[11:14] <CTPAYC> however the unix codes haven't changed much
[11:14] <blackhat> Anyone here copy encyrpted DVDS, like putting in a dvd movie, making it an iso on the computer, then burning it to a new dvd disc and playing it?
[11:14] <GhostFreeman> Is it wrong to still use Windows for games
[11:14] <darksoul> ithiel: i downloaded the linux version, the demo, i have a 1.4ghz cpu, 384mb ram, my 3d card is a XTASY 9600SE 128mb 8X AGP graphics by ATI
[11:14] <gnomefreak> CTPAYC, the problem is that some things in there dont work or break things some might work but noone can say weather or not what worked for you will work for them and not break their pc
[11:14] <roshan> any instructions for setting up swsusp2 in dapper?
[11:14] <selinium> CTPAYC, will you be around to help fix the broken PCs from users who have borked there machines from following ubuntuguide?
[11:15] <ithiel> darksoul, sorry man, but your ATI is going to kill you on Linux, its bad enough that ATI's suck for Doom3 in the first place
[11:15] <dooglus> blackhat: what if you just copy the .iso from the disk using 'dd'?  and then burn it using k3b?
[11:15] <CTPAYC> thats life :)
[11:15] <glick> man if they released civ 4 for linux id be the happiest boy
[11:15] <aris> dooglus, won't work
[11:15] <GhostFreeman> I used my ATI for Doom3-demo
[11:15] <dooglus> blackhat: I've not tried it
[11:15] <NoUse> darksoul thats probably why
[11:15] <dooglus> aris: why not?
[11:15] <ithiel> darksoul, acquire an NVidia 6600GT or 6800GS I would recommend
[11:15] <Chris_Tucker> GhostFreeman, not really...   but by the way.. there is a strange thing i have never figured out that allows users to log in to GDM remotely.. i havent looked into it though
[11:15] <darksoul> ithiel: meh...what 3d card sould i get then?
[11:15] <Chris_Tucker> anyone know how to change which sound device my keyboard vol up/down buttons control?
[11:15] <ithiel> GhostFreeman, fine, race me
[11:15] <aris> dooglus, because the dvd have several anti copy protections
[11:15] <aris> like bad sectors
[11:15] <darksoul> ithiel: how much are they?
[11:15] <CTPAYC> lol ok
[11:15] <NoUse> darksoul Doom requires a MIN of 384MB memory
[11:15] <ithiel> darksoul, depends on how much $$$ you can spend, and whether you've got AGP or PCI-E
[11:15] <selinium> jandusion, Did you get the message about ubuntuguide? Please dont use it... :)
[11:15] <GhostFreeman> ithiel: It crashed 2 minutes into the game
[11:15] <dooglus> aris: I see
[11:16] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, hello :) sorry for nagging. but still nothing :(
[11:16] <CTPAYC> well no one still has answered my question and here you are bashing me for sugessting something :)
[11:16] <aris> dooglus, but it works with some cheap dvds
[11:16] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, could it make a difference if I try to start gnome from kdm instead of gdm?
[11:16] <dooglus> aris: what about copying the files from the DVD then, and recreating the .iso file using mkisofs?
[11:16] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: in that case, learn to love kde ;)
[11:16] <Chris_Tucker> anyone know how to change which sound device my keyboard vol up/down buttons control?
[11:16] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: it shouldn't, but worth a shot
[11:16] <darksoul> NoUse: oh....lol well i have a computer with 3.0ghz (amd) and 1024mb ram...but its being a bitch on the gui.. gui wont work..only worked once on suse...and i hate suse...
[11:16] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: on your 'black' screen, can you do "alt+f2" ?
[11:16] <aris> dooglus, the fs you can see by ls, cp etc... isn't enough
[11:16] <NoUse> darksoul the PC you are on doesn't meet doom3 min specs, thats why its slow
[11:17] <aris> there is a program to copy it correctly, but I don't get on its name
[11:17] <cb400f> robotgeek, glick : thanks
[11:17] <jandusion> ok im trying to open System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager but it just wont open.....
[11:17] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, hmm alt-f2? haven't tried that. what does that do?
[11:17] <dooglus> aris: it isn't?  how can DVD players play the disks if the movie depends on stuff that isn't in the filesystem?
[11:17] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: run dialog
[11:17] <GhostFreeman> btw what is the default setting for export DISPLAY
[11:17] <NoUse> jandusion do you get an error message?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> anyone know if breezy has extras backport or just the main backport?
[11:17] <delire_> nice.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/whiprush/63596921/ via http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-November/013048.html
[11:17] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, and what is that?
[11:17] <darksoul> NoUse: i know that now lol..but any ideas on how to get a amd with 1024mb ram and 3.0ghz cpu to run the gui of linux..as in gnome or kde
[11:17] <jandusion> nouse> nope
[11:17] <selinium> jandusion, private message?
[11:17] <NoUse> GhostFreeman export DISPLAY=":0"
[11:18] <NoUse> darksoul what kind of video card? thats the more important piece of info
[11:18] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: then you can run "xterm" or "firefox" or "gaim" or "rhythmbox" or whatever other ap you want
[11:18] <jandusion> i didnt get any kind of messages
[11:18] <aris> dooglus, the way linux shows the filesystem if you mount it is not complete
[11:18] <CTPAYC> where is export display hat?
[11:18] <britishseapower> NoUse: i did it
[11:18] <ParTas> Ho have win4lin please msg me tu privat
[11:18] <Chris_Tucker> anyone know how to change which sound device my keyboard vol up/down buttons control?
