[00:00] <mistawright> akurilin: resolv.conf is being managed as it says it was automatically generated
[00:00] <beandog> rokon1: check forums if you're not finding anyone here who can helpe
[00:00] <beandog> *help
[00:00] <rokon1> forums didnt have an answer for me :/
[00:01] <beandog> :(
[00:01] <rokon1> spent over 4 hrs lookin for a working answer and none came up... :[
[00:01] <beandog> fire up a windows rescue disk and reinstall the boot loader
[00:03] <rokon1> thats the other problem lol... dont have a disk...bought the pc for $45 from a friend :/ its not that the boot loader doesnt work, it boots to GRUB and i select Ubuntu and the screen goes purple as it usually does but the text doesnt come up, so i think it boots ubuntu but doesnt boot ubuntu.
[00:03] <rokon1> dunno how to say it :P Boots the screen without text
[00:03] <beandog> oh
[00:03] <beandog> well that's an entirely different problem then
[00:03] <rokon1> yeah. sorry for the mis-explanation
[00:04] <beandog> rokon1: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB_Error_Reference relevant, maybe?
[00:04] <beandog> rokon1: see if you can boot into single user mode
[00:04] <beandog> and then ... uh ... do something else to fix it.
[00:04] <doctorZeus> rokon1 what kind of video card
[00:04] <beandog> that was gonna be my next question
[00:04] <rokon1> how do i do that? it doesnt give me an option :/ Intel
[00:04] <rokon1> One sec lemme get my laptop
[00:05] <beandog> Hmm
[00:06] <doctorZeus> I've had that purple screen before, seems it was on an 11.x version a while back.  I think I had updated video drivers since the last reboot as the likely cause.
[00:06] <BeBopBishop> kali linux?
[00:06] <BeBopBishop> debian :p
[00:07] <doctorZeus> Can't remember what I did to fix it, it was something relatively easy though.  I think I rm xorg.conf from recovery console
[00:08] <jp-> anyway to get the menu always visible in 13.10? most of what i'm seeing on google is for older versions.
[00:08] <VLanX> so ubuntu should be quite invurnerable to viruses right? But still, any chance that you could still get firefox infected in any way?
[00:08] <rokon1> INtel HD Grapchis
[00:08] <rokon1> Thats what DXDiag says for my display.
[00:09] <rokon1> I dunno vlan, but if your talking to me, I havent downloaded anything with it
[00:09] <rokon1> Ive only used apt-get and i just installed apache :P
[00:09] <VLanX> rokon1: no sorry, was just a question of mine
[00:10] <rokon1> ok lol
[00:10] <beandog> VLanX: eh, in theory, yah
[00:10] <wafflejock> VLanX: no OS is invulnerable
[00:10] <doctorZeus> VLanX absolutely it can.. it's inherently going to be more secure but far far far away from "invulnerable."
[00:10] <beandog> well ... not theory
[00:10] <akurilin> mistawright: ok good so there's something taking care of it then. Ask in here again see if someone knows better
[00:10] <rokon1> but yes, ubuntun is fairly virus free because its not as popular as say mac or windows, but im sure there are SOME viruses for ubuntu
[00:10] <doctorZeus> Linux best ally in being virus free is the low market share
[00:10] <wafflejock> well and hopefully more educated users
[00:11] <wafflejock> with Linux you have a repository for getting your software
[00:11] <VLanX> wafflejock, doctorZeus: so is there anything that i can scan 4 viruses, for ubuntu or firefox?
[00:11] <wafflejock> if that comes from a trusted source then your pretty much good to go
[00:11] <doctorZeus> there are tools
[00:11] <kbrosnan> clamav
[00:11] <rokon1> I reaaaaly dont want to install ubuntu again... :[
[00:11] <wafflejock> clamav mostly finds windows viruses though
[00:11] <wafflejock> honestly there's not a lot of viruses targetting linux as others say but that doesn't mean there aren't malicious pieces of software for linux
[00:12] <VLanX> only low market share? srsly?
[00:12] <wafflejock> the thing is if you don't give them admin rights then you're pretty safe
[00:12] <akurilin> mistawright: ping me when you figure out what's configuring nics on ubuntu server, I'd love to know that myself
[00:12] <wafflejock> VLanX: you have to do sudo to run as root
[00:12] <doctorZeus> rokon1 boot into recovery mode from grub and try rm xorg.conf
[00:12] <wafflejock> if you don't do sudo then you're not in much risk since it can't access the main files
[00:12] <rokon1> eh
[00:12] <beandog> well
[00:12] <rokon1> about that
[00:12] <wafflejock> the other thing is canonical reviews the software and since it's open source issues are more likely to be found
[00:12] <rokon1> i guess being home gave it the magic touch?
[00:12] <beandog> that's not entirely true, but whatevs.  Chances of getting infected are really low to begin with.
[00:13] <rokon1> wouldnt boot at school, try at home and it works.
[00:13] <VLanX> wafflejock: i mean just common use, like surfing to shhitty sites, which could happen
[00:13] <wafflejock> if you find projects that are trusted and widely used then your probably safe but it's more about being security concious, not installing from places you don't trust and the like
[00:13] <rokon1> just gonna not turn it off for awhile and try and find whats causin it and fixing it
[00:13] <rokon1> ^
[00:13] <wafflejock> VLanX: your not likely to get stuff just surfing
[00:13] <wafflejock> VLanX: but the internet itself can be hacked
[00:13] <rokon1> basically if you use apt-get from the standard ubuntu repository, your 90% safe
[00:14] <doctorZeus> It's a bit paradoxical as I'm not joking but Linux is more secure because it's Linux
[00:14] <VLanX> wafflejock: ok but still, anything to protect again malware? something to scan the system with?
[00:14] <wafflejock> VLanX: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5l9lSnNMxg
[00:14] <beandog> VLanX: yah, chkrootkit, rkhunter
[00:14] <rokon1> there are far far far less viruses etc for linux than windows, but it is still an operating system that uses internet.
[00:14] <wafflejock> beandog: +1
[00:14] <rokon1> and usb etc, that can install viruses as well
[00:14] <rokon1> if your usb gets infeted with something then thats possible too.
[00:15] <VLanX> beandog: ok, i'll read bout those
[00:15] <wafflejock> VLanX: it's not as big of an issue if your more careful about what you click or allow to load and stuff
[00:15] <VLanX> wafflejock, no, just surfing 4 porn :D
[00:15] <doctorZeus> If *nix had somehow someway garnered the interest and growth and market share that windows had I think we would see a LOT more virus.  Maybe not as bad as windows because of the fundamental differences?  But plenty more than today
[00:15] <rokon1> right. basically, just...be smart and use common sense
[00:15] <beandog> what rokon1 said.
[00:16] <rokon1> OK so my problem was magically solved, hope the rest of you guys as well! Im off for awhile, later
[00:16] <wafflejock> VLanX: yeah just saying some people install 40 PPAs to get new software from all over and if you don't trust the source or check the source code yourself you never know what your allowing to happen with sudo
[00:16] <vinni_f> Hi, anyone can tell me how to upgrade ubuntu with the live cd on an encrypted fs. the istall gui does not propose the upgrade....
[00:17] <wafflejock> it's not good to have the attitude that the machine is somehow invincible because it's OS X or Linux or something
[00:17] <VLanX> right
[00:18] <wafflejock> lots of exploits are based more on the user and social things than technical issues and in the age of internet based everything people getting data that way is really a major issue regardless of what system you use
[00:18] <beandog> the real threat today is privacy, anyway
[00:19] <beandog> computing power is cheap.
[00:19] <wafflejock> Windows just tends to have 1,000,000 exploits at any given time so it seems much worse, and people are used to constantly allowing admin rights or running as admin
[00:19] <VLanX> well i should definitely get rid of javascript btw
[00:19] <beandog> VLanX: check out noscript ff plugin
[00:19] <dr_acke> has microsoft come auot a system with out a bug
[00:20] <Mongo44> Is there an alternative to java?
[00:20] <wafflejock> VLanX: it all depends on what your doing, in many cases disabling javascript really paralyzes the internet, GMail and the like depend on it, if your paranoid enough you can switch though
[00:20] <beandog> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/noscript/
[00:20] <wafflejock> java is not javascript
[00:20] <kbrosnan> Mongo44: icetea
[00:20] <wafflejock> and yes there are many alternatives
[00:20] <VLanX> beandog: yeah, just got thst one
[00:20] <VLanX> s/thst/that
[00:20] <beandog> VLanX: I really like that one.
[00:20] <apb1963> Every time i reboot, the Network Configuration takes forever, until it finally times out and moves on and finishes booting.  Any ideas on what's wrong here?
[00:20] <beandog> VLanX: I think with that, and adblock, you'll pretty much be golden
[00:21] <VLanX> should be the case yeah :)
[00:21] <beandog> apb1963: sounds like some network device is doing a dhcp request
[00:21] <apb1963> beandog: good call.  dhcpclient is running, I haven't been able to uninstall it
[00:22] <beandog> apb1963: you kind of want it anyway .... so you can get an ip :)
[00:22] <beandog> apb1963: disable the network device that is doing lookups OR change the dhclient timeout to be lower.  It's probably at 60 seconds by default.
[00:23] <Wiz_KeeD> uhm...guys I need some help please :(
[00:23] <Wiz_KeeD> I FINALLY managed only with ubuntu 13.10 to install in uefi mode and grub shows up nice BUT if i boot normally it goes into a blank screen and if i go into safe mode I have the options to resume clean dpkg failsafeX fsck grub network root and system-summary
[00:23] <Wiz_KeeD> halp :(
[00:23] <apb1963> beandog: both good ideas.  It may be the wireless modem that's doing the dhcp call... I'm wired, but I turned the wireless on one day just to see what was in my neighborhood... never turned it back off.
[00:24] <beandog> apb1963: that sounds like the culprit
[00:24] <beandog> apb1963: you can configure networkmanager to disable them individually
[00:24] <apb1963> beandog: I guess I don't understand why it would be doing dhcp calls?
[00:24] <beandog> apb1963: If I had to *guess*, I'd say it's doing that one first.
[00:24] <apb1963> beandog: I mean, the modem already has an IP from the cable modem doohicky
[00:25] <apb1963> ohhhh
[00:25] <apb1963> never thought of that
[00:25] <beandog> and when that times out, it rolls over to the next one.
[00:25] <apb1963> how can I change the order?  /etc/network/interfaces?
[00:25] <zippo^> hello, which url can i learn how can I install Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro?
[00:25] <beandog> apb1963: just the NM interface in your desktop
[00:25] <apb1963> see that's the thing... Network Manager doesn't see any connections
[00:26] <beandog> orly.
[00:26] <beandog> apb1963: but it sees devices, right?
[00:26] <apb1963> orly?
[00:26] <beandog> o really
[00:26] <apb1963> hmmm.... I don't think it does... let me check
[00:26] <beandog> apb1963: which ubuntu are you on
[00:26] <apb1963> 12.04.3
[00:26] <beandog> Hmm okay
[00:27] <apb1963> and I'm not sure what I did with NM :/
[00:27] <beandog> Yah there'll be a setup thingie
[00:27] <bc--> hello dear friends
[00:27] <bc--> i need your help
[00:27] <bc--> please
[00:27] <apb1963> It used to show up on my tray... now it doesn't... and it's not in the search thing
[00:27] <beandog> apb1963: Mine's in my topnav, but I'm on xfce.
[00:27] <apb1963> I'm using kde
[00:27] <beandog> apb1963: I'm *sure* you can run the binary and it'll pull up, but I don't know the name.  It might be easier to just edit it in /etc, honestly.
[00:28] <apb1963> I like editing
[00:28] <apb1963> what do I edit?
[00:28] <beandog> heh
[00:28] <beandog> *that* I don't know ... I generally avoid NM
[00:28] <beandog> well, outside of Ubuntu that is.  too complex.
[00:28] <bc--> i am trting to install a patch on my ubuntu 10.04.4 on vmware machine, but if i execute the patch i receive this message from terminal "./sfk: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ". I tried everything to install "libstdc++.so.5" but is impossible,
[00:28] <bc--> *trying
[00:28] <apb1963> i've never used nm
[00:29] <beandog> apb1963: it just works in ubuntu, so I'm happy
[00:29] <beandog> apb1963: ANYWAY .... find out what binary pulls up the config thingie, and go from there.
[00:30] <beandog> or edit /etc.  Either way ... might  have to lookup NM docs
[00:30] <apb1963> beandog:  are we talking about /etc/network/interfaces?
[00:30] <beandog> apb1963: oh yah, pastebin it for me
[00:30] <apb1963> because I can just comment it out of there... though it's in second position so I'm not sure why it would go first?
[00:30] <apb1963> ok
[00:30] <apb1963> a moment
[00:30] <bc--> any support for me?
[00:31] <apb1963> beandog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6553993/
[00:32] <beandog> apb1963: hmm
[00:32] <beandog> apb1963: isn't auto etho running a dhcp request?
[00:33] <beandog> You'd have to change that ... sec
[00:33] <beandog> oh wait, nm, that's okay
[00:33] <wafflejock> bc--: why 10.04 it's fairly old
[00:33] <apb1963> beandog:  I think that just configures my LAN right?
[00:33] <beandog> wafflejock: If I had to guess, it's a production server
[00:34] <beandog> apb1963: well ... I'd read man interfaces.  Should be your answer in there.
[00:34] <wafflejock> beandog: yeah but should still be brought up to date
[00:34] <bc--> wafflejock : yes but i can use only this one
[00:34] <beandog> wafflejock: yah, that doesn't happen a lot in production. :)
[00:34] <beandog> where uptime is far more important than anything else
[00:35] <wafflejock> guess is otherwise the only option is to find the source for lib std C++ 5 and get it compiled or find a build for 10.04
[00:35] <beandog> anyway.
[00:35] <wafflejock> beandog: yeah but need to have two systems to swap stuff so you can update without risking production
[00:35] <wafflejock> I know the real world isn't so forgiving though
[00:35] <evanm1> hi all. I am new to irc.  I am having a problem installing ubuntu 12.04 on a Dell n7110
[00:35] <apb1963> beandog: well the simple solution is just to comment out wlan0... the thing is I don't know if that's the RIGHT solution.
[00:36] <apb1963> I guess this is where we experiment... I prefer to have a definitive answer generally
[00:36] <beandog> apb1963: seems like the obvious answer to me ... :T *shrug*
[00:36] <apb1963> beandog: funny thing is... I'm dropping those packets in iptables
[00:37] <evanm1> I keep going into low-graphics mode
[00:37] <beandog> apb1963: heh
[00:37] <apb1963> beandog: I drop them because dhcpclient isn't supposed to keep asking for an IP as far as I know....
[00:37] <beandog> that is funny :)
[00:37] <apb1963> beandog: Yet it sends out unending requests.... to me, that's broken.
[00:37] <beandog> well, that's not gonna keep it from trying
[00:37] <apb1963> beandog: that's why I firewalled it
[00:38] <beandog> No, I mean, it'll stil wait for 60 seconds.
[00:38] <apb1963> beandog:  It's a monster.  I can't turn it off.  lol
[00:38] <apb1963> yeah
[00:38] <apb1963> which is why I'm here
[00:38] <beandog> the answer has to be in the interfaces man page
[00:39] <apb1963> No manual entry for dhcpclient
[00:39] <apb1963> which is why I haven't ever changed the default timeout
[00:39] <beandog> apb1963: man dhclient
[00:39] <apb1963> d'oh!
[00:39] <beandog> apb1963: man interfaces
[00:39] <apb1963> been doing that for months
[00:39] <apb1963> kk
[00:40] <apb1963> yeah, I've looked at interfaces before...  I'm not sure what my goal is with that?
[00:40] <beandog> apb1963: the goal is to see what "auto eth0" should be replaced with
[00:40] <beandog> er, not eth0 .. freek.
[00:40] <apb1963> ??
[00:40] <apb1963> wlan0 you mean? the wireless device?
[00:40] <beandog> yes
[00:41] <apb1963> well...  I get an IP from the wire... so...  again... not sure what my goal is here
[00:42] <apb1963> I guess just use something other than auto
[00:42] <beandog> anyway
[00:42] <beandog> it's in there somewhere.
