[04:59] <zim> but i have used a command that pops up a blue screen before from command line
[05:00] <_jason> trainer: how about libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[05:00] <zim> but for the life of me i cant remember it
[05:00] <trainer> _jason: nope. I'll try it
[05:00] <Enthusiast78> zim, Doing 'dmesg | grep eth' should show which ethernet adapters are available.
[05:00] <_jason> trainer: synergy should have pulled in all the stuff it needed, hrmm
[05:01] <trainer> _jason: I have an incompatible client. 1.2 is the latest I can get from the repository so I had to install the rpm manually
[05:01] <_jason> trainer: yeah... thay would cause the problem
[05:02] <_jason> trainer: s/thay/that
[05:02] <Rayman_> hmh
[05:03] <arrick> guest
[05:03] <Rayman_> how much performance gain do I get from using ubuntu x64 on a turon64 system?
[05:03] <_jason> trainer: might be best to just look at 'apt-cache depends synergy' and install them all
[05:03] <guest> arrick: ??
[05:03] <xstation> nickrud: found it so just add the line # Load the KQEMU kernel module
[05:03] <xstation> /sbin/modprobe kqemu without the comment
[05:04] <LinuxJones> zim: do lspci -v and tell me the make/model of your nic card
[05:04] <zim> ty
[05:04] <arrick> guest, there is a pic on the post at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11101, when you 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab' you will need to changeit to look like the picture
[05:04] <rambo3> can anyone help me with this script >> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11102
[05:04] <zim> think im ok noe
[05:04] <nickrud> xstation, no, just    kqemu     on a line, no need to mention modprobe
[05:04] <zim> think im ok now
[05:04] <zim> ty all
[05:04] <LinuxJones> zim: GL :)
[05:04] <guest> arrick: yes...
[05:04] <coffee> hi, does someone have a good tuto to use an ATI Remote Wonder 2 with the ati_remote2 module integrated in ubuntu kernel? It doesn't reply in xev for me :(
[05:05] <arrick> only one line is changed, and you need to find the put your username here and do so, and it will allow you to view the ntfs partition
[05:05] <trainer> _jason: well I knew it was a dependency I wasn't aware of, but didn't know how to check them via apt. besides you nailed it with libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2. I'm off and running now. Thanks for your help!
[05:06] <LinuxJones> Rayman_: you won't notice any difference unless your encoding video or something. Plus, it's a pain because some stuff (like flash plugin support) take a bit to get setup.
[05:06] <scandian> hi
[05:06] <guest> arrick: Yes, I see what you are talking about. I'll do that now...
[05:06] <arrick> ok
[05:06] <arnaud__> salut
[05:06] <arrick> that should fix your problem, it did for me guest
[05:07] <scandian> who can say me a beautifull game to download with synaptic?
[05:07] <arnaud__> bonjour
[05:07] <xstation> nickrud: many thanks one more question that occured that was in the wikki and thats . Set the full path to the binary in the variable CC:
[05:07] <xstation>  export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 is this neccessary
[05:07] <arrick> it isnt advisable to write to that partition or make changes while in ubuntu though guest
[05:07] <arrick> only view them guest
[05:07] <nickrud> xstation, when you are compiling a kernel module, yes.
[05:07] <LinuxJones> scandian: frozen-bubble or chromium (need ati or nvidia binary drivers to work)
[05:07] <arrick> or use them guest
[05:07] <guest> arrick: understood. ;)
[05:08] <arrick> ok
[05:08] <scandian> thank linuxjones
[05:08] <Rorgo> anybody know why I get weird little font errors in man pages with an Ubuntu 5.10 install?
[05:08] <arrick> guest, are you trying to play music?
[05:08] <nickrud> xstation, just about all of ubuntu is compiled with gcc-4.0 , except for the kernel. For that you need gcc-3.4
[05:08] <Rorgo> such as,
[05:08] <nsmith> _jason: just finished and received the fallowing error at the end Fetched 3649kB in 9m47s (6210B/s)
[05:08] <nsmith> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)
[05:08] <nsmith> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?
[05:08] <Yggdrassil> Rorgo, could be your locales
[05:09] <_jason> nsmith: close synaptic
[05:09] <unforcer> Does reiserfs support quotas?
[05:09] <nsmith> _jason: do I need to do it all over again?
[05:09] <xstation> nickrud: when the script was running to install kqemu I noticed that this may have taken place
[05:09] <_jason> nsmith: unfortunately, yes
[05:09] <nsmith> _jason: ok
[05:10] <nickrud> xstation, if the script compiled that kernel module for you, it probably did :)
[05:10] <bronson__> I have a strange issue.  I just installed Ubuntu on 2 machines.  They are running behind a Linksys router.  There are 10 other machines, all Windows.  The Ubuntu machines can't download stuff - they timeout after a few seconds, but the windows machines are fine.  any ideas?
[05:10] <guest> arrick: no, I'm trying to access my WindowsXp FBasic programs.
[05:10] <arrick> ok
[05:10] <LinuxJones> bronson__: that's the crappy ipv6 module working it's magic
[05:10] <guest> arrick: I want to see if they work with Wine.
[05:10] <Yggdrassil> bronson, firewall issues?
[05:11] <arrick> guest, I dont know if they will work in here, are they exe?
[05:11] <arrick> oh ok
[05:11] <LinuxJones> bronson__: open a new tab in firefox ctrl+t
[05:11] <guest> arrick: yes
[05:11] <bronson__> i don't think so.  the firewall is disabled on the router
[05:11] <guest> arrick: I still don't have permission. I don't understand...
[05:11] <LinuxJones> bronson__: the modules arte loaded in the ubuntu kernel by default
[05:11] <cdubya> bronson__, I think they were talking about on the ubuntu boxes...
[05:11] <bronson__> ok
[05:11] <guest> arrick: I modified the file verbadum...
[05:11] <LinuxJones> bronson__: type about:config
[05:12] <bronson__> ok.   how do i disable that?
[05:12] <arrick> ok
[05:12] <bronson__> ok
[05:12] <LinuxJones> bronson__: follow my instructions
[05:12] <bronson__> ok   lol
[05:12] <LinuxJones> bronson__: :)
[05:12] <cdubya> heh
[05:12] <nsmith> _jason: ok done thanks
[05:12] <arrick> put your ubuntu username into the 'put your username here' spot next to ntfs guest
[05:13] <arrick> his will make you the owner of the partition
[05:13] <arrick> this
[05:13] <nsmith> _jason: though, I dont really know what I just downloaded, or the significence of  multiverse and universe
[05:13] <bronson__> then?
[05:13] <Dyna-Work> Just curious, im going to install ubuntu later today with the hopes of running mythTV and dual outputting to a 1080i tv and a regular monitor, is anybody aware of any inconsistencies?
[05:13] <LinuxJones> bronson__: you have the options page open bronson__?
[05:13] <bronson__> yup
[05:13] <LinuxJones> bronson__: in search type ipv6
[05:13] <guest> arrick: here is the line:    /dev/hda2       /media/hda2     ntfs    ro,uid=guest,gid=guest	0       0
[05:14] <xstation> nickrud: thanks for your help when you have a minute you make want to look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151537
[05:14] <guest> arrick: what should be the result?
[05:14] <bronson__> ok
[05:14] <arrick> your username is guest on your ubuntu system?
[05:14] <E-bola> Hello
[05:14] <xiaobai_> the name of the downed files by using gftp is not type right
[05:14] <guest> arrick: Ha! Yes!
[05:14] <LinuxJones> bronson__: double click to disable ipv6 support
[05:14] <E-bola> where can i see what packages are included ont he ubuntu live cd?
[05:14] <arrick> oh ok
[05:14] <bronson__> ok
[05:14] <_jason> nsmith: synaptic should not have the stat error now.  You had universe and multiverse enabled before, the bot will send you some info
[05:14] <LinuxJones> bronson__: so it says true ?
[05:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell nsmith about components
[05:14] <bronson__> yes
[05:15] <LinuxJones> bronson__: ok close all firefox windows and restart
[05:15] <arrick> _jason after a fstab is changed and saved, you dont have to restart anything do you?
[05:15] <LinuxJones> bronson__: by restart i mean launch firefox . Don't reboot your computer :D
[05:15] <curlyman> bronson__: hey
[05:15] <arrick> I cant remember
[05:15] <_jason> arrick: sudo mount -a, to remount everything I believe
[05:15] <bronson__> lol
[05:15] <bronson__> ok
[05:16] <guest> arrick: do I use sudo mount -a ?
[05:16] <arrick> guest, 'sudo mount -a' yes use it
[05:16] <nsmith> _jason: thanks again
[05:16] <arrick> after you save the file adn close it
[05:16] <bronson__> hmmm
[05:16] <LinuxJones> bronson__: that should speed things up, also you should install the fasterfox plugin, Tools >> Extenstions (it's in the top 10 section)
[05:16] <nsmith> _jason: ubotu is a bot?
[05:16] <arrick> yeah
[05:16] <_jason> arrick: if instead of editing, you edited something that was already mounted, then you may need to umount and mount again
[05:16] <arrick> ok
[05:16] <bronson__> i can't even start a download in Firefox now
[05:17] <guest> arrick: I did so. And yet...it still doesn't work.
[05:17] <_jason> arrick: change the first editing to ``adding''
[05:17] <arrick> I'll tell him how
[05:17] <guest> arrick: BRB
[05:17] <LinuxJones> bronson__: what ?
[05:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell nsmith about yourself
[05:17] <arrick> hang on guest
[05:17] <LinuxJones> bronson__: that's got nothing to do with what we jsut did
[05:17] <arrick> _jason how?
[05:17] <Yggdrassil> LinuxJones, bronson 's original problem is that he cannot download files with firefox.
[05:17] <nsmith> _jason: wow how bizarre
[05:17] <bronson__> lol but now it won't even start.  Before it timed out.  now i cant get anything to start downloading
[05:18] <_jason> arrick, guest: sudo umount /dev/<device> && sudo mount /dev/<device>
[05:18] <LinuxJones> Yggdrassil: he has file associations messed up then
[05:18] <Rdde> whats the easyest way to connect to the ubuntu "terminal" from windows?
[05:18] <arrick> ok
[05:18] <arrick> thanks
[05:18] <LinuxJones> Yggdrassil: I was helping him with timeouts
[05:18] <Yggdrassil> LinuxJones, go ahead... no use 2 trying to solve the same problem, he just will get confused
[05:19] <arrick> guest 'sudo umount /media/hda2 && sudo mount /media/hda2'
[05:19] <LinuxJones> Yggdrassil: yeah, I have a few things to do atm
[05:19] <Rdde> easyest way to connect to ubuntu from windows? telnet?
[05:19] <arrick> guest, that should fix it
[05:19] <ygetartson> hi guys
[05:19] <ygetartson> i lost my /home partition
[05:19] <ygetartson> im down and crying
[05:19] <arrick> ouch
[05:19] <xiaobai> cft
[05:19] <guest> arrick: Yes!! It worked!!
[05:20] <budluva> does anyone here use a broadcom wireless card?
[05:20] <bronson__> stuff is still timing out, like ubuntu updats
[05:20] <ygetartson> the reiserfs superblock is killed
[05:20] <Rdde> plz? how do you connect to an ubuntu comp from a windows comp?
[05:20] <Yggdrassil> Rdde, from dos prompt in windows: telnet ubuntu_I.P>
[05:20] <ygetartson> it happened after creating a new partition with partition magic
[05:20] <ygetartson> from xp
[05:20] <guest> arrick: thank you. Wow! That was important!
[05:20] <nickrud> xstation, I'm not sure, sorry. But, I'd boot into ubuntu, run update-grub , grub-install, and see what happens. your mileage may vary :)
[05:20] <dextro_dude> use putty to connect
[05:20] <Rdde> Yggdrassil, like telnet ubuntu_<IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:20] <arrick> yeah
[05:21] <arrick> did that help you out?
[05:21] <cdubya> yeah, putty
[05:21] <LinuxJones> budluva: yeah I have one but no wireless network to connect to
[05:21] <Yggdrassil> Rdde, no, just the IP of the ubunto workstation
[05:21] <Yggdrassil> u
[05:21] <arrick> guest, you got it going?
[05:21] <guest> arrick: Oh yes. It works now. Now I can access my FreeBASIC files.
[05:21] <Rdde> Yggdrassil, doesn't work.. do i have to activate something?
[05:21] <ygetartson> i tried to rebuild the superblock with reiserfsck --rebuild-sb
[05:21] <budluva> LinuxJones, whats the device name of your wireless card? my nic is eth0, my wireless card is eth1
[05:21] <ygetartson> but failed
[05:21] <budluva> LinuxJones, should it be wlan1? or does the name matter at all?
[05:21] <LinuxJones> budluva: your running Breezy ?
[05:21] <budluva> dapper
[05:21] <Yggdrassil> Rdde, does the ubuntu workstation have the telnet server running and is remote login set to allow?
[05:22] <arrick> guest, ok, have fun, at least i was able to contribute to the page instead of drain a little more from it
[05:22] <xstation> nickrud: i can only bot into ubuntu
[05:22] <xstation> boot
[05:22] <Rdde> Yggdrassil,  no, how do i activate it?
[05:22] <ygetartson> do you have a hint where to look for help?
[05:22] <LinuxJones> budluva: mine comes up as eth0, it uses the bcm43xx module
[05:22] <guest> arrick: Ha! That's all I do. Bug other people! Ha! Sir, Wine should be able to detect the Windows now. Right?
[05:22] <arrick> yeah
[05:22] <Yggdrassil> Rdde, lemme see (I'm not an ubuntu specialist)
[05:23] <void^> ew telnet. use putty on windows for ssh.
[05:23] <cdubya> Rdde, you could start ssh, d'load putty, and use it.
[05:23] <LinuxJones> budluva: do you know what kind of broadcom card you have ?
[05:23] <budluva> LinuxJones, ok, so the name doesnt matter
[05:23] <nickrud> xstation, I understood that, and you don't have a debian entry in the ubuntu grub. those two commands should create one and make sure that the ubuntu menu.lst is used.
[05:23] <budluva> LinuxJones, broadcom 4318
[05:23] <Yggdrassil> Rdde, system / administration / services (and see if telnet server is running)
[05:23] <arrick> guest, after 2 years of school for this stuff I should be able to help somehow
[05:23] <ygetartson> :'(
[05:23] <Shadowpillar> btw
[05:24] <Shadowpillar> for windows support, DO NOT USE THE UBUNTU VERSION OF WINE
[05:24] <LinuxJones> budluva: do lspci | grep Broadcom
[05:24] <Shadowpillar> use the one provided by the winehq.org repos
[05:24] <arrick> guest did you copy that from Shadowpillar ?
[05:24] <xstation> nickrud: but what about the sarge grub I am presently useing grub bootloader from sarge
[05:24] <iteniel> hi all!
[05:24] <LinuxJones> budluva: mine is an airforce 1 BCM4318
[05:24] <iteniel> tud nekem valaki segteni?
[05:24] <budluva> 0000:03:07.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[05:24] <Shadowpillar> best up to date version, and most apps will work with the current version much better (tenfold) than the version that comes with breezey
[05:25] <budluva> same card as you
[05:25] <nickrud> xstation, like I said, I'm not sure. That would be my first troubleshooting test.
[05:25] <ygetartson> does anyone know how to rescue a reiserfs partition with corrupted superblock?
[05:25] <arrick> Shadowpillar, guest is trying to run freebasic with wine, will it work?
[05:25] <LinuxJones> budluva: ok do sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[05:25] <Rdde> Yggdrassil,  no telnet server running
[05:25] <iteniel> Hungari
[05:25] <LinuxJones> budluva: then launch network-admin and configure your card
[05:25] <budluva> nothing
[05:25] <xstation> nickrud : i will give it a try
[05:25] <budluva> modprobe shows nothing
[05:25] <ygetartson> this is really heavy
[05:25] <Shadowpillar> arrick: dunno, but the rule with wine is, if one version doesn't work, wait for the next
[05:25] <LinuxJones> budluva: that's a good thing :)
[05:25] <Shadowpillar> arrick: chances are it may with the latest version
[05:26] <jcplata> i have a hp deskjet 640c but i don't know how to configure. anyone can help me to configure it?
[05:26] <arrick> ok
[05:26] <budluva> linuxboy, lsmod shows the bcm43xx module though
[05:26] <Shadowpillar> which is actually a beta build, not an alpha nightly cvs landmark build
[05:26] <guest> arrick: good to know. ;)
[05:26] <LinuxJones> budluva: I'm not 100 % but I think it can only connect to open networks atm
[05:26] <Shadowpillar> 0.9.10
[05:26] <arrick> yeah
[05:26] <budluva> hrmm
[05:26] <Shadowpillar> they do have an ubuntu repos
[05:26] <cdubya> ygetartson, what option did you use on the reiserfsck?
