[04:44] <xangua> supermatt1000: how did you install namoroka¿¿ using the daily/nightie ppa
[04:44] <iromli> but maybe there is a PPA for ff3.0
[04:44] <supermatt1000> i have no clue it installed it self
[04:44] <iromli> i used it for my amarok1.4
[04:44] <Guest75062> Gadg3t ... what version of Linux are you using
[04:45] <supermatt1000> oneday i updated every thing and i was stuck with namoroka
[04:45] <LinuxGuy2009> have fun guys
[04:45] <jhambo> kpackagekit doesn't find anything when I search for irssi even though I know that it's available from `apt-cache search irssi`.  I kpackagekit even the right program to use to install new software??
[04:45] <jhambo> I-->is
[04:45] <kenITR> Do I need to isolate my Home directory to protect it from kernel upgrades with Ubuntu
[04:46] <chd> so I downloaded a tar.gz file, how do I run what's inside it?
[04:46] <iromli> chd: extract it first
[04:46] <Out_Cold> kenITR, it's always a good idea to isolate /home
[04:46] <chd> iromli, then what?
[04:47] <iromli> it depends on the files inside the tar archive
[04:47] <butt3rfly_3ff3ct> LinuxGuy2009: i was installing AptonCD, but i can't found it in my main menu. so, where i can found it?
[04:47] <Gadg3t> Guest75062 ubuntu 9.10
[04:47] <iromli> chd: what are you trying to execute?
[04:48] <kenITR> Out_Cold, I can;t remember how I did that. Did I create a separate partition?
[04:48] <supermatt1000> woot i got rid of namoroka
[04:48] <jhambo> is kpackagekit the kde version of aptitude, synaptic etc...?
[04:48] <Out_Cold> ideally yes, another partition mounted at /home or /home/user
[04:48] <butt3rfly_3ff3ct> ok, i was installing AptonCD, but i can't found it in my main menu. so, where i can found it?
[04:48] <chd> abgx360
[04:48] <qwertyjustin> i have more than 1 user on my computer. & these other users can  see my home folder files, using their seperate user accounts! how is this active by default?
[04:49] <kenITR> reinstall?
[04:49] <iromli> cd to that directory
[04:49] <Out_Cold> kenITR, depends on your setup
[04:49] <red2kic> supermatt1000: woot i installed namoroka :)
[04:49] <kenITR> default
[04:49] <iromli> and try ./abgx360
[04:49] <chd> k
[04:49] <Out_Cold> kenITR, do you have any space left?
[04:49] <chd> here are the files in the dir
[04:49] <kenITR> I used all
[04:50] <supermatt1000> red2kic im sorry for me it is realy unstable and crashes all the time
[04:50] <chd> aclocal.m4, config.h.in configure, configure.ac, decomp, install-sh, makefile.am makefile.in missing readme
[04:50] <qwertyjustin> how can i stop other users from being able to see my home files?
[04:50] <chd> and an src folder
[04:50] <dsnyders> Hi all!  How do you boot an iso file without burning it to a disk?
[04:50] <supermatt1000> red2kic got to the point i couldent even go to the next page and it crashed
[04:50] <Out_Cold> kenITR, it's possible to shrink with gparted but i'd go with a proper partition table if you plan to keep it for any length of time
[04:50] <kenITR> qwertyjustin, strong password
[04:50] <iromli> chd: i see, you're trying to compile a source right?
[04:50] <Guest75062> Gadg3t ... on startup use down arrow key on keyboard to pick second on list .... then start in normal mode form list
[04:51] <tucemiux> qwertyjustin,  you have change the permissions on the files, first chown the files to yourself and then give them 700 permissions
[04:51] <chd> iromli, I'm not sure, this is the first time I've done it
[04:51] <red2kic> supermatt1000: You mean the latest firefox package? I have been using daily-ppa for long time and it is the only latest packages that causes the crashes lately (for me).
[04:51] <chd> sorry iromli I'll read the readme...dur
[04:51] <iromli> chd: type ./configure in your terminal
[04:51] <kenITR> Out_Cold, and how do I assign home to that partition?
[04:51] <Flannel> qwertyjustin: chmod o-rx /home/yourusername
[04:51] <Out_Cold> kenITR, sudo mount /dev/sda* /home
[04:51] <iromli> chd: okay
[04:52] <Out_Cold> switch * with proper #
[04:52] <Flannel> qwertyjustin: note: this may prevent you from using userdir for apache
[04:52] <qwertyjustin> great, so thats :    sudo chown 700 /home/justin    ?
[04:52] <Out_Cold> kenITR, then you add the line to /etc/fstab for a permanent solution
[04:52] <hiexpo> iromli,  - he is tgring to compile the abgx 360 is a tool to copy xbox games
[04:53] <Guest75062> Gadg3t ... on startup use down arrow key on keyboard to pick second on list .... then start in terminal and enter .... sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg .... this should reset your video to standard
[04:53] <iromli> hiexpo: that's nice :)
[04:53] <tucemiux> qwertyjustin, if youre doing it on your home directory it should already be setup,  you can also try what Flannel just told you
[04:53] <kenjy_> hi guys
[04:53] <ackt1c> hey
[04:53] <kenITR> Out_Cold, and if I do it when I install?
[04:54] <kenjy_> I am using ubuntu netbook remix and I need to add this to the firefox icon: "firefox -ProfileManager -no-remote %u" because I wanna launch the profile manager each time I open firefox
[04:54] <kenjy_> can you help me?
[04:54] <Out_Cold> kenITR, you do a manual installation and set up a partition for /boot, swap, /, /home
[04:54] <supermatt1000> red2kit yah i think
[04:55] <soreau> kenITR: Right click on the icon and click preferences?
[04:55] <soreau> kenjy: ^^
[04:55] <tucemiux> qwertyjustin, but if you have lets say another hard drive with data and not mounted in a home directory the way I make sure no one sees a folder is first I chown it to myself, sudo chown tucemiux:tucemiux, then I add the permissions, chmod 700 filename, youll have to do it recursively if youre doing it on a  directory
[04:55] <kenjy_> soreau, are you kidding ? ubuntu netbook remix only have open and favorite when you do right click in a icon
[04:56] <soreau> kenjy: Oh that sucks.
[04:56] <soreau> ! unr
[04:56] <Out_Cold> kenITR, on my server i just set up i have a 300mb /boot, 50gb /, 20gb /var and 4.5tb /home XD
[04:56] <kenjy_> soreau, absolutely agree
[04:56] <red2kic> supermatt1000: You can type "red2" --> Press TAB to autocomplete. I think this is happening to me too as of lately. I'm going to install another webbrowser -- Firefox-3.5.  Might be a good time to play around with Opera/Chrome too. :)
[04:56] <chd> configure:2488: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables what's this mean?
[04:57] <kenjy_> soreau, Im trying to edit the bash script in /usr/bin/firefox
[04:57] <steen444> will ubuntu 10.04 beta 2 be upgradable to the final release without reinstalling?
[04:57] <KB1JWQ> chd: Darned if I know.  That's a bit strange, what package is it coming from?
[04:57] <KB1JWQ> steen444: Yes.
[04:57] <chd> ./configure: line 2441: g++: command not found
[04:57] <KB1JWQ> !lucid | steen444
[04:57] <kenjy_> any better idea about launching firefox in ubuntu netbook remix?
[04:57] <KB1JWQ> chd: Install g++ then?
[04:57] <chd> sudo apt-get install g++?
[04:57] <deena> Hi
[04:57] <KB1JWQ> kenjy_: Launch it how?
[04:57] <steen444> cheers
[04:57] <KB1JWQ> chd: Try it and see.
[04:57] <soreau> kenjy: The hacky thing to do would be to rename the ff binary to something else, then make your script the name it thinks is the binary and then you can call the ff binary with whatever options
[04:57] <iromli> chd: you need to install build-essential package to compile
[04:57] <kenjy_> KB1JWQ, with profile manager
[04:57] <deena> i have fedora lvm partition
[04:57] <supermatt1000> red2kic, yup i been using chrome and chromium
[04:58] <chd> sudo apt-get install g++ worked
[04:58] <chd> should I run build-essential?
[04:58] <deena> if i do grub-install /dev/sda... it is not detecting fedora lvm partiition
[04:58] <iromli> chd: just install it
[04:58] <deena> anyway to fix this?
[04:58] <iromli> you'll need it later
[04:58] <soreau> chd: You should install build-essential if you're planning on using compilers and related developer tools
[04:58] <kenjy_> KB1JWQ, I need to launch firefox in this way "firefox -ProfileManager -no-remote %u" in ubuntu netbook remix
[04:59] <chd> definitely
[04:59] <Losha> chd: yes, also do:  sudo apt-get install build-essential as this will install other tools you'll probably need
[05:00] <sanders> hello
[05:00] <tucemiux> !hello | sanders
[05:00] <dsnyders> Hi all!  How do you boot an iso file without burning it to a disk?
[05:01] <sanders> i wish i had zune on this thing
[05:01] <tucemiux> dsnyders, sounds like you want to use virtualbox, youre talking about an iso that has an operating system?
[05:01] <tucemiux> !ot | sanders
[05:02] <dsnyders> tucemiux, I want to install ubuntu to a real machine, not a virtual one.
[05:03] <kenjy_> so no way?
[05:03] <dsnyders> tucemiux, I've copied the 9.10 install iso to an ext partition on the machine.
[05:03] <Losha> dsnyders: unetbootin is supposed to support doing a cd-less install http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[05:04] <dsnyders> Losha, sadly, the machine in question cannot boot from usb.
[05:04] <tucemiux> dsnyders, so you want to try karmic without installing it on your hard drive??? or do you want to dual boot into it without burning it to a CD?
[05:04] <dsnyders> tucemiux, Just a simple single boot install without having to burn a disk.
[05:05] <Losha> dsnyders: keep reading: "it can make a "frugal install" on your local hard disk if you don't have a USB drive"
[05:05] <cleverfoo> hey everyone, can someone help me setup a password less vnc server?
[05:05] <Gadg3t> Guest75062 i tried @ the pc and down would not work, so i used ssh and tried and still i get nothing
[05:05] <cleverfoo> it's only on localhost for some screen recording I'm working on
[05:06] <dsnyders> Losha, Hadn't gotten to that part yet.  I just did a quick scan.  Thanks for the link, BTW.
[05:06] <Zenker> how do i disable the start up music?
[05:06] <knoppies> zenker easily
[05:06] <soreau> cleverfoo: You want to use vncviewer to view another box with X running?
[05:07] <knoppies> Zenker, system->preferences->sound
[05:07] <ubuntu> hola
[05:07] <Zenker> knoppies then what ?
[05:08] <cleverfoo> soreau: nope, I want to setup a vncserver that is password less so I can attach with a tool that converts the vnc data into a flv
[05:08] <cleverfoo> soreau: I have most everything working
[05:08] <cleverfoo> but the password on the vnc session is annoying
[05:08] <bastid_raZor> Zenker: Sound theme = No Sounds
[05:08] <cleverfoo> i just wanted it to be password less
[05:09] <Zenker> knoppies ahh i dont want 2 disable them all just the start up sound
[05:09] <soreau> cleverfoo: I use vncviewer which doesn't require a password if the vino-server is configed for no password (sys>prefs>remote desktop)
[05:10] <tucemiux> dsnyders, i dont believe ubuntu works that way, you have to have a medium to install from, you can install the ISO from a usb drive, a server that hosts the ISO but it's not that easy, only systems administrators would take the hassle to do that, typically when installing on more than 10+ clients you would want to do something like that
[05:10] <knoppies> Zenker, Im still on 9.04. But on mine you can.
[05:10] <cleverfoo> soreau: that makes sense but I'm not using vino, I'm using vnc4server
[05:10] <bastid_raZor> !install | tucemiux dsnyders .. follow the tinyurl link.
[05:10] <soreau> cleverfoo: oh, not sure then
[05:10] <cleverfoo> soreau: thanks anyways
[05:10] <soreau> cleverfoo: Maybe look into the related man pages
[05:11] <soreau> cleverfoo: Or ask in ##linux
[05:11] <Zenker> knoppies ohh ok well thanks anyhow ;)
[05:11] <cleverfoo> soreau: cool
[05:11] <tucemiux> bastid_raZor, he has the ISO, how can he install it without burning the ISO to a CD?
[05:11] <bastid_raZor> tucemiux: if you read the link you will know.
[05:12] <knoppies> Zenker, anything to help. I would just have a look at the different tabs in there
[05:12] <mdel> hey all.. anyone ever boot a windows partition with virtualbox? i want the ability to still use the windows install natively if need-be, so im going this route
[05:12] <dsnyders> bastid_raZor, what in blazes is a C:\ drive? And what's winrar?
[05:12] <knoppies> mdel, I like the idea, I hope you can do that.
[05:12] <SuperMiguel> any one know if multisim 11 works with wine?
[05:13] <mdel> knoppies: yeah... i switched to ubuntu after php-cli crashes every 5 minutes
[05:13] <mdel> knoppies: i still need full power for heavy flash and photoshop work :(
[05:14] <mdel> honestly, its incredible having a real terminal finally doing web-development
[05:14] <mdel> i dont have to log into the staging server to get my grep on ;)
[05:14] <tucemiux> dsnyders, if he doesnt have any personal experience he will not know, youre generally wasting time with people that tell you to rtfm, just keep asking the same question, try different times and days, eventually someone who has done it personally will help you
[05:15] <knoppies> mdel, Im glad you liked the switch.
[05:15] <mdel> knoppies: ;)
[05:15] <mdel> something i've been meaning to do
[05:15] <gm|lap> mdel: if you desperately need those programs, wine usually helps
[05:15] <gm|lap> i don't know of any good alternatives to flash
[05:15] <mdel> gm|lap: nope, wine wont help with those
[05:15] <mdel> wine wont even handle CS2 sufficiently
[05:16] <gm|lap> in a pinch, GIMP works as a photoshop replacement
[05:16] <dsnyders> tucemiux, they are giving me good links though.  Burning disks to install stuff is a waste.
[05:16] <gm|lap> i did say "in a pinch" though
[05:16] <knoppies> gm|lap, he wants to run his windows partition in Virtual Box, without making it a virtual HDD.
[05:16] <mdel> gm|lap: yeah, ONLY in a pinch
[05:16] <gm|lap> as in, it has layers, and brushes, and some stuff
[05:16] <gm|lap> oh, righty, uh
[05:16] <mdel> and i've found the font rendering is sub-par
[05:16] <ardchoille> !ot
[05:16] <mdel> ardchoille: really?
[05:16] <mdel> feel better now?
[05:17] <cchildress> Hey everyone, I'm trying to set up an ipsec vpn, but I can't get ESPINUDP working. Everytime I start openswan it says it has to fall back on the old style nat-t. Does anyone know how to get ubuntu working with udp encapsulation?
[05:17] <mdel> annnnnyway... i've found some guides on virtuabox/windows partition booting
[05:17] <red2kic> Could somebody link me to Opera-Browser-64bit.deb? I'm having issues with my Firefox and lynx isn't helping me with that. :(
[05:17] <mdel> but it seems kludgey
[05:17] <bastid_raZor> dsnyders: C: is related to windows.. winrar is a rar application for windows.. at the bottom of the page it also gives a howto for a linux version of installing by the method you want.
[05:17] <Compsman> hi
[05:17] <bastid_raZor> tucemiux: glad to see you read the entire page too before commenting.
[05:17] <Compsman> questions.... windows exe inastaller.
[05:18] <gm|lap> Compsman: wine
[05:18] <Compsman> nooo
[05:18] <mdel> lol
[05:18] <Compsman> i mean how dows windows base unbuntu install?
[05:18] <gm|lap> when was the last time you used wine, 2000?
[05:18] <Compsman> does*'
[05:18] <tucemiux> dsnyders, i suggest you use a USB drive them, there is also a way so that you install whatever's necessary so that your machine boots up to the drive that youll be installing the stuff to, if you follow that guide one of those links will eventually show you how to do an installation of that type, i personall have used USB thumb drive, or if im testing an OS, I install the OS in virtualbox
[05:19] <dsnyders> tucemiux, The machine does not support booting from a usb.
[05:19] <gm|lap> Compsman: you can run ubuntu off the CD without touching your hard drive, and there's also an option to install it
[05:19] <Compsman> u can get a cd booter
[05:19] <gm|lap> i think you can boot into it as a live CD, and then install it from there
[05:20] <Compsman> yup
[05:20] <gm|lap> can you boot off the CD?
[05:20] <arch> any one use arch linux ?
[05:20] <Compsman> then all u need is syslinux booter to boot usb.
[05:20] <ardchoille> !ot | arch
[05:20] <tucemiux> dsnyders, in that case you will have to research on how to install without using a CD, one of the links in there will show you, just need to find the right one
[05:20] <tucemiux> arch, you can ask the guys in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:21] <gm|lap> arch: #archlinux if you need help
[05:21] <arch> I use ubuntu now
[05:21] <gm|lap> hmmkay... why were you asking, btw?
