[12:14] <alex_> devilsadvocate: but does give errors
[12:14] <devilsadvocate> alex_, the warnings are ok
[12:15] <alex_> !paste
[12:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:15] <alex_> devilsadvocate: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4033/
[12:15] <alex_> devilsadvocate: I get that for EVERYTHING I launch
[12:16] <christopher> is there a definative guide to installing xgl on kubuntu? I've seen tons of articles, but they are all old and some people post comments that they dont' work.
[12:16] <system_> hi all
[12:17] <devilsadvocate> alex_, thats ok
[12:17] <system_> hello all
[12:17] <system_> any 1 wanna help?
[12:18] <alex_> devilsadvocate: than why do things don't work so often? :S any ideas?
[12:18] <juano__> system_: sure
[12:18] <juano__> system_: whats the issue
[12:18] <devilsadvocate> alex_, no clue
[12:18] <devilsadvocate> alex_, if they work from the terminal they should work normally as well
[12:18] <system_> man
[12:18] <system_> iw anna talk on skype or yahoo
[12:18] <system_> but with voice
[12:18] <devilsadvocate> !question | system_
[12:18] <ubotu> system_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:18] <system_> lol
[12:19] <juano__> alex_: this happens sometimes , running things like 2 or 3 times to get them to work
[12:19] <system_> i just asked mine
[12:19] <juano__> system_: download skype from www.skype.com
[12:19] <alex_> really?
[12:19] <alex_> wow
[12:19] <alex_> that sucks, never had that problem in SuSE
[12:19] <devilsadvocate> alex_, i never had that problem :|
[12:19] <system_> lol
[12:19] <alex_> wierd
[12:19] <system_> my linux is
[12:19] <juano__> alex_: its due to something with the global variables i think
[12:19] <system_> ubuntu
[12:20] <juano__> alex_: its an error not a bug
[12:20] <juano__> alex_: you need to fix something
[12:20] <juano__> alex_: or searching from where are you executing the apps
[12:20] <juano__> alex_: devilsadvocate i never had it
[12:21] <juano__> alex_: i meant it happens sometimes
[12:21] <devilsadvocate> how do i get kdevelop 3.4 on edgy?
[12:21] <juano__> alex_: its caused of a bad setting
[12:21] <juano__> alex_: have you googled it _
[12:21] <h3sp4wn> !info kdevelop3
[12:21] <ubotu> kdevelop3: Dummy package for transition to kdevelop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2+dummy1 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 36 kB
[12:21] <alex_> juano__: lol, one thing at a time
[12:21] <alex_> juano__: first I need to get my res to work
[12:21] <h3sp4wn> !info kdevelop3 feisty
[12:21] <ubotu> kdevelop3: Dummy package for transition to kdevelop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2+dummy1 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 36 kB
[12:22] <devilsadvocate> hmm
[12:22] <h3sp4wn> !info kdevelop
[12:22] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[12:23] <h3sp4wn> !info kdevelop feisty
[12:23] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 8567 kB, installed size 26148 kB
[12:23] <h3sp4wn> backport it from feisty if you want it
[12:24] <devilsadvocate> h3sp4wn, manually? dont they usually have a repo i could just add? :P
[12:24] <devilsadvocate> h3sp4wn, dont bother. got it
[12:24] <h3sp4wn> devilsadvocate: you can't just pull packages from feisty or you will end up running feisty
[12:25] <alex_> so it says that I have to put 915resolution 1280 800 into /etc/init.d/boot.local
[12:25] <alex_> but there is no such file
[12:25] <alex_> do I create it?
[12:25] <devilsadvocate> h3sp4wn, there is a repo on kubuntu.orgwith kde3.5.6 for edgy, i guess it also has kdevelop
[12:25] <system_> guys
[12:25] <system_> helloooooooo
[12:25] <Sanne> alex_: this seems to be related to your error messages: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7964.0;topicseen and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1264009
[12:25] <system_> iwanna use yahoo
[12:25] <devilsadvocate> system_, yahoo voice is out of the question on *nix
[12:26] <system_> i wanna use yahoo messenger on ubuntu which is built on debian
[12:26] <system_> u mean its not on *nix?
[12:26] <chavo> there are kdevelop 3.4 packages for edgy http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[12:26] <juano__> system_: download SKYPE from www.skype.com
[12:26] <system_> ty
[12:26] <system_> i installed skype
[12:26] <system_> but i wanna yahoo
[12:26] <juano__> system_: to enter yahoo use KOPETE
[12:27] <alex_> Sanne: thanks, I'll try that after I figure out the whole resolution business
[12:27] <system_> with voive
[12:27] <devilsadvocate> system_, talk to yahoo about that. Kopete can do the text
[12:27] <system_> i can us gaim
[12:27] <Sanne> alex_: ok :)
[12:27] <juano__> run kopete i think you can enter yahoo accounts there
[12:27] <juano__> system_: yes
[12:27] <system_> i know
[12:27] <system_> but i want voiceeeeee
[12:27] <system_> not text
[12:27] <system_> :((
[12:28] <devilsadvocate> system_, have a look at yahoo's unix client. thats how much yahoo cares about its non-windows customers
[12:28] <intelikey> is there any way to see when an inode was created ?
[12:29] <system_> lol
[12:29] <system_> ya
[12:29] <alex_> so does anyone know if I need to create boot.local?
[12:29] <intelikey> boot.local ?
[12:29] <rEvolution27> who uses yahoo anyway?
[12:29] <intelikey> for what alex_ ?
[12:30] <devilsadvocate> rEvolution27 +1
[12:30] <alex_> intelikey: I need to add 915resolution 1280 800 there
[12:30] <alex_> intelikey: but the file doesn't exist /etc/init.d/boot.local
[12:30] <cpk1> alex_: just do sudo nanon /etc/init.d/boot.local
[12:30] <cpk1> nano even
[12:30] <Sanne> alex_: isn't it rc.local?
[12:30] <system_> lol
[12:30] <alex_> its not there though
[12:31] <system_> alot of ppl use yahoo
[12:31] <alex_> cpk1: its not there
[12:31] <alex_> the file doesn't exist
[12:31] <intelikey> it will be if you edit id
[12:31] <intelikey> it
[12:31] <cpk1> alex_: it will create it, or if that makes you uncomfortable do sudo touch /etc/init.d/boot.local
[12:31] <cpk1> and then edit it
[12:31] <alex_> ok
[12:31] <alex_> just making sure that that file is part of the system
[12:32] <intelikey> so howto see inode creation time ?
[12:32] <cpk1> it will be when you create it
[12:32] <alex_> it was there by default in suse, but not here
[12:32] <Sanne> alex_: again: isn't it /etc/rc.local?
[12:32] <cpk1> alex_: probably because multiuser scripts go in rc.local
[12:32] <alex_> Sanne: I have no idea, I just go by the instructions that are given on the website
[12:33] <will> anyone know how to check the size of a file from the command prompt?
[12:33] <alex_> and rc.local is not there anyway
[12:33] <intelikey> will ls -l filename
[12:33] <alex_> will: ls -l
[12:33] <intelikey> but i want to know how to see file creation time
[12:33] <cpk1> alex_: /etc/rc.local most certainly is
[12:34] <Sanne> alex_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/Hardware#How_to_Correct_the_Graphics_Resolution_.28Intel.29
[12:35] <rEvolution> lol
[12:35] <will> intelikey and alex_: that gave me -r-x--------- 1 root root 0 Jan 30 00:59
[12:35] <rEvolution> alot of ppl use yahoo
[12:35] <rEvolution27> huh?
[12:35] <intelikey> err   i want to know how to see inode creation time.
[12:35] <h3sp4wn> rc.local shouldn't be used its a bsd thing
[12:35] <cpk1> will: so its size is 0, also you can do ls -lh to make the sizes more readable
[12:36] <h3sp4wn> (and suppost to be depreciated)
[12:36] <alex_> h3sp4wn: omg, I am confused like hell
[12:36] <alex_> h3sp4wn: so what do I do then??
[12:36] <h3sp4wn>  use /etc/init.d/skeleton and customise to suit
[12:36] <cpk1> h3sp4wn: let me guess you are supposed to use rc#.d/ ?
[12:36] <will> cpk1: I was afraid of that.  any idea why all of my text files have no size now?
[12:37] <h3sp4wn> cpk1: or /etc/event.d
[12:37] <h3sp4wn> cpk1: (I only know sysv style)
[12:37] <will> cpk1: I somehow moved my home folder from /home/will to /media/sda5/will and apperently the files lost all but their names in the process
[12:37] <alex_> h3sp4wn and cpk1: http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/readme.html
[12:37] <alex_> it says /etc/init.d/boot.local
[12:37] <intelikey> so nobody knows a way to view inode creation time, or if it's even possable ?
[12:38] <cpk1> hrmm I was having trouble getting a simple line in for loading my iptables on boot, and I had no clue why it wasnt working in rc.local or in rc2.d
[12:38] <h3sp4wn> alex_: that might be on fedora or redhat
[12:38] <h3sp4wn> cpk1: put it in /etc/network/interfaces using a pre-up or post-up
[12:38] <h3sp4wn> cpk1: (that can be script if you want)
[12:39] <will> I somehow moved my home folder from /home/will to /media/sda5/will and apperently the files lost all but their names in the process.  anyone know what may have happened and if there is any chance of recovery?
[12:39] <h3sp4wn> cpk1: makes as much sense to have that run when the interface goes up as any other way to me
[12:39] <luca_b> intelikey: there should be a way to read a ctime
[12:39] <intelikey> yeah but how ?
[12:40] <h3sp4wn> find -ctime
[12:40] <cpk1> h3sp4wn: this is all it is /sbin/iptables-restore /etc/network/iptables.rules do I need to add a #!/bin/sh too if I put it in interfaces? I am not very good with this stuff
[12:40] <alex_> LOL, it was rc.local after all
[12:40] <alex_> THANKS dudes
[12:40] <alex_> ahhhh, nice and crisp native resolution
[12:41] <intelikey> h3sp4wn but for unknown time how will you use that ?
[12:41] <luca_b> intelikey: Do you know which inode is it?
[12:41] <intelikey> no
[12:41] <luca_b> intelikey: because apparently there is the "debugfs" utlity
[12:41] <intelikey> i know the c time should be within the last 4 weeks
[12:41] <will> anyone know how to search all hard drives for a file from the command prompt
[12:41] <ghazanfar> hello
[12:41] <h3sp4wn> cpk1: pre-up /sbin/iptables-restore /etc/network/iptables.rules
[12:42] <luca_b> that once started, you can get information with a specific inode
[12:42] <luca_b> using stat <inode number> inside debugfs
[12:42] <jmichaelx> to install a .deb package, does one just enter 'dpkg packagename.deb'?
[12:42] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: dpkg -i
[12:42] <jmichaelx> ahh, ok ty
[12:43] <Sanne> jmichaelx: dpkg -i package (see 'man dpkg' for all the options)
[12:43] <h3sp4wn> cpk1: (last line under iface eth0 or whatever would work)
[12:43] <luca_b> intelikey: you're checking a specific file?
[12:43] <rasengan> hello everyone
[12:44] <intelikey> luca_b looking for a way to identify all files newer than blah
[12:44] <jordo23> !upgrade
[12:44] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[12:44] <cpk1> h3sp4wn: alright thanks, rebooting to see if it works
[12:44] <luca_b> intelikey: ls -il shows inodes associated to files
[12:44] <luca_b> and dirs
[12:44] <cpk1> actually i cant reboot because the other machine connected to this is in the middle of a download
[12:44] <intelikey> luca_b checking.
[12:45] <luca_b> intelikey: but you want to use creation file and not modification file, right?
[12:45] <cpk1> h3sp4wn: I will check it when I get the chance =P
[12:45] <luca_b> intelikey: ls -lc (-c = sort by ctime)
[12:45] <luca_b> intelikey:  actually ls -lct
[12:47] <intelikey> luca_b ls -l lists a timestamp but it's not when the file was created on this fs.  it's when it was first made.  i need a way to check when it was downloaded    backing incrementally  /var/cache/apt/archives/*   i dont want to re-burn all three cd's   just a few houndred meg on one cd that i don't have archived  so i can carry it to a non-networked box.
[12:48] <luca_b> intelikey: I just found this - http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/faq/part3/section-1.html
[12:48] <intelikey> ls -l* doesn't work.
[12:48] <intelikey> looking at that url now
[12:48] <luca_b> intelikey: it basically says you can't get the creation time
[12:48] <luca_b> intelikey: only the last change time
[12:49] <intelikey> figures....
[12:49] <musya> is it possible to get drivers for my keyboard and mouse?
[12:49] <luca_b> musya: depends, you mean extra buttons?
[12:49] <musya> they just freeze up at times
[12:49] <rEvolution> guys
[12:49] <intelikey> but i have files in there that the date is 2004  and the fs is not that old.
[12:49] <SYS0110> i wanna use multi lanugae on gnome
[12:49] <musya> luca_b: no they freeze up on me at times
[12:49] <musya> i dont know why?
[12:50] <luca_b> musya: What motherboard model do you have?
[12:50] <musya> could it be my vidoe card?
[12:50] <musya> im running my monitor through my motherboard
[12:50] <Minataku> intelikey: Do this
[12:50] <Minataku> touch all the files
[12:50] <musya> is there a way too check in terminal
[12:50] <Minataku> Then make a base backup with them
[12:50] <SYS0110> guys
[12:50] <SYS0110> i wanna use multi lanugae on gnome
[12:50] <Minataku> After that, only backup files that change
[12:51] <SYS0110> i wanna use multi language on gnome
[12:51] <luca_b> intelikey: stat is the other command you can check to see everything about a file
[12:51] <luca_b> musya: Depends, what's the make and model of your MB?
[12:51] <intelikey> Minataku good idea  so if i have older files i'll know they are actually newer.
[12:51] <luca_b> musya: some have BIOSes that are far from perfect
[12:51] <Minataku> SYS0110: Please stop asking and wait patiently for an answer.
[12:51] <slyfox> Anyone uses Kopete to connect to google ?
[12:51] <demente> Hi all, I was wondering if it's possible to change the splash screen of amarok.
[12:51] <luca_b> slyfox: Tried once, didn't work too well, so I gave up
[12:51] <Minataku> You're not the king of the universe, we don't have to drop everything to help you
[12:52] <intelikey> SYS0110 also #ubuntu is the channel for gnome support.
[12:52] <SYS0110> well iam waiting, i dint mean to spamm
[12:52] <jordo23> !nvidia
[12:52] <demente> I'm the king of the universe.
[12:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:52] <demente> I have a badge that says so.
[12:52] <slyfox> luca_b: yeah, because I can connect only rarely
[12:52] <slyfox> luca_b: alternatives ?
[12:52] <Minataku> SYS0110: It's okay, just calm down
[12:52] <Minataku> If nobody answers they're either busy or don't know
[12:52] <luca_b> slyfox: Any jabber client is fine, or do you want voice support?
[12:53] <musya> my computer is pretty old its running an AMD 1600+ and the motherboard cant take a faster proccessor
[12:53] <demente> So, yeah - Amarok splash screens, is it possible to change them? Cos other wise I figure I'm just wasting time.
[12:53] <Minataku> Also, intelikey is right, Ubuntu uses GNOME, Kubuntu uses KDE
[12:53] <luca_b> demente: AFAICT, no
[12:53] <intelikey> stat doesn't even do wildcards  how lame is that.
[12:53] <demente> luca_b: damn. : (
[12:53] <luca_b> musya: do you remember which chipset does your motherboard use? VIA or nForce?
[12:54] <musya> honestly i dont
[12:54] <musya> its not in easy reach right now
[12:54] <intelikey> well i have a work around for now.  thanks for all the effort and ToD guys.
[12:54] <slyfox> luca_b: what otehr jabber clients? Voice would be great, but I sattled down with skype for voice.
[12:54] <musya> is there a driver i need? or is it just the motherboard?
[12:55] <luca_b> slyfox: I use Psi, you can use Gaijim or anything of the sort... Gaim also works
[12:55] <luca_b> musya: I'm trying to figure that out. Open a terminal, type in "lspci" and paste the output on the pastebin (address on channel topic)
[12:56] <slyfox> luca_b: Psi, interesting, what is the website ?
