[11:32] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: need help with setting up qemu to share network between two sessions of olpc? Both have the same IP currently... Never can tell whether I should "bridge" or "NAT" and how to do that in qemu script... I'm pretty well lost. Look into it if you get a chance, I thought I'd try before going to sleep. Night.
[11:32] <blogi> i have a nose bleed here :)
[11:32] <jorge_> how i can fix the post-installation scrip
[11:33] <ynotest> remoteCTRL:  haha yep...
[11:33] <genii> jorge_: Edit it
[11:33] <jorge_> how??
[11:33] <blogi> remote: i have an option when i right click bout folder sharing
[11:33] <bazhang> Dragonator, how did you determine it is not supported in Linux? because it says vista/xp only?
[11:33] <remoteCTRL> blogi: in that case use that one!:)
[11:34] <Dragonator> no, i found a bug report here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/231162 and herehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/231159
[11:34] <arvind_khadri> gaelfx, hang on
[11:35] <Dragonator> plus when i try to configure my pppoe connection it doesn't find anything
[11:35] <gaelfx> arvind_khadri: k, thanks
[11:35] <genii> jorge_: locate the one you want first. Should be in some directory like: /var/lib/dpkg/info    then name of app here you want to edit script of       then .postinst       like xulrunner.postinst for instance
[11:35] <remoteCTRL> does anyone have an idea how to add more themes to gnome-artsng? speaking in terms of teaching it other sources?
[11:35] <gaelfx> arvind_khadri: by the by, running AMD64 version
[11:35] <znh> Hello people. When I boot up my laptop is shows the progress bar as if it's shutting down (reversly scrolling).. how can I login to my ubuntu?
[11:35] <bazhang> Dragonator, you bought this already? and are using a router to connect to dsl modem or directly to dsl modem
[11:35] <arvind_khadri> gaelfx, :) yup i saw that... have you got the drivers with you ??
[11:36] <genii> jorge_: Once located open it with something like  alt-f2 gksu gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/xulrunner.postinst            and change it
[11:36] <tv7497> bazhang:  i screwed my comp now i am running from live cd :'(
[11:36] <gaelfx> arvind_khadri: well, I have the drivers for 32-bit XP, but will those work?
[11:36] <jorge_> thank you
[11:36] <bazhang> tv7497, what happened
[11:36] <remoteCTRL> znh: press the "e" key when prompted the boot menu and remove the quiet switch from the boot command to see what exactly it does
[11:36] <Dragonator> I already bought this, i know i'm an idiot for not checking before i bought it. And my cable provider is also an ISP provider and uses PPPOE to connnect. But I only have a normal network cable in my home.
[11:36] <genii> jorge_: You're welcome
[11:37] <arvind_khadri> gaelfx, i think they would... in the meantime search for the 64 bit ones
[11:37] <znh> remoteCTRL: i'll do that
[11:37] <tv7497> bazhang: i was editing some of the files to set up vlan as directed by some tutorial now my basic networking is not starting up
[11:37] <genii> jorge_: If you mess it up badly just remove and reinstall the package it belongs to again
[11:37] <Dragonator> when i run sudo pppoeconf it finds two addapters: eth0 and another eth0:a... something
[11:37] <bazhang> tv7497, does the computer not start at all? or crashes or what
[11:37] <gaelfx> arvind_khadri: I found some here: http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/1-vt70968.html?postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0
[11:37]  * arvind_khadri looks
[11:38] <bazhang> Dragonator, avahi?
[11:38] <jorge_> ok
[11:38] <tv7497> bazhang: every thing related to networks fail starting from basic network to BIND
[11:38] <bazhang> tv7497, you had backups of everything?
[11:39] <tv7497> bazhang: no :'( thats the reason
[11:39] <blogi> bazhang: when i interchange my cable from eth0 - eth1 and configure them respectively my local network work perfectly in eth0
[11:39]  * tv7497 why do i tinker too much
[11:39] <znh> remoteCTRL: after loading hardware drivers... it shows 'Terminating all processes'
[11:39] <Dragonator> but mine is 8 series
[11:40] <remoteCTRL> znh: tryed running in recovery mode?
[11:40] <znh> remoteCTRL: neg
[11:40] <bazhang> blogi, well you can do it that way, or do some reading and learn the new way; up to you.
[11:40] <gaelfx> arvind_khadri: ok, well, right now I'm still downloading those drivers I sent a link to, and I'm in windows because my connection is crap in Ubuntu, so give me a few minutes
[11:40] <arvind_khadri> gaelfx, take your time...but i cant promise you much of help
[11:40] <blogi> hehehe..i want to learn :)
[11:40] <tv7497> bazhang: any way i can fix this
[11:41] <gaelfx> arvind_khadri: well, that's ok, I think most people here are probably ore experienced with NDISWrapper than I am
[11:41] <znh> remoteCTRL: ACPI: Critical... something
[11:41] <bazhang> blogi, that involves reading and asking informed questions based on that reading then.
[11:41] <gaelfx> arvind_khadri: so anything you do would be considered help
[11:41] <Dedoimedo> tv74, mind repeating what ur problem is all about....???
[11:41] <arvind_khadri> gaelfx, :) thanks...
[11:41] <Dragonator> so should i download those drivers and try again?
[11:41] <remoteCTRL> znh:  not good... try setting the switch acpi=off
[11:41] <bazhang> tv7497, it wont boot at all, or just networking fails
[11:42] <tv7497> bazhang: network fail i get fail everywhere coz i boot in text mode
[11:42] <Dragonator> NVIDIA nForce Drivers
[11:42] <Dragonator> Open source drivers for NVIDIA nForce hardware are included in the standard Linux kernel and leading Linux distributions. This page includes information on open source drivers, and driver disks for older Linux distributions including 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Linux.
[11:43] <bazhang> tv7497, not sure I understand; only network fails , or cannot get into desktop at all
[11:43] <znh> remoteCTRL: boots out of the box without acpi
[11:43] <bazhang> tv7497, what were you editing
[11:43] <tv7497> bazhang: i can get into desktop do all normal stuff cant acess anything releated to networks dont remember some files in etxc
[11:44] <tv7497> etc
[11:44] <blogi> # The specific set of interfaces / networks to bind to
[11:44] <remoteCTRL> znh: fine! then try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade maybe it downloads something to fix it
[11:44] <blogi> # This can be either the interface name or an IP address/netmask;
[11:44] <blogi> # interface names are normally preferred
[11:44] <blogi> ;   interfaces = <IP_ADDRESS>/8 eth0
[11:44] <arvind_khadri> gaelfx, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=783452 follow this ...
[11:44] <blogi> how can i configure that?
[11:44] <bazhang> tv7497, no idea then? just randomly overwriting things?
[11:44] <znh> remoteCTRL: I nearly thought I broke my hardwarez
[11:44] <remoteCTRL> blogi: the ; infront of that imakes it a comment, remove that then it takes effect
[11:45] <znh> For everyone, 'Screen Resolution' shows up to 800x600 while 1024x786 should be possible. Is it possible to put it higher?
[11:45] <blogi> ahhh
[11:45] <remoteCTRL> znh: that is still an option i am afraid, changed something in bios?
[11:45] <tv7497> bazhang: i was editing it from a tutorial does i saved it as a book mark can i access it even if internet is not working in ubuntu
[11:45] <tv7497> /does/that
[11:45] <remoteCTRL> znh: sure, what card?
[11:45] <Dedoimedo> znh: yes it might be possible, what distro u r running?
[11:45] <arvind_khadri> !u | Dedoimedo
[11:45] <znh> remoteCTRL: nope, the last thing I did was give the laptop a hard shutdown while booting.. showed up with hibernating and flashed away
[11:46] <znh> Dedoimedo: Ubuntu 8.04
[11:46] <tv7497> bazhang: i can i think will be back sir
[11:46] <remoteCTRL> znh: what card have you got?
[11:46] <blogi> interfaces = <IP_ADDRESS>/8 eth0 ---can i change this to my own ip (<IP_ADDRESS>/eth1)
[11:46] <znh> remoteCTRL: trident
[11:46] <Dedoimedo> znh: have you installed any graphic drivers - or tried to?
[11:46] <znh> Dedoimedo: nah it came out of the box like thiz :D
[11:47] <remoteCTRL> blogi: well that would be precisely the purpose of it
[11:47] <bazhang> blogi, you did some reading? what are you trying to do?
[11:47] <Dedoimedo> znh: do you want to try to install drivers?
[11:47] <blogi> i'm not really know much of the programing side :)
[11:47] <remoteCTRL> znh: in that case just use the system/preferences/screen resolution menu?
[11:47] <znh> Dedoimedo: well, is it worth it :')?
[11:47] <blogi> i'm just a noob :)
[11:47] <znh> remoteCTRL: I did, showed up to 800x600 instead of 1024x786
[11:48] <Dedoimedo> znh: why not, if everything works out, you'll have 3d support ...
[11:48] <znh> Dedoimedo: it's an old card :)
[11:48] <remoteCTRL> blogi: as bazhang said already several times: you need to do the reading noone can do that for you
[11:48] <Dedoimedo> znh: how old?
[11:48] <bazhang> blogi, if you have no clear idea of what you want to do then you wont get much help; failing to read documents provided to you will only compound that and being new is no excuse for not reading and trying to learn
[11:48] <remoteCTRL> znh: you mean you set 1024*768 and it didnt change?
[11:49] <znh> Dedoimedo: unsure but it doesn't do 3D stuff
[11:49] <znh> remoteCTRL: nope, it isn't listed
[11:49] <remoteCTRL> znh: in that case youmight want to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add it manually
[11:49] <Dedoimedo> znh: option one is that you try to install drivers (via restricted drivers ... in the system menu) - this is the simplest option; option 2 is to manually reconfigure xorg, so if you want, try installing the restricted drivers first...
[11:50] <znh> remoteCTRL: meh I wanted to get used to the GUI
[11:50] <remoteCTRL> znh: do as domeido sais
[11:51] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: thanks for taking the words out of my mouth, hes a hard learner:D
[11:51] <znh> Dedoimedo: no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[11:51] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, :)
[11:51] <Dedoimedo> znh: do you have anything listed? any driver, with the checkbox empty? do you have the ability to enable?
[11:52] <znh> Dedoimedo: doesn't list any
[11:53] <Dedoimedo> znh: then you might wanna try to manually edit xorg.conf  - first back up the existing configuration file sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup
[11:54] <remoteCTRL> znh: you will need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf with sudo
[11:54] <plague> Hi All - does anyone know how I can look at whats in a .mof file using Ubuntu 8.10?
[11:55] <remoteCTRL> znh: you have a section "Screen" in there
[11:55] <znh> remoteCTRL: it doesn't show any rows with 'Modes' or something like that
[11:55] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that plague
[11:55] <plague> ah - cheers
[11:55] <znh> remoteCTRL: yes, I do
[11:55] <Dedoimedo> plague: can you give a hint what this file is - or what it's used for??
[11:55] <remoteCTRL> znh: ok i will paste you something, just gimme a sec
[11:56] <plague> dedoimedo : I have no idea what the file is or what its used for, thats why I want to open it and see.
[11:56] <bazhang> plague, ibex talk in the other channel
[11:56] <remoteCTRL> znh: add this to your Sceen section(sry for flood):
[11:56] <remoteCTRL> 	SubSection "Display"
[11:56] <remoteCTRL> 		Depth		24
[11:56] <remoteCTRL> 		Modes		"1280x1024"
[11:56] <remoteCTRL> 	EndSubSection
[11:56] <Dedoimedo> znh: do you want to manually reconfigure xorg.conf? if so, first back it up as I've written above, second run from terminal windows sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it's a text wizard, please ask if you have any questions especially when you get to the monitor and resolution section
[11:56] <FloodBot3> remoteCTRL: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:56] <remoteCTRL> znh: oops replace 1280x1024 with 1024x768
[11:57] <hung> hello
[11:57] <znh> remoteCTRL: what was that keystroke to restart X?
[11:57] <Dedoimedo> plague: google says its a msinfo file, try a text editor??
[11:58] <remoteCTRL> znh: ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:58] <Dedoimedo> znh: back your existing configuration file before any change!!!!
[11:58] <znh> Dedoimedo: relax, it's sunday for godsake
[11:58] <Dedoimedo> znh: your computer, your rules ... enjoy ...
[11:58] <remoteCTRL> Dedoimedo: he can erase those four lines without backup i believe:)
[11:59] <Dedoimedo> znh: just a rule when working on any conf file, especially in *nix, backup first, tweak later ... that's a healthy rule to follow, one, four or 2500 lines....
[11:59] <znh> remoteCTRL: hmm.. shows stripes instead of the usual nice screen
[12:00] <Dedoimedo> plague: did it work out with a text editor??
[12:00] <remoteCTRL> znh: now you know why its not listed: obviously not supported by the card
[12:00] <znh> remoteCTRL: it is. I used to have that mode in *nix
[12:00] <remoteCTRL> znh: how old is that thing?
[12:00] <znh> remoteCTRL: unsure - but it has ran Ubuntu and others just fine
[12:00] <remoteCTRL> znh: did you copy/paste what i pasted above or did you replace the values as i said?
[12:01] <znh> remoteCTRL: i replaced the values, it does show 1024x786 now
[12:01] <remoteCTRL> znh:  try setting the depth to 16
[12:01] <znh> remoteCTRL: changed the depth, wonder what it doe snow
[12:01] <blogi> # This can be either the interface name or an IP address/netmask;
[12:01] <blogi> # interface names are normally preferred
[12:01] <blogi> ;   interfaces = <IP_ADDRESS>/8 eth1
[12:01] <znh> remoteCTRL: hehe
[12:01] <blogi> whats /8 eth0 stands for?
[12:02] <blogi> whats /8 eth1 stands for?
[12:02] <znh> remoteCTRL: same thing
[12:02] <remoteCTRL> blogi: that is called subnetting and determines how many of the 256 ips in that subnet are to be used
[12:02] <Dedoimedo> blogi: that's a cidr class, meaning only the first 8 bits of the 32-bit ip address space remains unchanged
[12:02] <blogi> my ip should be inputted there?
[12:03] <Dedoimedo> blogi: that means that you have 2^24 ips available for that particular subnet
[12:03] <bazhang> blogi, you are still trying that old way? better to read up on samba
[12:03] <blogi> ahhh...\
[12:03] <pobbel> Hello all
[12:03] <anubis5555> hi
[12:03] <remoteCTRL> znh: in that case try what the other guy suggested above: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:03] <blogi> still cant understand some of it :(
[12:03] <Dedoimedo> blogi: what are you trying to accomplish??
[12:03] <remoteCTRL> gaaawd
[12:04] <bazhang> Dedoimedo, file sharing
[12:04] <gfather> guys whats the best translater i can use?
[12:04] <blogi> trying to get my eth1 functioning
[12:04] <gfather> i want arabic to english
[12:04] <remoteCTRL> gfather: depends on what language to what other
[12:04] <bazhang> babelfish gfather
[12:04] <Dedoimedo> blogi: ok, when you type ifconfig -a, what does it say for eth1 , is it up, does it have ip??
 english to arabic
[12:05] <blogi> there are 3 of them
[12:05] <tingle> how can i change my username?
[12:05] <tingle> in ubuntu i mean
 babelfish is very good ?
[12:05] <Dedoimedo> blogi: u pmed so u wanna continue in pm or here???
[12:05] <bazhang> gfather, not related to ubuntu; you can try it and see
[12:05] <blogi> eth0 (internet) eth1 (local) lo (i dont know)
[12:06] <pobbel> I have discovered that I need to enter "iwconfig wlan0 essid any" before Network Manager will connect.  How do I automate this and will it work before I login?
[12:06] <znh> remoteCTRL: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg asks nothing about video settings, as I used to have in debian like distro's
[12:06] <Dedoimedo> for anyone who has pmed me, if u get your problem solved, please wirte down a short summary of how it went, so that others can benefit from the answer too
 oks
[12:06] <tingle> how can i remove gmd i would like to startx when im ready for it ;x
[12:07] <remoteCTRL> znh: uhh...*thinks*
[12:07] <Dedoimedo> znh: no video options in xorg configurations??
[12:09] <znh> Dedoimedo: indeed
[12:09] <znh> I forgot to mention but there is a checkbox with 'Clone screens' checked all the time - even when I manualy uncheck it and check if it's checked again
[12:10] <Dedoimedo> znh: strange, ill check 8.04 when i get home, at work right now - dont have access to ubuntu
[12:11] <znh> Dedoimedo: ok
[12:11] <remoteCTRL> znh: in that case you oughta have an according setting in the xorg.conf and also two screen sections?
