[05:40] <xangua> Zelozelos: well i remember i tried it and after some minutes purged it inmediatly
[05:40] <xangua> mmm a long time ago
[05:40] <maco> Fraxtil: like it shows the default ones and then theres a button underneath that says the number of nonstandard ones
[05:40] <jjast73> racerd were u prompted for a password when you used sudo?
[05:40] <racerd> nah
[05:40] <racerd> was using it earlier
[05:41] <Fraxtil> maco: I see the "Advanced >" button, but none of my files seem to have any id3v2 tags at all. Maybe I'm missing a library?
[05:41] <maco> sebsebseb: you know the rules about PMing
[05:41] <racerd> so terminal didn't prompt me again
[05:41] <jjast73> racerd: ok how about "touch /tmp/testing"
[05:41] <Zelozelos> xangua, mm ok, what ws the one u suggested and how would i go about gettin it?
[05:41] <maco> Fraxtil: posssibly it just uses id3v1 in iTunes? hrmph
[05:41] <jjast73> racerd: then run  "sudo touch /tmp/testing2"
[05:41] <xangua> Zelozelos: sudo apt-get install parcellite
[05:41] <jjast73> racerd: then check the permissions
[05:41] <racerd> then i ran
[05:41] <racerd> sudo gedit 99-android.rules
[05:42] <xangua> Zelozelos: there is also pastie if you like more the 'indicators'
[05:42] <Zelozelos> xangua, kk ill remember that i already installed glipper lemme check it out
[05:42] <Fraxtil> maco: I edited all the tags in EasyTag, so they should be using id3v2.4 - it's just that easytag didn't remove the "album artist" field, which messes up my track order in iTunes.
[05:42] <jjast73> racerd: yup you can run gedit, vim, pico "filename"
[05:42] <racerd> i just need to create a rules file in a folder that had root permissions
[05:42] <racerd> yeah
[05:42] <racerd> i know :)
[05:42] <racerd> i used to use slackware
[05:42] <maco> Fraxtil: i wonder if the album artist one is v1 though... i have removed nonstandard tags using audio tagtool's advanced button
[05:42] <jjast73> racerd, root owns all files.
[05:43] <jjast73> racerd: so how could you not create a file in /etc as root using sudo?
[05:43] <racerd> sudo is a root command
[05:43] <racerd> ubuntu removed "root"
[05:44] <racerd> so it allowed me to make a root command in a root only permissions folder
[05:44] <Fraxtil> maco: I see an option to remove all tags, which I guess would do the trick, but I don't want to have to rebuild the tags I want all over again.
[05:44] <jjast73> racerd: sudo is "super user do" it's not root. 2nd. the root account in ubuntu is still there.
[05:44] <maco> Fraxtil: can you right click the unwanted one maybe?
[05:44] <racerd> it still works
[05:44] <racerd> wouldn't in the ui
[05:44] <jjast73> racerd: the ui is different.
[05:45] <sebsebseb> maco: Was just looking at some back log,  and I noticed how he recommend 8.10 to someone earlier,  so told him it wasn't supported anymore.  Altough yeah I suppouse I can still reply to something from an hour or so ago in the channel, really.
[05:45] <tucemiux> I want to edit a video in kino so I can upload to youtube, which video standard would give me the best resolution to use on a youtube video, NTSC or PAL?
[05:45] <racerd> i know
[05:45] <jjast73> racerd: ubuntu really doesn't want ppl using the root account from a shell
[05:45] <Fraxtil> maco: I can't see any id3v2 tags (in simple or advanced mode), and the id3v1 tab shows all my wanted tags, but doesn't have an "advanced" option with which I can view the nonstandard tags.
[05:45] <jjast73> racerd: new users is more like it.
[05:46] <racerd> well i am trying to get fastboot to work
[05:46] <maco> Fraxtil: oh :-/ mmm maybe kid3 ?
[05:47] <MaRk-I> sebsebseb: you could've asked first, and he was using 6.10 on an OLD pc, it was a suggestion he could try
[05:47] <roky> Can anyone help me with fixing my sound on my laptop? It plays but at such extremely low levels It's barely audible. With everything maxed. Any ideas?
[05:49] <sebsebseb> MaRk-I: Sure, but about as good as using 6.10 really,  since 8.10 isn't supported anymore either.  That was my point.  Altough I didn't get to say that in pm, but now I have in here.
[05:49] <MaRk-I> sebsebseb: point taken
[05:50] <peeps> i'm trying to use eclipse, but it just crashes every time I start to edit some code.  is anyone running eclipse successfully on lucid?
[05:51] <Zelozelos> hmm i dont see the glipper applet, how do i use glipper?
[05:51] <racerd> yes!!
[05:51] <racerd> got it to work :)
[05:51] <racerd> fastboot commands and adb commands work in the terminal directly
[05:51] <xangua> Zelozelos: try launching 'glipper'
[05:51] <MaRk-I> Zelozelos: right click task bar and "add to panel" select glipper
[05:52] <Fraxtil> maco: finally getting somewhere with a bash script I found on the net; combining the output from this with a binary called "id3v2" should solve my problem.
[05:52] <maco> Fraxtil: alright. good luck
[05:52] <racerd> jjast73 | thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[05:52] <Zelozelos> xangua i tried glipper from a terminal, no command found, MaRk-I i trid that too, its not there
[05:53] <MaRk-I> you might have to restart your desktop
[05:53] <MaRk-I> should be there
[05:53] <Zelozelos> kk ill try tat
[05:55] <xangua> jum restar¿ :S this is not windows
[05:56] <Miesco> How do I set a parameter to a static kernel module?
[05:56] <Zelozelos> nope still no glipper, movin on to another one ;)
[05:56] <MaRk-I> xangua: restarting a desktop is not the same as restarting the system/pc
[05:57] <MaRk-I> Zelozelos: "Clipboard Manager"
[05:59] <MaRk-I> Zelozelos: there's klipper and someone suggested parcellite which I have no exp. with
[05:59] <Zelozelos> i just got parcellite, seems pretty cool i think thats just what the dr ordered ty guys for the suggestions/helping
[06:01] <Zelozelos> YUP, thats exactly what i wanted 8-)
[06:01] <fme> i have an encrypted LVM and i need to reinstall ubunto on the system root volume
[06:01] <fme> any idea on how i can do this? the alternate installer isnt playing nice
[06:03] <jjast73> fme: the process could take a very long time to resolve. is the data on that lvm backed up?
[06:03] <john38> i installed Catalyst Control Center for Ubunut
[06:03] <thenappy_> hi everybody
[06:03] <jjast73> Hi
[06:03] <john38> when i run it says no video driver installed or malfunctioning
[06:03] <thenappy_> plz someone can help me
[06:04] <fme> jjast73 no, i have nowhere to backup 400 gigs of data
[06:04] <thenappy_> i wan install skype
[06:04] <john38> thenappy just go to Ubuntu Software Center
[06:04] <john38> type Skype its there
[06:05] <kamal_> hi
[06:05] <IdleOne> !skype | thenappy_
[06:05] <xangua> that's only if you have the partner repository enabled john38 thenappy_
[06:05] <xangua> !partner | thenappy_
[06:05] <thenappy_> tks bro
[06:06] <thenappy_> tks so let me see it
[06:06] <john38> its enabled by default
[06:06] <thenappy_> tks ubottu
[06:06] <kamal_> how can i enable video chat?
[06:06] <kamal_> can i any1 tell?
[06:09] <insomniac1> http://pastebin.com/hxCz7Y5u
[06:09] <insomniac1> trying to fix errors with linux-headers-2.6.32-23-generic
[06:10] <Fraxtil> well, editing out the fields in iTunes under VirtualBox seemed to work just as well. Thanks for the help anyway.
[06:11] <its-me-again> !ask
[06:13] <insomniac1> can someone look at this pastebin and tell me what other information i can provide to get some help fixing my issue? http://pastebin.com/hxCz7Y5u
[06:15] <fme> does anyone have any idea on how i can reinstall ubuntu on to an encrypted lvm setup?
[06:15] <abhi_nav> gooood morning!!!!
[06:15] <fme> i JUST need the sysroot partiion reinstalled, leaving my home alone
[06:15] <SwedeMike> fme: use the "alternate" (not desktop or server) installer, it can do that.
[06:16] <Alazair> anyone here know how to setup a webserver frontend to a file server?
[06:16] <fme> SwedeMike i have tried
[06:16] <fme> no luck
[06:16] <fme> it just wants to make new partitions
[06:16] <fme> and the resuce a broken system will not continue without selecitng a system root partition, and mine is currently corrupt
[06:16] <ImaLamer> can't config xscreensaver due to: xscreensaver-demo: 01:14:43: Gtk-warning: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated
[06:17] <SwedeMike> fme: delete everything but /home and do a new install and let it create partitions?
[06:17] <insomniac1> does anyone know how to find package configuration files that have changed?
[06:17] <Zelozelos> insomniac1, did u try using the package manager to upgrade them?
[06:17] <insomniac1> that is, they are not the same as installed by the package?
[06:17] <ImaLamer> search by date?
[06:17] <fme> SwedeMike its an encrytped lvm, it will overwrite all my stuffs i think
[06:17] <insomniac1> Zelozelos: yes, same problem in aptitude
[06:17] <insomniac1> and synaptic
[06:18] <ImaLamer> want to restore the original settings?
[06:18] <insomniac1> ImaLamer: was that directed at me?
[06:18] <ImaLamer> insomniac1, yes sorry :)
[06:18] <Akuma_s> insomniac1, I had the same issue long ago... I fixed it removing that file and doing an update...
[06:18] <SwedeMike> fme: so all the lv:s are in a single pv in a partition?
[06:18] <insomniac1> ImaLamer: yes, i'd like to restore to defaults
[06:19] <fme> SwedeMike yea
[06:19] <hellosir> hey guys
[06:19] <Akuma_s> insomniac1, a backup also should be a good idea :)
[06:19] <Zelozelos> just a thought :9 i tink the configs are in /boot
[06:19] <ImaLamer> insomniac1, then apt-get purge i believe - then you can install again with defaults
[06:19] <SwedeMike> fme: then your best bet is to install a system on another drive, put in your old drive, open the encrypted pv/lv and copy all the data you still want to keep.
[06:19] <ImaLamer> '
[06:20] <fme> SwedeMike yea i think i could do that
[06:20] <hellosir> im trying to figure out a reverse ssh tunnel for local facebook development - is there a way i can debug it?
[06:20] <dontput> yo
[06:20] <Loshki> SwedeMike: fme: can't that be done from the live cd?
[06:20] <fme> i can only boot the alternate disc
[06:21] <jjast73> hellosir: try ssh -nNT -R 1100:local.mydomain.com:1100 remote.mydomain.com
[06:21] <Sam_Fisher> How do I make all audio files open in Rhythm Box instead of Movie PLayer?
[06:21] <fme> i should be able to reformate the corrupt sysroot partiion, then jus tmount and copy everything from an install on another drive though
[06:21] <SwedeMike> Loshki: the live cd doesn't have lvm afaik
[06:21] <hellosir> jjast73: thats exactly what i did, and i also added GatewayPorts yes server-side
[06:21] <fme> or cryptsetup
[06:22] <hellosir> it doesnt work right now so i was wondering if there was a way to debug it
[06:22] <SwedeMike> fme: that too
[06:22] <fme> SwedeMike how would i reformat just the sysroot volume?
[06:22] <Vin73> hi, how to install libxml2 development package on lucid?
[06:22] <insomniac1> http://pastebin.com/qCXzm235  <-- output from package manager after i purged then reinstalled
[06:23] <Vin73> I have already installed libxml2...
[06:23] <Loshki> SwedeMike: then I'd boot a 3rd party rescue cd, e.g. systemrescuecd  http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[06:23] <SwedeMike> fme: I don't know at what level I should answer that question.
[06:23] <insomniac1> there must be another package that's borked
[06:23] <jjast73> hellosir: try running the sshd server in debug mode and run the client in debug
[06:24] <Vin73> hello...
[06:24] <fme> SwedeMike well i can mount my home volume, but the sysroot one is toast. surely there is an lvm command that will reformat it? or do i reformat it before making it active in lvm?
[06:24] <fme> i know a little about this lvm and luks madness, but not a whole lot
[06:24] <airtonix> any reason why transferring files from ubuntu to windows 7 gives me at most 10kb/s ?
[06:24] <jjast73> airtonix: are you on wireless?
[06:24] <SwedeMike> fme: lvm doesn't do filesystem, it does block devices.
[06:24] <airtonix> jjast73, ethernet
[06:25] <Zelozelos> Sam_Fisher, i think all u have to do is play them from rythembox, just direct rythmbox to their locations w the import folder option
[06:27] <Loshki> fme: what kind of toast? Corrupted files? corrupted fileSYSTEM? lvm layer issues, what?
[06:27] <red2kic> fme: Can you access CTRL+ALT+F3 in alternative mode?
[06:27] <fme> corrupt filesystem
[06:27] <hellosir> jjast73: thanks, ill give it a try
[06:27] <fme> red2kic i havent tried, what is that suppsoed to do?
[06:27] <red2kic> !tty | fme
[06:28] <Loshki> fme: corrupt filesystem as evidenced by what? fsck?
[06:28] <SwedeMike> fme: cryptsetup luksOpen, then you'll be able to find the lv, you can mkfs it then to format the lv.
[06:28] <jjast73> nite all
[06:28] <red2kic> fme: If you can access in, I suppose you could luksOpen and then proceed with the alternative installer.
[06:29] <fme> hrm
[06:29] <fme> ok
[06:29] <fme> lemme try this with the alternate installer
[06:29] <ubuntu_> i can mount my harddisk from my computer
[06:29] <Loshki> SwedeMike: "lvm and luks madness". I couldn't have put it better myself...
[06:29] <ubuntu_> sorry i cant mount\
[06:30] <Vin73> hello how do I install nurses development package on lucid?
[06:30] <SuNk8> ubuntu_, what's the problem, any error messages?
[06:30] <ubuntu_> yes
[06:30] <SuNk8> ubuntu_, which
[06:31] <ubuntu_> SuNK8http://pastebin.org/387132
[06:31] <Vin73> hello?
[06:31] <ubuntu_> SuNk8, iam using ubuntu with out install now
[06:31] <SwedeMike> Loshki: I don't agree, I think it's perfectly logical. I've moved a working system from unencrypted multipartition to encrypted lvm, but I kind of cheated and left / unencrypted and only encrypted /usr and /var and /home put those on lvm
[06:32] <SuNk8> ubuntu_, u mean u r in Live Session?
[06:32] <ubuntu_> SuNk8,because before i restart used recovery some thing like these i think that was probloum
[06:32] <ubuntu_> SuNk8,yes
[06:32] <fme> ok
[06:32] <Vin73> hello, does anyone know how to get ncurses development package on lucid?
[06:32] <SwedeMike> Loshki: encrypting / is a bit harder though, because there are so much things that need to work properly to have an initrd/busybox that has all the information and drivers to properly mount /, so I didn't bother with that.
[06:32] <fme> i got /dev/mapper/logic/sysroot formated with ext4fs
[06:33] <fme> well mkfs.ext4
[06:33] <SuNk8> ubuntu_, how does that partision show up in GParted or Disk Utility? is the filesystem recognised?
[06:33] <fme> how can i tell the alternate installer to install there?
[06:33] <ubuntu_> SuNk8, when i switch the computer before grub coming it say (file error)
[06:33] <ubuntu_> SuNk8, GPARTED say unlocated
[06:33] <Loshki> SwedeMike: we should probably move to -offtopic, but I see too many people come here with encrypted partitions they can no longer decrypt, or lvms they can no longer access. Combining the two just multiplies the complexity...
[06:33] <SuNk8> ubuntu_,  are you getting the grub prompt like 'grub>' or are you getting Error 17?
[06:34] <ubuntu_> SuNk8, no i get just this error
[06:34] <SuNk8> ubuntu_, the partition is messed up, r u dualbooting windows by any chance?
[06:35] <ubuntu_> SuNk8,no
[06:35] <fme> red2kic I can unlock with cryptsetup but how do i tell the alt installer to use that decrypted lvm?
[06:36] <red2kic> fme: Point it to the correct path in partitions?
[06:36] <SwedeMike> Loshki: yes, I agree, it's a lot harder to rescue such a system, especially if you add raid1 of the system drive in there as well. Security and flexibility is complex.
