[00:01] <munckfish> mmm X conf 08 in sunny california, a world away from still not quite convincingly spring here in Edinburgh, lucky you
[00:02] <bryyce> it's quite nice, I'm in shorts
[00:03] <bryyce> apparently it's going to be snowing next week back home (portland oregon)
[00:05] <bryyce> munckfish: so what do you work on?
[00:06] <munckfish> bryyce: you mean for ubuntu or generally?
[00:07] <bryyce> both
[00:07] <munckfish> well, by day I'm a software eng / team lead for a smallish elearning/gaming software company here in Scotland
[00:07] <bryyce> cool
[00:08] <munckfish> by night (and by breakfast time) I'm applying love and care to PS3+Hardy
[00:08] <munckfish> and just generally trying to find a useful niche in the ubuntu
[00:09] <munckfish> volunteer world
[00:09] <munckfish> what about you are you full time Canonical?
[00:13] <bryyce> yep, pretty much
[00:14] <bryyce> in theory I also do Inkscape in my freetime, however I find myself more often just working extra hours on Xorg instead
[00:14] <munckfish> bryyce: right, somehow I'm not surprised
[00:15] <munckfish> were you at DebConf 07 ?
[00:15] <bryyce> nope
[00:15] <munckfish> I remember sitting in on various stuff, saw some of the debian X maintainers there of course
[00:16] <munckfish> really inspired to get involved actually
[00:16] <bryyce> cool
[00:16] <munckfish> and it was here in Edinburgh so I didn't have to move very far
[00:16] <munckfish> :)
[00:39] <munckfish> blimey xserver build takes quite a while - I'm sure this is longer than the kernel build time now. Is it possible to use ccache when building the xserver deb?
[00:41] <bryyce> sure
[00:41] <bryyce> I think also it's set up by default to use -j0; I've been wanting to figure out how to make it use more cpu's (I have a 4 cpu system that goes woefully underutilized)
[00:42] <bryyce> bbiab
[00:44] <mvo> munckfish: anything new about the ps3 kernel ?
[00:47] <munckfish> mvo: umm I cheated a bit
[00:47] <munckfish> I didn't use the update manager in the end
[00:47] <munckfish> sorry
[00:47] <munckfish> :S
[00:48] <munckfish> first I installed linux-powerpc64-smp
[00:48] <munckfish> then upgraded using the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgradesManual
[00:48] <munckfish> but converted for hardy
[00:49] <munckfish> so I now have a functioning hardy base
[00:49] <munckfish> and the kernel thing is fine
[00:50] <munckfish> so, I'll need to revisit gutsy at some point to try out the upgrade
[00:50] <munckfish> then I can tell you if there are any problems
[00:52] <munckfish> mvo: what solution can we use to solve the upgrade path problem? meta package? or something specific in the UpdateManager?
[00:55] <mvo> munckfish: a transitional package or a quirks rule in update-manager, both will work
[00:55] <mvo> the later is easier
[00:55] <mvo> for former more generic :)
[00:55] <munckfish> uhu
[00:55] <munckfish> so ... which would you recommend?
[00:56] <munckfish> taking into account that we've probably not got a chance
[00:56] <munckfish> to get hardy done for PS3 for it's initial release
[00:57] <mvo> a quirks rule in update-anager sounds fine
[00:57] <munckfish> excellent
[00:57] <mvo> I just need the name of the old and the new kernel package
[00:57] <munckfish> ok
[00:57] <munckfish> I tell you what
[00:57] <munckfish> ...
[00:58] <munckfish> I'm a little unsure of this
[00:59] <munckfish> Let me check this out a bit more thoroughly
[00:59] <mvo> munckfish: ok, no rush, just catch me within the next few days
[00:59] <mvo> munckfish: I need to go to bed now anyway
[00:59]  * mvo waves
[01:00] <munckfish> If I raise something in LP on it you'll see it right?
[01:32] <munckfish> bryyce: that patch fixed it
[01:33] <bryyce> excellent
[01:33] <munckfish> Now moving on to the wrong driver problem (vesa -> fbdev)
[01:33] <munckfish> bryyce: thx for that!
[01:34] <bryyce> :-)
[01:47] <munckfish> bryyce: ok my passing shot for tonight. I've uploaded a gdb session stepping through the chooseVideoDrver function
[01:47] <munckfish> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ps3-port/+bug/219424
[01:48] <munckfish> there's a lot of null pointers in it, and not much real action
[01:48] <munckfish> if you have a chance to review it
[01:48] <munckfish> and you need more or different traces let me know I'll get whatever we need.