[11:18] <NoUse> jandusion open a terminal and run 'ps aux | grep dpkg' and 'ps aux | grep apt' if there are any of those processes running you need to kill then
[11:18] <britishseapower> NoUse: what u said...right clicked and selected VLC.
[11:18] <darksoul> NoUse: right now its old and crappy...i donno..all i know is its very big and prob not that well.. but thats not the point..the point is it cant get past compling
[11:18] <britishseapower> NoUse: and the thing STILL opens in totem.
[11:18] <aris> dooglus, if you look well, dvd player programs like mplayer or xine loads the physical device, not the mounted filesystem
[11:19] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, aha I see. when gnome fails where does it leave logs? I have checked syslog it was something about gconfd there, it said stuff like this is read-only and this is write, etc.
[11:19] <NoUse> darksoul Nvidia cards are the easiest to get working in Linux
[11:19] <OneSeventeen> each time I try to copy a folder, it says "omitting folder /the/one/you/wanted/to/copy"
[11:19] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: got me :)
[11:19] <OneSeventeen> (using cp)
[11:19] <OneSeventeen> any ideas on how I can copy this folder?
[11:19] <bur[n] er> OneSeventeen: cp -R
[11:19] <NoUse> britishseapower did you select VLC from the open with tab in the properties window?
[11:19] <NoUse> britishseapower NOT from the pop-up menu?
[11:19] <darksoul> NoUse: the 3d card IS NOT the problem the freekin problem is i cant install linux with a gui, only server only, the system wont complie if i do a full install
[11:19] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, you don't know? :)
[11:20] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: no idea
[11:20] <britishseapower> NoUse: yes...the open with.
[11:20] <OneSeventeen> bur[n] er: thanks!  I kind of forgot to make it recursive...
[11:20] <selinium> darksoul,  I am using an AMD900 with 128k ram
[11:20] <NoUse> britishseapower which open with? you need to do it from inside the properties window
[11:20] <britishseapower> did.
[11:20] <ParTas> Ho have win4lin please msg me tu privat
[11:20] <glick> selinium, get some more ram
[11:20] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, anything else I should reinstall? and btw are there a simpler way to set kdm as the default except removing gdm?
[11:20] <NoUse> darksoul and what do you think would keep ubuntu from running in GUI mode? an incompatible video card?
[11:20] <britishseapower> anyway maybe totems not so bad...just hid the controls...better.
[11:21] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[11:21] <selinium> glick, nar, i live life in the slow lane!
[11:21] <NoUse> darksoul and ubuntu doesn't 'compile'
[11:21] <glick> 128k?
[11:21] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, ah neat.
[11:21] <darksoul> NoUse: ..are you telling me it wont install couse of my video card..
[11:21] <NoUse> darksoul does the installation fail or does it finish and he GUI won't start?
[11:21] <delire_> NoUse: hehe i was wondering whether we should point him to #gentoo ;)
[11:21] <selinium> jandusion, how are you doing?
[11:21] <pluffsy> reboot...
[11:22] <darksoul> NoUse: the installtion fails, it gets past installing, then you reboot and it complies or goes thru all that code, and it never ends
[11:22] <barongas> What's a good size for a swap partition for a low ram computer?
[11:22] <jandusion> dunno >P fine i guess.. im working on that apps wont open
[11:22] <NoUse> darksoul ubuntu doesn't compile!
[11:22] <darkheart> What's the command to show the bus IDs of the devices on your system?
[11:22] <astor> does anyone know a tool that can act as a server and listen to a port and write a capture file that can be read by ethreal.  the whole point being that you don't need to be root to capture the data.
[11:22] <CTPAYC> ... does anyone know?
[11:22] <delire_> darkheart: lspci
[11:22] <NoUse> darksoul I would try with a diff video card
[11:22] <darkheart> delire_ Thanks.
[11:22] <NoUse> darksoul but what 'code' are you talking about?
[11:22] <glick> i hope ubuntu compiles!
[11:23] <darksoul> NoUse: then whatever it is..i see a crap load of code being installed after then install, on restart, it does the same on the computer that im using atm, however it got past that part
[11:23] <jasongrieves> anyone really familiar with X and vfb?
[11:23] <darksoul> NoUse: right after install it installs the packages, and you see a ton of code
[11:23] <NoUse> darksoul right, it installs all the packages
[11:23] <delire_> darkheart: or, if brave, try changing /etc/X11/xorg.conf to read 'vesa' in the driver section for you video card.
[11:23] <glick> NoUse, hehe those are messages, not code
[11:23] <GhostFreeman> where is there a good idiot proof buildkernel tut
[11:23] <delire_> darkheart: sorry intended for 'darksoul'
[11:23] <jandusion> jandusion@ubuntu:~$ ps aux | grep dpkg
[11:23] <jandusion> 1000      9975  0.0  0.0   1620   484 pts/0    R+   23:21   0:00 grep dpkg
[11:23] <jandusion> jandusion@ubuntu:~$ ps aux | grep apt
[11:23] <jandusion> 1000      9991  0.0  0.0   1624   488 pts/0    R+   23:22   0:00 grep apt
[11:23] <jandusion>     ok what does this meen
[11:23] <NoUse> glick yes I know
[11:23] <delire_> darksoul: or, if brave, try changing /etc/X11/xorg.conf to read 'vesa' in the driver section for you video card.
[11:23] <CTPAYC> ok i have my laptop hooked up to a tv with an svideo cable how in ubuntu do i make it show?
[11:23] <NoUse> jandusion read the topic! don't paste
[11:23] <selinium> jandusion, Dont patse in here!
[11:24] <darksoul> NoUse: however on my amd, whatever glick.. on my amd it just never ends and keeps going over and over and over the same thing for hours
[11:24] <jandusion> srry man didn know
[11:24] <NoUse> darksoul sounds like a memory or CPU problem
[11:24] <mindtzar> hey, is there a search tool in ubuntu?