[05:21] <tucemiux> arch, ok so what is the problem you are experiencing with ubuntu?
[05:21] <Compsman> gm|lap, so how does the ubuntu installer for windows work?
[05:22] <susu> fsada
[05:22] <arch> I use lubuntu ,and I want to know how to make it work effective
[05:22] <susu> hello
[05:22] <bastid_raZor> dsnyders: if you do decide to follow the guide... sudo chmod `whoami`:`whoami` should be a sudo chown `whoami`:`whoami`
[05:22] <susu> what is the topic
[05:22] <gm|lap> Compsman: i'm not entirely sure, but if you have a standard USB stick, then i think it reformats your stick or something like that
[05:22] <susu> ?
[05:22] <dsnyders> tucemiux, That was my original question.
[05:22] <tucemiux> Compsman, that's probably a very generic question, i would suggest for you to try it unless you want the actual technical details and youre a developer
[05:22] <SuperMiguel> is there a wine channel?
[05:22] <bastid_raZor> SuperMiguel: #winehq
[05:22] <gm|lap> basically, booting off a USB stick is like booting off a hard drive
[05:23] <dsnyders> bastid_raZor, I saw that in the comments.  I'm going to give the http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ method a try first.
[05:23] <bastid_raZor> dsnyders: good luck.
[05:23] <Compsman> tucemiux, well i will try it on a empty ntfs part.
[05:23] <gm|lap> except there are some tricks it uses, at the early stages, your hard disks are, erm, "shifted along a letter"
[05:23] <arch> SuperMiguel,wine is not linux philosophy
[05:23] <gm|lap> but once it's all booted it should just act normally
[05:23] <tucemiux> dsnyders, i just pointed you at the right direction, on the link that bastid_raZor gave you might have the actual instructions
[05:24] <cchildress> does anyone in here know how to set up ipsec on ubuntu 9.10?
[05:24] <tucemiux> Compsman, you want to install wubi?
[05:24] <arch> 打个中文吧
[05:24] <Compsman> tucemiux, and the installer wants to install on ntfs drives. kinda like vmware.
[05:24] <xangua> SuperMiguel: yes there irs #winehq
[05:25] <Compsman> tucemiux,  and yes
[05:25] <NinoScript> can someone show me how to put a text file in the SED hold space/buffer? I don't quite understand the info google gave me, ##sed is almost empty and #bash isn't too active :P
[05:25] <tucemiux> Compsman, this is the first time I have heard that but then again it's been ages since i've used fat32 on an actual hard drive, ntfs is definetely the way to go if youre using windows
[05:26] <Compsman> tucemiux, yup win 7 8gb of ram.
[05:26] <tucemiux> NinoScript, that's not really an ubuntu issue, you can try again in the channel at another time and maybe day, if someone knows the answer they will let you know, you can also ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:26] <jhambo> when I put in a data cd, where can I go to browse the contents (in KDE)??
[05:26] <Compsman> tucemiux, i will come here and see what wubi does:p
[05:27] <ardchoille> jhambo: ask in #kubuntu
[05:27] <tucemiux> Compsman, installing wubi on windows is the same as installing anything else on windows, just click on the exe file and pray that it works
[05:27] <Compsman> tucemiux, so its a virtual drive.
[05:28] <tucemiux> jhambo, does kubuntu have a "places" link??
[05:28] <foxtech> anyone have tips on getting the microsoft life cam 3000 to work .. i updated to the 2.6.32rc8 kernel and i see it in the /dev ..but i get a light on and then nothing
[05:29] <tucemiux> Compsman, i almost tried ubuntu on wubi once but ran out of space, if I tried it yet again I would rather install a real ubuntu installation using virtualbox or better you, i would dual boot if i was you
[05:29] <tucemiux> Compsman, or better -=-yet--- not you, sorry
[05:29] <foxtech> if its showing video0 in the /dev dose that mean it should work>
[05:30] <Compsman> tucemiux, the wubi makes a boot entry for boot loader
[05:31] <Compsman> tucemiux,  reading the readme.
[05:31] <Compsman> could a bea  live iso emulator
[05:31] <tucemiux> Compsman, yeah if youll rather go with wubi then there it is, you can also try virtualbox on windows and install ubuntu on virtualbox, maybe then that would help you decide to dual boot, creating a dual boot is not hard
[05:32] <Compsman> tucemiux, yea i use the the for os x custom pc boot loader:p
[05:32] <dsnchntd> Hi, can someone help me?
[05:33] <dsnchntd> I burned the live cd and I booted into and tried the check cd for integrity test
[05:33] <tucemiux> !anybody| dsnchntd
[05:33] <dsnchntd> but no progress bar will come up
[05:33] <tucemiux> dsnchntd,  so you can boot up to the cd then?
[05:33] <dsnchntd> lol I did type my question at first, but I added the dumb question because I thought it was polite
[05:34] <dsnchntd> yeah I can boot into the cd but nothing comes up
[05:34] <Compsman> dsnchntd, wait for a bit?
[05:34] <Compsman> dsnchntd, sometimes it can take a bit.
[05:34] <dsnchntd> I waited about 20 min and saw nothing so I thought there was something wrong
[05:34] <dsnchntd> it was just a black screen
[05:35] <Compsman> try add -live ahci off
[05:35] <Compsman> if thats right
[05:35] <dsnchntd> x.x okay, before I turn off my laptop to try it again, could you give me an idea of how long is too long?
[05:36] <ackt1c> iRC
[05:37] <Compsman> 1 hr
[05:37] <tucemiux> dsnchntd, i generally dont waste my time with that since i've had mixed results
[05:37] <cchildress> can someone help me with ipsec udp incapsulation? It fails and tries to fall back on an older method of nat-t.
[05:37] <wyggler2> in the appearance setting for background there is a choice that shows several astronomy pictures as a group of wallpapers.  Is it possible to add a new group of wallpapers?
[05:38] <tucemiux> dsnchntd, i usually check the md5 sums, if i have a match i go ahead if not then I download again
[05:38] <slooblack> yo
[05:38] <Compsman> dsnchntd, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[05:38] <foxtech> so no word on the my cam question ?
[05:38] <SuperMiguel> is there a way to fool wine to think you have internet explorer installed?
[05:39] <mdel> SuperMiguel: install IE?
[05:39] <tucemiux> SuperMiguel, there probably is,  i would read up on the forum
[05:39] <SuperMiguel> mdel, i did using this: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=469 and it keeps saying that i dont have it, im installing a program that needs it
[05:40] <SuperMiguel> mdel, i can open ie no problem, but when i try to install this program it asks me for ie :S
[05:40] <mdel> SuperMiguel: hrm, sorry im not a big wine person
[05:40] <mdel> check fora
[05:41] <foxtech> ok can any one at least see my text ..
[05:41] <crucialhoax> foxtech: yes
[05:41] <foxtech> ok thanks
[05:41] <ackt1c> yep
[05:42] <foxtech> the color was just diffrent and i wasent sure
[05:42] <xangua> SuperMiguel: why do you want ie¿
[05:43] <SuperMiguel> xangua, trying to install multisim in wine,  which requires ie..
[05:43] <jhambo> are dvd's supposed to be automatically mounted somewhere or do I have to do something special in order to access it??
[05:44] <crucialhoax> jhambo: they should auto mount with a desktop icon
[05:44] <red2kic> jhambo: You will have to install codecs if you haven't done that.
[05:44] <red2kic> !dvd | jhambo
[05:44] <dsnchntd> thanks a lot guys!
[05:46] <ackt1c> ubuntu > XP?
[05:47] <red2kic> ackt1c: We're in #ubuntu channel. Course we're going to say yes.
[05:48] <ackt1c> okie
[05:48] <bastid_raZor> ackt1c: still at it?
[05:48] <jhambo> red2kic: are the codecs necessary for a data dvd?
[05:48] <ackt1c> it runs in my head
[05:48] <red2kic> ackt1c: But that was not the point. I never went back to Windows when I started using linux few years ago. If that help you at all. :)
[05:48] <dsnyders> red2kic, ackt1c, unless we're talking about price, of course.
[05:48] <jhambo> crucialhoax: they don't seem to be auto mounting
[05:49] <red2kic> jhambo: Assuming you're talking about movies, you'll need codecs.  As for regular data dvd, I'm not sure but that should be mounted automatically (in Gnome).
[05:51] <foxtech> im new to linux .. is there a way to just load or update drivers like with windows of do i need to patch the kernel everytime i make a change ??
[05:52] <dsnyders> foxtech, You don't need to patch the kernel.  There is a program called synaptic which can load updates
[05:53] <Compsman> tucemiux, its downloading a iso (torrent)
[05:53] <crucialhoax> jhambo: Is it in the /media folder?
[05:54] <foxtech> ok .. i just wanted to try diffrent drivers for my webcam and see if i could get it to work
[05:55] <foxtech> the kernel i have installed now is the 2.6.32rc and it was said this one would work with my cam but im not so sure
[05:55] <ardchoille> foxtech: are you running Lucid?
[05:55] <dsnyders> foxtech, your best off to google for your webcam model and ubuntu
[05:56] <foxtech> im not sure how could i check i think its
[05:57] <ardchoille> foxtech: lsb_release -cs
[05:58] <foxtech> karmic ..
[05:59] <ackt1c> yeah
[05:59] <ardchoille> foxtech: Then how did you get kernel 2.6.32rc ?
[05:59] <crucialhoax> there is not much difference between Ubuntu and Debian is there? Besides art, branding etc?
[05:59] <ardchoille> crucialhoax: There is quite a difference
[05:59] <ackt1c> not really
[05:59] <foxtech> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.32-rc8/  from here
[05:59] <crucialhoax> ardchoille: explain please
[06:00] <crucialhoax> ackt1c: I did not think so, but that is why I am asking lol.
[06:00] <ardchoille> crucialhoax: differences i app versions, file locations, dangerous to use .deb packages made for debian, etc.
[06:01] <bastid_raZor> ackt1c is a troll. beware of his murmurings
[06:01] <crucialhoax> ardchoille: Dangerous to use .deb packages made for debian?
[06:01] <ardchoille> crucialhoax: yes
[06:01] <crucialhoax> dangerous for ubuntu?
[06:02] <ardchoille> crucialhoax: there is enough of a difference between debian and Ubuntu that using a .deb package made for debian can do more harm than good
[06:02] <bastid_raZor> !debian
[06:02] <ardchoille> There ya go
[06:02] <ardchoille> bastid_raZor: Thanks
[06:02] <crucialhoax> perfect
[06:02] <crucialhoax> thanks
[06:03] <bastid_raZor> ardchoille: the bot knows all :)
[06:03] <ardchoille> indeed
[06:03] <foxtech> ardchoille: what is the diff with karmic and lucid ?
[06:03] <ardchoille> !lucid | foxtech
[06:07] <voss749> ardchoille, depends on the package, and how critical it is
[06:07] <crucialhoax> I guess there is quite a difference... now I know lol.
[06:07] <ardchoille> voss749: It's best to stick with .deb packages made for Ubuntu.
[06:08] <voss749> ard, sometimes the ubuntu packages are too old. Like freeciv
[06:09] <gasgesgos> plenty of older packages lurking in the repos, be sure to check version numbers when installing as a pre-requisite for another app
[06:09] <cchildress> does anyone know how to fix "ipsec__plutorun: 003 NAT-Traversal: ESPINUDP(1) setup failed for new style NAT-T family IPv4 (errno=19)"
[06:09] <ardchoille> If a package in the repos is "too old", then the user needs to find an Ubuntu PPA or compile it. It's best to stick with Ubuntu packages.
[06:10] <tony_>  /join #el-lnx eternallinux
[06:10] <ackt1c> [10:10pm] [N] #el-lnx Cannot join channel (+k) - bad key
[06:12] <vahe_> quick question guys, trying to install ubuntu 10.04 beta on a seperate hard drive on my windows system. The installer will not see this specific drive (sees the other two). When I run it in Live CD, ubuntu sees this drive and its content. This drive had opensuse installed previously. I had deleted that volume using windows disk management and the ubuntu installer stil does not see it
[06:12] <ardchoille> !lucid | vahe_
[06:12] <vahe_> thanks
[06:13] <ardchoille> yw
[06:13] <bastid_raZor> ackt1c: are you seriously still at it? i would have thought the several kicks you've had would have beaten the message through.
[06:14] <tonechef> I have a newer MacBook.. not a power macbook. the cheaper aluminum one.. since its an intel cpu.. would I just install the normal 9.10 32bit i assume?
[06:15] <bastid_raZor> !macbook | tonechef
[06:15] <tonechef> I dont wanna dual boot
[06:15] <tonechef> i want to get rid of osx
[06:15] <bastid_raZor> tonechef: read the entire factoid.
[06:16] <tonechef> but ill check out the link thanks
[06:16] <tonechef> yes i see.. thanks
[06:16] <red2kic> tonechef: Why? (I'm just wondering why people would want to get rid of OSX?  Hardware)
[06:16] <tonechef> uhh..
[06:16] <bastid_raZor> tonechef: good luck
[06:16] <tonechef> well I like os-x and everything.. but.. i dont like having to pay for all the software upgrades each time a new version of os-x comes out.. and i hate itunes..
[06:17] <tonechef> and all i really do is browse the internet.. and record music.. but i can do that in linux just fine
[06:17] <red2kic> tonechef: Gotcha. :)
[06:18] <red2kic> tonechef: I have been wondering if I ought to buy it off eBay (because of hardware, nice battery life).
[06:18] <tonechef> the mac's are built very nicely which is why i bought mine
[06:18] <tonechef> and they aren't overpriced like ppl say.. i got mine brand new for about 1300
[06:19] <tonechef> and i dont care what anyone says, they are built wayyy supeior to any other laptops in that price range
[06:19] <tonechef> spelling .. ignore
[06:22] <emergency> hey everyone, i need some heavy help. i was dua booting win 7 + ubuntu 9.10. then i was upgrading 9.1 to 10.04 when the grub installation near the end got corrupted somehow. now there is a "GRUB error" (considering it's screwy) message after the bios option to where i can't choose to boot up in either win or ubuntu
[06:23] <ardchoille> !lucid | emergency
[06:23] <emergency> i've tried putting my recovery disk for windows back in, but it won't get rid of the screwed up grub settings, and now i'm running off of a spare 9.10 disk which is having trouble installing
[06:24] <emergency> well, i think during the upgrade i chose to replace my current grub settings with the new one which froze during the installation. it would have been wrong any
[06:25] <emergency> is there any way to wipe everything clean using the live disk without installing it? i just can't rid of grub
[06:26] <ackt1c> yeah
[06:26] <BenjaminB> .сдщыу
[06:26] <ackt1c> there is
[06:26] <ranjan> hi all...anybody using bugzilla here??
[06:26] <donny> hi
[06:26] <ackt1c> File.New.Form.Full.
[06:27] <donny> Hello
[06:28] <hiexpo> !hi
[06:29] <Alcor> hi
[06:31] <rocket16> Is KGrub Editor unavailable in Ubuntu 9.10?
[06:31] <ackt1c> i think its Gedit
[06:34] <Alcor> When I try to set up file sharing, After I input a passwd, I get a file sharing service fail error.. NE ideas?
[06:35] <ackt1c> brb
[06:38] <Choowiy> hay............\
[06:38] <Choowiy> hay..............
[06:38] <crucialhoax> whats up
[06:39] <Choowiy> leh jadi tmn g'.........?
[06:39] <crucialhoax> I just updated and now my laptop fan is going crazy haha
[06:39] <Choowiy> hey.......... pake indonesia aja ...........
[06:40] <rocket16> Ah, I am downloading Lucid Alternate. Is there any bug in the installer?
[06:40] <crucialhoax> !lucid | rocket16
[06:40] <iromli> !ot | Choowiy
[06:40] <Choowiy> ah..........g' tau................
[06:42] <kenITR> Brand new to Ubuntu (coming from Fedora). Where is the Firewall Manager?
[06:43] <crucialhoax> kenITR: sudo apt-get install gufw
[06:43] <crucialhoax> kenITR: ufw is the default but it does not have a GUI, gufw is the GUI
[06:44] <iromli> Choowiy: please grown up, this channel is not for a chit chat talk
[06:44] <kenITR> Thanks, crucialhoax
[06:44] <Choowiy> ah..................... sorry I don't know whats themining
[06:45] <ThomasG33K> blah
[06:46] <crucialhoax> kenITR: No problem.
[06:46] <crucialhoax> How do you see what the most recent packages that were updated?
[06:46] <kenITR> crucialhoax, hmmm. I just want to open a port.
[06:47] <crucialhoax> kenITR: that should do it
[06:48] <miato> hello
[06:48] <crucialhoax> !hi | miato
[06:48] <miato> i am installing chrome but i dont know where to launch it
[06:48] <crucialhoax> miato: did you install it from the google site
[06:49] <crucialhoax> ?
