[10:43] <Arafangion> |pSiCo|: Hmm, what kind of interface?
[10:43] <py_> when installing nvidia-glx, how to ensure I get the same version than the one of the kernel module?
[10:43] <|pSiCo|> I need to deploy a keylogger on a development machine running ubuntu 6.06.1 because we need to debug a program that is crashing all the time...
[10:43] <jazzrocker> i think that the BSD's should get back together and just package themselves slightly differently like Ubuntu vs Kubuntu vs Xubuntu etc etc
[10:43] <dpgraves> need help getting sound working where is best to start have ibm 300gl 6862
[10:44] <jazzrocker> FreeBSD-Desktop, FreeBSD-Server, FreeBSD-Secure etc etc
[10:44] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: The only issue with OBSD is that it doesn't seem to be suitable for _real_ server hardware.
[10:44] <|pSiCo|> I'm sure the program crashes when the user types a special key combination
[10:44] <Crippy-Boy> jazzrocker: Why? they all have different goals, politics would get in the way (as it has before hence why OBSD exists)
[10:44] <DarkMageZ> how do i scroll up and down in the console?
[10:44] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: You know, those with high redundancy, RAID, and all other coolness.
[10:45] <jazzrocker> Crippy-Boy, right, they've got different goals, just as ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-server are designed to fit radically different goals but are based on the same underlying system
[10:45] <Arafangion> DarkMageZ: PgUp/PgDn (Perhaps in conjunction with SHIFT)
[10:45] <jazzrocker> anyway, whatever it's a moot point
[10:45] <Crippy-Boy> Arafangion: Yeah, ive never worked in a real server envornment so dont know about the hardware support, But id be pretty confident in the security.
[10:45] <DarkMageZ> Arafangion, nope :(
[10:46] <Arafangion> DarkMageZ: Use a better terminal emulator, then.
[10:46] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: Actually, nor have I, so it's a moot point :)
[10:46] <k> i have an installation problem.My system locks up when the installer scanning devices in the manually edit partittion table mode. But partition editor working fine if I run it from the admin menu. What could be the proeblem (6.06)?
[10:46] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: Still, I really like Debian for servers.
[10:46] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: This OBSD is really an experiment, of sorts.
[10:47] <Crippy-Boy> DarkMageZ: or you could use | less after your command, pgup, pgdn and q to quit.
[10:47] <Arafangion> |pSiCo|: So, what is the primary interface for this program?
[10:48] <Crippy-Boy> Arafangion: Ah, i know if i ever had to run a server [my limited knowledge]  id probably go for debian, FreeBSD or OpenBSD. but i know nothing about server <apart from maybe how to configure basic stuff>
[10:48] <Arafangion> |pSiCo|: Curses-like, or line-buffered?
[10:48] <DarkMageZ> :( the problem is that the output has come from an app that was running for 3 hours. i'm using the console from pressing ctrl+alt+f1.
[10:48] <Arafangion> |pSiCo|: So, what is the primary interface for this program?
[10:49] <Awesome-o2000> I found my cd!!! woohoo!!!
[10:49] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: The distingiushing philosophy behind a server, imho, is that it does NOT go down.
[10:49] <DarkMageZ> i didn't want gnome running while it was working... guess i should have used a real terminal emulator
[10:49] <py_> DarkMageZ, as you "left" this console, all that is not on screen is lost
[10:49] <Arafangion> Awesome-o2000: Heh, I tidied my room today - found 3 harddrives
[10:49] <Chandu> hi , how to remove orphan packages
[10:49] <wizzard1> How do I store a password i a text file on the correct way so VNCviewer can read it? when I type xvnc4viewer <IP_ADDRESS> -passwordfile ~/.vnc/passwd/1 I get the error : bad obfuscated password length
[10:49] <Chandu> I tried to install mozilla-firefox from the repository , but bcz of internal dependencies if is partially installed ..
[10:49] <Chandu> and now if I want to install r remove other pacakges it is showing "You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[10:49] <DarkMageZ> py_, oh, it's still sitting there, i just have to scroll up
[10:49] <Chandu> "
[10:49] <Chandu> and showing list of orphaned packages
[10:49] <Chandu> I dont want to isntall those .. How to correct this
[10:50] <Crippy-Boy> Arafangion: Yup, Mine proabably would. Either down a stair way or out of a window :-)
[10:50] <Crippy-Boy> I havent got much patience at times, Especially when its a silly error
[10:50] <py_> DarkMageZ: I mean if you went on another term (-f2) or in X or the console turned off it's gone
[10:50] <|pSiCo|> Arafangion, is a Xwin session, with many programs, and I need a keylogger, i can't do a script for each program, the keylogger is the best solution in this cases and in other linux boxes it works great, but in ubuntu LKL crashes with coredump
[10:50] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: Three good, working hdd's.
[10:50] <Arafangion> |pSiCo|: Oh! That's all?
[10:51] <Crippy-Boy> lol
[10:51] <k> I have an installation problem.My system locks up when the installer scanning devices in the manually edit partittion table mode. But partition editor working fine if I run it from the admin menu. What could be the proeblem (6.06)? Can someone help?
[10:51] <Arafangion> |pSiCo|: Just record the X11 sessino in a way to play it back :)
[10:51] <glick> so i guess the LTS release will be in '08?
[10:51] <|pSiCo|> hummm
[10:51] <DarkMageZ> py_, it's on another machine. the console is still there. i can see the end out the output. i just have to scroll up afew lines to get the useful output
[10:51] <Crippy-Boy> Especially when programming, Some of GCC's errors are the most useless ever.
[10:52] <glick> i tried kubuntu for a while
[10:52] <|pSiCo|> can i record a user-session in X ? i'm the root of the machine
[10:52] <|pSiCo|> a video session? :?
[10:52] <First|Bleh> I am root. Hear me roar.
[10:52] <glick> kubuntu gets supper annoying frustrating to use after about 45 minutes
[10:52] <glick> supper = super
[10:53] <py_> DarkMageZ: yeah I understood, but when you came back to the machine, the console was "off" because of the "screen saver" mode of linux, eg you had to press shift or something like that to get something on the screen right?
[10:53] <wizzard1> fhat is the differens betwe k and regular?
[10:53] <Crippy-Boy> The most annoying thing about kubuntu is the bloody big tooltips for everything, I had to turn those off after about 10 seconds
[10:53] <Arafangion> |pSiCo|: I can't recommend particular solutions, as I've never used it, but I do know that you can record X11 traffic.
[10:53] <Crippy-Boy> kubuntu uses KDE
[10:53] <jimi_> hello! i have some problems addind a local printer. i cannot see any printers in the listbox. all drivers are installed.
[10:53] <Arafangion> |pSiCo|: vnc2swf I believe allows you to do it.
[10:53] <Crippy-Boy> ubuntu uses gnome, and xubuntu uses Xfce
[10:53] <infidel> when you were saying i have to setup the source by hand you weren't joking were you?
[10:53] <Arafangion> |pSiCo|: But that particular one probably disregards keyboard entry.
[10:53] <wizzard1> oki
[10:53] <First|Bleh> kde is for people that like eye candy GUI's :P
[10:54] <jimi_> i am using dapper and gnome
[10:54] <|pSiCo|> Arafangion, maybe it works, thanks
[10:54] <glick> actually i think the gnome gui is much easier and nicer on the eyes
[10:54] <Crippy-Boy> Theyre all ok and have their place.
[10:54] <DarkMageZ> py_, i had to tap a key to wake it yes. the console isn't frozen. all i need to do it scroll up :(
[10:54] <Crippy-Boy> Ubuntu for accesibility and ease of use, KDE for....well people that like it i suppose, XFCE and flux....for MEEEEEEEE
[10:54] <First|Bleh> kde reminds me of a fisher price toyset :P
[10:54] <infidel> anyone off the top of there heard know how to unzip a tar.bz2 file?
[10:55] <Healot> tar xvfj
[10:55] <Crippy-Boy> I love flux, i sometimes wish it wasnt AS ugly or pain to configure though
[10:55] <Healot> or bunzip2
[10:56] <First|Bleh> gnome is nice and simple and has some nice skins that make it a little more eye candy-ish without being bloated (as i feel kde is)
[10:56] <jimi_> infidel: in aterminal run bunzip2 -c file.tar.bz2 | tar xvf -
[10:56] <infidel> ok i will
[10:56] <Crippy-Boy> Yeah, its nice its a little laggy on old ish hardware though.
[10:56] <Crippy-Boy> I propose a fluxbuntu :D
[10:56] <Crippy-Boy> [i know there is one, seems dead though, not released]
[10:57] <mkquist> crippy-boy, u use xfce, hows it diff from gnome?
[10:57] <NewpZ> umm....cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.pyrecade.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/pyrecade login"    results in cvs [login aborted] : connect to cvs.pyrecade.sourceforge.net(<IP_ADDRESS>):2401 failed: No route to host
[10:57] <py_> DarkMageZ: if you had to wake it up, everything that is not on the screen itself is _gone_. It's not in any buffer anymore. See what I mean? That's what I was trying to explain, with my poor english.
[10:57] <dpgraves> new to ubuntu cannot get sound working ibm 300gl model 6862
[10:57] <DarkMageZ> py_, oh. i get it now. that's a shame...
[10:57] <Crippy-Boy> mkquist: seems a little more responsive, but i use flux mainly
[10:58] <DarkMageZ> py_, i'll spend the 3 hours running it again to get the output, but this time with a proper terminal emulator. thanks
[10:58] <mkquist> crippy-boy - flux another desktop?
[10:58] <benkong2> good day all
[10:58] <mkquist> dpgraves - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=comprehensive
[10:58] <warfy> hi, is anyone free that can help me out?
[10:59] <Crippy-Boy> window manager.
[10:59] <warfy> i need to get Wine installed but i dont have internet on ubuntu for the package manager
[10:59] <Arafangion> warfy: Wine is one of the few packages for which a source install is best.
[10:59] <benkong2> where can one learn how to change icons for things like trash empty/remove and items on the panel?
[11:00] <Arafangion> warfy: mkdir ~/winehq
[11:00] <Arafangion> warfy: And Use ./configure --prefix=/home/warfy/winehq
[11:00] <R0cK3T> whats the proper syntax to copy a dir and its contents to another dir?
[11:00] <Arafangion> warfy: Then, export PATH=$PATH:/home/warfy/winehq/bin
[11:00] <Arafangion> warfy: (You fill in the blanks)
[11:01] <R0cK3T> cp /dir/dir/filename /dir/dir/dir/filename?
[11:01] <warfy> ahh ok
[11:01] <warfy> let me give it a go
[11:01] <Arafangion> R0cK3T: Don't use the '?', otherwise, you're set. :)
[11:01] <R0cK3T> but that works just for single files
[11:01] <jimi_> looking for some cups help
[11:01] <R0cK3T> i need to move a whole folder and its contents
[11:01] <Arafangion> R0cK3T: You may want to turn on recursive mode, -r
[11:02] <R0cK3T> it doesn't work the same
[11:02] <R0cK3T> so
[11:02] <azathoth> R0cK3T: cp /path/to/* /path/three
[11:02] <slacker_nl> lo
[11:03] <Abst> slacker_nl, hey
[11:03] <R0cK3T> bah
[11:03] <benkong2> R0cK3T, mv -R  /your_folder /your/new/destination
[11:03] <azathoth> that's move
[11:03] <azathoth> not copy
[11:04] <benkong2> R0cK3T, -R makes it recursive
[11:04] <benkong2> that what he said move
 whats the proper syntax to copy a dir and its contents to another dir?
[11:04] <eetfunk> hi guys!  im trying to install apache 2.2.3 on my Ubuntu box (from source, not in apt-get yet).    Where can I find instructions to make a clean install?  (ie: config in ./etc/apache2/ and so on)
[11:04] <R0cK3T> ahhh
[11:04] <azathoth> then he said move... :)
[11:04] <R0cK3T> mv -R  /your_folder /your/new/destination
[11:04] <azathoth> so he was tryign to confuse us
[11:04] <R0cK3T> i bet that one will work
[11:05] <Crippy-Boy> R0cK3T: Yeah it'll MOVE it.
[11:05] <benkong2> R0cK3T, that command will move the entire folder
[11:05] <benkong2> R0cK3T, is that what you want to do?
[11:06] <warfy> Arafangion: I got this error message at ./configure --prefix=/home/warfy/winehq
[11:06] <warfy> 1 sec
[11:07] <warfy> error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[11:07] <R0cK3T> i did this
[11:07] <Digital> hello everyone
[11:07] <R0cK3T> the -R messed it up
[11:08] <Digital> can anyone tell me why my wacom changes input events sometimes after a restart?
[11:08] <R0cK3T> so i did mv /home/me/Desktop/folder /dir/dir/destination
[11:09] <Crippy-Boy> R0cK3T: www.linuxcommand.org Just have a read through and mess around
[11:09] <R0cK3T> haha
[11:09] <R0cK3T> worked
[11:09] <R0cK3T> took a while
[11:09] <R0cK3T> but it worked
[11:10] <Przemcio1978> hi, i'd like to split my home partition into 2 partitions, how to do this?
[11:10] <Przemcio1978> i have to install windows cuz my webcam doesn't work :(
[11:11] <Digital> no one eh. well it was worth a shot
[11:11] <Crippy-Boy> Przemcio1978: what webcam is it?
[11:11] <piernik> hi I did dist-upgrade and now my eth0 has gone. How to fix it?
[11:11] <Arafangion> piernik: What is eth0?
[11:11] <Przemcio1978> i mean i have got a lot of free space on that partition and i'd like to make some free space for windows
[11:12] <Crippy-Boy> resize the partition.
[11:12] <Przemcio1978> this is logitech quickcam chat (skype version)
[11:12] <piernik> net interface  the only one (except loopback)
[11:12] <Crippy-Boy> gparted should work.
[11:12] <jimi_> use qtparted to resize partitio
[11:12] <Digital> Przemcio1978, can't you just put in the distro disc and use any app on there, I thought it came with a partition manager
[11:12] <jimi_> ifup eth0
[11:12] <jimi_> to activate eth0
[11:13] <neilg> 'lo
[11:13] <piernik> doesn't work
[11:13] <Przemcio1978> ok, thanks i'll resize it
[11:13] <Naik0> hey folks, my sound is working but not great. It feels like the sound quality is very very bad. I think maybe i missing some drivers
[11:13] <piernik> no such device
[11:13] <Arafangion> Przemcio1978: I'm wondering if qemu would allow you to use that in windows, running the entire show within a "window".
[11:13] <Zmanu> hello
[11:13] <neilg> i'm having a problem with sata drives - i install ubuntu fine but i can't boot without using the live cd - just hangs with a blank screen otherwise
[11:13] <Zmanu> i want to know, if it's difficult to update ubuntu
[11:13] <Crippy-Boy> Przemcio1978: http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net
[11:14] <piernik> I get message SIOCSIFADDR ;no such device
[11:14] <Arafangion> Przemcio1978: Alas, it seems that it doesn't.
[11:14] <piernik> and later eth0 no such device
[11:14] <Arafangion> Przemcio1978: Though, it'd be interesting if VMware allows you to access the usb device...
[11:14] <rambo3> piernik, lshw -C network
[11:15] <Przemcio1978> Crippy-Boy i found that http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=3801, it apperas there aren't any drivers, the advice given in the comments doesn't work
[11:15] <Digital> could anyone tell me where to get themes from?
[11:15] <piernik> moment I'll turn on the broken pc
[11:15] <Crippy-Boy> Przemcio1978: ahh, i appologise
[11:15] <R0cK3T> how to make sure i have all the 32bit libraries before i install q3?
[11:15] <warfy> ok wine wouldnt install because I dont have a acceptable c compiler
[11:16] <warfy> whats a valid c compiler
[11:16] <Przemcio1978> i didn't know that quickcam chat and quickcam chat skype ver. might require different drivers under linux
[11:16] <warfy> that i can use
[11:16] <Arafangion> warfy: build-essential
[11:16] <ardchoille> warfy: sudo apt-get install build-essential ?
[11:16] <Arafangion> warfy: Also, might need some other dependencies as well.
[11:16] <Arafangion> warfy: Perhaps try sudo apt-get build-dep wine first
[11:17] <Arafangion> ardchoille: An issue is that he doesn't have an internet connection.
[11:17] <Przemcio1978> is using gparted safe?
