[02:42] <margaritamike> what's the easiest way to get emacs26 on ubuntu
 I have just now upgraded from Lubuntu 1810 to Lubuntu 1904 (development branch). Everything went well, everything perfect, without the slightest mistake.
 I had done some tweaks on former Lubuntu 1810 (modified the sddm login wallpaper, changed the setxkbmap to pt, introduced a login user image, changed the menu image, etc) and all remained, without having lost any of these tweaks.
 Fwd from Lubuntu Announcements: https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial/status/1086717478477185025


[00:03] <Unit193> (See? Maybe right channel this time!)  With the thought of changing double click speed, it's generally the less computer savvy that need it slower, so the people that like it faster would be more likely to know or be able to figure out how to change it.  Just a thought.
[00:05] <knome> probably, and i'm not sure if setting it to 350ms would actually annoy anybody
[00:05] <knome> i mean, if you do it quicker, then it just happens quicker
[00:06] <Unit193> But, yes, if it is basically 10-20 users that want it, I'm not saying change it anyway.
[00:07] <knome> a hasty decision is what i want to avoid
[00:07] <knome> this is something we can set in the last weeks of the cycle - that's in october!!
[00:08] <knome> (well naturally it's better if it's in earlier, but theoretically)
[00:15] <knome> i'm off to bed. see you tomorrow
[00:16] <Unit193> Adios.
[10:54] <ochosi> ahoi everyone
[10:57] <knome> hello ochosi
[10:57] <ochosi> hey pasi :)
[10:57] <ochosi> took me a bit to read all the backlog now
[10:57] <knome> heh
[10:59] <ochosi> anyhoo, how's the upcoming time for you? busy or some free time?
[11:03] <knome> should be some time, though should be some busy time too
[11:05] <ochosi> mhm
[11:05] <ochosi> so as always then :)
[11:05] <ochosi> btw, i put a screener of blackbird on deviantart, got pretty nice feedback so far
[11:06] <knome> yeah, as always..
[11:07] <knome> i don't plan to change this, i do like having free time for whatever i like :D
[11:07] <ochosi> i'm wondering whether we should take some specific time to sit down for albatross
[11:07] <astraljava> Time is always free. What you do with it changes. *smirk*
[11:08] <knome> ochosi, yeah, that sounds like a plan
[11:08] <ochosi> ohhh, all the wiseness...
[11:08] <knome> astraljava, HOW much beer did you have yesterday again?
[11:09] <astraljava> Not that much, considering it was free as well. Free as in free beer. *smirk*
[11:09] <knome> heh
[11:09] <knome> hangover or not?
[11:09] <astraljava> Nah, I'm a pro.
[11:10]  * knome whispers in loud voice: ALCOHOLIC!
[11:10] <astraljava> But once I thought I was getting a plain Olvi can, but it was actually orange soda in a very similar printing. I noticed only when I was pouring it into a glass.
[11:10] <knome> awwwwh :D
[11:10] <astraljava> I was so disappointed.
[11:10] <knome> hehe
[11:11] <knome> i'm sure you were
[11:11] <astraljava> But I have a principal to drink whatever I poured into my glass.
[11:11] <astraljava> So I fought it, and won.
[11:11] <knome> and the other were relieved..?
[11:11] <knome> i can't drink anything, not if it's artificially colored yellow
[11:11] <knome> *everything
[11:11] <astraljava> Oh yeah.
[11:11] <knome> btw, i didn't have any beer yesterday ^
[11:12] <astraljava> You couldn't have. It was _very_ yellow.
[11:12] <knome> yeah, ugh
[11:12] <knome> i would've needed to give it to you and take a beer instead
[11:14] <astraljava> Or do as one guest did. Took a 'lonkero', didn't like it, so poured directly into the sink.
[11:14] <knome> heh.
[11:14] <astraljava> Ok, I need to go and catch the train. Later.
[11:15] <knome> a gin i could just pour down to my throat.
[11:15] <knome> see you!
[11:15] <knome> ochosi, we should sit down and add all the work items to blueprints
[11:20] <knome> mr_pouit, i think the real reason why xubuntu doesn't show up in status.u.c yet is that none of the actual blueprints are approved for Q yet, thus there is no work items to show
[11:25] <ochosi> knome: yeah, we should
[11:25] <ochosi> probably should combine that with something that is more fun :p
[11:26] <ochosi> gah, samba sucks big time. somehow i get permission errors every other time (with the same command though)
[11:27] <ochosi> knome: btw, could you look into testing maya? it's a rather nice calendar app
[11:28] <knome> samba.... yeah
[11:28] <knome> was there something else i should test?
