[20:07] <Delano-240696195> I'm in KDE now
[20:07] <ardchoille> !ot
[20:07] <Delano-240696195> But that's not the point
[20:08] <xover> I installed resticted exrtras, but no joy, do i need the w32 too?
[20:08] <Delano-240696195> You can't advertise Ubuntu as a "solid" OS when even its default GUI is riddled with bugs
[20:08] <armornick> Delano-240696195: vista. point taken
[20:08] <ardchoille> Delano-240696195: That's not productive. Please take this to another channel
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> *cough* Microsoft does *cough* *cough*  time for offtopic channel...
[20:09] <guntbert> Delano-240696195: please stop your ranting - ask for help or keep quiet
[20:09] <Delano-240696195> I AM asking for help
[20:09] <Delano-240696195> How do I fix it?
[20:09] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, a bug for you isnt `riddled` .. Ive used ubuntu since 5.10.  no issues
[20:09] <Delano-240696195> I tried the Ubuntu forums, no luck
[20:09] <Delano-240696195> But instead you all wanna argue with me
[20:09] <karmicuser> blackxored, okey i see a few lines . but it says just about my current boot . i mean from my curren tsession from livecd  . will dat info do any good ?
[20:09] <armornick> Delano-240696195: have you tried removing the .gnome, .gconf and similar folders, then logging out and on
[20:09] <mneptok> Delano-240696195: "Linux is a cult" is not asking for help. it's asking for a /kick
[20:09] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, explain your problem and wait.
[20:10] <Delano-240696195> Because I dared get annoyed at your software worship
[20:10] <Delano-240696195> mneptok, it's true; any criticism invites a slew of hostility
[20:10] <armornick> Delano-240696195: believe me, we get annoyed at linux sometimes too
[20:10] <mneptok> Delano-240696195: no, you dared to troll an IRC channel with no substantive input.
[20:10] <niella> KDE4 is a work in progress, you're a bit illusioned if you think it should be stable and solid
[20:10] <the_vdi> Go play up your own end
[20:10] <armornick> niella: he's actually talking about gnome
[20:11] <niella> lol
[20:11] <Delano-240696195> mneptok, well, sorry, but I get my back up when I ask for help and get told "well, *I* don't get that"
[20:11] <armornick> Delano-240696195: did you try what I asked?
[20:11] <Delano-240696195> It's like a woman going to a doctor explaining she's in labour and the doctor saying, "well, *I've* never experienced that"
[20:11] <blackxored> karmicuser, there are only a few cases when I've seen the livecd hang on boot, and it's on filesystem scanning and xorg problem after boot
[20:11] <the_vdi> Hi. I've got a USB mouse (AMU2604EUK) that won't work with Ubuntu 9.10. I tried the forum but no one replied to the post. dmesg shows the mouse being recognised but mouse movement does not result in pointer movement. Anyone help, please?
[20:11] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, we dont work for you, just state the issue, and while you wait, go google
[20:11] <mneptok> Delano-240696195: and why? anyone aying "i don't get that" is in essence saying "can't reproduce it, so can't be of much help."
[20:12] <blackxored> karmicuser, without more information I can't tell, search for lines like FATAL, configuration problem, ERROR in the output
[20:12] <mbeierl> Delano-240696195: and then there's those who get annoyed when others don't immediately reply with something, anything, so someone dares to tell you they don't know and you get mad?
[20:12] <Delano-240696195> armornick, yes... no louck
[20:12] <karmicuser> blackxored, it's not my livecd hanging . its my original installed system dat is hanging . i said i'm currently chating from livecd since my original system is not working
[20:12] <TLF> hello
[20:12] <TLF> what's the channel for ubuntu-motu?
[20:12] <armornick> Delano-240696195: well, why don't you stick with KDE instead?
[20:13] <Pici> TLF: #ubuntu-motu surprisingly
[20:13] <Pici> :)
[20:13] <TLF> Pici: :D
[20:13] <mneptok> Delano-240696195: anything in your home directory that is configuration oriented that you need to save?
[20:13] <TLF> Pici: thanks
[20:13] <Delano-240696195> armornick, like I've got a choice
[20:13] <MindVirus> Hi guys. I'm trying to use VNC to connect to my home computer.
[20:13] <karmicuser> blackxored, the problem is with the original installed system and not with the livecd . u get it ?
[20:13] <Delano-240696195> armornick, how do I remove gnome from being an option on my boot page?
[20:13] <MindVirus> However, when I try login (my screen is locked), my shift key won't work for a character in my password.
[20:13] <armornick> Delano-240696195: uninstall gnome
[20:13] <blackxored> karmicuser, that's another story
[20:14] <MindVirus> I know this because shift won't work in the "leave message" box.
[20:14] <MindVirus> Any suggestions?
[20:14] <armornick> Delano-240696195: you should install kdm instead of gdm probably
[20:14] <mneptok> Delano-240696195: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop
[20:14] <karmicuser> blackxored, pls help me with dat story . i've no idea wat to do ..
[20:14] <armornick> mneptok: doesn't that only uninstall the metapackage?
[20:14] <porkpie> anyone had problems with swat not starting?
[20:15] <mneptok> armornick: it should purge the rest of the files as dependencies.
[20:15]  * mneptok has never done it, though
[20:15] <armornick> mneptok: if you do apt-get autoremove afterwards maybe
[20:15] <ardchoille> mneptok: Wouldn't he need --auto-remove ?
[20:15] <porkpie> I have installed from pkg and checked the config  ..... but still not listening on port 901
[20:15] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, have you tried disabling compiz? like try to ctrl-alt-F1, and do metacity --replace
[20:15] <Delano-240696195> Hell with it
[20:16] <Delano-240696195> linux will just get off my system
[20:16] <Delano-240696195> For good
[20:16] <the_vdi> cya!
[20:16] <the_vdi> Hi. I've got a USB mouse (AMU2604EUK) that won't work with Ubuntu 9.10. I tried the forum but no one replied to the post. dmesg shows the mouse being recognised but mouse movement does not result in pointer movement. Anyone help, please?
[20:16] <xover> dr willis: still having no joy after installed win64 and gstreamer
[20:16] <armornick> compiz shouldn't actually do anything to the panels, though
[20:16] <dassouki_> ubuntu says it wants to auto remove about 210mb of stuff, should i trust it
[20:16] <karmicuser> blackxored,  can u help me ? i'm waiting for some help .
[20:17] <xover> video/x-asf-unknown decoder
[20:17] <armornick> Delano-240696195: well, I truly believe in freedom of choice, so good luck :)
[20:17] <kstarr> i told you this one... http://hutss.com/
[20:17] <ardchoille> dassouki_: A better question to ask is should you trust what you told the computer to do. What are you trying to accomplish?
[20:17] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, have you tried earlier versions at all?
[20:17] <guntbert> kstarr: no advertising here
[20:17] <dassouki_> ardchoille: sudo apt-get autoremove
[20:17] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, karmic isnt the be-all end-all
[20:17] <Delano-240696195> GNOME has always been bug-riddled... the bar icons constantly switch around, the sound randomly mutes
[20:18] <armornick> Delano-240696195: that's actually a good idea, try hardy until the support ends
[20:18] <Delano-240696195> duffydack, yes, I've been using Ubuntu on and off since Hardy
[20:18] <the_vdi> Gnome works fine here. Not perfect, but as good as Windows for me
[20:18] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, bar icons switched?  like, if you dont `lock` them?
[20:18] <ardchoille> dassouki_: The package manager is simply doing what you told it to do. Are you sure you want to remove all of those packages?
[20:18] <the_vdi> And all for nothing. Bargain
[20:18] <Delano-240696195> duffydack, I tried locking; does f-all
[20:18] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, wow, and its still not working for you?  thats a first.
[20:18] <Delano-240696195> GNOME is just cr*p
[20:18] <Delano-240696195> duffydack, it did it way back in Hardy days too
[20:19] <armornick> most linux problems originate from hardware
[20:19] <the_vdi> Trolltastic
[20:19] <xover> guys i cannot play WMV and I ahve extras installed and codecs64
[20:19] <adamklu> I am having a problem with parallels on a mac and ubuntu, it seems if I install the operating system into a virtual machine, everything functions as expected, if I clone the virtual machine and boot into the clone, my internet is not functioning properly.  actially doing a ifconfig shows no eth0, ls /dev | grep eth shows nothing, and I do have something in lspci -- when i clone a vm, the only change is the network card which seems to be non-functional -- any
[20:19] <karmicuser> after a month and a half of ubuntu . now i seriously think about switching back to windows . if the system can't even boot , what use is it ;(
[20:19] <xover> whats is the beef? The error message is
[20:19] <xover> video/x-asf-unknown decoder
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> armornick: or bad config
[20:19] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, dont know then, Ive installed it for a lot of people and there have been issues, but resolved issues..
[20:19] <ShawnRisk> armornick: still same peoblems
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> xover: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:19] <Aethelred> armornick: if it's not on fire, it's a software problem.
[20:19] <dassouki_> ardchoille: i didn't put these packages on any list
[20:19] <Delano-240696195> armornick, I've been using Linux back since Mandriva was known as Mandrake 9.2
[20:19] <xover> yes mate
[20:19] <duffydack> Never seen that behaviour..  might be something the gnome devs might want to hear tho, if you feel like filing bugs :))
[20:20] <armornick> I actually meant driver incompatibilities. y'know, hardware drivers ;)
[20:20] <ardchoille> dassouki_: autoremove tells the package manager to remove any software that is no longer needed by the system.
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> xover: and w32codecs (or w64codecs for 54bit ubuntu)
[20:20] <Delano-240696195> I also gave Corel Linux a try (yes, that long ago) and Red Hat 7
[20:20] <lyrae> hi all. i installed ubuntu on a laptop. during installation (liveCD in), i clicked on the proprietary icon and saw my nic listed. after installation however (after reboot), i click the icon and no drivers are listed, thus, no internet. why?
[20:20] <guntbert> karmicuser: we neither sell it nor do we make it - we merely give support to fellows needing help - so stop your "threatening"
[20:20] <Delano-240696195> I tried Ubuntu in 2005 and thought it had the potential to be a truly desktop OS
[20:20] <armornick> lyrae: are you using broadcom wireless?
[20:20] <Delano-240696195> But, no
[20:21] <adamklu> sorry, bad keystroke, if anyone answered my issue, please re-reply
[20:21] <Delano-240696195> It's still too rough around the edges
[20:21] <xover> yes yes this oe Proprietary codec binaries, x86_64 version
[20:21] <mneptok> !offtopic > Delano-240696195
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Delano-240696195: there are other distributions of linux
[20:21] <lyrae> armornick: yes
[20:21] <Snausages> Delano-240696195: that's something I'm challenging lately...   been doing great with ubuntu on a netbook
[20:21] <Mike_lifeguard> Does ubuntu's xserver run as root?
[20:21] <armornick> Mike_lifeguard: it should, yes
[20:21] <Snausages> Delano-240696195: I've definitely found a few holes where I can't do what I want, but I'm very impressed overall.
[20:22] <mneptok> !offtopic
[20:22] <Guest84684> I wanted to ask how do i convert from i386 to x86_64
[20:22] <Mike_lifeguard> armornick: Why should it run as root? That seems like a bad idea.
[20:22] <xover> actionparnsip, now what dude?
[20:22] <Delano-240696195> Snausages, it's still not good enough as a desktop OS
[20:22] <duffydack> I love gnome/compiz.. the scale/expo plugins are a god send.
[20:22] <Delano-240696195> It's clunky, buggy
[20:22] <armornick> Mike_lifeguard: root only runs the core apps. Everything until the gdm, the rest is run by the user
[20:22] <ShawnRisk> Connection Failed: Unable to Get IP Address, this is on wireless connection.
[20:22] <erUSUL> Guest84684: reinstalling
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> xover: thats all i got dude
[20:22] <armornick> Mike_lifeguard: if the root user didn't run X, only one user could use it
[20:23] <ShawnRisk> why can't this get an ip address?
[20:23] <karmicuser> guntbert, threatening ??? i am not threatening . i'am just saying my state . dear friend , i love the ubuntu philosophy and have been using ubuntu for about two months . all these time , i had many probs and with the help of guys like you , i fixed 'em and  learned a lot . but now the system doesn't boot and i've no clue of what to do . i've a project to complete and my state is really pathetic . i hope u understand :)
[20:23] <adamklu> i just swapped out my nic -- is there anything i need to do to recreate the /dev/eth0 device?
[20:23] <adamklu> it seems to be missing
[20:23] <ctmjr> someone get rid of him/her
[20:23] <mneptok> !offtopic | last request to move non-support topics out of this channel
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Delano-240696195: depends what you need from an OS. Fits my needs fine (web, media player, chat, web browse)
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Delano-240696195: try a different distro, it may suit your needs better
[20:24] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: STOP
[20:24] <armornick> lyrae: sorry about this, but there's been a lot of ruckus; you're using a proprietary broadcom wireless chip?
[20:24] <Mike_lifeguard> armornick: I'm not sure I follow why that's the case. As far as I know, the xorg folks are trying to get things such that you do not have to grant gdm superuser privileges because it is bad practice and actually a security issue :\
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: k
[20:24] <guntbert> karmicuser: I only came in lately - please restate your problem - if possible all in one line
[20:24] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: thank you
[20:24] <duffydack> think he was just trolling.
[20:24] <TopKatz> got it sorted out, during my install I had an error about the screen saver failing.  Anyways, reinstalled and every thing is good
[20:24] <armornick> Mike_lifeguard: yes, but the core apps need access to the entire system, which only the root user has
[20:24] <lyrae> armornick: i believe so. built-in the laptop
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: np man, chillax
[20:25] <karmicuser> guntbert, when i boot , the system stays at the ubuntu logo . no change from there . dats my problem
[20:25] <armornick> lyrae: do you have access to a wired network?
[20:25] <Nalleman> how can I make dolphin the default file browser?
[20:25] <lyrae> armornick: yes
[20:25] <armornick> lyrae: try installing bcmwl-kernel-source, then rebooting
[20:25] <lyrae> via apt-get?
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> karmicuser: edit the boot options to hide the stupid boot screen which is hiding the useful info
[20:25] <armornick> lyrae: apt-get or synaptic
[20:26] <lyrae> Ok, be right back
[20:26] <guntbert> karmicuser: can you get to the grub menu and start recovery mode?
[20:26] <Mohammad[B]> how to i can cut a part of video with ffmpeg ? please help me
[20:26] <pfred1> ActionParsnip where are boot options?
[20:26] <Delano-240696195> guntbert, when I boot into GNOME, all my bars are gone... I can't right-click, I can't run alt+f2, I tried deleting the .gnome folders in my home directory, I tried uninstalling and installing gnome... NOTHING works... and this is the third time it's happened, on 3 seperate installations on 3 seperate systems, the only consistancy being gnome
[20:26] <guntbert> ActionParsnip: how would karmicuser do that?
[20:26] <virtuald> mike_lifeguard: I think it has to do with parts of the drivers being in userspace, and that with KMS we'll eventually run X as users.
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> pfred1: press e on the boot entry in grub to (e)dit it
[20:26] <zooko> Folks, what's the state of the art of union filesystems for Karmic?
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Nalleman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=665156
[20:27] <armornick> Delano-240696195: it sounds like gnome didn't even load :s
[20:27] <zooko> I need to build a boot drive on USB flash with, ideally, a union fs so that writes don't actually reach the flash drive but just get cached in a RAM disk.
[20:27] <karmicuser> guntbert, the grub menu comes . but the recovery mode also stucks at a line saying smthng like choice 1 or smthng like dat
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> !resetpanel | Delano-240696195
[20:27] <pfred1> ActionParsnip thanks I'll try to figure out what that means.
[20:27] <Delano-240696195> armornick, it WON'T load, that's the thing... I waited half an hour
[20:27] <Mike_lifeguard> virtuald: k, that sounds likely. I did manage to find some old discussion of the hurdles to making it happen, so I'll read a bit :)
[20:27] <mahngiel> !log | mahngiel
[20:27] <Nalleman> ActionParsnip, thanks, i solved it by uninstalling f-spot and install digikam insted :)
[20:27] <guntbert> karmicuser: please be more specific - the wording of error messages is often important
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> pfred1: remove quiet and splash and you will see the boot messages
[20:28] <gerzel> Hey I'm trying to install eeebuntu on my netbook, so I have to have it on a usb/sd stick.  Do I have to extract the iso onto the usb or will just copying the iso over work?
