[12:46] <ari-tczew> hi. we are already in UserInterfaceFreeze. can I upload a new upstream bug-fix only release without FFe?
[12:56] <bluesabre> greetings sponsors, would somebody like to upload light-locker-1.2.1 to trusty?
[12:57] <bluesabre> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker/+bug/1293100
[12:57] <bluesabre> This release addresses a security concern, if light-locker is not currently running when light-locker-command "locks" the screen, the user is sent to vt8 without their session protected
[12:58] <bluesabre> this does not send to a new VT if light-locker is not running, instead producing a message that it is not running (similar to how xscreensaver behaves)
[12:58] <bluesabre> please let me know if there are any questions :)
[16:49] <Riddell> mardy: hopeful sunday ping?
[18:31] <juliank> bdmurray: python-apt can be synced now again, let us avoid the diff, even if its small (sync request: bug 1293193)
[18:31] <juliank> There are really no other changes apart from merging the Ubuntu changes.
[18:34] <juliank> It's not the most useful sync currently, but it should help (if no other changes will be done), to get automatic syncs then after trusty release.
[18:35] <Laney> juliank: I can do that - or is there some reason you asked bdmurray directly?
[18:35] <juliank> Laney: Fine with me. I just told him, because he did the last two uploads.
[18:36] <Laney> fair
[18:43] <infinity> juliank: Iz done.
[18:44] <juliank> infinity: thanks, cool.
[18:45] <Laney> Weird, I just said I was doing it
[18:46] <Laney> Anyway, good
[18:46] <infinity> Laney: Oh, I read that how you wrote it "I can do that".  And then went and looked, and you hadn't, so assume you meant that you can, not that you were going to. :P
[18:47] <Laney> Yeah, I was test building and the making a cup of tea :P
[18:47] <Laney> No matter
[18:47] <infinity> Ahh, I didn't test build.  If it's FTBFS, then so would the previous version have been if rebuilt, so buggy either way.
[19:57] <juliank> Is there a project on launchpad about Ubuntu mirrors where I can reassign bug 1027905 to=
[19:57] <juliank> ?
[20:12] <highvoltage> ue/win 12
[20:17] <infinity> juliank: That's not necessarily a bug at all, if the .ar servers have been deemed to not be able to handle the load or something.
[20:18] <juliank> infinity: Maybe, but it's most definitely not a python-apt bug. So I just reassigned it to Ubuntu (without a package) for now.
[20:18] <infinity> juliank: But #ubuntu-mirrors is probably the right place to redirect it to.
[20:19] <infinity> juliank: Not sure if there's an approriate LP project, but they'd know.
[21:09] <Thedemon007> ubuntu have secuity issues in chromium-browser ?? version ubuntu 32.0.1700.107 debian: 32.0.1700.123 http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/c/chromium-browser/chromium-browser_32.0.1700.123-1~deb7u1_changelog
[21:10] <Thedemon007> The changelog of ubuntu does not show much information. Chromium.org say linux	stable 33.0.1750.152
[21:22] <petersaints> hi guys. I'm having a problem with the Network Manager. It gets the correct IPv6 adresses for my /64 prefix (a MAC based one and another through IPv6 privacy extensions). They show up on ifconfig but they do not show up on "nm-tool" output (the information is also missing from the GUI). I have a feeling that this was working ok up until a few days ago, so I'm not sure if there was some update that broke this. Anyone has an idea about
[21:22] <petersaints> this issue? I was searching for bugs on launchpad and the most similar think I could get was this old and Invalid bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/375088
[21:23] <petersaints> Also, if I set the address manually it sows up just ok.
[21:24] <petersaints> I forgot to mention that I'm running Trusty ;)


[00:00] <cmaloney> Evening
[00:09] <rick_h_> evening
[00:22] <rick_h_> man, the bookie traffic lately is kind of nuts
[00:30] <cmaloney> I think it's because GSoC is heating up again
[00:31] <rick_h_> well what's cool is people using it
[00:31] <rick_h_> had people with bugs running their own, someone wants AD support, another person doing the irc bot thing
[00:32] <cmaloney> Nice!
[00:40] <cmaloney> Hooking up with AD, eh? That might be a fun one
[00:40] <cmaloney> Have played a bit with LDAP but not enough where I'd want to see if I could get it working with generic AD
[00:41] <cmaloney> But you can bet your bippy if we ever need a bookmarking app for work I'll be providing patches. :)
[00:44] <rick_h_> well I'd let velruse deal with it
[01:03] <cmaloney> http://www.reddit.com/r/progmetal/comments/2nrqe4/this_guy_made_a_program_that_randomly_creates_a/
[12:45] <tony-smlr> SMLR E140 (11/30/2014) -Going Live Soon- Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1oj-K0wxSo - Audio: http://live.smlr.us:8000/streaming
[14:58] <cmaloney> Good morning
[22:19] <cmaloney> I wish I could get it through some wanker's thick skull (who happens to share my name) that he doesn't own<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:19] <cmaloney> Apparently he signed up for an EA account
[22:31] <rick_h_> heh, time to buy some games?
[22:32] <cmaloney> Yeah, no kidding
[22:32] <cmaloney> And I love that the email they sent to me is from an unmonitored account so sending mail back to them is futile.
[22:33] <cmaloney> Just turned on two-factor auth though
[23:13] <rick_h_> and the office cleanup for the long weekend is complete https://flic.kr/p/pY3gx7 phew
[23:13] <rick_h_> and what a crappy shot :)
[23:14] <cmaloney> Damn, that's one clean office
[23:14] <rick_h_> so much crap thrown out
[23:14] <rick_h_> one nice long open spot for the new desk to go into
[23:14] <cmaloney> Nice. :)


[12:22] <ball> Interesting
[12:22] <ball> What kind of community is it?
[12:23] <Solifugus> ball... honestly.. it should be clearer about what interface it is asking for during installation... and it should not, by default, hand out dhcp to any device that asks.. and, honestly, these services shouldn't be on by default...  It gives linux a bad name when a simple mistake can cause so much damage.
[12:23] <Solifugus> to a network..
[12:23] <Solifugus> I just suggesting a few default changes for safety and security...
