[00:11] <ujjain> is there an ubuntu server netinstall?
[00:15] <SpamapS> ujjain: yes!
[00:15] <ujjain> SpamapS: mini.iso?
[00:16] <SpamapS> ujjain: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[00:16] <SpamapS> ujjain: also if you need to do more than 1 or 2, you can use Orchestra
[00:16] <SpamapS> ujjain: but thats only barely available in 11.04, and really slated for "awesomeness" in 11.10
[00:17] <ujjain> I don't use tftp.
[00:17] <ujjain> hehe, Ubuntu is realy getting pretty awesome even for servers
[00:17] <SpamapS> ujjain: if you can put physical media in, you may want the minimal.iso
[00:18] <ujjain> I'l l use the mini.iso, it's just a testserver anyway
[00:18] <ujjain> let's just hope I don't have a GUI
[00:20] <ujjain> k, that went wrong I think ^^
[00:25] <dhon_> hi all, does anyone know of a way to kill an active TCP socket? I'm trying to test what happens when a client connection drops out
[00:25] <SpamapS> dhon_: iptables can simulate it
[00:26] <dhon_> from the command line that is (not within the app)
[00:27] <dhon_> SpamapS: I haven't used iptables before, could you elaborate?
[00:29] <SpamapS> dhon_: well you could make it drop packets or refuse connections..
[00:30] <dhon_> SpamapS: do you know if it will apply to active connections, or only future ones?
[00:31] <SpamapS> dhon_: its very low level, you can add/remove rules
[00:32] <SpamapS> dhon_: what exactly are you trying to test though?
[00:33] <SpamapS> dhon_: sounds to me like what you want to do is something like   iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -s remote-host --port 44444 -j DROP
[00:33] <dhon_> I have a service that opens a TCP socket to a server (my service is a client here)
[00:33] <dhon_> after some long period, my services is not communicating with the server anymore
[00:34] <dhon_> I would like to test if the connection being dropped produces similar results, as it's not generating any helpful log messages
[00:35] <SpamapS> yeah, iptables (a firewall, btw) would be useful for that
[00:35] <dhon_> SpamapS: cool thanks, I'll read up on that iptables command
[00:35] <dhon_> SpamapS: sounds like what I want
[00:36] <dhon_> one more thing, will I need to reverse that command in the future to reallow connections again?
[00:43] <SpamapS> dhon_: yes
[00:44] <dhon_> just replace -A with -D?
[00:45] <SpamapS> yep
[00:45] <dhon_> oh sorry, not using -A
[00:45] <SpamapS> note that I used -I .. to put it at the top
[00:45] <dhon_> I see, thanks for the help SpamapS
[01:37] <tucemiux> hey what logs should I be checking on my server ?
[02:20] <joeylockie>  hello am seting up a server mostly for my family to use and am planing on instailing the server with a full desktop environments (which one yet i dont know) but in order to do this do I need to install any of the preedefind collections of software in the server installer? or is it possable to istall them (if I fiond out I need them) later?
[02:24] <Datz> joeylockie: the main difference between the server and desktop install is the kernel as far as I know.
[02:24] <Datz> So you may just want to go with the Desktop verison
[02:24] <Datz> that way you won't have to install the desktop environment
[02:25] <joeylockie> in the desktop am I ablo=e to add apahice and what not easyly?
[02:28] <Datz> yes
[02:28] <Datz> more easily if you are not familiar with the command line
[02:29] <joeylockie> ok I will look into that thanks
[02:35] <twb> While you *can* set up a desktop on your server, it is not recommended
[03:00] <ntoombs> qman__: you there?
[03:02] <ntoombs> does this forum help with routers?
[03:03] <ntoombs> i've configured my ubuntu server to connect to my router with a static ip address
[03:04] <ntoombs> however when i go into my router and check for attached devices i see my server but it has a different ip address
[03:04] <ntoombs> it's not even in the same range
[03:04] <ntoombs> my router is <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:04] <ntoombs> and the device showingup is <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:05] <ntoombs> i have my server set to <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:05] <ntoombs> i did at one time however have my server's static ip address set to <IP_ADDRESS> awhile back but i don't know how that could have been stored anywhere on my server so i'm assuming its a problem with my router
[03:06] <ntoombs> or with my modem which is now in briged mode
[03:06] <ntoombs> does anyone think they could help with this problem?
[07:38] <jkup> Sup
[09:01] <jvargas> hello. a quick question, are there identified issues or considerations to run ubuntu servers under hyper-v virtualization platform?
[09:45] <jamespage> Daviey: please can you give me an opinion on bug 801038
[09:47] <Daviey> looking
[09:48] <jamespage> ta
[09:49] <Daviey> jamespage: I don't think this is something that will be addressed in Ubuntu.  I agree that libvirtd should check for an existing process, and exit gracefully.
[09:49] <Daviey> I would consider it wishlist and confirmed.
[09:50] <Daviey> I'm not sure i see the overwhelming concern tho :/
[09:50] <jamespage> that was my  thinking; it would be possible to put a check into the upstart config tho
[09:50] <jamespage> but I agree its a bit of an edge case
[09:50] <jamespage> marked as so
[09:54] <Daviey> jamespage: Yeah, just for reference checked to see what apache2 does in the same situation
[09:54] <Daviey> It is better handled.. as in the pid is tracked.
[09:55] <jamespage> It would make a nice server papercut some someone to work on
[09:57] <Daviey> jamespage: good thinking!
[11:10]  * RoyK += 0xc0ffee
[12:17] <Ursinha> good morning people
[12:36] <jamespage> morning Ursinha
[13:02] <sommer1> Woo, Friday!
[14:15] <hallyn> Daviey: regarding MIR for 'gpxe or ipxe' - note that ipxe is now in debian.  Can we just sync that?
[14:16] <hallyn> Daviey: also, I don't understand why I don't show up on http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-server-overview.html
[14:31] <Daviey> hallyn: are you in ~ubuntu-server?
[14:32] <hallyn> ?
[14:32] <hallyn> Daviey: what do you mean?
[14:32] <Daviey> hallyn: so gpxe or ipxe is tricky... I've left that one for now, because ipxe is a fork.. and a better one IMO... but we need to make sure.
[14:32] <Daviey> hallyn: the ~ubuntu-server launchpad group
[14:32] <hallyn> oh
[14:32] <hallyn> pretty sure
[14:33] <Daviey> hallyn: i just added you
[14:33] <Daviey> but that might not be the cause
[14:33] <hallyn> debian went with ipxe, and was hung a long time on the gpxe ITP, so it seems like we should follow them.
[14:33] <hallyn> mind you i've not looked at the source at all
[14:33] <Daviey> hallyn: so the -overview topic isn't yet complete.  I think it is still missing some blueprints.
[14:34] <Daviey> hallyn: I'd prefer ipxe i think... especially as it is already a build dep of xen in main! :)
[14:34] <Daviey> but zul added support for gpxe in cobbler.
[14:34] <Daviey> So zul probabyl needs to update to ipxe for that to proceed.
[14:34] <zul> Daviey: yeah probably
[14:34] <hallyn> since ipxe is a fork, that shouldn't be too hard to port right?
[14:34] <zul> nah
[14:35] <zul> vi s/ipxe/gpxe/g :)
[14:35] <hallyn> Daviey: anyway, my prodding on the overview page was just bc I don't see any place where I was assigned to MIRs.  Not that I mind, I'd like to get lxc working with cgroup-bin today :)
[14:36] <Daviey> hallyn: Hmm
[14:36] <hallyn> so if ipxe is in debian, does a simple sync request suffice, or do we need an MIR still to get it into ubuntu?
[14:37] <Daviey> hallyn: is http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/u/serge-hallyn.html of use?
[14:38] <hallyn> Daviey: yeah I recon
[14:38] <hallyn> feh
[14:38] <hallyn> (feh @ MIRs I see there :)
[14:39] <Daviey> hallyn: Are they ok?
[14:39] <hallyn> odd that i apparently am not on the team
[14:39] <Daviey> hallyn: you are not leaving Ubuntu are you? :)
[14:39] <hallyn> Daviey: not that i know of :)  i'll let you know if iget an email later
[14:41] <hallyn> Daviey: well, they are in sid it seems.  So I guess it should be less than an hour (i hope) which hopefully is less time than i'll have left after finishing with cgroups :)
[14:42] <hallyn> "I'm this close"  -- lol
[14:43] <hallyn> you know what'd be nice?  a nice beefy amd box with huge disk, so I can test kvm bugs in a nested kvm environment
[14:44] <Daviey> hallyn: That can probably happen
[14:44] <hallyn> ?
[14:44] <Daviey> hallyn: access to a big box.
[14:44] <hallyn> davieylabs?
[14:45] <Daviey> lol
[14:46] <hallyn> :)  really, i pay amazon and rackspace for hosting, but they don't have what i need.  you'd think someone would...
[14:46] <Daviey> hallyn: yes... someone probably does... but someone needs to check their pm's :)
[14:47] <hallyn> Daviey: trying a new client, and it errs the opposite way from quassel
[14:47] <hallyn> can't find th eright balance between too few and too many notifications
[14:47] <Daviey> lol
[15:17] <RoyK> rotfl - just went by the oracle.com store, and they're offering 'MySQL Standard Edition Subscription (1-4 socket server) (1 Year)' for just $2000 a year...
[15:19] <patdk-wk> much better than oracle pricing
[15:19]  * RoyK goes to Sahara and sets up a bazar selling sand
[15:35] <omidp> can anyone help me with this page ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[15:38] <slhsen> hi, I have a pc with 4  500G sata hard disk. can i install ubuntu-server on one of them and create a raid 5 array on other tree?
[15:38] <patdk-wk> if you wanted too
[15:38] <slhsen> by the way i'm talking about software raid
[15:38] <mncl-core> if you wanted to, you could indeed
[15:38] <patdk-wk> or you could make all 4 of them a raid5, and install ubuntu on them
[15:38] <mncl-core> or you could make all of them raid-10 and get that extra performance;
[15:39] <patdk-wk> mncl-core, not really
[15:39] <patdk-wk> 4 disk raid10 vs raid5 is really the same
[15:39] <mncl-core> patdk-wk: how so
[15:39] <slhsen> mncl-core, and loose some disk space right?
[15:39] <patdk-wk> raid5 will beat it in fact
[15:40] <mncl-core> patdk-wk: i would like to disagree with that statement. and in fact you also gain extra redundancy
[15:41] <|rt|> raid5 will likely be slower at writes...but otherwise I'd expect them to be similar in speed
[15:41] <patdk-wk> only extreemly small random writes
[15:42] <slhsen> ok another question, lets say I created a raid 5 array with all four disks. and my os became unbootable somehow, will i still be recover my data?
[15:42] <mncl-core> rt: true, but to state that RAID-5 will beat RAID-10 in fact, is completely false.
[15:42] <slhsen> *able to recover
[15:42] <patdk-wk> the statement that raid10 will beat raid5 is false also
[15:42] <|rt|> mncl-core: without context of a workload I don't think you can make claims that any raid level is faster than any other raid level
[15:43] <patdk-wk> slhsen, you recover it the same way you would recover anything else
[15:43] <mncl-core> rt: the context was stated that he is attempting to Software RAID, or RAID 4x 500GB Hard Disks
[15:43] <mncl-core> my statement was simple, that he could use RAID-10 and he would get extra performance.
[15:44] <mncl-core> which is technically accurate.
[15:44] <|rt|> given enough disks if your only task is serving files over a 1 or 2 GBit links then at some point it doesn't matter...from a performance point of view
[15:44] <mncl-core> rt: ahhh very true; but on a technical perspective, there would be a performance gain in other operations; e.g. installing packages, OS Operations, and so on..
[15:45] <patdk-wk> given my workload, reads and writes of 50-100mb files, raid10 makes no sense, it's slow
[15:45] <patdk-wk> given my database, yes, raid10
[15:45] <slhsen> patdk-wk, yeah but, if I save one disk for system, i think i can just install os again and my data will be there
[15:45] <patdk-wk> given an olap store, raid10 is kind of pointless
[15:45] <|rt|> mncl-core: but with 4 drives I think they are about equal...you'll start to see a larger difference as the number of drives increases....and if your workload is sufficiently random
[15:45] <patdk-wk> slhsen you could do that anyways
[15:46] <slhsen> how so
[15:46] <patdk-wk> just run the installer
[15:46] <patdk-wk> it should notice yo uhave raid setup
[15:46] <mncl-core> rt: i have benchmarked extensively RAID-10, true that workload must be considered and increase of disks. but it remains that even with 4x Disks the performance is increased.
