[20:06] <RyanPrior> NaNO2x: I had that problem with my laptop recently and it turned out that my motherboard was going bad. It's probably a hardware issue if it's unable to read things at boot time.
[20:06] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, what file?
[20:06] <TechRavingMad> I'm working on just a single monitor
[20:06] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, heh out of ideas too? =P
[20:06] <jgoo> what-ho chaps. Blender 2.44 crashes with graphical glitches when I create a camera. #blender says upgrade to 2.45, which I did. It still crashes. Also the top menu shows through the top menu of the blender app (the network box etc) - should I disable... 3d desktop in gnome?? halpz!
[20:06] <jinxed-> eckesicle, yeah thats how I ended up with the error that i copied the url to in the pastebin
[20:06] <kaed> Bonsoie
[20:06] <NaNO2x> motherboard...GAH
[20:06] <UBUNTUISLOVED> the pdf i printed? its not under /home/jason nor /home/jason/PDF
[20:06] <MisterChief> randorfer: no
[20:06] <kaed> bonsoir*
[20:06] <nekohayo> hey there, anyone knows how to change the keyboard layout used in the TTY consoles?
[20:06] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, in console type lp -d PDF filename
[20:06] <nekohayo> kaed: il y a #ubuntu-fr :)
[20:06] <RyanPrior> jgoo: If disabling 3d desktop works, do it. Compiz is still considered somewhat experimental, and it is not nearly as mature and stable as Metacity.
[20:06] <eckesicle> jinxed-, okay
[20:07] <NaNO2x> i figured it was a hardware issue, what about the issue of not reading things while booted, specifically recently it was a dvd
[20:07] <jgoo> RyanPrior: what is the cleanest way? I have ccsm installed
[20:07] <RyanPrior> What is a good MP3 player for compatibility with Ubuntu and free formats like Ogg and FLAC?
[20:07] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, did it not work to copy propriatary drivers on flash?
[20:07] <TigranG> jinxed-: you have the nvidia driver installed tho?
[20:07] <randorfer> Misterchief try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:07] <jinxed-> TigranG, yes i believe so
[20:07] <RyanPrior> jgoo: Go in your desktop effects menu and disable the desktop effects there. Your desktop will automatically revert to Metacity.
[20:07] <jinxed-> there is a check in the restricted drivers
[20:07] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: No such file or directory
[20:08] <tofaffy> My jump drive's mount point has a lock symbol on it...so when I try and change the permissions by right clicking and going to Properties>Permissions it says I can't change it because it's a read only disk...
[20:08] <RyanPrior> jgoo: System -> Preferences -> Appearance, Desktop Effects
[20:08] <jgoo> desktop effects menu brings up ccsm I think
[20:08] <tofaffy> How do I fix that?
[20:08] <TechRavingMad> My issue is that when I enable the nvidia driver on reboot the screen flashes the black scrren with lines of text three times and then goes to low graphics mode
[20:08] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, im trying to mount it but the bash won't believe me that it is -t vfat =X
[20:08] <Lr5___> Anyone knows how to solve bad sound quality in the nonfree flash plugin?
[20:08] <Nirevus> A friend of mine is trying to install Ubuntu from the LiveCD onto a fairly old machine with an IDE hard drive. The first time, it booted up to the desktop, he begun the installation and choose to format the whole disk. During the "setting up file systems" operation it errored and told him it was unable to setup file systems. He restarted to start from scratch, at which pointed it started giving him hundreds of errors like these: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[20:08] <Nirevus> /3309/
[20:08] <TigranG> jinxed: well, paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[20:08] <Nirevus> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3309/
[20:08] <RyanPrior> jgoo: Bring up the Visual Effects menu under Appearance.
[20:08] <MisterChief> randorfer: "Attempt to autodetect video hardware?"
[20:08] <randorfer> yes
[20:08] <jgoo> aaah ok RyanPrior, that worked, I was using the advanced effects menu item
[20:08] <TigranG> jinxed-: I'll try to get your resolution fixed and then you can try getting dualview set up again
[20:08] <RyanPrior> jgoo: Now try Blender again and see if it's fixed.
[20:09] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, do you not have cups installed?
[20:09] <jinxed-> TigranG, sounds good
[20:09] <MisterChief> randorfer: should the X server driver be ati?
[20:09] <jinxed-> TigranG, would it be easier for you if I just gave you remote acess to my computer?
[20:09] <trx> Nirevus, I'd say it looks like the drive is on the way out / IDE cable dodgey
[20:09] <UBUNTUISLOVED> i reach cups fine through localhost:631
[20:09] <randorfer> MisterChief do you have an ati card (if so yes)
[20:09] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, filename is supposed to be the file you want to print to pdf btw
[20:09] <TigranG> jinxed-: no need to
[20:09] <eckesicle> PDF the name of the printer you added
[20:09] <jgoo> RyanPrior: oh noes. still crashes
[20:09] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: understand but get error
[20:09] <jinxed-> TigranG, ok
[20:09] <MisterChief> randofer: pretty sure, I'll go with that then
[20:09] <Lr5___> Nirevus: That looks bad, maybe try adding "irqpoll" to boot options
[20:09] <jinxed-> TigranG, how do i get that file you want?
[20:09] <trx> Nirevus, Does the System have a SMART enabled bios? If so, what does the Smart status for the drive say at bootup?
[20:10] <eckesicle> jinxed-, what is your display called in X config?
[20:10] <Nirevus> trx: That's what I said, but he wanted a second opinion as it's all running from LiveCD, so he couldn't work out what
[20:10] <TigranG> jinxed-: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:10] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: request id is PDF-105 (1 file(s)) ok got it
[20:10] <Nirevus> trx: The hard drive would be used for when booting the livecd
[20:10] <MisterChief> randorfer: should the Identifier for your video card be the default?
[20:10] <UBUNTUISLOVED> wheres the pdf?
[20:10] <Lr5___> Nirevus: I had similar problem and "irqpoll" solved it, but I have no idea what it actually does
[20:10] <Nirevus> Lr5___: I'll get him to try that
[20:10] <RyanPrior> jgoo: Well, it's probably not a problem with Compiz then.
[20:10] <randorfer> MisterCheif yes (usually you can choose default)
[20:10] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, okay good. Should be in same folder as file
[20:10] <patrick_> hey all im runnin 7.10 and to play runescape i had to download and install the java plugin, which i did. but i cannot type in my username or password any ideas??
[20:10] <zcat[1]> Nirevus: make sure none of the plugs have been pulled partly out of socket; if you're working on a machine this can often happen.. then download ultimate boot CD perhaps and run manufacturers diagnostics ?
[20:10] <jgoo> Good try though RyanPrior, thanks
[20:11] <MisterChief> randorfer: Video Card's Bus Identifier?
[20:11] <randorfer> MisterCheif stick with what it gave you for a default
[20:11] <MisterChief> Okay
[20:11] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, its reading my vista partition, so im gonna boot into vista and drop it on that partition
[20:11] <Nirevus> zcat[1]: I would, but I'm sitting 20 minutes away, and trying to walk him through it when the computer he is trying to install Ubuntu on is 2 floors below
[20:11] <usr13> Tnx patrick_ Why are you unable to type in user and pass?
[20:11] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, apparently not. I don't know where it goes.
[20:11] <jinxed-> TigranG, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50895/
[20:11] <MisterChief> randorfer: Amount of memory to be used by the video card? Nothing is there at the moment
[20:11] <RyanPrior> patrick_: Perhaps you need to install Windows fonts for the text to show up. Sort of a wild guess, though.
[20:11] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, okay sounds like an idea
[20:12] <randorfer> MisterChief you can leave that blank
[20:12] <MisterChief> Okay
[20:12] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: ls: *.pdf: No such file or directory i tried adding a printer and i get password prompt and i cant add a printer?
[20:12] <jinxed-> eckesicle, I think it is called "Generic Monitor" or something I don't know... my X config got reset following the instructions on the link you sent me
[20:12] <eckesicle> jinxed-, okay i don't know. If your X config is correct you have to ask someone else
[20:12] <patrick_> ryanprior_: i was typing fine when i first logged in, now it wont work
[20:12] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: i wonder if my permissions are screwed up
[20:12] <MisterChief> randorfer: Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[20:12] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, no if you got the message about request id the file should be printed
[20:12] <randorfer> MisterChief yes
[20:13] <RyanPrior> patrick_: Is it only the Java applet that's having a problem, or other applications as well?
[20:13] <robdeman> anybody here that could jumpstart me: how do I get Postfix to use Procmail?
[20:13] <MisterChief> randorfer: should it be yes to all of them then?
[20:13] <kr00l> Some help please. I'm using a ubuntu live cd on a Dell 4300 and get's past the load bar. Then it tries to bring up the desktop but hangs. It never goes into the desktop where you can actually install ubuntu. Any suggestions. I've tried ubuntu and edubuntu
[20:13] <patrick_> ryanprior:only the when i try to type in my username and password for runescape
[20:13] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, i think the file ends up in ~
[20:13] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: i have this in logs Get-Subscriptions client-error-not-found
[20:13] <randorfer> MisterChief, pretty much just whatever it default to until you get to your screen resolution, then select what you want using the space bar
[20:13] <MisterChief> The default is No
[20:13] <Generic> sometimes I just wonder why I had to pick the username Generic
[20:14] <ricardofloyd> buenas
[20:14] <zcat[1]> kr00l: how much memory in the machine? lots >256M ?
[20:14] <kr00l> 126
[20:14] <RyanPrior> patrick_: Have you already tried the easy stuff like restarting your web browser and so on?
[20:14] <ricardofloyd> alguien que hable spanish
[20:14] <randorfer> MisterChief, then the answer should be no probably
[20:14] <dee> Does anybody know how to replace "Ã¤" by "ä" with sed or something like it?
[20:14] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/23/print-to-pdf-using-cups-pdf/
[20:14] <puff> Wht does it mean when my mouse pointer turns into a double-ended verticale arrow
[20:14] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: known bug but i refuse to update because last time it killed my sound
[20:14] <usr13> kr00l: You either have a hardware issue (something needs fixing or re-configuring), or you need to use alternative CD.
[20:14] <kr00l> zcat[1]: 126
[20:14] <zcat[1]> kr00l: 128M? you need to be using alternate CD then
[20:14] <patrick_> ryanprior: ya and i've restarted my computer, still no luck,  im trying again
[20:14] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acroread/+bug/145772
[20:14] <Wips> Okey, so I try to add a new user writing: "sudo smbpasswd -a user1" and I enter a password twice. But when I Enter the last time it tells me that it fails to modify the password entry for the new user.
[20:14] <eckesicle> jinxed-, okay so it's probably not that then
[20:14] <usr13> kr00l: What is your hardware?
[20:14] <amed> jajajajaja
[20:14] <RyanPrior> puff: It means resize vertically, which can be used on many windows.
[20:14] <TigranG> jinxed-: try doing this, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.back then log out and login to a terminal session and do sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and then type exit and login normally. This should fix resolution. If you can't login, from a terminal just do sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.back /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:14] <hinotf> hi all
[20:14] <NaNO2x> anyone know of a good asus channel or somewhere where laptop hardware questions could be asked?
[20:15] <MisterChief> randorfer: should the mouse port be /dev/input/mice?
[20:15] <puff> RyanPrior: What does it mean when it does that and alt-tab stops working, and minimize the window doesn't work, and the auto-unhide taskbar doesn't work?
[20:15] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: is there a way i can rollback updates if they screw up?
[20:15] <RyanPrior> NaNO2x: #hardware
[20:15] <randorfer> MisterChief: yes
[20:15] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, okay I think I have misunderstood your problem bigtime. Do you want to print a pdf or print to pdf
[20:15] <eckesicle> ?
[20:15] <kr00l> zcat[1] / usr13: 30gb hdd, 128mb Ram, ethernet card, AGP video card. CD/Rom
[20:15] <patrick_> ryanprior: for some reason now it works haha, ill come back if i have more probs thanks
[20:15] <puff> Man, this is insanely frustrating.
[20:15] <puff> Guess I'll try a reboot and see if that helps.
[20:15] <RyanPrior> puff: That means something is wrong. :-P
[20:15] <usr13> kr00l: What rpocessor?
[20:15] <jinxed-> TigranG, ok give me a second
[20:15] <hinotf> why Tracker not indexing ntfs disk?
[20:16] <usr13> kr00l: What video card?
[20:16] <MisterChief> randorfer: method for selecting the monitor characteristics?
[20:16] <RyanPrior> patrick_: I'm glad it ended up working out. :-)
[20:16] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: sorry your right i want to print to PDF
[20:16] <randorfer> MisterChief simple / easy (can't remember what it says exactly)
[20:16] <kr00l> zcat[1] / usr13: P4, idk the video card hope it's not ati. The mouse works right now just no desktop
[20:16] <zcat[1]> kr00l: you won't be able to run the live cd installer in 128M ram.. I'm not sure even xubuntu will run too well in 128M .. you might need more, or try a lighter linux. You won't be able to boot any of the live CD's in that I don't think
[20:17] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, okay very good. I do not know of a way to rollback updates
[20:17] <kbrooks> um, how do i reinstall ubuntu-minimal without reinstalling eject
[20:17] <RyanPrior> zcat[1]: Xubuntu runs fine on 128M.
[20:17] <usr13> kr00l: what speed is the processor?
[20:17] <MisterChief> randorfer: write monitor sync ranges to the configuration file?
[20:17] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/23/print-to-pdf-using-cups-pdf/
[20:17] <kr00l> zcat[1] / usr13: possible to image HDD on different pc then put back on the 128mb ram computer?
[20:17] <randorfer> MisterChief yes
[20:17] <zcat[1]> RyanPrior: ahh, good.. wasn't sure it was that light..
[20:17] <jinxed-> TigranG, when you say log out and login to a terminal session do you mean open up a terminal window? or do i have to do something else?
[20:17] <RyanPrior> zcat[1]: Especially if you install in text-mode. Once it's installed, it runs snappy in 128m.
[20:17] <kbrooks> is there a option to apt-get to do that
[20:17] <kr00l> zcat[1] / usr13: P4 1.5
[20:17] <xerxes1358> Does Ubuntu recognize external USB drives automatically ?
[20:17] <MisterChief> randorfer: color depth in bits?
[20:17] <nuckinfuts> anyone remember the file in /etc that stores the default boot runlevel? drawing a total blank trying to think of it
[20:18] <RyanPrior> zcat[1]: Installing in graphical mode can take a long time and be frustrating.
[20:18] <randorfer> MisterChief 24
[20:18] <Skitt> xerxes1358, normally yes
[20:18] <zcat[1]> kr00l: yes, I've done installs that way in the past.. usually you need to reconfigure X afterwards, but otherwise it works really well
[20:18] <usr13> kr00l: try Ctrl-Alt-F1    and then do:  less /proc/cpuinfo
[20:18] <TigranG> jinxed-: logout and click sessions, and choose the one that says terminal (forgot exact name)
[20:18] <jinxed-> ok
[20:18] <usr13> kr00l: and then:  lspci
[20:18] <xerxes1358> Skitt, what should I see ?
[20:18] <RyanPrior> xerxes1358: Yes, Ubuntu should automatically recognize and mount your USB drive.