[11:28] <knome> i could do them both now
[11:28] <knome> is maya in the repos?
[11:29] <knome> really hard to find that app for "some" reason...
[11:30] <ochosi> maya is in a ppa
[11:30] <ochosi> it also has google-cal sync support
[11:30] <knome> interesting
[11:30] <ochosi> but i guess i forgot to install something for that to work
[11:30] <knome> (if it works
[11:30] <knome> )
[11:30] <knome> so where's the ppa
[11:31] <ochosi> this is what it looks like: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05262012-013119pm.php
[11:31] <ochosi> one sec
[11:31] <knome> mhm, nice and clean
[11:33] <ochosi> meh
[11:33] <ochosi> it doesn't seem to work that well
[11:33] <ochosi> now that i'm testing it for real :)
[11:33] <ochosi> i guess the clean UI blinded me
[11:33] <knome> heh
[11:33] <knome> right
[11:34] <ochosi> oh wait
[11:34] <ochosi> it does work
[11:34] <ochosi> it just has personal events hidden by default it seems
[11:34] <knome> heh, ok, so where's the ppa?
[11:34] <knome> :P
[11:35] <ochosi> this one: http://ppa.launchpad.net/elementary-os/daily/ubuntu
[11:37] <ochosi> pleia2: heyo! saw the fabulous stickers on g+. do you sell/ship them as well?
[11:37] <knome> ochosi, just buy your own at moo.com :)
[11:38] <knome> ochosi, or beg her to ship a few for free
[11:38] <knome> what normal people do / what knome does
[11:38] <ochosi> nah, i just want at least one ubuntu-women sticker for my flatmate
[11:38] <ochosi> and maybe a xubuntu-sticker for me, but i'm not sure
[11:38] <ochosi> i'm not 100% the sticker guy
[11:38] <knome> hehe
[11:41] <knome> ochosi, i can't run maya, it fails on boot
[11:41] <ochosi> on boot?
[11:41] <knome> when i try to run it
[11:41] <knome> apparently, it needs some evolution stuff
[11:41] <knome> [WARN 14:40:42.519693] [libecal] e_cal_client_new: Cannot get calendar from factory: The name org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Calendar1 was not provided by any .service files
[11:41] <ochosi> yes
[11:41] <ochosi> evolution-dataserver is a backend-only
[11:41] <knome> well i don't want that! :P
[11:41] <ochosi> they use that for syncing with google-ca
[11:41] <ochosi> l
[11:42] <knome> what's the pkgname?
[11:42] <knome> aha, -data-server
[11:42] <ochosi> i think evolution-data-server
[11:42] <knome> 12 megs :/
[11:42] <knome> quite lot for a calendar
[11:42] <ochosi> agreed
[11:43] <knome> ehm
[11:43] <knome> pressing the 'select calendars to display' halts maya for a while
[11:43] <knome> also, where do i control which google calendars are synced?
[11:44] <ochosi> haven't found that either :p
[11:44] <ochosi> it's not a very smooth experience
[11:44] <ochosi> i'll ask around in #elementary-dev whether they have any plans for this calendar
[11:44] <knome> ok, purging
[11:44] <ochosi> i mean if they get it to work then it could be a nice addition
[11:44] <knome> yeah.
[11:44] <ochosi> but otoh you're right, 12mb is too much
[11:44] <knome> yeah.
[11:44] <knome> and that's just for the e-d-s
[11:45] <knome> bbl, cooking some food with wife ->
[11:45] <ochosi> ba and hf
[12:04] <pleia2> ochosi: just email me your address, I'll send stickers (madnick, you too)
[12:05] <pleia2> knome: I'll send some to the address I have for you :)
[12:09] <knome> pleia2, sounds good! thanks!
[12:10] <knome> most cooking done, waiting for the food to be ready to eat
[12:10]  * pleia2 just finished eating an egg sandwich in the airport
[12:11] <knome> heh, congrats
[12:11] <knome> if it had been bacon and eggs -sandwich, yummy
[12:11] <knome> or bacon and chicken
[12:11] <knome> oh mi lord
[12:11] <pleia2> I don't eat pork, so choices are limited
[12:12] <pleia2> especially for breakfast
[12:12] <knome> hmmh
[12:12] <knome> right
[12:12] <knome> but bacon is... bacon!