[12:24] <ball> Solifugus: ah, okay.
[12:24] <ball> I would have thought it was important to make clear which interface was for the terminal network and which for the outside world.
[12:25] <ball> racter: are you building a mesh network too?
[12:25] <racter> ball: it's just a neighborhood lab on the near south side (pilsen which is a mostly latin(o|a) neighborhood)
[12:25] <racter> ball: yeah!  sort of.
[12:25] <racter> trying to get it going again but it's been hard to organize ;)
[12:26] <ball> racter: have you looked at what they're doing in Urbana, or at smesh.org ?
[12:26] <ball> Ah, I see links to CUwin
[12:26] <ball> ...that answers that question
[12:26] <racter> ya the urbana stuff is an important model for us - but i don't know smesh
[12:27] <racter> but checking it out now :)
[12:32] <ball> hello jgedeon
[12:33] <jgedeon> Hello ball.
[12:34] <ball> It's nice that mesh routers are available off-the-shelf now (I'm looking at the linked Meraki stuff)
[12:34] <racter> yeah that stuff looks really cool
[12:34] <racter> & cheap
[12:41] <ball> racter: that's a big attraction.  I wonder how proprietary it is though.
[12:42] <ball> ...could probably do the same thing in a more extensible way using Linksys wireless routers.
[12:42] <ball> hello kleinmat, n2diy
[12:42] <racter> ball - ya true, or recycled pc's with cuwin software
[12:43] <n2diy> hi ball
[12:45] <ball> racter: of course, it's harder to persuade people to put an IBM 5170 on their window sill ;-)
[12:46] <ball> Isn't Pilson where they have the big May 5th party?
[12:47] <racter> ya there are a lot of big parties down here ;)
[12:53] <ball> I have to go to lunch now.  Hopefully back in about half an hour.
[04:16] <ball> hello bronze
[04:23] <ball> racter: may I PM you?
[04:57] <andrew____> I'm early on the Linux learning curve seeking to build a school network.  So far I've got thin client authentication working.  Can someone confirm that Ubuntu has the ability to do "thick" client authenticatiion comparable to an MS Windows environment.
[04:58] <ball> hello andrew____
[04:58] <andrew____> Howdy
[05:01] <ball> Are your "thin clients" really X terminals?
[05:05] <ball> Will your "thick clients" be PCs running the "Desktop" edition of Edubuntu?
[05:06] <andrew____> The thin client I have set up to test with is an X terminal, though I could just as easily run desktop on it, if it helps performance.
[05:07] <ball> I think the choice is probably less about performance and more about ease of management
[05:07] <ball> (with the thin client setup, you have one Linux machine to manage instead of a roomful)
[05:08] <ball> ...you could also do away with hard disks and things if that's convenient or desirable)
[05:08] <ball> (if I'm reading the Web page correctly)
[05:08] <andrew____> Thin clients are a snap to manage. I get this...but we're also likely to be investing in Laptops because of portability...I want to keep the school on the same platform, largely, but not every machine will be a thin client.
[05:09] <andrew____> Can ubuntu run authentication for the non thin clients on the same userbase as the thin client server.
[05:11] <ball> Thing about laptops is, they get lost, stolen and/or broken.
[05:11] <andrew____> Well, I'm seeing LDAP and NFS in different places, but it doesn't look user friendly at all.
[05:11] <ball> ...they seem like ideal candidates.
[05:11] <ball> (to be X terminals)
[05:11] <andrew____> Yes, but don't you need a gigabit network if you're running more than a dozen X terminals?
[05:12] <andrew____> Wireless doesn't have those speeds, right?
[05:13] <andrew____> The cards in the Dells our school is considering are 54 MB/s...how would this affect performance?
[05:13] <ball> andrew____: I'm not sure you need gigabit... I would probably use a gigabit link to the server and 100baseTX to each workstation
[05:13] <ball> How many of the terminals would be wireless?
[05:14] <andrew____> For now, 15 out of 70.
[05:14] <ball> Might be worth running separate Linux installs then, despite the management headache.
[05:14] <andrew____> But you can't buy laptops without hard drives, can you?
[05:15] <ball> The edubuntu people can probably give you a more clear idea of what the practical limits are.
[05:15] <andrew____> But what's the authentication protocol?
[05:15] <ball> andrew____: probably not, sadly.
[05:16] <andrew____> I'm trying to decide whether Ubuntu has enough "enterprise level" tools to actually run a larger network.
[05:16] <ball> andrew____: I don't know what they use.
[05:16] <ball> Kerberos?
[05:16] <ball> I'm not keen on Ubuntu, but edubuntu is an interesting project.
[05:17] <ball> perhaps "product" is the word there.
[05:17] <ball> There's enough people in the channel that you'd think there'd be someone around in a position to advise.
[05:18] <andrew____> I'll keep poking my head in and asking.
[05:18] <ball> ok
[05:18] <andrew____> thanks for your two cents.
[05:18] <ball> I'm not sure it was worth that much ;-)
[05:19] <ball> My idea of using gigabit uplink to the server and 100baseTX to the terminals is so that no one terminal can choke the connection to the server.
[05:19] <ball> I'm interested in knowing what people here think of that.
[05:20] <ball> Suppose the logic breaks down above about eight terminals though ;-)
[05:21] <andrew____> I'm thinking of how a building is plumbed, and your concept seems good by analogy.
[05:22] <andrew____> I'm not sure water and data packets enjoy the same physics, though...
[05:22] <andrew____> If a switch is 1000B/s on one side and 100B/s on the other, doesn'
[05:23] <ball> I'm told a decent switch will buffer the frames appropriately.
[05:23] <andrew____> doesn't that make the whole network 100?
[05:23] <ball> No, it shouldn't.
[05:23] <ball> (unless your switch is really broken)
[05:23] <andrew____> Hmmm that's good to know.
[05:24] <andrew____> I was thinking in terms of frequency transmission.  An AM tuner can't decipher FM signals...but I guess a switch is set up to autodetect...
[05:25] <ball> If I had a large network to build (I don't, mine are all small), I'd extend the concept to craft a non-blocking (or at least a less-blocking) network
[05:25] <ball> AM and FM are different animals to 1000baseT and 100baseTX
[05:25] <ball> (a switch buffers the frames)
[05:26] <andrew____> A frame is a packet of digital info set to a carrier frequency, no?