[12:56] <luca_b> slyfox: ubuntu has it in their repositories
[12:56] <jordo23> once I have nvidia's glx driver installed how do I change screen resolution>?
[12:57] <musya> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4037/
[12:57] <slyfox> luca_b: I will google and see if I can find it, I wonder how it looks
[12:57] <musya> the mouse is freaking annoying as hell
[12:57] <demente> luca_b: I prefered the previous one, before Fastforward.
[12:58] <demente> I use Ubuntu, but I always install a set of KDE apps because a lot of them are much better than the Gnome counterparts.
[12:58] <slyfox> luca_b: actually I just followed this post: http://amazing-development.com/archives/2006/01/20/using-google-talk-with-kopete/   and all works
[12:59] <h3sp4wn> jordo23: specify it explicitly in xorg.conf or use xrandr (if you use 9xxx you need Option          "IncludeImplicitMetaModes" "False" in xorg.conf Section "Screen")
[12:59] <demente> ie, Amarok, Konversation, KTorrent, Kopete...
[12:59] <jmichaelx> in my xlog, it gives this error 'GLX is not supported with the Composite extension'. could someone tell me what this might be so that i can get accelerated 3D working again?
[12:59] <luca_b> slyfox: just a matter of apt-getting, anyway, I'll give you the page in a sec
[12:59] <luca_b> slyfox: http://psi.affinix.com/
[12:59] <luca_b> jordo23: drop to a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and follow through the steps. Make sure to select "nvidia" as driver
[12:59] <luca_b> jordo23: then pick the resolutions you want to support. The highest one will be the one used first
[12:59] <luca_b> musya: looking at it
[12:59] <rEvolution27> how do i disable multiple desktops?
[12:59] <luca_b> musya: ok, your MB uses a VIA chipset
[01:00] <luca_b> musya: do the lock ups happen when you access disk heavily?
[01:00] <musya> nope random times
[01:00] <luca_b> jmichaelx: ATI or NVIDIA video card?
[01:00] <intelikey> rEvolution27 set the number of desktops to 1
[01:00] <musya> sometimes when heavily accessed yea
[01:00] <demente> rEvolution27: why not just... not use them?
[01:00] <jmichaelx> luca_b: nvidia
[01:00] <slyfox> luca_b: thanks. But kopete looks nicer.
[01:00] <luca_b> musya: just for checks, paste me the output of "sudo hdparm /dev/hda"
[01:00] <demente> kopete is the sex.
[01:01] <rEvolution27> i'm using beryl demente
[01:01] <intelikey> oh
[01:01] <intelikey> !beryl
[01:01] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:01] <intelikey> see the channel ^
[01:01] <rEvolution27> no not the beryl
[01:02] <rEvolution27> i want to disable the multiple desktop applet on the taskbar
[01:02] <intelikey> remove it from the taskbar
[01:02] <rEvolution27> how?
[01:02] <intelikey> right click
[01:02] <musya> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[01:02] <rEvolution27> oh nvm
[01:03] <rEvolution27> sigh i'm so stupid sometimes
[01:03] <intelikey> no argument form me on that.....  :)
[01:03] <luca_b> slyfox: you're right, that howto worked, thanks
[01:04] <luca_b> musya: address incomplete, shouldn't there be a number after the URL?
[01:04] <slyfox> luca_b: if an error occurs, just press continue and that is it
[01:04] <musya> sorry it showed me an error
[01:04] <musya> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4039/
[01:05] <musya> that will wokr
[01:05] <musya> work*
[01:05] <luca_b> musya: found it
[01:05] <luca_b> musya: DMA enabled, so that rules it out
[01:05] <musya> what DMA anyway?
[01:05] <luca_b> musya: DIrect Memory Access, basically a way to speed up disk access
[01:05] <jordo23> !flash
[01:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:05] <ubotu> (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:05] <musya> so any idea?
[01:05] <luca_b> musya: slow operation with disk access means it's disabled
[01:06] <luca_b> musya: I'll check something, hold on
[01:06] <jordo23> What's the package and repository for Flash 9
[01:06] <Minataku> Ugh... someone replace the !flash pointer
[01:06] <intelikey> !flash9
[01:06] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:06] <Minataku> That's so stupid, the end-user doesn't have a choice to use Flash or not
[01:06] <Minataku> It should NOT be linked to !multimedia
[01:06] <jordo23> intelikey: thanks
[01:06] <intelikey> Minataku ?
[01:07] <musya> luca_b: ok
[01:07] <luca_b> musya: one last paste... dmesg | tail
[01:07] <Minataku> !flash is !flash9
[01:07] <Minataku> What the crap
[01:07] <h3sp4wn> The end user does hava a choice (I don't use flash at all)
[01:07] <intelikey> Minataku i choose to NOT use flash...   what are you on about ?
[01:07] <Minataku> Why not? You miss out without Flash
[01:08] <luca_b> musya: and a question, USB mouse or PS2?
[01:08] <intelikey> i haven't missed a thing.
[01:08] <h3sp4wn> I have missed out on loads of useless adds
[01:08] <h3sp4wn> *ads
[01:08] <luca_b> Minataku: IMO flash is one of the worst "technologies" ever made for web
[01:08] <Skyblast> Yeah, you miss out on great stuff like animated ads, and youtube. ;)
[01:08] <luca_b> Minataku: it's also vendor-locked
[01:08] <musya> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4040/
[01:08] <Minataku> I use adblock
[01:08] <musya> my monitor has slow reactions too i noticed it drags the screens when you move it around
[01:09] <luca_b> musya: uh oh
[01:09] <musya> the keyboard is ps2 but mouse is usb
[01:09] <Skyblast> I have played with the final version of flash 9 a lot lately
[01:09] <luca_b> musya: [17195695.516000]  hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
[01:09] <musya> logitech
[01:09] <Skyblast> It is still not very good
[01:09] <jordo23> What's the package name for flash9 in backports?
[01:09] <luca_b> musya: You may have a failing drive here
[01:09] <Minataku> Skyblast: It's better than the lame Flash 7 player
[01:09] <Skyblast> Yeah definitely
[01:09] <Skyblast> but it still craps out firefox once in a while
[01:09] <Minataku> Which desynched at the drop of a hat
[01:09] <luca_b> musya: I think the errors are caused by the drive
[01:09] <parents> just installed a new nvidia card with a tv out... does anyone know how to get the tv out to work?
[01:09] <Minataku> My only issues were FLV players crapping
[01:09] <h3sp4wn> jordo23: flashplugin-nonfree
[01:10] <Minataku> And that was usually once per video if at all
[01:10] <luca_b> musya: they are DMA errors, I'd suggest you back up your data
[01:10] <Minataku> Oh, yeah, 0x84 is BAD
[01:10] <intelikey> lol
[01:10] <Minataku> musya: Backup your data ASAP
[01:10] <musya> whats that mean exactly? can you kinda hold my hand here for a bit?
[01:10] <Minataku> This is not a drill
[01:10] <Minataku> musya: Forget what it means
[01:10] <Minataku> We'll talk later
[01:11] <Minataku> Right now, back up that data
[01:11] <musya> ok ill back up 1 sec
[01:11] <intelikey> 0x84 is an address.   hdd  or hde   i don't recall which
[01:11] <intelikey> hde
[01:11] <Minataku> intelikey: Negative
[01:11] <musya> anybody know of a good ftp gui
[01:11] <tsdgeos> konqueror?
[01:11] <tsdgeos> kbear?
[01:11] <tsdgeos> gftp?
[01:11] <Minataku> [17195695.516000]  hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } <<
[01:11] <Minataku> Screw GUI FTP clients
[01:11] <luca_b> musya: Sorry, can't help you here, I use command line FTP tools
[01:11] <Minataku> Just use ncftp
[01:11] <Minataku> !ncftp
[01:11] <ubotu> ncftp: A user-friendly and well-featured FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:3.1.9-1 (edgy), package size 441 kB, installed size 1020 kB
[01:11] <luca_b> Minataku: agreed
[01:11] <musya> ok ill ftp it luckly its only code so
[01:11] <h3sp4wn> I use ncftp but only because I have always have lftp is supposed to be better
[01:12] <luca_b> musya: your HD is old?
[01:12] <tsdgeos> btw you know ftp is helluva unsercure, right
[01:12] <tsdgeos> ?
[01:12] <luca_b> tsdgeos: you mean plaintext passwords?
[01:12] <Minataku> "DriveStatusError BadCRC" means the drive is failing consistency checks
[01:12] <tsdgeos> luca_b: that's ti
[01:12] <Minataku> The data that's supposed to be there isn't there
[01:12] <Minataku> And the checksums don't match
[01:12] <musya> yea its old
[01:12] <Minataku> musya: Yeah, get on backing it up ASAP
[01:12] <luca_b> tsdgeos: I usually use sftp or scp, but I fall back to FTP in some cases
[01:12] <musya> about 7 years
[01:13] <Phlosten> musya: kasablanca is a great ftp client
[01:13] <musya> ill back it up right now
[01:13] <luca_b> musya: an HD operative life is about 10 years, I think yours is getting close to dying
[01:13] <Minataku> It IS dying
[01:13] <Minataku> lol
[01:13] <Skyblast> Has anyone tried the beryl 0.2.0 RC1 yet?
[01:13] <luca_b> Skyblast: I did
[01:13] <musya> good thing i asked i would be pissed finals are around the corner
[01:13] <Skyblast> How's it coming along?
[01:13] <luca_b> Skyblast: DON'T use it if you use XGL
[01:13] <jmichaelx> finals in february?
[01:13] <luca_b> Skyblast: beryl-xgl segfaults
[01:14] <Skyblast> At the moment, I have no beryl setup. I haven't put it back on since I reloaded my Kubuntu install a month or so ago
[01:14] <luca_b> Skyblast: on my other box, with a NVIDIA card and AIGLX, goes around well
[01:14] <h3sp4wn> Skyblast: all I know about beryl 0.2.0 RC1 is it had packaging problems RC2 was supposed to fix them
[01:14] <jmichaelx> i had beryl working with xgl..... then i tried to switch to AIGLX, and all has been hell ever since
[01:14] <h3sp4wn> NVIDIA doesn't use AIGLX
[01:14] <Minataku> That's lame... RCs should not get out with critical issues
[01:14] <luca_b> I think XGL is an ugly hack, but it's the only way to use Beryl on my laptop (ATI card)
[01:14] <Minataku> ATI is an ugly hack
[01:15] <Minataku> Hopefully AMD turns them around
[01:15] <Minataku> AMD is an F/OSS supporter
[01:15] <h3sp4wn> (either that or every nvidia drivers supports AIGLX)
[01:15] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: it is a big debate, the docs tell you to use AIGLX with nvidia
[01:15] <Skyblast> I have an ATi card, but luckily mine is old enough then the radeon driver 3d support mostly works
[01:15] <musya> i got a hard drive - external. but i cant send files to it, it says permissions denied
[01:15] <luca_b> Minataku: sadly, yes, but I couldn't find a laptop with good NVIDIA graphics for my price range
[01:15] <jmichaelx> in my xlog, it gives this error 'GLX is not supported with the Composite extension'. could someone tell me what this might be so that i can get accelerated 3D working again?
[01:15] <parents> just installed a new nvidia card with a tv out... does anyone know how to get the tv out to work?
[01:15] <hammer2> hi all wireless trouble here NetGear WG511 and i have a log of whats been done so far pls take a look and tell me if ya can help me http://pastebin.ca/339301
[01:15] <luca_b> jmichaelx: One second, I'll tell you how to fix the composite thing
[01:16] <jmichaelx> luca_b: ty
[01:16] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: AIGLX is the part of xorg that deals with texture_from_pixmap - nvidia doesn't use that it uses its stuff (which is just a wrapper for the windows driver)
[01:16] <luca_b> jmichaelx: in the section "Device" where there is "Driver" "nvidia" etc etc
[01:16] <glimmung> hi all, can someone tell me, what am I supposed to do with an "apt source"?
[01:16] <luca_b> jmichaelx: add this
[01:16] <Skyblast> Right now my Kubuntu is using fglrx. I was seeing if there was any advantage of using it over the radeon driver. There isn't. In fact, fglrx makes some things more annoying for me
[01:16] <luca_b> jmichaelx: Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
[01:17] <jmichaelx> luca_b: thanks a million
[01:17] <parents> just installed a new nvidia card with a tv out... does anyone know how to get the tv out to work?
[01:17] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: ty for the info
[01:17] <musya> any idea on how to let it copy and paste?
[01:17] <luca_b> Skyblast: don't tell me.. radeon doesn't work well on the X600 I have and fglrx bombs in resuming from hibernate
[01:18] <glimmung> im trying to install the latest amarok, but i dont understand the insturctions on this page, could someone explain them to me? http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.4.php
[01:18] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: fwiw you can use texture_from_pixmap on dapper (xorg 7) with nvidia's drivers (aiglx was not part of xorg then)
[01:18] <Skyblast> Yeah, my friend has an X800 and he has all kinds of hell with it
[01:18] <h3sp4wn> <= X850 should work with free drivers now
[01:19] <luca_b> h3sp4wn: They have some problems with detecting the right monitor setup, I just get a blank screen and a lock up
[01:20] <luca_b> but since I don't use fancy 3D desktops, I'm fine with it (minus with hibernation not working)
[01:20] <alex_> how do I add startup items?
[01:20] <h3sp4wn> luca_b: I tried have tried them with a 9800pro and a 9700pro mobility and they worked pretty well
[01:20] <SYS0110> i wanna use multi language on gnome(i mean switch between 2 languages)
[01:20] <SYS0110> i wanna use multi language on gnome(i mean switch between 2 languages)
[01:20] <luca_b> h3sp4wn: that's what it's inside my brother's VAIO, and in fact he can get hibernation even with fglrx
[01:21] <glimmung> alex_: make a toolbar entry for the apps you want, then move them to ~/.kde/Autostart
[01:21] <musya> luca_b: so what was my exact error stating?
[01:21] <luca_b> musya: as MInataku said
[01:21] <luca_b> musya: data consistency checks were failing
[01:21] <musya> what does that mean?
[01:22] <Skyblast> I only have a 9800SE, so radeon works fine. Maybe later tonight I'll go back to my old config and try beryl with aiglx again
[01:22] <Minataku> More than likely in this case the physical media of the drive was beginning to deteriorate
[01:22] <musya> ah,
[01:22] <stringa> hello...........how do i register kubuntu?
[01:22] <musya> is there a way to back up my whole system?
[01:22] <tsdgeos> lol
[01:22] <Skyblast> Register?
[01:22] <Minataku> stringa: Fill out the registration card and mail it in
[01:22] <h3sp4wn> luca_b: I used suspend2
[01:22] <musya> so i dont have to reinstal everytihing on my new drive
[01:22] <luca_b> h3sp4wn: Never tried it
[01:22] <musya> stringa:  there is no registration
[01:23] <luca_b> musya: do you remember if you made a separate /home partition?
[01:23] <glimmung> can anyone explain to me if these instructions want me to use apt? http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.4.php
[01:23] <SYS0110> i wanna use multi language on gnome(i mean switch between 2 languages)
[01:23] <SYS0110> i wanna use multi language on gnome(i mean switch between 2 languages)
[01:23] <stringa> i need gcc and when I run sudo apt-get install I always get 'E:\package not found'
[01:23] <musya> luca_b: dont think so i did an automatic partition
[01:23] <Minataku> SYS0110: Please ask in #ubuntu
[01:23] <tsdgeos> stringa: apt-get install gcc ;-)
[01:23] <Minataku> This channel is for the Ubuntu variant Kubuntu which utilizes KDE
[01:23] <luca_b> musya: then you want to back up everything in /home/<username> where username is your actual user name
[01:24] <Minataku> Indeed, everything else can be reinstalled
[01:24] <tsdgeos> stringa: other than that maybe your sources.list sucks and you don't have things there
[01:24] <glimmung> can anyone tell me what do I do with an "apt source"?
