[12:12] <robotgeek> tanlaan: yes
[12:12] <tanlaan> robotgeek: ok, then ill get started on installing os 9 and kubuntu dual boot
[12:13] <robotgeek> tanlaan: okay. i have not used it with os 9
[12:13] <tanlaan> robotgeek: oo, are the instructions on the website fine for kubuntu?
[12:13] <h> if it is the hw, I wonder how to find out?
[12:13] <tanlaan> robotgeek: because i do know that it is an rpm, and that i need to use something like alien on it right?
[12:14] <robotgeek> tanlaan: its in the ubuntu repos
[12:14] <joe3k> h: first of all you can check your dmesg output
[12:14] <tanlaan> robotgeek: oo ok that makes it a LOT easier, lol
[12:14] <tanlaan> robotgeek:  ok then im off :D
[12:14] <tanlaan> robotgeek:  thanks for you help
[12:14] <joe3k> h: 'dmesg | tail -n 20' or use > 20
[12:16] <h> I have output to show you, shall I join another # so that I don't litter this page?
[12:17] <cox377> joe3k: its asking me for which flags, i've selected boot partition
[12:17] <joe3k> h: well do you see there something looking like errors?
[12:17] <h> for sure!
[12:17] <joe3k> cox377: ....flags? don't get it :)
[12:18] <joe3k> h: ok so paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:18] <h> this irc says I have to register, but I don't know how.
[12:18] <joe3k> h: please paste to the url
[12:18] <Hawkwind> !register | h
[12:18] <ubotu> h: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:18] <joe3k> h: and then paste the resulting url here
[12:19] <hackeron> anyone? - how do I stop gwenview from playing videos or at least stop resetting my volume from 3% to f****** 80%??
[12:19] <h> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33763/
[12:19] <h> that's slick :)
[12:19] <h> i didn't know you could do that
[12:19] <Chousuke> eep
[12:20] <Chousuke> that looks evil
[12:20] <joe3k> h: i'm sorry too bad
[12:20] <joe3k> Chousuke: :)
[12:20] <Chousuke> failing hardware?
[12:20] <cox377> joe3k: anyway, i made a swap of 1gb, select ext3 as primary file system and it's now installing, it didnt say anything about mbr
[12:20] <h> well, who knows?  The thing works fone in my Mac.
[12:20] <h> i meant it works fine
[12:21] <h> keep in mind, this is just a puny external firewire drive
[12:21] <joe3k> cox377: it will maybe later ... actually the boot loaders are installed usually at the end
[12:21] <joe3k> h: could be that the drivers for the firewire are not ok
[12:22] <h> the ones Ubuntu is using here?
[12:22] <h> ...on my box/
[12:22] <h> ?\
[12:22] <DekKeD> I am trying Beryl and all my Windows have no borders and no titlebar. Any fix?
[12:23] <joe3k> h: what fw controller do you have? some onboard one?
[12:23] <h> um, how do I tell?
[12:23] <h> lspci?
[12:23] <joe3k> h: try lspci
[12:23] <h> :)
[12:25] <h> joe3k:    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33765/
[12:25] <londo4> help, I need hyperterminal, who knows what is the hyperterminal in kubuntu?
[12:25] <robotgeek> londo4: which program did you decide on?
[12:26] <joe3k> h: btw do you have dapper or edgy?
[12:27] <cox377> joe3k: ok cool just checking, i may have deleted the partition on my primary drive anyway haha. i didnt read the partition manager properly ,, it did come up with an error saying cannot delete but i suppose i wont know till i reboot
[12:27] <h> it looks like I do not;  however, I tried searching synaptic, and found no results.
[12:27] <londo4> robotgeek: I need to use or config myn router, en I don`t what kubuntu use to connect a router from console port
[12:28] <robotgeek> londo4: did i not point you to a couple of links yesterday.
[12:28] <joe3k> cox377: well that's the reason i always do that stuff manually ..... not to get surprised
[12:28] <robotgeek> i dont know as i havent done it myself before
[12:28] <londo4> ok
[12:28] <joe3k> h: it's the ubuntu version, it's not a package
[12:29] <joe3k> h: can you please do 'uname -a'
[12:29] <h> oh, one moment...
[12:29] <cox377> joe3k: i may learn the hardway
[12:29] <cox377> ;)
[12:29] <londo4> robotgeek: do you know what minicom is?
[12:29] <robotgeek> londo4: nope
[12:30] <joe3k> cox377: anyway these are the "dirty" installers i meant :)
[12:30] <h> ..h-desktop 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Fri Oct 13 18:41:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:30] <joe3k> h: ok, this is edgy ....
[12:32] <joe3k> h: seems to be this one, http://www.linux1394.org/view_device.php?id=978 and should "work great"
[12:33] <h> you're saying that's my hardware, correct?
[12:33] <joe3k> h: well i'm afraid i can't help more .... you could try to google for the error messages or look for kernel/ubuntu bugs
[12:33] <joe3k> h: yes
[12:33] <joe3k> h: look at the lspci entry on that page
[12:35] <vega-> what's the kubuntu "de facto" iptables/netfilter frontend? if there is such a default..
[12:35] <h> joe3k:  I do thank you for your help though.
[12:35] <BluesKaj> It sure would be nice to get access to my Monitor and display controls so i can fix this desktop and make it more useable again
[12:36] <david__> hey can someone help me with installing java runtime environment?
[12:36] <joe3k> h: ok ... hope you find someone else who has more exp with fw :) gotta go to bed anyway now ;)
[12:36] <joe3k> gn
[12:36] <vega-> david__: theres excellent docs on that in ubuntu/kubuntu wiki
[12:36] <h> Thanks again, bye///
[12:37] <david__> thanks
[12:37] <vega-> and besides nowadays i think it's just "apt-get install sun-java5-jre"
[12:37] <david__> im also having trouble running Beryl. dont suppose anyone can help with that aswell :)
[12:46] <Dr_willis> Heh - every so often a cute game shows up..   http://grubbygames.com/games.php   'fizzball' seems to be such a game. :) too bad its comercial.. $20 :( but the demo is very very long.. heh
[12:58] <BluesKaj> gotta get my desktop back ... no access to monitor/display controls !
[12:59] <intelikey> Jucato !
[12:59] <BluesKaj> WB Jucato
[01:00] <Jucato> O.O
[01:00] <Jucato> moin! :)
[01:01] <BluesKaj> my desktop is HUGE ...need accwss to Monitor res controls but I have orphaned modules somwhere preventing it !
[01:01] <Jucato> try reinstalling kde-guidance, if it helps.. :(
[01:02] <BluesKaj> Jucato, already the newest version
[01:03] <Jucato> by reinstall, I meant "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-guidance"
[01:04] <fabio> #sesso
[01:04] <fabio> sesso per tutti
[01:04] <fabio> siiiiiiiiiiiii
[01:04] <intelikey> kde-guidance is written in python
[01:04] <noiesmo> I am running nvidia driver 9269 on kubuntu edgy I have resolution set to 1152x864 however when I start Opengl game the resolution switches to 1024x768 is there a way to stop this and retain 1152x864 res
[01:04] <fabio> lo sesso
[01:04] <intelikey> ?
[01:04] <fabio> nel sesso
[01:04] <ubuntu> how do you uncomment the two universe repositories?
[01:04] <fabio> no?
[01:05] <intelikey> !it
[01:05] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:05] <Xal2> what is a good onscreen keyboard?
[01:05] <Jucato> !universe | ubuntu
[01:05] <ubotu> ubuntu: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:07] <intelikey> After unpacking 357MB disk space will be freed.
[01:07] <intelikey> To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'
[01:07] <intelikey>  ?]  Yes, do as I say!
[01:07] <intelikey> hmmmm ooops.
[01:08] <intelikey> from ^ sudo apt-get remove --purge python*
[01:10] <BluesKaj> Jucato, success ! ...thx !
[01:10] <Jucato> nice :)
[01:10] <BluesKaj> :)
[01:11] <intelikey> looks like if it starts with a 'k' then removing python will remove it....
[01:12] <BluesKaj> I like the 'history" command in the terminal cuz one can go back to a reference command if one forgets :0
[01:12] <BluesKaj> :)
[01:12] <intelikey> BluesKaj uparrow...
[01:12] <londo4> how can I get into the root directorie?
[01:12] <intelikey> !hiden
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hiden - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <intelikey> !hidden
[01:12] <ubotu> Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[01:12] <|lostbyte|> BluesKaj, ctrl + r and type a little of the command.
[01:13] <BluesKaj> intelikey, upnarrow ?
[01:13] <intelikey> londo4 ^   konsole  cd /path...
[01:13] <intelikey> BluesKaj yes.  in the bash shell [up-arrow]  key
[01:13] <BluesKaj> oh ok ... DOH!
[01:15] <BluesKaj> well, "history" lists everything ... byut i like the uparrow as well.. cool!
[01:16] <intelikey> BluesKaj one can uparrow and then edit lines as well as using macros   man bash for all the fun stuff
[01:17] <ubuntu> what is mac on linux set under on the ubuntu repositories
[01:17] <ubuntu> *?
[01:17] <Dr_willis> !find mac
[01:17] <ubotu> Found: emacs, emacs-el, emacs-goodies-el, emacs-nox, emacs21 (and 89 others)
[01:17] <Dr_willis> Hmm... !apple
[01:17] <ubuntu> i tried mol, and searching "mac"
[01:18] <Dr_willis> thats a ppc thing?
[01:18] <ubuntu> yea
[01:18] <ubuntu> its so you can run mac OS in linux
[01:19] <robotgeek> ubuntu: mol, i think
[01:19] <tanlaan> robotgeek: only atomix comes up
[01:19] <robotgeek> tanlaan: momento
[01:20] <BluesKaj> !Bill Gates
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Bill Gates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <BluesKaj> :)
[01:20] <robotgeek> tanlaan: taken a look at the wikipage?
[01:20] <BluesKaj> !OSX
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about OSX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <tanlaan> robotgeek: nope
[01:22] <robotgeek> tanlaan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacOnLinuxHowto
[01:24] <intelikey> that origenal 357m now another  58.1MB of libs via deborphan... i'll have some more free space now....
[01:25] <intelikey> now if i remove perl .......
[01:25] <intelikey> After unpacking 536MB disk space will be freed.
[01:30] <ineedehelp> ok, I am completely lost....how in the heck do I install the kde enviroment in ubuntu?
[01:31] <ineedehelp> hello
[01:32] <Dr_willis> the kubuntu faq tells ya. :P
[01:32] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:32] <ineedehelp> well
[01:32] <intelikey> ineedehelp sudo apt-get install kde
[01:32] <Dr_willis> and watch it go.,
[01:32] <fildo> is there any issues with qt ? in kde
[01:33] <Dr_willis> fildo,  Hmm... id hope not. :)
[01:33] <fildo> let me rephrase that, known issues?
[01:33] <Dr_willis> heh
[01:33] <Dr_willis> not any that i am aware of.
[01:33] <ineedehelp> ok, that was what I needed....the faq (from what I could see) just told me WHAT I needed to install, and not how
[01:33] <Dr_willis> ineedehelp,  simple way from a shell ------->  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:34] <Dr_willis> or fire up synaptic and search for 'kubuntu-desktop'
[01:34] <Jucato> ineedehelp: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[01:35] <Zarephath> Hey Dr_willis : How goes it?
[01:35] <Dr_willis> how Zarephath
[01:35] <Dr_willis> testing out some demos of some games..
[01:36] <Dr_willis> FizzBall - is an amusing game . Not free however.
[01:36] <Dr_willis> but almost worth the $20 - considering i spent the last hr+ playing the demo..
[01:36] <ineedehelp> ok, thanks guys...I guess I'll see how this goes
[01:37] <ineedehelp> also, any good book reccomendations?
[01:37] <intelikey> ineedehelp rute-book
[01:38] <mildner> any german here
[01:38] <BluesKaj> !de
[01:38] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:41] <ryanakca> the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is ubuntu-desktop vs kubuntu-desktop, right?
[01:41] <Jucato> basically, GNOME vs KDE
[01:42] <Dr_willis> Yep.
[01:42] <ryanakca> thought so
[01:42] <Dr_willis> I install them both. :)
[01:43] <ryanakca> I have a pile of window managers installed :)
[01:43] <Jucato> you don't have e17?
[01:43] <ryanakca> probably do...
[01:43] <Jucato> aewm? hm... never heard of that one
[01:44] <ryanakca> aewm - a minimalist window manager for X11
[01:44] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, so you choose which desktop at the login page ?
[01:45] <Jucato> aren't they all minimalist already? (aside from xfce, gnome and kde) :P
[01:45] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  exactly
[01:45] <Dr_willis> thers lots of diffrent window managers to play with. :)
[01:46] <ryanakca> Jucato: afterstep isn't THAT minimalist
[01:46] <Dr_willis> from the uberlight to the uber-heavy
[01:46] <Jucato> ah
[01:46] <Dr_willis> Afterstep is sort of old-skool. :)
[01:46] <Dr_willis> I like Windowmaker for a alternative
[01:47] <ryanakca> I have Enlightenment as well
[01:47] <Dr_willis> puppylinux uses jwm which is very very light
[01:47] <Dr_willis> then ya got others with different design goals.
[01:47] <Dr_willis> MatchBox (not related to fluxbox/blackbox) then the other XYZbox's
[01:47] <Dr_willis> wmx, wmii, icewm (a nice one also)
[01:47] <Dr_willis> sawfish (or is it sawmill now?)
[01:48] <Jucato> heheh
[01:48] <ryanakca> icewm is nice
[01:48] <Jucato> there's already fluxbuntu I think, or whatever it's called
[01:48] <ryanakca> yeah
[01:48] <Dr_willis> yes - thats a work in progress i hear.
[01:48] <ryanakca> fubuntu: fvwm + ubuntu
[01:48] <Jucato> the ebuntu never took off it seems
[01:48] <ryanakca> fubuntu95 = fvwm 95 + ubuntu
[01:49] <ryanakca> what happened to zUbuntu?
[01:49] <ineedehelp> well, I'm a n00b at linux (I am usually a computer nerd, but we didn't have enough money for me to have my own computer, and my family won't let me install on our shared computer, so this is my first time with linux)
[01:49] <Dr_willis> How about a "SelectWhatWHenYouInstallUbuntu"
[01:49] <ryanakca> a SWWYIUbuntu?
[01:49] <Dr_willis> ineedehelp,  live cd + a usb memory stick = easy way to have linux. :)
[01:49] <ryanakca> like most distros now adays?
[01:50] <Jucato> hm... how about PSUbuntu3
[01:50] <ryanakca> even though you'd undup with like 4 cds...
[01:50] <Dr_willis> Dont even get me started on SONY...
[01:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:50] <ryanakca> lol
[01:50] <Jucato> WUbuntii?
[01:50] <family> I'm getting a crash every time I attempt to launch Konsole, anyone else ?
[01:50] <Dr_willis> WTFubuntu :_
[01:50] <ryanakca> Goobuntu
[01:51] <Jucato> hm... looks like a nice naming alternative... put prefixes and suffixes around *ubunt* or *bunt*
[01:51] <ineedehelp> well, I finally got the CD in the mail (live in the country, so our sattelite only has a 512k connection), and I think I'm going to go buy a book on linux tonight
[01:51] <family> what command shows the packages, and the version of them ?
[01:51] <Jucato> ineedehelp: before you go buy a book, you might want to check out the Kubuntu Desktop Guide that comes with the installation
[01:52] <family> and is there a way to easily _downgrade_ to my prior installed package of konsole/kde ?
[01:52] <Dr_willis> ineedehelp,  theres lots of online docs.. and some better live cds out then the Ubuntu ones.
[01:52] <Dr_willis> depends on what you want to do  for the most part however.
[01:52] <Jucato> the Desktop Guide can be read offline for your viewing convenience
[01:52] <Jucato> ah yes, better Live CD's...
[01:53] <Dr_willis> New version of PuppyLinux just came out. :)
[01:53] <Dr_willis> testing out MCNLive also.