[00:42] <beandog> right.
[00:43] <beandog> apb1963: maybe it's something else that is doing the delay on boot.
[00:43] <beandog> fsck is the next thing that comes to mind ... but that wouldnt run every time
[00:43] <evanm1> Can anyone help on an install with a Dell n7110 with optimus Nvidia graphics card? It boots but only low graphics mode
[00:43] <apb1963> Yeah no it explicitly says Network Configuration
[00:44] <apb1963> 60 seconds
[00:44] <beandog> yah
[00:44] <beandog> that's dhcp
[00:44] <apb1963> it has to be what you said.. the wireless calling it
[00:44] <mukti_> I have a crontab entry that keeps sending me blank emails. Is there any way to only send emails when there is output from the script: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7903178/raw/8818878d6d891c2808d6b346580317123e8086d7/gistfile1.txt
[00:44] <mukti_> I know about MAILTO; but I don't know how to specify a subject without using the 'mail' comand
[00:44] <daftykins> evanm1: 13.10? have you checked the BIOS for any GPU options?
[00:45] <evanm1> No will do now.  Thanks you
[00:45] <beandog> mukti_: I'd put it in a simple shell script
[00:46] <mukti_> beandog: you mean a shell script that calls the python script?
[00:46] <beandog> right
[00:46] <apb1963> beandog: I guess I don't really understand why the wireless doesn't get an IP from my ISP?  Is it because there is no actual wireless server from the ISP?  I'm pretty weak on wireless.. I ignored the whole wireless revolution until recently.  lol
[00:46] <beandog> mukti_: message=`/root/site/reg_check.py`; if [ ! -z $message ]; then echo $message | mail -s "Registration Check"<EMAIL_ADDRESS>fi
[00:47] <beandog> apb1963: I dunno.    The wireless device is my router.  My router - wired - gets the IP from the ISP's modem.
[00:48] <daftykins> evanm1: mmm pretty typical. have you booted with 'nomodeset' ?
[00:49] <beandog> apb1963: okay, well, basically where you're at right now is you have a good idea of what it *might* be ... so that's a good place to start looking at how to configure it differently.  IOW, I'm not gonna read the man page for you. :)
[00:49] <evanm1> daftykins: yes. I checked the xorg log and it says screens found but no usable configuration
[00:49] <dtcrshr> hello! on recovery mode I can go to failsafe and start a normal session, im under 12.04 lts. Nvidia driver is installed ok via jockey, but if i choose normal boot on grub, it goes to " low graphcs mode yada yada" and i cant get to the system
[00:49] <dtcrshr> how do I remove this failsafe warning, and use the system normally?
[00:49] <daftykins> evanm1: and have you looked into bumblebee?
[00:49] <apb1963> beandog: I've already skimmed the man page... nothing leaped out at me because I'm not really sure what I want
[00:49] <beandog> apb1963: you want to disable dhcp lookups
[00:50] <apb1963> I do?
[00:50] <apb1963> ok
[00:50]  * dtcrshr sees that the latest log is also about gpu issues
[00:50] <apb1963> :)
[00:50] <apb1963> thank you :)
[00:50] <md_5> Im having trouble getting the proprietry nvidia drivers to work on my gtx 770, desktop
[00:50] <apb1963> i'll let you know what I find
[00:50] <md_5> Tried using xorg-edgers, eventually got it running, rebooted, and suddenly only get a tty
[00:50] <md_5> I have no idea what else to try
[00:51] <md_5> seems the drivers also cause hangs in the kernel
[00:51] <evanm1> daftykins: I followed the basic setup on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee but it did not resolve my issue
[00:51] <leptone> i have a dual booting MBP running 12.04 and OSX mavericks. does anyone know if an article for updating my ubuntu partition to 13.10 that is suited for me? thx
[00:52] <dtcrshr> what mostly drives me crazy is that mint on the same pc works like a charm
[00:52] <beandog> apb1963: okay well I'm outta anyway, so good luck, but two things I'd do: google how to disable a device in NM, and secondly, find the NM logs and see what it's doing for sure.
[00:52] <dtcrshr> im pretty sure unity will screw up completly my games
[00:53] <apb1963> beandog:  /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[00:53] <daftykins> evanm1: this is 13.10 yes? i'm out of ideas i'm afraid
[00:53] <evanm1> daftykins: I also tried deleting xorg.conf to rely on autodetection but that did not work either
[00:53] <evanm1> daftykins: no it is 12.04
[00:53] <beandog> apb1963: that's gonna be for the daemon
[00:54] <apb1963> beandog: however since NM doesn't see anything (or didn't when I was able to actually find it) I'm not sure I want to disable it?
[00:54] <wafflejock> apb1963: just dropped in where are you at in your diagnoses
[00:54] <daftykins> evanm1: ah 12.04.3? are you using a raring kernel with it and the raring X?
[00:54] <beandog> apb1963: open /etc/network/interfaces, it says right there to read the interfaces man page.  The answer is in there somewhere.  Don't skim. ;)
[00:54] <apb1963> wafflejock: Not sure.  lol
[00:54] <wafflejock> apb1963: so you've got a wireless adapter and your trying to connect to the internet at home?
[00:55] <apb1963> wafflejock: Not exactly
[00:55] <beandog> wafflejock: his NetworkManager is taking 60 seconds to start on boot.  I'm guessing it's one of his devices that is timing out a DHCP requst.  He has the wired doing static IP, the wireless is set to auto.
[00:55] <evanm1> daftykins: Can you give me the commands to check? Thanks
[00:55] <apb1963> beandog: thank you :)
[00:55] <mukti_> beandog: Although it is a little more complex then I originally wanted, it worked, thanks
[00:55] <beandog> good luck apb1963, wafflejock .  I'm outtas.
[00:55] <evanm1> daftykins: uname -r and ??
[00:55] <wafflejock> beandog: later have a good one
[00:55] <beandog> mukti_: :)
[00:55] <daftykins> evanm1: not sure on checking X but you can compare "uname -a" to what raring's backported kernel was
[00:55] <beandog> gratz
[00:55] <apb1963> beandog: Have a great day/night!
[00:56] <dtcrshr> If i remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe what happens?
[00:56] <daftykins> dtcrshr: forgive my simple query but.. why would you not just stick with Mint if it's working? :)
[00:56] <daftykins> dtcrshr: that's just an alternate one, it doesn't get touched
[00:56] <p3rs3us> apb1963, Even if your network manager is taking 60 secs, what is the real problem you are facing? Is the booting slow?
[00:57] <apb1963> wafflejock: Actually... I don't think the wired is doing static IP... not sure that's accurate, though I suppose it depends on your point of view.  The router gets a dynamic IP from the my ISP's cable modem.
[00:57] <dtcrshr> daftykins: thats a tricky question. besides it just works fine for me im installing ubunto on a friends newly bought dell notebook. I was thinking for the regular / low knowledge user ubuntu would be the best suggestion for him
[00:57] <apb1963> p3rs3us: Yes.  Booting stops to wait for the Network Configuration which eventually times out and fails.
[00:58] <wafflejock> apb1963: what version exactly of ubuntu
[00:58] <dtcrshr> but seems wrong this full suport from ubuntu, mostly because it wont work out of the box...
[00:58] <daftykins> dtcrshr: they're both debian derivatives so i don't really see the difference - so you've put 13.10 on this Dell and it's not going so well?
[00:58] <wafflejock> apb1963: if you don't know do lsb_release -a on the comand line
[00:58] <apb1963> p3rs3us: Then it moves on with the rest of the boot process...  and when it's all done, the network is working just fine.  But I want to get rid of that huge pause.
[00:58] <apb1963> wafflejock: 12.04.3
[00:58] <dtcrshr> daftykins: well, I never had good experiences with ubuntu that are not LTS, I installed 12.04
[00:58] <wafflejock> apb1963: straight Ubuntu?
[00:59] <dtcrshr> live boot works fine, only the system itself wont work
[00:59] <apb1963> wafflejock: well it's not gay if that's what you're asking
[00:59] <daftykins> dtcrshr: is it nvidia only this laptop, or optimus?
[00:59] <wafflejock> haha
[00:59] <dtcrshr> and im worried if some automatic uptates will fully break ubuntu again in some near future
[00:59] <wafflejock> meant not xubuntu
[00:59] <dtcrshr> optimus
[00:59] <wafflejock> or kubuntu
[00:59] <evanm1> daftykins: 3.8.0-29-generic #42~precise1 and how do I get the raring backport?
[00:59] <dtcrshr> gt 740m
[00:59] <apb1963> kde installed
[00:59] <wafflejock> or edubuntu or something like that http://askubuntu.com/questions/213614/waiting-for-network-configuration-problem
[00:59] <apb1963> plasma
[01:00] <daftykins> evanm1: there's an ubuntu support page on it somewhere, it's pretty obvious if you google "ubuntu 12.04 raring"
[01:00] <wafflejock> apb1963: okay cool I use Kubuntu here, went from Ubuntu+KDE to straight Kubuntu 13.10, just want to be sure we're on the same page
[01:00] <wafflejock> apb1963: are you seeing the message from that link?
[01:00] <evanm1> daftykins: thanks, will do
[01:00] <p3rs3us> Even if you are not connected to any network, i mean you don't have any wires connected and your wireless isn't working? Then too?
[01:00] <daftykins> dtcrshr: ah - welcome to a world of hurt. sounds like you're in the same situation as evanm1
[01:01] <daftykins> dtcrshr: thought #1 - if Live worked but the install didn't, i'd be willing to bet you installed with updates turned on, to download updates during setup?
[01:01] <dtcrshr> i did that
[01:01] <apb1963> wafflejock: correct
[01:01] <dtcrshr> daftykins: well, on my personal notebook its a gt555m bumblebee works like a charm, i get 39fps on dota 2
[01:01] <dtcrshr> but im using mint LMDE
[01:01] <wafflejock> apb1963: okay so give a pastebin of your current /etc/network/interfaces so we can see what's going on
[01:02] <mukti_> beandog: I'm having another issue now... Although the python script outputs new lines when I run it in my shell, the emails do not have any new lines. Do I need to format them a special way so that the mail command enters new lines?
[01:02] <daftykins> dtcrshr: are you near it now to compare kernel + X version with what's on the ubuntu install?
[01:02] <wafflejock> mukti_: (s)he took off
[01:02] <apb1963> wafflejock: beandog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6553993/
[01:03] <dtcrshr> daftykins: yes, but my ride just came... ill have to go
[01:03] <daftykins> enjoy
[01:03] <dtcrshr> glxpheres says XORG no device detected now.... ill give mint a try then
[01:03] <dtcrshr> thans anyway
[01:03] <p3rs3us> apb1963, Try this command  cat /var/log/syslog |grep NetworkManager and paste the output somewhere.
[01:04] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: did you ever figure out your issue?
[01:04] <leptone> so im trying to upgrade from 12.04  to 13.04 so i can then go to 13.1. i ran the update-manager -d command which brought me to the update manager. where it says at the top ":New Ubuntu Release '14.04' is avaliable" the an upgrade button. should i just go to 14.04? is it stable?
[01:04] <Wiz_KeeD> technickul, this is the first time it worked technickul, but only worked with ubuntu 13.10
[01:05] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: what had you been trying earlier?
[01:05] <Wiz_KeeD> That's not good enough for me I need to understand what happened, how to do it again and use 12.04 if 13.10 doesn't cut it
[01:05] <Wiz_KeeD> earlier when technickul ?
[01:05] <apb1963> p3rs3us: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554093/
[01:05] <mukti_> Does anyone know if there is a special way to enter newlines with the mail command?
[01:05] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: idk you've had this problem since saturday I think so I"m wondering which version you were using befreo
[01:06] <evanm1> daftykins: I found this fight http://askubuntu.com/questions/336527/how-to-upgrade-to-the-next-hardware-enablement-stack/336573#336573 on how to upgrade to 3.8.0 but I don't understand the backports and what I should compare.  Can you give me a google search term?
[01:06] <Wiz_KeeD> I was using 12.04 which doesn't seem to handle grub installation and patching as well as 13.10 does
[01:06] <wafflejock> apb1963: yeah believe you need to be looking at /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf now actually instead of /etc/network/interfaces
[01:06] <Wiz_KeeD> I managed to get even 12.04 working in the end but it made some ugly freezes
[01:06] <Wiz_KeeD> Dunno why that happened but it did
[01:06] <wafflejock> will see if I notice anything in the logs too though
[01:07] <Wiz_KeeD> technickul, I ended up partitioning my drive from gparted manually
[01:07] <Wiz_KeeD> How far are you with your issue though
[01:07] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[01:07] <apb1963> wafflejock: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554095/
[01:07] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: my guess is since 13.10 is most current which is why it might have worked. I'm good to go mine has been since Sunday
[01:08] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah maybe that's why it worked but there are a lot of unanswered questions :(
[01:08] <Wiz_KeeD> How did you solve your issue in the end technickul ?
[01:08] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: I just had to manual add grub entries that pointed to efi partition to the windows install and boom good to go
[01:09] <Wiz_KeeD> So your only issue was that grub was not showing the efi partition of windows to launch it?
[01:09] <J-Escobar> Question on an Ubuntu install that won't boot. Boots into busybox. I loaded an Ubuntu live cd and tried mounting my install at /dev/sda1 and it just hangs. Tried running an e2fsck from the live cd on /dev/sda1 and it says it is busy and will not run. Any help would be appreciated!
[01:10] <daftykins> evanm1: well, it's just a guess of mine really - not sure what you need beyond the commands and packages mentioned on there
[01:10] <wafflejock> apb1963: believe you need to set that to true on managed for /etc/network/interfaces to take effect which basically disabled NetworkManager from what I understand http://www.sitepoint.com/ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin-networking-tips-and-tricks/
[01:10] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: That was the final problem. I had a issues installing at first because I was trying to install in non uefi mode. Now I have fan/battery issues sometimes when I boot to unbuntu. It maxes out my fan and makes my battery charge led light flicker
[01:10] <wafflejock> when you do a ifconfig do you see the static IP you picked?
[01:11] <Wiz_KeeD> technickul, ouch that doesn't sound good
[01:11] <apb1963> wafflejock: Yes
[01:11] <Wiz_KeeD> idk about battery since I don't use it in my notebook tbh
[01:11] <Wiz_KeeD> but my fan keeps going at it as well
[01:11] <Wiz_KeeD> I mean not hard but...still
[01:11] <pers3us> apb1963, Did you get the message I sent? I thing i got dcd.
[01:11] <wafflejock> apb1963: yeah think I would take a backup of NetworkManager.conf as shown in that link and try to set it to true and give it a reset
[01:11] <evanm1> daftykins:  Thanks for your help.  I will let you know if I solve it. Ubuntu has been running on this laptop for 2 years. I know I screwed something up when it asked me if I wanted to add prop drivers.  It has not booted since. :-/
[01:12] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: my was maxed out. I wouldn't be worried if this wasn't a super expensive ultrabook lol
[01:12] <wafflejock> pers3us: yeah log was pasted http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554093/
[01:12] <apb1963> p3rs3us: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554093/
[01:12] <pers3us> oh. lemme have a look.
[01:12] <wafflejock> apb1963: aterisk box eh?
[01:13] <daftykins> evanm1: oh so it's got nvidia installed right now?
[01:13] <daftykins> evanm1: did you actually want to do that or were you happy as-is?
[01:13] <wafflejock> apb1963: I setup a a RasPBX here for doing some SIP stuff, lots of fun and cheapy calls
[01:14] <evanm1> daftykins: I would be happy to get unity working. I just want it working again.  I am not sure.
[01:14] <apb1963> wafflejock: Based on what beandog said, it seems as if my wireless device is asking for a dynamic IP... from my ISP I guess?  Since I'm wired and the wireless and wired devices are the same - i.e. the router  I don't know why the dhcp request wouldn't succeed.... what difference does it make which portion of the router is asking for the IP?  But, as can be seen from my firewall logs, it asks for an IP over and over (which is why I firewalled it)
[01:14] <pers3us> apb1963, Looks alright to me :-/ Which network devices you have.
[01:14] <wafflejock> apb1963: well your router will get the IP from the modem
[01:14] <apb1963> pers3us: all 3.  eth0 lo0 and wlan0
[01:15] <pers3us> apb1963, What is your wifi device? Is it a broadcom chipset?