[20:19] <jgoo> I have an app (blender 2.45) that just dies immediately when I do something... which logs could I look at to find out why?
[20:19] <eckesicle> Okay time for me to go to bed. Goodnight all.
[20:19] <jgoo> it could be graphic card driver
[20:19] <usr13> kr00l: [press ENTER after commands]
[20:19] <Jaymac> has anyone got a working XGL/Compiz setup with DirectRendering (ATI card)
[20:19] <unknown512> randorfer, if you are still here, i would like to thank you so much =D its all better now
[20:19] <kr00l> zcat[1] / usr13: nothing, i'll get more ram for it
[20:19] <RyanPrior> xerxes1358: It should show up in Places -> Computer, and it should pop up a folder on your desktop when you plug it in.
[20:19] <Jaymac> installed a few games via wine and they all complain about xfree86-dri
[20:19] <kr00l> zcat[1] / usr13: or try DSL
[20:19] <randorfer> unknown512 your welcome ;-) glad it worked out for yo
[20:19] <randorfer> u
[20:19] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: yea i tried that doesnt have any files in the home folder nor root
[20:19] <MisterChief> randorfer: it says at the bottom now: "xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20081015201810" then underneath is the normal terminal command prompt
[20:19] <xerxes1358> And what if the USB drive doesnt show up?
[20:19] <unknown512> now i just gotta install wine and im good to go, and i know how to do that
[20:20] <Skitt> xerxes1358,
[20:20] <zcat[1]> kr00l: something like feather or puppy or dsl might suit you better. xubuntu should run in that memory too..
[20:20] <unknown512> i am going to connect to IRC through the linux computer now
[20:20] <unknown512> bye
[20:20] <randorfer> MisterChief type gnome-session at the command prompt
[20:20] <Skitt> xerxes1358, does it appear in lsusb ?
[20:20] <RyanPrior> !google | Jaymac
[20:20] <ubotu> Jaymac: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[20:20] <zcat[1]> .. just the live installer won't run so well in it
[20:20] <xerxes1358> No I dont think so
[20:20] <randorfer> MisterChief and cross your fingers
[20:20] <kr00l> zcat[1] / usr13: what about koppix
[20:20] <mhiku> how to install default font for tightvnc to work?
[20:20] <Jaymac> RyanPrior, thanks for your patronism, and yes I have checked google
[20:20] <RyanPrior> kr00l: Xubuntu will install better if you use the Alternate Install CD.
[20:20] <Skitt> xerxes1358, do you think or do you know? ^^
[20:21] <zcat[1]> not sure where knoppix is at these days..
[20:21] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, it ends up in /home/yourname/PDF
[20:21] <xerxes1358> Skitt, I am not sure Let me paste it
[20:21] <MisterChief> randorfer: "(gnome-session:6324): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:"
[20:21] <jgoo> ok so I found out blender is segfaulting...where could the core dump be?
[20:21] <RyanPrior> kr00l: I have personally used the Alternate Install CD to install Xubuntu on old laptops before. Once it's installed, it runs well.
[20:21] <Lr5___> What's the http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ targeted for? Can it be used as a general paste bin, or should it be used only if needed here?
[20:21] <nekohayo> hey there, anyone knows how to change the keyboard layout used in the TTY consoles?
[20:21] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: that directory is missing i'll create it
[20:21] <randorfer> MisterCheif try restarting the comp
[20:21] <kr00l> zcat[1] / usr13: the terminal came up on my screen what should i do?
[20:21] <MisterChief> randorfer: okay
[20:21] <RyanPrior> Jaymac: That's an important first step. It looks like there's a lot of information about XFree86-dri out there. What specific problem are you having?
[20:21] <usr13> kr00l: lspci
[20:22] <usr13> kr00l: [ENTER]
[20:22] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, no need to. Type instead lpstat
[20:22] <MisterChief> Hoping for the best :D
[20:22] <xerxes1358> Skitt, http://pastebin.org/14150
[20:22] <RyanPrior> jgoo: That's a good question for #blender
[20:22] <Jaymac> RyanPrior, any 3d games will not work when I have XGL running - seems to be a problem for many people.. Error message: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[20:22] <usr13> kr00l:  And, tell us what video card you have.
[20:23] <RyanPrior> Jaymac: Does that mean they work better when you don't have XGL running?
[20:23] <jinxed-> TigranG, I did what you said... but I am still stuck in 800 x 600
[20:23] <Jaymac> RyanPrior, they work.
[20:23] <jgoo> RyanPrior: ah so it is different per app? ok. I am asking there too - I thought it could be somewhere ubuntu specific
[20:23] <MisterChief> randorfer: back to the "Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode"
[20:23] <MisterChief> :(
[20:24] <KinPumpkinKing> I'm plugging my mp5 in my USB but nothing happens. how do I manage the files in it?
[20:24] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, still there?
[20:24] <RhinoAK> I have a nubee question
[20:24] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: yea
[20:24] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: didnt help
[20:24] <eckesicle> type lpstat
[20:24] <RyanPrior> Jaymac: In that case, it sounds like a bug with XGL. I've had lots of problems with XGL too, so I stopped usingit.
[20:24] <aro> Anyone want to suggest a PCMCIA wireless card (802.11g) for a 5 year old laptop that has been proven to work with Ubuntu reliably?
[20:24] <eckesicle> what do you see?
[20:24] <RhinoAK> how do you start x from command line
[20:24] <randorfer> MisterChief:  try editing the xorg.conf file -- nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changing where it says ati to vesa
[20:24] <eckesicle> RhinoAK, startx
[20:24] <RyanPrior> RhinoAK: startx
[20:25] <Palthron> quick yes-no-faster-than-googling question : does the trash icon and context menu reflect the trash directory from USB Flash Drive?
[20:25] <RyanPrior> RhinoAK: I know, you never would have guessed. =P
[20:25] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: http://pastebin.com/d5ab8794c
[20:25] <ompaul> !ask | RhinoAK
[20:25] <jinxed-> TigranG, you there?
[20:25] <kr00l> zcat[1] / usr13: it's a ram problem, thanks for all your help. I got Koppix working. I'll have to order more ram online. 512 will work right?
[20:25] <ubotu> RhinoAK: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:25] <RyanPrior> Palthron: If you want quick answers, you're going to have to ask understandable questions.
[20:25] <jinxed-> eckesicle, what was that link you gave me with how to do dual monitor?
[20:25] <Skitt> xerxes1358, whats the output of dmesg after pluging the device in
[20:26] <GHOST> is anyone know why the flash player ofenly crash ty?
[20:26] <isotop`> how do i change a uuid for a block device?
[20:26] <nosmofui> how can i see the pictures when a want to upload them from firefix in gnome??
[20:26] <isotop`> i have 2 block devices with the same uuid
[20:26] <randorfer> Ghost check the topic of this channel, its broken for ubuntu atm
[20:26] <MisterChief> randorfer: changed, how to save and exit?
[20:26] <Palthron> RyanPrior : The trash icon on the desktop show that it is empty when it is actually contained deleted items from a removable drive. Is this normal behaviour?
[20:26] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, when you type lpstat what do you see? can you paste the output here for me
[20:26] <dgjones> !hcl | aro, this is probably your best bet on finding the right hardware, I use two Belkin pcmcia cards, one is atheros based, the other is broadcom 4306, the atheros works out of the box, the other works perfectly with about 3 mouse clicks using restricted drivers
[20:26] <ubotu> aro, this is probably your best bet on finding the right hardware, I use two Belkin pcmcia cards, one is atheros based, the other is broadcom 4306, the atheros works out of the box, the other works perfectly with about 3 mouse clicks using restricted drivers: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[20:26] <GHOST> randorfer ok thank you
[20:26] <randorfer> MisterCheif ctrl + x
[20:26] <RhinoAK> thanks ubotu:
[20:27] <eckesicle> jinxed-, I googled for ubuntu dual monitor
[20:27] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: no output
[20:27] <aro> Thankd dgjones
[20:27] <RyanPrior> Palthron: The trashed items on the removable drive should be stored in its top-level .trash folder
[20:27] <Lifeisfunny> my USB stick is labeled disk, how can I change it to USB-stick  or something?
[20:27] <MisterChief> randorfer: same file name?
[20:27] <Trae> man
[20:27] <randorfer> MisterChief yep
[20:27] <RyanPrior> Lifeisfunny: With GParted, I think. Give it a new disk label.
[20:27] <Trae> my machine has come to a screeching halt
[20:27] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, what is this a paste of?
[20:27] <Lifeisfunny> RyanPrior, thanks, I'll try it
[20:28] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle:  tail /var/log/messages
[20:28] <MisterChief> randorfer: "error writing /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Permission Denied
[20:28] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, it is perfectly normal
[20:28] <RhinoAK> none of the commands suggested work
[20:28] <Palthron> RyanPrior : Yes the trash folder is there and working as it should, but the icon and context menu on the desktop and taskbar always show the wrong state (Empty icon and 'Empty Trash' option disabled when it actually contain files and available only through Nautilus
[20:28] <RhinoAK> I'm using 6.06 LTS
[20:28] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: i have to do a reboot for sys updates so i'll be right back
[20:28] <randorfer> alright we forgot to do sudo, so do ctrl + x and say no to saving then do sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace ati with vesa again
[20:29] <RyanPrior> Palthron: That might be a bug. Report it in Launchpad.
[20:29] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, but you see nothing at all when you type lpstat? very strange. If you go to System->Admin->Printing
[20:29] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, no hurry to reboot
[20:29] <RhinoAK> I'm sudo
[20:29] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, what printers do you see?
[20:29] <Palthron> RyanPrior : Will do. Thank you.
[20:29] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: yea i see pdf
[20:29] <mboman> when I try to modprobe usb-storage the prompt just hangs (Ubuntu 7.10 fully up-to-date)
[20:29] <MisterChief> randorfer: done
[20:29] <eckesicle> okay but nothing when you type lpstat in the terminal window?
[20:29] <randorfer> now try restarting again
[20:30] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: yea i see but i cant change anything since it wants a password and it refuses to allow any pass i enter
[20:30] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, nothing is working
[20:30] <randorfer> MisterChief and make sure you cross your fingers this time
[20:30] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, it is your root password
[20:30] <isotop`> how do i solve a uuid conflict?
[20:30] <Trae> I originally had Ubuntu 7.10 plain (gnome)  and installed KDE packages ... is there a way I can just remove all the KDE stuff I think it's bogging my system down (and have GDM launch etc)
[20:30] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, im sorry i don't know what to suggest. Sorry I could not be of more help
[20:31] <n6hgg> Thorsten11: might take a little google digging to find out how to install them.
[20:31] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, do you know your root password?
[20:31] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: doesnt accept it yes i use it daily
[20:31] <randorfer> nuckinfuts what is your problem??
[20:31] <Sooz> hello
[20:31] <MisterChief> randorfer: back to the "Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode"
[20:31] <TigranG> jinxed-: Sorry. I was afk
[20:32] <randorfer> MisterChief Gah! Sorry mate but I don't know what to tell you at this point
[20:32] <Sooz> please can any1 help me? I lost grub due to a wxp installation
[20:32] <Sooz> how can i get it back
[20:32] <Sooz> ?
[20:32] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, now in both runlevel 5 and 3, screen goes black where gdm should kick in(even in runlevel 3 somehow)
[20:32] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, and this is in the printing dialogue?
[20:32] <TigranG> jinxed-: are you using the restricted driver or open source
[20:32] <napsy_> Hello. I have an intel HD audio chip on my laptop and when I plug the headphones the laptop speakers don't mute. How can I fix this?
[20:32] <xerxes1358> Skitt, http://pastebin.org/14151
[20:32] <randorfer> nuckinfuts you have gdm in your initd scrpits right?
[20:33] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: yes
[20:33] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, this is a fresh install from Alternate install CD, LiveCD had the same issue, im currently sitting at a runlevel 1 recovery prompt
[20:33] <RhinoAK> sorry I have the 6.0 server version running LAMP
[20:33] <randorfer> nuckingfuts what happens when you type gnome-session
[20:33] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, i'd assume so since i haven't changed them
[20:33] <eckesicle> napsy_, it is a bit silly but that is the default set up in ubuntu. You can mute the speakers by doubleclicking on the top bar the volume icon. and then muting front speakers
[20:33] <Sooz> somebody can help me please?
[20:33] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, okay that is very weird.
[20:33] <RhinoAK> I don't think X11 is supported when LAMP is turned on
[20:34] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, "GTK-warning **: cannot open display"
[20:34] <randorfer> nuckinfuts are you root right now?
[20:34] <napsy_> eckesicle: if I mute the front the sound on the headphones mute as well
[20:34] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, yes
[20:34] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: yes i agree ive never seen this before
[20:34] <randorfer> nuckinfuts try su yournormaluser
[20:35] <RhinoAK> Is there another way for me to run the desktop manager
[20:35] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, i don't have a darn clue why it does that. But at least you can see the name of the printer? Set the PDF printer to the default one then
[20:35] <randorfer> nuckinfuts then gnome-session
[20:35] <xerxes1358> Skitt, and anything new you can see ?
[20:35] <eckesicle> napsy_, there should be a tab called Switches
[20:35] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, same error
[20:35] <eckesicle> napsy_, go there and click in headphones
[20:36] <gordon> I have a shell script which runs an interactive command line program, how do I make a desktop shortcut open a terminal to run said program?
[20:36] <napsy_> eckesicle: in the Switches tab I have "IEC985", "Caller ID" and "Off-hook"
[20:36] <Wh00p> http://bruhhe.myminicity.com/ind tyvm (:
[20:36] <randorfer> nuckinfuts eckesicle already had you redo your xorg.conf file right?
[20:36] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, then try echo "test" > test.txt; lp test.txt
[20:36] <eckesicle> randorfer, no. he's on live cd
[20:36] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, no but i checked it, it was originally loading the nv driver, i switched it to vesa with no difference
[20:36] <trx> eckesicle, or just echo "test" | lp
[20:37] <eckesicle> trx: even better. cheers
[20:37] <randorfer> nuckinfuts try doing sudo Xorg -configure
[20:37] <trx> np :)
[20:37] <eltux> I'm installing ubuntu on the computer next to me with the alternative cd and I'm on the part for select and install software and its just hanging on 6% and it says Please wait. I've waited for 15 minutes now and it hasn't moved
[20:37] <FLUXxXx> Hello! Can anyone tell me more possible NMAP usage examples? For instance: "how to see which hosts are UP on your lan", "how to find out what OS a host runs on", "how to see which hosts on your lan have port 556 opnened (possible trojan)" and so on? I don't need the nmap options 'cause i'll find those in nmap man page. I just want scenarios using NMAP. PLEASE. Thank you!
[20:37] <eckesicle> napsy_, i don't know then. sorry
[20:37] <randorfer> nuckingfuts then sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[20:37] <lostsanity> hi, i was here a bit ago asking about a bunch of seemingly random freezes i was getting, but nothing was really solved.. anyone feel like trying again?
[20:37] <eckesicle> Goodnight all
[20:37] <lostsanity> night
[20:38] <randorfer> nuckingfuts then sudo mv ~/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restarting
[20:38] <corinth> I installed Kubuntu using sudo aptitude kubuntu-desktop, don't like it. How do I remove all of the packages it installed?