[06:36] <fme> it only wants to make new partitions
[06:36] <red2kic> fme: Don't make a new partition? Don't delete it? I would suggest you to make a backup first.
[06:37] <SuNk8> Try running a sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda, do u see ur partition thr?
[06:37] <SuNk8> ubuntu_, Try running a sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda, do u see ur partition thr?
[06:38] <ubuntu_> SuNk8,http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/9ZpGdAGQ
[06:38] <Loshki> fme: you know, if this data is so important, you should just go out and buy a 1TB disk and copy the whole thing. Disks have never been cheaper...
[06:38] <dontput> im also having problem :((
[06:38] <ChangeL> Akuma_s :P
[06:38] <ChangeL> ia no? xD
[06:38] <dontput> same problem*
[06:39] <fme> yea but i also just moved halfway across the country, not exactly rolling in money
[06:39] <red2kic> fme: I'm downloading alternative iso for my own experiences.
[06:39] <SuNk8> ubuntu_, the partition table's really messed up. I had a similar problem once. Have u tried testdisk before?
[06:39] <Akuma_s> Ya ChangeL
[06:40] <Akuma_s> :D
[06:40] <SuNk8> ubuntu_, In 99% cases, your data is still there.
[06:40] <ubuntu_> SuNk8,yess i think that was probloum
[06:40] <Loshki> fme: I sympathize, but it's pretty much your only solid protection against making some horrendous mistake while using the installer...
[06:40] <ubuntu_> SuNk8, what should i do?
[06:40] <fme> i know =[
[06:40] <AfC> What is the file in /etc (presumably) that dictates the locale of a system?
[06:41] <SuNk8> ubuntu_, go to http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step and try to recover the partition table using 'deeper search'. It worked for me.
[06:41] <SuNk8> ubuntu_, be sure to back up important data first...
[06:42] <ubuntu_> SuNk8, i dont know how using this application
[06:42] <fme> ok
[06:42] <fme> i opened another shell and unlocked the lvm
[06:42] <fme> its showing up now
[06:42] <fme> im going to use the alt installer to reinstall like normal
[06:42] <SuNk8> It's quite simple... That link is a step by step tutorial...
[06:42] <SuNk8> ubuntu_, It's quite simple... That link is a step by step tutorial...
[06:43] <red2kic> fme: Now you can install it?
[06:43] <Mogga> just messed up my /etc/network/interfaces file and i'm an idiot... how can i startup without network to adjust it?
[06:43] <ubuntu_> SuNk8, i afraid to lose them which are still i have
[06:44] <SuNk8> ubuntu_, that risk does exist... but thr's another thing...
[06:44] <abhi_nav> Mogga, clear what you want to do
[06:44] <SuNk8> ubuntu_,  do u need the whole partition? or some data from it?
[06:44] <SuNk8> ubuntu_, u can recover some data from that partition without messing anything up...
[06:45] <Mogga> abhi_nav: i tried to setup bonding using http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9517694&postcount=17 and now it's frozen on startup
[06:45] <Loshki> fme: ok, if it's anything like a regular install, there'll be an option 'manual partitioning' where you get to select which filesystems to use...
[06:45] <fme> Loshki yea that's what im doing
[06:45] <SuNk8> abhi_nav,  मेरा भारत महान!!!
[06:46] <abhi_nav> SuNk8, yes. I know. I copied my leaving msg? Its my copyright :P give me royslty. :P :D :)
[06:47] <abhi_nav> SuNk8, **you copied**
[06:47] <SuNk8> ubuntu_, when u use testdisk, use p to list files and copy them to another portion on the harddisk, at least u'll get some data back...
[06:47] <Loshki> Mogga: how about: boot the live cd and then mount and edit /etc/network/interfaces ?
[06:47] <fme> thanks for the help, i think i can reinstall without overwriting everything
[06:47] <rollman> what is going on when you are in a directory and you run a program in assembly that changes the directory to nothing but your still in the directory and can list everything in the directory and the program terminates with an exit and ends up back in the directory you started with?
[06:47] <fme> but i need to get a hdd to backup everythign first, just in case
[06:47] <Loshki> fme: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145286&cm_re=500GB-_-22-145-286-_-Product
[06:47] <ubuntu_> SuNk8,it say there ia no file
[06:47] <Mogga> Loshki: that's my next step....
[06:48] <Mogga> wondering if there's any other way
[06:48] <fme> Loshki walmart has those freeagent drives, 500 gig for about $80
[06:48] <fme> notebook drive size
[06:49] <fme> bed time, night night
[06:49] <abhi_nav> SuNk8, chich city?
[06:49] <ubuntu_> SuNk8,  i need to recover my application not data
[06:49] <Loshki> Mogga: maybe a single user boot? If you can get a shell, you can edit the interface file...
[06:49] <Loshki> fme: best of luck...
[06:49] <fme> thanks =]
[06:50] <red2kic> fme: Just curious. Alternative have apt-get, aptitude, etc?
[06:50] <red2kic> fme: (In the terminal). Because boot.img.gz (netbook) does not. :P
[06:50] <Mogga> Loshki: how do i do a single user boot?
[06:50] <red2kic> netboot*
[06:50] <fme> red2kic no idea, laptop is shutdown for the night, work in 4 hours or so , its sleepy time
[06:50] <Alazair> so im attempting a http server for files like iso mp3 avi and just other exe and misc stuff any ideas?
[06:51] <ubuntu_> what i do to not losing my application that i downloaded
[06:51] <IdleOne> !warez | Alazair
[06:51] <abhi_nav> !aptoncd | ubuntu_
[06:52] <Loshki> Mogga: with lucid, if you press <esc> while booting, you should get a grub menu, and there's usually an entry to boot single user you can select using the arrow keys...
[06:52] <abhi_nav> Mogga, yes as Loshki there is an entry for single user boot or recovery partition try that
[06:53] <Alazair> ubottu its not for warez of any kind :P
[06:53] <IdleOne> Loshki: in Lucid its shift
[06:53] <Sam_Fisher> How do I make a music file open with Rhythm box instead of Music player? I see an option to navagate to a different player but I don't understand where Rhythm box is.
[06:53] <Alazair> its for when im not at home
[06:53] <Loshki> Mogga: no guarantee it will work, but once you've done it, you'll see it's quick and easy...
[06:53] <Alazair> blaw silly bot
[06:54] <kop> IdleOne, that was a little quick to judgment with out knowing the files in question
[06:54] <Loshki> Mogga: did you see above what IdleOne says? In Lucid its <shift>, not <esc> as I originally said...
[06:54] <kop> Alazair, look into mythubuntu
[06:54] <ubuntu_> ubottu, thanks good idea i remembered
[06:55] <abhi_nav> Sam_Fisher, right  click =properties =openwith=selectr your program
[06:55] <ubuntu_> ubottu, but i use live cd how i can burn ?
[06:55] <Mogga> Loshki: i'm running karmic...
[06:55] <Mogga> Loshki: more stable kvm
[06:55] <Sam_Fisher> abhi_nav, I don't know where to point it :-(
[06:56] <dontput> can someone help me? how to figure this out? ubuntu@login:~$ sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[06:56] <dontput> fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[06:56] <dontput> e2fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[06:56] <dontput> fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda1
[06:56] <FloodBot1> dontput: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:56] <dontput> im new to ubuntu linux
[06:56] <Alazair> kop isnt mythbuntu just a media player htpc media player and streamer i just want like a web page access to files doesnt need ot be fancy or stream
[06:56] <abhi_nav> ubuntu_, aptoncd first only creat iso image you can then save this imo image only and after resotre archives from this iso file only no need towrite this iso file tocd
[06:56] <chanti> I am using ubuntu10, Dell inspiron is my system, sound coming from head phone only, but not working inbuilt speakers, anybody help please
[06:56] <Loshki> Mogga: so you wanna try it? It's gonna be one of <shift> or <esc>. Try both...
[06:56] <jonc> hi, can somebody assist me with a fresh install of 10.04 on an HP dv6000 laptop? i cant seem to get the network adapters working correctly.
[06:56] <abhi_nav> Sam_Fisher, there is all program listed
[06:56] <Loshki> IdleOne: tx, btw...
[06:57] <red2kic> dontput: You can't fsck a live partition.
[06:57] <abhi_nav> Sam_Fisher, also when you right click on song=open with=last optiont=other application=select there your application
[06:57] <ubuntu_> aphi_nav, where i save iso ?
[06:57] <ShapeShifter499> is it possible to take 25 gigs of stuff and compress it into 10 gigs or lower? if so how?
[06:57] <dontput> so what im going to do?
[06:57] <abhi_nav> ubottu, when you use aptoncd it will automatically create iso for you you can give it location where to store
[06:57] <chanti> jonc: did you observe notification area
[06:57] <dontput> i just followed some guide but its not workin
[06:57] <Ranjan> hello every body does any body know how to monitor temperature in ubuntu 10.04  any help would be of great help
[06:57] <red2kic> jonc: You sure it's not the wifi card? I recall a problem with that model (my sister's laptop)
[06:58] <ShapeShifter499> I want to back up my netbook system
[06:58] <abhi_nav> ohh sorry my mistake
[06:58] <[Screamo]> is it safe to uninstall rhythmbox, fspto ect?
[06:58] <abhi_nav> ubuntu_, , when you use aptoncd it will automatically create iso for you you can give it location where to store
[06:58] <[Screamo]> *fspot
[06:58] <Alazair> there was an archiver for windows called like kdb or something like that that did insane compression ShapeShifter499
[06:58] <jonc> @chanti sorry im new - what notification area?
[06:58] <abhi_nav> [Screamo], safe means? they are just one of the aps? you can easily uninstall them
[06:58] <dontput> red2kic i just followed a guide. so what im going to do next now?
[06:58] <Loshki> dontput: please pastebin the output of 'fdisk -l' to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com. Note that it's a lower-case L in that command...
[06:59] <chanti> jonc: top panel, mouse over beside battery icon
[06:59] <ubuntu_> ubottu, sorry but i meant to recover my last application that was in harddisk
[06:59] <ShapeShifter499> Alazair what about for linux
[06:59] <ShapeShifter499> ?
[06:59] <Alazair> im sure you could use wine
[06:59] <holocene> mp3 jpgs and other binaries will not compress much
[06:59] <Alazair> http://kgbarchiver.net/
[06:59] <rollman> rhythmbox is cool can play my itunes downloads
[06:59] <abhi_nav> ubuntu_, also note that apton cd only backup the archieve of yoru 'installed' softwares. at the time of restore you manual have to install all software. apcon dont do anythign automatically. read aptocn guide first
[06:59] <ubuntu_> ubottu, now iam using live cd i dont have application to backup
[06:59] <[Screamo]> i prefer exaile or audacious gtk =/
[06:59] <MaRk-I> !sensors | Ranjan
[07:00] <jonc> chanti: wireless networks: disconnected
[07:00] <ubuntu_> aphi_nav, i use live cd not my root session
[07:00] <[Screamo]> im just trying to free up space and want to uninstall some of the apps installed by default
[07:00] <abhi_nav> !tab | ubuntu_
[07:00] <abhi_nav> ubottu, still you can use aptoncd.
[07:00] <abhi_nav> oh no what is this going on
[07:00] <chanti> jonc: go to notification area, then observe all networks are enabled or not
[07:01] <abhi_nav> ubuntu_, , still you can use aptoncd.
[07:01] <ubuntu_> aphi_nav, how where they are?
[07:01] <abhi_nav> !tab > ubuntu_
[07:01] <Clubfoot> is there a chat on this server with a discussions of gaming in ubuntu?
[07:01] <ShapeShifter499> Alazair I can't find that tool your talking about
[07:01] <abhi_nav> ubuntu_, you install aptoncd from ubuntu software center
[07:01] <jonc> chanti: all connections are enabled
[07:01] <Loshki> [Screamo]: I've always been disappointed by how little space you save by removing apps. Are you sure that's where all your space has gone?
[07:02] <ubuntu_> aphi_nav, i did
[07:02] <sunny_1219> hi
[07:02] <[Screamo]> Think so
[07:02] <chanti>  I am using ubuntu10, Dell inspiron is my system, sound coming from head phone only, but not working inbuilt speakers, anybody help please
[07:02] <abhi_nav> ubuntu_, use proper nicks. you can write some initials of nick and then press tab and nick will automatically complete. its needed to highlight here. so many traffic
[07:03] <abhi_nav> ubuntu_, you instaled aptoncd?
[07:03] <[Screamo]> wth is byobu window manager and why is it installed >.>
[07:03] <ubuntu_> Aphi_nav , yes
[07:03] <Loshki> [Screamo]: if you're running lucid, I think there's a diskspace usage analyzer in one of the menus...
[07:03] <ubuntu_> abhi_nav, yes
[07:04] <dontput> Loshki: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/RiJ1u5hj
[07:04] <abhi_nav> ubuntu_, I was just telling you that aptoncd is one software. you sure you wanted to do this only? I mean backing up archieve? if not plaease repet what you want to do.
[07:04] <red2kic> [Screamo]: You can greatly free up the space by purchasing more storages. It's efficient method.
[07:04] <[Screamo]> red2kic, indeed it is, but i am jobless and have no money
[07:04] <chanti> jonc: open control panel, then type "sudo wvdial" , then give your password
[07:05] <ubuntu_> abhi_nav, i want to back up my application
[07:05] <rollman> what is going on when you are in a directory and you run a program in assembly that changes the directory to nothing but your still in the directory and can list everything in the directory and the program terminates with an exit and ends up back in the directory you started with?
[07:05] <ShapeShifter499> Alazair I found something that seems to be the tool you were talking about
[07:05] <ubuntu_> abhi_nav, but my probloum is iam not in my root session i use live cd now
[07:05] <abhi_nav> ubuntu_, it will not backup your application. it will back your application's setup files. so that you can install those application later on. is it ok?
[07:05] <ShapeShifter499> Alazair its called KGB Achriver
[07:06] <ShapeShifter499> Alazair *Archiver
[07:06] <holocene> rollman, I believe you can not change a directory with a subprocess
[07:06] <Alazair> that would be it :P
[07:06] <Loshki> [Screamo]: buyobu seems to be installed by default on lucid. No idea what it's for. Something to do with the "screen" program, which is kind of old technology...
[07:06] <rollman> hmmm i did
[07:06] <ShapeShifter499> Alazair and they have an beta source that could be built on a linux system
[07:07] <jonc> chanti: "sudo: wvdial: command not found"
[07:07] <holocene> rollman, you mean you deleted files in a directory?
[07:07] <rollman> no their still there
[07:07] <abhi_nav> ubuntu_, you first go thruou apton cd guide so you will understand what it does. if it is what you want then you do.
[07:07] <ShapeShifter499> Alazair thanks for pointing it out, I'll give it a whirl
[07:07] <holocene> rollman, what was the purposes of the assy program?
[07:08] <Loshki> dontput: that's nice, but it's not what I asked for :-). I wanted to see the output from 'sudo fdisk -l'
[07:08] <Alazair> ShapeShifter i used that on windows to compress wow's mpq files from 10gigs to like 900 megs
[07:08] <ubuntu_> abhi_nav, i dont want this to download all package again
[07:08] <Alazair> took almost a week to do tho
[07:08] <[Screamo]> lol
[07:08] <[Screamo]> heh
[07:08] <abhi_nav> ubottu, it will not download anything from internet. I insist that you read aptocn help guide first.
[07:08] <rollman> originally to execute a program but decided to try something different and used the system call to change directory
[07:08] <ShapeShifter499> Alazair a week?? D=
[07:08] <abhi_nav> ubuntu_, , it will not download anything from internet. I insist that you read aptocn help guide first.
[07:08] <[Screamo]> after 5 hours of waiting for it to compress a 100mb file i gave up =/
[07:09] <abhi_nav> can I tell him to change his nick? I guess its his temporari nick
[07:09] <Alazair> yea the mpq's are already compressed but 10gigs of already compressed into like 900megs is a feat :P
[07:09] <dontput> Loshki: look at your pm
[07:09] <Alazair> it was on a old amd 2800 with like a gig of ram box :P
[07:09] <MaRk-I> abhi_nav: press tab twice or ubu then tab :P
[07:09] <Alazair> had low priority to lol
[07:09] <abhi_nav> MaRk-I, :)
[07:09] <Jordan_U> ShapeShifter499: xz has incredible compression, but it takes a long time as well. I would use it over a proprietary option.