[01:15] <daftykins> evanm1: surely unity worked with just the intel GPU in use - just remove the nvidia drivers you installed
[01:15] <wafflejock> apb1963: the modem will get the IP from the ISP
[01:15] <wafflejock> your router will give your device IPs
[01:15] <wafflejock> assuming here your router does the DHCP on the network which is the norm
[01:15] <evanm1> daftykins: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia* ??
[01:16] <wafflejock> the hanging is because your local interfaces aren't connecting for some reason it seems... or at least that's what it's telling us
[01:16] <daftykins> evanm1: yeah that'd do it
[01:16] <apb1963> wafflejock: I've turned off DHCP on the router and assigned a static IP to my device (currently, only one)
[01:16] <apb1963> pers3us: let me see if I can determine that.. lshw???
[01:16] <wafflejock> lscpci -k
[01:16] <wafflejock> or lsusb for usb stuff
[01:17] <wafflejock> lshw may get it but probably lots of other stuff too
[01:17] <evanm1> daftykins: executing the prior command now 5 to remove and 2 not upgraded
[01:17] <apb1963> wafflejock: I'm confused....  I'm looking for the router info. lspci would give me builtin devices (well, cards anyway) yes?
[01:17] <somsip> apb1963: if you can just get the router to not assign IPs for a certain block and use one of those as your static, you might get what you want.
[01:18] <pers3us> apb1963, wafflejock My guess is it has nothing to do with ip getting assigned, its more likely becuase chipset is not able to communicate.
[01:18] <pers3us> normally DHCP is really fast. It shouldn't take 60 secs.
[01:18] <daftykins> evanm1: as long as they're all nvidia driver related, the ones being removed, that should be good
[01:18] <evanm1> daftykins: sudo shutdown -h now and reboot??
[01:18] <apb1963> ok, for those of you that missed the beginning of this conversation... the problem is that I'm getting Network Configuration time out on bootup.
[01:19] <daftykins> evanm1: well i prefer -r 0 to reboot, but sure ;)
[01:19] <wafflejock> apb1963: yeah really was looking to supplement what pers3us was saying to get the hardware info to see what's loaded
[01:19] <evanm1> daftykins: doing it your way
[01:20] <pers3us> apb1963, I guess this the first time you are trying to install *nix on your machine. Right?
[01:20] <apb1963> oh... I wonder... I wasn't thinking... there is a wireless adapter installed...  maybe that's the culprit
[01:20] <wafflejock> I beleive if the router doesn't know if an IP address yet it will act as an auto sensing switch where the first time it gets a packet that has the source IP on it from your computer it will put that in it's lookup table x port has aaa.aaa.aaa.aaa IP address for any future communication, but it sounds like there is some hardware failure
[01:21] <apb1963> pers3us: Umm... no.
[01:21] <pers3us> apb1963, so it worked fine before?
[01:21] <apb1963> pers3us: Never
[01:21] <pers3us> ah
[01:21] <evanm1> daftykins: problem solved. The ubuntu community comes through again. Many thanks :-)
[01:21] <wafflejock> yeah you may be able to disable the wireless by setting the NetworkManager if managed=true so it uses /etc/network/interfaces then comment out the wlan0 lines
[01:22] <pers3us> ^ do that. Disable wireless and then try.
[01:22] <wafflejock> not sure if it's already using /etc/network/interfaces though since you say the static IP on ethernet is applied... seems a bit strange
[01:22] <wafflejock> also if a hardware switch is available for wireless that may help too
[01:22] <pers3us> It should use /etc/network/interfaces
[01:22] <wafflejock> just cut it off entirely
[01:22] <daftykins> evanm1: my pleasure ^_^ only sorry i didn't follow sooner
[01:23] <apb1963> wafflejock: pers3us Here... let me shed a bit more light... iwconfig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554152/
[01:24] <wafflejock> apb1963: yeah give it a shot with that disabled since it's not currently connecting to anything it may be causing the system to hang while it scans for networks or something
[01:25] <pers3us> wafflejock, IIRC I don't think connecting to wifi network is part of boot up, is it?
[01:26] <wafflejock> pers3us: well figure it's worth a shot anyhow won't hurt to try if it's not being used atm anyhow
[01:26] <pers3us> hmm. Let him try then.
[01:27] <apb1963> wafflejock: so you're thinking the router, is scanning for wireless networks on bootup?
[01:28] <wafflejock> apb1963: thinking the wifi card in your laptop may be... it's not really the norm though as pers3us says because it needs access to KWallet or whatever is storing your WPA key or whatever security for the network and stuff
[01:28] <wafflejock> apb1963: it does seem a bit unlikely but good to reduce the problem space
[01:28] <apb1963> wafflejock: desktop
[01:28] <wafflejock> okay either way
[01:28] <wafflejock> sucks though no hardware switch in that case
[01:28] <apb1963> kwallet request comes up after I login
[01:29] <wafflejock> easier to pop it out though I suppose
[01:29] <wafflejock> apb1963: right that's what pers3us was saying too normally wifi is handled after login etc.
[01:29] <apb1963> I think the request is by chrome
[01:29] <pers3us> apb1963, Yeah, the request will come when you login, cz that is when trigger for wpa comes up. So before that wireless should not request to connect.
[01:30] <Wiz_KeeD> It seems that my cooler is going down, temperatures are really well and no problems rendering, should I install bumble-bee to further optimize my power conumption and all?
[01:30] <wafflejock> apb1963: as others suggest here http://askubuntu.com/questions/213614/waiting-for-network-configuration-problem miscellaneous extra stuff in /etc/network/interfaces has caused this though
[01:30] <wafflejock> and you do have the lines for wlan0 dhcp
[01:30] <wafflejock> this is my full /etc/network/interfaces
[01:30] <wafflejock> auto lo
[01:30] <wafflejock> iface lo inet loopback
[01:30] <wafflejock> 13.10 Kubuntu though
[01:31] <wafflejock> wifi is connected after login
[01:31] <pers3us> Yours is Atheros Wifi Chipset?
[01:31] <apb1963> so then it sounds like the answer is to simply assign a static ip instead of a dhcp request
[01:31] <apb1963> pers3us: Yes
[01:32] <apb1963> and it sounds like its not the router... but the card.
[01:32] <wafflejock> apb1963: yeah much easier to verify if you have other devices you can test the router with but most likely it's just a configuration issue or driver problem in your OS than anything else from what I can tell
[01:33] <pers3us> apb1963, I doubt it, assigning static ip isnt a solution. But nevertheless give it a try.
[01:33] <apb1963> in fact... duh.... I turned off dhcp on the router... which is why nothing is responding to the card - although to be honest I can't remember if this problem was ocurring prior to my turning it off on the router - but I think it was.  Hmm.
[01:33] <pers3us> wafflejock, Yeah looks like OS/Driver problem.
[01:33] <AA2012> hi any one can help to install flash player on ubuntu on samsung Arm Chromebook
[01:34] <wafflejock> AA2012: not included in Chromium?
[01:34] <AA2012> no it is not
[01:34] <pers3us> apb1963, wafflejock if you guys will take a look at the syslog, wifi isn't trying to connect there. It only tries to connect if you have a wired network.
[01:35] <AA2012> #chrubuntu
[01:35] <apb1963> wireless only tries to connect if you have a wired network?  I'm lost on that one.
[01:35] <mimikins> anon
[01:35] <AA2012> hi any one can help to install flash player on ubuntu on samsung Arm Chromebook
[01:35] <Wiz_KeeD> lspci | grep VGA returns just the intel video card, does this mean it runs only on the intel card?
[01:36] <malt> whats a good web editor design like dreamweaver in ubuntu software
[01:36] <pers3us> apb1963, I meant wireless isn't trying to connect. it will try to connect if it is wired network. not wireless
[01:36] <apb1963> pers3us: "It" what is "it"?  The card?
[01:36] <pers3us> AA2012, Can you not install flashplayer-plugin?
[01:36] <pers3us> apb1963, ya
[01:36] <AA2012> how
[01:37] <apb1963> pers3us: Again... I'm lost on that one.  Why would a wireless card only try to connect if the network is wired?
[01:37] <pers3us> apb1963, ah sorry, i mean ubuntu. not the chipset. ubuntu tries to connect wired on bootup but not wireless
[01:38] <aeoril> What is the best way to remote into Ubuntu desktop?  I used to use VNC, but was wondering if anything else is in wide use
[01:38] <pers3us> apb1963, Wireless connection shouldn't happen till you are logged in
[01:38] <apb1963> pers3us: OK, but that puts us back at square one.  What is causing the boot delay in the Network Configuration?
[01:38] <aeoril> (graphically)
[01:38] <pers3us> aeoril, VNC is only one that i know of.
[01:39] <apb1963> pers3us: No, that doesn't make sense...  you're saying (assuming I had no wire) that I don't get network unless I login?
[01:39] <pers3us> apb1963, let me think.
[01:39] <aeoril> pers3us ok - is there a native VNC server that comes with Saucy desktop that works well?
[01:40] <pers3us> apb1963, ya you wont get connected to any network till you are logged in, unless it is a wired network.
[01:40] <aeoril> well, not really "native", but through normal apt-get?
[01:40] <apb1963> I think what I said earlier is at least part of the solution if not all of it...  wlan0 dhcp in the interfaces file doesn't make sense if the router is not giving out dhcp addresses... but ... I don't think that's the whole solution.... and might even be a different problem.
[01:40] <pers3us> aeoril, There are lots of them. Google it .
[01:41] <aeoril> pers3us ok, but if I remember correctly when I used it before, there were only three (I think) servers and I could only get one to work (I am not talking about clients)
[01:41] <pers3us> aeoril, one that i remember is vino.
[01:42] <aeoril> pers3us googling ...
[01:42] <apb1963> pers3us: wafflejock: I get tons of these, because I blocked and log them in iptables: Dec 10 17:41:14 asterisk kernel: [18823.904656] IPTables-Dropped: IN=wlan0 OUT= MAC= SRC=<IP_ADDRESS> DST=<IP_ADDRESS> LEN=81 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=48260 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=6
[01:42] <pers3us> aeoril, apt-cache search vnc
[01:42] <aeoril> pers3us ok, thanks :)
[01:43] <apb1963> so maybe that's my dhcp problem in interfaces
[01:43] <pers3us> apb1963, This doesnt look like a request for dhcp.
[01:44] <pers3us> apb1963, Have a look https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast_address
[01:45] <apb1963> Multicast DNS (mDNS) address
[01:46] <apb1963> so now I'm even more lost.  lol
[01:46] <daftykins> apb1963: if you're managing wireless with network manager, you shouldn't have anything more than an "auto wlan0" entry in interfaces afaik
[01:46] <daftykins> or in fact, i'm not sure you mention the interfaces at all when NM manages them
[01:46] <apb1963> daftykins: that's just it... nothing shows up in network manager... on those days where network manager actually shows up at all.
[01:46] <daftykins> that sounds uncharacteristically unreliable
[01:46] <apb1963> today, it's not showing up at all
[01:46] <daftykins> what've you done to your install?  :P
[01:47] <apb1963> well... I started with a server install
[01:47] <apb1963> then I added a desktop, because my other machine which was my desktop - died.
[01:47] <daftykins> ruh-roh
[01:47] <pers3us> is it 12.04 server?
[01:47] <pers3us> :O
[01:47] <apb1963> yes
[01:47] <aeoril> pers3us fyi I found this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Saucy_Remote_Access#Remote_Access
[01:47] <daftykins> so you've been hacking at it ever since? :D
[01:48] <apb1963> then, after installing asterisk and a softphone...  a DBUS bug was found...
[01:48] <pers3us> aeoril, Are you trying to connect to ubuntu machine from a different computer right?
[01:48] <aeoril> pers3us yes
[01:49] <aeoril> (with a gui)
[01:49] <pers3us> aeoril, Install vino, set it up and then install a vnc client on the other machine and connect from there.
[01:49] <apb1963> i reported the dbus bug as best I could, but never heard back and haven't had time to follow up... I just assumed that the massive updates that came down soon after were the reason for it :)
[01:49] <pers3us> it will work same as Remote desktop
[01:49] <aeoril> pers3us is remote desktop native to the Ubuntu distro?
[01:50] <pers3us> Remote desktop is native to windows. it works on RDP
[01:50] <apb1963> the softphone developer changed his code so as to avoid tickling the bug... so it's unclear whether the dbus bug was fixed or not.
[01:50] <pers3us> afaik there are no servers that provide RDP on ubuntu
[01:50] <pers3us> apb1963, you have lost it :D
[01:50] <apb1963> sflphone by the way.  Very nice phone.
[01:51] <apb1963> open source
[01:51] <apb1963> pers3us: I've always been mad.  lol
[01:51] <aeoril> pers3us oh, yes - I know what you are talking about now - I did not realize you were talking about windows
[01:52] <wafflejock> apb1963: yeah like sflphone too
[01:52] <pers3us> apb1963, IIRC (i am not sure so verify) the network service is handled differently in server edition, since it is headless.
[01:52] <apb1963> the thing is....  I'm pretty sure this network issue has always existed, but not 100% sure.
[01:52] <apb1963> pers3us: that, I have no idea.
[01:52] <pers3us> when you try to install kubuntu over it, the network manger won't show the interfaces.
[01:53] <apb1963> pers3us: yes, that's one of my issues
[01:53] <pers3us> apb1963, So when you try to configure the interfaces from /etc/network/* folder then it has completely different set of configurations,
[01:53] <apb1963> "it" being... network manager?
[01:54] <pers3us> umm, i don't know the exact package name but the service is networking
[01:54] <apb1963> ok
[01:54] <pers3us> not NetworkManager
[01:54] <apb1963> got it
[01:54] <pers3us> so when you try to use wireless you have to add a script to your ip.up.d/ folder
[01:55] <apb1963> pers3us: that I don't think I've ever done
[01:55] <pers3us> cz if you try to enable the wireless for networking (the service) it will try to connect but it wont have wpa password to actually open the connection
[01:56] <pers3us> this is probably why you are getting delayed in bootup.
[01:56] <malt> whats a good web editor design like dreamweaver in ubuntu software
[01:56] <pers3us> This is possibly the only hypothesis i can come up with :D so pardon me if I am wrong.
[01:56] <apb1963> pers3us: this sounds very interesting
[01:56] <apb1963> and beyond my scope
[01:57] <apb1963> so what is this script you speak of?
[01:57] <pers3us> apb1963, Have a look here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1963404
[01:57] <somsip> !brain
[01:58] <somsip> !nvu | malt
[01:59] <somsip> !html | malt
[01:59] <Noft> Yo
[02:00] <malt> somsip none of these are in software manager how do i get more sources
[02:01] <pers3us> malt apt-cache search "packagename"
[02:01] <pers3us> sudo apt-get install "exactPacckagename"
[02:01] <malt> I did it finds nothing how can I get more sources
[02:02] <somsip> malt: type !info {packagename} if you want to know more about a specific package
[02:04] <wafflejock> !ppa | malt
[02:05] <wafflejock> malt: check out http://www.codeacademy.com if you want to learn to develop though probably better off than with any "WYSIWYG" editor since they can't easily account for various screen dimensions
[02:06] <wafflejock> malt: when it comes to webdev your better off knowing the languages or using something like WordPress or Drupal or whatever where the admin is done through a web interface, even then learning the underlying technologies is where it's really at for jobs
[02:07] <pers3us> ^yeah, exactly what wafflejock is saying. Just use sublime and write it yourself. In general dreamweaver or any WYSIWYG editor isn't a good idea
[02:09] <wafflejock> malt: I suggest you do the basic web development tutorial on codeacademy then do the javascript one, then join us in the AngularJS chat and start learning Angular, there are lots of options but IMHO this is the best in the business at the moment
[02:09] <pers3us> wafflejock, You on angular as well! :D
[02:09] <wafflejock> pers3us: who isn't :)
[02:09] <malt> I just want a html that shows template lets you click on that spot and goes direct to the part to edit
[02:11] <pers3us> wafflejock, I did a mobile (phonegap) app using angular, it was fun. Though I think it has quite a learning curve
[02:11] <wafflejock> malt: why? between chrome developer tools and having livereload setup with grunt things are very easy in the end, having a graphical editor results in garbage code 99% of the time (granted ADT and iOS dev this isn't so true since things are more restricted/known)
[02:11] <wafflejock> pers3us: definite learning curve but would suggest it over learning 5 other libraries and mashing them up
[02:11] <gonyere> so, I recently bought a new desktop (this one: http://moofi.woot.com/offers/quad-core-desktop-with-1tb-hd-19) and apparently it could do with a video card upgrade... any suggestions?