[20:38] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, ok done, im assuming you want me to test it?
[20:38] <randorfer> nuckinfuts yep
[20:39] <eltux> lots of help you guys are today.........
[20:39] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, OKAY! something new, i have the test screen up, mouse moves around, i'll try rebooting runlevel 5
[20:39] <quinton_> Only 2 speakers and the subwoofer are playing from my logitech 5.1 speakers help please!
[20:40] <randorfer> nuckinfuts exciting lol
[20:40] <chuy> How do I identify the proper root or chainloader of my SATA drive?
[20:40] <quinton_> Only 2 speakers and the subwoofer are playing from my logitech 5.1 speakers help please!
[20:40] <xerxes1358> Skitt, you there ?
[20:40] <alsadk10> how to installing skystar2 on ubuntu?
[20:41] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, lol yea, im switching to ubuntu cuz my Fedora 8 install up and lost all of the driver modules for both kernels i had... and bootup failed
[20:41] <prakriti> will there get geforce 8800gt support in ubuntu any time soon?
[20:41] <Skitt> xerxes1358, sry, was afk for a moment ... looks like your os isn't recognizing that there's anything plugged in ... did you connect the power suply (if one) or tried another usb-port?
[20:41] <nuckinfuts> prakriti lol im going through getting my 8600GT sli working right now
[20:41] <nickrud> prakriti, highly unlikely till next release, in april
[20:42] <randorfer> nuckinfuts:  the fedora bootup failed or this bootup failed
[20:42] <Berto-MediaPC> Hi - On my 7.10 system, my wireless doesn't auto-start unless I re-enter my WPA password each time
[20:42] <Berto-MediaPC> Is there a fix?
[20:42] <prakriti> thanks, i'll just download the nvidia driver
[20:42] <quinton_> Only 2 speakers and the subwoofer are playing from my logitech 5.1 speakers help please!
[20:42] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, this one, black screen again, fedora got erased to put ubuntu on
[20:42] <MisterChief> Hang on, I tried this: rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity    but it didn't work, I went back to Ctrl Alt F7 and it still was in low graphics
[20:42] <Eyemean> hi there, is there a way to find out the ip address of a person who is using amsn messenger pls?
[20:42] <chuy> How do I identify the proper root or chainloader of my SATA drive?
[20:43] <xerxes1358> Skitt, Yes I did already. But I can see that there is a message that says that the system sees a USB drive connected to the system
[20:43] <alsadk10> how to installing skystar2 on ubuntu?
[20:43] <quinton_> Only 2 speakers and the subwoofer are playing from my logitech 5.1 speakers help please!
[20:43] <randorfer> nuckinfuts you have a pm
[20:43] <eltux> I'm installing ubuntu on the computer next to me with the alternative cd and I'm on the part for select and install software and its just hanging on 6% and it says Please wait. I've waited for 15 minutes now and it hasn't moved
[20:43] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, i do?
[20:43] <Skitt> xerxes1358, where do you see the message?
[20:44] <xTheGoat121x> Greetings
[20:44] <xerxes1358> Skitt, http://pastebin.org/14152
[20:44] <alsadk10> eltux: make swap first
[20:44] <randorfer> nuckinfuts, .join #nuck
[20:45] <chuy> Is there a command to see the list of disks?
[20:45] <nuckinfuts> .join #nuck
[20:45] <matthew_> is the repo version of flashplugin-nonfree STILL brokeN?
[20:45] <randorfer> nuckinftus /join #nuck
[20:45] <chuy> as in hd0, hd1, etc
[20:45] <lostsanity> aha. i now see what's eating my resources and most likely crashing me
[20:45] <pavel_> yes, it's still broken.
[20:45] <Eyemean> quinton, only 4 of my speakers and sub working, i think u need to double click on volume contral icon, select preferences and tick four channel mode
[20:45] <lostsanity> "gtk-gnash" what is that?
[20:45] <pavel_> tried it today.
[20:45] <steveire> Are there standing issues installing ubuntu in dual boot with vista? I remember reading about some back when vista was released.
[20:45] <lostsanity> and how do i get rid of it?..
[20:45] <MisterChief> I tried doing what it says on this site, but nothing changes: http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[20:45] <RyanPrior> chuy: lspci
[20:46] <nickrud> !info gnash | lostsanity
[20:46] <ubotu> lostsanity: gnash: free SWF movie player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 234 kB, installed size 828 kB
[20:46] <eltux> alsadk10: so your telling me I should manually partition?
[20:46] <RyanPrior> chuy: ls /dev | grep hd
[20:46] <alsadk10> how to installing skystar2 on ubuntu?
[20:46] <pavel_> you should try manual flash install from adobe's site.
[20:46] <Vaksy> Hi. I just installed ubuntu 7.10 on LGr405 and after boot there's no picture. Some suggestions how to proceed?
[20:46] <alsadk10>  eltux: yes first make partition as linux-swap
[20:47] <RyanPrior> Vaksy: No picture. What is there?
[20:47] <lostsanity> pavel_: ok, i thought i couldn't do that on the 64 bit ubuntu?
[20:47] <pavel_> vaksy - your graphics card is probably a nvidia
[20:47] <Skitt> xerxes1358, yeah, there are 2 usb-devices. one you removed and the "X10 Wireless Technology, Inc."
[20:47] <Borat> Hey guys, does anyone know how i can change the ubuntu icon with a gnome foot icon on my menu? I have replaced all the distributor icons in the entire filesystem but it still shows the ubuntu icon... Thanks
[20:47] <Arelis_> How do i install the Dutch language into KDE?
[20:47] <Vaksy> pavel_: ati radeon Xpress 1250
[20:47] <ompaul> !bootoptions | Vaksy
[20:47] <ubotu> Vaksy: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[20:47] <pavel_> lostsanity, sorry, i'm on x86... didn't know that
[20:47] <j0kEr> hello
[20:48] <j0kEr> who are you?
[20:48] <ompaul> !hello | j0kEr
[20:48] <ubotu> j0kEr: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[20:48] <pavel_> what's the point of installing a x64 version anyway? are you a datacenter?
[20:48] <Skitt> xerxes1358, and i dont think the "X10 Wireless Technology, Inc." is your storage-device
[20:48] <Nomikos> what happened to the ftp service in Gutsy?
[20:48] <nickrud> MisterChief, log out of gnome, clt-alt-f1 , sudo killall gconf2-d , then delete those directories he mentions
[20:48] <j0kEr> but where are you from???
[20:48] <j0kEr> i m italian!
[20:48] <j0kEr> :)
[20:48] <ompaul> !offtopic | j0kEr
[20:48] <ubotu> j0kEr: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:48] <zaktuv> need some help on partitioning Ubunutu 6.06.1 LTS
[20:49] <lostsanity> nope.. honestly, i don't know. i'm entirely new to linux, and it asked what kind of processor i had not which one i wanted >>
[20:49] <j0kEr> sorry I don t understand soo much
[20:49] <RyanPrior> !it | j0kEr
[20:49] <j0kEr> bye
[20:49] <ubotu> j0kEr: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:49] <steveire> Fast moving channel. Anyone know about dual boot with vista?
[20:49] <chuy> RyanPrior: THANKS brb, need to reboot.
[20:49] <pavel_> x64 mostly means driver problems, i'd say
[20:49] <j0kEr> grazie ubotu!
[20:49] <alsadk10> من يتكلم عربي؟
[20:49] <pavel_> give the classic i386 version a shot
[20:49] <ompaul> !sa | alsadk10
[20:49] <ubotu> alsadk10: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa
[20:49] <nickrud> !sa | alsadk10
[20:50] <pavel_> it will work on your hardware as well.
[20:50] <xerxes1358> Skitt, how about this link: http://pastebin.org/14156
[20:50] <alsadk10> thx
[20:50] <lostsanity> alright. is there any way to do that that isn't a total pain in the ass or do i pretty much have to start over again?
[20:50] <nickrud> !dualboot | steveire
[20:50] <ubotu> steveire: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[20:50] <zaktuv> I am trying to partition a 1 TB on a HP DL380 server
[20:51] <pavel_> hm, i think you should do a clean install. if you haven't done much with your install it shouldnt be too painful
[20:51] <RB2> Hi everyone. I have a small problem. I installed the extra screen-savers from the repository via apt-get and was browsing through them in the Screensavers Settings and I hit one that HW locks my PC, even in the Preview. So, I can't change it via the GUI.
[20:51] <pavel_> otherwise just backup your stuff and start over
[20:51] <RyanPrior> RB2: screensavers need to die.
[20:52] <RB2> What file holds the screensaver selection?
[20:52] <lostsanity> okay, well i'm off to do that then, thanks for the help
[20:52] <pavel_> good luck with the install
[20:52] <RB2> RyanPrior, lol... the biggest problem is that Synaptic doesn't see the package I installed. So, I can't uninstall it. I don't remember the package name.
[20:52] <Skitt> xerxes1358, there's something which was connected and got disconnected (line 9 and 12) and there is another connected thing (line 13) which is your wireless controler
[20:53] <RB2> I know it was xxxx-glx but when I search for that, I just get the NVidia drivers and such.
[20:53] <nickrud> RB2,  run   gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/gnome-screensaver , that should reset you to defaults
[20:53] <matthew_> trying to install flash manually.  It says to give the installation path for Mozilla, Netscape, or Opera browser and uses /usr/lib/mozilla as an example.  Except that doesn't work for me.
[20:53] <Vaksy> ompaul: not much of help?
[20:53] <RB2> nickrud, Thanks!
[20:54] <RyanPrior> RB2: I'll bet it was rss-glx, the "really slick screensavers" package.
[20:54] <steveire> nickrud: Do you dualboot with vista? Do you know anymore about the "Master boot record and boot manager" section. Does it apply only if you repair your mbr or in all cases?
[20:54] <pavel_> matthew, i think it should be YOUR_PROFILE/mozilla something
[20:54] <RB2> nickrud, Just the SS settings, correct?
[20:54] <Skitt> matthew_, tried /usr/lib/firefox ?
[20:54] <timnik> Hi *, What's the recommended virtualization technology for running Windows on Ubuntu? vmware, xen, kvm, virtualbox or other?
[20:54] <nickrud> RB2, yes, that's only the screensaver stuff
[20:54] <RB2> RyanPrior, it wasn't that short of a package name. I'll have to investigate further.
[20:54] <matthew_> Skitt:  i don't use firefox, i use epiphany.  i tried /usr/lib/epiphany and that didn't work.
[20:54] <ompaul> Vaksy - the vga 771 part or some other numbers in there close by may help
[20:55] <nickrud> steveire, i'd need a link to what you're reading
[20:55] <pavel_> /home/matthew/epiphany
[20:55] <nickrud> steveire, oh, duh :)
[20:55] <MisterChief> Is there a way to reset every setting to the default of the system?
[20:55] <steveire> nickrud:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[20:55] <RB2> nickrud, Thank you, thank you, thank you.. you're a life saver. :)
[20:55] <kdehead_> my flash player is in /home/justin/.mozilla/plugins/
[20:55] <PurpZeY> MisterChief: Clean install?
[20:55] <RhinoAK> Thanks for the help folks
[20:55] <kdehead_> ubuntu gutsy here
[20:55] <eltux> timnik: I've heard good things about virtualbox and vmware yet I haven't fully tested them myself on ubuntu. I know vmware runs great on windows :)
[20:55] <RyanPrior> I feel bad for the Arabic guy who was in here a sec ago. #ubuntu-sa is really empty.
[20:56] <MisterChief> PurpZeY: I think so, I want to keep all of my /home files, just the gdm settings
[20:56] <RyanPrior> kdehead_: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:56] <timnik> eltux, thanks :-)
[20:56] <simu> hello, im looking for a graph plotting program with png export
[20:56] <pavel_> well, i think, for the majority of people on this channel english is the second language
[20:56] <kdehead_> there's no need to install the kubuntu desktop in order to get flash to work
[20:56] <PurpZeY> MisterChief: I am not entirely sure how to do it, but I have people saying they just make a partition w/ their home dir then reinstall and mount it
[20:56] <eltux> timnik: np, that's what we're here for
[20:56] <nickrud> steveire, that would apply if for any reason you reinstalled windows after installing ubuntu, or wrote to the master boot record using a windows recovery/repair utilitity
[20:56] <RyanPrior> simu: You can use kplot and take screen shots.
[20:56] <pavel_> so why feeling sorry
[20:56] <RyanPrior> simu: You could also use Octave I think, but it's a lot scarier to learn.
[20:57] <amber__> i had a problem with my rather new ubuntu install earlyer... my monitor shut off after 10 minutes as i had set it to do, but the keyboard and mouse couldnt get it out of it again.. happened twice in a row, and prevented now by setting screen shutdown off for the moment
[20:57] <amber__> anyone knows what that might be? the mouse still had light in it, so was not turned off as well
[20:57] <RB2> nickrud, Is there anyplace I can see what was installed by apt-get today? Those were the only packages I installed.
[20:57] <Borat> Does anyone know how to change the Ubuntu Icon On the menu to the GNome-Foot?
[20:57] <MisterChief> I would just like everything reset but keep the /home/andy files exactly as they were
[20:57] <Vaksy> ill try
[20:58] <RyanPrior> simu: If you're a Python programmer, there's a python graphing utility that you could probably coax to give png output.
[20:58] <toni_> someone knows if there is an enemy territories channel?
[20:58] <ConstyXIV> evolution, thunderbird, or other?
[20:58] <steveire> nickrud: OK. So when I get my new computer I'll resize the vista partition, then install ubuntu. That'll install grub. If I reinstall/repair windows (or there's a 'security' update or something) it will replace grub with a vista bootloader which should work just as well?
[20:58] <eltux> constyXIV: I like thunderbird myself :)
[20:59] <pavel_> better resize it with something other than the ubuntu installer.
[20:59] <simu> RyanPrior: I will take the solution using screenshots (of lybniz) thanks
[20:59] <kdehead_> steveire:  not a chance.  the windows bootloader will always replace grub.  thats microsoft for you.
[20:59] <ssam> simu, there is a bug in gutsys lybniz that makes saving to png not work
[20:59] <nickrud> RB2, not that I'm sure of.
[20:59] <slugone> ive got a 64bit install and i cant seem to open or use Gnash SWF viewer any ideas
[20:59] <kdehead_> but for security updates to vista you should be ok.
[20:59] <simu> ssam: oh ok
[21:00] <eltux> kdehead_: not if you install vista first, grub will take over after you install ubuntu
[21:00] <simu> ssam: I was already wondering ;-p
[21:00] <pavel_> why a x64 install? the primary question ;)
[21:00] <ssam> simu, but you can get 1.3.2 from sourceforge
[21:00] <eltux> kdehead_: I've done it with flawless results
[21:00] <steveire> kdehead_: When will the vista bootloader replace grub? First boot after installing ubuntu?