[11:24] <selinium> jandusion, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl  :)
[11:24] <bimberi> jandusion: that you're not running any apt or dpkg processes (apart from the search for them)
[11:24] <darksoul> NoUse: prob..all i know is server only install works..
[11:24] <glick> darksoul, are you using the proper ubuntu versioni?
[11:24] <mindtzar> im trying to find where the xchat folder is
[11:24] <selinium> mindtzar, yes, you can use find or locate in term
[11:24] <jandusion> and thats a good thing??
[11:24] <mindtzar> okay
[11:24] <mindtzar> thanks
[11:24] <darksoul> glick: i tryed the x86 and the 64bit
[11:25] <bur[n] er> mindtzar: why you need the xchat 'folder'?
[11:25] <NoUse> darksoul have you tried doing a server install and then 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[11:25] <bimberi> jandusion: yes, if you're wanting to run a dpkg or apt command (you can't run 2 at once)
[11:25] <mindtzar> bur[n] er, so I can put my perl script into the auto-load folder
[11:25] <darksoul> NoUse: yes...and it doesnt start up with the desktop
[11:25] <bur[n] er> mindtzar: tried ~/.xchat ?
[11:25] <darkheart> delire_ Np.
[11:25] <glick> darksoul, and when does it do this?
[11:25] <bur[n] er> mindtzar: ~/.xchat2 that is
[11:25] <mindtzar> ahokay
[11:25] <darksoul> NoUse: im guessing i need to enable GDM or somthing..i just dont know how lol
[11:25] <mindtzar> thanks
[11:26] <selinium> jandusion, When you want to paste something use the paste bin at the URL i gave you earlier. What are you trying to do?
[11:26] <NoUse> darksoul I forget how
[11:26] <darksoul> NoUse: i havent tried the breezy version yet......sould i?
[11:26] <NoUse> darksoul of course
[11:26] <bur[n] er> darksoul: definately use breezy :)
[11:26] <jandusion> im trying to open the pagage manager, but it just wont open
[11:26] <NoUse> jandusion reboot and try again
[11:26] <delire_> jandusion: 'sudo synaptic'
[11:27] <selinium> jandusion, also if you type the first few letters of someones nickname and the the tab key, it will auto complete. typing a persons nick lets thenm know you are talking to them
[11:27] <bur[n] er> delire_: might be best to tell folks to "gksudo" ... "gksudo synaptic"
[11:27] <CTPAYC> i guess i shouldn't have even bothered
[11:27] <CTPAYC> bye
[11:27] <darksoul> alright im going to try
[11:27] <glick> i want to start a christian computer repair/technical support company...people call with computer problems and for $19.95 we will pray with them that Jesus fixes their computer
[11:27] <bimberi> only need sudo if running from a terminal
[11:27] <selinium> jandusion, how are you trying to open synaptic?
[11:28] <delire_> bur[n] er: sure, though i've never used it. what is 'gksudo' - a gtk frontend for sudo?
[11:28] <bur[n] er> delire_: exactly
[11:28] <ke> glick, you could also start an islamic support company - and when people call, their box blows up :P
[11:28] <lightseek> I dont understand why they cant add kppp and modem connextion to menu like Simply Mepis for example!  that way Ubuntu would win many more people over to it
[11:29] <glick> ke, or a christian pizza place called Cheesus Chrust
[11:29] <lightseek> glick, im a Christian too
[11:29] <nalioth> ke: be polite please,
[11:29] <selinium> ke,  NOT FUNNY read the http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[11:29] <nalioth> glick: you too, y'all are offtopic here
[11:29] <ke> J/k...
[11:29] <nalioth> ke: some things we shouldn't kid about
[11:29] <ke> Ok
[11:29] <selinium> glick, you too  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[11:29] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, hmm now in kdm it worked.
[11:29] <lightseek> glick, http://www.eternaljoy.pfwh.net/  <--- thats my Christian website
[11:29] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: nice :)
[11:29] <gnomefreak> <<not amused and still not sure how to make myself say something
[11:29] <nalioth> lightseek: you are offtopic also
[11:30] <lightseek> glick,  you like it?
[11:30] <glick> lightseek, hah im gonna check it out
[11:30] <jandusion> delire_       *sudo synaptic*   then i use that command nothing hapends.... and  if i dont use the sudo i get an error message who tells me that i need to run this program as root
[11:30] <lightseek> glick, ok thanks tell me your feedback please
[11:30] <nalioth> you guys need to go to #ubuntu-offtopic for that please
[11:30] <selinium> gnomefreak, type /me  before what you want to say!
[11:30] <ke> It's dropped now
[11:30] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, don't like when it feels just weird and I don't get why it works or doesn't. well well. :)
[11:30] <defcon4> can someone tell me how to run gdesklets?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> jandusion: you find synaptic under system>admin
[11:31] <lightseek> jandusion, type this: gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic
[11:31] <gnomefreak> ty selinium
[11:31] <glick> lightseek, i dont believe in the content, but the layout is nice in that it goes well with the theme of the site
[11:31] <selinium> gnomefreak, np
[11:31] <lightseek> jandusion, gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic  <-- type that from Console and it will work :)
[11:31] <darksoul> NoUse: how big sould swap be on a 300gb hdd?
[11:31] <lightseek> glick, ok thanks!  and you havent read it yet so how can you disagree with its content? :P
[11:31] <NoUse> darksoul usually you just match your ram
[11:31] <bur[n] er> defcon4: alt+f2, gdesklets
[11:31] <nalioth> lightseek: go to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:31] <defcon4> ok
[11:32] <lightseek> jandusion, did the command work that I gave you?
