[01:56] <jbalint> hi
[01:56] <jbalint> is there any way to preview a merge?
[01:59] <RAOF> A number, depending on what you mean by 'preview'.
[02:02] <jml> and 'merge' :)
[02:03] <RAOF> Right.  I thought this was #bzr
[02:14] <jbalint> i have this proposed merge and i want to know if theres a way to show the diff to the main branch i want to merge it to, https://code.launchpad.net/~myodbc-developers/myodbc/bug37649/+merge/929
[02:14] <jbalint> instead of (in this case) having to go diff rev 800..803
[02:15] <jbalint> or should i ask the reviewer to do it via bzr?
[02:15] <beuno> jbalint, not currently, but it's being worked on
[02:15] <jbalint> ah, thanks beuno
[02:15] <beuno> you may be able to use loggerhead a bit
[02:15] <beuno> let me take a look at it
[02:15] <jbalint> yeah, i used that to diff a rev..rev diff
[02:15] <jbalint> but in future merges the revision history won't be quite as linear
[02:15] <beuno> jbalint, ah, right. Well, in the future, we'll have diffs  :)
[02:16] <jml> three cheers for the future
[02:16] <jbalint> cool, thanks. looking forward to it
[02:16] <beuno> :)
[02:16] <beuno> me too
[02:16] <spiv> jbalint: If you have a working tree of the target handy, then "bzr merge --preview -d TARGET BRANCH_TO_MERGE" is a good way to generate a diff of what would be merged.
[02:17] <jbalint> spiv: yeah, but then i post a patch and it's no different from not using launchpad
[02:17] <spiv> Yeah.  Launchpad should do that for you.
[02:17] <spiv> Just letting you know that if you are doing it manually, you don't need to muck about with revision numbers :)
[02:18] <beuno> spiv, you do for loggerhead  :/
[02:18] <jbalint> in the past i've just done bzr send -o
[02:18] <beuno> not for bzr though
[02:18] <beuno> bzr send is my favorate
[02:18] <spiv> beuno: I'm loggerhead will get better :)
[02:19] <spiv> s/I'm/I'm sure/
[02:19] <beuno> jbalint, if you want to keep track of this, it's bug #202000
[02:20] <jbalint> cool, thanks
[02:20] <jbalint> on another note, is there any way to get the bug# parsing to use a different url prefix? :D
[02:20] <beuno> spiv, it slowed down a bit, but hopefuly it will  :)
[02:20] <jbalint> we have the same type of thing, but now our links go to unrelated ubuntu bugs ;)
[02:20] <mwhudson> loggerhead has a slightly hard time of it because it views a branch at a time
[02:21] <mwhudson> and a merge --preview involves two
[02:21] <beuno> jbalint, what do you mean?  for ubottu?
[02:21] <mwhudson> we'll figure something out, i'm sure
[02:21] <beuno> mwhudson, if we've gotten this far...
[02:21] <jbalint> beuno: the very last line here https://code.launchpad.net/~myodbc-developers/myodbc/bug37649/+merge/929 has the bug# parsed and linked to some ubuntu bug
[02:22] <beuno> jbalint, aaah, I see. I remember some discussion about it as well
[02:22] <jbalint> beuno: would it be possible to have that link soemwhere else? (since this isnt any ubuntu branch)
[02:22] <beuno> not sure for when it's planned, linking to external bug trackers
[02:22] <beuno> but it certainly is on the map
[02:22] <jbalint> ok, np. just wondering :)
[02:22] <jbalint> great!
[02:40]  * spiv wishes he could browse the source to random ubuntu packages through Launchpad
[02:43] <mwhudson> spiv: patience, padawan
[02:44] <jml> spiv: I wish I could push a single revision to devpad in less than 5s :)
[02:47] <spiv> jml: that's tough, SSH can barely do the handshake in 5s ;)
[02:48] <mwhudson> i know ssh has this thing where you can multiplex a new connection through an existing one
[02:48] <mwhudson> has anyone tried that?
[02:48] <jml> spiv: well, there's still a few minutes to shave off from bzr before you have to worry about that :)
[06:42] <poolie> why does edge keep losing my login credentials?
[06:44] <jml> poolie: you don't use it often enough?
[06:44] <poolie> i've been using it on and off all day
[06:44] <poolie> and it's logged me out twice
[06:44] <poolie> which is pretty damn annoying
[06:44] <jml> poolie: it hasn't been losing mine.
