[12:31] <sh0t> ioria, Playback failure:
[12:31] <sh0t> DVDRead could not read -1/4 blocks at 0x01.
[12:32] <coraxx> Wookimonsta: yup...look at last post ... and follow he's steps
[12:32] <chomwitt> why suddenly adobeflash videos wont play and i must press 'Activate Adobe Flash'.  newbie relatives and friends ask me with angst!  i mean  i can tell them what to do but its makes ubuntu seem broken with no reason
[12:33] <Wookimonsta> thanks for the pointer coraxx, gonna go do that
[12:33] <coraxx> Wookimonsta: you're welcome :-)
[12:33] <ioria> sh0t,  "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable. "   this make me think....
[12:34] <sh0t> yeah  how do i nstalle them
[12:34] <sh0t> what's the package
[12:34] <sh0t> ?
[12:34] <coraxx> chomwitt: Adobe flash is not a "free" software ...please bare that in mind ... if you are not running the newest version, Chrome or Firefox might place warnings and popus when you visit websites that uses the plugin.
[12:34] <BBLLCC> TJ-, ? the manual edit of the grub file not to see a blank screen each time i shut the machine down only works if I turn the machine off less than half an hour (i believe, not sure) after having turned it on. Longer than that I only get a blank screen. Hows so?
[12:35] <ioria> sh0t,  did you run this ? sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[12:35] <TJ-> BBLLCC: Really!!?! That PC has a ind of its own!
[12:35] <TJ-> s/ind/mind
[12:35] <ioria> sh0t,  after installing libdvdread4 ?
[12:35] <BBLLCC> TJ-, what other explanations can you think of?
[12:35] <coraxx> chomwitt: ...simply update to the newest flash version.
[12:35] <sh0t> ioria, nope i am doing it now
[12:36] <coraxx> sh0t: ioria  aaaaaahhhh that explains a lot ...good work ioria ...there always seems to be something missing :-)
[12:36] <ioria> sh0t,  reboot  then ....
[12:37] <sh0t> ioria, coraxx !! Yey it works...i wish i knew which of the steps i did si the one necessary
[12:37] <ioria> coraxx, cross fingers
[12:37] <TJ-> BBLLCC: The PC has *very* buggy firmware, unfortunately
[12:37] <BBLLCC> ill drink to celebrate
[12:37] <ioria> sh0t,  ok, then
[12:38] <borgcube> #join ipfp
[12:39] <TJ-> BBLLCC: If you can let me see a kernel log from a session that has been running for a long time (and therefore should be beyond the point at which the fix works) it *may* reveal some clue. "/var/log/kern.log" is the file I'd want to see.
[12:43] <sh0t> thanks ioria coraxx
[12:43] <ioria> sh0t,  np, good vision Braveheart
[12:47] <BBLLCC> TJ-, ill wait an hour and paste it
[12:55] <Guest22922> anyone know what this could mean: /bin/sh: 1: /bin/sh cannot create /vagrant/log/flask_server.log : Protocol error
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> Guest22922  I use vagrant too... you *do* know what it is/does? what are you doing?
[12:57] <Guest22922> i have defined an upstart script within vagrant
[12:57] <Guest22922> but my `pre-stop script` doesn't run as i want
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> Guest22922  ok, that's on a different level
[12:58] <Guest22922> MonkeyDust: https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/blob/80001ca5bd0af404768185b15495c57d09240ae2/puppet/manifests/start_webserver.pp#L59
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> Guest22922  i'm not familiar enough with python, assumed it was a vagrant error
[12:59] <Guest22922> it's ubuntu upstart error i believe
[13:00] <Guest22922> it's either upstart syntax: maybe i'm not stopping on the right runlevel, or my general upstart syntax is incorrect - or, its a linux concept
[13:01] <Guest22922> MonkeyDust: https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/issues/1997#issuecomment-120598437
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> Guest22922  don't address me, address the channel
[13:02] <Guest22922> yes sir
[13:02] <OerHeks> "cannot create /vagrant/log/flask_server.log" seems insufficient write-privileges to me?
[13:03] <Guest22922> hmm, well the corresponding `pre-start script` is able to create the same `/vagrant/log/flask_server.log` though
[13:04] <Guest22922> maybe the process to write to `/vagrant/log/flask_server.log` in the `post-stop script` is happening too late: some things have closed that are needed for that process?
[13:06] <Guest22922> but, i've changed `post-stop script` to `pre-start-script`, and the outcome is the same.  Though, not sure if `pre-start script` is a good option because i have a `respawn` command for the overall upstart job
[13:06] <OerHeks> Guest22922, is says create, not write
[13:06] <Guest22922> yeah, that's weird
[13:07] <OerHeks> This is more an issue for #ubuntu-server or #vagrant
[13:08] <TJ-> Guest22922: There are several known Vagrant bugs around that Protocol error
[13:08] <BlackDalek> is there any package available for latest Ubuntu which can rotate the desktop wallpaper image every xx minutes?
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> so it is a vagrant error after all
[13:08] <Spodermen_sweg> Holy crap, EriC^^, that guide is confusing
[13:10] <OerHeks> !info wallch
[13:10] <OerHeks> BlackDalek, ^^
[13:11] <OerHeks> BlackDalek,  or use shotwell > http://askubuntu.com/questions/134/how-do-i-create-a-desktop-wallpaper-slideshow
[13:12] <TJ-> Guest22922: MonkeyDust As I understand it, it's because the files are immutable. I see references in different contexts to using "--always-copy" in the Makefile, but that's not going to help if the immutability extends to generated files
[13:12] <OerHeks> Wallch has a nice clock option too
[13:13] <Spodermen_sweg> MonkeyDust: the link that you posted - it was written i  2007, will it still apply?
[13:15] <Guest22922> TJ-: the log files created in the `pre-start script` (i.e. /vagrant/log/flask_server.log) have vagrant:vagrant ownership, and 777 permission
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> Spodermen_sweg  remind me... what did i say?
[13:16] <Guest22922> so, i'm not sure why `pre-stop script`, or `post-stop script` is saying it can't be created
[13:16] <BlackDalek> the reviews in software centre for wallch make it sound like there could be issues running it in latest Ubuntu....
[13:16] <Guest22922> bc, `pre-start script` should have already created them
[13:16] <Spodermen_sweg> (MonkeyDust) Spodermen_sweg  is this useful http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[13:17] <Guest22922> unless it is `pre-start script that complains about not being able to create the script, and creates them anyways.  However, `pre-stop script` simply doesn't run, and doesn't output error
[13:17] <TJ-> Guest22922: Immutability - if that is the case, explains it
[13:18] <Spodermen_sweg> Would it just be better to just burn the iso to a DVD/usb
[13:18] <OerHeks> BlackDalek, some say it does not work, in those comments ( i don't trust those comments) ... but more people say it works in 14.04, and it works fine in 15.04 latest.
[13:18] <Guest22922> sorry for pestering: but, why would the file become immutable?
[13:18] <OerHeks> just tested it
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> Spodermen_sweg  usb/dvd is the 'normal' way to do ... i got that link from ubottu, so i guess it still applies
[13:19] <BlackDalek> ok, thanks for your input ;)
[13:19] <TJ-> Guest22922: I'm not saying it is, but it explains why the file is created but can't be appended to. Check whether its 'i' immutability attribute is set using "lsattr"
[13:19] <OerHeks> BlackDalek,  or try shotwell, it has a wallpapaer tool in it too
[13:20] <Spodermen_sweg> Hmmm... plenty of ways to screw it up, so I'll just wait until I can use the safer option
[13:20] <Spodermen_sweg> Thanks though
[13:20] <Guest22922> TJ, how can i test this - should i run a command in terminal, or within the upstart script `pre-stop script` stanza?
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> Spodermen_sweg  start with making a backup
[13:21] <Spodermen_sweg> Ah almost forgot to do that
[13:22] <TJ-> Guest22922: Command in a terminal should be sufficient
[13:23] <Guest22922> TJ-, it says lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ,/flask_server.log
[13:23] <Guest22922> and it says lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ,/flask_server.pid
[13:24] <TJ-> Guest22922: you typed "," not "." ?
[13:25] <Guest22922> i typed `lsattr` in the terminal, the directory containing: flask_server.log, and flask_server.pid
[13:25] <Guest22922> the output should have been:
[13:25] <Guest22922> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./flask_server.log
[13:25] <Guest22922> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./flask_server.pid
[13:26] <boodllebat> ctrl+c kills a running process or ctrl+z ?
[13:26] <TJ-> Guest22922: Well, it's your system; maybe the file-system doesn't support attributes?
[13:26] <Guest22922> kill <processid>
[13:27] <Guest22922> would that be bad in context of my `pre-stop script` upstart stanza?
[13:27] <boodllebat> Guest22922: no i mean when you are running a process in terminal and it comes to blocking stage
[13:27] <Guest22922> ctrl+c unblocks, and stops it
[13:27] <Guest22922> you could check `ps -e` afterwards
[13:28] <boodllebat> Guest22922: alright thanks :)
[13:28] <TJ-> boodllebat: Ctrl+C sends SIGABRT, Ctrl+Z send SIGSTOP
[13:29] <boodllebat> TJ-: so what kills process completely , cause i can see when i press ctrl+z process gets terminated from terminal but still running under cpu
[13:29] <Guest22922> do i need support attributes for my file-system if i want my `pre-stop script` stanza to append to a supposed existing file (if not create it)?
[13:30] <Guest22922> if you need the terminal: i would ctrl+c, then check if the process exists, and explicitly kill it
[13:30] <Guest22922> but im a linux noob haha
[13:30] <TJ-> boodllebat: SIGABRT (if the process respects it), otherwise use "kill -TERM" or "kill -KILL"
[13:31] <boodllebat> TJ-: and what about this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-pastebin/+bug/1471570 ? any progrss ?
[13:31] <TJ-> Guest22922: You need to ask the Vagrant folks; this isn't an Ubuntu issue so far as I can see
[13:32] <TJ-> boodllebat: It's Canonical - older projects of theirs get little love or get forgotten. You can try emailing the project owner directly
[13:32] <boodllebat> TJ-: alight okay thanks :)
[13:34] <Ntemis> hey guys
[13:34] <Ntemis> i need help installing wine1.7
[13:34] <Ntemis> it says i kept broken packages
[13:35] <OerHeks> Ntemis, only wine1.62 is in our repos, how do you get wine 1.7?
[13:35] <Ntemis> ppa
[13:36] <Ntemis> 1.62 will do also
[13:36] <OerHeks> 'broken packages' can be fixed with 'sudo apt-get install -f"
[13:36] <Ntemis> nothing there
[13:36] <OerHeks> carefull with PPA's, they are not supported
[13:36] <Ntemis> did fix anything
[13:36] <Ntemis> didnt
[13:37] <Ntemis> Recommends: libosmesa6 but it is not going to be installed
[13:37] <Guest22922> don't use PPA's, use puppet modules
[13:38] <Ntemis> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[13:38] <Ntemis>  wine1.7 : Depends: wine1.7-i386 (= 1:1.7.44-0ubuntu1)
[13:38] <Ntemis> help?
[13:39] <OerHeks> Ntemis, remove that broken PPA with ppa-purge, and install the repo version ?
[13:39] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[13:39] <OerHeks> else contact the ppa owner
[13:39] <Ntemis> let me purge it
[13:40] <TJ-> Ntemis: I have wine1.7 without an issue on amd64; I think your problem is you haven't added i386 as a foreign architecture for multilib support
[13:40] <Ntemis> problem started after hw layer update to
[13:40] <Ntemis> hw stack update
[13:40] <Ntemis> a while ago and i left it there
[13:41] <Ntemis> PPA purged successfully
[13:41] <Ntemis> now what?
[13:41] <TJ-> Ntemis:  "apt-cache depends wine1.7-i386 | grep osmesa" => "Recommends: libosmesa6:i386" <--- notice the ":i386"
[13:41] <Ntemis> yes i noticed
[13:41] <Ntemis> but am on 64bit os
[13:41] <Ntemis> so it doesnt make sense to me
[13:41] <Daekdroom> Yes, but Wine supports 32-bit apps.
[13:42] <TJ-> Ntemis: "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" [13:42] <Ntemis> shit i just purged the ppa
[13:43] <Ntemis> after ppa is gone wine1.6 : Depends: wine1.6-i386 (= 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4)
[13:43] <Ntemis> :p
[13:43] <Ntemis> OerHeks: :p
[13:43] <TJ-> Ntemis: If it isn't there then "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" then "sudo apt-get update" to fetch the i386 package lists, then wine will install fine
[13:44] <Andreas33> :-)
[13:45] <Ntemis> TJ-: nope same issue
[13:46] <Ntemis> pita
[13:48] <Ntemis> LOL wine1.7:i386 : Depends: wine1.7-i386:i386 (= 1:1.7.44-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[13:49] <Ntemis> am about to start building from source
[13:49] <Ntemis> have mercy on me
[13:49] <EriC^^> Ntemis: do sudo apt-get install wine1.7-i386 and get the error
[13:49] <EriC^^> it's fixable
[13:49] <Ntemis> nope
[13:49] <edgy> Hi, I set my apache to event mpm but with every apache update in my ubuntu server, it reverts back to prefork how can I fix this?
[13:50] <EriC^^> Ntemis: sure it is
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> edgy  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[13:50] <Ntemis> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/Tw3bBZCr
[13:51] <edgy> MonkeyDust: ok already did but this is not specific to ubuntu server edition, it happens with desktop version too
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> edgy  i hope edgy is not the release you're working with...
[13:52] <TJ-> Ntemis: installs fine here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11861064/
[13:52] <edgy> MonkeyDust: No, I am trusty
[13:52] <EriC^> Ntemis: almost there, run sudo apt-get install libopenal1
[13:53] <Ntemis> libopenal1 is already the newest version.
[13:53] <Ntemis> libopenal1 set to manually installed.
[13:53] <TJ-> Ntemis: have you disabled install-recommends?
[13:53] <Ntemis> not by intention
[13:53] <Ntemis> did i?
[13:53] <EriC^> Ntemis: try sudo apt-get install libopenal1:i386
[13:54] <Ntemis> EriC^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11861072/
[13:55] <EriC^> Ntemis: try sudo apt-get -f install
[13:55] <EriC^> we're getting there
[13:56] <Ntemis> cant find any package that needs force to install
[13:56] <EriC^> Ntemis: did you type install -f ?
[13:56] <Ntemis> yeap
[13:56] <EriC^> try -f install
[13:57] <Ntemis> EriC^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11861082/
[13:58] <OerHeks> EriC^, that is new to me, what is the diff: install -f <> -f install ??
[13:59] <jbgarcia1476[AwA> ciao
[13:59] <jbgarcia1476[AwA> !list
[13:59] <EriC^> OerHeks: -f install is as you know it
[13:59] <EriC^> install -f is to force a package installation i think
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> that -f mean fix
[13:59] <EriC^> Ntemis: try sudo apt-get install cheese*
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> means*
[14:00] <Ntemis> EriC^: cheese?