[12:11] <gfather> any translater software ?
[12:13] <znh> remoteCTRL: nope, serverlayout doesn't access two either
[12:13] <remoteCTRL> gfather:  do sudo apt-cache search dict-freedict
[12:13] <tv7497> bazhang: bazhang: http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/en/server.html#6  configuring vlan interfaces this is what i did
[12:13] <anduril-aka-IM-h> Hi folks,  i want to hereby call your attention to the upcoming international day against surveillance and data retention. The actions are planed to take place October the 11'th  . The official action site is http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/Freedom_Not_Fear_2008 there you can find futher information about the actions planed; the supporting capitals and the official "call for participation".
[12:14] <tv7497> bazhang: can you do anything sir ?
 im new to ubuntu , whats that ?
[12:15] <remoteCTRL> gfather: what is what?
 brb
[12:16] <napsy_> Hello. Is it possible that I install ubuntu on my usb removable drive and then boot from it?
[12:17] <znh> remoteCTRL: is there a startup switch to disable gdm/X ?
[12:17] <jester_> napsy_: depends on your bios.  If your bios supports boot from USB, then there's some docs on that.  google "howto boot usb linux" is probably a good start.
[12:17] <napsy_> ok tnx
[12:18] <J3ff> anyone knows a cgiirc or a pjirc client that connects here?
[12:18] <jester_> napsy: oh yeah, add "ubuntu" to that search, and you'll get ubuntu specific guides, which will be much more on target for what you need
[12:18] <napsy_> excellent :)
[12:18] <znh> J3ff: http://irc.burngreave.net/
[12:19] <remoteCTRL> znh: none that i knew of right now, but you can of course look for startx and/or gdm in the /etc/rc#.d directories
[12:21] <remoteCTRL> *silence* am i offline or what?:D
[12:21] <unop> startx is not an init script
[12:22] <remoteCTRL> unop: dunno what the explicit script name for it is but i would surely find it if i looked hard enuff:P
[12:23] <unop> znh, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm stop 20 2 3 4 5 .  # this stops gdm from starting up
[12:23] <unop> znh, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove # somewhat the same
[12:23] <remoteCTRL> nice!
[12:23] <tre_27> remoteCTRL: startx is for manually starting X. if X is started by init scripts, a display manager like gdm, kdm, xdm, ... is used
[12:23] <remoteCTRL> tre_27: thanx for the info
[12:25] <Schoentje> i have an problem on installing ubuntu 8.04 on a computer from 1999 can someone help me plz?
[12:25] <Dedoimedo> schoentje: what kind of problem?
[12:25] <tre_27> Schoentje: how much ram does the machine have?
[12:25] <remoteCTRL> Schoentje: depends on what the problem is
[12:25] <tingle> how can i remove gmd i would like to startx when im ready for it ;x
[12:26] <Schoentje> i get an error that says themes sounds or backgrounds may not work correctly
[12:26] <tingle> how can i remove gdm i would like to startx when im ready for it ;x
[12:26] <Schoentje> 128mb ram
[12:26] <remoteCTRL> rofl
[12:26] <pobbel> I have discovered that I need to enter "iwconfig wlan0 essid any" before Network Manager will connect.  How do I automate this and will it work before I login?
[12:26] <Dedoimedo> schoentje: try installing xubuntu
[12:26] <tre_27> Schoentje: are you running the live cd or the alternate cd?
[12:26] <remoteCTRL> tingle:(01:23:30 PM) unop: znh, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[12:26] <Schoentje> live cd i quess
[12:26] <tre_27> Schoentje: the live cd will not work correctly with only 128mb ram
[12:26] <tester> hi there, my usual log in is nerfed, i can't start any applications in it :(
[12:27] <tre_27> Schoentje: minimum ram for live cd is 384mb
[12:27] <niklas> I want to start using iSCSI as protocol to store my files on a server in my network. I need help understanding what kind of hardware I need. I believe iSCSI only works for scsi and sas disks and not for SATA. Is this correct? Or is iSCSI not related to what disk I have?
[12:27] <jester_> yeah, don't run gnome.  128mb will be brutal torture on that
[12:27] <tester> i've created a new login, and that seems to work fine, anyone know how i can fix my normal login?
[12:27] <tre_27> Schoentje: you have to use the alternate cd (textmode installer) on that machine
[12:27] <remoteCTRL> niklas: you can use rsync instead
[12:27] <Schoentje> oh my dad has another 128mb ram
[12:28] <tingle> remoteCTRL: ty
[12:28] <honkyD> hello I have just installed ubuntu and am getting grub error 2 when I try to boot, how to fix?
[12:28] <remoteCTRL> tingle: np:)
[12:28] <mloskot> Folks, is there a problem with accessing packages.ubuntu.com ?
[12:28] <tingle> remoteCTRL: should i set /usr/bin/gnome-session in .Xinitrc? for startx?
[12:28] <mloskot> It doesn't load for me since 2 days
[12:28] <see-g> pobbel: it's probably a dirty workaround to a more elegant solution but you could try adding this to your /etc/rc.local
[12:29] <niklas> Also, I want a solution where I get more than 1 gbit/sec
[12:29] <tester> would really appreciate some help with why i can't start applications on my other user, feeling a bit desperate :(
[12:29] <MuLLeR[DQ]> hi .. is there a way to fix xen3.2 networking in hardy?
[12:29] <fyrestrtr> tester: what application and what is the error
[12:29] <laughtear> need help...
[12:30] <remoteCTRL> niklas: in that case you will need ultra fast harddisks...
[12:30] <fyrestrtr> !help | laughtear
[12:30] <tester> fyrestrtr, any application and there's no error, they just don't start
[12:30] <laughtear> !help
[12:30] <Baby_Shambl3s> !ask | laughtear
[12:30] <Dedoimedo> honkyD: is your nix installed on the same drive as the grub?
[12:30] <unop> tingle,  exec gnome-session   in ~/.xinitrc  not ~/.Xinitrc
[12:30] <niklas> remoteCTRL, that said, scsi or sas disks?
[12:30] <tingle> unop: ty
[12:30] <fyrestrtr> tester: give me an example. Open a terminal and type 'gedit' and hit enter, what happens?
[12:30] <tester> fyrestrtr, not terminal, not firefox, not sessions, i can launch synaptic for some reason, and applications that auto-started are fine so long as i don't shut them down
[12:30] <pobbel> see-g: Will this run before I login? and this will not work if I insert the card after booting will it?
[12:31] <tester> fyrestrtr, i'm on a different user login now and this one is fine - on my other login, i can't even open a terminal
[12:31] <honkyD> Dedoimedo, I have windows xp on a 20gig drive, then a 160 gb drive partitioned into 2 - ntfs, ext3 and swap. not sure where grub would have installed too??
[12:31] <remoteCTRL> niklas: you get an average of 65mb/sec with a sata disk so 1gigabit per second is per se not really posslible
[12:31] <tester> fyrestrtr, however, i have an embedded terminal screenlet that auto-starts, so i can tell you that if i type gedit into that, nothing happens, it just hangs
[12:31] <Baby_Shambl3s> tester: what permission ahs that user exactly and how did you create it
[12:31] <fyrestrtr> tester: this happened after you did something or just you were working and it stopped?
[12:31] <laughtear> one of my ubuntu has crashed on the other partition, and i can mount that drive onto this desktop. but i can't see my files in home directory to copy here and format that partition. what will i do to see my files and rescue them?
[12:31] <remoteCTRL> niklas: ans scsi is no difference from sas exept sas is hotpluggable
[12:32] <niklas> remoteCTRL, ok
[12:32] <Dedoimedo> honky, you need to tell me ... you installed it ... but it looks like it's on the second drive, while you installed grub to the mbr of the first...
[12:32] <tester> fyrestrtr, i had just configured it to perfection, was happy with it, and decided to install cedega
[12:32] <unop> laughtear, are you mounting the right partition?
[12:32] <tester> fyrestrtr, cedega for some reason also opened fine, i've tried uninstalling it now and that didn't make a difference
[12:32] <see-g> pobbel: /etc/rc.local is executed at the end of entering a runlevel, so it will run before you log in but it won't work if you insert the card after your system has booted up
[12:32] <fyrestrtr> tester: are you on your other account right now?
[12:32] <tester> Baby_Shambl3s, the broken user was created when i installed and had full admin status
[12:32] <tester> fyrestrtr, yes
[12:32] <remoteCTRL> grub error 2 : Bad file or directory type
[12:32] <remoteCTRL>       This error is returned if a file requested is not a regular file,
[12:32] <remoteCTRL>       but something like a symbolic link, directory, or FIFO.
[12:32] <honkyD> Dedoimedo, ook... sorry I am noob at this, but what do u suggest i do to fix it
[12:32] <laughtear> unop, hi... yes, i'm sure about it.
[12:33] <tester> fyrestrtr, the broken account has xchat on auto-start, so i can come back on that account and still talk if you want to do tests
[12:33] <unop> laughtear, did you setup that install with a seperate /home partition?
[12:33] <fyrestrtr> tester: sudo rm /home/yourbrokenaccount/.Xauthority
[12:33] <pobbel> see-g: Thanks for your help
[12:33] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear: any hd that you want to access will never show in home, if it isnt in fstab it wont be mounted automatically menaing you need to mount it to /media
[12:33] <unop> see-g, it's possible that /etc/rc.local is run after you logon -- since gdm starts up much earlier
[12:34] <Dedoimedo> honky, you can fix it by using a very handy tool called super grub disk http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ boot the iso, boot from CD and fix the installations ...
[12:34] <laughtear> yes, i did so, but i used different user name and password (but they're also my own, if asked i could answer both)
[12:34] <niklas> remoteCTRL, 65mb/sec you say. I have sata disks at the moment ant gigabit interface. Transferring 800 mbit/sec with nfs between two servers. That must be more than 65mb/sec?
[12:34] <unop> laughtear, are you running an ubuntu session now?
[12:34] <remoteCTRL> niklas:  that would be 100mb and cole to a miracle:)
[12:34] <remoteCTRL> close
[12:34] <laughtear> Baby_Shambl3s: i can mount it, and it's now mounted on my desktop, i can see the home folder in it, but i can see no files inside it
[12:34] <tester> fyrestrtr, there is no file .Xauthority
[12:34] <tester> fyrestrtr, or anything similar to that
[12:34] <remoteCTRL> niklas:  is it a raid?
[12:34] <fyrestrtr> tester: ah yes ... now that I think about it.
[12:34] <laughtear> unop: yes, this is also an ubuntu session
[12:35] <niklas> remoteCTRL, only software mirror raid
[12:35] <fyrestrtr> fyrestrtr: ls -l /home/thebrokenaccount and pastebin the result.
[12:35] <unop> laughtear, run this command and give us this url it returns.    which pastebinit || sudo aptitude install pastebinit;  { mount; sudo fdisk -l; } | pastebinit
[12:35] <remoteCTRL> niklas: what sort of raid?
[12:35] <remoteCTRL> niklas:  ah raid 0?
[12:35] <unop> laughtear, if you setup a seperate /home partition - you need to mount that partition instead
[12:35] <honkyD> oook thanks Dedoimedo i will try that
[12:36] <niklas> remoteCTRL, No, mirroring. Raid 1
[12:36] <cwillu> remoteCTRL, (that would be raid 1)
[12:36] <remoteCTRL> niklas: yeah if the receiving side is a raid that is possible and i'd say just fine, wont get more out of that...
[12:36] <tester> fyrestrtr, http://pastebin.com/d5aacbf80
[12:36] <Dedoimedo> honky: excellent, report back if you succeed, write down the solutions so everyone can learn ... and if it doesnt work you can send me an email (my webiste is www.dedoimedo.com) or send me a pm at ubuntu forums, I'm a member there under same name...
[12:36] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear: oh it is mounted weird someone earlier had the same problem like unop suggested are you sure it's the correct one especially if you have different partitions, also if you go other files in there or havent you could check how much disk space is being taken i.e. if the hd is 3GB and it shows that only 2GB are free than you know files are there which is a problem cause you cnat access them
[12:37] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear: stupid idea have you tried ctrl+h
[12:37] <laughtear> unop: that partition is mounted now on my desktop. listen; i installed one partition ubuntu studio, and (just for trying) i installed another ubuntu onto the other partition (intrepid ibex which i'm now using to contact you).
[12:37] <niklas> remoteCTRL, Its not striped raid. When I send in 800 mbit/sec, the data has to be stored identical on two disks. No speed up here.
[12:37] <laughtear> Baby_Shambl3s: i tried that (show hidden files)
[12:37] <cwillu> laughtear, what's the problem?
[12:37] <unop> laughtear, when you setup the previous ubuntu.   did or did you not setup a seperate partition for your /home directory?
[12:37] <niklas> remoteCTRL, With CIFS (smb) I get 240 mbit/sec.
[12:38] <fyrestrtr> tester: the same, but with -la
[12:38] <remoteCTRL> niklas:  not on a mirror, that is true and i guess its some 10000 or 15000 rpm scsi disks or what?
[12:38] <niklas> remoteCTRL, No, Seagate barracudda es.2 disks spinning at 7200 rpm
[12:38] <Baby_Shambl3s> unop, laughtear: didnt think of that but unop might be right if you accidently used the same home everythign got formated
[12:38] <see-g> unop: I assumed that it's ok to go for a coffee or so while the computer starts up, therefore rc.local would have been run by the time you come back ;)
[12:38] <niklas> remoteCTRL, Normal sata disks
[12:38] <remoteCTRL> niklas: wow i want those too!
[12:38] <tester> fyrestrtr, http://pastebin.com/d48cca08a
[12:39] <remoteCTRL> niklas: as said try rsync that doesnt need a server running and its small, effective, fast
[12:39] <niklas> remoteCTRL, I don't think its any special with the disks.
[12:39] <unop> see-g, there is no guarantee of that tho :) someother init script might have failed to return and rc.local might never get the chance to run :)
[12:39] <remoteCTRL> niklas: 100mb/sec is extraordinarily fast
[12:39] <laughtear> unop: oh my god...:S please listen carefully...:) i have 2 drives, and 2 ubuntus on each drive. one of them is working (this one) and other one is crushed (the other one). i need to get my files from the crushed one which is now mounted by me on this desktop, but can't see the contents of the home folder of that crushed partitions
[12:39] <niklas> remoteCTRL, You did not read my preferring. I said I wanted to use iSCSI.
[12:40] <cuak> is anybody can help me?
[12:40] <gfather> guys i installed ubuntu through wubi , i want to uninstall , and reinstall , but the uninstaller is not working
[12:40] <unop> laughtear, answer my question - it's not overly complex
[12:40] <gfather> what should i do
[12:40] <ottoshmidt> hi all, do you know any software to split video files (MPEG)?
[12:40] <Dedoimedo> otto try virtualdub
[12:40] <ottoshmidt> Dedoimedo, ok
[12:40] <laughtear> unop, sure thing, forgive me if i'll misunderstood because of my english (not my main language)
[12:41] <Dedoimedo> http://www.virtualdub.org/
[12:41] <remoteCTRL> niklas: wont work with sata
[12:41] <unop> laughtear, did you partition your disk when you installed the last ubuntu?  if so, did you create one just for /home?
[12:41] <see-g> unop: well ... there's always the possibility that the heavens fall down ;)
[12:41] <rockyrock> hi guys, I have no inetrnet connection at all in my Desktop PC "I'm using a laptop now", and I have Ubuntu 8.04 on my Desktop so how can i make update for the system!!! I can only use my laptop in the internet cafe.
[12:41] <niklas> remoteCTRL, I had ~120 mbit/sec when I was using default realtek 1 gbit network card in my server. I switched to a intel gigabit desktop card and it jumped up to 800 mbit/sec.
[12:41] <rockyrock> Do u have any solution for my prob?
[12:42] <unop> see-g, that possibility is quite low as compared to scripts failing :)
[12:42] <cwillu> rockyrock, you have two machines, and you only have access to one of them right now?
[12:42] <rockyrock> cwillu, yes
[12:42] <remoteCTRL> niklas: i seriously doubt that but if you say so...
[12:42] <cwillu> rockyrock, have you previously installed anything on the other machine (openssh-server, etc)?
