[00:00] <schultza> ok.. so 16-32 would be a good value for anyone else who asks.. thank you
[00:00] <nacc> why make it so large? and why do it at all
[00:00] <nacc> a good value is 0 and don't do it
[00:00] <nacc> there's no clear benefit IMO
[00:01] <schultza> there is... i have an installation of / at 8 GB with /usr combine and i cannot installed any more stuff. and linux is acting a lot slower.
[00:01] <schultza> hence why im asking it
[00:02] <schultza> so i plan on redoing the installation with /usr seperated.
[00:02] <nacc> schultza: how big is your hard drive?
[00:02] <schultza> because  i can
[00:02] <schultza> larger...
[00:02] <nacc> schultza: alright, i guess you can figure this out yourself, i have better things to do with my time, sorry
[00:02] <schultza> nacc: thank you for telling me how much your current /usr size is..
[00:03] <schultza> it did help
[00:14] <scootergrisen> How can i download all translations for one language from launchpad?
[00:15] <Bashing-om> schultza: I have run with as little as 10 gigs for / .. but it is tight and leaves little room for future uses without extensive management .
[00:17] <hfp> Also, I'm confused at what goes in .profile vs .bashrc in Ubuntu. It seems that vars set in .profile aren't accessible in .bashrc, so what good is .profile except to source .bashrc?
[00:20] <schultza> in the non-gui command line mode.. how do you see previous again?
[00:21] <pavlos> schultza, my / is 7GB, /usr is almost 5GB
[00:21] <schultza> getting a kernel panic.. unable to mount root fs
[00:21] <pavlos> schultza, you mena cursor up?
[00:21] <schultza> yes
[00:21] <kenrin> hfp: if you man bash it'll tell ya
[00:22] <schultza> kenrin: canont man anything right now... kernel panic
[00:24] <schultza> https://imagebin.ca/v/3HqwHaWEys2i
[00:24] <pavlos> schultza, at the term prompt, ctrl R will reverse search previous commands
[00:24] <schultza> ctrl+r does nothing at this moment
[00:25] <kenrin> If the kernel is crashed your cursor isn't going to move until you reboot schultza
[00:25] <schultza> reboot goes back to same screen.
[00:26] <kenrin> login to single user mode and check logs
[00:26] <schultza> and i remember correctly that / was out of space.
[00:26] <kenrin> Oh,  then login to single and delete some files
[00:26] <schultza> how is single user mode going to help with unable to mount /
[00:27] <kenrin> Ah,  mean to say recovery shell
[00:30] <schultza> nah, ill redo it anyways... so i have space for /
[00:53] <schultza> !ubuntunext
[00:53] <schultza> !ubuntu+1
[01:07] <nicomachus> hi all. I'm trying to get EAC up and running, but it's not finding the disk drive (or any drives). I followed these instructions and have the drive showing in my wine config, but EAC just isn't seeing it: https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2092214.html
[01:08] <cfhowlett> nicomachus, wine doesn't see the HDD so far as I know. ask the wine channel
[01:08] <nicomachus> I am.
[01:09] <nicomachus> just thought maybe someone here had encountered it before.
[01:09] <nicomachus> I wasn't sure if it was a problem with getting wine to see the cd rom
[01:13] <waltman> When I get a popup saying "The computer needs to restart to finish installing updates", is there any way to see which packages need to be updated?
[01:14] <cfhowlett>  waltman open a terminal:   sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[01:15] <waltman> full-upgrade didn't list any packages
[01:18] <schultza> whats different between dist-upgrade and full-upgrade
[01:18] <cfhowlett> same same schultza.  apt-get dist-upgrade = apt full-upgrade
[01:18] <schultza> ah
[01:19] <waltman> I just tried dist-upgrade too just for the heck of it. Same result.
[01:19] <waltman> So if nothing's pending, why do I keep getting this popup telling me I need to reboot? I also get the "System restart required" message when I ssh in.
[01:20] <schultza> you probably already did the update, it just needs to reboot to use the new update
[01:20] <kenrin> probably already installed a new kernel
[01:20] <cfhowlett> waltman, this ^^^
[01:20] <schultza> or ubuntu has allowed hot-loading the kernel
[01:21] <waltman> The last new kernel was 5 days ago, and it started *after* I rebooted.
[01:21] <ChaiTRex> waltman: There are various other packages that require a reboot. I think libc does for example.
[01:21] <waltman> hmm, could be that.
[01:22] <waltman> I had to reboot twice for new kernels last week, and then I started getting this popup the following day.
[01:27] <kenrin> It might list them in /var/run/reboot-required.pkgs
[01:31] <waltman> kenrin: Thanks! It says "linux-base", but that package doesn't seem to have chanegd recently.
[01:33] <plex_dave> hey hey.  this is an ongoing issue and it's been driving me mad.  every time i format a new usb drive or sd card, it formats as read-only.  I have just been using a windows machine that i have laying around at work to format these devices but there's gotta be something that can be done about this.
[01:35] <fakof> list
[01:35] <fakof> LIST
[01:35] <plex_dave> i legitimately just want to be able to format an sd card or usb device using ntfs (so others can read it too) and not have to run nautilus (or thunar as the case may be) as root to move files to the thing.  this has been the case in 16.04 since I upgraded and it's basically unacceptable.
[01:36] <fakof> hello
[01:36] <fatdudu> hello
[01:36] <cfhowlett> ubuntu support here fakof.   ask your questions
[01:36] <plex_dave> hi.  do we think it's a good idea to be running nautilus or thunar as root just to transfer files to an sd card?
[01:36] <cfhowlett> plex_dave, no no and no
[01:38] <kenrin> you should fix the permissions plex_dave
[01:38] <kenrin> Find out where it mounts,  probably /media/username,  then check perms
[01:38] <plex_dave> Well, I mean, I don't mind having to do it, but even if I run my file manager as root and go in and change permissions on the device in the file manager as root, as soon as I am no longer running as root, the permissions on all devices go back to where even i, the user who created the partitions, cannot write to them.
[01:41] <plex_dave> Kenrin:  I am aware that this is a permissions issue.  This seems like it would be a high priority issue seeing as the novice user would not know to run the file manager as root, and as an intermediate user, I know that it's probably not the best idea to be in the habit
[01:41] <kenrin> Yeah weird,  I just checked getfacl /media/username and it doesn't have write
[01:41] <fakof> how i wrote commands in irc chat ?
[01:42] <ivan> is this a /media/whatever problem or a mount-options problem?
[01:42] <plex_dave> It's not like this is a new issue either.  I was hoping maybe there was some silly thing I was missing out on that I didn't find in the forums.
[01:42] <ivan> NTFS mounts need uid= gid= umask= options
[01:42] <ivan> e.g. mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=007
[01:43] <plex_dave> I have others who work with me who do not have the sudo passwords to their machines and they rightfully think this is a touch absurd.  When I format the cards on any other device, ranging from a digital camera to a zoom digital recorder to a windows box, there is no issue.  Formatting from any type of ubuntu 1604 (vanilla, mate, gnome, studio) all the same exact issue.
[01:44] <cfhowlett> plex_dave, are you formatting with a gui app or the terminal??
[01:44] <ghostreaver310> exit
[01:45] <ivan> if you are in for the long haul on desktop linux you can assume that every nice GUI thing will be broken at some point and you have to know how to do everything manually. but wow, that is some pretty depressing breakage
[01:45] <kenrin> seems like it could be fixed with a simple setfacl -m u:username:rwx /media/username
[01:46] <ivan> kenrin: do you really not have u=w on /media/username?
[01:46] <kenrin> I do not,  seems like that is default
[01:46] <ivan> hmm
[01:47] <kenrin> user has rwx
[01:47] <kenrin> but my username has r-x
[01:47] <kenrin> owned by root
[01:47] <plex_dave> I am using disks
[01:47] <plex_dave> the gui tool included in linux distributions.
[01:48] <cfhowlett> plex_dave, time to test: use the format the disk using the terminal
[01:49] <ivan> kenrin: you don't need w on dir/ to write to dir/sub/
[01:49] <ivan> (because you're not modifying dir/, of course)
[01:49] <plex_dave> Okay, I can do that.  I was just hoping that there's a solution for the more novice user.  I mean if I were new to Ubuntu, this would certainly make me a touch angry.
[01:49] <kenrin> Yeah but /dir/ has no subs
[01:49] <kenrin> until i plug something in
[01:49] <cfhowlett> agreed.  if the terminal flyes OK, then we can indeed report the Disks is malfunctioning, plex_dave
[01:49] <plex_dave> I was in fact able to format an sd card just now in the terminal and I can in fact write to it.  USB also just worked.
[01:50] <ivan> kenrin: well, you still don't need w for your user on /media/username because that's managed by some root thing
[01:50] <ivan> much more likely the disk formatting tool stopped passing in the correct mount options
[01:51] <ivan> does this work when you replug the device?
[01:51] <cfhowlett> plex_dave, boom.  Disks has something funky.  might you be inclined to file a bug report?
[01:51] <plex_dave> It's all over the forums, I assumed it was beknownst to the devs.
[01:54] <waltman> The only thing I see in my logs for the time that reboot-required.pkgs was updated is that I ran "apt autoremove" to remvoe some old kernels. Why would that say I need to reboot?
[02:00] <lysa>  annoying
[02:00] <lysa> ...
[02:00] <tripleb> .
[02:01] <waltman> Oh well. I'm just going to assume that it's because of the autoremove and not reboot just because of that.
[02:07] <DexDeadly> Anyone use ISPConfig 3?  I've tried following the directions but I can't seem to get my admin page to have ssl protection
[02:07] <DexDeadly> my 2 domains I currently have on the box have ssl no problems
[02:08] <DexDeadly> everytime I go to it I get ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR
[02:13] <calamari> hi. I was about speeding up boot times, and one recommendation was to switch from Legacy to UEFI. In the comments, someone mentioned that if UEFI was used, that GRUB was basically redundant. That caught me off guard, because I use that for the very occasional dual boot or recovery mode, but it made me curious: Is there some kind of equivalent functionality I get with UEFI and Ubuntu?
[02:13] <JakeDean> I'm trying to display the php file which I have located in /var/www/error.php and I included that in my config https://hastebin.com/arinifoniz.php but my error.php isn't even shown, it shows the nginx default error
[02:16] <calamari> oh, I think I just found my answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/313627/uefi-bootloader-alternative-to-grub
[02:17] <wagle> hi -- how do i clear-out/purge all dpkg record of a package thats already gone?
[02:30] <Camron> anyone here use cisco RVS equipment
[02:32] <kenrin> ##networking probably better question to ask that
[02:32] <kenrin> place to i mean
[02:40] <chilli0> Hello - I am trying to use NFS to export a directory to two subnets. showmount -e (serverip) shows the mounts, but when I try to mount I get an error denied.This only happens on one of the subnets...
[02:41] <chilli0> both subnets are in /etc/exports - does anyone know where to look? need to find why it's being blocked
[02:41] <chilli0> nothing in hosts.allow or hosts.deny
[02:43] <dp> Is there a way to enable proprietary drivers for my video card in the latest Ubuntu so that I can use my GPU for computing?
[02:43] <kenrin> firewall?  uid|gid not the same ?
[02:45] <wagle> how do you delete half-installed packages?  google is full of failed solutions
[02:50] <quartarian> @Wagle sudo apt purge?
[02:51] <wagle> quartarian: tried that, its wedgd harder than that
[02:51] <quartarian> What package?
[02:51] <wagle> linux-image-extra-4.4.0-66-generic
[02:51] <wagle> i *think*
[02:51] <kenrin> dp: they should show up under additional drivers if you search the menu
[02:52] <wagle> wait.  i mean linux-image-extra-4.4.0-66-generic
[02:52] <dp> kenrin: Okay. I knew that the proprietary drivers had been removed in a previous version, but wasn't sure if they'd been added back. Kills me to have 70% of my computer "unsable."
[02:52]  * wagle is too blind to see that those are the same
[02:53] <quartarian> Hmm. What are the symptoms of the problem? Can't install other packages?
[02:54] <wagle> cant install, remove, purge, nuttin
[02:55] <quartarian> Can you pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update for me?
[02:56] <wagle> https://gist.github.com/wagle/dcad0789a7975ed56caea3759941dbfb is related
[02:57] <bryceml> wagle: is your boot partition full? do 'df -h'
[02:57] <wagle> no it stabilized to something else..  no its nearly empty
[02:58] <bryceml> if that kernel is not the one you are booted into or the latest one, you can just apt-get remove it.
[02:58] <wagle> https://gist.github.com/wagle/33047be5c584f4f14b965f5cdf9c9eae
[02:58] <wagle> is pretty much what i did if i try anything
[02:59] <quartarian> Did you manually remove your kernel headers?
[02:59] <wagle> nope
[02:59] <wagle> it broke halfay through and upgrae
[02:59] <bryceml> is linux-headers-4.4.0-66-generic installed?
[02:59] <wagle> it broke halfway through and upgrafe
[03:00] <quartarian> Ahhh I see
[03:00] <wagle> no
[03:00] <wagle> just 70 and 71
[03:02] <bryceml> you could try downloading the linux-headers-4.4.0-66-generic and install it with dpkg directly and see if it works after that.
[03:02] <quartarian> ^^ just typing that lol
[03:02] <wagle> get the same error when i tried that, but I'll try harder.  you have an incantation in mind?
[03:03] <notmike> No!
[03:05] <quartarian> wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-headers-4.4.0-66-generic_4.4.0-66.87_amd64.deb && dpk --install linux-headers-4.4.0-66-generic_4.4.0-66.87_amd64.deb
[03:05] <quartarian> Fair warning, that could make it worse.
[03:05] <quartarian> dpkg*
[03:05] <wagle> i'm about to reinstall..  8/
[03:08] <wagle> dpkg -i --force-all linux-headers-4.4.0-66-generic_4.4.0-66.87_amd64.deb
[03:08] <wagle> is oing something different, anyway
[03:08] <vas_tappendage> wagle: have you tried using aptitude instead of apt or apt-get
[03:08] <bryceml> If that doesn't work you could edit the dpkg database and make it think the package isn't installed so it doesn't try to do the configuration for it.  That has potentially bad side effects though.
[03:09] <wagle>  vas_tappendage not installed (cant install things at the moment)
[03:11] <wagle> apt -f autoremove
[03:11] <wagle> might be getting somewhere
[03:11] <wagle> its actually installing all the 66 packages
[03:12] <quartarian> Sweet
[03:15] <wagle> nope, but for different reasons now
[03:15] <quartarian> gist?
[03:16] <wagle> https://gist.github.com/wagle/e8738b075c500ad5ed8824c088717630
[03:17] <quartarian> Ahh 3rd party drivers
[03:17] <clackamas> I still cannot decide if I want a XPS 15 or MSI GS63 Stealth.
[03:18] <quartarian> Can you install new packages at this point?
[03:20] <awatt> i am looking for a software or anything that prevent battery of charging when it reaches 100% and start charging when its 10%
[03:22] <poco> awatt, you do realize that full battery cycles are terrible for modern batteries, right?
[03:23] <poco> awatt, ideally for lithium-ion you want to keep your batteries right at ~60% but keeping them at 100%, assuming they are engineered well, is honestly not much of a difference over the coarse of its life
[03:25] <poco> Hey does anyone know what's the best way I can secure my mounted network shares from accidents on my computer (accidental rm, cryptoransom, etc)? Since my shares are all mounted under /mnt/ it seems like they're very convenient, yet vulnerable
[03:25] <awatt> poco: ok how can i stop the battery from being chnarged at 80%
[03:25] <awatt> it is lithiom
[03:26] <wagle> quartarian: nope, and tried a couple things
[03:27] <poco> awatt, I'm not exactly sure but I know a few OEMs like Lenovo will autodetect if a laptop is docked for like a week+ and asks if you want to keep it at 60%. But honestly man, the difference between keeping it at 60% vs 100% is soooo small.
[03:28] <Ben64> the hardware probably already has something that cuts off charging appropriately
[03:28] <quartarian> wagle: sorry man, broken upgrades are tough. If it were me and I had things I needed to do, I'd bite the bullet and reinstall.
[03:29] <poco> Ben64, is exactly right. If it's not designed to do this, well you're not going to optimize a crappy battery like that anayways
[03:29] <wagle> quartarian: yeah, my feeling too
[03:29] <Ben64> or do what i do, if you're going to leave it plugged in for a while, take the battery out
[03:31] <awatt> ben64 .. you know the reason i want to do this i am scared the battery eventually die or loose its capabilites if connected to ac for long time
[03:32] <Ben64> yep i know, it will lose capacity pretty much no matter what you do
[03:33] <awatt> but it will die faster if you are connected to AC all the time
[03:36] <Ben64> so take the battery out
[03:43]  * wagle prepares to punt
[03:59] <vas_tappendage> wagle: if you get back to a solid system, install aptitude. It seems to have some magic powers that apt and apt-get don't.
