[06:14] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: well if you open up a terminal on that machine then you can learn how to use vim (command line text editor) by running the 'vimtutor' command. I'd try that first. I think you need to play around on the installed machine for a bit and learn some basics. IMHO.
[06:14] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: Press escape, and type 'wq' to write and quit.
[06:15] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: Make sure whatever you are writing you have a backup of.
[06:15] <K3nto> does crossover office work well with WoW?
[06:15] <DarkX> larrydavid, thanks for the info..leme see what the link says
[06:15] <larrydavid> ok
[06:15] <DarkX> K3nto, Crossover office doesnt have Acceleration last i remeber...may want to try Cedega
[06:15] <DarkX> Cedega is more geared towards gaming
[06:15] <cwill1> is there any way to make apt pretend that a broken package really isn't?
[06:15] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: If it's a .conf file or something, you can always do a backup by typing the command "cp <filename> <filename>.backup
[06:15] <larrydavid> so basically, that howto worked, ive now rebooted into the new kernel and everything is functioning, but i need to rebuild the ati drivers for this specific kernel
[06:15] <cwill1> i.e., I know its working (as well as I need it to), and I'd like synaptic to stop bugging me about it
[06:16] <cwill1> K3nto: wassup?
[06:16] <sm0k3d> catchjosh: is there like a cheatsheet with common commands like that?
[06:16] <gyaresu> larrydavid: 'uname -a'
[06:16] <larrydavid> Linux daft-ASUS 2.6.17-11-fdd-generic #1 SMP Sat Mar 3 14:04:09 EST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:16] <cwill1> DarkX: crossover and wine have directx acceleration, although its still a work in progress
[06:17] <jcsteele> does anyone know any idea on how to change the default permission of the "right click -> create document -> empty file" process...I have used the "connect to remote server" diaglog boxes to setup a connection to my server VIA ssh, however any and all files I create are "chmod 700"....i would like them to be 755 be default so i dont have to login via ssh and change their permissions.
[06:17] <brussel> My 60 minute cooking timer broke and I'm thinking I could make a bash shell script do the same. How would I make it play a sound though?
[06:17] <cwill1> brussel: play
[06:17] <cwill1> or aplay
[06:17] <DarkX> cwill1, i wasnt aware that Crossover implemented DirectX as of yet...sorry
[06:17] <bronze> launch a media playur
[06:17] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: There is: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/vimcheat.html
[06:17] <brussel> cvill1thanks
[06:17] <gyaresu> larrydavid: 'ls -l /usr/src/linux'
[06:17] <omegabeta> Question : Is there a program that will let me dump all the un-used memory? constantly running at about 95% after closing some applications etc and I'm certain it should not be so.
[06:17] <cwill1> DarkX: yep, I've been playing world of warcraft on it for several months :)
[06:17] <DarkX> tight
[06:17] <cwill1> omegabeta: it's normal
[06:17] <gyaresu> larrydavid: (Preface your comments with the persons nick so we see you )
[06:17] <DarkX> i may wipe this box and put ubunut on it
[06:17] <DarkX> i have dual 7300GTs
[06:17] <whosit> Any one having problems with Xorg taking 99.9% of the cpu when you logout? This is on a ATI M200 card?
[06:17] <Flannel> cwill1, DarkX, Wine does WoW just fine.  So, It's not specific to crossover
[06:17] <DarkX> SLI
[06:17] <cwill1> omegabeta: it's using any unused memory for file cache
[06:18] <larrydavid> gyaresu: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root src 35 2007-03-03 16:02 /usr/src/linux -> linux-headers-2.6.17-11-fdd-generic
[06:18] <cwill1> Flannel: that's what I said :p
[06:18] <Flannel> cwill1: ah, fair enough ;)
[06:18] <linuxfool> Hello
[06:18] <omegabeta> 57% Cache - 38% in use by programs... so thats normal?
[06:18] <cwill1> yep
[06:18] <omegabeta> ok cool
[06:18] <MTecknology> How can I get rid of this?
[06:18] <MTecknology> y> I can't get rid of a package i installed
 E: /var/cache/apt/archives/beryl-plugins_0.1.9999.2~0beryl1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/beryl/libdbus.so', which is also in package bery
[06:18] <cwill1> omegabeta: unused memory is wasted memory
[06:19] <cwill1> for the most part at least...
[06:19] <larrydavid> gyaresu: if it helps, i compiled the kernel in a directory called ~/undervolt
[06:19] <omegabeta> cwill1: wow, I know nothing =/
[06:19] <Flannel> sm0k3d: http://www.viemu.com/a_vi_vim_graphical_cheat_sheet_tutorial.html  is another good one
[06:19] <gyaresu> larrydavid: The linux-headers seem to be the one you built your new kernel against. So what is the error message now you're trying to build the ati drivers?
[06:20] <xamox> anyone here ever get evolution to sync with google calendar?
[06:20] <DarkX> gyaresu, make sure he has run make clean if he tried to compile on old kern ;)
[06:21] <larrydavid> gyaresu: ok so when i type sudo module-assistant prepare - it gives me: Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.17-11-fdd-generic
[06:21] <crookedsoul> anyone here manage to get the scrabble package in synaptic to work?
[06:21] <Absorto> hello! Please help me :( I have a SiS motherboard with onboard video and an AGP video card. I changed the setup in the BIOS to make my computer start using the onboard video. Its broken! and I can't get back to the AGP! what can I do?
[06:21] <crookedsoul> if so, can you tell me how, please?
[06:22] <Jordan_U> What does it mean when GRUB just displays the word "GRUB" with no error and hangs?
[06:24] <gyaresu> larrydavid: Hmmm... Try using the module-assistand '-k' option to point it at the headers int the ~/thingy directory where you compiled from.
[06:24] <larrydavid> ah ok thanks
[06:24] <crookedsoul> Absorto: have you tried restoring the bios defaults from the setup menu?
[06:24] <DemisM> hi, shift-backspace is working just like ctrl-alt-backspace how can I get rid of this?
[06:24] <DemisM> I'm using xgl and beryl btw
[06:25] <Absorto> crookedsoul I can't read the setup menu, I can't see it!
[06:25] <Flannel> DemisM: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support, thanks
[06:25] <lineman60> i am haveing a problem with my mouse not being recongesed,  no error in dmseg, lsusb, or var/log/messages any ideas what else to look at?
[06:25] <crookedsoul> you have no display at all?
[06:25] <linuxor> HI, Please, Is there something like recovery genius in linux?
[06:25] <Absorto> crookedsoul no display, at all :(
[06:25] <Flannel> linuxor: what's "recovery genius"?
[06:25] <whosit> Anyone have any help on this, I have a ATI M200 running the ATI driver and when I log out Xorg takes 99.9% of the CPU and the screen goes black, I had to ssh in to see what was going on.
[06:26] <linuxor> Fannel : to recover my system like Ghost
[06:26] <lineman60> whosit, are you useing Beryl or any thing like that?
[06:26] <crookedsoul> Absorto: see this page for a how-to on restoring the bios from the jumpers on the main board http://www.simcreator.com/forums/index.php?s=a0e18f9f3e314201b075be9d6eff7a54&showtopic=14&st=0&#entry17
[06:26] <whosit> yea
[06:26] <whosit> Xgl and berly but it does it when I just run X
[06:26] <lineman60> do you have the ATI dirvers
[06:26] <Absorto> crookedsoul thanks! lemme see
[06:27] <whosit> yes
[06:27] <crookedsoul> Good luck
[06:27] <lineman60> :-(
[06:27] <Aaronb2245> Wheew Heew got Ubuntu 6.06 up and running on my laptop today!! This is def. the best distro I have used to date. Just have to get the sound working
[06:27] <emet> ATI LOL
[06:27] <Flannel> !backup | linuxor
[06:27] <ubotu> linuxor: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[06:27] <whosit> Hey, it was a free laptop
[06:27] <linuxor> Flannel : yeah
[06:28] <emet> everyone using an ATI card should goto AMD headquarters and do a million man march !
[06:28] <linuxor> ubotu : thx i ll see'm
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx i ll see'm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <lineman60> whosit i went to Nvida becouse of the problem with graphics?
[06:29] <DemisM> any idea why shift-backspace would restart my gdm?
[06:29] <whosit> Im a Nvida fan, I got this laptop for free and it had a ATI (JUNK)
[06:30] <elkbuntu> DemisM, you're running compiz or beryl?
[06:30] <Ltar> whosit I've always favored ATI, although i couldn't right now give you a valid reason why
[06:30] <Ltar> never had any problems, just always used them
[06:30] <DemisM> elkbuntu: yes
[06:30] <gyaresu> !offtopic
[06:30] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:30] <elkbuntu> DemisM, it's a bug in them
[06:30] <elkbuntu> DemisM, well.. actually really a very annoying 'feature'
[06:31] <Aaronb2245> hum...ctrl+alt+backspace shuts down X maybe thats what you hit?
[06:31] <whosit> Oh well, Ill have to wait till and update comes for either Ubuntu or ATI, I can work around it till then, Xgl does rock tho :)
[06:31] <muzikgoat> so, i'm looking for help on this issue,  when Dapper used to load, I could see my services and modules loading and all that,  since upgrading to Edgy,  that is now gone.   I've been up and down the grub settings and the only thing i can find is quiet boot, but that doesn't change anything that i can see, any suggestions?
[06:31] <ralsheb> if i want to compile a kernel from kernel.org that doesn't have kernel headers in the ubuntu kernel headers package where can i find them?
[06:31] <Flannel> !kernel | ralsheb
[06:31] <ubotu> ralsheb: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:32] <uffda> HELLO
[06:32] <crookedsoul> muzikgoat: are you worried that your services and modules are not there, or just annoyed because you can't see them?
[06:32] <EADG> muzikgoat: change quit to "verbose"
[06:32] <muzikgoat> annoyed
[06:33] <muzikgoat> change quit where?
[06:33] <muzikgoat> is that in menu.lst?
[06:33] <elkbuntu> DemisM, try doing this at command line, or adding it to your beryl session: xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace Terminate_Server"
[06:33] <EADG> yes
[06:33] <K3nto> !rar
[06:33] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:33] <Flannel> muzikgoat: you need to remove quiet, and add nosplash
[06:33] <Ltar> if i have ubuntu on the master drive in order to back up some files from a slave (with a wanked-up copy of XP), and then switch the master/slave settings in order to appease windows, will linux freak out at having it's HDD priority changed?
[06:33] <Zeke_D> Anyone up for helping me troubleshoot an Ubuntu install?
[06:34] <crookedsoul> what's the prob, Zeke?
[06:34] <larrydavid> gyaresu: when i do that Im getting: Warning, /home/daft/undervolt/linux-source-2.6.17-<IP_ADDRESS> seems to contain unconfigured kernel source
[06:34] <Zeke_D> no network cards detected, I am running a common realtek card
[06:34] <Zeke_D> 8139C i believe
[06:35] <gyaresu> Ltar: 'cat /etc/fstab' you'll possibly see either the UUID= or /dev/hda1 etc...
[06:35] <crookedsoul> h'mm, haven't come across that before, I'll check it out - back in amo....
[06:35] <Zeke_D> kewl
[06:35] <DemisM> elkbuntu: thx that worked
[06:35] <gyaresu> larrydavid: can you change into that folder and 'make oldconfig' then try again.
[06:35] <Ltar> gyaresu: rebotting my new ubuntu now
[06:36] <Ltar> gyaresu: is cat a program similar to Nano?
[06:36] <gyaresu> larrydavid: (This really really isn't right. The source should be in the /usr/src/ dir.
[06:36] <ralsheb> Flannel: i read that but im trying to compile a vanilla kernel from kernel.org for which ubuntu never used that particular kernel version and theres no headers package for it
[06:36] <gyaresu> Ltar: 'man cat'
[06:36] <K3nto> !sh
[06:36] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:36] <K3nto> how do you install a program downloaded in .sh format?
[06:37] <posingaspopular> yea thanks, that person just pinged me too
[06:37] <elkbuntu> DemisM, it needs to be re-done every time you start the beryl or compiz session, so write it down somewhere
[06:37] <gyaresu> K3nto: 'sh thing.sh' or './thing.sh' (after chmod +x)
[06:37] <Dr_willis> k31th,  sh whatever.sh or bash whatever.sh or chmod +x whatever.sh  ./whatever.sh
[06:37] <EADG> Anybody else looking at this # with Irssi?
[06:37] <DemisM> elkbuntu: i put it on my startup scripts :)
[06:37] <Zeke_D> The cards are not showing up in dmesg either
[06:38] <Flannel> EADG: what?
[06:38] <gyaresu> EADG: yes.
[06:38] <K3nto> okay so i can type "sh XXXXXXX.sh" into the terminal?
[06:38] <_`XeOn_> hello how to mount a FAT32 partition?
[06:38] <Dr_willis> !fat32
[06:38] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:38] <elkbuntu> DemisM, good :)
[06:38] <gyaresu> K3nto: yes.
[06:38] <larrydavid> gyaresu: hmm nope same problem
[06:38] <K3nto> okay
[06:38] <EADG> Hehe, cool. Just wondering, found it tonight and thought I'd check it out.
[06:38] <muzikgoat> thank you EADG,  i dont see any change,  i changed defoptions=quiet boot   to =nosplash and rebooted,  no change
[06:38] <muzikgoat> running grub-update overwrites that
[06:39] <Flannel> muzikgoat: You need to change them in the top part for all-the-time, instructions ar ein that file on how to perm. change.  Although you can simply edit per bootup for single use
[06:39] <Flannel> muzikgoat: just hit 'e' to edit
[06:39] <gyaresu> larrydavid: right.
[06:39] <daifu1> I have dual boot ubuntu/xp. While in ubuntu I would like to read pdfs files in xp. I have been told to use !NFTS but do not know whether to put the !NTFS command. Is it in terminal?
[06:40] <sm0k3d> wow with 930 people im suprised there isnt more chatter going on
[06:40] <larrydavid> gyaresu: should i try redownloading a new version of the linux headers (linux-headers-2.6.17-11) and pointing it at that?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> sm0k3d,  have patience. :)
[06:40] <muzikgoat> Flannel:  what is the full command?
[06:40] <muzikgoat> just nosplash?
[06:40] <daifu1> I have also copied files from xp into a cd but ubuntu does not read them!!!
[06:41] <gyaresu> larrydavid: Nah. Somehow the linux-headers are not the same ones you compiled against.
[06:41] <sm0k3d> dr_willis: i dont have a question, im just saying that there r 930 people and still it is very very easy to read what every1 is typing in
[06:41] <EADG> muzikgoat: change quiet to verbose.
[06:41] <K3nto> ok i have crossover office, how do i star an already-installed windows app
[06:41] <K3nto> start
[06:41] <cwill1> K3nto: crossover usually makes entries in the menu for you
[06:41] <crookedsoul> Zeke: try this link http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_RTL8168
[06:41] <GaiaX11> What to I need to play    .mov  in ubuntu?
[06:42] <cwill1> although you might need to restart gnome-panel
[06:42] <gyaresu> larrydavid: I may be wrong but you may need to mv the linux-source to /usr/src/ and symbolically link to them (if that makes sense)
[06:42] <K3nto> ok i'll restart
[06:42] <dr-tofu> i can't figure out why i can't start with splash..
[06:42] <Zeke_D> okay
[06:42] <larrydavid> hmm ok, ill give it a shot
[06:42] <Flannel> GaiaX11: thats quicktime
[06:42] <cwill1> K3nto: just killall gnome-panel, and it should come back
[06:42] <crookedsoul> seems like realtek cards are a common problem
[06:42] <ralsheb> anyone know a reposuitory where i can get headers for a 2.6.15 kernel?