[15:47] <mncl-core> plus the extra redundancy aspect
[15:47] <mncl-core> should be considered
[15:47] <|rt|> on my server here (hardware raid with 12 drives) I did a ton of benchmarks trying to decide between raid 10 and raid 6...at the end of the day the difference was 1GB/s vs 700MB/s
[15:48] <mncl-core> rt: well i have several RAID-10 SANs for ESX Clusters and I also had a hard time deciding between RAID-6 and 10
[15:48] <|rt|> I decided to go with RAID6 and get the slightly better data protection and storage at the cost of the 300MB/s
[15:48] <mncl-core> but ultimately RAID-10 destroyed RAID-5 and 6
[15:48] <patdk-wk> the issue with raid5 has always been what happens when a disk is dead
[15:48] <patdk-wk> not how it performes when it's 100% functional
[15:48] <mncl-core> mind you i am using 24x WD Blacks
[15:49] <|rt|> yeah the difference in Mean Time between Data Loss of raid 5 and raid6 and raid10 is hugh
[15:49] <mncl-core> and real adaptec raid controllers
[15:49] <|rt|> huge
[15:50] <|rt|> RAID10 rebuild times are the fastest and a dead drive impacts it the least though
[15:51] <patdk-wk> if my san grows anymore
[15:52] <patdk-wk> I'm going switch it from raid10 to raid 51
[15:52] <patdk-wk> hmm, maybe that would be raid15 :)
[15:52] <patdk-wk> a raid5 of many raid1's
[15:52] <mncl-core> it should also be considered that the more drives you had, the greater probability for simultaneous drive failures.
[15:53] <patdk-wk> ya, raid15 or raid150
[15:55] <|rt|> some of the zfs based NAS/SAN solutions are pretty nice...like Nexenta
[15:55] <|rt|> ssd cache devices really speeds them up too
[15:56] <mncl-core> rt: cool find. will look into more, looks interesting. have been using openfiler for a while now
[15:57] <|rt|> a good number of the ex solaris devs work for Nexenta now
[15:58] <mncl-core> very cool, seems like it is well maintained and supports emulex targets
[15:59] <|rt|> some of the gluster stuff intrigues me too...but it's a very different approach
[15:59] <mncl-core> gluster is a very cool product
[16:00] <mncl-core> reliable, and when you mix it with an openqrm environment, things can get very interesting
[19:06] <zul> hggdh: hey did you get anywhere with bsdtar yet
[19:09] <tarrasch> I want my Ubuntu Server to always run a program (in my case a webserver), preferably as a seperate user. So whats the easiest way to add ever-running services?
[19:11] <patdk-wk> normally, the normal way, and let the service change uid itself
[19:11] <tarrasch> Basically the service should fire up by itself at startup, and I should be able to restart it when the server is up.
[19:11] <tarrasch> so i use my own user that starts a program that switches to another user and keeps running the program I intended?
[19:12] <patdk-wk> hmm, root starts programs at startup
[19:12] <tarrasch> oh ok
[19:12] <patdk-wk> and no, normally the program itself that you start, switchs itself
[19:13] <patdk-wk> if it doesn't, I might have issues with it's lack of security
[19:13] <tarrasch> I know my server already startsup apache, I guess I want something very similiar for myself only for my own webserver
[19:14] <patdk-wk> well, apache config file you set the user and group name
[19:14] <patdk-wk> once it gets started, it changes itself
[19:14] <patdk-wk> that is what your program should do
[19:14] <tarrasch> patdk-wk, you mean that the webserver Ive written (not me really) should at its initialization switch to a dedicated user?
[19:15] <patdk-wk> not at initialization, but normally after that
[19:15] <patdk-wk> cause normally they want to bind to port 80, or read ssl keys, that need root
[19:16] <tarrasch> hmm, I'm gonna run at port 3000+, that doesnt need root, no?
[19:16] <patdk-wk> no, ports <1024 need root
[19:16] <tarrasch> I'll let my apache-server reverseproxy to the other web-server running at 3000
[19:17] <tarrasch> And I've run the server "manually" myself succesfully as my own user (not root); and it works fine. Now I only need to "autorun" my program at startup etc.
[19:18] <tarrasch> since my progrma is simple I won't need root. Is there a simplified process for setting up services that don't need any root?
[19:18] <patdk-wk> guess use su then to start it
[19:19] <patdk-wk> su some-user -s someprogram
[19:19] <patdk-wk> maybe?
[19:19] <patdk-wk> such a hack :)
[19:19] <tarrasch> Sounds great, though I still would like to 1. startup as the system boots up. 2. be able to restart it while running. Any ideas?
[19:21] <tarrasch> I've noticed the 'services' functionality, it seems good though a bit much work to setup something quite simple
[19:23] <tarrasch> 'su designated_user -s /my/web/server' Seems to work otherwise
[19:27] <x404x> How to replace a failed drive on a 3ware 9500 controller ?
[19:28] <x404x> I want it to recognize the drive on the same port the bad one uses
[19:36] <patdk-wk> disconnect old drive
[19:37] <patdk-wk> plug in new drive
[19:37] <patdk-wk> tell 9500 to use new drive as hotspare?
[19:46] <hggdh> zul: not yet, but I finished witht the kernels for this week; I will get back to it now
[19:47] <zul> hggdh: cool
[20:09] <qman__> I'm having a problem with SSH and key authentication
[20:09] <qman__> for the purpose of making tunnels, I have one user on an SSH server, and multiple clients, each with their own key to authenticate as said user
[20:10] <qman__> this worked great until recently when I started adding more clients, and it's rejecting my keys
[20:11] <qman__> what configuration do I need to make on the SSH server to allow more concurrent connections with different keys as the same user?
[20:15] <hggdh> zul: I do not see many options -- why was this link created, in the first place? It wasn't there before A1
[20:16] <zul> hggdh: no idea
[20:16] <hggdh> who would know?
[20:16] <zul> cjwatson: maybe
[20:17] <hggdh> s langasek says the link can be there, as far as ISO is concerned
[20:22] <qman__> ah, nevermind, it was a permission issue buried underneath that
[20:28] <Aison> funny, how do I install ubuntu server on a HP DataVault X510 ;)  there's no screen
[20:28] <Aison> maybe I should install the harddrive on a desktop machine and then plug it into the hp device?
[21:02] <maco> i just installed mysql-server on my lucid server. i gave it a nice long complicated root password, which i copied and pasted from keepass. then i tried to login with "mysql -u root -p" and pasted in the same nice long complicated root password for mysql...and it keeps giving me denied
[21:03] <mncl-core> of course
[21:03] <mncl-core> keypass is greate
[21:03] <maco> is it possible there is some parse-fail going on with the nice long complicated password?
[21:03] <mncl-core> but you cannot use special characters
[21:03] <maco> there we go
[21:03] <mncl-core> and you cannot use 25 characters' common mistake i've done many times before
[21:03] <maco> so how special are they allowed to be?
[21:03] <mncl-core> go with upper-lower-num 18 characters
[21:03] <maco> or is it alphanumeric only?
[21:04] <maco> ok
[21:04] <maco> thanks
[21:06] <maco> i frequently wish keepass had a "kinda special" and a "really special" checkbox, for those sites that allow @#$%^&*() but not ` " ' £
[21:37] <wmoxam> I can't seem to find xfs_freeze in Oneiric
[21:37] <wmoxam> is it moved to a package?
[21:38] <wmoxam> nm
[21:38] <wmoxam> found it
[21:44] <RoAkSoAx> zul: ping?
[21:46] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: you might be able to help me.. does it make any sense to tell dh_install init to install the script with defaults, but disabled? (so that daemon never starts on boot unless otherwise specified?)
[22:15] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: it should use some method *in the script* to be disabled
[22:16] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: like checking /etc/default/xxxx
[22:16] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: it should still run, but not start
[22:16]  * SpamapS prepares to leave for the airport
[22:41] <cjwatson> hggdh: what link is this?
[22:42] <cjwatson> oh, I see on #ubuntu-release, bah @ conversations across multiple channels
[23:55] <lcb> hi. any good phone answering system for 11.04 server? just in case someone knows...


[21:12] <joaopinto> Rov, you could do it from the command line with useradd or adduser, but make sure you keep the same numeric id, or you chown the directory later
[21:12] <ari5av> !br | josilinux
[21:12] <LordDragon> anyone else get a PM from <mariahfemme> advertising an email ?
[21:12] <Mr-Woof> I think I might just click on the places menu lol
[21:13] <ari5av> there you go then :
[21:13] <ari5av> :)
[21:13] <guntbert> but josilinux, you are welcome here if you speak english with us :_)
[21:13] <Rov> Does anyone know why it simply doesn't ask my if I want to use the directory even tough it already exists and if it should change the owner of it?
[21:13] <ari5av> guntbert: that too :)
[21:14] <Mr-Woof> thanks for pointing me in the right direction though arisav, If i can just remove my windows head tonight I might give it a go :)
[21:14] <guntbert> ari5av: :)
[21:14] <ari5av> no problem
[21:14] <josilinux> Alguém fala português?
[21:14] <ari5av> ha, I was right
[21:14] <guntbert> sharddeddx: disconnected again?
[21:15] <guntbert> ari5av: ;-)
[21:15] <ari5av> reiterating my question:  libxi6 just updated this weekend and my sound devices disappeared.  how can I revert to an earlier version?  can't apt-get remove because all of gnome depends on it
[21:15] <Mr-Woof> bye all
[21:15] <josilinux> Try big linux
[21:15] <MaT-dg> LordDragon: yeah also got that
[21:16] <guntbert> ari5av: I know that in synaptic you find version-info with every package and you can force a certain version too
[21:16] <ari5av> oooh, that's a point in the right direction, lemme try
[21:18] <njovanov08> does anyone know of free software for linux for streaming stock quotes?
[21:18] <tj33193> i need help how do i compile packages
[21:18] <Jutman> njovanov08, RSS?
[21:18] <Scunizi> !compile | tj33193
[21:18] <pchelka> hi all
[21:18] <njovanov08> what is rss?
[21:19] <Jutman> Scunizi, is there a list of those commands, or do you just remember them?
[21:19] <ari5av> guntbert: worked, thanks :)
[21:19] <Scunizi> njovanov08: there are a couple of packages in the repos including one when you click a task bar and choose "add".. but I've never been able to get them to work
[21:19] <ari5av> njovanov08: you'll smack me.  Really Simple Syndication
[21:19] <Scunizi> Jutman: I just remember them..
[21:19] <guntbert> ari5av: you are welcome :-)
[21:19] <Jutman> Scunizi, alright
[21:20] <pchelka> umm guys a quick question can i make ubuntu PC with two ethernet cardsa a gateway for another pc ? | the thing is that WAN ethernet card hasto be set up by cabel modem dhcp....
[21:20] <ari5av> njovanov08: it's for things like a newsfeed, or a twitter feed, a constantly-updating stream of individual pieces of information
[21:20] <Scunizi> Jutman: there is a list though.. someone gave me a link a year ago or so.. I can never remember it.
[21:20] <njovanov08> constantly updating stream
[21:20] <njovanov08> preferably with company porfolios
[21:20] <njovanov08> portfolios*
[21:21] <njovanov08> i have gnucash and I heard you can upload certain stock quotes
[21:21] <ari5av> but you're looking for one specifically that streams stocks... yahoo's got a ticker, I think
[21:21] <njovanov08> but i am more interested in something like the fxcm software
[21:21] <ari5av> or cnn, or msnbc, or whatever
[21:21] <guntbert> !ics | pchelka, do you want
[21:21] <ari5av> toss their rss feeds into an rss reader
[21:21] <njovanov08> yes i am aware of the websites that offer such services
[21:21] <Scunizi> Jutman: I used the bot to find the bot info.. :)  check this out..https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[21:21] <njovanov08> I was wondering if there is an application
[21:22] <Jutman> Scunizi, I just found that ha ha
[21:22] <ari5av> tons of em.  google for an rss reader.
[21:22] <tz00> o_O
[21:22] <Thingymebob> njovanov08: Have you tried the gnome applet invest, it should be in the default install just right click your panel and select add to panel then pick invest.
[21:22] <Scunizi> How do I grep for the version number of the nvidia driver I'm currently using?