[04:01] <wagle> yeah..  synaptic's trying to do something special too
[04:02] <clackamas> wagle: were you not able to get your kernel stuff worked out ?
[04:03] <wagle> clackamas: trying to swing synaptic at it before I give up and reinstsall
[04:03] <clackamas> wagle: that sounds like a sensible plan.
[04:12] <devil_> hey
[04:12] <vas_tappendage> wagle: before you give up and do a r+r. try aptitude. I have been through the same stuff. then i tried aptitude and it worked. like I said before, It has some extra heavy duty zircon encrusted tweezers that will make it "all good". install and read the man page, then do a "aptitude extra heavy duty tweezers dist-upgrade" good luck
[04:12] <devil_> anyone here
[04:15] <wagle> vas_tappendage: cant install aptitude, but synaptic's doing something new
[04:26] <wagle> synaptic unglued the logjam, nowI am removing log by log
[04:26] <wagle> got aptitude installed!
[04:29] <clackamas> wagle: cool!
[04:33] <wagle> thanks all!  it seems fixed now
[04:34] <wagle> had to create fake kernel and initrd images after synaptic uncorked it
[04:34] <quartarian> Wagle: Well done!
[04:50] <n00dl3z> hey guys
[04:50] <n00dl3z> who wants to get brute forced today???
[04:51] <ubuntuinstall> any idea on the most popular ubuntu distro?
[04:51] <n00dl3z> Centos
[04:51] <n00dl3z> i run my botnet on centos
[04:51] <n00dl3z> it outputs 200 gb per second
[04:51] <n00dl3z> i can ddos everyone of you right now
[04:52] <n00dl3z> anyone there?
[04:52] <n00dl3z> niggers
[04:52] <n00dl3z> niggers
[04:53] <ubuntuinstall> there seems to be a lot of research on the popular distros but not among ubuntu
[04:54] <ubuntuinstall> Looking for one among ubuntu
[04:54] <ubuntuinstall> any clue?
[04:55] <noodles_port_22> hey
[04:56] <clackamas> ubuntuinstall: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFlavors
[05:11] <allrightyyyyy> eyh :)
[05:12] <allrightyyyyy> im new to ubuntu but i like it :)
[05:13] <swroooo> same here allrightyyy
[05:13] <Guest81784> Glad to hear you like it
[05:15] <allrightyyyyy> eyh venta litt e folk her norske ? :)
[05:16] <nitpe> hi guys, my apple computer has passed away and I'm trying to read the HD contents on ubuntu, I can see the disk and partitions where the partition I'm interested is showing 'Apple Core Storage'
[05:16] <nitpe> how can I mount it on ubuntu ?
[05:18] <clackamas> nitpe:
[05:19] <nitpe> clackamas, hi
[05:19] <clackamas> nitpe: sudo get-apt install hfsprogs
[05:19] <clackamas> You will need the tools from that package.
[05:19] <clackamas> create a mount point:
[05:19] <clackamas> sudo mkdir -p /media/macos
[05:20] <alkisg> Aren't encrypted apple partitions mounted with http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/libfvde ? (no idea about apple though...)
[05:20] <nitpe> I guess the partition is encrypted
[05:20] <clackamas> sudo mkdir sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,ro /dev/sd<XY> /media/macos
[05:20] <clackamas> yeah, then you will need your mac to fix that.
[05:20] <phishinphree> yeah, then you will need your mac to fix that.
[05:21] <clackamas> nitpe: how did your mac die?
[05:21] <phishinphree> nitpe: how did your mac die?
[05:21] <nitpe> I think the graphics card is dead
[05:21] <nitpe> like I can see the apple logo in the booting screen
[05:21] <nitpe> but it does not load the OS
[05:21] <clackamas> you might be able to ssh to it.
[05:21] <phishinphree> you might be able to ssh to it.
[05:22] <clackamas> what is phishinphree?  It is repeating everything I type
[05:22] <alkisg> Seems like a bot...
[05:23] <phishinphree> sorry
[05:23] <nitpe> so
[05:23] <nitpe> the only way seems to put back the hd on mac os
[05:23] <phishinphree> shouldn't be doing that
[05:23] <clackamas> Well, you might be able to get the able store to copy it to an external drive.
[05:23] <nitpe> and then try to recover it somehow
[05:23] <clackamas> But, I have no idea what that would cost you.
[05:23] <alkisg> nitpe: have a look at this one: https://github.com/libyal/libfvde/wiki/Mounting
[05:23] <alkisg> It's available in a 17.04 live cd
[05:24] <clackamas> alkisg: cool.
[05:24] <nitpe> cool
[05:24] <nitpe> gonna try that
[05:24] <nitpe> thx
[05:24] <alkisg> (and 16.10 too, but not 16.04)
[05:25] <nitpe> gonna burn an image on a pendrive to try it
[05:26] <alkisg> How can I integreate appstream metadata in an apt repository managed by reprepro?
[05:29] <nitpe> alkisg, so what exactly is available in the live CD ? you mean libfvde ?
[05:29] <alkisg> Yes, the package for that is only available after 16.10
[05:29] <renatosilva> are there official packages providing clients for letsencrypt?
[05:30] <nitpe> alkisg, got you! thx
[05:30] <alkisg> np; note that's just googling, I've never used apple
[05:52] <xas712> Is here anyone online?
[05:54] <alkisg> xas712: yes, about 1700 persons
[05:54] <alkisg> !ask
[05:56] <xas712> Wow!So many users are online!
[05:56] <xas712> Where is the chat server?
[05:56] <alkisg> !offtopic
[05:56] <hmz365> "device-mapper: reload ioctl on veracrypt1_0 failed: No such file or directory Command failed . " Anyone encounter the same problem has been resolved, the wing! Online is not the answer, for kernels from 3.14.54 to 4.5.2 is still the same, I do not know where the problem.
[05:56] <alkisg> xas712: for non-ubuntu questions, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:57] <xas712> OK.
[05:59] <alkisg> Searches in gnome-software return empty for half of the available packages! For example, if I do: `apt search frozen-bubble armagetronad` => both are listed. But if I search for them in gnome-software, only frozen-bubble is there. I wonder, is the old software-center still the best way to install packages for people that don't know how to use apt-get install?
[06:01] <Ben64> alkisg: "apt-get install package"
[06:01] <Ben64> now you know how to use it :D
[06:01] <alkisg> Ben64: can you teach the rest 5000 teachers here too?
[06:01] <alkisg> :)
[06:06] <alkisg> `appstreamcli search frozen-bubble` => ok, `appstreamcli search armagetronad` => not found. Meh.
[06:06]  * alkisg checks in debian...
[06:09] <Flannel> alkisg: synaptic is the most robust (insofar as not giving you kid gloves) GUI replacement for apt-get
[06:10] <alkisg> Flannel: hm, you may be quite right there, I thought its development was stopped but it appears it hasn't. Have you used in it 16.04 or so?
[06:10] <xas712> My Ubuntu Mate can't boot with "dtoverlay=vc4-kms-v3d" in /boot/config.txt. My board is Raspberry Pi 3. And sometimes the application blueman can't find my Bluetooth audio device. What should I do?
[06:10] <Flannel> alkisg: Not personally, no.
[06:11] <alkisg> ty, will check though
[06:11] <alkisg> Eh, `appstreamcli search armagetronad` works in debian stretch, so it just needs to be fixed in ubuntu
[06:13]  * alkisg checks in zesty...
[06:20] <xas712> Is here anyone online? My Ubuntu Mate can't boot with "dtoverlay=vc4-kms-v3d" in /boot/config.txt. My board is Raspberry Pi 3. And sometimes the application blueman can't find my Bluetooth audio device. What should I do?
[06:26] <sebsebseb> hi
[06:31] <OERIAS> I wish Ubuntu would not be slow as molasses on Vbox
[06:32] <alkisg> Change to ubuntu-mate :)
[06:32] <sebsebseb> OERIAS: adjust how much RAM you give it
[06:32] <sebsebseb> OERIAS: too much it might slow down anyway, to little it will slow down. you need to be in between,  the default may not be enough
[06:33] <OERIAS> sebsebseb, all you need is 640k
[06:33] <sebsebseb> OERIAS: espeically if it says 512MB its probably 1GB for Ubuntu but still
[06:33] <OERIAS> just kidding, i gave the machine 6 GB
[06:33] <sebsebseb> 1GB  at least i would say or usaully
[06:33] <alkisg> It's because of vbox not having opengl acceleration, not related to ram
[06:33] <sebsebseb> OERIAS: 6GB  virtual box RAM is probably too much, espeically since it works a bit differnetly from a real install with real RAM
[06:34] <OERIAS> sebsebseb, my machine has 16 GB of RAM
[06:34] <OERIAS> and i have another machine and 6 GB runs perfectly fine
[06:39] <EriC^^> OERIAS: give it more processors
[06:55] <alkisg> Flannel: synaptic works much better than gnome-software, thanks a lot :)
[06:56] <alkisg> ...maybe in 18.04 gnome-software will be ok, but right now it just sucks!
[07:17] <Vaxx> Lots of ppl here Goodmorning
[07:17] <DarwinsFox> !rp http://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/article/2017/04/03/logiciels-electoraux-les-politiques-francais-ont-du-mettre-fin-a-la-recolte-de-donnees-personnelles_5105296_4408996.html
[07:58] <Ananta> irc.freenode.net
[08:00] <Ananta> hi
[08:05] <Ananta> hi
[08:06] <alkisg> Hello
[08:06] <Ananta> i have problem with my focaltech touchpad
[08:06] <Ananta> with asus laptop
[08:07] <Ananta> the touchpad wont work after i suspend my laptop
[08:07] <Ananta> is there any of you guys can solve this problem?
[08:08] <alkisg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1504445
[08:09] <Ananta> thank u
[08:09] <Ananta> i will try it
[08:25] <Cmaj6> That last windows i used was windows XP (then i switched to linux). Now my current laptop has Windows 10 and i´m about to install Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS in a moment. Are there any things i need to concern when installing? Last time i heard, it wasn´t simply a process of inserting USB-disk/CD-ROM that contained an ubuntu-image and following along, but there were all sorts of things i need to switch and turn-off in UEFI or something?
[08:26] <EriC^^> Cmaj6: you might need to turn off secureboot and fastboot
[08:27] <EriC^^> (probably not though)
[08:27] <Cmaj6> that´s all?
[08:27] <EriC^^> Cmaj6: yup
[08:27] <Cmaj6> secureboot is configured in BIOS?
[08:27] <EriC^^> you do need to shrink the windows partition so ubuntu can use the unallocated space of course
[08:27] <EriC^^> Cmaj6: yeah, it should be under boot options
[08:28] <Cmaj6> nvm, i just remembered google is still my friend :p
[08:42] <rory> Is anyone using resilio-sync, formery bittorrent sync?
[08:42] <rory> I can't change the user the deamon runs as. I changed the variable name in /etc/init.d/resilio-sync but it always uses its own user
[08:44] <alkisg> !info resilio-sync
[08:45] <alkisg> rory, it's not an ubuntu package, so not supported here
[08:51] <qis> Is it possible to install libcurl4 without the header files? I only need the .so as a dependency.
[08:53] <rodrigot> does anybody here know how to install the old software center in ubuntu 16.04?
[08:54] <sebsebseb> rodrigot: why you want the old one?
[08:54] <sebsebseb> rodrigot: really the new one is just a re brandded GNOME software centre, with a few Canonical changes possibly
[08:54] <sebsebseb> rodrigot: they reolised it would be eaiser to support the GNOME one for years, instead of their custom one
[08:54] <alkisg> rodrigot: probably `apt install software-center`, but I haven't tested it. I just tested synaptic, it works fine :)
[08:55] <rodrigot> sebsebseb: well the new gnome software center has alot of buggy issues
[08:55] <alkisg> I don't think software-center is very related to gnome-software
[08:55] <sebsebseb> alkisg: rodrigot except software-center will probably the GNOME  software centre, not the old ubuntu software centre ?
[08:55] <k1l_> sebsebseb: no
[08:55] <sebsebseb> alkisg: buggy issues such as ?
[08:56] <sebsebseb> k1l_: ok so the old non GNOME, ubuntu software, can be installed and used instead, ilike rodrigot is asking ?
[08:56] <k1l_> software-center is the old one. gnome-software or ubuntu-software is the new one
[08:56] <sebsebseb> oh
[08:56] <sebsebseb> interesting
[08:56] <alkisg> sebsebseb: I wasn't the one that said buggy, but you can have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software to see
[08:56] <k1l_> ubuntu-software is the gnome-software just with added snaps and rebranded
[08:56] <sebsebseb> rodrigot: well there's your answer then, yes the old can be used
[08:56] <sebsebseb> k1l_: oh ok
[08:57] <k1l_> sebsebseb: and yes, the new gnome-software does hat a lot of bugs too. its not a fire and forget move
[08:57] <k1l_> *have
[08:57] <sebsebseb> k1l_: but yet Ubuntu 16.04 dropped ubuntus own for it :D
[08:57] <sebsebseb> by default
[08:57]  * alkisg thinks 16.04 should keep software-center as gnome-software isn't yet ready
[08:57] <alkisg> sebsebseb: that was probably just to save developer time, not because gnome-software was better
[08:58] <alkisg> (at that point)
[08:58] <sebsebseb> alkisg: you would have thought that the old ubuntu software centre, may actaully be better, since that's been around since what 2009?  where as GNOME software centre I think only for about three years really
[08:58] <k1l_> sebsebseb: yes, because having 2 software centers with bugs is pointless. but its not like the gnome thing is 100%
[08:59] <k1l_> sebsebseb: that is not how software code works. the linux kernel has been around some many decades and still has bugs :)
[08:59] <sebsebseb> k1l_: that's not the best example though. of course it does, it's also one of the biggest programs with millions of lines of code
[08:59] <supp> Hi. How would like download & install "GIMP Image Editor" on ubuntu terminal?
[08:59] <sebsebseb> supp: sudo apt-get install gimp
[08:59] <k1l_> supp: "sudo apt install gimp"
[08:59] <alkisg> The main problem is that gnome-software relies on appstream, and many packages don't have appstream metadata yet
[09:00] <rodrigot> alkisg:i tried the command and it just keeps saying software-center is already the newest version
[09:00] <qis> WTF! libcurl.so.4 is provide by the package libcurl3. Is that normal?
[09:00] <supp> using lastest version of Ubuntu. do I need -get anymore?
[09:00] <alkisg> rodrigot: then run `software-center` to see it
[09:00] <sebsebseb> !language
[09:01] <k1l_> supp: no you dont need to use apt-get. apt is the new apt-get
[09:01] <supp> sebsebseb, k1l_ thank you for your help...
[09:01] <sebsebseb> supp: your welcome
[09:01] <k1l_> supp: with "apt search gimp" you can search the package repos
[09:02] <rodrigot> alkisg:i just got an error doing that
[09:04] <alkisg> rodrigot: put it to paste.ubuntu.com so that we can see it, and paste the url here
[09:04] <alkisg> (or if it's one line, paste it here directly)
[09:05] <rodrigot> alkisg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24312199/
[09:05] <supp> Btw sudo apt clean && apt autoremove is this the right code?
[09:05] <k1l_> rodrigot: why are you root?
[09:06] <alkisg> rodrigot: run it as the user, not as root
[09:06] <k1l_> supp: you need sudo in front of both apt commands in this case
[09:06] <YankDownUnder> "sudo apt autoclean && sudo apt autoremove"
[09:06] <rodrigot> its since you didnt put sudo it said i had to run as root
[09:07] <supp> k1l_, Like "sudo apt clean && sudo apt autoremove"
[09:07] <k1l_> rodrigot: running things on your desktop as root is just the straight way into making a mess
[09:07] <k1l_> supp: yes
[09:07] <supp> k1l_, Is there any possible harm for system?
[09:08] <rodrigot> k1l: oh sorry
[09:08] <rodrigot> do you guys want me to try again?
[09:08] <alkisg> rodrigot: I just tested it and it works fine as the user, so yes
[09:08] <alkisg> try it again
[09:08] <YankDownUnder> If you're running as "root" there's heaps that can go wrong - and especially if you're on IRC or any other connected service (as root)...very nasty dangerous.
[09:09] <k1l_> rodrigot: i would suggest you look with "ls -al" in your users home what file permissions are already broken now
[09:09] <alkisg> Or with: find ~ ! -uid $(id -u)
[09:10] <alkisg> rodrigot: on another note, since I now tested software-center and synaptic, I think I'll be proposing synaptic for 16.04+, software-center seems a bit abandoned
[09:11] <rodrigot> how do i fix what k1l said alkisg?
[09:11] <alkisg> The permissions? Put the output of `find ~ ! -uid $(id -u)` to pastebin...