[01:24] <stringa> how do i fix that one
[01:24] <luca_b> musya: Suggestion when you reinstall - make up a separate /home partition, it's great when you screw up your system, because user data stays safe
[01:25] <Skyblast> Oh! While I'm thinking about it... does anyone know why MPlayer's icon is all scrambled down in the taskbar area as well as the title bar? This happens in any desktop environment I try on (X)(K)Ubuntu
[01:25] <luca_b> As a matter of fact, I am puzzled that *buntu doesn't use that as default when installing (at least in alternate mode, I never use the liveCD)
[01:25] <musya> luca_b: what do you mean screw up my system? you mean i ruiend my drive?
[01:25] <luca_b> musya: no no no, I was talking about the future
[01:26] <luca_b> musya: next time you install linux
[01:26] <musya> ok
[01:26] <Skyblast> yeah a seperate /home and /boot will save you a lot of trouble sometime
[01:26] <musya> ill look at some barbone kits?
[01:26] <musya> what is the system recs for kubuntu?
[01:26] <musya> or ubuntu?
[01:27] <luca_b> Skyblast: as long as /boot is large enough, I recall making one too lilttle and with 2 kernels it filled up... intrd generation failed and it was a pain to fix
[01:27] <Minataku> Set aside 256MB for /boot
[01:27] <glimmung> can anyone tell me what do I do with an "apt source"?
[01:27] <Minataku> That should provide for several kernels+initrds
[01:27] <luca_b> glimmung: they're meant to be added to the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[01:28] <parents> just installed a new nvidia card with a tv out... does anyone know how to get the tv out to work?
[01:28] <Minataku> You always want more than one
[01:28] <musya> ok
[01:28] <Skyblast> parents: have you tried using the binary drivers?
[01:28] <musya> man, i cant ftp
[01:28] <Minataku> Especially when upgrading, you want the last working one in case the new one fails
[01:28] <musya> i just did ftp host
[01:29] <parents> the nvidia drivers are installed
[01:29] <luca_b> Minataku: usually I keep 3, latest + 2 older ones
[01:29] <musya> and then i do put /home/michae/cs161.zip
[01:29] <musya> and it says no such file?
[01:29] <parents> but i get no signal to the tv.. only during boot.. then when i get to the login, it goes black
[01:29] <Minataku> luca_b: True
[01:29] <Minataku> Which is why I said 256MB
[01:30] <Skyblast> parents: Maybe this will be helpful? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOut
[01:30] <stringa> How come Adept Manager doesn't recognize my wireless card?       is that normal?
[01:31] <jordo23> !java
[01:31] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:31] <intelikey> 200m+ for boot ?   a kernel + initrd.img takes up about 6m
[01:31] <luca_b> stringa: depends on the wireless card, remember the make and model?
[01:32] <Minataku> intelikey: I don't use an initrd so I erred on the side of caution
[01:32] <Minataku> I can stuff about 6 or 7 kernels into 50MB
[01:32] <stringa> gateway laptop...........i'm online chatting to you with it right now
[01:32] <Minataku> I assumed that the Kubuntu initrd which is stuffed with every boot-critical module would be pretty big
[01:33] <intelikey> Minataku sure.   so 5 X that is kinda  PLENTY  but safe doesn't hurt as bad as sorry.
[01:33] <luca_b> stringa: any chance to find the model?
[01:33] <luca_b> stringa: of the laptop I mean
[01:34] <stringa> CX210X
[01:34] <smaggard> well i got my sftp jail but now my webdirs in the /home folder says access forbidden.. hmmm
[01:34] <goodthing> are there any plans in changing the standard icons with feisty?
[01:34] <intelikey> wow  mount /cdrom  closed the tray to mount it... i don't guess i'd ever tried that before.
[01:35] <goodthing> into tango would make it much more attractive than crystal
[01:36] <luca_b> stringa: it is an intel-based chipset apparently
[01:36] <luca_b> stringa: should be supported on linux
[01:36] <luca_b> stringa: you should try and issue a "sudo modprobe ipw2200" and see what happens
[01:36] <intelikey> hmmm doesn't always work...   mount /disks/cdrom
[01:36] <intelikey> Mountainman: No medium found
[01:36] <luca_b> (in console, of course)
[01:37] <coach> I want to add Kubuntu to my Sabayon linux install (dual boot) can someonr point me to some documentation that might help?
[01:38] <intelikey> but nick: completion always seems to work when you don't want it too....
[01:40] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: i am not trying to say this is a good thing, but i have beryl working with AIGLX....
[01:41] <jmichaelx> with an older nVidia card
[01:42] <coach> beryl works with PClinuxOs and Sabayon out of the box
[01:42] <coach> NP
[01:43] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: aiglx doesn't support nvidia cards
[01:43] <intelikey> and k3b makes me the prettiest coasters you ever did see.............
[01:44] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: are you just saying that even if you can run aiglx with an nvidia card, you shouldn't?
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: grep -i aiglx /var/log/Xorg.0.log (will return nothing with nvidia)
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: If you are running aiglx then you will get something similar to |AIGLX enabled|| or so
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> texture_from_pixmap is not aiglx
[01:45] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: ok... i entered that command and got nothing..... i wonder how in the  world beryl is running then?? i do not have xgl installed
[01:46] <intelikey> !beryl | go here for help with
[01:46] <ubotu> go here for help with: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: its using texture_from_pixmap but that can be implimented either by the nvidia driver or AIGLX
[01:47] <jmichaelx> intelikey: sorry about all of the banter about beryl.....   i am just confused about this
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: With the newest NVIDIA drivers, the OpenGL calls are supported in the driver itself, with no need for X.org (version 7 and newer) to provide the indirect rendering facility.
[01:47] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: that is fascinating but confusing lol
[01:47] <jmichaelx> i see
[01:48] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: (that is from the aiglx wikipedia article)
[01:48] <anaryin> 'night everyone
[01:48] <jmichaelx> i am using the nvidia-glx-legacy driver.... the newest... which is not even right for my card, but the right one is not in the repos...
[01:49] <ninHer> hi all
[01:49] <anaryin> I'm having a little problem installing/getting to work a webcam from lifetech... anyone can give me a hand? thanks!
[01:49] <jmichaelx> beryl is working well, but slightly sluggish
[01:49] <krups> core 2 duo decent on ubuntu?  or should i stick to amd64.  if going intel, what packages do i use?
[01:50] <intelikey> !webcam | anaryin
[01:50] <ubotu> anaryin: webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:50] <musya> ok i got it backed up now what?
[01:51] <anaryin> thanks :)
[01:56] <intelikey> ok someone remind me, is there a way to force kde "mainly konqueror"  to never use a "trash" ?
[01:57] <Sanne> intelikey: shift-delete (by default) when deleting files, I think.
[01:57] <awilcox> How do I get the default control back?
[01:58] <musya> can you use kubuntu on pentium d? its 64 bit? or does 64 have to be just amd?
[01:58] <awilcox> musya there is an IA64 version
[01:58] <awilcox> Sorry, I need to ask better.
[01:58] <musya> well can i use the amd64 install on intel?
[01:58] <awilcox> Where can I change my network information e.g. IP address, gateway, etc... on the KDE Control Center?
[01:59] <intelikey> Sanne ok   that works for a one shot deal.  but that's not an affective cure...
[01:59] <goodthing> musya: you can put any of i386 or amd64 on that
[01:59] <awilcox> I changed from the default settings handler (I don't remember what it is called) and instead use the KDE Control Center, and can't find a Network Settings.
[01:59] <jmichaelx> intelikey: i don't remember how, but you can also add 'delete' to your menu, and you can even shut the whole trash business off... you would have to poke around
[01:59] <musya> because  i only see x86 for intel
[01:59] <alex_> musya: it works for both AMD64 and EM64T
[01:59] <musya> so amd64 install will work on intel?
[01:59] <musya> ok
[01:59] <musya> thanks
[01:59] <Sanne> intelikey: well, I just swapped the keyboard shortcuts for konqui, other than that, I don't know. Reminds me to look into the trash if something's in it...
[02:00] <awilcox> I am on Linux.
[02:00] <intelikey> jmichaelx yeah got that.  but that still doesn't "prevent" the use of trash cans
[02:00] <goodthing> musya: yeah, but that is just because of the past and how everybody got to know of it
[02:00] <awilcox> argh
[02:00] <awilcox> I mean, I am on Dapper.
[02:00] <musya> ok thanks, you think intel or amd is better for linux?
[02:00] <intelikey> Sanne k   ty
[02:00] <goodthing> musya: currently with core 2 duo it's intel taking the lead
[02:01] <musya> but just like and 64 3700 or pentium d?
[02:01] <jmichaelx> ahhh
[02:02] <musya> goodthing: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=722255&Tab=2&NoMapp=0
[02:02] <awilcox> Older AMDs were terrible, but anything >= Athlon is probably better than Intel
[02:02] <musya> wht do you tink about that?
[02:03] <specialbuddy> how do I get my task bar back?
[02:03] <goodthing> musya: depends, you can buy budget or go sky high in performence. But the model is good en performce better than other desktop cpu's currently...
[02:03] <weedar> So the remote desktop connection isn't vnc compatible?
[02:03] <goodthing> *and
[02:03] <weedar> What do I need to download? :)
[02:03] <Sanne> intelikey: well, my ~/.local/share/Trash is empty, so for me my method seems to work fine.
[02:03] <awilcox> specialbuddy: Is there a button that looks like "<" on the very bottom-right of your screen?
[02:04] <specialbuddy> awilcox I did xkill on it by accident
[02:04] <specialbuddy> so it's gone
[02:04] <marco_> hello,
[02:04] <marco_> someone speak spanish?
[02:04] <awilcox> specialbuddy oh, you can restart KDE
[02:04] <awilcox> !es | marco_
[02:04] <ubotu> marco_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:04] <jordo23> !java | jordo23
[02:04] <ubotu> jordo23: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:04] <specialbuddy> that will bring it back
[02:04] <specialbuddy> ?
[02:04] <awilcox> specialbuddy I believe so, it should
[02:04] <specialbuddy> thanks
[02:04] <specialbuddy> going to try that
[02:05] <awilcox> So how do I change my gateway IP using Kubuntu?  I don't care if it is through shell or GUI, I just need it changed now while I am still connected to IRC :x
[02:05] <goodthing> musya: intel vs amd for linux, well, i think that does not really matter. But that might change when you look at the chipsets which come with them, and to be honest i don't know much about that.
[02:06] <smaggard> i believe its /etc/network/interfaces
[02:06] <musya> k
[02:06] <musya> thanks
[02:06] <smaggard> yup
[02:06] <smaggard> its static right?
[02:06] <awilcox> musya: I find Intel and nForce chipsets easiest
[02:06] <awilcox> smaggard: yes static IP
[02:07] <awilcox> so I change in there and reboot?  or just /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[02:07] <intelikey> i think i got it.   as per howto prevent the use of trash: rm -fr ~/.trash ;touch ~/.trach  # seems to work if i'm not missing something.
[02:07] <musya> k
[02:07] <musya> thanks
[02:07] <intelikey> s/trash/local/g ^
[02:07] <Sanne> intelikey: ah, interesting
[02:08] <awilcox> smaggard: so I change in there and reboot?  or just /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[02:08] <smaggard> yeah
[02:09] <smaggard> u can do the networking restart and its the same as rebooting
[02:09] <specialbuddy> how can I make it so that the wireless comes up without a pass?
[02:09] <smaggard> comes up without a pass .. hmm
[02:10] <specialbuddy> do I have to add my name to that group if I want to use it without a pass
[02:10] <specialbuddy> password
[02:10] <smaggard> iunno.. hm
[02:11] <underdog5004> I've been streaming mp3's from my server for a while now, but when I tried to do it today, I got this message (and it's for all media, not just streamed, nor mp3's): No Plugin found to handly this resource.
[02:12] <underdog5004> a killall kaffeine doesn't work, rebooting doesn't work, and logging out/in doesn't work
[02:12] <underdog5004> actually, they all "work", but none solve my problem.
[02:13] <coach> I need to learn how to boot sabayon linux with Kubuntu, anyone know a source of info?
[02:14] <h3sp4wn> just use the chainloader method (2 copies of grub would be easiest)
[02:14] <christopher> what should I do if dis-upgrade reports a broken package
[02:14] <christopher> ?
[02:14] <coach> h3sp4wn: just google chainloader?
[02:15] <underdog5004> coach, just google dual-boot
[02:15] <underdog5004> coach, grup is a chainloader
[02:15] <coach> k
[02:15] <underdog5004> grub
[02:16] <h3sp4wn> don't install grub to the mbr (to the root partition instead) then chainloader it in the same way as the menu.lst example for windows
[02:16] <underdog5004> ok, never mind, looks like it is just a specific folder on my server...bummer
[02:16] <coach> basicly I am just going to install Kubuntu of free space then add it to grub, correct
[02:16] <intelikey> coach if you don't need to change the kernel just pivot_root into it.
[02:17] <coach> over my head
[02:17] <specialbuddy> does anyone know how to get wireless assistant to work without entering a password, or any other program that is better than this one
[02:18] <intelikey> specialbuddy have init start it for you.
[02:18] <specialbuddy> ok
[02:20] <coach> h3sp4wn: I already have sabayon installed, using Grub do I nee to install Grub again?
[02:20] <h3sp4wn> coach: Don't need to but it is easier to do so
[02:21] <intelikey> alternately you could add that command to the sudoers file    whoever ALL NOPASSWD :/path/filename   # just an example.
[02:21] <jordo23> Anyone ever install Teamspeak?
[02:22] <NightBird> does anyone know why on my system, the sound sometimes works and sometimes doesn't?
[02:22] <coach> h3sp4wn: I guess I'll just have to jump in, this is my expermintal HD anyway
[02:25] <smaggard> yay got it!!\bye
[02:25] <smaggard> g2g
[02:25] <smaggard> gettin the pizza :D
[02:25] <draik> How do I get k3b to burn the hidden files?
[02:25] <draik> I want to backup everything in my /home/user/* and got only the few files that are there and NOT hidden
[02:26] <draik> I want to burn everything to a DVD
[02:26] <leafw> anyone on a thinkpad? How can one disable bluetooth, infrared, and the USB system, dynamically when switching to battery mode?
[02:26] <draik> In total, I have 3.3 GB in /home/user/*
[02:26] <leafw> for thinkpad owners: is acpi or apm recommended? Looks like *both* are available
[02:27] <h3sp4wn> leafw: If acpi is working correctly use acpi
[02:27] <leafw> h3sp4wn : if I select from a menu "suspend", the laptop suspends; if I close the lid, it fails. It's all mamagd by acpi, I think.
[02:27] <leafw> and suspending takes for ever, like, 15 to 30 seconds
[02:28] <h3sp4wn> I would use suspend2
[02:28] <draik> leafw: How does Kubuntu look/function on a Thinkpad? I have been wanting to get one, but not sure yet. What is your opinion?
[02:28] <h3sp4wn> http://www.suspend2.net/
[02:29] <goodthing> draik: go in k3b to the home folder and right click in the files section, choose picture (translated, might be different in eng), show hidden files (add same note here).
[02:29] <leafw> draik : kubuntu looks and works just fine on the thinkpad
[02:29] <leafw> the only problem is the long suspend times
[02:29] <draik> Thank you goodthing
[02:30] <draik> leafw: I would use it for my messaging and such. I leave it on for extended periods of time.
[02:30] <leafw> even beryl/xgl works (byt xgl is buggy, grows in memory usage over time)
[02:30] <leafw> draik : I am a former owner of a powerbook for the last 4 years. I never rebooted my machine (like, once every 6 months or so, by a software update requirement)
[02:31] <leafw> so this inability to sleep/resume fast and reliably is very annoying for my style
[02:31] <leafw> now I have reliable suspend (at last) by disabling powernowd (the freq scaling daemon) before suspending, in a script.
[02:32] <draik> leafw: That is understandable. Unfortunately, I don't have an answer for you. I hope you find what you are looking for and are able to get the results you are looking for.\
[02:32] <leafw> draik : in the thinkwiki pages there is a lot of help and info, check them out
[02:32] <jordo23> Where do you setup a microphone with Kubuntu?
[02:32] <alex_> did anyone have any trouble with intel pro wireless? mine wasn't detected during setup
[02:33] <leafw> draik: it is unfortunate that suspend and battery usage time is so pitifull under linux, compared to osx or even M$
[02:34] <jarn> How do I mount a filesystem so that users can read it?