[07:09] <ShapeShifter499> Alazair I need to send this netbook out for repair ASAP, the web cam broke, and I need to backup like 25+ gigs of stuff
[07:10] <ubuntu_> abhi_nav,  i know that but i dont download all package again after i installed ubuntu
[07:10] <Mogga> Loshki: <esc> but the filesystem is read only
[07:10] <Alazair> why not just clone the drive?
[07:10] <Alazair> and use clonezilla to a nas?
[07:10] <chanti> jonc: do one thing, " sudo apt-get install wvdial" in command prompt, then you have to give password
[07:10] <Loshki> dontput: Again, that's not what I asked for. You sent 'df -h'. I asked for 'sudo fdisk -l'
[07:10] <Jordan_U> ShapeShifter499: What type of data do you need to back up?
[07:10] <ShapeShifter499> Alazair no space to put it D=
[07:10] <abhi_nav> ubuntu_, no at the time of restoration it will not download 'all' packages' from net. it 'may' need to downoad 'some' package to download but majority will be in your hdd only.
[07:10] <Alazair> you dont have a networked pc laying around?
[07:10] <Alazair> :S
[07:11] <ShapeShifter499> Jordan_U: things like music, documents, etc
[07:11] <abhi_nav> ubuntu_, see as Alazair is suggestion clonezilaa is one option
[07:11] <Alazair> my recommendation is this
[07:11] <abhi_nav> !clonezilla | ubuntu_
[07:11] <Jordan_U> ShapeShifter499: Music won't compress to that extent since it's already compressed.
[07:11] <Loshki> Mogga: run fsck -p on it, then you can remount it rw, mount -o remount,rw or something, check your man page..
[07:11] <Alazair> go to wallyworld or whatever go grab an 80gig usb drive and use clonezilla to image the drive so you dont have to completely start from scratch
[07:11] <jonc> chanti: E: Couldn't find package wvdial
[07:11] <Alazair> 80gig usb external is like 40 bucks now tops
[07:12] <ubuntu_> abhi_nav, i dont understood clonezilla
[07:12] <abhi_nav> Alazair, can you please explain him what is clonezilla?
[07:12] <ShapeShifter499> alazair its better if I start from scratch
[07:13] <Alazair> well your best route is to still get a external hd
[07:13] <Alazair> uhh Clonezilla is a drive imaging program
[07:13] <ShapeShifter499> alazair :/
[07:13] <abhi_nav> Alazair, i mean to ubuntu_ ?
[07:13] <dontput> Loshki:  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/mqYwwZQi
[07:13] <Loshki> rollman: still there?
[07:13] <Alazair> ubuntu_ Clonezilla is a imaging software its like taking a picture of your hd and you can go back to in the future if something happens
[07:14] <chanti> jonc: did you enter in root user or not
[07:14] <abhi_nav> someone please execute that clonezila factoid. I dont know exact
[07:14] <rollman> loshki yeah
[07:15] <Alazair> Clonezilla, based on DRBL, Partclone and udpcast, allows you to do bare metal backup and recovery. Two types of Clonezilla are available, Clonezilla live and Clonezilla SE (server edition). Clonezilla live is suitable for single machine backup and restore. While Clonezilla SE is for massive deployment, it can clone many (40 plus!) computers simultaneously. Clonezilla saves and restores only used blocks in the harddisk. This increases the
[07:15] <Alazair> clone efficiency. At the NCHC's Classroom C, Clonezilla SE was used to clone 41 computers simultaneously. It took only about 10 minutes to clone a 5.6 GBytes system image to all 41 computers via multicasting!
[07:15] <GonardFreeman> can i do from ny ububtu 10.04 xubuntu 10.04 without reistalation, and how?
[07:15] <Vin73> hello, can someone tell me which is the default audio driver that comes with lucid, alsa or oss?
[07:15] <s3r3n1t7> Alazair, that solves a problem for my at work. Where can i find more info about this?
[07:15] <abhi_nav> GonardFreeman, what? do you want to install xubuntu on ubuntu? if not please clear
[07:16] <Alazair> clonezilla.org
[07:16] <[Screamo]> Vin73, i think is alsa
[07:16] <maco> Vin73: ubuntu uses alsa. it's whats in the kernel
[07:16] <s3r3n1t7> Alazair, thank you
[07:16] <MaRk-I> GonardFreeman: you mean have xfce desktop?
[07:16] <Alazair> np
[07:16] <maco> Vin73: oss is not part of the upstream kernel
[07:16] <Vin73> maco: is there a command that lists the driver?
[07:16] <chanti> jonc : you have to enter into root user. commands are "su" ,then you have to give root password
[07:16] <ubuntu_> i cant find clonezilla package
[07:16] <maco> Vin73: lsmod | grep snd <-- will list the modules
[07:16] <GonardFreeman> abhi_nav, i've had xubuntu, and then i've update it, and now i have ubuntu( i prefer xubuntu)
[07:17] <MaRk-I> Vin73: pulseaudio with alsa
[07:17] <Vin73> maco: thanks
[07:17] <abhi_nav> ubuntu_, see this http://clonezilla.org/
[07:17] <abhi_nav> GonardFreeman, so now you have both xubuntu and ubuntu. ok. so what you want to do with them now?
[07:17] <Vin73> MaRk-I, Screamo: thanks
[07:17] <Loshki> dontput: you have no /dev/sda1. But you *do* have /dev/hda1. You can't fsck it though, because it's the system partition, so it's in use...
[07:18] <GonardFreeman> MaRk-I, no, before update i've xubuntu, but hten i've update it and nave it says that i have ubuntu)
[07:18] <Loshki> dontput: please don't pm or DCC chat me...
[07:18] <jonc> chanti: "su: authentication failure" - i'm sure i'm entering the correct password
[07:18] <GonardFreeman> abhi_nav, i dont have both
[07:18] <dontput> Loshki:  Ok ok.. so what would i do next?
[07:18] <ubuntu_> thanks every onee
 abhi_nav, i've had xubuntu, and then i've update it, and now i have ubuntu( i prefer xubuntu)
[07:18] <GonardFreeman> abhi_nav, there is only ubuntu
[07:18] <Loshki> dontput: remind me, what problem were you trying to solve?
[07:18] <abhi_nav> GonardFreeman, ok so whats the issue now?
[07:19] <MaRk-I> GonardFreeman: if you did an "online" upgrade you should still have xubuntu, if you upgraded from an ubuntu cd instead of xubuntu you could install the xubuntu desktop
[07:19] <GonardFreeman> abhi_nav,  how i can update ubuntu xubuntu(if i can say that?)
[07:19] <Loshki> rollman: were you using chdir() in your program?
[07:19] <dontput> Loshki:  to fix and not using livedisk nymore?
[07:19] <abhi_nav> GonardFreeman, first see what MaRk-I is saying. please clear us what is your situation
[07:19] <Vin73> maco: when I run the command, I see that oss is the built-in driver...as part of the command output I see snd_mixer_oss, snd_pcm_oss et al.
[07:19] <GonardFreeman> MaRk-I, oh, thx, i've made online update
[07:20] <pooky> can anyone recommend a good task management system for ubuntu? I tried tasque, but it seems to crash often.
[07:20] <maco> Vin73: those are emulators for oss
[07:20] <maco> Vin73: for old programs that dont speak alsa
[07:20] <MaRk-I> GonardFreeman: then you should have xubuntu , unless you unstalled "ubuntu-desktop"
[07:20] <Joshmuffin> anyone pro with dual monitors with an ati card in ubuntu10.04
[07:20] <rollman> no i used movl $12, %eax
[07:20] <Vin73> maco: what is the command output that would inform me that alsa is available?
[07:20] <Vin73> maco: I don't see any output text that says alsa
[07:20] <Loshki> dontput: are you running from the live cd right now?
[07:21] <chanti> jonc: no. you enter your user password, but you have to give root password
[07:21] <rollman> that's system call to chdir
[07:21] <GonardFreeman> MaRk-I, i have new qustion.  at start i write gnome panel to open task bar, is there some "xubuntu-panel"?
[07:21] <maco> Vin73: i have patches in the alsa that's in ubuntu's kernel...
[07:21] <Karen_m> something is weird;  on my lan.. after a while the ubuntu will set itself up as the 'router' or something.  With ubuntu plugged into the router, everything stops functioning after a period of time, as soon as I unplug ubuntu, the network is back to normal.  Has anyone heard of this?
[07:22] <maco> Vin73: snd_* modules are from the alsa-kernel tree
[07:22] <dontput> Loshki:  yes
[07:22] <MaRk-I> GonardFreeman: no idea, but you can try, dont you have graphical login?
[07:22] <Vin73> maco: ok...so if you see snd_* output, it should inform you that alsa is present, am I correct?
[07:23] <jonc> chanti: ok, figured that part out-i didnt have a password set.
[07:23] <GonardFreeman> MaRk-I, nope( long time ago i've exit from system and it disapears)
[07:23] <maco> Vin73: believe so
[07:23] <chanti> jonc: no way, you must give root password at the time of OS installation
[07:24] <maco> Vin73: cat /proc/asound/version
[07:24] <maco> Vin73: thatll tell you the alsa version
[07:24] <Loshki> dontput: from the live cd, it's ok to run: sudo fsck -p /dev/hda1
[07:24] <GonardFreeman> abhi_nav, do u now is there some "xubuntu-panel", like gnome-panel?
[07:25] <jonc> chanti: apparently it had only set the user password. i had to run "sudo passwd" and set root password. *shrug*
[07:25] <chanti> jonc: No prob
[07:25] <abhi_nav> GonardFreeman, better to ask in #xubuntu. I dont know much about xfce. never used it.
[07:25] <Alazair> hey i have a weird problem i cant unmount my 750gig data drive im trying to repartition it to ext4
[07:25] <Vin73> maco: ok thanks a lot, the reason I asked was I need to install zoiper softphone on my system...and the softphone comes in both oss and alsa variants...so I will go ahead and install the alsa variant...thanks again
[07:25] <Loshki> rollman: chdir() runs in a child process created by the shell. The parent process (the shell) is unaffected by the chdir that happens in its child. Does that make sense?
[07:26] <Alazair> fstab has it auto mount but it wont let me unmount it even with gksu
[07:26] <jonc> chanti: i tried wvdial again but under root - still the same
[07:26]  * GonardFreeman cat /dev/ass > /dev/head)))
[07:26] <rollman> i can still list everything in directory but it's all white and program still runs and i can run it again and it takes dir further out and each time i run the program i have to exit each time for every run
[07:26] <ubuntu_> i recovered some files by testdisk but i dont know where they gone?
[07:26] <indus> Alazair, what message u get
[07:26] <chanti> jonc: oh....., let me see
[07:26] <Alazair> i think i figured out why lol
[07:26] <Morten_> hey, how do I copy a file from a system that I have to access like #ssh asd@server1 #ssh asd@server2?
[07:26] <Alazair> had vlc running on the big screen with a movie playing in the other room
[07:26] <maco> Vin73: np
[07:26] <rollman> it's weird program
[07:26] <indus> Morten_, using scp
[07:26] <dontput> Loshki:  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/B72w0dng
[07:27] <Morten_> indus, but how do I get to server two using scp?
[07:27] <Morten_> that is my problem
[07:27] <holocene> rollman, whatis purpose of program?
[07:27] <MaRk-I> GonardFreeman: I agree you should try #xubuntu I'm not familiar either, but gdm gives you a choice of what desktop environment you want to use if you have more than 1 installed
[07:28] <dontput> Loshki:  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/B72w0dng
[07:28] <GonardFreeman> MaRk-I, what is this GDM?)
[07:28] <rollman> it was originally used to try run an example program but ELF wasn't found so i switched it to system call chdir
[07:28] <indus> Morten_, for example to copy to the remote system scp -p #portnumber  filename yourname@Remote host : directory name
[07:28] <Loshki> dontput: that's very bad. Try: sudo fsck -b 8193 /dev/hda1
[07:28] <hellosir> um... sorry if this is a stupid question, but i got disconnected from an ssh session when i had stopped the ssh daemon - is there a way to get back in?
[07:28] <indus> Morten_, just follow this one http://www.hypexr.org/linux_scp_help.php
[07:29] <MaRk-I> GonardFreeman: the initial login window, graphical desktop login manager
[07:29] <holocene> rollman, so your program just does a chdir from assembly?
[07:29] <rollman> yes
[07:29] <indus> !scp
[07:29] <holocene> Then the answer about child process is correct.
[07:29] <MaRk-I> GonardFreeman: Gnome Display Manager
[07:29] <Alazair> !clonezilla
[07:30] <Morten_> indus, thanks alot :)
[07:30] <Alazair> !Clonezilla
[07:30] <Vin73> hello, how can I use a .deb file?
[07:30] <Alazair> hmm
[07:30] <GonardFreeman> oh thx
[07:30] <jagosix> Hello people
[07:30] <Alazair> !list
[07:30] <jagosix> Question
[07:30] <GonardFreeman> is there someone interesting, there xfce4-panel command, to run it)
[07:30] <dontput> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/uP2MRrdP
[07:30] <rollman> i can exit it like it still is running weird
[07:30] <jagosix> what can I use for ipod and itunes
[07:30] <dontput> Loshki:  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/uP2MRrdP
[07:30] <jagosix> instead of windows software ?
[07:30] <Loshki> rollman: well basically I'm telling you that you can't use chdir to change your current directory because it doesn't work how you think...
[07:31] <Voldenet> hm, isnt rhytmbox compatibile with ipod?
[07:31] <jagosix> dunno
[07:31] <jagosix> ?
[07:31] <jagosix> is it ?
[07:31] <rollman> i wish someone told my computer that lol
[07:31] <jagosix> is there someone that has an ipod
[07:31] <jagosix> ?
[07:31] <Mogga> Loshki: thanks for the help
[07:31] <Voldenet> Well i'm pretty sure that "songbird" is alternative
[07:32] <Vin73> hello, would appreciate it if someone could tell me what to do with a .deb file...
[07:32] <jagosix> songbird ?
[07:32] <Loshki> dontput: very bad I'm afraid. How did it get this way?
[07:32] <Loshki> Mogga: did you solve your problem?
[07:32] <Voldenet> ah, not anymore
[07:32] <jagosix> hhmmm... I'll look into that ..thanks
[07:32] <Voldenet> songbird was available on linux ;<
[07:32] <Alazair> curious why is a freshly formated ext4 drive 11.16gigs used?
[07:32] <dontput> Loshki:  when i tried to let my computer up the whole night and when i woke up it freezed and i restarted it.
[07:32] <Voldenet> Alazair, is this disk 'brand new'?
[07:32] <Mogga> Loshki: got the network up and running again after fixing a typo but the bond is definitely not happy... lots of malloc errors on startup
[07:33] <Voldenet> Use s.m.a.r.t. to find out wtf
[07:33] <Alazair> not the drive but the format yes
[07:33] <dontput> Loshki:  and there theres "init= bootarg" something to it
[07:33] <Alazair> 0 bad sectors
[07:33] <Alazair> 0 s.m.a.r.t. errors
[07:33] <Voldenet> Odd.
[07:33] <aristo> Vin73, .deb is a installer for debian based distributions
[07:33] <Loshki> Mogga: I bet the bonding code doesn't get exercised much...
[07:34] <Vin73> aristo: thanks, can I just execute the file?
[07:34] <aristo> Vin73, you can double click on it
[07:34] <nomad77> Vin73: try sudo gdebi foo.deb or sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[07:34] <abhi_nav> !deb | Vin73
[07:34] <dust_t> #mantis
[07:35] <Loshki> dontput: I'm worried that all your data may be lost. Was there anything important on that disk?
[07:35] <Vin73> ubottu: thanks, btw, what is kubuntu?
[07:35] <dontput> Loshki:  its like "Try passing init=bootarg"
[07:35] <Vin73> nomad77, aristo: thanks...
[07:35] <Voldenet> Vin73, Ubuntu includes gnome
[07:35] <dontput> Loshki:  oh noese? so im not gonna retreive it..
[07:35] <Voldenet> Kubuntu includes KDE
[07:35] <Voldenet> xubuntu includes xfce
[07:35] <Voldenet> fluxbuntu includes fluxbox
[07:35] <Voldenet> and so on
[07:35] <abhi_nav> !kde | Vin73
[07:36] <aristo> Vin73, np
[07:36] <rollman> that was 1 program that like u said shouldn't have worked but somehow it did and one program i wished i didn't accidentally erased the source file for
[07:36] <karma_police> i have a dumb question... if i dl the ubuntu iso from the site is it the current kernel and fully updated or is it the same iso that was released on release day?