[14:00] <EriC^> Ntemis: yeah, it's odd but it might work
[14:00] <EriC^> cheese* with a star
[14:01] <Ntemis> nope http://paste.ubuntu.com/11861099/
[14:01] <EriC^> try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:01] <Ntemis> nope
[14:02] <Ntemis> pita
[14:02] <Ntemis> all these issues are after sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:02] <Ntemis> sorry
[14:02] <Ntemis> all these issues are after LTS Enablement Stacks
[14:02] <Ntemis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[14:02] <TJ-> Something messed up there... probably the more recent MESA stack causing this
[14:03] <Ntemis> on plaint trusty hw stack wine was working fine
[14:03] <TJ-> Ntemis: That is 14.04 isn't it?
[14:03] <Ntemis> yeap with utopic hw stack that broke wine
[14:04] <Sewerrat> Hey, does anybody have experience wiping a chromebook and permanentaly installing ubuntu? (not with crouton)
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> Ntemis  what's the ubuntu version you're working on?
[14:04] <Ntemis> 14.04.2
[14:04] <Ntemis> Linux demetris-System-Product-Name 3.16.0-44-generic #59~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 7 15:07:27 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:05] <Ntemis> system is a ok
[14:05] <Ntemis> just wine is toast
[14:05] <Ntemis> i purged it because after the hw stack wasnt working and cant install it anymore
[14:06] <compdoc> Sewerrat, is there some problem install ubuntu the normal way?
[14:07] <DocMAX2> hi i have problems with systemctl
[14:07] <DocMAX2> i cant change Restart= property to always
[14:18] <hayman> hello please can you help
[14:19] <batou_> hayman: what's up?
[14:19] <hayman> glsl 1.30 is not supported
[14:19] <hayman> on ubuntu
[14:19] <hayman> when i try to run dolphin
[14:19] <hayman> emu
[14:20] <hayman> thanks
[14:21] <batou_> graphics card or driver doesn't support that glsl version. I have no idea how to find out what your current setup has. One for someone else.
[14:21] <SCHAAP137> hayman, what graphics chipset are you using?
[14:21] <hayman> ok thanks batou
[14:21] <hayman> it is the Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset
[14:21]  * batou_ has intel graphics. Nothing works properly on it.
[14:22] <SCHAAP137> okay, that chipset probably doesn't support that Shader level
[14:22] <hayman> oh okay is there anything i can try
[14:22] <Guest82865> it's 7 years old, yeah...
[14:22] <SCHAAP137> depends, hayman
[14:22] <hayman> oh okay
[14:23] <batou_> Apparently dolphin only supports HD3000 and above which is newer than the GM45
[14:23] <batou_> see: https://dolphin-emu.org/docs/faq/#which-gpu-do-i-need
[14:23] <hayman> oh okay then thanks for your help in finding that out
[14:24] <hayman> ill give it a try (:-{)
[14:24] <kichuku> Is there a tool for uploading videos to youtube from command line?
[14:24] <kichuku> I have tried https://github.com/tokland/youtube-upload and it doesn't work.
[14:24] <kichuku> Is there any other tool?
[14:26] <batou_> yes: https://developers.google.com/youtube/v3/docs/videos/insert#examples
[14:26] <batou_> various languages can talk to youtube API to upload
[14:27] <batou_> I don't think there is a canned solution that does everything. I couldn't find one anyway so we moved all our crap to vimeo which is easier.
[14:28] <conall> Hi All, I have just downloaded ubuntu 15.04 and installed it on a usb via "Startup disk creator". The problem is, it seems to be a uefi install and if I install ubuntu with this usb I will overwrite my windows installation
[14:28] <conall> Does anyone know hoe to install ubutnu 15.04 in bios mode?
[14:29] <TJ-> conall: That doesn't sound correct; the installer should/will install alongside other OSs
[14:29] <TJ-> conall: In fact, in UEFI mode, the installation is less likely to upset the Windows boot than using BIOS mode
[14:29] <OerHeks> maybe your hdd is GPT, so the ubuntu installer does not see partitions?
[14:30] <conall> Do I have to switch to uefi mode to install ubntu?
[14:30] <TJ-> conall: if the system is already using UEFI that is what you would be best using for Ubuntu too
[14:31] <EriC^> conall: if windows is installed in uefi mode you need to install ubuntu in uefi mode as well
[14:31] <conall> Ok, but the system uses bios
[14:31] <conall> Windows is installed in bios mode
[14:31] <EriC^> conall: how are you booting the usb?
[14:32] <conall> I reboot my machine, press f12, select the "usb" option under "Legacy mode"
[14:32] <conall> this results in an error
[14:32] <TJ-> conall: You mean Windows is installed in legacy BIOS mode? In which case also boot the installer in legacy mode and the installer will use that
[14:32] <conall> I forget what exactly it says, but something like OS not found
[14:32] <EriC^> conall: how did you create the usb?
[14:33] <conall> TJ-, I tried to, but I get an error when I do that
[14:33] <TJ-> conall: Have you checked the hash checksum of the image on the USB device against that published in the download page for the ISO?
[14:33] <conall> The built in startup disk creator
[14:33] <conall> TJ-, no I have not
[14:33] <conall> I will do that now
[14:34] <TJ-> conall: The ISO images a re hybrib bootable: BIOS/UEFI and optical media ISO9660/El Torito, so if there's a problem its likely a corrupted image
[14:34] <conall> Where can I find the checksum?
[14:34] <EriC^> !hashes
[14:34] <conall> ty
[14:35] <TJ-> EriC^: I wish that also showed how to calculate the hash from the installation media itself
[14:36] <EriC^> TJ-: there's a md5sum.txt in the installation media, md5sum -c md5sum.txt is helpful i guess
[14:36] <TJ-> EriC^: That doesn't help on how to calculate the hash on the installation media though; for that, you have to calculate the hash over the exact same number of bytes in the ISO
[14:37] <conall> I just did a "md5sum ubuntu...."
[14:37] <conall> And they are the same
[14:37] <batou_> That's good enough
[14:37] <conall> So any ideas why I cant boot into ubuntu?
[14:38] <conall> I suppose Ill try installing it again on my usb
[14:38] <batou_> Can you run it in a virtual machine (virtualbox) ?
[14:38] <batou_> Ashamedly that's what I do.
[14:38] <EriC^> conall: TJ- if he installs in uefi mode, could he possibly after the installation installation grub-pc and it would boot in legacy mode or he'd have to be booted in legacy mode for that?
[14:39] <EriC^> ( and make a bios-boot partition )
[14:40] <TJ-> EriC^: Yes, but rather convoluted if you're not familiar with doing that sort of hack
[14:41] <EriC^> it would work though?
[14:41] <TJ-> EriC^: I'm more concerned the image on the USB is incorrect. If the CSM is reporting No Operating System that means it can't read the MBR partition table
[14:41] <EriC^> you can't do that in reverse though right? booting in legacy and then installing grub-efi cause you need the efivars right? or you could also load those later?
[14:41] <EriC^> TJ-: yeah this is just a last resort sort of thing
[14:43] <TJ-> EriC^: It can be done, yes, if you hack it - mainly by copying the grubx64.efi to /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI so the UEFI can use the simple boot protocol on the initial UEFI boot when there is not boot menu entry, and from there grub-install ... to trigger efibootmgr
[14:43] <EriC^> conall: try the integrity check of the usb, boot in uefi mode and see if you get the integrity check option and run it, maybe the usb is damaged or something
[14:43] <conall> Will do, Its almost finished installing on usb now
[14:43] <conall> Also, Runs fine in virtualbox
[14:45]  * batou_ remembers when Unix itself was smaller than a UEFI setup...
[14:45] <TJ-> EriC^: conall: I use this to ensure the hash of installation media: DEV="/dev/sdX"; "ISO="/path/to/image.iso"; sudo dd if=$DEV obs=$(stat -c %s $ISO) count=1 | md5sum -b"
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> batou_  blame whoever invented/introduced UEFI
[14:46] <batou_> MonkeyDust: indeed
[14:46] <batou_> so basically Microsoft!
[14:46] <conall> Ok, install completed. Will reboot and try installing again. Ill let ye know how I get on
[14:47] <batou_> Finally remembered why I logged in to IRC. Does anyone know how to set up a virtual PDF printer using CUPS? I'm looking at CUPS admin via http://localhost:631/ but add printer doesn't show anything. Also I can't find anything in apt-cache that looks about right. Any help appreciated :-)
[14:47] <EriC^> TJ-: cool
[14:47] <TJ-> batou_: Nothing to do with Microsoft; EFI began with Intel and then was adopted as an industry standard. MS mandated UEFI/SecureBoot as a way to secure their OS from boot-loader exploits
[14:48] <batou_> Fair point. I wanted OpenBoot for the PC to be honest. That worked well
[14:48] <SchrodingersScat> batou_: I'm in xubuntu, but I have a 'Print to File' whenever I go to print.  This was default afaik.
[14:49] <TJ-> batou_: "cups-pdf" ?
[14:50] <batou_> I'm not printing from the UI - using lpr
[14:50] <anttal> hi guys
[14:50] <anttal> anttal@losanttals:~$ echo -n "test" | md5sum output is 098f6bcd4621d373cade4e832627b4f6  -
[14:50] <batou_> TJ-, thank you - I must have waltzed straight past that! It's right there in apt-cache!
[14:50] <anttal> why there is a -
[14:51] <SchrodingersScat> anttal: shorthand for stdin
[14:51] <kokut> anttal: does it bother you?
[14:51] <TJ-> anttal: read "man md5sum" - represents stdin
[14:51] <anttal> kokut yea, im making bash script what salt passwords and send to mysql
[14:52] <kokut> anttal: where are the passwords coming from?
[14:52] <anttal> hallintapassu=`date +%s%N|sha256sum|base64|head -c 10`
[14:53] <anttal> hash="$(echo -n "$hallintapassu" | md5sum )"
[14:53] <batou_> and I have a PDF printer. Thank you TJ- :-)
[14:53] <anttal> then i need to make a php enivroment what uses that data
[14:53] <anttal> so i dont like external markers :/
[14:54] <kokut> anttal: so its for web :) why dont u do it all with php.. ?
[14:54] <anttal> kokut no its bash script
[14:54] <anttal> passwords are generated and stored by bash
[14:54] <anttal> i dont want to make external variable to php to that
[14:55] <anttal> it would be stupid IMO
[14:55] <anttal> is there ez solution?
[14:55] <TJ-> anttal: yes; piipe the output through a sed/awk/cut filter
[14:55] <kokut> anttal: whats bothering you then?
[14:55] <anttal> that "-"
[14:56] <anttal> if i make code that compare hash
[14:56] <anttal> its not rly nice :/
[14:56] <TJ-> anttal:  as in "echo "xxx -" | cut -d\  -f 1 "
[14:58] <anttal> TJ- i love u <3
[14:59] <anttal> is my way to generate password good?
[14:59] <anttal> or md5 hash overall
[14:59] <anttal> they are not bank account but still :D
[14:59] <conall> Hi again guys.
[15:00] <EriC^> hi conall any luck?
[15:00] <conall> Managed to boot into ubuntu
[15:00] <EriC^> cool
[15:00] <conall> The error was "Missing parameter configuration : path"
[15:01] <conall> So I googled it, and at the prompt I typed "help"
[15:01] <conall> and then worked fine
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> conall  what was your issue?
[15:01] <conall> I counldnt boot into ubuntu in bios mode
[15:02] <TJ-> anttal: why not use the system chpasswd tool?
[15:02] <sehnsucht> is the auto-hide being very unreliablea a known issue? I have a more or less fresh install (few days old) and regardless of whether i try `left edge` or `top left corner` i find that sometimes it just ignores me totally and i have to hit super to get it to appear
[15:03] <sehnsucht> this happened a year or two ago on a previous install as well as on this (different) pc so it's not a dodgy install, dodgy hardware etc. i'm using a pretty standard bit of kit
[15:03] <sehnsucht> ubuntu 14.04.2 64 bit
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> sehnsucht  i take it, you're talking about the task bar?
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> sehnsucht  in Unity?
[15:04] <sehnsucht> yes, that's it.    and yes.
[15:04] <anttal> TJ- it requires roots?
[15:04] <anttal> i dont want to run script though php on root :O
[15:04] <sehnsucht> sometimes nothing happens, sometimes the left edge sort of glows grey but nothing happens.
[15:05] <sehnsucht> i've learnt some shortcuts now but i had to google on my phone as i could launch no apps with the taskbar gone!
[15:05] <sehnsucht> surely this is simple, basic functionality. it should "Just work".  the mouse.x < 30 so throw the task bar up. how can it not work?
[15:05] <TJ-> anttal: read the man-page; you can configure a ROOT--root  location so it doesn't have to affect "/etc/", if your application is able to use the passwd/shadow file formats
[15:06] <nmatrix9> Anyone here have issues with their Xubuntu mouse cursor being invisible in certain applications?  E.g chrome, java swing applications etc?
[15:06] <TJ-> anttal: The other obvious option, if the PHP is a web application, is to use htpasswd
[15:07] <anttal> TJ- my enivroment needs command line through php
[15:07] <sehnsucht> does it depend on an app having focus, not having focus etc?
[15:07] <anttal> there is things that i need to access
[15:07] <anttal> i have to use bash/php for that
[15:08] <anttal> and every user gon unique privaligies
[15:08] <anttal> *got
[15:08] <TJ-> anttal: OK, but htpasswd generates passwords and files - it is used mostly for generating .htaccess
[15:08] <nmatrix9> sehnsucht, me?  When applications have focus it becomes invisible
[15:09] <nmatrix9> sehnsucht, certain applications
[15:09] <sehnsucht> nmatrix9: sorry, not you. not had your problem, but i've only been back on unbuntu for a couple of days
[15:09] <anttal> this is not ubuntu question
[15:09] <anttal> but
[15:09] <anttal> paattyy=`date --date"+30day" +%Y-%m-%d`
[15:09] <sehnsucht> monkeydust: problem seems worse when top-left corner is selected
[15:09] <anttal> what i have to do to make mysql accept that?
[15:09] <anttal> it only prints 000-00-00
[15:13] <DocMAX2> i cant change Restart= property to always
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> sehnsucht  ok, but desktop effects are the first thing I disable
[15:15] <sehnsucht> monkeydust:  which effects? i've not mentioned - or changed - anything in that respect
[15:16] <MrJones> so why is this bug in a core system management tool from 2004 not fixed in ubuntu? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=239238
[15:20] <TJ-> MrJones: it is in Ubuntu
[15:22] <grteyuh> So I looking at this new text editor called Atom. I see that a lot of the K/B shortcuts are Cmd+<key> or cmd+Alt+<key>. IIRC cmd keys are only available in Mac. Is there a way to do these shortcuts on Ubuntu? Or should the creators of Atom change something?
[15:23] <LibertyWeNeed> What is the command similar to sudo, that gives me all the permissions i need to delete something that just won't go.
