[02:42] <Ashen> sideh: I think I use it... but it might be some other mozilla plugin... I think its vlc tho
[02:43] <thoreauputic> sideh: it seems to work very well
[02:43] <Ashen> sideh: tho... I cant be much help :p it worked from the repos for me....
[02:43] <bob2> Gus__: all you need to set to anonymously share files is to set the workgroup
[02:44] <trygvebw> Hi, does anybody know of a image morphing software for Linux? (apart from xmrm) :)
[02:44] <locomorto> gus__: do you have samba setup?
[02:44] <haris> Seveas: I don't think that's it (just triple-checked it), since this came as a result of someone playing around with the network details
[02:44] <sideh> Ashen: which version you using? (of vlc plugin)
[02:44] <Gus__> that's where it goes wrong: in the "general" tab of system -> administration -> networking, i only have hostname and domain name, not workgroup
[02:44] <Gus__> locomorto, what do you mean ?
[02:44] <locomorto> trgvebw: gimp?
[02:44] <Ashen> sideh: 1 sec
[02:45] <haris> Seveas: I originally did a dhclient which fixed it just fine, but the computer restarted later and when it came up dhclient wasn't working
[02:45] <locomorto> Samba, thats what you use to share with windows machines
[02:45] <signius> Is there issues with sound in ubuntu
[02:45] <locomorto> it does not come preinstalled
[02:45] <bob2> Gus__: you can just edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:45] <locomorto> signius yes
[02:45] <Gus__> locomorto, yeah i know. i synaptic'ed it
[02:45] <thoreauputic> sideh: seriously, if you read the URL I posted above you will save yourself a lot of time
[02:45] <signius> i got some weird stuff going on with sound through kismet
[02:45] <rickie> Meh
[02:45] <signius> yet sound works in the desktop
[02:45] <trygvebw> locomorto: can GIMP morph images?
[02:45] <rickie> the only sound output that works for me is ESD
[02:45] <haris> Seveas: as in, there was no messing with the physical connection, at all, and it was working before, so I'd presume the problem wasn't there...
[02:45] <locomorto> Gus: sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:45] <sideh> thoreauputic: reading atm :) cheers for the link
[02:45] <rickie> i get no sound in games or anything
[02:46] <locomorto> then change the workgroup
[02:46] <signius> i have got play installed and in the correct path in kismet yet it doesnt work
[02:46] <thoreauputic> sideh: recent discovery for me :D
[02:46] <locomorto> Gus__: do you have smbfs?
[02:46] <signius> and the same with festival speech also
[02:46] <Gus__> i did that, and am now changing the workgroup
[02:46] <signius> yet if i exit kismet
[02:46] <eruin> thanks thoreauputic ;)
[02:46] <Ashen> 0.8.1
[02:46] <thoreauputic> eruin: you're welcome
[02:46] <Gus__> locomorto, i can synaptic it, i did install it then remove it to have a "cleaner" stuff on which work again with help
[02:46] <signius> and in a root terminal issue shutdown -h now i get the speech out of kismet working for a second
[02:46] <Seveas> haris, well, if mii-diag say "Link status: not establshed" there is a problem with the physical connection...
[02:46] <userx1> how to remove some menu from Applications? Coz I just installed a Gaim-VV and I want to remove the old GAIM from the menu
[02:46] <signius> so festival is obviously installed and working
[02:46] <userx1> thanks
[02:47] <Seveas> userx1, with smeg you can do that
[02:47] <signius> what does ubuntu use for sound by default ?
[02:47] <Seveas> signius, esd
[02:47] <signius> maybe i try pointing kismet at that to get that element working
[02:48] <Gus__> okay, it seems to work from the XP station, but it asks me for a passwd. i guess i have to change it in the smb.conf right ?
[02:48] <signius> so thats is /usr/bin/esd ?
[02:48] <Seveas> signius, yes
[02:48] <haris> Seveas: I find that hard to believe since it's always worked fine, but I may try switching the cable later. Thanks for your help. :)
[02:48] <thoreauputic> esd == everything Stops Dead (tm)
[02:48] <signius> ok i will try that
[02:48] <bob2> Gus__: it depends what you're accessing
[02:48] <signius> its like this way of insisting on using sudo screws kismet also
[02:49] <signius> if you sudo and run kismet is crashes
[02:49] <Gus__> bob2, a non-root-only directory
[02:49] <signius> but if you sudo su then run kismet it works perfect
[02:49] <ram_einstein> hi all
[02:49] <bob2> signius: er, no
[02:49] <haris> Seveas: are many people on breezy?
[02:49] <ram_einstein> I just installed xmms and it's icon seems to be missing
[02:49] <Seveas> haris, no
[02:49] <ram_einstein> why?
[02:49] <bob2> signius: 'sudo kismet_server' was worked for me since before warty
[02:49] <signius> bob2 what are you saying "no" to ?
[02:50] <Seveas> ram_einstein, it should be in applications->audio & video
[02:50] <Gus__> bob2, i'd like to configure it so that users on the LAN don't need a password to access the files i share on the ubuntu server, do you know how i can do that ?
[02:50] <signius> kismet_server is different to kismet
[02:50] <haris> Seveas: ah, just read topic...not recommended. Any date for when users should try it out?
[02:50] <bob2> Gus__: make a share entry in the smb.conf
[02:50] <haris> I'm adventurous, so I may anyway =)
[02:50] <ram_einstein> yeah sevas
[02:50] <aragorn_> spano.org
[02:50] <ram_einstein> it's there
[02:51] <bob2> signius: sude kismet works fine, too
[02:51] <signius> not for me
[02:51] <ram_einstein> but it's icon is missing
[02:51] <Seveas> haris, not yet, there are 3 major transitions going on. After these have finished, it's time to try out
[02:51] <ram_einstein> the graphic
[02:51] <Seveas> ram_einstein, hmm....
[02:51] <Seveas> odd
[02:51] <haris> Seveas: excellent, great stuff. No rest for Ubuntu devs ;-).
[02:51] <bob2> signius: how does it crash?
[02:51] <Seveas> try aptitude purge xmms && aptitude install xmms
[02:52] <Seveas> ram_einstein, and try beep-media-player too (better looking gtk2 port of xmms)
[02:52] <signius> and also on the kismet tutorial on the ubuntu site the guy who wrote the tutorial had similar problems btu it balmed it on the rfmon of the card and said to shut down the nic before starting kismet
[02:52] <signius> but this didnt work for me
[02:52] <haris> ram_einstein: or amaroK -- great one.
[02:52] <signius> the work around that is working for me is to sudo su
[02:52] <Gus__> bob2, okay, but i don't understand how the options there work. for exaple, when i put in /datashare (obviously a directory where i want to share data ^^), then the XP client tries to access "/datashare" instead of "datashare" and so it doesn't work
[02:52] <Seveas> haris, amarok leads to kde, kde leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering
[02:52] <signius> i googled loads about this and almost all the results point to a permissions issue
[02:52] <Seveas> ;)
[02:53] <bob2> signius: how does it crash?
[02:53] <haris> Seveas: kde leads to fear? I've always imagined kde-land as a happy place filled with joy
[02:53] <signius> i will fire the box up in a while and give you the exact outputs
[02:53] <HappyFool> Gus__: the name of the share is the bit in []  (brackets)
[02:53] <haris> Seveas: while I kind of imagine myself as too powerful/big for gnomes
[02:53] <Gus__> okay
[02:53] <HappyFool> Gus__: you can use 'guest ok = yes' to make the share available to anyone
[02:53] <thoreauputic> Seveas: I prefer to remain in a state of Flux *g*
[02:53] <HappyFool> Gus__: i presume you are editing the file /etc/samba/smb.conf ?
[02:53] <Gus__> they would then have to log in as guest, though, right ?
[02:53] <Gus__> HappyFool, i am sir
[02:54] <ram_einstein> one sec sevas
[02:54] <signius> im going to just shoot off for some Lunch and then ill be back
[02:54] <bob2> Gus__: http://crumbs.ertius.org/~rob/smb.snippet
[02:54] <HappyFool> Gus__: not as far as i know
[02:54] <Ashen> kde is ugly as hell, but amarok is the win
[02:54] <signius> bob2 are you going to be online for a while ?
[02:54] <bob2> Gus__: that's from the end of mine, and works fine with no password from windows and linux
[02:54] <Gus__> okay, thanks bob2  and HappyFool i will try to play a bit with that =)
[02:54] <bob2> signius: my irc client will be
[02:54] <haris> Ashen: even the new kde? Oh come on :P
[02:54] <bob2> (probably me too)
[02:54] <topyli> haris: the gnome lord wields a shovel! the gnome lord hits!
[02:54] <signius> bob2 hope to talk more abot this soon
[02:54] <Ashen> haris gimme linkage-- I've been looking for something to proove me wrong for a while
[02:55] <haris> topyli: surely the gnome-lord is only two feet high...
[02:55] <signius> do you use sound and festival on kismet under ubuntu ?
[02:55] <bob2> nope
[02:55] <signius> darn
[02:55] <signius> ok speak soon
[02:55] <bob2> I did use festival in the past, tho
[02:55] <Ashen> anyone got any ideas aboot meh ut2004 woes!?
[02:55] <haris> Ashen: there's a plethora of great ones on kdelook
[02:55] <bob2> and it was hella annoying
[02:55] <Gus__> just one last thing please: how do i restart samba to take into account the modifications of the .conf ?
[02:55] <Ashen> yay plethora!
[02:55] <topyli> haris: the gnome lord wields a bow! the gnome lord throws an arrow!
[02:55] <bob2> Gus__: sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart
[02:55] <Seveas> Gus__, invoke-rc.d samba restart
[02:55] <Gus__> hehe
[02:55] <Gus__> thanks guys =)
[02:55] <ram_einstein> nope Seveas
[02:55] <bob2> np
[02:56] <haris> topyli: isn't that a bit like an ant attacking... erm, a human? =)
[02:56] <userx1> Seveas, i cant find Smeg at Synaptic
[02:56] <ram_einstein> still the same
[02:56] <bob2> smeg isn't in hoary
[02:56] <Seveas> userx1, it's not in there
[02:56] <Ashen> haris: no entries in screenshots
[02:56] <userx1> lol, where ?
[02:56] <Seveas> userx1, go to www.realistanew.com
[02:56] <haris> Ashen: check on the right -- you may have screenshots disabled
[02:56] <ram_einstein> I have the deb but on the gnome menu the icon seems missing
[02:57] <ram_einstein> it displays an ugly app icon
[02:57] <Gus__> hmmm
[02:57] <Ashen> hars: :p
[02:58] <haris> Ashen: not sure if that's the best place to look, since anyone attacking KDE is attacking the default look, I'd presume -- and many there are highly customized
[02:58] <Gus__> works a charm, thanks guys =)
[02:58] <bob2> you're welcome
[02:58] <ram_einstein> and xmms is hung too now that I tried to close it
[02:58] <Gus__> one more thing please, if you don't mind: how do i do to access those files from another ubuntu ?
[02:58] <haris> Ashen: some officials http://kde.org/screenshots/kde340shots.php
[02:58] <haris> but I gotta go now anyhow, see ya.
[02:58] <bob2> Gus__: sudo mount -t smbfs -o ro //<IP_ADDRESS>/stuff /mnt/kazoo
[02:58] <Gus__> user-friendly
[02:58] <Gus__> =D
[02:59] <bob2> Gus__: where 'stuff' is the share name, and the ip is, er, the ip
[02:59] <ram_einstein> what can play mp3 here?
[02:59] <bob2> Gus__: you need smbutils installed, too
[02:59] <Gus__> thanks a whole, whole lot bob2, you've been very helpful =)
[02:59] <bob2> np
[02:59] <HappyFool> i think there's an smb:// syntax for nautilus too (?)
[02:59] <bob2> Gus__: also, if you go to places ->> netowkr in the gnome panel menu, you should be able to browse to it
[02:59] <bob2> etc
[02:59] <Gus__> is it the same to access a winXP sharing from ubuntu or is there another thing to do ?
[02:59] <Seveas> ram_einstein, xmms can
[03:00] <Seveas> ram_einstein, you need to change the output plugin to esd/esound
[03:00] <AvvY> t
[03:00] <HappyFool> Gus__: same thing
[03:00] <userx1> what is the command to install a .deb file. Coz I just downloaded the Smeg.deb file\
[03:01] <userx1> :)
[03:01] <Gus__> HappyFool, thanks =)
[03:01] <HappyFool> Gus__: though there are minor variations if you need a username/password to access it
[03:01] <Ashen> haris: yeah... the default look has been dodgy for a very long time... good to see they got some new icons... still not nice, but I like what some people are doing with it :)
[03:01] <ram_einstein> only if xmms would work!
[03:01] <ram_einstein> brb
[03:01] <Ashen> haris: might have a play around with it when I'm bored
[03:01] <thoreauputic> userx1: sudo dpkg -i smeg*
[03:01] <Ashen> haris: but then I have to learn konquerer
[03:01] <Ashen> haris: and all those little doohickies
[03:02] <Ashen> haris: and kde shows the open windows for all of the desktops on every desktop-- ewww
[03:02] <quickbrownfox> hey folks.
[03:02] <topyli> Ashen: that's what my gnome does :)
[03:02] <Ashen> haris: not to mention the default double click on the bar-->raise thing that it had last time I checked.
[03:03] <userx1> thoreauputic, can I paste the error here ?
[03:03] <thoreauputic> Ashen: I think it's configurable
[03:03] <quickbrownfox> after installing ubuntu it freezes during the first boot where it installs a load of packages.
[03:03] <Ashen> yes topyli, you are a fool :p
[03:03] <thoreauputic> userx1: no, in #flood
[03:03] <quickbrownfox> it freezes on xlibs
[03:03] <topyli> yep
[03:03] <userx1> ok
[03:03] <Ashen> course it is, but anyone who turns all the most annoying features on as default... well... not the first person I would go with
[03:04] <quickbrownfox> also i can't boot xp anymore... autchk not found... followed bt fatal error BSOD
[03:04] <Pixel83> has anyone experience with nvtv_
[03:04] <quickbrownfox> safe mode doesn't work. even booting from the xp CD doesn't work
[03:04] <Gus__> HappyFool, when i try to mount the files on the XP station, it tells me "10888: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)"... that's baaad =/
[03:04] <Sora_Aoi> quickbrownfox yr hdd is screwed
[03:04] <Sora_Aoi> throw it away and buy a new one
[03:04] <Ashen> quickbrownfox: I suggest opening the disk management tool, clicking on your xp partition, and doing a bit of a format...
[03:04] <Ashen> :p
[03:05] <Ashen> *jkz*
[03:05] <bob2> Gus__: does it work mounting it on linux?
[03:05] <HappyFool> Gus__: what's your network setup? home network, or what?
[03:05] <Gus__> yeah, i'm on a home network of a whooping 2 machines for now
[03:05] <AvvY> im thinking id like to use kde, but its a 350package download... is it worth it?
[03:05] <HappyFool> Gus__: you are trying to access an XP share from linux now, right?
[03:05] <Ashen> neway... anywone know anything aboot my ut
[03:05] <Ashen> *cries*
[03:06] <Gus__> what i meant is: i tried to access the XP files from the ubuntu station, so tried mounting the shared directory (on XP) to my Ubuntu machine
[03:06] <Gus__> that's when i did that that it returned the error i've pasted
[03:06] <Ashen> Gus__: what exactly is the $ u used
[03:06] <Ashen> ?
[03:06] <quickbrownfox> the only thing i can boot into is an ubuntu command prompt. can i fix an ntfs partition from there?
[03:06] <Ng> AvvY: that's a dangerous question to ask ;)
[03:06] <Ng> AvvY: as it depends who you ask :)
[03:06] <Pixel83> hmm...
[03:06] <Gus__> Ashen, sorry i didn't understand your question =)
[03:06] <HappyFool> Gus__: hum. try smbclient -L <xpmachinename>   (or ip)
[03:06] <AvvY> Ng: well, how many MB would it be do u think?
[03:06] <Ashen> Avvy: dont ask me
[03:07] <herbalcomrad> anyone know a good communtity repostory? one with enlgithenment dr17...the one in the ubuntu forums doesent work forme
[03:07] <Ashen> Gus__: command. What do you type in the terminal?
[03:07] <userx1> Amaranth, :)
[03:07] <Gus__> ok HappyFool i will try
[03:07] <xabbu|sleeping> How do I shrink my linux partition? I want to install windows and give it a try...
[03:07] <userx1> u there ?
[03:07] <Ashen> Gus__: To get that error
[03:07] <Ashen> Avvy : :)
[03:07] <Ng> AvvY: I'm not sure, but apt-get/synaptic should tell you how many MB they want to download before doing it, so try :)
[03:07] <Pixel83> Has anyone made the TV-Out of a nvidia work?
[03:07] <Gus__> HappyFool, your command returned that: session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_TYPE_NOT_GRANTED
[03:07] <Ashen> xabbu: dont do it!
[03:07] <userx1> u know about the baby ?
[03:07] <userx1> oh sorry
[03:08] <thoreauputic> haha
[03:08] <AvvY> 639MB will be used!!!