[06:42] <larrydavid> gyaresu: worst case scenario i guess i can just recompile the kernel but do it from /usr/src
[06:42] <m4n> hey everybody.  can anyone tell me what I need to install to play audio cds in ubuntu ?
[06:42] <cables> m4n, it's already there.
[06:43] <Dr_willis> m4n,  you mean normal 'music' cd's ?
[06:43] <gyaresu> larrydavid: aye.
[06:43] <Zeke_D> hmmm, my realtek model is not listed there
[06:43] <DarkX> music cds from store or MP3 cds
[06:43] <muzikgoat> EADG: i'm changing #defoptions=quiet boot   to =verbose,  that should be fine?
[06:43] <arrow> I'm looking for a high end printer that I'm going to network, does anyone know a good one that will work seamlessly with ubuntu?
[06:43] <crookedsoul> m4n: you should already have the right programs installed, they are part of the install package
[06:43] <m4n> yes, normal. i dont get any sound output :(
[06:43] <Ltar> .cda, OR a data cd?
[06:43] <m4n> .cda
[06:43] <gyaresu> arrow: http://linuxprinting.org
[06:43] <Flannel> !sound | m4n
[06:43] <crookedsoul> sorry, zeke, no clue
[06:43] <cables> m4n, do you get sound from other apps?
[06:43] <ubotu> m4n: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:43] <larrydavid> gyaresu: okay, moved - how do I link them?
[06:43] <arrow> gyaresy: thx
[06:43] <m4n> cables: yes. mp3 is also working fine
[06:44] <crookedsoul> m4n: do you have 'soundjuice' installed?
[06:44] <m4n> crookedsoul: i tried with xmms and the in built audio cd player
[06:44] <AngryElf> is there a command that will wake a monitor up from sleep?
[06:44] <m4n> crookedsoul: i will check that.
[06:44] <m4n> one sec
[06:44] <daifu1> In a double boot, how do I read files from xp while in ubuntu? Thank.s
[06:44] <megafauna> Hi RealPlayer sounds choppy & static-ee when I stream from the BBC. It works fine in windows. Any advice or suggestions:? /2 weeks of trying to make it run
[06:44] <Comrade-Sergei> has anyone gotten Fruity loops or FL studio to work in ubuntu?
[06:44] <pinguim_magico> i'm sorry but someone knows what is hapening whith sources.list and the archives and all ubuntu apt-get stuff?!
[06:45] <gyaresu> !ntfs-3g | daifu1
[06:45] <ubotu> daifu1: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:45] <megafauna> daiful: I have a program driver I got from the lifehacker blog that does that, let me find the link
[06:45] <Flannel> pinguim_magico: What's happening?
[06:45] <crookedsoul> what's your confusion, pinguin?
[06:45] <megafauna> daiful: oops, sorry, it works the other way round, from windows to read linux
[06:45] <m4n> crookedsoul: i dont have that package installed. not only that, apt-cache search on soundjuice is not returning anything
[06:45] <crookedsoul> apt-get is just a command for installing packages, but it's easier to use synaptic, becauseit has a nce gui
[06:46] <cwill1> is there any way to make synaptic ignore a broken package?
[06:46] <gyaresu> crookedsoul: Define easier ;)
[06:46] <Tonren> If I configure rtorrent to use a certain port, will it use the same port for TCP and UPD?
[06:46] <larrydavid> gyaresu: okay, moved - how do I link them?
[06:46] <crookedsoul> m4n: do you have automatix/
[06:46] <Tonren> If not, which port does rtorrent use for UDP?
[06:46] <gyaresu> cwill1: That's not a good idea.
[06:46] <m4n> crookedsoul: checking.
[06:46] <Comrade-Sergei> has anyone gotten Fruity loops or FL studio to work in ubuntu?
[06:46] <pinguim_magico> Flannel well here in my ubuntu instalation stay waiting don know how many times for the archive.ubuntu.com ... and then errros in apt-get like ... try to install gftp ... and give-me erros like need gftp ... xxx and don`t have this paket and things like this
[06:46] <cwill1> gyaresu: I know, but it's unavoidable until evince 7.0 is backported (if that ever happens)
[06:46] <DemisM> what do I need to play dvd, divxs, mp4s etc?
[06:46] <gyaresu> larrydavid: 'ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-thingy /usr/src/linux'
[06:46] <larrydavid> ta
[06:47] <Dr_willis> DemisM,  thats like 4 different questions. :)
[06:47] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[06:47] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:47] <cwill1> gyaresu: evince itself works fine though
[06:47] <crookedsoul> demism: songbird is great for mp4s and music
[06:47] <m4n> crookedsoul: same result on that also. not installed and nothing in apt-cache search also
[06:47] <gyaresu> !dvd
[06:47] <K3nto> !crossover
[06:47] <crookedsoul> vcl player for dvds
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossover - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <_pb> when connecting vpn what do you type in the location area in nautilus
[06:47] <gyaresu> !restrictedformats | DemisM
[06:47] <ubotu> DemisM: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:47] <m1> what's up I can't install the flash player in ubuntu
[06:47] <Flannel> m1: "cant"?
[06:47] <megafauna> daiful: IIRC that is a feature which isn't offically supported by ubuntu. You can buy apps to do that or d/l some OSS ones, but they may not work as they are still in development. http://www.win4lin.com/ will do it but you will have to pay for it.
[06:48] <crookedsoul> install flashplayer through autmatix, its easy
[06:48] <Flannel> crookedsoul: please do not recommend automatix.
[06:48] <megafauna> daiful: there are other solutions too but Idk them.
[06:48] <crookedsoul> why not? It's a great first step for beginners, they can't break anything
[06:48] <m1> I'm doing it through synaptic
[06:48] <Flannel> crookedsoul: because it breaks peoples systems
[06:48] <gyaresu> !works for me | crookedsoul
[06:48] <ubotu> crookedsoul: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:48] <Flannel> !automatix | crookedsoul
[06:48] <ubotu> crookedsoul: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:48] <crookedsoul> it has never broken mine, through 3 distros
[06:48] <K3nto> cwill1: nothing showed up automatically
[06:48] <Flannel> crookedsoul: See !worksforme
[06:48] <gyaresu> crookedsoul: ^^
[06:49] <m1> but it says everytime  that installation failed by somewhat
[06:49] <EADG> That should get you seeing _everything_ during boot up.
[06:49] <Comrade-Sergei> has anyone gotten Fruity loops or FL studio to work in ubuntu?
[06:49] <cwill1> K3nto:  :/;  what did you install?
[06:49] <DemisM> what do you guys recommend for playing dvds and movie media files?
[06:49] <K3nto> WoW
[06:49] <Zeke_D> crookedsoul: Looks like drivers are at http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=6&PFid=6&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false I just need to figure out how to install or recompile
[06:49] <Flannel> crookedsoul: if you want to dance with death, that's fine.  But please don't recommend it
[06:49] <_pb> i am connected via vpn , however want to browse the vpn server shares what do you type in the location in nautilus?
[06:49] <colbert> DemisM: VLC Player
[06:49] <ralsheb> anyone know where i can find kernel headers for kernerls that aren't in ubuntu's package?
[06:49] <m1> it says installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[06:49] <megafauna> Hi RealPlayer sounds choppy & static-ee when I stream from the BBC. It works fine in windows. Any advice or suggestions:? /2 weeks of trying to make it run
[06:50] <gyaresu> DemisM: mplayer from the command line.
[06:50] <Comrade-Sergei> Has any one heard of FL Studio?
[06:50] <Ltar> ubuntu reminds me of debian
[06:50] <LaGGed> ...
[06:50] <Ltar> what... are the most significant differences?
[06:50] <LaGGed> you would think so since it's a debian fork
[06:51] <Ltar> LaGGed: yeah
[06:51] <K3nto> cwill1: is it because the install is in a hidden folder?
[06:51] <pete> Ltar, the most significant difference is that Ubuntu has releases
[06:51] <gyaresu> !offtopic
[06:51] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:51] <m1> :/
[06:51] <cwill1> K3nto: no, crossover usually generates the menu items automatically (they'd be under windows apps, or crossover)
[06:51] <m1> weird
[06:51] <pinguim_magico> Flanneli change from the archive and add some country in the first and it works ... but the default ubuntu instalation is not working ... :X
[06:52] <K3nto> ok so i can just move the install folder into crossover?
[06:52] <cwill1> K3nto: should be able to double click the file from Program Files, assuming crossover has that option enabled, otherwise, wine <path to file> should work
[06:52] <m1> I think that I had installed flash player using ubuntu 6.10 livecd
[06:52] <pinguim_magico> lol 3 weeks thinking why this don`t work and now in 5 minuts i resolve the problem o0 0o ubealiver ... :\
[06:52] <preaction> Comrade-Sergei: looks like FL Studio is a windows application
[06:52] <j-red> Hey guys, I need some help with getting my printer working. I've been using this post : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714 and so far it has been working. Once I got to the alien command though, I got a message saying that there is no alien command
[06:53] <pete> j-red: sudo apt-get install alien
[06:53] <Comrade-Sergei> preaction yes i know i cannot get crossover or cedega to run it and wine crashes when i open something what can be done
[06:53] <K3nto> ok
[06:53] <dr-tofu> when i have grub run with "verbose splash", it hangs after "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)      [ ok ] "
[06:53] <muzikgoat> so i changed it to verbose, instead of quiet splash,  and its not specifically what i was going for.   its better,  but does anyone know how to get the same splash as dapper used to have?
[06:53] <omegabeta> Question : Where can I get really cool looking system health display sidebars? not the gdesklet ones though, their heaps tacky..
[06:54] <preaction> Comrade-Sergei: to run it? nothing. to help wine figure out why it cant be run? don't know, try running in a terminal and see the debug output
[06:54] <j-red> I didn't know I had to install alien before i did that, I thought it was just one of the commands. I'm sort of new to Ubuntu
[06:54] <gyaresu> omegabeta: I use conky but that's not very 'pretty'.
[06:54] <Comrade-Sergei> preaction ill paste bin it, its quite long
[06:54] <Flannel> omegabeta: conky is probably what youd like
[06:54] <preaction> Comrade-Sergei: it has absolutely no use to me, give it to the wine developers
[06:54] <gyaresu> omegabeta: alien will install (redhat style) rpms into a debian (.deb) machine.
[06:55] <j-red> say what about alien?
[06:55] <Comrade-Sergei> preaction ok how can i tell them?
[06:55] <omegabeta> I have sysinfo, Htop, Hardinfo, Xcensors and MGM sys monitor.. not happy with any of them in terms of "I want to leave this open to see"
[06:55] <larrydavid> gyaresu: figured it out - the howto didnt tell me to dpkg -i the headers from the build :/
[06:56] <gyaresu> larrydavid: voila!
[06:56] <dr-tofu> what happens right after ubuntu runs boot scripts?
[06:56] <larrydavid> thanks for your help
[06:56] <gyaresu> larrydavid: no problem.
[06:56] <preaction> Comrade-Sergei: here's what google gives you: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=7036
[06:57] <Comrade-Sergei> lol
[06:57] <whosit> I have a ATI M200 card with the ATI drivers, when ever I logout Xorg takes 99.9% of the CPU, I had to ssh in to see what was going on, any help?
[06:58] <j-red> still following that page and when I type in "sudo tar xvzf  z600llpddk-2.0.tgz -C" I get "tar: option requires an argument -- C
[06:58] <j-red> Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
[06:58] <j-red> "
[06:58] <gyaresu> omegabeta: dstat
[06:58] <Jordan_U> When I boot I just get a screen saying "GRUB" and it hangs there
[06:58] <j-red> anyone know why?
[06:58] <pete> try a - infront of xvzf
[06:59] <gago0021> hello all.. how does one know if php is already installed in the system and is working?
[06:59] <omegabeta> argg.. "Steam is updating" - Its definaltly working.. cause WoW works perfectly, question is.. where did it go =/... I cant see it anywhere but it running cause I cant run another
[06:59] <j-red> I did...
[06:59] <j-red> I'll try again
[06:59] <omegabeta> gyaresu: cheers, will look in to it
[06:59] <Flannel> gago0021: dpkg -l | grep php, will tell you what's installed
[06:59] <gyaresu> omegabeta: http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/dstat/
[06:59] <m1> how I input characters in ubuntu like doing it in windows through numerical ascii codes
[06:59] <gago0021> flannel: thanks will try that now
[06:59] <Tonren> If I configure rtorrent to use a certain port, will it use the same port for TCP and UDP?  If not, what's the UDP port that it uses?
[06:59] <j-red> nope.
[07:00] <j-red> - infront of xvzf doesn't help
[07:00] <joeyk_> m1,  not sure i follow
[07:00] <milosevic> Fellows, i just installed ubuntu, and now i'm trying to compile a simple c program: #include <stdio.h> int main(puts("Hello");}, but gcc is not finding stdio.h, do you know why?
[07:00] <K3nto> cwill1: its not working
[07:00] <pete> ml: start menu> Applications > Accessories > Character Map
[07:00] <Flannel> milosevic: install "build-essential"
[07:00] <milosevic> build-essential?
[07:00] <Flannel> milosevic: yes, the package
[07:00] <milosevic> thanks a lot man
[07:00] <milosevic> bless you
[07:00] <milosevic> :D
[07:00] <m1> I'm using a latinamerican keyboard layout and I can't input some characters of the english keyboard layout
[07:00] <pete> J-red: can you paste exactly what you typed?
[07:01] <j-red>  sudo tar -xvzf z600llpddk-2.0.tgz -C
[07:01] <gyaresu> j-red: -C requires an argument.
[07:01] <j-red> oh wait..
[07:01] <j-red> I think I missed a / at the end
[07:01] <gyaresu> j-red: -C /thing/stuff
[07:01] <j-red> yeah
[07:01] <j-red> I just realized :(
[07:01] <gyaresu> j-red: better than not :)
[07:01] <j-red> yup :) the comments on the page that I'm following are messing me up there :(
[07:02] <ofeigsfjardt> Can anyone help me with my soundcard? alsamixer reports "snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device". I think that I don't have a module loaded for my soundcard. Any ideas?
[07:02] <milosevic> Flannel ; the add/remove applications doesn't have a build-essential package
[07:02] <techie> Could someone give me the link for the ntfs driver so that I can read from a dual boot ubuntu and xp?
[07:02] <green> so does anyone know how feisty is going to be?
[07:02] <milosevic> do you know how i can install it manually?
[07:02] <Flannel> milosevic: open up synaptic
[07:02] <preaction> !ntfs-3g > techie
[07:02] <sdlvx> hey guys i have a quick question
[07:02] <j-red> I'm used to / bieng part of the start of the comment because of web development
[07:02] <sdlvx> how do i start KDE from terminal?
[07:02] <dr-tofu> i haven't had problems with ubuntu since i got it a few weeks ago, and all of a sudden, it will stop booting right after "Running local boot scripts".. it will start fine if i boot to text mode and startx... i have no idea why
[07:02] <Flannel> milosevic: Add/Remove is a dumbed down interface.  Synaptic is what you want.
[07:02] <m4n> Flannel: any more suggestions for my audio cd problem ?  i can play mp3
[07:02] <Flannel> green: Feisty in #ubuntu+1
[07:02] <gago0021> flannel: thanks seems php is installed
[07:03] <omegabeta> krull1
[07:03] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: 'asoundconf list'
[07:03] <preaction> sdlvx: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[07:03] <gyaresu> sdlvx: ^^ what he said.