[21:22] <pchelka> ok thx il check it out for the time being all HOWTO ware build aroud fixed IPs on eth0 and eth1
[21:22] <njovanov08> I havent tried that yet. Thank you for the advice Thingymebob
[21:22] <Rudd-O> hey guys.  every few minutes, i get three approx 150 byte packets that appear to have a common binary header and some more garbage, on the UDP port 30626.  what gives?
[21:22] <pchelka> all that i read
[21:23] <tz00> ari5av: google reader is the best one. Alos you can use any email client
[21:23] <tz00> *Also
[21:23] <Scunizi> ari5av: there's also Liferea which I think is in the repos
[21:24] <ari5av> there we are then
[21:24] <Raydiation> is the ext4 fs save in 9.04?
[21:24] <Raydiation> is there still data loss at crashes?
[21:25] <snakdoc> hey i have been reading came across this  http://www.thirdmartini.com/index.php/WebPidgin could that be ran on a server ?
[21:25] <snakdoc> i didn't think it could since i don't have gnome enviroment to setup pidgin
[21:26] <frojnd> Hello there. Every time when I shutdown ubuntu laptop beeps and that's annyoing. How can I disable all the beeps permanently?  For a temporary removal, use modprobe -r pcspkr
[21:32] <Jutman> dAnon, you're just being a prick.
[21:32] <Jutman> I forgot, there's a difference.
[21:32] <frojnd> Jutman: modprobe it is :) thanx
[21:32] <synackfin> does anyone know how to change the source IP when running `telnet` ?
[21:32] <frojnd> but I'll use it blacklisted..
[21:32] <frojnd> gn8
[21:32] <Jutman> frojnd, that'll only work until you reboot but if you blacklist it won't get added when you reboot
[21:33] <Jutman> synackfin, as in... the ip address you're coming from? Why does that matter?
[21:33] <joaopinto> synackfin, you can't change your source ip, you can only use a proxy so that the connection is not established directly from yur system
[21:34] <dAnon> Jutman no it's linux that is a prick to use, I had to take a notebook so I can read what to do when being in console mode
[21:34] <Paddy_EIRE> Hey I have been trying to get my mobile broadband dongle working on ubuntu jaunty its the (ZTE MF627) I have tried this guide post 1 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6509188 to no success I now get this error every time I use apt-get http://paste.ubuntu.com/206524/
[21:34] <dAnon> this blows so much cock
[21:34] <Pricey> dAnon: Please watch the language.
[21:35] <dAnon> the resolution won't save for me
[21:35] <joaopinto> !ops
[21:35] <dAnon> pricey
[21:35] <dAnon> are you a bot?
[21:35] <DBO> what is it joaopinto
[21:35] <synackfin> jutman: every other unix utility on earth allows the ability to change the IP address, I don't understand why telnet doesn't.  Ping has -I, traceroute has -i
[21:35] <Pricey> joaopinto: I'm here.
[21:35] <Pricey> DBO: See above.
[21:35] <dAnon> nvm
[21:35] <joaopinto> he is repeating himself
[21:36] <topramen_> does anyone know anthing about these people here?> http://paste.ubuntu.com/206522/
[21:36] <synackfin> jutman: the server is multihomed, and certain connections must be established from certain IP addresses.  I need a quick way to specify to `telnet` what I can already specify to ping and traceroute
[21:36] <joaopinto> topramen_, how is that related to ubuntu support ?
[21:36] <slak3> any brazilian?
[21:36] <DBO> Im just going to read for a bit and make sure nothing bad happens =)
[21:36] <Jutman> synackfin, never had the need to do that with telnet, sorry. Maybe set up a local ssh tunnel? kind of kludgey, but might work
[21:36] <synackfin> joaopinto: you can change your source ip... the machine has multiple ethernet cards and multiple ip addresses
[21:37] <Jutman> synackfin, for maybe set up a new route?
[21:37] <joaopinto> synackfin, ah, multiple cards, that's a difference story
[21:37] <topramen_> joaopinto: well that's what i'm trying to find out because i been here all day and I dont know why these people are showing up in my pc
[21:37] <synackfin> jutman: I have source-based routing.  The routing table is based on the sourceIP
[21:37] <Pricey> !br | slak3
[21:39] <crashanddie> !repeat | Kuifje111
[21:39] <dAnon> how do I get back from console mode?
[21:40] <petllama> start x
[21:40] <Pricey> dAnon: ctrla+l++F7
[21:40] <tonii> synackfin: man telnet, -b is your friend
[21:40] <Pricey> dAnon: ctrl+alt++F7 sorry
[21:40] <dAnon> thx
[21:40] <n1ght> is there some way to make global hotkeys in ubuntu? i want to control xmms2 while im playing enemy territory. i once had something installed for it. but it didnt work and i forgot the name of the program
[21:40] <dAnon> why does simple installing gpu driver look that terrible:
[21:40] <dAnon> http://kaka.ovh.org/howto/nvidia_drivers/
[21:41] <dAnon> instead of double clicking an application, next, next, finnish
[21:41] <dAnon> I don't get it
[21:42] <Pricey> dAnon: The restricted drivers manager handles it all for you. Don't install from 3rd party sources.
[21:42] <dAnon> 3rd party?
[21:42] <dAnon> drivers are from nvidia
[21:42] <Jutman> dAnon, completely different operating system
[21:42] <Jutman> dAnon, Pricey is referring to the ones that are pre-built for Ubuntu
[21:42] <MrHeavy> Oh man you're good at this
[21:42] <dAnon> dunno how to install these
[21:42] <zamba> dAnon: first of all, it's in polish, install tutorials are generally written in english :)
[21:43] <dAnon> I've got this *.run file
[21:43] <dAnon> and there appears to be a problem running it
[21:44] <joaopinto> dAnon, have you tried to use the drivers from the repositories ? That is the recommended procedure
[21:44] <dAnon> can't open, some coding problem
[21:44] <joaopinto> dAnon, you need to be more specific, what does not open ? Can you go into the hardware drivers dialog from the system menu ?
[21:45] <dAnon> I've downloaded some drivers (the open ones)
[21:45] <nostradamus1971> how can i join the crunchnang chat?
[21:45] <dAnon> and they won't save the resolution
[21:45] <joaopinto> dAnon, the open ones are available from the repositories, you don't need to download from a page
[21:45] <dAnon> + they have shitty performance
[21:45] <joaopinto> have you tried the restrcited ?
[21:45] <dAnon> close > open
[21:45] <savanny1976xpu> how to download blasterball
[21:46] <dAnon> the drivers written by nvidia must be better
[21:46] <dAnon> especially that I can't run a thing on these
[21:46] <joaopinto> dAnon, the drivers supplied on the repositories are from NVidia !!!
[21:46] <joaopinto> I mean the restricted ones
[21:46] <joaopinto> have you installed those from the repository ?
[21:46] <Jutman> dAnon, the drivers ARE written by nvidia, but the restricted drivers manager installs and configures them for you. I'm running a dual monitor set up right now on the NVidia drivers.
[21:46] <savanny1976xpu> blatserball?????????????
[21:46] <joaopinto> savanny1976xpu, what is blasterball ?
[21:47] <savanny1976xpu> it is a videogame
[21:47] <savanny1976xpu> lot of fun
[21:47] <dAnon> something is wrong then
[21:47] <Hugo69> Bonjour à tous !
[21:48] <joaopinto> savanny1976xpu, if it's a windows only game, better ask on the wine channel
[21:48] <jshsu> I got my sound to show in /proc/asound/cards but not in aplay -l, can anyone help?
[21:48] <joaopinto> !wine | savanny1976xpu
[21:48] <savanny1976xpu> thank you joaopinto
[21:49] <anon__> Why is it possible to use drivers for my ATI Radeon 9550 on Ubuntu 8.xx, but not on 9.04?
[21:49] <jshsu> I got my sound to show in /proc/asound/cards but not in aplay -l, can anyone help?
[21:50] <topramen_> Can Anyone Tell Me What Are Hostmasks?<<<
[21:50] <joaopinto> anon__, because AMD/ATI removed supported for older models
[21:50] <Jimmio> anon__: I'm not sure. The thing with older Nvidia cards may or may not apply. The driver isn't supported anymore. Sorry.
[21:51] <joaopinto> topramen_, depends on the context, usually something like *.host.com, a mask describing a host or set of hosts
[21:51] <cube> hello tomboy wont sync to local folder, what could be the issue?
[21:51] <anon__> Can't I sort of 'downgrade' something so that it does work?
[21:51] <cube> nevermind
[21:51] <Jutman> beat me to it joaopinto, he might also mean the host section of a subnet mask
[21:51] <gangil> Jimmio: but his is ATI , have they removed support from older ATI cards also?
[21:52] <joaopinto> anon__, I don't think so, the oldests drivers will not work with the current Xorg
[21:52] <Jimmio> gangil: I suppose so, if they didn't, it would work wouldn't you think?
[21:52] <joaopinto> gangil, yes they did, on a recent fglrx upgrade
[21:52] <AgileWebDev> What's the best IRC client?
[21:52] <joaopinto> !best | AgileWebDev
[21:52] <anon__> joaopinto, alright, thanks for the info.
[21:52] <AgileWebDev> (or one of them)
[21:52] <Jutman> AgileWebDev, that's a pretty loaded question. :P
[21:52] <AgileWebDev> Haha
[21:52] <joaopinto> I like xchat
[21:53] <AgileWebDev> cool
[21:53] <Jutman> I prefer xchat, or if I'm looking for a terminal based one I use bitchx
[21:53] <AgileWebDev> I will try that
[21:53] <aantn> hello
[21:53] <AgileWebDev> lol
[21:53] <AgileWebDev> kk ty
[21:53] <aantn> what's the recommended fix for repeated freezes with jaunty's intel drivers?
[21:53] <joaopinto> aantn, I believe there is a ppa with newest drivers for intel
[21:54] <aantn> joaopinto: the 2.8 driver mentioned here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance
[21:54] <AgileWebDev> Does anyone like mIRC?
[21:54] <joaopinto> aantn, https://launchpad.net/~intel-gfx-testing/+archive/ppa
[21:54] <pvh_sa> hi! i've FINALLY got X working with my upgrade to 9.04 and there is this thing in the middle of my screen which says "type to search" and it will not go away. what is it and how to i make it vanish?
[21:54] <Jimmio> AgileWebDev: I use Pidgin, works perfect for me, because I also use AIM, MSN, YIM, Google Talk.
[21:54] <Jutman> AgileWebDev, that requires you installing it in Wine or something similar
[21:54] <joaopinto> AgileWebDev, mirc is not for linux, if your question is about windows, try ##windows, or the wine channel
[21:54] <AgileWebDev> Yeah, I use meebo
[21:55] <gangil> AgileWebDev: it's not what others like , use what you like , mostly all are the same
[21:55] <AgileWebDev> kk, ty
[21:55] <aantn> joaopinto: should I use that instead of deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main ?
[21:55] <mephisto_> quit
[21:55] <joaopinto> aantn, no idea, I am not using intel, I am just giving you some pointers :)
[21:56] <joaopinto> doesn't xorg-edgers include other non driver upgrades ? like general xorg upgrades ?
[21:56] <julio> alguien que hable español??
[21:56] <aantn> joaopinto: ok, thanks
[21:56] <joaopinto> !es | julio
[21:56] <aantn> joaopinto: I think so
[21:56] <ZummiG777> Question: Under Ubuntu 9.04 it appears that mv is somehow different - it looks like it is a copy / delete vs. just a plain mv.  Is there a way to set it to act like the old style mv?
[21:56] <aantn> joaopinto: the driver you mentioned would also be 2.8, correct?
[21:57] <joaopinto> ZummiG777, if you refer to the command line mv, it was not changed
[21:57] <Jimmio> Does anyone know if the Nvidia drivers support hardware CUDA/PhysX? My card supports it, I just wondered if it was offered by Nvidia's Linux driver.
[21:57] <joaopinto> ZummiG777, and mv between different file system is a copy/delete
[21:58] <ZummiG777> AH!  My home area is encrypted so I can see why that would occur.
[21:58] <joaopinto> ZummiG777, ah, that is a big difference :)
[21:58] <dAnon> I am close to give up
[21:58] <dAnon> got this driver version 180
[21:59] <dAnon> and everytime I reboot it falls back to 1024 resolution
[21:59] <hitman> What are the legal implications to selling devices with proprietary hardware and software running on ubuntu?
