[20:10] <DEViUS> Dr_Willis, it would nice of you if you provide me the command to block the TCP and UDP port 17500, which i said to be used by CrazzyNet Trojan, and apparently after using rkhunter, chkrootkit, i founf nothin
[20:10] <Dr_Willis> kitty_:  a Nintendo DS? ive heard so many bad things about how they do wireless.
[20:10] <dassouki> switch10_: I'm not an open source nazi
[20:10] <Dr_Willis> DEViUS:  i dont use the stuff to block ports. so i dont know the command.. someome else gave a template right below where i mentioned ufw
[20:10] <dassouki> Dr_Willis: unfortunately,  i need to put them on an sd disk
[20:11] <synx> switch10_: not true.  I think it is.
[20:11] <switch10_> synx: what do you mean?  I always thought mp3 was closed source
[20:12] <guntbert> dassouki: please mind you language
[20:12] <Dr_Willis> synx:  i havent messed with iptables in ages.
[20:12] <synx> DEViUS: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[20:12] <grendal_prime> im having a hard time getting my dell 1420 to display on the external video.
[20:12] <synx> switch10_: There are many quite capable mp3 encoders and decoders that are both totally open sourced and free.
[20:12] <grendal_prime> anyone have any advice on external screens?
[20:12] <sektorNBA> hi. anyone here use squid_ldap_group ?
[20:13] <DEViUS> synx, aha thnx thats much better
[20:13] <Orphee> im learning xhtml and i want to publish a non prof  website i have ubuntu 9.10 64bits how can i publish it?
[20:13] <synx> np ^^
[20:13] <guntbert> !ot | Orphee
[20:13] <synx> Hey I can't get the liveCD to work. The splash screen displays then the CD drive winds down, then nothing.
[20:14] <DEViUS> synx, so i had done a port scan wiht nmap before and found those ports open, do i need to rebboot before rescanning, or thats it
[20:14] <Orphee> i thought that would be related but sorry dudes:(
[20:14] <guntbert> synx: standard question: did you !md5sum check the image before burning?
[20:14] <dassouki> synx: dunno I'm on ubuntu, and been using it for about 5 years now, through crossover and wine, i run $20k worth of closed source software that simply has no FOSS alternatives ... if you're in niche non-computer related markets, Close source for now is the only way to go
[20:14] <synx> DEViUS: you should never have to reboot, nope.
[20:14] <synx> Orphee: try #apache
[20:14] <synx> guntbert: yes
[20:15] <Orphee> thanks synx
[20:15] <guntbert> synx: strange
[20:15] <synx> dassouki: if there's no alternatives, not much you can do, but closed source really is the equivalent of "hey give me your computer and trust me."
[20:16] <DEViUS> synx, hmmn but nmap still says Discovered open port 17500/tcp on <MYIP>
[20:16] <apparle> is there any alternative to matlab
[20:16] <burzki> synx, are you trying to boot/install from the liveCD, or trying to mount it on the desktop?
[20:16] <dassouki> apparle: octave, numpy/scipy, ....
[20:16] <dassouki> apparle: start with octave
[20:16] <synx> guntbert: I also ran md5sum on md5sums.txt on the CD I burned, and that checked out OK too.
[20:16] <dassouki> if you know a bit of python, venture into numpy or R
[20:16] <kane77> is there any fix for usb drives (flash and harddrives) being TERRIBLY slow? It's spend last hour copying 700MB file..
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> DEViUS:  use some port scanning web site. scanning yoruself.. can be.. a little conruseing
[20:16] <dassouki> kane77: could it be that your usb is slow ?
[20:17] <aschi>  hello italiano??
[20:17] <synx> DEViUS: Where are you running nmap from? Not the same computer you're trying to firewall I hope?
[20:17] <kane77> dassouki, could, if it wasn't much faster in windows :/
[20:17] <dassouki> aschi: #ubuntu-it <-maybe
[20:17] <synx> burzki: boot from the liveCD
[20:17] <apparle> dassouki: have you tried it personally.... I want it for image processing
[20:17] <guntbert> synx: next thing that comes to my mind: is the CD dirty? is the drive faulty?
[20:17] <DEViUS> synx, ofcos not, i scan it with my otha pc
[20:17] <dassouki> apparle: I use it for work, I do mostly matrix analysis
[20:17] <guntbert> !it | aschi
[20:17] <synx> I can mount the liveCD just fine.
[20:18] <DEViUS> synx, im rely concerned about this port after reading its for a CrazzyNet Trojan
[20:18] <burzki> synx, are you just wanting to try the liveCD, or do an install?
[20:18] <apparle> dassouki: is there an image processing toolbox for it?
[20:18] <synx> guntbert: The drive is from a 2 year old e-machines prefab PC. :/ That's probably the problem. The CD is about 10 minutes old.
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> DEViUS:  tell the channel what your whole network is like then. 2 pcs going into a router to the internet or what exactly?
[20:18] <trism> apparle: this may be what you want http://octave.sourceforge.net/image/index.html
[20:18] <burzki> synx, in either case, i would try mounting it on the desktop, then install from there ..
[20:18] <apparle> dassouki: and how is scilab compared with octave
[20:19] <synx> DEViUS: You mean CrazzyNet backdoor for Windows?
[20:19] <humbolt> how do I get a fully functional (non-free) version of ffmpeg for ubuntu?
[20:19] <synx> burzki: just try it for now.
[20:19] <dassouki> apparle: I'm not sure, but try in #octave .. they'll be better help
[20:19] <guntbert> synx: I know its no help - can you try the CD in another drive?
[20:19] <Dr_Willis> humbolt:  you could compile it.. i also think theres ppa's for  ffmpeg with different options
[20:19] <synx> I don't want to touch this person's HD since they're afraid I'll break it.
[20:19] <Scunizi> humbolt: possibly over at medibuntu.com
[20:19] <DEViUS> synx, exactly thats weird, maybe because i am using wine something is working behind there
[20:19] <burzki> synx, yeah, just try mounting it from the desktop ..
[20:19] <synx> guntbert: I have a drive on this computer, but it's always on and I can't conveniently reboot. :/
[20:20] <DEViUS> synx, i have my home network all on one router then the internet
[20:20] <done_`> hey need to ask! i want to block torrent anyone know what port should i close? thx
[20:20] <en1gma> sup all? i just  installed ubuntu 9.10 and then i added the kdebase....but at login screen i cant select kde. can someone tell me what i misisng
[20:20] <synx> guntbert: I was hoping there could be some options I could try that get around faulty drives.
[20:20] <burzki> synx, otherwise, i've had some troubles w/ the CD's as well, sometimes had to reboot 5-6 times before it took ..
[20:20] <e66>  I see a connection state ESTABLISHED by "netstat -an --proto tcpip". How do I close a socket from cmdline?
[20:20] <guntbert> synx: well, install virtual box, attach the real drive to a VM and boot that
[20:20] <Scunizi> en1gma: there may be a button/selection called "sessions" .. that's where you make the change
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> done_`:  Im not sure you can do it by blocking single ports. Most torrent clients can randomize the ports..
[20:21] <johnny-break> oklñ
[20:21] <done_`> Dr_Willis can i do it with multiport using iptables ? a specific range ?
[20:21] <synx> burzki: I can mount it on this computer, but I wanted to boot into it on the other computer, running Windows.
[20:21] <Scunizi> done_`: you could signup for the free www.opendns.com account and block it with that
[20:21] <en1gma> yea i seen that after  installled and logged off but kde wasnt in it so i shutdown and then power on and now sessions isnt even there now
[20:21] <synx> guntbert: you're kidding me
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> done_`:  no idea.  Ive never wanted to block it.. and the isp's all seem to have a hard time blocking it... :)
[20:21] <en1gma> Scunizi,  do you know what i mean
[20:21] <sektorNBA> hi. anyone here use squid_ldap_group ?
[20:21] <humbolt> medibuntu does not have ffmpeg
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> done_`:  i know i can set my torrent client to use most any port .
[20:22] <done_`> Dr_Willis ya right
[20:22] <xeviox> can someone help me installing scratchbox?
[20:22] <guntbert> synx: no - that was meant in earnest - I have some virtualization on nearly all my computers
[20:22] <burzki> synx, what happens if you load the cd with windows already running?
[20:22] <xeviox> I'm not that experinced in linux and get always an "Inconsistency detected by ld.so" error
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> done_`:   it can proberly even use common service ports.. or theres always using vpn to get around it
[20:22] <Scunizi> en1gma: when I've done it I installed the full kubuntu-desktop after ubuntu and then "sessions" had the option to boot into the kde environment.
[20:22] <DEViUS> synx, exactly thats weird, maybe because i am using wine something is working behind there
[20:23] <en1gma> ahh i just did base
[20:23] <en1gma> let me try what oyu said
[20:23] <done_`> Dr_Willis aha iptables doesn't support layer7 so i think i have to either block range of port or change policy to BLOCK and allow specific port =)
[20:23] <Scunizi> en1gma: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:23] <Storm3yy> Hey
[20:23] <WinfredNg> I want use VPN on Ubuntu, Any Idea? Thanks.
[20:23] <Pipi772> Helloooooooooooo!
[20:23] <en1gma> ok trying it now
[20:23] <Storm3yy> Anyone use EBS with Amazon EC2?
[20:23] <diabolix> didn't there used to be a way to make the panel stick to some minimal size, rather than expanding and contracting whenever I click something?
[20:23] <Pipi772> need h-e-l-p Koala Upstart... Documentation is hard..
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> done_`:    just turn off the power.. :) thats easier.
[20:24] <Hilikus> how can i make emacs not start in split mode with that garbage in the bottom?
[20:24] <guntbert> diabolix: did you look at panel properties?
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> Pipi772:  whats teh exact question about Upstart?
[20:24] <xeviox> no one able to help?
[20:24] <diabolix> guntbert, yes
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> xeviox:  never seen or heard of that error befor.. so no idea.
[20:25] <Pipi772> Hi Dr_Willis, i removed gdm, load xinit on rc.local and i want to run <<tsclient -x terminal.rdp>> automatic on startup
[20:25] <diabolix> guntbert, I meant horizontal size. width.
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> xeviox:  no idea what scratchbox is either.
[20:25] <scorpey> HI
[20:25] <DEViUS> synx, hey r u there ??
[20:25] <guntbert> diabolix: what does expand do?
[20:25] <scorpey> I nead help
[20:25] <synx> burzki: will check, one minute
[20:25] <xeviox> Dr_Willis: seems to be a tool for crosscompiling ..
[20:26] <Scunizi> scorpey: don't wait.. ask a question
[20:26] <scorpey> help with dpkg
[20:26] <diabolix> guntbert, it makes it take up the whole side of the screen.
[20:26] <Scunizi> scorpey: don't wait.. ask a question
[20:26] <aperson> how wise would it be to remove the ubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[20:26] <jsn> I swear I'm not an idiot. My chroot'ed bind9 is giving the right answers for ns1.[mydomain].com and ns2.[mydomain].com but I can't seem to get any answer for www.[mydomain].com. Is there a braindead ubuntu tool for creating zone and named.conf.local files?
[20:26] <Scunizi> aperson: won't hurt
[20:26] <Storm3yy> I'm logged into a user account on my server how do I login to the root one?
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> aperson:  its not real imporntant
[20:26] <Storm3yy> It dosnt seem to let me it says to use a user
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> Storm3yy:  use sudo.
[20:26] <Scunizi> Storm3yy: use "sudo" for admin tasks
[20:26] <scorpey> При обработке следующих пакетов произошли ошибки:
[20:26] <scorpey>  vsftpd
[20:26] <scorpey> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:26] <FloodBot4> scorpey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:27] <scorpey>  Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:27] <scorpey> Whot is IT
[20:27] <Pipi772> Dr_Willis
[20:27] <guntbert> diabolix: ah - I misunderstood - my panel is at the top .... - then you could modify "size"
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> Pipi772:
[20:27] <plustax> Hey guys. I have a compiz cube. I was wondering...how do I set a different wallpaper for each side of the cube?
[20:27] <Pipi772> how do i run something with xinit
[20:28] <Storm3yy> Dr_Willis - I don't want too. I need to use the root acc
[20:28] <Dr_Willis> Pipi772:  ive not used xinit in ages.
[20:28] <jsn> Pipi772, I'm no expert, but I'd look at .xinitrc
[20:28] <Dr_Willis> Storm3yy:  sorry to hear that. its best to learn how to use sudo.
[20:28] <Storm3yy> Also how do I leave tasks running when it close the SSH on my PC?
[20:28] <aperson> thanks Scunizi, Dr_Willis
[20:28] <maco> Storm3yy: screen
[20:28] <Dr_Willis> Storm3yy:  look into screen, or the nohup command
[20:28] <humbolt> I do not find a good guide to get full blown ffmpeg in karmic
[20:28] <jsn> Storm3yy, start them with nohup. Actually, screen is probably better, a little harder to learn
[20:28] <DEViUS> ok so i guess i need someone elses help, i need to block port 17500 TCP and UDP, becos its for a Windows CrazzyNet Trojan, and i am running wine so i guess its there, some1 pliz help
[20:28] <Pipi772> Yes maybe i faced it wrong..
[20:28] <christine_> c'est spécial quand même
[20:29] <synx> burzki: It shows the Ubuntu Menu, asking me if I want to reboot, or install it or whatnot.
[20:29] <aperson> jsn, bybobu makes screen pretty easy to use
[20:29] <Dr_Willis> humbolt:  i recall seeing guides on compiling ffmpeg in ubuntu. (or using the cvs or wharever versions)
[20:29] <done_`> hey Dr_Willis check this : http://www.ipp2p.org/ =)
[20:29] <jsn> DEViUS, you want to learn iptables, to block everything not allowed. The Ubuntu IptablesHowTo is pretty good.
[20:29] <Pipi772> Dr_willis, i just want to run tsclient with a softly linux,
[20:29] <tilen> hi i have problem glxinfo:1480 freeing invalid memtype f0102000-f0112000 ??
[20:29] <jsn> DEViUS, or, you could just act quickly, and remove those lines from /etc/services
[20:29] <jsn> DEViUS, rather, comment them out
[20:29] <plustax> Hey guys. I have a compiz cube. I was wondering...how do I set a different wallpaper for each side of the cube? Please help!
[20:30] <Scunizi> plustax: don't think you can on gnome
[20:30] <aperson> plustax, you need to patch nautilus to do that, afaik
[20:30] <scorpey_> sory
[20:30] <DEViUS> jsn, i already set the default as deny, and i need to block anything not defined, wats with the            /etc/services           i didnt quite get that
[20:30] <Dr_Willis> Pipi772:  so why are you doing all this weirdness? what are you gainign by all this?
[20:30] <jsn> DEViUS, if a port isn't in /etc/services, it is blocked. Comment out any port, it is blocked.
[20:30] <Dr_Willis> Pipi772:  use gdm, and a minimal window manager that just runs the app.. is how i would go about it.
[20:30] <burzki> synx, hmm.  it doesn't give you an option to run it live?
[20:31] <scorpey_> I install vsftpd not from port, i install from source
[20:31] <ChaoticXSinZ> Heyo all
[20:31] <VCoolio> plustax: you need to prevent nautilus from desktop, which also means no icons there, and then set different wallpapers in compiz wallpaper plugin
[20:31] <scorpey_> and whot do nou
[20:31] <jsn> DEViUS,  but if you have iptables running, that's definitely where you want to do this
[20:31] <ChaoticXSinZ> Is there a way to utilize wins but only after DNS?
[20:31] <kboes> could anyone tell how to install the drivers for my ATI HD 3650 graphicscard, last time I tried couldn't even log in (the last time I used the fglrx driver)
[20:31] <guntbert> !root | Storm3yy
[20:31] <dimitar> for what is port 6025?
[20:31] <dimitar> :D
[20:32] <Scunizi> dimitar: could be anything
[20:32] <Pipi772> Dr_Willis how do i use gdm with a minimal window manager ??
[20:32] <synx> burzki: There are three menu options. The first says demo. The second says it'll install. The third says learn more.