[07:03] <milosevic> Flannel ; synaptic also didn't find a package named build-essentials
[07:03] <green> i tried running fedora 6 and dapper together but ubuntu would'nt see fedora
[07:03] <Flannel> milosevic: Er... No 's'
[07:03] <preaction> milosevic: build-essential
[07:03] <milosevic> hm build-essential
[07:03] <joeyk_> dr-tofu, is it possible gdm could be messed up
[07:04] <milosevic> yeah there you go
[07:04] <sdlvx> thank you ver much preaction
[07:04] <sdlvx> i appreciate it
[07:04] <dr-tofu> joeyk_: i barely know what i'm doing here, maybe?
[07:04] <gago0021> im creating a website right now.. i used phps include function. however when i test it. apache says this Warning: include() [function.include] : Failed opening 'php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/index.php on line 1 what does that mean??
[07:04] <milosevic> very impressive... much easier than slackware :D
[07:04] <preaction> gago0021: ask ##php
[07:04] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: I've had problems with 'kdm'. Could it be that?
[07:04] <preaction> milosevic: but slackware combats slack! hail Bob!
[07:04] <gago0021> preaction: ok will do thanks
[07:04] <ofeigsfjardt> Can anyone help me with my soundcard? alsamixer reports "snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device". I think that I don't have a module loaded for my soundcard. Any ideas?
[07:05] <m1> I just can't put the character @ with my kbd layout
[07:05] <techie> when I copy !ntfs-3g on terminal it tells me bash:!ntfs-3g; event not found...... what does that mean? or Am i putting that command on the wrong place?
[07:05] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: 'asoundconf list'
[07:05] <preaction> techie: ubotu should've messaged you something
[07:05] <preaction> !ntfs-3g | techie
[07:05] <ubotu> techie: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:05] <milosevic> guys i also need vmware-player, or something like that (just to run virtual machines, not to build'em).. do you know what i need?
[07:06] <pete> m1: can you solve this by going to Applications>Accessories>Character Map
[07:06] <green> i'll take it i need aa  ati video card instead of via to run beryl?
[07:06] <techie> I guess I must download the driver as in lunapark6 link. i will try that
[07:06] <whosit> Green, you need XGL ATI Or Nvidia.
[07:06] <green> ok ty
[07:07] <m1> yeah but it's very unpractical
[07:07] <j-red> whoa... read/write acces to NTFS partitions? Does that mean that I would be able to get some of the files off of my windows partition and save files there from Ubuntu?
[07:07] <thesUb-ZeRo> j-red: yes, exactly
[07:07] <K3nto> cwill1: can you help me with crossover?
[07:07] <m1> I need a way to put symbols like doing alt+#
[07:07] <m1> in windows
[07:07] <dr-tofu> gyaresu: no it appears to be the gdm
[07:07] <j-red> cool.
[07:07] <K3nto> can somebody help me with crossover?
[07:07] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: Have you had a look at 'dmesg' and 'less /var/log/messages' ?
[07:07] <techie> is ubuntu 610 also called edgy?
[07:08] <ToddEDM> hey, im using the live CD and i need to get sound working..... can anyone help me?
[07:08] <K3nto> techie: yes
[07:08] <preaction> techie: yes
[07:08] <techie> <K3nto thanks.
[07:08] <thesUb-ZeRo> ToddEDM: what kind of soundcard do you have?
[07:08] <milosevic> where should i put a script that should be executed everytime i boot?
[07:08] <ToddEDM> dunno really its just in my laptop
[07:08] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: 'asoundconf list'
[07:09] <j-red> on the page that I'm following (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714)theres a part in the first post saying "if you get no output,mount the usb filesystem..." I don't quite understand what I'm supposed to do. Someone please explain?
[07:09] <ofeigsfjardt> gyaresu: it did nothing :/
[07:09] <thesUb-ZeRo> ToddEDM: do "lspci" in the terminal
[07:09] <ToddEDM> ok it just says Nvidia
[07:09] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: then the right drivers aren't loaded. 'lspci'
[07:09] <thesUb-ZeRo> ToddEDM: do lspci
[07:10] <dr-tofu> milosevic: boot scripts seem to be in /etc/rc.local, check google with that name? i could be horribly wrong
[07:10] <thesUb-ZeRo> ToddEDM: what's the output for the name of a soundcard?
[07:10] <ToddEDM> nvidia mcp51
[07:10] <arrow> Does anyone know of a script or a program that will make a text document with the names of all my folders in a certain directory?
[07:10] <j-red> on the page that I'm following (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714)theres a part in the first post saying "if you get no output,mount the usb filesystem..." I don't quite understand what I'm supposed to do. Someone please explain?
[07:10] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: milosevic you can put commands (one per line) in the file /etc/rc.local
[07:10] <ofeigsfjardt> gyaresu: ok, so now what? i think i found what the device is
[07:10] <preaction> arrow: ls > filename
[07:11] <preaction> arrow: > means "redirect output to a file"
[07:11] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: Could you post the one line that refers to the sound chip please.
[07:11] <pavs> since YAST is open source has yast or anything like that been ported to ubuntu?
[07:11] <dr-tofu> gyaresu: last thing dmesg says is "apm: BIOS not found."
[07:12] <j-red> anyone?
[07:12] <preaction> pavs: i believe Yast is SuSE's package manager, correct? ubuntu uses APT
[07:12] <pete> j-red: I think he means that you mount the usb filesystem by editing fstab in the way that he says to in the next line
[07:12] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: old computer?
[07:12] <arrow> preaction: I was thinking an entire script already written, or a guide on how to write one (i've never done it before)
[07:12] <ac> hi
[07:12] <dr-tofu> gyaresu: relatively new laptop
[07:12] <dr-tofu> gyaresu: a year old maybe two
[07:12] <j-red> excuse my idiocy but how exactly do I "mount the usb filesystem" ?
[07:12] <ac> I'm a new user of ubuntu
[07:12] <Dr_willis> !mount
[07:12] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:12] <Jordan_U> My computer no longer boots
[07:12] <ToddEDM> if i go into  system>preferences>sound>sound properties... i see my card listed
[07:12] <ac> I wonder if someone can help me pleas
[07:13] <Araelius> greetings all
[07:13] <preaction> arrow: open a terminal. cd to the appropriate directory, and type "ls > filename", then "filename" in that directory will contain a list of all the files/folders in that directory
[07:13] <ToddEDM> HDA Nvidia
[07:13] <ac> i have a problem with my ps2 mouse
[07:13] <thesUb-ZeRo> ac: whats the questiojn?
[07:13] <arrow> preaction: thanks
[07:13] <ac> it doesn't work
[07:13] <pavs> preaction yes YAST is for sure, but it has a front-end gui for server/hardware-devince configuration, APT has such a flexible GUI?
[07:13] <thesUb-ZeRo> ac: get a usb mouse
[07:13] <pete> j-red: He explains this in the two lines after where he tells you to "mount the usb filesystem": i.e. "Add this to your /etc/fstab file"
[07:13] <preaction> pavs: Synaptic Package Manager is a GUI frontend to APT
[07:13] <K3nto> could somebody help me with crossover? i already installed a windows application with wine, and i later installed crosover. how do i use crossover to strt the program
[07:13] <ac> another suggestion?
[07:14] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: hmmm. Have you had a look for other peoples guides for that model. From http://www.linux-laptop.net/ for example?
[07:14] <ToddEDM> could someone help me get my sound working >???
[07:14] <dr-tofu> i've never had a problem with GDM until today..
[07:14] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: or even the ubuntu forums/wiki
[07:15] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: Did you update/upgrade any packages?
[07:15] <j-red> I got a "mount: can't find usbfs in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:15] <Araelius> I just posted on the forums, but being the impatiant person I am I thought I would ask here, anyway I am wondering if it is possible to dual boot xp and ubuntu using 2 seprate hard drives and if so how is it done?
[07:15] <thesUb-ZeRo> yes, it is possible
[07:15] <thesUb-ZeRo> very very easy
[07:15] <preaction> Araelius: install grub on your boot hard drive's MBR
[07:15] <Dr_willis> Araelius,  i do it all the time.. i have several  disrtos on their own hd's
[07:15] <pete> j-red: did you add the line "usbfs         /proc/bus/usb usbfs   devgid=14,devmode=0660 0 0" to /etc/fstab first??
[07:16] <dr-tofu> gyaresu: maybe.. i was playing around with the wrt54g firmware source and i had to get a few thigns to build it, but i think i've restarted fine since then
[07:16] <ToddEDM> Araelius:  i got it done, and im a total newb
[07:16] <pavs> preaction YAST is more that downloading and installing fro reps, it actually configure services ie, apache, samba, firewall settings, hardware-devices. AFAIK synaptic doesnt do that.
[07:16] <j-red> I think so?
[07:16] <gyaresu> Araelius: If you've got an XP install already then install ubuntu to the second drive and you'll be fine.
[07:16] <Dr_willis> Araelius,  grub is very good at doing that.
[07:16] <ofeigsfjardt> gyaresu: I think this is it: 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 02)
[07:16] <gago0021> how can i change my keyboard setup? i mistakenly set it up during installation. it is just a generic keyboard. but to type a quote and unquote symbol, i have to hit the key for it 2 times while pressing shift key. i tried changing it in the keyboard preferences section but nothing happens. what should i do?
[07:16] <Araelius> ok, thanks guys
[07:16] <pete> j-red: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:16] <globe> do I really have to restart my computer after disabling ipv6 support ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 )?  I thought restarting was a windows-ism...
[07:16] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: no. Look for something that sa... just pastebin the output.
[07:17] <ToddEDM> so could someone take some time and help me with me no sound issue?
[07:17] <kalorin> weird
[07:17] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: ello.
[07:17] <dr-tofu> gyaresu: is there a way to find out what might be stopping gdm from loading?
[07:17] <Dr_willis> the X logs
[07:17] <kalorin> every time the screen saver kicks on I come back and it's turned off the checkbox to let xfce manage the desktop
[07:17] <j-red> so I just copy the line into that file?
[07:17] <kalorin> so the files on the desktop disappear until i turn that back on
[07:17] <ofeigsfjardt> gyaresu: http://dpaste.com/6359/
[07:17] <ToddEDM> gyaresu:  i have no sound.... how do i get ti to work
[07:18] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: 'cat /var/log/gdm.log'
[07:18] <pete> j-red: yeah
[07:18] <K3nto> !bottle
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bottle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <Araelius> anyway, the main issue I can't dual boot on my main drive is what I believe to be a hard drive issue, I have run chkdsk and defragged but I still seem to have issues, any ideas?
[07:18] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: Could you please post the output of 'lspci' in a pastebin?
[07:18] <yomm> How can I set up my (unrecognized) keyboard volume & other keys to work on edgy ?
[07:18] <Araelius> thhe main reason*
[07:18] <Araelius> the*
[07:18] <preaction> Araelius: which did you install first? XP or Ubuntu?
[07:18] <ToddEDM> gyaresu: , ummmm huh>?
[07:18] <ToddEDM> 'i dont know what that is
[07:18] <gyaresu> !pastebin | ToddEDM
[07:18] <ubotu> ToddEDM: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:19] <ToddEDM> pastebin
[07:19] <Araelius> xp
[07:19] <Araelius> ntfs is the filesystem
[07:19] <ToddEDM> ok
[07:19] <preaction> Araelius: and when the Ubuntu installer asked you about the bootloader (GRUB) what did you tell it?
[07:19] <Araelius> at first i assumed it was fragmentation but that wasn't the case
[07:19] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: So open up a terminal. Then run the command 'lspci'.
[07:19] <thesUb-ZeRo> gyaresu: i have tried to tell him that....
[07:19] <Araelius> i get as far as manually editing the partition
[07:20] <gyaresu> thesUb-ZeRo: I'll take it from here then ;)
[07:20] <j-red> that didn't seem to help :(
[07:20] <j-red> my printer still isn't printing
[07:20] <Araelius> after giving it a go it stops and says there is an issue with the filesystem on the hard drive and I should check for errors
[07:20] <j-red> anyone have any idea how to set up a Lexmark z515 ?
[07:20] <preaction> Araelius: so you haven't even installed it yet? did you tell ubuntu to use the correct hard drive?
[07:21] <gyaresu> j-red: Did you go to linux-printing.org?
[07:21] <thesUb-ZeRo> j-red: yeah, set it up on a cinderblock, get another cinder-block and make a sandwhich
[07:21] <Araelius> yes, I have actually installed Ubuntu many times before, this is the only time I have run into an issue
[07:21] <j-red> lol
[07:21] <j-red> not yet.
[07:21] <Araelius> also, no it isn't installed yet :)
[07:21] <thesUb-ZeRo> Araelius: so you cant boot into window?
[07:21] <Araelius> I can
[07:21] <thesUb-ZeRo> Araelius: then what is wrong?
[07:21] <Araelius> everything works fine, but I can't partition
[07:21] <thesUb-ZeRo> Araelius: partition what, with what?
[07:21] <gyaresu> j-red: http://linuxprinting.org (no hyphen)
[07:21] <dr-tofu> can i aptitude remove & aptitude install [ to reinstall, duno how else to.. ]  gdm?
[07:21] <preaction> Araelius: i meant THIS TIME. are you telling it that it can use the entire hard drive? that it can format as ext3?
[07:22] <ToddEDM> ok Araelius ,  i pasted it
[07:22] <j-red> whats the difference?
[07:22] <preaction> ToddEDM: what's the URL to the paste?
[07:22] <Araelius> i try to manually edit the partion of the main drive
[07:22] <thesUb-ZeRo> preaction: lol
[07:22] <ToddEDM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8336/
[07:22] <Araelius> partition*
[07:22] <happytron> what's the best way to write a bash script that recursively applies a command to every file in a subdirectory?
[07:22] <K3nto> im having problems running a windows application with crossover. its freezing
[07:22] <thesUb-ZeRo> Araelius: you cant mess with ntfs partitions soo far with gparted
[07:23] <gyaresu> happytron: 'man bash'
[07:23] <thesUb-ZeRo> Araelius: you cant shrink ntfs i think
[07:23] <Araelius> really, I am sure i have done it before
[07:23] <Ltar> what is X?
[07:23] <Araelius> maybe it was fat32 previously
[07:23] <gyaresu> thesUb-ZeRo: Yes. Just use a livecd with gparted.
[07:23] <preaction> Araelius: ntfs writing is still experimental, which is required for resizing
[07:23] <ohnonoagain> hi
[07:23] <starscalling> well.
[07:24] <gyaresu> Ltar: X11 is the makes graphics possible. A window manager makes somewhere for programmes to hang out.
[07:24] <j-red> it is telling me to install the 2 RPMS that I thinkI just installed.
[07:24] <techie> i followed the instructions for adding the ntfs-3g and instructions from link but do not get any results. somehow everything is just there on the terminal. could I post in here so that you can tell me what is wrong?
[07:24] <Araelius> really, I have used this system for years, I assumed it was always ntfs, but I guess it must have been fat32
[07:24] <j-red> how exactly am I supposed to install them?
[07:24] <herpez>  hi. i have an ATI x700 and when runnning beryl, it says "beryl: No composite extension" , but i cant enable composite in xorg.conf cause otherwise the ati driver dont load. How can i solve this?
[07:24] <happytron> that's a pretty lame answer
[07:24] <m1> I cant install flash player in edgy :
[07:24] <gyaresu> !pastebin | techie
[07:24] <ubotu> techie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:24] <m1> aargh
[07:24] <Araelius> i recently tried Vista on a fresh intall, maybe that had some effect when I reinstalled xp
[07:24] <Flannel> m1: what error are you getting?
[07:24] <gyaresu> techie: Let's have a look.