[01:53] <ineedehelp> hmmmm, ok, thanks. I just like to tweak everything and get a feel for whats going on. I guess I'll just have to snoop around a bit
[01:53] <ineedehelp> thanks
[01:53] <family> Dr_willis: think I might be in need of a downgrade, got a second to help me identify versions of my Konsole/kde, and get me started on trying a lower version
[01:53] <family> Dr_willis: right now Konsole crashes every time I try to start it
[01:54] <Dr_willis> family,  ive never heard of anyone needing to do a downgrade like that...
[01:54] <ryanakca> family: apt-cache show package
[01:54] <Dr_willis> family,  as a test.. go to the console, and create a new user, then login with that user and see if the same problem happens
[01:54] <family> Dr_willis: Trevios Ubuntu Edgy Sources list
[01:54] <family> # http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/blog/?page_id=13
[01:54] <Dr_willis> also you may want to 'sudo apt-get install xterm' so you can try launching xterm, instead of konsole.
[01:54] <ryanakca> what was mtp (port 57)?
[01:55] <family> Dr_willis: good idea, if not I can just nuke my prefs or /tmp -- riiight ;)
[01:55] <Dr_willis> kde settings are in .kde
[01:55] <Dr_willis> IF the new user works.. it may be a .kde/* settings issue
[01:56] <family> Dr_willis: crash reports a lib error, want me to drop it on pastebin ?
[01:56] <family> !pastebin
[01:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:57] <Dr_willis> family,  proberly wont do me much good to see it.
[01:57] <Dr_willis> family,  it crashes with the new user still?
[01:57] <family> I find it strange, if it is a lib error that its the only thing I've seen act up
[01:57] <family> Dr_willis: I'll go create the user... one sec I just tried nuking .kde/share/conf/konsolerc
[01:59] <Dr_willis> egads - if you have been using that site for your apt repos list.... thats scary. :)
[01:59] <Dr_willis> I tend to add a site i need... then install the stuff.. then remove it from my sources.list (or comment it out)
[01:59] <ryanakca> why don't we use #flood?
[01:59] <Dr_willis> its too damp and musty
[01:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:59] <Jucato> too flooded?
[02:00] <Jucato> :)
[02:00] <family> Dr_willis: you talking to me on the sources.list egads ?
[02:00] <ineedehelp> ok, so which is better? KDE or Gnome? because I am still having trouble getting KDE t even install
[02:00] <jeff_> hi, all
[02:00] <ryanakca> why don't we use #flood?
[02:00] <family> Dr_willis: going to do the new user now... wish me luck
[02:00] <Dr_willis> yea - thats a bit extreme family
[02:01] <ryanakca> ineedehelp: KDE :) in terminal/console run: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[02:01] <family> Dr_willis: yeah, been messing with that the last couples days, and starting to think it was a mistake
[02:01] <ryanakca> I mean, it depends on your personal preference
[02:01] <jeff_> stupid question -- I've got a new Edgy install here, and the Disks & Filesystems manager is telling me I can't use NFS file systems with the currently installed kernel.
[02:01] <Dr_willis> family,  heh - i got that site bookmarked... but im not THAT brave to use it.
[02:01] <Dr_willis> :P
[02:02] <jeff_> I installed nfs-common, but I'm used to Mandr[ake|iva] , which needed the nfs-utils rpm.  What package am I missing here to allow my machine to act as a NFS client?
[02:02] <Dr_willis> !nfs
[02:02] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[02:03] <jeff_> Dr_willis: ah, thanks.  I didn't know there was a bot in-channel.
[02:03] <Dr_willis> !bot
[02:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:06] <ineedehelp> ryanakca: I tried that, but it give me an error telling me my packages are broken
[02:07] <ryanakca> ineedehelp: pastebin please
[02:07] <ineedehelp> do I need to get some other ones? the ubuntu website told me my disc should come with it
[02:07] <ineedehelp> Reading package lists... Done
[02:07] <ineedehelp> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:07] <ineedehelp> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[02:07] <ineedehelp> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[02:07] <ineedehelp> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[02:07] <ineedehelp> or been moved out of Incoming.
[02:08] <ryanakca> !pastebin
[02:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:08] <ryanakca> ineedehelp: what commands are you running? can you pastebin your sources.list please?
[02:09] <sponix> Dr_willis, crashes under this user as well, exact same lib error
[02:09] <sponix> Dr_willis, could you post a sane sources.list for me so I can have it for the reinstall ?
[02:10] <BonBonTheJon> has source-o-matic been updated for edgy
[02:10] <sponix> BonBonTheJon, not that I've seen
[02:10] <ineedehelp> oj crap
[02:10] <ineedehelp> I gtg
[02:10] <ineedehelp> I'll try again tonight....peace
[02:10] <Dr_willis> !source
[02:10] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:11] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[02:11] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:11] <Dr_willis> wait a sec..not sure that last one supported edgy yet.
[02:11] <Dr_willis> heh.
[02:11] <sponix> nope, or I would have used it
[02:11] <Dr_willis> !sources.list
[02:11] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:11] <BonBonTheJon> yeah, who is in charge of source-o-matic?
[02:11] <Dr_willis> of course chagneing your sources.list NOW is a bit late. :)
[02:13] <sponix> yeah... plan to just nuke/reinstall but want a sane sources.list first
[02:13] <Jucato> wiki.kubuntu.org/Jucato has a sane sources.list
[02:13] <Jucato> let me make that clickable... http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Jucato
[02:14] <Jucato> that very much the default sources.list that comes with Edgy
[02:15] <sponix> is there an easy way to make apt compare what I have against the current of the sane one, and step down ?
[02:15] <Dr_willis> !apt
[02:15] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:15] <Dr_willis> heh... that would be an interesting thing to do.
[02:15] <Dr_willis> remove all programs tht came from alternative repos...
[02:19] <Petzi> moin
[02:19] <sponix> what was the command to show all installed pkg's and their version etc ?
[02:19] <BonBonTheJon> sponix: dpkg -l
[02:19] <Varjat_by> Hi! Is anybody try to install LIRC on Kubuntu?
[02:20] <fildo> no
[02:20] <fildo> konversation is better
[02:20] <fildo> or bitchx
[02:20] <BonBonTheJon> fildo: I agree
[02:20] <fildo> sudo apt-get install konversation / bitchx
[02:20] <fildo> nice n simple
[02:20] <Varjat_by> dmesg write the following : [17180030.876000]  lirc_dev: no version for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted
[02:21] <Varjat_by> What does it mean?
[02:21] <Varjat_by> [17180030.876000]  lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61
[02:21] <Varjat_by> [17180195.492000]  lirc_gpio (-1): could not get card type
[02:21] <BonBonTheJon> fildo: different LIRC
[02:22] <gupta> Whle compiling something: checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[02:22] <gupta> what's up? package missing?
[02:22] <Jucato> gupta: have you installed "kde-devel"?
[02:22] <gupta> let me check
[02:22] <wildchild> !kde-devel
[02:22] <ubotu> kde-devel: the K Desktop Environment development files and modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[02:23] <wildchild> what is kde-devel used for
[02:23] <Jucato> for compiling kde apps
[02:23] <wildchild> aa
[02:23] <Jucato> anything related to kde development
[02:24] <gupta> urgh, its not installe and needs to update kfind/kicker to install :(
[02:24] <intelikey> is there any substitute/alternative for the ppp package ?
[02:25] <gupta> total 77mb.. any other alternatives?
[02:25] <Jucato> gupta: none. you need kde-devel to compile kde apps
[02:25] <Jucato> although I'm not sure why kfind and kicker would be upgraded in the process
[02:25] <wildchild> how can I set konqueror that the view wuld be "tree view"
[02:25] <wildchild> it's allways "icon view"
[02:26] <Jucato> View menu -> View Mode
[02:26] <Jucato> the Settings -> Save View Profile as....
[02:26] <wildchild> tnx..
[02:27] <intelikey> Unable to open vt 2: Permission denied
[02:27] <voidmage> I have a weird thing going on, sometimes /proc/cpuinfo reports the wrong cpu speed
[02:27] <wildchild> jucato, how can I set that conkqueror will automatically run "my profile"
[02:27] <wildchild> automatically = when start konqueror
[02:28] <intelikey> wildchild save as default
[02:28] <Jucato> kfmclient openProfile "profile" or konqueror --profile "profile"
[02:29] <sponix> Dr_willis, BonBonTheJon fixed konsole with a forced remove, and downgrade by apt-get -f install
[02:29] <intelikey> Jucato can't he save the profile as "default" and do as much ?
[02:30] <sponix> Dr_willis, what is in multiverse ?
[02:30] <Jucato> well, I was presuming he made his own because of the "my profile" reference
[02:30] <Dr_willis> an addational repository of not officialy supported packages
[02:30] <Dr_willis> !multiverse
[02:30] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:30] <wildchild> kfmclient: Unknown option '--profile'
[02:30] <wildchild> kfmclient: Use --help to get a list of available command line options.
[02:30] <Dr_willis> whats in it.. specificially.. no clue. :)
[02:30] <intelikey> Jucato ah   well i was assuming it was an extention of the tree view Q
[02:32] <intelikey> so my bad again....
[02:32] <Jucato> wildchild: I said "kfmclient openProfile "profile""
[02:32] <Jucato> or "konqueror --profile "profile""
[02:32] <Jucato> btw, it would probably be best if you just modified the existing profiles (if you want0
[02:32] <Jucato> anyway, afk for now
[02:33] <intelikey> anyone know of any alternative to ppp package   i refuse to reinstall perl on this system and it seems that ppp depends on perl.
[02:33] <intelikey> ?
[02:33] <Dr_willis> well aint you a Ellitist..
[02:33] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:34] <intelikey> some times....
[02:34] <intelikey> :)
[02:34] <intelikey> but i see no reason that i should have to have perl just to connect to the inet.
[02:35] <Dr_willis> The internet runs on perl!
[02:35] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:35] <Dr_willis> its all about the pipes!
[02:35] <Dr_willis> Al Gore Invented Perl!
[02:35] <intelikey> no.  it runs on smoke.    remember.
[02:35] <intelikey> but bill didn't inhale
[02:35] <Dr_willis> actually i think it runs on Coal. :)
[02:36] <Dr_willis> MS pattented the Internet!
[02:36] <Dr_willis> ;)
[02:36] <intelikey> ;/
[02:36] <intelikey> M$ pattented .   and  -  and  !=  too.
[02:37] <mildner> please again the german page
[02:38] <intelikey> !de
[02:38] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:38] <intelikey> not that ^ ?
[02:41] <lrentz_> Anyone have an idea why my sudu command stopped working on the command line?
[02:41] <intelikey> lrentz_ group change ?
[02:41] <lrentz_> No.
[02:41] <family> Dr_willis: every package updated from that repos had 3v1 in the name, so I just nuked all them, and now I'm updating to get the originals back :P
[02:41] <intelikey> lrentz_  sudo echo working ?
[02:41] <family> Dr_willis: worked for Konsole, might keep another few issues from cropping up later
[02:42] <intelikey> if it says working back at you it is...
[02:42] <lrentz_> let me see
[02:42] <Dr_willis> apt-get remove * :)
[02:42] <lrentz_> just says sudu command not found.
[02:42] <lrentz_> Is installed though.
[02:42] <intelikey> cause sudu is not sudo
[02:43] <lrentz_> Came from suse.  Installed Kubuntu a few days ago after partnership with M$.  Taking me a bit to get use too from Suse.
[02:43] <Trevinho> family, did you get problems with my repos?
[02:43] <lrentz_> Didnt know that root was disabled by default.
[02:43] <intelikey> lrentz_ if you pasted that error.  it's pebcak   typo
[02:44] <lrentz_> didnt paste it. Just typed it.
[02:44] <lrentz_> bash: sudu: command not found
 just says sudu command not found.   <--- typo some where.
[02:44] <intelikey> lrentz_ :)
[02:45] <intelikey> lrentz_ let me say this real slowly.    S U D O
[02:45] <family> Trevinho: yeah...  Had a crashing Konsole .. want the error report ?
[02:45] <skipjack> hello, who can I find out whoch charset my Kubuntu system has ?`
[02:45] <Trevinho> mh, have you mailed me?
[02:45] <mildner> anyone who may help about kubuntu
[02:45] <Trevinho> here it works well :/
[02:45] <family> Trevinho: I nuked it forced, and then downgraded to the vanilla one, and it works
[02:46] <Trevinho> mhmh
[02:46] <lrentz_> crap.
[02:46] <lrentz_> hehehe
[02:46] <intelikey> :)
[02:46] <family> Trevinho: I saved the crash log gerated by kde into a text file
[02:46] <Trevinho> the package I built (if you don't know should support REAL transparency...
[02:46] <lrentz_> I am just so used to typing su
[02:46] <Trevinho> ok...
[02:46] <Trevinho> good
[02:46] <Trevinho>  send it me, please
[02:46] <lrentz_> thanks. for slapping me in the head.  I needed it.
[02:46] <Trevinho> are you running beryl?
[02:46] <mildner> is there any tool on the grafical desktop for partitioning the HD
[02:46] <lrentz_> ;)
[02:46] <intelikey> yeah that was a good one lrentz_ but i'm not ready to abdocate the throne just yet.   i'm still typo king here.
[02:47] <Trevinho> or compiz instead.....
[02:47] <Trevinho> maybe.....
[02:47] <Trevinho> it could be buggy :/
[02:47] <lrentz_> Thanks for the help anyway.
[02:47] <intelikey> np
[02:47] <Trevinho> family ?
[02:48] <family> !pastebin
[02:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:48] <intelikey> lrentz_ if you like having access to the root account it can be enabled.   it's not recomended by the "ubuntu team" but all that is required is setting a root passwd
[02:49] <gupta> I get this when running wayv: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33791/
[02:49] <intelikey> the ubuntu way is to only use the root jr. account    sudo -i   for a root shell.
[02:49] <lrentz_> Yes.  I did read that.  I had it enabled.  But I disabled it again.
[02:49] <family> Trevinho: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33792/
[02:49] <family> Trevinho: thats the error I kept getting
[02:49] <Trevinho> ok, a related question family
[02:49] <intelikey> lrentz_ k  just thought i'd mention.
[02:49] <lrentz_> another question if you have time?
[02:49] <Trevinho> did you run beryl while launching konsole?
[02:49] <Trevinho> and.....
[02:49] <intelikey> sure
[02:50] <Trevinho> are you using latest kubuntu binaries?
[02:50] <family> Trevinho: never heard of beryl .. and I am running the one from the kubuntu.org latest repos
[02:50] <Trevinho> mh
[02:50] <lrentz_> Just got a new laptop.  Core 2 duo.   Kubuntu recognized the dual cores. but give this message:
[02:51] <lrentz_> [17179608.272000]  APIC error on CPU0: 00(40)
[02:51] <lrentz_> [17179608.272000]  APIC error on CPU1: 00(40)
[02:51] <Trevinho> so why have you installed my konsole? it should be in the beryl repo......
[02:51] <Trevinho> ah.....
[02:51] <Trevinho> mh
[02:51] <Trevinho> maybe you've my sources.list
[02:51] <Trevinho> of you've it, comment the repo (beryl-svn)
[02:52] <Trevinho> becouse that file is suggested to beryl users only.....
[02:52] <Trevinho> anyway I'll try to fix it..
[02:52] <lrentz_> It does not seem to scale the frequencies.  Always says 1000 mhz.  Even .in intensive apps.  Its a 2 ghz Core 2 duo
[02:52] <family> Trevinho: I might have had beryl turned on.. I had most on at one point
[02:52] <Trevinho> mh
[02:53] <family> Trevinho: I just went back to a standard sources.list
[02:53] <Trevinho> becouse that version supports transparency if there's a composite manager
[02:53] <Trevinho> anyway here it works fine :/
[02:54] <Trevinho> it's so strange :/
[02:54] <lrentz_> Intelikey: any ideas?
[02:54] <intelikey> lrentz_ actually you haven't asked anything.  but before you do.   i don't have duo so i probably wont be much help there.   you should search on the ubuntu wiki's    for info on that.  there has been some chatter about scaling   but i haven't kept up with it.
[02:55] <intelikey> !wiki
[02:55] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[02:55] <intelikey> !wiki | lrentz_
[02:55] <ubotu> lrentz_: wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[02:55] <lrentz_> Ok,  Thanks.  I will check it out.