[05:26] <Shadowpillar> but they need it on a much better server
[05:26] <budluva> ya i have a secure network...maybe thats why i cant connect to it
[05:26] <Shadowpillar> it's based directly off sourceforge's server
[05:26] <budluva> hrmm...well ill try unsecure
[05:27] <Shadowpillar> usually why I just download the deb from the repo with wget
[05:27] <Yggdrassil> Rdde, I would say you might have to add the telnet deamon then... I would not be able to tell you how to do this. I just started evaluation ubuntu (which is debian based).. my main experience is with redhat which is rpm based when it comes to installing additional components.
[05:27] <arrick> guest you listening?
[05:27] <xstation> nickrud: when I boot up sarge is the fist option followed by sarge prompt then ubuntu and ubuntu prompt and mem test
[05:27] <ygetartson> cdubya: --rebuild-sb
[05:27] <vista> hi
[05:28] <ygetartson> then, --check
[05:28] <vista> need some help
[05:28] <Rdde> Yggdrassil,  ok =) thanks for the help
[05:28] <cdubya> ygetartson, reiserfsck --rebuild-tree   ????
[05:28] <guest> arrick: yes.
[05:28] <arrick> vista, ask your question
[05:28] <budluva> LinuxJones, so just disable WEP on my wireless router right? and ubuntu should be able to connect?
[05:28] <arrick> ok
[05:28] <ygetartson> no
[05:28] <guest> arrick: ha!
[05:28] <Yggdrassil> Rdde, at least you have an idea what to look for
[05:28] <ygetartson> this seemed to risk#
[05:28] <xstation> nickrud: can you give me the commands again at prompt please
[05:28] <ygetartson> y
[05:28] <Rdde> how can i connect to an ubuntu using telnet?
[05:28] <vista> hi, i got an error while install
[05:28] <vista> dpkg: error processing x11-common_7.0.0-0ubuntu25_i386.deb (--install):
[05:28] <vista> vista  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 10
[05:28] <jcplata> anyone can help me to install a hp deskjet 640c in my computer?
[05:29] <nickrud> xstation, sudo update-grub  && sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[05:29] <cdubya> Rdde, start ssh on your ubuntu box; download putty on the windows box. Open a putty session on windows and point the connection to the IP of the ubuntu box.
[05:29] <arrick> !printer
[05:29] <ubotu> printer is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[05:29] <vista> any suggesiton?
[05:29] <ygetartson> cdubya: this is the last chance, but can definitely destroy valuable remainders
[05:29] <cdubya> ygetartson, just looking......
[05:29] <xstation> nickrud thanks exactly as you have written
[05:29] <arrick> jcplata, see if your printer is on the list, then someone might be able to help
[05:29] <Yggdrassil> Rdde, maybe you could snoop around in the add applications panel? (just an idea)
[05:29] <nickrud> jcplata, System-Admin-Printing, click new printer
[05:30] <arrick> thnks nickrud, i didnt know if it was supported
[05:30] <nickrud> arrick, I've seen that printer before, when I had a 940c
[05:30] <arrick> ok
[05:30] <tRSS> my ubuntu machine is not running the ssh service. How can i turn it on?
[05:30] <Davey> tRSS: install it :)
[05:30] <_jason> !ssh
[05:30] <ubotu> from memory, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[05:30] <tRSS> Davey: how?
[05:31] <tRSS> !ssh
[05:31] <Enthusiast78> Anybody got kqemu packaged?
[05:31] <arrick> tRSS, follow the link above
[05:31] <Yggdrassil> hm
[05:31] <Yggdrassil> !telnet
[05:31] <ubotu> from memory, telnet is bad, use ssh (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto)
[05:31] <jcplata> arrick, nickrud :yes it is on the list but which resolution i have to use?
[05:31] <Yggdrassil> blah :P
[05:31] <tRSS> thanks guys! :)
[05:32] <arrick> nickrud you got way more experiance than me
[05:32] <loststar4545> i trying to find a firefox icon to replace the  blue world icon it uses now what dimensions should i use  or anyone know where i can get one
[05:32] <arrick> !icon
[05:32] <ubotu> for icon see icons (and msg the bot i.e. >>/msg ubotu icon<< it does not spam the channel)
[05:32] <nickrud> jcplata, a sec
[05:32] <Yggdrassil> I wonder
[05:32] <ygetartson> hard disk changes from xp are really dangerous. i should have done nothing more than resize the ntfs partition, then reboot to ubuntu. instead, i used part.magic to create another ext2 partition there, which is now seen as a reiserfs partition...
[05:32] <Yggdrassil> !vpn
[05:32] <ubotu> vpn is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[05:32] <Yggdrassil> aha
[05:32] <jcplata> nickrud: ok
[05:32] <vista> hi
[05:33] <vista> anybody help?
[05:33] <xstation> nickrud: I think we have an answer where can I pate to show you please
[05:33] <ygetartson> from fdisk.
[05:33] <cdubya> Rdde, http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:33] <budluva_> LinuxJones, ya, i go to activate eth1 (wireless card) and it just sits there
[05:33] <Rdde> whats a good program to listen to webradio whit? (its going to be n 24/7)
[05:33] <tRSS> !firewall
[05:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[05:33] <Rdde> cdubya, thanks
[05:34] <nickrud> jcplata, pick the resolution you would use most often, I'd guess
[05:34] <nickrud> xstation, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:35] <cdubya> Rdde, np. do a sudo apt-get install openssh-server on your ubuntu box. once that's done, ssh is running. Then install putty on your windows box and create a connection that points to the IP address of your ubuntu box.  I can only give you a general walk through
[05:36] <Storkme> i just tried to install nvidia-glx and now it's removing everything i ever installed
[05:36] <vista> and why "subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 10"?
[05:36] <serfio> ma qui chi lo conosce bene ubuntu
[05:36] <xstation> nickrud: take a look please it talks about segmentation at the end
[05:36] <cdubya> Rdde, so whoever you have accounts created for on that ubuntu box should be able to login.
[05:36] <cdubya> Rdde, but only those.
[05:36] <serfio> c' qualcuno che parla italiano
[05:37] <cdubya> !it
[05:37] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:37] <Rdde> cdubya,  if I dont want all the unix users to be albe to connect, can i do that?
[05:37] <tRSS> !firestarter
[05:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[05:37] <nkour> hello everyone
[05:37] <cdubya> Rdde, not absolutely sure, but I think you could set their default shell to be /bin/false and they couldn't login......afaik anyways.
[05:38] <jcplata> nickrud: thank you, now the printer it's function very well... thanks a lot
[05:38] <ygetartson> cdubya: where could i get more informed about the prob?
[05:38] <nkour> lsb_release is this executable BUGGY in Ubuntu?
[05:38] <cdubya> ygetartson, I was just googling about it.....:)
[05:38] <nkour> in Dapper at least
[05:38] <nickrud> xstation, that error is different from yours. False alarm. :)
[05:38] <Yggdrassil> cdubya, yup, that or /dev/null (works to)
[05:38] <grogoreo> hi
[05:38] <grogoreo> for some reason when I visit sites using Firefox, the only way I can view the page is if I resize the window and the rendered page will display
[05:38] <nkour> lsb_release --id --codename --release --short ==>  6.06
[05:38] <cdubya> Yggdrassil, good, I'm not absolutely off the rocker in the corner o'the room on that one.....:)
[05:39] <xstation> nickrud: so still have to find out I suppose
[05:39] <nkour> in oly accepts last arguemnt!
[05:39] <Yggdrassil> cdubya, me neither :P
[05:39] <ciro_> i need help to mount my usb device. pmount cant load it automatically
[05:39] <cdubya> heh
[05:39] <ygetartson> cdubya: you are still in it? wow, i have to grow my time feeling a little better to fit IRC standards :D
[05:39] <cdubya> heh
[05:39] <nickrud> xstation, but, update-grub did not find your sarge partition
[05:39] <xstation> nickrud: which means?
[05:39] <cdubya> ygetartson, I've found a few things, but it takes a little "sifting"....
[05:40] <nickrud> xstation, you'll need to add it by hand
[05:40] <ygetartson> yes, i imagine that
[05:41] <Enthusiast78> I need kernel sources to build a kernel module but the kernel-source package available from aptitude (kernel-source-2.6.11 or kernel-source-2.6.10) doesn't match my running kernel (2.6.12-9). Do I have to upgrade my kernel-image?
[05:41] <ygetartson> but i think, i just have to have time now, as much as it takes
[05:41] <knanand> I'm not able to browse files on my drives... When I goto Desktop on Places menu I get an error "There is no default action associated with this location." Why is it? How can I solve This? Somebody please Help Me...
[05:41] <cdubya> ygetartson, yeah
[05:42] <Yggdrassil> apt-get install openvpn - E: Couldn't find package openvpn  ????
[05:42] <cdubya> ygetartson, I just googled for "rebuilding reiser superblock on ubuntu"
[05:42] <ana> Hirvinen, i have downloaded OO2, but the launcher still launched OOo 1.1.5. i right-clicked on it to change the preferences and the launcher editor came up; i changed the path and then thelauncher didn't work, have changed it back to what it was but again it doesnt work - killed. ideas please...
[05:42] <Yggdrassil> oookay
[05:42] <ygetartson> cdubya: did that produce something nice?
[05:42] <cdubya> Rdde, you get it installed?
[05:42] <ana> ooops sorry meant to say Hi, not Hirvinen
[05:42] <Stormx2> Sound recorder is broken... I get "ALSA Device "default" had an error"... what do I do now? I really need this...
[05:42] <cdubya> ygetartson, got lot's o'hits.....but google doesn't give me a nicety rating yet.
[05:42] <cdubya> :)
[05:42] <vista> could anyone tell how can i return to pure cmdline from xwindows?
[05:42] <Stormx2> shouldn't have followed that stupid guide on the forums...
[05:43] <ana> knanand, you don't browse your files with places
[05:43] <ygetartson> :)
[05:43] <Rdde> cdubya,  will im getting secont tought =) will probably do it latet tonight.. thanks for you help mate
[05:43] <cdubya> Rdde, np.
[05:43] <knanand> ana: How else???
[05:43] <ana> knanand, you do applications, accessories, file manager
[05:43] <Yggdrassil> vista, you mean as in not booting into gui?
[05:43] <vista> or exit it
[05:43] <ana> sorry knanand file browser
[05:43] <nto-ubu> i get the message "No files to extract" when typing "unrar x ~/Downloads/FILENAME.rar ~/Downloads/" .. what am i doing wrong?
[05:44] <ygetartson> i think, with an ext fs, the sb might have been backuped
[05:44] <knanand> ana: Idon't find File Manager or Browser...
[05:44] <ygetartson> but this way, not.
[05:44] <Yggdrassil> vista, you would have to go whateverkernel-TUI when booting.. then you would use terminal only.. you can go gui by typing startx.. and exit gui by login off..
[05:44] <Rdde> my ubuntu fileserver is going to play webradio 24/7.. anyone have a sugestion what program to use?
[05:44] <Stormx2> Tell you what, could someone run "gstreamer-properties" and tell me what the default sink and source are?
[05:44] <ana> knanand, you might have it in system tools?
[05:45] <vista> opening terminal, and input "login off"?
[05:45] <ana> in the latest stable version, it is in Applications - > accessories - > file browser
[05:45] <Yggdrassil> vista, maybe I missunderstood you... can you repeat?
[05:45] <Rdde> anyone has an ide what program to use for 24/7 webradio?
[05:46] <vista> yes, i'd like to exit gui
[05:46] <knanand> ana : Idont find it anywhere...
[05:46] <cdubya> Rdde, you're wanting to just play an audio stream?
[05:46] <Storkme> when i start xserver/gnome it freezes on "Window Manager"
[05:46] <Yggdrassil> vista, log off (from the graphical menu)
[05:46] <vista> i want a pure cmdline envirenment for some updating
[05:46] <Yggdrassil> or log out
[05:46] <arrick> vista system>logout>logout
[05:46] <Rdde> cdubya, yeh,, as easy as possible
[05:46] <Rdde> cdubya,  want it to play 24/7 =)
[05:46] <Rorgo> Yggdrassil: you were right, the locales were messed up on my system apparently
[05:46] <cdubya> Rdde, Rythmbox?
[05:47] <ana> knanand, try places home folder...
[05:47] <Yggdrassil> vista, if you want to go pure terminal mode (shell), you have to restart the workstation, and on the boot menu, you choose the TUI boot mode (Test User Interface)
[05:47] <vista> but there is no selection like "return to cmd" or "exit gui"
[05:47] <cdubya> Rdde, You can setup a new Internet Radio Station under File
[05:47] <Yggdrassil> text .. not test
[05:47] <vista> i got it
[05:47] <Storkme> when i start xserver/gnome it freezes on "Window Manager"
[05:47] <arrick> vists, logout out wll put you to command
[05:47] <cdubya> Rdde, err, under Music
[05:48] <green_earz> Rdde: check out streamtuner
[05:48] <vista> no, arrick
[05:48] <Rdde> green_earz,  sounds good what is it?
[05:48] <vista> reboot might be a good suggestion
[05:48] <vista> i will try
[05:48] <arrick> vista, really, it does on mine
[05:48] <takedown> !easysource
[05:48] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:48] <knanand> ana : In places i have Desktop, my mount medias and then search for files and recent documents...
[05:48] <Yggdrassil> vista, ok... follow this
[05:49] <xstation> nickrud: ok give me a clue something like title sarge kernel 2.6.12-10-386 (recovery mode) (on /dev/hda0)
[05:49] <xstation> root (hd0,0)
[05:49] <xstation> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/hda0 ro single
[05:49] <xstation> initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-10-386
[05:49] <xstation> savedefault
[05:49] <vista> i got relog in on mine
[05:49] <xstation> boot if this is incorrect please tell me
[05:49] <ana> knanand, it looks like you need to do a serious update/upgrade...
[05:49] <arrick> ok
[05:49] <green_earz> Rdde: internet radio app. as all the listing of  shoutcast
[05:49] <ygetartson> cdubya: do you knew of a tool to read the content of a corrupt reiserfs partition, or to make a copy?
[05:49] <Yggdrassil> vista, start the computer.. from the boot menu, choose one of the TUI modes (Text User Mode).. you will end up on a login prompt.. log in.. if you then want GUI, you have to start the Xserver manualy by typing startx
[05:49] <arrick> when you relogin, you choose the tui from there vista
[05:49] <vista> thanks
[05:49] <vista> i know
[05:50] <arrick> ok
[05:50] <vista> bye for a reboot
[05:50] <arrick> yep
[05:50] <ygetartson> cdubya: i really have nothing near to a backup
[05:50] <arrick> I gotta go, later
[05:50] <green_earz> Rdde:http://www.shoutcast.com/
[05:50] <nickrud> xstation, please don't paste here ; and yes (that's not the kernel you show in your debian grub, by the way)
[05:50] <cdubya> ygetartson, ouch. That was what I was going to suggest.......
[05:50] <ygetartson> ouch.
[05:50] <Yggdrassil> accordingly you could change the runlevel from 5 to 3 but since ubuntu gives you a tui boot option it's better to opt for that way
[05:51] <igcek> excuse me, is there any possibility to get instalation cd for ubuntu large for ex a 1mb, and when it boots it gets all the kernel and everyhing thru internet? thank you for the reply
[05:51] <Yggdrassil> igcek, you mean like suse does, a network install disk?
[05:51] <igcek> ya
[05:52] <knanand> ana: I use 5.10... Can i install any thing. I am new to Linux and i find it very difficult to do some common tasks, Like playing music, browsing files, Movies....
[05:52] <xstation> nickrud: in the sare grub but is it exacly correct if not tell me please where the correction shuold be
[05:52] <cdubya> ygetartson, the one site I saw suggested doing that to another drive at least to recover the files....then running the --rebuild-tree, at least I think that's the order he did it in.
[05:52] <xstation> sarge
[05:52] <nickrud> Yggdrassil, just so you know, ubuntu doesn't use run levels for controlling the gui/terminal startup ; it boots into rc.2
[05:52] <nickrud> *rc2.d i mean
[05:52] <ygetartson> cdubya: ok. how can 1 do this?
[05:52] <trainer> is anyone else here using eclipse?
[05:53] <truz24> trainer, I use eclipse.
[05:53] <ygetartson> the part is not mountable
[05:53] <Yggdrassil> nickrud, ic... well I just started experimenting with this debian based system... I have been using redhat for ages
[05:53] <nickrud> xstation, title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.27-2-386 <-- this is what your grub says you have
[05:53] <loststar4545> whats the best program for podcasts
[05:53] <Yggdrassil> igcek, maybe this is of some help: http://gridpt1.fe.up.pt/mlopes/blog/index.php/ubuntu-network-install/
[05:54] <trainer> truz24: have you experienced problems installing plugins?
