[05:29] <cdc> riddlebox, i get disconnected from the internet with in seconds i use pppoeconf to connect to the internet and a new interface by name ppp0 gets created but after few seconds an other interface by name ppp1 gets created
[05:29] <cdc> and i get disconnected
[05:29] <bruenig> natural20, if you want to icon, click on icon and the path should be /home/username/firefox/icons, of course replace username with your username
[05:29] <bruenig> the icon*
[05:30] <cdc> riddlebox, whats that i am missing in the configuration
[05:30] <cdc> i use pon dsl-provider
[05:30] <cdc> to start my connection
[05:30] <lupine_85> fix: on the middle (linux) pc, you should run 'sudo echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/forwarding'
[05:30] <riddlebox> cdc, hrmm I am looking
[05:30] <Sid> CyberMad: the dvd version contains both the livecd version AND the standard install version. The desktop version is a liveCD that you can install as well.
[05:30] <bruenig> when you get all of that sorted out. Hit ok or whatever it is and then that should work
[05:30] <skaller> cdc: your password?
[05:30] <cdc> riddlebox, when i start downloading something a new interface gets created
[05:30] <fix> lupine, should I run that with the computer that has internet or that needs internet?
[05:30] <natural20> bruenig: i click on the icon, but i get this error: Failed to execute child process "~firefox/firefox" (no such filre or directory)
[05:31] <cdc> skaller, password ? its perfect
[05:31] <CyberMad> Sid thanks... i will choose the desktop version
[05:31] <lupine_85> then plug in all your cables. configure the two pcs to talk to each other through one interface; everything should work fine after that
[05:31] <Sid> CyberMad: In other words, you can download either, and get a disc that lets you both run Ubuntu from disc and install it.
[05:31] <lupine_85> the one that already has internet
[05:31] <cdc> when i start downloading something i get disconnected
[05:31] <Sid> CyberMad: good choice.
[05:31] <lupine_85> the setting will be wiped every time you reboot
[05:31] <bruenig> natural20, you have to use ~/firefox/firefox, the / is important after the `
[05:31] <bruenig> ~
[05:31] <fix> Okay, after that what would I do?
[05:31] <skaller> when you download with firefox?
[05:31] <dindin> lupine_85: Thanks!
[05:31] <lupine_85> [04:31]  <lupine_85> then plug in all your cables. configure the two pcs to talk to each other through one interface; everything should work fine after that
[05:32] <lupine_85> dindin: that was @fix
[05:32] <natural20> bruenig my command is this:  ~/firefox/firefox
[05:32] <riddlebox> cdc, straight from google, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-138.html
[05:32] <bruenig> yes
[05:32] <bruenig> does that error.  You need to do /home/username/firefox/firefox, replace username with your own
[05:32] <lupine_85> just give them an IP in the same range
[05:32] <bruenig> that is the command
[05:33] <fix> What is the command to give them both the same IP in the same range?
[05:33] <KeithWeisshar> i just bought a WD MyBook drive, when I boot into linux the drive locks up and linux won't recognize the drive
[05:33] <KeithWeisshar> when I reboot I get the error device descriptor read/64, error -110
[05:33] <bruenig> this /home/username/firefox/firefox is the command
[05:33] <k1ll3rr3d> anyone have experience with hula email?
[05:33] <lupine_85> ok, run 'ifconfig ethX <ip address>' on each computer
[05:33] <McJerry> lupine_85 I've been able to get a linksys wpc54gs working with ndiswrapper under ubuntu and it will negotiate an ip addy via dhcp with any essid without security
[05:33] <cdc> riddlebox, ok one more question when i do make it says command not found which package should i install . I have installed automake
[05:33] <McJerry> how can i get it to negotiate with an essid using wpa
[05:33] <fix> ip address would be? <IP_ADDRESS> or something?
[05:34] <KeithWeisshar> why does the drive lock up when initializing the usb mass storage driver
[05:34] <haasteem> where do i find the hoary repositories?
[05:34] <brandon123> What is the command to install updates for ubuntu?
[05:34] <bruenig> !hoary
[05:34] <ubotu> hoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"
[05:34] <natural20> bruenig: nothing happens with new command line
[05:34] <cdc> i am unable to compile using make command.
[05:34] <riddlebox> cdc, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:34] <UpMarc> hi!... can someone tell me how to run Wine or put it in my applications menu?
[05:34] <lupine_85> fix: yes :). Choose something in a different range to your current ip address (e.g. say your middle PC has got <IP_ADDRESS> to talk to the router, use <IP_ADDRESS> to talk to the end PC)
[05:35] <bruenig> natural20, put that in the command part of the launcher not in the command line
[05:35] <bruenig> and make sure you replace username with your username
[05:35] <haasteem> bruenig: they're not there... ;)
[05:35] <fix> and this will resset on startup?
[05:35] <brandon123> What is the command to install updates for ubuntu, anyone?
[05:35] <mike654> can i go from 64 bit to 32 bit without using the cd?
[05:35] <bruenig> haasteem, aren't they though
[05:35] <dibblego> on installing I try to repartition my disk alongside windows but after partitioning occurs, the partition table doesn't look as if it has changed
[05:35] <dibblego> brandon123, sudo apt-get update
[05:35] <bruenig> why are you using hoary. Might as well get amiga going
[05:35] <natural20> bruening: yes, comand text feild of launcher, yes, baumbuffi instead of username
[05:35] <lupine_85> in addition, you'll need to run 'ifconfig ethX netmask <IP_ADDRESS> broadcast <ip-but-ending-with.255>'
[05:35] <dr_willis> dibblego,  what are ya parttining them with?
[05:35] <lupine_85> fix: yes
[05:36] <brandon123> dibblego i did that but that does not install the updates
[05:36] <bruenig> natural20, put that command in the command line now and see if it works
[05:36] <bruenig> in the terminal rather
[05:36] <bruenig> put it in the terminal
[05:36] <dibblego> dr_willis, the installer thing that partitions them (forget the name and I'm not at the machine at this very point in time)
[05:36] <dibblego> brandon123, which updates?
[05:36] <McJerry> brandon123 in a terminal sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:36] <haasteem> !upgrade
[05:36] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[05:36] <lupine_85> on the end pc, you'll also need to run 'ip route add default via <middle-pc-ip-address> dev ethX'
[05:36] <dibblego> brandon123, sudo apt-get dist-update
[05:36] <lupine_85> all as root/sudo, of course
[05:36] <mike654> can i go from 64-bit ubuntu to 32-bit ubuntu without using a 32-bit CD?
[05:37] <dibblego> er wait
[05:37] <dibblego> brandon123, sudo apt-get upgrade (sorry)
[05:37] <dr_willis> dibblego,  some times a reboot is needed so the system can see the  changes
[05:37] <bruenig> mik654, I will say it is unlikely
[05:37] <brandon123> dibblego: thanx
[05:37] <UpMarc> hi!... can someone tell me how to run Wine or put it in my applications menu?
[05:37] <mike654> yeah thought so, but worth asking
[05:37] <haasteem> bruenig: there is a hoaryupgradenotes wiki
[05:37] <JoseStefan> any known issues with the latest xserver update on 6.06?
[05:37] <fix> i kind of forgot the commands so could you say them again in a private chat because all this talking is hard to comprehend
[05:37] <natural20> bruening: /home/baumbuffi/firefox/firefox does not work, nothing happens
[05:37] <fix> BTW, i really appreciate your jelp
[05:37] <fix> help*
[05:37] <bruenig> UpMarc, wine is not really that kind of application
[05:37] <dibblego> dr_willis, ok I'll try it
[05:37] <McJerry> anyone here using a linksys wpc54gs pcmcia wifi card?
[05:37] <cdc> riddlebox, i think i found it
[05:38] <lupine_85>  McJerry: well done :).
[05:38] <bruenig> natural 20 do "cd ~/firefox && ./firefox"
[05:38] <haasteem> bruenig: i guess they must be that... at least they are not the ones in the /etc/apt/sources.list that comes with the hoary cd
[05:38] <cdc> riddlebox, initially the dsl-provider file had these 2 uncommented lines
[05:38] <cdc> #lcp-echo-interval 30
[05:38] <cdc> #lcp-echo-failure 4
[05:38] <lupine_85> I'm not registered so I can't do /msg
[05:38] <cdc> but now i ve commented out these
[05:38] <fix> oh
[05:38] <sethk> bruenig, might be worthwhile to teach him tab completion.  that way at least whatever he types exists
[05:38] <lupine_85> tell you what, join #ubuntu-lupine
[05:38] <cdc> will this solve the problem? i think it has but not very sure
[05:38] <fix> okay thank you lupine
[05:38] <dr_willis> UpMarc,  normally ya download the program ya want to install. install wine, then do a 'wine installer.exe' and it 'should' put an icon in  the menus for the installed program.
[05:38] <McJerry> lupine_85, i still have an issue I need some direction with
[05:39] <natural20> bruenig: ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:39] <sethk> natural20, bruenig ok, that answers that.  he needs libstdc++.so.5
[05:39] <UpMarc> dr_willis: Wine is installed but not in the applications menu...
[05:39] <McJerry> linksys wpc54gs card negotiates link with any unsecured essid but i cannot negotiate link to my essid using wpa encryption.  Suggestions??
[05:40] <dr_willis> UpMarc,  thats because you dont normally run just 'wine' you use 'wine windowsbinary.exe'
[05:40] <John[1] > what is the command to get the updated repositorys
[05:40] <JoseStefan> Any known issues with the latest xserver-xorg update on dapper?
[05:40] <UpMarc> bruenig: someone told me it would work like Window Movie Maker
[05:40] <jackie> !nvidia
[05:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:40] <bruenig> UpMarc, what are you trying to do with wine
[05:40] <DarkMageZ> JoseStefan, besides it breaking xorg, nope
[05:40] <stephans> 3d accel doesn not work in intel 810 cards
[05:40] <bruenig> !Info libstdc++5
[05:40] <ubotu> Package libstdc5 does not exist in dapper
[05:41] <sethk> bruenig, I'll get the package name
[05:41] <UpMarc> bruenig: wanna run .wmv files and edit them
[05:41] <DarkMageZ> JoseStefan, i'd downgrading, or not upgrading
[05:41] <bruenig> UpMarc, what application are you going to use to do that
[05:41] <billytwowilly> hey, is the macbook officially supported by ubuntu?
[05:41] <sethk> bruenig, in breezy it's libstdc++5
[05:41] <dr_willis> UpMarc,  you dont 'run' wmv's they are video files - that MAY be viewable in vlc, xine, mplayer, or totem.
[05:41] <sethk> bruenig, :)
[05:41] <bruenig> sethk
[05:42] <dr_willis> UpMarc,  some wmv's may not be viewable at all - it depends on the wmv codecs
[05:42] <cdc> let me check again
[05:42] <UpMarc> dr_willis: none of those read .wmv files :-(
[05:42] <sethk> bruenig, there is also libstdc++5-3.3-dbg and libstdc++5-3.3-dev in breezy
[05:42] <JoseStefan> DarkMageZ, i find it very weird that an update can break so many setups
[05:42] <chuck> so uh, do I just like, ask a question?
[05:42] <dr_willis> UpMarc,  they can IF the wmv codec is one they can handle.
[05:42] <Sid> chuck: indeed
[05:42] <McJerry> chuck, yes
[05:42] <sethk> bruenig, but I'm not sure those contains actual libraries
[05:42] <UpMarc> dr_willis: but where can I get codec for them?
[05:42] <bruenig> alright natural20, I hope this firefox is worth it. Try sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[05:42] <dr_willis> !w32codecs
[05:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:42] <DarkMageZ> JoseStefan, me to, i can't believe such a bad package made it to the main repos...
[05:42] <bruenig> dev likely does not
[05:42] <dr_willis> UpMarc,  ya just asked a FAQ! :P
[05:42] <Anubuntu> hello, how do I mount an external usb harddrive via ubuntu?
[05:43] <wolfmanz> whats the command to list the drives connected to a computer?
[05:43] <Sid> Anubuntu: you mean, it doesn't do it automatically for ya?
[05:43] <Anubuntu> well
[05:43] <Anubuntu> its plugged in
[05:43] <Anubuntu> nothings showing up in places
[05:43] <dr_willis> wolfmanz,  'sudo fdisk -l' is one i use
[05:43] <sethk> bruenig, -dbg has the libraries
[05:43] <Anubuntu> it shows up in the device manager
[05:43] <Anubuntu> but no where else
[05:43] <bruenig> natural20, are you still there
[05:43] <Sid> hmm
[05:44] <sethk> bruenig, -dev does also, in a gcc-lib directory
[05:44] <natural20> bruenig, yes, it is doing stuff
[05:44] <chuck> awesome... so I was trying to get that fancy 3ddesktop thingy to work, and discovered I needed glx(?) which needs dri(?) ... then I read that dri isn't supported on my sis m760gx card, so is my situation hopeless?
[05:44] <bruenig> as long as I don't have to do any path specifying, I will happy
[05:44] <wweasel> !ntfs
[05:44] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:44] <danieleboyo> i have a probelm with a partiton auto disabling itself after reboot
[05:44] <redsoxfan90> can some1 pm me and help me?
[05:44] <natural20> bruening: it appears to have worked
[05:44] <sethk> redsoxfan90, why not ask your question here?
[05:45] <bruenig> redsox fan what do you need, you probably have a better chance will 784
[05:45] <Sid> Anubuntu: sadly, this is where my expertise ends.
[05:45] <bruenig> natural 20 retry that command I gave you earlier
[05:45] <bruenig> the one that ended ./firefox
[05:45] <UpMarc> ok thank you all anyway
[05:45] <natural20> bruenig: YES!
[05:45] <natural20> YES YES YES
[05:45] <JoseStefan> DarkMageZ, I wonder if the package has missing dependencies, or a broken dependency tree
[05:45] <bruenig> natural20, redo that launcher thing and put that command in it
[05:45] <Sid> chuck: your sis card... 2D or 3D?
[05:46] <danieleboyo> anyone willing to help me with an autodisabling partition?
[05:46] <natural20> i had no need to do anything to the launcher
[05:46] <rixth> Yo. How do I setup software raid?
[05:46] <DarkMageZ> JoseStefan, possible, but that's for the maintainers to sort out :)
[05:46] <chuck> hmm... I don't know, how do I find out?
[05:46] <lupine_85> wpa_supplicant
[05:46] <Plutarch> Yo, I don't know.
[05:46] <lupine_85> !wpa_supplicant
[05:46] <ubotu> wpasupplicant: Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). In component main, is important. Version 0.4.8-3ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 195 kB, installed size 532 kB
[05:46] <Plutarch> Hey Yo, what do you know?  Our flowers won't grow.
[05:46] <bruenig> natural20, you mean you just clicked the launcher and it worked?
[05:46] <natural20> bruenig, correct
[05:46] <bruenig> natural20, ok well it should have worked originally but the library got in the way
[05:46] <bruenig> ok well good then
[05:46] <wweasel> !fat32
[05:46] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:47] <bruenig> I am off to bed
[05:47] <natural20> bruenig, thank you so much
[05:47] <natural20> sethk, thank you too
[05:47] <danieleboyo> any ideas? auto disabling partition after reboot
[05:47] <Sid> chuck: at this point, it looks to me like you card's 3D capabilities may or may not be installed/supported under Ubuntu.
[05:48] <sethk> danieleboyo, usually you need to run fsck, possibly with non-standard arguments or y interactive answers, to fix the partition
[05:48] <Sid> chuck: heh, you wouldn't happen to know someone called himeka?
[05:48] <danieleboyo> sethk: could you elaborate a bit more please?
[05:48] <lupine_85> did you get that McJerry?
[05:49] <chuck> hmm, no, who's himeka?
[05:49] <sethk> danieleboyo, tell me exactly what is happening
[05:49] <yurtle> hello can somone direct me to a php-nuke channel ?
[05:49] <brandon123> I updated xorg and now i cant get on it :( anyone help?
[05:49] <weirdo> i need help following directions on this forum.. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068
[05:49] <inrelief_> hey all, i've got totem with the xine backend and i'm trying to play encrypted dvd's with no luck
[05:49] <weirdo> one of their code has a smiley face in it..
[05:49] <lupine_85> brandon123: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or just run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[05:50] <Sid> chuck: someone I know who shares your e-mail domain. Alas.
[05:50] <weirdo> search for #video.driver:auto
[05:50] <danieleboyo> sethk: what happens is that i have a partition that starts disabled and i am able to enable it, but upon reboot, its is disabled again
[05:50] <weirdo> what should have been in place of the smiley face?