[03:08] <Gus__> Ashen, i typed what bob told me to:  sudo mount -t smbfs -o ro //<IP_ADDRESS>/
[03:08] <Ng> AvvY: there should be another number, how much it needs to download
[03:08] <Ashen> Gus__: Try cifs instead of smbfs
[03:08] <userx1> she doesnt response
[03:08] <rickie> How do i get Alsa sound working in Ubuntu? I think i need it for Americas Army/ Any other game
[03:08] <Ng> the "will be used" is how much diskspace will be used after the packages are unpacked
[03:08] <Ashen> if ubuntu supports it
[03:08] <xabbu|> Ashen, what I mean is I would like to see if my disc survives ntfs filesystem...
[03:09] <userx1> is any body know on how to put Shortcut link from orginal application to Desktop and Menus ?
[03:09] <herbalcomrad> i know many people have prolly asked and people are sick  of answering the same question but can someone help me get DR17 on my box
[03:09] <xabbu|> The reason I have ubuntu...
[03:09] <Gus__> Ashen, "mount error 13 = Permission denied"
[03:09] <Ashen> xabbu: oh... sorry :P I freaked out for a second :p
[03:09] <Ashen> Gus: uhmm... yeah... its a different thing too :p
[03:10] <xabbu|> Ashen, It's alright... :P
[03:10] <thoreauputic> userx1: got that?
[03:10] <Ng> xabbu|: I think you could use resize2fs to shrink your partition, then parted to resize/move it and make one for windows
[03:10] <Ng> it'll take ages though ;)
[03:10] <HappyFool> Gus__: try this: smbclient -L <machinename> -U <winxpusername>
[03:10] <cursed_sword> herbalcomrad cvs compile from source
[03:11] <HappyFool> Gus__: you should (?) be prompted for a password
[03:11] <herbalcomrad> cursed_sword, im a retard
[03:11] <Ashen> Gus__: something like "sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/folder /mnt/newfolder"
[03:11] <xabbu|> Ng, well it's better than to reinstall the whole system... :)
[03:11] <Ashen> I cant remember the exact ting... its been a while since I've mounted network shares
[03:11] <Ashen> :p
[03:11] <herbalcomrad> cursed_sword, is there an easy way.....a synaptic repository?
[03:11] <luis_> hi...
[03:11] <Gus__> Ashen, that's what i did i think, i will try again after i've tried HappyFool 's command
[03:12] <cursed_sword> herbalcomrad post a msg on ubuntuforums.org
[03:12] <Ashen> k
[03:12] <Ng> xabbu|: assuming it works, you'll want to be very careful you get all the sizes right. If you have Partition Magic that can do it all, but it's not free ;)
[03:12] <Ng> xabbu|: make sure you take backups of anything you don't want to lose :)
[03:12] <luis_> can anybody help me?...i'm newbie
[03:12] <Ng> luis_: ask a question and find out :)
[03:12] <herbalcomrad> cursed_sword, ok
[03:12] <jeroen_> luis_, the topic for this channel is: just ask!
[03:12] <Ashen> luis_:  shoot: whats yur problem :)
[03:12] <xabbu|> Ng, isn't PM just for window?
[03:12] <Gus__> HappyFool, i have to find out the XP user registered on the machine first =P i never use that comp...
[03:13] <HappyFool> Gus__: hmm
[03:13] <Ng> xabbu|: yeah, although I think the CD it comes on can be booted into a console version, not sure though
[03:13] <luis_> ;) ok..thanks...how can i play dvd movien with obuntu?
[03:13] <Ng> I don't need/want/have it :)
[03:13] <HappyFool> Gus__: what sort of an xp is it ? xp home ?
[03:13] <Gus__> yup
[03:13] <xabbu|> btw, isn't there some open source version of it?
[03:13] <Gus__> and the only registered user is... "Administrateur" ^^
[03:13] <Ashen> Gus__: unless you force it you shouldn't need to login for a share.
[03:13] <HappyFool> Gus__: the LOGONTYPE_NOT_SUPPORTED was a bit weird
[03:14] <DagaZ> iptables v1.2.11: Unknown arg `-m' <-- is this some kind of joke??
[03:14] <Ng> luis_: see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:14] <Gus__> yup, when i log in anonymously, i go a step farther
[03:14] <Gus__> but then it stops again
[03:14] <HappyFool> err, NOT_GRANTED, whatever
[03:14] <Ashen> Gus__: I'm also not sure you can mount the computer, I think you might have to specifiy a share.
[03:14] <quickbrownfox> can anyone help with my problem if freezing during first boot after install?
[03:14] <quickbrownfox> if = of
[03:14] <Gus__> Ashen, i did, at first, then tried without a directory-name
[03:14] <HappyFool> Gus__: let's try this instead: use the top menu, Places -> Connect to server
[03:14] <Gus__> but i will try again both
[03:15] <Gus__> HappyFool, ok i'll do that now
[03:15] <HappyFool> Gus__: change service type to windows share, and fill in the other bits
[03:15] <HappyFool> Gus__: i guess leave the username blank initially
[03:16] <luis_> ok..and the last one (by now)...how can i install the java plugin in firefox?
[03:16] <Gus__> 'you must login blabla'
[03:16] <HappyFool> erk. is 'guest' a standard windows account ? try 'guest' as the username?
[03:17] <Gus__> neither that nor anonymous did the trick
[03:17] <HappyFool> i take it you don't know the admin password?
[03:17] <Gus__> i don't remember using a pass when i accessed it from another winXP machine
[03:17] <Gus__> actually, the very machine i'm using, back when i used XP on it...
[03:18] <Ng> luis_: that should be on the page I linked to too :)
[03:18] <Ng> luis_: (see the Java section)
[03:18] <Ng> it covers installing most of the things people want, but Ubuntu can't distribute by default :)
[03:18] <luis_> yeah..i see...thanks a lot ng
[03:18] <aegr> how do I disable the nautilus cd burning feature, it very annoying
[03:19] <Ng> aegr: when you insert a blank disc?
[03:19] <aegr> Ng, yes
[03:19] <bob2> aegr: system -> preferences -> removable media
[03:19] <Ng> aegr: System->Preferences->Removable Media
[03:19] <quickbrownfox> quick unrelated question: do laptops use the same hard drives as desktops?
[03:19] <Nige> ello
[03:19] <optik> quickbrownfox, no
[03:19] <optik> smalle
[03:19] <Nige> how are we all?
[03:19] <optik> smaller*
[03:19] <Gus__> in windows, you need to activate "share windows files" or something in the TCP/IP properties. is there something similar i'd have to do in Ubuntu ?
[03:19] <Nige> how do you identify your wirless driver?
[03:19] <Ng> quickbrownfox: laptops use 2.5" disks, desktops use 3.5" ones
[03:19] <optik> Gus__, you need Samba
[03:19] <Nige> if i want to use the wpa_supplicant
[03:20] <HappyFool> Gus__: that should be done on the machine sharing the files
[03:20] <optik> there is a guide on the ubuntufirums
[03:20] <HappyFool> Gus__: presumably that XP is sharing files ;)
[03:20] <quickbrownfox> optik: bugger.
[03:20] <bob2> Gus__: no
[03:20] <bob2> Gus__: (that's what samba dos)
[03:20] <Gus__> HappyFool, it definitely is, since i did share files with it
[03:20] <Gus__> ok, thanks, i was just checking =)
[03:20] <Gus__> well, then, it still doesn't work =P
[03:21] <davix> I'm having a serious trouble. when I load my machine, X tries to start itself 3 times, each of the times it falls back to console (tty login prompt) and then finnaly shows the msg of x not working good and a query if id like to see the error log. but then it HANGS. what can I do. I can't even go to terminal after that.
[03:21] <NetGrunt> hi there
[03:21] <optik> quickbrownfox:  why, what are you wanting to do?
[03:21] <Ng> quickbrownfox: they are compatible though, if you really need to plug one into the other you can with a special cable
[03:21] <bob2> Gus__: can you mount it on localhost?
[03:21] <NetGrunt> which is the best way to play dvd's under ubuntu ? Totem ?
[03:21] <Ng> obviously a desktop one won't fit inside a laptop ;)
[03:21] <bob2> davix: did it ever work?
[03:21] <optik> NetGrunt:  I use xine-ui
[03:21] <bob2> NetGrunt: gxine is nice
[03:21] <Ng> NetGrunt: totem or xine probably
[03:21] <Gus__> bob2, sorry, what do you mean ?
[03:21] <davix> bob2, nope. first install.
[03:21] <HappyFool> bob2: he's trying to access a share on a windows machine
[03:21] <Nige> is there a wirless channal?
[03:21] <HappyFool> bob2: i mean, the share is on the windows machine
[03:21] <NetGrunt> thanks guys
[03:21] <quickbrownfox> optik: i'm trying to install ubuntu but something went wrong and now xp is unbootable
[03:22] <NetGrunt> ill take a look to those players
[03:22] <Gus__> yeah, quick summary:
[03:22] <Gus__> the XP machine can perfectly access the files i'm sharing on my Ubuntu machine, using Samba
[03:22] <davix> bob2, nope. first install. i had ubuntu installed here already, but this problem never happend before. only one i reinstalled ubuntu it happen.
[03:22] <Gus__> now, i want to have my Ubuntu access shared winXP files
[03:22] <optik> quickbrownfox:  sounds like you need to run the XP recovery console
[03:22] <Gus__> that's what i cannot do atm
[03:22] <bob2> Gus__: sudo mount -t smbfs -o ro //<IP_ADDRESS>/sharename /mnt
[03:22] <bob2> HappyFool: oh, duh me, sorry
[03:22] <bob2> Gus__: ignore me then, sorry
[03:22] <Gus__> lol don't be sorry =)
[03:23] <NetGrunt> one question : I had to install beep-player to be able to play mp3 files ... why Totem doesn't play them ?
[03:23] <bob2> NetGrunt: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:23] <quickbrownfox> optik: booting from the xp CD doesn't work, and it always did before. when i press any key to boot from CD i just get a blank screen
[03:23] <quickbrownfox> optik: i've tried 2 different xp CDs
[03:23] <bob2> Gus__: 'sudo mount -t smbfs -o ro //ipaddress/sharename /mnt' doesn't work?
[03:23] <optik> :S doesnt sound promising
[03:23] <NetGrunt> bob2, thanks pal
[03:23] <cursed_sword> Why do people want to play mp3 files? Isn't ogg superior?
[03:24] <Gus__> bob2, i will try it again and show you the errors generated
[03:24] <Ng> cursed_sword: mp3 is a popular format
[03:24] <optik> quickbrownfox:  if the data is not important then boot from a live cd and do a proper full format
[03:24] <cursed_sword> Ng, which can be easily converted to ogg
[03:24] <Gus__> Anonymous login successful
[03:24] <Gus__> 11252: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[03:24] <Gus__> SMB connection failed
[03:24] <Ng> NetGrunt: go into the wiki on ubuntu's website and look for the RestrictedFormats page, it covers installing mp3
[03:24] <optik> sounds like the mbr is screwed, hence the inability to boot from CD
[03:24] <quickbrownfox> optik: it's not backed up and i don't want to lose it
[03:24] <HappyFool> Gus__: my suspicion is that you need to tweak something on the windows machine
[03:24] <Ng> cursed_sword: not on a default ubuntu install, and not without losing quality. what's your point? ;)
[03:24] <bob2> Gus__: can you access that share from a windows machine?
[03:24] <quickbrownfox> optik: no way to fix mbr?
[03:24] <optik> ok then.... sounds like you're gonna need a 2.5" - 3.5" convertor
[03:25] <Gus__> bob2, i could before i installed Ubuntu
[03:25] <optik> you can.... in live cd's usually
[03:25] <Gus__> now, maybe if i tried now it wouldn't work, that i cannot say for sure...
[03:25] <cursed_sword> Ng my cup of coffee is growing cold rather quickly.
[03:25] <quickbrownfox> ok i have knoppix
[03:25] <optik> http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/
[03:25] <Gus__> HappyFool, i'm trying to create an account on the XP machine now, to see if i can use your method of authentication
[03:25] <optik> tht is better for fixin windows stuff imho
[03:25] <Ng> cursed_sword: I don't disagree with you that ogg is better, I try to rip my CDs to FLAC or Ogg, but my mp3 player will only play mp3s ;)
[03:25] <quickbrownfox> ah i think i have that too. thanks
[03:25] <Ng> I'll get an iriver one day
[03:26] <HappyFool> Gus__: can't you change the share properties (on windows) to be more permissive ?
[03:26] <DagaZ> can anyone here help me with my firewall?
[03:26] <cursed_sword> Ng I desire more companies to create open source hardware
[03:26] <Ng> DagaZ: what's up with it?
[03:26] <quickbrownfox> Ng: me too... one dayh
[03:26] <Ng> cursed_sword: don't we all :)
[03:26] <Gus__> HappyFool, i think it's already non-protected by a password, that's what puzzles me
[03:26] <DagaZ> Ng: iptables v1.2.11: Unknown arg `-m' <-- is this some kind of joke??
[03:26] <quickbrownfox> optik: thanks. i'll be back later if things go hairy
[03:26] <optik> not a prob
[03:27] <optik> PM if ya need help
[03:27] <quickbrownfox> =]
[03:27] <bob2> DagaZ: what does 'uname -r' print out?
[03:27] <DagaZ> bob2: w8
[03:27] <Ng> DagaZ: what was the command you gave it?
[03:27] <DagaZ> 2.6.10-5-386
[03:28] <Gus__> session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_TYPE_NOT_GRANTED <== that's what 'smbclient -L <IP_ADDRESS> -U gus' returned, while i have just created a login/pass entry of that name in the XP station
[03:28] <bob2> DagaZ: show us the whole line you're trying to run
[03:28] <DagaZ> Ng: $FW -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o br0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
[03:28] <HappyFool> Gus__: try 'net view <machinename>' ?
[03:28] <DagaZ> Ng: $FW stands for /sbin/iptables
[03:28] <Ng> that command runs without error here
[03:28] <Gus__> no command view
[03:29] <Gus__> o.O
[03:29] <bob2> DagaZ: wfm, with that kernel
[03:29] <Ng> DagaZ: "lsmod | grep ipt" - does that show any modules?
[03:29] <HappyFool> Gus__: sorry, that a mistake
[03:29] <DagaZ> Ng: ipt_state               2048  3
[03:29] <DagaZ> ipt_MASQUERADE          3584  9
[03:29] <DagaZ> iptable_nat            24648  2 ipt_MASQUERADE
[03:29] <DagaZ> ip_conntrack           43668  3 ipt_state,ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat
[03:29] <DagaZ> iptable_filter          3840  1
[03:29] <DagaZ> ip_tables              17408  4 ipt_state,ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat,iptable_filter
[03:29] <HappyFool> Gus__: trying to look up this error in mailing lists
[03:30] <Ng> DagaZ: looks fine
[03:30] <Ng> hmm
[03:30] <Gus__> HappyFool, thanks a lot =)
[03:30] <HappyFool> Gus__: try logging in with the wrong password... just to see if you get a different error (NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE)
[03:31] <Gus__> ok
[03:31] <Gus__> same error
[03:31] <Gus__> ...
[03:31] <Gus__> the exact error is: NT_STATUS_LOGON_TYPE_NOT_GRANTED
[03:31] <Nige> with the windows permission
[03:31] <Nige> did you set it on the share and on the folder permissions ?
[03:31] <Nige> cause it would need both :)
[03:32] <Gus__> Nige, what do you mean ?
[03:32] <DagaZ> Ng:  I will try to change some hardware and be back later.. thx for now
[03:32] <Nige> well
[03:32] <Nige> if you set up shares in windows
[03:32] <Nige> to get your linux box to access them
[03:32] <Gus__> yup
[03:32] <Nige> you need secuirty on the local files
[03:33] <Nige> ie, everyone needs read access on the local
[03:33] <Gus__> you mean where i mount them ?
[03:33] <Nige> and set full control on the folder share for everyone
[03:33] <Nige> in effect the read only permission is taken
[03:33] <ram_einstein> my aptitude doesn't seem to work too well
[03:33] <Nige> so you wanna get mount a windows share
[03:33] <Nige> ?
[03:33] <Gus__> i want to be able to access files on a winXP machine from an Ubuntu machine
[03:34] <Nige> ah okay
[03:34] <Nige> thats first step
[03:34] <Nige> you need read privellegs on it
[03:34] <ram_einstein> how do I delete my obsolete packages?
[03:34] <Nige> :)
[03:34] <ram_einstein> and refresh my aptitude
[03:34] <Nige> windows needs both permission otherwise it dont work
[03:34] <Gus__> Nige, the thing is that, when you setup a file sharing in winXP, it just asks a sharename and if you want to authorise others to modify the files. i checked both boxes
[03:34] <ram_einstein> to fresh download and install everything hereafter?
[03:35] <Nige> are you using xp home?
[03:35] <ram_einstein> ie, delete apt cache?'