[02:34] <jarn> It has the users flag in fstab but I still can't read it.
[02:34] <jarn> It's an ntfs filesystem.
[02:34] <Hobbsee> !away | jarn
[02:34] <ubotu> jarn: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[02:35] <jarn> Oh, I'm sorry.
[02:35] <Minataku> Oh, come on, that's just asinine
[02:35] <Hobbsee> jarn: sudo chown user.user /mnt/windows - change where it's mounted, and your username
[02:35] <Minataku> user:group
[02:35] <Hobbsee> jarn: no problem :)
[02:35] <Minataku> Hobbsee: It's user:group
[02:36] <jarn> Hobbsee: Should I chown it before or after I mount it?
[02:36] <AxlRose> I need some help with the mplayer firefox plug in
[02:36] <AxlRose> I'm tryin to watch some trailers on Yahoo, and  I can only hear sound but no picture
[02:36] <Hobbsee> Minataku: that is true.  however, seeing as the group tends to be the user too...
[02:36] <Minataku> Since when?
[02:36] <Hobbsee> jarn: either.  probably before
[02:36] <Minataku> Is that an Ubuntu thing?
[02:37] <AxlRose> it says Mplayer Plugin, and it shows where the streaming is coming from
[02:37] <Hobbsee> Minataku: unlikely
[02:37] <jarn> Hobbsee: I still get permission denied.
[02:37] <Minataku> All my stuff is ed:users
[02:37] <Hobbsee> jarn: hrm
[02:42] <linuxfanstar> hey
[02:42] <linuxfanstar> how do i configure wifi in kubuntu
[02:43] <HymnToLife> !wireless | linuxfanstar
[02:43] <ubotu> linuxfanstar: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:43] <specialbuddy> what's a good way of setting up the programs that run during startup
[02:43] <linuxfanstar> thanks
[02:44] <draik>  goodthing, Do I want to "Follow link now" or "Add symbolic link to project"?
[02:45] <linuxfanstar> these documents are mostly for gnome
[02:46] <linuxfanstar> i know how to set it up in ubuntu
[02:46] <linuxfanstar> system, admin, networking
[02:46] <linuxfanstar> but that menu is not in kubuntu
[02:52] <linuxfanstar> hello can someone help me plz?
[02:55] <draik> specialbuddy: Add a link/shortcut to /home/username/.kde/Autostart/(app-link/shortcut)
[02:57] <foo> How do I select the clock to not be in 24 hour format?
[02:58] <goodthing> draik, well, add link will probably add the linked files, which i assume is not what you'd want. So i would /try/ the first option, but this is new for me too...
[02:58] <draik> goodthing: Ok. I will go with Follow link. Thank you for your assistance
[02:58] <goodthing> in that i never burned hidden folders in /home
[02:59] <goodthing> yw
[02:59] <alex_> does anyone have Intel 3945ABG wireless?
[02:59] <alex_> mine was detected during installation, but wasn't setup
[02:59] <alex_> how do I setup it up?
[03:00] <alex_> anyone?
[03:01] <jarn> What package is the equivalent of gtk-devel?
[03:01] <underdog5004> alex, I'd like to help you. Hold on whilst I google around.
[03:01] <jarn> Something I'm trying to compile to needs it and it's not in the repository.
[03:02] <jarn> Does it just have a different name now or do I need to enable a new repository.
[03:02] <alex_> ok, but google wasn't much of a friend this time
[03:02] <underdog5004> http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/ <== looks pretty good!
[03:02] <alex_> in fact, I found that someone with the same laptop as mine had it working "out of the box"
[03:03] <underdog5004> alex_, check out this site...   http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
[03:05] <alex_> and how do I install it?
[03:05] <alex_> compile?
[03:05] <alex_> :(
[03:05] <underdog5004> alex_, lol, gimme a sec
[03:06] <underdog5004> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/scripts-df-external/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=2259&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng&strOSs=39&submit=Go%21
[03:06] <underdog5004> readme: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/df-support/10315/ENG/Install_and_Support_Notes.txt
[03:07] <underdog5004> look good, alex_ ?
[03:08] <specialbuddy> how do I set up programs to run at start up
[03:08] <alex_> underdog5004: not really, I was hoping it would come with the distribution
[03:08] <alex_> underdog5004: or work out of the box
[03:08] <underdog5004> alex_, you're gonna have to get your hands dirty eventually...I'll walk you through it.
[03:09] <alex_> underdog5004: alright, so I need to get something else first according to the read me correct?
[03:10] <underdog5004> nope, just go to the first link, I think
[03:10] <underdog5004> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/scripts-df-external/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=2259&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng&strOSs=39&submit=Go%21
[03:11] <underdog5004> wait a sec, getting a better link
[03:11] <underdog5004> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/scripts-df-external/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http://downloadmirror.intel.com/df-support/10315/eng/ipw3945-linux-1.2.0.tgz&agr=&ProductID=2259&DwnldId=10315&strOSs=&OSFullName=&lang=eng
[03:11] <underdog5004> just click that to download the driver
[03:12] <alex_> ok
[03:12] <xurpasops> hehe
[03:12] <xurpasops> hello
[03:12] <glin> hehe
[03:12] <alex_> extracted
[03:12] <alex_> now what?
[03:12] <alex_> it says I need to go and get some subsystem
[03:12] <underdog5004> lol, downloading now...
[03:13] <Minataku> alex_: If it says something you don't understand, it's usually a good idea to tell us the whole thing
[03:13] <Minataku> lol
[03:13] <glin> hi people
[03:14] <Minataku> :3
[03:14] <alex_> First, we build and install the ieee80211 subsystem.  You can obtain
[03:14] <alex_> the latest ieee80211 subsystem from http://ieee80211.sf.net.
[03:14] <alex_> looks clear to me... I guess I should download it
[03:15] <Minataku> Go for it
[03:16] <underdog5004> alex_, I'm having trouble extracting the file...sorry. Hold on.
[03:17] <alex_> underdog5004: me too, it doesn't seem to work
[03:17] <alex_> underdog5004: I am using the one from SF.net
[03:18] <alex_> so far so good, "subsystem" is done with... moving on to the driver
[03:18] <alex_> wish me luck
[03:19] <underdog5004> d'l'ing the sf one now...
[03:20] <alex_> I am getting errors
[03:20] <alex_> :(
[03:20] <underdog5004> pastebin | alex_
[03:20] <alex_> !pastebin
[03:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:21] <specialbuddy> has anyone here got mtpdude to work with kubuntu
[03:21] <alex_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4054/
[03:21] <alex_> underdog5004: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4054/
[03:22] <alex_> that's after executing make in the driver directory
[03:22] <underdog5004> alex_, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-246655.html
[03:22] <underdog5004> he's got the same problem...not sure if it gets solved yet.
[03:23] <alex_> omg I can't believe this.... the suggestion is a full re-install
[03:23] <alex_> DAMN
[03:23] <underdog5004> we can make it work...patience
[03:23] <underdog5004> he was on dapper, not edgy..
[03:24] <Minataku> Yeah, relax
[03:25] <Minataku> There's always a way to fix things in Linux
[03:25] <Minataku> This isn't Windows anymore :D
[03:26] <underdog5004> reading...
[03:27] <alex_> well it says to do sudo make uninstall
[03:27] <alex_> I tried that, not sure if that did anything
[03:27] <underdog5004> alex_, there, at the bottom, when robinsingn  pops in, he gives the solution.
[03:27] <underdog5004> sudo make uninstallfrom within the tarball.
[03:27] <underdog5004> then he open synaptic, and installed the headers and image
[03:27] <alex_> underdog5004: yep
[03:27] <alex_> that's what I just did
[03:27] <intelikey> is there any way to read the file list from an un-fixiated data cd ?
[03:27] <underdog5004> sweet
[03:28] <alex_> underdog5004: hang on
[03:28] <Minataku> You actually read instructions and took initiative
[03:28] <Minataku> You deserve that trophy :D
[03:28] <alex_> LOL oh please... "monkey see, monkey do"
[03:28] <Minataku> lol
[03:28] <underdog5004> that's what's at the heart of the linux community
[03:28] <intelikey> monkeys ?
[03:29] <intelikey> :)
[03:29] <underdog5004> I think people get scared from seeing things like ieee80211 and ipw3945
[03:29] <Minataku> alex_: Except most of the time it's "monkey see, monkey get confused and ask stupid questions about the instructions right in front of them"
[03:29] <Minataku> XD
[03:29] <intelikey> monkeys are at the hart of the penguin community....
[03:29] <jjesse> can you setup kontact to access your google calendar?
[03:29] <alex_> lol
[03:29] <underdog5004> alex_, is it working?
[03:29] <Minataku> "Do I click OK now?"
[03:29] <intelikey> Minataku
[03:29] <specialbuddy> has anyone here got mtp to work with kubuntu?
[03:29] <Minataku> "It's the only damn button in the box! YES! CLICK IT!"
[03:30] <underdog5004> !mtp
[03:30] <intelikey> Minataku i'd say lol   but i'm laughing to hard to type it....
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <underdog5004> specialbuddy, what is mtp?
[03:30] <Minataku> intelikey: XD
[03:30] <underdog5004> alex_,  is your wireless working now?
[03:30] <specialbuddy> microsoft transfer protocol or something like that
[03:30] <specialbuddy> it's for mp3 devices
[03:30] <alex_> underdog5004: not yet, hang on
[03:30] <specialbuddy> like the iriver clix
[03:30] <Minataku> lol
[03:30] <underdog5004> clits?
[03:31] <Minataku> Language
[03:31] <Minataku> lol
[03:31] <underdog5004> oh...right, that's not subliminal at all...clix, clits, big difference
[03:31] <specialbuddy> umm...
[03:31] <Minataku> Like the Axe fragrance
[03:31] <underdog5004> specialbuddy, weird, never heard of a protocol for mp3 players
[03:31] <Minataku> Axe Clix smells good
[03:31] <underdog5004> Minataku, exactly.
[03:31] <Minataku> I have Axe Clix deoderant
[03:31] <specialbuddy> yeah
[03:32] <underdog5004> specialbuddy, and you can't access it as a mass-storage device?
[03:32] <Minataku> It was the first stick I saw in the University convience store
[03:32] <Minataku> lol
[03:32] <specialbuddy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol
[03:32] <Minataku> Turned out to be a really good random purchase
[03:32] <specialbuddy> not very easily
[03:32] <Minataku> specialbuddy: I think Amarok can do that
[03:33] <intelikey> it's not often i record a one liner from irc  but that one ranked the list.   tty4 [greg@~]  cat monkey-C
[03:33] <intelikey> in the kubuntu help channel most of the time it's "monkey see, monkey get confused and ask stupid questions"
[03:33] <Minataku> intelikey: Heehee ^^
[03:33] <intelikey> :)
[03:33] <Minataku> A friend of mine uses (I think it's) Amarok to send stuff to his MP3 player
[03:34] <underdog5004> there's another one...can't think of it though...
[03:34] <underdog5004> !ipod
[03:34] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[03:35] <crazy_bus> How do you download a .deb file from the ubuntu repo's to install on a computer without the internet (I need knetworkmanager) to get the internet working
[03:37] <alex_> underdog5004: nope, I still can't get it to work
[03:38] <alex_> I installed that netowkr manager, and yet the wireless assistant still doesn't see the controller
[03:38] <cpk1> crazy_bus: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:38] <intelikey> you can install it "and there by note the dependancies" then copy it from /var/cache/apt/archives crazy_bus
[03:38] <cpk1> crazy_bus: you will need to download the .deb of knetworkmanager and also all its dependencies if they arent already on the other computer
[03:38] <intelikey> along  with the deps.  ^
[03:39] <crazy_bus> where is the download for the .deb here? http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/source/knetworkmanager
[03:39] <N9NU-|-Linux> I switch from another distro and having trouble install with the GUI with Feisty Release 3. I am programmer and love to mess with code
[03:39] <crazy_bus> all I can see is the sources
[03:40] <intelikey> or you can wget it.  but i'd still sujest the apt-get
[03:40] <cpk1> crazy_bus: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/kde/knetworkmanager
[03:40] <cpk1> crazy_bus: there is a clicky at the top of the page you are at for the link i gave you =)
[03:40] <N9NU-|-Linux> its an AMD 64 4000 4GB nForce 4 mobo
[03:41] <crazy_bus> thanks cpk1
[03:41] <cpk1> crazy_bus: all the ones with a red circle you will need to make sure the computer you are installing this on has or you will need to download them too, it can start to get quite ugly though
[03:42] <alex_> underdog5004: lol, are you still there?
[03:42] <cpk1> crazy_bus: you shouldnt need knetworkmanager to use the internet
[03:42] <crazy_bus> I want to access wireless internet off the livecd to demonstrate it.  And unfortunatly the wireless manager won't work
[03:43] <cpk1> crazy_bus: use iwconfig
[03:43] <cpk1> thats the command line tool
[03:44] <Theory> crazy_bus: if you know the network details wireless manager should work in non-dhcp mode
[03:46] <N9NU-|-Linux> k
[03:46] <crazy_bus> I have never setup wireless with iwconfig before.  All I know is the wireless assistant installed by default isn't working for me
[03:46] <cpk1> crazy_bus: you can start by doing "iwlist scan" that will show you all the networks then you can use iwconfig to put in the necessary options
[03:47] <N9NU-|-Linux> anyohe have any howto or can point me to the right one
[03:47] <Minataku> iwconfig is easy
[03:47] <cpk1> N9NU-|-Linux: there is an ncurses installer too
[03:47] <cpk1> N9NU-|-Linux: its called the alternative installer
[03:48] <crazy_bus> how do you use iwconfig?  The network I'm trying to connect to has wpa-psk
[03:48] <N9NU-|-Linux> ohhh.. so that will ge me the GUI boot/install
[03:49] <Minataku> No
[03:49] <cpk1> N9NU-|-Linux: no, the alternative is the non gui
[03:49] <Minataku> ncurses is TUI
[03:49] <intelikey> huston  we have a problem.
[03:49] <Minataku> Text User Interface
[03:50] <Minataku> It's a compromise between GUI and CLI
[03:50] <N9NU-|-Linux> so kubuntu doesnt have one like Mandriva then
[03:50] <goodthing> just curious, how would a distro builder know what the license of an application should be?
[03:50] <N9NU-|-Linux> thats ok...i definately live via CLI
[03:51] <intelikey> i've got a file i own  in my home dir that i'm editing and i can't save the changes.   so i switch consoles and chmod the thing 644   that should work right ?
[03:51] <goodthing> is there any official wat in that?
[03:51] <Minataku> goodthing: Ask the application developer or check the primary site
[03:51] <Minataku> Or even just check the distribution tarball
[03:51] <intelikey> wrong!  so i chmod it as root    that should work right?
[03:51] <Minataku> The license should be included or listed
[03:51] <underdog5004> alex_, I'm away.
[03:51] <Minataku> intelikey: Yeah, it should
[03:51] <alex_> underdog5004: ok
[03:51] <alex_> :D
[03:52] <cpk1> crazy_bus: hrmm I dont really have much experience with wpa or anything but you could try iwconfig wlan0 (or whatever interface) key passkeyhere although I think it might only take hexadigital
[03:52] <intelikey> wrong again.   even root can't chmod the thing.   it can't be +i i just copied it there from a cd....
[03:52] <N9NU-|-Linux> guess i got spoiled with a fully graphic install
[03:52] <N9NU-|-Linux> no prob
[03:52] <Minataku> sudo chmod 744 file
[03:52] <N9NU-|-Linux> tnx
[03:52] <Minataku> N9NU-|-Linux: TUI isn't bad
[03:52] <intelikey> -r--r--r-- 1 greg root 19491 Jan 17 01:04 Wed_Jan_17_2007.list
[03:52] <Minataku> Try it
[03:52] <cpk1> crazy_bus: iwconfig eth0 key s:password like that actually for passkeys
[03:52] <intelikey> that's the perms on it.
[03:52] <N9NU-|-Linux> ok will do
[03:52] <Minataku> intelikey: So it's 444
[03:52] <intelikey> no matter what i do.
