19] <traubisoda> websites of course
[01:19] <scoobydoo28139> no
[01:19] <PriceChild> cypherdelic, have you read the wiki documentation?
[01:19] <steveb> mc44: oh... i see what happened. it failed on the install once, so i did it again and its asking if i want to overwrite the setting file
[01:19] <hoth676> the 64 bit question: just got myself a new compaq presario. all is fun and rosy, except for the OS (hehe). This comes with AMD Athlon 64. My q: do I need 64-bit builds to run on this, or are old 32-bit ones goona run just as well. If so, that's the advantage of 64-bit? Just bigger addressable  memory? Just a clueless 2-bit...
[01:19] <steveb> bugger. guess i will have to restart the install
[01:19] <cypherdelic> PriceChild: nope
[01:19] <PriceChild> hoth676, my advice is to use 32bit
[01:19] <PriceChild> !kernel
[01:19] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:20] <PriceChild> cypherdelic, please read that ^
[01:20] <bicky> Hello, I've ubuntu edgy on my pc, and the life cd of feisty. Can I update from this CD ?
[01:20] <scoobydoo28139> ikonia: are you registered?
[01:20] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: yes, why ?
[01:20] <cypherdelic> i just want to change the shell to bash
[01:20] <Notten> a
[01:20] <PriceChild> hoth676, the performance boosts are very marginal... unless you use huge databases or run a large openssh server for example
[01:20] <scoobydoo28139> ok can i pm?
[01:20] <cypherdelic> PriceChild: can you help me switch to bash first?
[01:20] <PriceChild> hoth676, also many programs don't come in the 64bit flavour
[01:20] <Notten> what the url of the site that i past there log and it gives me link to the log???
[01:20] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: I'd rather you didn't, the channel is fine for discussion
[01:20] <PriceChild> cypherdelic, type bash
[01:20] <traubisoda> or maybe i should update firefox?
[01:20] <scoobydoo28139> ok
[01:21] <cypherdelic> PriceChild: lol
[01:21] <Notten> Frogzoo what the url of the site that i past there log and it gives me link to the log???
[01:21] <steveb> PriceChild: i dunno. when i used gentoo, the performance increase of 64 bit seemed quite a lot
[01:21] <scoobydoo28139> ikonia: ok i wan't
[01:21] <fierycleric> traubisoda: try a new profile
[01:21] <Frogzoo> !pastebin | Notten
[01:21] <scoobydoo28139> *won't
[01:21] <ubotu> Notten: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:21] <PriceChild> steveb, I'm willing to bet a lot of money that the vast majority of that is placebo
[01:21] <ikonia> steveb: I doubt that unless your doing something like video editing or software development
[01:21] <cypherdelic> PriceChild: that didnt helped!
[01:21] <ikonia> steveb: most people see performance increase in their head
[01:21] <steveb> ikonia: i was doing both...
[01:21] <bicky> Can somebody tell me how to upgrade from cd ?
[01:22] <PriceChild> cypherdelic, that gives you a definitely bash shell.
[01:22] <Frogzoo> Notten: here's a driver for your modem - I can't see anything in the repos: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=47406&package_id=144429
[01:22] <PriceChild> !Upgrade | bicky
[01:22] <ubotu> bicky: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:22] <ikonia> steveb: then I best shut up ;)
[01:22] <hoth676> PriceChild: oh, so I do need 64-bit builds of libs, apps,... . Sounds like the old Power-Macs running old apps in emulator mode...
[01:22] <cypherdelic> cypherdelic@HaeckFleisch:~/kernelcompile/wifi/mac80211$ make patch kernel
[01:22] <cypherdelic> WARNING: $SHELL not set to bash.
[01:22] <cypherdelic> If you experience build errors, try 'make SHELL=/bin/bash'.
[01:22] <CheshireViking> !upgrade | bicky
[01:22] <Notten> Frogzoo http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21550/ heres the log
[01:22] <ikonia> cypherdelic: what are you trying to do
[01:22] <PriceChild> cypherdelic, have you tried doing as it suggested?
[01:22] <beni> All my linux icq clients dont work, is this problem experienced by someone else?