[12:12] <pleia2> pepperoni is the troublesome one :) I can live without bacon
[12:12] <knome> weird
[12:15] <knome> to buy or not to buy another ps3 game
[12:15] <knome> (i just let go of one, so...)
[12:32] <knome> oopsii! ordered one more! :)
[12:32] <pleia2> hehe
[12:32] <knome> but it was only 24 pounds!
[12:32] <astraljava> Bacon is very much different from pork.
[12:32] <astraljava> It's practically its own species.
[12:33] <knome> astraljava, yeah, almost.
[12:33] <astraljava> Or it might be growing in tress.
[12:33] <astraljava> trees even.
[12:33] <knome> i know many vegetarians who eat bacon
[12:33] <knome> go figure.
[12:33] <astraljava> Like yesterday it was revealed to us that Volvos grow in trees in northern Sweden.
[12:33] <astraljava> The factories are a sham.
[12:33] <pleia2> I knew it
[12:34] <knome> at what point, before or after 1 permille?
[12:34] <astraljava> How would I know?!
[12:34] <astraljava> The host also had bought a scooter during one of those evenings.
[12:35] <astraljava> So...
[12:35]  * pleia2 boards airplane
[12:35] <knome> pleia2, hf! :)
[12:35] <astraljava> Oh? Where you up to?
[12:35] <knome> astraljava, ouch.
[12:38] <astraljava> I have good friends.
[12:38] <knome> err.
[12:38] <knome> let's start with this jussi...
[12:38] <knome> in which way is he "good" ?
[12:38] <knome> or do you mean apart from him?
[12:39] <astraljava> Yes. :)
[12:39] <knome> ah, in that case...
[12:39] <astraljava> No, I failed in setting the alarm this morning.
[12:39] <knome> :D
[12:39] <knome> you were late?
[12:39] <astraljava> I had my iPhone alarm on weekdays only.
[12:39] <astraljava> Yeah.
[12:39] <knome> ouch,
[12:39] <astraljava> So I didn't pack everything.
[12:39] <knome> consequences?
[12:39] <astraljava> I noticed while leaving the offices that I forgot headphones.
[12:40] <knome> hrm
[12:40] <astraljava> I called one friend, knowing he lives usually close to downtown.
[12:40] <astraljava> I asked him to bring me a set to the railway station.
[12:40] <astraljava> It worked!
[12:40] <astraljava> :)
[12:40] <knome> you mean he's a pilgrim, living under bridges and usually close to downtown
[12:40] <knome> ?
[12:41] <knome> anyway, i'm off to eat
[12:41] <knome> be back after that
[12:42] <astraljava> Yeah, he's got piles of high quality audio gear with him. :)
[12:42] <astraljava> I'd love to find his stashes.
[12:44]  * astraljava is about to unleash the semi-regular complaint about mobile broadband.
[12:57] <knome> hrmm
[13:43] <mr_pouit> o hai
[13:43] <mr_pouit> ochosi: I added xfce4-volumed-pulse to my ppa if you're interested in an up-to-date package
[14:02] <GridCube> so, knome https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Quantal/DefaultMediaPlayer#preview
[14:22] <baizon> i like the design of nightingale
[14:22] <baizon> GridCube: did you used that player?
[14:24] <GridCube> i cant make it work
[14:24] <GridCube> it crashes
[14:24] <GridCube> i added it to the list though
[14:25] <baizon> a ok
[14:25] <GridCube> im trying to let aside my dislikness for gmb and be the most neutral posible
[14:27] <baizon> GridCube: what about deadbeef and listen?
[14:28] <baizon> i used listen for a little bit and liked it
[14:28] <laite> is clementine qt-based?
[14:28] <baizon> yes :)
[14:28] <GridCube> yes
[14:28] <GridCube> im trying them to compare
[14:28] <laite> that's what I thought :)
[14:30] <GridCube> but at least it doesnt pull 2/3 of kde like amarok tries
[14:31] <baizon> clementine is the best music player imo
[14:31] <laite> besides gmusicbrowser, you surely mean ;)
[14:31] <baizon> to bad it doesnt have a gtk port
[14:31] <baizon> i hate gmusicbrowser :)
[14:31] <laite> heh
[14:31] <baizon> tried it for a month
[20:50]  * jussi slaps knome... nasty boy
[20:51]  * knome farts at jussi