[21:00] <simu> ssam: ok thank you. maybe I find a deb package
[21:00] <unknown513> Hey randorfer, if your still there, i need help with GStreamer, i cant hear any sound, i installed all the plugins, and it says there isnt any on there
[21:00] <RB2> nickrud, thanks
[21:00] <nickrud> steveire, the bit about the vista boot loader is something new to me, but it appears that with proper config it will. You can also repair grub, see !grub for instructions
[21:00] <kdehead_> steveire - no.  only if you need to reinstall vista again.
[21:01] <ssam> simu, the one from debian should work on ubuntu
[21:01] <whitegulls> does anyone know how to change a hauppage pvr-150 to the composite-in settings?
[21:01] <steveire> kdehead_: OK, so what I said above was correct?
[21:01] <slugone> i cant get gnash swf viewer to open or work ...i got a 64bit install any ideas
[21:01] <steveire> nickrud: OK. So when I get my new computer I'll resize the vista partition, then install ubuntu. That'll install grub. If I reinstall/repair windows (or there's a 'security' update or something) it will replace grub with a vista bootloader which should work just as well?
[21:01] <ZiNC2^6> Doesn't Ubuntu works as a readonly OS from the CD, and not only as a pre-install environment?
[21:01] <eltux> steverie: if you install ubuntu last, grub will take place of the vista boot loader and You'll be fine
[21:01] <steveire> nickrud: OK. cheers
[21:01] <ssam> simu, http://packages.debian.org/lybniz
[21:01] <kdehead_> steverie -> yeah..  if you install ubuntu AFTER vista, you'll be fine. grub will take over.
[21:02] <steveire> eltux: That seems to be no different to the XP scenario.
[21:02] <nickrud> RB2, I'm sure there's a method, but I use aptitude which keeps a log I know about
[21:02] <unknown513> I need help with GStreamer, i have the packages installed, but it wont let me hear anything, and it says there are no plugins installed
[21:02] <steveire> eltux: As that seems to be the case, I don't see why it merits special note anywhere.
[21:02] <eltux> steverie: really it isn't. if you triple boot, you have to install xp then vista and then ubuntu :D
[21:02] <RB2> nickrud, I just went into /var/cache/apt and took a peak and found the package names.
[21:03] <mame> Hi is there a good alternative to GNOME desktop that is also as freindly?
[21:03] <unknown513> I can't hear any sound please help :-(
[21:03] <rgnr> */bin/sh: wxrc: not found
[21:03] <eltux> steveire: its confusing at first but after you've done it, its really not anymore
[21:03] <kdehead_> mame ->  KDE.  its even more windowsy...
[21:03] <nickrud> RB2, the download time/date is not always indicative, but often is :)
[21:03] <rgnr> help
[21:03] <toni_> mame kde xfce
[21:03] <ZiNC2^6> mame: KDE is the other big one.
[21:03] <unknown513> I can't hear any sound please help :-(
[21:04] <ZiNC2^6> Is it possible to get extensive OS features straight from the CD without installation?
[21:04] <nickrud> mame, kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop in order of attempt at user-friendlyness
[21:04] <mame> I should give it a try
[21:04] <RB2> nickrud, yeah, the date was completely wrong, BUT I just needed to be reminded. As soon as I saw them, I knew which ones they were. Thanks again
[21:04] <steveire> eltux: I've been using ubuntu for ~2 years. I'm only confused because I'm getting a new laptop with vista :)
[21:04] <kdehead_> name ->  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   will install it.  you'll get a choice of either Gnome or KDE on the splash screen if you pick "Session" (i think) in the bottom left.
[21:04] <simu> ssam: thank you
[21:04] <unknown513> I can't hear any sound please help :-(
[21:05] <toni_> unknown513, you get some errors?
[21:05] <Strangework> Hallo guys, does anyone here know of an alternative chat client that supports AIM video chat?
[21:05] <eid> i want to login to swat interface, i succeeded but i can't get the needed buttons like share ?
[21:05] <forest> I just installed text-only Ubuntu using al alternate CD. Now how do I get to full desktop Ubuntu? Is it just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[21:05] <eltux> steveire: really, vista isn't useable. I prefer xp over vista myself. Enjoy your new laptop, you should be able to dual boot without any problems
[21:05] <nickrud> steveire, heck, then just copy over vista
[21:05] <xerxes1358> How do I manually mount a USB drive ?
[21:05] <unknown513> toni, yes it says i dont have GStreamer plugins installed
[21:05] <mame> Does linux have a way to clear freespace on a computer? Also does it have a pagefile like windows?
[21:05] <kdehead_> steveire -> i wiped vista off my new laptop and just went with a fresh ubuntu install.    vista sucks ass. big time.
[21:05] <toni_> forest, yes i do in that way
[21:05] <jikuty> anyone know of a really good Vista/Ubuntu7.10 dualbooting guide? i looked through google for a guide, but none of them are very detailed...
[21:05] <eltux> kdehead_: xD yep
[21:05] <forest> toni_ ok, i'll do it
[21:05] <nickrud> !install | jikuty it's automatic
[21:05] <ubotu> jikuty it's automatic: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[21:05] <rgnr> ppl help here!
[21:05] <rgnr> * /bin/sh: wxrc: not found
[21:05] <Delvien> Is there a way to turn off icons from your desktop
[21:06] <toni_> Delvien, in gnome?
[21:06] <unknown513> I can't hear any sound please help :-(
[21:06] <Delvien> yerp
[21:06] <Delvien> toni_ yeah, in gconf-editor atm, cant find the option
[21:06] <jikuty> well, im kind of confused with this partitioning.. some guides have you allocate free space in Vista, others tell you to let Ubuntu installer handle it
[21:06] <Nomikos> what happened to the ftp service in Gutsy?
[21:06] <toni_> unknown513,  apt-cache searcg gstreamer | grep plugin
[21:06] <toni_> undertherift, then isntall the one you need
[21:06] <unknown513> where do i type that?
[21:06] <Nomikos> I can't seem to run/install/enable/use ftp?
[21:06] <nickrud> Delvien, gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop , uncheck that
[21:07] <jlulian38> hurf durf, I'm trying to mount an NFS partition from a second computer, (like I've already mounted it on another) and I'm getting like "corrupted filesystem" error
 http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first
[21:07] <toni_> unknown513,  terminal
[21:07] <zcat[1]> jikuty: 'personal preference' -- it really doesn't matter :)
[21:07] <Delvien> nickrud nice, thanks
[21:07] <jlulian38> "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on <IP_ADDRESS>:/home/jlulian38/store/"
[21:07] <jikuty> eid: that's with 7.04
[21:07] <nickrud> jikuty, if I had the option to redo, I'd resize in vista
[21:07] <toni_> lol i have too many partitions!
[21:07] <toni_> damn
[21:07] <jikuty> eid: and when I tried that method, the installer gave me the error that there are too many primary partitions...
[21:08] <toni_> jikuty,  the same for me now :)
[21:08] <kdehead_> Nomikos ->  you tried typing "ftp" from the command line?
 http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_firs
[21:08] <toni_> jikuty,  you can have just 4 primary partitions, you have to delete one
[21:08] <Strangework> Hallo guys, does anyone here know of an alternative chat client that supports AIM video chat?
[21:08] <Nomikos> kdehead_: I tried various variations on apt=get install ftpd
[21:08] <jikuty> hmm.. the problem is I don't know which to delete :D
[21:09] <nickrud> !ftpd | Nomikos
[21:09] <ubotu> Nomikos: FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[21:09] <Nomikos> kdehead_: it used to be system/admin/services?
 i used dual boot {XP+ Feisty }, i don't have any idea about vista
[21:09] <toni_> jikuty, i got this error now that i resize the windows one, i'm gonna delete it :)
[21:09] <Nomikos> I tried installing proftpd as well, which tells me to "check my configuration¨
[21:09] <rgnr> !help
[21:09] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[21:09] <eltux> eid: its basically the same, install windows first, then ubuntu
[21:09] <kdehead_> nomikos -> probably was turned off in favour of sftp which is part of the openssl package.
[21:09] <nickrud> jikuty, use vista to shrink the windows partition, then tell the ubuntu installer to use all the free space
[21:09] <Nomikos> kdehead_: ah, that's a new one..
[21:10] <zcat[1]> last dual-boot of vista I was involved with, I think we treated it just like XP.. resize, install, reboot.. it seemed to work out OK too.
[21:10] <simu> ssam: it works!!!! great! im using it for my master theses!
[21:10] <kdehead_> nomikos -> bear in mind that when you use ftp your id and password is transmitted in plain text over the internet....   not a good thing to be doing.
[21:10] <Nomikos> kdehead_: could that also cause a reinstall of proftpd to fail?
[21:10] <eltux> eid: the only way it gets difficult is if you triple boot, then you would install xp then vista then ubuntu for example
[21:10] <eltux> :)
[21:10] <steveire> I don't plan to use vista. I'll keep it around as long as it's useful for comparison etc. It's good to have knowledge of systems you don't regularly use and don't box in to anything. Thanks for the advice nickrud kdehead_ eltux.
[21:10] <eid> I'm trying to login to swat with privileges allow share button to appear, my user account failed to do that :(
[21:10] <ezc> dual boot will work the same no matter what OS you are using, just configure your boot loader properly
[21:11] <Nomikos> kdehead_: I know, this is LAN only though
[21:11] <jikuty> vista shows to partitions with blank names and no filesystem... I don't know what the heck they are for
[21:11] <jikuty> i wonder if I should just delete one...
[21:11] <nickrud> steveire, yeah, it's kinda nice to have vista to boot into to examine stuff you're not sure about in ubuntu (heresy, I know)
[21:11] <unknown512> toni_if your still there, where do i type that thing it? my comp froze for a second
[21:11] <Strangework> Does anyone here know of an alternative chat client that supports AIM video chat?
[21:11] <rgnr> ppl dammit
[21:11] <jikuty> one is labelled "EISA Configuration"
[21:11] <rgnr> help
[21:11] <kdehead_> nomikos ->  try the openssl package instead.   that will allow you to use secure ftp (sftp) and ssh (secure terminal)
[21:11] <eltux> steverie: so true, your welcome. If I could get mac os x to run on this pc of mine properly I would be triple booting osx xp and ubuntu xD
[21:11] <rgnr> what is wxrc and where do i get it
[21:11] <nickrud> !ask rgnr
[21:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask rgnr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:12] <nickrud> !ask | rgnr
[21:12] <ubotu> rgnr: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
 do you have any idea about swat
[21:12] <eid> ?
[21:12] <unknown512> I can't hear any sound please help :-( i get an error saying i dont have the GStreamer plugins
[21:12] <rgnr> nickrud:  what is wxrc?
[21:12] <eltux> eid: swat? what's that?
[21:12] <flamsmark> hey, my integrated sound on a gigabyte ga n680i hasn't been detected on 7.10
[21:12] <zcat[1]>  .. and I think he might have DRdos somewhere too.. but not a windows in sightI have a friend that boots FreeBSD, OpenBSD and several linux distros
[21:12] <eth01> yeah, check nvidia
[21:13] <unknown512>  I can't hear any sound please help :-( i get an error saying i dont have the GStreamer plugins
[21:13] <zcat[1]> Ohh, hit home instead of del.. hope you can follow that
[21:13] <chuy> So, I have an IDE with ubuntu loaded on it, and a SATA with Windows. I got Ubuntu to mount the Windows drive, and i added it as (hd1,0) in my menu.lst, but I can't get GRUB to load it correctly. Not to mention, I can't get GRUB to interact graphically after loading gfxboot. The hell?
[21:13] <kdehead_> unknown52 -> you're better off putting you problem on the forums, as folks will want outputs from dmesg and lspci to determine your hardware and where the fault is.
[21:13] <nickrud> rgnr, I think it's some kind of config file used by wxwindows
[21:13] <eid> swat : samba web administration  tool
[21:13] <ssam> simu, thats cool, what subject
[21:13] <rgnr> nickrud:  wxwidgets
[21:13] <toni_> chuy,  where is grub installed?
[21:14] <unknown512> kdehead-> i dont think its my hardware, i think i just need the plugins
[21:14] <kdehead_> flamsmark ->  ga n680i  - is that a gateway laptop?
[21:14] <nickrud> rgnr, same library, yes
[21:14] <rgnr> nickrud:  wxrc -c -o res/xrc_resource.h res/*.xrc
[21:14] <rgnr> /bin/sh: wxrc: not found
[21:14] <rgnr> make: *** [res/xrc_resource.h] Error 127
[21:14] <chuy> toni_: /boot
[21:14] <eth01> kdehead, i'vew no idea.
[21:14] <nickrud> rgnr, or platform, anyway. A sec
[21:14] <kdehead_> unknown -> it might be hardware though.  big problems with new gateway laptops.  fixed in the kernel release for hardy heron.
[21:14] <flamsmark> no, that's a gigabyte mobo, kdehead
[21:14] <zcat[1]> anybody using 64-bit ubuntu and libdvdcss2? I can't play dvd's on this machine.. I swapped the dvd drive from another and had the same problem so I think it's software..
[21:14] <unknown512> kdehead-> well i have a Dell XPS 720
[21:14] <toni_> chuy_ i mean that it has to be installed in the mbr of the master, is the sata
[21:15] <unknown512> kdehead->with a creative soundcard
[21:15] <eltux> I'm installing ubuntu on the computer next to me with the alternative cd and I'm on the part where it says its installing the kernel and now its hanging
[21:15] <toni_> chuy,  i suppose....but i dunno how the sata works...
[21:15] <nickrud> rgnr, according to packages.ubuntu.com it's in the wx-common package
[21:15] <zcat[1]> it 'kinda' reads the disks but has all kinds of issues, as if the disk was damaged..
[21:15] <chuy> toni_: The IDE is the master, and it is installed on the IDE
[21:15] <chuy_> toni_, excuse me?
[21:15] <toni_> chuy, ok so it's really strange
[21:15] <kdehead_> unknown ->  post it on the forums.  and the output of lspci
[21:15] <toni_> chuy,  the boot sequence in bios is correct?
[21:15] <unknown512> kdehead -> whats the Ispci?
[21:16] <rgnr> nickrud:  10x i'll try that
[21:16] <kdehead_> unknown>  command line.  type "lspci"
[21:16] <ZiNC2^6> Can Ubuntu no longer be used without installing first?
[21:16] <kdehead_> thats L S P C I , but all lowercase...
[21:16] <toni_> ZiNC2^6, sure
[21:16] <zcat[1]> hmmm.. should I resize this and dual-boot 32 and 64, or should I just nuke the whole thing...
[21:16] <unknown512> kdehead>and where do i type this command line?
[21:16] <flamsmark> no, that's a gigabyte mobo, kdehead_
[21:16] <chuy> toni_: Yes, the sequence in the bios is correct. Get this, when I start the comp up, instead of running straight to the Grub boot menu, I have to press Esc to view the non graphical menu.
[21:16] <ZiNC2^6> toni: How do you get to that, then?
[21:17] <zcat[1]> I know.. time to try a hardy beta!
[21:17] <BeBoo> ZiNC2^6: download and burn the live cd
[21:17] <kdehead_> unknown ->  look for the "terminal" icon.
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane> Anthony Crane craves sandwich right now.
[21:17] <toni_> chuy, ok, now i got it!
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane> Me hungry! Me eat!
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane> Anthony Crane is in da building, Anthony Crane is in da building.