[20:32] <dimitar> www.serbiandownload.com....port 6025...ckeck it?
[20:32] <dimitar> check it*
[20:32] <DEViUS> jsn, my iptables are supposed to be runnning, i guess , how do i check
[20:32] <jsn> dimitar, check it for what?
[20:33] <dimitar> for port?
[20:33] <dimitar> it pop up in my desktop
[20:33] <dimitar> something like
[20:33] <jsn> DEViUS, the IPtables how to from help.ubuntu is pretty darn good. iptables -L -v lists them
[20:33] <scorpey_> anyone see me?
[20:33] <dimitar> 6025 port is open
[20:33] <Scunizi> dimitar: could be a trojan
[20:33] <dimitar> please login
[20:33] <dimitar> lol
[20:33] <burzki> synx, and demo gives you the splash, then quits?
[20:33] <rob0917> MY 9.10 desktop froze on me,I did a ctrl-alt-delete and it brought up a menu to restart or shutdown .I would like to know if there's a way to logout of x rather than restart ?
[20:33] <dimitar> trojan...i dont thing sooo...:D
[20:33] <ChaoticXSinZ> COuld someone help me with setting up WINS and DNS?
[20:34] <jsn> I've _mostly_ got my named service up and running, but am having trouble adding the alias I desperately need. What's the simplest way to configure bind9?
[20:34] <Scunizi> rob0917: ctrl+alt+F2 .. login .. then .. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (or stop)
[20:34] <Scunizi> rob0917: on 9.10 you might be able to "service gdm stop (or restart)
[20:35] <trism> rob0917: or just sudo stop gdm
[20:35] <synx> burzki: No, booting from the CD gives me the boot menu, and when I try to load the liveCD it freezes on the splash screen.
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> Pipi772:  install the window manager.. and golly.. there Should be a entry for it in the gdm menus at the bottom. :)
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> Pipi772:  or make your own whatever.desktop entry for gdm to make your own 'session' that launches whatever you want.
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> If one connectys to the internet.. then  enables a VPN in the network manager. do only 'new' programs/connextions use the vpn?
[20:35] <FloodBot4> Dr_Willis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:35] <zeitlos> immortal soul sons
[20:35] <Vonnick> Need some help... I'm running Hardy and I can't open anything as root. Like sudo nautilus. It just hangs, so what's going on?
[20:35] <baz> one annoyance I have on a daily basis is going to delete or move or edit a file only to be told that I don't have the perm - of course, I forgot to be root, so I have to drop down to the command line, sudo nautilus &, and go back to what I was doing - are there any ways to improve this work flow?
[20:36] <Scunizi> Vonnick: how 'bout gksudo nautilus?
[20:36] <guntbert> !gksudo | Vonnick
[20:36] <jsn> Vonnick, root doesn't own the display, can't open apps, see what Scunizi said.
[20:36] <Vonnick> gksudo does the same thing
[20:37] <Scunizi> Vonnick: did you happen to create a root login at one point?
[20:37] <burzki> synx, hmm.  does the demo then just run like a slideshow or something, and not a live OS?
[20:37] <DEViUS> jsn, but i still dont quite get how you block ports, in the list under /etc/services    those are allowed, anything not listed shud be blocked especially after doing    ufw default deny        is that correct
[20:37] <wojtek> where can I find helpfull tutorial on how to use CouchDB
[20:37] <Vonnick> Nope. I just installed
[20:37] <synx> burzki: when I disable quiet and splash, it gets to /scripts/casper-premount then some SCSI stuff pops up, then nothing but Drive Not Ready errors as the drive winds down.
[20:37] <Scunizi> Vonnick: you don't still have the cd in the drive do you?
[20:38] <guntbert> baz: don't use sudo with GUI apps - see above
[20:38] <Vonnick> Scunizi: Nope, checked em all
[20:38] <dimitar> ok
[20:38] <dimitar> i fix it
[20:38] <dimitar> :D
[20:38] <Scunizi> Vonnick: have you done all your updates?
[20:38] <dimitar> bhahaha
[20:38] <FloodBot4> dimitar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <Vonnick> Yes
[20:38] <baz> guntbert, oh yes gksudo, although sudo always works fine, but I have heard that
[20:38] <synx> burzki: no all it does is ask me if I want to reboot.
[20:38] <jsn> DEViUS, ufw default deny <== what does that mean?
[20:38] <ut2_> !lista
[20:38] <izmitLi> seLamün aLeyküm.
[20:38] <Scunizi> Vonnick: very weird.. outside of suggesting a reboot that probably won't do anything.. I"m at a loss.
[20:39] <burzki> synx, 9.10?
[20:39] <guntbert> baz: caution - it does not always work fine - it can mess up your settings
[20:39] <Vonnick> Scunizi: Rebooted way to many times already :(
[20:39] <DEViUS> jsn, the uncomplicated firewall, Setting the default mode of ufw, i made it on deny like this
[20:39] <Scunizi> Vonnick: what are you using nautilus for at root?
[20:39] <izmitLi> Siz ne iþsiniz :)
[20:40] <maco> !ar | izmitLi
[20:40] <Vonnick> Scunizi: So I can replace some files for Gimp
[20:40] <jsn> DEViUS, i know iptables as much as is listed in the howto, can't help with ufw
[20:40] <guntbert> !tr | izmitLi
[20:40] <maco> i was looking for arabic
[20:40] <izmitLi> Tm Sakin olun :)
[20:40] <gigetto> ciao
[20:40] <message144> I want to upgrade all the packages on my system. Not sure if i should use "apt-get upgrade", "apt-get dist-upgrade", "aptitude upgrade", "aptitude safe-upgrade" or "aptitude dist-upgrade". Any advice?
[20:40] <synx> burzki: yup
[20:40] <DEViUS> jsn, thnx i gtg now ill come back later maybe
[20:40] <Scunizi> Vonnick: replace? are they newer/older or just missing?
[20:40] <DEViUS> thnx to all
[20:40] <switch10_> My screen has recently stopped working properly (hardware issue). I have my system set so when I close the screen on my laptop, it shuts the screen off. I have to actually push down pretty hard on the lid to get the actual screen to shut off.
[20:40] <gigetto> !list
[20:40] <switch10_> How would I go about writing a script to shut the screen off after 5 min of inactivity? I know how to do it with the GUI (preferences>screen saver>power management), but since I change this setting so often (watching movies, etc.), it would be nice to automate this process.
[20:41] <Vonnick> Scunizi: Neither :P I'm replacing the splash image for my friend
[20:41] <ortsvorsteher> message144, try  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:41] <guntbert> maco: that would be sa
[20:41] <Scunizi> Vonnick: have you tried from the terminal? sudo cp <path to file> <path to new location>
[20:41] <ironfoot495> hello I'd like to know how to fix the localhost that seems to go to a Debian page?
[20:41] <maco> guntbert: ah ok thx
[20:42] <Vonnick> Yeah, I've already replaced it
[20:42] <synx> nodmraid doesn't fix the problem either... I remember that working on another CD drive years back.
[20:42] <Vonnick> But I'd like to know why I can't open anything as root :P
[20:42] <mezquitale> Anyone here uses virtualbox?  If I reimage my machine, can I still use the same virtual machine that I have stored in partition I use to store data?
[20:42] <synx> message144: I use apt-get dist-upgrade, but some see that as a bit overly aggressive.
[20:42] <Scunizi> Vonnick: someone else will have to take up the banner on this one.. at least sudo works.
[20:42] <ironfoot495> Also I have a problem with getting rid of xampp and installing lampp?
[20:43] <mezquitale> !root| Vonnick
[20:43] <synx> message144: general rule is apt-get update once a day, and apt-get upgrade at least once a week.
[20:43] <guntbert> Vonnick: maybe you messed up by invoking sudo nautilus (instead of gksudo) - but in the console sudo <something> works fine - right?
[20:44] <done_`> hey got problem during compile  http://pastebin.com/m432723ea anyone can help thx
[20:44] <Vonnick> guntbert: yeah
[20:44] <Vonnick> I can update and stuff with sudo
[20:44] <message144> synx, once a day? even on a production server?
[20:45] <trism> switch10_: you could probably use gconftool-2 to edit the properties under /apps/gnome-power-manager/timeout (such as sleep_display_ac, sleep_display_battery)
[20:45] <guntbert> Vonnick: and what happens with gksudo gedit <some file> ?
[20:45] <dimitar> why for example when i choose *software sources* and then *choose a download server* i find out that the best download server is located in other country...?why is that?why not my country?
[20:45] <occy> how can I tell which one I should use for my Dell Precision M6400 for wireless:  Broadcom STA or Broadcom B43 ??
[20:45] <dimitar> "D
[20:45] <Scunizi> synx: message144 don't forget apt-get dist-upgrade once a month as well :)
[20:46] <message144> Scunizi, still cant seem to figure out what dist-upgrade actually does
[20:46] <message144> heh
[20:46] <Vonnick> gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf hangs as well
[20:46] <Scunizi> message144: if there is an upgraded version of a package (not just security) it'll update
[20:47] <synx> message144: production server? I don't follow... apt-get update updates your package list, but doesn't upgrade any packages. apt-get upgrade upgrades stuff... and apt-get dist-upgrade somewhat arbitrarily upgrades stuff that might involve a lot of inter-package dependancies.
[20:47] <Guest72158> What's ubuntu
[20:47] <message144> ok, got it
[20:47] <lordneo> hi all
[20:47] <message144> Scunizi, so on a newly provisioned box, i should probably run dist-upgrade?
[20:48] <done_`> hey got problem during compile  http://pastebin.com/m432723ea anyone can help thx
[20:48] <dimitar> Guest72158: Ubunti is OS!
[20:48] <lordneo> there is anyone that has come knowledge on wine that can give me a hand?
[20:48] <Scunizi> message144: I always do.. in one line with ... sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:48] <lordneo> some**
[20:48] <Scunizi> lordneo: I do.. but my kids are older now and they just ask for stuff :)
[20:49] <burzki> synx, i had trouble getting past casper several weeks back, even w/ a good md5sum.  i ended up redownloading the .iso from a different server and burning a clean disc, as well as to usb.  both worked for me.
[20:49] <ThomasBerends> hi, i'm using ubuntu netbook remix, and i accidently clicked the icons on the panel (on the top) away.. now i want to add them, but i can't , (normally it is right click on the panel, and then add something, but i don't have space left, so that won't work)
[20:49] <synx> There's really no reason to update more often than you upgrade...
[20:49] <Vonnick> guntbert: wait, gedit just opened but it's super slow
[20:50] <Italian_Plumber1> what does updating without upgrading accomplish?  Nothing?
[20:50] <Scunizi> synx: unless you're just looking to trigger the "update" appelate for security patches..
[20:50] <diabolix> i tried to run an xmonad session, and it doesn't seem to work...
[20:50] <synx> I just update more often to download the packages in the background.
[20:50] <scorpey_> sorry
[20:51] <synx> burzki: that's... impossible though. I got the md5 sum for the ISO directly from ubuntu's website. Could it possibly be an accidental hash collision?
[20:51] <guntbert> Vonnick: somewhere in the links ubottu has about !root !sudo !noroot there is a pointer to a tutorial how to recover from messing up with sudo
[20:51] <BluesKaj> Scunizi, the latest and safest (I've been informed) is to use 'sudo do-realease-upgrade -d ', for alpha&beta versions , drop the -d for official releases
[20:51] <scorpey_> and ho can help me
[20:51] <root> Hello Everyone
[20:51] <switch10_> how do I open the non GUI power management preferences in a terminal?
[20:51] <burzki> synx, ditto, but ??  was very confusing for me.  i think i rebotted twenty times before i gave up
[20:51] <switch10_> is there one?
[20:52] <done_`> hey can someone help me  got problem during compile  http://pastebin.com/m432723ea anyone can help thx
[20:52] <lordneo> Ok, now i have a screenshot
[20:52] <BluesKaj> switch10_, probly but I've never seen it
[20:52] <Scunizi> BluesKaj: dist-upgrade isn't designed to upgrade to the next ubuntu release.. you use it from within your current release to "possibly" upgrade packages to the latest version.. however .. you are correct in what you have said for a release upgrade
[20:52] <synx> burzki: well, maybe I'll try it... hm...
[20:52] <scorpey_> and
[20:52] <lordneo> Can anyone help me with Wine?
[20:52] <burzki> synx, unless its something about the boot loader in the windows machine ..
[20:52] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | lordneo
[20:52] <Apachez> where do I find out how to connect to a wifi network which doesnt run wep or wpa or wpa2 ?     Using system -> network only seems to like to connect password protected networks but how do I connect to one ssid which doesnt use password ?
[20:52] <Billiard> lordneo: what is the problem
[20:52] <lordneo> Ok, sorry
[20:52] <BluesKaj> Scunizi, yeah , but I use aptitude so the syntax is a bit different there too
[20:53] <lordneo> I get some weirdo horizontal lines when executing a game
[20:53] <lordneo> http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/LordNeoZ/screenshot.jpg
[20:53] <synx> burzki: thankfully the BIOS will successfully boot from CD bypassing any hard disk boot loader.
[20:53] <airtonix> switch10_, you do it by using the command line tools to manipulate gconf
[20:53] <Billiard> Apachez: you should be able to connect to unprotected networks fine
[20:53] <lordneo> I have changed the resolution and some stuff recommended on several webs
[20:53] <Apachez> Billiard ?
[20:54] <Apachez> Billiard: how ?
[20:54] <burzki> synx, so it must be something of the disc
[20:54] <Scunizi> BluesKaj: pretty close.. apt-get was just shorter for me to type :)
[20:54] <Billiard> Apachez: same as connecting to a protected one, just wony ask for a password
[20:54] <Apachez> but it forces me to choose of   WEP, WPA, WPA2
[20:54] <airtonix> switch10_, http://library.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/gconf-6.html.en
[20:54] <Apachez> there is no "NONE" to select in the dropdown
[20:54] <burzki> synx, i presume you do not have the alternate .. ?
[20:54] <Apachez> using ubuntu 9.10
[20:54] <Billiard> Apachez: where?
[20:54] <Apachez> system->network
[20:55] <done_`> can someone help me
[20:55] <Apachez> administration -> network
[20:55] <airtonix> switch10_, the tree path taht will interest you is /apps/gnome-power-manager
[20:55] <gp5st> when i ls a file it exists, but when i run it the response is that the file doesn't exist
[20:55] <gp5st> i have 755 on the file, owned by me
[20:55] <Apachez> I select eth1
[20:55] <switch10_> airtonix: perfect!!  thanks!
[20:55] <Apachez> deselect roaming mode
[20:56] <Toxic_Burn> hi!
[20:56] <Apachez> password type has only four options
[20:56] <Toxic_Burn> lol
[20:56] <ortsvorsteher> gp5st, how do you run it? like: ./filename ?
[20:56] <Apachez> wep hex     wep ascii     wpa personal     wpa2 personal
[20:56] <burzki> !ask | done_`
[20:56] <Toxic_Burn> need help 'bout network and ports?
[20:56] <Jamed> gp5st: i once had the same problem with a little 32bit programm which i tried to run on 64bit computer. maybe that is the problem?
[20:57] <gp5st> ortsvo: yeah
[20:57] <done_`> burzki hey can someone help me  got problem during compile  http://pastebin.com/m432723ea anyone can help thx
[20:57] <gp5st> jamed: yeah, that's prob it:(
[20:57] <gp5st> i'm trying to install the intel compilers v 11.1
[20:57] <gp5st> and this program keeps failing
[20:58] <gp5st> but they distribute the ia64 version of this helper program in the intel64 package but they use the 32bit one
[20:58] <airtonix> !who
[20:58] <gp5st> and i just need the frakin' libs
[20:58] <gp5st> airtonix: everyone
[20:58] <airtonix> gp5st, read the msg from the bot .
[20:59] <Jamed> gp5st: well, if it really is the problem, you can do nothing but get a 64bit version
[20:59] <maria__> hello.  Why is there no proprietary driver listed in hardware driver settings for graphic card?  I have no 3d acceleration.  Flash playback is very bad.