[01:48] <munckfish> enjoy the conference
[01:49] <bryyce> ok cool
[01:50] <bryyce> conference has ended, I'm chillin' tonight and will be heading home tomorrow morning
[01:50] <munckfish> ok well safe journey, maybe speak over the weekend not sure. C ya!
[01:50] <bryyce> sure!
[09:12] <ubotu> New bug: #219487 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "Typing blocks external mouse" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219487
[09:19] <ubotu> New bug: #219424 in ubuntu-ps3-port "xorg-server wrongly tries to load 'vesa' driver instead of 'fbdev' on PS3" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219424
[09:22] <ubotu> New bug: #219353 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (main) "compiz corruption upon resume" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219353
[09:23] <ubotu> New bug: #219391 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "xv doesn't work on ATI ES1000" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219391
[09:58] <ubotu> New bug: #219350 in xorg (main) "wrong refresh rates shown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219350
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #219468 in xorg (main) "[Hardy] Synaptics touchpad disabled by default after upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219468
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #219548 in xorg (main) "Xorg constant 70% CPU load" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219548
[15:43] <ubotu> New bug: #214379 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "compiz.real crashed with SIGILL" [Medium,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214379
[16:55] <ubotu> New bug: #219620 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "AVM WLAN USB adapter causes ernel crash (dup-of: 200589)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219620
[17:06] <ubotu> New bug: #219624 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "nvidia driver (nvidia-glx or nvidia proprietary) crash the system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219624
[17:25] <komputes> is anyone in the office?
[17:27] <Q-FUNK> :)
[17:27] <Q-FUNK> I'm home
[17:30] <ubotu> New bug: #219630 in xorg-server (main) "please add "geode" to driver list in hw/xfree86/common/xf86AutoConfig.c" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219630
[17:51] <ubotu> New bug: #219639 in xorg (main) "[Hardy] the new X server with no xorg.conf does not work with nvidia restricted drivers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219639
[21:20] <ubotu> New bug: #219569 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "Touchpad ultra sensitive on kde (3.5.9 and 4) initialization (Hardy Heron)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219569


 Good Day Everyone!
 so i'm having a weird USB bug, have a sandisk 3.0 ntfs formatted, but isn't recognized at all when connecting on the 3.0 usb ports of my machine (not even shown in the dmesg)
 if i connect it via a usb 2.0 hub, it's shown
[05:40] <hateball> Do you have any other USB 3 device to test with?
[05:40] <hateball> To make sure the port is working as intended
 @hateball, yes sir, I tried with another 3.0 usb and 2.0 ubuntu 16.04 usb installer, no problems with those, also tested the another 3.0 usb port with no luck
[05:42] <hateball> Very weird
[05:43] <hateball> Afraid I don't have any ideas, but sounds like a kernel bug of some sort then
 the only port i haven't tested is the 2.0/esata, because is busy with a external hdd
[05:44] <valorie> @DGUERRERO you might have a broken bit inside
[05:45] <valorie> could be hardware rather than software
[05:46] <hateball> well if the device itself works in other ports, and other devices work in that same port...
 @valorie, but it's working fine in the 2.0 hub and in another laptop (the usb drive), and the USB port(s) are reading/writing fine in the other drives
 ah
 interesting, now it's showing this:
 (Photo, 486x203) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/FbPDe2Js/file_3048.jpg
 (not sure if the image can be seen in irc)
[05:51] <hateball> yeah it shows
[05:52] <hateball> then it at least recognizes the device
 @hateball, that's when connected at the 2.0 hub
[05:54] <hateball> IrcsomeBot: ah
 when connected directly, noteven a dmesg entry is shown
[05:55] <valorie> so, is it a multiboot image?
[05:55] <valorie> it might only be available if you boot from it
[05:55] <hateball> the kernel should recognize the device regardless of what is on it
 @valorie, it's a usb created with yumi, has multiple linux distros on it
[06:00] <valorie> thought so
 what other logs can I read to try to find the problem? syslog doesn't show anything either
 actually I found another problem, dhclient is sending dhcp requests every 5 seconds
[06:11] <hateball> DGUERRO: journalctl -x
 well, between this and my mail server being down, it seems it will be a ling night, better get some tea done...