[02:56] <intelikey> lrentz_ if you can't find anything there.  check back here.
[02:56] <intelikey> k.   luck with it.
[02:56] <lrentz_> Definately will.  Alway get good help with the community.
[02:56] <lrentz_> You guys are awesome.
[02:57] <family> Trevinho: probably me not having matching libs or something odd
[02:57] <crxyem> anyone here know of a descent slax irc channel that's active besides the one here at freenode ?
[02:58] <intelikey> crxyem efnet i think
[02:58] <crxyem> I'll try there
[02:58] <crxyem> thanks
[02:58] <Mlcloud> efnet...
[02:58] <Mlcloud> meh.
[03:00] <Trevinho> family, maybe.. but it loads the same I think
[03:01] <Trevinho> please pastebin me the resoult of "ldd /usr/bin/konsole"
[03:03] <family> Trevinho: I already downgraded ... I can do it on my current one though (it runs fine)
[03:04] <Mlcloud> Is kubuntu Edgy supposed to detect network cards automatically within the system settings->network connections?
[03:05] <intelikey> well looks like i'll have to totally hack this thing to get ppp to work on it
[03:05] <Mlcloud> lshw detects the card, but the network settings itself doesn't list anything
[03:06] <Mlcloud> nooo one?
[03:06] <JohnFlux> Hey all!
[03:06] <JohnFlux> I love you all!
[03:07] <family> Trevinho: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33798/
[03:07] <Trevinho> thanks
[03:16] <keaton> This is a really, really stupid question, but how do I save a document in vim?
[03:17] <robotgeek> keaton: :wq filename
[03:18] <keaton> I'll try that, brb
[03:26] <bobindy> hi
[03:26] <pdrobe> hi
[03:26] <bobindy> do you know how to set up a kubuntu network
[03:26] <bobindy> cause I don't
[03:26] <xsacha> !samba
[03:26] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:27] <Dr_willis> the phrase 'network' is very broad. :)
[03:28] <Dr_willis> plug all the pcs into the right hubs/routers and see if they can ping each other.. if they can.. you are networked.
[03:28] <bobindy> I have two computers with ethernet and kubuntu
[03:28] <bobindy> they aren't speaking
[03:28] <Dr_willis> they both plug into a hub/router/switch?
[03:28] <bobindy> the network works flawlessly with windows
[03:28] <bobindy> yes pluged into hub
[03:29] <bobindy> dlink cards in both
[03:29] <campbch__> does anyone use/has seen eclipse?
[03:29] <Dr_willis> bobbyd,  that 'flawlessy in windows logic' never means much.. other then the hardware is working. :) so thats good..
[03:29] <bobindy> kingston hub
[03:29] <Dr_willis> bobbyd,  so get on the konsole on each..
[03:29] <bobindy> you are right
[03:29] <Dr_willis> run 'ifconfig' see what ip each machine has.
[03:29] <Dr_willis> example -->  inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:29] <bobindy> ok
[03:30] <Dr_willis> from one machine.. ping the ip of the other.
[03:30] <bobindy> how do I ping
[03:30] <Dr_willis> ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:30] <Dr_willis> networking FUNdamentals
[03:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:30] <bobindy> I know doc
[03:30] <Dr_willis> use the ip of one of the other  machines.
[03:30] <bobindy> but you gotta help me
[03:31] <Dr_willis> both machines DO have ip #'s right? and they are not the same # ?
[03:31] <bobindy> yes I assigned them numbers
[03:31] <bobindy> but I will go and run the ifconfig
[03:31] <bobindy> brb
[03:31] <Dr_willis> so ifconfig eth0
[03:31] <Dr_willis> should show the stats/info on each box's network
[03:33] <bobindy> yes
[03:34] <bobindy> it did and one of the numbers was different than what I expected
[03:34] <Dr_willis> like <IP_ADDRESS> and  <IP_ADDRESS>  differnt? or   <IP_ADDRESS>  vs <IP_ADDRESS> differnt? :P
[03:35] <bobindy> one was<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:35] <bobindy> and the other was <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:36] <Dr_willis> well every machine has <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:36] <Dr_willis> thats localhost.
[03:37] <Dr_willis> there should be a eth0 ip.. unless the network card is not confogured right
[03:37] <Dr_willis> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[03:37] <Dr_willis>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:37] <Dr_willis> and
[03:37] <Dr_willis> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:11:09:88:83:9F
[03:37] <Dr_willis>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:37] <Dr_willis> are what my current machine has.
[03:37] <keaton> Resolution problem on my ATI 9200: I've managed to get Xserver running, but now I can't get a non-widescreen resolution greater than 1024x768. It offers 1152x768 as a choice, but when I try to set it there it pops up the 'click okay to keep this setting' box but the resolution stays the same. Same thing happens if I set it to a higher resolution, I switch to 1152x768 but it stays at the higher resolution.
[03:38] <bobindy> maybe I need to go back and change the address again
[03:38] <bobindy> I did earlier but it changed
[03:39] <Dr_willis> bobindy,  its possible one network card dosent have the modules loaded.. there should be some eth# for each one.. this is a wired network right?
[03:39] <bobindy> yes
[03:39] <Dr_willis> keaton,  you installed the fglrx drivers yet?
[03:39] <bobindy> how do you load the modules
[03:39] <bobindy> I think you are on to something
[03:39] <Dr_willis> modprobe whatevermoduleyouneed
[03:39] <Dr_willis> ubuntu is normally good at networkcard detection...
[03:39] <keaton> Dr_willis: I don't know, I'll check.
[03:40] <Dr_willis> keaton,  im guessing thts a NO then. :)
[03:40] <bobindy> they are both the same type card
[03:40] <Dr_willis> !fglrx
[03:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:40] <bobindy> is modprobe a command
[03:40] <Dr_willis> try 'lsmod' on each box to see what modules
[03:40] <Dr_willis> are loaded
[03:40] <bobindy> ok
[03:40] <bobindy> brb
[03:40] <xsacha> http://www.hexus.tv/ :P crysis
[03:40] <Dr_willis> Usage: modprobe [-v]  [-V]  [-C config-file]  [-n]  [-i]  [-q]  [-Q]  [-b]  [-o <modname>]  <modname> [parameters...]
[03:44] <fyrmedic> how does one go about enabling a pcmcia card slot so I can use a wireless networking card?
[03:44] <bobindy> so use modprobe -v
[03:45] <xsacha> just modprobe modname is fine, and lsmod to check if it is loaded
[03:46] <aoeuid> when trying to install 6.10, my keyboard doesn't work properly
[03:46] <bobindy> fatal modprobe modname not found
[03:46] <bobindy> should it be sudo
[03:47] <Dr_willis> modprobe  the_name_of_the_module_you_need_to_load
[03:47] <Dr_willis> sudo modprobe  the_name_of_the_module_you_need_to_load
[03:47] <Dr_willis> heh heh >:)
[03:47] <aoeuid> >.>;
[03:47] <Dr_willis> and you compare lsmod output on both machines to be sure of the network card module name.
[03:48] <Dr_willis> aoeuid,  what kind of keyboard?
[03:48] <aoeuid> I'm using an HP pavillion dv9000
[03:48] <bobindy> what is the name of the module
[03:48] <aoeuid> :/
[03:48] <aoeuid> notebook
[03:49] <Dr_willis> aoeuid,  Hmm..  may be some quirks with that noteboot. There are Ubuntu Wiki/forum sections on various notebooks/laptops
[03:49] <Dr_willis> aoeuid,  could also try a usb keyboard to see if that works properly.
[03:49] <aoeuid> I don't have on
[03:49] <aoeuid> e
[03:49] <Dr_willis> egads
[03:49] <Dr_willis> I must have 12+ keyboards on a shelf.. heh heh:)
[03:50] <aoeuid> lol
[03:50] <Dr_willis> I really need to clean some of those...
[03:50] <Dr_willis> coffe stains that are 3+ yrs old..
[03:50] <aoeuid> xD
[03:50] <aoeuid> where on the forums?
[03:50] <JohnFlux> Dr_willis: just wait until they are older and leave home
[03:52] <aoeuid> I tried just searching the forums but there's nothing useful specifically for this one
[03:53] <Dr_willis> ttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[03:53] <Dr_willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[03:54] <bobindy> so I modprobe the etho0
[03:54] <aoeuid> heh
[03:54] <bobindy> and nothing
[03:54] <aoeuid> they don't even have the dv9000
[03:54] <ryanakca> how do I block all services from the outside except ssh, http and https? I've been messing around with iptables all day with no success... Firestarter and Guarddog are not what I'm looking for. Any suggestions?
[03:54] <aoeuid> it was only released not too long ago :/
[03:55] <Dr_willis> aoeuid,  that may be an issue.
[03:55] <aoeuid> yeah
[03:55] <Dr_willis> aoeuid,  there may be a similer but older model.
[03:55] <aoeuid> hmm
[03:55] <bobindy> ok well I thank you for your help
[03:55] <Dr_willis> ryanakca,  block everything.. then allow only those services.. would be the logical way.
[03:56] <Dr_willis> bobindy,  was the module not loaded on one machine?
[03:56] <bobindy> I module etho0 not found
[03:57] <bobindy> I typed sudo modprobe etho0
[03:57] <aoeuid> none of the older ones say anything about the keyboard not working right
[03:57] <Dr_willis> bobindy,  look at lsmod output on box #1, look at lsmod output on box #2.. those are a list of the modules loaded on each one
[03:57] <bobindy> k
[03:57] <aoeuid> is there any way I could set the keyboard layout myself?
[03:57] <Dr_willis> eth0 is NOT a modulename, nor  is eth0
[03:57] <ryanakca> Dr_willis: block everything, and then... it really blocks everything. I can't access irc or ftp or mail or anything servers, only ssh, http, https ones
[03:57] <aoeuid> OH
[03:57] <aoeuid> also
[03:58] <aoeuid> when I hit too many keys it goes to the cli
[03:58] <Dr_willis> r8169                   is the modulename for MY  machines network card.. based on the Realtek 8169 chipset
[03:58] <aoeuid> and at that point the keyboard works fine
[03:58] <aoeuid> >_<
[03:58] <Dr_willis> aoeuid,  gets weirder and weirder...
[03:58] <aoeuid> :(
[03:58] <aoeuid> yeah..
[03:59] <bobindy> tell me again how to look at ismod
[03:59] <bobindy> please
[03:59] <Dr_willis> lsmod
[03:59] <Dr_willis> is the command..  LiSt MODules
[03:59] <bobindy> says bad command
[03:59] <Dr_willis> lsmod  program to show the status of modules in the Linux Kernel
[04:00] <bobindy> command not found
[04:00] <bobindy> oops
[04:00] <Dr_willis> either your paths are screwed up.. or you are typing it wrong..
[04:02] <bobindy> I typed it wrong
[04:02] <bobindy> It is working now thanks for your patience
[04:03] <bobindy> what should I be looking for in the module list
[04:04] <Dr_willis> if the machines are identical - there MAY be a differance in the list.
[04:04] <Dr_willis> lspci should show some hint as to what network card you have.. and then you look in the list and double check to see if a simileray named module is loaded.
[04:04] <bobindy> ok
[04:05] <Alter-Ego> i am getting the following error while booting up after having my machine turned off last night
[04:06] <Alter-Ego>  /bin/sh can't access tty; job control turned off (initramfs)
[04:08] <bobindy> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Cont
[04:09] <bobindy> lspci
[04:09] <bobindy> intel_agp              22940  1
[04:10] <bobindy> lsmod
[04:10] <family> how do I turn off the stupid Kubuntu loading/shutdown logos and see the status text again ?
[04:11] <Dr_willis> agp would be a video card thing bobindy
[04:12] <Dr_willis> eppro or somthing eith   82562 in the name may be the network.. or ya could google for   '82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet  card linux 'and see what shows up
[04:12] <Dr_willis> however IF the 2 machines are identical,. and have identical lsmod outputs.. then we may be looking in the wrong area.
[04:13] <Dr_willis> family,  i normally use the nofb/nosplash options for grub to disable the eye candy
[04:13] <klerfayt> vga=normal
[04:14] <aoeuid> so is there any way that I could change what keys on the keyboard do what just with the livedisc?
[04:14] <fyrmedic> Does anyone know of a usb wireless lan adaptor that will work with debian or kubuntu?
[04:14] <family> Dr_willis: thanks ... either its hanging on shutdown/restart or just taking an extra long time
[04:14] <family> Dr_willis: imho it should take less time to shut down than start up :P
[04:15] <family> Dr_willis: the lil kubuntu image on shutdown keeps refreshing (screen flicks off then back on), but the bar doesn't seem to move
[04:15] <aoeuid> and without using the keyboard?
[04:15] <aoeuid> <_<
[04:16] <aoeuid> I can't even connect to the net since I need the keyboard to type in the network key >_<
[04:16] <bobindy> I have an idea doc I'll be back later
[04:16] <bobindy> thanks
[04:16] <fyrmedic> No takers? How about a wireless networking card (pcmcia)?
[04:18] <BonBonTheJon> fyrmedic: I have DWL-G650, uses madwifi
[04:18] <Dr_willis> fyrmedic,  it pays to use google.. and see what the various Linux laptop/desktop makers sell and suggest.
[04:19] <fyrmedic> Dr_willis: yeah I know I have been working on that
[04:19] <fyrmedic> BonBonTheJon: thanx I'll look for that.
[04:20] <fyrmedic> BonBonTheJon: that's a card not usb right?
[04:20] <BonBonTheJon> fyrmedic: card
[04:20] <fyrmedic> BonBonTheJon; thanx
[04:30] <Zaire> k somethings wrong with apt..I edited the sources list and uncommented the necessary repos and now it says it can't lock the admin directory
[04:30] <family> !optimize
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about optimize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <family> darn, I lost a good bookmark on how to optimize had prelink info
[04:31] <Zaire> !optomize
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about optomize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <eean> what is kdevelop called?
[04:35] <eean> in apt land
[04:37] <klerfayt> eean: kdevelop
[04:37] <eean> erm
[04:37] <eean> it doesn't appear to be in the default repos then?
[04:37] <eean> I'm using edgy
[04:38] <klerfayt> eean: correct; universe
[04:40] <eean> ok thanks
[04:40] <Jucato> !kdevelop
[04:41] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[04:49] <intelikey> logout segmentation fault !
[04:52] <intelikey> i'm getting "system bootup in progress - please wait"  when i try to login  and  logout seg fault   if i logout
[04:53] <intelikey> i ran /etc/rmnologin.sh    but it didn't change anything   any thoughts ?
[04:59] <intelikey> i rm'd /etc/nologin  but still can't login     ?
[05:01] <klerfayt> what is correct way to create package request? email?
[05:02] <intelikey> did you look on the ubuntu home page ?
[05:04] <family> where did they move inittab ?
[05:04] <family> vi inittab gives me nada (nothing)
[05:05] <voker57> Hi, why my Opera isn't working?
[05:07] <intelikey> family unless you are in /etc  then vi inittab should yeld nada
[05:07] <thill2708> family: type "locate inittab"
[05:07] <DekKeD> I am trying to compile Kile (a Latex editor) and when I do configure I get this, I don't know what package I should get since I seem to have them all: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!
[05:08] <thill2708> DekKed: type "sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt"
[05:08] <voker57> Opera cannot connect to Internet. Dunno why, konqueror worx good
[05:08] <family> intelikey thill2708 : edgy doesn't have inittab anymore
[05:09] <voker57> Why can it be?
[05:10] <voker57> hey
[05:10] <DekKeD> thill2708: "libqt3-mt is already the newest version."
[05:11] <intelikey> family you did not specify edgy.  but with any linux the inittab would be in /etc   that's all i was saying.   edgy uses upstart.  man upstart  for info.
[05:11] <family> intelikey: thanks
[05:12] <intelikey> now if i can get this box so i can login again.....
[05:12] <thill2708> DekKed, why aren't you just apt-get installing kate?
[05:12] <thill2708> why compile?
[05:14] <DekKeD> thill2708: because I am using TexLive, and for eg. if I install Kile from the repos it gets TeTeX and removes TexLive
[05:14] <intelikey> thill2708 kile != kate
[05:14] <DekKeD> Kile is much better for latex editing than Kate
[05:14] <sgorilla80> anyone mess with bluetooth stuff in ubuntu?