[05:50] <brandon123> lupine_85 thankyou very much
[05:50] <lupine_85> np
[05:50] <sethk> danieleboyo, how do you enable it?
[05:50] <sethk> danieleboyo, and what do you mean exactly by disabled?
[05:50] <JoseStefan> lupine_85, i just used the "/dapper" method, seems more standard-ish
[05:51] <Sid> chuck: but yeah, I'm trying to look up your card right now
[05:51] <Sid> chuck: is it a laptop that uses your card?
[05:51] <danieleboyo> it no longer is a mounted, and i enable it by going to the default disk editor that comes with dapper
[05:51] <wolfmanz> dr_willis: thanks for that info.
[05:52] <sethk> danieleboyo, I suspect that the file system isn't clean, and during the boot process it is not mounted for that reason
[05:52] <chuck> yeah, one of those darn acers
[05:52] <dr_willis> wolfmanz,  linux FUNdamentals
[05:52] <sethk> danieleboyo, run dmesg, and see if there are any messages about something not mounted
[05:52] <chuck> what does my e-mail domain show up as?
[05:52] <sethk> danieleboyo, the message might also be in /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog
[05:52] <weirdo> anyone wanna check for me?
[05:52] <rukuartic> Can anyone point me to an indepth/comprehensive guide on filepermissions? Or even better--if a few people could just sit and talk with me a moment through prvmsgs, that would be awesome.
[05:53] <sethk> danieleboyo, if you don't find anything, with the partition not mounted, run fsck.xxxx (fsck.ext3, fsck.ext2, whichever one first the partition's file system)
[05:53] <sethk> danieleboyo, see if it asks you whether or not to fix things.
[05:53] <Sid> chuck: sympatico.ca
[05:53] <danieleboyo> sethk: umm dmesg is really long
[05:53] <dr_willis> rukuartic,  theres a great many beginner linxu guides out there ya should read/bookmark. (google for them) and check out the tldp.org site and its guides
[05:53] <ad0le> man, really messed up my sound... added snd-oss, snd-sequencer to the modules and now nothing works. The alsa server is running, nothing is muted, and the system even thinks the sound is playing, bit it's not. Any ideas?
[05:53] <sethk> danieleboyo, try something like   dmesg | grep -i mount
[05:54] <Sid> chuck: and chuck, yeah... I don't know whether or not your SIS card has drivers in Ubuntu. And, naturally, the 3D desktop requires 3D drivers, I'm afraid.
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> rukuartic: The man pages for chmod and chown will also be helpful.
[05:55] <gxmame> algum aki poderia me ajudar :)
[05:55] <sethk> !es
[05:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:55] <sethk> it's not exactly spanish, but that's as close as I could come  :)
[05:55] <JoseStefan> if they fix the xserver-xorg-core problem, Where would be the 1st place to know ?
[05:55] <sethk> is that port?
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> sethk: I think it's Portugese...
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> !pt
[05:55] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:55] <chuck> hmm, what's aiglx?  it seems to have a set of dri kernel modules
[05:55] <sethk> tonyyarusso, right
[05:56] <danieleboyo> sethk: itsays... Unrecognized mount option "errors=remount-rwauto" or missing value
[05:56] <sethk> danieleboyo, ok
[05:56] <sethk> danieleboyo, I think it is supposed to be errors=remount,rwauto
[05:56] <sethk> let me check
[05:57] <rukuartic> tonyyarusso: Well... actually I've been looking. I've read a few articles, but I'm having a tad of trouble. For example, I've added a test user (no sshd, don't worry :P) and I'm trying to figure out why when /home/test is rwxr-x--- I can't read it (yes I'm part of the test group)
[05:57] <sethk> danieleboyo, no,
[05:57] <sethk> danieleboyo, probably noauto
[05:57] <bj_> Hey all, flash is locking up firefox. when I hit back. Closing a tab is OK, but the back button locks the browser when any flash is being displayed. I looked around and I had 2 versions of flash installed, so I fixed that and now only have 1, but it still does it. The only relevant thing I changed was a new mobo/cpu. I went dual core, and everything seems to be working OK besides this
[05:57] <sethk> danieleboyo, change it to errors=remount,noauto
[05:57] <danieleboyo> in fstab?
[05:57] <sethk> danieleboyo, but that won't mount it
[05:57] <redsoxfan90> were can i paste something
[05:57] <sethk> danieleboyo, yes, in fstab, take out the noauto altogether
[05:58] <rukuartic> bj_: so you know, i've had that problem too :P
[05:58] <rukuartic> !paste
[05:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:58] <sethk> danieleboyo, rwauto isn't a correct option, at least according to the docs
[05:58] <sethk> danieleboyo, possibly it should be errors=remount,rw,auto
[05:58] <bj_> rukuartic: did you get it fixed?
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> rukuartic: Do the files in the folder have matching permissions?  What filesystem?
[05:58] <danieleboyo> maybe..
[05:58] <danieleboyo> ill try them
[05:58] <rukuartic> bj_: nope P wish I did...
[05:58] <sethk> danieleboyo, but rw and auto are defaults, so you can take them out
[05:58] <Sid> chuck: aiglx is an alternative to xgl; it's basically another 3D desktop deal
[05:58] <Sid> chuck: ( I think)
[05:58] <redsoxfan90> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21362
[05:59] <redsoxfan90> can someone please tell me my problem in there
[05:59] <wweasel> Does anyone here use the thing at www.fs-driver.com to read/write ext3 under windows? Do you know if it has stable write support for ext3?
[05:59] <sexualpotatoes> has ati 3d accel been fixed in 6.06?
[05:59] <rukuartic> tonyyarusso: ext3 I'm pretty sure. there's only one visible file in the directory, and its 770
[05:59] <verbose> dumb question, but what is the package with the kernel source tree called?
[05:59] <redsoxfan90> me?
[06:00] <rummik> ok, this prolly sounds stupid, but i just updated xorg and it isn't working anymore
[06:00] <Plutarch> I'M GAY.
[06:00] <sexualpotatoes> fantastic
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> verbose: linux-source (or linux-source-$version)
[06:00] <Plutarch> YEAH, IT'S GREAT, ISN'T IT?
[06:00] <sexualpotatoes> it depends...
[06:00] <redsoxfan90> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21362\
[06:00] <McJerry> redsoxfan90 first glimpse looks like you need to resolve your dependencies
[06:00] <redsoxfan90> ok mc
[06:00] <sexualpotatoes> lesbian?
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> Plutarch: Please don't spam the channel with that sort of thing.
[06:00] <Plutarch> DOES IT DEPEND ON WHETHER YOU'RE A SEXUAL POTATO?
[06:01] <Plutarch> Okay, no problem.
[06:01] <sexualpotatoes> it depends on whether you are male or female lol
[06:01] <IcemanV9> redsoxfan90: sudo apt-get -f install
[06:01] <Plutarch> I have to watch the Simpsons
[06:01] <Plutarch> On my new Dell monitor
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> rukuartic: So it says you don't have permissions to see that then?  Is this in Gnome, cli, or both?  (Like, will 'cat filename' work even if Nautilus won't?)
[06:01] <Plutarch> 24", baby.
[06:01] <rummik> how do i downgrade to my previous xorg?
[06:02] <verbose> tonyyarusso: thanks
[06:02] <First|Bleh> Plutarch: mine is only 19" but my dell ultrasharp has been great.
[06:02] <i3dIn> rummik: that could be painful task to do
[06:02] <First|Bleh> although i wouldn't buy anything else from them
[06:03] <Plutarch> Sweet.
[06:03] <Plutarch> Why?
[06:03] <bimberi> !xorgbug > rummik
[06:03] <Plutarch> This 24" is insanely awesome.
[06:03] <oconnore> I'm trying to get hardware acceleration for my laptop (Dell Latitude CPx). I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto down to the letter, but the X server says says "no device found". Can anyone help?
[06:03] <First|Bleh> exploding laptops and horrible tech support ring a bell?
[06:03] <rukuartic> tonyyarusso: I'm actually just working in bash... I try cd /home/test and I get "permission denied". let me try nautilus really quick.
[06:03] <rummik> i2dIn: well, what should i do then? xorg is borked...
[06:03] <upgrdman> 6.06 is the latest version, right?
[06:03] <Plutarch> Does their one true treasure line ring a bell?
[06:03] <First|Bleh> 6.06-1
[06:03] <rummik> *i3dIn
[06:03] <Plutarch> A treasure line as in the monitors they have for sale.
[06:04] <wweasel> Question: How safe is NTFS write support?
[06:04] <i3dIn> rummik: it will only break more dependencies if you downgrade
[06:04] <bimberi> rummik: look for a /msg from ubotu
[06:04] <Plutarch> Frankly, their monitors kick ass.
[06:04] <First|Bleh> Plutarch: yes..i said the monitor was great.
[06:04] <bimberi> !xorgbug
[06:04] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc). Bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[06:04] <First|Bleh> did you not read that?
[06:04] <Plutarch> Obviously not.
[06:04] <Plutarch> My bad.
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> First|Bleh: (I think it's actually .1, not -1, not that it matters terribly unless giving the ISO download URL)
[06:04] <rukuartic> tonyyarusso: Update--Doesn't work in nautilus either.
[06:04] <Plutarch> But would that deter you from upgrading to a better monitor?
[06:04] <i3dIn> rummik: the way you can try is to apt-get to a specific version of xserver-xorg
[06:04] <jackie> hi, i am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-20c0b7106f06055eed889efe3946f560c34a8b1a      to install 3d of geforce 5200, but  when i sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, it tells me "error: your x configuration has been altered. this script cannot automatically. if you bellieve that this not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following command: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11xorg.cong .
[06:04] <jackie> md5sum otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the driver section from nv to nvidia." what should i do???
[06:05] <rummik> how do i switch to ubotu's message in irssi?
[06:05] <wweasel> Guys? How safe is it to enable write support for NTFS partitions?
[06:05] <rummik> wait..nm
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> rukuartic: Can I see the ls -l of /home/test and groups rukuartic, just to see for myself?
[06:05] <rukuartic> wweasel: not very much.
[06:05] <bimberi> rummik: alt-2 (or 3 or 4 ...)
[06:05] <rukuartic> tonyyarusso: sure
[06:05] <JoseStefan> rummik, got an answer yet?
[06:05] <Plutarch> First|Bleh?
[06:05] <IcemanV9> wweasel: bad idea :/
[06:05] <adammichaelroach> jackie, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf go to Device where it says nv and change it to nvidia
[06:06] <JoseStefan> rummik, try: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper
[06:06] <DarkMageZ> wweasel, currently we advise against it, tho i've heard good stuff about ntfs-3g if you are game enough to try it
[06:06] <sethk> jackie, you have to have left out part of that message
[06:06] <sethk> jackie, paste it into a pastebot if you can
[06:06] <wweasel> rukuartic, IcemanV9: that's what I always felt, but alot of people do it, so I wanted to be sure.
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> wweasel: I've never done it myself.  I've talked to people who have and say it's fine, but everyone seems to include the caveat about it.  I think I'd try it on an unimportant system only to find out maybe.
[06:06] <First|Bleh> Plutarch: No, because their monitors are generally solid. It's their other products that I can't have any faith in that I wouldn't buy.
[06:06] <sethk> tonyyarusso, don't do it
[06:06] <Plutarch> That's a rather smart approach to Dell.
[06:06] <sethk> tonyyarusso, it has known limitations, not just bugs
[06:07] <sexualpotatoes> not buying anything from dell is smarter
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Oh?  Haven't heard of those - what are they?
[06:07] <ad0le> anyone willing to help with my sound issue?
[06:07] <sethk> tonyyarusso, I believe related to extended the size of a file.
[06:07] <Plutarch> I disagree partially, sexualpotatoes
[06:07] <naa> smart approach to dell?
[06:07] <Plutarch> Yes.
[06:07] <sexualpotatoes> smart approach is to not buy from them
[06:07] <First|Bleh> my tower is all custom built..i wouldn't buy a PC from any mainstream producer.
[06:08] <Plutarch> Nah.
[06:08] <ad0le> added snd-oss, snd-sequencer to the modules and now nothing works. The alsa server is running, nothing is muted, and the system even thinks the sound is playing, but it's not. Any ideas?
[06:08] <rummik> ouch, typing all the stuff ubotu sent is a pain...
[06:08] <First|Bleh> at least i know what hardware i'm getting
[06:08] <sexualpotatoes> smart approach to dell is an oxymoron
[06:08] <Plutarch> First|Bleh has his opinions right.
[06:08] <rummik> i shoulda checked to see if i had gpm installed...
[06:08] <oconnore> can someone help me?
[06:08] <Plutarch> Yes, sexualpotatoes, to you.
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Ah.  Well, no real plans anyway, since I don't use my Windows any more and am probably just wiping it soon anyway.
[06:08] <IcemanV9> !offtopic
[06:08] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:08] <sexualpotatoes> and sane people
[06:08] <Plutarch> What about insane people?
[06:08] <sethk> First|Bleh, you get cheap hardware and save money.  whether that make sense for you depends on your situation.
[06:08] <JoseStefan> rummik, you just need to undo the last update right?
[06:09] <sethk> oconnore, don't ask someone to help, ask a question
[06:09] <Plutarch> Do you mean to say that Dell hardware is cheap, sethk?
[06:09] <First|Bleh> sethk: right
[06:09] <sexualpotatoes> good thing we're not off topic right
[06:09] <rummik> JoseStefan: yeah, that's all
[06:09] <oconnore> sethk, I already did
[06:09] <JoseStefan> rummik, try:  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper
[06:09] <cyphase> http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/08/21/space.tourist.ap/
[06:09] <oconnore> I'm trying to get hardware acceleration for my laptop (Dell Latitude CPx). I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto down to the letter, but the X server says says "no device found". Can anyone help?
[06:10] <sexualpotatoes> why do i impulsively click all links that i see...
[06:10] <jackie> adammichaelroach, sethk ,thanks
[06:10] <sexualpotatoes> why do you send that?
[06:10] <bj_> do sata drives need dma?
[06:10] <sexualpotatoes> *did
[06:10] <First|Bleh> http://whoresofwarcraft.com
[06:10] <sethk> oconnore, I hadn't seen the question, sorry.
[06:10] <rummik> JoseStefan: that looks like it's working
[06:10] <sexualpotatoes> lmao
[06:10] <_tcc> O.O
[06:10] <oconnore> no problem
[06:10] <help_me> hey...
[06:10] <sethk> oconnore, which video hardware do you have?
[06:11] <Plutarch> HEY
[06:11] <help_me> kinda got a problem...
[06:11] <Plutarch> HELP ME
[06:11] <rummik> JoseStefan: will this be the one that was on the cd i used to install?
[06:11] <help_me> i forgot my login info lol
[06:11] <rukuartic> !help
[06:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:11] <bimberi> rummik: just be aware that that downgrades 2 versions
[06:11] <phargle> !caps
[06:11] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:11] <JoseStefan> rummik, should be the same yes
[06:11] <Plutarch> I'LL SHOUT
[06:11] <sexualpotatoes> how do you shout with a keyboard?
[06:11] <Plutarch> I CAN READ UPPERCASE
[06:11] <help_me> i can login to the recovery console...
[06:11] <sethk> help_me, boot the live cd or a rescue cd and find out
[06:11] <wweasel> Plutarch, no one wants to help you if you shout.
[06:11] <Plutarch> OH, THE LOGIC, SEXUALPOTATOES.
[06:11] <rummik> JoseStefan: thanks, it should work then ^_^
[06:11] <sethk> help_me, you can get the user name out of /etc/passwd
[06:11] <First|Bleh> help_me: as root type passwd usernamehere
[06:11] <JoseStefan> rummik, just remember to keep an eye open for a "newer" update
[06:11] <oconnore> sethk: ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x
[06:11] <First|Bleh> and just reset your password
[06:12] <sexualpotatoes> you CAN'T SHOUT WITH A KEYBOARD YOU NEED VOCAL CORDS NOOB!!
[06:12] <Plutarch> I like his rhetoric.
[06:12] <Plutarch> He's hired.
[06:12] <help_me> i cantremember the username either tho...
[06:12] <rummik> JoseStefan: thanks, it works perfectly
[06:12] <help_me> lol
[06:12] <First|Bleh> ....
[06:12] <sethk> oconnore, I've dealt with nvidia more than ati, but I do have one box with an ati.  Are you certain that that particular ati is supported?
[06:12] <ad0le> added snd-oss, snd-sequencer to the modules and now nothing works. The alsa server is running, nothing is muted, and the system even thinks the sound is playing, bit it's not. Any ideas?