[12:42] <unop> laughtear, run this command (copy and paste it in your terminal) , and give us the url it returns.     which pastebinit || sudo aptitude install pastebinit;  { mount; sudo fdisk -l; } | pastebinit
[12:42] <Baby_Shambl3s> !internet | rockyrock
[12:42] <Baby_Shambl3s> !net
[12:42] <rockyrock> cwillu, now
[12:42] <Baby_Shambl3s> stupid bot
[12:43] <Baby_Shambl3s> :/
[12:43] <cwillu> rockyrock, if you haven't already installed openssh-server on the remote machine, you're out of luck
[12:43] <laughtear> unop: well, i probably partitioned my hdd as installing first or second one. but if you're askin' this: i have partition 1, and partition 2. i have and ubuntu and it's home folder on partition 1. and i have another ubuntu and also it's own home folder on partition 2 too
[12:43] <Baby_Shambl3s> cwillu: why hasnt he got internet on the other machine?
[12:43] <unop> laughtear, then you probably need to mount the second partition on the first disk. i.e. the home folder
[12:43] <rockyrock> cwillu,  what is openssh-server?
[12:43] <niklas> remoteCTRL, To get this even more complicated, I have all hard drives on the server encrypted with AES 256 bit. Still I get 800 mbit/sec. Kinda neat :)
[12:43] <cwillu> !info openssh-server
[12:43] <cwillu> lets you log in remotely
[12:43] <laughtear> unop: it's mounted, hello, do you hear meee???...:(
[12:44] <unop> laughtear, mounting the main partition does not mount the second. which is why /home will appear empty to you
[12:44] <cwillu> laughtear, check your pms
[12:44] <unop> laughtear, run this command (copy and paste it in your terminal) , and give us the url it returns.     which pastebinit || sudo aptitude install pastebinit;  { mount; sudo fdisk -l; } | pastebinit  # i won't ask again
[12:44] <see-g> unop: then ... there's always the chance that a bag of rice tips over in China?
[12:44] <cwillu> (pm
[12:44] <laughtear> unop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30883/
[12:44] <rockyrock> cwillu, no I have no i don't want to access the other machine!
[12:45] <remoteCTRL> niklas: impressing
[12:45] <niklas> remoteCTRL, Oh, gonna take my last post in consideration. I don't remember if my speed test was with our without encrypted turned on. Well, I guess I need to do a new speed test. w8
[12:45] <laughtear> cwillu: i don't know how to check my pms in this xchat program (really)
[12:45] <cwillu> rockyrock, what is it you need to do?
[12:45] <rockyrock> cwillu, I want to make update to the other machine cuz i have can't reach the internet in my house
[12:45] <cwillu> oh, you want to download the updates, so that you can update at your house?
[12:45] <rockyrock> cwillu, i can reach it only in the internet cafe
[12:46] <unop> laughtear, what was that?
[12:46] <unop> laughtear, it's not what i asked for.
[12:46] <laughtear> alrite, you're having fun with me...
[12:46] <rockyrock> cwillu, yes i want to download the updates using my laptop in the internet cafe then install them on my Deskop PC
[12:46] <laughtear> unop: than what was it...:(
[12:46] <unop> laughtear,   which pastebinit || sudo aptitude install pastebinit;  { mount; sudo fdisk -l; } | pastebinit
[12:46] <unop> laughtear, that there is all one command
[12:46] <cwillu> rockyrock, if you have the same packages installed on the laptop, then update the laptop at the coffeeshop, and then sync the contents of /var/cache/apt/archive/
[12:47] <laughtear> unop: ok, doing that
[12:47] <rockyrock> cwillu, i have xubuntu cuz my laptop is weak
[12:47] <nuvan> i've got an SSH server running on my ubuntu install.  i'm trying to use key based auth to simplify connection, but it's always rejected, saying "bad service request ssh-connection"
[12:47] <laughtear> unop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30884/
[12:48] <tingle> is there a way to easy set my laptop fans a bit higher?
[12:48] <ottoshmidt> Dedoimedo, there is no native version for Mac OS X or Linux of virtualdub :(
[12:48] <cwillu> laughtear, just run the { mount; sudo fdisk -l; } | pastebinit section of it
[12:48] <andersfeder> i'm experiencing lots of trouble with Firebox under Ubuntu recently .. the browser window hangs (and turns grey) sometimes for seconds, sometimes minutes, sometimes indefinitely ... what can be the cause?
[12:48] <see-g> rockyrock: hang on a moment, I know that it works, I just have to look up how
[12:48] <eth01> how do you check the temps within ubuntu btw?
[12:48] <eth01> (without checking bios, ssh for e.g.)
[12:48] <rockyrock> see-g, oky
[12:48] <niklas> I would like to see what network speed my network card is set at. How can I do this?
[12:49] <eth01> i'd love to know :p
[12:49] <cwillu> niklas, miitool I believe
[12:49] <cwillu> mii-diag, rather
[12:49] <chiyuchao> 居然没有人用中文
[12:49] <tester> fyrestrtr, you there still?
[12:49] <unop> laughtear, you are looking for the files in /media/kukurik ?
[12:49] <niklas> cwillu, mii-diag. Thanks
[12:50] <laughtear> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30885/
[12:50] <tre_27> eth01: is acpi on your machine supports it, you can do: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/temperature
[12:50] <laughtear> unop: yes i do
[12:50] <ottoshmidt> any other video splitting soft?
[12:50] <Dedoimedo> otto: virtualdub didnt work for you?
[12:51] <ottoshmidt> Dedoimedo, it's not for linux
[12:51] <Dedoimedo> otto: u sure??
[12:51] <jazzkutya> you can try with tine
[12:51] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear: that command he gave you he wanted you to post the link that terminal gave you i tried it myself never knew you could do that
[12:51] <ottoshmidt> Dedoimedo, actually i'm downloading it yet
[12:52] <jazzkutya> but afaik virtualdub is mostly for avi files
[12:52] <ottoshmidt> but on web it was written so
[12:52] <jazzkutya> wine
[12:52] <ottoshmidt> ok ill try wine
[12:52] <unop> laughtear, are you sure you haven't got /dev/sda2 mixed up with /dev/sdb2 ..  ?
[12:52] <Dedoimedo> u can use wine indeed
[12:52] <see-g> rockyrock: would this one help you? http://beans.seartipy.com/2006/11/03/simple-way-to-update-ubuntu-edgy-with-slowno-internet-connection/
[12:52] <laughtear> Baby_Shambl3s: sorry i could not understand what you just said.
[12:53] <unop> laughtear, sudo mkdir -p /media/sdb2; sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/sdb2; nautilus /media/sdb2
[12:53] <niklas> With mii-diag I can see that my computer is using 100 mbit instead of 1000 mbit as network speed. I have a 1000 mbit network card. How can I force it to use this speed? The network cable is cat6 and is connected to a gigabit switch
[12:53] <laughtear> unop: if i could be so sure about things i'm telling here, i would not crush my other ubuntu buddy. mean, i'm not sure.
[12:53] <inspyre> what about avidemux
[12:53] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear: np
[12:53] <rockyrock> see-g, i'm reading it
[12:54] <zerogate> i want to see the immediate changes of a logfile (live). there is a way to do this, isn't there?
[12:54] <jazzkutya> zerogate: tail -f logfile
[12:54] <hateball> zerogate: tail -f
[12:54] <laughtear> unop: this is the other hdd (not partition) which windows installed. it's not about my problem.
[12:54] <zerogate> jazzkutya, hateball - ah, thanks :D
[12:55] <tester> if anyone can help, i'm still having trouble opening applications on my other user :(  fyrestrtr was helping me but he seems to have had a call from reality :(
[12:55] <unop> laughtear, on which partition was the previous ubuntu installed?   this one is running on /dev/sda1
[12:55] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear: im confused you said 2 hds with ubuntu now youre saying one has windows and its not partitioned?
[12:55] <laughtear> Baby_Shambl3s: could anybody give me an example for opening a folder as a root user, i think that could work, let me see the contents
[12:55] <cwillu> tester, is the other user still logged in?
[12:55] <Schoentje> can someone give me the link to the xubuntu install cd?
[12:56] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear: nope no one would tell you how to do that
[12:56] <tester> cwillu, not at the moment
[12:56] <Dedoimedo> http://www.xubuntu.org/
[12:56] <see-g> rockyrock: that leaves us with one problem, though: how to get the updated packages lists from the internet to your desktop pc
[12:56] <tester> cwillu, i made this one to see if the problem was with the user or the system, this one can open applications fine
[12:56] <rockyrock> see-g, i haven't completed the reading, plz wait :)
[12:57] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear: tell me something looking at this link http://pastebin.com/f332166e9 which hd is messed up sda1/sda2?
[12:57] <laughtear> unop, Baby_Shambl3s: okay, listen once and for last again please, here is total explanations of my hdd's...: there is 2 hard disk drives on this desktop computer. one of them is used by windows, so this is not our subject.
[12:58] <cwillu> tester, do you have a second machine you can log into irc with, or are you familiar with irrsi?
[12:58] <laughtear> unop, Baby_Shambl3s:... and there is another hdd (320 gb) and this is the hdd which has 3 partitions: one of them is for ubuntu studio, another is for ubuntu intrepid ibex, and the last one is for swap.
[12:59] <tester> cwillu, a) i don't, b) i'm not, but c) my other account can log into IRC because xchat is on auto-start.  Programs that auto-start are fine so long as i don't close them
[12:59] <laughtear> unop, Baby_Shambl3s: i have no problem with intrepid ibex, now using it to contact you. but the ubuntu studio partition has problem, can't boot (grup is out of order) etc.. etc...
[12:59] <tester> cwillu, do you want me to log into that account?
[12:59] <andersfeder> hello .. i'm experiencing lots of trouble with Firebox under Ubuntu recently .. the browser window hangs (and turns grey) sometimes for seconds, sometimes minutes, sometimes indefinitely ... what can be the cause?
[13:00] <cwillu> tester, first, hit ctrl+alt+f1, and then ctrl+alt+f7, tell me if you see a terminal screen, and then your test user session?
[13:00] <cwillu> (wait a few seconds between c+a+f1 and c+a+f7)
[13:00] <tester> cwillu, i do
[13:00] <cwillu> okay, then yes, go ahead
[13:00] <dns53> andersfeder try dissabling some of the forgery protection
[13:00] <tester> cwillu, brb as Lusule
[13:00] <cwillu> tester, just ping me
[13:00] <yago> hi all, does anyone has problems with KHUND?
[13:01] <laughtear> unop, Baby_Shambl3s: i need to reinstall ubuntu, so want to back my files up from ubuntu studio's home folder, but i can't reach them from here (other partition-not hdd) to get them back. because i can mount the partition but i can't see the contents of the home folder... that's the all situation i have buddies, please, this can not be that hard to understand and solve
[13:01] <cwillu> laughtear, sudo chown -R <username> /media/<wherever-you-mounted-it>/home/<username>
[13:01] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear: thats funny cause that link doesn't show a windows partition and if youre saying it is used by window that is wrong and explains why it is messed. /sdb is used by windows and why you cnat see your home might be because you have the wrong drive mounted, by what im seeing you have 3 drives and the third is partitioned /dev/sdb
[13:02] <dns53> andersfeder  under security disable tell me about visiting an attack site or forgery,  though it is not ideal to dissable this extra security
[13:02] <Dark_angel> :P
[13:02] <laughtear> cwillu: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GOD'S SAKE (or what you believe in most)
[13:02] <Dark_angel> proplem to linnux:S
[13:02] <jazzkutya> Baby_Shambl3s: there are windows partitions on /dev/sdb in his pastebin stuff
[13:02] <PsyChoSiS_> hey any1 know of a Mp3 ripper for ubuntu ?
[13:02] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear, i currently have all my three drives mounted and never had this problem
[13:02] <Baby_Shambl3s> jazzkutya: i mentioned that read my post again
[13:03] <jazzkutya> sorry started typing too early :)
[13:03] <laughtear> Baby_Shambl3s: good for you buddy, however i can NOT
[13:03] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear, thats why im here thinking what could stop you from looking at your home in a different drive
[13:03] <cwillu> Baby_Shambl3s, his problem is that the uid on studio wasn't matching the uid of the same name on intrepid
[13:04] <unop> laughtear,  what does this give you?   pastebinit < /media/kukurik/etc/fstab
[13:04] <rockyrock> see-g, yes this is the only problem! How can we get the updated packages lists from the internet to my Desktop pc?
[13:04] <andersfeder> dns53: ok, will try .. thanks .. you owe me beer if i get phished
[13:04] <Baby_Shambl3s> cwillu: since i never had this problem how can it be solved
[13:04] <laughtear> unop: it gives me a quite simple "permission denied"
[13:04] <yahya__> hi, how do iset which driver to use fort my gfx card? I want to use unichrome drivers
[13:05] <newbe1> I want to check disk space  I installed ubuntu in a 30 gig partition   thanks
[13:05] <cwillu> Baby_Shambl3s, it's not a problem it's the fact that two computers don't necessarily have names that mean the same thing
[13:05] <rockyrock> see-g, do u have a solution?
[13:05] <PsyChoSiS_> Pls can sometell me how i can rip a cd to Mp3 format using ubuntu ?? or cant u do that with this OS...?
[13:05] <laughtear> Baby_Shambl3s: i know buddy, but i really got tired, i even think to wipe and go buy a silly game op sys..
[13:05] <unop> laughtear,  this maybe?     sudo cat /media/kukurik/etc/fstab  | pastebini
[13:05] <unop> cwillu, his problem is that that directory is empty - totally void of anything
[13:05] <cwillu> Baby_Shambl3s, sudo chown'ing the home directory to the uid used by intrepid fixes it
[13:05] <yahya__> hi, how do iset which driver to use fort my gfx card? I want to use unichrome drivers
[13:06] <laughtear> unop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30893/
[13:06] <Baby_Shambl3s> cwillu: see if i only know how to chown that way to ubuntish for me
[13:06] <newbe1> I want to check disk space  I installed ubuntu in a 30 gig partition   thanks
[13:06] <cwillu> Baby_Shambl3s, ?
[13:06] <Baby_Shambl3s> cwillu: nvm silly joke
[13:07] <unop> laughtear, hmm.   sudo find /media/kukurik/home/
[13:07] <PsyChoSiS_> So u telling me Ubuntu cant even rip a cd ?
[13:07] <newbe1> I want to check disk space  I installed ubuntu in a 30 gig partition   private message me thanks
[13:07] <yahya__> hi, how do iset which driver to use fort my gfx card? I want to use unichrome drivers
[13:08] <unop> newbe1, use the gnome-system-monitor
[13:08] <remoteCTRL> newbe1: df
[13:08] <tre_27> !patience | PsyChoSiS_
[13:08] <Baby_Shambl3s> PsyChoSiS_: yes it cna look at your menu under sound & videos
[13:08] <tre_27> PsyChoSiS_: install cdparanoia, lame and grip
[13:08] <Baby_Shambl3s> tre_27: he doesnt need to it comes with the system Brasero
[13:08] <newbe1> unop  thanks
[13:08] <maria> shut uppppppppppp
[13:09] <remoteCTRL> PsyChoSiS_: sure, sound-juicer can
[13:09] <newbe1> remote  thanks
[13:09] <Baby_Shambl3s> !language | maria
[13:09] <maria> zirt
[13:09] <maria> erenkoy
[13:09] <Baby_Shambl3s> bored
[13:09] <tre_27> Baby_Shambl3s: alright. i don't the ubuntu default install.
[13:09] <laughtear> unop: the last command you told, listed me the all files inside that drive
[13:09] <maria> Baby_Shambl3s  kill you
[13:09] <maria> :)
[13:10] <unop> laughtear, errm no. it should have only listed files in the home directory - unless you changed the command around.
[13:10] <unop> laughtear,   paste a bit of what you see there.
[13:10] <Baby_Shambl3s> tre_27: thats why you probably went pro and isnatll through shell under minimum install too pro :)
[13:10] <Baby_Shambl3s> maria: ha find me first
[13:11] <tre_27> Baby_Shambl3s: not just shell system here :) xubuntu 7.04 with fluxbox running instead of xfce4
[13:11] <yahya__> hi, how do iset which driver to use fort my gfx card? I want to use unichrome drivers ANYONE PLEASE?! it is urgent :S
[13:11] <idham> I've done updating hardy 64 bit on a MacBook Pro 4.1 and now my touchpad isn't working anymore, anyone can help ?
[13:12] <Baby_Shambl3s> tre_27: nice i wonder how many actually take out JWM from xubuntu i think its awful in it and not fast at all compared to puppy
[13:12] <chrisyagami> hola O_O'?
[13:12] <DINO_MC_47> ы
[13:12] <unop> laughtear, you still there?
[13:13] <tre_27> Baby_Shambl3s: JWM?
