[00:00] <Captainkrtek> Jasmin, well this is an Ubuntu issue
[00:00] <pmo5> commoncents, ifconfig wlan0
[00:00] <d484> aaron_c, you can send files to and from Dropbox however it all depends on if you can view the files on your iPhone.  I think it will all depend on what the iPhone allows
[00:00] <pmo5> commoncents, does it say it is up and running.. it has an IP or something ?
[00:00] <d484> aaron_c, You can send files from iPhone to the cloud, or pull files from the cloud into your iPhone.  from what I read on the site, you should be good.
[00:00] <Felnotz> joakimk: Well this might be an Ubuntu issue, if you can give me your computer model again, I can submit a bug report, unless anyone else knows what's up here?
 the issue is tht i was using ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop
[00:01] <reggie> which port uses program mail?
[00:01] <reggie> pls
[00:01] <commoncents> it doesnt have an ip just show hwaddr
[00:01] <joakimk> Felnotz: The computer is: HP nc6400, with VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M52 [Mobility Radeon X1300]
 and when i installed ubuntu 10.04 i couldn't detect the nework ,while i can see my work station from the windwos server
[00:02] <Felnotz> joakimk: Thank you! I'm sorry I couldn't solve your problem...
[00:02] <pmo5> commoncents, word UP matters morethen others
[00:02] <joakimk> Felnotz: I had this problem after installing 10.04: http://superuser.com/questions/168740/ubuntu-10-04-ati-mobility-radeon-x1300-screen-flickering-in-dark-areas
 still there???
[00:03] <mayo1> Hi. Why can I install xbmc ? I'm on ubuntu 11.04 and I tried to install it from http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/linux-distributions/linux-distributions4-ubuntu/1540-top-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal, with repository.
[00:03] <commoncents> said broadcast multicast
[00:03] <joakimk> Felnotz: which I "solved" (apparently) by creating the file /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf, containing the line "options radeon modeset=0"
[00:03] <Felnotz> joakimk: Did you try the solution on the site?
[00:03] <commoncents> said broadcast running multicast
[00:03] <codeshah> hey guys, I am sending emails from my server to my mailing list but some servers are saying there is no reverse dns
[00:03] <codeshah> how do I setup reverse dns?
[00:03] <joakimk> Felnotz: That file is still here, now. Do you think maybe I should remove it?
[00:04] <Felnotz> joakimk: You could definitely try that
[00:04] <joakimk> Felnotz: could be a conflict... perhaps :)
[00:04] <Felnotz> joakimk: I gotta run, so ask around for answers if that doesn't work
[00:04] <commoncents> sorry it said broadcast multicast
[00:04] <joakimk> Felnotz: right! Thanks a lot!
[00:04] <pmo5> commoncents, do you know what sort of adress class youuse or similar things ?
[00:04] <Felnotz> joakimk: No problem!
[00:05] <pmo5> commoncents, well first try to do .. ifconfig wlan0 up..
[00:05] <commoncents> i did eth0 and it said broadcast running multicast
[00:05] <commoncents> permission denied
[00:05] <pmo5> commoncents, the sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[00:05] <commoncents> i did
[00:05] <pmo5> commoncents, do you use lan too ?
[00:06] <pmo5> commoncents, still permiossion denied ?
[00:06] <mayo1> Hi. Why can I install xbmc ? I'm on ubuntu 11.04 and I tried to install it from http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/linux-distributions/linux-distributions4-ubuntu/1540-top-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal, with repository.
[00:06] <commoncents> yes it just show the prompt again for another command
[00:07] <mayo1> hmm maybe a pb woth my font
[00:08] <Glycan> Ahem.
[00:08] <pmo5> commoncents, now iwlist wlan0 scan
[00:08] <pmo5> commoncents, sudo may helps too
[00:09] <commoncents> i did sudo ifconfig wlan0 up and it took me to the prompt
[00:11] <pmo5> commoncents, now sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[00:11] <Jasmin> Can any one help me to configure the network under ubuntu 10.04
[00:12] <Jasmin> Felnotz> can you help me PLZ
[00:12] <owen1> tar -zcvf tmp/output.tar.gz input/ only works as root. with regular user i see 'tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors'. ls -l shows: drwxr-xr-x 2 user1 user1.  any clues?
[00:12] <klevi|PC> Quickie: Adding an authorized_key for passwdless login. is authorized_keys a directory? or a text file list of accepted keys
[00:13] <commoncents> said unknown host
[00:13] <pmo5> commoncents, now iwlist wlan0 scan
[00:13] <omac> my mouse scroll wheel died and I'm trying learn blender and it sucks without a scroll wheel.  The blender ui can't function without a scroll wheel.  if the blender ui had scroll bars everywhere it wouldn't be an issue, but that is not the case with the version that I want to use.
[00:13] <omac> as a result, I would like to ask the ubuntu community something.
[00:14] <commoncents> ok gave me a bouch of stuff
[00:14] <Jasmin> is it so hard to configure a network under  ubuntu  10.04
[00:14] <commoncents> id like to get the wifi and lan i use lan most though
[00:15] <omac> How can I map the multimedia keyboard's scroll wheel to not only map to volume up and down, but also emulate mouse scroll up/down if I press the shift key at the same time?
[00:15] <klevi|PC> omac: tried global shortcuts?
[00:15] <pmo5> commoncents, lan.. ifconfig eth0.. and give an IP.. if you dont have one.. if you have dhcp somewhere you could try run it
[00:16] <omac> I really don't want to go out and buy a mouse just because the mouse scroll wheel's mechanism is faulty now.
[00:16] <commoncents> i got internet youtube just loaded
[00:16] <Jasmin> how can we share the past
[00:16] <omac> global shortcuts...I'll check it out thanks.
[00:16] <klevi|PC> No prob =) <-- omac
[00:16] <commoncents> now lans working but will it still work after reset
[00:17] <Jasmin> helllllllllllo, any nework expert  arounnnnnnnnd
[00:18] <pmo5> commoncents, maybe you can set it up on /etc/network/interfaces.. i am not sure but i'll do this for debian
[00:18] <Captainkrtek> Jasmin, please refrain from repeating asking the same question, if someone can help they will
[00:18] <commoncents> got no idea
[00:19] <klevi|PC> Jasmin: Typically if no one answer then no one knows what to tell you. Thats how it is here.
[00:19] <Jasmin> thnks for the info
[00:20] <Henriquez> ok i have installed gnome 3/shell on ubuntu 11.04 but does anyone know a website for themes ?
[00:20] <Henriquez> i already downloaded some but is there a dedicated website?
[00:21] <Gskellig> gnome-look.org Henriquez
[00:21] <ira_gershwin> i'd imagine gnomeloook
[00:21] <rww> Henriquez: GNOME 3 isn't supported here.
[00:21] <pmo5> commoncents, you should have a look on /etc/network and see files over there if there is any..
[00:21] <rww> hence the PPA saying it's unsupported.
[00:21] <Gskellig> and art.gnome.org
[00:21] <Henriquez> ok thank you
[00:21] <Gskellig> and customize.org/gtk
[00:21] <commoncents> ok
[00:23] <commoncents> ok lan stayed working after reboot now to get wifi woking
[00:25] <pmo5> commoncents, iwconfig wlan0 essid "whateverssidthisis"
[00:26] <spacemagic> so.. just dual installed Windows 7 alongside my Ubuntu 10.10 and go to setup GRUB again from the live cd and sudo grub gets me :command not found
[00:26] <coldpizza72i> i just installed ubuntu on a drive but cant find the drive in my bios to fix the boot sequence.....is that because my bios will only show bootable drives? do i have to put a live cd up again and make it bootable?
[00:26] <commoncents> just go this message with lan cable unplugged http://www.pastebin.com/wWjBGC74
[00:26] <Raptors> Has anyone here successfully ran the 6670 with wine?
[00:26] <Raptors> How is it for gaming?
[00:27] <takoylis> any guru can help me with my tv tuner? cant see tv on my pc   :-(                         :-(
[00:27] <Raptors> Does it work as well as Nvidia with proprietary drivers?
[00:27] <roothorick> Raptors: wine has such a ridiculously high overhead that... take the system requirements, and scale it up three years.
[00:28] <pmo5> commoncents, yep it says commoncents.. unplugged lan cable
[00:28] <SHAD0Wmonkey> Hi, installed ubuntu on an sd card, grub comes up but it won't continue boot.  Any suggestions?
[00:28] <Raptors> roothorick, what do you mean?
[00:28] <SHAD0Wmonkey> (10.10.)
[00:29] <Raptors> I haven't had any probs running games on my 8600GT (which is trash)
[00:29] <roothorick> Raptors: which games?
[00:29] <Raptors> Is it just a AMD prob?
[00:29] <commoncents> ok i did what you said and it said essid unknown host
[00:29] <roothorick> Raptors: Wine can really only run older games effectively, and requires much bigger hardware than the game would if it was running on the intended OS
[00:29] <Raptors> Torchlight, SCII, Company of Heros (worse than windows but the only one I had this prob with), Counter strike...
[00:30] <Raptors> Half life 2
[00:30] <Raptors> It
[00:30] <Raptors> They are probably all worse than windows but I not by much
[00:30] <Reapu> hello i just updated to the new ubuntu and my  upper bar is way too dark that i cant see it, how do i resolve this?
[00:30] <roothorick> Raptors: I suppose "older" isn't the right word today, heh
[00:30] <Raptors> other than COH
[00:30] <Propel> you gonna get a 6670?
[00:30] <Raptors> SCII works fine
[00:30] <roothorick> Raptors: btw clarify "SC2", there's at least three different games that have that acronym
[00:31] <Raptors> IDK, I'm thinking about it
[00:31] <Raptors> Starcraft 2
[00:31] <Propel> you have money?
[00:31] <Propel> no offense
[00:31] <Raptors> ya
[00:31] <roothorick> Raptors: ah, that surprises me, but I never looked at the sysreqs
[00:31] <Propel> oh, i thought you were broke
[00:31] <Propel> lol
[00:31] <Raptors> Either that or the GTS 250 (which is worse)...
[00:31] <Raptors> but cheaper
[00:31] <Raptors> IDK if AMD works well in linux though, all I heard was horror stories
[00:32] <unu98> raptors:such as
[00:32] <roothorick> Raptors: AMD GPUs are VERY hit and miss in Linux. For one,  if you're building a crossfire rig, you're in for a world of hurt
[00:32] <Raptors> roothorick, it runs on low/mid but it works fine but that's because the 8600GT is terrible
[00:32] <Raptors> roothorick, no I'm thinking about 1 6670
[00:32] <SHAD0Wmonkey> Hi, installed 10.10 on an sd card, grub comes up but it won't continue boot (black screen).  LiveUSB boots fine.  Any suggestions?
[00:33] <roothorick> Raptors: but DRI radeon is improving dramatically. If the opensource driver does everything you want it to, it should be a good experience
[00:33] <Barzogh> raa mon chaton m'a fait flooder sur ot
[00:33] <Reapu> and for some reasons the upper menu of programs  that arent maximized appears in the upper bar of the screen as if it was maximize, seemingly seperated from the program
[00:33] <ezl> having trouble with curl -d
[00:33] <darkorical> 11.04 trying to play games in full screen always shuts off  2nd monitor is there any way to stop this
[00:33] <Raptors> roothorick, even 3D stuff?
[00:33] <Propel> rapators, how is the 8600GT for CSS?
[00:33] <ezl>  curl <IP_ADDRESS>:8888/trade -d product_id=62364564&buyorsell=buy&size=88&limit=1
[00:33] <roothorick> Raptors: take your chances on the 6670 if you want. But avoid fglrx. I'd prefer returning the card than trying your luck with fglrx.
[00:33] <Raptors> Propel, it's alright...
[00:33] <ezl> trying to make it pass all these parameters as POST, but only the first one is getting sent
[00:34] <ezl> (product_id)
[00:34] <ezl> is my syntax incorrect?
[00:34] <roothorick> Raptors: yeah, the driver in 2.6.39 is up to full OpenGL 2.1 support on hardware that supports it now
[00:34] <Raptors> roothorick, is it really better than the official drivers though?
[00:34] <roothorick> Raptors: you've never had an AMD card, have you?
[00:35] <roothorick> Raptors: fglrx (the "official" binary driver) is TERRIBLE
[00:35] <Raptors> No, I'm stayed away from them
[00:35] <roothorick> Raptors: it's so bad that AMD is phasing it out in favor of providing information and code to the DRI project
[00:35] <pmo5> commoncents, you need to know.. should know the ssid of your wlan router, or whatever access point you want to connect to
[00:35] <darkorical> How do I prevent my secondary monitor from getting disabled when I start a full screen game in 11.04
[00:35] <rww> on my card (HD3450), fglrx has somewhat better 3D acceleration and absolutely gorram terrible 2D acceleration. And it's crappy and non-free and doesn't play well with anything.
[00:35] <commoncents> i do i entered it
[00:36] <roothorick> Raptors: which is why the DRI radeon driver is improving so quickly -- because AMD is officially supporting it now
[00:36] <rww> I cheered when the 'radeon' driver became good enough for everyday use.
[00:36] <unu98> If a dns request gets passed to a Ubuntu 10.10 server and the server comes back saying that it can't reach the computer requesting the address what would be the likely cause/repair?
[00:36] <Raptors> Well that's good to know but I'm still somewhat scared to go with 6670 :|
[00:36] <roothorick> nvidia still loves their binary blobs, but they're really really good at binary blobs, so nobody complains
[00:36] <Reapu> hello
[00:37] <Raptors> Ya, I've had nothing but good exp with nvidia
[00:37]  * rww complains
[00:37] <roothorick> Raptors: if you have any doubt, pick up a GeForce. Even DRI radeon can't beat nV's binary blob drivers
[00:37]  * klevi|PC pokes roothorick any luck?
[00:37] <Glycan> I'm installing ubuntu, with the adavanced partitioning tool. What should Use as be?
[00:37] <unu98> ext4 glycan
[00:37] <roothorick> klevi|PC: I gave up :/ I think it's a BIOS limitation or a bad interaction between the BIOS and the videocard
[00:37] <Raptors> roothorick, What does the DIR radeon lack that the "nvidia blob" does?
[00:38] <Raptors> or is it just a performance thing?
[00:38] <SHAD0Wmonkey> Hi, installed 10.10 on an sd card, grub comes up but it won't continue boot (black screen).  LiveUSB boots fine.  Any suggestions?
[00:38] <roothorick> klevi|PC: the affected machine had the same problem resuming from suspend on Vista, so I gotta think it's something with the hardware
[00:38] <klevi|PC> roothorick: Any idea on my Sata drive issue?
[00:38] <Reapu> hello i just updated to the new ubuntu and my  upper menu bar is way too dark that i cant see it, how do i resolve this?
[00:38] <Reapu> and for some reasons the upper menu of programs  that arent maximized appears in the upper bar of the screen as if it was maximize, seemingly seperated from the program
[00:39] <roothorick> Raptors: the nV blob has full OpenGL support up to 3.x and possibly further (hardware permitting), better VDPAU/VA API support, a few other niceties
[00:39] <SHAD0Wmonkey> reapu: Try a different skin?
[00:39] <nit-wit> Glycan, do you mean mount?
[00:39] <Glycan> That to.
[00:39] <roothorick> Raptors: oh and nvidia-settings, nice enthusiast tweaking tool
[00:39] <Reapu> SHAD0Wmonkey, how?
[00:39] <igna_> Hi everybody. I am trying to connect my PC xubuntu with my laptop windows7 (who has internet) via wireless.
[00:39] <pmo5> commoncents, the issue should be about syntax..
[00:39] <Raptors> I think I'll go for the gts 250 for $69.99 (or some other nvidia card) than... Thanks
[00:39] <nit-wit> Glycan, mount a ?  which is root is needed are you seperating home with this install?
[00:40] <Raptors> It's really a shame that ATI drivers are so bad
[00:40] <nit-wit> *?=root
[00:40] <Glycan> ?
[00:40] <nit-wit> Glycan, sorry /  is root
[00:40] <Glycan> Okay..
[00:40] <rww> the Free Software radeon driver works better than the Free Software nvidia driver ;)
[00:40] <pmo5> commoncents, iwconfig wlan0 essid any
[00:40] <SHAD0Wmonkey> reapu: Under prefs I think, can't be sure cuz I can't boot ubuntu right now.