[20:28] <Delano-240696195> ActionJacks_, I can't open a terminal. There's no menu. None of the keys work. Alt+f2 doesn't work.
[20:28] <Delano-240696195> Please read.
[20:28] <Delano-240696195> ActionParsnip*
[20:28] <Cool_GUY> still bugs with karmic?
[20:28] <pfred1> ActionParsnip can I simply edit grub.conf file or something?
[20:28] <Cool_GUY> im still using 9.04 version
[20:28] <Delano-240696195> Cool_GUY, yep
[20:28] <virtuald> mike_lifeguard: care to share? :)
[20:28] <karmicuser> guntbert, but to do that i need to reboot . i'm now from live cd . can i show u some log file or smthng ??
[20:28] <Cool_GUY> i want to upgrade when there's no bugs
[20:28] <armornick> Delano-240696195: did you try ctrl+alt+F2 ?
[20:29] <mahngiel> i can't seem to find this channel's log
[20:29] <Mike_lifeguard> virtuald: reading http://archive.netbsd.se/?ml=xorg&a=2004-07&m=2727216 ATM
[20:29] <Delano-240696195> Yes, armornick
[20:29] <armornick> !logs
[20:29] <guntbert> mahngiel: not today
[20:29] <armornick> Delano-240696195: and it didn't do anything?
[20:29] <Delano-240696195> armornick, not a goddamn thing
[20:30] <jamie_> Okay
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> Cool_GUY: yep and there are bugs with 9.04 too
[20:30] <A5c11Char5et> I is back
[20:30] <mahngiel> guntbert: so today's will be avail tmr?
[20:30] <guntbert> karmicuser: sorry, I'm a bit too tired for "double remote" debugging
[20:30] <karmicuser> ActionParsnip, how can i edit to hide the boot image ??
[20:30] <Delano-240696195> I know it's supposed to take you back to the prompt, armornick
[20:30] <armornick> Delano-240696195: wow, that means it's probably the xserver that isn't loading
[20:31] <armornick> Delano-240696195: which is way over my head
[20:31] <xover> butteractions
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> karmicuser: press e to edit the line then remove splash and quiet
[20:31] <xover> gotta have winxp save me again
[20:31] <guntbert> mahngiel: I don't know, the logs were not available a few days, today I see the ones from the last two days are back, but... (it seems to be a problem of the ubuntu server admins)
[20:31] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, does a livecd boot ok even ?
[20:31] <mahngiel> guntbert: thanks
[20:32] <gerzel> I need a program to write iso to a flash drive
[20:32] <Delano-240696195> Yep
[20:32] <ShawnRisk> seems I am left out to lunch
[20:32] <armornick> gerzel: unetbootin
[20:32] <karmicuser> okey guys , i'm gonna reboot and will tell u the exact errors . hope u'll be here wen i return :)
[20:33] <gerzel> thanks
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> gerzel: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-ubuntu-9-10-live-usb-in-windows/
[20:33] <Pici> 22
[20:33] <Delano-240696195> Linux is a good idea with a bad system backing it up
[20:34] <Kage_Jittai> can someone help me pirate a copy of Ubuntu?
[20:34] <armornick> Delano-240696195: like I've said earlier, most problems are due to hardware incompatibilities
[20:34] <guntbert> !ot | Kage_Jittai
[20:34] <quake_guy> Kage_Jittai, why do you need to pirate it?
[20:34] <Delano-240696195> armornick, you're drawing at straws
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> Kage_Jittai: You can "pirate" one from http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download
[20:34] <armornick> Delano-240696195: a lot of people have linux working perfectly, but you're right that it should say on the website that not all computers work as good
[20:34] <Kage_Jittai> quake_guy: I don't wanna pay for it
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> quake_guy: play along, its quicker
[20:35] <seidos> Kage_Jittai: are you serious?
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> Kage_Jittai: you get get a nice free ubuntu from http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download
[20:35] <armornick> Kage_Jittai: just press next when you get a screen where you have to enter an activation key
[20:35] <fcuk112> Kage_Jittai: try linuxtracker.org, they have lots of pirated linux there.
[20:36] <xover> can anyone help me with wmv on 9.04 64bit
[20:36] <armornick> Kage_Jittai: the copy protection is rubbish :D
[20:36] <adamklu> i am looking for /etc/iftab to no avail, where is this located?
[20:36] <xover> i have installed win63codecs and ubuntu-extra-repositories
[20:36] <xover> no joy still.
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> xover: install ubuntu-restricted-extras and w64codecs
[20:36] <armornick> xover: have you tried installing vlc?
[20:37] <POYO> Bonjour tout le monde
[20:37] <guntbert> !fr | POYO
[20:37] <xover> vlc is installed bro
[20:37] <armornick> guntbert: wow, you're fast :D
[20:37] <xover> its still not loading, i kow the vid works as i had it going in winxp
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> xover: tried mplayer? mplayer kicks ass
[20:38] <ardchoille> adamklu: I don't have any file or folder with that name on my Jaunty system
[20:38] <xover> will do
[20:38] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: but not the one from vlc :)  good evenning dude
[20:38] <guntbert> armornick: i beg your pardon?
[20:38] <armornick> adamklu: what is it you're looking for?
[20:38] <armornick> guntbert: I was typing the same thing ;)
[20:39] <adamklu> armornick: ardchoille: found the file holding my ethernet mac address was /etc/udev/rules.d/*-persistent-net.rules
[20:39] <lyrae_> armornick: hi. it did not find the pkg. then again, it didnt find 'xchat' either..so im using chatzilla
[20:39] <guntbert> armornick: :)
[20:39] <Alan502> Good Day :) I want to format my pendrive, i have tried to manipulate it with fdisk and with mkfs but none of this work, they keep prompting: "mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdb1
[20:39] <Alan502>  " How can i change the permissions of my drive to format it?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: howdy
[20:40] <armornick> lyrae: this morning, someone said the package was 'hiding', so can you try looking for it again? :)
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: mplayer is one of the oldest and respected players around
[20:40] <lyrae_> armornick: how? =(
[20:40] <xover> still no joy with mplayer
[20:40] <xover> GRRR
[20:40] <armornick> lyrae: karmic?
[20:41] <NKjoep> hi all
[20:41] <NKjoep> =)
[20:41] <armornick> NKjoep: hi
[20:41] <jlo> hi
[20:41] <Alan502> hey NKjoep if you have a question ask :)
[20:41] <N3OInc> Howdy folks
[20:41] <R3N3> xover: what's mplayer output ?
[20:41] <lyrae_> armornick: yep
[20:41] <armornick> lyrae: try download from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/bcmwl-kernel-source
[20:41] <ctmjr> xover: sorry what are you trying to do?
[20:41] <NKjoep> Alan502: thank you, but i have no questions :) just here to chat
[20:41] <duffydack> Alan502, is it mounted
[20:41] <natbet> my gtk gets messed up when I switch to dual monitor on my laptop, any ideas? Nvidia card
[20:42] <duffydack> Alan502, for ease, just use gparted
[20:42] <armornick> NKjoep: this is the support forum though, for random chatting, try ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[20:42] <xover> "cannot find condec for audio format 0xA
[20:42] <Alan502> duffydack, it is not mounted, and gparted tells me that i dont have access to the drive
[20:42] <N3OInc> Is there an easy way to disable SSH login on a Ubuntu 9.10 workstation, I don't have the port open, but I have read that it's possible to SSH.  Am I incorrect in this?
[20:42] <R3N3> Alan502: try /dev/sdb instead /dev/sdb1
[20:42] <R3N3> Alan502: be careful pal ;-)
[20:42] <armornick> N3OInc: should be in login window
[20:43] <Nalleman> how can I change default file browser from nautilus to dolphin?
[20:43] <R3N3> xover: do you have ffmpeg installed ?
[20:43] <NKjoep> thank you armornick, sorry if i was not so specific... i'm here to read and talk following rules ^_^
[20:43] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: but if i am correct mplayer dont have own codecs like vlc
[20:43] <chrisinajar> soneone told me there was an ubuntu command line tool for editing the crontab file... I can edit it by hand fine, but i want a package to add a cron job to the crontab so i'd like a more elegent way to edit it non-interactively... Anyone know anything about this?
[20:43] <R3N3> xover: try ffmpeg -i "your wmv file"
[20:43] <guntbert> N3OInc: sudo service ssh stop
[20:43] <R3N3> xover: and see what it says
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: sure it doesm, it installs what it needs to run
[20:44] <iceroot> chrisinajar: copy a file to /etc/cron.d/
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: codecs are universal too so all players can use the codecs if they are installed :)
[20:44] <chrisinajar> iceroot: oh yeah, forgot about that folder...
[20:44] <iceroot> chrisinajar: cron is seaching every minute there for new files/jobs
[20:44] <chrisinajar> iceroot: i was only thinking about cron.daily and stuff >.>
[20:44]  * chrisinajar feels dumb :P\
[20:44] <chrisinajar> iceroot: heh, thanks!
[20:44] <N3OInc> guntbert: is this persistent? Again, its not running, but I have read that there is a config that allows it by default, if it were to run.
[20:45] <iceroot> chrisinajar: np
[20:45] <xover> OK, will try
[20:45] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: thats correct but vlc comes with some nice codecs (other apps not using)
[20:45] <N3OInc> guntbert: I'm just trying to harden it as best I can, and I read about disabling the ability to login SSH all together.  Maybe I am just unclear in what I am trying to accomplish.
[20:46] <Alan502> R3N3, when i try it with sdb it prompts : "/dev/sdb/: Not a directory"
[20:46] <guntbert> N3OInc: if I remember correctly it is persistent, the output of service should tell you...
[20:46] <R3N3> Alan502: sorry: /dev/sdb
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: not had an issue personally
[20:46] <Alan502> duffydack, i have trouble with gparted, when i click apply changes are not made; an error is displayed
[20:47] <Alan502> R3N3, mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdb
[20:47] <N3OInc> guntbert: Alright thank you for that information.  Would you happen to know of any good tutorials specifically for 9.10 workstation hardening?
[20:47] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: try some nonfree things without a distribution which has ubuntu-restrcited-extras
[20:47] <Alan502> R3N3, im sure the device is plugged and unmounted, i have been googling for quite long
[20:47] <duffydack> Alan502, are there any partitions on it already ?
[20:47] <iceroot> Alan502: what about posting the error with pastebin to the channel
[20:47] <guntbert> N3OInc: sorry no
[20:47] <R3N3> Alan502: are you using sudo ?
[20:47] <lyrae> armornick: thanks so much for the help. it worked.
[20:48] <iceroot> R3N3: gksudo
[20:48] <armornick> lyrae: no problem
[20:48] <N3OInc> guntbert: No problem. Thanks again.
[20:48] <lyrae> :)
[20:48] <Alan502> R3N3, yes: alan@alan-desktop:~$ sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb
[20:48] <Alan502> mkfs.vfat 3.0.3 (18 May 2009)
[20:48] <Alan502> mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdb
[20:48] <Alan502> iceroot, wait a minute....
[20:48] <lyrae> broadcom...always a hassle
[20:48] <armornick> lyrae: especially with karmic
[20:48] <lyrae> remember it being a problem for my desktop about 1.5yrs ago
[20:48] <lyrae> ah
[20:48] <karmicuser> guntbert,  i rebooted . may i give the exact line at which the system stops when run in recovery mode  ???
[20:48] <duffydack> Alan502, sdb is the drive, not a partition
[20:49] <duffydack> Alan502, make a partition first, then format it
[20:49] <armornick> it worked perfect in hardy to jaunty, until I got a kernel panic by installing the drivers using the official tools :D
[20:49] <Alan502> duffydack, i choose to delete the partition and then format it, with gparted
[20:49] <xover> R3N3, what output am i looking for?
[20:49] <guntbert> karmicuser: that would be helpful - if it is more than 3 lines please use !pastebin
[20:49] <Alan502> duffydack, let me copy the error in a pastebin for you
[20:49] <xover>  Stream #0.0: Audio: 0x000a, 22050 Hz, mono, s16, 20 kb/s
[20:49] <xover>     Stream #0.1: Video: MSS2 / 0x3253534D, 640x480, 6 kb/s, 15 tbr, 1k tbn, 1k tbc
[20:49] <adamklu> Ubuntu enterprise cloud installation x64: No common CD-ROM drive was detected. -- 8.04 LTS x64 installs fine -- any ideas?
[20:50] <duffydack> Alan502,  pastebin fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[20:50] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, is linux Mint and linux SUSE not free?
[20:50] <armornick> isolat3dsh33p: yes it is
[20:50] <Gaming4JC> hey all, I got a weird issue in 9.10. Perhaps an exploit. Wget is running as root and is downloading 10MBs or more as we speak. Any idea what it could be considering I'm not using wget? o_O
[20:50] <guntbert> duffydack: he will need sudo fdisk...
[20:50] <armornick> isolat3dsh33p: opensuse, not novell
[20:50] <Gaming4JC> lsof -i reveals this: wget      10364  root    4u  IPv4  65016      0t0  TCP <IP_ADDRESS>:38561->balsa.lunarbreeze.com:www (ESTABLISHE
[20:51] <Pici> !offtopic | isolat3dsh33p armornick
[20:51] <karmicuser> guntbert,  here is the last two lines : "Begin : waiting for root file system  .... [2.775135] usb 1-7 configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice"
[20:51] <isolat3dsh33p> Pici, sorry
[20:51] <N3OInc> Does Ubuntu Enterprise use mutlicast for installation?
[20:51] <isolat3dsh33p> armornick, thanks :D
[20:51] <N3OInc> Might that be an issue for adamklu
[20:52] <armornick> isolat3dsh33p: no problem ;)
[20:52] <Gaming4JC> uhhh, wget is still downloading here
[20:53] <Gaming4JC> I guess I can kill the process, but it might be a rootkit? o_O
[20:53] <xover> I require mss2 codec, is there one?
[20:53] <armornick> Gaming4JC: what is it downloading?
[20:53] <Dreamglider> Runnung Ubuntu on a Dell with Intel Core2@2GHz, 2Gb DDR RAM@667MHz and it has been running great(i dont use any fancy stuff like beryl/Compiz) but now all of a sudden it's just "Crawling" along. and i dont know why!
[20:53] <Alan502> duffydack, iceroot http://paste.ubuntu.com/331943/
[20:53] <R3N3> xover: Im checking in google
[20:54] <R3N3> xover: It should work in mplayer
[20:54] <duffydack> Alan502, ahh... read only
[20:54] <R3N3> xover: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/codecs-status.html
[20:54] <Gaming4JC> armornick: I've honestly no idea. HTTP traffic according to wireshark. 10MB of it so far, and I'm not running it at all. It's on the root account, not mine.
[20:54] <xim_> is there a good image program besides gimp, something simple like mspaint, to use as an alternative every now and then?
[20:54] <armornick> Gaming4JC: sudo kill it and see what happens
[20:54] <sebsebseb> xim_: of course
[20:54] <Gaming4JC> armornick: lsof -i helped me figure out what it was, also FireStarter firewall.
[20:54] <duffydack> Alan502, does it have a switch or something to enable write access?  some flash drives do
[20:54] <dAlfa89_> xim_, mtpaint might do you
[20:54] <Gaming4JC> armornick: kk will do
[20:55] <sebsebseb> xim_: Tuxpaint :)
[20:55] <adamklu> N3OInc: Looking up now
[20:55] <sebsebseb> xim_: and there are some others
[20:55] <sebsebseb> xim_: Your on 9.10?
[20:55] <Alan502> duffydack, no it doesnt
[20:55] <guntbert> karmicuser: the last line seems harmless - but we would need the lines before that - another question: what did you do with your system before the problem surfaced?
[20:55] <adamklu> N3OInc: This is also happening on an ubuntu server 9.10 install x64 -- no enterprise cloud
[20:55] <Alan502> actually, i can perfectly use it in windows, duffydack , i dont know whats wrong here
[20:55] <armornick> Gaming4JC: have you manually installed any debs or compiled any sources?
[20:56] <xim_> sebsebseb, yes 910
[20:56] <xim_> im trying mtpaint tuxpaint and rtspaint
[20:56] <helluvaCSmajor> how do i bring down my wireless interface so i can switch modes? I used to use sudo ifdown wlan0 and it worked, but now it says interface wlan0 not configured
[20:56] <sebsebseb> xim_: ok so have you looked in the Software Centre for these programs?  How about Synaptic?