[20:59] <Apachez> Billiard: so ehm.. any ideas ?
[20:59] <paissad-hp> hi
[20:59] <eut> hello
[20:59] <gp5st> airtonix: read what i wrote you
[20:59] <eut> how can i manually start the bluetooth applet?
[20:59] <Scunizi> maria__: what kind of card do you have?
[20:59] <gp5st> jamed: yeah:
[20:59] <Billiard> Apachez: idk, do you have network manager running, can you just choose a network from the list?
[20:59] <maria__> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500]
[20:59] <Toxic_Burn> eut:do you have installed bluetooth applet?
[20:59] <airtonix> gp5st, what is your point ?
[20:59] <Jamed> gp5st: or i think there was some lib for 32bit programms in 64bit, never used it though
[20:59] <Apachez> Billiard: only encrypted nets shows up
[21:00] <Apachez> but using airodump-ng and kismet I see several unencrypted nets around
[21:00] <eut> Toxic_Burn, well.. i believe that its installed by default (always has been in the past)
[21:00] <gp5st> airtonix, i was explaining my prolem with the intel compilers hoping someone would have ha the problem and asolution, it wasn't directed at any one person
[21:00] <Billiard> Apachez: idk, ive never had that problem
[21:00] <eut> Toxic_Burn, any idea what the name of the executable is?
[21:00] <Apachez> ohh
[21:00] <maria__> Scunizi, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500]
[21:00] <Apachez> you are supposed to select WEP and leave the password field empty
[21:00] <Toxic_Burn> eut:bluetooth-applet
[21:00] <gp5st> jamed: it's just annoying this is all suppose to be supported:-\
[21:00] <Scunizi> maria__: if you've done all your update and there's no driver listed then it may be possible that your card isn't compatible with Xorg7.1 and ATI's changes in their driver.. they have left some cards in the proverbial dust.
[21:00] <r00t_> hi
[21:00] <r00t_> can help me?
[21:00] <gp5st> jamed: thanks though
[21:01] <eut> Toxic_Burn, guess i dont have it installed :o
[21:01] <Scunizi> maria__: google your card and ubuntu and see what others are saying about it.
[21:01] <eut> Toxic_Burn, thanks!
[21:01] <maria__> Scunizil, are you saying in need to buy a newer card?
[21:01] <Toxic_Burn> eut:do you know how to install it?
[21:01] <burzki> !ask | r00t_
[21:01] <done_`> what does this error refer to everytime i compile something: make[2]: *** No rule to make target `kernel/bounds.c', needed by `kernel/bounds.s'.  Stop.
[21:02] <Scunizi> maria__: no.. but you might need to.. depends on if ATI is supporting your card with xorg 7.1+
[21:02] <eut> Toxic_Burn, yes i know how to install things. however, i see that it is provided by both gnome-bluetooth and bluez-gnome, which to install?
[21:02] <maria__> k, ill look around
[21:02] <r00t_> ubottu
[21:02] <r00t_> only english?
[21:02] <Toxic_Burn> eut:i installed gnome-bluetooth and bluez-gnome...:D
[21:03] <burzki> r00t_, what's your language?
[21:03] <eut> Toxic_Burn, ok, thanks for the recommendations :]
[21:03] <r00t_> italian
[21:03] <burzki> r00t_, #ubuntu-it
[21:03] <r00t_> oh thanks
[21:03] <r00t_> ;)
[21:03] <Toxic_Burn> eut:nothing...if you need something else...feel free to ask!
[21:04] <eut> Toxic_Burn, ok, thanks very much. you've been quite helpful
[21:04] <Toxic_Burn> eut:hehe...ok
[21:04] <awfullyawesome> Where can I chnge my nickname
[21:04] <Jamed> gp5st: i just looked it up: the package linux32 is for 32bit support, but if you run hardy or newer it is already preinstalled, so if it doesnt work now, you can do nothing
[21:05] <dimitar> its me....toxic_burn
[21:05] <dimitar> :D
[21:05] <Jamed> alinuxfan: /nick <new_nickname>
[21:05] <Jamed> awfullyawesome: /nick <new_nickname>
[21:05] <Jamed> alinuxfan: sorry wrong nick
[21:05] <dimitar> eut:are you good in network...(its me *toxic_burn)...:D
[21:06] <eut> dimitar, good in network? not sure what you mean. do you have a specific question?
[21:06] <dimitar> eut:yes...ports and ip's?
[21:06] <mike3> i'm going to kill somebody. :) I keep gtting a update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-26-server when trying to install linux-server
[21:07] <eut> dimitar, yes, sure
[21:07] <frankely> hello, how can i remove an application installed by (configure, make, make install) way?
[21:07] <dimitar> eut:can i ask you on private chat room?
[21:07] <eut> dimitar, sure
[21:08] <dimitar> frankely:try synaptic package manager?what is the name of the program?
[21:08] <frankely> i installed amsn
[21:08] <frankely> but i compiled
[21:08] <synx> burzki: I have the desktop CD.
[21:09] <frankely> i download the tar.gz and follow the instructions of the install file, but now i want to remove it
[21:09] <Scunizi> !compile | frankely  this link may have into on doing that.. something like make uninstall
[21:09] <mike3> i'm going to kill somebody. :) I keep gtting a update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-26-server when trying to install linux-server
[21:10] <guntbert> frankely: it *should* come with a target uninstall too, so you cd into the same directory where you installed from and type make uninstall
[21:10] <eshat> Why are /dev/bus/usb/* owned by root and not by plugdev? Did I forget any package ?
[21:10] <frankely> let me see
[21:12] <technoviking> IS there a UNR meta package? I have to use the lpia alternative CD to install UNR on my netbook
[21:12] <MuSHRooM_> Hi
[21:12] <MuSHRooM_> Do you know a way I can run GNOME on Kubuntu?
[21:13] <bstmi> when I uninstall a program using sudo apt-get remove very less memory is freed as compared the memory it uses while installation( ubuntu 9.04 )..what's the reason?
[21:13] <lazydragoon> how we put a cedega shorcut on the desktop someone know ?
[21:14] <switch10_> bstmi: it is not installing the dependant packages
[21:14] <switch10_> *uninstalling
[21:14] <jelly-bean> isnt there a command to look up a machine's hostname on the local network?
[21:14] <jelly-bean> if you have its ip?
[21:14] <bstmi> thanks
[21:15] <eshat> Is /dev/bus/usb/* owned by plugdev group, anyone? I just don't understand why it is owned by root group on my box...
[21:15] <switch10_> bstmi: aptitude should do it.  Havent found a good way to get apt-get to do it properly
[21:15] <darksector> lazydragoon: go to applications and cadega option and right click cadega and add to desktop
[21:15] <Phil___> ubuntu doesn't want to let me display more than 640x400 resolution on one monitor.. any idea why?
[21:15] <switch10_> bstmi: which is kind of annoying
[21:15] <Billiard> eshat: i believe it depends on the type of device plugged in
[21:15] <done_`> i need to install linux-source so to compile ? thx
[21:16] <guntbert> !compile | done_`
[21:16] <eshat> Billiard: ahhh that may be true
[21:16] <done_`> guntbert when i compile give me : make[2]: *** No rule to make target `kernel/bounds.c', needed by `kernel/bounds.s'.  Stop. => does this mean need to install linux-source? thx
[21:18] <mogens> hi
[21:18] <mogens> I'm new to ubuntu and need help on this error :
[21:18] <Paddy_NI> !ask | mogens
[21:19] <mogens> How do i remove this error in wiithon "You can not access the partitions because the user who launched wiithon not belong to the group "disk". Showing the games of the last session." ???
[21:19] <mogens> I have tried to look into the group and user policies and too me it looks fine
[21:19] <guntbert> done_`: what are you trying to compile?
[21:20] <mogens> wiithon
[21:20] <done_`> guntbert ipp2p
[21:20] <mogens> it works without problems....
[21:20] <mogens> ups sorry
[21:20] <done_`> guntbert give me :  http://pastebin.com/m432723ea
[21:21] <newbie003> hi, I'm trying to have multiple history files in bash, Ive created a script to copy over the .bash_history file with a new file, next I perform the history -r command. This works when typing at the shell, however it fails when I put this in a script (no error just as the bash script exists I lose context *or something*)  Any ideas?
[21:21] <sint_> hey i have installed mpd and i am quite happy with it. but i have no other sounds left, when running it. how can i get the sound back?
[21:22] <mogens> ehm... did I not tell correct what the problem was ?
[21:22] <guntbert> done_`: not sure, but in xtables-addons-common there seems to be a program ipp2p - have a look at that
[21:22] <mogens> wiithon will not run due to permissions
[21:22] <Puto> is it possible to install ubuntu on a playstation 3 with a 64-bit userland?
[21:22] <xover> guys im having SAVAGE flash performance, whats the issue?
[21:23] <xover> Puto: what do you mean by 'userlamd'?
[21:23] <VCoolio> xover: flash being closed-source
[21:23] <brummbaer> puto: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_for_PlayStation_3#Ubuntu
[21:23] <done_`> guntbert how to check the  xtables-addons-common ?
[21:23] <xover> its dogturd performance, i cant even play 'slime volleyball' without losing frames
[21:23] <vasi_45m> kl
[21:23] <Puto> brummbaer: main libraries, GUI, etc... as 64-bit binaries
[21:24] <Puto> as opposed to a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit binaries like most ps3 linux distros seem to have
[21:24] <guntbert> !info xtables-addons-common | done_` (not sure if that is what you want though)
[21:24] <neur0tic> can someone tell me why synaptic wont download multiple files at once, and how do i enable this feature?
[21:24] <Puto> the wikipedia page doesn't state anything about whether the binaries are ppc64 or ppc32
[21:24] <Scunizi> Puto: the slim model doesn't support installing an alternate os... fyi
[21:24] <guntbert> done_`: install it, try the command you need,....
[21:24] <Puto> my PS3 isn't slim
[21:24] <mogens> none who got a clue what i can do to solve my problem ?
[21:25] <xover> Neurotic, you cannot, its a safety feature, so as not to fsck your system when installing dependant packages.
[21:25] <xover> mogens, wtbcm is wiithon?
[21:25] <neur0tic> xover: installation can be done later, downloading multiple files shudnt be a problem , i suppose
[21:26] <mogens> it is a program to run wbfs (wii) filesystem under linux / ubuntu
[21:26] <zleap> cool
[21:26] <sjefen6> how do I kill applications in ubuntu (with the shell)?
[21:26] <xover> do you have VSAT or something?
[21:26] <zleap> sjefen6, kill
[21:26] <Billiard> sjefen6 kill
[21:26] <zleap> or man kill for more info on kill
[21:26] <Scunizi> sjefen6: kill <pid number>
[21:26] <brummbaer> sjefen6 or pkill, or kill -9 if you're got the pid
[21:26] <mogens> neurotic : https://launchpad.net/wiithon
[21:27] <neur0tic> xover: i have a multihomed system , so its a real speedup if i use multiple downloads
[21:27] <mogens> xover : https://launchpad.net/wiithon
[21:27] <zleap> sjefen6, use in conjunction with ps -aux to get the pid of the program you want to kill
[21:27] <brummbaer> sjefen6: or easiest killall <app>
[21:27] <sjefen6> ok, thanks :D
[21:27] <zomGreg>  combine kill with pgrep: kill `pgrep firefox`
[21:27] <bstmi> sjefen6: type top to get pid ...then kill <pid>
[21:28] <neur0tic> any comments ?
[21:28] <aperson> zomGreg, pgreap firefox | xargs kill
[21:28] <aperson> pgrep*
[21:28] <Billiard> zomGreg: why do that when you have pkill
[21:28] <mogens> question : if i logged in as the user Mogens and started a terminal program... what permissions do i give a program which where the user should be member of the group disk ?
[21:28] <zomGreg> why do anything any way at all? because you can...
[21:28] <xover> neurotic what is multihoming?
[21:28] <Billiard> zomGreg: because thats more typing
[21:29] <neur0tic> xover: i have multiple internet connections, each with a separate ip. thats multihoming
[21:29] <Scunizi> xover: that's when you're from a split family and are standing in the middle of the street contemplating what direction to walk :)
[21:29] <WinfredNg> Hi,I want to use VPN on Ubuntu, Any idea? Thanks
[21:29] <aperson> is there a reasonable way to remove cups without breaking anything?
[21:29] <neur0tic> Scunizi: hahaha
[21:30] <Billiard> aperson: use the package manager?
[21:30] <aperson> Billiard, it also wants to remove a bunch of other things along with install another package
[21:30] <mogens> damn.... is there someone who would be nice to help on some for u simple permission problems... i have tried seberal times but can't find the error
[21:30] <daftykins> mogens don't ask to ask, just ask away
[21:30] <Billiard> mogens: whats the prob
[21:31] <Billiard> aperson: idk, removing using the package manager should be fine
[21:31] <xover> neurotic, are you saying you have two links on that system to the Internet?
[21:31] <aperson> Billiard, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/343823/
[21:31] <neur0tic> xover: yes, not 2, 10 links
[21:31] <mogens> billiard....
[21:32] <xover> you have ten network cards in one system?
[21:32] <mogens> wiithon says user need to be member of the group disk
[21:32] <mogens> and of what i can see the user is
[21:32] <Billiard> aperson: try apt-get remove --purge cups  ?
[21:32] <neur0tic> xover: no :P just 10 different ips on the same wire... u know what i mean ?
[21:32] <mogens> i installed wiithon with the following commands :
[21:32] <Billiard> mogens: type groups
[21:32] <Billiard> mogens: are you a member of disk
[21:33] <newbie003> hi, I'm trying to have multiple history files in bash, Ive created a script to copy over the .bash_history file with a new file, next I perform the history -r command. This works when typing at the shell, however it fails when I put this in a script (no error just as the bash script exists I lose context *or something*)  Any ideas?
[21:33] <xover> mogen: gpasswd -a username disk
[21:33] <newbie003> I need to execute outside of the subshell from within a subshell
[21:33] <xover> your using sub interfaces?
[21:33] <xover> neurotic
[21:33] <mogens> billiard : results of "groups" command : mogens adm dialout fax cdrom tape audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin netdev admin sambashare
[21:33] <lordneo> i'm stucked with wine, i can execute the game but it loads funny
[21:33] <lordneo> /media/B6AC5781AC573B57/Program Files/Gravity/RO
[21:33] <lordneo> asd
[21:33] <kfizz1> For some reason Banshee is scanning my entire home directory for media files even though I've only specified through the preferences to only use my Music directory for music and Videos directory for videos...any ideas?
[21:33] <lordneo> http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/LordNeoZ/screenshot.jpg
[21:34] <neur0tic> xover: i suppose u mean (eth0:1,eth0:2) by subinterfaces, YES
[21:34] <mogens> xover ?ehm.... ?
[21:34] <doomsword> hello
[21:34] <mogens> xover : error : gpasswd: user 'Mogens' does not exist
[21:34] <Billiard> mogens: sudo usermod -aG disk username
[21:34] <doomsword> can any1 help me with grub2?
[21:35] <Billiard> doomsword: what is the problem
[21:35] <h4f1> Firefox becomes soooo annoying . it freezes nearly on each page. any solution to that ?
[21:35] <Scunizi> !grub2 | doomsword
[21:35] <neur0tic> morgens: u should use ur own username
[21:35] <lordneo> need help to fix this http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/LordNeoZ/screenshot.jpg
[21:35] <mogens> billiard : gpasswd: user 'Mogens' does not exist
[21:35] <xover> mogens, if you need to be a member of a group use: gpasswd -a 'your username' 'the group you want to add'
[21:35] <kfizz1> h4fi, has this always happened or just recently?
[21:35] <Billiard> mogens: what?
[21:35] <doomsword> installed sabayon without installing new boot loader on sda2 , and have ubuntu on sda1, i run update-grub2, founds gentoo based os, but doesnt add in the menu
[21:35] <switch10_> h4f1: uninstall some plugins...