[00:40] <roothorick> Raptors: the story may change in a year or two -- AMD's transition from fglrx to supporting opensource drivers is ongoing
[00:40] <Reapu> i change it but its still too dark
[00:40] <Reapu> please help me
[00:40] <owen1> tar -zcvf tmp/output.tar.gz input/ only works as root. with regular user i see 'tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors'. ls -l shows: drwxr-xr-x 2 user1 user1.  any clues?
[00:41] <roothorick> Raptors: in other words, they're still cleaning up ATI's mess
[00:41] <Raptors> roothorick, I'll probably switch then. I'm a AMD fanboy
[00:41] <pmo5> commoncents, do you have wap / wep / wap2 or anything on your router.. new one. you just need to press button, to make it open / available for wifi cards
[00:41] <Raptors> in a year or 2
[00:41] <roothorick> Raptors: I like their CPUs :) never cared for Radeons though. I had oddball performance and artifacting issues even in win7 when I had a 4850
[00:41] <Reapu> dsple
[00:42] <Reapu> please help me
[00:42] <Reapu> the upper bar is way too dark i cant see anythinga
[00:42] <roothorick> Raptors: I'm almost strictly AMD CPU / nV GPU now. They play together suprisingly well.
[00:42] <nimbiotics> hello evry1, Does anyone know if its possible to convert efx files to something I can open with ubuntu??? TIA!!!
[00:42] <Reapu> and for some reason windows that arent maximized still have their upper menu appear as though they are maximized
[00:42] <roothorick> nimbiotics: what the heck is an efx file?
[00:42] <nit-wit> Reapu, is the bar completely black?
[00:42] <Reapu> nit-wit,  yes
[00:42] <klevi|PC> I was about to ask the same
[00:43] <xangua> Reapu: is called global menu
[00:43] <unu98> reapu sounds like 11.04
[00:43] <Reapu> yes
[00:43] <Reapu> 11
[00:43] <nimbiotics> roothorick: efx is an eFax file
[00:43] <nit-wit> Reapu, logout then back in there is a double bar at times if you mess with compiz
[00:43] <roothorick> nimbiotics: tried Document Viewer? Or maybe GIMP?
[00:43] <Reapu> i messed with compiz
[00:43] <Reapu> how do i reset it
[00:43] <qin> owen1: It can somthing to do with permission of input, or .tar itself, copy to ~
[00:43] <nimbiotics> roothorick: will try gimp
[00:44] <nit-wit> Reapu, logout then back in it will  be fixed
[00:44] <Raptors> roothorick, ya, I'm the same way... at least for now...
[00:44] <Reapu> but it was still too dark when it was visible
[00:44] <Reapu> is there a way to make it brighter?
[00:44] <roothorick> nimbiotics: alternately, you could use the official eFax stuff via Wine to export a TIFF or PDF
[00:44] <roothorick> Raptors: I've been strongly partial to nVIDIA since the fall of 3dfx... die-hard fan :)
[00:45] <darkorical> Im on 11.04 and  trying to play games in full screen mode. when I do it always shuts off my  2nd monitor is there any way to stop this? I would prefer to have my web browser up on the other monitor
[00:45] <unu98> darkorical: have you tried windowed mode?
[00:45] <roothorick> darkorical: it's a game-specific thing unfortunately. Sometimes you can work around it by making the second monitor its own screen but sometimes it gets blanked anyway
[00:45] <Reapu> ok its not dark anymore
[00:45] <Reapu> but where did the menus go?
[00:46] <Reapu> also why are xchats menus part of the upper menu ??
[00:46] <roothorick> darkorical: and the separate screen workaround has its own limitations, namely you can't move windows between screens
[00:46] <unu98> click the desktop it will show
[00:46] <unu98> reapu^^
[00:46] <Reapu> yes
[00:46] <Reapu> but if i dont have it maximized
[00:47] <Reapu> the menu is still ontop
[00:47] <commodore64th> I'm having some trouble connecting a Linux device to my Ubuntu laptop via USB networking. A USB0 interface shows up and my network manager tries to connect, but it fails and I get a notification that it has disconnected.
[00:47] <Reapu> and i want it to be with the window itself
[00:47] <CheckMate7> what is this about " ##linux :Cannot send to channel" ?
[00:47] <nimbiotics> roothorick: nor gimp or document viewer works and I've read the software wont work w/wine
[00:47] <unu98> reapu: thats 11.04
[00:47] <roothorick> nimbiotics: read... did you actually try it?
[00:47] <Reapu> hmm
[00:47] <Reapu> what else is new here?
[00:47] <xangua> !classic
[00:47] <xangua> Reapu: you talk as if all ubuntu were your issue, if youdon't know how to use !unity you can still use !classic desktop
[00:47] <roothorick> nimbiotics: on a side note, is there a web interface you could poke around at, to see if you can extract a TIFF or PDF out of it?
[00:47] <bazhang> CheckMate7, ask in #freenode
[00:47] <Reapu> xangua, this is 'all ubuntu'?
[00:48] <Reapu> the menubar thing
[00:48] <Reapu> i dont think so
[00:48] <Reapu> i like the new upper menu
[00:48] <Reapu> i mean side menu
[00:49] <Reapu> but where is the under bar of all open programs?
[00:49] <nit-wit> Reapu, how long have you had this installed
[00:49] <unu98> Reapu: on the side see the arrows?
[00:49] <commodore64th> I'm having some trouble connecting a Linux device to my Ubuntu laptop via USB networking. A USB0 interface shows up and my network manager tries to connect, but it fails and I get a notification that it has disconnected. This also happens when I try to connect my laptop to the internet via an ethernet cable.
[00:49] <Reapu> unu98, what arrows
[00:49] <Reapu> nit-wit, just now
[00:50] <nit-wit> Reapu, do us a favor and find some of this yourself, we want to help but your taking over the channel with questions that are you to discover.:)
[00:50] <unu98> reapu: as to he other question if you minimize a program your menus will reappear again if you click the desktop
[00:50] <Reapu> ok just how do i get the under bar back again
[00:51] <xangua> Reapu: you can find a guide to use unity on the omg!ubuntu! blog
[00:51] <unu98> reapu: i installed cairo
[00:51] <Reapu> oo
[00:51] <Reapu> the side menu is instead of the down bar?
[00:51] <Reapu> i see
[00:51] <Reapu> nice
[00:51] <unu98> yup bingo!
[00:52] <Reapu> what is cairo
[00:52] <nimbiotics> roothorick: tried that too, bu the only choice is efx, unless I have 'premium' account, which is not my case. THX anyways!
[00:52] <bazhang> !enter | Reapu
[00:52] <bazhang> Reapu, its a dock
[00:52] <commodore64th> here's my ifconfig -a: http://pastebin.com/j4V0iJzg
[00:52] <pmo5> is true Reapu is feeling my whole screen, just like if there is nobody else, not very nice for others
[00:52] <pmo5> feeling / filling
[00:52] <unu98> Reapu: looks like a mac but runs like linux and gives a little more of an HUD for using Unity
[00:53] <unu98> another menu bar
[00:53] <nit-wit> Reapu, here is alink that was suggested.;)   http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/tag/natty/
[00:53] <Reapu> thanks guys
[00:54] <pmo5> i will start to chop all my programs before line 2806
[00:55] <Raptors> roothorick, can you do phyx (or whatever) under linux?
[00:55] <nit-wit> Reapu, if you want a link to get the cube set up this works but foolow the directions.   http://reformedmusings.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/howto-get-the-compiz-desktop-cube-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-and-unity/
[00:55] <owen1> qin: what should i do with the tar? copy it where?
[00:55] <nit-wit> *follow
[00:55] <Raptors> and can I  dedicate my 8600GT to phyx without having SLI support? (I'm guessing not)
[00:56] <roothorick> Raptors: hardware accelerated no. the DLLs work in Wine but they can't access the GPU
[00:56] <pmo5> Raptors, i suppose not.. 3D sounds seldom to.. then phyX..
[00:56] <eLiam> I've configured eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces to be manual but it keeps getting assigned an ip via dhcp.  What gives?  Is there another place I need to change?
[00:56] <roothorick> Raptors: so PhysX games work but won't be hardware accelerated for physics
[00:56] <maylow> hello
[00:56] <Raptors> roothorick, why can't they access the GPU? O_o
[00:57] <Raptors> Does wine not support it?
[00:57] <Reapu> can i get it with software center?
[00:57] <roothorick> Raptors: because they normally access the GPU through the Windows nV driver. The Linux driver has a completely different userspace->kernelspace paradigm that's incompatible
[00:57] <maylow> can I ask a probably lame question about ubuntu and KDE?
[00:57] <pmo5> roothorick, linux preferred to play slowly..
[00:57] <rww> maylow: you can
[00:57] <roothorick> Raptors: OpenGL works because they're talking first to userspace anyway
[00:57] <Gskellig> I can't get rc.local to work right
[00:58] <peterhil> The new Ubuntu GUI environment is really nice, things are really well thought out! I used to use Kubuntu, but I just tried 11.04 and the KDE4 is full of bugs...
[00:58] <maylow> after playing around with some install/deinstall of ubuntu software, krusader stopper working
[00:58] <maylow> 10x rww
[00:58] <roothorick> Raptors: and Direct3D? Emulated using OpenGL. Which is why OGL games are 300x faster than D3D games
[00:58] <maylow> i.e. it works,  but I can launch it only from console with gksudo krusader
[00:59] <maylow> I have no idea how to diagnose that
[00:59] <maylow> Im pretty new to ubuntu...
[01:00] <Raptors> roothorick, what happens if you do that and the game doesn't support OpenGL?
[01:00] <eLiam> oh, and this relates to bonding, so basically, bond0 only works if I take down eth0 (due to random eth0 dhcp even though it's set to manual!?).  Anyone?
[01:00] <fun-workin> hi, i have problem with installation of ubuntu, I made bootable USB with ubunu. I turn on my computer i select to boot from USB, menu appears and i choose to try ubuntu before install. The only thing happens is that menu is going back to 'begining' and it count down to 'default choose' i can leave computer for 15 min like this and nothing happnes. It keeps reseting countdown to default pick which is "try ubuntu". Any ideas how to make i
[01:00] <pmo5> not easy to make a windows game to work on linux.. did   i say nightmare, but i may think of it, that way
[01:01] <pmo5> fun-workin, seems it is not..  bootable
[01:02] <fun-workin> pmo 5: its working on other computer ;/
[01:02] <maylow> does anyone have any idea?
[01:03] <bazhang> maylow, you need to give much more detail
[01:03] <pmo5> fun-workin, hmm.. good point.. do they both understand partition type
[01:03] <bazhang> maylow, what precisely was installed/removed
[01:03] <maylow> that's ok, but what kind of detail :)
[01:03] <maylow> that's a tricky question
[01:04] <maylow> many things
[01:04] <maylow> from the repository
[01:04] <maylow> is there a way to check some history?
[01:04] <fun-workin> pmo5, what do you mean by this ? USB is formated to fat32
[01:04] <bazhang> maylow, try to install kubuntu-desktop, see if that gives back the needed
[01:04] <pmo5> fun-workin, i meant fat32 or something else :)
[01:05] <eLiam> ok, I guess no one else tried getting this working! :-/  never mind then, I'll try kicking udev for a while....
[01:05] <nit-wit> fun-workin, are you using unetbootin and is it the latest build of it from their site, or the ubuntu ppa?
[01:05] <pmo5> eLiam, bond ?
[01:06] <zetheroo> Spindle Servo Error ... again! Seems to happen after a kernel update ... it's NOT a hardware fault ... so why are the updates breaking my burning capabilities!?
[01:06] <pmo5> eLiam, i don't know exactly what you are about ?
[01:06] <bazhang> nit-wit, ppa? unetbootin is in the repos
[01:06] <maylow> bazhang, will this replace the current unity desktop?
[01:06] <bazhang> maylow, you said you were using krusader, did you not also have kubuntu installed on there?
[01:06] <eLiam> pmo5: that's the one.  eth0 is convinced it wants to be dhcp, even though I've setup /etc/network/interfaces to manual.
[01:06] <Glycan> !
[01:07] <edbian> eLiam, Can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces??
[01:07] <nit-wit> bazhang, yes I know if you go to the unetbootin site and click on the ubuntu choice it sends ytou to a ppa.
[01:07] <fun-workin> nit-wit, no, i used Universal USB Installer, used link from ubuntu site
[01:07] <maylow> bazhang, no, it's ubuntu unity
[01:07] <alexty> right so i have managed to do a deep scan on my hard drive and find where my boot partition is how would i transfer the memory address from testdisk to make a new partition table?
[01:07] <nit-wit> fun-workin, try unetbootin
[01:07] <maylow> bazhang, i just loved krusader and installed it
[01:07] <bazhang> nit-wit, there's no need for that as unetbootin is in the repos, ie not a PPA
[01:07] <maylow> bazhang, and it ran/runs well
[01:07] <fun-workin> nit-wit, tried it, same result ;/
[01:07] <maylow> bazhang, only now it can be run only with gksudo
[01:08] <pmo5> eLiam, dhcp.. some utility do convince it to do so
[01:08] <nit-wit> bazhang, yes mr emminence.;)
[01:08] <maylow> bazhang, else it hangs and can be stopped from the system monitor
[01:08] <fun-workin> nit-wit, by same result i mean i can get to menu on usb pick one option and than nothing happens, also the same usb working on other pc
[01:08] <pmo5> eLiam, you should have a look on /var/log/daemon .. to check out.. what sort of tools may have been triggered
[01:08] <bazhang> maylow, were you running krusader as root before? and if so, why
[01:08] <maylow> bazhang, no, i didn't
[01:09] <maylow> bazhang, at least not explicitly
[01:09] <bazhang> maylow, try running it from terminal see what the errors are
[01:09] <edbian> What is the name of the package that provides the battery indicator applet in the unity panel?  I want to report a bug for it.
[01:09] <script> everytime I use firefox I always see the bookmarks toolbar on, and I have to click it off, everytime, always, why does that happen?
[01:09] <maylow> bazhang, no errors, just one warning
[01:09] <nit-wit> fun-workin, I guess if it was me I would try another thumb since it seems this one is not working, another loader or a cd.
[01:09] <maylow> bazhang, which I found in forums
[01:10] <maylow> bazhang, and mainly in the context of "how can i suppress it"
[01:10] <eLiam> edbian: http://pastebin.com/akcijype
[01:10] <fun-workin> nit-wit, by loader you mean other program that will make bootable USB, right ?
[01:11] <maylow> bazhang, KGlobal::locale::Warning your global KLocale is being recreated with a valid main component instead of a fake component, this usually means you tried to call i18n related functions before your main component was created. You should not do that since it most likely will not work
[01:11] <edbian> eLiam, I think you want iface eth0 inet static    I don't think manual is a keyword.  At least I've never seen it before
[01:11] <alexty> is there any way to get all files in a certain folder to be moved to a different folder as soon as they can?
[01:11] <bazhang> maylow, and what were you trying to do, that started all this? try purging krusader then reinstalling it
[01:12] <maylow> bazhang, already did this, also reinstalld kde runtime components
[01:12] <nit-wit> yes there are others look at pendrive linux, as one alternative. The key here is if your not getting ones to work is maybe reformatting the fat32 each time you try just to knlck out that varuable.
[01:12] <edbian> alexty, Are the target files scattered around in different folders?  I don't understand what you're trying to do
[01:12] <bazhang> maylow, manually? or they were pulled in
[01:12] <nit-wit> *knock
[01:13] <fun-workin> ok  thanks ill try other loaders.
[01:13] <eLiam> edbian:  From the man...    The manual Method
[01:13] <eLiam>        This method may be used to define interfaces for which no configuration is done by default. Such interfaces can be config‐
[01:13] <edbian> alexty, thanks
[01:13] <eLiam>        ured manually by means of up and down commands or /etc/network/if-*.d scripts.
[01:13] <maylow> bazhang, uninstalled from the software center and then installed again
[01:13] <roothorick> Raptors: whatever API the game uses is emulated, generally via OpenGL "wrappers"
[01:13] <bazhang> maylow, no, the kde runtime components
[01:13] <edbian> eLiam, perhaps I'm wrong.  Have you done sudo service networking restart
[01:13] <alexty> right i'm using testdisk to back up a hard drive with messed up partition tables and it will only back it up into the ubuntu folder which doesn't have as much space as i need so i want to move it to my external hard drive
[01:14] <eLiam> edbian: yes, a few times.  Each time I need to disable eth0 (ifconfig eth0 down) due to the conflicting routes it creates.