[06:49] <miato> yes
[06:49] <miato> from chrome site
[06:49] <crucialhoax> miato: Ok, it is under Applications > Internet > then the chrome icon
[06:49] <miato> i dont see any chrome icon there
[06:50] <oDoyle> chrome
[06:50] <miato> yes
[06:50] <miato> i dont see any chrome icon there
[06:51] <crucialhoax> miato: Open a terminal
[06:51] <miato> then
[06:51] <iromli> miato: it should be on Application>Internet
[06:51] <crucialhoax> type cd /opt/
[06:51] <miato> then
[06:51] <crucialhoax> type ls
[06:52] <crucialhoax> what displays?
[06:52] <miato> laptop:/opt$ ls
[06:52] <miato> google
[06:52] <crucialhoax> type cd google/
[06:52] <miato> ok
[06:52] <miato> then
[06:53] <crucialhoax> cd chrome/
[06:53] <miato> ok then
[06:53] <crucialhoax> google-chrome
[06:54] <miato> u mean ?
[06:54] <miato> cd google-chrome ?
[06:54] <iromli> miato: or you can try Alt+F2 and type 'google-chrome'
[06:54] <crucialhoax> no just as I typed. google-chrome
[06:54] <oDoyle> You want him to launch it using ./
[06:54] <miato> it shows laptop:/opt/google/chrome$
[06:55] <crucialhoax> miato: It is installed, but when you typed 'google-chrome' did it run?
[06:55] <oDoyle> whois crucialhoax
[06:55] <kenITR> this distro doesn't come with SSH?
[06:55] <miato> then ?
[06:55] <crucialhoax> kenITR: Not by default.
[06:55] <miato> nope crucialhoax
[06:55] <miato> it not run
[06:56] <crucialhoax> iromli: True, I was typing the wrong command which is why I was doing it this way...
[06:56] <kenITR> Whoa. I'm really surprised by this distro
[06:56] <crucialhoax> kenITR: why is that?
[06:56] <crucialhoax> miato: Is that same terminal still open?
[06:56] <miato> it not run what should i do
[06:56] <miato> yes
[06:56] <Out_Cold> i followed this guide: http://www.evileyez.org/quick-and-dirty-linux-software-raid5/ everything went smooth until restart... now i have no md0 and am not sure where to start troubleshooting..
[06:56] <miato> still open
[06:57] <crucialhoax> miato: type 'cd'
[06:57] <crucialhoax> miato: without the quotes
[06:57] <kenITR> no service manager, no network manager, no SSH, no apache, kinda bare bones
[06:57] <miato> ok
[06:57] <miato> then
[06:57] <crucialhoax> kenITR: Yes, it is. and Ubuntu does have a network manager...
[06:57] <iromli> miato: type this on your terminal '/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome'
[06:57] <crucialhoax> miato: type 'google-chrome'
[06:58] <miato> nothing happen
[06:58] <kenITR> why do we like this distro?
[06:58] <iromli> crucialhoax: i think you forget ./
[06:58] <crucialhoax> iromli: Chrome on my laptop launches with just 'google-chrome'
[06:59] <crucialhoax> miato: type this 'whereis google-chrome'
[06:59] <oDoyle> that works, you can also use ./chrome if you want...
[06:59] <crucialhoax> miato: what does it say?
[06:59] <miato>  whereis google-chrome
[06:59] <miato> google-chrome: /usr/bin/google-chrome /usr/share/man/man1/google-chrome.1
[06:59] <crucialhoax> miato: It is installed...
[06:59] <crucialhoax> oDoyle: bash: ./chrome: No such file or directory
[06:59] <xiven> Hi guys
[06:59] <miato> but i cant launch it
[07:00] <iromli> miato: cd to /opt/google/chrome and type ls -l
[07:00] <xiven> I just installed a fresh copy of Karmic, I changed the screen resolution from 1024x768 85.0, to 1280x1024 75.0, which is what it has always worked best with. Now, I get the desktop, but no panels whatsoever. I have to create a launcher for xterm, and open up apps by command.
[07:01] <iromli> miato: check whether google-chrome is executable
[07:01] <crucialhoax> miato: System > Preferences > Main Menu > on the left hand side look for 'Internet' click it > is Google chome there?
[07:01] <oDoyle> crucialhoax | could be a bad install. Do you think removing it and reinstalling using synaptic would resolve the issue?
[07:01] <xiven> I've tried to reset it using xrandr, but the screen blinks to a black screen, with the mouse in the upper right, and the system appears to be frozen.
[07:01] <crucialhoax> oDoyle: It works fine...
[07:02] <crucialhoax> oDoyle: chrome does not use the standard set-up method.
[07:02] <miato> nope crucialhoax
[07:02] <miato> no chrome on it
[07:03] <crucialhoax> miato: in the terminal type: /usr/bin/google-chrome
[07:03] <miato> ok then
[07:03] <miato> not a directory
[07:03] <crucialhoax> what command did you type?
[07:04] <miato> i type /usr/bin/google-chrome and cd /usr/bin/google-chrome
[07:04] <miato> both no directory
[07:04] <xiven> What is the command to bring up the Display Graphical Administration tool?
[07:05] <crucialhoax> miato: At the desktop or home screen press and hold the ALT key then press F2
[07:05] <miato> when i type that it disable my wireless
[07:05] <crucialhoax> miato: hmmm.
[07:06] <crucialhoax> miato: Ok... nevermind then
[07:06] <rocket16> Does Empathy need less memory than Pidgin?
[07:06] <crucialhoax> rocket16: About the same
[07:06] <rocket16> If not, what is the advantage of Epathy over Pidgin?
[07:06] <miato> what should i do
[07:06] <crucialhoax> miato: type this again. /usr/bin/google-chrome copy and paste it
[07:06] <rocket16> crucialhoax: Ok, but still, isn't there any advantage of Empathy over Pidgin?
[07:07] <crucialhoax> rocket16: User preference. Pidgin supports file transfer over most networks, where as Empathy only does XMPP
[07:07] <miato> i type /usr/bin/google-chrome
[07:07] <miato> nothing happen
[07:07] <neutrino__> how do i supress Xorg starup output on the console?  i read the FAQ.  i tried -quiet.  i'm currently using nohup to hide the output in nohup.out.  is there another way?  here's the output i get (nothing exciting): http://sprunge.us/aaVQ  everytime i switch between console and X i get this.
[07:07] <crucialhoax> miato: yes
[07:07] <stopsign> lol
[07:07] <kenITR> The default webroot is /var/www?
[07:07] <miato> nothing happen
[07:07] <crucialhoax> type ps -A | grep chrome
[07:08] <robbmunson> kenITR, yes
[07:08] <kenITR> This is like another country
[07:08] <hxcgaming12> lol
[07:08] <miato> nothing happen too
[07:08] <monkeytwin> anyone know font and fontsize "pterm" uses ?
[07:08] <robbmunson> kenITR, you must use sudo or gksudo to copy files to that directory (its owned by root)
[07:09] <ardchoille> !root | kenITR
[07:09] <iromli> miato: try to reinstall chrome
[07:09] <xiven> How can I instruct xrandr to try each display mode that is saved, until it finds the right one?
[07:09] <crucialhoax> miato: type uname -m what is the output?
[07:09] <robbmunson> ardchoille, you beat me to the punch =)
[07:09] <miato> i686
[07:09] <crucialhoax> miato: Did you install a 32 bit version of chrome?
[07:11] <kenITR> robbmunson, how can I use sudo from another computer?
[07:11] <xiven> crucialhoax> How can I tell GDM/XServer  to rescan for monitor modes, and use the one it finds best?
[07:11] <crucialhoax> kenITR: SSH
[07:11] <robbmunson> kenITR, ssh
[07:11] <kenITR> right but if root owns the dir how do I ssh there?
[07:11] <crucialhoax> xiven: I do not know as I know very little about X
[07:11] <xiven> Oka
[07:11] <miato2> sorry i'm disconnect
[07:11] <robbmunson> kenITR, you dont...
[07:11] <miato2> crucialhoax> miato: type uname -m what is the output?
 i686
[07:12] <xiven> I'm just trying to get back my Gnome menus, and panels....
[07:12] <kenITR> what!?
[07:12] <robbmunson> you log into a normal user account with ssh, and run sudo, it automatically changes to a temporary root user for that one command....
[07:12] <rocket16> Hmm, sounds like Pidgin is better, :( I was an Empathy fan, but... Thinking to make a switch to Pidgin, :(
[07:12] <crucialhoax> rocket16: Pidgin is nice :)
[07:12] <robbmunson> kenITR, sudo is like "hey big brother can I borrow your keys for one second?"
[07:12] <xiven> crucialhoax> When I changed my screen resolution, it made it so I cannot see anything but  the background and icons...and the screen doesn't scroll.
[07:12] <miato2> crucialhoax then
[07:13] <rocket16> crucialhoax: Yes, :( But, I feel sorry for Empathy, :(\
[07:13] <crucialhoax> kenITR: You want to access the /var/www from a differnt pc on the same network?
[07:13] <kenITR> normally I would do scp /var/www/html/ root@<IP_ADDRESS>:/var/www/html
[07:13] <rocket16> crucialhoax: Still, thank you :D
[07:13] <xiven> Pidgin sucks compared to Empathy in my opinion (however Empathy isn't free of its own diffficulties)
[07:13] <iromli> crucialhoax: is there a way to fix yahoo account in pidgin without upgrade pidgin?
[07:13] <kenITR> crucialhoax, yes
[07:14] <robbmunson> kenITR, no offense intended but isnt "sneakernet" another option for this?
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[07:14] <crucialhoax> ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:14] <slyrus> argh... anyone gotten hdmi audio to work on an h55 mobo?
[07:14] <xiven> rocket6>  do you know the command to open up  the Gnome Display Control ?
[07:14] <crucialhoax> kenITR:  ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Slyrus: use the output if: sudo lshw -C sound ,to find guides
[07:15] <crucialhoax> xiven: Do you have a GUI?
[07:15] <red2kic> rocket16: I like Pidgin. I even made few changes in pixmaps to suit my taste a tad better. :)
[07:15] <kenITR> crucialhoax, maybe a better option is to change the owner or group of www?
[07:15] <rocket16> red2kic: Oh, nice,:D
[07:15] <miato2> hello crucialhoax
[07:15] <crucialhoax> iromli: What do you mean?
[07:15] <miato2> crucialhoax> miato: type uname -m what is the output?
 i686
[07:15] <crucialhoax> miato2: Try re-installing
[07:15] <crucialhoax> kenITR: You can do that as well.
[07:15] <iromli> crucialhoax: i cant get my yahoo id worked on pidgin
[07:15] <miato2> how to reinstall
[07:15] <kenITR> crucialhoax, can you chmod in Ubuntu?
[07:15] <iromli> and i dont want to upgrade pidgin yet
[07:15] <miato2> where can i remove it
[07:16] <crucialhoax> kenITR: Yes
[07:16] <xiven> crucialhoax> I have Gnome, but can only see icons and background..I created a launcher to open xterm and started Empathy by cl
[07:16] <crucialhoax> kenITR: One second I will give you commands lol
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Iromli: get pidgin from the pidgin ppa. May help
[07:16] <red2kic> kenITR: You could "gksudo nautilus /var/www" too
[07:16] <kenITR> crucialhoax, well thank goodness for that!
[07:16] <slyrus> ActionParsnip: thanks. I've found a bunch of things that are close, tried the new realtek drivers, etc... but to no avail.
[07:16] <robbmunson> red2kic, different computer same network :)
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Iromli: yahoo change logon server like people change socks
[07:16] <miato2> how to uninstall chrome
[07:16] <iromli> ActionParsnip: yes, i knew it .... but for now i dont want to upgrade pidgin
[07:16] <miato2> command ?
[07:16] <crucialhoax> iromli: Click on accounts > add > then re-type all of your info
[07:17] <crucialhoax> xiven: Create a new panel?
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Slyrus: that's all I know. I don't use hdmi, too much heartache
[07:17] <red2kic> robbmunson: Personal HTTP Server?
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Iromli: it may be necessarey
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Sp.
[07:17] <xiven> You mean calling gnome-panel??
[07:17] <slyrus> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks
[07:17] <iromli> ActionParsnip: i see
[07:17] <robbmunson> red2kic, I believe so....
[07:17] <crucialhoax> kenITR: You need to add yourself to the www-data group
[07:17] <usuario_> ola
[07:17] <usuario_> esssssssssssssssssstas
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Iromli: you could websearch around for recent guides. You may simply have to change the logon server used
[07:18] <robbmunson> kenITR, I will be back in a second...but these guys know what they are doing...have fun boys and girls!
[07:18] <crucialhoax> miato2: Just re-install over it
[07:18] <xiven> crucialhoax> When I call gnome-panel it says Adding applet 1-6, but says it cannot find the session manager or name or something
[07:18] <kenITR> thanks guys, gotta hit the sack.
[07:18] <usuario_> en ispanis
[07:18] <crucialhoax> kenITR: Cya.
[07:19] <Madpilot> ubottu, es | usuario_
[07:19] <iromli> ActionParsnip: yup, already done it ... but nothing's work
[07:19] <iromli> i guess i should upgrade pidgin :(
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> iromli: yahoo are a weird bunch
[07:19] <oDoyle> crucialhoax: I'm using mint, but shouldn't chrome appear in the package manager once it's installed?
[07:19] <iromli> ActionParsnip: LOL
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Iromli: try it, you can always remove the ppa and reinstall the version you have
[07:19] <oDoyle> chrucialhoax: in standard ubuntu I mena
[07:19] <crucialhoax> xiven: If you are in a GUI environment why are you using the terminal to get the panel back? right click and click new panel
[07:19] <red2kic> robbmunson, kenITR: You could "ln -s /var/www /home/$USER/public" -- Then on any computers, do "http://<ip-here>/public"
[07:20] <red2kic> robbmunson: Not sure what he's trying to do though.
[07:20] <miato2> ok i reinstall and its showing up
[07:20] <miato2> thank you
[07:20] <crucialhoax> oDoyle: Yes, after it is installed it is in the repos and has its own sources.list entry.
[07:20] <crucialhoax> miato2: Glad it is working :)
[07:21] <iromli> miato2: finally :D
[07:21] <crucialhoax> red2kic: Or add the user to the www-data group and chmod the /var/www folder
[07:21] <xiven> Hmm
[07:21] <oDoyle> grats miato2
[07:21] <miato2> thanks all for helping
[07:21] <crucialhoax> miato2: No problem.
[07:21] <nomad77> !es > usuario_
[07:21] <xiven> crucialhoax> I got it to change to 1024x768 resolution, but the screen it pretty large, and the monitor is a 19"
[07:22] <robbmunson> trying to copy files from one computer to another computers "web directory" in the same network red2kic
[07:22] <rocket16> Ah! Pidgin is awesome!
[07:22] <xiven> What do all the numbers to the right of resolution mean coming from xrandr?
[07:23] <xiven> rocket6> You prefer Pidgin to Empathy?
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: runs on windows too
[07:23] <rocket16> Yes, :)
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> Xiven: i'd say so. Switched to irssi recently though ;)
[07:23] <knoppies> xiven, I prefer pidgin to empathy
[07:23] <red2kic> xiven: Refresh Rates.
[07:23] <robbmunson> red2kic, I mean from any folder in one computer to the folder /var/www on the server...
[07:23] <knoppies> xiven, I do not use it for irc, I use xchat instead
[07:24] <xiven> red2kic> Hmm well xrandr has four of those numbers listed by the resolution I'm currently using
[07:24] <red2kic> robbmunson: Gotcha. I suppose he want "ln -s /home/$USER/ /var/www/"  -- I think.
[07:24] <xiven> Well, two now actually
[07:24] <rocket16> Yes, I am trying to make the functionality of Xchat and Empathy combine in Pidgin, :)
[07:25] <xiven> I'm going to try changing the refresh rate from 85.0 to 75.0..
[07:25] <xiven> red2kic> Wait a second....should -any- refresh rate be 85.0???
[07:26] <crucialhoax> xiven: 60...
[07:26] <red2kic> xiven: Meh. It varies on the display (ie monitor).
[07:26] <crucialhoax> xiven: Could be higher, but mine is 60 lol
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> My old ctx could pull 120hz easily. Why is 85 outrageous?
[07:27] <xiven> Well xrandr --output VGA1 --rate 60.0 worked..but it didn't say anything...or do anything visually.
[07:27] <xiven> Hmm
[07:27] <xiven> The only thing my monitor says is ESA
[07:27] <tp43> I had a question about the internet.  How do you register a domain name directly.  I mean you can go to godaddy, or yahoo, ... but what if you wanted to pay less, how do you go direct to buy a domain from the main source?
[07:27] <xiven> I know its an ESA Flat-Screen CRT 19"...
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> !ot | tp43
[07:27] <tp43> crt lol
[07:28] <red2kic> tp43: GoDaddy is terrible. :(  (Use #ubuntu-offtopic).
[07:28] <SuperMiguel> tp43, u cant
[07:28] <ThomasG33K> tp43: Dreamhost
[07:28] <xiven> tp43> Find out what organization adminstrates the domain extension you want
[07:28] <Madpilot> tp43, domain registry is decentralized. there is no 'main source'
[07:28] <Madpilot> and this is offtopic for #ubuntu :)
[07:28] <xiven> Screw DreamHost, I'd use MediaTemple if I was to use one of them
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Madpilot: was just typing that ;)
[07:29] <tp43> can we meet in offtopic about this one please, guys, those interested?