[21:35] <kfizz1> h4fi, it may be a bad extension, have you tried disabling extensions and seeing if Firefox still has issue
[21:35] <Billiard> mogens: i didnt tell you to use gpasswd, maybe your username is 'mogens'
[21:36] <mogens> billiard : usermod: user 'Mogens' does not exist
[21:36] <xover> neur0tic: why do you want to download more than one package?  I heard its some how related to ipv6 but missed the link about that
[21:37] <Billiard> mogens: it tells you in the prompt what your username is
[21:37] <mogens> system -> administrations -> users and groups ?
[21:37] <neur0tic> xover: i do not want to download more than 1 package, i want to simultaneously download the files in 'a' package, so that i get 32 * 10 = 320 KB/s instead of the current 32KB/s
[21:37] <Billiard> mogens: "whoami"
[21:37] <mogens> answer mogens
[21:37] <kfizz1> mogens 'echo $USER'
[21:37] <mogens> needs to be member of disk
[21:37] <Billiard> mogens: run the command i told you before to add yourself to the disk group
[21:38] <neur0tic> morgens: type morgens, not Morgens, its case sensitive
[21:38] <switch10_> h4f1: some of those plugins do more bad than good...  I personally don't use any
[21:38] <xover> neur0tic, what is your WAN link speed?
 i install xtables-addons-common, where i can modiy ipp2p?
[21:38] <done_`> modify*
[21:38] <neur0tic> xover: 100Mbps
[21:38] <mogens> billiard : sudo usermod -aG disk username ?
[21:38] <Billiard> mogens: yes
[21:38] <airtonix> neur0tic, i don;t think it is possible to make apt use multiple tcp threads
[21:38] <lesouvage> sudo tail -f /var/log/asterisk/messages | grep "Registration from 'IMSI" | <script to run> doesn't seem to work . The idea is that  "Registration from 'IMSI" is the trigger to run the script. Any suggestion?
[21:38] <neur0tic> xover: no, sorry its 32KB/s per IP
[21:39] <mogens> billiard : done
[21:39] <lordneo> please, i need help configuring wine (http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/LordNeoZ/screenshot.jpg)
[21:39] <kfizz1> For some reason Banshee is scanning my entire home directory for media files even though I've only specified through the preferences to only use my Music directory for music and Videos directory for videos...any ideas?
[21:39] <neur0tic> xover: my LAN link speed is 100mbps
[21:39] <Billiard> mogens: then type groups, and disk should be listed
[21:39] <guntbert> done_`: not sure - I only found the name to try it
[21:39] <xover> is your routing dishing out that 32k optimistion?
[21:39] <neur0tic> airtonix: any kind of override ?  i dont care if its manual
[21:39] <airtonix> neur0tic, short of creating your own apt-get ?
[21:39] <neur0tic> xover: i dont get you. please refreame
[21:39] <Segaja> hi, on older ubuntu version the startup splash screen had a progress bar, which showed how far the boot was. on ubuntu 9.10 i only see a black screen with a white ubuntu logo on it and the console box with the messages
[21:40] <kfizz1> neur0tic: this script might speed things up some: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=818619 It's a script called "apt-fast" and you use it just like apt-get, I used it back in the day whenever my internet connection was a lot slower
[21:40] <Segaja> is that black screen the normal ubuntu 9.10 boot screen?
[21:40] <airtonix> neur0tic, actually have a look at something called multiget
[21:40] <mogens> Billiard : mogens adm dialout fax cdrom tape audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin netdev admin sambashare
[21:40] <mogens> billiard : still the error in program
[21:40] <switch10_> Segaja: mine isn't black..
[21:40] <Billiard> mogens: sorry you have to log out and log back in
[21:40] <neur0tic> airtonix: ok, multiget, i'lll look that up, but does it blend with the very nice gui synaptic package manager /
[21:40] <airtonix> neur0tic, no idea
[21:40] <doomsword> whatever
[21:41] <xover> what is determining the link speed of 32Kbps?
[21:41] <neur0tic> kfizz1: ok checking that up
[21:41] <switch10_> Segaja: kind of a brown color
[21:41] <mogens> billiard : ... from the user or just from the terminal ?
[21:41] <VCoolio> Segaja: it is like you say, and it's not usplash anymore
[21:41] <mogens> or ?
[21:41] <Segaja> switch10_: my splash is just black with a white ubuntu logo
[21:41] <neur0tic> xover: my isp is determining the 32KB/s
[21:41] <Billiard> mogens: pretty sure user
[21:41] <mogens> or reboot ?
[21:41] <mezquitale> how do you share a folder with virtualbox using xp?
[21:41] <Billiard> mogens: just log out your user
[21:41] <mogens> ok ill be back
[21:41] <Segaja> switch10_: than what is wrong with mine?
[21:42] <switch10_> mezquitale: under settings in VBox
[21:42] <xover> why do you have 10 links from your ISP?
[21:42] <mezquitale> switch10_, do i have to share my folder in ubuntu?
[21:42] <switch10_> mezquitale: then in xp its under network..
[21:42] <Scunizi> mezquitale: share it in the os first then in Vbox under settings.
[21:42] <switch10_> mezquitale: nope
[21:42] <switch10_> Scunizi: i never had to
[21:43] <Scunizi> switch10_: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/UserManual.html#sharedfolders
[21:43] <mezquitale> Scunizi, I want to access a folder in the host(ubuntu), basically I want to use my files that are stored in my ubuntu machine from within virtualbox
[21:43] <switch10_> Scunizi: worked for me..
[21:43] <drunkpunk> any body offer any help getting usb tv-stick to play nice with karmic?
[21:43] <Scunizi> mezquitale: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/UserManual.html#sharedfolders
[21:43] <Billiard> drunkpunk: is your device supported?
[21:43] <neur0tic> xover: ahh well, im in my office, and i need that kind of speed. i have a proxy setup, which round-robins over the 10 links. my isp, does not give connections over 256kbps. so i had to buy 10 links to get 3.2mbps and setup a socks5 proxy (self written) to round robin over the ips
[21:44] <dasunsrule32> I need help, I am running karmic on a Dell Dimension 9150, I rebooted and now my PC will not boot. It has a nvidia 6800. It gets to the gdm screen, right after the white ubuntu logo. I cannot access recovery mode of teh hard drive. I can access through rescue mode from an alt install cd
[21:44] <drunkpunk> well, according to the packaging, it fo xp n vista
[21:44] <dasunsrule32> and help would be awesome!
[21:44] <Seven_Six_Two> How can I get the 10.04 alpha?
[21:44] <lordneo> please help me with this: http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/LordNeoZ/screenshot.jpg
[21:44] <mezquitale> switch10_, Scunizi im going to try it first switch10_ 's way, I remember I could do it without having to share my folder, there's an issue either with vista or winwdows7 where you have to share the folder in ubuntu first, let me try it out first
[21:44] <Billiard> drunkpunk: check http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/List_of_Device_Vendors
[21:44] <guntbert> !lucid | Seven_Six_Two
[21:45] <Seven_Six_Two> guntbert, thanks
[21:45] <guntbert> Seven_Six_Two: have fun :)
[21:45] <switch10_> mezquitale: I do it this way and it works fine.  I share my whole /home/dave/Music folder
[21:45] <Some_Person> My sound goes all weird in some games (like supertuxkart and supertux)
[21:45] <neur0tic> xover: so the thing is , as soon as i can tell synaptic to get 10 files at once, using a proxy, i get 10 times the speed. 1 file , means, just 1x speed.
[21:46] <switch10_> mezquitale: it is a little tricky to get find the folder in XP though
[21:46] <xover> neur0tic: sounds cool, so your saying that is application specific, i.e. if you did a wget you would get your 3.2meg?
[21:46] <scorpey_> and
[21:46] <drunkpunk> Billiard: cheers but no joy there :-( luckily was cheap
[21:46] <switch10_> mezquitale: go to start>Run type in explorer.  and your folder will be under network>vbox
[21:47] <neur0tic> xover: no, if  i did a wget, with 10 'segements' , i would get 3.2mbps
[21:47] <airtonix> neur0tic, actually you'll still download one file at the same speed (i also notice synaptics does apt-get update in tcp multithread mode but apt-get install in single thread mode) what you mean is that by multi threading your downloads you'll spend less time downloading your list of files overall
[21:48] <neur0tic> airtonix: Exactly !
[21:48] <mezquitale> switch10_, i dont believe you have to share the folder, i have another setup in my laptop and im not sharing the folder
[21:48] <switch10_> mezquitale: same here
[21:49] <airtonix> neur0tic, there is a firefox plugin i used to use to do a similar thing that actually did increase download speeds for one file due to the way properly configured servers would respond to multipart downloads, its called "downthemall"
[21:49] <neur0tic> airtonix:  i have that download manager , but then how do i integrate it with synaptic ? See thats the question, i want to make my upgradation faster.
[21:50] <mezquitale> switch10_, i found it, i dont have to create a network share in ubuntu, I can go into virtualbox itself and share it there, from there on once I boot into the virtual machine I can connect to it use net use command
[21:50] <lordneo> wich one is the spanish channel?
[21:50] <burzki> Seven_Six_Two, lucid IRC @ #ubuntu+1 -- coming to you from the alpha just fine ;-)
[21:50] <lordneo> #ubuntu-es
[21:51] <Scunizi> yest
[21:51] <Scunizi> *yea
[21:51] <airtonix> neur0tic, my maximum downspeed is 2.4mbps and my ISP mirrors the entire ubuntu repo... so its only one node a way from me at my max speed and all software installs come down at max speed....never had a need to do such a thing.
[21:51] <burzki> dasunsrule32, f10 doesn't get you a boot menu at startup?
[21:51] <neur0tic> airtonix: ur lucky. where do u stay ?
[21:52] <LinuxGuy2009>  Im wondering if I get an iPod Touch 3rd Generation if I can somehow use it on Debian without the need for itunes? Anyone have one and knows?
[21:52] <dasunsrule32> burzki
[21:52] <fcuk112> my machines are not appearing in Network though i can ping them.  only thing it shows is "Windows Network" which is empty.  i could see all my machines previously.  anybody know what's going on?
[21:52] <dasunsrule32> let me try
[21:52] <neur0tic> airtonix: my isp dosent know the 'L' of linux :P
[21:52] <LinuxGuy2009> In ubuntu I meant to say. sorry
[21:52] <airtonix> neur0tic, have you had a look at the apt-fast script yet? seems to be what ou want (except that it probably won't work with synaptics)
[21:52] <kiren> well thats convenient it picked this channel automatically
[21:52] <osasuna> momoooooooooooooomomomomomomomomomomomom
[21:52] <dasunsrule32> burzki: i get the grub menu fine
[21:52] <Scunizi> kiren: welcome.. please deposit $1 in paypal for continued support
[21:53] <osasuna> fine yo si k stoy fine
[21:53] <neur0tic> airtonix: i am taking a look, just that i was looking for a more 'native' way.. i mean, synaptics is a great package manager, it should be configurable
[21:53] <osasuna> az<saxdf
[21:53] <xover> neut0tic: waht country are you from?
[21:53] <dasunsrule32> burzki: my problem, is it hanges when trying to boot, just past the white logo and also recovery mode
[21:54] <neur0tic> xover: suburbs of mumbai, india :)
[21:54] <dasunsrule32> burzki: i suspect it is the nvida drivers, however, i can't do anything
[21:54] <dasunsrule32> to verify
[21:54] <burzki> LinuxGuy2009, not to my knowledge.  ;-(
[21:54] <kiren> so I haven't really used linux since they started using X.org.... where do you edit the xconfig now?
[21:55] <burzki> dasunsrule32, is this a new install?
[21:55] <Scunizi> kiren: trying to get better resolution?
[21:55] <xover> i hope you fix your problem.
[21:55] <dasunsrule32> burzki: no
[21:55] <fcuk112> kiren: you mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[21:55] <aperson> kiren, xorg.conf
[21:55] <kiren> yep, only shows up to 1164x852
[21:56] <burzki> dasunsrule32, just out of the blue??
[21:56] <kiren> though its a 1600x1200 LCD
[21:56] <Scunizi> kiren: fcuk112 aperson in 9.04+ xrandr controls the display.. xorg.conf is essentially blank
[21:56] <LinuxGuy2009> burzki: You dont happen to know what the whole SSH stuff is for with the iPod Touchs do you? I have no clue what SSH is even for.
[21:56] <aperson> kiren, it isn't there by default, but if you create it, the changes made there will be respected
[21:56] <dasunsrule32> burzki: the only changes, were installing vmware yesterday, and reinstalling my nvidia-glx-185 drivers
[21:56] <aperson> Scunizi, I realize this
[21:56] <Segaja> my boot screen just looks like this: http://cdn.cbsi.com.au/story_media/339299234/ubuntu-910-karmic-koala_1.jpg and at the bottom are the messages scralling by because i have removed the quit statement from the bootline
[21:56] <Segaja> is that the normal ubuntu boot screen?
[21:56] <Scunizi> kiren: what kind of card do you have?
[21:56] <kiren> radeon x300
[21:56] <fcuk112> my machines are not appearing in Network though i can ping them.  only thing it shows is "Windows Network" which is empty.  i could see all my machines previously.  anybody know what's going on?  this is happening now on 2 ubuntu 9.10 machines.
[21:56] <dasunsrule32> burzki: my network connections dropped, and i restarted teh services, but i coulnt connect
[21:57] <kiren> whats xrandr?
[21:57] <neur0tic> airtonix: apt-fast seems, good, but will apt-get honour system proxy settings ?
[21:57] <dasunsrule32> burzki: so i restarted the pc, came up and the nvidia drivers were not working
[21:57] <aperson> Segaja, that's the grub screen
[21:57] <Scunizi> kiren: do all your updates then look in System>Admin>Hardware drivers for a driver to activate.. if it's not there then check if ATI is supporting your card with xorg7.1+
[21:57] <airtonix> neur0tic, i can;t remember ( ithink it does)
[21:57] <neur0tic> airtonix: because it uses multiple apt-gets internally
[21:57] <zleap> kiren, man xrandr
[21:57] <neur0tic> aitronix: worth a try !
[21:57] <ctmjr> !info xrandr | kiren
[21:58] <Scunizi> !xrandr | kiren
[21:58] <burzki> dasunsrule32, ah.  can you get to a teminal line?
[21:58] <dasunsrule32> burzki: i reinstalled teh nvidia-glx185 drivers, and then rebooted, not i can't boot to gnome and cannot acess recovery mode
[21:58] <aperson> neur0tic, it will honor proxy settings
[21:58] <aperson> neur0tic, at least apt-get does afaik
[21:58] <Scunizi> kiren: but it also controls resolution
[21:58] <dasunsrule32> burzki: i cannot
[21:58] <kiren> ah
[21:58] <neur0tic> aperson: ahh great, trying it out now :)
[21:58] <dasunsrule32> burzki: only via rescue mode on teh alt install cd
[21:58] <Scunizi> dasunsrule32: did you install the binary from nvidia or the one from the repos?
[21:58] <burzki> dasunsrule32, ok.  sorry, it's probably beyond me then .. ;-|
[21:59] <dasunsrule32> Scunizi: the rrpos
[21:59] <Segaja> aperson: woot? that is after the grub and if i remove the splash keyword from the boot line it is gone. so that makes it clearly ubunu to me
[21:59] <dasunsrule32> i need my PC for HUGE orject tomorrow too
[21:59] <dasunsrule32> :-(
[21:59] <kiren> well x300 is dropped from the newest ati driver I know, but I had the same problem using an nvidia 7xxx card, which was supported and using the drivers. giving the article a look
[22:00] <Scunizi> dasunsrule32: that's weird... that shouldn''t have happened.. can you get to a command line prompt?
[22:00] <dasunsrule32> Scunizi: only via rescue mode
[22:00] <Scunizi> dasunsrule32: from there you might try ... sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[22:00] <dasunsrule32> Scunizi: it hangs in recovery mode
[22:00] <jcdutton> dasunsrule32, do you need 3D features, or just 2D ?