[03:52] <intelikey> yep
[03:53] <Minataku> Change it to 744, if that fails, something is wrong
[03:53] <intelikey> tty3 [greg@~]  chmod 666 Wed_Jan_17_2007.list
[03:53] <intelikey> tty3 [greg@~]  ls -l Wed_Jan_17_2007.list
[03:53] <intelikey> -rw-rw-rw- 1 greg root 19491 Jan 17 01:04 Wed_Jan_17_2007.list
[03:53] <Minataku> 666 not good
[03:53] <cpk1> N9NU-|-Linux: keep in mind that fiesty is in alpha still so maybe you should think about letting them know there are problems with the graphical isntaller
[03:53] <intelikey> i try to save and
[03:53] <intelikey> -r--r--r-- 1 greg root 19491 Jan 17 01:04 Wed_Jan_17_2007.list
[03:53] <goodthing> Minataku: yeah that was what i thought, but that does not make the move of novell proper when they list/make a GPL-ed program  LGPL. That IMO is, well, wrong.
[03:53] <Minataku> intelikey: I guess it won't work then
[03:53] <Minataku> Kill the file
[03:54] <N9NU-|-Linux> ok... i live for cutting edge and i have several machines setup to compare distros
[03:54] <crazy_bus> I typed sudo iwconfig ath0 key s:mypassword
[03:54] <N9NU-|-Linux> its fun
[03:54] <intelikey> heh.  yeah.  that's the first time i have ever seen an editor chmod a file......
[03:54] <Minataku> goodthing: If it's their code they're entitled to relicense as they please... of course it's our right to fork from the last old license point
[03:54] <Minataku> intelikey: It's probably locked
[03:54] <crazy_bus> I typed that and it didn't come up with any errors.  But the internet still wont work
[03:55] <goodthing> Minataku: myeah but it's horrible, does not follow up with the normal ethics...
[03:55] <Minataku> Of course it doesn't
[03:55] <Minataku> lol
[03:56] <intelikey> i just saved as filename+1 chmoded the origenal and tried to save as filename   still cant.
[03:57] <intelikey> tty3 [greg@~]  lsattr Wed_Jan_17_2007.list
[03:57] <intelikey> ----------------- Wed_Jan_17_2007.list
[03:57] <goodthing> well, makes me aware it's good i use kubuntu :)
[03:57] <intelikey> it's immutable but no +i bet set.
[03:57] <intelikey> Minataku locked by ?
[03:58] <Minataku> The editor
[03:58] <intelikey> i closed the editor
[03:59] <intelikey> i just coppied the filename+1 over the filename and opened it agan and can save it.....
[03:59] <Telroth> can someone help me with kernel booting problems? My system refused to boot after a hardware upgrade and even the lilvecd isn't loading. The kernel simiply hangs while booting up
[03:59] <intelikey> makes no sense to me at all.
[03:59] <Minataku> intelikey: Bizarre
[03:59] <intelikey> monkey get confused and ask stupid questions.....
[03:59] <Minataku> lol
[03:59] <intelikey> look for man in big yellow hat....
[04:00] <Minataku> Poop in hat
[04:00] <Minataku> As monkeys are inclined to do
[04:00] <Minataku> XD
[04:00] <intelikey> referanced "curious george"
[04:00] <Minataku> I know
[04:00] <Minataku> X3
[04:01] <Minataku> Telroth: Remove the new hardware if possible
[04:02] <Minataku> Replace with old or leave out if possible
[04:02] <Telroth> eh
[04:02] <Minataku> Then test booting
[04:02] <Telroth> new hardware = new processor, motherboard, graphics card, and ram
[04:02] <Minataku> Telroth: Is it passing POST?
[04:02] <Telroth> windows boots fine
[04:02] <Telroth> so does knoppix 4.0
[04:02] <Minataku> Hm
[04:02] <Minataku> Where does the kernel hang at?
[04:02] <Telroth> it's complaining about my cd drive being "confused"
[04:03] <Telroth> almost instantly
[04:03] <Minataku> Can you 10-finger dump the error?
[04:03] <Telroth> i'll try
[04:03] <crazy_bus> Does  sudo iwconfig ath0 key s:mypassword automaticaly connect you?  Because I typed it but the internet still doesn't work in konqueror
[04:03] <Minataku> Coo
[04:03] <intelikey> that was more different than it was anything else...   but i got it changed finally.   i guess the editor was chmoding it back each time i'd try to save it....
[04:03] <Telroth> linky to pastebin?
[04:03] <Minataku> crazy_bus: Negative, it only puts in the key
[04:03] <intelikey> pastebin.ca
[04:03] <Minataku> intelikey: Perhaps
[04:03] <Minataku> Telroth: Yeah
[04:03] <crazy_bus> what should I do next?
[04:04] <Minataku> crazy_bus: Is it all set up properly?
[04:04] <crazy_bus> I don't know.  I typed in that command and no errors came up
[04:04] <Minataku> If everything is set correctly, use ifconfig to bring the interface down then back up
[04:05] <crazy_bus> what do I do after running ifconfig?
[04:05] <Minataku> It should be working
[04:06] <crazy_bus> It comes up with lots of details but the internet isn't working?
[04:07] <Minataku> crazy_bus: ifconfig down ath0
[04:07] <Minataku> Then
[04:07] <Minataku> ifconfig up ath0
[04:07] <Minataku> Try that
[04:07] <crazy_bus> It tells me ath0: Host name lookup failure
[04:07] <Minataku> Damn... wait... maybe that means that wireless is connected
[04:07] <Minataku> lol
[04:08] <Minataku> dmesg | tail
[04:08] <Minataku> Tell me if it says "Connected [0001] "
[04:08] <Minataku> Or summat
[04:08] <crazy_bus> how do you do that line between dmesg and tail?
[04:08] <crazy_bus> never mind
[04:08] <Minataku> Heehee
[04:09] <crazy_bus> it tells me:  ath0: no IPv6 routers present
[04:09] <Minataku> O.o
[04:10] <intelikey> crazy_bus that "line" is called "pipe"
[04:10] <Minataku> I believe I am stumped, sorry, crazy_bus
[04:10] <crazy_bus> I'll just install knetwork manager then :)
[04:10] <Minataku> intelikey: Just pull your damn pants up before you bend over again
[04:10] <intelikey> that wasn't me...
[04:10] <Minataku> lol
[04:11] <Minataku> Plumber jokes XD
[04:11] <Minataku> Old but still kinda funny
[04:11] <Minataku> Sorry X3
[04:11] <Minataku> rofl
[04:11] <the_hammer> hi all
[04:11] <Minataku> STOP
[04:11] <Minataku> Hammertime
[04:11] <the_hammer> pls tell me theres alot of wireless users here
[04:11] <the_hammer> lol hammer time
[04:11] <Minataku> Sorry, couldn't resist XD
[04:11] <the_hammer> its all good :)
[04:12] <Telroth> Minataku: http://pastebin.ca/339480
[04:12] <Minataku> the_hammer: So what's your wireless issue?
[04:12] <theline> HI! Can anyone help with OO Print problem?
[04:12] <the_hammer> http://pastebin.ca/339040
[04:12] <the_hammer> i reinstalled kubuntu 610 moments ago havbent ran apt-update and all that yet
[04:12] <the_hammer> lappy just sittin beside me while i take a breather before i kick it to mars
[04:13] <Telroth> Minataku, i ejected the cd so that it wouldn't scroll the screen while i was typing, however, if left in the drive, the hda/hdb errors along with the irq #50 errors simply repeat over and over about every 45 seconds
[04:13] <the_hammer> i got 2 internets on it high speed built in and of course the wonderfull headache wireless pcmia card
[04:14] <theline> Can anyone help with OO Print problem?
[04:14] <Minataku> Telroth: Hm... you have a drive configuration issue I think
[04:14] <Minataku> http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/7/29/318
[04:14] <Telroth> Minataku, how would I go about solving that? Both drives work fine in windows, but I know that doesn't help me or you much
[04:14] <Minataku> The reply to that... does that match your issue?
[04:15] <Minataku> Mixed SATA/PATA?
[04:15] <Telroth> Minataku, 1 sata harddrive, 1 pata harddrive, two pata dvd rom drives
[04:15] <Telroth> the dvd roms are on the promary controller
[04:15] <Telroth> pata harddrive is on secondary
[04:15] <Telroth> brb, looking at link
[04:16] <Telroth> *primary
[04:16] <Minataku> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-226277.html <<<<<< !!!
[04:16] <Minataku> See if that has anything
[04:16] <Minataku> I read the first line of the first post (and that's all I read)
[04:16] <Minataku> XD
[04:16] <Minataku> But it was a likely match
[04:16] <Telroth> hmm
[04:16] <Telroth> let me disable sata enhanced mode :)
[04:17] <Minataku> Yeah, that might be faster than upgrading the BIOS
[04:17] <the_hammer> no one can help me with my wireless eh?
[04:17] <Minataku> Which appears to be the solution of that second link XD
[04:17] <Minataku> the_hammer: Sorry, I was taking care of Telroth first
[04:17] <Dr_willis> the_hammer,  after the disasters ive had with wireless... i advise using a HAMMER!
[04:17] <the_hammer> np
[04:17] <the_hammer> lol
[04:17] <intelikey> !wifi | the_hammer
[04:17] <ubotu> the_hammer: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:18] <the_hammer> i been through there and was lost
[04:18] <Dr_willis> had a windows box today.. wirelesswas working all day on it.. then Suddendly! it decided it dident want to connect/get the ip/dns any more...
[04:18] <the_hammer> joy
[04:18] <Dr_willis> got mad - so i crawled under the house and ran wires.
[04:18] <Minataku> Oh dear, that pastebin is a mess
[04:18] <Minataku> Sorry, the_hammer, I can't use that input :(
[04:19] <theline> anyone know about openoffice print problems
[04:19] <the_hammer> well im willing to try something else i reinstalled kubuntu as i said havent even ran any updates so its 100% fresh
[04:19] <Minataku> theline: I'm banking that it's not OOo with the problem
[04:19] <Minataku> the_hammer: Perhaps that's why
[04:19] <theline> all other aps print fine
[04:20] <Minataku> Wire it up and run the updates, perhaps your old installation used ndiswrapper
[04:20] <theline> OO recognizes printer and prints test page from spadmin
[04:20] <Minataku> theline: Hm... weird
[04:20] <dbglt_> is there a way to record output from amarok/from the soundcard?
[04:20] <the_hammer> i plan to run the updates but thought id see if i can find solutions or help before i started cuz if not i think ill try again tomorrow or something
[04:21] <Minataku> dbglt_: Good question
[04:21] <intelikey> dbglt_ yes.    and now get all your warez from <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:21] <darthdual> Anybody, What would you rather use; sun Java Plugin or GCJ Plugin?
[04:21] <Minataku> intelikey: Hey now
[04:21] <theline> Print button says no link to printer... but preview recognizes my printer
[04:22] <dbglt_> intelikey: most amusing. My friend is performing on a stream, and I'd like to record it. Thank you for your rudeness.
[04:22] <intelikey> you're welcome.
[04:22] <darthdual> What' up Minataku, Not railing on Mac today huh?
[04:22] <Minataku> dbglt_: There might well be a way, but I don't know
[04:22] <intelikey> open audacity and start recording....
[04:22] <Minataku> darthdual: I did that earlier elsewhere
[04:23] <Minataku> lol
[04:23] <dbglt_> Minataku: I know there should be a way to pipe output from the soundcard
[04:23] <dbglt_> audacity uses oss, no?
[04:23] <dbglt_> using alsa here
[04:23] <darthdual> I thought you probably did.......hehe
[04:23] <Minataku> Never use just one
[04:23] <dbglt_> or else I can change applications
[04:23] <dbglt_> I think vlc or xine-ui might support recording
[04:23] <Minataku> I compile my kernels with ALSA + OSS Emulation Layer
[04:23] <antibody> hi all...my NetworkManager doesn't come in the tray anymore ...
[04:23] <antibody> why?
[04:23] <intelikey> install sox and type in   man rec
[04:24] <dbglt_> Minataku: I'm using the supplied kubuntu kernel
[04:24] <OlgaB> bbl
[04:24] <Minataku> dbglt_: The fact that it uses ALSA only is a confounding mistake
[04:24] <dbglt_> ah
[04:24] <dbglt_> I'm not sure it uses alsa only. I just assumed
[04:24] <Minataku> dbglt_: Look for /dev/dsp
[04:25] <darthdual> Anyone have any opinions on which java plugin is the best to use for minimal errors.
[04:25] <Minataku> If it exists, it's ALSA + ALSA_OSS
[04:25] <Minataku> darthdual: Sun
[04:25] <antibody> :(
[04:25] <Minataku> Get it from the source
[04:25] <darthdual> What about GCJ, is that one any good?
[04:25] <antibody> no help for me?
[04:25] <dbglt_> Minataku: the device is there, cheers :)
[04:25] <Telroth> darthdual, the one from sun is best
[04:25] <antibody> _NetworkManagerDispatcher is the user daemon right?
[04:25] <Minataku> dbglt_: Good, Kubuntu isn't lame then
[04:25] <Minataku> lol
[04:25] <Telroth> darthdual, apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[04:26] <darthdual> cool, I fugured it was.
[04:26] <Telroth> darthdual, make sure you hav emultiverse enabled
[04:26] <Telroth> *multiverse
[04:26] <Minataku> antibody: I cannot assist you, sorry
[04:26] <Eruantalon> How do I update from edgy to feisty with the alternate cd?
[04:26] <Minataku> Eruantalon: Carefully ;3
[04:26] <intelikey> antibody beets the monkey off my back too.....
[04:26] <dbglt_> Minataku: I was under the impression that OSS was deprecated?
[04:27] <Minataku> dbglt_: It is, but ALSA provides emulation
[04:27] <antibody> :(
[04:27] <antibody> damn
[04:27] <dbglt_> Minataku: legacy support?
[04:27] <Minataku> dbglt_: Backwards compatibility
[04:27] <Minataku> :3
[04:27] <intelikey> only answered so you would know your weren't being ignored.
[04:27] <dbglt_> ;)
[04:27] <Minataku> Same deal as intelikey here
[04:27] <Telroth> Minataku, thanks, that took care of hda/hdb problems, although kernel still hangs, complaining about IRQ #66 now instead of IRQ #50,  usb error still stands, and i have a pair of usb over-current errors now
[04:28] <Eruantalon> !feisty
[04:28] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:28] <Minataku> Telroth: Too many devices on USB bus
[04:28] <dbglt_> antibody: tried killing it and relaunching?
[04:28] <dbglt_> antibody: knetworkmanager?
[04:28] <Minataku> If there are none, check for a short
[04:28] <antibody> dbglt_, yep
[04:28] <antibody> no
[04:28] <antibody> NetworkManager
[04:28] <antibody> and dispatcher
[04:28] <Telroth> Minataku, everything is plugged directly into my mobo except for my mouse, which plugs into my keyboard - also, windows didn't throw any usb errors :/
[04:29] <Minataku> Windows keeps everything to itself
[04:29] <N9NU-|-Linux> another thing i see, is this partioning program ...hmm.. whats the best way to go. I have these options: 1. Guided and manual, HOWEVER, it seems that i end up going in cirlces with either. I have 3 SATA drives (not raid) and i think it sees one of them with a corrupt partition....i never see the options to: delete, renam, etc
[04:29] <Minataku> Windows wouldn't tell you even if the damn thing was on fire
[04:29] <Minataku> You'd have to wait for the smoke before you knew
[04:29] <N9NU-|-Linux> i will run partition magin now
[04:29] <Telroth> actually, it does complain about over-current
[04:29] <Telroth> anyways
[04:29] <Minataku> lol
[04:29] <antibody> dbglt_, I used to use gnome(ubuntu) but karamba make my final appeal :D
[04:29] <Telroth> cd just stareted doing stuff
[04:29] <Minataku> Telroth: Check for a short
[04:29] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I'm trying to record some video with my webcam and some audio with my microphone.  I'm using mencoder for this.  I've looked on the Kubuntu website and have tried a command shown there.  I can't seem to record my microphone, though.  Any ideas?
[04:29] <Eruantalon> Minataku: Where is the documentation for updating to feisty?
[04:29] <antibody> made*
[04:29] <Minataku> Short circuit, that is
[04:29] <antibody> damn..it was working
[04:30] <intelikey> and if you let the smode out it wont work no more.
