[08:26] <VK7HSE> just wondering if this is current normal for edge? (see screen shots)  http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/927280/Screenshot.png  and   http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/927280/Screenshot-1.png  the avatars don't match! screenshot.png is my current, but screenshot1.png is old... very old!
[08:29] <wgrant> VK7HSE: That's known. They use different sizes of your image. The edge one hasn't been (isn't?) changable for a couple of years, as it wasn't used anywhere until now.
[09:14] <micahg> where would I submit a bug about the breadcrumb?
[09:18] <micahg> wgrant: ^^
[09:19] <VK7HSE> wgrant: thanks! (got called to do the dishes!)
[09:41] <Theuni1> hi there
[09:41] <Theuni1> I'm trying to use launchpadlib to do some gardening for the Zope Toolkit projects.
[09:41] <Theuni1> I don't see how to set the bugtracker of a project to be launchpad programmatically.
[09:42] <Theuni1> Any pointers?
[09:52] <rowinggolfer> is bazaar.launchpad.net working ok?
[09:52] <rowinggolfer> I'm stuck in a pull.
[09:52] <rowinggolfer> never happened before
[10:45] <wgrant> Theuni1: There's no way to do that through the API at the moment, unfortunately.
[10:45] <Theuni1> eeek
[10:45] <Theuni1> that's bad news for me ... :/
[10:46] <mwhudson> Theuni1: submit a patch to make it possible!
[10:46] <wgrant> Theuni1: I suspect there's something wrong with how your script configures the programming languages, too.
[10:47] <wgrant> (they appear as [u'Python'])
[10:47] <Theuni1> yeah
[10:47] <Theuni1> the problem is i can't fix them ;)
[10:47] <Theuni1> because setting programming_language on the created projects gives me an exception
[10:47] <Theuni1> I misread the documentation
[10:47] <Theuni1> I read "a list" but it meant " a string with a comma separated list"
[10:47] <Theuni1> for some reason it accepted the list and turned it into a stirng ...
[10:47]  * wgrant tries.
[10:48] <wgrant> Lists are somewhat awkward in launchpadlib at the moment.
[10:48] <wgrant> Awkward and inconsistent.
[10:52] <wgrant> Theuni1: I can set the programming languages for an existing project fine, with a string like 'Python, JavaScript'. That field is just a string, not a list.
[10:52] <Theuni1> What's the attribute name you use?
[10:52] <wgrant> Theuni1: programming_language
[10:52]  * Theuni1 tries again
[10:52] <wgrant> someproject.programming_language = 'Python, fewfw'
[10:52] <wgrant> someproject.lp_save()
[10:52] <Theuni1> oh
[10:52] <Theuni1> I had a trailing ","
[10:53] <Theuni1> so it looks like it hung up on that
[10:53] <Theuni1> I accidentally assigned a 1-tuple
[10:53] <Theuni1> Language should be fine now
[10:53] <wgrant> Aha.
[10:53] <wgrant> That would do it.
[10:56] <wgrant> For setting the official usage of the projects, I recommend either crafting lots of browser POST requests. Exporting the field writable is probably non-trivial, as it interacts in strange ways with the bugtracker attribute. Those constraints are only enforced in the views at the moment.
[10:56] <wgrant> s/either //
[12:52] <javaJake> OOPS-1352A1164: bug #1 takes too long to load comments. Is there a bug for Launchpad's slow comment system?
[12:53] <javaJake> Somehow I think you guys hit this before and worked around it with the "only showing first n" :)
[13:00] <javaJake> lol... the "Choose" link on the front page returns a 404 (OOPS-1352EC399)
[13:00]  * javaJake files two bug reports ;)
[13:19] <javaJake> For OOPS-1352EC399, should I file a bug report or was that a one-time deal that should "never" happen again?
[13:22] <dewolfhound> hello
[13:22] <dewolfhound> how often can one build debs not to be abusive?
[13:23] <dewolfhound> i have a rapidly developed project
[13:23] <dewolfhound> ubuntu people have some problems compiling from svn
[13:23] <dewolfhound> so i wanted to provide .debs for them
[13:27] <wgrant> dewolfhound: There are lots of PPAs that build nightly.