[11:17] <ardchoille> Arafangion: Ah, that would pose a problem
[11:17] <warfy> ok il give it a go, yeah thats true - no net looks like a big problem
[11:18] <Crippy-Boy> back soon
[11:19] <Mocka> I ubuntu good?
[11:19] <Bonez> Mockayes
[11:19] <Mocka> Is Suse better?
[11:20] <Arafangion> ardchoille: Do you have a friend with a working version of wine?
[11:20] <Arafangion> Mocka: Define "good" and "better"
[11:20] <Madpilot> Mocka, you're in #ubuntu. We're biased. ;)
[11:20] <ardchoille> Arafangion: No, all my friends refuse to use Windows apps
[11:21] <Arafangion> ardchoille: The best advise would probably be to ask/beg your friends to compile wine, completely (ie, with sound and opengl)
[11:21] <piernik> lshw has showed I have  network disabled
[11:21] <warfy> im not sure i did it right... i went to extracted wine directory then typed 'sudo apt-get build-dep wine'
[11:21] <ardchoille> Arafangion: Why? We have no use for wine
[11:21] <Arafangion> ardchoille: Then ask them to copy their apt archives from /var/cache/apt/archives and put it onto a CD.
[11:21] <neilg> i'm having a problem with sata drives - i install ubuntu fine but i can't boot without using the live cd - just hangs with a blank screen otherwise
[11:22] <Przemcio1978> how to resize a partition with gparted?
[11:22] <Arafangion> ardchoille: Oh, oops, wrong user ;)
[11:22] <Arafangion> warfy:...
[11:22] <ardchoille> Arafangion: :)
[11:22] <Arafangion> warfy: Refer to what I said to ardchoille  :)
[11:22] <warfy> ok
[11:22] <finalbeta> No flash player till 2007 http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=34880
[11:22] <Mocka> I cant decide what distro to use
[11:23] <Mocka> someone told me ubuntu renders your system useless
[11:23] <Mocka> other people have said its good
[11:23] <rambo3> piernik, is it ethernet card ? what module does it use,
[11:23] <Slinkin> Has anyone had any luck with write-to-ntfs partitions?
[11:23] <crashd> Slinkin: fuse-ntfs works fine for me
[11:23] <jerb> spin some live CDs
[11:23] <Arafangion> Mocka: Be aware that Ubuntu has alot of Debian biases.
[11:23] <Macros42> I'm trying to load from the live cd and when I get to th "Mounting root file system" part it's just hanging there. Been there 1 hour now - any ideas?
[11:23] <klos> nvidia settings or nvidia glx ? which one should i install ?
[11:24] <Arafangion> Mocka: And Ubuntu just isn't as good at upgrading as Debian is - then again, Debian is right up there for being reliable adn stable.
[11:24] <neilg> Macros42: do you have a sata drive?
[11:24] <Slinkin> ok.. thanks
[11:24] <crashd> Slinkin: find out about it on the ubuntu wiki or ubuntuguide
[11:24] <Macros42> nope - it's an old box - pre-sata
[11:24] <Arafangion> Mocka: Personally, Ubuntu isn't quite as good at upgrading as Debian, but probably better than most others.
[11:24] <neilg> oh :/
[11:24] <warfy> may i ask - how do you get a c compiler on? i thought every linux distro out there had c and c++ compilers
[11:24] <Arafangion> Mocka: It is damn easy to install, that's for sure.
[11:24] <Arafangion> warfy: They do, but not neccessary by default.
[11:24] <Arafangion> warfy: It's about 300MB or so extra.
[11:24] <warfy> ah ok
[11:24] <crashd> warfy: check the wiki, you need to apt-get install build-essential
[11:24] <Slinkin> Yeah I read it, I just thought it sounded like a dangrous game.. hehe
[11:25] <piernik> stupid intel 82801 Why dist-upgrade  messuped my net hardware config?
[11:25] <rambo3> piernik, is it e100 module
[11:25] <ardchoille> I'm really liking this GTK2 theme: http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/483/screenshot8km3.jpg
[11:25] <piernik> I had similar problem on my laptop
[11:25] <ardchoille> Oops, sorry about that, wrong channel :(
[11:25] <Mocka> I like mandriva but they are very restrictive as they want to make money
[11:25] <rambo3> piernik, same here
[11:25] <Arafangion> warfy: Ask your friends to package up their apt archives onto a CD that you can use as an archive.
[11:26] <rambo3> piernik,  dmesg |grep e100
[11:26] <warfy> problem - none of my friends even know what linux is
[11:26] <looktj> im sad
[11:26] <neilg> lol warfy
[11:26] <neilg> why looktj
[11:26] <Mocka> Mandrake is a legend...why does mandriva suck now?
[11:27] <mkquist> man flux is ugly...lol
[11:27] <FirstStrike> i talk to some of my friends about linux
[11:27] <piernik> rambo3: grep found 3 matches
[11:27] <FirstStrike> and they're just like "I don't use it because it's too hard"
[11:27] <rambo3> any errors ?
[11:27] <Arafangion> warfy: You are going to have to get the .deb's somehow.
[11:27] <warfy> yeah true
[11:27] <looktj> steve irwin died
[11:27] <Arafangion> looktj: That's the 5th time I've been told, and I don't even know who the heck he is!
[11:27] <Slinkin> He was so cool
[11:27] <FirstStrike> Congratulations looktj! You're the 20th person today to announce that!
[11:28] <neilg> lol
[11:28] <looktj> lawl
[11:28] <warfy> yeah - i can re-install cos its a fresh install anyway, i just need photophop on there
[11:28] <glick> i totally saw him dying this way years ago
[11:28] <Arafangion> looktj: It's almost like everybody is celebrating.
[11:28] <Przemcio1978> i can't choose resize from gparted menu
[11:29] <wor> Hello all. Could someone assist me in a cron.daily problem I'm having?
[11:29] <FirstStrike> wor: i'm sure some one could if you actually state what the problem is
[11:29] <wor> I added a script which backs up my mysql database and placed it in /etc/cron.daily
[11:30] <rambo3> blacklisting e100 (i wnat to use eepro100 )won't actually stop it from loading , how do i fix this ?
[11:30] <warfy> so i should just download a new iso image a try agian? one with 6 or 7 cd's
[11:30] <warfy> is there a ubuntu distro that big?
[11:30] <ardchoille> no
[11:30] <Arafangion> warfy: All you need is a local mirror of some sort.
[11:30] <wor> The problem is that it is not executed. Other files like logrotate get executed and are also placed in /etc/corn.daily
[11:30] <ardchoille> warfy: AFAIK, all the Ubuntu ISO's are i cd
[11:30] <neilg> yip
[11:31] <rambo3> warfy, i hope you know what an ARCH is
[11:31] <neilg> dammit has noone else had sata problems with ubuntu?
[11:31] <Arafangion> warfy: If you had a friend who was also an ubuntu user, you could just get tehir archive, and use dpkg-scanpackages to essentially turn that into an archive.
[11:31] <warfy> rambo3: sorry no idea
[11:31] <cherubiel> guys, this is awesome http://code.google.com/soc/ubuntu/appinfo.html?csaid=620C62A612446B12
[11:32] <wor> I added the script to /etc/crontab by hand and than it executes at the given time.
[11:32] <ardchoille> wor: I never tried that. I usually put daily scripts in a certain path and then do "crontab -e" and make a crontab that calls the script.
[11:32] <wor> Is there something with cron.daily which I could have forgotten to do?
[11:34] <Naik0> where can i see what prog that using most Memory atm
[11:34] <neilg> top
[11:34] <FirstStrike> Naik0: run "top" in a terminal
[11:34] <xNinja> hello
[11:34] <Arafangion> Naik0: Be aware that shared memory and the like can result in misleading memory consumption.
[11:34] <xNinja> is the runlevel 3 in ubuntu the normal boot without x window ?
[11:34] <Arafangion> Naik0: Then, run top, and hit M (or m, can't remember which), to sort by memory.
[11:35] <Naik0> ok thanks Arafangion FirstStrike and neilg hehe
[11:35] <wor> ardchoille: That is of course possible and it works ok. But I would like to know what goes wrong.
[11:36] <finalbeta> Can I use vmware server to have multiple people working on the same virtual desktop (but not one and the same desktop). So one image for several users, but they have their own  session.
[11:37] <Macros42> neilg: the problem was with the cd drive it seems - just tried a new one and it's working fine
[11:38] <Arafangion> finalbeta: I wouldn't bother.
[11:39] <Arafangion> finalbeta: I would, however, provide a standard image, which is read-only.
[11:39] <Arafangion> finalbeta: And let anyone use it in snapshot mode.
[11:39] <vincenz> Hello
[11:39] <vincenz> What program should I use to burn a dvd?
[11:39] <Bonez> vincenz: is it a movie dvd or data?
[11:40] <lupine_85> gnomebaker
[11:40] <lupine_85> or k3b :)
[11:40] <vincenz> Bonez: data
[11:40] <Bonez> vincenz: gnomebaker
[11:40] <vincenz> thank you :)
[11:40] <Healot> nerolinux if you prefer :0
[11:40] <Bonez> Healot: I installed that but it's uber crap compared to the windows version IMO
[11:41] <lupine_85> Bonez: considering how bad the Windows version is, that must mean it's really, really, really bad then!
[11:41] <Bonez> lupine_85: yup!
[11:41] <wor> Bonez: You are right but it does the job
[11:41] <Bonez> I prefer gnomebaker :)
[11:41] <jerb> yeah, nero is a coaster making machine
[11:41] <Bonez> lol
[11:41] <Bonez> anti-nero fan club
[11:41] <bXi> when will the new ubuntu arive?
[11:41] <Bonez> bXi: october
[11:42] <neenaoffline> How do I remove OO.o ? I'm on xubuntu .... doing " sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-core" asks me to download some packages ...
[11:42] <Healot> i just give option, damn you talked too much :
[11:42] <bXi> Bonez: any site on which i can follow progress?
[11:42] <vincenz> hmm
[11:42] <Bonez> bXi: you can start with #ubuntu+1
[11:42] <Bonez> bXi: i'm sure they have some links etc to keep you updated
[11:43] <bXi> they will ship free cd's for this right?
[11:43] <xNinja> wich is the runlevel in ubuntu 6.06 to run in dos only no x ??
[11:43] <xNinja> i tried 3 and still not working!
[11:43] <warfy> alright maybe i could get something else to work instead: my wireless PCMCIA card, its some generic brand and drivers seem to work in ubuntu but everytime I activate it, nothing happens
[11:43] <bXi> xNinja: dos?
[11:43] <ardchoille> dos?
[11:43] <xNinja> i mean command only without x window
[11:43] <xNinja> i dont want to auto start x
[11:43] <bXi> xNinja: thats normally called a terminal or a shell
[11:43] <xNinja> i know
[11:44] <Bonez> xNinja: sudo gedit /etc/iniitab and find out
[11:45] <xNinja> #ubuntu Runlevels 2-5 are multi-user.
[11:45] <tristan> Is there anyway to check in a GUI application what are the options of the kernel? I've seen a screenshot of something like qconf but there is no packet of this name...
[11:46] <bXi> tristan: if you have the kernel sources you can try cd /usr/src/linux && make xconfig
[11:46] <xNinja> in most linux distro`s runlevel 3 is the normal boot without x...but here wich level number is it!
[11:46] <ardchoille> xNinja: it's runlevel 3
[11:47] <xNinja> i did put it in 3 but also i see the kdm
[11:47] <ardchoille> xNinja: How? Which command are you using?
[11:47] <xNinja> # The default runlevel.
[11:47] <xNinja> id:3:initdefault:
[11:48] <Esters> Hello, there i'm having a problem : yesterday i did fdisk /dev/sda mkfs -t vfat /dev/sda1 and it erased my entire fstab , that means my all partitions virtually doesn't exist but they are, so how can i restore my /etc/fstab ?
[11:48] <tristan> bXi, it says cd /usr/src/linux no such directory...
[11:49] <bXi> tristan: what does ls /usr/src/ tell you?
[11:50] <neilg> dammit keep ctrl+f4ing the wrong window
[11:50] <tristan> bXi, rpm is the only directory and there is no file
[11:50] <neilg> multiple monitors ftl
[11:54] <looktj> lawl neilg
[11:54] <xNinja> Esters try cat /etc/mtab
[11:55] <R0cK3T> is there a linux32 cmd for ubuntu?
[11:55] <R0cK3T> why might it not be working for me?
[11:55] <ardchoille> R0cK3T: command to do what?
[11:55] <Esters> xNinja: i'm from ubuntu Live-cd
[11:56] <vincenz> another stupid question, is one allowed to hot-swap cdrom/dvdrom bays?  I have a dell and I used my friend's dvdwriter, my dvd-driver is only ROM, I would like to return it to him, does this mean I have to reboot?
[11:56] <mkquist_> hey anyone know of a way to make a toolbar in gnome always stay on top of other apps?
[11:56] <xNinja> Esters did you tried what i said ?
[11:56] <vincenz> in windows there's a "eject hardware" thingy..
[11:56] <R0cK3T> ardchoille: linux32 ./linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run
[11:56] <Esters> xNinja: tried
[11:56] <xNinja> Esters cat /etc/fstab
[11:56] <ardchoille> R0cK3T: try: sh linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run
[11:57] <Esters> xNinja: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/fstab
[11:57] <Esters> unionfs / unionfs rw 0 0
[11:57] <Esters> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[11:57] <Esters> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[11:57] <R0cK3T> that doesn't work
[11:57] <xNinja> fdisk -l
[11:57] <R0cK3T> cause i get a glib-2.0 error
[11:57] <R0cK3T> or somethign like that
[11:57] <R0cK3T> cause im using the 64 bit version of ubuntu
[11:57] <Esters> xNinja: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l
[11:57] <Esters> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[11:58] <ardchoille> R0cK3T: Oh, may be a dependency that you have to satisfy before you can run that file
[11:58] <R0cK3T> i need to trick it into thinking its a 32 bit version
[11:58] <xNinja> :D
[11:58] <ardchoille> R0cK3T: oh, 64 bit? I don't know, then
[11:58] <Esters> xNinja:  ?
[11:58] <R0cK3T> i have all the 32 bit lib's
[11:58] <R0cK3T> but the 64 is backwards compatible with the x86
[11:58] <R0cK3T> like wtf
[11:59] <xNinja> thereis a command to auto check the partitions u have...not in my mind
[12:11] <Arafangion> R0cK3T: No, it's not backwards compatible like that.
[12:13] <brendonjt> hi there all,  can someone on the Ubuntu counity council  whoose going to be at the meeting please  Private meeage me
[12:13] <meal3837> !clamav
[12:14] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 64 kB, installed size 200 kB
[12:14] <brendonjt> hi there all,  can someone on the Ubuntu counity council  whoose going to be at the meeting please  Private meeage me
[12:14] <meal3837> anyone know how to get clam av to scan my hard disk?
[12:14] <py_> how do I get the nvidi-glx version matching the one from the kernel modules?
[12:15] <meal3837> anyone? anyone at all?
[12:16] <hockyhair> im in trouble
[12:16] <meal3837> ?
[12:16] <pustota1> question: I have toshiba laptop and by what I can judge acpi is not implemented (enabled) in the default kernel delivered with 6.06. Is it possible to enable acpi for toshiba nad if yes how?
[12:16] <azathoth> where are mysal databases kept by default?
[12:16] <azathoth> *mysql
[12:16] <meal3837> how so? (not that I can help <== major noob)
[12:16] <hockyhair> i installed new ati drivers and now my grub/bios is centered and small and once ubuntu starts to load the screen goes white, if i make it to gdm im fine once xorg kicks in it goes to a normal size and the white disspears
[12:17] <R0cK3T> so anyone know whats up with that linux32 cmd?
[12:17] <hockyhair> problem is im not making it to gdm and i can't see the term because the display is off, there is no setting in bios.
[12:17] <meal3837> wow, that's not good
[12:18] <Arafangion> meal3837: Most linux users don't worry about av.
[12:18] <meal3837> btw, if anyone is wondering, automatix destroys easyubuntu
[12:18] <rugbythomas> why cant i use ctype with gcc
[12:18] <Arafangion> meal3837: We do not recommend automatix here.
[12:18] <meal3837> just because viruses aren't common in the linux community doesn't mean they don't exist
[12:19] <Arafangion> meal3837: Generally, people install av products on linux so that the other windows machines on the network, and recipients of emails, etc, don't get infected.