[13:13] <Baby_Shambl3s> unop: im sure he said something on the lines of clean install and going out if im not mistaken or read it well
[13:13] <tre_27> Baby_Shambl3s: the xfce window manager is called xfwm4
[13:14] <unop> Baby_Shambl3s, thats what i understand too and he's attempting to recover his personal files from the older install
[13:14] <chrisyagami> alguien que me pueda ayudar :S
[13:14] <unop> !es
[13:14] <newbe1> just looked at system monitor   what is Xorg    thanks
[13:14] <Baby_Shambl3s> tre_27: oh no wonder it was resource hog lol i just stick with JWM or flux
[13:15] <nich^> Hi!, is there a way to make the borders on gnome-terminal thicker? I always struggle to get the mouse pointer on the border to resize it :)
[13:16] <chrisyagami> hello, some people that help me T_T
[13:16] <jazzkutya> nich^: tip: hold alt and drag any part of the window
[13:16] <jazzkutya> nich^: with the middle button!
[13:16] <nich^> jazzkutya: awesome!! :)
[13:16] <Achoth> Hello. How do I use .run files (it's graphic drivers)?
[13:17] <jazzkutya> but agree visually it's a bit frustrating, the borderless terminal :)
[13:17] <TiredWolf> Achoth, i really recommend using the Ubuntu-provided graphics drivers instead.
[13:17] <unop> Achoth, chmod +x file.run; ./file.run
[13:17] <nich^> haha :)
[13:17] <unop> Achoth, you might need to use sudo as appropriate
[13:17] <Achoth> TiredWolf: Why is that?
[13:17] <Achoth> unop: Thanks
[13:18] <yahya__> hi, how do iset which driver to use fort my gfx card? I want to use unichrome drivers ANYONE PLEASE?! it is urgent :S
[13:18] <TiredWolf> Achoth: because 1) they were tested for Ubuntu 2) they're made to install files in the right places for Ubuntu 3) when you get upgrades (kernel upgrades for instance), the drivers will be updated too, instead of letting you with a blank screen
[13:18] <TiredWolf> Achoth: see also /msg ubottu latest
[13:19] <chrisyagami> em, i have problem with compiz fusion :S, see the screen blank :S when actived the effects
[13:19] <Achoth> TiredWolf: Alright :)
[13:19] <Achoth> TiredWolf: I've got ATi, so the latest drivers are tested on Ubuntu :)
[13:20] <TiredWolf> Achoth: also, if you didn't know how to run the .run file, then you'll almost certainly be in trouble at the next important upgrade. (which doesn't mean that someone who does know how to run a .run file ought to install the drivers like that, i don't)
[13:20] <Adondai> anybody aware of a RSS reader which syncs with Newsgator Online?
[13:20] <IndyGunFreak> !rss
[13:20] <tre_27> yahya__: which driver are you using now?
[13:20] <r0bertchik> Can anyone tell me what the difference is between "Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-19-virtual" and "Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-19-generic" (ie. the last word is "virtual" as opposed to "generic")
[13:21] <IndyGunFreak> r0bertchik: probably nothing to get your panties in a wad over.
[13:21] <yahya__> tre_27, VESA, it was elected by default :S
[13:21] <TiredWolf> Achoth, well is there any compelling reason why you should use the drivers from upstream rather than the Ubuntu package? if not, then why would you. if yes, well there's always exceptions
[13:21] <coagen> installing drivers with a .run file is usually a bitch because you have to do it manually each new release :|
[13:21] <r0bertchik> they aren't in a wad - just wanted to to understand the difference between the two
[13:21] <Achoth> TiredWolf: Now I know how to do it, so the next upgrade I'll be ready!
[13:21] <tre_27> yahya__: last time i checked the unichrome driver was not included in ubuntu due to stability reasons. thanks to VIA's insane information policy...
[13:22] <IndyGunFreak> r0bertchik: probably nothing that some extreme techie wouldn't understand.. i admit, i don't know.
[13:22] <coagen> r0bertchik: generic is for general computers, and virtual is for virtual machines
[13:22] <IndyGunFreak> well duh.
[13:22] <TiredWolf> Achoth: except next upgrade you'll be left with a blank screen, so unless you know how to redownload the driver using a text-mode-only interface from the web, tough luck
[13:22] <IndyGunFreak> i think he knew that much
[13:22] <r0bertchik> coagen - can you explain?
[13:23] <tre_27> !info xserver-xorg-video-unichrome
[13:23] <Achoth> TiredWolf: That I know how to do, lynx :) otherwise I can boot into another OS and download it
[13:23] <coagen> r0bertchik: what part was not understood? generic has optimizations for generic computers, virtual has optimizations for virtual machines... i do not know what the specifics are
[13:23] <TiredWolf> Achoth: fine then
[13:24] <yahya__> tre_27, when i started the laptop is first notified me that it is using VESA and it asked me to choose manually, but i prssd cancel by mistak and now i cant find that thing again to set it to unichrome :(
[13:24] <coagen> Achoth: are you comfortable with the terminal? TiredWolf is right.. you need to be sure you can do an install with out X windows
[13:25] <tre_27> yahya__: back up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:25] <r0bertchik> Ok then - where does the Virtual boot menu item come from - since when you install by default it isn't there. Also - why would virtual machines be reading the local system's disk - wouldn't they be getting all their configuration information from the virtual hard disk?
[13:25] <Achoth> coagen: I'm trying to learn how do use it, so yes
[13:25] <Achoth> coagen: In the worst case I'll just write "irssi" and ask here
[13:26] <coagen> Achoth: then please ask specific questions as you questions so far are quite generic
[13:26] <TiredWolf> coagen, i don't really know either, but i may suggest looking at "cat /boot/config-2.6.24-19-generic" (or whatever is relevant to your kernel) to see the options it has been configured with. if you install both the generic and the virtual, then do "diff /boot/...generic /boot/...virtual" to see what's actually different
[13:27] <Achoth> coagen: I've just asked one question actually, about how to use .run files. The reason I cannot be more specific is because I am in fact a noob
[13:27] <Abed> i would to install a file it is a *.package but i am a linux newbie
[13:27] <coagen> r0bertchik: viritual boot menu item? you mean like the kernel selection? i dont know why its not there... i would assume it should be... the virtual kernel afaik was created for use in virtual machines with the jeos "just enough operating system" distribution of ubuntu designed specifically for virtual machines
[13:28] <coagen> TiredWolf: thanks, thats right thats exactly where to find it :)
[13:29] <coagen> Achoth: ok how to use them? you mean how to execute them? you can do chmod +x filename and then ./filename or just sh filename
[13:29] <unop> coagen, not all scripts will run under sh
[13:30] <Abed> i would to install a file it is a *.package but i am a linux newbie
[13:30] <coagen> unop: correct... so if that doesnt work then he must chmod!
[13:31] <unop> coagen, he must - he doesn't have to - he just needs to run it under the appropriate interpreter
[13:31] <Abed> i would to install a file it is a *.package but i am a linux newbie
[13:31] <ompaul> !repos | Abed
[13:31] <unop> Abed, consult the documentation that came with this file
[13:31] <coagen> unop: of course
[13:32] <unop> Abed, if you downloaded it from somewhere, check if the site/source has any documentation
[13:32] <n0gear> how do i get rainlendar to run at startup?
[13:32] <ompaul> Abed, I strongly suggest you follow the links ubottu gave as they will enlighten you a lot
[13:32] <des_> hi guys
[13:32] <Abed> unop ok
[13:32] <TiredWolf> Abed, which program is that by the way?
[13:32] <des_> is it possbile to connect ubuntu to an xbox 360?
[13:32] <supravat> hello
[13:33] <des_> apparently ushare can do it, but i cant install it
[13:33] <TiredWolf> des_: connect as in serve a media server to it?
[13:33] <des_> yes
[13:33] <wols_> des_: why not?
[13:33] <yoyoned> n0gear: at the start of what?
[13:34] <TiredWolf> des_: try seeing https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Media
[13:34] <des_> cheers
[13:34] <_606_> Hotite sosat'
[13:34] <TiredWolf> !english | _606_
[13:34] <n0gear> yoyo so it would start automatically when i bootup
[13:35] <_606_> Da
[13:35] <coagen> russki ludi izdes
[13:35] <TiredWolf> !ru
[13:35] <yoyoned> n0gear: are you using gnome
[13:35] <coagen> thx
[13:35] <milan_> exit
[13:35] <n0gear> i think so yes
[13:35] <coagen> haha
[13:35] <milan_> ex-caht
[13:36] <milan_> ex-chat
[13:36] <_606_> Chto hosh sosat'
[13:37] <yoyoned> from menu: System>Preferences>Session  under the startup tab, there is a place to add applications
[13:37] <n0gear> ok i'll try that...thanks a lot yoyo
[13:37] <_606_> Ili uge sosish
[13:38] <TiredWolf> _606_, #ubuntu-ru for russian, here for english
[13:38] <_606_> Y y
[13:38] <yoyoned> n0gear: ask again if you can't get it working
[13:38] <_606_> Hosh sosat'
[13:38] <TiredWolf> !ops | _606_
[13:39] <jpds> !en | _606_
[13:39] <TiredWolf> been there done that ;)
[13:39] <yoyoned> !ru
[13:39] <_606_> Sosite
[13:41] <laughtear> thanks everyone who helped, or at least tried...:)
[13:41] <bmg>
[13:41] <laughtear> problem is solved
[13:42] <rizingdamp> Just out of curiosity I have seen Chanserv giving operator status to a user then removing it.......as in what just happened to ompaul.  Whats happening at that point?
[13:42] <jpds> rizingdamp: He asked ChanServ to remove his powers as they are no longer needed.
[13:43] <rizingdamp> ok ty jpds
[13:43] <jpds> rizingdamp: As per the op guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines
[13:43] <jpds> rizingdamp: That, or ChanServ doesn't like him.
[13:43] <rockyrock> guy plz give me a direct link to download wine for my Ubuntu 8.04
[13:44] <magentar> wine.budgetdedicated.com
[13:44] <ompaul> rockyrock, if you have a net connection sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install wine
[13:44] <rizingdamp> I have not so long ago made the switch from windows to ubuntu.  Although I am struggling with it....I like to just sit in here and gleen what I can from other persons questions.
[13:44] <Sorcererbob> rockyrock: apt://wine :)
[13:44] <rockyrock> I have no internet connection
[13:44] <Sorcererbob> ah, that makes it harder
[13:45] <Sorcererbob> apparently they don't host the current one on winehq
[13:45] <rockyrock> magentar, thnx
[13:45] <magentar> wine.budgetdedicated.com, rockyrock, but these are none official packages of the newest version
[13:45] <Sorcererbob> the newest one I see is http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/ubuntu/hardy/wine_1.1.2~winehq0~ubuntu~8.04-2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[13:45] <magentar> otherwise packages.ubuntu.com
[13:45] <rockyrock> magentar, do they have bugs?
[13:46] <magentar> hopefully less than the ones from the repository ;)
[13:46] <Sorcererbob> rockyrock, of course. Even the newest WINE does
[13:46] <Johnny> i installed xfce and its not in my gdm?
[13:46] <zvacet> rockyrock :http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[13:46] <n0gear> yoyo it worked...thanks a lot again
[13:46] <IndyGunFreak> rockyrock: there's one thing you can always count on w/ wine, and thats bugs
[13:46] <rockyrock> Sorcererbob, so guys what do u suggest?
[13:46] <IndyGunFreak> rockyrock: what do you want to use wine for?
[13:46] <magentar> it doesnt hurt to get the unofficial ones, and they work better for most applications
[13:46] <rockyrock> It's only 7MB!
[13:47] <rockyrock> IndyGunFreak, for Photoshop
[13:47] <pogay> Is there a "user-fstab"? The Idee is that every user may have differnt wishes to mount, or avoid automatical mount.
[13:48] <IndyGunFreak> rockyrock: thats just the wine package, hopefully you have the dependencies installed for wine, or you're gonna get stuck in dependency hell, w/o an internet connection(fun)
[13:48] <pogay> may be i't possible to include in fstab  a $user-fstab
[13:48] <yoyoned> n0gear: np
[13:48] <TiredWolf> pogay: you shouldn't stab users. but anyway, mounts are something system wide, unless you use FUSE which allows something akin to mounts without root permissions
[13:48] <Johnny> does setting up /home in a different partition cause things to mess up
[13:48] <jtravnick> rockyrock, why not just use gimp?
[13:48] <ompaul> rockyrock, move computer with no access to a place where it has access to get your wine set up
[13:48] <rockyrock> IndyGunFreak, are u sure that i will face depedencies?
[13:48] <Johnny> i installed xfce and its not in my log in
[13:48] <IndyGunFreak> rockyrock: i didn't say i was sure, but i'd bet its likely
[13:49] <ompaul> rockyrock, you are making your life very hard the way you are doing it
[13:49] <rockyrock> ompaul, it's a desktop man!
[13:49] <yoyoned> Johnny how did you install xfce
[13:49] <ompaul> rockyrock, and there are no heros when it comes to installing software - as for its a desktop I got 70 of them to manage :)
[13:49] <Johnny> apt-get yoyoned
[13:50] <TiredWolf> rockyrock: i'm a desklamp man
[13:50] <IndyGunFreak> xfce wasn't in your session list Johnny
[13:50] <rockyrock> ompaul, but i don't have internet!!!!!!
[13:50] <IndyGunFreak> ?
[13:50] <Johnny> nope IndyGunFreak
[13:50] <pogay> TiredWolf:  yes exactly- I' don't like the fuse drive in the fstab either
[13:50] <ompaul> rockyrock, funny that, I could have sworn you are connected now
[13:50] <rockyrock> ompaul, i'm talking from the cafe
[13:50] <IndyGunFreak> weird.
[13:50] <Sidd> I am planning on trying out KDE4 in Hardy, would the crowd here suggest installing it using Aptitude in Ubuntu Hardy or using Kubuntu?
[13:51] <Johnny> kde sucks
[13:51] <IndyGunFreak> Sidd: i would suggest just not using it..lol, but to me, its either or, use aptitude, remove it when it clogs your PC, or use a live CD.
[13:51] <Sidd> Johnny: Why?
[13:51] <znh> Sidd: kubuntu-desktop as package delivers the same as Kubuntu's CD/DVD
[13:51] <yoyoned> Johnny a seperate /home partition souldn't affect it.  Have you tried loggong out and restarting gdm by pressing ctrl-alt-backpsace
[13:51] <Johnny> its intrinsic to its nature i guess Sidd
[13:51] <Sidd> znh: I'm planning on getting KDE-4
[13:51] <Johnny> yes yoyoned
[13:51] <Sidd> znh: Oops, I meant kde-core package
[13:52] <rockyrock> magentar,  guys can u know if i will face depedencies problem with the package that i already downloaded?
[13:52] <ompaul> rockyrock, talk nice to staff and get yourself sorted in five minutes rather than back and forth and back and forth, have a look at http://pool.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/
[13:52] <LordMetroid> How do I prevent the need to login everytime the computer goes idle?
[13:52] <znh> Sidd: perhaps on a clean Ubuntu Hardy (server installation) that might work out.. I would not suggest it on Ubuntu's default desktop installation
[13:52] <Sidd> Johnny: What do you mean? Is it slow or something?
[13:52] <IndyGunFreak> LordMetroid: system/pref/screensaver.. uncheck lock screen
[13:52] <Johnny> no its just a shit desktop enviroment
[13:52] <yoyoned> Johnny look in /usr/share/xsessions/ and see if there is an entry for xfce
[13:52] <magentar> rockyrock, i think you will do... you can look them up at packages.ubuntu.com
[13:52] <LordMetroid> IndyGunFreak, It is unchecked
[13:53] <Johnny> it looks like a cartoonist nightmare
[13:53] <Sidd> Oh
[13:53] <IndyGunFreak> LordMetroid: ?.. are you sure?..
[13:53] <rockyrock> ompaul, execuse me guys but i have a very very bad internet it always disconnects
[13:53] <magentar> rockyrock, it does not say there if the packages are installed or not...
[13:53] <LordMetroid> IndyGunFreak, Yepp
[13:53] <IndyGunFreak> Johnny: i totally agree w/ that... looks like something my 5yr old nephew thought up
[13:53] <Johnny> yea yoyoned there is
[13:53] <znh> rockyrock: you can avoid that with a so called IRC bouncer
[13:53] <Johnny> yes IndyGunFreak
[13:53] <Johnny> have you tried out awesome?