[01:14] <maylow> bazhang, also from the software center, at least reinstalled something that stated to be the runtime components
[01:14] <alexty> or a way to get testdisk to use a different folder
[01:14] <edbian> alexty, What format is the partition on the external hdd ?
[01:14] <alexty> ntfs
[01:14] <edbian> eLiam, I don't know.  I've never done a manual interface before
[01:14] <bazhang> maylow, from the description krusader seems to be like mc
[01:15] <eLiam> edbian: it really looks like eth0 just loves the dhcp.  I'll have a go with static and see if I can trick it.  Thanks.
[01:15] <roothorick> Raptors: for hardware acceleration, on Linux, unless it's video decoding, you generally have to shunt everything through OpenGL via wrappers and translation layers. Which, Wine does pretty much exactly that.
[01:15] <edbian> eLiam, sure
[01:15] <alexty> edbian, ntfs
[01:15] <edbian> alexty, I've never used testdisk before.  Sorry
[01:15] <alexty> no worries
[01:15] <edbian> alexty, fat32
[01:15] <Yoshie> Does the ATI XFX HD 6750 work on ubuntu ?
[01:15] <eLiam> edbian bah, back to the man.  Static requires an address.  This isn't correct for bonded interfaces. :-/
[01:15] <pmo5> eLiam, you shouldn't have something like "auto .. eth0".. in your interfaces file
[01:15] <maylow> bazhang, the package reinstalled is nepomuk backup
[01:16] <maylow> bazhang, yes, it's a dual panel file commander
[01:16] <edbian> eLiam, Sorry!  Wish i could help :(
[01:16] <eLiam> edbian no worries :-)
[01:16] <Glycan> How should I assign swamp space?
[01:16] <Glycan> swap space*
[01:16] <Glycan> And what is it, exactly?
[01:16] <eLiam> pmo5: I don't.  http://pastebin.com/akcijype
[01:16] <edbian> Glycan, What do you mean 'assign'  ?
[01:16] <maylow> bazhang, i tried the gnome commander but does not suit my needs
[01:16] <bazhang> maylow, no idea about what you may or may not have installed to get in this state, and the warning is not terribly informative
[01:16] <Glycan> And how big..?
[01:16] <Glycan> In the installer
[01:17] <Glycan> Advanced partiton tool thigy
[01:17] <edbian> Glycan, Usually 2 times you ram or 2Gb whatever is smaller
[01:17] <Glycan> And what type is it?
[01:17] <maylow> bazhang, what I'd love to do is to learn some way to diagnose the problem
[01:17] <Glycan> ????
[01:17] <edbian> Glycan, It's type is swap  :)
[01:17] <bazhang> Glycan, advanced, you choose
[01:17] <pmo5> eLiam, i use the word static not "manual"
[01:17] <maylow> bazhang, i simply don't know where to look for any traces
[01:17] <Glycan> As in, primart, logical
[01:17] <Glycan> mrimary*
[01:17] <maylow> bazhang, how to see some kind of error
[01:17] <edbian> Glycan, It can be either primary or logical
[01:17] <eLiam> pmo5, what address do you use for the bond slaves?
[01:17] <bazhang> maylow, nor do I, given what we have to work with.
[01:18] <Glycan> (And I asuume the main partion should be primary?)
[01:18] <Glycan> What's the diffrence?
[01:18] <maylow> bazhang, i guess it's some kind of permission/privilege problem
[01:18] <edbian> Glycan, You can place logical partitions inside and extended partition
[01:18] <pmo5> eLiam, actually i dont use bond.. what do you use it for ?
[01:18] <Glycan> What?
[01:18] <Glycan> I don't understand.
[01:18] <maylow> bazhang, maybe some installation i made changed the permission of some file or directory
[01:19] <eLiam> pmo5, load balancing multiple interfaces (2 in this case)
[01:19] <edbian> Glycan, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[01:19] <edbian> Glycan, You are only allowed 4 primary partitions on a hdd because of the way they're designed.  To get around this extended / logical partitions were created.
[01:19] <edbian> Glycan, Read the wiki :D
[01:20] <pmo5> eLiam, there is plenty of tools.. ifenslave and such
[01:20] <alexty> anyone know a thing or two about partition tables?
[01:20] <edbian> alexty, I do
[01:20] <Jordan_U> !anyone | alexty
[01:20] <edbian> Jordan_U,   so does wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[01:20] <commodore64th> Can anyone help me with my Ethernet adaptor? I can't connect to my network or the internet.
[01:20] <plov> hey guys installing ubuntu here, i didn't miss anything did i? seems there's no options for a custom install, where you can choose packages you want or don't want?
[01:21] <eLiam> pmo5, ifenslave is bonding... So, with ifenslave you'd setup a bonded interface for the slaves and the slave interfaces are setup as manual!
[01:21] <alexty> ubottu, because when i do i get ignored so i was trying a different tactic but fair enough
[01:21] <alexty> damn it ubottu
[01:21] <edbian> hahaha
[01:21] <alexty> well now i feel like an idiot
[01:22] <eLiam> commodore64th: Any more clues?
[01:22] <alexty> does anyone know how to manually create a partition table?
[01:22] <Jordan_U> alexty: It's not that you were ignored, it's that if nobody knows the answer then nobody will answer.
[01:22] <commodore64th> When i connect my cable, network manager tries to connect, but after a while, I get a notification that my wired connection is disconnected.
[01:22] <pmo5> eLiam, http://pastebin.com/jtHm62iL
[01:22] <Jordan_U> alexty: Define "manually", and what is your end goal?
[01:23] <edbian> alexty, I do.  Use gparted
[01:23] <commodore64th> my ifconfig -a: http://pastebin.com/j4V0iJzg
[01:23] <plov> hey guys installing ubuntu here, i didn't miss anything did i? seems there's no options for a custom install, where you can choose packages you want or don't want?
[01:23] <edbian> plov, I don't think Ubuntu lets you do that.
[01:23] <edbian> plov, I could be wrong.
[01:24] <pmo5> pmo5, that's what i did, when i was about this.. but i don't use it actually and i suppose it may not work, but that's where i was, when i tought of making such a move / bond..
[01:24] <alexty> because i would like to :)
[01:24] <eLiam> pmo5, so you just leave out the definition for eth0 wlan1?  Rather than define as manual?
[01:25] <edbian> alexty, Use gparted.
[01:25] <commodore64th> eLiam: my wired connection used to work before I upgraded from Netbook 10.10 to 11.04.
[01:25] <pmo5> eLiam, that is just a label for "network" configuration.. you can make use of whatever you want, hence i name it bond0
[01:26] <eLiam> pmo5, up ifenslave-2.6 bond0 eth0 wlan1.  Where do you definate eth0 and wlan1, or don't you?
[01:26] <eLiam> pmo5, *define
[01:26] <alexty> does anyone know how to manually create a partition table?
[01:26] <edbian> alexty, What do you mean by manually?
[01:26] <pmo5> eLiam, i dont..
[01:27] <edbian> alexty, You could use fdisk I believe.  I've never done that though.
[01:27] <AbTuX> plov, no with Ubuntu you do not have such an option
[01:27] <commodore64th> also, I'm using DHCP.
[01:27] <eLiam> alexty, with a hex editor?
[01:27] <pmo5> eLiam, i don't, because both interfaces are supposed to be enslaved.. bonding modules, has to choose the correct one..
[01:28] <eLiam> pmo5, ahhh...so, I'll try again, without defining eth0 and eth1...might drop offline here!
[01:29] <eLiam> commodore64th, silly question but, tried another cable?
[01:29] <pmo5> eLiam, this "script".. would work i think with ethernet.. connections.. but the way i did with wlan.. it didn't there is an issue with wpa.. which make it, not to work as expected
[01:29] <maylow> bazhang, I found a log of all installations
[01:30] <eLiam> pmo5, ok.  I'm just trying ethernet at the moment.  Looks like fun to try wireless too!
[01:30] <pmo5> eLiam, ethernet would work afaik.. with wifi, bonding couldn't figure out.. (mode backup).. when line was drop or not
[01:31] <maylow> bazhang, last and only manual installations before the problem appeared are: menu (2.1.44ubuntu1) - install and deinstall; ktsuss - install; wmdrawer (0.10.5-1.1) - install and deinstall
[01:32] <eLiam> pmo5, same issue.  dhcp looks to be running for eth0 even though eth0 is now not even defined in interfaces file.
[01:32] <pmo5> eLiam, dhcp ???
[01:33] <eLiam> pmo5, yes, like dhclient or something.
[01:33] <edbian> pmo5, He means the dhcp client on the machine that runs
[01:33] <pmo5> dhcp replies to addresses like <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:33] <maylow> is there somebody else, who would try to help diagnosting the problem?
[01:33] <edbian> pmo5, The server does.
[01:33] <eLiam> pmo5, the config parameter in the interfaces file is called 'dhcp' which means the connection should use dhclient and request an ip address from the dhcp server.
[01:34] <eLiam> pmo5, but I don't have this defined, so it shouldn't be happening.  never mind!  back to the drawing board.
[01:34] <maylow> i really can't stand not knowing what's going on/wrong
[01:34] <edbian> maylow, what's the issue?  Maybe I can shed some light
[01:35] <pmo5> eLiam, yes, hence that is normal..
[01:35] <maylow> edbian, hello :)
[01:35] <edbian> maylow, hi
[01:35] <edbian> pmo5, He shouldn't have an eth0
[01:35] <edbian> pmo5, Cause he did not define it in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:35] <maylow> edbian, at some point the krusader stopped running under my ubuntu unity desktop without gsudo infront of it
[01:35] <edbian> eLiam, sorry to interrupt!
[01:35] <eLiam> pmo5, no?  eth0 shouldn't exist, as it's not defined.  It definitely shouldn't be using dhcp!
[01:35] <pmo5> edbian, yes.. i see i had similar issue.. but it didnt bother me much at the time
[01:35] <eLiam> edbain, no probs :-)
[01:36] <edbian> maylow, when you run it in terminal without gksudo  what happens?  Errors?
[01:36] <maylow> edbian, it runs, the HDD indicates activity on run
[01:36] <edbian> maylow, So... what is the issue?
[01:36] <maylow> edbian, but no UI appears
[01:36] <maylow> edbian, and i have to edn it from the system monitor
[01:37] <pmo5> eLiam, he may get it from previous setup
[01:37] <edbian> maylow, does the terminal go back to a prompt indicating it crashed?
[01:37] <pmo5> eLiam, you could try with <IP_ADDRESS> instead of "manual"
[01:37] <maylow> edbian, the only message after a console run is: KGlobal::locale::Warning your global KLocale is being recreated with a valid main component instead of a fake component, this usually means you tried to call i18n related functions before your main component was created. You should not do that since it most likely will not work
[01:37] <edbian> maylow, I'm guessing one of two things.  1st the folder it's trying to view is not viewable due to strange permissions
[01:37] <sterling-admin> Hello all, I am running ubuntu 11.04 and am trying to edit etc/rc.local however it is saying that I am not the root user, how do I log in as a root user?
[01:37] <eLiam> pmo5, worth a go
[01:38] <julian_c> !sudo | sterling-admin
[01:38] <edbian> maylow, My second idea is that the theme you're using has a bug that causes the GUI component of krusader to crash but not the process.    running as root means it'll use a different theme
[01:38] <roothorick> xrandr won't change resolutions for me, it just says "configure crtc 0 failed", even on resolutions that are already in there
[01:39] <edbian> maylow, Based on that error I would say that the source code for krusador is written wrong and that is why it is crashing.
[01:39] <maylow> edbian, whe i end the process, the console prints Signal: 15
[01:39] <maylow> and goes to prompt
[01:39] <edbian> maylow, mmmm
[01:39] <sterling-admin> so what commands would i use to edit the program?
[01:39] <maylow> edbian, it worked perfectly 10 hours ago
[01:39] <edbian> maylow, Before updates and such?
[01:39] <pmo5> sterling-admin, sudo su
[01:40] <maylow> edbian, it'something i/some software did that messed upe sth
[01:40] <Yoshie> Does the ATI XFX HD 6750 work on ubuntu ?
[01:40] <maylow> edbian, before several manual installations
[01:40] <eLiam> pmo5, ok, set to static and it still didn't work.  this is bonkers so going offline to try again...like you said, maybe it's cached or something....
[01:41] <edbian> maylow, can you run krusador /     ?
[01:41] <maylow> edbian, that i didnt think of
[01:41] <edbian> maylow, that should make it open up viewing /  instead of /home/maylow
[01:41] <maylow> edbian, going to try
[01:41] <edbian> maylow, sure
[01:41] <Yoshie> Does the ATI XFX HD 6750 work on ubuntu ?
[01:43] <edbian> maylow, signal 15 is the signal sent to the process by the OS that says 'stop running now'
[01:43] <edbian> maylow, So that's what signal 15 is
[01:43] <pmo5> 15 ~ <Ctrl> <C>
[01:44] <jflash> Hello....
[01:44] <maylow> edbian, which is ok, because that's what i'm doing with it :)
[01:44] <edbian> maylow, yes
[01:44] <Yoshie> Does the ATI Radeon XFX HD 6750 work on ubuntu 11.04 ?
[01:45] <SP_0taku> Hello I'm having trouble getting incron to work, I found this pastebin with the exact same error I get, can anyone help. http://pastebin.com/kNiXmvYB
[01:45] <edbian> maylow, Here's an explanation of that error:  http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=93738
[01:45] <jflash> anyone here maybe able to help me with ubuntu..I am a newbie, and not highly computer literate....?
[01:45] <roothorick> Yoshie: mostly
[01:45] <edbian> maylow, So that rules that out as being helpful.  Back to my original ideas.  Did it open if you pass it /   ?
[01:45] <maylow> edbian, i just notied that the half-running instance of krusader takes only 9Mb of ram and the fully functional : 35
[01:45] <Yoshie> roothorick: ok is there prop drivers for it?
[01:45] <Skaperen> jflash: do you have a real question?
[01:45] <roothorick> Yoshie: use DRI radeon, not fglrx. Make sure you install the 2.6.39 kernel
[01:45] <jflash> yes
[01:46] <edbian> maylow, That makes sense.  The gui takes up ram
[01:46] <Skaperen> jflash: what keeps you from asking it?
[01:46] <edbian> maylow, Does it run if you run krusador /  ?
[01:46] <maylow> edbian, no it didn't
[01:46] <edbian> maylow, Try changing your theme
[01:46] <roothorick> Yoshie: you'll still be missing OpenGL 3.x and VDPAU/VA API but it'll be quite nice for regular desktop use and older games
[01:46] <maylow> edbian, the theme of the desktop?
[01:46] <roothorick> Yoshie: only get one though. Crossfire isn't supported.
[01:47] <Trfsrfr> hello all. not sure if im in the right place, but im a linux noob and need help setting up dual monitors and sound
[01:47] <pmo5> SP_0taku, apt-cache search Zend
[01:47] <edbian> maylow, The 'controls'
[01:47] <ShermanBoyd> I'm trying to install openstack compute on natty, when I apt-get install nova-compute it stalls out on "0% [Waiting for headers]"
[01:47] <jflash> when I leave my computer idle for a very short length of time the screen dims...frequently....where can i adjust this. I have been to the power setting and that didn't seem to affect it?
[01:47] <roothorick> jflash: Screensaver
[01:47] <roothorick> jflash: power settings are just for the DPMS shutoff
[01:47] <jflash> screensaver?
[01:47] <julian_c> sterling-admin: You might do "sudo nano /etc/rc.local"
[01:47] <Blackadder> can I run a shortcut under crontab
[01:47] <pmo5> jflash, coudl be part of your BIOS setup too
[01:48] <maylow> edbian, right away, although it's the original one, i didn't touch anything there
[01:48] <edbian> maylow, control center -> appearance -> theme  (optionally -> custom -> controls)
[01:48] <edbian> maylow, that isn't different?
[01:48] <roothorick> jflash: System Settings -> Personal -> Screensaver
[01:48] <Blackadder> or do I need to put in the absoloute path of the script
[01:48] <edbian> maylow, Are you using kde or gnome?