[06:45] <jml> poolie: I don't suppose you've had any rogue browser crashes or anything like that?
[06:45] <poolie> no
[06:46] <poolie> oh well
[06:46] <poolie> i'll live
[06:48] <jml> poolie: I'm not sure how to diagnose further, I'm afraid.
[06:49] <poolie> i just thought it might have been some known database fiddling
[06:49] <poolie> i probably sound whiny
[06:49] <poolie> it's just annoying when you have 20 tabs open and they all want to be reloaded
[06:49] <poolie> i guess there is a command to do that though
[06:49] <jml> yeah. it's a serious bug.
[07:04] <persia> poolie: To reload all your tabs, crash your browser, and recover.
[07:18] <jamesh> persia: or set your browser to reopen tabs on start
[07:18] <jamesh> then you can just exit without crashing
[07:35] <poolie> if you right-click on a tab there is a 'reload all tabs' command which is even cheaper
[07:35] <poolie> it's a bit odd that's the only place that command is present
[09:23] <gutts> Hi
[09:27] <dholbach> hiya
[09:27] <dholbach> is it possible to get files from soyuz via launchpadlib goodness?
[09:28] <dholbach> like download a .dsc or .diff.gz file of a given source package and version from librarian?
[09:29] <bigjools> dholbach: not yet
[09:30] <dholbach> bigjools: alright - thanks
[09:30] <bigjools> dholbach: it was actually rated quite low down the list of priorities when we asked around
[09:30] <dholbach> ok, I see :)
[09:30] <dholbach> nevermind
[09:31] <bigjools> dholbach: there's some third-party dget that does what you need IIRC
[09:31] <dholbach> bigjools: yeah :)
[09:40]  * laga waves
[09:42] <laga> there seems to be a problem with my PPA. i can't copy packages from hardy to intrepid.
[09:42] <laga> the error  message is "The following source cannot be copied: mythtv 0.22.0~trunk18265-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1 in hardy (same version already has published binaries in the destination archive)"
[09:42] <laga> however, there are no builds for intrepid.
[09:42] <laga> my PPA is here: https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu-trunk-0.22/+archive/+copy-packages
[09:42] <laga> any thoughts?
[09:42] <bigjools> laga: which package are you trying to copy?
[09:43] <bigjools> ah sorry I need to read :)
[09:43] <bigjools> let me check
[09:43] <laga> thanks, i'll be afk for a few (grabbing lunch)
[09:51] <bigjools> laga: please file a bug against Soyuz
[09:52] <bigjools> laga: are you trying to copy binaries too?
[09:54] <laga> however, there are no builds for intrepid.no
[09:54] <laga> oops
[09:54] <laga> "no"
[09:55] <wgrant> That would be the problem.
[09:55] <wgrant> The lack of builds for Intrepid doesn't come into the equation - the binaries are already in your archive, so they can't be rebuilt.
[09:56] <wgrant> So you must copy the binaries too.
[09:56] <bigjools> right
[09:58] <laga> you might have a point there. :)
[09:59] <laga> it'd be nifty it if it automagically changed the changelog, eg append +intrepid1
[09:59] <wgrant> I thought the recent changes were meant to make that issue less unobvious.
[10:00] <laga> *shrug*
[10:00] <laga> the launchpad UI isn't exactly intuitive ;)
[10:01] <bigjools> there's a change going in for copy packages RSN :)
[10:01] <laga> RSN?
[10:01] <bigjools> it landed on staging, it didn't make it in time for the database freeze this cycle
[10:01] <wgrant> bigjools: Oh, I thought I saw that bug flip to Fix Committed.
[10:01] <bigjools> Real Soon Now
[10:01] <wgrant> Ahh.
[10:01] <laga> ah.
[10:24]  * wgrant drowns in BjornT's bugs.
[10:25] <wgrant> "Actions menu still shows up pretty darn close to everywhere except to on the main page"
[10:25] <wgrant> s/except to/except for/
[10:25] <bigjools> heh
[10:28] <BjornT> wgrant: that's why i had to file many bugs :) it's not possible to fix all locations in one go, and i dislike having bugs that are 20% fixed.
[10:30] <wgrant> BjornT: It concerns me that it's not possible to fix them all in one go, but I guess I'll see the good reason in 11 months.
[12:27] <Peng_> jml: So bzr+http mirroring works now? When will it be deployed?
[12:28] <Peng_> When replying to a bug comment over email, do you need to use GPG?