[13:28] <dewolfhound> so once per day is okay?
[13:28] <dewolfhound> great
[13:28] <dewolfhound> thx
[13:58] <grayfox-devel> hey guys
[13:58] <grayfox-devel> there is a privacy leak on launchpad
[13:59] <grayfox-devel> is any admin online?
[13:59] <javaJake> grayfox-devel: I don't think so... it's been pretty quiet here. I wonder if Sunday has anything to do with that. :P
[14:00] <grayfox-devel> okay
[14:00] <grayfox-devel> i will write an e-mail
[14:00] <grayfox-devel> these kubuntu-bugs-lists show my e-mail-adress
[14:01] <grayfox-devel> and in launchpad i set the privacy options to NOT show my e-mail-adress
[14:01] <grayfox-devel> now anyone can google me
[14:01] <javaJake> Ouch :/
[18:06] <meoblast001> by any chance would it be possible for you guys to implement CIA for BZR on the Launchpad servers?
[18:06] <meoblast001> i currently use client-size bzr-cia and it's quite awkward compared to server-side
[18:53] <mdke> meoblast001: feel free to "me too" on bug 342729
[21:27] <fta> "11962 jobs (eight days)" for the i386 ppa queue, is that a joke?
[21:28] <fta> "5831 jobs (six days)" for amd64
[21:39] <geser> fta: a test rebuild of the whole archive
[21:41] <geser> they have a low priority so they shouldn't block the normal PPA usage
[21:50] <fta> shouldn't this be done when all the builders are there? (not just 4x3)
[21:54] <geser> I don't know on which base the builders are allocated or reallocated
[21:54] <geser> IIRC a few days ago when the rebuild started more PPA builders were available
[22:05] <jamalta> Hi, is there a way to create projects that I created?
[22:05] <jamalta> I mean.. delete projects, sorry..
[22:06] <micahg> jamalta: file a request here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[22:15] <thumper> morning


[00:00] <persia> cjwatson, I was mostly blindly attempting to make the resulting install similar to the results of having used moblin-image-creator, rather than thinking carefully.  passwordless sudo would make more sense in that context.
[00:01] <cjwatson> mdz happened to mention it today in a different context (oem) and I thought it made sense
[00:03] <StevenK> MIC does something subtly different though. It has the crypt of '' in ume-config postinst and sets it
[00:03] <StevenK> (Which I find hideous)
[00:03] <persia> My only fear would be with the GUI sudo proxies : it's useful to have the popup alerting the user that the following action is an admin action, even if it can be dismissed with the enter key, but perhaps that's better done through integration with some policykit frontend.
[00:03] <cjwatson> StevenK: not that far off what casper down
[00:03] <cjwatson> does
[00:04] <persia> StevenK, That's essentially what user-setup does with the appropriate preseeding now.
[00:04] <cjwatson> persia: it's not exactly very obvious that you have to hit enter though; we get questions about that kind of thing from time to time when it rears its head
[00:05] <persia> cjwatson, True.
[00:05]  * persia adds writing a spec about a good way to handle that to the TODO list for next week
[00:11] <StevenK> cjwatson: casper is a special case, it's a live system. No fair for an installed one. :-)
[09:38] <xivulon> TheMuso, hi, did you by any chance try wubi with sw raids? I still have in the guides "forget it", can I now change that?
[09:58] <CIA-2> oem-config: cjwatson * r555 oem-config/ (debian/changelog scripts/tzsetup):
[09:58] <CIA-2> oem-config: Use OVERRIDE_SHOW_ALL_LANGUAGES in the tzsetup wrapper as well as
[09:58] <CIA-2> oem-config: localechooser (LP: #290580).
[10:13] <cjwatson> superm1: ^- oem-config r555: we'll get this into -updates at this point, I think - is that OK for you?
[10:13] <cjwatson> sorry this wasn't caught 'til late
[10:19] <TheMuso> xivulon: Sorry I didn't try it, and can't spare a box to be cleared and set up with Windows at this point either unfortunately.
[10:21] <evand> xivulon: I can try when I get back to the states.