[01:22] <ikonia> beni: no
[01:22] <beni> login errors
[01:22] <ikonia> beni: that suggests a network error then
[01:22] <cjae> how do I tell "find" root path
[01:22] <cypherdelic> PriceChild: have seen it too the first time, trying it
[01:23] <traubisoda> i've tried everything
[01:23] <traubisoda> i just dunno how to reinstall or update it
[01:23] <PriceChild> cjae, could you rephrase the question please? Tell me what you're trying to do?
[01:23] <ikonia> cjae: as root echo $PATH
[01:23] <jakeg> hi all. i've added a bug to launchpad and was wondering if i'd done it all correctly, and if there was anything extra i could add to help people help me fix it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/115579
[01:23] <fierycleric> cjae: /
[01:23] <PriceChild> traubisoda, you don't just update it.... even if you did it wouldn't help things. all your configurations are stored in ~
[01:24] <ikonia> jakeg: seems reasonable
[01:24] <cjae> fierycleric, you seem to be reading my mind
[01:24] <cjae> wow I feel silly
[01:24] <traubisoda> okay than i must reinstall it right?
[01:24] <cjae> tired
[01:24] <jakeg> ikonia: thanks
[01:24] <cypherdelic> cypherdelic@HaeckFleisch:~/kernelcompile/wifi/mac80211$ make SHELL=/bin/bashKernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-lowlatency/source/'
[01:24] <fierycleric> cjae: just glade its not c:\ !!!
[01:24] <cypherdelic> PriceChild:
[01:24] <PriceChild> jakeg, make sure you're subscribed to the bug and respond to any triagers that try and help :)
[01:24] <jakeg> pricechild: okay, will do, ta
[01:25] <NoEvidenZ> How much space does an average ubuntu server install take?
[01:25] <cypherdelic> PriceChild: linux-headers-2.6.20-15-lowlatency are installed
[01:25] <ikonia> NoEvidenZ: just under 2 gig
[01:25] <cjae> fierycleric, my thoughts exactly ........ its coming slowly but surely this channel helps alot
[01:25] <PriceChild> you're recompiling a low latency as well?
[01:25] <cjae> big up to channel
[01:25] <cypherdelic> only the lowlatency
[01:25] <ikonia> cypherdelic: why ?
[01:25] <jakeg> pricechild: looks like it auto subscribesme
[01:25] <PriceChild> cypherdelic, I really think you should at least read the documentation first please.
[01:26] <PriceChild> jakeg, coolious
[01:26] <cypherdelic> uhm
[01:26] <PriceChild> *coolios
[01:26] <Notten> Frogzoo how do i install the drivers?
[01:26] <NoEvidenZ> ikonia: Doesn't the desktop install take up about the same?
[01:26] <cypherdelic> rtfm-yourself bstd
[01:26] <ikonia> NoEvidenZ: yeah, roughly
[01:26] <tom__> Hey everyone - trying to install Automatrix but i am getting the error "E: Unable to lock the download directory
[01:26] <tom__> " - Any ideas?
[01:26] <scoobydoo28139> ikonia: its real teck on board audio
[01:26] <fierycleric> jakeg: its a hack but you could try using vbetool in the suspend wake up script
[01:26] <PriceChild> cypherdelic, please calm down
[01:26] <NoEvidenZ> ikonia: So what advantages are there of the server?
[01:26] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: try disabling it in your bios
[01:26] <jungli> need help with iptables....any one?
[01:27] <CheshireViking> !automatix | tom__
[01:27] <ubotu> tom__: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:27] <ikonia> NoEvidenZ: there is no advantages, they are different products aimes at different use
[01:27] <Frogzoo> Notten: unpack them, there'll be a README
[01:27] <mIgUeL_sAn> how do i uninstall the openssh?
[01:27] <Pinchiukas> I've done everything that http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BerylOnFeisty says and it doesn't work :)
[01:27] <jakeg> fieryclaric: i haven't tried that because on the page linked to it says for an Acer TM C110 video_post is 'known' to work
[01:27] <cjae> fierycleric, it sad cause I have read a whole book on linux administration and the slackware essentials but have poor memory
[01:27] <PriceChild> cypherdelic, You have admitted yourself that you don't really know what you're doing. I don't have the knowledge either. The best place for you to start is with the wiki docs... they'r enot that big
[01:27] <mIgUeL_sAn> i'm having a trouble with my ssh
[01:27] <cypherdelic> mIgUeL_sAn: sudo apt-get emove openssh
[01:27] <jungli> can some one please help me ban websites using iptables?