[07:36] <Voldenet> same iso
[07:36] <maco> karma_police: at the moment, the same iso
[07:37] <abhi_nav> karma_police, same as that of on release date
[07:37] <maco> karma_police: on 29 july, 10.04.1 comes out, and that'll have all the updates up to that point included on the disc
[07:37] <chanti> jonc: did you on the wifi button in you system
[07:37] <dontput> Loshki:  ok so what ima going to do?
[07:37] <Loshki> dontput: I don't think init=bootarg will help, but it's ok to try it. You can also try running testdisk
[07:37] <Loshki> !testdisk
[07:38] <jagosix> do some of you here use more than just ubuntu ?
[07:38] <jonc> chanti: yep
[07:38] <maco> jagosix: i use red hat at work
[07:38] <jonc> chanti: however the LED does not change to indicate "on"
[07:38] <holocene> maco, you didn't mean 10.04, right?
[07:38] <karma_police> is there a daily build site to dl from? or a checkpoint date to wait on? the reason i am asking i use pendrive linux with persistence.. whenever i run an update that involes a ner kernal image it renders the flash drive useless and i have to start all over.. i'm a bit of a noob so i may be doing something wrong.
[07:39] <aristo> jagosix, at work rhel and debian, at home ubuntu, debian, jolicloud and sometimes fedora
[07:39] <maco> jagosix: used to use suse, solaris, aix, and debian at old job
[07:39] <chanti> jonc: after installation, did you upgrade the system
[07:39] <maco> holocene: LTS have point releases every 6mo, starting 3mo after initial releases
[07:39] <jagosix> I use PCLinuxOS 2010.1, Ubuntu 10.04 PPC/PC, Mint 9,
[07:39] <dontput> Loshki:  after testdisk?
[07:39] <s3r3n1t7> !offtopic
[07:39] <maco> holocene: those include the updates to that point. thisll be the first after 10.04's release, so 10.04.1
[07:39] <maco> jagosix: are you looking to compare distros?
[07:39] <Loshki> dontput: testdisk is a file recovery program: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[07:39] <karma_police> cool
[07:40] <jagosix> nah..
[07:40] <holocene> maco, ok now I understand. thnaks.
[07:40] <karma_police> i use pendrive ubuntu to troubleshoot windoze pc's
[07:40] <jagosix> I've already done that
[07:40] <jonc> chanti: no, i just finished installing 10.04. i have not done anything other than attempt to get the the laptop online
[07:40] <s3r3n1t7> jagosix, maco, mind taking the discussion about distro's to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[07:40] <maco> s3r3n1t7: i think it ended
[07:40] <jagosix> It's just that some distros install differently on some laptops
[07:40] <hellosir> dumb question - is there a way to get into a remote server to restart sshd?
[07:41] <maco> jagosix: youll have to test out ubuntu's livecd to see its hardware support
[07:41] <s3r3n1t7> hellosir, i'm afraid that, unless you have setup another means of remote access, there is no such way.
[07:41] <maco> jagosix: ubuntu's all ive run on hardware in recent years
[07:41] <jagosix> The main problem I have with ubuntu is the video setup and configuration.
[07:41] <s3r3n1t7> maco, it appears it hasn't.
[07:41] <maco> s3r3n1t7: except now it's about ubuntu
[07:41] <hellosir> s3r3n1t7: crap. thanks
[07:41] <Voldenet> jagosix, i'm guessing you're using ati, right?
[07:42] <maco> s3r3n1t7: so it's ontopic
[07:42] <chanti> jonc: ok fine. connect network wire. then type" sudo apt-get update" , then you to give password
[07:42] <jagosix> ya
[07:42] <Voldenet> well, ati does not give a crap about linux users
[07:42] <Loshki> hellosir: probably not.  It takes some time, depends on you net speed
[07:43] <jagosix> Gforce 61XX series
[07:43] <indus> jagosix, no i mean the ATI
[07:43] <dontput> Loshki:  anyways if ill not want to save my data's, what ima going to do now?
[07:44] <jagosix> my bad ..This is the one I have trouble with ubuntu on
[07:44] <indus> aristo, do you have an ATI card ?
[07:44] <jonc> chanti: i got a bunch of failed to fetch messages and "could not resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com" messages
[07:44] <dontput> Loshki:  unmount cdrom? and im done?
[07:44] <jagosix> the gforce 61xx series
[07:44] <aristo> indus, had
[07:44] <chanti> jonc: that means network continuously failure there
[07:44] <indus> aristo, well have you heard of ATI open source drivers?
[07:45] <aristo> indus, yes, tried and didn't like it
[07:45] <aristo> indus, video tearing drives me mad
[07:45] <indus> aristo, have you seen its performance today ? or of the new catalyst 10.6 driver
[07:45] <chanti> jonc: Type this command immediately "sudo apt-get update"
[07:46] <aristo> indus, recently no
[07:46] <chanti> jonc: then type "apt_get dist-upgrade"
[07:46] <indus> aristo, for those who prefer an open driver, ATI Is miles ahead of anyone
[07:46] <Loshki> dontput: if you don't mind about the data, just reinstall from the livecd. When it asks, tell it to ignore any existing distros. Choose ext3 as filesystem type, and this time, make /home on a separate partition so if you have to reinstall again, you can keep your data...
[07:46] <Voldenet> jagosix, did you try official nvidia drivers?
[07:46] <aristo> indus, nouveau drivers are good
[07:46] <indus> aristo, and with the new 10.6 catalyst, the difference from older one is significant
[07:46] <cggaurav> This is a simple query , though I am unable to find the solution online. If I want to run a C++ program I do ./helloworld from the current directory. How would I do it from lets say home/ ?
[07:46] <jagosix> yep..sure did.
[07:47] <indus> aristo, they aint as good as the ati ones yet but they will be\
[07:47] <Voldenet> cggaurav, what do you mean?
[07:47] <jagosix> I'll try it again later
[07:47] <chanti> jonc: drivers are not installed into your sys. that is the main problem. you have to upgrade your system
[07:47] <Voldenet> cd to your home
[07:47] <aristo> indus, have to check catalyst 10.6
[07:47] <Voldenet> and enter full path to program
[07:47] <aristo> maybe if i buy a nice 5850
[07:47] <indus> aristo, yes its actually awesome relatively speaking
[07:47] <Voldenet> like: /home/myprogs/helloworld
[07:47] <cggaurav> Voldenet : Lets say the program sits in home/a/b/c/helloworld.cpp
[07:47] <indus> aristo, they fixed the maximise minimise bug
[07:48] <prince_jammys> cggaurav: the './' is just a path that simply means 'in the current dir'. if you are elsewhere, you can type the path to the file.
[07:48] <cggaurav> Voldenet: How would I see the output without cd from home instead of c
[07:48] <cggaurav> ?
[07:48] <Voldenet> gcc /home/a/b/c/helloworld.cpp -o /home/a/b/c/helloworld
[07:48] <jonc> chanti: hahah - how ironic. gotta get online to upgrade so that i can get online. =D
[07:48] <Voldenet> then cd ~
[07:48] <indus> aristo, some minor issues with compiz but i had that issue with nvidia also , dont like compiz :)
[07:48] <Voldenet> /home/a/b/c/helloworld
[07:48] <Loshki> jonc: you aren't the first.... :-(
[07:48] <soreau> indus: What issues exactly?
[07:49] <cggaurav> Voldenet: gives me no output.
[07:49] <MaRk-I> jonc: are you using wireless?
[07:49] <aristo> indus, what about video tearing and wined3d?
[07:49] <cggaurav> Voldenet: though from c it does.
[07:49] <Voldenet> Well, put your sources on pastebin
[07:49] <jonc> mark-i: im trying to get either wired or wireless working
[07:49] <MaRk-I> jonc: oic, wired not working or is internet problems?
[07:49] <indus> aristo, ah no wine is still bad with ATI but i dont think that will be fixed, wine is anyway not a priority
[07:50] <indus> soreau, issues with ?
[07:50] <aristo> indus, no wine, no ati
[07:50] <jonc> mark-i: both wired and wireless are not working. fresh 10.04 install on HP dv6000 laptop.
[07:50] <MaRk-I> jonc: odd
[07:51] <indus> aristo, use windows for gaming, wine is anyway unsupported, i had nvidia before and that aint great either
 aristo, some minor issues with compiz but i had that issue with nvidia also , dont like compiz :) <-- whatever minor issues you're referring to here
[07:51] <indus> soreau, yes, some black color boxes sometimes in menus
[07:51] <aristo> indus, why if i can play with wine, i have a steam account with 15 game
[07:51] <aristo> s
[07:51] <indus> soreau, with ATI though
[07:51] <jagosix> kde4 I use its features over compiz.
[07:52] <soreau> indus: Can you provide a screenshot?
[07:52] <indus> soreau, actually, one thing i notice is, window border tear for dark themes
[07:52] <indus> soreau, iam at work now, so
[07:52] <indus> soreau, are you a dev for compiz ?
[07:53] <soreau> indus: You could say that ;)
[07:54] <indus> soreau, ok,are you aware of the window border gap when using alt tab etc?
[07:54] <chanti> I am using ubuntu10, Dell inspiron is my system, sound coming from head phone only, but not working inbuilt speakers, anybody help please
[07:54] <indus> soreau, i can see a light passing through it :)
[07:55] <indus> soreau, otherwise no other big issues with it , and with ATI fixing their drivers, after many years i finally start using compiz
[07:55] <soreau> indus: No, I'm not particularly familiar with that.. I thought you said black 'color boxes in menus' which is what I was hoping for a screenshot of
[07:55] <indus> soreau, ah thats a bit rare but even when i get that, on pressing prtscn it goes off
[07:56] <MaRk-I> jonc: right now is the laptop connected wired or trying wireless?
[07:56] <soreau> indus: Right.. so you want your decorations to adhere to the windows when wobbling?
[07:56] <indus> soreau, for example, on ubuntuforums website, when i keep mouse over the thread, it provides summary in a box, but i had it all grey box
[07:56] <jonc> mark-I: the laptop is connected wired
[07:56] <indus> soreau, ah yes yes exactly but no decorations, just plain window border
[07:56] <soreau> indus: window decorations *are* the window border in compiz
[07:57] <indus> soreau, oh heh ok
[07:57] <indus> soreau, i think it happens with lighter themes also but its not that visible
[07:57] <MaRk-I> jonc: can you ping a website or your router?
[07:57] <indus> soreau, but you have email ? i can send you screenshot if possible for those window boxes in firefox sometimes happens
[07:58] <jonc> mark-i: "network is unreachable"
[07:58] <jonc> mark-i: it appears the NIC drivers are not installed
[07:58] <soreau> ! paste | indus
[07:58] <indus> soreau, or ..... if iam online later (much later ) i can give you
[07:58] <soreau> indus: No need for email, see what ubottu has to say ;)
[07:58] <indus> soreau, its on home syhstem
[07:58] <soreau> indus: Use picpaste.com
[07:58] <MaRk-I> jonc: did you have this problems with the livecd?
[07:58] <indus> soreau, iam at work now
[07:59] <indus> soreau, ok ill find you somewhere here and ping you
[07:59] <indus> soreau, what about the window border thing? is there some setting for it?
[07:59] <soreau> indus: Setting to do what exactly?
[07:59] <indus> soreau, so no light passes through :)
[07:59] <airtonix> if i want to add a new user that is used for 'auto login without password' how would i do this ?
[08:00] <dontput> Loshki:  anyways, thank you so much loshki. im runnin TestDisk.. damn this one kick-ass software.
[08:00] <indus> soreau, it loosk like a tear , llooks bad
[08:00] <jonc> mark-i: regretfully, i didnt try the demo with livecd.
[08:00] <indus> soreau, with atl tab cover effect
[08:00] <soreau> indus: AFAIK, it's the way the driver handles things
[08:00] <Alazair> how can i find the uif of a drive?
[08:00] <arunkumar413> please tell me the product id and vendor of this usb modem:     Bus 005 Device 007: ID 12d1:1001 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E620 USB Modem
[08:00] <MaRk-I> jonc: oic, hmm odd hope you can get it to work
[08:00] <Alazair> so i can add a drive to fstab
[08:00] <indus> soreau,ok its driver issue hm
[08:00] <dontput> Loshki:  im currently copying my data.. and btw, any times for my next step?
[08:00] <soreau> indus: But I'd need to see a screenshot to know what you're talking about for sure
[08:01] <jonc> mark-i: i'll keep playing with it. thanks you very much for your help!
[08:01] <MaRk-I> jonc: paste the output of: sudo ifconfig
[08:01] <chanti> I am using ubuntu10, Dell inspiron is my system, sound coming from head phone only, but not working inbuilt speakers, anybody help please
[08:01] <airtonix> arunkumar413, device id are always two four digit numbers separated by a colon
[08:01] <soreau> indus: You can pm me with a screenshot, but here in this channel might get lost if I'm away for some time
[08:01] <arunkumar413> airtonix: then vendor?
[08:01] <airtonix> arunkumar413, actually two hexidecimal numbers speraated by colon
[08:02] <indus> soreau, ok so 2 things i mentioned, window border gap between border and main window, and 2. some times (rare ) black boxes in ff or menus probably
[08:02] <airtonix> arunkumar413, vendorid : deviceid
[08:02] <Alazair> how can i find the uif of a drive?
[08:02] <Alazair> so i can add a drive to fstab
[08:02] <airtonix> Alazair, read the ubuntu wiki page about fstab... its also uuid not uif.
[08:02] <indus> soreau, hey i need one help ? how to do anti aliasing wiht compiz, my borders are all jagged and ugly
[08:03] <xiaogui> Hi, guys. :) I downloaded some Chinese text files, it came in .rar files and i unrared them, but when it open the files, the contents are just unreadable, any solutions? Thanks in advance!
[08:03] <soreau> indus: 1) Known issue, likely driver bug 2) You would have to find a way to reliably reproduce the bug, then submit a bug report
[08:03] <MaRk-I> jonc: ugh never mind, if no internet how you're goint to paste xD
[08:03] <jonc> mark-i: i was just thinking that. hahah
[08:03] <soreau> indus: There is no FSAA with the open radeon drivers yet AFAIK
[08:04] <indus> soreau, no no i use ATI proprietary driver
[08:04] <MaRk-I> jonc: but there are NICs detected and have an IP ???
[08:04] <MaRk-I> with the ifconfig command I mean
[08:04] <cggaurav> Voldenet: http://paste.ubuntu.com/460993/
[08:04] <soreau> indus: Then you would use amdcccle
[08:04] <jonc> mark-i: its showing loopback
[08:04] <cggaurav> Voldenet: Excuse me for the delay.
[08:05] <MaRk-I> that's it? no eth0, eth1, wlan0?
[08:05] <indus> soreau, oh, so i need to use it from that ? no control from compiz itself ?
[08:05] <soreau> indus: It should have all the AA settings you want. But, IMHO, the open radeon driver is better overall
[08:05] <jonc> mark-i: it shows both wired and wireless adpaters when i use lspci. but for ifconfig, nothing.
[08:05] <soreau> indus: No, AA is all in the driver
[08:05] <soreau> indus: Compiz has no control over the drivers capabiliies
[08:05] <soreau> capabilities*
[08:05] <indus> soreau, it wont run games :) and even though i find the open source drivers till now great , 10.6 has changed my opinion
[08:05] <jonc> mark-i: also when i click on hardware drivers, nothing shows up - completely blank.
[08:06] <soreau> indus: What wont run games?
[08:06] <indus> soreau, quake 4 wont run with open drivers
[08:06] <MaRk-I> jonc: how did you install?
[08:06] <soreau> indus: In that case, you definitely need to ask in #radeon to get a better answer
[08:06] <jonc> mark-i: via CD
[08:07] <MaRk-I> jonc: try using the livecd mode, if it works then it might be a bad install
[08:07] <indus> soreau, i dont care about my drivers being open source :) but yes i asked in #radeon , just google for indus and radeon and it s first result from irc logs
[08:07] <soreau> indus: AFAIK, Q4 should run with open drivers, if not classic, then gallium
[08:07] <jonc> mark-i: ok, i'll give that a try
[08:08] <indus> soreau, its not about the driver, its about bits in quake 4 whihc are proprietary and cannot be run by it , s3tc texture compression
[08:08] <danjac> Hi, I've just done an upgrade on my Xubuntu install (Acer Aspire One netbook). Was working perfectly before. Now CouchDB immediately starts using up all the memory on start, and I have to kill it. Is there any good reason to keep CouchDB on my machine ?