[12:29] <wgrant> Peng_: Only if you want to alter some attribute of the bug or file a new one.
[12:30] <Peng_> wgrant: OK, cool. Thanks.
[14:27] <radix> Is there a way to subscribe to all changes in a distro package in Launchpad?
[14:36] <persia> radix: You could filter on the distro -changes list.  Otherwise you can subscribe only to bugs.
[14:37] <radix> yeah, I'm using that now
[14:44] <fgiraldeau> I would like to use Launchpad to host a kind of private project, mainly for bug tracking. I know that it's possible to select : "This bug report should be private", but I didn't find a way to make it default. Is it possible?
[14:46] <fgiraldeau> I did opened a question for that : https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/44848
[14:48] <persia> fgiraldeau: Questions are the best way to discuss possibly private projects.
[14:49] <fgiraldeau> persia: do questions can be marked as private by default?
[14:50] <persia> fgiraldeau: I'm not sure, but if there is a need for private discussion, it can happen.
[14:51] <fgiraldeau> I understand that it's a new setting that can be added to the interface, isn't?
[14:53] <Gioacchino> hey all
[14:53] <Gioacchino> I am going crazy with bzr and launchpad ...
[14:53] <Gioacchino> here is my project https://code.launchpad.net/mastro
[14:54] <Gioacchino> I pushed branch but they era empty..
[14:54] <kiko> Gioacchino, crazy good or crazy bad? :)
[14:54] <Gioacchino> crazy crazy
[14:54] <Gioacchino> bad
[14:54] <kiko> heh
[14:55] <kiko> so you pushed the branch up -- which one, wark or work?
[14:55] <Gioacchino> yes
[14:55] <Gioacchino> both wark and work
[14:55] <kiko> I see
[14:55] <Gioacchino> wark is a test
[14:55] <kiko> gotcha
[14:55] <kiko> Gioacchino, and the push succeeded?
[14:55] <Gioacchino> but it have the same problem as work..
[14:55] <Gioacchino> Gioacchino, and the push succeeded? it seems yes
[14:55] <beuno> Gioacchino, could you run:  bzr status
[14:55] <beuno> con your branch, locally?
[14:56] <Gioacchino> mm I'm not expert with bzr... I know a little cvs
[14:56] <Gioacchino> gioacchino@hackLab:~/workspace/Mastro3$ bzr status
[14:56] <Gioacchino> gioacchino@hackLab:~/workspace/Mastro3$
[14:57] <kiko> Gioacchino, what push command did you use?
[14:57] <beuno> Gioacchino, now: bzr log
[14:57] <Gioacchino> gioacchino@hackLab:~/workspace/Mastro3$ bzr push lp:~gmazzurco89/mastro/wark
[14:57] <Gioacchino> Enter passphrase for key '/home/gioacchino/.ssh/id_rsa':
[14:57] <Gioacchino> Created new branch.
[14:58] <Gioacchino> revno: 1
[14:58] <Gioacchino> committer: Gioacchino <gioacchino@hackLab>
[14:58] <Gioacchino> branch nick: Mastro3
[14:58] <Gioacchino> timestamp: Thu 2008-09-11 15:48:24 +0200
[14:58] <Gioacchino> message:
[14:58] <Gioacchino>   added file
[14:59] <beuno> Gioacchino, and you ran "bzr add" before the commit?
[14:59] <Gioacchino> yes
[15:00] <Gioacchino> Is a good thing try to do all from scract ?
[15:01] <Gioacchino> I have a clean dir with source code to upload
[15:01] <beuno> Gioacchino, well, it should work as-is...
[15:02] <Gioacchino> I am into gioacchino@hackLab:~/Scrivania/Mastra$
[15:02] <Gioacchino> then
[15:02] <beuno> Gioacchino, you did:  bzr init && bzr add && bzr commit 'some message' ?
[15:02] <Gioacchino> bzr launchpad-login gmazzurco89
[15:02] <Gioacchino> yes also
[15:03] <Gioacchino> ok
[15:03] <Gioacchino> Committed revision 1.
[15:04] <Gioacchino> than now ?
[15:04] <beuno> Gioacchino, what version of bzr are you running?
[15:04] <Gioacchino> Bazaar (bzr) 1.6.1
[15:04] <Gioacchino> from launchpad repo
[15:05]  * beuno thinks
[15:05] <emet> launchpad is like facebook for nerds
[15:06] <Gioacchino> yes but why not work with me ?
