[12:53] <OerHeks> mikubuntu, the only fix is to use chrome ( not chromium)  with buildin flash and moonlight.
[12:53] <BluesKaj> dreamaddict,, then it seems you need to uodate and upgrade
[12:53] <dreamaddict> cannot open mixer:  No such file or directory
[12:53] <dreamaddict> ok
[12:54] <dreamaddict> how do I do that
[12:54] <BluesKaj> and install ubuintu-restricted-extras
[12:54] <dreamaddict> ok
[12:54] <dreamaddict> I think I saw a linux package of that approximate name as one of the solutions
[12:54] <BluesKaj> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:54] <OerHeks> dreamaddict, it is Realtek's ALC1150 ??  .. tons of forumposts with sound issues..
[12:55] <dreamaddict> is that what it is?
[12:55] <dreamaddict> I was having a hard time finding what exactly it is
[12:55] <dreamaddict> fine in Windows, like I was saying, fine with any of my Windows games
[12:55] <OerHeks> dreamaddict, easy to find,  what gives lspci for your soundchip? the 8 digit hex number
[12:55] <BluesKaj> dreamaddict, in the console , sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[12:55] <dreamaddict> ok I already started the restricted packages
[12:55] <dreamaddict> that will take a minute or two
[12:56] <dreamaddict> then I'll run those two (update/upgrade)
[12:56] <BluesKaj> ok , once that's finished and you agree to the terms
[12:57] <dreamaddict> my God Linux is byzantine
[12:57] <dreamaddict> I can't imagine how this ever becomes understandable
[12:57] <BluesKaj> dreamaddict, it will if you stick to it
[12:57] <dreamaddict> I can stick to it
[12:58] <dreamaddict> just saying, daaamn
[12:58] <BluesKaj> you'll wonder why you ever ran windows
[12:58] <dreamaddict> so I can play the same games my friends are playing :P
[12:58] <BluesKaj> depends
[12:58] <dreamaddict> certainly not for coding...I got to the point where I was like, really, I should buckle down and learn Linux if I want to code seriously...all of the good utilities are there
[12:59] <dreamaddict> ok update/upgrade is going right now
[13:00] <dreamaddict> no, it will take some serious time before I can comprehend how it's organized on the inside
[13:00] <dreamaddict> even a little
[13:00] <BluesKaj> periodically update and upgrade, say once a week or so
[13:01] <BluesKaj> even more often if you want, there's no hard rule
[13:01] <dreamaddict> what actually sold me on doing a Linux boot, was seeing this OpenGL Lisp IDE called CEPL
[13:03] <dreamaddict> finished
[13:03] <dreamaddict> upgraded, updated, restricted packages installed
[13:04] <dreamaddict> reboot?
[13:04] <BluesKaj> ok try alsamixer in the console agian
[13:04] <dreamaddict> same
[13:04] <dreamaddict> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[13:05] <BluesKaj> ok reboot
[13:05] <dreamaddict> rebooting
[13:06] <dreamaddict> back
[13:06] <dreamaddict> alsamixer hasn't changed
[13:08] <castissimo> ?list
[13:08] <castissimo> ciao a tutti
[13:08] <cfhowlett> !list > castissimo
[13:09] <castissimo> !list
[13:09] <OerHeks> castissimo, no need to try again, dude
[13:10] <OerHeks> all torrents are here >> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[13:13] <zteam> Hi!
[13:14] <mikubuntu> OerHeks: sry missed your reply -- yes i'm using chrome (again), but doesn't seem to want to play with the website. wonder what's up with that.
[13:14] <zteam> I'm still unable to merge multiple linux isos onto my usb pendrive and boot them off
[13:14] <BluesKaj> dreamaddict, I'm still here, doing some research
[13:15] <dreamaddict> that's cool
[13:15] <dreamaddict> your help is seriously, much appreciated
[13:15] <dreamaddict> I've been trying but I flat do not know enough about this to really comprehend the more detailed troubleshooting
[13:17] <zteam> Which utility is one supposed to use to able to boot multiple linux distros from one usb key?, so far I have tried both with Multisystem and YUMI, neither one is able to create a bootable usb pendrive for me :-/
[13:19] <zteam> with YUMI all I get is complaining about it can't find /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod, and if Try with Multisystem, it complains about that it cannot find the Ubuntu iso upon booting
[13:20] <BluesKaj> dreamaddict,  in the console, sudo apt install --reinstall libasound2
[13:21] <dreamaddict> done
[13:22] <dreamaddict> alsamixer still not working
[13:22] <dreamaddict> same message
[13:23] <BluesKaj> dreamaddict,  in the console, sudo apt install --reinstall alsa-base alsa-utils
[13:24] <mygan> so i have these additional drivers: Processor microcode firmware for Intel CPUs, is it necessary to enable these?
[13:24] <dreamaddict> (ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot)
[13:24] <dreamaddict> alsamixer still negative
[13:24] <ioria> dreamaddict, but the file exists ? ls -l /usr/bin/alsamixer
[13:25] <dreamaddict> ioria: yep...I'm pretty sure it would be a different error message if alsamixer were not there altogether
[13:25] <ioria> dreamaddict,  can you paste etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf  ?
[13:26] <dreamaddict> ioria:  it doesn't exist
[13:27] <ioria> dreamaddict,     ls  -l /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[13:27] <OerHeks> i find no solution for Realtek ALC1150
[13:27] <dreamaddict> I just did, it doesn't exist
[13:27] <ioria> dreamaddict,     nmmm, no good
[13:27] <smart> hi there, is there a way to add/edit keyboard shortcuts in lubuntu?
[13:27] <BuenGenio> is there any way to change the delete word combination for terminal from Alt+Backspace to Ctrl+Backspace?
[13:27] <dreamaddict> well I've been reinstalling the hell out of the packages, and it's still not there...very odd indeed
[13:28] <ioria> !info alsa-base
[13:28] <ioria> dreamaddict,     alsa-base ?
[13:28] <BluesKaj> try opening it with  alt+F2  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[13:30] <dreamaddict> BluesKaj:  I typed that in and hit enter, and it does nothing...the window just sits there and does nothing
[13:30] <ioria> dreamaddict,     alsa-base package is installed ?
[13:30] <dreamaddict> I just installed it
[13:30] <ioria> dreamaddict,     it wasn't ?
[13:31] <dreamaddict> it was, I reinstalled it
[13:31] <BluesKaj> ioria, alsamixer doesn't show up in the termianl either
[13:31] <dreamaddict> it is freshly reinstalled and doesn't seem to work...?
[13:31] <dreamaddict> it doesn't say "No command 'alsamixer' found"
[13:31] <dreamaddict> it says "cannot open mixer:  No such file or directory"
[13:32] <cfhowlett> query: can I pipe text output directly to thunderbird email?
[13:32] <ioria> dreamaddict,    they are 2 diferrent errors
[13:32] <dreamaddict> if I mistype it, it "autocorrects" me saying, did you mean:  Command 'alsamixer' from package 'alsa-utils'
[13:32] <dreamaddict> I know
[13:32] <dreamaddict> therefore alsamixer is there
[13:33] <ioria> dreamaddict,    ls -l /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf   again please
[13:33] <dreamaddict> ok weird
[13:33] <dreamaddict> now it is there, I am looking at it
[13:33] <ioria> dreamaddict,  can you paste etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf  ?
[13:33] <dreamaddict> I must have mistyped it earlier
[13:34] <dreamaddict> ok pastebinning it now
[13:35] <BiilD73> dumb question   when Im adding a line like /media/bill/series music pics/Series/  in an exports file, should it be like that or this  /media/bill/series\ music\ pics/Series/  ?
[13:36] <dreamaddict> http://pastebin.com/dbxLE5Mt
[13:36] <BiilD73> where the "series music pics" is the mounted drives name
[13:38] <BluesKaj> dreamaddict, open the file agian with root permissions and add thei sline to the bottom, options snd-hda-intel index=0
[13:38] <dreamaddict> ok
[13:39] <BluesKaj> then save it and relogin in
[13:39] <ioria> dreamaddict,  and it that not working   , at the end you have options snd-usb-audio index=-2     , set it to   0    and add after it     options snd-hda-intel index=-2
[13:39] <ioria> *if
[13:40] <dreamaddict> alsamixer still not working
[13:40] <dreamaddict> shall I make the index for snd-usb-audio 0 as well?
[13:40] <BluesKaj> ioria, wonder if he needs to be added to the audiogroup
[13:40] <BluesKaj> dreamaddict, sudo addgroup <username> audio
[13:41] <dreamaddict> done
[13:41] <dreamaddict> alsamixer still not working
[13:41] <ioria> dreamaddict, have you tried    " at the end you have options snd-usb-audio index=-2     , set it to   0    and add after it     options snd-hda-intel index=-2  "  ?
[13:41] <dreamaddict> oh...by username, is that the entire thing (myname@mymachine), or just myname?
[13:42] <BluesKaj> your login in name , the user name in the consol
[13:42] <ioria> dreamaddict, no, just the username
[13:42] <dreamaddict> ok then I did it right
[13:43] <dreamaddict> I might as well try what you just said, ioria
[13:43] <ioria> dreamaddict, like that   options snd-usb-audio index=0   options snd-hda-intel index=-2
[13:44] <BluesKaj> dreamon, your soundcard isn't an outboard usb is it?
[13:44] <dreamaddict> no, it's integrated
[13:44] <BluesKaj> oops dreamaddict
[13:45] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:45] <dreamaddict> ok after changing the config is that a logout/login, or reboot
[13:45] <ioria> dreamaddict, reboot
[13:45] <dreamaddict> ok one sec
[13:45] <BluesKaj> aa reboot , to make sure
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> BiilD73: you can browse folders from terminal with cd
[13:46] <therue> which boot start up method is better? grub, grub 2, and those other ones ? *scratches head*
[13:46] <dreamaddict> back
[13:46] <cfhowlett> therue, grub2 is the default.  deviate ONLY if you KNOW what you are doing and are prepared to fix any breakages.
[13:46] <dreamaddict> HEYO
[13:47] <dreamaddict> we're in!
[13:47] <dreamaddict> that last config file thingy did the trick!
[13:47] <ioria> dreamaddict, working ?
[13:47] <dreamaddict> I'm in alsamixer, at least
[13:47] <ioria> dreamaddict, ok
[13:48] <dreamaddict> the integrated sound still isn't in the list of sound cards
[13:48] <dreamaddict> BUT...we have alsamixer now
[13:48] <dreamaddict> which is much improved
[13:48] <therue> on my laptop i had installed linux on it before and i had grub on it, not grub 2, if i want to reinstall linux on that laptop again, will the grub still exist after i install the new linux on it?
[13:48] <ioria> dreamaddict,   systemsettings -> sound   ?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> therue, unless you specify otherwise, the last OS you install will write the bootloader
[13:48] <dreamaddict> oh my system settings kind of got gutted when I purged pulseaudio
[13:48] <therue> ah ok
[13:48] <therue> thanks
[13:48] <BiilD73> how would I format this share tree in exports file  /media/bill/series\ music\ pics/Series/ or  /media/bill/series music pics/Series/ do not work
[13:48] <dreamaddict> trying to fix this...I"ll have to handle that later
[13:49] <ioria> dreamaddict,   you purged pulseaudio ?
[13:49] <dreamaddict> yeah BluesKaj said it was cool :)
[13:49] <dreamaddict> for some reason it took out a few of the unity packages too, apparently
[13:49] <dreamaddict> eh
[13:49] <lotuspsychje_> BiilD73: tell us the full story mate, whats your end goal?
[13:50] <ioria> dreamaddict,   what ubuntu are you on ?
[13:50] <dreamaddict> 14.10
[13:50] <ioria> auuahaauahauahaa
[13:50] <cfhowlett> dreamaddict, unsupported, end of life, upgrade to a supported version.
[13:50] <ioria> dreamaddict,  14.10 is dead
[13:50] <HackerII> doh
[13:50] <dreamaddict> well I just updated/upgraded from the console...?
[13:51] <dreamaddict> eh I can reinstall this sucker if that's the case
[13:51] <dreamaddict> one sec
[13:51] <ioria> dreamaddict,  cat /etc/issue
[13:52] <krabador> dreamaddict, really faster, building a pendrive or burn a dvd with a new and supported version, start the installation and use the old root, without format
[13:52] <dreamaddict> ok
[13:52] <dreamaddict> I can do that tomorrow
[13:52] <ren0v0> hi, can someone tell me how to get rid of ssh-agent?
[13:52] <ioria> dreamaddict,  cat /etc/issue  please
[13:52] <dreamaddict> let's say, I don't want to make the same dumb mistake twice that I apparently made
[13:52] <dreamaddict> 14.04.3
[13:52] <ren0v0> its borked my keys
[13:53] <ren0v0> i want it gone!
[13:53] <dreamaddict> what version should I make absolutely sure to get?
[13:53] <ioria> dreamaddict,  no, it's ok
[13:53] <ioria> dreamaddict,  you are 14.04
[13:53] <krabador> no 14.10 for you.
[13:53] <dreamaddict> 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[13:53] <ioria> dreamaddict,  uname -r
[13:53] <dreamaddict> 3.19.0-47-generic
[13:54] <ioria> dreamaddict,  that's  ok  ....   vivid stack
[13:54] <dreamaddict> no really though, what is the deal with the version?
[13:54] <ioria> dreamaddict,  no need to reinstall
[13:55] <ioria> dreamaddict,  can you paste   dpkg -l | grep pulseaudio
[13:55] <ioria> dreamaddict,  sorry,  can you paste   dpkg -l | grep pulseaudio*
[13:56] <noelia> Hello everyone
[13:56] <noelia> Does anybody know about docky?
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> noelia: ask your issue
[13:57] <cfhowlett> noelia, "does anyone ..." type questions waste bandwidth/time.  YOUR issues and YOUR problems may get answers
[13:57] <BluesKaj_> bummer , lost freenode for a few mins
[13:57] <dreamaddict> http://pastebin.com/1b0yQxef
[13:58] <BluesKaj_> dreamaddict,  reinstalled pulse ?
[13:58] <noelia> I've got Docky installed and running, but there's an annoying horizontal grey line across the screen I can't get rid of, whenever I run Docky.
[13:59] <dreamaddict> yeah
[13:59] <dreamaddict> I don't know what you missed but I got alsamixer to work
[13:59] <dreamaddict> by changing those two lines in the conf file
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> noelia: ubuntu version and graphics card chipset?
[13:59] <noelia> Xubuntu 15.10
[13:59] <BluesKaj_> what did you change them to?
[14:00] <dreamaddict> changed snd-usb-audio to 0 and hda-audio to -2
[14:00] <ren0v0> can someone tell me how to remove ssh-agent? it keeps forgetting my identities and i just want to remove it
[14:00] <dreamaddict> added the hda-audio line
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> noelia: did you remove the xubuntu dock at bottom? or does docky run over it?
[14:00] <noelia> lotuspsychje I removed Xubuntu dock at bottom
[14:01] <dreamaddict> the integrated sound still doesn't show up in alsamixer for select sound card...but at least alsamixer is there
[14:01] <noelia> I don't know which graphics card I have
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> noelia: pastebin sudo lshw -C video please?
[14:01] <noelia> lotuspsychje Sure :)
[14:02] <BluesKaj_> ioria, alsamixer works with those conf settings for dreamaddict,  but that makes no sense to me, I have the exact opposite settings in my alsa-base.conf file
[14:03] <noelia> lotuspsychje http://pastebin.com/dLSv7ifN
[14:04] <BluesKaj_> dreamaddict, pastebin your alsamixer
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> noelia: ok looks good...does your system perform well otherwise? youtubes or vlc playing fine?
[14:04] <dreamaddict> what, what's on the screen right now?
[14:04] <dreamaddict> it's kind of a texty-graphicy looking sort of thing
[14:04] <noelia> lotuspsychje Yes, everything else's fine
[14:04] <BluesKaj_> dreamaddict, yes
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> noelia: can you test creating another user, and start docky from there please?
[14:05] <noelia> lotuspsychje Yes
[14:05] <noelia> lotuspsychje I'll be right back.
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> noelia: ok
[14:05] <dreamaddict> http://pastebin.com/qPqv5R4H
[14:06] <dreamaddict> man I must not have checked the versions, I can't believe I didn't install 15.10
[14:07] <dreamaddict> surely there is a way to update to 15.10 from this install that I have
[14:08] <BluesKaj_> dreamaddict, take a screenshot of alsamixer and paste it on http://imgur.com/
[14:08] <noelia> lotuspsychje You're right! Another user doesn't give me that problem.