[05:27] <andrew____> Perhaps I'm sorely miscomprehending network data transmission.
[05:27] <ball> Yes, you're talking about radio (which I understand)
[05:27] <ball> Ethernet (at least the kind we're talking about) is baseband, no carrier involved.
[05:28] <ball> Suppose you had an AM receiver, a mag tape loop and an FM transmitter
[05:28] <ball> ...that's your ethernet switch ;-)
[05:29] <ball> It receives, stores and then forwards.
[05:29] <ball> (bad analogy, but it fits your description)
[05:30] <andrew____> Baseband means what, that the 0s and 1s are arriving at whatever frequency they arrive at? There's no uniformity to their transmission?
[05:30] <ball> No, you're describing asynchronous transmission there.
[05:31] <ball> forget frequency.
[05:31] <ball> Your AM and FM analogy made me think of radio, where the information is modulated onto a radio frequency carrier
[05:31] <ball> 100baseTX and 1000baseT don't use a carrier like that, so the AM/FM thing is only good as a (very) loose analogy
[05:32] <ball> It's best avoided because there are networks where they're used in the literal sense.
[05:32] <ball> (but not usually wired local area networks)
[05:33] <ball> baseband means "with no carrier"
[05:33] <ball> broadband (used to) mean(s) with an RF carrier
[05:33] <andrew____> I'm just trying to imagine what's actually occurring, in terms of voltage, in those 8 wires.  You referred to a "frame"...which I assume is a packet that is enclosed in some kind of marker...
[05:33] <ball> andrew____: yes, a frame is an Ethernet "packet"
[05:34] <ball> inside your frames (perhaps broken up) are IP datagrams ("Internet packets")
[05:34] <ball> frame and datagram are less ambiguous terms.
[05:34] <ball> Someone says "packet" to me, I have to figure out what they mean by the context of the conversation.
[05:35] <andrew____> So these arrive and get stored in the RAM of the switch, and then re-transmitted.
[05:35] <ball> Probably not in ordinary RAM, more likely in a shift register inside a chip inside the switch
[05:35] <ball> (sane people try not to think too much about that ;-)
[05:36] <andrew____> And bottlenecks occur when the switch can accept all the new packets that are arriving?
[05:36] <andrew____> can't, rather
[05:36] <andrew____> I'm a physics teacher, insane by creed.
[05:37] <ball> Modern switches are apparently able to ask the device at the other end of a cable to stop sending (some kind of flow control).  I don't know the details.  One of the nice things about Ethernet (and especially IP) is that if things get too clogged up, the switch has the option of simply discarding frames.
[05:37] <ball> Do you know about the ISO 7-layer model?
[05:38] <ball> ISO OSI.
[05:38] <andrew____> No
[05:38] <andrew____> I've seen it in spec, but just glossed over it.
[05:38] <ball> first hit: http://networking.ringofsaturn.com/Protocols/sevenlayer.php
[05:39] <ball> I haven't read that, so I don't know how poorly it's written
[05:39] <ball> Basic theory is that there are layers... at the bottom you have the hardware itself and the voltages that physics teachers love.
[05:39] <ball> Above that you have framing and all the nice Ethernet stuff
[05:39] <ball> Above that you have the network layer, which is where IP lives.
[05:39] <andrew____> That looks great!  I've got it bookmarked
[05:41] <ball> I have to do a lab science as part of my degree.  If I were not mathematically challenged, physics might be fun.
[05:42] <ball> Oh well, I'll have to take tree-hugging or something.
[05:42] <ball> "Astronomy without maths"
[05:42] <andrew____> You're a CS major?
[05:43] <ball> Another 7-layer link: http://pablotron.org/download/7_layer_burrito.html
[05:43] <ball> I.T, because C.S. implies Maths.
[05:43] <ball> ...and maths is numbers >1
[05:43] <ball> (== scary)
[05:44] <andrew____> Think about all the scary numbers in between zero and one....
[05:44] <andrew____> ;)
[05:45] <andrew____> With some division, you could get all the other numbers.
[05:46] <ball> Sorry, I only work with integers
[05:46] <andrew____> Good 4 u
[05:47] <andrew____> Hey, it's been interesting...thanks for the tips on network protocols...I've got a long way to go!
[05:47] <andrew____> To each his scary, abstract fancy.
[05:48] <andrew____> I've got to sleep so my students don't eat me for breakfast.
[05:48] <ball> Sleep well
[05:48] <andrew____> cheers
[05:59] <sbalneav> Evening all
[06:03] <ball> hello sbalneav
[06:03] <sbalneav> Hello
[06:21] <ball> brb
[06:27] <ball> Oh well, I'm going home.
[06:28] <ball> Goodbye silent readers.
[06:42] <bligoes> hallo all
[11:21] <johnsoncls> i am new django how to configure apache2 to create a site
[01:20] <RichEd> ogra: ping
[01:20] <ogra> hey :/
[01:21] <ogra> what a wasted day
[01:21] <RichEd> damn shame :(
[01:21] <ogra> yeah
[01:21] <RichEd> i've phoned anestis but he is on voicemail ...
[01:21] <ogra> i had two trains t chhose from ... and i even took the one that went earlier ...
[01:21] <RichEd> i'm looking at the agenda to see what we can do online tomorrow
[01:21] <ogra> but that still didnt help :/
[01:22] <RichEd> i'll get back to you via email ... in the meanwhile can you look again at hosting options ?
[01:22] <ogra> (that one left me a 1.5h buffer .... which i lost due to their construction crap)
[01:22] <RichEd> anestis said you can use a provide outside of the UK if it is cheaper
[01:22] <RichEd> *provider
[01:22] <ogra> i thought we did that already ... iirc heno recommended something to us we wanted to book
[01:22] <ogra> but i'll dig my mail
[01:22] <RichEd> thanks ...
[01:23] <RichEd> will it be faily easy to install moodle remotely ?