[05:54] <whaley> trainer: what types of problems?
[05:54] <truz24> just put the plugin in the plugins directory...
[05:54] <truz24> thats what i do
[05:54] <truz24> I use the tomcat plugin
[05:54] <xstation> nickrud: ok thanks then that part needs to be altered what about the words letters and spaves in the rest of the line please
[05:54] <xstation> spaces
[05:54] <trainer> truz24 i meant from within eclipse using and update url
[05:54] <nickrud> Yggdrassil, yeah, I figured that :)  rc2.d -> rc5.d are the same. invoke-rc.d gdm stop is the way you'd do that
[05:55] <Yggdrassil> truz24, that, or create a link to it (ln -s)
[05:55] <truz24> no, i do not use it that way.
[05:55] <truz24> Yggdrassil, i'm using it under windows currently.
[05:55] <Yggdrassil> truz24, ic
[05:55] <trainer> whaley: it seems that when I install eclipse via synaptic, it stores the features in /usr/share, while eclipse expects them to be located in /usr/lib
[05:56] <nickrud> xstation, if you do have a 2.4.27 kernel, you should be able to cut and paste from one menu.lst to the other.
[05:56] <ygetartson> does anyone know how to make a raw copy of a hdd partition?
[05:56] <Yggdrassil> nickrud, I must admit though, my first impressions are positive, ubuntu 5.10 detected all my hardware (including the acton wifi card - using madwifi) during installation.
[05:56] <Rdde> green_earz, shutcast is just for win=
[05:56] <whaley> trainer: I would install eclipse without using syanptic
[05:56] <ana> my problem's been fixed, thanks
[05:57] <cdubya> ygetartson, just a sec
[05:57] <whaley> trainer: there were some hair permissions problems when i installed with syanptic
[05:57] <nickrud> Yggdrassil, I haven't used redhat since around 7.3, and ubuntu is way better :)
[05:57] <whaley> trainer: most of which dealt with plugins that didn't work correctly due to those permissions
[05:57] <xstation> nickrud: but its not in the ununtu menu.1st
[05:57] <Yggdrassil> nickrud, well once you work out the security bugs maybe :P
[05:57] <nickrud> xstation, you need to add it
[05:57] <cdubya> ygetartson, maybe here?  http://www.clasohm.com/blog/archive/2005/01/
[05:57] <_jason> xstation: make sure you do menu.lst, with a lowercase L, not menu.1st
[05:58] <ygetartson> thx, *reading*
[05:58] <nickrud> Yggdrassil, what stinkin' security bugs, lol
[05:58] <cdubya> ygetartson, np. Sorry, I gotta run. I'll be back on after a bit.
[05:58] <trainer> whaley: ok. figured i have to install one or the other manually. eclipse-platform has pretty numerous dependencies though
[05:58] <Yggdrassil> nickrud, storing passwords in clear text?? tsk tsk...
[05:58] <Yggdrassil> hehe
[05:59] <green_earz> Rdde: no you can stream direct off the shoutcast site or use streamtuner.  aptitude show streamtuner
[05:59] <ygetartson> bye, then
[05:59] <knanand> How to browse files, listen Music, Play Music??? Please Help Me...
[05:59] <xstation> nickrud: yes i know but I do not know what to add in the sarge menu. lst I gave an example but I need to know what the exact line will be
[05:59] <Yggdrassil> nickrud, but I have to admit from the hardware support point, it's pretty good.. more hardware support than redhat...
[06:00] <nickrud> xstation, I gotta go for a bit: but what you're doing is copying from the debian menu.lst to the ubuntu one. It may not fix your problem, but you'll be working in just one, and the ubuntu one (more likely to get help here with that) One last thing, be sure that you have the right kernel identified
[06:01] <knanand> How to browse files, listen Music, Play Music??? Please Help Me...
[06:01] <nickrud> Yggdrassil, I have simple hardware needs, but the most important part I've seen is the plethora of tools for maintaining the system.
[06:01] <xstation> nickrud: ok thanks I will not bother with sarge for the moment I will stay with ubuntu
[06:01] <_jason> knanand: places menu > home, applicatiosn > sound and video > rhythmbox
[06:02] <whaley> trainer: what is eclipse platform?
[06:02] <nickrud> xstation, sarge has it's uses, but I'd use unstable on a desktop. Now, I really gotta go. See you
[06:02] <Yggdrassil> nickrud, my 2 main concerns are security and the ability to use the LTmodem and the Action wifi card... under redhat it has been proven a pain to set those up on my IBM thinkpad.. Ubuntu installed and configured the devices in a breeze... now I am testing and hardening the security of the system
[06:03] <Yggdrassil> acton.. not action
[06:03] <trainer> whaley: the package i grab from synaptic
[06:03] <bronson> Is anyone else running the regular Ubuntu kernel with >1G of RAM?
[06:03] <whaley> trainer: that installs eclipse and what else?
[06:03] <bronson> I have 1.5G in my laptop but memory usage never goes above 1.0G.
[06:03] <whaley> trainer: i recall syanptic only installing eclipse and that was it
[06:04] <h0nus> can someone tell me the proper method for installing .rpm files?
[06:04] <Yggdrassil> h0nus, rpm -ivh rpmfile.rpm
[06:04] <apokryphos> Yggdrassil: no, not on Ubuntu
[06:04] <Yggdrassil> he asked about rpm files
[06:04] <h0nus> ty
[06:04] <apokryphos> h0nus: there is no proper method; Ubuntu is a debian-based system and thus uses the .deb package management system.
[06:04] <vista> i failed
[06:05] <Rdde> i get unexpected edning of stream when trying to listen to webradio in rythmbox
[06:05] <bronson> You can use alien to convert rpms to debs.
[06:05] <bronson> And bac.
[06:05] <h0nus> will the rpm commadn work?
[06:05] <vista> i cannot find a selection about booting with cmdline
[06:05] <trainer> whaley: checking...
[06:05] <apokryphos> h0nus: your best chance is to always use alien, really.
[06:05] <bronson> Rdde, that's better than I get.  Rhythmbox streaming is notoriously buggy.
[06:05] <Yggdrassil> h0nus, not with ubuntu
[06:05] <bronson> rpm
[06:05] <Rdde> bronson, what to use then?
[06:06] <apokryphos> h0nus: what are you trying to install?
[06:06] <LathropWells> rdde - i use streamtuner
[06:06] <bronson> Personally, I use xmms.  Rock solid.
[06:06] <vista> can i boot with only cmdline?
[06:06] <bronson> AND I WISH THERE WAS SOMETHING BETTER!!!
[06:06] <h0nus> i'm trying to find an asci c compiler
[06:06] <vista> i can set something to do this befroe
[06:06] <h0nus> preferably a binary so i don't have to compile
[06:06] <apokryphos> bronson: are you kidding?
[06:06] <bronson> It drives me nuts that I'm still using xmms, 6 years later.
[06:06] <_jason> h0nus: what does an asci c compiler do?
[06:06] <Yggdrassil> bronson, :P
[06:06] <jeddy3> asci c compiler?
[06:07] <apokryphos> bronson: there are many far superior applications
[06:07] <TSCHAK> bronson, try banshee
[06:07] <Rdde> LathropWells, how to get? apt-get?
[06:07] <jeddy3> or ansi c compiler?
[06:07] <bronson> TSCHAK, banshee doesn't do streaming.
[06:07] <solid_liq> bronson: personaly I use a combination of mpd and amarok
[06:07] <Yggdrassil> apt-get can't find packages... did I miss something?
[06:07] <LathropWells> install the streamtuner package with synaptic and it will install and configure xmms for internet radio and make 200+ radio station presets available
[06:07] <h0nus> it's a necessary component for another application i'm trying to install, which compiles some processes in c
[06:07] <_jason> Yggdrassil: what package?
[06:07] <jeddy3> h0nus, but asci?
[06:07] <solid_liq> bronson: I need to get around to finding out if there's a way to use amarok to control mpd though :D
[06:07] <apokryphos> Yggdrassil: apt-cache search
[06:07] <Yggdrassil> _jason, openvpn
[06:08] <LathropWells> shoutcast and a few others
[06:08] <jeddy3> h0nus, you mean an ordinary ansi c compiler, like gcc?
[06:08] <_jason> ubotu: tell Yggdrassil about universe
[06:08] <h0nus> yes
[06:08] <bronson> solid_liq, I liked the idea behind mpd.  I hope the UIs will catch up.
[06:08] <apokryphos> h0nus: install the build-essential package
[06:08] <h0nus> gcc is exactly what i'm looking for
[06:08] <h0nus> ok
[06:08] <h0nus> ty
[06:08] <Yggdrassil> _jason, I figured I missed something
[06:08] <Yggdrassil> thx
[06:08] <jeddy3> h0nus, yes, what apokryphos said :)
[06:09] <healot> freaking pppd "receive-all" options
[06:09] <solid_liq> bronson: that's why I'm hoping to be able to use amarok to control it someday.  Right now I just use the CLI to control it.
[06:09] <gmi01> hello anyone i how can I  add hostname completion?
[06:09] <h0nus> i'm working as best i can with ubuntu because i cannot get gentoo to install for the life of me =\
[06:09] <Yggdrassil> what's this synaptic everyone is talking about? a different package installer?
[06:11] <Rdde> how do i start a program in a terminal and be able to close the terminal?
[06:11] <Yggdrassil> h0nus, gentoo is pretty complex to install.. it requires some working knowledge of linux... if you are rather new to the linux world, you are better of for the time being with distributions like ubuntu, mandriva or fedora
[06:11] <solid_liq> h0nus: I'm actually switching all my computers away from gentoo; it's way too much of a pain to maintain
[06:11] <Matic`Makovec> Rdde, you could screen it maybe
[06:11] <h0nus> hmm
[06:11] <healot> add "&"
[06:11] <miranda> quieres salir com migo
[06:11] <h0nus> i hear it is very flexible
[06:12] <AngryElf> hey all, I just installed apache from synaptic, but /etc/init.d/httpd doesn't exist......how do i stop/start the service, etc?
[06:12] <shajiphilip> HI EVERYBODY..is this a place to ask Question about ubuntu (ima a newbie)
[06:12] <Yggdrassil> h0nus, it is yes... but you first need to understand how linux works.. babysteps man
[06:12] <whaley> h0nus: to piggy back what Yggdrassil said, I would learn the bare fundamentals from something besides gentoo first, then try gentoo later
[06:12] <Matic`Makovec> AngryElf, you could do it by apachectl start/stop/restart
[06:12] <miranda> ovnvnjvv
[06:12] <Matic`Makovec> or if you downloaded apache2 it's apache2ctl
[06:12] <green_earz> Rdde: have a look at screen > http://www.hn2.org/docs/tbg/screen.html
[06:12] <whaley> h0nus: gentoo is a great distro to learn the ins and outs, but can be absolutely daunting and painful to a beginner
[06:12] <solid_liq> h0nus: it's fun for learning, but you'd be better off learning with slackware first if you're looking to learn.  It'll teach you a lot more.
[06:12] <gmi01> How can I add hostname completion to the bash completion?
[06:13] <ragu> snmpwalk: No securityName specified (Sub-id not found: (top) -> enterprises)
[06:13] <ragu> what error is this
[06:13] <h0nus> well i have a friend who uses gentoo and i was hoping to get some help from him
[06:13] <h0nus> but i can't even get the friggin thing to install
[06:13] <h0nus> keeps hanging
[06:13] <h0nus> o well
[06:13] <h0nus> =)
[06:13] <Yggdrassil> solid_liq, I agree, slackware (eventhough looking complex to install) is far easier to install than gentoo for a beginner
[06:13] <whaley> h0nus: hanging at what part (i know this isn't #gentoo, but I'm curious)
[06:14] <h0nus> the part where i click "install" and it just sits there for 9 hours on end
[06:14] <whaley> lol :)
[06:14] <h0nus> ^^^
[06:14] <Stormx2> man
[06:14] <whaley> you must be using their new graphical installer
[06:14] <ragu> any one using netsnmp
[06:14] <Stormx2> as much as I hate IE
[06:14] <Stormx2> i really need it for web dev >.>
[06:14] <Stormx2> and the version I have running sucks at JS
[06:14] <ragu> snmpwalk: No securityName specified (Sub-id not found: (top) -> enterprises)  i get this error
[06:14] <h0nus> i tried graphical, then tried command-line and tried compiling my own kernel
[06:14] <solid_liq> Yggdrassil: and it'll teach you a lot more because you have to do everything manually, instead of relying upon python scripts to do the work for you
[06:14] <h0nus> problem is i can't get the thing to recognize my eth0 card
[06:14] <xai> Is there a tool I can use in icewm that will tell me battery status for a laptop?
[06:15] <h0nus> so i can't connect to the net
[06:15] <Yggdrassil> solid_liq, agreed, that how I learned linux.. thx to slackware.. I cursed, but I learned a lot
[06:15] <Xylene> what's the path for Xorg drivers in ubuntu dapper flight 5? i have to replace an old neomagic driver (i have to with all distros, the included Xorg driver is bad) but now I can't find the path
[06:15] <whaley> h0nus: *shrug*... the #gentoo guys are pretty helpful if you want to ask them about it
[06:15] <solid_liq> Yggdrassil: yeah I loved it
[06:15] <h0nus> lol
[06:15] <h0nus> tried
[06:15] <whaley> doh :(
[06:15] <h0nus> sat there for 20 minutes listening to their conversation
[06:15] <h0nus> not one had anything to say to me
[06:15] <solid_liq> Yggdrassil: I'd consider going back to it if it had a better packaging system and came compiled for CPUs other than the i486 :)
[06:16] <h0nus> how flexible is ubuntu?
[06:16] <Stormx2> xai: Think so. Try right clicking a panel and going "Add to panel", there should be one there
[06:16] <Yggdrassil> solid_liq, that was exactly my reason for moving on to redhat... now I am testing ubuntu.. this is my first experience with a debian based system.. so far it's mostly positive.
[06:17] <Yggdrassil> just have to figure out some stuff
[06:17] <Yggdrassil> trail and error lol
[06:17] <ice> I can't ssh into my school server
[06:17] <ice> everytime I ssh it gives me prompt for a password
[06:17] <solid_liq> Yggdrassil: yeah I like it.  I used gentoo for about 2.5+ years after switching away from slackware...  way too much compiling
[06:17] <ice> then I put my root pass in and it doesn't work
[06:17] <ice> what do I do
[06:18] <ice> is it my version my ssh maybe
[06:18] <solid_liq> ice: why are you using your root pass?
[06:18] <Yggdrassil> solid_liq, yup... I looked at the gentoo installation manual (5 pages, mostly about compiling for days without an end)... sighed and said: takes to long...  forget it
[06:18] <solid_liq> ice: it's asking for your password for your school account
[06:19] <solid_liq> Yggdrassil: nah, that's not the half of it.  I mean when you run  emerge -u world  to update your system on a daily basis, and it takes 45 minutes to 4 hours to update, ON A DAILY BASIS!!!!
[06:19] <AngryElf> my firefox doesn't want to read mythweb.php ....it keeps asking for a program to run it, if i tell firefox to open the file it just repeats, what's going on?
[06:19] <Yggdrassil> solid_liq, eew
[06:20] <Yggdrassil> solid_liq, who has time for that?
[06:20] <solid_liq> Yggdrassil: well you don't have to monitor it, but it's still a real pain
[06:21] <fit4lfe> why can't I ssh into my school linux server
[06:21] <fit4lfe> is it because the school as an older ssh server maybe
[06:21] <solid_liq> Yggdrassil: it makes me LOVE how fast updates are with ubuntu :D
[06:21] <Jhair> fit4lfe: and the error message is...?
[06:21] <chamo> fit4lfe, can you access it from other places ?
[06:21] <patricia> ola
[06:22] <Yggdrassil> solid_liq, I liked the redhat up2date option... fast and simple.. and I noticed ubuntu uses a simular system... bottom line is... once I have the system hardened and have a vpn client running I actualy might stick with it and turn away from redhat
[06:22] <chamo> ola patricia
[06:22] <igcek> hello, is it posible to install ubuntu thru internet?
[06:22] <patricia> !!!
[06:22] <ubotu> patricia: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:22] <fit4lfe> Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive).
[06:22] <patricia> ei k pasaaa
[06:22] <patricia> k tal de dond eres
[06:22] <chamo> mmhg
[06:22] <solid_liq> Yggdrassil: apt is way better than anything redhat has ever done
[06:22] <fit4lfe> all it does is tell me to input a password
[06:22] <Jhair> fit4lfe: you are entering a wrong password or your account doesn't exist
[06:22] <vista> i cant login with a cmline
[06:23] <fit4lfe> it exist
[06:23] <vista> how can i set it as default?