[11:32] <lightseek> nalioth, sorry
[11:32] <darksoul> NoUse: err so for 1024mb ram will 3.1gb be good? or sould i make it 5
[11:32] <lightseek> nalioth, it wont happen again
[11:32] <gnomefreak> is he trying to run synaptic or install it?
[11:32] <jandusion> lightseek, nope... >S
[11:32] <ktogias> Hi, I just downloaded from skype.org the newest skype debian package, and overrided a depedency error with  dpkg --force-depends -i skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb. The package has been installed and the program works perfectly, but I get a prompt to run apt-get -f install when i apt-get upgrade from now on... Does anyone know how to resolve the situation without uninstalling the new version?
[11:32] <nalioth> darksoul: use 512mb for your swap
[11:32] <bur[n] er> darksoul: u prolly need no more than 512 for swap
[11:32] <ktogias> breezy
[11:32] <lightseek> jandusion, gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic  <-- type that from Console
[11:32] <bur[n] er> ;)  good call nalioth
[11:32] <NoUse> darksoul thats tripling your ram, I said match but if you want to put 3GB of swap, have at it
[11:32] <darksoul> yea..ill just keep it as it set it up..3.1gb
[11:33] <lightseek> nalioth, can you please tell me if my sources.list is ok for Breezy?  im new, my first day running it!
[11:33] <NoUse> !tell lightseek about repos
[11:33] <delire_> glick: you might be needing a hand from "The Patron Saint of Personal Computers" http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/sainti04.htm
[11:33] <nalioth> lightseek: if you just installed it, it is fine
[11:33] <lightseek> jandusion, what happens when you type: gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic  ?
[11:33] <NoUse> lightseek copy the sources.list from the link ubotu sent you
[11:34] <lightseek> NoUse,  I updated it already.  but can you tell me if its ok?
[11:34] <lightseek> NoUse, yes I did that but I also uncommented some from the existing one
[11:34] <NoUse> lightseek if you just copied from whats on the site, you're fine
[11:34] <bimberi> ktogias: uninstall and install the skype package available at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:34] <nalioth> ubuntu: tell lightseek about paste
[11:34] <darksoul> NoUse: if it gets stuck again ill tell you what its stuck on
[11:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lightseek about paste
[11:34] <jandusion> lightseek, umm nothing.. no apps or anything is opending
[11:34] <bur[n] er> Firefox 1.5 is out!!
[11:34] <nalioth> lightseek: paste it to a pastebin, please
[11:34] <gnomefreak> bur[n] er,  sitll beta or final release?
[11:34] <darksoul> NoUse: taking forever to partion......big hdd lol
[11:35] <glick> geez i just gave lightseek some feedback on his site
[11:35] <gnomefreak> bimberi,  its new and kinda cool
[11:35] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:35] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: final... no official site news, but it's out on ftp servers
[11:35] <bimberi> gnomefreak: :)
[11:35] <jandusion> lightseek, umm nothing.. no apps or anything is opending
[11:35] <lightseek> NoUse, can you look here please:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4591
[11:35] <lightseek> jandusion, ok you need to reboot, that happened to me too
[11:35] <ktogias> bimberi, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl is not responding to my bowser :( ... Is it down?
[11:36] <lightseek> jandusion, and when I rebooted it worked
[11:36] <jasongrieves> anyone really familiar with X and vfb?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> jandusion: are you trying to run synaptic?
[11:36] <NoUse> lightseek  you have duplicate archives, you just needed to overwrite what you what with what was in the links ubotu sent
[11:36] <bimberi> ktogias: sec, i'll give it a try..
[11:36] <lightseek> nalioth,  can you look here please:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4591
[11:36] <jandusion> lightseek, ok ill reboot and if it wont work ill come back and ask you agian
[11:36] <lightseek> jandusion, ok
[11:36] <ktogias> it just came
[11:36] <selinium> jandusion, type   ps -C synaptic   in term what doaes it say?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> why not just run synaptic from menu?
[11:37] <selinium> jandusion, dont reboot yet...
[11:37] <lightseek> NoUse, but I compared them and some are different
[11:37] <bimberi> ktogias: maybe it's scared of me :P
[11:37] <jandusion> Selinium, /C was not found
[11:37] <NoUse> lightseek you ask for my help and then question my advice
[11:37] <lightseek> NoUse, the website you gave me doesnt have all the ones that existing one had,
[11:37] <jandusion> -C
[11:38] <gnomefreak> if his x is down he couldnt run it from command line anyway
[11:38] <ParTas> how to start .bat file?
[11:38] <NoUse> lightseek those are the standard repos that most everyone uses
[11:38] <lightseek> NoUse, im not challenging your advice, im trying to learn how to get ALL repos in there
[11:38] <NoUse> lightseek those are all of them
[11:38] <blackhat> Anyone here successfully COPY ENCRYPTED DVDS in Linux and able to watch them in DVD PLAYER?
[11:38] <selinium> jandusion, You should get something even if it isnt running?
[11:38] <lightseek> NoUse, if I just use everything from website, will that allow me to also install mp3 support etc?
[11:38] <NoUse> lightseek yes
[11:39] <selinium> jandusion, type    sudo pkill synaptic
[11:39] <paulproteus> ParTas: .BAT files are a DOSism.
[11:39] <selinium> jandusion, them type     gksudo synaptic
[11:39] <lightseek> NoUse, is that website 25 lines only?
[11:39] <paulproteus> ParTas: The analogous thing in Linux is shell scripts.