[20:56] <dandalion> I have some questions and am needing some help is there someone that can help me
[20:56] <N3OInc> adamklu: Heard, sorry. Just trying to help.
[20:56] <Gaming4JC> armornick: hmm yes I have. Since I use dial-up I use a lot of third-party deb places such as get-deb.net etc.
[20:56] <guntbert> !ask | dandalion
[20:56] <xim_> sebsebseb, i wanted someone to suggest one they liked
[20:56] <adamklu> N3OInc: looking it up now, that may help
[20:56] <xover> R3M3: it says it cant find audio codec in mplayer
[20:56] <Gaming4JC> armornick: still trying to get the wget pid btw...
[20:57] <sebsebseb> xim_: If you want a basic Paint program,  that is well a bit more than just that since it's for kids, and so fun,  make sure to try Tuxpaint
[20:57] <armornick> Gaming4JC: just run 'sudo killall wget'
[20:57] <sebsebseb> xim_: Tuxpaint :)
[20:57] <sebsebseb> xim_: it has sounds as well,  and some already used pictures
[20:57] <sebsebseb> xim_: I mean pictures that you can just use
[20:57] <xim_> so its like kidpix for linux?
[20:57] <armornick> anyone know what happened to Paint.Mono?
[20:58] <mirak_> hi
[20:58] <R3N3> xover: I suspect the audiocodec is not supported by ffmpeg but not sure
[20:58] <armornick> hi
[20:58] <xover> R3M3: it says I need this wmsdmod
[20:58] <Gaming4JC> armornick: alreadly tried and it's not killed yet :P
[20:58] <R3N3> xover: did you try vlc ?
[20:58] <sebsebseb> xim_: just try it :)  and if you want something that is more like MS Paint there  are quite a few programs
[20:58] <R3N3> xover: because mplayer is based on ffmpeg
[20:58] <armornick> Gaming4JC: that's odd
[20:58] <karmicuser> guntbert, nothing special . two things i remember are : 1. deleted two users & 2. used cpu-freqscaling applet in the gnome panel
[20:58] <mirak_> is there a msn client that allow chat and cam ?
[20:58] <duffydack> R3N3,  I thought it was mencoder
[20:58] <Gaming4JC> armornick: I killed the pid and it's back under a new one... this is odd o_o
[20:58] <Snausages> Can anyone suggest a software package & method for doing a complete system backup to an external HDD?
[20:58] <sebsebseb> mirak_: AMSN
[20:58] <Alan502> duffydack, any ideaS?
[20:58] <xim_> sebsebseb, dAlfa89_ ok thanks
[20:59] <R3N3> duffydack: ?
[20:59] <sebsebseb> xim_: mtpaint is good as well
[20:59] <xover> tried totem, vlc, mplayer
[20:59] <mirak_> sebsebseb, ok I used it before, I forgot about it
[20:59] <xover> no joy
[20:59] <Gaming4JC> armornick: we can try locking it down at the firewall level. Just block port 80? lol
[20:59] <xim_> sebsebseb, im getting them both
[20:59] <sebsebseb> xim_: plus there's uhmm
[20:59] <N3OInc> adamklu: I was just figuring that the routes to different networks may cause the issue, but I'm probably far out there.
[20:59] <sebsebseb> !info xpaint
[20:59] <helluvaCSmajor> why would my wireless interface not be configured if i am using it?
[20:59] <sebsebseb> xim_: there are two or so others that are like Paint, that are good
[21:00] <sebsebseb> xim_: as well
[21:00] <armornick> Gaming4JC: you installed third-party debs so I don't know whether or not it might actually be a rootkit
[21:00] <sebsebseb> xim_: xpaint being one of those
[21:00] <N3OInc> adamklu: And you were having issues without the cloud, so...
[21:00] <Gaming4JC> armornick: the IP is changing now to different websites wget is downloading. Somethings weird...
[21:00] <nytek_> i love how all programs in linux are so small and lightweight
[21:00] <nytek_> well most of them
[21:00] <sebsebseb> nytek_:  yeah :)
[21:00] <xim_> sebsebseb, i was just wondering because i couldnt figure out how to do simple things like draw squares in gimp, even tho i use it for more advanced stuff all the time.  im sure i could have just asked about that, but i always perfer to have a couple applications to choose between
[21:00] <guntbert> karmicuser: no I was asking more about things like: add/remove a HD, remove LVM, ....
[21:00] <Gaming4JC> armornick: hmm.. well I've never had this problem before and I do look for trusted debs
[21:00] <armornick> Gaming4JC: I'd try reinstalling, but I'm just paranoid ;)
[21:00] <sebsebseb> xim_: kpaint as well I think
[21:01] <sebsebseb> !info kpaint
[21:01] <xim_> lol ok
[21:01] <nytek_> sebsebseb: 1340kb
[21:01] <bjorne_> are that out someone updated howto for ubuntu 9.1 for openldap?
[21:01] <sebsebseb> xim_: just look in the software centre or Synaptic :)
[21:01] <nytek_> sebsebseb: lol, like a big picture :D
[21:01] <sebsebseb> xim_: or both even
[21:01] <xim_> sebsebseb, talk about floodgates
[21:01] <xim_> hehe
[21:01] <faceface_> hey guys, just making a usb stick
[21:01] <sebsebseb> xim_: what?
[21:01] <faceface_> going to eeebuntu it up
[21:01] <karmicuser> guntbert, no apart from deleting two users , i didnt' do anything with the hardware or any other major changes
[21:01] <Gaming4JC> armornick: lol, not a bad idea but if this is an exploit I think I might take the time to track it down and benefit the community. It's not everyday I catch malware on linux like this. :D
[21:01] <nytek_> faceface_: woot woot
[21:01] <xim_> sebsebseb, youve told me like 6 of them
[21:01] <xim_> lol
[21:02] <faceface_> nytek_: yaeah
[21:02] <dandalion> I am very new to ubuntu I have made the cd an was installing it to my computer and wanted to partition my disc and got an error and was unable to do it.  My question is if i complete the install will it work?
[21:02] <faceface_> dandalion: insert glass of water
[21:02] <sebsebseb> xim_: oh ok, well  Desktop Linux is all about choice, from the distro, to  apps for whatever you want to do
[21:02] <armornick> Gaming4JC: alright, thanks in advance for helping the community :D
[21:02] <sebsebseb> xim_: there tends to be a few apps for the same task
[21:02] <nytek_> dandalion: it wont go any further unless you partition or use the entire disk
[21:02] <sebsebseb> nytek_: like a big picture?/
[21:02] <xim_> sebsebseb, yeah i like that, thats why i figured id just get a couple extra for doing simple things
[21:03] <R3N3> xover: sorry man, I would transcode the file in windows to ogg or mpeg or someting else
[21:03] <sebsebseb> xim_: ok
[21:03] <guntbert> karmicuser: sorry, today thats the end of my possibilities - gotta have some shut eye :)
[21:03] <karmicuser> guntbert,  here are a few last lines from my /var/log/messages : http://pastebin.com/m593b551a
[21:03] <sebsebseb> xim_: well I would be interested to know what you think of Tuxpaint :)  you can do that in pm, since  off topic really
[21:04] <xover> good idea
[21:04] <dandalion> I was thinking of using the entire disc and letting my windows go bye bye.. i just wanted to make sure that it works and that i dont have too many bugs to work out. So, why does it ask me if i want to open up in windows or ubuntu when i turn on my computer now
[21:04] <xover> cheers anyway
[21:04] <R3N3> xover: good luck
[21:04] <R3N3> xover: see ya
[21:04] <nytek_> sebsebseb: 1340 kb, what is that 1.2mb? a big picture file :D lol but its a program!
[21:04] <ShawnRisk> I am having so much trouble I am going to throw up
[21:04] <nytek_> ShawnRisk: whats up?
[21:04] <Stupendoussteve> dandalion: So you can still use windows if you want to?
[21:04] <ShawnRisk> just my wireless is never going to work and I have tried everything
[21:04] <armornick> dandalion: if you took the default options, you are doing a dual boot
[21:04] <dandalion> yes thats what i am on now
[21:05] <xover> i think its 64bit ubuntu being a bstrd
[21:05] <nytek_> dandalion: youll be fine with an entire disk install, it will force you to learn :D
[21:05] <duffydack> Alan502, no ideas yet........
[21:05] <nytek_> ShawnRisk: what card do you have?
[21:05] <karmicuser> guntbert, okey . thnx for helping nyway . i think i 've to switch back to win (not threatening okey ;) ) coz i've to do a project . thnx buddy
[21:05] <sebsebseb> nytek_: not sure what you mean, but   uhmm   a  / for a distro can be like 10GB in size, and can have loads of apps installed in that.   However Windows XP SP3 will take up about 5GB.  and Vista takes up like 16GB
[21:05] <dandalion> i am oke with that nytek.. i just want to make sure that it will work
[21:05] <duffydack> xover, what video format is this?
[21:05] <Snausages> anyone? whole-system backup utility?
[21:05] <nytek_> sebsebseb: yeah, my distro will never be that high. i barely have any gui apps
[21:05] <ShawnRisk> Broadcom BCM4311
[21:06] <xover> duffyduck, wmv
[21:06] <duffydack> Snausages, clonezilla
[21:06] <guntbert> karmicuser: nothing strange  I can see here - sorry that we missed it - good luck
[21:06] <mka> Snausages: Partimage
[21:06] <armornick> karmicuser: you could also try 32-bit
[21:06] <duffydack> xover, is it small enough to send ?
[21:06] <nytek_> ShawnRisk: what distro are you running? ubuntu 9.10?
[21:06] <sebsebseb> nytek_: well even with loads of games and stuff,  10GB won't just be filled up
[21:06] <Nalleman> Can I sync evolution against my google calendar?
[21:06] <ShawnRisk> nytek_: yes
[21:06] <Stupendoussteve> dandalion: If you have plenty of disk space there is no need to get rid of Windows until you are positive you won't use it again. Set Ubuntu as the default with a short timeout and you can still learn
[21:06] <nytek_> ShawnRisk: check restricted drivers?
[21:06] <nytek_> sebsebseb: true true, the beauty of linux
[21:06] <armornick> sebsebseb, nytek_: unless you install 3D games ;)
[21:06] <nytek_> sebsebseb: !
[21:06] <ShawnRisk> nytek_: how?
[21:07] <xover> never say never with windows guys, lol.
[21:07] <nytek_> armornick: no time for that
[21:07] <nytek_> armornick: :(
[21:07] <dandalion> how do i set it as the default
[21:07] <nytek_> ShawnRisk: system > restricted drivers
[21:07] <karmicuser> guntbert,  one last question . could deleting two users 've caused this ? ny possibility ??
[21:07] <duffydack> Alan502,  tried deleting the partition from fdisk ?
[21:07] <nytek_> xover: lol, indeed
[21:07] <armornick> ShawnRisk: whatever you do, don't install broadcom STA from the restricted drivers menu
[21:07] <nytek_> armornick: why?
[21:07] <armornick> ShawnRisk: it gives kernel panic, install bcmwl-kernel-source manually
[21:07] <ShawnRisk> nytek_: hardware drivers?
[21:08] <armornick> ShawnRisk: yes
[21:08] <duffydack> xover,  I`d like that file to see if it wont play.
[21:08] <nytek_> ShawnRisk: follow armornick's tip if you get a kernel panic lol
[21:08] <ctmjr> xover you can try to encode it to avi  this is the basic encoding options       mencoder  file.wmv -ovc raw -oac mp3lame -o test.avi
[21:08] <xover> the moment you leave that command line! lol
[21:08] <ShawnRisk> armornick: I did and I am still having trouble
[21:08] <duffydack> xover, could just install ffmpeg and convert it as well.
[21:08] <Alan502> yep, duffydack , but still i have not write access to the drive apparently
[21:08] <Snausages> duffydack: clonezilla does look like what I want.  Reckon I can install that into my ubuntu installer stick?
[21:08] <xover> oh really!
[21:08] <guntbert> karmicuser: I cannot imagine how - so I'd say "no" - my guess would rather be a wrong line in the grub config pointing to the "root" device
[21:08] <xover> ok cool
[21:09] <Alan502> duffydack, do you know how can i change a drive permissions ?
[21:09] <southwind> where can i learn how linux works
[21:09] <armornick> ShawnRisk: have you installed bcmwl-kernel-source?
[21:09] <armornick> southwind: ubuntuguide.org
[21:09] <nytek_> southwind: google?
[21:09] <southwind> thanks
[21:09] <xover> what is the mmpeg encoder comman?
[21:09] <southwind> armonick
[21:09] <guntbert> !tldp | southwind
[21:10] <ShawnRisk> armornick: yes
[21:10] <sebsebseb> armornick: southwind that's unoffical and some of the ops don't like that link being given out in here, since they have some advice they don't like
[21:10] <sebsebseb> !new |  southwind
[21:10] <karmicuser> guntbert, i dont find any menu.lst file in grub directory in karmic . what is the new configuration file name ?
[21:10] <sebsebseb> southwind: Ubuntu Pocket Guide :)
[21:10] <Alan502> How can i change a drives permissions to read AND write?
[21:10] <armornick> sebsebseb: oh, didn't know that, actually
[21:10] <armornick> Alan502: right click and set permissions
[21:10] <sebsebseb> southwind: and if you want to well find out about Linux and such in general, this site is good
[21:10] <sebsebseb> southwind: I mean if you want to start reading articles
[21:10] <southwind> k
[21:10] <southwind> :)
[21:11] <Alan502> where on dolphin?
[21:11] <mka> guys, I am still on Jaunty, is it safe if I upgrade my grub to grub2? any advantages if I manage to upgrade?
[21:11] <dsample> Hi.  I'm hoping there's someone here that can help with a mess made by the Alternate install
[21:11] <sebsebseb> southwind: http://www.linuxtoday.com
[21:11] <Alan502> armornick, on dolphin?
[21:11] <armornick> Alan502: oh, don't know, I only use nautilus
[21:11] <sebsebseb> mka: no not really
[21:11] <ShawnRisk> armornick: what else do I do?
[21:11] <sebsebseb> mka: you won't really get any proper advantage if doing that, also things might go wrong on you
[21:11] <Alan502> armornick, how can i make it from the command line=
[21:11] <coz_> dsample,  well  tell us the "mess"  someone who may be familiar with it can help
[21:12] <dsample> I installed it, but I was expecting it to ask me about the bootloader, but it didn't, and now it's overwritten a Pointsec encryption bootloader that is used on my main (windows) drive
[21:12] <armornick> Alan502: chmod, but I don't really know the syntax
[21:12] <Alan502> armornick, does chmod work on devices? like /dev/sdb ?
[21:12] <armornick> ShawnRisk: did you do 'sudo modprobe wl' in a terminal?
[21:12] <coz_> dsample,  yeah I dont recall the alternate cd asking about bootloaders
[21:12] <sebsebseb> mka: also  stay on 9.04 for now :)  then  I would suggest doing a clean install when 10.04 is out,  that way you get Grub 2  by default, and Ext4
[21:12] <xover> it failed lol, because it cant find the codec to read it
[21:12] <xover> LOL
[21:12] <guntbert> karmicuser: please look in /boot/grub/grub.cfg, right in the beginning is stated where the real config sits
[21:12] <coz_> sebsebseb,  absolutely
[21:12] <armornick> Alan502: I don't know about that
[21:13] <duffydack> Alan502, you shouldnt need to set permissions, using sudo should allow all you need..
[21:13] <sebsebseb> coz_: to what? all of that?
[21:13] <mka> sebsebseb: ok thanks, I rather stay on grub 1 then  :)
[21:13] <coz_> sebsebseb,  yes :)
[21:13] <sebsebseb> mka: for now yeah
[21:13] <duffydack> Alan502, its fat32, it doesnt do permissions like that anyway...
[21:13] <duffydack> Alan502, there is something else going on here..
[21:13] <Nalleman> Is it possible to add a google calendar in Evolution 2.28
[21:13] <guntbert> !grub2 | karmicuser
[21:13] <xover> Requested audio codec family [wma9spdmo] (afm=dmo) not available.