[06:23] <Jhair> fit4lfe: then you are entering a wrong password
[06:23] <fit4lfe> I use putty on my windows machine and I get in just fine
[06:23] <solid_liq> fit4lfe: you're not allowed to log in then
[06:23] <patricia> ola
[06:23] <fit4lfe> well how can I log in from putty then
[06:23] <fit4lfe> and it works
[06:23] <nosilver4u> Angryelf, it's most likely a misconfigured webserver
[06:23] <patricia> argun espaol x favor?
[06:23] <Yggdrassil> solid_liq, maybe... I will decide that for myself (no offense, but I'm picky hehe)... security is a BIG issue to me
[06:23] <solid_liq> fit4lfe: have you checked your capslock key?
[06:23] <mds\> fit4lfe: have you checked your log files?
[06:24] <patricia> k?
[06:24] <greg_> try with this command ssh -l account nr. ip
[06:24] <mds\> see if theres a helpful message there
[06:24] <patricia> k koo dics!!!
[06:24] <solid_liq> Yggdrassil: there's a reason debian is way more popular among experienced linux users than redhat
[06:24] <Jhair> fit4lfe: try with the ssh -v option to see more details
[06:24] <fit4lfe> k
[06:24] <greg_> fit4 try this comand
[06:24] <Yggdrassil> solid_liq, but first I have to figure out the way debian is being managed. I'm so used to redhat I keep looking in the wrong spots hehe
[06:24] <patricia> minnie_patricia@hotmail.com!!!
[06:25] <Jhair> fit4lfe: or better: use ssh -vv
[06:25] <patricia> ola
[06:25] <solid_liq> fit4lfe: oh that reminds me, is your linux user name the same as your school account user name?  you need -l to specify it if not
[06:25] <patricia> bobby
[06:25] <patricia> tas ai?
[06:25] <fit4lfe> did that too
[06:25] <bintut> anyone here implement ubuntu-5.10 + ltsp?
[06:25] <patricia> '
[06:25] <fit4lfe> ssh -l  username ip
[06:25] <fit4lfe> didn't work
[06:25] <fit4lfe> either
[06:25] <greg_> yes
[06:26] <patricia> killo kiers un cafe?
[06:26] <bintut> when i tried to boot my first workstation, i got this error:
[06:26] <solid_liq> Yggdrassil: well gentoo's portage system is similar.  Once you get used to portage or apt, you *never* look back.  They are *SO* much better than any other package managers.
[06:26] <greg_> have you not account
[06:26] <bintut> Segment [0009E6E8,0009EC80]  does not fit in any memory region
[06:26] <bintut> ldog unless
[06:26] <patricia> emmmm
[06:26] <fit4lfe> I have an account
[06:26] <greg_> try with root

[06:26] <fit4lfe> k
[06:26] <bintut> Probing pci nic
[06:26] <greg_> if you know it
[06:26] <bintut> Probing isa nic

[06:26] <bintut> anyone?
[06:26] <greg_> ssh -l root  ip
[06:26] <patricia> k paxa pixaaaaa
[06:26] <patricia> bueno k yo m las piro vampiroo
[06:27] <Yggdrassil> solid_liq, I am more talking about system management and configuration (prime example, debian works with rc's, redhat with runlevels) takes a while to figure all those little differences out
[06:27] <solid_liq> bintut: that from an ubuntu install?
[06:27] <greg_> of course the pc answer to you password root
[06:27] <fit4lfe> that worked
[06:27] <patricia> xiusaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:27] <patricia> k m voy
[06:27] <fit4lfe> why do I have use root
[06:27] <fit4lfe> don't get it
[06:27] <patricia> sylvain_ holaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
[06:27] <patricia> hello!!!!
[06:27] <greg_> what??
[06:27] <Jhair> fit4lfe: you are the administrator of your school server? or are you just trolling here?
[06:27] <greg_> now is ok??
[06:28] <bintut> solid_liq: yes
[06:28] <solid_liq> Yggdrassil: yeah, every distro has different init scripts
[06:28] <bintut> solid_liq: i apt-get it
[06:28] <patricia> m voy
[06:28] <solid_liq> bintut: huh?
[06:29] <Yggdrassil> solid_liq, yup... and ubuntu stores some configuration files at different locations... so that's something I have to figure out to... but that is (like you correctly pointed out) normal for any distribution...
[06:29] <Init5> hi all, I just installed fluxbox on my breezy, -how do I make it boot into that window manager?
[06:30] <fit4lfe> I can either be administrator or I have a web  account I use for the apache serve
[06:30] <fit4lfe> either way I can get in
[06:30] <solid_liq> Yggdrassil: and annoying.  If I had lots of spare time on my hands, I would create a fuse filesystem to give a virtual filesystem into /etc with the locations for everything in the vfs standardized across all distros
[06:30] <bintut> brb
[06:31] <Yggdrassil> solid_liq, well, that why once you know a specific distro, you tend to stick with it...
[06:31] <solid_liq> fit4lfe: do you mean you have to be logged in as root on your local machine to ssh, or login as root on the remote machine?
[06:31] <sfar> name a good ftp-client please
[06:31] <Yggdrassil> solid_liq, but in general, it's only a minor inconveneance
[06:31] <sfar> Init5, you can choose "session" when you log in
[06:31] <solid_liq> Yggdrassil: even more important, that's why there aren't any good GUI configuration tools that aren't distro specific
[06:31] <zapy> salut
[06:32] <fit4lfe> ssh on my home machine to remote into school machine
[06:32] <ubuntu> hey guyz , i just got ubuntu live cd and i like it
[06:32] <fit4lfe> but I'm in now
[06:32] <ubuntu> how ???
[06:32] <fit4lfe> just wierd how I got in
[06:32] <solid_liq> Yggdrassil: I would love to have a web admin tool available, cross-distro
[06:32] <zapy> bye
[06:32] <Yggdrassil> fit4lfe, you will have to talk to your shool network admin
[06:32] <fit4lfe> yeah
[06:32] <fit4lfe> but why does it work with putty
[06:32] <Yggdrassil> Soliah, one day maybe... remember.. linux is on the move
[06:32] <fit4lfe> though
[06:32] <sfar> ubuntu, type /nick yournickname
[06:33] <sfar> where "yournickname" can be anything
[06:33] <fit4lfe> I think its the ssh version from dapper
[06:33] <solid_liq> fit4lfe: no, I meant which machine requires you to use root?  Your local machine I take it?
[06:33] <Yggdrassil> fit4lfe, he might have to grant you remote login permitions
[06:33] <th0rndike> guys
[06:33] <ubuntu> hey
[06:33] <fit4lfe> maybe
[06:33] <solid_liq> fit4lfe: no, I meant which machine requires you to use root?  Your local machine I take it?
[06:33] <ubuntu> its not changin nick
[06:33] <healot> It is on the move, maybe not for average desktop users
[06:33] <fit4lfe> yeah
[06:33] <_jason> ubuntu: /nick newname
[06:33] <sfar> ubuntu: maybe the nickname already was taken
[06:33] <ubuntu> `windows is fur games , linix is for internet right ????
[06:33] <th0rndike> guys i need to set some enviroment variables... how do i do that? i want them to stay
[06:33] <solid_liq> fit4lfe: do:   ls -l `which ssh`
[06:34] <Storkme> wtfd is this
[06:34] <solid_liq> fit4lfe: and tell me what the file permissions are
[06:34] <healot> VARIABLE=VALUE, th0rndike
[06:34] <Storkme> whenever i try and use the kernel "2.6.12-10-k7-smp" it just says "Segmentation fault" a few times while booting up, and quits
[06:34] <Yggdrassil> healot, export to make then sticky?
[06:34] <ubuntu> WHAT IS THE BINIFIT OF USING LINIX OVER WINDOWS ?????
[06:34] <sfar> windows is for nothing, games are not very much for linux
[06:34] <_jason> !caps
[06:34] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[06:34] <healot> you can put it on your bashrc...
[06:35] <Yggdrassil> healot, ic.. thx
[06:35] <ubuntu> i am yellin :)
[06:35] <ubuntu> sorry
[06:35] <ubuntu> so what is the binifit ?
[06:35] <solid_liq> ubuntu: benefit?
[06:35] <th0rndike> healot, that simple? like i wanna add classpath i juz do it like that? the prob is that i have more jdk installed and i want it to look in some specific place
[06:35] <ubuntu> yes
[06:35] <solid_liq> fit4lfe: done that yet?
[06:35] <_jason> ubuntu: libre and often gratis
[06:36] <h0nus> how do i install ssh2?
[06:36] <Yggdrassil> ubotu, frankly, you use the operating system you feel most comfortable with and best suits your needs... there is no such thing as a "good" or "bad" operating system.. it all depends on what you want to do with it.
[06:36] <healot> yes... that simple
[06:36] <ubotu> Yggdrassil: I think you lost me on that one
[06:36] <h0nus> v0.11
[06:36] <solid_liq> ubuntu: stability, lack of viruses/adware/spyware/marketing bs
[06:36] <healot> VARIABLE=VALUE
[06:36] <Storkme> ubuntu, what you should be asking is, what are the benefits of using winows over ubuntu?
[06:36] <healot> for JDK, the variable is "CLASSPATH"
[06:37] <Kie> Oooh ooh pick me, i know the answer to that one!
[06:37] <Kie> Windows has NO benefit, other than it's stupified
[06:37] <Storkme> th0rndike, use the -cp or -classpath option to set the classpath
[06:37] <healot> Kie, you so anti microsoft :)
[06:37] <lappies> Kie i'm with you
[06:38] <th0rndike> Storkme,  yeh but its annoying... i want it to look there right away
[06:38] <xai> stormx2: I'm running icewm.
[06:38] <abre> would anyone know of a good place for doucmentation on the hybserv package?
[06:38] <Storkme> th0rndike, what are you taslking about?
[06:38] <solid_liq> wow, it's obvious you guys are relatively new to linux!!  I'm used to being around people who haven't used windows since windows 3.11, 95 or 98
[06:38] <Stormx2> xai: o.O you lost me... what was your prob again?
[06:38] <th0rndike> when i compile the java prog i need to say "javac -classpath <path> program.java
[06:38] <solid_liq> they are *way* more anti microsoft than you guys :D
[06:39] <lappies> ahoy
[06:39] <h0nus> <<<this n00b needs help (again)
[06:39] <healot> solid_liq, i don't care about when I started using linux. i even started computing with SunOS
[06:39] <h0nus> lol
[06:39] <zaibiechu> is there a IDE for c
[06:39] <th0rndike> i dont want to add the stupid -classpath option
[06:39] <Kie> I think it's important be bilingual in all OSystems
[06:39] <lappies> whats a good kde bluetooth tool?
[06:39] <solid_liq> zaibiechu: kdevelop
[06:39] <Jhair> zaibiechu: yes: emacs
[06:39] <Yggdrassil> solid_liq, I deal on a daily base with a large variety of OS's... they all have their pro's and con's.. like I said earlier.. whatever you feel comfortable with and whatever suits your needs best...
[06:40] <lappies> i got this one that works with winamp, won't a winamp plugin work with xmms?
[06:40] <Kie> So what if i learned the basics from windows, at least i know it to help others, right!?
[06:40] <zaibiechu> i have not installed kde,and don't know how to use emacs
[06:40] <solid_liq> Kie: bilingual in all OS's?  uh...  you might want to look up the definition of bilingual :D
[06:40] <ph8> hi all, has anyone come across the problem of not being able to install extensions in firefox?
[06:40] <healot> lappies, no, win32 binaries cannot run in native linux application
[06:40] <Kie> Yeah i caught that solid
[06:40] <ph8> it just opens the extensions window (which is blank) when i try to install one
[06:40] <zaibiechu> how can i compile c in vi
[06:40] <Kie> *hits head* Slow thinking today
[06:40] <solid_liq> Jhair: emacs isn't an IDE.  I would recommend vim if that's what he was asking :P
[06:41] <Kie> Here's a random ?? How old is everyone in here? I'm always interested to see the variety
[06:41] <Yggdrassil> < ancient
[06:41] <Yggdrassil> :P
[06:41] <Kie> hah, ancient is better in most cases
[06:41] <Jhair> solid_liq: I use emacs daily, and it is an integrated development environment for sure (CC-Mode, PCL-CVS, etc.), and a very powerful one.
[06:41] <kleinlappies2> i got this one that works with winamp, won't a winamp plugin work with xmms?
[06:42] <Storkme> i'm 16.
[06:42] <idefix__> why do the script commands which have a range end with the command from back to front?
[06:42] <Yggdrassil> I was playing with minix when you where still doodling :P
[06:42] <solid_liq> zaibiechu: if you have a makefile, just enter    :! make
[06:42] <Kie> Wow, i never see people even close to my age anywhere in these channels. 18 here
[06:42] <zaibiechu> solid_liq, i have not make
[06:42] <Storkme> Kie, i'm 16.
[06:42] <solid_liq> Jhair: where's the GUI interface editor
[06:42] <ph8> i'm 19 kie
[06:43] <solid_liq> Jhair: ?
[06:43] <Kie> Sweetness ^.^
[06:43] <zaibiechu> i hear that to make a MAP will do this ,but how
[06:43] <kleinlappies2> does winamp plugins work with xmms
[06:43] <Dyna-Work> 27 here...
[06:43] <Russel> hiho
[06:43] <marzo> join #polis
[06:43] <healot> kleinlappies, nay
[06:43] <Storkme> kleinlappies, why would they? winamp and xmms are very different.
[06:43] <Jhair> solid_liq: claiming an IDE should have a GUI interface editor is nonsense (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_development_environment)
[06:43] <healot> no non
[06:44] <Russel> i want to run another xserver to run my games in it, but xinit tells me i am not authorized
[06:44] <solid_liq> zaibiechu: you should read one of the simple guides for vim for programmers.  You can type :help to find one
[06:44] <Yggdrassil> kleinlappies, you can use older winamp skins with xmms.. but that is about it
[06:44] <Yggdrassil> man vim
[06:44] <Yggdrassil> lol
[06:44] <solid_liq> Jhair: that's what people from the windows world expect, so to argue otherwise with any references you can find is irrelevant
[06:44] <Jhair> solid_liq: this is not #windows, but #ubuntu
[06:45] <kleinlappies2> so if a wine install winamp load the plugin i could maybe remote control my pc
[06:45] <solid_liq> Jhair: doesn't matter, the asker is a new convert from windows, which means he is used to the windows "way"
[06:46] <solid_liq> Jhair: er, actually, believe it or not, arrogant bastards at m$ actually call it the "microsoft way"
[06:46] <Yggdrassil> windows = click and point.. linux = read, study, experiment, learn.
[06:46] <void^> and now he knows designing applications with a mouse isn't the linux way
[06:46] <h0nus> trying to find sapr3, and was recommended to this site:
[06:46] <h0nus> http://www.sap.com/solutions/netweaver/linux/eval/index.asp
[06:46] <h0nus> can someone help me find a download? i'm missing it
[06:46] <Storkme> hi, i need some major help: I just installed 'kernel 2.6.12-10-k7-smp' with apt-get and it wont boot up.. it gives me a lot of "segmentation faults" on boot, then hangs.
[06:46] <Jhair> solid_liq: I don't believe your claim "windows users/programmers expect a GUI interface editor in any IDE", using Visual Studio without any GUI editor is common, and nobody claims Visual Studio is not an IDE anymore because of that
[06:46] <ml--> is XAMPP available from the repos? i cant find it.
[06:46] <Jhair> solid_liq: anyway I will stop discussing this now. It's futile
[06:47] <solid_liq> but people need a gentle introduction to prevent them from fleeing back to the dark side because it takes them too much work to learn before they can even see for themselves where any of the benefits lie
[06:47] <solid_liq> Jhair: you're full of shit
[06:47] <healot> xmms support remote control too
[06:47] <Yggdrassil> catfight !!!!!!!!!
[06:48] <healot> kleinlappies, open xmms config, Tab to "General Plugin", and configure "Irman Control"
[06:48] <duelboot> and I just jointed...don't know what started it...darn
[06:48] <solid_liq> Jhair: lemme just ask you one question:  when's the last time you saw a windows app that *didn't* have a GUI interface?  hmmm?
[06:48] <Jhair> solid_liq: please don't insult people (me) in this channel, stop now. I will ignore you from now on.
[06:48] <patrix> solid_liq, telnet !