[11:39] <gnomefreak> blackhat, they are encryped for copyright laws that would be illeagl to break their encryption and we are a legal bunch ;)
[11:39] <NoUse> lightseek I don't know how many lines it has
[11:39] <lightseek> blackhat, thats illegal
[11:39] <NoUse> lightseek http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[11:39] <topyli> how dangerous is athcool really? i'd put it in main and make the k7 kernels depend on it! :-)
[11:40] <lightseek> NoUse,  can you tell me, because I can only see 25lines but I think there more
[11:40] <jandusion> selinium, whatand what is supose to hapen??
[11:40] <ktogias> bimberi, seveas is too slow (at least when reached from greece where i am located)
[11:40] <NoUse> lightseek just run this 'sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:40] <codepoet> does ndiswrapper come with the 5.10 cd?
[11:40] <NoUse> lightseek then run sudo apt-get update
[11:40] <lightseek> NoUse, ahh great command, thanks!  easy
[11:40] <nalioth> blackhat: we dont discuss breaking encryption here
[11:40] <selinium> jandusion, pkill will stop synaptic from running then gksudo synaptic will restart it...
[11:40] <NoUse> lightseek hold on
[11:41] <lightseek> ok
[11:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lightseek about cli
[11:41] <NoUse> lightseek 'sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:41] <bimberi> ktogias: ok, it's probably being hit hard.  Unfortunately i don't have an alternative :/
[11:41] <nalioth> lightseek: the command line is far more powerful than any gui program
[11:41] <Stormx2> Damnit! make it eject!
[11:41] <bimberi> ktogias: Seveas repackages skype to fix that dependency issue you have
[11:41] <topyli> lightseek: of course, you were just "surfing the web" as root but what the hell... ;)
[11:41] <jandusion> selinium, ok iv done it....what i do next?
[11:41] <bimberi> *repackaged
[11:42] <selinium> lol
[11:42] <selinium> jandusion, I dont know what you are trying to install?
[11:42] <ktogias> bimberi, I just guessed it.... Thanks
[11:42] <jandusion> selinium, skype...
[11:42] <ktogias> but I will have to wait about an hour for 7.7MB to be downloaded :(
[11:42] <lightseek> NoUse, it seems it is total 25 lines
[11:43] <ClayG> anything as good as trillain for nix?
[11:43] <NoUse> lightseek ok
[11:43] <ClayG> other than gaim
[11:43] <Stormx2> great.
[11:43] <selinium> lol, ok you dont realy want to use the one in the repo! close synaptic...
[11:43] <nalioth> lightseek: kopete
[11:43] <Stormx2> My keyboard and mouse are working again
[11:43] <Stormx2> *sigh*
[11:43] <lightseek> nalioth, yes but I wanted a gui modem login
[11:43] <Stormx2> now can someone make the cd eject!!! ack!!
[11:43] <sajd> does gksudo hang for anyone else on dapper ?
[11:43] <nalioth> lightseek: i didnt say to throw the gui out the window
[11:43] <Stormx2> My desktop has stopped working. Woo hoo.
[11:43] <lightseek> nalioth, what does kopete mean?
[11:43] <jandusion> selinium, a m8 told me that it was only to use the sudo apt-get install skype command... but it dosent work
[11:43] <Stormx2> wait, make that the panel, task list everything.
[11:43] <NoUse> lightseek nevermind, I think he sent it to the wrong nick
[11:44] <lightseek> NoUse,  :)
[11:44] <NoUse> ClayG you can try kopete
[11:44] <Logi> good evening... I'm running kubuntu and trying to get the amarok mp3 player to play MP3s. I've install gstreamer0.8-plugins (and eventually) restarted X/KDE, but to no avail. Amarok still says streamer claims not to be able to play MP3s and then proceeds to not play MP3s. What do I do?
[11:44] <nalioth> lightseek: it is a multi protocol IM client for kde (similar to gaim)
[11:44] <NoUse> Logi you need to enable the universe repo
[11:44] <aris> install a distro that doesn't fear enfrighting software patents ?
[11:44] <NoUse> !tell Logi about repos
[11:44] <selinium> jandusion, you can use that if you have enabled the right repo...
[11:44] <Stormx2> EJECT EJECT EJECT
[11:44] <aris> !tell aris about repos
[11:44] <Stormx2> finally...
[11:44] <NoUse> Logi use the sources.list ubotu sent you
[11:44] <darksoul> NoUse: ok its configuring/installing packages
[11:44] <Logi> NoUse: I did that, but the gstreamer0.8-plugins was there before universe?
[11:45] <darksoul> NoUse: lets see what happens eh?
[11:45] <selinium> jandusion, type this in a term    sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:45] <topyli> ClayG: if you're a trillian fan, you might as well ask if there's anything as good as trillian for windows
[11:45] <axel> hello everyone
[11:45] <nalioth> Logi: enable universe and multiverse repos
[11:45] <NoUse> Logi I think you need gstream-mad
[11:45] <NoUse> !tell Logi about mp3
[11:45] <Logi> multiverse?
[11:45] <darksoul> NoUse: are there any free games out there for linux, like is doom free?
[11:45] <lightseek> NoUse, ok im using now your sources.list!  and it contains 6 places to download!
[11:45] <nalioth> Logi: yes, universe and multiverse, read what ubotu sent you
[11:45] <Stormx2> darksoul: Unreal Tournament.
[11:46] <NoUse> lightseek sounds good
[11:46] <gnomefreak> here is the newest sources list including both backports and all is working as of right now
[11:46] <darksoul> Stormx2: thats free!?! whats the link!
[11:46] <kemik_> can anyone point me to the Quicktables download ?
[11:46] <NoUse> darksoul you mean the orginal doom?