[07:25] <Bsew64> Hie People, where woud one likely find a person who could setup on our soon to be T1 linue with Debian or possible the unbunto    with cpanel.net software  is south florida area?
[07:25] <ohnonoagain> i have vlc but cannot play files that are on a windows pc on the network i can play them if they are stored on the ubuntu machine, any ideas?
[07:25] <techie> gyaresu can I do that even though I am out of the terminal.
[07:25] <ToddEDM> Araelius: see anything on thatpaste?
[07:25] <techie> meaning just go back to terminal and put tht command you gave me?
[07:25] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[07:25] <j-red> I already have the 2 rpms that it says to install. How do I install them?
[07:26] <Araelius> nothing
[07:26] <ToddEDM> yes, thats my audio card
[07:26] <m1> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[07:26] <NETWizz> My battery indicator sucks
[07:26] <gyaresu> techie: Can you copy paste into a pastebin?
[07:26] <NETWizz> WHat is wrong with the Ubuntu battery indicator?
[07:26] <Araelius> ok, I know for sure you can't change ntfs to fat32 unkess you format, am I correct in this assumption
[07:26] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: 'uname -a'
[07:26] <techie> gksu ntfs-config how do I find it since I am out of the terminal. do I repeat all the commands in here?
[07:26] <Flannel> j-red: help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto but find debs if y can
[07:26] <Araelius> unless*
[07:26] <SEJeff> Araelius: yes
[07:26] <Flannel> m1: what were you doing when you got that error?
[07:26] <j-red> debs? I'm really stupid with this stiff
[07:27] <m1> I was using gaim and firefox
[07:27] <ToddEDM> Linux ubuntu 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 15:34:39 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:27] <m1> nothing more
[07:27] <Flannel> j-red: instead of rpms (.rpm) Ubuntu uses deb (.deb)
[07:27] <ohnonoagain> anyone use vlc to play avi files across the network?
[07:27] <gyaresu> techie: why are you running ntfs-config?
[07:27] <Flannel> m1: er... so, How did you tell your computer to try and get flash?
[07:27] <Araelius> hmm, i just can't believe I changed the filesystem without knowing, well thanks for the help, you have saved me amny hours of frustration
[07:27] <j-red> oh ok
[07:27] <NETWizz> Hello
[07:27] <Araelius> many*
[07:27] <Flannel> j-red: Which program(s) are you installing?
[07:27] <gyaresu> techie: Do you have a terminal open on the machine you are working on?
[07:27] <m1> using psynaptic
[07:27] <j-red> I'm trying to get my printer working
[07:27] <ofeigsfjardt> gyaresu: http://dpaste.com/6359/ don't want to bug because i see that you are helpging someone else, but i just wanted to see if you got the message
[07:27] <NETWizz> My Ubuntu batery meter says 60% remaining 3 minutes
[07:27] <Araelius> I will just give the 2 seprate hard drives install a shot
[07:27] <NETWizz> Why does it shutdown on me?
[07:27] <techie> gyaresu I wanted to read my pds files I have in xp and read them from ubuntu
[07:28] <NETWizz> Widnows runs for about 5 hours on battery
[07:28] <NETWizz> Ubuntu runs for about 5 mintues
[07:28] <Flannel> m1: So, You weren't "just" using firefox and gaim, eh?  So, what package were you installing in synaptic?
[07:28] <SurfnKid> !w32codecs
[07:28] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[07:28] <NETWizz> but the laptop then has plenty of power to boot up
[07:28] <SurfnKid> !Codecs
[07:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:28] <techie> gyaresu the terminal is open now
[07:28] <gyaresu> techie: Did you install ntfs-3g?
[07:28] <ToddEDM> Araelius: Linux ubuntu 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 15:34:39 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:28] <m1> nonfree-flash
[07:28] <m1> or something called so
[07:28] <Araelius> going to give it a shot, see you guys in abit to bother you some more
[07:28] <Araelius> :)
[07:28] <j-red> the 2 rpms are called z600cups-2.0-2.i386.rpm and z600llpddk-2.0-1.i386.rpm
[07:28] <techie> <gyaresu i do not know whether they are installed or not
[07:28] <m1> flashplugin-nonfree
[07:28] <SEJeff> NETWizz: That is because of this thing called ACPI and different vendors implement it differently. Most of them are broken and they "fix" it by letting microsoft know how to hack around it.
[07:29] <Flannel> j-red: er... what programs are those?  cups... and llpddk? or what?
[07:29] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: No problem. You don't have a sound card installed. Maybe it's turned off in the bios.
[07:29] <SEJeff> NETWizz: Let me guess, you are using a newer laptop? Also, this is one of those things you can ignore. It will be fixed in time
[07:29] <NETWizz> My notbook isn't that new
[07:29] <j-red> those are 2 rpms that came frmo the lexmark z600 (not sure of model number) driver that are supposed to let me set up my lexmark z515 printer
[07:29] <ofeigsfjardt> gyaresu: i didn't see anything about it in the bios
[07:29] <NETWizz> It is a Core 2, Dell that is over 3 months old
[07:30] <gyaresu> techie: 'apt-get install ntfs-3g'
[07:30] <techie> gyaresu I have a bunch of or a list in my terminal right now.
[07:30] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: Is it the onboard sound or a card? Could it be broken?
[07:30] <gyaresu> techie: Sorry what?
[07:30] <Flannel> j-red: ah, alright.  SEe this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto
[07:30] <ToddEDM> my card isnt broken, just in ubuntu
[07:30] <j-red> yeah
[07:30] <SEJeff> techie: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g ntfs-config is the right command
[07:31] <SEJeff> techie: Are you very new to Linux?
[07:31] <Flannel> m1: alright, You're on dapper or edgy?
[07:31] <gyaresu> SEJeff: ntfs-config?
[07:31] <m1> edgy
[07:31] <gyaresu> SEJeff: you'what?
[07:31] <dr-tofu> concerning my earlier issue: there appears to be nothing wrong with gdm, as i reinstalled it and am still having the same issue
[07:32] <techie> yes very new... this is what i see there now.
[07:32] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: Try kdm for a short term fix then.
[07:32] <techie> main restricted universe multiverse
[07:32] <techie> # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:32] <techie> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted
[07:32] <techie> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted
[07:32] <techie> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security universe
[07:32] <techie> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security universe
[07:32] <techie> deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all
[07:32] <techie> wget http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/givre_key.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[07:32] <techie> sudo apt-get update
[07:32] <techie> sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:32] <Flannel> !paste | techie
[07:32] <ubotu> techie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:32] <techie> sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[07:32] <techie> gksu ntfs-config
[07:32] <gyaresu> techie: We did mention !pastebin
[07:32] <techie> yes
[07:32] <NETWizz> You are spamming
[07:32] <SEJeff> gyaresu: http://flomertens.free.fr/ntfs-config/
[07:33] <Flannel> m1: download this file: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_<IP_ADDRESS>.1ubuntu1~edgy1_i386.deb
[07:33] <SEJeff> techie: ok, minimize the terminal and go to System --> Administration --> Synaptic
[07:33] <Flannel> m1: (you'll want flash9 anyway)
[07:33] <m1> I think that I had installed flash before in the edgy desktopcd live
[07:33] <techie> gyaresu so what is going on?
[07:33] <SEJeff> techie: This way will be less frightening to you :)
[07:33] <m1> but don't remember how
[07:33] <m1> yeah
[07:33] <Flannel> m1: Whatever you do on the liveCD will have no affect on the system you installed
[07:33] <gyaresu> SEJeff: Thank you. I'm not into boxes so it's good to have someone like yourself around to make it easier for folks.
[07:33] <m1> yeah I know
[07:33] <Mythmon> ive got a question, if i were to put a secondary harddrive in a windows box could i dual boot ubuntu, and have ubuntu on the second drive, without messing with the windows install?
[07:33] <ToddEDM> gyaresu: lol sorry i was calling you Ayabara
[07:33] <Flannel> m1: then once you've downloaded that, double click it, or browse to it, and `sudo dpkg -i [filename] `
[07:33] <SEJeff> gyaresu: boxes?
[07:34] <mackinac> Mythmon:   yes, thats what i do
[07:34] <gyaresu> SEJeff: Gui's n things.
[07:34] <ToddEDM> gyaresu:  here is a paste for you :Linux ubuntu 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 15:34:39 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:34] <m1> I will try it
[07:34] <SEJeff> gyaresu: I am a 'nix sysadmin :)
[07:34] <Mythmon> alright, cause i want to install ubuntu, but i need to have windows
[07:34] <dr-tofu> gyaresu: after apt-get install kdm, what can i do to set it as the default instead of gnome?
[07:34] <SEJeff> techie: Do you have Synaptic open? This is easy to do and I'm going to walk you through it
[07:34] <gyaresu> SEJeff: Who happens to know about pretty boxes for 'humans'
[07:34] <mackinac> Mythmon:   they can be on the same drive too
[07:35] <ToddEDM> so i still need a lil help with getting my sound working
[07:35] <bugnthecode> I've been at this for hours and haven't seemed to make any progress. My table touchscreeen was working a earlier today, and now it's not. Anyone have experience with these?
[07:35] <Mythmon> ive tried that, and it didnt end well when i tried to take the linux off (space issues)
[07:35] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: as you install it one of the questions should be regarding just that...
[07:35] <SEJeff> gyaresu: Unix is friendly. It just picks who it will be friends with -somewhere from the internet
[07:36] <mackinac> Mythmon:   anyhow, I prefer the 2nd drive option myself :)
[07:36] <brokenarrow> lol
[07:36] <m1> I'm in the download page of flash but opera doesn't appear in the list
[07:36] <ryan8403> hello
[07:36] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: right.
[07:36] <ofeigsfjardt> gyaresu: onboard. i think it could be working. at least when i plug them in i can get normal pc speaker noises (beaps from the terminal and such)
[07:36] <j-red> so that I can clarify, is dapper 6.06 and edgy 6.10 ?
[07:36] <Flannel> j-red: correct
[07:36] <m1> only firefox, seamonkey and mozilla
[07:36] <j-red> ok thanks :)
[07:36] <me2win> anyone know how to add an item to startup in KDE?
[07:36] <techie> gyaresu is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8337/
[07:36] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: your lspci bets to differ. 'asound list' gave you nothing right?
[07:36] <ryan8403> I'm trying to play a dvd on my desktop followed the instructions from the support site but its still a no go
[07:37] <ofeigsfjardt> gyaresu: yeah nothing
[07:37] <gyaresu> techie: I think SEJeff was going to help you with that. If I'm wrong let me know.
[07:37] <ryan8403> its like totem doesn't recognize the dvd since I installed libdvdcss2 from medibuntu
[07:37] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: So I still say that there is no device relating to a sound card detected in that machine.
[07:37] <techie> I have not spoken to a jeff
[07:37] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: sorry.
[07:37] <ToddEDM> gyaresu:  dont you lose your train of thought with so many questuions comin at you ?
[07:37] <SEJeff> techie: System --> Administration --> Synaptic
[07:38] <Flannel> m1: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser  Opera isn't free software, as such, isn't "in" ubuntu, so you have to do some extra stuff
[07:38] <SEJeff> techie: Open up Synaptic and let me know when you are there
[07:38] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: S'aight. I'm just looking up that MCP51 chipset atm. Have you searched for similar problems/solutions from the website?
[07:38] <techie> <SEJeff I am there and it tells me an error has ocurred
[07:39] <techie> SEjeff I get the follwoing: E: Type 'wget' is not known on line 35 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:39] <techie> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[07:39] <techie> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[07:39] <gyaresu> techie: line 14: "yes". So does a box pop up for you after running 'gksu ntfs-config' ?
[07:39] <SEJeff> techie: Oh jesus, you must have broken something
[07:39] <ToddEDM> gyaresu:   no i havent actualy ,earlier i was trying to get my video card working... it doesnt seem to have the right drivers or something
[07:40] <techie> no, nothing appears
[07:40] <gyaresu> techie: SEJeff techie I leave you in capable hands.
[07:40] <SEJeff> techie: What you pasted earlier and linked gyaresu, was that the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:40] <SEJeff> gyaresu: Yeah, this is easy to see what he did
[07:40] <techie> so where do I go from here.
[07:40] <techie> should i get out of terminal
[07:41] <techie> or begin again
[07:41] <K3nto> I got crossover office pro; how do i use an already-installed windows application with it?
[07:41] <SEJeff> techie: Lets take this to a PM so it is easier to talk. 900 users in a channel makes it a bit of a pain sometimes, ok?
[07:41] <dr-tofu> are there any options aside from gdm and kdm that may be slimmed down and more customizable?
[07:41] <techie> understood, I am using xchat how do i pm to you from here
[07:41] <con-man> !botabuse | ubotu
[07:41] <ubotu> ubotu: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:41] <con-man> lololol
[07:42] <techie> I meant xchat
[07:42] <dr-tofu> gyaresu: btw switching to kdm solved the problem, thank you
[07:42] <Naik0> hey how do write if i want a file to have "-rwxr-xr-x" permission?
[07:42] <techie> SEjeff u still there?
[07:42] <brussel> Is this the correct way of suppressing screen output of a command in a bash script: "command 2>&1 | > /dev/null"?
[07:42] <Flannel> K3nto: this isn't a crossover office support channel, try asking in #crossover
[07:42] <SEJeff> techie: I pmed you, look in the PM
[07:42] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: Annoying but I thought it might. You're welcome.
[07:42] <K3nto> Flannel: they dont say anything back
[07:42] <Naik0> hey how do write if i want a file to have "-rwxr-xr-x" permission?
[07:42] <brokenarrow> chmod 755
[07:42] <gyaresu> Naik0: 'man chmod'
[07:43] <SEJeff> brussel: No. ./command >/dev/null 2>&1
[07:43] <j-red> ZOMG! ITS ALIVE ITS ALIVE!
[07:43] <j-red> I never knew the sound of my printer could bring such excitement to me!
[07:43] <brussel> sejeff, thanks
[07:43] <SEJeff> techie: Do you see the private message I sent you?
[07:43] <SEJeff> brussel: np
[07:44] <_`XeOn_> how do i fix this issue --> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:44] <j-red> Guys thanks for all your help
[07:44] <j-red> I really gotta go now since its almost 2 am and I'm really tired
[07:44] <SEJeff> _`XeOn_: close the update manager, or whatever else you have updating packages. If you have apt-get running in a terminal while you have the update-manager open, it will give you that error
[07:45] <gyaresu> _`XeOn_: you must have another package manager running somewhere...
[07:45] <_`XeOn_> but everything is closet
[07:45] <gyaresu> _`XeOn_: easiest to reboot. Or if it's really stuffed you can delete the lock file (not recommended)
[07:45] <_`XeOn_> closed*
[07:45] <dr-tofu> gyaresu: .... why does kdm look exactly like gdm?
[07:45] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: consistencey of prettiness.
[07:45] <Flannel> K3nto: http://www.codeweavers.com/support/docs/crossover-pro/troubleshooting  and their site has a help thing too
[07:46] <K3nto> ty
[07:46] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I can't seem to get my wacom tablet to work in Kubuntu.  Actually, it keeps seeing it as a mouse.  I do have the latest kernel drivers, along with wacom-tools and xorg drivers.  I don't know exactly where the problem lies.  I think it has to do with my udev (I've changed the udev for wacom a few times).  Any ideas?
[07:46] <techie> sejeff I am writing to you in the pm but I do not see you writing back.
[07:46] <_`XeOn_> man the problem started with the new update
[07:46] <_`XeOn_> ubuntu-doc
[07:46] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: You have differences if you want to start autologin and stuff cause it's from the kde end of the world but apart from that it's virtually the same.