[03:35] <Gus__> yes
[03:35] <Gus__> ooh wait
[03:35] <Nige> aahhh
[03:35] <Nige> :S
[03:35] <Gus__> lemme check
[03:35] <Gus__> might be pro actually
[03:35] <aegr> ram_einstein,  "apt-get clean"
[03:35] <Gus__> yeah
[03:35] <Nige> just type cmd
[03:35] <Nige> then type ver
[03:35] <Nige> :)
[03:35] <Gus__> it's pro, home is on my laptop
[03:35] <Nige> thats should tel you
[03:35] <Nige> okay
[03:36] <ram_einstein> thanks aegr!
[03:36] <Nige> wel then goto you folder options tab
[03:36] <Marko01> Hoping someone can help me out with Evolution on my Ubuntu machine at this hour.  For some strange reason the send/recieve button, all of the sudden is grayed out and I can't seem to figure out why. ?
[03:36] <Nige> you need to change the settings
[03:36] <Gus__> well ver only says: NT_STATUS_LOGON_TYPE_NOT_GRANTED
[03:36] <Gus__> oops
[03:36] <Nige> so you dont use simple file sharing
[03:36] <Nige> i think you need a user account on your winnt box to see it
[03:36] <Nige> :)
[03:36] <Nige> i think
[03:36] <Marko01> receive*
[03:36] <Gus__> i have just created an administrator account on the winXP box
[03:37] <ram_einstein> what can be the reason for packages not being installed properly via aptitude?
[03:37] <Seveas> ram_einstein, various...
[03:37] <jeroen_> ram_einstein, dependencies
[03:37] <Nige> i will boot up my winx box
[03:37] <Seveas> what is the error?
[03:37] <Nige> you could try something like this
[03:37] <Gus__> okay
[03:38] <ram_einstein> jeroen_, but I thought apt takes care of that...
[03:38] <ram_einstein> Seveas, could you list a few likely ones?
[03:38] <Nige> smbmount -t autofs //Server/Share /winshare (local share)
[03:38] <Nige> that might prompt for user name and passwd
[03:38] <ram_einstein> how do I fix my problem?
[03:38] <Gus__> Nige,  trying now
[03:38] <Seveas> ram_einstein, unresolvable dependencies, download errors, errors in the package...
[03:38] <ram_einstein> nothing seems to install correctly incl. xmms
[03:39] <Seveas> ram_einstein, if you can tell us the error, that would help
[03:39] <VRH> i have a ntfs network partition mounting by samba, can i rite in it?
[03:39] <Gus__> Nige, it seems the syntax is wrong, i get a --help display
[03:39] <ram_einstein> Seveas, but apt doesn't give any errors!
[03:39] <Seveas>  VRH yes
[03:39] <ram_einstein> it seems to install fine
[03:39] <Seveas> VRH, it's a smaba partition for your ubuntu box
[03:39] <Nige> hmm okay
[03:39] <Nige> hold on
[03:40] <ram_einstein> but when I use the app, there seem to be "bugs"
[03:40] <Nige> do you have smbmount installed?
[03:40] <Seveas> ram_einstein, ah, then your question is wrong...
[03:40] <ram_einstein> what should I ask then Seveas
[03:40] <Seveas> ram_einstein, are you running breezy?
[03:40] <ram_einstein> no
[03:40] <ram_einstein> hoary
[03:40] <ram_einstein> 5.04
[03:40] <TokenBad> ok I just try to open totem movie player...and get msg that can't use oss sound cause its being used already....any idea how to fix that?
[03:41] <Seveas> ram_einstein, gnome/kde/xfce?
[03:41] <ram_einstein> gnome
[03:41] <Gus__> Nige, i don't know, how do i check ?
[03:41] <VRH> but samba uses the win dirver of ntfs?
[03:41] <Seveas> what's the error with xmms, only the icon missing or more?
[03:41] <ram_einstein> normal ubuntu, I just downloaded it and burnt it
[03:41] <ram_einstein> no funny tricks
[03:42] <Gus__> Nige, Usage: mount.smbfs service mountpoint [-n]  [-o options,...]
[03:42] <Seveas> VRH, samba uses the samba protocol. It is complete;y agnostic to the actual partition types
[03:42] <ram_einstein> and added some extra repos
[03:42] <Seveas> ram_einstein, ah, which ones?
[03:42] <Gus__> Nige, that's the first line of the stuff i get when i type "smbmount"
[03:42] <Nige> hold on
[03:42] <ram_einstein> as per ubuntuguide.org
[03:42] <Seveas> ram_einstein, that is WRONG!
[03:42] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is quite crappy
[03:42] <Gus__> is it ?
[03:42] <Gus__> good to know...
[03:42] <Seveas> yes
[03:42] <VRH> thx Seveas
[03:42] <stjepan> hi
[03:42] <voth> has anyone updated their system and stopped being able to print?
[03:42] <Seveas> hi stjepan
[03:43] <Gus__> and i thought i'd have a clean install by only following this guide... =)
[03:43] <erUSUL> TokenBad, is totem-xine or totem-gstreamer??
[03:43] <ram_einstein> whoops Seveas!
[03:43] <HappyFool> Nige: for what it's worth, Gus__ has a mount command already (mount -t smbfs ... blah blah), it's the windows permissions are the problem
[03:43] <stjepan> can I download Opera browser with apt-get?
[03:43] <Seveas> stjepan, no
[03:43] <ram_einstein> one sec, I'll get you my sources.list
[03:43] <Seveas> it's not free software
[03:43] <TokenBad> erUSUL, not sure its whatever is default in ubuntu..cause it just says totem in the music and video section
[03:43] <Nige> hmm
[03:43] <Nige> you sure"?
[03:44] <stjepan> Seveas, I need to download from opera.com?
[03:44] <Seveas> stjepan, yes
[03:44] <cursed_sword> Why would you want to use Opera? It has advertisements in the free version.
[03:44] <Gus__> Nige, i am not, but then again i don't know anything about using Linux as a desktop OS =)
[03:44] <HappyFool> Nige: smbclient -L <winname> -U <username> gives a NT_LOGON_* something error, so I'm reasonably sure
[03:44] <rickie> Guys, sombody must know why Alsa won't work, to get sound in my games i have to kill esd and when i start it again my music crackles.. :/
[03:44] <Nige> lol
[03:44] <Nige> neither do i but i will get there :)
[03:45] <erUSUL> TokenBad, look in Help --> About
[03:45] <melostalgic> i just installed ubuntu yesterday and my sound was working fine then later that evening it stopped working altogether. was wondering if there was any way to fix it or find out why it's not working it?
[03:45] <rickie> sound in ubuntu sucks :/
[03:45] <Gus__> sound in ubuntu works perfectly fine on my laptop, but on my desktop i can't play sounds simultaneously... anyway, thats not my problem today =P
[03:46] <chillywilly> what utility will redirect sound card access to esd?
[03:46] <rickie> if anybody knows the answer to my question above say my name please =)
[03:46] <melostalgic> well i know it works because it was working yesterday.
[03:46] <Ng> I don't know any of the answers to these sound problems, but I will say that an SB Live makes them all go away ;)
[03:47] <Ng> I realise that's not a very helpful answer though
[03:47] <bob2> rickie: sorry it doesn't work for you, but please realise yo're in a small minority
[03:47] <melostalgic> well i am a new linux user so i don't really know anything about it.
[03:47] <Nige> gus type in smbtree
[03:47] <bob2> rickie: try asking on the user list; if that doesn't work, and no one else has, please do file a bug
[03:47] <Nige> can you see anything after you do that?
[03:47] <melostalgic> i started out with fc3 and had no sound at all.
[03:48] <ivoks> ;...(
[03:48] <xMaximex> Why can't i install beep media, xine-ui, totem-xine and many others app with a fresh install of ubuntu ? Before i reinstall i was able to install them without any modification to the original sources.list
[03:48] <Gus__> Nige, it asks me for a password, but i dunno which password it is expecting
[03:48] <jeroen_> cursed_sword, Opera is just the best browser out there. It's not free though, so I won't use it :)
[03:48] <Ng> it is quite staggering that in 2005 most soundchips still can't do hardware mixing :/
[03:48] <ram_einstein> melostalgic, yeah there are some problems with sound in fc3
[03:48] <melostalgic> so i was referred to ubuntu and afer getting it installed and seeing everything was working, i was quite pleased. then later i have no sound, after not changing anything in the config at all.
[03:48] <Nige> well put the root password in:)
[03:48] <Nige> that would do i think
[03:49] <erUSUL> Gus__, your user password
[03:49] <Gus__> Nige, i did, then it just stops and goes back to the $
[03:49] <Gus__> no error message, no other message, nothing
[03:49] <HappyFool> no, i think try no password. that's an smb password, not a linux password
[03:49] <bob2> xMaximex: you could never get them with the default sources.list
[03:49] <bob2> xMaximex: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:50] <Gus__> HappyFool, whatever i type, it acts the same, as i've described
[03:50] <Gus__> encouraging ^^
[03:50] <HappyFool> Gus__: try smbtree -U <windowsusername>, then enter your windows password at the prompt
[03:50] <Gus__> same ^^
[03:50] <HappyFool> Gus__: you should, i think, be seeing your own (linux) machine's shares
[03:50] <Gus__> i'm definitely not
[03:51] <Gus__> however, i can see my shares from the XP machine so they most definitely work
[03:51] <Nige> hmmm
[03:51] <Nige> well
[03:51] <Nige> i think that your smb.conf maybe wrong
[03:51] <cursed_sword> Regarding updates to rpm/deb whatever regardless of distribution, has anyone pondered the possibility of creating a torrent like system for synaptic or apt instead of basing all updates on a few mirrors which is expensive for the people who run them?
[03:51] <Nige> you should be able to see the shares with smbtree
[03:51] <Gus__> Nige, that's very possible: how do i fix it ? =)
[03:52] <Gus__> erase it, reinstall samba, rewrite it ?
[03:52] <xMaximex> bob2: that' doesn't tell me what to add in sources.list
[03:52] <bob2> cursed_sword: torrents for such tiny files aren't very useful
[03:52] <bob2> xMaximex: you don't need to add anything
[03:52] <jeroen_> cursed_sword, most of these files are very small
[03:52] <bob2> xMaximex: you need to read it and uncomment the lines it tells you to
[03:52] <HappyFool> Gus__: rather put it up at a pastebin and let us look at it
[03:52] <xMaximex> ok
[03:52] <bob2> cursed_sword: there're torrents for the cds and dvs, tho
[03:52] <cursed_sword> bob2 those tiny files add up when thousands of people are downloading
[03:52] <Gus__> HappyFool,  yeah i will do that
[03:53] <cursed_sword> bob2, also consider not just updates but for the entire servers/mirrors contents of software
[03:53] <bob2> cursed_sword: sure, but how many people will want to leave synaptic open to share a 100KB package?
[03:53] <bob2> cursed_sword: rsync is more efficient than bittorrent for syncing mirrors
[03:53] <Gus__> what's the url please ?
[03:53] <Gus__> pastebin.com ?
[03:53] <HappyFool> http://rafb.net/paste/ is one
[03:53] <jeroen_> Gus__, yes
[03:53] <cursed_sword> bob2 thousands of people are downloading around the world at any time
[03:53] <Gus__> pastebin.com doesn't work though =/
[03:53] <cursed_sword> bob, really
[03:53] <bob2> cursed_sword: sure
[03:54] <Nige> your using debian
[03:54] <Nige> well
[03:54] <Nige> ubuntu
[03:54] <Nige> like debian
[03:54] <Nige> :)
[03:54] <bob2> cursed_sword: bear in mind, too, that archive.ubuntu.com has more bandwidth than jeebus ;)
[03:54] <thoreauputic> Gus__: use pastebin.ca
[03:54] <Nige> so apt-get install smbclient
[03:54] <Nige> that will give you the clients
[03:54] <Gus__> thoreauputic, thanks, i've used HappyFool 's url
[03:54] <thoreauputic> Gus__: OK :)
[03:54] <cursed_sword> bob2 I brainstorm on how to reduce costs
[03:54] <pmjdebruijn> anybody have trouble installing this: libxml-parser-perl_2.34-4_i386.deb
[03:54] <bob2> sure
[03:54] <Nige> alternatively
[03:54] <Nige> if you have the gui
[03:55] <Nige> in the title bar
[03:55] <Nige> or address bar
[03:55] <Nige> type
[03:55] <bob2> cursed_sword: it's a good thought experiment, but no one has implemented it yet (and it does seem like it won't help that much)
[03:55] <Nige> smb://ipaddresswinxpbox
[03:55] <Gus__> Nige, bob told me to uninstall SWAT, so i did that =)
[03:55] <bob2> hah, I said to ignore it
[03:55] <HappyFool> Gus__: no, that's in nautilus
[03:55] <Gus__> bob2, =P
[03:55] <cursed_sword> bob2, perhaps we need an official think tank in the linux community
[03:56] <Gus__> ok, to ignore it
[03:56] <Nige> indeed
[03:56] <Nige> in nautliss
[03:56] <Gus__> Nige, smbclient is installed
[03:56] <Nige> awesome :)
[03:56] <Nige> you might beable to see the shares:)
[03:56] <Nige> if you can see em
[03:56] <Nige> you know it works
[03:56] <zth__> how can i setup SDL?
[03:56] <Gus__> HappyFool, what is in nautilus ? i didn't understand
[03:56] <bob2> cursed_sword: there's plenty of ideas out there, but people are far too willing to propose things without implementing or testing them
[03:56] <Nige> okay
[03:56] <Gus__> Nige, i meant: smbclients were already installed
[03:56] <bob2> zth__: you don't need to set it up
[03:56] <Nige> when you open up nautilss
[03:56] <Nige> okay
[03:56] <Gus__> Nige, that's less awesome, right ? ;)
[03:56] <HappyFool> Gus__: the smb:// thing that Nige mentioned
[03:56] <Nige> lol
[03:56] <Nige> naah
[03:56] <zth__> bob2, i need it to run by ALSA
[03:56] <cursed_sword> bob2 true
[03:56] <Nige> :)
[03:57] <Gus__> HappyFool, oh ok
[03:57] <Nige> use the ip address
[03:57] <danwood> <<<<< ubuntu newbie with a totem problem....
[03:57] <nalioth> pmjdebruijn: have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[03:57] <Nige> cause i dont think you put the ipaddress in host file did you
[03:57] <HappyFool> hey, smb:// works in firefox too. neat
[03:57] <TokenBad> erUSUL, I can't do help about..it will not even load..cause it says the oss is already being used
[03:57] <Nige> /etc/host
[03:57] <Gus__> nautilus asks me to log in
[03:57] <Nige> really
[03:57] <Nige> i didnt know that
[03:57] <Nige> ahh okay
[03:57] <Nige> awesome
[03:57] <Nige> your windows shares are a problem
[03:57] <Nige> brb
[03:57] <Nige> tell you the share permissions you need
[03:57] <Gus__> okay
[03:57] <Nige> 1 tick
[03:58] <voth> anyone have any ideas as to why i am no longer able to print, odd as it is i can still print a test page and that's it.
[03:58] <aleksander> any one who know what vnc server to ubuntu is named???
[03:58] <Seveas> albacker, vino
[03:58] <Gus__> thing is: these sharings worked when i accessed them from another XP
[03:58] <aleksander> or must i donwload?
[03:58] <Gus__> aleksander, vncviewer or xvncviewer
[03:58] <Gus__> it's already installed i think
[03:58] <albacker> Seveas, ??
[03:58] <Seveas> aleksander, the vnc server is standard installed
[03:58] <aleksander> thats is viewer
[03:58] <Seveas> albacker, sorry, <tab> completion error
[03:58] <Gus__> sorry i misread =)
[03:59] <aleksander> where do i forund, seveas?
[03:59] <erUSUL> TokenBad, do killall esd
[03:59] <aleksander> found*
[03:59] <Nige> okay try
[03:59] <Seveas> albacker, system->preferences->remote desktop
[03:59] <erUSUL> TokenBad, and try after that
[03:59] <nalioth> aleksander: use synaptic and search for vnc
[03:59] <TokenBad> I already tried that
[03:59] <nalioth> aleksander: you'll find many vnc things there
[03:59] <aleksander> ok
[03:59] <HappyFool> Gus__: btw, one usually pastes the url in channel after using a paste-bin (unless i missed it ;)
[03:59] <danwood> anyone help with totem on a clean install of ubuntu.... it won't run, and I can't fix it...
[03:59] <Nige> in windows explorer goto -> tools->folder options ->view
[03:59] <albacker> Seveas, ok ;)
[03:59] <albacker> Seveas, no problem =)
[04:00] <Gus__> HappyFool, sorry, i thought you'd find it by username, that's how they did last (and only) time i used it
[04:00] <Nige> then goto the bottom
[04:00] <HappyFool> Gus__: yeah i found it
[04:00] <nalioth> aleksander: once you find the name of the vnc server in synaptic, you can open a terminal and type the command
[04:00] <HappyFool> Gus__: i think that domain logons is not desired
[04:00] <Nige> of the list and untick simple filesharing (it doesnt work)
[04:00] <Gus__> HappyFool, sorry about that, i'm really not used to asking for help, always could figure out everything using windows =)
[04:00] <Nige> then click okay
[04:00] <HappyFool> Nige: standby - take a look here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/agrXaN67.html
[04:00] <aleksander> nalioth, how do i run synaptic in super user?