[01:48] <jflash> this didn't happen until i upgraded to 11.04
[01:48] <Skaperen> jflash: I'd check the screensaver setting first
[01:48] <pmo5> jflash, settings / power related
[01:48] <roothorick> jflash: "Regard the computer as idle after" slider
[01:48] <edbian> maylow, krusador is a kde app which means it is probably using qt not gtk
[01:48] <maylow> gnome i guess - the ubuntu 11.04 default shell
[01:48] <roothorick> jflash: you can turn it off completely there too
[01:48] <jflash> ...going to look at the screensaver...ty
[01:48] <maylow> edbian,  gnome i guess - the ubuntu 11.04 default shell
[01:48] <edbian> maylow, that's gtk (gnome)
[01:49] <edbian> maylow, this is gonna sound dumb, you're restarted?
[01:49] <roothorick> maylow: Unity, actually. 11.04 made Unity the default
[01:49] <maylow> edbian, many times :)
[01:49] <Trfsrfr> hello all. not sure if im in the right place, but im a linux noob and need help setting up dual monitors and sound
[01:49] <maylow> edbian, i come form windows, restart is what i try first
[01:50] <edbian> maylow, :D
[01:50] <edbian> maylow, got to go!
[01:50] <Blackadder> I have created shortcuts under root to run scripts manually can I use the  crontab to run shortcuts
[01:50] <maylow> edbian, ok, 10x for your time
[01:50] <pmo5> got to go too.. too late in here..
[01:50] <maylow> roothorick, isn't unity gtk based?
[01:51] <maylow> roothorick, or it's sth completely new
[01:51] <pmo5> Blackadder, yes as long as X is open and running.. and similar things.. i guess it could work
[01:51] <jflash> ty roothorick...it was set @5 minutes
[01:51] <Blackadder> I do not use X
[01:51] <Blackadder> I run server in terminal or SSH
[01:52] <pmo5> Blackadder, cron is about running scripts.. and it records all variable to replay your script with similar variables..
[01:52] <Blackadder> yes I understand that
[01:53] <pmo5> Blackadder, server in terminal.. well as long as your script.. knows all that.. it may work.. you may try it on console.. first
[01:53] <Blackadder> crontab - e 15,30,45,59****
[01:53] <pmo5> Blackadder, or with "at"
[01:53] <Trfsrfr> can anybody here direct me to somewhere I can get some rookie help? ubuntu-beginners is empty.
[01:53] <Blackadder> to run every 15 minutes
[01:53] <Nintet> anyone here know about clustering?
[01:53] <Jordan_U> Trfsrfr: If you're using Ubuntu then yes, this is the place to be. For dual monitors have you tried using "Monitors" in System Settings?
[01:54] <Blackadder> my shortcut under root is .lstart
[01:54] <Out_Cold> Trfsrfr: don't ask to ask... just ask
[01:54] <Blackadder> ./start
[01:54] <pmo5> Blackadder, */15
[01:54] <Trfsrfr> jordan, I have yes.
[01:54] <Trfsrfr> thanks out_cold, next time I will.
[01:54] <pmo5> Nintet, do exist different kind of clustering
[01:54] <Jordan_U> Trfsrfr: What happens when you try to configure dual monitors?
[01:55] <Blackadder> thanks for the tip */15
[01:55] <pmo5> Blackadder, welcome
[01:55] <temoto> Hello. Is there a way to configure my   link encap:ipv6-in-ipv4   interface in /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:55] <Blackadder> = 15,30,45,59?
[01:55] <Trfsrfr> jordan, it says something about applying the changes next time someone logs in
[01:55] <Out_Cold> There is a new installer? I d/l'd mythbuntu and am getting stuck right after the first installation screen. I select download updates button and then it just idles forever after.. any ideas??
[01:55] <Trfsrfr> but it never does
[01:55] <Blackadder> k will give it a try & will know after 15 min I guess from the log file
[01:56] <jflash> No offense, but ppl "ask to ask" to be respectful, and polite....chastising ppl for it is disrespectful and rude. But thanks for your help
[01:56] <Blackadder> so crontab -e */15****path
[01:56] <Nintet> pmo5, if i set up a cluster will it speed up apps other than mpi apps?
[01:56] <pmo5> Blackadder, you'd better try on console first.. scripts hardly work the first time
[01:56] <Jordan_U> Trfsrfr: Your messages to me will only be highlighted in my client if you use my full nick.
[01:56] <Jordan_U> !tab | Trfsrfr
[01:56] <cordiceps> sup
[01:57] <pmo5> Nintet, no, if you cluster with mpi..
[01:57] <Blackadder> script is working manually I just need to automate it as it keeps diconnecting
[01:57] <pmo5> Nintet, only applications making use of mpi, will benefits from clustering..
[01:58] <Out_Cold> I'm not chastising anyone... I'm promoting good chat etiquite
[01:58] <Blackadder> so easiest soloution - cron since cache takes 9 seconds to empty
[01:58] <Trfsrfr> the selected config for displays could not be applied, required virtual size...
[01:58] <Nintet> pmo5, so basically if i need to speed up DraftSight there is no way to run that as an mpi app?
[01:58] <cordiceps> lol, why on earth would you run ubuntu on a cluster?
[01:58] <mactimes> Hey.  I've just installed kde-full package.  Is there a virtual package I can use to "purge" default gnome installation?
[01:58] <Nintet> autocad actually
[01:58] <Nintet> because i have points in both oceans =(
[01:58] <cordiceps> running a cluster implies better knowledge of linux
[01:58] <pmo5> Blackadder, you could also try .. echo "name_of_your_script" | at now ...
 jflash: do you have a real question?   <Skaperen> jflash: what keeps you from asking it? ... this is rude....
[01:59] <Trfsrfr> my apologies, this is all new...
[01:59] <Jin> hey, I have a quesion
[01:59] <Jin> question, and it's not related to ubuntu
[01:59] <Jin> can I ask it here :D?
[01:59] <Skaperen> jflash: yes I know people "ask to ask" ... we try to break them of that habit because it's actually annoying ... if asking would be intrusive, then asking to ask would be, too
[01:59] <Jordan_U> !ot | Jin
[01:59] <Jin> okayz
[01:59] <Nintet> so there is nothing to distribute all operations across the cluster?
[02:00] <pmo5> Nintet, mpi // message passing that is the way you make use of the whole potential of your cluster.. if Dark.. doesn't make use of mpi.. hence it will not scale..
[02:00] <Nintet> or is there an mpi version of qemu?
[02:00] <Jin> okayz ubottu
[02:00] <Trfsrfr> Jordan_U, and ubotto - not understanding the tab function, and hitting the key doesnt do anything
[02:00] <Jordan_U> Nintet: You can't get the benefit of clustering from an application not designed to be clustered.  What syslog should I look at for errors?
[02:01] <Nintet> especially for emulators
[02:01] <Jordan_U> Trfsrfr: If you type "Jorda" then hit tab it doesn't complete automatically to "Jordan_U" ?
[02:01] <pmo5> Nintet, there is different kind of cluster.. some make use of mpi, others work differently.. but for all, there good work to do on all your computers to make them work together..
[02:01] <Nintet> so there is no mpi capable emulator?
[02:01] <Blackadder> managed to run yum & cmake on Ubuntu 11.04
[02:01] <Blackadder> :)
[02:01] <Blackadder> compiled nicels
[02:01] <Blackadder> nicely
[02:02] <Trfsrfr> Jordan_U, now it did.  Maybe I didnt type enough letters
[02:02] <pmo5> Nintet, to tell you most application as i know, doesnt make use of mpi.. usually people making use of mpi / clustering.. reprogram their own application to make use of mpi..
[02:02] <Nintet> well i set up the one with knoppix, but i don't want to write a cad app to use it =(
[02:03] <Out_Cold> Trfsrfr: if there is many names that start with jor, it will display them and wait for you to add more input..
[02:03] <Trfsrfr> Jordan_U, did you see the error message above?
[02:03] <Carl892> How can I cause any commands executed by root to be logged, including a timestamp?
[02:03] <Trfsrfr> Out_Cold, thank you, i'm getting the hang of it now
[02:03] <zetheroo> I cannot believe that something as archaic as burning a CD has become such a cumbersome thing in Ubuntu!! :P
[02:04] <Out_Cold> Trfsrfr: tab is fantastic for shell also.... it works very similar to here
[02:04] <pmo5> Nintet, hence you will need to build another kind of cluster..
[02:04] <Jordan_U> Nintet: There is no way around it. Passing information over the network is incredibly slow compared to just accessing local memory. There's no way to "emulate" local memory access over the network that would do anything but slow down an application. Apps designed for clustering doll out tasks to nodes and only pass information between them as needed.
[02:04] <Blackadder> crontab works but had to give the absolute path to script ending with command line to restart
[02:04] <Trfsrfr> Out_Cold, I am so rookie newbie I dont even know what shell is!
[02:04] <pmo5> Nintet, Dark.. is a windows program ?
[02:05] <Out_Cold> Trfsrfr: it's the black DOS looking terminal that is the back bone of ubuntu
[02:05] <Blackadder> its something u find walking on the beach
[02:05] <Nintet> well, apparently some engineers i deal with have 10gHz computers for editing cad files
[02:05] <Nintet> and i dont
[02:06] <Trfsrfr> Out_Cold, - I have seen it, but am afraid of it.
[02:06] <pmo5> Nintet, i don't know your program.. i don't know Dark.. maybe there is a release adapted to clusters.. with mpi or sometghing else
[02:06] <commodore64th> Does
[02:06] <pmo5> Nintet, or working on very specific machines.. far more powerfull then a PC..
[02:06] <Nintet> well draftsight has been released for ubuntu
[02:06] <Nintet> it is very nice
[02:07] <Nintet> a cloud?
[02:07] <Renierius> Hey guys, any of you ever successfully ran SAMP?
[02:07] <commodore64th> Does anyone have experience with usb networking?
[02:07] <Nintet> i have heard that people rent cloud computers and install windows apps
[02:07] <Blackadder> lastest release of webmin seems to work nicely with 11.04
[02:07] <Out_Cold> Trfsrfr: depending on your setup and installation, you may or may not want to play in there... If you had a virtual machine, you could save a snapshot, goof around till it breaks then just reload the snapshot... but that is just one of thousands of good setups
[02:07] <Guest50621> I am on my Samsung Epic 4G in force roam out in the boondocs SSH to my server at home, lol. But I didn't msg the nickserv in time.
[02:08] <Trfsrfr> Jordan_U, "the selected config for displays could not be applied, required virtual size..."
[02:08] <pmo5> Nintet, cloud computing / high bandwidth
[02:08] <Jordan_U> Trfsrfr: Did you log out then back in again?
[02:09] <Trfsrfr> Jordan_U, I did. No luck.
[02:10] <commodore64th> I have a Linux device connected to my Linux PC via USB networking. I have successfully set up an SSH server between them, but the Linux device isn't connecting to the internet.
[02:10] <Jordan_U> Trfsrfr: Do you get the same error when you try to add the second monitor again after logging out and in?
[02:10] <Renierius> SAMP is a mod for the game GTA San Andreas, I'm using Wine to run it (the game itself works) but when I use SAMP to connect to a server and it starts up the game it seems to crash after less than a moment. Do you guys perhaps have any idea?
[02:10] <pmo5> commodore64th, you need default route to internet router, i think
[02:10] <commodore64th> hrm... how do I do that?
[02:11] <Trfsrfr> Jordan_U, I have only tried to log in out once. Let me try again.
[02:11] <pmo5> commodore64th, sorry maybe far mor then that .. :) .. fill up /etc/resolv.conf too, with dns name aka nameservers .
[02:11] <Renierius> I get in game, I can see everything, but when  it's supposed to ask me for my password (like the first thing it does after it's found the connection) it dies off.
[02:11] <Blackadder> compiled shell script to propagate user & passwords on a cluster of 4 ubuntu dedicated servers with a user management system in httpd do the crons have toi be set a diffrent times or at system time?
[02:12] <pmo5> commodore64th, netstat -nr  / better .. ip route ls (i  prefer) and check out if you have a default route
[02:13] <itaylor57> I am running 11.04 and upon wakeup from sleep the cursor is lagging and unable to select menu options.  Is there a log I should look at for errors?
[02:13] <commodore64th> here's my ip route ls: http://pastebin.com/CDwUp2t5
[02:14] <commodore64th> the first line is my USB networking conneciton, I think.
[02:14] <Blackadder> is there a channel dedicated for ubuntu server
[02:15] <julian_c> Blackadder: check out #ubuntu-server. Not as active as here, but it's there.
[02:16] <commodore64th> pmo5, how do I know if I have a default route?
[02:16] <pmo5> commodore64th, ip route ls .. should show a line to start with "default"
[02:16] <commodore64th> ah.
[02:17] <commodore64th> Well, I have "default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0  proto static"
[02:17] <fun-workin> unbelievable ... is this laptop linux-proof or what ? ... usb booting 'test ubuntu' not working 'instal from usb' not working, install by Wubi.. not working :<
[02:17] <commodore64th> so now what?
[02:17] <Out_Cold> fun-workin: what kind of laptop?
[02:17] <pmo5> Nintet, your engineers make use of mpi to use Dark.. ?
[02:18] <fun-workin> asus z96s
[02:18] <pmo5> commodore64th, now.. /etc/resolv.conf..
[02:18] <Out_Cold> have you checked the checksum?
[02:18] <pmo5> commodore64th, if you have nothing there or #lines.. you could add a line like .. nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:19] <Out_Cold> fun-workin: ^^ have you checked the checksum?
[02:19] <fun-workin> out_cold, me? unfortunately i dont know what it is
[02:19] <Nintet> pmo5, no they generate impossible to edit cad files
[02:19] <commodore64th> I have two lines; "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" and "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[02:19] <Nintet> mpo5, they must have a server or cluster or some 7334 technology to edit them together
[02:20] <Out_Cold> fun-workin: the checksum is a hash value that you compare for the iso you downloaded to a hash that is on the ubuntu site. It verifies the integrety of the iso
[02:20] <pmo5> commodore64th, if you do "host www.google.com" does that work .. if you "ping 192.168.. and ping 199.. " does it work too (ctrl C to stop them?
[02:21] <fun-workin> Out_Cold, ok ill read bout it and get back to ya with result.
[02:21] <Out_Cold> pmo5: you could also ping -c 4 host to keep the ping short
[02:21] <pmo5> Nintet, other clusters can be of help.. if your application forks..
[02:22] <pmo5> Out_Cold, yep tell commo.. not me ;-) :)
[02:22] <HeTaL> Hello. If I want to stop the update manager from ever popping up, how can I achieve that? It kinda kills my I/O and freezes my computer when it starts checking for packages to update.
[02:22] <commodore64th> pmo5: my device doesn't have the "host" command, but it does have wget. When I run "wget http://www.google.com" I get "Connecting to www.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>:80)"
[02:22] <Nintet> pmo5, what other clusters are there?
[02:22] <spasysheep> is there an easy way to add packages to an ubuntu iso so that they will be installed with the system?
[02:22] <commodore64th> I think it times out after a while...\
[02:22] <escott> HeTaL, remove it from gnome-session-properties
[02:22] <pmo5> Nintet, plenty.. long time since i looked.. Mosix
[02:22] <Out_Cold> !remaster
[02:23] <spasysheep> Out_Cold, thanks
[02:23] <pmo5> commodore64th, hmmm.. try ping..
[02:23] <HeTaL> escott: Does this require a reboot?
[02:23] <dannyd__> hi
[02:23] <fun-workin> Out_Cold, will it help if i tell you that i donwloaded 3 different types of ubuntu ? is it possible that all 3 are corrupted ?
[02:23] <sxealex> o/
[02:23] <HeTaL> Also, I can just do apt-get update and it'll fix it, right?
[02:24] <HeTaL> by fix it, I mean it will do whatever the update manager was doing.
[02:24] <escott> HeTaL, no just won't be started on the next login
[02:24] <zetheroo> after reading dozens of forums and bug reports, and trying all kinds of "potential fixes", still no luck with burning a simple CD! :(
[02:24] <pmo5> fun-workin, if you payed for any of them, they are likely to be corrupted. in fact you corrupeted them
[02:24] <Out_Cold> fun-workin: not likely.. although if you put them to disc, possibly.. but disc and usb, very unlikely.... Just trying to eliminate possibilities
[02:24] <fun-workin> Out_Cold also bootable usb with ubuntu was working fine on different pc ;/
[02:25] <HeTaL> escott: Great. Now it shouldn't pop up any more, right? I did "ps ux | grep update" and killed the current process.