[13:53] <yoyoned> Johnny also try installing xubuntu-desktop
[13:54] <znh> rockyrock: pm me for more information as #ubuntu is offtopic for such talk
[13:54] <Sidd> XFCE looks like Windows 95
[13:54] <Johnny> http://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[13:54] <Johnny> unless you configure it right Sidd
[13:54] <IndyGunFreak> Sidd: except it doesn't lock up, isnt' slow, and you won't get molested by viruses/malware
[13:55] <alex-weej> Sidd: and XFCE has a compositor... and looks way nicer... and you can move the panels... no I don't think it looks like Windows 95 at all.
[13:55] <Sidd> IndyGunFreak: Rofl, Windows 95 never failed on me, especially when it was on
[13:55] <IndyGunFreak> Sidd: lucky you.
[13:55] <alex-weej> Sidd: what do you want from us here?
[13:55] <Sidd> when it was off*
[13:55] <pogay> has anybody tried enlightenment. Is it easy to install an additonal Dsiktop manager (where one can choose from by login).
[13:55] <Johnny> in menu.lst what do i put vga= ?
[13:55] <Johnny> just leave it blank?
[13:55] <znh> pogay: yes. also E17
[13:55]  * Cinderella linux QQ ?linux PP? Xchat
[13:56] <alex-weej> johnny: nothing. why do you need VGA options in grub?
[13:56] <TiredWolf> Johnny: what do you want to do?
[13:56] <LordMetroid> I have heard three explotions the last couple of weeks from my computer and today I noticed three capacitors that has blown open on the motherboard... Maybe related tohttp://www.areta.org/~lordmetroid/shot.png :( What ya think?
[13:56] <alex-weej> usplash should kick in straight away anyway
[13:56] <TiredWolf> alex-weej: well, one might still want to use the console sometimes
[13:56] <Johnny> because the terminal font is so big i cant see
[13:56] <Sidd> LordMetroid: Do oyu have an nvidia card?
[13:56] <alex-weej> TiredWolf: we have terminal emulators for that.
[13:56] <LordMetroid> Yes
[13:56] <pogay> znh: o.k. I will try it!
[13:56] <Johnny> i want to be able to see the command line TiredWolf
[13:56] <LordMetroid> Not overclocked though
[13:56] <alex-weej> johnny: gnome-terminal
[13:56] <TiredWolf> alex-weej: sure, and X never fails.
[13:56] <Sidd> LordMetroid: I used to have an nvidia card, and after I came back from vacation, it used to be normal for a while and then that used to happen, exactly like in that screenshot
[13:56] <TiredWolf> Johnny: what command line?
[13:57] <alex-weej> it doesn't... we have bulletproof x now :)
[13:57] <Vegombrei> hey guys is there a software for family tree etc ??
[13:57] <yoyoned> Johnny anwhere on the line that begins with kernel
[13:57] <TiredWolf> alex-weej: i'm laughing
[13:57] <Johnny> my boot
[13:57] <Sidd> LordMetroid: Does that happen at startup or after a few minutes?
[13:57] <th0r> Johnny what is the resolution of your monitor?
[13:57] <Johnny> tty1-6
[13:57] <LordMetroid> Sidd, Just one day when I turned the computer on, it all looked like this
[13:57] <alex-weej> TiredWolf: when does X ever fail? if it fails it falls back to a VESA mode
[13:57] <Johnny> not sure th0r
[13:57] <LordMetroid> From the beginning
[13:57] <TiredWolf> Johnny: then just hit ctrl+alt+fN
[13:57] <Johnny> how do i check quick
[13:57] <pdonor> Üdv mindenki!
[13:57] <th0r> Johnny well, can't tell you what to set vga= unless you can tell me the monitor resolution
[13:58] <Johnny> how do i find out th0r
[13:58] <TiredWolf> alex-weej: or it crashes the machine, or it keeps trying to load in a loop, or it loads with an awfully scrambled screen.
[13:58] <alex-weej> TiredWolf: so exceptional circumstances then
[13:58] <Johnny>   "1440x900"
[13:58] <TiredWolf> th0r: could always tell him to do "vga=ask", yet i'm not so entirely sure he needs any vga option
[13:58] <yoyoned> Johnny I use vga=773 for 1024x768
[13:58] <pdonor> MAGYAR?
[13:58] <TiredWolf> alex-weej: well, if X failing were a daily occurrence, i guess i would be on another OS already
[13:58] <alex-weej> GWOBDOR
[13:59] <Sidd> LordMetroid: Meh, I think it has something to do with the Nvidia card
[13:59] <alex-weej> TiredWolf: exactly. :P
[13:59] <yoyoned> grup vga codes http://www.mepis.org/node/2992
[13:59] <Sidd> LordMetroid: Oh wait
[13:59] <TiredWolf> alex-weej: that doesn't mean the command line isn't useful. ever done ctrl+alt+f1, login, password, sudo halt, password to shut down, rather than wait ages for X to shut down, uhm, "properly"?
[13:59] <EarthLion> hey, I just updated my nameserver /etc/resolv.conf  how do i restart the network card without rebooting?
[13:59] <Sidd> Lordmetroid: I remember a computer technician taking a look at it and there was a problem with the motherboard, apparently something had spoilt because it was too humid
[14:00] <alex-weej> TiredWolf: no. PLEASE file bug reports for that kind of problem.
[14:00] <alex-weej> TiredWolf: occasionally I ssh to my desktop to shut it down when I can't be arsed to go to it and hit the power button, though.
[14:00] <TiredWolf> alex-weej: what kind of problem? X takes its time to shutdown because it has to nicely ask all programs to stop. then if there's something unsaved, it has to ask you. it's doing its job.
[14:01] <TiredWolf> alex-weej: but *i* sometimes am just in a rush and need the computer powered off quickly.
[14:02] <gfather> guys how can i install ubuntu alone , not on windows , shouls i boot and install from cd?
[14:02] <hadeshorn> hey, my ath0 on my laptop has stopped being listed.. it can find lo and eth0 but ath0 has disappeared.. i cant ifup and ifdown it or anything
[14:02] <hadeshorn> any ideas?
[14:02] <bttb> Hi all
[14:02] <alex-weej> TiredWolf: switching VT and LOGGING IN and then issuing sudo shutdown -h now and then TYPING YOUR PASSWORD *AGAIN* is not quicker than System->Shutdown->Power Off
[14:02] <gfather> the thing im wondiring about , is that how can i boot between windows and ubuntu
[14:03] <fyrestrtr> gfather: by restarting your machine.
 i know that
[14:04] <jazzkutya> gfather: want to install windows after ubuntu? I advise you to get the alternate cd then in time :)
[14:04] <gfather> but does ubuntu installs a boot maneger , to chosoe between ubuntu and windows
[14:04] <znh> gfather: yes, it actually does :)
[14:04] <fyrestrtr> gfather: yes.
[14:05] <gfather> :)
[14:05] <fyrestrtr> gfather: as do most other linux distributions.
[14:05] <gfather> coolz :)
[14:05] <gfather> and if i formated windows after the installation that wouldent be a problem right
[14:05] <znh> gfather: at the end of the installation process it lists the installed operating systems. verify if your installation is listed before installing the bootloader though ;-)
[14:05] <cypherdelic> I got a mem-leak. Auto-hide of gnome panel causes the process to grow about 5mb when popup and again about 5mb when it auto-hide. On going, process never shrinks. Ubuntu Hardy 64bit, all updates. Compiz-off.
[14:05] <hadeshorn> wireless networking stopped working.. anyone ideas?
 i see
[14:05] <cypherdelic> Any ideas?
[14:06] <znh> hadeshorn: did any updates lately?
[14:06] <des_> TiredWolf: thanks for your help, works a treat!
[14:06] <hadeshorn> znh yep.. latest updates over eth0..
[14:06] <hadeshorn> znh, it just cant find ath0 now
[14:07] <znh> hadeshorn: try running an older version of your kernel. seems the update messed up the module for your wireless chipset
[14:07] <hadeshorn> znh good idea.. let me give that a try
 im trying to remove ubuntu from the add/remove program , but its not working ?
[14:08] <yoyoned> gfather: do you see ubuntu listed there
 yes
[14:09] <hadeshorn> znh! god call
[14:09] <hadeshorn> good call
[14:09] <gfather> i installed through wubi
[14:10] <hadeshorn> i went to an earlier kernel and wifi is back
[14:12] <cypherdelic> Is anyone familiar with gnome-panel major memory leak? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/229976
[14:13] <yoyoned> hadeshorn: I'm glad ypu got it working,  you should file a bug
[14:13] <znh> hadeshorn: np :)
[14:14] <remoteCTRL> gosh! my desktop is gone, how can i restore that?
[14:14] <remoteCTRL> also after restart
[14:16] <jtravnick> is there a way to get rhythmbox to play more random than it does out of the box?
[14:17] <TiredWolf> ... more random?
[14:18] <jtravnick> yea i have it on shuffle but yet there are some songs it hasnt ever played and some that it will play almost every time i start it
[14:18] <LordMetro> I hate being dissed
[14:18] <gfather> :S  , guys it wont get uninstalled
[14:18] <LordMetro> nothing is working beyond fobar
[14:18] <Kaja> That's the whole point in dissing - i guess.
[14:18] <enzotib> jtravnick: these are the pros and cons of statistics
[14:19] <shashi> I am facing a problem with DNS in Ubuntu 8.04 AMD64. If use any 32-bit browsers (flock,netscape,etc...) on a 64-bit Ubuntu platform, from the browser if i type any URL, then the DNS name resolution is not happening. But for 64-bit browsers this problem is not there. I think some library is missing in Ubuntu 64-bit. Anyone tell me what package do i need to install to overcome this problem ?
[14:19] <TiredWolf> jtravnick: well, randomness can very well result in that, you know, or it wouldn't be randomness if it played every track every time. however, it's possible that there is an actual problem in the shuffler, see bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/rhythmbox/+bug/6297 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/138629
[14:20] <SidStudios> Does anyone here have a perspective of how FreeBSD compares to Ubuntu?
[14:20] <TiredWolf> !offtopic | SidStudios
[14:20] <SidStudios> TiredWolf: I'm on FreeBSD, and I want to try out Ubuntu
[14:20] <chi_> SidStudios:  ubuntu is desktop freebsd is server ... in a nutshell ;D
[14:21] <TiredWolf> SidStudios: ok, but it's not an ubuntu support question, and it's the sort of thing that often results in flamewars. given this channel has very many people, such discussions are better held in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:21] <bastid_raZor> SidStudios; grab a liveCD and try it that way.
[14:21] <yoyoned> SidStudios: det a live cd,  you'll not have any trouble
[14:21] <SidStudios> TiredWolf: Ok, thanks for the advice
[14:21] <znh> chi_: FreeBSD can be a nice desktop
[14:22] <shashi_> I am facing a problem with DNS in Ubuntu 8.04 AMD64. If use any 32-bit browsers (flock,netscape,etc...) on a 64-bit Ubuntu platform, from the browser if i type any URL, then the DNS name resolution is not happening. But for 64-bit browsers this problem is not there. I think some library is missing in Ubuntu 64-bit. Anyone tell me what package do i need to install to overcome this problem ?
[14:22] <chi_> znh:  and ubuntu a nice server? at least software is configuable in both  systems ...
[14:23] <znh> chi_: yep
[14:24] <A[D]minS> i want to list files which older than 3 days ?  -> find /home/hazem/* -mtime -3
[14:24] <A[D]minS> i want to list files which older than 3 days   -> find /home/hazem/* -mtime -3  " this command right" ?
[14:29] <FibonacciGold> Hi, can anyone point me in the direction of how I can monitor systems over the network. Say I want 1 computer to monitor 3 others (core temp etc), cheers!
[14:29] <TiredWolf> A[D]minS: not sure, the manpage is a bit ambiguous... i guess test it on a directory and compare with "ls -l"
[14:29] <jpds> !info nagios > FibonacciGold
[14:29] <Gillpy> FibonacciGold: nagios, MRTP
[14:29] <jpds> !info munin | FibonacciGold
[14:29] <FibonacciGold> jpds: Gillpy: Thanks, I'll check them all out !
[14:30] <Gillpy> FibonacciGold: *MRTG  , sorry
[14:31] <deanm> lo can someone direct me to a repository that has cmake? for hardy
[14:32] <TiredWolf> deanm: actually, it's right there in the main repository.
[14:32] <jpds> !info cmake > deanm
[14:33] <deanm> thanks I'll check again
[14:34] <woland> ubuntu-it
[14:38] <XiXaQ> There is a free software for windows that is used to make a cdrom from an iso file. Does anyone remember what it's called?
[14:39] <jazzkutya> http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[14:40] <XiXaQ> thanks jazzkutya :)
[14:40] <jazzkutya> i used this myself to burn the alternate cd to get back to my linux :)
[14:41] <luke_> hi there, what is the configuration application for kde4
[14:41] <XiXaQ> I bought myself a new laptop and it came with Windows Vista. I thought I'd at least try it out thoroughly before I discarded it. I have, and now I'm getting ridd of it. I'd prefer breezy. :)
[14:41] <luke_> i tried control center but it seems its gnome not for kde4
[14:41] <Kunalagon> hello, can somebody tell me what should I install to get alsaconf ?? I installed many alsa thinkgs, but there is no alsaconf
[14:42] <chi_> kcontrol @ luke_
[14:42] <jazzkutya> Kunalagon: you can use packages.ubuntu.com to search contents of packages
[14:43] <luke_> cheers trying to install it now
[14:43] <chi_> ?
[14:43] <luke_> i need to tweak it to make it run a bit faster
[14:43] <chi_> luke_:  if you have kde installed you just need to type kcontrol in a console
[14:43] <jazzkutya> it seems ubuntu does not have it
[14:43] <luke_> chi_:  i tired but it doesnt work it wasnt installed for some odd reason
[14:44] <chi_> :D
[14:44] <antonsky> hey
[14:44] <antonsky> firefox doesnt work because i updated it
[14:45] <antonsky> shit
[14:47] <jazzkutya> antonsky: start it from a terminal and paste the results at http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:48] <Kunalagon> there is no alsaconf in latest ubuntu version?
[14:48] <Kunalagon> And does someby know how to configure sound card?
[14:49] <jazzkutya> Ubuntu removed it stating that it is not necessary.
[14:49] <jazzkutya> according to a forum
[14:49] <ompaul> !sound
[14:49] <jazzkutya> Kunalagon: what do you want to configure?
[14:51] <rockenrola> hi, I have an eps file that seems to have some errors. I can't open with gimp, ghostscript or inkscape. Is there a way to correct these errors?
[14:51] <jimqode> rockenrola, eps files are text files. you could try to fix it by hand
[14:52] <rockenrola> jimqode: I have tried that. no success
[14:52] <Kunalagon> jazzkutya, I want to do seomthig like alsaconf, a can here sound but I cannot use mixer anyhow, sound level, mic level etc.
[14:52] <methodmarvel> I'm running windows inside virtual box inside ubuntu - do I need virus software on the virtual machine?
[14:53] <Kunalagon> methodmarvel, I think you need
[14:53] <jazzkutya> Kunalagon: i guess you should follow what ubottu sait about setting the mixer device in the mixer
[14:53] <remoteCTRL> damned this freakin gnome panel is comletely bogus!!!
[14:53] <methodmarvel> thanks kuna - I wish I didn't though :(
[14:55] <Sp0t> Hello all
[14:55] <simard> how do I setup ubuntu to boot into command line instead of graphical mode ?
[14:56] <jimqode> simard, remove the gdm symlink from  /etc/init.d/rc5.d
[14:56] <fyrestrtr> simard: install bum and then remove gdm from the startup scripts
[14:56] <fyrestrtr> simard: bum = bootup manager
[14:57] <rascal999> i'm trying to install linux but i don't have floppy, cd drive or usb stick, how can I do it?
[14:57] <jazzkutya> hmm... btw what happened to /etc/inittab in ubuntu?
[14:57] <simard> jimqode, fyrestrtr, thank you
[14:57] <jimqode> rascal999, you can install by network booting if you have a spare computer with linux on it.
[14:58] <jimqode> rascal999, is it a laptop?
[14:58] <jimqode> simard, no prob! have fun!
[14:58] <deanm> rascal999: install over network
[14:58] <Sylphid> I have tk8.5 installed to fill the xchat dependancy for tk8.4 but it shows xchat as a broken package without tk8.4 installed ... how can I fix this without installing tk8,4 (it breaks some scripts)
[14:58] <rascal999> its a computer
[14:58] <jazzkutya> or from hard drive... my favourite :)
[14:58] <rascal999> deanm: no other computers
[14:58] <Guest3821> anybody here?