[04:00] <lynx> Does anybody knows where can I download Alienware theme for linux
[04:00] <weedar> I have a computer with a wifi-card I'm able to ping with (ndiswrapper) and a wired-NIC. I can ssh into the computer via the wired NIC, but not if I disconnect it and try to use the wlan0 IP? Any suggestions?
[04:01] <lynx> hello
[04:01] <Gus__> Nige, done, now i try again in nautilus
[04:01] <Nige> hmm okay
[04:01] <Nige> hang on
[04:01] <aleksander> lynx, why are you named lynx?
[04:01] <MegaManX> hi all! Can somebody recommend an application to create playable VCD's and DVD's for Linux/Ubuntu?. I've been trying gnomebaker, it's nice and can create playable audio disks, but I really want DVD and VCD's :)
[04:01] <Nige> that config file is only for local though
[04:01] <Nige> :
[04:01] <Nige> shouldnt make a differeance if he is trying to access remote xp shares
[04:01] <Nige> :)
[04:01] <nalioth> aleksander: system > administration > synaptic package mangler
[04:02] <HappyFool> Nige: so that domain logons = yes shouldn't matter ?
[04:02] <lynx> If you tell me where I can download the theme I tell you Why I use Lynx
[04:02] <Nige> it would matter if it was an xp box trying to hit the  linux share
[04:02] <Gus__> i do think i should take that "domain" stuff out, but i don't think it should matter for a "linux access to XP" stuff
[04:02] <HappyFool> Nige: according to man smb.conf, samba is now acting as a win95/98 logon server
[04:02] <Nige> hmm
[04:02] <aleksander> lynx, do you use a lynx pc?
[04:02] <nalioth> MegaManX: you can find all kinds of wonderful stuff at sourceforge.net (it has a search function)
[04:02] <Nige> so all he needs is the username and password
[04:02] <danwood> i think my totem problem may be video related but don't know how to troubleshoot.... xvinfo shows no adapters... is that right?
[04:02] <Nige> but i figured since is as workgroup
[04:03] <Nige> it shouldnt ask for the domain
[04:03] <Nige> but turn domain logon off :)
[04:03] <MegaManX> nalioth, thanks mate, I'll take a look ;)
[04:03] <Nige> that might help some
[04:03] <Gus__> how do i ?
[04:03] <TokenBad> ok I got totem working now..but it will not play the file..and the file is in divx
[04:03] <nalioth> aleksander: or you could just "sudo synaptic" from a terminal
[04:03] <Gus__> oh ok
[04:03] <Gus__> just No
[04:03] <Gus__> =)
[04:03] <lynx> I got a box, but that is not the reason
[04:03] <aleksander> ok
[04:03] <HappyFool> Gus__: don't forget to restart samba
[04:03] <Gus__> yup
[04:03] <Gus__> i have to find the command though
[04:04] <ram_einstein> my flashplayer-mozilla doesn't work very well- no sound and here's a screenshot of what happens when I click on settings: http://img85.echo.cx/img85/9087/flashplayermozilla3ib.png
[04:04] <aleksander> lynx???????
[04:04] <Gus__> a simple "samba restart" could be handy ^^
[04:04] <GhettoFish> Anyone got any ideas why i don't have any sound in VLC when i have it in mplayer?
[04:04] <lynx> Alienware theme anybody
[04:04] <aleksander> do you use a lynx pc?
[04:04] <lynx> yes
[04:04] <ram_einstein> something seriously wrong
[04:04] <aleksander> me too!
[04:04] <lynx> cool
[04:04] <dv8> hi guys, i just isntalled ubuntu for the first time and i was wondering if it is possible to have dropshadows under the desktop icon's text?
[04:04] <aleksander> who country?
[04:04] <HappyFool> Gus__: sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart
[04:04] <aleksander> lynx, counrty?
[04:04] <lynx> but Lynx have another congnotation
[04:04] <Seveas> ram_einstein, look at the HoarySoundProblems (oslt) wikipage
[04:04] <lynx> usa
[04:04] <ram_einstein> I just did a apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[04:04] <Gus__> HappyFool, thanks a lot =P
[04:04] <aegr> http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[04:04] <aleksander> ok, i live i norway...
[04:05] <Gus__> done, trying again now
[04:05] <danwood> can anyone help me to get totem to work?
[04:05] <Nige> okay
[04:05] <aleksander> but is'nt lynx norwegian?
[04:05] <dv8> danwood: what is wrong with your totem ?
[04:05] <lynx> where are you
[04:05] <aleksander> a firm called "respons"
[04:05] <danwood> it tries to start and then exits with 'resource busy or not available'
[04:05] <Gus__> Nige, HappyFool that changes nothing
[04:05] <aleksander> brb, food :P
[04:05] <ram_einstein> one sec Seveas
[04:06] <aleksander> i have birtday to dag :P
[04:06] <danwood> clean ubuntu install....
[04:06] <Nige> well did you try using the smb:// i your broser ?
[04:06] <danwood> think it's video card problem as xvinfo shows no adapter present.... is that normal?
[04:06] <erUSUL> TokenBad, try this comand; $ lsof | grep pcm
[04:06] <Gus__> Nige, i tried in nautilus, will try in FF
[04:06] <HappyFool> if it doesn't work in one, i doubt it will in the other
[04:07] <dv8> danwood: i dont think it's normal
[04:07] <Gus__> does nothing, blank page
[04:07] <dv8> danwood: but i dont know what could be the problem
[04:07] <HappyFool> Gus__: nige pasted some stuff re 'simple file sharing' earlier, as well, before i butted in
[04:07] <ram_einstein> Seveas, could you link me to the page? I can't find it
[04:07] <Gus__> doesn't even ask for a pass this time
[04:07] <danwood> me too :(
[04:07] <Rugmonster> good morning all
[04:07] <Gus__> HappyFool, i did do the "uncheck simple file sharing" bit
[04:07] <Nige> yer
[04:08] <Nige> but you need to set dual permissions on a share :)
[04:08] <Gus__> changed nothing though, but maybe i should reboot the XP box
[04:08] <melostalgic> if i read on how to make sound properly work in gnome, is it going to do me any good with ubuntu?
[04:08] <Nige> naaah
[04:08] <Nige> dont do that
[04:08] <Nige> xp wont need it
[04:08] <Gus__> Nige,  i don't know what you mean by that, never EVER had to worry about that before =/
[04:08] <Nige> you need to set "local permissions" tne Share permissions
[04:08] <Gus__> sometimes on networks, XP does need it ^^
[04:08] <cursed_sword> I recommend formatting XP boxes
[04:08] <Nige> yer i know
[04:08] <Gus__> Nige, what i mean is: i don't know how to do that =P
[04:08] <Nige> lol
[04:08] <AvvY> how do i forcequit?
[04:08] <Nige> okay
[04:08] <Nige> well then you right click a folder to share
[04:08] <cursed_sword> then it's one less person who talks about xp
[04:08] <nalioth> cursed_sword: you mean with ext3 or reiserfs? heh heh
[04:08] <Nige> you should have a tab called sharing
[04:08] <ram_einstein> AvvY, use the applet on gnome panel
[04:09] <nalioth> AvvY: unplug the box?
[04:09] <ram_einstein> easiest way
[04:09] <Nige> and on the sharing page ther should be one called permissions
[04:09] <AvvY> im using xfce4
[04:09] <ram_einstein> or kill guid
[04:09] <Nige> and there should be a permissions tab as well on the sharing tab
[04:09] <ram_einstein> ah.. use kill
[04:09] <Gus__> Nige, ok
[04:09] <Nige> i know this makes little sense doesnt it :>
[04:09] <danwood> how can i change my video drivers? i'm trying to get totem to start and think it is a video problem...
[04:09] <Gus__> never had acces to that since i used the "simple" thing
[04:09] <Rugmonster> hey guys, I'm getting desperate. I'm trying to load the latest ATI drivers (8.14.13) and I get it installed, but when I modprobe it, I get No such device. Any suggestions?
[04:09] <ram_einstein> kill -9 processid
[04:09] <Nige> i know
[04:09] <Nige> :)
[04:10] <nalioth> Rugmonster: use vesa
[04:10] <Rugmonster> yeah yeah, no
[04:10] <VEG> hi
[04:10] <Nige> set the everyone permission on the local files to read only
[04:10] <Nige> set the everyone group on sharing tab to full control
[04:10] <Nige> that should short out your share
[04:10] <ram_einstein> Seveas? you there?
[04:10] <Nige> btw can you ping your winxp box?
[04:10] <Gus__> Nige, i put "full control"
[04:10] <cursed_sword> I can sledgehammer an winxp box
[04:11] <Gus__> sorry if i'm a bit slow, it is a french version so i have to match the translations ;)
[04:11] <Gus__> hehe cursed_sword  =)
[04:11] <Gus__> Nige, i'm pinging it perfectly
[04:11] <Nige> okay
[04:11] <Nige> okay
[04:11] <Nige> now try getting to your share
[04:11] <Nige> :)
[04:11] <Gus__> "you must login to access <IP_ADDRESS>"
[04:11] <Nige> you dont have any firewalls running do you?
[04:11] <Nige> okay
[04:11] <Nige> hmm
[04:12] <Nige> i have seen this before
[04:12] <Nige> lemme think
[04:12] <ram_einstein> please help! with my mozilla-flashplayer problem, here's the screenshot: http://img85.echo.cx/img85/9087/flashplayermozilla3ib.png
[04:12] <ram_einstein> settings
[04:12] <Shadowpillar> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: MD5Sum mismatch
[04:12] <voth> can someone help me setup CUPS as my default printing system
[04:12] <cursed_sword> do sperm communicate?
[04:12] <VEG> In ubuntu GNOME is default graphical interface?
[04:12] <Shadowpillar> anyone know if marillat got compromised?
[04:12] <nalioth> VEG: yes
[04:13] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: lots of repos are showing the md5 error the last few days
[04:13] <ram_einstein> shadeland, need a faster connection perhaps?
[04:13] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: don't use Marillat - it's out of sync with Hoary now
[04:13] <HappyFool> ram_einstein: yeah, i had the same thing. i'm afraid i just left it ;)
[04:13] <ram_einstein> VEG, it's a desktip
[04:13] <ram_einstein> HappyFool, :(
[04:13] <Shadowpillar> thoreauputic: what do I use in its place?
[04:13] <cursed_sword> Shadowpillar I'd run tcpdump for awhile and note any unusual behavior
[04:14] <VEG> Now i download this thing
[04:14] <ram_einstein> nobody else has this problem?
[04:14] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: for which packges?
[04:14] <ram_einstein> HappyFool, no flashplayer then?
[04:14] <SigNagE> hey, can anyone help me out with a problem. I recently installed Ubundtu and tried my wireless network card with it (it claims to work but it doesnt seem to). Itc a dlink-dwl-520+ (ACX100). Someone linked me to the sourceforge drivers, i put them on my linux box but have absolutely no idea what to do with them :/
[04:14] <Shadowpillar> thoreauputic: repository wise
[04:14] <HappyFool> ram_einstein: i think flash worked, i just couldn't tweak the settings
[04:14] <ram_einstein> no sound on my flashplayer either
[04:14] <cursed_sword> Shadowpillar what made you curious about this?
[04:14] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: I don't use Marillat except to get codecs
[04:14] <cursed_sword> Shadowpillar did you notice anything in particular?
[04:14] <HappyFool> ram_einstein: that was on warty - haven't bothered installing it on hoary
[04:14] <ram_einstein> did you have sound?
[04:14] <Shadowpillar> cursed_sword: read up
[04:14] <ram_einstein> I have hoary
[04:15] <ram_einstein> running 5.04
[04:15] <cursed_sword> Shadowpillar have you e-mailed the maintainer with your concern?
[04:15] <Shadowpillar> NO
[04:15] <HappyFool> ram_einstein: umm *thinks* i think so
[04:15] <Shadowpillar> READ UP
 ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: MD5Sum mismatch
 anyone know if marillat got compromised?
[04:15] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: the horns are starting to show.. ..
[04:15] <cursed_sword> Shadowpillar the maintainer would be the one to ask AFAIC
[04:15] <Shadowpillar> I didnt download shit
[04:15] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: what pkg are you after particularlY?
[04:16] <Shadowpillar> none
[04:16] <ram_einstein> hell, all my other sounds work fine...
[04:16] <Shadowpillar> I've had marillat in my rep list for a while
[04:16] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: recommand ubuntu binary repos only
[04:16] <Shadowpillar> I get this today
[04:16] <cursed_sword> Shadowpillar why are you answering my questions with previous statements? I'm not a retard
[04:16] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: then skip marillat and use other sources for stuff
[04:16] <VEG> Ubuntu live CD better that Knoppix?
[04:16] <nalioth> as thoreauputic said, they're on another sheet of music lately
[04:16] <ram_einstein> except that ubuntu seems to use the system sound oddly often.. the mbd sound sans speaker
[04:16] <VEG> Sorry for my English
[04:17] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: i believe backports have w32codecs, but I haven't checked
[04:17] <Gus__> VEG, from what i've heard, Knoppix is better for LiveCD
[04:17] <ram_einstein> thoreauputic, they do
[04:17] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: there are other ways as well
[04:17] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: or you could get them from mplayerhq (the website)
[04:17] <Gus__> Ubuntu LiveCD is designed as a test, or to get used to Ubuntu, not to use for a long time
[04:17] <Shadowpillar> what?
[04:17] <Shadowpillar> no
[04:18] <Shadowpillar> I have them already
[04:18] <Gus__> i wouldn't use it for a long time... that's why i permanently installed it ;)
[04:18] <VEG> Gus__, thanks
[04:19] <VEG> lilo works with ubuntu?
[04:19] <VEG> I use windows too
[04:19] <Shadowpillar> I never said I needed them, I was saying, I have always had marillat in my rep list, I was not asking about one of my packages being compromised or rootkitting me, I wasnt asking about the w32codecs, I was asking if anyone knew if the repository had been compromised because when updating, it had an md5sum mismatch
[04:19] <Gus__> i have a dual boot using GRUB
[04:19] <ram_einstein> do your ubuntu systems produce motherboard sounds a little too often? like everytime on the console autocomplete, everytime a new mail arrives on evolution...?
[04:19] <nalioth> VEG: lilo or grub, your choice
[04:19] <Gus__> i don't know about lilo, but GRUB works fine
[04:19] <VEG> ok
[04:19] <ram_einstein> I like grub
[04:19] <ram_einstein> it works nicely
[04:20] <ram_einstein> easy too
[04:20] <ram_einstein> don't use lilo
[04:20] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: as thoreauputic said, they're on another sheet of music lately
[04:20] <Gus__> i don't see what can be so different about bootmanagers though ^^
[04:20] <nalioth> Gus__: "a little too often" is subjective
[04:20] <SigNagE> hey, can anyone help me out with a problem. I recently installed Ubundtu and tried my wireless network card with it (it claims to work but it doesnt seem to). Itc a dlink-dwl-520+ (ACX100). Someone linked me to the sourceforge drivers, i put them on my linux box but have absolutely no idea what to do with them :/
[04:20] <Shadowpillar> thoreauputic: backports
[04:20] <cursed_sword> Shadowpillar if no one here can satisfy you with an answer, then my best suggestion is to express your concerns with the maintainer of the server(s) in question, how is that difficult to understand? Why continue to repeat yourself so others have to repeat their answers to you?  I WAS JUST ASKING A FUCKING QUESTION.
[04:22] <HappyFool> Gus__: no luck yet ?
[04:22] <thoreauputic> cursed_sword: no need for that stuff
[04:22] <nalioth> ram_einstein: "a little too often" is subjective
[04:22] <cursed_sword> thoreauputic so he can repeat the questions and his previous statements and that doesn't violate a code of conduct?
[04:22] <Shadowpillar> not starting arguments here, I was asking one god damned question
[04:22] <cursed_sword> Shadowpillar you offend me, bye
[04:23] <Shadowpillar> zomg I offend him, someone call out the damn national guard.
[04:23] <rickie> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=209613 =)
[04:23] <Gus__> HappyFool, no =/ i'm PM'ing Nige to see if he has any more ideas =/
[04:23] <Shadowpillar> now then.
[04:23] <ram_einstein> okay, does your ubuntu sysem produce system sounds at all?
[04:23] <HappyFool> Gus__: ok, let me know what the fix is
[04:23] <thoreauputic> cursed_sword: I suggest you read the code of conduct and see the bits about respect and politeness
[04:23] <Shadowpillar> thoreauputic: what are the backports
[04:23] <dirk_> Hello SigNagE  try ndiswrapper it works great
[04:23] <ram_einstein> like when new mail arrives on evolutiom?
[04:23] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: he was practicing for his troll degree
[04:23] <Gus__> HappyFool, if i ever find it... ;)
[04:23] <ram_einstein> *evolution
[04:23] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: some people have made some packages available that aren't yet in Hoary
[04:24] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: backports lack quality control and can break your systems ability to upgrade
[04:24] <ram_einstein> even though my speakers work fine, ubuntu seems to use the system sound
[04:24] <Hajuu> hey
[04:24] <ram_einstein> why?
[04:24] <Hajuu> how can I force my cdrom to eject?