 *long
 "colord-sane[28738]: [bjnp] create_broadcast_socket: ERROR - bind socket to local address failed - Address already in use"
[07:11] <enick_997> Good morning
 @enick_997, Hello
[07:48] <enick_997> o/
[07:49] <enick_997> Hmm, did my nick change -.-
[07:50] <lordievader> That's better.
[10:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[17:03] <user|52147> senha para instalar pacotes??
[18:11] <Homuru> hey I haven't using Kubuntu for about 2 months but today when I logging in it does not show any updates so is there any problem with that?
[18:24] <ozzzy> so... how does one get wireless networking going in kubuntu
[18:52] <BluesKaj> ozzzy, which wifi chip
[19:00] <ozzzy> bcm4322
[19:08] <BluesKaj> ozzzy, install broadcom-sta-dkms, it should bring the sta-source with it
[19:09] <BluesKaj> if not installed bt default
[19:09] <ozzzy> unable to locate
[19:10] <ozzzy> I get that no matter what package I want to install
[19:11] <BluesKaj> check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:12] <ozzzy> running an update
[19:13] <BluesKaj> then upgrade
[19:13] <ozzzy> ok... installing pkg
[19:17] <mgolden_> Homuru: make sure you're on either the most recent version or an LTS.
[19:21]  * ozzzy eyes the Win7 dvd
[19:26] <ozzzy> well... doesn't look like this'll work
[19:34] <BluesKaj> have your wifi connection a name and pw and chosen a wifi protocol in network manager?
[19:34] <BluesKaj> have you given
[19:43] <ozzzy> no networks show up
[19:45] <BluesKaj> so it's not seeing the router mac adress
[19:45] <ozzzy> I don't think it's enabling the nic
[19:46] <ozzzy> it shows up in lspci
[19:48] <genii> unclaimed?
[19:49] <ozzzy> now it won't even boot
[19:49] <ozzzy> LOL
[19:49] <BluesKaj> try this sudo dpkg -s bcmwl-kernel-source then sudo modprobe wl
[19:51] <ozzzy> it won't even respond to a ctrl-alt-del
[19:51] <ozzzy> mouse pointer moves
[19:54] <ozzzy> well... it appears to be shutting down
[19:54] <ozzzy> I have to go to the nursing home to see the missus
[19:58] <BluesKaj> gotta run some errands ...think i'll log off this pc for today
[20:21] <Bouffant> hello
[20:22] <Bouffant> Could someone help me with a problem I am having?
[20:23] <krytarik> Bouffant: Just ask the actual question.
[20:25] <Bouffant> Hi, I can get the sound test to work but no sound is coming out of my speakers for firefox or amarok
[20:27] <Bouffant> other solutions online mention gstreamer-properties but I can't seem to find the package
[20:33] <Bouffant> hello
[20:35] <Bouffant> hello could you help me with something? I can't get my sound working but the speaker test works fine.
[20:43] <aguitel> kubuntu boot time is 60s is that right ?
[21:01] <Fritigern_> I've an issue with installing snap packages. Each time I try to install one I get this message: https://pasteboard.co/GFFhasT.png
[21:02] <Fritigern_> This is the package that I am trying to install today, but this happens with other snaps too: https://uappexplorer.com/snap/ubuntu/ubuntu-social-kit
[21:06] <ahoneybun> Fritigern_: sudo snap install ?
[21:07] <ahoneybun> paste your : snap list
[21:10] <Fritigern_> Yes, i use sudo snap install <snap name>. The problem is NOT that the package isn;t found, the problem is that the loop device can;t be mounted for some reason.
[21:11] <Fritigern_> The failure to mount the loop device causes the snaps to be installed in a broken state, or not at all.
[21:17] <Fritigern_> ahoneybun: What will pasting the snap list accomplish anyway? It will only show you the list of installed snaps, their versions, origin and their status. It will give you no information about why the loop device can't be mounted.
[21:18] <ahoneybun> Fritigern_: I've heard of issues with one snap on flavors having issues
[21:18] <ahoneybun> the magic-device-tool snap
[21:18] <ahoneybun> but snaps work here
[21:21] <Fritigern_> I don't have that snap in my list. I don't even know what it would be for.
[22:38] <aguitel> how install minimal kubuntu-desktop ?
[23:52] <swatto> hello