[21:13] <sebsebseb> mka: then doing a clean install of Ubuntu with 10.04 when that comes out, is a good idea as I suggested.  by the way if you do that, you can also set up a nice seperate /home which can be useful
[21:14] <dsample> coz_: my first time running the alternate install... I saw a list of install steps after I had an error with networking, and I'm sure I saw 'grub bootloader', 'lilo bootloader', 'no bootloader'
[21:14] <Alan502> duffydack, i have been struggling with it all the morning!!! i dont know what the hell is happening! linux is though :S
[21:14] <dsample> but I was obviously wrong
[21:14] <ShawnRisk> armornick: restarting for a bit, something is wrong
[21:14] <dsample> What I'm hoping is that someone might know if it can be reversed
[21:14] <mka> sebsebseb: I understand
[21:14] <Alan502> in windows it would be just less than five clicks
[21:14] <coz_> dsample,   mm   ok I rarely use the alternate cd anymore  so my information may be old
[21:14] <sebsebseb> mka: easier to set up one when Ubuntu is being installed, than after woulds
[21:14] <duffydack> Alan502, did you make this partition yourself before?  or did it come like this.
[21:15] <Alan502> duffydack, the last time i partitioned it was to install gparted live, i did it with mksf
[21:15] <Alan502> duffydack, that time it worked alright
[21:15] <Alan502> duffydack, dont know what its happening now tho
[21:15] <duffydack> Alan502, is it old?
[21:15] <mka> sebsebseb: It's just my grub 1 "guruhood" is all thrown in a thrash now that grub 2 is the new kid (and grub 1 being obsolete)
[21:16] <sebsebseb> mka: gurhood??
[21:16] <Alan502> duffydack, about two years... but i mean, it still works on windows! i just haven given up
[21:16] <superfirelord42> mka, nothing says you *cant* use grub legacy
[21:16] <userone> my usb modem worked flawlessly in 9.04, but since i have upgraded to 9.10 i have to use 'safely remove drive' before the usb modem works. why is this and do i need to fix it?
[21:16] <sebsebseb> mka: yes that's right upstream Grub no longer do  the old Grub,  but many distros still do, meaning you can still get proper support for it
[21:16] <duffydack> Alan502, try to format it in windows then.......
[21:17] <duffydack> Alan502, flash drives only have a finite number of write operations...  you never know, just could be.
[21:17] <Alan502> duffydack, well i think it is the only way out
[21:17] <Alan502> duffydack, >.< damn linux
[21:17] <sebsebseb> mka: Mandriva 2010 uses the old Grub still :)   I think quite a lot of other distros do as well with their latest version.
[21:17] <Alan502> duffydack, thank you anyway, thanks for your help!
[21:17] <duffydack> Alan502, try format it in windows first.
[21:17] <slapchop> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0,0,0
[21:17] <sebsebseb> mka: the ones that are still being made I mean
[21:17] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[21:17] <Alan502> duffydack, i'll tell you how it goes
[21:17] <duffydack> Alan502, windows wont format it if its reached its life
[21:18] <duffydack> Alan502, maybe why its set to read only
[21:18] <mka> sebsebseb: you are right
[21:18] <N3OInc> adamklu: Any luck?
[21:18] <sebsebseb> mka: it's fine to still be using 9.04, with the old Grub,  since 9.04 is still supported by security updates
[21:18] <Alan502> duffydack, that is what i assume, it is set to read only BY LINUX but in windows i can write into it
[21:18] <Alan502> duffydack, im rebooting to see how it goes, thanks
[21:19] <noisecontrol> dude this font is a trip
[21:19] <adamklu> N3OInc: looks like it is a problem with the code as 9.04 works but not 9.10.  I will just install 8.04 LTS instead.  Oh well :(.
[21:19] <sebsebseb> adamklu: Why not just use 9.04 for now?
[21:19] <jakerbaker> Hello Everyone!!
[21:19] <adamklu> sebsebseb: I may do that but I have an 8.04 LTS template already and can deploy a server in about 2 minutes
[21:20] <Oddlot> Is there any way to revert to the default wireless driver installed by ubuntu?
[21:20] <ShawnRisk> there seems to be no eth0 on here
[21:20] <dsample> Any experience with Pointsec?  Is there a way to repair the 'bootloader' login prompt?
[21:20] <sebsebseb> adamklu: oh server
[21:20] <adamklu> sebsebseb: don't really want to download the image, etc.
[21:20] <sebsebseb> adamklu: for proper serverss,  use the LTS yeah
[21:20] <adamklu> sebsebseb: this was going to be a test rails and dev server -- so versioning wasn't really an issue, i like new on dev boxes
[21:21] <sebsebseb> adamklu: oh ok
[21:21] <pfred1> Can anyone tell me if it is possible to enable single click action in Gnome?
[21:21] <adamklu> anyone know of some good dvorak keyboards for sale?
[21:21] <clone_> hello all am needing some help launching ati catalyst as super user
[21:21] <seevee> can't write or modify "swappiness" - even as root. Suggestions?
[21:22] <adamklu> I'm a programmer and use the keyboard for at least 12 hours a day.
[21:22] <Oddlot> Is there any way to revert to the default wireless driver installed by ubuntu?
[21:22] <dAlfa89_> adamklu, can't you rearrange the keys and the layout options on a qwerty keyboard?
[21:22] <seevee> I tried sudo chmod ugo+w swappiness but that wasn't allowed either. Help?
[21:23] <adamklu> dAlfa89_: yes, but i need dvorak for server work and i cant really install the servers with dvorak as the default as others that need to access in case of an emergency would be like wtf
[21:23] <cwraig> hi all is there any way that i can open an xdmcp connection in a new window on my client
[21:23] <cwraig> so its more like remote desktop
[21:23] <mia> hello
[21:23] <adamklu> and when i say need i really mean -- to be worth anything when typing
[21:23] <Oddlot> Is there any way to revert to the default wireless driver installed by ubuntu?
[21:23] <pfred1> Is there a panel in Gnome where i can configure it to disable double clicking?
[21:24] <Stupendoussteve> pfred1: Tried the mouse preferences?
[21:24] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve I'll give that a look thanks.
[21:24] <coolkehon> hi
[21:24] <ctmjr> xover you still here?
[21:24] <coolkehon> I really need some help
[21:24]  * noisecontrol is making a home DVD - the render time is out of control
[21:24] <coolkehon> my cd burner broke on me while installing distros
[21:24] <sebsebseb> !ask |  coolkehon
[21:24] <coolkehon> i need to install ubuntu
[21:25] <coolkehon> mk
[21:25] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve doesn't look possible just double click timeout I think Gnome likes to double click :(
[21:25] <sebsebseb> !install | coolkehon
[21:25] <userone> can i play orginal dvds without libdvdcss2?
[21:25] <sebsebseb> userone: encrypted commercial DVD's without that no
[21:25] <Stupendoussteve> pfred1: Try in nautilus. Open a folder and look for preferences, I think it's in File or Edit (not in gnome atm)
[21:25] <iceroot> userone: yes, lindvd (non free dvd player)
[21:25] <sebsebseb> userone: unless you do it in say a Windows virtual machine inside Ubuntu for example
[21:25] <mrgenixus> hi, I am having that common issue with blank screen on install using Geforce 9500Gt
[21:26] <iceroot> userone: lindvd == powerdvd for linux
[21:26] <sebsebseb> userone: or what  iceroot  put I guess then
[21:26] <mrgenixus> is there an easy way toget it to load?
[21:26] <coolkehon> ok basically i need to create a usb fro an alternate cd because i want an encrypted swap and root partitons for ubuntu how can i do this and i looked at the guides but didnt understand them to well
[21:26] <duffydack> I dont see a util to trim a dynamic hd file in virtualbox?
[21:26] <iceroot> duffydack: #vbox
[21:26] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve I am not familiar with nautilus is it like the window manager that comes with Ubuntu 9.10?
[21:26] <mrgenixus> I tried using a server-install disk, since I had that... would I be better off using the alternate cd?
[21:26] <Stupendoussteve> pfred1: It's the file manager
[21:26] <adamklu> I am having some severe problems with our asterisk server and would like to setup an ubuntu server for some cool netbooting to deploy the asterisk server -- any good resources out there that would help with netboot and ubuntu -- also what is recommended for asterisk build?
[21:26] <sebsebseb> iceroot: ah yes I forgot about that, there are commercial DVD playing software's that are paid for, for Desktop Linux
[21:26] <iceroot> sebsebseb: correct
[21:26] <paul68> hi how can I connect to my laptop from outside my network crossing 2 different subnets on my server(which is setup as a rooter)
[21:26] <Stupendoussteve> pfred1: It's what the icons are displayed in :) So its preferences should let you choose single click
[21:26] <ctmjr> xover: try it this way if not you can ask in #mplayer mencoder file.wmv -ofps 23.976 -ovc lavc -oac mp3lame -lameopts abr:br=56 -o test.avi
[21:27] <iceroot> sebsebseb: in germany libdvdcss is ilegal (imo)
[21:27] <userone> iceroot: thanks, i will check that out. whats the issue with libdvdcss2? is it not open source or restricted in certain countries?
[21:27] <coolkehon> i'm on backtrack 4 is there a way to install ubuntu from this inside a cryptluks container
[21:27] <iceroot> userone: restricted
[21:27] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve OK I would like single click for desktop launchers too I'm new to Gnome was a KDE fan for a long time.
[21:27] <clone_> does anyone have any expericnce with ati graphics cards?
[21:27] <iceroot> userone: but its working very fine
[21:27] <zane> FUCK
[21:27] <sebsebseb> iceroot: well it's part of medibuntu
[21:27] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve boy is the new KDE botched up!
[21:27] <sebsebseb> !medibuntu |  iceroot userone
[21:28] <Stupendoussteve> pfred1: Open up a folder then go to Edit > Preferences > Behavior
[21:28] <sebsebseb> !language | zane
[21:28] <ctmjr> zane: watch your language
[21:28] <duffydack> found it.. but there should be a gui option for it by now ,,, hmm
[21:28] <iceroot> sebsebseb: i know :) but not in all countrys
[21:28] <jillsmitt> hi
[21:28] <coolkehon> !install
[21:28] <userone> iceroot: ok..thanks for the lindvd tip
[21:28] <iceroot> sebsebseb: in russia its no problem (like everything else..)
[21:28] <mMezquitale> anyone here has a Dell mini netbook?  I ordered a mini netbook and I'm wonderin what version should  install?xubuntu? net remix??
[21:28] <zane> sebsebseb, sorry that was soposed to be in another chanell but this one connected while i was typing
[21:28] <iceroot> userone: why not using libdvdcss2?
[21:28] <coolkehon> !automate
[21:28] <sebsebseb> iceroot: yeah well  stuff like that sure, but  still people recomend it here a lot
[21:28] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve sweet! that's one down now let me find that for the desktop
[21:28] <kostkon> mMezquitale, unr
[21:29] <kostkon> !unr | mMezquitale
[21:29] <Stupendoussteve> pfred1: It should carry over
[21:29] <iceroot> sebsebseb: sure, why not? ;)
[21:29] <michel> ehj
[21:29] <paul68> hi how can I connect to my laptop from outside my network crossing 2 different subnets on my server(which is setup as a rooter)
[21:29] <michel> wazzzzzuuuppp
[21:29] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve whoot! It does!
[21:29] <sebsebseb> zane: I think you need to appologize to ctmjr
[21:29] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve yeah thanks later ugly new KDE hellp working Gnome
[21:29] <iceroot> paul68: put the router in all subnets (eth0, eht0_0) and enable ip-forwarding
[21:29] <Stupendoussteve> You're welcome :)
[21:29] <mMezquitale> kostkon, thanks
[21:30] <zane> sorry dude
[21:30] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve though i have to admit I still like konq for a file manager
[21:30] <Stupendoussteve> It's a big change
[21:30] <nytek_> pfred1: no way, thunar all the way
[21:30] <nytek_> pfred1: :D
[21:31] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve I ran another distro for like 7 years but it was time to upgrade
[21:31] <damjan__> what is the name for ubuntu studio room?
[21:31] <sebsebseb> coolkehon: Back Tract 4 is not a Desktop OS
[21:31] <sebsebseb> coolkehon: it should not be used as one
[21:31] <Stupendoussteve> thunar support smb yet? ;)
[21:31] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve I had KDE 3.1.1
[21:31] <mMezquitale> kostkon, unr can be installed to a USB thumb drive?
[21:31] <sebsebseb> coolkehon: also it's not Ubuntu so  this isn't the channel really for help with it
[21:31] <mMezquitale> damjan__, #ubuntustudio
[21:31] <GodfatherofEire> Guys, I installed the RTL8185L driver, and now thats not quite working properly, so I need to revert back to ubuntu's default wireless driver for my card. How would I go about doing that?
[21:31] <coolkehon> sebsebseb, i know but it works
[21:31] <kostkon> mMezquitale, yeap
[21:31] <ShawnRisk> reinstalling ubuntu 9.10, and than going to install wireless drivers
[21:31] <coolkehon> sebsebseb, i know but it works and i'm trying to install ubuntu form backtrack
[21:31] <ShawnRisk> hope this works
[21:31] <userone> iceroot: just trying to use open source (or non-restricted) whenever i can, but I didnt know an open source alternative to libdvdcss2
[21:31] <Stupendoussteve> GodfatherofEire: Did you install it through the hardware panel?
[21:31] <sebsebseb> coolkehon: it's for a specialist purpouse, DON'T use it as a Desktop OS!
[21:32] <GodfatherofEire> Stupendoussteve, no, had to compile it from source
[21:32] <m4rk> I got a weird error that points to this page http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/17/gnome-power-manager-and-blanking-removal-of-bodges/
[21:32] <coolkehon> sebsebseb, i just happend to have it on a usb and dvd burner broke
[21:32] <tck9> what is ip6tnl0 interface for ?
[21:32] <sebsebseb> coolkehon: also  from Back Track uh, why not do it normalley?
[21:32] <MatBoy> mhh, my login screen flickers on 9.10 after the upgrade some time ago... I can only use one Videocard it seems
[21:32] <sebsebseb> !usb |  coolkehon
[21:32] <MatBoy> no GDM start, nothing
[21:32] <coolkehon> sebsebseb, because i need it on a cryptluks partition
[21:33] <iceroot> userone: lindvd is not open-source :)
[21:33] <paul68> iceroot: ip forwarding is enabled the setup is as follows public ip=> router (<IP_ADDRESS>)<=> (192.168.0.xx)server(192.168.3.xx)<=>wifi switch=>wirelessnetwork including laptop
[21:33] <coolkehon> sebsebseb, i tried it and it asked for a cd when i did it from a usb drive
[21:33] <sebsebseb> coolkehon: not sure what that is, well whatever as long as your not using it as an actsaul Desktop OS, I guess
[21:33] <Blaher> Hello!
[21:33] <Montebest> boot to the previous version, find your video drivers, write down there location
[21:33] <pfred1> MatBoy I had big issues with my video adapter and 9.10 i ended up swapping out the card.
[21:33] <m4rk> I got a weird error that points to this page http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/17/gnome-power-manager-and-blanking-removal-of-bodges/ can u help me
[21:33] <m4rk> plus, gwibber icons are too big. how do i fix that?
[21:33] <Montebest> and then reinstall from recovery mode on the new version
[21:33] <GodfatherofEire> Stupendoussteve, any ideas?
[21:33] <Avp>  I want to contribute for opensource, but I dont ve an idea wot to do. can any one help me???
[21:33] <xover> ctmjr: yes
[21:34] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: Many people got issues after upgrading from 9.04, try a clean install :)
[21:34] <coolkehon> sebsebseb, so how would i get it to install the from a usb drive using the alternate cd so i can do cryptluks
[21:34] <m4rk> Avp can u fix this please http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/17/gnome-power-manager-and-blanking-removal-of-bodges/
[21:34] <m4rk> Avp plus gwibber icons are too big. can u fix that
[21:34] <Blaher> Avp: What do you like?
[21:34] <sebsebseb> coolkehon: I guess you can't
[21:34] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: damn you are sure ?
[21:34] <Avp> thanx , I dont ve any Idea about what to do
[21:34] <MatBoy> pfred1: damn my FX5200 didn't work well anymore
[21:34] <Montebest> @ matboy: boot to the previous version, find your video drivers, write down there location, and then reinstall from recovery mode on the new version
[21:34] <userone> iceroot: that the problem. also I have a friend who LOVES windows and he bet me GBP 100 i couldn't use ONLY open source software to match his applications. so far i am losing with the dvd player.