[06:12] <Plutarch> :)
[06:12] <help_me> i haven't logged into my linux box in AGES
[06:12] <help_me> lol
[06:12] <JoseStefan> rummik, i think i can find the previous last update on the http repositories
[06:13] <JoseStefan> that would be better
[06:13] <help_me> gah.. i think i am just gonna reformat...
[06:13] <help_me> lol
[06:13] <phargle> it would be better if he were still here
[06:13] <wweasel> I just asked about NTFS write support...I have a similar but opposite question. I know ext2 write support is stable in Windows, but how good is ext3 at this point (I know in the past it was alpha, just as NTFS is in Linux now).
[06:13] <help_me> ty anyways...
[06:13] <sexualpotatoes> IT"S FANTASMIC
[06:13] <Plutarch> AWESOME
[06:13] <sexualpotatoes> INDEED
[06:13] <Plutarch> WHERE'S FIRST|BLEH?
[06:13] <sexualpotatoes> I DONT KNOW
[06:13] <FirstStrike> ....
[06:14] <Plutarch> INDEEDERINO.
[06:14] <sexualpotatoes> LOAD NOISES
[06:14] <help_me> all i need to do now is find my cd lol
[06:14] <Plutarch> WHY DOES HE KEEP USING PERIODS?
[06:14] <help_me> gah
[06:14] <Plutarch> IS HE EMPLOYING EFFECTIVE WRITTEN SKILLS, OR LACK THEREOF?
[06:14] <ajmitch> sexualpotatoes, Plutarch: stop that now
[06:14] <sexualpotatoes> HE IS HAVING ONE?
[06:14] <JoseStefan> i'm gonna write up some quick help on the xserver-xorg-core issue, gonna try and see if i can find the previous package on the ubuntu package website, brb
[06:14] <Plutarch> Yes, he's having one?
[06:14] <Plutarch> He had one just before.
[06:14] <sexualpotatoes> HE-SHE
[06:14] <Plutarch> Because he's the hoist with the moist
[06:14] <Plutarch> Uh, the host with the most
[06:14] <phargle> HAH YOU FORGOT THE CAPS
[06:15] <sexualpotatoes> YEAH NOOB
[06:15] <FirstStrike> finally
[06:15] <wweasel> lol
[06:15] <wweasel> no kick?
[06:15] <wweasel> a ban is useless without a good kick
[06:16] <oconnore> sethk: I don't know if it's supported, I do know that people have done it before. http://www.chaosreigns.com/adventures/entry.php?date=2002-10-13&num=01
[06:16] <sethk> oconnore, ok, so they didn't report the device not found error.
[06:16] <wweasel> well I'm gonna ask my question again since it was drowned out by the shouting conest.
[06:16] <wweasel> I just asked about NTFS write support...I have a similar but opposite question. I know ext2 write support is stable in Windows, but how good is ext3 at this point (I know in the past it was alpha, just as NTFS is in Linux now).
[06:16] <oconnore> yeah
[06:17] <FirstStrike> ext3 is fine
[06:17] <sethk> wweasel, I've not heard anything about it being a big problem, but then again I've only talked to a couple of people who have used it.
[06:17] <bimberi> wweasel: afaik ext3 is fine
[06:17] <FirstStrike> i've written about 100 gigs of files from windows to nix with no issues
[06:17] <rikai> Anyone have any idea why my friends 7.1 card doesnt recognize center or subwoofer?
[06:17] <JoseStefan> ok, anyone know the version number of the previous working xserver-xorg-core ?
[06:18] <IcemanV9> i wonder if fglrx supports your card, oconnore?
[06:18] <bimberi> JoseStefan: 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1
[06:18] <AnI> hey when i play real media it sounds super choppy on my xubuntu desktop
[06:18] <JoseStefan> bimberi, thanks
[06:19] <AnI> any one know how to fix it?
[06:19] <AnI> i even tried with realplayer installed
[06:19] <AnI> insteam of just gstreamer ugly
[06:19] <AnI> any idea?
[06:19] <bimberi> JoseStefan: np, btw '/msg ubotu xorgbug' :)
[06:20] <JoseStefan> bimberi, i was about to write such info :P guess someone was one step ahead of me
[06:20] <bimberi> !-xorgbug
[06:20] <ubotu> xorgbug has no aliases - added by bimberi on 2006-08-22 03:27:16
[06:20] <bimberi> ;)
[06:20] <ali1234> AnI: is it buffering? try increasing the buffer size...
[06:21] <wweasel> sethk, bimberi: From what I've read mounting ext3 read/write in Windows doesn't make use of the journal. Will this slowly bring down the performance of the ext3 partition?
[06:21] <AnI> ali im playing from harddisk
[06:21] <AnI> not steram
[06:21] <sethk> wweasel, I can't see why it would
[06:22] <wweasel> sethk: what does the journal do?
[06:22] <sethk> wweasel, using the journal slows things down slightly, to gain reliability
[06:22] <johnnybezak> what does aterm do that other terminals don't
[06:22] <sethk> wweasel, the journal contains info that lets the file system recover quickly from abnormal halts
[06:22] <sethk> wweasel, the journal info is redundent, and thus writing the journal has a small performance penalty
[06:23] <sethk> wweasel, If what you say is correct, I would be very careful to run fsck.ext3 after any abnormal shutdowns
[06:24] <wweasel> sethk: I am very sure that writing to ext3 in Windows doesn't make use of the journal. http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#acc_ext3
[06:24] <AnI> hey some times programs freeze in my xubuntu how do i terminate it forcefully?
[06:25] <sethk> wweasel, I have less faith in such things than you do.
[06:25] <_azrael__> AnI: killall -9 processname
[06:25] <sethk> wweasel, it's probably correct, but those things are often out of date
[06:25] <AnI> where?
[06:25] <johnnybezak> are there any IM clients that are text based?
[06:25] <wweasel> sethk: Meaning?
[06:25] <_azrael__> Ani: or kill -9 pid
[06:25] <_azrael__> AnI: In a terminal or command execution line.
[06:25] <_azrael__> jonnybezak: naim
[06:25] <AnI> from any?
[06:25] <_azrael__> AnI yeah.
[06:25] <AnI> like just ctrl alt F1?
[06:25] <Dev05> !tell Dev05 about DNS
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DNS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <rixth> wweasel, ext3 is still kinda dodgy in Windows, I'd avoid it. Sometimes Windows says "The drive X: is not formatted, would you like to format it now?"  Thanks :D
[06:26] <johnnybezak> _azrael_: cheers :D
[06:26] <CraZy675> I've destroyed my x11 i get the error "no screens found" when I try to startx
[06:26] <johnnybezak> anyone here use galeon?
[06:27] <rixth> johnlittle, tmsn is terminal MSN
[06:27] <rixth> er, that was foir johnnybezak
[06:27] <Darkprince> anybody know how to uninstall easyubuntu?
[06:27] <johnnybezak> rixth: you used it?
[06:28] <rixth> johnnybezak, I HAVE used it, but I use aMSN mostly.
[06:28] <johnnybezak> rixth: yeah im running an old mac and its slow as shit. so text based would be nice
[06:28] <_azrael__> johnnybezak: No MSN support with naim, but it does do aim and irc
[06:29] <johnnybezak> _azrael_: thnx
[06:29] <fdsd> usplash customization is broken on 6.06 right?
[06:29] <sethk> CraZy675, if you upgraded and caused this problem, there is a bad package that you can back out
[06:29] <sethk> CraZy675, if you did it by configuring, do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:30] <CraZy675> sethk: i did dkpg-reconfig..... that didn't do anything
[06:31] <sethk> CraZy675, it can't do nothing.
[06:31] <sethk> CraZy675, what did it do that you misdescribed as nothing?
[06:32] <CraZy675> sorry it ran as usual, but after it was finished i still get the "no screens found" error
[06:32] <sethk> CraZy675, that's hardly nothing.  :)   did you load updates today?
[06:32] <cius> anyone else have their xorg borked by the update today?
[06:32] <sethk> cius, yes, a ton of people
[06:32] <cius> cripes to bloomin 'ell
[06:33] <johnnybezak> i've got a package blocking up apt, it just hangs when trying to do it, i can't even remove it. any one got any ideas on how to get rid of it?
[06:33] <cius> I knew I shouldn't have rebooted
[06:33] <CraZy675> sethk: before I broke it I was trying to get mp3s working
[06:33] <cius> do we have any idea what the problem with xorg is?
[06:34] <sethk> !xorgbug
[06:34] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc). Bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[06:34] <sethk> sorry, I had to scroll up quite a way to find that.
[06:34] <cius> awesome, thanks
[06:34] <crimsun> LP is down for another 3 hrs, btw.
[06:34] <CraZy675> launchpad is 503
[06:34] <Madpilot> crimsun, just realized that... :|
[06:35] <CraZy675> apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper
[06:35] <CraZy675> i am told will fix it
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: How come?
[06:35] <CraZy675> can i chroot the mounted partition from live cd and try that?
[06:35] <sethk> CraZy675, that's another fix for the bad package update.  which is why I asked about whether you had updated that package today.
[06:35] <bimberi> !no xorgbugfix is <reply> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc).
[06:35] <ubotu> I'll remember that, bimberi
[06:36] <sastraxi> how does one get onto the rescue interface on the latest installation CD?
[06:36] <AnI> msg ubotu xorgbugfix
[06:36] <sastraxi> the on-cd help mentions all you have to do is boot: rescue
[06:36] <CraZy675> sethk: yes i've update everything pretty much every day
[06:36] <sastraxi> but that gives me a "rescue: image not found" error
[06:36] <sethk> CraZy675, I never install an update that hasn't been out for a couple of days
[06:37] <sethk> sastraxi, It isn't just rescue.  might be linux rescue
[06:37] <sethk> sastraxi, check the help carefully
[06:37] <sastraxi> did exactly what the help said
[06:37] <lyy> anyone here familiar with memory?
[06:37] <TokenBad> ok based on this error anyone know whats wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21357
[06:37] <bimberi> gah, wrong factoid!
[06:37] <sethk> sastraxi, you are talking about the dapper live cd?
[06:37] <sethk> lyy, I used to be, but I've forgotten
[06:37] <sastraxi> yeah, 6.06 I think
[06:37] <sastraxi> the "Desktop" installation cd
[06:38] <lyy> sethk: is it true most ram now a days are lead free?
[06:38] <sethk> sastraxi, might be obsolete help, it certainly works with breezy
[06:38] <sastraxi> ahh, too bad
[06:38] <sethk> lyy, they must be to be sold in certain places.
[06:38] <CraZy675> ok I'm going to go try this, thanks for your support
[06:38] <sastraxi> I'll have to brainstorm the reasons for an ubuntu install to go missing on my own then
[06:38] <sethk> lyy, so I believe that, yes, they are
[06:38] <lyy> sethk: is the US one of those placles?
[06:38] <lyy> i hope it is.
[06:38] <sethk> lyy, no, last I checked it was europe, with the us behind on that requirement
[06:39] <lyy> I just bought some patriot memory.
[06:39] <lyy> and i want to return it if it's not lead free
[06:39] <sethk> lyy, memory is produced in huge quantities and most manufacturers won't produce something that can't be sold everywhere
[06:39] <lyy> good point
[06:39] <meathead_> anyone here who knows how to install torrentflux
[06:39] <sethk> lyy, for a particular memory stick, you'll have to query the manufacturer
[06:39] <sethk> lyy, to be certain.
[06:40] <redsoxfan90-> mcjerry
[06:40] <sastraxi> does anyone believe that there might be an ubuntu-related reason to why my disk would magically stop booting one fine evening?
[06:40] <johnnybezak> sastraxi: it's stuffed
[06:40] <sastraxi> or is it likely the fact that it's an 8-year-old maxtor
[06:40] <johnnybezak> sastraxi: :)
[06:40] <sastraxi> you know
[06:40] <sastraxi> it was working fine like 10 minutes before
[06:40] <sastraxi> no strange noises
[06:40] <sastraxi> no write errors
[06:40] <johnnybezak> never had a drive die on you?
[06:40] <sastraxi> a good 30 megabytes per second
[06:40] <sastraxi> oh, I have
[06:41] <sastraxi> but it's usually full of bells and whistles
[06:41] <sastraxi> it doesn't let you forget that it's dying
[06:41] <sastraxi> I've never had the silent-but-deadly pulled on me
[06:41] <ali1234> agreed, i've never had a drive working fine, and then totally break one day
[06:41] <sethk> sastraxi, I would boot a cd and run the smart utilities and dump out the state of the drive, assuming it's an ide drive that supports S.M.A.R.T.
[06:41] <sethk> sastraxi, it's rare to get no warning, but not impossible.
[06:41] <sastraxi> sethk, good idea, but it's not SMART compatible
[06:42] <sethk> sastraxi, on occasion you can put a drive in the 'fridge for a couple of hours and get it to work for a while
[06:42] <johnnybezak> what was on the drive?
[06:42] <sastraxi> main ubuntu partition
[06:42] <sastraxi> fortunately my home is on a different drive
[06:42] <sastraxi> and fortunately it's a new install
[06:42] <sastraxi> I just wish I didn't have to go out and get a new hard drive is all
[06:42] <sethk> sastraxi, so all you've lost is time, and a bit of money, but no data
[06:43] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: migrating data for rosetta.
[06:43] <cius> sethk, thanks again for that ubotu reference
[06:43] <sastraxi> sethk: nice to see someone's looking on the bright side of life.
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: I see.
[06:43] <sastraxi> I can imagine it would be a pain to lose data
[06:44] <fernando> hey can someone help me i am a newbie with linux and i wanted to mess with audacity but it is not working i was wondering if someone could help me
[06:44] <johnnybezak> fernando: whats the matter
[06:45] <sastraxi> ok, new question.
[06:45] <fernando> it is telling me thati have some sort of error  hold on ill tell you exactly what it says
[06:45] <johnnybezak> don't copy paste it though :)
[06:45] <sastraxi> now I've got a 40-gigabyte hard drive (the one my /home was on) and I want to install ubuntu onto this, keeping my data
[06:46] <sastraxi> is that possible?
[06:46] <IcemanV9> !paste
[06:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:46] <johnnybezak> sastraxi: haha too tight to buy a new drive *shakes head* :)
[06:46] <sethk> sastraxi, if it isn't backed up, I wouldn't do it, but sure, it's possible
[06:46] <lyy> sethk: i'm freaking out man. hehe
[06:46] <lyy> i don't want lead poisoning
[06:46] <lyy> i use my computer alot
[06:46] <sastraxi> sethk: all it is, is a lot of windows applications that have been installed from the CD, messed around with to make them work under wine
[06:46] <fernando> there was an error nstalling the audio i/o layer and i will not be able to play or record audio
[06:46] <sastraxi> so once again all I'd lose is time
[06:47] <bhrobinson> hey. is there anyone that can help me with my Ubuntu? I rebooted and cannot get back into the GUI
[06:47] <sastraxi> bhrobinson, you're probably going to have to downgrade xserver-xorg-core
[06:47] <sastraxi> (EE) no devices detected, right
[06:47] <bhrobinson> sastraxi how do I do that?
[06:47] <sethk> lyy, I don't think you'll get lead poisoning, unless the thing literally melts down
[06:47] <bhrobinson> you got it
[06:47] <dibblego> I just installed 6.06.1/i386 and firefox is causing a segmentation fault - anything I can do to fix it?
[06:48] <Juhaz> lyy, then to be sure, don't eat the memory sticks
[06:48] <sastraxi> just a second, someone before told me how to
[06:48] <iceman> Anyone built a case mod
[06:48] <IcemanV9> what version of xserver-xorg-core is causing a problem? so i know to avoid it
[06:48] <sethk> IcemanV9, the most recent one
[06:49] <lyy> Juhaz: doesn't lead over time cause problems?
[06:49] <sastraxi> bhrobinson, "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[06:49] <sethk> lyy, not unless you eat it
[06:49] <lyy> man i'm so stupid.
[06:50] <typhoid> is it possible to change my username?
[06:50] <bhrobinson> all I know is IRC from command prompt sucks
[06:50] <sethk> lyy, people worry about lead paint because kids eat the paint chips and the crumbling paint can get into food
[06:50] <sethk> typhoid, of course, but why?
[06:50] <IcemanV9> xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1 is the latest version?
[06:50] <s|k> my cpu is at 125 C
[06:50] <s|k> :/
[06:50] <docgnome> vmware created two network interfaces that i don't want... how can i remove them?
[06:50] <bhrobinson> sastraxi, thanks. let me try that and I will be back in 10 minutes
[06:50] <Generic> s|k, I've seen ones at 150+
[06:50] <sastraxi> bhrobinson, thank the person that told me that!