[02:11] <toki78>  /msg NickServ identify wbc67klm
[02:11] <somsip> toki78: and.....change it
[02:12] <toki78> :)))
[02:12] <toki78> sh.....
[02:12] <toki78> how ?
[02:12] <somsip> !password
[02:12] <somsip> maybe not. !register perhaps. Not sure
[02:12] <toki78> !register
[02:13] <wafflejock> malt: you can get yeoman installed http://yeoman.io/community-generators.html then install the angular generator, do a mkdir, cd into there, yo angular, and you get a web project all setup for you ready for test to be written and with a live server, run grunt server and all changes saved via any editor will auto-reload in the browser, it's really sweet once you configure a few things
[02:15] <toki78> oh man, that never happened to me :((
[02:15] <_pers3us_> wafflejock, I think he will go mad if he starts doing angular withouth knowing web-basics. :D
[02:15] <wafflejock> pers3us: yeah for sure just saying there is tons of tooling out there to make it easier but WYSIWYG isn't the way to go
[02:16] <wafflejock> pers3us: for Android or iOS sure
[02:16] <wafflejock> pers3us: but not web development, especially in the mobile heavy world
[02:16] <pers3us> wafflejock, not even for Android. I would always suggest writing it rather than WYSIWYG tools.
[02:16] <wafflejock> pers3us: yeah but ADT tools are helpful design wise
[02:17] <wafflejock> in web dev using grunt for livereload so you don't ever have to refresh and can test multiple devices and see changes on every save is key
[02:17] <apb1963> wafflejock: pers3us: final answer appears to be http://pastebin.com/BG3117AH  although I have not tested it.
[02:17] <SickDual> what does it mean when my disk says 37/97 and a lot of numbers that are bad sectored?
[02:17] <wafflejock> apb1963: hmm k let us know if it works out if you could
[02:17] <pers3us> apb1963, ya i read that thread, this should work! :D give it a try and let us know.
[02:18] <apb1963> stop: Unknown instance:
[02:19] <apb1963> dang.
[02:19] <pers3us> lol
[02:20] <malt> somsip , kompozer was perfect thanks
[02:20] <wafflejock> pers3us: how was working with PhoneGap?
[02:20] <wafflejock> pers3us: I mean good bad ugly
[02:21] <pers3us> Its like best of two worlds! I enjoyed writing in Angular, and then it worked perfectly on most of the mobile phones.
[02:21] <pers3us> It has its quirks though.
[02:22] <schultza> how can i tell if my isc-dhcp-server is listening on the right port only?
[02:22] <wafflejock> pers3us: nice, I've just dabbled in Android native dev some but mostly focus on desktop/laptop focused web app type stuff, also doing some more static mobile friendly stuff too but sort of rolling my own and using bootstrap largely
[02:22] <pers3us> Unless you really want things to be really really fast and you aren't writing angular like a fool (which i initially did) it works quite nicely
[02:22] <SickDual> ?? anyone?
[02:22] <wafflejock> !details | SickDual
[02:23] <wafflejock> schultza: nmap
[02:23] <SickDual> Not sure if its the right chat tho, its about my hard drive?
[02:23] <wafflejock> SickDual: well if you run ubuntu someone may know
[02:23] <somsip> malt: np
[02:24] <pers3us> wafflejock, Nice, how was working on Android native. All I did was modify a few java classes here and there while I was developing with Phonegap, I have no real andrdoi dev exp.
[02:24] <schultza> wafflejock: how would i use nmap to to watch for this?
[02:24] <SickDual> Im running ubuntu 13.10 and I recently just swapped my old hard drive that was going to die out for my other old laptops. Sucessfull install and everything but in disks it says good condition 37/97 c and 200 somethin sectors that are bad? Im wondering what that means.
[02:25] <wafflejock> pers3us: really like it, I'm a Java/AS3 guy to some degree though, dabbled a little in C when I didn't know what I was doing yet but worked professionally in AS3/Java for 3 years now moving into AS3 and falling back on PHP since I just find it easier than Java for most simple stuff
[02:25] <wafflejock> pers3us: did a little demo thing recently for using the face tracking API which is nice and easy, gives you an array of Faces with some info on position and confidence
[02:26] <wafflejock> schultza: nmap will show you which ports are open
[02:26] <somsip> wafflejock: pers3us: though I'm in a very similar boat right now and it is interesting to read this, it is rather OT for here
[02:26] <pers3us> wafflejock, Wow, sounds fun. I will give it a try.
[02:26] <wafflejock> !info nmap
[02:26] <wafflejock> somsip: sorry you're right realized that about 5 min ago will keep it out of here now
[02:26] <pers3us> SomeDamnBody, Sorry! :D
[02:26] <somsip> wafflejock: np :)
[02:27] <lickalott> Hey all.  Having an issue with a corrupt boot partition (grub I believe ).  On sda5 of that drive is my data.  Its kvm2 and I can't seem to get it to mount.  I've tried lvscan, the vg commands etc...  it says the partition table is missing.  Anyone know of a way I can get my stuff back?
[02:27] <pers3us> somsip, Sorry :D
[02:27] <pers3us> Okay wafflejock, catch you later! its sleep time nite! :)
[02:27] <wafflejock> pers3us: yup g'night
[02:28] <spence> how do i reset the logon screen theme to it's default settings (gdm)
[02:28] <SickDual> oka
[02:30] <SickDual> Anyone know why my IRC channel color prefrences arent updating?
[02:31] <wafflejock> SickDual: nope might help if you say what client you use too though, I'm not a big IRC client explorer
[02:31] <daftykins> SickDual: client support is probably best handled by some channel to do with the client rather than the OS
[02:31] <SickDual> wafflejock, Sorry its XChat
[02:32] <wafflejock> SickDual: also not so sure about your hard drive errors you may want to check out the SMART tools to see if you can see if you can get more info about possible hard drive failure indicators some of them have wear level or other properties that can help to see what's going on
[02:32] <SickDual> Thanks
[02:33] <SickDual> So run smart tools?
[02:35] <Beldar> SickDual, ubuntu has a smart tool built in and you can use others from the repo.
[02:37] <Kirsch> hey all i just ran apt-get upgrade and i got a ton of out of space on /tmp, checked and its only 1M… any ideas?
[02:38] <cyberputz> how much available space do you have on /tmp ?
[02:39] <Kirsch> none… the actual size is only 1M...
[02:39] <daftykins> Kirsch: can you paste.ubuntu.com "df -h" ?
[02:39] <Kirsch> read my mind - 1sec
[02:39] <Kirsch> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554379/
[02:39] <cyberputz> that was quick
[02:39] <Kirsch> i know what i'm doing ;-) at least most of the time
[02:40] <cyberputz> were you intending to mount another filesystem on /tmp ?
[02:40] <daftykins> most of my help giving in here is me twiddling my thumbs waiting for people to do something
[02:40] <daftykins> you had that before i'd even fetched a blueberry muffin from the kitchen D:
[02:41] <Kirsch> cyberputz: no -it seems like this just happened on me
[02:42] <daftykins> Kirsch: hrmm logout/login or restart might be worth a go first, i don't think i understand how tmp works enough for anything more than that
[02:42] <daftykins> was it just during the package download?
[02:42] <Kirsch> daftykins: no it was during install
[02:42] <cyberputz> no, he literally only has 1M available in /tmp
[02:43] <cyberputz> in total.
[02:43] <daftykins> yeah i know, i read it
[02:43] <Kirsch> is it worth seeing fstab
[02:43] <Kirsch> ?
[02:43] <daftykins> why not
[02:43] <Kirsch>  /etc/fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554386/
[02:44] <cyberputz> no mention of /tmp
[02:44] <cyberputz> what about mtab ?
[02:45] <Kirsch>  /etc/mtab http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554402/
[02:45] <Kirsch> its listed there
[02:45] <Kirsch> as overflow?
[02:45] <cyberputz> umount /tmp and you should have 13g at your disposal in /
[02:45] <Kirsch> device is busy…
[02:45] <Kirsch> can i remove from mtab and reboot?
[02:46] <cyberputz> dont need to remove from mtab, you could reboot, or you could use lsof /tmp and kill anything that has a lock on /tmp
[02:46] <cyberputz> lemme re-read your fstab.
[02:47] <Kirsch> tomcat and my vmtools.. (yes its a VM inside an ESXi host)
[02:47] <Kirsch> hmmm
[02:47] <cyberputz> oh. what about /etc/auto.master
[02:47] <daftykins> size=10% was appended there 0o
[02:47] <daftykins> is that not a bit weird
[02:47] <Mathias> where does lightdm log to?
[02:48] <Kirsch> cyberputz: i dont have auto.master
[02:48] <Mathias> it seems that i can't log in anymore... :\
[02:48] <cyberputz> no automount? ok
[02:48] <Kirsch> i'm on precise
[02:48] <Kirsch> LTS
[02:49] <cyberputz> well, if you didnt deliberately mount /tmp , id suspect automount .
[02:49] <cyberputz> (barring fstab entries)
[02:49] <Kirsch> ok so i killed those 2 processes and lsof isn't showing anything and i can't unmount it still
[02:50] <cyberputz> ah here you go
[02:50] <cyberputz> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/60731/overflow-tmp-mounted-when-there-is-free-space-on
[02:50] <cyberputz> ive never seen that before.
[02:51] <cyberputz> try umount -f /tmp
[02:51] <cyclicflux> Good evening all!!!
[02:51] <Kirsch> -f didn't work
[02:51] <cyberputz> apparently it does this to a ram disk.. neat.
[02:51] <Kirsch> i saw that article… i couldn't even unmount it -  this is where it got stuck
[02:54] <Mathias> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554422/ found it
[02:54] <Mathias> now i need to know what happens <.<
[02:55] <al_la> Hey all, in need of help. I'm on 13.04, running distro upgrade tool for 13.10. It's completed the steps 'preparing to upgrade' 'setting new software channels' 'getting new packages' and is working on 'installing the upgrades', but in the terminal below it says (after 'setting up ... packages') '... downloading ... flashplugin ..'.  While doing this additional downloading, my internet died, and now that it
[02:55] <al_la> is back, the window is still sitting there as if that specific step/process of the tool has hanged.  No way to cancel or force refresh or test of internet.  Thoughts?
[02:56] <Kirsch> woot i was able to unmount it! it was winbindd that was also locking, lsof | grep tmp showed it
[02:56] <cyberputz> well, thanks, i learned something from that =p
[02:56] <buu> al_la: Uh, kill the tool and restart it?
[02:59] <al_la> buu: I didn't know how the tool would handle being killed part way ... feels dangerous through a half upgraded system
[03:00] <buu> al_la: I have faith in you
[03:00] <Mathias> is it possible to list x screens?
[03:05] <wolfzrat> hello fellow ubuntu folks
[03:06] <Duel-Travis> NickServ  identify f8tbikeco
[03:06] <cyberputz> fail
[03:06] <cyberputz> :D
[03:06] <Duel-Travis> lol right
[03:07] <wolfzrat> do you guys know the ubuntu channel
[03:07] <DasEi> wolfzrat: this is ?!
[03:07] <Beldar> wolfzrat, no where is it?
[03:08] <wolfzrat> i got it its #ubuntustudio
[03:12] <bajrang> hi
[03:14] <leptone> im updating to 12.1. im asked to select lightdm or gdm when prompted with "configuring lightdm" which should i choose?
[03:15] <daftykins> leptone: probably lightdm, but if it breaks, just "dpkg-reconfigure lightdm" to repick
[03:15] <mana5ikana> lightdm
[03:15] <leptone> ty
[03:26] <hans_henrik> id like to execute a script whenever the OOM-killer has finished, id also like to know exactly what the oom-killer just did, any easy way to do that? (that doesn't include patching the kernel)
[03:26] <schaaaf> hey guys i have a question: i want to install dev-libs for compiling but i cant because a virtual package is blocking it :(
[03:28] <schaaaf> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Build_A_Simulator_Manually : "Editor's note 2: There can only be one libgl development package installed at the time. If there are any conflicts, remove (purge) the installed package and retry. "
[03:29] <schaaaf> i have tried removing it but it wont work :(
[03:29] <somsip> hans_henrik: easy way? Grep the syslog periodically and take some action if you get a matching OOM in the last period. Probably not the best way though
[03:29] <hans_henrik> No, but i like it!
[03:30] <hans_henrik> somsip, thanks
[03:30] <Mathias> this lightdm shenanigans is driving me insane :(
[03:30] <hans_henrik> whats wrong with lightdm? i use it with lxde and im pretty happy about it
[03:31] <hans_henrik> (tho ive only been using it for 2-3 weeks)
[03:31] <Mathias> it denies me to log in <.<
[03:31] <hans_henrik> lol
[03:31] <hans_henrik> ok i see how that could be annoying
[03:31] <Mathias> just restarts the greeter
[03:31] <Mathias> third time on this install
[03:31] <Mathias> and i still have no idea on what's happening
[03:31] <Mathias> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554422/
[03:32] <hans_henrik> my tsundere laptop greets me every day with "Disk I/O erorr;", refuse to boot until i sweettalk with it;  then it goes "Oh, its only you..LOCKED", then a password, then its all like "welcome back!"
[03:32] <Mathias> "password please. correct password! now go to the next login and do the same"
[03:33] <somsip> hans_henrik: then you may like this too http://is.gd/orFnPR It's not great but it gives something to start from
[03:36] <fxprob> Hi. I use ubuntu server 12 and MySQL randomly crashed. All i found is this in syslog http://pastebin.com/Qic1ePif
[03:36] <fxprob> Why is that happened? What is wrong with server?
[03:37] <somsip> fxprob: check /var/log/mysql/error.log
[03:37] <fxprob> its empty
[03:37] <fxprob> there /var/log/mysql.log
[03:37] <fxprob> 0byte
[03:37] <somsip> fxprob: make sure your my.cnf is setup to write to that log, restart mysql, make it crash, check the log again
[03:38] <somsip> fxprob: and read which log I suggested you look at
[03:38] <fxprob> there is no such file in /var/log/mysql, there only mariadb-bin.index, mariadb-bin.state and alot mariadb-bin.0000[numbers]
[03:38] <fxprob> and yes, i use MariaDB
[03:39] <somsip> !info mariadb
[03:39] <somsip> fxprob: where did you get it from?
[03:40] <fxprob> here https://downloads.mariadb.org/mariadb/repositories/#mirror=coreix&distro=Ubuntu&distro_release=precise&version=10.0
[03:41] <fxprob> so its problem because not original MySQL?
[03:41] <somsip> fxprob: so that's a PPA which is not supported here. I suggest you try #mysql (or #mariadb if that is right), but as I said before, check your my.cnf (if there is one with mariadb) and make sure the logs are setup and then try to get some output you can use to troubleshoot.
[03:42] <fxprob> logs is disabled by default with comments like its slows down everything
[03:42] <fxprob> but okay, thank you
[03:43] <somsip> fxprob: that will be general log file. You need the error log file to be enabled
[03:43] <fxprob> ># Be aware that this log type is a performance killer.
[03:43] <fxprob> that what its says near #general_log_file        = /var/log/mysql/mysql.log
[03:43] <hans_henrik> somsip, yeah, thanks again ^^ that should help me get started
[03:43] <somsip> fxprob: you need to read what I'm saying, and you really need to go to a channel that is for mariadb support
[03:44] <somsip> hans_henrik: np
[03:44] <fxprob> yes, thank you
[03:44] <slayer91790> So I'm guessing that log should only be enabled when troubleshooting?
[03:44] <Sgp667> hey does anyone know how can i stop ubuntu from using loopback to contact DNS servers?