[06:48] <solid_liq> hahah
[06:48] <Yggdrassil> solid_liq, I just saw one... it's called "command prompt"
[06:48] <Yggdrassil> hehe
[06:49] <Yggdrassil> :P
[06:49] <patrix> solid_liq, ftp !
[06:49] <solid_liq> patrix: that's technicall a DOS program, not a windows program
[06:49] <void^> solid_liq: please do not write *nix software. thank you.
[06:49] <healot> solid_liq, alot
[06:49] <solid_liq> void^: why?  because I understand what the noobs expect?
[06:49] <h0nus> can anyone help? i'm having trouble finding the proper modules to install
[06:49] <h0nus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11107
[06:49] <healot> most of Windows NT Posix compat apps does not have any GUI
[06:50] <h0nus> pasted
[06:50] <patrix> solid_liq, in taht case you'll never find windows apps that are command line only, since lal the command line windows apps are "technically" "DOS APPS"
[06:50] <Yggdrassil> oh guys.. let's go back to assembly language ok?
[06:50] <void^> solid_liq: the "noobs" aren't the ones who should code
[06:50] <xai> stormx2: I guess I just was looking for a tool that would tell me battery status. Can be CLI or gui.
[06:50] <solid_liq> void^: I don't cater to the winfreaks, I just know what they're used to from having provided support in irc channels for several years
[06:50] <solid_liq> (for linux)
[06:50] <healot> dude, get a hold of yourself
[06:51] <healot> Lnux isn't a religion
[06:51] <patrix> WHAT?
[06:51] <Yggdrassil> xai, just add the powermeter gadget to your toolbar
[06:51] <solid_liq> patrix: they are.  I used to work as a C++ software engineer, under windows, and the only way to create a CLI app with Visual Studio is to make your target a DOS executable
[06:51] <healot> we are here to help, no matter from what background, what level of knowledge
[06:51] <Yggdrassil> healot,  blasphemy :P
[06:51] <Yggdrassil> hehe
[06:51] <xai> I installed gkrellm and it seems to indicate battery ok.. But the lappy crashed in the middle of nothing, and then went dormant for 10 mins.. we could not boot it.. using the i810 Xorg driver..
[06:51] <xai> We're trying to rule out different problems right now
[06:51] <xai> Yggdrassil: thanks.
[06:52] <patrix> solid_liq, so your question, asking if there are windows CLI apps, is useless, since they're all DOS apps if they're CLI ;)
[06:52] <void^> .. last time i checked they used to call it "win32 command line executable"
[06:52] <h0nus> !libssh
[06:52] <ubotu> h0nus: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:52] <solid_liq> patrix: that wasn't my question, it was my statement
[06:52] <h0nus> !librfc
[06:52] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, h0nus
[06:52] <patrix> solid_liq Jhair: lemme just ask you one question:  when's the last time you saw a windows app that *didn't* have a GUI interface?  hmmm
[06:53] <healot> split alert
[06:53] <solid_liq> patrix: you should read before speaking
[06:53] <patrix> it was a question ;)
[06:53] <Stormx2> xai: Ah
[06:53] <h0nus> !saprfc
[06:53] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, h0nus
[06:53] <patrix> solid_liq, please, be nice
[06:53] <Stormx2> xai: Well I only know about the gnome app
[06:53] <h0nus> !ssh2
[06:53] <ubotu> h0nus: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:53] <Stormx2> applet rather
[06:53] <Storkme> hi, i need some major help: I just installed 'kernel 2.6.12-10-k7-smp' with apt-get and it wont boot up.. it gives me a lot of "segmentation faults" on boot, then hangs.
[06:53] <Stormx2> let me check....
[06:53] <Jhair> patrix: ?
[06:53] <h0nus> gg ubotu has nothing for me
[06:53] <solid_liq> patrix: and the "hmmm" at the end was to imply that you wouldn't find one
[06:53] <healot> Storkme, is your box have two or more CPUs?
[06:53] <patrix> solid_liq, and my point is that since all cli apps are dos apps and windows apps, your statement doesn't make sense, since you'll always classify them as DOS apps, even if they can only run, say, in WinXP etc
[06:54] <Storkme> healot, of course
[06:54] <Storkme> healot, AMD X2 4200+
[06:54] <healot> dude, you can target a command line even for a Win32 app
[06:54] <Storkme> according to my bios
[06:54] <solid_liq> patrix: no, it has everything to do with the libraries they link to.  Don't you know C/C++ programming principals wrt operating systems?
[06:54] <healot> that's duel core, Storkme :)
[06:54] <healot> not dual CPUs.
[06:54] <Yggdrassil> x2.. dual processor
[06:55] <Yggdrassil> err. dual core processor
[06:55] <Storkme> healot, it's the same - i used to use smp..
[06:55] <idefix__> why do the script commands which have a range end with the command from back to front?
[06:55] <healot> it is still a Single CPU with two core processor :)
[06:55] <healot> not two separate CPUs
[06:55] <Storkme> i used to use the smp kernel, then now it doesn't work
[06:55] <Yggdrassil> shouldn't be a problem
[06:55] <h0nus> !lpq
[06:55] <ubotu> h0nus: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:55] <h0nus> argh!
[06:55] <solid_liq> no, the procs are actually separate, they just live on the same die
[06:55] <duelboot> Storkme, smp with ubuntu or another distro?
[06:56] <solid_liq> it's not like hyperthreading
[06:56] <Storkme> ubuntu
[06:56] <h0nus> !lssl
[06:56] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, h0nus
[06:56] <bisquit> How do I check if DRI is enabled?
[06:56] <h0nus> !-lssl
[06:56] <ubotu> h0nus: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:56] <solid_liq> duelboot: you do have to use SMP.  I have an Athlon64 X2 3800+ myself...
[06:56] <h0nus> ok
[06:56] <healot> bisquit, via the X.0.log file?
[06:57] <duelboot> solid_lid...wasn't disputing anything...didn't see the beginning of the conversation
[06:57] <duelboot> liq...sorry
[06:57] <caglar_> do you know a program which can derive mathematic functions?
[06:57] <bisquit> healot: No I mean by the grep way
[06:57] <h0nus> i'm trying to compile hydra, and hitting a "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lssl" error
[06:57] <Yggdrassil> caglar_, calculator?
[06:57] <h0nus> what is ld?
[06:57] <Yggdrassil> lol
[06:57] <solid_liq> duelboot: use the k8-smp kernel
[06:57] <caglar_> Yggdrassil: which one?
[06:57] <Jhair> caglar_: octave I think
[06:57] <healot> well cat and grep it, bisquit
[06:57] <caglar_> Yggdrassil: Im sure the standard gnome calc wont do that
[06:58] <healot> oh
[06:58] <ml--> !xampp
[06:58] <ubotu> I guess xampp is an easy to install Apache distribution containing MySQL, PHP and Perl. XAMPP is really very easy to install and to use - just download, extract and start. Get it at http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[06:58] <healot> he did use K7!
[06:58] <bisquit> healot: Lol, what's the command though, I forgot what it was
[06:58] <bisquit> healot: like grep | direct?
[06:58] <healot> never saw that coming...
[06:58] <Yggdrassil> caglar_, try to set the view to scientific
[06:58] <healot> bisquit, cat file | grep "string"
[06:58] <duelboot> solid_liq:  I didn't have a question for me...I have an dual core, but not 64 bit
[06:58] <healot> K8 for AMD 64
[06:58] <Storkme> what's the difference between k8 and k7?
[06:58] <ml--> !lamp
[06:58] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:58] <ajamuk> alguien habla espaol?
[06:59] <duelboot> solid_liq:  I used smp with Mandr***, but I'm okay with ubuntu
[06:59] <healot> the processor itself, the instructions set, Storkme ?
[06:59] <Storkme> this damned k7 kernel wont work
[06:59] <Storkme> maybe i broke my 2nd cpu
[06:59] <healot> AMD 64 should use K8-smp kernel, Storkme
[07:00] <healot> good luck dueling
[07:00] <Storkme> AMD 64 isn't exactly stable as of yet
[07:00] <healot> sure
[07:00] <swab79> I have a DAC960 SCSI controler, managed to get RAID 5 working, however I can't see any device for the SCSI tape drive, and I have no /proc/scsi folder.  Any ideas?
[07:00] <tRSS> Anyone knows where I can find the OS X like dock for kubuntu?
[07:00] <healot> nothing is
[07:00] <Storkme> 32 is a lot more so
[07:00] <Jhair> h0nus: does /usr/lib/libssl.so exist? if not install libssl-dev
[07:00] <Storkme> i can't play quake4 on 64
[07:00] <h0nus> ty!
[07:01] <healot> Storkme, you can if you recompile...
[07:01] <Yggdrassil> swab79, you might be missing the modules for the controller (drivers)... or they might be there but not being initialized during  boot
[07:01] <h0nus> i just don't know the names of the packages i need o_0
[07:01] <healot> h0nus, waht's the app?
[07:01] <Storkme> healot, recompile what?
[07:01] <h0nus> hydra
[07:02] <healot> h0nus, a good search starts at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:02] <Yggdrassil> I'm off.
[07:02] <healot> Storkme, the CPU itself, or the source code? guess :)
[07:02] <h0nus> healot, ty
[07:02] <scandian> who can say me a beautifull game to download with synaptic
[07:03] <healot> hum
[07:03] <healot> how about "powermanga" :)
[07:03] <trappist> scandian: frozen-bubble
[07:03] <tRSS> Anyone knows where I can find the OS X like dock for kubuntu?
[07:03] <scandian> ok thanks
[07:03] <healot> oldschool style space shooter or maybe "tuxracer"?
[07:03] <Steve^> What's a good CD/DVD burning program?
[07:03] <Storkme> healot, the source code for what?
[07:03] <trappist> oh yeah tuxracer
[07:03] <me2win> /quit
[07:04] <swab79> sorry, i got cut off... I had to load DAC960 to get the array to work, could there be more modules/drivers i need?
[07:04] <healot> Storkme, guess?
[07:04] <h0nus> Jhair, now it says "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpq"
[07:04] <Storkme> whatever
[07:04] <sfar> what does "-9" do in the kill-command?
[07:05] <danf_1979> man man man man
[07:05] <idefix__> someone I know says perpetuum mobile's aren't possible
[07:05] <idefix__> I have designed one
[07:06] <Steve^> noone can suggest some cd burning software?
[07:06] <h0nus> healot, where on packages.ubuntu.com would i find security packages?
[07:06] <nickrud> Steve^, I've had some success with k3b
[07:06] <h0nus> i'm looking specifically for libssh and sapr3
[07:07] <Steve^> nickrud, I think that's what I used with suse, but i'm trying to avoid using kde stuff in gnome
[07:07] <idefix__> do you guys think I'm crazy? is it really impossible to design a PM ?
[07:07] <healot> h0nus, the packages lists has a security updates list....
[07:07] <scandian> there is a billard game where i can play alone??
[07:07] <samurai22> Trying to get Japanese SCIM to work on breezy
[07:07] <nickrud> Steve^, I mentioned the one I had the best success with ; gnomebaker & gravman work ok
[07:08] <healot> samurai, use uim instead...
[07:08] <h0nus> healot, i think i'm missing it?
[07:08] <samurai22> I have already compiled the latest from the debian source (gets rid of segfault)
[07:08] <healot> install anthy,uim-gapplet and uim, load the gapplet, bam
[07:09] <irad> how does the xvid/divx codec for kubuntu package named??
[07:09] <nickrud> scandian, apt-cache search billiards shows three
[07:09] <samurai22> healot, what is the difference between uim and scim?
[07:09] <LadyNikon> !mozilla1.5
[07:09] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, LadyNikon
[07:09] <LadyNikon> hmm
[07:10] <healot> (u) and (sc)
[07:10] <LadyNikon> !mozilla
[07:10] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, LadyNikon
[07:10] <sfar> ubotu, tell LadyNikon about firefox1.5
[07:10] <LadyNikon> dang
[07:10] <healot> scim has wrapper to most IM
[07:10] <LadyNikon> sfar: thanks
[07:10] <irad> anyone?
[07:10] <bisquit> Ermm.. I followed the ATI Binary Wiki, and well when I start a 3d app, (I have Xorg) it says :: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display
[07:10] <purple^haze> whats a good dvd simulator program for .iso and .bin/cue files?
[07:10] <samurai22> (sc) understood
[07:11] <anabelen> hola
[07:11] <anabelen> hola
[07:11] <LadyNikon> hi
[07:12] <healot> samurai22, for GNOME use, uim is more lightweight, and there is a a gapplet to activate uim for any GNOME application
[07:12] <irad> how does the xvid/divx codec package is named?
[07:12] <anabelen> hello
[07:13] <samurai22> healot, can you use both at the same time or are they m.exclusive?
[07:13] <gfxstyler> hi
[07:13] <purple^haze> whats a good dvd simulator program for .iso and .bin/cue files?
[07:13] <anabelen> hi
[07:13] <gfxstyler> how can i change the hostname?
[07:13] <healot> per application... just like Microsoft Japanese IME
[07:13] <gfxstyler> i tried "dpkg-reconfigure hostname" but its not working ... so i wonder how to do that?
[07:13] <haluk> hello everyone i m a new linux user and i want to install java runtime edition so i downloaded it but i can't install. How can i do?
[07:13] <anabelen> is talh spanis
[07:14] <anabelen> ???
[07:14] <gfxstyler> i edited /etc/hostname.conf but now sudo doesn't work anymore ... something with "getHostByName()"
[07:14] <nickrud> gfxstyler, edit /etc/hostname , /etc/hosts , and hostname <name>
[07:14] <gfxstyler> nickrud: thanks
[07:14] <nickrud> gfxstyler, you're gonna need to reboot into recovery mode, and edit /etc/hosts & /etc/hostname
[07:14] <miranda> quieres salir com migo?
[07:14] <samurai22> healot, will try uim.  thanks for your help
[07:14] <nickrud> !es
[07:14] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:15] <gfxstyler> nickrud: okay, im trying it, thank you :)
[07:15] <yaff> hi
[07:15] <ssanchez> hola
[07:15] <yaff> I just got a bug while trying to launch space-orbit
[07:15] <yaff> under dapper
[07:15] <yaff> a problem with freeglut or something
[07:16] <healot> samurai22, in synapctic list you should see "anthy", "uim" and "uim gapplet"
[07:16] <yaff> I can't play :(
[07:16] <anabelen> hola
[07:16] <nickrud> yaff, try #ubuntu+1 , that's the dapper channel
[07:16] <anabelen> de donde eres ??
[07:16] <yaff> nickrud, thanks
[07:16] <Seveas> anabelen, english please
[07:16] <Seveas> !es
[07:16] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:16] <healot> dapper is in testing version and bleh
[07:18] <anabelen> hello
[07:18] <samurai22> healot, do you mean uim-applet-gnome
[07:18] <chris> is there away to reinstall ubuntu with out the cd
[07:18] <ssanchez> hola
[07:18] <ssanchez> k tal
[07:18] <healot> yup
[07:18] <purple^haze> whats a good dvd simulator program for .iso and .bin/cue files?
[07:18] <healot> gapplet
[07:19] <healot> just load the applet on GNOME taskbar
[07:19] <healot> and get going...
[07:19] <ubuntugeek> !forums
[07:19] <anabelen> bien y tu ?
[07:19] <purple^haze> !virtual dvd
[07:19] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, purple^haze
[07:19] <healot> purple^haze, you can mount the ISO file... but however you need to strip your bin file into ISO format first...
[07:20] <purple^haze> healot,  thank u
[07:20] <anabelen> de donde eres ??
[07:20] <chris> is there away to reinstall ubuntu with out the c
[07:20] <purple^haze> healot,  what about .img files?
[07:20] <healot> purple^haze, need to strip taht too
[07:20] <ernz> Helllo again people
[07:21] <ernz> How can I play RealMedia files on Ubuntu?
[07:21] <healot> only ISO9660 image is natively supported
[07:21] <anabelen> de donde eres
[07:22] <awelynant> I accidentaly removed GAIM from the gnome panel, and now the notification icon shows up in a little standalone window
[07:22] <healot> anabelen, hablen anglais? thanks :)
[07:22] <awelynant> how do I get it back?
[07:22] <Frogzoo> awelynant: I believe it's an option in the settings somewhere
[07:23] <awelynant> Frogzoo:any idea which settings?
[07:23] <ernz> Anyone got a suggestion on how to play RealMedia files on Ubuntu?
[07:23] <Frogzoo> awelynant: no, sorry
[07:23] <anabelen> hello
[07:23] <healot> "Notification Message"
[07:23] <anabelen> hello
[07:23] <anabelen> hello
[07:23] <healot> sorry "Message Notification"
[07:24] <ernz> Awelynany, try a right click on the panel, add an item and then try a search
[07:24] <healot> under Plugin...