[01:23] <RichEd> *fairly
[01:23] <jsgotangco> yes
[01:23] <RichEd> jsgotangco: thanks :)
[01:23] <ogra> indeed
[01:24] <ogra> but it would be preferable to have it on ubuntu indeed :)
[01:24] <RichEd> ogra: I'll check out the latest moodle specs / features and 3rd pary options and give them a report on what we have, and what is being developed by other people and what else is still needed according to the "wishlist"
[01:24] <ogra> so finding the right provider that offers us full ubuntu support is the tricky bit ;)
[01:24] <jsgotangco> right
[01:25] <RichEd> it does not have to be on ubuntu immediately ... we can port it later, but it will be good to find someone who will host a box for us with our choice of operating system
[01:25] <ogra> RichEd, i talked to the moodle business dept. at linuxtag for nearly 1h ... not much outcome there (tie guys) but we should mentin te contact
[01:26] <ogra> RichEd, porting the data over from an ancient version (which is what i'll get on other distros) is a lot of work i'd like to avoid
[01:26] <RichEd> okay ... and we should also look at the calendar for moodle moots (I think they call their meetings that) in local areas of the partners
[01:26] <ogra> yeah
[01:28] <ogra> i think we should propbably start pushing for LoCo based support teams here as well, as soon as we ship moodle by default
[02:18] <jsgotangco> !
[02:18] <jsgotangco> moodle by default is fantastic!
[05:17] <sbalneav> Morning all
[05:17] <ogra> hey hey
[05:17] <sbalneav> Hey!
[05:17] <sbalneav> In Sweden?
[05:17] <ogra> nope
[05:31] <RichEd> hi ogra ... kalle keeps popping in and out
[05:32] <ogra> oh, where ?
[05:32] <RichEd> Trying to get the message to him ... I've aked the hotel to pass it on to Anestis tonight.
[05:32] <ogra> antoniou talked to me
[05:32] <RichEd> ogra: * kalle<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #edubuntu
[05:32] <ogra> and with him anestis
[05:32] <ogra> ah
[05:33] <bddebian> Heya
[08:03] <Jalex> I am having a problem and am getting no good advice about the solution. I upgraded to 7.04 this week and my server
[08:04] <Jalex> will not boot : "RAMDISK: ran out of compressed data"
[08:04] <Jalex> Kernel Panic
[08:04] <Jalex> Any Ideas?
[08:04] <sbalneav> That doesn't sound right.
[08:05] <sbalneav> Sounds like the kernel is mucked up.
[08:05] <sbalneav> When you see the grub message, on startup, hit escape, and see if there's a previous version of the kernel you can boot from..
[08:06] <Jalex> will do
[08:10] <Jalex> booted ok in previous kernel
[08:11] <Jalex> is there a way to remove the offending kernel?
[08:12] <sbalneav> aptitude purge <kernelpackage>
[08:13] <sbalneav> then probably try re-installing it.
[08:13] <Jalex> thanks
[11:08] <Peaceful> Can anyone recommend decent cheap thin-client hardware to use with an edubuntu classroom server?
[11:13] <Peaceful> Kamping_Kaiser: yes, and I've found all the spare pc's available and stripped them, but I still need to get 10 more thin clients up
[11:47] <Peaceful> I'm hoping to find a thin client for around $100.  Anyone found something like that that works?
[11:50] <Peaceful> I'd have to add keyboard, mouse, & monitor, obviously.


[08:15] <didrocks> larsu: hey, good morning!
[08:15] <didrocks> larsu: some free karma of the morning: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/indicator-application/bootstrap/+merge/135603
[08:16] <larsu> good morning didrocks
[08:16] <larsu> approved
[08:16] <larsu> thanks :)
[08:17] <larsu> didrocks, do you need the Status set to approved as well?
[08:18] <didrocks> larsu: yes please ;)
[08:18] <didrocks> larsu: not sure how much karma you'll get for that :p
[08:19] <didrocks> 0.03? ;)
[08:19] <larsu> didrocks, I'll do it anyway, for human karma ;)
[08:20] <didrocks> heh
[08:20] <didrocks> :)
[08:22] <sil2100> Morning!
[08:22] <sil2100> I see karma is important around here ;)
[08:22] <didrocks> ahah :)
[08:25] <didrocks> sil2100: want some as well? https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/indicator-datetime/refreshcopyright/+merge/135605
[08:26] <sil2100> ! ;)
[08:36] <didrocks> sil2100: thanks!
[08:40] <sil2100> didrocks: np! I'm starting to like the karma-gathering idea!
[08:41] <didrocks> heh, I don't really care about karma for a long time TBH :)
[08:46] <sil2100> I didn't as well, up until now ;P!
[10:45] <didrocks> Mirv: hey, do you know the progress on the test failing on armhf? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/123686671/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-armhf.unity_6.12.0bzr2922pkg0quantal93_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[10:45] <didrocks> Mirv: it's been the case for some days, I wonder if we shouldn't revert the offending commit
[10:46] <sil2100> didrocks: some of them seem to fail due to longer delay times than expected, so hm
[10:47] <didrocks> sil2100: want to work on them? to get all the praise and fame? :)
[10:49] <sil2100> Will I get free karma :D ?
[10:49] <sil2100> But jokes aside, I'll look into that now then
[10:50] <didrocks> sil2100: you will, but not the same definition of free :)
[10:50] <didrocks> sil2100: thanks a lot!
[11:11] <sil2100> didrocks: btw. do you know by any chance what happened to the  unity-2d SRU?
[11:11] <sil2100> Did it get rejected somewhere?
[11:12] <sil2100> Since I can't see it in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[11:12] <didrocks> sil2100: what version was it?
[11:12] <sil2100> 5.14
[11:13] <sil2100>  5.14.0-0ubuntu1
[11:13] <sil2100> To be exact
[11:14] <didrocks> sil2100: isn't the one that I didn't sponsor before UDS because we couldn't juts take trunk for SRUing?
[11:14] <didrocks> sil2100: IIRC, I told you that
[11:14] <sil2100> didrocks: but we fixed during UDS all the problems
[11:14] <sil2100> And you even released  5.14.0-0ubuntu1 in lp:unity-2d
[11:14] <sil2100> To precise-proposed
[11:15] <sil2100> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-2d-team/unity-2d/trunk/revision/1143
[11:15] <didrocks> sil2100: I didn't see any rejection
[11:15] <didrocks> sil2100: let me push it again then
[11:15] <sil2100> Since we reverted the commits that were wrong, fixed the SRU bug problems and things like that - maybe hm, it somehow didn't make it to the queue?