[04:24] <thoreauputic> or are not suitable for Ubuntu for legal/ philosophical reasons
[04:24] <ram_einstein> nalioth?
[04:24] <ram_einstein> Hajuu, right-click eject on gnome 2.8+
[04:24] <Shadowpillar> I'm surprised w32 codecs arent in universe
[04:24] <ram_einstein> desktop icon
[04:24] <nalioth> ram_einstein: yes?
[04:25] <david_> what's this whole bit of people's sound not working in Hoary?
[04:25] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: legal issues
[04:25] <Shadowpillar> this is one huge drawback to debian systems
[04:25] <Gus__> about this eject thing, it is REALLY frustrating that it locks the cdrom tray =/
[04:25] <Hajuu> No how do I force it to eject.. it says it can not be ejected at this time
[04:25] <Shadowpillar> easy to break, and you can only (safely) get your packages from one selected controlled source, not in the repository? you cant use that app
[04:25] <Shadowpillar> :/
[04:25] <willsky> excuse me
[04:25] <ram_einstein> nalioth, system sounds... does your ubuntu produce them? the ones from the motherbord without using speakers?
[04:25] <Shadowpillar> otherwise, it's good
[04:25] <willsky> how can i install java in firefox through apt-get
[04:26] <willsky> ?
[04:26] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: not quite huge - more an inconvenience I'd say :)
[04:26] <ram_einstein> I gave examples already
[04:26] <nalioth> ram_einstein: you mean system beeps? i dont know, i run an iBook
[04:26] <ram_einstein> willsky, yes
[04:26] <nalioth> ram_einstein: my nautilus and other proggys click and whirr all the time when they do something
[04:26] <Pixel83> willsky, sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[04:26] <willsky> j2re
[04:26] <willsky> ok
[04:26] <willsky> i read something about the j2sdk
[04:27] <willsky> what is it?
[04:27] <Pixel83> did that yesterday
[04:27] <voth> can someone help me setup CUPS as my default printing system
[04:27] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: if you think Debian is easy to break, you live in an aternative universe ;)
[04:27] <zth__> how can i make SDL use ALSA instead of OSS?
[04:27] <nalioth> willsky: go to the ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ and look at 'installling java"
[04:27] <Hajuu> So.. anybody know how to force my cdrom to eject?
[04:28] <Pixel83> willsky, or was it j2se? i'm not shure, try both.
[04:28] <Shadowpillar> thoreauputic: apt-get wise it's easy to break
[04:28] <willsky> ok
[04:28] <thoreauputic> nonsense
[04:28] <willsky> i'll try
[04:28] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: apt-get is a pillar of strength
[04:28] <aleksander> how to start vnc-common???
[04:28] <thoreauputic> I know from experience
[04:29] <aleksander> or what us the name to vnc server?
[04:29] <nalioth> thoreauputic: think Shadowpillar is askin about using marillat and backports via apt
[04:29] <Pixel83> Hajuu, did that a few minuts ago with "sudo umount /media/cdrom"
[04:29] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: it's a question of understanding how the system works
[04:29] <Pixel83> and then the button worked.
[04:29] <SigNagE> hey, can anyone help me out with a problem. I recently installed Ubundtu and tried my wireless network card with it (it claims to work but it doesnt seem to). Itc a dlink-dwl-520+ (ACX100). Someone linked me to the sourceforge drivers, i put them on my linux box but have absolutely no idea what to do with them :/
[04:29] <Hajuu> Pixel83: I tried that. Even tried sudo umount -f /media/cdrom... still just says its busy
[04:29] <aleksander> nalioth, how can i start vnc-common?
[04:30] <Shadowpillar> Pixel83: it locks the cdrom drives to prevent removal of media without unmounting so the system doesn't give you some nasty surprise
[04:30] <HappyFool> Hajuu: try 'lsof /media/cdrom' and 'lsof /media/cdrom0' to find out what's accessing the drive
[04:30] <thoreauputic> nalioth: if one chooses to use 3rd party repos, he needs to know the ways that this can affect the OS
[04:30] <david_> question: how can i search the universe repository?
[04:30] <Pixel83> Hajuu, strange.
[04:30] <nalioth> aleksander: have you tried "man vnc" in your terminal (i don't know)
[04:30] <IRCMonkey> Hallo,.can anyone help with an installation prob , ubuntu hoary hedgehog?
[04:30] <Pixel83> IRCMonkey, yes, speak.
[04:30] <HappyFool> thoreauputic: maybe then we need to ask ubuntuguide and others to emphasize the risks when recommending adding third party repo's
[04:30] <nalioth> thoreauputic: and that is what he was askin about (ie break the system) i think
[04:31] <Pixel83> IRCMonkey, (i at least hope i can)
[04:31] <aleksander> nalioth, "no manual for vnc"
[04:31] <nalioth> aleksander: hang on a minim
[04:31] <IRCMonkey> I was able to install the whole thing, but when i want to register, gnome won't start
[04:31] <aleksander> ok
[04:31] <Shadowpillar> thoreauputic: I have a good understanding, luckily synaptic usually says "WHOA! CANT FIND THESE DEPS, not installing"
[04:31] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: yes I agree, and nalioth the point I was making was that if you  decide to use backports etc, do your homework first
[04:32] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: yes, true mostly :)
[04:32] <Pixel83> IRCMonkey, what do you mean with register?
[04:32] <IRCMonkey> when i want to log in as the user I meant
[04:33] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: yeah, it's OK if you know what's happening: we see a lot of people who don't, unfortunately :)
[04:33] <Pixel83> IRCMonkey, what DOES gnome do then?
[04:33] <nalioth> aleksander: put this in your browser   file:///usr/share/doc/vnc-common/start.html
[04:33] <aleksander> tanks
[04:34] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: i like using apt to compile from source, myself
[04:34] <IRCMonkey> It doesn't show me the splash, screen, all I see is the mouse cursor, the rest doesn't appear
[04:35] <IRCMonkey> It hangs up
[04:35] <Gus__> HappyFool, well, the only solution i have found is to connect to the XP box using vncviewer, and then do my file managing from there...
[04:35] <spiral> hmmm, how is breezy nowadays ? still broken ?
[04:35] <nalioth> spiral: like a dropped window
[04:36] <Seveas> spiral, look at the topic :)
[04:36] <Pixel83> IRCMonkey, have you tried typing your login blindly? that's whate I'd try first?
[04:37] <IRCMonkey> what do u mean blindly?
[04:37] <Pixel83> IRCMonkey, just acting as if you'd see a console login. type your nickname, Enter, password, enter
[04:37] <SigNagE> hey, can anyone help me out with a problem. I recently installed Ubundtu and tried my wireless network card with it (it claims to work but it doesnt seem to). Itc a dlink-dwl-520+ (ACX100). Someone linked me to the sourceforge drivers, i put them on my linux box but have absolutely no idea what to do with them :/
[04:38] <Pixel83> IRCMonkey, I've got no idea if it works, I'm not a very experienced user...
[04:38] <HappyFool> Gus__: hmm. not optimal
[04:38] <erUSUL> IRCMonkey, press Crtl+Alt - Fn to get to a console and log in there
[04:38] <TokenBad> how do I turn ident on in ubuntu when online?
[04:38] <HappyFool> Gus__: usually this works without hassles
[04:38] <spiral> Seveas: yes, I read the topic, but a few days ago, it said PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DON'T...
[04:38] <Seveas> TokenBad, sudo aptitude install pidentd
[04:39] <spiral> and now it only says PLEASE...
[04:39] <IRCMonkey> Yes and that's as far as it goes, after that it hangs and the cooler fan runs bumpy
[04:39] <spiral> so I wanted to know if the situation had improved a bit
[04:39] <Seveas> spiral, yeah, I changed that because it takes up too much space
[04:39] <Gus__> HappyFool, very, very far from optimal indeed =D i guess i'm doing something wrong, but i really don't see where...
[04:39] <Seveas> but it's still broken
[04:39] <Seveas> although the broken-ness is slowly getting less
[04:39] <spiral> Seveas: lol... all right
[04:40] <spiral> so I'll wait a bit
[04:40] <TokenBad> thanks Seveas
[04:40] <Pixel83> IRCMonkey, so you can't even switch to console by Ctrl-Alt-F1 for example?
[04:40] <nalioth> spiral: wait for "release candidate"
[04:40] <bob_> is there something equivalent to gnutella or kazaa for linux?
[04:40] <nalioth> bob_: gtk-gnutella
[04:40] <spiral> nalioth: all right... I'll miss sid...
[04:40] <bob_> tks
[04:40] <IRCMonkey> I can start a console alright
[04:42] <Pixel83> IRCMonkey, that's good. Now did you try a blind login on Ctrl-Alt-F7 ?
[04:43] <Gus__> anyone knows how to record a streaming video files ? i'd like to be able to watch the news in one time, instead of having to wait for the buffer every 30 seconds o.O
[04:43] <_kevin> how do i format a harddrive to specific format
[04:43] <IRCMonkey> No,I will in a sec though, I just saw somethng , When booting: temporary failure in name resolution
[04:44] <david_> Can somebody help me with installing media codecs?
[04:44] <nalioth> Gus__: mimms
[04:44] <nalioth> Gus__: that will work for microslut asf format
[04:45] <Gus__> nalioth, thanks, i've tried it but it didn't seem to work well... isn't there an interface a bit more graphical ?
[04:45] <Gus__> hehe yeah, unfortunately most of the news are asf or wmv
[04:45] <Pixel83> david_, www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:45] <nalioth> Gus__: i think you're stuck with CLI on the video stream d/l agents
[04:45] <Gus__> what is CLI ?
[04:45] <nalioth> Gus__: command line interface
[04:45] <Gus__> hehehe
[04:45] <Gus__> okay
[04:45] <erUSUL> _kevin, mkfs -t [fstype]  /dev/[partition]
[04:46] <david_> pixel, i tried that, and when i do: sudo apt-get install w32codecs, it says could not find package
[04:46] <Gus__> well, it is an interface, and it uses graphics, so it will do =P
[04:46] <Gus__> thanks nalioth
[04:46] <Seveas> Pixel83, ubuntuguide is bad
[04:46] <bob2> it's not bad
[04:46] <Seveas> david_, if you install gstreamer0.8-mad, totem can play mp3
[04:46] <bob2> it's just a bit suboptimal on some points
[04:46] <Gus__> Seveas, what should we, clueless users, refer to then ? =D
[04:46] <Seveas> bob2, well, it contains lots of misinformation...
[04:46] <nalioth> david_: ya got universe and multiverse enabled?
[04:46] <Seveas> Gus__, the Ubuntu wiki
[04:47] <Gus__> Seveas, is it supposed to be flawless ? because i often get stuff not working in the wiki
[04:47] <IRCMonkey> pixel ican get to console
[04:47] <Seveas> bob2, and it has a "backports & marillat on by default" theme...
[04:47] <Gus__> like samba, it tells me to modify a window that doesn't appear, so... =)
[04:47] <nalioth> bob_: i agree, ubuntuguide doe have a bit of mininformation
[04:47] <david_> nalioth, guess not
[04:47] <stjepan> Is there any good IDEs like KDevelop and anjuta
[04:47] <stjepan> ?
[04:47] <we2by> I have a mp3 file, and if I encode it to mp4, does the quality change?
[04:47] <bob2> Seveas: yeah, that is silly
[04:47] <bob2> we2by: it gets worse, don't bother
[04:47] <nalioth> Gus__: a wiki can be improved by users, the ubuntuguide is static
[04:48] <IRCMonkey> Pixel?
[04:48] <we2by> bob2, how ocme?
[04:48] <we2by> isn't mp4 supose mean to be better quality?
[04:48] <flodine> can someone tell me is there something wrong with synaptic
[04:48] <david_> should i just uncomment all of the sources?
[04:48] <Gus__> nalioth, certainly, and i'm not especially keen on using the ubuntuguide. it's just that on a personal experience, i have found it easier to use the guide than the wiki. of course, if the guide is full of bad info, then it's not necessarily a good thing that it is more user-friendly =)
[04:48] <nalioth> we2by: you dont get good quality going from one compressed format to another
[04:48] <flodine> i cant even install pan newsreader
[04:48] <bob2> we2by: no
[04:49] <we2by> :(
[04:49] <bob2> we2by: mp3 has already thrown information away by compressing it, m4a will throw more, different information away
[04:49] <nalioth> we2by: mp4 is same/better quality at lower file size, but you need to start with the original audio file
[04:49] <we2by> so if I convert it to flac, it's the same>?
[04:49] <bob2> we2by: of course
[04:49] <bob2> we2by: the information is gone
[04:49] <bob2> we2by: if you want perfect quality, rip your cds straight to flac
[04:49] <nalioth> we2by: or to mp4 or whatever
[04:50] <Seveas> flodine, what's the error?
[04:50] <we2by> flac files are large, aren't they?
[04:50] <bob2> we2by: yes, about half the size of the original .wav files
[04:50] <stjepan> do you know?
[04:51] <HappyFool> heh. how much does zip or bzip2 compress a wav file ?
[04:51] <flodine> Seveas says some pakages could not be retrieved from server
[04:51] <bob2> HappyFool: very little
[04:51] <IRCMonkey> Can anyone help me with a gnome problem?
[04:51] <nalioth> HappyFool: bzip2 compresses the "eeek!" outta most everything
[04:51] <Seveas> flodine, can you paste the complete output of sudo apt-get install pan to ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[04:51] <HappyFool> bob2: interesting
[04:52] <Seveas> bob2, for wav compression helps more than very little
[04:52] <nalioth> HappyFool: bzip2 is the most compressing zipper i've seen
[04:52] <nalioth> HappyFool: but some things just don't compress
[04:52] <bob2> HappyFool: flac gets decent compression because it knows about the contents of the file (ie audio files aren't random binary goo)
[04:53] <flodine> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnet/libgnet2.0-0_2.0.4-1_i386.deb
[04:53] <bob2> flodine: don't use us.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:53] <Seveas> flodine, us.archive is buggy
[04:53] <Shish> lzma >>> bz2 :P Just no decent linux port yet :(
[04:53] <Seveas> flodine, sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:53] <flodine> take that oyt
[04:53] <flodine> out
[04:53] <bob2> lzma is unlikely to compress much better than bzip2
[04:54] <bob2> rzip is still the best general-purpose compressor I've heard of
[04:54] <bob2> Shish: 7zip is available for linux
[04:54] <Bryn_S> is there a channel for people wanting to test/bughunt Ubuntu?
[04:54] <thoreauputic> bob2: has anyone suggested that us.archive.ubuntu.com should be taken out of the loop until they can get their act together?
[04:55] <bob2> thoreauputic: yeah, it's a weekend tho :/
[04:55] <thoreauputic> bob2: ah, of course - fair enough
[04:55] <nalioth> Shish: huh?
[04:56] <nalioth> bob2: rzip? wow learn something new every day
[04:56] <Shish> nalioth: lzma (as used in 7-zip) has compressed the best for pretty much all the things I've tested on (comparing to bzip, gzip and winzip; I shal go and check out rzip)
[04:56] <DagaZ> ping dagaz.zapto.org
[04:56] <bob2> tridge is a smart dude
[04:56] <DagaZ> lol sorry
[04:57] <nalioth> Shish: so compiling 7zip doesnt work?
[04:57] <dimeo> did anyone else try upgrading firefox to 1.04 and totally have their system screwed up?
[04:57] <dimeo> I can't even load firefox now
[04:57] <thoreauputic> dimeo: how did you do it? backports?
[04:58] <_kevin> How i format my current ntfs parition and convert it to linux filesystem
[04:58] <nalioth> _kevin: you dont
[04:58] <Orunitia> dimeo: uninstall and reinstall?
[04:58] <Shish> The main 7zip code is very windows-specific, I only just found out there was a third party por
[04:58] <Shish> t
[04:58] <Seveas> Bryn_S, that'd be this channel...
[04:58] <Stew2> How do I insert '-V90=13S37=12' as an init string in a Lucent modem /dev/ttLTM0?
[04:58] <bob2> 39M 01.Seven_Years_ft._Natalie_Williams.flac
[04:58] <bob2> 51M 01.Seven_Years_ft._Natalie_Williams.wav
[04:58] <bob2> 49M 01.Seven_Years_ft._Natalie_Williams.wav.bz2
[04:58] <nalioth> _kevin: _kevin do you want to save any data?
[04:58] <bob2> just as a test
[04:58] <dimeo> I used synaptic update..(which didn't work) then uninstall and tried reinstall
[04:58] <_kevin> Nope
[04:58] <_kevin> I backed it all up already
[04:58] <Bryn_S> Seveas: ah, righto
[04:58] <nalioth> Shish: there is a linux version of 7zip at sourceforge
[04:58] <Bryn_S> I'd assumed this was just a support channel :)
[04:59] <dimeo> here's the error:  E: /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5_i386.deb:  short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libgfx_gtk.so')
[04:59] <Orunitia> Did you do a complete removal?
[04:59] <Shish> nalioth: it's also in universe :)
[04:59] <stjepan> :(
[04:59] <bob2> dimeo: the .deb is corrupt
[04:59] <nalioth> Shish: i have a bad (good) habit of compiling from src
[04:59] <Stew2> In order to get a reliable connection to my dialup provider, I need to insert an init string in my modem. PLEASE I want to stop using Windows 98!