 Thanks!!
[01:27] <jakeg> i'll give it a shot though... only every time i do and it doesn't work, i need to reboot and get back to my workspace
[01:27] <cypherdelic> PriceChild: i recompiled kernels before
[01:27] <ikonia> jungli: join #netfilter or #iptables
[01:27] <ikonia> cypherdelic: so whats the problem ?
[01:27] <fierycleric> cjae: um, look at man man ... get used to using manpages .... it you want to know all the commands
[01:28] <traubisoda> so can anyone tell me how to replace firefox?
[01:28] <jungli> can some one please help me ban websites using iptables?
[01:28] <scoobydoo28139> ikonia: then i won't ever have sound
[01:28] <cypherdelic> some sources are missing, i asked which, you just respond RTFM NOOB, stfu
[01:28] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: you sound you installed an additional sounce card
[01:28] <ikonia> sound card
[01:28] <cypherdelic> some sources are missing, i asked which, you just respond RTFM NOOB, stfu
[01:28] <cjae> mind =/>sieve
[01:28] <akaihola> Is there a tool for merging kernel .config files? I'd like to merge vanilla <IP_ADDRESS>, feisty <IP_ADDRESS> and dapper 2.6.15 configurations in order to build a vanilla <IP_ADDRESS> + Linux-VServer kernel for Dapper.
[01:28] <cypherdelic> so i DONT ask you again
[01:28] <ikonia> !ops
[01:28] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[01:28] <bicky> upgrading from the life CD is impossible isn't it ?
[01:28] <jungli> i want to ban youtube...what is the comman i write in terminal?
[01:28] <jrib> traubisoda: install your own browser and set it as default in system -> preferences -> preferred applications
[01:28] <ikonia> cypherdelic: I never said RTFM
[01:28] <PriceChild> ikonia, he's talking about me
[01:29] <ikonia> fed up with stuff like "wft" and "rtfm"
[01:29] <scoobydoo28139> ikonia: first i had a sound blaster live card, now i am using onboard audio
[01:29] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: ok
[01:29] <mIgUeL_sAn> cypherdelic: it says that invalid operation
[01:29] <Seveas> PriceChild, noob ;)
[01:30] <cypherdelic> whatever lets stop teasing i go for it myself now, peace
[01:30] <jungli> i want to ban youtube...what is the comman i write in terminal?
[01:30] <ikonia> "peave"
[01:30] <ikonia> "peace" even
[01:30] <mIgUeL_sAn> anyone pls... how do i uninstall the openssh??
[01:30] <scoobydoo28139> ikonia: when i look at properties it recognizes it.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:30] <scoobydoo28139> *preferences
[01:30] <digital_k> ban youtube? but whyyyyyyyyy?
[01:30] <digital_k> :/
[01:30] <fierycleric> jungli: dont we all
[01:31] <traubisoda> firefox totally crashed
[01:31] <ikonia> jungli: join #netfilter or #iptables
[01:31] <badger__> I would like to record music from radio streams in Ubuntu is this possible?
[01:31] <akaihola> migUeL_sAn: or even: sudo aptitude purge openssh-server
[01:31] <digital_k> i cant get to gnome-look.org this morning, it seems to be down.
[01:31] <jrib> badger__: if mplayer can play it, you can use mplayer -dumpstream
[01:31] <PriceChild> jungli, remember you can't easily block sites... there's a million and one ways to proxy
[01:31] <jungli> employee watch it at work,,,,boss wants it banned
[01:31] <hypn0> fierycleric: not me, my only source of free music :-))
[01:31] <HostilePenguin> or even apt-get --purge remove
[01:31] <digital_k> jungli do you guys have a router there? you can ban it easily within the router
[01:32] <mIgUeL_sAn> thanks akaihola
[01:32] <mIgUeL_sAn> thanks ikonia
[01:32] <ikonia> no problem
[01:32] <fierycleric> jungli: sudo echo "<IP_ADDRESS>  youtube.com" >> /etc/hosts .... dont know if redirection works with sudo
[01:32] <jungli> pricechild...how can we do it using iptables?