[15:25] <OerHeks> MrJones, current is 3.113, 3.52 is more than 10 years old
[15:25] <Guest22922> TJ, i will have the upstart script figured out in less than 10 minutes
[15:25] <Guest22922> testing some cases
[15:25] <grteyuh> LibertyWeNeed: sudo gives permissions ... rm is the command for removing files..
[15:26] <LibertyWeNeed> I mean it's a stronger root command. Instead of saying Sudo apt-get     it's xxx apt-get, but i don't know what the xxx is
[15:27] <LibertyWeNeed> it's a more stronger command
[15:27] <LibertyWeNeed> BUt I have forgetten it
[15:27] <OerHeks> LibertyWeNeed, there is no other command AFAIK
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> LibertyWeNeed  what could be stronger than 'omnipotent'?
[15:28] <OerHeks> Where do you get that info ?
[15:28] <eb0t> maybe your getting confused and the thing you think is a stornger command is just apptitude rather tha apt-get
[15:29] <Guest22922> basically, i need to execute my pre-stop script before the /vagrant directory unmounts during shutdown, since i've defined my custom log files as a subdirectory of /vagrant
[15:30] <Guest22922> so, i'm trying `if [ "$MOUNTPOINT" == "/vagrant" ]; then` in my `pre-stop` stanza
[15:30] <OerHeks> EriC^, tried to find out the diff >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/647207/installation-dependency-problem-solving i am not sure now
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> Guest22922  tye /j #vagrant
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> Guest22922  type /j #vagrant
[15:31] <Guest22922> sometimes it works - most of the time it doesn't
[15:32] <Guest22922> so, i'm going to look in upstart docs if it can detect when a directory gets unmounted
[15:32] <TJ-> OerHeks: you're correct; position of the option ("-f") has no bearing
[15:32] <OerHeks> TJ-, thank you, i wondered earlier on.
[15:37] <BBLLCC> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11861514/
[15:38] <TJ-> BBLLCC: looking
[15:39] <LibertyWeNeed> What's the command to install .deb in the terminal?
[15:39] <TJ-> BBLLCC: confirmed the setting is used "ACPI: Overriding _OS definition to 'Windows 2001'" - line 24030
[15:39] <TJ-> LibertyWeNeed: "dpkg -i"
[15:39] <BBLLCC> TJ-, so there is nothing i can do to fix it?
[15:40] <TJ-> BBLLCC: give me chance... I'm just reporting what I find as I go :)
[15:40] <TJ-> BBLLCC: line 2409: "[Firmware Bug]: ACPI: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored"
[15:44] <MrJones> OerHeks: that bug still seems to be present though
[15:44] <blib> how do I check if my ubuntu box can do bluetooth?
[15:44] <MrJones> I cannot create a user for which a group of the same name exists
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> MrJones  sounds reasonable
[15:46] <TJ-> BBLLCC: line 24111 "_OSC failed (AE_NOT_FOUND); disabling ASPM" ... so no PCI ASPM available on that PC.
[15:46] <TJ-> BBLLCC: Nothing else to show; so it looks like its a PC/firmware bug for sure
[15:47] <BBLLCC> crap
[15:47] <BBLLCC> but thanks
[15:55] <BBLLCC> TJ-, BIOS has 3 options: windows, mac, other. it is currently on "windows" but xubuntu loads fine. WOuld changingn that be useful?
[15:55] <BBLLCC> OS options I mean
[15:56] <TJ-> BBLLCC: I have no idea; what does that setting control?
[15:56] <BBLLCC> TJ-, just the name of the OS you load... i never noticed any difference
[15:57] <yeats> BBLLCC: rule of thumb: if it's working, leave it alone ;-)
[15:57] <BBLLCC> crappy firmware
[15:57] <BBLLCC> what computers that come with freeware bios are there?
[15:57] <TJ-> BBLLCC: that might affect the ACPI ID, but unless the manual describes what it does it is anyones guess
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> BBLLCC  RMS uses his own custom made BIOS
[16:02] <TJ-> BBLLCC: is that the "Installed OS" setting you refer to?
[16:02] <BBLLCC> MonkeyDust, is there a page for that? I mean freeware bios computers
[16:02] <BBLLCC> TJ-, yes, i thought that was called bios
[16:02] <BBLLCC> o no
[16:02] <BBLLCC> ill copy it next time I log in
[16:05] <TJ-> BBLLCC: I'm not 100% sure I'm looking at the correct user manual - the way Clevo lists the models doesn't precisely match with the model number
[16:06] <TJ-> BBLLCC: It may change the ACPI DSDT presented, so using that *plus* removing the kernel command-line option "acpi_os_name" *may* do something different
[16:08] <BBLLCC> TJ-, im not in the mood to rest, ill let you know when i do it
[16:08] <BBLLCC> reset
[16:08] <TJ-> BBLLCC: I can image :)
[16:08] <TJ-> BBLLCC: I think you'll just have to put up with it
[16:13] <FourFire> Greetings, I am trying to fix issues I have with a BCM4352 AC wireless card on Ubuntu 15.04
[16:13] <FourFire> found this thread so far: http://askubuntu.com/questions/333424/how-can-i-check-the-information-of-currently-installed-wifi-drivers
[16:14] <rockstar_> recently installed ubuntu and its suddenly slow. Compiz started taking 50% cpu. Any suggestion?
[16:14] <OerHeks> !bcm
[16:15] <FourFire> the output for lspci | grep -A2 0280 is "wl"
[16:15] <FourFire> so I "modinfo wl"
[16:15] <FourFire> how do I test it, like toggle it on/off ?
[16:16] <FourFire> problem: I don't have a networking icon in the panel
[16:19] <OerHeks> FourFire, maybe this page is any help, http://askubuntu.com/questions/590442/how-can-i-install-broadcom-wireless-adapter-bcm4352-802-11ac-pcid-14e443b1-r
[16:20] <FourFire> cool, I'll try it
[16:31] <noobsie> How can I change the terminal text size in gnome-session-fallback? In Unity, you right click the terminal window and go to Profile... is there a similar feature in gnome?
[16:33] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: it's in the Settings/Preferences/Interface/Appearance menu
[16:34] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: WAIT that's for HexChat sorry
[16:36] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: Edit/Profiles/   then click on edit to edit 7your selected profile
[16:37] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: it's under the General Tab then
[16:39] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: also as you said ... right click select Profiles then "Profile Preferences"
[16:39] <Raccoon1400> I need to get rid of my separate boot partition. Is there an easy way to do this? It is too small and that is preventing me from updating the system
[16:40] <OerHeks> Raccoon1400, you might want to remove unused kernels, much easier
[16:41] <noobsie> Tex_Nick: How do I get to "edit"?
[16:41] <Raccoon1400> OerHeks: whatever works. How do I do this?
[16:42] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: doesn't gnome terminal have a menu bar at top ?
[16:42] <Raccoon1400> OerHeks: Its a pretty fresh install don't know it had a chance to build up old kernels
[16:43] <noobsie> Tex_Nick: yes, it has a menu bar at the top that says "applications" and "places"
[16:44] <noobsie> Tex_Nick: under Applications there are Accessories, Graphics, Office, System Tools
[16:44] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: OK that's the system menu bar ... hit CTRL+ALT+T to open the terminal
[16:44] <noobsie> Tex_Nick: done!
[16:45] <OerHeks> Raccoon1400, if the install is fresh, your manually made /boot is too small, normally the blue line in this post removes them all, except current and the one before that. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2240697
[16:45] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: now use the gnome terminal menu or right click on terminal window ?
[16:45] <OerHeks> if you need to repartition, you'll need a live cd to do that.
[16:45] <noobsie> Tex_Nick: if I right click the terminal, all I get is options to resize terminal window and workspace options. Unlke Unity, I do not have the option to choose "Profile"
[16:46] <Raccoon1400> OerHeks: I'll try that. It was big  enough for previous installs. If the remove old kernels doesn't fix, seems the best way would be to abandon the partition and install the files on the /
[16:47] <OerHeks> Raccoon1400, use gparted to shrink one of the partitions next to /boot, and expand /boot into the newly freed space.
[16:47] <OerHeks> you can easily move the slider
[16:47] <Raccoon1400> OerHeks: I can do that, will take a while to move the next partition though
[16:47] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: are you right clicking on the terminal window or the top pannel ?
[16:48] <Anchor> hi
[16:48] <noobsie> Tex_Nick: If I right click the window itself, not the top panel, I get nothing
[16:48] <noobsie> Tex_Nick: in fact, it tries to highlight the line
[16:51] <ioria> noobsie, are you sure to be in gnome-terminal and not in xterm ? (sorry for asking)
[16:51] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: well sir afraid I can't help then ... I'm using gnome-session-fallback with gnome terminal
[16:52] <noobsie> ioria: I didn't know there was a difference. There is a big x in the icon so I;m assumnig xterm.
[16:52] <ioria> noobsie, type who
[16:53] <noobsie> ioria: type "who" what? It list my username with the dots
[16:53] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: hey have a look at Settings/Appearance and see if "Show the menus for a window"/"In the windows title bar" is checked ?
[16:53] <ioria> noobsie, better, type xterm   if the windows is the same, you are in xterm
[16:54] <noobsie> so how do I get to gnome terminal and set that as a default for when I press ctrl+alt+t?
[16:54] <ioria> noobsie, type gnome-terminal
[16:56] <noobsie> Tex_Nick: I tried that, nothing there that could help
[16:56] <noobsie> ioria: installing gnome-terminal now.  It works!!! Thanks! :D
[16:57] <ioria> noobsie, great !
[16:58] <Tex_Nick> ioria: good job man I didn't think of it being xterm lol ;-)
[16:58] <ioria> ^o^
[16:58] <HypothesisFrog> is there a way to get a desktop to automatically suspend in 15.04? I want to save power.
[16:59] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: great man ioria got ya going man :)
[16:59] <noobsie> ioria: How can I add some sort of icon to start it?
[16:59] <ioria> Tex_Nick, tx, no one use xterm .... it's archeology :-)
[16:59] <noobsie> Tex_Nick: you tried and I appreciate any response.
[16:59] <ioria> noobsie, a .desktop file on the desktop
[16:59] <Tex_Nick> ioria: LOL ;-)
[17:08] <foobar12> noobsie, in addition to the .desktop file, if you're using fallback, alt + right-clicking on an empty region of one of your panels should bring up a context menu which has an Add Launcher option to add a launcher to the panel; after you have your launcher, if you want to move or remove it, you can alt + right-click on the launcher for a context menu with those options
[17:09] <cofo> How do I download a source code that it's a software?
[17:09] <cofo> like there is man ... I found a github but I'm not sure it's the same one or rebuild
[17:10] <ikonia> cofo: what's the issue ?
[17:11] <cofo> How do I get a source code like CURL?
[17:11] <cofo> Like download it
[17:12] <cofo> I found curl github but i don't know if it's rebuild
[17:12] <ikonia> a rebuild ?
[17:12] <ikonia> cofo: whats the problem you're trying to solve
[17:12] <ioria> maybe git clone
[17:12] <cofo> no
[17:12] <cofo> I want to download curl source code
[17:12] <cofo> The source code is only in github or I can download it from original place?
[17:12] <bekks> cofo: Whats the problem your are trying to solve by downloading the curl source?
[17:12] <ikonia> what do you mean the "original place" ?
[17:12] <foobar12> cofo, if you want to download the source of an ubuntu package, `apt-get source <package name>`
[17:13] <cofo> and where would it save?
[17:13] <ikonia> cofo: what's the problem you're trying to solve
[17:13] <ikonia> lets find out what you need and why
[17:13] <noobsie> foobar12: it works. thanks!
[17:13] <foobar12> no problem
[17:13] <cofo> No why. I want to download it
[17:13] <ikonia> cofo: whats the problem you're trying to solve
[17:13] <ikonia> lets see if we can get you the right info
[17:13] <bekks> cofo: So go to the project homepage of curl and download it.
[17:14] <cofo> Download cURL source code
[17:14] <cofo> But in terminal..
[17:14] <ikonia> cofo: why ?
[17:14] <ikonia> whats the PROBLEM
[17:14] <bekks> cofo: wget.
[17:14] <ikonia> why do you need the curl source code
[17:14] <ioria> wget
[17:14] <cofo> I want to know how Post works
[17:14] <ikonia> "post" ?
[17:15] <foobar12> cofo, `apt-get source <package name>` should download to the current directory
[17:15] <tgm4883> cofo: you would get it from https://github.com/bagder/curl
[17:15] <cofo> I tried it said I need to put source in sources.list
[17:15] <cofo> tgm4883: is that the original one?
[17:15] <ikonia> cofo: I think you are going to create a problem here
[17:15] <tgm4883> cofo: yes, according to the curl website it is  http://curl.haxx.se/dev/source.html
[17:15] <ikonia> lets step back and find out the problem you are trying to solve here
[17:15] <ikonia> you think the solution is to download curl - lets forget that for a moment
[17:16] <ikonia> whats the problem
[17:16] <tgm4883> cofo: but I agree with ikonia, what exactly are you trying to do
[17:16] <cofo> sprry
[17:16] <cofo> I want to make a program to send post
[17:16] <cofo> Because I can't figured out how to use curl with how much requests to send
[17:16] <ikonia> as in a http post request ?
[17:17] <cofo> i made the curl by copying from firefox(lol)..
[17:17] <cofo> I don't wanna do something like curl . curl. curl...
[17:17] <ikonia> I don't think downloading curl source code will help
[17:17] <cofo> I want to do something like curl -times 3
[17:17] <ikonia> that is a specific implimenation
[17:17] <ikonia> cofo: so a simple shell script with curl would allow you to do that
[17:17] <tgm4883> cofo: I think you need to step back even further and tell us what you are trying to post
[17:18] <cofo> Posting on forum
[17:18] <ikonia> so you are trying to spam a forum ?
[17:18] <cofo> no
[17:18] <cofo> Where did I say that?
[17:19] <oscarhbp> wecrack as installed ubuntu 14.04
[17:19] <ikonia> I'm asking
[17:19] <ikonia> as to use a curl -3 times indicates multiple posts to a website
[17:19] <ikonia> multiple posts to a forum normall = spam
[17:19] <ikonia> normaly
[17:19] <cofo> it wll works?
[17:19] <ikonia> will what work ?
[17:19] <cofo> curl -3 will send 3 posts?
[17:19] <ikonia> no
[17:19] <oscarhbp> wepcrack as installed ubuntu 14.04
[17:20] <ikonia> and to be honest, I think you're trying to spam a forum, so I'm not going to help with that
[17:20] <cofo> I just want to contribute to my friend forum
[17:20] <ikonia> then open a web browser
[17:20] <ikonia> and post like everyone else
[17:20] <cofo> In my way
[17:20] <ikonia> I don't know what you mean "in your way"
[17:21] <cofo> Why do you investigate so much?
[17:21] <ikonia> to try to give you good help
[17:21] <ioria> cofo to compile from source you'll need probably a lot of stuff. some of those stuff could mess up your ubuntu
[17:22] <cofo> From an experience or what you think?
[17:22] <sixunhuit> Greetings. What are the steps you would take after a hard freeze to troubleshoot?