[12:19] <Arafangion> meal3837: Practically all viruses on linux are proof of concept only, anyway.
[12:19] <meal3837> yeah, i know, but i'm paranoid
[12:19] <meal3837> i know there have only been, wht, 40 wild linux viruses?
[12:20] <Arafangion> meal3837: Then go run OpenBSD
[12:20] <hockyhair> i'm tripping, i need some help getting the resolution right so i can see the term.. this sucks
[12:20] <ardchoille> meal3837: The way Linux is set up makes life for a virus quite difficult
[12:20] <ardchoille> meal3837: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/06/linux_vs_windows_viruses/
[12:20] <meal3837> compared to thousands of new windows viruses a month
[12:20] <brendonjt> who here is on the CC
[12:20] <neilg> dammit >< i can't get ubuntu to boot on my dev box
[12:21] <OmegaNine> Anyone here know how to use csplit?  Reading the man/info left me say "WTF"
[12:21] <hockyhair> brb wish me luck
[12:21] <Arafangion> meal3837: The important issue if if the linux viruses actually achieves critical mass to even spread.
[12:21] <OmegaNine> GL!
[12:22] <brendonjt> any ubuntu members here
[12:22] <Macros42> got a wmp54g card but ubuntu is reporting a BCM4306 in the Device Manager - can that be changed?
[12:24] <Fleebailey33> anyone know how to format an hdd to hfs+ without journaling. more specificaly an ipod.
[12:24] <Fleebailey33> i got this
[12:24] <Fleebailey33> mkfs.hfsplus -v "iPod" /dev/sdXn
[12:24] <Fleebailey33> but it doesn't work
[12:25] <Fleebailey33> neither does mkfs hfsplus -v "iPod" /dev/sdXn
[12:25] <brendonjt> any ubuntu members here
[12:25] <Fleebailey33> i see 810
[12:25] <Arafangion> Fleebailey33: I think the general solution is to plug it into a mac or win system respetivly - may have more luck that way.
[12:26] <Luck> I can't import(open) DV file to Kino. I'm trying to open a dv-avi when I do this I get a dialog saying: "This is not a DV file. Do you want to import it?" I AM able to import it, but I end.
[12:26] <Fleebailey33> the problem is then it get's journaled
[12:26] <Fleebailey33> and i had trouble disabling journaling
[12:26] <Fleebailey33> thanks though Arafangion
[12:27] <Arafangion> Fleebailey33: I do know that whatever format it is depends on the first system it's plugged in, afaik
[12:27] <Arafangion> Fleebailey33: But I've never owned one.
[12:27] <Fleebailey33> yes
[12:27] <z421> hello, i've a little problem with a "big" command, can anyone explain why it doesn't work? "apt-cache policy `apt-get install -s `cat apt-removed | cut -f 2 -d " "` | grep edgy | cut -d " " -f 2` >> test.log"
[12:27] <Fleebailey33> but the mac enables the journaling
[12:28] <redi> hello... how do i check what my ubuntu version is
[12:28] <Fleebailey33> linux doesn't like that
[12:28] <Fleebailey33> let me go try and format it now
[12:28] <Arafangion> Fleebailey33: Try just using fat32
[12:28] <Arafangion> Fleebailey33: If you don't have any file larger than a few gig, you should be fine
[12:28] <neenaoffline> z421: try #bash
[12:28] <andyyy87> ubuntu doesn't have NTFS support? i can't mound my partitions
[12:29] <andyyy87> *mount
[12:29] <z421> neenaoffline: how? ah, you mean the channel?
[12:29] <Arafangion> andyyy87: It does have ntfs (read only) support.
[12:29] <Fleebailey33> what do you mean on the last statement?
[12:29] <neenaoffline> z421: yes :)
[12:29] <FirstStrike> !mount
[12:29] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:30] <crashd> andyyy87: you can also test fuse-ntfs
[12:30] <z421> neenaoffline: thanks, i'll try
[12:30] <crashd> check it out on the wiki
[12:30] <andyyy87> I can't mount them | ERROR: device dev/hda1 is not removable and ERROR: could not execute pmount
[12:30] <crashd> have you read the wiki bit about mounting?
[12:30] <brendonjt> crashd:  are you a ubuntu member???
[12:30] <andyyy87> no.. sorry
[12:31] <crashd> brendonjt: member?
[12:31] <brendonjt> crashd:  on the ubuntu comunity council
[12:31] <crashd> no
[12:32] <brendonjt> crashd:  do you know anyone on this channell that is
[12:32] <crashd> no
[12:32] <crashd> what's your point here? :)
[12:32] <qwertzu> Raid Question: Can somebody tell me where to configure the raids. /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf has no effect the raids are started by the kernel or someting else and it depends on partition
[12:32] <brendonjt> crashd:  as i need to talk to someone that is
[12:33] <crashd> brendonjt: oh :) i see, sorry dude, no idea
[12:33] <qwertzu> numbering. and i do some partition reanraging right now and therefore the raids "change" all the time md1 becomes md3 md6 gets a md2555 with dm-11 dm-13 as devises some raids are there twice with differen md numbers
[12:33] <midgetg0at> anyone care to enlighten me as to how i can add desktop panels to my 2nd monitor?
[12:33] <brendonjt> who here is on the CC
[12:33] <qwertzu> i just want to tell the system that the raid on hda5 and hdb5 should be /dev/md0 all the time
[12:34] <Terminus> qwertzu: i think the kernel autodetects the info in the raid partition. maybe you can change that with mdadm? i never tried configuring that manually though. i just used the installer.
[12:35] <qwertzu> Terminus:when i do configure with mdadm i get a Raid start faild during the boot screen but all is working fine during the boot
[12:35] <qwertzu> and during work but then i giot renamed raids again after the next harddisk partition change
[12:35] <qwertzu> it would be so niche if it would use mdadm
[12:36] <midgetg0at> no one knows how to add panels to a second display?
[12:36] <midgetg0at> how about "fast switching" between clone/span/extended desktop modes?
[12:36] <hockyhair> i fixed it :) thanks to all that wished me luck :)))
[12:37] <hockyhair> hey, i was just looking up ways to speed up ubuntu, cause after using vista rc1 ubuntu feels kinda slow.. anyway can anyone verfiy "fasterdapper"
[12:37] <Terminus> qwertzu: the details are bit hazy to me but i think there's a magic number on the partition which tells the kernel if it's part of a raid set.
[12:37] <qwertzu> yes the UUID numbers
[12:38] <Thunderpants> hockyhair, fasterdapper worked fine for me after i tweaked the code, check the script urself first
[12:38] <qwertzu> root@base:/etc# cat /proc/mdstat
[12:38] <qwertzu> Personalities : [raid1]
[12:38] <qwertzu> md255 : active raid1 dm-8[0]
[12:38] <qwertzu>       12803648 blocks [2/1]  [U_]
[12:38] <qwertzu> md9 : active raid1 dm-9[1]
[12:38] <qwertzu>       12803648 blocks [2/1]  [_U]
[12:38] <qwertzu> md4 : active raid1 hdb9[1]
[12:38] <qwertzu>       12803648 blocks [2/1]  [_U]
[12:38] <qwertzu> md3 : active raid1 hdb7[0]
[12:38] <qwertzu>       97667072 blocks [2/1]  [U_]
[12:38] <qwertzu> md2 : active raid1 hdb6[1]
[12:38] <qwertzu>       20579136 blocks [2/1]  [_U]
[12:38] <qwertzu> md1 : active raid1 hdb5[0]
[12:38] <qwertzu>       12803648 blocks [2/1]  [U_]
[12:38] <qwertzu> md0 : active raid1 hdb3[0]
[12:38] <qwertzu>       192640 blocks [2/1]  [U_]
[12:39] <qwertzu> mdadm --detail /dev/md255
[12:39] <Terminus> !paste
[12:39] <qwertzu> results in a
[12:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:39] <qwertzu> Terminus !paste ?
[12:39] <realist> qwertzu: Could you not flood the channel please.
[12:39] <qwertzu> sorry
[12:39] <midgetg0at> anyone know why when i max windows, the bottom goes below my desktop panel?
[12:40] <brendonjt> !comunity council
[12:40] <midgetg0at> hrm
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about comunity council - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <midgetg0at> now that i set the height to 30, it's fine.
[12:41] <qwertzu> Terminus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22521
[12:42] <Terminus> qwertzu: are all the uuids the same?
[12:42] <qwertzu> Terminus: there you can see that i have two md devices which use the same harddisk partitions
[12:42] <Terminus> that's just one big array right?
[12:42] <qwertzu> not all
[12:43] <qwertzu> Terminus: at the moment the raid setup is in transition anyway (defect harddisk and now i'm doing some reoganizing with the new disk)
[12:44] <qwertzu> Terminus: i have 4 arrays (all mirror type) and the sizes are 200MB , 12GB, 12GB and 100GB
[12:44] <Madpilot> brendonjt, the CC's page is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[12:45] <brendonjt> madpilot: yip i know that  are you on the community council
[12:46] <Madpilot> brendonjt, no
[12:46] <spiekey> hello
[12:46] <brendonjt> madpilot: oh ok
[12:47] <Terminus> qwertzu: AFAIK, you have to use mdadm and restore the proper values so that the kernel can detect it properly but that's beyond what i know. sorry.
[12:47] <Madpilot> brendonjt, do you have a question about the CC, or?
[12:47] <Terminus> qwertzu: you could try to query them all and see where they differ and stuff.
[12:47] <spiekey> how can i disable that update tray icon next to the clock?
[12:48] <simpla> Hi everyone
[12:48] <brendonjt> madpilot: nope just needed to talk to a member whoose going to the meeting that all
[12:48] <Terminus> qwertzu: mdadm --query --detail /dev/md0 should give you lots of details. there's also mdadm --query --examine /dev/hdb1
[12:48] <simpla> Am I allowed to ask a question here?
[12:48] <qwertzu> Terminus: i get the feeling that we have a misunderstanding. my arras are working fine but i hate it that i don't know why. because they are even working fine with mdadm autostart turned of
[12:49] <Madpilot> brendonjt, the CC is only 4 people. There are a number of Ubuntu Members, though - different thing from the CC itself
[12:49] <Luck>  I can't import(open) DV file to Kino. I'm trying to open a dv-avi when I do this I get a dialog saying: "This is not a DV file. Do you want to import it?" I AM able to import it, but I end.
[12:49] <qwertzu> Terminus: i updated t
[12:49] <qwertzu> Terminus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22522
[12:50] <brendonjt> madpilot: oh ok  true
[12:50] <longwave> simpla: yes, just ask your question :)
[12:50] <Madpilot> brendonjt, please join #ubuntu-offtopic, this isn't really a tech support question, and -offtopic is quiet right now
[12:50] <qwertzu> Terminus: but as you said i fear that what i seek is bejond what you know. we seem to have the same kind of "enduser" knowledge about raid
[12:51] <simpla> cool thanks.  I read through the wiki on changing the usplash.  I have changed the splash to one I downloaded, but it still has the brown background.  Is there a text file to edit to change the colour value?  Or do I have to redo the splash I downloaded following the steps outlined on the wiki?
[12:51] <Terminus> qwertzu: yeah... i didn't experiment with my raid once i got it working.
[12:52] <qwertzu> Terminus: thanx for trying!
[12:52] <brendonjt> madpilot: yip i have it sorted now thank you
[12:52] <Glombool> !phpgroupware
[12:52] <ubotu> phpgroupware: web based groupware system written in PHP. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (dapper), package size 157 kB, installed size 1284 kB
[12:53] <Terminus> qwertzu: well, you just want to be able to specify which devices go to md0, md1, etc. right? there should be something in mdadm that lets you do that, maybe reassemble the array or something.
[12:55] <Terminus> qwertzu: coz the md, devices, etc are listed in mdadm.conf and there's an option for assemble that takes that config file. maybe that's what you want. i'm really scared about touching that kind of stuff because of possible loss of data though.
[12:56] <Over_There> does anyone know how to rename entire directorys of files?
[12:56] <Terminus> Over_There: mv foo/ bar/ ?
[12:57] <Over_There> but to keep the existing file names just change the extiations
[12:57] <Over_There> on about 200 files
[12:57] <Terminus> oh...
[12:57] <OmegaNine> Ummm mv *.plop *.mer ?
[12:58] <Terminus> sounds like it needs some bash foo. or maybe awk.
[12:58] <neilg> awk rawks
[12:59] <simpla> could someone point me in the right direction then to change just the bg colour of brown in the splash?
[01:00] <longwave> Over_There: rename 's/\.foo$/.bar/' *.foo will rename *.foo to *.bar
[01:00] <Over_There> thanks
[01:00] <Terminus> whoa! there's a rename command? cool!
[01:00] <longwave> yep, rename, takes a regular expression to do the renaming and a set of filenames to rename :)
[01:01] <Terminus> but it requires perl right? is perl installed by default?
[01:01] <longwave> oh yeah it is perl i forgot about that
[01:01] <longwave> still, most systems have or need perl at some point ;)
[01:01] <Terminus> yeah... perl rocks! :)
[01:02] <Nameeater> longwave: are you mising the 2nd \ before the . of bar?
[01:02] <longwave> no, you don't need the \ in the replacement expression, i believe
[01:02] <ketsugi> I don't think any Linux distros come without Perl these days
[01:02] <Nameeater> whats the first one for then? o.O
[01:03] <longwave> "." in the matching part means "any character" so you need the \ to escape it
[01:03] <longwave> in the replacement part "." just means "."
[01:03] <Nameeater> oh, I see what you mean, my bad :(
[01:03] <Nameeater> :(/:)
[01:03] <ccherrett> anyone know where to get open office help? I am trying to start my page numbering at 22 instead of 1. I have a large document that I need to split into sections
[01:03] <ccherrett> but maintain the numbering as a whole
[01:03] <neilg> ccherrett: use 'split' :P
[01:04] <ccherrett> neilg: ?
[01:04] <neilg>  split - split a file into pieces
[01:04] <longwave> that's not really helpful for OO.o docments, neilg
[01:04] <neilg> heh
[01:05] <_mason> Gday, just a quicky, What is the remote desktop port i will need to open/forward to allow people to view my pc?
[01:05] <Nameeater> you could wack ctrl + enter for a new page
[01:05] <ccherrett> Nameeater: me
[01:06] <Nameeater> or even better, insert/manual break/page break/style default, page 22
[01:06] <Nameeater> oh and tick the change page number box
[01:07] <ccherrett> Nameeater: are you saying to insert page breaks till the doc is up to page 22?
[01:07] <Nameeater> you could do that, or the second method makes it page 1 then jumps straight to page 22
[01:07] <Hyakutaro> is it possible to have a transparent background in X-Chat?
[01:08] <Nameeater> I'm not 100% sure what your trying to achieve but randomly guessing might do what you want :)
[01:08] <ccherrett> Nameeater: do you know how to trick the page number box?
[01:08] <kingdong> i don't think x-chat will do transparency
[01:08] <longwave> ccherrett: is there nothing in the document options for "start page numbering at ..." or something?
[01:08] <kingdong> oh wait, yes it ill
[01:08] <ozzloy> i installed apache and apache2 at the same time.  now i've removed apache, but it still shows up in the shutdown sequence.  how do i remove it?
 how?
[01:09] <ccherrett> I have a document that is too large to handle as one doc. I need to split it up to make it possible to deal with
[01:09] <Hyakutaro> ah wait
[01:09] <Hyakutaro> found it
[01:09] <Hyakutaro> done :)
[01:09] <realist> ozzloy: apt-get purge <package>
[01:09] <ccherrett> longwave: not that I could find
[01:09] <kingdong> haha, well, the setting is there but it doesn't seem to be working for me
[01:10] <ozzloy> realist: "E: Invalid operation purge"
[01:10] <longwave> ozzloy: did you remove "apache-common" as well as just "apache"?
[01:10] <ozzloy> longwave: doing so now.
[01:10] <ozzloy> realist: thanx anyway though
[01:11] <ozzloy> is there a way i can test whether it will show in the shutdown sequence without rebooting?
[01:11] <ozzloy> longwave: that may have done it
[01:12] <realist> ozzloy: sorry, apt-get --purge
[01:12] <longwave> ozzloy: look in /etc/rc6.d and make sure there is no "KXXapache" file where XX is any number
[01:12] <Nameeater> ccherrett: http://www.taming-openoffice-org.com/writer/wpagegt1.htm
[01:12] <hwt> hi. is it possible to use the "computer menu" from SLED10 on ubuntu?