[09:12] <k1l_> rodrigot: chown the files and folders back to your user
[09:12] <EriC^^> rodrigot: sudo chown -R $USER: ~
[09:12] <EriC^^> that should set all the files and dirs to your user
[09:12] <alkisg> It's best to check first
[09:12] <alkisg> Because there might be settings inside the files referring to /root
[09:13] <alkisg> And he'll get broken programs then
[09:13] <EriC^^> pastebin'ing the output is kind of intrusive though, up to him though
[09:13] <alkisg> Yeah that's why I didn't give him the | nc termbin version...
[09:13] <rodrigot> alkisg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24312236/
[09:15] <alkisg> rodrigot: eh, that's quite broken... dconf, gnupg, dbus...
[09:15] <rodrigot> i know ubuntu 12.04 messed up my system
[09:15] <alkisg> No, it's because you run GUI programs as root
[09:16] <alkisg> Run the command that EriC^^ gave, but do keep an eye for more issues in settings
[09:16] <alkisg> sudo chown -R ariel:ariel /home/ariel
[09:17] <rodrigot> are you sure thats not going to break my system
[09:17] <alkisg> It surely won't make it worse
[09:17] <EriC^^> rodrigot: yeah it's fine
[09:18] <rodrigot> okay i did it
[09:18] <alkisg> Now try to run software-center as the user, not as root
[09:18] <alkisg> If it gives an error message, put it to pastebin
[09:20] <rodrigot> are you sure alkisg you said it was broken
[09:21] <alkisg> rodrigot: I said that synaptic seems better to me than software-center in 16.04. But software-center runs though, it doesn't give an error like you said.
 rodrigot: on another note, since I now tested software-center and synaptic, I think I'll be proposing synaptic for 16.04+, software-center seems a bit abandoned
[09:22] <alkisg> Right
[09:22] <alkisg> abandoned means no longer actively developed
[09:22] <alkisg> broken means not working
[09:22] <alkisg> Different concepts
[09:22] <rodrigot> there are many variables to this
[09:23] <alkisg> Anyway, I don't think there's a reason to get philosophical now
[09:25] <rodrigot> alkisg: it just is a disgrace they stopped supporting the old software center
[09:25] <alkisg> rodrigot: why? It's a company, that product wasn't selling, they stopped wasting money on its development.
[09:26] <alkisg> Anyway, now it goes offtopic...
[09:26] <YankDownUnder> It works for some folks, others it doesn't. Choices. We've got choices.
[09:26] <rodrigot> yep
[09:26] <k1l_> rodrigot: i bet they will accept patches from you to fix the issues and make the old software-center the best software center again :)
[09:26] <YankDownUnder> Synaptic & apt from the terminal do wonders. Simple and fast.
[09:26] <rodrigot> alkisg do you think gnbome is making them money?
[09:27] <rodrigot> *gnome
[09:27] <alkisg> rodrigot: that part is offtopic now, you can ask in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want
[09:27] <rodrigot> of sorry back to ubuntu
[09:28] <k1l_> rodrigot: its not about making money. its about i costs money to pay developers to work on the code. and with the gnome-software its maintained by a wider community and companies, not only by ubuntu and canonical.
[09:29] <rodrigot> k1l:thats off topic we want to stay inline with the discussion
[09:30]  * alkisg thinks the main idea behind software-center was to support selling products outside of the debian repository, e.g. magazines or proprietary software, and that didn't bring as much customers as anticipated, so it was abandoned. But it's open source, if someone wants to continue it, of course they can do so.
[09:31] <thereyougo> any suggestion of a really small linux live CD ? that doesn't require more than 64MB of RAM or less, I don't need X, I want to ssh to it, but I want to run few of them 5-10 in a qemu, that is why I need small ones because I have only 2GB of RAM and I can allocate to qemu only under 512MB
[09:31] <alkisg> thereyougo: how about lxc or chroots?
[09:31] <alkisg> Those can share ram
[09:31] <rodrigot> and i think it could of been faster and better if it was written in c or c++
[09:32] <sebsebseb> hi
[09:32] <YankDownUnder> "Software Centre" is supposed to be in line with "App Store" and the likes of that...marketing, really...
[09:32] <ikonia> thereyougo: there isn't an ubuntu build that is designed to run in 64mb of ram
[09:32] <selckin> thereyougo: busybox is the keyword to google
[09:34] <ber532k> thereyougo: if you're really comfortable with using the commandline and other distros you could install some Debian or Arch base system (but now I'm getting way offtopic)
[09:34] <alkisg> Debian isn't very different to Ubuntu when it comes to minimal RAM
[09:34] <thereyougo> I need LiveCD
[09:35] <alkisg> It has a smaller initrd, so it can boot in less RAM, but that can be minimized in Ubuntu too. But after the initramfs is discarded, the RAM usage is similar.
[09:35] <YankDownUnder> Could always dig around for an ancient version - like 7.04 or so...
[09:35] <k1l_> thereyougo: lubuntu is the most small you can get. for others better ask in #linux
[09:35] <kbob> thereyougo: if you install ubuntu from the net iso you can add only the little you need
[09:35] <alkisg> thereyougo: you'll get better help if you describe what you want to do though
[09:35] <thereyougo> never did net iso
[09:35] <kbob> try
[09:35] <alkisg> (i.e. why live cd and not chroot/lxc)
[09:37] <medwards> I seem to have a hanging initrd.img in /boot (initrd.img-4.4.0-59-generic). If I try to remove apt-get remove linux-image with that version specifier it says package not installed. Is it safe to manually remove this image?
[09:37] <thereyougo> I need to run some network software on  separate machines, I can't run many instances of same programm on one machine because it creates its own network interface and its own routes, so I need to isolate them in separate virtual machine
[09:38] <thereyougo> hat is why I need minimal linux, all I need is to run one programm
[09:38] <alkisg> thereyougo: you can use ltsp if you want
[09:38] <YankDownUnder> thereyougo: I'll assume you've looked into DSL? (Damn Small Linux)
[09:39] <k1l_> thereyougo: that sounds like you want containers on a base system
[09:39] <thereyougo> and I need least 10 of VM running, but I have only 2GB of RAM and I have only 25% free of that so I can give VM only 500MB of RAM or 500/10=50MB to each VM
[09:39] <alkisg> You'll need to trim down the initrd to make it boot on 64 mb ram
[09:40] <alkisg> It worked out of the box in 10.04, but not in 16.04, it needs a few adjustments
[09:40] <thereyougo> containers on a base system ?
[09:40] <mcphail> thereyougo: I'd suggest lxd with Alpine Linux images. (But only the lxd part of that answer is on-topic here, so I suggest you ask in ##linux)
[09:40] <k1l_> thereyougo: linux containers are similar to vm, but use the same kernel. they are way smaller than vms
[09:41] <alkisg> medwards: if you have an initrd with no matching kernel, then yes remove it
[09:42] <k1l_> thereyougo: #lxcontainers is the place for lxc/lxd
[09:42] <medwards> alkisg: Thanks, do I need to run any support tools (ie grub updates, update-initramf, etc)
[09:43] <alkisg> medwards: can you put the output of `ls /boot/` to pastebin, to make sure?
[09:43] <medwards> alkisg: wilco
[09:44] <thereyougo> considering popularity of ubuntu, why no one come up with idea of creting micro ubuntu live CD ?
[09:44] <medwards> alkisg: http://pastebin.ca/3791349
[09:45] <alkisg> medwards: it's not about the cd size, it's the kernel+initrd ram that's the limit
[09:45] <alkisg> Currently that's about 160 MB to boot, 20 MB after it boots
[09:45] <k1l_> thereyougo: there are more than enough of that already. but its still the wrong concept for your issue
[09:45] <alkisg> medwards: yup just rm initrd.img-4.4.0-59-generic
[09:45] <Thefirstnizza> How do i undo a torrent from initial seeding config? (rtorrent)
[09:46] <Thefirstnizza> d.set_connection_seed=initial_seed
[09:46] <Thefirstnizza> does not work
[09:46] <Thefirstnizza> sorry
[09:46] <Thefirstnizza> d.set_connection_seed=seed
[09:47] <alkisg> (12:45:05 μμ) alkisg: medwards: it's not about the cd size, it's the kernel+initrd ram that's the limit ==> that was for thereyougo, sorry
[09:48] <medwards> alkisg: aight. thanks again for doublechecking my thinking. If you have a good article on how /boot works (especially around ubuntu kernel packages) then I'd be interested in reading it.
[09:49] <alkisg> medwards: dpkg -S /boot => gives you list of packages that write there, dpkg -L linux-image-4.8.0-45-generic => gives you list of package files, man update-initramfs => tells you how initrd.xxx is generated, because it's not shipped but generated
[09:50] <rodrigot> alksig:i got software center now but i get an error saying Package dependencies cannot be resolved
[09:50] <medwards> alkisg: damnit, thats why dpkg -S /boot/initrd-whatever wasn't helpful -.-. Thanks again
[09:50] <Guest51720> hey
[09:50] <alkisg> rodrigot: paste the command and error to paste.ubuntu.cmo
[09:50] <alkisg> *com
[09:51] <k1l_> rodrigot: you are on 16.04? then please run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" and put all the output to a pastebin
[09:52] <rodrigot> alkisg: i cannot copy its not a command its a dialog
[09:53] <rodrigot> when i try to install hexchat i get that error
[09:53] <alkisg> rodrigot: start with what k1l_ asked
[09:53] <mark76> Well.  This is it.  As of 13/04/2017 Ubuntu has finally run out of alphabet
[09:53] <rodrigot> isnt that going to reinstall the whole thing?
[09:54] <alkisg> No, it just does normal updates to the system
[09:54] <k1l_> mark76: relax. mark shuttleworth will announde after the 17.04 release what the new release will be called
[09:54] <k1l_> rodrigot: no, close the software center, run my command, put the output to a pastebin.
[09:56] <mark76> A and C are still available :D
[09:57] <angel-code> How would i make "pat" will be the end of the word grep [a-z] /home/db/Documents/words | grep "pat" | grep t | grep h | grep n | grep i
[09:57] <rodrigot> alkisg http://paste.ubuntu.com/24312382/
[09:59] <alkisg> rodrigot: ok, now try again to install hexchat. Does it still have an issue?
[10:00] <Ben64> angel-code: you really need to just learn regex
[10:01] <k1l_> rodrigot: "xchat" is no longet in the repos since its dead. use hexchat instead
[10:01] <ivan> angel-code: grep -P 'pat$'
[10:01] <k1l_> rodrigot: ah sorry, you already tried hexchat. then that is fine :)
[10:02] <alkisg> Hit:6 http://ppa.launchpad.net/overcoder/hexchat/ubuntu xenial InRelease
[10:02] <alkisg> rodrigot: PPAs are not supported here
[10:02] <alkisg> Remove the PPA if it has broken dependencies or whatever
[10:02] <alkisg> !ppa
[10:02] <angel-code> Ben64, I read it all just can not figure out some
[10:03] <Ben64> angel-code: http://www.rexegg.com/regex-quickstart.html
[10:05] <rodrigot> alkisg http://paste.ubuntu.com/24312405/
[10:05] <alkisg> rodrigot: yes, read what I said about ppas
[10:05] <alkisg> Remove that ppa, it's broken
[10:05] <alkisg> !ppa-purge
[10:06] <k1l_> rodrigot: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:06] <k1l_> run that, this will list all the sources repos on your system and upload them to a pastebin and show you an url.
[10:13] <rodrigot> k1l http://termbin.com/jvz1
[10:14] <k1l_> rodrigot: did you already remove the ppa?
[10:14] <rodrigot> yes still nothing
[10:14] <k1l_> did you use ppa-purge?
[10:15] <rodrigot> no
[10:15] <rodrigot> why
[10:16] <k1l_> rodrigot: because you still have the PPA pacakges installed if you just remove the PPA servers. ppa-purge is there to remove the PPA packages too and makes you a clean ubuntu state again
[10:16] <k1l_> rodrigot: please run "sudo apt update && apt policy hexchat | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:18] <rodrigot> can i use apt-get now
[10:18] <rodrigot> ?
[10:18] <k1l_> rodrigot: we dont know what you doing there. so please provide the facts requested
[10:19] <rodrigot> but i did what you said
 rodrigot: please run "sudo apt update && apt policy hexchat | nc termbin.com 9999"   please provide the output url
[10:20] <rodrigot> k1l http://termbin.com/7cya
[10:21] <k1l_> rodrigot: ok, that looks good. "sudo apt install hexchat" now. if it reports any errors please provide the full output in a pastebin
[10:21] <txtechnow> hmm that reminds me, i forgot to install iptraf on my ubuntu based VPS
[10:22] <rodrigot> i already did
[10:23] <k1l_> rodrigot: and?
[10:23] <k1l_> rodrigot: did you do that before or after removing the ppa? what is the output if you run the apt install hexchat command now?
[10:24] <k1l_> rodrigot: keep in mind, you need to tell us what you do and what you see. we have no clue what you do there
[10:24] <rodrigot> weres tht ppa purge command?
[10:24] <k1l_> its like calling your car mechanic per phone and only telling him" my car is broken" he cant have a clue without you giving more details
[10:25] <rodrigot> i gave you the ouput look up on there
[10:26] <k1l_> what is the output if you run "sudo apt install hexchat" now!?
[10:27] <odinsbane> My home directory partition is somewhat small compared to some partitions I use for data. Unfortunately the trash gets stored on the home folder.
[10:27] <rodrigot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24312599/
[10:28] <odinsbane> Is there a good way to manage this?
[10:29] <k1l_> rodrigot: ok, please run "apt policy hexchat hexchat-common libc6 | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here
[10:29] <unic0rn> hi. is there an official wubi version for 16.04.2?
[10:30] <k1l_> unic0rn: wubi is dead, let it go
[10:30] <txtechnow> wubi sucked
[10:30] <rodrigot> http://termbin.com/ma3b
[10:30] <txtechnow> if you can't do a dedicated install, just do a VM
[10:30] <hateball> odinsbane: well it's an XDG config, so you could have a dedicated trash partition perhaps
[10:31] <hateball> odinsbane: if you want trash:// to be mount-specific I am not sure that is possible
[10:32] <k1l_> rodrigot: sudo apt install --reinstall hexchat-common
[10:32] <odinsbane> hateball: I like the idea of a trash partition. I would use it for other things too.
[10:33] <alkisg> odinsbane: moving things to trash is instant because it's "mv". Copying to another partition will take time for deletions.
[10:33] <alkisg> (can't mv fast between partitions)
[10:34] <rodrigot> it worked i just had to remove the fildes to were not required
[10:34] <k1l_> rodrigot: then run "sudo apt install hexchat" now
[10:34] <odinsbane> All of the users share the same home partition, so it is possible that somebody will fill up the partition even though they think they are deleting files.
[10:35] <hateball> odinsbane: well you could enforce retention time
[10:36] <odinsbane> Maybe that is the best.
[10:37] <hateball> Users need to learn that the "trash" folder isnt a normal storage area, regardless of application...
[10:37] <liufei> i can't push code to github.com it is say:fatal: Could not read from remote repository.
[10:37] <liufei> Please make sure you have the correct access rights
[10:37] <liufei> and the repository exists.
[10:37] <liufei>  always
[10:40] <odinsbane> liufei: Seems pretty explicit. Have you pushed to this repo before?
[10:46] <odinsbane> liufei: is git commit failing?
[10:48] <liufei> succeed
[10:49] <liufei> my command : git push github.com:JackSmith555/orangewater origin
[10:51] <liufei> is it correct?
[10:51] <liufei> i forget alway
[10:53] <liufei> it topic :Permission denied why?what happen?
[10:55] <immu_> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: Pointer to flat panel table invalid ? does anyone know why i get this error message?
[10:56] <hateball> immu_: Probably because nouveau isnt up to snuff yet
[10:57] <immu_> hateball: i am using a upstream kernel 4.10.8, i won't get this error message from using a 4.8.x kernel provided by ubuntu?
[10:59] <hateball> immu_: well if you're not using an official kernel then it's hard for anyone here to support it
[11:01] <hateball> immu_: for newer mesa (nouveau) there is this PPA these days https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/ubuntu/updates
[11:01] <hateball> immu_: or just use the nvidia binary blob
[11:02] <liufei> sorry second question: i complie kernel use "make defconfig". it's succeed ,but mouse and net can't normal work how to finis?h
[11:02] <ikonia> because thats using the default config
[11:02] <ikonia> why are you evening compiling kernels and not using the ubuntu provided ones
[11:02] <immu_> hateball: do you use these PPA and when 17.04 is released how should i downgrade to avoid conflicts
[11:05] <hateball> immu_: all PPAs are disabled with do-release-upgrade
[11:05] <hateball> so you'll be reverted to official 17.04 packages automatically
[11:05] <ikonia> that doesn't make it safe though
[11:05] <hateball> That's a fair point
[11:05] <ikonia> as it disables PPA's it doesn't remove the packages the PPA provided that may cause conflict
[11:06] <hateball> immu_: To be sure everything is cleaned, use ppa-purge
[11:06] <hateball> It's also noted in the description on the PPA in question
[11:06] <k1l_> and it doesnt upgrade to the 17.04 pacakges if the ppa packages have a higher versioning, iirc.