[21:59] <joaopinto> dAnon, you may need to manually setup a modeline, I don't have any experience with nvidia drivers/manual help settings to help you
[22:00] <micka28> hello
[22:00] <joaopinto> hitman, there is no restrictions related to hardware when distribution ubuntu, as for software, it will depend on how you distribute it, the software on the ubuntu media needs to be distributed according to the specific licenses
[22:01] <philip> good evening @ all. I have a question. Is anyone from germany here? Ore is anyone here who wants to help me?
[22:01] <joaopinto> !de ! philip
[22:01] <Thingymebob1> !ask | philip
[22:01] <joaopinto> !de | philip
[22:02] <ZummiG777> joaopinto: On a second front - I've been using TinyCA under 8.04 for SSL key generation but under 9.04 I'm getting errors about file names too long.  Is there a way to increase the general maximum file name size?
[22:03] <philip> Ok. My first problem is, that i can't start "ushare" on my Xubuntu (9.04). I need it for the connection to my xbox 360
[22:03] <knolle> k
[22:03] <n1ght> philip: join RAUTEubuntu-de
[22:03] <joaopinto> ZummiG777, filename sizes are filesystem related, it depends on the type of FS that you are using
[22:03] <utu> Hmm anybody knows if kwin/xfwm4/metacity let's you minimize screen while playing OpenGL/SDL game, e.g. ALT + TAB on Windows? I have to shutdown an app to take a peek at desktop.
[22:03] <ZummiG777> OK
[22:03] <helo> i'm running jaunty, and my laptop's pc speaker volume is reset to maximum volume and unmuted every time i reboot
[22:04] <helo> i was wearing my ehad phones, and pressed the wrong key, and "BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!"
[22:04] <helo> my coworker across the room wearing headphones of his own heard it
[22:04] <Jimmio> philip: Google? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=632428
[22:05] <helo> this has happened several times... i'm sure at this point it is causing a non-negligible amount of hearing damage... is there some way to guarantee that all volumes will be at minimum levels on boot?
[22:05] <hitman> thx joaopinto; the software will only distributed as part of a device that contains the hardware
[22:05] <joaopinto> helo, check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/linux/+bug/331589 , there should be a workaround there
[22:05] <helo> i don't even care if it remembers my settings, i just want the beep to not deafen me
[22:06] <BoGuS_UA> i have a problem with gedit. i'm using file browser on side panel plugin and everithing is fine except one thing: i can't see ini files there. why this happend?
[22:06] <joaopinto> hitman, I am not a lawer, but I am not aware of any restrictions on distributing ubuntu with other comercial software preinstalled on some hardware
[22:06] <Polux_> somebody has the LIRC installed for the Media Center Remote control (mceusb)... I need help
[22:07] <joaopinto> hitman, just make sure you dont have multiverse repository packages, as those may be illegal on certain countries
[22:08] <hitman> thanks again for the advice, joaopinto
[22:10] <Thingymebob1> helo: set you vol levels then in a terminal type alsactl store
[22:10] <Thingymebob1> *your
[22:10] <Polux_> when I do the command line (irw) i get this:connect: No such file or directory
[22:11] <_hubar_> hmm question, how do I see what my last apt-get update had upgraded?
[22:11] <helo> Thingymebob1: i've tried that
[22:11] <helo> it ignores the changes across reboots
[22:11] <Thingymebob1> Ah!
[22:11] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  When I run 'eject' or press the button on my dvd drive, the drive lamp blinks ~3 times, then nothing happens.  How do I eject my CD?
[22:12] <th0r> jonaskoelker: try 'eject /dev/cdrom' in a terminal
[22:12] <dAnon> why can't I run like 90% of games
[22:12] <shaullx> i cant run any game under wine..
[22:12] <sheep96783> because it's linux
[22:12] <dAnon> wine should run them, but it does not
[22:12] <jonaskoelker> th0r: same lack of results
[22:12] <doink1212> go to #winehq
[22:13] <sheep96783> wine can't do most things
[22:13] <th0r> jonaskoelker: but did it say anything, give any error indication?
[22:13] <jonaskoelker> dAnon: well, there's your anwser: because wine doesn't work 100% yet
[22:13] <doink1212> or check the website
[22:13] <jonaskoelker> th0r: nope, none
[22:13] <shaullx> wine just won't start any directx game im trying to start even the winhq site says it works
[22:13] <shaullx> im using jaunty 64bit btw
[22:13] <th0r> jonaskoelker: then I would try a pin in the hardware release
[22:13] <dAnon> it loads for a while at the bar
[22:13] <sheep96783> why did i come here?
[22:13] <hilikus> does anyone know of an app that will let me run scripts based on the wireless network i am in? i want to change /etc/hosts and do a couple of other things when i am in my home network but not on any other
[22:13] <shaullx> i have the same problem as dAnon
[22:14] <doink1212> well go to #winehq if its a problem with wine, they have their own channel
[22:14] <doink1212> they will probably tell you to use the prelease version
[22:14] <_hubar_> hmm question, how do I see what my last apt-get update had upgraded?
[22:15] <hilikus> how do i remove some drives from nautilus. it give me the option to mount them
[22:16] <doink1212> I configured ubuntu incorrectly when configuring my cellphone - usb plug, how do i remove the settings?
[22:17] <UbNoob> Hi everyone.   When I try to watch a YouTube video, it takes literally, 2 to 3 minutes before the video even starts.  Can I speed this up somehow?  Some setting I can tweak?    Using Ubuntu 9.04, firefox 3.0.11
[22:18] <jonaskoelker> UbNoob: try downloading the video with youtube-dl (and playing it with mplayer)
[22:18] <jonaskoelker> UbNoob: is it still slow?
[22:19] <jonaskoelker> th0r: hmm... this sounds bad: i power cycle, and try opening the drive while in grub.  No luck
[22:19] <Thingymebob1> helo; can you can confirm you have both /etc/rc0.d/k50alsa-utils, /etc/rc6.d/k50alsa-utils and /etc/rcS.d/s50alsa-utils
[22:19] <doink1212> How do i reset my cellphone settings on ubuntu?
[22:19] <th0r> jonaskoelker: I suspect the drive is just stuck, that is why I suggested the pin
[22:20] <jonaskoelker> th0r: I tried a piece of guitar string, that didn't work
[22:20] <jonaskoelker> I don't think I have a pin :D
[22:20] <w3rd_> anybody know of a good fee based anon web proxy service
[22:20] <th0r> jonaskoelker: a paperclip?
[22:20] <jrib> !ot | w3rd_
[22:20] <amicrawler2008> where is this found in 9.04 now Edit /etc/modules.conf
[22:20] <jonaskoelker> an [instrument-for-drawing-circles]
[22:21] <jonaskoelker> "compass"?
[22:21] <mezquitale> anyone here uses freeNX??? I cant connect to my freenx server, my login is denied.  I am using custom SSH Key.   Do I have to own the key generated by: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure freenx-server"
[22:21] <amicrawler2008> it is not there any more
[22:21] <amicrawler2008> i want to add lines
[22:22] <amicrawler2008> does any body know it would help me out big time
[22:22] <jonaskoelker> th0r: how's it supposed to work?  I insert a pointy object in the hole, then what?
[22:22] <th0r> jonaskoelker: if you insert a pin or some such you should feel it contact the release, and the drive should just pop open when you push on the release. Shouldn't take much force...just a gentle nudge
[22:22] <vampirecheese> foo?
[22:23] <th0r> jonaskoelker: on this laptop for instance, sometimes the plastic faceplate will come loose and twist a little, just enough to keep the drive from opening....same problem as you describe
[22:24] <zsquareplusc> does someone know what tool ubuntu uses to render thumbnails of SVG images?
[22:24] <LiraNuna> sudo is mean - those are strings from the executable - http://pastie.org/528582
[22:25] <bastidrazor> !ot | LiraNuna
[22:25] <LiraNuna> sorry,
[22:25] <amicrawler2008> where is this found in 9.04 now modules.conf
[22:26] <amicrawler2008> does any body know it would help me out big time
[22:26] <Harryy> Hi. How would I set Ubuntu to use GMT+0 as the default system time? I have /etc/default/rcS UTC=yes, but it still shows my local time (GMT -5) :S
[22:26] <bastidrazor> amicrawler2008, isn't /etc/modules what you're needing?
[22:27] <ManDay> How can I let the NetworkManager know about a modem device (a rfcomm-port in my case) which it doesnt initially know about?
[22:27] <jonaskoelker> th0r: when I stick my circle-drawing-instrument in the little hole, it feels like it runs against a plastic lump or plate...
[22:27] <mezquitale> anyone here used freeNX???  I'm trying to find out where to custom key I generated on the client and on the server
[22:27] <jonaskoelker> th0r: something hard and not very button-like, pushable, ...
[22:27] <th0r> amicrawler2008: check /etc/modules
[22:27] <Raydiation> where can i see which arch im using?
[22:27] <amicrawler2008> i did not there
[22:27] <seria-mau> someone knows what dependencies are needed to run alien arena 2009? it just segfaults here...
[22:27] <jrib> Raydiation: uname -m
[22:28] <knoppix> some ideas how skynet operates?
[22:28] <Raydiation> jrib: ty, how could i forget abou that
[22:28] <th0r> amicrawler2008: what are you looking for?
[22:28] <amicrawler2008> i want to add a line of code
[22:28] <amicrawler2008> so my web cam boots up
[22:29] <th0r> amicrawler2008: just add the modules to the list in /etc/modules
[22:29] <th0r> amicrawler2008: if it requires something besides the loading of a module, put the code in .bashrc or .profile
[22:30] <rayno_b> hi there, I am trying to install libvirt, but it appears that my cpu does not support hardware virtualization.  I've checked the bios and there is nothing to be enabled there unfortunately.  do i have any other workaround? I didn't realise that virtualisation requires specific hardware.
[22:30] <Thingymebob1> helo: if your still here, can you can confirm you have both /etc/rc0.d/k50alsa-utils, /etc/rc6.d/k50alsa-utils and /etc/rcS.d/s50alsa-utils
[22:31] <Raydiation> lol
[22:31] <Raydiation> i dont have sound when the login sound is too long
[22:31] <Raydiation> i hate those pulseaudio issues
[22:32] <dr_dasos> is there a utility w/ ubuntu that will turn a directory of pictures into an html page with thumbnails?
[22:33] <usr13> dr_dasos: I guess gthumb does something like that...
[22:33] <dr_dasos> usr13, k, i'll look into it, thanks
[22:34] <th0r> dr_dasos: album shaper
[22:35] <carlos_> YO
[22:35] <carlos_> is there anybody here
[22:35] <carlos_> I AM SCARED....lol
[22:36] <sebsebseb> carlos_: hello
[22:36] <carlos_> wazzup
[22:36] <char00les> hi
[22:36] <Thingymebob1> carlos_: There's 1400 of us, how can we help?
[22:36] <carlos_> i really dont need help
[22:36] <carlos_> i am just bored
[22:36] <carlos_> XD
[22:36] <Thingymebob1> 8-)
[22:36] <sebsebseb> carlos_: ok try #ubuntu-offtopic then
[22:37] <Stanley_> I'm trying to mount hard drive with a windows installation and it's saing "ntfs_attr_pread_i: ntfs_pread failed: Input/output error Failed to read $attrdef, unexpected length (-1 != 2560) ect....
[22:37] <Stanley_> Is there any trick to this? I dont' want to open in windows as it's full of viruses
[22:37] <carlos_> as a matter of fact i do have a question
[22:37] <carlos_> you see
[22:38] <sebsebseb> Stanley_: if you didn't unmount it in Windows, then you can get an issue
[22:38] <sebsebseb> Stanley_: there is some sort of fource  mount  NTFS partitions in Linux though, but not sure what
[22:38] <carlos_> i installed ubuntu on my computer and my computer has LAN included
[22:38] <carlos_> when i tried turning it on
[22:38] <carlos_> it wouldnt work
[22:38] <sebsebseb> Stanley_: force mount above
[22:38] <Blinkiz> Hi, am looking for a GUI or a command line utility that can display what process is using my Internet connection and how much bandwidth the process using. Does it exist?
[22:38] <mattalexx> I love Gnome's Disk Usage Analyser. Is there any way I can have the same kind of overview from du on my headless server?
[22:39] <mezquitale> !ask | carlos
[22:39] <Rabbitbunny> So... I've installed cvs and cvsweb, However, I use webmin, so setting up cvs was done for me. I need to tell cvsweb where the repos are, I'm not doing well at this. I also need to figure out where cvsweb is and how to get it to VirtualServer/cvs/ , Hints?