[15:08] <Gioacchino> please someone help em..
[15:08] <kiko> Gioacchino, I'm looking
[15:09] <beuno> Gioacchino, so am I
[15:09] <Gioacchino> I have deleted wark branc
[15:09] <kiko> Gioacchino, after you bzr pushed did it say "Pushed 1 revision"?
[15:09] <Gioacchino> now
[15:10] <beuno> Gioacchino, try pushing the same branch to lp:~gmazzurco89/mastro/work
[15:10] <Gioacchino> ok
[15:10] <Gioacchino> tryng qith wark it tell  Created new branch.
[15:10] <Gioacchino> because I have deleted wark
[15:10] <Gioacchino> now I try with work
[15:11] <Gioacchino> yes it tell me  Pushed up to revision 1.
[15:11] <kiko> ah, good
[15:11] <kiko> Gioacchino, now let's wait for some 5 mins
[15:11] <beuno> Gioacchino, also, wark worked as well now
[15:12] <Gioacchino> yes I wait
[15:12] <beuno> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gmazzurco89/mastro/wark
[15:12] <beuno> there is your revision   :)
[15:13] <Gioacchino> but the code ?
[15:13] <Gioacchino> ok now work..
[15:13] <Gioacchino> ......
[15:13] <Gioacchino> now after al this try..
[15:13] <beuno> the code is on the source code link: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gmazzurco89/mastro/wark/files
[15:13] <beuno> I don't know why this could be
[15:13] <Gioacchino> I want launchpad with eclipse
[15:14] <Gioacchino> I am used to aclipse +cvs
[15:14] <beuno> Gioacchino, you have a bzr-eclipse plugin
[15:14] <Gioacchino> yes
[15:14] <Gioacchino> it seems very different...
[15:14] <beuno> Gioacchino, http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrEclipse
[15:15] <beuno> well, you have to remember bzr is a distributed version contrel system
[15:15] <beuno> and CVS is centralized
[15:15] <beuno> so quite a few things will change
[15:18] <Gioacchino> than I am creating
[15:18] <Gioacchino> a new project from bazar
[15:19] <Gioacchino> I have 2 choise
[15:19] <Gioacchino> branch as new project an checkout as new project
[15:19] <Gioacchino> what I should do ?
[15:20] <Gioacchino> ?
[15:23] <beuno> Gioacchino, checkouts is the same model as cvs
[15:23] <beuno> and branches are distributed
[15:23] <beuno> checkouts are bound to a branch
[15:23]  * beuno wonders if Verterok is around
[15:23] <Gioacchino> but I'll can commit with ceckout ?
[15:23] <beuno> Gioacchino, you can commit with both
[15:24] <beuno> branch will commit locally
[15:24] <Gioacchino> ok I need ceckout
[15:24] <beuno> and will require you to push when you're ready to send the changed
[15:24] <beuno> *changes
[15:24] <beuno> checkouts will send them when you commit
[15:24] <Gioacchino> ok
[15:25] <Gioacchino> with eclipse I use Save and it save locally commit fro  push on the server ;)
[15:25] <beuno> I see
[15:25] <beuno> I'm not a big eclipse user
[15:25] <Gioacchino> now it ask me branck location
[15:27] <Gioacchino> I should put  lp:~gmazzurco89/mastro/work ?
[15:27] <Gioacchino> with this it tell
[15:27] <Gioacchino> Executing: /usr/bin/bzr checkout lp:~gmazzurco89/mastro/work /home/gioacchino/workspace/Mastro1
[15:27] <Gioacchino>
[15:27] <Gioacchino>     Error while executing checkout
[15:27] <Gioacchino>     Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions (and try -Dhpss if further diagnosis is required)
[15:29] <Gioacchino> hey ?
[15:29] <beuno> Gioacchino, I really don't know
[15:29] <beuno> maybe try #bzr ?
[15:29] <beuno> it's an bzr-eclipse thing
[15:29] <Gioacchino> another question
[15:29] <Gioacchino> you seen the vcs branch ?
[15:30] <beuno> and Verterok, the authot, seems to be away at the moment
[15:30] <Gioacchino> how can I delete this branch ? I don't see the red button..
[15:30] <beuno> Gioacchino, which one?
[15:30] <Gioacchino> lp:~vcs-imports/mastro/work
[15:31] <kiko> Gioacchino, I can delete it for you. should I?