[22:00] <dasunsrule32> i just need it running
[22:00] <dasunsrule32> lol
[22:00] <dasunsrule32> let me boot to rescue mode
[22:01] <dasunsrule32> on the alt install cd
[22:01] <jcdutton> dasunsrule32, try using the nv driver instead of the nvidia driver
[22:01] <dasunsrule32> it's not that simple
[22:01] <burzki> LinuxGuy2009, do not.  i think ssh is for accessing jailbroken phones .. some linux apps can get photos and other apps off the Touch, but no music.  others can get music off old ipods, but not the touch.  maybe scour the forums for more ..
[22:01] <dasunsrule32> I can't access the internet
[22:01] <dasunsrule32> rescue mode doesn't have inet
[22:01] <boscop_> how can I execute a cmd without putting it into bash history?
[22:01] <jcdutton> dasunsrule32, why do you need resue mode?
[22:02] <dragon> !macbook
[22:02] <dasunsrule32> jcdutton: it hangs in recovery mode
[22:02] <jcdutton> dasunsrule32, can you boot to single user mode?
[22:02] <dasunsrule32> how
[22:02] <dasunsrule32> ?
[22:02] <dasunsrule32> can i force it?
[22:03] <dasunsrule32> i have full access to the grub shell at the beginning
[22:03] <jcdutton> can you get into grub. You just need to add an option that has the word "single" in the linux line
[22:04] <dasunsrule32> jcdutton: i used the kernel option of single
[22:04] <dasunsrule32> jcdutton: it's not hanging this time
[22:04] <jcdutton> dasunsrule32, so you can get to a root command prompt ?
[22:04] <dasunsrule32> finally
[22:05] <jcdutton> dasunsrule32, are you using ethernet cables or wireless.
[22:05] <dasunsrule32> jcdutton: i am at ctl-d
[22:05] <dasunsrule32> ether
[22:05] <dasunsrule32> eth0
[22:05] <burzki> jcdutton, thx w/ dasunsrule32
[22:05] <dasunsrule32> i tried all this earlier and it wouldn't work
[22:05] <dasunsrule32> sigh
[22:05] <jcdutton> dasunsrule32, is it asking for a password? or are you at the prompt now
[22:05] <dasunsrule32> i entered teh password and am at a shell
[22:06] <jcdutton> dasunsrule32, run "dhclient3"
[22:06] <tbh__> leave
[22:06] <dasunsrule32> i have an ip address
[22:06] <jcdutton> dasunsrule32, that should get you an IP address and get you on the internet
[22:06] <jcdutton> dasunsrule32, do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file ?
[22:07] <dasunsrule32> let me look
[22:07] <dasunsrule32> yes
[22:07] <q_> .
[22:07] <dasunsrule32> jcdutton: it is using the Xinerama
[22:07] <jcdutton> dasunsrule32, make a backup of that file. Then edit it, and look for "nvidia" and replace it with "nv"
[22:08] <sj4m35-15> sup?
[22:08] <aperson> !hi | sj4m35-15
[22:08] <occy> hey guys... not sure if anyone is here or not... that had the slow background setting thing.
[22:08] <sebsebseb> hi
[22:08] <dasunsrule32> jcdutton: done
[22:08] <dragon> !anyone | occy
[22:08] <dasunsrule32> reboot?
[22:09] <jcdutton> not yet
[22:09] <epoxy|werk> how to get video in lynx?
[22:09] <jcdutton> aptitude search xserver-xorg-video-nv
[22:09] <occy> But when I just re-re-installed...  I did something different.  I apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade  _BEFORE_ I installed my nvidia drivers and WIN!
[22:09] <jcdutton> does it say I or P next to it?
[22:09] <occy> I no longer have that problem.
[22:09] <sebsebseb> epoxy|werk: Lucid Lynx, or the text browser Lynx?
[22:09] <dasunsrule32> jcdutton: for some reason it has other versions of the nvidia driver installed
[22:09] <occy> Not sure who all had the issue, but I'm sure it may go a long way toward helping those who have that bug.
[22:09] <occy> :D
[22:10] <sj4m35-15> epoxy|werk: have you tried VLC?
[22:10] <boscop_> how can I execute a cmd without putting it into bash history?
[22:10] <jcdutton> dasunsrule32, aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-nv
[22:10] <occy> dragon: wait for it before spamming the macros ;)
[22:10] <dasunsrule32> i am reinstalling the nvidia drivers, after clearing all the others
[22:11] <mrabti> hello I've installed ubuntu on my Acer Aspire One and when  I shut it down and start It it's stuck on Grub
[22:11] <jcdutton> dasunsrule32, do you mean the nvidia drivers, or the nv drivers?
[22:11] <mrabti> To get to ubuntu i must Force it and start it again
[22:11] <dasunsrule32> I use dual moitors
[22:11] <mrabti> Who can help Me
[22:11] <dasunsrule32> the vnvidia
[22:11] <dragon> occy: I've no clue what you're talking about in your messages. Your use of Enter key as punctuation is making your text qualify as spam.
[22:11] <jcdutton> dasunsrule32, nv should be able to handle that
[22:11] <boscop_> sometimes vlc or opera allocate all the ram choking my system. how can I automatically kill the app that has allocated the most space when the overall ram usage exceeds a certain point?? is it possible to set global RAM limits with ulimit?
[22:12] <dasunsrule32> jcdutton: what is it to clear the apt cache?
[22:12] <occy> Dragon I was simply trying to help.  Perhaps it's my pathetic public education... but whatever, Sorry for bothering you.
[22:12] <jcdutton> dasunsrule32, at least get the nv driver working, for recovery reasons
[22:12] <dasunsrule32> ok
[22:12] <jcdutton> dasunsrule32, aptitude autoclean
[22:13] <dasunsrule32> got it
[22:13] <dasunsrule32> ;-)
[22:13] <dasunsrule32> i remembered
[22:13] <dasunsrule32> lol
[22:13] <FloodBot4> dasunsrule32: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:13] <epaphus> Anybody can help me undestand what the use of LVM is in ubuntu??
[22:13] <jcdutton> epaphus, it is a logical volume manager
[22:14] <epaphus> right, but that doesnt say much :)
[22:14] <jcdutton> epaphus, google for what is lvm
[22:14] <freaky[t]_> hi all. how do i restore grub with karmic when windows overwrote mbr?
[22:14] <guntbert> epaphus: the same as in every other OS - but that is no ubuntu-support question
[22:14] <epaphus> oh, all OSs use LVM?
[22:14] <epaphus> ok sorry
[22:14] <Scunizi> !grub2 | freaky[t]_
[22:15] <freaky[t]_> Scunizi thanky ou
[22:15] <TheQ> grub2 ... what a joke. it's actually 1.97 ^^
[22:16] <guntbert> epaphus: no, sorry - not all OSes use it, but many, and the use is the same everywhere
[22:16] <christine_> hello!
[22:17] <neur0tic> airtonix: hey apt-fast works ! I had to hack around a little, modify the script, but now it works like a charm ! Thanks for all the help
[22:17] <guntbert> epaphus: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=141900
[22:17] <CVirus> Where is the file for the remote desktop configuration saved ?
[22:17] <burzki> freaky[t]_, maybe useful as well, http://grub.enbug.org/Manual
[22:18] <neur0tic> airtonix: now , only if i could make the whole thing work with the synaptic package manager gui !
[22:19] <epaphus> ok thanks.. anybody know the link towards usign the alternate cd to encrypt the filesystem?
[22:19] <sj4m35-15> airtonix: whats apt-fast???
[22:19] <burzki> !hello | christine
[22:19] <Shishire> I can't view my Configure Command on php with phpinfo().  Ubuntu 8.10 server, apt-get install php5
[22:19] <Typh_> anyone know if there's anyway to manage panels without using the mouse and hoping for the best?
[22:20] <sergi> alguno abla mi idioma?
[22:20] <Some_Person> I'm trying to use the Line In/External Mic on my laptop but ubuntu won't detect it
[22:20] <guntbert> !pt | sergi
[22:21] <done_`> anyone has tried to install ipp2p ?  thx
[22:21] <sergi> how is ubuntu 9.10??? its cool?
[22:21] <epaphus> ok thanks.. anybody know the link towards usign the alternate cd to encrypt the filesystem?
[22:22] <t0rc> sergi, it's good but a bit buggy still. If you're on 9.04 I wouldn't bother upgrading.
[22:22] <sj4m35-15> sergi: it's cool, matter of fact i'm using it now.
[22:22] <sergi> i want to istall linux but i have dudes if i must install devian or ubuntu
[22:22] <sj4m35-15> t0rc: what's buggy about it?
[22:22] <burzki> sergi, if it aint broke dont fix it
[22:23] <Some_Person> Ubuntu won't detect line in/external microphone
[22:23] <sj4m35-15> burzki: if it isn't broken do not fix it.
[22:23] <sergi> check the drivers
[22:23] <burzki> sj4m35-15, read around .. loads of folks having issues
[22:23] <done_`> can anyone help me with this : http://pastebin.com/m5535b19e ?
[22:23] <epinky> sergi: devian, is that a new distro?
[22:23] <sj4m35-15> burzki: what exactly are the issues?
[22:24] <sj4m35-15> burzki: name one...
[22:24] <burzki> sj4m35-15, not the effing grammar channel.  all ot
[22:24] <sj4m35-15> burzki: just jking :-P
[22:24] <sergi> i think new is not the word XD
[22:25] <burzki> sj4m35-15, good enough ;-)
[22:25] <epinky> sergi: maybe a new Debian based distro?
[22:25] <burzki> sj4m35-15, from what i hear, many folks having grub issues, nvidia
[22:26] <sergi> o i must write debian
[22:26] <epinky> XD
[22:26] <Shishire> epinky: it's the latest super-villian debian clone.  It's designed to work perfectly until superheroes come along, and then it shuts itself down, taking security with it.
[22:27] <digitalaxis> Hello
[22:27] <BioShock^> hi
[22:27] <digitalaxis> Is this the support channel?
[22:27] <BioShock^> http://radio2.zapto.org:8000/listen.pls
[22:27] <Alan502> !ask | digitalaxis
[22:27] <sergi> well... it will be...
[22:27] <ardchoille> !ot
[22:27] <itamarjp> digitalaxis: ask,
[22:27] <digitalaxis> alan502, i was simply making sure this was the correct place to ask.
[22:28] <dasunsrule32> jcdutton: thank you
[22:28] <dasunsrule32> I got it
[22:28] <plouffe> I loaded empathy once, set up an account, next times I start it loads, logs in the user, but there is no GUI anywhere.
[22:28] <t0rc> sj4m35-15, multiple things. SPDIF output, gnome-do freezes X11 on boot randomly (seems to be related to compiz), Bluez is somewhat broken, you cannot configure themes for login screens, etc. as easily as before, networking does not correctly route requests when you have two cables plugged in (one LAN, one internet), etc.
[22:28] <digitalaxis> I have a couple questions, firstly: How do i know what architecture of "Cabextract" to download?
[22:28] <sj4m35-15> digitalaxis: what is your question?
[22:28] <plouffe> I keep killing it in system monitor, but every time, it loads without a GUI now
[22:28] <dasunsrule32> jcdutton: it had the nv driver loading while it was passing all the nvidia arguments
[22:29] <jcdutton> done_`, why would you want that?
[22:29] <digitalaxis> sj4m35-15: http://packages.debian.org/sid/cabextract is the page with the options
[22:29] <jcdutton> dasunsrule32, So, you have X back again?
[22:29] <sergi> i have a dude? is this the frikipedia??? or is a standart chat?
[22:29] <t0rc> plouffe, did you click on the envelope at the top right and click on Empathy?
[22:29] <burzki> dasunsrule32, great
[22:29] <sergi> with multiple channels
[22:29] <dasunsrule32> i am fully running agin
[22:29] <plouffe> I clicked on the envelope but no empathy there
[22:29] <dasunsrule32> i ave not installed any additional drivers
[22:30] <Edxato> #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:30] <jcdutton> dasunsrule32, Is it now using nv or nvidia drivers?
[22:30] <Shishire> I can't view my Configure Command on php with phpinfo().  Ubuntu 8.10 server," apt-get install php5  " PHP 5.2.6-2ubuntu4.2 with Suhosin-Patch <IP_ADDRESS> (cli) (built: Apr 17 2009 14:44:11)
[22:30] <dasunsrule32> yet there were 73, 96, loaded too
[22:30] <dasunsrule32> nvidia
[22:30] <plouffe> also clicked on the username things and the pidgin icon
[22:30] <digitalaxis> Does anyone know how to get "VENTRILO" working on ubuntu 9.10?
[22:30] <dasunsrule32> i removed all the exisiting drivers, cleared apt's cache
[22:30] <dasunsrule32> and reinstalled the nvidia 185
[22:30] <dasunsrule32> corrected the xorg.conf
[22:30] <dasunsrule32> rebooted and im in
[22:30] <dasunsrule32> sigh
[22:30] <dasunsrule32> thanks
[22:30] <t0rc> digitalaxis, yes. Either install it in wine (look at appdb.winehq.com or download Mangler (www.mangler.org))
[22:30] <FloodBot4> dasunsrule32: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:31] <jcdutton> dasunsrule32, happy to help
[22:31] <digitalaxis> I heard if i download it in wine it wont work
[22:31] <dasunsrule32> shutp FloodBot4, i am excited here
[22:31] <dasunsrule32> lol
[22:31] <burzki> lol
[22:32] <digitalaxis> But i will try. How do i install something "IN" wine. I dont quite get it. I have WINE installed, but like what directory should i install windows files too for it to work
[22:32] <lawrence> help
[22:32] <lawrence> !help
[22:32] <Typh_> anyone know if there's anyway to manage panels without using the mouse?
[22:32] <t0rc> digitalaxis, I'm using it on my laptop and my desktop - which has an X-Fi, the royal pain of soundcards for ubuntu, and they both work.
[22:32] <trism> digitalaxis: you generally just run wine name_of_installer.exe, and if you install to the c:\ drive, it will install to ~/.wine/drive_c
[22:33] <t0rc> digitalaxis, just download and install mangler
[22:33] <t0rc> digitalaxis, its in early versions but PTT and such work fine and you can join ventrilo servers.
[22:33] <TheJeffsta> Can someone try help me get Quake 3 to have sound, looked on Google but still haven't got it
[22:33] <lawrence> quit
[22:33] <digitalaxis> t0rc: Is there a way for you to private chat me in IRC?
[22:33] <t0rc> digitalaxis, it'll avoid your need for dealing with wine and copying over files from windows and you can still talk to friends, etc. Plus the dev team is quite active.
[22:34] <t0rc> digitalaxis, yeah i sent you a PM.
[22:34] <tenach> :o
[22:34] <dragon> FloodBots, you're flooding the channel.
[22:34] <t0rc> mwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahaha
[22:34] <dragon> not cool, FloodBots
[22:35] <wgrant> dragon: It's a netsplit. Not the FloodBots' fault.
[22:35] <switch10_> why does that happen every so often?
[22:36] <jcdutton> switch10_, It means one of the irc server failed
[22:36] <wgrant> switch10_: freenode has been suffering from a DDOS lately.
[22:36] <wgrant> So it's happening much more often than usual.
[22:36] <switch10_> oh
[22:36] <Shishire> they need to fix pratchett.freenode.net.  It keeps dropping :(
[22:36] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[22:37] <dragon> FloodBot1: can I speak now?
[22:37] <dragon> any way, coming to the point
[22:37] <dragon> how do I ensure that a service always runs at system startup?  I have this karmic server with apache. I never turned the service off or anything, but I have to run it manually after every reboot.
[22:38] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[22:38] <epinky> dragon: apache must be started by default at bootime
[22:38] <Nicekiwi9> hi?
[22:39] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[22:39] <Nicekiwi9> Dell Vostro 1510, Fresh install of Ubuntu 9.10 and on first and every boot they onboard touchpad and keyboard fail to work, help?
[22:39] <epinky> !ping
[22:39] <epinky> fiuf
[22:39] <Nicekiwi9> lol
[22:39] <done_`> can anyone help me with this : http://pastebin.com/m5535b19e ?
[22:39] <dragon> epinky: yes, I believe it's a bug. Ideas?