[10:23] <tjaalton> this is strange.. netbooting intrepid for the first time, and doing "d-i preseed/include_command echo foo/bar" results in html code in the preseed log, and the install fails. this works on hardy though
[10:35] <CIA-2> oem-config: cjwatson * r556 oem-config/ (configure configure.ac): bump to 1.54
[10:46] <CIA-2> ubiquity: evand * r2930 ubiquity/ (configure configure.ac): Bump to 1.10.9
[10:46] <tjaalton> yep, it's the -c option for wget that breaks it
[10:48] <CIA-2> ubiquity: evand * r2931 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/zoommap.py):
[10:48] <CIA-2> ubiquity: Check to make sure a gdk window is mapped before calling
[10:48] <CIA-2> ubiquity: cairo_create (LP: #208800).
[10:58] <tjaalton> sigh, why do I get 416 with the -c option
[11:01] <CIA-2> usb-creator: evand * r54 usb-creator/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
[11:01] <CIA-2> usb-creator: * Internally represent the persistent file size in bytes for greater
[11:01] <CIA-2> usb-creator:  accuracy.
[11:01] <CIA-2> usb-creator: * Move self.pipe declaration to the correct location.
[11:01] <CIA-2> usb-creator: * Add a bootloader installation progress message.
[11:02] <CIA-2> usb-creator: * Install the bootloader to the MBR as well (LP: #273477).
[11:11] <tjaalton> duh, so no ifconfig in busybox anymore, that's what broke my preseeding
[11:21] <xivulon> TheMuso, evand, not in a rush, it's only to update the website/guides accordingly, users will ask me whether raids are supported or not and atm I have no clue.
[11:21] <tjaalton> ideas how to get the MAC-address inside busybox?-)
[11:21] <tjaalton> without ifconfig
[11:22] <xivulon> evand are you in london? will be around for the release party?
[11:23] <evand> tjaalton: cat /proc/net/arp ?
[11:23] <evand> xivulon: ja and ja
[11:23] <evand> will you be there?
[11:23] <xivulon> hopefully yes, (if works allows)
[11:24] <evand> good deal
[11:25] <tjaalton> evand: tried that, but doesn't have anything about the host
[11:26] <tjaalton> oh well, I could just tell it on the cmdline and parse that
[11:33] <cjwatson> tjaalton: use ip
[11:33] <cjwatson> busybox hasn't had ifconfig for ages
[11:33] <cjwatson> at least not in our config
[11:33] <cjwatson> ip addr show or some such
[11:42] <StevenK> ip a l
[11:58] <tjaalton> cjwatson: yes, will try that. hardy did have ifconfig though :)
[11:59] <cjwatson> mm, Debian turned it off yes
[13:39] <cjwatson> persia: do you have any more idea about what bug 288320's about?
[13:40] <persia> cjwatson, It's about trying to install a language pack when it's not available and the network isn't present.
[13:41] <persia> I can generate some logs, but when I was looking at it on Friday, I was tempted to blame anna.
[13:42] <persia> lool wanted me to document some workarounds, but none of them were ever applied, so it's outstanding.
[13:42] <persia> The proper solution is to integrate with debian-cd, rendering it much more unlikely to reach that state.
[13:42] <cjwatson> oh, this is due to lack of .disk/whatever?
[13:42] <cjwatson> maybe not
[13:43] <cjwatson> the installer really shouldn't hang in this case even if language packs aren't on the disk
[13:43] <cjwatson> can I reproduce this in an emulator without an actual device?
[13:43] <persia> From what I saw, it looked like it was looping on trying to install the language pack and failing.
[13:43] <cjwatson> that's really odd
[13:43] <cjwatson> won't be anna
[13:43] <persia> If you turn off networking, you should be able to do that.  Alternately, install it on an old i686 without networking.
[13:43] <lool> cjwatson: Yes
[13:44] <cjwatson> anna installs udebs and language packs are debs
[13:44] <lool> (you can reproduce in emulator)
[13:44] <cjwatson> persia: sorry, never done this before, don't suppose you can point me to full instructions?
[13:44] <persia> cjwatson, Which route?  burning the image for non-network hardware, or disabling networking for kvm?
[13:44] <lool> cjwatson: kvm -m 512 -cdrom ubuntu-mid.img works
[13:45] <persia> lool, even with network?