[14:59] <remoteCTRL> can anyone tell me how i can move the items in the gnome panel please?
[14:59] <mahidhar_> what shuld i install to play video cd
[14:59] <jimqode> rascal999, if it's a desktop your easiest option is to get a cdrom from a friend
[14:59] <fredthemonkey1> hello. i am trying to run a program but it says:  error while loading shared libraries: libclanApp-0.8.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory . I know that this file is in /usr/local/lib (whereis says that). how can i make the program find it?
[14:59] <jazzkutya> remoteCTRL: right click on the item, "move"
[14:59] <rascal999> jimqode: i have ubuntu install cd in drive, but windows doesn't pick it up
[15:00] <jazzkutya> rascal999: you have to set the bios to boot from the cdrom
[15:00] <jimqode> rascal999, you should boot from the cd. set your bios to boot from cd-rom drive first
[15:00] <remoteCTRL> jazzkutya: oh my gaaawd i thank you so much :D
[15:01] <rascal999> jazzkutya: I have
[15:01] <mahidhar> how 2 play .exe viedo files ....... i m not getting it
[15:01] <jazzkutya> how old is your computer?
[15:01] <rascal999> 400
[15:01] <rascal999> 5-8
[15:01] <TiredWolf> mahidhar: ...?!
[15:01] <SP0t> anybody who owns a HP DV9000 laptop and got the cam to work?
[15:02] <mahidhar> TiredWolf, i m not able 2 play a movie cd
[15:02] <jimqode> SP0t, could you do a lspci and pastebin it?
[15:02] <TiredWolf> carrot is what happen when you let your car under the moisture without using it for too long
[15:02] <jimqode> !pastebin SP0t
[15:02] <TiredWolf> whops, that was for -ot
[15:02] <jazzkutya> rascal999: ahh it's hard to remember those times... it is possible that back then they were problems with booting from cdrom
[15:02] <jimqode> !paste SP0t
[15:02] <jazzkutya> there
[15:02] <jimqode> !paste >SP0t
[15:02] <TiredWolf> mahidhar: a .exe is normally a Windows program, and also, i've never seen a video in an .exe before
[15:02] <rascal999> jimqode: ok, thanks anyway
[15:03] <fredthemonkey1> tiredwolf: try wine?
[15:03] <mahidhar> TiredWolf,  its a video cd .exe plays withroxio in xp
[15:03] <bopferman> I am trying to install Intrepid Alpha 3 in a VM and it keeps failing.  Has anyone had success with that yet?
[15:03] <TiredWolf> fredthemonkey1: perhaps, yet somehow i woulnd't trust a "movie" in an .exe, even in wine... those if it's a CD, i guess...
[15:03] <luke_> i wonder wha tis wrong with kde settings the icons look massive and crazy
[15:04] <TiredWolf> !intrepid | bopferman
[15:04] <fredthemonkey1> TiredWolf: well theres not much that can happen under wine :D
[15:04] <TiredWolf> fredthemonkey1: it can if you drive
[15:04] <fredthemonkey1> lol
[15:05] <remoteCTRL> jazzkutya: the only thing that i still cant seem to move are separators
[15:06] <selocol> how do i copy and paste without a middle click mouse?
[15:06] <TiredWolf> selocol: most programs allow ctrl+c and ctrl+v
[15:07] <selocol> hello, im using irssi in urxvt in fluxbox. how do i copy and paste? tiredwolf
[15:07] <jazzkutya> remoteCTRL: you have to turn off "lock to panel" before and turn back on afterwards
[15:07] <InsomniaCity`> Hi! I've brought up an alias to eth0 with a different IP/mask etc, but is there any way I can automaically write that to /etc/network/interfaces ?
[15:07] <erUSUL> selocol: press right and left button at once
[15:07] <TiredWolf> selocol: or you can also set up X to use a both-buttons press to emulate middle
[15:07] <hugleo> Hello
[15:07] <Abed> can we help u hugleo
[15:07] <jimqode> selocol, select what you want to copy by dragging mouse. then click middle button to paste
[15:08] <jimqode> selocol, if you don't have a middle button you can click with both buttons simultanously
[15:08] <jazzkutya> selocol: pressing the 2 buttons at the same time should do a paste, but maybe it has to be set up in xorg.conf
[15:08] <TiredWolf> selocol: you can set up middle button emulation using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, although your terminal probably allows other shortcuts as well, but i don't use it
[15:08] <jazzkutya> :)
[15:08] <remoteCTRL> jazzkutya: i did and for all components, yt still i cant move that
[15:09] <selocol> jimqode, jazzkutya: i selected the text but pressing both buttons (left and right button on laptop) doesn't paste it
[15:09] <hugleo> When I press Alt + Ctrl + Fx to in a virtual terminal if I hearing a sound in x mode I stop hearing
[15:11] <fredthemonkey1> i am trying to run a program but it says:  error while loading shared libraries: libclanApp-0.8.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory . I know that this file is in /usr/local/lib (whereis says that). how can i make the program find it? <---- may any1 help me with that?
[15:11] <ph8> hi all, when i load file.php into gedit it doesn't recognise it as PHP; I have to turn the syntax highlighting on manually - does anyone know how to fix this?
[15:11] <needhelpwithmusi> hi
[15:11] <needhelpwithmusi> need help
[15:11] <needhelpwithmusi> with my sound
[15:11] <selocol> !ask | needhelpwithmusi
[15:11] <ph8> fredthemonkey1:  It's probably lookin gin /usr/lib - you should ask yourself how it got into /usr/local/lib in the first place
[15:11] <w8tah> ive got a small python script -- for conky -- pymetar -- not sure how to make it work
[15:11] <ph8> fredthemonkey1:  Creating a symlink between /usr/lib/libclanApp-0.8.so.1 and local/lib might fix it
[15:11] <hugleo> fredthemonkey1, locate program_name
[15:11] <fredthemonkey1> i compiled it myself
[15:12] <fredthemonkey1> thats why it is in usr/local/lib
[15:12] <ph8> to be consistent it's best to use at least --prefix=/usr and usually --sysconfdir=/etc i think
[15:12] <remoteCTRL> what software do i need i order to use screenlets?
[15:12] <HarpyFiend> i'm being attacked by raptors!!!
[15:12] <HarpyFiend> please help me
[15:12] <needhelpwithmusi> my sound is not working on my ubuntu, i have tried many different fixes, including installing pulseaudio
[15:12] <jimqode> !offtopic | HarpyFiend
[15:13] <HarpyFiend> jimqode im serious. i have no other resource
[15:13] <HarpyFiend> what should i do?
[15:13] <fredthemonkey1> ph8: you mean when i compile libclan?
[15:13] <HarpyFiend> please help me
[15:13] <HarpyFiend> it's serious
[15:13] <needhelpwithmusi> can someone help
[15:13] <HarpyFiend> i'm gonna die
[15:13] <Abed> yeah HarpyFiend
[15:13] <remoteCTRL> funny guy *rolleyes*
[15:13] <jimqode> HarpyFiend, please don't flood the channel with offtopic conversation
[15:13] <hugleo> remoteCTRL, screenlets, :)
[15:14] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: what soundcard do you have?
[15:14] <bazhang> HarpyFiend, not here
[15:14] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz, how can i check
[15:14] <remoteCTRL> hugleo: uh, thanx:D
[15:14] <needhelpwithmusi> it is built into my motherload
[15:14] <HarpyFiend> oh DAMN
[15:15] <HarpyFiend> they're on the last door
[15:15] <hugleo> HarpyFiend, stop
[15:15] <m0u5e> is there an ubuntu equivalent of windows' sfc /scannow?
[15:15] <coz_> anyone here real familiar with working with pastebinit?
[15:15] <jimqode> m0u5e, what does it do?
[15:15] <m0u5e> or, like an internal package integrity check function?
[15:15] <m0u5e> not fsck
[15:15] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz, anythiung?
[15:16] <m0u5e> anyone know?
[15:16] <XiXaQ> I downloaded and installed that software that the jazz****-person referred to, and now my vista system almost doesn't work at all. :(
[15:16] <m0u5e> XiXaQ: what did he ask you to install?
[15:16] <Abed> m0u5e scan now?
[15:16] <bazhang> !equivalents | m0u5e
[15:16] <rexus> hi guys, why in ubuntu 8.04.1, in /etc/hosts file, I have <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[15:17] <XiXaQ> jazzkutya, there you are. :)
[15:17] <rexus> !hosts
[15:17] <XiXaQ> m0u5e, ISO Recorder.
[15:17] <rexus> !/etc/hosts
[15:17] <keios> Need some help installing IBM Websphere on Hardy - anyone?
[15:18] <jazzkutya> XiXaQ: it workd for me on xp and there is something on the site about windows versions
[15:18] <m0u5e> XiXaQ: what wer eyou planning on doing? burning an ubuntu image?
[15:18] <m0u5e> XiXaQ: if that was your plan, i recommend imgBurn, much less painless, straightforward, and easy to use
[15:18] <XiXaQ> m0u5e, yes. I'm trying to get ridd og vista.
[15:18] <m0u5e> Abed: its a windows system file integrity check
[15:18] <XiXaQ> m0u5e, do you have a url for it?
[15:19] <guoyang> ubottu: very useful
[15:19] <m0u5e> XiXaQ: http://www.imgburn.com/ (google is your friend)
[15:19] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: could you paste the output of lspci on http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[15:20] <m0u5e> well, im not sure what happened (where in the logs would i find reveleant information) but my entire gutsy just turned black, and wouldn't restart X
[15:20] <m0u5e> err not gutsy, hardy sorry
[15:20] <needhelpwithmusi> 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[15:20] <needhelpwithmusi>  that is my sound card
[15:20] <rexus> hi guys, why in ubuntu 8.04.1, in /etc/hosts file, I have <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[15:20] <m0u5e> i could still access ctrl+f1, and the system was responsive, but everything just died or something
[15:20] <Stavroulis> hallo pals. i'd like to know if DELL INSPIRON 1525 notebook (windows vista version) is ubuntu-compatible. HARDWARE = CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T7250 2.0GHz,2MB L2 cache,667MHz FSB - Monitor: 15.4'' WXGA TrueLife - RAM:  2048MB DDRII - HDD: 250GB - GPU: SHARED 128MB (i think so)
[15:20] <hugleo> rexus, aapche
[15:20] <erik_> Stavroulis, yes
[15:20] <bazhang> Stavroulis, what wireless chipset
[15:21] <m0u5e> Stravroulis: try a live cd :)
[15:21] <kristian1> Hi there, what ports should be open in Shorewall, when using postfix?
[15:21] <rexus> hugleo? is that because of Apache?
[15:21] <Stavroulis> m0u5e: I haven't bought it yet
[15:22] <m0u5e> Stavroulis: call and ask dell? they probably know better
[15:22] <needhelpwithmusi> jazzkutya, i found out my sound card
[15:22] <m0u5e> Stavroulis: or check their webpage to see if its "ubuntu certified / compatible", and check if other users have positive experiences with the model
[15:22] <hugleo> rexus, Here apache build <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:22] <hugleo> rexus, stop apache and look if it's work
[15:23] <hugleo> *aapche server
[15:23] <m0u5e> Stavroulis: as a general rule, the only compatibility issues you'll probably run into are your ethernet/wireless, gpu, and extraneous miscellaneous stuff
[15:23] <rexus> ow.. then if my network IP is <IP_ADDRESS> , and some one from the same network want to access my computer how can I refer them to <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[15:24] <XiXaQ> rexus, ips starting with 127 are local to the computer. It means "this computer".
[15:24] <Stavroulis> m0u5e, okay pal ;)
[15:24] <m0u5e> Stavroulis: have fun :)
[15:24] <amenado> rexus-> <IP_ADDRESS> is localhost only..on each machine
[15:24] <XiXaQ> rexus, that is, if you ask someone else to connect to your <IP_ADDRESS>, then you're really asking them to connect to their own computer.
[15:24] <m0u5e> rexus: are they trying to ssh in? or access shares?
[15:25] <needhelpwithmusi> hello everyone, i have no sound on my box. however, on my vista booted side, sound is working fine
[15:25] <rexus> no no XiXaQ, not like that...
[15:25] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: ls -l /proc/asound
[15:25] <amenado> rexus-> the <IP_ADDRESS> is a new fangled thing that ubuntud did, and not reachable from another host
[15:25] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: use paste.ubuntu.com please
[15:25] <hugleo> rexus, It's like <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:25] <rexus> I configured virtual hosts
[15:25] <needhelpwithmusi> total 0
[15:25] <needhelpwithmusi> dr-xr-xr-x 6 root root 0 2008-07-27 10:25 card0
[15:25] <needhelpwithmusi> dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2008-07-27 10:25 card1
[15:25] <needhelpwithmusi> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2008-07-27 10:25 cards
[15:25] <needhelpwithmusi> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2008-07-27 10:25 devices
[15:25] <needhelpwithmusi> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2008-07-27 10:25 hwdep
[15:25] <m0u5e> needhelpwithmusi: have you checked your pcm levels? anything muted, etc?
[15:25] <FloodBot3> needhelpwithmusi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:25] <needhelpwithmusi> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2008-07-27 10:25 modules
[15:25] <rexus> in the other computer, I set their /etc/hosts so when they type www.testproject.wii , they will see my page
[15:25] <bazhang> needhelpwithmusi, paste.ubuntu.com not here
[15:25] <m0u5e> __6;
[15:26] <m0u5e> its too late, he got banned lol
[15:26] <rexus> the same page as the local one...
[15:27] <m0u5e> does dell have an "official" irc channel?
[15:27] <XiXaQ> rexus, http://<IP_ADDRESS> <-- All users that opens that url will be pointed to their own computer.
[15:27] <m0u5e> or an ubuntu "dell" channel?
[15:27] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz, i posted
[15:27] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: after posting you should have got a link, copy that here
[15:28] <hugleo> rexus, I you want other machine access you must use lan address
[15:28] <hugleo> rexus, 192.168.x.x
[15:28] <raziel_> hello everyone
[15:28] <m0u5e> so does anyone know if there is a way to check package integrity?
[15:28] <rexus> ok ok hugleo, wait wait
[15:28] <rexus> let me explain
[15:28] <rexus> I know exactly what you mean...
[15:29] <rexus> I have 2 computers, compu A and compu B
[15:29] <dfgas> any idea why my printers don't show up under samba?
[15:29] <needhelpwithmusi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/30924/
[15:29] <rexus> compu A IP is <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:29] <rexus> compu B IP is <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:29] <rexus> in compu A I installed Apache
[15:29] <needhelpwithmusi> mouse, i don't anything muted
[15:29] <rexus> with virtual host named with www.testproject.wii
[15:29] <m0u5e> like.. hashes generated for executable binary blobs and libraries based on ubuntu's repos, that can be used for repairing corrupted installs?
[15:30] <amenado> rexus-> are you trying to create a cluster?
[15:30] <Typhon> How can I disable some of the Window shortcuts? I am using blender and I cant use some of the features.
[15:30] <rexus> in compu B I setup the /etc/hosts  like <IP_ADDRESS>   www.testproject.wii
[15:30] <m0u5e> Typhon :(, i wish i knew the answer to that
[15:30] <amenado> rexus it is not a wise idea to have two devices in same network to have same addresses
[15:30] <rexus> no amenado, I'm not creating a cluster
[15:30] <m0u5e> Typon: i wish applications just overrode global settings when focused
[15:30] <unavailable> still having a problem with three of my screenlets not autostarting at login
[15:31] <m0u5e> Typhon: *
[15:31] <rexus> amenado, I don't use same address in the same network
[15:31] <rexus> that is my etc/hosts file
[15:31] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: ok, now again with paste.ubuntu.com: sudo lsmod|fgrep snd_
[15:32] <m0u5e> unavailable: did you set them to "autostart at bootup" ?
[15:32] <unavailable> yep
[15:32] <unavailable> sure did, but they dont
[15:32] <hugleo> rexus, What are you do?
[15:32] <m0u5e> unavailabe: i assume your on hardy?
[15:32] <needhelpwithmusi> jazzkutya: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30926/
[15:32] <rexus> hugleo, did you get what I mean?
[15:33] <unavailable> m0u5e:  also i have eight total running right now, but only four show up in sessions
[15:33] <Typhon> m0u5e: I think I found a solution: open terminal and type "gconf-editor", enter apps/metacity/general and modify "mouse_button_modifier" prop
[15:33] <m0u5e> unavailabe: in my experience, sometimes screenlets breaks, just re-activate the screenlet to fix the problem
[15:33] <unavailable> m0u5e:  tried many times
[15:33] <m0u5e> Typhon: thats kinda a lengthy solution though? :X
[15:33] <unavailable> m0u5e:  didnt work
[15:33] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: do you have a speaker connected to your pc with an usb cable?