[22:40] <switch10_> Nicekiwi9: did they work with the live cd?
[22:40] <Nicekiwi9> no
[22:40] <Nicekiwi9> opps, how do u do that reply to username thing?
[22:40] <burzki> Nicekiwi9, did they work after the install?
[22:40] <epinky> Dragon: is there something unusual on /var/log/messages or apache's error log?
[22:40] <rapha> I need help with a graphics tablet ... all the howto's are for older Ubuntu versions - how do you get a Wacom tablet to work with 9.10 where there is no xorg.conf?
[22:40] <subito> hi, is there a way to delete the images from a pdf?
[22:40] <Nicekiwi9> nop
[22:40] <Nicekiwi9> nope
[22:41] <rapha> subito: yes, with Adobe Acrobat Writer
[22:41] <burzki> Nicekiwi9, were you able to run an update after then install?
[22:41] <Scunizi> subito: or perhaps with PDFEdit .. it's in the repos
[22:41] <dragon> epinky: I'll check. It's strange that apache starts with no errors when I do `service apache start`
[22:41] <Nicekiwi9> i can only use the lappy with a external USB keyboard and external USB mouse
[22:41] <baz> is there a way to remove that big black network port icon? I am on a wired connection and never need to play with it
[22:41] <Nicekiwi9> yes, fully updated, no change
[22:41] <subito> rapha: Scunizi: i need something command-line based to do that for a thousand of files
[22:42] <Scunizi> subito: PDFEdit has cli capability
[22:42] <Scunizi> if you can figure it out
[22:42] <darthanubis> is there any way to increase samba browsing reliability
[22:42] <switch10_> Nicekiwi9: it was a fresh install?
[22:42] <Nicekiwi9> yes
[22:42] <rapha> I need help with a graphics tablet ... all the howto's are for older Ubuntu versions - how do you get a Wacom tablet to work with 9.10 where there is no xorg.conf?
[22:42] <darthanubis> well specifically nautilus's samba broswing
[22:43] <alleykat> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[22:43] <alleykat> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[22:43] <Nicekiwi9> switch10_: ohhh thats how u do it xD
[22:43] <alleykat> when I do that it says I must run dpkg --help
[22:44] <switch10_> Nicekiwi9: here is the fix.  4th post down..  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=953995
[22:44] <darthanubis> If I shut all the pcs down and reboot them the network is browseable, but who wants to keep doing that?
[22:44] <dragon> epinky: yes, some errors in apache's error log. I wonder why I'm able to start it manually.
[22:44] <alleykat> whats the command for a complete diskcheck & repair?
[22:45] <Nicekiwi9> yes i saw that fix on the forums b4 i can here, how ever the file menu.lst dose not exist for me :(
[22:45] <subito> Scunizi: then how can i delete the image using pdfedit?
[22:45] <epinky> dragon: if there's any error apache won't start at boot time, resolve all issues first
[22:46] <dragon> epinky: roger that
[22:46] <Scunizi> subito: I never really got into the cli part of the program.. it's listed on sourceforge.net .. there may be doc there or a link to the main site for the docs
[22:46] <Nicekiwi9> switch10_: yes i saw that fix on the forums b4 i can here, how ever the file menu.lst dose not exist for me :(
[22:46] <switch10_> Nicekiwi9: on sec..  u from NZ?
[22:47] <switch10_> one*
[22:47] <Nicekiwi9> switch10_: yes
[22:47] <switch10_> Nicekiwi9: I lived there for about 7 months :)
[22:47] <Nicekiwi9> lo
[22:47] <Nicekiwi9> switch10_: nice lol, what city?
[22:47] <switch10_> taihape :)
[22:48] <switch10_> pretty little
[22:48] <Nicekiwi9> ha sweet =)
[22:48]  * Nicekiwi9 does a quick lil google map lookup :P
[22:49] <dragon> !ot
[22:49] <alleykat> Nicekiwi9, http://pastebin.org/66533 is an example (/boot/grub/)
[22:49] <Nicekiwi9> switch10_: ah the north island :P not where i thought, havent been to the north very much, looks pretty tho =)
[22:49] <alleykat> its a dualboot with win, but I think you'll get the idea
[22:50] <mMezquitale> anyone knows if you can hot plug USB devices into virtual box with xp as the guest OS?
[22:50] <alleykat> whats the command for a complete diskcheck & repair?
[22:50] <alleykat> ext4
[22:50] <subito> Scunizi: i've looked there http://pdfedit.petricek.net/en/documentation.html into User doc and Scripting API and looked at all the lines containing 'image' but none of them seems to be for removing all the images of a page
[22:50] <Nicekiwi9> alleykat: is that a dump of ur menu.lst?
[22:51] <alleykat> yup
[22:51] <alleykat> pretty much anyway, a copy I made a month ago
[22:51] <subito> Scunizi: maybe i said it wrong, i don't want to extract the images and save them, i want to remove them to obtain a new pdf file
[22:52] <alleykat> right now, when I boot up in ubuntu I get a load of I/O errors
[22:52] <Scunizi> subito: perhaps going the other direction.. extract the text and create a new pdf
[22:52] <alleykat> ..it does start but can't even run an update
[22:52] <Nicekiwi9> alleykat: how much of this will i need to change? as its for a dif kernel ans OS version than mine?
[22:52] <subito> Scunizi: hm ...
[22:53] <burzki> Nicekiwi9, did you check the last several post on the forum link? and the grub2 page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[22:53] <alleykat> change default to 1
[22:53] <alleykat> then line 133-139 I think :)
[22:53] <subito> Scunizi: but i'll still need exactly the same pdf file than the original one without the image, now if i search for 'extracting text pdf' in google i only find pdf to text converters
[22:54] <alleykat> whats the command for a complete diskcheck & repair?
[22:54] <Scunizi> subito: I would think pdfedit would also be able to do it.
[22:54] <epinky> alleykat: "fsck -fyv /dev/sdX" or use gparted check,  maybe you'll have to run that from LiveCD
[22:55] <Scunizi> subito: also you might look at postscript tools.. (just hunting for possibilities here.
[22:55] <subito> Scunizi: and should I look in User doc or Scripting API ?
[22:55] <Scunizi> subito: your choice.. I don't know
[22:56] <g0tcha> hey guys, can anyone help me install vmware vm tools in my ubuntu?
[22:56] <dragon> !anyone | g0tcha
[22:56] <alleykat> seems like it... only change I've made is booting up with my ext hdd attached :/
[22:57] <subito> i thought there would already some simple cli program like pdfstripimages and i would just had to call pdfstripimages myfile.pdf :D
[22:57] <n0dl> if I split a tar up could I still do incremental backups on the slices?
[22:57] <g0tcha> dragon, second part is the question
[22:57] <rephorm> I have a checkout branch of bzr tree from launchpad. How can I figure out which revision number corresponds to the currently released ubuntu package?
[22:57] <dragon> !details | g0tcha
[22:58] <Shishire> g0tcha: it means what part of the install are you having trouble with?
[22:58] <g0tcha> that makes more sense
[22:58] <g0tcha> i mean the second msg from ubottu
[22:58] <g0tcha> anyway,
[22:58] <systest> what replaced hcid in 9.10?
[22:58] <g0tcha> i have ubuntu 9.04 installed on vmware server 6.5
[22:59] <g0tcha> ive tried to install vmtools like the guide says but it doesnt work
[22:59] <dragon> !enter > g0tcha
[22:59] <switch10_> gotcha:  you mounted the ISO?
[22:59] <looter> if i have a program that is just extracted as a folder and can be run from anywhere where would I put this folder so that it woudl reside with my other programs and how would i make a shortcut for it?
[23:00] <Shishire> looter, generally, you don't put it with the rest of your programs, as they're in a protected part of the system.  Put it in a folder in ~/, and create a link on the desktop
[23:00] <Dougdoug4> Ok so it's like this.. Ubuntu Update Manager was bugging me to install like 164 updates
[23:00] <Dougdoug4> so i did
[23:00] <g0tcha> switch10_, yes i did
[23:01] <Dougdoug4> then it prompted me to reboot, which i did, but i walked away, and when i came back, vista was starting up, this has never happened before (I dual boot btw vista/ubuntu)
[23:01] <Dougdoug4> so i went ahead and did a little vista stuff
[23:01] <Dougdoug4> before restarting and going back to ubuntu
[23:01] <looter> Shishire, could you explain what you mean by a folder in ~/   ?  Is that in my home folder?  (as you can tell i'm still fairly new to the linux file system structure)
[23:01] <Dougdoug4> but when I go back, right after I select "Boot from first hard disk" and pick "UbuntU'
[23:01] <Dougdoug4> it loads some thing called the GNU GRUB manager?
[23:01] <Dougdoug4> and it won't load my ubuntu :\
[23:02] <geirha> looter: If the program is contained all in one folder, then it should be in /opt if you want it available for all users. If only you need to use it, put it in ~/ (your homefolder)
[23:02] <Shishire> ^^
[23:02] <switch10_> gotcha: what wont worK?
[23:02] <looter> ahh
[23:02] <Alan502> Dougdoug4, try to take your cd off the drive
[23:02] <Alan502> Dougdoug4, and reebot
[23:03] <Dougdoug4> i did
[23:03] <looter> geirha, I followed a tutorial taht explained to put it in /usr/local and then add a script to /usr/local/bin to be able to start the prog with a shorrtcut but I kept getting persmissionss errors.
[23:03] <Dougdoug4> it ran GNU Grub
[23:03] <Dougdoug4> beta version
[23:04] <rephorm> Is there an ubuntu developer channel?
[23:04] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: ok
[23:04] <Dougdoug4> Alan502 did my Ubuntu get overritten or something?
[23:04] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: are you seeing the menu with Ubuntu or not?
[23:04] <Dougdoug4> i see the windows boot manager
[23:04] <Dougdoug4> I select Ubuntu
[23:04] <Linera> Hello
[23:04] <Dougdoug4> then it heads straigth to GNU GRUB
[23:04] <geirha> looter: Normally, programs in linux are divided "all over" the filesystems. The documentation files are put in /usr/share/doc, libraries it uses in /usr/lib, the executables in /usr/bin. But if the program does not follow that standard, Then it should go in /opt/
[23:05] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: you did Wubi?
[23:05] <Dougdoug4> yes
[23:05] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: ok that explains it
[23:05] <Dougdoug4> so what be the officer problem?
[23:05] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: not sure exactly, but Wubi is not good in the long run, ok for trying, but not good in the long run.  in the long run real partitions are better, and you can convert a Wubi install into a real partition.
[23:06] <mMezquitale> im not as think as you drunk I am!
[23:06] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: are you in Vista now?
[23:06] <Dougdoug4> oh no
[23:06] <Linera> I'm new to linux. I'm running linux Ubuntu 9.10 on a laptop with low ram. How can I tweak the os to run on the bare basics?
[23:06] <Dougdoug4> i'm using another computer
[23:06] <dragon> !xubuntu | Linera
[23:06] <geirha> looter: Do you have a link to that tutorial? and a link to the app in question may be helpful too
[23:06] <dragon> Linera: you'll need to run Xubuntu version for low RAM usage and all.
[23:06] <lesouvage> Can somebody please tell me why tail -f /var/log/asterisk/messages | grep "Registration from" |./test.sh   isn't working. The script at the end is working fine.
[23:06] <Flare183> !netsplit
[23:07] <Linera> I'm already running linux on this laptop
[23:07] <looter> geirha, http://www.fretsonfire.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25027
[23:07] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: load up Vista, and see if  Wubi is still  in the programs and features list or not,  I assume it is, but worth a quick check
[23:07] <mMezquitale> Linera, just inxtall xfce
[23:07] <Linera> huh?
[23:07] <Linera> xfce?
[23:07] <mMezquitale> Linera, they speak the same language
[23:07] <Flare183> !xfce4 | Linera
[23:07] <subito> hello, i would like to convert a pdf file to a tiff file without the original images of the pdf file (yes that's weird) Is there an easy way to do that?
[23:07] <ago_> ciao
[23:07] <ago_> hello
[23:07] <Flare183> !xubuntu | Linera
[23:08] <Linera> i'm already on ubuntu
[23:08] <mMezquitale> Linera, xfce=xubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, ubuntustudio = all ubuntu based
[23:08] <Alan502> Linera, try sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[23:08] <aperson> !hi | ago_
[23:08] <Linera> I'm actually on the laptop that is running linux
[23:08] <Alan502> Linera, if you don't want to reinstall the whole ubuntu you can just "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[23:09] <mMezquitale> Linera, like Alan502 said, install xubuntu-desktop, you can install it from within ubuntu
[23:09] <Linera> and that does what?
[23:09] <Alan502> Linera, that will download and install packages to "tweak" your ubuntu for a low ram
[23:09] <geirha> looter: That looks good, though I'd replace /usr/local with /opt throughout that guide, except for the script, which you can put in /usr/local/bin
[23:09] <bazhang> Linera, how much ram
[23:09] <shell> subito: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/art-imaging-linux/58248-pdf-tiff-any-other-image-type.html
[23:09] <Linera> i dunno
[23:09] <Linera> i know its under 1gb
[23:09] <Alan502> Linera, you will get a computer with poor effects, but it will run fast enough
[23:10] <looter> geirha, I will try that thank you for your insight on as to why i was having permission problems
[23:10] <Alan502> Linera, alt+f2 gnome-terminal
[23:10] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: still here?
[23:10] <Dougdoug4> Alan502 it shows me ubuntu
[23:10] <Linera> but since its no longer windows i can't see how much ram it has
[23:10] <Dougdoug4> or sebsebseb
[23:10] <Dougdoug4> whowever asked me
[23:10] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: ok
[23:10] <bazhang> Linera, then xubuntu may not make a difference; I would try lubuntu-desktop if you are on Karmic
[23:10] <Dougdoug4> it shows 'Ubuntu' under installed programs list
[23:10] <Flare183> Linera: run cat /proc/meminfo and pastebin the output
[23:10] <Alan502> Linera, then write sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[23:10] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: Do you have any data in that Wubi install that you want to get hold of or not?
[23:10] <geirha> looter: At which point did you get permission problems?
[23:10]  * Flare183 shuts up for he wont' confuse the user.
[23:10] <Flare183> won't*
[23:10] <Dougdoug4> errr, sebsebseb, yes
[23:10] <Dougdoug4> a couple music files and video files
[23:11] <Linera> flare where is run?
[23:11] <looter> geirha, after i created the shortcut on the desktop...
[23:11] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: hmm
[23:11] <Flare183> Linera: In the terminal
[23:11] <subito> shell: that doesn't help me strip the image :(
[23:11] <dragon> !who Linera
[23:11] <subito> the images*
[23:11] <matts45acp> can someone help me? ndiswrapper says the driver is installed but no hardware preent
[23:11] <dragon> !who > Linera
[23:11] <Dougdoug4> Linear: Applications > Accessories > Terminal > type sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[23:11] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: I am not sure how you would gain access to that, if Wubi won't boot up like normal
[23:11] <Ziber> !who
[23:11] <Dougdoug4> well i guess it's not important
[23:11] <Kappa> Anyone know a good reason why HD video in flash is so bad under linux?
[23:11] <Dougdoug4> so sebsebseb what are you saying i should do?
[23:11] <Nicekiwi9> switch10_:  w00p w00p xD it works now yay
[23:12] <aperson> Kappa, flash is closed source
[23:12] <Linera> terminal?
[23:12] <geirha> looter: The script need to be made executable. That is likely the cause of the permission problem. ''sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/name-of-script'' will make it executable
[23:12] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: well ideally it is probably best for you to get rid of Wubi, and do a real proper partitioned dual boot
[23:12] <Linera> I don't see a run
[23:12] <Dougdoug4> ..well ok
[23:12] <Linera> well I'm lost
[23:13] <aperson> sebsebseb, one can mount the image wubi created and restore files from it
[23:13] <bazhang> Linera, you dont type run
[23:13] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: there may be a way for you to get hold of those files, but I don't know enough about Wubi, to know
[23:13] <sebsebseb> aperson: ah yes that
[23:13] <looter> geirha, so should i try it again using /usr/local for the program files or should i just stick them in /opt what do you think?