[02:25] <escott> HeTaL, just remove that update-manager process from your gnome-session and it won't start when you login
[02:25] <pmo5> zetheroo, k3b.. <==
[02:25] <sxealex> If anyone has any ideas: I'm in the middle of an upgrade to 10.10 and its asking about setting file replacements with 9 minutes remaining… but I switched my kvm switch and it wont recognize my input devices now.  Tried xmacro via ssh but its not installed anymore for some reason … Any ideas?
[02:25] <Out_Cold> fun-workin: 64 bit or 32?
[02:25] <fun-workin> pmo5 no i didnt pay for any of them ;p
[02:25] <commodore64th> pmo5, I can only ping the computer the device is directly connected to, but no other computers on my network.
[02:26] <HeTaL> escott: Thanks for your help. Appreciated.
[02:26] <zetheroo> pmo5: no go
[02:26] <fun-workin> Out_Cold i tried both
[02:26] <vorlov> hello im trying to get vnc to work with X/gdm and i disabled network-manager and gdm.conf... i then installed vnc4server
[02:26] <vorlov> and when i vnc it just loads a blank white screen
[02:26] <vorlov> any ideas perhaps?
[02:27] <nraic> Hello, my side bar doesn't seem to keep my choose applications after a reboot. It returns to the default apps like firefox, oo writer and so on instead of the new apps I have chosen. Does anyone know why this might be happening?
[02:27] <itaylor57> I am running 11.04 and upon wakeup from sleep the cursor is lagging and unable to select menu options.  Is there a log I should look at for errors?
[02:27] <Out_Cold> fun-workin: i've had install issues with 64 bit before as well as 32 bit.. but after trying several different options, usually one works lol....
[02:27] <pmo5> commodore64th, on default line of "ip route ls".. you should have the IP of your router...
[02:27] <commodore64th> ip route ls returns "command not found"
[02:28] <commodore64th> <IP_ADDRESS> is my router. nvm
[02:28] <fun-workin> Out_Cold when i boot up from usb i just let it do hes job, its counting down to default choice, its try ubuntu, after it get to 0 it just restart, and it go on and on and on
[02:29] <sxealex> If anyone has any ideas: I'm in the middle of an upgrade to 10.10 and its asking about setting file replacements with 9 minutes remaining… but I switched my kvm switch and it wont recognize my input devices now.  Tried xmacro via ssh but its not installed anymore for some reason … Any ideas? O.o
[02:29] <Out_Cold> try a different medium?? have an external cd drive??
[02:29] <Wakko10Warner> rm -rf /bin/laden
[02:29] <silvanesti> lol
[02:29] <syrinx_> no
[02:29] <Out_Cold> Bahahahahahaha ^
[02:29] <DingGGu> lol..
[02:29] <tapoxi> Hi guys, serious networking problem. Wireless card (wmp300n) won't find or connect to APs, module is loaded. No errors in jockey.log or kern.log. Tried using an older version, didn't help. Ideas?
[02:30] <rww> Wakko10Warner: #ubuntu-offtopic for stuff like that ;)
[02:30] <fun-workin> out_cold tbh id love to avoid using CD
[02:30] <Trfsrfr> Jordan_U, I tried loggin in and out, and still get the same error message.
[02:30] <silvanesti> I'm using 11.04 in classic mode but the window bar doesn't refresh frequently enough
[02:30] <Out_Cold> fun-workin: then perhaps try a different usb installer... try pendrive linux
[02:30] <pmo5> commodore64th, impossible.. <IP_ADDRESS> is not an IP address, but a network..
[02:31] <Jordan_U> Trfsrfr: What graphics card are you using?
[02:31] <pmo5> commodore64th, could be <IP_ADDRESS> but not <IP_ADDRESS> ..
[02:31] <commodore64th> I think it's <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:31] <Swordsman> hey
[02:31] <silvanesti> for example if I change websites in ff the title of the window doesn't always change
[02:31] <commodore64th> I mean
[02:31] <commodore64th> It is <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:31] <pmo5> commodore64th, ok.. makes more sense
[02:31] <commodore64th> anyway, should I completely explain my setup?
[02:32] <Trfsrfr> Jordan_U, I am running a radeon hd4650, its in the supported list
[02:32] <Out_Cold> fun-workin: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[02:32] <Gold`> hi
[02:32] <pmo5> commodore64th, hence your router doesn't let you go.. outside.. filtering reason ???
[02:32] <Gold`> Was wondering if anyone can help me
[02:32] <Swordsman> I need to have a bash script run in a terminal on startup... I tried "gnome-terminal -e /path/to/my/script", but the script doesn't run, it just dies
[02:32] <escott> sxealex, if you could find the stuck pid you might be able to steal its stdin file descriptor with root privileges
[02:32] <Out_Cold> Gold`: ask away ;)
[02:32] <py9371> what do you do in ubnutu when a program freezes up?
[02:32] <Gold`> I have a terrible stalker on my end and hes at me 24/7 and not sure what to do
[02:32] <py9371> I guess go to processes
[02:32] <Swordsman> it works fine when I'm not doing gnome-terminal -e
[02:33] <py9371> i still have a lot to get used to with the new UBuntu
[02:33] <py9371> wow i dont know where processes is or sntying
[02:33] <Gold`> can anyone help or give me assiatnce
[02:33] <Swordsman> but I need it to open in a terminal, so
[02:33] <kingofswords> hi how do i unmount in gmount
[02:33] <Out_Cold> py9371: i use "Alt+F2" type "xkill" and click the offending window
[02:33] <syrinx_> Gold`: with what?
[02:33] <Jordan_U> Trfsrfr: Have you tried the "Additional Drivers" utility?
[02:33] <Gold`> I have this crazy stalker online
[02:33] <Jordan_U> !ot | Gold`
[02:34] <Swordsman> is there a proper way to open a bash script in a new terminal window?
[02:34] <syrinx_> this is the wrong place to get help for that lol
[02:34] <Gold`> been bothering me for 6 months
[02:34] <Momoka> how change program brightness on ubuntu?
[02:34] <Gold`> Can anyone offer where I can go
[02:34] <silvanesti> Gold: GO AWAY
[02:34] <commodore64th> I have a Caanoo (linux device) connected to my PC (ubuntu) through USB networking. They can ping each other. Their IP addresses on their network are <IP_ADDRESS> (Caanoo) and <IP_ADDRESS> (PC). My PC is connected to a wired network, where it's IP is <IP_ADDRESS>, and the router is <IP_ADDRESS>. The Caanoo cannot connect to my main network that my PC is connected to.
[02:34] <Trfsrfr> Jordan_U, I probably did awhile ago. I used to have both monitors and sound working, but then I think I let it automatic update and it all went away
[02:34] <Gold`> silvansti, I hope one day you have this issue and try to seek help
[02:34] <Gold`> ty
[02:34] <microc0sm> hi im trying to install through the software center and it wont let me because The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources. Anyway to get this installed and allow it im a linux noob
[02:35] <py9371> i have to say some things about the new ubuntu take some getting used to
[02:35] <py9371> where is the processes thing?!
[02:35] <microc0sm> projectm
[02:35] <fun-workin> Out_Cold thanks for advices ill try with other loader
[02:35] <tjiggi_fo> zetheroo, are you perhaps burning to CD-RW disks?
[02:35] <py9371> and I cant stand how I cant open two windows at the same time
[02:35] <py9371> like 2 terminals for example
[02:35] <Out_Cold> py9371: should be in the systems menu if that still exists.. i haven't tried 11.04
[02:36] <zetheroo> tjiggi_fo: nope ... just plain old CD-R
[02:36] <microc0sm> please help i really would love to have project m installed i hate goom
[02:36] <py9371> Out_Cold if i was you i might stay with the older version
[02:36] <pmo5> commodore64th, echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward  (on your pc)
[02:36] <zetheroo> tjiggi_fo: the issue is with wodim ... I am trying to repair it ... but it's ridiculous that I have to do this stuff to burn a CD
[02:36] <Out_Cold> py9371: i may just switch distros....
[02:36] <py9371> Out_COld the side panel app thing is cool but the whole thing needs some work
[02:37] <py9371> theres no systems menue
[02:37] <py9371> no start menuy thing just side panel
[02:37] <microc0sm> !project m
[02:37] <pmo5> commodore64th, your PC should let your linux device frame go forward.. when it actually filters those
[02:37] <py9371> some of tthe stuff is getting really anoying
[02:37] <Jordan_U> !details | zetheroo
[02:37] <py9371> slowing me down a little
[02:37] <Out_Cold> fun-workin: a piece of advice, if you use the pendrive installer, it will ask you to download the file again, unless you specify the exact name of the iso you already have..
[02:37] <Carl892> Question, I have turned on process accounting /var/account/acct -- and using lastcomm I can see a history of recent commands, but I cannot see the *full commands*. For example, I see "ls" but not "ls -latr" -- anyone know how I can see that?
[02:37] <pmo5> commodore64th, you may need and iptables rules too ..
[02:37] <zetheroo> Jordan_U:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/149076?comments=all
[02:38] <tapoxi> Anyone? Broadcom issues on 11.04?
[02:38] <Trfsrfr> Jordan_U, where is the additionally drivers utility located?
[02:39] <Jordan_U> Trfsrfr: In System Settings.
[02:39] <zetheroo> Jordan_U: pretty full on ay! ;)
[02:39] <py9371> im getting it though
[02:39] <py9371> everything is a freking app already
[02:43] <linuxer0203>  anyone here ?
[02:43] <Out_Cold> lots here
[02:43] <Skaperen> nope
[02:43] <linuxer0203>  i have a qusetion .
[02:43] <bastidrazor> linuxer0203: a pony is here.
[02:43] <compromdon> Hi I've just installed natty, and I wanted to get the gnome3 shell. I've tried to get it  via  sudo apt-get install gnome-shell but I don't get an option in the login screen. anyone know how I can install this ?
[02:43] <roasted> Question - I set up software raid in the alternate installer. When it completed, I logged in and checked out my mount points and fstab. There was no entry for raid, and I cannot manually mount either drive independently. When you're in the alternate installer, does it give you an option to create a mount point for the raid? Or do you HAVE to fix that afterwards?
[02:43] <Jordan_U> zetheroo: Have you tried using cdrecord, or xorriso? (xorriso is in the default repositories for Ubuntu).
[02:43] <taglass> $/quit
[02:43] <microc0sm> projectm jack audio visualization. how do i install the packages from not authenticated sources. Im trying to install through ubuntu software center and it will not install it, does anyone know a command line way or alterante way to install or something im confused by all this.
[02:43] <linuxer0203> there is something wrong with my IBM  boot
[02:43] <linuxer0203> what should i do
[02:43] <zetheroo> Jordan_U: well, according to what I have been reading I need to replace wodim with cdrecord ...
[02:43] <fun-workin> Out_Cold i used other loder and something happened. it start to load up ubuntu unfortunately it stopped after some time last message is : no plug and play decie found.
[02:43] <zetheroo> Jordan_U: I have never even heard of xorriso
[02:43] <fun-workin> device*
[02:43] <Jordan_U> zetheroo: It's another terminal based iso creation and burning software.
[02:43] <Out_Cold> fun-workin: maybe it's a bad flash or usb port???
[02:43] <zetheroo> Jordan_U: I do wonder though why K3B is tied into using wodim when it's rubbish
[02:43] <Out_Cold> fun-workin: i use that installer very frequently..
[02:44] <zetheroo> Jordan_U: I am not trying to burn via command line ... I need to replace the sym links as well ... so I can use the frontends
[02:44] <sxealex> escott: what stuck pid? its just the mouse and keyboard that are stuck (i am sshed in)
[02:44] <fun-workin> Out_Cold so what should i do ? :) im newbie ;)
[02:44] <PwrSurge> i'm having a problem where most website load intermittently
[02:44] <zetheroo> Jordan_U: There is a how-to here which I am attempting to follow  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=851707
[02:44] <PwrSurge> loading a direct link usually works but clicking on links only works half the time
[02:45] <PwrSurge> Firefox 3.x
[02:45] <linuxer0203>  maybe
[02:45] <linuxer0203>   so saddly
[02:45] <PwrSurge> it stalls on Waiting for ....
[02:45] <Out_Cold> fun-workin: try another port? format the drive? try another stick? read the instructions for the pendrive installer (although it's pretty straight forward)
[02:45] <escott> sxealex, apt-get is stuck waiting for command line input inside the gui right? so you could as root open the fd associated with stdin of that process and jam a "y" into it. i have no idea if it would work
[02:45] <Out_Cold> just some ideas i would try
[02:46] <fun-workin> ok thanks i will
[02:46] <my_name> man yes
[02:46] <pmo5> on the go.. night all.. 3:46 am in here, bye
[02:46] <my_name> good night
[02:46] <Trfsrfr> Jordan_U, The additional drivers utility says that I am using is a proprietary driver.
[02:46] <pmo5> my_name, ;-)
[02:47] <BlackBox> well in here is 4:46 ...:P
[02:47] <py9371> wow if you try to puy system checker on the toolbar it doesnt show up
[02:47] <py9371> what the hell
[02:47] <Jordan_U> Trfsrfr: You can try disabling the proprietary driver, but that may just make things worse.
[02:47] <sxealex> escott: hmm not sure I know how to do that im in as root atm
[02:47] <Out_Cold> Trfsrfr: i sent you a link in a pvt msg
[02:47] <Devious> hello
[02:48] <Devious> im in a bit on a conundrum
[02:48] <sxealex> escott: is it similar to screen command?
[02:48] <roasted> Question - I set up software raid in the alternate installer. When it completed, I logged in and checked out my mount points and fstab. There was no entry for raid, and I cannot manually mount either drive independently. When you're in the alternate installer, does it give you an option to create a mount point for the raid? Or do you HAVE to fix that afterwards?
[02:48] <Trfsrfr> Out_Cold, Thank you...how do I retrieve it?
[02:48] <vorlov> for some reason when i load vnc4server it does not load the fglrx (ATI graphics drivers) with it... anyone know why?
[02:48] <Jordan_U> Out_Cold: It's best to keep support in-channel. That way others can help out and ensure that bad advice isn't being given.
[02:49] <escott> sxealex, the problem is you can't do anything like screen or xmove because you don't have the infrastructure in place to start with
[02:49] <Jordan_U> Trfsrfr: Actually, part of the problem may be that you weren't using ATI's tools for setting up displays.
[02:49] <escott> but maybe there is a way to force screen onto a running process
[02:49] <Out_Cold> Jordan_U: the link is offtopic for downloading pdf manuals..
[02:50] <retf> hi everyone
[02:50] <BlackBox> yeah ATI doesnt really know what linux is.. xD
[02:50] <escott> sxealex, just injecting characters into stdin of a running process
[02:50] <Out_Cold> Trfsrfr: it should be a tab that says "Out_Cold"
[02:50] <commodore64th> pmo5, when I run "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" I get "Permission Denied"
[02:50] <PwrSurge> how can I run firefox with debugging enabled?
[02:50] <sxealex> escott: the screen went to sleep tho -.-
[02:51] <PwrSurge> http://www.thebeerstore.ca/locations
[02:51] <sxealex> so I don't know if I cant tell the out come
[02:51] <escott> sxealex,  then how do you know how it is stuck
[02:51] <PwrSurge> waiting for maps.google.com ...
[02:51] <fun-workin> out_cold, im getting also message "usb 2-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and adress, maby this could give you any clue of what is wrong ?
[02:51] <bastidrazor> commodore64th: use "echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[02:51] <Out_Cold> fun-workin: maybe i should ask what is the OS you are trying to make these sticks on
[02:52] <BlackBox> prob ubuntu...its ubuntu irc..:P
[02:52] <fun-workin> windows xp
[02:52] <Trfsrfr> Jordan_U,  I will try ATI's tools. i'll be back shortly.
[02:52] <BlackBox> omg
[02:52] <Jordan_U> commodore64th: If you're trying to share an internet connection it may be easier to use network-manager's sharing feature: http://magazine.redhat.com/2008/10/16/video-fedora-10-connection-sharing/
[02:52] <Out_Cold> fun-workin: try this app.. http://sites.google.com/site/shamurxboot/download
[02:52] <sxealex> escott: it was stuck i went over to the other comp to google a few things then it was asleep, I am still sshed in and my mumble server is still running
[02:54] <PwrSurge> it's almost like a MTU problem but I know it's not
[02:58] <microc0sm> projectm jack audio visualization. how do i install the packages from not authenticated sources. Im trying to install through ubuntu software center and it will not install it, does anyone know a command line way or alterante way to install or something im confused by all this.