[03:44] <somsip> slayer91790: I always enable the error log. I don't think I've ever used the general log
[03:45] <Sgp667> because this will probabily not work
[03:45] <slayer91790> Ahh...got ya
[03:45] <energizer> Hello, I have very inconsistent wifi connection. Help please!
[03:46] <schaaaf> energizer: any errors in your error log?
[03:47] <energizer> ehh how do i check?
[03:48] <schaaaf> use the log viewer or check your sys.log in /var/log/
[03:48] <energizer> and what am i looking for
[03:48] <energizer> in the viewer
[03:48] <schaaaf> errors with your wifi
[03:49] <schaaaf> the syslog
[03:50] <energizer> ive got a lot going on with wlan1, not sure if anything is an error
[03:50] <energizer> would it say "ERROR" or something?
[03:50] <schaaaf> maybe paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:50] <Mathias> AHA! X segfaults
[03:51] <energizer> schaaaf: is there likely anything (keys?) in there that i shouldn't have on the internet?
[03:52] <schaaaf> probably not
[03:53] <energizer> schaaaf: http://pastebin.com/Z8UJyUQK
[03:53] <schaaaf> another approach would be searching after your ubuntu version number plus your vendor
[03:55] <energizer> do you see anything interesting in the log?
[03:56] <schaaaf> is your dhcp configured correctly?
[03:58] <energizer> schaaaf: there actually does seem to be somthing up with dhcp, though im not sure if the dhcp problem is the cause or the symptom
[03:58] <osubuntu> Hello I am an Ubuntu user.
[03:59] <energizer> schaaaf: im gonna mess with dhcp for a second and see if something changes. i'll need to restart.
[04:00] <osubuntu> If the computer is crashed, does Alt+SysRq+S work?
[04:00] <osubuntu> The synchronize command
[04:01] <osubuntu> But not a kernel panic which makes Caps Lock led delicator blink
[04:02] <Orioa> anyone know what the ubuntu help channel is
[04:03] <leptone> hello idk what just happened my ubuntu 12.04 seems to have kinda crashed. the dock on the left of the screen in missing and i cant alt+tab thro my open processes
[04:03] <leptone> one of the processes was updating to 12.1 so id rather not reboot
[04:03] <somsip> leptone: this might help http://askubuntu.com/questions/38579/how-do-i-restart-an-unity-session-from-the-terminal
[04:04] <bigbadben> leptone, seems like unity crashed are there any error messages?
[04:04] <matthew__> hi.. I tried upgrading to Ubuntu 13.10 but something is misconfigured.  My lightdm keeps crashing and sending me into low graphics mode.  So I can't run X windows.
[04:05] <osubuntu> Do you have invalid xorg.conf?
[04:06] <matthew__> hah hah if I knew that I wouldn't be here.  How do I check?
[04:06] <leptone> ran this command unity &> /dev/null & disown no help
[04:08] <matthew__> Is that supposed to be & or &&?
[04:09] <Mathias> is it better to reinstall to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 than to do it the usual way?
[04:09] <somsip> Mathias: some people swear by reinstalling. Others upgrade with no problems.
[04:10] <leptone> non of them are working
[04:10] <leptone> the command runs the monitor flashes and then same situatio
[04:10] <Mathias> oh btw, should i reinstall nvidia drivers after the upgrade?
[04:11] <Mathias> somsip: i've had a mixed experience with the usual way
[04:11] <buu> Mathias: How did you install them in the first place?
[04:12] <Mathias> buu: using the binary from nvidia's website
[04:12] <buu> Then yes.
[04:12] <Mathias> and i ran out of free space on /boot during the upgrade, lol
[04:12] <atomic-ant> hello, do you know games for ubuntu?
[04:12] <energizer1> schaaaf: So on my router, i have set this MAC address to <IP_ADDRESS>. I'm connected to a Range Extender (which is connected to the router). My desktop has IP <IP_ADDRESS>. When I disconnect from the Extender, I get <IP_ADDRESS>, but my signal strength is low, of course.
[04:13] <schaaaf> atomic-ant: check playdeb.net
[04:14] <schaaaf> energizer1: hmmm doesn't sound like a too stable setup in general... but sorry i got to go to bed... good night
[04:15] <peyam> hi, I need a program that makes a serie of .png files into pdf..
[04:15] <energizer1> shit
[04:15] <buu> peyam: imagemagick?
[04:15] <energizer1> peyam use "convert" in the terminal
[04:15] <energizer1> (part of imagemagick)
[04:15] <peyam> energizer1, I dont have imagick. they are 26 png pictures
[04:16] <energizer1> peyam do you know how to use the terminal
[04:16] <buu> peyam: Well, do it by hand then
[04:16] <atomic-ant> schmidtm, thank you
[04:16] <peyam> energizer1, yes, never convert picture in terminal though
[04:16] <Mathias> bye bye 68 days of uptime :(
[04:17] <buu> peyam: so install imagemagick then convert
[04:17] <energizer1> peyam. you should install imagemagick. Enter terminal, type "sudo apt-get install imagemagick". Press enter. It will ask for your password. Type it, press enter.
[04:17] <buu> How is this complicated
[04:18] <peyam> energizer1, yes. and how to convert so many picture in terminal?
[04:18] <energizer1> one step at a time, brother
[04:18] <buu> energizer1: Do range extenders send on the mac address when you connect to it?
[04:18] <buu> peyam: convert *.png ihateyou.pdf
[04:18] <energizer1> buu i think there's something going on with an "internnal" and an "external" mac
[04:18] <energizer1> buu subtle
[04:19] <buu> thanks
[04:19] <peyam> buu I want to convert al .png files into ONE pdf file
[04:19] <buu> I am a king of subtlety. And being humble.
[04:19] <buu> peyam: And what I just said does that.
[04:19] <atomic-ant> schaaaf, thank you
[04:19] <energizer1> atomic-ant: schaaaf is gone
[04:19] <peyam> so it is convert a.png 2.png .. Ihateyou.pdf?
[04:19] <phong_> hi guys
[04:20] <buu> energizer1: How can you have an internal mac?
[04:21] <buu> Also phong had the world's coolest photoshop tutorials back in the day.
[04:21] <phong_> peyam, hey man, OT, i nknow, but just curriuos, what is the term where guys tide ...so that women won't get pregnant.
[04:21] <phong_> i really forget the term.
[04:21] <atomic-ant> energizer1, thank you
[04:21] <peyam> idk
[04:21] <buu> phong_: .. tide?
[04:21] <umopapIsdn> How can I join #ubuntu?
[04:21] <umopapIsdn> Oh sory I already joined :/
[04:21] <somsip> buu: please do not feed the troll
[04:21] <phong_> buu, yeah so that women dont get pregnant
[04:21] <phong_> i just forgot the term
[04:22] <buu> somsip: Its inflaming my curiosity
[04:22] <buu> somsip: what oculd he possibly mean?
[04:22] <phong_> i want to do a research on it before i have it done
[04:22] <somsip> !ot | phong_
[04:22] <somsip> umopapIsdn: you are in it
[04:22] <phong_> somsip, i know man
[04:22] <energizer1> phong_: This is not the appropriate forum for discussing vasectomies.
[04:22] <phong_> can anyone pm me?
[04:22] <somsip> buu: take it private if you want to know
[04:22] <phong_> energizer1, i think i got your term
[04:23] <phong_> thanks energizer1
[04:23] <phong_> brb
[04:24] <energizer1> buu maybe im confused -- its been a while since ive messed with wifi. There's an internal and external something, thought it was MAC; maybe its IP
[04:24] <energizer1> (obviosuly theres an internal/external ip to the network, but i mean specifically for the range extender)
[04:25] <energizer1> no problem peyam
[04:25] <atomic-ant> hello someone of you makes videos for youtube?
[04:25] <somsip> !info gtk-recordmydesktop | atomic-ant
[04:26] <energizer1> Anybody seen varunendra in here?
[04:41] <technoviking> ಠ_ಠ
[04:49] <macs> Can anyone help me connect to WiFi on my laptop? It works on my phone and its a problem that just emerged after updating Ubuntu
[04:53] <macs> #linux
[04:53] <macs> Can anyone help me get WiFi on my laptop that I get on my phone?
[04:58] <luminous> hello! what do you do when you can't find a package that ought to be there?
[04:58] <somsip> luminous: which one?
[04:59] <luminous> I've added to sources.list: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main
[04:59] <luminous> looking for msmtp
[04:59] <somsip> luminous: and...which package?
[04:59] <somsip> luminous: k - laaag
[04:59] <somsip> !info msmtp
[04:59] <luminous> and offlineimap
[05:00] <somsip> luminous: pretty sure I installed them both from official repos
[05:00] <somsip> !info offlineimap
[05:00] <luminous> somsip: this is from inside a docker container for 12.04
[05:01] <somsip> luminous: no idea what that means. But looks like you need universe and extras enabled. Not sure if just 'main' covers that
[05:01] <lickalott> gents, I had to run out before.  Did anyone comment on my issue? i can't even boot the disk now.  At this point I'm pretty sure it's either a grub or mbr issue and i don't want to deal with that.  So i figured i would just mount the partition with my data on it and get some stuff.  Then - fresh install.  Turns out my sda5 (linux LVM) doesn't have a partition table so it won't mount.  i've tried
[05:01] <lickalott> lvm2 and all the associated commands but it refuses to mount.
[05:01] <luminous> somsip: seems like only universe was needed
[05:01] <luminous> thanks for helping me sort it out
[05:02] <somsip> luminous: np. what client will you be using as a matter of interest?
[05:03] <luminous> somsip: I'm testing out sup, a ruby client - http://supmua.org/
[05:03] <somsip> luminous: k. I have some blog posts about setting these up with mutt, if you think they might be helpful?
[05:03] <Andreas_>  /server irc.nyi.net
[05:04] <luminous> somsip: yea, likely :)
[05:04] <somsip> luminous: k - fwiw http://is.gd/hudMlP
[05:06] <luminous> thanks! somsip
[05:06] <somsip> luminous: np
[05:12] <TeHHerzog> http://www.twitch.tv/tehherzog
[05:14] <lickalott> anyone?
[05:15] <aeon-ltd> lickalott: nope
[05:15] <aeon-ltd> lickalott: did you have a question?
[05:15] <lickalott> hey aeon-ltd
[05:16] <lickalott> yeah
[05:16] <lickalott> was wondering if anyone had any ideas for me to access the LVM partition on my messed up boot
[05:16] <lickalott> drive
[05:16] <aeon-ltd> how messed up?
[05:17] <lickalott>  i can't even boot the disk now.  At this point I'm pretty sure it's either a grub or mbr issue and i don't want to deal with that.  So i figured i would just mount the partition with my data on it and get some stuff.  Then - fresh install.  Turns out my sda5 (linux LVM) doesn't have a partition table so it won't mount.  i've tried lvm2 and all the associated commands but it refuses to mount
[05:17] <lickalott> .
[05:19] <Foxhoundz> Ubuntu doesn't see my Windows partition
[05:19] <Foxhoundz> instead tries to force me to wipe the entire drive
[05:19] <Foxhoundz> when I'm first installing from live USB
[05:19] <Foxhoundz> what gives?
[05:21] <leptone> is it a bad idea to use the update-manager -d GUI to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04?
[05:21] <leptone> i read that it is better to go from 12.10 to 13.10 then from 12.1 to 13.04 to 13.10
[05:22] <lickalott> that's kind of why i'm in the position i'm in leptone
[05:22] <lickalott> after I upgraded to 13.04 my entire FS was read-only
[05:22] <leptone> lickalott, sorry whats your position and how did you get there?
[05:22] <leptone> ok so i should go straight to 13.1
[05:23] <lickalott> i have join/part turned off.  did you just join?
[05:23] <leptone> join what?
[05:23] <leptone> this channel
[05:23] <lickalott> this chan
[05:23] <leptone> ?
[05:23] <lickalott> just so I know if I should "point up" or repaste my issue
[05:23] <leptone> aaa yeah but ive been on and off periodically tonight
[05:24] <lickalott> i just posted about 5 mins ago
[05:24] <leptone> repaste plz
[05:25] <Villiska> Is 13.04 ubuntu more stable than 13.10? im new
[05:25] <supergauntlet> if you want stability get 12.04
[05:25] <supergauntlet> or wait for 14.04, that's the next LTS
[05:25] <lickalott> LVM issues.  After I upgraded and realized the fs was read-only I ran a fsck.  that made things worse and now it won't boot.  the repair boot program doesn't see grub.  so... i figured i'd just mount my data partition, pull some stuff off of it and rebuild.  it's not a simple task to mount an lvm partition especially if it doesn't have a parition table
[05:26] <Villiska> What are 12.10/13.04/13.10 considered then?
[05:26] <lickalott> I would stick with 12.04 for the lts leptone (but that's me)
[05:26] <Villiska> betas or something?
[05:26] <Villiska> If I use 12.04, would I want to use the latest kernel or stick with 3.2?
[05:26] <supergauntlet> they're just regular releases
[05:26] <lickalott> non long term support releases.  You may get 9 months of support for 13.04
[05:26] <supergauntlet> well you could go a new kernel
[05:26] <supergauntlet> but you'd be giving up stability
[05:27] <Villiska> I'm just having an extremely frustrating problem with my graphics card or something and the only distro out of like 10 that works perfectly
[05:27] <Villiska> is ubuntu 13.10 unity
[05:27] <Villiska> but its too buggy
[05:27] <Villiska> programs act up too much
[05:28] <lickalott> btw: aeon-ltd (disregard the fedora mentions) i did this - http://linux-sxs.org/storage/fedora2ubuntu.html
[05:28] <Foxhoundz> someone must know!
[05:28] <supergauntlet> Yeah my GPU has decided it likes falling off the bus
[05:28] <leptone> Villiska, 13.1 is the only distro that solves ur graphics problem but is very buggy?
[05:28] <supergauntlet> optimus on linux is still a ways away from working perfectly
[05:28] <lickalott> Foxhoundz you're not doing it right.  what tut are you following?
[05:28] <lickalott> i've done it a dozen times and never had issues
[05:29] <Villiska> leptone:  want me to explain my problem?
[05:29] <Villiska> because ive searched everywhere and ive found no resolution
[05:29] <leptone> villiska, no i was just trying to get straight wha u said
[05:30] <Villiska> Well
[05:30] <leptone> lickalott, so u are currently running 13.04 and your file system is read only, currently?
[05:30] <Foxhoundz> lickalott: no tut.
[05:30] <lickalott> true leptone
[05:30] <Villiska> On every distro I've tried, all *buntu, i've installed it just to find that it's laggy, screen tearing and it's not smooth at all. Even though it should be.
[05:30] <Villiska> However, Ubuntu 13.10 with Unity always installs with perfect smoothness and speed
[05:30] <lickalott> Foxhoundz I'd peruse the ubuntu forums for a good walkthrough.
[05:31] <lickalott> you should be gtg after that
[05:31] <Villiska> but it's buggy in terms of programs and stuff
[05:31] <leptone> lickalott, os there no conveint way to go back to your previous distro?
[05:31] <leptone> *is there
[05:32] <knightshade> Hello
[05:32] <cfhowlett> knightshade, greetings
[05:33] <lickalott> not now leptone
[05:33] <leptone> what do u mean "not now"
[05:34] <leptone> like not that youve found
[05:34] <leptone> or not now, that something is perventing you but usually it would be yes?
[05:34] <leptone> lickalott, hve you tried upgrading to 13.10?
[05:35] <lickalott> not
[05:35] <lickalott> *no
[05:35] <leptone> try it
[05:35] <leptone> run update-manager -d
[05:35] <leptone> in terminal
[05:35] <lickalott> i need some files before I do.  if I try to upgrade now it will overwrite all my shit
[05:35] <lickalott> it won't boot homey
[05:36] <cfhowlett> lickalott, language please ...
[05:36] <lickalott> i'm using a live CD just to see if I can get the thing mounted
[05:36] <lickalott> oh...
[05:36] <lickalott> sorry
[05:36] <lickalott> *stuff
[05:36] <leptone> language?
[05:36] <lickalott> i said the s word
[05:36] <leptone> oh
[05:36] <cfhowlett> this IS a family friendly channel, so .... :)
[05:36] <leptone> i thought he was tlkin bout "homey"
[05:36] <lickalott> lol
[05:36] <lickalott> noted
[05:36] <FriendlySeal> is it?