[07:29] <xiven> red2kic> Shouldn't my screen at least flicker or something after I change the refresh rate?
[07:29] <robbmunson> marvelous idea tp43 :)
[07:29] <neutrino__> tp43: you have to become a registrar.  and that requires $$$.
[07:30] <red2kic> xiven: I don't know. I rarely have to use xrandr to set a resolution.
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Right kids off to earn some cash, back in 12 hours
[07:30] <xiven> What do you use??
[07:31] <xiven> I usually use the Administration>Display, but I cannot access it right now obviously
[07:31] <crucialhoax> xiven: With the display preferences open if I do a ps aux | grep xran nothing shows up..
[07:33] <crucialhoax> xiven?
[07:33] <xiven> Yes
[07:33] <crucialhoax> try gnome-display-properties from the terminal
[07:33] <SuperMiguel> how do i edit path of things on my application menu??
[07:34] <crucialhoax> SuperMiguel: System > Preferences > Main Menu
[07:34] <SuperMiguel> crucialhoax, thanks
[07:34] <red2kic> SuperMiguel: Right-click and Edit Menu?
[07:34] <xiven> That worked
[07:34] <red2kic> SuperMiguel: (On the menu).
[07:35] <xiven> Hmm
[07:35] <xiven> It opened..but clicking Apply didn't do anything
[07:36] <crucialhoax> SuperMiguel: No problem.
[07:37] <xiven> Hmm
[07:38] <xiven> Well I have tried all of the resolutions, with each refresh rate. The panels don't show up...but it says there is one running when I call the command.
[07:38] <JasonBourne> hi i tried using ubuntu and all i can say is i went right bak to windows 7 for my gaming system
[07:39] <JasonBourne> im playing sc2 with insane windows 7 graphics
[07:39] <tripelb> HEY! this is important. If the ipad can have a youtube-app so it doesnt have to use flash --- we should have one too!!
[07:39] <DPic> did the ubuntu server go down?
[07:39] <xiven> If you want to get around Flash, just adopt HTML 5
[07:39] <DPic> my install isn't fetching files
[07:40] <tripelb> Ubuntu has been a constant project for me. Just windows is $200 for one that can use legacy programs.
[07:40] <ThomasG33K> xiven: at least html5 is open source ish
[07:40] <xiven> It's completely open source
[07:40] <thebwt> is there a way to set up a bridge network connection without disabling netowrk-manager?
[07:40] <xiven> SVG is open, HTML is open, JavaScript, CSS are open...
[07:41] <ThomasG33K> i dont mind apple screwing up adobe
[07:41] <red2kic> !info bridge-utils | thebwt
[07:42] <red2kic> thebwt: That will works with network-manager.
[07:42] <xiven> red2kic> I don't get it..no matter what resolution/rate I use..the panels do not show up
[07:42] <rumpsy> !lucid
[07:42] <thebwt> red2kic: thanks!
[07:42] <red2kic> xiven: "killall gnome-panelser
[07:42] <red2kic> xiven: Meh. Bad commandz.
[07:43] <red2kic> xiven: "killall gnome-panel" ?
[07:43] <crucialhoax> ps -A | grep gnome-panel
[07:43] <rumpsy> is that a bad idea ugrading hardy to lucid even its beta2
[07:43] <crucialhoax> see if it is running first
[07:43] <tp43> so when Lucid is out, will it off the upgrade in my update manager, I wonder what is gonna be new and awesome
[07:44] <red2kic> tp43: Yes, it'll display a dialog. If it does not, you always can come back here. There also are !upgrade
[07:44] <xiven> 2767 ?   00:00:00 gnome-panel, output from ps -A...
[07:44] <xiven> Umm
[07:45] <rocket16> How to synchronize Xchat contacts to Pidgin?
[07:45] <xiven> What is the Name and Class supposed to be?
[07:45] <dbbolton> my laptop sporadically restarts or completely freezes, such that i have to restart by pressing alt+SysRq+B. i tried running from an ubuntu live cd, and it froze after about an hour.
[07:45] <apctr190> hi all ...can any one tell me how to set up a local repository mirror on ubuntu 9.10
[07:45] <rocket16> B)
[07:45] <crucialhoax> xiven is gdm even running?
[07:45] <crucialhoax> !ppa | apctr190
[07:46] <red2kic> rocket16: Uh. You don't have to sync anything. A list of users usually comes with any IRC client. If Pidgin isn't showing it, try to enable it somewhere.
[07:46] <indus> dbbolton, which version of ubuntu
[07:46] <rumpsy> !grep | rumpsy
[07:46] <nomad77> xiven:   try gnome-panel --restart
[07:46] <tripelb> HEY! this is important. If the ipad can have a youtube-app so it doesnt have to use flash --- we should have one too!!
[07:46] <rocket16> red2kic: Ok,
[07:46] <dbbolton> indus: i believe 9.04
[07:46] <dbbolton> indus: but i seriouslu doubt it is a software issue
[07:46] <indus> dbbolton, maybe something overheating?
[07:46] <red2kic> !info apt-mirror | apctr190
[07:46] <tripelb> HEY! this is important. If the ipad can have a youtube-app so it doesnt have to use flash --- we should have one too!!   Do we?
[07:46] <indus> dbbolton, did you try to hear the fans spinning?
[07:47] <dbbolton> indus: i cleaned it out. i have seen it shutdown while running with a core temp of 45C
[07:47] <indus> dbbolton, hmm
[07:47] <tripelb> How do you know what your core temp is?
[07:47] <indus> dbbolton, does it shutdown all the time
[07:48] <indus> dbbolton, maybe try watching the kernel messages sometime
[07:48] <crucialhoax> rocket16: The cool thing about X-Chat is a wallpaper inside the chat window :)
[07:48] <tripelb> my computer freezes. Are there "kernel messages to watch"?
[07:49] <crucialhoax> dbbolton: What is running when it crashes?
[07:49] <rocket16> crucialhoax: Yes, :) Gnome-XChat and XChat are nice for this, :)\
[07:49] <crucialhoax> my laptop goes dead when I plug in a USB mouse, not every time but sometimes it does.
[07:49] <crucialhoax> oh well :)
[07:49] <apctr190> ubottu: thanks..Please check this link,http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror
[07:49] <chrisl2424> what is the terminal code to install on an application
[07:49] <apctr190> ubottu: am i right??
[07:49] <crucialhoax> hahaha
[07:49] <xiven> I think when I call killall gnome-panel, it starts another automatically..but I still can't see it
[07:50] <red2kic> xiven: Press ALT+F1. If your resolution is too big, you might see something on top-left corner.
[07:50] <dbbolton> tripelb: from lm-sensors...
[07:50] <oDoyle> xiven : this may not help, but you can change resolutions using Ctrl|Alt + and -
[07:50] <rumpsy> apctr190: chrisl2424 , its a bot, programmed app, its not human
[07:50] <dbbolton> crucialhoax: one time just x, openbox, and xterm
[07:51] <chrisl2424> what is the terminal code to install something? Is it sudo apt get install .........?
[07:51] <crucialhoax> yes
[07:51] <crucialhoax> apt-get*
[07:51] <dbbolton> aptitude*
[07:51] <crucialhoax> meh
[07:51] <tripelb> my computer freezes. It sounds like dbbolton .. cntrol+SysRq+REISUB didnt work at all for me.
[07:51] <indus> chrisl2424, yeah sudo apt-get install <somename>
[07:51] <chrisl2424> ah --
[07:51] <chrisl2424> thanks
[07:52] <crucialhoax> chrisl2424: sudo apt-get install <package name>
[07:52] <xiven> Those hotkeys don't work
[07:53] <crucialhoax> dbbolton: Are there any external devices plugged in, possibly with shady drivers?
[07:53] <apctr190> and how to change splash image in 9.10??
[07:53] <crucialhoax> xiven: the alt+f1 does
[07:53] <dbbolton> crucialhoax: ac adapter, usb mouse. both of which i have used extensively for months
[07:54] <crucialhoax> dbbolton: Ok. Well.
[07:54] <tripelb> dbbolton, where do I find lmsensors (I searched in home folder and got nothing.
[07:54] <dbbolton> tripelb: lm-sensors is a package name
[07:54] <crucialhoax> /proc/acpi
[07:54] <xiven> alt+f1 isn't doing anything
[07:54] <crucialhoax> xiven: it opens the applications drop down..
[07:54] <dbbolton> tripelb: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/327
[07:54] <xiven> Hmm
[07:55] <xiven> Well, I can see it worked..but I still cannot actually see the panels..
[07:55] <tripelb> dbbolton, lmsensors - is a pachage name that gives "kernel messages to watch"?
[07:55] <xiven> I'll try modifying resolution again
[07:55] <dbbolton> tripelb: no, you asked me "how do you know the core temp"
[07:55] <tripelb> dbbolton, gone to read link. Will bb (if no freeze) sometime later.
[07:56] <crucialhoax> xiven: is gdm running?
[07:56] <tripelb> dbbolton, what does LMsensors do?
[07:56] <xiven> I am inside Gnome with GDM
[07:56] <indus> tripelb, try booting in safe graphics mode, probably its just a graphical freeze
[07:56] <oDoyle> xiven : you've run your monitors auto-configure?
[07:56] <tripelb> OH it reads the temp dbbolton , understood.
[07:56] <xiven> I just changed to 800x600, and there is no panel, and the icons look further up then they should be
[07:56] <crucialhoax> xiven: What about sudo restart gdm?
[07:56] <xiven> I'll try it
[07:57] <crucialhoax> xiven: you will have to log back in
[07:57] <xiven> Hmm
[07:57] <chrisl2424> i can't download armagetron from terminal
[07:57] <xiven> It says it cannot acquire DisplayManager name
[07:57] <crucialhoax> xiven: it logs you out of your current session.
[07:57] <ShazbotMcNasty> that works?
[07:57] <red2kic> crucialhoax: no service? o.o
[07:57] <crucialhoax> meh.
[07:57] <ShazbotMcNasty> I thought you had to
[07:57] <ShazbotMcNasty> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:57] <segphault> Anyone here tried a fully automated install with Ubuntu 9.04 / 9.10 ?
[07:57] <crucialhoax> ShazbotMcNasty: No longer works
[07:58] <ShazbotMcNasty> crucialhoax, in 10.04?
[07:58] <crucialhoax> ShazbotMcNasty: It is now sudo restart <service>
[07:58] <ShazbotMcNasty> ohhhhkaayy
[07:58] <segphault> FAI that is ? all the docs point to debian mostly. Not sure if it works well for Ubuntu as well.
[07:59] <crucialhoax> xiven, try sudo start gdm or /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:59] <tripelb> indus, what's a graphical freeze? But lately twice it has gone black, but it reboots. I'll look up graphical freeze and safe graphics mode. Untill tho "gone black" I thought it was firefox. (9.10upgrade,AMD32,memtest good,last time I saw flashing keyboard lights but they quit. It's a project of going on 3 weeks now. ::))
[07:59] <apctr190> how to set static IP in ubuntu 9.10
[07:59] <crucialhoax> tripelb: Flashing keyboard lights is a kernel panic...
[08:00] <crucialhoax> apctr190: Network Manager, upper right hand corner of the screen.
[08:00] <red2kic> apctr190: There are network-manager (on Notification Area).
[08:00] <indus> tripelb, due to some driver issue the gui doesnt load thats what it is
[08:00] <indus> tripelb, so safe graphics mode loads some basic driver
[08:01] <ShazbotMcNasty> apctr190, "sudo ifconfig <staticip> <subnetmask>"
[08:01] <ShazbotMcNasty> eg: ifconfig <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:01] <crucialhoax> ShazbotMcNasty: You need more than that, you need the broadcast, network, gateway.
[08:01] <rocket16> So, how to use Pidgin Smileys in IRC? I can use them everywhere, but not in this channel or IRC, :(
[08:01] <ShazbotMcNasty> crucialhoax, that's what the netmask is for brosef
[08:01] <riku> quick question, is there any way to put the monitor to sleep via terminal? that'd be handy when i get into bed and forget to turn off my screen, i'd like to just ssh in from my phone and turn 'em off :P
[08:01] <rocket16> :O
[08:01] <crucialhoax> ShazbotMcNasty: All that will do is give the machine an IP that can sit there, it needs a default route....
[08:02] <ShazbotMcNasty> subnet mask makes it possible for the computer to figure out a default gateway
[08:02] <red2kic> rocket16: IRC does not embed smiley or img. >;}~
[08:02] <ShazbotMcNasty> and the broadcast and network
[08:02] <crucialhoax> ShazbotMcNasty: The subnet mask has nothing to do with the router or the gateway...
[08:02] <rocket16> red2kic: Oh, thanks.
[08:02] <ShazbotMcNasty> lol k crucialhoax
[08:02] <ShazbotMcNasty> I'm a network technician
[08:02] <brounok> looking for desktop background slideshow software. web search throws up a few such as gnome-desktop-change, wallzapper...any recommendation?
[08:02] <riku> anyone? guess not, i'm probably just lazy ;)
[08:03] <brounok> for gnome, of course.
[08:03] <coz_> riku,  mm not sure let me check
[08:03] <red2kic> riku: Toss any objects at the monitor usually work.
[08:03] <ShazbotMcNasty> riku, "gnome-screensaver-command -l"
[08:03] <ShazbotMcNasty> wait
[08:03] <crucialhoax> All a subnet does is tell a machine what network segment the machine is on. It cannot find its default route from that without DHCP, it can find its broadcast and network though -- which is my mistake..
[08:03] <riku> thanks red2kic lol
[08:03] <ShazbotMcNasty> that locks the screen, is that what you're for? riku?
[08:03] <ShazbotMcNasty> okay crucialhoax
[08:03] <riku> yes! :)
[08:03] <riku> sort of, lol lets try it ;)
[08:04] <riku> oooh theres alot of commands i didn't know, thankms ShazbotMcNasty !  even if that waasn't exactly waht i was looking for ;o
[08:05] <ShazbotMcNasty> I don't know how to actually sleep the monitor :<
[08:05] <ShazbotMcNasty> but if the screen is locked it will eventually sleep lol
[08:05] <coz_> riku,    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=160375
[08:05] <red2kic> riku: "xset dpms force off"
[08:05] <riku> thanks guys!
[08:05] <ShazbotMcNasty> that's purty cool
[08:05] <riku> that might be it red2kic, someone in another channel brought that up too
[08:06] <crucialhoax> riku: gnome-screensaver-command -a -l
[08:06] <riku> THAT EXACTLY it red2kic thanks :)
[08:06] <red2kic> riku: :)
[08:06] <bronto> is ^string$ correct syntax for exact string match?
[08:07] <bronto> in regex
[08:07] <tripelb> till later
[08:07] <red2kic> riku: If you can't remember that command, you might want to create alias so you can ssh in and just use the alias.
[08:07] <riku> red2kic, already done
[08:07] <riku> xsleep :P
[08:07] <red2kic> riku: "goodnight" :)
[08:07] <tripelb> indus, till later I must sleep
[08:07] <riku> alright! night guys, thanks again!
[08:10] <wehe> I have a problem (probably due to statically assigned IP addresses). Really often that computer cannot reach the internet (looks like a problem with address resolution).
[08:10] <meco> The Disk Usage Analyzer tells me that "/" has 100% usage, and the graphic bar is all red. Is this a matter for concern and what does it mean?
[08:10] <Muzer> I am running on Jaunty and have a dialup modem that isn't always inserted. If it isn't inserted, init constantly trys to respawn the mgetty session, which has the net effect of constant 20KiB/s hard drive writes from syslogd. So, is there a way to make it so that if ttySHSF0 doesn't exist, init doesn't even try to start /etc/event.d/ttySHSF0 ?
[08:11] <crucialhoax> wehe: from a terminal type nslookup google.com
[08:11] <wehe> The big problem is: I cannot reach the update server. (KK)
[08:11] <oDoyle2> meco : it means a process is jamming up your cpu. open a terminal and type 'top'. Which process is going at 100?
[08:11] <red2kic> meco: Naturally, / is full. It should be something you ignore.
[08:12] <meco> That was two totally contradicting answers...
[08:12] <wehe> crucialhoax: dig google.com replies normally.
[08:12] <riku> hmm. that works when ran locally, but via ssh i'm missing something, how do i direct a command like "xset dpms force off" to a specific x11 session?
[08:12] <red2kic> meco: Were you talking about storage or process? ;o
[08:12] <crucialhoax> wehe: Does it state that you have a DNS server?
[08:13] <Muzer> sorry, was disconnected, did anyone answer my question?
[08:13] <crucialhoax> red2kic: Stupid question, but what did you mean by create an alias?
[08:13] <meco> red2kic: I assume the Disk Usage Analyzer deal with the former...