[08:08] <MaRk-I> jonc: good luck
[08:08] <indus> soreau, i burnt my fingers learning it :)
[08:08] <indus> soreau, so the game reports , s3tc extentions not found
[08:09] <MaRk-I> danjac: not familiar with xfce, should try the #xubuntu channel
[08:09] <danjac> I'm not sure the problem is Xfce though
[08:09] <danjac> It looks like a memory leak in CouchDB
[08:09] <napo> hi everibody
[08:09] <soreau> indus: I can help you with that..
[08:09] <erasin> #buntu-cn
[08:10] <indus> soreau, you can ? :D wow
[08:10]  * MaRk-I afk...
[08:10] <soreau> indus: There is a lib for enabling this texture compression, sec
[08:10] <indus> soreau, i read about an external library called
[08:10] <soreau> (while I find the link)
[08:10] <danjac> but will try that channel, thanks
[08:10] <indus> soreau, i know but its not proper, i asked in #radeon
[08:11] <soreau> indus: Indeed, but have you tried it to see if it helps yet?
[08:11] <indus> soreau, yes i compiled it installed it etc, but it didnt run , but i think that was probably my mistake , i didnt do it right probably
[08:11] <cggaurav> Voldenet: I figured it out.;)
[08:12] <indus> soreau, ah no wait, i later installed a gui tool also :) damn easy
[08:12] <Voldenet> cggaurav, no problem ;P
[08:12] <indus> soreau, but i just couldnt run q4
[08:12] <soreau> indus: If you installed the lib correctly, you should see this in glxinfo output I believe *checks*
[08:12] <indus> soreau, yes i did see it
[08:13] <indus> soreau, but q4 still wouldnt run
[08:13] <indus> soreau, ther is actually a gui tool also to do it
[08:13] <donri> I installed kubuntu-desktop, now I don't want it; is there a simple and safe way to remove all packages installed as dependencies from kubuntu-desktop?
[08:14] <indus> soreau, yes package called DRICONF
[08:14] <indus> !Info driconf
[08:14] <indus> !info driconf
[08:15] <soreau> indus: You shouldn't need to mess with driconf since the open driver is smart enough at guessing what you need already as defaults
[08:15] <indus> soreau, well , smart i dont know, but back a few months ago when karmic was in alpha, i was stuck with ATI card adn no q4 so tried all things
[08:16] <indus> soreau, because fglrx wont support new x server 1.7 yet
[08:16] <indus> or xorg 1.7 whatever
[08:16] <soreau> indus: fglrx sucks
[08:16] <indus> soreau, its good enough for me
[08:16] <soreau> indus: Which card sis you say you have?
[08:16] <soreau> did*
[08:16] <indus> soreau, ATI 4850
[08:16] <soreau> indus: Oh yes, driconf wont work with fglrx, you want amdcccle
[08:16] <indus> soreau, for me open source driver sucks, it cant  play nothing
[08:17] <zoddan> just a long shot, anyone knows anything about ciso products? :P
[08:17] <iceroot> zoddan: #cisco
[08:17] <indus> soreau, they are smooth for regular use and compiz but slow gaming
[08:17] <Voldenet> ciso?
[08:17] <zoddan> cisco :P
[08:17] <indus> soreau, dont know if gaming is good today on them, but i hear it s not a priority
[08:17] <Voldenet> what products?
[08:18] <soreau> indus: Yes but it is getting better all the time. hopefully, r600g will be a lot better than what it is now
[08:18] <indus> soreau, anyways, i think all graphics drivers suck on all platforms
[08:18] <zoddan> Voldenet: well i got a cisco asa 5510 but i dont know what i can do with it :P
[08:18] <soreau> indus: By this time next year, I mean (for r600g)
[08:18] <scar_> how do I use llvmpipe? is it a driver that i can set in xorg.conf or do I just need to recompile mesa?
[08:18] <SonOfIslam> some one here is not a muslim???
[08:18] <iceroot> zoddan: Voldenet ##hardware. this is ubuntu support
[08:18] <indus> soreau, mine is r 700 isnt it ?
[08:18] <SonOfIslam> just kidding
[08:18] <soreau> indus: Yes, like I said all drivers have their strong points and weaknesses
[08:19] <indus> soreau, i liked the older days when one driver was good enough for many things
[08:19] <soreau> indus: r600* works for r6xx AND r7xx cards
[08:19] <Voldenet> I'm not intrested in hardware.
[08:19] <prince_jammys> /join ##software ?
[08:19] <soreau> indus: Yes well we're not in those times, we're in these times and we need people to help out to make the driver better for everyone
[08:19] <indus> soreau, i will help if you need
[08:19] <arunkumar413> location bar shows icons.i want the path to be shown
[08:20] <indus> soreau, my probl;em who will solve :)
[08:20] <indus> soreau, i want s3tc support
[08:20] <indus> soreau, good one
[08:20] <indus> soreau, so i use fglrx
[08:20] <soreau> indus: First thing I'd recommend is removing the fglrx driver so the open radeon driver can work
[08:20] <Vin73> hi can anyone tell me how to install libwxgtk on lucid?
[08:21] <indus> soreau, in #radeon they said, even if s3tc works, all textures will be broken
[08:21] <scar_> #llvm
[08:21] <indus> soreau, i play only 2 games ,q4 on linux, and bad company 2 windows
[08:21] <prince_jammys> !find wxgtk
[08:21] <indus> soreau, i set up a server too a few weeks back , come and play :)
[08:22] <soreau> indus: Well I give up. I would recommend giving the radeon drier another go by removing fglrx and installing a newer kernel (2.6.34 from ppa) and newer userspace components (from xorg-edgers ppa repo)
[08:22] <indus> soreau, i will install maverick alpha soon, so open driver i  will check there
[08:22] <Vin73> hello....
[08:22] <indus> soreau, dont give up on things you believe strongly about :)
[08:22] <indus> soreau, hehe
[08:23] <arunkumar413> file browser location bar shows the icons instead of path
[08:23] <indus> soreau, but are you saying, the newer driver will run my game ?
[08:23] <indus> you seem persistent
[08:23] <indus> soreau, iam happy with general performance of open driver even now
[08:24] <indus> soreau, its much smoother i know
[08:24] <soreau> indus: I don't give up on things I believe strongly about. I *do* give up on people who do not want to be helped ;)
[08:24] <fodder70> arunkumar413, hit ctrl+l for a list view
[08:24] <nbkr> Vin73, sudo apt-get install libwxgt2.8-0 (for version 2.8 obviously)
[08:25] <deusr> hi
[08:25] <soreau> indus: No, I am not saying the open driver will run any game, I'm saying if you cannot run something with the radeon driver, file a bug report on fdo and present it in an inviting manner to the radeon devs and you likely will get good support
[08:25] <indus> soreau, ok thanks for your suggestions, i will keep you in the loop
[08:25] <Vin73> nbkr: thanks
[08:26] <hoare> hi guys can anyone help me about mkinitramfs?
[08:26] <soreau> indus: For example I just got finished getting the radeon devs to fix compiz focus blur for my lowly rv350 card ;)
[08:26] <hasenj> hi, my ubuntu said i need to do a partial upgrade, after i did it and restarted, keyboard stopped working
[08:26] <nbkr> hoare, Just ask your question.
[08:26] <hasenj> not even ctrl-alt-f1 work
[08:26] <vaibhav> what is the address of paste bin
[08:26] <indus> soreau, focus blur whats that one
[08:26] <rambo3> how do I create user home folder after I add him ?
[08:26] <indus> rambo3, automatically created
[08:26] <nbkr> vaibhav, pastbin.org
[08:27] <indus> AFAIK
[08:27] <hasenj> i remember there was a dpkg-reconfigure console-something
[08:27] <nbkr> rambo3, Just copy /etc/skel to whatever the homedir of the user is.
[08:27] <soreau> indus: It's a component in the Blur Windows plugin in ccsm. On r6-7xx, I don't expect it to work quite yet
[08:28] <indus> soreau, i try using it, but not sure what it did,
[08:28] <rambo3> nbkr, so:  mkdir /home/newuser && cp -r /etc/skel /home/newuser ?
[08:28] <indus> soreau, also whats bicubic filter ?
[08:28] <nbkr> rambo3, That should do. Don't forget the "chmod" afterwards.
[08:28] <Anarchy7> hi all
[08:28] <Anarchy7> askhader:  you here ?
[08:28] <vaibhav>     *
[08:28] <vaibhav>     * dragMargin : real
[08:28] <vaibhav>     * flickDeceleration : real
[08:28] <vaibhav>     * highlight : Component
[08:28] <vaibhav>     * highlightItem : Item
[08:28] <FloodBot1> vaibhav: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:28] <nbkr> rambo3, and the chown/chgrp of course
[08:28] <vaibhav>     * highlightMoveDuration : int
[08:28] <soreau> indus: It should render things like rotate cube and enhanced desktop zoom more clearly
[08:29] <indus> soreau, ok
[08:29] <hoare> nbkr: I cloned my /lib/initramfs/init script as init2 and edited many things in it. however when i execute mkinitramfs -f init2 -o .    command and I boot generated image in that folder, it still uses old init script..
[08:29] <soreau> indus: Possibly at the expense of speed
[08:29] <indus> soreau, i think your r 350 is nt supported by fglrx
[08:29] <elric> hey,guys can somebody help me with making my remote in lucid?
[08:29] <indus> soreau, how did you get the devs to fix it?
[08:29] <indus> soreau, that blur thing
[08:29] <nbkr> hoare, did you tell grub which image to use?
[08:30] <soreau> indus: You are correct. rv350 is not supported. All r1xx-r5xx is no longer supported by fglrx
[08:30] <MaRk-I> elric: making what remote?
[08:30] <hoare> nbkr: nope. but it generates a initramfs file which is about 5mb.
[08:30] <soreau> indus: I got the devs to fix it by filing a bug and being there when they asked me to test patches against mesa
[08:30] <indus> soreau, ah hmm
[08:30] <elric> MaRK-I: ir remote control,the one u get with the laptos
[08:31] <MaRk-I> elric: ah no idea sorry
[08:31] <indus> soreau, ok
[08:31] <indus> soreau, good for you
[08:31] <indus> soreau,i file only ubuntu bugs but they are never fixed
[08:31] <indus> soreau, or maybe they are more fit upstream
[08:32] <indus> soreau, havent filed one for years though
[08:32] <bazhang> !ot
[08:32] <soreau> indus: There are so many bugs filed in launchpad (the place where ubuntu bugs are filed) many of them get disregarded
[08:32] <indus> soreau,i triaged a few, but its too much work :)
[08:33] <indus> soreau, need more volunteers
[08:33] <bazhang> indus, soreau please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:33] <soreau> indus: If you have a definite bug that you know is a radeon driver bug, you can file a detailed report on fdo (which means bugs.freedesktop.org) and talk to the developers in #radeon and #dri-devel
[08:34] <soreau> bazhang: This is not OT.
[08:34] <nbkr> hoare, This file has to go to /boot and you have to modify the grub config, so that the boot loader uses the new init script.
[08:34] <bazhang> soreau, chatting about how many bugs you file certainly is
[08:34] <soreau> It has directly to do with the fact that the radeon drivers are being heavily developed and ubuntu ships releases, not live builds
[08:35] <soreau> bazhang: It's not chatting, sorry. This is support.
[08:35] <soreau> If you don't like it, kick me
[08:35] <meatbun> anyone happened to have acer 533 netbook? how it perform with ubunt?
[08:35] <karma_police> is anyone familiar with pendrivelinux? or ubuntu with persistence on a usb drive?
[08:35] <meatbun> or the new 521 netbook
[08:36] <abhi_nav>  karma_police you want to burn ubuntu to usb pen drive? or what else?
[08:36] <hoare> nkbr: I want to use it on another computer without modifying mine. how can I do that + how can I specify my own init script?
[08:36] <hoare> nkbr: in wheich folder should I execute my init script
[08:36] <hoare> nbkr: sorry ^ look at previous msgs.
[08:36] <hoare> nbkr: does it matter in which folder I exec mkinitramfs?
[08:36] <karma_police> gb persistence
[08:37] <karma_police> i have burned ubuntu to agb flash drive with 2gb set aside for casper
[08:37] <karma_police> 4gb*
[08:38] <micw> hi
[08:38] <karma_police> keep getting system error saying i have no space left
[08:38] <nbkr> hoare, No, that doesn't matter. It's only important to put the resulting file in the appropriate folder i.e. /boot. Afterwards you have to reconfigure grub2 to use the new file. Have look here to see how grub2 can be configured. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[08:38] <micw> i run an ubuntu lucid under xen ad domU. the kernel boots and displays all messages. the initrd loads and displays messages as well. the last lines i see are Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ...
[08:38] <micw> Done.
[08:39] <karma_police> using 2gb for persistence and 2 gb for install.. should i have used 3gb for install and 1 gb for perststence on a 4gb usb?
[08:39] <micw> alle output after this is not shown in the xen console
[08:39] <abhi_nav> karma_police, to burn ubuntu it need approximately <= 1gb space.
[08:39] <micw> althought it seems to boot fine
[08:39] <micw> sometimes i can see output from fsck
[08:39] <micw> and i can see the init-output when shuting down
[08:39] <karma_police> i don't know why i am having space probs then...  i have it split in half.. 2gb for install and 2 gb for casper rw
[08:40] <micw> seems that from when init is started all output is redirected somewhere
[08:40] <karma_police> i ran the update tho.. maybe thats where my prob is
[08:40] <hoare_> nbkr: does it matter in which folder I exec mkinitramfs?
[08:40] <bullgard4> [GNOME] I have an chocolate-brown  login display image in Ubuntu 10.04. How can I determine its filename?
[08:40] <prince_jammys> bullgard4: i'd snoop around in gdm's config files.
[08:41] <karma_police> what is more important when creating a usb live? the persistence space or the other?
[08:41] <bullgard4> prince_jammys: I'll give it a try. --  Thank you.
[08:42] <prince_jammys> bullgard4: welcome
[08:47] <optical_> Hey all, I am trying to do 'apt-get install oidentd' but now the Ubuntu is saying it referrs to an old package, and has no installation candidate.  What am I to do?
[08:47] <optical_> E: Package oidentd has no installation candidate
[08:48] <bazhang> !info oidentd | optical_
[08:48] <franklin> What's a good browser other then firefox ?
[08:49] <prince_jammys> !browser
[08:49] <kim0> chrome?
[08:49] <iceroot> franklin: the one you like
[08:49] <franklin> which one ?
[08:49] <kim0> Can we add chrome/chromium to that list :D
[08:49] <iceroot> franklin: chrome, opera, konqueror
[08:49] <Jordan_U> franklin: One not listed by ubottu since it's relatively newly available for linux is google chrome / chromium.
[08:49] <bazhang> chromium-browser is in the repos kim0 franklin
[08:50] <prince_jammys> franklin: paste ones from the list above into google, and read reviews or see screenshots. or just install 'em and see.
[08:50] <prince_jammys> ah, and chromium
[08:50] <micw> how can i set up an network interface on ubuntu with kernel parameters (kernel autoconfiguration)?
[08:50] <franklin> tnx
[08:50] <kim0> bazhang, I meant add it to the bot
[08:50] <micw> what do i need to have in my /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:51] <indus> bazhang, would you recommend chrome , or chromium
[08:51] <bazhang> kim0, suggest something as a factoid then
[08:51] <kim0> !factoid
[08:51] <bazhang> indus, whichever works for you
[08:52] <bazhang> kim0, ie !x is <reply> etc etc etc
[08:52] <OuterSpace> sup all
[08:52] <Anarchy7> How can I see if ATI is supporting my card in Ubuntu ?
[08:52] <indus> bazhang, iam seeking a recommendation here, that statement doesnt help much
[08:52] <bazhang> indus, please dont take polls here
[08:52] <OuterSpace> google it anarchy7
[08:52] <bazhang> indus, bestbot is for that
[08:52] <OuterSpace> anyone here use backtrack 4 or phlax?