[06:50] <typhoid> sethk i mean, my linux username.. because I don't want to see 'typhoid' when i log in @ school
[06:50] <bj_> Hey all, flash is locking up firefox. when I hit back. Closing a tab is OK, but the back button locks the browser when any flash is being displayed. I looked around and I had 2 versions of flash installed, so I fixed that and now only have 1, but it still does it. The only relevant thing I changed was a new mobo/cpu. I went dual core, and everything seems to be working OK besides this
[06:51] <Generic> of course, that was for about 2 seconds
[06:51] <sastraxi> I was banging my head for hours
[06:51] <Generic> then they exploded
[06:51] <s|k> Generic: it's an athlon amd64
[06:51] <IcemanV9> typhoid: /nick <new nick>
[06:51] <juanca777_> hello everyone
[06:51] <s|k> Generic: it doesn't seem to be doing anything bad
[06:51] <swarm> hmm
[06:51] <Generic> Dude, open some vents in that case
[06:51] <juanca777_> how can i know what is the version of the compiler used for a given kernel?
[06:51] <typhoid> IcemanV9: thanks!
[06:51] <swarm> xgl+compiz is neat
[06:51] <swarm> very nice eyecandy
[06:51] <Generic> s|k, What speed is it?
[06:51] <s|k> 1800 mhz 3000+
[06:51] <typhoid> Icemanv9... that's an irc command, not linux bash
[06:51] <Generic> yeah, that's WAY too high
[06:51] <bhrobinson> sdzfsdf
[06:51] <bhrobinson> a
[06:51] <bhrobinson> sorry
[06:52] <s|k> Generic: take off the sides?
[06:52] <Generic> I have a 3800+ at 2.5Ghz
[06:52] <bhrobinson> what is causing that issue?
[06:52] <s|k> there are no vents
[06:52] <Generic> s|k, yeah, take off the side panel
[06:52] <Generic> that'll drop it down a bit
[06:52] <IcemanV9> typhoid: oh! ha. sorry.
[06:52] <s|k> Generic: I have a ton of fans in it
[06:52] <meathead_> anyone here who knows how to install torrentflux
[06:52] <Generic> s|k, if you have no vents, that won't make a difference
[06:52] <meathead_> I get this error:
[06:52] <meathead_> Parse error: syntax error, unexpected '"', expecting T_STRING or T_VARIABLE or T_NUM_STRING in /var/www/tf/config.php on line 33
[06:52] <Generic> sudo apt-get install torrentflux?
[06:52] <Generic> meathead_, what's on line 33?
[06:53] <s|k> Generic: the vents are in the back and front, where the fans are
[06:53] <Generic> is one blowing and the other sucking?
[06:53] <s|k> Generic: yes
[06:53] <sethk> some people claim that removing the panels can make things run hotter, at least in critical areas, because the air flow is changed.  I don't buy that, personally.
[06:53] <Juhaz> lyy, the issue with lead in electronics is mostly that it can contaminate the soil and groundwater, etc. after it ends up in the landfills. not that it magically jumps from the computer into you
[06:53] <KrakensDen> I have a sound support question
[06:53] <Generic> might be the cabling is blocking air flow
[06:53] <KrakensDen> anyone feeling adventurous?
[06:53] <Generic> take the side panel of regardless
[06:53] <Generic> also, how old are the fans?
[06:54] <Generic> they may just not be very powerful
[06:54] <meathead_> Generic: $cfg["db_name"]  = "torrentflux"; // Name of the Database
[06:54] <sastraxi> KrakensDen, unfortunately someone right now is getting ready to go nuts on you for asking to ask a question :)
[06:54] <JoseStefan> meathead_ if that is PHP, that line looks invalid
[06:54] <Generic> meathead_, judging from that error, the quotation marks are throwing it off
[06:54] <sastraxi> what's up?
[06:54] <IcemanV9> !ask
[06:55] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:55] <KrakensDen> well, when I put my machine into hibernate mode
[06:55] <KrakensDen> and it comes back up
[06:55] <KrakensDen> sound support dies
[06:55] <s|k> Generic: just bought the big one
[06:55] <Generic> I blame arts!
[06:55] <s|k> in the back
[06:55] <KrakensDen> I went to runlevel 1, unloaded the drivers and reloaded them
[06:55] <Generic> s|k, you probably have messy cabling
[06:55] <KrakensDen> still no luck
[06:55] <KrakensDen> nothing is muted
[06:55] <s|k> Generic: yeah there is a lot of cables
[06:55] <s|k> are*
[06:55] <KrakensDen> dmesg |grep ALSA gives nothing
[06:55] <meathead_> then what about this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21364
[06:56] <Generic> s|k, I recommend you look into organizing your cabling
[06:56] <meathead_> the two lines before it work
[06:56] <Generic> buy some sleeving and what-not
[06:56] <KrakensDen> any takers?
[06:56] <Generic> then zip tie them together
[06:56] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, that's why I asked
[06:56] <docgnome> When I created some virtual machines with vmware it created two interfaces that I don't want. How can I remove them?
[06:56] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, I was wondering if there were any gurus in the house ;)
[06:56] <sastraxi> haha
[06:56] <cius> !xbugfix > cius
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xbugfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <sastraxi> well I am no guru
[06:57] <cius> cripes
[06:57] <KrakensDen> bollocks
[06:57] <KrakensDen> I hate posting on the forums
[06:57] <cius> what was that ubotu msg again?
[06:57] <sastraxi> but i'd try grepping dmesg with alsa in small letters if you haven't already
[06:57] <sethk> !xorgbug
[06:57] <Generic> KrakensDen, did you check if arts had taken over?
[06:57] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc).
[06:57] <Generic> try killing arts
[06:57] <KrakensDen> Generic, I run GNOME
[06:57] <sethk> cius, xorgbug,
[06:57] <Generic> Ah
[06:57] <cius> sethk, you're the man
[06:57] <Generic> Nutters, i keep forgetting this is #ubuntu
[06:57] <KrakensDen> Generic, and I went to runlevel 1 already
[06:57] <cius> !xorgbug > cius
[06:57] <KrakensDen> Generic, so everything has already gotten killed ;)
[06:57] <JoseStefan> meathead_, what editor are you using?
[06:57] <sastraxi> KrakensDen, what soundcard/driver?
[06:57] <vook> ok, I'm having strange issues.  I just did my bi-weekly (or so) apt-get dist-upgrade, which upgraded only a few x.org packages, and now X won't work at all.  I've downloaded and installed the latest nvidia packages.  The thing is, X doesn't work *at all*. Even the nv driver doesn't work.  X -configure gives me "No devices to configure, configuration failed"  Anyone???
[06:58] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, snd_hda_intel
[06:58] <sastraxi> and more importantly, what motherboard? a lot of them have broken ACPI
[06:58] <IcemanV9> add -i to grep; it'll ignores upper or lower cases
[06:58] <sastraxi> esp. in linux
[06:58] <Flannel> vook: you dist-upgrad bi-weekly?
[06:58] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, the support for my particular hardware kinda stinks
[06:58] <KrakensDen> the volume is really low
[06:58] <meathead_> JoseStefan: nano
[06:58] <KrakensDen> and the audio-in doesn't function
[06:58] <Generic> vook, apt-get upgrade?
[06:58] <JoseStefan> meathead_, got it
[06:58] <rgie> why i cant view pdf files?
[06:58] <JoseStefan> meathead_, line 33 is not the problem
[06:58] <KrakensDen> yeah, casing on the alsa doesn't matter
[06:59] <JoseStefan> meathead_, it's line 32, missing a quote
[06:59] <vook> Generic: eh, I always just do an "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:59] <sastraxi> KrakensDen, ick.
[06:59] <JoseStefan> meathead_, after quack
[06:59] <rgie> i need help
[06:59] <sastraxi> um, let's see
[06:59] <Flannel> vook: anyway, an X-org package is broken at the moment
[06:59] <Flannel> !tell vook about xorgbugfix
[06:59] <sastraxi> this is a bit of a stretch, but:
[06:59] <meathead_> JoseStefan: scoooore! you get a cookie.
[07:00] <sastraxi> KrakensDen, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Fix_Common_ACPI_Problems
[07:00] <KrakensDen> ebbeh
[07:00] <KrakensDen> I've been hoping not to have to mess with acpi :(
[07:00] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, thanks
[07:00] <progrock> I set up an ftp client where i can login and have access to my home directory.. is there a way to make links to other directories outside of my home folder?
[07:00] <KrakensDen> does it all look like magic to anyone else?
[07:01] <rgie> does anyone knows how can i view pdf files on my ubuntu?
[07:01] <KrakensDen> rgie, evince
[07:01] <vook> Flannel: ok, thanks, that's good to know.  I can deal with it for a while.  Thank goodness for BitchX, centericq, and w3m, and gpm, etc...
[07:01] <KrakensDen> rgie, or get adobe acrobat
[07:02] <KrakensDen> rgie, it runs on linux too ;)
[07:02] <wikijeff> How can I edit 'Places'?
[07:02] <Flannel> rgie: xpdf should be able to handle it (is it not installed by default?)
[07:02] <rgie> KrakensDen, apt-get?
[07:02] <IcemanV9> rgie: right-click on that file, select open with document viewer
[07:02] <JoseStefan> doesnt ubuntu have a pdf viewer on de default packages?
[07:02] <KrakensDen> I think so
[07:02] <KrakensDen> alt-f2 'evince'
[07:02] <progrock> can i mount something to 2 different places?
[07:02] <lyy> looks like ubuntu is kicking fedora's butt in the community size on freenode ;D
[07:02] <JoseStefan> mine views PDFs, but i dont know if installed something for that or it came included
[07:03] <KrakensDen>  I don't see it in the menus thought
[07:03] <KrakensDen> though
[07:03] <KrakensDen> that's bad
[07:03] <rgie> i mean on the browser it does not redirect to pdf
[07:03] <KrakensDen> ohh
[07:03] <KrakensDen> yeah
[07:03] <KrakensDen> install adobe acrobat
[07:03] <IcemanV9> evince is installed by default
[07:03] <KrakensDen> they have a browser plugin
[07:03] <lyy> ya
[07:03] <JoseStefan> i dont have browser plugin, i just download and dbl ckick
[07:03] <KrakensDen> is it in the add/remove applications list?
[07:03] <JoseStefan> click*
[07:03] <fernando> i am having a proble with audacity can anyone help me
[07:03] <rgie> yah i have evince installed but still cant
[07:03] <KrakensDen> rgie, applications->add remove
[07:04] <KrakensDen> rgie, make sure 'show commercial applications' is checked
[07:04] <JoseStefan> rgie, can you open files stored in your computer? i believe there is a sample PDF in examples
[07:04] <KrakensDen> rgie, search for 'adobe'
[07:04] <KrakensDen> JoseStefan, he wants a browser plugin
[07:04] <rgie> ok ill check it
[07:04] <JoseStefan> KrakensDen, just wanted to confirm PDF support in general (for his current setup)
[07:05] <KrakensDen> JoseStefan, evince is in the default install
[07:05] <vook> Flannel: hey, can you send that wget line again by chance?  It scrolled off before I had a chance to get it.
[07:05] <JoseStefan> hmm, just noticed there is no sample PDF in "Examples" i thought i had seen one
[07:05] <KrakensDen> actually adobe seems to get found without the 'show commercial applications' checkbox
[07:06] <rgie> i have already checked show comercial applications
[07:06] <Flannel> !tell vook about xorgbugfix
[07:06] <vook> thanks
[07:06] <meathead_> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ someone wanna tell me what this means?
[07:06] <meathead_> I'm not very good with mysql
[07:06] <IcemanV9> there is no browser plugin for evince -- it just asks you what to do with this file (pdf)
[07:07] <JoseStefan> !tell JoseStefan about xorgbug
[07:07] <JoseStefan> meathead_, that URL does not respond
[07:07] <KrakensDen> gentoo has some great docs
[07:08] <haasteem> !upgrade
[07:08] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[07:08] <IcemanV9> JoseStefan: you can /msg ubotu xorgbug -- then you can ask more in query :)
[07:08] <JoseStefan> IcemanV9, i was testing the "tell" feature
[07:09] <PenguinOfDoom> Why isn't the kernel source package updated nearly as often as kernel images?
[07:09] <johnnybezak> anyone here use irssi>
[07:09] <johnnybezak> ?
[07:09] <KrakensDen> yup
[07:09] <KrakensDen> but I could never figure out how to close windows
[07:09] <Flannel>  /wc
[07:09] <johnnybezak> know a way to turn off the server messages of ppl levaing and joining?
[07:09] <ali1234> PenguinOfDoom: because we arn't supposed to compile our own kernels :(
[07:10] <KrakensDen> ali1234, a bad attitude, imho
[07:10] <IcemanV9> johnnybezak: /set irc_conf_mode 1
[07:10] <GR4SS> error xorg-core
[07:10] <KrakensDen> ali1234, they should just try and make it easy if you want to, I don't know, switch to the vanilla 2.6 kernel
[07:10] <JoseStefan> most kernel images are slight modifications, and come from the same source, all you might see is a new diff file
[07:10] <Flannel> johnnybezak: From all channels?
[07:10] <johnnybezak> IcemanV9: hmm tried it, still getting -!- blah blah just quit
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> johnnybezak: /ignore #ubuntu parts joins or something like that.
[07:11] <johnnybezak> Flannel: yeah
[07:11] <ali1234> KrakensDen: i don;t want a vanilla kernel, i want the ubuntu kernel, with this patch i've just written, wich makes my dvb card work, maybe
[07:11] <JoseStefan> johnnybezak, should be somewhere within the options of your client
[07:11] <IcemanV9> johnnybezak: are u using xchat?
[07:11] <johnnybezak> using irssi
[07:11] <Flannel> johnnybezak: /ignore JOINS PARTS should do it
[07:12] <fernando> johnnybezak: i removed it and re--install it but still the same problem do you think is the way i have my sound setup
[07:12] <johnnybezak> fernando: whats the prob. can't you get sound
[07:12] <KrakensDen> ali1234, what did you write the patch against?
[07:12] <IcemanV9> johnnybezak: ah. that explains. dunno about irssi, only xchat/xchat-gnome
[07:12] <fernando> yeah
[07:12] <fernando> but it is telling me that i cant record
[07:13] <johnnybezak> Flannel: hmm i just got -!- gilan has joined, think it might be the caps?
[07:13] <johnnybezak> fernando: but can you hear sound?
[07:13] <lyy> i use irssi
[07:13] <rgie> why i cant view pdf files from browser, when i clicked the links it redirects me to a blank pages?
[07:13] <fernando> from my media i can
[07:13] <ali1234> KrakensDen: against? the patch only modifies two array indexes in one source file, which hasn't changed since 2.6.15 to the latest
[07:13] <lyy> johnnybezak: what you trying to do?
[07:14] <ardchoille> johnnybezak: /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS QUITS
[07:14] <KrakensDen> ali1234, ah, nevermind :P
[07:14] <IcemanV9> rgie: did it prompt you?
[07:14] <KrakensDen> I  can't believe I'm debugging my hardware vendor's code
[07:14] <KrakensDen> bloody hell
[07:14] <lyy> i just hate that
[07:14] <ali1234> tell me about it :(
[07:14] <IcemanV9> rgie: or asks you what to do with file?
[07:14] <rgie> IcemanV9, nope it doesnt give me an option
[07:14] <ardchoille> KrakensDen: send them a check ;)
[07:14] <KrakensDen> ardchoille, too late
[07:15] <lyy> debug it and then crack it
[07:15] <ardchoille> haha
[07:15] <rgie> IcemanV9, it redirects me to a blank page
[07:15] <lyy> and then reverse engineer it and give it for free
[07:15] <KrakensDen> ardchoille, if I figure it out and submit the modifications, figure I could get a check?
[07:15] <johnnybezak> lyy: get rid of those join leave messages
[07:15] <ardchoille> KrakensDen: Don't send them anything until they agree to pay
[07:15] <fernando> now it's telling me i have a problem installing audio
[07:15] <ardchoille> johnnybezak: /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS QUITS  will do it, I use that myself
[07:16] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, you have experience debugging dsdt?
[07:16] <johnnybezak> ardchoille: just did it, so i'll wait and see. thnx :)
[07:16] <IcemanV9> rgie: hm. odd. it does that to me -- redirects me to a blank page, pops the dialog asking me what to do with it, then i click "Document Viewer" and evince starts up.