[02:58] <bastidrazor> Jordan_U: wow. connection sharing made simple. i'm impressed.
[02:59] <ippos> Hi everyone, i'd need some informations about ubuntu on netbooks, i considered buying a netbook to use with 11.04 and higher (when they will be released), its specs are intel n455 cpu 1 gb ram and intel gma card (possibly 3150 which is the most used on netbooks) the usage i planned is very simple, it has to handle unity and youtube at at least 720p (less? i dont care aslong as the human eye can watch a flash video, and min
[02:59] <ippos> d you this is just a metre, im not buying a pc for youtube lol). I'd like it to be a long lasting investment, possibly 2 years with no issues (and im considering the actual release the worst since unity is fairly new and supposed to be buggy and resources hungry in the initial stages, correct me if you dont agree). would such specs be good?
[03:00] <bfnfj> how do i add a password to a user in terminal so i can log in as user@*?
[03:00] <Maximo> hello papa
[03:01] <olskolirc> do we have a web based irc program?
[03:01] <zetheroo> well that did not seem to work ... I suppose I'll have to boot into Windowz to burn media - DOH!
[03:01] <twotenam> passwd <username>?
[03:01] <Renierius> Does anyone here have good knowledge of running games while using Ubuntu?
[03:01] <olskolirc> channel rather?
[03:01] <twotenam> bfnfj: try "passwd <username>"
[03:01] <ippos> Renierius: as far as i know most of them will run just fine if you have an arrandale/clarkdale intel card (also known as intel gma HD)
[03:02] <Renierius> ippos: how would I know if I had one?
[03:02] <ippos> Renierius: older will handle assault cube, wormux and hedgewars (only i ever played lol) at mid/mid-high settings
[03:02] <ippos> Renierius : one what?
[03:02] <commodore64th> I tried using connection sharing, but for some reason, my ethernet connection constantly connects and disconnects...
[03:03] <Renierius> ippos: An arrandale/clarkdale intel card?
[03:03] <bfnfj> how do i add a user?
[03:03] <ippos> Renierus: whats your cpu?
[03:03] <aeon-ltd> !adduser | bfnfj
[03:03] <bastidrazor> bfnfj: sudo adduser username
[03:03] <vorlov> can anyone offer any ideas why fglrx isn't loading with vnc4server?
[03:03] <la> hhh
[03:03] <Maximo> !sudo
[03:04] <ippos> Renierius: you may try  lshw -c video (with or without sudo should give you an idea)
[03:04] <Renierius> ippos: an Intel Core i7 Processor.
[03:04] <ippos> Hi everyone, i'd need some informations about ubuntu on netbooks, i considered buying a netbook to use with 11.04 and higher (when they will be released), its specs are intel n455 cpu 1 gb ram and intel gma card (possibly 3150 which is the most used on netbooks) the usage i planned is very simple, it has to handle unity and youtube at at least 720p (less? i dont care aslong as the human eye can watch a flash video, and min
[03:04] <ippos> d you this is just a metre, im not buying a pc for youtube lol). I'd like it to be a long lasting investment, possibly 2 years with no issues (and im considering the actual release the worst since unity is fairly new and supposed to be buggy and resources hungry in the initial stages, correct me if you dont agree). would such specs be good?
[03:04] <ippos> Renierius: lol big toy, open a terminal and give that command see what it says
[03:05] <commodore64th> Jordan_U, I tried connection sharing, but it makes my connection constantly connect and disconnect.
[03:06] <Renierius> ippos: description: VGA compatible controller
[03:06] <Renierius>        product: Juniper [Radeon HD 5700 Series]
[03:06] <Renierius>        vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
[03:06] <Renierius>        physical id: 0
[03:06] <Renierius>        bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
[03:06] <Renierius>        version: 00
[03:06] <Renierius>        width: 64 bits
[03:06] <FloodBot1> Renierius: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:06] <hiexpo> pastebin   Renierius
[03:06] <ippos> Renierius: thats not an intel card, mmmm what drivers are you using?
[03:06] <klevi|PC> What aew modes zq?
[03:06] <Renierius> Yeah, I'll remember that next time ;P
[03:06] <klevi|PC> Are*
[03:08] <bfnfj> how do i change the the name after the @?
[03:08] <ippos> errr, really noone can tell me if a netbook with those specs would play nice with ubuntu? O.o
[03:08] <xangua> !hardware | ippos
[03:08] <rww> !modes | klevi|PC
[03:08] <ippos> xangua: supported is a thing, playing nice is another, as far as im concerned ubuntu can have a pentium 3 as supported but 11.04 wont work
[03:09] <Renierius> ippos: my CPU: http://pastebin.com/eEWYkGCc
[03:09] <ippos> Renierius: cpu shouldnt be a concern, video card is, what drivers are you using?
[03:09] <Renierius> ippos: I'm not certain about the drivers, how should I check?
[03:09] <klevi|PC> Ahha.. Less strict moderaton and a mute switch
[03:09] <klevi|PC> ty rww
[03:09] <rww> welcome
[03:09] <ippos> Renierius: faster way (dummy way) would be opening jockey and seeing what has a green check near the name lol
[03:10] <ippos> Renierius: sadly i personally dont know any other way to check for nvidia  or ati drivers :P
[03:10] <Renierius> ippos: dummy way would be good for now, since I'm quite a newbie ATM :P
[03:11] <bfnfj> how do i change the the name after the @?
[03:11] <ippos> Renierius: fine, you have natty?
[03:11] <Guest67432> how can i move my unity launcher i know there isn't an option but could i possibly do it by editing some file
[03:11] <rww> bfnfj: after the @ where? in the terminal?
[03:11] <bfnfj> yes rww
[03:11] <ippos> Hi everyone, i'd need some informations about ubuntu on netbooks, i considered buying a netbook to use with 11.04 and higher (when they will be released), its specs are intel n455 cpu 1 gb ram and intel gma card (possibly 3150 which is the most used on netbooks) the usage i planned is very simple, it has to handle unity and youtube at at least 720p (less? i dont care aslong as the human eye can watch a flash video, and min
[03:11] <ippos> d you this is just a metre, im not buying a pc for youtube lol). I'd like it to be a long lasting investment, possibly 2 years with no issues (and im considering the actual release the worst since unity is fairly new and supposed to be buggy and resources hungry in the initial stages, correct me if you dont agree). would such specs be good?
[03:11] <gdea73_> hello, I really need help after restoring Grub2.
[03:12] <rww> !hostname | bfnfj
[03:12] <Renierius> ippos: today I installed the driver on Jockey, it's named "ATI/ADM proprietary FGLRX graphics driver"
[03:12] <ippos> Renierius: and you cant play with it?
[03:13] <pdtpatrick____> there's no more netbook book version of ubuntu?
[03:13] <Renierius> ippos: I'm sorry for forgetting to mention this earlier, but I'm able to play games (technically), yet I'm having a problem with one specific thing.
[03:13] <xangua> !nebook | pdtpatrick____
[03:13] <xangua> !netbook
[03:13] <pdtpatrick____> !netbook | pdtpatrick___
[03:13] <ippos> Renierius: whats the problem?
[03:13] <gdea73> hello again. My computer won't boot after restoring GRUB.
[03:13] <xangua> !une
[03:14] <xangua> aggg, hard to remember that
[03:14] <Renierius> ippos: are you familiar with the game GTA San Andreas? And if so, SAMP?
[03:14] <pdtpatrick____> oh interesting
[03:14] <ippos> Renierius: used to rock at it rofl
[03:14] <ippos> Renierius: mind you that you are probably using wine, thats well known to give problems since you re not playing a native game
[03:14] <bfnfj> How do i give a user i added root rights?
[03:15] <ippos> Renierius: the best thing you want to do is check "samp wine" or "gta san andreas wine" on google, it should give you the winehq link for those games including any configuration hints and so on
[03:15] <rww> bfnfj: sudo adduser usernamehere admin
[03:16] <Renierius> ippos: Awesome :} But I got everything to work separately now, yet when I try to connect to a server on SAMP it seems to go wrong within the first moment of the game having started up.
[03:16] <gdea73>  Is anyone willing to help? I am greeted by a spastically flashing cursor upon boot. This is after 1) installing Windows XP on a separate partition, and 2) restoring GRUB
[03:16] <Blackadder> sudo su
[03:16] <Blackadder> then give root a password
[03:17] <Renierius> ippos: Yes, I am indeed using Wine and I checked the WineHQ, but it didn't seem to bring a solution to this problem.
[03:17] <ippos> Renierius: any error?
[03:17] <ippos> Renierius: something from terminal or any game error
[03:17] <gdea73> ?
[03:17] <zhaohui> feif
[03:17] <Renierius> ippos: there usually isn't an error message, the game gets stuck unnaturally and I have to close it off myself.
[03:18] <Jordan_U> gdea73: How did you re-install grub?
[03:18] <bfnfj> rww that doesnt work
[03:18] <ippos> Renierius: just gets stuck like windows does or gets the whole pc stuck?
[03:18] <gdea73> Jordan_U: according to the guide on the wiki. I verified that I had mounted only my ubuntu partition, then I typed this:
[03:18] <gdea73> "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444 /dev/sda"
[03:18] <fun-workin> Out_Cold, meh its not working ... i give up for now, gonna get some sleep. Thanks for your time thou :)
[03:19] <rww> bfnfj: does the output of "groups" when logged in as the new user include "admin"?
[03:19] <bfnfj> rww: it says the group admin does not exist.
[03:19] <Renierius> ippos: both, occasionally, but just the window getting stuck happens by far the most.
[03:19] <Jordan_U> gdea73: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[03:19] <rww> bfnfj: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[03:19] <bfnfj> rww: idk how would i check that?
[03:19] <bfnfj> rww: 10.04
[03:19] <Renierius> ippos: which I mostly fixed my closing off Wine entirely.
[03:20] <gdea73> Jordan_U: I have only one internal hard drive, a Samsung Spinpoint 1TB SATA drive.
[03:20] <Renierius> ippos: fixed by closing*
[03:20] <ippos> Renierius: thats very odd i must say
[03:20] <ippos> Renierius : you sure you followed winehq guide?
[03:20] <rww> bfnfj: can you copy the output of "apt-cache policy sudo" to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and link the page it creates here, please?
[03:20] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | gdea73
[03:20] <gdea73> ok
[03:21] <bfnfj> rww: http://pastebin.com/AUEkHR1F
[03:21] <Renierius> ippos: there isn't really a guide, just a few crucial notes which I all followed, the only thing I could try is using winetricks to install directX.
[03:22] <pksadiq> bfnfj: try echo $PS1   and see your current PS1 edit it after @ to what ever you need and export
[03:22] <Renierius> ippos: let me see what that brings.
[03:22] <gdea73> Jordan_U: I get this error running the script: ./boot_info_script.sh: 353: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "fi")
[03:22] <Jordan_U> gdea73: It's not an sh script. It's a bash script.
[03:23] <ippos> wow!!!! i just noticed i put 720p on a netbook rofl, i meant to ask 540p rofl, sorry , anyone has thoughts?
[03:23] <gdea73> Oh. I thought sh = bash ...
[03:23] <bfnfj> how do i delete a user?
[03:23] <ippos> 540-360 its just a metre anyways  + unity which will be used for real
[03:23] <gamax92> hey can you guys help the loser in ##tptgames
[03:24] <Renierius> ippos: it makes no sense though, PlayOnWindows should already have taken care of that or it would've happened otherwise, because else I wouldn't have been able to play the SP at all.
[03:24] <rww> gamax92: no. #ubuntu's for Ubuntu technical support, not cross-server silliness.
[03:24] <gamax92> its not cross server
[03:24] <gdea73> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/eFht4qHe
[03:24] <gamax92> and tpt is a version or fork of ubuntu
[03:24] <bfnfj> how do i delete a user?
[03:24] <gamax92> deluser
[03:24] <rww> gamax92: it's not officially supported, so it's offtopic for here.
[03:25] <researcher123> hello everybody
[03:25] <BLZbubba> how do i disable @#$^ compiz on natty?
[03:25] <cordoval_>   > Network Card :  RTL8168/8111 PCIe Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
[03:25] <cordoval_>   > Network Card : VT82C570 MV IDE Controller VT6105 Rhine III Fast Ethernet Controller
[03:25] <cordoval_> are these supported in ubuntu?
[03:25] <ippos> Renierius: I'm probably going to get hit by someone here but most games for windows played on ubuntu make no sense to me, in fact many of them have issues that are usually fixed in ages, now this is my point of view as ex windows user i feel your pain but actually (to me) getting a game to work with wine is very very hard, you may want to troubleshoot any script/shortcut you used (if any) to get it to work, also, does the
[03:25] <ippos> game work for you in single player?
[03:26] <cordoval_> if my network with these cards does not pick up, wired connection, what can i try?
[03:26] <cordoval_>   > Network Card :  RTL8168/8111 PCIe Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
[03:26] <jefferyw> No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[03:26] <jefferyw> No package 'gdk-pixbuf-2.0' found
[03:26] <cordoval_>   > Network Card : VT82C570 MV IDE Controller VT6105 Rhine III Fast Ethernet Controller
[03:26] <Jordan_U> !ot | ippos
[03:26] <Braydn> When I install run 11.04 from a usb i get a black screen... Help?
[03:26] <researcher123> I have a USB Pen Tablet but Natty does not recognise it.What do I do?
[03:27] <cordoval> researcher123: wacom?
[03:27] <cordoval> it is useless, I hope they change that soon
[03:27] <cordoval> it is wacom's fault
[03:27] <p_res> researcher123: tried reboot after plug in?
[03:27] <researcher123> cordoval: whats that?
[03:27] <cordoval> someone knows what to do to configure network card or have it pick it up?
[03:27] <cordoval>   > Network Card :  RTL8168/8111 PCIe Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
[03:27] <cordoval>   > Network Card : VT82C570 MV IDE Controller VT6105 Rhine III Fast Ethernet Controller
[03:28] <Jordan_U> gdea73: Do you see the grub menu if you hold shift during boot?
[03:28] <ippos> Jordan_U: he has problems with a windows game, i said what i think then gave him a lil hint
[03:28] <rodrigo> Boa noite pessoal!
[03:28] <ippos> he/she i dont know sorry lol
[03:28] <p_res> i only ask because i've required reboots after plugging in some usb devices.
[03:28] <Renierius> ippos: Yes, it works in SP, ATM I'm using winetricks to install DirectX just to be sure, let's see if that brings any change.
[03:28] <rodrigo> não tenho conhecimento algum de IRC alguém pode me ajudar ?
[03:28] <gdea73> Jordan_U: Okay, I will try that. I'm running the livecd now so I will be offline for a while. hope to come back soon. thanks.
[03:29] <maco> !br | rodrigo
[03:29] <rcmaehl_mobile> Help! How do I ftp with nautilus. There''s no ftp option, so what package would i need?
[03:29] <ippos> Hi everyone, i'd need some informations about ubuntu on netbooks, i considered buying a netbook to use with 11.04 and higher (when they will be released), its specs are intel n455 cpu 1 gb ram and intel gma card (possibly 3150 which is the most used on netbooks) the usage i planned is very simple, it has to handle unity and youtube at at least 720p (less? i dont care aslong as the human eye can watch a flash video, and min
[03:29] <ippos> d you this is just a metre, im not buying a pc for youtube lol). I'd like it to be a long lasting investment, possibly 2 years with no issues (and im considering the actual release the worst since unity is fairly new and supposed to be buggy and resources hungry in the initial stages, correct me if you dont agree). would such specs be good?
[03:29] <klevi|PC> rcmaehl_mobile: have you tried FTP:// in the address bar
[03:29] <rcmaehl_mobile> klevi|PC: yes
[03:30] <adubz> dhclient wlan0 nor ifup wlan0 is not working
[03:30] <ippos> Renierius: it shouldnt be a directx problem its supposed to be wine that doesnt work with it, also because if sp works directx is working too
[03:30] <rcmaehl_mobile> klevi|PC: error I get when I try is"nautilus cannot support ftp:// locations"
[03:30] <zhsso> wc
[03:30] <klevi|PC> Ah then use filezilla
[03:30] <rcmaehl_mobile> no
[03:30] <rcmaehl_mobile> I want to use  nautilus
[03:31] <rcmaehl_mobile> nautilus supports ftp by default
[03:31] <Guest20158> anyone how to install a .sh file
[03:31] <rcmaehl_mobile> but I think I uninstalled the package
[03:31] <rcmaehl_mobile> Guest20158: chmod +x file
[03:31] <p_res> although i agree nautilus should work, filezilla is ten time better for ftp.