[08:13] <wehe> crucialhoax: yes, and it staes its own address
[08:14] <red2kic> crucialhoax: Open a terminal. alias lol='aptitude moo';lol
[08:14] <wehe> crucialhoax: (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[08:14] <brounok> is 'drapes' good for gnome desktop slideshow?
[08:14] <crucialhoax> wehe: So underneath nslookup google.com it should say server:<server IP>
[08:14] <red2kic> riku: DISPLAY=":0" xset dpms force off --> Might work.
[08:14] <Muzer> I know how I would go about creating a kludge to sort it out (something in /etc/init.d and /etc/rcx.d that checks if it exists and if not runs the necessary initctl call to stop it running
[08:14] <Muzer> )
[08:15] <coz_> brounok,   I have tried many of the options for gnome desktop slideshow and ALL have been disapointing
[08:15] <Muzer> but I was wondering if there is a neater solution
[08:15] <crucialhoax> riku: gnome-screensaver-command -a -l <-- try that?
[08:15] <red2kic> brounok: Give it a try. I think drapes are decent enough. If you dislike it, there always are scripts + cron.
[08:15] <brounok> coz_: in what way(s) are they disappointing?
[08:15] <riku> crucialhoax, yes i did
[08:15] <crucialhoax> riku: did not work?
[08:15] <coz_> brounok,  well they have never been smooth enough or with enough transition options for my tastes
[08:16] <riku> same response as before, "x11 initialization failed" so i'm guessing it needs to be specified as "what" x session
[08:16] <red2kic> crucialhoax: You understood alias?
[08:16] <brounok> coz_: ok, so its a matter of personal taste.
[08:16] <Muzer> riku: Where are you running this command from?
[08:16] <brounok> i will give drapes a try.
[08:16] <crucialhoax> red2kic: Yes. lol
[08:16] <coz_> brounok,  most likely yes
[08:16] <riku> Muzer, an android phone via SSH
[08:16] <riku> in bed
[08:17] <Muzer> riku: prefix the command with: DISPLAY=:0.0
[08:17] <Muzer> that tells it which X session to connect to
[08:17] <riku> Muzer, thanks, gonna try that now :)
[08:17] <Muzer> (the first one in this case)
[08:17] <red2kic> crucialhoax: You can use it for just about anything. I have bunch of them. Example: alias install='sudo aptitude install -VPR'   That way, I can just... install pidgin
[08:17] <crucialhoax> red2kic: what is the -VPR for?
[08:18] <riku> red2kic, yup, Muzer up, thanks!
[08:18] <red2kic> crucialhoax: aptitude --help ;)
[08:18] <Muzer> riku: np :)
[08:18] <riku> lets try sleeping again..
[08:18] <Muzer> riku: If you're planning on doing many X things via the ssh session, you can run export DISPLAY=:0.0
[08:18] <Muzer> lol, he's gone
[08:19] <red2kic> crucialhoax: Prompt. Verbose. No Recommendations.
[08:19] <crucialhoax> red2kic: I looked it up lol
[08:20] <shleda> hi, is there a way to change my status in empathy using some script to reflect 10.04 release dat?
[08:21] <Muzer> I am running on Jaunty and have a dialup modem that isn't always inserted. If it isn't inserted, init constantly trys to respawn the mgetty session, which has the net effect of constant 20KiB/s hard drive writes from syslogd. So, is there a way to make it so that if ttySHSF0 doesn't exist, init doesn't even try to start /etc/event.d/ttySHSF0 ?
[08:21] <crucialhoax> time for sleep
[08:21] <crucialhoax> night all.
[08:21] <ah149159101> Does anyone in here speak French?
[08:22] <shleda> je na parle pa francais :)
[08:22] <ah149159101> is that a sarcastic yes or a joking no
[08:22] <ah149159101> lol
[08:22] <red2kic> ah149159101: ubottu know french.
[08:22] <red2kic> !french | ah149159101
[08:22] <shleda> joking no, I could not continue my french classes
[08:23] <torello> Hi, I update my ubuntu lucid beta to the latest kernel this morning and now the laptop not came up. Is not in kernel panic but not finish the boot
[08:23] <philien> shleda : Vous parlez quelle langue ?
[08:23] <philien> !fr
[08:23] <shleda> anglais
[08:23] <shleda> hindi
[08:23] <shleda> punjabi
[08:24] <torello> the latest message is "usb 1-3: configuration °1 chosen from 1 choice"
[08:24] <shleda> un pea francais and thats all
[08:24] <ah149159101> ok so...nobody actually speaks french?
[08:24] <Muzer> torello: Sounds like it might be an error that's hidden by udev connection messages
[08:24] <red2kic> torello: #ubuntu+1
[08:24] <Muzer> torello: That's annoyingly common
[08:24] <Haffe> Is it a diffrent french spoken in quebec as compared to french spoken in france?
[08:24] <Muzer> torello: I would try removing all devices you can so you can see what errors there are
[08:24] <torello> I touch anything ....
[08:24] <Flannel> ah149159101: This channel is english only, if you want support in french, /join #ubuntu-fr
[08:24] <Muzer> (USB devices)
[08:24] <Muzer> as many as possible
[08:24] <shleda> ah149159101: you can put your question in english, I guess you can speak english
[08:24] <torello> how I can choose the previous kernel?
[08:25] <red2kic> torello: Hold SHIFT during the boot process. Select the previous kernel.
[08:25] <torello> Muzer, I not have any device plugged
[08:26] <backlol> ubunto en français
[08:26] <wehe> How does ubuntu (KK) know which servers to use for dns?
[08:26] <Flannel> !away > CMoH-office
[08:27] <ezequiel> hello everybody
[08:27] <CMoH-office> sry, Flannel, just configuring nickserv
[08:27] <torello> red2kic, Muzer: Ok, now the machine came up again ...any suggestion about how to use new kernel?
[08:27] <red2kic> wehe: It usually use <IP_ADDRESS> for dns...whatever your router offer.
[08:28] <wehe> red2kic: I meant: how do I configure to use a certain server...
[08:28] <Muzer> torello: Sorry, I don't really have any clue if you can't see any errors :(
[08:28] <Muzer> it's quite irritating
[08:28] <Muzer> there might be a way to get rid of udev messages but I don't know what it is
[08:29] <red2kic> torello: If the new kernel is causing issues, you could try and figure out why -- Use launchpad for that.  Report and they'll ask you to extract some information about your machine. (That's good thing, a constant improvement). Or just stick with the previous kernel.
[08:29] <red2kic> wehe: I think network-manager are capable of changing dns servers.
[08:30] <ezequiel> sorry bothering you but I got a question about using ubuntu 9.10 palimpsest disk utility!
[08:30] <torello> right red2kic ... you are right
[08:30] <oDoyle2> Whats the timeout for ghost nicks on this server?
[08:30] <red2kic> wehe: Use DHCP Address Only. You can put in the new DNS addresses right there.
[08:32] <wehe> redkic: the computer must have a fixed address an keep accepting connections when no one is logged in.
[08:32] <apctr190> How to set static ip in 9.10?
[08:33] <Gnea> apctr190: in network manager
[08:33] <paris> Hi folks. I know that I have Internet connection but for some reason when I try to use skype, it says that P2P connect failed. What do I have to do? so I can use skype!
[08:33] <red2kic> oDoyle2: Ask the nice folks at #freenode -- if you really want to find out.
[08:33] <Guest47004> a
[08:33] <oDoyle2> thanks red2kic
[08:34] <ezequiel> I have formatted my 160 GB external usb HDD using disk utility in FAT filesystem, it works in ubuntu but it doesn't work in computers running windows xp, anyone knows why this happening???
[08:34] <red2kic> ezequiel: Any particular reason why you're using FAT format?
[08:36] <paris> how to install mysql?
[08:36] <ezequiel> I am using ubuntu 9.10 on my PC, but I wanted it to be compatible with windows xp PC's
[08:36] <red2kic> ezequiel: FAT32? Ubuntu is capable of using NTFS btw.
[08:36] <camposvic> <----- Hello, in need of some help
[08:37] <Muzer> ezequiel: Define "compatible"
[08:37] <Muzer> there are quite a few ways something would be compatible...
[08:37] <oDoyle2> ezequiel: You may have formatted it using FAT16 instead of FAT32. FAT16 isn't readable by XP
[08:37] <ortsvorsteher> camposvic, just ask. all in one line and with full details of the problem
[08:38] <wehe> How do I set the dns to use (if no one is logged in) server in KK? Placing dns-nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces doen't do the trick.
[08:38] <shleda> does anyone around here know plugins for empathy?
[08:38] <camposvic> i have a ip1700 canon printer that i don't know how 2 install on ubuntu 9.10
[08:38] <red2kic> ezequiel: Run "sudo blkid" -- What does it say about your hard drive?  fat32?
[08:38] <camposvic> <--- Noob
[08:39] <ezequiel> some time ago I used palimpsest disk utility to format the usb HDD in FAT it worked in ubuntu and in windows xp PC's
[08:39] <ortsvorsteher> !printer | camposvic
[08:39] <camposvic> hello? anyone?
[08:39] <camposvic> yes
[08:40] <camposvic> orts?
[08:40] <apctr190> Gnea: i edit /etc/network/interfaces file
[08:40] <camposvic> can u help?
[08:40] <ortsvorsteher> camposvic, try to follow the links which ubottu gave you.
[08:40] <ezequiel> I had to format the drive again and now it doesn't show in windows PC's
[08:40] <ShazbotMcNasty> ezequiel, what did you format it as?
[08:40] <ShazbotMcNasty> !ask | campee
[08:40] <ShazbotMcNasty> no not you campee
[08:41] <ShazbotMcNasty> srry
[08:41] <ShazbotMcNasty> !ask | camposvic
[08:41] <ShazbotMcNasty> THERE WE GO
[08:41] <FloodBot4> ShazbotMcNasty: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:41] <apctr190> and change the dynamic ip into static ip but internet is not working
[08:41] <ShazbotMcNasty> >_>
[08:41] <wehe> apctr190: have you also sucessfully set the nameserver for that static network configuration?
[08:41] <apctr190> wehe: yes
[08:41] <camposvic> i didn't ask to ask a question.. damn bot
[08:42] <oDoyle2> ezequiel: did you run "sudo blkid" from a terminal like red2kic mentioned?
[08:42] <ezequiel> ok give me a second
[08:42] <camposvic> ip1700 printer i've tried numerous things 2 no avail
[08:42] <camposvic> canon printer
[08:42] <camposvic> no linux drivers
[08:44] <sandro_> ciao a tutte e tutti
[08:44] <camposvic> those links don't have the ip1700
[08:44] <oDoyle2> camposvic: googling "ip1700 linux" shows me a number of sites with peopel experiencing similar issues. Have a look through other peopels forum entries and see if they found a solution.
[08:45] <camposvic> i've tried those things they extensive and usually do not work
[08:45] <apctr190> wehe: but my internet is not working with my static ip??
[08:45] <camposvic> not usually but none of the 10 or so i've tried worked
[08:46] <oDoyle2> camposvic: printer support is very particular to the situation so remote assistance is difficult. You'll have to grab the linux drivers from canon, and figure out how to jimmy-rig it to work.
[08:46] <ezequiel> have ever happened to you that before updating ubuntu disk utility was giving you the information about your hard disk and after the updates it stopped giving you the info about your hard disk???
[08:46] <camposvic> canon doesn't have linux drivers
[08:46] <oDoyle2> camposvic: http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010231.asp
[08:47] <oDoyle2> boom!
[08:48] <camposvic> well i guess canon doesn't like americans cuz linux isn't shown when u go to the americas. LOL
[08:48] <wehe> apctr: I just found the solution to my problem (and yours, I suppose) in http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[08:48] <oDoyle2> camposvic: exactly
[08:48] <camposvic> lmao
[08:48] <russell__> greetings.  quick question: I've got a .war file (java) that needs to be served by our ubuntu server.  What are the best options for doing this?
[08:49] <camposvic> i think it's Bill Gate's fault.  General chatting is discouraged
[08:50] <wehe> apctr190: Did that help?
[08:50] <camposvic> well i think i got my answer so i'm outa here. thanx odoyle. :D
[08:51] <oDoyle2> camposvic: anytime
[08:51] <ezequiel> I did it, run sudo blkid this is the info: /dev/sda1: UUID="5fc4f61b-b257-49fb-8072-ce981ca153bf" TYPE="ext4"
[08:51] <ezequiel> /dev/sda5: UUID="ba3ccf8f-9f23-4247-aa0b-25d8c424af46" TYPE="swap"
[08:51] <ezequiel> /dev/sdb1: LABEL="160 GB HDD" UUID="7F93-369B" TYPE="vfat"
[08:51] <ezequiel> /dev/sdb5: UUID="2bb4c56e-1f27-4660-a40a-bad4219a7ae3" TYPE="swap"
[08:51] <ShazbotMcNasty> apctr190, #freenode is not for ubuntu support
[08:51] <FloodBot4> ezequiel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:51] <theadmin> ezequiel: use a pastebin
[08:51] <oDoyle2> good job ezequiel
[08:52] <ShazbotMcNasty> apctr190, do 'sudo gedit /etc/network/interface' and change these things: http://pastebin.org/147919
[08:52] <eto> hello
[08:52] <ShazbotMcNasty> eto, hello
[08:52] <theadmin> Those floodbots are quite useless :/ if they would mute those who says more then 3 messages per, say, 2 seconds... then it'd be fine...
[08:52] <eto> useful advice only
[08:52] <oDoyle2> ezequiel: ew vfat is old. Pre win95. Thats your problem.
[08:52] <amos81> eto: hello
[08:52] <theadmin> oDoyle2: no, not pre... it was there until winNT
[08:52] <buniek> #ubuntu.pl
[08:52] <eto> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/remmina-remote-desktop-client.html will this work on ubuntu 8.10 and 8.04 ?
[08:53] <eto> i have lager 8.04 - 8.10 installation base
[08:53] <oDoyle2> theadmin: true, it was around for quite a while
[08:53] <theadmin> eto: No, as you can see it only works on Jaunty/Karmic
[08:54] <ezequiel> which filesystem you think is the best to format a usb 2.0 external Hard drive??
[08:54] <oDoyle2> ezequiel: ntfs
[08:54] <theadmin> ezequiel: NTFS or ext2 (if you don't need it on Windows)
[08:55] <Gnea> eto: my guess would be no, as well.
[08:55] <ezequiel> That's the problem I need it to work on windows
[08:55] <eto> theadmin : how can you tell by the lines in the deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/llyzs/ppa/ubuntu
[08:55] <oDoyle2> theadmin: he wants it to be pliant with win
[08:55] <Muzer> NTFS or FAT
[08:55] <eto> okay that project had name before grdc
[08:55] <oDoyle2> ezequiel: ntfs works in both. IF you do FAT again, be sure to specify FAT32
[08:55] <eto> i can't find it in add remove software
[08:55] <Gnea> eto: the people who wrote the software explicitly tell you what it's supported on
[08:55] <theadmin> ezequiel: Do: sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs. Then you can format to NTFS.
[08:55] <Muzer> I personally prefer FAT - not quite sure why, possibly because I don't have to mess about with FUSE in distros without a shiny interface
[08:55] <apctr190> ShazbotMcNasty: I gave the same argument but my internet is not working with that ip,It can send the information to the gateway but gateway is not forwarding the information.
[08:56] <eto> Gnea : okay they don't seem to have fnode channel
[08:56] <ShazbotMcNasty> apctr190, you need to make sure everything is right
[08:56] <theadmin> !info ntfsprogs
[08:56] <theadmin> yeah, right.
[08:56] <ShazbotMcNasty> don't use that IP configuratioin
[08:56] <ShazbotMcNasty> apctr190
[08:56] <Gnea> eto: you could try adding the ppa and installing and see what happens - it might work, it might not. that's really the fastest and most reliable way to find out for sure.
[08:56] <ShazbotMcNasty> that was just example
[08:57] <ShazbotMcNasty> apctr190, why do you need static?
[08:57] <ShazbotMcNasty> actually nvm I don't care
[08:57] <eto> okay Gnea i am not affraid of command line I just don't have exp with ubuntu and linuxes in general
[08:57] <theadmin> ShazbotMcNasty: What do you mean, why? He might have a static IP.
[08:57] <ShazbotMcNasty> eto, are you using wireless or wired?
[08:57] <eto> What the ppa is some kindd of repository
[08:57] <amos81> !ppa |eto
[08:58] <ShazbotMcNasty> theadmin, this is true
[08:58] <theadmin> eto: ppa is a Personal Package Archive, a deb-style repository provided by launchpad.net
[08:58] <eto> ShazbotMcNasty : why would you like to know that?
[08:58] <eto> i am on wired entwork
[08:58] <Gnea> eto: just follow the directions for 9.04 by adding the line for jaunty and then updating the key
[08:58] <eto> The_Ball : amos81
[08:59] <ShazbotMcNasty> eto, sorry wrong person
[08:59] <ShazbotMcNasty> lol
[08:59] <ShazbotMcNasty> apctr190, are you on a wired or wireless network?