[07:24] <LadyNikon> anabelen: you dont have to repeat yourself.
[07:24] <healot> anabelen, any question that you're seeking answer for?
[07:24] <mattwestm> how do I get a list of all users?
[07:25] <anabelen> is talk spanis
[07:25] <Frogzoo> awelynant: healot has a good point - do you still have "notification area" in the task bar? if not, you'll have to add it back in
[07:25] <Rubin> mattwestm: users are defined in /etc/passwd
[07:26] <ernz> :( Someone help?
[07:26] <healot> non, me no hablen espanol... anabelen
[07:26] <nick|here> ernz, i heard realplayer has a version for linux
[07:26] <anabelen> my no inglis
[07:26] <ernz> Only RPM and BIN installers Nick|Here
[07:27] <healot> ernz, you sucked for media :)
[07:27] <LadyNikon> !es
[07:27] <awelynant> Frogzoo: I added a new notification area, no joy.  It still appears in its own little window
[07:27] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:27] <anabelen> my shou shoy talk inglys
[07:27] <healot> ernz, you can "alien" RPM packages
[07:27] <samurai22> healot, installed the packages, but where do I find them in the menu?
[07:27] <Frogzoo> awelynant: now look for a gaim option to minimize to taskbar
[07:27] <ernz> I tried using alien healot, and it said it was an unrecognised command
[07:27] <LadyNikon> heh Frogzoo i remember the first time i did that
[07:28] <LadyNikon> i was like.. woah it didnt just close our.
[07:28] <LadyNikon> out*
[07:28] <oropeza> hi
[07:28] <healot> samurai22, add the gapplet by clicking right on GNOME panels
[07:28] <oropeza> Hola
[07:28] <[FR33_B33R] > umm... hey all.... anyone got JACK working?
[07:28] <healot> "Add to Panel" -> find the UIM gapplet...
[07:28] <LadyNikon> wow
[07:28] <LadyNikon> there are alot of spanish users
[07:28] <anabelen> you mi comprend
[07:29] <healot> ernz, "alien" isn;'t isntalled by default, "apt-get" it :)
[07:29] <babo> Can anyone have another look here ... pls ... ? http://pastebin.com/631103
[07:29] <oropeza> hola alguien que hable espaol
[07:29] <LadyNikon> anabelen: por favor usen #ubuntu-es
[07:29] <oropeza> :D
[07:29] <healot> jo no comprende tu :)
[07:29] <ubuntu> hi
[07:30] <ubuntu> i need help
[07:30] <ernz> healot, I am noob here - I dont even know what sudo is
[07:30] <oropeza> un saludo a todos desde Mxico
[07:30] <sfar> hi ubuntu.. type /nick yournickname to change nick :)
[07:30] <ernz> I think apt-get is some sort of online installer interface
[07:30] <LadyNikon> oropeza: por favor usen #ubuntu-es
[07:30] <minif> i need help
[07:30] <sfar> just ask
[07:30] <healot> ernz, a great journey start with a goal :)
[07:30] <minif> u know the GRUB thing?
[07:30] <sfar> yes
[07:30] <ernz> Yea....?
[07:30] <ernz> :S
[07:30] <healot> the bootloader
[07:31] <minif> i need to get it back to the windows thing
[07:31] <anabelen> how are you ?
[07:31] <healot> minif, load your Window XP/2000 CD
[07:31] <minif> cos im wanting to safely uninstall linux (dualboot system)
[07:31] <s_g> Alrighty, I need some help from a hardware geek.
[07:31] <minif> cant find CD
[07:31] <healot> run it in Recovery... then run "fixboot" and "fixmbr"
[07:31] <jjesse> i have a quesiont on eveloution and excahnge
[07:31] <ernz> Hey Healot, I am now wanting the app described HERE: wget http://beerorkid.com/automatix/automatix_5.4-2_i386.deb - But it can't resolve this DEB package, it says 404 Cant be found
[07:32] <[FR33_B33R] > hahha... help with uninstallation but yea... installing XP should clear hte MBR right?
[07:32] <jjesse> when I try to setup Evelotuion to connect to MS Exchange it asks for a username and no matter what I put into it i cannot click on next
[07:32] <ernz> http://ubuntuos.com/2006/02/automatix-easy-installation.html <<- Soz, thats the URL
[07:32] <minif> run which in recovery?
[07:32] <healot> ernz, the file is just not there :)
[07:32] <s_g> I'm just debating on whether or not I should buy this Pentium D 920/945P-A combo for $220 from Fry's, or should I wait until the price drops in late April.
[07:32] <deefzi> does anyone know what the "Turn On your tags" on dc-hubs mean? i'm using valknut
[07:32] <ernz> Where can I get a big list of jazz to install?
[07:32] <samurai22> healot, got it, but gedit crashes now
[07:32] <s_g> Anyone got any suggestions?
[07:32] <ernz> Like automatix
[07:32] <minif> ?
[07:33] <Frogzoo> s_g: get an A64
[07:33] <healot> samurai22, did you run the uim setup yet?
[07:33] <minif> so how do i go about it?
[07:33] <[FR33_B33R] > umm... hey all.... anyone got JACK working?
[07:33] <Steve^> no, he's a lazy bastard
[07:33] <minif> ????
[07:33] <s_g> Frogzoo: Yeah, it's cheaper and completely kills the 920 at gaming, but the whole dual core thing has got my panties in a bunch.
[07:33] <healot> samurai22, "uim"+tab+tab :)
[07:34] <Frogzoo> s_g: how so? dual core is very mature tech?
[07:34] <healot> minif, load the CD, you'll find out
[07:34] <healot> Microsoft made things easier just for you :)
[07:34] <samurai22> trying it out
[07:34] <Jaquelin> hello
[07:34] <minif> i really need to get my dual boot system back to normal, i was thinkin of reinstallin ubuntu as fat 32 but it has conflicts......and i cant find my win xp cd
[07:34] <s_g> Frogzoo: Games aren't multithreaded (yet). So a good A64 does ~50fps more.
[07:34] <pulgoki> can anyone tell me, when you have wrappers setup in hosts.allow and hosts.deny, when there is a scan for the port that is open from an unauthorized address, is it just dropped or will it reply as existing but closed?
[07:35] <minif> ...
[07:35] <healot> samurai22, if you actually find the setup for uim, find the "lazy loading" feature, check it and reload the gapplet
[07:35] <minif> wot to do.....
[07:36] <healot> minif, then nothing, Windows XP CD is the best way to recover your window nt bootloader and mbr
[07:36] <s_g> Frogzoo: In the long run, which would last me longer? A single core 3700+, or a D 920?
[07:36] <snake-holiday> hi anyone able to help me i cant get my pc to connect to the internet
[07:36] <minif> is there neway i cud do it thru the ubuntu cd???
[07:36] <Kyn> What is your setup like, snake?
[07:36] <healot> damn, what's the name of that BootCD that can recover Windows XP password/bootloader?
[07:37] <gnomefreak> healot: xp cd can do it or 98 boot disk
[07:37] <Kyn> BartPE?
[07:37] <healot> 98 doesn't recover the bootloader, gnomefreak
[07:37] <Frogzoo> s_g: maybe neither - just wait till M2 is released, sometime real soon now
[07:37] <snake-holiday> well ummm i real new to this but everything else works but no ip
[07:37] <healot> it only replaces the mbr bootcode
[07:37] <ernz> YEEEEEEHAAA!!! I done it
[07:38] <swab79> I have a DAC960 scsi controller.  got RAID 5 working, but can't see a device for my tape drive (HP C1537A).  I have the DAC960 module loaded, any ideas?
[07:38] <ernz> Man - I am smart.
[07:38] <ernz> :P
[07:38] <snake-holiday> it is the lastest one on the site
[07:38] <healot> done what, ernz ?
[07:38] <samurai22> healot, palyed with the config but still crashes - should I try and remove all scim-related packages
[07:38] <Kyn> Snake: Are you connecting via a router? a modem?
[07:38] <healot> yeah
[07:38] <healot> yeah
[07:38] <gnomefreak> healot: it can erase the mbr of grub and puts win bootloader on it but it wont boot linux
[07:38] <snake-holiday> pc to switch to modem
[07:39] <s_g> Frogzoo: That's a few months away, I'm not a patient man. The thing is, 939 will be phased out by M2, but 775 is still going to be used by Intel.
[07:39] <healot> SCim wraps uim too, samurai22, yeah happened to me too
[07:39] <healot> gnomefreak, I just told you
[07:39] <Kyn> Snake: So, you have a DSL modem -> 10/100 switch -> 2 computers?
[07:39] <Kyn> Snake: That can't work.
[07:39] <Frogzoo> s_g: when you realise you can't run pacifica, you'll kick yourself if you've just upgraded...
[07:39] <healot> but the NTloader bootlist cannot be recovered with Windows 98 CD
[07:40] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can i add a program ,to always run ,with cron?
[07:40] <snake-holiday> umm (mmkay) uptil i changed over it was 5 pc to swich to cable modem
[07:40] <ssanchez> como te llamas
[07:40] <gnomefreak> psssst ntbootloader is garbage anyway
[07:40] <hatake_k1kashi> snake-holiday: modem will only give out the connection to one computer, not two. You need a router or something as the gateway
[07:40] <s_g> Frogzoo: Heh, well, I'm tempted to buy this. I haven't been into games for a long time, but this year has a lot of interesting stuff coming out.
[07:40] <Frogzoo> DjDarkman: you mean have a program always running, like a daemon?
[07:41] <healot> gnomefreak, it is not... you just don't know how to empower it :)
[07:41] <DjDarkman> yes
[07:41] <Kyn> snake: I would suspect that it isn't a switch then. It's probably a router. What is it, specifically?
[07:41] <Kyn> snake: gimme a model number.
[07:41] <snake-holiday> (mmkay) it is a surfboard sb4100
[07:41] <Frogzoo> s_g: if gaming is even 30% of the purchasing decision, go the AMD
[07:41] <DjDarkman> yes Frogzoo
[07:41] <Kyn> snake: That sounds like the name of your dsl modem.
[07:41] <s_g> Frogzoo: What about DDR2? AMD doesn't support it until M2.
[07:42] <Frogzoo> s_g: plus AMDs burn quite a few less watts, so work out even cheaper long term
[07:42] <snake-holiday> yes and it can support up to 32 pcs
[07:42] <s_g> Hmm.
[07:42] <Kyn> snake: So, there's no switch?
[07:42] <Frogzoo> s_g: current a64 doesn't need ddr2 - plain ddr is quite sufficient to keep the pipes full - it's only intel that have a memory b/w problem
[07:42] <hatake_kakashi> snake-holiday: are you sure its a modem? or is it a modem/router
[07:42] <snake-holiday> umm (mmkay) can i Private Message you
[07:43] <samurai22> healot, still crashes but only when I click on the gedit window now (instead of directly upon startup)
[07:43] <s_g> Frogzoo: How much do you think I should spend, then? And which processor? I've been thinking about the 3700+.
[07:44] <LathropWells> buy the best video card you can afford and build the system around it? - wide grin
[07:44] <healot> I don't have DDR2 mobo/RAM, does it have any significant over the DDR RAM?
[07:44] <Kyn> snake: That's a router/switch cablemodem, it looks like.
[07:45] <Frogzoo> s_g: whichever model currently overclocks like a freak :D
[07:45] <Kyn> If you have it configured to give out DHCP leases, you shouldn't have any problems at all configuring your ubuntu machine to DHCP (default).
[07:45] <ernz> OK, this is cool
[07:46] <ernz> Something called Automatix
[07:46] <ernz> Installs LOADS of wicked freebees
[07:46] <s_g> Frogzoo: Heh, sounds good to me. I personally don't care about graphics, so as long as I'm able to play a game, even at the lowest settings, I'm happy. So with that in mind, how long would a 3700+ last me? A year? Year and a half?
[07:46] <hatake_kakashi> !tell ernz about automatix
[07:46] <Kyn> snake: Are there link lights on that thing? Is the link light on for the ubuntu box?
[07:46] <Frogzoo> DjDarkman: it's probably not a great idea to rely on cron to keep your daemon running
[07:46] <snake-holiday> yes and yes
[07:46] <DjDarkman> Frogzoo: but i don`t have root access
[07:47] <ernz> Thanks hatake_kakashi - Smash my dreams, what would you suggest as an alternative?
[07:47] <ernz> WINDOWS!?
[07:47] <Frogzoo> s_g: are you planning on dual vid cards any time soon? SLI/Crossfire?
[07:47] <hatake_kakashi> ernz: easyubuntu
[07:47] <ernz> WTF is easybuntu?
[07:47] <samurai22> hatake, do you do Japanese Input on your system/
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> or learn how to install the stuff yourself.
[07:47] <hatake_kakashi> samurai22: no, but I ought to :)
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:47] <ernz> !tell me about easyubuntu
[07:47] <Frogzoo> DjDarkman: well cron won't help with that
[07:48] <ernz> !tell ernz about easyubuntu
[07:48] <ErZo> What's the "default" root password that the installer sets?
[07:48] <ErZo> Trying to help a friend.
[07:48] <hatake_kakashi> !tell ernz about easyubuntu
[07:48] <gnomefreak> ErZo: your user password
[07:48] <snake-holiday> any ideas then Kyn cos im lost with it
[07:48] <Frogzoo> !sudo
[07:48] <ubotu> somebody said sudo was a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:48] <DjDarkman> then Frogzoo how do i add a service without root?
[07:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I just installed the fglrx driver with the ATI Website Binary, following the wiki's instructions, but now my xserver wont start, the screen just goes black
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> Faq #1
[07:48] <hatake_kakashi> ErZo: use sudo,
[07:48] <healot>  EBCD ? Emergency Boot CD
[07:49] <ErZo> gnomefreak: hatake_kakashi If I don't want her to use sudo then? I want her to be able to be root <.<
[07:49] <ErZo> oops.
[07:49] <ErZo> gnomefreak: She said she tried with her own password, it wasn't it.
[07:49] <gnomefreak> Biscuitian_Warhe: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (make sure the driver and card are correct)
[07:49] <Frogzoo> DjDarkman: you run it on a high > 1023 port
[07:49] <raic_> any hints as to how to get recording to work again in dapper?
[07:49] <gnomefreak> ErZo: the person that installed it its their password
[07:49] <ernz> hatake_kakashi - Nothing
[07:49] <healot> that's the bootcd that I usually use for Windows XP recovery
[07:50] <Biscuitian_Warhe> gnomefreak: I did, I selected fglrx and picked the right card
[07:50] <gnomefreak> raic_: dapper is now found at #ubuntu+1
[07:50] <hatake_kakashi> ErZo: it is not recommended to login as root, you can do it fairly easily with tty but with xwindows, you need to edit files, etc
[07:50] <raic_> thanks
[07:50] <techrush> !restricted
[07:50] <ubotu> methinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:50] <s_g> Frogzoo: Sorry, phone call.  I used to get by on Half-Life at 15fps.
[07:50] <ErZo> hatake_kakashi: Do you need to type in a password for sudo?
[07:50] <hatake_kakashi> ernz: you should be able to see it previously or something
[07:51] <hatake_kakashi> ErZo: yes and its your user password that you have set
[07:51] <healot> "sudo" for ubuntu, yay!
[07:51] <s_g> Frogzoo: As long as I can get at least 30fps, I'm happy. But I expect to get much more than that for current-gen games.
[07:51] <gnomefreak> ErZo: sudo -i  for a root terminal
[07:51] <samurai22> healot, I have the stack trace of the crash - seems to be coming from uim
[07:52] <hatake_kakashi> gnomefreak: that's one of the methods ;)
[07:52] <snake-holiday> (mmkay) anyone able to solve my problem ubuntu ip wont solve
[07:52] <gnomefreak> hatake_kakashi: one of many
[07:52] <hatake_kakashi> yup
[07:52] <Frogzoo> s_g: what I don't understand is the urgency - if you wait a couple of months, you can invest in an M2, with pacifica - new mobo/ram & then in 18 months when you upgrade, you reuse the mobo - just upgrade the cpu
[07:52] <healot> removed "scim" yet?
[07:53] <samurai22> thought so, how to make sure?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> if thersim waiting for the  next gen of cpus and stuff to get out - befor i upgrade. :P
[07:53] <Frustrum> For some reason I can't download CD images with BitTorrent.  Here's my error:  <<"dapper-install-i386.iso": Aborting the torrent as it was rejected by the tracker while not connected to any peers.  Message from the tracker: Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker.>>  Am I being dumb, or is something broken?
[07:53] <Frogzoo> Frustrum: the tracker doesn't like you
[07:53] <s_g> Frogzoo: There's no real urgency, I just have a lack of patience.