[21:34] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: about how many people got issues after upgrade, yes very sure indeed
[21:34] <Blaher> Avp: You like graphics?
[21:34] <coolkehon> sebsebseb, well is there a way i can install it from within baktrak
[21:35] <MatBoy> pfred1: my 8600 did well one one monitor
[21:35] <sebsebseb> !love > userone
[21:35] <MatBoy> I have now 2x 9800GTX in it :)
[21:35] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: damn !
[21:35] <Avp> I like system level programin, like adding some new features to an existing application
[21:35] <ctmjr> xover: try it this way if not you can ask in #mplayer mencoder file.wmv -ofps 23.976 -ovc lavc -oac mp3lame -lameopts abr:br=56 -o test.avi
[21:35] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: what is the best way to reinstall it by keeping the same apps as I had ?
[21:35] <Blaher> Avp: What kind of application?
[21:35] <iceroot> userone: libdvdcss2 is open-source
[21:35] <pfred1> MatBoy I could have probably fixed my problem some other way but I didn't want to spend a lot of time on it.
[21:35] <Montebest> @ mstboy you dont have too
[21:35] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: making a list of your apps, and re installing them from the repo?
[21:35] <paul68> iceroot: ip forwarding is enabled the setup is as follows public ip=> router (<IP_ADDRESS>)<=> (192.168.0.xx)server(192.168.3.xx)<=>wifi switch=>wirelessnetwork including laptop
[21:36] <MatBoy> pfred1: so you took another card ?
[21:36] <Montebest> @ matboy: boot to the previous version, find your video drivers, write down there location, and then reinstall from recovery mode on the new version
[21:36] <brova> is there anyone here who can provide some help using awk in terminal i have a noob question in college im stuck on
[21:36] <Avp> any desktop application
[21:36] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: I would like some kickstart thingy :)
[21:36] <userone> sebsebseb; very funny..i will use that on my friend
[21:36] <pfred1> MatBoy yeha popped out hte old one and dropped in another changed from ATI to nvidia
[21:36] <erUSUL> brova: #awk ?
[21:36] <iceroot> paul68: router has the pubic-ip?
[21:36] <erUSUL> !ask | brova
[21:36] <MatBoy> pfred1: I have nvidia and it now happens... when I start GDM it starts
[21:36] <paul68> iceroot: yes
[21:37] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: when I said issues  I didn't mean with your cards, I meant in general
[21:37] <MatBoy> was the 5200 card not supported anymore in the latest drivers ?
[21:37] <pfred1> MatBoy with the old one everytime I dragged a window I'd get these artifacts on my desktop looked like a meteor shower or something
[21:37] <Montebest> HEY MATBOY @ matboy: boot to the previous version, find your video drivers, write down there location, and then reinstall from recovery mode on the new version
[21:37] <piti> hi #ubuntu
[21:37] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: What can happen after an upgrade from  a previous version of Ubuntu is that hardware that used to work,  doesn't in the new version
[21:37] <jigal> hello i tried to login to my phpmyadmin with root and empty pw
[21:37] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: ok
[21:37] <paul68> iceroot: iptables running on the serverside
[21:37] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: ok, I need a reinstall
[21:37] <MatBoy> damn
[21:37] <jigal> doesn't work
[21:37] <jigal> but on mysql works
[21:37] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: maybe, maybe not
[21:37] <Montebest> NO YOU DONT MATBOY
[21:37] <iceroot> paul68: and ip-forwarind in /proc/...?
[21:37] <Montebest> @ matboy: boot to the previous version, find your video drivers, write down there location, and then reinstall from recovery mode on the new version
[21:38] <jigal> anyone know why?
[21:38] <Avp> m4rk::can u tell me wot is gwibber
[21:38] <brova> i have a file, "f1" which has hundreds of lines. how can i use awk to add the sum of all the lines in my text document
[21:38] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: it seems  Montebest  may be able to help so do what they say I guess
[21:38] <pfred1> MatBoy did you try running nvidia-xconfig ?
[21:38] <piti> I have a question about network manager: it doesn't let me having two network interfaces at the same time. both work, but I can't use them simultaneously
[21:38] <piti> one is ethernet, this other usb
[21:38] <erUSUL> brova: you want to count the lines? as "wc -l" ?
[21:38] <MatBoy> Montebest: I need you :)
[21:39] <Montebest> i had that problem, it pissed me off to no ent
[21:39] <Montebest> d
[21:39] <Montebest> boot to the previous version, find your video drivers, write down there location, and then reinstall from recovery mode on the new version
[21:39] <ZaNeIuM> ActionParsnip: that last step seemed to work for me thank you
[21:39] <iceroot> paul68: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[21:39] <koko_> how can you make more space in a guest session in 9.10
[21:39] <userone> iceroot: ok..so maybe i wont include 'restricted' software as part of the bet :-)
[21:39] <pfred1> MatBoy I dropped to init 1 and ran nvidia-xconfig and things worked better for me.
[21:39] <iceroot> userone: yes :) good idea
[21:39] <MatBoy> Montebest: but I don't get it, boot in recovery mode ?
[21:39] <erUSUL> brova: awk 'END {print NR}' file
[21:39] <brova> erUSL: i want to mathematically add the sum of the lines
[21:39] <Montebest> you use grub right
[21:39] <ShawnRisk> why is broadcom wireless so bad
[21:40] <brova> erUSUL: i want to mathematically add the sum of the lines *****
[21:40] <jigal> question: i try to login to mysql with phpmyadmin but i can't get in. But when i login command line wit mysql -uroot -p
[21:40] <sebsebseb> !who |  Montebest
[21:40] <jigal> i login
[21:40] <nytek_> ShawnRisk: its not, im using it without a problem
[21:40] <userone> iceroot: i have to say, to be fair to my friend, he was blown away when he saw Blender and that it was all open source
[21:40] <ShawnRisk> nytek_: which number?  I have 4311
[21:40] <MatBoy> Montebest: yes but what "previous" version ?
[21:40] <erUSUL> brova: so lines are numbers (1 column) ? you want to sum them ?
[21:40] <pfred1> userone I was blown away when I tried to use Blender
[21:40] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: I think maybe they mean 9.04 Live CD
[21:40] <ShawnRisk> nytek_: can I pm you?
[21:40] <Avp> I want to contribute for opensource, but I dont ve an idea wot to do. can any one help me??? I realy like to add new features to any existing desktop application, but I dont ve any idea plz help me
[21:41] <Montebest> !who |Matboy
[21:41] <nytek_> ShawnRisk: sure
[21:41] <iceroot> userone: like apache, firefox, mysql, openoffice, linux, open-exchange and so on
[21:41] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: and if your going to be getting one anyway, maybe you should just remove 9.10 and put that on :)
[21:41] <erUSUL> !participate
[21:41] <iceroot> userone: quake3 also
[21:41] <Montebest> lo
[21:41] <MatBoy> Montebest: I do :)
[21:41] <MatBoy> Montebest: you didn't :P
[21:41] <brova> erUSUL yes, so far my cut command i am using is:   cut -f4 -d ' ' f1
[21:41] <sebsebseb> Montebest: also I did the who  thing at you, not him :D
[21:41] <brova> erUSUL: im trying to add the sum of that output, i cant seem to get my head around this one
[21:41] <jigal> QUESTION: i try to login to mysql with phpmyadmin but i can't get in. But when i login command line wit mysql -uroot -p i can succesfully log in. what am i doing wrong?
[21:41] <Eftarjin> hi. how do i restart X from the command line in karmic ? /etc/init.d/gdm restart has been replaced and service gdm restart doesn’t help…
[21:41] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: back to 9.04 ?
[21:42] <Montebest> how?
[21:42] <Montebest> i dont understand
[21:42] <pfred1> Eftarjin startx ?
[21:42] <sebsebseb> !tab |  Montebest
[21:42] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: hehe
[21:42] <Eftarjin> pfred1: no, i want to kill a stuck X session
[21:42] <LasBuntu> how can I more files in nautilus as root?
[21:42] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: you have better experience with 9.04 ?
[21:42] <LasBuntu> ermove files
[21:42] <pfred1> Eftarjin ctrl+alt+ backspace kills X sessions in X
[21:42] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: yes
[21:42] <iceroot> !gksudo | LasBuntu
[21:43] <userone> iceroot: yeah...he didnt realise that 75% (or more?) of servers in the world run apache, which is open source, and not windows base
[21:43] <koko_> Any place one can read up on the guest session
[21:43] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: mhh, me too
[21:43] <Montebest> ok
[21:43] <LasBuntu> iceroot: thanks
[21:43] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: well I  had like one little problem with 9.10, but other then that it worked fine
[21:43] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: I thought I was crazy
[21:43] <Eftarjin> pfred1: that was disabled in karmic…
[21:43] <coldboot> I've got Ubuntu 9.10 installed, and I'm using Nvidia TwinView. How do I drag a newly created "panel" to the other screen?
[21:43] <pfred1> Eftarjin eeewww
[21:43] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: ,but I left it for another distro, since I didn't like the new features of 9.10
[21:43] <iceroot> userone: of course :)
[21:43] <m0ar> I need help installing Quod Libet
[21:43] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: and didn't want to put 9.04 back on
[21:43] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: mhh I like 9.10 actually, but the upgrades every time
[21:43] <Montebest> MatBoy: on grub you can see that there are four Ubuntus
[21:44] <erUSUL> brova: avoiding the use of cut (i guess you want to sum the numbers in the 4 column). « awk '{ sum += $4 } END {print sum}' file »
[21:44] <xover> its time for vmware server to come into play
[21:44] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: what about the upgrades?
[21:44] <jigal> QUESTION: i try to login to mysql with phpmyadmin but i can't get in. But when i login command line wit mysql -uroot -p i can succesfully log in. what am i doing wrong?
[21:45] <m0ar> When I try to install Quod Libet it nags on me for some dependencies, how to install them?
[21:45] <MatBoy> Montebest: yes
[21:45] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: I have had such thing before
[21:45] <mMezquitale> jigal, are you at least using all your appz in ubuntu?  LoL  Either way that doesnt sound like an issue with ubuntu, I suggest you go to a programming language, maybe #perl
[21:45] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: something about upgrades, your not being clear
[21:45] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: can you verify if the FX5200 is not supported anymore in the latest nvidia drivers for linux ?
[21:46] <pfred1> m0ar synaptic solves my deps for me
[21:46] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: no
[21:46] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: with upgrade, I needed to reinstall in the past because of something like this
[21:46] <m0ar> pfred1: Just trying to install from there=?
[21:46] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: ok thanks
[21:46] <pfred1> m0ar its all I use
[21:46] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: and Nivida  drivers usaully just work on Ubuntu :)
[21:46] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: yes, but I thought the 5xxx serie was not supported anymore
[21:46] <pfred1> sebsebseb mine worked better after I ran nvidia-xconfig
[21:46] <MatBoy> maybe I bought 2x 9800gtx for nothing :P
[21:47] <brova> erUSUL: i figured it out before you told me :D this is what i had though
[21:47] <brova> erUSUL: awk '{ SUM += $1} END { print SUM }' pricesList
[21:47] <sebsebseb> pfred1: uhmm better of messaging MatBoy with stuff like that,  it's not me with the problem :)
[21:47] <sebsebseb> off bove not of
[21:47] <sebsebseb> above
[21:47] <samba_> !paste | samba_
[21:47] <sebsebseb> !fishing |  samba_
[21:48] <sebsebseb> samba_: maybe wrong factoid for that, but you can pm the bot, for factoids
[21:48] <pfred1> MatBoy which driver you running the binary or nv ?
[21:48] <MatBoy> pfred1: binary
[21:48] <MatBoy> pfred1: 185
[21:48] <m0ar> Gah, I just got a massive error from Update Manager, repo fetching-problems or something
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: seems supported by the 173 driver in karmic
[21:49] <pfred1> m0ar too many Black Monday Internet shoppers online!
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: the 5200
[21:50] <ED6EY> Hey guys, i'm having trouble getting the program macchanger to work....i'm entering macchanger -r <interface> and it doesn't return an error. However when i check my MacID it doesn't appear any different. Anyone have any ideas on what could be wrong?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> ED6EY: you can set mac addresses in /etc/network/interfaces file
[21:51] <MatBoy> ActionParsnip: yap, after that not anymore I thought
[21:51] <ED6EY> thanks i'll give that a try
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> ED6EY: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu/
[21:52] <MatBoy> but it seems that I need a reinstall
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: nvidia support a LOT of their legacy cards, ati seem to drop them like they are diseased which i think is ridiculous
[21:52] <pfred1> MatBoy bummer what happened?
[21:52] <boss_mc> I recently upgraded from Jaunty to Karmic and I'm having problems with mpd, I've got it set to use the pulse output, mpd is in the audio group.  Music plays fine in MPD but it does not appear as a program under the sound preferences page and no other app can play sound.  Any ideas?
[21:53] <paul68> iceroot: is done sorry for the delay in the replay my little kid needed help
[21:53] <emilio> como puedo descargar los plugins de linux?? se instalan pero no sirven!!
[21:53] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: not  as such, but many people got issues after upgrading from Jaunty
[21:53] <sebsebseb> !es |  erUSUL
[21:53] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: wrong one :)
[21:53] <boss_mc> sebsebseb: a clean karmic install on my eee works perfectly, but upgrading should work too :-)
[21:54] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: useually upgrades go well
[21:54] <lwhacker> Dell Inspiron 1501; SATA ATI SB600 controller; error: "soft reset failure"; kernel 2.6.31-15; kernel has workaround patch, but problem persists; any ideas what else can be done?
[21:54] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: ,but his hasn't been the case for many when it came to 9.04 to 9.10
[21:54] <MatBoy> ActionParsnip: mhh, but Nvidia did the same now :)
[21:54] <MatBoy> pfred1: it doesn't want to run :)
[21:54] <sebsebseb> this not his above
[21:55] <seidos> lwhacker: only thing i can think of is using an older kernel to see if you get the same problem
[21:55] <pfred1> MatBoy can't even recover off a CD?
[21:55] <boss_mc> sebsebseb: yeah, everything else went pretty well, the other issue I had (not updating grub to use new kernel) was basically my fault...
[21:55] <MatBoy> pfred1: maybe, first need to backup ;)
[21:55] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: well  your not meant to get the new  Grub on upgrade
[21:55] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: also if you try and install it yourself afterwoulds you might get issues
[21:55] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: plus  no Ext4 on upgrade for those 9.04 Ext3 installs
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: http://ns2.canonical.com/en/karmic/misc/nvidia-glx-96  search the page for 5200
[21:56] <aperson> I cannot have any tmpfs entries in my fstab, when I do, my system won't boot and says that it can't mount the root filesystem.  here's my fstab, with the tmpfs lines commented out http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/331970/  can anyone help?
[21:56] <boss_mc> sebsebseb: nah, not that, I told it to use my old grub config (stupidly) so it didn't add the new kernel to the menu.lst, fixed that now (and installed GRUB2 no probs)
[21:56] <boss_mc> sebsebseb: already had ext4 from my jaunty install
[21:56] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: ok and Grub 2 does not hae menu.lst
[21:56] <Aijse> Any know of a web based torrent client that has the ability to choose a folder for each download?
[21:56] <Aijse> transmission lacks this very basic option to choose directory per file
[21:56] <MatBoy> ActionParsnip: I wanted to know if it's stil, supported on the 185 driver, I thought it didn't... 96 was last ?
[21:56] <MatBoy> or that 176
[21:56] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: have not hae
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: its not in the 185
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: seems to be in the 173
[21:58] <mka> aperson: why do you want to mount tmpfs?
[21:58] <Newbien00b> :p
[21:58] <aperson> mka: because I want to keep my temp dirs in ram
[21:58] <Newbien00b> shut up
[21:58] <zane> hi i am using ubuntu 9.10 64bit and for some reason banshee only sees my ipod every now and then.. i have to restart my computer and hope that it banshee will see my ipod. any ideas?
[21:59] <aperson> mka, but why isn't the matter, it's why is this not working
[22:00] <aperson> I don't see anything wrong with those four entries
[22:00] <mka> aperson: it could be that you mount tmpfs to /var/log  for example and then later on mount /var
[22:00] <mka> aperson: are you sure about your sequence of mounting?