[23:13] <sebsebseb> aperson: I read something like that before  or whatever, ok you know how Dougdoug4 would be able to do that?
[23:13] <matts45acp> can someone help me? ndiswrapper says the driver is installed but no hardware preent
[23:13] <DaveS> Is there a way to pipe all data from a tcp port into a file?
[23:13] <mMezquitale> Linera,open up a "terminal", should be along with the rest of your applications, mine is with "Accesories"
[23:13] <Linera> ok that quit/enter messages are becoming annoying
[23:13] <Kappa> I was thinking a driver or composting issue I did update to the latest drivers for my video card.
[23:14] <aperson> sebsebseb, looking it up now, I had to help someone else with it, all it is though, is mount
[23:14] <bazhang> Linera, what chat client
[23:14] <geirha> looter: It will work just as well in /usr/local as /opt. The only difference is that putting it in /opt would be more "correct" in regards to the standard. Though either way will work just as well, and you won't mess anything up either way.
[23:14] <Linera> pidgin
[23:14] <zeitlos> found rubyripper so far. so good
[23:14] <epinky> !terminal | Linera
[23:14] <digitalaxis> Hey guys, i downloaded secondlife for linux, and it downloads as "SecondLife-i686-<IP_ADDRESS>262.tar.bz2", how do i install it?
[23:14] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: Wubi installs can be converted into real partitions,  but probably best for you to do it the normal way  from a CD
[23:14] <aperson> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1037874 , ahh, found it
[23:15] <Hans_Henrik> i just tried installing Ubuntu on my brand new laptop (Core i7), used AMD64 cus i want 64-bit, and the installer was UBBER SLOW, and after a while just "hangs" with a completely blank "error screen" (i see the text "error", but else its completely blank). i tried with i386, and it worked just fine :s  (i7 is 64-bit)
[23:15] <Hans_Henrik> i just installed ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop, and when everything installed and worked fine, it wouldn't let me connect to the WLAN, it could see all WLAN's around, but it just stopped on "connecting", untill it gave up. (connection strength good, i can connect fine with win7)  - ideas how i can get my ubuntu to connect? (im on win7 now and gotta restart for everything i should try to attempt.)
[23:15] <digitalaxis>  Hey guys, i downloaded secondlife for linux, and it downloads as "SecondLife-i686-<IP_ADDRESS>262.tar.bz2", how do i install it?
[23:15] <digitalaxis>  Hey guys, i downloaded secondlife for linux, and it downloads as "SecondLife-i686-<IP_ADDRESS>262.tar.bz2", how do i install it?
[23:15] <zeitlos> hahaha
[23:15] <Linera> all this quit/enter spam is really annoying
[23:15] <aperson> Linera, hide joins/quits in your client
[23:15] <bazhang> digitalaxis, dont repeat so quickly
[23:15] <Linera> dunno how
[23:16] <ardchoille> Linera: which client are  you using?
[23:16] <Linera> pidgin
[23:16] <looter> geirha,  will have i hvae to make the scrip executable regardless whether I put files in /usr/local or /opt ?
[23:16] <digitalaxis> Oh sorry on spamming guys! I thought it was me that kept getting disconnected:(
[23:16] <zeitlos> i heard about second life :p
[23:16] <geirha> looter: Yes.
[23:16] <looter> geirha, thank you very much
[23:16] <Linera> well I'm lose
[23:16] <Linera> lost*
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Linera: for me that kind of stuff is part of  "The Real #ubuntu Experience"
[23:16] <ctmjr> digitalaxis: tar xvf name.tar.bz2 this will untar it (zip) it should have a INSTALL or README file in the dir
[23:17] <ardchoille> Linera: I know how to ignore junk in xchat and irssi, but not pidgin
[23:17] <burzki> matts45acp, what are you trying to get set up? wifi .. ?
[23:17] <digitalaxis> What ctmjr? i dont understand what you mean by "tar xvf name.tar.bz2"
[23:17] <Hans_Henrik> try ChatZilla (its a firefox addon, suprisingly good :o)
[23:17] <digitalaxis> That a program?
[23:18] <aperson> Linera, it's a plugin
[23:18] <PrototypeX29A> hey
[23:18] <epinky> Linera: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using%20Pidgin#HowdoIhideallthoseUserenteredtheroomandUserlefttheroommessages
[23:18] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: Did you miss the link or, you got it?
[23:18] <burzki> Dougdoug4, maybe sebsebseb will agree.  i founf founf easier/better to install ubuntu onto the hdd w/ windows already on it, from the ubuntu cd with the partitioner -- for dual boot.
[23:19] <TheJeffsta> :'(
[23:19] <shell> subito: ohh, you want to strip the images from a pdf and save them as .tiff?
[23:19] <ctmjr> digitalaxis: type "man tar" without the "" in a terminal and read that
[23:19] <sebsebseb> burzki: yep that's the way to do it, or don't dual boot with Windows :)
[23:19] <dragon> Linera: In Pidgin, there's a way to enable plugins. There's a plugin called "Hide extraneous join/part" something.
[23:19] <Linera> I'm completly lost. grats
[23:19] <burzki> sebsebseb, true there!  ;-)
[23:20] <subito> shell: save the text as tiff yes :( that's really weird i know
[23:20] <shell> subito: cant you use pdftohtml and get the images?
[23:20] <Madfreak> i need help with wine for ubuntu
[23:20] <mistergibson> anyone know how to configure pulse for system-wide instance?
[23:20] <bazhang> at any rate, Linera with so little ram, you would be better served installing lubuntu-desktop, assuming you are on version 9.10; xubuntu is not that much lighter
[23:20] <subito> shell: and then how do i get my pdf back?
[23:20] <sebsebseb> !details | Madfreak
[23:21] <mistergibson> !details pulse
[23:21] <gmarquezWRS> Sorry if this is the wrong channel, Can you tell me how to get channel for RHEL5?
[23:21] <ardchoille> !away > Linera|Away
[23:21] <shell> subito: I dont understand your question then
[23:21] <sebsebseb> gmarquezWRS: #redhat I think
[23:21] <mistergibson> !details pulseaudio
[23:21] <gmarquezWRS> ty
[23:21] <bazhang> gmarquezWRS, try /msg alis list *rhel*
[23:21] <digitalaxis> How do i get the drivers for my video card?
[23:21] <bbonora> has anybody in here tried using ubuntu studio with Asus eee
[23:21] <Madfreak> well, when i use the instructions  that wine hq gives me to install wine, it doesnt work
[23:22] <ardchoille> !video | digitalaxis
[23:22] <bbonora> this product is very interesting to me indamixx.com I don't understand how this guy is able to sell this when it's all os
[23:22] <epinky> !pulse | mistergibson
[23:22] <subito> shell: pdf -> tiff which represents exactly the pdf but without the images
[23:22] <Alan502> Where the heck did the "install" button go in wine?i i cannot find it anymore. I used to install programs with wine by selecting "unisntall wine software" and then "install..." but now another menu is shown. HELP INSTALLING SOFTWARE IN WINE PLEASE!
[23:22] <shingoki> Does anyone know why the lower left and right corners of all my wondiws looks slightly broken - a pixel in the wrong place on either side?
[23:22] <mistergibson> !pulse
[23:22] <sebsebseb> !caps | Alan502
[23:23] <Alan502> sebsebseb, ok i wont shout anymore
[23:23] <ardchoille> shingoki: sounds like a bug in the theme you're using. Does it look the same way with other themes?
[23:23] <Alan502> but please help!
[23:23] <digitalaxis> !video
[23:23] <shell> subito: okay .. do this then: pdftohtml -i (ignores images) -> htmltopdf == pdf without images.
[23:24] <Hans_Henrik> how about.. reading "man girls" is harder than reading a rot64'ed letter
[23:24] <bazhang> !ot | Hans_Henrik
[23:24] <shingoki> ardchoille: Nope this is with plain "Human" theme, it looks fine in the preview, but when I use the theme it is slightly broken
[23:24] <sebsebseb> Alan502: what is showing?
[23:24] <Madfreak> can i receive help installing wine in ubuntu 9.10
[23:24] <ardchoille> shingoki: hmm.. no idea, that is a nice theme
[23:24] <Fm_rock> hey
[23:24] <Hans_Henrik> wtf, oh sorry thought this was ubuntu-offtopic xD
[23:24] <sebsebseb> Alan502: also to install programs in Wine,  you should be able to just open up the .exe installer
[23:24] <sebsebseb> !language |  Hans_Henrik
[23:25] <shell> subito: or find a tool that can remove images from the pdf, and convert it to tiff?
[23:25] <dragon> Madfreak: sudo apt-get install wine
[23:25] <Hans_Henrik> sebsebseb: do you think that minor's would be able to learn any swear-words by that message? hmm...
[23:25] <TheJeffsta> where is the htdocs/public_html folder in Ubuntu?
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Alan502: and to uninstall them you can open up the uninstaller program from Wine's program files, or wherever it will be
[23:26] <lumines> Having issues installing ubuntu on a machine that has 4 drives in raid using the onboard chipset. Grub won't load (no such disk). Can anyone help?
[23:26] <dragon> TheJeffsta: check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ for that info
[23:26] <subito> shell: i've told on #ghostscript to use: gs -o file.tiff -sDEVICE=tiffg4 -dDELAYBIND -r800 -c '/image /pop load def .bindnow .setpdfwrite' -f file.pdf
[23:26] <epinky> TheJeffsta: /var/www
[23:26] <t0rc> lumines, are you booting from the correct drive in your bios?
[23:26] <Alan502> sebsebseb, clicking on the exe worked now, thanks
[23:26] <Alan502> sebsebseb, i hadn't noticed i could do such a simple thing, i just did it from the wine menu
[23:26] <Alan502> sebsebseb, thanks :)
[23:26] <subito> subito: i've been told
[23:27] <TheJeffsta> aha, thanks
[23:27] <sebsebseb> Alan502: the hidden .wine folder in Home, is all your Wine stuff by the way, except the program itself
[23:27] <Linera> so much for speeding this laptop anymore
[23:27] <Linera> :(
[23:27] <Alan502> sebsebseb, where are the programs installed then?
[23:27] <sebsebseb> Alan502: so if you move that .wine folder some where else,  and do a new program in Wine, you get a new .wine there
[23:27] <bazhang> Linera, install lubuntu-desktop as I have been suggesting
[23:27] <orbisvicis> anyone know which polkit policy synaptic/gksu uses to run as root ?
[23:27] <sebsebseb> Alan502: the programs are installed in .wine
[23:27] <shell> subito: yes?
[23:27] <sebsebseb> Alan502: the icons in the menu aren't though
[23:27] <Linera> I'm already on ubuntu
[23:28] <bazhang> Linera, right. I know.
[23:28] <Linera> I asked how to tweak it for performance
[23:28] <Madfreak> @dragon: i got this error: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[23:28] <Madfreak>   wine: Depends: wine1.2 but it is not going to be installed
[23:28] <bazhang> Linera, the package name is lubuntu-desktop
[23:28] <Madfreak> E: Broken packages
[23:28] <lumines> t0rc, *hits head on desk* sometimes it's the simplest things.... thanks
[23:28] <sebsebseb> Alan502: icons will be in .config or .local
[23:28] <bazhang> Linera, with so little ram no real way
[23:28] <Linera> why would i ever want to reinstall the same os
[23:28] <t0rc> Linera, run command line only.
[23:28] <rapha> help! how to get wacom tablet working under 9.10?
[23:28] <bazhang> Linera, its not the same, its a different DE
[23:28] <t0rc> lumines, heh, no worries. We all know from experience ;)
[23:28] <subito> shell: and i've just tested and it seems to work well :D
[23:28] <dragon> Is there a way to set the order in which services are invoked at startup?
[23:29] <sebsebseb> Alan502: and knowing about the hidden .folders in Home, is basics.
[23:29] <Alan502> sebsebseb, ok, i'll look at those directories if i need something. Thanks
[23:29] <dragon> Is there a way to set the order in which services are invoked at startup? My apache tries to start before tomcat and hence dies.
[23:29] <ardchoille> Linera: lubuntu-desktop is a msaller desktop environment that uses less resources for older machines
[23:29] <Linera> de?
[23:29] <dragon> sorry for that partial repeat.
[23:29] <bazhang> Linera, Desktop Environment = DE
[23:29] <Alan502> sebsebseb, knew about those hidden folders, not exactly how wine organized them tho
[23:29] <Linera> I'm on a intel p4
[23:29] <dragon> !who > Linera
[23:29] <Linera> an*
[23:29] <sebsebseb> Alan502: Wine basically puts a fake Windows install in .wine
[23:29] <dragon> !enter > Linera
[23:29] <sebsebseb> Alan502: well a kind of Windows install I should say
[23:30] <lokpest> filesystems for a eeepc with ssd? Ext2 or Ext4?
[23:30] <lokpest> journaling or not?
[23:30] <bazhang> Linera, well, that is the tweak. Good Luck.
[23:30] <Linera> I'm lost :(
[23:30] <epinky> Linera: it's not about reinstalling it's about changing to a lighter desktop environment
[23:30] <Bookman> rapha: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom#Ubuntu%209.04%20%28Jaunty%20Jackalope%29
[23:30] <Alan502> what are the advantages of using fat32 over ntfs in linux by the way?
[23:30] <bazhang> epinky, he/she has been told that many times.
[23:30] <kp-vs-ks> just install wireless and find only WEP works
[23:30] <sebsebseb> Alan502: have a look in .wine and things will make sense I guess :)
[23:30] <sebsebseb> Alan502: no need to use Fat32 with a Linux distro anymore
[23:30] <t0rc> Linera, use command line only. or install a different DE like everyone has been suggesting. Xubuntu may be an option.
[23:31] <presid3nt> whats a good distribution for table pcs?
[23:31] <sebsebseb> Alan502: also Ubuntu since 7.10 (October 2007) has had proper read and write NTFS support
[23:31] <Linera> I'm lost
[23:31] <Alan502> sebsebseb, so ntfs will work just as if it was fat32 in linux?
[23:31] <bazhang> Linera, please stop repeating that.
[23:31] <presid3nt> go walk a round
[23:31] <Alan502> sebsebseb, not even a faster response time?
[23:31] <ardchoille> Linera: would you like me to walk you through it in PM?
[23:31] <Linera> thx for 100000 different answers
[23:31] <LizardK|ng> my new ubuntu install is working good now
[23:31] <TheJeffsta> is there an easier way to give permission to a directory to be accessed within the /var/www directory without having to chmod every single one you need?
[23:31] <kiren> Alan502, long ago NTFS support was read only in linux, but its no longer the case
[23:32] <sebsebseb> Alan502: NTFS is better than Fat32.  you might buy a USB stick  or something that is using Fat32, but that's ok
[23:32] <sebsebseb> Alan502: Fat32 opens up on nearly any OS these days, but I guess that's also the case for NTFS.
[23:32] <bazhang> Linera, there were two options given; xubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-desktop , both of which you have not tried.
[23:32] <bazhang> Linera, there were not 10,000 options given.
[23:32] <Alan502> sebsebseb, i think i'll keep ntfs then. Thanks.
[23:33] <sebsebseb> Alan502: uhmm NTFS for what?
[23:33] <Alan502> sebsebseb, i have a windows/kubuntu double boot, so ntfs is still useful
[23:34] <sebsebseb> Alan502: you can read and write to your Windows partition from Ubuntu that's alright,  I don't recommend doing it the other way around though, Windows read or writing to Ubuntu
[23:34] <Alan502> sebsebseb, thanks for your advice :)
[23:34] <nomasteryoda> doing it from windows will kill your data
[23:34] <nomasteryoda> i know first hand
[23:34] <sebsebseb> Alan502: oh yeah and as long as Windows was shut down properly, then you should be able to access the partition  from Ubuntu no problem, and if it wasn't shut down properly you might get an issue
[23:35] <sebsebseb> Alan502: in fact that's a thing right there with NTFS
[23:35] <Alan502> sebsebseb, which one?