[05:14] <intelikey> DekKeD kile is in the repos too
[05:14] <fribuntu> family: My edgy has an inittab.
[05:15] <DekKeD> intelikey: look at what I just wrote :P it depends on Tetex, and it removes my Texlive
[05:15] <fribuntu> DekKeD: Well, use emaccs with auctex. Even better than Kile :)
[05:15] <intelikey> DekKeD disreguard saw your post to late.
[05:15] <DekKeD> intelikey: that's why I want to compile
[05:15] <DekKeD> :P
[05:15] <DekKeD> never used Emacs before
[05:15] <Omnifrog> boo\
[05:16] <robotgeek> vim + latexsuite == love
[05:16] <DekKeD> vim?
[05:16] <Dr_willis> Latex Suit? You Pervert!
[05:16] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:16] <robotgeek> Dr_willis: heh
[05:16] <intelikey> vim = vim improved
[05:16] <fribuntu> DekKeD: Emacs + auctex is really nice for LaTeX
[05:17] <robotgeek> intelikey: as opposed to vi, improved?
[05:17] <bobindy> anyone know what this means? a zeroconf daemon (mdnsd is not running)
[05:17] <fribuntu> DekKeD: You should give it a try. Ctrl+C, Ctrl+C (twice) is the universal command for everything :)
[05:17] <intelikey> recursive acronym
[05:17] <family> fribuntu: this fresh install of Kubuntu/edgy doesn't it uses /etc/event.d/tty*
[05:17] <Dr_willis> means you dont have a zeroconf deamon. :)
[05:18] <Dr_willis> running.
[05:18] <bobindy> yes
[05:18] <bobindy> yes
[05:18] <DekKeD> fribuntu: downloading :P
[05:18] <fribuntu> family: So?
[05:18] <bobindy> how can I fix that
[05:19] <fribuntu> DekKeD: You most likely will have to customize emacs fonts before it looks any way decent. That can be some pain.
[05:19] <DekKeD> fribuntu: i hope there is some guide in the Ubuntu Forums
[05:19] <fribuntu> DekKeD: For Emacs?
[05:20] <bobindy> durn daemon
[05:20] <bobindy> I hope he burns in hades
[05:20] <intelikey> and why can't i install man   apt-get install man  does a "Note, selecting man-db instead of man"    who did that ?
[05:20] <fribuntu> DekKeD: try http://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/
[05:21] <DekKeD> fribuntu: yes, I'm on that site now
[05:21] <bobindy> darned my network to heck
[05:22] <bobindy> anyone know how to get that daemon running again
[05:22] <bobindy> he
[05:22] <bobindy> hea
[05:22] <Dr_willis> bobindy, im not even sure what its used for.
[05:23] <bobindy> does the zeroconf need some sort of command
[05:23] <bobindy> to enable
[05:23] <bobindy> what is the zeroconf anyway
[05:24] <Dr_willis> bobindy,  what has you thinking you even need that?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> last i looked in to it. zeroconf was sort of a 'work in progress' and not needed by anything yet.
[05:24] <DekKeD> fribuntu: I have just installed emacs, no menus are created, any way of starting it if it's not from console?
[05:24] <bobindy> because when I try to use network services I get a warning about it
[05:25] <bobindy> don't you use network services to enable the network
[05:25] <Dr_willis> bobindy,   you got your machines pinging each other yet?
[05:25] <intelikey> ok somebody hold my hand a minute here.   i can su to users 1 2 & 3   but  su - user4   just sits idle for about 2 minutes and times out....  what is the deal ?     commands issued by root btw.
[05:25] <bobindy> I'm stuck
[05:25] <bobindy> where I was before
[05:26] <bobindy> I switched out a network card
[05:26] <bobindy> and that didn't help
[05:26] <Dr_willis> bobindy,  im thinking zeroconf is not the thing to be worring about.. if you cant even ping each machine/get an ip for each of them..  ypu got some deeper issues
[05:27] <bobindy> let me try it in window and make sure everything is right
[05:27] <bobindy> both machines are dual boot
[05:27] <bobindy> brb
[05:31] <intelikey> also getting { Unable to cd to "/home/name" }    but ls -l shows   drwx------ 22 name, root....   i don't understand what i'm not seeing  ???
[05:32] <intelikey>  login: name
[05:32] <intelikey> Unable to cd to "/usr/local/src"
[05:32] <intelikey>  login:
[05:33] <Dr_willis> huh
[05:33] <Dr_willis> you made a user with the name of 'name' ?
[05:33] <intelikey> err call that Unable to cd to "/home/name"    so you can understand it.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> ok :) lol
[05:34] <Dr_willis> why would it cd to /usr/local/src
[05:34] <Dr_willis> check the passwd file for a start? my entry for me is..
[05:34] <Dr_willis> willis:x:1000:1000:willis,,,:/home/willis:/bin/bash
[05:34] <intelikey> Dr_willis yes i have made a user with the name name and the passwd passwd    but not this one.
[05:35] <intelikey> Dr_willis the passwd file has correct info   and it coresponds to the error messages.
[05:35] <Dr_willis> i was wondering if there was a special service called name..   :)
[05:35] <intelikey> wouldn't matter if there was.  that's not the actual info.
[05:36] <Dr_willis> my home dir has the following permissions
[05:36] <Dr_willis> drwxr-xr-x 59 willis willis  4096 2006-11-24 23:10 willis
[05:36] <intelikey> mine is drwxr-------
[05:36] <Dr_willis> mine is owned by willis willis also.. Hmm
[05:36] <intelikey> mine by name root
[05:37] <intelikey> mine by $name root    <--- if that helps.
[05:37] <Dr_willis> Yea.. not sure why that would be that way.
[05:37] <fribuntu> DekKeD: There should be a menu entry in "Development"
[05:37] <intelikey> primary group is root.
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Hmm..  I dont mess with groups much at all. but in /etc/group i got a  group for  each user.
[05:39] <Dr_willis> willis:x:1000:
[05:39] <Dr_willis> peggy:x:1001
[05:39] <DekKeD> fribuntu: I don't have that menu
[05:39] <intelikey> i don't.    but that's not the problem.
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Ok. Mr smarty pants.. what is the problem then.. :P i got totally sidetracked...
[05:39] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[05:40] <intelikey> in fact i don't have a group for any user.   primary user is in group root     all others are in group users
[05:40] <fribuntu> DekKeD: It was created for me automagically when I installed Emacs.
[05:41] <fribuntu> DekKeD: However, you can add it manually, if you want it :)
[05:41] <intelikey> Dr_willis i copied things from a backup disk and somehow it hosed that one account.  i've rebuilt it but it still can't login.
[05:41] <fribuntu> DekKeD: Which flavour of Emacs did you install by the way?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  now thats.. odd.
[05:42] <fribuntu> DekKeD: This is true only for Emacs without X up front in the name. XEmacs might be different.
[05:44] <DekKeD> fribuntu: I got "emacs" package from repos
[05:44] <intelikey> if it was something simple i would not have mentioned it.   if it was something really really simple i may have overlooked it....
[05:44] <Dr_willis> heh - the users .bashrc isent all weird?
[05:44] <parker`> firefox vs. konqueror as a web browser, any opinions on the matter? I've noticed certain situations where firefox will crash where konqueror will handle the errors better and won't crash
[05:45] <fribuntu> DekKeD: Well, can you start it by shell?
[05:45] <fribuntu> parker`: Well, konqueror does not display some pages correctly that firefox runs fine.
[05:45] <Dr_willis> Only time ive seen firefox crash is  due to flash issues.
[05:46] <fribuntu> parker`: And konqueror is even more bloated than FF 2.0
[05:46] <parker`> fribuntu: any examples off the top of your head? just want to check it out
[05:46] <intelikey> Dr_willis it may be in the ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile i'm looking now.
[05:46] <fribuntu> parker`: Sure. Try http://nwn.bioware.com/ and check out the menues on the left ...
[05:47] <DekKeD> fribuntu: yes, thats really a minor problem :P
[05:47] <parker`> fribuntu: ah, the menus will not pop up, hm
[05:48] <parker`> anyone know why aimfight.com crashes on ubuntu?
[05:48] <parker`> does it require flash 8 or something?
[05:48] <fribuntu> parker`: And I have no idea why. It is rather annoying though.
[05:48] <intelikey> Dr_willis nothing in either that should cause any trubble.   .bashrc has 5 aliases and one function   .profile has one line   . /etc/profile    that's not a problem.
[05:48] <fribuntu> parker`: No, i have no flash installed. It is not a flash site.
[05:48] <fribuntu> parker`: Some javascript issue.
[05:48] <linuxbomb> the menus work fine here
[05:48] <parker`> fribuntu: I meant aimfight.com
[05:48] <fribuntu> linuxbomb: Using what browser?
[05:49] <linuxbomb> ff
[05:49] <parker`> lol
[05:49] <parker`> they work on FF, they don't work on konqueror is what we're saying
[05:49] <fribuntu> linuxbomb: Yeah, that is no problem. We are talking about konqueror not being able to handle them.
[05:50] <fribuntu> parker`: I have come accross some more sites like that. But I cannot remember their URLs
[05:50] <linuxbomb>  firefox vs. konqueror as a web browser, any opinions on the matter? I've noticed certain situations where firefox will crash where konqueror will handle the errors better and won't crash
[05:50] <parker`> ? that's my message lol
[05:50] <intelikey> Dr_willis this gets wierder yet... i chowned it to root so the user couldn't access his home and i can su to the user     chown it back and su just hangs then times out....
[05:50] <DekKeD> linuxbomb: my vote goes for Opera :P
[05:50] <linuxbomb> parker whats so funny
[05:51] <linuxbomb> mozilla suite
[05:51] <intelikey> not actually hung,  just times out.
[05:51] <parker`> just wondering why you copy and pasted my message, were you just re-asking?
[05:51] <fribuntu> DekKeD: Naw, even more bloated than FF and Konqueror combined.
[05:51] <DekKeD> bloated? it rox
[05:51] <DekKeD> best browser experience
[05:51] <fribuntu> parker`: Well, both browsers handle that site well ... let me start a game on both.
[05:52] <parker`> fribuntu: aimfight.com works for you?? it crashes instantly for me
[05:52] <parker`> fribuntu: on FF, konqueror doesn't crash, but it won't load the game either
[05:52] <fribuntu> parker`: Works fine here
[05:52] <parker`> fribuntu: what version of flash player you running? 7 or 8?
[05:52] <parker`> is 8 even out for linux?
[05:53] <fribuntu> parker`: 9
[05:53] <fribuntu> parker`: the beta
[05:53] <parker`> fribuntu: how would I go about aprehending that?
[05:53] <fribuntu> parker`: Hang on ...
[05:54] <Dr_willis> aimfight.com works for me.
[05:54] <parker`> Dr_willis: which flash player?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> 9 i think
[05:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:54] <Dr_willis> theres flash at the site?
[05:54] <parker`> yeah, that must be my problem, I'm running 7
[05:54] <fribuntu> parker`: Sorry, I have flashplayer 7 installed. Package is "flashplugin-nonfree"
[05:55] <parker`> fribuntu: hmm I have flash 7, too, but it crashes every time I try to load it.
[05:55] <Dr_willis> guess that intro anime is flash.. how.. uesless.
[05:55] <fribuntu> parker`: But you can get 9 at Adobe directly.
[05:55] <parker`> I know it uses flash because I had to install flash to view the site
[05:55] <billytwowilly> so if I had a request for the next release where would I send that? well, not a request, just the default is stupid in akregator.. archives all articles... hella slow with feeds that get lots of articles..
[05:56] <fribuntu> parker`: Well, anything with "aim" in it is poop.
[05:56] <fribuntu> parker`: Even that silly game :)
[05:56] <fribuntu> parker`: Don't install flash just for that site.
[05:57] <parker`> fribuntu: yeah, I know, but it still bugs me that my browser is crashing for *any* site
[05:57] <fribuntu> fribuntu: Which plugin did you install? The "nonfree" one?
[05:57] <fribuntu> aha
[05:57] <fribuntu> I am getting tired
[05:57] <fribuntu> talking to myself again :)
[05:57] <fribuntu> I meant parker` of course.
[05:58] <parker`> fribuntu: I had to accept a license to install, so I'm pretty sure that's nonfree
[05:58] <intelikey> i don't get it.   su user   just sits there until it times out     chown 0:0 -R /users/home     and  su user  badabing it works but i cant access my home....
[05:59] <fribuntu> parker`: they are both non-free. But just one mentions it in the name, I think.
[05:59] <parker`> fribuntu: I come from Gentoo so I am new to apt... I am typing apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree but it's not finding it
[05:59] <Dr_willis> !flash
[05:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:00] <Dr_willis> !find flash
[06:00] <ubotu> Found: flashybrid, libflash-dev, libflash-mozplugin, libflash-swfplayer, libflash0c2 (and 6 others)
[06:00] <Dr_willis> i forget how i installed it..
[06:01] <parker`> I <3 portage, apt is weird to me right now
[06:02] <Dr_willis> I perfer apt :)
[06:02] <parker`> ubuntu is much better for my laptop though, gentoo takes way too much damn time to setup twice lol
[06:02] <Dr_willis> *buntu does great on my laptop as well
[06:03] <parker`> plus built-in wireless drivers
[06:03] <parker`> big plus
[06:03] <parker`> is there a way to hack kubuntu to allow su?
[06:03] <Dr_willis> theres no 'hacking' needed
[06:03] <Dr_willis> root user just dosent have a password.
[06:04] <klerfayt> one thing I do not like is that new power management in edgy doesn't allow to limit cpu freq
[06:04] <Dr_willis> so set one. :)
[06:04] <parker`> ah okay
[06:04] <parker`> ahh perfect
[06:04] <Dr_willis> its like a "linux profiecny' test.. :P see if you can figure out how to do it. then you can...
[06:04] <parker`> why didn't I think of that? :D
[06:04] <fribuntu> parker`: you probably need to add the right repository to your /etc/apt/sources-list
[06:04] <intelikey> well i'll be a god knoted rascal
[06:05] <intelikey> Dr_willis i found it
[06:05] <intelikey> it was the  . /etc/profile  line in  ~/.profile      cause /etc/profile had . ~/.profile   in it.....   loop
[06:06] <parker`> bah, ubuntu doesn't have any mirrors at my school like gentoo does!
[06:06] <parker`> I'm sure the guide covers all the repos and stuff right?
[06:06] <intelikey> so i rm'd 2g of files for naught.
[06:07] <intelikey> oh well.
[06:07] <parker`> anyone know how ksh differs from bash?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  heh - i was THINKING that earlier... but dident say anything. :)
[06:08] <Jasey> hello there. is the latest konsole package in edgy broken? it crashes before it even starts up, on my pc o_o
[06:08] <Dr_willis> i dident even think .profile was used much any more
[06:11] <Dr_willis> Jasey,  ive seen no issues with it.
[06:12] <Jasey> im stuck using xterm for now
[06:12] <Dr_willis> but i do recall someone e4lse in here today with some sort of konsole crashing issues.. but he had so many 'other'  repos added.. not sure what caused the problem.
[06:13] <Jasey> oh. well the only other repo i have is a bleeding edge edgy repo for wine =\
[06:14] <klerfayt> Jasey: reinstall konsole
[06:14] <Jasey> ive tried
[06:15] <Jasey> thats the first thing i do =\
[06:15] <Jasey> im going to force konsole back to an older version for now
[06:15] <klerfayt> Jasey: I had trouble with transparent color schemes now they work
[06:15] <Jasey> i dont use transparent colour schemes lol
[06:15] <klerfayt> Jasey: maybe it is config file?
[06:15] <Jasey> doubt it. it was working fine, then i did a dist-upgrade with apt-get, and voila it isnt working
[06:16] <klerfayt> Jasey: look into ~/.xsession-errors
[06:16] <Jasey> nah i just found what was wrong
[06:16] <bobindy> dr will
[06:16] <bobindy> one more question
[06:16] <Jasey> looks like some one added some repos to my sources list on apt. which is typical. lol.