[05:37] <leptone> lol
[05:37] <FriendlySeal> im frenly
[05:37] <leptone> lickalott, have you tried booting into recovery mode?
[05:37] <impradeepy> ./msg nickserv identify ihappy
[05:37] <lickalott> i actually just booted suse because some of the forums said they had better luck with that, mounting lvm
[05:37] <lickalott> whoops
[05:37] <leptone> lickalott, how to you upgrade btw?
[05:37] <lickalott> yeah,
[05:37] <leptone> what did you do and what were u on before?
[05:38] <lickalott> apt-get upgrade
[05:38] <lickalott> 12.10 > 13.04
[05:38] <cfhowlett> lickalott, apt-get upgrade will not move you from 12.10 to 13.04  ... different command required.
[05:38] <leptone> apt-get upgrade
[05:38] <leptone> ?
[05:38] <leptone> just like that
[05:38] <LinDol> hi
[05:38] <LinDol> : )
[05:38] <leptone> ?
[05:39] <lickalott> something simliar.  Last time I logged in (im running server) it said that there is an upgrade and type "this" to accomplish it.
[05:39] <lickalott> so i did
[05:40] <leptone> not: apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:40] <leptone> ?
[05:40] <lickalott> might have been
[05:41] <cfhowlett> dist-upgrade will upgrade the CURRENT distro to the most current packages.  it will NOT upgrade the distro!
[05:41] <lickalott> it ran for a while (hour or so) then popped up, after a reboot, with a big fat 13.04 on it
[05:41] <leptone> hmm
[05:41] <leptone> well ima try it using the software updater and hopefully ill brb
[05:41] <leptone> wish me luck!
[05:42] <lickalott> gl
[05:44] <Mathias> apparently networking (or openvpn) gets killed somewhere in do-release-upgrade :o
[05:49] <leptone> hey lickalott before i go. if you can boot to recovery mode, if not try changing your grub setting, try running the "repair broken packages" option
[05:49] <FriendlySeal> hay lickalottmybutt
[05:49] <leptone> when i was updating from 12.04 to 12.1 unity crashed in the middle and i couldnt get it to come back so i had to reboot
[05:50] <shams> hi, i am new to ubuntu, have problem if somebody can help, i can not login, when login screen comes after some times, i enter the password it goes to a screen with nVidia logo i press Esc again back to login screen. i think its graphic driver problem how do i fix it thanks.
[05:50] <FriendlySeal> shams, open this
[05:50] <leptone> 12.1 was already installed but missing a bunch so it tried to reboot to 12.1 but was unable to
[05:50] <leptone> then i ran that from the recovery mode it took a long time but it worked after that
[05:50] <FriendlySeal> mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[05:51] <FriendlySeal> i mean move it
[05:51] <shams> FriendlySeal, sorry i am new to this chat too, what should i open .
[05:51] <FriendlySeal> after u boot back in then try looking at the conf
[05:52] <FriendlySeal> move that file
[05:52] <FriendlySeal> so u can log in ur OS
[05:52] <FriendlySeal> for now
[05:52] <lickalott> see leptone.....
[05:52] <lickalott> not as easy as they make it out to be
[05:52] <FriendlySeal> lickalott, wats not easy
[05:53] <shams> FriendlySeal, got it thank i will try that.
[05:53] <leptone> lickalott, FriendlySeal , yeah whats not easy?
[05:54] <lickalott> oh wait...yours worked?
[05:54] <lickalott> you're up and running on 12.1
[05:54] <lickalott> but after recovery mode and a few steps
[05:54] <lickalott> right?
[05:54] <FriendlySeal> pst install mint
[05:55] <FriendlySeal> beter yet jus go right to debian
[05:55] <DWTaylor> just gentoo that box and be done
[05:55] <FriendlySeal> wheezy is about as easy as ubuntu now
[05:56] <FriendlySeal> but then again i know business web server runing ubuntu server
[05:56] <FriendlySeal> linux is prety sweet
[05:57] <leptone> lickalott, yes after some work. but really it was only bc my unity crashed while i was doing the install and i wanted to continue to use my comp so i rebooted it bc i couldnt get unity to relaunch from terminal. if unity hadnt crashed i assume it would have gone without a hitch and it was an easy fix anyway
[05:57] <leptone> lickalott, are you able to boot your comp
[05:57] <FriendlySeal> lol
[05:58] <lickalott> with a live CD.  not with the hdd
[05:58] <leptone> ok and there is stuff on there you dont wanna loose right
[05:58] <leptone> ?
[05:59] <leptone> on ur hdd
[05:59] <lickalott> true
[05:59] <lickalott> i think i'm finally getting somewhere though.
[05:59] <FriendlySeal> why dont u idiots partition ur drives
[05:59] <FriendlySeal> gah
[05:59] <FriendlySeal> i have a 128G ssd
[05:59] <leptone> well that was mean
[05:59] <FriendlySeal> and im able to tripple boot
[05:59] <lickalott> i relabeled the partition linux vs Linux LVM and fsck is running now.
[05:59] <FriendlySeal> osx windows and 2 linuxes
[06:00] <lickalott> my drive is partitioned weiner head, the partitions are bad (no partition tables)
[06:00] <leptone> lickalott, when you boot from ur hdd do you get to the grub menu?
[06:00] <DWTaylor> I spit out my beer laughing at "weiner head."
[06:00] <lickalott> lol
[06:01] <lickalott> i already got yelled at for swearing so i figure I best keep it G-rated
[06:01] <jmgk> hi all
[06:01] <ObrienDave> somehow, I don't think I would have been that nice
[06:01] <jmgk> hi impradeepy
[06:01] <leptone> lickalott, do you make it to the purple grub menu whenbooting from ur hdd
[06:01] <leptone> ?
[06:02] <leptone> or do not even get that far?
[06:02] <lickalott> before....yeah leptone but when I hit boot to ubuntu and/or recovery it would take me to the initfs prompt (or whatever it was)
[06:02] <lickalott> not anymore
[06:02] <leptone> so u are able to boot properly now?
[06:02] <lickalott> neg
[06:02] <lickalott> you know whats painful??
[06:02] <leptone> or you dont get the grub menu anymore lickalott ?
[06:03] <lickalott> forgetting to throw the -y in on an fsck
[06:03] <lickalott> no leptone
[06:03] <lickalott> doesn't boot anymore
[06:03] <leptone> what did u between when u were getting grub and now where ur getting nothing?
[06:04] <leptone> lickalott, ^
[06:04] <lickalott> fsck and a reboot
[06:04] <leptone> so what happens when you boot ur comp
[06:05] <leptone> just stright to black screen
[06:05] <lickalott> hangs
[06:05] <leptone> nothing else?
[06:05] <lickalott> pretty much
[06:05] <FriendlySeal> hangs where
[06:05] <FriendlySeal> leme fix this crap
[06:05] <FriendlySeal> move aside idiots
[06:05] <lickalott> it hangs low and to the left
[06:05] <FriendlySeal> weres the problem?
[06:06] <lickalott> it doesn't boot.
[06:06] <leptone> do u have an external hard drive on hand large enough to hold the stuff u want off ur hdd/an image of ur hdd
[06:06] <leptone> lickalott, ^
[06:06] <FriendlySeal> were does it hang?
[06:06] <Jordan_U> lickalott: What exactly do you see at boot?
[06:06] <Guest98047> Hello
[06:06] <FriendlySeal> take a screenshot
[06:06] <FriendlySeal> jkjk
[06:06] <FriendlySeal> lol
[06:06] <lickalott> i'm not worried about that anymore FriendlySeal.  i just want to mount the LVM partition and get some files off
[06:06] <leptone> lol this guy^
[06:06] <Quigybobo> Can anyone help me with a teamspeak 3 issue that I am having?
[06:06] <lickalott> yea leptone I have a 1tb drive slaved in just in case I can get it mounted
[06:07] <Quigybobo> I am fairly new to linux
[06:07] <DWTaylor> I agree with the external hard drive suggestion.  Use the live CD, backup your files to an external drive, and then do a clean install.
[06:07] <lickalott> It being the bad drive
[06:07] <FriendlySeal> boot with a usb stick
[06:07] <FriendlySeal> then mount the drive
[06:07] <leptone> lickalott, dude boot from the live dirk you have. then plug in the external drive copy your file system over to it. or just all u want
[06:07] <leptone> then reinstall ubuntu from ur live disk.
[06:08] <lickalott> its still running through the fsck via suse.  I'll see if that works.
[06:08] <leptone> then do ur update the way i did and then move ur files back
[06:08] <lickalott> I appreciate the help, I really do! But I think you guys are missing the issue
[06:08] <Jordan_U> lickalott: What is the exact fsck command you ran?
[06:08] <lickalott> fsck -y /dev/mapper/Silentkiller-root
[06:08] <Quigybobo> I've looked at all the teamspeak 3 help forums. Tried everything that they say so far and I can't figure out why my program won't execute.
[06:10] <lickalott> the LVM partition that i want access to doesn't have a partition table so i can't mount it.  I've been at this all day (various googles, etc...) and can't seem to get it to mount.  It says something like it's has the wrong fs, it's read only, etc....etc...
[06:11] <lickalott> so I ran the SUSE live cd.  fsck'd the parition and rebooted and it's hanging after post.
[06:13] <DWTaylor> lickalott: Did all this happen after an upgrade?
[06:13] <lickalott> true Dwarf
[06:13] <FriendlySeal> boot from usb stick
[06:13] <lickalott> DWTaylor
[06:13] <FriendlySeal> then just look at what u did to ur harddrive
[06:13] <lickalott> i've done that, and tried to fix/reverse it.
[06:14] <lickalott> i'm out of options, which is why i'm here soliciting the assistance of the big brains
[06:14] <DWTaylor> Could it be a failing hard drive?  Missed how the problem began (sorry).
[06:15] <lickalott> could be.   but I didn't see any signs of that prior to the upgrade
[06:15] <DWTaylor> lickalott: Yea...if it happened right after upgrading, then the drive is probably OK.
[06:16] <Jordan_U> lickalott: What is the output of "sudo mount /dev/mapper/Silentkiller-root /mnt/"? Is the S.M.A.R.T. status of the drive good?
[06:17] <lickalott> i've actually been upgraded for about 2 weeks.  i went in to check the pics from my motion cameras and realized that it hadn't been ftp'ing them to the server for about 2 weeks.  So i deduced that it was because of the upgrade.  I dug in a little and found that the entire filesystem was read-only, to include my mounted hard drives.  So I rebooted, just to see.  And no change.  So I stared
[06:17] <lickalott> googling and found that some had results with an fsck.  So i did that.  it didn't finish and locked up the machine (left it running all night and it stopped about 15 mins after I left).  When i rebooted all this started.
[06:17] <lickalott> gotta give me a min Jordan_U, i'm booting into the live CD att
[06:18] <lickalott> it's an old 500gb ide drive.  not sure if smart applies does it?
[06:18] <Jordan_U> lickalott: For the record, your statement "the LVM partition that i want access to doesn't have a partition table so i can't mount it." doesn't make any sense. Logical volumes very rarely have partition tables, and when they do it's almost always because it's an LV containing a disk image used for a virtual machine.
[06:19] <DF3D2> having a hard time doing a usb install on a machine I just built, i5 3570k -- z77 motherboard. It just hangs at a purple screen. I googled and it said use nomodeset, I did that now it is just hanging with a blinking _
[06:20] <DF3D2> I did verify the md5 of the download
[06:22] <lickalott> oh?
[06:23] <lickalott> wonder why I can't mount it then.
[06:23] <Jordan_U> lickalott: What is the exact mount command you ran?
[06:23] <lickalott> mount /dev/mapper/Silentkiller-root /mnt/old
[06:23] <lickalott> alos tried -t ext4
[06:24] <lickalott> also tried -o ro,user
[06:24] <DF3D2> I can't seem to do the "verify integrity of this disk" from the menu either
[06:24] <Ben64> lickalott: whats the error
[06:24] <DF3D2> I have no idea what the issue is
[06:24] <Mathias> oh my..., now i have a too new kernel for the nvidia drivers
[06:25] <Ben64> don't install nvidia drivers manually Mathias
[06:25] <Mathias> the jockey tends to destroy my system completely
[06:25] <lickalott> tells me it's not the right FS or it's read only and some other stuff.  I'd have to go grab it if you want specifics.  my laptop battery started running out so i went and plugged it in (co located from the machine i'm working on)  Lemme go grab some info and I'll drop here in a bit.
[06:25] <Jordan_U> lickalott: If fsck said that there were errors, those errors may have caused the failure to mount.
[06:26] <lickalott> it just rebooted so i'm gonna go try again.  brb
[06:28] <DF3D2> so no one has any ideas?
[06:28] <BuntuFuntu> Anyone got any good ideas for a replacement plymouth theme to replace the default purple?
[06:28] <pvl1> i currently dont have X running, so would i be able to compile the graphics driver for the newer kernel without rebooting into  recovery under new kernel
[06:30] <Mathias> Ben64: 319 or 319_updates?
[06:30] <Ben64> Mathias: huh?
[06:31] <Mathias> let me rephrase, what's the difference between nvidia-graphics-drivers-319-updates and nvidia-graphics-drivers-319
[06:31] <DF3D2> >.<
[06:31] <lickalott> so it mounted but my lost+found directory is FULLLL of random numbered files and folders
[06:31] <DF3D2> ~_~
[06:32] <lickalott> i may just run the fsck on that entire drive and see if I can get it to boot.
[06:32] <Mathias> DF3D2: last time something similiar happened to me i had bad RAM (probably not your case). maybe gpu drivers?
[06:32] <DF3D2> Mathias, no gpu.. integrated intel (should work automatically) and the ram is fine it came out of one of my other machines
[06:33] <Ben64> DF3D2: laptop?
[06:33] <leptone> can some1 help me resolve these errors?
[06:33] <leptone> http://pastebin.com/EKGTc0pm
[06:33] <DF3D2> Ben64, desktop, i5 3570k z77 motherboard
[06:33] <DF3D2> ubuntu works fine on my new laptop :-\
[06:33] <lickalott> but....i'm on suse right now.  i wonder if I boot back into ubuntu if the files will be normal??
[06:33] <Ben64> usually that happens when you have a weird screen setup going on
[06:33] <DF3D2> Ben64, is hdmi an issue ?
[06:33] <Ben64> lickalott: probably not
[06:33] <Ben64> DF3D2: could be
[06:33] <DF3D2> I see the main menu. such as install, use live-cd
[06:34] <Mathias> DF3D2: tried booting into recovery?
[06:34] <Ben64> might need a custom xorg.conf for it
[06:34] <lickalott> leptone is that the desktop edition?
[06:34] <DF3D2> and then it just shows either a _  or a purple screen, _ if i have nomodeset set
[06:34] <DF3D2> Ben64, im re-downloading the iso even though the md5 matched, if that doesn't work i'll go get a vga screen
[06:34] <leptone> lickalott, its terminal
[06:34] <leptone> what r u asking?
[06:35] <Ben64> DF3D2: so you  have a tv hooked up via hdmi?
[06:35] <DF3D2> Ben64, yes
[06:35] <DF3D2> Ben64, to the integrated z77 hdmi port
[06:35] <Ben64> i'd bet thats the problem.... some tvs give funky info
[06:35] <lickalott> is that the keyring on the desktop release or are you trying to set something else up?
[06:35] <DF3D2> it's an LG, pretty standard usually
[06:35] <DF3D2> and I see the main menu.... i'll try a monitor tho
[06:35] <lickalott> btw:  i saw the macbookpro thing....I don't think we can be friends anymore
[06:35] <faraway> I installed ruby2 via ppa:brightbox/ruby-ng-experimental  that works just fine. Now i have listed 'libruby1.9.1 ruby1.9.1'  as 'kept back' what can i do so that these are ont listed anymore
[06:36] <leptone> ur loss
[06:36] <lickalott> lol
[06:36] <lickalott> leptone do you have update manager or synaptic running?