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane> Me hungry! Me eat!
[21:17] <ZiNC2^6> BeBoo: There's only "Examples" and "Install".
[21:17] <xamox> if I want to disable compiz, what is the easy way in gusty?
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane> Bon Appetit for Anthony Crane!
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane>  Give me food or give me death!
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane>  Me could eat entire pot roast right now.
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane>  I AM SO HUNGRY! Food for da great Anthony Crane!
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane>  Bon Appetit for Anthony Crane!
[21:17]  * nickrud thinks zcat[1] best have a spare partition
[21:17] <toni_> chuy, so with an text editor open the /boot/grub/menu.list
[21:17] <Teddy> I was making tar.bz2 archive from 4gb files and after a while it gave me an error I didn't look at it just press ok and now there is no archive created my but hard drive space is used another 4gb and I tried to locate or find it i can't. Please help
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane>  Me Anthony Crane.  ME HUNGRY!
[21:18] <BeBoo> ZiNC2^6: everything is still there. what do you want to do?
[21:18] <Anthony_Crane>  Bon Appetit for Anthony Crane!
[21:18] <Anthony_Crane>  Crane. Anthony Crane.
[21:18] <Teddy> please help
[21:18] <unknown512> kdehead> like, can you give me more of a hint where the "terminal" icon might be?
[21:18] <Anthony_Crane>  Bon Appetit for Anthony Crane!
[21:18] <nickrud> !ops | Anthony_Crane
[21:18] <ubotu> Anthony_Crane: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[21:18] <ZiNC2^6> BeBoo: To have the "taskbar", menus, etc.
[21:18] <Anthony_Crane>  Give me food or give me death!
[21:18] <eltux> !ops | Anthony_Crane
[21:18] <kdehead_> unknown ->  i'd love to, but i'm in the ICEWM window manager right now, not Gnome...
[21:18] <zcat[1]> are we lagging or summat?
[21:18] <desoleil> i have a projector that has native resolution of 800x480, I cannot get X11 to go to that resolution
[21:18] <Laurenceb> hi all
[21:18] <nickrud> where's a cop when you need one
[21:18] <chuy> toni_: HEre: http://pastebin.com/m70d9305a
[21:18] <kdehead_> its in one of the menus in the gnome desktop.
[21:18] <Teddy> Can you help me please ?
[21:18] <unknown512> kdehead > oh well thanks anyway =)
[21:18] <eltux> nickrud: lol
[21:19] <ZiNC2^6> Laurenceb: Hey.
[21:19] <kbrooks> ALERTING OPS AGAIN:
[21:19] <zcat[1]> !botsnack
[21:19] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[21:19] <Teddy> I was making tar.bz2 archive from 4gb files and after a while it gave me an error I didn't look at it just press ok and now there is no archive created my but hard drive space is used another 4gb and I tried to locate or find it i can't. Please help
[21:19] <Laurenceb> I've got ubuntu running off the livecd
[21:19] <zcat[1]> hmm.. that was quicker
[21:19] <Laurenceb> but how do I install?
[21:19] <kbrooks> ah ok
[21:19] <kbrooks> sorry all
[21:19] <toni_> chuy, perfect on line 25 there is hiddenmenu..comment it and save the file :)
[21:19] <ZiNC2^6> Laurenceb: There's "install" on the desktop, no?
[21:19] <Laurenceb> the install icon doesnt seem to do anything
[21:19] <nickrud> zcat[1], you had no | in your ops scream
[21:19] <PurpZeY> Laurenceb: just double click " install"
[21:19] <ZiNC2^6> Laurenceb: Oh.
[21:19] <Laurenceb> I click on it and nothing
[21:19] <Laurenceb> double click*
[21:20] <zcat[1]> Ohhh...
[21:20] <kdehead_> unknown ->  try adding the "run application" panel widget.
[21:20] <Laurenceb> tried that as well
[21:20] <ZiNC2^6> BeBoo: So how does that work?
[21:20] <JordiGH> I'd like to cat weird shit to my sound card, but /dev/dsp is seemingly busy. How can I kill whatever is using it?
[21:20] <Teddy> I was making tar.bz2 archive from 4gb files and after a while it gave me an error I didn't look at it just press ok and now there is no archive created my but hard drive space is used another 4gb and I tried to locate or find it i can't. And now I don't have space on my hard drive. How to delete that temporary archive?? Please help
[21:20] <chuy> toni_: like this: "# hiddenmenu"?
[21:20] <unknown512> kdehead> for what reason?
[21:20] <zcat[1]> didn't think it needed one, I was yelling -about- him, not to him...
[21:20] <unknown512> kdehead> iv found the terminal =D
[21:21] <haymaker> how do i customize the appearance of my gnome toolbars?
[21:21] <toni_> chuy, yes. it should appear now
[21:21] <Teddy> does everybody ignores me here ?!
[21:21] <PurpZeY> Laurenceb: If that persists....and it's weird, just restart and select "install" instead of "Start and install"
[21:21] <chuy> Why won't the SATA (Windows) drive loead?
[21:21] <ZiNC2^6> Teddy: Probably not. Just difficult to keep track.
[21:21] <Laurenceb> the cd fires up
[21:21] <kdehead_> unknown ->  because its easier to just type "xterm" than tryting to find it in a menu.
[21:21] <BeBoo> ZiNC2^6: Not sure, I see the menubar at the top but I don't have the "taskbar"... I'm not too sure
[21:21] <Laurenceb> but nothing happens
[21:21] <chuy> toni_Why won't the SATA (Windows) drive loead?
[21:21] <Teddy> then please help me
[21:21] <zcat[1]> Teddy: probably in /tmp somewhere ..
[21:21] <kdehead_> but anyway you found it now.
[21:21] <chuy> toni_: Why won't the SATA (Windows) drive loead?
[21:21] <Teddy> i was looking cant find anywhere
[21:21] <desoleil> how do I force a resolution (800x480)? i added the modeline to xorg.conf but it still does not show up in screen resolution
[21:22] <eltux> Teddy: with 1200 some odd people here, you sometimes get ignored. Don't worry though, they are here to help
[21:22] <Laurenceb> oh it works now
[21:22] <Laurenceb> strange
[21:22] <ZiNC2^6> BeBoo: Is that straight after running from the CD? I.e., desktop with "install" and "examples", and the menubar?
[21:22] <zcat[1]> Teddy: you didn't create the archive as a dotfile did you?
[21:22] <Teddy> no
[21:22] <zcat[1]> hehe.. just had to ask
[21:22] <Laurenceb> it wouldnt load before.... maybe a drive error?
[21:22] <toni_> chuy,  you should add it in the menu, but i have no experience with sata at boot...
[21:22] <BeBoo> yes, ZiNC2^6.
[21:22] <Laurenceb> my cd dive is going crazy, I wouldnt be suprised
[21:23] <zcat[1]> dunno.. I didn't think tar did any tempfiles .. that seems weird
[21:23] <BeBoo> i don't get the taskbar
[21:23] <unknown512> kdehead>alright i am going to make a post on the forums, thanks for your help
[21:23] <Teddy> I made it tar.bz2
[21:23] <Teddy> and now there is no archive nothing
[21:23] <Teddy> only my space is used
[21:23] <ZiNC2^6> BeBoo: Strange. Is there a way to run the menubar when it's not present?
[21:23] <kdehead_> unknown-> dont forget to post the lspci output.   the output of "dmesg" will also help.
[21:23] <toni_> can i merge two reiser partition?
[21:23] <chuy> toni_: Look at like 118 http://pastebin.com/m70d9305a
[21:24] <shadowxp> does anyone know where the default samba.conf is?
[21:24] <zcat[1]> find . -size +3g  or something like that ?
[21:24] <shadowxp> er smb.conf*
[21:24] <shadowxp> !samba
[21:24] <zcat[1]> you can use 'find' to find all the files bigger than about 3gig, that might track it down
[21:24] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[21:24] <toni_> chuy,  is saw..it's correct but i don't know if hd is ok also for sata...
[21:24] <kb9urq> I have cloned monitors at 1024x768 and 1366x768.  When stellarium goes fullscreen it only takes up the 1024x768 monitor and leaves extra space on the 1366.  How do I get it to take up the 1366 monitor's space?
[21:25] <zcat[1]> kb9urq: I have the opposite problem.. when I run urban terror fullscreen it spreads accross both monitors, with my crosshair right on the split
[21:25] <kb9urq> zcat: you're in xinerama?
[21:26] <zcat[1]> apparently so. I'm about to reinstall anyhow, so no rush to get it sorted
[21:26] <Teddy> zcat[1], how to find bigger than 3gig? what to write?  find ..
[21:26] <chuy> toni_: I did cat /boot/grub/device.map in terminal, and got this:
[21:26] <chuy> (hd0)   /dev/hda
[21:26] <chuy> (hd1)   /dev/sda
[21:26] <zcat[1]> Teddy: 'man find' -- it's a tool well worth learning how to use.
[21:26] <toni_> chuy,  so is correct
[21:28] <coflounder> Hey gurus.  I just upgraded from feisty to gutsy on my desktop the same way i upgraded on my lappy.  the upgrade went...badly.  After booting safe mode (the only way it'd boot), I ran sudo apt-get upgrade, and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.  I attempted a reboot, and got this error: shutdown: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl
[21:28] <coflounder> init: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/intictl
[21:28] <coflounder> any ideas?
[21:28] <e67> Hello
[21:29] <Laurenceb> should I use manual partioning to be sure of protecting my windows installation?
[21:29] <e67> I want to change the default ubuntu boot loading screen. how can it be possible??
[21:29] <toni_> Laurenceb,  yes you have
[21:29] <toni_> LadyNikon, hi
[21:29] <Laurenceb> ok, thats lucky
[21:29] <Laurenceb> I was almost tempted not to
[21:30] <nosmofui> how can i see the a preview of the pictures when a want to upload them from firefox in gnome??
[21:30] <eltux> I'm installing ubuntu on the computer next to me with the alternative cd and I'm on the part for select and install software and its just hanging on 6% and it says Please wait. I've waited for 15 minutes now and it hasn't moved. any suggestions?
[21:30] <nosmofui> restart the instalation
[21:30] <eltux> nosmofui: I have more than once and it does the same thing
[21:31] <Laurenceb> this doesnt make sence
[21:31] <Laurenceb> it shows two 27GB partitions
[21:31] <Laurenceb> and a 4GB
[21:31] <ompaul> !bootoptions | eltux (and try the no apic / apci options on that page)
[21:31] <ubotu> eltux (and try the no apic / apci options on that page): For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[21:31] <zcat[1]> eltux: wait longer... it does pause for ages indexing fonts or something
[21:31] <Laurenceb> as far as I was aware there were only two partitions
[21:31] <nosmofui> i didint understand eltux
[21:31] <Laurenceb> on my hdd
[21:31] <tomas_> good day, I got a sound issue and I can't seem to find anything about exactly this error on google , could anyone assist?
[21:32] <ZiNC2^6> How can one open a shell?
[21:32] <zcat[1]> eltux: also alt-F1 or something will show you what it's actually doing..
[21:32] <nosmofui> your pc is fast??
[21:32] <nosmofui> or slow
[21:32] <zcat[1]> alt-Fsomething..
[21:32] <ZiNC2^6> tomas: Perhaps. Be more specific, and someone might be able to help.
[21:32] <eltux> zcat[1]: its frozen :\
[21:32] <nosmofui> yeah...  alt+F_anynumbre
[21:32] <ompaul> !sound | tomas_
[21:32] <ubotu> tomas_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:33] <unknown512> kdehead> here is my thread if you can help me any further
[21:33] <unknown512> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4079414#post4079414
[21:33] <apocalypt1> how do i go about getting info on what distro i have installed?
[21:33] <nosmofui> maybe your cd is bad
[21:33] <netz> anyone having connection problems with help.ubuntu.com?
[21:33] <zcat[1]> eltux: ahh, ok... I know my installs it always gets to about 6% and seems to have hung.. then after a few minutes it flies through the rest of the install
[21:33] <tomas_> thanks ZiNC2^6  , the problem is , ubuntu finds the sound card but when I choose auto in system -> preference -> sound, it does the test, but no sound
[21:33] <ompaul> netz, no it is fine
[21:34] <hacknslash> apocalypt1, cat /etc/issue
[21:34] <ZiNC2^6> tomas: I'm not the ideal person for questions about Ubuntu. :) But maybe see these pages ubotu mentioned.
[21:34] <eltux> zcat[1]: I'll take your word for it and wait again
[21:34] <unknown512> If you guys know any answers to my thread please go and post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4079414#post4079414
[21:35] <tomas_> ZiNC2^6,  thanks will check it out :)
[21:35] <platius> tomas_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting  might be an answer here
[21:35] <zcat[1]> eltux: alt-F2 or one of hte F keys switches to the dpkg output and you can see what it's doing. If there's no drive activity or you can't switch though, it probably has hung
[21:35] <nsa84> good evening all, anyone experienced with nvidia 7900xx dual screen 1680*1050 ?
[21:35] <coflounder> anyone on my /dev/initctl problem?
[21:36] <nsa84> I cannot get the nvidea driver to work
[21:36] <jinxed-> Can someone help get my Nvidia driver working so I can get past 800 x 600 resolution?
[21:36] <netz> ompaul: could you check https://help.ubuntu.com/community
[21:36] <nsa84> hi jinced looks like we have the same problem ?
[21:36] <jinxed-> yep
[21:36] <PurpZeY> !nvidia | jinxed-
[21:36] <ubotu> jinxed-: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:36] <zcat[1]> download underway.. will have hardy in about 35 minutes...
[21:36] <nsa84> what moves did you make already ?
[21:37] <jinxed-> you enable it in restricted driver settings nsa and do gksudo nvidia-settings?
[21:37] <ompaul> netz, I did it is fine
[21:37] <nsa84> i had found these binary drivers, but don't seem to get them working
[21:37] <ZiNC2^6> How can I open a shell?
[21:37] <nsa84> i did sudo nvidia-xconfig
[21:38] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: menu > applications > terminal  ?
[21:38] <nsa84> i will try settings ..
[21:38] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: There's no menubar.
[21:38] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, I have tried all that
[21:38] <jinxed-> nothing helped
[21:38] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: alt-F2 gnome-terminal  I think
[21:38] <zcat[1]> yep.. that's it
[21:38] <nsa84> jinxed i got a "command not found" back
[21:39] <zcat[1]> where did your menubar go?
[21:39] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Alt-F2 does nothing. Maybe the desktop/whatever isn't fully loaded?
[21:39] <tomas_> Well I have checked all those troubleshooting guides, but the problem to me seems to be that, alsa recieves the sound, but does not get it forward to the speakers, all channels open, added the right options in alsa-base  so I'm kinda in a picked, it's a ALC850card
[21:39] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: sounds like it
[21:39] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: No idea. Justed started the CD, there's only Examples and Install.
[21:39] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: how much ram? if you have less than about 300M you might be waiting a while
[21:40] <jinxed-> really--? gksudo nvidia-settings should give you the menu... when i run it it comes up but i get errors and i can't config anything
[21:40] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: It's stopped loading. There's 240MB. I only have Nautilus accessible directly, besides the desktop icons.