[07:17] <rgie> IcemanV9, yah but it doesnt giveme an option, what should i do to fix these
[07:17] <kingrayray> is xserver borked or something? i just updated from a fresh install and now X won't start
[07:18] <Elda> Evening everyone :)
[07:18] <KrakensDen> kingrayray, dpkg --configure xorg?
[07:18] <ardchoille> kingrayray: yes, the xorg update is borken
[07:18] <ardchoille> KrakensDen: that won't work
[07:18] <fernando> johnnybezak: now it is telling me i have an error initializing audio
[07:18] <IcemanV9> rgie: dunno. never happened to me before. if it did, then I would know the answer. let me see if I can find it.
[07:18] <KrakensDen> ardchoille, it's one of them packages
[07:18] <rgie> IcemanV9, ok tenks
[07:18] <ardchoille> xserver-xorg-core is the broken one
[07:18] <KrakensDen> ardchoille, thats the one I meant :P
[07:18] <kingrayray> how do i revert to the old one, ardchoille ?
[07:18] <n2k> anyone else having gnome-terminal with multiple tabs crap out on em?
[07:19] <Flannel> !tell kingrayray about xorgbugfix
[07:19] <ardchoille> !xorgbugfix > kingrayray
[07:19] <kingrayray> Flannel: thanks =)
[07:19] <kingrayray> lol
[07:19] <kingrayray> and ardchoille =P
[07:19] <vook> Flannel: thanks again, worked like a charm
[07:21] <Jenga> hey. has anybody here used openbox?
[07:22] <IcemanV9> rgie: edit > prefs -- downloads tab, click 'view & edit actions' in download actions section
[07:23] <rgie> IcemanV9, ill check it
[07:23] <rgie> IcemanV9, im here
[07:24] <KrakensDen> Jenga, yes
[07:24] <fernando> johnnybezark: so what do you think i shoul do about my audio because it is telling me error initializing audio
[07:24] <rgie> IcemanV9, whats shalli do next>?
[07:25] <Jenga> KrakensDen, how does it compare to Xfce?
[07:25] <johnnybezak> fernando: look in audacity and see if you can change your audio system, there is prolly a few different options to try there
[07:25] <ardchoille> Jenga: I use openbox as my window manager in gnome
[07:25] <KrakensDen> Jenga, well, it may be a bit of a shock
[07:25] <fernando> ok thanks
[07:25] <KrakensDen> Jenga, it has a root window menu and dock support
[07:25] <Jenga> pretty bare eh?
[07:25] <ardchoille> Jenga: You used fluxbox?
[07:25] <KrakensDen> Jenga, and that's about it ;)
[07:25] <Jenga> no
[07:25] <Moodles> I'm curious, is there more games bundled with the ubuntu 5.01 install distro or the ubuntu 6.06 install distro (since there is only 1 cd for both install and live) ?
[07:26] <KrakensDen> Jenga, although it has a fairly cool feature where you can have dynamic menus
[07:26] <Jenga> haven't use flux. heard it's clunky
[07:26] <IcemanV9> rgie: just add PDF action - like open with evince or adobe reader
[07:26] <KrakensDen> Jenga, never really found a use for it though
[07:26] <carthik> Moodles, some games come with the desktop, some are in the repository
[07:26] <KrakensDen> Jenga, it's very, very minimalist. Try it if you don't scare easy
[07:26] <KrakensDen> Jenga, right click gets you a menu, and download obconf too :)
[07:27] <carthik> Moodles, see http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/games/ for comprehensive list of games related packages
[07:27] <Jenga> I'm just looking for a way to stop hanging and crashing so much and I like a minimalist look
[07:27] <fernando> johnnybezak, no options are listed
[07:27] <KrakensDen> Jenga, it may be your hardware
[07:27] <ardchoille> Jenga: If you're going to use openbox, then I recommend installing obmenu, it provides a nice gui for editing the ob menus: http://obmenu.sourceforge.net/
[07:27] <rgie> IcemanV9, theres no add options here
[07:28] <KrakensDen> Jenga, linux is very intolerant of bad hardware
[07:28] <Jenga> Pretty sure it is the hardware but max memory is 256 and I have that already
[07:28] <johnnybezak> Jenga: flux is nice
[07:28] <KrakensDen> Jenga, give it a try, you might like it
[07:28] <Jenga> thanks. think I will now
[07:28] <KrakensDen> Jenga, but 'some configuration needed' will apply ;)
[07:29] <Jenga> of course
[07:29] <ardchoille> Jenga: If you don't like it, you can find a nice long list of other window managers at: http://xwinman.org
[07:29] <IcemanV9> rgie: omgoodness. your right. sheesh. let me see.
[07:29] <JoseStefan> i heard ubuntu-server is very minimalist
[07:29] <ardchoille> KrakensDen: "some assembly required" ? lol
[07:29] <Jenga> I need a gui
[07:29] <rgie> IcemanV9, *winks
[07:30] <trpr> don't we all have our favorites :) *pushes the WindowMaker*
[07:30] <carthik> JoseStefan, yeah. So?
[07:30] <ardchoille> trpr: That's another nice one :)
[07:30] <carthik> favorite WM discussions maybe more appropriate for #ubuntu-oftopic
[07:30] <carthik> offtopic I mean
[07:30] <ardchoille> true
[07:30] <Jenga> sure. sorry for the derail
[07:31] <Jenga> thank you people
[07:31] <msoul> okie, whenever I sudo ap.-get install fluxbox it installs 0.9.14
[07:31] <msoul> any idea why?
[07:31] <carthik> you're welcome Jenga - wasn't meant to ridicule or anything of that sort :)
[07:31] <Jenga> no worries
[07:31] <ardchoille> msoul: Because that's the highest version in the repos?
[07:32] <epitron> did anyone else upgrade their Xserver and have it stop working?
[07:32] <KrakensDen> yes
[07:32] <metaosp> I just updated the xorg package and reboot, the xwindow doesn't work anymore.
[07:32] <msoul> ardchoille: okie I just wanted to be sure, found this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116759
[07:32] <IcemanV9> rgie: i don't know. sorry. :/
[07:32] <epitron> awesome :D
[07:32] <carthik> metaosp, whats the error message?
[07:32] <epitron> KrakensDen: good to know it's a common thing
[07:32] <msoul> should I grab the tarball and follow exactly what I found I here or?
[07:32] <KrakensDen> I don't know the ubotu command
[07:32] <ardchoille> epitron: yes, lots of folks
[07:32] <KrakensDen> !tell carthik xorgbugfix
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell carthik xorgbugfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <metaosp> device not found
[07:32] <KrakensDen> that should work
[07:32] <KrakensDen> arg
[07:33] <epitron> ardchoille: i wonder why they don't roll it back
[07:33] <carthik> KrakensDen, my xorg is fine, thank you :)
[07:33] <KrakensDen> er
[07:33] <KrakensDen> the other guy
[07:33] <metaosp> how can I roll it back?
[07:33] <epitron> KrakensDen: i need the bugfix thx :)
[07:33] <KrakensDen> epitron, wget http://archive.ubunt1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[07:33] <rxt> :-)
[07:33] <epitron> KrakensDen: ah.. thanks.. is that from the forums/
[07:33] <Flannel> !tell metaosp about xorgbugfix
[07:34] <KrakensDen> no idea
[07:34] <msoul> v1.0rc2 that's the latest version
[07:34] <linkslice> i'm trying to install netatalk but don't see it in the packages list...how do I add a list?
[07:34] <epitron> !tell me about xorgbugfix
[07:34] <KrakensDen> there is a different set of instructions if you use ppc or amd64 though
[07:34] <KrakensDen> want those?
[07:34] <rgie> IcemanV9, npz tenks anyways
[07:34] <ardchoille> msoul: Thanks for that link, nice info there
[07:34] <ubuntu> yo guys
[07:34] <tomasz27> R U guys having probs with XSERVER?
[07:34] <msoul> ardchoille: sure! so I could follow what's in the link I guess
[07:35] <carthik> !tell tomasz27 about xorgbugfix
[07:35] <epitron> KrakensDen: uhm... yes, i'm using amd64 actually
[07:35] <ardchoille> msoul: I'm going to do that tonight :)
[07:35] <tomasz27> I got it
[07:35] <Flannel> ajmitch: Think you could put something in the topic? ;)
[07:35] <ubuntu> Flannel: hi
[07:35] <msoul> ardchoille: I'll do that I just wanted to be sure
[07:35] <tomasz27> I restored to the prev version
[07:35] <IcemanV9> rgie: sudo apt-get install acroread mozilla-acroread -- restart fx ... last option that i can think of.
[07:35] <epitron> KrakensDen: i'm guessing it's just _amd64 instead of i386 right? :)
[07:35] <ardchoille> msoul: Yeah, from what I remember about it, that links provides good info on how to get it installed and tweaked.
[07:36] <KrakensDen> !tell epitron about xorgbugfix-amd64
[07:36] <Flannel> Howdy ubuntu
[07:36] <carthik> KrakensDen, use /msg ubotu <whatever>     to see if it works first
[07:36] <rgie> IcemanV9, it says already the newest version
[07:36] <Flannel> nah, if it doesn't work, you'll get a messgae here: as so
[07:37] <epitron> KrakensDen: it worked because you added "about" this time ;)
[07:37] <KrakensDen> carthik, thanks
[07:37] <Flannel> !tell KrakensDen about somethignelse
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about somethignelse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <IcemanV9> rgie: restart fx
[07:37] <epitron> KrakensDen: and yes, it was just _amd64 instead of _i386 \o/
[07:37] <ubuntu> Flannel: i'm doing good, how bout u/
[07:37] <ubuntu> IcemanV9:  what is fx for ?
[07:37] <msoul> ardchoille: :-) okie cause I did lotsa mistakes before :/
[07:37] <KrakensDen> epitron, I was just checking :)
[07:37] <msoul> Brb
[07:37] <Flannel> ubuntu: doing fine.  you have a question/problem/whatever?
[07:38] <rgie> IcemanV9, should i change directory?
[07:38] <ubuntu> Flannel: well actually i do
[07:38] <ubuntu> Flannel:  did u have problems setting up lilo on ubuntu?
[07:38] <ubuntu> i know default is grub
[07:39] <Flannel> ubuntu: ubuntu uses grub by default, if you want lilo you'll need to install from the alternate ISO, I'm not sure if the liveCD installer has an option
[07:39] <ubuntu> Flannel:  i did download it
[07:39] <IcemanV9> fx == firefox
[07:39] <epitron> why would you want lilo?!
[07:39] <epitron> that's so 1998
[07:39] <ubuntu> IcemanV9: ty
[07:39] <IcemanV9> rgie: for ??
[07:40] <ubuntu> epitron: sure it is , but was working on it
[07:40] <epitron> weird
[07:40] <ubuntu> epitron: i'm trying to dual boot
[07:40] <rgie> IcemanV9, start fx? it says command not found
[07:40] <ubuntu> let see how it goes
[07:40] <ubuntu> rgie: try firefox
[07:40] <Flannel> ubuntu: you need to do an expert install to get to the option, if I remember correctly
[07:40] <ubuntu> or mozilla-firefox
[07:41] <IcemanV9> rgie: fx is abbr for firefox. sorry. just restart the browser.
[07:41] <ubuntu> Flannel: ok ty
[07:41] <siriusnova> the new Xorg update is broken
[07:41] <siriusnova> just in case anyone doesnt know :P
[07:41] <rgie> IcemanV9, oic
[07:42] <s|k> how can broken updates slip through?
[07:42] <ubuntu> any1 here uses dual boot, 2 linux os?
[07:42] <epitron> does anyone have access to set the topic?
[07:42] <epitron> it would be good if someone wrote that xorgfix thing in the topic :)
[07:42] <KrakensDen> s|k, no real testing?
[07:42] <IcemanV9> rgie: lots of ppl use ff and firefox developers want us to use fx instead of ff. that's a short story.
[07:42] <ardchoille> I know I can use "apt-cache search fluxbox" to see if fluxbox is in the repos, but how do I see which version it is?
[07:42] <epitron> something like: "X IS BROKEN! type <whatever> to fix"
[07:42] <KrakensDen> hopefully that will get fixed soon though
[07:42] <s|k> KrakensDen: shouldn't be released then
[07:42] <Flannel> epitron: madpilot is coming to save the day ;)
[07:42] <KrakensDen> s|k, too late
[07:42] <KrakensDen> s|k, you're right though
[07:42] <epitron> woo!
[07:43] <epitron> fix it up madpilot!
[07:43] <s|k> my slackware system never has this problem
[07:43] <s|k> :/
[07:43] <OsirisX11> hi! anyone know of an media player that will play my uncompressed rars as i download them? in windows i could just drop them in winamp, it would ignore the extension and just parse it as mp3. I want the same thing in linux.
[07:43] <ubuntu> slackware is nice
[07:43] <natural20> so firefox won't load certain pages (yahoo groups, MyEbay).  the connection times out. any suggestions?
[07:43] <epitron> s|k: slackware also doesn't have the problem where you have all this awesome software that's easy to install \o/
[07:43] <Flannel> s|k: I'm sure policies will be reviewed because of this
[07:43] <ubuntu> i'm planning to install it, it uses lilo by default
[07:43] <ubuntu> :)
[07:43] <s|k> no gnome apps in slackware though
[07:43] <s|k> Flannel: it's not the first time
[07:43] <ubuntu> epitron:  it has slapt-get ;)
[07:43] <s|k> Flannel: happened right after dapper was released
[07:43] <fernando> johnnybezak, ok my audio work's for xmms but i have a problem iniitalising audio for audacity
[07:43] <epitron> ubuntu: haha, really?
[07:43] <ubuntu> epitron:  yes sitr
[07:43] <ardchoille> madewokherd: Thank you :)
[07:44] <ubuntu> sir*
[07:44] <s|k> epitron: yes, actually it does
[07:44] <s|k> epitron: it's called slackpkg
[07:44] <ardchoille> Madpilot: Thank you :)
[07:44] <epitron> well SHUT MY MOUTH!
[07:44] <ubuntu> s|k:  i use slapt-get to download
[07:44] <triz0> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/cgi-bin/join.txt
[07:44] <epitron> yes, thank ya kindly madewokherd
[07:44] <epitron> and Madpilot
[07:44] <s|k> ubuntu: that too!
[07:44] <madewokherd> you're welcome
[07:44] <freddy> hello anyone could help me out with xgl?
[07:44] <s|k> no gnome aps
[07:44] <epitron> is that the real maddox?
[07:45] <ubuntu> s|k:  have u dual booted it with ubuntu?
[07:45] <ardchoille> madewokherd: lol, sory about that
[07:45] <s|k> I wish I could use epiphany
[07:45] <madewokherd> :)
[07:45] <rgie> IcemanV9, still doesnt work, im gonna ask firefox about this
[07:45] <OsirisX11> freddy: #ubuntu-xgl
[07:45] <s|k> ubuntu: I did for a while with a windows os
[07:45] <ubuntu> s|k:  browser?
[07:45] <s|k> ubuntu: yes
[07:45] <Zerojakel> hello
[07:45] <ubuntu> s|k:  y cant u use it?
[07:45] <fernando> can anyone help me with audacity
[07:45] <s|k> ubuntu: slackware doesn't have any gnome series binaries
[07:45] <IcemanV9> rgie: hope u get it working.
[07:45] <OsirisX11> fernando: just ask.
[07:45] <ubuntu> i saw ephinay in synatpic
[07:45] <Papageno> Is there an easy way to change my user name?
[07:45] <ubuntu> let me chk
[07:46] <fernando> i have problems initialising my audio
[07:46] <ubuntu> Papageno: usermod command
[07:46] <s|k> ubuntu: slackware doesn't use synatpic
[07:46] <Zerojakel> i want configure my apt-build how i do?
[07:46] <rgie> IcemanV9, yah i need it ASAP to test my project... sob tenks for the oncern
[07:46] <ubuntu> s|k: oh ok ur on slackware right now, though u were on ubntu, sorry my error
[07:46] <Papageno> ubuntu: Does it have any reprecussions?
[07:46] <s|k> ubuntu: epiphany comes by default with ubuntu :)
[07:46] <OsirisX11> fernando: try "i cannot initialize audio in audacity, (error message)"
[07:47] <ubuntu> s|k: yes
[07:47] <Madpilot> s|k, Epiphany isn't installed by default, but it is available
[07:47] <s|k> Madpilot: it was installed by default for me
[07:47] <s|k> it's just not the default browser
[07:47] <ubuntu> Papageno:  just keep chk on setting for home folder , ownership :)
[07:47] <Madpilot> s|k, epiph the browser? You sure?