[01:32] <Frogzoo> jungli: sudo iptables -A INPUT -s pr0n.com -j DROP
[01:32] <ikonia> jungli: join #netfilter or #iptables
[01:32] <jungli> ta firey
[01:32] <fierycleric> jungli: but use iptables ... thats a hack
[01:32] <cypherdelic> readinjungli: you cant easily get around blocking sites ;)
[01:32] <cypherdelic> jungli: you cant easily get around blocking sites ;)
[01:32] <Braden_> sup ppl
[01:33] <jinroh_> test
[01:33] <ikonia> cypherdelic: he doesn't want to get around it, he wants to block it
[01:33] <fierycleric> hypn0: joking its good
[01:33] <HostilePenguin> i block site with my router
[01:33] <jinroh_> what IRC client do you use in ubuntu?
[01:33] <cjae> man find = headache
[01:33] <jungli> i want to block youtube....not get around it
[01:33] <digital_k> i use xchat jinroh
[01:33] <HostilePenguin> gnome xchat
[01:33] <cypherdelic> ikonia: but he cant block, couse its easy getting around
[01:33] <jinroh_> xchat-gnome or xchat normal
[01:33] <ikonia> cypherdelic: of course he can block it
[01:33] <digital_k> i use xchat normal
[01:33] <cypherdelic> ikonia: of course he can block noobs
[01:34] <ikonia> cypherdelic: ?
[01:34] <ikonia> cypherdelic: did you just repeat me ?
[01:34] <jungli> ikonia what do i type in console...pls help?
[01:34] <nafis_devlpr> hey anyone know how to rescue grub after reinstalling windows??
[01:34] <ikonia> jungli: someone has given you an example, and I've told you the correct source place 3 times
[01:34] <mete> usb devices have to be unplugged at boot??? when boot with plugged USB devices, my USB host controller halted... till next restart without any devices plugged in
[01:34] <igmyzt> hey guys i have a quick question
[01:34] <jungli> sorry i missed it...pls type again
[01:34] <mete> uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: host system error, PCI problems?
[01:34] <mc44> !grub | nafis_devlpr
[01:34] <ubotu> nafis_devlpr: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:34] <ikonia> nafis_devlpr: boot from the ubuntu cd and reinstall it ubotu will send you a link in a minute
[01:34] <mete> uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: host controller halted, very bad!
[01:35] <jungli> i tries sudo - i command but i can still access youtub
[01:35] <ikonia> !grub >nagis_devlpr
[01:35] <cypherdelic> ikonia: i can set up a openssh on port 80 on a home mashine connected via tor through the internet and connect it through any firewall or ken proxy
[01:35] <mete> uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: HC died; cleaning up
[01:35] <Rich_li_ny> Where do I find the path and and start parameters for a program.  Using Xubuntu 6.10 and need path and parameters for java Runtime Enviroment so that OpenOffice Writer will work properly.  Please help me.
[01:35] <Slart> if his boss want him to block youtube he'll just block the regular way to get it and the boss will be happy... you can't be 100% effective when blocking.. but often 95% if good enough
[01:35] <digital_k> igmyzt:just ask :)
[01:35] <ikonia> cypherdelic: thats in your personal environment, so not relevent to his question
[01:35] <cypherdelic> ikonia: blocking http doesnt make sense to most networks
[01:35] <jungli> ikonia i tries sudo iptables -I  command but it didnt block you tube
[01:35] <scoobydoo28139> ikonia: i am testing audio pipeline, but the bar hasn't moved
[01:36] <ikonia> cypherdelic: he's not blocking http: he's blocking a source site's ip
[01:36] <ikonia> jungli: join #netfilter or #iptables
[01:36] <jungli> thanks
[01:36] <digital_k> cypherdelic:blocking sites that keeps people from doing their job does make sense. :)
[01:36] <igmyzt> when i installed ubuntu, it never works with my radeon at first because it recognizes my intel integrated, so i turned the autodetect off and set it to only integrated, and now i want it on my radeon/big monitor, but the reconfigure thing puts it on the wrong refresh rate thing by deafult...
[01:36] <ikonia> jungli: you shouldn't be administrating a firewall for a business with that awareness of the tools
[01:36] <jungli> i am a windows man...hardly ever use linux...linux admin just left
[01:36] <fierycleric> lashed
[01:36] <Slart> jungli: you'll have to dom som studying of iptables and netfilter before you can do this.. or ask the people in #netfilter or #iptables
[01:36] <saadi> hello
[01:36] <saadi> i need a little help
[01:36] <cypherdelic> ikonia: but a user in his network who wants to connect that site, even if a working iptable rule is defined, can easily get around this by connecting through an ssh proxy
[01:37] <saadi> installing the matlab in my ubuntu feisty
[01:37] <dedO> hello
[01:37] <cypherdelic> so its effortless
[01:37] <fierycleric> jungli: so you want to block all traffic to youtub.com ?