[01:13] <R0cK3T> i just installed teamspeak on ubuntu
[01:13] <R0cK3T> i don't have a mic hooked up
[01:13] <fiveiron> hrmrmr... I added "exec" to my fstab line for this hdd, but i still can't execute code on it... is there something different i need to put there?
[01:14] <R0cK3T> but i should be able to hear someone else right?
[01:14] <R0cK3T> well i can see em
[01:14] <R0cK3T> i can see the green light when they talk
[01:14] <ozzloy> realist: sudo apt-get --purge give the help for the command
[01:14] <R0cK3T> but no sound
[01:14] <Terminus> R0cK3T: yep, you should be able to hear them.
[01:14] <longwave> fiveiron: what filesystem? presumably the file you are executing has +x permissions and/or the umask is set correctly in /etc/fstab?
[01:14] <R0cK3T> i made sure i had the right sound devices
[01:14] <ozzloy> longwave: there is k91apache and k91apache2
[01:14] <R0cK3T> and were using the same codec
[01:15] <Terminus> R0cK3T: but you can hear other audio? like mp3s and stuff?
[01:15] <ozzloy> longwave: can i just rm those?
[01:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS> So. Steve Irwin Died.
[01:15] <longwave> ozzloy: hrm, K91apache is responsible for stopping apache at shutdown
[01:15] <R0cK3T> i think so
[01:15] <realist> ozzloy: you'll need to refer to the man page for _exact_ usage
[01:15] <R0cK3T> never tried that yet
[01:15] <R0cK3T> one sec
[01:15] <thegve> I don't think so
[01:15] <ozzloy> realist: ok
[01:15] <longwave> ozzloy: just leave them there, in fact
[01:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS> The crocodile hunter guy.
[01:15] <fiveiron> longwave, here is my fstab line for this fs:  /dev/hdb1       /mnt/data       ext3    defaults,exec,user      0       1
[01:15] <longwave> ozzloy: if apache doesn't exist the K91apache script will do nothing so it's safe
[01:15] <ccherrett> Nameeater: thanks that worked!
[01:16] <Nameeater> ccherrett: awsome :)
[01:16] <R0cK3T> no i can't listen to mp3's
[01:16] <R0cK3T> i must need to install a codec pack
[01:16] <ccherrett> thanks so much
[01:16] <longwave> fiveiron: "user" implies "noexec" even if you specify "exec" i believe
[01:16] <thegve> How can I set the amount of questions apt will ask. I need to install slapd 'unattended' (in a script), but it asks for an admin password.
[01:16] <longwave> fiveiron: is there any reason you aren't just automouting this if it's hard disk partition?
[01:17] <ozzloy> longwave: i figured it was safe, but still not completely correct
[01:17] <R0cK3T> can i install the codecs with the package manager?
[01:17] <longwave> ozzloy: it doesn't really matter if there are a few orphan scripts left to run at shutdown, they won't do any harm
[01:17] <R0cK3T> ahhhhhhhh
[01:17] <Terminus> R0cK3T: you could try installing those listed in the restricted formats section of the wiki.
[01:17] <Terminus> !restrictedformats > R0cK3T
[01:18] <ozzloy> longwave: ok cool, thanks!
[01:18] <thegve> R0cK3T: Yep, but you need to add some extra repo's first.. *what the others say*
[01:18] <fiveiron> longwave, i am automounting it....
[01:19] <longwave> fiveiron: so why do you need the "user" option?
[01:19] <fiveiron> what do you mean?
[01:19] <R0cK3T> i have no idea what restricted formats of what wiki?
[01:19] <Kwong> hello, i got problem with network-manager-gnome. It doesnt seem to work with my computer. Driver was dectected but seem that the wireless doesnt work
[01:19] <fiveiron> oh... uh... not sure... one sec
[01:19] <longwave> fiveiron: "user" allows you to mount that partition without sudo but won't allow "exec"
[01:19] <Terminus> R0cK3T: ubotu should have messaged you with the details earlier.
[01:19] <R0cK3T> add extra repo's?
[01:19] <thegve> R0cK3T: Euhm, ubuntu wiki maybe?
[01:19] <thegve> (duh)
[01:19] <fiveiron> longwave, ah, well that would be the problem then.. :-P
[01:19] <_mason> !tell _mason about remotedesktop
[01:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remotedesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <longwave> fiveiron: well, try without "user" and see if that helps. you shouldn't even need "exec", i think it defaults to on anyway - just "defaults" should be okay for an ext3 partition
[01:20] <thegve> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:20] <thegve> R0cK3T: That was for you... (the last link)
[01:21] <fiveiron> brb
[01:21] <J_P> morning all
[01:23] <thegve> R0cK3T: But you should probably simply install easyubuntu, all done in a few moments (java, flash, w32codecs etc)
[01:23] <glick> yay programming python 3rd edition is out
[01:23] <glick> i might have to buy it
[01:23] <hwt> hi. is it possible to use the "computer menu" from SLED10 on ubuntu?
[01:23] <thegve> glick: Got a link to a review?
[01:24] <glick> thegve, nah just on amazon.com, but alot of the reviews there are for previous editions which somehow count for the rating for this edition
[01:26] <Geev8> i need u'r assistance to recover lost icons disappeared from desktop am using ubuntu help me please
[01:27] <kingdong> what icons were lost Geev8 ?
[01:28] <Geev8> i means all my folder that i stored on desktop cannot be seen
[01:29] <Nameeater> have you looked in the trash folder? (click the trash button bottom right)
[01:30] <kingdong> did you try to do a search for the folder that are gone?
[01:31] <Geev8> nameeater: they are not deleted but all files and folder from my desktop are not seen it looks like some thing has channge
[01:34] <Geev8> nameeater: kingdong: when i login to this computer through remote taminal i can see and access those files/folder
[01:35] <mtholdenss> umm can amarok play cds? if so how? im getting sick of sound juicer playing my cds
[01:36] <Nameeater> Geev8: thats very wierd
[01:36] <Nameeater> if you open Places/Home then click on Desktop are they in there?
[01:38] <Geev8> nameeater: how can i navigate to that folder because there is no folder on my desktop i can open
[01:38] <Nameeater> Places is a menu up the top
[01:38] <Nameeater> between Applications and System
[01:39] <Geev8> nameeater: ok i found that menu let me check it
[01:40] <Geev8> nameeater: it does not open any thing
[01:40] <Nameeater> :| sounds very very strange, I am not sure how to help you, some one else may know
[01:41] <ozzloy> exit
[01:41] <ozzloy> err... wrong window
[01:42] <kingdong> sounds like your gnome install is borked, bad configuration file maybe
[01:42] <shuveb> hi, is it possible to install 64 bit ubuntu on Intel chips that support EM64T?
[01:43] <shuveb> or is it only meant for AMD64 chips?
[01:43] <Geev8> kingdom: how can i unbrok it
[01:44] <traveller> Geev8: have you been playing around with System Tools > Configuration Editor ?
[01:45] <Dimensions> Hi guys .... how can i use or install Visual basic in ubuntu ?
[01:45] <mtholdenss> amarok is awesome except it cant play cds only sound juicer
[01:45] <mtholdenss> dimensions try wine
[01:46] <Geev8> traveller: we are about three people we are using this computer my be one of us did it but my friend are not interested in configurations only surfing
[01:46] <Dimensions> i have wine installed but what does it do and if i have a VB project can i use it here ?
[01:47] <traveller> Geev8: i was thinking the icons might have been disabled, but if that's the case it should not even show up when connecting remotely
[01:47] <Arafangion> Dimensions: What version of VB?
[01:48] <Dimensions> Arafangion: VB 6
[01:48] <Geev8> traveller: can you instruct me to check if icons are disabled or not
[01:48] <Arafangion> Dimensions: Then it might be able to.
[01:48] <Arafangion> Dimensions: If it was VB.NET, then you should give Mono a go.
[01:49] <Arafangion> Dimensions: Personally, I run windows inside of qemu
[01:50] <looktj> sudo: dist-upgrade: command not found
[01:50] <traveller> Geev8: go to Applications > System Tools > Configuration Editor, then click to expand "apps", look for "nautilus", expand it and click on "preferences", scroll down at the panel on the right and find "show_desktop"
[01:50] <looktj> help please
[01:50] <traveller> Geev8: it should have a tick
[01:51] <Nameeater> looktj: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and are you sure you want to be doing that?
[01:51] <looktj> oh right lawl forgot aptitude
[01:51] <kzm__> I accidentally started gconfd.  And it messed up everything, changed all the fonts etc.  Is there any way to undo the damage?
[01:51] <kingdong> hm i don't think so =(
[01:52] <looktj> thanks nameeater btw
[01:52] <Nameeater> not a problem
[01:52] <Geev8> traveller: show_desktop is ticked
[01:52] <kzm__> Anyway - what I really was trying to achieve was to adjust mouse sensitivity.  I need to be able to work with a little bit more precision.  But apparently, one is only able to set accel and threshold (as in 'xset m')?
[01:53] <kzm__> Currently, movement is way too jerky to be useful for small on-screen movements.
[01:53] <traveller> Geev8: hm...that beats me then, i don't know what the problem is, sorry mate
[01:54] <myUserName> Can someone help me setup AIGLX
[01:54] <Geev8> traveller: thanks for your help but if there is any one else help me
[01:55] <looktj> Geev8: what is your problem?
[01:55] <myUserName> ii have aiglx in my system tray but when i click enable it flickers and tturns the option off i have modified my xorg.conf and installed everything any ideas?
[01:55] <kingdong> his gnome is all messed up, no deskop and won't open windows
[01:55] <traveller> kzm__: there is a way to totally reset your Gnome settings, you could remove all files and directories under ~/.gnome*
[01:55] <Geev8> looktj: all my desktop icons disappeared
[01:55] <traveller> kzm__: oh and then you just log out and log back in
[01:55] <gnomefreak> myUserName: aigxl questions are best asked in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:56] <Alpha[] > myUserName: you need open source drivers onyou grafix card
[01:56] <myUserName> ok
[01:56] <kzm__> traveller, hmm... if I remove .gnome/ and then accidentally start gconfd, will it do nothing?
[01:56] <looktj> sorry, can't help with that :( Geev8
[01:56] <kzm__> (I like to use the occasional gnome app, but don't like all the extra baggage)
[01:57] <traveller> kzm__: hm...that i don't know
[01:57] <kzm__> Guess there's only one way to find out.
[01:57] <mtholdenss> hey whats this DAAP Client
[01:57] <kzm__> Anyway, I can chmod 0 the whole gconfd thing...
[01:57] <kingdong> what for itunes
[01:57] <LookTJ> ^^^:S
[01:57] <Geev8> looktj: but when i login to it through remote terminal i can see and access them but how to return them to apper on my desktop
[01:58] <surreal> what's the proper fs enty for a dvdrw in fstab?
[01:58] <surreal> entry rather
[01:59] <gfxstyler_> hi
[01:59] <myUserName> I tried #aiglx the channel seems dead. If anyone could help me out i am using an intel video card with aiglx and i installed everything fine i have the icon in my menu bar but when i click it and hit enable the screen flickers then if i close hte window and reopen it its not enabled
[01:59] <gfxstyler_> can i save all currently running apps into a kind of session?
[02:00] <gfxstyler_> i want to start the same applications at the same window position with the same commands on every startup
[02:00] <Nameeater> System/Preferences/Sessions
[02:00] <dalfz> any tool that can rip illustrations/graphics off a pdf?
[02:00] <Nameeater> but whether it will do that, probably not
[02:00] <LookTJ> hmm
[02:00] <akim> what is the name of answering  robot?
[02:00] <Nameeater> ubotu ?
[02:00] <gfxstyler_> nameeather: but this doesnt save window positions, virtual desktops and it doesnt store the current commands in the gnome-terminal, right?
[02:00] <Nameeater> no
[02:01] <LookTJ> akin: ubotu
[02:01] <ardchoille> gfxstyler_: The saving of individual window positions would be up the the individual apps
[02:01] <akim> thanks
[02:01] <Nameeater> but you could have a commandline setup that does, tho it may only do one command, look at man gnome-terminal :)
[02:01] <Nameeater> it apparently does geometry
[02:01] <akim> ubotu, how to install xgl
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how to install xgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <Nameeater> !xgl > akim
[02:02] <LookTJ> !xgl
[02:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:02] <ardchoille> akim: type !xgl
[02:02] <akim> oh thanks
[02:02] <akim> :)
[02:02] <Nameeater> or even better, query the bot and message it with the tag ;)
[02:02] <gfxstyler_> nameeather: the thing is, i just have gnome-terminals running because many of my apps are commandline based
[02:02] <Alpha[] > !xgl
[02:02] <LookTJ> Geev8: did you get my pm?
[02:02] <kingdong> does xgl work well with kubuntu or should i give it up
[02:02] <gfxstyler_> nameeather: and i run the terminal commands on each startup and i have to re-position the windows everytime
[02:02] <mtholdenss> y wont amarok upgrade from 1.3.9 to 1.4.2?
[02:02] <gfxstyler_> which is annoying :D
[02:03] <akim> !xgl
[02:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:03] <gfxstyler_> mtholdenss: you have to add the repository to it
[02:03] <edulix> hello !
[02:03] <gfxstyler_> http://www.kubuntu.org @ mtholdenss
[02:03] <edulix> hey which package contains the ruby shell (irb) ?
[02:03] <mtholdenss> gfxstyler what u mean?>
[02:03] <edulix> I have ruby 1.8 installed but irb command is not found
[02:03] <gfxstyler_> apt-cache search irb   < maybe that finds it
[02:03] <ardchoille> gfxstyler_: or you could jst stay logged in
[02:03] <Nameeater> gfxstyler_: well gnome has --geometry which sets its position according to X's geometry rules,  and -x/-e tags, for executing things, you could have all that in a shell script and run that on start up
[02:04] <edulix> gfxstyler_: uhm :P
[02:04] <gfxstyler_> ardchoille: i have a laptop and i dont want to run it all the time ... last time i did that my ac adapter got killed on a power outtage
[02:04] <edulix> thanks!
[02:04] <ardchoille> gfxstyler_: Ah, good point
[02:05] <gfxstyler_> ardchoille: i learned my lesson and unplug the ac adaptor when the laptop is turned off
[02:05] <mtholdenss> what repostitory do i add gfxstyler?
[02:05] <Dimensions> Arafangion: infact i have a script we run in ubuntu machines i want to make interface for it so one can click the command button only to initiate the script or stop it ... etc ...i thought i would use VB as i have done programming in it ... any other idea ? how can i implement it ?
[02:05] <ardchoille> !info gfxstyler
[02:05] <ubotu> Package gfxstyler does not exist in any distro I know
[02:05] <gfxstyler_> mtholdenss: on that kubuntu site there is a news entry on the new amarok, they also point out which repository to add
[02:05] <ardchoille> mtholdenss: aparently, it isn't in the repos
[02:05] <kzm> Hmf.  Perhaps it wasn't gconfd after all?
[02:05] <gfxstyler_> but 1.4.1 is, no?
[02:06] <mtholdenss> oh, cause i neet to upgrade to play cds :p its 1.4.2 the latest
[02:06] <Nameeater> Dimensions: write a shell script then put icons on the desktop/panel :p
[02:06] <Arafangion> Dimensions: Ahh, so you have the source code?
[02:06] <dj_baggio> !fvwm-crystal
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fvwm-crystal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <dj_baggio> !fvwm
[02:07] <ubotu> fvwm: F(?) Virtual Window Manager, version 2.5. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.5.14-6 (dapper), package size 2913 kB, installed size 6448 kB
[02:08] <Crazed> hi
[02:08] <Crazed> I got a little problem ..
[02:08] <Arafangion> Crazed: Evidently.
[02:09] <Crazed> cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
[02:09] <Crazed> this tells me my AGP is disabled
[02:09] <Crazed> but I am using the nvidia driver ?
[02:09] <Crazed> how come ?
[02:09] <Guard] [an> hello
[02:09] <gfxstyler_> hi
[02:10] <Crazed> [17522302.808000]  NVRM: not using NVAGP, an AGPGART backend is loaded!