[08:59] <eto> thx Gnea i will read the wiki and follow the 9.04 path will report later
[08:59] <ra100> hi
[09:00] <ra100> what´s wrong is with launchpad
[09:00] <theadmin> ra100: Nothing.
[09:00] <Gnea> something's wrong with launchpad?
[09:00] <apctr190> ShazbotMcNasty: to set up an apt-mirror in our college.and i'm working on a wired network
[09:00] <ra100> i want to file a bug, but i still get:
[09:00] <ra100> Timeout error
[09:00] <ra100> Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad.
[09:00] <ra100> We\rquote ve recorded what happened, and we\rquote ll fix it as soon as possible. Apologies for the inconvenience.
[09:00] <ra100> Trying again in a couple of minutes might work.
[09:00] <ra100> (Error ID: OOPS-1563A828)
[09:00] <FloodBot4> ra100: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:00] <amos81> ra100: pastebin.org
[09:00] <theadmin> ra100: Ah, this happens. Wait a bit. Maybe around 30 minutes
[09:01] <ShazbotMcNasty> apctr190, then do 'ifconfig eth0' and pastebin the info
[09:01] <ShazbotMcNasty> and link me
[09:01] <Gnea> ra100: it's working fine here
[09:01] <ra100> http://paste.ubuntu.com/412987/
[09:01] <ezequiel> Have to go, Thanks to every body who tried to help me! :D
[09:01] <oDoyle2> gl ezequiel
[09:01] <ra100> but it´s been happennig for 3 days to me :-(
[09:02] <theadmin> ra100: "Timeout error" sounds like a connection problem
[09:02] <nishanth> my computer freezes randomly. but it works fine when i set acpi to off. but i happen to notice that my fan is working continuously if i set acpi to off....anyone know how to fix this?
[09:02] <bobthemilkman> I've got some trouble compiling this program, but essentially it comes down to the following error: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lreadline" when I try to run the command g++ (blahblahblah) -L/lib -lreadline. I'm staring right at the file libreadline.6.0 in /lib.  I have the most recent versions of gcc-4.4, readline-common.
[09:02] <oDoyle2> ra100: I had this issue, but it resolved when I tried a different browser. You may try clearing your browser cache also.
[09:03] <theadmin> ra100: Could you copy the link trough which you try to report the bug? Let me try
[09:03] <apctr190> ShazbotMcNasty: its also not working
[09:03] <ShazbotMcNasty> bobthemilkman, do you have to versions of libreadline?>
[09:03] <ShazbotMcNasty> apctr190, it should
[09:03] <ra100> theadmin: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect
[09:03] <bobthemilkman> ShazbotMcNasty: I do.
[09:04] <nishanth> my computer freezes randomly. but it works fine when i set acpi to off. but i happen to notice that my fan is working continuously if i set acpi to off....anyone know how to fix this?
[09:04] <ShazbotMcNasty> it's just "ifconfig eth0" apctr190
[09:04] <TheSov> Hello, just made the plunge and installed ubuntu 10.04 beta2 on my relatively new machine and was wondering if anyone could help me get my soundblaster x-fi working. i keep messing with the audio settings and pulse keeps crashing.
[09:04] <apctr190> ShazbotMcNasty: it gives command not found
[09:04] <theadmin> ra100: It works
[09:04] <ShazbotMcNasty> bobthemilkman, it may be looking in the wrong library
[09:04] <bobthemilkman> libreadline.so.5 -> libreadline.so.5.2 and libreadline.so.6 -> libreadline.so.6.0 ( with the targets also existing)
[09:04] <theadmin> !10.04 | TheSov
[09:04] <ShazbotMcNasty> apctr190, you're doing it wrong then
[09:04] <ShazbotMcNasty> just do "ifconfig' and pastebin it then
[09:04] <ra100> oDoyle2: i tried it at home at weekend and now i´ m trying at work
[09:04] <Gnea> apctr190: don't use the quotes, just:  ifconfig eth0
[09:05] <Gnea> apctr190: you may need to type it like:  /sbin/ifconfig eth0
[09:05] <apctr190> Gnea: I'm not using the quotes.
[09:05] <theadmin> ra100: I can report the bug for you, just give me the data (pm it)
[09:05] <TheSov> ahh, i should just go back to 9.10 then?
[09:05] <bobthemilkman> ShazbotMcNasty: How can I tell ld to try the other version?
[09:05] <theadmin> TheSov: Point is, Lucid is NOT SUPPORTED IN THIS CHANNEL. You need to /join #ubuntu+1 and ask there
[09:05] <Gnea> TheSov: no, you have to /join #ubuntu+1 to get help with it
[09:06] <amos81> TheSov: or /join #ubuntu+1
[09:06] <russell__> can someone answer a question about choosing a java server (like tomcat, but simpler is better)
[09:06] <TheSov> thanks!
[09:06] <russell__> ?
[09:06] <ra100> haaaaa. great. it works :-) thanks
[09:06] <ShazbotMcNasty> bobthemilkman, if nothing else uses those libraries I would just keep the newest installed
[09:06] <ShazbotMcNasty> and remove the older one
[09:06] <eto> apt says the packages required to install remnia are missing and only solution to isntall it suggest is not to install
[09:06] <dabomb69> How can I change the gdm theme in Karmic?
[09:07] <Gnea> eto: well, that confirms it then.
[09:07] <ShazbotMcNasty> but if older ones use the old libraries then you have to change the install location
[09:07] <ShazbotMcNasty> or whatever it's called
[09:07] <bobthemilkman> I suppose I can just move the older version somewhere else
[09:07] <ShazbotMcNasty> instead of /usr/bin
[09:07] <razor_24> dabomb69: you cant
[09:07] <ShazbotMcNasty> or /usr/local
[09:07] <bobthemilkman> and then if there's a problem in the future, I can move it back
[09:07] <eto> Gnea : what do you mean by that?
[09:07] <dabomb69> razor_24, oh. :|
[09:07] <theadmin> dabomb69: gdmsetup in Karmic does not provide theming. You can, however, install gdm2setup from their PPA https://launchpad.net/gdm2setup
[09:07] <bobthemilkman> However, they also exist in /lib64
[09:07] <eto> w8 i paste the to pastebin
[09:07] <o2oo> Hi, guys
[09:07] <dabomb69> theadmin, oh, ty. :D
[09:07] <razor_24> since version 9.4 you cant change that
[09:07] <ShazbotMcNasty> bobthemilkman, I don't know if it's that simple ;/
[09:08] <bobthemilkman> It occurs to me that lib64 is lib.
[09:08] <ShazbotMcNasty> I don't know a lot of stuff lol
[09:08] <o2oo> I wonder how could I search files contains specific words in an folder?
[09:08] <o2oo> I wonder how could I search files contains specific words in an folder? who could help?
[09:08] <Gnea> eto: it means that the ppa won't work with 8.10 or 8.04
[09:08] <eto> http://pastebin.org/147927
[09:09] <eto> so that means i am basically fscked?
[09:09] <Gnea> eto: you could download the source and compile it and hope that it works
[09:09] <Gnea> eto: but you say you are very new, so maybe that's too much for you
[09:10] <theadmin> o2oo: find folder -maxdepth0 -iname '*words' 2>/dev/null
[09:10] <theadmin> err
[09:10] <bobthemilkman> Hmmm
[09:10] <eto> Gnea : i did some compiling with ports on free bsd and openbsd, i use codeblocks on windows and nmake for my projects
[09:10] <bobthemilkman> sudo apt-get remove readline-common is a bad idea.
[09:10] <theadmin> o2oo: find folder -maxdepth 0 -iname '*words' 2>/dev/null
[09:11] <o2oo> Hi theadmin, what does "2>" means ?
[09:11] <eto> if compiling means just checkout svn and issue make
[09:11] <eto> i guess i could handle that
[09:11] <Muzer> o2oo: Send error output to the file...
[09:11] <Gnea> eto: alright then, http://sourceforge.net/projects/remmina/
[09:11] <Gnea> !compile | eto
[09:11] <Muzer> in this case, the file is /dev/null, which means delete error output
[09:11] <Gnea> eto: that page can help you get your build environment setup
[09:11] <theadmin> o2oo: Redirects those stupid errors (such as "Permission denied") to the bottomless pit of /dev/null
[09:12] <nishanth> my computer freezes randomly. but it works fine when i set acpi to off. but i happen to notice that my fan is working continuously if i set acpi to off....anyone know how to fix this?
[09:12] <o2oo> theadmin,  oh, I try ...
[09:12] <eto> thx going to read that
[09:12] <Gnea> eto: and sorry, most users tend to not know the difference between a c file and a header file
[09:12] <theadmin> So only Linus Torvalds can read them from his /dev/everything XD
[09:13] <Gnea> lol
[09:13] <eto> no problem i it spits out lines of errors and warning i will give up too
[09:13] <eto> *if
[09:13] <Muzer> nishanth: Try updating your BIOS then turning ACPI back on
[09:13] <Gnea> most likely, if it does, you probably just need to install the -dev package(s) for the referenced libraries
[09:14] <nishanth> Muzer : how do i do that?
[09:14] <eto> Gnea : yep that might be true
[09:14] <Muzer> nishanth: Find your motherboard's manufacturer and model, look on their website
[09:14] <eto> sorry to bother but is there some nice wiki page about that isntalling dev packages?
[09:14] <Sandking> hello
[09:14] <theadmin> eto: At least make sure you have build-essential
[09:15] <Gnea> eto: not really. I usually wait for the error to spring up, then I search for the library in another terminal and then install the -dev portion of it
[09:15] <Sandking> i need some app like TeamViewer for Ubuntu - to remotely connect and control/view other computer. it needs to run without setting ports or any geeky stuff. is there some app like this?
[09:15] <eto> Sandking vnc
[09:16] <kt> Yup
[09:16] <theadmin> Sandking: Yuuguu for remote support (it needs permission of other comps owner), jrdesktop for remote control
[09:16] <Gnea> Sandking: freenx
[09:16] <Sandking> ok, thx guys. i'll try those
[09:16] <Chazz> Is there any way to switch to the pre-Karmic gdm? (And what would break if you did?)
[09:16] <theadmin> Chazz: If you just want theming, look into gdm2setup
[09:16] <hateball> Sandking: By default, enabling "remote desktop" in ubuntu will enable VNC and try to open ports with uPNP. It'll give the client a link for the remote assistant to access as well
[09:16] <Sandking> i just need to have an app that can be started and set up by no geeky person
[09:16] <Chazz> theadmin, looked at it already.
[09:17] <theadmin> Sandking: Yuuguu will do :D
[09:17] <Chazz> And, imo, the old gdm was nicer... :S
[09:17] <theadmin> Yeah, chazz, as well as the old GRUB :/
[09:17] <Gnea> Chazz: there's a reason I haven't replaced my 9.04 with 9.10 lol
[09:17] <Sandking> i also have DHCP, so i don't know if it has any meaning
[09:17] <Chazz> lol
[09:17] <Sandking> good side of TeamViewer is that it just works
[09:18] <kt> So does the VNC
[09:18] <theadmin> Sandking: Wait a year or 2, teamviewer 6 will work on Linux as far as i'm aware
[09:18] <Chazz> Gnea, I would have stayed w/ 9.04, but was too lazy to keep hunting for the Jaunty disk after I found my Karmic disk. :P
[09:18] <Sandking> theadmin: ;) yeah, but i need it tomorrow :D
[09:19] <hateball> Sandking: enabling remote desktop is like a two click job...
[09:19] <NET||abuse> hmm, trying to get my laptop to upgrade, from 9.10 to 10.04 beta,, the upgrade installatino seemed to go through and then it says reboot, i reboot, grub pops up and then it just sits there saying "Satring up" and my hdd light is on solid.
[09:19] <Gnea> Chazz: well I tried it out and didn't like the new gdm, so I went back
[09:19] <Sandking> and i prefer to target apps for noobs not the ubergeeks
[09:19] <Chazz> ah
[09:19] <theadmin> hateball: It's IP specific
[09:19] <chetnick> my sound driver broke... How do i reinstall sound drivers ?
[09:19] <Arvan> hi,all
[09:19] <Arvan> i have a question,please help me. my server acts a router role, now i need to control traffic,which program will be great??
[09:19] <Chazz> i'm wishing there was a nice way to downgrade ubuntu right now. =(
[09:19] <theadmin> Sandking: Yuuguu is your solution for all the remote support.
[09:19] <Gnea> NET||abuse: #ubuntu+1 can help you
[09:19] <oDoyle2> Sandking: whats your budget?
[09:20] <Sandking> theadmin: i'm looking at it right now. looks very nice
[09:20] <hateball> theadmin: I was not aware that was an issue. The remote assistance app will provide a link with the current IP so...
[09:20] <Gnea> Chazz: there is! :D pop the livecd in, reboot, install
[09:20] <Sandking> oDoyle2: 0$ :]
[09:20] <Gnea> so easy, a caveman could do it
[09:20] <Gnea> (tm)
[09:20] <Chazz> Gnea, problem is, say bye bye to all data. :p
[09:20] <oDoyle2> Sandking: us techs have a hard hard life don't we
[09:20] <chetnick> Gnea: or not upgrade at all.
[09:20] <Gnea> Chazz: that's why I keep /home as a separate partition
[09:21] <Chazz> heh, sounds smart. (AKA, something I'm not! :p)
[09:21] <red2kic> Gnea: I keep /home on a different hard drive. :)
[09:21] <chetnick> Gnea: he can copy home, but i dont think that is what he meant by data.
[09:21] <Arvan> anyone help?
[09:21] <Gnea> oh, I learned the hard way years ago
[09:21] <o2oo> theadmin,  I want to search files' content, not the file name
[09:21] <Muzer> o2oo: Use grep then:
[09:21] <Gnea> chetnick: most people tend to keep important data in their ~
[09:21] <Muzer> grep -Ri 'thing to search for' folder-to-look-in
[09:22] <Gnea> red2kic: nice
[09:22] <theadmin> o2oo: oooh. cat folder/* | grep 'stuff'
[09:22] <Muzer> if you want to search through the whole filesystem though, that will take a long time
[09:22] <Sandking> theadmin: can i take control over OS with Yuuguu?
[09:22] <chetnick> Gnea: maybe i missed something, he can't mount his drive anymore?
[09:22] <o2oo> theadmin,  for example, I want to find out those files whose content contains some words
[09:22] <Muzer> theadmin: That only works for the top level of files
[09:22] <Muzer> o2oo: Use what I said
[09:22] <o2oo> theadmin, thanks
[09:23] <Gnea> chetnick: no, he has 9.10 but would like the gdm from 9.04, so he's wondering if there's an easy way to 'downgrade', so I replied half-sarcastically/half-serious with the livecd option
[09:23] <theadmin> Sandking: Other person shows desktop to you, you click "Request control" other one accepts, et viola!
[09:23] <chetnick> o2oo: $ find . -name "*.c" -print | xargs grep "main("
[09:24] <chetnick> o2oo: where *c is the file you are looking for, and "main(" is the string in the file.
[09:24] <Gnea> also:  find . -name "*.c" -exec grep "main(" {} \;
[09:24] <Sandking> theadmin: great. sounds perfect for remote support. i've set up Ubuntu on friend's laptop as she needed quick setup and we couldn't find windows install and she's quite frightened ;] so this yuuguu should help me help her
[09:24] <theadmin> Sandking: "help me help her" sounds like "Thank you for helping us help you help us all" XD
[09:25] <o2oo> theadmin,  I need to deep into sub folders too
[09:25] <Gnea> lol
[09:25] <chetnick> Gnea: you know something about sound drivers? it looks like my snd-cmipci (C-Media) driver broke. How do i go about this?
[09:25] <chetnick> o2oo: change . with /
[09:25] <Gnea> chetnick: what do you mean by 'broke', exactly?
[09:26] <chetnick> Gnea: Sound gone "bye bye" after hibernation. Reboot does not help ,etc....
[09:26] <o2oo> chetnick,  could you give me the whole command?
[09:26] <Gnea> chetnick: hrm, what about a cold boot?
[09:26] <Sandking> theadmin: yeah something like that ;] to be honest - without places like these i'd be looking for best options for days :]
[09:26] <Kep> hello here
[09:26] <Unregistered> hello?
[09:26] <chetnick> o2oo: find / -name "*.c" -print | xargs grep "main("
[09:26] <Gnea> !hello
[09:26] <Unregistered> hello
[09:26] <theadmin> Sandking: This Yuuguu thing is not very well known
[09:26] <littlepenguin> hi  could someone help me with chroot environment?
[09:26] <Kep> Im looking for some help to install driver
[09:26] <chetnick> Gnea: cold boot?
[09:27] <chetnick> safe mode?
[09:27] <theadmin> littlepenguin: I have some experience with that
[09:27] <Gnea> chetnick: turn the power off, turn it back on.
[09:27] <Unregistered> Im looking for someone To play ACCF?