[01:37] <ikonia> cypherdelic: I'm not going to debate theory with you, but blocking all external ports apart from 80 would work fine
[01:37] <scoobydoo28139> ikonia: is there a way to sort of uninstall? maybe then reinstall
[01:37] <Frogzoo> jungli: sudo iptables -A INPUT -s pr0n.com -j DROP
[01:37] <saadi> i cannot find MLM.opt
[01:37] <Slart> jungli: the answer to your question depends on where you want to do the blocking.. if you have got routers or if you want to block it at the clients etc etc.. there isn't an easy answer that will always work for this
[01:37] <digital_k> igmyzt: so i m clear, you have a machine with intel integrated graphics that also has an installed radeon card?
[01:37] <saadi> does anybody around here use matlab?
[01:37] <cypherdelic> ikonia: thats why my ssh-server listens on port 80 :D
[01:37] <ycmarvin> my panel has changed...the icons including the dropdown Applications..Places..System are on the right..how do I configure this one
[01:37] <alexicon> hello. i was wondering if anyone had any issues with feisty/nvidia twinview. sometimes windows open to full vert/horz width, have to be maximised then unmaximised to unlock its full vert/horz length
[01:38] <Frogzoo> saadi: apt-cache search matlab
[01:38] <igmyzt> digital_k: correct, and im using the intel, and want to use the radeon
[01:38] <cypherdelic> ikonia: faking webserver
[01:38] <ikonia> cypherdelic: I don't care
[01:38] <cypherdelic> if i wa sin your business
[01:38] <digital_k> igmyzt: you should go into the BIOS and disable the onboard video I believe
[01:38] <alexicon> its weird, i cant adjust one axis of the window size until i max/unmax it
[01:38] <cypherdelic> maybe you do
[01:38] <ikonia> cypherdelic: the average business user will not go to that legnth
[01:38] <saadi> thnx Frogzoo
[01:38] <igmyzt> digital_k: last time i tried the reconfigure, the monitor loaded and only said Incorrect Frequency
[01:38] <cypherdelic> ikonia: so i will never get a job, anywhere?
[01:38] <ikonia> cypherdelic: I run my own systems different to the person who asked the question, so it is not relevant
[01:39] <scoobydoo28139> ubotu: command
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about command - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <ikonia> cypherdelic: you know nothing about me or my employment and thats not important
[01:39] <igmyzt> digital_k: my bios doesn't allow me to disable it, but that's not what i need to do. i need instructions on how to set the refresh rate /hz right
[01:39] <cypherdelic> ikonia: it was only hypthetical
[01:39] <digital_k> sorry, you need to edit the xorg configuration
[01:39] <digital_k> i misunderstood you
[01:39] <ikonia> so pointless
[01:39] <budgieboy> I feel sick :()
[01:39] <scoobydoo28139> ubotu: help
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[01:40] <ProN00b> is there any browser thats more light than firefox ?
[01:40] <ikonia> ProN00b: lynx ?
[01:40] <mete> usb devices have to be unplugged at boot??? when boot with plugged USB devices, my USB host controller halted... till next restart without any devices plugged in
[01:40] <digital_k> ProN00b:i use epiphany
[01:40] <ycmarvin> please help me with my panel prob..I dunno why it looks like right aligned
[01:40] <digital_k> its very fast and light
[01:40] <akaihola> ProN00b: dillo?
[01:40] <budgieboy> dildo?
[01:40] <budgieboy> oh dillo
[01:40] <budgieboy> sorry :(
[01:41] <akaihola> budgieboy: Freudian...
[01:41] <igmyzt> digital_k: i thought it would be 75 hz, but my friend said it should be 70....do you know? its a starlogic 19" on a radeon 9250
[01:41] <scoobydoo28139> pronoob: there is lighter browser, I think it is called opera
[01:41] <budgieboy> all these whacky Linux name eh :P
[01:41] <ProN00b> heh, dillo and lynx are too lightweight
[01:41] <cypherdelic> duing school, i call the director and social engineer him to ask our current teacher for an important meeting, i called through KEN proxy only allowing port 80 with filtering
[01:41] <digital_k> igmyzt:have you tried the restricted drivers manager? it should install the right driver and set everything right.