[11:15] <didrocks> it's not in unapprove for sure
[11:15] <sil2100> Phew
[11:15] <didrocks> -rw-rw-r--  1 didrocks didrocks    350 oct.  30 14:00 unity-2d_5.14.0-0ubuntu1_source.ubuntu.upload
[11:15] <didrocks> hum
[11:15] <sil2100> Thanks
[11:15] <didrocks> so I uploaded that day
[11:16] <sil2100> huh? hm
[11:16] <sil2100> So maybe no one picked it up?
[11:16] <didrocks> oh sorry
[11:16] <didrocks> I looked at the quantal unapprove queue
[11:16] <didrocks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=unity-2d
[11:16] <didrocks> it's still unapproved :/
[11:16] <Mirv> sil2100: thanks for looking into the test issue... I think it's indeed more of a "slow machine" issue than specifically arm?
[11:16] <didrocks> the SRU team is really really late
[11:16] <didrocks> sil2100: you should look at those urls btw ^ :)
[11:17] <didrocks> they are quite useful
[11:17] <sil2100> didrocks: bookmarking that!
[11:17] <Mirv> yeah lots of good SRU:s, waiting
[11:17] <sil2100> Mirv: indeed, although anyway we need to fix those tests to not fail on slow-machines, since for ARM that might happen
[11:18] <sil2100> Will do that, just wanted to sort out what happened with unity-2d ;)
[11:24] <didrocks> sil2100: s/might/probably/
[11:24] <didrocks> :)
[12:44] <popey> Is there a reliable way to restart compiz / unity on quantal? For me running "compiz --replace" often ends up with compiz barfing and not restarting.
[12:46] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1377016/ is what I get in my .xsession-errors if I "compiz --replace"
[13:55] <didrocks> sil2100: you want karma? https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/unity/add-changelog/+merge/135694
[13:55] <didrocks> :)
[14:03]  * popey gets the karma before sil2100  has a chance
[14:13] <didrocks> :)
[18:28] <bobweaver> Umm what is up with CMakeList.txt ?
[18:28] <bobweaver> what is strequal true
[18:28] <bobweaver> abd why is there not this built into build-deps
[18:30] <bobweaver> and of cource like always no one in the fucken unity team will help me just like the last 2 years
[18:30] <bobweaver> got to all this on my own
[18:30] <bobweaver> what a TEAM
[18:31] <bobweaver> Stupid traanslation bullcrap that does not work
[18:31] <bobweaver> strequal true bull s^&*
[18:33] <bobweaver> if (${GETTEXT_FOUND} STREQUAL "TRUE")
[18:33] <bobweaver>         set (HAVE_GETTEXT true)
[18:33] <bobweaver>         file (GLOB _translations ${CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR}/po/*.po)
[18:33] <bobweaver>         GETTEXT_CREATE_TRANSLATIONS (${CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR}/po/${PROJECT_NAME}.pot
[18:33] <bobweaver>                 ALL ${_translations})
[18:33] <bobweaver> endif (${GETTEXT_FOUND} STREQUAL "TRUE")
[18:33] <bobweaver> [18:35] <bobweaver> IF statement is wrong and needs to be fixed that is not a valid argument
[18:36] <MCR1> bobweaver: Ignorance is bliss ;)
[18:36] <bobweaver> MCR1,  it is not ignorance you are ignorant with such statements
[18:37] <bobweaver> you can help kickban me but that just shows me more
[18:37] <popey> bobweaver, chill dude...
[18:37] <popey> lets see if we can find someone who can help
[18:37] <MCR1> stop throwing stones @ me, I am just a volunteer contributor from the community (and I will not ban any free speech for sure)
[18:39] <bobweaver> sorry MCR1  just dont call me ignorant  , popey  sorry you are right frustrating because I clean and now update and upgrade and no build anymore
[18:39] <popey> bobweaver, i think you misunderstood. he wasn't insulting you, calling you ignorant
[18:39] <MCR1> bobweaver: I did not call you ignorant, please re-read ;)
[18:40] <bobweaver> Ok I said that I was sorry. can we get back to topic that Unity will not build because of this if statement
[18:41] <bobweaver> sorry again MCR1  that is one thing about IRC  you can not see facial expressions or read body lang
[18:41] <bobweaver> sorry again
[18:41] <sil2100> bobweaver: hi!
[18:41] <MCR1> np ;)
[18:41] <sil2100> bobweaver: let me take a look
[18:41] <popey> thanks sil2100
[18:41] <sil2100> bobweaver: but we've been having problems with building unity on raring because of this one as well it seems
[18:42] <bobweaver> sil2100,  it is not correct if statement
[18:42] <bobweaver> no bool like that
[18:42] <sil2100> I wonder why this worked on quantal, but seems to fail on raring
[18:43] <bobweaver> that is not all
[18:43] <bobweaver> compiz common is also failing if you remove the translation thingy
[18:44] <bobweaver> so I am guessing that compiz is different version and that is why it is erroroing out
[18:44] <bobweaver> guess key word
[18:44] <bobweaver> that is what cmake tells me
[18:45] <sil2100> bobweaver: the STREQUAL error you have pointed out just got fixed today:
[18:45] <sil2100> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/trunk/revision/2923
[18:46] <bobweaver> er build-deps is not calling compiz-plugins-*
[18:46] <bobweaver> sil2100,  thanks
[18:46] <bobweaver> again I dont mean to flip out. But somethimes it is the only way to get attention around these parts.