[14:08] <dreamaddict> heh...how do I screenshot it?
[14:08] <BluesKaj_> dreamaddict, which release are you on ?
[14:09] <dreamaddict> 14.04
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> noelia: ok, try to purge docky and remove config files perhaps in /home hidden dirs of docky and try reinstall?
[14:10] <noelia> lotuspsychje Ok, I'm going to try that :)
[14:11] <BluesKaj_> make sure you have alsamixer on the desktop and hit the prntscrn button just to the right of F12 on desktop KBs, dreamaddict
[14:12] <BluesKaj_> dreamaddict, actually 14.04 is a very stable OS , i use it as my fallback
[14:12] <dreamaddict> http://imgur.com/MaNmX29
[14:12] <dreamaddict> oh wait that's right
[14:12] <dreamaddict> that's why I got this one, it was the stable version
[14:12] <ren0v0> ssh-agent is forgetting my identities, can someone help me find what went wrong ?
[14:12] <dreamaddict> I didn't feel like screwing with the unstable new version
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> ren0v0: maybe the #openssh guys know what to do?
[14:13] <BuenGenio> is there any way to change the delete word combination for terminal from Alt+Backspace to Ctrl+Backspace?
[14:14] <Multipath_Testin> Hello Guyz & Girls
[14:14] <Multipath_Testin> do you know how to post a Bug
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> !bug | Multipath_Testin
[14:14] <cfhowlett> !bug > Multipath_Testin
[14:15] <ren0v0> lotuspsychje, i'll ask, but someone like you will probably tell me to come here
[14:15] <ren0v0> the confs are ubuntu specific after all.
[14:15] <Multipath_Testin> Yes, I read this,
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> ren0v0: just trying to give you more help options
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> ren0v0: re-ask here once in a while if you dont get an answer
[14:15] <Multipath_Testin>  but this is not for a specific application but rather for multipathing mechanism
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> Multipath_Testin: explain the whole story to the channel please
[14:18] <Multipath_Testin> Well, I run an IO Test with VDBENCH'
[14:19] <BluesKaj_> dreamaddict, in alsamixer hit F6 and choose whatever is the '0' card, then close and reopen alsamixer
[14:19] <Multipath_Testin> then I discpnnect one FC path , wait for about 10 sec, and reconnect it.
[14:19] <dreamaddict> done
[14:19] <Multipath_Testin> First Port returns without a problem.
[14:20] <Multipath_Testin> Then I disconnect second path, this time there are ioerrors in the syslog
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> Multipath_Testin: where did you get vdbench from?
[14:20] <dreamaddict> it looks the same
[14:20] <jackcom> there is a way that i want save many line over 30,000 line in the terminal?
[14:20] <Multipath_Testin> and then the iotest breaks.
[14:21] <Multipath_Testin> the VDBENCH is a java Tool
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> Multipath_Testin: and you got it from where
[14:21] <BluesKaj_> dreamaddict, theb f6 agian and choose the intel card
[14:21] <dreamaddict> there is no intel card in the list
[14:21] <Multipath_Testin> it's from SUN ( Oracle right now)
[14:21] <dreamaddict> there is - (default), 0 HDA ATI HDMI, 2 HDA ATI HDMI
[14:22] <BluesKaj_> 0 hda
[14:22] <dreamaddict> that's what I just picked
[14:22] <sertyui> hi
[14:22] <dreamaddict> when you said pick the 0 card
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> Multipath_Testin: maybe ask the oracle forums?
[14:22] <sertyui> how to check the number of users present on a server ?
[14:23] <Multipath_Testin> lotuspsychje: the problem is not with the Tool
[14:23] <Multipath_Testin> Because it is working well on other OS's
[14:23] <cfhowlett> sertyui, in a terminal?  users
[14:23] <Multipath_Testin> there is probably something wrong This ubuntu version - 15.1
[14:23] <BluesKaj_> right , that's because the intel is sending to your hdmi and not to the analog out
[14:24] <dreamaddict> ok well I'll try that
[14:24] <sertyui> ok i can see 3 times my username
[14:24] <dreamaddict> so how do I test the sound
[14:24] <dreamaddict> or more importantly, how do I get the sound settings back into my GUI?
[14:25] <dreamaddict> because for some reason purging pulseaudio got rid of a chunk of the desktop
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> Multipath_Testin: still its not an officially supported ubuntu package right, maybe you can test an alterntive IO test? like bonie++?
[14:26] <BluesKaj_> dreamaddict, you need to change that conf file setting again , make the usb index=1 and the intel =0
[14:26] <dreamaddict> done and rebooting
[14:27] <sertyui> i can see my username 3 times but only one session is present
[14:27] <sertyui> how to check other where it is ?
[14:27] <cfhowlett> sertyui, ask #ubuntu-server
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> !info bonnie++ | Multipath_Testin try this
[14:28] <dreamaddict> lol
[14:28] <BiilD73> how would I format this share tree in exports file  /media/bill/series\ music\ pics/Series/ or  /media/bill/series music pics/Series/ do not work
[14:28] <dreamaddict> back to cannot open mixer
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> BiilD73: what are you trying to doe exactly?
[14:31] <BiilD73> I have this nfs share /media/bill/series music pics/ with files that currently i can acces on the local machine no problem
[14:32] <BiilD73> when I try to export that same share  i get an error I'm sure is due to the spaces on the former windows drive name
[14:32] <BluesKaj_> dreamaddict, wow, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever
[14:32] <dreamaddict> it sure doesn't :P
[14:33] <Multipath_Testin> Ok, thanks ubottu !
[14:33] <dreamaddict> it works if usb=0 and hda=-2, but not the other way around
[14:33] <dreamaddict> and this doesn't work either
[14:33] <BluesKaj_> well, change them back
[14:33] <dreamaddict> and when it does work, it still doesnt see the intel device (as an intel device at least)
[14:33] <dreamaddict> ok
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> BiilD73: did you try with series_music_pics as spaces?
[14:34] <dreamaddict> rebooting
[14:34] <BiilD73> no I didn't since when i use tab to locate files under it didn't swap space for "_"
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> BiilD73: i recommend you to use cleaner folder structures in the future
[14:34] <gateshwill> i highly recommend windows 10 for a profoundly better computing experience
[14:34] <BiilD73> well it was a windows drive and you no how that migrating stuff goes
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> !ot | gateshwill
[14:35] <dreamaddict> alsamixer is back up
[14:36] <BiilD73> lotuspsychje this is the error now   exportfs: Failed to stat /media/bill/series_music_pics/Series/: No such file or directory
[14:36] <dreamaddict> also this is weird...now when I restart ubuntu, there is a small bit of graphical noise that shows up on the end screen just before it reboots
[14:36] <BiilD73> guess I should just rename the drive.
[14:36] <dreamaddict> eh a worry for another day I suppose
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> BiilD73: cant you rename folder before you export?
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> BiilD73: make something straight like /media/bill/allsorts
[14:39] <canaima_> canaima
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> !es | canaima_
[14:40] <BluesKaj_> dreamaddict, try the gnome-alsamixer
[14:40] <BiilD73> the drive was name on windows 7 and I'm not linux proficient enough lol  just unmounted it unplugged hooked to laptop to renmae it
[14:41] <dreamaddict> should I apt-get autoremove at any point here to get rid of unneeded packages?
[14:41] <BluesKaj_> yes
[14:41] <dreamaddict> ok got the new alsamixer
[14:43] <BluesKaj_> dreamaddict, does it show volume control sliders etc?
[14:43] <dreamaddict> nope
[14:43] <dreamaddict> there are six check boxes, all labeled IEC958...the first four are checked
[14:44] <dreamaddict> and there is one tab, labeled ATI R6xx HDMI
[14:45] <BiilD73> sweet  renaming it fixed it   was trying to find a work around but seems the spaces are a bug for NFS with no fix as of yet
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> dreamaddict: just of curiosity, wich graphics driver do you have active?
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> !yay | BiilD73
[14:46] <dreamaddict> how do I check?  my settings panel is borked
[14:46] <linwiz> Having some problems with deps while installing a package, anyone have suggestions? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14582395/
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> dreamaddict: sudo lshw -C video
[14:46] <dreamaddict> fglrx_pci
[14:47] <dreamaddict> I downloaded it from the AMD site
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> dreamaddict: did you ever try 15.10?
[14:47] <xangua> linwiz: wrong channel
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> dreamaddict: sounds like a new card
[14:47] <dreamaddict> no I remembered why I didn't download it in the first place...I thought the stable version would be a safer bet
[14:47] <dreamaddict> yeah it's really new
[14:47] <dreamaddict> I kind of splurged building this machine
[14:48] <linwiz> I've tried there already xangua was hoping for some advice any way
[14:48] <cfhowlett> linwiz, you want #debian
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> dreamaddict: could you try a liveusb 15.10 and check if sounds works better there perhaps
[14:48] <dreamaddict> you know I can definitely try that
[14:48] <dreamaddict> in fact I might try getting some kind of sleep and trying that in the morning
[14:48] <dreamaddict> it's almost 7AM here and I've been up for hours diligently hacking away at this
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> dreamaddict: ok mate good luck and come back if you dont get it straight
[14:49] <dreamaddict> yup
[14:49] <dreamaddict> hey BluesKaj, I think I'm going to call it for tonight
[14:49] <dreamaddict> you're off the clock :)
[14:49] <dreamaddict> and seriously thank you for being so patient about this
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | BluesKaj_
[14:50] <dreamaddict> !beer | BluesKaj_
[14:50] <dreamaddict> awww.
[14:51] <peaceful> HI
[14:52] <peaceful> How can i install latest gcc in ubuntu 14.04?
[14:52] <BiilD73> so glad thats fixed, finally ghot rid of the Win7 install for serving my videos to OSMC RPis'   videos stream so much better now from NFS than Samba
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> !latest | peaceful
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> peaceful: its recommended to use package versions for your ubuntu version
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> BiilD73: glad you fixxed it
[14:54] <peaceful> lotuspsychje, i dont need recommended :)
[14:54] <Silenced> Guys . Trying to reinstall ubuntu . In custom partitioning ,will mentioning my previous /home as the /home of current installation delete my existing data ?
[14:54] <peaceful> !backports
[14:54] <xangua> Silenced: if you don't check the square for delete, no
[14:55] <peaceful> !packaging
[14:55] <xangua> peaceful: either find some strange PPA or compile it yourself
[14:55] <mcphail> peaceful: there is no _supported_ way to run latest GCC on 14.04. Ubuntu doesn't work like that. You are welcome to build yourself, find a PPA or install from another source, but it will not be supported on this channel
[14:55] <peaceful> If i enable backports ill get latest versions?
[14:55] <Silenced> xangua you mean the format check box ?
[14:55] <xangua> that's the "not recomended" path, good luck peaceful
[14:56] <xangua> Silenced: if you don't check to format, it won't format :P
[14:56] <Silenced> Okay :P
[14:56] <Dinosaurio> Hey, how to install kde on ubuntu 14.04
[14:57] <peaceful> ok
[14:57] <peaceful> IM going to enable backports
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> Dinosaurio: you can install kubuntu if you like
[14:57] <peaceful> Ubuntu 14.04 have pretty outdated stuff
[14:57] <BiilD73> peaceful its stable and LTS
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> Dinosaurio: or install kubuntu-desktop from your existing install
[14:57] <mcphail> peaceful: that is by design. For "outdated" read "stable"
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> peaceful: thats whay there are non-lts versions also...
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> !info gcc | peaceful
[14:58] <Dinosaurio> I'd like to choose unity or kde every time I log in
[14:58] <xangua> Dinosaurio: wou will be able
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> Dinosaurio: ok then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:58] <peaceful> lotuspsychje, thats in 15.10
[14:58] <Dinosaurio> xangua, lotuspsychje: okay, ty
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> peaceful: yes thats what you need a later gcc right?
[14:59] <LocalHost_80> hi guys is there any way to backup application in ubuntu? i mean the USC application because its hard for me to download it again in other distros
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> !backup | LocalHost_80
[14:59] <peaceful> lotuspsychje, yep
[15:00]  * mcphail doubts the latest gcc will be in Trusty backports
[15:00] <LocalHost_80> thanks a lot ...
[15:00] <LocalHost_80> :-*
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> peaceful: then tryout 15.10...
[15:00] <xangua> Dinosaurio: also if you don't need/want to install every aplications that comes in Kubuntu by default, you probably you want to install plasma desktop
[15:00] <BluesKaj_> the latest isn't necesarily the greatest either
[15:00] <metal> hello
[15:00] <linwiz> peaceful: there are other distros that provide the 'latest and greatest' packages by default; maybe that's what you're looking for?
[15:01] <parallels> just installed
[15:01] <parallels> ubuntu on a mac
[15:01] <peaceful> lotuspsychje, i need to keep 3.13 kernel
[15:01] <Dinosaurio> xangua: Yeah, I only want KDE environment
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> !pinning | peaceful maybe with this method?
[15:03] <xangua> !info plasma-desktop | Dinosaurio
[15:05] <Dinosaurio> xangua: Downloading and installing. Thank you :)
[15:06] <Dinosaurio> It's great to have some free times so you can taste new savours
[15:19] <theone88> hello ive d got ubuntu 14.04 installed on my laptop and when i restart or shut down i don t see that loading bar or purple screen just blank untill its restarted or reopened its that ok?
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> theone88: is your laptop a fast one with ssd?
[15:20] <theone88> no
[15:20] <theone88> hdd
[15:20] <dom____> hello, I'm facing problem with sed http://pastebin.com/Pf5iMGMW. This code some time modify only one line in myfile.txt and some time don't modify any line, but individually  both sed working fine
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> theone88: normally you should see a little of the purple screen before shutdown
[15:21] <theone88> nope i dont see it
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> theone88: what does happen when you press F1 during shutdown process? maybe youl get usefull errors
[15:21] <theone88> i dont know im new on linux let me check
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> dom____: maybe the ##sed guys know?
[15:22] <dom____> ok..thanks
[15:31] <theone88> lotuspsychje should i reinstall ubuntu?
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> theone88: i would investigate a bit first...
[15:32] <theone88> the f1 keys doesnt work when i shutdown
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> theone88: can you check wich graphics card you have and wich driver? pastebin sudo lshw -C video
[15:35] <theone88> it shows me another grafic card
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> theone88: wich chipset please? and what written behind driver=
[15:36] <theone88> wait i copy paste
[15:36] <theone88> -display
[15:36] <theone88>        description: VGA compatible controller
[15:36] <theone88>        product: Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics]
[15:36] <theone88>        vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> theone88: is thi a recent laptop?
[15:37] <theone88> yes lenovo g50-45 with dual graphics
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> theone88: did you try installing the drivers from the amd site?
[15:38] <theone88> in ati catalist i see both graphics card but the r5 one with 2 gb its says unknown display
[15:39] <theone88> nope i dont know how
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> theone88: hmm, maybe you can try ubuntu 15.10 as a test, to see if your new graphics perform better there
[15:39] <theone88> i used aditional drivers
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> theone88: try the drivers from amd, if that doesnt work try 15.10
[15:39] <theone88> how do i install those?
[15:40] <ballmer> if that doesn't work, boot a fedora live usb
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> theone88: check the amd website, and search for your card/drivers
[15:40] <ballmer> it has newer everything
[15:40] <theone88> ok
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> ballmer: please dont suggest fedora here
[15:40] <ballmer> why not
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> ballmer: because your in an ubuntu support channel
[15:40] <cfhowlett> ballmer,  this is ubuntu support.
[15:40] <ballmer> i am here to solve problems not be a fanboy
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> ballmer: this is why we keep sperate channels for each distro
[15:41] <cfhowlett> ballmer, you are here to troll.  please help fedora users, not bother ubuntu users.
[15:41] <ballmer> if you are that thin skinned, then you should not be in a help channel period
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> ballmer: this help channel is about ubuntu, period
[15:42] <linuxlove> hello
[15:43] <ballmer> i will say what i want and if you don't like it then kickban me, and i'll take my business and 30 servers elsewhere.  this is childishness.
[15:43] <linuxlove> can i run xcode in ubuntu?
[15:43] <cfhowlett> linuxlove, as of quite recently ... yues
[15:43] <cfhowlett> *yes*
[15:43] <linuxlove> cfhowlett, how?