[13:45] <lool> err -hda
[13:45]  * persia is confused, and tries that, wondering if there are different error messages
[13:45] <cjwatson> lool: ok, thanks
[13:45] <cjwatson> -net none I guess
[13:45] <persia> That ought do it.
[13:45] <lool> Yeah, exactly
[13:45] <persia> lool, You reproduced without -net none?
[13:46] <lool> I was looking up the option
[13:46] <lool> persia: No; I know one can use the image in kvm, and I'm confident that you can reproduce the no net issue in kvm as well
[13:46] <lool> I never tried both, but I'm confident it works :)
[13:46] <persia> lool, OK.  That makes me feel better.
[13:47] <cjwatson> downloading
[13:48] <persia> Actually, you probably want `kvm -hda ubuntu-mid.img -hdb target.img -m 512M -net none` (as I hadn't tested -cdrom before, and it's not working for me now)
[13:48] <lool> cjwatson: There's a catch, you can't boot from hdb with the image, and if you boot from hda with the image and then install to hdb, it will corrupt your hda img
[13:48] <lool> But you should be able to at least go as far as reproducing the issue I guess
[13:48] <cjwatson> yeah, not bothered about booting the whole thing
[13:48] <cjwatson> why will it corrupt hda?
[13:49] <persia> I thought evand's changes to not break USB sticks fixed that.  Double-checking (I've been playing with hardware recently)
[13:49] <persia> It used to corrupt hda because it would install grub on hda when installing the target to hdb
[13:50] <lool> persia: Oh it's fixed?
[13:50] <persia> And Install is under Preferences, once you boot.
[13:50] <persia> lool, I thought so : double-checking now.
[13:50] <lool> cjwatson: If you meet the corruption issue, you can use -cdrom isolinux.iso with http://people.ubuntu.com/~lool/isolinux.iso
[13:50] <lool> and select "2" to boot from hdb
[13:51] <lool> persia: Saw some untranslated strings go through
[13:51] <lool> "Calculating size to skip copying" or somethign like that
[13:52] <lool> in ubiquity
[13:52] <lool> Before "Copie des fichiers" "copying files"
[13:52] <persia> lool, There's a few of those, which depends on the language.
[13:52] <lool> Ok
[13:52] <lool> persia: These are marked for translations but weren't?
[13:52]  * persia defers to someone who knows which strings are in ubiquity (rosetta-translated) and which are from d-i (d-i translated)
[13:54] <lool> "Miroir de l'archive Ubuntu corrompu" (ubuntu archive mirror corrupt)
[13:54] <lool> Popup with "Ok" as the only choice, and displayed in a loop with -net none
[13:54] <lool> So I confirm I can reproduce in kvm :)
[13:54] <lool> This is at the "Analysing mirror" step (Analyse du miroir)
[13:56] <evand> lool: "Calculating size to skip copying" -> we had to put that in untranslated post-RC
[13:56] <persia> lool, "Bad archive mirror" isn't language-specific.
[13:56] <cjwatson> I don't care about untranslated strings at this point anyway
[13:56] <cjwatson> it's too late to do anything about them
[13:59] <lool> I just wanted to mention it in case it was a specific string which was missing _()
[13:59] <lool> But it seems it's not and is known :)
[14:00] <lool> persia: Isn't language-specific?  Sorry don't understand what you mean
[14:00] <lool> persia: Oh it's the C version of my string, ok
[14:01] <persia> lool, Although I had a successful English install previously on hardware, I just ran an English install in KVM -net none and got the error, which surprises me, as my hardware has never had a net connection that worked.
[14:01] <lool> persia: Black magic I tell you
[14:03] <lool> persia: So, corruption or no corruption?
[14:04] <persia> Hrm?
[14:05] <lool> persia: I think you were checking whether hda was still corrupted
[14:06] <persia> lool, Yes, but I was caught by 288320, which I hadn't seen in English before.
[14:08] <persia> INPUT critical mirror/bad seems to be the interesting bit.
[14:16] <cjwatson> persia: I'll have to defer looking at this, something else urgent has come up
[14:17] <persia> cjwatson, Not a problem.
[14:26] <lool> persia: No, still corrupted
[14:26] <persia> lool, Hrm.  Oh well.  I thought it worked once.