[22:00] <boss_mc> Anyone else?  I recently upgraded from Jaunty to Karmic and I'm having problems with mpd, I've got it set to use the pulse output, mpd is in the audio group.  Music plays fine in MPD but it does not appear as a program under the sound preferences page and no other app can play sound.  Any ideas?
[22:00] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: could try a clean install, your issue may go away then
[22:00] <aperson> mka: someone needs to change the ubuntu wiki then, that's how they have it ^-*
[22:01] <mka> aperson: URL please
[22:01] <aperson> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/331970/
[22:01] <aperson> ohh
[22:01] <boss_mc> sebsebseb: hmmm, quite a lot of hassle (I've customized my setup over 6 months), and I have no CD drive or USB pen....
[22:01] <aperson> you mean the wiki
[22:01] <aperson> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Using#Reducing%20Drive%20Writes
[22:01] <puff> Does empathy handle AIM??
[22:01] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: oh ok
[22:02] <filezilla_user> hi um
[22:02] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: well good luck getting your issue fixied or well trying to get it fixed
[22:02] <filezilla_user> can I have some help??
[22:02] <N3OInc> empathy should
[22:02] <A1Robot> (  ____ \(  ____ \(  ____ \(  ____ \(  ____ \
[22:02] <A1Robot> | (    \/| (    \/| (    \/| (    \/| (    \/
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[22:02] <A1Robot> |  __)   |  __)   | |      |  __)   (_____  )
[22:02] <FloodBot4> A1Robot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:02] <sebsebseb> !ask |  filezilla_user
[22:02] <N3OInc> Pidgin
[22:03] <MatBoy> ActionParsnip: yes, and I want to be updated :) so I ditch the card ;)
[22:03] <aperson> mka, I'm going to just throw /tmp into ram and see if that works
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: your call dude
[22:03] <aperson> mka, if it does, I just may leave it at that
[22:03] <filezilla_user> I need a 200mb .rar file hosted on a website to uploaded to my remote machine without me sitting there uploading it thru filezilla or other ftp client
[22:03] <A1Robot> (  ____ \(  ____ \(  ____ \(  ____ \(  ____ \
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: my onboard 6150 works reat on the 19 0driver
[22:03] <A1Robot> | (    \/| (    \/| (    \/| (    \/| (    \/
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[22:03] <A1Robot> | (      | (      | |      | (            ) |
[22:03] <A1Robot> | )      | (____/\| (____/\| (____/\/\____) |
[22:03] <FloodBot4> A1Robot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> *190
[22:04] <sebsebseb> !ops | A1Robot
[22:04] <Montebest> wtf
[22:04] <LLStarks> can someone help me out.
[22:04] <LLStarks> E: Build-Depends dependency for gst-plugins-base0.10 cannot be satisfied because the package gir-repository-dev cannot be found
[22:05] <PyroPhelia> any lag experts around?
[22:05] <mka> aperson: try replacing that 2 by 0 in that field that mounts /var
[22:05] <sebsebseb> !language |  Montebest
[22:05] <Montebest> srry
[22:05] <PyroPhelia> wtf is considered non family friendly?
[22:05] <PyroPhelia> o.O?
[22:05] <sebsebseb> PyroPhelia: yep
[22:06] <dAlfa89_> PyroPhelia, think of what it stands for, I'd say that's family unfriendly
[22:06] <tsimpson> think about what the acronym means, so no, it's not
[22:06] <aperson> mka, well, I'm here, which means having /tmp alone in ram works
[22:06] <LLStarks> E: Build-Depends dependency for gst-plugins-base0.10 cannot be satisfied because the package gir-repository-dev cannot be found
[22:06] <LLStarks> what's going on here?
[22:06] <pfred1> dAlfa89_ if you know then who cares?
[22:06] <PyroPhelia> could be what the fudge? :P
[22:06] <aperson> mka, but I do swear I've had that set up before and working
[22:06] <PyroPhelia> it's ambigious for a reason
[22:06] <PyroPhelia> such as RTFM
[22:06] <PyroPhelia> read the fine manual :)
[22:06] <mka> aperson: the prime suspect is the sequence of mounting
[22:07] <mka> aperson: if you master that then fine,
[22:07] <tsimpson> PyroPhelia: there are alternatives to saying that, so just don't use it
[22:07] <aperson> mka, ah, well, that wiki page needs to be worked on anyways
[22:07] <mka> aperson: if for example, your /var was not on a separate filesystem this would work
[22:07] <mka> aperson: not really
[22:08] <aperson> mka: that page has a bunch of info that needs updating :)
[22:08] <pfred1> leave #ubuntu
[22:08] <aperson> in any case, thanks mka
[22:09] <mka> aperson: no prob
[22:10] <addisonj> hey, using the live CD, is it possible to boot just to a live console?
[22:11] <aperson> mka, looking back, I don't know why I was wanting to mount /var in tmpfs anyways, I have it on a separate filesystem anyways.  I think I just saw all that on the page and though it'd be a good idea.  oh well :)
[22:11] <mementomori> hi
[22:11] <mka> mementomori: hi
[22:11] <mementomori> how can I access grub2 menu at startup?
[22:12] <mementomori> !grub
[22:12] <mementomori> !grub2
[22:12] <Cr`eme> Hello :)
[22:12] <kevin__> hello
[22:12] <Flare183> !hi | kevin__
[22:13] <VCoolio> mementomori: keep shift pressed at boot
[22:13] <kevin__> cool, thanks
[22:13] <wolfslack> how do i add an application to launch in every gnome session at startup. (no gui please)
[22:14] <mementomori> VCoolio, just after the bios loading?
[22:14] <VCoolio> mementomori: exactly
[22:14] <mementomori> I'm trying
[22:15]  * noisecontrol is watching t3h matr1x in high def
[22:15] <izua> hello. i want to set up a virtual network card. i'm developing a .ko for ethercat (industrial protocol over ethernet) but i haven't found a lot of information about setting up a card
[22:15] <mementomori> VCoolio, thank you. it works
[22:15] <wolfslack> If a cow could fly, could one call it a "cow-fly'er"?
[22:15] <izua> to develop this right i'd need two boxes, one of them with to ethernet cards
[22:16] <izua> but that's too much of a bother, so i'm just going to simulate the second box. is this possible?
[22:16] <noisecontrol> hey cool 88% done with my DVD burning on pc2
[22:16] <sebsebseb> !ot |  noisecontrol
[22:17] <Rioting_Pacifist> is it work using rsync over a lan (because bandwidth isn't really an issue?)?
[22:18] <flagpolesitta> I accidentally opened a mp4 file with real player and now I have to right click it and choose movieplayer if I want to open it that way (it automatically opened it that way before). If I try to open an mp4 from the Firefox Downloads list, it just tries to open it in realplayer as well. I selected movieplayer as the default in Preferred Applications. Realplayer doesnt seem to work for watching mp4s in any case. Can anyone help?
[22:18] <mattgyver> Hi, im trying to install ubuntu 9.10 server all works fine but it fails when trying to install grub2, any ideas?
[22:18] <sebsebseb> mattgyver: if your doing a proper server,  the LTS is recommended
[22:19] <sebsebseb> !server |  mattgyver
[22:19] <VCoolio> flagpolesitta: set mplayer in the 'open with' tab in the properties window of a mp4 file
[22:19] <danub> hey all, how do i stop knetwork managggggggggggggggger from using the auto eth config instead of my home config? when it starts up it uses auto eth which isn't configured correctly. I want to make it use home as the default connection and start with the system
[22:20] <flagpolesitta> VCoolio: thanks that worked
[22:20] <nemo> Hey, my mom, who is quite a ways away, shut down here computer in the middle of an upgrade to 9.10.  She has since run apt-get update/upgrade and is mostly back to normal
[22:21] <nemo> But, she is missing little ubuntu touches. Such as the ubuntu software store or ubuntu one
[22:21] <VCoolio> flagpolesitta: that's for everything the way to set a default app in gnome
[22:21] <nemo> is there some way to rerun the install to pick this stuff up?
[22:21] <nemo> s/here computer/her computer/
[22:21] <boss_mc> nemo, has she tried installing ubuntu-desktop (the meta package that installs the basic programs)?
[22:21] <sebsebseb> nemo:  if it's pretty much 9.10,  those can probably just be installed from the repo
[22:21] <mementomori> after a kernel update the X server doesn't start correctly because of the nvidia driver. How can I reconfigure it?
[22:22] <nemo> sebsebseb: yeah. I just wasn't sure what was missing
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> nemo: sudo apt-get install software-centre-gtl ubuntuone-client-gtk
[22:23] <nemo> I'll install the packages ActionParsnip suggested - but is there anything else the installer might have done ?
[22:23] <AmokPaule> If i create partions under windows will ubuntu on installation see these and can i use them?
[22:23] <sebsebseb> nemo: not much difference between 9.04 and 9.10
[22:24] <mementomori> AmokPaule, yes
[22:24] <nemo> AmokPaule: yes
[22:24] <nemo> heh
[22:24] <AmokPaule> sweet thanks
[22:24] <mementomori> ;)
[22:24] <coz_> AmokPaule,  it surely should be seen
[22:24] <sebsebseb> nemo: except for what you mentioned, some boot up and log in changes,  and themes
[22:24] <nemo> AmokPaule: if you want them to automount you might have to change some settings - unless things have changed recently
[22:24] <nemo> AmokPaule: used to be automounting had to be explicitly configured, in 9.04
[22:24] <mattgyver> sebsebseb, this is really just a home server not really much more so im okay with not using the LTS version, i didnt have a boot flag set on either of the partition im retrying to see if that was why, thanks tho
[22:24] <sebsebseb> nemo: and Ext4 and Grub 2  for clean installs by default
[22:24] <AmokPaule> i just want to install ubuntu in one of those partions
[22:24] <nemo> sebsebseb: hm. well. ext4 I can fix
[22:25] <sebsebseb> nemo: well Ext4 isn't really needed in 9.10
[22:25] <nemo> sebsebseb: although I'm too nervous to modify to grub2 from here (3,000km away)
[22:25] <nemo> yeah. best to wait I guess
[22:25] <sebsebseb> nemo: I did a test in fact, 9.10 with Ext3 and Ext4
[22:25] <sebsebseb> nemo: and  the old Grub is fine for now
[22:26] <sebsebseb> nemo: If you clean install 10.04 though,  then you get them sure,  and if that install isnt' a proper 9.10 for whatever reason/s  could just use that for now and clean install 10.04?
[22:27] <Hans_Henrik> i've long had a problem with "getting better WLAN range on WinXP than Ubuntu", and.. for some reason, i get better WLAN range after sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng;airmon-ng start wlan0;  - can any1 explain? :p
[22:27] <sebsebseb> nemo: end of April 2010,  and the next Long Term Support release, if you didn't already know
[22:27] <argued> how do I change or force the cursor theme using gconf?
[22:27] <sebsebseb> nemo: 10.04 not 2010 above
[22:27] <HarmK1> Hey, i just tried to upgrade my PC and now it wont start
[22:28] <sebsebseb> HarmK1: as in from 9.04 to 9.10?
[22:28] <HarmK1> sebsebseb: no as in hardware
[22:28] <sebsebseb> HarmK1: oh
[22:28] <Glowball> Hmm, wasn't g++ pre-installed on Jaunty?
[22:28] <sebsebseb> HarmK1: well ##hardware then
[22:29] <dusty1> hi
[22:30] <sebsebseb> Glowball: not sure, but  sounds like one of the packages that would probably be pre installed
[22:30] <seidos> is it hardware problem or a software problem?
[22:30] <PhantomLink> I need the link for the 9.04 LTS LiveCD iso please.
[22:30] <dusty1> i have recently installed ubuntu and just today at random my firefox has stopped working
[22:30] <sebsebseb> dusty1: hi
[22:30] <sebsebseb> dusty1: please be more specific, what did you mean exactly by that?
[22:30] <Glowball> sebsebseb: I thought it was. But it looks like it isn't on Karmic...
[22:30] <ortsvorsteher> PhantomLink, there is no 9.04 lts. it will be new at 10.4
[22:30] <sebsebseb> Glowball: oh ok
[22:31] <PhantomLink> Oh okay
[22:31] <dusty1> sebsebseb: i go to launch the application and it does not launch thus i try to launch from terminal and it gives me a
[22:31] <dusty1> dustin@dustin-desktop:~$ firefox
[22:31] <dusty1> Segmentation fault
[22:31] <dusty1> dustin@dustin-desktop:~$
[22:31] <FloodBot4> dusty1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:31] <Glowball> sebsebseb: Sound kinda weird to me to remove that one :/
[22:31] <PhantomLink> Hey, the USB diskl
[22:31] <sebsebseb> dusty1: hmm
[22:31] <PhantomLink> can that be used as a liveCD type thing?
[22:31] <sebsebseb> dusty1: that error means something, I have seen  people say it before in here or whatever it was
[22:31] <dusty1> sebsebseb: i tried to uninstall it and reinstall and nothing has helped
[22:32] <sebsebseb> dusty1: Firefox can go a bit bad on Ubuntu, useualy, because of Flash though
[22:32] <PhantomLink> I am getting a new laptop, and lost my ubuntu livecd and don't feel like redownloading it.
[22:32] <sebsebseb> dusty1: you can  try removing .mozilla from home it's a hidden folder, with your Firefox user settings
[22:32] <dusty1> sebsebseb: yes in installed flash and then went to restart the browser, that is when it started to screw up
[22:32] <sebsebseb> dusty1: there are also many good alternative browsers for Desktop Linux :)
[22:32] <coz_> PhantomLink,  ah oh then no ubuntu for you :)
[22:32] <PhantomLink> coz_, D:
[22:32] <benjamin_> How do i change my username for MSN in the Empathy IM?
[22:32] <PhantomLink> I like ubuntu!
[22:33] <dusty1> sebsebseb: i'm using opera right now, as for the hidden folder how do i view it?
[22:33] <sebsebseb> dusty1: what has happended for me before, is that Flash messed up in Ubuntu, but was fine in other browsers in Ubuntu
[22:33] <PhantomLink> I'll find my CD then.
[22:33] <benjamin_> dustyl: try cntrl+h
[22:33] <coz_> PhantomLink,  well the only way I know of doing this is to either order a cd or download it
[22:33] <PhantomLink> Thank you for your helo.
[22:33] <sebsebseb> Dutchy: open home up graphicalley yeah
[22:33] <PhantomLink> help*
[22:33] <sebsebseb> Dutchy: wrong one
[22:33] <sebsebseb> dusty1: above
[22:33] <xover> hi all
[22:33] <sebsebseb> dusty1: then view > show hidden  files and folders
[22:33] <benjamin_> How do i change my username for MSN in the Empathy IM?
[22:33] <xover> i have added samba to firestart exclusions and yet i still cant access the system unless i turn off firestarter
[22:34] <sebsebseb> dusty1: or use the keyboard shortcut which is ctrl  + h  I think
[22:34] <benjamin_> sebsebseb: that's the right shortcut :)
[22:34] <dusty1> sebsebseb: yep that did it ill delete the folder to see waht happens
[22:34] <benjamin_> How do i change my username for MSN in the Empathy IM?!
[22:34] <sebsebseb> dusty1: re name .mozilla move it, delete it,  whatever you want to do with it really,  just don't have it in  the main home folder
[22:34] <sebsebseb> benjamin_: ok ty
[22:34] <yeason> I'm running ubuntu 9.10 x64 and while watching movies I'm getting what I think can be described as horizontal clipping... basically there is a horizontal line or break across the screen, it gets worse in action. Any suggestions for fixing this?
[22:34] <xover> this is my samba rule <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[22:35] <piperfan> hello everyone, I'm trying to workaroud SiS graphics bug by editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it doesn't seem to exist in 9.10, any ideas?
[22:35] <sebsebseb> piperfan: SIS hmm
[22:35] <benjamin_> sebsebseb: np, can you help solve my problem? :)
[22:35] <sebsebseb> piperfan: What is the problem your getting?
[22:35] <benjamin_> How do i change my username for MSN in the Empathy IM?!