[09:27] <theadmin> !ot | Unregistered
[09:27] <chetnick> Gnea: done that. lol
[09:27] <Gnea> Unregistered: please try #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:27] <littlepenguin> theadmin i made a chroot environemtn in a folder and installed via debootstrap
[09:27] <Sandking> theadmin: first thing i thought about was screen sharing with skype but i don't know if this option is yet in ubuntu build
[09:27] <Gnea> chetnick: it's a laptop?
[09:27] <theadmin> littlepenguin: Okay, then what?
[09:27] <Doyle> what does ot stand for?
[09:27] <theadmin> Sandking: No, unfortunately :(
[09:27] <littlepenguin> theadmin karmic in it...i then installed java and ran a software
[09:28] <o2oo> chetnick, I don't need to search the root,
[09:28] <theadmin> Doyle: OffTopic
[09:28] <Doyle> gotcha. thanks
[09:28] <theadmin> littlepenguin: What is the problem anyway? :/
[09:28] <Kep> does anyone know how to install a driver (pci wifi) from a cd ?
[09:28] <chetnick> o2oo: well you search what ever you need to search.
[09:28] <littlepenguin> theadmin i started chroot as a special user..but in chroot environment where is for example the user specific folders?
[09:29] <theadmin> littlepenguin: Hm, it might be possible to use "adduser" in a chroot to create a user... :/
[09:29] <Unregistered> Anyone? Wanna play ACCF with me? Animal Crossing?
[09:29] <Gnea> chetnick: I have to get to bed, I'm sure someone else can help you troubleshoot it
[09:29] <littlepenguin> ahhhhhhhhh ok i need to add the user in chroot not in main system
[09:29] <chetnick> Gnea: i'm sure it will not, but Good Night.
[09:29] <littlepenguin> ok thx theadmin
[09:29] <RussellAlan> I have a machine running 10.xx
[09:29] <Gnea> Unregistered: /join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask there. THIS IS NOT THE PLACE TO ASK THAT QUESTION. thanks.
[09:29] <Doyle> Kep: if you're new to linux, first thing to check is that the CD actually has linux drivers on it. If not, hitup the manufacturers website.
[09:29] <RussellAlan> and it gave me the option to download the wireless device drivers
[09:29] <theadmin> Gnea: Woah that dude sure made you angry :D
[09:30] <RussellAlan> where cani find this screen again?
[09:30] <RussellAlan> it isnt in the update menu
[09:30] <Gnea> I'm not angry, just tired :)
[09:30] <theadmin> RussellAlan: System -> Admininstration -> Hardware drivers
[09:30] <Gnea> anyhow, good night
[09:30] <Kep> doyle => i check it, i have the linux driver for ubuntu
[09:30] <theadmin> Gnea: Well, more like good morning for me :)
[09:30] <Kep> on the cd
[09:30] <o2oo> chetnick,  your command is not ok
[09:30] <chetnick> Gnea: Good Night.
[09:30] <coz_> theadmin,  definitly good morning here  5:30 am
[09:31] <theadmin> coz_: 12:30 here
[09:31] <today> how install Hacao Linux inside VirtualBox guide?
[09:31] <coz_> theadmin,  ok you win :)
[09:31] <rocket16> Hello all,
[09:31] <Kep> the thing is i have only a wireless conection so i need to install my pci wifi and then it should be ok
[09:31] <theadmin> coz_: Well, 12:30, uh, PM. Like after that goes 13:00 not 1AM. So you win :D
[09:31] <coz_> :)
[09:31] <theadmin> today: Like you would install normaly. Create a box, run it, mount the image...
[09:32] <psycho_oreos> Kep: as long as the the wifi chipset onboard that pci wifi is supported under linux, then it should be a breeze
[09:32] <chetnick> o2oo: try this find /directory -exec grep "search string" '{}' /dev/null \; -print
[09:32] <Kep> oki but how to install the driver of the pci ?
[09:32] <RussellAlan> theadmin: SystemError: InstallArchive()failed
[09:32] <Doyle> Kep: In irc, you can start typing a nick, and press [tab] to auto complete. try it, do[tab].  You can do it from System, Administration, HArdware Drivers
[09:32] <theadmin> ...bash is acting crazy. I'm pressing the Up Arrow, it does not PRINT the last command into the input place, but instead it EXECUTES it, what the heck!??! I don't like that
[09:33] <Kep> i did the lspci command and i didnt see anything (no wireless bla bla)
[09:33] <theadmin> RussellAlan: Can't help with this
[09:33] <chetnick> o2oo: or you could just try this grep -r "search string" /directory
[09:33] <Kep> Doyle thank you
[09:33] <Doyle> Kep: anytime
[09:34] <ranga> how can i run yahoo messanger on  ubuntu
[09:34] <Kep> Doyle do you know how to install driver from a cd ? (pci wifi driver)
[09:34] <ranga> ya
[09:34] <theadmin> ranga: You can not. However, there are alternatives such as gyachi
[09:34] <eto> Gnea, theadmin well i installed all the packages mentioned in wiki build-essentials and all in remnia readme
[09:34] <o2oo> chetnick, too complex
[09:35] <o2oo> chetnick,  does ubuntu have any software could do these kind of search?
[09:35] <eto> when i go to trunk dir there is configure.ac which had not x attribute setup yet readme said i should do ./configure ass rott
[09:35] <o2oo> chetnick,  does ubuntu have any GUI software could do these kind of search?
[09:35] <eto> *root
[09:35] <theadmin> I _HATE_ those instant messaging companies for not creating Linux clients. So I mainly use Jabber/XMPP because they don't have a "official" client... well, Skype did a good job.
[09:35] <eto> so i changed mode +x for that file but now i am getting syntax error
[09:35] <today> theadmin: i know that steps, but i have a problem, this problem here: http://imgur.com/7LBPj.png, cant you help me now ?
[09:36] <theadmin> today: wud?! o_O
[09:36] <theadmin> today: Ah
[09:36] <today> ^^ theadmin
[09:36] <eto> am i doing something wrong?
[09:36] <psycho_oreos> Kep: that depends on what sort of chipset you have, it can either come with the kernel or you will have to download a proprietary driver or use ndiswrapper with the driver disc or via online
[09:36] <chetnick> o2oo: i don't know, why is it to complex? It is quite simple..
[09:36] <theadmin> today: Uh. Increase the virtual machine memory. Also, that theme you have looks nice :)
[09:37] <Doyle> Kep: try under Administration, Windows Wireless Driver
[09:37] <chetnick> o2oo: grep -r "search string" /directory Nothing complex in this...
[09:37] <today> not sure theadmin,i set 300MB for Base memory
[09:37] <Kep> psycho_oreos sounds complicate
[09:37] <theadmin> today: Uhhh... Well, try increasing it more. I'm unsure how much Hacao needs
[09:38] <eto> configure.ac i guess it's part of autoconf should be executed by itself or by some external tool?
[09:38] <Kep> psycho_oreos but the chipset is RTL8187 et the name of the pci device is Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[09:38] <psycho_oreos> Kep: that RTL8187 is wireless and the driver is already part of the kernel :)
[09:38] <today> whoop? that's Puppy platform theadmin
[09:39] <Doyle> lspci -v |less
[09:39] <theadmin> today: Well, the only thing which could cause such an error is not enough RAM :/ and i'
[09:39] <theadmin> and i'm unsure what it has to do with puppies, today
[09:39] <psycho_oreos> Kep: in fact that name is also the name of the wireless driver that's integrated part of the kernel, which is a family of 3 rtl8187 based chipsets
[09:39] <Kep> psycho_oreos we are agree that the pci is integrated to my mother card ?
[09:40] <Kep> psycho_oreos and when i try the lspci command on the console i have no answer
[09:40] <psycho_oreos> Kep: I wouldn't say integrated for the wireless, but I presume its probably connected?
[09:40] <today> Hacao is VietNam's Linux, it development with Puppy platform theadmin
[09:40] <psycho_oreos> Kep, weird, it should work without one being super user, try sudo lspci
[09:40] <theadmin> today: I say ya, that can only be caused by not enough ram for all i know
[09:40] <today> :-D so much RAM theadmin , i set 512Mb RAm, it;s running
[09:41] <Kep> psycho_oreos i mean, its not an independant device like a video card, its part of the mother card (asus P5K E
[09:41] <today> that allright  theadmin
[09:41] <theadmin> today: Well, GLaD I could help.
[09:41] <today> thanks so much, i want to ask you, may be puppy linux need more Ram?
[09:41] <theadmin> !yay | today
[09:41] <Doyle> Kep: pci doesn't mean the device will be an addon, integrated devices also run on the pci bus
[09:41] <psycho_oreos> Kep: ahh I so its basically soldered on
[09:42] <theadmin> today: I've no idea, never used it
[09:42] <eto> seems something broken once again in ubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-412310.html
[09:42] <today> ^^, i want to ask you andy question theadmin, ok?
[09:42] <psycho_oreos> and yes I agree with what Doyle says there, if its not USB based, chances are its PCI based, this also includes PCI-E, PCI-X, etc
[09:42] <theadmin> today: uh what? %)
[09:43] <loquitus> Anybody encountered some segmentation faults with firefox? I restarted my machine just now, and I am guessing some system updates were applied. Anyways, when it restarted, firefox would no longer start. I get a segmentation fault now.
[09:43] <Doyle> cryptic
[09:43] <Kep> doyle and psycho_oreos you're right
[09:43] <theadmin> loquitus: Happened sometimes but it's usually quite random
[09:43] <Kep> anyway, when i check with lspci no wireless info appears
[09:43] <today> about Debian , my friend social talk with me that: Debian run with Stable than Ubuntu ( mor crash) do you think? theadmin
[09:43] <hateball> !ot
[09:43] <loquitus> theadmin: solution?
[09:44] <psycho_oreos> Kep: and you tried sudo lspci as well?
[09:44] <Kep> on it
[09:44] <theadmin> today: Ubuntu is VERY stable, Debian is just developed for longer time... Well, i can say they are on quite the same level
[09:44] <theadmin> loquitus: I dunno, ask in #mozilla ... or was it #firefox ?
[09:45] <today> ^^, well done theadmin
[09:45] <Kep> psycho_oreos no more info
[09:45] <today> where are you from theadmin ?
[09:45] <Doyle> Kep: mine shows up as 04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[09:45] <today> this a question outside ^^
[09:45] <psycho_oreos> Kep: that's very unusual, it could either be a compromised computer, or something wrong with the lspci binary itself
[09:45] <theadmin> today: PM me since this is quite offtopic
[09:45] <psycho_oreos> Kep: I'd check the last few lines of dmesg as well
[09:46] <eto> so?
[09:46] <eto> any ideas
[09:46] <Doyle> Kep: if you don't have it, check to make sure the wireless isn't switched off. Some mobos have a hard switch on the back for htis.
[09:46] <Doyle> Kep: similar to laptops
[09:46] <eto> what shell sould one use to actually get configure.ac to execute?
[09:46] <ikonia> eto: the shell is not relevant
[09:46] <darwin_> Can i get help please?
[09:47] <Kep> Doyle no worry im on internet right now so...
[09:47] <theadmin> darwin_: Yes... %)
[09:47] <theadmin> What is .ac anyway? o_O
[09:47] <darwin_> HI theadmin, can you please tell me a good desktop remote program? I want to connect to my VPS, i've already tried TightVNC trough WIne, but it didn't really work.
[09:47] <psycho_oreos> Doyle: I reckon its not right if lspci lists nothing at all, it should list stuff like video card, sound card, network card, south bridge, etc
[09:48] <theadmin> darwin_: jrdesktop should work...
[09:48] <darwin_> one minute
[09:48] <Kep> psycho_oreos the exact command is : lspci | grep -i net
[09:48] <ikonia> theadmin: it's just an input file for autoconf
[09:48] <Doyle> psycho_oreos: ah, I thought it was just not listing the wireless. If its blank, there are larger issues at work
[09:48] <theadmin> ikonia: oh.
[09:48] <darwin_> theadmin, could you link me the download file please?
[09:48] <geekphreak> vening folks
[09:48] <Cara> evening
[09:48] <theadmin> darwin_: http://jrdesktop.net
[09:48] <Kep> psycho_oreos and im sure i dont have a driver for my wireless device
[09:49] <geekphreak> howdy cara :)
[09:49] <darwin_> thanks theadmin, i'll get back to you if i get any problems. :)
[09:49] <eto> ikonia : more light into it
[09:49] <geekphreak> theadmin:  :)
[09:49] <Doyle> kep for  adetailed look, use "lspci -v |less" If there are other devices listed, lspci is working at least.
[09:49] <theadmin> geekphreak: hai
[09:49] <ikonia> eto: more light into what ?
[09:49] <psycho_oreos> Kep: well you won't need to provided that what you said before about rtl8187 is correct
[09:49] <eto> what to do ikonia? when i run autoconf as sudo at least it doesn't spit errors
[09:49] <Sandking> btw - does anyone knows Luxor game? what's the alternative for ubuntu :D ?
[09:49] <ikonia> eto: what are you trying to build
[09:49] <eto> so i guess i am supposed to do that
[09:49] <psycho_oreos> Doyle: yeah that's what I figured, its ok if it returns something but if nothing, that's very unusual
[09:50] <eto> ikonia remmnia
[09:50] <eto> i downloaded all dev packages
[09:50] <eto> read readme
[09:50] <eto> command ./configure do nothing
[09:50] <Kep> psycho_oreos so how to set up my wifi connection ?<
[09:50] <ikonia> eto: what do you mean do nothing, have you read the install notes ?
[09:50] <Doyle> Sandking: for software ports or alternates, best source is google. "luxxor for linux" for example.
[09:51] <eto> yes nothing means command not found
[09:51] <ikonia> eto: ok - so why did you try to run it if the command is not int he dirdctory
[09:51] <tertitten> can anyone please guide me to the proper way to reinstall pulseaudio and all of it componants ? after installing ardour and jack components i have sound issues with pulse
[09:51] <psycho_oreos> Kep: are you able to scan for wireless networks?
[09:52] <eto> well ikonia because readme says so?
[09:52] <eto> there is actually no configre in the whole fsken tree
[09:52] <eto> only configure.ac
[09:52] <Sandking> Doyle: yeah, i do it all the time, sometimes a quick tip on irc channel is worth a long time search
[09:52] <today> bye theadmin, bye everyone
[09:52] <eto> i am asking what run it with?
[09:53] <ikonia> eto: you don't run it
[09:53] <eto> okay this useles
[09:53] <Kep> psycho_oreos i dont know how to do that on the console, and when i try to run KNetworkManager, nothing happens
[09:53] <eto> and what i do with it?
[09:53] <eto> ikonia: ?
[09:53] <Kep> psycho_oreos so much pb with wireless. .... :-(
[09:53] <ikonia> eto: what package have you downloaded ?
[09:53] <darwin_> theadmin, i connect to server, but nothing happens.
[09:53] <Elfix> hi, somebody knows if clamav can detect windows viruses from a linux system?
[09:53] <psycho_oreos> Kep: pastebin (not paste) your dmesg
[09:53] <darwin_> it's just there..
[09:54] <eto> package? i checked out svn trunk as they said on their site
[09:54] <ikonia> eto: ok so you need to build an autoconf environment
[09:54] <eto> gr8 we are getting somewhere
[09:54] <hateball> darwin_: yes, thats what you use it for :)
[09:54] <eto> how do i do that?
[09:54] <ikonia> eto: any reason you didn't just download 0.7.4 ?
[09:54] <ikonia> !info remmina
[09:54] <darwin_> what hateball?
[09:55] <Elfix> I've installed clamav and I've just run clamscan on the Windows system directory, but I don't know if it is going to work
[09:55] <darwin_> i was looking for a remote desktop to connect to my VPS
[09:55] <Kep> psycho_oreos i dont understand what you want
[09:55] <hateball> darwin_: ugh, that was meant for Elfix
[09:55] <darwin_> and he said jrdesktop would work fine
[09:55] <eto> ubuntu 8.04 ? because 9.04 and 9.10 freeze with rdesktop on these machines?
[09:55] <darwin_> oh, okay.
[09:55] <ikonia> eto: there is a precompiled version for karmic in Llyzs's PPA
[09:55] <darwin_> Could anybody help me?
[09:55] <Doyle> Kep: use this command 'cat /var/log/dmesg |grep -i eth0'
[09:55] <ikonia> eto: and a pre-compiled package for Jaunty
[09:55] <hateball> Elfix: That's how it's used. As for detection rate... it's so-so
[09:55] <eto> yeah and graphics doesn't work too
[09:56] <eto> jaunty and karmic are 9 range
[09:56] <eto> aren't they?
[09:56] <ikonia> eto: 9 range ?
[09:56] <Elfix> hateball: ah, good. Thanks.
[09:56] <eto> ubuntu 9 doesn't
[09:56] <eto> it
[09:56] <ikonia> eto: oh, I see, you want this for 8.04
[09:56] <eto> gr8
[09:56] <eto> exactly, rdesktop does funky think with focus when alt-tabbing
[09:57] <eto> women can't worka fter changing keyboard in rdp window
[09:57] <darwin_> could anybody help me?