[11:46] <axel> Does someone know where i can find the powernowd.conf on my system, or anyway a file where i can configure my cpu scaling like the cpufreqd.conf file ??
[11:46] <lightseek> NoUse, can I keep this command for future and if others ask?   sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:46] <kemik_> or know some great firewall tool using curses ?
[11:46] <Logi> nalioth: am doing. I take it multiverse is even less tested/supported than universe then?
[11:46] <NoUse> lightseek yeah if you want
[11:46] <lightseek> NoUse,  will that command work for the future too?
[11:46] <darksoul> NoUse: i dont care..i just want some good free games
[11:46] <herni> right-clicking desktop doesn't give me option "scripts->open scripts folder" like it should according to "ubuntu how come" guide. any idea why?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> http://www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/linux.htm
[11:46] <NoUse> lightseek yeah it should
[11:46] <lightseek> NoUse,  that webpage will stay the same?
[11:46] <lightseek> NoUse,  ok :)
[11:46] <kemik_> !quicktables
[11:46] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, kemik_
[11:46] <darksoul> NoUse: 50%..keep going baby keep going!
[11:47] <nalioth> Logi: they all work well, just less supported by canonical
[11:47] <topyli> darksoul: the dooms, quakes, and other binaries for linux are free, but of course you need the official data files
[11:47] <selinium> jandusion, how are you getting on ?
[11:47] <nalioth> bimberi: you should look into the wget manpage, it does more then you think
[11:47] <bimberi> *wget/pastebin
[11:47] <Logi> nalioth: that's what they said about debian/unstable too :)
[11:47] <NoUse> darksoul you can search synaptic, there is some good stuff in there
[11:47] <darksoul> topyli: *sigh*
[11:47] <kemik_> aaanyone ?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> herni,  either does mine :)
[11:47] <darksoul> NoUse: ..ok looks like its pausing up...
[11:48] <cyphase> Take a look at question 7 -> http://www.mpaa.org/Press/DVD_FAQ.htm
[11:48] <darksoul> NoUse: nvm just was going a bit slow for such a nice prosseser
[11:48] <topyli> darksoul: why would it suddenly be free? just because you're installing it on a free system?
[11:48] <Logi> !java
[11:48] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:48] <darksoul> topyli: yes lol
[11:48] <bimberi> nalioth: thanks, although it's the combination with the pastebin that i didn't know about :)
[11:48] <Logi> !javadebs
[11:48] <ubotu> methinks javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/
[11:48] <lightseek> NoUse, now after a update it found gnome-ppp
[11:48] <Stormx2> Heres an idea for dapper: MAKE THE CDS I BURN READABLE, ALLOW ME TO RIP CDS
[11:48] <darksoul> NoUse: WTF
[11:49] <NoUse> lightseek I expected as much
[11:49] <nalioth> Stormx2: you can't do that now?
[11:49] <darksoul> NoUse: white screen scared me
[11:49] <NoUse> darksoul you need to switch to decaf
[11:49] <Stormx2> nalioth: No.
[11:49] <jandusion> selinium, iv tryed with and without the sudo command biy none works...
[11:49] <Stormx2> nalioth: No burnt (audio) cds play.
[11:49] <nalioth> bimberi: the pastebin offers a downloadable text file free with every use
[11:49] <lightseek> NoUse, when I run gnome-ppp, it says: (gnome-ppp:29728): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[11:49] <lightseek> NoUse,  any idea how to fix that?
[11:49] <darksoul> NoUse: kernel panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt
[11:49] <Stormx2> nalioth: The same cds will work fine when burnt underwinblows.
[11:49] <selinium> jandusion, do this   in term      cd ~/
[11:49] <NoUse> lightseek run it as your user, not as root
[11:50] <lightseek> NoUse,  ah ok
[11:50] <NoUse> darksoul sucks
[11:50] <bimberi> nalioth: yeah, playing with it now :)
[11:50] <khermans> is there a file for the clipboard?  I want to cat a file into my clipbboard so i can paste it
[11:50] <selinium> jandusion, give me an ok when you have done each bit
[11:50] <NoUse> darksoul google that error
[11:50] <darksoul> NoUse: unable to handel kernal paging request at virtual address 672d3273
[11:50] <kemik_> !firewall
[11:50] <ubotu> it has been said that firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter. see !firestarter
[11:50] <NoUse> darksoul I would run a bad sector scan on that disk of yourse
[11:50] <jandusion> selinium, ok..
[11:50] <selinium> jandusion,    wget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/breezy-extras/skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu0_i386.deb
[11:50] <Stormx2> My CDs won't rip. It rips at about 0.5x, my CD drive does 52x. The mp3s SKIP! Now, my audio cds won't play. They won't even play in the drive I just burnt them in.
[11:51] <superbeast> is there a flash substitute for 64 bit ubuntu?
[11:51] <kemik_> could someone please give me a download link for quicktables ? ? ?
[11:51] <darksoul> NoUse: huh? my chip is a sampron and its supposed to be amd64...maby i sould try ubuntu breezy 64
[11:51] <Hostile> Whenever I need to to something which requires password, the box freezes so I can not enter password or or do anything in that desktop, ctrl-alt-bkspace works. Advice?
[11:51] <NoUse> lightseek you aren't running every app as root by default are you?
[11:51] <lightseek> NoUse,  beautiful :) thats what I wanted :)  imho, Ubuntu really should have gnome-ppp already installed and available from menu, like Simply Mepis has!  Because I could tell that 1000's of new people to Linux woudlnt know how to connect to internet using modem when Breeze doesnt have it installed already
[11:51] <NoUse> darksoul try a memtest and a bad sectory scan
[11:51] <Stormx2> ack
[11:51] <NoUse> darksoul something is wrong with your PC
[11:51] <lightseek> NoUse,  no, I typed "sudo -i" and only did apt-get update and the existed
[11:51] <selinium> Stormx2, you need to sort out youir hdpram
[11:52] <darksoul> NoUse: how do i run a mem test and bad sector scan?