[11:06] <immu_> hateball: what will please install the ppa-purge package do? really?
[11:07] <hateball> !ppa-purge
[11:07] <EriC^^> immu_: it will remove all the ppa packages and try to reinstall the official repo packages in place of the newer ppa ones
[11:11] <immu_> hateball, EriC^^:  risky stuff maaan
[11:11] <EriC^^> what ppa's do you have?
[11:12] <hateball> immu_: Not really any riskier than running unsupported mainline kernels :)
[11:14] <immu_> hmm
[11:14] <immu_> with upgrade few days ahead, i think i would wait.
[11:16] <immu_> hateball: hmm?
[11:16] <hateball> That's probably the best option if you're afraid of breaking things
[11:21] <xxxRenjixxx> hello everyone =)
[11:27] <liufei> litterbird 67qw12
[11:27] <hateball> liufei: if that's a password, you should probably change it now
[11:28] <liufei> NickServ littebird 67qw12
[11:29] <immu_> hateball:  lol liufei
[11:32] <w9qbj> too short and too easy to be a password, they're allways long and complex :-)
[11:34] <freexe> Hi, I'm not exactly sure what has gone wrong, but I constantly have to "sudo service dnsmasq restart". It may be a hardware issue, or I might have attempted to install something to handle the DNS ages ago and I forgot about it. Any ideas what it might be, or how to fix it?
[11:35] <nsh> is qt5, like, broken or something in ubuntu?
[11:35] <hateball> nsh: in what way?
[11:35] <ioria> nsh you see glitches at login  ?
[11:36] <nsh> menus are screwed...
[11:36] <nsh> "QGtkStyle could not resolve GTK. Make sure you have installed the proper libraries. / QCommonStyle::drawComplexControl: Control 1 not handled"
[11:36] <nsh> (particular app is IDA but it appear to affect lots of qt5 widget apps)
[11:37] <hateball> have you configured a GTK theme you dont have the engine for then?
[11:37] <liufei> i had registed
[11:37] <k1l_> or is the theme broken?
[11:38] <nsh> i haven't configured anything, total default xfce window env
[11:38] <nsh> might be related to appmenu-qt per https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appmenu-qt5/+bug/1307619
[11:38] <nsh> oh no, that's not installed here
[11:39] <ioria> nsh  anything in cat ~/.xsession-errors ?
[11:39] <nsh> not especially, just the error from the qt in the application i pasted above
[11:40] <ioria> nsh   Guest Account ?
[11:41] <nsh> no, regular unpriv user account logged in. maybe it's because it's an unstyled/unthemed app. i know basically nothing about qt/gtk
[11:42] <ioria> nsh   i mean...  have you tried the Guest Account ?
[11:46] <nsh> oh
[11:49] <charnel> msg nickserv identify malazlar
[11:49] <selckin> rekt
[11:50] <ber532k> charnel it's //msg
[11:50] <ber532k> sry, /msg
[11:51] <ber532k> charnel: you will probably want to change your password ...
[11:51] <ber532k> * actually `/msg NickServ identify ******`
[11:58] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:58] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:58] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:58] <BluesKaj> oops
[12:04] <ad> I just installed 14.04 in my pc. but it shows the message of 'running in low graphics mode'. what can i do to resolve the issue
[12:04] <ad> It works fine when booted with usb
[12:05] <hateball> ad: what GPU chipset are you using?
[12:05] <ad> hateball, none - Intel 8545 board with integrated graphics
[12:05] <hateball> ad: go into the software updater -> additional drivers and make sure you're not missing anything
[12:05] <lace> hi all..
[12:05] <hateball> ad: oh
[12:07] <Guest20174> I have a question... for many years ago.. me and my friends made a lan party.. we weare playing quake. my firend some how send the game to 5 computeres with out installing on windows.. from linux..
[12:07] <Guest20174> they just had to press there name in the game.. and then the linux computer send the screen keyboard and sound
[12:07] <Guest20174> any one knows what that is called
[12:08] <ioria> ad can you paste lspci -k | grep VGA -A 3
[12:08] <ivan> Guest20174: what does "send the game" even mean
[12:09] <pullinghairout> hello
[12:09] <pullinghairout> is anyone here
[12:09] <pullinghairout> help me please
[12:10] <pullinghairout> im near the edge
[12:10] <ivan> Guest20174: are you trying to share one keyboard and mouse between many computers?
[12:10] <Guest20174> that the game only was installed on linux machine.. then he sended the screen and keyboard mouse and sound... to 5 other computers.. just like they had installed also.. but they were running windows..
[12:10] <Guest20174> the whole thing was send from linux machine..
[12:10] <ivan> maybe you're looking for http://alternativeto.net/software/synergy/ or something similar
[12:10] <dr_> Hello
[12:11] <CrazySane> I use Synergy. Works great.
[12:11] <ivan> pullinghairout: get used to that feeling on desktop linux
[12:11] <ivan> pullinghairout: you can just ask your question here
[12:11] <Guest20174> it seems like something like that.. It was so amazing...
[12:11] <pullinghairout> ah hello ivan
[12:11] <Guest20174> have you ever tried something like that
[12:11] <pullinghairout> right ive never used linux, untill a few days ago
[12:12] <pullinghairout> i did not create a duel boot option
[12:12] <pullinghairout> and now i am trapped, i cannot get off the ubuntu ride
[12:12] <ivan> pullinghairout: do you have windows on another drive?
[12:12] <dr_> can any one help me with R ?
[12:13] <pullinghairout> a bootable usb but this will not boot, mentions issues with the hard drive partions
[12:13] <ivan> pullinghairout: did you mess with your windows partitions when installing linux?
[12:13] <Guest20174> :-) just youtubing it now
[12:14] <ivan> pullinghairout: are you pressing some key to get into a boot menu via the bios and then selecting that usb drive?
[12:14] <ad> ioria, can i boot from usb and then paste the results of lspci....? as i am not able to login and not getting into the shell
[12:14] <ivan> pullinghairout: do you have a transcription or photo of your boot error?
[12:14] <pullinghairout> i really do not remember doing so, i have looked at gparted and my hard drive does not have any FAT32 or NTSF hard drive partions
[12:14] <ioria> ad ctrl+alt+f1 (f2) not working ?
[12:15] <ivan> pullinghairout: windows booted from usb before, right?
[12:15] <pullinghairout> yes it did
[12:16] <ad> ioria : No it is not workign, It shows the login promt, but as soon as i put user name & password it clerar the screen adn again show the login prompt.
[12:17] <ioria> ad ..... no good .... your cpu and ram ?
[12:17] <ivan> pullinghairout: which version of windows? also, your only hope might be to put in some windows media and have it do some boot repair
[12:17] <ivan> pullinghairout: I would back up your valuable windows partition data anyway using ntfs-3g from linux
[12:17] <ad> ioria : Intel Dual Core, Ram 2 GB, HDD 160 GB (2 partitions with 80 gb each)
[12:18] <sopparus> hello, anyone know if you can use sudo -u aguy and get aguy's user variables?
[12:18] <pullinghairout> i cleared the hard drive to do this
[12:18] <pullinghairout> which is why i am pulling my hair out
[12:18] <ivan> pullinghairout: uh you can't expect windows to boot if you cleared the hard drive, right
[12:18] <ioria> ad  you can try recovery mode from grub screen (press shift or esc after bios)
[12:19] <ioria> ad  or the Livecd
[12:19] <ad> ioria : I will try and let you know
[12:19] <ioria> ad  ok
[12:21] <pullinghairout> would this be easier if i had a second hard drive to use?
[12:21] <ivan> pullinghairout: yes it's easier to dual-boot with a linux drive and a windows drive
[12:21] <pullinghairout> im not saying duel boot really i just wanna go back to windows
[12:21] <Cmaj6> #$%&#@@#!$
[12:22] <pullinghairout> would having a second hard drive making preping my current drive for windows easier
[12:22] <Cmaj6> Finally back at linux!!!
[12:22] <ivan> pullinghairout: no, why would you need a second drive, just install windows over the linux drive
[12:22] <Cmaj6> had to work for 6 months on windows exclusively!
[12:22] <ad> ioria : it gives the same low graphics mode warning in failsafe graphics mode. I have live usb though
[12:22] <pullinghairout> i am trying this
[12:22] <ivan> pullinghairout: windows installer will let you delete the partitions, then select the entire storage device
[12:22] <pullinghairout> hmmmmm
[12:22] <pullinghairout> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[12:22] <pullinghairout> kk brb
[12:23] <pullinghairout> ty for help if i do not return
[12:23] <ivan> np
[12:23] <alkisg> sopparus: user variables => if you mean environment variables, those are per process, not per user
[12:23] <ioria> ad  did you choose 'resume' ot 'root shell' ?
[12:24] <ioria> ad  in recovery , you should have a menu : resume, fsck, clean, netwotking, root shell  etc. etc ...  you want root shell
[12:25] <alkisg> maybe networking first, root after; to get network and rw /
[12:25] <ad> ioria : sorry, I tried failsafe graphics mode. But now i am in root shell
[12:25] <ioria> ad can you paste lspci -k | grep VGA -A 3
[12:25] <ioria> ad sorry,   just    lspci -k | grep VGA -A 3
[12:26] <ioria> ad sorry,   it tells you your graphic card and driver in use
[12:27] <torshabi> Hello world, here I am!
[12:28] <ioria> ad sorry,   but in recovery you won't have a driver in use, just paste the card model
[12:29] <Guest20174> is it posible to play ghost recon wildlands on linux?
[12:31] <ad> ioria : VGA Compatible Controller : Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated ICS Controller (rev 02)
[12:31] <hateball> !appdb | Guest20174 not currently
[12:31] <ad> ioria : VGA Compatible Controller : Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated ICS Controller (rev 02)
[12:32] <LordDragon> hey all
[12:32] <ioria> ad  dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-intel
[12:33] <LordDragon> how can i find out what my ipv6 address is on my ubuntu vps?
[12:33] <smerz> ip a
[12:33] <ioria> ad  if it starts with 'ii' is installed
[12:33] <smerz> if the ip address is bound locally
[12:34] <LordDragon> ok i have an inet6
[12:34] <LordDragon> but its some compressed ip address
[12:34] <LordDragon> with /64
[12:34] <LordDragon> how do i figure out what the full address is?
[12:34] <ad> ioria, yes -> ii xserver-xorg-v 2:2.99.910-0 i386 x.org x server -- intel i8xx,
[12:35] <ioria> ad  i386 ?
[12:35] <ad> yes
[12:35] <ioria> ad  you installed ubuntu 32 bit ?
[12:35] <ad> yes
[12:35] <LordDragon> it says   inet6 fe54::616:3aff:fee1:144e/64 scope link
[12:35] <ad> ioria : it is an old pc
[12:36] <LordDragon> since it doesnt say "eth0", does that mean its not actually a wan ip address to the internet?
[12:36] <ioria> ad  grep model /proc/cpuinfo
[12:37] <ad> ioria, : INTEL(R) PENTIUM DUAL CPU E2140 @ 1.60GHZ
[12:37] <ducasse> LordDragon: that's a link local address, not a globally routable one
[12:38] <ioria> ad  i'am not sure compiz will work with that card ... a moment
[12:38] <LordDragon> ducasse: oh i see. how would i set it up with an ipv6 address?
[12:39] <ducasse> LordDragon: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-ipv6-networking-configuration/
[12:39] <LordDragon> ducasse: thanks :)
[12:39] <Guest20174> is it posible to play ghost recon wildlands on linux?
[12:40] <ad> ioria : this same pc used to run ubuntu 14.04 for many years, It started giving some errors so i formatted and reinstalled the ubuntu.
[12:40] <ad> ioria : and it runs when booted from live usb
[12:41] <ioria> ad ok .... uname -r ?
[12:41] <ducasse> Guest20174: you already got an answer for that
[12:42] <ad> ioria, 3.13.0-24-generic
[12:42] <Guest20174> dident see that before now.. thanks for quick answer
[12:42] <ioria> ad you may need some updates ... try to reboot, recovery -> enable networking -> root shell again
[12:43] <Guest20174> does things requere more hardware to run the games fluent.. than windows
[12:43] <ioria> ad  current kernel for trusty is <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:45] <ber532k> Guest20174: It's not about hardware but mostly about libraries.
[12:45] <Guest20174> ok...
[12:46] <Guest20174> havent tried to game in linux.. but if I can get it to play fluent... then it is goodbye to windows
[12:47] <LordDragon> ok so i followed those instructions
[12:47] <LordDragon> but when i try to ping6 google.com
[12:47] <LordDragon> i get "Network is unreachable"
[12:48] <CrazySane> Good morning
[12:48] <ber532k> Guest20174: You might try googling PlayOnLinux and SteamOS / Steam on Linux / Steam on Ubuntu
[12:49] <smerz> LordDragon, do you have an ipv6 default route? `ip -6 route` should show a line like this: default via 2001:420:1f0b:edb::1 dev enp3s0  proto static  metric 100  pref medium
[12:49] <smerz> otherwise you may need to add a default route for ipv6 traffic
[12:50] <LordDragon> i have a line like that
[12:50] <LordDragon> but it only has
[12:50] <LordDragon> "dev eth0  proto kernel  metric 256
[12:50] <LordDragon> "
[12:50] <Guest20174>  You might try googling PlayOnLinux and SteamOS / Steam on Linux / Steam on Ubuntu You might try googling PlayOnLinux and SteamOS / Steam on Linux / Steam on Ubuntu
[12:50] <LordDragon> at the end
[12:50] <smerz> LordDragon, can you post the output on some no-paste site ?
[12:52] <LordDragon> smerz: https://pastebin.com/LsK2jRzE
[12:52] <ad> ioria,  : Do you mean i need to get latest iso and then install it again
[12:52] <Guest20174> thanks ber532k will try mageia on a clean disk later or in the weekend..
[12:52] <ioria> ad no, i mean you need to upgrade your instal ...
[12:52] <smerz> LordDragon, you don't have a default route for ipv6 internet traffic
[12:53] <ioria> ad  apt-get update, upgrade, dist-upgrade
[12:53] <ioria> ad  but you need connectivity for that
[12:53] <LordDragon> smerz: hmm. is that a setting i need to add in /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:54] <smerz> LordDragon, route add -A inet6 default gw <ipv6 address, use suffix ::1> (to add the route at runtime) and yes it should be placed in the interfaces file so that it will work automatically on boot too
[12:55] <smerz> syntax in that interfaces file is different. lemme find it :)
[12:56] <smerz> LordDragon,  https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997443&s=3c4df0704060f7267f40f549bff8c7ca&p=12001765#post12001765
[12:56] <LordDragon> okie thanks
[12:57] <LordDragon> smerz: this is how my file looks now: https://pastebin.com/MFLqLL6S
[12:58] <smerz> your gateway is: gateway 2605:0170:0002:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001  but I think it should be 2605:0170:0002:01BF::1
[12:58] <ioria> ad  in alternative, you can install again an select 'install updates while installing'
[12:58] <smerz> which is short for 2605:0170:0002:01BF:0000:0000:0000:0001
[12:59] <smerz> also your ip route output didn't show that route. so I don't think that route was configured correctly
[12:59] <hateball> Guest20174: There's plenty of Linux native games, but those are only on Steam, GOG or itch.io (or open source)
[12:59] <hateball> Guest20174: Origin and uPlay can be made to run in Wine tho, as well the games you get from there
[13:00] <ad> ioria, : ok it is upgrading, will let you know when done. Thanks for your patience
[13:01] <ioria> ad  you're welcome
[13:06] <bigx> hello there
[13:06] <sebsebseb> bigx: hi
[13:06] <bigx> I'd like to bring attention to a very weird problem I'm facing with kabylake/hd620 and dual screen
[13:07] <sebsebseb> bigx: ok?
[13:07] <bigx> I have an hdmi output which works perfectly (tested with 3 different monitors) but not with my own monitor!!
[13:08] <bigx> here is my askubuntu question, http://askubuntu.com/questions/896375/external-screen-recognized-but-black
[13:08] <tsglove> I setup a Ubuntu 16.04 (Server) as a DHCP machine.  I have successfully made it give out IP addresses.  Yet, how can I make it "NAT"/gateway?  Any suggested links?   I have tried to do it via placing rules in /etc/rc.local, yet I get ping to <IP_ADDRESS>,  yet no ping to google.com
[13:08] <tsglove> Any idea what I am doing wrong?
[13:09] <blackflow> tsglove:  what rules?
[13:09] <tsglove> blackflow, fetching them now... give me a couple of secs please.