[09:57] <eto> so i was suggested remmina , now if you are so king guys i would really like to try to compile it
[09:57] <ikonia> eto: there is a public mailing list for support of remmina
[09:57] <ortsvorsteher> !anybody | darwin_
[09:57] <ikonia> darwin_: ask a question
[09:57] <eto> *kind
[09:57] <Doyle> darwin_:  whats the q? just ask
[09:58] <darwin_> I need a good remote desktop program, i'm going to connect to my VPS, i can't find any!
[09:58] <Doyle> darwin_: yuuguu
[09:58] <ikonia> darwin_: vnc, rdesktop, freenx - have you looked at them ?
[09:58] <eto> so basically i should write there ./configure doesn't work on 8.04 on svn trunk or what?
[09:59] <Kep> psycho_oreos i have no idea what is the command but here is the resust : eth0: Digital Ds21140 Tulip rev 32 at Port .... ... IRQ 11 and on a second ligne eth0: Using EEPROM-set media 100baseTx-FDX
[09:59] <darwin_> ikonia, i've tried VNC, didn't really work.
[09:59] <darwin_> Doyle, i'll check that out.
[09:59] <cybin> hi
[09:59] <eto> this is really useless but thank you all really
[09:59] <ikonia> eto: configure doesn't exist as you have not created an autoconf environment, I would advise you don't use trunk, and use a stable build and contact the developers on the mailing list for support
[09:59] <Kep> psycho_oreos there are some decimal numbers before on each line
[09:59] <eto> ikonia : well okay i ask antoher way
[10:00] <eto> how can i create that autoconf environment?
[10:00] <cybin> guys, I want to set the cursor color in .gtkrc-2.0. I inserted a GtkWidget::cursor-color="#FFFFFF" but it doesn't change anything in bluefish. Any ideas?
[10:00] <ikonia> eto: I'll tell you another way. I advise you to NOT use a trunk build if you don't know what you are doing, and use a stable build. If you have any problems with the package, there is a public mailing list for you to get support from
[10:01] <psycho_oreos> Kep: those aren't part of rtl8187
[10:01] <Doyle> Kep: ok, it doesn't list your wireless card. The system flat-out doesn't see it. Period. Bizzar.
[10:02] <eto> okay ikonia let's pretend i know what i am doing, how can i create autoconf environment on ubuntu 8.04 linux please?
[10:02] <ikonia> eto: no, use the stable version
[10:02] <darwin_> Doyle, i got yuuguu now, could you please guide me through to connect to the VPS?
[10:02] <Doyle> Kep: you ahve the cd. Go to synamptic package manager. Click on settings/repositories, other software, add cd-rom, update your repositores, load the drivers with Hardware DRivers (found under ADministration), rboot.
[10:03] <eto> ikonia : okay can you please tell me where can i get stable version of remmina for ubuntu 8.04?
[10:04] <ikonia> eto: it's on the download page
[10:04] <ikonia> eto: the stable released source code
[10:04] <Kep> Doyle sounds good, i work on it, thx much
[10:04] <Doyle> darwin_: http://www.yuuguu.com/help
[10:05] <Doyle> Kep: good luck... psycho_oreos and I just can't belive it doesn't show up at all.
[10:05] <abcdef> hello
[10:05] <eto> ikonia : are you reffering to 7.04?
[10:05] <ikonia> eto: no
[10:05] <eto> 0.7.4?
[10:05] <eto> sorry
[10:05] <darwin_> Doyle, you need to provide e-mail etc. My VPS dosn't got that.
[10:06] <ikonia> eto: I'm refering to the stable source code as I've just said
[10:06] <eto> nevrmind thank
[10:06] <eto> i least i know i must now google hour to solve some frigging configure breakage
[10:06] <Doyle> darwin_: are you ok with terminal only connection? or does it have to be desktop?
[10:06] <ikonia> eto: therei s no configure breakage
[10:06] <eto> hours
[10:06] <ikonia> eto: if you use the stable version source code, configure will be there
[10:07] <darwin_> Doyle, desktop. Since i have to go on internet etc.
[10:07] <immortal_soul_> does anyone here kno how to install sound drivers ?
[10:08] <yongstone> ?
[10:08] <thecookie> So, anyone but me having probs installing lucid beta 2?
[10:08] <ikonia> thecookie: lucid is discussed in the channel #ubuntu+1
[10:09] <psycho_oreos> !lucid | thecookie
[10:09] <thecookie> I see
[10:09] <thecookie> Thanks
[10:10] <liujing3> hi
[10:10] <silv3r_m00n> please suggest some circuit analysis software for ubuntu
[10:11] <eto> ikonia : okay i donloaded tarred 0.7.4 which seems latest stable
[10:11] <eto> yes you are right configure is there
[10:12] <eto> it now chokes on intltool is too old
[10:12] <coz_> silv3r_m00n,    http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2169   take a look here
[10:12] <ikonia> eto: yes, you have to meet the dependencies
[10:12] <darwin_> ikonia, none of them work for me to connect to my VPS..
[10:12] <Doyle> darwin_: If there's no one at the other end, you'll have to use something like vnc. or freenx as mentioned earlier. I haven't played with freenx, but vnc is well documented. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[10:12] <ikonia> darwin_: what is your VPS running
[10:13] <darwin_> Windows
[10:13] <darwin_> Doyle, i can't get the VNC server.
[10:13] <darwin_> or else i'd use that
[10:13] <ikonia> darwin_: what is your VPS running
[10:13] <knoppies> darwin_, can you not install an RDP client on your PC?
[10:13] <darwin_> Sever 2003
[10:14] <darwin_> Windows server 2003
[10:14] <ikonia> darwin_: ok - so you need to use rdesktop on your ubuntu client
[10:14] <ikonia> !rdesktop
[10:14] <darwin_> ikonia, i installed it. and i ran install.sh in the terminal
[10:14] <Doyle> darwin_: here's an example for server 2003. http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-remote-desktop-for-controlling-windows-xp-desktop.html
[10:14] <knoppies> darwin_, I played with RDP in ubuntu a little. I think Windows server will have the RDP server installed and running by default.
[10:14] <darwin_> a box appeared and dissaperaed
[10:14] <ikonia> darwin_: you shouldn't need to run install.sh - it's a package in the ubuntu repo
[10:14] <darwin_> oh, let me check the map.
[10:14] <darwin_> knoppies, i'll check that out. thanks :)
[10:15] <darwin_> Doyle, i'll check that out too, thanks.
[10:15] <Doyle> good team effort there
[10:15] <knoppies> Doyle, I wonder if we have hit him with too much info at once.
[10:16] <Doyle> knoppies: Machoman style
[10:16] <jNovice> hi, my ubuuntu 9.04 bahave very strange
[10:17] <knoppies> jNovice, define "very strange"
[10:17] <jNovice> process mount.ntfs-3g use 100% of procesor
[10:17] <Doyle> as fun as this is, I've gotta crash. I have a whole day of sleeping to do tomorrow so I want to rest up for it.
[10:17] <DarthPuff> !openoffice.org-gtk
[10:18] <knoppies> hmm, jNovice does it only use 100% while you are copy-ing to/from the ntfs partition?
[10:19] <darwin_> ikonia, i ran the configure, nothing really happen'd. I have no idea how to install this.
[10:19] <eto> okay after isntalling inttool i ended up with failure: Requested 'glib-2.0 >= 2.20.0' but version of GLib is 2.18.2 and Requested 'glib-2.0 >= 2.20.0' but version of GLib is 2.18.2
[10:19] <jNovice> knoppies: no. I start my computer today, few hours ago. And now I browse some web pages and I hear hat fan on cput is louder so I go to "system monitor" and I see 100%usage
[10:19] <ikonia> darwin_: what part of "you don't have to build it" am I not making clear - it's a package in the ubuntu software repos
[10:19] <jNovice> knoppies: there's no operations on hdd
[10:19] <eto> can somehow dodge that or i need to enter another dependency hell of searching how to get those working on my current ubuntu?
[10:19] <darwin_> oh, sorry.
[10:20] <knoppies> jNovice, do you have an ntfs partition mounted? (or connected and not mounted)
[10:20] <Emmy> hi guys
[10:21] <jNovice> knoppies: few mounted partitions, I have this OS form last yar and I don't change anything
[10:21] <Flannel> eto: inttool or intitool?
[10:21] <Flannel> eto: er, intltool (L? I? or nothing?)
[10:23] <Emmy> yesterday my amarok gave a me a weird erro : | when loading my library an alert box appeared with the follow message : " B is true" what is that suppose to mean ?
[10:23] <scq> Hello! is it possible to install package for one user alone?
[10:23] <ziroday> Emmy: #kubuntu may be more help :)
[10:24] <knoppies> jNovice, that is strange. When you copy-paste from an NTFS partition, it doesnt seem to use your DMA controller, and so the CPU goes up to 100% (its I/O wait using the excessive CPU). But if your not copy-pasting, then it is very odd. I don't think I can help you.
[10:24] <eto> Flannel : it was intltool
[10:24] <eto> but that is solved
[10:24] <Flannel> eto: intltool is in the repositories, just sudo apt-get install intltool
[10:24] <eto> now the gtk is outdated
[10:24] <ziroday> scq: which program?
[10:24] <eto> Flannel : already did that, but thanx
[10:24] <jNovice> knoppies: I'll try restart, and if this come again, I'll install new ubuntu.
[10:24] <Emmy> what player you recommend me instead? (no video features need)
[10:25] <scq> ziroday: any .deb pakage
[10:25] <knoppies> jNovice, that is probably what I would do.
[10:25] <SandGorgon> Emmy, clementine player
[10:25] <ziroday> scq: well you could restrict the execute permissions of the binary to only a certain group, but that's...icky
[10:25] <eto> Flannel do you have any idea whether i can do something about this: Requested 'glib-2.0 >= 2.20.0' but version of GLib is 2.18.2 and Requested 'glib-2.0 >= 2.20.0' but version of GLib is 2.18.2
[10:26] <scq> ziroday: no other way?
[10:26] <ziroday> scq: not that I know of
[10:26] <knoppies> I want to put multiple ISO images onto a USB stick (bootable ISOs, like liveCDs and installers) and then use a bootloader like menu to pick from one of them. Anybody have any ideas? (Im off to search the forums now, but Im not sure what kind of tags to search for).
[10:26] <scq> ziroday: well thanks
[10:26] <Flannel> eto: You shouldn't get any "dependency hell", stop installing arbitrary packages outside of the repos (or, fix your repositories)
[10:27] <scq> Any package to work with mobile phone contacts and phonebook?
[10:27] <eto> Flannel : i am compiling from svn i guess those things are not present on ubuntu 8.04
[10:27] <eto> how can i cchek it?
[10:27] <scq> Any package to work with mobile phone contacts and phonebook?
[10:27] <chitti_> hi
[10:27] <ikonia> eto: what part am I not making clear about not using SVN
[10:27] <dmhouse> Hi guys. How stable is Lucid? I'm having problems with my wireless (ath9k driver), which the web says are fixed in the more recent kernel that Lucid ships with. Is it still pretty buggy, or is it in practice fine?
[10:27] <Flannel> eto: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/intltool  it's available for Hardy too.  You shouldn't need to compile.
[10:27] <Emmy> hum clementine seems very nice : O I didn't know about this until now. Thank you : )
[10:27] <knoppies> scq, dont repeat so quickly. I kinda remember seeing the word SIM in the repos once, but I dont think it was related to mobile phone contacts.
[10:28] <knoppies> scq, I could look in synaptic for you, if you want?
[10:28] <chitti_> hi
[10:28] <ikonia> eto: if the stable version is too new - then the SVN version is very new, and uyou've already explained you don't know what you're doing
[10:28] <chitti_> any one knows about mysql config in ubuntu 9.10
[10:28] <chitti_> please help me
[10:28] <ziroday> !ymmv > dmhouse
[10:28] <ikonia> chitti_: /etc/my.cnf
[10:29] <scq> knoppies: that was by mistake. I have checked Synaptic but none for contacts...
[10:29] <DDAZZA> Hello, I've just installed a game called Urban Terror however I screwed up the resolution so its somthing like 1600x10 How can I reset this?
[10:29] <eto> Flannel : i installed inttool that is fixed i am repeating that 3rd time
[10:29] <chitti_> i have made that
[10:29] <eto> ikonia : i said i downloaded latest stable
[10:29] <chitti_> but the problem still
[10:29] <Flannel> eto: So this is unreated to intltool entirely?  Alright.  What /else/ did you install manually and try and install?
[10:29] <ikonia> eto: you said you're compiling from svn
[10:29] <chitti_> svn means
[10:29] <knoppies> scq, ok, then Im afraid I dont think I can help you.
[10:29] <Emmy> clementine is a software for kde or for gnome?
[10:29] <eto> i installed every dev mentioned in readme that went fine
[10:29] <ikonia> chitti_: what is the problem
[10:30] <scq> knoppies: thank you
[10:30] <eto> ikonia : i said later i donwloaded stable and that configure ran till intltool
[10:30] <eto> i installed that
[10:30] <knoppies> scq, anytime.
[10:30] <eto> now i am stuck on Requested 'glib-2.0 >= 2.20.0' but version of GLib is 2.18.2 and Requested 'glib-2.0 >= 2.20.0' but version of GLib is 2.18.2
[10:30] <Flannel> eto: What else did you try and install?
[10:31] <eto> nothing besides tools mentioned in readme
[10:31] <Flannel> eto: Which tools are those?
[10:31] <eto> i am on ubuntu 8.04 there is no package for that i am building latest stable from source forge tar
[10:31] <Flannel> eto: No package for what?
[10:32] <eto> libgtk2.0-dev libssh-dev libavahi-ui-dev libvte-dev libgcrypt11-dev libunique-d
[10:32] <eto> ev
[10:32] <chitti_> i dont no when i type in command mysql it will shows some socket error
[10:32] <eto> for remmina
[10:32] <eto> Flannel : for remmina
[10:32] <Flannel> eto: remmina is in the repositories too, sudo apt-get install remmina
[10:33] <ikonia> chitti_: is mysql running
[10:33] <chitti_> i am a new one i dont no wht is its state
[10:33] <eto> apt says Broken packages
[10:34] <Flannel> eto: Because remmina is only available for Lucid, not Hardy.  It won't be able to be successfully backported due to the depedencies involved.
[10:34] <Nijverheid> do any of you guys have a link or a quick explanation of what dpkg does?
[10:35] <eto> http://pastebin.org/147994
[10:35] <ziroday> Nijverheid: man dpkg?
[10:35] <eto> okay so i can do it, officialy you say it's not doable, Flannel right?
[10:35] <LetsGo67> How do I downgrade my kernel to 2.6.27?
[10:35] <Nijverheid> ziroday: d'oh... yeah I forgot about that >_< thanks
[10:35] <argonaut1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dpkg
[10:35] <chitti_> hello sir <ikonia>  .are u there
[10:36] <Flannel> eto: No, you can't do it.  That's why you've got broken packages.
[10:36] <argonaut1> http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkgtools.en.html
[10:36] <Flannel> eto: the only way you can do it is to upgrade to Lucid
[10:37] <argonaut1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manual_page_(Unix)
[10:37] <chitti_> help me in the mysql
[10:37] <eto> grdc is previous version but on install i get: Package grdc is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source However the following packages replace it:  remmina
[10:37] <chitti_> help me in the mysql
[10:37] <eto> Lucid chokes on this machines those are nec powermate ml5, unexpected freezes
[10:38] <eto> Flannel, ikonia,  so the conclusion is no remmina grdc for me i am stuck with broken rdesktop
[10:39] <eto> got it right_
[10:39] <eto> ?
[10:40] <om26er> eto, /join #ubuntu+1
[10:40] <eto> om26er : and what there?
[10:41] <om26er> eto, you write "Lucid chokes on this machines those are nec powermate ml5, unexpected freezes" lucid support is at #ubuntu+
[10:42] <chitti_> i found a bug in ubuntu
[10:42] <eto> om26er:  i asked before here it went nowhere, i just dongraded several months ago to previous version
[10:42] <chitti_> i have a bug
[10:42] <om26er> chitti_, explain
[10:43] <kylie__> hey guys I have a 3945ABG wireless card on hardy heron, it isn't connecting to any wireless networks, i have removed networkmanager and installed Wicd, no luck there, anyone help me?
[10:43] <eto> chitti_ : then just file the bug report and don't jump here like little kid
[10:43] <chitti_> ok
[10:43] <nishanth> quiet splash i915.modeset=0 any one know what this does?
[10:43] <ikonia> chitti_: what is teh bug
[10:43] <LetsGo67> Mhm.  It involves machine code.;
[10:43] <chitti_> open the terminal type yes
[10:43] <LetsGo67> How do I downgrade my kernel to 2.6.27?
[10:43] <samc> I wish, it's machine code
[10:44] <chitti_> any one got that
[10:44] <ikonia> chitti_: what is the bug
[10:44] <eto> well yes chitti_
[10:44] <eto> it's the tool for borken nix program to print eternal lines of yes
[10:44] <chitti_> what is the problem with that
[10:44] <chitti_> mr eto