[06:36] <leptone> lickalott, idk what "keyring on the desktop release" is but i dont think that is what i am doing im trying to install a ppa so i can watch netflix
[06:36] <leptone> lickalott, the former
[06:37] <lickalott> log out and log back in and try again
[06:37] <lickalott> ^serious
[06:37] <leptone> y?
[06:37] <Ben64> just close update manager
[06:37] <leptone> its in the middle of installing 13.04
[06:37] <Ben64> that error message is because something else is using apt
[06:37] <lickalott> or just close it.....lol
[06:37] <lickalott> if that doesn't work try this sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
[06:37] <lickalott> sudo apt-get update
[06:37] <Ben64> you're trying to install stuff from ppa while installing ubuntu?
[06:38] <Ben64> bad idea
[06:38] <FriendlySeal> does netflix work on linux
[06:38] <leptone> ahh well ill do that after the upgrade is finished
[06:38] <Ben64> !netflix
[06:38] <FriendlySeal> shit
[06:38] <Ben64> watch the language
[06:38] <FriendlySeal> coz silverlight is a pos
[06:39] <leptone> appears to be the same as this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfte5su5DIA
[06:40] <ezra_> I need to get into ubuntu support chat
[06:40] <ezra_> how do I get there...its invite only
[06:40] <michael_> random question guys: is it worth using the ftp program in terminal or should i go ahead and download filezilla?
[06:40] <Ben64> ezra_: you're in it right now
[06:40] <ezra_> whats the point of that...
[06:40] <ezra_> oh
[06:40] <ezra_> <#
[06:40] <ezra_> <3
[06:40] <FloodBot1> ezra_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:41] <kostkon> FriendlySeal, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/pipelight-020-released-with-multi.html
[06:41] <ezra_> I need help with teamspeak 3 install support. I've looked at videos and read forums but nothing seems to work.
[06:41] <ccmonster> Everytime i try to run this live usb i get to the ubuntu loading splash screen then it goes black
[06:41] <ezra_> It just won't load up for me.
[06:41] <ccmonster> No idea what to do
[06:42] <guest|27551> does anyone know how to turn of VLC cover art fetching?
[06:42] <BuntuFuntu> Is the Ubuntu loading splash screen customizable?
[06:42] <Mathias> \o/, upgrading 13.10 fixed the lightdm/X login bug :D
[06:42] <guest|27551> *turn off
[06:42] <BuntuFuntu> I want to atleast change the default purple to black but I can't because I don't have the necessary permission
[06:43] <ccmonster> Any ideas
[06:43] <BuntuFuntu>  Does anyone know how I can give myself the necessary permission to edit the plymouth file and change the purple to black?
[06:44] <Mathias> guest|27551: settings > show settings = all > playlist > album art policy = manual
[06:44] <buu> BuntuFuntu: sudo
[06:44] <BuntuFuntu> Yes but what command do I use to edit the file I want to edit
[06:44] <Ben64> !plymouth | BuntuFuntu
[06:45] <kostkon> BuntuFuntu, sudo nano path_to_file
[06:45] <guest|27551> thanks Mathias ...
[06:45] <lickalott> well, I think i'm better off that I was this morning...  at least I will have my files, even though I'll have to scroll through 500gb of random stuff...   better than nothing.
[06:45] <lickalott> thanks for listening/helping fellas
[06:45] <lickalott> gnight
[06:46] <ezra_> I just started on linux today...there is so much to learn...but it is so much better than windows...
[06:46] <ezra_> I just wish my teamspeak 3 would work lol
[06:46] <guest|27551> where is "settings"
[06:46] <guest|27551> ?
[06:46] <ezra_> You can get to it in the top right corner i think
[06:47] <ezra_> "System settings" don't quote me on that though I could be wrong lol
[06:47] <DF3D2> Ben64, i think the file system got all screwed up on the usb stick, so it might work now I whiped all partitions etc off it and dd'ed the iso back
[06:47] <DF3D2> if not ill grab a monitor
[06:48] <Mathias> ezra_: teamspeak tends to be a little, uhm, cranky. unfortunately
[06:48] <guest|27551> where is "show settings"??
[06:49] <BuntuFuntu> Ezra_ Your right about the location of how to get to the system settings
[06:49] <BuntuFuntu> Gear icon in top right corner(:
[06:50] <guest|27551> Mathias wrote this: "settings > show settings = all > playlist > album art policy = manual "
[06:50] <guest|27551> how do i get to settings show settings
[06:50] <guest|27551> ??
[06:50] <BuntuFuntu> Guest | 275511:  In top right corner there should be a gear icon. Click on that. Once you do you should see a list of options, including System Settings.
[06:53] <leptone_> so my machine is mid crash like its lagging a application movement on my desktop but everything else works fine. the lag seems to be infinite. what should i do?
[06:54] <hi-five> hi
[06:54] <guest|27551> Is there a firewall that asks you program by program what is trying to access the internet?? i need that
[06:54] <Mathias> guest|27551: bottom left corner
[06:55] <guest|27551> ?
[06:55] <guest|27551> "bottom left corner"?
[06:56] <DF3D2> Ben64, doesn't work with a monitor either, same behavior and the iso has been redownloaded+flashed
[06:56] <kostkon> ezra_, the .run file is an installer. You need to make it executable first
[06:56] <Mathias> guest|27551: bottom left corner of preferences in VLC
[06:56] <guest|27551> it says manual --- so some OTHER program is downloading clip art ... I just DO NOT KNOW WHAT!
[06:57] <guest|27551> this is so annoying
[06:57] <guest|27551> i wish i ocould see what was accessing the net
[06:58] <guest|27551> i want to control my computer's net access
[06:58] <DF3D2> guest|27551, netstat
[06:58] <BuntuFuntu> Guest |27551: Netstat
[06:58] <guest|27551> is that a download?
[06:58] <BuntuFuntu> Guest |27551: It's a terminal command
[06:59] <guest|27551> how do I structure the command
[06:59] <hi-five> BuntuFuntu lol
[07:00] <guest|27551> ok, but what is the program is latent
[07:00] <guest|27551> what if it accesses only when there is something to look for
[07:00] <guest|27551> then goes to sleep
[07:01] <guest|27551> when i run netstat it may not show up???
[07:01] <guest|27551> let's say it sees a file in need of art .. looks it up .. goes to sleep
[07:01] <guest|27551> i wish my computer would ask me ... "VLC is trying to access the internet ... allow/disallow
[07:03] <guest|27551> there is no manual program by program firewall?
[07:03] <guest|27551> "allow firefox" "allow VLC" etc ?
[07:05] <Stanley00> guest|27551: ubuntu has a firewall, called ufw, but  for ease of use, all outgoing connections are allowed
[07:05] <guest|27551> how do i reverse it for unease of use ? lol
[07:05] <Ben64> why would you want your computer harder to use?
[07:06] <mouses> what are the chances that a gmail user emails you and you reply to the mail and the reply gets sent to his spam folder?
[07:06] <mouses> somebody responded late to my email and i fired him and he claims it went to his spam
[07:06] <Ben64> mouses: not really on topic here
[07:06] <guest|27551> something is accessing the internet without my knowledge to download clip art ... i want to know everything that is accessing the internet
[07:06] <mouses> Ben64 whats the off topic ubuntu channel?
[07:07] <Stanley00> guest|27551: then, you just change the rule for ufw :D
[07:07] <Ben64> mouses: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:07] <mouses> thx
[07:07] <Ben64> guest|27551: how do you know its downloading clip art? and the only things that run are things you allow to run, so don't run things that do what you don't like?
[07:08] <guest|27551> it  IS downloaing clip art
[07:08] <cynicist> guest|27551: http://gufw.org/
[07:08] <guest|27551> i don't know what is doing it
[07:08] <guest|27551> ok i have that program
[07:08] <guest|27551> i got it beore
[07:08] <cynicist> guest|27551: you can enable logging and see what connections are outgoing
[07:08] <ezra_> Great...someone was helping me and then they time out and abandon me...
[07:08] <cynicist> guest|27551: then block what is suspicious
[07:08] <guest|27551> if i disable outgoing ... it won't ask me case by case to allow what is outgoing
[07:09] <guest|27551> it does not label the programs in an easily identifiable manner
[07:09] <Ben64> then you shouldn't run stuff you do not trust......
[07:09] <guest|27551> like VLC, firefox, etc
[07:09] <ezra_> Can anyone help me with running teamspeak 3 on ubuntu 1204 please.
[07:09] <guest|27551> Ben ... you're not helping ...
[07:09] <guest|27551> again, i don't know what is running it
[07:09] <Stanley00> guest|27551: yes, ufw does not work on program name
[07:10] <guest|27551> i know i have experienced this feature and i don't know how to use it
[07:10] <Ben64> guest|27551: then again, how do you know what its downloading if you don't even know what is downloading
[07:10] <k1l_> guest|27551: what do you mean by "clip art"
[07:10] <ezra_> Is there anyone that uses teamspeak 3 that can help another user out?
[07:10] <guest|27551> Ben please don't troll ... it is happening ... there
[07:10] <guest|27551> hope you're convincned
[07:10] <Ben64> ezra_: you'd have to find a ppa or something similar for teamspeak 3. teamspeak 2 is in the repositories
[07:11] <guest|27551> art for audio and video is being searched for and downloaded
[07:11] <Ben64> guest|27551: just tell me how you know that it is downloading "clip art" and do not throw the term "troll" around so readily. thats a great way to get no help
[07:11] <guest|27551> when i am not online it does not search it for files
[07:11] <guest|27551> sorry Ben...
[07:11] <guest|27551> i don't want to cast aspersions
[07:11] <guest|27551> but please understand i am having a real issue
[07:12] <k1l_> guest|27551: its called "scopes" you can turn all of in the privacy settings in system settings
[07:12] <guest|27551> i really don't know what is going on .. i hope you can believe thatr
[07:12] <Ben64> ezra_: use this channel for responses, don't send private messages. "A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge"
[07:12] <ezra_> Sorry about that ben.
[07:12] <k1l_> guest|27551: or you disable every single search scope in the dash itself. every single one you dont want, that is
[07:12] <Ben64> no problem
[07:12] <ezra_> Thank you ben I appreciate it.
[07:12] <Ben64> ezra_: does teamspeak 2 not work for what you want?
[07:13] <ezra_> teamspeak 2 is not compatible with teamspeak 3 servers
[07:13] <ezra_> They are to far out of date to even keep up with a teamspeak 3 server or connection
[07:13] <guest|27551> wow ... k1 i have no idea how to do that
[07:13] <guest|27551> in the dash huh?
[07:13] <guest|27551> you are speaking Latin to me
[07:14] <k1l_> guest|27551: go to system settings and disable all online searches
[07:14] <guest|27551> where? and will it allow me to single out the one's i want ... like firefox
[07:14] <k1l_> that is the full-hammer method. then you can read about what ubuntu offers you with smart scopes etc
[07:14] <cynicist> guest|27551: yeah you are right, I can't see program names in ufw, that is annoying
[07:14] <cynicist> guest|27551: you can use 'sudo lsof -i -P -n' in a terminal to get that though
[07:14] <Ben64> ezra_: what have you tried to get it working?
[07:15] <kostkon> ezra_, what's your problem exactly
[07:15] <k1l_> guest|27551: if this is not what you want, you need to give _alot_ more info and details of your problem
[07:15] <guest|27551> is scopes a download?
[07:15] <ezra_> I downloaded ts3 from the website. Installed it and tried to run the executable and that didn't work. So I ran the .sh through the terminal
[07:15] <ezra_> and that worked for a minute
[07:16] <ezra_> It opened up a window
[07:16] <ezra_> and closed it
[07:16] <k1l_> guest|27551: ok, can you make a screenshot and load it to an image hoster?
[07:16] <Ben64> ezra_: what is the file you downloaded and ran?
[07:16] <guest|27551> don't know how to do that image hoster thing .. and i dont't see how that would help
[07:16] <ezra_> Wow
[07:17] <ezra_> I know why
[07:17] <ezra_> I'm sorry I wasted your time.
[07:17] <Ben64> what was it?
[07:17] <guest|27551> the description says it all .. when online audio files do not appear as a generic thumbnail but the computer is searching for cover art
[07:17] <FriendlySeal> lol
[07:17] <ezra_> I'm an idiot and i'm using 32bit not 64 bit....I installed the wrong version of damn ubuntu
[07:17] <guest|27551> i do not know what is searching for the cover art
[07:17] <ezra_> <---trolled himself
[07:17] <Ben64> hmm
[07:17] <k1l_> guest|27551: where is that? in the audio program?
[07:18] <cynicist> guest|27551: did you try the command I mentioned?
[07:18] <k1l_> guest|27551: we cant see your desktop, so describe it waht you mean.
[07:18] <cynicist> guest|27551: it will show outbound connections along with the program making them, at least while it is doing it
[07:18] <guest|27551> what will happen with that command
[07:18] <guest|27551> will it show it live
[07:18] <k1l_> cynicist: lets wait with that until we know what he really means
[07:19] <guest|27551> or will it show a current snapshot of outbount connections
[07:19] <cynicist> guest|27551: snapshot, for live output you could use something like wireshark
[07:19] <guest|27551> i think this program activates only when something needs to be searched for ... ie album art .. then it goes to sleep
[07:19] <k1l_> guest|27551: where?
[07:19] <guest|27551> i need something to detect what is doing the downloading when it is happening
[07:19] <k1l_> guest|27551: which program are you even talking baout?
[07:20] <guest|27551> i don;'t know what the program is
[07:20] <guest|27551> or what is doing it
[07:20] <k1l_> guest|27551: describe it
[07:20] <cynicist> k1l_: oh I see, you think it may be a lense rather than a media app or whatever, since he is uncertain
[07:20] <guest|27551> that is why i want to take control like Bane said lol
[07:20] <k1l_> cynicist: yes, but he needs to make some more info
[07:21] <k1l_> guest|27551: is it the global search you are talking about?
[07:21] <guest|27551> what is the global seach
[07:21] <k1l_> guest|27551: like that? http://img.netupd8.com/unity-smart-scopes_1.png
[07:21] <guest|27551> i told yo all i know
[07:21] <cynicist> guest|27551: what makes you think it is album art that is being downloaded?
[07:21] <k1l_> guest|27551: come on. dont play dumb
[07:22] <guest|27551> guys ... visual this please
[07:22] <guest|27551> when i am offline all audio files have a generic image
[07:22] <guest|27551> when i am online some program is trying to download cover art for the audio files
[07:22] <k1l_> guest|27551: where does they have that generic images?
[07:22] <Ben64> guest|27551: you really haven't. we're all asking the same thing........ where do you see stuff being downloaded or saying its downloading or seeing a message saying its downloading or about to download or in the process of thinking about downloading?
[07:22] <k1l_> guest|27551: where?
[07:23] <guest|27551> the image icon of the audio files shows that the computer is thinking to find an appropriate image online then it downloads cover art for it
[07:23] <cynicist> guest|27551: take a screenshot of these generic images and share that so people know what you are talking about
[07:23] <k1l_> guest|27551: describe the program you see. is it the global search i just showed you an image in alink? or are you talking about a file-browser? or are you talking about the music-program?
[07:23] <guest|27551> no no
[07:24] <guest|27551> this program is operating on its own
[07:24] <k1l_> guest|27551: ok, please make a screenshot and show it here if you are not able to describe it in a appropriate manner
[07:24] <guest|27551> if i am offline all audio files including recordings have a generic music note as their icon art
[07:24] <guest|27551> when i am online something is searching for icon art based on the audio files name
[07:24] <guest|27551> does that make sense
[07:24] <k1l_> make a screenshot
[07:24] <guest|27551> i have no IDEA what is searching for it
[07:25] <k1l_> show that program to us
[07:25] <guest|27551> i don;t know what program it is
[07:25] <k1l_> make a screenshot
[07:25] <guest|27551> you don't believe me?
[07:25] <guest|27551> my description says it all
[07:26] <Ben64> no, it doesn't. we need to see what you're talking about.
[07:26] <guest|27551> i just want control of what is downloading icon art
[07:26] <guest|27551> i want control of my internet
[07:26] <k1l_> no. you descriptions is way to unspecific
[07:26] <guest|27551> i want my compter to ask me for aurhtorization when ANY program is trying to go online
[07:26] <guest|27551> including firefox
[07:26] <k1l_> make a screenshot
[07:26] <ObrienDave> guest|27551, we can't SEE what you see. help US to help YOU
[07:26] <guest|27551> i don't like it when things are going on behind the scenes and i don't know what
[07:27] <guest|27551> i am telling you what i see
[07:27] <Sebastien> why dont you just make a screenshot ?