[02:10] <Crazed> thats what I get with dmesg
[02:10] <Crazed> Arafangion: any clue ? :p
[02:10] <mtholdenss> appearntly it wont work on ubuntu2
[02:10] <gfxstyler_> crazed: i think you load agpgart but the nvidia driver wants nvagp
[02:10] <mtholdenss> amarok 1.4.2
[02:11] <Crazed> erm
[02:11] <Crazed> it should be working with agpgart ..
[02:11] <Guard] [an> would you install ubuntu server or desktop on an old P3 box ? i want to install apache2+php+mysql on it but i wonder if it would be a good idea to keep a desktop installed.
[02:11] <Arafangion> Guard] [an: Aren't the two the one and the same?
[02:11] <gfxstyler_> Crazed: the dmesg complains about the agp thingy, so its worth a try
[02:11] <Crazed> well I need agpgart
[02:11] <Crazed> not that crappy nvagp
[02:11] <kingdong> guard[] an depends how comfortable you are with the command line
[02:11] <Guard] [an> Arafangion: afaik no, the server install does not install you gnome nor kde.
[02:12] <Arafangion> Guard] [an: A server doesn't need a desktop installed.
[02:12] <Guard] [an> kingdong: i'm confortable with command line
[02:12] <kingdong> if all you are going to use it as is a LAMP stack then skip the desktop, it will be a lot easier
[02:12] <gfxstyler_> Guard] [an: first off, those braces are really a hassle :P yeah, but why no server install? should be fast enough
[02:12] <kingdong> well not a lot but you know.
[02:12] <Warbo> Hi, I get my Yahoo mail dumped into an mbox file and I access it with Evolution. Would I be giving away sensitive information if I sent that mbox file to someone (I want them to see subjects, times, senders, content, etc. but not my passwords and stuff)?
[02:12] <Guardian> well
[02:13] <Guardian> for instance, i'm guessing
[02:13] <gfxstyler_> woo, thanks Guardian :) typing is much easier now
[02:13] <Guardian> if i want to install amule, i guess having gnome installed + export display would be better
[02:13] <Guardian> than using the remote gui stuff that does not work very well
[02:13] <kingdong> warbo: maybe it would be better to export the relevant mails as text or something
[02:13] <gfxstyler_> is there no amule cli client?
[02:13] <Warbo> Guardian: MLDonkey works well remotely
[02:13] <NthDegree> Warbo, I believe the passwords to accounts are stored in ,dat files in a hashed MD5 format
[02:13] <Guardian> warbo: did not try this one yet
[02:14] <Warbo> NthDegree: I use fetchyahoo to get the emails, so the passwords for Yahoo are in fetchyahoo config files, I am just wondering if there is anything else sensitive that might be in the mbox file?
[02:14] <gfxstyler_> Guardian: yes there is, you can use amule without gui
[02:15] <Guardian> gfxstyler_: i tried it, but it's rather experimental
[02:15] <gfxstyler_> Guardian: on gentoo, you can compile with -gtk and +amuled, which i think is just CLI + a daemon for running it
[02:15] <Warbo> Guardian: If you want to use MLDonkey then get it from their site (I htink mldonkey.org) 'cos Ubuntu's package is old and badly made
[02:15] <gfxstyler_> oh, sorry i didnt read your above message
[02:15] <NthDegree> Warbo, besides information relation to your operating system and the software usually most sensitive info is kept in separate files
[02:15] <Warbo> NthDegree: OK thanks
[02:15] <Guardian> warbo: ok thx for the info
[02:15] <Wild-Wolf> hi
[02:16] <Guardian> i meed, it's rather a phylosophical discussion
[02:16] <moggio_> has anyone here tried swiftfox?
[02:16] <Guardian> i guess most of what i want will be available from command line
[02:16] <NthDegree> Warbo, it may be a case of copy & paste e-mails into open-office or importing into thunderbird for extra safety
[02:16] <Guardian> but still export display is also nice to have
[02:16] <NthDegree> then you can ensure security
[02:16] <Dimensions> Arafangion: source code to script yes i do
[02:16] <Arafangion> Dimensions: Is porting it to VB.NET an option?
[02:16] <Warbo> NthDegree: I suppose, just that I want to alert my University that they have sent out emails with every student's email address in the header, and that is a lot to copy
[02:17] <Arafangion> Dimensions: That way, mono should be able to run it.
[02:18] <j0lliyo> anyone else have a problem with a wireless with ndiswrapper works for a few mins then just stops transmitting?
[02:18] <mistform> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:18] <mistform>  /var/cache/apt/archives/gedit_2.14.4-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[02:18] <mistform> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:18] <Dimensions> Nameeater: well i am not much into shell scripting i mean i donno how to design stuff in it like command button
[02:19] <Arafangion> Dimensions: I'm not sure how good the mono vb compiler is, so you may be better off using the VB.NET compiler, and making sure that the options to NOT emit machine code is set. (The Microsoft compiler doesn't always produce clean .NET applications - you have to tell it to do so)
[02:19] <mistform> I cannot use apt-get install anymore
[02:19] <mistform> because linux crashed about 3 hrs ago and I was forced to reformat because of a buffer I/O error
[02:19] <Arafangion> mistform: Just the one?
[02:19] <Dimensions> ahhan ...
[02:19] <myUserName> does anyone know any ways to make laptop battery life last longer with ubuntu as my laptop battery runs twice as long using windows
[02:19] <Dimensions> gotch it ..
[02:20] <Dimensions> thanks Arafangion ... and Nameeater
[02:20] <mistform> I had the errors on every single sector until it decided to quit and restart
[02:20] <mistform> it kept forcing checks because of the filesystem
[02:20] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: sure, what cpu and gfx card do you have?
[02:20] <Arafangion> Dimensions: If you don't want to port it, as it's a compiled aplpication, you may have good luck with wine.
[02:20] <Arafangion> Dimensions: But in the long run, porting it is highly recommended.
[02:20] <lupine_85> don't suppose anyone can give me a few hints on how to get falcon working, can they? I'm finding the manpages to be a bit inadequate :(
[02:21] <myUserName> gfxstyler_, intel, everything is intel 14" monitor intel dx8 vid card  1.7ghz
[02:21] <argiopeweb> I'm working on installing Ubuntu on PPC.  What processor does the current version run on?
[02:21] <argiopeweb> I can't find it anywhere.
[02:21] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: you need to load the appropiate modules for your cpu (i mean, for powersaving that is)
[02:21] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: like cpufreq_userspace, cpufreq_ondemand, p4-clockmod
[02:22] <myUserName> how do i find out that? just search synaptic for intel?
[02:22] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: you have to know what type of intel cpu you have ... a mobile one, a desktop one, a centrino, a core duo
[02:22] <Arafangion> argiopeweb: There are versions for the PPC, as well as Intel.
[02:22] <myUserName> gfxstyler_, its a centrino
[02:23] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: and then you have to load the module for that, like p4-clockmod is for normal desktop cpus
[02:23] <argiopeweb> Arafangion: I'm fully aware of that.   :P
[02:23] <Arafangion> argiopeweb: On a G3?
[02:24] <argiopeweb> Right.
[02:24] <Arafangion> argiopeweb: I have a friend running a G3, he reports good success with xubuntu, because it's faster.
[02:24] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: centrinos use speedstepping to scale down their cpu speed, which saves power (and they lower voltage)
[02:24] <myUserName> locate has no results
[02:24] <Arafangion> argiopeweb: But I'm not sure how good the drivers are.
[02:24] <Dimensions> ahh..... one more question abt VB Arafangion.... can we actually install VB in ubuntu ? or we will have to install it on MS OS and use it ?
[02:24] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: damn
[02:25] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: you load modules like: sudo modprobe modulename
[02:25] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: and you unload them like: sudo rmmod modulename
[02:25] <Arafangion> Dimensions: Just checked the mono website (www.go-mono.net), apparently the old version of the VB compiler is officially abandoned, and they're working on a new VB compiler, but it's not released yet.
[02:25] <argiopeweb> Arafangion: That was my problem.   I'm certain that Ubuntu works with my wireless card, but I don't know about Xubuntu.
[02:25] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: and you can automate that process on every startup at /etc/modules
[02:25] <myUserName> gfxstyler_,  oh so sudo modprobe *centrinocraphere*
[02:25] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: yes
[02:25] <Arafangion> Dimensions: But, the main point is that it's all in a portable bytecode anyway, so as long as mono has the system.windows.forms that you use implemented, you should be set.
[02:25] <myUserName> gfxstyler_, and the centrino module should already be on the hdd?
[02:25] <Arafangion> Dimensions: That's the theory, anyway.
[02:26] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: so you can already do: sudo modprobe cpufreq_userspace   and: sudo modprobe cpufreq_ondemand
[02:26] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: yes, i think ubuntu comes with many modules, you just need to load them
[02:27] <myUserName> gfxstyler_, yeah ill look into it later now i know where to look. I need to reboot x to get aiglx working
[02:27] <myUserName> cya
[02:27] <gfxstyler_> see you
[02:27] <Typhon> hello
[02:28] <Dimensions> thanks Arafangion
[02:28] <Typhon> does anyone know the status of Ubuntu with Core 2 Duo and the JMicron PATA controller?
[02:28] <Arafangion> Typhon: Off the top of our heads? No, we don't have a clue.
[02:28] <Typhon> I did a search on the forums but I wasn't able to understand if people were getting it working :)
[02:29] <jpfarias> hi
[02:29] <Awesome-o2000> I am unable to get to the web - whats the "server" kernel for?
[02:29] <jpfarias> I need help with wpa in dapper
[02:29] <Typhon> Arafangion: sorry :) I was hoping someone here had experience with a Core 2 machine :P
[02:30] <jpfarias> anyone knows how to setup wpa with aes encryptation?
[02:31] <longwave> Typhon: it seems that controller is only supported in kernel 2.6.18
[02:31] <longwave> Typhon: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/57502
[02:31] <Typhon> longwave: thanks.... do you know how I could get/make a Dapper install CD with a 2.6.18 kernel?
[02:32] <trygg> Can someone help me with getting tv-out with aticonfig?
[02:33] <longwave> Typhon: sorry, that's a bit advanced for me, and it seems that it isn't fixed in edgy yet, either. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support has lots of forum links that may provide some clues, though
[02:34] <kingdong> can you install normally and then roll a new kernel from kernel.org in
[02:34] <kingdong> that's what i would do
[02:34] <Typhon> well the problem is
[02:34] <Typhon> the optical drive won't be detected
[02:34] <R0cK3T> flash player doesn't support the 64 bit distro of ubuntu
[02:35] <R0cK3T> but i have all the 32bit lib's
[02:35] <kingdong> any chance you can get another PATA PCI controller
[02:35] <kingdong> they only cost about $10
[02:36] <Typhon> kingdong: I'm not sure what you mean by that
[02:36] <atul> Hello! Can anyone here help me with audio please?
[02:37] <Typhon> nevermind... i see
[02:37] <kingdong> i thought your problem was the JMicron PATA controller wasn't supported and so you couldn't use the optical drive
[02:37] <Typhon> well the problem is a bug in the Linux kernel that has been fixed
[02:37] <kingdong> there are knockoff brand pci pata controllers for cheep cheep but they might be hard to find locally
[02:37] <Typhon> yeah I see what you mean now
[02:38] <kingdong> i'm not sure how you could stick a new kernel into an install cd, thats why i suggest this instead... it may well be easier
[02:38] <atul> My audio stopped working - probably after a dist-upgrade, can anyone help?
[02:39] <jolt> Heh im still trying to figure out how to get my second USB audio device detected by ALSA
[02:39] <jolt> Damn Logitech Camera grabbed the USB-Audio for itself
[02:39] <theBeno> My laptop has a problem booting, it prints "GRUB" to the screen then freezes.  Any ideas?
[02:40] <jolt> Framebuffer issue?
[02:40] <longwave> theBeno: was it working before, or is this a new install?
[02:40] <theBeno> longwave, A new insall.
[02:40] <longwave> theBeno: what hardware?
[02:41] <theBeno> It's a Toshiba Satelite.
[02:41] <longwave> theBeno: does http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3306.html help?
[02:41] <longwave> theBeno: in their case there is some recovery software or something installed on part of the drive, which conflicts with grub
[02:42] <longwave> theBeno: it may be similar on your toshiba
[02:42] <kingdong> probably you can disable the recovery partition from the bios to fix it
[02:42] <theBeno> kingdong, THANK YOU!
[02:43] <theBeno> I'll try that. longwave, Thanx.
[02:43] <Awesome-o2000> !server
[02:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[02:43] <kingdong> i had the same problem with my thinkpad
[02:43] <hendrik_v> I need the linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 but I can't find them in the default repositories. Anybody know how come?
[02:44] <hendrik_v> or where to find them?
[02:44] <longwave> !info linux-headers-386
[02:44] <ubotu> linux-headers-386: Linux kernel headers on 386. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[02:44] <Guardian> re
[02:45] <Guardian> is there a tool that can be used to record an x session into a video file ???
[02:45] <erUSUL> !info linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[02:45] <ubotu> linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386: Linux kernel headers 2.6.15 on 386. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15-26.46 (dapper), package size 836 kB, installed size 22988 kB
[02:45] <hendrik_v> thanks ubotu
[02:46] <leeyee> Hello guys
[02:46] <leeyee> I encountered an error 17 when booting a dual-boot box
[02:47] <Healot> Guardian: there are screen capture application, but screen capture video output, none, iirc
[02:47] <Typhon> xvidcap.sourceforge.net
[02:47] <Typhon> --> screencaptures to mpeg video
[02:47] <atul> My audio stopped working - probably after a dist-upgrade, can anyone help?
[02:48] <leeyee> well, anyone can help me with this?
[02:48] <Guardian> cool thx Typhon
[02:48] <leeyee> I intalled it on a SCSI HD, /dev/sda8
[02:48] <atul> everything seems to work but there is no sound!!
[02:48] <leeyee> while sda1 is for WinXP
[02:49] <jolt> no sound.. you can try to change the device in ALSA, esp effective if you have a quickcam connected...
[02:49] <atul> how do I change the device in alsa?
[02:49] <jolt> System | Preferences| Sound in X
[02:49] <mojo> hi every1
[02:49] <mojo> i got a question
[02:50] <mojo> it's about Edgy though
[02:50] <jolt> And set the Default sound Card
[02:50] <mojo> my apt-get refuse to update
[02:50] <leeyee> ? Nobody noticed my post?
[02:50] <sda> nope
[02:50] <jolt> edgy... Double mounting the hard disk, udev errors, thats my day
[02:50] <Warbo> Xvidcap probably works best for screen capture, Istanbul is good but it doesn't work for me. PyVNC2SWF works well as well, but that makes an SWF file which I cannot convert to MPEG (the bundled tools say it isn't supported, even though the manual says it is)
[02:51] <Typhon> leeyee: error 17 seems to be inability to mount a partition... I don't know any more than that
[02:51] <jolt> if the soundcard doesnt appear in the default dropdown its another issue, but that has helped me a few times when doing a dist upgrade
[02:51] <Awesome-o2000> how do I get linux-restricted-modules for the server kernel?
[02:52] <leeyee> Well, I know from the menu.lst  that linux should boot from /dev/sda8, and I DID install it on /dev/sda8
[02:52] <atul> jolt - I'm running kubuntu here, can I do this from the console
[02:52] <leeyee> However, I saw that linux is on /dev/sda6 when I did "fdisk -l" during a live-cd boot
[02:52] <Warbo> leeyee: You know that GRUb would call that "hd(X,7)" (where X would be 0 if it is the first drive) right?
[02:53] <atul> I cann't get sound even with aplay
[02:53] <leeyee> I think it should be (sd0,7)?
[02:53] <leeyee> or sd(0,7)?
[02:53] <mojo> has any1 got into apt-get rejection update after updating from dapper to edgy?
[02:53] <Warbo> alsaconf was really useful. Is there a particular reson they got rid of it?
[02:53] <Warbo> (hd0,7) probably
[02:53] <atul> alsamixer shows no problem (and nothing is muted)
[02:54] <Warbo> GRUB doesn't care about SCSI, SATA, USB, etc. They are all HDs or CDs (I think FD might be floppy as well)
[02:54] <LookTJ> anyone help with my problem
[02:54] <Warbo> LookTJ: I don't know yet
[02:54] <leeyee> My HD is a scsi one, Warbo
[02:54] <Healot> it's always hd :0
[02:54] <Awesome-o2000> how do I get linux-restricted-modules for the server kernel? I beg for help
[02:54] <LookTJ> I want to use VoIPbuster in linux
[02:55] <LookTJ> but its in .exe
[02:55] <Warbo> leeyee: If the BIOS sees it then GRUB will call it (hd<something>)
[02:55] <Warbo> LookTJ: Maybe try WINE
[02:55] <Warbo> !info wine
[02:55] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[02:55] <steamR> Where do I change the default color that's in the backround between login and desktop?