[15:33] <m0u5e> unavailabe: try reinstalling screenlets? sudo apt-get --purge remove screenlets
[15:34] <m0u5e> Typhon: you would have to change it back after your done using the program though right?
[15:34] <needhelpwithmusi> i used to have headphones that were usb
[15:34] <jazzkutya> it seems it is still plugged in
[15:34] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz: however, now i am using normal headphones
[15:34] <unavailable> m0u5e:   also, these show up in sessions :   digiclock, myip, ringsensors, and windowslist         these dont but are running     mainmenu, volumecontrol, trash
[15:34] <m0u5e> Typhon: i think a smarter way would just for applications to override global shortcut settings by default, while in the application
[15:34] <bazhang> m0u5e, typhon quit
[15:35] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz: so how can we unplug it?
[15:35] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: just pull the plug :)
[15:35] <hugleo> rexus, yes:  www.testproject.wii, redirect to machine <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:35] <m0u5e> unavailabe: make sure you've configured the screenlets correctly, are they stickied, widgets, etc... if you're using compiz, try pressing f9 to see if they show up
[15:35] <m0u5e> bazhang: -___-;
[15:35] <jazzkutya> but maybe it is enough to set up sounds in system/preferences/sound
[15:35] <jflower> hello, any chance someone can help me with desktop effects on a GeForce FX 5500?
[15:35] <m0u5e> unavailable: they'll disappear until you press f9 if your compiz widget layer plugin is enabled
[15:36] <rexus> hugleo, correct
[15:36] <unavailable> m0u5e:  i have none of them set as widgit
[15:36] <icewaterman> hi, any idea how i can debug suspend-to-disk not working (suspend-to-ram works just fine)
[15:36] <rexus> hugleo and it is happening in Compu B
[15:36] <unavailable> m0u5e:   none at all, even the ones that do autostart
[15:36] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz: i have all features to pulseaudio sound server
[15:36] <icewaterman> or it is more like resume does crash the box, but it starts resuming (just is unsuccessful)
[15:36] <m0u5e> jflower: just go ahead and ask, if no one knows here, try compiz-fusion (if its compiz effects your asking about) :)
[15:37] <m0u5e> unavailabe: have you tried reinstalling?
[15:37] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: i'd better use plain alsa insted, i don't know pulseaudio buy maybe someone else can help you
[15:37] <m0u5e> unavailable: try reinstalling, and deleting wherever the screenlet config files are stored, that way you have a clean install and no old config files
[15:37] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: but if the headphones are still plugged in you should check if it has any sound
[15:37] <needhelpwithmusi> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback. Device is being used by another application.
[15:37] <unavailable> m0u5e:  and widgit layer is not running     and yes i have reinstalled many times as well
[15:37] <rexus> hugleo, read this http://paste.ubuntu.com/30928/
[15:37] <m0u5e> jazzkutya: pulse was supposed to be a fix for our audio problems... i dont think it did much :/
[15:38] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz: my headphones work when i log in to Vista
[15:38] <unavailable> m0u5e:  i even purged twice
[15:38] <jazzkutya> m0u5e: i stick to alsa dmix (when not using sblive with hardware mixing), my new machine is strong enough for this
[15:38] <jflower> I'm after nVIDIA drivers that'll allow me to enable "Desktop Effects" under System -> Appearance. I've tried the ones which Ubuntu and EnvyNG download for me, but they don't seem to function correctly since they cause the desktop colours to be wrong, and result in screen resolutions which I can't change.
[15:39] <chi_> hi hu jo, HEADSET in WINE ??????? possible task?
[15:39] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: i see pulseaudio keeps it used. change back to pulseaudio, and ask another question about configuring pulseuadio to use the correct card
[15:39] <kthyonmachine> hola
[15:39] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30929/
[15:39] <m0u5e> unavailable: check ~/.screenlets
[15:40] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: you will have to log out and log back in or maybe full restart
[15:40] <kthyonmachine> nesesito saber como instalo c++ en mi ubuntu
[15:40] <m0u5e> unavailabe: or wherever the config files are... they may be interfering with your new install
[15:40] <unavailable> m0u5e:   for??
[15:40] <m0u5e> unavilabe: also sudo apt-get clean, so that you purge your old downloaded deb packages
[15:40] <kthyonmachine> i dont speack in english
[15:40] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz: will do now
[15:40] <needhelpwithmusi> be right back
[15:40] <m0u5e> unavailable: you could be installing a corrupt package multiple times
[15:40] <kthyonmachine> only speack spanish
[15:40] <bazhang> kthyonmachine, what language is your native language
[15:40] <bazhang> !es | kthyonmachine
[15:41] <kthyonmachine> i speack in english
[15:41] <m0u5e> unavailable: sorry thats all I know :(, keep asking around, hopefully someone who knows more about screenlets can help you if that doesn'tw ork
[15:41] <unavailable> m0u5e:  im installing 0.1.2-1 hardy1
[15:41] <kthyonmachine> help me  install to c++ in ubuntu 8.04
[15:42] <kthyonmachine> i program in c++
[15:42] <kthyonmachine> please
[15:42] <Gillpy> kthyonmachine: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:42] <jazzkutya> kthakore: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/programming/C/build-essential.html
[15:42] <elexodus> HELP! Root protection is locking me out of my largest drive partician!
[15:42] <kthyonmachine> ya lo hice
[15:42] <unavailable> !enter | kthyonmachine
[15:42] <chi_> g++ is not installed ?
[15:42] <chi_> install build-essentials then ?
[15:43] <m0u5e> unavailable: is that a hardy-proposed package?
[15:43] <kthyonmachine> i install
[15:43] <Jaymac> kthyonmachine: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:43] <davidschles> I have a question about ubuntu partitioning if someone can help?
[15:43] <elexodus> Root protection is locking me out of my largest drive partician! All my movies and pr0n are being locked up!
[15:43] <elexodus> please help!
[15:43] <unavailable> m0u5e:  backport but thats an update because the others do the same
[15:44] <Gillpy> !repeat > elexodus
[15:44] <unavailable> m0u5e:  then i clean installed
[15:44] <kthyonmachine> Already I did it
[15:44] <kthyonmachine> i dont install
[15:44] <Gillpy> kthyonmachine: what is your problem ?
[15:44] <kthyonmachine> no istall the pagkage
[15:45] <m0u5e> unavailable: huh -_-;
[15:45] <Jaymac> kthyonmachine: you are not making much sense, perhaps it would be better to ask the question in #ubuntu-es in Spanish?
[15:45] <unavailable> m0u5e:  ok
[15:45] <salil> Hello , when i typed in the terminal : sudo apt-get install build-essential , the ubuntu ask for the installation cd , does it possible to install this package without the cd ?
[15:45] <unavailable> m0u5e:  i installed the one in the repos, it didnt work right, so i updated to the backport
[15:46] <bazhang> salil, remove cd from repo list
[15:46] <unavailable> m0u5e:  when that didnt work right either, i purged then reinstalled from the backport
[15:46] <darkcrab> ive installed ubuntu hardy several times on my laptop off and on with the same disk, and recently when installing this time it didnt give me an option to resize the windows partition even though their was one. Any reason for this?
[15:46] <Jaymac> salil System > Administration > Software Sources and uncheck the CD box
[15:46] <darkcrab> there was only two options: use entire disk space or use largest space
[15:46] <needhelpwithmusi> i am back
[15:46] <m0u5e> unavailable: thats weird... sorry, i'm not sure what could be wrong :(, maybe check under sessions and see if the widgets that are supposed to be autostarting are enabled?
[15:46] <unavailable> darkcrab there was no manual??
[15:46] <elexodus> I need help taking Root ownership off of a drive partician to be used as an FTP. Anybody?
[15:46] <Dmole> anyone ever made ubuntu act like a WAP?
[15:47] <unavailable> m0u5e:  thats the thing, they show up in startup, but when running they dont show up in the current session
[15:47] <darkcrab> there was manual, but normally there was an option to resize windows but that was missing.
[15:47] <lesshaste> if I click on the link at http://www.toppy.org.uk/downloads/windows.php which says "Setup program for Topfield PC Utilities, including file transfer and software update tools, for Windows XP and Vista 32bit (More info)" it seems to hang firefox
[15:47] <lesshaste> this is firefox 3 for heron
[15:47] <Gillpy> elexodus: use chown() to change ownership
[15:47] <lesshaste> does anyone else see this?
[15:48] <Dmole> Chillspot like
[15:48] <jazzkutya> m0u5e: btw where is this pulseaudio thing supposed to be configured?
[15:48] <simard> I am running ubuntu 8.04, I am trying to identify which /etc/rc2.d/ link is responsible for startx, any hint ?
[15:48] <kthyonmachine> donde ayuda en español
[15:48] <bazhang> kthyonmachine, /join #ubuntu-es
[15:49] <Gillpy> simard: gdm, kdm ,xdm
[15:49] <needhelpwithmusi> i need help to configure my sound card to pulseaudio
[15:49] <jazzkutya> simard: it's S30gdm
[15:49] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz: thanks for your help
[15:49] <m0u5e> jazzkutya: not sure... maybe check this article? :)
[15:49] <m0u5e> jazzkutya: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[15:49] <simard> jazzkutya, Gillpy ok just found that S30gdm thing
[15:50] <elexodus> Gillpy: I was trying to change ownership using chmod...
[15:50] <z0man> GA
[15:50] <z0man> My mouse is going crazy, I swear it's one of my compiz settings :/  Just don't know which lol
[15:50] <z0man> Every once in a while it randomly moves and clicks on things.
[15:50] <z0man> And the Y stops working
[15:50] <z0man> I go to some 3D mode in compiz to help stop the random mouse movement once in a while.
[15:50] <jazzkutya> z0man: very cheap optical mouses produce glitches like this even on windows
[15:51] <jazzkutya> z0man: oh and if it's a wireless one check the battery
[15:51] <z0man> Thankfully its not wireless.
[15:51] <z0man> My family all has the same mouse, and I am the only with the glitch
[15:51] <z0man> My dad uses vista and doesn't bother him on that :/
[15:52] <z0man> How can I reset compiz configs?
[15:52] <Gillpy> !enter > z0man
[15:52] <jazzkutya> well then sorry i don't know
[15:52] <flawer> hi. my whole ubuntu system is inside a file root.disk on a NTFS disk. Is that a bad thing? =)
[15:52] <jazzkutya> z0man: you can set effects to none and see if it helps, it also resets many settings (i mean after switching back) but not all
[15:52] <z0man> Thx for trying jazzkutya
[15:53] <z0man> I'm going to try and reset by delete the "." hidden folders touch wood that should be fine.
[15:53] <lini1> hello. has anybody runs kvm and usb?
[15:54] <m0u5e> whenever i maximize youtube videos, they are transparent... its not related to my opacity settings, because it still does it when i turn those off... anyone know why?
[15:55] <mahidhar> i m not able 2 watch movies in my sys its is not supporting ".exe"....... what shld i do now
[15:55] <Gillpy> Does anyone know of geolocation software for ubuntu ?
[15:56] <bazhang> mahidhar, exe is not a movie format
[15:56] <amenado> what does a geolocation software do?
[15:56] <elexodus> Ok, so I did this in terminal: "chown -R elexodus /media/sda4" and I still get this: http://i33.tinypic.com/3486haw.png What am I doing wrong?
[15:57] <Gillpy> amenado: it locates ip addresses geographically
[15:57] <ujos> Hello
[15:57] <mahidhar> bazhang,  ya but the player which supports was .exe
[15:57] <m0u5e> nvm fixed it :)
[15:57] <bazhang> mahidhar, install vlc
[15:57] <ujos> Looks like LInux incorectly schedules thread
[15:57] <mahidhar> bazhang, i had vlc but it was not respondind
[15:57] <petersaints> currently what's the best music player for GNOME? Banshee or Exaile?
[15:58] <amenado> Gillpy-> not all have converted to ipv6 yet, so ipv4 (not all) can not accurately be attributed to particular country as far as i know..
[15:58] <HymnToLife> Gillpy: geoip (if country localization is good enough for you)
[15:58] <bazhang> mahidhar, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:58] <mahidhar> bazhang, how 2 install it
[15:58] <chi_> nextone
[15:59] <bazhang> mahidhar, sudo apt-get install packagename
[15:59] <Solaris444> hey guys
[15:59] <flawer> how do I change the storingcapacity for ubuntu if it's installed located in a disk file?
[15:59] <Solaris444> anyone have experience getting mobile devices to sync to their linux desktop?
[15:59] <mahidhar> bazhang, k f9 i ll try now
[15:59] <amenado> flawer-> add more hard disk?
[15:59] <bazhang> flawer, this is wubi?
[15:59] <zvacet> mahidhar : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:59] <chi_> Solaris444:  I HATE SONY for THISone
[16:00] <mahidhar> zvacet, k i ll try
[16:00] <Gillpy> elexodus: Are you sure the partition is mounted with rw permissions ?
[16:00] <z0man|brb> I renamed "/home/user/.config/compiz to compiz-old and thankfully regenerated the basics again :)  If the glitches still appear then I believe you right I have to buy a new mouse.
[16:00] <zvacet> mahidhar : O.K.
[16:00] <bazhang> chi_, do you have a support question? this is a support channel; chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:00] <z0man|brb> oh and no, my parents don't have the same mouse... I ashumed :/
[16:00] <Solaris444> ok, i'm just trying to work out how to use opensync
[16:00] <Solaris444> i can't make heads nor tails of it
[16:01] <refriedbeans> hey guys, for some reason, every time i want to play a .MP4 video file, Ubuntu either freezes or logs me off
[16:01] <jazzkutya> z0man: it would be enought to set visual effects to none
[16:01] <chi_> bazhang:  just had a question times ago, just helped 2 ppl meanwhile
[16:01] <flawer> I installed ubuntu from windows
[16:01] <refriedbeans> i'm not sure why .MP4's have an affect on Ubuntu
[16:01] <elexodus> Gillpy: yes, I can read from it, just not write to it without doing "sudo nautilus" in terminal. Here's what the terminal is spitting out: http://i34.tinypic.com/2pzdxzk.png
[16:02] <bazhang> flawer, have you read the wubi faq on how to do that?
[16:02] <Awsoonn> when a file in directory X is  updated, I want to run scrit foo; Is there a simple way to do this?
[16:02] <mahidhar> zvacet, i m download it ....... now i have 2 install it again
[16:02] <z0man|brb> Think I'm knowing it is reset totally, which it has.  Having a new batch of healthy settings anyway :)  I've toyed with Compiz-settings soo much :P
[16:03] <rossell> ola
[16:03] <mahidhar> bazhang, after the installing what shld i do
[16:03] <unop> elexodus, what does this output?   mount | grep -i sda4
[16:03] <whileimhere> Any suggestions on a compression program that allows for all formats and really does a great job?
[16:03] <AzizLight|away> hi everybody
[16:03] <zvacet> mahidhar : it suposed to be downloaded and installed without your intervention
[16:03] <jazzkutya> z0man|brb: me too, my windows can stick in a state shivering forever :)
[16:04] <Gillpy> HymnToLife: thanks,
[16:04] <z0man|brb> I still love compiz ^^
[16:04] <mahidhar> zvacet, kk
[16:04] <refriedbeans> hey guys, for some reason, every time i want to play a .MP4 video file, Ubuntu either freezes or logs me off
[16:04] <AzizLight|away> I just installed cplay and everytime I try to play a file I get the message "Player Not Found!", how can I make it work please?
[16:04] <mahidhar> zvacet, tnks
[16:04] <elexodus> Gillpy:
[16:04] <elexodus> /dev/sda4 on /media/HappyTrees type vfat (rw)
[16:04] <elexodus> /dev/sda4 on /media/sda4 type vfat (rw)
[16:04] <zvacet> mahidhar :  :)
[16:05] <lucky711x> Im trying to remove comments out of some source code using sed and its only comments that are # or ## and only one line a piece...i cant figure this out some one please help
[16:05] <jazzkutya> elexodus: you should mount it with -o uid=1000 but i don't know hot to do it with ubuntu's automounting stuff
[16:05] <Aaron_Mason> hey all, trying to get audacity working, it has been installed and I can import an audio file, but when i hit play, I can't hear any sound
[16:05] <z0man|brb> Thanks for bring up the idea about cheap Opt -mouses.... Despite resetting my compiz settings it still happened again, so I'll check another OS before buying a new one lol
[16:06] <bazhang> Aaron_Mason, audacity the editor or audacious the player
[16:06] <unop> elexodus, you cannot change permissions and ownership of files on a FAT partition :)
[16:06] <Aaron_Mason> editor
[16:06] <amenado> lucky711x-> try   s/#*//g
[16:06] <zvacet> lucky711x : system>admin>software repositories>check source
[16:06] <z0man|brb> thx <jazzkutya>  : I'm gona do my final test and then blog my findings :P
[16:06] <unop> elexodus, if you find you cannot write to files on this partition - see the mount manpage
[16:06] <elexodus> jazzkytya: What would be the command in terminal? "sudo mount -o uid=1000 /dev/sda4 /media/HappyTrees"?