[18:47] <sil2100> bobweaver: no worries - next time the best way to get attention is probably pinging someone directly about a problem ;)
[18:48] <sil2100> Then someone should at least point to the right direction, or maybe even poke someone responsible for fixing the issue
[18:48] <sil2100> bobweaver: regarding the translation thing, not sure if I can help much, since I'm not up-to-date with that one
[18:48] <bobweaver> thanks sil2100  I just dont know anyone and kinda fell like I have been igored I am sure that other have also felt this way
[18:49] <sil2100> bobweaver: if you have something related to unity, poke me - I can then help you poke someone more competent if I, myself, won't be able to help
[18:49] <bobweaver> sil2100,  it is the bool factor I fixed it but now compiz is not right version and plugins are not right version so fixing that now
[18:49] <bobweaver> I just dont want to lose that code ;)
[18:49] <bobweaver> thanks sil2100  that is super cool of you
[18:50] <bobweaver> Like how it all happened with 2d
[18:50] <sil2100> bobweaver: hope it all goes well ;)
[18:51] <sil2100> See you later everyone!
[18:53] <bobweaver> popey, again thanks for smacking me around and telling me to chill :)
[18:54] <popey> heh, np
[18:55] <bobweaver> yeah  set (UNITY_DEPS      version numbers are all wrong and must be fixed
[18:56] <bobweaver> all compiz suff
[19:17] <bobweaver> again I would like to say that i am sorry for flipping my lid it was childish and I feel bad about it esp to MCR1
[19:20] <BigWhale> Greetings.
[19:21] <BigWhale> who's the goto guy for Launcher API? :)
[19:53] <bobweaver> maybe someone can help me understand this. But Why is there Unity-2d-* things in d/control ?
[19:53] <bobweaver> for 3d ^^
[19:54] <bobweaver> BigWhale,  what do you mean by api for launcher ?
[19:55] <BigWhale> bobweaver, I wonder if I can remove static quicklists from Launcher in my app.
[19:58] <bobweaver> quicklist is its own code look at launcher/Launcher.cpp
[19:58] <bobweaver> QuicklistManager& ql_manager = *(QuicklistManager::Default());
[19:58] <bobweaver>   ql_manager.quicklist_opened.connect(sigc::mem_fun(this, &Launcher::RecvQuicklistOpened));
[19:58] <bobweaver>   ql_manager.quicklist_closed.connect(sigc::mem_fun(this, &Launcher::RecvQuicklistClosed));
[19:59] <seb128> BigWhale, you mean?
[19:59] <bobweaver> lines 177 -> 182    http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/trunk/view/head:/launcher/Launcher.cpp
[19:59] <seb128> BigWhale, Trevinho and mhr3 are probably the guys to talk to about that
[19:59] <BigWhale> hm, there are a few static items in the quicklist for kazam. Added in the .desktop file.
[19:59] <seb128> BigWhale, why do you want to remove those?
[19:59] <BigWhale> I'd like to remove them when program starts.
[20:00] <bobweaver> BigWhale,  send  signal
[20:00] <BigWhale> they are used to invoke Kazam with certain switches. And if Kazam is already running, then I don't want them to invoke it one more time
[20:00] <bobweaver> i c
[20:01] <seb128> BigWhale, hum, interesting usecase ... not sure that got considered, try talking to ted (when it's not an U.S holiday) or maybe mhr3 or Trevinho
[20:01] <BigWhale> I will.
[20:02] <bobweaver> kazam is great btw BigWhale  little bit of mem hog but is great screen caster
[20:02] <BigWhale> I know I can avoid this by adding some sort of detection in kazam if in instance is already running and then connect to that or send a signal to it... but that seems like an overkill.
[20:02] <Trevinho> BigWhale: not possible at the moment :(
[20:02] <bobweaver> BigWhale,  you are releasing new version ?
[20:02] <BigWhale> bobweaver, thanks... :) most of the memory hogging is due to GStreamer :/
[20:02] <bobweaver> +1 ^^
[20:03]  * bobweaver looks at branch
[20:03] <BigWhale> bobweaver, VP8 encoder is leaking around 5MB/s when recording fullHD. :>
[20:03] <BigWhale> and that's MiBs
[20:04] <BigWhale> Trevinho, I see... Hmm. Then I guess I'll have to make a workaround. I'll figure out something.
[20:04] <bobweaver> yup I have noticed that it locks up system of mine though I only have i3 ad 4gigs ram :/
[20:04] <BigWhale> bobweaver, H264 should work.
[20:05] <bobweaver> thanks BigWhale  again great screencaster easy to use and great for uploading videos
[20:05] <bobweaver> kazam was used here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcepB1E1lX0
[20:06] <BigWhale> Great! It's good to see it in use. :)
[20:07] <bobweaver> That is another thing trying to get nux to render right in coverflow is not working too well like to have ubuntu-orange on selected itiem
[20:07] <bobweaver> but I added keyboard layout kinda works


[14:16] <YoBoY> good morning
[18:16] <minimalseeker> hi
[18:17] <minimalseeker> I am trying to do a minimal install of natty from the alternate cd and I have some questions
[18:24] <minimalseeker> I am having a couple issues: a) my ethernet is not being recognized during boot and install. It is a JMicron MC250 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 05) and the driver is here -> jme-<IP_ADDRESS>.tbz2 at ftp://driver.jmicron.com.tw/Ethernet/Linux/
[18:25] <minimalseeker> b) If I ignore this error and go through with the command line install using the alternate cd, the base system installs and then a whole sequence on "select and install software" runs as well. If it is a minimal installation, I dont understand why this second part should run in a command line install.
[18:27] <minimalseeker> c) After the whole installation completes, and the system reboots, I am greeted with a blank turned off screen. I googled to find that the blank screen is a result of a conflict with the ATI driver. http://byedesigns.com/2011/04/01/ubuntu-10-10-blank-screen-after-install-solved/
[18:28] <nigelb> minimalseeker: you should try #ubuntu or #ubuntu-beginners they are both support channels. while this channel is for loco team coordination
[18:28] <minimalseeker> oh! sorry...
[18:28] <minimalseeker> I will logout now.
[18:29] <minimalseeker> thanks for letting me know.
[18:29] <nigelb> No no, just ask in the other channel
[18:29] <minimalseeker> thanks, I will join the other channels.


[09:12] <cjwatson> bladernr: righto, thanks
[09:12] <cjwatson> cody-somerville: have a look at casper source, iirc it has a hashed version of the empty password
[09:38] <CIA-4> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1406 ubuntu/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Move to 2.6.38-1 kernels.