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> !info rules | ballmer this is why its not childish
[15:44] <linuxlove> cfhowlett, in virtual machine?
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> !rules | ballmer
[15:45] <ballmer> what guidelines say i can't suggest using another distro to someone on irc whose pc is incompatible with ubuntu?
[15:45] <ballmer> please point it out
[15:45] <cfhowlett> linuxlove, looking.  ther article was quite recent
[15:45] <linuxlove> cfhowlett, could you give me a link please?
[15:46] <nicomachus> ballmer: if you have issues with the guidelines take it up with #ubuntu-ops
[15:46] <cfhowlett> linuxlove, I said ... I'm looking
[15:46] <ballmer> i pay a lot of money to canonical and i will yank every bit of it if this is your attitude
[15:46] <nicomachus> none of us here works for canonical...
[15:46] <cfhowlett> ballmer,and yet you advocate fedora.  please play somewhere else
[15:46] <mcphail> ballmer: calm down please
[15:47] <ballmer> i use both, i am not advocating, i am telling someone what to try IF UBUNTU IS INCOMPATIBLE
[15:47] <ballmer> you fanboy immaturity is unbecoming and represents the ubuntu community poorly
[15:47] <cfhowlett> ballmer, you are not helping now . your intentions are suspect.  your disruptive behavior is obvious.
[15:47] <Danielh90> how do you name a screen?
[15:47] <ballmer> i will bring this up to my canonical rep
[15:48] <linuxlove> okay
[15:53] <crised> I have VLC audio problems, after pausing the video
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> crised: can you tell us what happens
[15:53] <crised> Similar to this thread, although I changed the audio output module, still I have problems V
[15:53] <crised> http://askubuntu.com/q/216370/127130
[15:53] <pbx> ballmer, i just found this in the IRC guidelines: "In #ubuntu-ops you will be able to publicly discuss your matter regarding any of the Ubuntu Core channels with other Ubuntu IRC operators. Please join this channel for conflict escalation/resolution and not other channels."
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> crised: 12?10 is end of life mate
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> crised: we suggest you install a supported version from the topic
[15:54] <crised> lotuspsychje: no... I have the same problem my OS is 15
[15:54] <cfhowlett> linuxlove, OK, found it and ... I was completely wrong. Apple has opensourced SWIFT not xcode.  so sorry for confusing the issue.   https://developer.apple.com/swift/blog/?id=29
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> crised: maybe try 14.04.3 LTS? to test
[15:55] <linuxlove> cfhowlett, okay and do you know how can i run mac os virtually in ubuntu?
[15:56] <Fivecentmike> I am trying to use a Nvidia Geforce GTX960 with Ubuntu 14.04 and I can't get the drivers to properly install despite following several guides on stack overflow.
[15:56] <cfhowlett> linuxlove, have to ask #vbox.  so far as I know, you MUST have vbox installed on a mac to run it virtually
[15:56] <crised> I have Ubuntu 15.10, and I have audio problems when I pause a video in VLC.... any ideas?
[15:56] <nicomachus> crised: what "audio problems"?
[15:56] <eragera> Hello, I also have Ubuntu 15.10 and Im having audio problems with music playback
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> crised: start vlc from the terminal, maybe it spits out usefull errors
[15:56] <eragera> http://askubuntu.com/questions/723352/audio-stutters-while-listening-to-music
[15:56] <eragera> My problem is described here
[15:57] <eragera> Please, I need some help. Listening to my music collection as it warps to hell hurts my soul
[15:57] <cfhowlett> !patience | eragera,
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> !sound | eragera have you tried these steps?
[15:57] <crised> lotuspsychje: [00000000024b21c8] dbus interface error: poll() failed: Interrupted system call
[15:57] <eragera> cfhowlett, Sorry, :P
[15:57] <cfhowlett> eragera, no worries
[15:58] <eragera> I wasnt repeating
[15:58] <eragera> I was trying to list my whole problem out
[15:58] <eragera> so that I could answer most basic questions
[15:58] <kltrg> The GTK display setting manager is gone on of my machines (the thing where I drag and drop monitors and change their resolution). I can’t find out the package name to install it. How is it called?
[15:58] <theone88> lotuspsychje i can find the drivers should i install ubuntu 15.10 and use aditional drivers after inastall?
[15:58] <nicomachus> kltrg: the regular system settings menu?
[15:59] <nicomachus> kltrg: unity-control-center?
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> theone88: i would first try the drivers ubuntu chooses, if it doesnt perform well, try the amd drivers
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> crised: could you try to pause in smplayer as a test please? just to see if its vlc or the sound
[16:00] <nicomachus> eragera: what music player are you using that is browser-dependent?
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> !info smplayer | crised
[16:01] <eragera> nicomachus, Im using Exaile
[16:01] <theone88> ok at install i use this partition scheme 1st root  2nd home and swap its ok like this?
[16:01] <eragera> It is not browser dependent, atleast afaik
[16:01] <w00tburger> anyoen know if there is there such a thing for hyper V which is that of "guest tools" in environments such as vmware and virtualbox?
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> theone88: use the automatic partitioning
[16:01] <eragera> I tried Rythmbox, Clementine
[16:01] <nicomachus> eragera: lol, then why would switching from Chrome to Firefox make a difference? Checking out other issues...
[16:01] <eragera> Neither worked
[16:01] <theone88> for 1tb hdd?
[16:01] <cfhowlett> theone88, yep.  let ubuntu figure it out.
[16:02] <eragera> I just shifted for the heck of it
[16:02] <nicomachus> eragera: do you get the same stutter in other music players?
[16:02] <eragera> Yes
[16:02] <eragera> I do
[16:02] <crised> it's fixed, Changed to output ALSA, then Audio device is set to Pulse Audio SoundServer, works flawless
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> w00tburger: maybe the #vbox guys know?
[16:02] <eragera> Not in MPV tho
[16:02] <eragera> MPV works like a charm
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> !yay | crised
[16:02] <theone88> ok thank you very much guys
[16:02] <nicomachus> eragera: so it's a pulseaudio issue likely... do you have any custom pulse settings? I think they're in ~/.pulse
[16:02] <eragera> I already deleted that 3 times over
[16:03] <eragera> didnt fix
[16:03] <nicomachus> ok. one moment.
[16:03] <eragera> You need to know tho
[16:03] <eragera> Im a linux casual
[16:03] <eragera> I dont know much about anything
[16:03] <eragera> just your basic stuff a newb would know
[16:03] <nicomachus> eragera: no problem there. :) but try not to hit the enter key so much, keep it all one line whenever possible.
[16:04] <eragera> its a bad habit which my friends tell me to fix a lot, but it just doesnt go...
[16:04] <w00tburger> not sure if that is a vbox question lol. I cant seem to find a hyper-V channel
[16:04] <kltrg> nicomachus, The control center is there. But not all the entries are there. The display one is missing for example.
[16:04] <nicomachus> eragera: ha. you said ubuntu 15.10? what kernel?
[16:04] <eragera> ....
[16:04] <eragera> ermm.... How do I check that?
[16:04] <nicomachus> eragera: in a terminal, type "uname -a"
[16:05] <eragera> Linux Gaurav-PC 4.2.0-23-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Sun Dec 27 17:48:35 UTC 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[16:05] <eragera> Is what this says
[16:05] <eragera> Tilda is handy af, btw
[16:05] <nicomachus> eragera: ok. first, go ahead and do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[16:05] <Danielh90> I'm trying to make a .sh and when I try and do sudo ./start.sh it says command not found but I have a command that I can just work in the terminal
[16:06] <eragera> 0 all
[16:06] <eragera> I update it all once a day
[16:06] <nicomachus> eragera: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:06] <nicomachus> you should have a kernel upgrade that was pushed out yesterday.
[16:06] <user_> Hey guys does someone have a good solution in respect to Antivirus?
[16:06] <eragera> nicomachus, I made an alias to update
[16:06] <user_> for Ubuntu?
[16:06] <eragera> which does all the update and upgrade commands
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> user_: clamav
[16:06] <eragera> shall i just run that?
[16:06] <cfhowlett> !malware | user_
[16:06] <nicomachus> user_: clamav
[16:07] <jophish> I'm getting strange tearing on an external monitor. The tearing is along a diagonal line
[16:07] <nicomachus> eragera: yes, please run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[16:07] <eragera> oh boy
[16:07] <eragera> this gonna be a while
[16:07] <user_> Mmm I just installed ClamAv and it didnt work. In other words it juyst tells me that there are some infected files, but it doesnt tell me thepath of this files or how to delete them
[16:07] <nicomachus> eragera: whats your update alias?
[16:07] <Guest35435> daniel try bash start.sh
[16:07] <eragera> one sec
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> user_: probably a false positive
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> user_: can you remember its name?
[16:08] <eragera> alias update='sudo apt-get update -y && sudo apt-get upgrade -y && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y && sudo apt-get autoremove -y && sudo apt-get upgrade -y && sudo apt-get autoremove -y'
[16:08] <user_> What do you mean with its name?
[16:08] <user_> sorry for my ignorance
[16:08] <eragera> I didnt write this myself, got it from a friend who uses linux but took pity on my useless self
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> user_: you said you had infected files...
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> user_: infected with wich trojan/worm?
[16:09] <user_> O yes, but the problem is that I dont know the name of the files because ClamAv just say "4 infected files" nothing more
[16:09] <user_> that my doubt
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> user_: you should have a log of the scan
[16:10] <cobra> 有人会说中文吗？
[16:10] <user_> how can I access to that log?
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> user_: try /var/log/clamav
[16:10] <cfhowlett> !cn | cobra
[16:10] <user_> Give me a sec
[16:10] <eragera> Wait is that Japanese?
[16:10] <rip__> 我
[16:10] <cobra> 第一次玩这个东西
[16:10] <compdoc> pretty
[16:11] <cfhowlett> could be = let
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> user_: pastebin if possible
[16:11] <eragera> :| Do I need to open up google translate? Prolly not. Let's just look the other way
[16:11] <cfhowlett> !jp | cobra
[16:11] <user_> Ok, give me a sec
[16:11] <nicomachus> eragera: don't worry about it. just redirecting users to the proper channel.
[16:11] <eragera> I see
[16:11] <nicomachus> eragera: we need to make some changes to your alias, it isn't updating properly because the syntax is off.
[16:12] <eragera> Oh. I see.
[16:12] <nicomachus> errr... wait. could be my fault. one sec.
[16:12] <user_> Tue Jan 19 23:11:21 2016 -> +++ Started at Tue Jan 19 23:11:21 2016
[16:12] <user_> Tue Jan 19 23:11:21 2016 -> Received 0 file descriptor(s) from systemd.
[16:12] <user_> Tue Jan 19 23:11:21 2016 -> clamd daemon 0.98.7 (OS: linux-gnu, ARCH: x86_64, CPU: x86_64)
[16:12] <user_> Tue Jan 19 23:11:21 2016 -> Running as user clamav (UID 121, GID 129)
[16:12] <user_> Tue Jan 19 23:11:21 2016 -> Log file size limited to<PHONE_NUMBER>bytes.
[16:12] <user_> Tue Jan 19 23:11:21 2016 -> Reading databases from /var/lib/clamav
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> !paste | user_
[16:13] <eragera> Just listening to my Anime Songs
[16:13] <eragera> nicomachus, Ive noticed one thing
[16:13] <nicomachus> eragera: sorry it's fine. did you get any upgrades with the command I had you run?
[16:13] <eragera> It doesnt warp on some certain songs
[16:13] <eragera> which are calmer
[16:14] <pulsarpietro> hia
[16:14] <eragera> nicomachus, Its updating the kernel. I think.
[16:14] <nicomachus> good. that's a big security patch.
[16:14] <user_> the pastbin id is]: 14582978
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> user_: full url please
[16:15] <user_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14582978/
[16:15] <Fivecentmike> I am trying to use a Nvidia Geforce GTX960 with Ubuntu 14.04 and I can't get the drivers to properly install. Installing Nvidia's drivers through Software and Updates seems to proceed without error, but on reboot I'm unable to login.
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> user_: i dont see infected on there?
[16:16] <user_> Yeah its strange
[16:16] <eragera> Oh btw, If I read 'Python for dummies' will I be able to learn basic python skills?
[16:16] <user_> I run ClamAv yesterday and it said that there where 4 infected files
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> user_: so your safe! why do you suspect a virus exactly.
[16:16] <nicomachus> eragera: no idea, I'm currently learning python myself. #python can help you with that, though.
[16:16] <user_> and I cant find the files
[16:17] <user_> or the log
[16:17] <eragera> I see
[16:17] <user_> Im worried becasue of this nerw troyan that take snapshots of your system every 3 seconds
[16:17] <user_> and also because sometimes my laptop lags
[16:17] <Guest35435> I thought 'Learn Python The Hard Way' was great
[16:17] <user_> and it shoudnt, it has a good processor and disk :(
[16:18] <ikonia> user_: what new trojan ?
[16:18] <eragera> the hard way... urgh...
[16:18] <xangua> user_: alredy being patched
[16:18] <user_> Yeah
[16:18] <user_> for real?
[16:18] <user_> So im "safe"
[16:18] <user_> ?
[16:18] <flexus> hi, when purging my old, unused kernels i get a libc6-dev error i cant solve: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14582998/
[16:18] <eragera> I have exams in a month so I cant dedicate more than about 30 mins to 1 hour to python a day
[16:18] <ikonia> user_: what new trojan are you talking about
[16:18] <nicomachus> flexus: I can't read that... lol.
[16:19] <flexus> nicomachus, yeah, german gg
[16:19] <nicomachus> !de | flexus
[16:19] <ServantGrunt> Good evening everyone, I'm in need of some help with the management of Juju and MaaS, can anyone help me?
[16:19] <user_> The one that takes picture of your system every 30 seconds, store the images locally and uploads them to a remote server
[16:19] <ph88> how much space do i need for ubuntu gnome without home drive and swap ?
[16:20] <flexus> maybe i can translate: libc6-dev depends on linux-libc-dev but should not be installed
[16:20] <eragera> nicomachus, Is there a need for me to install an antivirus on linux? When I used to use windows I didnt get a malware/virus for about 6 years, until I got fed up with M$'s shit and uninstalled it from my system.
[16:20] <xangua> !virus | eragera
[16:20] <user_> and also I ve been suspecting of a possible virus or trojan etc., because I havent been able to upgrade to 16.04 lts correctly; also after the upgrade my video performance descre<sed a lot. I play Dota2 and now its has fps lag :(
[16:20] <xangua> user_: do you install thing outside of the official repositories?
[16:20] <ikonia> user_: what trojan is this
[16:20] <eragera> I see. Thnx Mr.Bot
[16:20] <nicomachus> eragera: language... and no you should be fine without one, so long as you don't click shady links and are careful when downloading / sharing files with other computers.
[16:21] <user_> No nothing, I have everything default
[16:21] <xangua> user_: Xenial is not yet stable
[16:21] <eragera> Sorry :P
[16:21] <ikonia> user_: you're quoting a lot of very specific information about a trojan you believe you have, what is the name, where is the cve for this trojan
[16:21] <xangua> user_: then why all this paranoid?
[16:21] <user_> what is Xenial?
[16:21] <user_> no, its not paranoid
[16:21] <nicomachus> !xenial | user_
[16:21] <user_> its that before when I had a 15.01
[16:21] <ikonia> user_: thats the release you say you're trying to upgrade to
[16:21] <user_> my laptop worked perfectly
[16:22] <ServantGrunt> Hum, can anyone give me a moment please?
[16:22] <ikonia> user_: what is the name/detail of this trojan you keep referencing
[16:22] <user_> lol, so I upgraded partiallty or something like that?
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> !ask | ServantGrunt
[16:22] <ServantGrunt> I asked before but nobody answered (?)
[16:22] <user_> ikonia, give me a sec Ill give you the name now
[16:22] <ServantGrunt> Anyway, I'm in need of some help with the management of Juju and MaaS, can anyone help me?
[16:23] <TJ-> ServantGrunt: you'll be better off in the #ubuntu-server channel for those issues
[16:23] <user_> Linux.Ekoms.1
[16:23] <user_> that the name
[16:23] <ServantGrunt> Oh, alright
[16:23] <user_> Dr.web found it
[16:23] <ServantGrunt> Thanks
[16:23] <ServantGrunt> Bye!
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> user_: try the clamav database instead
[16:23] <nicomachus> flexus: why are you using such a complicated method of removing old kernels instead of just "apt-get autoremove"?