[13:11] <tsglove> blackflow, these are the ones I have right now: https://pastebin.com/GLM51T71
[13:12] <tsglove> three lines.  I am a total beginner in iptables, so... still learning what each lines does, and what each flag does
[13:12] <tsglove> Oh, sorry--- enp0s3 is the internet-facing (WAN?)... and enp0s8 is the "internal"  facing one (the one handing out DHCP)
[13:14] <DragonBytes> smerz: ok so this is an improvement. i used the lines and the gateway u suggested. ping6 functions but
[13:14] <blackflow> tsglove: doesn't seem right, you shouldn't add such rules to the forward chain. lemme dig out some simple example on the net
[13:14] <DragonBytes> im getting this error from ping6
[13:14] <DragonBytes> From qk-in-x8b.1e100.net icmp_seq=6 Destination unreachable: Address unreachable
[13:14] <Squarism> im on a docker slimmed down ubuntu. i have neither ifconfig nor iptables. Are there any last resort "network view" commands that could be installed?
[13:14] <DragonBytes> when trying to ping6 google.com
[13:14] <Squarism> (it doesnt have internet access atm)
[13:15] <tsglove> blackflow, thank you very much!  I have read and tried a LOT of HowTos... yet some are for older systems (not sure if there is a lot of change between 10.04 and 16.04), and some even used Webmin (yet I would like to do it CLI 100%)
[13:15] <blackflow> tsglove: for example: http://serverfault.com/questions/564866/how-to-setup-linux-server-as-a-router-with-nat
[13:15] <tsglove> on my way!
[13:16] <akik> Squarism: can you add them to your docker?
[13:16] <blackflow> tsglove: note that this is "SNAT", or source nat, allowing traffic to initiate from LAN to WAN
[13:16] <blackflow> tsglove: to do reverse, it's port forwarding aka DNAT
[13:16] <tsglove> blackflow, trying this out now... will update in a couple of minutes.
[13:17] <tsglove> blackflow, Today I Learned about "SNAT" and "DNAT"..    I reckon DNAT is Destination NAT?
[13:17] <blackflow> tsglove: yes, it NAT-s your public IP dst address to internal LAN dst
[13:18] <Squarism> akik, i guess
[13:18] <blackflow> so packets destined to your.pub.lic.ip are translated to your.int.ernal.ip
[13:18] <tsglove> awesome.   Going to try your link's config now... will update shortly!!
[13:19] <guest-fTZ0iu> Haaallpo
[13:19] <akik> Squarism: add iproute2 package
[13:19] <blackflow> tsglove: the sNAT is essentially rule #2 in that example, the others are for the case when you have policy drop on input and output
[13:19] <guest-fTZ0iu> what is this chat about
[13:20] <akik> Squarism: iptables is in the iptables package
[13:20] <blackflow> guest-fTZ0iu: Ubuntu Linux support
[13:20] <guest-fTZ0iu> who was ted kennedy
[13:22] <kitoy> where can i download 16.04 release of ubuntu desktop?
[13:22] <kitoy> and not the recent 16.04.2 lts?
[13:24] <guest-EjT1Kn> heyyyyyy bitches
[13:24] <guest-EjT1Kn> was geht
[13:25] <alkisg> kitoy: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04.1/
[13:25] <Countess_Bathory> kitoy,  magnet:?xt=urn:btih:9f9165d9a281a9b8e782cd5176bbcc8256fd1871&dn=ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso&tr=http%3a%2f%2ftorrent.ubuntu.com%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=http%3a%2f%2fipv6.torrent.ubuntu.com%3a6969%2fannounce
[13:25] <guest-g9GaIU> #test
[13:26] <kitoy> thanks guys
[13:26] <guest-EjT1Kn> heyyyyyyy bitvhes
[13:26] <twicky> XD
[13:26] <guest-EjT1Kn> add me on snapchat
[13:26] <guest-g9GaIU> hey
[13:26] <guest-EjT1Kn> rojjdaa
[13:26] <twicky> ive had better ideas
[13:26] <twicky> ...ive also had worse
[13:26] <guest-g9GaIU> ok
[13:27] <guest-g9GaIU> hey was geht
[13:27] <guest-EjT1Kn> heyyy axel
[13:28] <guest-fTZ0iu> ant
[13:28] <guest-fTZ0iu> h
[13:28] <guest-fTZ0iu> shshshsh
[13:28] <guest-fTZ0iu> ahahahahahahahahaha
[13:28] <guest-g9GaIU> hey
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[13:29] <chenwenbin_> 大家好，我是新人
[13:29] <wastrel> !cn chenwenbin_
[13:29] <wastrel> what happen
[13:29] <chenwenbin_> 这是做什么用的？

[13:31] <guest-fTZ0iu> si
[13:31] <guest-fTZ0iu> amigo
[13:32] <guest-g9GaIU> Hey axel ich bin larissa du bist scheissae
[13:32] <chenwenbin_> Could you speak Chinese?
[13:33] <ducasse> chenwenbin_: /join #ubuntu-cn
[13:33] <blackflow> chenwenbin_: no. this channel is english only, please check #ubuntu-cn
[13:33] <chenwenbin_> hello?
[13:33] <wastrel> 我们不会说中文 / we don't know how to speak chinese
[13:34] <scottjl> we can barely handle english. ;-)
[13:34] <BluesKaj> don't think he reads chinese characters either
[13:35] <Menzador> ((So does that mean we have to speak Chinese and write in pinyin? Lol))
[13:37] <chenwenbin_> This channel is English only?
[13:37] <ikevin> yes
[13:38] <Aurorasaura> Would anyone be able to help me... I have Ubuntu server 16.04 and every day , sometimes a few times a day I have to reset my router. All my other computers work fine I have no idea what is going on
[13:38] <BluesKaj> chenwenbin_, yes
[13:38] <ikevin> chenwenbin_, so you can find other official channels in other language
[13:38] <chenwenbin_> oh! I`sm sooy for my rudness before
[13:38] <BluesKaj> chenwenbin_, join #ubunt-cn
[13:39] <nicomachus> #ubuntu-cn
[13:39] <Aurorasaura> Networking works fine it's just the internet that does not work
[13:39] <twicky> exit
[13:39] <BluesKaj> chenwenbin_, correction , join #ubuntu-cn
[13:40] <yao_ziyuan> i have a desktop pc running ubuntu 16.10 and a laptop running windows 10. both support bluetooth and wifi. how do i share a folder wirelessly between them?
[13:41] <cesdo> where is pidgin logs?
[13:42] <ikevin> yao_ziyuan, you can share folder using samba
[13:42] <blackflow> Aurorasaura: what exactly is the problem? why do you have to reset the router?
[13:42] <ivan> yao_ziyuan: yeah, I use samba for that
[13:42] <ikevin> cesdo, you mean conversation history?
[13:42] <ivan> yao_ziyuan: you can go either way with linux mounting a windows share or windows mounting a linux share
[13:43] <Aurorasaura> I have no internet on said machine till I reset the router blackflow
[13:43] <yao_ziyuan> ok guys, will dig it
[13:43] <Aurorasaura> All my other computers work fine
[13:44] <blackflow> Aurorasaura: and then you have it for a while and then internet connectivity disappears?
[13:44] <ikevin> cesdo, ~/.purple/logs
[13:45] <BluesKaj> yao_ziyuan, in windows install ext2fsd, in linus you have networking in the file manger
[13:45] <Aurorasaura> Yes blackflow , Mostly I have to reset it in the morning.
[13:45] <Aurorasaura> But sometimes its 2 -3 times a day
[13:45] <BluesKaj> in linux
[13:46] <blackflow> Aurorasaura: and how does this internet connectivity loss presents itself?
[13:48] <Aurorasaura> I do a lot of torrents for work and the first sign is they are not uploading/downloading. Second I try to ping somewhere and nothing responds.
[13:49] <blackflow> Aurorasaura: ping by hostname, ip address, or both?
[13:50] <ad> ioria, ok its done -> update , upgrade, dist-upgrade . uname -r is now = <IP_ADDRESS>-generic, again same error, low grahice mode.
[13:50] <Aurorasaura> both
[13:50] <blackflow> Aurorasaura: and instead of resetting the router, did you try restarting your network connection?
[13:51] <blackflow> Aurorasaura: is it wireless or wired?
[13:51] <ioria> ad  can you open a console now ?
[13:51] <Aurorasaura> Wired and yes I have tried the ifdown ifup , service restart ect.
[13:52] <kitoy> aside from 16.04.1 is there a 16.04 only release?
[13:52] <ad> ioria, : yes, but through recovery mode , not by ctrl+alt+f1
[13:52] <ikonia> it's 16.04.2 now
[13:52] <nicomachus> is there an easy way to delete duplicate files in a directory?
[13:52] <diskin> hi all, after some updates I noticed that my Logitech C270 webcam produces yellowish picture. it used to be more correct before. anyone noticed the same?
[13:52] <blackflow> Aurorasaura: do you get an ip address when you restart? Can you ping other machines in the LAN?
[13:52] <arfandi_nasution> Hi All,
[13:53] <ioria> ad  it's not normal that you can't open a console, i suspect the issue it's elsewhere
[13:53] <blackflow> nicomachus: duplicate by what criteria? surely not filename... :)
[13:53] <Aurorasaura> I have not tried to ping other machines on the lan actually. And my machine has a static ip
[13:53] <nicomachus> blackflow: yes, filename. I duped *almost* my entire music directory while trying to backup...
[13:54] <Aurorasaura> it is outside of the DHCP pool of the router
[13:54] <blackflow> nicomachus: I don't think you understand. you can't have two files with the same name. so i'm asking what's the duplication criteria? how do you determine they're duplicate?
[13:54] <ad> ioria, : ctrl+alt+f1 or f2 ... opens the console and gives login prompt, I put username then password, as soon as i presses enter screen clears and again puts the login prompt
[13:54] <nicomachus> blackflow: but some advanced functionality would be cool. I have some MP3's that are dupes of FLACs, and I'd love to keep the FLAC and delete the MP3
[13:55] <ioria> ad  yes, not normal
[13:55] <ioria> ad  something broken
[13:55] <ioria> ad  did you correcly set up username and password ?
[13:55] <blackflow> Aurorasaura: that could be the reason, if the router drops rules for ips not in the dhcp table. otherwise, if you can ping other machines and not internet, and you're sure it's not dns, everything points to a problem with the router.
[13:56] <blackflow> nicomachus: only if you listen to them and write down which are dupes
[13:56] <nicomachus> blackflow: pastebinning the whole tree, uno momento
[13:56] <blackflow> nicomachus: no need
[13:56] <Aurorasaura> blackflow, it also did the same thing when I had the machine setup on DHCP
[13:57] <ikevin> Aurorasaura, does "traceroute <IP_ADDRESS>" show it block when contacting your router?
[13:57] <Aurorasaura> I am sorry ikevin .. I don't know what that means
[13:59] <ikevin> Aurorasaura, do a "traceroute <IP_ADDRESS>" and tell us what is the IP where it hang
[13:59] <nicomachus> blackflow: yea, nvm. I'm just going through the tree and looking for dupes and then deleting them.
[14:00] <ad> ioria, : yes correct ones
[14:01] <ducasse> nicomachus: something like easytag or puddletag might be able to do that for you, based on tags or whatever
[14:02] <ad> ioria, : shall i try another disro I have a debian iso usb
[14:02] <Aurorasaura> I did find in dmesg [74960.361054] TCP: request_sock_TCP: Possible SYN flooding on port 6881. Sending cookies.  Check SNMP counters.
[14:04] <alkisg> ad, how much ram do you have?
[14:04] <blackflow> Aurorasaura: that's the torrents, but isn't indicative of your problem.
[14:04] <ioria> ad  when did you get 'Low graphic mode', before or after trying to login ?
[14:05] <blackflow> Aurorasaura: bottom line, when that happens again you need to define: 1) do you have an ip, 2) can you ping machines in LAN, 3) can you ping out by ip, 4) does dns work, 5) traceroute or mtr a public ip and see where the traffic drops
[14:05] <ad> ioria, : it has 2 gb ram, low graphics mode message is shown before login
[14:06] <Aurorasaura> Lol how do I initiate a traceroute on the server ?
[14:06] <alkisg> ad, do you have a live cd or usb stick to boot it with?
[14:06] <ad> yes i have
[14:06] <ad> ioria, yes i do
[14:06] <alkisg> ad, ok, do so and then join the channel
[14:06] <ad> ok
[14:06] <alkisg> ad, note this is not ioria
[14:06] <blackflow> Aurorasaura: man traceroute, or apt-get install mtr-tiny
[14:06] <ioria> ad  you can try to reinstall ubuntu-desktop from livecd or recovery
[14:07] <alkisg> ad, I'm suggesting that you boot with the live cd, and then use kvm to boot your installation to see if it's a problem with graphics or something else
[14:07] <ad> alkisg, oops sorry
[14:07] <ioria> ad  the question was from alkisg
[14:07] <alkisg> ad, I believe that the problem isn't in graphics drivers, if you can't login to vt1
[14:07] <Aurorasaura> Ah. thank you all for the help. This should give me enough ammo to get started
[14:08] <blackflow> Aurorasaura: also don't forget to ping your gateway/router
[14:08] <blackflow> Aurorasaura: if you can ping it, but there's no traffic to outside, then it's definitely the router
[14:08] <ioria> ad when did you download the iso  ?
[14:08] <blackflow> Aurorasaura: after you've made sure default route is properly set, check netstat -rn
[14:09] <Aurorasaura> Awesome blackflow  thank you guys!
[14:09] <ad> ioria, : it is an old iso i had dont remember exactly.
[14:10] <arfandi_nasution> Indonesian anyone here
[14:11] <ioria> ad reboot in recovery with network
[14:11] <ducasse> !id | arfandi_nasution
[14:12] <ad> ioria, in a minute
[14:15] <ad> ioria, : i am there
[14:15] <ioria> ad apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[14:15] <ad> ioria, ok
[14:15] <alkisg> ad, you are in recovery, and not in the live cd, right?
[14:16] <ad> ioria, done
[14:16] <ad> ioria, Yes i am in recovery
[14:16] <ioria> alkisg, ad ^
[14:16] <alkisg> Haha
[14:16] <alkisg> ad, see who is asking what, there's a name in front :D
[14:16] <ioria> alkisg, what's your opinion ?
[14:16] <alkisg> ioria: I would go for the live cd option, to try to boot the image with kvm
[14:17] <alkisg> I suspect it's broken
[14:17] <alkisg> And set a password too
[14:17] <ad> ioria, alkisg , I am sorry, my mistake
[14:17] <alkisg> ad, can you try this now?
[14:17] <alkisg> su - username
[14:17] <alkisg> Where username is your username
[14:17] <alkisg> But run this 2 times
[14:17] <alkisg> In the second time, it'll ask for your password
[14:17] <alkisg> Do you see any error messages while doing that?
[14:17] <ioria> ad you're not using autologin, right ?
[14:18] <ad> alkisg, yes there is error : Unable to cd to 'hom/ad'
[14:18] <alkisg> ad, here's a start
[14:18] <alkisg> Do you have a separate partition for /home?
[14:19] <ioria> ad  ls /home
[14:19] <ioria> ad  do you see your home folder ?
[14:19] <alkisg> Or this: (lsblk --fs; cat /etc/fstab) | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:19] <alkisg> This will describe the whole situation better...
[14:19] <ad> ioria, ls /home gives -> ad
[14:20] <ioria> ad  ls  -l /home    paste the entire line
[14:21] <ioria> ad  then do what alkisg suggested
[14:21] <ad> alkisg, http://termbin.com/ybkv
[14:22] <alkisg> ad: (ls -l /home; getent passwd ad) | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:22] <arfandi_nasution> ok
[14:23] <ad> ioria, ls -l /home -> tota 4 and in next line drwxr-xr-x 2 ad ad 4096 Apr 4 14:57 ad
[14:23] <ioria> ad  this now    (ls -l /home; getent passwd ad) | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:25] <ad> ioria, : termbin.com/idtp
[14:25] <tsglove> blackflow, I am making progress.  I have a Ubuntu 16.04 Server setup as gateway (with the rules from your link), and this machine also does DHCP.  There is another machine getting an IP from her, and it is unable to   ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:25] <tsglove> yet if from the Ubuntu gateway I ping the machine    ping <IP_ADDRESS>    , then the    .89.10  machine can immediately ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:25] <ioria> ad   did you use the automatic partitioning or make a custom one ?
[14:26] <tsglove> The link for the gateway rules: http://serverfault.com/questions/564866/how-to-setup-linux-server-as-a-router-with-nat
[14:26] <alkisg> ad, you mistyped the "getent passwd ad" line. Anyway, what is the exact message when you run "su - ad" two times?