[09:40] <CIA-4> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1407 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20101020ubuntu13
[12:14] <CIA-4> console-setup: cjwatson * r380 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog keyboard-configuration.config):
[12:14] <CIA-4> console-setup: If we detect the above breakage (upgrading from anything between
[12:14] <CIA-4> console-setup: 1.57ubuntu1 and 1.57ubuntu4 inclusive, and the XKB* values in
[12:14] <CIA-4> console-setup: /etc/default/keyboard differ from the commented-out values in
[12:14] <CIA-4> console-setup: /etc/default/console-setup), reset to the commented-out values in
[12:14] <CIA-4> console-setup: /etc/default/console-setup.
[12:15] <cjwatson> I ended up not asking confirmatory debconf questions after all
[12:29] <ev> cjwatson: I was able to successfully create an isohybrid disk (though still trying to convince it to live entirely on a partition boot record / partition so that it plays nice with a second ext2 partition with a casper-rw label).
[12:29] <ev> cjwatson: however, I'm now concerned that reusing a disk would require wiping the contents unless the ISO size matched, and one of the design goals with usb-creator was to be as non-destructive as possible.  I guess we could pad it out a bit, but I still foresee issues.
[12:29] <ev> 'twould be nice if we could chainload a grub loopback'd iso, but that's obviously not possible.
[12:29] <ev> I guess usb-creator could grow partition resizing code, and we could put the hybrid iso at partition 2 to avoid an expensive move operation or having to wipe the disk on the first go.
[12:32] <cjwatson> is casper-rw always a file right now?
[12:32] <cjwatson> and how do you deal with reusing an existing disk at the moment?
[12:33] <CIA-4> console-setup: cjwatson * r381 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.57ubuntu5
[12:38] <ev> cjwatson: sorry, went for coffee.  Yes, casper-rw is always a file.
[12:38] <ev> we deal with reusing an existing disk by overwriting the files and always using vfat
[12:39] <cjwatson> so any file that's on the stick but not in the iso will be left untouched?
[12:39] <ev> to be clear, when I say non-destructive I mean in the sense that you can still use the disk to store files to share with windows without worrying about them getting deleted if you want to try a newer version of ubuntu
[12:39] <ev> correct
[12:40] <cjwatson> and of course using an iso9660 filesystem would lose the ability to store files directly on the disk
[12:40] <cjwatson> argh
[12:41] <ev> indeed
[12:44] <ev> also, the iso size may grow if I ever finish my branch to integrate a software center button (unsquashfs + chroot)
[12:45]  * ev ponders
[12:51] <cjwatson> and isolinux probably just doesn't understand vfat at all, so there's no way to do this with isolinux if you want to keep that properly
[12:51] <cjwatson> *property
[12:51] <cjwatson> so I suspect that a copy of old syslinux is the only way to solve the immediate problem :-(
[12:52] <ev> how would isolinux solve this if it did understand vfat?
[13:00] <ev> oh duh, sorry
[13:02] <ev> once we move to grub, could we pull grub from the CD boot record instead of writing our own using grub from the running system?
[13:07] <cjwatson> yeah, should be possible, and the grub core image can just be built with both iso9660 and vfat support
[13:08] <ev> awesome
[14:10] <cjwatson> ev: could you commit the user-setup 1.28ubuntu13 release to bzr?
[14:19] <cjwatson> ev: and do you think bug 562312 is still feasible for alpha-2?
[14:19] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 562312 in usb-creator "initramfs-tools failed to install/upgrade, due to not being able to write initrd or vmlinuz." [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/562312
[14:30] <ev> definitely, I'll get on that momentarily
[14:31] <cjwatson> great, thanks
[14:45] <CIA-4> casper: evand * r857 casper/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Don't disable the free space notifier if using persistent storage.
[14:55] <CIA-4> usb-creator: evand * r331 usb-creator/ (debian/changelog usbcreator/misc.py): Increase the minimum persistent storage size to 1G.
[14:55] <cjwatson> ev: any reason for me not to upload ubiquity?
[14:56] <ev> nope
[14:56] <ev> by all means
[14:56] <cjwatson> great, thanks, in progress
[15:00] <CIA-4> user-setup: evand * r234 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.28ubuntu13
[15:01] <cjwatson> ta
[15:01] <ev> sorry about that (again!)
[15:01] <ev> I'm going to start debcommit -r'ing immediately
[15:01] <ev> rather than waiting for the email
[15:05] <CIA-4> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4492 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[15:05] <CIA-4> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: clock-setup 0.106ubuntu1,
[15:05] <CIA-4> ubiquity: console-setup 1.57ubuntu5, partman-basicfilesystems 69ubuntu1,
[15:05] <CIA-4> ubiquity: partman-efi 23ubuntu1, partman-partitioning 79ubuntu1.
[15:06] <CIA-4> usb-creator: evand * r332 usb-creator/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Add a 30MB padding for the kernel and initramfs (LP: #562312).
[15:44] <CIA-4> usb-creator: evand * r333 usb-creator/ (debian/changelog po/usbcreator.pot): releasing version 0.2.27
[15:48] <CIA-4> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4493 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.5.12
[16:35] <ev> huh, I take it you can't suck the code out of an El-Tortio boot volume and shove it in the front of the MBR?
[17:05] <bdmurray> Could somebody look at bug 709363 for me?
[17:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 709363 in ubiquity "swap partition disappeared during installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709363
[17:14] <cody-somerville> cjwatson, is the debconf interface for oem-config in maverick borked? It seems to die on installing the system.
[17:15] <cjwatson> please file a bug, I'm finishing for the week
[19:53] <cr3> is there something like an early command that can be preseeded in ubiquity?
[19:54] <cr3> on the UbiquityAutomation wiki page, I see:     * Evan needs to add a "a bit later than early command" preseed variable so that testing scripts can run once the desktop is available.
[19:55] <cr3> is there a workaround in the meanwhile, short of changing the initrd.lz file?
[21:06] <sam____> how to partition during installation?
[21:07] <sam____> is there any1 to help me out please....


[01:25] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1214668] No login sound on Kubuntu 13.10 with KDE 4.11 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1214668 (by Marco Parillo)
[02:10] <ScottK> Riddell: Infininty fixed it to build on powerpc
[03:00] <ScottK> rdieter: The next PyQt4 release has arm* stuff fixed upstream, so you all will be able to drop the big patch you got from us.