[07:47] <s|k> Madpilot: yep
[07:47] <fernando> i cannot initialize audio in audacity
[07:47] <freddy> firefox comes by default
[07:47] <Madpilot> odd
[07:47] <OsirisX11> how can I play my uncompressed mp3 rars as i download them? in windows i could just drop them in winamp, it would ignore the extension and just parse it as mp3. I want the same thing in linux.
[07:47] <s|k> Madpilot: comes with gnome, afaik
[07:47] <KrakensDen> s|k, no it isn't
[07:48] <IcemanV9> s|k: are you sure your on ubuntu?
[07:48] <freddy> it isnt
[07:48] <KrakensDen> s|k, this is a new install, it doesn't have it
[07:48] <s|k> KrakensDen: it came with mine
[07:48] <freddy> it doesnt come with gnome
[07:48] <KrakensDen> s|k, maybe on older versions
[07:48] <ubuntu> OsirisX11: download rar for linux
[07:48] <KrakensDen> but not with dapper
[07:48] <freddy> well then you have a REALLY old version of gnome running
[07:48] <s|k> er, well it came on breezy, and it was still there when I updated
[07:48] <s|k> epiphany > firefox so it should tbh
[07:48] <s|k> what about the help file viewer
[07:48] <s|k> isn't that epiphany?
[07:49] <Madpilot> s|k, no, it wasn't installed by default on Breezy either, I remember installing it.
[07:49] <freddy> no
[07:49] <freddy> its firefox
[07:49] <fernando> osirisXll: i cannot initialize audio in audacity (error message)
[07:49] <ubuntu> Madpilot: ur right
[07:49] <Madpilot> s|k, no, Yelp uses Firefox for rendering
[07:49] <s|k> okay well, it came by default with mine
[07:49] <s|k> because I never heard of epiphany before I tried ubuntu
[07:49] <s|k> it's not like I would have installed it
[07:49] <freddy> i used to come with ubuntu
[07:49] <IcemanV9> no it isn't installed by default on hoary, breezy or dapper.
[07:49] <freddy> but long time ago
[07:49] <KrakensDen> Madpilot, you mean gecko
[07:49] <haasteem> hi, i want to start upgrading to breezy but upddate-manager gives a long list of packages that it can't upgrade. is this a big problem?
[07:49] <KrakensDen> Madpilot, they all use gecko
[07:49] <KrakensDen> epiphany, firefox, mozilla/seamonkey
[07:49] <Madpilot> KrakensDen, ff/gecko/same thing ;)
[07:49] <natural20> so firefox won't load certain pages (yahoo groups, MyEbay).  the connection times out. any suggestions?
[07:49] <OsirisX11> i answered my own question: xmms and inside audio input options change it to look at content only
[07:50] <KrakensDen> Madpilot, not if you're making a distinction between that and epiphany :P
[07:50] <ali1234> natural20: i had that problem before
[07:50] <s|k> epiphany is very different from firefox
[07:50] <s|k> but yes it uses gecko
[07:50] <Madpilot> KrakensDen, well, they're all inferior to Opera, so I don't pay much attention :)
[07:50] <KrakensDen> it's just a shell for gecko
[07:50] <ubuntu> opera is nice too:)
[07:50] <freddy> noone on ubuntu-xgl...anyone could give me a hand with xgl?
[07:50] <KrakensDen> firefox is a XUL shell
[07:50] <freddy> its just a simple thing
[07:50] <ali1234> natural20: if firefox ever failed to load a page because of internet problems, it would never ever load that page again
[07:50] <KrakensDen> epiphany is a GTK one
[07:51] <KrakensDen> there's a demo to write one in pyGTK I've seen
[07:51] <ali1234> natural20: in the end i deleted my firefox profile and started again
[07:51] <KrakensDen> it's like 20 lines
[07:51] <KrakensDen> back, forward, address bar, it has everything
[07:51] <natural20> alil234 it doesn't load, ever, is that what you mean?
[07:51] <TooTallJones> hey folks
[07:51] <ali1234> natural20: yes, after internet came back up, the page still would not load
[07:51] <ubuntu> 1 more small query i have , any1 here uses console broswers like w3m or elinks?
[07:51] <fernando> i have an (error message) i cannot initialize audio in audacity.
[07:52] <ubuntu> fernando:  make sure it aint in use by other apps
[07:52] <ali1234> natural20: although it did not time out, it just loaded up a blank page
[07:52] <haasteem> hi, i want to start upgrading to breezy but upddate-manager gives a long list of packages that it can't upgrade. is this a big problem?
[07:52] <TooTallJones> looking for someone to help troubleshoot visontek xtasy ATI 9550.  3d screen savers lag and freeze up the comp overnight.  Just overall slow performance
[07:52] <ubuntu> KrakensDen:  which one?
[07:52] <natural20> alil234 can you walk me through your solution? i am a complete linux noob
[07:53] <lupine_85> whew. 3 hours to sort out one wireless problem :D
[07:53] <Flannel> haasteem: make sure you re-install any large meta packages, like ubuntu-desktop, before upgrading
[07:53] <ubuntu> natural20: nice, me too :)
[07:53] <ubuntu> lupine_85:  wake up man, ur drooling over ur keyboard :o
[07:53] <natural20> ubuntu how is that possible, you're on here helping people!
[07:53] <haasteem> Flannel: but update-manager telling me it can't upgrade some packages is a result of that?
[07:54] <TooTallJones> i've tried fglrx, ati, and the ati drivers from the ati website.
[07:54] <ali1234> natural20: close firefox, mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-backup, restart firefox
[07:54] <lupine_85> bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt
[07:54] <KrakensDen> ubuntu, lynx and links
[07:54] <ubuntu> natural20: i'm here to learn t:)
[07:54] <lupine_85> ow!
[07:54] <msoul> I'm installing fluxbox and I don't know why I get these msgs: gzip
[07:54] <ubuntu> if i can , i'll help
[07:54] <fernando> ubuntu: i closed everithing that uses sound but when i try to open audacity it tell's me i have an error initializing my audio
[07:54] <ubuntu> KrakensDen:  aah kool
[07:54] <msoul> tarzeau: error exit delayed from previous errors
[07:54] <msoul> any idea?
[07:54] <gbauman> Hello... I'd like to get my console (not X) to use my laptop's native resolution, 1440x900. Does anyone know offhand what kernel parameters I need? Something like vga=xxx I think
[07:54] <natural20> alil234, do i need to do that in the directory firefox is in? do i need to use sudo?
[07:54] <lupine_85> fernando: did you kill the audio daemon as well (arts for kde; esd for gnome)
[07:55] <ali1234> no, and no
[07:55] <TooTallJones> anyone want to help me troubleshoot this graphics card? =(
[07:56] <ubuntu> KrakensDen: try elink if u use console too :)
[07:56] <fernando> lupine_85: how do i do that
[07:56] <ubuntu> nice small app
[07:56] <msoul> E: couldn't find package fluxbox
[07:56] <ubuntu> e:?
[07:56] <KrakensDen> ubuntu, I mean elinks :P.
[07:56] <Flannel> e: is for error.  msoul do you have universe enabled?
[07:56] <ubuntu> KrakensDen:  lol
[07:56] <ubuntu> see i'm a new bie :(
[07:56] <ubuntu> that cant spell right
[07:56] <ubuntu> haha
[07:56] <msoul> Flannel: I'm not sure, how can I do that?
[07:57] <Flannel> !tell msoul about universe
[07:57] <docgnome> I'm trying to set up my ubuntu box to do nat and internet sharing from my modem connection (ppp0) and my local network (eth0) I'm using guarddog and guidedog but guidedog doesn't seem to be doing any good. When I tell guidedog to enable routing and enable ip masquerade, it dosn't seem to change anything.
[07:58] <ubuntu> i dont like guard dog , never worked here :(
[07:58] <ubuntu> firestarter :)
[07:58] <docgnome> i can't get firestarter to work for me either :-\
[07:58] <msoul> Flannel: I even tried to install fluxbox (tarball) yet I failed tar: error exit delayed from previous errors
[07:58] <ubuntu> docgnome: ouch :(
[07:58] <IcemanV9> TooTallJones: did you try xorg driver for ati card? 3d does work on my lowly laptop ati card -- mobility m6 ly
[07:58] <Flannel> msoul: fluxbox is in the repositories, no reason not to use that one
[07:59] <TooTallJones> Yeah I did
[07:59] <TooTallJones> none of them seem to change anything
[07:59] <shmho> Hello
[07:59] <docgnome> ubuntu: ... i lied. it just worked. like magic
[07:59] <docgnome> woot!
[07:59] <fdsd> hey guys, how do I apt-get a older package? and how do I find older packages of a deb?
[08:00] <shmho> Is there anyone has a problem with xserver-xorg-core now? I have updated my kubuntu than it doesn't work
[08:00] <lupine_85> Anyone with a spare 5 minutes, a bit of developer experience (only a bit :D) and a small bit of know-how fancy reviewing an 18K .odt file for me?
[08:00] <|thunder> so did everyone get a notification of a xserver update earlier ?
[08:00] <IcemanV9> TooTallJones: glxinfo |grep direct -- if it says yes, then you have 3d accler
[08:00] <Flannel> shmho: check the topic
[08:00] <lupine_85> it's a few initial thoughs on an automatic wlan config utility
[08:00] <lupine_85> thoughts*
[08:00] <Madpilot> |thunder, yes
[08:00] <ubuntu> docgnome: lol
[08:00] <lupine_85> that I'm planning on writing
[08:00] <shmho> Flannel: thanks :)
[08:00] <TooTallJones> direct rendering: No
[08:00] <TooTallJones> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[08:00] <ubuntu> msoul:  y not use blackbox?
[08:01] <jamin> can someone help me with skype
[08:01] <jamin> http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/
[08:01] <|thunder> that update busted x for me, says
[08:01] <|thunder> i had to reinstall
[08:01] <Flannel> !tell jamin about skype
[08:01] <jamin> which on is ubuntu? debian correct
[08:01] <bhrobinson> can anyone tell me what the deal is with xserver-xorg-core not allowing me to open XServer?
[08:01] <Flannel> |thunder: no, just downgrade, check the topic
[08:01] <heavydrinker> can we curse in this channel?
[08:01] <lupine_85> only quietly ;)
[08:01] <IcemanV9> TooTallJones: ah. it is not supported then. i don't know what to say more. never heard of your card, tho.
[08:01] <heavydrinker> darn
[08:01] <msoul> ubuntu: What are the differents?
[08:01] <TooTallJones> hm
[08:02] <lupine_85> oh, poop
[08:02] <ubuntu> msoul: just a bit give it a try sudo apt-get install blackbox
[08:02] <|thunder> ahh. thanks Flannel didnt see that
[08:02] <bhrobinson> can anyone tell me what the deal is with xserver-xorg-core not allowing me to open XServer?
[08:02] <s|k> okay
[08:02] <lupine_85> a ubuntu developer messed up
[08:02] <s|k> I just started my computer
[08:02] <msoul> ubuntu do you have a screenshot?
[08:02] <Flannel> bhrobinson: check the topic for the fix
[08:02] <shmho> bhrobinson: topic!
[08:02] <s|k> and it says the cpu temp is 127 c
[08:02] <s|k> is that even possible?
[08:02] <IcemanV9> TooTallJones: try to post it in ubuntuforums to see if anyone can help ya
[08:03] <bhrobinson> already fixed but downgrading...
[08:03] <shmho> bhrobinson: all the guys have that problem now. :) including me
[08:03] <DarkMageZ> s|k, celcius or F?
[08:03] <|thunder> lupine_85, no way. is it gonna ask me again ?
[08:03] <ubuntu> msoul: not at moment , google it
[08:03] <TooTallJones> alright, thanks IcemanV9
[08:03] <msoul> k
[08:03] <bhrobinson> I am just wondering how to keep people from trying to install the auto update
[08:03] <|thunder> i mean, if I do a dist-upgrade right now will it bust x again ?
[08:03] <Flannel> bhrobinson: you could pin the package temporarily
[08:03] <ubuntu> brb
[08:03] <s|k> DarkMageZ: c
[08:04] <DarkMageZ> s|k, it's impossible in celcius cause the max ANY cpu can handle is 120
[08:04] <heavydrinker> by next month i'd like to have rhythmbox playing non-open source file types
[08:04] <bhrobinson> Flannel: I have not done that before... should I bother, or can I assume it will be resolved quickly?
[08:04] <drshasta19> hey
[08:04] <drshasta19> i need help
[08:04] <otroean> Just installed dapper on ASUS W1V laptop with ATI x700. When xserver starts the screens turn blank when I use ati driver. No error message...
[08:04] <s|k> okay so motherboard monitor doesn't work well with amd64?
[08:04] <drshasta19> i have this big message
[08:04] <heavydrinker> streaming OGG stations kinda suck
[08:04] <drshasta19> that goes on for 12 min at every boot
[08:04] <msoul> ubuntu: and you think I can set a theme/transparency just like fluxbox
[08:04] <drshasta19> Buffer I/O error on device dm-0
[08:04] <Flannel> bhrobinson: should be resolved tomorrow
[08:04] <bhrobinson> thanks...
[08:04] <bhrobinson> one more question...
[08:05] <drshasta19> if naybody has any idea...
[08:05] <drshasta19> thanks in advance
[08:05] <ubuntu> msoul: not sure, i use xfce
[08:05] <msoul> k
[08:05] <DarkMageZ> heavydrinker, checkout the restrictedformats page @ wiki.ubuntu.com it will help you add the right codecs to let you play mp3 streams :)
[08:05] <Flannel> drshasta19: I had that error before, it was a bad HD.  Not saying yours is bad necessarily.  check the cable etc too.
[08:05] <bhrobinson> I finally have given up on my video card, but wonder if anyone can help. I have an AGP and a PCI Nvidia 5200 dual head cards
[08:05] <drshasta19> Flannel i have a laptop
[08:05] <drshasta19> Flannel i did fsck and did not find anything
[08:05] <bhrobinson> if I try to use those both, GDM will not start.
[08:06] <bhrobinson> I finally pulled the AGP and put in an old Matrox 450
[08:06] <msoul> Flannel: is there a way to upgrade that btw? to the latest version
[08:06] <bhrobinson> any ideas though?
[08:06] <Flannel> msoul: upgrade what?
[08:06] <ubuntu> bhrobinson:  try kdm ;)
[08:06] <Mkquist> heavydrinker-no mp3?
[08:06] <drshasta19> so Flannel any way i could fix that?
[08:06] <Flannel> msoul: oh, fluxbox.  Short of compiling it yourself? no.
[08:06] <Mkquist> nm
[08:06] <Mkquist> someone already got it for ya
[08:06] <bhrobinson> lol... in jest I am sure, but do you think it would make a difference?
[08:07] <Flannel> drshasta19: no idea.  Like I said, when I had the problem it was a hardware problem.  That doesn't mean yours is though.
[08:07] <heavydrinker> RealPlayer under GNOME seems to be semi-weak
[08:07] <ubuntu> bhrobinson: lol, worth a shot , heh
[08:07] <drshasta19> Flannel ok thanks
[08:07] <bhrobinson> ubuntu: thanks... I will try that. All I need to do is run kdm from the command, right?
[08:07] <heavydrinker> i've been using linux for nearly 4 days..  how long 'til i'm a power user?
[08:07] <ubuntu> bhrobinson:  sudo apt-get install kdm
[08:08] <bhrobinson> ubuntu: I think I already have it installed, just not the default
[08:08] <sastraxi> heavydrinker, I'd give it at least until you've considered switching back to windows about 3 times
[08:08] <ubuntu> bhrobinson: then try dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:08] <ubuntu> set kdm as ur default,, reboot , cross ur fingers
[08:08] <ubuntu> ;)
[08:08] <drshasta19> a+
[08:09] <sastraxi> bhrobinson, still a problem?
[08:09] <fernando> lupine_85, ok it is telling me error while openig sound device. please check the output device setting and the project sample rate
[08:09] <bhrobinson> sastraxi, no I am back in the gui, but I pulled all my video cards as that was close to the issue I was having last night... that is what took so long
[08:10] <ubuntu> bhrobinson:  good luck though, hope it helps
[08:10] <asabil> hello all
[08:10] <bhrobinson> ubuntu: thanks...
[08:11] <asabil> I have some troubles with vmware-player
[08:11] <ubuntu> yw
[08:11] <fernando> devios can you help me i have some problems with audacity
[08:11] <asabil> http://rafb.net/paste/results/tJfqXo77.html
[08:11] <asabil> this is the problem
[08:12] <asabil> can someone help me out please ?