[14:26] <ad> ioria, custom one
[14:27] <alkisg> ad, also, do this: dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:27] <ioria> ad   parted -l | | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:27] <ad> alkisg, : -> Unable to cd to '/home/ad'
[14:27] <ioria> ad   sorry, parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:28] <EriC^^> ad: ls -ld /home
[14:28] <alkisg> ad, did you do anything weird like changing home permissions? ^
[14:28] <ioria> drwxr-xr-x 2 ad ad 4096 Apr 4 14:57 ad
[14:28] <ad> alkisg, : dmesg one -> termbin.com/5elx
[14:28] <alkisg> ioria: home, not home/ad
[14:28] <ioria> oh, right
[14:29] <alkisg> ioria: i.e. maybe he did chmod 700 /home or something...
[14:29] <ioria> EriC^^, you know what 'D' means here ? http://termbin.com/ybkv
[14:29] <EriC^^> nope, it's just a label i think
[14:29] <ioria> thanx
[14:29] <ad> ioria, : parted one -> termbin.com/106j
[14:29] <Azulflame> Label (with a couple of exceptions) is meaningless
[14:30] <EriC^^> the home partition is odd though, his "ad" dir is empty (just 2 links in the ls -l line)
[14:30] <ioria> ad not working
[14:30] <Azulflame> hm. I got a 404 for his home pastebin
[14:30] <ad> EriC^^, D is a label
[14:30] <alkisg> He doesn't have a separate /home partition
[14:31] <alkisg> D is an unused partition
[14:31] <ioria> ad    sudo  parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:31] <EriC^^> alkisg: maybe that's his home partition? his user dir seems empty
[14:31] <alkisg> EriC^^: it's not in fstab, and he should still be able to login with an empty home dir, but he only showed /home/ad, not the contents of /home/ad/
[14:32] <ad> ioria, : termbin.com/e169
[14:32] <ioria> can someone open his link ?
[14:32] <EriC^^> nope
[14:32] <Azulflame> what is with termbin doing constant 404s for me? somethign up with their site?
[14:32] <EriC^^> nope it's working for me (termbin)
[14:33] <ikevin> ioria, no
[14:33] <ioria> thnx everyone
[14:33] <axisys> how do I get more info about this lvm encryption?
[14:33] <axisys> $ cat /etc/crypttab
[14:33] <axisys> sda5_crypt UUID=63cabc70-2ea0-439d-92ec-e4c22d34cef4 none luks,discard
[14:33] <ioria> ad   do you have output when you run    parted -l  ?
[14:34] <alkisg> ad, after running `su - ad`, do you see a prompt like "ad@yourpc"?
[14:34] <alkisg> ad, if so, can you try "cd /home" there?
[14:34] <alkisg> ad, I mean, it should be "ad@yourpc" instead of "root@yourpc"
[14:34] <alkisg> Is it?
[14:35] <ad> alkisg,  no i get - Unable to cd to '/home/ad'
[14:35] <alkisg> ad, and then what, "root@yourpc"?
[14:35] <alkisg> My prompt is like this: alkisg@mycomputer:~$
[14:35] <ad> alkisg, yes prompt is root@mypc
[14:36] <alkisg> OK, do this: cd /home/ad
[14:36] <alkisg> Does that work?
[14:36] <ad> alkisg, yes prompt is root@mypc:~#
[14:36] <nanodrone> what are the ubuntu equivalents of check disk and device manager from windows?
[14:36] <nanodrone> are there any standard apps?
[14:36] <Azulflame> fsck for chkdsk
[14:36] <ikevin> nanodrone, fsck and gparted
[14:36] <ioria> ad   do you have output when you run    parted -l  ?
[14:37] <Azulflame> Device manager (not just partitions) would be lspci to view, and stuff should populate under /dev
[14:37] <nanodrone> gparted is just disks, i'm talking about some app that shows a list of all installed devices and drivers (?)
[14:37] <Azulflame> lspci
[14:37] <nanodrone> so there's no app?
[14:37] <alkisg> lshw
[14:37] <Azulflame> but lspci doesn't interact, just display
[14:37] <tgm4883> There is
[14:37] <ikevin> oh yes sorry, bad reading :x
[14:37] <ikevin> dmidecode maybe more complete
[14:37] <nanodrone> someone asked me that question today and i had no answer :(
[14:37] <Azulflame> nanodrone: for usb stuff, lsusb. for on-the-motherboard stuff, it's lspci
[14:38] <nanodrone> i know about the lshw lspci /dev/ stuff
[14:38] <ikevin> nanodrone, dmidecode
[14:38] <nanodrone> i wish there was an app (maybe there is)?
[14:38] <ad> ok guys tell me one thing, I have two partitions in my harddrive and The partition with label 'D' has some data in it, If i just reinstll ubuntu with automatic setup and partitioning does it formats or overwrites the data? if not I can reinstall the ubuntu again
[14:38] <Azulflame> ad, hold on
[14:38] <Azulflame> have you mounted the D partition?
[14:38] <Azulflame> what's on it?
[14:38] <tgm4883> There's a graphical one similiar to device manager, but IDK what it's called
[14:38] <alkisg> lsblk said it's not mounted
[14:38] <ioria> ad   automatic will reformat your disk , yes
[14:38] <Azulflame> since you're root, # cd /
[14:39] <Azulflame> # mount /dev/sdXY /mnt
[14:39] <Azulflame> # cd /mnt
[14:39] <Azulflame> # ls
[14:39] <ioria> ad   but i'd like to see your   parted -l scheme
[14:39] <ad> Azulflame, ok done
[14:39] <ad> Azulflame,gives me a list of directories
[14:39] <blorpa> hi
[14:39] <Azulflame> well, ls -a | <that termbin command that ends in 9999>
[14:39] <ioria> ad   like what ?
[14:40] <Azulflame> ls -a | nc termbin 9999
[14:40] <Azulflame> ls -a | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:40] <ad> ioria, parted -l scheme - > termbin.com/2x3r
[14:40] <alkisg> ad, so, the problem is in your authentication, `su - ad` should have been able to log you in even without access to your /home.
[14:40] <alkisg> Do you remember messing up with pam?
[14:41] <alkisg> Or installing some special security plugin somewhere?
[14:41] <ad> Azulflame, ls -a -> termbin.com/yhxe
[14:41] <ioria> ad   maybe your home is in /dev/sda5 that it's not mounted ?
[14:41] <Azulflame> ad, preferably in the partition you mounted
[14:41] <Azulflame> so mound the data partition, then ls -a in it
[14:41] <alkisg> (btw I just tried logging in with /home=700, and it works fine, with a message that HOME isn't available, so the partitions don't matter)
[14:41] <ad> alkisg, no i just installed on this machine today itself, No other setup.
[14:42] <ioria> ad  mount /dev/sda5 /mnt   then cd /mnt
[14:42] <ikevin> ad, try: su ad && cat /var/log/auth.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:42] <nanodrone> ikevin, dmidecode what's that?
[14:42] <alkisg> ad, also paste the output of this, which you mistyped last time: getent passwd ad
[14:43] <ikevin> nanodrone, that a tool who probe all hw
[14:43] <ad> alkisg, : last time misstyped one -> termbin.com/gt6a
[14:43] <ad> ioria, yes mounted and cd into mnt
[14:44] <ioria> ad  what you see in there ?
[14:44] <ad> ioria, : it is the Partition with the label D and with the data in it
[14:44] <alkisg> ad, finally, do this: su - ad; tail /var/log/auth.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:44] <ioria> ad  there is a directory  you can cd in it ?
[14:45] <nanodrone> + is there an official linux/ubuntu drivers website where i can look up drivers by name?
[14:45] <ad> ikevin, i tried  it gives error -> Cannot execute /bin/bash: permission denied
[14:46] <alkisg> Heh
[14:46] <ikevin> ad, that maybe why you can't login :)
[14:46] <alkisg> How would he have a recovery mode without bash?
[14:46] <ikevin> ad, ls -l /bin/bash | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:46] <nicechap> hello is I set up a printer using the lpd URI, e.g.: 'lpd://<IP_ADDRESS>/auto', what would be the significance of the 'auto' in that uri?
[14:47] <nicechap> is => if
[14:47] <ikevin> alkisg, zsh for example
[14:47] <Azulflame> what's the fix for that? boot disk, mount + chroot and set /bin/bash to 777?
[14:47] <alkisg> ikevin: no, recovery has #!/bin/bash hardcoded
[14:47] <alkisg> Something strange going on... unless it's mode=700
[14:47] <ad> ikevin, : termbin.com/xhgs
[14:47] <Azulflame> what if was 600 but he hasn't rebooted since?
[14:48] <eaglenb> hi
[14:48] <ioria> he did a custom partition but his fstab it's standard
[14:48] <ad> ioria, yes I can cd in directories
[14:48] <eaglenb> is all the conversations cripted?
[14:48] <alkisg> (05:44:39 μμ) alkisg: ad, finally, do this: su - ad; tail /var/log/auth.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:48] <ioria> ad explore them.... what's in there ?
[14:49] <ioria> ad my opirion (surely wrofng) is that you forgot the mounpoint for home
[14:49] <ad> alkisg, : it gives error Unable to cd to /home/ad & tail : cannot open '/var/log/auth.log' for reading : No such file or directory Use netcat.
[14:49] <auronandace> !irclog | eaglenb
[14:49] <ad> ioria, can i add mountpoint now ?
[14:49] <ikevin> ad, alkisg: strange, possible he's on busybox?
[14:50] <ioria> ad  run ls -a on those directories ....
[14:50] <alkisg> ikevin: nc isn't available in busybox, so that shouldn't be it...
[14:51] <alkisg> ad, so if you run just this, you get an error? tail /var/log/auth.log
[14:51] <nicomachus> ducasse: easytag can do the tags, but can it remove dupes? anyway, I just finished.
[14:51] <ad> ioria, the partition you told to mount (sda5) is not the system partition. IT is a partition with the old data in it . which i wanted to save. Now if i ls -a then it whos the folders in it
[14:51] <Azulflame> nicomachus: not that I'm aware of. But it's been a while since I last used it
[14:52] <imbezol> does ubuntu change the control character for "screen" during a do-release-upgrade?
[14:52] <ad> alkisg, yes i get error
[14:52] <ioria> ad   so you saved your old home on /dev/sda5 to remount on the new install ?
[14:52] <ikevin> alkisg, there's mini-netcat on busybox
[14:52] <alkisg> ad, what's the output of this? cat /etc/issue?
[14:53] <ad> alkisg, "tail: cannot open '/var/log/auth.log' for reading: No such file or Directory"
[14:53] <ikevin> alkisg, busybox nc
[14:53] <alkisg> ikevin: the "nc" command isn't available in busybox, it's not in the busybox-static package that initrd uses
[14:53] <alkisg> Ubuntu doesn't build it that way
[14:53] <ad> alkisg, Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS \n \l"
[14:54] <alkisg> ad, you selected "networking" and then "root" from the recovery mode?
[14:54] <ikevin> ad, ls -l /var/log/ | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:54] <ad> alkisg,  yes
[14:54] <alkisg> Do what ikevin just said ^
[14:54] <ad> ikevin, termbin.com/gknr
[14:55] <ad> ikevin, alkisg ->  termbin.com/gknr
[14:55] <alkisg> ad, does this work? apt --yes install x11vnc
[14:55]  * alkisg is curious and won't go for a walk until his curiosity is satisfied... :D
[14:55] <ioria> lol
[14:56] <ikevin> lol
[14:56] <ikevin> ad, cat /var/log/faillog | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:57] <TEst> hi
[14:58] <alkisg> (05:55:19 μμ) alkisg: ad, does this work? apt --yes install x11vnc
[14:58] <saymoo> ih
[14:58] <ikevin> ad, cat /var/log/faillog | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:58] <ikevin> hi Guest91214
[14:58] <ad> alkisg, ikevin ioria : sorry laptop battery died.
[14:58] <Guest91214> does somebody want do do a ddos attack to google?
[14:58] <nacc> !ot | Guest91214
[14:58] <ad> alkisg, yes it x11vnc installed
[14:59] <alkisg> ad, does this give you a graphical terminal? xinit
[14:59] <saymoo> Guest: i guess somebody (somewhere in the world) would want to do that.. but none of us anyway. period.
[15:00] <ad> alkisg, yes i did gave me a small white colored terminal
[15:00] <alkisg> ad, can you share your screen with me so that I check faster? x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
[15:00] <ad> ikevin, it gives "Use netcat"
[15:00] <alkisg> You'll be seeing what I do
[15:01] <ad> alkisg, sure
[15:02] <ikevin> alkisg, can i join the party to see?
[15:02] <alkisg> ikevin: sure, port forward 5500, run xvnc4viewer -listen, and PM me your ip
[15:02] <alkisg> ...as long as ad manages to run it
[15:03] <Azulflame> keep in mind that this would give alkisg full access to your computer w/out you being able to see what he's doing
[15:04] <Azulflame> only do that if you trust him
[15:04] <ad> alkisg, nops it is stuck, cannot type in it
[15:04] <Azulflame> or her
[15:04] <alkisg> Azulflame: that's not true
[15:04] <alkisg> He'll be seeing the same screen
[15:04] <alkisg> ad, press ctrl+c
[15:04] <Azulflame> ah
[15:04] <alkisg> Maybe you misstyped it?
[15:04] <Azulflame> I thought xrd
[15:04] <Azulflame> *xrdp
[15:04] <ad> Azulflame, its ok , The data on it is not very important
[15:04] <alkisg> ad, check the line again, x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
[15:06] <ad> alkisg, i rebooted and retried xinit - > it opens a small white ternimal but it is stuck I cannot type in it
[15:06] <alkisg> ad, move the mouse over it
[15:06] <Herbalist> good afternoon, i have 2 different Ubuntu Software Centers .. which one is better and which one should i keep ?
[15:06] <alkisg> ad, you can't type if the mouse isn't over that window
[15:07] <saymoo> Herbalist, which ones do you have?
[15:07] <saymoo> (names)
[15:07] <equipo04> Hello
[15:07] <Herbalist> saymoo .. one is called "Ubuntu Software", and one is called "Ubuntu Software Center"
[15:07] <ad> alkisg, ok now gimme a minute
[15:08] <ad> alkisg, done
[15:08] <equipo04> Alguien habla español? :v
[15:08] <alkisg> ad, I didn't receive any connections, did you type it properly? Did you see any warnings?
[15:08] <ikevin> !es
[15:08] <ikevin> !es | equipo04
[15:08] <Herbalist> both have the same icon , an orange suitcase with a white A inside
[15:08] <alkisg> ad, press ctrl+c to interrupt it and try again if needed
[15:09] <saymoo> Herbalist, but they look different once running (the application itself i mean)
[15:09] <saymoo> ?
[15:09] <equipo04> Spanish?
[15:09] <Herbalist> saymoo.. yes they look slightly different qua GUI
[15:10] <ad> alkisg, : sorry i misstyped it
[15:10] <ad> done now
[15:10] <alkisg> ad, now type this there: bg
[15:11] <Herbalist> Ubuntu Software Center is version 15.12 .. and Ubuntu Software is version 3.20.1
[15:11] <Aurorasaura> What are the + and -  for on service --status-all?
[15:13] <saymoo> Herbalist, the one that looks like this is the updated version of the software center (originally called gnome software)... http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/ubuntu-software-center-new-in-16.04.jpg
[15:13] <k1l_> Herbalist: the new (correct) software center is "ubuntu-software" which is a rebranded "gnome-software"
[15:14] <Menzador> Herbalist: Ubuntu Software (the GNOME Software fork) is correct. Ubuntu Software Centre is deprecated.
[15:14] <Herbalist> ahh thank you saymoo k1l_ and Menzador
[15:14] <ikevin> alkisg, check /home mode
[15:15] <Herbalist> then i'll deinstall both , and then install "gnome-software"
[15:16] <alkisg> ikevin: even /etc/sudoers says it's not there, while it is...
[15:16] <alkisg> File system something, but what...
[15:17] <ikevin> alkisg, very stange !
[15:17] <saymoo> Herbalist, i hope the deprecated one is easily uninstallable, because of some dependencies.. that have dependencies, which on their turn have dependencies..
[15:17] <saymoo> lol
[15:17] <saymoo> (dependency hell)
[15:18] <g105b> Hey guys, I'm using a Qt application that's trying to open a new browser tab, but my default browser chromium-browser isn't picking up the request. Is there any way I can monitor for the signal it is emitting to see the URL it is trying to open?
[15:18] <Herbalist> lol
[15:18] <ioria> alkisg, can you check /etc/environment ?
[15:19] <alkisg> ioria:  PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games"
[15:19] <ioria> tx
[15:19] <uniTosch> hello, using ubuntu 14.04  I can't select a different desktop in lightdm as my normal user, but I can do that as my admin user.  once i select my normal user from the dropdown in lightdm, the session select dropdown locks to gnome.
[15:19] <Herbalist> Synaptic will take care of it ..