[03:43] <rdieter> ScottK: yay, thx
[06:07] <soee> good morning
[08:48] <apachelogger> Riddell: I don't think pmc uses phonon
[08:49] <shadeslayer> IIRC I was told it uses QtMM
[08:49] <shadeslayer> because phonon didn't QML stuff when they started
[08:50] <shadeslayer> or something like that
[09:30] <smartboyhw> !testers | Please help test the Kubuntu 12.04.3 LTS images
[09:44] <markey> rdieter: getting more reports about issues with OpenGL (Intel driver) on Fedora, leading to crashes on startup. I've CC'ed you
[09:52] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can you sponsor https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra/+files/plasma-widget-fastuserswitch_0.3.2-0ubuntu1.dsc
[09:52] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, maybe you can do some 12.04.3 testing after that?:P
[09:52] <shadeslayer> maybe
[09:53] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: url ?
[09:53] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/301/builds
[10:21] <BluesKaj> HI folks
[10:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yofel do you think cmake can be sandboxed in /opt/project-neon5 ?
[10:54] <apachelogger> wut?
[10:55] <shadeslayer> see the frameworks mailing list?
[10:56] <shadeslayer> if we sandboxed cmake to /opt/project-neon5 ... any speculation on how debhelper react?
[10:59] <apachelogger> unnecessary work
[11:00] <shadeslayer> plz be replying as such>
[11:00] <apachelogger> not subscribed
[11:00] <shadeslayer> :O
[11:00] <apachelogger> also you raised a problem that is no problem :P
[11:01] <apachelogger> anyway, you'd simply fiddle PATH in rules to include pn5
[11:01] <apachelogger> which is likely done via the include already
[11:02] <shadeslayer> I don't think I raised an unnecessary problem since atleast for me I tend to use the system cmake which suffices most things
[11:02] <shadeslayer> *for most things
[11:02] <apachelogger> so there is no reason not to do it, except for having to change cmake which is unnecessary effort considering the scope of the PPA and the fact that the topic is about a release client not a random snapshot IMHO
[11:02] <shadeslayer> what's to say the RC won't break phonon :P
[11:02] <apachelogger> if the rc breaks phonon then it needs fixing anyway
[11:02] <apachelogger> you have that problem regardless
[11:02] <shadeslayer> ( but then whats to say the final release won't break it since none of us tested the RC )
[11:02] <apachelogger> .10 or so actually broke phonon
[11:03] <shadeslayer> it's a chicken and egg problem IMHO
[11:03] <apachelogger> exactly
[11:03] <apachelogger> that's why I think it is a non-problem
[11:06] <shadeslayer> I don't think it's a non problem
[11:07] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what's the problem then?
[11:07] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[11:07] <shadeslayer> the problem is that if KF5 depends on cmake RC, we either replace stable cmake in the ppa with a potentially unstable one or sandbox cmake which will require more effort
[11:08] <shadeslayer> and then if the unstable cmake breaks a build for someone ... then he will have a broken build for a fair amount of time untill he : a) rolls back to stable cmake in which case the developer can't contribute to kf5
[11:08] <shadeslayer> b) we patch the cmake package, which creates more work
[11:09] <BluesKaj>  is the "audio and video settings" section in multimedia just phonon rename?
[11:09] <shadeslayer> yes
[11:09] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you are not reading me
[11:09] <apachelogger> this can happen with *any* release of cmake
[11:09] <apachelogger> pre-release, release, snapshot, whatever
[11:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: but the potential to break in a RC is higher?
[11:10] <apachelogger> no
[11:10] <apachelogger> new versions have potential to break
[11:11] <apachelogger> it does not matter what name stamp you put on it
[11:11] <apachelogger> so this is a pointless discussion
[11:12] <apachelogger> if you feel that the risk is too big, then change the prefix in cmake's rules
[11:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: can you upload https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra/+files/plasma-widget-fastuserswitch_0.3.2-0ubuntu1.dsc
[12:44]  * smartboyhw has a new PPA specifically for ARM builds \o.
[12:44] <smartboyhw> \o/
[13:34] <smartboyhw> lordievader, got anytime to help test 12.04.3 images?
[13:35] <lordievader> smartboyhw: No sorry, I'm at my parents house.
[13:35] <smartboyhw> lordievader, oh:(
[13:44] <Riddell> afternoon
[13:44] <Riddell> sigh trains broken I got stuck half way across the country :(
[13:46] <smartboyhw> Riddell, oh:(
[13:46] <smartboyhw> It's time to test the 12.04.3 images BTQ
[13:46] <Riddell> smartboyhw: how's 12.04.3 looking?
[13:46] <smartboyhw> *BTW
[13:46] <smartboyhw> Riddell, I have a lot of flavours to test for
[13:46] <smartboyhw> And Kubuntu will come last (since it relatively has more people:P)
[13:46] <smartboyhw> I will test tmr
[13:46] <smartboyhw> if needed
[13:46] <smartboyhw> But not today
[13:48] <Riddell> yep, I'll get onto it shortly
[14:36] <shadeslayer> Riddell: already tested i386
[14:47] <Riddell> shadeslayer: looking good?
[14:47] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yes :)
[14:47] <Riddell> awooga
[14:48] <smartboyhw> awooga
[15:31] <smartboyhw> Riddell, how is the Kubuntu 12.04.3 Release notes going?
[16:59] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can you plz also upload that package that I mentioned earlier? :D
[17:29] <shadeslayer> ScottK: uhm KTP now in unapproved for a week now :(
[18:17] <lordievader> Good evening.
[20:53] <Noskcaj> Can someone look at the FTBFS for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktp-call-ui/0.6.3-1ubuntu1 ? i'm too crippled to fix it for saucy
[21:26] <ScottK> Should have test built before upload.
[22:31] <Riddell> hmm,it doesn't look like I'm going to be able to do much 12.04.3 tests
[22:31] <Riddell> /build/buildd/ktp-call-ui-0.6.3/libqtf/qtf.cpp:22:53: fatal error: telepathy-farstream/telepathy-farstream.h: No such file or directory
[22:31] <Riddell> oh he left