[06:18] <bobindy> is there a place where all the hardware is listed
[06:18] <bobindy> like the control panel in windows
[06:18] <linuxbomb> bobindy: hwbrowser
[06:18] <bobindy> hwbrowser
[06:18] <bobindy> in system settings
[06:19] <bobindy> ?
[06:19] <linuxbomb> nevermind they must have gotten rid of hwbrowser
[06:19] <bobindy> oh
[06:19] <linuxbomb> kinfocenter
[06:19] <bobindy> where is that
[06:19] <linuxbomb> system
[06:20] <klerfayt> bobindy: open konsole and ryn lshw
[06:20] <klerfayt> *run
[06:21] <bobindy> ok
[06:21] <klerfayt> *no - type in and hit enter
[06:21] <klerfayt> :D
[06:21] <gupta> server-install with normal dapper cd possible?
[06:22] <gupta> by server install I mean the stripped-down install that cuold be done with earlier ubuntu's from the command line
[06:23] <Jucato> no. you need to use the Alternate Install CD
[06:23] <bobindy> yes it is there
[06:23] <bobindy> product: 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controlle
[06:23] <bobindy> thanks
[06:23] <klerfayt> bobindy: some info about your hardware is in "kinfocenter" found in kmenu
[06:25] <bobindy> thanks again
[06:25] <bobindy> yes it is there as well
[06:27] <bobindy> I see samba status there as well
[06:27] <bobindy> can I set up samba from there
[06:27] <klerfayt> !s
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <klerfayt> !samba
[06:27] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:27] <bobindy> yes I know
[06:27] <klerfayt> !hardware
[06:27] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:28] <bobindy> a separate issue
[06:28] <bobindy> but another thing I want to solve
[06:28] <bobindy> I have a dual boot machine
[06:28] <klerfayt> !dualboot
[06:28] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[06:28] <bobindy> and would like to access the windows side
[06:28] <bobindy> dark side
[06:28] <klerfayt> !grub
[06:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:29] <notech> geez, give him a chance to state what his issue is
[06:32] <bobindy> does this look right?configuration: broadcast=yes driver=e100 ip=<IP_ADDRESS> multicast
[06:33] <ineedehelp> ok, back to my installing of the kde enviroment on ubuntu
[06:33] <ineedehelp> ^_^
[06:33] <bobindy> just to be sure what is the procedure when I am trying to access the other computers on my network
[06:36] <klerfayt> bobindy you could also try #ubuntu channel if you can't get answers to your technical questions
[06:37] <bobindy> I might go over there but how do you access your network
[06:38] <klerfayt> no idea
[06:38] <klerfayt> !network
[06:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:38] <klerfayt> !windows
[06:38] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:39] <bobindy> ubotu who was that directed at
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about who was that directed at - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <bobindy> really a simple question
[06:40] <bobindy> but ok thanks for your help
[06:45] <bobindy> well so I guess I'll go
[06:45] <bobindy> thank as least I know my ethernet card is recognized
[06:46] <bobindy> that is a plus
[06:48] <ineedehelp> !microsoft
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microsoft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <klerfayt> !vole
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vole - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <jackrazz> anyone here using kexi with postgresql?
[07:04] <Brydenn33> anyone up
[07:04] <Brydenn33> i need some help not really regarding kubuntu
[07:04] <pip> Hello
[07:04] <Brydenn33> hi pip
[07:04] <pip> how to edit locale
[07:04] <Brydenn33> what?
[07:04] <pip> I want to add support for my native language
[07:05] <pip> Brydenn33: Hi,do you know how to edit locale ?
[07:05] <robotgeek> pip: K-Menu -> System Settings -> Regions and accessibility, maybe?
[07:05] <Brydenn33> i dont knw
[07:06] <pip> robotgeek: ok,let me see
[07:07] <Brydenn33> robotgeek
[07:07] <Brydenn33> are you in the USA?
[07:07] <robotgeek> Brydenn33: why do you ask?
[07:07] <robotgeek> yes, though
[07:07] <Brydenn33> i need some help reporting some cyber criminal activity and dont know how
[07:07] <Brydenn33> didnt really know who to go to hehe
[07:08] <Brydenn33> i'd like to email the school that's UN-knowingly hosting the site
[07:08] <Brydenn33> i got an email from PayPal
[07:08] <robotgeek> Brydenn33: i don't know, call up their ISP maybe?
[07:08] <Brydenn33> but it wasnt from paypal
[07:08] <Brydenn33> how?
[07:08] <Brydenn33> naw dude
[07:08] <Brydenn33> its a FISHING site
[07:08] <Brydenn33> a fake PayPal
[07:08] <pip> restart x
[07:08] <Brydenn33> and its being hosted on an .edu
[07:09] <Brydenn33> it's really gay
[07:09] <Brydenn33> anyway, i guess i'll try doing some research
[07:09] <Brydenn33> bbl guys
[07:18] <seven> are all multiverse packages non-free?
[07:19] <Jucato> seven: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[07:20] <Jucato> scroll down to the bottom about multiverse
[07:20] <seven> thanks
[07:33] <notech> Brydenn33: you give the information to paypal and let them handle it
[07:39] <notech> Brydenn33: If you think you have received a fraudulent email, forward the entire email to spoof AT paypal.com and then delete it from your email account.
[07:50] <logan1> why is there a nvidia packaage for kernel 2.6.17-11 but not matching kernel, All I can find is 2.6.17-10
[07:59] <smoenux> does anyone know of a good Screencast program that will work on top of XGL ?
[07:59] <smoenux> !screencast
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screencast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <renato> what's a screencast?
[08:00] <renato> ...and who gets called back?
[08:00] <renato> sorry, lousy joke
[08:00] <renato> I'm sleepy
[08:04] <smoenux> lol
[08:05] <smoenux> screencasts is when you record what you do on the desktop
[08:05] <cpt|willard> smoenux: you on ati?
[08:05] <smoenux> tutorial and/or demo vids are examples of screencasts
[08:05] <smoenux> nvidia
[08:05] <cpt|willard> why don't you just get the latest nvidia drivers?
[08:06] <smoenux> ???
[08:06] <smoenux> I think you may have misunderstood my earlier question
[08:06] <cpt|willard> yah...
[08:06] <smoenux> :P
[08:06] <cpt|willard> why are you running xgl?
[08:07] <smoenux> because it's nice ^.^
[08:07] <smoenux> and I must say that I enjoy the application switching
[08:07] <smoenux> I find it nice and fast
[08:07] <cpt|willard> Heh..if it didn't run X and Xgl i'd use it still..but i'm using latest nvidia drviers and beryl
[08:08] <smoenux> me too
[08:08] <smoenux> apparently they are working on having aiglx as standard in feisty
[08:09] <smoenux> will automatically install if you're pc supports it
[08:09] <cpt|willard> yah, and binary drivers as standard :-/
[08:09] <smoenux> yeah.... but personally I feel there is no easy way around that
[08:10] <cpt|willard> with nvidia it appears it may happen soonish but ati not much in sight
[08:10] <cpt|willard> an open source solution that is
[08:10] <smoenux> yeah... ati support is crap....
[08:10] <smoenux> even when i had a windows box, with a ati card.... had soooo much problems
[08:11] <smoenux> then I got a Nvidia, and all my problems are solved
[08:11] <cpt|willard> yah nvidia is pretty nice gotta love intel though
[08:11] <smoenux> really ?
[08:12] <smoenux> never had a intel card
[08:12] <cpt|willard> they aren't really that good..but for a laptop it's all you really need :P
[08:12] <smoenux> ah I see
[08:13] <cpt|willard> open drivers and easy setup for beryl
[08:13] <smoenux> I'm a designer and video editor, so, I do need something with a bit more punch... especially for 3d rendering and animation
[08:14] <cpt|willard> ah, makes sense
[08:14] <smoenux> with microsoft acknowledging the threat of linux, and trying to fight back, this might just give Adobe some inspiration to start making programs for Linux ^.^
[08:14] <smoenux> or so I hope :P
[08:15] <cpt|willard> well flash 9 is beta 2 for linux :D
[08:15] <smoenux> ooh
[08:15] <smoenux> I didn't know that
[08:16] <smoenux> time to go check it out !!
[08:16] <cpt|willard> yah :D google penguin.swf one of the devs blogs
[08:18] <smoenux> hehe... downloading the installer now :)
[08:22] <cpt|willard> smoenux: installer? i've just been downloading the beta of the plugin
[08:23] <smoenux> lmao... yeah...   I g2run
[08:32] <robotgeek> by now, err.
[08:33] <Linux_Galore> anyone had problem getting glx working with nvidia in edgy
[08:33] <phillijw> i would like to
[08:33] <Linux_Galore> I read half a dozen howto's and nothing works
[08:33] <robotgeek> phillijw: hmm, paste output somewhere please
[08:34] <Linux_Galore> also some of the howto's seem to be a great way to stuff up your install
[08:35] <Linux_Galore> Ubuntu will now be the first distro that I have never been able to get glx working on "every, even openbsd was easier
[08:36] <Linux_Galore> s/every"ever/
[08:36] <Linux_Galore> s/every/ever/
[08:37] <phillijw> http://pastebin.ca/257401
[08:37] <Linux_Galore> ooh yeah follow the howto, one small problem if you follow them apt goes and swaps all your kernel settings and install stuff that doesn work with each other
[08:37] <phillijw> battery is running out. type fast =D
[08:38] <Linux_Galore> so after a bit of hacking in vim I have got Kubuntu now to the stage it runs nvidia but wont run glxgears because well the official glx package doesnt work
[08:39] <phillijw> dont you jus thate linux?
[08:40] <robotgeek> phillijw: i think there might be a possiblity that your mirrors are outdated. (you are on edgy?)
[08:41] <phillijw> i'm on dapper
[08:42] <robotgeek> phillijw: weird. this is a clean install, right?
[08:42] <phillijw> nearly
[08:42] <robotgeek> phillijw: try installing python-glade2 manually
[08:42] <phillijw> havent really installed anything as far as I know
[08:43] <phillijw> it says that package is not available
[08:43] <pip> why can't my ark extract gz file ?
[08:44] <phillijw> robot, i think i may hav ejust found a problem
[08:44] <phillijw> in my sources.list the only sources that are uncommented are the universe multiverse
[08:44] <robotgeek> phillijw: please highlight my full name,
[08:44] <phillijw> the dapper main restricted ones say "Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify"
[08:45] <phillijw> does that seem like it would be the cluprit?
[08:45] <pip> why my ark can't extract .gz file?
[08:46] <robotgeek> phillijw: http://pastebin.ca/257405 is mine
[08:46] <robotgeek> pip: it should be able to, try it in cli
[08:47] <robotgeek> pip: is it tar.gz?
[08:47] <pip> robotgeek: No,I just downloaded a tar.gz file
[08:47] <robotgeek> pip: tar -zxf foo.tar.gz
[08:47] <pip> yea,it is
[08:47] <pip> why ark can't do that ?
[08:48] <pip> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[08:48] <Schalken> is it possible to connect to multiple proxy servers simultaneously?
[08:49] <pip> robotgeek: bug ?
[08:49] <notech> pip: file foo.tar.gz
[08:49] <pip> MplayerAMRsupport.tar.gz: POSIX tar archive
[08:51] <robotgeek> pip: try gunzip MplayerAMRsupport.tar.gz:
[08:51] <notech> not sure, i'm not on kubuntu and mine gives a different response
[08:51] <pip> gunzip: MplayerAMRsupport.tar.gz: not in gzip format
[08:52] <robotgeek> pip: where did you download this file from? link please
[08:53] <phillijw> ndiswrapper still doesnt show up in the availble packages ugh
[08:54] <notech> did you update it too? when you edit sources.list you need to update it
[08:55] <phillijw> ya i did
[08:56] <pip> robotgeek: it is not fault of the site,when I use redhat ,I can extract it
[08:56] <pip> robotgeek: http://www.fastdump.net/16366
[08:58] <phillijw> bcmwl5a         driver present, hardware present
[08:58] <phillijw> so far so good it seems
[09:00] <pip> robotgeek: can you extract it ?
[09:02] <robotgeek> pip: second
[09:02] <pip> : )
[09:03] <robotgeek> pip: no, there seems to be an issue with the file, it does not open :)
[09:04] <pip> OK,so strange, I can open it yesterday on redhat
[09:04] <robotgeek> pip: tar -xf works, though
[09:05] <pip> haha~~
[09:05] <robotgeek> pip: rename file to MplayerAMRsupport.tar and extract with ark
[09:05] <pip> I see
[09:06] <notech> oh, guess it did say tar archive for him.
[09:06] <pip> robotgeek: do you use mplayer ?
[09:06] <robotgeek> pip: nope, just kaffeine
[09:07] <pip> robotgeek: how to open real format ?
[09:11] <Healot> !win32codecs
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <robotgeek> pip: you need to install w32codecs
[09:11] <robotgeek> !restricted > pip
[09:12] <seven> anyone how can i make keybord shortcuts like send a text to an open window if done that before but i cant find it anymore    the text has to look something like that    Shift+F:a:c:k:i:n:g:Space:a:n:d:
[09:15] <Schalken> when i turn on proxy in kcontrol do i need to restart the interface for it to take effect?
[09:15] <pip> robotgeek: thanks
[09:15] <unix_infidel> just restarting networking should suffice
[09:15] <phillijw> gah! iwlist eth1 scan doesnt want to work
[09:15] <phillijw> when using ndiswrapper. this saddens me
[09:16] <unix_infidel> phillijw: what errors are you getting?
[09:16] <phillijw> none that i know of
[09:16] <phillijw> it just doenst find any networks
[09:16] <unix_infidel> odd.
[09:18] <phillijw> this laptop is useless to me without wireless
[09:19] <unix_infidel> phillijw: you should get errors if its not giving you a wireless itnerface.
[09:19] <unix_infidel> you probably set up ndiswrapper wrong.
[09:19] <phillijw> ndiswrapper gives me eth1
[09:19] <unix_infidel> do dmesg | grep ndiswrapper and put in pastebin.
[09:20] <phillijw> dmesg looks fine
[09:20] <phillijw> says it is loaded and stuff
[09:20] <phillijw> hmm.. werid
[09:20] <phillijw> [17184731.452000]  wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device 00:90:4b:63:61:8f using driver bcmwl5a, 14E4:4324.5.conf
[09:21] <phillijw> it says wlan0 there but ends up coming up as eth1 for some reason
[09:23] <seven> got it its in the kcontrol but only if i start it from the console its not in the system settings ????
[09:24] <edgy> Hi, I just made a fresh installation from kubunt dvd and I noticed that the dvd is not added automatically in /etc/apt/sources.lst and I had to do manually sudo apt-g
[09:24] <edgy> sudo apt-cdrom add
[09:25] <edgy> this is beyond normal joe normal knowledge so is there a better way to do this without refering back to the command line?
[09:25] <Healot> use adept to add the CD-ROM repos
[09:30] <edgy> Healot: what shall I put on the adept repository text box? deb cdrom or what?
[09:31] <Healot> deb cdrom it is
[09:32] <Healot> you should look at Adept manual first... since you're GUI lovey lovey :)
[09:40] <pip> I need gtk devel package,what should i install ,the name of packages please !
[09:41] <pip> libgtk2?
[09:46] <klerfayt> pip: search for libgtk dev
[09:46] <klerfayt> pip: maybe all packages with "libgtk" in it
[09:48] <pip> OK,I see it now
[09:49] <Lynoure> Some time back I went for the new backport version of knetworkmanager, but it did not work for me so I went back to dapper default version. However, now knetworkmanager no longer notices networks appearing or disappearing. Is there something that can be done about this?
[09:54] <pip> which package contains libtoolize ?
[10:00] <klerfayt> pip: maybe libtool?
[10:13] <voker57> hi
[10:13] <voker57> Help! My opera cannot connect!
[10:14] <wizard> voker57: use firefox then
[10:15] <voker57> thanks. But i want Opera :)
[10:15] <voker57> but anyway gotta give it a try...
[10:16] <n3storm> morning
[10:17] <voker57> hi
[10:17] <wizard> voker57: im kidding, i am sure theres an easy fix for it
[10:17] <voker57> i hope
[10:18] <Danker> Hi
[10:19] <Danker> How do i create virtual desktop for one application?