[21:40] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: that seems a bit weird.
[21:40] <quinton_> I recently downloaded the asus p4c800e soundmax linux sound driver... I really need help on installing this, I clueless.
[21:41] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: I thought maybe it's "install only" or something.
[21:41] <nsa84> Euhm seems like somthing like i did with i think it was ubuntu 6.06 ad then it worked splendly
[21:41] <joseph_> In 7.10, is there a way to get an smbfs share to automount after the wireless network is started?  This used to work in 7.04
[21:41] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: I'd be inclined to use the alternative install disk anyhow.. you're a bit light on ram for the live cd I think
[21:42] <quinton_> I recently downloaded the asus p4c800e soundmax linux sound driver... I really need help on installing this, I clueless.
[21:42] <eid> how can i use samba to share printers ?
[21:42] <joseph_> the network gets started after /etc/smbfs has been done.  So I need something to monitor the network and try to mount my network shares
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> joseph_:  ive been using the fuse smb, tool., it rescans the samba network shares every few min. That way you dont have to manually mouint them
[21:42] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: I didn't plan on using it extensively, just for something specific.
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> !info fusesmb
[21:42] <ubotu> fusesmb: filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-1 (gutsy), package size 29 kB, installed size 140 kB
[21:42] <joseph_> Dr_Willis, cool, is that in the repository?
[21:42] <eid> if you can give me any good tutorial for sharing printers using samba
[21:42] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Alternative install must be installed, right? :)
[21:42] <joseph_> Dr_Willis, perfect!!
[21:42] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: can you borrow another 256M from somewhere then? That would probably help
[21:42] <nsa84> jinxed .. sorry just checking my restricted drivers settings, they waren't activated
[21:42] <joseph_> Dr_Willis, 7.04 used tod o that automatically...
[21:43] <nsa84> when i actievated them en retried the command i opens something up :)
[21:43] <XBehave> ive broken a driver is there anyway to restore it without compiling it
[21:43] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Not really. If it were memory, wouldn't it actively complain? And weren't the requirements 192MB?
[21:43] <PurpZeY> XBehave: What do you mean you broke it/
[21:44] <DigitalNinja> Is there a good tool for monitoring system performance? I was about to install Cacti but thought I would ask first.
[21:44] <joseph_> Dr_Willis, ok, i've installed it.  Now what do I do to get it running and mounting my smbfs out of /etc/fstab ?
[21:44] <joseph_> Dr_Willis, btw, if i do sudo mount -a, it will mount the share, so i know it works
[21:44] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: no, it won't complain, it will just run real slow and fail to start stuff... I'm not sure what the minimum is, I generally find that with 256M the install is painfully slow though
[21:44] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: anyhow.. what were you trying to do? I missed it
[21:45] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: I don't mind slow. It definitely seems slower than Knoppix 4, but it will do for now. If it allowed me more control.
[21:45] <nsa84> Jinxed im only not able to do any setting according to the resolution of the screen and the activation of the second screen.
[21:45] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Run some checksumming on a few files on NTFS.
[21:45] <XBehave> ZiNC2^6: the alternate cd will run faster, the livecd will barely run without swap
[21:45] <quinton_> Can someone please help me install some sound drivers? thank you!
[21:45] <coflounder> DigitalNinja: if you don't want a gui-try sysstat
[21:46] <ZiNC2^6> XBehave: Barely would be good enough. :)
[21:46] <soulrider> !flash
[21:46] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[21:46] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[21:46] <quinton_> Can someone please help me install some sound drivers? thank you!
[21:46] <zcat[1]> can the regular live CD be used to just launch a basic text shell? that might work better..
[21:46] <jinxed-> really--? gksudo nvidia-settings should give you the menu... when i run it it comes up but i get errors and i can't config anything
[21:47] <jinxed-> Can someone help get my Nvidia driver working so I can get past 800 x 600 resolution?
[21:47] <DigitalNinja> coflounder: I don't know this tool. I'll give it a try. I'm really looking for something with a graph though.
[21:47] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Not ideal, but that's what I was thinking of, since I'm not sure why the GUI isn't there.
[21:47] <tomas_> !sound
[21:47] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:47] <quinton_> http://support.asus.com/download/download_item.aspx?product=1&model=P4C800-E%20Deluxe
[21:48] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: what you really need is something like insert, the ubuntu CD isn't really designed to be a quick diagnostic toolkit..
[21:48] <XBehave> PurpZeY: i was trying to change my wireless drivers following some guide, now i get a ioctl(SIOCSIFFLAGS) failed: Operation not supported when i try  to use it
[21:48] <quinton_> Can someone please help me install some sound drivers?
[21:48] <MadsRH> Can anyone tell what to write in GRUB when I want to boot from XP on hdb1?
[21:48] <ZiNC2^6> zcat, XBehave: You think I might do better with 7.04?
[21:48] <jinxed-> tomas_, you know anything about nvidia drivers?
[21:48] <fallore> hello everyone. i've got a problem that worries me quite a bit: recently, as in i think since yesterday, my grub loader, which loads ubuntu and windows, started taking a long time to display the OSes it could boot to. it loads eventually though
[21:48] <nsa84> jinxed? what is youre setup? maybe we are able to joins fores and kill two birds with one stone.
[21:48] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: My impression was that it was supposed to work, even if slowly. I guess I'll try Knoppix, if older Ubuntu versions are the same in this regard.
[21:49] <tomas_> jinxed-,  no sorry, I don't know much, except ubuntu did that completely automatically
[21:49] <luiscota> Hi. How can I login to Freenode? What's the command?
[21:49] <zcat[1]> http://www.inside-security.de/insert_en.html -- I've used this in the past.. or knoppix would be good...
[21:49] <prometoys> hi, has somebody experience with the Realtek 8111C network card (module r8169)?
[21:49] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: No point in trying 7.04?
[21:49] <PurpZeY> luiscota: You are logged in to freenode
[21:49] <chymera> how do I get rid of that freakin trash icon from my desktop?
[21:49] <soulrider> !resolution
[21:49] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:49] <MadsRH> Can anyone tell what to write in GRUB when I want to boot from XP on hdb1?
[21:49] <jinxed-> Can anyone help me get my resolution working ... I have been working on this for hours now and I am not getting anywhere?
[21:49] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: if you have one handy, sure..
[21:49] <quinton_> Can someone please help me install a sound driver, I dont understand what to do.
[21:49] <jinxed-> soulrider, i have been through that, and twinview
[21:49] <joseph_> Dr_Willis, are you there?  I don't see ANY documentation on this app
[21:50] <jinxed-> soulrider, i think i know where the error is but i don't know how to fix it
[21:50] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Not yet. The question is whether there were radical differences between that and 7.10 that would prevent 7.10 from running properly.
[21:50] <fallore> hello everyone. i've got a problem that worries me quite a bit: recently, as in i think since yesterday, my grub loader, which loads ubuntu and windows, started taking a long time to display the OSes it could boot to. it loads eventually though
[21:50] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: Is your card recognized properly?
[21:50] <prometoys> the network doesnt work (static and dhcp/ cable, firewall etc checked), and the chip seams problematic.
[21:50] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, I believe so
[21:50] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: Have you done the "!fixres" steps?
[21:51] <luiscota> PurpZeY, it's something like /msg nickserv identify password, but I want to log in with a different name.
[21:51] <PurpZeY> luiscota: You have to register any name before you identify yourself to it
[21:51] <zcat[1]> well if you're going to download something for the job I'd get a proper diagnostics distro like insert.. 6.06 or 7.04 might do the job if you had it already but I wouldn't bother downloading it specially..
[21:51] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, lspci -v | grep nVidia lists something with nvidia so i think its working
[21:51] <vespertilio> hallo
[21:51] <Cromag> !de
[21:51] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:52] <zcat[1]> anyway, insert is a small download, you could have grabebd it by now ;)
[21:52] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: hey man how are you doing?
[21:52] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: are you getting direct rendering?
[21:52] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, I am trying to get the built in configuration for Nvidia drivers to work so when you type gksudo Nvidia-settings i can just config resolution in there
[21:52] <luiscota> PurpZeY, yes. I've done that. It's just that I'm on another machine with another username.
[21:52] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Alright, I guess I'll go with Knoppix 5 since it's already downloading.
[21:52] <quinton_> Can someone please help me install some sound drivers, I dont quiet understand how.
[21:52] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: But what I'm seeing now is abnormal, right? :) I was actually looking forward to seeing Ubuntu.
[21:52] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, I don't know what you mean... when i restart it says i am in low graphics mode... btw eventually i am trying to get to dual monitor
[21:52] <fallore> hello everyone. i've got a problem that worries me quite a bit: recently, as in i think since yesterday, my grub loader, which loads ubuntu and windows, started taking a long time to display the OSes it could boot to. it loads eventually though
[21:52] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: And it looked promising before the almost empty desktop showed up. :)
[21:52] <ignus> hi, can anyone help me install Tracker-0.6.4?
[21:53] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: it does seem odd, yes
[21:53] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: If you are in low graphics mode something is not being identified properly. Perhaps it is using the wrong driver
[21:53] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Is it possible to do a partial install that would still run off the CD, but with swap/temp/home on the HDD?
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> quinton_:  uncompress the source file, be sure you have all needed stuff installed (install build-essential package)  cd to the source dir, then normally its a ' ./configure then make, then sudo make install' commands.
[21:53] <Laurenceb> hi all, can anyone help me, I'm trying to nstall alongside a windows installation
[21:53] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, how would i tell what driver it is using... and whether or not it is the wrong one
[21:53] <Laurenceb> without losing work ect on the hdd
[21:53] <jinxed-> ... if you want i can give you remote desktop acess... I am not very good with terminal
[21:53] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: Is this a fresh install?
[21:54] <quinton_> dr_willis, would you please step by step guide me?
[21:54] <ignus> hi, can anyone help me install Tracker-0.6.4?
[21:54] <Laurenceb> so, I'm using the manual partition thingy
[21:54] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: possible, sure.. practical? Probably not.. have you tried puppy linux? It runs like that be default..
[21:54] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, no its upgrade from 7.04
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> quinton_:  step 1 uncompress the source archive.
[21:54] <themoebius> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu and it enabled the compiz stuff automatically, but this is a slow computer so how can i disable it?
[21:54] <jinxed-> I dual boot XP and ubuntu PurpZeY
[21:54] <quinton_> dr_willis, yes, ok i uncompressed it to desktop
[21:54] <Ax-Ax> how do i search after the phrase "abc" in all documents in home?
[21:54] <nickrud> themoebius, system->prefs->appearance effects tab, select none
[21:55] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Well, practical or not... if it'd do what I initially expected the CD to do, that'd be fine. But... okay. :)
[21:55] <zcat[1]> Ax-Ax: find ~ -exec grep {} abc {} \;
[21:55] <Ax-Ax> ok
[21:55] <zcat[1]> ignore the last {} it's a typo
[21:55] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: Hmmm...Well, the dual boot is non-issue, but it sounds like you got the wrong driver for the card you are using if you get can't res above 800 x 600. and in addition it is running in low graphics mode
[21:55] <themoebius> nickrud: ok thanks
[21:55] <Ax-Ax> zcat[1], no
[21:55] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Is the install procedure always as scary as it is now? It loads the Partioner, then lets me choose between two "automatic" partitioning options (one of them selected by default), even though the HDD is already partitioned and used.
[21:55] <Laurenceb> how do I mount a swap partition?
[21:55] <jinxed-> well I have a 16X PCI express geforce go 6600 128 mb ram... PurpZeY
[21:55] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: when I say impractical, I mean 'impossible for mere mortals to figure out how'
[21:56] <quinton_> dr_willis, it uncompressed an actual folder and it says the same name w/o the .tar.bz2 on the end.
[21:56] <DigitalNinja> coflounder: Sysstat is kind of cool. I'll run it and see what I get
[21:56] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Oh. :)
[21:56] <lgc> PurpZeY, see? I have now logged in as lgc.
[21:56] <XBehave> ZiNC2^6: its possible but you would need to mount stuff yourself everytime, a better option for a liveCD bassed system IMO is knoppix (or gnoppix if you hate kde)
[21:56] <rodolfo> hey i need some help...what file should i install when terminal says "No package xvmc found"? (x11proto-fonts-dev, x11proto-core-dev and xserver-xorg-dev are already installed)
[21:56] <ZiNC2^6> XBehave: Haven't used it much, but I didn't like it, yes. And the little of Gnome I've seen in 7.10 seems nicer.
[21:56] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: Try running the following in the terminal glxinfo | grep direct
[21:56] <rokra> HEllo
[21:57] <ZiNC2^6> rokra: Hi.
[21:57] <rokra> Please how to change the time zone to UTC on gutsy? the comand tzconfig disappear?
[21:57] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: a better option is puppy linux.. it automagically looks for saved config on all your drives at bootup.. and it's designed to run in very little ram as well
[21:57] <jinxed-> glxinfo | grep direct
[21:57] <jinxed-> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:57] <jinxed-> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:57] <jinxed-> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:57] <jinxed-> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[21:57] <jinxed-> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:57] <jinxed-> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:57] <jinxed-> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:57] <jinxed-> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:57] <nsa84> lol jinxed the same on my side
[21:57] <zcat[1]> !pastebin | jinxed-
[21:57] <ubotu> jinxed-: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:57] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Is it as established/popular as Knoppix?
[21:57] <fallore> my grub loader, which boots ubuntu and XP, started taking a much longer time to show the OS's yesterday. does anyone have any idea why this would happen?
[21:57] <jinxed-> sorry zcat
[21:57] <PuppiesOnAcid> when i am running the 7.10 LiveCD and i try to launch Terminal, i get kicked back to the login screen.  does anyone know why?
[21:57] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: pretty well known, yeah
[21:58] <quinton_> dr_willis, please continue.
[21:58] <ignus> can anyone help me upgrade the version of tracker i have installed to 0.6.4?
[21:58] <lgc> fallore, grub is a small program so it shouldn't take long at all.
[21:58] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Alright. I might check it out next.
[21:58] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: What driver are you using?
[21:58] <fallore> lgc: thats why i'm worried, and it never used to take this long.
[21:58] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Thanks so far. :)
[21:59] <Hypergraphe> what does moving something out of line means ?
[21:59] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: I have friends that run puppy on old laptops, with I think about 32 or 64M ram and stuff...
[21:59] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Any comments on the scary partioning stage of Install? :)
[21:59] <Hypergraphe> moves lexical bindings (BIND_EXPR) out of line
[21:59] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: I suppose no Gnome then?
[21:59] <Ximal> is there a way to recover files I've sent to mytrash bin and emptied out of the trash been ? or logs to show ? that i could recover ?
[22:00] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: with puppy, it will just use whatever filesystem you already have.. not sure about ntfs but with fat32 it just makes a big file for itself that windows ignores..
[22:00] <lgc> fallore, is your disk doing fine?
[22:00] <jikuty> when I'm installing ubuntu (dualbooting vista and ubuntu7.04), a guide i'm using says that the summary should say "Vista/Longhorn (loader)" under "Migration Assistant" - my summary doesn't have this.. is Ubuntu not recognizing that windows exists?