[07:53] <healot> remove all scim/scim related files?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> Frogzoo: try a non torrent mirror
[07:54] <I_am_the_cure> question,  I need 2 install wine * it says its package is not there even after update... How do I get it installed now?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> !wine
[07:54] <samurai22> healot, how to make sure it's all deleted?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell I_am_the_cure  about wine
[07:55] <healot> because basically scim will wrap all the IME installed
[07:55] <healot> scim is heavy to load...
[07:55] <healot> Frustrum, broken/outdated torrent
[07:55] <Frogzoo> s_g: what I'm trying to say is, I can't advise you any better than to say wait a couple of months, I'd be lying to say any different
[07:55] <I_am_the_cure> I also need to know how 2 open sh files using gui..
[07:55] <I_am_the_cure> I have alien & deb package handling packages installed but dont think it works
[07:56] <healot> when tehre is no scim/scim related packages installed, dude use SYnaptic
[07:56] <Frogzoo> s_g: do you understand what pacifica will do?
[07:56] <s_g> Frogzoo: The other thing is I don't want to pay that much; M2 will be very expensive at launch. I'm looking to do around $250 for the mobo and CPU.
[07:56] <s_g> Frogzoo: Not really.
[07:57] <Frogzoo> s_g: pacifica removes the emulation layer from VMs like vmware and qemu - you'll be able to run multiple virtual machines at full CPU speed - it will be totally awesome
[07:58] <espresso> Frogzoo: I'm a HUGE fan of VMware... but my virtual machine doesn't run as fast as the host OS.
[07:58] <ernz> hatake_kakashi - I just looked it up, pretty much the same thing
[07:58] <I_am_the_cure> lag!1
[07:58] <samurai22> I'll try again from the beginning some other time
[07:58] <samurai22> thanks for your help
[07:58] <s_g> Frogzoo: Would that apply to Wine as well?
[07:58] <espresso> then again, I don't have a whole lot of ram
[07:58] <hatake_kakashi> ernz: wouldn't be surprised
[07:58] <Frogzoo> espresso: of course not - but the new cpus will change all that
[07:58] <I_am_the_cure> I got an 8 meg graphics card, why do  Istill lag with 512 meg ram on a 500 mhz pc.. isnt linux supposed too be more effitient
[07:58] <I_am_the_cure> ??
[07:58] <ernz> hatake_kakashi - Just looks more official, with less apps and more support.
[07:59] <espresso> Frogzoo: right... 64-bit architecture does amazing stuff as far as making processes lightning fast
[07:59] <Darky> hi all
[07:59] <Frogzoo> s_g: for wine there will be zero improvement, as it's not an emulator
[07:59] <LathropWells> and safer from buffer overflows
[07:59] <s_g> Frogzoo: I figured as much, one can only hope.
[07:59] <espresso> I have a windows VM and an ubuntu VM running on a SuSE host
[07:59] <Darky> Can any one give me A P2P Softweres?
[07:59] <I_am_the_cure> I cant open debain binarys!!
[07:59] <espresso> Darky: are you running bittorrent?
[08:00] <Darky> yap
[08:00] <Frogzoo> espresso: the point with pacifica & intel's hardware vm implementation is that vms will run at full cpu speed
[08:00] <I_am_the_cure> running breezy badger not debain!
[08:00] <knanand> How can I play MP3 files????
[08:00] <espresso> Darky: look up azureus
[08:00] <hatake_kakashi> ernz: either way, I'm sure you would benefit with more support rather than being on your own
[08:00] <Darky> i know,,
[08:00] <hatake_kakashi> !tell knanand about mp3
[08:00] <s_g> Well, I don't need VMs. So what would the point be?
[08:00] <Darky> but something else?
[08:00] <espresso> Frogzoo: that may be the case... but a computer is truly as fast as its slowest bus speed, as that is where bottlenecking occurs for mutliple processes
[08:01] <h0nus> brb
[08:01] <Frogzoo> s_g: I'd say go the 3700 then - tbh - my main box is a 3200 and I've been extremely happy with it, but obviously I'm now seriously considering the M2 rather than an upgrade
[08:01] <espresso> you can have a 4.2GHz 64-bit processor loaded to the gills with ram, but if the bus speed is only 266MHz, then you're gonna be slow
[08:02] <ernz> hatake_kakashi - Are you volunteering?? :p
[08:02] <CNAP> does anybody know where i can find information on ICS with ubuntu?
[08:02] <hatake_kakashi> ernz: no
[08:02] <ernz> :(
[08:02] <I_am_the_cure> I want too get wine package not some BS demain binary I cannot open debain binarys!!
[08:02] <I_am_the_cure> debain*
[08:02] <espresso> granted, your compy might not be freezing up as much with that much proc speed, it will still slow down some
[08:03] <hatake_kakashi> ernz: I'm not on any of the projects :) I'm just a normal user on here
[08:03] <I_am_the_cure> I need wine for breezy badger NOT debain!
[08:03] <espresso> Darky: what more could you want?
[08:03] <CryoTox> Can anyone tell me the terminal command to create a new user?
[08:03] <Frogzoo> espresso: put it this way - with pacifica, you'll be able to run ubuntu in a vm & it will run as fast as ubuntu does on a real cpu
[08:03] <espresso> Frogzoo: googling pacifica... never heard of it
[08:03] <hatake_kakashi> CryoTox: sudo adduser
[08:03] <CryoTox> thanks
[08:03] <Darky> DC++?
[08:04] <I_am_the_cure> cryox will that add a root access for a gui username also?
[08:04] <LeeJunFan> anyone know why the mirrors lack the plaintext Packages files?
[08:04] <I_am_the_cure> or at least a super user permissions for my current login?
[08:04] <espresso> Frogzoo: Google has let me down :(... what is pacifica?>
[08:04] <CNAP> can anyone point me in the direction of a howto about sharing an internet connection
[08:05] <healot> LeeJunFan, if you use Firefox with GZ plugin, you will see the list uncompressed on the fly
[08:05] <trappist> CNAP: I can do one better - I can point you to a script
[08:05] <espresso> CNAP: I know this is a lame response but... buy a router
[08:05] <I_am_the_cure> hatake will aduse in sudo allow me 2 login as superuser in gui?? I need some kinda login decides plain user..
[08:05] <LeeJunFan> healot: yeah, but problem is that debmirror needs the unzipped version of the file.
[08:05] <h0nus> is there a difference between libss2 and ssh2?
[08:05] <trappist> CNAP: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/scripts/ics
[08:05] <nickrud> I_am_the_cure, why in the world would you want a root gui login?
[08:05] <healot> are you trying to setup your own?
[08:06] <I_am_the_cure> because I cannot install in gui
[08:06] <espresso> trappist: couldn't that be done via iptables using a FORWARD chain?
[08:06] <trappist> espresso: not using the FORWARD chain, no.
[08:06] <Sexy_Girl19> hello
[08:06] <I_am_the_cure> there is no gui version of sudo or su
[08:06] <flonesaw_> Hi all
[08:06] <caglar_> can I change the version number of a already installed debian package?
[08:06] <Sexy_Girl19> i hava a problem
[08:06] <nickrud> I_am_the_cure, gksudo
[08:06] <gnomefreak> I_am_the_cure: gksudo
[08:06] <trappist> espresso: it has to be ALLOWED in the FORWARD chain, but it's not made to happen there.
[08:06] <hatake_kakashi> I_am_the_cure: you can run it under terminal or run the program as
[08:06] <Sexy_Girl19> please help me
[08:06] <espresso> eh, worth a thought
[08:06] <CNAP> i did buy a router, however i won't receive it for a couple of days. i need a band-aid for the time being
[08:06] <Sexy_Girl19><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:07] <gnomefreak> I_am_the_cure: when you open synaptic it prompts you for password you the user password that prompt is gksudo
[08:07] <trappist> CNAP: see my script
[08:07] <healot> trappist, you can simplify iptables by using GUI tools like shorewall or firestart
[08:07] <healot> er
[08:07] <I_am_the_cure> that doesnt give me access 2 click on a file & run & install it under root command
[08:07] <Sexy_Girl19> i have a problem with ubuntu help please<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:07] <trappist> healot: yeah...
[08:07] <s_g> Frogzoo: Alright, thanks a ton! You've officially talked me out of the D 920.
[08:07] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[08:07] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[08:07] <trappist> healot: or you can just run my script, if all you need is ad-hoc connection sharing ;)
[08:07] <gnomefreak> I_am_the_cure: gksudo natilus
[08:07] <I_am_the_cure> I want too be able 2 open a file in gui under root login or su login so I dont have 2 use gksudo
[08:07] <healot> don't make life hard...
[08:07] <nickrud> gnomefreak, ew.
[08:08] <healot> yeah a good script is welcome too :)
[08:08] <gnomefreak> nickrud: i agree
[08:08] <trappist> healot: see the link I gave CNAP
[08:08] <espresso> has anyone here used amavisd-new before?
[08:08] <CNAP> trappist: thanks for the script...now i just need to figure out how to run it ;-)
[08:08] <gnomefreak> I_am_the_cure: why would you want to opena  file as root?
[08:08] <trappist> CNAP: wget it or copy it into a text file, chmod +x the text file, and run it with sudo
[08:09] <healot> but the problem with script...it may have been built for that scripter's box
[08:09] <healot> it may not work outside the box
[08:09] <espresso> I'm trying to set up an email server, and this ubuntu forum said I had to install it... before I blindly install some widget that I discovered on a forum, I thought I'd see if a live warm body had any experience
[08:09] <trappist> healot: no, I made it very portable
[08:09] <trappist> healot: it detects your default gateway device and goes from there
[08:09] <flonesaw_> Does Ubuntu have issues with 2 sound cards?
[08:09] <healot> great job
[08:10] <healot> because I am a person who involved in deployment
[08:10] <I_am_the_cure> Duh too install it
[08:10] <nickrud> espresso, there's a pretty good postfix setup on the wiki
[08:10] <caglar_> anyone managed running opera with mplayer?
[08:10] <healot> kinda frustrating if your script cannot be deployed easily
[08:10] <espresso> it's not this, is it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40047
[08:10] <caglar_> is there anyone who can run opera with the mplayer plugin?
[08:10] <espresso> ?
[08:11] <Frogzoo> s_g: cool & gl
[08:11] <I_am_the_cure> In gui you have plain user access you cannot install cedega without root access it goes in /usr/bin acccess denied & also errors occur..
[08:11] <trappist> healot: it could - I could give you a one-liner to download it and run it, but I feel queasy about telling people to wget and pipe to sudo
[08:11] <I_am_the_cure> ok I did gksudo natilus & nothing happened
[08:11] <nickrud> I_am_the_cure, the double click method of install is windows centric, use a terminal & the recommended install techniques. Even cedga has a howto
[08:11] <Biscuitian_Warhe> What are the differences between the ATI.com driver and the repo driver?
[08:12] <I_am_the_cure> terminal f's everything up. I cant use apt-get itwont let me just run file itself
[08:12] <healot> it's the latest version...
[08:12] <trappist> Biscuitian_Warhe: the ati.com driver will give you 3d acceleration and other benefits
[08:12] <I_am_the_cure> I have 2 use install & it f's up
[08:12] <healot> ATI's requires recompilation of the driver etc...
[08:12] <Zoroaster> I will setup a samba server for use as a file server at a remote office for about 10 usersI that I  go,t my question is, does it really need to be a command line server?  how much does GNOME really bring down the server
[08:12] <tonyyarusso> Biscuitian_Warhe: There is a packaged version from Seveas.
[08:12] <I_am_the_cure> ubuntu is user friendly so it claims, so far not friendly at all
[08:13] <AnObfuscator> Ubuntu is user friendly *for a linux distro*
[08:13] <AnObfuscator> ;)
[08:13] <trappist> I_am_the_cure: do you have a question?
[08:13] <Biscuitian_Warhe> tonyyarusso: From seveas, how well does it work, I did the wiki and I ca't get the gui to load
[08:13] <ragu> how to find what network ports are open in linux?
[08:13] <void^> I_am_the_cure: trying to play with cedega?
[08:13] <Frogzoo> ragu: lsof -t
[08:13] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I_am_the_cure: What do you have against ubuntu so much?
[08:13] <ragu> thanks
[08:13] <flonesaw_> ASUS A7V mobo w/ ob via8237 audio is being masked by MAudio Delta 44.  Want both audio cards, but only Delta 44 is seen by lspci.
[08:13] <nickrud> I_am_the_cure, I've never installed cedega, but I cannot believe it's that hard. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> Biscuitian_Warhe: I tried them once, and they were fine except for a known bug in fglrx relating to console switching.
[08:13] <h0nus> has anyone downloaded/installed libssh 0.11?
[08:13] <healot> I_am_the_cure, it may not suit all
[08:13] <trappist> nickrud: it is a little hard to install cedega these days
[08:13] <healot> even for newbies
[08:14] <h0nus> i'm lost after "./configure"
[08:14] <healot> because some people expect magic out of using Ubuntu
[08:14] <nickrud> trappist, oh. Well, fix it :)
[08:14] <nickrud> lol
[08:14] <Biscuitian_Warhe> tonyyarusso: What card did you have?
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> Biscuitian_Warhe: X300
[08:14] <Init5> hi folks, I am runing breezy with the default firefox 1.0.7 witch I'd like to upgrade to firefox-1.6, -how do I do that? It's not in the repositories...
[08:14] <Biscuitian_Warhe> nickrud: cedega is all fancy these days *wobbles fingers like a soothsayer
[08:14] <I_am_the_cure> I got the file its n su file
[08:14] <trappist> nickrud: it's not broken - it's the result of deliberate design decisions
[08:14] <Biscuitian_Warhe> tonyyarusso: Nice, that's what card I have, how did the driver do for acceleration
[08:14] <insta`> On a new Ubuntu machine, I'm having problems with alsasink working.  osssink works, but it is the only pipeline that does.  alsamixer recognizes my soundcard, and can change properties.  See http://pastebin.com/631182
[08:15] <wistow> hi folks ubuntu is very nice i use it, good job
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> Init5: I assume you mean 1.5, not 1.6; see the msg from ubotu for a link to instructions.
[08:15] <I_am_the_cure> I CNNOT run debain binarys I REPEAT I cannot run Debain BINARYS!
[08:15] <elsvent> hello could someone help me for this?
[08:15] <elsvent> elsvent@HYC:~/Desktop$ fakeroot X_VERSION=x690 ./ati-driver-installer-8.23.7-i386.run
[08:15] <elsvent> /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: X_VERSION=x690: command not found
[08:15] <nickrud> trappist, ah, thanks.
[08:15] <caglar_> is there anyone who can run opera with the mplayer plugin?
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> Biscuitian_Warhe: Framerates were something like 6,000 /s I think.
[08:15] <insta`> elsvent: just do it as root
[08:15] <healot> elsvent, Variable first
[08:15] <espresso> nickrud: thanks for the tips... I'm setting up postfix now :)
[08:15] <healot> before commands
[08:15] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I_am_the_cure: You dont just "double click" them, you cd to there directory with a terminal and use sudo apt-get install foobar.deb
[08:15] <Init5> tonyyarusso, what msg?
[08:15] <Biscuitian_Warhe> tonyyarusso: Is that good or bad?
[08:15] <I_am_the_cure> omfg u dont listen a sh file does NOT open in gnome
[08:16] <elsvent> ok thanks
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> Biscuitian_Warhe: Was still slow for certain screensavers though.  (It's good.)
[08:16] <I_am_the_cure> I tried just file.sh command not found
[08:16] <healot> "X_VERSION=x690 fakeroot ./ati-driver-installer-8.23.7-i386.run"
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> Init5: Haha, whoops.  One second.
[08:16] <Biscuitian_Warhe> tonyyarusso: Could you play games with it?
[08:16] <Init5> tonyyarusso, tnx man  ;]
[08:16] <I_am_the_cure> the deb file contains a debain binary
[08:16] <I_am_the_cure> I cant run DEBAIN BINARY!
[08:17] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I_am_the_cure: You use sh file.sh, not just file.sh, and if you try double clikc open in GNOME they have to be executable (file permissons)
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> Biscuitian_Warhe: Well, I'm not a heavy gamer really, but it seemed fine.
[08:17] <elsvent> healot, thanks
[08:17] <Biscuitian_Warhe> tonyyarusso: Alrite, it sounds good to me, I was never good with drivers
[08:17] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Haha
[08:17] <jerry__> Hello?
[08:17] <trappist> I_am_the_cure: do you have a question
[08:17] <rafaman> hey
[08:17] <rafaman> this is a lot of users
[08:17] <jerry__> I can't get my updates.  I think the repo's have changed.
[08:18] <rafaman> right now i'm running the live cd on another computer
[08:18] <I_am_the_cure> I been asking question u give me BS I already done & keep teling you I cannto DO!