[17:22] <ioria> cofo both
[17:22] <ikonia> cofo: you do not want the curl source code
[17:22] <cofo> I do want
[17:22] <ikonia> cofo: I suggest you open a browser and use a forum as it is meant to be
[17:22] <cofo> You don't tell me what I want .__.
[17:22] <ikonia> helping you spam a forum is not an #ubuntu issue
[17:22] <ikonia> so I suggest you leave this issue alone
[17:22] <cofo> It's curl issue
[17:22] <ikonia> it's not a a curl issue
[17:22] <ikonia> curl works just fine
[17:23] <cofo> All I ask is how to send X requests
[17:23] <ikonia> and I don't believe it wise to help you
[17:23] <ikonia> as I think you are trying to spam a forum/make false posts
[17:23] <ikonia> and that is not what this channel is for
[17:24] <tgm4883> cofo: in any case, you've already been given the location of the source code and also been told how to do multple posts (run curl multiple times)
[17:24] <cofo> What?
[17:25] <tgm4883> cofo: what what?
[17:25] <bekks> tgm4883: what what what? ;)
[17:25] <cofo> lol
[17:26] <tgm4883> sixunhuit: I would look in /var/log/syslog.1 and see if anything is in there, but I'm thinking probably a kernel panic
[17:27] <cofo> ok nevermind
[17:27] <easyOnMe> anyone here
[17:27] <cofo> hi easyOnMe
[17:27] <sconde> hello, I'm having some issue and was hoping if someone can help
[17:28] <cofo> What is your issue sconde?
[17:28] <tgm4883> sconde: ask
[17:28] <ikonia> just ask your questions
[17:28] <ikonia> if people can help they will
[17:28] <easyOnMe> hi cofo
[17:28] <sconde> I have ubuntu
[17:28] <cofo> Cool
[17:28] <sixunhuit> tgm4883, ok. Any keywords I should be looking for?
[17:28] <sconde> and nvidia driver installed
[17:28] <cofo> You have problem on gpu driver?
[17:28] <bekks> sconde: Try not to use enter for interpunctuation please.
[17:28] <easyOnMe> anyone here who has been a webmaster or web server admin
[17:28] <sconde> but everytime I update, I have to reinstall the driver because my desktop doesnt show up
[17:28] <bekks> easyOnMe: Why?
[17:29] <cofo> Don't ask to ask, just ask
[17:29] <tgm4883> sixunhuit: not sure. I'm not super confident that you'll find anything since it was a hard lock it likely didn't have any time to log anything. But look at the last 10 or so lines
[17:29] <easyOnMe> bekks: because I have website and I just installed wordpress
[17:29] <sixunhuit> tgm4883, thanks. I'm getting those like once a day...
[17:29] <tgm4883> sconde: how did you install the driver?
[17:29] <easyOnMe> but when I do www.websmith.link
[17:29] <DrJ> what is the best way to remote into the active session (what you would see if you were actually sitting at the computer
[17:29] <tgm4883> sixunhuit: hmm, any pattern in them?
[17:29] <cofo> DrJ: VNC
[17:29] <easyOnMe> it says this website is under construction
[17:30] <tgm4883> DrJ: probably something like VNC
[17:30] <cofo> ^
[17:30] <sconde> tgm4883: its from the nvidia install script
[17:30] <__john__> I have a program which needs to communicate a state, which can be described by a single character. I want other programs to be able to get the state when they load and be notified of the state change. What is the best way to do this? (I'm imagining a file in /tmp/, but writing to an actual file seems like overkill and I don't need to save the history of states.)
[17:30] <sconde> a bash script
[17:30] <tgm4883> easyOnMe: sounds like you don't have the apache virtual host setup
[17:30] <DrJ> tgm4883: I figured, any VNC server particular you recommend
[17:30] <easyOnMe> tgm4883: oh so how do I set it up
[17:30] <easyOnMe> can you please help me out
[17:30] <tgm4883> sconde: it's probably not rebuildign the kernel module on update. Why not use the driver in teh repos?
[17:30] <cofo> What is the problem easyOnMe?
[17:30] <tgm4883> easyOnMe: sec
[17:31] <sconde> tgm4883: because I needed the latest version of cuda for some experiment
[17:31] <cofo> sconde: Which  experiment?
[17:31] <sconde> so now I kind of need the software update from ubuntu to not update the nvidia driver
[17:31] <sconde> if that makes sense
[17:31] <sconde> just some cuda codes
[17:32] <tgm4883> sconde: it's not updating it
[17:32] <sconde> I dont follow
[17:32] <easyOnMe> cofo: how do I make my site point to my wordpress
[17:32] <tgm4883> easyOnMe: take a look at http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/vhosts/examples.html
[17:32] <easyOnMe> I just installed wordpress
[17:32] <sixunhuit> tgm4883, may I msg you the pastebnin url of the last few lines?
[17:32] <ikonia> easyOnMe: how did you install wordpress ?
[17:32] <cofo> easyOnMe: redirect it?
[17:33] <tgm4883> sixunhuit: just pastebin it here
[17:33] <sconde> any way I can make the software update not update the nvidia driver?
[17:33] <tgm4883> sixunhuit: the link here I mean
[17:33] <sixunhuit> http://pastebin.com/bNq3E8pf
[17:33] <cofo> A website redirect to website?
[17:33] <foobar12> easyOnMe, you'll need to create a vhost config in /etc/apache2/sites-available using the documentation to which tgm4883 linked
[17:33] <easyOnMe> cofo: when I visit my site
[17:33] <easyOnMe> it says under constructino
[17:33] <cofo> A image would help
[17:33] <cofo> aN*
[17:33] <ikonia> you don't need an image
[17:33] <ikonia> easyOnMe: how did you install ubuntu ?
[17:33] <ikonia> sorry - how did you install wordpress
[17:33] <cofo> LOL
[17:34] <foobar12> easyOnMe, once you have your vhost config set up there, you'll need to enable it with the e2ensite command
[17:34] <tgm4883> sconde: my guess without looking at any logs is that you are updating the kernel when you do the update. That means that a new kernel module needs built for the nvidia driver. This would normally be taken care of by DKMS, but it sounds like the nvidia installer didn't set that up
[17:34] <cofo> ikonia: Is everything okay?
[17:34] <easyOnMe> I uploaded the wordpress files into the public_html folder through ftp
[17:34] <easyOnMe> and then I installed it
[17:34] <ikonia> cofo: everythings fine ? why ?
[17:34] <cofo> everything*
[17:34] <easyOnMe> foobar12: thing is this
[17:34] <ikonia> easyOnMe: ok, so have you setup a site definition in apache to point at that web root ?
[17:35] <sixunhuit> tgm4883, did not notice a pattern but I will start checking my syslog.1. Also, sudo reboot or clicking the reboot button sometimes results in ubuntu logo page with horizontal black lines randomly scattered on the screen (little pixel colors in them).
[17:35] <easyOnMe> I am not using a virtual private server but a regular hosting site
[17:35] <easyOnMe> ikonia: no I have not
[17:35] <ikonia> a regular hosting site ?
[17:35] <sconde> tgm4883: how do I go about checking this?
[17:35] <ikonia> easyOnMe: lets step back a bit
[17:35] <easyOnMe> and I am trying to do that now
[17:35] <ikonia> easyOnMe: is this in a data center, or at home ?
[17:35] <easyOnMe> I am now looking at my control panel
[17:35] <tgm4883> !dkms
[17:36] <ikonia> easyOnMe: who / what are you using for hosting ?
[17:36] <easyOnMe> ikonia: i am using a paid hosting
[17:36] <ikonia> easyOnMe: who ?
[17:36] <tgm4883> easyOnMe: which one
[17:36] <easyOnMe> x3me hosting
[17:36] <tgm4883> sixunhuit: I don't see anything of importance there
[17:37] <easyOnMe> no sorry
[17:37] <easyOnMe> webhostbox.net
[17:37] <baja> hi
[17:37] <ikonia> easyOnMe: what is their URL ?
[17:37] <baja> i want to change destop background
[17:37] <baja> how so i change desktop background
[17:37] <ikonia> easyOnMe: that isn't a live site
[17:37] <tgm4883> sixunhuit: when it locks up, can you get to a terminal by doing ctrl+alt+F1
[17:37] <easyOnMe> ikonia: webhostbox.net
[17:38] <easyOnMe> no mine is a live website
[17:38] <nicholas> guys i have a little problem
[17:38] <ikonia> easyOnMe: webhostbox.net
[17:38] <ikonia> easyOnMe: that doesn't exist
[17:38] <easyOnMe> I can even see my website when I append the site name of my wordpress
[17:38] <sixunhuit> tgm4883, I'll try next time. But event the mouse is frozen. Suppose I can, what should I do then?
[17:38] <nicholas> i'm on mint 17.2 and my battery life is utterly terrible
[17:38] <ikonia> easyOnMe: what is the URL of the people hosting your website
[17:38] <ikonia> nicholas: then ask the mint support channel to assist you
[17:38] <foobar12> baja: if you're on fallback, just right-click on the desktop to get a context menu with a "Change Desktop Background" option; unity may be the same, I'm not sure, I don't use it
[17:38] <tgm4883> !mint | nicholas
[17:39] <easyOnMe> ikonia: the site address is
[17:39] <easyOnMe> www.websmith.link
[17:39] <ikonia> easyOnMe: is that the name of the people who host your servers ?
[17:40] <tgm4883> ikonia: I think webhostbox.net is suppose to work, but their DNS is broke. IDK
[17:41] <easyOnMe> ikonia: http://www.websmith.link/home/
[17:41] <ikonia> tgm4883: yes, I've just found it
[17:41] <ikonia> webhostbox.net.
[17:41] <easyOnMe> can you please visit the site
[17:41] <ikonia> <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:41] <ikonia> easyOnMe: I can see the site it's under construction
[17:41] <easyOnMe> ikonia: ok so how to I make sure that my wordpress can be seen
[17:41] <easyOnMe> have you tried this link: http://www.websmith.link/home/
[17:41] <ikonia> easyOnMe: you're best move would to be ask webhostbox support how they setup their servers as it looks like it'a a control pannel based sevice
[17:42] <tgm4883> ikonia: according to https://twitter.com/webhostbox it's cpanel or plesk?
[17:42] <noobsie> There is a shortcut ctrl+alt+t opens the terminal, but is it possible to set the working dir for this shortcut as well?
[17:42] <ikonia> tgm4883: yes, looks like a black box type setup
[17:42] <easyOnMe> ikonia: yeah I have the cpanel with me
[17:42] <ikonia> easyOnMe: log a support call to webhostbox and ask them for a guide to setup a new site
[17:42] <easyOnMe> in fact I am looking at it right now
[17:42] <cofo> Hi
[17:42] <easyOnMe> I just do not know where to start
[17:43] <cofo> I wanna install wine and virus. Would it infect the os if it's on live?
[17:43] <cofo> running uubntu live
[17:43] <tgm4883> sixunhuit: should also take a read through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash
[17:43] <ikonia> easyOnMe: log a call to webboxhost and ask them for a guide to setup a new web host
[17:43] <ikonia> easyOnMe: thats the best place to start
[17:43]  * tgm4883 sighs
[17:43] <Langit> hai
[17:44] <tgm4883> cofo: gee, I wonder why nobody wants to help you with your legitimate technical issues /s
[17:45] <cofo> Ah?
[17:45] <cofo> I wanna see if a file is virus
[17:45] <cofo> That's why I wanna run it under wine
[17:45] <cofo> No idea what is wrong with you people today..!!
[17:45] <zaggynl> upload it to virustotal.com or malwr.com
[17:45] <cofo> but i wanna see the update
[17:45] <zaggynl> update?
[17:46] <tgm4883> cofo: you don't need to run a file to determine if it's a virus
[17:46] <ikonia> cofo: you're wasting peoples time with your non-ubuntu dubious activities
[17:46] <ikonia> please stop with it now
[17:46] <tgm4883> ikonia: I don't know how you've got so much patience, I would have bounced this fool long ago
[17:47] <cofo> You are a fool, idiot. I wanna test the file before running it on my system. That's not nice to talk like that even in real life. You should same.
[17:47] <cofo> shame*
[17:47] <xangua> cofo: please don't call names
[17:47] <zaggynl> to answer your original question: it --oh well
[17:47] <tgm4883> ikonia: thank you
[17:48] <cofo> hi
[17:49] <ibouvousaime> Ive tried to boot from an ISO file and I got "Error 60: File for drive emulation must be in one contiguous disk area".  as an error any idea to fix it ?
[17:50] <ibouvousaime> any idea about*
[17:50] <ibouvousaime> how to fix it*
[17:50] <cofo> ikonia: you should not ignore
[17:50] <bekks> ibouvousaime: Which iso are you trying to boot, and are you trying to boot some sort of virtual machine?
[17:50] <ikonia> cofo: ignore what ?
[17:51] <cofo> What I sent to you
[17:51] <ikonia> I'm not interested in answering your personal questions, I'm interested in ubuntu discussion in this channel
[17:51] <ibouvousaime> no Its a fedora ISO with grub4dos
[17:51] <ikonia> ibouvousaime: how is this an ubuntu issue then ?
[17:51] <tgm4883> lol
[17:52] <ibouvousaime> the problem isnt about fedora still
[17:52] <cofo> I wanna know how serious person are you,  seems not.
[17:52] <ibouvousaime> but disk emulation
[17:52] <tgm4883> #ubuntu    support channel for everything!
[17:52] <ikonia> ibouvousaime: it looks like this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:52] <ikonia> ibouvousaime: it looks like you're asking in #fedora #ubuntu #puppy - it looks like a puppy problem with your hypervisor
[17:53] <ibouvousaime> sorry, im a bit discouraged
[17:53] <ibouvousaime> Ive spend awhole day on this
[17:53] <ikonia> ibouvousaime: what OS is the hypervisor ?
[17:53] <tgm4883> ibouvousaime: being discourraged doesn't mean you can spam all the channels
[17:53] <ibouvousaime> puppy
[17:53] <ikonia> ibouvousaime: ok - so you need to work this through in the puppy support channel
[17:53] <ikonia> it's not anything to do with ubuntu
[17:54] <ibouvousaime> well sorry for asking here then
[17:54] <ikonia> no problem
[17:55]  * tgm4883 sees a civil conversation take place about not supporting something here and wonders where he is
[18:00] <DanielCE> Hey guys i got alot of emails in my queue ( i guess someone hacked into one of the clients system)
[18:00] <DanielCE> how do i remove them all?
[18:01] <ash_m> when you run sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ ... does that install the latest versions of each?
[18:02] <ash_m> (in the case of php, the latest of version 5
[18:02] <ikonia> it will install the latest version that your ubuntu version supports
[18:02] <ash_m> ikonia: thanks :)
[18:05] <DanielCE> ?
[18:05] <ikonia> problem DanielCE ?
[18:05] <tonyyarusso> DanielCE: With which MTA?  In postfix you can do 'sudo postsuper -d ALL'.  If you have ANY legitimate mail in there that needs to be saved, you need to do it differently though.