[03:31] <Guest20158> think I have it but what pops up is a EULA
[03:31] <jefferyw> almost 1600 people in here wow'
[03:31] <p_res> i use filezilla on both windows and linux.
[03:31] <rcmaehl_mobile> ><
[03:32] <Guest20158> and at the end of that it just says "END"
[03:32] <rcmaehl_mobile> I just want to reinstall teh package
[03:32] <xangua> rcmaehl_mobile: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:33] <FedeXX> hi
[03:33] <Jarred> I'm having a lot of trouble getting Ubuntu 11.04 to install, it only detects one of my hard-drives
[03:33] <Jarred> I've posted a thread here on ubuntuforums - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10847376#post10847376
[03:33] <Jarred> and by "detects"  I mean the installer
[03:33] <Jarred> yet I can mount my other hard-drives just fine
[03:33] <nguyenthanhtuan> hello
[03:34] <Jarred> Could anyone help me out?
[03:34] <ippos> Jarred: try exiting the installer during a live session, mounting the drives and retrying to install (while still on live)
[03:34] <FedeXX> you mean by hand on the console right?
[03:34] <MustardCU> Jarred, with what?
[03:34] <rcmaehl_mobile> Jarred: try live usb instead?
[03:34] <ippos> jarred: not 100% sure where it is on unity but there is an icon :P
[03:34] <microc0sm> projectm jack audio visualization. how do i install the packages from not authenticated sources. Im trying to install through ubuntu software center and it will not install it, does anyone know a command line way or alterante way to install or something im confused by all this.
[03:34] <adubz> trying to figure out what command will get my internet connection back up to my router my iface is wlan0
[03:34] <adubz> i have tried everything and i want this to be accomplished at the command line
[03:34] <Jarred> It unmounts the hard-drive whenever I open the insatller
[03:35] <Corey> Jarred: If that fails, pull the other drives, install Ubuntu, put the other drives back. :-)
[03:35] <FedeXX> one lame solution would be to... install 10.10 and upgrade :D
[03:35] <ippos> Jarred: wow thats odd, is it related to just one version?
[03:36] <Jarred> It never happened before
[03:36] <Jarred> (as in I had no trouble installing Ubuntu on previous versions)
[03:36] <ippos> Jarred: FedeXX been faster than me , take his/her advice
[03:36] <FedeXX> well, I got 10.10 working perfect and on 11.04 still can't get the 3d card to work
[03:36] <microc0sm> im still using ubuntu 10
[03:36] <gdea73> I'm back... no luck.
[03:36] <microc0sm> i dont want to swith ight now
[03:36] <Jarred> Is there anything less annoying I could do?
[03:36] <ippos> Jarred: stick to 10.10 for now
[03:36] <ippos> Jarred: way less annoying
[03:37] <Jarred> lol alright
[03:37] <FedeXX> 10.10 works fine
[03:37] <Jarred> true
[03:37] <ShadowBlade> Sup guys
[03:37] <Jarred> but I'd rather try the new one
[03:37] <klevi|PC> Hey guys general computer question here. Using my motherboards SATA port, I've got it connected to my ESATA dock. So far, Ubuntu only seems to see one drive, even though both drives come up through USB. My question is basically thus. Will a motherboard SATA port only ever see one drive per slot?
[03:37] <ippos> Jarred: i'm on 11.04 right now and i see stuff disappearing on my desktop rofl
[03:37] <FedeXX> but I must admit that the unity visuals are good
[03:37] <microc0sm> ippos you know anything about project m? i been asking allot
[03:37] <Jarred> Here's more info http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1764585
[03:37] <microc0sm> i cant install it from software center
[03:38] <microc0sm> because the source is not authenticated. how do i install it?
[03:38] <ippos> Jarred: lots of hdd's O.o
[03:38] <Renierius> ippos: Sorry about that, I had to power off my PC because it got stuck.
[03:38] <cordoval>   > Network Card :  RTL8168/8111 PCIe Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
[03:38] <cordoval>   > Network Card : VT82C570 MV IDE Controller VT6105 Rhine III Fast Ethernet Controller
[03:38] <cordoval> are these supported in ubuntu?
[03:38] <ippos> Renierius: no problems
[03:38] <cordoval> what do i have to do in commands to enable these network cards?
[03:38] <Renierius> Ippos: But I have an update on my situation now.
[03:38] <Jarred> ippos: yeah
[03:38] <ShadowBlade> Hey guys, I need help with compiz Fussion. How do I add effects and stuff? I don't have an icon.
[03:38] <Jarred> I bought like one of them
[03:38] <julian_c> Would it be accurate to say that most people having issues w/ Natty are having the most problem with Unity, and that in a large number of cases, it's the use of NVIDIA graphics?
[03:38] <Jarred> the 32gb one's are from like 2005 and used to be my brothers
[03:38] <ippos> julian_c: one here lol
[03:39] <cordoval> i think there is a service to autoconfigure network right?
[03:39] <Jarred> 160gb was from a friend of my brother's computer that never ended up working and he didn't care enough to pick up the parts
[03:39] <FedeXX> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:39] <cordoval> which is the command?
[03:39] <cordoval> service network start?
[03:39] <microc0sm> anyone dualboot ubuntu on ps3 i want to get a ps3e but dont know if that will still work
[03:39] <KM0201> julian_c: i think so.. i switched to a release w/o Unity, and 11.04 has been perfect
[03:39] <FedeXX> or something like that :D
[03:39] <ShadowBlade> thanks
[03:39] <klevi|PC> julian_c: Mines glitchy too, but the card itself is terrible as its one of those Nvidia chipsets
[03:39] <ippos> jarred: no idea besides pulling the others during the install sorry, nothing comes up
[03:39] <klevi|PC> Im sure thats to blame more than anything julian_c
[03:39] <Jarred> Alright
[03:39] <needlez> hi can someone help me install vba-m from source??
[03:39] <BLZbubba> anyone here familiar with compiz & 11.04 ?
[03:39] <gdea73> Jordan_U: It just says GRUB Loading... and then clears screen and shows the blinking __
[03:40] <Jarred> Could it be a kernel module?
[03:40] <ippos> Jarred: that unmounts your drives?
[03:40] <Renierius> ippos: After the DirectX install through Winetricks one of the servers I tried connecting to seemed to work well, the only problem present was that I was missing fonts (but this is easily fixed). However, when I tried to tab out my PC froze.
[03:40] <Jarred> No, that prevents hte installer from detecting it
[03:40] <ippos> Renierius: whats the update?
[03:40] <Jarred> Doesn't the installer just used libparted?
[03:40] <Jordan_U> gdea73: Interesting. Has it ever worked since you ran grub-install?
[03:40] <cordoval>   > Network Card :  RTL8168/8111 PCIe Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
[03:40] <cordoval>   > Network Card : VT82C570 MV IDE Controller VT6105 Rhine III Fast Ethernet Controller
[03:40] <cordoval> how to configura these?
[03:40] <cordoval> e
[03:40] <FloodBot1> cordoval: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:40] <Jarred> I have that same netwrok card, and it works fine
[03:41] <Jarred> (by default with Ubuntu)
[03:41] <cordoval> really out of the box?
[03:41] <Jarred> yeah
[03:41] <microc0sm> i feel like a ghost up in this mutha
[03:41] <cordoval> Jarred: wow, hmm what it could be
[03:41] <cordoval> do you know a command for auto configuring?
[03:41] <Renierius> ippos: That is, I've been able to start it up (once), but everything freezes upon trying to tab out.
[03:41] <FedeXX> does anyone managed to get this card working on 11.04?
[03:41] <Renierius> ippos: My entire OS.
[03:41] <microc0sm> can yall mofos not read my txts?
[03:41] <gdea73> Jordan_U: Nope. Sure it's interesting, but this is also kind of an important workstation :S
[03:41] <cordoval> Jarred: also this goes to router and router goes to an antenna
[03:41] <FedeXX> Intel Corporation Mobile GME965/GLE960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[03:41] <cordoval> could this be a problem?
[03:41] <Jarred> I'm not sure about the 8111 part, but I know I have the RTL8168
[03:41] <Jordan_U> !language | microc0sm
[03:41] <Jordan_U> !patience | microc0sm
[03:41] <cordoval> hmm
[03:42] <Jarred> I installed OSx86 awhile back on here and had to deal with the kexts for it
[03:42] <ippos> Renierius: no idea, nothing comes up you may want to get in touch with wine team/forums/wherever you may find a samp player
[03:42] <microc0sm> !help
[03:42] <cordoval> Jarred: ktexts?
[03:42] <cordoval> Jarred: please explain
[03:42] <Jarred> *kexts
[03:42] <cordoval> ktexts
[03:42] <needlez> hi im getting this error but the package is installed -- checking for module 'gtkglextmm-x11-1.2'
[03:42] <needlez> --   package 'gtkglextmm-x11-1.2' not found
[03:42] <Renierius> ippos: Maybe not freeze, but I get stuck in the control of my PC.
[03:42] <Jarred> I know I meant to say kexts
[03:42] <cordoval> Jarred: kexts?
[03:42] <Jarred> Kext are basically drivers for OSX
[03:42] <cordoval> for the network?
[03:42] <Renierius> ippos: Alright, well many thanks already, man :}
[03:42] <Jarred> It's only related to OSX
[03:42] <cordoval> oh
[03:42] <cordoval> that is mac
[03:42] <cordoval> hmm
[03:42] <Jarred> Yeah
[03:42] <FloodBot1> cordoval: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:42] <cordoval> ok
[03:42] <ippos> Renierius: more than welcome, wish i was able to help more
[03:43] <Renierius> ippos: I really learned something again here, on my way to become fully accustomed to Ubuntu :}
[03:43] <cordoval> Jarred: what are the things that I can try?
[03:43] <ippos> Renierius: to not run windows games? :P
[03:43] <FedeXX> does anyone managed to get this card working on 11.04?
[03:43] <Jarred> Try putting a static IP
[03:43] <FedeXX> Intel Corporation Mobile GME965/GLE960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[03:44] <trism> needlez: you need the -dev package when compiling source libgtkglextmm-x11-1.2-dev
[03:44] <ippos> FedeXX: whats your problem?
[03:44] <needlez> can someone help me install vbam im running ubuntu 10.04 and im getting this error when trying to build from source ackage 'gtkglextmm-x11-1.2' not found
[03:44] <needlez> CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:259 (message):
[03:44] <needlez>   A required package was not found
[03:44] <needlez> Call Stack (most recent call first):
[03:44] <needlez>   /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:311 (_pkg_check_modules_internal)
[03:44] <needlez>   CMakeLists.txt:62 (PKG_CHECK_MODULES)
[03:44] <FedeXX> does not start the 3d graphics
[03:44] <FloodBot1> needlez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:44] <FedeXX> cant enable the compiz effects
[03:44] <klevi|PC> needlez: Pastebin.com
[03:44] <Jordan_U> gdea73: If you need something working now, then you can try booting Ubuntu with Super GRUB2 Disk.
[03:44] <FedeXX> which make unity does not work
[03:44] <cordoval> thanks
[03:44] <Renierius> ippos: Nah, more about Ubuntu in general, and how it's being handled. Plus I'm having -some- advance on the problem at hand :P
[03:44] <needlez> trism: i already have -dev package for it
[03:45] <gdea73> Jordan_U: Okay. I don't have much *time* now, actually, but I'll look into that.
[03:45] <ippos> FedeXX: thats odd usually intel stuff works well with ubuntu
[03:46] <ippos> Renierius: good, i hope that problem gets fixed asap
[03:46] <needlez> anyother ideas??
[03:46] <Renierius> ippos: Alright, thanks again :)
[03:46] <FedeXX> on 10.10 works perfect
[03:46] <FedeXX> but not this time :S
[03:46] <ippos> FedeXX: you know the exact model of that card?
[03:46] <ippos> Renierius: again more than welcome
[03:46] <FedeXX> that's what ubuntu tells me
[03:47] <needlez> i got the sdl installed fine its just the gtk part that doesnt want to coroperate
[03:47] <FedeXX> it is using i915 driver
[03:47] <ippos> FedeXX: laptop i suppose?
[03:47] <FedeXX> yep
[03:47] <FedeXX> compaq 610
[03:47] <ippos> FedeXX: brand and model ?
[03:48] <ippos> FedeXX: im afraid 610 isnt enough as far as i know they have more stuff after the main ID, can you confirm me this?
[03:48] <Renierius> ippos: God bless ye, son!
[03:48] <ippos> Renierius: lol thanks
[03:49] <FedeXX> ippos: let me search, I don't have the original packaging or manuals :P
[03:49] <P1ro> hi, i wonder if anyone can give me a hand, im trying to add two isp on same box, to make a link for a FPS game, wonder if that can be made and how ?
[03:49] <ippos> P1ro: isp ? O.o
[03:49] <P1ro> two conections
[03:50] <P1ro> differents isp
[03:50] <ippos> P1ro: 2 modems too?
[03:50] <P1ro> yes
[03:50] <P1ro> dhcp both
[03:50] <ShadowBlade> anyone know a ubuntu compatible ventrilo alternative?
[03:50] <ippos> P1ro: im afraid i dont know for sure, i suppose you re using 2 network cards too right?
[03:50] <P1ro> shadey teamspeak !
[03:50] <P1ro> ippos yes
[03:51] <ShadowBlade> can I connect to vent servers with that?
[03:51] <P1ro> ippos well one ether and other wifi
[03:51] <rz950> no
[03:51] <P1ro> ShadowBlade no
[03:51] <P1ro> ShadowBlade you can use wine and ventrilo
[03:51] <ShadowBlade> How do I do that/
[03:51] <P1ro> ShadowBlade but not always work
[03:51] <ippos> P1ro: are we sure thats even possible on any system?
[03:51] <ShadowBlade> I just installed ubuntu like yesturday.
[03:51] <P1ro> ShadowBlade you know what wine is ?
[03:51] <ShadowBlade> Not a clue.
[03:51] <P1ro> ippos thats is what im trying to figure out
[03:52] <P1ro> ShadowBlade you can google it
[03:52] <P1ro> !wine
[03:52] <P1ro> or that
[03:52] <ippos> P1ro: im afraid its not, unless you mean that 1 connection is the one you use and if it fails the pc switches to the other
[03:52] <ShadowBlade> Ahaha Alrighty then :D
[03:52] <ShadowBlade> How would I use that to run ventrilo on here?
[03:52] <P1ro> ShadowBlade you can run windows apps, but more run with bugs and stuff
[03:52] <ShadowBlade> Well I do have wine on here.
[03:53] <ShadowBlade> But I have no clue on how to use it to run ventrilo.
[03:53] <ippos> ShadowBlade: why not use teamspeak?
[03:53] <P1ro> ippos i know that way, but im trying to get both at same time, and the server can appect conections on both sides
[03:53] <Exodist2009> Easy way for vent is to install WinXP in VirtualBox VM and it works just find.
[03:53] <ShadowBlade> ippos, because my friend just set up a ventrilo server and he wants me to join it.
[03:53] <ippos> P1ro: im afraid thats not possible, but probably im just bad informed
[03:53] <P1ro> ippos i htink he is tryign to connect a ventrilo server for friends
[03:54] <P1ro> ShadowBlade look what Exodist2009 told you
[03:54] <ippos> ShadowBlade: tell them to ditch ventrillo :P or just download its exe chmod +x it and double click
[03:54] <ShadowBlade> I could do that :D
[03:54] <P1ro> last time i run ventrilo with wine it sucked
[03:54] <ShadowBlade> I have no clue what chmod+x means
[03:54] <ShadowBlade> ahaha
[03:54] <P1ro> LOL
[03:54] <FedeXX> lol
[03:54] <ShadowBlade> I'm telling you, I have no clue what I'm doing.