[22:00] <nickrud> Ximal, if you emptied the trash, the files are gone
[22:00] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Well, simple file, clearly Windows would do anything about it.
[22:00] <eltux> I'm installing ubuntu on the computer next to me with the alternative cd and I'm on the part for select and install software and its now saying that that installation step failed. can I skip it without problems or what should I do next?
[22:00] <fallore> lgc: to my knowledge. the other day linux wouldn't recognize the partition that windows was on, but i booted to windows right after that just fine
[22:00] <Ximal> but aren't they logged nickrud ?
[22:00] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: it has a gui.. not gnome, I think it might be xfce
[22:00] <nickrud> Ximal, no, just deleted
[22:01] <Ximal> ok
[22:01] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: But I was talking about the installer of Ubuntu. Might be interesting to see, nevertheless, but it started looking like it'd just zap all my partitions.
[22:01] <Dr_Willis> quinton_:  cd to the source dir that it made.. and read the install docs. The standard procedure is './configure' 'make' then 'sudo make install'
[22:01] <fallore> ZiNC2^6: yeah, i dont trust automatic, i always do it manually
[22:01] <EnderTheThird> If every device for my mobo is giving " nVidia Corporation Unknown device" in lspci, am I pretty much hosed?
[22:01] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, how do i tell which driver i am using i can't find it
[22:01] <jikuty> anyone know why the "Vista/Longhorn (loader)" line isn't coming up in the install summary for me?
[22:01] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, all it says is Nvidia accelerated graphics driver
[22:01] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: Restricted drivers manage
[22:01] <eltux> I'm installing ubuntu on the computer next to me with the alternative cd and I'm on the part for select and install software and its now saying that that installation step failed. can I skip it without problems or what should I do next?
[22:01] <lgc> fallore, that means grub is fine, I think. Have you tried to fsck your disk lately?
[22:02] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: ahh yes, generally it's pretty safe.. 7.10 has a bug where sometimes it doesn't recognise the existing NTFS and offers to just use the whole drive by default.. not good :)
[22:02] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, all it says is Nvidia accelerated graphics driver
[22:02] <quinton_> dr_willis, I dont quiet understand, Im not used to a terminal still (being a user coming from windows) if you wouldnt mind to download this file and tell me exactly so I do not mess up please?
[22:02] <ZiNC2^6> fallore: If that's how is always is... scary. Would be much more reassuring if the initial radio buttons page would acknowledge the existence of the current partitions.
[22:02] <fallore> lgc: no, i dont know what that is, lol
[22:02] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: I have multiple partitions there, some FAT32.
[22:02] <rodolfo> anyone?
[22:02] <XBehave> ive broken a driver is there anyway to restore it without compiling it? or atleast not compiling all the modules?
[22:02] <gerbia> I have installed the latest version of Wine and have commenced "winecfg" : yields error: err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo You need to set the "UseFastTls" option to "2" in your X config file. I set UseFastTls to 2, but I am still getting the same error. I need a way to fix this
[22:02] <nickrud> eltux, you should run the check disk on the startup screen, see if you have a corrupt file
[22:02] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: but if you pay attention and make sure it's saying 'rezise' or 'free space' somewhere, you should be OK
[22:02] <eltux> nickrud: ok
[22:02] <e67> Hello
[22:02] <robdeman> hi all, when I tell Postfix to use /usr/bin/procmail for local delivery (in order to get SpamAsassin working) then no mail is being delieverd anymore into my IMAP / Dovecot folders in ~Maildir/
[22:03] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: No free space. And I wouldn't want to resize. But I canceled it before that stage... looked too fishy. Particularly with all the HDD activity.
[22:03] <robdeman> whenever I remove /usr/bin/procmail then it works again however - no SpamAssassin was invoked
[22:03] <lgc> fallore, fsck is an utility to check your filesystem. Do 'man fsck' to learn about its usage and then do that.
[22:03] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: So what, Ubuntu must have a dedicated partition? No file-on-FAT for HDD or something?
[22:03] <quinton_> dr_willis, or I could pastebin the instructions to you.
[22:03] <nickrud> robdeman, I have procmail drop them into my maildirs
[22:03] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: yes, it needs it's own partition..
[22:04] <A[D]minS> how i can reconfigure xorg with any tool under command line?
[22:04] <robdeman> nickrud: so procmail moes do this?
[22:04] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Didn't realize that. Alas.
[22:04] <nsa84> people jinxed and purpzey thanks for the first assistance, but i have to leave... maybe later we will be able to solve this problem on this side
[22:04] <quinton_> dr_willis, http://pastebin.ca/843104
[22:04] <fallore> lgc: what should i check with it?
[22:04] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: there are some distros that hide themselves in a big virtualfs file but ubuntu isn't one of them/..
[22:04] <quinton_> dr_willis, if that may help then theres the instructions.
[22:05] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: BTW, is there a GUI CRC/MD5er in Ubuntu? I can run things thru Nautilus, it seems.
[22:05] <jinxed-> any ideas PurpZeY ?
[22:05] <lgc> fallore, the sanity of your disk, or rather your filesystem.
[22:06] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: probably.. but I don't know what it's called :(
[22:06] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: What does the restricted drivers manager say?
[22:06] <nickrud> robdeman, yes, I have # Catch-all rule for all unmatched email <nl> :0 <nl> $HOME/Maildir/  . Note the / at the end, VERY important, tells procmail it's a maildir type folder
[22:06] <XBehave> ZiNC2^6:  wubi can be used to install ubuntu to a file in a windows partition
[22:06] <XBehave> but that brings its own problems
[22:07] <robdeman> works!
[22:07] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, it says NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver with check box enabled with check in it. and status: in use with green check
[22:07] <Strangework> I am using an HP Pavilion dv6426us, I am attempting to use the beta version of Skype, the program will not sense my webcam for some reason. Does anyone here have a remedy?
[22:07] <Arthur> How would I run/compile python files?
[22:07] <ZiNC2^6> XBehave: What problems? I saw it on the CD. But I thought everything can be done through Ubuntu itself too.
[22:07] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: Do you have xgl running xserv?
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> quinton_:  those docs seem rather clear and detailed. There a specific part you are not understanding?
[22:07] <grayFalc1n> Hello everybody! Just wondering... I just compiled me a new kernel, and I need to make an initrd. But no mkinitrd is to be found... the usual package "initrd-tools" isn't known to apt-get either, though all my repositories seem to be OK. The only suggestion I could find online (update-initramfs) doesn't seem to exist either. So where do I get my mkinitrd?
[22:07] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Shouldn't I be able to run bash through Nautilus by doubleclicking it?
[22:08] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, i don't know what that means
[22:08] <PurpZeY> !xgl
[22:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[22:08] <nickrud> robdeman, then you can use procmail to sort into your folders, much easier than doing it by hand.  :0  * ^List-Id.*ubuntu-devel   $HOME/Maildir/.ubuntu.devel/  is another rule I have
[22:08] <quinton_> dr_willis, I am just not good at understanding directions, I sorry for so much trouble.
[22:08] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: or right-click, select 'run in terminal'  .. there should be a checkbox somewhere iirc
[22:08] <PurpZeY> nickrud: How do check if someone is running xgl x-server ?
[22:09] <PurpZeY> The nvidia....thing...
[22:09] <nickrud> PurpZeY,   ps -A | grep - xgl
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> quinton_:  open up a  shell. cd to the dir the source is in,  the commands are './configure' then 'make ' then 'sudo make install'
[22:09] <nickrud> PurpZeY, erm, grep -i xgl that is
[22:09] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: ps -A | grep -i xgl
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> quinton_:  unless your system has some of the specific cases/issues those readmens mention.
[22:09] <joseph_> Can someone go to System > Preferences >> Sessions >> Network-Manager (EDIT BUTTON) and show me the path of the network manager?
[22:10] <XBehave> ZiNC2^6: wubi is unofficial, there are some hacks needed to get ubunutu to work in a file so there can be issues my only experience was bad but do able
[22:10] <Strangework> I am using an HP Pavilion dv6426us, I am attempting to use the beta version of Skype, the program will not sense my webcam for some reason. Does anyone here have a remedy?
[22:10] <PurpZeY> joseph_: Network manager is nm-applet
[22:10] <joseph_> PurpZeY, thanks!
[22:10] <quinton_> dr_willis, what do you mean to open a shell. dir?
[22:10] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: No such thing here. Only "open with application". I guess that goes along with the lack of menubar. Oh, well.
[22:10] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: you really should take a look at puppy, I'm sure it's much closer to what you're trying to achieve.
[22:10] <Arthur> Dr_Willis how do I run .py files?
[22:10] <jinxed-> i copied and ps -A | grep -i xgl and nothing happened
[22:11] <PurpZeY> Arthur: You have to make them executable. then ./nameoffile
[22:11] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: But I wanted to have a whole package to look at! But I will, if Knoppix 5 is not it in the end. :)
[22:11] <jengle_> hi everyone
[22:11] <uwo> hi all. i tried kde (and installed kde desktop trhough synaptic) - now on boot (before gdm) and shutdown i have a kubuntu screen (not ubuntu) - what is this screen called and how do i change back?
[22:11] <jinxed-> i copied and ps -A | grep -i xgl and nothing happened PurpZeY
[22:11] <newbie101> Hello, all! I have a question on installing a video card... I changed out my old video card on a Xubuntu 7.04 machine and replaced it with a 3dfx Voodoo 3. Now X won't start. I've been trying dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but no dice so far. Question: Would it be easiest for me to just try a rescue with the liveCD?
[22:11] <ZiNC2^6> XBehave: It's on the 7.10 CD, but unofficial? And what kind of problems? Destructive, or just... annoyances?
[22:11] <nickrud> !usplash | uwo
[22:11] <ubotu> uwo: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> quinton_:  if you dont understand the basics of the linux terminal. Its time to read some of the bash/shell/terminal starter guides.
[22:11] <jinxed-> I don't believe I am running any desktop effects i would like to eventually though
[22:11] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: I got it...so, no xgl....bear with
[22:11] <jengle_> i apologize if i'm asking in the wrong channel, but i want to know how i can change the resolution of ubuntu's login screen?
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> !bash |  quinton_
[22:11] <ubotu> quinton_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[22:11] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: 'k, just seems you're trying to push a round peg into a square hole a bit
[22:12] <quinton_> dr_willis, I would be glad to learn, I just need to fix my sound.
[22:12] <Arthur> PurpZeY I get permission denied, is there a way to bypass that like the sudo command does?
[22:12] <PurpZeY> nickrud: So, restricted drivers is telling him the card is working as Nvidia restricted, but he is low graphics mode and no xgl....What's the next step?
[22:12] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: I can hope... I just was sure Ubuntu is just like Knoppix in this regard. I'll try it later on another computer with 384MB to see if I get the full GUI.
[22:12] <PurpZeY> Arthur: sudo is permisson
[22:12] <grayFalc1n> Ok, so if nobody knows where mkinitrd is on ubuntu... can I just use yaird as substitution? Does it do the exact same thing?
[22:12] <Strangework> I am using an HP Pavilion dv6426us, I am attempting to use the beta version of Skype, the program will not sense my webcam for some reason. Does anyone here have a remedy?
[22:13] <uwo> nickrud:tnx
[22:13] <newbie101> jengle_ I think this can be done by adjusting the default resolution in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[22:13] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: also run the disk self-test .. perhaps you burned it too fast and it's having trouble reading a few files?
[22:13] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Is my impression correct that Gnome seems much more solid than KDE?
[22:13] <Arthur> But if I do /sudo ./file.py it'll give me an error because of an invalid command
[22:13] <newbie101> jengle_ IIRC, the login screen is always at default resolution.
[22:13] <nickrud> PurpZeY, oh, nvidia.  I do know he doesn't need xserver-xgl for nvidia to run compiz. And if he has one of the 8xxx series, the ubuntu nvidia isn't new enough
[22:13] <XBehave> ZiNC2^6: well i ran into problems that i wouldnt of been able to solve if i was new
[22:13] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: I'd expect it to complain. But I checked the MD5s, at least those that are included on the CD (includes the main compressed FS and a bunch of others).
[22:13] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: What card?
[22:13] <nickrud> PurpZeY, but that's about all I know about nvidia
[22:14] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: my impression is that ubuntu is designed around gnome first and KDE as an afterthought.. so generally things work best with gnome-based ubuntu.
[22:14] <ZiNC2^6> XBehave: If your HDD/data wasn't touched, that's still not too bad.
[22:14] <PurpZeY> nickrud: If the Ubuntu drivers aren't new enough, the nvidia drivers are appropriate
[22:14] <PurpZeY> ?
[22:14] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: I don't mean with Ubuntu specifically, but in general. I didn't like KDE much in Knoppix 4.
[22:14] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, I have a 16x PCI express Nvidia Geforce Go 6600 128 mb ram
[22:14] <jengle_> newbie101: can i change it?
[22:14] <nickrud> PurpZeY, unless he wants to run vesa without any acceleration at all ..
[22:14] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Something about how things look, and how clearly it's drawn.
[22:14] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: it does complain, but not anywhere you see it.. somewhere on alt-F7 it'll be logging a bunch of errors :)
[22:14] <newbie101> Question: Are the 3dfx Voodoo drivers restricted?
[22:14] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: cleanly.
[22:14] <newbie101> jengle_ Yes, you should be able to.
[22:15] <jengle_> newbie101: any idea how?
[22:15] <newbie101> jengle_ Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[22:15] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Maybe with the normal GUI. Here it just switches to "drag window" mode.
[22:15] <nickrud> newbie101, no, they're waaaaay too old for that.
[22:15] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: You can try a dpkg-reconfigure but that's going to reset X on you.
[22:15] <XBehave> KDE and Gnome are both perfectly stable, kde3 uses less ram than gnome but if your woried about ram xfce is the best choice
[22:15] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, Already tried that
[22:15] <slugone> how do i install a BIN file ?
[22:15] <newbie101> nickrud If I can see the card in the output from lspci, that means the right driver is loaded, doesn't it?
[22:16] <ZiNC2^6> XBehave: That's odd. Why does it use more? KDE looked more cluttered. And Knoppix with KDE says it only needs 96MB of RAM for basic operation.
[22:16] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: Hmmm...Have you tried to use nvidia's drivers? Other than that I'd say be bet is ask in #compiz-fusion b/c those guys know this stuff very very well
[22:16] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: mostly it's just personal preference.. they both have their strengths
[22:16] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: So the ultimate one would be a hybrid? :)
[22:16] <nickrud> newbie101, if you're trying to get compiz running, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Voodoo3doesnotdo3d.
[22:16] <rodolfo> please someone!!!
[22:16] <newbie101> nickrud No, actually, I'm just trying to get X running. :) I just installed the card.
[22:16] <slugone> how do i execute a BIN file ?
[22:17] <nickrud> newbie101, and no, if you do  grep tdfx  /etc/X11/xorg.conf , and see Driver "tdfx" you're running the right driver
[22:17] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: I think redhat tried that... kinda universal GUI that wasn't really either
[22:17] <pvl1> when i try to put something into /etc/apt/sources.list, it tells me i dont have permision
[22:17] <caleb_> why doesn't this command work? I try to execute it from the terminal, I get this message: caleb@caleb-laptop:~/Desktop/elc-150$ gnome-open el.x86.linux.bin
[22:17] <caleb_> Error showing url: There is no default action associated with this location
[22:17] <robdeman> so ok I got Spam Assassin working now
[22:17] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: What was it called?