[14:35] <persia> lool, Found it.  I'll update the bug when I'm out of the meeting, but the issue is that apt-setup thinks we're doing a netboot install when we install from USB (as it's not marked as a CD install), and so expects choose-mirror to get a mirror from the network.
[14:36] <persia> lool, Considering that this infrastructure won't be used for Jaunty, I'd say it's worth a release note at best.
[14:37] <cjwatson> ah right
[14:37] <cjwatson> so indeed, .disk on the image
[14:38] <lool> persia: k
[15:15] <superm1> cjwatson, its  fairly less than ideal.. so if there is still an opportunity for re-rolling at least DVD disks with just this change, that'd be much more preferable
[15:15] <superm1> surely the absence of an "updated" live DVD throughout the last month due to archive inconsistencies played into not catching this kind of bug
[15:18] <cjwatson> superm1: my worry is that that would require respinning alternate images too, or else break jigdos
[15:18] <cjwatson> superm1: if we get this in ASAP after release, we could do a special DVD build for you ...
[15:19] <cjwatson> if I respin alternate images as well as desktop/DVD, the QA team are going to be even more heavily loaded up and I'm worried they won't make it
[15:19] <superm1> would they necessarily need to be retesting "everything" with the new DVDs if you know the only delta was an oem-config deb that sat in pool/ though?
[15:19] <cjwatson> it's not, we also have a ubiquity change
[15:19] <superm1> oh i see..
[15:20] <cjwatson> and as I said if I uploaded oem-config then they'd have to retest alternate too
[15:20] <cjwatson> we do need to do a smoke-test of everything
[15:20] <cjwatson> at some point we will write up a list of the things that have gone wrong in the past, in order to give people an idea of the kinds of things that can happen if you try to skimp on this
[15:21] <superm1> well we've got a framework to allow dropping in updated debs as necessary in case things like this happen.  so long as it's in -updates we can pull it into it through that framework.
[15:21] <cjwatson> I wouldn't ask the QA team to skip this, and I wouldn't expect them to say yes if we tried
[15:22] <superm1> just using it adds more factory burn time, so that's hwy it's preferable to have the one on the DVD go with it
[15:23] <cjwatson> I'd be happy to do a custom DVD for you after 8.10
[15:23] <cjwatson> with just this change
[15:23] <superm1> okay, that'd be sufficient
[15:23] <CIA-2> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2931 intrepid/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py):
[15:23] <CIA-2> ubiquity: Always copy the kernel from /cdrom/casper/ if it's there regardless of
[15:23] <CIA-2> ubiquity: whether any kernels are already present in /target/boot/, since those
[15:23] <CIA-2> ubiquity: could just be due to a preserve-home install (LP: #287747).
[15:24] <cjwatson> ok, great
[15:29] <CIA-2> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2932 intrepid/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.10.9
[15:35] <CIA-2> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2932 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py): merge from intrepid branch
[16:59] <CarlFK> is grep -E supported in the installer?  I want to do: grep -E (name|MHz) /proc/cpuinfo >> $TARGET/etc/motd
[17:00] <CarlFK> I am assuming /proc/cpuinfo exists
[17:06] <cjwatson> CarlFK: yes
[17:06] <cjwatson> quote '(name|MHz)' thus though
[17:06] <cjwatson> /proc/cpuinfo exists
[17:07] <CarlFK> quotes - right.  thanks
[18:09] <CarlFK> old P3 box that may have hardware issues, but...: ibex alt-installer: update-apt-xapi[26136]: segfault ... kernel:  in python2.5[8048000+fc000
[18:12] <CarlFK> actully that is the 2nd segfault - 35 lines of syslog:  http://dpaste.com/87601/
[18:13] <cjwatson> not an installer bug
[18:13] <CarlFK> I am guessing this means "bad hardware" Oct 29 17:35:34 kernel: [ 1787.160872]          res 51/40:00:a7:2a:47/00:00:00:00:00/e2 Emask 0x9 (media error)
[18:13] <cjwatson> looks like I/O errors on whatever ata1 is
[18:13] <cjwatson> sda I suspect
[18:17] <CarlFK> yeah - lots of Oct 29 17:07:00 kernel: [   72.894627]          res 51/84:00:28:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/e0 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus erro
[18:17] <CarlFK> grep error syslog |wc
[18:17] <CarlFK>      61
[18:17] <CarlFK> never mind :)
[19:00] <CIA-2> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2933 ubiquity/ (12 files in 5 dirs): merge from intrepid branch
[19:18] <CIA-2> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2934 ubiquity/ (configure configure.ac): bump to 1.10.11
[20:33] <CIA-2> ubiquity: evand * r2935 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/debconffilter.py):
[20:33] <CIA-2> ubiquity: Reset next_go_backup after encountering a question marked as seen
[20:33] <CIA-2> ubiquity: (LP: #290760).