[15:31] <beuno> Gioacchino, ah, right. You need to file a question asking to delete those:  https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar
[15:31] <beuno> ah
[15:31] <Gioacchino> ok kiko
[15:31] <kiko> I can
[15:31] <beuno> or, get kiko to do it
[15:31] <beuno> anything I say, always add "or, get kiko to do it" on the end
[15:32] <kiko> that bodes poorly for me
[15:32] <kiko> Gioacchino, nuked
[15:32]  * beuno wonders if he can script that in irssi
[15:32] <Gioacchino> kiko you know something about brz-eclipse ?
[15:33] <beuno> Gioacchino, try asking about bzr-eclipse in #bzr
[15:34] <Gioacchino> thanks
[15:36] <kiko> Gioacchino, I don't know eclipse, but I suspect statik might
[15:41] <Gioacchino> it seem the problem is that eclipse don't ask me the rsa key
[16:21] <michaelramm> i am trying to edit some wiki pages on https://wiki.ubuntu.com. I log into my LP account and it redirects me to the Ubuntu Team Wiki page. When I try to nav to another page, I get logged out.
[16:22] <michaelramm> I have not edited the wiki since the OpenID requirement was put in.
[16:22] <michaelramm> I cannot find anywhere to enter in my OpenID in my LP account.
[16:24] <michaelramm> anyone have any suggestions?
[16:24] <intellectronica> michaelramm: LP is the open id provider, you don't need to enter anything
[16:26] <michaelramm> ok, so why can I not edit any wiki pages?
[16:31] <kiko> michaelramm, cookies busted?
[16:32] <rjefferson> i need help with my ppa
[16:33] <rjefferson> dput said everything uploaded successfully but I do not see anything on my launchpad ppa site
[16:33] <bigjools> rjefferson: how long ago did you upload?
[16:33] <michaelramm> kiko, not to my knowledge...
[16:34] <rjefferson> wait, i just noticed an email
[16:34] <rjefferson> no distro series
[16:34] <bigjools> it takes up to ~20 minutes to generate the emails
[16:37] <kiko> michaelramm, that's usually the case when it's broken. what browser?
[16:47] <rjefferson> how do you change the distribution when generating a deb in the changes file?
[16:49] <kiko> rjefferson, that's kinda an #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-motu question, but I think the PPA docs on help.launchpad.net do discuss that a bit
[16:49] <rjefferson> ok
[16:57] <michaelramm> kiko, firefox 3
[16:59] <kiko> michaelramm, so almost surely a cookie that got dropped somewhere, but you can use live HTTP headers to help me figure out what's going on
[17:00] <michaelramm> kiko, ok
[17:01] <michaelramm> kiko, i did get this error: "OpenID error: Nonce already used or out of range."
[17:01] <kiko> michaelramm, phew! that's a real error
[17:02] <michaelramm> i have 7 cookies listed for wiki.ubuntu.com
[17:02] <michaelramm> in FF
[17:02] <kiko> michaelramm, when did you get that error?
[17:03] <michaelramm> after I logged in, then hit refresh
[17:03] <kiko> michaelramm, you logged into launchpad, were redirected back to the ubuntu wiki, and then reloaded the page?
[17:03] <kiko> where did that appear? as part of the page?
[17:03] <kiko> thanks sinzui -- michaelramm is the user who's having the problem I mentioned
[17:03] <sinzui> I see
[17:04] <michaelramm> kiko, yes, right under the tabs graphic
[17:04] <kiko> what an odd problem
[17:04] <kiko> suggests it's a bug in the actual moin openid code, right sinzui?
[17:04] <michaelramm> i have a MOIN_SESSION, MOIN_ID, __utmv, __utmb, __utmz, __utmc, and __utma cookies
[17:05] <michaelramm> i guess I should remove these cookies as a first step?
[17:06] <sinzui> michaelramm: remove them for launchpad and ubuntu. login to launchpad, then visit ubuntu
[17:06] <michaelramm> ok
[17:07] <sinzui> michaelramm: we humans do not work with the nonce error you got. the wiki was wrongly reusing it. We can hope that the problem was the cookie
[17:08] <michaelramm> cool, logged into LP...going to wiki now
[17:09] <michaelramm> went to AlabamaTeam page on wiki, hit Log In, went to LP Login Page, hit Sign In, redirected back to Ubuntu Team Wiki page (not AlabamaTeam page)
[17:10] <michaelramm> went to AlabamaTeam page, NOT logged in anymore
[17:11] <sinzui> michaelramm: are you logged in when you search for and  select a page you have not been too?