[02:55] <LookTJ> i dont know howto use wine
[02:56] <LookTJ> lawl
[02:56] <Awesome-o2000> am I asking something wrong here?
[02:56] <Warbo> steamR: I think it is in System>Admin>Login Window (failing that it is also in the file /etc/gdm/gdm.conf)
[02:56] <Warbo> LookTJ: Do you have Universe enabled?
[02:56] <LookTJ> yes
[02:56] <steamR> Warbo: tnx
[02:57] <Warbo> LookTJ: OK, then install WINE using Synaptic, then double click the exe file (or type into a terminal "wine programname.exe")
[02:57] <steamR> found it
[02:57] <LookTJ> k ill try
[02:57] <timbobsteve> hey all
[02:58] <mistform> no kernel selection pos
[02:58] <mistform> oh well
[02:58] <mistform> it's my sleepytime... i've stayed up far too long
[02:58] <nubbe> HI, how do I change character encoding in gnome-terminal to ISO-8859-15 for just that session on the command line?
[02:58] <MaxL> how do I create a folder in terminal?
[02:59] <Warbo> MaxL: "mkdir foldername"
[02:59] <HeathenDan> mkdir
[02:59] <MaxL> mmmmkay
[02:59] <Awesome-o2000> how do I get linux-restricted-modules for the server kernel?
[02:59] <LookTJ> how the heck big is wine package?
[02:59] <leeyee> well, I tried "root (hd0,7)", and then was told "Selected disk doesn't exist."
[02:59] <MaxL> Oh and how do I see how all like hidden files and stuff?
[02:59] <leeyee> Warbo, how is then?
[02:59] <MaxL> [I'm trying to get Egoboo to work]
[02:59] <Warbo> WINE -> "package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB"
[02:59] <nubbe> MaxL, ls -a
[02:59] <reiki> MaxL ls -la
[02:59] <MaxL> kk
[03:00] <timbobsteve> I am looking to dual boot my g3 ibook with xubuntu, but in the installer it keeps saying I need a "New World" format partition. Gparted doesn't provide this. I don't have access to the alternate install either. Any ideas?
[03:00] <reiki> or that
[03:00] <LookTJ> thanks Warbo
[03:00] <Warbo> leeyee: Hmm, have you used the 6.06.1 install CD?
[03:00] <leeyee> yes
[03:00] <Warbo> (in other words, are you using a -26 kernel or a -23 kernel)
[03:01] <angelaki> who can help me with ssh??
[03:01] <leeyee> Warbo, yes I do
[03:01] <Warbo> leeyee: So you have 2.6.15-26-386 installed?
[03:01] <reiki> angelaki, just ask your question and whoever can help, will
[03:01] <leeyee> Warbo, 1.6.15-26-686
[03:01] <redi> hello... how do i find out what my ubuntu version is?
[03:02] <Warbo> leeyee: OK, try running in GRUB (press "c" for commandline) "find /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686"
[03:02] <angelaki> i need to connect in my home pc from my work but i cant
[03:02] <Warbo> leeyee: If that says not found then try without the fisrt slash
[03:02] <Warbo> *first
[03:03] <Typhon> angelaki: you're running sshd at home, and your firewall has port 22 open?
[03:03] <kingdong> and your router has port 22 forwarded to that pc
[03:03] <leeyee> Warbo, How can I boot into text mode? I have no idea about that
[03:04] <redi> how do i find what version my ubuntu install is
[03:04] <LookTJ> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\Program Files\\VoipBuster.com\\VoipBuster\\VoipBuster.exe" failed, status c0000135
[03:04] <angelaki> i run sshd in my home and use no-ip service. In my dsl router use port forwarding in port 20002
[03:04] <angelaki> but i can connect only in localhost
[03:04] <LookTJ> ??
[03:04] <Awesome-o2000> how do I get linux-restricted-modules for the server kernel?
[03:04] <Warbo> leeyee: GRUB has a commandline. You can get to it by pressing "c" on the menu screen (the one with all of your operating systems listed on it). If you don't get a menu screen then you can press the Esc key to get out of hidden mode
[03:05] <leeyee> Warbo, you know, I only got a "Error 17" message, so I'm using Live-CD
[03:05] <LookTJ> werbo help
[03:06] <redi> how do i find what version my ubuntu install is
[03:06] <LookTJ> version
[03:06] <reiki> redi, try System -> About Ubuntu
[03:06] <leeyee> Warbo: I even don't know how can I boot into rescue mode in Dapper
[03:06] <Warbo> leeyee: You would get an error if you tried to boot an operating system, but GRUB's commandline is part of GRUb and not part of an operating system
[03:07] <reiki> redi or try uname -a in a terminal and see if that gives you what you're looking for
[03:07] <Lynoure> angelaki: a trivial question: do you then also specify a port 20002 when sshing in?
[03:07] <leeyee> Warbo, you just mean that I can run grub under Live-cd?
[03:07] <LookTJ> warbo i get error
[03:07] <LookTJ> i installed the exe
[03:07] <Warbo> leeyee: No, I mean that you can run GRUB like you have been doing before, but instead of telling it to boot Ubuntu (which isn't working) you tell it to give you a commandline
[03:07] <angelaki> yes
[03:08] <LookTJ> but when i try to run it gets error
[03:08] <Warbo> LookTJ: WINE isn't a complete solution yet, unformunately :(
[03:08] <angelaki> when give ssh localhost -p 20002 works fine
[03:08] <LookTJ> how do i remove the program i installed?
[03:08] <LookTJ> the exe program?
[03:08] <angelaki> but when type ssh -p 20002 angelaki.no-ip.org nothing happens!!!
[03:09] <Warbo> LookTJ: It will be in $HOME/.wine/drive_c/Program Files ($HOME is your home folder by the way)
[03:09] <nubbe> Can I specify character encoding for ssh?
[03:09] <Warbo> LookTJ: That is hidden, since .wine starts with a dot
[03:10] <nubbe> Can I specify character encoding for a specific ssh session only?
[03:10] <leeyee> Warbo, I just pressed 'c' when it appears GRUB Loading stage 1.5...
[03:11] <leeyee> But it didn't helo
[03:11] <Lynoure> angelaki: sounds like something wrong in the router settings or in no-ip. Does no-ip give the right ip, at least?
[03:11] <Warbo> leeyee: does GRUB appear as a fullscreen menu with your operating systems listed, or as a couple of lines of text with a countdown?
[03:11] <LookTJ> thanks warbo
[03:11] <Awesome-o2000> how do I get linux-restricted-modules for the server kernel?
[03:11] <leeyee> Warbo, Nothing
[03:12] <Typhon> angelaki: what kind of authorization is set up with sshd? I used to have a similar problem, but I forget exactly how I fixed it :)
[03:12] <leeyee> I could only see "GRUB loading.....Please wait"
[03:12] <gnomefreak> Awesome-o2000: synaptic :)
[03:12] <Warbo> leeyee: Erm, then how do you know that GRUB is even installed? It must do one of those
[03:12] <Warbo> leeyee: Ah
[03:12] <gnomefreak> no nvm thats a ly
[03:12] <leeyee> Warbo, and then it appears "Error 17" immediately
[03:12] <Warbo> leeyee: Then that isn't nothing, that is a couple of lines of text
[03:12] <Awesome-o2000> gnomefreak im not able to find it with apt-get
[03:12] <angelaki> when i use ping in my machine take answer. Only from local machine works the ping
[03:12] <Awesome-o2000> or apt-cache search
[03:12] <Warbo> leeyee: Does it say anything about pressing Esc?
[03:12] <Awesome-o2000> its for everything BUT server
[03:12] <Awesome-o2000> and my feelings are very hurt
[03:12] <leeyee> Warbo, nope
[03:13] <gnomefreak> Awesome-o2000: apt-cache search kernel? btw server kernel shouldnt need them since its a basic kernel
[03:13] <Awesome-o2000> why shouldnt it need them, I have an nvidia card
[03:13] <Warbo> leeyee: Then GRUB doesn't seem to understand the drive it's on. Maybe you could reinstall GRUB?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> Awesome-o2000: restricted mods are for video mainly and server = no gui
[03:13] <Warbo> !grub
[03:13] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:14] <Warbo> restricted also has some wifi in it as well, right?
[03:14] <Awesome-o2000> thats cracked out - i AM going to have to compile my own kernel :(
[03:14] <leeyee> Warbo, yes I did it.
[03:14] <gnomefreak> Warbo: yes
[03:14] <Warbo> thought so
[03:14] <gnomefreak> Awesome-o2000: no why not just grab a reg. kernel
[03:14] <Awesome-o2000> gnomefreak I dont want preemption
[03:14] <leeyee> War, However, it told that "(hd0,7) selected disk doesn't exists"
[03:14] <Awesome-o2000> it IS a server after all
[03:15] <leeyee> Warbo, so I can't re-install grub
[03:15] <Warbo> By the way, packages are named "linux-XXXXXXX" rather than "kernel-XXXXXXX" since 2.6 was adopted
[03:15] <gnomefreak> Awesome-o2000: than your nvidia card shouldnt matter since you said
[03:15] <Arafangion> Awesome-o2000: Arguably, the main case against preemption was reliability - it was simply less tested.
[03:15] <gnomefreak> Warbo: yes i know but searching kernel will giv eyou all kernel packages :)
[03:15] <Awesome-o2000> I thought it was because it would make the gameserver stutter
[03:15] <Warbo> leeyee: Seems like it's device.map file might be wrong
[03:16] <Awesome-o2000> gnomefreak it always matters to have HW support :(
[03:16] <Warbo> leeyee: That file is in /boot/grub I think, on your installation (in other workds don't go changing the Live CD's by mistake). It should say something like "hd0    sda"
[03:16] <timbobsteve> when the ubuntu installer talks about the newWorld partition, is that /dev/hda1 (its like 33kb or something)?
[03:17] <leeyee> Warbo, okay, I will mount it on, and check that
[03:17] <LookTJ> dang gunz isnt compatiable with wine i gues
[03:17] <Arafangion> Awesome-o2000: Hmm, in that _specific_ case of a gameserver, if there is a documented case against preemption, then you do have a point :)
[03:17] <Arafangion> Awesome-o2000: It's not hard to compile your own kernel anyway :)
[03:17] <Arafangion> Awesome-o2000: Though, I'd ask debian how one compiles it "the debian way"
[03:18] <leeyee> Warbo, I installed it on /dev/sda8, and /etc/fstab shows this too. However, when I did "fdisk -l" under Live-CD, I saw Linux is on /dev/sda6, weird!
[03:18] <Warbo> I'm really sorry I've got to go, someone please help leeyee with GRUB. It won't load, not even it's menu, with Error 17. HD is SCSI and Ubuntu is on sda8, Windows on sda1. I think it might be GRUB's device.map file
[03:18] <Warbo> leeyee: I always go by the sizes rather than the filesystem fdisk tells me
[03:19] <Warbo> bye
[03:20] <angelaki> my friend just now connect in my pc with putty. Why i can't connect from my work linux pc??
[03:20] <timbobsteve> is there a ppc specific channel I can ask questions in?
[03:20] <RyanTMulligan> I do I check if I am using Xorg or XFree86?
[03:20] <T-Rex> I'm trying to install 6.06 on a Thinkpad i1400 Type 2621 Mod 420, and it won't recognise the CD-ROM, any thoughts?
[03:20] <RyanTMulligan> T-Rex: you could do a network install using floppy disks
[03:20] <timbobsteve> RyanTMulligan: check for xorg.conf in /etc/X11/ .... if you have it then its Xorg
[03:21] <RyanTMulligan> timbobsteve: okay thanks, i have xorg.
[03:21] <chell> Hello
[03:21] <timbobsteve> hi
[03:21] <T-Rex> OBTW, complete newbie w/o capability to make floppies
[03:22] <RyanTMulligan> T-Rex: you don't have a floppy drive anywhere?
[03:22] <timbobsteve> T-Rex: ouch... then you have a hurdle ahead of you
[03:22] <Awesome-o2000> ok heres the thing about compiling the debian way
[03:22] <Awesome-o2000> I need to make the kernel appear as if it is the stock 686 kernel
[03:23] <RyanTMulligan> T-rex: does your laptop recognize cd-roms in whatever OS you used to use?
[03:23] <angelaki> my friend just now connect in my pc with putty. Why i can't connect from my work linux pc??
[03:23] <angelaki> my friend just now connect in my pc with putty. Why i can't connect from my work linux pc??
[03:23] <chell> What do  reckon, is .NET programming with VMWare Server + Windows XP + 512 MB RAM (in total in my machine) any good?
[03:24] <timbobsteve> angelaki: that is an ambiguous question... you have given us no information to work with.... give us more info before you get bored and spam the channel
[03:24] <gr33npho3nix> angelaki: firewalls?
[03:24] <timbobsteve> chell: .NET is never good
[03:24] <timbobsteve> :P
[03:24] <chell> Well, I need it
[03:24] <chell> and I don't want to mess around with mono
[03:24] <Oni-Dracula> wow
[03:24] <Oni-Dracula> something in amarok is eating my cpu
[03:24] <chell> so, my question is: Will it run fast enough?
[03:24] <sda> then UNneed it...
[03:24] <angelaki> i dont have firewall
[03:24] <timbobsteve> chell: the virtualisation is good... or dual booting... whichever you prefer really
[03:24] <T-Rex> Thinkpad recognized CD-ROM under Win98, and it booted from CD-ROM (set the BIOS), but when I go to install 6.06, it says I need to install the drivers from a floppy.  Can't find the drivers, will have to re-install old hardrive (w/ Win98 on it) in order to use the box
[03:25] <chell> I can't just UNeed things
[03:25] <timbobsteve> chell: I think it will run OK for development purposes
[03:25] <chell> ;-)
[03:25] <Arafangion> chell: You have fewer crappy drivers, so it may run faster.
[03:25] <sda> :D
[03:25] <visik7> hi
[03:25] <chell> alright thank you
[03:25] <visik7> why changelogs.ubuntu.com aren't in synk with the real state of the packages ?
[03:25] <LookTJ> warbo will photoshop install via wine?
[03:26] <fildo> hi ppl. having an issue with knetstats and wondering if anyone could help me out
[03:26] <T-Rex> RyanT, evidently thinkpad CD-ROMs are nonstandard
[03:27] <infidel> what do i use at console if i want to move more thatn one file at a time?
[03:27] <Typhon> chell: don't know anything about VMWare but in just winXP and VS.NET its about 270MB memory load
[03:27] <Ackeubu_> if i cant install the dependency should i install the package manually? " Depends: ttf-dustin  but it is not installable"
[03:27] <chell> I'm not going to use VS.NET (or at least probably not)
[03:27] <chell> SharpDevelop will do
[03:27] <chell> or a simple text editor
[03:28] <chell> well that's a little too simple ;-)
[03:28] <Typhon> well, then there shouldn't be a problem :)
[03:28] <chell> good
[03:28] <leeyee> Thanks you guys, I've fixed it
[03:28] <leeyee> Thanks Warbo, although you are not here
[03:28] <visik7> for example mono is at <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu2 but http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/interpreters/mono says it stay at <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu3
[03:29] <T-Rex> RyanT, how do I do a network install if I can make the floppies?
[03:29] <LookTJ> gftp?
[03:29] <LookTJ> or something
[03:29] <LookTJ> idk
[03:30] <chell> I have two network cards and would like to figure out which one (eth0 or eth1)  has received an ip adress from my dhcp router. I've already run ifconfig and I think it's eth0. Can someone please confirm if I paste my output on some no-paste service?
[03:31] <kingdong> check the topic for pastebin
[03:31] <fildo> i need to install kdelibs-bin but it comes up and tells me
[03:31] <fildo> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:31] <fildo>   kdelibs-bin: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.2) but it is not going to be installed
[03:31] <fildo> E: B
[03:32] <visik7> fildo: you have sources.list messed up
[03:32] <chell> the output is in German though (I have to use a German machine here :-( ): http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/3386/
[03:33] <Trackilizer> I built in a old video card in my old PC but it only shows black and white.