[07:46] <Flannel> techie: you need to be registered/identified with freenode  to be able to query
[07:46] <mackinac> non-registered nicknames cant PM - just create a new channel
[07:46] <ToddEDM> this sux, i cant find a solution to my no sound problem
[07:46] <gyaresu> _`XeOn_: can you just reboot and see if that fixes it?
[07:47] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: You've searched the forums?
[07:47] <techie> i got it
[07:47] <_`XeOn_> ok im rebooting again
[07:47] <ToddEDM> i googled
[07:47] <techie> but you do not see me responding there in pm
[07:47] <kling0n> what are the chances of getting an updated libgphoto n the official edgy repos?
[07:47] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: I don't know whether the google spiders get the forums or not...
[07:47] <techie> SEJeff I am receiving and typing in pm but you do not get it
[07:47] <kling0n> i noticed a new version was out
[07:48] <gyaresu> kling0n: Asking for packages is a _very_ dangerous business...
[07:48] <techie> SEJeff so now I am going between this room and the pm
[07:48] <Flannel> kling0n: None.  Just bugfixes/security updates
[07:48] <ToddEDM> i see they get .de forums lol
[07:48] <m1> I'm getting strange errors when switching between firefox window and others applications
[07:48] <m1> like graphical garbage
[07:49] <kling0n> Flannel: but libgphoto *is* buggy.... canon compatibility is fixed in the new release :)
[07:49] <kling0n> gyaresu: how so?
[07:49] <atk_> Hi. I have to use irqpoll kernel option to get my hibernation working. How often it actually polls and what are the downsides of using this option?
[07:50] <kling0n> I've tried making my own build, but I am not really good enough at deb package management to prevent conflicts with the existing dependencies
[07:50] <techie> SEJeff getting a heachache going through so many windows in here. How do I add you the IM
[07:50] <gyaresu> kling0n: Posting bugs is fine but just asking for package updates can be considered annoying. Kind of like "so why havn't you updated these yet? They're available as source."
[07:50] <Flannel> kling0n: then the bugfixes may be patched into the current version.
[07:51] <SEJeff> techie: Applications --> Internet --> Gaim
[07:51] <techie> SEJeff do you want me to use gaim instead?
[07:51] <jack_deltrino> hi everyone
[07:51] <kling0n> gyaresu: I dont mean to moan or bitch... I was simply wondering
[07:51] <bkceem> I need to rename some files from .ico to .png. Is there any software or command that auto rename the file extension?
[07:51] <jack_deltrino> i have a linksys wmp11v4 properly recognized under ubuntu
[07:51] <jack_deltrino> i can't dhclient wlan0 for some reason
[07:51] <jack_deltrino> any thoughts?
[07:51] <Mythmon> bkceem: im not sure if it is as simple as that
[07:52] <kling0n> Flannel: IMO it doesnt make sense to backport between versions?
[07:52] <Mythmon> bkceem: i think you need a converter, not just a renamer
[07:52] <jack_deltrino> /etc/resolv.conf is the same as the machine i'm on right now
[07:52] <kling0n> Flannel: doesn't that make the versioning moot?
[07:52] <michael_> How do I get rid of a program that I added to my startup progs in preferences?
[07:52] <jack_deltrino> anyone?
[07:52] <michael_> from CL *
[07:52] <_`XeOn_> now i got this == E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:52] <kling0n> michael_: check $HOME/.autostart
[07:52] <SEJeff> techie: Well do you have an aim or yahoo account?
[07:53] <Ltar> what the hell
[07:53] <bkceem> Mythmon, I tried to rename from .ico to .png they worked perfectly. If you are concerning about if changing the file extension will damage the files
[07:53] <Ltar> I can't correct the clock
[07:53] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: found all the mcp51 threads on ubuntuforums.org ?
[07:53] <SEJeff> techie: If you do, it would be best to do it from the box that is broken. That way, you can IM me the contents of files. It makes it faster
[07:53] <Ltar> I am not allowed to access the system configuration
[07:53] <Crywulf> grrr, i updated ubuntu and now i cant get X to start. after a restart it just goes to command prompt..
[07:53] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: do you have the intel_hda_sound module loaded?
[07:53] <professor> hey guys
[07:53] <Mythmon> bkceem: alright, i guess ico and png are similar enough. I did not now this, i guess its safe to ignore me...
[07:53] <professor> how do I get wine to work
[07:53] <michael_> kling0n: there is no .autostart
[07:54] <Flannel> kling0n: no.  They just backport fixes.  And, it's still versioned.  But not quite the same.  You'll see versions like this: 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 (the current libgphoto2-2 version) which means 2.2.1 of 'official' then -2 means two debian specific updates, then "ubuntu4" means there have been four ubuntu specific updates ontop of that
[07:54] <Ltar> am i going to have to launch a root terminal to change the clock time? I thought ubuntu was supposed to be more user-friendly than debian.
[07:54] <Mythmon> bkceem: though i cant help you with your renaming problem :/
[07:54] <gyaresu> Crywulf: You might need to reinstall nvidia-glx
[07:54] <kling0n> michael_: check system-session then
[07:54] <bkceem> Mythmon, so there is no command to auto rename the file extension?
[07:54] <professor> when I click on a exe file I get an error message 6006 says that I have to close all programs down before running it
[07:54] <Flannel> Ltar: Why do you need to do that?
[07:54] <michael_> kling0n: where's that?
[07:54] <bkceem> Mythmon, thanks though :)
[07:54] <kling0n> Flannel: okies... makes sense :)
[07:54] <Flannel> Ltar: why not just use ntp?
[07:54] <_`XeOn_> !wine | professor
[07:54] <ubotu> professor: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:54] <kling0n> michael_: in your gnome menu
[07:54] <Mythmon> bkceem, i do not know, im only here to get help on installing ubuntu later tonight, after i get the iso
[07:54] <Flannel> Ltar: and, you use sudo, not a root terminal.
[07:55] <Ltar> Flannel: because linux says it's 3:00 AM when, in fact, it is not.
[07:55] <michael_> kling0n: I can't load gnome
[07:55] <Flannel> Ltar: you're right, thats five minutes fast.
[07:55] <michael_> kling0n: I need to do it fdrom command line
[07:55] <SEJeff> techie: Are you a registered user? If you aren't that is probably why you can't send private messages
[07:55] <Flannel> Ltar: use ntp (sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com) to update, or if you want some other ntp-related things: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/NTP.html
[07:55] <Ltar> Flannel: no, it's 4 hours fast
[07:56] <Flannel> Ltar: er, you sure your timezone is correct?
[07:56] <Ltar> Flannel: yes
[07:56] <techie> Sejeff I am not a registered user
[07:56] <techie> I tried to put you on IM and it tells me you are not there or logged in
[07:56] <Flannel> Ltar: alright, then it's three hours fast.  Why did you have your system clock set three hours fast?  NTP will fix that, at any rate.
[07:56] <Ltar> Flannel: -8:00 GMT, but it doesn't seem to be doing anything this that information. nevermind, I found the clock tool under the administrative tools
[07:57] <emet> is there a macosx dock thing for gnome
[07:57] <_`XeOn_> what to do now with this output --> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:57] <lanaz> hem, could you tell me g++ compiler on linux whit gui? becouse it isnt comfortible to write source in gedit and run make form console.. =/
[07:57] <Ltar> Flannel: this is a fresh install of ubuntu
[07:57] <SEJeff> techie: That is why you can't send private messages. Just do that and it will be easier for me to help you
[07:57] <gyaresu> _`XeOn_: Just do what it suggests.
[07:57] <jack_deltrino> can someone please help me?
[07:57] <r00t_> hello
[07:57] <gyaresu> !help
[07:57] <_`XeOn_> i did it before and i got frozzed
[07:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:57] <starscalling> jack_deltrino one sec
[07:57] <techie> SEJeff how do I register
[07:58] <gyaresu> !question
[07:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:58] <michael_> Can somebody please tell me how to get rid of a program listed in my startup programs in my preferences from the command line?
[07:58] <starscalling> gyaresu he already had
[07:58] <_`XeOn_> the install of ubuntu-doc frezzes
[07:58] <kling0n> michael_: take a look at $HOME/.gnome2/session then
[07:58] <techie> SEJeff plese give me to command to paste in here to register
[07:58] <deFrysk> michael_, go to sessions and unselect the selected progs
[07:58] <jack_deltrino> lanaz: you could use eclipse, kdevelop, et al, but with a text editor like vim and key mappings, you have so much more control and retain knowledge so much better
[07:58] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: thanks
[07:58] <lanaz> hem, could you tell me g++ compiler on linux whit gui? becouse it isnt comfortible to write source in gedit and run make form console.. =/ im new in cpp..
[07:58] <starscalling> np
[07:58] <SEJeff> techie: I gave it to you. Read your pm
[07:58] <michael_> deFrysk: "command line"
[07:58] <techie> ok
[07:58] <SEJeff>  /msg nickserv register password
[07:58] <lanaz> jack_deltrino:  ty
[07:59] <SEJeff> techie: where password is whatever you want it to actually be
[07:59] <kling0n> michael_: should look something like this: session:19,RestartCommand=<program name>
[07:59] <Ltar> why doesn't ubuntu's installation of Open office include OO math?
[07:59] <emet> is there a macosx dock thing for gnome ?
[07:59] <starscalling> try gnome-iconedit
[07:59] <starscalling> sudo apt-get install gnome-iconedit
[07:59] <jack_deltrino> lanaz: honestly, that's something you should google before impulsively asking though
[07:59] <Crywulf> hello
[07:59] <rosli> hi eveeryone
[07:59] <r00t_> anyone know about beryl? I tried the beryl channel but they are saying nothing? I really would like to get this figured out, thanks for the help
[07:59] <starscalling> also jack_deltrino
[07:59] <kling0n> !openoffice.org-math|Ltar
[07:59] <ubotu> ltar: openoffice.org-math: OpenOffice.org office suite - equation editor. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 292 kB, installed size 1040 kB
[07:59] <starscalling> im fairly certain that you can open said .ico with gimp
[07:59] <Flannel> r00t_: see #ubuntu-effects (check the topic)
[08:00] <techie> ok SEJeff i have a password now to register... what is next?
[08:00] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: you have me confused without someone else
[08:00] <r00t_> thanks
[08:00] <starscalling> and it has a nice handy feature where you can save as and choose extension and by choosing said extension it saves in correct format for that extension
[08:00] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: i asked about networking, so i guess my question was lost in the stream of consciousness that is irc
[08:00] <ofeigsfjardt> gyaresu: ok well thanks anyway for your help
[08:00] <SEJeff> techie: /msg nickserv identify password
[08:00] <jack_deltrino> i have a linksys wmp11v4 properly recognized under ubuntu
[08:00] <lanaz> jack_deltrino: its bad habbit of mine =/ ill try to lose it ;)
[08:00] <starscalling> oh indeed i have... bkceem that was for you
[08:00] <jack_deltrino> i can't dhclient wlan0 for some reason
[08:00] <rosli> do you quys know of a simple way (preferebly via apt-get) to update firefox in drapper drake to the latest version 2.0.02
[08:00] <Ltar> how to install OO.org math, then?
[08:00] <SEJeff> techie: Then send me an IM after you did that
[08:00] <jack_deltrino> /etc/resolv.conf is the same as the machine i'm on right now
[08:00] <Flannel> rosli: firefox 2.0 isn't available in dapper
[08:00] <starscalling> jack_deltrino you have the linksys problem?
[08:00] <jack_deltrino> if i sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning i see the essid
[08:00] <colbert> Anyone here know if installing GRUB on a Vista drive would be a problem? I had it on my XP drive but just curious
[08:00] <jack_deltrino> i'm using wep, and i enter the key in after sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid MYNETWORK by sudo iwconfig wlan0 key<PHONE_NUMBER>
[08:00] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: Sorry. Without 'lspci' finding a sound device we can't go much further...
[08:00] <deFrysk> rosli, you dont,
[08:01] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: yes
[08:01] <starscalling> oh
[08:01] <starscalling> good luck.
[08:01] <jack_deltrino> this channel has a lot of unnecessary confusion
[08:01] <_`XeOn_> look Setting up ubuntu-docs (<IP_ADDRESS>) ... and get stuck there!
[08:01] <starscalling> i suggest changing mode to ad-hoc
[08:01] <_`XeOn_> grrr
[08:01] <starscalling> defining speed
[08:01] <techie> SEJeff i just did
[08:01] <l2s> hi
[08:01] <michael_> kling0n: I can't find it
[08:01] <starscalling> and correct channel
[08:01] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: are you talking to me?
[08:01] <techie> and then you a pm via SEJeff
[08:01] <starscalling> jack_deltrino yes.
[08:01] <l2s> my remote ubuntu desktop 6.10 box keeps turning its network card off and you cannot ping it remotely
[08:01] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: what does that have to do with dhcp?
[08:01] <l2s> anyone know why this would happen?
[08:01] <michael_> kling0n: there is no .gnome2/sessions
[08:01] <kling0n> michael_: you might not have one then
[08:02] <l2s> power mgt is shut off in the control panel
[08:02] <michael_> kling0n: :S :@
[08:02] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: the card works perfectly, detects the essid, etc. it's just dhclient doesn't grab an ip
[08:02] <kling0n> michael_: its .gnome2/session
[08:02] <kling0n> without trailing s
[08:02] <Crywulf> i recently updated ubuntu and went to run wine and ubuntu X would crash to login. re-installed nvidia drivers now ubuntu wont boot to X just console.
[08:02] <starscalling> try turning off wep
[08:02] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: ...
[08:02] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: why?
[08:02] <kling0n> michael_: what is the problem exactly
[08:02] <kling0n> ?
[08:02] <starscalling> !nvidia
[08:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:02] <michael_> kling0n: don't have that either
[08:02] <SEJeff> techie: Did you see a message back from nickserv saying something about being identified?
[08:02] <gyaresu> l2s: you need to provide log files for us to assess the problem
[08:02] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: it works with this machine
[08:02] <mackinac> SEJeff, you two could just start a new random channel... like " /join #sejeff "
[08:02] <starscalling> jack_deltrino its notoriously painful to get it to work
[08:02] <l2s> which log?
[08:02] <starscalling> jack_deltrino
[08:02] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: but this machine is not ubuntu.
[08:02] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: no it's not
[08:02] <SEJeff> mackinac: thanks for the idea, this is a bit painful
[08:02] <michael_> kling0n: one if the progs is killing my X session
[08:02] <memilanuk> anyone have a way to find out which model of Linksys 54G wireless card I have? (short of yanking the card out of the machine)
[08:02] <starscalling> yes it is.
[08:03] <Q_Continuum> eck: ping
[08:03] <gyaresu> l2s: 'dmesg' '/var/log/messages'
[08:03] <starscalling> whatever bork off.
[08:03] <techie> SEJeff no message back about identification
[08:03] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: i'm on a gentoo box, which is infinitely more difficult than ubuntu and it was waaay easy to setup
[08:03] <l2s> ok will try now as a friend reboots it
[08:03] <gyaresu> memilanuk: 'lspci'
[08:03] <kling0n> michael_: which one?