[20:46] <CIA-2> user-setup: evand * r126 user-setup.ubuntu/ (debian/changelog user-setup-apply): Do not force chpasswd to md5 crypted passwords (LP: #51551).
[20:50] <CIA-2> migration-assistant: evand * r93 migration-assistant/ (debian/changelog ma-script-utils): Do not force chpasswd to md5 crypt passwords (LP: #51551).


[15:41] <Ankman> there seems to be a widely successful linux distribution in China called Deepin. it was developed by Wuhan Deepin Technology. i wonder if it comes with any viruses pre-installed ;-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepin


[00:06] <knome> now that missing file...
[00:08] <knome> aaand that should be done
[00:08] <knome> bluesabre, plz double-check stuff, then proceed to uploading
[00:08] <knome> and didn't i say midnightish UTC :P
[00:09] <bluesabre> :)
[00:09] <bluesabre> thanks knome
[00:11]  * knome proeeds to eating carrots
[00:11] <knome> +c
[00:11] <Unit193> Frozen?
[00:12] <knome> nope
[00:14] <bluesabre> Chilly?
[00:14] <knome> from the fridge
[00:24] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: [zesty] r321 Update the Plymouth wallpaper... (by Pasi Lallinaho)
[00:26] <bluesabre> Fridgey
[00:27] <bluesabre> knome, looks good to me
[00:28] <knome> goodie
[01:30] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: [zesty] r322 Update elementary-xfce, update plymouth text theme to 17.04,... (by Sean Davis)
[01:30] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: [zesty] r323 And include all the new icons (by Sean Davis)
[05:15] <pleia2> Perigee: they asked me to chime in re: videos/screencasts, I think it's a good idea but I haven't had time to brainstorm exactly what folks would want
[05:16] <Perigee> I figured I can come up with a list to start and email back the dev list
[05:16] <pleia2> that would be fantastic
[05:17] <Perigee> I feel Xubuntu could do really well for newbies, so basic functions everyday tasks would be a good start. Could always get into the heavier stuff later on.
[05:17]  * pleia2 nods
[05:19] <Perigee> Also, as a side note... I've spent most of the evening here tweaking a Hexchat theme using the Xubuntu colors from the Terminal
[05:19] <pleia2> nice :)
[05:19] <Perigee> Should I send that to the dev list?
[05:20] <pleia2> go for it
[05:20] <Perigee> Looks pretty nice if I say so myself
[09:15] <flocculant> sigh ...
[09:15] <flocculant> bluesabre: sowwy :( icons missing from sgt games menu bug 1670605
[10:05] <flocculant> knome: ooooh blue \o/
[11:06] <bluesabre> flocculant, they might have been dropped, the newest sgt-puzzles moved to gtk3
[11:07] <bluesabre> try launching that game via command line
[11:18] <flocculant> bluesabre: same deal - no icon - for any of them
[11:19] <bluesabre> flocculant, indeed then, they were dropped with the gtk3 migration
[11:19] <flocculant> ok
[11:21] <flocculant> didn't think about that - changed bug to -puzzles
[11:39] <bluesabre> flocculant, thanks... probably won't get fixed since menu item icons are deprecated
[11:40] <bluesabre> flocculant, ochosi, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-notifyd/0.3.5-1
[11:47] <Unit193> Except: https://git.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-notifyd/commit/?id=f8691b209d17748a768a5ce199a2f05890acd78e - https://git.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-notifyd/commit/?id=16660fa212641ea15871e792744cc97f03c91968 - https://git.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-notifyd/commit/?id=415cd921717dff745eaf8dc01d32f1c1772dee42 - https://git.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-notifyd/commit/?id=1e1b6b9cf9cee1e5355a3e5746950a63c16a15bd
[12:08] <bluesabre> Unit193, those look handy
[12:08] <bluesabre> ochosi, bugfix release inbound?