[18:05] <DanielCE> yes but its not recognizer the postsuper command
[18:06] <xar> I'm trying to install an IDE following these steps https://github.com/haythemkh/installation-scripts-for-IDEs/blob/master/android-studio-installer.sh it's working, but when I look for the IDE in the search bar, I get it's icon displayed without its name. What's wrong, please?
[18:11] <xar> I'm trying to install an IDE following these steps https://github.com/haythemkh/installation-scripts-for-IDEs/blob/master/android-studio-installer.sh it's working, but when I look for the IDE in the search bar, I get it's icon displayed without its name. What's wrong, please?
[18:15] <coolomatics> xar, i had to start android-studio from the terminal as i tried it
[18:17] <xar> coolomatics, it's working pretty well
[18:18] <xar> coolomatics, but when I look for the ide, i don't get its name displayed
[18:19] <rainbowwarrior> hello how do i disable the overlay scroll bars in Ubuntu 15.04 please ?
[18:20] <coolomatics> xar, right. no real icon and when you add it to the quick launcher it won't work. didn't thought much about that, but just used it from the terminal.
[18:20] <xar> coolomatics, that script does the job, you can pin it to the quick launcher!
[18:21] <xar> coolomatics, it will install it and configure it as a ubuntu app
[18:23] <Tex_Nick> rainbowwarrior: this is for 14.04 but it might apply to 15.04 as well ? ... http://www.itworld.com/article/2698420/disable-overlay-scroll-bars-in-ubuntu-14-04.html
[18:24] <rainbowwarrior> Tex_Nick That worked thank you :)
[18:24] <darius93> just a quick question, is there a way to apply a filter to a guest without manually doing it with virsh edit?
[18:24] <Tex_Nick> rainbowwarrior: you're welcome :)
[18:24] <compdoc> what sort of filter
[18:25] <rainbowwarrior> is this a bug in Ubuntu 15.04 as it seems to think my hard drive is full when it ain't ?
[18:26] <darius93> compdoc, network filter
[18:27] <darius93> base on documents ive been reading, they apply it by editing the domain manually, but i do not see a simple way of doing it without editing it manually
[18:28] <tonyyarusso> darius93: I think you need to edit the XML.
[18:28] <yonatan> Not sure if this belongs here, but does anyone know the easiest way to install pypy3 on ubuntu? I can't find it in the repos (trusty).
[18:29] <rainbowwarrior> Hi , I am running Ubuntu 15.04 and it thinks my hard drive is full when it ain't how can i fix this please ?
[18:29] <darius93> tonyyarusso, i know but is there a simple way without having to edit the domain with virsh edit? Unless the nwfilter is applied to new guest created
[18:29] <darius93> rainbowwarrior, what does df -h show?
[18:29] <tonyyarusso> rainbowwarrior: It might be full, but full by inode count, not bytes.
[18:31] <rainbowwarrior> darius93 :- http://pastebin.com/k85c56tN
[18:31] <rainbowwarrior> tonyyarusso ok thank you
[18:40] <TGYoshi> Hey guys, on a fresh ubuntu server (15.04) there are a million python installations, what's the best way to trash them all and just keep 3.4 [or] get every application use the 3.4 version? (pip seems to refuse, e.g.)
[18:41] <Tumbtack> TGYoshi, different programs rely on different python versions
[18:42] <TGYoshi> Isn't for example pip supposed to work properly on 3.4?
[18:42] <TGYoshi> I've also tried aliasing all the python executables to the 3.4 variant, to no avail :P
[18:53] <blib> do people ever use vagrant or some other light weight vm on ubuntu, just to make sure they can replicate the hardware/software combination easily?  Or is it more the usecase of chef/...?
[18:55] <cofo> what is the command to see the path on my terminal?
[18:56] <SchrodingersScat> cofo: pwd ?
[18:56] <cofo> i wrote this: nautilus --browser $pwd and not work
[18:57] <tieinv> $PATH
[18:57] <mr_rm> is it safe if you are fully up to date and you manually set source.list with the next higher release, then do an update and dist-upgrade?
[18:58] <mr_rm> i mean sources.list
[18:58] <dearn> cofo: not sure what you're doing, but it should be $PWD not $pwd
[18:58] <cofo> it's not work :<
[18:59] <blib> is there a mobile ubuntu room somewhere?
[18:59] <cofo> Why caps?
[18:59] <cofo> It worked. Thanks but why caps...
[19:00] <dearn> cofo: it's case sensitive, all path variables like this - in windows as well
[19:00] <SchrodingersScat> tieinv: you mean $PWD
[19:00] <cofo> Yes
[19:00] <cofo> Why in capital letters?
[19:00] <SchrodingersScat> cofo: one is a variable, the other is a command
[19:01] <cofo> variable suppose to be in big letter?
[19:02] <SchrodingersScat> cofo: the command pwd displays it, to use it in a line like that you have to $(pwd) whereas the variable $PWD is set.  Normally system set variables are uppercase, so please don't use all caps when setting your own, thanks.
[19:02] <nmatrix9> anyone have any issues with a disappearing mouse in xubuntu?
[19:03] <mr_rm> SchrodingersScat: your answer is a bit confused. the answer is simply that it's case sensitive. you COULD override the "command" name by treating it like a variable: export pwd="abc"; echo $pwd
[19:03] <SchrodingersScat> nmatrix9: i'm in xubuntu 15.04, no issue
[19:03] <mr_rm> not that it's a good idea
[19:04] <nmatrix9> SchrodingersScat, Actually let me rephrase Iam having issues with the mouse cursor disappearing in certain applications ie. like ocular, chromium, java swing applications
[19:05] <mr_rm> SchrodingersScat: sorry, override is the wrong word. you could still execute the command and have the env variable with the same name, at the same time. but yeah, bad idea
[19:06] <SchrodingersScat> mr_rm: I think a function named pwd would be a little more confusing.
[19:06] <nmatrix9> SchrodingersScat, Ah crap add VLC to that list
[19:06] <mr_rm> SchrodingersScat: yes i agree :)
[19:08] <ioria> nmatrix9, do you have an  "Unknown Display"  in Settings -> Dispaly  ?
[19:09] <Tex_Nick> nmatrix9: would that be a wireless mouse ?
[19:09] <nmatrix9> ioria: I have digital display
[19:09] <nmatrix9> Tex_Nick, yes it it's a logitech wireless mouse
[19:10] <nmatrix9> Tex_Nick, didn't have this issue with KDE
[19:10] <lammpid> Hllo i have problem if i try launch application with user it's launch successfull but if i try launch with root i get error: /usr/bin/env: ruby: No such file or directory
[19:11] <lammpid> with root user not found ruby env path but with simple user found it..
[19:12] <Mr777> If i do rm -ri it will ask for every file/folder before deleting it. So, if I add -f, why doesn't it ask then? Does -f overrule the functionality of -i?
[19:12] <dearn> why run it as root? not really solution but try full path instead
[19:13] <mr_rm> Mr777: the flag "-f" says "never prompt" on the man page so it looks like the answer is: yes.
[19:13] <bodhi_zazen> Mr777, yes -f overrides -i, read man rm =) , useful if you set rm -i as an alias
[19:15] <Mr777> Thanks guys
[19:15] <kokut> hi, do i need to update CUPS? i wont be printing anything on this machine
[19:15] <Tex_Nick> nmatrix9: I'm using a logitech wireless mouse now on this box ... ubuntu 14.04 though ... cursor sometimes just freezes (rarely though), and it seems to be NOT application specific ... what I've done to restore cursor movement is pop the battery out then back in ... works every time ... I KNOW that's NOT the answer you wanted ... but it's it's the only solution I've found so far, your issue might be fifferent though
[19:15] <kokut> can't i just remove CUPS altogether and worry about it later if i ever need it?
[19:16] <eguneys> I can't display '\u03bb' but I can display '\xce\xbb', for more info see http://superuser.com/questions/939312/cygwin-mintty-unicode-doesnt-display-fail-despite-having-dejavu-sans-mono-and-e
[19:16] <nmatrix9> Tex_Nick, willing to try almost anything no matter how illogical it may sound
[19:17] <ioria> nmatrix9, are you updated ?
[19:17] <Tex_Nick> nmatrix9: hold on let me find my magnifying glass to give you a model no. on this mouse
[19:18] <nmatrix9> ioria, my kernel version?
[19:18] <dearn> kokut: probably a lot of packages depend on cups, every application that has print function so you probably cannot uninstall it
[19:18] <ioria> nmatrix9, yep, the system in general
[19:19] <nmatrix9> Tex_Nick, Already took out the battery, no effect
[19:19] <Tex_Nick> nmatrix9: ahhh ok, well sorry man
[19:19] <nmatrix9> Tex_Nick, It's very bizarre because I've googled online and my issue is that it's only certain applications in which I place the mouse cursor in.
[19:20] <kokut> dearn and that also means i should update it..? :\
[19:20] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bug/1387219
[19:20] <dearn> kokut: it should be fine without updating
[19:20] <nmatrix9> ioria, 3.13.0-57-generic
[19:20] <nmatrix9>  how do I find out the overall ubuntu version Iam using 14.*
[19:20] <Tex_Nick> nmatrix9: hmm well the mouse i'm using is a logitech M195, but sounds like completely different issue
[19:21] <kokut> dearn: but it keeps asking every time there is new updates... ill just update it so it stops bothering me
[19:21] <ioria> nmatrix9,  cat /etc/issue
[19:21] <dearn> kokut: why is updating it a problem?
[19:21] <nmatrix9> ioria, Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS \n \l
[19:22] <ioria> nmatrix9,  ???
[19:22] <eguneys> ioria: I can't display '\u03bb' but I can display '\xce\xbb', for more info see http://superuser.com/questions/939312/cygwin-mintty-unicode-doesnt-display-fail-despite-having-dejavu-sans-mono-and-e
[19:22] <nmatrix9> ioria, ?
[19:22] <kokut> dearn: because i never use it and i dont feel like updating software i wont ever use in my life on this machine
[19:23] <timbozeman> I think I installed the wrong version of linux-headers. google says you can boot on old headers with grub, but I can't get my grub to show. Is there a way to switch back to older headers?
[19:23] <ioria> nmatrix9,  well, i miss something... i'm on 14.04.2 and kernel is 3.16.0-43-generic
[19:24] <nmatrix9> ioria, Ah ok I was working with someone in this chan to install that kernel cause my nvidia drivers were messed up
[19:25] <ioria> nmatrix9,  i see.
[19:25] <nmatrix9> ioria, so I guess upgrading to later kernel will be a good idea then?
[19:26] <ioria> nmatrix9,  well, to be updated is good, unless you got specific issues
[19:26] <Mr777> When I open vi, and write something while in insert mode the press backspace it does nothing but keeps moving cursor back instead of deleting.
[19:26] <Mr777> How can I solve this problem? (I think this is a problem, right?)
[19:27] <nmatrix9> ioria, just curious what is the difference between signed-image and generic kernel images?
[19:28] <eguneys> nmatrix9: I can't display '\u03bb' but I can display '\xce\xbb', for more info see http://superuser.com/questions/939312/cygwin-mintty-unicode-doesnt-display-fail-despite-having-dejavu-sans-mono-and-e
[19:28] <ioria> nmatrix9,  uefi, i think... not sure
[19:28] <nmatrix9> eguneys, ?
[19:28] <eguneys> please help
[19:29] <nmatrix9> ioria, the signing key?
[19:29] <ioria> nmatrix9,  sorta
[19:30] <nmatrix9> ioria, Iam installing 3.19.0-02
[19:30] <EriC^^> nmatrix9: i think they work with grub-efi-amd64-signed or something
[19:31] <ioria> nmatrix9,  that's vivid ...
[19:31] <EriC^^> if you have secureboot enabled you should probably install them
[19:32] <brainwash> Mr777: http://askubuntu.com/questions/296385/backspace-in-insert-mode-in-vi-doesnt-erase-the-character
[19:32] <nmatrix9> ioria, 15.04 wow ok
[19:32] <Mr777> Thanks brainwash
[19:32] <eguneys> brainwash: I can't display '\u03bb' but I can display '\xce\xbb', for more info see http://superuser.com/questions/939312/cygwin-mintty-unicode-doesnt-display-fail-despite-having-dejavu-sans-mono-and-e
[19:32] <nmatrix9> ioria, Is that good or bad in this context?
[19:32] <mr_rm> timbozeman: if you know what version you need, did you try just installing them like: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$version?
[19:33] <mr_rm> timbozeman: usually you would do $(uname -r) in the version part to get your current kernel headers. i just made up that name
[19:34] <ioria> nmatrix9,  good for pointer, bu maybe but for nvidia....
[19:34] <ioria> nmatrix9,  good for pointer, but maybe bad for nvidia....
[19:35] <nmatrix9> ioria, I guess I should try with some baby steps I'll try 3.16 then
[19:35] <Tex_Nick> eguneys: it's usually preferable to just post your question to the channel in general and NOT repetitively to specific users ;-)
[19:35] <ioria> nmatrix9,  ok
[19:40] <timbozeman> mr_rm: I got it to boot on the old headers. I'm not sure how to make it stick though
[19:43] <kyle1232> ss
[19:43] <nmatrix9> ioria, gonna do a reboot wish me luck.
[19:44] <mr_rm> timbozeman: what do you mean "stick"? they aren't going to go anywhere
[19:45] <timbozeman> mr_rm, I can boot off the old working headers, but if I reboot it goes back to the new ones. I'm thinking just apt-get remove the new ones, but I don't wana brick my laptop
[19:45] <sixunhuit> Hi. I closed every other application and ran (tried to) "sudo apt-get install linux-image-$(uname -r)-dbgsym" during download my system hard freezes.
[19:46] <lionrouge> hi
[19:47] <mr_rm> timbozeman: the headers are just text files with C header code in them. they get used when you compile modules and drivers that need to see kernel data structures and things like that. they aren't runnable and won't change your booting
[19:47] <lionrouge> i have installed Ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop and i have 2 mouse pointers on screen
[19:47] <lionrouge> one is stuck in the center and the other is operational but jitters heavily
[19:47] <lionrouge> how to fix it?
[19:47] <mr_rm> timbozeman: you don't need the headers installed at all unless you're trying to compile something that wants them during the compile process
[19:49] <kokut> lionrouge: u have 2 mouse pointers? lol??
[19:49] <lionrouge> it non lol for me
[19:49] <kokut> lionrouge: twice the fun for u
[19:49] <JustAPerson> When installing ubuntu, how do I either remove an existing LVM group or reuse it? I installed Fedora alongside Windows yesterday, but I'd rather have UBuntu now
[19:49] <energizer> I have a script that I can run with "sh myscript". How can I make it run just typing "myscript" without the "sh"?
[19:50] <ioria> or ./ or copy /usr/bin
[19:50] <timbozeman> mr_rm, interesting! I was trying to get virtual box guestadditions to work initially. Now I just want my computer to work again. I changed the uname -r from 3.13-generic to 3.19-generic and now the mouse and nic card don't work unless I use grub to boot to the older onces
[19:51] <mr_rm> timbozeman: you have a broken vm now? with one of the kernels anyway?