[04:30] <Minataku> Look for shards of metal or whatnot that may have gotten onto the board or into the sockets
[04:30] <intelikey> smoke
[04:30] <Minataku> After that, go kick the ass of the guy who sold it to you/put it together
[04:30] <Telroth> Minataku, cd spun up after about 10 minutes, screen went black
[04:30] <Telroth> Minataku, i put it together myself
[04:30] <Telroth> and haven't had any trouble with it except for kubuntu ;)
[04:31] <Minataku> Telroth: Start doing some yoga
[04:31] <Minataku> XD
[04:31] <Telroth> windows, knoppix, everything else works like a charm :P
[04:31] <Minataku> That is kinda bizarre
[04:31] <Minataku> I'd look into the USB overcurrent ASAP though
[04:31] <Minataku> Seriously, check for any obvious short circuits
[04:31] <intelikey> Telroth so use knoppix,
[04:32] <Telroth> intelikey, ubuntu has better repos
[04:32] <Telroth> and the system is configured better :)
[04:32] <intelikey> not if it don't work
[04:32] <Minataku> Uh oh
[04:32] <Hobbsee> Eruantalon: you dont want to upgrade.
[04:32] <Minataku> Audacious exploded
[04:32] <Eruantalon> Hobbsee: Yes I do. Talked to a guy in #ubuntu-kernel :-)
[04:33] <Minataku> Hm
[04:33] <Telroth> ten freaking minutes to boot a system
[04:33] <Minataku> !catchsegv
[04:33] <intelikey> just install the feisty kernel
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about catchsegv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <Minataku> :O
[04:33] <Minataku> That's a damn Debian tool
[04:33] <Telroth> at least it finally came up
[04:34] <Hobbsee> !upgrade
[04:34] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:34] <Hobbsee> Eruantalon: ^
[04:34] <Hobbsee> Eruantalon: which guy?
[04:34] <Hobbsee> Eruantalon: you know it's still rather buggy?
[04:34] <Eruantalon> ben_c
[04:34] <Hobbsee> ah, okay
[04:34] <Minataku> Oh, I was wrong
[04:35] <Minataku> Musta been thinking of something else
[04:35] <Minataku> !find segv
[04:35] <Eruantalon> He said that upgrading to the feisty kernel was almost getting all of the major things of feisty anyway
[04:35] <ubotu> Found: libsigsegv-dev
[04:35] <Minataku> !libsigsegv-dev
[04:35] <ubotu> libsigsegv-dev: Library for handling page faults in a portable way. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4-1 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 84 kB
[04:35] <Minataku> SIGSEGV is not a Page Fault
[04:35] <Minataku> It's a Segmentation Fault >:(
[04:35] <intelikey> go kick so but off....
[04:36] <Hobbsee> Eruantalon: true.  along with other bugs though.  the rule of "dont upgrade your production system to a development release" applies - dual boot is better, if you can
[04:36] <intelikey> they will have nothing to sit on when Minataku gets through with them...
[04:36] <Minataku> lol
[04:36] <Eruantalon> Hobbsee: I need ivtv and feisty is the way to get it
[04:37] <Eruantalon> Hobbsee: Besides I am not producing anything
[04:37] <Hobbsee> Eruantalon: fair enough
[04:37] <Minataku> Hobbsee: How about we dispense with the warnings and help instead
[04:37] <Minataku> lol
[04:37] <Eruantalon> :-D
[04:37] <Hobbsee> Minataku: because i've seen some people attempt to run feisty.  teh forums are full of them.
[04:37] <Eruantalon> I apreciate that you cant know how much time i spent deciding this :-)
[04:37] <Hobbsee> besides, i found the page :)
[04:37] <Minataku> lol
[04:38] <Hobbsee> Eruantalon: change all the "edgy" in /etc/apt/sources.list to "feisty" update, and dist-upgrade.  keep doing it until it's all upgraded
[04:38] <Minataku> I've had little issues when upgrading kernels... of course on Gentoo it's very straightforward and easy
[04:38] <Hobbsee> Minataku: kernels + gcc + libc6 + all the other toolchain stuff?
[04:38] <Eruantalon> As I said i downloaded the alternate cd because I was told that you could upgrade with that
[04:39] <intelikey> Eruantalon run  " sed 's/edgy/feisty/g' /etc/apt/sources.list | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list ;sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  "
[04:39] <Hobbsee> Eruantalon: ah yes.  sudo apt-cdrom add, then update
[04:39] <Minataku> Hobbsee: Since when? Just drop in a new kernel
[04:39] <intelikey> if you are serious about upgrading ^
[04:39] <Hobbsee> what intelikey said.  but add the cdrom into the sources list first
[04:39] <Minataku> Like I said, it's far more straightforward and easy on Gentoo
[04:39] <antibody> dbglt_, :/
[04:39] <antibody> knetworkmanager should be in trayicon?
[04:39] <intelikey> yes add the cd first.
[04:39] <Hobbsee> Minataku: yes, but each ubuntu release is not just a kernel update, right?
[04:40] <dbglt_> antibody: aye
[04:40] <intelikey> Hobbsee right.
[04:40] <dwarner> Hello -- I just installed eclipse-gcj in Edgy, and I can't find how to run it.  I mismounted the front-usb ports!
[04:40] <Minataku> And PIA doesn't stand for Peripheral Interface Adapter
[04:40] <antibody_> knetworkmanager should be in trayicon?
[04:40] <Minataku> If you know what I mean
[04:41] <antibody_> NetworkManager is running
[04:41] <Minataku> Telroth: That'll do it
[04:41] <Hobbsee> Minataku: of course.  which is why there are dist-upgrades.
[04:41] <antibody_> but I have no way to interact with it?
[04:41] <Telroth> Minataku, got i hope i didn't damage my $200 mobo :(
[04:41] <Minataku> Hobbsee: Why can't it be nice and easy? I configure, compile and drop
[04:41] <intelikey> python information archive Minataku ?
[04:41] <Hobbsee> antibody_: it should be.
[04:41] <intelikey> :)
[04:41] <Minataku> Telroth: Probably not
[04:41] <Hobbsee> Minataku: compiling a new kernel is not "easy"
[04:41] <Minataku> It detected the overcurrent and probably shut the ports down
[04:41] <Minataku> Hobbsee: Yeah it is
[04:42] <Hobbsee> you have an odd definition of easy
[04:42] <antibody_> Hobbsee, :(
[04:42] <Hobbsee> neither is compiling it
[04:42] <Minataku> Hobbsee: Rather, I know precisely how to do it
[04:42] <intelikey> Hobbsee it's pretty easy.  i compiled my first kernel on dapper.
[04:42] <Hobbsee> Minataku: yes, but new users dont.
[04:42] <Minataku> It IS easy, though
[04:42] <Minataku> And IMO, fun
[04:42] <dbglt_> easy just depends on your target audience
[04:42] <surgy> is feisty going to have any good changes? i mean good by not just a bunch of security bs?
[04:42] <Minataku> I love seeing what the new goodies are while I configure it :D
[04:42] <dbglt_> surgy: a few little ones, perhaps
[04:43] <Eruantalon> So... add the cd and then run the intelikey command. That will make sure that the cdrom is used before the net connection?
[04:43] <Hobbsee> Eruantalon: yeah.
[04:43] <trappist> surgy: my favorite one so far is the lowlatency kernel in universe
[04:43] <Minataku> It's as easy as "make menuconfig && make all && make modules_install && make install" then updating grub.conf
[04:43] <Hobbsee> Minataku: why are you running kubuntu, if you like updating kernels, etc?
[04:43] <Minataku> I'm not
[04:43] <Minataku> I'm a Gentoo user
[04:43] <Minataku> lol
[04:43] <Minataku> I'm just here to lend a hand
[04:44] <Minataku> I was lured in by promises of free swag ;3
[04:44] <intelikey> surgy probably nothing "major"   major changes come at end of cycle.  that was dapper/edgy change over.  next is almost a year away.
[04:44] <Telroth> Minataku, kernel still hangs, but no usb over-current errors :D
[04:44] <Hobbsee> Minataku: didnt think so.
[04:44] <Hobbsee> Minataku: free swag?
[04:44] <Minataku> Telroth: Heehee, one more problem down is still one more problem down :D
[04:45] <Minataku> Hobbsee: genii's workplace was gonna trash some Sun kit
[04:45] <server_> hey guys
[04:45] <Minataku> So I swooped in to grab it up instead
[04:45] <Minataku> Then I decided to stay and help out
[04:46] <Minataku> I just don't like how simplification ends up making advanced tasks near impossible
[04:46] <Minataku> Protect the user, punish the administrator
[04:46] <surgy> intelikey: kewl thnx
[04:46] <Minataku> That's Windows philosophy
[04:46] <one> is there something with a gui for kubuntu like daemon tools in window sfor mounting *.bin images ???
[04:46] <Minataku> !iso | one
[04:46] <ubotu> one: To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[04:47] <intelikey> Minataku yeah that ^
[04:47] <Telroth> Minataku, i agree, but that's one thing i've come to like about ubuntu, it allows advanced stuff but will wrap it up and a pretty gui when you need it
[04:47] <Minataku> Telroth: Actually the issue is that it DOESN'T allow advanced stuff
[04:47] <one> thx i try it also with a script but dont works ;_(
[04:47] <Telroth> Minataku, example?
[04:47] <Minataku> Managing software manually confuses the hell out of apt
[04:47] <one> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[04:47] <one>        missing codepage or other error
[04:47] <one>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[04:47] <one>        dmesg | tail  or so
[04:48] <trappist> Minataku: what does ubuntu take away in the name of simplification?
[04:48] <Minataku> Managing software manually confuses the hell out of apt and is highly discouraged <<<<<
[04:48] <intelikey> Minataku it does.  you just have to roll you sleves up and crawl into the box....
[04:48] <Telroth> Minataku, that's why you use Kompile - it builds the software with your specifications, then packs it up nicely in a .deb :)
[04:48] <Minataku> Telroth: There's the rub
[04:48] <Minataku> That's more complicated than "make && sudo make install"
[04:48] <one> is there nothing with a gui ?? ;_(
[04:49] <Minataku> one: Type "file -zrk filename.iso"
[04:49] <Minataku> Tell me what it says
[04:49] <Telroth> right-click on a .tar.gz -> build as .deb & install seems just as easy :)
[04:49] <trappist> Minataku: it doesn't take anything away from you.  you can install software that way, but as with *any* package management system, it's better to make a package or find another way to stay within the package management system.
[04:49] <one> its not a iso its a bin file
[04:49] <Minataku> one: THERE WE GO
[04:49] <one> it says data
[04:49] <Minataku> It's not a pure ISO
[04:49] <trappist> one: convert it to iso with bchunk
[04:49] <Minataku> It needs to be converted
[04:49] <Telroth> Minataku, he said that earlier :P
[04:50] <Minataku> He did?
[04:50] <Minataku> I was probably too busy talking to YOU, Telroth
[04:50] <one> i told yoou in my first question its a bin image
[04:50] <one> *G*
[04:50] <Minataku> Therefore I blame you
[04:50] <Minataku> XD
[04:50] <Telroth> [21:46:40]  <one> is there something with a gui for kubuntu like daemon tools in window sfor mounting *.bin images ???
[04:50] <Minataku> Sorry, one
[04:50] <Telroth> lol
[04:50] <Minataku> My bad XD
[04:50] <intelikey> Minataku or there is the other alternative.  you can remove dpkg from the system and go source only...
[04:50] <Minataku> But yeah, you have to convert it first
[04:50] <one> what about a answer is there anything = *G*
[04:50] <one> argh it all so complicated ;-(
[04:50] <Minataku> one: It's far easier to mount it manually
[04:51] <trappist> one: yes, convert it with bchunk
[04:51] <Minataku> Plus it gets you experience with the CLI
[04:51] <Minataku> Which is very nice
[04:51] <Minataku> Trust me
[04:51] <Minataku> :3
[04:51] <one> but there are 3 cd images , its reason a ausio programm vfor windows and i hope it will works via wine ;-(
[04:51] <Telroth> CLI is AWeSoMe!
[04:51] <Minataku> I do ALL my file management via the CLI
[04:51] <Minataku> Literally all of it
[04:52] <Minataku> I have NO GUI file manager
[04:52] <trappist> one: I got an old version of reason working in an old version of wine, so I'd say your chances are pretty good
[04:52] <Minataku> It depends on the stale version of WINE your edition of Ubuntu is running
[04:52] <cpk1> one: you need bchunk
[04:52] <one> trappist i need / i wanna the 3.0 reason tu run, sucks to change os every time ;-)
[04:52] <Telroth> yay, 10-minute boot sequences
[04:52] <one> then convert all 3 images with bchunk then mount via console
[04:53] <trappist> one: yep
[04:53] <one> and then isntall with wine and it will works probalby ? *G
[04:53] <trappist> that's the idea
[04:53] <cpk1> yeah and hope wine is able to handle the multi cd install
[04:53] <trappist> cedega can do that no problem :)
[04:53] <Minataku> one: If you've been good so far this year and your chi is in the house of ying-yang
[04:53] <Telroth> cedega != wine ;)
[04:53] <Minataku> XD
[04:53] <Minataku> j/k
[04:53] <cpk1> yes but maybe he doesnt want to pay or break the law
[04:53] <one> and hop reason if it works could access my audio samples on another harddisk *G*
[04:54] <Minataku> It may or may not work
[04:54] <Minataku> If it doesn't
[04:54] <trappist> Telroth: cedega is wine... just sorta, wine on steroids
[04:54] <Minataku> !audacity
[04:54] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB
 one: If you've been good so far this year and your chi is in the house of ying-yang
[04:54] <Telroth> trappist, expensive steroids
[04:54] <one> wtf ?
[04:54] <Minataku> one: Sorry, lame joke
[04:54] <trappist> Telroth: $15 isn't expensive :)
[04:54] <one> lol i know audacity buts thats just a audio editor
[04:54] <Minataku> It's a full featured audio thingy
[04:54] <jmichaelx> isn't cedega a subscription service?
[04:55] <one> its a audioeditor!
[04:55] <Telroth> trappist, to someone who gets christmas and birthday as his sole sources of income, and has already blow it all on $1000 of new hardware, $15 is a lot :)
[04:55] <Minataku> I made all my later phone recordings with it
[04:55] <intelikey> full featured?
[04:55] <Minataku> The early ones were done with SNDREC32.EXE
[04:55] <Minataku> <.<
[04:55] <cpk1> $15 a month
[04:55] <one> look at reason its a virtual rack with sampler , synthies, drummachines effekts aso
[04:55] <jmichaelx> too much for me....
[04:55] <trappist> cpk1: $5 a month, 3 month minimum
[04:55] <cpk1> o
[04:55] <Telroth> if i had $15 to spare, i'd be playing horizons
[04:56] <jmichaelx> i'm glad i'm not a gamer lol
[04:56] <trappist> and anyway, you can get the cedega source for free and build it yourself.  you'll just be lacking things like safedisc support
[04:56] <Minataku> lol
[04:56] <Minataku> jmichaelx: You're not anything right now thanks to beryl
[04:56] <Telroth> trappist, and directx drivers?
[04:56] <Minataku> XD
[04:56] <trappist> Telroth: all there
[04:56] <Telroth> those are kinda ya know... important?
[04:56] <Telroth> trappist, if they are, why is wine having to write their own?
[04:56] <jmichaelx> Minataku: naaaa, back up and running :-D
[04:56] <Minataku> Sorry, I hope you don't take offense to that
[04:57] <trappist> Telroth: they can't release the safedisc source, as they have it under license
[04:57] <Minataku> Ah! Excellent! :D
[04:57] <jmichaelx> ty ty
[04:57] <jmichaelx> Minataku: no offence lol
[04:57] <Minataku> I'm a retrogamer
[04:57] <Telroth> trappist, that's understandable, i'm referring to the directx thought
[04:57] <trappist> Telroth: cedega donates code back to the wine project.  a lot of the winehq directx stuff is word done by transgaming.