[08:03] <l2s> thanks gyaresu
[08:03] <gyaresu> l2s: np
[08:04] <kling0n> michael_: take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:04] <techie> where are you now SEJeff
[08:04] <michael_> kling0n: found it, thanks
[08:04] <SEJeff> techie: type /join #techie
[08:04] <memilanuk> gyaresu any way from WinXP?  It takes a while to shut everything down and boot back up, only to find bad news and have to reboot to XP again to look for more help
[08:05] <yeniklasor> hi
[08:05] <yeniklasor> hi
[08:05] <drew> hello
[08:05] <yeniklasor> how can I edit /etc/environment
[08:05] <drew> anyone know if there is a feisty channel
[08:05] <Flannel> drew: #ubuntu+1
[08:05] <mackinac> drew:   #ubuntu+1
[08:05] <_`XeOn_> !loki
[08:05] <drew> sudo nano /etc/enviorment
[08:05] <drew> thanks
[08:05] <ubotu> loki: [Biology]  MCMC linkage analysis on general pedigrees. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (edgy), package size 332 kB, installed size 824 kB
[08:05] <_`XeOn_> ahahah
[08:06] <_`XeOn_> ubotu i wasnt looking for that loki
[08:06] <gyaresu> memilanuk: sorry. on the phone. I'll be about 5min.
[08:07] <memilanuk> np, I'm looking thru the forums as well ;)
[08:07] <mackinac> !bot | _`XeOn_
[08:07] <ubotu> _`XeOn_: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:07] <yeniklasor> how can I edit /etc/environment
[08:07] <_`XeOn_> mackinac, i know is a bot
[08:07] <preaction> yeniklasor: what is /etc/environment?
[08:07] <_`XeOn_> :)
[08:07] <yeniklasor> a file
[08:08] <preaction> yeniklasor: sudo nano /etc/environment, but why?
[08:08] <yeniklasor> I must select default language
[08:09] <brokenarrow> ubuntu 6.10 and daylight savings any worries here?
[08:09] <preaction> brokenarrow: um... why would there be?
[08:09] <yomm> xeon if you know he is a bot why do you talk to him ?
[08:09] <yomm> :p
[08:09] <l2s> anyone here install ubuntu on a dell 6350 with perc 2 raid?
 thanks
[08:09] <l2s> 6.06 server lts won't work at all but 6.10 desktop installs fine
[08:09] <brokenarrow> didn't think so but I run some old hardware
[08:09] <Crywulf> i read over the nvidia install at the link provided but i cant even get into X to use that method.  i orginally used tseliots method 2.
[08:10] <preaction> brokenarrow: daylight savings is software, so you should be fine
[08:10] <ToddEDM> i cant find anything on the ubuntu forums gyaresu
[08:10] <_`XeOn_> yomm, cuz was funy i asked for loki installer and he said biowhatever
[08:10] <brokenarrow> cool
[08:11] <ToddEDM> ok forget the sound, could someon help me get my video drivers installed?... i just downloaded them from nvidias site
[08:11] <l2s> when does support for 6.10 stop?
[08:12] <yomm> My keyboard Volume keys are not recognized , where do I start looking ?
[08:12] <Mythmon> l2s: april2008
[08:12] <jeffwheeler> Is there any way to interface with a TI-84+ over USB, and connect so that I can write C apps and the like to the calc?
[08:12] <l2s> ok thats not bad
[08:13] <zigma> Hi all
[08:13] <l2s> since server wont install im forced to use desktop
[08:13] <yomm> 12s server won't install ?
[08:13] <l2s> i think its having problems with the perc 2 raid in 6.06 lts server
[08:13] <DarkX> jeffwheeler, last i remeber the TI interface was just USB to serial
[08:13] <yomm> 12s : and Desktop does ?
[08:13] <l2s> 6.10 desktop does
[08:13] <l2s> 6.06 server does not
[08:13] <DarkX> so you may have beeter luck with other interface
[08:13] <zigma> Is ubuntu free...
[08:13] <jeffwheeler> DarkX: yeah, but is there any app that actually can use this?
[08:13] <Flannel> l2s: Grab the alterate CD, install the GUI-less
[08:14] <jeffwheeler> zigma: yes
[08:14] <Flannel> zigma: of course
[08:14] <l2s> why would gui solve a server install problem?
[08:14] <mackinac> free as in nachos
[08:14] <yomm> 12s : yes ; do a command line install
[08:14] <Flannel> l2s: Server CD has less hardware support
[08:14] <zigma> Thanks..
[08:14] <l2s> its the raid that seems to be not detected
[08:14] <jeffwheeler> l2s: I was looking for something that would automate the process of downloading the apps to the calculator.
[08:15] <l2s> ok bit weird since dell made a million of these servers
[08:15] <l2s> but i can try it i guess
[08:15] <yomm> l2s: Linux & hardware raid is on a lot of cases ermm .. unsupported :)
[08:15] <Flannel> jeffwheeler: you don't write C apps, you write either assembly or TI-basic
[08:15] <l2s> yea but this is a stock dell box
[08:15] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: I'm not really here atm but: you don't need the drivers from the nvidia site. You can just enable the !repos and install http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy like that.
[08:15] <l2s> that is old so its weird
[08:15] <l2s> freebsd 4 installed with zero issue 2 years ago
[08:15] <jeffwheeler> Flannel: you sure? There's a TIGCC compilre available, so I assume the same can be done for lower-level calcs, right?
[08:15] <yomm> 12s , none of my linux boxes recognize tje onbaord raid controllers
[08:16] <l2s> http://www-gatago.com/linux/debian/user/36702354.html
[08:16] <Flannel> l2s: shrug.  Try the alternate CD, it should detect the same hardware the Desktop does.  You can install a GUI-less box, and then try the -server kernel
[08:16] <l2s> heres an example but not the cd
[08:16] <l2s> ok flannel i am downloading it now
[08:16] <Flannel> jeffwheeler: that's.. equivalent to writing assembly, I suppose.
[08:17] <DarkX> jeffwheeler, its a microcontroller..not a multi task CPU
[08:17] <l2s> would that be better than just using desktop as a server?
[08:17] <ToddEDM> hey guys, how can i change to root , to install something in the console
[08:17] <DarkX> so im pretty sure your limited to TIBasic
[08:17] <kling0n> is there a repo for "untested" backports?
[08:17] <l2s> todd sudo whatevercommand you want
[08:17] <ToddEDM> no i need to log out of this uder?
[08:17] <ToddEDM> ohhh ok
[08:17] <Flannel> jeffwheeler: I'm not sure the TI-84 has ASM hooks though.  I know the 85 didn't, that's why you had to use zshell to bootstrap
[08:17] <kling0n> I can find an updated pkg for libgphoto at launchpad, but It seems that packages are only released there
[08:17] <DarkX> i cant find any linux support for it..id sujest using VMWare and let it pick up the USB devicde
[08:18] <DarkX> n just use the USB device that way
[08:18] <l2s> would desktop run as an ok server?
[08:18] <jeffwheeler> DarkX: me?
[08:18] <DarkX> yup jeff
[08:18] <Flannel> l2s: yep.  Except you'd have the GUI stuff sitting there running as well
[08:18] <mike-db> Clearly eh? Alright my problem is that when I try to resize a partition I get an error saying that my Hard drive is damaged... With help from someone he came to the conclusion that I had to reformat my hard drive, but I'm without a win xp cd does anyone have a work around for this?
[08:18] <Flannel> l2s: *nix doesn't really care what you use it as (desktop, server, toaster, whatever)
[08:19] <skinol> lol
[08:19] <yomm> Would I have problems of shifting my RAID5 mdadm array from 6.10 to 6.06 ? is MDADM the same version on 6.06 & 6.10 ?
[08:19] <l2s> i think i can just set it to not run x by default right?
[08:19] <Bakefy> I just freshly installed ubuntu, I have noticed I have no sound.
[08:19] <broken> hello, people
[08:19] <Bakefy> where can I look to install my sound driver?
[08:20] <Flannel> jeffwheeler: yeah, 84 has assembly support, or machine code support, that is.  You should be good.
[08:20] <jeffwheeler> Flannel: alright, but I still don't see how I should be able to get it on there... :-/
[08:20] <Flannel> l2s: just grab the alternate CD, install the "server" option, and never have a GUI
[08:20] <l2s> ok
[08:20] <yomm> lol
[08:20] <Flannel> jeffwheeler: shrug.  No idea.  I've got a serial cable ;)
[08:20] <l2s> will give it a shot
[08:20] <l2s> its downloading
[08:20] <Bakefy> nevermind, i fixed it
[08:20] <jeffwheeler> Flannel: ha, alright; thanks. I'll see what I can come up with.
[08:21] <ToddEDM> ok guys, im trying to install my vidie drivers, and i got an error so i checked the .log file and here it is ..... ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing.
[08:21] <ToddEDM> how do i stop the Xserver
[08:21] <DarkX> jeffwheeler, id recomend going in windows n using the serial interface..sniffing the serial link...see what kidna protocol it uses
[08:21] <DarkX> it may be simple as using some kind of XModem
[08:21] <skinol> 6.12pl rulez :]
[08:21] <mike-db> Is the person with a star beside his name god?
[08:21] <broken> anyone know how to play midi files using timidity? I can't find the gtk interface, but synaptic says it's installed
[08:21] <mike-db> or her...
[08:21] <jeffwheeler> DarkX: from some Googling, it looks pretty closed
[08:22] <Flannel> jeffwheeler, DarkX, guarenteed you don't need to do that, It's already on the web somewhere.
[08:22] <jeffwheeler> Flannel, DarkX: I see Tilp (and its dependencies) seem to have gone somewhere.
[08:22] <ToddEDM> anyone know how to stop X from the command line?
[08:22] <Flannel> jeffwheeler: I imagine it's the exact same protocol theyve been using on that family.  Check for 83 and 82 protocols as well.
[08:23] <jeffwheeler> Flannel: likely; will do
[08:23] <DarkX> jeffwheeler, found something
[08:23] <DarkX> http://www.ticalc.org/basics/linking/software.html
[08:23] <Flannel> jeffwheeler, DarkX, this is offtopic though.  #ubuntu-offtopic if you have any more TI- stuff jeffwheeler ;)
[08:23] <yomm> ToddEDM : u runnung Ubuntu 6.10 ?
[08:23] <jeffwheeler> Flannel: no problem; thanks for your help
[08:24] <yomm> ToddEDM : sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:24] <yomm> or "kdm" if you run Kubuntu
[08:24] <xreyye> How can I determine which partition/drive my windows partition is on for use with GRUB?
[08:26] <xreyye> I did sudo fdisk -l, which lists windows partition as hda5 but I just dont know how to add that to grub config
[08:26] <jack_deltrino> why does dhclient wlan0 fail? i'm on the same network as the machine on which dhclient wlan0 fails
[08:26] <jack_deltrino> /etc/resolv.conf on both machines is synchronized
[08:27] <zigma> Can ubuntu run on core 2 duo processor
[08:27] <Flannel> xreyye: hda5 is hd0,4
[08:28] <ToddEDM> ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing.
[08:28] <zigma> Can ubuntu run on core 2 duo processor
[08:28] <ToddEDM> thats the error i get, how do i exit X
[08:28] <atk_> zigma: don't spam the channel
[08:28] <zigma> Ok sorry
[08:28] <ToddEDM> zigma: i havent done it, but im sure it can
[08:29] <genii> xreyye add to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:29] <genii> title Windows
[08:29] <genii> rootnoverify (hd0,4)
[08:29] <genii> makeactive
[08:29] <genii> chainloader  +1
[08:29] <xreyye> Flannel: thanks, I must have screwed up something then, when I tried hd(0,4) in grub it gave me an error, something to do with Nt...something not detected
[08:29] <ToddEDM> im running mine in turion64 x2
[08:29] <zigma> Thanks todd i heard core 2 doesnt support linux
[08:29] <ToddEDM> ohhh i dont know
[08:29] <ToddEDM> try google
[08:29] <ToddEDM> should be there
[08:29] <ToddEDM> thats big news
[08:30] <seeds> hello. please i need to know how to view the running processes in ubuntu. I'm trying to open firefox but it says that it's already running
[08:30] <xreyye> Hmm I didn't write the "noverify" party, maybe thats my problem
[08:31] <genii> seeds You can use alt-tab like in windoze to cycle thru apps and then close multiple instances
[08:32] <Flannel> seeds: Uh, gnome has a viewer, don't remember what it's called.  It's in accessories, I think.  Also, there's "ps"
[08:32] <seeds> ps?
[08:32] <atk_> seeds: you probably have a downloads window open somewhere. System menu -> Preferences -> System monitor
[08:32] <mackinac> "core 2 doesn't support linux" = false :s
[08:32] <atk_> my mistake, System menu -> Administration -> System Monitor
[08:33] <seeds> oh great atk thanks
[08:33] <seeds> thanks all indeed
[08:34] <h3h_timo> could someone help me with playing mp4 files??
[08:36] <mackinac> !restricted > h3h_timo
[08:37] <yomm>  Toddem : I told you before how to do it
[08:37] <h3h_timo> mackinac, thanks, but its not helpin
[08:38] <yomm> toddell : nm , my page didnt scroll , my bad :)
[08:38] <mackinac> h3h_timo:   what the dealio then
[08:38] <h3h_timo> mackinac, well, i installed all the multimedia codecs from the starter guide, and i can play all other files except for files with mp4 audio
[08:39] <xreyye> Grub is telling me Error 12: Invalid device requested
[08:40] <l2s> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326377
[08:40] <l2s> heh found someone with a similar problem
[08:40] <h3h_timo> is there a reason that when i installed dvd support it wouldve messed up gstreamer?
[08:41] <xreyye> I did rootnoverify hd(0,4) with fdisk telling me windows partition is hda5
[08:41] <pete> mikedb: you still there?
[08:42] <mackinac> h3h_timo:   did mp4 work before, then break?
[08:42] <h3h_timo> im not sure, i dont remember
[08:42] <mackinac> h3h_timo:   do you have gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[08:42] <h3h_timo> let me check
[08:43] <Desp_> hi all
[08:43] <Desp_> how to fix this
[08:43] <Desp_> You don't see to be running an X server (no DISPLAY set).
[08:43] <Desp_> Google Earth and its installer both require X11.
[08:43] <h3h_timo> mackinac, it isnt showing them in the terminal hold on im gonna check in synaptic
[08:43] <Desp_> Iam tring to install google earth
[08:43] <xreyye> this is killing me
[08:44] <h3h_timo> mackinac, yeah, its installed, is there a reason that gstreamer wouldnt be the main decoder of audio??
[08:44] <mackinac> hmmm
[08:44] <mackinac> maybe xine
[08:45] <reyn> Hi, I tried installing beryl. I had some nvidia driver issues, restored by old xorg.conf and restarted. I'm now sitting with kde without a desktop or window decorations ... how do I get those back ?
[08:45] <Chameleon22> hi all, I just noticed a file in lost+found dir. (dr-sr---wx  2 779382894<PHONE_NUMBER>  24K 1970-01-30 06:00 #22594723). User nor the group with those numbers exists. When I try to delete the file (as root) I get: rm: cannot remove directory `#22594723/': Operation not permitted. Directory it self is empty. Any ideas on how I can delete this bugger?
[08:45] <LastMall> rikkus is causing problems in other channels. Is he a common problem here ?
[08:45] <h3h_timo> mackinac, what do you think i should do?
[08:45] <eck> Q_Continuum: i'm here now
[08:46] <mackinac> h3h_timo:   what *I* would do is try VLC media player
[08:47] <h3h_timo> mackinac, yeah, vlc plays em, it plays all, but i wanna play em from inside either songbird or exaile!
[08:47] <mackinac> h3h_timo:   sorry, its beyond my kb
[08:48] <eck> Chameleon22: of course, you need write permissions
[08:48] <eck> i think you can just chmod it
[08:48] <h3h_timo> thanks tho
[08:48] <eck> i would peek inside it to see what it is though
[08:48] <atk_> reyn: try going to the beryl site and look up the wiki, the answer is there
[08:49] <Chameleon22> eck, even if i am root!?