[10:25] <Ace2016> HI all
[10:26] <Ace2016> how do i search for all the files which have "search term here" within them
[10:26] <Ace2016> not the file name but inside them
[10:32] <Ace2016> found it, konqueror can do it with search
[10:36] <trench-> hello everyone
[10:37] <d03boy> all zero of us
[10:37] <trench-> got a fresh kubuntu install...6.10...and i'm missing a few key apps for kde...kcontrol won't load for one
[10:37] <kkrusty> Hi, im getting this when i ./configure a program
[10:37] <kkrusty> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[10:37] <trench-> also looking for the Superuser mode on kde as well
[10:38] <guiden> trench: im not a pro but try adding the "settings" applet on your panel
[10:38] <Synapsi> is there anybody that can give me some installation infomration?
[10:39] <zerak> !tv
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <Synapsi> something like:is that possible to install over a ntfs partition?
[10:39] <zerak> !tv tuner
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv tuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <kkrusty> how can i know whether a package is installed or not?
[10:40] <Synapsi> is this chat only a question chat with "no answers"?
[10:40] <trench-> hehehehe
[10:40] <trench-> guess all the gurus are asleep
[10:40] <defrysk> Synapsi, a chat with volunteers trying to help others
[10:40] <defrysk> if you get no answer, noone here has it
[10:40] <Synapsi> yeah, I supposes this, but....how can I know who are the volonteers to ask to???
[10:41] <Synapsi> [10:43]  <defrysk> if you get no answer, noone here has it
[10:41] <Lynoure> Synapsi: you cannot install on a ntfs, ntfs writing support is still in beta
[10:41] <Synapsi> got it
[10:41] <Synapsi> ehehe...cool to know...
[10:41] <defrysk> yes
[10:41] <Synapsi> is that a beta I can try?
[10:41] <defrysk> and anoy volunteers you wil never get an answer
[10:41] <defrysk> so show repect and patience please
[10:41] <Synapsi> no problem...
[10:41] <Synapsi> i love you
[10:41] <Synapsi> guys
[10:42] <Synapsi> the fact is that I saw many questions and no reply and I wanted to undestand if this was a fake....a iguess it's not
[10:42] <Lynoure> Synapsi: yes, you can try ntfs writing if you wish
[10:42] <dissidentcitizen> hey guys, any idea when the newest katapult is being backported to edgy? I miss typing into Amarok....
[10:42] <kkrusty> can anyone tell me how i can know whether a package is installed or not?
[10:43] <Synapsi> [10:45]  <Lynoure> Synapsi: yes, you can try ntfs writing if you wish
[10:43] <Synapsi> thanks...I'll look tor that
[10:43] <trench-> kkrusty, Adept Manager
[10:43] <Lynoure> !fuse | Synapsi
[10:43] <ubotu> Synapsi: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[10:43] <voicu> !ftp
[10:43] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[10:43] <voicu> !smtp
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <voicu> what?
[10:44] <Lynoure> voicu: what do you want to know about smtp? It's a wide topic
[10:44] <voicu> setting up a simple and secure smtp server
[10:45] <voicu> last time i did that on windows i relayed like a million spam msgs
[10:45] <xsacha> hey anyone here know how bots will report pastebinning from upstream? like you have to type the irc channel? or..
[10:45] <kkrusty> im having problems with Qt- configuring an app gives me: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[10:46] <voicu> btw, can i receive mail on the smtp server or do i need another program? i.e. smtp is just for sending?
[10:48] <spurgeon> hey guys.... > why isn there reiser-support on ubuntu ?
[10:49] <Synapsi> thanks to everybody for soppurt...new frontiers in my mind
[10:49] <Synapsi> c ya all
[10:49] <zerak> anyone who have configured a hybrid tv tuner of the type hvr?
[10:50] <nuku> kkrusty: you probably need to install libqt3-headers
[10:50] <spurgeon> Linux phoenix 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 15:34:39 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:50] <trench-> sounds like a libtool issue
[10:51] <spurgeon> :P
[10:51] <kkrusty> nuku: i have libqt3-headers installed
[10:51] <spurgeon> I like Kubuntu, but i hate Ext3. its much too slow...
[10:51] <xsacha> me too spurgeon, i chose reiser at install instead
[10:51] <voker57> I have problems with accessing Internet from Konsole and Opera!
[10:52] <trench-> between ext3 and reiserfs, i highly doubt the speed difference is significant
[10:52] <voker57> Everything else worx good
[10:52] <spurgeon> but i cant choose reiser :S
[10:52] <xsacha> spurgeon: just make a reiser partition, then choose it at install
[10:53] <spurgeon> trench-: > if you have disk space above 200G available, you will know the difference
[10:53] <trench-> well then...format it to fs of choice before starting install
[10:53] <trench-> easy enough
[10:53] <spurgeon> xsacha: is there standard reisersupport for standard kernel ?
[10:53] <pip> how to open .chm file ?
[10:54] <xsacha> spurgeon: the kernel already has reiser support
[10:54] <trench-> you can use a gparted livecd
[10:55] <xsacha> just make the partition, choose it when you install
[10:55] <spurgeon> i did this trick ( workaround ) on debian but i had to compile a new kernel, because it stalled at boottime because of the lack of reisersupport in the kernel
[10:56] <xsacha> well this one has reiser :)
[10:56] <spurgeon> ok....
[10:56] <nuku> pip: there is kchmviewer and xchm you might want to install one of those...
[10:57] <spurgeon> Well, this is the first time i installed kubuntu and i must say, nice work. ( i started off about 6 years ago with slackware )
[10:58] <spurgeon> i am probably going to install -> / at ext3 and /usr at reiser then
[10:59] <pip> thanks
[11:03] <guiden> how do I get the default theme that kubuntu came with back?
[11:08] <kevin> good morning
[11:09] <kevin> can someone help me with a shutdown problem?
[11:10] <pip> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[11:10] <pip> kernel?
[11:16] <Morrissey> Is BERYL on KDE known to be very slow? Not the 3d effects (Theyr actually fast), but normal web browsing, etc etc?
[11:16] <Morrissey> Does it help upgrading ram? Have 2x256 now
[11:17] <trench-> Morrissey, i would attribute that more to your vidcard capability
[11:22] <pip> there are many kernel hearders available,which one to install ?
[11:23] <msl> Morrissey: more RAM always helps
[11:28] <Schalken> !lamp
[11:28] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[11:28] <Morrissey> trench-, what do you mean? Its a laptop with ATI radeon 9000 in it. all the 3d effects is very sharp :) Benchmark show me that I have over 200 frames/sec
[11:29] <trench-> Morrissey, ati has well known shortcomings as far as driver issues
[11:29] <trench-> when it comes to linux distros
[11:30] <trench-> most beryl users can attest to that
[11:30] <trench-> hopefully yours won't be so...but ati had been behind on driver dev
[11:31] <Morrissey> trench-, I know, but I made it work :)
[11:31] <trench-> i actually took my alienware laptop back for my ati be swapped for a Go7800
[11:31] <Morrissey> really
[11:32] <Morrissey> so youc an switch graphics card?
[11:32] <trench-> yea...it was just too troublesome.
[11:32] <trench-> since it was mainly a linux pc
[11:32] <Morrissey> I just have to be sure :)  http://h20195.www2.hp.com/V2/pdf/c00573300.pdf TO THIS http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.asp?sku=306537 .... is that correct?
[11:32] <trench-> nvidia drivers had been more mature
[11:33] <trench-> yes..that's fine
[11:33] <Morrissey> trench-, I got the latest open source drivers for fglrx, and 3d is really fast
[11:33] <Morrissey> thanks trench- :)
[11:33] <trench-> Morrissey, and that's beryl-svn, right?
[11:33] <trench-> then you're good to go
[11:33] <Morrissey> trench-, nah, beryl out of the beryl-repos
[11:33] <xsacha> "latest open source drivers for fglrx" huh?? lol
[11:33] <trench-> try to give the different beryl startup options a try
[11:33] <kraut> moin
[11:33] <Morrissey> xsacha, yes?
[11:34] <xsacha> fglrx are closed source
[11:34] <Morrissey> trench-, like?
[11:34] <Morrissey> xsacha, nah, you got them for open source as well :) Google em, youll see
[11:34] <trench-> like use-copy, use-cow, etc
[11:35] <Morrissey> trench-, oh, I start it with beryl-xgl
[11:35] <xsacha> Morrissey: you mean radeon open source driver? (not fglrx)
[11:35] <Morrissey> what is cow, and what is copy? :)
[11:35] <trench-> i meant to day, look at your beryl-manager options
[11:35] <Morrissey> xsacha, ya, of course, sorry
[11:35] <trench-> you'll see it there
[11:35] <xsacha> composite overlay window and copy method (non-tfp)
[11:36] <Morrissey> I dont have beryl-manager :) That
[11:36] <trench-> of course you do
[11:36] <Morrissey> I have to use beryl-xgl, and start emerald after that .. settings I change with beryl-settings :)
[11:36] <xsacha> beryl-xgl? you're using Xgl?
[11:36] <Morrissey> xsacha, obiously
[11:36] <trench-> type beryl-manager in console when things are started up
[11:36] <xsacha> so you're using closed source fglrx..
[11:37] <Morrissey> trench-, if I type that X hangs
[11:37] <trench-> weird...
[11:37] <Morrissey> xsacha, my xorg.conf says radeon
[11:37] <xsacha> you're using radeon in Xgl ?!?!
[11:37] <Morrissey> trench-, used about a week to figure all this out :) Its strange
[11:37] <xsacha> what has this world come to
[11:37] <Morrissey> xsacha, I dont have a XGL session I think .. I just log in normally, and start beryl-xgl, and it works
[11:37] <MetaBookfoziS> hy all! please help me my konsole won't start. [Kubuntu edgy on k7]
[11:38] <trench-> Morrissey, have you tried aiglx with your opensource driver?
[11:38] <MetaBookfoziS> it starts and closes fast and shows kcrash window.
[11:38] <Morrissey> trench-, dont know, whats that?
[11:38] <trench-> alternative to XGL
[11:38] <MetaBookfoziS> please help, it's really annoying
[11:38] <xsacha> Morrissey: you shouldnt be using Xgl :S
[11:38] <trench-> seems to work better with opensource radeon
[11:38] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, try opening it with xterm and see if it outprints an error
[11:38] <Morrissey> xsacha, ok :) Do I use xgl? hehe
[11:38] <xsacha> use aiglx
[11:39] <Morrissey> how do I switch to aiglx? Never understood what to do different
[11:39] <MetaBookfoziS> nothing, it only says:KCrash: Application 'konsole' crashing...
[11:39] <xsacha> just start up a normal X session instead of an Xgl session Morrissey
[11:39] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, cat /var/log/syslog and see if it shows an error there
[11:39] <trench-> i got an old laptop with a radeon IGP/aiglx...works nicely for a slow machine
[11:39] <MetaBookfoziS> Morrissey > i have isntalled debugging symbosl, so i can pastebin the error log, if it tells something to you...
[11:39] <MetaBookfoziS> ok
[11:39] <xsacha> do you have Xorg >= 7.1?
[11:39] <spurgeon> hey xsacha : when installing without using graphical installer > using costum partitioning it gives me the option to use reiser :P nice....
[11:39] <xsacha> spurgeon: yes :) of course
[11:40] <Morrissey> xsacha, ecacly what I do, I start a normal X session .. I have xorg>7,1 .. and I type beryl-xgl, and it works 200 frames pr sec
[11:40] <xsacha> spurgeon: the only problem is that particular software used for the GUI does not support reiser
[11:40] <MetaBookfoziS> Morrissey > nothing
[11:40] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, yes, you can paste the debug info on pastebin then :) Lets have alook
[11:40] <Morrissey> xsacha, was that strange? :)
[11:40] <pip> where is the C hearder files for the running kernel ?
[11:41] <trench-> in the meantime, you can install yakuake while you're fixing konsole :)
[11:41] <xsacha> Morrissey: dont use an Xgl session, use a normal X session and enable composite.. then you'll be running with aiglx instead
[11:41] <MetaBookfoziS> Morrissey > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33884/
[11:41] <Morrissey> xsacha, believe me, I have tried EVERYTHING, this is the only way to get beryl on my laptop :) hehe
[11:41] <xsacha> i mean you can stick with Xgl -- if you want -- but it is very buggy for me atleast
[11:41] <Morrissey> xsacha, thats what I do ... i have composite enabled, and I use a normal X session :=
[11:41] <trench-> well apparently you haven't tried aiglx :)
[11:42] <xsacha> Morrissey: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep AIGLX              (last line says what?_
[11:42] <Morrissey> trench-, but my X session isnt XGL either .. so what is it? :)
[11:42] <xsacha> it's just Xorg
[11:42] <Morrissey> (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so
[11:42] <Morrissey> :)
[11:42] <xsacha> ok good you're using aiglx, not xgl
[11:42] <trench-> aha..
[11:42] <xsacha> my guess is you've done the display numbers wrong
[11:42] <Morrissey> to sec MetaBookfoziS
[11:42] <xsacha> Morrissey: echo $DISPLAY
[11:42] <trench-> good then
[11:42] <MetaBookfoziS> okay
[11:43] <Morrissey> xsacha, :0
[11:43] <pip> where is the C hearder files for the running kernel ?
[11:43] <Morrissey> and yes MetaBookfoziS, use yakuake :) Its great
[11:43] <MetaBookfoziS> what is that?
[11:43] <xsacha> Morrissey: for some reason i think you put X on :1 following from what you have to do for Xgl
[11:43] <trench-> same as konsole
[11:43] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, I would either use yakuake (recomended) or do a fonts reconfigure (sometimes fuck fonts up)
[11:44] <xsacha> a common mistake.. in the session it should be started on :0, then normal beryl will work fine and you dont have to use beryl-xgl
[11:44] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, it looks like it gives a font error
[11:44] <MetaBookfoziS> ok i try, but i think i have messed up something with notebook crash (i plugged off the ac adapter without battery:/)
[11:44] <MetaBookfoziS> so dpkg-reconfigre what?
[11:44] <Morrissey> xsacha, ok, but I dont need to change anything? Or should I? I mean, everything works allright :) Just that standard browsing is quite slow and some other things
[11:45] <MetaBookfoziS> fontconfig?
[11:45] <b0ng0> ive just installed new nvidia drivers and for some reason they've changed my keyboard layout from UK to US, how can i change it back?
[11:45] <pip> no one answer me ?
[11:45] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config
[11:45] <trench-> kcontrol...regional settings...keyboard layout
[11:45] <pip> My adpet told me I have installed it
[11:45] <xsacha> Morrissey: yeah you have everything set up right.. you're on aiglx with composite and radeon but your display number in session is wrong -- this is why you have to use beryl-xgl at the moment (beryl-xgl defaults to display :1 instead of your default of :0)
[11:46] <Morrissey> xsacha, oh, ok .. but Im ok with that :) Thanks
[11:46] <xsacha> ok
[11:46] <trench-> probably the reason why beryl-manager is not working
[11:46] <Morrissey> xsacha, you have no idea how many hours I spent on getting it working :9
[11:47] <xsacha> Morrissey: nup, it's not that hard :P
[11:47] <Morrissey> trench-, yeah, but do I need beryl-manager? Im fine with using beryl.settings
[11:47] <trench-> Morrissey, if anyone will know beryl here, that'll be xsacha :)
[11:47] <xsacha> dont need it, i dont use beryl-manager
[11:47] <MetaBookfoziS> i have reconfigured fontconfig and fonctonfig-config, but it gives error, i'm pasting, a moment
[11:47] <Morrissey> xsacha, hehe, yeah, but theres many bad howtos out there, ecspeially for my hardware
[11:47] <Morrissey> xsacha, trench-: sweet :)
[11:48] <MetaBookfoziS> hmm, i think i need xrestart for font relaoding... moment
[11:48] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, I would really do a "sudo apt-get install yakuake && yakuake" and press f12 :) Check it out
[11:48] <xsacha> yeah many howtos are outdated because you had to use Xgl just recently and a lot of things have changed so they'll give bad info
[11:48] <Morrissey> xsacha, wich hardware are you on?