[12:49] <ochosi> bluesabre: yeah, i plan to do one very soon. i presume it would help to do it very soon..?
[12:57] <ochosi> (if so, what's the ideal timeline)
[22:42] <flocculant> as the kids apparently say now
[22:43] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: you about at all? I know work has been a bit meh - want to change qa page to the draft - waiting on you buddy ;)
[22:43] <flocculant> is what I meant to say :D
[23:29] <bluesabre> ochosi, before the 20th would be best


[00:04] <daftykins> no sir
[00:14] <maps|wrk> onfigure: error: Package requirements (purple >= 2.7.0) were not met:
[00:14] <maps|wrk> :(
[00:27] <daftykins> ah ye olde libpurple
[00:27] <maps|wrk> fixed
[00:27] <maps|wrk> :D
[01:43] <maps|wrk> hm
[01:43] <maps|wrk> regex always confuses me
[01:47] <daftykins> i'm off, nn \o
[01:47] <daftykins> lol at my early night plan
[01:47] <daftykins> 2am wtf
[01:49] <maps|wrk> NIGHT NIGHT
[01:49] <maps|wrk> :)
[04:24] <mapps> hm
[10:12] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[11:15] <ali1234> what is going on with the text baseline here? http://imagebin.org/301110
[11:15] <ali1234> from http://dev.drumoff.tv/wp-content/themes/drumoff-theme/test/test.php#
[11:58] <mapps> morning all
[11:58] <brobostigon> morning mapps
[12:18]  * penguin42 appreciates Exaile picking 'Easy' as his first song of the day
[12:43] <mapps> http://www.centerim.org/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions
[12:43] <mapps> that load for anyone?
[12:47] <philwyett> Loads fine.
[12:49] <penguin42> yeh fine here
[12:49] <mapps> thank
[12:50] <jpds> Program looks so 80s.
[12:50] <jpds> http://www.centerim.org/index.php/File:Centerim-screenshot.png
[12:51] <mapps> yea
[12:51] <mapps> its ghetto
[12:51] <mapps> :D
[12:51] <mapps> heh
[12:51] <mapps> but i wanted a command line gtalk client
[12:53] <jpds> mapps: http://www.bitlbee.org/
[12:53] <mapps> i shall have a look..thanks:D
[12:53] <mapps> watching arrow atm :D
[13:06] <ujjain> Where does one in the UK buy HDMI-DVI adaptors, USB-to-power plugs etc?
[13:08] <popey> ujjain: amazon?
[13:08] <ujjain> probably the internet right?
[13:09] <ujjain> It's just that I don't have an address, but I guess I can use the office address
[13:09] <ali1234> pound shop
[13:09] <ali1234> if you're feeling lucky
[13:09] <mapps> you dont have an address
[13:11] <ujjain> I don't want to be pounded
[13:11] <ujjain> ah right, I already checked the £1 shop
[13:11] <ujjain> I will use Amazon I guess.
[13:12] <penguin42> ujjain: Amazon also do deliver to locker stuff
[13:13] <mapps> locker stuff?!
[13:13] <mapps> i know that with amazon you can also have it delivered to certain shops and pick it up from theses shops if theyre local to u
[13:13] <mapps> underground stations were also going to start offering amazon collection
[13:30] <penguin42> mappSome of them are lockers that you open using a code sent to you
[13:32] <DJones> One of our local co-op stores has lockers for amazon deliveries, not sure how they work, but presumably as penguin42 said, they deliver to the store & you get a code to open the locker
[13:54] <mapp> oh i didnt know..cool
[14:12] <knightwise> Afternoon peeps
[14:58] <popey> Afternoon slackers!