[19:52] <TJ-> energizer: Add a 'shebang' line (line 1) to the script
[19:52] <timbozeman> mr_rm, I'm not messin with the vm anymore. the computer doesn't like one of the kernels. I'd like it to boot and say uname -r = 3.13 again
[19:54] <mr_rm> timbozeman: not sure how broken you are but if you can boot it "somehow" your best bet might be to just back up the data you don't want to lose and start over, restore data afterward :)
[19:54] <timbozeman> sudo apt-get install linux-image-3-19-22-0-generic caused this nightmare :(
[19:55] <mr_rm> timbozeman: hmmm what did you do that for? just curious what you were trying
[19:55] <mr_rm> timbozeman: you might try just doing a full "dist-upgrad"
[19:55] <timbozeman> mr_rm, cause virtualbox was complaining my headers were wrong or something
[19:55] <mr_rm> update and dist-upgrade
[19:55] <TJ-> timbozeman:  hold down the Shift key as soon as power-on self-test is done and the boot-loader (GRUB2) is being loaded, and you'll get the boot manager menu, from there, select Advance sub-menu and then choose an older kernel to boot with
[19:55] <energizer> TJ-: how can i run it from anywhere?
[19:55] <energizer> without ./ or sh
[19:57] <timbozeman> TJ-, thank you. I've got it booted into an older kernel and the computer is working well. How can I make the older one the default and remove the new one?
[19:57] <geirha> energizer: make sure the first line reads #!/bin/sh, that it is executable, then copy it to /usr/local/bin
[19:57] <TJ-> energizer: If the script is a (da)sh script then make first line "#!/bin/sh" ... to avoid needing to specify the current directory ("./<script>") put the script in the system PATH ("echo $PATH") - user scripts can go in "$HOME/bin" or for system-wide "/usr/local/bin/"
[19:59] <TJ-> timbozeman: I'd guess that the kernel that failed to boot may be because additional out-of-kernel-tree modules failed to build, or else the initial RAM disk (initrd.img) weren't created correctly.
[19:59] <sixunhuit> I disabled the sleep after x time because I wasn't able to come back from sleep but now I got frequent hard freezes.
[20:00] <TJ-> timbozeman: most common cause of that is the /boot/ file-system partition running out of space. Check that with "df" and look for a line that ends "/boot" and check there's plenty of available space.
[20:00] <TJ-> timbozeman: If you don't see such a line, look at the line ending / instead
[20:02] <JustAPerson> "Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes."
[20:02] <JustAPerson> is this bad?
[20:04] <energizer> geirha: TJ-: Thanks. Putting it in /usr/local/bin/ worked. (There didn't exist $HOME/bin/.
[20:04] <geirha> energizer: $HOME/bin will be added to PATH if you create it. There's a block in ~/.profile that adds it to PATH if that dir exists
[20:05] <geirha> though .profile is only read when you log in, so you'd have to log in again after creating the dir
[20:05] <geirha> or manually add it to the PATH variable until you do
[20:05] <Harmageddon> Hi! I'm running a USB sound card (Terratec Aureon 7.1) with front and rear speakers attached on Ubuntu 14.04. I managed to get the 4.0 output working, using pulseaudio and pavucontrol. Now, when playing stereo audio files, I get the same sound on front and rear. However, I'd prefer some kind of surround upmixing, a simulated 4.0 surround sound generated from normal stereo audio files. How can I achieve this with Ubuntu?
[20:09] <energizer> geirha: ". ~/.profile" reloaded my .profile and the script works totally. thanks!
[20:18] <TJ-> Harmageddon: For surround-sound upmixing it only requires selecting the correct device profile for the USB device
[20:20] <TJ-> Harmageddon: For my USB 7.1 device ("CM106 Live Sound Device") I select the Profile "Analog Surround 7.1 Output + Analogue Stereo Input"
[20:20] <Harmageddon> TJ-: "Analog Surround 4.0 Output + Analog Stereo Input" results in both front and rear having the same output, at least I don't hear any difference.
[20:20] <sifohp> hello EvryOne :D
[20:20] <TJ-> Harmageddon: And "pactl list short sinks" shows - for that device - "2       alsa_output.usb-0d8c_USB_Sound_Device-00-Device.analog-surround-71      module-alsa-card.c      s16le 8ch 44100Hz       SUSPENDED"
[20:20] <halfbeing> my home folder is on a separate file system to / but I store some files on the root file system. therefore I need to create a trash folder with the right names and permissions on the root file system for these files. i've forgotten how to do this. can anyone remind me?
[20:23] <ThiagoCMC> hey guys... anyone working with pbuilder-dist around here? I have a question...
[20:24] <TJ-> Harmageddon: You'd need to customise the module stack with a module-remap-sink remix=yes .... type of command-line although that will be quite CPU intensive
[20:26] <blib> has anyone installed ubuntu on a recent cell phone here?
[20:26] <bubbasaures> !touch | blib, Closest is touch
[20:27] <ThiagoCMC> about pbuilder, currently, I created a tarball by running: "pbuilder-dist trusty create", then I added a "PPA Dependency" inside my "trusty" image. Now, I need another "tarball" of trusty but, without the PPA... So, how to manage 2 "trusty" with "pbuilder-dist" ?
[20:35] <allen> good day folks, can someone offer me hand getting my cpu to stop throttling down, i have tried using cpufreq-set and thought i had it set to performance mode but its still dropping. I am on Ubuntu with XFCE.
[20:38] <mr_rm> allen: i was curious so i googled. have you seen this page?  https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling
[20:40] <allen> mr_rm yes i have seen that, have the utils installed but either i am doing something wrong or it isn't working, something keeps throttling it stil
[20:40] <canonprinter> I have this program (Lightshot) that I'm successfully running through Wine, but there's an issue - I want to change some settings for the program, so I looked up how to do it. Lightshot instructions say that you need to locate the Lightshot icon in the System Tray
[20:40] <canonprinter> Anybody know the eqivilant of the system tray for Ubuntu?
[20:40] <allen> what DE Canon
[20:41] <canonprinter> equivalent*
[20:41] <allen> i had to mess around with getting the systray working in xfce
[20:41] <mr_rm> allen: when you run "cpufreq-info" what governor does it show as running?
[20:41] <allen> mr_rm one sec
[20:42] <allen> how do i know which one is being used
[20:43] <allen> ondemand i think is the one its using
[20:43] <abs25> hello
[20:43] <mr_rm> that page i linked to tells you, there will be a line
[20:44] <abs25> opening localhost only shows some files, when I mannualy type path it says I do not have permission to acces that folder (web dev, apache)
[20:44] <mr_rm> The governor BLAH may decide...
[20:44] <allen> canon, which desktop environment you running, if its XFCE i can give you a link to sorting the tray issue i solved it last night
[20:44] <allen> mr_rm then its ondemand then :)
[20:45] <mr_rm> allen: i guess that's your problem. you didn't configure it with performance, at least you didn't follow the instructions to make it permanent (also on that page)
[20:45] <mr_rm> allen: i don't have any expertise in this area, i'm just reading :)
[20:47] <cofo> jo
[20:47] <cofo> hi
[20:47] <allen> mr_rm i don't see how to make it permanent, sadly i know enough to be dangerous lol .
[20:47] <cofo> i wrote script and make a variable like tmp = "text" and also then curl -$tmp..
[20:47] <cofo> it gives me command not found
[20:48] <Guest43657> cofo: lose the whitespace around the equal sign...
[20:48] <cofo> What?
[20:49] <cofo> Why?
[20:49] <Guest43657> because that's how the shell syntax works
[20:49] <cofo> :<
[20:49] <Guest43657> you're executing "temp" with parameters "=" and "text" there
[20:49] <cofo> I don't understand why
[20:49] <Guest43657> which naturally does not exist
[20:49] <cofo> so it check what after the space?
[20:50] <Guest43657> an assignment is always var=something
[20:50] <cofo> what after the equal sign?
[20:50] <cofo> :<
[20:50] <cofo> this bash
[20:50] <Guest43657> yes, in bash, and anything that's remotely POSIX-compatible
[20:50] <cofo> WHY WINDOWS HAS NO MAN
[20:51] <mr_rm> windows IS the man!
[20:51] <TJ-> cofo: "man bash" then  "/^PARAMETERS"
[20:51] <Guest43657> a statement like "var = text" will execute the command "var" with parameters "=" and "text", as already explained
[20:51] <cofo> yea i see
[20:51] <cofo> Then what
[20:51] <Guest43657> you don't want this, obviously
[20:51] <Harmageddon> TJ-: If I understand module-remap-sink correctly, it maps the same number of channels from one sink to another? All use cases I can find are splitting output on two sinks.
[20:51] <Guest43657> you want variable assignment, which is var=...
[20:51] <cofo>  man bash "/^PARAMETERS"
[20:52] <cofo> nothing
[20:52] <QuestionMark> i have a laptop with the screen broken, can i install ubuntu with a external monitor ?
[20:52] <cofo> i think yes
[20:52] <cofo> with hdmi cable or something
[20:52] <Guest43657> cofo: that wasn't a command to be ran verbattim
[20:52] <MarcW> Hi, can someone explain me why I can choose to encrypt my "home folder" at install, even if I chose whole disk encryption with LVM just before? Isn't it redundant?
[20:52] <cofo> oh
[20:52] <EriC^^> cofo: type man bash then type "/^PARAMETERS"
[20:52] <allen> mr_rm ok i have all 4 cores showing performance now
[20:52] <Guest43657> you were supposed to execute man bash and manually input /^PARAMETERS after that
[20:52] <rod> MarcW: great find- - you you file a report?
[20:52] <allen> lets hope it holds this time
[20:52] <mr_rm> allen: i guess a reboot will tell  :)
[20:53] <cofo> ye i understand but how it works
[20:53] <allen> no NEVER rebooting lol
[20:53] <Guest43657> I don't understand your question
[20:53] <cofo> QuestionMark: i answered you
[20:53] <TJ-> Harmageddon: I'm not privvy to the details but so far as I can tell I'm getting full 7.1 surround-sound mixing for a stereo input. That may just be CL=RL=LEFT, CR=RR=RIGHT; it is generally the responsibility of the application to generate the surround effects itself - that would be VERY CPU-intensive for the pulseaudio daemon
[20:54] <cofo> That's how I believe... You connect the external and then do some keyboard shortcut if you got. I believe it should be fine
[20:54] <QuestionMark> with hdmi ? 'm gonna use VGA cable
[20:54] <QuestionMark> with hdmi ? 'm gonna use VGA cable cofo
[20:54] <cofo> Yea it doesn't matter
[20:54] <cofo> I believe it gonna be fine
[20:54] <cofo> You should try if you want or something
[20:54] <QuestionMark> thanks
[20:55] <cofo> I mean you knew the answer
[20:55] <TJ-> QuestionMark: Possibly, but the problem will be selecting the Primary display at boot/config time, since the default will be the LVDS TFT
[20:55] <QuestionMark> ok TJ
[20:56] <cofo> I can say it depends on the brand laptop because i just google
[20:56] <TJ-> QuestionMark: It depends on the graphics GPU - many very old Intel especially could only clone displays - in that case it'll work. But for most GPUs the outputs are totally independent and would need some manual intervention early in the boot process.
[20:57] <MarcW> rod: are you serious?
[20:58] <cofo> sorry for not google but is there manual for c programming laguage in linux man?
[20:58] <TJ-> MarcW: encrypting volumes isn't the same as encrypting a user's home directory; one doesn't imply the protection of the other
[20:58] <EriC^^> cofo: man 2 <something>
[20:58] <cofo> i know there is man printf
[20:58] <EriC^^> cofo: sorry man 3 <something>
[20:59] <EriC^^> cofo: there's xman, then choose the section you want
[21:00] <TJ-> cofo: on the command-line you can do "whatis <something>" to find man-pages; e.g. "whatis printf"
[21:00] <MarcW> TJ-: when Ubuntu ask if it should encrypt home folder, is it talking about "/home" or ~ ?
[21:00] <nicomachus> what does .old-dkms appended to the end of a initrd file in /boot mean?
[21:00] <cofo> nvm
[21:00] <nicomachus> full output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11863433/
[21:01] <TJ-> MarcW:  "~" aka $HOME
[21:01] <mr_rm> if you're doing "whatis printf" you should probably start by reading a book about C
[21:01] <cofo> lol
[21:02] <cofo> I know it's about printing.. I just gave an example. A man for pointers possibly exsist?
[21:02] <mr_rm> same thing with pointers... this is just basic C language stuff
[21:02] <mr_rm> learning C from man pages is going to be VERY painful
[21:02] <cofo> ok
[21:02] <cofo> I just lazy to continue reading
[21:02] <cofo> :<
[21:02] <mr_rm> then C is probably not for you
[21:03] <mr_rm> just sayin'
[21:03] <nicomachus> lol
[21:03] <cofo> :<
[21:04] <cofo> I like C
[21:04] <TJ-> cofo: "sudo apt-get install c-cpp-reference"
[21:04] <JustAPerson> When installing Ubuntu to dualboot with Windows, should I reusing the existing windows EFI partition? Ubuntu is apparently trying to create a new one http://i.imgur.com/aThAGOi.png
[21:04] <geirha> is it about the bash builtin printf command, or the C function?
[21:06] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Abort that! The installer needs to reuse the existing ESP
[21:06] <cofo> TJ-: how to i run it
[21:07] <TJ-> cofo: Run what?
[21:07] <nicomachus> nvm, looks like there's a bug report for it: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=717584
[21:07]  * mr_rm believes cofo is trolling
[21:07] <Harmageddon> TJ-: Sounds logical. Do you know a music player for ubuntu that is able to do that? Or do I have to manually upmix my audio files?
[21:07] <cofo> did it add to manual?
[21:08] <geirha> cofo: dpkg -L c-cpp-reference   # lists what files the package installed
[21:08] <cofo> thank you
[21:08] <TJ-> Harmageddon: All my audio plays over the 7.1 when that's the device in use, and almost all the sources are stereo, so it must be handled by pulseaudio as part of the surroundsound profile
[21:10] <TJ-> nicomachus: I've *never* seen Ubuntu create those /boot/*.old-dkms files, is that some Debian-specifiv initramfs-tools hook?
[21:10] <nicomachus> nope... just regular old Ubuntu.
[21:11] <nicomachus> TJ-: I don't seem to be alone: https://askubuntu.com/questions/616512/purging-old-kernels-fails-to-remove-old-initrd-files/647311#647311
[21:12] <igui> hi
[21:13] <cofo> Hi igui
[21:14] <TJ-> nicomachus: That's really weird; I've never seen that and I've worked on the DKMS source-code. We have kernel installation hooks (/etc/kernel/*/dkms) but nothing in initramfs-tools
[21:14] <Harmageddon> TJ-: Same here, but as mentioned with the behavior, that FL==RL and FR==RR
[21:15] <TJ-> Harmageddon: Yes, I think that's what is expected. What else can pulseaudio do; it has no awareness of what the application intended
[21:16] <nicomachus> TJ-: well then... idk. lol.  Windows and Ubuntu only.