[17:11] <andrea-bs> sinzui: I got a similar problem with LP just now: while reporting a bug it told me that I was logged out
[17:12] <michaelramm> sinzui, anytime I do anything, I get logged out...even going to UserPreferences
[17:14] <sinzui> michaelramm: I can confirm the nonsense you are seeing. I was definitely logged in, I navigated to link, then watched the page reload and log me out.
[17:14] <sinzui> :/
[17:15] <michaelramm> very strange happenings are afoot
[17:16] <sinzui> andrea-bs: I think you are seeing a separate problem, the authentication scenario is different (one domain verses two domains)
[17:20] <sinzui> Oh that is stupid, the nonce is in the returned URL, and shown to the browser, reloading the page is sure to fail. Moin should be setup to redirect the browser to a safe URL
[17:22] <sinzui> michaelramm: I was able to make help.ubunut.com keep me logged in by crafting a sane url after logging in
[17:24] <sinzui> michaelramm: login again. When you return to the wiki, there is a lot of nonsense in the URL that really should not be there. Delete everything from the ? onward, and load the page. After that, every link I tried on the page kept me logged in.
[17:24] <michaelramm> sinzui, I got this when I logged into help.ubuntu.com "Logged in as https://login.launchpad.net/+id/4PJckxw"
[17:25] <michaelramm> i have tried that to no avail
[17:25] <sinzui> Yeah. I've got to get rid of the URL
[17:26] <michaelramm> i tried it on help, and got logged off, i tried it on the wiki earlier and got logged off
[17:26] <sinzui> michaelramm: I note that my user name sinzui-is is now appearing instead of that nasty identity url.
[17:28] <sinzui> I wonder if Moin is not getting the user information save into the session db quickly or correctly, and until you see yourself logged in under your real user name, loggin fails.
[17:28] <sinzui> michaelramm: when you say you tried that, do you mean you rewrote the URL you were returned to and loaded that to be certain your browser had a sane URL?
[17:29] <michaelramm> i deleted all of the stuff after the ? (it looked to be about 200 chars)
[17:30] <michaelramm> and I tried entering the AlabamaTeam url
[17:30] <michaelramm> both logged me out
[17:30] <sinzui> right. I'm certain we should never see that.
[17:30] <sinzui> after you delete that stuff, you loaded the page?
[17:30] <sinzui> not moved to another page?
[17:31] <sinzui> ah, I see more nonsense while moving between wikis
[17:32] <michaelramm> sinzui, that crazy URL is over 1100 chars long
[17:33] <sinzui> michaelramm: I stand by my claim Moin should never let us see that
[17:33] <michaelramm> agreed
[17:33] <sinzui> I expected to me redirect to the page I wanted to be on.
[17:34] <michaelramm> sinzui, per last question: I did load the page that I was on (Ubuntu Team Wiki) and was logged off
[17:34] <sinzui> I'll replay my steps to see if I did something else.
[17:35] <michaelramm> sinzui, When I click on Edit, I get a msg that I get a "You are not allowed to edit this page." error and I am logged off
[17:36] <sinzui> I would expect that if you are logged off
[17:36] <michaelramm> yep
[17:37] <michaelramm> but, then again, I would not expect to be logged off when I hit the Edit link.
[17:38] <sinzui> michaelramm: I
[17:38] <sinzui> 1. logged off the wiki
[17:38] <sinzui> 2. used the Login link to see the Launchpad authentication page
[17:38] <sinzui> 3. I confirmed the information
[17:38] <sinzui> 4. I saw the front page of wiki.ubuntu.com, I also see an insane URL.
[17:38] <sinzui> 5. I entered https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ into my browser's location and loaded the page.
[17:38] <sinzui> 6. I am logged on as I move though the site.
[17:40]  * michaelramm is copying steps
[17:40] <michaelramm> except is the wiki homepage is not loading
[17:41] <michaelramm> hmmm, i wonder....