[08:13] <ubuntu> any consoel based cd players for ubuntu?
[08:13] <KrakensDen> ubuntu, apt-get whatever-you-used-to-use?
[08:13] <heavydrinker> i expect to be able to play .AVI files within two years, if not...  i'm out of here
[08:14] <ubuntu> KrakensDen: i dont have 1 :p
[08:14] <MorphDK> ubuntu, mcdp
[08:14] <KrakensDen> heavydrinker, you can't? I can
[08:14] <sastraxi> heavydrinker, look up easyubuntu if you haven't already
[08:14] <ubuntu> MorphDK: ty
[08:14] <asabil> anyone please ?
[08:14] <sastraxi> that's where you get all the fancy win32 codecs and flash plugins you may be looking for
[08:14] <MorphDK> ubuntu, or WorkBone
[08:14] <DevGet> if a script is started by the www-data user, can I think about that the script over httpd then?
[08:14] <ubuntu> MorphDK: ok ty will chk it out
[08:14] <Kanpachi> hello, i'm using dapper, and suddenly nautilus won't show any thumbnails for videos, it did before, what can i do?
[08:15] <DevGet> the script has www.data as owner too
[08:15] <noiesmo> heavydrinker, check this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#
[08:15] <shmho> :) my Kubuntu is now works. thanks all.
[08:15] <asabil> http://rafb.net/paste/results/tJfqXo77.html
[08:15] <asabil> can someone look at this please?
[08:15] <KrakensDen> ARGH
[08:15] <odat> hi everyone
[08:15] <KrakensDen> wtf
[08:15] <KrakensDen> nonononono
[08:15] <KrakensDen> why is my sound working?
[08:15] <sastraxi> hahaha
[08:15] <KrakensDen> no
[08:15] <KrakensDen> what the hell
[08:16] <asabil> KrakensDen, yesyesyesyes
[08:16] <shmho> aaronc: I can read that page hm
[08:16] <Kanpachi> hello, i'm using dapper, and suddenly nautilus won't show any thumbnails for videos, it did before, what can i do?
[08:16] <KrakensDen> no, it's BAD
[08:16] <KrakensDen> because I don't know why it works :(
[08:16] <ubuntu> lol
[08:16] <ubuntu> MorphDK: ty , it is working :)
[08:16] <asabil> kandinski, did you change znything in gconf ?
[08:16] <KrakensDen> and I just wasted an hour of my life looking up ydata on acpi assembl
[08:16] <KrakensDen> s/assembl/assembly
[08:16] <msoul> Flannel failed to start the X Server
[08:16] <asabil> oups
[08:16] <sastraxi> KrakensDen, sorry about that =/
[08:17] <msoul> after I did install fluxbox
[08:17] <asabil> Kanpachi, did you change znything in gconf ?
[08:17] <odat> anyone able to give some suggestions about an open source website project?
[08:17] <Kanpachi> not really
[08:17] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, you know what's funny? The only help on my particular error message
[08:17] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, looks to be this
[08:17] <KrakensDen> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1622/
[08:17] <Flannel> msoul: did it update your xserver package?   (probably - read the topic about how to fix that)
[08:17] <asabil> Kanpachi, what did you do then ?
[08:17] <weirdo> for some reason i cant seem to cd to /home/usrname/ anymore
[08:17] <msoul> Flannel: Yeah I did update
[08:17] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, which is basically my laptop's DSDT
[08:17] <asabil> can someone help me out with vmware ?
[08:17] <Flannel> odat: you might try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:18] <Kanpachi> i had previews for old videos, and i deleted my .thumbnails dir cuz i d/led new videos and it won't show previews of them
[08:18] <meathead_> why is it I can load pages from apache2 with localhost in firefox, but not with my IP from another computer?
[08:18] <sethk> odat, what project?
[08:18] <sastraxi> KrakensDen, wow
[08:18] <msoul> k
[08:18] <msoul> brb
[08:18] <sastraxi> so did you try the recompile bit?
[08:18] <KrakensDen> um
[08:18] <sastraxi> 16 errors, ah I see
[08:19] <KrakensDen> nope
[08:19] <sastraxi> sorry, I missed that completely
[08:19] <ubuntu> meathead_: firewalls?
[08:19] <KrakensDen> CFGD doesn't exist anywhere else in the file
[08:19] <KrakensDen> just in that one method
[08:19] <weirdo> does anyone know why i cant cd to the /home/user folder?
[08:19] <KrakensDen> so I'm not sure what it's supposed to reference
[08:19] <Kanpachi> what can i do now?
[08:19] <meathead_> ubuntu forwarded port 80
[08:19] <meathead_> no firefox
[08:19] <meathead_> err
[08:19] <meathead_> firewall
[08:19] <KrakensDen> and I grepped through the spec
[08:19] <KrakensDen> no mention of CFGD
[08:19] <sastraxi> KrakensDen, any way you can send me that file?
[08:19] <asabil> Kanpachi, are you able to play the new videos in totem ?
[08:19] <ubuntu> [Wiebel] : permisson?
[08:19] <KrakensDen> but I've found it in random DSDT files
[08:19] <sastraxi> this is a cool mystery to me
[08:19] <Kanpachi> yes
[08:19] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, give me your email?
[08:19] <fdsd> hey guys, how do I apt-get a older package? and how do I find older packages of a deb?
[08:20] <KrakensDen> or a paste service
[08:20] <Kanpachi> now i don't have previews at all
[08:20] <Kanpachi> :(
[08:20] <Kanpachi> only pic previews
[08:20] <[Wiebel] > ubuntu: que?
[08:20] <odat> sethk, www.fossystems.com
[08:20] <asabil> anyone used to vmware player ?
[08:20] <dibblego> how do I remove a kernel?
[08:20] <ubuntu> [Wiebel] : sorry was for that wierdo dude
[08:20] <DragoraN> hi
[08:20] <heavydrinker> well, copying and pasting did something, i don't know what...  gonna reboot and check it out i guess
[08:21] <dibblego> I want to remove the 2.6.15-26 kernel - X won't start with it
[08:21] <DragoraN> i get black images from motion ... why?
[08:21] <lyy> alright!
[08:21] <[Wiebel] > ubuntu: ah ok :)
[08:21] <Kanpachi> the strange thing is, i get picture previews
[08:21] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, krakensden.dyndns.org/dsdt.dsl
[08:21] <[Wiebel] > np
[08:21] <Kanpachi> but not video preivews
[08:21] <lyy> alright! my laptop now has 2 gigs of ram! hahah :D
[08:21] <sethk> odat, I'll join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:21] <weirdo> ?
[08:21] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, and krakensden.dyndns.org/compile_log
[08:21] <meathead_> someone try http://<IP_ADDRESS>/center
[08:21] <natural20> so why won't firefox load certain pages?  i get the "The connection was reset" error
[08:21] <ubuntu> [Wiebel] : ty
[08:21] <weirdo> oh permission?
[08:21] <weirdo> im trying to cd to my own dir
[08:22] <docgnome> where do i set a static ip address for my ethernet card so that it uses it at startup?
[08:22] <weirdo> but it wont let me
[08:22] <ubuntu> [Wierdo yep, chk owner ship
[08:22] <ubuntu> and other security settings
[08:22] <lyy> docgnome: /etc/hosts
[08:22] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, http://www.acpi.info/spec.htm <- spec
[08:22] <sethk> docgnome, network-admin (breezy) or NetworkAdmin( dapper) programs.  or do you mean, what text file?
[08:22] <docgnome> sethk: text file.
[08:23] <lyy> i was off base ?
[08:23] <lyy> sorry
[08:23] <mcrandello> hi does anyone know how to block modules from loading other than the blacklist file?
[08:23] <mcrandello> it doesn't seem to work: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/143849
[08:23] <weirdo> file owner is me
[08:23] <weirdo> and owner has r w e
[08:23] <sastraxi> KrakensDen, thanks
[08:23] <ubuntu> wierdo what error message u get?
[08:24] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-programming-scripting/34167-need-help-fixing-buggy-acpi-dsdt-anyone-asl-skills-please-help.html <- that guy has CFGD defined
[08:24] <sethk> docgnome, /etc/network/interfaces
[08:24] <weirdo> if i try to cd to my usrname dir, it just cd's to /
[08:24] <asabil> anyone please?
[08:24] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, , but I just don't know enough to, well, do anything with confidence
[08:24] <docgnome> sethk: hrm. Is there a tutorial on fiddling with that file? I'm setting things in there, but i seem to have done it incorrectly
[08:24] <weirdo> if i try to cp some stuff from my usrname dir, i get ommitting directory
[08:25] <ubuntu> wierdo try this, login as that user type cd $HOME
[08:25] <Flannel> weirdo: does your  username dir still exist?
[08:25] <sethk> docgnome, I think there is, but I don't have the url at the moment
[08:25] <msoul> Flannel: error not found
[08:25] <docgnome> sethk: right.
[08:25] <weirdo> nothing still
[08:25] <weirdo> im still at dir /
[08:25] <weirdo> i am logged in as that user
[08:25] <sethk> docgnome, best thing to do is to copy the file, make changes with the gui, and see what changes in the file
[08:25] <Flannel> weirdo: cd /home/  and then ls, do you see your username?
[08:25] <mcrandello> type echo $HOME and let us know what it sayw
[08:25] <ubuntu> chk ur user setting then, what is home folder set too
[08:25] <sethk> docgnome, that's more accurate (at least potentially) than any doc is going to be
[08:25] <fdsd> Hey Guys, I have a dumb question how do I downgrade a package?
[08:26] <weirdo> yah it's in blue
[08:26] <Flannel> fdsd: you mean xorg?
[08:26] <heavydrinker> .pls files still wont play in rhythmbox, but i need to just lurk for while....
[08:26] <ubuntu> type echo $HOME
[08:26] <fdsd> Flannel, usplash
[08:26] <fdsd> Flannel, I need to install an older dep
[08:26] <weirdo> it gives me the same dir im trying to cd to
[08:26] <fdsd> Flannel, I need to look up what older packages exsist and install an older one
[08:26] <ubuntu> wierdo does the folder exist?
[08:26] <weirdo> i can get as far as cd'ing to /home only
[08:27] <dibblego> I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.15-26-386 then X refused to start (no screens found) so I rolled back the kernel (apt-get remove 2.6.15-26-386) but still X refuses to start - why?
[08:27] <weirdo> ya
[08:27] <Flannel> weirdo: and which subdirs are there?
[08:27] <sethk> dibblego, not a kernel problem
[08:27] <sethk> !xorgbug
[08:27] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc).
[08:27] <Flannel> dibblego: read the topic
[08:27] <Flannel> or that
[08:27] <dibblego> sethk, sure, but why all of a sudden?
[08:27] <sethk> dibblego, bad package, released today
[08:27] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, http://djax.linuxbourg.ch/blog/?p=30&lp_lang_view=en <- check the first diff
[08:27] <dibblego> ah
[08:27] <weirdo> Desktop, Documents, Installer
[08:27] <Flannel> weirdo: thats not what should be in /home/
[08:28] <weirdo> er
[08:28] <sethk> dibblego, see topic, or what I did a few lines ago, to fix it
[08:28] <weirdo> it's /home/weirdo/Desktop... etc
[08:28] <dibblego> ok thanks
[08:28] <weirdo> i just cant cd to /weirdo
[08:28] <sastraxi> ok, this is VERY useful KrakensDen
[08:28] <Flannel>  /weirdo is wrong.  it's /home/weirdo or ~
[08:28] <sethk> weirdo, there likely isn't a /weirdo.  it will be /home/weirdo
[08:28] <ubuntu> it should be cd /home/wierdo
[08:28] <mcrandello> weirdo: you try "sudo chown -R weirdo /home/weirdo" yet?
[08:29] <weirdo> i mean /home/weirdo
[08:29] <dibblego> does that mean I should put the kernel back?
[08:29] <Andru1> how do i make multi-key keyboard shortcuts in Keyboard Shortcuts Gnome thing?
[08:29] <weirdo> what does chown do
[08:29] <mcrandello> assigns ownership
[08:29] <sethk> weirdo, if you aren't sure of your home directory name,  cd  (no arguments) goes to your home directory
[08:29] <mcrandello> in case the user number is messed up it can help
[08:29] <sethk> weirdo, stands for change owner
[08:29] <mcrandello> that happens to me sometimes when I switch distros
[08:30] <Andru1> so, anybody know how to assign multi-key keyboard shortcuts?
[08:30] <mcrandello> sometimes the primary group or user number isn't what's expected so it'll show up as yours in "ls -la" but you still don't have perms
[08:30] <DigitalStimulus> gah, silly bugs!  glad i came here :0)
[08:30] <sethk> mcrandello, you can, instead, edit /etc/passwd and change the numerical equivalent of your user id
[08:30] <DigitalStimulus> been chasing that for an hour thought it was something i did
[08:30] <ubuntu> well bbl guys
[08:30] <ubuntu> later all, tc
[08:31] <s|k> DarkMageZ: still around?
[08:31] <DarkMageZ> s|k, yup
[08:31] <mcrandello> sethk: I like to go with whatever the distro wants but that could work too
[08:31] <s|k> DarkMageZ: I tried two different software applications, and they both tell me my cpu temp is 260 Farenheit
[08:32] <JoseStefan> !paste
[08:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:32] <Suplyndmnd> oh wow
[08:32] <sethk> mcrandello, the number is just a number.  some set the next user id to be 500, some 1000
[08:32] <DarkMageZ> s|k, can you translate that to 'c for me?
[08:32] <weirdo> thanks it's working now
[08:32] <s|k> DarkMageZ: 127 Celcius
[08:32] <sethk> mcrandello, as long as you don't change any of the user ids defined by the system (root, syslog, that sort of thing) changing an id does nothing significant
[08:33] <Suplyndmnd> Hello all... Linux noob here
[08:33] <asabil> can anyone help me out with vmware ?
[08:33] <asabil> can someone help out please?
[08:33] <JoseStefan> is this valid syntax for apt_preferences: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21367  ??
[08:33] <DarkMageZ> s|k, it's technically impossible. no chip for x86 or x64 available to the general market can handle that heat... the sensor might be faulty or the software
[08:34] <Andruk> how do i use multi-key keyboard shortcuts?
[08:34] <Andruk> well, how do i assign them?
[08:34] <s|k> DarkMageZ: it's a brand new board :/
[08:34] <natural20> so why won't firefox load certain pages?  i get the "The connection was reset" error
[08:34] <mcrandello> sethk: true true I'll maybe try it that way when I export my homedir over to the slackware box at home :)
[08:34] <s|k> DarkMageZ: the pc is hot to the touch
[08:34] <BeepAU> what should i use to play realmedia in ubuntu?
[08:34] <Suplyndmnd> Does Firefox run on Ubuntu?
[08:34] <natural20> sethk: i don't think i thanked you earlier, so thanks :)
[08:34] <Flannel> Suplyndmnd: yep, installed by default
[08:34] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, realplayer?
[08:34] <sethk> 260 F is 126.66 C
[08:34] <Suplyndmnd> oh, sweet... Thanks Flannel
[08:34] <asabil> anyone using vmware-player ?
[08:34] <DarkMageZ> s|k, hmm, i'd turn it off and get some help :S
[08:34] <sethk> natural20, not sure if I helped, but if I did, np
[08:35] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, open up add/install programs and search for it
[08:35] <monkster> Suplyndmnd, sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:35] <BeepAU> KrakensDen -- is there a better option?
[08:35] <bimberi> Suplyndmnd: yes, it's installed by default
[08:35] <heavydrinker> yeah, i got ralplayer working...  no idea how....
[08:35] <JoseStefan> s|k, probably a bad sensor, or the software invlolved doesnt know how to read the sensor
[08:35] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, well, mplayer or VLC might play real media streams
[08:35] <mcrandello> anyone know why this would happen? modules blacklisted but still coming up after reboot http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/143849
[08:35] <Suplyndmnd> monkster, I am new :) So no idea what that means but i'll figure it out if it can work :)
[08:35] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, but real is easy to set up, and it works much better under linux than windows :P
[08:35] <DarkMageZ> s|k, tho if it was really @ 126'c your processor would be fried :P
[08:35] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, no spyware or anything
[08:35] <Suplyndmnd> 126c, jesus
[08:35] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, it's a bit crippled though- you can't do playlists or anything
[08:35] <s|k> the computer seems to be running just fine
[08:35] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, try it, you might like it
[08:36] <s|k> it's not slow or anything
[08:36] <s|k> or causing any problems
[08:36] <dibblego> what command tells me the amount of memory in a machine?