[16:24] <user_> Ill try that
[16:24] <flexus> nicomachus, autoremove doesnt remove things in /boot, dont know why
[16:24] <user_> so in conclusion I have to wait until 24th? to get 16.04  LTS?
[16:24] <user_> Why then do I had the option to upgradE?
[16:24] <nicomachus> flexus: it should... unless you are manually installing all of your kernels.
[16:24] <adriajk> 24 of this month?
[16:24] <ikonia> user_: and why do you think this specific trojan is impacting you ?
[16:25] <user_> I havent been able to check if it affecting me or not
[16:25] <ikonia> what ?
[16:25] <user_> because I havent been available to get into the folder it suppose
[16:25] <ikonia> you're saying you're worried you have it,
[16:25] <user_> to store the picutres
[16:25] <ikonia> user_: what folder can you not access ?
[16:25] <user_> is not that Im thinking I have been infeted
[16:25] <user_> its just makingsure,you never know
[16:25] <user_> give me a sec
[16:25] <user_> Ill give you the folders
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> user_: ekoms shows nothing: http://clamav-du.securesites.net/cgi-bin/clamgrok?virus=ekoms&search-type=contains&case-sensitivity=No&database=daily&database=main&display=database&display=virus&.submit=Query+verzenden&.cgifields=database&.cgifields=search-type&.cgifields=case-sensitivity&.cgifields=display
[16:27] <user_> $HOME/$DATA/.mozilla/firefox/profiled
[16:27] <user_> $HOME/$DATA/.dropbox/DropboxCache
[16:27] <flexus> nicomachus, i only use lowlatency and got standard as an option, this makes /boot full
[16:27] <ikonia> user_: what happens when you try to get to this folder ?
[16:27] <user_> Ill be afk a bit
[16:28] <user_> I cant get to it
[16:28] <ikonia> define "can't get into it"
[16:28] <user_> that the problem
[16:28] <nicomachus> flexus: ok, well I'll defer to others here then, because I'm just not sure.
[16:28] <user_> I cant access the directory
[16:28] <user_> probably casue its doesnt exist
[16:28] <nicomachus> because it doesn't exist?
[16:28] <user_> meaning im not infected
[16:28] <ikonia> ???
[16:28] <user_> I dont really know :(
[16:29] <sruli> TJ-: do you have a few minutes now to finish with my routing issue?
[16:29] <user_> How would you try to access to it?
[16:29] <ikonia> you'll do better stating your problem
[16:29] <ikonia> not random guesses with no reason that distract from the problem
[16:29] <ph88> what's the size of ubuntu OS ?
[16:29] <xangua> ph88: installed like 4GB
[16:29] <flexus> nicomachus, ok, someone one .de channel is jumping in
[16:29] <TJ-> sruli: how far have you gotten with it?
[16:30] <user_> Yes, sorry. Ill investigate further, sorry Im new here and learning the way how to chat etc. Ill try my best
[16:30] <eragera> nicomachus, Its been stuck at this for the past 5 mins now     run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms 4.2.0-25-generic /boot/vmlinuz-4.2.0-25-generic
[16:30] <sruli> TJ-: nothing since we last spoke
[16:30] <hobbes> afternoon all
[16:30] <nicomachus> eragera: ok, let it go a few more minutes. definitely don't want to stop a kernel upgrade mid-way through.
[16:31] <flexus> nicomachus, atm no problem solving idea
[16:31] <eragera> k. While that updates, I have another problem regarding skype
[16:31] <nicomachus> eragera: you can ask... but idk if anyone here can really provide skype support. the linux build is just so bad.
[16:32] <eragera> The skype chat Im on gets a lot of img posts
[16:32] <eragera> imgur links, to be specific
[16:32] <TJ-> sruli: I'm having difficulty remembering the exact scenario. Is this it? Bare-metal host + virtual machines. Host+VMs should not have public (Internet) access unless the VPN is active
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> eragera: convice your friends to use telegram
[16:32] <eragera> Clicking on the link takes it about 1 min to open in chromium. 45 seconds to be exact.
[16:32] <pbx> is it possible to disable the super-tap that opens the dash?
[16:33] <eragera> lotuspsychje, Tried to do the same with discord, they told me to 'piss off'
[16:33] <nicomachus> pbx: yes, in your keyboard shortcuts menu in the system settings.
[16:33] <sruli> TJ-: correct, in 14.04 with virtualbox, my iptables rules did the trick, however in 15.10 with KVM it does not work, i'm guessing its more to do with KVM than 15.10
[16:35] <eragera> nicomachus, done
[16:35] <eragera> now what?
[16:35] <nicomachus> eragera: great. now check and see if you still get the music stuttering. A kernel upgrade *may* have helped.
[16:35] <nicomachus> also, reboot first if you haven't already.
[16:35] <eragera> I cant really reproduce the problem as I wish it
[16:35] <eragera> It just comes and goes
[16:36] <eragera> But Ill try rebooting
[16:36] <TJ-> sruli: In theory, no, but it depends on how the VMs network traffic is being handled. I seem to recall it was using NAT, so instead of rules in the FORWARD/OUTPUT table the VMs would require rules in the 'nat' table either OUTPUT or POSTROUTING to block it, or as an alternative use Policy-Based routing so the VM network uses a separate routing table (so you could simply drop its default route)
[16:36] <Codename47> Scrolling speed/animation in firefox seems a bit poor. It's not as smooth as say chrome in windows. Is this normal? Using ATI drivers
[16:37] <xangua> Codename47: what Firefox version are you using? You cloud try disabling smooth scroll
[16:38] <eragera> nicomachus, Back
[16:38] <Codename47> disabling smooth scroll kinda helps, but i miss the smoothness really hmm
[16:38] <sruli> TJ-: how would i do that?
[16:39] <eragera> So, I just wait for it to reproduce? If nothing happens, problem fixed?
[16:39] <hobbes> so additional drivers... I'm getting an unknown:unknown [this device is using an alternative driver] Using Processor microcode firmware for intel CPUs from intel-microcode
[16:39] <HackerII> Codename47:  try smoothwheel firefox adon
[16:39] <hobbes> I guess thats not great?
[16:40] <nicomachus> eragera: ok. as I said, the kernel upgrade may have fixed it. However, you mentioned that more "intense" songs will cause it more often, so if you do still get errors, try using something like Pulse Audio Equalizer to dial back some of the more intense parts: https://www.maketecheasier.com/pulse-audio-equalizer-ubuntu/
[16:40] <TJ-> sruli: best to stick with the iptables side for now. Did you look-at/absorb that graphic I linked you to, that explains the route through the kernel netfilter tables/chains ?
[16:40] <abhishek> Hi, I am new to this channel
[16:40] <hobbes> hey Abhi
[16:40] <bx758> Hey
[16:41] <bx758> i have  a strange question
[16:41] <hobbes> how does one upgrade the kernal//determine proper version?
[16:41] <Quake> + for all
[16:41] <TJ-> sruli: understanding that, and how different network configurations enter the processing at different points, is essential to being competent with netfilters, and its ip{,6}tables tools.
[16:41] <nicomachus> hobbes: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:41] <Codename47> smoothwheel make sit kinda laggy, i'll make sure FF is updated..
[16:41] <sruli> TJ-: i did spend some time on it, but did get it well enough to be able to proceed on my own
[16:41] <HackerII> you have to manipulate it, plenty of settings
[16:42] <hobbes> thank you nicomachus
[16:42] <BiilD73> wow Quake... There's a game I ain't played in years
[16:42] <Quake> yes!!!!
[16:42] <bx758> when i logon to xubuntu, my mousepad is locked, sometimes i cant click anything and sometimes mouse is on dragging mode. its dragging desktop and make rectangle until i touch a button on my laptop named "AV MODE" then after 10 seconds it will release. what is the solution?
[16:42] <nicomachus> hobbes: and be sure to upgrade ASAP, there was a rather significant security patch released yesterday. :)
[16:43] <bx758> its happening on all ubuntus
[16:44] <Codename47> Another slight issues i'm having, i have a USB wifi dongle. Works fine. But everytime i shutdown/reboot i have to unplug it and plug it back in again for it to be recognised. Any ideas?
[16:44] <Codename47> using ubuntu-mate, if that could be an issue
[16:45] <nicomachus> Codename47: what's the chipset, do you know?
[16:46] <hobbes> nicomachus, i did as you said and was prompted to autoremove a few packages, which i did
[16:47] <nicomachus> hobbes: yep, pretty standard. what do you have in /boot now? (ls -la /boot)
[16:47] <pbx> nicomachus, in which subgroup? i'm not seeing it anywhere.  only reference to super keys i see at all is "compose key: right win" under "Typing"
[16:47] <TJ-> sruli: for your situation of VM routing, the packets will enter the path in the "routing/forwarding" entry point. Therefore, the places where you can impose rules on them are nat/FORWARD, nat/POSTROUTING (mangle table has very limited target options) http://blogs.longwin.com.tw/lifetype/nfk-traversal.png
[16:48] <nicomachus> pbx: System Settings --> Keyboard --> "Shortcuts" tab
[16:48] <ph88> hey guys i just installed ubuntu gnome ... after i log in my desktop often disappears
[16:48] <pbx> nicomachus, right.  there is a list of groups on the left in that dialog.  where is the dash super-tap found?
[16:48] <ph88> what to do ?
[16:49] <nicomachus> pbx: oh. it doesn't appear to be there... one sec.
[16:49] <hobbes> it looks like i have 2 versions 4.2.0-23 and 25 (of a number of files)
[16:49] <nicomachus> pbx: https://askubuntu.com/questions/105558/how-do-i-disable-the-super-key
[16:49] <nicomachus> hobbes: good!
[16:50] <hobbes> sweet, thanks man, i have no clue how to make sense of this yet ;)
[16:50] <nicomachus> hobbes: you'll get there. :)
[16:50] <hobbes> reboot advised??
[16:50] <pbx> good find nicomachus, thanks
[16:50] <nicomachus> hobbes: yes, always after a kernel upgrade.
[16:50] <hobbes> brbs <3
[16:53] <sruli> TJ-: i already have the following rules, what rules do i need to add/change paste.ubuntu.com/14583227
[16:53] <goddard> do the source files for the latest wily kernel get patched as well?
[16:54] <TJ-> sruli: before changing any rules, what are you trying to do - which part of the aims is failing - is it the VMs have routing to the Internet without the VPN enabled?
[16:55] <hobbes_> back -- system seems to be improved after the kernal upgrade
[16:55] <TJ-> goddard: how do you mean? The source-code is the basis for building the binaries
[16:57] <linuxlove> hello guys
[16:57] <linuxlove> what is your opinion about this whicj of them will stay mirosoft or linux?
[16:57] <bramgn> where would they be going?
[16:58] <linuxlove> one of them will die
[16:58] <sruli> TJ-: yes the VM's still have internet when VPN is disconnected
[16:58] <xangua> ! Ot | linuxlove
[16:59] <linuxlove> i think microsoft will die
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> linuxlove  great, but take it elewhere
[16:59] <TJ-> sruli: OK. please use "sudo iptables-save" to generate the pastebin list of rules in effect; it's the best way to see all rules at once without any presentation alterations.
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> elsewhere*
[17:00] <sruli> TJ-: ok, 1 min
[17:00] <hobbes_> under software and updates, would someone please inform me on the default "Other Software" checked off boxes?
[17:03] <Silenced> Guys . How to check whether my GPU is active ?
[17:03] <hobbes_> like to know that too
[17:04] <P0bailey> #ubuntu
[17:04] <Pici> preyalone: thats here
[17:04] <Pici> preyalone: oops
[17:05] <link0802> Hi. Why this code not work for indicator? I see just simple ImageMenuItem, no any makrup :(new = gtk.ImageMenuItem('<b>'+title+'</b>') label.set_markup('<span foreground="blue" size="x-large">Blue text</span> is <i>cool</i>!') label.set_use_markup(True)
[17:06] <Pici> link0802: I think you may have the wrong channel. This is #ubuntu, were you looking for some programming channel?
[17:07] <link0802> I write indicator-applet for ubuntu, so I guess maybe here someone can help me, sorry if I am in wrong channel :)
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> linuxlove  there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> link0802  ^^
[17:08] <link0802> thank :)
[17:11] <BiilD73> deluge or uTorrent 3.3 for 13.04?
[17:11] <nicomachus> !pm hobbes_
[17:11] <nicomachus> ugh.
[17:11] <nicomachus> !pm | hobbes_
[17:11] <bx758> when i logon to xubuntu, my mousepad is locked, sometimes i cant click anything and sometimes mouse is on dragging mode. its dragging desktop and make rectangle until i touch a button on my laptop named "AV MODE" then after 10 seconds it will release. what is the solution?
[17:15] <hobbes_> oh, im sorry, i guess you guys are admins?
[17:16] <Janko> Hello, is this the right channel for installation support?
[17:17] <xangua> Janko: this is the Ubuntu support channel
[17:18] <BluesKaj> Janko, are you installing ubuntu?
[17:18] <Janko> Good. I'm looking to install ubuntu on a laptop, EFI native w/secure boot and own keys
[17:20] <Janko> and I can't figure out how to boot it up. I tried picking bootx64.efi from CD's efi partition and sbsign-ing it, but it won't work
[17:22] <Janko> Alternatively, is there a way to install ubuntu from an existing linux OS? I only found some archaic debootstrap guides
[17:23] <eragera> nicomachus, You on?
[17:23] <n0taphilic> ANYBODY HAVE A GOOD DHCP CLIENT ALTERNATIVE SCRIPT OR APP FOR XUBUNTU/DEBIAN PM ME
[17:23] <nicomachus> yea I'm here
[17:23] <eragera> I started listening to my playlist again since I was going to start reading up on python
[17:23] <eragera> it still stutters
[17:23] <sruli> TJ-: iptables-save paste.ubuntu.com/14583427 also should ip_forward be enabled? in my 14.04 setup with virtualbox i remember it needed to be enabled but now i dont see any difference when its enabled/disabled
[17:23] <xangua> n0taphilic: that's the best way to not get an answer
[17:23] <ServantGrunt> Good evening, I'm back here because no body on #ubuntu-server noticed me. Is there anyone available to help me with juju and Ubuntu Server with MaaS?
[17:23] <hobbes_> Okay, I should explain that I know very little about linux in general but enough to be dangerous to myself, thats for sure. It seems like I've tried to get into the swing of linux about 4 times. First ubuntu, then mint a few times. I usually end up reformatting after a month because something goes wrong, usually with upgrades.  Patience | ServantGrunt Rome wasn't built in a day
[17:24] <eragera> nicomachus, its more broken now.....
[17:24] <ServantGrunt> I've been waiting for more than an hour lol... Alright then, back to ubuntu-server channel
[17:25] <nicomachus> eragera: what's your audio coming out of? GPU, motherboard outputs?
[17:25] <n0taphilic> xangua THANKS BUDDYD
[17:25] <eragera> ....
[17:25] <nicomachus> eragera: what kind of computer do you have?
[17:25] <eragera> Umm
[17:25] <eragera> Laptop
[17:25] <nicomachus> ok, what model?
[17:25] <eragera> Lenovo s20-30
[17:25] <xangua> ServantGrunt: if you just ask someone to assist you you will never ever get an answer, ask your Actual Question
[17:26] <Ant1x> Hi everybody ;)
[17:26] <eragera> I can get you the arch wiki page with the specs if that helps
[17:26] <nicomachus> eragera: already looking at them.
[17:26] <eragera> I see
[17:26] <TJ-> sruli: lines 20-22 are those allowing the VM's sub-net to be NATed. So either you remove those when the VPN isn't present, or you insert a rule before them that DROPs the traffic that would have been MASQUERADEd
[17:26] <hobbes_> Would someone please explain there logical approach to upgrading in Linux?
[17:27] <Kirito> requests.exceptions.SSLError: [Errno 1] _ssl.c:510: error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert handshake failure - Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS ; Exception thrown by requests in python2 from the repositories. Running the latest version. Is this a known issue with a fix?
[17:27] <sruli> TJ-: what exactly should be the rule to drop them?
[17:28] <Joel> what's the correct way in 14.04 to set a custom DNS server to use? (why on earth can't I just edit resolv.conf :\ )
[17:30] <hobbes_> TJ, I realize this will sound stupid but can't you edit dns by right clicking your connection -> edit
[17:30] <hobbes_> ?