[03:33] <Trackilizer> It has no color.
[03:33] <chell> I think it is eth0, can anyone confirm
[03:33] <chell> no colour, hmm. Everything okay with your xserver?
[03:33] <visik7> fildo: here kdelibs-bin is installed with all its own dependancies
[03:34] <LookTJ> what are chances of installing msn live?
[03:34] <LookTJ> via Wine
[03:35] <Arafangion> Low to non-existant.
[03:35] <fildo> hmm ok. cause i used the source list generator thats all
[03:35] <chell> try vmware
[03:35] <chell> and install win xp
[03:35] <chell> then it will work
[03:35] <Arafangion> chell: I use qemu + kqemu for visual studio, myself. :)
[03:35] <visik7> !restricted
[03:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:35] <kingdong> would /dev/hdh be hd7 in grub?
[03:36] <LookTJ> i would have to buy vmware
[03:36] <chell> is qemu faster than vmware
[03:36] <chell> no
[03:36] <chell> there is a free version
[03:36] <chell> VMware Server
[03:36] <LookTJ> where?
[03:36] <chell> www.vmware.com
[03:36] <Trackilizer> I changed the card and it works well, i don't have any color when i put this on in.
[03:36] <LookTJ> for linux?
[03:36] <chell> yes
[03:36] <Arafangion> chell: I hate how they make it hard to find quickly.
[03:36] <Arafangion> Personally, I'm very happy with qemu and kqemu :)
[03:36] <mattikoo> Hello. What services have to be running that reboot and shutdown runs right?
[03:37] <angelaki> how i can add a missing dll in wine??
[03:37] <chell> I hate it that you have to register to get a serial
[03:37] <Arafangion> angelaki: Try adding it as you would windows - and hope that it doesn't do anything other than just call other dll's.
[03:37] <eliphas> qemu is really slow compares to vmware
[03:37] <eliphas> imo
[03:37] <Arafangion> eliphas: Hence why I use kqemu as well :)
[03:38] <eliphas> ok
[03:38] <eliphas> i never tried kqemu
[03:38] <Arafangion> eliphas: Infact, windows runs _faster_ in qemu than it does on the real hardware.
[03:38] <lakefire> good morning
[03:38] <Arafangion> eliphas: (But, I do seem to have seriously crap drivers installed with the factory installation)
[03:38] <eliphas> Arafangion i agree with that my windows never started so fast
[03:38] <LookTJ> chell i only have a 40Gb hd
[03:38] <LookTJ> that ok?
[03:39] <chell> yes
[03:39] <chell> totally
[03:39] <Arafangion> LookTJ: I give qemu 10G, and that's still plenty
[03:39] <eliphas> Arafangion you where not expecting to use the 3D on your qmeu :)
[03:39] <lakefire> I am looking at getting help playing mp3's on my ubuntu machine that are stored on a windows server on the LAN
[03:39] <Arafangion> eliphas: I _don't_ use 3D in my qemu ;)
[03:39] <eliphas> LookTJ I used 5 gb on vmware
[03:39] <fredl> what's a decent screen grabber?
[03:40] <fredl> !grab
[03:40] <Arafangion> eliphas: Apparently vmware has an edge when it comes to graphics, but qemu is just as fast in everything else.
[03:40] <eliphas> I am using windows 2k
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <fredl> !grabber
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grabber - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <fredl> Hmm
[03:40] <chris`> hi, how can i create a link to a command on my desktop? i just want to click on the icon and it shall run the command
[03:40] <LookTJ> um sorry idk howto install vmware
[03:40] <Arafangion> fredl: gimp, you are going to edit it anyway, right?
[03:40] <LookTJ> chell join chitchat
[03:40] <chell> LookTJ: I can walk you through it
[03:40] <Arafangion> fredl: Or, just hit printscreen.
[03:40] <chell> chitchat?
[03:40] <LookTJ> yea
[03:41] <chell> what do you mean by chitchat
[03:41] <fredl> Arafangion, nope, not going to edit any, I knew of gimp to do it and I want only part of the screen. Oh well, gimp will do.
[03:41] <Arafangion> fredl: Aha, so you *do* want to edit it.
[03:41] <LookTJ>  /j #chitchat
[03:41] <r33> hey there..  I've got 5.04 : The Hoary Hedgehog ubuntu and am having trouble getting certasin websites.  I've tried using both Firefox and Mozilla broswer.  How can i check my DNS settings?
[03:41] <kingdong> lol awesome i installed gentoo and when i boot off the drive all it does is say GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB
[03:41] <kingdong> i mean ubuntu.
[03:41] <fredl> Arafangion, no I don't want to edit it, hence 'not going to edit any' :)
[03:41] <Arafangion> fredl: Did you say you only wanted a part of the screen?
[03:42] <fredl> Arafangion, yup.
[03:42] <Arafangion> fredl: QED
[03:42] <Typhon> semantics
[03:42] <Typhon> is clipping actually "editting"?
[03:42] <lakefire> r33:  Should be able to go to System > Admin >networking
[03:42] <fredl> heh
[03:42] <Arafangion> Typhon: Quad Eratum Demonstratum, indeed. Yes, clipping is a change.
[03:42] <fredl> I see.
[03:42] <fredl> Hums
[03:42] <r33> ok cheers lakefire.
[03:42] <eliphas> LookTJ here is a guide for vmware server
[03:42] <eliphas> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server
[03:42] <fredl> Arafangion, grrr :)
[03:43] <chris`> hi, how can i create a link to a command on my desktop? i just want to click on the icon and it shall run the command
[03:44] <eliphas> gnome : right click create launcher
[03:44] <fredl> uhh gimp help starts up Konqueror
[03:44] <fredl> wow
[03:44] <godfather> hi everybody
[03:45] <fredl> chris`, just right click the icon from your menu
[03:45] <lakefire> chris: right click on desktop > create launcher > put command in
[03:45] <Arafangion> fredl: I see your running kubuntu?
[03:45] <fredl> and then 'add this launcher to desktop'
[03:45] <chris`> fredl i use xubuntu
[03:45] <fredl> Arafangion, no I have used kubuntu-desktop in the past.
[03:45] <chris`> i need perhaps the console commad
[03:45] <r33> lakefire: is there is a way to flush the DNS, similar to the Windows command ipconfig /flushdns
[03:45] <nubbe> HI, how do I change character encoding in gnome-terminal to ISO-8859-15 for just that session on the command line?
[03:45] <lakefire> r33 are you behind a linksys router?
[03:46] <IndyBC> Hello. I have installed sendmail with apt-get, but I removed it. However, many many files have remain, related to sendmail. How can I remove them?
[03:46] <fredl> chris`, what window manager does xubuntu come with again?
[03:46] <IndyBC> * remained
[03:46] <Typhon> chris', you can always use a shell script instead of a launcher
[03:46] <tarzeau> IndyBC: like config files?
[03:46] <lakefire> and, i am not familiar with the flushdns command in windows.
[03:46] <tarzeau> IndyBC: you can remove them with apt-get --purge (or dpkg)
[03:46] <IndyBC> tarzeau: not only
[03:47] <IndyBC> tarzeau: NOT only config files :(
[03:47] <nubbe> Can I specify character encoding for a specific ssh session only?
[03:47] <r33> lakefire: nope.  Direct connection, no router
[03:47] <fredl> Xfce... I don't know anything about Xfce to be honest.
[03:47] <tarzeau> IndyBC: well try it, and look what's left over
[03:47] <IndyBC> cron scripts, man docs, tars and others
[03:47] <IndyBC> tarzeau: I did
[03:47] <fredl> I used to use fluxbox when memory was low...
[03:47] <IndyBC> and it said: sendmail is not installed so cannot be removed
[03:47] <tarzeau> IndyBC: dpkg -l |grep sendmail says what?
[03:47] <IndyBC> w8
[03:48] <KenSentMe> IndyBC: reinstall it, then remove it with --purge
[03:48] <IndyBC> ii  sendmail-base                          8.13.5-3ubuntu1.1    powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans
[03:48] <IndyBC> ii  sendmail-bin                           8.13.5-3ubuntu1.1    powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans
[03:48] <IndyBC> ii  sendmail-cf                            8.13.5-3ubuntu1.1    powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans
[03:48] <tarzeau> IndyBC: it's all still installed
[03:49] <IndyBC> KenSentMe: --purge removes only the config files, or all the files related to the package?
[03:50] <Arafangion> IndyBC: remove deletes the package. --purge *also* deletes the config files.
[03:50] <Jenga> Would anybody mind having a look at an error log resulting from a failed install of Xfce4.4rc1?
[03:51] <IndyBC> Arafangion: I know. But it removes only the config files or also, all others related to the package?
[03:51] <IndyBC> (I don't mean the essential package files themselves)
[03:51] <Marlun> How come when I write "ps" I only get bash and ps, but if I do "top" I get some other processes like fastcgi processes? can I see them and their pid in a static list somehow?
[03:51] <fredl> IndyBC, --purge will ONLY delete all files from one SINGLE package
[03:51] <n00blar> Hi all...does anyone know how to import pictures from a digital camera? I have a Canon PowerShot and I'm getting a message that it cannot mount. I can't seem to access the forums for some reason
[03:51] <IndyBC> fredl: I know this. After:
[03:52] <Typhon> marlun: try ps ax
[03:52] <kingdong> ps -aux
[03:52] <IndyBC> sudo apt-get --purge remove sendmail will there be any files related to sendmail?
[03:52] <kingdong> any idea what grub error 17 means
[03:52] <Typhon> does ps require the '-'?
[03:52] <fredl> IndyBC, no sendmail config files and no files from the sendmail package. I think I know what you mean though, you mean if there will still be related packages installed, correct?
[03:52] <Ackeubu_> hey you guys. installed quake2 from syaptic. it says files are missing. and i read that the full quake2 needs to be installed..??
[03:53] <fredl> Grrr so he leaves before he could read that.
[03:53] <kingdong> no ps doesnt require the -
[03:53] <Marlun> Typhon, kingdong: thanks! :)
[03:54] <fredl> deborphan is kinda cool actually
[03:54] <Ogus> hi folks, got a question -- I'm 1.5 weeks new to Linux -- got  Alienware area 51 with a Nforce4 motherboard and a 6800 ultra/ nvidia graph card. I am having trouble installing games and I'm sure its because I need to update my nvidia drivers. 1) how do you Exit the X server? 2) does anyone have a good URL that explains the process with dapper?  I have a Canon PowerShot and I'm getting a message that it cannot mount. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[03:57] <steamR> Ilike ubuntu, but I feel it is well "OverBranded". Managed to clear all indications of ubuntu, except from that african tarraram sound at gdm login. How can i remove that?
[03:57] <nubbe> HI, how do I change character encoding in gnome-terminal to ISO-8859-15 for just that session on the command line?
[03:57] <Typhon> ogus-- not exactly
[03:58] <TmScot> excellent dapper drake ppc on an imac333mhz
[03:58] <fredl> no, ctrl-alt-backspace. ctrl-alt-f1 will take you to a virtual console (text)
[03:58] <Typhon> that switches terminals
[03:58] <philipsmith> I plugged my digital camera into the USB port to import new photos. The camera shows as an icon on my desktop, but the new photos aren't in the folder under that new icon... only old photos that I had erased. What is this about?
[03:58] <kingdong> you mean you don't want to stick the ubuntu stickers all over your pc?? omfg rofl.
[03:58] <n00blar> Ogus, if you do a search on the ubuntu forums for Automatix, you'll find a link and instruction on how to install it
[03:58] <juan> .steamr its under login screen options under acesibility
[03:58] <Typhon> ogus: when you ctrlaltf1 you can get back to X with ctrlaltf7 or so
[03:58] <steamR> juan: tnx
[03:58] <fredl> alt-f7
[03:59] <Ogus> nooblar: ok thx man I havent tried that yet -  its just I cant get any game to run
[03:59] <Typhon> :)
[03:59] <Nookie^> !aiglx
[03:59] <juan> !fonts
[03:59] <Nookie^> !fonts
[03:59] <juan> where does ubunutu put the fonts?
[03:59] <n00blar> Ogus, playing Windows games in Linux is tricky....you will need a program called wine
[03:59] <Nookie^> fonts://
[04:00] <Ogus> yea I saw wine but that looked tricky too
[04:00] <Ogus> thought I would try to install better drivers - if they are better before trying wine
[04:00] <n00blar> Ogus, or if you're willing to pay a subscription fee, you can support Transmeta...they support lots of games by using a modified version of wine
[04:00] <Ogus> transmeta - ok ill check that out too
[04:01] <n00blar> Ogus, I subscribed to transmeta and payed for their product..it's called Cedega, and I'm able to play many games..some just don't work thouh :(
[04:02] <LordSkylark> hello
[04:02] <juan> please anybody, i have tahoma installed but need to copy the file to wine, but i dont know where the windows and/or linux copies of my fonts are kept
[04:02] <Ogus> I was thinking of getting another drive and installing windows on that just for games but, you know, I'm sick of windows
[04:02] <steamR> juan: U know where to change the "stert" menu icon as well?
[04:03] <n00blar> Ogus, well, check out Transmet.com and see if the game you want to play is supported by them
[04:03] <steamR> start
[04:03] <juan> nope i no nothing i just came across turning sounds off yesterday
[04:03] <n00blar> I play only two games, so I'm ok...but if you play lots of games, you might want to go that route...dual booting to XP
[04:04] <Ogus> k will do - got a few new suggestions I havent done yet so thanks - appreciate it
[04:04] <n00blar> np
[04:04] <LordSkylark> Ogus: if you want to pla games on linux you cn try Cedega
[04:04] <LordSkylark> =)
[04:05] <LordSkylark> can*
[04:05] <Ogus> k
[04:05] <LordSkylark> anyone can help me setting up a philips webcam on my ubuntu 6.06 please?
[04:05] <LordSkylark> :)
[04:06] <LordSkylark> i did some searches on the web and everyone sais that it is working
[04:06] <LordSkylark> but no tutorial found
[04:06] <LordSkylark> :(
[04:06] <Naik0> Hey, my sound is working greatnow, but can i turn off that i hear my self?
[04:06] <Naik0> when i talking in the mic
[04:06] <jon_k> Naik0, you mute the mic
[04:06] <Naik0> then i cant talk
[04:06] <jon_k> Naik0, install alsamixer (apt get it if need be)
[04:06] <Naik0> i got alsa
[04:06] <jon_k> it's one of the mic things if you hit M on it, it will disable the echo
[04:07] <Naik0> ok
[04:07] <jon_k> i think to the right of the slider for the mic input volume
[04:07] <jon_k> if your soundcard supports it, it should disable the echo
[04:07] <kingdong> does anyone know how to fix: "GRUB loading, please wait... Error 17"
[04:07] <jon_k> kingdong, what happened to break it?
[04:07] <Hannnibal> got a sound prob too ;)
[04:08] <kingdong> it never worked in the first place jon_k
[04:08] <LordSkylark> :(
[04:08] <wor> part
[04:08] <wor> sorry
[04:08] <jon_k> Naik0, mike boost should fix the mike ehco
[04:08] <kingdong> i haven't been able to boot from ubuntu on my hard disk yet
[04:08] <LordSkylark> noone knows how to install philips spc200 nc webcam?
[04:09] <Healot> nope, LordSkylark, checked out the webcam compatibility list yet?
[04:09] <Jimmey> I've got a PCI nVidia GeForce card, and have just installed 6.06 to find that X won't start. What's the problem?
[04:09] <LordSkylark> Healot: where? :O
[04:09] <\m> moin
[04:09] <LordSkylark> Jimmey: where you found a pci video card? :O
[04:10] <Healot> ubuntu's hcl page, or better >> Google
[04:10] <\m> ex-chat
[04:10] <\m> ?
[04:10] <Jimmey> LordSkylark, Amazon.
[04:10] <Jimmey> But more importantly, X won't start. How can I get it work?
[04:11] <kingdong> does anyone know how to get past the error 17 in grub to boot ubuntu? icant find it in the FAQ
[04:11] <mojo> o la la, GNOME 2.16 is close to be out
[04:11] <Crazed> Jimmey: did you install any new drivers or updated your kernel ?