[08:36] <DarkMageZ> s|k, then it has to be a bad sensor or software :P
[08:36] <JoseStefan> is this valid syntax for apt_preferences, it doesnt seem to be working: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21367
[08:36] <heavydrinker> i'll figure out how to load codecs into the default media player..  after a while
[08:36] <s|k> :<
[08:36] <Flannel> !tell heavydrinker about codecs
[08:36] <BeepAU> KrakensDen -- do i get 'realplayer' or 'RealPlayer 10'?
[08:36] <monkster> like the others said, it is installed by default, so you probably don't have to install it with that command
[08:36] <bimberi> dibblego: 'cat /proc/meminfo' and 'free' are 2
[08:37] <asabil> anyone using vmware-player ?
[08:37] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, oh, I did this the other day...
[08:37] <dibblego> thanks
[08:37] <JoseStefan> dibblego, try "free"
[08:37] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, are you using synaptic?
[08:37] <JoseStefan> dibblego, man free
[08:37] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, one will give an error right off, the other one won't
[08:37] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, go with the working one :P
[08:37] <BeepAU> asabil -- i use it to run windows xp.
[08:37] <daraknor> !tell daraknor about codecs
[08:38] <asabil> BeepAU, could you help me please ?
[08:38] <BeepAU> KrakensDen -- synaptic for what? i'm in add/remove applications
[08:38] <asabil> http://rafb.net/paste/results/tJfqXo77.html
[08:38] <asabil> this is my problem
[08:38] <KrakensDen> narf
[08:38] <KrakensDen> um
[08:38] <Andru1> does anybody know where i can find information about multi-key keyboard shortcuts
[08:38] <Andru1> ?
[08:38] <KrakensDen> gimme a sec
[08:38] <KrakensDen> Andru1, what do you want to know?
[08:38] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, realplayer 10
[08:38] <daraknor> Andru1, system menu, preferences, keyboard shortcuts is a great place to start
[08:39] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, realplayer is real v 8, realplayer 10 is v 10
[08:39] <asabil> Andru1, ala emacs ?
[08:39] <asabil> Andru1, C-X C-S ?
[08:39] <daraknor> I feel bad asking this, but I want to join #python on the freenode network and says I need to identify. I read /help and it doesn't have an apparently related command
[08:39] <BeepAU> asabil -- are you loading it through the menu?
[08:40] <Andru1> KrakensDen: How do i input multi-key keyboard shortcuts with Keyboard Shortcuts thing in gnome...?
[08:40] <JoseStefan> is this valid syntax for apt/preferences, it doesn't seem to be working: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21368 ??
[08:40] <Flannel> daraknor: /msg nickserv help identify
[08:40] <Flannel> er, daraknor help register, not identify
[08:40] <Andru1> i am in the keyboard shortcuts thing
[08:40] <daraknor> Flannel, thanks, I did /register and it doesn't exist :/
[08:40] <mcrandello> Andru1: check out xmodmap and xev if you can't get what you want any other way
[08:41] <asabil> BeepAU, this is during the install :/
[08:41] <mcrandello> Andru1: promises to be complicated but you might be able to cobble together something
[08:42] <heavydrinker> the help file says i need to smoke more pot
[08:42] <Suplyndmnd> Does Ubuntu and Windows get along if on seperate drives?
[08:42] <KrakensDen> Andru1, what mcrandello said
[08:42] <Andru1> right, like, i want to have the win***s key +L be the logout shortcut, but it will only accept the first keyboard input it receives
[08:43] <Andru1> heavydrinker: are you sure you need to smoke pot?  I mean, alcohol is so much more refined...
[08:43] <BeepAU> asabil -- ever gone 'sudo apt-get install vmware-player', as that's all it took me to install.
[08:44] <mcrandello> Andru1 with xmodmap you can map a multikey combo to output something that looks like 1 key to the X server and then put that keycode into where you want it to trigger say logging out
[08:44] <BeepAU> asabil -- ?
[08:44] <mcrandello> at least I think
[08:44] <Andru1> okay
[08:44] <Suplyndmnd> liar, prove it
[08:44] <sethk> Suplyndmnd, just fine, as long as windows is on  primary master.  linux can be anywhere
[08:44] <asabil> BeepAU, which kernel do you use ?
[08:44] <vouzico> morning
[08:44] <NickGarvey> vouzico: hehe, 2:44 here
[08:44] <Suplyndmnd> It is on primary master.... and thank you
[08:45] <BeepAU> asabil -- i use the default ubuntu terminal.
[08:45] <Andru1> mcrandello: so i just need to search for a few xev and xmodmap tutorials/howtos and i should be able to figure it out
[08:45] <asabil> BeepAU, uname -r
[08:45] <Suplyndmnd> I promise to stop asking noob questions soon as i get this installed and figure some stuff out
[08:45] <BeepAU> asabil -- 2.6.15-23-386
[08:45] <mcrandello> Andru1: in theory, I was trying to get kde to use my Fn key that way and almost had it working the way I wanted then I reformatted due to an unrelated bug
[08:45] <asabil> BeepAU, you must be using the default kernel, thats why :)
[08:45] <asabil> I am out of luck
[08:46] <asabil> mine is  2.6.15-26-686
[08:46] <Andru1> mcrandello: okay, cool, thanks a lot!
[08:46] <mcrandello> Andru1: good luck with it, a lot of the old-school X stuff can seem confusing at first
[08:48] <BeepAU> KrakensDen -- thanks for your help.
[08:48] <rapier> anyone got an example iptables rule to forward a port to another machine while running nat?
[08:48] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, it worked? Awesome :P
[08:48] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, happy to help
[08:49] <meathead> anyone here who knows have to use ubuntu center or torrentflux, I have a question regarding the setting of the download folder
[08:50] <heavydrinker> that easy ubuntu link was for 3 versions back
[08:51] <natural20> so you know yahoo groups? well i can't load 'em on and it has to be something in ubuntu.  neither firefox or epiphany will load the pages, but my XP comp on the same connection loads just fine.  any ideas?
[08:51] <heavydrinker> opea
[08:51] <heavydrinker> r*
[08:51] <natural20> opera run on breezy?
[08:52] <NickGarvey> natural20: it should
[08:53] <KrakensDen> natural20, download the deb, see if it works :)
[08:53] <JoseStefan> natural20, opera.com has downloads for breezy, i believe it's not on the ubuntu repositories
[08:53] <NickGarvey> !opera
[08:53] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[08:54] <ompaul> !info opera breezy
[08:54] <ubotu> Package opera does not exist in breezy
[08:54] <NickGarvey> !info opera dapper
[08:54] <mcrandello> seriously I'm stumped does anyone know what overrides /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist in ubuntu?
[08:54] <ubotu> Package opera does not exist in dapper
[08:54] <JoseStefan> opera is on the canonical commercial repositories
[08:54] <JoseStefan> but that is for dapper
[08:54] <JoseStefan> fore breezy you must download from opera.com
[08:54] <NickGarvey> JoseStefan: ah, didn't know that ):
[08:55] <NickGarvey> :)*
[08:55] <natural20> how do i want to download the opera breezy package?  tar.gz or the default?
[08:55] <Suplyndmnd> Looking at a step by step guide.... this has to be (it seems) the most straight forward program installation ever
[08:56] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: what are you instaling?
[08:56] <JoseStefan> NickGarvey, archive.canonical.com
[08:56] <Suplyndmnd> Ubuntu, soon
[08:56] <altigen> hi~  i  have a question on ip_forward in ubuntu
[08:56] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: oh, excellent :)
[08:56] <elkbuntu> altigen, dont ask to ask, just ask
[08:56] <MorphDK> bah.. my xorg just stopped working after an apt-get upgrade
[08:57] <meathead> anyone here who knows have to use ubuntu center or torrentflux, I have a question regarding the setting of the download folder
[08:57] <MorphDK> "No screens found"
[08:57] <Suplyndmnd> I'm moving stuff off a drive.  Will be installing in the morning as it's 3am
[08:57] <xfail> hmm
[08:57] <xfail> same thing
[08:57] <MorphDK> :/
[08:57] <elkbuntu> same to you, meathead, just ask the question...
[08:57] <KrakensDen> MorphDK, check the topic
[08:57] <JoseStefan> !tell MorphDK about xorgbug
[08:57] <KrakensDen> xfail, check the topic
[08:57] <MorphDK> oh.. sweet :)
[08:57] <xfail> hmm, how do I check it in sirc
[08:57] <altigen> i uncommented "net/ipv4/ip_forward=1" in /etc/sysctrl.conf, and after reboot, i got /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward=1
[08:57] <Suplyndmnd> NickGarvey, may I send you a /msg?
[08:58] <poningru> !ubuntu
[08:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[08:58] <poningru> err
[08:58] <poningru> !pdf
[08:58] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[08:58] <altigen> i have 2 subnet beside 2 network interfaces, <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:58] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: yes
[08:58] <mtholdenss> well the 3d accelerator be standard in the nxt version of ubuntu cause i had trouble getting it working, i mean 3d switching from different desktops...
[08:58] <meathead> anyone here who knows have to use ubuntu center or torrentflux, I have a question regarding the setting of the download folder
[08:58] <xfail> KrakensDen, could you print a topic in a channel, not really used to sirc
[08:58] <MorphDK> KrakensDen, but why is it doing this? an error in the latest version?
[08:59] <heavydrinker> i need to download thubuntu, ubuntu for thieves
[08:59] <natural20> how do i open a debian package?
[08:59] <mtholdenss> meathead ask the question dont ask to ask it cause thats pointless
[08:59] <altigen> and i use a machine with ip <IP_ADDRESS> (and gw <IP_ADDRESS>) to ping <IP_ADDRESS> failed
[08:59] <BHSPitLappy> natural20, double clock on it?
[08:59] <KrakensDen> MorphDK, yup
[08:59] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: you need to be registered though (which you are not)
[08:59] <KrakensDen> !tell xfail about xorgbugfix
[08:59] <KrakensDen> MorphDK, bad testing :(
[08:59] <Suplyndmnd> oh
[08:59] <MorphDK> yeah.. too bad
[08:59] <KrakensDen> well, s/bad testing/no testing
[08:59] <heavydrinker> are we graded for spelling in this channel?
[08:59] <MorphDK> :)
[09:00] <ompaul> heavydrinker, on
[09:00] <natural20> BHSPitLappy, double click opens with Archive Manager, says it can't read the file.  (breezy)
[09:00] <KrakensDen> heavydrinker, you are always graded for spelling
[09:00] <altigen> but from <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS> works~~
[09:00] <mtholdenss> anyone here use the 3d feature of ubuntu
[09:00] <daraknor> altigen, you can't send any 10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x or 172.16.x.x address over the internet routers
[09:00] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, yes
[09:00] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, you have a question? :)
[09:00] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, if you want xgl, try #ubuntu-xgl
[09:00] <mtholdenss> did u have a lot of trouble setting it up?
[09:00] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, they're the real experts
[09:00] <KrakensDen> not really
[09:00] <altigen> daraknor: i just send them in a lan
[09:00] <mtholdenss> oh thanks much
[09:00] <KrakensDen> installed nvidia-glx
[09:01] <KrakensDen> and ran 1 (one) command to enable it
[09:01] <KrakensDen> I've heard ATI cards aren't as nice
[09:01] <altigen> it seems a "sigle-side" ip forward
[09:01] <KrakensDen> but intel cards are enabled by default
[09:01] <meathead> how do you set the default download directory in Ubuntu Center for torrentflux to actually the folder you want, not thefolderyouwant/.torrents
[09:01] <daraknor> altigen, so ping from 10.x works but from 192.x does not?  Are there VLANs, PPTP, VPN or any other strangeness? Do you have a firewall configured on any machine between 10.x and 192.x?
[09:02] <mtholdenss> would it be a standard feature in the nxt ubuntu to pick up if u have the right hardware and auto install drivers and enable feature?
[09:02] <BHSPitLappy> lol
[09:02] <meathead> how do you set the default download directory in Ubuntu Center for torrentflux to actually the folder you want, not thefolderyouwant/.torrents
[09:02] <natural20> so i have a deb and a tar.gz to install Opera on Breezy, but I don't know how to use 'em. Any help?
[09:02] <altigen> daraknor: there is no firewalls, thay are just to subnets connected with a ubuntu box i mentioned ~
[09:03] <altigen> daraknor: and my iptables is empry~
[09:03] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, well, it's complicated
[09:03] <JoseStefan> natura20, use the deb
[09:03] <meathead> how do you set the default download directory in Ubuntu Center for torrentflux to actually the folder you want, not thefolderyouwant/.torrents
[09:03] <JoseStefan> !deb
[09:03] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[09:03] <lastnode> is xorg broken for some reason? i just upgraded xorg-core and X died on me
[09:03] <mtholdenss> oh k, but didnt the xgl feaure come from suse ?
[09:03] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, from Novell, SuSe's parent company
[09:03] <ompaul> lastnode,  /msg ubotu xorgbugfix
[09:04] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, legal questions hold it back, mostly
[09:04] <Suplyndmnd> NickGarvey, It go through that time?
[09:04] <lastnode> thanks ompaul
[09:04] <natural20> josestefan, double click opens the deb with archive manager (breezy)  i don't know how to fix that
[09:04] <avis> when did people start having issues with xorg ?
[09:04] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, basically, ati and nvidia have proprietary drivers
[09:04] <PyroManiak> Anyone know why VNC server hardlocks my system? Or know of a guide for doing remote X sessions with windows?
[09:04] <Lattyware> Hey, My PC has been crashing randomly, since I first booted it this morning.
[09:04] <avis> i have been ok.  i could not open thunderbird but i fixed that.
[09:04] <JoseStefan> natura20, use:   sudo dpkg -i filename
[09:04] <ompaul> avalost, read the topci
[09:04] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, which have hooks into the kernel
[09:04] <mtholdenss> oh k, legal questions?
[09:04] <rixth> Hi there, I have a RAID1 setup (very new) I made it with mdadm --create --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc.
[09:04] <ali1234> PyroManiak: http://www.cdf.toronto.edu/workathome/index.php3?id=33
[09:04] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, which is basically not GPL-compliant
[09:05] <mtholdenss> oh k
[09:05] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, so ubuntu can't put them on their CD
[09:05] <rixth> I rebooted, now my raid array is gone, now can I get it back WITHOUT losing data?
[09:05] <ompaul> avis, read the topic (international typo day)
[09:05] <KrakensDen> in my experience, though
[09:05] <KrakensDen> 2D will work fine
[09:05] <avis> thank you ompaul
[09:05] <KrakensDen> and 3D is fairly straightforward
[09:05] <KrakensDen> your mileage, as always, may vary
[09:05] <Lattyware> I ran MemTest, thinking it sounded like a RAM problem, as it crashed at completelty different times, and that came up with 'Unexpected interrupt: 0000000f' (not sure on the number of 0's)
[09:05] <mtholdenss> oh cause theres both partys of companies involved so u have to do it manually
[09:05] <fdsd> how do I Add the Universe repository?
[09:05] <fdsd> anyone know?
[09:05] <KrakensDen> fdsd, you want to use a gui or the command line?
[09:05] <fdsd> command line
[09:06] <ompaul> !universe > fdsd
[09:06] <lostinc> do you have to download a pkg to downgrade xorg or is there a command to revert in apt?
[09:06] <NickGarvey> !xorgbug > lostinc
[09:06] <altigen> daraknor: it seems i was dropped from irc.  so there is no firewall between the 2 subnets
[09:06] <ompaul> fdsd, have a look at the message the bot sent you
[09:06] <avis> ty
[09:06] <JoseStefan> wow, ubotu supports pipes, lol
[09:06] <chris449> hi, i'm trying to make the kde/gnome decision and heard u can run them side by side, by using apt-get to install kde can i just choose either kde or gnome when i log in?
[09:06] <meathead> how do you set the default download directory in Ubuntu Center for torrentflux to actually the folder you want, not thefolderyouwant/.torrents
[09:06] <avis> everyone check the topic it will fix your system in one small step
[09:06] <KrakensDen> yup
[09:06] <avis> reboot time
[09:06] <KrakensDen> chris449, yup
[09:06] <NickGarvey> JoseStefan: (thats about it, factoid > username
[09:06] <natural20> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of opera:
[09:06] <natural20>  opera depends on libqt3-mt (>= 3.3.4); however:
[09:06] <natural20>   Package libqt3-mt is not installed.
[09:06] <natural20>    How do i fix that?
[09:06] <KrakensDen> chris449, and apps work seamlessly between them
[09:07] <chris449> KrakensDen: thanks, u made my life easier