[15:19] <ikevin> alkisg, ls -la /
[15:20] <Herbalist> uniTosch.. there is already a version 16.04
[15:20] <Herbalist> LTS
[15:20] <k1l_> uniTosch: strange
[15:21] <ioria> ad still there ?
[15:21] <ad> yup
[15:21] <uniTosch> Herbalist: I'm aware, but it's not my jod to dist upgrade those.
[15:21] <uniTosch> * job
[15:21] <ikevin> alkisg, perms look ok
[15:21] <Herbalist> ah ic
[15:21] <alkisg> ikevin: I think you nailed it
[15:21] <ad> ioria, yes i m
[15:21] <ioria> ad  what kind of username did you choose ?  like Tom Smith ?
[15:22] <k1l_> uniTosch: but login works for that user?
[15:22] <uniTosch> k1l_: yep
[15:22] <alkisg> ad, ioria, ikevin, the issue was / = 700
[15:22] <ad> ikevin, no username was -ad
[15:22] <alkisg> With chmod 755 /, it got solved
[15:22] <ioria> alkisg, really ?
[15:22] <ikevin> alkisg, nice !
[15:22] <alkisg> Yeah
[15:22] <alkisg> We were looking at /home, but... :D
[15:22] <k1l_> uniTosch: what users is that user in?
[15:22] <alkisg> ad, it's up to you know to find out how this happened
[15:22] <genii> ad: The username starts with a dash?
[15:22] <ioria> good
[15:23] <ad> genii, no its ad
[15:23] <ioria> genii, too short ?
[15:23] <uniTosch> k1l_: groups?    user  tty  dialout  netdev  nopasswdlogin
[15:23] <genii> ioria: Nah, you can even have 1 letter usernames
[15:23] <ioria> genii, thanx
[15:24] <k1l_> uniTosch: ah, maybe its the nopasswdlogin thing
[15:24] <ioria> let alkisg work
[15:24] <alkisg> I think it's solved now
[15:24] <alkisg> Everything fine, just mode of root = 700
[15:24] <alkisg> He'll tell us after reboot if that's true
[15:24] <Deeno> My discover software installer has trouble with its list. And I only have one flash install drive.
[15:24] <Deeno> How do I fix discover?
[15:24] <ad> yay
[15:25] <alkisg> ad, any idea how the mode of root got to 700? That's something you did... not ubuntu
[15:25] <ad> alkisg, ikevin ioria genii - > thanks to all I am able to login now
[15:26] <ad> alkisg, NO i didnt do anytihng special
[15:26] <alkisg> ad, strange...
[15:26] <ad> alkisg, no chmod
[15:26] <alkisg> ad, anyway, have fun, bb!
[15:26] <uniTosch> k1l_: neat, you were right. thanks a lot.
[15:26] <ad> alkisg, Thanks brother
[15:26] <ioria> ad good job
[15:26] <k1l_> uniTosch: np
[15:26] <ad> ioria, thanks a lot ioria
[15:27] <ioria> ad no problem
[15:27] <ad> gudnight everyone
[15:27] <ioria> brb
[15:27] <lovely> gud night guys
[15:27] <nanodrone> have you guys noticed how hardware support has improved in the recent years..
[15:28] <Deeno> Oh the joy of slow computer shrinkage advacement. everybody has to make better software instead of wasting system resources.
[15:29] <Deeno> How do I fix the Discover's installer list?
[15:29] <neox> hi
[15:29] <technochips> hello
[15:29] <nacc> Deeno: "Discover"? "installer list"? I don't know what you are referring to with either of those
[15:30] <ArneVogel> Hello
[15:31] <steve_hope> hiya
[15:31] <Deeno> Discover is Kubuntu's installer package. I believe Software is Ubuntu's installer package.
[15:31] <k1l_> Deeno: you might better ask in #kubuntu for such specifics
[15:31] <nacc> Deeno: by 'installer' do you mean package installation. 'installer' is something you use to install the OS itself in Ubuntu terms
[15:32] <ArneVogel> I am a little lost. I installed a letsencrypt cert with certbot on my ubuntu vps and now I am getting a "AH01990: PRNG still contains insufficient entropy!" error in my apache error logs. Does anybody have anybody what that error is/ how to fix it?
[15:32] <nacc> Deeno: also in the repositories, i only see a 'discover' for doing hardware discovery
[15:32] <ArneVogel> I tried every solution suggested googling the problem and I am still getting the error
[15:33] <Deeno> Software Center - Discover?
[15:33] <scottjl> ArneVogel: install haveged
[15:33] <Deeno> How do I fix the software center?
[15:34] <steve_hope> from terminal sudo apt-get update
[15:35] <ivan> ArneVogel: is that error actually preventing you from getting a cert, or is that just something apache likes to complain about?
[15:35] <ArneVogel> ivan installed the cert worked
[15:35] <ArneVogel> fine
[15:35] <saymoo> or sudo apt update
[15:35] <saymoo> (apt-get is not needed anymore)
[15:36] <ArneVogel> but apache is complaining
[15:36] <ArneVogel> now
[15:36] <nishttal> any samba experts here?? I'
[15:36] <ArneVogel> [Tue Apr 04 15:34:14.864191 2017] [ssl:warn] [pid 20747:tid<PHONE_NUMBER>93888] AH01990: PRNG still contains insufficient entropy!
[15:36] <scottjl> ArneVogel: apt install haveged
[15:36] <nishttal> i've tried to follow the online instructions many times but windows keep complaining for different reasons
[15:37] <nishttal> if someone knows of a goto guide.. i'll be obliged!
[15:37] <ArneVogel> scottjl I installed it before and I am still got the error
[15:37] <ivan> ArneVogel: that's a warning that you can probably ignore if your SSL is working
[15:37] <ivan> ArneVogel: PRNGs will at times contain insufficient entropy
[15:37] <scottjl> ArneVogel: did you restart apache?
[15:37] <ArneVogel> yes
[15:37] <ArneVogel> ivan I cant access the site in browser tho
[15:37] <ArneVogel> arnevogel.com
[15:37] <ArneVogel> ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR
[15:38] <ArneVogel> scottjl I also did some "random" test and it was in the "ok" range
[15:38] <ArneVogel> like 999 out of 1000 were good in like 4 runs
[15:40] <me2bled> hi
[15:40] <me2bled> i have an issue after upgrading to 16.10
[15:41] <ArneVogel> ivan, scottjl the site also worked fine before installing the cert so I dont think I fucked any of the setup up
[15:42] <scottjl> i've had issues with letsencrypt.
[15:42] <j4g0> nishttal: i'm by no means a samba expert but i don't think it's quite clear yet, what you are trying to accomplish :)
[15:42] <scottjl> i ditched it
[15:42] <ArneVogel> "cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail" is 1700
[15:43] <kevr> it
[15:43] <scottjl> something with your apache config is draining it out too fast. did you alter the ssl config?
[15:45] <ArneVogel> scottjl I havent touched the stuff certbot created
[15:46] <scottjl> no but did you alter what cyphers apache uses or anything?
[15:46] <choki> SimonNL: hello
[15:46] <ArneVogel> scottjl since I have no Idea what you just asked I assume no
[15:47] <scottjl> heh ok. well i'm out of ideas. sorry. maybe ask on the apache channel
[15:47] <blorpa> hi
[15:48] <ArneVogel> scottjl yeah asked there to.
[15:48] <ArneVogel> scottjl thanks for your help tho :)
[15:49] <scottjl> ArneVogel: np. if you installed haveged you have tons of entropy, as long as it isn't being drained out faster than the pool fills. which is what it seems like in your case. why, i don't know.
[15:50] <steve_hope> do some other work for a bit
[15:51] <steve_hope> i think it needs activity to refill
[15:51] <steve_hope> ie, open a text doc, tyoe crap, save
[15:51] <steve_hope> look at a couple images
[15:51] <scottjl> haveged fills up in a second or so
[15:52] <COBRA|2> k1l_ fack you :)
[15:53] <choki> O_o
[15:54] <KaZuMiBhV> German or Englich in this Channel ?
[15:54] <ikonia> English
[15:55] <KaZuMiBhV> Thx
[15:55] <scottjl> try #ubuntu-de
[15:56] <walidm> hello
[15:56] <saymoo> hello
[16:01] <rise> ikonia fuck you mey be i try to us arch linux your sucks big big lames tragedy
[16:01] <tgm4883> ...
[16:01] <saymoo> oh my
[16:01] <saymoo> someone need soap
[16:01] <saymoo> needs*
[16:01] <tgm4883> yea that wasn't going to end well
[16:02] <scottjl> methinks error is between keyboard and chair.
[16:02] <saymoo> kebkac
[16:02] <saymoo> p*
[16:02] <saymoo> lol
[16:02] <saymoo> pebkac
[16:03] <BluesKaj> looks a lot was lost in translation there :-)
[16:03] <saymoo> hehe..
[16:03] <saymoo> i guess
[16:03] <saymoo> oh well.. he's out...
[16:04] <crayon> is the community just as freaked out about 12.04 EOL as i am?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> not me
[16:05] <scottjl> i haven't run 12 in years
[16:05] <nacc> crayon: you've known it was coming for ... 5 years :)
[16:05] <scottjl> longest breakup notice ever. ;-)
[16:05] <crayon> was it 5 years
[16:06] <crayon> :-|
[16:06] <nicomachus> crayon: well... LTS lifespan is 5 years... so eya
[16:06] <nicomachus> yea*
[16:06] <tgm4883> should we be freaked out about 12.04?
[16:06] <scottjl> psst. get off 16.04 by 2021. just letting you know early.
[16:07] <ivan> heh
[16:07] <zzwinsor> quick question: what's better on a 1.6 dual core with 3 gigs of ram? KDE or XFCE?
[16:07] <mises> when i right click on thunar, an option comes up named "delete" which gets rid of a file permanently without moving it to trash, how can i remove this option?
[16:07] <scottjl> faster? xfce i'd say
[16:07] <Jakethepython> if someone else hosts your email exchange server is there a way to figure out what that server is?
[16:07] <Deeno> how do i get startup disk creator?
[16:08] <ivan> Jakethepython: what does "what the server is" mean
[16:08] <ivan> the software they're using?
[16:08] <mises> can someone help me out?
[16:08] <saymoo> Jakethepython, still busy with exchange and evolution?
[16:08] <saymoo> (as i remember correctly, you asked for it yesterday too)
[16:08] <yordan> ikonia fuck you i am old user 8 yers freenode an us ubuntu 6.04 bann me not only +q amatiors fuck k1l_ :) shame
[16:08] <Jakethepython> Yes the IMAP /POP3 is not open
[16:09] <Jakethepython> so it has to use the exchange server but we have it hosted from X company which i don't know who
[16:09] <scottjl> Jakethepython: whois <your email domain>  ?
[16:09] <Jakethepython> railx.us
[16:10] <Jakethepython> @railx.us
[16:10] <Lorne> Hey guys - newbie here - I need someone to help me understand why a umount command isn't working (mountpoint not found)?
[16:10] <Speed_> Help. I installed an nvidia driver on 16.04 and now it won't boot!
[16:10] <mises> when i right click on thunar, an option comes up named "delete" which gets rid of a file permanently without moving it to trash, how can i remove this option?
[16:10] <ivan> Speed_: where does it fail?
[16:10] <scottjl> Jakethepython: try the command whois railx.us
[16:11] <saymoo> domain itself says nothing.. the hosting of the domain can be done somewhere else.. as the mx hosting
[16:11] <BluesKaj> Speed_,  recommended driver I hope
[16:11] <saymoo> (although it often is the same)
[16:11] <scottjl> Lorne: what are you typing for the command ?
[16:11] <nacc> Lorne: pastebin the command used and output; and mabye the output of `mount`
[16:11] <Speed_> It won't boot . I select ubuntu in bios and I see this grub thing
[16:12] <Speed_> That I have no idea what to do with
[16:12] <Lorne> scottjl  I'm doing sudo umount ~/.gvfs
[16:13] <Lorne> scottjl  - trying to get plex to see a dir on external drive...and found that command in the plex - app store - comments section...don't know what it does - but its supposed to fix the problem
[16:13] <scottjl> Lorne: you don't need that command to see a dir on an external drive. just add it to your library
[16:13] <saymoo> Jakethepython, as i see it, the mail is hosted @ microsoft.. in terms of office365 or something along those services
[16:14] <saymoo> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
[16:14] <saymoo> railx.us.		3600	IN	MX	0 railx-us.mail.eo.outlook.com.
[16:14] <saymoo> railx.us.		3600	IN	MX	0 railx-us.mail.protection.outlook.com.
[16:14] <scottjl> that umount command isn't going to help plex at all
[16:14] <Lorne> scottjl but when I try to add it to the library - plex can't 'see' the folder...it wont let me select it..won't drill into it
[16:14] <Speed_> How can I undo the driver?
[16:15] <levak> 10000 lame k1l_ ip
[16:15] <scottjl> Lorne: where is your external drive mounted/
[16:15] <levak> hahahahahah
[16:15] <levak> east europe
[16:15] <levak> not west buslhits
[16:15] <Lorne> scottjl media/colin/New3T
[16:15] <scottjl> Lorne: and plex won't navigate to /media ?
[16:16] <k1l_> levak: you only show that you have not interest in the ubuntu community and sticking to the community guidelines. so dont blame us that we banned you.
[16:16] <Speed_> Idk anny of the commands with grub
[16:16] <Lorne> it navigates to the main dir of the external drive..but then doesn't show any folders
[16:16] <Speed_> It says it's bash like but it has none of the bash commands
[16:16] <scottjl> Lorne: what are permissions on those folders? it probably doesn't have access
[16:17] <ivan> Speed_: there's a recovery option that might work; just use the arrow keys to select Advanced options, then pick the latest (Recovery) boot
[16:17] <nacc> !recovery | Speed_
[16:18] <Lorne> scottjl yeah...that's probably it...plex see's the drive but can't see any folders in it
[16:18] <scottjl> Lorne: check perms on those folders. that's probably why
[16:19] <Lorne> scottjl what command do I use to change permissions?  CHMOD something...right?
[16:19] <scottjl> Lorne: try: chmod +rx folder
[16:19] <Speed_> Holding down shift did not give me the option for recovery mode
[16:20] <trik> kil_ :)~  lame :)
[16:20] <scottjl> Lorne: you shouldn't have to restart plex, but you will probably have to try to re-add the folder again for it to see the new perms
[16:20] <james_> hi
[16:21] <Speed_> What command should I use to uninstall the nvidia driver?
[16:22] <alkisg> Speed_: what is the last message that you see? Like, grub rescue> ?
[16:22] <Speed_> Grub>_
[16:23] <alkisg> Speed_: do you see "rescue" anywhere there?
[16:23] <nacc> Speed_: you need to be in the recovery shell to fix it, you can't fix it from grub itself
[16:23] <Speed_> No
[16:23] <Lorne_> scottjl OK Tried that command and it still seems to show the drive with nothing in it (within plex)
[16:23] <alkisg> Speed_: but you get no menu at all?
[16:23] <Speed_> Nope
[16:24] <alkisg> Speed_: so you never see something like this, right? https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/select-linux-kernel-in-grub2-boot-loader-on-ubuntu-14.04.png
[16:24] <alkisg> Speed_, do you have a live cd to fix it?
[16:25] <Lorne_> scottjl   Within the comments section of the Ubuntu App store for plex - someone wrote: Out of the box there is an issue with it finding dirrectories with 12.04 but as many Linux users know a bug fix is often  just a google search away.   change to directory you want Plex scan and  sudo umount ~/.gvfs
[16:26] <Speed_> No I didnt
[16:26] <alkisg> Speed_: do you have a live cd or usb stick to fix it?
[16:26] <Speed_> I have my USB installer still
[16:27] <Speed_> Do I need to use it?
[16:28] <Speed_> Also it flashes a message before it shows the grub thing but it's too fast to read
[16:28] <alkisg> Speed_: what happens if you type this there? ls /
[16:28] <gospod`> rufus usb iso boot
[16:29] <Speed_> efi/
[16:29] <alkisg> Speed_: I think there should be a configfile somewhere under that directory, try ls /efi now
[16:29] <gospod`> ikonia woma or men lame
[16:30] <alkisg> And then ls /efi/otherfolders, till you find the configfile
[16:30] <gospod`> woman
[16:30] <alkisg> (anyone knows where grub.cfg is, in efi installations?)
[16:31] <alkisg> Speed_: maybe it's in /efi/grub/grub.cfg
[16:31] <alkisg> Try ls /efi/grub to see
[16:31] <Speed_> ./ ../ grub.cfg?
[16:31] <alkisg> If you find it, then type: configfile /efi/grub/grub.cfg
[16:31] <alkisg> If you don't find it, boot from the live usb stick
[16:32] <Speed_> I found it in ubuntu
[16:32] <golemilameri> opa\
[16:32] <golemilameri> hahahhaah
[16:33] <alkisg> Speed_: configfile /path/to/grub.cfg is supposed to  give you a boot menu like the one that was in the picture I linked above
[16:33] <Speed_> I did the command
[16:34] <alkisg> And?