 : yes
[08:53] <prince_jammys> OuterSpace: #backtrack-linux
[08:53] <bazhang> OuterSpace, bt4 support in #backtrack-linux
[08:53] <OuterSpace> ahhh yes
[08:53] <indus> does anyone know the difference bettween chrome and chromium
[08:53] <grayhatgeek> chrome is a browser , chromium is OS
[08:53] <rww> grayhatgeek: nope
[08:53] <bazhang> OuterSpace, /msg alis list *phlax* to see if they have a channel
[08:53] <Jordan_U> grayhatgeek: No.
[08:53] <OuterSpace> im new to irc sorry
[08:53] <bazhang> grayhatgeek, the reverse
[08:54] <Jordan_U> bazhang: Not that either.
[08:54] <grayhatgeek> http://www.chromium.org/
[08:54] <grayhatgeek> http://www.google.com/chrome
[08:54] <grayhatgeek> http://www.chromium.org/ ==> OS
[08:54] <grayhatgeek> http://www.google.com/chrome ==> browser
[08:54] <Jordan_U> bazhang: grayhatgeek: indus: chromium is the open source project behind the proprietary google chrome.
[08:54] <bazhang> Jordan_U, there is certainly a Chrome OS
[08:55] <grayhatgeek> then no diff :D
[08:55] <Anarchy7> they dont have linux
[08:55] <Anarchy7> http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/HowtoidentifythemodelofanATIgraphicscard.aspx
[08:55] <Jordan_U> bazhang: Yes, but the question was asking about the difference between chrome and chromium.
[08:55] <indus> Jordan_U, so what would be the difference between the 2 browsers
[08:55] <deusr> anyone know tell me if the driver sis 671/771 is engaged the effects of kubuntu?
[08:55] <indus> Jordan_U, other that nthe open source part
[08:55] <bazhang> deusr, try #kubuntu
 : try live CD first
[08:56] <Jordan_U> indus: Practically, the only noticeable difference is lack of h.264 support in chromium.
[08:56] <indus> Jordan_U, hmm
[08:56] <deusr> ok
[08:56] <Jordan_U> indus: Which with webm is now much less important than it used to be.
[08:56] <indus> ok
[08:56] <indus> hearing a lot about webm
[08:57] <grayhatgeek> Chromium is the open source project.
[08:57] <grayhatgeek> Google Chrome is the brand version based on it. Google adds some things of their own.
[08:57] <grayhatgeek> However both use the same rendering and JavaScript engines, so developing sites for one is likely going to work for all of them.
[08:57] <grayhatgeek> However, extensions are kind of a different story, as those are still being added to and reworked slightly (I think) and stuff.
[08:57] <FloodBot1> grayhatgeek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:57] <grayhatgeek> OK
[08:58] <elric> anybody here who can help me with lirc?
[08:58] <bazhang> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/ubuntu_lirc_install elric for mythtv?
[08:59] <elric> actually for moovida
[08:59] <MaRk-I> elric: have you checked this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LIRC
[09:00] <bazhang> http://www.moovida.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1555 elric check this
[09:00] <elric> i did.
[09:00] <bazhang> that would seem to indicate a no-go then elric
[09:00] <elric> irw doesnt do anythin,as in it doesnt repsond to the buttons i press
[09:01] <prince_jammys> check the ubuntu help page first
[09:01] <optical_> hey all, can someone look at this screenshot and tell me why when i start oidentd its not using my switches specified in OIDENTD_OPTIONS?  http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/310/scr1278662485.jpg
[09:02] <optical_> i do /etc/init.d/oidentd start but it doesn't use the two -a flags
[09:02] <rocket16> Is there a faster replacement for Gnome-panels? I wish to use GNOME, but I tweaked it to run faster on my old 512 MB (RAM) laptop.
[09:02] <optical_> that i added
[09:02] <mikubuntu> my headphones are working, but not my speakers on my acer laptop running ubuntu.  they were working about a month ago, not anymore.  i've looked in the pulseaudio settings, and another sound preference setting in my system administration menu, and nothing is showing as muted, so i'm at a loss.
[09:03] <norbi1> hi guys, i have  a dell inspiron 910, i`m trying to install on it ubuntu
[09:03] <rocket16> Is Gimmie faster than Gnome-panels?
[09:03] <norbi1> but i`m getting i/o error
[09:09] <joaquincillo> alguien de mexico??
[09:09] <bazhang> !es
[09:12] <krey> hello, jockey doesn't detect my nvidia card, but I can see it in lspci, how can I fix this?
[09:13] <bazhang> krey, which card
[09:14] <krey>  nVidia Corporation G96 [GeForce 9500 GT]
[09:14] <koshie> Hi
[09:15] <bazhang> krey, you went into system admin hardware drivers? what version of ubuntu
[09:16] <MaRk-I> mikubuntu: this is related to 9.04 but might give you a clue http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2009/04/29/acer-aspire-6920-no-sound-on-ubuntu-jaunty-904/
[09:16] <micw> i wonder why on my minimal lucid system /etc/event.d/ is empty. might this be the reason that i don't have console output?
[09:16] <Alazair> anyone know how i can go about setting up a web server for just files
[09:16] <mikubuntu> thx mark, i running 1004, but i will check it out
[09:17] <mikubuntu> MaRk-I: thx mark, i running 1004 but i will check it out
[09:17] <krey> bazhang: I don't understand the first question, lucid 10.04
[09:17] <MaRk-I> mikubuntu: check what's in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf  i
[09:17] <MaRk-I> -i*
[09:18] <bazhang> krey, menu:  system -->administration-->hardware drivers  (I have the 9400 and its well supported)
[09:18] <zabka> could i automatically assign the cities to time zones? i'm looking for soemthing like perl's DateTime::TimeZone->names_in_country but with cities istead of iso code
[09:18] <bullgard4> prince_jammys: I cannot solve this problem: There are too many configuration files.
[09:19] <mikubuntu> MaRk-I: not sure how to open it, can you give me a command?
[09:19] <krey> bazhang: I'm afraid I can't do that: 1. I don't use gnome, 2. X is kinda broken at the moment :(
[09:19] <bazhang> krey, using what then?
[09:20] <MaRk-I> mikubuntu: just to see what's in there without editing:  gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[09:20] <krey> bazhang: I use compiz, but it dies with the nouveau drivers (which I'm using right now)
[09:21] <krey> bazhang: isn't  "system -->administration-->hardware drivers" jockey-gtk?
[09:22] <bazhang> krey, iirc installing modaliases should help out here (in getting jockey to recognize more cards)
[09:23] <MaRk-I> mikubuntu: check if you see a line similar to this:  options snd-hda-intel model=auto OR options snd-hda-intel model=acer
[09:23] <krey> bazhang: cheers, lemme try that
[09:23] <mikubuntu> MaRk-I: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/461021/
[09:23] <iksik> hello
[09:23] <bazhang> !find modaliases
[09:24] <iksik> anyone know mabe, how many place is needed for ubuntu repository mirror?
[09:24] <krey> bazhang: which ones should I install, need I reboot?
[09:24] <bazhang> krey, not sure about the first, reboot once driver is installed, yes
[09:25] <bazhang> iksik, apt-mirror?
[09:25] <krey> bazhang: ok, thanks, lemme try this
[09:25] <rww> iksik: how much space, you mean? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors#Releases%20Statistics
[09:25] <iksik> rww, i need to make local mirror for all packages
[09:25] <bazhang> iksik, what do you mean by places? is this hdd storage size? something other?
[09:25] <iksik> i've got about 8 desktops with ubuntu - there is no need to download everything 8 times, right? :-)
[09:26] <bazhang> iksik, or just aptoncd
[09:26] <iksik> bazhang, right... storage
[09:26] <bazhang> iksik, mirroring the repos for 8 computers seems excessive
[09:26] <MaRk-I> mikubuntu: close the file
[09:26] <funkyweasel> Good morning!
[09:26] <bazhang> !aptoncd | iksik
[09:27] <iksik> bazhang, erm... i think ie. rsync is much simplier, then burning new CD with each package update ;-)
[09:27] <Anarchy7> I am using 10.04 lucid so which package is mine ? Ubuntu/jaunty ?
[09:27] <mikubuntu> MaRk-I: ok
[09:28] <bazhang> Anarchy7, not sure what you mean by that
[09:28] <MaRk-I> mikubuntu: now type: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[09:28] <funkyweasel> Anarchy7: Ubuntu 10.04 is codename "Lucid Lynx".  The previous version is 9.04 is codename Jaunty Jackalope.
[09:29] <mikubuntu> MaRk-I: k, its open
[09:29] <Anarchy7> I typed sudo sh ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run --buildandinstallpkg Ubuntu/lucid
[09:29] <Anarchy7> so it will jaunty?
[09:29] <MaRk-I> mikubuntu: at the end of the file add this:  options snd-hda-intel model=acer
[09:29] <bazhang> iksik, rsync is for data, not to synchronize installs
[09:29] <MaRk-I> save it close and reboot.... hope that works :D
[09:29] <krey> bazhang: ok so i've installed nvidia-current-modaliases, nvidia-185-modaliases, nvidia-180-modaliases, nvidia-96-modaliases and still nothing
[09:29] <krey> bazhang: ^ and rebooted
[09:30] <bazhang> krey, this is openbox? flux? never did catch what you were using outside of gnome
[09:30] <Alazair> anyone know why i have a refresh line on my 1080p tv in nix but not in windoz?
[09:30] <mikubuntu> MaRk-I: k, saved and closed
[09:30] <iksik> bazhang, erm, why should i need to synchronize installs? i just need to synchronize new packages ( with updates ) from ubuntu repo, and install them on lan from local repo - one download (sync) 8 installs
[09:30] <MaRk-I> mikubuntu: try rebooting see if it works
[09:30] <iksik> pretty simple - i think
[09:30] <Anarchy7> funkyweasel,  how can I find the latest ati driver for 10.04 ?
[09:31] <krey> bazhang: I use compiz
[09:31] <krey> bazhang: but surely this has little to do with my windows manager
[09:31] <mikubuntu> MaRk-I: ok, don't leave me!  brb! thx!
[09:31] <krey> bazhang: I'm doing most of this over ssh anyway
[09:31]  * MaRk-I leaving to africa...
[09:31] <Anarchy7> I have this one but as I am using 10.04 I think it is old for me ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64
[09:31] <funkyweasel> Anarchy7: At the risk of sounding like a prick - google for "ubuntu lucid ati driver".  You'll usually find a ubuntuforum.org thread that can help you out.
[09:32] <Anarchy7> :)
[09:32] <Anarchy7> ok
[09:32] <funkyweasel> Anarchy7: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Lucid#Install_Latest_Nvidia.2FATI_drivers right off the bat
[09:34] <rocket16> Which is the most lightweight dock for Ubuntu? If possible, without using OpenGL?
[09:34] <Anarchy7> but I have ati
[09:34] <Anarchy7> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1360952
[09:35] <Anarchy7> this guy says lucid doesnt support latest drivers :S
[09:36] <Alazair> ati has always had problems with linux
[09:36] <funkyweasel> Anarchy7: The OP is about 6 months old though.  That's a long time in ubuntu :)
[09:36] <Alazair> they just dont release the drivers often enough
[09:36] <bazhang> krey, not sure about the 9600 but for the 9500 (my own) I am using nvidia current from hardware drivers
[09:36] <Anarchy7> LoL cool
[09:37] <krey> bazhang: I see, but why won't jockey see my card if lspci does, and I'm full of modaliases now?
[09:37] <opij> are gforce graphics cards always compatible with ubuntu?
[09:38] <mikubuntu> MaRk-I: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IqvxA7xaUI&feature=PlayList&p=173A9874C6614692&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=21 sounds good to me now
[09:38] <funkyweasel> Ah that's what I came for.
[09:38] <mikubuntu> MaRk-I: :)
[09:38] <funkyweasel> How do I move the notication bubble on lucid?
[09:38] <MaRk-I> mikubuntu: what's that link?
[09:38] <mikubuntu> song i'm *listening* to
[09:38] <funkyweasel> I work off a laptop and use a secondary monitor as my main and would like notification bubbles to appear there as well or instead.
[09:38] <Alazair> hey anyone know the odds of recoverying 6 files from when my drive was ntfs
[09:38] <mikubuntu> thx
[09:38] <Alazair> i just recently formatted it to ext4
[09:39] <MaRk-I> lol well hmm did it work?
[09:39] <opij> are gforce graphics cards always compatible with ubuntu?
[09:39] <Anarchy7>  funkyweasel  when I went to driver manager it said no proprietary drivers are in use ...
[09:39] <mikubuntu> MaRk-I: oh, yeah, that's what i meant
[09:39] <krey> bazhang: last time I enabled nvidia-current, terrible things happened, I couldn't even boot my way to the tty (black screen)
[09:39] <funkyweasel> Anarchy7: Sounds like you need to go install em
[09:39] <MaRk-I> mikubuntu: cool that'll be $50
[09:39] <mikubuntu> MaRk-I: i installed 1004 on my friend's desktop that her daughter gave her
[09:40] <MaRk-I> mikubuntu: j/k for future reference keep this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[09:40] <Anarchy7> funkyweasel,  yes and when I go to ati site I put in my gfx card but no download comes ...
[09:40] <bazhang> krey, this is for a single card? I don't see any bugs for a single card but only for trying with dual cards (and that card)
[09:40] <funkyweasel> Anarchy7: Try the repo drivers.  Fire up Synaptic and search for ati, see what you find.
[09:41] <Anarchy7> ok
[09:41] <krey> krey: yep, single card. I really don't want to reinstall my system :(
[09:41] <nawk> hi, how can I adjust the screen brightness on my netbook (lucid for netbook)?
[09:41] <deltree_> i have an acer aspire one netbook and ubuntu 10.04. I need to capture video with my webcam but cheese doesnt record video for me. any ideas what app i can download to capture video?
[09:41] <mikubuntu> MaRk-I: but, apparently the kids jammed a headphone jack in the plug and it broke off in there .. thats in the jack in the front, but theres also jacks in the back, but can't get them to work because (i think) that the computer thinks the front jack is in use.  you think?
[09:41] <bazhang> nawk, usually with the fn keys
[09:42] <MaRk-I> nawk: press FN+dimm/bright buttons?
[09:42] <nawk> bazhang, MaRk-I they're aren't working in Lucid
[09:42] <bazhang> nawk, which netbook
[09:42] <MaRk-I> mikubuntu: most likely yes, should get some needle nose pliers and see if you can get it out
[09:42] <red__> Hi I am running 10.4 and want to get my my machine to boot up fast how do I do this?
[09:42] <Anarchy7> funkyweasel,  I have them installed xorg
[09:42] <s3r3n1t7> nawk, check the power management settings.
[09:43] <nawk> samsung n120
[09:43] <nawk> s3r3n1t7, I'll check it out
[09:43] <mikubuntu> MaRk-I: too tiny, couldn't get anything in there .. i was wondering if there was a commandline to disable the front jacks possibly
[09:44] <MaRk-I> mikubuntu: hmm no idea
[09:44] <mikubuntu> MaRk-I: oh, well, thanks for helping me with my  laptop
[09:44] <MaRk-I> mikubuntu: at least u have sound now ;^)
[09:44] <MaRk-I> yw
[09:44] <mikubuntu> MaRk-I: yup haha
[09:45] <funkyweasel> Anarchy7: Hang on, do you need these drivers?
[09:45] <mikubuntu> ok, i go walk the dawg nite guys
[09:45] <funkyweasel> Anarchy7: Or rather - can you can the resolution and refresh rate you need?
[09:45] <deltree_> any ubuntu netbook users here?
[09:45] <MaRk-I> gn
[09:45] <Anarchy7> funkyweasel,  my computer is fine with colors etc., but movies are freezing if I install the graph card it will be better I think
[09:46] <funkyweasel> Anarchy7: Youtube, divx, or other movies?
[09:46] <nawk> bazhang, MaRk-I, s3r3n1t7: Usually, the shortkeys for adjusting the brightness are: fn + <uparrow>/<downarrow>
[09:46] <nawk> its not working in lucid for netbooks
[09:47] <bazhang> nawk, odd; works fine here on my first gen eeepc
[09:47] <s3r3n1t7> nawk, I know that is what you said. I have no netbook myself so I cannot check that. However, my laptop also has some funny quirks. I have to adjust my brightness level in the power management settings otherwise it will flip back in a matter of minutes
[09:47] <opij> are gforce graphics cards always compatible with ubuntu?