[16:07] <ttye0> Is there any reason why after a kernel upgrade all of my snd_* modules don't exist? I'm used to building a kernel from scratch, but I'd like to get my sound back the Ubuntu-way ;)
[16:07] <jazzkutya> elexodus: first you have to unmount it: umount /dev/sda4
[16:07] <elexodus> unop: that would explain a lot.
[16:07] <m0u5e> why oh why is youtube considered a (type=DropdownMenu)
[16:07] <m0u5e> is there a way to specify a % opacity with (type=DropdownMenu) while !youtube
[16:07] <jazzkutya> elexodus: then mount /dev/sda4 /media/sda4 -t vfat -o uid=1000
[16:07] <unop> amenado, lucky711x - s/^[[:space:]]*#+//g  # so as not to remove stuff that would occur somewhere except at the begining of a line
[16:07] <jazzkutya> but i don't know of ubuntu will allow this
[16:08] <lucky711x> amenado, that just removed #'s not the comments that followed
[16:08] <unop> lucky711x - s/^[[:space:]]*#+.*//g
[16:08] <Aaron_Mason> s/#.*//g
[16:08] <elexodus> jazzkytya: hold up, just a second
[16:09] <jazzkutya> elexodus: and using sudo, of course
[16:09] <amenado> lucky711x-> then Aaron_Mason solution is much better, i misunderstood you
[16:09] <amenado> or unop too
[16:09] <n-iCe> which one is mi microphone http://www.torroella.pastebin.com/m763ccf15
[16:09] <n-iCe> O.o
[16:09] <elexodus> jazzkytya: nope, same permissions, and same error
[16:10] <ttye0> For some reason my sound modules weren't built. I'm using the 2.6.24-19-generic kernel. How can I get my sound modules back without a manual recompiling of the kernel?
[16:10] <jazzkutya> elexodus: the command id tells you your uid. what is it?
[16:10] <unop> elexodus, have you been listening to me? you cannot do what you want to do with a FAT filesystem
[16:10] <lucky711x> Aaron_Mason, unop amenado same results nothing changed
[16:11] <unop> lucky711x, sed does not change the original files unless you use -i to it  or redirect the output to a new file
[16:11] <lucky711x> this is what im using sed 's/#.*//g' <file>
[16:11] <unop> lucky711x, sed -i 's/^#.*//g' <file>
[16:11] <amenado> lucky711x-> add -n  to not print as default
[16:11] <elexodus> unop: I heard, I'm just trying anyway.
[16:11] <unop> elexodus, that's silly
[16:11] <lucky711x> wow i feel dumb
[16:12] <unop> lucky711x, don't forget the ^ otherwise it will remove everything after a # on any line
[16:12] <n-iCe> which one is mi microphone http://www.torroella.pastebin.com/m763ccf15
[16:12] <jazzkutya> unop: why is it not possible?
[16:12] <lucky711x> i used sed 's/#.*//g' <file> > <newfile> and it worked like a charm
[16:12] <unop> jazzkutya, FAT does not support these operations
[16:12] <elexodus> jazzkytya: right now I am "uid=0(root)"
[16:12] <unop> lucky711x,  errm no
[16:13] <lucky711x> unop, thats what i was needing
[16:13] <jazzkutya> unop: yes but you can mount it in a way that everything is owned by the user
[16:13] <unop> lucky711x,  that might have taken off more than you wanted
[16:13] <jazzkutya> unop: get out of sudo and then id again
[16:13] <unop> lucky711x, consider this.  echo -e "foo\nbar#moo\n#foo" | sed 's/#.*//'
[16:13] <jazzkutya> unop: sorry :)
[16:13] <apo> Hi, anybody got experience with pam_mount? Seems like cron segfaults on jobs for the users that have pam_mount enabled...
[16:13] <jazzkutya> elexodus: get out of sudo and id again
[16:14] <elexodus> jazzkytya: uid=0(root)
[16:14] <elexodus> jazzkytya: oops, I mean uid=1000(elexodus)
[16:14] <jazzkutya> elexodus: outside sudo??? open a new terminal and id there
[16:14] <jazzkutya> oic
[16:15] <elexodus> jazzkytya: yes, uid=1000(elexodus)
[16:15] <jazzkutya> elexodus: unmount the volume by rightclicking on it
[16:15] <Aaron_Mason> unop, that seemed to work fine as well
[16:15] <elexodus> jazzkytya: not an option
[16:15] <jazzkutya> and then try sudo mkdir /mnt/sda4;sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/sda4 -t vfat -o rw,uid=1000
[16:16] <mnereson> Hello. I have a daily cron job that is shutting down my box, not sure which job. Can I put a statement in the crons to output something to the syslog? what do I use to ouput to syslog?
[16:16] <unop> Aaron_Mason, if you use s/#.*//  as opposed to s/^#.*//  - everything after # on ever line no matter where # is is removed .. not just comments
[16:16] <jazzkutya> elexodus: is /dev/sda4 in you /etc/fstab?
[16:16] <goldengold> Hai...
[16:17] <goldengold> Can anyone reccommend a free good e-book on configuring and starting Ubuntu?
[16:17] <Aaron_Mason> unop, you're thinking /#.*/d
[16:17] <Aaron_Mason> oh
[16:17] <amenado> mnereson-> sudo  crontab -l  to list entries
[16:17] <unop> Aaron_Mason, again, you're note considering #s somewhere down the line
[16:17] <Aaron_Mason> thats usually where comments start
[16:17] <Aaron_Mason> a
[16:17] <Aaron_Mason> i see
[16:18] <Aaron_Mason> like printf('blah blah #bob');
[16:18] <unop> right exactly
 Can anyone reccommend a free good e-book on configuring and starting Ubuntu?
[16:18] <elexodus> jazzkytya:
[16:18] <elexodus> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[16:18] <elexodus> #
[16:19] <elexodus> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[16:19] <jazzkutya> sorry :)
[16:19] <elexodus> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[16:19] <FloodBot3> elexodus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:19] <unop> Aaron_Mason, i suggested this so it takes into consideration spaces at the beginning of a line too.   s/^[[:space:]]*#+.*//g
[16:19] <elexodus> # /dev/sda3
[16:19] <elexodus> UUID=befebd75-3b4d-479d-ba95-a77ffd7e2913 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[16:19] <elexodus> # /dev/sda1
[16:19] <elexodus> UUID=07D8-0110  /media/sda1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[16:19] <elexodus> # /dev/sda2
[16:19] <elexodus> UUID=07D8-0110  /media/sda2     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[16:19] <FloodBot3> elexodus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:19] <elexodus> # /dev/sda4
[16:19] <Aaron_Mason> ah i see
[16:19] <elexodus> UUID=486E-733B  /media/sda4     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[16:19] <elexodus> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0
[16:19] <elexodus> oops... sorry
[16:19] <elexodus> jazzkytya: http://pastebin.ca/1084343
[16:19] <elexodus> jazzkytya: http://pastebin.ca/1084343
[16:19] <elexodus> sorry everyone
[16:21] <schroedinbug> anyone ever see grub report the wrong partition with 'grub> find /boot/grub/stage1' ?
[16:21] <zvacet> goldengold :http://eu.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470082933.html
[16:21] <schroedinbug> like it should report (hd0,4), but reports (hd0,5)?
[16:22] <apo> Never mind, found it... it was indeed pam_mount
[16:22] <zvacet> goldengold :http://search.oreilly.com/?q=ubuntu&submit.x=0&submit.y=0
[16:23] <amenado> schroedinbug-> all the time or one time?
[16:23] <flawer> I installed ubuntu from windows. How do I get rid of it? The uninstall program doesnt work
[16:23] <bazhang> flawer, you tried add/remove?
[16:23] <flawer> yes
[16:23] <flawer> and the uninstall program
[16:24] <flawer> nothing happends
[16:24] <flawer> triend in admin mode
[16:24] <bazhang> flawer, you can still boot into ubuntu or not
[16:24] <Led-Zeppelin> o
[16:24] <flawer> I think I can.. I havent met any uninstallation
[16:24] <mnereson> amenado: thanks. no jobs are listed. I am looking at /etc/cron.daily$ syslog indicates that its one of the 8 jobs in here that are causing the shutdown, but I dunno which one
[16:24] <bazhang> flawer, try and do so
[16:24] <flawer> k
[16:25] <amenado> mnereson-> can you paste some of the lines from your syslog?
[16:25] <schroedinbug> amenado, all the time.
[16:26] <jflower> Hi, I'm after nVIDIA drivers that'll allow me to enable "Desktop Effects" under System -> Appearance. I've tried the ones which Ubuntu and EnvyNG download for me, but they don't seem to function correctly since they cause the desktop colours to be wrong, and result in screen resolutions which I can't change.
[16:26] <amenado> schroedinbug-> are you sure you did not mis-count? can you paste the results of your fdisk -l;  and mount  ?
[16:28] <schroedinbug> amenado, fdisk -l output http://rafb.net/p/wi5iAO50.html
[16:30] <lopin> Hello!  I appear to be having a slight problem resizing a Vista Partition.  It would appear that about midway through rearranging my data, the kernel could no longer read my disk.  I'm in linux now, and the drive appears to be readable, however, the computer refuses to start vista for anything.  I've already run ntfsresize -fi , chkdsk, and bootrec /fixmbr, all with no help.  Can anyone help me out here?
[16:30] <Sp0tter> Are there any pre-made completly auto install Ubuntu Server cd's made?  I've been trying tom ake my own, but ubuntu wont let me create a key over terminal.. so I went to the consoel and it worked but then i got a 'tail error in debian paackager' when i tried to repackage the keyring
[16:30] <Sp0tter> would love it if there was one premade, just need basic auto server install
[16:30] <ManualOverDozer8> lopin how big is the partition that you were making ?
[16:30] <lopin> 80 GB.
[16:31] <amenado> schroedinbug-> yeah, you are right..however, its odd that another flag is enabled to tell the bootloader your /dev/sda5 is bootable?
[16:31] <ManualOverDozer8> lopin: by chance, is that SATA ?
[16:31] <heavensrevenge> hello
[16:31] <lopin> Indeed.
[16:31] <heavensrevenge> i believe i hid my firefox bookmark menu
[16:31] <heavensrevenge> is there an option to "unhide" the firefox bookmark menu??
[16:31] <lopin> Right click on the address bar, and select the bookmark menu.
[16:31] <ManualOverDozer8> lopin: i had same exact issue with XP machine on 500gb HDD, havent yet to find a solution
[16:32] <lopin> Damn...
[16:32] <ManualOverDozer8> i know
[16:32] <heavensrevenge> the menu, not the toolbar
[16:32] <heavensrevenge> the MENU, like the dropdown menu
[16:32] <ManualOverDozer8> lopin: as a test i made a 2gb partition, and it worked just find, somewhere over 20gb it fails badly
[16:32] <hkais> hello, how can I display my keystorkes under linux?
[16:32] <lopin> Okay...  Guess I'm going to have to copy everything to another computer with FTP while I can read the drive, and reinstall everything...  This kinda sucks...
[16:32] <heavensrevenge> the toolbar ok, done and done, but the menu
[16:33] <h00k> lopin, have you tried booting from the Vista DVD and clicking "Startup repair" or something similar?
[16:33] <mnereson> amenado: did you receive my syslog lines? any ideas?
[16:33] <amenado> heavensrevenge-> its probably somewhere in about:config  i've seen it in a tip and tricks of firefox, but offcourse i cant remember which
[16:33] <lopin> Well, I removed the ubuntu drive fine, and have been playing with this partition for a while.  Move data from one into the larger one, then absorb the smaller one.
[16:33] <amenado> mnereson-> nope, use the pastebin please
[16:33] <jazzkutya> hkais: you can use xev if this is what you want
[16:33] <ManualOverDozer8> lopinL i tried multiple partition managers and they all did the same, so, i would assume its and OS issue. if this info helps any
[16:33] <heavensrevenge> ah, thank you,m ill dig around about:config
[16:33] <lopin> h00k, Yes, it said it repaired it, but I still have a lovely blinking cursor on reboot...
[16:34] <lopin> heavensrevenge, Did you hide it with the Del.icio.us add-on?
[16:34] <jazzkutya> heavensrevenge: right click and customize?
[16:34] <chi_> lopin: did you install something on the very first partition after the windows install was made?
[16:34] <jazzkutya> heavensrevenge: with this you can drag the bookmark menu back
[16:34] <heavensrevenge> i might have, it was quick and i barely even saw the word "hide"
[16:34] <ManualOverDozer8> lopin: i even tried a proggy called Spinrite to check the dirve, and the drive shows good
[16:35] <lopin> I'm reading the drive right now.  I'm in an Ubuntu live disk, and all my data is there...
[16:35] <juanma> holas a todos
[16:35] <lopin> It just refuses to boot.
[16:35] <Gnea> lopin: did you backup your data from vista before attempting the resize?
[16:35] <schroedinbug> amenado, would that make a difference though? I agree that it's odd...
[16:36] <schroedinbug> I always seem to run into strange things when helping others with Linux...
[16:36] <lopin> heavensrevenge, There should be a menu option to get it back in the add-on options...  I'm not sure exactly where it is, but it should be in a menu marked for integration or similar...
[16:36] <Petengy> hi to all
[16:36] <mnereson> amenado: http://pastebin.ca/1084351
[16:36] <heavensrevenge> hmm
[16:36] <heavensrevenge> i added a bookmark icon
[16:36] <heavensrevenge> and have a bookmark sidebar
[16:36] <lopin> Gnea...  No, I was a bad little techie...  I've still got most of it on other drives, and I can definitely read the disk right now, so I'll be copying the rest to another computer
[16:36] <heavensrevenge> which shows the menu entry, but it actually isnt added to the top menu
[16:37] <amenado> schroedinbug-> i dont know, but you are coming across it, also perhaps check your  /boot/grub/device.map  to see what the entry is
[16:37] <masteredu> !german
[16:37] <Gnea> lopin: for future reference, you may wish to consider a neat debian-based program/livecd called clonezilla (clonezilla.org)
[16:38] <Gnea> lopin: it works great with ntfs partitions
[16:38] <lopin> Gnea, thanks for the info!  Noted.  ^.^
[16:38] <heavensrevenge> WOHO
[16:38] <heavensrevenge> got it
[16:38] <heavensrevenge> thanks people
[16:38] <elexodus> hey unop...
[16:38] <unop> hey
[16:39] <kane77> what is a good backup program for ubuntu? (I mostly need to back up source files so it would be cool if the program could show me diff between versions)
[16:39] <unop> kane77, svn
[16:39] <amenado> mnereson-> i dont see from your log which one shuts your system down...not from what you pasted so far
[16:40] <kane77> unop, yeah, but the files are already a versioned by svn.. I need something to back up my files between commits
[16:40] <elexodus> unop: you owe jazzkutya an apology.
[16:40] <Petengy> after the last automatic ubuntu system upgrading the wireless connection stops to work properly , somenone have some ideas ?
[16:40] <lopin> Well, thanks for the help guys.  I really appreciate it.
[16:40] <h00k_> lopin, good luck
[16:40] <kane77> unop, plus back up other files as well (system settings etc.)..
[16:40] <mnereson> amenado: thats what I am trying to find out, which job is causing the shutdown. the question was, can I put a statement in each cron job that outputs the name of that job to the syslog? so the next time it shutsdown, i can see the last job that was executed.
[16:40] <amenado> Petengy-> its been reported by many, same experience you just had
[16:41] <unop> elexodus, i do?
[16:41] <elexodus> yup.
[16:41] <lopin> h00k_, Thanks.
[16:41] <amenado> mnereson-> yes, on the script that is run by cron, you can insert  a syslog command
[16:41] <elexodus> unop: he got the permissaions and ownership fixed on the fat32 partician.
[16:41] <Petengy> amenado->  so what I have to do ??