[07:27] <Sebastien> it takes a second
[07:27] <Sebastien> and people will help you
[07:27] <Sebastien> telling us is not working for now. so lets try another way
 make a screenshot
[07:27] <ObrienDave> guest|27551, ranting will NOT get you help
[07:27] <Sebastien> ^
[07:27] <guest|27551> i have to find a fresh audio file
[07:28] <guest|27551> i don't know if it will work like that
[07:28] <guest|27551> and then captuer the screen when the computer is showing that it is finding clip art for it
[07:28] <Villiska> Hi, I'm curious if there's any way to remove the upgrade annoyance you get when using Ubuntu 13.04, to upgrade to 13.10?
[07:29] <guest|27551> i want to ask you guys a question
[07:29] <guest|27551> can you imagine this ...
[07:29] <Ben64> Villiska: well support for 13.04 ends in a month
[07:29] <Villiska> I know, but for me it's been the base release so far and I'm new
[07:29] <guest|27551> imagine that all your audio files have a generic music note as their icon art
[07:29] <Villiska> Is it possible to do it though Ben64?
[07:29] <Villiska> best* not base
[07:30] <Jordan_U> guest|27551: Are you talking about the icons in the file manager?
[07:30] <guest|27551> BUT when you are online the icon shows that the computer is thinking and downloads icon art for the files
[07:30] <Ben64> Villiska: not upgrading is not a solution. it will cause more problems down the road
[07:30] <k1l_> guest|27551: make a screenshot
[07:30] <guest|27551> no any audio or video file
[07:30] <Beldar> Villiska, run software-properties-gtk 3rd tab bottom dropdown set to for long term release.
[07:30] <Villiska> 13.10 gave me too many bugs. Bugs that I do not get from 13.04. 12.04 is too out-of-date for me so this is my pick
[07:30] <guest|27551> IF the audio or video file does not have icon art the computer will show a generic icon for it... but when online the comptuer searches for icon art for the files
[07:30] <impradeepy> use 12.04.3lts
[07:31] <Villiska> Wait, what Beldar ? I'm pretty new so I'm not sure what you mean
[07:31] <cynicist> k1l_: don't feed the troll :P
[07:31] <Ben64> Villiska: 12.04 will be updated long after 13.10 is EOL. you need to upgrade or you'll have many more problems
[07:31] <guest|27551> this includes video that i have recorded
[07:31] <Villiska> I'm using 13.04 until it dies. Can I please get help with my question?
[07:31] <mernilio> Hi all! Im banned from "ubuntu-offtopic"  :-(  I even was not so offtopic in my ways.
[07:31] <Ben64> Villiska: 13.04 dies next month, you should upgrade before then
[07:31] <Beldar> Villiska, In the terminal run  software-properties-gtk in the gui that pops up 3rd tab bottom dropdown set to for long term
[07:31] <Jordan_U> mernilio: Please join #ubuntu-ops to discuss bans.
[07:31] <k1l_> mernilio: #ubuntu-ops is the channel to talk about bans.
[07:32] <mernilio> oki thanks Jordan and k11
[07:32] <Beldar> Villiska, Take heed to the end of life warning however.
[07:33] <Villiska> Thank you very much Beldar
[07:33] <Villiska> I know, I'm using 13.04 until the final day I can honestly.
[07:33] <Villiska> Then I'll deal with 13.10's bugs, or use 12.04's oldness until 14.04
[07:34] <Jordan_U> guest|27551: Are you talking about icons shown in the file manager?
[07:34] <ObrienDave> guest|27551, one of your media players are trying to d/l album art. figure out which one and change it.
[07:34] <guest|27551> i tried and i don;t know why it did not work
[07:34] <guest|27551> bottom line: i want control of what is accessing the net
[07:35] <guest|27551> i want to view which programs are attempting access and authorize/decline authroization
[07:35] <guest|27551> is there a way to do that
[07:35] <guest|27551> is there a program for that
[07:35] <Jordan_U> guest|27551: Is there a reason that you are not answering my question?
[07:35] <ObrienDave> guest|27551, obviously you did NOT pick the correct one
[07:35] <guest|27551> do you get it Obrien????
[07:35] <guest|27551> let's say i figure out which program and disable it
[07:35] <guest|27551> that is something i KNOW about and tried to fix
[07:35] <guest|27551> what else is accessing the internet???
[07:36] <DX099> hello all, I've been running Ubuntu 12.04 fine on my laptop when I decided to upgrade to 13.04, but right now, desktop is slow and sluggish as hell
[07:36] <Ben64> if you just posted a screenshot we could tell you what program it is
[07:36] <guest|27551> why should i not control what is accessing the internet?
[07:36] <guest|27551> do you get it?
[07:36] <DX099> can someone tell what could have happened ?
[07:36] <guest|27551> Ben, actually this particular situation is beyond the point, i want control of my internet access
[07:36] <guest|27551> that is the bottom line
[07:36] <ObrienDave> guest|27551, you DON'T get it. you won't help us to help you by following advice and suggestions. good luck with that
[07:37] <guest|27551> one particular program doing a particular annoying thing THAT I KNOW OF is not the point
[07:37] <k1l_> guest|27551: is there a reason you make a drama about it but cant even upload a screenshot?
[07:37] <guest|27551> i described it guys ... take it for what it is ... there is a bigger picture here
[07:37] <guest|27551> i am not trying to be a smar aleck
[07:37] <guest|27551> please have empathy
[07:37] <ObrienDave> ROFLMAO
[07:37] <guest|27551> i think there is even a file called that
[07:38] <guest|27551> lol
[07:38] <DX099> guest|27551, learn AppArmor
[07:38] <ObrienDave> "bigger picture" ROFL
[07:38] <k1l_> guest|27551: you were told by 10 different supporters that your description is not enough. so either you show more details with pictures or names of programs or you stop asking
[07:38] <lljjbb> .
[07:38] <Ben64> guest|27551: you've typed 168 lines here so far, a picture would take much less time and energy on all our parts.
[07:39] <impradeepy> lol
[07:39] <guest|27551> i tried to make a sound recording
[07:39] <guest|27551> and name the recording
[07:39] <guest|27551> and have the computer search for icon art for it
[07:39] <guest|27551> but i can't record
[07:39] <guest|27551> i need to make a new file with no art already
[07:39] <Ben64> no you don't, just give a screenshot
[07:39] <guest|27551> a screenshot of what??
[07:39] <Ben64> anything
[07:40] <k1l_> *sigh*
[07:40] <guest|27551> it is a process that nEEDS A VIDEO for you to see it
[07:40] <ObrienDave> *gives up and saunters away*
[07:40] <guest|27551> i need a video showing a fresh audio file with no icon art
[07:40] <guest|27551> then how the icon for that audio file is not loading while the computer searches online for icon art for it
[07:41] <guest|27551> i do not know which program is running it
[07:41] <Ben64> we don't care about the process, we need to know what you're talking about. give us a screenshot of something that already downloaded the icon, we don't care!
[07:41] <k1l_> guest|27551: there are different possible programs that could download album art. so please make a screenshot of what you are talking about so we can see which program you mean. so we can advice you what to do
[07:41] <guest|27551> i don;'t know which program is doing it
[07:41] <Ben64> SO GIVE A SCREENSHOT OF IT
[07:41] <guest|27551> of what?
[07:41] <Ben64> mother of god
[07:41] <guest|27551> you need a video to see this process
[07:41] <k1l_> yes, that is why we need a screenshot of that program where you see the album art
[07:42] <guest|27551> there is no program i know of
[07:42] <Ben64> where do you see the damn audio files
[07:42] <guest|27551> something is detecting icon art by scanning my files
[07:42] <impradeepy> guest|27551, https://launchpad.net/ go there and post your problem in details everyhting
[07:42] <Ben64> take a damn screenshot of the damn thing so we can stop this damn conversation already
[07:42] <guest|27551> scanning my files on its own and downloaind icon art for it
[07:42] <ObrienDave> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO HELP YOU WITH!!!! GEEZ LOUISE!!!
[07:42] <cynicist> he's trolling, stop feeding him
[07:42] <guest|27551> i am not trolling
[07:42] <guest|27551> how is this trolling
[07:42] <cynicist> then take a screenshot of the situation and post it
[07:43] <ObrienDave> yep, good luck with that, troll
[07:43] <Beldar> two ops and no quiets
[07:43] <cynicist> video is unnecessary
[07:43] <guest|27551> let's say we fix this
[07:43] <Ben64> no. stop.
[07:43] <cynicist> people don't need to see the icons change, they need to know which icons you are actually talking about
[07:43] <Ben64> give a screenshot
[07:43] <anonymous> hi~
[07:43] <Ben64> no more talking
[07:43] <guest|27551> we can detect the program that is automatically downloaind icon art....
[07:43] <cynicist> so until you post a screenshot, you are trolling
[07:43] <guest|27551> but what else is going on that is behind the scenes
[07:43] <Jordan_U> Please everyone calm down. The all caps, swearing and accusations are trolling are not at all productive.
[07:43] <Ben64> yeah, i'm done with you until you post a picture
[07:43] <guest|27551> that is why i would like to kjnow which programs are accessing intenret
[07:44] <guest|27551> i want to control which programs are accessing internet
[07:44] <cynicist> Jordan_U: it's more productive than continuing a conversation with someone who ignores all requests for clarification of the issue and continues repeating his statements over and over again
[07:44] <guest|27551> only then i can see what is trying to access teh internet to download icon art and stop it
[07:44] <Jordan_U> guest|27551: You can use netstat to list processes with open network connections.
[07:44] <impradeepy> guest|27551, use shutter and capture and post it on youtube happy now?will see ok  now please stop
[07:54] <insidek> Helo ^^
[07:55] <impradeepy> insidek:hi
[08:03] <jgcampbell300> is anyone here running xen hyporvisor ?
[08:04] <jgcampbell300> !xen
[08:04] <starnix> Hello People.
[08:08] <Guest71342> After installing Kernel 3.12 to replace Ubuntu 13.10 kernel...it corrected the Kernel Panic, but now...lol Ubuntu will not resume correctly from Suspend
[08:12] <helmut_> hi
[08:24] <MediaMis_> I keep reseting the vhosts root directory but for some reason it doesn't recognize the directory.
[08:25] <MediaMis_> Seems simple enough.
[08:39] <Shadowandlight> why cant i browse this directory in filezilla? http://i.imgur.com/qCe2Cz0.png
[08:39] <Shadowandlight> i can browse it inside terminal no problem
[08:40] <Shadowandlight> http://i.imgur.com/apt9cIF.png the rest showup
[08:40] <olgac> #ubuntutr
[08:41] <somsip> Shadowandlight: its a file, not a directory
[08:41] <Shadowandlight> http://i.imgur.com/qID2abY.png
[08:41] <Shadowandlight> no its a directory
[08:41] <somsip> Shadowandlight: phpbb in http://i.imgur.com/qCe2Cz0.png is a file
[08:42] <Shadowandlight> how can it be a file in FTP and a directory in terminal?
[08:42] <Gentoon> Hi, English learned not much good.
[08:42] <DarkRyoushii> hey I'm running xubuntu but this is fairly generic question, how do I get thrown into CLI mode at boot rather than GUI/window manager?
[08:42] <Gentoon> Please tell me file for peen park?
[08:42] <ikonia> peen park ?
[08:42] <Gentoon> error for peen park, edit vim?
[08:42] <DarkRyoushii> and would my third party AMD drivers still start in this mode?
[08:42] <ikonia> DarkRyoushii: disable X11/login manager via upstart
[08:42] <Shadowandlight> http://i.imgur.com/Kqj3Dcv.png
[08:42] <DarkRyoushii> ikonia: would I still get the benefit of AMD drivers loading?
[08:43] <ikonia> DarkRyoushii: you're not using X11 - why do you want "amd drivers"?
[08:43] <Ben64> Gentoon: what is your native language? and are you on gentoo?
[08:43] <Gentoon> I finsd how say.. child organs.. peen park file?
[08:43] <DarkRyoushii> ikonia: cryptocurrency mining
[08:43] <ikonia> DarkRyoushii: why are you doing this ?
[08:43] <ikonia> DarkRyoushii: it should load the kernel modules, just not the X11 modules
[08:43] <Gentoon> I speak Laud
[08:43] <DarkRyoushii> I'm 90% sure it doesn't need the x11 modules
[08:43] <ikonia> Gentoon: what is your native language
[08:44] <DarkRyoushii> so thank you very much for that you told me exactly the thing to google to get furhter assistance :)
[08:44] <Gentoon> so Child organs, in peen park file.. for vim edit?
[08:44] <ikonia> DarkRyoushii: I can't remember what window/login manager the xubuntu install uses so I can't give you the exact syntax to disable it, sorry
[08:44] <Ben64> pretty sure its a troll ikonia... ip location is oregon, usa, plus the nick containing Gentoo and ident is "Sarge"
[08:44] <DarkRyoushii> ikonia: if it helps, it has something to do with lightdm
[08:45] <DarkRyoushii> ikonia: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16371/how-do-i-disable-x-at-boot-time-so-that-the-system-boots-in-text-mode
[08:45] <ikonia> Ben64: yes, I've also come to that conclusion,
[08:45] <DarkRyoushii> this looks like it should work though as long as I'm using GRUB - which I am
[08:45] <ikonia> DarkRyoushii: ah, it uses lightdm now ?
[08:45] <Gentoon> ikonia: SPEAK Xhosa?
[08:48] <DarkRyoushii> ikonia: apparently, but again my link should probably work :)
[08:48] <DarkRyoushii> so I'll try that and report back :)
[08:50] <Wiz_KeeD> hello guys
[08:51] <Wiz_KeeD> I have a question, is there a difference between partitioning with grub first and then setting the filesystem type in the installer (Ext4 journal item etc) and setting it directly from there?
[08:52] <Ben64> grub doesn't partition, you mean gparted? it doesn't matter if you partition with gparted or the installer, the effect is the same.
[08:59] <stephen_rkc> Hi There
[08:59] <Rory> Hello stephen_rkc
[09:00] <stephen_rkc> how do I create partition called sdb if I have only drive called sda
[09:00] <stephen_rkc> ?
[09:00] <gordonjcp> stephen_rkc: you don't
[09:00] <Rory> stephen_rkc: DRIVES are called /dev/sda, /dev/sdb etc
[09:00] <Rory> stephen_rkc: partitions on /dev/sda are called /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2 etc
[09:00] <stephen_rkc> okay
[09:01] <Rory> stephen_rkc: Why do you ask?
[09:01] <gordonjcp> y'know, it would have made more sense to define drives as /dev/sdx and partitions as /dev/sdx/1
[09:01] <Rory> stephen_rkc: I'm worried you're following some guide blindly or something, that's why I'm asking
[09:01] <Rory> gordonjcp: No it wouldn't because of how UNIX files and directories work
[09:02] <Rory> gordonjcp: /dev/sda needs to be a "file"
[09:02] <impradeepy> stephan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning%20issues?action=show&redirect=Partitioning
[09:02] <stephen_rkc> I'm trying to create OpenStack Documentation  to Configure a Block Storage Service node
[09:02] <stephen_rkc> I need a drive called sdb for it
[09:02] <gbear14275> Hey guys I'm in a real pickle.  Tried to enable TRIM support for my SSD by following this page (http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim) and now I'm getting a "ALERT! /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!"
[09:02] <Rory> stephen_rkc: So you need two physical hard drives
[09:02] <stephen_rkc> but I have created vm with sda
[09:02] <Rory> !pm > astonBoy
[09:03] <somsip> stephen_rkc: so create a new virtual drive and mount as sdb
[09:03] <gbear14275> I'm not familiar with busybox enough to know what I'm doing and could use some help before I mess it up further...
[09:03] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, you will not believe it brother i'm running ubuntu without any issues in dual boot :O
[09:04] <ObrienDave> !yay | Wiz_KeeD
[09:04] <Wiz_KeeD> haha