[08:18] <I_am_the_cure> I have cedega.sh
[08:18] <I_am_the_cure> I try running in terminal command not found
[08:18] <jerry__> I have dapper drake.
[08:18] <void^> I_am_the_cure: did you use ./ ?
[08:18] <frank23> rafaman: yeah considering there were around 1000 people here during the breezy release, there should be many more when dapper is released
[08:18] <I_am_the_cure> I tried using install it does not install properly & will not run
[08:18] <I_am_the_cure> I tried in kde same problems
[08:19] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Hey, since I have a P4 with Hyper Threading, should I install the linux-686 smp kernel instead of the 386 one?
[08:19] <insta`> Biscuitian_Warhe: yep
[08:19] <I_am_the_cure> kde supports sh files but still causes errors & will not play the game I install
[08:19] <I_am_the_cure> yes
[08:19] <Biscuitian_Warhe> isnta`: What would the difference be?
[08:19] <I_am_the_cure> I been told this before
[08:19] <I_am_the_cure> & I keep telling u it says Command not found
[08:19] <void^> oh well..
[08:19] <insta`> Biscuitian_Warhe: the 686 kernel takes advantage of higher-level features in the processor
[08:19] <flonesaw_> Biscuitian -- SMP will not give huge performance boost in all cases w/ hyperthreading.
[08:19] <insta`> Like the abilitity to page memory quicker using MMX and 3dNow! calls
[08:19] <insta`> Which a 386 processor doesn't have.
[08:20] <Biscuitian_Warhe> instal`: oh, ok
[08:20] <frank23> Biscuitian_Warhe: yeah. although by default HT is disabled because it's a security risk.  I don't think it's too hard though
[08:20] <I_am_the_cure> Tell sevas about ppl giving wrong awnsers over & over peeving ppl off
[08:20] <lkd-efs> !tell lkd-efs about attitude
[08:20] <flonesaw_> Biscuitian - Activate via BIOS setting.
[08:20] <Biscuitian_Warhe> flonesaw_: Oh, it's activated in BIOS
[08:21] <I_am_the_cure> I told you everything & u keep suggesting same carp
[08:21] <void^> I_am_the_cure: my advice: if you're new to linux, don't mess with cedega, keep your windows games to native windows.
[08:21] <Frogzoo> I_am_the_cure: so don't pay the bill
[08:21] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I mean is there some Linux setting that says "Oh, to bad, can't use it unless you change this setting"?
[08:21] <insta`> Biscuitian_Warhe: easiest way to tell, is to load the new kernel, and run top.  While runnign top, press '1'.  It should switch to two CPUs at the top of the screen.
[08:21] <flonesaw_> Biscuitian - depends on MoBo, but usually.
[08:21] <ivan_> sal
[08:21] <insta`> If the BIOS reports two processors, it will use two processors.  The only way to disable it is with disableht as a kernel parameter
[08:22] <Biscuitian_Warhe> insta`: Like when you look at hardware profile it says that there is 2 cpus when there is really 1?
[08:22] <espresso> !postfix
[08:22] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, espresso
[08:22] <ivan_> hello
[08:22] <insta`> Biscuitian_Warhe: there are two processors.
[08:22] <insta`> Hyperthreading is effectively two processors sharing the same L2 cache
[08:22] <insta`> Just two processors on the same die.
[08:22] <Biscuitian_Warhe> isnta`: Oh, so I have two, but they are like 1?
[08:23] <insta`> Well, you have one physical chip
[08:23] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Uh huh
[08:23] <insta`> But the way the voodoo inside works, it appears as two, to just about any process that asks
[08:23] <frank23> insta`: Biscuitian_Warhe, but by default HT is disabled even with a SMP kernel. security risk
[08:23] <Vspirit> what is best practice for installing common plugins to firefox such as flash and java runtime environment on ubuntu 5.10 ?
[08:23] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Oh, ok
[08:24] <Ogg`u> insta you game QuakeWorld ?
[08:24] <elsvent> uhm....the ATI driver i downloaded from ATI official web i execute it by fakeroot and try to make a package
[08:24] <insta`> Ogg`u: nope, he musta stolen my name ;)
[08:24] <elsvent> but it didn't generate any package?
[08:24] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Alrite, well I'm gonna 1) Get this linux-686 smp kernel and see how it works 2) smack this ATI driver 3) eat some chex mix
[08:24] <flonesaw_> [Q]  Why would one sound card mask the onboard sound card so that "lspci" cannot see it?
[08:24] <insta`> frank23: That must be a new thing, because I have a Breezy 2.6.12-10 kernel installed which used HT right out of the box
[08:24] <erikl> I have problem with .mkv h.264 when I go forward or backward alla players crash
[08:24] <Biscuitian_Warhe> elsvent: did it have any errors?
[08:24] <frank23> Biscuitian_Warhe: intel screwed up somewhere and it's possible for a process on one logical cpu to read data from a process on the other logical cpu
[08:24] <elsvent> what's the wrong or step i missed?
[08:24] <elsvent> Biscuitian_Warhe, no i didn't see any errors
[08:24] <Ogg`u> www.forum.quakeworld.pl
[08:24] <Ogg`u> ?
[08:25] <BlackZun> Any1 know where I can find a program that is able to read .deb files?
[08:25] <insta`> BlackZun: #debian
[08:25] <Biscuitian_Warhe> elsevent: try this link
[08:25] <elsvent> Biscuitian_Warhe, or i should build a Debian package?
[08:25] <Seveas> insta`, ?
[08:25] <frank23> insta`: I pretty sure one of the kernel security updates was to disable HT by default. I don't remember when that was though
[08:25] <Seveas> Ubuntu uses .deb files too...
[08:25] <insta`> Seveas: so?
[08:26] <Zoroaster> I will setup a samba server for use as a file server at a remote office for about 10 usersI that I  go,t my question is, does it really need to be a command line server?  how much does GNOME really bring down the server
[08:26] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Seveas: are you like the guy that has like the repo with the Ati built driver thingeys?
[08:26] <Biscuitian_Warhe> elsvent: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:26] <insta`> Zoroaster: why does it need to be graphical?
[08:26] <elsvent> Biscuitian_Warhe, i am following this page yet
[08:26] <Init5> tonyyarusso, that manual upgrade of firefox seems a bit complicated. Can I expect the latest firefox with Dapper relase?
[08:26] <Frogzoo> Zoroaster: you don't want users complaining when the screensaver kicks in though
[08:26] <Zoroaster> insta`, no, it doesn't, I'm just wondering if it really kills the server to be graphical
[08:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> elsevent: Try Seveas repo driver then, I'm not sure why it isn't building for you
[08:27] <frank23> Init5: yes all programs will be current when dapper releases
[08:27] <jlenor1_> how do I restart x from a konsole?
[08:27] <Zoroaster> Frogzoo, true, but I could disable
[08:27] <insta`> Zoroaster: it'll free up a few resources for other processes.
[08:27] <jlenor1_> or logout from a konsole
[08:27] <Frogzoo> Zoroaster: probaly not as long as you're sensible, you should be fine
[08:27] <Seveas> Biscuitian_Warhe, yes, only for breezy though ant not the .23 version yet
[08:27] <Zoroaster> insta`, ok
[08:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jlenore1_: Ctrl Alt Backspace should kill it
[08:27] <Init5> frank23, ok, how come Breezy comes with an old one?  :)
[08:27] <Zoroaster> Frogzoo, ok
[08:27] <jlenor1_> Biscuitian_Warhe, I need a command
[08:27] <zipper> i've just installed apache2 using the guide... But i'm missing one thing, letting the individual user have a public_html dir, which you can access through www.bla.com/~user . I've found out i need the mod called userDir, but i failed to find a place that describes how to enable that. Hints anyone?
[08:28] <elsvent> Biscuitian_Warhe, ok but where is the Seveas repo driver?
[08:28] <insta`> Zoroaster: no reason to really have graphical on there ... anythign you can do in there you can do in command-line.  And it makes more sense for a server environment anyway to free up the resources ...
[08:28] <frank23> Init5: programs are not updated (except for security) within a release. so breezy is fixed until dapper comes out
[08:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Seveas: How well do they work, in your opinion I mean I made my own with the ATI installer but it won't let me start the gui (no errors or 'nething)
[08:28] <flonesaw_> zipper -- it might be in html.conf
[08:28] <odat> anyone able to help me install ffmpeg2theora
[08:28] <Seveas> Biscuitian_Warhe, you need some xorg tweaking as explained on the wiki
[08:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> elsvent: add the repo line, and then look for the fgrlx one with your kernel
[08:29] <theD3viL> when i wanna stream with mozilla-plugin (mplayer-plguin) mplayer opens twice! Why?
[08:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Seveas: I ran the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:29] <flonesaw_> zipper -- which version of Apache?
[08:29] <elsvent> Biscuitian_Warhe, oh u mean first method?
[08:29] <Zoroaster> insta`, I know that command line is the appropriate thing to do an all, it's just that I guess I'm still a little scared to not have the GUI to fall back on, since I am still in my Ubuntu toddler years
[08:29] <zipper> flonesaw_,  apache2... httpd.conf seems to have become obsolete
[08:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> elsvent: No, not the repo default driver, add Seveas's repo to apt (synaptic) and reload the info
[08:29] <Zoroaster> insta`, just wanted some opinions
[08:30] <insta`> Zoroaster: do a server install.  When you get to the shell after rebooting and logging in, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:30] <pulgoki> has anyone been able to get firestarter to play well with samba?
[08:30] <insta`> Configure your server from within the safety of a small X environment
[08:30] <Vspirit> uhmm.. I've found ubuntuguide.org, and I issue a 'sudo apt-get install sun-j2rel-5' but it simply complains with 'E: Couldn't find package sun-j2rel.5' what are my options ?
[08:30] <elsvent> Biscuitian_Warhe, oh i see
[08:30] <Zoroaster> insta`, ok, thanks
[08:30] <flonesaw_> zipper -- Well, in Apache 1.x, you set up those options in httpd.conf
[08:30] <Zoroaster> insta`, ok, sounds like a plan
[08:30] <insta`> Once that's done, switch to a virtual terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F4), log in there, sudo to bash, and /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:30] <insta`> Kill X
[08:30] <insta`> Then remove xubuntu-desktop
[08:30] <flonesaw_> zipper - Apache2 will have similar capabilities.
[08:30] <frank23> Vspirit: don't use ubuntuguide. It's old and unsafe
[08:30] <insta`> And leave it as a console server
[08:30] <elsvent> Biscuitian_Warhe, but what's Seveas's addres for add to source.list?
[08:30] <frank23> !tell Vspirit about java
[08:31] <zipper> flonesaw_, i really dont think so. httpd.conf seem 100% obsolete, it even says so itself
[08:31] <flonesaw_> zipper4 - Time to peruse the Apache docs on the apache site.
[08:31] <odat> anyone able to help me install ffmpeg2theora
[08:31] <mwe> I have a pentium m processor. does anyone know how to determine what core is has, if it's dothan or what? /proc/cpuinfo doesn't seem to tell.
[08:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> elsvent: deb http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas drivers
[08:31] <elsvent> eeeks
[08:31] <elsvent> Biscuitian_Warhe, i am using dapper
[08:32] <flonesaw_> zipper - sorry, i'm not apache2 user.
[08:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> elsvent: Oh, that changes everything then
[08:32] <Seveas> elsvent, dapper has the very latest fglrx drivers already
[08:32] <flonesaw_> [Q]  I have problems enabling two sound cards.
[08:32] <zipper> flonesaw_, fair enough, but as i said before, i tried reading the docs on apache's site earlier, only found a lot of info about the actual mods, not how to enable them
[08:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> elsvent: Did you do the fakeroot X_VERSION=x690 ./blah blah blah before you ran the installer
[08:32] <flonesaw_> zipper -- check out configuration info.
[08:32] <elsvent> Biscuitian_Warhe, yes
[08:33] <Biscuitian_Warhe> elsvent: Oh, then I dunno there...
[08:33] <zipper> flonesaw_, i am, but i didnt compile apache, i used dpkg
[08:33] <elsvent> Biscuitian_Warhe, ok i will try find out why
[08:33] <elsvent> Biscuitian_Warhe, thanks for help
[08:34] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Seveas: What kind of xorg tweaking besides reconfiguring?
[08:34] <elsvent> Seveas, thanks for help
[08:34] <Biscuitian_Warhe> elsvent: De nada
[08:34] <flonesaw_> zipper -- it's the "LoadModule" command in the config file
[08:34] <Vspirit> frank23: thanks
[08:35] <Alex_C> Hey
[08:35] <flonesaw_> zipper -- You are wrong about httpd.conf being obsolete.
[08:35] <Alex_C> how do I upgrade to Dapper?
[08:35] <Frogzoo> !upgrade
[08:35] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[08:35] <flonesaw_> zipper -- I'm on Apache 2.2 doc pages
[08:35] <Frogzoo> Alex_C: be aware dapper is still currently beta
[08:36] <erikl> Is it worth to upgrade to dapper at the moment?
[08:36] <flonesaw_> zipper - the "LoadModule" command in httpd.conf is what you want.
[08:36] <odat> anyone able to help me install ffmpeg2theora
[08:36] <Alex_C> Frogzoo, YEh I know - but i want to try XGL, all the guids I found say to upgrade to dapper
[08:36] <Biscuitian_Warhe> flonesaw_: If you isntall apache via apt it will have no httpd.conf, if you compile via source it should have one
[08:36] <Frogzoo> erikl: dapper is currently beta - so it's a personal decision
[08:36] <tristanmike> dapper is still "broken" so if you can handle the fact that it "might" break out of the blue, go ahead
[08:36] <LathropWells> nvidia-glx enables GL but not video acceleration. - how do i fix that?
[08:36] <Kezzer> odd, in my home folder it used to point to the home folder, now it just points to /
[08:36] <Kezzer> how do I change the path of it?
[08:36] <Alex_C> is there a way to use XGL without Dapper?
[08:37] <flonesaw_> Biscuitian - That's crazy.  Apache needs a conf file.
[08:37] <zipper> flonesaw_, ah okay, guess i misunderstood something on the way. Thanks
[08:37] <insta`> flonesaw_: apache2.conf is the proper config file for Apache 2.0
[08:37] <insta`> httpd.conf is, indeed, obsolete.
[08:37] <Biscuitian_Warhe> flonesaw_: I'm not sure why though
[08:37] <frank23> Alex_C: not really. for xgl you need dapper
[08:37] <Biscuitian_Warhe> either way thanks for your help guys, I need to fix this pansy Linux tower. Lol
[08:37] <zipper> oh
[08:37] <flonesaw_> insta` -- thanks much.  Docs say httpd.conf, but I've never run version 2.
[08:38] <Alex_C> frank23, i'll upgrade to dapper then - I don't use Linux for anything important - mayaswell try it
[08:38] <zipper> apache2.conf looks a bit more like what i was looking for in httpd.conf
[08:38] <insta`> Ya, it's the only way to do it on 1.3
[08:38] <insta`> Guess that's where the confusion came from :)
[08:38] <zipper> thanks guys
[08:38] <LeeJunFan> anyone use debpartial-mirror? if so - how'd you manage that with no doc's available for it? :)
[08:38] <flonesaw_> zipper -- then what you want is "LoadModule" in that file
[08:38] <insta`> Does anyone have experience with fixing alsasink ?  Mine doesn't work out of the box, and I'm pretty thwarted now.
[08:39] <frank23> Alex_C: yeah. I imagine xgl will be smoothed out after dapper is released and will be ready for regular use
[08:39] <erikl> if I upgrade to dapper, will it be easy to upgrade all the packages?
[08:39] <zipper> flonesaw_, yeah i know, i'm on it
[08:39] <flonesaw_> I have weird problem with dual sound cards... Anybody????
[08:39] <sm> hi all
[08:40] <odat> anyone able to help me install ffmpeg2theora
[08:40] <flonesaw_> erikl - yes, it's easy.
[08:41] <insta`> odat: what's wrong with it?
[08:41] <sm> I want to grab a number of screenshots of just part of a bunch of firefox tabs.. any recommendationsn ?
[08:41] <insta`> sm: GIMP?
[08:41] <sm> insta`: you mean save full-screen snapshot, open in gimp & crop, repeat right
[08:42] <jbritz22> whats a linux alternative to winrar
[08:42] <flonesaw_> sm - "Take Screenshot" app on Gnome panel.
[08:42] <erikl> I'm having problems with .mkv, when I play forward, alla players crash
[08:42] <odat> insta`, i just don't know how to install it
[08:43] <sm> flonesaw_: thanks.. that seems the same as alt printscreen, snaps the whole screen