[17:41] <sinzui> michaelramm: mine is spiraling too
[17:42] <michaelramm> i have a FF Plugin from my OpenID provider (Verisign) I wonder if that is causing some sore of conflict
[17:43] <michaelramm> I would test but wiki is dying
[17:43] <michaelramm> i use that OpenID for logging in to identi.ca
[17:43] <michaelramm> will try on wiki when I am NOT logged into verisign OpenID with the plugin
[17:45] <sinzui> michaelramm: I do not think the plugin is an issue. All the servers are doing are asking your browser to load some URLs that allow then two servers to do an exchange. the browser does not do any OpenID work itself,
[17:45] <michaelramm> got a service is down on help
[17:45] <sinzui> me too
[17:46] <michaelramm> true (about the plugin) but you have to exhaust every option
[17:49] <michaelramm> ok, back on wiki
[17:49] <sinzui> me too
[17:49] <sinzui> still logged in
[17:49] <michaelramm> ironic!
[17:50] <michaelramm> 1. check
[17:50] <michaelramm> 2. check
[17:50] <michaelramm> 3. check
[17:50] <michaelramm> 4. check
[17:50] <michaelramm> 5. check
[17:51] <michaelramm> 6. LOGGED OUT
[17:51]  * sinzui weeps
[17:51] <sinzui> michaelramm: try Control+Shift+R
[17:51]  * sinzui hopes the cache is stuck
[17:52] <rjefferson> what does status pending mean on a new ppa package?
[17:54] <sinzui> michaelramm: does help.ubuntu.com let you stay logged in?
[17:58] <bigjools> rjefferson: it means it's not published to the archive yet
[17:59] <rjefferson> no errors can occur in that process?
[18:01] <bigjools> rjefferson: no, you need to wait for the next publishing cycle
[18:01] <bigjools> it's not instant, publishing runs are batched
[18:01] <rjefferson> doesn't seem so, everything is finally working
[18:09] <michaelramm> sinzui, nope
[18:09] <sinzui> michaelramm: Do you have another browser you can try?
[18:09] <michaelramm> nope
[18:10] <michaelramm> i can install one...hold on
[18:10] <sinzui> michaelramm: setup a test user
[18:10] <sinzui>     firefox -no-remote -P tester
[18:11] <sinzui> I think the instance is plugin free too
[18:11] <michaelramm> it is, loading up now
[18:13] <michaelramm> sinzui, ok, that worked
[18:13] <michaelramm> i was able to load wiki home page and then nav to AlabamaTeam page and stay logged in
[18:13] <sinzui> !!
[18:13] <sinzui> Well that is a WTF moment
[18:13] <michaelramm> able to get to edit page....
[18:14] <sinzui> michaelramm: Um, well maybe purging cache and removing a few selected passwords/form completions from *canonical.com will fix your normal instance
[18:15] <michaelramm> ok, i will try that
[18:16] <sinzui> michaelramm: you can run the two instances in parallel to compare how they behave
[18:17] <michaelramm> i got rid of all ubuntu/wiki/LP/brainstorm/forums cookies
[18:18] <michaelramm> restarting now
[18:18] <michaelramm> that leads me to think that it is that plugin a little more
[18:19] <michaelramm> logged out on regular user
[18:19] <michaelramm> disabling plugin now
[18:21] <michaelramm> nope, trying another plugin (Firebug)
[18:21] <sinzui> I have firebug
[18:22] <michaelramm> We have a winner!
[18:22] <michaelramm> i disabled FireBug and was able to stay logged in
[18:22] <sinzui> Firebug?
[18:23] <michaelramm> yep
[18:23] <sinzui> michaelramm: did you disable firebug plugin, or just it for wiki.canonical.com
[18:24]  * sinzui has it disabled for the site
[18:25] <michaelramm> i didn't know that you could disable it by site
[18:25] <michaelramm> i have not had it for very long
[18:25] <michaelramm> and don't know much about it
[18:26] <sinzui> michaelramm: I enabled it for the site and do not experience any issues. I am using version 1.2.0a21X from the hardy repo.
[18:28] <michaelramm> HA! on re-enabling it, I am still logged in
[18:28] <michaelramm> quitting FF and trying again
[18:29] <michaelramm> still logged in
[18:29] <michaelramm> very strange
[18:29] <sinzui> Indeed
[18:30] <sinzui> I think the plugin keeps a cache, and it does know about cookies, so that is a plausible source of the problem
[18:30] <michaelramm> did you disable Console for the site?
[18:30] <sinzui> Yep.
[18:31] <michaelramm> k, i will add that in
[18:31] <michaelramm> thanks for all of your help!
[18:32] <sinzui> Your welcome
[18:54] <Rinchen> >> Come join the Launchpad Developer Meeting on #launchpad-meeting! Starts in 5 minutes!