[04:11] <mojo> edgy just got new gnome-icon-theme-2.16
[04:11] <mojo> reallly nice icon set
[04:11] <Jimmey> Crazed, it's a fresh install
[04:11] <Crazed> then it sux :D
[04:11] <Crazed> what video card do you use ?
[04:12] <jon_k> kingdong, i'd try reinstalling grub, follow the second posts directions on this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[04:12] <Jimmey> Crazed, GeForce 5200FX
[04:12] <Crazed> hmm it's should just be working
[04:12] <Luke> could someone tell me if this website works for them please?  I can ping the url but it doesn't come up in any browser but neither does it say it can't find the site.  it is www.librarything.com
[04:12] <Crazed> did you only install it ?
[04:12] <Jimmey> Yep
[04:12] <kingdong> thanks jon_k i will do it =)
[04:12] <Luke> I'm at a loss as to how to trouble DNS
[04:13] <Luke> in ubuntu 5.04 hoary hedgehog
[04:13] <jon_k> kingdong, hope it works ;]
[04:13] <chell> Luke: works
[04:14] <kingdong> i have 4 hard disks and it's a pain to get these to work right sometimes
[04:14] <MKR> D:
[04:15] <Luke> chell: many thanks.  Now I have to work out why it won't open in my browser.  Tried Mozilla, Lynx and Firefox
[04:16] <Luke> I can ping the domain so it resolves the domain to its location
[04:16] <Luke> but if i try and open it in a browser it just says connecting to www.librarything.com
[04:16] <Luke> and never opens.  Anyone suggest anhything?
[04:17] <Typhon> just for that site or any site?
[04:17] <covOPprometheus> sup guys, I'm having trouble with my cdrom: it's listed like hdb but there is no /dev/cdrom
[04:17] <covOPprometheus> can anyone help?
[04:17] <infidel> !xgl
[04:17] <infidel> !xgl
[04:17] <infidel> !compiz
[04:18] <Luke> typhon: just that site
[04:18] <infidel> anyone? amybody?
[04:18] <Luke> as far as I can tell anyway
[04:20] <Typhon> Luke: does restarting nscd do anything?
[04:21] <e-lynx> alguien tiene xgl/compiz instalado y que "gracias" a la ultima actualizacion le haya fallado?
[04:21] <lonki> afternoon all, small question about the server versions, which version holds nagios2 ?
[04:21] <Healot> !es
[04:21] <Luke> typhon: nscd?  how would I do that?
[04:21] <ryanakca> how do you upload to the wiki?
[04:22] <Typhon> well I was wondering if you were running some caching program
[04:22] <Typhon> like dnsmasq or nscd
[04:22] <Goose> Wow, Automatix is kinda slick.  Just testing out XChat
[04:22] <Healot> ow
[04:23] <Luke> not to my knowledge I'm not
[04:23] <ompaul> e-lynx, this is an english language channel, Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:25] <Typhon> :< maybe they banned your IP segment
[04:26] <Luke> :(
[04:26] <chell> ain't there an alternative site?
[04:27] <jjjjjjj> hello.  how do i "upgrade" to edubuntu?
[04:27] <chell> jjjjjjjj:
[04:27] <chell> install edubuntu-desktop
[04:27] <jjjjjjj> I'm running 5.10
[04:27] <jjjjjjj>  thx chell
[04:27] <chell> np mate
[04:27] <jjjjjjj> sudo apt-get?
[04:27] <chell> yeah
[04:28] <jjjjjjj> i opted to install the 5.10 from a cd vs. d/l edubuntu 6.06
[04:28] <nil> hi!
[04:28] <chell> oh
[04:28] <chell> well
[04:28] <jjjjjjj> but i remembered "upgrading" to edubuntu a few months ago
[04:28] <chell> so you have 5.10 non edubuntu and want dapper edubuntu?
[04:29] <jjjjjjj> ya something like that
[04:29] <jjjjjjj> either or.. doesn't matter... this pc is going to be for a young school age person
[04:29] <chell> then you have to install edubuntu edubuntu-desktop and change every breezy in your sources.list to dapper and run a dist-upgrade
[04:29] <Healot> change all the breezy entry to "dapper"; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; pray to GOD your installation isn't broken
[04:29] <ompaul> !easysource
[04:29] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:30] <nil> how can I have all the LAN printer detected? I selected the option in the printers tool, but nothing happens? am I missing something? I opened the 631 port via firestarter, and all the printers are driven bu a cups server on the network
[04:30] <n00blar> Hi all...does anyone know how to import pictures from a digital camera? I have a Canon PowerShot and I'm getting a message that it cannot mount. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[04:30] <ompaul> jjjjjjj, before you do (A) did you use outside sources? (B) can you do >> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop << before you start
[04:31] <infidel> anyone know why xgl doesn't don't want to work for me?
[04:31] <jjjjjjj> i did a sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop just now
[04:32] <chell> good
[04:32] <jjjjjjj> it's chugging along at 2133kB
[04:32] <infidel> compiz.real: Screen 0 on display ":1.0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager.
[04:32] <infidel> compiz.real: No managable screens found on display :1.0
[04:32] <jjjjjjj> oops
[04:32] <jjjjjjj> 50.1kB/s
[04:33] <nil> n00blar: you are connecting it through usb?
[04:34] <mudarey> slm
[04:34] <mordof> alright i've got listed in linux 2 sound cards, however the default one in the sound properties does not work with my audio jack.. and my real sound card doesn't show up (but i have my audio to play out of it, like games and rhythmbox) but since the default player is the one that doesn't work, flash audio doesn't work
[04:34] <mordof> can anyone tell me how to disable an audio device inside linux? the other device isn't in my bios
[04:35] <rixxon> what can i do to get wifi working
[04:35] <chell> gotta go cya
[04:36] <juan> where dose ubuntu install system fonts
[04:36] <RaD|Tz> Is there a way to go from 6.06.1 yoto knot2?
[04:36] <RaD|Tz> Is there a way to go from 6.06.1 to knot2?
[04:36] <Linuturk> http://www.ubuntu.com/ << why does the search bar say Buscar ?
[04:36] <MinisterPolite> good morning. a package by the name of "csm" is marked to be installed as an upgrade with this mornings updates. Selecting the package in Synaptic give no description. anyone know what this is?
[04:37] <mordof> rixxon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[04:37] <rixxon> Linuturk, random language
[04:37] <rixxon> mordof, i'll have a look thanks
[04:37] <mordof> np
[04:37] <RaD|Tz> Linuturk, mine says sog
[04:37] <Linuturk> wierd . . .
[04:37] <n00blar> nil: yes, I'm connecting through USB, sorry for the delay I was afk
[04:38] <lakefire> I need help playing mp3 files that are located on my windows server.  I am on ubuntu 6.06
[04:38] <kingdong> !ubuntu
[04:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[04:38] <kingdong> !ubotu
[04:38] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:38] <lakefire> I can get them to work in movie player, but nothing else
[04:38] <jjjjjjj> hmm... i left this pc on for a few days and a notice saying a new version of the linux kernel has just been installed and a reboot asap to complete the system update.  can i abort this edubuntu "upgrade"?
[04:39] <jjjjjjj> it's in the d/l portion of the "upgrade"
[04:39] <MinisterPolite> jjjjjjj: once you get a proper nick you'll get a proper answer
[04:39] <jjjjjjj> hey man.. that nick is 10 years old
[04:40] <nil> what do you think about this, for my network printer problem? http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2127
[04:40] <mordof> hmmm
[04:40] <jjjjjjj> back from the #win95 era
[04:40] <n00blar> Hi all...does anyone know how to import pictures from a digital camera? I have a Canon PowerShot and I'm getting a message that it cannot mount. Camera's connecting using USB.
[04:40] <kingdong> it is better than a nick of all underscores
[04:40] <kingdong> i have done it hehe
[04:40] <MinisterPolite> jjjjjjj: thats really nice
[04:40] <mordof> alright so when i did lshw, it reports that i have 2 cpus each with a physical id, and then inside those are 2 logical cpus.. i was aware it was dual core but does that mean they both have HT on them or something?
[04:41] <nil> n00blar: if you have no other scsi or usb harddisk/memory, can you try "pmount /dev/sda1" from the console?
[04:41] <n00blar> nil: I do have an external HD that's connected via USB
[04:42] <SpudDogg> anyone know if it is possible or feasible to play games like flight simulator or HL2 (and the mods) under ubuntu?
[04:42] <n00blar> nil: that device's connected to sdb1 though
[04:42] <mordof> SpudDogg, check the wine compatibility list
[04:42] <SpudDogg> mordof, wine?  is that an emulator or something?
[04:42] <mordof> yes
[04:42] <mordof> windows emulator
[04:42] <SpudDogg> gotcha
[04:42] <mordof> well..
[04:43] <Tom_> Bonjour tout le monde !!
[04:43] <mordof> it trys to run programs that are originally for windows, i don't know if it's technically an emulator
[04:43] <SpudDogg> how about performance...does wine take alot of resources?
[04:43] <iain_> hi all
[04:43] <kishore> hi all
[04:43] <SpudDogg> iain_: hello
[04:43] <SpudDogg> kishore: hello
[04:43] <jjjjjjj> all left a few minutes ago
[04:44] <iain_> sorry folks 1st time online using Linux.... feel a bit of a newbie
[04:44] <kishore> SpudDogg, hello
[04:44] <SpudDogg> mordof:  how about performance...does wine take alot of resources?
[04:44] <nil> n00blar: so, what's the exact message from pmount/dev/sdb1 ?
[04:44] <nil> n00blar: just "can't mount"?
[04:44] <mordof> SpudDogg, depends on the game
[04:44] <nil> Tom_: => #ubuntu-fr ? :)
[04:44] <SpudDogg> iain_ dont worry man, i'm a noob too
[04:44] <SpudDogg> iain_ learning though :)
[04:44] <iain_> cool
[04:45] <frying_fish> mordof: it's not an emulator, its in the name "Wine Is Not an Emulator"
[04:45] <frying_fish> it is an implementation of the windows api.
[04:45] <n00blar> nil, problem is I don't know which device the camera is being recognized as...the ubuntu import photo reads: Could not append folder '/DCIM/101AALOL' as this folder already exists.
[04:45] <kishore> among all buntus which one is prefferable.. x,u,k buntus
[04:45] <mordof> frying_fish, alright
[04:46] <frying_fish> mordof: sorry I wasn't being offensive, was just saying what it is.
[04:46] <AngryElf> is there anything like symantec backup exec for linux?
[04:46] <jjjjjjj> !backup
[04:46] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[04:46] <mordof> frying_fish, i know, i didn't take it as offensive. i wasn't sure weither it was an emulator or not and that cleared it up
[04:46] <frying_fish> AngryElf: lots of other tools that will do backup, like rsync.
[04:46] <frying_fish> mordof: :)
[04:47] <mordof> frying_fish, i'm just tryiong to see if ubuntu even picks up that i have a wireless card installed
[04:47] <AngryElf> that wasn't really my question.......is there anything like backup exec that is really robust, for linux?
[04:47] <mordof> it's frustrating because in a lower kernel (same version just 386: no dual core support) it picks it up perfect
[04:47] <n00blar> spud, I would do a search on www.winehq.com to make sure taht the game you want to play is fully supported..if it's not, try cedega from transmeta.com
[04:47] <mordof> but yet the 686 version does not
[04:47] <frying_fish> mordof: ok, lspci...
[04:47] <frying_fish> interesting that it picks it up in 386 but not 686
[04:48] <mordof> yeah
[04:48] <mordof> that's why it's pissing me off
[04:48] <nil> n00blar: so, it seems that the camera is already mounted as a volume
[04:48] <mordof> cause in 386 i can use wireless but not both my cores
[04:49] <nil> n00blar: type "mount" in the console, you should then see the camera listed in the mounted volumes
[04:49] <opexoc> what repository should I add to be able to install libusb 0.1.8 or higher?
[04:49] <n00blar> nil, it can't be (at least I think so). I unplugged it, rebooted, logged back in and then plugged it back in and I'm getting the same message all the time
[04:49] <antoine_> bonjour
[04:50] <antoine_> tt le monde
[04:50] <kingdong> salut
[04:50] <py_> when  install nvidia-glx on an up-to-date Dapper system, I get a version which is different from the kernel-module version. ANd thus it doesn't work. How to fix that?
[04:50] <kingdong> is all i have to do to switch to kubuntu is install kubuntu-desktop?
[04:50] <mordof> frying_fish, when i do lspci i get an Unknown Device 4222 where my wireless card should be
[04:50] <Przemcio1978> hi, how to resize /home partition using gparted? is it possible at all?
[04:50] <nil> n00blar: did you verify with "mount" ?
[04:50] <mordof> kingdong, are you on gnome right now?
[04:51] <kingdong> yes i had the regular ubuntu disks
[04:51] <kingdong> with gnome
[04:51] <mordof> i would seriously advise against that
[04:51] <mordof> and download kubuntu
[04:51] <mordof> and install it from that
[04:51] <kingdong> hm really.
[04:51] <kingdong> crap.
[04:51] <mordof> i did that and it screwed EVRYTHING up
[04:51] <frying_fish> mordof: interesting, so it kind of recongises it.
[04:51] <mordof> frying_fish, yeah.. but it doesn't have a driver for it in the new kernel maybe?
[04:51] <n00blar> nil, yes...I can paste the results...can't remember the site to paste it to though
[04:52] <mordof> is there a way to pull a driver from a kernel and package it so i can install it into another one? heh
[04:52] <Przemcio1978> i want to make some free space on my hard drive for winblows but i can't do it
[04:52] <py_> ok, so nvidia driver support is broken at the moment, that's what I should understand?
[04:52] <nil> n00blar: http://pastebin.com/ for example
[04:52] <frying_fish> mordof: possibly
[04:52] <frying_fish> maybe ndiswrapper would help.
[04:52] <frying_fish> mordof: what is the wireless card?
[04:52] <choique_> hi i whant to install zendstudio and i habe this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22528
[04:52] <frying_fish> you may be able to get the driver from the manufacturer itself and just compile it into your current kernel.
[04:52] <BeepAU> how's firestarter? i've used windows firewall programs in the past, and i've found they can be quite intrusive (e.g. ZoneAlarm), is firestarter similar in this respect?
[04:53] <mordof> umm.. it's the wireless card on the acer aspire 5610
[04:53] <n00blar> ni, Ok, thanks...just pasted it
[04:53] <frying_fish> mordof: best bet is to look online for it
[04:53] <frying_fish> so you know what model card it is and such
[04:53] <choique_> i have libc6 librarie and the link to
[04:53] <frying_fish> and then can look for a driver.
[04:53] <choique_> choique@choique:~$ ls -l /lib/libc.so.6
[04:53] <choique_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2006-07-17 16:35 /lib/libc.so.6 -> libc-2.3.6.so
[04:53] <koizo7bsemnick> hello
[04:54] <mordof> frying_fish, i have the model and such in the manual book beside me
[04:54] <hadi> hi
[04:54] <Healot> BeepAU: firestarter is a packet filter builder, not the actuall firewall
[04:54] <koizo7bsemnick> how can I instal true tipe fonts in UBUNTU?
[04:54] <hadi> where is font folder?
[04:54] <BeepAU> Healot -- whats a packet filter? what should i use as a firewall then?
[04:54] <mordof> frying_fish, integrated Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[04:55] <Healot> beepau: http://en.wikipedia.org/Firewall
[04:55] <kingdong> UBUNTU
[04:56] <MinisterPolite> kingdong: ubotu spam is unwelcome
[04:56] <mordof> frying_fish, the weird part about it also though is that under lshw it lists the driver it is using, and it recognizes it as an ethernet controller
[04:56] <kingdong> ?
[04:56] <py_> so, no way at all to get nvidia driver to work at the moment?
[04:56] <mordof> frying_fish, it's currently using the ipw3945 driver
[04:56] <frying_fish> ok, so it is an interl
[04:56] <opexoc> Does anyone of you use some multifunction printer? Because I have bought one this day and I have some problems with installation.
[04:56] <frying_fish> which should work mostly fine
[04:56] <mordof> yeah, my chipset is intel
[04:57] <frying_fish> I know my 2200 works perfectly
[04:57] <mordof> should i do that same check on my older kernel and see what kind of output i get?
[04:57] <mordof> or won't that help
[04:58] <fog_proxy> Hi all. Does ubuntu has 'play' command for play sound?
[05:00] <koizo7bsemnick> how can I instal true tipe fonts in UBUNTU?