[22:39] <Stanley_> sebsebseb: force mount... i'll google it thanks
[22:39] <rickest> Blinkiz: iptraf.  google that and you're find others
[22:39] <Rabbitbunny> mattalexx: ssh -X, ssh does X forwarding.
[22:39] <sebsebseb> Stanley_: np
[22:39] <jrib> Rabbitbunny: people still use cvs?
[22:39] <carlos_> ok thanks =]
[22:39] <Rabbitbunny> jrib: I'm looking for easy install, not features.
[22:39] <mezquitale> carlos_, cambiale la fuente de poder en tu computadora, proxima pregunta
[22:39] <mattalexx> You mean I can load a Gnome session in my WinXP workstation?
[22:39] <rickest> Blinkiz: actually, iptraf does LANs, not pids on a single machine. still, google that and 'sniffers' for more results
[22:39] <mattalexx> How would I go about doing that?
[22:40] <carlos_> orale
[22:40] <sebsebseb> mattalexx: not natively
[22:40] <carlos_> solo cambio la fuente de poder
[22:40] <jrib> Rabbitbunny: just seems like subversion, and dvcs like git, bzr, darcs, and hg have taken over
[22:40] <mattalexx> I have an Ubuntu VM that's on the network, would that work?
[22:40] <sebsebseb> mattalexx: there is a way to get Gnome running with Cygwin I think,   also Linux virtual machines,  but Windows as host  not the best idea
[22:40] <Rabbitbunny> jrib: I'm sure they have, but I use ubuntu for a reason, It's not because I like .conf files.
[22:40] <Rabbitbunny> mattalexx: Yes.
[22:41] <sebsebseb> mattalexx: vm's can be networked together depending on the vm software your using
[22:41] <mezquitale> carlos_, el power supply,  intenta prender la computadora y fijate si el abanico funciona en el power supply
[22:41] <mattalexx> Virtualbox
[22:41] <hilikus> how do i run a command after connecting to a wireless network BASED ON THE NETWORK?
[22:41] <sebsebseb> mattalexx: yeah should be able to do it with that
[22:41] <mattalexx> Actually I think I have a VMware WS Ubuntu VM around here somewhere too.
[22:41] <fedorauser162> i can see the wireless network but when i try to connect to it i get this error "/etc/network/interfaces:28:duplicate option
[22:41] <fedorauser162> /sbin/ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces""  then "operation failed"   any ideas?
[22:41] <sebsebseb> mattalexx: go to #vbox and ask them :)
[22:42]  * mobi-sheep growls and ponder how he could get his Bluetooth mouse back after idling away from the laptop.
[22:42] <jrib> Rabbitbunny: webmin isn't even supported on ubuntu
[22:42] <jrib> !webmin | Rabbitbunny
[22:42] <Rabbitbunny> jrib: It's in the repos, and I don't need help with Webmin, just cvs and cvsweb
[22:42] <th0r> fedorauser162: are you trying to bring up the network with ifup?
[22:42] <Rabbitbunny> and I don't like ebox.
[22:42] <jrib> Rabbitbunny: what version of ubuntu is this?
[22:42] <Rabbitbunny> 8.04
[22:42] <Blinkiz> rickest, Thanks for the suggestions. iptraf seems not to be what am looking for. "iftop" is better i believe. You say sniffer. That's also in TCP/IP level and not application level. Or?
[22:43] <fedorauser162> th0r, with the gui so i think so
[22:43] <mattalexx> sebsebseb, Is this something I do from the login screen?
[22:43] <sebsebseb> mattalexx: don't think so
[22:43] <sebsebseb> mattalexx: don't know
[22:43] <jrib> Rabbitbunny: webmin is not in hardy repositories.  What repositories are you using?
[22:44] <Blinkiz> rickest, iptraf was a nice program. Finding all sorts of nice statistics in this program. Anyway, its not what am looking for
[22:44] <th0r> fedorauser162: network manager doesn't use the file /etc/network/interfaces. I think if you want to fall back to the old way of doing things (ifup and ifdown) you will have to uninstall network manager and set up the interfaces file
[22:44] <rickest> Blinkiz: yeah, I knew iptraf was wrong after I said it  :)  However, when I found iptraf I also found others that worked at the application layer, too, and that's where I meant to direct you
[22:44] <Rabbitbunny> jrib: Look, It's great that you've told me that webmin isn't supported, I don't really care. I have the software, It works. I need help with cvs and cvsweb. I simply mentioned webmin in passing.
[22:44] <jrib> Rabbitbunny: it becomes relevant if you aren't using official repositories
[22:45] <char00les> Having proxy problems. I already created ftp_proxy and http_proxy in the bash.bashrc. When I do sudo apt-get update. It works. But when i use pidgin or dropbox or the GUI package manager, it does work and gives by a proxy error. Have any idea?
[22:45] <Rabbitbunny> jrib: No it doesn't.
[22:45] <pepperjack> a
[22:45] <jrib> Rabbitbunny: good luck with your issue
[22:45] <Rabbitbunny> jrib: Thanks :D
[22:46] <rickest> Blinkiz: nethogs, tcpick, tcpflow and again, if neither are those are exactly what you need, googling them and "compared to" will certainly find others
[22:46] <ethereality> How do I input terminal commands to execute one after the other, sequentially? (I want to put them on one line.)
[22:46] <jrib> ethereality: ;
[22:46] <ethereality> Is it something like "cd [folder] | ftp"? jrib: it's ";" not "|"?
[22:46] <Blinkiz> rickest, okay, nice. Yeah, finding something here. NetHogs for example.
[22:47] <jrib> ethereality: command1; command2 ...
[22:47] <Blinkiz> rickest, oh, there came your post. Thanks for the suggestions :)
[22:47] <rickest> Blinkiz: yeah, I think that's the only one I sent that's close to what you're looking for
[22:47] <ethereality> Great, thanks! :)
[22:47] <Lamo> stuck in a dep hell with ksplice ksplice-uptrack: Depends: python-yaml but it is not going to be installed <--along with other packages that wont install
[22:47] <rickest> Blinkiz: nethogs, I mean
[22:47] <jonaskoelker> grrr....
[22:48] <mobi-sheep> Is Ubuntu easy?  Can my raptors install it too? :3
[22:48] <Rabbitbunny> mobi-sheep: Mine can, with the keyboard adapter I made.
[22:48] <rrajaratnam> hey guys, I need help with getting sound working on my laptop.
[22:48] <jonaskoelker> mobi-sheep: just write "goto" in your programs, and the raptors will come jumping, wanting to install ubuntu (and eat you)
[22:48] <jonaskoelker> see xkcd.com ;-)
[22:48] <rrajaratnam> I have the volume controls and everything, but no sound.
[22:49] <Myrtti> mobi-sheep: ...
[22:49] <Rabbitbunny> rrajaratnam: tried external speakers yet?
[22:49] <mezquitale> rrajaratnam,  open up alsamixer in a console and turn up the volume
[22:49] <Blinkiz> rickest, Yeaahh, nethogs is displaying bandwidth per process. Thanks rickest :)
[22:49] <jonaskoelker> I'm trying to open stuck cdrom/dvd drive by inserting a 1.5cm pointed object.  Nothing happens when I insert it, except I hit some resistance.  Similarly, nothing happens when I poke deeply with a quite pliable piece of guitar string
[22:49] <jonaskoelker> any tips?
[22:50] <rickest> Blinkiz: awesome, sorry for the run-around but I knew I had the right one in my notes somewhere  lol
[22:50] <rrajaratnam> mezquitale, hey, the volume is up
[22:50] <rrajaratnam> Rabbitbunny, I tried head phones, no joy.
[22:50] <Lamo> http://paste2.org/p/293073
[22:50] <dreamy> does anyone likes to use menu builders ? For making web pages ? what r the nicest ones for linux?
[22:50] <Rabbitbunny> jonaskoelker: pull the drive and flip the top. four screws.
[22:50] <jonaskoelker> I'm about this close |<--1cm-->| from tearing my drive apart :(
[22:51] <mezquitale> rrajaratnam, type this in a console and show me the output:  cat /proc/asound/cards
[22:51] <jonaskoelker> Rabbitbunny: "pull"?  As it, remove it from my laptop?
[22:51] <Rabbitbunny> jonaskoelker: Yup.
[22:51] <rrajaratnam> mezquitale,  0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[22:51] <rrajaratnam>                       HDA Intel at 0xdd000000 irq 22
[22:51] <jonaskoelker> Rabbitbunny: that's something really fun and not complex at all, right? ;-)
[22:51] <acidstorm> hi
[22:52] <Rabbitbunny> jonaskoelker: they come apart quite easily, and once it's out you're halfway to replacing it, unless you want to keep a nonfund drive...
[22:52] <mezquitale> rrajaratnam, now let me see the output of: cat /proc/asound/modules
[22:52] <Titan8990> rrajaratnam, pretty standard
[22:52] <Titan8990> rrajaratnam, uses the snd_hda_intel module
[22:52] <rrajaratnam> mezquitale,  0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[22:52] <rrajaratnam>                       HDA Intel at 0xdd000000 irq 22
[22:52] <acidstorm> i cant do pipe sign can anyone help me ? sorry for my bad english
[22:52] <UbNoob> jonaskoelker - sorry, stepped away.   I'm not sure how to download.
[22:52] <acidstorm> can anyone help me pls
[22:53] <m_tadeu> hi everyone....how can I check determine what is the user id of a user through the command line?
[22:53] <jonaskoelker> UbNoob: I forget--download what?
[22:53] <Stanley_> !ask|acidstorm
[22:53] <mezquitale> rrajaratnam, i can see your soundcard but which module youre using???
[22:53] <ctmjr> acidstorm: you talking about this    |
[22:53] <rrajaratnam> acidstorm, check your /etc/passwd file
[22:53] <mezquitale> m_tadeu, whoami
[22:54] <acidstorm> ok mom pls
[22:54] <rrajaratnam> acidstorm, more /etc/passwd
[22:54] <rrajaratnam> mezquitale, this is a fresh install, i'm not sure what i'm using either.
[22:54] <ENCITE> hi
[22:55] <Gun_Smoke> Can anyone suggest a good Graphing Calculator solution?  Emulation would be fine.  I'm looking for something a bit better than the standard calculator that comes with gnome.
[22:55] <jonaskoelker> grrr....
[22:55] <ENCITE> i need some help
[22:55] <m_tadeu> mezquitale: that only gives the name, not the userid, I guess
[22:55] <mezquitale> rrajaratnam, if you type what I asked you to type earlier you would know, you already know what sound card you have, now you need to see what modules youre using
[22:55] <UbNoob> jonaskoelker:  download a youtube video.  Actually, I found the youtube-dl in the Synaptic Package manager and am applying that.  I've never used it before though.
[22:55] <acidstorm> ok and now ?
[22:55] <rrajaratnam> mezquitale, in the volume control app, it says device hda intel alsa mixer
[22:55] <jonaskoelker> UbNoob: ah
[22:55] <jonaskoelker> UbNoob: that's right
[22:55] <joaopinto> m_tadeu, if you are logged in: id
[22:55] <ENCITE> i just installed ubuntu for server on an old comp i had and i want to run my own ssh
[22:55] <jonaskoelker> UbNoob: copy the url, run the command "youtube-dl <the url>"
[22:55] <jonaskoelker> it's easiest just to paste it
[22:55] <rrajaratnam> mezquitale, 0 snd_hda_intel
[22:55] <joaopinto> m_tadeu, or: id user
[22:55] <ENCITE> i got it all installed and logged in but dno what to do with it now
[22:55] <mezquitale> rrajaratnam, and you cant get sound using what app and output is supposed to come from what speaker?
[22:55] <ENCITE> can anyone help?
[22:56] <m_tadeu> jonaskoelker: ahhh...got it...it worked...thanks guys
[22:56] <Wizzup> How hard would it be to install MPX on ubuntu? Would it request recompiling X? (9.04)
[22:56] <joaopinto> ENCITE, to do with what ?
[22:56] <jonaskoelker> m_tadeu: you meant to thank someone else?
[22:56] <Wizzup> I haven't found much documentation on it yet
[22:56] <ENCITE> i just want to use it for storage and some small hosting
[22:56] <jonaskoelker> m_tadeu: or did I help you without knowing? ;-)
[22:56] <Rabbitbunny> ENCITE: what do you want to do with it?