[18:55] <Laney> spam comment at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/264696/comments/7
[18:55] <Gioacchino> how to remove a folder from launchpad branc ?
[18:57] <kiko> bzr rm foldername
[19:03] <Gioacchino> thanks kiko
[19:03] <kiko> nopee
[19:04] <Gioacchino> why it is so slow to scan new branch ?
[19:05] <beuno> Gioacchino, there are many many branches
[19:05] <thumper> Gioacchino: because it is a serial process right now
[19:05] <thumper> Gioacchino: we are fixing that now
[19:05] <Gioacchino> mm :)
[20:31] <jkakar> The new refocusing on the +filebug page to show the comment box at the top of the viewport when you click "No, I'd like to report a new bug" is very nice.  Thanks! :)
[20:32] <beuno> BjornT, ^  :)
[20:32] <salgado> jkakar, is that really new?  I thought I'd seen that before
[20:33] <jkakar> salgado: I think it is...?  I don't recall seeing it until a few seconds ago.  Anyway, it's cool.  Do more things like that. :)
[20:34] <emet> someone please review my project's license! please, I beg of you! :)
[20:34] <emet> http://launchpad.net/pash
[20:35] <beuno> Rinchen, who reviews those?
[20:35] <matsubara> bac: ^
[20:35] <Rinchen> beuno, it's a mix of bac, kiko, and Rinchen currently
[20:36] <bac> hi
[20:36] <emet> it's under the MIT licence!
[20:36] <emet> I'm not hiding some supar secret EULA somewhere in the source tree :o
[20:37] <bac> emet: had you just chosen the MIT license presented it wouldn't have been held for review.  I apologize for not geting to it sooner, though.
[20:37] <emet> right well I'll be specific, portions in the future may be licenced under the Ms-PL
[20:38] <emet> not anything I write specifically, that's MIT
[20:38] <bac> emet:  the licensing looks fine.  it is approved.  thanks for bringing it to my attention.
[20:38] <emet> thank you
[20:39] <bac> emet:  cute logo, btw!
[20:39] <stdin> could an LP admin please have a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/44672 ?
[20:39] <emet> thanks
[20:40] <emet> pash means a big kiss so I thought it would be cute :o
[22:42] <RAOF> Do we have a PPA guy in here at the moment?  The x86-64 buildds seem to have some problem with mono: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17482077/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-amd64.gnome-do_<IP_ADDRESS>-0~hardy~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz


[09:06] <astraljava> Ok, this random screenlocking glitch is really causing loss of productivity now. Is there someone here who could help in debugging the issue further?
[09:07] <astraljava> Is it worthwhile to do any bughunting, or recommended to switch to xscreensaver, still?
[09:10] <JackFrost> Are you using light-locker or xfce4-screensaver?
[09:14] <astraljava> I checked that the latter is the only thing installed on my machine.
[09:16] <astraljava> I have tried to parse logs that I can think of, but there's no sign of any entries. Or at least anything so direct that I could spot it.
[10:09] <brainwash> astraljava: caused by having a second monitor?
[10:10] <brainwash> astraljava: there is a patch here https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16327#c8
[10:24] <astraljava> brainwash: I dunno, it has happened at least once without, but yeah I do use an external monitor every once in a while. Cheers, I'll check that out.
[11:11] <astraljava> Well, this is much fun. At first, that bug seemed to match. I wanted to test this, so I headed to Screensaver settings. To my surprise, it was set off. :o
[11:11] <astraljava> But what's even funnier, the minute count there still stands, meaning even if the screensaver is set off, it will still fire and lock the screen as mentioned in the settings.
[11:14] <astraljava> Yep, if I set lock screen to not follow screensaver, the screen only blanks. Though I set the screensaver theme as Random, from Blank, so there's that, too. :D
[11:14] <astraljava> Sheesh, talk about one broken product.
[11:15] <astraljava> Still need to test that 5 minute marker separately, but that's for later as now I gotta work some.
[11:23] <brainwash> the screensaver/locker business is a cruel one
[11:48] <astraljava> It's nasty, when you want to double check that your screen won't turn black during presentations. You switch it off, but alas, it won't be hindered with such mere lackluster efforts.
[12:43] <astraljava> Hmm.. another worry. Suddenly one of my xfce4-terminal windows stopped receiving keystrokes. Everything else worked, I could minimize it, use menus etc. Just wouldn't type.