[11:52] <NoUse> lightseek ok, don't run normal apps as root
[11:52] <superbeast> is there a flash substitute for 64 bit ubuntu?
[11:52] <selinium> Stormx2, you need to sort out youir hdparm
[11:52] <NoUse> darksoul google around
[11:52] <darksoul> NoUse: meh..
[11:52] <Stormx2> and another thing, why does the "eject" button on my cd drive not work under ubuntu, and why does right clicking the mounted drive icon on my desktop and selecting "eject" do nothing..
[11:52] <darksoul> NoUse: what do you think is wrong?
[11:52] <Stormx2> Well it does
[11:52] <Stormx2> It only takes TEN MINUTES
[11:52] <lightseek> NoUse,  know what I mean?  especially in Australia millions of people still use modem
[11:52] <gnomefreak> running user apps as root is very dangerous
[11:52] <NoUse> darksoul well lets look at wha I said, memtest.. maybe the memory is bad, bad sector scan...  maybe your disk has some bad sectorys
[11:52] <selinium> Stormx2, read what the bot just sent you
[11:52] <superbeast> !flash 64bit
[11:52] <HrdwrBoB> lightseek: fewer and fewer every day
[11:52] <ubotu> Not a clue, superbeast
[11:53] <superbeast> gay
[11:53] <lightseek> NoUse,  why wouldnt Ubuntu have gnome-ppp installed already and ready to load from menu?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> "if you dont know what your doing or you typo"
[11:53] <selinium> jandusion, is it downloading?
[11:53] <Stormx2> selinium: Kay.
[11:53] <darksoul> NoUse: ..right so when i put in the disk to i type in on the install area sector scan?
[11:53] <NoUse> lightseek I'm not in charge of what gets installed by default
[11:53] <jandusion> selinium, jupp
[11:53] <Hostile> Whenever I need to to something which requires password, the box freezes so I can not enter password or or do anything in that desktop, ctrl-alt-bkspace works. Advice?
[11:53] <Stormx2> selinium: This had better make future cds playable.
[11:53] <selinium> jandusion, cool!
[11:53] <NoUse> darksoul I said google around, you'll find it
[11:53] <bimberi> Stormx2: were you copying files from the cd? if so the delay could be in clearing the cache
[11:53] <HrdwrBoB> Logi: just install i386
[11:53] <jandusion> selinium, im done in 4 hours...>P
[11:53] <lightseek> NoUse,  you should be :)
[11:53] <selinium> Stormx2, you will be much happier with DMA switched on
[11:53] <HrdwrBoB> Logi: the speed difference is minimal
[11:53] <superbeast> Lodi, don't forget no 64 bit glash
[11:53] <Logi> HrdwrBoB: I installed K7 but yeah
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> and in some cases it's faster
[11:54] <darksoul> NoUse: but server only mode works...meh
[11:54] <NoUse> lightseek file a bug, feature request
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> Logi: K7 is the i386 distribution
[11:54] <jandusion> selinium, or something lie that
[11:54] <superbeast> Lodi, don't forget no 64 bit flash
[11:54] <NoUse> darksoul you don't have to listen to me, I'm just trying to help you
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> that's just the kernel
[11:54] <Stormx2> selinium: "Most systems newer than 3 years support DMA." - this box is made of old parts pre-dating the millenium.
[11:54] <Logi> superbeast: I don't care about flash...
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> and while you CAN get things working on an amd64 system
[11:54] <gnomefreak> gnome-ppp is avalible with sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp
[11:54] <darksoul> NoUse: i know, im going to try the breezy 64bit install see if that works
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> if you want nvidia drivers and java, go with i386
[11:54] <superbeast> logi, yeah but you need it for many sites
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> because the differences are minimal
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> I run i386 distro on my amd64
[11:54] <Glassius> what's the best way of having a partition span over several harddrives in ubuntu? raid, lvm, evms?
[11:55] <lightseek> gnomefreak, yeah but a new linux person wouldnt know how to connect to intenrt using modem without it in the first place
[11:55] <HrdwrBoB> but I run amd64 on my servers
[11:55] <Logi> superbeast: nah, those sites are rarely worth the time it takes to get past the flash
[11:55] <Stormx2> selinium: And another thing. it failed.
[11:55] <jandusion> selinium, what do i do when the donload is done...
[11:55] <selinium> jandusion, wow that is slow!   when you have got it type    sudo dpkg -i ~/skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu0_i386.deb
[11:55] <gnomefreak> lightseek,  good point ;)
[11:55] <lightseek> gnomefreak, its a catch 22, you need to connect to internet to download it
[11:55] <Stormx2> bimberi: And by the way, the cd wasn't in use. it hadn't been in use for about 16 hours.
[11:55] <Logi> HrdwrBoB: I'm not too bothered, but it still seems a little bit silly to have a 64 bit processor running in 32 bit mode
[11:55] <selinium> Stormx2, so you have a 52x cd drive with no dma support?
[11:55] <lightseek> gnomefreak, im very certain that Ubuntu will lose 1000's of new users because they dont have a dial up feature in menu like gnome-ppp
[11:56] <Stormx2> bimberi: Infact, i rebooted ubuntu during that period, and didn't even access the cd after that.