[22:56] <rrajaratnam> I just opened a audio file in rhythm box
[22:56] <ENCITE> i want to host a blog
[22:57] <Rabbitbunny> ENCITE: okay, so sshfs/scp for you files, apache2 for hosting. simple.
[22:57] <ENCITE> ok
[22:57] <UltraBeatdown> is spam allowed?
[22:57] <mobi-sheep> UltraBeatdown: NO!
[22:57] <rrajaratnam> mezquitale, i'm not getting any system sounds, and nothing from rhythmbox
[22:57] <joaopinto> dumb question
[22:57] <UltraBeatdown> no
[22:57] <UltraBeatdown> i mean ok
[22:57] <m_tadeu> jonaskoelker: you talked about the id command :)
[22:57] <ENCITE> so do i have to get apache2 on a disc to install it?
[22:57] <joaopinto> !help | ENCITE
[22:58] <jonaskoelker> m_tadeu: oh, okay... well, glad I helped :)
[22:58] <lstarnes> ENCITE: no, just download and install the package using sudo apt-get install apache2
[22:58] <Titan8990> ENCITE, package managers
[22:58] <joaopinto> ENCITE, you really need to read some documentation, check the server guide or some server related tutorial
[22:58] <Titan8990> ENCITE, ALWAYS, its the linux way of installing software
[22:58] <Rabbitbunny> ENCITE: google "Ubuntu LAMP Tutorial", there are many steps
[22:58] <joaopinto> Titan8990, not the linux way, the Ubuntu way :)
[22:58] <mezquitale> rrajaratnam,  your sound card is configured correctly, lets test it out, run test: speaker-test -c2 -D default -t wav
[22:59] <Titan8990> joaopinto, there are no (non-live) distros that do not have a package management system
[22:59] <mic_> hi guys!
[22:59] <joaopinto> Titan8990, since when is Linux a distro :) ?
[22:59] <deborah> Hi, could someone tell me how to enable v-sync? sorry to be rude.
[22:59] <lstarnes> Titan8990: there are a couple less well known ones
[22:59] <rrajaratnam> mezquitale, i'm getting no sound, but the command is doing stuff
[23:00] <UbNoob> jonaskoelker:  of course I have to pick a huge video.....it's downloading at the moment....
[23:00] <UltraBeatdown> Whenever I boot, after the loading screen, I'll come to a black backlit screen where I have about a second and a half to bash the keyboard.  If I do, it'll work fine; if I don't, then the screen will go black blank and won't respond to anything
[23:00] <UltraBeatdown> what do i do?
[23:00]  * mobi-sheep sighs at the sheer frustration of configuring bluetooth to work with mouse.
[23:00] <jonaskoelker> UbNoob: you can play it with mplayer while it's downloading
[23:00] <jonaskoelker> UbNoob: the file name is the same as the video ID
[23:00] <mezquitale> rrajaratnam, can you answer the question that i asked you minutes ago, where are you trying to get sound from????  are you using headphones or speakers in a alaptop or what?
[23:00] <LordDragon> anyone ever have luck getting sound to work on a mac mini ?
[23:00] <Titan8990> joaopinto, I am not here it discuss what linux really is... I know its a kernel... but it is also a general term to talk about OSes that run linux kernels and follow certain standards
[23:00] <lesshaste> I was about to upgrade from intrepid to jaunty when it told me there is no fglrx driver for jaunty... what is the situation there?
[23:00] <jonaskoelker> UbNoob: that is, 8 random-looking characters in the URL
[23:00] <rrajaratnam> mezquitale, speakers on a laptop
[23:01] <mdm> Titan8990, I can point you tward many differnt distros, based upn Debians apt and Redhats rpm that are both live from CD, and not.  I can show you ones that run 100% on scripts and have no binaires, run on CF cards and run on just about any storage out there
[23:01] <jonaskoelker> UbNoob: after "v="
[23:01] <joaopinto> Titan8990, not going OT, bye
[23:01] <foomatic> how can i change the group of a folder?
[23:01] <mezquitale> rrajaratnam, then it is highly likely the speakers in your laptop are busted, try using headphones
[23:01] <jonaskoelker> UbNoob: oh, I misspoke, more than 8
[23:01] <joaopinto> foomatic, chgrp
[23:01] <jonaskoelker> foomatic: chown user:group file-or-folder
[23:01] <joaopinto> foomatic, on the terminal: man chgrp
[23:01] <foomatic> joaopinto: ty
[23:01] <Rabbitbunny> UltraBeatdown: you need to press CTRL+ALT+F8 as soon as you can and watch for errors, fix those errors.
[23:01] <mobi-sheep> foomatic: chown :group <file/directory>
[23:01] <mezquitale> rrajaratnam, also try raising the volume on the laptop itself
[23:02] <Stanley_> Can anybody help me force-mount an NTFS drive??
[23:02] <Titan8990> mdm, I am a gentoo user... no binaries here
[23:02] <UltraBeatdown> Rabbitbunny, ok
[23:02] <Titan8990> mdm, but that doesn't mean that there is no package management
[23:02] <rrajaratnam> mezquitale, nothing on headphones either
[23:02] <jonaskoelker> Rabbitbunny: yay, my drive seems to be working again
[23:02] <gartral> why does the sox that comes in the ubuntu distros have the *old* ogg naming scemes/
[23:02] <jonaskoelker> Rabbitbunny: applied violence: it works ;-)
[23:02] <rrajaratnam> mezquitale, i've turned the volume up on the laptop and in the volume controller
[23:02] <joaopinto> Stanley_, what error do you get when you try to mount it ?
[23:02] <ubuntuyo_> it's easy.
[23:02] <Rabbitbunny> jonaskoelker: See? it's flaky, you should replace it. It's fun....
[23:03] <UbNoob> jonaskoelker:   So whatever is after the v8.  I can copy that and play it?  That's a really long file name!
[23:03] <jonaskoelker> Rabbitbunny: yeah, it really had me laughing :\
[23:03] <mdm> Titan8990, I didnt say there wasnt.  Even for the system I have that runs all on perl it has packages
[23:03] <jonaskoelker> ;-)
[23:03] <Stanley_> I'm trying to mount hard drive with a windows installation and it's saing "ntfs_attr_pread_i: ntfs_pread failed: Input/output error Failed to read $attrdef, unexpected length (-1 != 2560) ect....
[23:03] <Titan8990> mdm, the kernel is binary
[23:03] <Stanley_> joaopinto: ^^
[23:03] <Ubee> Does anyone know how I can make my laptop screen brighter?
[23:03] <jonaskoelker> UbNoob: no, from "v=" (that's `vee equals') and a bunch of characters forward
[23:03] <darlek> !ubottu | darlek
[23:03] <joaopinto> Stanley_, that seems to be serious corruption, nothing you will be able to force to mount
[23:03] <jonaskoelker> UbNoob: look at the filename once youtube-dl is finished downloading
[23:04] <jonaskoelker> UbNoob: and compare to the URL.  _that_ part is the video ID ;-)
[23:04] <mezquitale> rrajaratnam, what is the output that youre seeing when you ran the test?
[23:04] <Titan8990> mdm, and i misunderstood, gentoo has binaries, but no binary packages
[23:04] <joaopinto> Stanley_, better check that ntfs partition
[23:04] <mdm> Titan8990, ok if you want to get technical then, there is no linux NONE that is not binary becase technicaly the kernel is linux.  Then again everything it is runniing is called linux and we can arge all day long over what is and what is not
[23:04] <jonaskoelker> UbNoob: for instance, if the URL is "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HIlvzjBpjY&feature=related", then the video ID is 0HIlvzjBpjY
[23:04] <ubuntuyo_> I love a Ubuntu.
[23:04] <Stanley_> joaopinto: any way to do that in linux or do i need to boot to windows? apparently the drive is full of viruses so i'm hesitant to boot into windows even from a different drive
[23:04] <Titan8990> mdm, too much ot
[23:04] <jonaskoelker> UbNoob: and the filename is "the video id.flv"
[23:04] <jonaskoelker> ubuntuyo_: glad to hear it ;-)
[23:04] <joaopinto> Stanley_, windows is most likely to be able to recover an ntfs partition, if possible
[23:05] <joaopinto> Stanley_, it should be safe as long you don't boot and you dont run anything from it
[23:05] <rrajaratnam> mezquitale, http://pastebin.com/d7a9690bd
[23:05] <Stanley_> joaopinto: remember... we _are_ talking about windows.... "should..." is the word of the devil
[23:05] <JMM> fo
[23:05] <ctmjr> mobi-sheep: Do not know if it helps but i have a rocket fish blue tooth keyboard and mouse the dongle it came with did not work very well, i had  a generic one lying around  and it works like a charm
[23:06] <UbNoob> jonaskoelker:  Thank you very much!  I appreciate your help.  I got it to play.  I was looking at the entire URL stream...or whatever it's called, rather than just the file name.
[23:06] <duke_> hi how i can set java environment variable???
[23:06] <ubuntuyo_> jonaskoelker I came from irc.hanirc.org #ubuntu
[23:07] <mobi-sheep> ctmjr: Hmm. It worked.  But when I leave the laptop for awhile and came back.  It just "toggle" off.  (Insert sad face here).
[23:07] <mezquitale> rrajaratnam, it looks like the hardware is configured correctly, i suggest shutting down all sound appz like rhythmbox and firefox and try the test again
[23:07] <jonaskoelker> UbNoob: you're welcome :)
[23:07] <epaphus> Hello, could I specify the mirror that the update manager uses ??
[23:07] <epaphus> manually
[23:07] <jonaskoelker> ubuntuyo_: cool.  "hanirc"---is that korean?
[23:08] <jonaskoelker> epaphus: if I understand what you want: yes.  You can edit /etc/apt/sources.list, or look at the "software sources" control panel thing...
[23:08] <rrajaratnam> mezquitale, only apps I have running now are pidgn, terminal, & xchat
[23:08] <ubuntuyo_> right.
[23:08] <jonaskoelker> epaphus: may be in the system->administration menu
[23:08] <deborah> does nayone know how to turn v-sync on?
[23:08] <rrajaratnam> mezquitale, test is still the same, no sound
[23:08] <UbNoob> jonaskoelker:  Is there some reference somewhere with command line, uh, commands?
[23:08] <derenrich> UbNoob: yes
[23:08] <jonaskoelker> UbNoob: probably many ;-)  your google-fu is as good as mine I guess
[23:09] <duke_> test 123 maybe im blocked hello just say something dont know if im really on line
[23:09] <ubuntuyo_> jonaskoelker I'm a korean. so I cann't understand a lot what they are saying.
[23:09] <rrajaratnam> mezquitale, can it be sound kind of permission error on a file, or do i need to be in a group?
[23:09] <mdm> UbNoob, are you asking if there is a refernce for your shell?
[23:09] <deborah> duke, yes you are
[23:09] <mrmental> qe2eqe: You there?
[23:09] <mezquitale> rrajaratnam, i suggest you go to #alsa when people are there, maybe someone can help you but from what weve done so far it looks like everything is working fine, you just have to raise up the volume
[23:09] <duke_> okay
[23:09] <UbNoob> mdm:  yes.  sorry...I'm obviously a noob and don't know the correct terms.
[23:09] <jonaskoelker> UbNoob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[23:09] <CaptainMorgan> !man
[23:10] <mezquitale> rrajaratnam, it sounds like you dont have the volume up, your sound card is configured and it does the test correctly yet no sound
[23:10] <mdm> UbNoob, thats only because there is more then one shell.    However I can't read the root dir from that drive but can see my /home dir just fine.  How to see a logfile of the programs I had installed on the previous ubuntu system?
[23:11] <mrmental> So I am trying to dual boot Xp and Ubuntu, I have Xp installed first
[23:11] <terinjokes> hey, I'm repairing a Vista computer that is owned by a nice old lady, who managed to get her NTFS partition in an unmountable state – is there a way to force the NTFS partition to mount, even if in an unstable state (I need to get her vacation pictures off)
[23:11] <jonaskoelker> ubuntuyo_: isn't there #ubuntu-kr ?
[23:11] <jonaskoelker> ubuntuyo_: oh, apparently not
[23:11] <Rabbitbunny> mdm, frische; Wow. That would have helped me so much.
[23:11] <mrmental> I am to the point in the installation where I am partitioning everything
[23:12] <ubuntuyo_> #ubuntu
[23:12] <deborah> duke, please view this forum post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2793 is that what you were looking for?