[21:17] <nicomachus> I think I booted a lubuntu live cd once.
[21:17] <EriC^^> maybe it's a virtualbox thing? just a wild guess
[21:18] <nicomachus> EriC^^: never had vbox on this pc either.
[21:18] <TJ-> nicomachus: found it in the source... let me read up on why it happens
[21:18] <nicomachus> also, screw whoever has ericr. hard to autocomplete EriC^^ without just typing the whole name anyway. lol
[21:19] <EriC^^> lol
[21:19] <EriC^^> you can adjust the tab-completion so it uses the last active nick
[21:20] <nicomachus> done.
[21:20] <EriC^^> :D
[21:21] <JustAPerson> Does primary versus logical partition matter when installing separate /boot / /home and swap partitions?
[21:21] <TJ-> nicomachus: "cp -f "$initrd_dir/$initrd" "$initrd_dir/$initrd.old-dkms" " ... it looks like that happens when dkms's make_initrd() shell script function fails to detect that the host distro uses initramfs-tools ... so that suggests its a failure or race condition of some sort
[21:22] <nicomachus> it's always racism...
[21:23] <Tex_Nick> JustAPerson: if you're segrating home, then you might want to do it on a primary partitiopn
[21:24] <bubbasaures> JustAPerson, in general, no.
[21:25] <eb0t> hey if i install openvpn on one machine
[21:25] <TJ-> nicomachus: OK, I see why. If the next boot is good that file is deleted; if the boot fails, the file is supposed to be reverted to the .old
[21:25] <eb0t> will i be able to test it with an openvpn client on another machine on the same subnet
[21:26] <nicomachus> TJ-: interesting... I guess I probably haven't rebooted since -57 installed
[21:26] <TJ-> nicomachus: what's weird is I can find no code that is triggered to remove those files
[21:27] <nicomachus> autoremove doesn't do it?
[21:27] <nicomachus> like, on a delay after the reboot?
[21:28] <nicomachus> otherwise, ghost code.
[21:28] <_cb> Just bought a Logitech h110 headset. Audio works ok but when I use the sound recorder it plays back static. Ubuntu 12.04
[21:30] <JustAPerson> Okay, and this is the correct choice to install Ubuntu alongside the Windows in the UEFI partition, right? http://i.imgur.com/xpSMsiL.png
[21:33] <EriC^^> JustAPerson: press on the efi sda2 can you select it as the efi partition?
[21:33] <EriC^^> dont select to format it though in the checkbox
[21:33] <TJ-> nicomachus: I see nothing that touches those files in the entire dkms source, aside from the lines that create the files and surrounding comments
[21:34] <nicomachus> TJ-: And so I revert to the likeliest option: Ghost code.
[21:34] <EriC^^> that's from the movie irobot, right?
[21:34] <JustAPerson> EriC^^: what do you mean? I can select that entry in the list
[21:34] <EriC^^> JustAPerson: try double clicking on it and see if you can select it as the efi partition
[21:35] <EriC^^> or maybe set the mountpoint to /boot/efi
[21:35] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Everything looks good there; notice that "Device for boot loader installation" is correctly set to "/dev/sda2 Windows Boot Manager"
[21:36] <foobar12> how do you downgrade 14.04.2 to 14.04.1 or plain 14.04?
[21:36] <TJ-> JustAPerson: /dev/sda2 is fat32, 104MB, so that will be the EFI System Partition (confusing that Gparted doesn't correctl name it!)
[21:36] <JustAPerson> EriC^^, TJ-: do you mean changing from fat32 -> efi like this? http://i.imgur.com/ac7Q5Js.png
[21:37] <JustAPerson> or should I leave it fat32
[21:37] <bubbasaures> foobar12, No downgrading system wide.
[21:37] <EriC^^> JustAPerson: i mean to double click it and select it as the efi partition
[21:37] <EriC^^> JustAPerson: what happens if you double click on sda2?
[21:37] <CatMerc> Hi! Kind of new to Linux, and I was wondering about a simple script I wrote. In short, whenever I move files with the mv command, there's a short delay before it's shown in the GUI. Is it because the mv command takes that long, or is it a purely visual delay?
[21:38] <TJ-> JustAPerson: EriC^^ hang on! That looks to be a problem. I don't think changing /dev/sda2 type is a good idea, if it showed as 'fat32' before you began making changes
[21:38] <foobar12> bubbasaures, thanks... it'd be nice if canonical could just announce on their download page that they completely broke a particular version for use with vbox before people waste hours downloading, installing, configuring things, and then trying to figure out what the hell is wrong with guest additions
[21:38] <EriC^^> TJ-: not the type, just so the installer knows it's the efi partition, i don't think the one at the bottom matters that much for uefi installs
[21:39] <JustAPerson> TJ-: Ok i'll  revert the change
[21:39] <EriC^^> JustAPerson: what happens when you double click on it? can you screenshot that?
[21:39] <TJ-> EriC^^: I does! That is the device passed to "grub-install" !
[21:39] <EriC^^> TJ-: what about /etc/fstab?
[21:39] <JustAPerson> EriC^^: one moment, it's very slow to rescan my disks
[21:39] <bubbasaures> foobar12, I would prefer it rain polkadots and moonbeams, either is about equal to happen. ;)
[21:39] <TJ-> JustAPerson: How many disk drives has the system got? I see /dev/sdb graphic along the top but the list box only shows us /dev/sda
[21:40] <EriC^^> TJ-: cause when you double click on it i think you can select it as the efi partition, or select it's mountpoint to be /boot/efi which is the same i guess
[21:40] <TJ-> EriC^^: fstab will be written based on these choices, not the other way around.
[21:40] <JustAPerson> TJ-: sda is an SSD, sdb/sdc are HDDs and sdd is my liveusb
[21:40] <foobar12> bubbasaures, yeah, unfortunately... thanks again though
[21:40] <nmatrix9> daftykins, you awake?
[21:40] <EriC^^> TJ-: i mean maybe the installer uses that choice for what to write to fstab..
[21:41] <TJ-> JustAPerson: And you're putting Linux's /boot/ file-system on /dev/sda5 deliberately, but the rest of the install on /dev/sdb ?
[21:41] <bubbasaures> foobar12, I would say though that if you were unaware of any downgrade info, I would doubt you've not made some user errors. Consider thought before making emotional statements.
[21:42] <JustAPerson> TJ-: that's what I was going to try. Should I just put everything on /dev/sdb?
[21:43] <TJ-> EriC^^: my concern is that the "Type" field is unclear as to its purpose... is it the file-system type (fat32/ntfs/ext4 etc) ... if so, what the heck does "efi" mean, if it is allowed to change that. And, if "efi" in fact means "ESP" then why is it not already displaying it as that since the partition will already have the ESP GUID
[21:43] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Give us a few minutes to discuss this; I have a feeling you could make a mistake here and live to regret it
[21:44] <EriC^^> TJ-: i think the installer doesn't use the one at the bottom for uefi installs, cause i vaguely remember somebody saying he chose another /dev/sda and it still installed to his other disk
[21:45] <EriC^^> and overall i have a feeling that the installer uses that efi type as which partition to use as the efi partition
[21:45] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Regarding the /boot/ partition I'd suggest purely from a keeping-everything-Linux-in-the-same-place standpoint to put /boot/ on the same disk as the rest of the OS... I don't think having kernel and initrd on SSD will make a significant speed gain on boot ... if the Linux root file-system were on SSD you would see a faster booter.
[21:46] <TJ-> EriC^^: Last time I looked at the Ubiquity (installer) code it does use that setting explictly for the EFI boot-manager target device
[21:48] <EriC^^> TJ-: so it does grub-install -efidiretc. thatpartition/EFI as the path to efi dir?
[21:49] <TJ-> EriC^^: precisely
[21:49] <TJ-> EriC^^: which is why I'm concerned that the list-box shows /dev/sda2 as "fat32" rather than "efi" if that really is the EFI system Partition.
[21:50] <EriC^^> how does it build fstab? maybe setting it as efi type is like setting the mountpoint to /boot/efi so it knows what to mount?
[21:50] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Did you use "Try Ubuntu" and then start the installer from the desktop icon?
[21:50] <JustAPerson> TJ-: yes
[21:50] <TJ-> EriC^^: fstab is auto-generated at the end of install once most of the chroot installation is complete
[21:50] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Fab! :) ... can you open a terminal and type some commands for us?
[21:51] <JustAPerson> TJ-: yes :)
[21:51] <EriC^^> TJ-: how does it know to mount that efi partition though?
[21:51] <TJ-> JustAPerson: I can't remember the hot-key sequence now... something like Ctrl+Alt+T I think
[21:51] <JustAPerson> that's correct
[21:53] <TJ-> EriC^^: A UEFI system can have only one ESP (on the first disk in the enumerated disks) ... it has a unique GUID in the GPT. If it has a valid file-system it will be used by the installer, and greb-install will generate /EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi (on non-SecureBoot) or copy in the grubx64.signed.efi for SecureBoot
[21:53] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Does the PC also have a network connection so we can use pastebin?
[21:53] <JustAPerson> TJ-: yes. I'm only using one computer at the moment
[21:54] <TJ-> JustAPerson: OK... lets install the pastebin helper " sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[21:54] <JustAPerson> donne
[21:55] <TJ-> JustAPerson: next, we'll ensure it has booted in UEFI mode: "pastebinit <(ls /sys/firmware/efi/)"
[21:55] <JustAPerson> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11863653/
[21:57] <TJ-> JustAPerson: that confirms it is a UEFI boot, good. Now let's look at the partition tables on the disks: "pastebinit <(parted /dev/sda print)"
[21:58] <JustAPerson> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11863667/
[21:58] <EriC^^> TJ-: so the installer uses the efi partition's type to know which one to mount? or it uses the selection at the bottom?
[21:58] <EriC^^> i guess it uses the selection at the bottom, for it to make sense
[21:59] <TJ-> EriC^^: It sets the default selection based on discovering an ESP.
[21:59] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Good, it's a GUID Partition Table (GPT) disk label, and /dev/sda2 *is* the EFI System Partition (ESP)
[22:00] <EriC^^> TJ-: so what if you choose a different disk to install to? like a usb disk for example?
[22:00] <EriC^^> it wouldn't install to your selected disk? and it would use the default selected on in /etc/fstab?
[22:00] <TJ-> EriC^^: I think you're able to override the default selection
[22:00] <EriC^^> maybe that's the efi type in that table?
[22:00] <stanreg> Does the "default" ubuntu install create a swap partition?
[22:01] <EriC^^> or does the bootloader at the bottom override it?
[22:01] <TJ-> EriC^^: yes, whatever you select at the partitioner/boot-loader stge controls what is written to the installed /target/etc/fstab
[22:01] <TJ-> EriC^^: The bootloader choice at the bottom of that window is the only way to select the boot loader device
[22:02] <TJ-> EriC^^: On a BIOS/MBR boot that'd just list the raw devices /dev/sda /dev/sdb
[22:03] <TJ-> JustAPerson: OK ... getting back to your installer partitioning.... The "Device for boot loader installation" should be "/dev/sda2 Windows Boot Manager".  You should *not* make any change to the Type of /dev/sda2 in the list box though
[22:04] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Other than my suggestion about whether to but /boot/ on sda or sdb, that's a personal choice for you but won't affect things (unless sda ever fails in which case the Linux install won't have a boot-loader at all)
[22:05] <JustAPerson> TJ-: well earlier I set it to efi. I restarted the installer and it's still listed as efi
[22:05] <JustAPerson> should I manually change it back to fat32?
[22:05] <wickedcode> stanreg: Yes I believe it does
[22:05] <TJ-> JustAPerson: That's what I'd expect it to show, "efi" ... is it possible that earlier you had changed to show "fat32" without realising the implication?
[22:06] <TJ-> JustAPerson: assuming you've not saved the partitioning changes to /dev/sda at all, then if that shows /dev/sda2 as "efi" that is what I'd expect to see
[22:06] <EriC^^> TJ-: it needs to be set to efi, otherwise the installer will complain that there's no efi partition, even if it's set at the bottom as the bootloader location
[22:07] <EriC^^> just tried it in a vm, i had to check, had a hunch
[22:07] <EriC^^> JustAPerson: you need to double click on it, and select use as .. efi partition
[22:07] <TJ-> EriC^^: Yes... but my concern is that it was *showing* fat32 in the first place. JustAPerson has restarted the installer and it does show "efi" so I'm suspected it was manually altered to "fat32" last time around
[22:08] <JustAPerson> EriC^^: that's what I did earlier when it changed from FAT32 -> efi. I restarted the installer and it still shows efi
[22:08] <TJ-> JustAPerson: as it stands now that will be OK.
[22:08] <JustAPerson> TJ-: it may be worth mentioning that I installed fedora 22 yesterday but removed those partitions earlier today. Perhaps fedora left things in a state that was a little weird or the installer to recognize?
[22:08] <nmatrix9> Don't understand why I can't install nvidia drivers on vivid
[22:08] <JustAPerson> TJ-: all righty
[22:09] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Yes, anything is possible and for a quiet life lets just blame Fedora :)
[22:09] <OerHeks> nmatrix9, likely your nvidia card is too old, or too new
[22:09] <JustAPerson> TJ-: If I put / /boot and /home all on the same drive, should I bother making separate partitions? Or should I just make a / and swap partition
[22:09] <Paddy_NI> Would anyone know how I would stream/play a url to a dlna smart tv using Ubuntu?  I can do it with BubbleUPNP on android simply by creating a playlist entry pointing to a url serving a file, The gnuupnp-av controls for linux is great but can only play files.  I wonder if perhaps I could create a blank file with say the .mp4 extension and had the url in the file in some way... Any thoughts?
[22:10] <nmatrix9> 0erHeks I still see drivers for it on the nvidia site
[22:10] <OerHeks> nmatrix9, what card exactly? or what driver does suit the card, maybe xorg edgers contains the driver version
[22:11] <TJ-> JustAPerson: personally I'd create a single LVM volume and then create the file-systems inside it as Logical Volumes. That provides a lot of future flexibility especially if you leave some free space in the LVM Volume Group - that allows you to extend or create new LVs at will
[22:11] <Paddy_NI> I remember years ago I could do this using a .aspx file to play content on the xbox 360 using uShare during the early days of the consoles life
[22:11] <nmatrix9> 0erHeks: Geforce 550 Ti GTX
[22:12] <OerHeks> nmatrix9, that card is supported from 270 and up
[22:13] <JustAPerson> TJ-: can that be done in this installer? I only see the options to create a partition as a certain fs like ntfs/ext4 etc
[22:14] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Hmmm, not sure actually, I thought the Guided Partitioning offered it; not sure about manual
[22:14] <JustAPerson> TJ-: you can select to encrypt/use LVM if you wipe the drive in the previous installer step. Oh well, this should be fine for now
[22:15] <TJ-> JustAPerson: I know the server installer does but its a long time since I used the Ubuntu Desktop installer
[22:15] <nmatrix9> 0erHeks0, ok thought so, brb gotta reboot
[22:15] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Yes... go with what you have, the main thing is, I think, to keep /home/ separate
[22:16] <JustAPerson> TJ-: all righty. And logical v. primary partitiions aren't too important right?