[04:57] <intelikey> trappist that doesn't explain the xd Q
[04:57] <Minataku> All my PC games are emulated
[04:57] <intelikey> dx
[04:57] <Minataku> dx/dy
[04:57] <Minataku> Fear the calculus
[04:58] <jmichaelx> Minataku: i found out that there had been a change in nvidia drivers, and i now needed nvidia-glx-legacy for this card...... the change threw me
[04:58] <Telroth> trappist, last i heard, wine people were pissed because cedega stopped contributing back
[04:58] <Minataku> jmichaelx: Ah
[04:58] <trappist> intelikey: yeah I'm behind in my typing :)
[04:58] <Telroth> trappist, but i havne't been up to date on everything
[04:58] <Minataku> jmichaelx: Yeah, that's the "dead driver"
[04:58] <Minataku> No more updates
[04:58] <Minataku> When the card is EOL for Linux it's tossed in there
[04:58] <trappist> Telroth: I haven't kept up either, that could be true.  but last I heard everybody was pals
[04:58] <Minataku> Better than ATI, though
[04:59] <jmichaelx> lol
[04:59] <Minataku> Who deletes the driver entirely
[04:59] <Minataku> Leaving you stranded unless you buy another card
[04:59] <Minataku> Which is when you burn the ATI card and get an nVidia
[04:59] <jmichaelx> good business
[04:59] <jmichaelx> lol exactly
[04:59] <Minataku> jmichaelx: Supposedly it is, at least it is when you hate F/OSS like ATI
[05:00] <Minataku> I hope AMD turns them around
[05:00] <intelikey> or burn the ati and get something natively supported.
[05:00] <Minataku> AMD has historically been F/OSS friendly
[05:00] <jmichaelx> a lot of people are hoping that
[05:00] <Minataku> Like an Intel card
[05:00] <Minataku> brb, I have to take my pills
[05:01] <jmichaelx> agp is usually out of my league....
[05:01] <one> haha converting and mounting works *G*
[05:01] <jmichaelx> *is buried under old hardware
[05:02] <jmichaelx> lol
[05:03] <jmichaelx> Telroth: i like (most) of my old hardware :-D
[05:03] <Telroth> intelikey, server is in the locked cabinet
[05:04] <Telroth> *points*
[05:04] <Skyblast> Are there any actaul intel video cards or are they all just onboard stuff?
[05:04] <intelikey> :)
[05:04] <jmichaelx> i spent $5 for this machine, $19 for a usb 2.0 card and $50 for the nVidia video
[05:05] <draik> I LOVE KUBUNTU... that is all
[05:05] <jmichaelx> howdy draik :-D
[05:05] <draik> Hello jmichaelx, how is everything?
[05:05] <Skyblast> Kubuntu for all!
[05:05] <jmichaelx> i have made good use of almost all of that PC 100 RAM you sent me
[05:05] <Dr_willis>  Hmm.. ok.. if ANYONE meets the programmers behind Yahoo Messenger... will you please SLAP THEM hard!
[05:05] <jmichaelx> good
[05:05] <draik> I'm glad
[05:06] <Dr_willis> I am having to do way too much 'tech support' for the wife and that idiotic program.
[05:06] <draik> that it went to use, I just had them sitting around
[05:06] <Skyblast> hehe
[05:06] <jmichaelx> it helped me out a bunch
[05:06] <Telroth> Dr_willis, does slap imply the use of a hand?
[05:06] <Skyblast> Yahoo! Messenger.. as seen on To Catch a Predator!
[05:06] <Dr_willis> and she isent even 'using' the program. shes just playing with themes...
[05:06] <draik> Dr_willis: We deal with them at work every so often... will do
[05:06] <Telroth> or can something else be used? *cough*buckshot*cough*
[05:06] <intelikey> impossable.... access to tty's 5-8 is gone....    i've been griping for six months cause they were active at boot time and now they aren't....
[05:06] <Dr_willis> and the &*#&@ program has changed theme versions 100 times it seems.. so none of the ones shes downloading work.. and she cant understand why.
[05:06] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis: beryl?
[05:07] <Dr_willis> jmichaelx,  my wife just HAS to use XP and Yahoo Messenger to hang in chat rooms and 'listen' to these idiots singing country music... badly...
[05:07] <jmichaelx> YIKES
[05:07] <Dr_willis> so every 10 min or so she yells at me to show her how to use the program that i have never ever wanted to use.
[05:07] <Skyblast> I thought Yahoo chat rooms were all closed since all the pedophiles were in them 24/7
[05:07] <intelikey> rant on.
[05:08] <Dr_willis> Skyblast,  the custome-user created ones are.
[05:08] <draik> Dr_willis: Ouch... My girl loves her country music, but she knows I can't really stand it so she usually keeps it to herself
[05:08] <Skyblast> ahh I see
[05:08] <Dr_willis> I want to know when 'instant messenger progrms' became mass-voice chat
[05:08] <draik> !beryl
[05:08] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:08] <Minataku> Back
[05:09] <intelikey> Dr_willis   maybe remove the speakes ???
[05:09] <draik> !source-o-matic
[05:09] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:09] <jmichaelx> you can do yahoo voice chat in linux if you use gyachi.... there are probably other programs, too
[05:09] <Telroth> Dr_willis, about the time skype came out :P
[05:09] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Your wife should be forced to use Linux, same with your kids and yourself
[05:09] <Skyblast> You can use Trillian for Yahoo chat as well... I am pretty sure voice chat is supported
[05:09] <Minataku> XD
[05:10] <Minataku> As for keeping her from playing loud, horrible music... that's what the router is there for >:D
[05:10] <jmichaelx> i didn't know that there wa a linux trillian port
[05:10] <Skyblast> There is?
[05:10] <jmichaelx> ok.... i thought that is what you were saying
[05:10] <Skyblast> oh, hehe
[05:10] <intelikey> accidently type in   sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda1        Dr_willis ???
[05:11] <Skyblast> I just meant that if the person was insisting on Windows
[05:11] <Minataku> Sorry, felt like being evil for a second
[05:11] <Minataku> XD
[05:11] <intelikey> hey i'm just trying to help....
[05:11] <jmichaelx> gaim is about all i use.... not into chat rooms.... well, with the exception of IRC
[05:11] <Minataku> IRC is all I use
[05:11] <Minataku> I hate instant messaging
[05:11] <Minataku> I hate cell phones, too
[05:11] <intelikey> cell phone      what's that ?
[05:12] <draik> Hmmm...
[05:12] <Skyblast> I have all the popular IM's services. Might as well, since Kopete uses them. There is no one on my ICQ and Yahoo lists, though. hehe
[05:12] <jmichaelx> intelikey: that is especialy funny coming from you
[05:12] <draik> beryl isn't a package for me to apt-get install
[05:12] <jmichaelx> lol
[05:12] <intelikey> :)
[05:12] <mena> hi
[05:12] <Minataku> I used Skype for a spell but only while they had free SkypeOut
[05:12] <mena> i need some help
[05:12] <Minataku> Which is over now so I don't use it anymore
[05:12] <Minataku> lol
[05:12] <Skyblast> I haven't used Skype in a while
[05:12] <mena> i have a problem with my kubuntu in conecting to the internet
[05:12] <Skyblast> I used to leave it on and weird Chinese people would call me all the time
[05:13] <Minataku> Skyblast: Cool
[05:13] <Minataku> Sorta
[05:13] <Minataku> lol
[05:13] <Minataku> I'm a bit of a phone phreak
[05:13] <jmichaelx> draik: are you wanting to install beryl?
[05:13] <Minataku> Nothing illegal, though
[05:13] <draik> yes sir!
[05:13] <Minataku> I like making recordings of recordings
[05:13] <Minataku> Want to see my archive?
[05:13] <Skyblast> sure
[05:13] <Minataku> http://s95018220.onlinehome.us/random/phreaking/ << :D
[05:13] <Minataku> My other random crap is there too
[05:14] <Minataku> Enjoy any of it
[05:14] <mena> i cant conect to the internet through kubuntu but i cant through Xp ..So what is the problem ...nai idea
[05:14] <Minataku> I recommend http://s95018220.onlinehome.us/random/photochop/ for funnies
[05:14] <jmichaelx> it isn't all  that hard, although i managed to mess X up for half of the day trying to get beryl to work.... i was using the wrong driver
[05:14] <mena> sorry can through XP
[05:14] <Minataku> Keep in mind, all those done in The GIMP
[05:14] <Dr_willis> mena,  wireless? cable? router? ect....
[05:14] <Minataku> Not Photoshop :D
[05:14] <jmichaelx> draik: it is actually very easy
[05:14] <draik> ok\
[05:14] <intelikey> mena  wifi ?
[05:14] <mena> Dr_willis, router
[05:15] <Dr_willis> mena,  #1 - see if you can ping the router.
[05:15] <Dr_willis> #2 - if you can ping the router - double check your dns/gateway settings.
[05:15] <Minataku> I have the only contributor page on www.thisisarecording.com
[05:15] <mena> Dr_willis, on kubuntu
[05:15] <Minataku> And if you haven't guessed it yet, I'm Payphone Ed
[05:15] <Minataku> lol
[05:15] <one> argh need help again installing reason via wine, he wants the second cd, i mountet the second image but there is no ok button only quit so he dont go on cuz he doestnt find the cd ;_(
[05:15] <Skyblast> I am still pondering installing beryl once again... I really don't wanna botch up this nice, relatively new install. Granted, I always make backups of everything I edit, but still..
[05:15] <jmichaelx> draik: you need to read through the docs and pay attention to what kind of video  card you are using.....  then it is basically a matter of adding a repo & key and apt-getting
[05:16] <Skyblast> I wish I had the room(and money) for a testing PC
[05:16] <Minataku> Skyblast: Get a cheapie
[05:16] <Minataku> Thrift stores have nice, cheap PCs suitable for testing purposes
[05:16] <draik> I'm using the nVidia 5700LS 256MB video card
[05:16] <mena> Dr_willis , i can conect through Xp
[05:16] <draik> I have added the repo
[05:16] <Minataku> lol
[05:16] <jmichaelx> Skyblast: you can get PCs for under $20 all over the place.... you should see my apartment:-D
[05:16] <mena> Dr_willis , So why should i ping through it
[05:16] <Skyblast> yeah, I should, and just get a little KVM switch and not have to worry about monitor an dall that
[05:16] <nosferax_> HI! I have a question for the long time user of kubuntu around here... Is it normal that I have to start some program twice for them to run... The first time all i get is a bouncing icon on the screen then it disappear
[05:17] <Minataku> I prefer non-PCs
[05:17] <Minataku> Like I _LOVE_ Sun machines
[05:17] <Minataku> I've got 4 as it is
[05:17] <Minataku> 1 sun4u (Sun Ultra 5, Hazuki)
[05:17] <Minataku> 3 sun4m (Sun SPARCstation 5/170, Dejiko \
[05:17] <draik> and I wanted to apt-get beryl, but it stated that there is no package with that name
[05:17] <jmichaelx> Skyblast: i have a kvm st this desk.... 4 PCs, one monitor/mouse
[05:17] <Skyblast> I have one old PC in my closet but it's a bit too old to be of any major use(P1 MMX 166MHz)
[05:17] <Minataku> Sun SPARCstation LX (4/30), Haruko \
[05:18] <Minataku> Sun SPARCstation 10, Unnamed)
[05:18] <Telroth> draik, added the repos and performed apt-get update?
[05:18] <mena> dr_willis, i have a reply xp ith the ping
[05:18] <Dr_willis> draik,  theres some wiki pages on installing beryl..
[05:18] <draik> yes sir
[05:18] <draik> ok
[05:18] <Telroth> draik, #ubuntu-glx is a good place to beryl/compiz help
[05:18] <jmichaelx> Skyblast: it could still me fun.... put DELI linux on it
[05:18] <draik> I will look for them
[05:18] <Minataku> Skyblast: If it has a large enough HDD, it's good for FreeBSD/i386 6.2-RELEASE
[05:18] <Telroth> it's where i learned how to get it working :)
[05:18] <intelikey> nosferax_ i've been using *buntu sense hoary came out but i dont mess with the pointy clicky thingy much,  at a venture i have to say "no that's not normal"  but what do i know about gui's
[05:18] <Dr_willis> draik,  not that i was able to get it working.. apraently theres some issues at this time with it.
[05:19] <Skyblast> It has a 3.2GB drive in it I believe
[05:19] <mena> dr_willis, So what is the problem with kubuntu bec it was working befor ....
[05:19] <Skyblast> but I have a 10 I could throw in it
[05:19] <Minataku> Mahoro is a Toshiba Satellite 305CDS with a 40GB HDD (lol) and runs 6.1-RELEASE very nicely
[05:19] <jmichaelx> Skyblast: that is tons of room for DELI
[05:19] <draik> Dr_willis: Ummm... about the wiki page... it's about berylium
[05:20] <Minataku> Skyblast: A nice amount for FreeBSD as well
[05:20] <jmichaelx> !beryl
[05:20] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:20] <steven__> is there a command to force close programs??
[05:20] <Minataku> Either 5.5-LEGACY, 6.1-STABLE or 6.2-RELEASE
[05:20] <Minataku> steven__: kill
[05:20] <Minataku> Try it plain at first, if it fails, kill -9
[05:20] <Skyblast> I have very little experience with any of the BSD's.
[05:20] <Skyblast> I tried to install one in vmware once. It did not go well :)
[05:21] <Minataku> Skyblast: It's not that much different from the basic administration level
[05:21] <Skyblast> hmmm
[05:21] <Telroth> giving up on kubuntu for now, running windows :P
[05:21] <Minataku> I'm an OS collector and Unix fanatic, though
[05:21] <Telroth> boots in a nice 30 seconds
[05:21] <Eruantalon> Is there a way to get apt-get to dist-upgrade BUT keep certain packages... that is have some sort of priority. Fx i want to upgrade to feisty but it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop. How can i make sure that key packages are kept?
[05:22] <nosferax_> It doesn't happens all the time, and since the program start on the second try it's not that much of a problem but i wanted to know if i was the only one with this problem
[05:22] <Minataku> I love Unix, all kinds
[05:22] <FB33> how do i fine graphics card id?
[05:22] <Minataku> Except NeXTSTEP... NeXTSTEP/OpenSTEP/Rhapsody/Darwin all suck
[05:22] <steven__> Minataku it didnt work..
[05:22] <Skyblast> Looking up DELI on wikipedia... looks interesting, but I'll happily try FreeBSD as well
[05:22] <Minataku> steven__: You need the pid of the process
[05:22] <steven__> Minataku how do i get that
[05:22] <Minataku> Type "ps -A" then look for the name and grab it's PID
[05:22] <foo>    ]
[05:23] <foo> How do I select the clock to not be in 24 hour format?
[05:23] <orient2000> I have a problem with mounting another Linux HD. I have in fstab: /dev/sda1 /media/120MB ext3 user,auto,fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000, 0 0
[05:23] <Minataku> First number is the PID, after that "kill PID" and if it doesn't die, really kill it with "kill -9 PID"
[05:23] <intelikey> foo right click on the clock and configure it ?
[05:23] <tritesnikov> hi all, how do i disable virtual screen resolution? i like to run normally at 1152x864 because my refresh rate is higher, but i like to run games at 1280x960. if i leave all of the Mode configs in xorg.conf, i get a reolution that is larger than the screen. is there a way to disable this behavior without having to remove Mode resolutions from xorg.conf?
[05:24] <Minataku> xrandr
[05:24] <Minataku> !xrandr
[05:24] <ubotu> xrandr: X Rotation, Reflection and Resize utility. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 60 kB
[05:24] <foo> intelikey: eh, I could have guessed that... but I don't see the option anywhere... which is why I asked...
[05:24] <orient2000> sudo mount -a
[05:24] <orient2000> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[05:24] <orient2000>        missing codepage or other error
[05:24] <orient2000>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[05:24] <orient2000>        dmesg | tail  or so
[05:24] <steven__> it says no such process:S
[05:24] <Minataku> steven__: It's lying!
[05:24] <steven__> lol
[05:24] <Minataku> ps again
[05:24] <Minataku> Maybe it died while you were trying to kill it
[05:24] <Minataku> XD
[05:24] <intelikey> orient2000 and what is the problem with it ?
[05:25] <Minataku> orient2000: Do what it says
[05:25] <Minataku> dmesg | tail and look for the problem
[05:25] <intelikey> orient2000 oh.  heh i see    sed 's/user,auto,fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000,//'  that thing.