[01:41] <ProN00b> epiphany, hmm thats strange
[01:41] <ikonia> !offtopic > cypherdelic
[01:41] <Rich_li_ny> Opera is great for older machines.
[01:41] <digital_k> ProN00b: lol why?
[01:42] <digital_k> its a great browser
[01:42] <Rich_li_ny> Opera takes a while to get used to though but once its tweaked to your taste you will like it.
[01:42] <igmyzt> digital_k: restricted being the junky ones off ati.com?
[01:42] <ProN00b> digital_k, dunno, i don't think its the right thing for the gnome project to make its own browser
[01:42] <mete> Opera so handy lol
[01:42] <saadi> Frogzoo: nothing happened. i just typed in the terminal apt-cache search matlab'
[01:42] <digital_k> igmyzt: go to system>amdinistration>restricted drivers manager
[01:43] <scoobydoo28139> I think Opera is known for being a small file size and a very light browser
[01:43] <Frogzoo> saadi: you should find scilab
[01:43] <digital_k> ProN00b: why? Fx is open source and Epiphany is built from the same code.
[01:43] <digital_k> its gecko based.
[01:43] <fierycleric> ProN00b: having more than one project is what OSS is all about....
[01:43] <mIgUeL_sAn> i've already installed a new openshh........... should i configure it again?
[01:43] <igmyzt> digital_k: it said my hardware doesnt need them...but that's probly because my radeon is disabled from bios
[01:43] <ikonia> mIgUeL_sAn: if you want to use it, yes
[01:43] <ProN00b> digital_k, fx ?
[01:44] <FOAD> When I start my musicplayer (quodlibet) I get "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:831:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to create IPC semaphore" (but sound still works). However when I try to start something else that uses sound (mplayer) when quodlibet is started, it hangs at the start.  Help?
[01:44] <Rich_li_ny> << using Opera now..  I love Firefox but on this XP box and even most of my Xbuntu boxes..  all have Opera now.
[01:44] <igmyzt> digital_k: if i enable it, ubuntu will try to load off it and give me a blue x.org/xserver error for no visual input
[01:44] <digital_k> Well you cant use it igmyzt, if its disabled.
[01:44] <scoobydoo28139> I still need help with my sound issue: can I uninstall some how in ubuntu?
[01:44] <Rich_li_ny> If I had lots of ram.. I would prefer FF though.
[01:44] <digital_k> Fx=firefox
[01:44] <fierycleric> ProN00b: how about telnet port 80 .... thats light :)
[01:44] <Slart> scoobydoo28139: what sound issue?
[01:44] <saadi> ok
[01:44] <igmyzt> digital_k: ill enable when i know what i need to do, then reboot and do alt+f1, and reconfigure x.org
[01:44] <ProN00b> scoobydoo28139, apt-get remove package
[01:44] <saadi> thnx
[01:44] <ProN00b> fierycleric, heh, nah, i'd rather use dillo then
[01:44] <saadi> anywayz, i'd like to say BERYL ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[01:44] <Frogzoo> fierycleric: links2 for ascii browsing
[01:44] <saadi> :- )
[01:45] <cholera> I have an external hdd that was intially formatted as ntfs and mounted as ntfd-3g. I have since backed up all data and would like to mount as ext3, I'm not very confident in this matter because, dealing with drives and data leaves no room for error, can anyone help
[01:45] <scoobydoo28139> proNOOb: oh ya! duh me:)
[01:45] <igmyzt> saadi: vid card?
[01:45] <cholera> *ntfs-3g
[01:45] <cjae> find / -name "myfile" -type f -print           what is wrong with this
[01:45] <saadi> NVidia
[01:45] <ProN00b> uuh, i am still using fat32 for data exchange with windows ? is there anything better ?
[01:45] <igmyzt> saadi: model?
[01:45] <saadi> it didnt giv me any problem
[01:46] <saadi> GeForce2 MX/MX400
[01:46] <Slart> ProN00b: nope.. windows is a bit behind when it comes to file systems
[01:46] <ProN00b> or can i somehow hack fat32 to make bigger files than 2gb ?