[09:47] <savio> http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Ubuntu-closes-root-hole-1034618.html ALL hurry and patch your systems ( if you have a sharing your machines with others !)
[09:47] <bazhang> opij, how old?
[09:47] <Anarchy7> funkyweasel,  other movies ?
[09:48] <opij> bazhang: new
[09:48] <Anarchy7> funkyweasel,  it is freezing with bluray movies ...
[09:48] <bazhang> opij, should work then
[09:48] <opij> where's the compatibility list?
[09:49] <bazhang> opij, what is the card
[09:49] <nawk> s3r3n1t7, I can't find that option in "Power Management Preferences"
[09:49] <opij> bazhang: i dont know yet
[09:49] <MaRk-I> nawk: system/preferences/power management
[09:49] <s3r3n1t7> nawk, then i think that is the reason your keys don't work. Apparently the power management features don't detect your system as a netbook but as a desktop
[09:49] <MaRk-I> nawk: oops nvm I misread
[09:50] <Tortex> Hi everyone!
[09:50] <nawk> hi Tortex!
[09:51] <Tortex> Nawk: It's kind of a pleasure to see that many Ubuntu users :)
[09:51] <deltree_> i have an acer aspire one netbook and ubuntu 10.04. I need to capture video with my webcam but cheese doesnt record video for me. any ideas what app i can download to capture video? plz forgive my spam im a crzy n00b
[09:51] <s3r3n1t7> nawk, do the other hardware buttons work, such as increase/decrease volume?
[09:51] <opij> bazhang: i dont know yet
[09:51] <nawk> s3r3n1t7, I'm actually trying out the Lucid LiveCD right now.  Yes, the volume control (fn+up/down) works
[09:51] <erUSUL> !webcam
[09:52] <deltree_> ty
[09:52] <Tortex> deltree_: Hi! Is that you? deltree from lide.cz?
[09:52] <s3r3n1t7> nawk, not to be rude, but are you sure you are pressing the right keys for the brightness?
[09:52] <abhax> hey people what does 2770 permission specify?
[09:52] <deltree_> if there is another deltree in the world ill poop a turkey
[09:52] <abhax> if its given on a file
[09:53] <deltree_> but i have no idea what lide.cz is
[09:53] <deltree_> sorry
[09:53] <mtrg> Hi -- how to position my 2nd monitor/screen ?
[09:53] <Tricks> ok I have a internal DNS server for internal clients which id finally working, I have a samba share and clients are able to ping this by hostname and Ip. I know that this is a windows question but why do the windows xp clients claim that the network path cannot be found when I try to map a network drive when I can connect to the server via run???? I HATE WINDOWS! >_<
[09:53] <Tortex> deltree_ Yes there is xD
[09:53] <Tricks> has anybody had experience of this?
[09:53] <deltree_> W o w
[09:53] <Tortex> deltree_ Sorry pal... :-D
[09:53] <rww> abhax: as in chmod 2770 file? 2=set group ID, 7=user can read, write, and execute, 7=group can read, write, and execute, 0=others can't do anything
[09:54] <nawk> s3r3n1t7, you've been real kind :-)   I'm sure I didn't press the wrong key-combination
[09:54] <deltree_> ive been using this handle since 1991
[09:54] <deltree_> wow
[09:54] <deltree_> funny
[09:54] <Tortex> deltree_ OK, moment...
[09:54] <erUSUL> abhax: 2 --> sgid 7 --> rwx for user 7 --> rwx for group 0 --> --- for others
[09:54] <erUSUL> abhax: man chmod
[09:54] <erry> I used keyboard preferences to swap alt with super. I then clicked revert ot defaults, and although the behavior for alt is "default" it's still swapped
[09:54] <erry> Can you help?
[09:54] <nawk> s3r3n1t7, could you screenshot the option for adjusting brightness in "Power Management Preferences"?
[09:54] <Tortex> He is old only a year :-D
[09:54] <abhax> it got the 7 part
[09:55] <abhax>  sticky bit?
[09:55] <erry> Nevermind
[09:55] <erry> i just have to swap them again
[09:55] <erry> that works
[09:55] <erry> thanks
[09:55] <nawk> s3r3n1t7, try imgur.com
[09:55] <FloodBot1> erry: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:55] <nawk> s3r3n1t7, www.imgur.com
[09:55] <erUSUL> abhax: 2 --> set group id
[09:55] <s3r3n1t7> deltree_, Tortex, mind taking the discussion that isn't support related to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[09:55] <s3r3n1t7> nawk, sure, a second.
[09:55] <deltree_> np
[09:55] <s3r3n1t7> nawk, in the mean time, this may be a good read: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/574250
[09:55] <nawk> erUSUL do you need some help with webcam installation?
[09:56] <Tortex> s3r3n1t7: I'm sorry
[09:56] <erUSUL> nawk: no
[09:56] <nawk> erUSUL,  okay :-)
[09:56] <erUSUL> nawk: deltree asked about webcam
[09:56] <Tortex> s3r3n1t7: I'm here for the first time
[09:56] <abhax> erUSUL, this would make the file spefic to that group?
[09:57] <planetearth> hey hi
[09:57] <s3r3n1t7> Tortex, no problem. This is the support channel so we try to keep support chatter here and everything else goes to #ubuntu-offtopic. Saves a lot on the filtering for assistance.
[09:57] <planetearth> how to install oracle onunbuntu
[09:57] <[Screamo]> erm, any command to give me info about my ram?
[09:57] <erUSUL> abhax: i do not know the exact semantics of that in a regular file. in dirs it makes files created within to be owned by the same group
[09:57] <nawk> deltree_ do you need some help with deltree_?
[09:58] <s3r3n1t7> nawk, http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/5287/screenshotqj.png is what mine looks like.
[09:58] <nawk> webcam*
[09:58] <erUSUL> abhax: from what i get in the manual. is "ignored" in regular files
[09:58] <abhax> erUSUL, so every file created in that dir would be owned by the same group as that of the person who created the dir?
[09:59] <nawk> s3r3n1t7, right, I'm missing that "set display brightness to:" bar
[09:59] <erUSUL> abhax: correct
[09:59] <Tortex> s3r3n1t7: Thanks for that channel, I'll ask when I got some problem with Ubuntu, bye
[09:59] <s3r3n1t7> nawk, i was afraid of that. A desktop usually doesn't have it. Did you read the bug report? The solution provided in there may also solve your problem.
[09:59] <abhax> erUSUL, so if need to change and im not the owner would sudo do the trick?
[09:59] <MaRk-I> [Screamo]: sudo lshw -v memory  (i believe)
[09:59] <erUSUL> abhax: yes sudo chmod ...
[10:00] <MaRk-I> [Screamo]: or sudo lshw -C memory
[10:00] <abhax> thnaks erUSUL++
[10:00] <Anarchy7> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Lucid#Install_Latest_Nvidia.2FATI_drivers
[10:00] <erUSUL> abhax: no problem
[10:01] <abhax> :)
[10:01] <Anarchy7> Screen keeps flickering : am I blind or he is false ? I dont see the "Advanced" in Administrator
[10:01] <planetearth> can any  tell me how 2 install oracle on unbuntu
[10:01] <nawk> s3r3n1t7, I believe that bug report will help me (or at least give me some insights)
[10:02] <s3r3n1t7> nawk, The only thing is that you cannot try this now. It requires a reboot for the changes to take effect
[10:03] <nawk> s3r3n1t7, I'm on chatting on my desktop, while trying to install lucid(netbook edition) on my netbook :-)
[10:03] <erUSUL> planetearth: ask oracle support ?
[10:03] <kraut> moin
[10:04] <planetearth> k
[10:04] <nawk> s3r3n1t7, how did you find that bug report?  Generally, how do you find relevant bug reports?  (just a simple google search??)
[10:04] <s3r3n1t7> nawk, pretty much yes.
[10:04] <[Screamo]> MaRk-I, arg, that doesnt gimme enough info, you know a command that list info about the mobo?
[10:05] <MaRk-I> [Screamo]: sudo lshw  -vv
[10:05] <bullgard4> [GNOME] I have an chocolate-brown  login display image in Ubuntu 10.04. How can I determine its filename? The gdm package has too many config files.
[10:05] <erUSUL> [Screamo]: sudo lshw | less and sudo dmidecode | less
[10:05] <s3r3n1t7> nawk, in fact, for this i did a google for "ubuntu brightness keys don't work", which led me to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks and when you scroll down to the N1xx machines there's a bug report link in there.
[10:05] <nawk> s3r3n1t7, thank you for contributing to the Ubuntu Community :-)
[10:05] <s3r3n1t7> nawk, with pleasure.
[10:08] <oCean_> s3r3n1t7: nawk there are lots of issues re. brightness adjusting. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[10:08] <petros> hello
[10:08] <oCean_> hi petros
[10:08] <petros> does anybody knows any channel with router or networks discussion?
[10:09] <bazhang> ##networking
[10:09] <petros> bazhang, ;)
[10:10] <bazhang> petros, also ##dd-wrt
[10:11] <krey> bazhang: Time to reinstall system, fuuuuck :(
[10:11] <chazz> what's the keyboard shortcut to open a run dialog?
[10:12] <s3r3n1t7> chazz, alt f2
[10:12] <chazz> ty
[10:12] <bazhang> krey, please no cursing here
[10:12] <krey> bazhang: sorry :(
[10:23] <astroboy> Is there a way I can remove the build dependencies of a package I installed from source and now I removed?
[10:23] <JediMaster> hey guys, I've got an odd issue (running lucid on kubuntu, but I think the issue isn't K related), just now I had to reboot 5 times before I could get into X(org), plymouth came up, even did a disk check on one boot and then the progress bar stops and nothing happens. I can't Ctrl-alt-F1 etc. however ctrl-alt-del then starts the reboot process and plymouth starts moving again
[10:23] <JediMaster> It's been happening for quite some time now, but normally only 1 in 3 times, but just now literally 5 boots before X came up
[10:24] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, that sounds rather tricky. Are you sure the disk isn't corrupt?
[10:25] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, yeah, the disk check was the first time it's happened in months
[10:25] <nawk> !UNR
[10:25] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, no issues with the disk I know of, nothing in syslog to suggest it
[10:25] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, in months? From what I've seen happening there are so many reboots before an automatic check is done. I would suggest letting it run (it can take up to half an hour or so) and check for the result. And yes, it may appear to be doing nothing.
[10:26] <JediMaster> it appears that Xorg.log also doesn't get made, so looks like it's straight before X is supposed to load that it's getting stuck
[10:26] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, it completed the disk check
[10:26] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, then froze, that was just one of the 5 boots that froze before I had to hit ctrl-alt-del
[10:27] <JediMaster> it wasn't doing a disk check at the time it froze
[10:27] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, it did? Hmm .... Does the freeze happen before or after reboot? And can you ssh your way in? (unless you have no other pc to check with)
[10:27] <JediMaster> I power on the machine, it looks like it's about to get from plymouth into X and freezes indefinately until I hit ctrl-alt-del
[10:27] <JediMaster> ctrl-alt-f1-f12 do nothing
[10:28] <JediMaster> however, I have managed to get ctrl-alt-f1 in before it happens and there's been a few messages, one sec got a photo =)
[10:28] <rocket16> Midori browser doesn't get flash working. Any solution?
[10:28] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, I've noticed those have indeed been disabled in the default X configuration. There's a setting you can add which will enable them again
[10:28] <JediMaster> last thing on the screen is: "mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth"
[10:28] <JediMaster> then it also freezes in the first terminal until I hit ctrl-alt-del
[10:29] <JediMaster> then the login prompt appears and reboots
[10:30] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, I've not tried to ssh in yet at the time it happens but it's possible
[10:30] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, anything in particular to look for?
[10:30] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, if it happens again pleas try that and pastebin what dmesg says.
[10:30] <arkhe> This might be weird to ask here, but I'm looking for an art program that will work on Ubuntu. The main thing is that I need pressure sensitivity, when drawing with a tablet. Anyone have any suggestions?
[10:30] <JediMaster> kk
[10:30] <JediMaster> I'll try rebooting now
[10:30] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, I'm reading a bug report which says there's a bug in mountall in combination with fsck. It's leading me to believe there's indeed an fsck going on
[10:30] <rocket16> Midori problem, can't use Flash plugin. Any help?
[10:31] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, it completed just now without an issue (got to 100%)
[10:31] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, and every other time it's not mentioned doing a disk check
[10:31] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, it's not the fsck itself, it's the combination of plymouth (whatever that is) and mountall, while doing an fsck
[10:32] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, plymouth is the program that display the new boot logo
[10:32] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, Ah that explains their solution. Remove splash and quiet from grub
[10:32] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/571707
[10:32] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, also prepares the screen resolution as best it can to match the X screen res so you don't have to change res
[10:32] <josh__> hi
[10:33] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, we learn something new everyday. Can you try the splash and quiet removal proposal as done in the bugreport?
[10:33] <appill> haha
[10:33] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, pretty sure it's not that bug though, as I said, it's not that it gets stuck on 99%, it doesn't run the disk check most of the time at all
[10:34] <josh__> is there any way to use sudo in cron(tab)?
[10:34] <josh__> or write a file as root
[10:34] <oCean_> josh__: various crons exist for users, also for root. Any script from root cron will be run as root user
[10:35] <josh__> how do i access root cron?
[10:35] <nawk> s3r3n1t7, are the "splash" "quiet" options explained in a grub manpage or menu.lst?  I've always wondered what they do.
[10:35] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, However, the problem does seem to be very related to plymouth, would you agree?
[10:35] <oCean_> josh__: sudo crontab -e (will start with warning like no crontab for root, creating one)
[10:35] <josh__> thanks
[10:36] <TravisM> Hi, I am trying to install Ubuntu -- and this time I want to dual boot (I have been Ubuntu only for the past 3+ years), however, I just got a new computer and since I dont HATE Windows 7 (just dislike it), I think I would like to keep it
[10:36] <s3r3n1t7> nawk, removing splash removes the logo and you will see some information. Removing quiet will also show any other output messages. Removing these 2 shows a lot of information going on while booting.
[10:36] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, well plymouth is running when the machine boots and it's happening as the machine boots, doesn't confirm it's an issue with it
[10:36] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, doesn't exclude it either
[10:36] <soreau> TravisM: So install 7 and ubuntu. done.
[10:36] <TravisM> All the dual boot guides are long, and complicated looking... can I just use the installer click "manual" and then shrink the huge partition down to half size and then create the 2 partions I need for Ubuntu?
[10:37] <atrkl_> where can I configure mysql to listen in my private ip instead of <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:37] <soreau> TravisM: Yes, you can
[10:37] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, So i want to exclude it from being an issue by asking you to boot without the splash and quiet. Would it harm to try? And if it doesn't solve it, we'll at least have excluded this possibility.
[10:37] <TravisM> soreau: thanks
[10:37] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, yeah have changed the grub.cfg (feels odd somehow not being menu.lst anymore)
[10:37] <JediMaster> added a different boot option without splash and quiet
[10:37] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, you can do a less permanent solution by doing it at boot time
[10:38] <josh__> if i run a command in sudo cron, do I have to specify sudo in the command or is it assumed?
[10:38] <s3r3n1t7> josh__, the cron tab you are editing will be the user who will be running the command. thus, editing the root's crontab runs the command as root
[10:38] <oCean_> josh__: a cron for root will be created, running all commands as root
[10:38] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, as you can see I'm booted in at the moment (on the machine in question), so I'll try powering it off and rebooting
[10:38] <josh__> thanks
[10:38] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, I will be here. Let me know how it turns out.
[10:39] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, thanks for the help, brb
[10:41] <oCean_> atrkl_: change value of bind-address in /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[10:41] <MaRk-I> arkhe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151  something like this?
[10:41] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, guess what, it's frozen on shutting down rofl
[10:42] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, can you ssh in atm? (the dmesg would be interesting ... i hope)
[10:42] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, well not frozen, just not shutting down
[10:42] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, I can switch to the first terminal and it says: Checking for running unattended-upgrades:  * Asking all remaining processes to terminate ..... [OK]
[10:43] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, and the last few messages from dmesg?
[10:43] <JediMaster> then: * All processes ended within 1 seconds.... (great grammar!)