[08:49] <reyn> atk_: mkay
[08:49] <Chameleon22> eck, it doesnt even let me reassign permissions when i try to (as root)
[08:49] <eck> hm
[08:49] <eck> i think the files in their might just go away eventually
[08:50] <eck> or else you can probably remove it in single user mode
[08:50] <eck> it might have an immutable attribute
[08:50] <eck> (just a guess)
[08:50] <mackinac> h3h_timo:   got libmp4v2-0 ?
[08:50] <eck> check with lsattr
[08:50] <mackinac> meh they left
[08:50] <Chameleon22> eck, well go away eventually is not a solution... here is the "file" command output if that helps: #22594723/: setuid directory
[08:53] <reyn> anyone know the binary name of the kde control center ?
[08:53] <eck> Chameleon22: also i am not sure if this will actually happen to lost+found files, but check the reference count on the file
[08:53] <Chameleon22> eck, how?
[08:53] <eck> Chameleon22: the number to the right of the permissions in ls -l
[08:53] <eck> it should be two for a directory
[08:54] <Chameleon22> eck just PM'd you
[08:56] <Arcad3> hi.i'm conected with ssh to a pc and i run a shoutcast radio.if i close the terminal the radio shuts down ..
[08:56] <Arcad3> is there a way to run it as daemon?
[09:00] <Ltar> how do I stop ubuntu from locking the desktop after X period of inactivity?
[09:00] <Jordan_U> My computer no longer boots
[09:00] <genii> Arcad3 Yes, run it with -d switch ("detach from console")
[09:00] <Jordan_U> Ltar: It's in screensaver preferences I believe
[09:01] <dv_> hmm
[09:01] <dv_> from what I see, i965 boards are not working in edgy?
[09:01] <dv_> bad :/ I am about to get an intel classic series board with a 965. is feisty herd 5 stable enough to use?
[09:01] <Ltar> Jordan_U: screensaver..... lets me adjust time untill idle
[09:02] <Ltar> alrite, I see it, thanks
[09:04] <h3h_timo> mackinac, you still there?
[09:05] <mackinac> ya
[09:06] <steelb> someone say my name
[09:06] <mackinac> my name
[09:07] <mackinac> steelb
[09:07] <steelb> thanks
[09:07] <kbd> What is this the R Kelly hour?
[09:07] <genii> dv_ I'm having issues with Feisty at the moment on my laptop (for testing). I would stick with Edgy right now for stability
[09:08] <kbd> hahaha, you said Edgy and stability in the same sentence. That's funny.
[09:08] <genii> kbd Compared to Feisty, it is
[09:08] <Episcopus> i just installed edgy and am trying to get my netgear MA311 wlan card working.  this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsNetgear says Detected as eth0 and started working after modules.conf was edited (wlan0 to eth0)
[09:08] <kbd> Compared to nitrogliceran?
[09:08] <erikja> !burning >erikja
[09:08] <Episcopus> how do i make the card work?
[09:08] <genii> kbd Tho I am generally still running Dapper on most of my boxes
[09:09] <kbd> genii: I am not satisfied with x86_64 Edgy :/
[09:09] <kbd> But maybe, I wouldn't be satisfied with * x86_64....
[09:10] <genii> kbd The 64 versions still have weird issues as well, yeah
[09:10] <xelados> What's the terminal command to view current processes, and then force them to exit?
[09:10] <xelados> I've forgotten it...
[09:10] <dv_> genii, the thing is, I dont see many options for a 965 board.
[09:10] <erikja> !nautilus >erikja
[09:11] <dv_> or I am missing something
[09:11] <Jordan_U> xelados: top
[09:11] <xelados> and to kill a process?
[09:11] <genii> dv_ The default SMP kernel will run dual-core cpus no problemmo
[09:11] <Jordan_U> xelados: kill or killall
[09:11] <kbd> genii: I wonder if it is because less devs or submitters are x86_64
[09:11] <xelados> alright, thanks
[09:11] <bullgard2> Gaim: Can you please tell me what is 'freenode-connect'? I did not find a definition.
[09:12] <dv_> genii, the forums are filled with people complaining about installation issues related to the JMicron controller in 965 boards
[09:12] <erikja> !nautilus cd burner >erikja
[09:12] <genii> kbd I suspect the codebase for i386 is just larger and older
[09:12] <bullgard2> Can you please tell me what is 'freenode-connect' in Gaim? I did not find a definition.
[09:13] <graulich> how do I locate my ntfs partitions in /dev/?
[09:13] <erikja> !gnomebaker >erikja
[09:13] <genii> dv_ Ah, is that a SATA controller or some odd proprietary thing for some other device?
[09:13] <bullgard2> graulich: run gedit
[09:14] <graulich> bullgard2: and then?
[09:14] <bullgard2> look at its output.
[09:14] <graulich> gedit? but it's just a text editor...
[09:15] <dv_> oh its the pata controller
[09:15] <bullgard2> graulich: I made a mistake. I meant 'gparted' Xcuse pse
[09:16] <graulich> ok thanks bullgard2
[09:16] <kbd> I need some help fixing gnome for a user account on this Edgy (upgraded from Dapper). I tried installing an mouse theme but it all went horribly wrong and the theme was malformed and gnome quit working. I suppose I need to regenerate configuration files and folders for gnome, or perhaps there is a lock issue... I don't know really. But gnome-settings-daemon or gnome-session are unable to connect to dbus. :/
[09:16] <genii> dv_ Ah, I find it is a SATA controller. It seems booting with kernel parameter:   all-generic-ide irqpoll    helps with this
[09:16] <kbd> Gnome, meanwhile, works for all other users on the same machine.
[09:16] <dv_> k
[09:17] <dv_> I'm going to get a SATA dvd drive too, no pata stuff at all,
[09:17] <dv_> so this might help if it is used as a pata controller
[09:17] <Episcopus> can anyone help me get my netgear MA311 wireless card to work? edgy finds it, but doesn't let it connect to my wireless network
[09:17] <dv_> but thanks
[09:17] <kbd> Episcopus: you've tried ndiswrapper?
[09:18] <Episcopus> i went here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsNetgear and it says it is supposed to be supported
[09:18] <kbd> How do you connect to your wireless network?
[09:19] <Episcopus> kbd: what do you mean how? WEP
[09:19] <kbd> Are you sure your system is capable of using WEP? I've had trouble in Dapper...
[09:20] <george> Is there a super_noob channel or can we just ask really dumb questions in here :p?
[09:20] <Episcopus> kbd: no, i'm not sure. how would i find out? i would like to stay mildly protected considering the computer i am typing on right now is still windows
[09:21] <graulich> is there any reason other than personal preference to take slab instead of uslab?
[09:21] <kbd> Go to System->Administration->System Log
[09:21] <Flannel> george: this is it ;)
[09:21] <genii> !ask | george
[09:21] <ubotu> george: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:21] <Episcopus> kbd: ok, there
[09:21] <kbd> And try to use wep with iwconfig
[09:22] <Episcopus> kbd: hold on, i am brand new. do what now?
[09:22] <kbd> If your system encounters a problem trying to use WEP it should show up in the logs
[09:22] <balrok> hi i search something which is similar to the launchpad.. cause i want this for my projects too.. do you know something?
[09:22] <kbd> ah
[09:23] <george> I just downloaded the 6.10 iso and burnt it. (first time trying to install linux). When i boot the CD and if i try boot ubuntu or ubuntu (video safe mode) the screen just gets crazy orange/tan lines on it
[09:23] <Episcopus> kbd:  :)
[09:23] <kbd> !iwconfig >kbd
[09:23] <kbd> gsh... ubotu is ignorant
[09:23] <george> I have a core 2 duo 6400, geforce 7950gt (pci-e), 2gb ram, dell 20" widescreen lcd
[09:23] <kbd> ok, simply type 'man iwconfig' into a gnome-terminal
[09:24] <Episcopus> kbd: done
[09:24] <genii> george Your best bet is to download the "alternate install cd" image. Then you can do a text-based install.
[09:26] <Episcopus> kbd: once in iwconfig, then...
[09:27] <george> thanks genii.. downloading the x86 alternate install cd now
[09:27] <kbd> It's all in the man page.
[09:29] <rusty> whats the best free native online game for ubuntu
[09:29] <kbd> rusty: ?
[09:29] <rusty> i was looking and i know nuthin bout them
[09:29] <kbd> Is it "20 Questions!"?
[09:30] <rusty> figured u guys would know
[09:30] <george> i think i partitioned my hard drive correctly.. i have a 80gb hard drive.. first 40gb is active Primary for windows.. next 20gb is logical for /home (ext3).. next 4g is linux swap last 10.5g is ext3 for ubuntu install..
[09:30] <kbd> I don't think there are any native ubuntu games... you mean like linux games?
[09:30] <rusty> yes
[09:30] <kbd> That's kind of subjective... I like CUBE kind of...
[09:30] <rusty> o
[09:30] <rusty> nm then
[09:31] <kbd> I like Tetravex
[09:31] <rusty> ttyl
[09:31] <rusty> bed
[09:31] <rusty> toodloo
[09:31] <rusty> ty
[09:34] <kbd> OoOo... Tremulous looks interesting
[09:35] <erikja> whcih burning software is recommended for edgy (gnome) ?
[09:36] <kbd> erikja: I really like gnome-backer
[09:36] <dv_> erikja, k3b is the best, but thats kde-based .. :/
[09:36] <kbd> gnome-baker*
[09:36] <erikja> kbd, thank you very much
[09:36] <kbd> I thoroughly enjoy using gnome-baker every time.
[09:36] <kbd> I wonder if there is w32 version...
[09:36] <MTecknology> what's the name of the compix manager?
[09:36] <kbd> compiz?
[09:36] <erikja> dv_, ok, how can I change to KDE ?
[09:37] <MTecknology> ya
[09:37] <kbd> cgwb or something?
[09:37] <SEJeff> MTecknology: gtk-window-decorator
[09:37] <MTecknology> isn't there an icon for it that you can load?
[09:38] <MTecknology> it's loaded and working, I just want to edit it
[09:38] <stuart_> can someone help me kill and uninstall (the undead) a rogue program?
[09:38] <Alfa> hi everyone i have a little noob question
[09:38] <lori> #oalug
[09:38] <george> for core2 duo processor do i need the amd64 cd instead of the x86?
[09:39] <kbd> stuart_: Do you know the name of the program?
[09:39] <kbd> Alrighty.
[09:39] <Alfa> how can i compile a single file "main.c" in ubuntu?
[09:40] <kbd> gcc
[09:40] <mackinac> !compile > Alfa
[09:40] <blob6767> does anyone know where i can find the actual deb packages for build-essential?
[09:40] <kbd> blob6767: online?
[09:40] <blob6767> im having issues with my madwifi drivers and im on a live cd right now
[09:40] <Alfa> i wrote cc -c main.c but it gaves error like "main.c:4:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory"
[09:41] <kbd> ah, sure
[09:41] <blob6767> and i need to install it to my actual HD which i've mounted
[09:41] <Alfa> but stdio.h is standard input of c
[09:41] <blob6767> but when i run synaptic to install everything i need, it saves it to the tmp filesystem
[09:41] <blob6767> and i need to install it to my real file system which i have mounted
[09:41] <blob6767> does anyone know how to remedy this problem or else where i might procure the stand-alone .deb files?
[09:42] <blob6767> kbd:  yes online
[09:42] <kbd> blob6767: chroot into that filesystem
[09:42] <blob6767> kbd:  i need to procure all the .debs in lieu of using synaptic to install since i'm on a live cd
[09:42] <blob6767> kbd:  thank you so much
[09:43] <blob6767> i've been up for hours on end troubleshooting
[09:43] <george> Alfa you have #include stdio.h or #include <stdio.h> ?
[09:43] <kbd> If you're on a livecd and you have filesystem access, chrooting could get you in there
[09:43] <kbd> blob6767: I am unsure of exactly how to do it in this case, as I've really only chrooted on gentoo installs and that was some time ago
[09:43] <kbd> blob6767: I recommend a forum post on this.
[09:44] <chavo> chroot is easy
[09:44] <blob6767> im well acquainted with linux i just forgot about chrooting
[09:44] <blob6767> all you do is chroot newfilesystem
[09:44] <blob6767> my mind is like jello right now :)
[09:44] <mackinac> apt-get --download-only
[09:44] <kbd> hehe
[09:44] <blob6767> i *seriously* appreciate it
[09:44] <chavo> just sudo mkdir /mountpoint;sudo mount /dev/hdxx /mountpoint;sudo chroot /mountpoint
[09:44] <Alfa> #include <stdio.h>
[09:44] <blob6767> i guess the default madwifi drivers suck or something
[09:45] <blob6767> the card works fine on the live CD but not on the vanilla install
[09:45] <blob6767> kbd:  here we go... lets see how it works
[09:47] <blob6767> ok i think i might need to update my repositories
[09:47] <george> Alfa: is stdio.h in usr/include ?
[09:47] <blob6767> here is the error im getting running apt-get from bash:
[09:48] <blob6767> Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:48] <blob6767> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:48] <buddy7999> Is anyone familiar with the bcm43xx wifi chipset?
[09:48] <blob6767> thats after chrooting
[09:49] <Ademan> anyone know if it's possible to resize a gnome-terminal through the command line?  Basically i'm writing a little bash script that will change into my source directory, (hopefully) maximize the terminal, and then pull up vim
[09:49] <Alfa> george: no
[09:49] <george> Alfa: check PM.. sent you a link
[09:49] <Alfa> k
[09:49] <blob6767> that worked
[09:49] <blob6767> kbd:  i owe you a beer
[09:49] <blob6767> kbd:  if you're in the los angeles area,  we will drink heavily,  eat meat like vikings,  and revel in hedonism
[09:51] <blob6767> thanks everyone
[09:51] <blob6767> i appreciate the time / help,  have a good night!
[09:51] <eck> lol
[09:51] <xelados> What do I need to get VMware working with a virtual install of Windows?
[09:51] <xelados> wine isn't cutting it for what I need.
[09:52] <buddy7999> how fast is vmware as an emulator?
[09:52] <buddy7999> usually?
[09:52] <eck> xelados: you basically just need to sell your sould to vmware and then download it from their site
[09:52] <buddy7999> 50% as if it were natively installede?
[09:52] <george> Alfa: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-314578.html
[09:52] <rob-west> !opengl
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <rob-west> how to i install open gl
[09:53] <xelados> Well, there's the player available in the ubuntu repos..
[09:53] <eck> buddy7999: i think it depends what os you are emulating, and what kind of app you are running
[09:53] <LZMA> hi!
[09:53] <xelados> But I'd need server, right?
[09:53] <SnrWhippy> vmware 6 the beta version runs with debug on so its much slower
[09:53] <julien_> hi every body
[09:53] <eck> buddy7999: in my experience (on a server) it is better than 50%
[09:53] <buddy7999> well i was just curious how well vmware would emulate an xp machine
[09:53] <LZMA> which Ubuntu has the best hardware support? Edgy or Feisty?
[09:53] <SnrWhippy> just make sure you have plenty of ram
[09:53] <eck> xelados: yeah, you'd want the server one
[09:54] <xelados> That's not in the repos.
[09:54] <xelados> :<
[09:54] <rob-west> how to i install open gl
[09:54] <julien_> i have a rar file protect by a password and i don't know how to crack the password under ubuntu could you help me
[09:54] <eck> of course not, it's not released under an open source license
[09:54] <xelados> SnrWhippy: I've got a gig of RAM. Fluxbox (running through xdm) uses less than 25% of that, I'm sure.
[09:54] <eck> you basically have to agree to some EULA, like with java
[09:54] <xelados> oh, that's it?