[11:48] <b0ng0> i cant add any keyboard layouts
[11:49] <xsacha> radeon 9600
[11:49] <Morrissey> xsacha, exacly
[11:49] <Morrissey> xsacha, ok, I have a 9000, is there a huge difference? Cant wait to get my RAM though :)
[11:49] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, I would really do a "sudo apt-get install yakuake && yakuake" and press f12 :) Check it out
[11:49] <xsacha> not much
[11:49] <MetaBookfoziS> :(
[11:50] <MetaBookfoziS> yes, i try but i don'T think this problem only in konsole, i think i have some damaged files caused by the crashes
[11:50] <Morrissey> xsacha, do you use that copy/cat or something thingy? And does it improve perfomance?
[11:50] <xsacha> my card doesnt have 2d acceleration because it's  9600 :( and that pretty much evens it out
[11:50] <MetaBookfoziS> so i want to repair it, before i have other crashing apps
[11:50] <trench-> use-copy, and yes, it's helpful
[11:50] <MetaBookfoziS> and in otherways, krusader uses konsole, and it isn't starts without konsole.
[11:50] <xsacha> copy/cat? oh.. use-copy -- yeah i have to use that to get water effects :P
[11:51] <MetaBookfoziS> isn't start == kcrash ...
[11:51] <Morrissey> trench-, ok, thanks :)
[11:51] <MetaBookfoziS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33885/
[11:51] <xsacha> beryl-xgl --use-copy
[11:51] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, have never seen that error before: any of you guys make any sence of this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33884/ ... looks like a font error
[11:51] <MetaBookfoziS> i have this after fontconfig reconfig, it's shorter than the before
[11:51] <Morrissey> xsacha, ok, brb! ill give it a go
[11:52] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, I have to restart, brb
[11:52] <MetaBookfoziS> okay
[11:52] <xsacha> restart? :S
[11:52] <MetaBookfoziS> xrestart, imo
[11:52] <phanatik> guten morgen!!!
[11:52] <trench-> hehehe
[11:52] <`Alex`> so ... may i ask a question ? :D
[11:52] <MetaBookfoziS> gut, besser , gosser
[11:52] <trench-> windows flashbackl?
[11:53] <xsacha> ohhh morrissey isnt using svn, i just scrolled back and saw lol
[11:53] <trench-> flashback*
[11:53] <trench-> hahahaha
[11:53] <trench-> oh-oh
[11:53] <MetaBookfoziS> hmm, he is restarted completely:D
[11:53] <xsacha> LOL
[11:54] <trench-> i've only rebooted my pc twice since install...both for kernel updates
[11:54] <xsacha> i once managed to kill kernel.. sak wouldnt work so i needed hard reboot
[11:55] <xsacha> and another time i got frustrated and was just hoping that a restart would fix my problem, of course it didnt -- but in the time waiting for the reboot i figured it out
[11:55] <trench-> hehehe
[11:55] <`Alex`> so ... could you guys help me out a bit ? :D
[11:56] <MetaBookfoziS> xsacha > :D
[11:57] <`Alex`> MetaBookFoziS
[11:58] <`Alex`> cnan you answer a question for me pls ?
[11:58] <`Alex`> :D
[11:58] <MetaBookfoziS> if you didn't ask, i can't.
[11:58] <MetaBookfoziS> :) so don 't ask about you may ask... askit:D
[11:59] <MetaBookfoziS> if we can, we helps you...
[11:59] <trench-> xsacha, we got an ETA for the svn yet? :)
[11:59] <MetaBookfoziS> what is the main packages?
[11:59] <MetaBookfoziS> or kubuntu-desktop ?
[11:59] <`Alex`> oki ... well the problem is ... i boot the kubuntu CD . i choose install or run kubuntu ... and iti gives me a black screen with an error like hdb: timeout and something about dma and after that hdb: drive not ready for command
[11:59] <MetaBookfoziS> hopp sorry
[12:00] <trench-> drive could be failing
[12:00] <MetaBookfoziS> hmm, try gogling for it, i don't think you are alone with this problem
[12:00] <MetaBookfoziS> but i never saw that.
[12:00] <MetaBookfoziS> so i can't help on you.
[12:00] <`Alex`> any other linux release works
[12:00] <`Alex`> :/
[12:00] <trench-> could be a bad burn then
[12:00] <trench-> if as you said, other distros work with it
[12:00] <`Alex`> could it be the iso image ?
[12:01] <trench-> not the image, the way it's burned
[12:01] <xsacha> trench-: eta for it to go up?
[12:01] <`Alex`> oki
[12:01] <trench-> crappy media, etc
[12:01] <trench-> yes xsacha :)
[12:01] <`Alex`> thx
[12:01] <`Alex`> i'll burn it again
[12:01] <xsacha> well ixce said he was getting hammered and wanted svn mirrors -- do we have any svn mirrors lined up? :)
[12:01] <trench-> 'Alex', try to burn it slower
[12:01] <trench-> ahhh...
[12:01] <`Alex`> it was 16x
[12:02] <`Alex`> even slower v?
[12:02] <trench-> try slower
[12:02] <trench-> 8x
[12:02] <`Alex`> i had one at 32
[12:02] <`Alex`> i'l try another disk
[12:02] <trench-> coz the faster you burn, if the media is no good, you get a bad burn
[12:02] <`Alex`> bye
[12:02] <`Alex`> thx
[12:02] <`Alex`> i'll be back if it keeps showing it
[12:02] <`Alex`> :D
[12:02] <heinkel_111> on Dapper, there was a lot of status messages displayed at system start (under the kubuntu logo). Can that be enabled on Edgy?
[12:02] <trench-> goodluck
[12:03] <`Alex`> thx
[12:03] <xsacha> all my media is verbatim :)
[12:04] <trench-> those 100 packs always give troubles
[12:04] <trench-> sure it's a bargain
[12:04] <trench-> i won't trust sensitive data on them
[12:07] <Morrissey> xsacha, hi again :) I have enabled --use-cow, but no difference to anything though ... have you any recomendations concerning optimizing my performance? Som tags I should use with beryl-xgl or anything?
[12:08] <xsacha> oh btw Morrissey i just scrolled up after you left and saw you arent using the svn version 0.1.3
[12:08] <xsacha> you need 0.1.3 for --use-copy :S
[12:08] <Morrissey> xsacha, oh :) What does --use-copy do actually+
[12:08] <xsacha> it doesnt use texture from pixmap, so you dont need aiglx, Xgl or anything like that
[12:08] <heinkel_111> on Dapper, there was a lot of status messages displayed at system start (under the kubuntu logo). Can that be enabled on Edgy?
[12:09] <Morrissey> xsacha, you said that I use 0.1.3, and i need 0.1.3 for --use-copy :)
[12:09] <Morrissey> xsacha, will that improve perfomance?
[12:09] <trench-> 0.1.3 - svn
[12:10] <Morrissey> so I should get the non-svn? How would I do that :) =
[12:12] <Morrissey> wops, sory xsacha something went wrong here :) fell out :P But I should upgrade my beryl-xgl thing?
[12:13] <cox377> i'm havint this problem, i added a new hdd to my system last night and now just when loading live cd it throws up loads of errors, remove the hdd and the problems goes. does anyone know why this would be?
[12:13] <Schalken> I've just installed LAMP (well, the L was already installed), is apache set to start when the system boots by default?
[12:13] <trench-> perhaps jumper issues?
[12:14] <Morrissey> cox377, wich errors?
[12:14] <xsacha> Morrissey: if you want use-copy, you need 0.1.3
[12:14] <cox377> trench-: i've tried all the jumper settings
[12:14] <xsacha> it's not that much of a performance boost, i wouldnt worry about it, just some cool effects in 0.1.3 you're missing out on :)
[12:14] <cox377> Morrissey: it gives errors every step of the way of boot, the current errors are
[12:14] <cox377> squashhfs error
[12:14] <MenZa> Schalken: I'd assume you had to set /whatever/the/dir/is/lampp START to run on startup
[12:14] <Morrissey> xsacha, oh :P Ive seen the wather marks on youtube, looks like a system deprover :P
[12:14] <Morrissey> (if thats a word)
[12:15] <trench-> cox377, there's a slim chance it can be a bad hdd...have you confirmed it works?
[12:15] <Schalken> MenZa: i hadn't set anything, just installed the packages.
[12:15] <MenZa> oh
[12:15] <MenZa> Ah dunno.
[12:15] <Morrissey> isnt lamp in /etc/init.d/ ??
[12:15] <xsacha> Morrissey: deprover?
[12:15] <cox377> trench-: yup checked it, i mean it gives errors all the way through the boot
[12:15] <Schalken> MenZa: "apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server" that is
[12:15] <MenZa> I know xampp isn't
[12:15] <Morrissey> xsacha, opposite of improve :P hehe
[12:16] <xsacha> ah no, the effects work great :)
[12:16] <Schalken> Morrissey: i will have a look in init.d
[12:16] <xsacha> the big 3 for eating FPS are still: blur, water and trailfocus here
[12:16] <Morrissey> xsacha, oh, maybe I should upgrade .. how would I do that? I mean whats your repos for that
[12:16] <xsacha> beryl-svn repository...
[12:16] <Morrissey> xsacha, water's off, trailfocus is off .. blur? wheres that?
[12:17] <Schalken> Morrissey: there is a file called "apache2" in /etc/init.d, does that mean it will start on boot?
[12:17] <xsacha> blur effects
[12:17] <Morrissey> and blur is of :) nice
[12:17] <Morrissey> Schalken, not nesicarely, it just means its a system deamon ... you could make it bootable in system settings -> Advanced -> System Services I think
[12:18] <Morrissey> xsacha, ok, Ill look into those repos, thanks
[12:18] <Schalken> Morrissey: there isn't an 'advanced' section in kcontrol
[12:19] <Morrissey> Schalken, not kcontrol ... go to you kde-menu and press system settings
[12:19] <Morrissey> there should be an advance tab at the top
[12:19] <xsacha> http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre2/48545-2.png <-- intel pci express :P
[12:19] <Schalken> Morrissey: errrr i have very custom KMenu
[12:20] <Morrissey> Schalken, kbfx :P Ok, two sec
[12:20] <Morrissey> Schalken, in kcontrol --> Sysmte Administration -> system Services
[12:20] <Morrissey> xsacha, whats the beryl-svn repo? cant find it
[12:21] <xsacha> tuxfamily one
[12:21] <Schalken> Morrissey: cool, it has 'yes' for 'start at boot' :D :D :D
[12:21] <Morrissey> Schalken, then you good to go :)
[12:21] <Morrissey> xsacha, deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn
[12:21] <Morrissey> deb-src http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn
[12:21] <Morrissey> thanks xsacha
[12:21] <cntb> \o guys  looking for openoffice channel . here on freenode or other network ? appreciate useful info
[12:22] <xsacha> Morrissey: there's a key you need too
[12:22] <Schalken> Morrissey: my webdev system is set up, cheers
[12:22] <cntb>  #kubuntu below 300 ppl ? go #kubuntu do !
[12:22] <Morrissey> Schalken, happy serving :)
[12:23] <Morrissey> xsacha, oh, wheres that key?
[12:23] <Morrissey> nm, I had it allready
[12:23] <xsacha> k
[12:24] <Morrissey> its on its way down .. so I should restart X, use beryl-xgl --use-copy then :)
[12:24] <meta> how can i reinstall kde on kubuntu?
[12:25] <trench-> adept manager...request reinstall installed kde components
[12:25] <meta> the apt-get install --reinstall kdebase is says kdebase-dev broken because some konsole version isn't able to install
[12:26] <SortOfThing> try to remove konsole et reinstall it
[12:26] <pascalFR> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[12:27] <meta> nope...
[12:27] <Morrissey> xsacha, got a bunch load of errors :( beryl-xgl: Couldn't load plugin 'resize'
[12:27] <Morrissey> beryl-xgl: '/usr/lib/beryl/libplace.so' plugin version does not match beryl version
[12:28] <Morrissey> ++++++ many more, and beryl-xgl didnt start :(
[12:28] <xsacha> Morrissey: you just updated beryl-core?
[12:28] <xsacha> Morrissey: need to update all packages
[12:28] <Morrissey> xsacha, i just did a sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:28] <Schalken> actually, by the default LAMP install, can my computer act as a webserver to other computers on the LAN?
[12:28] <xsacha> Morrissey: did you remove old deb package for 0.1.1? then sudo apt-get update ?
[12:29] <Morrissey> xsacha, no, how would I?
[12:29] <xsacha> then sudo apt-get install beryl
[12:29] <Morrissey> in /var/cache?
[12:29] <xsacha> it's in the same sources.list that you just put beryl-svn in
[12:29] <Morrissey> ok
[12:29] <Morrissey> Ill give it a go :)
[12:29] <Morrissey> two sec
[12:33] <Morrissey> xsacha, it worked :) thanks .. wich new effects should I try then? :P
[12:34] <xsacha> :) burn, beam
[12:34] <xsacha> 3d
[12:34] <xsacha> group, ..
[12:34] <Morrissey> what does that 3d thing do? I enabled it :P
[12:35] <xsacha> rotate your cube and look side on at the windows
[12:35] <Morrissey> um. whats the difference? :)
[12:35] <xsacha> it comes *off* the cube
[12:36] <meta__> hey Morrissey
[12:36] <meta__> yakuake have the same error
[12:36] <Morrissey> xsacha, oh .. hehe! Sweet :P
[12:36] <meta__> that konsole have
[12:36] <Morrissey> meta__, really .. that actually makes sence since yakukae uses many of the konsole features ..
[12:36] <Morrissey> hm
[12:36] <Morrissey> can you give me your pastebin again?
[12:37] <Morrissey> xsacha, burn, beam? Wheres that? :P
[12:37] <meta__> i have renamed my .kde and i'm after some xrestarts, kdebase reinstalls
[12:37] <meta__> so not, but i make a new
[12:37] <xsacha> Morrissey: Animation
[12:37] <Morrissey> meta__, I would actually try to make a new user and log in with him and check if konsole works .. then we know its your personal settings, not global
[12:38] <Morrissey> xsacha, haha! Burn was way funny
[12:38] <meta__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33890/
[12:38] <xsacha> Morrissey: try particle size ~4.0 and # of particles: ~4000 :P
[12:38] <xsacha> and turn on smoke
[12:38] <meta__> hm ok, but the renamoing of .kde won'T helped...
[12:38] <meta__> and if i rename /home/meta ?:)
[12:39] <meta__> ok... go try make a new user
[12:39] <Morrissey> xsacha, omg, that actually is quite sweet :P I really wish I had just a little better laptop right about now :)
[12:40] <xsacha> Morrissey: yeah it probably doesnt look so nice on a laptop :P
[12:40] <Morrissey> xsacha, it doesnt :P but it still fun to play around with
[12:40] <mkaster> hey i need some help
[12:41] <mkaster> i'm a lil new to linux and i don't know how to install the soundcard
[12:42] <mkaster> it says that the mixer is not found
[12:42] <crimsun> mkaster: what sound card is it?
[12:42] <mkaster> do u know how to check it?
[12:42] <Morrissey> mkaster, lspci
[12:43] <mkaster> that didnt tell me about my sound card
[12:43] <mkaster> it listed the things that r installed and working
[12:44] <Morrissey> mkaster, no, it lists your PCI bus ... check again
[12:44] <mkaster> it is builtin to the mobo
[12:44] <balfasz> hi, Morrissey i'm meta from a new user
[12:44] <balfasz> but konsole won't want to start:/
[12:45] <Morrissey> balfasz, that makes it a bit more tricky
[12:45] <balfasz> :(
[12:45] <Morrissey> balfasz, let me check your errors again
[12:45] <hirs> hi
[12:45] <balfasz> okay
[12:46] <crimsun> mkaster: how old is the computer?
[12:46] <mkaster> hold on let me get to this specific one and i can tell u the model
[12:46] <hirs> has any one tryed to apt-build firefox?
[12:46] <Morrissey> balfasz, you got me stuck ... it still looks like a font error, did you say that other programs are crashing as well?
[12:47] <balfasz> krusader want's to use konsole so that crashes like yakuake
[12:47] <Morrissey> xsacha, whats the big difference between compiz/beryl actually?