[22:16] <UbuntuNewbie> Hello!
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> JustAPerson  mind: max 4 primary partition... creatore more partitions inside a logical partiton
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> create more*
[22:17] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Are you using MBR partitioning on /dev/sdb then, not GPT?
[22:17] <UbuntuNewbie> Anyone mind helping me with an issue regarding Ubuntu 15.04 - I'm a little stuck on secure ftp connections
[22:18] <TJ-> JustAPerson: But logical partitions are fine
[22:18] <JustAPerson> TJ-, MonkeyDust: `parted /dev/sdb print` reports it has a gpt
[22:18] <TJ-> JustAPerson: in which case you can't have logical :) .... GPT supports, by default, 128 partitions
[22:18] <UbuntuNewbie> Anyone?
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> !ask | UbuntuNewbie
[22:19] <UbuntuNewbie> !patience
[22:19] <stanreg> wickedcode: ty
[22:19] <UbuntuNewbie> !ask
[22:20] <JustAPerson> TJ-: cannot make logical partitions? okay lemme recreate these as primary then
[22:21] <TJ-> JustAPerson: if the disk is GPT then there is no such thing as logical, I can't understand the partitioner allowing it!
[22:21] <valentinmu> hello guys. i changed driver to opensource for ati card and my screen resolution dropped to 1024x768
[22:21] <valentinmu> xrandr says that this is the only mod eavailable
[22:22] <UbuntuNewbie> I've got sftp setup on my Ubuntu server; however, when trying to connect to it from the filezilla client but the connection stalls and fails to connect. Any advice?
[22:24] <TJ-> valentinmu: The available modes are provided by the monitor sending an EDID packet to the GPU, if that is corrupt/non-existent then the driver had to assume only safe modes. Check "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[22:26] <daftykins> nmatrix9: sup?
[22:27] <nmatrix9> daftykins, just updated my kernel to 3.19. I still have full screen, but when I try to install nvidia, good ol screen appears.  I'am trying to go through our logs and figure what was the essence  of the problem that was screwing up my resolution?
[22:28] <daftykins> nmatrix9: if you're on 14.04, why install 3.19?
[22:28] <nmatrix9> daftykins, reason I updated was because I was following advice to update my kernel to resolve disappearing cursor issues in xubuntu where my cursor disappears in Chromium and whole host of other applications.
[22:29] <daftykins> ah interesting
[22:29] <daftykins> well for some reason you had bumblebee installed, which is an old method of getting intel + Nvidia hybrid solutions working, so that was ruining everything
[22:30] <nmatrix9> daftykins, I checked I don't have bumble installed
[22:30] <daftykins> you might need to purge and reinstall the driver now that you have the new kernel installed
[22:30] <daftykins> you should also be booted into the 3.19 whilst installing the nvidia package
[22:31] <nmatrix9> daftykins, yeah Iam, I did a apt-get purge nvidia*, removed my old kernels and reinstalled but then the issue appears.  The only time issue disappears is when I uninstall the nvidia drivers!
[22:32] <nmatrix9> daftykins, after the purge did a dpkg -l | grep nvidia just for sanity check
[22:32] <daftykins> nmatrix9: yeah 'cause it reverts to the open source nouveau driver and all works well with that one, ok... run "sudo apt-get clean" to kill any cached packages, then try installing it again. when it installs it should be obvious which kernel it's generating a module for
[22:32] <UbuntuNewbie> I need help binding an ip to a domain if anyone can help me out on that
[22:33] <valentinmu> TJ-: here is log http:/pastebin.com/SiJFEBCN
[22:33] <valentinmu> TJ-: here is log http://pastebin.com/SiJFEBCN
[22:33] <daftykins> UbuntuNewbie: that's a question on DNS and hosting, nothing ubuntu related at all
[22:34] <c_smith> soooo.... anyone else having issues getting stuff from the vivid series in ppas?
[22:34] <UbuntuNewbie> Okay, could you maybe point me in the right direction? I've been google searching it for the past few hours but I keep getting older version of Ubuntu / goDaddy related articles
[22:34] <nmatrix9> daftykins, done but when I do a sudo apt-get clean and when I do a sudo apt-cache search "NVIDIA binary driver"
[22:35] <nmatrix9> daftykins, I still see nvidia drivers
[22:35] <nmatrix9> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11863819/
[22:35] <daftykins> you don't need sudo to apt-cache search
[22:35] <nmatrix9> daftykins, habit
[22:35] <TJ-> valentinmu: There are lots of errors in there "(EE)" due to the fglrx and radeon drivers and possibly booting with "nomodeset" too, and there seems to be a bare "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" too that would be better off moving out the way too
[22:36] <daftykins> apt-cache search is what's available, 'clean' just deletes the already downloaded local packages - freeing up some disk space
[22:37] <ubuntumate> hi
[22:37] <nmatrix9> daftykins, ok let me do a reinstall and reboot and I'll get back to ya
[22:37] <ubuntumate> i want to start a prog without the text in the terminal
[22:37] <daftykins> nmatrix9: i have to head off as i have a guest this week, but if you show someone a pastebin of "apt-get install nvidia-331" it should show if it's generating a module for the 3.19 kernel or not
[22:38] <nmatrix9> daftykins, Ok I will
[22:38] <valentinmu> TJ-: nomodeset option was added by me, but with no result. do you recommend to move xorg.conf away?
[22:38] <ubuntumate> pls help me
[22:38] <ubuntumate> lol
[22:39] <TJ-> valentinmu: with "nomodeset" there is no DRI kernel interface, which is causing the radeon driver to fail, so Xorg falls back to a plain framebuffer (FB) driver which defaults to 1024x768
[22:39] <ubuntumate> i start prog in terminal but then lot of text
[22:39] <OerHeks> ubuntumate, that sounds normal, when you start a gui app from terminal
[22:40] <ubuntumate> there is a option, that skip the text
[22:40] <ubuntumate> i can hide it
[22:40] <valentinmu> TJ-: rebooting now without that option :)
[22:40] <OerHeks> ubuntumate, there is ? than you answered you r own question.
[22:41] <valentinmu> TJ-: but resolution is still same :(
[22:41] <ubuntumate> mumble -shownotextthen
[22:41] <ubuntumate> you know?
[22:42] <ubuntumate> omg that a simple question
[22:42] <ubuntumate> haha
[22:42] <OerHeks> ubuntumate, normally one would start an gui app from menu, with a .desktop starter
[22:43] <ubuntumate> that is maybe for beginners
[22:43] <TJ-> valentinmu: I said, you still need to fix the problems with the remains of the fgrlx driver reporting errors. Look in "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" now and focus on the "(EE)" error reports
[22:43] <valentinmu> TJ-: in log i still see EE's complaining about fglrx module and non-existent /dev/dri/card0
[22:43] <ubuntumate> that is fun here
[22:44] <ubuntumate> simple question
[22:44] <valentinmu> TJ-: thanks, i'll google for that
[22:44] <syntroPi> Does someone have an idea why WebGL on Chrome 43.0.2357.130 would be disabled on Linux 3.16.0-43-generic SMP  x86_64 GNU/Linux with proprietary Nvidia 304.125 ?
[22:44] <ubuntumate> i better ask my teacher at monday
[22:44] <ubuntumate> thanks
[22:45] <TJ-> valentinmu: I've not used AMD GPUs in ages so I can't really help your further on the particular causes, but there are others here familiar with the ATI/AMD stuff
[22:45] <kgb> maybe better since you're experimenting
[22:46] <valentinmu> TJ-: thanks anyway :)
[22:47] <valentinmu> so, did anyone here have met problems with screen resolution on ATI card with opensource driver?
[22:47] <kgb> sorz nvidia here
[22:48] <nmatrix9> daftykins,  Ok I see a Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.19.0-22-generic (x86_64)
[23:01] <valentinmu> hey, another question. how what can be wrong if when i boot from liveusb 14.04, process hangs on "Generating locales" ?
[23:02] <GJdan> what is the codename of ubuntu 15?
[23:02] <xangua> !15.04 | GJdan
[23:02] <GJdan> which was trusty?
[23:03] <syntroPi> 12.04
[23:03] <TJ-> !14.04 | GJdan
[23:03] <syntroPi> ooh right
[23:03] <GJdan> ah, thanks
[23:08] <user4567754> hello
[23:20] <Tex_Nick> GJdan: you might find this interesting ... Ubuntu Releases ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[23:33] <gr33dy1> hello anyone here ?
[23:34] <gr33dy1> im running ubuntu live right now, i want to install it, but i have questions on setting up my partitions
[23:35] <gr33dy1> im running ubuntu live right now, i want to install it, but i have questions on setting up my partitions , can anyone help
[23:35] <bubbasaures> ask for responses if someone knows\
[23:36] <gr33dy1> whats that bubbasaures?
[23:36] <Bashing-om> gr33dy1: Ask, on partitioning, you will get as many different ways to do it and there are administrators. Partitioning is a use-case kind of thing.
[23:36] <gr33dy1> ok
[23:36] <gr33dy1> so here's my ideal setup
[23:36] <bubbasaures> !ask | gr33dy1 for the record after you have been here
[23:37] <basiclaser> hi all, im running ./usr/local/firefox/firefox to run firefox which is successful, but when I try to lock it to the launcher, it does so, but then will not open. The icon just looks busy for a minute and then stops flashing
[23:38] <gr33dy1> im running windows8.1, i'd like to keep it on the drive but with very limited space, i'd like to have an encrypted ubuntu with lots of spaces, what kinds of partitions do i need and how many etc
[23:38] <rypervenche> basiclaser: Is there a reason you're using a custom version of Firefox?
[23:40] <gr33dy1> !patience
[23:41] <basiclaser> dev reasons rypervenche
[23:41] <rypervenche> basiclaser: Gotcha. Try using the full path in your launcher.
[23:42] <gr33dy1> im running 14.04 if that helps
[23:43] <basiclaser> rypervenche: thanks that did it
[23:43] <basiclaser> (duh)
[23:43] <gr33dy1> im running windows8.1, i'd like to keep it on the drive but with very limited space, i'd like to have an encrypted ubuntu with lots of spaces, what kinds of partitions do i need and how many etc
[23:43] <gr33dy1> im using ubuntu 14.04
[23:44] <basiclaser> sorry gr33dy1 i didnt quite catch that, one more time ?
[23:44] <OerHeks> gr33dy1, just make free space from within win8, and let ubuntu partition swap etc
[23:44] <jamesd> there are store and websites that sell large harddisk drives that will allow you to do all that for not much money
[23:45] <rypervenche> gr33dy1: I would recommend two. One for /boot and one for your LUKS-encrypted partition. The installer will create a swap and root partition there in LVM for you.
[23:46] <lj1102> hey, I've added a redirect rule via iptables, do I have to restart the networking service for it to take effect?
[23:46] <lj1102> **prerouting rule
[23:46] <GJdan> Tex_Nick: aha, most useful, okay I'll check the wiki next time
[23:46] <GJdan> thanks
[23:47] <rypervenche> lj1102: Nope :)
[23:47] <gr33dy1> can anyone explain what the paritions types actually do ? i mean i know how to make it run i think, im here because i want to set it up for optimal levels
[23:47] <lj1102> rypervenche: :( but its not working
[23:47] <Tex_Nick> GJdan: you're welcome :-)
[23:47] <rypervenche> lj1102: How did you add the rule?
[23:48] <jamesd> if you are running luks remember to stock up on extra strengh and double thick alluminum file the FBI is always improving there brain scan technology.
[23:48] <rypervenche> lj1102: run "sudo iptables -t nat -nvL" and verify it is there.
[23:48] <jamesd> er foil
[23:48] <lj1102> rypervenche: I've added it via iptables commands, this is how it looks "-A PREROUTING -d <IP_ADDRESS>/32 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination <IP_ADDRESS>:8775"
[23:49] <gr33dy1> lol jamesd, a little help pls
[23:49] <lj1102> rypervenche: still no response :|
[23:49] <rypervenche> lj1102: One sec.
[23:49] <gr33dy1> what kind of encryption does luks do ?
[23:49] <OerHeks> gr33dy1, optimum is let ubuntu take control, else read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes
[23:50] <jamesd> gr33dy1: the partition types are there for programs to read and tell what type of data is contained, but in reality the numbers don't matter you can use any number you want as long as you configure the system right.
[23:50] <rypervenche> lj1102: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[23:50] <lj1102> rypervenche: 1
[23:50] <lj1102> net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1
[23:51] <gr33dy1> well i had seen a warning that you need a certain amount for swap partition, what does the swap do
[23:51] <lj1102> rypervenche: would be too easy ;)
[23:51] <jamesd> gr33dy1: swap partition and files allows your system to use part of diskspace as memory its slower, but can help in some systems... i recomend always having a coupe GB of swap if you can spare the disk space.
[23:53] <gr33dy1> ubuntu wants to erase my windows 8 lol also brings up another question if i were worried about outside intrusion would just having a windows partition on disk be enough of a backdoor even if i intend to run linux 99% of the time
[23:53] <lj1102> rypervenche: this is the only rule affecting this IP
[23:53] <gr33dy1> thanks jamesd
[23:53] <jamesd> d(+i)] [21:freenode/#ubuntu(+CLcfjnt)] [Act: 2,3,4,5,7,9,10,11,12,13,14,16,17,18,19,20,22,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35]
[23:53] <jamesd> [#ubuntu]
[23:53] <jamesd> oops
[23:54] <gr33dy1> also differences between ext3 ext4 and fat32
[23:56] <rypervenche> lj1102: Hmmm, not sure if you'll beed an SNAT or not with that.
[23:56] <rypervenche> lj1102: You could always do a tcpdump to see if the return packets are not going to the right IP.
[23:57] <lj1102> rypervenche: are iptable rules order dependend, maybe there si some oddball rule in my way too large iptables ?
[23:57] <rypervenche> lj1102: They are. The first match will run that rule.
[23:57] <jamesd> gr33dy1: ext4 is probably best to start out on... fat32 is more freindly for windows so if you are dual booting it could help data transfer if you have only one system
[23:57] <lj1102> rypervenche: are they stored in a file or something, or how would I move rules around?
[23:58] <jamesd> main ubuntu install on ext4... and then 10% of space on fat32 if you are dual booting
[23:58] <rypervenche> lj1102: I personally like to output them to a file then restore them. It's easier to edit them. sudo iptables-save > filename
[23:58] <rypervenche> lj1102: Edit the file, then run "sudo iptables-restore < filename" to upload the changes.
[23:59] <lj1102> rypervenche: ah cool, I'll give it a shot, is this "safe" ?
[23:59] <gr33dy1> im dual booting and have only one system i have a 250gb hardrive, i want an encrypted partition or whatever, can you tell me what i need jamesd, percentages is fine