[23:12] <UbNoob> Have a good night everyone.
[23:12] <darlek> !kr
[23:12] <ctmjr> !kn
[23:12] <rayno_b2> Hi there, if the grep command to test if cpu supports hardware virtualization returns nothing - do I have any other option to still run virtualization?
[23:12] <terinjokes> ntfs-3g complains that the NTFS partition was left in a bad state, and to run chkdsk from Windows (which, um, doesn't boot)
[23:13] <jezlee> anyone get "HDA Intel-STAC92xx" sound chip working in 9.04 - I Googled for hours and could not...
[23:13] <duke_> this better: http://vietpad.sourceforge.net/javaonlinux.html   but thx
[23:13] <bastidrazor> terinjokes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery   may help.. it has a force option when mounting the drive
[23:13] <frische> boot from the vista dvd and run chkdsk from there
[23:13] <mdm> rayno_b, yes you can still do it fully in hardware, if it does not support virtualization you may need to enable it in bios
[23:13] <mrmental> I chose to go with the first option (Guided- resize SCS|1 (0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) and use free space). I use the slider to get where I want it, and click next
[23:13] <deborah> sure, I am just trying to find out how to turn vsync on, anyone...
[23:14] <terinjokes> frische: i tried – from Command Prompt: "Unable to determine volume version and state. CHKDSK aborted."
[23:14] <rayno_b2> mdm - I checked the bios, but it doesn't seem like I have such an option?
[23:14] <duke_> i thought maybe i get blocked from server or something magican desnt know asking here all the time never get a answer... :/
[23:14] <mdm> rayno_b, you may need to flash it, why do you think your system does nto support hardware virtualizaiton?
[23:14] <darlek> how to play just a reg dvd?  tried ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:14] <mrmental> Get a box that says 'Please Wait' has a progress bar under it and then says 'resizing partition' under that. It is stuck at 0%...
[23:14] <rayno_b2> mdm - do you mind if I pvt you?
[23:14] <deborah> ok, well. google for hours here I come. llol
[23:15] <mrmental> Anybody able to help?
[23:15] <mdm> rayno_b, no, everyne else does
[23:15] <mobi-sheep> !dvd | dar
[23:15] <mobi-sheep> darlek: See ^^
[23:15] <ubuntuyo_> I love a Ubuntu of compiz affects.
[23:15] <darlek> mobi-sheep, tried that, you load ubuntu-restricted-extras but that did n't do it
[23:16] <Rabbitbunny> Uh... cvsweb wasn't what I wanted..  Is there something _like_ cvs that doesn't require a client? I want to do the whole shebang via http.
[23:16] <darlek> mobi-sheep, when I used an upgraded machine I had all my stuff from 8.10 and such, but I'm on a new Jaunty install and it doesn't play dvd movies out of the box
[23:16] <xeer> I have compiled a newer version of libglib2.0-0 and it broke a symbol in libgio2.0, how can I revert to the standard libglib2.0 without uninstalling my system?!
[23:16] <darlek> grr
[23:17] <mobi-sheep> darlek: You read this too already?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[23:17] <darlek> mobi-sheep, i'll try it now
[23:17] <xeer> apt-get remove libglib2.0-0 wants to remove over 1 gig of packages.. I DON'T WANT THAT!!
[23:17] <xeer> I simply want to regress to an older version..
[23:18] <ubuntuyo_> I wish Ubuntu will be a Standard OS of the world.
[23:18] <darlek> mobi-sheep, I was on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats, so close ;)
[23:18] <lstarnes> xeer: those packages require libglib2.0-0
[23:18] <xeer> lstarnes:  yes I know. that's why I choose no..
[23:18] <EvilMatt> hello
[23:18] <ubuntuyo_> EvilMatt hi...
[23:18] <tenach> Hello EvilMatt
[23:18] <nofilicity> what do I do with a ".1" or "-static" file?
[23:18] <n00b81> EvilMatt: Hi :)
[23:18] <mobi-sheep> darlek: There are guides on that too (only if you knew how to RTFM in first place). :)
[23:18] <terinjokes> bastidrazor: nothing on that page seems to help
[23:18] <EvilMatt> i have a question about ubuntu
[23:18] <xeer> lstarnes:  I have no clue what libraries are in the libglib package, i can't do it manually.
[23:19] <tenach> EvilMatt: ask away
[23:19] <n00b81> EvilMatt, go ahead
[23:19] <lstarnes> xeer: why do you want to remove it?
[23:19] <sebsebseb> !ask  |  EvilMatt
[23:19] <darlek> mobi-sheep, hmm... no packages to install ie: libdvdread4
[23:19] <nofilicity> what do I do with a ".1" or "-static" file? is it executable?
[23:19] <Rabbitbunny> I'm more annoyed by !ask than people asking to ask...
[23:19] <xeer> lstarnes:  not remove, but install an older version of the package. I compiled 2.6 of libglib and it has conflicting symbols in libgio
[23:19] <darlek> mobi-sheep, i'll try synaptic
[23:19] <xeer> lstarnes:  I just want to go from 2.6 back to 2.0
[23:19] <n00b81> I'm more annoyed at ubottu :0
[23:19] <lstarnes> nofilicity: does it have a .so in its name?
[23:20] <EvilMatt> i have the new ubuntu the jackalope one.. and i cant seem to get the "extra visual effects" to work. i even went as far as to go out and buy a new video card and install the drivers for it.. and still nothing
[23:20] <lstarnes> xeer: why would you need to?
[23:20] <nofilicity> no
[23:20] <lstarnes> nofilicity: what's the file's name?
[23:20] <mobi-sheep> darlek: Try "sudo aptitude search libdvdread" and you'll get a list of packages.
[23:20] <xeer> lstarnes:  libgio2.0-0 says there is a undefined symbol: g_thread_gettime
[23:20] <nofilicity> ah, it was an executable.
[23:20] <Rabbitbunny> EvilMatt: enable compiz, tutorials on google.
[23:20] <nofilicity> thanks
[23:20] <xeer> lstarnes:  and it does this with EVERY program almost! I can't even get to my desktop..
[23:21] <ubuntuyo_> is it ATI?
[23:21] <lstarnes> xeer: you probably shouldn't be using that version of glib then
[23:21] <ubuntuyo_> EvilMatt is it ATI?
[23:21] <xeer> lstarnes:  well, that's why I am wanting to go back to 2.0!
[23:21] <vick> Is there an msn messenger for linux in which you can chat while you are appear offline as opposed to amsn ?
[23:21] <EvilMatt> ubuntuyo_: no its a geforce fx5200
[23:22] <terinjokes> bastidrazor: and the force option is depreciated... and the recover option is default
[23:22] <ubuntuyo_> I'm using 8.04 cause my vga is ATI.
[23:22] <lstarnes> xeer: are you using a libgio package from ubuntu's repos?
[23:22] <crazy2be> help, my address bar is gone in firefox!
[23:22] <darlek> mobi-sheep, well, it turns out to already be installed, but it still won't play a reg dvd (I have a Matrix DVD I'm testing with ;) ...  brb more synaptic fun
[23:22] <Rabbitbunny> EvilMatt: I have that card. the install is easy, but be warned. You don't want the titlebareffects.
[23:23] <tenach> EvilMatt: Are you using drivers from the community, or from Nvidia's site?
[23:23] <Rabbitbunny> s/re/r e/
[23:23] <EvilMatt> Rabbitbunny: whys that?
[23:23] <lstarnes> crazy2be: right-click on the toolbar at the top and check "navigation toolbar"
[23:23] <EvilMatt> tenach: im using the driver that it downloaded and installed automatically
[23:23] <Rabbitbunny> EvilMatt: It'll make the title bars go invisible.
[23:23] <EvilMatt> ahh
[23:23] <mobi-sheep> darlek: You restarted your media player, right?
[23:23] <EvilMatt> Rabbitbunny: what driver are you using for it and where did you get it?
[23:24] <ubuntuyo_> EvilMatt I'm using 8.04 cause 9.04 dose not support compiz perfectly. I mean about ATI user.
[23:24] <Rabbitbunny> EvilMatt: nvidia 173, from the repos
[23:24] <crazy2be> lstarnes: what bar?
[23:24] <crazy2be> there is no bar
[23:24] <crazy2be> that's the problem
[23:24] <crazy2be> just a single row of tabs
[23:24] <hilikus> it seems there are 2 dirs to put script to run after connecting to a wireless network: /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d and /etc/network/if-up.d   what is the difference, where should i put my script?
[23:24] <lstarnes> crazy2be: not even the one with the "file" and "edit" menus?
[23:24] <crazy2be> no
[23:24] <darlek> mobi-sheep, yes..  If I could just see the / of the other harddrive, and find a listing of all the programs that were installed on the previous computer, I could then apt-get 'em
[23:24] <Rabbitbunny> EvilMatt: look up nvidia on the website, there's a tutorial
[23:25] <mobi-sheep> !clone | darlek
[23:25] <crazy2be> lstarnes: there never was a "File", etc bar, i hid it with personal menu
[23:25] <crazy2be> and put everything on one bar
[23:25] <crazy2be> the navigation bar
[23:25] <fedorauser162> when it says "wireless-essid EeeAP" and i want to connect to a diff network can i just erase the EeeAP
[23:25] <crazy2be> it was working fine for weeks
[23:25] <crazy2be> now it's just borked
[23:26] <zaccour> no sound in grip, how do i fix it?
[23:26] <darlek> mobi-sheep, unfortunately the other machine is long gone, that's why I have a new laptop ;)  I have the hdd attached by usb, and can read /home files (thankfully) but not root
[23:26] <mobi-sheep> darlek: Ahh. :3
[23:27] <darlek> mobi-sheep, close!
[23:27] <Rabbitbunny> get a drive adapter and boot it.
[23:27] <EvilMatt> is it true that if you install ubuntu hot chicks will like you?
[23:27] <darlek> Rabbitbunny, drive adapter?
[23:27] <Rabbitbunny> EvilMatt: Yes.
[23:27] <EvilMatt> sweet
[23:27] <EvilMatt> im getting a t-shirt that states that then
[23:28] <EvilMatt> :P
[23:28] <Rabbitbunny> darlek: laptop 2.5" to desktop 3.5", on newegg.
[23:28] <Rabbitbunny> EvilMatt: I have a bumper sticker.
[23:29] <mobi-sheep> darlek: I think the problem is that libdvdread4 only can read the unencrypted dvd.  You running 32 or 64 bit?
[23:30] <mobi-sheep> darlek: Did you ran the "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[23:30] <mobi-sheep> " command afer installing libdvdread4
[23:30] <alec> I have a question that probably has a simple answer.  Problem: Once I opened firefox thru terminal as SUDO and now if I try to simply open it via the icon, firefox opens as a dummied down version.  I don't even have ability to click on back & forward buttons.
[23:31] <EvilMatt> how do i exit gnome so i can use the console in ubuntu??
[23:31] <trollaxor> i don't understand the directory structure
[23:31] <mobi-sheep> alec: Why did you open the firefox via terminal?
[23:31] <EvilMatt> it wont let me install the gfx driver unless im in the console
[23:31] <trollaxor> can't it just be like freebsd's?
[23:31] <mobi-sheep> !tty | EvilMatt
[23:31] <alec> mobi:  Honestyl, I don't remember shy.  I think I was testing something.
[23:31] <alec> mobi: shy=why
[23:31] <mobi-sheep> EvilMatt: Remember --> CTRL + ALT + F7 for GUI.
[23:32] <Rabbitbunny> EvilMatt: you need to turn off X, uh... there's a command for it.
[23:32] <ctmjr> EvilMatt: you will also need to kill gdm "sudo killall gdm"
[23:32] <EvilMatt> ahh
[23:32] <EvilMatt> ok
[23:32] <boss_mc> alec: make sure the files in ~/.mozilla are owned by you, not root
[23:32] <alec> boss_mc: Thanks, checking.
[23:33] <darlek> mobi-sheep, nope, the dvd keeps saying 00:00 meaning zero time, so I'll try rebooting from the older harddrive and see if my bios can use usb as the boot media
[23:34] <darlek> mobi-sheep, i'm 32-bit on a 64-bit machine
[23:34] <mobi-sheep> ctmjr: sudo killall gdm -- that worked for you? o.O
[23:34] <darlek> mobi-sheep, i'll try the install.sh script...