[04:59] <Seveas> no wonder, it's from backports </rant>
[04:59] <bob2> Stew2: chill dude
[04:59] <dimeo> so I'm guessing I've got a repository listed that shouldn't be?
[04:59] <thoreauputic> dimeo: backports are bad news...
[04:59] <david_> what does this mean: E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[04:59] <david_> ?
[04:59] <HappyFool> bob2: interesting results (flac / bz2), thanks
[04:59] <bob2> Stew2: presumably adding it to the chat script is enough
[05:00] <nalioth> whats the command to make a filessystem?
[05:00] <Seveas> nalioth, mkfs
[05:00] <Stew2> bob2 Well, Dude, I've asked the question over the last day or so. No one seems to have an answer.
[05:00] <thoreauputic> david_: it means you don't have a repository containing w32codecs
[05:00] <Shish> mkfs.<filesystem> <device or image to write to>
[05:00] <Seveas> Stew2, have you tried other sources (ubuntu forom, mailing list, wiki)??
[05:00] <bob2> Stew2: so maybe you should ask on the list or something
[05:00] <_oDy_> hi all, rhythmbox says it has no plugin to handle mp3 files, where do I find the plugin and how do I enable it?
[05:00] <nalioth> _kevin: open a terminal and type "man mkfs"
[05:00] <david_> should i enable backports ot no?
[05:00] <dimeo> Any idea how I can get the old version reinstalled?  1.02 or whatever
[05:01] <Seveas> david_, no...
[05:01] <hunger> What do I need to do to get two sound streams working?
[05:01] <bob2> Stew2: there should be a chat script under /etc/ppp soewhere
[05:01] <bob2> hunger: make all your programs use esd or artsd
[05:01] <nalioth> _oDy_: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:01] <HappyFool> _oDy_: you can find out how get that working here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:01] <thoreauputic> _oDy_: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:01] <nickrud> Stew2, hi
[05:01] <Stew2> bob2 Chat script? It's using PAP I think. I dunno. I used the System, Administration, Networking applet to setup the dialup connection. Though right now I've been usiong Windows 98 because the connection is too unstable.
[05:01] <Stew2> nickrud Lo
[05:01] <thoreauputic> _oDy_: yes, read that URl first
[05:01] <bob2> Stew2: ok!
[05:01] <hunger> bob2: I got alsa.... that can handle this without those sucky sound servers.
[05:01] <_oDy_> thanks
[05:02] <bob2> hunger: so you setup dmix correctly already?
[05:02] <bob2> hunger: (no, default alsa cannot do simultaneous streams)
[05:02] <Thorrn4> hello all!!
[05:02] <bob2> Stew2: anyway, the correct file to edit is in that dir, but I can't remember which
[05:02] <flodine> ok guys i took out all the us.archive now theres no pan news reader
[05:02] <Stew2> bob2 I need to know how to do it before I reboot into Ubuntu so I can fix it correctly.
[05:02] <hunger> bob2: I dunno. I was hoping ubuntu had done that for me.
[05:02] <nalioth> Thorrn4: mornin
[05:02] <nickrud> Stew2, you used pppconfig to set up your modem?
[05:02] <david_> thoreauputic, will getting gstreamer work with rythm or only with totem?
[05:02] <bob2> flodine: so, you did the wrong thing
[05:02] <Stew2> bob2 I didn't use pppconfig. nickrud no.
[05:02] <bob2> hunger: nope
[05:02] <nalioth> flodine: not us.archive, jsut the us. prefix
[05:03] <bob2> Stew2: you should be using it then
[05:03] <thoreauputic> david_: both, for mp3
[05:03] <Thorrn4> morning nalioth....I'm not usually up this early....it just turned 11
[05:03] <nickrud> Stew2, oh, then
[05:03] <david_> thoreauputic, thanks, thats what i needed
[05:03] <Stew2> nickrud pon/poff complains about multiple copies of pppd running
[05:03] <nalioth> Thorrn4: <mutter>join the club</mutter>
[05:03] <thoreauputic> david_: I personally prefer xine/ totem-xine
[05:03] <bob2> Stew2: pppconfig has a simple option to add the string
[05:03] <Stew2> nickrud, bob2, I couldn't resolve the conflicts between pppconfig and the Networking Applet.
[05:03] <bob2> hunger: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:04] <bob2> Stew2: then ignore the networking applet
[05:04] <Thorrn4> atleast I slept with the AC on nalioth...I think that's what it is
[05:04] <Shadowpillar> I've found that fedora core 3 rpm's convert nicely into ubuntu deb's ;D
[05:04] <bob2> Shadowpillar: ew
[05:04] <Stew2> bob2, Yep. I want to use the networking applet though, so the modem indicator works on the task bar like it's designed to.
[05:04] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: yes, alien is useful at times
[05:04] <Shadowpillar> bob2: I wanted gqradio ;)
[05:04] <bob2> Stew2: right, that does sound more important than getting it to work at all
[05:05] <nalioth> Thorrn4: our a/c went out, so no sleep til monday
[05:05] <Shadowpillar> bob2: ubuntu didnt have it, and there was a fedora core 3 rpm, so, ;D
[05:05] <bob2> Stew2: if you use pppconfig and get it working and irc from ubuntu, it will be way easier to get it working for you
[05:05] <Stew2> bob2, nickrud, and now pon and poff say there's multiple copies of pppd running and they aren't happy with the setup. The networking applet still works, so I want to use that.  Poff still thinks I've got multiple copies of pppd running.
[05:06] <nickrud> Stew2, poff -a, then try pon
[05:06] <bob2> Stew2: do you have any copies of pppd running?
[05:06] <thoreauputic> Stew2: my experience with the networking front end was that I got *very* slow connection speeds
[05:06] <dimeo> I've removed them from synaptic, those bad news backports
[05:06] <GhettoFish> anyone got any ideas why i get this error message when i play some files with mplayer; "Mplayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_audio" ??
[05:06] <nalioth> Thorrn4: point to point protocol daemon
[05:06] <bob2> GhettoFish: it means mplayer is crashing
[05:07] <GhettoFish> i assume it is a codec error.
[05:07] <GhettoFish> but i can't find which one i'm missing
[05:07] <Stew2> bob2 No, because like I said, I can't run Linux and stay online: as I haven't inserted the command string to make the modem stable enough. I just want to know where to insert the string '-V90=13S37=11'. It will make the Networking applet connection stable enough that I can use it.
[05:07] <randabis> howdy
[05:07] <bob2> GhettoFish: no, it's mplayer crashing
[05:07] <bob2> Stew2: good lord
[05:07] <Thorrn4> and what is a "daemon" then?
[05:07] <Stew2> bob2 I'll look at /etc/ppp if you think the script or whatnot is in there.
[05:08] <Stew2> bob2 Good lord yourself.
[05:08] <bob2> Stew2: use pppconfig.  insert the string (it has an option on the menu for it).  get online. come back. then we can play with guis.
[05:08] <dimeo> yes, you called?
[05:08] <abarbaccia> Thorrn4, a daemon is something that runs in the background that you don't know is running but doing its job
[05:08] <SigNagE> hey, can anyone help me out with a problem. I recently installed Ubundtu and tried my wireless network card with it (it claims to work but it doesnt seem to). Itc a dlink-dwl-520+ (ACX100). Someone linked me to the sourceforge drivers, i put them on my linux box but have absolutely no idea what to do with them :/
[05:08] <bob2> SigNagE: the acx_pci driver didn't work?
[05:08] <nickrud> Stew2, it's in /etc/chatscripts
[05:08] <dimeo> you need the ndiswrapper configured
[05:08] <thoreauputic> Thorrn4: literally, a "helper' metaphorically a process that waits in the backgroud until needed (more or less)
[05:08] <Stew2> thoreauputic, I seem to get slow connects too, though the slow connection in Ubuntu Hoary seems to be an artifact of the inability to enter a proper command string to get reliable connections with the modem.
[05:08] <dimeo> I'm guessing cause thats what I needed to get my WIFI card to work
[05:08] <bob2> ah, there you go, thanks nickrud
[05:09] <Thorrn4> thanx thoreauputic
[05:09] <nalioth> Thorrn4: your 'buntu box is positively SWARMING with daemons right at this very instant!
[05:09] <Orunitia> Can someone tell my what 'getty' and 'klogd' are? Processes in my system monitor.
[05:09] <Stew2> nickrud, /etc/chatscripts, so that's where the Networking applet stores the modem init string. Thanks.
[05:09] <randabis> I thought acx100 didn't need ndiswrapper...hmm
[05:09] <dimeo> thorrn4:  it's possessed!
[05:09] <jon_k> how can i tell what filesystem is on a drive from within the console? its easy to tell the partition type but i need to find out what type of fs is on a parition
[05:09] <abarbaccia> randabis, it doesn't
[05:09] <randabis> didn't think so
[05:09] <nickrud> Stew2, well, that's where pppconfig does, I don't know about the networking applet :)
[05:10] <dimeo> randabis: perhaps it doesn't... I know mine did for a motorola wifi card
[05:10] <randabis> he was probably talking to stew
[05:10] <Thorrn4> ...really? like what dimeo and nalioth?
[05:10] <thoreauputic> Stew2: in my case, th emodem is perfectly fine, yet the default config with the gnome frontend gave me $MB per hour (do not adjust your set, there is a fault in reality)
[05:10] <david_> thoreauputic, i installed xmms, where can i find the shortcut to it?
[05:10] <abarbaccia> jon_k, try 'sudo fdisk -l'  under system, its the partition type
[05:10] <Stew2> bob2 I haven't been able to do that, use pppconfig. It worked once, and then when I setup the Networking gui (which should just be a front-end for pppconfig anyway, right?) pppconfig's programs pon and poff don't seem to work anymore.
[05:10] <Orunitia> Can someone tell my what 'getty' and 'klogd' are? Processes in my system monitor.
[05:10] <davegahan> need some urgent help here, gnome crashed in a previous session and does not load anymore
[05:11] <nalioth> Thorrn4: dunno what you've got installed, might be a cupsd, a sshd, dunno
[05:11] <davegahan>  can only use "faisafe terminal"
[05:11] <nalioth> Orunitia: did you ask uncle google?
[05:11] <thoreauputic> david_: it should be in your gnome menu - I'm using fluxbox so I can't look atm
[05:11] <abarbaccia> Orunitia, dont keep asking - google them
[05:11] <Thorrn4> I'm new too linux nalioth...what did u say exactly?
[05:11] <Stew2> nickrud, Why is the Networking applet such a mystery. Is there documentation on it somewhere, because clearly it's there to be used, or it wouldn't be included...
[05:11] <davegahan> do I need to apt-get gnome again ?
[05:11] <thoreauputic> david_: or just run ` xmms` from a terminal
[05:11] <randabis> uncle google is watching a movie with aunt lycos
[05:11] <randabis> how cute
[05:11] <nalioth> Thorrn4: if you have CUPS installed, you have a cups(D)aemon running
[05:11] <david_> thoreauputic, you're right, i just didnt think it would do that automatically, thanks
[05:12] <jon_k> abarbaccia, /dev/hdc3             188       14593   115716195   83  Linux           doesn't show the filesystem type (ext3, reiserfs) at all
[05:12] <nickrud> Stew2, I'd never seen it until ubuntu, and I've never used it
[05:12] <Seveas> Orunitia, getty is the program that allocates consoles, klogd is the kernel log daemon. Use google or thir manpages for details
[05:12] <nalioth> Thorrn4: the cupsd 'listens' for you to hit <ctrl-p> or whatver it is to print something
[05:12] <davegahan> please if someone can help me...
[05:13] <HappyFool> davegahan: what error do you get when you try to start gnome ? (presumably on boot)
[05:13] <abarbaccia> jon_k, it does too - filesystem 83, type LINUX - is ext3
[05:13] <thoreauputic> Stew2: i don't think the hoary frontend to ppp uses pppconfig
[05:13] <Seveas> davegahan, move ~/.gconf ~/.gnome ~/.gnome2 out of the way and retry logging in
[05:13] <Thorrn4> oh.....I dont have a printer installed nalioth, so I guess that I might not have it
[05:13] <davegahan> well  can login
[05:13] <nalioth> Thorrn4: if you have dialup, the ppp(d)aemon listens for "pon" (dial up) and "poff" (hang up) and it dials the phone or hangs up
[05:13] <Seveas> all your settings will then be reset
[05:13] <jon_k> ahh, okay, thanks
[05:13] <abarbaccia> jon_k, if it was reiserfs or another one it would say different than linux - and it wouldnt be type 83
[05:13] <davegahan> but when GNOME starts up it crashes
[05:13] <davegahan> and  return to the GDM or login screen
[05:13] <nalioth> Thorrn4: just giving you examples
[05:13] <TokenBad> in xchat is there a way to show system stats like can in windows with moo.dll?
[05:13] <thoreauputic> Stew2: as I used pppconfig after the frotend and it knew nothing about my previous config
[05:13] <randabis> does it produce an error message davegahan
[05:13] <davegahan> how can I remove those directories ?
[05:13] <davegahan> no error message
[05:14] <odie5533> How do I check what IP my computer is assigned?
[05:14] <randabis> does it produce an error message davegahan?
[05:14] <Seveas> davegahan, mv ~/.gconf ~/.Trash/
[05:14] <LinuxJones> odie5533, ifconfig -a
[05:14] <davegahan> it just goes blank and then I get again the login screen
[05:14] <thoreauputic> odie5533: ifconfig
[05:14] <randabis> oopa
[05:14] <Seveas> and for the others too
[05:14] <nalioth> odie5533: ifconfig
[05:14] <davegahan> seveas, unfortunately  am not a termina whiz
[05:14] <davegahan> could you take me by the hand ?
[05:14] <randabis> uh
[05:14] <HappyFool> odie5533: also try Applications -> System Tools -> Network tools
[05:14] <Seveas> davegahan, type this over exactly:
[05:15] <davegahan> meaning, how can  get to those directories ?
[05:15] <randabis> davegahan: he just gave you the EXACT command...lol
[05:15] <Seveas> mv ~/.gconf ~/.gnome ~/.gnome2 ~/.Trash/
[05:15] <odie5533> And with ifconfig which ip is the one it was assigned?
[05:15] <SigNagE> hey, can anyone help me out with a problem. I recently installed Ubundtu and tried my wireless network card with it (it claims to work but it doesnt seem to). Itc a dlink-dwl-520+ (ACX100). Someone linked me to the sourceforge drivers, i put them on my linux box but have absolutely no idea what to do with them :/
[05:15] <davegahan> it says "no such file or directory"
[05:15] <Muiske> Does anyone have a HOWTO for mounting a (new) partition to the home directory?
[05:15] <thoreauputic> odie5533: the one for the interface concerned 9 eg ppp or eth0 etc)
[05:15] <davegahan> I am in my home folder
[05:16] <odie5533> I'm looking at eth0
[05:16] <odie5533> is it the inet addr?
[05:16] <randabis> SigNagE: in what way does the card not work? is it detected by your box at all?
[05:16] <LinuxJones> davegahan, it might be easier to create a new user account and try logging into that account
[05:16] <LinuxJones> odie5533, yeah
[05:16] <nalioth> odie5533: how many network devices do you have?
[05:16] <thoreauputic> odie5533: if eth0 is connected to the net, yeah
[05:16] <Seveas> davegahan, have you ever used the Trashcan before?
[05:17] <odie5533> 1
[05:17] <odie5533> I have a problem now then, I have 2 routers, and I need to forward a port to <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:17] <davegahan> sure but not from terminal
[05:17] <david_> i've got another question, i mounted my external HD with: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mystuff -o uid=1000, yet i have only read-only access, why?
[05:17] <dimeo> any optionions for what's the best p2p on ubuntu?  Bittorrents never work for me
[05:17] <Seveas> davegahan, ok
[05:17] <Seveas> what does this say:
[05:17] <Seveas> mv ~/.gconf ~/.Trash
[05:17] <davegahan> let me create a new user then, like that can I remove those directories ?
[05:18] <thoreauputic> david_: what file system? ntfs?
[05:18] <davegahan> I am on my friends windows laoptop here...
[05:18] <dimeo> seveas move everything in /.gconf to /.Trash?  I'm guessing
[05:18] <LinuxJones> davegahan, if you can't login to the new user account gnome is broken. were you messing about with stuff ?
[05:18] <david_> thoreauputic, yah
[05:18] <Seveas> dimeo, i'm trying to let him do that..
[05:18] <Seveas> davegahan, do NOT create a new user
[05:18] <thoreauputic> david_: ntfs is only supported read-only
[05:18] <davegahan> no  was watching a movie on totem
[05:18] <davegahan> and I got a GNOME applet error message
[05:19] <davegahan> then I could not shutdown ubuntu
[05:19] <Seveas> davegahan, heve you typed the command I said?
[05:19] <Seveas> mv ~/.gconf ~/.Trash
[05:19] <david_> thoreauputic, is there anyway i can change that? through fstab or something
[05:19] <thoreauputic> david_: unless you are willing to install captive ntfs (experimental)
[05:19] <davegahan> had to pull out the battery of the laptop
[05:19] <thoreauputic> david_: linux doesn't write to ntfs
[05:19] <davegahan> seveas lets open a seperate chat session
[05:19] <Holdem> hello
[05:19] <Seveas> davegahan, why? I prefer staying in the channel...