[10:43] <JediMaster> I doubt ssh is running still, but I'll try
[10:43] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, even better, pastebin the last 30 messages from dmesg if you wouldn't mind
[10:43] <atrkl_> oCean_: can I use comas, I mean bind-address            = <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:44] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, which you can do with dmesg | tail -n30 > tmp
[10:45] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, heh, I can ssh in =)
[10:46] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, the last bunch of messages if you wouldn't mind on pastebin
[10:47] <JediMaster> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/461042/
[10:47] <JediMaster> from just at the end of the boot until just now
[10:47] <_Jacob1987_> thanks.
[10:47] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7,  INFO: task python:2146 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
[10:48] <JediMaster> it's repeating that on the terminal now a few times
[10:48] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, are you sure it ends there? Just pastebin the entire thing please (yes it's huge, i'll filter through it)
[10:48] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, yeah it did, but it's getting longer now
[10:49] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, just pastebin what's on there atm please, i'm missing the kill signal that should be in there
[10:49] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, need it starting from 0?
[10:49] <JediMaster> as the scrollback in the bloody terminal isn't long enough lol
[10:49] <JediMaster> nm, I'll dump it to a file and scp it
[10:49] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, that's what i was going to suggest
[10:49] <s3r3n1t7> dmesg > file
[10:50] <mazzanet> lo
[10:50] <mazzanet> i'm running ubuntu netbook remix and trying to edit the main menu, but none of my changes (ie. hiding/showing) take effect
[10:50] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/461045/
[10:51] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, I can see it complaining about my nfs mounts, that could be the issue
[10:52] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, are you using cryptfs?
[10:52] <_Jacob1987_> thanks.
[10:52] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, ecryptfs? yes
[10:52] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, then I think it is quite related to your disc. check http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2008-08/msg05324.html
[10:52] <MaRk-I> [  184.883416] ecryptfs_decrypt_page: Error attempting to read lower page; rc = [-4]
[10:52] <MaRk-I> [  184.883421] ecryptfs_write_begin: Error decrypting page at index [65288]; rc = [-4]
[10:53] <s3r3n1t7> MaRk-I, please don't copy information in here from a pastebin.
[10:53] <JediMaster> MaRk-I, thanks, but line numbers would have done =)
[10:53] <toolbear> hi.  i'm trying to create a simple chroot environment.  i put a statically-linked copy of dash in there, and bind-mounted the /dev directory.  i can chroot into the environment just fine, but i can't execute any other programs (despite the fact that PATH is set and contains the appropriate directories).  can anybody provide some insight?
[10:54] <MaRk-I> I didnt flood anyways keep going
[10:54] <JediMaster> that's a boot, and it's now shutting down that's the problem anyhow
[10:55] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, well ecryptfs takes a lot more read/writes, thus causes somewhat a delay. If the delay is long enough eventually that the kernel thinks its blocked it's goin to cause an issue.
[10:55] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, I can see two defunct processes: [python] <defunct>, both running as my own user rather than root
[10:57] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, which are probably caused by the errors in your dmesg.  Real as in, alive
[11:01] <borgfish> hi, whats the default ext version for lucid ?
[11:01] <borgfish> 3 or 4 ?
[11:01] <s3r3n1t7> 4
[11:01] <borgfish> thx
[11:02] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, i'm tempted to say do a hard reboot, reinstall python and the likes, then another reboot and see how it turns out
[11:04] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, looks like it's going that way, I'll try and unmount everything first
[11:04] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, that would be smart, and sync /
[11:05] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, hmmf, can't umount the nfs shares =/
[11:05] <MaRk-I> sysrq+reisub
[11:05] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, I think it's stuck in the middle of unmounting: /bin/sh /etc/rc6.d/S31umountnfs.sh stop
[11:05] <JediMaster> is running
[11:06] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, oh boy, that's quite a situation then eh =\ force umount?
[11:06] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, -o force?
[11:07] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, -f (man umount)
[11:07] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, and if that doens't work, -l
[11:07] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, neither work
[11:08] <JediMaster> now I have a tonne of dead unmount processes
[11:08] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, that's very odd ... -l should work always ... it's like drop the reigns and never mind the rest ...
[11:08] <s3r3n1t7> nfs ... can't you unplug the cable, sync root and reboot?
[11:08] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, it just sits there
[11:09] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, somehow i think there's more then "just" the reboots that you have to do during bootup.  If not, just hard reboot it ...
[11:21] <lg188> I'm have installed an Ubuntu with live cd (9.04) and it' seems unable to boot with an gui. it stays in the tty1-6 and forces me to login. when trying to run firefox it complains about no display available
[11:22] <lg188> I have*
[11:22] <lg188> also i can't use alt+ctrl+F7
[11:22] <MaRk-I> JediMaster: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/276476   read from msg #55 and on
[11:22] <terBot> can anyone point me in the right direction, i've got a PC running ubuntu 10.04, and I will like to run windows 7 on a virtual machine, how do i go about this?
[11:23] <knoppies> lg188, sounds like you dont have an x-server running. But I recommend you talk to somebody else about it, because Im no expert.
[11:23] <knoppies> terBot, I recommend you look into using VirtualBox by sun microsystems.
[11:23] <s3r3n1t7> MaRk-I, #57 = Symptoms include not being
[11:23] <terBot> knoppies - thanks.. will give it a try
[11:23] <s3r3n1t7> able to log in via SSH or IMAP for the duration of the errors   <= He can login via SSH, and it should be fixed according to bug report.
[11:24] <knoppies> terBot, Any time.
[11:24] <MaRk-I> #55 even affects 10.04
[11:24] <lg188> knoppies: i tought the same, but i have no idea how to make it run
[11:24] <pejy> irani nist
[11:25] <nucc1> how can i log in to a remote desktop via xdmcp?
[11:25] <arash> irani nist
[11:25] <JediMaster> MaRk-I, thanks, don't see any solutions there though =/
[11:25] <knoppies> lg188, nor do I. I would personally try a fresh install. It sounds to me like something went wrong in your install (If you just installed it, as you imply). But other than that I have no idea.
[11:25] <arash> man kos mikham
[11:25] <MaRk-I> JediMaster: they marked it as fixed, I gues not
[11:25] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, sync has frozen too, so going to hard-reboot
[11:26] <MaRk-I> JediMaster: try sysrq+ r e i s u b
[11:26] <arash> Ç?ÑÇæ? æ?ÓÊ
[11:26] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, see MaRk-I's tip above. And do an fsck
[11:26] <JediMaster> MaRk-I, what does that do?
[11:26] <ddvlad> does anyone else experience pidgin constantly hogging up 15-20% of the proc while doing nothing? this usually happens after it's been open a day or so
[11:26] <MaRk-I> shuts down gracefully :P
[11:26] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, syncs the FS thus allowing a safer reboot
[11:27] <MaRk-I> JediMaster:  http://kember.net/articles/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart/
[11:28] <JediMaster> never actually used sysreq, is it ctrl or alt then pritscreen?
[11:28] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, print screen often functions as sysrq (at least it does for me)
[11:29] <MaRk-I> here is FN+del
[11:29] <MaRk-I> laptop
[11:29] <MaRk-I> alt+sysrq+ r e i s u b
[11:29] <lg188> knoppies: mhm now that you say that i do rememmber that i never saw a GUI after the install. i totatly forgot that.
[11:30] <zhengzhilongcn> ???
[11:30] <JediMaster> MaRk-I, do you have to hold sysreq down?
[11:30] <nucc1> JediMaster, sysrq on my keyboard, requires the "fn" key to be pressed
[11:30] <knoppies> lg188, did you use the liveCD? or an alternate install disk? (I kinda remember you saying liveCD)
[11:30] <JediMaster> yeah don't have an FN key, it's a uk layout keyboard
[11:31] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, check the print screen button
[11:31] <MaRk-I> JediMaster: yes sir both keys and just press  r e s u b
[11:31] <s3r3n1t7> MaRk-I, misspelled, you're missing the i
[11:31] <MaRk-I> r e i s u b   sorry missed the I
[11:32] <JediMaster> yeah, still not doing anything
[11:32] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, done all the keys?
[11:32] <MaRk-I> let it kill the process better than a dirty hard shutdown
[11:32] <lg188> knoppies: yup i used livecd but inside windows, i didn't want to risk losing my windows,  i still want to be able to play games
[11:32] <s3r3n1t7> MaRk-I, it's trying that (and thus far, failing)
[11:32] <JediMaster> let me get this right, so I hit printscreen/sysreq then let go and r e i s u b
[11:32] <lg188> knoppies: next time i'm keeping an eye on the install
[11:33] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, also, alt
[11:33] <JediMaster> don't need to hold sysreq down?
[11:33] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, yes, hold them down
[11:33] <s3r3n1t7> hold down alt + printscreen, do not let go
[11:33] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, kk, pretty sure I trie it
[11:33] <s3r3n1t7> then press the keys 1 at a time with 5 second interval
[11:34] <knoppies> lg188, I understand. I would recommend using separate HDDs or partitions. I use old 10-80Gig HDDs for my linux installs. (except on my laptop where they are separate partitions) Keeping an eye on the install sounds like a good idea.
[11:34] <trojan_spike> i need a good fan control for mu asus MB,, have water cooling with fan going none stop
[11:34] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, alt-gr and printscreen worked =)
[11:34] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, good to hear. Its rebooting?
[11:34] <lg188> knoppies: also a notebook, i cant plug some extre hardrives in you know
[11:35] <knoppies> lg188, yea. I almost used an external HDD
[11:35] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, yes, rebooted, let it boot as normal with splash, no issues and no fsck or hang
[11:35] <knoppies> lg188, I hope your install goes well. If you need a hand dont hesitate to ask.
[11:35] <JediMaster> going to force a disk check and reboot
[11:35] <lg188> knoppies: i don't have one that i can plug permanently in, so not an option xD
[11:36] <lg188> knoppies: alright thanks :)
[11:36] <krey> hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu minimal from a usb drive but I can't get it to work, the computer won't boot from that drive, any ideas?
[11:36] <lg188> knoppies: lol uhm should i remove it back trough windows and then reboot and use the live cd installer ?
[11:37] <knoppies> lg188, Im not sure. I have never tried a wubi install. I have always booted from the disk (or USB image) and installed it to its own partition.
[11:37] <Gryllida> help!
[11:37] <lg188> krey: is your bios set right ?
[11:37] <knoppies> lg188, or used a VM with a virtual HDD but thats pretty much the same.
[11:38] <krey> lg188: i think so, I changed the boot sequence
[11:38] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, did a reboot after creating /forcefsck and no problems restarting this time
[11:38] <lg188> krey: that's wierd,
[11:38] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, hmm ... check for the latest updates?
[11:38] <lg188> krey: i don't know much more which could help you. good luck
[11:38] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, was updated yesterday evening
[11:38] <knoppies> krey, What USB device is it? HDD? external DVD? flash drive?
[11:39] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, give me 3 to fix a problem here, be back with you then
[11:39] <krey> knoppies: flash drive
[11:39] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, disk check is running now
[11:39] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, np
[11:39] <knoppies> krey, how did you put the image on the flash drive? (Im trying to see if it is set to boot)
[11:39] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, fsck complete and no issues, started X fine
[11:39] <krey> knoppies: dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sdb
[11:40] <JediMaster> going to power it off and see if I get the same issue
[11:40] <atrkl_> I can't access to my mysql from a client, I've just add GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but I still get Host '<IP_ADDRESS>' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server
[11:40] <atrkl_> any ideas
[11:40] <wizard_> anyone know anything about xbmc, it wont play video can only hear sound
[11:40] <krey> knoppies: but I also tried unetbootin
[11:40] <wizard_> tried the ~xbmc channel think they are all dead no answer in 2 days lol
[11:40]  * JediMaster is sure he can smell burnt gunpowder outside
[11:41] <knoppies> krey, Ive never done that before. I normally use a windows machine and one of the pendrivelinux tools. (I have used some others, with success). I can look for a tutorial but I cant help you myself.
[11:41] <Gryllida> I save a file to a winows machine in the lan, the Windows machine user tries to open it and gets 'access denied' warning. Basically any file I save to that shared location is unopenable by that windows user, though I can open it. How can I fix?
[11:41] <knoppies> wizard_, (not that I can help you) what OS version are you running? (and while you are at it, the xbmc version as well)
[11:42] <krey> knoppies: I tried pendrive linux, but it died complaining that my flash drive isn't big enough (256 of 700 MB) even though the image is 14 MB
[11:42] <wizard_> knoppies, running 10.04 - latest version
[11:42] <knoppies> Gryllida, the ownership/permissions of that file need editing. Not sure how to do it for a windows user. You might be able to find something useful on google.
[11:42] <Tricks> I've just realised that I've mad a boo boo with the size of my partitions is there any way of resizing them?
[11:43] <MaRk-I> krey: reformat the usb you cant "burn" the iso if there's files on it oh and make sure its formatted to fat32
[11:43] <Voldenet> ext3.resize
[11:43] <knoppies> krey, that sounds odd. I wonder why it thinks it needs 700mb for a 14mb image.
[11:43] <krey> MaRk-I: thanks, lemme try that again
[11:43] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, how's the reboot going?
[11:44] <knoppies> Tricks, I know that the gparted gui seems to imply that you can resize partitions, but I have always steered clear because I am worried I will kill my data. There should be gparted on all ubuntu liveCDs
[11:44] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, rebooted fine 3 times in a row, so I powered it off, now it's stuck again, however, I'm sshed in
[11:44] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, and the fsck I forced went through fine with no problems
[11:44] <Gryllida> knoppies, urgh, when on network the file's permissions tab is not containing any info, 'this file permissions can not be determined'
[11:44] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, can you ssh in now it's stuck?
[11:44] <JediMaster> yes
[11:44] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, once again, the dmesg if you please
[11:44] <Gryllida> knoppies, I get that for info window for any file on that windows machine
[11:45] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, I can see /bin/bash /etc/gdm/failsafeXServer is running
[11:45] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, looks like it may be an Xorg issue
[11:45] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, can happen. Mind pastebinning it?
[11:45] <Gryllida> knoppies, how can I try to fix/troubleshoot it?
[11:45] <Tricks> knoppies, yeah that's what I'm worries about... well to be fair it's a fresh install so it wouldn't be too bad it's a centos box though. I have gparted on a live cd so i'll have to do it that way
[11:46] <Gryllida> knoppies, when I save that file locally and email it, windows user is able to open it.
[11:46] <kudakz> guys, when i make my screen resolution higher than 1024x768 it doesnt stretch to my screen and i need to use the mouse to get to the corners, any idea how to make it stretch ??
[11:46] <knoppies> Gryllida, I find it difficult to determine if you are looking at the file from windows or ubuntu, or if you created the file from windows/ubuntu. Im not actually sure how to fix cross platform permission problems. But my first step at troublshooting would be ubuntu forums and google. Not sure how to search for this kind of issue.
[11:47] <knoppies> Tricks, never used centos before. I would backup anything important/not replaceable. Good luck.
[11:48] <kudakz> can anyone help me please with the screen resolution, i spent a whole day on this so far
[11:48] <kudakz> i can choose higher resolutions but they wont stretch to my screen
[11:48] <Tricks> knoppies, will do mate. centos probs best operating system I've worked with yet. rock solid
[11:48] <masterkorp> hello
[11:48] <masterkorp> i have two monitors
[11:48] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, the thing is, there's probably a message in dmesg which tells you what went wrong when and how. once we isolate that we can fix it
[11:48] <Gryllida> knoppies: 1) I make the file in gEdit on Ubuntu 2.1) save it to local location and copy to the shared one OR save to the shared one directly - windows user gets 'access denied' 2.2) save it locally and email - windows user can open it successfully
[11:49] <masterkorp> how can i confifure the X to display fullscreen apps only on one monitor
[11:49] <masterkorp> ?
[11:49] <Gryllida> knoppies: I'm not sure how to google for it at all
[11:49] <Tricks> knoppies, just finished configuring DHCP, DNS and samba share and it's all working beautifully :)
[11:49] <Gryllida> MetaBot: ping
[11:49] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/461064/
[11:50] <knoppies> Tricks, that was quick. I wish you could do mine as well. I can never get a windows machine to access my samba shares. Permission issues most of the time. Im glad to hear your problem is solved.
[11:50] <masterkorp> any idea ?
[11:51] <s3r3n1t7> JediMaster, nothing wrong whatsoever. You said you think it's related to xorg, can you check their log file?
[11:51] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, Xorg.0.log: xf86OpenConsole: VT_WAITACTIVE failed: Interrupted system call
[11:51] <JediMaster> s3r3n1t7, that's what's killing X