[23:34] <mobi-sheep> darlek: Try the command and restart your player.
[23:34] <zaccour> no sound in grip, how do i fix it?
[23:35] <mobi-sheep> ctmjr: On the additional note, I got my bluetooth mouse back.  I don't really know why that happened. :)
[23:35] <alec> boss_mc: Yes, all files/folders in ~/.moziilla are owned by me.
[23:35] <rockne> hello #ubuntu, how would i go about setting my system to automatically accept VNC connection requests from a certain static IP? any help?
[23:35] <trollaxor> MAC is 64-bit
[23:36] <mobi-sheep> alec: ALT+F2 --> firefox -safe-mode    (Test it... then start Firefox again, see if that solved your issue).
[23:36] <boss_mc> alec: hmmmm, and in the sub folders etc I assume...
[23:36] <alec> boss_mc... actually no.  They ARE owned by root.
[23:37] <darlek> mobi-sheep, now it says I do not have permission to open the file.  I'll reboot and be back
[23:37] <boss_mc> alec, there's your problem, google for gksudo vs sudo for why this happened (if you're interested)
[23:37] <alec> boss_mc: as for a fix?  chown?
[23:37] <bastidrazor> !gksudo | alec
[23:37] <rockne> so, anyone got a clue as to how to set up ubunutu to automatically accept VNC connection requests from my other pc at the IP of <IP_ADDRESS>?
[23:37] <boss_mc> alec: yeah
[23:38] <alec> boss_mc: I understand(gksudo) .   trying chown as myusername now.
[23:38] <LordDragon> anyone run ubuntu on a macmini here ?
[23:38] <mobi-sheep> alec: chown -R user:user ~/.mozilla
[23:39] <rockne> automatic remote connection acceptance from <IP_ADDRESS>, what should i do to set this?
[23:39] <aacosta> for some reason
[23:39] <aacosta> vld closes right after i open a file
[23:39] <aacosta> its relly anoying
[23:39] <aacosta> i dont want to use movie player to play music
[23:39] <alec> boss_mc: user:user?
[23:39] <aacosta> i like vlc
[23:39] <cratel> Macbook running Jaunty: won't suspend. When I try to suspend it begins the process but then goes to the login which I would expect to see upon waking up.
[23:40] <boss_mc> alec: username:username (your name)
[23:40] <fat_rat> !enter | aacosta
[23:40] <aacosta> are you using swap?
[23:40] <ctmjr> mobi-sheep: yes after i do the ctrl-alt-f1 it kills gdm,
[23:40] <aacosta> sorry
[23:40] <gartral> why does the sox that comes in the ubuntu distros have the *old* ogg naming scemes/
[23:40] <rockne> No one has any clue as to help me? I'm sure it's simple, I'm just a Linux newbie.
[23:40] <alec> boss_mc: not permitted.
[23:40] <mobi-sheep> ctmjr: Ah.  Interesting.  Although you might want to kill it nicely -- sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop (in the TTY1)
[23:40] <alec> boss_mc: boss_mc
[23:40] <boss_mc> alec: you'll have to sudo the command
[23:41] <alec> dah!
[23:41] <aacosta> vlc just closes after i open a file with it
[23:41] <aacosta> its really werd
[23:41] <mobi-sheep> ctmjr: That'll just turn off the gdm service instead of killing it. :)
[23:41] <boss_mc> aacosta: run it in terminal and look for errors
[23:41] <ctmjr> mobi-sheep: will make a note thanks
[23:41] <deww> rockne: under security, uncheck "you must confirm". you should also make it prompt for a password
[23:42] <alec> boss_mc:  That did it.  Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:42] <person> Hello folks
[23:42] <alec> you guys rock.
[23:42] <deww> rockne: this is under remote desktop preferences
[23:42] <boss_mc> alec: good, glad to hear it!
[23:42] <rockne> thank you. I planned on the password bits. I just wish I could get XRDP working
[23:42] <ubuntuyo_> is it working at skype voice chatting in ubuntu?
[23:42] <ubuntuyo_> well?
[23:42] <aacosta> when i open a file it says
[23:42] <aacosta> Illegal instruction
[23:42] <person> My Acer Aspire One netbook's recording video really badly with Cheese - why might that be? I applied an xorg.conf fix.
[23:42] <rockne> i just use this pc as an htpc, and in general i prefer to not have to mess with my monitor. thanks guys
[23:43] <boss_mc> !pastebin | aacosta: use this to give us the output... --->
[23:43] <ubuntuyo_> there is some noisy when i talked.
[23:43] <aacosta> wasnt multiple lined texted
[23:43] <aacosta> ill brb
[23:44] <boss_mc> ubuntuyo_: the skype pulse output is screwed... you get echoes and other problems...
[23:44] <topramen_> is anyone here familiar with the DBAN hard drive wipe?<<
[23:44] <ubuntuyo_> I see.
[23:44] <rockne> deww: thank you very much, i had missed that option during my configuration prior. Worked like a charm. Now if I could only get XRDP to work properly with gnome! But VNC is great for now. Thanks again #Ubunutu, you guys rock!
[23:45] <boss_mc> ubuntuyo_: unfortunately, due to the closed source nature of skype, dev is fail
[23:45] <topramen_> is anyone here familiar with the DBAN hard drive wipe clean installation/or download?<<
[23:45] <cratel> all the MacBook docs on ubuntu.com say suspend works out of the box. But it doesn't for me. Fresh install. :-(
[23:45] <person> My Acer One's performing pretty slowly generally. I want to do a really safe fix that won't lose my logs or anything... is it okay to mount /tmp and /var/tmp as tmpfs?
[23:46] <boss_mc> topramen_: isn't dd-ing with /dev/random then with /dev/zero enough?
[23:46] <topramen_> I'm not familar with any of those commands?
[23:46] <ozon_> why dos every time i tranfer any files to another disk, it begin good but colser to end it get slower and slower... :/
[23:47] <boss_mc> topramen_: dd is digital copy, /dev/random is a random number generator (a real one, not psuedo)
[23:47] <boss_mc> topramen_: so you write random data to the drive (a few times if you like)
[23:47] <boss_mc> topramen_: then write zeros to it to reset the drive to it's original state
[23:48] <topramen_> boss_mc<<< can you be a bit more specific on that please as in by steps if you dont mind?
[23:48] <boss_mc> topramen_: do you want to wipe a drive or a partition?
[23:49] <topramen_> both on  my laptop
[23:49] <hilikus> can someone help me configure a script execution from NetworkManager based on which network i connected to?
[23:49] <boss_mc> topramen_: so the whole drive?
[23:50] <topramen_> yesss<<<
[23:50] <boss_mc> topramen_: ok, so you're running off another partition or the liveCD yes?
[23:50] <gidna> Hi
[23:50] <gidna> What are the files like reverse.c~? I don't see them but with ls there are some
[23:50] <vi390> hi, How can I install a openVZ kernel , in whcih repo is it included ?
[23:50] <boss_mc> gidna: they are backups that gedit creates
[23:51] <gidna> When Does it create them?
[23:51] <person> Getting a black recording preview in Cheese despite using the Clone option in xorg.conf. What shall I do?
[23:51] <boss_mc> gidna: when you save a file I think, it backs up the old one
[23:51] <Raith1> hey can anyone answer a question for me?
[23:51] <Rabbitbunny> gidna: when you con't save for long enough, or you save. it can be turned off.
[23:51] <topramen_> boss_ms: well what's on my hard drive I want gone and no i did a full installation of kubuntu 9.04 and want to take it off and if i can just do a wipe clean of the hard drive of everything
[23:52] <topramen_> <<<
[23:52] <gidna> I don't have anymore those files...but with ls I can see them
[23:52] <cratel> on my macbook 1,1 jaunty suspend doesn't work. Suspend log shows FATAL: Module battery not found
[23:52] <topramen_> ^^^^
[23:52] <Raith1> I just got a Belkin G Wireless Router. How do I get it working in Ubuntu?
[23:52] <Rabbitbunny> Raith1: Plug it in. It shouldn't need any config.
[23:52] <boss_mc> gidna: they don't appear in nautilus cos they're backup/temp files
[23:53] <Raith1> I plug it in but it won't connect to the internet
[23:53] <Raith1> modem just flashes
[23:53] <gidna> Are the automatically removes by the system?
[23:53] <topramen_> boss_ms: well what's on my hard drive I want gone and no i did a full installation of kubuntu 9.04 and want to take it off and if i can just do a wipe clean of the hard drive of everything
[23:53] <cube> anybody know americas army?
[23:53] <Rabbitbunny> Raith1: can it find your modem? can you see it's http interface?
[23:53] <gidna> *they
[23:53] <vi390> is the OpenVZ routine included in linux-image-virtual
[23:53] <gidna> *them
[23:53] <Raith1> How do I tell if it can find my modem?
[23:53] <Raith1> I assume not since all the other lights are on, sept modem is flashing and internet is out
[23:53] <boss_mc> topramen_: to wipe the drive clean completely, boot into a liveCD
[23:54] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Raith1: Are you on the wired connection?
[23:54] <URUGUAYHOT> HOLA
[23:54] <URUGUAYHOT>  ALGUIEN habla español
[23:54] <Raith1> I had to plug back in to my ethernet card yeah
[23:54] <Rabbitbunny> Raith1: It'll have a light, WAN/Modem/Internet. You'll probably need to consult the http interface. Check the bottom of the unit for an IP, or use <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:54] <boss_mc> !es | URUGUAYHOT
[23:54] <Raith1> the wireless is not plugged in at all right now
[23:54] <phoenix_andthor> OH MY GOD!!!! A CONVERSATION!!!!!
[23:55] <Raith1> Should I need to do a reset on my modem after plugging in the router or no?
[23:55] <marksman> does anyone have experience with running a PBX on ubuntu?  I want to setup a PBX with IVR.
[23:55] <Rabbitbunny> Raith1: No.
[23:55] <phoenix_andthor> After three dead rooms, finally, I am among people again
[23:55] <Raith1> Ok so how do I consult the http interface exactly?
[23:55] <mdg> phoenix_andthor: welcome!
[23:55] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Raith1: http://<IP_ADDRESS> or http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[23:55] <boss_mc> !hi | phoenix_andthor
[23:56] <dalekleader> HELP, i am looking for someone to guide me to how I can setup my nfs server to use fixed ports for all the services?
[23:56] <Raith1> I just type that in a browser after connecting the router you mean?
[23:56] <Raith1> Or where?
[23:56] <Rabbitbunny> Raith1: In your browser, when connected to the router, the link CoJaBo-Aztec gave.
[23:56] <Raith1> ok thanks I'll try that
[23:56] <rsr> hello
[23:56] <phoenix_andthor> hey maksman, if your talking about a router and the like, it should be in the manual what you need to type into your browser
[23:57] <bastidrazor> !nfs | dalekleader
[23:57] <gidna> Can I remove them?
[23:57] <rsr> anyone get geovision working with ubuntu? is it even possible?
[23:57] <Rabbitbunny> gidna: Yes. at any time.
[23:57] <Rabbitbunny> gidna: You'll probably want gedit to stop making them, check it's preferences.
[23:58] <phoenix_andthor> for whoever cares, I'm connected to a 6 mbps access point in my house, but it's only wireless G
[23:58] <phoenix_andthor> hoping to upgrade to N soon
[23:58] <nekostar> ok to start off my hardware and software:
[23:58] <nekostar> os[Linux 2.6.28-13-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "jaunty" 9.04] cpu[4 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 3.35GHz] mem[Physical: 3.4GB, 92.5% free] disk[Total: 463.0GB, 26.6% free] video[nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GT] sound[Audigy2 - Audigy 2 [SB0240]]
[23:58]  * CoJaBo-Aztec will probably wait for N final routers to come out..
[23:58]  * Rabbitbunny will
[23:59] <dalekleader> ubottu: thx, I got that part down, now I am trying to setup my rules in my internal firewall but some of the services are dynamic.  I found Red Hat insrtuctions but cannot seem to translate to ubuntu
[23:59] <nekostar> so the problem is i'm trying to use the nvidia proprietary drivers, and apparently the kernel modules from an old one are stuck in there and so i'm getting a mismatch error
[23:59] <nekostar> anyone know how to manually grab and remove all remaining bits to clean it out so i can correctly do this?
[23:59] <Rabbitbunny> nekostar: maybe modprobe
[23:59] <nekostar> Rabbitbunny, i need to remove some physical files man