[17:30] <al2o3-cr> Joel: resolvconf
[17:30] <eragera> nicomachus, Even youtube videos are screwed up now...
[17:30] <TJ-> sruli: hmmm, how about "iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING 3 -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 ! -d <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -j DROP"
[17:30] <Joel> al2o3-cr, could you be more specific?
[17:31] <al2o3-cr> It's a tool for managing dns configs
[17:31] <nicomachus> eragera: ok, give me a moment. multi-tasking over here
[17:31] <xangua> 11:30 AM <hobbes_> TJ, I realize this will sound stupid but can't you edit dns by right clicking your connection -> edit / I think that was for Joel
[17:31] <al2o3-cr> can't be more specific as i've never used it
[17:32] <eragera> Ah ok
[17:32] <hobbes_> Oh, yes, it was, sorry
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> eragera: wich graphics driver are you on?
[17:33] <eragera> Intel Integrated graphics?
[17:34] <sruli> TJ-: i get an error "The "nat" table is not intended for filtering, the use of DROP is therefore inhibited"
[17:34] <eragera> I didnt install any drivers myslef
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> eragera: single card or hybrid with ati/nvidia?
[17:34] <eragera> myself*
[17:34] <eragera> Single Card, I think
[17:34] <Joel> hobbes_, no gui here, thanks though!
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> eragera: can you check sudo lshw -C video
[17:35] <TJ-> sruli: ahhh, yes, another gotchya! I was trying to avoid removing those rules
[17:35] <al2o3-cr> Joel: just add your ns to /etc/network/interfaces
[17:35] <hobbes_> what does that command do lotus?
[17:35] <al2o3-cr> that what i do
[17:35] <eragera> lotuspsychje, this was the output
[17:35] <eragera>   *-display
[17:35] <eragera>        description: VGA compatible controller
[17:35] <eragera>        product: Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display
[17:35] <eragera>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[17:35] <eragera>        physical id: 2
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> hobbes_: wasnt for you mate, but shows graphics chipset
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> eragera: have you tried on LTS?
[17:36] <eragera> Am I back?
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> yes
[17:37] <eragera> Yes, Sorry for the spam, channel
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> eragera: have you tried an LTS version
[17:37] <eragera> I havent
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> eragera: maybe its worth to test and compare with 14.04.3?
[17:37] <TJ-> sruli: try replacing the "-j DROP" with "-j RETURN" so processing returns to the calling chain
[17:38] <k1l_> !paste | eragera use that
[17:38] <hwpplayer1> Hi friends , i need to learn the frameworks in ubuntu , especially if there is gtk and qt frameworks both loaded to the system or not
[17:38] <eragera> lotuspsychje, hmm
[17:39] <eragera> Should I install it on my usb and try it that way?
[17:39] <eragera> Not liveUSB
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> eragera: you can try live sure
[17:39] <eragera> Nah
[17:39] <eragera> I was talking about installing it on my usb
[17:39] <eragera> using one usb to hold the live
[17:40] <eragera> and the other to be used as the install drive
[17:40] <eragera> Oh wait. a VM would work just as well, wouldnt it?
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> eragera: making a persistent is a bit harder to do, but sure your the boss
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> eragera: i would recommend physicly not vm for your case
[17:40] <eragera> I see.
[17:40] <eragera> I should have went for LTS in the first place
[17:41] <eragera> I just clicked the first version I saw like an idiot
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> eragera: that depends really mate, some users benefit from latest
[17:41] <eragera> Well Im a noob, really
[17:41] <eragera> I cant benefit from it
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> eragera: we all here to learn mate
[17:41] <eragera> Yea
[17:41] <hwpplayer1> you'll be better tomorrow
[17:41] <eragera> Wait I forgot, I have a manjaro persistence lying somewhere around here
[17:42] <eragera> should I try it through that?
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> eragera: no try a good ol clean ubuntu
[17:42] <eragera> k
[17:42] <eragera> More work.. sigh..
[17:43] <sruli> TJ-: it didnt complain about the rule but VM still has internet while VPN disonnected
[17:44] <eragera> The fact that I dont get internet when I clean install linux doesnt help
[17:44] <hwpplayer1> can i talk with a developer or sysadmin in private ?
[17:44] <eragera> not one bit
[17:44] <TJ-> sruli: what test are using from within the VM to determine it has connectivity?
[17:45] <eragera> lotuspsychje, Do you know where I can get Ubuntu MATE LTS?
[17:45] <eragera> I dont see it on the download page
[17:45] <sruli> TJ-: different websites
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> eragera: from the ubuntu-mate website
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> eragera  no, for 14.04 you need a ppa if ypou want MATE
[17:46] <davidmichaelkarr> Concerning "firewall-cmd" vs. "gufw", just as an exercise, I'm trying to see if adding services to a zone in gufw results in the same thing in firewall-cmd, and I'm not seeing it.
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> eragera: #ubuntu-mate for their topic
[17:46] <eragera> lotuspsychje, Im not that nooby.... It isnt on their site
[17:46] <eragera> only 15.10
[17:46] <eragera> MonkeyDust, Ty for that info. Ill have to go with ugly ol' unity then
[17:46] <eragera> No offence to anyone who likes Unity
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> eragera  yes, MATE isnt available as an .iso, for 14.04
[17:47] <eragera> Ayy
[17:47] <eragera> I found it! https://ubuntu-mate.org/trusty/
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> eragera  use something else, if you don't like unity
[17:47] <xangua> MonkeyDust: isn't there an 14.04 iso in the Ubuntu mate website?
[17:47] <eragera> MonkeyDust, I found MATE LTS
[17:48] <eragera> It was just not on the front page
[17:48] <eragera> Had to google it
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> yep but its a 14.04.2 so update right away ok eragera
[17:48] <eragera> Yea
[17:48] <eragera> I will
[17:49] <eragera> Well Ill just let it overnight as my net isnt exactly the best...
[17:51] <eragera> lotuspsychje, btw, I went to #ubuntu-mate with my problem
[17:51] <prom2-147> eeee
[17:51] <eragera> nobody there responded for 2 hours
[17:52] <eragera> so I gave up on that, came here.
[17:52] <TJ-> sruli: are you using libvirt to manage the VMs? if so, it'd be better to use its functions to disable ouput
[17:54] <sruli> TJ-: yes i am using libvirt, how do disable it in libvirt
[17:55] <TJ-> sruli: There's a good overview of the rules it creates for different network types http://libvirt.org/firewall.html
[17:57] <TJ-> sruli: "virsh nwfilter-list" would be useful to see what rules it is controlling, to begin with
[17:59] <Silenced> Guys , does installing wine on ubuntu 15.10 affects AMD graphics drivers ?
[17:59] <goddard> do the source files for the latest wily kernel get patched as well?
[17:59] <Silenced> Like it does on ubuntu 14.04
[18:00] <TJ-> goddard: how do you mean? The source-code is the basis for building the binaries
[18:00] <goddard> TJ-: the package source
[18:00] <TJ-> goddard: right ... as I said ^^^^
[18:00] <goddard> TJ-: its based on source code from the kernel
[18:01] <TJ-> goddard: kernel source-code > build > package > archive > distribute > apt-get dist-upgrade > installed
[18:01] <k1l_> goddard: the source code gets patched and then the ubuntu packages are build.
[18:02] <goddard> k1l_: so if i re-download the lts kernel I will have the patch in it?
[18:03] <k1l_> goddard: if you get the ubuntu updates you will get a new kernel package that include al known fixes
[18:03] <goddard> k1l_: for example linux-signed-image-generic-lts-wily
[18:03] <goddard> k1l_: i built mine from source
[18:03] <goddard> from the package source
[18:03] <k1l_> goddard: that is just a meta-package and will always link to the latest packages
[18:03] <alimj> Hello. Could I add comments to "authorized_key" files for SSH keys? Is it allowed to comment lines with #
[18:04] <goddard> k1l_: and the latest is the version with the patch
[18:05] <OerHeks> to be sure, check the version number,. goddard
[18:05] <TJ-> alimj: see "man 5 authorized_keys" and the "AUTHORIZED_KEYS FILE FORMAT" section
[18:06] <sruli> TJ-: i'll read it and get back to you
[18:06] <goddard> OerHeks: thats a good idea ... im a newb at this, but where are the version release notes from ubuntu?
[18:07] <alimj> TJ-: Thanks
[18:07] <OerHeks> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[18:07] <alimj> alimj: Done ;-)
[18:08] <goddard> OerHeks: thanks
[18:08] <OerHeks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-0728.html
[18:08] <k1l> goddard: packages.ubuntu.com search for your packages, see the changelogs etc on the sidebar
[18:09] <OerHeks> some mirrors are a day behind
[18:09] <django_1> good day everyone
[18:09] <TJ-> sruli: I suspect your commands flushing the tables may be affecting libvirt's own rules, based on their description of chains named 'libvirt-*' at least. Or maybe they dropped the indirection to their own chains.
[18:10] <goddard> ok k1l ill look at this have to bookmark it
[18:10] <TJ-> goddard: "apt-get changelog <package>" will help
[18:10] <noise__> Hi guys
[18:11] <noise__> i have a problem with wifi. it's weak in ubuntu
[18:11] <sruli> TJ-: dont really understand, however if what you are describing is the case, do u have any suggestions to overcome that?
[18:11] <noise__> can anyone help me?
[18:11] <noise__> it'a really annoyin
[18:11] <TJ-> goddard: that will show the *entire* changelog; to see just the most recent few changes "less /usr/share/doc/<package>/changelog.gz"
[18:12] <Pici> goddard: also, I like to have apt-listchanges installed. It can prompt/email you with changes as you go to install package updates.
[18:12] <noise__> anyone?
[18:13] <TJ-> sruli: look at the end of that page I linked. there's some custom chains with names like "libvirt-in", "libvirt-out" according to that, which you don't have. So either you're wiping them out when you flush the tables with your commands, or they no longer create those.
[18:13] <noise__> !wifi
[18:13] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine1.6/+bug/1376587
[18:14] <noise__> Helllooo
[18:15] <TJ-> sruli: I think the very last paragraph applies to you: "...all our work gets blown away."
[18:16] <django_> hey all im trying to add Java8 to eclipse but its only showing java-7 in the installed JREs
[18:16] <sruli> TJ-: they had to put it at the end? lol, would have taken me 3 hours to read and unnderstand that page until i would have gotten to that paragraph
[18:16] <kian> I have ZNC running under its own account to run it on boot I have to login as user "znc" and type "znc"
[18:16] <kian> How can I start this on boot?
[18:16] <django_> i do java -version and i get "1.8.0_66"
[18:16] <sruli> TJ-: how do i send  a SIGHUP to libvirt?
[18:16] <TJ-> sruli: the art of 'scan' reading :)
[18:17] <kian> django_: did you check the eclipse preferences?
[18:17] <django_> kian, im here
[18:17] <Seveas> kian: make it an @reboot cronjob in the znc user's crontab :)
[18:17] <kian> Seveas: never used cron jobs
[18:17] <kian> Seveas: query me if you're not busy?
[18:17] <sruli> TJ-: can only be done if you understand it ;-)
[18:17] <TJ-> sruli: "sudo pkill -HUP libvirtd'
[18:17] <django_> how can I find the location of java8
[18:17] <Seveas> kian: sudo crontab -e -u znc
[18:18] <kian> Seveas: run that in my user account?
[18:18] <TJ-> sruli: that's the point though; you learn this stuff by trying to do it, and failing. If you never failed you'd never know about it.
[18:18] <kian> or under znc?
[18:18] <Seveas> then add this on one line and save: @reboot znc
[18:18] <Seveas> kian: yup
[18:18] <sruli> TJ-: before i do that, i must say that i never actually restarted iptables, i actually run the script adding the rules before starting libvirt service
[18:18] <Seveas> sruli: iptables isn't a thing that can be "restarted"
[18:18] <TJ-> sruli: libvirtd doesn't start automatically?
[18:19] <kian> Seveas: so the command opens the crontab for the user?
[18:19] <kian> like sudo crontab -e -u znc
[18:19] <kian> if i changed znc to kian
[18:19] <kian> it would be for user kian
[18:19] <Seveas> kian: ayup.
[18:19] <kian> Seveas: awesome!
[18:19] <kian> Seveas: going to disconnect, lets see how it works
[18:19] <TJ-> Seveas: according to the RH/libvirt guys they have a service to flush/reload the rules
[18:19] <kian> server reboot time
[18:19] <sruli> TJ-: no, i disabled auto start as i run many scripts on each boot before starting libvirt
[18:19] <Seveas> TJ-: that does exactly that: flush and reload. Nothing gets "restarted"
[18:19] <TJ-> sruli: OK, so maybe that article is out-of-date and it doesn't use those chain names any longer
[18:20] <sruli> TJ-: is sudo pkill -HUP libvirtd'
[18:20] <TJ-> Seveas: right, you're being pedantic though. sruli is referring to explicit instructions for the libvirt network layer by the libvirt developers.
[18:20] <sruli> TJ-: is 'sudo pkill -HUP libvirtd' supposed to recreate the rules? i can try it
[18:21] <TJ-> sruli: that's what they claim :)
[18:21] <django_> found it :)
[18:21] <TJ-> sruli: I've found over several years that often the documentation is wildy out-of-date, or plain missing though, so we may be being misled
[18:21] <Seveas> TJ-: apologies for being pedantic. This is one of my pet peeves :)
[18:22] <sruli> TJ-: how can we check the results? will iptables-save show different output?
[18:22] <TJ-> Seveas: oh I agree, but please lets not confuse the poor sruli any more.. his underlying issue has been going on for a few weeks now !
[18:22] <Seveas> :)
[18:22] <TJ-> Seveas: this is what they write: "... The biggest problem is that if the admin does service iptables restart all our work gets blown away.  ..."
[18:23] <TJ-> sruli: Yes, it would show new rules, IF that SIGHUP actually caused libvirtd to change things as that document claims
[18:23] <Seveas> TJ-: yeah. If this is a redhat-like system, /etc/init.d/iptables save would prevent that. There's no Ubuntu equivalent.
[18:23] <Janko> So I'm following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux#Debootstrap - However I get permission denied: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14583754/
[18:23] <TJ-> Seveas: sruli has his own equivalent
[18:24] <Seveas> Mine is: iptables-save > /etc/iptables.conf
[18:24] <Seveas> and same for s/ip/ip6/g
[18:25] <sruli> TJ-: no change at all, how do i proceed to get this DROP working?
[18:25] <Seveas> I completely missed the start of the discussion though. Any chance of a quick summary of the problem?
[18:25] <TJ-> Janko: /mnt/ubuntu doesn't have permissions for the user to do that
[18:25] <Janko> TJ-: I'm root
[18:25] <Janko> TJ-: I was running that command as root, anyway
[18:27] <TJ-> Seveas: 14.04 bare-metal host + libvirt/qemu based VMs, NATed. VMs are to be prevented from having 'Internet' access (i.e. off-host) when an openvpn link (tun0) isn't available. Despite considerable messing with both the filter and nat chains, we've not managed to block it. Currently focused on nat/POSTROUTING to prevent the MASQUERADE target when the VPN isn't alive
[18:27] <TJ-> Janko: maybe the mount options for the /mnt/ubuntu are preventing it?
[18:28] <Janko> /dev/mapper/vg-ubuntu on /mnt/ubuntu type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
[18:28] <TJ-> Seveas: IPv6 disabled. current IPv4 rules: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14583427/
[18:28] <TJ-> Janko: no obvious reason there then. can you "touch /mnt/ubuntu/test" successfully?
[18:28] <Seveas> TJ-: sruli: libvirtd tends to insert its own iptables rules in unfortunate places. Did you disable those in the config?
[18:29] <Seveas> they even mess with the mangle chain...
[18:30] <TJ-> Seveas: that subject is what we were just addressing. According to the document libvirt adds its own custom chains, but we see no sign of them, although the rules we see match what the document clains are created by libvirt for type=nat. http://libvirt.org/firewall.html
[18:30] <Janko> TJ-: yes, touch works
[18:30] <Seveas> it doesn't add its own chains, just rules at the start of filter.OUTPUT and nat.POSTROUTING (and mangle.POSTROUTING, but that can be ignored for now)
[18:31] <TJ-> Seveas: right, that's what we've just shown, which shows the document is out-of-date in some respects
[18:31] <Seveas> this can be disabled, but I forgot how. Disabling them would be a good start toward better rules.