[22:17] <XBehave> slugone: it needs permision to run, then just type its location
[22:17] <newbie101> nick oh... it's the tdfx driver? I think that's my problem, then -- I told the config program to use voodoo. Many thanks!
[22:17] <robdeman> but where should I create the 'spam' folder for IMAP?
[22:17] <slugone> ????
[22:17] <robdeman> in $HOME/Maildir/ .. and then..?
[22:18] <slugone> how do i give it permission to run
[22:18] <nickrud> caleb_, because that .bin file is not a website
[22:18] <roman2k> somebody know where i can get this file 12B83718.gpg ???
[22:18] <grayFalc1n> Ok, nevermind... apparently yaird does the job perfectly, too.
[22:18] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: can't remember. No idea what they do nowdays.. but for a while they had a nice desktop that was a mix of features from gnome and kde.
[22:18] <rodolfo> nickrud: hey i need some help...what file should i install when terminal says "No package xvmc found"? (x11proto-fonts-dev, x11proto-core-dev and xserver-xorg-dev are already installed)
[22:18] <ZiNC2^6> roman2k: http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg ?
[22:18] <slugone> got it ty
[22:18] <caleb_> nickrud i can execute any other file. I deduced this didn't work because it doesn't have a setting to open in a program
[22:18] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Why didn't it stick? And, you think, are the highlights (and lows) of each?
[22:19] <nickrud> rodolfo, you can go to packages.ubuntu.com , and use the 'search for files in packages'
[22:19] <XBehave> slugone:  find its location and chmod o+x it i think
[22:19] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: +what
 file not found
[22:20] <eltux> nickrud: it failed. so that means I have to get a new iso image xD
[22:20] <newbie101> jengle_ I won't be on much longer, but I'd first try setting the default resolution using the settings manager (graphical interface). If that fails, you can edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and put the resolution you want to be default at the front of the list. The next reboot should come up at the right resolution.
[22:20] <jengle_> newbie101: sorry for the wait.. using latest
[22:20] <nickrud> caleb_, ah, gnome-open's got smarter now :) Yes, the file is intended to be executed rather than opened.    file <binfile> will tell you what kind of file it is
[22:20] <zcat[1]> 93% ...
[22:21] <robdeman> can anybody spam me please? haha need to test spamasassin
[22:21] <nickrud> !iso | eltux check for a good download, it's more likely to be the burn
[22:21] <ubotu> eltux check for a good download, it's more likely to be the burn: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[22:21] <ZiNC2^6> roman2k: Hmm... yeah. Maybe it was removed for a reason, I don't know.
[22:21] <nickrud> !md5 | eltux (shoulda gone with this first, I backspaced :)
[22:21] <ubotu> eltux (shoulda gone with this first, I backspaced :): To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[22:21] <rodolfo> nickrud: but thats the problem. i dont know what is missing here. or whatever dependency is still missing for xvmc.
[22:21] <caleb_> nickrud: file <binfile>???
[22:22] <nickrud> rodolfo, it's not in gutsy, anyway.
[22:22] <nickrud> caleb_, file  el.x86.linux.bin
[22:22] <rodolfo> nickrud: but...how do i get this solved? i sont know what im supposed to look for
[22:23] <nickrud> rodolfo, what are you expecting that file to do, first of all
[22:23] <caleb_> nickrud: so how do i execute it then?
[22:23] <nickrud> caleb chmod u+x <binfile> && ./<binfile>
[22:24] <newbie101> What's the right command to launch xserver from a terminal?
[22:24] <nickrud> rodolfo, it's not in ubuntu under that name, so function is next
[22:25] <Oli``> newbie101: from a proper terminal or a nested terminal in X (for nested X sessions)?
[22:25] <ConstyXIV> does flash memory suck any electricity when it's reading or idle?
[22:25] <newbie101> oli`` Um, a proper terminal, I guess? The kind you get when X fails to start.
[22:26] <nickrud> newbie101, after you made the driver change , sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[22:26] <phosphoricx> When I suspend my audio doesn't work, so I have to unload the module (snd_ice1724) before and reload it after. However, this only works if no program is using the module before suspending. Anyone know how to fix that?
[22:26] <nickrud> newbie101, or restart, if it says it's already running
[22:26] <Oli``> newbie101: then: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[22:26] <newbie101> nickrud / Oli`` : Thanks to both of you -- that's two things I've learned today.
[22:26] <Oli``> newbie101: ah yes, you'll probably want start instead of restart
[22:27] <nickrud> newbie101, I really liked my voodoo3 in it's day, but it only does 3d in 16 bit, the colors look funky
[22:27] <quicksilver_> This is driving me a bit nutty... And Ive been googling for about an hour.... Does anybody know how to use SCIM to type Japanese into Firefox? I can type Japanese in any other application, みて、But not in Firefox.
[22:28] <Anderson1> Can anyone help me with this
[22:28] <Anderson1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50904/
[22:28] <rodolfo> nickrud: well i went on x.org to get the latest release of my Vdriver. i did and when running ./configure, this is what i got: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50903/
[22:28] <brianski> hi, some of the packages on my install cd are corrupt... is there a way i can use this CD as a netinst cd?
[22:28] <newbie101> nickrud I just *had* to have it back in my heavy gaming days. I think I bought it mainly so Baldur's Gate II would run with all the effects. :)
[22:28] <newbie101> nickrud It's up and working now -- thanks very much for the info.
[22:28] <Anderson1> Can anyone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50904/
[22:28] <Anderson1> (just trying to get it all on one line there)
[22:28] <jcg42> I'm supposed to create a fake newspaper front page as a project for school. I'm guessing the best program for this is Scribus. Are there any other programs that I might use?
[22:29] <vocx> can anyone do "mkdir ~some_directory~" and confirm that the tildes make the directory invisible in nautilus?
[22:29] <toni_> ubuntu stores somewhere the info on the /  partition?
[22:29] <nickrud> rodolfo, I found http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjI2Ng
[22:29] <Anderson1> Can anyone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50904/
[22:30] <nickrud> newbie101, yw, enjoy
[22:30] <toni_> Anderson1,  i have no idea :)
[22:30] <XBehave> is there a way to compile a single module? the guide im following compiles all of them
[22:30] <toni_> Anderson1, get the deb packages
[22:30] <Anderson1> toni_, Thanks anywho, I don't either.
[22:30] <Anderson1> toni_, I didn't think there was one
[22:30] <nickrud> newbie101, and if my memory serves me, I think it was baldurs gate I for me :)
[22:31] <simu> what application can I use to draw arrows and text into a png image
[22:31] <Anderson1> toni_,  I stand corrected, it must have been in the multiverse, which I just opened in my sources.list
[22:31] <Anderson1> or universe
[22:31] <toni_> Anderson1,  i dunno but there is
[22:31] <toni_> i got it by apt-get
[22:31] <Anderson1> toni_, installing now
[22:31] <toni_> Anderson1,  ggos :)
[22:31] <toni_> good
[22:33] <nickrud> Ximal, gimp
[22:33] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Thanks for the help.
[22:33] <sandr-> whats the commandline way to empty the trash bin as root ?
[22:33] <nickrud> simu, gimp , sorry Ximal
[22:33] <chuy> /join #Maxtor
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> sandr-:  each user has their own trash directory
[22:33] <ZiNC2^6> XBehave: Thanks for the info.
[22:33] <toni_> sandr rm .trash/*
[22:33] <sandr-> k thanks
[22:33] <andromeda> hi
[22:34] <andromeda> i've a little problem
[22:34] <andromeda> i've add an user...
[22:34] <toni_> welcome in the club
[22:34] <nickrud> hi from this galaxy, andromeda
[22:34] <chuy> take a number
[22:34] <toni_> chuy,  did you solved?
[22:34] <andromeda> :D
[22:34] <andromeda> nickrud,
[22:34] <andromeda> :D
[22:34] <chuy> no...
[22:34] <XBehave> np
[22:34] <andromeda> cool!
[22:34] <andromeda> hahhaha
[22:34] <andromeda> i've a problem
[22:34] <vocx> !enter | andromeda
[22:34] <ubotu> andromeda: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[22:34] <speedbird> nickrud you there ?
[22:34] <jonaskoelker> question:  I want NetworkManager, when choosing a network (SSID) to connect to, to test for the presence of certain SSIDs and connect to those if present, or $ANY otherwise;  how can I do this?
[22:34] <chuy> I boot up without the IDE, and I get Windows.
[22:34] <rodolfo> nickrud: hm i think the article has something to do with the file i'm trying to install. they talk about the new features but there is no .deb files to dl
[22:34] <nickrud> speedbird, sure
[22:34] <chuy> I boot up with the IDE, and GRUB stalls out
[22:34] <andromeda> i' wont to do at my new user the admin controll
[22:35] <andromeda> how i can to do this?
[22:35] <speedbird> nickrud : man i have another problem now :P
[22:35] <whoaje> I have a upgrade question for the latest ubuntu distro....I have my laptop dual booted with xp and was wondering how safe it is to upgrade my ubuntu distro ?
[22:35] <toni_> andromeda,  is this user called root?
[22:35] <andromeda> no
[22:35] <nickrud> rodolfo, no, it's so dang new it's still in the developers repositories. I don't know enough about X to really help with this
[22:35] <Praveen> whoaje: im pretty sure its quite safe
[22:35] <andromeda> is not the user called root..
[22:35] <andromeda> is an other user...
[22:35] <jonaskoelker> whoaje: I'd say it's perfectly safe unless you have a particular reason to believe otherwise
[22:36] <toni_> andromeda, you want to be as if he is root?
[22:36] <andromeda> yes
[22:36] <Praveen> whoaje: it willl just upgrade the kernel and stuff and write new lines into the grub
[22:36] <speedbird> nickrud I cant install pidgin i get this error that i have gaim installed and something like that.
[22:36] <toni_> andromeda,  idon't think is a good idea
[22:36] <whoaje> praveen, I am using the windows boot loader for the dual boot
[22:36] <rodolfo> nickrud: its ok. can you recommend some X-related forum or FAQ? (i've already read the X.org's FAQ)
[22:36] <nickrud> speedbird, I don't know much at all about pidgin, never used it
[22:36] <whoaje> still thinks its alright?
[22:36] <Praveen> whoaje: then you might have a problem.
[22:37] <speedbird> oh alright i m trying to find something on ubuntu forums :)
[22:37] <Praveen> speedbird: you might want to purge your gaim installation
[22:37] <andromeda> ok..
[22:37] <jonaskoelker> whoaje: except for perhaps grub, I can't imagine how one OS would affect the other, and AIUI, the updates to grub are on the linux partition, not in the boot sectors
[22:37] <toni_> speedbird,  you have to remove gaim
[22:37] <jonaskoelker> whoaje: ... so, you're safe
[22:37] <speedbird> toni i tried but that gives me some error too
[22:37] <jonaskoelker> whoaje: that is (as it always is) if the software is Bug Free (tm) ;)
[22:37] <toni_> speedbird,  pastebin  the errors
[22:38] <Raism> hi everyone.... can anyone plz give me some help with my tvtuner ??
[22:38] <nickrud> rodolfo, you could try subscribing to http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg , and asking there. No promises, though. Sometimes the developers of projects are helpful, sometimes not
[22:38] <roman2k> somebody was using Wine for CS 1.6?
[22:38] <whoaje> ha, yeah....ok, thanks, I'll just be cautious with it...
[22:38] <toni_> cs?
[22:38] <speedbird> toni_, ok hold on
[22:38] <toni_> yes
[22:38] <jonaskoelker> Raism: I probably can't, but if you're more specific, probably someone else can :)
[22:38] <roman2k> Counter Strike =)
[22:38] <Praveen> speedbird: the #pidgin channel is open if you want tot go there. seems less busy than this
[22:38] <toni_> roman2k, omg :)
[22:38] <rodolfo> nickrud: good idea. thank you :)
[22:38] <jonaskoelker> Raism: say, you could tell what the problem is
[22:38] <nickrud> andromeda, you want to give a new user admin privileges? Nothing wrong with it, if you want them to have it
[22:39] <Raism> yes jonas
[22:39] <speedbird> Parveen, oh that would be perfect then .. i m going there thx :D
[22:39] <ubuntu> hola
[22:39] <vocx> Can anyone try "mkdir ~some_directory~" and confirm that the tildes make the directory invisible in nautilus? Is this a known issue?
[22:39] <jonaskoelker> can anyone help me with network manager?
[22:39] <ubuntu> en español
[22:39] <ubuntu> nadie ?
[22:39]  * nickrud goes off to watch the seahawks demolish the redskins
[22:39] <Raism> i have pinacle usb2 tv tuner...from gstreamer and video i can see my tuner...but no singla form tvtime
[22:39] <andromeda> yes nickrud
[22:39] <whoaje> thanks for the help, guys
[22:39] <andromeda> i've to do this now..
[22:39] <andromeda> i try
[22:39] <yeyosss> hi
[22:40] <vocx> !es | ubuntu
[22:40] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:40] <ZiNC2^6> ubuntu: hi.
[22:40] <ubuntu> alguien que hable español
[22:40] <sarah> hi! flash plays but without sound and im at a loss how to troubleshot
[22:40] <sarah> shoot\
[22:40] <jonaskoelker> vocx: mkdir "~tmp~", nautilus &, I see no ~tmp~
[22:40] <nickrud> andromeda, in a terminal as the first user,  sudo adduser <newusername> admin
[22:40] <slipttees> hey
[22:40] <vocx> jonaskoelker, thanks, I just recently discovered this. Is it a bug?
[22:40] <Praveen> hablo puqueno espanol
[22:40] <slipttees> i have some problem with fluxbuntu
[22:41] <slipttees> don't have repo ??
[22:41] <jonaskoelker> vocx: I say it's a bug; I don't know whether it's filed/known/fixed-upstream/..., though
[22:41] <jonaskoelker> sarah: playing sound generally works, yes?
[22:41] <ribow> s
[22:41] <ribow> alo alo
[22:41] <sarah> jonaskoelker: ya
[22:42] <ribow> francais
[22:42] <jonaskoelker> !fr
[22:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[22:42] <vocx> jonaskoelker, usually these issues are addressed in the launchpad page, but I found nothing relevant. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus
[22:42] <andromeda> now it works...
[22:42] <andromeda> thanks!
[22:42] <jonaskoelker> vocx: I'd say file it, then ;)
[22:42] <denny> when totem-xine segfaults on attempting to play a DVD, what do I need to look at?
[22:42] <dubbydubby> hey
[22:42] <jonaskoelker> sarah: does playing sound in firefox work?
[22:42] <sarah> ya
[22:42] <ribow> tu parl francais
[22:42] <jonaskoelker> !fr | ribow
[22:42] <ubotu> ribow: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[22:42] <PurpZeY> !fr | ribow
[22:43] <jonaskoelker> sarah: hmm...
[22:43] <sarah> my thoughts xactly
[22:43] <ribow> alo alo