[05:20] <davegahan> easier for me
[05:20] <randabis> staying in the channel allows other people to see the solution
[05:20] <davegahan> yes  typed the command
[05:20] <nalioth> davegahan: if you ask your questions here, more peeps can learn
[05:20] <odie5533> When I try to change default filetype association is says "Could not add application to the application database"
[05:20] <Seveas> davegahan, and did that give an error?
[05:20] <david_> thoreauputic, i  dont want to risk using captive so I guess ill wait for a stable release
[05:20] <davegahan> from my home folder it says "no such folder
[05:20] <GarenaSix> yeah id like to see the solution to it
[05:20] <randabis> I could understand if the text was scrolling very quickly
[05:20] <nalioth> david_: you may be waiting a while
[05:20] <david_> :(
[05:20] <Seveas> davegahan, ok, next one then:
[05:20] <Seveas> mv ~/.gnome2 ~/.Trash
[05:21] <Seveas> and then:
[05:21] <Seveas> mv ~/.gnome ~/.Trash
[05:21] <Seveas> and then:
[05:21] <Seveas> mv ~/.gconfd ~/.Trash
[05:21] <davegahan> these are hidden files isn,t it ?
[05:21] <HappyFool> is the name 'Trash' localized maybe ? (i'm guessing no such foldere is not an english error message)
[05:21] <david_> if i convert my HD to FAT, will it be supported?
[05:21] <Holdem> How do i get a transparent terminal? So that i can see my desktop through it
[05:21] <euphor] [a> hole
[05:21] <randabis> yes any file/folder with a . in front is hidden
[05:21] <euphor] [a> a
[05:21] <thoreauputic> david_: back up your drive and reformat it with something sane like ext3 ;)
[05:21] <nalioth> david_: yes
[05:21] <SigNagE> hey, can anyone help me out with a problem. I recently installed Ubundtu and tried my wireless network card with it (it claims to work but it doesnt seem to). Itc a dlink-dwl-520+ (ACX100). Someone linked me to the sourceforge drivers, i put them on my linux box but have absolutely no idea what to do with them :/
[05:21] <dimeo> david_fat32 works nicely between windows and ubuntu
[05:21] <euphor] [a> i'm about to install ubuntu
[05:21] <Seveas> davegahan, have you executed these commands?
[05:21] <randabis> SigNagE: in what way does the card not work? is it detected by your box at all?
[05:21] <davegahan> ok
[05:22] <davegahan> I moved .gnome2 to trash
[05:22] <randabis> I just answered you a minute ago jeez...you never said anything
[05:22] <dimeo> david: I have a separate partition for transfering files that's fat32
[05:22] <davegahan> that did not give an error
[05:22] <nickrud> Holdem, there's an option under edit->current profile in gnome-terminal
[05:22] <Seveas> mv ~/.gnome ~/.Trash
[05:22] <Seveas> ^-- try that one now
[05:22] <david_> thoreauputic: big step lol, no more windows ever
[05:22] <davegahan> hold on
[05:23] <anacron> is it easy to install drivers for ati-cards?
[05:23] <randabis> no windows = fun :)
[05:23] <Holdem> nickrud, thanks I'll try now
[05:23] <Seveas> anacron: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:23] <Seveas> if you follow that, it's easy :)
[05:23] <thoreauputic> david_: trust the force, Luke! Don't give in to the Dark Side! ;)
[05:23] <anacron> Seveas: ok thanks
[05:23] <randabis> no pms please
[05:23] <ericlim> \q
[05:24] <quam> you dont like PMS? :p
[05:24] <randabis> hell naw, too much cramping and bloating
[05:24] <david_> thoreauputic, im very tempted to format ext3 ;)
[05:31] (Seveas/#ubuntu) davegahan, could you login again or not?
[05:31] (nod/#ubuntu) hi all.  i'm having a problem getting pygame to install
[05:31] (nod/#ubuntu) I can't seem to locate it in Synaptic
[05:31] (davegahan/#ubuntu) no...
[05:32] (thoreauputic/#ubuntu) Howitzer: in preferences or "configure konqueror" there's a plugins dialogue somewhere - I'd have to fire up konq to look...
[05:32] (Seveas/#ubuntu) davegahan, ok, next step:
[05:32] <davegahan> neither normal session or failsafe
[05:32] <Howitzer> but ehh
[05:32] <odie5533> How do I make mp3's open in VLC?
[05:32] <Seveas> rm ~/.ICEauthority
[05:32] <davegahan> ok
[05:32] <davegahan> tell me
[05:32] <nalioth> nod: search for python or game
[05:32] <Howitzer> how can i go to configure konqueror if konqueror freezes the moment it starts? Oo
[05:32] <nod> nalioth: i did.  it doesn't show up
[05:32] <nalioth> odie5533: ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:32] <we2by> bob2, do u think 224 is flac?
[05:32] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: umm - good point :/
[05:33] <bob2> we2by: I don't know what you mean by "224"
[05:33] <davegahan> Seveas ?
[05:33] <HappyFool> nod: python-pygame is in universe
[05:33] <nalioth> nod: do you have univere and multiverse enabled?
[05:33] <bob2> we2by: a 224kbit/s mp3 is not a flac file, if that's what you mean
[05:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> where does Ubuntu keep slay? is it in a standard repo?
[05:33] <we2by> bitarte is 224
[05:33] <Seveas> davegahan, i told you already:
[05:33] <Seveas> rm ~/.ICEauthority
[05:33] <bob2> Kamping_Kaiser: in universe
[05:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok
[05:33] <dominik> how can i change the background color when the splashscreen loads? i dont like this ugly brown ;)
[05:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks bob2
[05:33] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: possibly look in ~/.kde for konq config stuff?
[05:33] <nod> nalioth: i dont believe so.
[05:33] <davegahan> sorry - but what did you tell ?
[05:33] <nod> nalioth: if it's not in the default install, then I don't
[05:33] <odie5533> nalioth: I just want to open them with it, I already have VLC
[05:34] <we2by> bob2, higher bitrate means better quality?
[05:34] <nod> nalioth: got a url that talks about that?
[05:34] <nalioth> odie5533: you need codecs to open certain filetypes, read the page
[05:34] <bob2> we2by: in mp3s, yes.  in flac, no.
[05:34] <odie5533> nalioth: the file plays, it doesnt default to opening to VLC
[05:34] <nalioth> nod: ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats  <<this will tell you about universe and multiverse
[05:34] <nod> thx
[05:34] <nod> reading now
[05:34] <nalioth> odie5533: ok, you can right click and "open with" and if you want it default, there's a box at the bottom
[05:35] <Seveas> davegahan:rm ~/.ICEauthority
[05:35] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: possibly cd to ~/.kde/share/config
[05:35] <nickrud> dominik, system->prefs->background and change the color
[05:35] <Howitzer> okay
[05:35] <Howitzer> i'm trying to reinstall now
[05:35] <odie5533> nalioth: Open with other application?
[05:35] <Howitzer> okay
[05:35] <davegahan> ok
[05:35] <zedman> I'm having problems with my sound not working
[05:35] <Howitzer> here goes nothing!
[05:36] <Howitzer> hey wait
[05:36] <Howitzer> i remembered
[05:36] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: reinstalling won't help unless you purge the config (a bit drastic)
[05:36] <Howitzer> konqueror doesn't freeze when it goes to the 'conquer your desktop' page
[05:36] <dominik> nickrud, this only changes the background color when gnome is loaded. but after logging in, when gnome is loading, theres still the brown
[05:37] <davegahan> ok I did it
[05:37] <davegahan> retry ?
[05:37] <Howitzer> oh yeah, this isn't windows :x
[05:37] <nalioth> odie5533: yeppers, just like winduhs
[05:37] <Seveas> davegahan, no
[05:37] <nod> nalioth: great!  looks like that did it
[05:37] <Seveas> davegahan: rm ~/.Xauthority
[05:37] <nod> thx
[05:37] <nickrud> dominik, yeah, I looked after I typed, so, my bad, sorry
[05:37] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: have you tried starting konq from a terminal?
[05:37] <davegahan> ok
[05:37] <Seveas> davegahan, and THEN retry
[05:37] <odie5533> yay for winduhs, hazaah!
[05:37] <dimeo> zedman: me too whenever I boot I have to type killall esd
[05:37] <nod> that was driving me nuts
[05:37] <nalioth> nod: now you can reload your synaptic and have lots more toys
[05:37] <zedman> can you get your sound back though?
[05:38] <zedman> by restarting the esd?
[05:38] <dominik> nickrud,  no problem, any idea where i can change that?
[05:38] <zedman> I just have no sound when I boot, and it was working yesterday
[05:38] <Howitzer> it froze again
[05:38] <dimeo> I get sound from ubuntu loading the desktop but when I boot XMMS it doesn't work
[05:38] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: :(
[05:38] <davegahan> no same problem remains
[05:38] <Howitzer> argh
[05:38] <Seveas> dimeo, change the xmms output plugin to esd
[05:38] <kroiz> the dhcp client on my ubuntu is not getting an ip. is there a log I can see why not?
[05:39] <Howitzer> and it only occurs when i go to the map
[05:39] <nickrud> dominik, I've just looked at a couple of places, and it's not there, either ;(
[05:39] <Howitzer> *a map
[05:39] <Howitzer> like when i fo in ome folder
[05:39] <thoreauputic> dimeo: select the esound output plugin for xmms
[05:39] <Seveas> kroiz, does it say: no DHCPOFFERS received?
[05:39] <dimeo> seveas: what should the multimedia systems selectors be set to?
[05:39] <dominik> hmm, but thanks for trying
[05:39] <zedman> just type dmix in the terminal?
[05:39] <Howitzer> it says that it doesn't have any files or folders at the bottom
[05:39] <Seveas> dimeo, esd/esound/enlightenment sound daemon, something like that
[05:39] <GhettoFish> Anyone know which lib i can find the AC97 audo codec for XviD?
[05:39] <Howitzer> WAIT
[05:40] <kroiz> Seveas, not anywhere i noticed.
[05:40] <davegahan> why can,t I just apt-get and renstall the GNOME desktop ?
[05:40] <Howitzer> Terminal gives a whole lot of errors
[05:40] <dimeo> seveas: both for input and output?
[05:40] <Lafitte-> Seveas,  i hve that no ip issue also t times
[05:40] <zedman> thoreauputic: just type dmix in the term?
[05:40] <thoreauputic> zedman: dmix is a bit more complex than that
[05:40] <Howitzer> thoreauputic, can i spam you the stuff in a pm?
[05:40] <Seveas> kroiz, can you paste the output of sudo dhclient eth0 (or whaterver your net card is) on ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[05:40] <Seveas> dimeo, only output
[05:41] <Lafitte-> kroiz, mine does that after been idle super long time   and then requires  reboot to get ip again
[05:41] <zedman> thoreauputic: how so?
[05:41] <nod> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-3.3/libg2c0_3.3.5-8ubuntu2_i386.deb    MD5Sum mismatch
[05:41] <Seveas> nod, us.archive is borked
[05:41] <thoreauputic> zedman: there's a decent howto on converting to dmix on ubuntuguide.org under "fix sound" or something
[05:41] <randabis> nod: use archive.ubuntu.com not us
[05:41] <londonboi2k3> hi guys i am getting and md5 checksum error with apt-get update on  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe is there a problem with ther servers?
[05:41] <jino> can any one say why no virus attacks on linux?
[05:41] <nod> randabis: ummm... ok
[05:41] <randabis> omg
[05:41] <nalioth> nod: now the next problem
[05:41] <thoreauputic> zedman: or 'make sound work properly" - have a look
[05:41] <zedman> I'm going :)
[05:41] <randabis> londonboi2k3: use archive.ubuntu.com not us.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:41] <zedman> thanks
[05:41] <|QuaD-_> jino: thats not true
[05:42] <londonboi2k3> ahh ok thanks very much
[05:42] <jino> why?
[05:42] <|QuaD-_> jino: there are things like rootkits and what not
[05:42] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: I'd prefer you used #flood
[05:42] <nalioth> nod: open your /etc/apt/sources.list (as root) and remove the us. from the front of all the addresses with us. in the front
[05:42] <Howitzer> oky
[05:42] <Corvus> when i try to install ubuntu, it gives me an error about unreadable file on the cd, i checked the cd and it's correct
[05:42] <Howitzer> already did that
[05:42] <|QuaD-_> jino: there are malicious binary files
[05:42] <Howitzer> nobody answers though :(
[05:42] <davegahan> seves ?
[05:42] <jino> okie..
[05:42] <kevogod> jino: Windows is usually set up as Administrator.
[05:42] <SigNagE> hey, can anyone help me out with a problem. I recently installed Ubundtu and tried my wireless network card with it (it claims to work but it doesnt seem to). Itc a dlink-dwl-520+ (ACX100). Someone linked me to the sourceforge drivers, i put them on my linux box but have absolutely no idea what to do with them :/
[05:42] <Corvus> does anyone knows about his
[05:42] <Corvus> ?
[05:42] <jino> okie..
[05:42] <Seveas> davegahan, did you retry?
[05:42] <Corvus> *this
[05:42] <nod> nalioth: is there just something wrong with the us mirror?
[05:42] <|QuaD-_> jino: windows viruses just don't effect linux
[05:43] <Howitzer> yes
[05:43] <davegahan> yes i did
[05:43] <jino> okie.
[05:43] <kevogod> jino: And access is still enough in Limited mode that viruses are affect it more.
[05:43] <kroiz> this place is too crowded, thanks any.
[05:43] <davegahan> no change
[05:43] <Howitzer> nod, you need to change to archives.ubuntu
[05:43] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: try changing your theme - it's complaining about icons
[05:43] <imnes> Anybody know if there are any glib-gettext 2.2.0+ packages available for ubuntu?
[05:43] <Howitzer> i can't
[05:43] <randabis> SigNagE: is the device listed in ifconfig or iwconfig?
[05:43] <Howitzer> i need to do that with konqueror in the settings page
[05:43] <jino> so virsu attacks can happen?
[05:43] <nalioth> nod: yes, atm they are md5 impaired
[05:43] <nod> Howitzer: yeah, i was just curious why
[05:43] <nod> ahh, ok
[05:43] <xophEr> do you know how I can modify the apperance of the xscreensaver 'locked'-dialog, like its modified in ubuntu ( http://www.tufan.com.tr/~ercin/sshot/ubuntu_xscreensaver_lock_thumb.png ) ?
[05:43] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: sure you can - fire up kcontrol
[05:43] <imnes> THe us mirror is messed up...
[05:43] <davegahan> I cannot load metacity, it goes blank before that
[05:44] <squinn> hey, panickedthumb.
[05:44] <nod> that's cool then. i didnt know if us.arch had been compromised or something
[05:44] <ghostless> How can I burn a cdi CD image???
[05:44] <kevogod> jino: With Linux, people can fix holes themselves while on Windows everything is left up to Microsoft and they have a lot of outstanding issues.
[05:44] <Howitzer> oh my
[05:44] <Howitzer> ty
[05:44] <panickedthumb> howdy squinn
[05:44] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: your icons are a kde thing - not a konq thing
[05:44] <ghostless> How can I burn a cdi CD image???
[05:44] <dimeo> When installing with apt-get here's the error message I still get, but no idea how to fix:  Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:44] <dimeo>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtkhtml2-0_2.6.3-1_i386.deb
[05:44] <dimeo> Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[05:44] <dimeo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:44] <nalioth> nod: just read above to what i said about us. thangs
[05:44] <jino> ya..
[05:44] <dimeo> sudo apt-get clean doesn't do anything
[05:44] <imnes> I dunno why it's down, but it is.  Just take the us. off your sources list and use the international servers
[05:44] <ghostless> How can I burn a cdi CD image???
[05:44] <Seveas> davegahan, type this in the terminal and paste the output in a private chat: ls -al | grep '\.g'
[05:44] <squinn> how's moderating them forums going?
[05:44] <nod> alright.  just curious. thx
[05:44] <|QuaD-_> jino: they can happen, people just don't really target linux as much as windows
[05:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> ghostless stop asking
[05:45] <davegahan> ok
[05:45] <|QuaD-_> jino: you should still never run binaries that you don't know where they came from
[05:45] <jino> can u temme how to install internet services like cgi support
[05:45] <ghostless> Kamping_Kaiser, no thanks
[05:45] <HappyFool> ghostless: if anyone knew, they'd have answered by now
[05:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> ghostless, your being rude
[05:45] <nalioth> ghostless: if anyone knows, they will answer
[05:45] <jino> okie..
[05:45] <ghostless> Kamping_Kaiser, It's ok
[05:45] <jino> okie
[05:45] <nalioth> ghostless: please give it a few minutes tween the same question, ok?
[05:45] <jino> thanx a lot..