[18:31] <TJ-> Janko: is there a /mnt/ubuntu/proc/ directory ? if not, that'd be why mount fails
[18:32] <Janko> TJ-: hp linux # mount -t proc proc /mnt/ubuntu/proc
[18:32] <Janko> hp linux # umount /mnt/ubuntu/proc
[18:32] <Janko> hp linux # chroot /mnt/ubuntu mount -t proc proc /proc
[18:32] <Janko> mount: permission denied
[18:32] <TJ-> Seveas: I'm getting more inclined towards using policy-based routing for the VM (drop the NAT, switch libvirt to routed) and then drop/add the default route on the VM routing table based on VPN state
[18:32] <Seveas> TJ-: the rules you pasted will explicitely let VM traffic through before stopping all other traffic.
[18:33] <TJ-> Seveas: those are how the PC is without us changing anything
[18:33] <Janko> Somehow, mount outside chroot works, but not inside chroot? But I've got no idea why?
[18:33] <TJ-> Seveas: the task is to prevent the VM sub-net when tun0 doesn't exist
[18:34] <Seveas> TJ-: I'd do this: sudo iptables t nat -I POSTROUTING 1 -j DROP
[18:34] <TJ-> Janko: does the debootstrap.log exist?
[18:34] <Seveas> and when tun0 comes op, remove that rule
[18:34] <TJ-> Seveas: 'nat' table doesn't support DROP
[18:35] <Seveas> hm?
[18:35] <Seveas> hm.
[18:35] <baaaas> I'm trying to change the PS1 of all users on a system to a standard one. I have the PS1 in bash.bashrc but it doesn't work because users have their ps1 set in ~./bashrc. Is there anything I can do to change this? I'm trying to deploy this via ansible, so the simpler the solution, the better.
[18:35] <Seveas> then sudo iptables -I FORWARD 1 -j DROP
[18:35] <Janko> TJ-: yes. It's one line and says mount: permission denied
[18:36] <Seveas> but you'll want to do that after libvirtd added its rules, 'cause it will add them right at the start.
[18:36] <TJ-> Seveas: right, we tried that or a variation last week. sruli ^^^^ try
[18:36] <Seveas> That's why I don't let libvirt do its own rules. I'll try to find how to disable it.
[18:36] <TJ-> Janko: not helpful :)
[18:37] <TJ-> Janko: what is the host OS/release running the debootstrap command?
[18:37] <sruli> TJ-: u mean i should try "sudo iptables t nat -I POSTROUTING 1 -j DROP" ?
[18:37] <Janko> TJ-: Gentoo
[18:37] <TJ-> sruli: no, this one
[18:37] <TJ-> sruli: 18:35:26           Seveas | then sudo iptables -I FORWARD 1 -j DROP
[18:37] <bramgn> baaaas: just out of curiosity, why do you want to disallow your users having a custom prompt?
[18:38] <TJ-> Janko: It seems like Gentoo is doing something differently to Debian/Ubuntu with debootstrap
[18:38] <TJ-> Janko: check what ownership/permissions have been given to the newly created files under /mnt/ubuntu/
[18:40] <Janko> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14584063/
[18:42] <baaaas> bramgn: it's a server and we want to set the PS1 to include {DEV} or {PROD} or {TEST} in it.
[18:42] <baaaas> So those SSH
[18:42] <baaaas> 'ed into it are aware of what they're touching
[18:46] <TJ-> Janko: any SELinux etc. policies operating there?
[18:47] <Janko> TJ-: No SELinux
[18:47] <nores> good evening guys
[18:47] <Janko> TJ-: oh. found the problem
[18:47] <nores> i have a machine with win 10 on
[18:47] <TJ-> Janko: yay :)
[18:47] <Janko> [ 2242.686935] grsec: use of CAP_SYS_ADMIN in chroot denied for /mnt/ubuntu/bin/mount[mount:12389] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0, parent /bin/zsh[zsh:5701] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/
[18:48] <nores> i'd like to install ubuntu in dual boot
[18:48] <nores> can i follow the dear old steps ( i mean burn a dvd image and follow the installation )
[18:48] <nores> ?
[18:49] <TJ-> Janko: that'd do it, that's what I was thinking of
[18:49] <bramgn> baaaas: ah ok
[18:49] <nicomachus> nores: yep.
[18:50] <sruli> TJ-: that did not change anything, is the previous rule maybe creating a problem "iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING 3 -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 ! -d <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -j RETURN" ?
[18:50] <nicomachus> nores: the installation process will ask if you want to install alongisde an existing partition, just select that option and follow the prompts.
[18:50] <nores> so no there might be no problems with the UEFI?
[18:50] <TJ-> sruli: I can't see how it would, but as that rule seems not to have had any effect either, it would be a good idea to drop those else the tables will get confusing
[18:51] <Cyber_Akuma> How can I check if my version of Ubuntu is 32 or 64bit?
[18:51] <bramgn> Cyber_Akuma: uname -i
[18:52] <sruli> TJ-: does restarting libvirt service and VMs flush my rules? becuase after adding the "iptables -I FORWARD 1 -j DROP" my VMs did not have any connectivity (regardless of VPN) so i restarted the service and VMs, now it has connectivity regardless of VPN
[18:52] <Cyber_Akuma> thanks
[18:52] <Janko> TJ-: thanks for the help. Now I've got to either mount the filesystems manually and get debootstrap to continue... or temporary boot a non-grsec kernel
[18:52] <nores> this procedure is ok even though i've got an UEFI machine?
[18:53] <TJ-> sruli: If the VMs are using NAT, as the VM config + the iptables rules themselves seem to indicate, then the places where the packets can be intercepted are, in order, nat/OUTPUT, filter/OUTPUT, and nat/POSTROUTING
[18:55] <baaaas> So does anyone have any ideas?
[18:56] <Jordan_U> nores: Yup.
[18:56] <TJ-> baaaas: be sneaky maybe? create an alias for PS1 to some other variable name?
[18:56] <sruli> TJ-: any more ideas how i can resolve this?
[18:56] <baaaas> TJ-: what do you mean exactly?
[18:56] <nores> thank you
[18:57] <TJ-> sruli: the loss of connectivity is what you want! You need to refine that rule to only apply to traffic destined to the Internet (in fact, you'd need to set the rule to match everything *except* traffic to the host's subnet)
[18:59] <Jordan_U> baaaas: It's already somewhat common to add something relating to $PS1 to $PROMPT_COMMAND so it wouldn't be too ugly to do that here, though they could still have their own setting of $PROMPT_COMMAND in their own .bashrc.
[18:59] <sruli> TJ-: ok, so tested it again and yes it drops the traffic, bad news is a libvirt restart blows it away,
[18:59] <sruli> TJ-: what do i try next to refine it?
[18:59] <TJ-> baaaas: something like "alias PS1='USER_PS1' (in /etc/bash/bashrc) so that any subsequent commands of the form "PS1=..." will actually alias to "USER_PS1=" and therefore not affect the real PS1
[19:01] <baaaas> That makes alot of sense
[19:01] <baaaas> Thank you for that, I'll try it. TJ-
[19:01] <Jordan_U> TJ-: I think aliass only work for commands, not variable assignments, and my quick test shows that doesn't work (unless I missed something).
[19:01] <TJ-> sruli: it needs to only apply to traffic originating on the virbr+ interfaces, and only to traffic not destined for the localhost. At a rough guess "iptables -I FORWARD 1 -i virbr+ ! -o lo -j DROP" - that should keep host<>VM-guest connections active
[19:02] <Jordan_U> TJ-: alias PS1='USER_PS1'; PS1="D'oh ";
[19:04] <TJ-> Jordan_U: I saw this done recently but can't remember the precise syntax I saw. I recall it because I thought "oooo that's sneaky"
[19:05] <Jordan_U> baaaas: You would then create a function like "reset_ps1() { PS1='Foo Bar Baz'; }" and then do "PROMPT_COMMAND='reset_ps1'".
[19:06] <sruli> TJ-: how do i delete that last iptable rule?
[19:09] <kky> hello, i have restarted ubuntu and since then i cant boot, i am stuck at a new nvidia splashscreen, can u please help me ?
[19:09] <TJ-> sruli: "iptables -D FORWARD 1" if it is rule number 1 in the list
[19:11] <Jordan_U> baaaas: In fact, what you should really do is ask in #bash.
[19:11] <sruli> TJ-: i had 3 DROP's in the FORWARD list, deleted all
[19:12] <taptoula> Hi all :) I'm on Ubuntu server 14.04 and I have a strange problem with an init.d script : when I run it it works but gives me a "start: Job failed to start" when I run it with "service myscript start". Never seen this... Can anyone please give me some tips to fond the problem ?
[19:12] <taptoula> find*
[19:13] <sruli> TJ-: "iptables -I FORWARD 1 -i virbr+ ! -o lo -j DROP" has the same effect, drops connectivity regardless of VPN
[19:13] <sruli> to VMs
[19:14] <TJ-> sruli: correct. The point is you add/remove that rule under control of the VPN starting/stopping
[19:14] <Jordan_U> taptoula: Please pastebiin your upstart config for that service.
[19:14] <TJ-> sruli: so it is there at startup, it gets removed when the openvpn tunnel is ready, and removed when openvpn tunnel is closed
[19:15] <sruli> TJ-: how do i do that?
[19:16] <TJ-> sruli: depends on how you're activating the VPN. if it is via /etc/network/interfaces you can use post-up/pre-down commands
[19:16] <psyferre> Hey folks.  I've got a nas server that is suddenly slow as hell.  cpu at 0%, io wait at 35% according to top.  I foolishly started a kernel image update several hours ago.  It's at "Running depmod".  How bad will I be boned if I go ahead and reboot the server now to check raid health?
[19:16] <kky> hello, i have restarted ubuntu and since then i cant boot, i am stuck at a new nvidia splashscreen, can u please help me ?
[19:16] <TJ-> psyferre: you could kill the depmod process; that can be redone later
[19:17] <sruli> TJ-: i understand, how would i tell the ifup to remove the rule?
[19:17] <sruli> to add it is easy enough, to delete is what i am stuck at
[19:18] <taptoula> Jordan_U: sure here it is : http://pastebin.com/hWSbmcRK
[19:18] <Jordan_U> kky: Can you get to a tty by pressing ctrl + alt + F1?
[19:18] <kky> Jordan_U: no, doesn't work. however i get a purple (ubuntu) screen shortly before i get this nvidia splashscreen
[19:19] <TJ-> sruli: ifupdown executes the commands in those stanzas. See "man interfaces" for the post-up and pre-down options. I'd suggest creating a script that takes an argument of "enable" or "disable" and applies/removes the rule as appropriate. Then, in ../interfaces you can do " post-up /path/to/script enable" and " pre-down /path/to/script disable"
[19:19] <psyferre> TJ-: Awesome.  So it's not far enough in that I'm likely to reboot to a non-working kernel?
[19:19] <Jordan_U> taptoula: Does that mean that you don't have any upstart .config file for this service?
[19:20] <Jordan_U> s/.config/.conf/
[19:20] <sruli> TJ-: to remove a rule from iptables i have to find the number and delete, how would i get a script to do that?
[19:20] <TJ-> psyferre: depmod is creating the mapping files under /lib/modules/<new-version>/ so you'll need to rerun 'depmod' to finalise those, or avoid booting to that <new-version> kernel until you've resolved this
[19:20] <jophish> Hi
[19:21] <taptoula> Jordan_U: yes and for information I use the same script to run jackett (another mono application) and it works fine. Really blows my mind
[19:21] <psyferre> TJ-: So if it fails I can just select an older kernel from the boot menu, and then rerun depmod.  Right?
[19:21] <TJ-> sruli: no, you can use "iptables -D FORWARD .... rule specification...." - you can delete by index number, or by an *exact* match of the parameters instead (without an index number). As long as you *insert* the rule at the head of the chain (position 1) so no other rule beats it
[19:21] <jophish> Whenver I disconnect my external monitors with the laptop lid closed I have to reboot my laptop (REISUB) to get the internal screen working again
[19:23] <TJ-> psyferre: yes. if depmod during a kernel package install has failed, its unlikely that "update-grub" has been been run yet so in theory the /boot/grub/grub.cfg will not yet contain an entry to boot the new kernel (doubly-so since "update-initramfs -c ..." may not have run yet either
[19:23] <psyferre> TJ-: perfect.  Thanks man, you just saved Christmas.  I appreciate it.
[19:24] <kky> Jordan_U: I think the keyboard is not yet working at this point (though it is powered on, i see a light on it)
[19:24] <sruli> TJ-: got it, thanks, let me edit my ifdown script and test
[19:26] <KCmetro> I'm on the most recent stable release of ubuntu, using pidgin (libpurple 2.10.9), and have been able to use google chat fine until today, unable to validate, can't get it to log back in. Any idea why?
[19:27] <KCmetro> I ran apt-get update
[19:27] <KCmetro> that temporarily fixed it. but it's happening again.
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> KCmetro  what's the ouput of   cat /etc/issue
[19:29] <taptoula> Jordan_U: Found the problem ! You were right : I had a bogus upstart conf for this service
[19:29] <taptoula> Jordan_U: Thanks :)
[19:29] <sruli> TJ-: if both drop connectivity to the VMs "iptables -I FORWARD 1 -j DROP" and  "iptables -I FORWARD 1 -i virbr+ ! -o lo -j DROP" is there any difference which i use?
[19:30] <KCmetro> Ubuntu 15.04 \n \l
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> KCmetro  15.04 will soon be !eol, next week or so
[19:31] <KCmetro> good to know. how about getting google's chat to work again in pidgin? i'll ask over in pidgin chat, maybe someone's there.
[19:31] <Jordan_U> taptoula: You're welcome :)
[19:32] <kky> Jordan_U: so what can I do ?
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> KCmetro  in your current irc client, type /j #google
[19:32] <KCmetro> ah yes i'll check there too thanks
[19:33] <taptoula> Jordan_U: any way to have tab completion with service on upstart defined jobs ?
[19:33] <Jordan_U> taptoula: I don't know.
[19:37] <rww> OerHeks: I don't understand your -ops question?
[19:38] <OerHeks> rww, i noticed a diff between the ban and join/parting inet adress
[19:38] <rww> OerHeks: one's hostname, one is IP address
[19:39] <rww> some ISPs do the hostname numbers in reverse order for some reason
[19:39] <OerHeks> ah, that ip is behind that inet adress, oke
[19:39] <rww> *nod*
[19:39] <TJ-> sruli: how about this? https://iam.tj/projects/misc/iptables-libvirt.sh
[19:39] <OerHeks> Thnks for clarification, rww
[19:40] <rww> no problem :)
[19:40] <OerHeks> rww, dash instead of . between numbers, get it now.
[19:41] <TJ-> sruli: that script is written in such a way that if you call it at start-up *without* an argument it will install the rule immediately
[19:41] <sui> hi
[19:44] <peaceful> Ubuntu team please help me fix this problem:
[19:44] <peaceful> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1529381
[19:47] <james1138> Can I post a tech question?
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> peaceful  using 14.04.3 ? if yes, try installing HWE
[19:47] <sruli> TJ-: this is my script paste.ubuntu.com/14584878
[19:48] <peaceful> MonkeyDust, wht is HWE?
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> !hwe
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> peaceful  it's what i have, works like a charm on my old acer
[19:49] <SchrodingersScat> !support | james1138, you're welcome to ask any ubuntu related questions.  Otherwise you may want to try the !alis bot to see if there's a channel specific to what you're trying to accomplish.
[19:49] <daep911> hello ubuntu user,
[19:49] <sruli> TJ-: is this script good enough for instant?
[19:50] <daep911> exist any application gui that can configure proxy?
[19:50] <TJ-> sruli: no 'sudo' in these scripts; they are executed as root
[19:51] <sruli> TJ-: apart from that is it good?
[19:51] <TJ-> sruli: that should work, but you'll also need to install the rule at boot-time. I made it all happen on the single script to keep it all together
[19:55] <sruli> TJ-: i added it to my startup script, f both drop connectivity to the VMs "iptables -I FORWARD 1 -j DROP" and  "iptables -I FORWARD 1 -i virbr+ ! -o lo -j DROP" is there any difference which i use?
[19:56] <intore> Hello everyone, I have some difficulty mounting an external HD formatted in HFS + with write permissions. After running the command sudo fsck.hfsplus -f / dev / sdc2; appears the error "Invalid sibling link (4, 13) ** Volume check failed." The strange thing is that an hour ago the command had gone well. can you help me?