[22:35] <duffydack> SIS should be banned from making anything
[22:35] <dusty1> sebsebseb" I just tried to delete the folder, it deleted and then i went to load firefox and got the same error :(
[22:35] <samuli--> piperfan, you can make one and the xserver will read it
[22:35] <piperfan> tried dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it doesn't do anything
[22:35] <sebsebseb> piperfan: as far as I know there isn't really any  Desktop Linux support from SIS
[22:35] <duffydack> Ive never had so much trouble installing ubuntu and getting it to work than with an sis chipset.
[22:36] <samuli--> piperfan, Xorg-configure is similar now
[22:36] <sebsebseb> piperfan: and it would be  rather difficult for the  Desktop Linux developers to reverse enginer something
[22:36] <sebsebseb> piperfan: for SIS
[22:36] <dusty1> sebsebseb: well i guess ill be stuck using opera?
[22:36] <xkpe> hello
[22:36] <sebsebseb> dusty1: not quite
[22:36] <ctmjr> yeason: are you using an ati graphics card?
[22:36] <sebsebseb> dusty1: as I said quite a lot of other good browsers as well
[22:36] <xover> why doesnt firestarter work?
[22:36] <yeason> nope, nvidia, have the glx-185 drivers installed
[22:37] <dusty1> sebsebseb: what one would you recommend?
[22:37] <xover> fcking computers
[22:37] <sebsebseb> dusty1: Give Epiphany and Galeon a try.  Konqueror even if you don't mind putting on KDE stuff,  well you might have already done that.
[22:37] <piperfan> is there a way to create the xorg.conf file?
[22:37] <yeason> ctmjr: nope, nvidia, have the glx-185 drivers installed
[22:37] <sebsebseb> !browsers |  dusty1
[22:37] <xkpe> i installed imagemagick (apt-get install imagemagick) but the command convert its not available, has anyone used this on ubuntu? what can i be doing wrong?
[22:37] <sebsebseb> dusty1: sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser if you do  sudo apt-get install epiphany it will put on a game
[22:37] <kbp> I need help. When i type "http://localhost/" it does not goes to localhost and show error page, how to fix it?
[22:37] <Samuli^> piperfan, you can make one yourself or use "Xorg-configure" which will make one for you
[22:38] <g__> hi, has anyone experience of compressing video for iphones on linux?
[22:38] <dusty1> downloading epiphany browser right now :)
[22:38] <Samuli^> piperfan, xorg.conf isn't needed anymore because the autodetection is so good, but the xserver still reads the xorg.conf if you have one
[22:38] <sebsebseb> dusty1: you could also try Firefox with a Flash alternative
[22:38] <sebsebseb> dusty1: there's  Gnash and Swfdec
[22:38] <sebsebseb> dusty1: as far as I know can only have one installed at a time though
[22:38] <ctmjr> yeason: you can turn off visual effects like compiz and see if it goes away if it does you can add somethings to xorg to fix it
[22:39] <dusty1> sebsebseb: i have been quite impressed with how customizable gnome is, i have made it to look and feel like OS X,  as for the flash thing i have tired that once already
[22:39] <N3OInc> Peace ya'll, hit me up if you need me.
[22:39] <sebsebseb> dusty1: for both of those programs?
[22:39] <yeason> ctmjr: I don't think I'm using any visual effects... its a default ubuntu install, brand new install actually
[22:39] <argued> is there a way to change the cursor theme / pointer in gnome using gconf and have compiz activated? Anyone with same issue?
[22:39] <piperfan> if I put xorg-configure I get command not found
[22:40] <sebsebseb> dusty1: oh you have themed it like OS X,  seems quite a lot of Ubuntu users want to do at, at least at some stage.   by the way avant window manager is a popular dock, but Cairo  Dock is meant to be the best one
[22:40] <nowimproved> Alsamixers volume settings restart after every reboot
[22:40] <Samuli^> piperfan, it's Xorg-configure
[22:40] <nowimproved> please help
[22:40] <sebsebseb> nowimproved: Which version of Ubuntu?
[22:40] <dusty1> sebsebseb: nah im not using a dock i have customized my button panel, because AVANT was screwing up
[22:40] <nowimproved> sebi`, latest
[22:41] <sebsebseb> nowimproved: ok so 9.10,  is this with a clean install or upgrade?
[22:41] <nowimproved> sebsebseb, clean, this has happened to me since I used gentoo
[22:41] <sebsebseb> nowimproved: oh
[22:41] <nowimproved> I always forget how to fix it
[22:41] <sebsebseb> nowimproved: so not some Ubuntu pulseaudio issue it seems
[22:41] <nowimproved> sebsebseb, unlikely
[22:42] <piperfan> Xorg-configure gives me same - command not found
[22:42] <Samuli^> piperfan, sorry, it's Xorg -configure
[22:42] <sebsebseb> nowimproved: sound isn't my area,  I thought maybe something had gone wrong for you after an upgrade from 9.04
[22:42] <Samuli^> :)
[22:42] <sebsebseb> nowimproved: if its' a general issue you can also ask help for it in ##linux
[22:42] <sebsebseb> !sound |  nowimproved
[22:42] <ctmjr> yeason: look in the main menu under  preferences > appearance and the effects tab and choose none
[22:43] <sebsebseb> nowimproved: well even if it wasn't you could
[22:43] <dusty1> i have one last dumb question, is there anyway that i could make folders that contain shortcuts to everything that is in the application, places, and system menus?
[22:43] <sebsebseb> dusty1: try and right click on icons in the menu :)
[22:43] <dusty1> ok
[22:44] <piperfan> for Xorg -configure I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/331993/
[22:44] <yeason> ctmjr: done... we've got a movie on so I'll let you know soon if that didn't do it, thnx for the help so far =D
[22:44] <sebsebseb> dusty1: I am not on Gnome right now, in fact I am not even on Ubuntu right now,  but  I think you will get options for adding short cuts to the desktop and the panel
[22:44] <ctmjr> yeason: ok
[22:44] <dusty1> ok thanks cuse i have a panel add on tha tmakes a mac style bar at the top and it looks funny with the other
[22:45] <dusty1> but ig otta go
[22:45] <Samuli^> piperfan, yesh.. you can't configure X if it's running.
[22:45] <piperfan> ah fair enough
[22:45] <Samuli^> you need to do that in cli
[22:45]  * NaxoneZ nas
[22:46] <piperfan> I'll give it a go, thanks for all your help Samuli^ and sebsebseb
[22:46] <Samuli^> also.. it doesn't write the file directly to X11/xorg.conf... it makes a file to /root/xorg.new.conf you need to copy (and edit, if you wish) to /X11/
[22:46] <nemo> sebsebseb: yeah. I was just wondering if there was a way to force a rerun of the installer now that 9.10 is already in place
[22:46] <Samuli^> and name it xorg.conf obv.
[22:47] <nemo> sebsebseb: since I'm sure update-manager -d would not prompt
[22:47] <nemo> sebsebseb: I guess could use a CD if it comes to that.
[22:47] <piperfan> thanks! bye
[22:47] <Samuli^> good luck :)
[22:47] <porkpie> anyone here know why the Starting Samba daemons  is really slow to start
[22:48] <dragon> porkpie: how are you starting it?
[22:48] <sara1> hi all i need video converter plz
[22:48] <xkpe> i installed imagemagick (apt-get install imagemagick) but the command convert its not available, has anyone used this on ubuntu? what can i be doing wrong?
[22:49] <ctmjr> !info mencoder | sara1
[22:49] <sebsebseb> nemo: I think there may be some magic (well not magic, since it doesn't exist? Or does it? ) that you can do on the Live CD, to get it working how you want it
[22:50] <nemo> sebsebseb: guess I'll just wait until I have her laptop in my hands again.
[22:50] <sara1> ctmjr ubottu thnx
[22:50] <Panic661> Hi, I've got a few issues. First, when in terminal and it tells me its going to take a certain amount of space, and if I want to continue (y/n) And I type in "y" it aborts.
[22:50] <nowimproved> seb, actually this is my error<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:51] <porkpie> dragon:'/etc/init.d/samba start"
[22:51] <sebsebseb> nemo: ok good luck,   plus if you got it your hands you can do a clean install if you really want
[22:51] <porkpie> dragon: I am showing 2 pids though ... not sure if this is correct
[22:52] <Panic661> My second issue involves my wireless card (BCM 4311) and I've gone through trying to install the ndiswrapper..
[22:52] <ShawnRisk> Panic661: crazy
[22:52] <chris12349> #php
[22:52] <porkpie> dragon:it starts but takes 15mins to start
[22:53] <ctmjr> sara1: your welcome it is a command line app if you want a gui then avidemux is nice
[22:53] <Panic661> ShawnRisk: I was thinking the same thing. (Minus the wireless card, apparently thats no uncommon.) But, I'm extremely new to linux in general.
[22:53] <yeason> ctmjr: thanks for the suggestion, it appears to be working normally
[22:53] <sebsebseb> nemo: in your hands, above (didn't need to correct this, but felt like it)
[22:54] <Justcop> am using ubuntu NBR on an ases eeepc, had been working great but suddenly is only booting to CLI, if i type startx it loads up fine but the mouse doesn't work, help me?
[22:55] <ShawnRisk> Panic661: I am going through the wireless problem right now
[22:55] <ctmjr> yeason: your welcome if you do not need the effects you can just leave it like it is
[22:56] <Panic661> ShawnRisk: are you on a BCM card?
[22:57] <nikolaj> hey
[22:57] <nikolaj> does anyone know where the temporary internet files are in ubuntu?
[22:57] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: hi
[22:57] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: there aren't any :)  well there are kind of
[22:58] <nikolaj> i just watched a divx film and wanted to locate the file for that film
[22:58] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: oh there's /tmp
[22:58] <LjL> nikolaj: it may or may not be in some directory inside your home depending on the browser or program you used.
[22:58] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: also your Firefox profile with your user settings is in home in the hidden .mozilla folder
[22:58] <ShawnRisk> Panic661: yes
[22:58] <nikolaj> not in the .mozilla folder
[22:58] <nikolaj> although there are some temp files there
[22:58] <ShawnRisk> on my other laptop
[22:59] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: yes it won't be in there
[22:59] <nikolaj> am in /tmp at the moment
[22:59] <nikolaj> looking more like it, can't believe i didn't look earlier
[23:00] <nikolaj> not in there though
[23:00] <ctmjr> nikolaj: they do not store the file in a tmp folder anymore or on your computer for that matter to easy to just copy the file and have a copy of the movie you can thank hulu and apple for that
[23:00] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: look at Firefox history and go on it again?
[23:00] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: it was on a web page?
[23:00] <nikolaj> i can find the temporary vid files for some other videos in that folder
[23:01] <nikolaj> so it obviously is still downloaded as a temporary form
[23:01] <nikolaj> just not to there
[23:01] <nikolaj> do you want the link?
[23:01] <sebsebseb> ctmjr: thank them for that why what?
[23:01] <blackbriar> can someone suggest which java package i should install?
[23:01] <ymee> hi guys. can some tell me how to command line access a windows share? I am connected to the windows share from the "places" menu. How do I access the contents via the command line?
[23:01] <sebsebseb> !info sun-java6-jre
[23:01] <nikolaj> sebsebseb: do you want the link?
[23:01] <sebsebseb> blackbriar: that one ^
[23:01] <blackbriar> thanks
[23:02] <sebsebseb> blackbriar: np
[23:02] <halouf> hello
[23:02] <SeanTater> I'm using the USB Startup Disk Creator (cool app BTW), but it's copying at only 60KB/s. This can't be right, can it?
[23:02] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: that would depend on what kind of video it is, etc etc
[23:02] <ymee> anyone?
[23:03] <nikolaj> ok it's nothing bad if that's what you mean
[23:03] <halouf> bluetooth isn't working on my laptop (hp 6830s) any way to fix this?
[23:03] <ymee> where does ubuntu mount (if it does) the directories when I connect to a windows share via the Places menu?
[23:03] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: and if it's something pirated your not meant to link to it in here etc
[23:04] <nikolaj> alright well it still remains that i need to try and locate this file
[23:04] <SeanTater> ymee: I guess you must have already checked, but I would try in /media. If not, run "mount" in a terminal and it should give you a list, one of which should be your share
[23:04] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: Flash videos can be saved and maybe your type as well,  I think that's what ctmjr  was trying to point out
[23:05] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: if it's online, why do you need it from your computer?
[23:05] <Justcop> am using ubuntu NBR on an ases eeepc, had been working great but suddenly is only booting to CLI, if i type startx it loads up fine but the mouse doesn't work, help me?
[23:05] <seidos> i think flash videos are stored in /temp
[23:05] <seidos> er /tmp
[23:05] <nikolaj> because i need to show some of this in a lecture
[23:05] <Snausages> Justcop: I've had my trackpad wig out before...  I plugged in a regular mouse, and it worked, and when I unplugged it the trackpad worked again.
[23:06] <nikolaj> it's an .avi
[23:06] <ctmjr> sebsebseb: use to be you watch a tv show on the internet it stored a copy in a tmp file to speed up buffering then you just copied the file to another dir and renamed it you then had a copy of the show but hulu and apple do not store acopy on your computer and most every other site followed
[23:06] <lalo> Hi, Is there any way to change ubuntu 9.10 karmic boot splash animation?
[23:06] <sebsebseb> ctmjr: oh right well copyright etc
[23:06] <madcheeze> hey all quick question, in 9.10 64 bit, how do i know what theme i have installed? is it gdm1 or gdm2? i dont think i am using compiz. its a straight up fresh install of 9.10
[23:07] <sebsebseb> lalo: don't think so
[23:07] <sebsebseb> lalo: it can be removed though
[23:07] <ctmjr> sebsebseb: exactly
[23:08] <mikebeecham> guys...any idea why I cant get build-dep command to work?
[23:08] <mikebeecham> are there 'normal' reasons for this?
[23:08] <nikolaj> so would anyone know the location that the file is played from?
[23:08] <nikolaj> within the file system
[23:08] <halouf> bluetooth isn't working on my laptop (hp 6830s) any way to fix this?
[23:08] <Confuzius> madcheeze, gdm2
[23:08] <madcheeze> Confuzius, thanks!
[23:08] <madcheeze> has anyone had any luck with cairo dock in 9.10?
[23:08] <Fizix> halouf, have you tried searching for proprietary drivers?
[23:09] <halouf> no, I've read that it should work out of the box but it's not the case
[23:10] <nikolaj> anyone :D
[23:10] <LjL> !usplash | lalo
[23:10] <Fizix> halouf, go to: System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers | It will scan your box for hardware that would require proprietary, non-open source drivers.
[23:10] <genii> LjL: grub2 doesn't play nice with usplash, etc
[23:10] <Fizix> then you can download, install and activate those drivers right from there
[23:10] <sebsebseb> LjL: ah yes usplash
[23:10] <LjL> mikebeecham: it doesn't work, like what?
[23:11] <sebsebseb> genii: no?
[23:11] <LjL> genii: uh, Karmic doesn't use usplash?
[23:11] <nikolaj> i am replaying the video that i want to watch offline, and it's not even having to buffer this time so it is somewhere on my hard drive but i have no idea where?
[23:11] <sebsebseb> LjL: Karmic uses Xsplash for it's boot up (I am not genii, but I answered anyway)
[23:11] <sebsebseb> LjL: and uspalsh can be used instead or whatever
[23:12] <halouf> Fizix, the only hardware detected is my ati card
[23:12] <LjL> sebsebseb: i have a kubuntu karmic, the splash screen doesn't looked like it was running inside X11 if that's what xsplash is...
[23:12] <sebsebseb> genii: Grub 2 does not like usplash?
[23:12] <mikebeecham> LjL - I am trying to build the banshee from git, and am trying to use the Build-dep command, but I am being told that it cannot find the source package...I am assuming because build-dep is not working for some reason?
[23:12] <Fizix> halouf, do you have any hotkey on your keyboard to vary off/on the bluetooth antennae?
[23:13] <magmarules> Guys anyone knows how i can launch the compiz-config manager through command line? its not opening i would like to know what the error is
[23:13] <sebsebseb> LjL: Xplash is for example the  white Ubuntu logo in the centre of the screen on boot up
[23:13] <pyrak> my system is using just under 2gb memory with only ffx, evince, pidgin, and xchat open
[23:13] <genii> sebsebseb: I'm trying now to find where I found this originally.... but to my knowledge, they don't work well together
[23:13] <Fizix> magentar, compiz-config-manager doesn't work?