[12:47] <Morrissey> balfasz, ok, try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall konsole" maybe (though I doubt it will help)
[12:49] <balfasz> i tryed that...
[12:49] <balfasz> won't helped
[12:49] <Morrissey> balfasz, I actually lost your pastebin again, too much restarting X over here :) Remember the url?
[12:49] <mkaster> it is a compaq deskpro sff with pentium 3 (600 mhz)  and i can't seem to find the model number
[12:50] <Morrissey> mkaster, lspci | grep Multimedia
[12:50] <Morrissey> does that give you anything?
[12:51] <Morrissey> mkaster, or lspci | grep Sound
[12:51] <mkaster> its not doing anything
[12:52] <crimsun> grep Audio
[12:52] <balfasz> Morrissey:
[12:52] <balfasz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33891/
[12:52] <balfasz> the problem is not about libc?
[12:53] <Morrissey> one sec balfasz
[12:53] <balfasz> okay
[12:56] <Morrissey> wich version of kde and konsole do you have balfasz? have you been playing with "kde4"??
[12:56] <mati> where is wine config file?
[12:56] <mkaster> ill brb i can find out the info when i log into windows
[12:57] <Schalken> it seems every torrent i have in KTorrent reports no peers, what could be wrong?
[12:57] <Morrissey> balfasz, wait
[12:57] <trench-> Schalken, ports forwarded?
[12:57] <Schalken> trench-: forwarded where?
[12:57] <trench-> or opened?
[12:57] <trench-> if youre using a router
[12:57] <Morrissey> balfasz, ok, I traced your bug to http://lists.kde.org/?l=konsole-devel&m=114010128401313&w=2 ... so Its a known bug allright, Ill give you a text if I find anything more
[12:57] <trench-> or behind a firewall
[12:58] <balfasz> i'm on the same domain
[12:58] <trench-> ktorrent uses a specific peer port
[12:58] <cafenet69> edgddddgg
[12:58] <Schalken> trench-: does edgy have a firewall?
[12:58] <balfasz> i'm reading who have this and who have soludion
[12:58] <mati> ppls where i can find wine config file? :/
[12:58] <trench-> iptables
[12:59] <Schalken> trench-: how do i see if its open?
[12:59] <trench-> by default it will be open
[12:59] <trench-> so you're not using a router?
[12:59] <Schalken> trench-: no, directed to external adsl modem
[12:59] <Morrissey> xsacha, does animation "deprove" the system much as well? :)
[01:00] <Schalken> mati_pl: ~/.wine/
[01:00] <xsacha> Morrissey: not here..
[01:00] <trench-> does your adsl modem have firewall/nat?
[01:00] <trench-> some of them do, that's why i asked
[01:00] <xsacha> say lower performance instead :P
[01:01] <Schalken> trench-: i doubt it, becuase it worked on suse and i hadnt touched my modem since.
[01:01] <trench-> cool then
[01:01] <Morrissey> xsacha, hehe, ok .. I
[01:01] <trench-> try a known torrent with a lot of peers
[01:01] <trench-> better yet, try azureus
[01:01] <Schalken> trench-: do you have one?
[01:01] <Schalken> azureus?
[01:01] <trench-> yes
[01:02] <trench-> a much better torrent client
[01:02] <trench-> imo
[01:02] <defrysk> ktorrent is great
[01:02] <mati_pl> Schalken which file is it i have there: system.reg userdef.reg user.reg //im new to linux
[01:02] <trench-> azureus just had been friendly with trackers :)
[01:03] <cntb> xsane preview screen disappears after 2 seconds on canon lide60 scanner . help
[01:03] <defrysk> latest ktorrent from here :  http://buntudot.org/people/~jdong/ktorrent/
[01:03] <Schalken> mati_pl: i think wine config is stored somewhere in its registry. if you want to do configuration use winecfg
[01:03] <mati_pl> i wanted add
[01:03] <mati_pl> "ClientSideAntiAliasWithRender" = "N"
[01:03] <mati_pl> "ClientSideAntiAliasWithCore" = "N"
[01:04] <mati_pl> to use one game..
[01:04] <trench-> or look for the kde frontend of wine, "kwine"
[01:04] <cntb> xsane preview screen disappears after 2 seconds on canon lide60 scanner . help
[01:05] <trench-> wrong window >.<
[01:05] <Schalken> mati_pl: errrr thats probably under the \\wine\\drivers part of the registry
[01:06] <cntb> found it . was really simple sorry to bother
[01:06] <trench-> oh...i was on the right window...hahaha
[01:06] <Schalken> trench-: do you know a torrent that you know has peers?
[01:06] <mati_pl> ok i got it :) thx very much :)
[01:07] <trench-> Schalken, grab like the latest episode of Heroes or Prison Break from torrentspy
[01:07] <trench-> those have tons of peers
[01:07] <Schalken> trench-: i dont know what that is but okay
[01:07] <_4strO> yop yop
[01:07] <trench-> tv show
[01:07] <trench-> www.torrentspy.com
[01:07] <trench-> search it there
[01:08] <trench-> pretty cool tv series if i may say so :)
[01:08] <Schalken> trench-: which one is cool?
[01:08] <trench-> prison break
[01:08] <MenZa> !warez
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <trench-> now on it's second season
[01:08] <defrysk> this is not a torrents chat afaIk
[01:09] <trench-> (my bad)
[01:09] <mkaster> i'm back with info on my audio card
[01:09] <Schalken> trench-: ah, yes we had that in aus, never got into it tho
[01:09] <defrysk> so please take this elsewhere or talk privatly
[01:09] <mkaster> it is an ESS Audiodrive, can someone help me install it
[01:09] <MenZa> !offtopic
[01:09] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:09] <mkaster> maybe we can use the windows driver? ess.sys?
[01:09] <MenZa> And anyway, keep warez away
[01:10] <Morrissey> is tv torrents warez? Havent read about that yet
[01:10] <trench-> mkaster, there are ess drivers for linux...i use an alegro once before
[01:10] <ce_ndut> hai
[01:10] <MistaED2> mkaster: the issue is it's an ISA based sound chip, which needs manual module option probing
[01:10] <Schalken> trench-: the heroes torrent has plenty, must be a bad tracker i was using
[01:10] <defrysk> Morrissey, its off topic
[01:10] <trench-> they're not warez...but anyway...
[01:10] <trench-> just off topic
[01:10] <mkaster> oh so can you help me do that?
[01:11] <Morrissey> it wasnt a related question :) Just wondered (Wich btw also was off topic) :P
[01:11] <MistaED2> mkaster: i have a laptop which has an ESS, not sure if it's the exact same as yours "es1688"
[01:11] <trench-> mkaster, that was on a different distro before...not kubuntu
[01:11] <Schalken> trench-: actually torrentspy has some good torrents, thansk for that
[01:12] <trench-> shhh with the warez talk :P
[01:12] <balfasz> Morrissey: i'm rebooting now brb
[01:12] <mkaster> i have a ESS AudioDrive according to windows
[01:12] <Schalken> trench-: its not like thats all they have on there...
[01:12] <Schalken> or is it.
[01:12] <MistaED2> mkaster: you're lucky, i've got the line which i put in my /etc/modules from tomboy notes: snd-es1688 options snd-es1688 irq=5 dma1=1 dma2=3 fm_port=0x388 mpu_port=0x330
[01:12] <trench-> channel rules we must respect...that's all
[01:13] <MistaED2> but it is probably got different values, so try to check them in windows if you can
[01:13] <Schalken> right.
[01:13] <mkaster> but how do i use that info, i'm kinda new that's why i'm using an older computer for learning linux
[01:14] <MistaED2> mkaster: afaik, the ESS audiodrive driver was a dos driver for win9x, check the autoexec.bat for values perhaps
[01:14] <conor> hi, just wondering how to install nvidia drivers
[01:14] <mkaster> what is afaik
[01:14] <xsacha> as far as i know
[01:14] <conor> as far as i know
[01:14] <conor> :o
[01:14] <`Alex`> :|
[01:15] <`Alex`> it seems i am back
[01:15] <conor> \o|
[01:15] <conor> |o|
[01:15] <defrysk> !nvidia | conor
[01:15] <ubotu> conor: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:15] <conor> ty
[01:15] <MistaED2> mkaster: sorry "as far as i know", ok could you please go into the driver properties in windows and get any info you can on this sound card? like the model number, any dma/irq values, etc.
[01:15] <conor> im getting this from console
[01:15] <conor> conor@conor-desktop:~$ sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-7184-pkg1.run
[01:15] <conor> sh: Can't open NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-7184-pkg1.run
[01:16] <trench-> have to be in the dir where the file is
[01:16] <mkaster> dammit let me logon to irc using my other computer, hold on
[01:16] <defrysk> conor, read the link privded by ubotu
[01:16] <defrysk> !language | mkaster
[01:16] <ubotu> mkaster: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:16] <MistaED2> mkaster: hang on
[01:16] <mkaster> i'm staying here
[01:16] <`Alex`> i managed to install kubuntu .......... but i have a stupid problem :D
[01:17] <xsacha> spci | grep Audio ?
[01:17] <xsacha> l
[01:17] <MistaED2> there might be a way to force auto detecting it, i remember redhat had a tool for old ISA sound chipsets which have no plug and play
[01:17] <`Alex`> i made the user wen i installed it .......... but now i don't have root access
[01:18] <TheGateKeeper> use sudo Alex
[01:18] <trench-> the user password is the root password...then you just sudo
[01:18] <defrysk> !sudo | `Alex`
[01:18] <ubotu> `Alex`: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:18] <`Alex`> yes
[01:18] <`Alex`> but i try to use the package manager
[01:19] <`Alex`> and requires root access ........ the user password does not work
[01:19] <`Alex`> :/
[01:19] <defrysk> `Alex`, read ubotus message and link
[01:19] <MetaBookfoziS> oaaa oaaa:(
[01:19] <MetaBookfoziS> konsole won't start:(
[01:19] <MetaBookfoziS> Morrissey > how can i downgrade libc?
[01:19] <MetaBookfoziS> i think possible thatis a problem..
[01:20] <MistaED2> mkaster: some info: http://www.oliyiptong.com/blog/2006/07/15/old-hardware-help-in-ubuntu/
[01:20] <conor> what repostories do i change for the nvidia drivers?
[01:21] <defrysk> !info nvidia-glx
[01:21] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8776+<IP_ADDRESS>-1 (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB
[01:21] <MetaBookfoziS> 4mb to 12mb:)
[01:22] <defrysk> conor, you need restricted in your repo for nvidia-glx
[01:23] <mkaster> ok im here on my other computer
[01:24] <conor> defrysk: thats all ?
[01:24] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, hi ... first, you should get an older package on the web
[01:24] <mkaster> im logging into windows now
[01:24] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, then you should "sudo apt-get remove libc" and "sudo dpkg -i <older package>.deb"
[01:25] <eft> Hi. on 6.10 how can I stop resolv.conf from being overwritten? Commenting out the make_resolv_conf() function in dhclient-script and adding prepend domain-name-servers <IP_ADDRESS>; dhclient.conf both don't work.
[01:25] <MetaBookfoziS> how can i get what libc is i needed
[01:25] <MetaBookfoziS> is there a million libc package
[01:25] <defrysk> conor, after sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx , do sudo nvidia-xconfig
[01:25] <defrysk> then restart X conor
[01:26] <defrysk> thats all
[01:26] <mkaster> it shows up in device manager as "es1869 plug and play audiodrive (wdm)"
[01:26] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, im sorry, I dont know
[01:26] <conor> defrysk:  thanks for your help
[01:26] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, have you tried --reinstall libc as well?
[01:26] <fdoving> eft: what if you remove the 'domain-name' and 'domain-name-servers' from the 'request' line, in dhclient.conf ?
[01:26] <defrysk> conor, if you have an older card get nvidia-glx-legacy
[01:27] <conor> 7600gt :D
[01:27] <defrysk> ok
[01:27] <MetaBookfoziS> !info libc
[01:27] <mkaster> did my friend go away?
[01:27] <ubotu> Package libc does not exist in any distro I know
[01:27] <MistaED2> mkaster: excellent, the driver we need to use in linux is snd-es18xx (however sometimes windows gives out wrong info and it really is an snd-es16xx)
[01:27] <MetaBookfoziS> ^
[01:27] <eft> fdoving: thanks, gonna try
[01:27] <MetaBookfoziS> Morrissey >
[01:27] <MetaBookfoziS> ^
[01:27] <mkaster> ok do u want me to go back into linux?
[01:28] <MistaED2> mkaster: one sec, we need some dma/irq numbers, can you go into the properties of the driver under windows and just look around the tabs for some of this info?
[01:29] <georgeb> eft: you can try to modify /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf; remove domain-name-servers from request and require sections, I not sure if this is enough, though
[01:29] <mkaster> im writing them down now
[01:29] <fdoving> eft: also, 'supersede' is often better than prepend for dmina-name-servers.
[01:29] <mkaster> the i/o ranges too?
[01:29] <eft> kk, will do supersede as well :)
[01:30] <MistaED2> mkaster: all i needed for this laptop was irq, dma1, dma2, fm_port & mpu_port (the two on the end i don't think really matter unless you want midi playback)
[01:30] <georgeb> fdoving, eft: what do you mean by supersede ?
[01:31] <mkaster> what is fm and mpu port?
[01:31] <Momal> Can someone tell me how to allow mysql 4.1 (linux install ubuntu) to accept external connections | I asked in #mysql but someone might know here as well
[01:31] <eft> georgeb, its another line in dhclient.conf that is commented out by default
[01:31] <georgeb> fdoving, eft: aha, got it.. in dhclient.conf
[01:31] <conor> dunno if its still a driver problem but when i drag my windows they leave a trail behind them
[01:31] <mkaster> is it okay to paste the data in here or is it against channel rules?
[01:31] <MistaED2> mkaster: not 100% sure on fm but mpu is "mpu401" for midi file playback
[01:32] <MistaED2> !pastebin
[01:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:32] <MistaED2> mkaster: try putting it on pastebin
[01:32] <conor> http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6053/snapshot1uy1.png
[01:32] <conor> thats a bit of it
[01:33] <mkaster> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33899/
[01:33] <Morrissey> xsacha, what is FSP?
[01:34] <Fiya_Break> anyone have problems with intenet on kubuntu, whree when seemingly only loading websites, dns will just stop working altogether
[01:34] <xsacha> Morrissey: Focus Steal Protection
[01:34] <Fiya_Break> no matter what your dns servers are set to
[01:34] <Fiya_Break> i dont lose any active connections, so i know the nets not going out, and it doesnt happen in windows
[01:34] <Fiya_Break> i can access the net with my laptop wihle the desktop with kubuntu just stops resolving
[01:34] <Fiya_Break> this happens consistantly
[01:34] <MistaED2> mkaster: cool, we're ready to get linux working with the sound chip
[01:34] <conor> anyone ?
[01:35] <AlexC> pip: #wooooooooooooo
[01:35] <mkaster> MistaED2: so start up linux?
[01:36] <MistaED2> mkaster: yep
[01:36] <MetaBookfoziS> so no idea why my konversation don't want to start?
[01:37] <conor> ok this might be a stupid question
[01:37] <mkaster> MistaED2: im gonna want midi playback just in case so will that be any trouble to add on to help me?
[01:37] <MetaBookfoziS> this might be a 4hour old question
[01:37] <conor> but can someon take a screenie of all there networks settings
[01:37] <MetaBookfoziS> and not konversation, konsole
[01:37] <conor> i deleted 2 things that had ipv6 in them
[01:38] <MistaED2> mkaster: no problem at all actually
[01:38] <mkaster> cool
[01:39] <conor> :_( i hate slow internet
[01:39] <mkaster> MistaED2: j/w where did u learn linux? I'm looking to learn it to put it on my resume since i'm already an expert at windows OS
[01:40] <mkaster> MistaED2: ok it started up
[01:41] <eft> fdoving, georgeb: Didn't work. Thanks for the suggestions though :) Might uninstalling dhcp be ab option? I want static anyway.
[01:41] <MistaED2> mkaster: k, here is the pastebin i've typed up with some instructions: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33901/