[05:25] <intelikey> 's/user,auto,fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000,/defaults/'
[05:25] <orient2000> I have another linux HD with a data I can not access. I can not mount it
[05:26] <Minataku> intelikey: Simplify
[05:26] <steven__> doh! nothing Minataku
[05:26] <intelikey> 's/user,auto,fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000,/defaults/' orient2000
[05:26] <steven__> its fine..ill restart or soemthing
[05:26] <orient2000> what shoul I white in fstabs?
[05:26] <Minataku> steven__: Is the program still running?
[05:26] <Eruantalon> Is there a way to get apt-get to dist-upgrade BUT keep certain packages... that is have some sort of priority. Fx i want to upgrade to feisty but it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop. How can i make sure that key packages are kept?
[05:26] <Minataku> orient2000: Replace the mount options with "defaults"
[05:26] <steven__> Minataku yes...except it froze
[05:27] <Minataku> Or just "user,auto"
[05:27] <jmichaelx> draik: this is what i followed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[05:27] <steven__> thats why im trying to kill it
[05:27] <Minataku> steven__: Okay, "ps -A" and make sure you note the number carefully
[05:27] <Minataku> If you're like me you transposed some numbers
[05:27] <Minataku> lol
[05:27] <Minataku> I do that all the time when I try to kill programs
[05:28] <chris_> hello, I just installed beryl, works great, but I can't get any 3d effects. I've got an nvidia 7400 Go, and it says that there is no support for the GLX_EXT extension it needs. I'm a little suppried because it's a 7000 serise, and 8000 only just can out. Is there some sort of driver i can install to get the extension going?
[05:28] <Minataku> It'll be "27490" and I'll type "27940"
[05:28] <Minataku> chris_: I gotta say, I love how it "works great" when it actually doesn't work properly ;3
[05:28] <intelikey> orient2000 as i was saying  's/user,auto,fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000,/defaults/'   that means delete   "user,auto,fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000,"    and   put   "defaults"  in it's place.
[05:28] <intelikey> modem reset got me.
[05:29] <Telroth> chris_, you need the beta nvidia drivers
[05:29] <steven__> Minataku thanks:)
[05:29] <Minataku> steven__: Got it? :D
[05:29] <Telroth> chris_, #ubuntu-gxl can help you :)
[05:29] <tritesnikov> uboto: thanks for the xrandr command, does the trick. however, does that stop games from changing the resolution to higher than what xrandr says, or would it be a game bug if it crashes when trying to change the resolution?
[05:29] <steven__> Minataku:  sure did thanks:)
[05:29] <Minataku> It was the transposed numbers, wasn't it? XD
[05:29] <chris_> Telroth, ok, thanks.
[05:29] <steven__> Minataku: what is the difference between ps and ps -a?
[05:29] <Minataku> steven__: No problem
[05:29] <Minataku> steven__: ps alone only shows what's running from that terminal
[05:29] <jmichaelx> ubotu is not much of a conversationalist
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is not much of a conversationalist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <Minataku> ps -a shows every process on the system
[05:30] <jmichaelx> he proved me wrong
[05:30] <Minataku> Rather ps -A
[05:30] <Minataku> Case sensitive
[05:30] <Minataku> !botsnack
[05:30] <intelikey> orient2000   "man fstab "      will reveal to you that *mask is M$ specific settings.  can't mount anything but M$ krap with those settings.
[05:30] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:30] <steven__> really? what is lower case a then Minataku?
[05:30] <mena> !ipv6
[05:30] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:30] <Minataku> steven__: I dunno, let me check
[05:30] <mena> !ipv4
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipv4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <dhq> hey all
[05:31] <Minataku> -a              Select all processes except session leaders (see getsid(2)) and processes not associated with a terminal.
[05:31] <dhq> i have a rar file which has password feild how do i get the password
[05:31] <Minataku> Something quite technical
[05:31] <Minataku> lol
[05:31] <steven__> thanks anyway Minataku:)
[05:31] <Minataku> steven__: No problem
[05:31] <Minataku> If it happens again check what you typed
[05:31] <intelikey> ps -a will error
[05:31] <Minataku> Like I said I constantly do the same damn thing XD
[05:31] <orient2000> "/dev/sda1 /media/120MB ext3 user,auto,fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000,/defaults/' orient2000"?
[05:32] <intelikey> idiots removed the -  on -a
[05:32] <Minataku> intelikey: It doesn't error
[05:32] <Minataku> It's a legit option
[05:32] <tritesnikov> uboto: thanks for the xrandr command, does the trick. however, does that stop games from changing the resolution to higher than what xrandr says, or would it be a game bug if it crashes when trying to change the resolution?
[05:32] <Minataku> tritesnikov: Game bug
[05:32] <tritesnikov> alright thanks
[05:33] <tritesnikov> it's a beta anyways, just trying to make suyre
[05:33] <tritesnikov> sure
[05:33] <Minataku> np
[05:33] <intelikey> Minataku ok it's -x that they did that to
[05:33] <intelikey> we used to do ps -aux all the time.  it errors.
[05:33] <Minataku> intelikey: I dunno, I hardly ever use anything but -A or -Af or something
[05:34] <intelikey> ps -A x     is what i normally use.
[05:35] <Telroth> ps aux is what i use
[05:35] <intelikey> Telroth shows the same thing
[05:37] <intelikey> tty2 [greg@~]  /bin/ps -A ux | grep -e U -m 1
[05:37] <intelikey> USER       PID %CPU %MEM    VSZ   RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
[05:37] <intelikey> tty2 [greg@~]  /bin/ps aux | grep -e U -m 1
[05:37] <intelikey> USER       PID %CPU %MEM    VSZ   RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
[05:37] <intelikey> look the same to me.
[05:38] <Minataku> Audacious is being a jerk... it's default MP3 decoder has time measuring issues with VBR MP3s
[05:38] <Minataku> >.<
[05:39] <intelikey> actually i use   pid  which is a script i wrote that with out args does ps -A x   and has some nice formatting added to the text.
[05:40] <intelikey> with args it does tricks.
[05:40] <Minataku> lol
[05:40] <intelikey> jumps through hoops
[05:40] <intelikey> poops in hats...
[05:40] <Minataku> XD
[05:40] <intelikey> looks for the man with the big yellow hat..
[05:42] <mena> no can help me to figure out why i cant conect to the net with kubuntu but i can with xp and i was befor be able to conect with kubuntu
[05:42] <mena> no one*
[05:43] <intelikey> mena did you follow what Dr_willis said to you  ^  ?
[05:43] <draik> Well, I installed Beryl and all that good stuff, but now I can't get the manager to run. Any clues?
[05:43] <mena> yes i had a reply
[05:43] <draik> !beryl
[05:43] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:43] <mena> but with xp
[05:44] <intelikey> have to check with linux.  not xp.
[05:44] <mena> how to do with kubuntu is there a command
[05:44] <intelikey> ping
[05:44] <intelikey> man ping
[05:44] <intelikey> man ifconfig
[05:44] <mena> okay i will but if i had
[05:44] <intelikey> nano /etc/resolv.conf
[05:44] <mena> okay
[05:45] <Minataku> Fu...dge
[05:45] <Minataku> My neck hurts
[05:46] <cpk1> resolve.conf only helps if their dns isnt working
[05:47] <Minataku> resolve.conf doesn't help at all. You have to spell it right ;3
[05:47] <cpk1> mena: you able to connect to your router?
[05:47] <cpk1> that is true
[05:48] <FringeJacket> I cant get gaim to install
[05:48] <Minataku> That's probably a good thing
[05:48] <cpk1> FringeJacket: using aptitude?
[05:49] <FringeJacket> to be honest, I just know I did the package and followed what it said for that
[05:50] <FringeJacket> My friend just installed linux on my computer yesterday and it confuses me
[05:50] <revdjenk> Fringejacket, what is the most confusing?
[05:51] <Minataku> FringeJacket: Thank him
[05:51] <underdog5004> FringeJacket, what's bothering you about it?
[05:51] <underdog5004> FringeJacket, ok, open up a konsole (Kmenu->system->konsole)
[05:51] <Dr_willis> given the fighting ive been doing with windows XP lately........ Linux is like a... err... hmm.. i better not say this is a Faimly Channel
[05:52] <underdog5004> Dr_willis, lol, a safe haven?
[05:52] <Dr_willis> I was thinking  "a wife thats goodlooking AND can cook..."
[05:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:52] <FringeJacket> ok
[05:53] <underdog5004> FringeJacket, now type sudo apt-get install gaim
[05:53] <Mightily-Oats> hey all... hopefully a quick question... anyone played around with usb headphones?
[05:53] <underdog5004> Mightily-Oats, I have
[05:53] <underdog5004> Plantronics
[05:54] <FringeJacket> it says it can't find the package
[05:54] <Mightily-Oats> ive been given a set of dodgitech usb ones.. and i cant get sound out of them..
[05:54] <Dr_willis> !info gaim
[05:54] <revdjenk> Dr_willis   :)
[05:54] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1311 kB, installed size 3712 kB
[05:54] <underdog5004> FringeJacket, ok, you need to edit a text file for me.
[05:55] <Mightily-Oats> dmesg picks up the device
[05:55] <underdog5004> FringeJacket, in konsole, type in sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:55] <Mightily-Oats> alsamixer -c 2 allows me to control volume... but the sound isnt been directed through them
[05:56] <sasoyna> hi guys anyone work with samba?
[05:56] <Mightily-Oats> is there way to route the sound to a different device?
[05:56] <underdog5004> Mightily-Oats, you may need to use kmix to change the mixer
[05:56] <FringeJacket> ok
[05:57] <underdog5004> FringeJacket, ok, that'll open up a text file that's got a bunch of stuff in it. Basically, delete the #'s from in front of the lines that start with #deb etc..
[05:58] <Mightily-Oats> underdog5004: ok.. changed the mixer.. it allows me to control the volume.. but i dont think the sound is being sent to the usb headphones
[05:58] <underdog5004> Mightily-Oats, Open up kmix and select USB 0x02c3 or whatever it's called?
[05:58] <underdog5004> Mightily-Oats, there should be a dropdown menu in the upper right...
[05:58] <Mightily-Oats> underdog5004: yep.. did that.
[05:58] <FringeJacket> ok, done and saved
[05:58] <underdog5004> Mightily-Oats, and it didn't work?
[05:59] <underdog5004> FringeJacket, ok, now do that other command... sudo apt-get install gaim
[05:59] <Mightily-Oats> nup... sound is still coming out through the soundcard and speakers...
[05:59] <Mightily-Oats> i think it needs to be routed to the new device.. but im not dure how to do that
[05:59] <underdog5004> Mightily-Oats, have you rebooted your computer since you've had your headphones in?
[05:59] <underdog5004> that'll do it...cause I don't know the command to redetect soundcards, lol
[05:59] <mena> intelikey, first i didi it and nothing happend and i got some chosise and then i opened the nano and i found the gateway is right bec its the one i use on xp so any idea
[06:00] <Mightily-Oats> underdog5004: nup... just plugged them in.. should i?
[06:00] <underdog5004> FringeJacket, did it work?
[06:00] <FringeJacket> still doesn't wanna work]
[06:00] <underdog5004> Mightily-Oats, that's what works for me...
[06:00] <underdog5004> pastebin | FringeJacket
[06:00] <Mightily-Oats> ok... ill try that underdog5004... thanks :)
[06:00] <orient2000> Can I reinstall Kubuntu from root without loosing my data?
[06:00] <underdog5004> FringeJacket, in konsole, type in sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list and copy it over to pastebin
[06:00] <underdog5004> FringeJacket, then give us the address...
[06:00] <smaggard> hello!
[06:00] <intelikey> mena i'm not the one to be asking about networking.  sorry.    i really don't want to mess something up there.
[06:02] <underdog5004> FringeJacket, ?
[06:02] <FringeJacket> what is pastebin?
[06:02] <underdog5004> pastebin | FringeJacket
[06:02] <orient2000> !pastebin
[06:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:02] <intelikey> http://www.pastebin.ca
[06:02] <underdog5004> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:02] <intelikey> http://www.pastebin.ca
[06:03] <intelikey> :)
[06:03] <underdog5004> intelikey, that's for canada
[06:03] <mena> intelikey, ok thanks i guess i will renistall kubuntu thaks any way
[06:03] <underdog5004> w/e
[06:03] <underdog5004> FringeJacket, ?
[06:04] <intelikey> underdog5004 that's for people that may or MAY NOT use a gui browser.   the ubuntu pastebin doesn't work with cli browsers.
[06:04] <underdog5004> intelikey, he's using a gui
[06:04] <intelikey> see above statement.
[06:04] <underdog5004> intelikey, truce?
[06:04] <underdog5004> FringeJacket, how you doing?
[06:05] <jarrod> j/#ubunut
[06:05] <FringeJacket> more confused.
[06:05] <underdog5004> FringeJacket, why?
[06:05] <intelikey> besides just because it says .ca     doesn't mean much  the ub one is in .uk
[06:05] <underdog5004> intelikey, ok.
[06:05] <intelikey> uk ca what the diff3  ?
[06:05] <FringeJacket> nevermind, being dumb, gimme a sec\
[06:06] <underdog5004> FringeJacket, k
[06:06] <intelikey> monkey-C  ?
[06:07] <Mightily-Oats> underdog5004: ok.. rebooted.. still no sound through the headphones :(
[06:07] <orient2000> How can I save my files? I have Kubuntu booting but no GUI.
[06:07] <intelikey> !sound | Mightily-Oats
[06:07] <ubotu> Mightily-Oats: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:07] <underdog5004> Mightily-Oats, ok, open up Kmenu->system settings->sound/multimedia
[06:07] <FringeJacket> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4063/
[06:08] <intelikey> orient2000 why no gui ?
[06:08] <underdog5004> FringeJacket, ok, taking a look now
[06:08] <FringeJacket> thank you so much
[06:08] <Mightily-Oats> yep
[06:08] <intelikey> orient2000 you can reconfigure xorg...
[06:08] <orient2000> xserver-xorg-core does not start. I was working on it to long.
[06:08] <underdog5004> FringeJacket, ok, that's not what I want. I want the stuff that's in the kate window (the ones with all the #'s)
[06:08] <Mightily-Oats> tried with sound system on
[06:09] <underdog5004> orient2000, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:09] <underdog5004> orient2000, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:09] <orient2000> I did it, nothing works. I just want these files and then reinstall.
[06:09] <intelikey> reinstall to fix gui ?
[06:10] <underdog5004> Mightily-Oats, then in hardware, check override device location, and type in /dev/dsp1
[06:10] <underdog5004> orient2000, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:10] <FringeJacket> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4064/
[06:10] <orient2000> Ok I will try it.
[06:11] <underdog5004> FringeJacket, ok, that's good. lemme take a look..
[06:11] <intelikey> if you run   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    and answer all the questions correctly the gui will work.   then type startx    to test it.
[06:13] <underdog5004> FringeJacket, take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4065/    <== delete all the stuff in your /etc/apt/sources.list and replace it with that stuff.
[06:13] <underdog5004> Mightily-Oats, still having problems?
[06:14] <Mightily-Oats> underdog5004: yep. still a no go
[06:14] <underdog5004> ok, instead of /dev/dsp1, do /dev/dsp
[06:15] <intelikey> underdog5004 why didn't you have him just remove the last three lines        or did i miss something ?
[06:15] <Mightily-Oats> underdog5004: nothing this time
[06:15] <Mightily-Oats> either
[06:16] <underdog5004> intelikey, I don't know.
[06:16] <underdog5004> Mightily-Oats, bummer
[06:16] <intelikey> you know that you cut him out of backports
[06:16] <underdog5004> I did? weird...
[06:16] <underdog5004> intelikey, feel free to jump in
[06:16] <underdog5004> I gotta go soon
[06:17] <FringeJacket> not working, luckily RJ is home from work
[06:17] <intelikey> err no you didn't.  i overlooked it
[06:17] <intelikey> it's there.
[06:17] <Mightily-Oats> underdog5004: ok.. ill keep searching... thanks for all ur help
[06:17] <underdog5004> Mightily-Oats, np