[19:57] <TJ-> sruli: yes; the latter is specific to the virtual machines.
[19:57] <TJ-> sruli: I've amended my version to use the ID and STATUS/CMD: https://iam.tj/projects/misc/iptables-vpn.sh
[19:58] <TJ-> sruli: again, calling the script without any arguments will install the rule
[19:58] <sruli> TJ-: i want my Host also to loose connectivity
[19:59] <james1138> I am using IBM thinkpad T43 and Ubuntu 14.04 (Zorin OS 9 lite). I updated the kernal to 4.4 and the laptop sees 3 gig in the BIOS setup but the software only sees 2 gig. Any ideas?
[19:59] <xintox_> logrotate.d doesn't seem to be running on ubuntu
[20:00] <xintox_> how do i start it?
[20:00] <sruli> TJ-: how does OP call the rule?
[20:00] <TJ-> sruli: That would need a rule in the filter/OUTPUT chain to block the localhost
[20:01] <TJ-> sruli: OP is short for "OPeration" and is either "-I" (insert) or "-D" (delete)
[20:01] <spaghettiwhirl> Hello, can i get some help here? I need to find out usb flash drive's controller model, and cannot find any suitable packages for linux (lsusb/hdparm doesn't show the controller model anyway), the only software i was able to find is windows-only (Flash Drive Information Extractor), is there anything like it?
[20:01] <rww> james1138: #ubuntu only supports actual Ubuntu, not derivatives thereof. please use whatever support channel/forum Zorin provides for Zorin issues
[20:01] <rww> s/derivatives/unofficial derivatives/, i guess
[20:01] <TJ-> sruli: with my method you could add multiple RULEx="..." and call iptables ${OP} ${RULEx} for each
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> spaghettiwhirl  try   lshw -html > hardware.html ... then op the html file
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> open*
[20:02] <TJ-> derivative != flavour|port ?
[20:02] <rww> no idea, the language around it's changed since the last time i cared i think
[20:03] <teward> TJ-: AIUI, Flavors don't diverge from the Ubuntu repos, and are officially recognized; derivatives 'clone' things and then change them (caseinpoint Mint and others which do that)
[20:03] <teward> but that's also not the point :P
[20:04] <rww> yeah, I just stick "unofficial" in there and call it a day :P
[20:04] <sruli> TJ-: how would i add paste.ubuntu.com/14585014 to that script?
[20:04] <rww> makes it a lot more obvious
[20:15] <OneM_Industries> Hey, I am having an issue SSHing into other machines from Ubuntu 14.04. No matter what machine I try to SSH into, it returns this:ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: No route to host Any ideas?
[20:16] <thebwt> are you trying to bounce through a server @ <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:16] <nicomachus> OneM_Industries: is that a machine on your network?
[20:16] <OneM_Industries> No, I am trying to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>.
[20:16] <sruli> TJ-: how would i add paste.ubuntu.com/14585014 to that script?
[20:16] <nicomachus> OneM_Industries: or is it somewhere else?
[20:16] <OneM_Industries> Yes, it is.
[20:17] <OneM_Industries> It is connected to a switch, which is connected to our router.
[20:17] <nicomachus> OneM_Industries: did you use the proper format<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:17] <OneM_Industries> Yes.
[20:18] <OneM_Industries> ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:18] <nicomachus> is the port open?
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> OneM_Industries  con you ping the destionation?
[20:18] <OneM_Industries> Hold on.
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> typos*
[20:18] <OneM_Industries> Dang, I can't ping it, but it is up...
[20:19] <OneM_Industries> And the result is From <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable, but <IP_ADDRESS> is my IP...
[20:19] <nicomachus> positive?
[20:19] <OneM_Industries> Positive.
[20:20] <OneM_Industries> I am the only static IP on the network, and I have confirmed that the other machine has the correct IP as well.
[20:20] <OneM_Industries> Ok, restarted the router.
[20:21] <nicomachus> is <IP_ADDRESS> your current machine, or the one you're trying to reach?
[20:21] <OneM_Industries> My machine, hold on, I forced a DCHP update on all machines.
[20:21] <nicomachus> OneM_Industries: the IP you use in the "ssh host:ip" should be the destination IP... the machine you're trying to reach.
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> OneM_Industries  nothing disturbing shows with   ip route
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> ?
[20:22] <OneM_Industries> Ok, looks like the router was the issue, again.
[20:22] <OneM_Industries> Forcing a DCHP update on all machines fixed it.
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> can you ssh now?
[20:23] <OneM_Industries> Yes, I can.
[20:23] <intore> Hello everyone, I have some difficulty mounting an external HD formatted in HFS + with write permissions. After running the command sudo fsck.hfsplus -f / dev / sdc2; appears the error "Invalid sibling link (4, 13) ** Volume check failed." The strange thing is that an hour ago the command had gone well. can you help me?
[20:23] <OneM_Industries> Looks like the router lost it's routing table, again.
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> OneM_Industries  note the solution in a text file or so, for future reference
[20:24] <OneM_Industries> I will.
[20:24] <OneM_Industries> Or better yet, I will set up a better router.
[20:24] <husky_> sss
[20:32] <TJ-> sruli: anything specific to the up/down operations would be in the case statement's clauses
[20:33] <sruli> TJ-: where is the case statement clause?
[20:38] <RNeville> if I buy very cheap android smartphone will ubuntu recognize it so I can move files to it through usb
[20:38] <xangua> RNeville: it should
[20:38] <TJ-> sruli: "case xxx in ..."
[20:38] <xangua> Ubuntu 14.04 and up of course
[20:38] <RNeville> thx xangua
[20:39] <RNeville> yes, I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 this phone is running android 4.4 kitkat
[20:39] <nicomachus> RNeville: should be fine.
[20:39] <eelstrebor> quite a few wikis are out of date
[20:39] <RNeville> k nicomachus
[20:40] <TJ-> RNeville: it can depend on whether the device shares its file-system via MTP or some other method. Some MTP devices can be problematic as can some Ubuntu releases/tools
[20:41] <x-r00tnoir> hi
[20:41] <hal14450> RNeville, i find that using airdroid on the phone works pretty well
[20:41] <x-r00tnoir> hi
[20:41] <x-r00tnoir> how are you
[20:41] <hal14450> that's a lazy solution of course
[20:42] <x-r00tnoir> ^__________________________^
[20:42] <nicomachus> x-r00tnoir: hi, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:44] <Malgorath> hey is there a way to reset your install of ubuntu to the way it is just after install?
[20:44] <sruli> TJ-: thanks, fianl question on the subject, when i originally got my iptables for this the instructions were to enable net.ipv4.ip_forward in sysctl.config now that i dont need those iptables rules do i still need to enable ip_forward?
[20:45] <nicomachus> Malgorath: why not just reinstall?
[20:45] <Malgorath> nicomachus, was hoping this would be faster
[20:45] <nicomachus> not likely. why do you need to restore it to that state?
[20:45] <TJ-> sruli: forwarding is required to route packets
[20:46] <tgm4883> Malgorath: what exactly do you want to restore, installed packages or something else?
[20:46] <sruli> TJ-: i tired with it enabled and disabled and did not see a difference
[20:46] <Malgorath> Apache wont let me do clean URLs and I think I messed something up, was hoping a fresh setup might help figure out what I did wrong
[20:47] <sruli> TJ-: ur paypal still<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:47] <tgm4883> Malgorath: apache is running on this box?
[20:47] <tgm4883> Malgorath: because you should just be able to remove and purge apache configs
[20:47] <Malgorath> tgm4883, yes. Wondering if I should just go with nginx
[20:48] <dwbear> anyone use /etc/security/limits.conf with AD groups?
[20:48] <Malgorath> tgm4883, apt-get remove apache2 && apt-get purge apache2 ?
[20:50] <TJ-> sruli: there are several related forwarding settings, but sys.net.ipv4.ip_forwarding is the master control. There are others under sys.net.ipv4.conf.*.forwarding too
[20:50] <TJ-> sruli: nothings changed with my addresses
[20:51] <sruli> TJ-: i am refering to just net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
[20:52] <TJ-> sruli: If you set sys.net.ip_forwarding 0 that should disable IPv4 forwarding in the kernel, but that won't affect nat/localhost. It'll only affect packets arriving on an *external* interface and being forwarded out on another *external* interface
[20:52] <TJ-> sruli: as in -> eth0 -> kernel -> wlan0
[20:52] <sruli> TJ-: so i dont need it enabled, right?
[20:52] <dwbear> I'm trying to use a limits.conf to set limits for groups of users, the user groups come from active directory. We have pam set to authenticate to our AD, but it doesn't seem that ulimits get set for domain users.  any thoughts?
[20:53] <TJ-> sruli: You would need it if you ever switch the VM networking mode from NAT to routing/bridging
[20:53] <TJ-> dwbear: are you using pam_limits ?
[20:55] <sruli> TJ-: thanks, u should have a received a email now, can i ask u something in private chat?
[20:56] <TJ-> sruli: this is the documentation for those sysctl entities http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-xenial.git/tree/Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.txt
[20:58] <dwbear> TJ: yes, I assume /etc/security/limit.conf is what pam reads.
[20:58] <dwbear> no?
[20:58] <DirtyCajun> why cant i pipline ls into file
[20:58] <DirtyCajun> for example ls /usr/bin | file
[20:58] <DirtyCajun> wereas if i name file name1 name2 etc it works
[20:58] <k1l> DirtyCajun: for pipe you need a program. use >
[20:59] <DirtyCajun> so ls /usr/bin | > file
[20:59] <DirtyCajun> ?
[20:59] <TJ-> dwbear: "man pam_limits"
[20:59] <dwbear> TJ reading
[20:59] <k1l> no. ls > filename
[21:00] <DirtyCajun> im sorry i meant file the utility
[21:00] <Carter1> does anyone here know how to setup phpmail for the use of wordpress? thanks
[21:00] <TJ-> DirtyCajun: you mean run 'file' against a list of files? You'd be better off using 'find' rather than 'ls' to generate the list
[21:01] <dwbear> tj: session required pam_limits.so -- in my common-session file
[21:01] <k1l> DirtyCajun: what is the real target here? that sounds like a workaround around 3 corners
[21:01] <TJ-> dwbear: as in "find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -exec file {} \;"
[21:01] <TJ-> dwbear: enable more debugging maybe, and check the /var/log/auth.log for clues?
[21:02] <TJ-> DirtyCajun: : enable more debugging maybe, and check the /var/log/auth.log for clues?
[21:02] <dwbear> TJ I know limits work if I specify a single user, its when i attempt to specify a user group that things don't seem to work
[21:02] <TJ-> dwbear: hmmm!
[21:03] <dwbear> TJ: I am using AD as my authentication source,
[21:03] <dwbear> attempts to use groups from AD seem to be a problem
[21:03] <DirtyCajun> its for class. and there is a simple answer but i want to know how to automate the whole process. the question is "Experiment by calling the file utility with the names of files in /usr/bin. How
[21:03] <DirtyCajun> many different types of files are there?" I want to pipe ls into file... then pipe that into sort and then pipe that into uniq
[21:03] <Scombr0> Bye all :)
[21:03] <dwbear> I was wondering if in the limits.conf file, if quoting can be used around group names
[21:04] <dwbear> some idiot at microsoft allowed group names to contain spaces
[21:04] <TJ-> dwbear: you're specifying the limits 'domain' as @group ? (see "man 5 limits.conf")
[21:05] <TJ-> dwbear: oh, you have spaces?
[21:05] <dwbear> Here's the line I used:
[21:05] <dwbear> # -- fix fork bomb issue --
[21:05] <dwbear> @"Domain Users"        soft    nproc           20
[21:05] <dwbear> @"Domain Users"        hard    nproc           30
[21:05] <dwbear> I also tried @Domain\ Users but that didn't seem to go anywhere
[21:07] <dwbear> TJ: do you know if spaces cause problems for the limits.conf parser?
[21:09] <TJ-> dwbear: from pam's modules/pam_limits/pam_limits.c::parse_config_file() the key line is "i = sscanf(line,"%s%s%s%s", domain, ltype, item, value);"
[21:10] <dwbear> TJ, so sscanf %s%s%s% will split on the space? It was in the last century that I looked at C code... ;-)
[21:12] <DirtyCajun> i can make all the opther utilities pipe to each other. sort uniq mv etc but not file
[21:12] <DirtyCajun> is file "unpipable"?
[21:12] <TJ-> dwbear: It's got me thinking and I use it. See "man 3 sscanf" :)
[21:13] <TJ-> DirtyCajun: you can pipe if you tell to read stdin, but then you have no filename: 'file -'
[21:14] <TJ-> dwbear: aha: "s      Matches a sequence of non-white-space characters;"
[21:15] <TJ-> dwbear: but as its sscanf() can you use an escape? as in @this\ group soft ...
[21:15] <Jordan_U> DirtyCajun: The distinction is mostly between "streams" of text and lists of files. Most commands that work only on streams of arbitrary text, like greb,sed,awk,etc accept that such text be given via a pipe. However most commands that work on files, or lists of files, expect those file names to be listed in the commands arguments, not via stdin. This is because (among other things) it's difficult to relia
[21:15] <Jordan_U> bly handle a single stream of text with multiple file names, whereas command arguments are explicitly separated in a secure reliable manner.
[21:15] <dwbear> TJ: yeah, I was just looking at that,  "This directive matches any amount white space"...
[21:15] <dwbear> ug
[21:15] <dwbear> oka
[21:15] <dwbear> okay
[21:15] <dwbear> so, not AD groups with spaces in names
[21:16] <dwbear> I surrender
[21:16] <TJ-> dwbear: but as its sscanf() can you use an escape? as in @this\ group soft ...
[21:17] <Jordan_U> DirtyCajun: I highly recommend http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide as a guide for learning to use bash.
[21:17] <dwbear> I'm thinking it may just be easier to create and AD group with a coherent name, and then place 'domain users' in that group
[21:17] <TJ-> dwbear: Yes, fix Windows :)
[21:18] <dwbear> TJ: seems to me an easier fix..
[21:18] <TJ-> dwbear: I agree, but it'd be interesting to know if an escaped space would do it
[21:18] <DirtyCajun> ive gotten it to work starting with file as opposed to piping to file
[21:18] <dwbear> TJ: I did try Domain\ Users ...
[21:19] <DirtyCajun> file /usr/bin/* | sort | uniq | wc
[21:19] <dwbear> But it was quoted
[21:19] <TJ-> dwbear: well the quotes would be read literally, and unless I'm mistaken so would the escaped content of the domain string, so go with the Windows fix
[21:20] <Jordan_U> DirtyCajun: Why are you sorting and using uniq? The files should already be sorted and uniq.
[21:20] <dwbear> TJ: makes sense.. Thanks for the help
[21:20] <DirtyCajun> i was trying something without thinking. i wanted to get a single number for the total TYPES of files. but since each file is in the line... it assumes they are ALL unique
[21:21] <DirtyCajun> so it was a failure
[21:21] <bekks> DirtyCajun: How do you determine the "type" of a file?
[21:22] <luketheduke1> bekks: there is a command called 'file' that lets you do that
[21:22] <DirtyCajun> yes.
[21:22] <Jordan_U> DirtyCajun: I'm guessing not, but do you know about regular expressions?
[21:26] <ubuntu249> Hello, is that possible to disable physical "power button" on lock screen?
[21:26] <ubuntu249> When i return to computer, if i press power button to wake my laptop up
[21:26] <ubuntu249> its shutting down
[21:26] <ubuntu249> is there any way to change this behaviour?
[21:26] <bekks> That button is hardwired, you cannot change its behaviour.
[21:26] <julian-delphiki> ubuntu249: when you open it back up it should just come back...
[21:26] <bekks> Try pressing another key instead.
[21:27] <Guest72791> i need help i am getting no volumn!
[21:27] <TJ-> ubuntu249: usually the power button has 2 functions. "soft off" and "hard off" - the hard is when you hold it down continuously for about 4 seconds
[21:27] <ubuntu249> i am pressing down for 1 sec or less. old habits from windows
[21:27] <ubuntu249> i am trying to get used to it
[21:28] <Jordan_U> bekks: Of course you can change how the OS reacts to the power button being pressed, the OS needs to cleanly shut down when the user presses the button and can react however it wants (unless you hold the button, which ubuntu249 is not doing).