[09:54] <xelados> It's free?
[09:55] <eck> yeah, there's some heavy duty server ones you can pay for, but just for one VM it is free
[09:55] <SnrWhippy> excellent
[09:55] <xelados> sweet
[09:55] <xelados> I only need it for one VM anyway
[09:55] <julien_> yes vmserver it is free
[09:55] <SnrWhippy> so is vmware workstation 6 and now the converter
[09:55] <julien_> the enterprise server no free is now called esx
[09:55] <ch4rles> Anyone in here ever successfully install VMWare Tools 5.5.1 on Ubuntu 6.10?
[09:55] <xelados> wine was working really well with D2 until I got to Act 2...
[09:56] <xelados> So I have to find an alternative now.
[09:56] <xelados> lol
[09:56] <eck> xelados: you too?
[09:56] <xelados> yep
[09:56] <xelados> Really pissed me off cause I was with my stepdad and a friend in a LAN game..
[09:56] <xelados> I was the host, too
[09:56] <julien_> i have a rar file protect by a password and i don't know how to crack the password under ubuntu could you help me ?? i know its not a very clean question but this files is mine
[09:56] <eck> over the summer i got ambitious and tried to run diablo in wine, had the same problem
[09:57] <eck> julien_: i think you just have to brute force it
[09:57] <xelados> It's no big deal, I guess. I'll have more support with VMware anyway.
[09:57] <julien_> eck: ok but with whixh tool
[09:57] <xelados> It'll just be slightly slower than a real installation
[09:57] <a_coward> i downloaded thunderbird from mozilla and extracted to /opt/ and it won't start
[09:57] <eck> i am sure you can find some code to do it
[09:58] <eck> xelados: it's not too slow, it's just a memory hog :-(
[09:58] <julien_> ok i try by your way
[09:58] <xelados> Eh, I need to put this gig of RAM to good use anyway
[09:58] <xelados> :P
[09:58] <julien_> i'll keep you inform
[09:58] <buddy7999> ANyone at all familiar with the broadcom wifi chipset in *nix?
[09:58] <Flannel> a_coward: why not just use the one in the repositories?
[09:58] <xelados> Do you think I should still keep wine around?
[09:58] <xelados> It's been a pain in my ass.
[09:58] <a_coward> i know the benefits of using repos, i just want to try this way
[09:59] <Chai_Sangeen> hello guys
[10:00] <buddy7999> oh well...
[10:00] <buddy7999> next thing
[10:00] <buddy7999> anyone know i can disable the keyring in ubuntu?
[10:00] <rob-west> can someone help me with open gl
[10:01] <rob-west> i cant enable the restricted modules
[10:01] <xelados> hmm
[10:01] <xelados> Which download to get..
[10:02] <eck> buddy7999: the ubuntu keyring?
[10:02] <xelados> I'd get the RPM but I'm not running Fedora or RedHat
[10:02] <eck> err gnome keyring
[10:02] <innu> Feisty - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=374201 mysql error or smth. maybe someone can tell me how to fix it
[10:02] <buddy7999> eck: yup
[10:02] <eck> buddy7999: install libpam-keyring and look at this: http://www.hekanetworks.com/index.php/publisher/articleview/frmArticleID/25/staticId/31/
[10:02] <xelados> 101 megabytes!?
[10:03] <xelados> son of a..
[10:03] <omegabeta> Question : Where can i go to customise the icons and stick them in the tray, without them dissapearing if i delete their respective shortcuts
[10:03] <eck> i just found out about that today
[10:03] <xelados> Well, looks like I'm not gonna see D2 for a little while.
[10:03] <eck> i think the keyring password has to be the same as your login password to work though
[10:03] <omegabeta> ie, I get a shortcut - drag and drop it in to the tray (for i.e kvirc) but when i delete it after that (the one still on the desktop) the other one goes at next boot
[10:03] <buddy7999> gah, its a pretty annoying feature...
[10:04] <ethernal> i'm just popping in to ask, did they remove xfs support in the latest kernel? since software update i cant mount my root fs according to boot?
[10:04] <eck> xelados: time to give up on reliving your glory days?
[10:04] <xelados> Eh, it's just a download I have to wait on.
[10:04] <xelados> I need to get further in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon anyway.
[10:06] <eck> ethernal: i doubt it. if they did it is surely a bug
[10:06] <eck> check launchpad?
[10:06] <buddy7999> is there any way to make desktop icons overlap windows?
[10:06] <buddy7999> i want to have a terminal wallpaper
[10:06] <omegabeta> hah, thats genius
[10:06] <ethernal> eck: cheers mate, i thought it was rather weird
[10:07] <omegabeta> passive terminal wallpaper that you can shift+right click to activate
[10:07] <buddy7999> yeah
[10:07] <omegabeta> that would be awsome
[10:07] <buddy7999> i have one right now
[10:07] <buddy7999> transparent and everything
[10:07] <eck> i think there are a fair amount of XFS users, especially in server environments, so i can't picture support for it being removed
[10:07] <buddy7999> but it just blocks my icons
[10:07] <omegabeta> oh ok
[10:07] <buddy7999> i want my icons to have precedence over that window
[10:07] <buddy7999> it looks pretty nice
[10:08] <buddy7999> esp when i have a
[10:08] <buddy7999> watch netstat
[10:08] <buddy7999> going
[10:08] <eck> buddy7999: i highly doubt you can do that in gnome
[10:08] <eck> maybe if you completely disable nautilus
[10:08] <eck> if you want to do that you will have to use fluxbox or a WM like that
[10:09] <buddy7999> ah
[10:09] <buddy7999> i just had an idea
[10:09] <buddy7999> ill just make that window a bit smaller
[10:09] <buddy7999> and have the icons on ecah side
[10:09] <xelados> Fluxbox?
[10:09] <xelados> ooooh
[10:09] <xelados> Love that WM
[10:09] <xelados> I practically swear by it.
[10:11] <SnrWhippy> what is fluxbox?
[10:11] <eck> !fluxbox
[10:11] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[10:11] <buddy7999> responsive as in fast?
[10:12] <eck> it is about as responsive as metacity
[10:12] <eck> i don't think there's a whole lot to improve on in that arena
[10:12] <eck> (metacity being the gnome WM)
[10:12] <super> How can I remove a stubborn file that resides on an NTFS drive?  sudo rm -rf doesn't work.  I keep getting "operation not permitted"...changing the owner from root to my user doesn't work either.  Need help!!
[10:13] <eck> super: is the filesystem mounted read only?
[10:13] <buddy7999> idk, Ive actually never really experienced a responsive WM in linux
[10:13] <buddy7999> they seem to have a slight lag somewhere
[10:13] <eck> buddy7999: well when i cick a window it gets focus immediately
[10:13] <eck> and it moves across the screen pretty well
[10:13] <eck> that's pretty much all the wm does
[10:13] <super> eck: no, it's mounted with fuse (using ntfs-3g) ... it's read/writeable  ...just wrote a file to the drive, so I know it's writable btw
[10:14] <buddy7999> like when i switch between a windows xp machine and a *nix box i feel that the windows are smoother in the former
[10:14] <eck> super: lsattr? i highly doubt it, but it's a possibility it has some attribute set
[10:14] <SnrWhippy> i've gone from metacity to beryl
[10:14] <SnrWhippy> it looks pretty im sure ill get bored of it soon
[10:15] <super> eck: i'll check, but I don't believe it's immutable or the like...brb
[10:15] <eck> buddy7999: fluxbox can't paint windows any more quickly, that's all i'm trying to say
[10:15] <martiinezz> hi folks what can be wrong if my apache serves ISO-8859-2 files not as expected?
[10:15] <eck> at the end of the day, that's always done by X11
[10:16] <valehru> Hey guys, I installed php5 on edgy.  I tried going into a wordpress installation and Im getting the error:
[10:16] <valehru> Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 368640 bytes)
[10:16] <buddy7999> ah
[10:16] <martiinezz> hi folks what can be wrong if my apache serves ISO-8859-2 files not as expected?
[10:16] <eck> valehru: maybe you have a ulimit set
[10:16] <valehru> eck, where would that be set?
[10:17] <buddy7999> oh well
[10:17] <eck> ulimit -a
[10:17] <buddy7999> im using beryl right now anyway
[10:17] <super> eck: lsattr is only for linux file systems, no?  anyway, can't see anything, it says "lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on"
[10:17] <buddy7999> im beginning to think the cube is more eye candy than anything useful
[10:17] <eck> super: i guess so, it has to be supported by the filesystem but i'm not sure if fuse emulates that or not
[10:18] <buddy7999> but maybe when i get up to my proficiency in *nix i can make real use of it
[10:18] <buddy7999> maybe itll somehow make my code more managed!
[10:18] <valehru> eck, soz for the spam in the window
[10:18] <eck> valehru: do you see the problem :-)
[10:18] <SnrWhippy> yeah im with you on that eye candy bit
[10:19] <eck> 8192*1024 = 8388608
[10:19] <SnrWhippy> but it is nice for converting people
[10:19] <super> eck: here's something interesting also, I've tried removing these files from Windows as well, to no avail.  There are located in .Trash folders/directories if that helps...I can't move them though
[10:19] <buddy7999> also, im not sure about anyone else
[10:19] <buddy7999> scrolling is a big laggy
[10:19] <buddy7999> using beryl
[10:19] <jussi01> buddy7999, thats weird, its one of the only things about beryl i find useful
[10:19] <eck> valehru: ulimit is provided by bash, the documentation can be read by running 'help ulimit'
[10:19] <valehru> eck, not exactly.
[10:19] <buddy7999> yeah alot of the other stuff I find too Mac-ish
[10:19] <buddy7999> than useful
[10:20] <valehru> eck, stack size or open files?
[10:20] <buddy7999> im sure beryl will be putting the kaibash on Xgl for hte laggyness
[10:20] <eck> stack size
[10:21] <jussi01> buddy7999, you should probably take this to offtopic #unbuntuforums
[10:21] <bullgard2> Can you please tell me what is 'freenode-connect' in Gaim? I did not find a definition.
[10:21] <buddy7999> its the irc server
[10:21] <buddy7999> this irc server to be more specific bullgard2
[10:22] <bullgard2> buddy7999: Thank you. I wil think about it.
[10:22] <eck> bullgard2: that's gaim showing you that you have connected to the freenode irc server
[10:23] <buddy7999> eck whats the difference between a restart
[10:23] <buddy7999> and a logout
[10:23] <jussi01> !offtopic | buddy7999
[10:23] <ubotu> buddy7999: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:23] <jussi01> oops
[10:23] <jussi01> sorry buddy7999
[10:23] <buddy7999> no worries
[10:23] <eck> buddy7999: well, restarting will restart all of the programs on your computer obviously, logging out will only end the ones associated with your login session
[10:23] <buddy7999> I seem to be alot more unstable with Beryl
[10:23] <buddy7999> and logouts
[10:24] <buddy7999> actually more unstable in general
[10:24] <SnrWhippy> heres a question after installing beryl ive lost my shutdown and restart buttons
[10:24] <buddy7999> often times it doesnt even finish the logout
[10:24] <buddy7999> SnrWhippy, i think thats Xgl
[10:24] <jussi01> buddy7999, you should consider compiz - it is going to be included in feisty
[10:24] <super> eck: thanks for trying to help.  if you or anyone else has any other ideas, please let me know...I'll be on for a while.  Thanks!
[10:24] <buddy7999> really?
[10:24] <buddy7999> i thought beryl was the more popular one
[10:25] <eck> buddy7999: tbh, i wouldn't be using beryl. if you really want stable, use metacity, and if you want the eye candy compiz is much more stable (and performant)
[10:25] <SnrWhippy> interesting
[10:25] <jussi01> super, I just arrived what the prob?
[10:25] <bullgard2> eck: Thank you for explaining.
[10:25] <eck> bullgard2: no problem
[10:25] <valehru> eck, I just increased the php memory in php.ini to 24M.  That did the trick
[10:25] <eck> valehru: i don't know much about PHP, but i know highly threaded applications tend to run out of stack space very quickly
[10:25] <super> jussi01: How can I remove a stubborn file that resides on an NTFS drive?  sudo rm -rf doesn't work.  I keep getting "operation not permitted"...changing the owner from root to my user doesn't work either.  Need help!!
[10:25] <jussi01> !compiz | buddy7999
[10:25] <ubotu> buddy7999: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:26] <buddy7999> yeah Ive tried compiz
[10:26] <buddy7999> it isnt as stable as beryl on my machine
[10:26] <buddy7999> for some reason it keeps installing twice
[10:26] <jussi01> super, have you tried doing sudo nautilus, then removing it through nautilus?
[10:26] <buddy7999> ive tried apt-get --purge
[10:26] <archives> hi, on the cmd line, how do i see the size of a partition?
[10:26] <buddy7999> but after reinstalling i find that when i do 'compiz --ver'
[10:26] <_`XeOn_> how do i install .rpm files?
[10:27] <buddy7999> i have two return versions
[10:27] <super> jussi01: no, but the command line is my friend :-)
[10:27] <buddy7999> both the same version
[10:27] <eck> buddy7999: well, that's a packaging issue, not a compiz issue, although i guess on the user end of things there isn't much difference
[10:27] <gordonjcp> _`XeOn_: alien
[10:27] <jussi01> buddy7999, did you try compiz from the repos?
[10:27] <_`XeOn_> alien?
[10:27] <gordonjcp> yup
[10:27] <buddy7999> what are repos?
[10:27] <mackinac> archives:   df -h
[10:27] <eck> _`XeOn_: alien doesnt' really work that well, but in theory yes
[10:27] <buddy7999> i just use the deb from my source list
[10:27] <super> jussi01: but to humor myself, I'll try it...
[10:27] <_`XeOn_> oh well now i got confused
[10:28] <jussi01> !repositaries
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repositaries - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <eck> _`XeOn_: if you can, you're better off compiling the application than trying to hack it with alien
[10:28] <buddy7999> !repos
[10:28] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:28] <ddd>
[10:28] <eck> !ru
[10:28] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[10:28] <jussi01> cause the repo compiz is broken - get gandalfn version
[10:28] <_`XeOn_> i have no idea what u said
[10:28] <ALL4N> hi all, I want to be able to synchronise my laptop files with my desktop files automatically. I've looked into unison and rsync, but ifolder seems to be the best solution since the laptop is not always on the network. I am having problems installing ifolder though, so I'm wondering what others here are doing to keep the computers synchronised..  any suggestions?
[10:29] <buddy7999> ah, so i have been using repos all along
[10:29] <eck> _`XeOn_: if you have the option of downloading the source code and downloading an RPM, you are better off downloading the source code and compiling it
[10:29] <super> jussi01: no dice.  i'll be here if you have any other suggestions.  these files are somehow stuck.  oh well.
[10:29] <_`XeOn_> its just the rpm
[10:29] <bullgard2> eck: Can I safely delete the tab 'freenode-connect' after having read its message?
[10:30] <buddy7999> shoudl apt-get always be my first choice for installing programs?
[10:30] <eck> bullgard2: yes
[10:30] <eck> i believe so
[10:30] <buddy7999> or is compiling from source better with odds?
[10:30] <bullgard2> OK, thank you.
[10:30] <eck> buddy7999: normally you would only compile if you need a newer version, or you want to apply a patch (or the package is not in the repos)
[10:31] <eck> it comes up sometimes
[10:31] <george> i just tried installing with the alternate i386 cd.. (desktop cd didn't work with video card/monitor).. when it got past installing Base System it kept giving me setup encountered and error, you may select another item from the list and skip this item on "Installing additional software" and "Install Grub".. checked the CD and it tested fine.. any ideas?