[05:45] <thenuke_> ghostless: try googling for it
[05:45] <ghostless> nalioth, I will indeed, thank you
[05:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> night all, good luck ghostless ;)
[05:45] <Thorrn4> hello HappyFool
[05:46] <imnes> ghostless, try this: http://kiso.sourceforge.net/info_ks.php
[05:46] <ghostless> Kamping_Kaiser, Thanks you kind sir
[05:46] <HappyFool> hey Thorrn4
[05:46] <ghostless> imnes, Thanks I will
[05:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> :D
[05:46] <Thorrn4> how is it going HappyFool?
[05:46] <Howitzer> okay
[05:46] <davegahan> I cant paste-copy seveas because  am on a windows machine here
[05:46] <nalioth> Thorrn4: did i explain your daemons adequately?
[05:47] <randabis> no pms please
[05:47] <jino> how to get cgi support ?
[05:47] <klaym> anyone run smtm, gepolabo, qtstalker or some other stock analysis software on Ubuntu? please pm me!
[05:47] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: not too bad ta. how are you?
[05:47] <randabis> next pm gets /ignore
[05:47] <Seveas> jino, install apache2 and read its manual...
[05:47] <Howitzer> i'm going to test konqueror again, wish me luck :scared_as_hell_:
[05:47] <ghostless> imnes, Is there a package for it?
[05:47] <davegahan> there are still gnome2 gnome2_private, and gnome_private directories as I can see
[05:47] <jino> thanx
[05:47] <Thorrn4> ummm....it's like the program that does the action of what you want, from clicking the button(s), it does what you want (like print); right nalioth?
[05:47] <Seveas> davegahan, ok:
[05:47] <davegahan> do  have to move these to trash too ?
[05:48] <londonboi2k3> Is it possible to have my computer mail me to a predified e-mail address what my new ip address is after a reboot?
[05:48] <Seveas> davegahan, mv ~/.gnome2 ~/.gnome*private ~/.Trash
[05:48] <nalioth> Thorrn4: the daemons 'listen' for their cue to go to work, yes
[05:48] <Howitzer> :eek: konqueror froze -again-
[05:48] <HappyFool> londonboi2k3: if you've got your mail setup working, probably yes
[05:48] <Thorrn4> I'm ok HappyFool; I just woke up...and the computer turned on, so I'm good so far :) I've have some problems recently, but I managed to find help and fixed them
[05:49] <londonboi2k3> sendmail is working ok, and i can send mail out. how would i tell it to mail me my IP address? is there a howto anywhere you could point me to ;)
[05:49] <randabis> Howitzer: are you using kde 3.4.1?
[05:49] <thoreauputic> londonboi2k3: easier is to install ez-ipupdate and get a free dyndns.org redirection
[05:49] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: heh. i'm about to go hunt down some supper ;)
[05:49] <dimeo> should I have openoffice.org or openoffice.org2 installed in ubuntu hoary?
[05:49] <kevogod> Not 2
[05:49] <Seveas> dimeo, OOo2 in hoary is not too stable...
[05:49] <HappyFool> londonboi2k3: well, you can do what thoreauputic said, or you can just pipe ifconfig into the mail command -- see 'man mail'
[05:49] <Howitzer> randabis,  i'm no sure
[05:50] <dimeo> seveas: thx again
[05:50] <Howitzer> how do i check that?
[05:50] <randabis> use koffice lolz
[05:50] <kevogod> Will OOo2 be supported by Ubuntu since it uses Java?
[05:50] <randabis> Howitzer: open kcontrol
[05:50] <Thorrn4> HappyFool,  then I checked my email....and i have not got any spam to look through...GMAIL is very good. Breakfast would be good....I wonder what I should have
[05:50] <Seveas> kevogod, yes
[05:50] <zedman> is the sshd in /etc/sshd ?
[05:50] <Howitzer> 3.4.0 randabis
[05:50] <imnes> kevogod - you can run it without java, just not all the features will be there.
[05:50] <Seveas> zedman, have you installed openssh-server?
[05:50] <Howitzer> Kubuntu
[05:50] <randabis> Howitzer: you should upgrade
[05:50] <zedman> yeah, its been installed
[05:51] <Howitzer> i can't :x
[05:51] <kevogod> I mean, will it be installed in 5.10?
[05:51] <kevogod> by default
[05:51] <imnes> Also gnu's free java implementation is available in ubuntu
[05:51] <londonboi2k3> I will try thoreauputic's idea, sounds cool to me. My ISP keeps changing my IP ever reboot unlike my old ISP which let me keep it for up to 3 months before a chang
[05:51] <Seveas> zedman, then type dpkg -L openssh-server to find out where it is
[05:51] <Howitzer> i did tje apt-get nd it said i have the latest version
[05:51] <Seveas> kevogod, yup
[05:51] <mink> is there a program that is run to generate the x.org conf that ubuntu uses?
[05:51] <Seveas> mink, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:51] <toshiba_> Any ideas why the following command doesn't work for me?: cat /proc/cpufreq
[05:51] <randabis> Howitzer: why not? join #kubuntu and read the channel topic. It gives you the information to add to /etc/apt/sources.list in order to update
[05:52] <jino> can u temme how to execute php?
[05:52] <HappyFool> londonboi2k3: this works for me: 'ifconfig | mail me@myhost' -- you could add that to the startup scripts
[05:52] <davegahan> why is it saying gnome2_private and gnome_private "no such files" ?
[05:52] <Seveas> toshiba_, maybe your processor does not support it...
[05:52] <mink> yeah hmm, I guess my question is when I first install ubuntu, how does it generate that orignal config
[05:52] <toshiba_> Seveas, Pentium-M.
[05:52] <nalioth> imnes: gnus java implementation?
[05:52] <Seveas> toshiba_, have you installed linux-686
[05:52] <Seveas> ?
[05:52] <londonboi2k3> ahh, thats interesting! Thanks HF
[05:52] <Lafitte-> sweet  we just had a earthquake
[05:52] <toshiba_> Seveas, Yes.
[05:53] <Seveas> toshiba_, weird, same setup here and works fine
[05:53] <Thorrn4> ...is Breezy the next version of Ubuntu? because the name was in the Topic...and Ubuntu seams to use weird names....
[05:53] <Ng> yes
[05:53] <Seveas> you are not on warty by the way?
[05:53] <jino> can i login as root graphically?
[05:53] <dimeo> any opinions for the best way to integrate RSS feeds into my Ubuntu installation?  I at first used Kontact, but I don't want to load the whole thing every time I get RSS feeds
[05:53] <nalioth> Thorrn4: yes breezy is the next level
[05:53] <bob2> jino: yes, but why?
[05:53] <Ng> and after breezy is grumpy or something ;)
[05:53] <Seveas> Ng, no
[05:53] <Seveas> Ng, grumpy is a different project
[05:53] <imnes> nalioth: you can install java-gcj-compat, libgcj6, gcj and you'll have a working gnu java install.
[05:53] <Thorrn4> why not stick 2 just numbers?
[05:53] <nalioth> dimeo: google "yarssr"
[05:53] <toshiba_> Seveas, cpufredq now works.. but can't use that cmd.. no, not on warty..
[05:53] <Ng> Seveas: ah, what's that about then?
[05:54] <Seveas> toshiba_, you do not need cpufreqd
[05:54] <dimeo> Speaking of weird ubuntu names.... how many ppl get comments like " what your os is whorey?"
[05:54] <nalioth> imnes: really? so why all the wikiness on goin to sun or ibm and jumpin thru hoops?
[05:54] <jino> coz no other user has full powers..rt?
[05:54] <toshiba_> Seveas, is it normal that I don't even have a /proc folder?
[05:54] <jino> how can i?
[05:54] <Seveas> Ng, it'll be a rolling unstable like debian sid
[05:54] <Ben_Babcock> When I try to install Ubuntu, my keyboard won't respond when I get to the "Choose a language" screen.  It's a Toshiba laptop.
[05:54] <Seveas> toshiba_, wtf??
[05:54] <Seveas> that's NOT normal...
[05:54] <bob2> jino: why do you want to login as root?
[05:54] <toshiba_> Seveas, nvrmind, i do :P
[05:54] <Ng> Seveas: ahhh, cool :)
[05:54] <imnes> nalioth - the gnu stuff is a work in progress, some swing apps still won't run, but most stuff is okay.
[05:54] <toshiba_> Seveas, but no /cpufreq :(
[05:54] <imnes> Eclipse and other stuff will run fine.
[05:55] <nalioth> imnes: ah
[05:55] <Seveas> toshiba_, maybe cpufreqd screws that up for you, you don't need cpufreqd anyway
[05:55] <jino> just wanted to know..
[05:55] <imnes> I think anything except more advanced swing apps will run.  But haven't tried too many myself.
[05:55] <Ng> Seveas: is there an ubuntu weekly newsletter yet? tracking all these things involves watching a lot of mailing lists and IRC channels and wikis ;)
[05:55] <thenuke_> jino: you really should not have need to "login graphically" as a root
[05:55] <jino> just wanted to know..
[05:55] <Thorrn4> dimeo, not many people like Ubuntu...all my other Linux friends dont like it; they kinda laught at me
[05:55] <Seveas> Ng, search for ubuntu-traffic un the ubuntu website
[05:55] <bob2> jino: yeah, it's possible, but unncessery
[05:55] <jino> okie
[05:55] <jino> okie..
[05:56] <thenuke_> jino: open up a terminal and use sudo and sudo su  commands to run things as a root
[05:56] <toshiba_> Seveas, i don't...? hm.
[05:56] <Seveas> toshiba_, no
[05:56] <imnes> Thorn4 I like ubuntu on my 32 bit machine, but for 64 I prefer the mixed-mode systems, like SuSE / Fedora.
[05:56] <jino> okie..
[05:56] <Seveas> kust remove it and look at the cpu frequency scaling applet :)
[05:56] <Seveas> s/kust/just/
[05:56] <randabis> sudo -s is better to use than sudo su iirc
[05:57] <toshiba_> Seveas, the cpu freq applet didnt really work till i install cpufreqd
[05:57] <Seveas> randabis, sudo -i
[05:57] <jeroen_> thenuke_, jino: sudo -s
[05:57] <theine> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 5.04 on an G3 Imac, but I cannot boot off the installation CD. I didn't have any trouble booting when I tried out the Ubuntu 5.04 Live-CD. Does anybody know what the problem could be?
[05:57] <jino> temme how to rebiuld grub if i loose tat
[05:57] <toshiba_> Seveas, removed now.. will restart n see.
[05:57] <Seveas> jeroen_, sudo -i
[05:57] <randabis> Seveas: yeah that too :)
[05:57] <imnes> Anybody know if network-manager-gnome is available for ubuntu yet?
[05:58] <Seveas> imnes, only some experimental packages
[05:58] <jino> thanx
[05:58] <jeroen_> Seveas, you're right
[05:58] <Seveas> jeroen_, otherwise i would not say it :) </brag_mode>
[05:58] <imnes> Seveas - you know where I can get them?
[05:58] <davegahan> seveas, what does "cannot overwrite directory..... /.Trash/gnome2 mean ?
[05:58] <Seveas> imnes, search at udu.wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:58] <theine> I burned the installation CD several times with varying speeds by the way, but that didn't help,,,
[06:00] <nalioth> theine: what exactly is happening? the sequence of events please and errors
[06:01] <davegahan> Seves ?
[06:01] <Seveas> davegahan, that means you made an error somewhere
[06:01] <Thorrn4> what exactly will you be changing or adding in the new version of Ubuntu?
[06:02] <Seveas> davegahan, ok, if you don't mind losing settings, lets take drastic measures
[06:02] <Seveas> davegahan, rm -f ~/.gnome* rm ~/.gconf*
[06:02] <davegahan> ok
[06:02] <Seveas> be careful with that, type it over EXACT
[06:02] <davegahan> can I afterwards apt-get gnome again ?
[06:02] <Seveas> davegahan, you will not remove gnome
[06:02] <davegahan> ok
[06:02] <caonex> Seveas, it seems that my initrd that is preinstalled with ubuntu is gone, probably due to the conflict that i have been getting lately with apt-get trying to modify my initrd. Well the image seems to work, but how do i recreate the initrd, mkinitrd 2.6.10-5 should do it?
[06:03] <Seveas> davegahan, rm -rf ~/.gnome* rm -rf ~/.gconf*
[06:03] <SigNagE> right, the OS is picking up my network card
[06:03] <SigNagE> *fianlly*
[06:03] <Bramme> my printer is shared on a comp with windows 2k as 'hpdeskjet', how can i use it in ubuntu ?
[06:03] <davegahan> says cannot remove its a directory
[06:04] <jino> wats gnome?
[06:04] <davegahan> sorry,
[06:04] <davegahan> a typo
[06:04] <theine> nalioth: It doesn't happen anything unfortunatly, the Imac tries to read from the CD in order to boot from it, but nothing really happens. Eventually, after 2 or 3 minutes, the system just stalls
[06:04] <nalioth> theine: did you md5 check the install cd?
[06:04] <jino> wats gnome..?
[06:05] <sol77> Need a little help. How do I shut down the x-server from console mode? The opposite of startx I guess.
[06:05] <Seveas> jino, it's what gives you a GUI
[06:05] <davegahan> ,ok  removed
[06:05] <stjepan> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[06:05] <theine> nalioth: Yes, I did
[06:05] <Seveas> sol77, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[06:05] <stjepan> pls help me
[06:05] <stjepan> what is the problem?
[06:05] <nalioth> theine: but the ppc livecd runs, but not the installer
[06:05] <sol77> Seveas - thank you.
[06:05] <jino> thanx
[06:05] <Seveas> stjepan, what are you trying to install?
[06:05] <theine> nalioth: Exactly, that's what puzzling me so much
[06:05] <davegahan> Seveas, I removed
[06:05] <stjepan> compile anjuta
[06:05] <nalioth> theine: did you hold the "c" key or use open firmware?
[06:06] <Seveas> stjepan, it's in the repositories
[06:06] <Seveas> stjepan, you should not compile it yourself
[06:06] <theine> nalioth: "c" key
[06:06] <jino> where are the services in ubuntu? if i clear the gui service..how can i bring it bk?
[06:07] <Seveas> davegahan, ok, next is: rm -f ~/.*authority
[06:07] <stjepan> Seveas, I have used apt-get
[06:07] <Seveas> davegahan, and then retry
[06:07] <nalioth> theine: i suggest burning at a low speed
[06:07] <Seveas> stjepan, so why are you compiling it..?
[06:07] <davegahan> ok
[06:07] <nalioth> theine: sounds like your burn got mungled
[06:07] <stjepan> Seveas, but then I can't make project; there are errors
[06:07] <Seveas> stjepan, then resolve these errors instead of compiling it yoursefl
[06:08] <theine> nalioth: Several times even, but I'll try at even lower speed
[06:08] <Seveas> compiling it yourself will not solve it...
[06:08] <theine> nalioth: Thanks for your time
[06:08] <nalioth> theine: some burners are funny (and so are some readers)
[06:08] <davegahan> no change :( same error
[06:08] <jino> seveas, where are the services window..
[06:08] <Seveas> davegahan, hmmm, it's weird...
[06:08] <stjepan> Seveas, ok,  apt-get install anjuta
[06:08] <davegahan> very frustrating
[06:09] <davegahan> can  make a new install of gnome ?
[06:09] <Seveas> davegahan, last try: rm -f ~/.esd_auth
[06:09] <Seveas> if that doesn't work:
[06:09] <stjepan> Seveas, I have installed anjuta
[06:09] <Seveas> sudo adduser NEW_USER_NAME
[06:09] <davix> is there anyway to setup ubuntu with netinstall?
[06:10] <Seveas> sudo adduser THAT_NEW_USERNAME admin
[06:10] <Seveas> davix, yes
[06:10] <Seveas> it's documented in the wiki
[06:10] <davix> tnx Seveas.
[06:10] <davegahan> no seveas, still the same
[06:11] <Varanger> crimsun: are you here?
[06:11] <Seveas> davegahan, then it's time to create a new user
[06:11] <jino> hey
[06:11] <davegahan> ok
[06:11] <davegahan> how do I do that ?
[06:11] <Seveas> davegahan, suppose the new login name is dave, it would be this:
[06:12] <Seveas> sudo adduser dave
[06:12] <Seveas> sudo adduser dave admin
[06:12] <Seveas> (both the commands)
[06:12] <davix> Seveas i dont meen local net. all i can see is netboot and local net install both thru dhcp. i'm looking for something thru an internet mirror
[06:12] <davegahan> ok
[06:13] <davix> Seveas?
[06:13] <Seveas> davix, hmm, if the mechanisms described on the wiki cannot work in that context, then i have no idea
[06:13] <Seveas> i never did such a thing
[06:13] <davegahan> ok
[06:13] <davix> ok Seveas, tnx :)
[06:13] <davegahan> i am in gnome
[06:13] <davegahan> new user
[06:14] <R3LLIK> hello i have a asus laptop l5d bud i can't get my graphics working good
[06:15] <R3LLIK> my graphics card is fx go 5650
[06:15] <R3LLIK> i tried tutorials on forums bud no succes
[06:15] <davegahan> Seveas how do I proceed now ?
[06:15] <Seveas> davegahan, well, you're in gnome now :)
[06:15] <stjepan> Seveas, anjuta error: ERROR: The Project was not successfully auto generated.