[21:28] <HowardwLo> hi! can anyone help me get xeyes working? The docs for the program im running says to SSH using -Y, then use xeyes. when I type in xeyes, it says Error: can’t open display. This is a digital ocean droplet on ubuntu trusty
[21:28] <kisuke> ok, anyone know what the current method is to change X to 8 bit color?
[21:28] <TJ-> ubuntu249: if the PC is in S3 sleep (suspend to RAM) that should only wake it up
[21:28] <kisuke> errr 256 colors*
[21:28] <Jordan_U> kisuke: What is your end goal?
[21:29] <Guest72791> anyone know how i could fix this problem?
[21:29] <ubuntu249> TJ-: i am locking my laptop, and coming back, screen is off, after pressing power button its going to shutdown
[21:29] <Bashing-om> !sound | Guest72791
[21:29] <Jordan_U> ubuntu249: http://askubuntu.com/questions/362914/how-to-prevent-the-power-button-to-shutdown-directly-the-system though I think that would affect what happens when not at the login screen as well, if that's OK.
[21:30] <TJ-> ubuntu249: ahhh, then lock won't be putting it to sleep. As someone else said, press any other key (return) or move the mouse/touchpad
[21:30] <TJ-> ubottu: it sounds like the screen is just going into DPMS controlled backlight-off mode
[21:30] <TJ-> ubuntu249: it sounds like the screen is just going into DPMS controlled backlight-off mode
[21:31] <ubuntu249> TJ-: yes, probably
[21:31] <TJ-> I generally 'wiggle' the mouse :)
[21:31] <ubuntu249> TJ-: well, reasonable solution :)
[21:34] <ubuntu249> thank you all
[21:34] <kyshtynbai> Hi guys. I've just installed Ubuntu 14.04. The network manager sees wireless spots, but I can't connect to any. My adapter is Atheros AR9485
[21:35] <Guest41582> hello
[21:35] <Guest41582> i use from lantern to connect to developer.android.com
[21:35] <Guest41582> how can i set terminal to use from lantern
[21:36] <kisuke> Jordan_U, an old 16-bit win game. yay Vms
[21:36] <HowardwLo> any help for xeyes?
[21:37] <bekks> HowardwLo: connect using ssh -X or ssh -Y
[21:37] <HowardwLo> bekks: i tried both, still can’t find display
[21:37] <HowardwLo> sorry, can’t open display
[21:38] <bekks> HowardwLo: Then manually export the DISPLAY environment variable pointing to your X display.
[21:38] <HowardwLo> bekks: ok thats where i get lost. do you ahve a guide or something i can refer to? not usre how to point it to my x display
[21:38] <kisuke> Jordan_U, any ideas?
[21:39] <bekks> HowardwLo: you have an Ubuntu client (your computer) and a DigitalOcean Ubuntu server - right?
[21:39] <linuxlove> hello
[21:39] <HowardwLo> bekks: my computer is on OSX, but yes, a DO ubuntu server
[21:39] <ddybing> hi
[21:39] <linuxlove> how can i remove a repository?
[21:39] <bekks> HowardwLo: Then you need to start an X server on your OSX before.
[21:39] <kisuke> anyone know what the current method is to change X to 256 colors?
[21:39] <xintox_> .
[21:40] <linuxlove> sudo add-apt-repository
[21:40] <HowardwLo> bekks: http://www.xquartz.org/ this?
[21:40] <linuxlove> how can remove that?
[21:40] <nicomachus> !ppa-purge | linuxlove
[21:40] <bekks> HowardwLo: Yes.
[21:43] <linuxlove> ppa-purge: command not found
[21:43] <k1l> linuxlove: install it
[21:43] <nicomachus> linuxlove: did you read the factoid? install ppa-purge and  use the command
[21:44] <linuxlove> nicomachus, it is in process
[21:45] <linuxlove> java version "1.5.0" is output of java -version what should i do?
[21:46] <linuxlove> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.8.5
[21:46] <Windows98> update it
[21:46] <Windows98> oops meant that in another channel :(
[21:46] <Windows98> sorry]
[21:47] <HowardwLo> bekks: ok, i got x server installed on osx
[21:47] <HowardwLo> bekks: how do i point the ma-jigger?
[21:48] <ariel__> i need  help im still not getting sound
[21:50] <luketheduke1> ariel__ open the sound application
[21:50] <luketheduke1> Is the output set to the right hardware?
[21:50] <ariel__> i did
[21:50] <kisuke> I take it no one has any ideas?
[21:50] <kinker31> Heya! Is there a way to boot the Windows 10 RE Tools using grub2?
[21:51] <Jordan_U> kisuke: Don't bother trying to make your primary display 256 colors. If there's no way to make wine emulate 256 colors, then just use Xephyr to run a nested X server in 256 color mode.
[21:51] <lerner> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mapper/backup2 < is everything correct with this torrent?
[21:51] <lerner> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mapper/backup2 < is everything correct with this command?*
[21:51] <ariel__> luketheduke1 i did everything the ubuntu told m
[21:52] <ariel__> site*
[21:52] <k1l> lerner: no
[21:52] <luketheduke1> ariel__, is it fully updated as well?
[21:52] <tuborg> we
[21:52] <k1l> lerner: that will overwrite everything with 0
[21:52] <kisuke> Jordan_U, thanks.
[21:52] <Jordan_U> lerner: Are you trying to wipe that entire device?
[21:52] <ariel__> no
[21:52] <luketheduke1> ariel__, try that. A lot of times, updates help hardware stuff like that
[21:52] <lerner> Jordan_U, encrypt the whole device
[21:53] <lerner> k1l, also not encrypt, but simply write with zeroes...
[21:53] <luketheduke1> either run software updater, or open a terminal and type 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[21:53] <bekks> HowardwLo: Now you connect from your client to your server using ssh -X / ssh -Y
[21:53] <ariel__> i cnt upgrade i tried everything
[21:53] <bekks> HowardwLo: Next, you start xeyes in that ssh session and should be able to see it.
[21:53] <HowardwLo> bekks: i just tried that, both X and Y, but it stil lsays cant open display
[21:53] <ariel__> n still nothing
[21:54] <Jordan_U> kisuke: I don't know why this page is currently unavailable, but here is a wayback machine snapshot: https://web.archive.org/web/20150906031055/http://wiki.winehq.org/256ColorMode
[21:54] <HowardwLo> bekks: xquartz is currently running as well
[21:54] <luketheduke1> ariel__, what do you mean you can't update?
[21:54] <kisuke> Jordan_U, ... how did i not find that?
[21:54]  * kisuke takes sissors to google-fu belt
[21:55] <fearnothing> if I have a string of URL encoded ASCII what's the simplest way to get it to ASCII?
[21:55] <Windows98> :D
[21:55] <ariel__> i tried going to ubuntu 12.04 n i couldnt
[21:55] <lerner> http://www.cyberciti.biz/hardware/howto-linux-hard-disk-encryption-with-luks-cryptsetup-command/ step 3 < thats what Im doing
[21:56] <louis_> Hey guys got a question. I installed ubuntu, I think I did everything right but @windows disk management@ and @Gparted@ gives me a different list of HDD. Gparted says sda4 is EXTENDED and that sda5 (ext4) is inside with what it seems ubuntu mate in it. In windows it says sda4 is 100% free and sda5 (ext4) doesnt appear. Is it normal
[21:56] <ariel__> it just stays with the dialog open
[21:57] <HowardwLo> bekks: i’ve also tried it using the terminal within xquartz
[21:57] <luketheduke1> louis_, that is normal.
[21:57] <HowardwLo> bekks: no dice :(
[21:57] <luketheduke1> winblows just doesn't look at things right
[21:57] <louis_> ok luketheduke1. Thanks
[21:58] <lerner> i have been running dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mapper/backup2 for hours now and it doesnt stop. I assume it has to stop before I do pv -tpreb /dev/zero | dd of=/dev/mapper/backup2 bs=128M .
[21:58] <louis_> but how can I be sure I installed ubuntu mate in sda5
[21:58] <HowardwLo> gah, this x server crap is annoying
[21:58] <Jordan_U> louis_: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "sudo fdisk -l".
[21:58] <k1l> louis_: look at the gparted outpu or paste a "sudo parted -l" in a pastebin and show the link here
[21:58] <bekks> HowardwLo: Does your ssh server even allow X forwarding?
[21:59] <luketheduke1> lerner: what are you trying to do there?
[21:59] <lerner> Luke, encryot to luks
[21:59] <HowardwLo> bekks: is that the sshd_config setting?
[21:59] <HowardwLo> “X11Forwarding yes”
[22:01] <louis_> Here is my pastebin guys : http://pastebin.com/msttA2UB
[22:01] <DirtyCajun> Jordan_U: was on a support call. no i dont know regular expressions. im reading up now
[22:01] <TJ-> lerner: what are zeroing? a temporary dm-crypt device, or the raw underlying device that will contain the encrypted volume?
[22:02] <lerner> raw underlying device TJ-
[22:02] <TJ-> lerner: generally it makes sense to randomise the raw underlying device so blocks used by the encryption cannot be picked out amongst all thoes zeros.
[22:02] <luketheduke1> lerner: wouldn't shred work better for that? sudo shred /dev/sdX
[22:02] <louis_> Jordan_U and <k1l> here is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/msttA2UB
[22:03] <luketheduke1> or I guess sudo shred -n 20 -z -v /dev/sdX
[22:03] <Windows98> your kidding me by telling me it is a wd hard drive :D
[22:04] <TJ-> lerner: the typical way to do that is create a temporary throwaway encrypted device and write zeros *into* it, which actually results in randomised data in the raw enclosing device. Then you throw away that temporary, and "cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/sdXY" to create the new permanent encrypted container
[22:04] <k1l> louis_: so you installed in sda5. but imho 16GB is a bit small
[22:04] <louis_> I am going to put my files in the windows drive mostly.
[22:05] <louis_> is it an issue
[22:05] <TJ-> lerner: for an example see the "LUKS Fastest way to randomise disk content" here: https://squoo.sh/SHNIPS/
[22:05] <Jordan_U> louis_: The only problem I see is that sda5 is unaligned, which could seriously hurt disc performance but shouldn't cause problems with Windows "seeing" the partition.
[22:06] <k1l> louis_: make sure to disable the fast boot setting on windows. or you cant mount the partitions on linux
[22:07] <fearnothing> got the hex working
[22:07] <fearnothing> something I've been meaning to ask for ages
[22:08] <fearnothing> some commands don't produce a newline after the output finishes, so my prompt appears on the old line
[22:08] <louis_> ok, Ill try to fix the unaligned drive. And Ill check for the fast boot kil. I did not know I had that with windows 7
[22:08] <Jordan_U> louis_: How did you create this partitoin in the first place?
[22:08] <fearnothing> how do you ensure you get a newline before your prompt?
[22:09] <fearnothing> for example "cat thatsnomoon + "\n" | sed s/[G-Zg-z]//g | sed s/[$.,\;\(\)\!=_@]//g | xxd -r -p" results in my prompt starting partway through a line
[22:09] <k1l> fearnothing: like what command?
[22:09] <louis_> Jordan_U : windows disk management. I followed a tutorial. I free space the created the drive.
[22:09] <louis_> but I should only have sda4 not sda5
[22:10] <Jordan_U> louis_: Did you just install Ubuntu?
[22:10] <fearnothing> k1l: could it have anything to do with using putty?
[22:10] <k1l> fearnothing: yes
[22:11] <fearnothing> I see, putty's not interpreting one of the new line characters correctly or something?
[22:11] <louis_> Jordan_U : Yeah I installed Ubuntu mate on sda4 following a tutorial. And it seems to be in sda5
[22:11] <fearnothing> how do I find out what's failing?
[22:12] <Jordan_U> louis_: I would recommend deleting sda5 and sda4 then re-installing Ubuntu, allowing Ubuntu's installer to create the partitions as it will make sure they're aligned, and moving the contents of the partition to get it aligned will actually probably take more time than re-installing would.
[22:13] <louis_> Jordan_U : So do I use the option @Installed along Windows 7@
[22:13] <louis_> instead of something else
[22:13] <pedr0`> hi there
[22:13] <fearnothing> actually I can test whether or not it's putty
[22:14] <Jordan_U> louis_: That is what I would recommend. If you have a strong reason to change the defaults then do "something else" but I'll note that you currently don't have a swap partition, which Ubuntu's automatic partitioning creates automatically, and you probably do want one (if you ever want to hibernate).
[22:15] <louis_> Jordan_U : Ok, I will do that if ubuntu does the partitioning which I didnt know. Thank you
[22:15] <Jordan_U> louis_: You're welcome.
[22:16] <pedr0`> pedr0: test
[22:16] <kothammer40000> yes
[22:16] <Jordan_U> louis_: Also, in general you should avoid following guides from random websites wherever possible, and instead look for official documentation.
[22:16] <fearnothing> ok, it's not putty specifically
[22:16] <daniel__> Hi how i gonna reconfigurize my computer resolution
[22:16] <fearnothing> does exactly the same thing in vmware console
[22:17] <daniel__> ?
[22:17] <fearnothing> any other ideas k1l?
[22:17] <Jordan_U> fearnothing: Can you give an example command that leads to this problem?
[22:17] <daniel__> hay alguien de españa
[22:17] <louis_> Jordan_U : I understand, I am pretty good at researching on the net usually but for some reason I could not find that information in the Ubuntu mate wiki/faw
[22:17] <luketheduke1> daniel__, check for additional display drivers
[22:17] <fearnothing> cat thatsnomoon | sed s/[G-Zg-z]//g | sed s/[$.,\;\(\)\!=_@]//g | xxd -r -p
[22:17] <daniel__> ok
[22:18] <daniel__> thanks luke
[22:18] <kothammer40000> kaki
[22:19] <Jordan_U> louis_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation Installation is pretty much the same for all flavors (except server/minimal).
[22:19] <fearnothing> Jordan_U - and the file thatsnomoon just has ascii text in it
[22:19] <fearnothing> nothing special
[22:20] <fearnothing> I'm not sure that it's actually a fault, I think that's probably how xxd is supposed to work, if there was a newline char at the end of its output it would probably be wrong
[22:20] <fearnothing> but in a piped command like that is there a way of adding a newline at the end?
[22:20] <Jordan_U> fearnothing: Does thatsnomoon have a newline at the end of the file?
[22:20] <fearnothing> nope
[22:21] <Jordan_U> fearnothing: Then everything is working as intended. You can get the same result with just "echo -n no newline here".
[22:22] <Jordan_U> fearnothing: That, among other things, is why it is recommended that all text files end with a newline.
[22:22] <fearnothing> yeah I'm realising that part, so my question is turned into "what's the right way to add a new line so that my command prompt doesn't get shunted halfway around the screen?"
[22:22] <Jordan_U> fearnothing: echo >> thatsnomoon #If you want to modify the original file
[22:22] <lerner> TJ-, so i have been wasting my time...
[22:23] <fearnothing> er no I don't want to modify the original
[22:23] <fearnothing> I just want the output, plus a new line.
[22:23] <gecko_x2> hi peeps
[22:24] <imv> Hi, I'm on Ubuntu 15.10, with Unity 7.3.2 and when I have Firefox in fullscreen in a workspace and if I switch to another workspace then back, firefox is the window that's on top (even though I had, say, hexchat on top when I left the workspace), any idea how to fix this?
[22:24] <Jordan_U> fearnothing: cat thatsnomoon | sed s/[G-Zg-z]//g | sed s/[$.,\;\(\)\!=_@]//g | xxd -r -p; echo
[22:24] <fearnothing> aha, thankyou very much :)
[22:24] <gecko_x2> is there a guide to denying outbound traffic from ubuntu server except for allowing needed services
[22:24] <gecko_x2> ?
[22:24] <Jordan_U> fearnothing: You're welcome :)
[22:25] <luketheduke1> gecko_x2, yes you can. look at iptables
[22:25] <MonkeyDust> fearnothing  try this (with quotes)      alias PS1='USER_PS1'; PS1="Type your command(s) here: \n test";
[22:26] <gecko_x2> luketheduke1 i don't want to go through the hassle of allowing everything manually
[22:26] <gecko_x2> i'd need demons like dhcp and dns to be allowed, the needed stuff
[22:26] <gecko_x2> by a daemon basis, not tcp/udp port
[22:27] <luketheduke1> gecko_x2, I don't know if you can do that or not
[22:27] <gecko_x2> or is there another channel better suited?