[23:35] <sebsebseb> Alan502: it needs to be shut down properly, or Ubuntu or other Linux distros even,  may bump into an issue when trying to mount/use it
[23:35] <mrselfpwn> Alan502: then use ntfsfix to fix it.
[23:35] <mrselfpwn> from linux.
[23:36] <sebsebseb> mrselfpwn: that's the force NTFS to mount thing?
[23:36] <Alan502> sebsebseb, nah, the only reason why i still have windows installed is because i play sometimes
[23:36] <mrselfpwn> sebsebseb: no it fixes ntfs joural
[23:36] <Linera> :/
[23:37] <sebsebseb> Alan502: play what?  those games might work in Wine and well when you just install there, or after a bit of configuring,  also maybe a virtual machine, depending on computer
[23:37] <Linera> :-/
[23:37] <bazhang> Linera, please stop that.
[23:37] <gmarquezWRS> anyone seen warthog9 ?
[23:37] <rapha> Bookman: already found that page, yes, and also created an xorg.conf (there is none by default under 9.10) - but nothing changed - the table gets recognized by the wacdump tool but not by X
[23:37] <Alan502> sebsebseb, i usually play games that require all my resources, such as call of duty mw 2
[23:37] <sebsebseb> alankila: A lot of people have an idea that Desktop Linux sucks for gaming, but there are actsaully quite a lot of good native games for it :)
[23:37] <Alan502> sebsebseb, those games don't even run on wine or a virtual machine
[23:38] <sebsebseb> alankila: wrong one
[23:38] <plustax> plustax> hey guys. I'm getting an error when I try to import an mp3 to add to my video
 Here's a screenshot of it.  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2066611/Screenshot.png
 Can anyone help me out?
[23:38] <sebsebseb> Alan502: see above
[23:38] <Alan502> i never said linux sucks for gaming, sebsebseb
[23:38] <Alan502> sebsebseb, i also play urban terror and frets on fire :)
[23:38] <sebsebseb> Alan502: I know, well I am just saying :)
[23:38] <Alan502> sebsebseb, but graphics suck! and they don't evey have an arcade mode
[23:38] <mrselfpwn> here is an awesom phythong program I use to get games.  It keeps them all in one place and can add and remove libs as needed; http://en.djl-linux.org/
[23:38] <tenach> pythong!
[23:39] <mrselfpwn> yes
[23:39] <Bookman> rapha, did you follow this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=967147
[23:39] <mrselfpwn> ^^
[23:39] <dragon> !ot | Alan502
[23:39] <plustax> can anyone help me with my issue?
[23:39] <Alan502> thanks dragon
[23:39] <sebsebseb> Alan502: there's at least one game from the repo, with rather impressive OpenGL  3D graphics, but this is off topic now
[23:40] <mrselfpwn> plustax: what issue?
[23:40] <plustax> plustax> hey guys. I'm getting an error when I try to import an mp3 to add to my video
 Here's a screenshot of it.  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2066611/Screenshot.png
 Can anyone help me out?
[23:40] <plustax> I've added mp3 before but for some reason it isn't working now.
[23:40] <sebsebseb> Alan502: Did you just send a notice to the whole channel?
[23:41] <LjL> sebsebseb: no, he didn't
[23:41] <Alan502> sebsebseb, it was just for you
[23:41] <mrselfpwn> plustax: i haven't used that program
[23:41] <__pyrus__> what theme have you got there puls?
[23:41] <plustax> hm
[23:41] <sebsebseb> Alan502: oh right not sure how you did that,  I was wondering though why it said notice
[23:41] <plustax> slick black
[23:42] <plustax> with custom mods
[23:42] <TheJeffsta> im having trouble getting apache to parse php, browser keeps asking me if I want to download the php files
[23:42] <plustax> 6 desktops each with different wallpapers
[23:42] <sebsebseb> Alan502: as for which game it is, I can't remember, you can look through Synaptic a good look through, and find out what games are available, plus their are other games you can install that aren't in the repo
[23:42] <Linera> well, I dunno what to do
[23:42] <__pyrus__> thanks
[23:42] <Alan502> sebsebseb, ok i'll google for "high graphic games for linux"
[23:43] <__pyrus__> nice mods.
[23:43] <mrselfpwn> Alan502: http://en.djl-linux.org/  try that
[23:43] <Madfreak> can I please have help with installing wine on ubuntu 9.10
[23:43] <rapha> Bookman: I've read that thread, too, yes - no dice. Probably my problem has to do with using as serial-to-usb adapter
[23:43] <sebsebseb> Alan502: well maybe not really high graphics or whatever, but the graphics in the game I am thinking of, are still pretty impressive really
[23:43] <ardchoille> !wine | Madfreak have  you already seen this?
[23:44] <__pyrus__> can you be more specific mad
[23:44] <Bookman> rapha, been there before with a barcode scanner!
[23:44] <Alan502> sebsebseb, i would just like to know which game was it!
[23:44] <mrselfpwn> Alan502: there are plenty of high graphics free games for Ubuntu, Dungeons and Dragons  online is free now.  Savage 2 is an awesome free game.
[23:44] <dragon> Madfreak: Please pastebin your attempt to install it and the error messages. No one can help otherwise.
[23:45] <rapha> Bookman: also though a serial-to-usb converter?
[23:45] <Darkwell> hello
[23:45] <kitty_> ok... where should i go to find errors generated by my network?
[23:45] <Bookman> rapha, yes, as well as a thermal Point Of Sale printer.
[23:45] <dragon> kitty_: what kid of errors?
[23:45] <dragon> s/kid/kind
[23:46] <Bookman> rapha, it was quite some time ago.
[23:46] <Darkwell> does the latest downloadable ubunti liveCD support XTS and luks ?
[23:46] <djura-san> how to disable installing of certain packages in all package managers and related apps in xubuntu? im using xubuntu and i have to install firefox since that option is automatic (apt-get upgrade). Im not using firefox from ubuntu repos so i dont wana see firefox packages inmy sys. Pining program is not an option since i dont wana see firefox at all.
[23:46] <djura-san> ?
[23:46] <Darkwell> ubuntu even =)
[23:46] <kitty_> any kind, before i was using a custom script for my firewall/software router, but i tried kmyfirewall and i can't get any errors out of it
[23:46] <rapha> Bookman: so if you could get them to work that's at least a bit of a reassurance I can make this tablet work also :-)
[23:46] <sebsebseb> Alan502: one of the classic games,  that has been made 3D and that.  got a ball  and you like bounce it on the thing into a thing with loads of bits or whatever it is, and the bits start to disappear,  and then you get no bits left, and you go on the next level.   I'm just looking for my notes.....
[23:47] <ravigehlot> I am not sure what may be going on but not even within 3 seconds of no touching the keyboard/mouse...the screen on my laptop automatically dims down...any clues?
[23:47] <Alan502> sebsebseb, yeah i remember playing that one :)
[23:47] <sebsebseb> Alan502: and the 3D game has a kind of water effect basicalley
[23:48] <switch10_> ravigehlot: go to power management settings
[23:48] <Darkwell> im thankful of someone knows
[23:48] <sebsebseb> !games | Alan502
[23:48] <Linera> I guess those of us who don't know linux already are just screwed. :(
[23:48] <ravigehlot> switch10: will look into that now
[23:48] <switch10_> ravigehlot: uncheck the dim my screen box
[23:48] <ravigehlot> switch10: oh okay, let me see
[23:49] <kitty_> dragon: any kind, before i was using a custom script for my firewall/software router, but i tried kmyfirewall and i can't get any errors out of it
[23:49] <ctmjr> Linera: everyone in this room at one time knew nothing about linux
[23:49] <switch10_> ravigehlot: or dim display when idle. rather
[23:49] <soopos> Do you see any mistake in the Makefile -file http://paste.pocoo.org/show/157978/ ?
[23:49] <ravigehlot> switch10: its unchecked
[23:49] <djura-san> please can someone give me any anwser?
[23:49] <ravigehlot> switch10: it has been unchecked so that is not the problem.
[23:50] <PrototypeX29A> ctmjr: yeah, but i think there is a lot of stuff, one has to learn the hard way
[23:50] <soopos> * http://paste.pocoo.org/show/157979/
[23:50] <dragon> kitty_: /var/log/messages
[23:50] <Linera> when you get 100,000 different answers for 1 question its impossible to learn anything
[23:50] <MrKeuner> hello, I have installed my parents laptop som version of Ubuntu I really do not remember. I have ssh access to that machine, 1- how can I see what version it runs? 2- What is a good upgrade procedure(to Karmic from whatever version it is)
[23:50] <switch10_> ravigehlot: hmm.  not sure than.  Im sure someone here can help.  maybe ask again...
[23:51] <sebsebseb> MrKeuner: depends on the version, if it is a good idea to attempt upgrading to Karmic or not, at this time
[23:51] <sebsebseb> !version |  MrKeuner
[23:51] <dragon> Linera: what's your question?
[23:51] <ravigehlot> switch10: I unchecked it for Battery settings and it seems to have fixed the problem.  I'm running linux Ubuntu 9.10 on a laptop with low ram. How can I tweak the os to run on the bare basics?
[23:52] <djura-san> how to disable installing of certain packages in all package managers and related apps in xubuntu? im using xubuntu and i have to install firefox since that option is automatic (apt-get upgrade). Im not using firefox from ubuntu repos so i dont wana see firefox packages inmy sys. Pining program is not an option since i dont wana see firefox at all.
[23:52] <MrKeuner> sebsebseb,  can I just upgrade to 9.04?
[23:52] <sebsebseb> MrKeuner: this is what I suggest then, stay with 8.10 for now,  come over and do a clean install when 10.04 comes out, that's released at the end of Aprl
[23:52] <Darkwell> instead of having one answer : "please insert coin before answer" "thank you for pying, we have only one way you can do it, and its not the way you thought of it"
[23:52] <switch10_> Linera: u should try xubuntu
[23:52] <PrototypeX29A> Linera: what are the bare basic?
[23:52] <PrototypeX29A> +s
[23:52] <t0rc> Linera, what are you pssing about?
[23:52] <Linera> I'm on ubuntu
[23:52] <sebsebseb> MrKeuner: well before a lot of people upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and got issues
[23:52] <bazhang> Linera, as suggested before, xubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop packages.
[23:53] <MrKeuner> sebsebseb, all right, thank you for your suggestion. I'll stay with 8.10
[23:53] <sebsebseb> MrKeuner: also a lot of us have decided that we would rather run 9.04 for now instead of 9.10.
[23:53] <dragon> Linera: imho you're too new to Linux to tweak the OS. Simply install a package called lubuntu-desktop and it will consume little RAM thereafter.
[23:53] <bsmith093> what is lubuntu
[23:53] <switch10_> Linera: there is another distribution of Ubuntu called xubuntu.  It is made to run on older hardware
[23:53] <bazhang> bsmith093, lxde
[23:53] <AfroMan> hello. I want to install Ubuntu and I have a intel cpu that supports 64 bit. shall I go for 64 version or 32?
[23:53] <djura-san> bsmith093, lxde on ubuntu
[23:53] <dragon> !info lubuntu-desktop | bsmith093
[23:53] <sebsebseb> MrKeuner: and there is little advantage gained from doing an 8.10 to 9.04 upgrade really
[23:53] <t0rc> Linera, multiple people have already given you solutions. lubuntu package, xubuntu package, use TTY only. Look through your start-up applications and remove the ones you don't need running.
[23:53] <hal9000> xubuntu rocks on my older cpu
[23:54] <MrKeuner> sebsebseb, I was very unhappy when I installed Karmic when it was released a month ago, but now it looks like the troubles are debugged
[23:54] <t0rc> MrKeuner, some are, some aren't.
[23:54] <sebsebseb> MrKeuner: 8.10 runs out of support when 10.04 comes out, or around then
[23:54] <switch10_> hal9000: me too :)
[23:54] <PrototypeX29A> MrKeuner: i still have problems
[23:54] <bsmith093> major sound issues in marmic
[23:54] <sebsebseb> MrKeuner: 8.10 is still my favourite release over all since 8.04
[23:54] <PrototypeX29A> i don't know whether they are karmic specific
[23:55] <cece> is there any relationship between mouse and python ? seriously
[23:55] <hal9000> thats right switch, i am enjoying it every day
[23:55] <dragon> Jaunty's graphics regressions made things hard.
[23:55] <switch10_> sebsebseb: it used to be mine, but i just upgraded to 9.10 and it is awesome
[23:55] <TheJeffsta> anyone have any experience with quake games and ubuntu?
[23:55] <dragon> cece: is that question related to Ubuntu? seriously
[23:55] <cece> dragon: of course
[23:55] <hal9000> fast, stable and sexy
[23:56] <t0rc> Mice are eaten by pythons.
[23:56] <dragon> t0rc: +1
[23:56] <Darkwell> i wonder if  there is support for XTS and luks in the ubuntu liveCD ... i got anser it seems toe xist for an installCD bit i need it for a liveCD
[23:56] <sebsebseb> MrKeuner: to make sure you get Ext4 and Grub 2 without issues,  clean install 10.04 when it comes out,  plus that then saves you upgrading through releases where things might also go wrong when doing upgrade.  I mean for example something might get left behind that is no longer needed, that then causes an issue in the future.   Normalley upgrades go well.  Plus easier to just install with Ext4 for example than try and convert Ext3 to Ext4 etc.
[23:56] <PrototypeX29A> t0rc: true, i wouldn't bet much on the mouse
[23:56] <n0pe> hi, does ubuntu come with anything that can monitor an LSI SAS Megaraid adapter?  or just dump the array info to stdout?
[23:56] <cece> dragon: i am using 9.10 with openbox, in the autostart script i write 'killall python' by mistake,and then i lost my mouse
[23:57] <t0rc> The mouse was in the python. And you killed it. ;-)
[23:57] <sebsebseb> switch10_: uhmm?
[23:57] <Linera> I've been told 100,000 different things. so I'm completely lost.
[23:57] <masshuu> i want to do somthing simular to the towel.blinkenlights.nl, were i assume the connection is run to an application instead of a login prompt then a bash window, ive partally gotten there so when i log into a certian user, it goes straight to the app, but i was looking to un somthing like a second sshd on another port and have all incoming connections ruin the app
[23:58] <dragon> cece: try running the following as root: `/usr/bin/python /usr/lib/system-service/system-service-d`
[23:58] <PrototypeX29A> t0rc: was it still alive then?
[23:58] <AfroMan> hello. I want to install Ubuntu and I have a intel cpu that supports 64 bit. shall I go for 64 version or 32?
[23:58] <sebsebseb> switch10_: what used to be yours or whatever, why did I get messaged?
[23:58] <dragon> !attitude | Linera
[23:58] <t0rc> Linera, well then, I'd stop complaining. Multiple people have simplified it for you.
[23:58] <switch10_> sebsebseb: i was referring to your comment about how 8.10 was your favorite
[23:58] <djustice> dragon: who's idea was that crap? core system utilities/configurator shouls be C. or c++ at least. meh.
[23:59] <PrototypeX29A> AfroMan: i guess, if you have more than 4GB of ram you should definitely go for 64bit
[23:59] <dragon> Is there a way to set the order in which services are invoked at startup? My apache tries to start before tomcat and hence dies.
[23:59] <jvasile> I am attempting to enable multicast in pulseaudio, but the option to enable multicast sender is greyed out in the device chooser.  How can I enable it?
[23:59] <sebsebseb> switch10_: favourite overall and with good reasons,  even though it lacks Ext4, which really does speed, boot up, shut down, and the automatic disk checking after 23 or so boots in 9.04.  However it's also not perfectly stable their since the kernel they have and such.
[23:59] <djustice> dragon: read up on debian's runlevel system.
[23:59] <t0rc> PrototypeX29A, it might've been for a little while but I believe the poor thing suffocated. :(
[23:59] <dragon> djustice: What you see is probably a wrapper. Core services of course don't run entirely in python.
[23:59] <sebsebseb> switch10_: oh yeah and ethernet woudn't work on the other computer in 8.10, but still my favourite over all