[11:56] <gnomefreak> ummmmm but if the person is in here more than likely their internet works
[11:56] <bimberi> Stormx2: k, 'twas just a thought
[11:56] <Stormx2> selinium: I thought it wasn't to do with the drive? ;-)
[11:56] <kemik_> dial-up still exists? ;)
[11:56] <lightseek> gnomefreak, Simply Mepis has it and thats why mepis is winning many new users that have modem
[11:56] <gnomefreak> lol kemik
[11:56] <Logi> ok, mp3 playing is up. Thanks a log guys/gals
[11:56] <Stormx2> bimberi: No prob :) Thanks anyway
[11:56] <lightseek> gnomefreak, imagine the amount of people that arent here that would be :P
[11:56] <Stormx2> selinium: let me pastebin the output
[11:56] <lightseek> Logi, how did you get ,mp3 to work?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> lightseek,  ubuntu is the fastest growing linux distro
[11:57] <lightseek> gnomefreak, it would be faster if it had modem support
[11:57] <Stormx2> selinium: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4593
[11:57] <selinium> Stormx2, both I beleive. :) My machine is a creaking Athlon900, top of the range when I bought it! Still has DMA
[11:57] <Logi> lightseek: enabled universe and multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list and installed gstreamer-plugins
[11:57] <NoUse> lightseek not much faster, they'd be downloaded it over modem after all
[11:57] <cyphase> does anyone know of any commercial DVD players for linux?
[11:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lightseek about mp3
[11:57] <selinium> Stormx2, looking
[11:57] <topyli> lightseek: in the network config capplet, there's an option to quickly configure a modem connection
[11:57] <SlitherX> hi, you know a graphic ssh client?
[11:57] <Logi> !tell lightseek about mp3
[11:57] <cyphase> i think PowerDVD works on linux..
[11:57] <cyphase> which i didn't know until about 2 minutes ago :)
[11:57] <Logi> bah, that bot is snotty
[11:57] <HrdwrBoB> cyphase: and it's utterly, utterly pointless
[11:58] <shadeofgrey> i am so pissed....  i tried to install Fediora Core4 64bit version on my second drive and when it finished itoverrote my GRUB data and made the system unbootable ... i had to totally reinstall ubuntu!
[11:58] <selinium> Stormx2, Have you tried switching it on?
[11:58] <lightseek> Logi, im installing xmms now, i think it installs everyyhng needed
[11:58] <HrdwrBoB> SlitherX: .. yes, run gnome-terminal
[11:58] <HrdwrBoB> ... run ssh in it
[11:58] <robotgeek> SlitherX: graphic ssh?
[11:58] <HrdwrBoB> ssh isn't a graphical thing
[11:58] <shadeofgrey> okay guys somebody please paste the link to the breezy sources.list file
[11:58] <Logi> lightseek: it might pull in the needed packages if you've enabled universe and multiverse
[11:58] <mindtzar> lightseek, you got mp3 working?
[11:58] <jandusion> selinium, ok i got it.... i need to go to bed now ill be online in about 17hours.... will you be online then??
[11:58] <Stormx2> selinium: No, was I supposed to?
[11:58] <selinium> jandusion, probably!
[11:58] <lightseek> NoUse,  do I have enabled universe and multiverse in sources list?
[11:58] <Stormx2> selinium: I just followed step #1
[11:58] <SlitherX> ok... (my english is not good)... i want to 'see' the files on the server
[11:58] <Logi> lightseek: but they're worried about patents and royalties so they don't (supposedly) have any mp3 support in canonical
[11:58] <selinium> Stormx2, yep      sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[11:58] <SlitherX> not only with commands
[11:59] <NoUse> lightseek yes
[11:59] <gnomefreak> shadeofgrey,  my list is at www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc  click on linux tab
[11:59] <cyphase> HrdwrBoB, i know, i was just curious because of question 7 at http://www.mpaa.org/Press/DVD_FAQ.htm
[11:59] <selinium> Stormx2, then folow step one again!
[11:59] <mindtzar> whats the sudo apt-get thing to get the gstreamer plugins?
[11:59] <HrdwrBoB> SlitherX: open a file window, file-> connect to server
[11:59] <HrdwrBoB> then select type ssh
[11:59] <jandusion> selnium, good... then ill ask you when i get home from school...
[11:59] <lightseek> mindtzar, no
[11:59] <HrdwrBoB> then put in all the information
[11:59] <Rawplayer> does anyone have a script to strip a unbuntu install down?
[11:59] <selinium> Stormx2, all step one does is tell you what you have switched on!
[11:59] <HrdwrBoB> and .. BAM, graphical ssh file browsing
[11:59] <Cyphase> hmm
[11:59] <Stormx2> selinium: Yeah, my concern is with the last line... whatever.
[12:00] <gnomefreak> Rawplayer, you can always do a server install


 https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/1171701586600615936
 great news, @RikMills ! Thanks for your part in making that happen
 @Valoriez, and our friends @ opensuse et al.
 @RikMills, 👍🏻💪🏻
[11:13] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
 https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-5.12.5-released
[14:30] <santa_> good afternoon everybody
[14:31] <santa_> RikMills: thanks for fw 5.62 packages, I have been doing test rebuilds with it and kaccounts-providers and krfb would fail to build
[14:31] <santa_> patches available in kubuntu_eoan_staging, the patches don't break the builds with 5.61
[14:40] <RikMills> santa_: ok, thanks. I'll look at those shortly and get them into the archive
[14:41] <santa_> thanks. they are like the previous batch of patches, just missing includes
[14:48] <RikMills> santa_: all done
[14:50] <santa_> RikMills: thank you very much
 Are there kio gdrive users? Is it broken at the moment?
[18:18] <mparillo> KDE-Neon shows a problem: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=309&t=160338&p=422061


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