[03:55] <ippos> ShadowBlade: open the terminal   type chmod +x       then give a space and drag the exe icon in the terminal then find it and doubleclick on it
[03:55] <P1ro> ShadowBlade i can tell
[03:55] <FedeXX> ShadowBlade: it gives the file execute right
[03:55] <FedeXX> ShadowBlade: so the SO knows is an binary file
[03:55] <P1ro> ShadowBlade chamod change file attributes
[03:55] <adubz> 11.04 natty dhclient is NOT working for me what so ever with iface wlan0 although access point wpa settings are in tact seems like a bug can someone shed some lifght
[03:56] <FedeXX> ShadowBlade: (or a runable file)
[03:56] <FedeXX> (if the word exists lol)
[03:56] <P1ro> ShadowBlade in "+x" means executable
[03:56] <ShadowBlade> Ok
[03:56] <ShadowBlade> I got an error when I double clicked it
[03:56] <P1ro> ShadowBlade so chmod (changing file attributes) +x (to executable)
[03:56] <ippos> ShadowBlade: first do the terminal thing then double click
[03:56] <ShadowBlade> I did
[03:57] <FedeXX> what error?
[03:57] <ShadowBlade>  End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[03:57] <ShadowBlade>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[03:57] <ShadowBlade>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[03:57] <ShadowBlade>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[03:57] <FloodBot1> ShadowBlade: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:57] <ippos> ShadowBlade: wtf
[03:57] <ShadowBlade> I got that
[03:57] <P1ro> FedeXX the error should be not tracking ticket!
[03:57] <ippos> ShadowBlade: i got it
[03:58] <ippos> ShadowBlade: if you have wine installed right click on that file and go on "open with wine"
[03:58] <ShadowBlade> Got the installation wizard :D
[03:58] <ippos> Hi everyone, i'd need some informations about ubuntu on netbooks, i considered buying a netbook to use with 11.04 and higher (when they will be released), its specs are intel n455 cpu 1 gb ram and intel gma card (possibly 3150 which is the most used on netbooks) the usage i planned is very simple, it has to handle unity and youtube at at least 540p (less? i dont care aslong as the human eye can watch a flash video, and min
[03:58] <ippos> d you this is just a metre, im not buying a pc for youtube lol). I'd like it to be a long lasting investment, possibly 2 years with no issues (and im considering the actual release the worst since unity is fairly new and supposed to be buggy and resources hungry in the initial stages, correct me if you dont agree). would such specs be good?
[03:58] <ippos> ShadowBlade: now it should be all easy like on windows
[03:58] <ShadowBlade> Thanks so much
[03:58] <ippos> ShadowBlade: welcome
[03:59] <ShadowBlade> Awesome, works great!
[03:59] <ippos> I'd also like to thank FedeXX and p1ro for explaining you what i wanted you to do with the terminal lol
[03:59] <ShadowBlade> I seen some people on different image sites and seen there ubuntu looks all transparent and they have like fire when they close a window. How do I get that?
[03:59] <ippos> FedeXX. got any details on your computer?
[03:59] <P1ro> hahaha
[03:59] <aeon-ltd> ippos: 540p? you mean 720p? 480p? 320p?
[03:59] <needlez> hi im getting this error when trying to compile vba-m http://pastie.org/1954482
[04:00] <P1ro> ippos well im a linux helper
[04:00] <P1ro> or more like used to be
[04:00] <P1ro> long time ago
[04:00] <ippos> aeon-ltd: yes actually 360p full screen would make my day, its just a metre
[04:00] <P1ro> like 5 years ago
[04:00] <FedeXX> ippos: not yer
[04:00] <FedeXX> I never used any benchmark in linux :D
[04:00] <ippos> aeon-ltd: MUST deal well with mail clients and be able to use crappy webmails lol
[04:01] <FedeXX> ippos: I take any recomendations :D LOL
[04:01] <P1ro> ShadowBlade well compix-fusion if im not wrong
[04:01] <ippos> FedeXX: you should just grab your pc box and see the model
[04:01] <FedeXX> ippos: that's what I don't have
[04:01] <P1ro> ShadowBlade get drivers for you card and check if ur card is supported
[04:01] <mobile__> hello
[04:01] <ippos> FedeXX: restart, boot into bios and it should say the exact model, perhaps in hardware info the model of your graphics card
[04:01] <P1ro> btw
[04:02] <P1ro> making scripts for command lines
[04:02] <FedeXX> ippos: says just what I told you
[04:02] <FedeXX> compaq (in huge) then the post does not tell me anything else
[04:02] <P1ro> ill try to run it with ./XXXX.sh and are not working
[04:02] <P1ro> says command not found, what did change?
[04:02] <ippos> FedeXX: ugh, errrr how old is it?
[04:03] <P1ro> ahhh yes
[04:03] <P1ro> compaq bios are useless
[04:03] <ippos> all are ;)
[04:03] <needlez> nvm i got it i needed SDL installed
[04:03] <FedeXX> ippos: 2 years
[04:03] <trism> needlez: apt-get build-dep visualboyadvance; plus installing libgtkglextmm-x11-1.2-dev seemed to work for me
[04:04] <ippos> FedeXX: was it ultracheap? might be that your card is too old or is one of the "not so well supported" ones
[04:04] <P1ro> ippos yes but compaq show you two screen, one for changing time and other for saving it LOL
[04:04] <ippos> Hi everyone, i'd need some informations about ubuntu on netbooks, i considered buying a netbook to use with 11.04 and higher (when they will be released), its specs are intel n455 cpu 1 gb ram and intel gma card (possibly 3150 which is the most used on netbooks) the usage i planned is very simple, it has to handle unity and youtube at at least 540p (less? i dont care aslong as the human eye can watch a flash video, and min
[04:04] <ippos> d you this is just a metre, im not buying a pc for youtube lol). I'd like it to be a long lasting investment, possibly 2 years with no issues (and im considering the actual release the worst since unity is fairly new and supposed to be buggy and resources hungry in the initial stages, correct me if you dont agree). would such specs be good?
[04:04] <ippos> P1ro: rofl
[04:04] <FloodBot1> ippos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:04] <ShadowBlade> I can see what you mean about it being really laggy
[04:04] <P1ro> ippos im not lieying is like that
[04:04] <ShadowBlade> buggy*
[04:04] <ippos> P1ro: i know i had a compaq
[04:04] <FedeXX> ippos: hope not, but also, on 10.10 works perfectly fine, with compiz and all the effects enabled
[04:04] <needlez> visualboy advance doesnt work correctly, it shows games in black and white not in color, and that other is already installed
[04:04] <P1ro> :P
[04:04] <ippos> FedeXX: might be a unity issue
[04:04] <P1ro> dang i need some networking guru ! !!!
[04:05] <ippos> P1ro: tbh customer care had it more than me, it was permanently on repair rofl
[04:05] <ihashacks> FedeXX: "lshw -c video gives" details right on the terminal
[04:05] <trism> needlez: that is to get the deps to build it, not to install visualboyadvance (since vbam seems to be a fork, but it will probably have similar deps)
[04:05] <rz950> I have net issues too P1ro
[04:05] <rz950> my wifi seems to drop in and out =/
[04:05] <P1ro> ippos lol it happends
[04:05] <ihashacks> FedeXX: I too have the GM965/GL960 and can't get Unity 3d working properly (compiz can be enabled, just not Unity 3d)
[04:05] <P1ro> rz950 o: what net issues? im have not issues, just trying to do something really good
[04:06] <P1ro> ihashacks well its take time to get support for new cards
[04:06] <ippos> FedeXX  ihashacks: tried unity2d ? quick dirty solution
[04:06] <tomshaw> Finally got Unity running on my EVGA Geforce GTS 450, problem was a Hauppauge WinTV card was screwing something up!
[04:06] <FedeXX> ihashacks: the details are the ones I put
[04:06] <tomshaw> :p
[04:06] <FedeXX> ippos: I did and works
[04:06] <rz950> P1ro: I'll be surfing and all of a sudden it slows to a crawl, its not my isp, windows doesn't have this issue
[04:06] <ihashacks> ippos: yes, unity2d works fine
[04:06] <ippos> FedeXX: im afraid you're stuck with either unity2d or gnome classic
[04:06] <FedeXX> ippos: but the performance decreaces hugely
[04:07] <FedeXX> ihashacks:  on 3d?
[04:07] <P1ro> rz950 what card/drivers
[04:07] <ippos> ihashacks FedeXX: i have massive issues with graphics and 11.04 too although im using a nvidia card which kinda sucks with linux :P
[04:07] <ihashacks> P1ro: it's actually not a new card, just a low end integrated Intel
[04:07] <FedeXX> ippos: sniff, it was what I was afraid of :(
[04:07] <aeon-ltd> ippos: a lot of netbooks could handle that just fine, though really i'd be more ambitious without breaking budget boundries of course
[04:07] <rz950> P1ro: its the rt73usb driver, its the linksys usb wifi card
[04:07] <Renierius> Guys, is there a way to "escape" when one program is causing you to get stuck? Like a way to still exit it and close it off? I mean when you're in one window full screen and alt-tabbing is made impossible by it getting stuck.
[04:08] <ippos> aeon-ltd: like buying a dual core netbook?
[04:08] <aeon-ltd> ippos: no, start with what you want to do
[04:08] <JediKayaker>  Hello ... I am new to Ubuntu. Can someone give me their opinion on whether Ubuntu for desktop or Ubuntu server would be best for building a LAMP stack enterprise web server.
[04:08] <P1ro> rz950 o: very nice card, but change the drivers, prolly are the one giving you the issue
[04:08] <ippos> Renierius: i used ctrl+alt+del it would open an exit window which could be ignored and would let me open activity monitor rofl
[04:08] <researcher123> how do I type command to know my operating system name & version number?
[04:08] <Pici> researcher123: lsb_release -a
[04:08] <aeon-ltd> JediKayaker: server ofc, why would you need a gui?
[04:08] <ippos> aeon-ltd: surf the web with few limits, max thing i may do is watch a movie on megavideo but again thats a rare thing (rarely-to-never)
[04:08] <P1ro> rz950 i have a realtek too, but not right here, it worked great on gentoo and bracktrack
[04:09] <rz950> P1ro: might be a piece of crap card lol
[04:09] <P1ro> rz950 lol no is actually a very good card
[04:09] <Nisstyre> lolyes
[04:09] <aeon-ltd> ippos: you mentioned unity is that a must?
[04:09] <rz950> P1ro: I was trying to compile latest source but had some issues, i'll try to find a little older
[04:09] <ippos> aeon-ltd:  i can survive without it but would be happier with
[04:10] <P1ro> rz950 well chipset is really good, i dont think linksys will kill it
[04:10] <P1ro> rz950 find a older one.
[04:11] <tomshaw> Apparently Firefox is trying to hog out Chromium as the default browser. :P
[04:11] <JediKayaker> aeon-ltd;  not so comfortable at this point, so a GUI would be nice.  Bur ultimately want best choice from a performance perspective.
[04:11] <FedeXX> tomshaw:  the eternal fight :D
[04:11] <ippos> tomshaw: the browsers war moved to your computer lol
[04:11] <adubz> dhclient is not working on connecting my wifi to router
[04:11] <Renierius> ippos: as an ex-Windows user I must say that that was the kind of thing I was thinking of, but it doesn't seem to have the same effect on my Ubuntu. And it's not that my whole PC froze, because I could clearly still notice other processes running in the background due to the sound coming from them. Notably the radio stream I was listening to on my browser.
[04:11] <adubz> it works on other machines but with ubuntu 11.04 it does not work
[04:11] <aeon-ltd> ippos: then yeah your selection is huge only thing left now is what peripherals you'd like (e.g. sd card reader, webcam etc) - are you sure 360p fullscreen is what  you want (360p is on of the 2 lowest resolutions youtube supports)
[04:12] <aeon-ltd> JediKayaker: you could not get more performance than no gui, without a gui (compared with full gnome DE) you would gain easily 300mb of ram back
[04:12] <ippos> aeon-ltd: what about megavideo? is it 540? O.o
[04:13] <ippos> Renierius: pardon?
[04:13] <julian_c> For netbooks, I've seen 1024x600 to be relatively standard.
[04:13] <ippos> Renierius: got you
[04:13] <aeon-ltd> ippos: megavideo varies per upload, but most intel integrated cards should be fine, i mean its 3d rendering where intel cards suck in comparison to nvidia
[04:14] <ippos> aeon-ltd: i'm not using games, ever, just sometimes (very rarely) might watch a megavideo vid, else its all about webmail and such things
[04:15] <Renierius> ippos: If I ctrl + alt + del in Ubuntu it only seems to give boot options, and only when it's able to naturally come on the foreground. (Which it doesn't seem to be able to when for example a game is asking up that priority)
[04:17] <ippos> Renierius: no idea what a fix may be, as i said i only had pains with wine, although i dont like windows if i had gaming needs id much rather dualboot it lol
[04:18] <ira_gershwin> Renierius: if you have a misbehaving full-screen app, you're better off to switch to one of your tty terminals with ctrl+alt+f1-f6 and then either reboot gnome or kill the offending process
[04:18] <Renierius> ippos: You don't game momentarily?
[04:18] <JediKayaker> aeon-ltd: hmmm ... so server would be best then? At the price of losing the GUI.  Another question ... If I simply find myself struggling to get around, is it possible to add the GUI to Ubuntu server later?
[04:18] <aeon-ltd> ippos: then yeah, i'd say all you need is a cpu > 1ghz, ram 1gb (could go down to 512mb but with gnome or unity thats pushing it a little), hdd - whatever you'd like; though thats just my opinion, if you can go to electronics store look at some get a feel of what you need (cd drives, mem card readers, number of usb slots, keyboard and design you like etc)
[04:19] <aeon-ltd> JediKayaker: yeah you can install Xorg and any desktop you like over server
[04:19] <SeanInSeattle> Is it possible to install ubuntu 11.04 without gnome only and no unity?
[04:19] <ippos> aeon-ltd: i have a model if you want further details, no need for cd drives or so tho :P
[04:19] <ippos> Renierius: i have a console lol cant be bothered gaming on pc
[04:19] <ippos> Renierius: but no i dont actually game, its parked there
[04:20] <aeon-ltd> JediKayaker: just start from gui if you want to, but if you have time i'd give server ago learn a little in the process
[04:20] <ira_gershwin> SeanInSeattle: you could get a fork distro like linux mint, or just choose ubuntu classic at the splash screen to only boot non-unity
[04:20] <aeon-ltd> ippos: nope thats ok, thats all i have to say
[04:20] <aeon-ltd> JediKayaker: *a go
[04:20] <ippos> aeon-ltd: thank you sooooo much, much appreciated after 2 hours of repeating at 10 mins intervals :P
[04:21] <SeanInSeattle> ira_gershwin: Can you define fork distro?
[04:21] <ira_gershwin> in the same way ubuntu derives from debian
[04:21] <ira_gershwin> maybe fork is mildly inaccurate
[04:21] <ira_gershwin> fork implies a one-time split
[04:21] <ira_gershwin> it's a derivative
[04:22] <ippos> ira_gerswin: ubuntu 11.04 without unity?
[04:22] <P1ro> ippos do you know if there will be a way to make a virtual NICs that will lisen to eth0 & eth1 ?
[04:22] <ira_gershwin> with the "gnome classic" desktop that superficially does not use unity
[04:22] <ippos> ira_gershwin: you have it in ubuntu 11.04 you can choose ubuntu classic
[04:23] <ira_gershwin> that's what i was saying
[04:23] <JediKayaker> ?
[04:23] <ippos> P1ro: no idea
[04:23] <ippos> P1ro: forgive me but im really tired right now, was it you the one trying to use 2 isp?
[04:24] <Griz64> What file in /boot/grub do i need to edit to add stanzas (different boot options) that i want??
[04:24] <ippos> ira_gershwin: sorry im lostl ol
[04:25] <ira_gershwin> i told SeanInSeattle that he could A) switch to an ubuntu derivative that's more conservative or B) switch to the ubuntu classic desktop
[04:25] <JediKayaker> aeon-ltd: thanks for the info ... I will take a look at loading server instead of desktop for my LAMP stack.  Thanks again.
[04:25] <ippos> ira_gerswhin: LOL i must be totally dumb right now i thought you were asking if there was a way to not use unity, sorry
[04:26] <ira_gershwin> ippos: no prob
[04:26] <P1ro> ippos dont worry its fine,
[04:26] <P1ro> ippos some1 told me that it can be done like a load balancing stuff
[04:26] <ippos> P1ro: was it you?
[04:27] <ippos> P1ro: give some time to breath i think my brain needs hoxygen lol
[04:27] <antaranian> hi ladies
[04:27] <ippos> P1ro: ok, so what you want to do is communicate to a server using 2 isp's right?