[16:34] <Speed_> Some stuff flashed now now I just see grub>_
[16:34] <alkisg> Hm, it sounds like your configfile is broken then
[16:34] <alkisg> And you say that holding down shift at that point, doesn't show the menu?
[16:35] <alkisg> Speed_: Try: configfile /path/to/grub.cfg <shift enter>
[16:35] <alkisg> Don't lift shift while pressing enter
[16:35] <alkisg> (left shift)
[16:37] <Speed_> Failure reading sector
[16:38] <alkisg> Speed_: sounds like a disk or file system issue then, use the live usb stick to check the disk
[16:38] <Speed_> Should I use my USB?
[16:38] <alkisg> Yeah
[16:39] <Speed_> I guess try ubuntu and run some utility
[16:39] <alkisg> Is the hard disk ssd?
[16:39] <Speed_> No
[16:40] <Speed_> I can see the drive
[16:40] <golemilameri> Speed_:   just download ubuntu use rufus usb stick boot ty from bio farst boot is ub stick
[16:41] <golemilameri> i use dual boot
[16:42] <golemilameri> 10 an 17.04 beta
[16:42] <golemilameri> win ubuntu
[16:42] <k1l_> golemilameri aka Dreaman aka ivan nikolov do you still want to carry on with this childish troll behaviour evading bans to make noise in this support channel? you are banned and you know ban evading is not tolerated.
[16:43] <golemilameri> i am old user member of ubuntu comunity
[16:43] <Speed_> What utility should I use?
[16:44] <golemilameri> 10 year
[16:44] <k1l_> golemilameri: no. because then you would not be such a  troll and act against the ubuntu code of conduct.
[16:44] <golemilameri> my eng not good but try to hrlp
[16:44] <riidom> Hi all, i created a USB installer on my Win7 laptop, boots fine on laptop. Now I got a new desktop PC today, and trying the USB stick there, the monitor wouldnt receive a signal (connected via HDMI)..any ideas, someone?
[16:44] <golemilameri> help
[16:45] <riidom> I forgot to add,the desktop pc is nake, no OS installd
[16:45] <golemilameri> this is my lapotp new no os
[16:45] <golemilameri> i use 10 and ubuntu
[16:45] <k1l_> golemilameri: you had enough warnings about your behaviour. you got kicked. then banned. and still come back with proxies to make noise and give bad advice. this is not what the ubuntu community wants.
[16:46] <golemilameri> k1l_: why bann +q
[16:46] <golemilameri> simple
[16:48] <k1l_> golemilameri: because you had enough warnings. and this is not the place to talk about bans. and you keep ban evading which shows you have no intention to follow the guidelines. so leave this channel now please. #ubuntu-ops is the place to reveal bans, like its told in the guidelines you even never have read.
[16:48] <tonybag> Hi everyone, Ive a question : I'm reading a script file of my professor, and I don't understand something
[16:49] <Thefirstnizza> Anyone who knows how to disable initial seeding of rtorrent?
[16:49] <golemilameri> you is oper abuser for me
[16:50] <tonybag> What rm pack.txt 1>/dev/null 2>/dev/null means?
[16:50] <leaftype> tonybag, you can post it in a pastebin. Whats you're question?
[16:50] <ivan> riidom: try going into the boot menu on the bios and selecting the usb stick. maybe you need to turn secure boot off too?
[16:50] <Pici> tonybag: redirect the stdout and stderr from rm pack.txt to /dev/null
[16:50] <tonybag> What is the output of rm?
[16:51] <tonybag> I mead it is used to remove and do not show anything
[16:51] <Southern_Gentlem> actually there shouldnt be any but if there is it is quieteed
[16:51] <ivan> tonybag: I don't think rm with default options would write anything to stdout but it can write errors to stdout
[16:51] <ivan> errors to stderr*
[16:51] <riidom> well ivan, i dont get into boot menu - or if I do, I wouldntsee it
[16:51] <CrazySane> tonybag: it redirects standard out (1) and standard error (2) to null - effectively tossing it out
[16:51] <ivan> tonybag: your professor is bad at bash and should have written  rm -f pack.txt
[16:52] <tonybag> Lol
[16:52] <CrazySane> lol @ ivan
[16:52] <ross_> hi, i installed steam but when i open in, it appears only in the  task bar for 5-10 seconds then disappears. Anyone have any ideas?
[16:52] <ivan> riidom: if you can't get into a BIOS setup on your new computer then it's not the fault of a linux USB stick
[16:52] <tonybag> System and device programming professor T.T
[16:52] <ivan> BIOS should always be capable of outputting something to at least one monitor
[16:53] <leaftype> most people are bad at something, and good and very few things. Professors aren't exempt.
[16:53] <riidom> ok guess I have to ask where i bought it:) thx ivan
[16:53] <ivan> riidom: did you press some keys to get into the bios setup
[16:53] <tonybag> Actually this script is used to load a OS from qemu
[16:53] <shame`> k1l_ you shame for ubuntu debian comunity :(
[16:54] <riidom> yes, F10,like mobo manual says
[16:54] <ivan> riidom: you might need to mash it during the boot, or you might need to do a full power cycle, or you might need to plug the monitor into another HDMI port if you've got one
[16:54] <SlutSex123> Pussy
[16:55] <tgm4883> geez, no school today or something?
[16:55] <ivan> riidom: you might also see an error code on a LED on your motherboard that might be useful
[16:55] <CrazySane> seriously.
[16:55] <riidom> oh..didnt know about errorcodes,will check for that
[16:56] <leaftype> on tonybag's case... why would we need '-f' OR transfering stuff to dev/null... wouldn't the file be removed properly even without those?
[16:57] <leaftype> if it's an installation script, then it would have PUT that file there, so there is nothing to... oh wait, I'm stupid.
[16:57] <leaftype> nvm
[16:57] <ivan> without -f it would error out if the file were missing
[16:58] <leaftype> I was thinking there shouldn't be a way for the file to be missing, since the script probably put it there as well
[16:58] <ivan> there are no transactional filesystem operations so anything is possible
[16:59] <ivan> also the one line you pasted suggests the script wasn't written with set -e so maybe the professor noticed that it keeps going when some step fails
[17:00]  * misia chear k1l_ to lame for this channel :)
[17:00] <misia> chears
[17:00] <bonsaitree> How do i know which .png image is used for the network-manager? When i go into /usr/share/icons/ubuntu-mono-light/status/ there are 3 folders there - 16, 22, 24.
[17:00] <misia> nazdrave
[17:02] <geez[m]> tgm4883: no ;)
[17:02] <Whitehat1> Can anyone help me with steganography?
[17:13] <Speed_> I'm in the live USB thing idk what to do next
[17:13] <ivan> purge some nvidia stuff
[17:14] <misia> bios boot farst usb stick
[17:14] <Speed_> Unable to locate package nvidia
[17:15] <nacc> Speed_: how did you install the nvidia driver originally?
[17:15] <misia> my is 940 mx gddr5 4 work
[17:15] <nacc> misia: please stop. it's not helpful.
[17:15] <Speed_> With additional dtivers
[17:15] <graamont> hello, what it means when you update in terminal and after fetched comes a line like this : https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/16.04/main/dists/xenial/InRelease: Signature by key 09D6EF97BFB38E916EF060E756A3DEF863961D39 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)
[17:15] <misia> driver old and new
[17:16] <nacc> graamont: the repository in question is not using a particular secure algorithm (and apt now warns when that is the case)
[17:16] <misia> update manager driver part
[17:16] <misia> settings
[17:16] <nacc> misia: again, please stop.
[17:16] <graamont> nacc what should i do?
[17:17] <nacc> graamont: you can either not use that repository (is it really necessary), or perhaps there is a setting to allow it, if you trust it, or you can complain to the repository owner
[17:18] <tgm4883> complaining to the repository owner is probably the right choice, since it's intel
[17:18] <tsglove> n00b question: If I add rules for iptables, inside /etc/rc.local  .... are they loaded automatically?  Or do I have to restart the service?
[17:18] <graamont> nacc ok but how can i find out which repository is the one causing the trouble?
[17:18] <nacc> graamont: it's the one it says?
[17:19] <nacc> tsglove: no, not automatic, you need to tell iptables about rules
[17:19] <graamont> nacc yes
[17:19] <nacc> graamont: i mean, that's the answer to your question
[17:19] <tgm4883> graamont: it says which one in the error message
[17:19] <tgm4883> graamont: download.01.org
[17:20] <tsglove> nacc, inside /etc/rc.local I have   /sbin/iptables *the rule flags in here*   ....    do I have to "re-load" it?
[17:20] <nacc> tsglove: you have to run those commands, yes -- you don't generally reload /etc/rc.local, but you could run it manually
[17:20] <nacc> (by sourcing it, i guess)
[17:20] <graamont> ummmm ok
[17:20] <graamont> nacc thanks
[17:20] <graamont> tgm4883, thanks
[17:21] <tsglove> ok.  Thanks nacc
[17:23] <graamont> nacc so that is just a warning?
[17:24] <nacc> graamont: i assume so? you can pastebin the whole output
[17:24] <nacc> graamont: any reason you are using that repo?
[17:25] <graamont> nacc yes is a graphic card repository from intel
[17:26] <nacc> graamont: right, that is what it is. Why are you using it?
[17:26] <mina_> hi guys. I have a weird problem when trying to install ubuntu from a bootable usb pen drive. It doesn't boot on a toshiba laptop on which I had previously installed ubuntu-mate successfully using the same BIOS configuration and the same pen drive. is there any difference on the boot files between ubuntu and ubuntu-mate?
[17:27] <Speed__> i rejoined from the live usb
[17:27] <Speed__> im Speed_
[17:27] <graamont> nacc cause the computer is very slow to process image
[17:27] <Aurorasaura> Is there a way to make this command repeat every hour? sh -c "sleep 5s; sensors"
[17:27] <nacc> Aurorasaura: crontab?
[17:28] <nacc> graamont: 'process image'? as in photo processing? or as in normal GUI work
[17:28] <Speed__> so what can i do to remove the drivers or repair grub from here?
[17:28] <nacc> Speed__: did you answer earlier what you did to install the nvidia drivers?
[17:28] <Speed__> i think i need to repair grub
[17:28] <Aurorasaura> I was just going to add it to rc.local nacc but I forget how to write it as a repeat instead of sleep
[17:28] <Speed__> yes, with aditional drivers
[17:29] <graamont> nacc is a shittie graphic card so i am trying to make it work smooth
[17:30] <Speed__> i used the nvidia binary
[17:30] <nacc> graamont: unfortunately, for any support for that repository, you need to ask intel really
[17:31] <graamont> nacc i understand, just trying to make sure the update actually doing the job and i didnt know which one it was
[17:32] <graamont> nacc now i know thanks you and the other frind who answer me
[17:40] <Aurorasaura> Umm  lol a little help. I did while sleep SECONDS; do command; done but added & at the end.  Is there a way i can change this password without rebooting the machine and booting into grub?
[17:42] <tgm4883> !root | mednut
[17:44] <mednut> tgm4883: so..?
[17:44] <tgm4883> mednut: so.... don't set the root password. Use sudo instead
[17:44] <Onionnion> hi all, what does Ubuntu 16 use for firewall? is it still iptables? I'm coming from Fedora but trying to figure out how to open a port in this fresh 16.10 install
[17:45] <tgm4883> Onionnion: you're looking for the 'ufw' command
[17:45] <smallssd> I have a small spare 16GB M.2 ssd. I want to install ubuntu on it. Im not going to have any swap space on it because I already have 16GBs of ram i wont sleep ever sleep the system. Ill just shut it down. How much space should i allot for root and home? 50/50?
[17:45] <Onionnion> `man ufw` I go
[17:45] <smallssd> . I wont sleep the systtem ever either*
[17:45] <mednut> tgm4883: i can't. Past net-admin only has root user. I'm still logged into the machine, but he changed root passwords remotely
[17:45] <tgm4883> mednut: what version is this?
[17:46] <smallssd> anybody?
[17:46] <mednut> tgm4883: technically its the newest version of proxmox
[17:46] <mednut> i believe thats all debian based
[17:46] <tgm4883> mednut: I wasn't aware that proxmox is based on ubuntu
[17:46] <Onionnion> does running `ufw allow [port]` apply right away tgm4883? no other command needed to commit?
[17:47] <tgm4883> mednut: nor would it be supported here. You can change any password as root with the passwd command, so I'd start researching there
[17:47] <tgm4883> Onionnion: I don't believe you need anything else
[17:47] <tgm4883> smallssd: with an SSD that small, I'd just leave it one large partition
[17:47] <Onionnion> nope
[17:47] <Onionnion> thanks much tgm4883
[17:47] <smallssd> tgm4883: So only root then?
[17:48] <tgm4883> smallssd: yea
[17:48] <smallssd> tgm4883: Thanks!
[17:50] <Onionnion> it seems ufw wasn't even running..heh
[17:57] <Epx998> anyone know of an alternative to racktables?
[17:58] <tgm4883> Epx998: off topic, go to http://alternativeto.net/software/racktables/
[17:59] <asaf> hello anyone know how can i fix boot ? in idrac i have virtual console and it stuct at "TFTP Prefix:
[17:59] <asaf> Trying to load pxelinux.cfg/so-me-id
[17:59] <asaf> boot:
[18:00] <nacc> asaf: that's an odd file it is trying to load
[18:01] <asaf> nacc: is there a way to fix? i have rescue live on server but dunno what to do :(
[18:02] <asaf> nacc: so-me-id  is actually 01-d4-ar-52 and more
[18:02] <tgm4883> asaf: are you trying to pxeboot?
[18:03] <asaf> tgm4883: i just have a server at a company anytime i reboot it dont boot
[18:04] <asaf> tgm4883: i did not changed nothing just last night server crashed and now wont load
[18:04] <ativa> actualizar 16.04 es bueno
[18:04] <nacc> asaf: so-me-id is not the name of the file, you mean?
[18:04] <ativa> tengo 14.
[18:04] <nacc> asaf: or is so-me-id is a symlink?
[18:04] <nacc> !es | ativa
[18:06] <asaf> nacc pxelinux.cfg/01-a1-b2-e3 and so on ... i dont know where the file is located
[18:06] <nacc> asaf: is that actually the file name? again seems short. Shoul be 01-<MAC>
[18:06] <nacc> asaf: tftp uses whatever your tftp server is configured for; often /var/lib/tftpboot
[18:07] <asaf> nacc i only see the output from console i dont know if the file even exists
[18:07] <nacc> asaf: the file would exist on your tftp server
[18:07] <nacc> asaf: if you can't control that, then we can't help you, really
[18:07] <asaf> nacc bash: cd: var/lib/tftpboot: No such file or directory
[18:08] <asaf> nacc bash: cd: /var/lib/tftpboot: No such file or directory
[18:08] <asaf> nacc i can edit do whatevere but need some direction what to do
[18:08] <nacc> asaf: ok, i don't know how your tftp server is configured; as i said, you need to figure that out
[18:08] <tgm4883> nacc: I have a feeling he's not actually trying to pxeboot and either A) someone is messing with DHCP settings and his server is setup to PXEboot first, or B) His server is failing to boot from HDD and is now hitting the PXEBOOT which it previously didn't do
[18:08]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[18:08] <nacc> tgm4883: oh could be
[18:09] <nacc> asaf: are you actually trying to PXE boot your server?
[18:09] <asaf> nacc no i just push reboot thats all
[18:10] <asaf> nacc i think my boot is broken
[18:10] <asaf> nacc or kernel broken ?
[18:11] <nacc> asaf: ok, sounds like what tgm4883 said
[18:11] <asaf> nacc yep failing to load boot but how to fix that ? :(
[18:12] <nacc> asaf: we have no messages from when it fails to  load to boot -- you've only said it tries to tftp and fails. Presumably there are messages before that, or someone messed with the boot order
[18:13] <asaf> nacc boot.log
[18:13] <asaf> nacc  https://thepasteb.in/p/r0hwEWgKPyECK
[18:14] <asaf> nacc thats all
[18:14] <asaf> nanc then the file ends
[18:15] <nacc> asaf: ok, so it booted fine (the earlier tftp messages seemed like a red herring why did you mention them?)
[18:16] <nacc> asaf: it appears to not have networking, so it might be waiting on that
[18:17] <danilo> some op in #ubuntu-br please kickban the spammer AbsTradELic there? *!*@ubuntu/member/* are op there
[18:19] <asaf> nacc syslog also https://thepasteb.in/p/Anhr48w3OyWUv
[18:20] <div7> Which are other usages ofrouters
[18:21] <nacc> div7: is that an ubuntu support question?
[18:21] <div7> Nope
[18:21] <div7> May turn though
[18:24] <saymoo> !ot | div7