[01:46] <saadi> C ya all. bye for now
[01:46] <igmyzt> digital_k: still there?
[01:46] <cjae> find / -name "myfile" -type f -print           what is wrong with this fierycleric
[01:47] <fierycleric> ProN00b: if your "clusters are big enough" it will do bigger than 2g right :)
[01:47] <mjr> fat32 does support files up to 4GB-byte, but I don't think the Linux driver does... Thus, you could hack the driver, yes ;]
[01:47] <cjae> fierycleric, I surely don't have to run find as root do I
[01:47] <ProN00b> fierycleric, how do i fix cluster size ?
[01:48] <Frogzoo> cjae: just use locate, it's faster
[01:48] <fierycleric> ProN00b: joke... yeah i dont know....
[01:48] <digital_k> igmyzt:yes, Im here, sorry.
[01:48] <ProN00b> fierycleric, i'd think cluster size is already at its max so it can allow 2gb files
[01:48] <cjae> Frogzoo, it did but it takes long to update
[01:48] <igmyzt> digital_k: can you suggest anything?
[01:48] <scoobydoo28139> slart: I want to remove my sound and then re-install it how?
[01:48] <fierycleric> cjae: are you trying to find a file ... but you have no idea where it is?
[01:48] <cholera> what is a safe way to format and mount an external hdd
[01:49] <cjae> fierycleric, yes
[01:49] <fierycleric> cjae: try using locate <filename>
[01:49] <digital_k> igmyzt: you say you want to use the radeon, however you cannot do that with it disabled in BIOS.
[01:49] <k1gwb> more of a gnome question than ubuntu but is any way to make the 'window list' buttons only change size when the list is full?  as opposed to 'whever they decide thetime is right?'
[01:49] <digital_k> you cant configure it then enable it.
[01:49] <fierycleric> cjae: using find ... find / -name 'myfilename'
[01:49] <eifzon> What can be wrong my mic? i can hear my friend in skype but he cant hear me, i have unmuted all mic things in alsamixer
[01:49] <igmyzt> digital_k: yes, i know this. I can't enable it until i know how to install the drivers by reconfiguring x.org
[01:50] <igmyzt> digital_k: im having a problem with the refresh rate
[01:50] <digital_k> what is the exact kind of radeon?
[01:50] <digital_k> is it an X model?
[01:50] <igmyzt> 9250
[01:50] <Slart> scoobydoo28139: hmm... if you remove sound support I think you have to remove a lot of software depending on it aswell.. why do you want to reinstall? having problems?
[01:50] <igmyzt> old
[01:50] <cjae> fierycleric, thanks I don't have to run it as root just to READ files but I keep getting permission denied
[01:50] <cjae> fierycleric, find that is
[01:50] <leninIdebian> loa
[01:51] <digital_k> igmyzt: here is a thread at ubuntuforums you may be interested in: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=418252
[01:51] <fierycleric> cjae: yeah its coz it can read the directories .... coz they are owned by root .... run it with sudo .... sudo find / -name 'myfilename'
[01:52] <nafis_devlpr> does anyone knows how to install my old avermedia tvcard on ubuntu??
[01:52] <Pepel81> salut tout le monde !
[01:52] <Pepel81> hello everybody
[01:52] <beakmann> hey mates! anyone can send me his /etc/DIR_COLORS or ~/.dir_colors?
[01:52] <digital_k> igmytz: also see this page https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/5281
[01:52] <digital_k> I hope that helps :)
[01:53] <jrib> beakmann: run 'dircolors', the command
[01:53] <igmyzt> digital_k: im looking more for monitor help
[01:53] <LjL> salut pepel81, si cherches aide en franais tu peux joiner #ubuntu-fr
[01:53] <beakmann> that is the content of the file jrib?
[01:53] <fierycleric> beakmann: type dircolors to get the default i think
[01:53] <digital_k> well thats all the information i have, maybe someone else with more knowledge can be of assistance. :)
[01:53] <beakmann> thanks!
[01:53] <cjae> fierycleric, /etc/fstab is owned by root but thunar can read it but not write so why can't find read
[01:53] <igmyzt> digital_k: when you reconfigure x.org it asks for the monitor model, and it considers this monitor to be generic, and i dont know the refresh rate to use it
[01:53] <jrib> beakmann: neither of those files exist by default
[01:54] <Pepel81> LjL ca marche pas quand je veux #ubuntu-fr
[01:54] <fierycleric> cjae: find looks are directories not files....