[23:13] <maco> magmarules: ccsm
[23:13] <halouf> Fizix, yeah but it's turned on
[23:13] <LjL> sebsebseb: well, before that i get usplash. i guess that might be a kubuntu thing though.
[23:13] <pyrak> from a little poking with htop and stuff, it sort of looks like every process is using a few times more mem than it ought to be
[23:13] <synapsys> Compiz-config-settings-manager: ccsm
[23:14] <Fizix> halouf, does the bluetooth logo appear at the top right with other processes?
[23:14] <pyrak> does this sound familiar at all?
[23:14] <LjL> mikebeecham: do you have src repositories enabled in sources.list?
[23:14] <madcheeze> pyrak, fresh install?
[23:14] <Flare183> pyrak: Yeah, it does.
[23:14] <pyrak> madcheeze, yeah, i guess that's my solution... i'm just avoiding it
[23:14] <sebsebseb> LjL: could be, and  when I put  KDM into 9.10, I didn't get the second thing,  the like sand theme with Ubuntu  text, after the thing in the centre
[23:14] <pyrak> oh, if you were asking if this _is_ a fresh install, it's not.  recently upgraded to karmic
[23:15] <pyrak> but haven't reformatted ~1 year
[23:15] <madcheeze> pyrak, no, im asking, is it a fresh install? if so, double check the md5 and make sure your install media is good. after that, kill processes until you isolate the problem one...
[23:15] <halouf> Fizix, the appelet is there but "send files to device" and "browse files on device" are both grayed out
[23:15] <Subby> hi, how to delete recursively all .svn-folders ?
[23:15] <magmarules> unn maco ty =( seems to be locale problems. I accidentally installed the system with portuguese locale and now even though i changed it to English it still tries to use PT.
[23:15] <madcheeze> pyrak, kill each service or app until you get your memory back
[23:15] <Subby> from a given folder
[23:16] <pyrak> madcheeze, oh dear.  okay.  do i risk permanent damage if i kill something essential?
[23:16] <Flare183> pyrak: Or do what I've been doing, add more swap if you don't have any.
[23:16] <Fizix> halouf, it could be the device you're interfacing with blocking it and not Ubuntu. With my previous phone, I could browse the entire drive, with my new phone, I have to setup a specific folder to accept bluetooth sent items before it even allows it.
[23:16] <maco> magmarules: when you login at gdm, it should let you choose the language to login with if you click the options thing
[23:16] <sebsebseb> magmarules: Sounds a bit like my Mandriva 2010, I told it to use English for the install,  and tried to change after woulds, but yet it wants Amerian English.  I want it to use British English :)
[23:16] <madcheeze> pyrak, i dont think so, start with what you know...
[23:16] <pyrak> Flare183, i have a gig of swap, and it's not full
[23:16] <Fizix> halouf, have you tried whatever bluetooth device you're trying to interface with on anoter operating system before, as a frame of reference?
[23:16] <Flare183> pyrak: 5GB of swap here'
[23:17] <pyrak> Flare183, i'm actually not hitting the ceiling of my ram yet, but i have 4gb
[23:17] <Flare183> pyrak: That's only because I use my desktop for both a server and a regular computer..
[23:17] <Fizix> I has 9TB of swap, and 256KB of actual RAM. amidoinitryte?
[23:17] <halouf> Fizix, had no problem previously on vista/xp
[23:17] <pyrak> and it's a laptop and running really hot
[23:17] <pyrak> and really loud
[23:17] <pyrak> and i think that having less activity going on with the ram would help
[23:17] <Fizix> halouf, have you ran an update on Ubuntu?
[23:17] <Subby> how to delete recursively all ".svn" folders ?
[23:18] <Mike_lifeguard> Fizix: are you sure you meant 9TB?
[23:18] <madcheeze> pyrak, thats way more than enough ram to not really use the swap at all.
[23:18] <tnnc> can someone please help i have mysql 5.0.22 and phpmyadmin 2.8.1 here and up until maybe three days ago it worked fine and now when i run phpmyadmin it saids it fails to connect to mysql and to check config.inc.php to be sure the username and password are the same and they are but still no connect can someone help me to get this working again thanks
[23:18] <pyrak> Subby, google for it.  i found a bash script for that once
[23:18] <Fizix> rm --help
[23:18] <Fizix> Mike_lifeguard, nah, I was just doing it for the lulz.
[23:18] <Flare183> Fizix: Um like that's not possible, and/or that's just messed up.
[23:18] <halouf> Fizix, I'm on 9.04
[23:19] <pyrak> madcheeze, yeah, i figured.
[23:19] <pyrak> Fizix, oh those ever elusive lulz
[23:19] <Subby> pyrak: got, wasn't that hard ;)
[23:19] <Subby> got it*
[23:19] <madcheeze> pyrak, do you have a hardware monitor that works on each part?
[23:19] <madcheeze> pyrak, or a resource monitor?
[23:19] <Fizix> halouf, what's the device you're trying to sync to?
[23:20] <Flare183> tnnc: got mysqld running?
[23:20] <halouf> Fizix, a nokia 6210 navigator
[23:20] <madcheeze> holy #$!! the update from ubuntu for 9.10 is already huge...
[23:21] <oddsam> does anyone else thing that 9.10 is a little buggier than previous releases?
[23:21] <g__> hi, how do i add a user to another group?
[23:21] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: by the way that still counts as swearing in here, as far as I know anyway
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> madcheeze: yep you are a whole month behind
[23:21] <madcheeze> lol
[23:21] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: @ me ?
[23:21] <tnnc> Flare183 how can i check to be sure mysql i can get to from cmd prompt
[23:21] <evilGUI> oddsam: I do.
[23:21] <Fizix> madcheeze, Ubuntu 9.10 has over 9000 updates, hence the size.
[23:21] <dewly> linux
[23:21] <oddsam> @anyone
[23:21] <evilGUI> oddsam: But then again new releases have bugs.
[23:21] <dewly> lo maximo
[23:22] <madcheeze> sebsebseb, sorry, im not meaning to tick anyone off
[23:22] <KB1JWQ> thermal_: "mysql" should work.
[23:22] <Flare183> tnnc: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[23:22] <dewly> ola
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> g__: useradd -G group user
[23:22] <KB1JWQ> Er, that was to tnnc
[23:22] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: didn't think you were, I was just saying :)
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> g__: needs sudo
[23:22] <dewly> dewly"ubuntuservers
[23:22] <madcheeze> sebsebseb, thanks!
[23:22] <oddsam> evilGUI: true but i'm still comparing straight out of the box
[23:22] <Fizix> halouf, try not setting the bluetooth "handshake" to require a PIN
[23:22] <magmarules> got it maco ty =)
[23:22] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: as for updates well
[23:22] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: the more an install is left and not getting the updates, or
[23:22] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: your not even on that install yet, well yes the more updates
[23:22] <g__> thanks ActionParsnip, i think it may have worked!
[23:23] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: and it really does start to add up
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> g__: easy stuff
[23:23] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: and apparantly it's only security updates as well
[23:23] <halouf> Fizix, there is no pin set on my phone
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> g__: you can verify with: groups user
[23:23] <madcheeze> pyrak, just an fyi, my netbook is really hot in 9.10 also. have you updated everything?
[23:23] <tnnc> Flare183 yes it saids already started
[23:23] <Flare183> tnnc: then it should work.
[23:23] <g__> ActionParsnip: nope - i failed :(
[23:24] <KenBW2> Dell has made Chrome OS installable on their laptops. But why would it be 7.5GB when ubuntu is only 700MB?
[23:24] <oddsam> bloated beta code?
[23:24] <sebsebseb> !ot | KenBW2
[23:24] <Fizix> halouf, set your phone on discovery mode, then when you have the bluetooth program search for devices, un-check the box the makes it ask for a PIN or for you to make one up; there should be an option for a PIN-less handshake
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> g__: you can also run: gksudo users-admin
[23:24] <g__> ActionParsnip: that's to add a new user though? i need to add an existing user to a group
[23:24] <tnnc> flare183 well when i run phpmyadmin it fails to connect saids using password no when it really should
[23:24] <juan__> hola
[23:25] <sebsebseb> !es |  juan__
[23:25] <KittyBoots> How do I change the repository sources through command?  There is a source that I want to remove, but I do not know how.  I can not do it through synaptic because the source causes it to shut down.
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> g__: to add a new user to an existing group: sudo useradd -g group new_user_name
[23:26] <madcheeze> KittyBoots, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:26] <ratatim> I've downloaded Syslinux to put onto a usb drive to upgrade linux. should i just copy and paste it into the USB drive?
[23:26] <Hillshum> or sudo adduser username groups
[23:27] <Fizix> KittyBoots, have you tried removing it from the 'Software Sources' UI? System -> Admin -> Software Sources. Or I could just have been smarter and pointed you to where madcheeze did.
[23:27] <madcheeze> ratatim, use unetbootin
[23:27] <jacquesdupontd> hi everybody
[23:27] <ratatim> unetbootin! that's what I couldn't remember. I can get that on 8.04 correct?
[23:27] <madcheeze> ratatim, yep
[23:27] <jacquesdupontd> i'm searching for somebody that knows a bit xorg.conf for nvidia
[23:27] <ratatim> madcheeze: thanks!!
[23:27] <madcheeze> ratatim, no prob
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> g__: the gksudo command I gave will allow you to make another user and add it to whatever groups you wish
[23:28] <Hillshum> anyone know of a way to play wma voice on linux?
[23:28] <Hodapp> How can I still have media automounted when I'm not running GNOME?
[23:28] <jacquesdupontd> i'm not bad at xorg.conf but i have a brand new hd TV and i don't know how to set my xorg so that it saves my settings
[23:28] <jacquesdupontd> Hillshum, vlc*
[23:28] <Fizix> jacquesdupontd, I'm afraid I don't, but what I DID learn over the last few months if that if you're running 9.04 or newer with X-ORG 1.6 and you have an older card, forget about it, it most likely won't be supported.
[23:28] <oddsam> @hodapp: fstab
[23:28] <Hodapp> oddsam: How will fstab assit with automounting?
[23:28] <Fizix> jacquesdupontd, I have the same problem with me ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300
[23:28] <Hodapp> s/assit/assist/
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: xorg.conf once set wioll save settings
[23:29] <Hillshum> jacquesdupontd: As in vlc-nox?
[23:29] <halouf> Fizix, I found the problem, it's the integrated blutooth device of my laptop, plugged a usb/bluetooth adaptor and it's working fine
[23:29] <jacquesdupontd> Fizix, what i wanna do is actually done it's just for saving it to my xorg.conf the nvidia-settings is giving me parse error
[23:29] <KittyBoots> madcheeze, Fizix: I got it, took out the source and all is well, thanks!
[23:29] <halouf> Fizix, thank you for your time ;)
[23:29] <Fizix> halouf, no problem, did that work for you?
[23:29] <Hodapp> oddsam: I speak of arbitrary USB devices that aren't known ahead of time.
[23:30] <Fizix> KittyBoots, NP!
[23:30] <ctmjr> jacquesdupontd: use sudo nvidia-settings
[23:30] <halouf> Fizix, yes it's working fine now
[23:30] <jacquesdupontd> Fizix, and no it's not an old card i have an asus laptop m60j intel core i7 with 4 gb of ddr3 and a geforce gt240m with 1 gb of ddr3 on it and 1 terrabyte + this new lg full hd tv i just bought
[23:31] <sisif> Hello guys. Can any one help me? All of a sudden, my ubuntu won`t boot. I can load the grub, but any thing past that gets stucked. I can`t even get a terminal to see what happens. Any idia on what shall I do next. I kinda trying to avoid reinstall the whole box. Thanks.
[23:31] <Fizix> halouf, ok good! That was my first fix/help on here!
[23:31] <sebsebseb> sisif: Which version of Ubuntu?
[23:32] <jacquesdupontd> ctmjr, i'll do it more simple, im not a newbie and it makes 5 years i'm on linux so i know what is sudo but if you knew a bit nvidia cards you would understand that  you can't save settings by doing a sudo launch
[23:32] <sisif> sebsebseb : 9.10
[23:32] <sebsebseb> sisif: so an upgrade from 9.04?
[23:32] <Fizix> sisif, if you partitioned the drive correctly with /home being in it's own partition, there's not much to fear in a re-install.
[23:32] <burkmat_> Intriguing issue: I run Banshee on both my Eee, and my new PC. Banshee on Eee (through apt) came with default playlists such as "Queue", "Recent Favorites", "Favorites", "Recently added" etc... but the new install on the PC brought nothing of the kind. How would I get it back? Queuing songs is a useful feature...
[23:32] <sisif> sebsebseb : No. I was a clean install. It worked just fine one hour ago.
[23:32] <ctmjr> jacquesdupontd: have fun and yes  you can but who am i to argue with 5 years
[23:32] <jacquesdupontd> so any idée here why i have this parse error first ?
[23:33] <sebsebseb> sisif: what Fizix put
[23:33] <jacquesdupontd> shouldn't be like that when i try a save on my xorg.conf
[23:33] <sisif> Fizix : I know. I even have a restor point for all my packages installed so I can do a restore. But still ...
[23:33] <sebsebseb> sisif: clean install and then Grub 2 stops working hmm?
[23:33] <dtownhero> ctmjr, you're right. :p
[23:34] <SineDeviance> hey all
[23:34] <SineDeviance> question for you... ext3 or ext4?
[23:34] <jacquesdupontd> ctmjr, but i thank you for trying to help me but be sure that first when i ask a question i've searched on google a long time before and it's because my problem is not that easy to solve
[23:34] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: hi
[23:34] <dtownhero> ctmjr, but you already knew that... was just giving you the E-pat on the back.
[23:34] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: that depends
[23:34] <Fizix> sisif, are you running on an older machine?
[23:34] <Hillshum> jacquesdupontd, Vlc isn't able to handle it. Might it be that I need w32codecs?
[23:34] <sisif> sebsebseb : yes. I now, it`s weird.
[23:34] <SineDeviance> sebsebseb, on what?
[23:34] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: Ext3 or Ext4 for what?
[23:34] <jacquesdupontd> i've got an idea i'm gonna make separated screen
[23:34] <jay> exit
[23:34] <sisif> Fizix : not really. It`s a decent notebook.
[23:34] <mdg> ShawnRisk: hello
[23:34] <SineDeviance> sebsebseb, speed
[23:35] <jacquesdupontd> Hillshum, try i think it should work yes with greffons
[23:35] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: I didn't mean that
[23:35] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: ,but Ext4 is the faster one in 9.04 anyway with / done in it, but  it's also a bit dodgy there, because of the kernel they have and such
[23:35] <nik0z> Give instant Google Wave invites for Dropbox Refferal SignUp: http://j.mp/4A4ZD6 U don't need to send me mail, I will see it after sign up!
[23:35] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: when I tested 9.10 with Ext3 first and then Ext4,  it didn't really matter
[23:35] <mdg> ShawnRisk: still working on your wireless setup?
[23:35] <sisif> sebsebseb , Fizix : hint. Last time I used it I try to put it in hybernate mode. I think something got stucked.
[23:35] <SineDeviance> sebsebseb, so i should use ext3 for / and /home?
[23:35] <jacquesdupontd> Hillshum, on any player actually i'm on kubuntu that by the way rox compared to what it was befire
[23:35] <Fizix> SineDeviance, I run ext4 without a problem, but I've heard people having on occasion issues. I say ext4 but if it's an older machine and you're worried about how many years or months you have left on the harddrive, I'd go with a non-journaling ext2 as it hits the drive less prolonging the drive's life.
[23:35] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: Ext4 is the default for 9.10
[23:36] <Hillshum> greffons?
[23:36] <ctmjr> jacquesdupontd: you can stop highlighting me and i really no longer care if you get it fixed
[23:36] <rlzy1r> Howdy, quick question. I'm running Karmic and sometimes, maybe 3 or 4 times a week, I get a blank black screen during boot. If I press anykeys I get to a terminal with builtin commands. Anyone come across this
[23:36] <SineDeviance> sebsebseb, yeah i know, but crunchbang is based on 9.04
[23:36] <Hillshum> And how do I make sure vlc finds w32codecs?
[23:36] <jacquesdupontd> ctmjr, ok sorry man
[23:36] <maco> i tend to go with ext3 /home and ext4 / when i setup other people's systems