[15:01] <brobostigon> afternoodlings popey
[15:02] <penguin42> hey Popey
[15:15] <mapp> afternoon popey
[15:32] <mapp> oh wow
[15:32] <mapp> spurs won? i thought it was gsm
[20:19] <mapps> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYSy8xferSk
[20:19] <mapps> best song ever
[22:18] <maps|wrk> yello
[22:19] <diddledan> mornin
[22:24] <maps|wrk> upto anything on this fine sunday?
[22:25] <diddledan> nope
[22:30] <maps|wrk> :)
[22:31] <diddledan> been reading about how freebsd implements linux-flavoured jails though, interesting concept
[22:32] <diddledan> they implement a subset of kernel syscalls with a small shim which translates the linux-world call into a bsd-equivalent call thereby not requiring anything from the gpl kernel
[22:34] <diddledan> apparently the two kernels are different enough that you can't just pass directly but must perform a small translation because linux uses stack-based syscalls whereas bsd does syscalls some other way; means the stack needs to be manipulated and the variables included there converted to bsd equivalents before forwarding the syscall
[22:37] <maps|wrk> sounds complicated:D
[22:37] <diddledan> maybe I got that bacasswards - one of them uses a stack and the other doesn't, but I can't remember which way about it is
[22:37] <diddledan> back*
[22:38] <daftykins> ^_^
[22:38] <diddledan> the gory details are here: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/linux-emulation/article.html
[22:39] <diddledan> aha, linux uses processor registers to pass the syscall parameters whereas bsd uses the stack
[22:39] <maps|wrk> will read in a bit
[22:39] <maps|wrk> good day today for me./.got a decent payrise at work:D
[22:39] <maps|wrk> way better than what i expected
[22:39] <diddledan> so there's a limit to the size of parameters in linuxland
[22:39] <diddledan> nice, welldone
[22:45] <maps|wrk> :D
[22:45] <maps|wrk> wonder what the avg payrise in % will be for this financial yr
[22:46] <maps|wrk> so my student loan payments will increase and my pension contribution O_O
[22:48] <daftykins> D:
[22:48] <daftykins> automatically?
[22:48] <diddledan> student loans are evil
[22:48] <diddledan> :-p
[22:49] <maps|wrk> yea i think it is isnt it
[22:49] <maps|wrk> my pay goes up so surely stuident loan does
[22:52] <daftykins> we don't have them over here
[23:01] <maps|wrk> u went to uni tho didnt u?
[23:02] <daftykins> yeah, but the local gov contributes to the tuition fees a bit
[23:02] <daftykins> the rest is means-tested to see if your parents should pay :D
[23:06] <maps|wrk> ahhh
[23:06] <maps|wrk> god damn
[23:07] <maps|wrk> 900 quid for the hotel i stayed in last year
[23:07] <maps|wrk> im sure we paid like 450
[23:07] <maps|wrk> putting the prices up because of the months pah
[23:08] <daftykins> O_O
[23:08] <daftykins> for glastonbury?
[23:11] <maps|wrk> na
[23:11] <maps|wrk> for Czech republic
[23:11] <maps|wrk> i cant remember if i went in May/June last year though
[23:12] <maps|wrk> was looking at going in May for a week
[23:14] <daftykins> ah what's going on there?
[23:16] <maps|wrk> just going back there with a mate , had a good time last year
[23:16] <maps|wrk> so0 figured why not go back
[23:16] <maps|wrk> nice girls, the weather was decent etc
[23:17] <maps|wrk> and probably going to meet my mate that lives over there too, thgats why we went last yr
[23:18] <daftykins> :D
[23:18] <daftykins> cool
[23:25] <maps|wrk> hmm i remember seeing some kind of like multi plug phone charger thing with attachments for all phones but cant remember the name any idea daftykins ?
[23:27] <daftykins> naw not sure i'm afraid
[23:28] <Azelphur> maps|wrk: http://dx.com/p/universal-6-in-1-usb-charging-cable-black-23cm-293193 is that what you're looking for?
[23:30] <maps|wrk> na it was some slick looking key device where they popped out
[23:30] <maps|wrk> wish i could remember where i saw it
[23:30] <Azelphur> was it mentioned in here?
[23:30] <maps|wrk> nop, read it somewhere , just wondered if it rang a bell wih anyone
[23:31] <Azelphur> ah ok


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