[01:54] <Frogzoo> fierycleric: not so
[01:54] <fierycleric> ok in most cases
[01:54] <Frogzoo> fierycleric: find . -name blah
[01:55] <scoobydoo28139> slart: yes no sound
[01:55] <jrib> beakmann: if you take a look at the default ~/.bashrc, it calls:  dircolors -b
[01:55] <sluimers> hey Frogzoo
[01:55] <beakmann> yes, I looked that
[01:55] <sluimers> Frogzoo, can you still help me?
[01:55] <beakmann> but.. I don't know exactly hoy it works jrib
[01:55] <nafis_devlpr> another q that someone asked before, I missed that
[01:56] <jrib> beakmann: the output of 'dircolors' is bash commands that bash can execute, that's what your .bashrc is doing
[01:56] <Slart> scoobydoo28139: have you tried fixing the sound problem? might be easier than reinstalling
[01:56] <Frogzoo> sluimers: what's your problem?
[01:56] <nafis_devlpr> I am migrating from WINXP and using Visual C++ for editing, what should be replacement of VC++ in ubuntu??
[01:56] <kristjan_> !open office
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[01:56] <kristjan_> !open_office
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[01:56] <kristjan_> !office
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[01:57] <Slart> !openoffice
[01:57] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[01:57] <jrib> !openoffice > kristjan_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:57] <fierycleric> !koffice
[01:57] <sluimers> Frogzoo, I still can't find my CD-R remember?
[01:57] <ubotu> Integrated office suite for KDE, including word processing, spreadsheet, flow charting, image manipulation. For more info see: http://koffice.kde.org. Upgraded Kubuntu packs at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-16.php (for Dapper) and http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-162.php (for Edgy)
[01:57] <mon^rch> when I install a non-generic kernel, x stops working... why? and how do I fix it?
[01:57] <fierycleric> !info abiword
[01:57] <ubotu> abiword: WYSIWYG word processor based on GTK2. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.6-1.1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2572 kB, installed size 7004 kB
[01:57] <sluimers> Frogzoo, stgill can't burn
[01:57] <cjae> fierycleric, how come when I pipe it through less it freezes
[01:57] <beakmann> yes jrib, but, when I open a gnome-terminal, ask me for this file /etc/DIR_COLORS, I create it, but ls still without colors
[01:57] <kairu0> i have connected an LCD to my laptop and it is working, although the display is TOO BIG for the monitor. it flows off the edges. how can i fix this?
[01:58] <Frogzoo> sluimers: did you configure the CDR in k3b ?
[01:58] <sluimers> Frogzoo, last thing you asked me is to go to the settings in K3b and add a device
[01:58] <Slart> nafis_devlpr: don't think there is a ide of the same caliber for linux... you might check out eclipse... others may have other suggestions
[01:58] <jrib> beakmann: strange... what shell are you using?  or do you know what exactly is asking you for that and why?
[01:58] <sluimers> Frogzoo, I can't add it
[01:58] <fierycleric> cjae: what do you mean it freezes?
[01:58] <sluimers> Frogzoo, I treid adding /dev/cdrom/ but to no avail
[01:59] <cjae> stops return or any key doesn't make it continue
[01:59] <nafis_devlpr> hmm
[01:59] <hydan> does apt have a pretend installation call like emerge?
[01:59] <fierycleric> cjae: that means its finished?
[01:59] <jrib> hydan: -s
[01:59] <Slart> nafis_devlpr: compilers and such are available.. it's just the IDE part that's hard to find
[01:59] <hydan> sweet
[01:59] <beakmann> I'm using gnome-terminal, and did an upgrade from gentoo, I think that I need /etc/DIR_COLORS file, you have it? can you paste me the content?
[01:59] <cjae> no command prompt fierycleric
[01:59] <mon^rch> kairu0: try ctrl-alt +/-
[01:59] <chrisjs169> I just popped in an Intel Ethernet Pro 100 NIC, and it's not working
[01:59] <cjae> have to crt c??
[01:59] <Frogzoo> sluimers: try adding the device, not the symlink
[01:59] <Frogzoo> sluimers: /dev/sd#